[12:05] <liam> bascially if I type start X I get an X session with a mouse pointer which I can move but it lasts say half a second
[12:05] <liam> tehn it quits on me
[12:05] <callie> hmmm i guess you're better off speaking to someone who really knows ATI drivers, i've never even had one before :(
[12:05] <liam> I assuem that it is trying to start kde which failes so tehn it quits
[12:06] <liam> callie: you have nvidia?
[12:06] <callie> liam, yeah
[12:06] <liam> I think the bastard nv drivers got installed when I apt-get upgraded
[12:07] <liam> can you give me the nv driver pacjkage name so that I can have a look
[12:07] <callie> unless you're trying to use them i dont think that will hurt
[12:07] <liam> you're right it shouldn't hurt
[12:08] <liam> (I was part of the DRI project in non-coding psotion a few years back)
[12:08] <liam> man this is kinda embarrasing...
[12:08] <callie> lol
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[12:08] <liam> I make my living by being a *nix admin...
[12:09] <liam> but this has got me stumped
[12:09] <liam> give me a meaningful erorr message please... :-)
[12:11] <jindiaz> hey anyone use k3b for buring here?
[12:11] <apokryphos> yup
[12:11] <callie> yup
[12:11] <jindiaz> do yu guys have issues with the burn speed yu set, and the actual burn speed shown in bottom left while buring?
[12:11] <apokryphos> it is the default burner in KDE/Kubuntu :P
[12:11] <liam> k3b rocks
[12:11] <apokryphos> jindiaz: nope
[12:12] <liam> when you can use get to it ;-)
[12:12] <liam> jindiaz: define issue?
[12:12] <jindiaz> crap....... i having a difference of 20x, and its pissing me off
[12:12] <robertsa> Does anyone know how to disable the GTK-QT theme engine?
[12:12] <liam> so what are you choosing?
[12:12] <liam> adn what are you getting?
[12:12] <jindiaz> well, i set the thing to burn at 40sx, just cause, and it says the actual burn speed is like 16x
[12:13] <apokryphos> I just set to auto
[12:13] <liam> wouldn't stress about that
[12:13] <callie> robertsa, system settings >> appearance
[12:13] <jindiaz> guys.... 16x, wouldnt stressss... that speed is like,,, slow as hell
[12:13] <liam> 40x refers to the max speed your writer can write at i.e. the outer edge of the CD, ath eht inner edge it can only do 24X
[12:13] <liam> then it needs time to spin up...
[12:14] <jindiaz> the thing is, it burns at a steady 16x the whole way
[12:14] <jindiaz> and my max is 52 btw
[12:14] <robertsa> callie: I saw that, but it's not obvious what settings will disable the GTK-QT theme engine
[12:14] <jindiaz> but my other is max at 40, so i need it to be there
[12:14] <liam> teh 40X I was referring to was the numebr you gave above ;-)
[12:15] <jindiaz> lol, well yah, it needs to burn at 40
[12:15] <jindiaz> aight ill try the next one at auto, see how it goes
[12:15] <jindiaz> brb
[12:15] <liam> 24 is mac at the inner edge of the disk - if the disk were spun faster to enable higher write spsed multiple sof 150KB/s it could cause the disc to break...
[12:18] <jindiaz> yo.... wow this is messed, on auto it started burning at 11735597x speed
[12:18] <jindiaz> then it says going to 52x
[12:18] <jindiaz> and STYLL is burning at 16x!!!!!!!!
[12:18] <jindiaz> ARGH!
[12:19] <jindiaz> so any ideas boys?
[12:21] <jindiaz> anyone?
[12:23] <liam> callie: googling on the kdm_greet error throughs up a few links
[12:24] <MachineScrew> Riddell: you here
[12:25] <MachineScrew> any one help Riddell with Kubuntu
[12:25] <MachineScrew> or is he by himself
[12:25] <chavo> he is one of a few
[12:26] <MachineScrew> like a lead dev for kubuntu
[12:26] <chavo> yes
[12:26] <MachineScrew> ok
[12:26] <MachineScrew> but not as many work on kubuntu as Ubuntu right ?
[12:26] <chavo> not quite, but they help when kubuntu needs help
[12:27] <MachineScrew> mind u I am only talking about the UI and backends for the UI
[12:27] <MachineScrew> cool
[12:27] <chavo> there's an excellent interview with riddell here http://behindubuntu.org/interviews/JonathanRiddell/
[12:28] <MachineScrew> fonts look worse in Dapper i need to check if i have antialaisng
[12:28] <MachineScrew> ya I read it
[12:28] <MachineScrew> 12hrs now thats insane
[12:28] <MachineScrew> and dedication
[12:28] <chavo> fonts look awesome here, but I have tweaked my .fonts.conf
[12:28] <MachineScrew> oh
[12:29] <MachineScrew> you using the default font
[12:29] <chavo> bitstream vera sans
[12:30] <MachineScrew> still it dosn't look right in apps
[12:30] <MachineScrew> very jagy
[12:30] <MachineScrew> i didn't have sub pixel hinting
[12:30] <MachineScrew> on
[12:30] <MachineScrew> but I turned it on
[12:31] <MachineScrew> as well I am doing an update for 207 pkgs
[12:31] <MachineScrew> so maybe things improve
[12:32] <MachineScrew> I like kubuntu
[12:32] <MachineScrew> and Adept has come a long way
[12:32] <chavo> MachineScrew, http://2sdw.com/konvi.png
[12:33] <MachineScrew> ok mine dosn't look like that
[12:34] <chavo> MachineScrew, here's my .fonts.conf http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/663918
[12:34] <jindiaz> soooo no one on the k3b issue huh?
[12:35] <chavo> jindiaz, it could be the cds?
[12:36] <MachineScrew> chavo: http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c383/satempler/konvimacscrw.png
[12:36] <jindiaz> uhhh no, they are all 52x
[12:36] <chavo> MachineScrew, yeah looks pretty jaggy there
[12:37] <MachineScrew> where do I put this
[12:37] <chavo> put it in your home directory
[12:37] <MachineScrew> ok and if I want it global
[12:37] <chavo> ~/.fonts.conf
[12:38] <MachineScrew> would that be in /etc somthing
[12:38] <chavo> in /etc/fonts/local.conf
[12:39] <MachineScrew> ok
[12:40] <MachineScrew> thanks
[12:40] <chavo> no problem
[12:42] <MachineScrew> much better
[12:42] <MachineScrew> damn
[12:42] <MachineScrew> you need to hand that file to Riddell lol
[12:46] <chavo> yeah the fonts look awesome, way better than any other OS :)
[12:48] <djk_> chavo: and fonts have what to do with an OS?
[12:48] <jindiaz> anyone in here on an nvidia vid card and uses the nvidia console and nvidia tv options in here????
[12:49] <Nomad411> What do people use for PDFs, I find I have to use Acrobat reader, the other readers just give me a hard time, is that right?
[12:49] <chavo> it's not the fonts it's the rendering
[12:49] <djk_> Nomad411: kghostview
[12:51] <jindiaz> no one is on nvidia vid cards!?  no wayyyy...
[12:51] <djk_> chavo: and what does the rendering have to do with an OS?
[12:52] <chavo> well they have different font renderers
[12:52] <chavo> and the setup I'm using now renders the bitstream vera sans font better than the others do, in my eyes
[12:52] <chavo> why you writing a book? go to google.com
[12:53] <djk_> ?
[12:53] <chavo> http://google.com
[12:53] <djk_> really.
[12:54] <chavo> yeah it's great source of information
[12:54] <chavo> well not really a source, but an index
[12:54] <djk_> maybe you should go there and find out what does the rendering and what does not (hint: the OS does not)
[12:55] <chavo> djk_, maybe you should get out of your basement and get some sun
[12:55] <jindiaz> argh.. neone with an nvidia 6600gt card??
[12:55] <jindiaz> ne one
[12:55] <djk_> lol
[12:55] <jindiaz> ?
[12:55] <chavo> jindiaz, yes i have that card
[12:55] <jindiaz> REALLY!?
[12:55] <jindiaz> NICEEEEEEEE
[12:55] <jindiaz> ok maybe yu can help me out here
[12:56] <jindiaz> do yu use the console for using your card and the tv console?
[12:56] <chavo> no tv out here
[12:56] <jindiaz> lol, ok well the console then
[12:56] <jindiaz> like, when yu search nvidia in adept, the two last options are for the console, and tv options
[12:57] <jindiaz> i think yu have to have everything enabled though
[12:57] <djk_> chavo: you do realize that you are agreeing to the fact that you know shit, don't you?
[12:57] <jindiaz> but yah, so yu can change the resolutions, see the temperasture, etc etc
[12:57] <jindiaz> chavo: did yu insatll that???
[12:58] <chavo> djk_, I was simplifying for the person I was talking too at the time.
[12:58] <Poprocks> hey all, does kubuntu have a KDE frontend to sudo that it uses?
[12:58] <chavo> I don't care what you think I know or don't know.
[12:58] <chavo> Poprocks, kdesu
[12:59] <jindiaz> ok, chavo and djk_ fight later...  chavo plzzzzzzzzz help me on this one
[12:59] <chavo> I could know absolutely nothing but that doesn't take away my right to talk and express myself.
[12:59] <jindiaz> lol
[12:59] <Poprocks> chavo: isn't that just for su though, and not sudo?
[01:00] <jindiaz> no kdesu is sudo as well
[01:00] <djk_> chavo: i don't think you don't know. it's obvious you don't. maybe you should get out of the sun, into your basement and learn something ;)
[01:00] <MachineScrew> djk_: the OS dosn't its part Xorg and Part KDE
[01:00] <chavo> Poprocks, it's been modified to work with sudo and kubuntu
[01:00] <jindiaz> well im pretty shure it is, cause ive done it befroe needing sudo and it worked
[01:00] <djk_> MachineScrew: no shit sherlock.
[01:00] <MachineScrew> and both those are spacific to Linux
[01:00] <MachineScrew> and other unix
[01:00] <Poprocks> chavo: ok thanks
[01:01] <MachineScrew> there for it can be said that the fonts on Linux look better thant other OS's
[01:01] <chavo> His mom didn't bake him cookies today so he needs to lash out.
[01:01] <djk_> MachineScrew: no it can't be said.
[01:01] <jindiaz> god damn it, chavo stop fighting with them!  tell me!!!!!!!!
[01:01] <jindiaz> hahahahaha
[01:01] <chavo> jindiaz, sorry hold on a sec
[01:01] <MachineScrew> djk_: so don't give people shit for not being spacific
[01:02] <MachineScrew> djk_: and yes it can be said that way because most new users don't look at linux in parts like we do
[01:02] <chavo> djk_, I was just celebrating the fact that the fonts look great on Linux.
[01:02] <djk_> MachineScrew: specific. and I wasn't.
[01:03] <jindiaz> chavo: SWEET!  thanks man.  the thing is i REALLY need to get that console up.  cause yah ive tried editing it thru x, and it wlaway reverts back to whatever it wants on restart
[01:03] <chavo> For a long time font rendering on Linux was horrible.
[01:03] <MachineScrew> djk_: and yes you where
[01:03] <jindiaz> and the thing is, im using a widescreen 19inch lcd, so yah, this is like very much so needed
[01:04] <MachineScrew>  <djk_> chavo: i don't think you don't know. it's obvious you don't. maybe you should get out of the sun, into your basement and learn something ;)
[01:04] <chavo> jindiaz, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to do.
[01:04] <MachineScrew> thats giving peotple shi
[01:04] <MachineScrew> t
[01:04] <MachineScrew> damn
[01:04] <MachineScrew> it
[01:04] <MachineScrew> I am having a bad typeing day
[01:05] <chavo> Well I'm in a shit giving mood today anyway, so I'm not trying to be mean.
[01:05] <MachineScrew> added to that I can't spell worth a damn
[01:05] <djk_> MachineScrew: were. and nice. maybe you might copy the chavos part before that as well, thus realizing I was replying.
[01:05] <chavo> I'm just a very sarcastic person.
[01:06] <MachineScrew> djk_: look I am not into a pissing contest here
[01:06] <jindiaz> ummmm ok, when seraching in adept, search for "nvidia"  the two last options are consoles yu can use to monitor temperature and adjust the setting of your nvidia card.  and the other is for tv.  have yu installed these????
[01:06] <djk_> MachineScrew: then leave your package where it belongs.
[01:07] <jindiaz> maybeeeeee MachineScrew and djk_ could help?????
[01:07] <jindiaz> lol
[01:07] <chavo> jindiaz, nvidia-settings?
[01:08] <liam> callie: cheers and thanks man
[01:08] <MachineScrew> djk_: I have long conversations with my girlfriend about being too damned specific and correcting me on every thing it was a genralization get off it if some one had a specific problem with the fonts that needed to know if it was kde or X then thats another story but we all know what he was talking about
[01:08] <liam> I"m going to try xdm instead of kdm...
[01:08] <jindiaz> YES!!!!!!!!!  and the other is nvtv
[01:08] <jindiaz> chavo: do yu have them installed!?
[01:08] <jindiaz> erm, the first one anyways?
[01:08] <chavo> Sometimes in conversation, getting to specific can be bad. Especially when you're typing sucks.
[01:09] <djk_> MachineScrew: I'm glad your relationship with your girlfriend is going well.
[01:09] <chavo> I have nvidia-settings
[01:09] <MachineScrew> djk_: yep thanks its going great
[01:09] <jindiaz> ok ok cool, mine is installed, but i cannot for the life of me find, where is it on your pc?
[01:09] <jindiaz> chavo: ok ok cool, mine is installed, but i cannot for the life of me find, where is it on your pc?
[01:10] <MachineScrew> bought her a game the other day
[01:10] <chavo> just run it from the command line or run box - nvidia-settings
[01:10] <MachineScrew> and she comes to the lug with we on her own I don't drag her loves linux and would run Kubuntu if her system is faster
[01:11] <jindiaz> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[01:11] <jindiaz> IC!!!!!!!!
[01:11] <jindiaz> thanks man!
[01:11] <jindiaz> and omg these setting SUC
[01:11] <jindiaz> lol
[01:11] <jindiaz> where is everything else!?
[01:12] <MachineScrew> the is the girl of my dreams djk_
[01:12] <djk_> as long as you don't wake up it's all just swell, isn't it
[01:12] <MachineScrew> djk_: you don't get it do you
[01:12] <jindiaz> argh... well that was pointless....
[01:13] <chavo> oops running nvidia-settings took out xorg, be careful
[01:13] <MachineScrew> djk_: now you are dicking with me get the hell out of this chat if you are going to be that way
[01:19] <djk_> MachineScrew: not a friend of figure of speech I see. maybe you are the one who doesn't "get it", get it?
[01:19] <MachineScrew> well yes a friend but not a fan
[01:29] <DoctorDyna> *sigh*
[01:46] <stodge> What extra repos do I add for Kubuntu Breezy?
[01:46] <stodge> Or what's the link to the sources?
[01:47] <stodge> !info msttcorefonts
[01:47] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[01:49] <slow-motion> n8
[02:02] <salguero> hola
[02:02] <elijahlofgren> salguero: howdy
[02:02] <salguero> q tal
[02:02] <jindiaz> anyone using aMsn here?
[02:03] <salguero> I not speak englis
[02:03] <jindiaz> or rather, more importantly, how do i use a linux-installer.bin?
[02:03] <elijahlofgren> salguero: Mexico? Try #ubuntu-mx
[02:04] <salguero> I speke spanies
[02:04] <salguero>  espaa
[02:04] <elijahlofgren> salguero:  Try
[02:04] <elijahlofgren> #ubuntu-es
[02:04] <elijahlofgren>  #kubuntu-es
[02:04] <salguero> kubuntu 5.10
[02:05] <salguero> -es
[02:05] <salguero> iI use amsn
[02:06] <salguero> were your from?
[02:06] <elijahlofgren> salguero: Try joining the Ubuntu Spanish channel. Type: /join #ubuntu-es
[02:06] <salguero> zens
[02:08] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: Are you trying to just install amsn?
[02:08] <salguero> yes
[02:08] <salguero> were your from ?
[02:08] <jindiaz> ysh
[02:08] <jindiaz> erm, yah
[02:09] <jindiaz> the adept one is out of date
[02:09] <jindiaz> and need to upgrade,
[02:09] <jindiaz> so dled the new version,
[02:09] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: What version are you trying to install?
[02:09] <jindiaz> im assuming installer would be easiest
[02:09] <jindiaz> 0.95
[02:10] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: You could upgrade to Dapper Drake. It has amsn 0.95. See: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/x11/amsn
[02:10] <jindiaz> uhhh nooo, thats not really an option at this time
[02:10] <karl> dude the .bin use it like this
[02:10] <karl> open a shell
[02:10] <karl> and type
[02:10] <karl> sudo chmod +x blabla.bin
[02:11] <karl> so u give execution permission to it
[02:11] <karl> and then just type
[02:11] <karl> ./blabla.bin
[02:11] <karl> and that's it
[02:11] <jindiaz> really!?
[02:11] <jindiaz> swank....
[02:11] <jindiaz> ok one sec
[02:12] <salguero> jump/ kubuntu-es
[02:12] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: I would use a deb if I could though to make upgrading and uninstalling easier. Amsn has an Ubuntu package. Download here: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/amsn/amsn_0.95-3.ubuntu.deb
[02:13] <salguero> zenk your good bye
[02:14] <jindiaz> i dont knoe how to install .deb files
[02:15] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: It's easy: sudo dpkg -i nameof-file.deb
[02:15] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: Or right click on it in Konqueror and choose "install package"
[02:16] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: Actually it's "Right Click on package file -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package"
[02:16] <jindiaz> yah, tried that, found it out, which is sweet way fo doing it, but it didnt work
[02:16] <jindiaz> lol
[02:17] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: What didn't work?
[02:18] <jindiaz> it says in bothe termianl and conquered,r stauts is locked by another program
[02:18] <qalimas> Is there a way to remaster the Kubuntu live cd?
[02:18] <jindiaz> errrrrrrrrm
[02:18] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: Just close adept if you have it open.
[02:18] <jindiaz> status database area is locked by another process
[02:18] <jindiaz> frig....
[02:18] <jindiaz> lol
[02:18] <jindiaz> forgot abt that
[02:19] <jindiaz> ok looks like it worked
[02:19] <jindiaz> one sec
[02:19] <callie> anyone know how to reset my 'account in KDE so it goes back to the default apperance?
[02:19] <qalimas> Is there a guide to making a live cd from a customized Kubuntu 5.10 install?
[02:20] <jindiaz> yah it installed aight
[02:20] <jindiaz> hey one question
[02:21] <elijahlofgren> callie: What appearances do you want reset? colors, titles, every KDE config?
[02:21] <jindiaz> yu knoe how after yu install from adept, and to get into that app yu have to run it through the command prompt to pull it up, how do yu create shortcuts?
[02:21] <callie> elijahlofgren, the whole thing
[02:22] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: On the desktop: "Right click -> Choose "Create New -> Link to Application"
[02:22] <jindiaz> omg, the font looks absoloutely horrible...
[02:22] <elijahlofgren> callie: You could delete your ~/.kde folder but I would just rename it and then log in and out.
[02:22] <callie> elijahlofgren, thanks
[02:23] <elijahlofgren> callie: You're welcome.
[02:24] <jindiaz> elijahlofgren: when doing the shortcut, where would the app be?  apparently i have to map it out here
[02:25] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: I would click on the "Application" tab and put "amsn" in the "Command:" blank
[02:26] <jindiaz> elijahlofgren: lol, yah i did that, but i styll cant click ok
[02:27] <jindiaz> oooooooooo
[02:27] <jindiaz> omg, nvm....
[02:27] <jindiaz> i didnt give it a title, thats why
[02:27] <jindiaz> hahaha
[02:27] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: Ok, lol. :)
[02:28] <jindiaz> o new, all shortcuts look like that?  how do yu modify the icon?
[02:30] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: Right click on the icon and choose "Properties". Now click on the icon next to the title
[02:30] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: You should then be shown a list of icons to choose from.
[02:42] <neoncode> Are their any gudes on seting up a TV-in card?
[02:43] <jindiaz> elijahlofgren: cool, thanks man.  sry had a phone call there
[02:48] <elijahlofgren> neoncode: Maybe these will help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=155584&highlight=tv+card and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106713&highlight=tv+card
[02:49] <elijahlofgren> neoncode: Maybe this also: http://www.google.com/search?q=+site:www.ubuntuforums.org+tv+card
[02:51] <Draeven> can anyone tell me why every time I try to enable my wireless nic in Dapper, it immediately disables?  Its a BCM4318 and the kernel module is loaded
[02:52] <elijahlofgren> Draeven: how are you enabling it?
[02:52] <Draeven> thru network configuration in system settins
[02:53] <elijahlofgren> maybe try: sudo ifup wlan0 (or whatever the name of the interface is)
[02:54] <MachineScrew> yay I repoted my first bug
[02:54] <Draeven> I get this error when I do that: Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1.
[02:55] <neoncode> elijahlofgren: Thank you
[02:55] <MachineScrew> Draeven: do sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[02:55] <MachineScrew> that is where your problem exists
[02:56] <Draeven> it's not listed in there - so configure it from there?
[02:56] <MachineScrew> so is it a wlan0 or eth0
[02:56] <Draeven> no, my wired SiS900 is eth0
[02:56] <MachineScrew> ok and the wireless is eth1 or wlan0
[02:57] <Draeven> then just /etc/init.d/network restart?
[02:58] <MachineScrew> Draeven: when you configure it through the gui you have to hit apply before activating
[02:58] <MachineScrew> but ya
[02:59] <MachineScrew> Draeven: hows it workn'
[02:59] <Draeven> it's not
[03:00] <MachineScrew> ok
[03:00] <MachineScrew> one sec
[03:01] <MachineScrew> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/664147 copy and paste from auto ath1 to the end change ath1 to eth1 and change the ssid
[03:02] <MachineScrew> if you have not configured the ethernet card then it shouldn't be in there
[03:02] <MachineScrew> then sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[03:03] <Draeven> I think it's a matter of it trying to use the kernel driver instead of ndiswrapper
[03:03] <Draeven> I found an article in the forums - going thru it right new
[03:03] <Draeven> now
[03:03] <MachineScrew> ok
[03:03] <MachineScrew> and you shure the kernel driver works
[03:03] <MachineScrew> light come on
[03:04] <MachineScrew> or messages about the device pop up in /var/log/messages
[03:05] <MachineScrew> if not you can use the same config file for ndiswrapper just change it to wlan0
[03:08] <MachineScrew> Draeven: so whats happening
[03:10] <MachineScrew> Chris_Tucker: liked you in Rush Hour ;)
[03:10] <patrix> hey all
[03:10] <patrix> I can't login with KDM since about 2 weeks
[03:10] <patrix> the only clue I have is my .xsession-errors saying
[03:10] <patrix> No profile for user 'patrix' found
[03:10] <Chris_Tucker> MachineScrew, er, well email my other personality... im not black
[03:11] <MachineScrew> ok
[03:11] <Chris_Tucker> i need to change my user@host to say nottheactor@whatever
[03:11] <MachineScrew> lol
[03:11] <MachineScrew> do /nick nottheactor
[03:11] <Chris_Tucker> MachineScrew, er, not what i meant
[03:12] <Chris_Tucker> <-- my real name, im not obsessed with the actor, its my literal real name
[03:12] <MachineScrew> right i got ya
[03:12] <MachineScrew> I was joking
[03:13] <MachineScrew> first it would be realy wierd that guy using a computer much less linux
[03:13] <MachineScrew> troy: LMAO
[03:14] <elijahlofgren> :( I wish people would stay around longer after asking their questions. I had probably just found the fix for patrix's problem.
[03:14] <MachineScrew> whats relly funny my lug leader has a son named Joshua
[03:15] <MachineScrew> nm
[03:15] <MachineScrew> Chris_Tucker: you want a gmail invite
[03:16] <Ze_M> where is possible to bwrose for kubuntu official specs?
[03:17] <Chris_Tucker> MachineScrew, i have about 300 already, i think i can manage ;)
[03:17] <elijahlofgren> Ze_M: What kind of specs?
[03:17] <MachineScrew> ok
[03:17] <Ze_M> elijahlofgren: what kind of specs? are there severall?!
[03:17] <MachineScrew> Ze_M: what do you meen
[03:18] <Ze_M> spec files
[03:18] <Ze_M> how do you do a rpm withpout a spec?!
[03:18] <MachineScrew> Ze_M: ubuntu dosn't have spec files
[03:18] <Ze_M> ubuntu doesnt have rpms?
[03:18] <elijahlofgren> Ze_M: Ah, are you wanting to make Kubuntu packages?
[03:18] <MachineScrew> Ze_M: no they use debian packages
[03:18] <elijahlofgren> Ze_M: It uses "debs" instead.
[03:19] <Ze_M> i thought kubuntu and ubuntu used rpms
[03:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> Nope. :)
[03:19] <Ze_M> ok
[03:19] <MachineScrew> Ze_M: no it would be slower package management
[03:19] <Ze_M> MachineScrew: dont see how
[03:19] <MachineScrew> yum and YaST take too much time
[03:20] <elijahlofgren> Ze_M: No, Ubuntu is based of Debian so it uses "debs" like Debian does. Other distros like Red Hat etc. use rpms.
[03:20] <MachineScrew> apt-get and synaptic are much faster
[03:20] <Ze_M> what that have to do witu yum and yast?
[03:20] <jindiaz> hey elijahlofgren yu styll here?
[03:20] <MachineScrew> yum and yast are the rpm based package managers
[03:21] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: yes
[03:21] <Ze_M> MachineScrew: really? ehehhehe
[03:21] <MachineScrew> yep
[03:21] <jindiaz> elijahlofgren: cool, got a question, where are the system sounds stored?
[03:21] <Ze_M> well i see that i have wrong all these years eheheheh
[03:21] <jindiaz> yu seem to knoe this stuff, so figure id just get straight answers
[03:21] <MachineScrew> Ze_M: so what dose the spec file do that you need now
[03:21] <jindiaz> trying to configure everything
[03:22] <MachineScrew> Ze_M: may be I can find an equivalent
[03:22] <Ze_M> MachineScrew: u still have along way to go
[03:22] <Ze_M> well nite all
[03:22] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: looks like here: /usr/share/sounds/
[03:23] <jindiaz> niceeeeeeeee perfect, thanks man
[03:24] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: You're welcome. :)
[03:28] <jindiaz> elijahlofgren: yu cant copy sound files into that folder??? whut gives?
[03:29] <fernando_> hi I have installed Dapper, looks excellent! But how can I install Azureus?
[03:30] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: It's owned by root. You can either chown it to be owned by you or copy things into it using "sudo cp somesonds.wav /usr/share/sounds"
[03:30] <troy> or use konqueror in super-user mode
[03:31] <salguero> hola
[03:31] <jindiaz> hmmmm... ok, how do i use konquere in sudo?
[03:32] <Ferdinand98324> hi there
[03:32] <elijahlofgren> fernando_: Check out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=144546
[03:32] <Ferdinand98324> I was looking in google, but I don't know...where's located the "cache" where the files are stored when I'm using the "adept" for downloading new packages ??
[03:33] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: sudo konqueror
[03:33] <elijahlofgren> Ferdinand98324: In /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:33] <Ferdinand98324> thanks elijah
[03:33] <fernando_> elijahlofgren: thanx, I'll start now
[03:33] <Ferdinand98324> gotta check it
[03:34] <elijahlofgren> fernando_: And instead of "gedit" use "kate". ;)
[03:34] <nrdb> I was wondering if anyone knowns if it is posible to get a Cannon i850 printer to work under Linux?
[03:34] <fernando_> ok
[03:35] <Ferdinand98324> or nano
[03:35] <elijahlofgren> nrdb: Googling it now....
[03:36] <elijahlofgren> nrdb: Looks like it is. Check out http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=+site:www.ubuntuforums.org+Canon+i850+linux
[03:39] <nrdb> elijahlofgren: certainly looks like it will work, picked up what looks like a good printer someone was thowing out, looks like all that was wrong with it is it had a small piece of papper jammed in it. :)
[03:39] <elijahlofgren> nrdb: LOL, cool. :)
[03:40] <jindiaz> elijahlofgren: hmmm, how do i access my files when using sudo konquere????
[03:41] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: Go to /home/yourusername ;)
[03:44] <jindiaz> elijahlofgren: ahhhhhhhh ic ic, ok now it worked
[03:44] <jindiaz> :)
[03:45] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: Cool. Glad it did.
[03:58] <jindiaz> hey guys where are the logs of these convos stored again??
[03:58] <jindiaz> need to ref on fdisk procedure form one of them
[03:58] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: Are you using Konversation?
[03:58] <jindiaz> yah man
[03:58] <fernando_> i like dapper a lot, VLC is much much better with the qt look
[03:58] <jindiaz> i remebr it was somewhere easy, like usr or sumthyn
[03:59] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: Here: /home/elijahlofgren/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs/
[03:59] <elijahlofgren> Opps. I meant ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs/
[03:59] <jindiaz> lol, ok maybe not... hahahahah
[03:59] <jindiaz> cool, thanks man
[04:00] <elijahlofgren> fernando_: Yeah, with Dapper they have gtk2-engines-gtk-qt installed by default.
[04:00] <elijahlofgren> jindiaz: You're welcome.
[04:00] <fernando_> and Firefox is fast now, not like in breezy, and updated xD
[04:00] <elijahlofgren> fernando_: Yeah, that's one of the reasons I switched to Dapper early.
[04:01] <fernando_> and the music app Listen is cool too
[04:02] <elijahlofgren> fernando_: I've never heard of "Listen".
[04:02] <fernando_> elijjahlofgren: download it, it's great, like amaroK but stable
[04:03] <fernando_> you can read lyrics and Wiki and a stuff
[04:03] <fernando_> my amaroK here in Dapper is not working, don't know why
[04:04] <elijahlofgren> fernando_: Checking it out now... http://listengnome.free.fr/
[04:05] <fernando_> elijahlofgren: cool, try it, I think you'll like it
[04:06] <elijahlofgren> fernando_: Looks cool. I'll may try it out if I ever start listening to music on the computer. Thanks for telling me about it.
[04:06] <jindiaz> ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs/
[04:06] <fernando_> elijahlofgren: no problem
[04:42] <ExcaliBer> Hi
[04:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> hello
[04:43] <ExcaliBer> When i finish installin the kde for ubuntu do i have to create a user name?
[04:43] <ExcaliBer> or use the ubuntu one?
[04:43] <ExcaliBer> to login?
[04:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> Use the ubuntu one
[04:43] <ExcaliBer> oh ok
[04:43] <ExcaliBer> thank you
[04:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> NP
[04:43] <ExcaliBer> cause im installing the kde
[04:43] <ExcaliBer> is it sweet?
[04:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yes. :P
[04:43] <ExcaliBer> can you change the resolution?
[04:43] <elijahlofgren> ExcaliBer: I like it better than Gnome. :)
[04:43] <ExcaliBer> to 1024x768?
[04:44] <ExcaliBer> cool
[04:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> ExcaliBer: I'd imagine. I've not actually had to change my resolution though
[04:44] <elijahlofgren> ExcaliBer: You're wanting to lower it right?
[04:44] <ExcaliBer> i have a 800x600 lcd monitor
[04:44] <ExcaliBer> in ubuntu it looks nice and small
[04:44] <robotgeek> ExcaliBer, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:44] <ExcaliBer> like 1024x768
[04:45] <ExcaliBer> is that for kubuntu terminal or ubuntu?
[04:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> Both
[04:45] <robotgeek> ExcaliBer: both ubuntu and kubuntu use the same base system, only differ in desktop environments
[04:46] <ExcaliBer> so what does the command do?
[04:46] <ExcaliBer> changes the resolution?
[04:46] <ExcaliBer> lowers it?
[04:46] <ExcaliBer> so how do i make kde work?
[04:47] <ExcaliBer> i finished installing it just now
[04:47] <ExcaliBer> just log off?
[04:47] <ExcaliBer> and log back on?
[04:47] <elijahlofgren> ExcaliBer: You log out and the choose "KDE" for you login session from the login menu.
[04:47] <ExcaliBer> oh ok
[04:47] <ExcaliBer> i brb
[04:48] <Ferdinand98324> I'm having a problem upgrading from KDE 3.4.3 to KDE 3.5.X
[04:48] <Ferdinand98324> I had downloaded all the required files for 3.5.2 but I get a "broke" error
[04:48] <Ferdinand98324> with a required file, so, I deleted all the cache
[04:49] <Ferdinand98324> I mean .../apt/archive
[04:49] <thompa> how do i check cpu temp or see lmsensors?
[04:49] <elijahlofgren> Ferdinand98324: Are you on breezy or dapper? What is the exact error you are getting?
[04:49] <Ferdinand98324> but now when I run adept I get an error
[04:49] <Ferdinand98324> breezy
[04:49] <robotgeek> Ferdinand98324: mimetype error?
[04:49] <Ferdinand98324> nope, I think is because I delete manually all the files..
[04:50] <Ferdinand98324> "there was ab error downloading updates"
[04:50] <ExcaliBer> hey
[04:50] <ExcaliBer> im on kde
[04:50] <ExcaliBer> its gorgeus
[04:50] <thompa> o got kde system guard showing temp.
[04:50] <robotgeek> Ferdinand98324: hmm, try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in a terminal
[04:51] <elijahlofgren> ExcaliBer: I agree.
[04:51] <ExcaliBer> is it still debian?
[04:51] <thompa> it says acpi thrm: temperature.
[04:51] <ExcaliBer> or rpm?
[04:51] <thompa> is that cpu?
[04:51] <thompa> yes
[04:51] <elijahlofgren> ExcaliBer: sorta. It uses Debs like Debian. But Ubuntu changes some configs and things.
[04:51] <robotgeek> ExcaliBer: yes, still debian based
[04:51] <thompa> its apt-get
[04:51] <ExcaliBer> cool
[04:51] <ExcaliBer> i love it
[04:52] <ExcaliBer> its better than ubuntu
[04:52] <ExcaliBer> well i think it is
[04:52] <Ferdinand98324> root@cyrus:~# sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:52] <Ferdinand98324> E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.
[04:52] <ExcaliBer> to me it is
[04:52] <cge> How do I set up konqueror to use my home directory as the desktop? Symbolic links (Desktop -> /home/$USER) don't appear to work as they do in GNOME.
[04:52] <thompa> gnome is real nice, but im just used to kde from years ago
[04:52] <thompa> where is ksensors?
[04:52] <elijahlofgren> Ferdinand98324: try sudo mkdir  /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
[04:52] <robotgeek> Ferdinand98324: hmm, you deleted the directory manually?
[04:52] <Ferdinand98324> yup
[04:53] <Ferdinand98324> can I send those red messages without registration ;) ?
[04:53] <Ferdinand98324> robotgeek, yup
[04:53] <ExcaliBer> how do i learn almost everything about kubuntu?
[04:53] <ExcaliBer> like all the thing si need to learn?
[04:53] <cge> Ferdinand98324: yes, just create the directory again. I've done that before.
[04:53] <ExcaliBer> i know alot about ubuntu so far
[04:53] <thompa> are you running stable or dapper?
[04:53] <ExcaliBer> me?
[04:53] <thompa> yes
[04:53] <ExcaliBer> i dont know
[04:53] <Ferdinand98324> cge, done
[04:54] <ExcaliBer> does this have sound?
[04:54] <ExcaliBer> kde?
[04:54] <robotgeek> ExcaliBer: sure, try System Settings -> Sound
[04:54] <elijahlofgren> ExcaliBer: for learning maybe check out http://www.kubuntu.org/documentation.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu
[04:54] <yuriy> Excalibur: if you already know how to use ubuntu, you're all set. just think the same thing, but prettier an more useable and more configurable
[04:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> ExcaliBer: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ http://www.kubuntuforums.org/ irc://irc.freenode.net/kubuntu http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html
[04:54] <Ferdinand98324> ok
[04:54] <Ferdinand98324> elija...
[04:54] <robotgeek> ExcaliBer: breezy/dapper?
[04:54] <Ferdinand98324> i have a big file
[04:54] <ExcaliBer> lol thanks yuriy
[04:55] <thompa> or try putting a cd in
[04:55] <Ferdinand98324> how can I show u that?
[04:55] <ExcaliBer> what do you mean robot?
[04:55] <robotgeek> ExcaliBer: if you don't know, you are probably running breezy (v 5.10)
[04:55] <elijahlofgren> ExcaliBer: Also check out http://www.google.com/search?q=kubuntu+tips
[04:55] <Ferdinand98324> Err ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de breezy/main Packages
[04:55] <Ferdinand98324>   Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file.  '
[04:55] <Ferdinand98324> Fetched 380B in 5s (68B/s)
[04:55] <Ferdinand98324> Failed to fetch ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/3.5.1/kubuntu/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file.  '
[04:55] <Ferdinand98324> Reading package lists... Done
[04:55] <thompa> im running the sort of preview of the next release
[04:55] <Ferdinand98324> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[04:55] <Ferdinand98324> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[04:56] <ExcaliBer> wtd?
[04:56] <Ferdinand98324> (sorry)
[04:56] <ExcaliBer> No problem.=D
[04:56] <robotgeek> Ferdinand98324: please do read the topic.
[04:56] <thompa> mailny because of special hardware i have to run dapper,
[04:56] <Ferdinand98324> sorry
[04:56] <robotgeek> Ferdinand98324, don't paste in here. Please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:56] <ExcaliBer> how do i test my sound?
[04:56] <elijahlofgren> Ferdinand98324: If I were you I'd use KDE 3.5.2 instead of 3.5.1 see: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php
[04:57] <ExcaliBer> sound system?
[04:57] <thompa> put something in
[04:57] <Ferdinand98324> elija
[04:57] <thompa> or look olwer right for kmixer
[04:57] <Ferdinand98324> I was trying to upgrade from those repositories
[04:57] <Ferdinand98324> but...I get an error
[04:57] <elijahlofgren> ExcaliBer: Go to "K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound and Multimedia -> Click "Test sound" button.
[04:57] <Ferdinand98324> about a broke link
[04:57] <ExcaliBer> Ok the sound works
[04:58] <ExcaliBer> Yeah i figure out things fast.
[04:58] <ExcaliBer> = )
[04:58] <Ferdinand98324> do I need to upgrade to 3.5.1 before 3.5.2?
[04:58] <robotgeek> Ferdinand98324: nope
[04:58] <Ferdinand98324> or can I pass from 3.4.3 to 3.5.2 under breezy?
[04:58] <elijahlofgren> Ferdinand98324: No. I would try the http://kubuntu.org/ mirror instead of the ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de one.
[04:59] <Ferdinand98324> let me put all the files once again in the archives dir
[04:59] <Ferdinand98324> I have 700 MB aprox. but one file is corrupt
[04:59] <Ferdinand98324> give me a sec
[04:59] <Ferdinand98324> please
[05:02] <Ferdinand98324> I used that server and ftp.kde.org/pub/stable/3.5.2
[05:02] <ExcaliBer> "i felt the hate rise up in me"
[05:03] <ExcaliBer> "kneel down and clear the stone of leaves"
[05:03] <elijahlofgren> Ferdinand98324: I don't think you should put that. It should be like "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde352 breezy main" in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:03] <ExcaliBer> "i wonder out where you can't see"
[05:03] <ExcaliBer> "inside my shell i wait and bleed"
[05:03] <ExcaliBer> lol
[05:03] <ExcaliBer> I like slipknot.
[05:04] <elijahlofgren> Goodnight all. Goodbye.
[05:04] <ExcaliBer> Goodnight
[05:04] <ExcaliBer> i wonder why aim never wants ti work on wine
[05:04] <ExcaliBer> im testing it out
[05:05] <Ferdinand98324> Elijah, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12416
[05:05] <Ferdinand98324> panic
[05:05] <Ferdinand98324> elijah left
[05:05] <ExcaliBer> hey i just need a little help with the totem movie player
[05:06] <ExcaliBer> this is the error i get
[05:06] <ExcaliBer> Totem could not play 'file:///home/suspect/Desktop/wait.rm'.
[05:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ferdinand98324: Did you add the jriddell key
[05:07] <ExcaliBer> Thanks robotgeek
[05:07] <Ferdinand98324> nope
[05:07] <Ferdinand98324> Cheese, how can I do that?
[05:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> That's the problem.
[05:07] <Ferdinand98324> is that important?
[05:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yes
[05:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[05:07] <CheeseBurgerMan>  sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[05:07] <Ferdinand98324> I got the .deb packages without that but I get some broke bug...
[05:08] <Ferdinand98324> I'm doing that..
[05:08] <Ferdinand98324> gpg: can't open `kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg': No such file or directory
[05:08] <Ferdinand98324> so...
[05:08] <Ferdinand98324> where should be that file?
[05:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> It should be wherever you download it to. (probably ~)
[05:09] <ExcaliBer> What file?
[05:09] <ExcaliBer> Hey the video still doesn't work
[05:10] <robotgeek> ExcaliBer: do you have kaffeine-xine installed?
[05:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> Pherdinand: Did you download it?
[05:10] <ExcaliBer> Media Player (Kaffeine)?
[05:11] <robotgeek> ExcaliBer: please "sudo apt-get install kaffeine-xine"
[05:11] <ExcaliBer> Thank you.
[05:11] <Pherdinand> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[05:11] <Pherdinand> I got that message
[05:12] <ExcaliBer> Ok it finished installing
[05:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> Pherdinand: OK, now try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:12] <ExcaliBer> robotgeek: It finished downloading now how do i open it
[05:12] <ExcaliBer> ?
[05:13] <robotgeek> ExcaliBer: try playing the video
[05:13] <fernando> just one question: where can I find the bookmarks .xml file for Konqueror?
[05:13] <ExcaliBer> I still can't play it.
[05:14] <Pherdinand> I got this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12417
[05:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> fernando: ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror
[05:14] <ExcaliBer> there is no sound in gaim right?
[05:15] <ExcaliBer> Do any of you guys have sound on gaim?
[05:15] <fernando> CheeseBurgerMan: thanx man
[05:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> Pherdinand: I don't see any errors. :\
[05:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> Just that it's not installing
[05:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> fernando: you're welcome.
[05:15] <Pherdinand> well...but when I try to update from adept
[05:15] <ExcaliBer> CheeseBurgerMan: DO you ahve sound on your gaim?
[05:15] <Pherdinand> I got the message "Nothing to update"
[05:15] <ExcaliBer> have*
[05:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> ExcaliBer: I haven't used Gaim for awhile
[05:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> And I tend to turn off all system sounds anyway
[05:16] <ExcaliBer> but do you have sound?
[05:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> So no, I don't in Gaim
[05:16] <ExcaliBer> oh
[05:16] <ExcaliBer> me either
[05:16] <robotgeek> ExcaliBer: so you installed w32codecs, and kaffeine-xine and your video file (rm) doesn't play?
[05:16] <ExcaliBer> No.
[05:16] <Pherdinand> I mean "Update Complete, Good Bye"...I get no options to upgrade my kde
[05:16] <ExcaliBer> I don't know about the w32codecs
[05:16] <Pherdinand> and of course, I'm still running 3.4.2
[05:17] <Pherdinand> *3.4.3
[05:17] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell ExcaliBer about w32codecs
[05:17] <ExcaliBer> i already ahve the latest version
[05:18] <robotgeek> ExcaliBer: okay, what error does it give you again on playing?
[05:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> Pherdinand: I'm not exactly sure what's wrong - I don't see any error messages to give me a clue as to what's  wrong.
[05:18] <ExcaliBer> hold on
[05:18] <ExcaliBer> Totem could not play 'file:///home/suspect/Desktop/wait.rm'.
[05:19] <ExcaliBer> Thats the error.
[05:19] <Pherdinand> CheeseBurgerMan...under adept I got Status: upgradable when I click I got Action: BREAK (upgrade) in red
[05:19] <Pherdinand> I know that some dependencies are wrong
[05:19] <Pherdinand> where is stores the information about the Candidate version showed in "Adept"?
[05:20] <Pherdinand> *stored
[05:20] <Pherdinand> **show
[05:20] <Pherdinand> well..
[05:20] <Pherdinand> here's my sad history..
[05:20] <Pherdinand> I didn't know about the autentication file
[05:20] <Pherdinand> now, thanks, I know
[05:20] <Pherdinand> but..
[05:20] <robotgeek> ExcaliBer: hmm, totem? "sudo apt-get install totem-xine"
[05:22] <Pherdinand> before I was downloading all the updates, after that I got some error with a file called libsomething(i'll find)...so that file was a dependency not found in the server (I guess)
[05:23] <ExcaliBer> Ok now it works.
[05:23] <ExcaliBer> Thank you.
[05:23] <Pherdinand> so I moved all the files in the cache "archives" because when I entered to the adept I always get the message to update to 3.5.2, I deleted the files to not see 3.5.2 anymore, I thought that adept was reading the files in "archives" because it had the information about 3.5.2 even if i change the repository servers to 3.5.1
[05:24] <Pherdinand> (learning english ;) )
[05:24] <Pherdinand> so........
[05:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> You're english is fine. I just don't know how to fix the problem.
[05:24] <Pherdinand> adept is reading 3.5.2 from i don't know where...if I run aptitude..?
[05:25] <robotgeek> Pherdinand: what is your problem again?
[05:26] <Pherdinand> I have a dependency problem upgrading from KDE 3.4.3 to 3.5.2
[05:27] <robotgeek> Pherdinand: okay, type "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[05:27] <Pherdinand> so, when I run that command I got this...
[05:27] <Pherdinand> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12417
[05:27] <Pherdinand> there's no error, but also there's no update to my KDE
[05:28] <Pherdinand> I mean, nothing happens
[05:29] <robotgeek> Pherdinand: hmm, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade also doesn't work?
[05:30] <Pherdinand> nope
[05:30] <Pherdinand> I got the same message
[05:30] <Pherdinand> "The following packages have been kept back:"
[05:30] <Pherdinand> and the list...
[05:30] <Pherdinand> before that everything seems OK
[05:31] <Pherdinand> before that "nothing happens" I was getting a dependecy error
[05:32] <Pherdinand> but I just can see that error if I use aptitude
[05:32] <robotgeek> Pherdinand: also try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[05:32] <robotgeek> i don't have any other ideas :(
[05:33] <Pherdinand> if there any problem if I use aptitude?
[05:33] <Pherdinand> just to check dependencies
[05:33] <Pherdinand> or there's any command to check kde-base dependencies?
[05:34] <robotgeek> Pherdinand: apt-cache depends kdebase
[05:35] <Pherdinand>  Conflicts: <kdebase-libs><---this is not good, am I right?
[05:36] <Pherdinand> I mean, that could be part of the weird prob
[05:37] <robotgeek> Pherdinand: not sure, sorry
[05:37] <burepe> Please help me fix this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161391
[05:40] <Pherdinand> thanks
[05:40] <Pherdinand> I'll try reading about dependencies
[05:43] <Pherdinand> robotgeek, there's any way to see only BROKEN dependencies?
[05:44] <robotgeek> Pherdinand: if something is broken, apt will tell you.
[05:45] <Pherdinand> I don't have ksnapshopt, does ubuntu includes something else
[05:45] <Pherdinand> just to post my screen shot
[05:45] <noiesmo> Pherdinand, anything happen whe nyu push print screen key on keyboard
[05:47] <Pherdinand> forget it, really I don't have any graphical proggie here
[05:56] <Pherdinand> well
[05:57] <Pherdinand> robotgeek, are you still there?
[05:57] <Pherdinand> I found the error...
[05:57] <Pherdinand> under aptitude I got a window that show:
[05:57] <Pherdinand> "kdelibs4c2 are not satisfied"
[05:58] <Pherdinand> those libraries that i don't have are libavahi-client1 >= 0.5.2
[05:58] <noiesmo> Pherdinand, sorry about that are you running xgl
[05:59] <Pherdinand> I'm not
[06:06] <robotgeek> Pherdinand: hmm, back.
[06:06] <robotgeek> Pherdinand: try sudo apt-get -f install kdelibs4c2
[06:09] <Pherdinand> robotgeek, it says that I need some dependencies
[06:09] <Pherdinand> so...i wrote the same
[06:10] <PaloDeQueso> Let's say I share a folder on windows and make it writable, how do I do this exact same thing in linux where anyone can read and write to a share?
[06:11] <Pherdinand> robot, I got this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12420
[06:11] <Pherdinand> please not that I invented the package.ubuntu.com repository in a desperate attempt to get the required file
[06:11] <Pherdinand> *note
[06:12] <robotgeek_away> Pherdinand: can you paste your sources.list too
[06:12] <chavo> sounds like a problem with your sources.list
[06:14] <Pherdinand> robotgeek, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12421
[06:14] <Pherdinand> yup
[06:14] <Pherdinand> I invented a server, but I got two warnings
[06:16] <Pherdinand> # fer commented servers are servers by default, just to avoid a foreign update, but i don't know if that is causing the prob
[06:16] <chavo> Pherdinand, waht's this -> deb ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.5.2/kubuntu breezy main
[06:16] <chavo> a mirror of the other one?
[06:16] <Pherdinand> a repository?
[06:16] <Pherdinand> yup
[06:16] <Pherdinand> I'm desperate
[06:16] <Pherdinand> trying with different servers
[06:16] <Pherdinand> as you can see, a lot of commented ones
[06:17] <Pherdinand> E: Package libavahi-client1 has no installation candidate
[06:17] <chavo> well the first one has breezy misspelled
[06:17] <Pherdinand> I can't get the file
[06:17] <Pherdinand> which one?
[06:17] <Pherdinand> got it
[06:17] <Pherdinand> the packages
[06:18] <matt_> Hi, I'm new to kubuntu, but been using gentoo for a few years.  Is anyone able to help getting mp3 previews working in konqueror?
[06:18] <burepe> xawtv says "stick you settings in the config file ($HOME/.xawtv)" but what exactly do I put in it?
[06:19] <chavo> Pherdinand, have you tried commenting out the cdrom and uncommenting the remote servers, you might need something from there
[06:19] <Pherdinand> well I have no cdrom in the drive, I'll try doing that
[06:19] <Pherdinand> thanks..
[06:19] <Pherdinand> give me a sec
[06:19] <chavo> you might need something from backports, but I don't know. I'm running dapper here
[06:21] <Pherdinand> :(
[06:22] <Pherdinand> chavo, i got this
[06:22] <Pherdinand> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12422
[06:23] <chavo> did you apt-get update?
[06:25] <Pherdinand> E: Couldn't find package libavahi-client
[06:25] <Pherdinand> yup, but
[06:26] <chavo> now try dist-upgrade
[06:27] <matt_> Hi, I'm new to kubuntu, but been using gentoo for a few years.  Is anyone able to help getting mp3 previews working in konqueror?
[06:27] <Pherdinand> E: Package libavahi-client1 has no installation candidate
[06:28] <chavo> Pherdinand, I  have  libavahi-client3
[06:29] <Pherdinand> chavo, I got this....useless packages http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12423
[06:30] <chavo> do you have kubuntu-desktop installed?
[06:30] <DeadS0ul> matt_: mp3 previews..
[06:30] <DeadS0ul> matt_: view->preview->soundfiles
[06:31] <DeadS0ul> matt_: and you have to have mp3 packages installed
[06:31] <matt_> DeadS0ul: yep, got that - ogg and wav work.  I've got mpg321 and mpeglib installed
[06:31] <matt_> DeadS0ul: mp3's play fine in amarok, mplayer etc etc
[06:31] <DeadS0ul> what bout libarts-mpeglib
[06:32] <matt_> DeadS0ul: yep, got that.
[06:32] <DeadS0ul> just installed?
[06:32] <matt_> DeadS0ul: yep.  Just restarting sound server now.  See what happens.
[06:33] <DeadS0ul> matt_: maybe a full kde logout/login might help so that kde loads those libs properly.
[06:34] <chavo> it's working for me matt_ , but I'm on dapper
[06:34] <matt_> Restarting the sound server did it.
[06:34] <chavo> cool
[06:34] <DeadS0ul> woo hoo
[06:34] <matt_> Thanks for the help guys.  I'm really enjoying kubuntu.  It's very nice.
[06:34] <DeadS0ul> same here
[06:34] <chavo> anytime
[06:35] <DeadS0ul> I just got up running yesterday haah
[06:36] <matt_> DeadS0ul: same.  It feels odd getting an install up and running in an hour after a few years with gentoo.
[06:36] <_Ferdinand932432> I'm back
[06:42] <matt_> While we're on konqueror and audio, is anyone able to get the audiocd service working?
[07:08] <johnshaft> Hi. Just installed kubuntu-desktop. Having a strange problem
[07:08] <johnshaft> No borders around the windows. Can't close / minimize, etc
[07:08] <johnshaft> Gnome is fine
[07:09] <johnshaft> Any ideas?
[07:11] <Pherdinand> did you change the window properties?
[07:12] <johnshaft> I tried but nothing seemed to happen. I couldn't get to the apply button because it was off the bottom of the screen and since there is no border I can't move the window :(
[07:13] <wobotgeek> johnshaft: alt + f2 , kwin
[07:18] <johnshaft> What does kwin do?
[07:19] <johnshaft> wobotgeek: I'll try logging in to KDE now and try kwin
[07:49] <acai> anyone home?
[07:50] <acai> i'd like some repositories with more software, possibly non-free software.
[07:52] <robotgeek> !sources.list
[07:52] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:55] <burepe> I was just setting up xaw tv after installing my tv tuner and then the screen went black in xawtv. I can't change it back. I can hear the tv but there is no video. Any suggestions?
[08:07] <NewbieBoy> hi guys
[08:09] <robotgeek> hey NewbieBoy
[08:09] <margouyab> hi NewbieBoy
[08:12] <Den> Hi - Firestarter or Kmyfirewall for a simple powerful firewall?
[08:13] <robotgeek> Den: i think both are interfaces to the same kernel firewall
[08:13] <Den> robotgeek: The pkg sizes are 2 & 4 MB
[08:13] <Den> robotgeek: oops - no 2MB each
[08:14] <Den> robotgeek: Maype that was in Dapper
[08:14] <Den> robotgeek: what do you use?
[08:14] <margouyab> they are gui for easily modify iptables
[08:14] <margouyab> I use firestarter
[08:14] <Den> Hobbsee: Firewall u use?
[08:15] <Den> margouyab: fires better than kmy..?
[08:15] <margouyab> i don't know
[08:15] <Den> Thanks everyone :) margouyab robotgeek
[08:16] <margouyab> but firestarter already gives 100% of protecton (i test my config on sygate)
[08:17] <robotgeek> Den: i don't use a firewall
[08:17] <margouyab> Den: you're wellcome
[08:17] <Den> margouyab: what is sygate?
[08:19] <Hobbsee> Den: ah, guarddog
[08:20] <Den> Hobbsee: why guarddog, not firestarter or kmyfirewall?
[08:20] <Hobbsee> firestarter didnt behave, havent tried kmyfirewall
[08:20] <margouyab> Den: a website where you can test your protection
[08:21] <margouyab> http://scan.sygatetech.com/
[08:21] <kubuntutaotao> today my kde reinstalled,how i install scim?my kubuntu is flight-6
[08:22] <robotgeek> kubuntutaotao: do you have language pack installed?
[08:22] <margouyab> kubuntutaotao: synapticqs?
[08:22] <kubuntutaotao> my language is chinese
[08:23] <kubuntutaotao> wait,i try it out
[08:23] <robotgeek> kubuntutaotao: hmm, skim should be in your system tray
[08:23] <burepe> I lost my tvtuner video signal, the sound is fine. Is this a driver problem? The video just disappeared
[08:25] <kubuntutaotao> robotgeek:ho ho.thank,i forgot about thing of scim.i try it out.
[08:25] <NewbieBoy> guys, how do i set up a vpn connection? i need to connect to our ofc in europe thru vpn.
[08:37] <NewbieBoy> what is a shell? is it the terminal also?
[08:37] <robotgeek> !cli
[08:37] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[08:37] <Hobbsee> NewbieBoy: yes
[08:37] <NewbieBoy> ty
[09:07] <burepe> Help! http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=929375#post929375
[09:09] <margouyab> burepe: sorry i don't know nothing about tvtuner
[09:09] <burepe> thanks though... it is doing my head in. I had it working finally and then it just disappeared
[09:17] <cfraz89> hi
[09:17] <margouyab> hi
[09:17] <cfraz89> i am having a wierd problem
[09:17] <cfraz89> http://www.netbank.commbank.com.au/netbank
[09:17] <cfraz89> does not load in konqueror
[09:18] <cfraz89> i thought it might have something to do with crypto
[09:18] <cfraz89> it used to btw
[09:19] <margouyab> er i opened the page and i don't see any problem
[09:22] <cfraz89> hmmm
[09:22] <cfraz89> it doesnt work for me
[09:23] <cfraz89> says cant connect to www3,netbank.com.au
[09:24] <cfraz89> An error occurred while loading http://www.netbank.commbank.com.au/netbank/:
[09:24] <cfraz89> Could not connect to host www3.netbank.commbank.com.au.
[09:33] <margouyab> sorry can't help ^^;
[09:33] <cfraz89> np
[09:33] <cfraz89> thanks anyway :)
[09:33] <margouyab> i have to go ciao
[09:35] <Hobbsee> cfraz89: ah yes, i see.  kde3.5.2?
[09:36] <cfraz89> yes
[09:37] <Hobbsee> wonder if it's 'a kde 3.5.2 bug - that's opening for me in firefox, but not konq
[09:37] <cfraz89> exactly
[09:56] <mvv> i am trying to find the system paths for kmyfirewall ( http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/525/kmyfirewallsystempaths6hn.jpg ) Anyone with a idea?
[09:57] <Hobbsee> mvv: locate iptables?
[09:57] <Hobbsee> and then find it that way?
[09:57] <Hobbsee> but you cant select your distro?
[10:00] <mvv> Hobbsee: i found iptables and modprobe with locate already, but init and runlevel are mysterious. (no i can only select LSB distribution, Gentoo and Slackware)
[10:00] <Hobbsee> i'd say those last two are right...
[10:00] <Hobbsee> not sure about the last one, but the 3rd one is okay
[10:01] <mvv> ah only one left then  :)
[10:02] <Hobbsee> mvv: looks like runlevels must be /sbin/runlevel
[10:03] <mvv> yeah i has the same ideahought that too,
[10:03] <mvv> crap
[10:03] <mvv> i had the same idea, but it's not a directory
[10:04] <Hobbsee> hmm..
[10:05] <mvv> Hobbsee: i'll google some more intensive for that
[10:05] <Hobbsee> mvv: yeah, i think you'll have to...
[10:05] <Hobbsee> sorry about not knowing teh answer
[10:05] <mvv> Hobbsee: thanks for your time and help :)
[10:05] <Hobbsee> not a problem
[10:30] <mvv> Hobbsee: got it, in /etc/inittab i could find the default runlevel "id:2:initdefault:". The directory was /etc/rc2.d :)
[10:30] <Hobbsee> ah :)
[10:31] <me2win[sleep] > Hobbsee: if I plug in an IDE HD, do I need to restart in order to mount it?
[10:31] <Hobbsee> me2win[sleep] : depends if it's seen in "sudo fdisk -l" or not
[10:32] <me2win[sleep] > Hobbsee: i see i see
[10:38] <jpatrick> http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3370/2500/1600/GNULinux.jpg <- smart
[10:45] <mvv> nice, i've such one of the filesystem (if i can find it here...)
[10:48] <mvv> http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2105/linuxfilestructure7tj.jpg <- filesystem
[10:49] <jpatrick> cool
[10:51] <mpathy> Hi There..
[10:51] <Hobbsee_away> hi
[10:51] <jpatrick> hi
[10:51] <mpathy> How I could get rid of those "simplified" :( Konqueror configuration used in Kubuntu? And go back to the KDE defaults?
[10:52] <mpathy> They are really fine for newbies to KDE etc. but for me they only slow down my productivity..
[10:57] <mpathy> Someone got an idea?
[10:58] <Hobbsee_away> mpathy: maybe remove konquerorrc?
[10:59] <Hobbsee|BrainDea> grrr...
[11:00] <mpathy> hmm.. I found a package installed called kubuntu-default-settings, if I remove it, I wont go back to defaults I believe?!? or will I?
[11:00] <Hobbsee> hmm...probably worth keeping the cloak...
[11:00] <Hobbsee> mpathy: it will, yes...but it will remove all of the other defaults too
[11:00] <Hobbsee> i'd remove ~.kde/share/apps/config/konquerorrc
[11:00] <Hobbsee> and then restart konq
[11:06] <nico8481> hi
[11:06] <jpatrick> mpathy: www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror
[11:07] <mpathy> jpatrick: Oh! Thanks. I will put that in our LoCo Wiki ;)
[11:09] <nrdb> Hi I am trying to get gnome-meeting to run but I am not getting any audio, I am getting an error message "The selected audio device (Default) was successfully opened but it is impossible to read data from this device. Please check your audio setup"
[11:09] <jpatrick> mpathy: welcome :)
[11:13] <menno> hi. i installed Kubuntu and later Fedora4. Now i cannot got to Kubuntu anymore
[11:14] <menno> Can somebody help me please?
[11:14] <mpathy> jpatrick: Nothing happened! I using dapper is it a different there?
[11:14] <jpatrick> restarted KDE? (just to make sure)
[11:15] <mpathy> jpatrick: No! I forgot *g* brb ;)
[11:15] <virnik> hi there
[11:15] <virnik> gotta problem with valknut compilation
[11:15] <virnik> dclib compiled and installed in /usr/include/dclib
[11:16] <virnik> and my problem is, that configure of valknut itself says that i gotta wrong path in configure --with-libdc=/usr/local/include/dclib
[11:16] <virnik> but  i got the path right
[11:19] <menno> i can not enter Kubunt
[11:20] <mendred> hi does anyone know how to make usb hard drives load into specific folders?
[11:20] <virnik> mendred: why?
[11:21] <mendred> see i have a usb hard disk where i store some stuff
[11:21] <mendred> and i have symlinks
[11:21] <mendred> to that in my home folder
[11:21] <virnik> ah
[11:21] <mendred> so if hotplug changes the folder
[11:21] <virnik> and problem is?
[11:21] <mendred> because of
[11:21] <mendred> another usb stick
[11:21] <mendred> or something
[11:21] <mendred> my symlinks go for a toss
[11:21] <virnik> yeah, your homedir gonna fall
[11:22] <virnik> heh, why u got that symlinked?
[11:22] <mendred> i just want to create folders based on volume label
[11:22] <mendred> virnik: what do u then suggest?
[11:22] <virnik> so, if u got another USB plug , and usb disk pluged still on, there shall be no problem at all
[11:22] <virnik> just modify your fstab
[11:22] <virnik> modify your fstab
[11:23] <mendred> virnik: no entries in fstab
[11:23] <virnik> make your usb disk normally mounted as homedir
[11:23] <mendred> virnik: hotplug doesn't make entry in fstab
[11:23] <virnik> and then connect another usb stick or wheteawer
[11:23] <virnik> i know
[11:23] <virnik> i didnt meant hotplug
[11:23] <mendred> virnik: k
[11:23] <virnik> if you wanna use that fucked usb disk as a home dir, make changes in fstab
[11:24] <mendred> virnik: heh its not fucked its got 200 gb
[11:24] <virnik> lol
[11:24] <mendred> virnik: i have a laptop with a 30 gb hdd
[11:24] <virnik> every devices like that is fucked :-)
[11:24] <virnik> i see
[11:25] <jpatrick> "aptitude -v moo"
[11:25] <mendred> virnik: its a normal ide hdd which i have converted to usb
[11:25] <virnik> i know
[11:25] <virnik> by using trans case for hdd
[11:25] <mendred> virnik: yup
[11:25] <virnik> i made some time ago the same
[11:25] <virnik> i only suggest you to use fstab instead of hotplug
[11:26] <virnik> hotplug changes everytime devices indexes, when u connect another device
[11:26] <mendred> virnik: how do i get hotplug to ignore this?
[11:26] <virnik> FU*KED Kubuntu...damn....valknut cant be compiled....
[11:26] <virnik> shit
[11:26] <jpatrick> virnik: maybe it's your fault
[11:26] <virnik> heh, i got experiences with every distro i found, but kubuntu and ubuntu is the worst
[11:27] <virnik> jpatrick: count on it...IT IS MY FAULT...sure...but it is hard to say where i am doing something wrong
[11:27] <mendred> virnik: is there any way to make hotplug load usb devices into folders named after the volume of the partition?
[11:27] <thoreauputic> !info valnut
[11:27] <virnik> its first distro i have seen where sshd isnt installed by default...etc
[11:28] <mendred> virnik: cause that would solve my issue nicely
[11:28] <thoreauputic> !info valknut
[11:28] <ubotu> valknut: (graphical client for Direct Connect), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.3.7-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 863 kB, Installed size: 3044 kB
[11:28] <thoreauputic> valknut is right there in universe
[11:28] <jpatrick> virnik: I don't think that the includes are meant to be in /usr/local/include/dclib
[11:28] <virnik> thoreauputic: what? it is in binary for kubuntu? shit, i must be damned lame...i didnt looked in apt repo
[11:29] <virnik> jpatrick: it is default...
[11:29] <thoreauputic> virnik: First rule of Ubuntu/Kubuntu ---> apt-cache search <keyword>
[11:29] <ph8> hey guys, does anyone know how/if I can burn .mds images with k3b?
[11:29] <virnik> when you install dclib from compilation withou --prefix= specified
[11:29] <jpatrick> virnik: I always thought it was /usr/include/dclib
[11:29] <jpatrick> exactly
[11:29] <virnik> thoreauputic: i am not lame at all like you think...may be i love fedora, but in fedora, i used to use apt too
[11:30] <thoreauputic> I didn't say you were lame :)
[11:30] <virnik> so leave this tips for someone else...i am just something like distracted
[11:30] <thoreauputic> virnik: I just pointed you to a solution
[11:31] <thoreauputic> virnik: oh, I see - I give you an answer and you throw it back in my face - nice
[11:31] <thoreauputic> !coc
[11:31] <virnik> jpatrick: ee, wrong. i say that they have compiled here
[11:31] <ubotu> well, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[11:31] <virnik> thoreauputic: hey, it wasnt meant like that, sorry
[11:31] <thoreauputic> OK
[11:31] <virnik> u know, sometimes you r solvng problem too long, and then you will be somelike pissed off
[11:31] <thoreauputic> sure
[11:33] <mendred> ah ok i found this guide for using udev...that should take care of this
[11:33] <virnik> i dont know why, but i used to compile progrs my self...sometimes it solve more problems then it cause
[11:34] <virnik> hey, is it normal in ubuntu/kubuntu that normal default runlevel is no 2?
[11:34] <virnik> hmm
[11:34] <virnik> nevermind, changed back to 56
[11:34] <virnik> nevermind, changed back to 5
[11:46] <mpath1> jpatrick: Doesnt work! :(
[11:47] <jpatrick> mpath1: :(
[11:47] <jpatrick> must be for Breezy only
[11:52] <ph8> hey guys, does anyone know how/if I can burn .mds images with k3b?
[11:55] <mvv> ph8: nope, mds is alcohol proprietary format
[11:57] <Tonio_> why don't people simply use iso format ?
[11:57] <Tonio_> mvv: doesn't it sound stupid so many cd image formats exists............... ??
[11:58] <Tonio_> nero, for example, doesn't support ripping in ISO nowadays.... what a shame
[12:00] <mvv> Tonio_: most people don't think about that, the companies only use that to get proprietary marketshare
[12:00] <Tonio_> mvv: I (of course) know that...
[12:01] <Tonio_> mvv: but that goes against users ability to use a computer simply
[12:01] <Tonio_> that's fuckin' stupid
[12:01] <mvv> Tonio_ : yeah but iso has his problems with audio AFAIK
[12:01] <Tonio_> mvv: not iso in byte to byte mode
[12:01] <mvv> Tonio: totally agree, but the users aren't aware of that
[12:02] <mvv> Tonio_: i dunno much about it, i just read it from the kiso website some months ago ;)
[12:03] <Tonio_> mvv: to what I know, all cd images formats have the same problems and work the same way
[12:04] <Tonio_> generally, burning an unsupported cd image is possible by simply changing the extension.......
[12:04] <Tonio_> sounds weird but that's it
[12:05] <mvv> Tonio_: the problem is that file sharing users mostly use these stupid formats, and then find out it's proprietary when it's too late
[12:05] <mvv> Tonio_: no with nero nrg it's different
[12:05] <Tonio_> nrg is specific yes, that's the only one to what I know
[12:06] <Tonio_> img, iso and bin foir example are almost the same
[12:06] <mvv> track-at-onces nrg image you can easily rename to iso, disc-at-one not
[12:07] <mvv> dunno why, but that's what i found out
[12:07] <Tonio_> all of that makes me shit........
[12:07] <Tonio_> iso is nice and really sufficient......
[12:08] <mvv> yeah it splits the whole thing, useless, it delivers them money :(
[12:10] <mvv> is there a good comparison between nrg, img, iso and bin?
[12:11] <mvv> like a good website that lists the differences
[12:12] <jpatrick> maybe wikipedia..
[12:18] <Tonio_> mvv: here is it ;) good comparative :
[12:18] <Tonio_> nrg sucks | img sucks | bin sucks | mds sucks | iso rocking !!
[12:18] <Tonio_> that's fine to me ;)
[12:19] <mvv> lol
[12:27] <marcus> hi all
[12:27] <marcus> I wonder if someone can help
[12:27] <marcus> I recently installed dapper, after enjoying breezy
[12:28] <marcus> all seems just great, really exciting, but opps, no sound
[12:28] <Hobbsee> !sound
[12:28] <ubotu> I guess sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[12:28] <marcus> seems something needs setting up
[12:28] <Hobbsee> marcus: check in kmix, that all the faders are turned up full, and that they all shine green
[12:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Hobbsee
[12:28] <Hobbsee> hi Kamping_Kaiser
[12:46] <nrdb> I am trying to get gnome-meeting to work with kubuntu, it wont use the audio correctly, any suggestions please?
[12:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> nrdb, can you be more specific
[12:51] <nrdb> Kamping_Kaiser: when trying to setup gnome-meeting, I click on the 'test settings' after selecting all default and I get "Impossible to open the selected audio device (Ensoniq AudioPCI) for playing. Please check your audio setup, the permissions and that the device is not busy."
[12:51] <nrdb> Kamping_Kaiser: I have checked I am in the 'audio' group.
[12:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> nrdb, i'm afraid i dont have gnome-meeting here (dapper had ekiga), or i would check the settings for you
[12:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> but if you can try using /dev/dsp directly
[12:55] <nrdb> Kamping_Kaiser: when doing the setup I get the choice of (ALSA/QuickNet) I chose ALSA, then (Ensoniq AudioPCI/default) I chose Ensoniq.. then clicked 'Test Settings'.
[12:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> nrdb, have you tried mixing the settings around to test it a bit?
[12:57] <nrdb> Kamping_Kaiser: yes.  I can't seem to find anything that works.
[12:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> damn. do you have alsa installed?
[12:58] <nrdb> Kamping_Kaiser: no problem with other programs Xine/Kaffine/KDE
[12:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> nrdb, those are kde native. iirc they use a different sound daemon
[12:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> not esd, but i cant remember what its called
[01:00] <nrdb> Kamping_Kaiser: alsaplayer works!
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm then alsa's there
[01:01] <nrdb> Kamping_Kaiser: do you know if gnome-meeting will work better with something else?
[01:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> nrdb, i have no idea. i havent used it for ages
[01:02] <nrdb> Kamping_Kaiser: do you know what to install to get OSS?
[01:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> no. tbh, i dont think yoru going to find me a lot of use for this problem
[01:05] <nrdb> Kamping_Kaiser: ok thanks for trying.
[01:06] <Hobbsee> nrdb: i thought OSS was already installed...
[01:07] <nrdb> Hobbsee: do you know how to test?
[01:07] <Hobbsee> nrdb: system settings, sound and multimedia, change teh engine to OSS, test sound?
[01:07] <Hobbsee> hit apply between OSS and test sound...
[01:12] <burepe> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=929416#post929416
[01:13] <burepe> Help, my working tv tuner card lost video. Now I have sound and a black screen, More info here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=929416#post929416
[01:16] <nrdb> Hobbsee: I told the 'system settings' to use OSS and gnome-metting to use 'ALSA' and things worked :) ????
[01:16] <Hobbsee> hmmm?  did they work?
[01:17] <nrdb> Hobbsee: yes I don't know why.
[01:17] <Hobbsee> weird.
[01:19] <nrdb> Hobbsee: now I can connect between computer on my LAN. :)
[01:19] <Hobbsee> nrdb: yay :D
[01:19] <marcus> thank you Hobbsee , all is wel now with my sound, regards and take care :-)
[01:20] <Hobbsee> :)
[01:21] <marcus> b4n :-)
[01:27] <nuky> hi, i'm using opera (web browser) in kubuntu 5.10, how can i set the irc links to open in konversation instead of opera's own irc plug-in?
[01:35] <mvv> nuky: probably not, opera wants you to use opera for that ;(
[01:35] <slow-motion> hallo
[01:35] <danytu> ouai !
[01:36] <mvv> nuky: you'd better use konqueror or firefox ;)
[01:36] <danytu> les deux stp !
[01:37] <danytu> i like more firefox
[01:37] <zambba> firefox keeps crashing
[01:37] <zambba> with linux and with windows
[01:37] <danytu> linux please
[01:39] <nuky> mw thanks.. i didn't think there was a setting.. was just checking..
[01:39] <nuky> thanks
[01:46] <uniq> nuky, use konversationircprotocolhandler
[01:46] <uniq> gah.. to late.
[01:46] <jenda> Hey there folks. I have a Czech friend who uses Kmail and has this problem: Kmail always tries to save passwords at shutdown, and he has to give it permissions - if he doesn't go through with all that, the PC won't power down.
[01:51] <jenda> That is... it wants to save them to a file and asks if it can every time...
[01:51] <jenda> He has turned off password manager.
[02:02] <uniq> jenda: it does that because saving passwords to textfiles is insecure. using kwallet (the password manager) is strongly recommended.
[02:02] <jenda> OK
[02:03] <jenda> And is there a way to prevent it from saving them altogether?
[02:03] <jenda> or _not_ to ask every time?
[02:08] <uniq> jenda: uncheck the save password box in the account settings.
[02:37] <foobar> hi there
[02:37] <paulvolk> Hi
[02:37] <foobar> umm, simple question: how do I unpack some .tar.gz to a given folder? something like tar -xvzf archive.tar.gz /path/to/destination
[02:37] <foobar> I can't find that in the info
[02:38] <Hobbsee> !+compile
[02:38] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[02:38] <paulvolk> ok, I have tried to compile packedges but I can't because I don't have xorg dev. So I tried searching the repositories but I couldn't find it. Now I can't compile and install anything with out it. Where could I find it?
[02:39] <Hobbsee> foobar: tar -zvxf file.tar.gz
[02:39] <Hobbsee> xorg dev?
[02:39] <foobar> but that extracts the archive to the current folder, doesnt it?
[02:39] <Hobbsee> foobar: man tar...
[02:40] <Hobbsee> paulvolk: i'd try if it means xlibs-dev
[02:40] <sorush20> hi guys
[02:41] <sorush20> I wanted to find out why I can't view the side panel to kontact when I click on the korganiser application icons next to the wastebin?
[02:43] <foobar> Hobbsee: --directory is what I was looking for, thanks! (I allways searched in "info tar" but couldn't find it there)
[02:43] <Hobbsee> ah, that's it...
[02:45] <sorush20> the korganiser daemon next to the waste bin sometimes only shows the korganiser with out the other kontact componenets how can I get it to work that it show the other componentsj?
[02:45] <paulvolk> When I try to compile something it wants a QT thing. What would I search for to find it?
[02:46] <Hobbsee> paulvolk: kde-devel?
[02:46] <paulvolk> configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[02:46] <paulvolk> that is what it says
[02:47] <Hobbsee> or grab kdelibs4-dev
[02:47] <Hobbsee> the actual package it's asking for is another one - but those will get it for you, and a whole lot of others that you'll probably end up needing
[02:47] <nxv_> can i minimize the runtime of beagle? i would like to only scan new data instead of checking regular all files
[02:48] <slow-motion> re
[02:49] <Hobbsee> paulvolk: it's actually asking for libqt3-headers
[02:49] <Hobbsee> IIRC
[02:51] <paulvolk> oh ok
[02:51] <Hobbsee> paulvolk: if you're going to do a reasonable amount of compiling kde programs, just grab kde-devel, and you're right...
[02:52] <paulvolk> Ok I did
[02:52] <Hobbsee> cool :)
[02:52] <Hobbsee> run ./configure again tehn :)
[02:52] <paulvolk> ya I will be doing a fair amount of compiling
[02:52] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:52] <Hobbsee> why, what are you compiling?
[02:52] <paulvolk> some programs
[02:52] <sorush20> I keep getting the message in korganiser that canno't save event to calendar... what should i do?
[02:53] <RaRe> hello is Ubuntu's breezy kernel the same with kubuntu's? (breezy kernel 2.6.12-10)
[02:53] <Hobbsee> paulvolk: mmm ok...
[02:53] <Hobbsee> RaRe: yes
[02:53] <RaRe> Hobbsee: Thanks
[02:53] <Hobbsee> RaRe: most of the packages  are the same - just not the display manager ones
[02:53] <Hobbsee> ie, kde or gnome
[02:53] <Hobbsee> you can use kde programs on gnome, and vice versa
[02:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> window manager - x would be the display manager ;)
[02:54] <RaRe> ic ic.. >:D
[02:54] <Hobbsee> er, yeah
[02:54] <Hobbsee> that
[02:55] <paulvolk> could someone tell me a good how to for checkinstall? I would like to use it but don't know how seeing as on my other system I never used it.
[02:56] <Hobbsee> !checkinstall
[02:56] <ubotu> hmm... checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[02:56] <Hobbsee> paulvolk: you cant redistribute packages you make with checkinstall
[02:56] <paulvolk> cool
[02:56] <paulvolk> so like if I am on a network?
[02:57] <Hobbsee> huh?
[03:02] <paulvolk> um could you tell me what I should build the packedge according too?
[03:02] <paulvolk> does it matter?
[03:03] <paulvolk> oh wait nvm I read it wrong
[03:03] <steveire> hi
[03:03] <steveire> I can't get through to ubutuforums.com
[03:03] <steveire> org whatever
[03:05] <Hobbsee> steveire: it's .org
[03:05] <Hobbsee> and...i think it's down...
[03:05] <Hobbsee> was up an hour or so ago...
[03:05] <steveire> seems so
[03:05] <steveire> boo-urns!!!
[03:05] <paulvolk> Hobbsee: Thanks so much I never knew how to use this or I would have used it Thanks so much!
[03:09] <steveire> ooh, what did I miss?
[03:10] <Hobbsee> steveire: with what?
[03:13] <Hobbsee> steveire: they're there...but slowly
 Hobbsee: Thanks so much I never knew how to use this or I would have used it Thanks so much! <<< with that.
[03:14] <Hobbsee> steveire: ah, checkinstall
[03:18] <mozart> re
[03:19] <steveire> i'll google and find out what that is...
[03:23] <ExCaliber> Hello how is evereyone doing?
[03:23] <ExCaliber> Everyone.
[03:23] <_jeff_> lol hey
[03:23] <_jeff_> im good
[03:23] <_jeff_> how about you
[03:23] <ExCaliber> Cool.
[03:23] <ExCaliber> = )
[03:24] <ExCaliber> Im good.
[03:24] <_jeff_> anybody know where i can find my xconfig file?
[03:24] <ExCaliber> Hmm.
[03:24] <_jeff_> i keep getting composite manager failure
[03:24] <ExCaliber> Try in terminal locate xconfig
[03:24] <_jeff_> ok
[03:27] <Hobbsee> _jeff_: as in, xorg.conf?
[03:27] <ExCaliber> _jeff_,Did you find it?
[03:29] <_jeff_> hobbsee:yah, that could be it
[03:29] <_jeff_> no havent found it yet
[03:29] <ExCaliber> Then type this sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:29] <Hobbsee> _jeff_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:29] <ExCaliber> are you doing this for resolution?
[03:30] <_jeff_> no, im trying to use the xcomposite manager
[03:30] <_jeff_> xcommgr
[03:30] <ExCaliber> Oh.
[03:30] <_jeff_> and kwin keeps crashing on me. and the comp manager keeps saying that i have to add it to my x config file
[03:31] <ExCaliber> Hmm.
[03:31] <_jeff_> *xcompmgr
[03:31] <_jeff_> hobbsee:thanks
[03:31] <Hobbsee> _jeff_: not a problem
[03:31] <ExCaliber> = SD
[03:31] <ExCaliber> = D
[03:32] <_jeff_> lol
[03:32] <ExCaliber> Hobbsee:Hello
[03:32] <ExCaliber> ol
[03:32] <ExCaliber> lol
[03:32] <Hobbsee> hi ExCaliber
[03:32] <ExCaliber> = )
[03:32] <ExCaliber> I love kde.
[03:33] <ExCaliber> Sometimes its a pain on knoppix.
[03:33] <ExCaliber> Can't change the resolution screen.
[03:33] <ExCaliber> Screen Resolution.
[03:33] <ExCaliber> I'm using = D
[03:33] <ExCaliber> Kubuntu
[03:34] <_jeff_> yayuh
[03:34] <ExCaliber> Brb.
[03:34] <_jeff_> does anybody use the x composite manager?
[03:34] <erofee> Hi all
[03:34] <_jeff_> hey
[03:35] <erofee> can anyone tell me how to get amaroK to play mp3 files?
[03:35] <jpatrick> !mp3
[03:35] <dave__> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[03:35] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:35] <_jeff_> !w32codecs
[03:35] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[03:35] <erofee> thanks
[03:38] <_jeff_> no problem mang
[03:38] <_jeff_> odyxydo: lol
[03:39] <OdyXydO> _jeff_: what ?
[03:40] <slow-motion> re^x
[03:42] <ExCaliber> Ok im back.
[04:00] <Tm_T> woohoo
[04:05] <_erofee> !lamp
[04:05] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:09] <Nigey> wee
[04:09] <swaits_> if im on breezy, how do i upgrade to dapper?
[04:09] <Nigey> any1 had probs with installing on vmware, i just get a lockup :|
[04:10] <dark_suic> edit your repositories changing all references from breezy to dapper
[04:10] <dark_suic> then update && dist-upgrade should work
[04:10] <swaits_> ok
[04:11] <swaits_> so s/breezy/dapper/g in my sources.. got it.
[04:11] <dark_suic> yep
[04:11] <swaits_> then sudo apt-get update
[04:12] <oddie> is it wise though?
[04:12] <Frys> No managable screens found on display :0.0 <--- why do i keep getting that error when i try to run compiz?
[04:15] <swaits_> here goes nothin'
[04:15] <davix> how can I print to a printer shared on windows?
[04:16] <Hobbsee> davix: using kde print - add the printer in system settings, printers, with the smb protocol
[04:16] <davix> Hobbsee, tnx i'll try
[04:25] <slow-motion> bbl
[04:26] <suspect> Hello
[04:26] <suspect> How is everyone doing?
[04:26] <Hobbsee> hey...
[04:27] <Hobbsee> considering falling asleep at the keyboard, and killing off a couple of bug reports
[04:27] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: kill me instead?
[04:27] <Hobbsee> nah, but if you happened to use KPPP at all, and wanted to test, i'd appreciate it
[04:27] <_jeff_> hey gangsters
[04:27] <suspect> Hobbsee:Hello its excaliber.
[04:27] <suspect> = D
[04:27] <Hobbsee> ah, hi :)
[04:28] <suspect> Hi.
[04:28] <davix> Hobbsee, something is wrong with my cups and it wont let me do anything
[04:28] <jpatrick> I thought that was a sword
[04:28] <Hobbsee> davix: breezy or dapper?
[04:28] <davix> dapper
[04:28] <_jeff_> is this the kmenu for dapper or something?:http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/37934-1.jpg
[04:29] <jpatrick> _jeff_: no
[04:29] <Hobbsee> _jeff_: eek no lol
[04:29] <_jeff_> damnit
[04:29] <_jeff_> i want that kmenu
[04:29] <_jeff_> it looks so sexy
[04:29] <jpatrick> kbfx is buggy
[04:29] <_jeff_> its kbfx?
[04:29] <jpatrick> yes
[04:29] <_jeff_> hmm
[04:29] <jpatrick> it's in dapper
[04:30] <jpatrick> I know, I packaged it
[04:30] <me2win[sleep] > jpatrick: by default?
[04:30] <jpatrick> me2win[sleep] : no
[04:30] <_jeff_> ok
[04:30] <_jeff_> is it buggy because its in dapper or is it just kbfx
[04:30] <jpatrick> go "aptitude -vvvvv moo" !
[04:31] <jpatrick> kbfx itself is buggy
[04:32] <_jeff_> hmmmmm
[04:32] <_jeff_> mmmmmmmmm
[04:32] <_jeff_> ok
[04:35] <paulvolk> How would I configure a program to start on startup?
[04:37] <_jeff_> iunno
[04:38] <Hobbsee> paulvolk: add a symlink into ~/.kde/Autostart
[04:39] <Hobbsee> or if you want it for all users, symlink into /usr/whatever/the/path/is/use/locate/here/Autostart
[04:39] <Hobbsee> :P
[04:44] <suspect> Im back.
[04:47] <suspect> Hello.
[04:47] <me2win> hello Excaliber
[04:48] <Excaliber> Hello.
[04:48] <Excaliber> Whatsup?
[04:54] <DeadS0ul> i'm getting a lot of time outs on nfs dirs for some reason
[04:56] <Excaliber> Oh.
[04:59] <Excaliber> You need any help?
[04:59] <Tm_T> who? me?
[05:00] <Tm_T> cccc__: what's this all jumping?
[05:00] <Distro^Junkie> installed dapper and getting an error when adept starts up
[05:00] <Distro^Junkie> Could not find mime type
[05:00] <Distro^Junkie> application/octet-stream
[05:00] <Excaliber> Anyone need help?
[05:00] <Tm_T> whoo
[05:00] <Distro^Junkie> No mime types installed.
[05:00] <Tm_T> Excaliber: I do
[05:00] <Excaliber> Ok.
[05:00] <Tm_T> Distro^Junkie: use apt
[05:00] <Excaliber> Whats the problem?
[05:01] <Tm_T> Distro^Junkie: I know you can do
[05:01] <Tm_T> Excaliber: I have huge problem with my ego
[05:01] <me2win> Distro^Junkie: It does that for me too, I'm convinved it's a bug in dapper
[05:01] <Excaliber> Your ego?
[05:01] <Tm_T> Excaliber: can you give some boost to me? ;)
[05:01] <Tm_T> yeah
[05:01] <Excaliber> WHat does that have to do with kubuntu?
[05:01] <Excaliber> lol
[05:01] <Tm_T> ...well, because...
[05:01] <Distro^Junkie> hmm ran adept again and its getting the updates
[05:02] <Tm_T> Excaliber: everything?
[05:02] <Excaliber> Hmm.
[05:02] <Excaliber> Well i can't help you with everything.lol
[05:02] <Tm_T> bah
[05:02] <Tm_T> Excaliber: ok, here's another one
[05:02] <Excaliber> Ok.
[05:03] <Tm_T> Excaliber: my toe is hurting
[05:03] <Excaliber> oh
[05:03] <Excaliber> wow
[05:03] <Excaliber> thats not kubuntu
[05:03] <Tm_T> indeed
[05:03] <Tm_T> it's not?
[05:03] <Excaliber> thats kutoetu
[05:03] <Tm_T> ah then, I'llignore it
[05:03] <Excaliber> lol
[05:04] <ambassador> hottoo... so this must be ircing...
[05:04] <Excaliber> Yes.
[05:04] <Tm_T> ambassador: I don't think so, this is almost intelligent
[05:04] <Excaliber> Does anyone need any kubuntu help?
[05:04] <Tm_T> Excaliber: why you're asking that =)
[05:04] <Excaliber> Because i want to help.
[05:04] <Tm_T> aah
[05:04] <_jeff_> lol go ex
[05:04] <Excaliber> I love o help people.
[05:04] <Hobbsee> Excaliber: i need a "cd /home/hobbsee/brain dpkg --reconfigure brain
[05:04] <Hobbsee> or whatever it was
[05:05] <Excaliber> Well at least try to help.
[05:05] <Excaliber> = )
[05:05] <ambassador> well I think almost everyone needs some kubuntu help... after all one can get kubuntu all messed up by just installing one package
[05:05] <_jeff_> go ex
[05:05] <me2win> Hobbsee: i have that right here for you one sec....
[05:05] <me2win> !lart Hobbsee
[05:05] <me2win> :P
[05:05] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:05] <Tm_T> Excaliber: well, mind to try to compile Kopete 0.12 with jingle support and then call me? just for testing?
[05:05] <Excaliber> Compile kopete for what.
[05:05] <Excaliber> Just y\use gaim.
[05:05] <me2win> Excaliber: exactly :D
[05:05] <Excaliber> use*
[05:06] <_jeff_> for some reason i cant get amarok-engines off the repos
[05:06] <Excaliber> = D
[05:06] <_jeff_> it says the package is broken
[05:06] <Tm_T> Excaliber: ...don't you _ever_ say that again to me, ok?!
[05:06] <Excaliber> Please be patient.
[05:06] <me2win> lol
[05:06] <Excaliber> lol
[05:07] <Hobbsee> night
[05:07] <Excaliber> night
[05:07] <Excaliber> Its not night time.
[05:07] <Excaliber> T \
[05:08] <jpatrick> anyone else's MSN died?
[05:08] <Excaliber> no.
[05:08] <ambassador> hmm... okay now a stupid question that doesn't relate to kubuntu in any way: how do I join a chat channel? something like #mychannel right?
[05:08] <me2win> jpatrick: its been dead in my eyes for years now ;(
[05:08] <me2win> ambassador: /j #mychannel
[05:08] <wincide> jpatrick:  mine is died too
[05:08] <ambassador> hotto... danke danke...
[05:08] <me2win> de nada
[05:09] <Excaliber> you type join
[05:09] <Excaliber> with the /
[05:09] <Excaliber> the #mychannel
[05:09] <Excaliber> then*
[05:09] <Excaliber> 1./2.join3.#mychannel
[05:10] <Excaliber> !tell ambassador about irc
[05:10] <jpatrick> how fun
[05:10] <Tm_T> jpatrick: always
[05:11] <Tm_T> jpatrick: somehow kde4 stuff is badly broken this time of year ;)
[05:11] <Excaliber> = \
[05:11] <ambassador> kk... hmm.. I'm guessing that I have to have a password cause I got an message "You need to be identified to join that channel"
[05:11] <Excaliber> KDE kubuntu is the best
[05:11] <ambassador> almost the best
[05:11] <me2win> my fan speed controller broke, so I got a replacement for it and the company is taking forever to send it back. And it's making me angry because I have like 1 fan operating when I normally have 6
[05:11] <Excaliber> Yes it looks n ice.
[05:11] <Tm_T> Excaliber: well well well, but you can't do developing with it ;)
[05:11] <Excaliber> = )
[05:11] <Excaliber> Looks better than ubuntu correct?
[05:11] <ambassador> lol why not?
[05:12] <_jeff_> kubuntu rules
[05:12] <ambassador> ofcourse you can do developing...
[05:12] <_jeff_> pwnz bitches
[05:12] <Excaliber> Watch the language.
[05:12] <Tm_T> ambassador: ...not KDE4 developing
[05:12] <Tm_T> ambassador: not that I do that either =)
[05:12] <Excaliber> = )
[05:13] <Excaliber> Any of ya know a little Python?
[05:13] <jpatrick> Me
[05:13] <ambassador> Tm_T: okay now I make a fool of my self and ask what is KDE4 developing?
[05:13] <ambassador> I can code python too... lol
[05:13] <Excaliber> I know a little python.
[05:13] <Excaliber> I'm up to lesson 4.
[05:13] <Tm_T> ambassador: well, you know, err, look! bird!
[05:13] <ambassador> that reminds me of a stupid problem that I'm having with a opengl python code at the moment...
[05:14] <ambassador> HAAA *caught it'
[05:14] <MacAnthony> Lesson 4 in what Excaliber?
[05:14] <jpatrick> Python
[05:14] <Excaliber> Python.
[05:14] <ambassador> some book I assume...
[05:14] <Excaliber> It's easy
[05:14] <ambassador> lol try C++... its not easy XD
[05:14] <MacAnthony> I know, I meant for what tutorial
[05:14] <jpatrick> ambassador: a bit
[05:14] <Excaliber> x=int(raw_input("Please enter an integer: "))
[05:15] <MacAnthony> was curious what you were going through
[05:15] <Excaliber> = )
[05:15] <Distro^Junkie> been a while since I've used kubuntu but am still amazed at it
[05:15] <Excaliber> Python is almost like C.
[05:15] <ambassador> well... not quite...
[05:15] <Excaliber> uses a little C.
[05:16] <Nigey> any1 had probs with installing on vmware, i just get a lockup :|
[05:16] <Excaliber> No.
[05:16] <ambassador> well you can code some modules with C... yes... but the basic structure of python and the syntax differs from C a lot
[05:16] <Excaliber> sudo apt-get install vmware
[05:16] <Nigey> i mean with kubuntu as the guest not host
[05:16] <Excaliber> Oh.
[05:16] <Nigey> mine jus locks up cold on uncompressing kernel :S
[05:16] <Excaliber> apt-get install wmware
[05:17] <Excaliber> vmware*
[05:17] <Excaliber> In terminal.
[05:17] <corvux> I'm trying to install kubuntu to have the standard kde appearance, but it keeps coming up looking like the old original ubuntu dektop...I used "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop" and then "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop",....what am I missing?
[05:18] <Excaliber> Look at the bottom right corner on startup
[05:18] <Excaliber> When typing you user name and pw.
[05:19] <corvux> Excaliber, was that directed to me?
[05:19] <Excaliber> Yes.
[05:19] <corvux> thanks
[05:19] <Excaliber> Np.
[05:19] <trappist> cow_2001: removing ubuntu-desktop won't do anything
[05:20] <noaXess> hi all..
[05:20] <noaXess> how can i convert dvr-ms video files to mpg?
[05:20] <trappist> cow_2001: installing kubuntu-desktop *should* install kdm, whereupon you should be asked whether you'd like to use gdm or kdm, and once you're using kdm you'll want to select kde as your desktop environment
[05:20] <trappist> noaXess: mencoder
[05:21] <Excaliber> I don't know about converting audio  or video files.
[05:21] <ambassador> does anyone know with what function I can measure time in python? I have tried Timer but for some reason it stops running after 4 runs...
[05:21] <Excaliber> I know how to convert .rpm files to .deb files.
[05:21] <Excaliber> sudo alien
[05:21] <noaXess> trappist: oke..
[05:21] <Excaliber> am i correct?
[05:21] <trappist> Excaliber: yes.
[05:21] <Excaliber> Ok.
[05:22] <noaXess> trappist: is mencoder a kubuntu package?
[05:22] <nxv_> ?suspend
[05:22] <nxv_> ? suspend
[05:22] <jpatrick> ambassador: import time
[05:23] <jpatrick> after that I don't remember......
[05:23] <Excaliber> hmm.
[05:23] <nxv_> how can i use suspend 2 ram or disc with dapper
[05:24] <jpatrick> KPowerSave
[05:24] <ambassador> jpatrick hmmm... I need some kind of function reference for the time lib... othervise it is pretty useless...
[05:25] <Excaliber> Ubuntu is random becuase so many people have problems with it.
[05:25] <Excaliber> = \
[05:25] <ambassador> there is a one at www.python.org but didn't get much out of it...
[05:26] <thompa> where is ksensors?
[05:27] <Excaliber> locate ksnsors
[05:27] <Excaliber> ksensors*
[05:40] <noaXess> dvr-ms to mpeg??
[05:40] <noaXess> mencoder.. but is it a kubuntu package
[05:47] <Excaliber> Hello,.
[05:47] <noaXess> hi
[05:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[05:50] <jpatrick> hi
[05:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> hows it going jpatrick
[05:50] <jpatrick> bad
[05:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh. ditto
[05:50] <jpatrick> loads of homework still in TODO queue by tomorrow
[05:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> nasty stuff homework
[05:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm trying to find a good way to recover my partition table
[05:57] <mlehrer> kde & gaim don't get anti-aliasing but Firefox does - any idea why
[05:57] <mlehrer> does firefox do the fonts on the client box?  i am using xdmcp to connect to the box with kubuntu
[05:59] <mpathy> For what kind of programming KDevelop makes the most sense? Is it also a recognizeable IDE for scripting languages?
[05:59] <mpathy> Hi there, first..
[06:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi mpathy, it should do whatever you need it to. depending on your language there may be a betterchoice thouth
[06:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> *better choice though
[06:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> mlehrer, firefox may have got speical treatment
[06:01] <noaXess> how to convert dvr-ms to mpeg??
[06:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> there may be a gtk-> qt conversion engine
[06:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> noaXess, whats dvr-ms?
[06:01] <noaXess> Kamping_Kaiser: its the m$ mediacenter recodring format..
[06:02] <mpathy> Kamping_Kaiser: I asked because of my try to have a qt / kde only enviroment.. I mostly do things in python..
[06:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> good luck.....
[06:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> mpathy, it should do python fine, i use vim as my ide :$
[06:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> vim > *
[06:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> except maybe emacs, havent used it enough to decide
[06:04] <mpathy> Kamping_Kaiser: yeah sure vim is the swiss army knife, that I have with me in every enviroment ;) but I ask mostly because of special convinience functions of some other tools?
[06:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> mpathy, i have only coded python in vim, so although there are probably tools in the repos, i hvet tried them sorry
[06:06] <mpathy> okay
[06:16] <slow-motion> re
[06:19] <ccc_> hmm, cell@host-87-74-36-66.bulldogdsl.com seems to have a problem. constant parting/joining and has 4 ghosts up only on this channel. similar nick to me too, so i'm scared i'll be banned ;)
[06:28] <mitakka> A video player with ciryllic subtitles wanted.$100 000 000 reward :))))
[06:29] <mlehrer> for $100 million (in advance) i'm sure i could come up with one
[06:31] <mitakka> Ok give me yor account number
[06:33] <mitakka> I know about mplayer but it is not in a good relationship with kubuntu
[06:33] <mitakka> And all this for fucking KDE
[06:33] <Tm_T> ?
[06:34] <mitakka> Ubuntu has no problems with mplayer
[06:34] <Tm_T> mitakka: you can use mplayer in KDE just fine
[06:34] <mitakka> but Kubuntu.............
[06:34] <mitakka> in kubuntu???????
[06:34] <Snake__> Yea...
[06:35] <mitakka> uffff but i tried
[06:35] <mitakka> with adept, and synaptic
[06:35] <mitakka> I have to comile it???
[06:35] <douglas> Hey everyone, Let's say I shared a folder in windows with write permissions, and I wanted to do that exact same thing in linux, how do I do that, I believe I have samba configured correctly but what about fstab?
[06:38] <douglas> Hey!
[06:38] <noaXess> ho
[06:39] <douglas> let's go
[06:39] <douglas> Hey everyone, Let's say I shared a folder in windows with write permissions, and I wanted to do that exact same thing in linux, how do I do that, I believe I have samba configured correctly but what about fstab?
[06:39] <uniq> douglas: you don't need to do anything with fstab.
[06:39] <douglas> Then why can't I write to the drive?
[06:39] <uniq> how did you mount it?
[06:39] <douglas> in fstab?
[06:40] <uniq> did you mount the windows-share in linux with fstab?
[06:40] <ccc_> mitakka: you install it the exact same way you install it in ubuntu. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[06:40] <douglas> no, I have a linux server running smbd and I want to share a folder and give everyone read and write permissions.
[06:40] <douglas> Currently I can't write to it, evern though I have the option "read only = no" in my smb.conf
[06:41] <noaXess> how to convert dvr-ms to mpeg??
[06:43] <douglas> uniq: Is there any other option I need to set?
[06:43] <mitakka> oki i will try AGAIN :)
[06:43] <tomplast> hi
[06:44] <tomplast> cany anyone tell me if there is anyway to bypass "streamripper rejected by server" in amarok?
[06:44] <eugman> I know this has nothing to do with kubuntu specifically but ubuntu is way to crowded; What's the best way to turn a terminal command into a desktop icon?
[06:48] <noaXess> is there a kubunut package for mplayer
[06:48] <leeghoofd> hey, is it possible to play with xgl in kubuntu (kde) dapper?
[06:49] <douglas> Perhaps someone can show me their smb.conf which leaves a share completely open, read and write to any user?
[06:50] <noaXess> douglas: yea.. just a minute
[06:51] <douglas> noaXess: Thanks
[06:51] <tomplast> anyone using streamripper?
[06:51] <douglas> no
[06:52] <douglas> not here
[06:53] <tomplast> :'(
[06:53] <tomplast> i really wanna ripp virgin radio :'(
[06:53] <tomplast> i really love that channel :'(
[06:53] <douglas> yar
[06:53] <noaXess> douglas: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/665305
[06:54] <noaXess> is there a kubuntu package for mplayer?
[06:54] <uniq> douglas: you need to make sure the guest user have write access to the directory you share.
[06:54] <tomplast> noaXess: using dapper or breezy?
[06:55] <noaXess> breezy
[06:55] <tomplast> hmm, wait a second
[06:55] <douglas> uniq: Can I do that with chown -R 0777 /path/to/folder ?
[06:55] <douglas> uniq: Is there any other commands I should run?
[06:56] <munzir> Hi, I installed kmldonkey but it's not working. even mldonkey_server is not as shown at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12453 any hint please?
[06:57] <tomplast> noaXess: try to add  deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main to the repository
[06:57] <tomplast> noaXess: that should do it, i hope :)
[06:58] <noaXess> tomplast: ok i try..
[06:58] <noaXess> tomplast: can mplayer convert dvr-ms to mpeg?
[06:59] <tomplast> noaXess: dvr-ms?
[06:59] <noaXess> tomplast: the m$ mediacenter recording format..
[06:59] <tomplast> noaXess: i haven't tried to do some converting that much so im afraid that you will have to consult some one else on that question
[06:59] <douglas> Doesn't transcode do something like that?
[06:59] <tomplast> yeah, that could be true
[07:00] <tomplast> but i wonder if it supports windows format
[07:00] <tomplast> dont forget to install w32codecs noaXess
[07:00] <douglas> www.mplayerhq.hu
[07:00] <douglas> I believe you can get a giant codec pack from there
[07:00] <tomplast> yeah, but isnt w32codecs best?
[07:00] <tomplast> im using it and can play almost everything
[07:01] <noaXess> tomplast: is w32codecs for all video player?
[07:01] <douglas> and then transcode can use mplayer in conjunction with the codecs to "transcode"
[07:01] <douglas> there's a giant pack that includes the w32codecs
[07:01] <tomplast> is it?
[07:01] <v3ctor> you can install w32codecs via apt
[07:01] <douglas> true
[07:01] <tomplast> mm
[07:01] <tomplast> btw, can anyone help me with streamripper :'(?
[07:02] <v3ctor> http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/index.htm#codecs
[07:02] <tomplast> i really record some radio and get free music :P
[07:02] <tomplast> wanna
[07:03] <sredna> Kprinter is broken un my fully updated dapper system :(
[07:03] <noaXess> tomplast: Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[07:04] <tomplast> try to replace testing with etch
[07:04] <tomplast> that should work
[07:04] <tomplast> i could access  it then :)
[07:04] <noaXess> tomplast: better
[07:05] <noaXess> tomplast: now an error  GPG error
[07:05] <tomplast> hmm, yeah... i dont remember exactly and i must go :(
[07:05] <mhterres> hi
[07:05] <tomplast> sorry
[07:05] <tomplast> but these guys can help you :)
[07:06] <tomplast> i hope you will get it working :)
[07:06] <tomplast> i dont know if the gpg error is fatal btw
[07:06] <tomplast> could work anyway, not sure
[07:06] <tomplast> good luck
[07:06] <Vge> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/665338 <-- somebody can say why my internet wont work, works fine trought this vmware that im using atm, but not trought kubuntu?
[07:06] <Vge> and the confiquration is correct there
[07:07] <Excaliber> Hello.
[07:07] <Seantater> Vge: I see your problem: wired or wireless
[07:07] <Vge> wired, wireless aint working at all atm
[07:08] <Vge> well i just want the wired to start working
[07:08] <Seantater> Which are you _trying_ to use, not which _works_
[07:08] <Excaliber> Any of ya need some help.?
[07:08] <Seantater> Excaliber: yes, Vge
[07:08] <Excaliber> Whats the problem?
[07:08] <Vge> _()/ :)
[07:08] <Seantater> Vge is explaing that now
[07:09] <Vge> shoot
[07:09] <Seantater> excalibur: read vge's paserbin
[07:09] <Excaliber> Vge: Whats the problem?
[07:09] <Vge> ohh sry, i misred
[07:09] <Vge> well misconfiquration in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:09] <Vge>  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/665338 <-- somebody can say why my internet wont work, works fine trought this vmware that im using atm, but not trought kubuntu?
[07:10] <Vge> wired is not working
[07:10] <Excaliber> Hmm.
[07:10] <Excaliber> What kind of connection do you have?
[07:10] <Seantater> Vge: Ethernet?
[07:10] <Vge> ethernet needs to start working, and it "works" cos im using it trought windows in vmware atm
[07:11] <v3ctor> try removing the "network 192.168.0.0" line
[07:11] <Vge> sec
[07:11] <Seantater> Vge: try turning off the ethernet and then back on
[07:12] <Seantater> Vge: Perhaps vmware and Linu\x cannot use the same wire at the same time
[07:12] <Vge> Seantater: yes it can, cos i have done that before
[07:12] <Vge> v3ctor: that didint help
[07:12] <Seantater> vge: new to me, I've never use vmware
[07:13] <Seantater> Is it standard ethernet (10/100), with run-of-the mill netword card?
[07:13] <Excaliber> Just unplug the modem from the electricty.
[07:13] <Excaliber> And plug it back in.
[07:13] <Excaliber> It should work then.
[07:13] <v3ctor> does ifconfig -a show eth0 ?
[07:14] <Seantater> Vge: what are you connecting to? Router, another computer, etc?
[07:14] <Excaliber> Wait what kind of modem do you have??
[07:14] <Excaliber> Optimum?
[07:15] <v3ctor> `sudo mii-tool` see if it has link
[07:15] <Excaliber> Vge
[07:15] <Vge> yuo
[07:15] <Excaliber> Vge: What kind of connection do you have?
[07:15] <DeadS0ul> god dammit
[07:16] <Vge> router would be closest i guess
[07:16] <Excaliber> Oh.
[07:16] <DeadS0ul> is anyone else having trouble with nfs? i keep getting time outs
[07:16] <Excaliber> Do you have the router next to you or something?
[07:16] <Seantater> DeadS0ul: Nfs never wotrked for me: I use sshfs
[07:16] <Vge> well, it's a school dorm or something
[07:17] <Excaliber> Well if you have the router with you then unplug it the plug it back in.
[07:17] <Excaliber> Then it should work.
[07:19] <Vge> naah, connection works fine. i get confused with english terms sometimes, it's just a lan
[07:20] <Excaliber> Oh.
[07:20] <Excaliber> Then i dont know
[07:20] <Excaliber> lol
[07:20] <Excaliber> Sorry.
[07:20] <sunil> hmm
[07:20] <Excaliber> hmm
[07:21] <Excaliber> how do i do a certain command with irc like hide
[07:21] <v3ctor> Vge: did you try `sudo mii-tool` ?
[07:21] <Excaliber> nevermind
[07:23] <Excaliber> Ok.
[07:25] <munzir> Hi, I installed kmldonkey but it's not working. even mldonkey_server is not as shown at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12453 any hint please?
[07:26] <Excaliber> Hmm.
[07:26] <Excaliber> did you try sudo apt-get install software.
[07:27] <Excaliber> On the terminal
[07:27] <ninHer> hi all
[07:27] <Excaliber> Hi.
[07:28] <xbox_sky> I just added another panel (bottom) but evrytime I edit it , the top panel gets changed, how the fruit do you edit the bottom panel ONLY?
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> edit what exactly?
[07:29] <xbox_sky> size of the panel from 100% - 50%
[07:30] <Excaliber> Hmm.
[07:30] <xbox_sky> evrytime I do that, top panel gets changed
[07:30] <xbox_sky> but I want to change bottom panel ONLY
[07:30] <Excaliber> Wait you talking about ubuntu?
[07:30] <xbox_sky> I thought by right clicking on the panel I want, should mark it up for an edit
[07:30] <Excaliber> You should go to ubuntu server
[07:31] <Excaliber> !tell xbox_sky to go to #ubuntu server channel
[07:31] <xbox_sky> is there a difference between ubuntu w KDE and kubuntu?
[07:31] <xbox_sky> I am in #ubuntu as well
[07:31] <xbox_sky> they told me to join #kubuntu
[07:31] <_vge> Excaliber: donno what reboot does, but it usually works :)
[07:31] <Excaliber> Hmm
[07:31] <Excaliber> = D
[07:31] <Excaliber> Reboot is restarting the computer.
[07:31] <Excaliber> xbox_sky: are you using ubuntu?
[07:32] <_vge> i know, but i tought "restarting the network" is usually the same
[07:32] <xbox_sky> Ex, i'm using ubuntu w KDE
[07:32] <xbox_sky> what's the diff between ubuntu (KDE) vs kubuntu?
[07:33] <Excaliber> KDE is better = D
[07:33] <Excaliber> lol
[07:33] <Excaliber> It has KDE desktop.
[07:33] <xbox_sky> heh
[07:33] <xbox_sky> so it's the same then
[07:33] <Excaliber> And it looks cooler.
[07:33] <xbox_sky> aka i'm in the right place
[07:34] <Excaliber> You should install it
[07:34] <Excaliber> You have it installed?
[07:34] <xbox_sky> install what?
[07:34] <Excaliber> Kubuntu
[07:34] <Excaliber> You would still have ubuntu.
[07:34] <xbox_sky> no.. I started out with ubuntu, a few weeks later I replaced GNOME with KDE
[07:34] <Excaliber> And your account.
[07:35] <xbox_sky> but isn't kubuntu just ubuntu w KDE?
[07:35] <v3ctor> or is it unbuntu without gnome?
[07:35] <Tm_T> xbox_sky: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE instead of Gnome
[07:35] <Tm_T> xbox_sky: + some nice artwork and tools
[07:36] <xbox_sky> as I thought, tx
[07:36] <v3ctor> what you have is ubuntu with gnome and kde
[07:36] <xbox_sky> then I'm in the right place
[07:36] <xbox_sky> V3, I have ubuntu with KDE not GNOME
[07:36] <_vge> is unbuntu ubuntu with server install? ;)
[07:36] <v3ctor> did you apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop?
[07:36] <Tm_T> v3ctor: that doesn't remove anything really
[07:36] <xbox_sky> so about panels... how do you edit your newly added panel (bottom) ?
[07:36] <v3ctor> lol
[07:37] <xbox_sky> I have the libs v3ctor if that's what you're asking
[07:37] <Tm_T> v3ctor: stop that, you're not helping any
[07:37] <Excaliber> Yes kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE.
[07:37] <Tm_T> xbox_sky: well, use right click in it
[07:37] <Excaliber> And it has way more features.
[07:37] <xbox_sky> Tm I have
[07:37] <nico8481> xbox_sky: you probably installed kde "by hand" with Apt-get install kde-something, kubuntu can be seen as a "meta-package" (one exists, named kubuntu-desktop) that installs everything related to a kde destkop so basically it's rather the same
[07:37] <xbox_sky> and when I right click it configure panel
[07:37] <_vge> xbox_sky: you can edit them by secondclicking them or using kcontrol
[07:38] <xbox_sky> ONLY the TOP gets edited, despite I right clicked on the bottom panel
[07:38] <xbox_sky> nico8481 yeah that's what I did
[07:38] <Tm_T> xbox_sky: well, wait right there
[07:39] <nico8481> xbox_sky: what did you "apt-get"? kubuntu-desktop? or the kde packages ?
[07:39] <Tm_T> xbox_sky: when you go to "Configure - KDE panel" in the first page about in the middle top there is dropdown list
[07:39] <Tm_T> nico8481: doesn't matter
[07:39] <v3ctor> really doesn't matter
[07:39] <Tm_T> nico8481: irrelevant
[07:39] <nico8481> Tm_T: no i know it doesn't
[07:39] <Excaliber> sudo apt-get install kde
[07:39] <Tm_T> nico8481: why you're asking then =)
[07:39] <nico8481> Tm_T: just to clarify its "that's what i did" :)
[07:39] <Tm_T> youare just causing noise when some of us are trying to help him
[07:39] <xbox_sky> in the config option I have a few settings like Position/Length/Size
[07:40] <nico8481> Tm_T: i think i did provide clarification, not noise... read what i wrote
[07:40] <Tm_T> xbox_sky: yes, top of it there's dropdownlist, "Settings for: "
[07:40] <xbox_sky> it doesn't matter what setting I pick ,because the TOP panel is the only one who receives the changes
[07:40] <Excaliber> !tell xbox_sky how to install kubuntu
[07:40] <Tm_T> oh my...
[07:40] <Excaliber> god
[07:40] <xbox_sky> Excaliber, wtf?
[07:41] <v3ctor> xbox_sky: there is a drop menu to choose what panel to change
[07:41] <Excaliber> lol
[07:41] <xbox_sky> you think it's funny+
[07:41] <Excaliber> I tried to make ubotu to send you a tutorial.
[07:41] <Excaliber> He said no.lol
[07:41] <xbox_sky> I know about the bot excalibur, I have an issue regarding panels and you want me to install kubuntu?
[07:41] <Excaliber> I wasn't paying attention.
[07:42] <Excaliber> I thought ya was talking about installin kubuntu.
[07:42] <xbox_sky> v3ctor hmm
[07:42] <xbox_sky> Excaliber oh ok np
[07:42] <Excaliber> = )
[07:42] <v3ctor> xbox_sky: i was able to create top panel and change it's size
[07:42] <Tm_T> xbox_sky: as I said... 20:40 < Tm_T> xbox_sky: yes, top of it there's dropdownlist, "Settings for: "
[07:43] <Tm_T> xbox_sky: you select the panel you like to configure
[07:43] <v3ctor> should have choice of "main panel" and "panel"
[07:43] <Tm_T> yup
[07:43] <Excaliber> Well i have to go.
[07:43] <Excaliber> Bye everyone.
[07:43] <Excaliber> = D
[07:44] <xbox_sky> let me grab you a screenie
[07:44] <adaran> hello everyone. i am missing thunderbird, or rather, i can't find it on the menu. where is it supposed to be?
[07:44] <Tm_T> xbox_sky: ooh I love screenies :)
[07:45] <Tm_T> adaran: good question
[07:46] <Tm_T> adaran: I think in "internet" but, if it's not there... use run dialog?
[07:46] <adaran> Tm_T: hmm i'd love to have it on the menu, but kmenuedit doesn't work very well, too
[07:46] <adaran> ah, well, i'll check it later. thanks
[07:46] <xbox_sky> Tm_T http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v32/Skynet/?action=view&current=mdesk12.jpg
[07:48] <Tm_T> xbox_sky: that's ... err, is it KDE 3.5.2?
[07:48] <Tm_T> because
[07:48] <v3ctor> http://v3ctor.org/~simon/v3ctor_panel.png
[07:49] <xbox_sky> wow v3ctor, I don't have an option like that
[07:49] <xbox_sky> Tm_T yeah?
[07:49] <Tm_T> xbox_sky: well, you should have option like in v3ctor's screenshot
[07:50] <xbox_sky> yeah but as you can see I don't... should I re-install KDE or something?
[07:50] <xbox_sky> KDE 3.5.2 here
[07:50] <errpast-wc> Installing Ubuntu via PXE network boot is the way to go if you have no cd-r at hand or if you have no cdrom at all.
[07:50] <errpast-wc> After reading Installation of Woody with PXE (http://www.debianplanet.com/node.php?id=818&cid=13384) it wasn't hard to setup a PXE boot environment.
[07:51] <eduardo> hi
[07:51] <xbox_sky> I solved it
[07:51] <eduardo> how are you guys
[07:51] <Tm_T> xbox_sky: whoo, what was it
[07:51] <xbox_sky> thanks for your help Tm_T/v3ctor, tx alot guys ^_^
[07:52] <eduardo> hey i have a problem with kubuntu
[07:52] <v3ctor> np
[07:52] <Tm_T> eduardo: go on
[07:52] <eduardo> i cant play MP3 music
[07:52] <Tm_T> !mp3
[07:52] <dave__> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[07:52] <v3ctor> Tm_T: see....i can be helpful ;P
[07:52] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:52] <xbox_sky> tmt I closed down the screen a few times, and when I started it up again, there was this "setting" bar just as in v3 screenie
[07:52] <Tm_T> v3ctor: can you? ;)
[07:52] <v3ctor> lol
[07:52] <Tm_T> xbox_sky: heh
[07:53] <xbox_sky> ^_^
[07:53] <eduardo> they i wouldnt be able to play mp3 music?
[07:53] <eduardo> what can i do?
[07:53] <Tm_T> 20:52 < ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:53] <Tm_T> I feel like I'm repeating
[07:54] <Tm_T> eduardo: there's your answer
[07:54] <eduardo> sorry hehe
[07:54] <Tm_T> ;)
[07:55] <eduardo> i tried already
[07:55] <eduardo> but an error occurs
[07:56] <eduardo> its says something about Dependences
[07:57] <Tm_T> eduardo: how about pasting the whole thing to kubuntu.pastebin.com and we have a look, ok?
[07:58] <Tm_T> eduardo: and paste the url of your paste to here ;)
[08:00] <eduardo> mmm let me c
[08:01] <eduardo> hey how can i remove all access restrictions of a folder into /opt. so i can create new foldes into that one
[08:02] <eduardo> rename its files and modify them??
[08:02] <Tm_T> err?
[08:02] <eduardo> ???????????????????/
[08:02] <Tm_T> why you need to create stuff to /opt?
[08:02] <eduardo> have you heard about XAMMP?
[08:02] <eduardo> it is install into /opt
[08:03] <Tm_T> ok
[08:03] <Tm_T> never heard
[08:03] <eduardo> anyways. do u know how to remove access restrictions of a file? or folder??
[08:04] <eduardo> access restrictions and permissions
[08:04] <Tm_T> !cli
[08:04] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[08:04] <eduardo> so any user can modify the file and folder
[08:04] <Tm_T> eduardo: there you go
[08:05] <eduardo> ok let me c man. as you notice i am new at this is stuff. but kubuntu is freaking good, inst  ir?
[08:05] <Tm_T> it is
[08:05] <Tm_T> I wouldn't be here otherwise ;)
[08:06] <eduardo> yeah i would say
[08:07] <eduardo> i have tried a lot of another distros and i didnt like no one
[08:07] <Distro^Junkie> is there extra despositories needed to be added for dapper ?
[08:07] <Distro^Junkie> depositories*
[08:07] <Distro^Junkie> lol
[08:07] <Distro^Junkie> can't type today
[08:08] <Distro^Junkie> repositories
[08:08] <Distro^Junkie> there we go
[08:14] <Distro^Junkie> http://www.macewan.org/2006/03/23/dapper-repositories/  <--- how up to date is this dapper sources.list ?
[08:23] <h3sp4wn>  <Distro^Junkie> : Would you trust anything with http://soulmachine.net/breezy/ /unstable/ in it ?
[08:24] <h3sp4wn> or deb http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/files/ unstable main - I know I wouldn't
[08:24] <waylandbill> how does one configure the MTA to use another SMTP server for sending mail (don't deliver locally)
[08:25] <adaran> okay, another try: i've installed mozilla-firefox and mozilla-thunderbird. i've closed my kde session, killed the Xserver and logged back in, stil there's no firefox or thunderbird on my menu. what could be wrong there?
[08:25] <Distro^Junkie> h3sp4wn: sorry didn't see that
[08:26] <Distro^Junkie> where a good sources'list to use ?
[08:26] <Distro^Junkie> where's*
[08:26] <ccc_> Distro^Junkie: just change 'breezy' to 'dapper' in your sources.list and do a dist-upgrade.
[08:26] <Tm_T> !sources
[08:26] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:26] <Tm_T> off ->
[08:26] <Distro^Junkie> already using dapper ccc_
[08:26] <ccc_> oh ok
[08:29] <Distro^Junkie> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[08:29] <Distro^Junkie> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[08:29] <Distro^Junkie> ran sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:35] <jindiaz> ryanakca: hey yu there man?
[08:36] <h3sp4wn>  <Distro^Junkie> - sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock - If you are sure synaptic etc is definately not running
[08:36] <Distro^Junkie> thanx
[08:37] <johnshaft> Hi. I just installed kubuntu-desktop. When I log into KDE none of my windows have any borders, titlebars, or buttons. Can anyone help?
[08:46] <jindiaz> i cant belive how hard it is to set up more then one drive in kubuntu... i swear dapper better have friggin automatic drive detection or something... jesus christ ive been at this for a day and a half...
[08:48] <ryanakca> jindiaz: yeah
[08:49] <ryanakca> jindiaz: I was upstairs making pancakes, what's up?
[08:50] <jindiaz> ryanakca: lol.  hey remeber yu helped me with the fisk thing right?  do yu knoe how to set up multiple drives?  im having SERIOUS issues
[08:51] <ryanakca> jindiaz: fisk? multiple drives? when was that?
[08:51] <v3ctor> probably fdisk
[08:51] <ryanakca> jindiaz: I have no clue about that stuff....
[08:52] <ryanakca> jindiaz: multiple drives... I'd google "/etc/fstab"
[08:52] <jindiaz> well no, yu helped me with fdisk getting the first drive up and runng
[08:52] <jindiaz> now im on to the second
[08:52] <v3ctor> you talking about raid or just having multiple drive on system?
[08:53] <ryanakca> jindiaz: all I usually do is findout what device it is (/dev/hda1 or /dev/hdb2 or /dev/had3 or /dev/whatever), and add an entry to /etc/fstab...
[08:53] <v3ctor> you can use `fdisk -l` to see what drives are visible
[08:54] <AljoshaNL> how can i play mp3 in kubuntu flight 6 amarok?
[08:54] <AljoshaNL> i can only play ogg
[08:54] <Aikurn> !mp3
[08:54] <dave__> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[08:54] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:54] <h3sp4wn> aptitude install amarok-xine
[08:54] <v3ctor> ogg are much better anyhow
[08:55] <solan> is there an easy way to go from ubuntu to kubuntu without reinstalling?
[08:55] <AljoshaNL> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:55] <h3sp4wn> aptitude install libxine-extracodecs
[08:55] <solan> that's it?
[08:55] <v3ctor> thats it
[08:55] <johnshaft> Hi. I just installed kubuntu-desktop. When I log into KDE none of my windows have any borders, titlebars, or buttons. Can anyone help?
[08:55] <solan> hmmm.... didn't experct it to be that easy;)
[08:56] <solan> when I install kubuntu-desktop, can I still run gnome-desktop or does it replace it completly?
[08:57] <johnshaft> You can run both.
[08:57] <AljoshaNL> jeah
[08:57] <AljoshaNL> of course :)
[08:57] <AljoshaNL> i STILL cant play mp3 in amarok
[08:58] <crimsun> which engine are you using for amarok?
[08:58] <johnshaft> I am running Gnome and it works fine. KDE has no window borders for me tho :(
[08:58] <AljoshaNL> XINE
[08:58] <solan> can I choose on boot or something? I'm not completly sure if I want to use KDE og GNOME..
[08:58] <Aikurn> have you followed the wiki page for restricted formats?
[08:58] <AljoshaNL> nope :$ just did the 2 aptitudes
[08:59] <v3ctor> johnshaft: mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.OLD
[08:59] <v3ctor> and try again
[09:00] <johnshaft> v3ctor: Thanx. I'll try that.
[09:00] <AljoshaNL> i have no libxine-extracodecs package
[09:00] <crimsun> breezy?
[09:00] <AljoshaNL> no dapper
[09:00] <crimsun> you don't multiverse enabled
[09:08] <AljoshaNL> could someone send me his/her sources.list please?
[09:09] <Aikurn> you could use http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:10] <jpatrick> !sources
[09:10] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:13] <AljoshaNL> i have it enabled and still no libxine-extracodecs
[09:13] <AljoshaNL> epinephrine: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[09:14] <epinephrine> ?
[09:14] <AljoshaNL> sorry, copy and pasta eroor
[09:14] <AljoshaNL> dont mind
[09:14] <crimsun>   Version table:
[09:14] <crimsun>      1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 0
[09:14] <crimsun>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages
[09:14] <epinephrine> ok :P
[09:14] <jpatrick> multiverse..
[09:16] <AljoshaNL> doesnt work
[09:16] <AljoshaNL> can somebody just give me a good sources.list?
[09:28] <dell500> i'm thinkin' of gettin' a seagate 300gb, SATAII internal HD... do they make USB SATAII enclosures? would it be more useful internal or could it be used as internal without much of a speed los
[09:29] <scott_> v3ctor: Tried deleting .kde didn't help with my window borders missing in KDE
[09:29] <q00p> dell500: why not just get an external SATA drive? much faster than usb
[09:30] <dell500> how does that hook up?
[09:30] <q00p> dell500: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?DEPA=0&type=&Description=sata+external&Submit=ENE&Ntk=all&N=0&minPrice=&maxPrice=&Go.x=0&Go.y=0
[09:30] <dell500> only reason why i want an external compared to the internal is so i can use it as a portable drive to distrobute music and such
[09:31] <MachineScrew> dell500: you need a sata card that has external connectors
[09:31] <v3ctor> scott_: try changing themes etc..
[09:31] <q00p> dell500: MachineScrew is right sorry ;-) but they're probably there if you can support SATAII internally
[09:31] <MachineScrew> dell500: as fast as internal
[09:32] <dell500> well i think i have 4 internal sata connectors... but not SATAII.
[09:32] <MachineScrew> dell500: there are
[09:32] <scott_> I tried that - sort of. The control panel comes up with the bottom half of the window off the screen. Since I can't move the window I can't get to the apply button
[09:32] <scott_> Is there a way to move a window in KDE without having a titlebar?
[09:32] <netkid91> Don't think so
[09:33] <netkid91> Wait, corrected myself
[09:33] <MachineScrew> scott_: hold down alt then click any where on the window and move the window
[09:33] <v3ctor> no title bar on window?
[09:33] <netkid91> Beat me to it XD
[09:33] <q00p> MachineScrew: you keep beating me to the punch ;-)
[09:33] <MachineScrew> lol
[09:33] <scott_> Nope. No titlebar. No buttons. Nada.
[09:33] <q00p> scott_: also try alt-F3 to get a control menu
[09:33] <netkid91> Scott: Try changing your window dexs in the sys settings
[09:34] <scott_> dexs?
[09:34] <v3ctor> yes
[09:34] <netkid91> *decs
[09:34] <scott_> Sorry. Still don't quite understand. What do you mean by *decs?
[09:34] <netkid91> Window Dec's = Window Decorations
[09:35] <scott_> Ahh. Ok. Thanks guys. I'll try that. Will drop off for a few mins while I log back in under KDE.
[09:36] <netkid91> Gah...stupid apt-get, my screen locked, interupted it and now I'm going through hell to fix dependincies.....Oh well...No where near as bad as when I was using RPM's, *shuuder*
[09:37] <uros> hi all! have terrible problem - was playing around with KDE to test it and somehow enabled translucency. The computer is now so slow, it is unusable. In system settings (appearance/style/effects) it is off, however still enabled, even after multiple restart. somebody help me get it off, please
[09:37] <netkid91> Uhmm....
[09:38] <netkid91> Try deleting your ~/.kde folder, if you fsck up the settings to the point of extreme error and can't fix it that is always the first thing to do(except it erases all your KDE settings),
[09:38] <uros> netkid91: after restart will it work?
[09:39] <netkid91> uros: Hell, you don't even need to reboot your machine, just log off and log back in
[09:39] <OutoLumo> menu translucency, or what kind of translucency?
[09:39] <kronoz> i installed kubuntu-desktop to my default ubuntu installation but when I start kde if I click anywhere on the kicker it will crash then reappear, right clicking show their is no log out and lock session buttons either
[09:39] <netkid91> I think it's window tansluceny
[09:39] <dell500> what's the difference between the speed of SATA and USB?
[09:40] <netkid91> A LOT
[09:40] <netkid91> USB = ~54MBS, SATA=150MBS
[09:40] <uros> i think so too - the whole windows are translucent. it looks great, but is completely unusable on this machine
[09:40] <dell500> i thought USB2.0 was like 480
[09:40] <netkid91> Nope
[09:40] <netkid91> That would be firewire, AKA IEE1394
[09:40] <netkid91> *IEEE1394
[09:41] <netkid91> SATA is still a better bet than external drives
[09:41] <OutoLumo> uros, try  System Settings -> Desktop -> Window Behavior -> translucency
[09:41] <dell500> well i'm trying to get a fast solution for backup storage
[09:42] <dell500> such as a 300 or 400gb internal converted to external to be cheaper
[09:42] <netkid91> Backup....Just set up a RAID1 array...
[09:42] <dell500> well i have a raid0 array that is holding my backup now
[09:43] <netkid91> No, no, no
[09:43] <netkid91> Raid0 = BAD
[09:43] <dell500> but i'm gonna put ubuntu/gentoo on one sata and have the other 120 sata for storage for internal, then another 120 internal ide for windows
[09:43] <dell500> ya i know lol
[09:43] <dell500> that's why i wanna get rid of it soon
[09:43] <netkid91> Just mirror your main HD to another with a RAID1 array
[09:43] <dell500> so i don't have this raid goin' anymore cause i have a lot of stuff to backup, but nowhere to put it
[09:44] <netkid91> Uhm...
[09:44] <dell500> but isn't that all that raid1 is? mirroring?
[09:44] <netkid91> Yup
[09:45] <netkid91> Since you have 3 120's you *could* set up a RAID5 array
[09:45] <dell500> cause i have 2 120 sata's right now, and i'd rather have the main os i have run faster to backup storage... ie getting satas for the whole storage process
[09:45] <uros> outolumo thanks - changed so many settings i forgot where
[09:45] <dell500> but don't the drives have to be identical
[09:45] <dell500> ie: all have to be sata or ide or something
[09:45] <netkid91> No, just ~the same size
[09:45] <dell500> oh.
[09:45] <dell500> i didn't know that
[09:46] <netkid91> Well, yeah
[09:46] <dell500> lol
[09:46] <netkid91> For hardware RAID most of the time they do
[09:46] <netkid91> Might want to check the manual for your controller
[09:46] <dell500> ya i'm using the software raid array made way back when i got these drives, and software raid doesn't work in windows (or cross platforms for that matter)
[09:47] <netkid91> You might want to move over to hardware RAID then
[09:47] <dell500> otherwise i would backup most of the stuff on DVD's and put the rest under windows or something
[09:47] <dell500> ya, i plan on it
[09:47] <dell500> more diverse i guess
[09:47] <q00p> netkid91: raid0 = fast, not bad ;-)
[09:48] <dell500> ya, raid0 isn't that bad, it's just not good to have if you haven't backed stuff up for a while
[09:48] <OutoLumo> uros, I take it that helped:-)
[09:48] <q00p> dell500: right ;-). raid0 is great for stuff that is reconstructable too (like data logs)
[09:49] <netkid91> q00p: radi0=BAD, if one disk goes, they all do!
[09:49] <netkid91> If I REALLY need to combine multiple disks I'd use RAID5, at least I have parity data to rebuild my files, with RAID0 once one dies everything is gone
[09:49] <dell500> very true
[09:50] <q00p> netkid91: yes, of course that's true. actually, raid10 is better than raid5 in terms of performance but worse in terms of storage efficiency. but raid0 is great for transient data
[09:50] <dell500> netkid, what does raid5 do?
[09:50] <_kero> how do i make my font smoth?
[09:50] <dell500> joins then mirrors?
[09:50] <netkid91> Or temp stuff
[09:50] <netkid91> But it's still not something to put important data on
[09:50] <Kero_1116> ls
[09:50] <netkid91> No
[09:50] <Kero_1116> ops
[09:50] <q00p> netkid91: and there's a lot of that. say you're mastering a DVD. you need a lot of fast storage but not for long. RAID-0 is perfect. same for session data on web applications. or web server logs. stuff like that.
[09:51] <q00p> netkid91: right exactly. unless you have backups and can spare the time to restore from backups.
[09:51] <dell500> well what do you guys recommend for me backing up my 200gb collection of music?
[09:51] <h3sp4wn> raid 5 gives you 2/3 of your space and you can lose any one disk (asuming you are using 3 which is the minimum)
[09:51] <dell500> and partly movies
[09:51] <netkid91> Raid 5 is similar to RAID0, it spreads data across multiple disks(3 or more), but on each disk it stores parity info, if one disk goes bad you can rebuild it with the parity on the others.
[09:51] <q00p> netkid91: it's also nice for a core OS build. very fast, and you can restore by reinstalling. just make sure you stick /etc/, /var, /home/, etc on a different filesystem ;-)
[09:52] <Kero_1116> How do I make my font smooth in kde?
[09:52] <q00p> but RAID-5 is much slower than RAID-0, especially for writes.
[09:52] <dell500> q00p, is that cause it needs to mirror and duplicate the data?
[09:52] <netkid91> It doesn't mirror data dell
[09:52] <q00p> no, dell500, RAID-5 doesn't mirror
[09:52] <q00p> here
[09:52] <q00p> hold up
[09:52] <dell500> what does it do
[09:53] <h3sp4wn> q00p: never noticed the difference with compaq hardware raid
[09:53] <dell500> i had a tut for raid a while back
[09:53] <dell500> but i lost it
[09:53] <q00p> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundant_array_of_independent_disks
[09:53] <dell500> ya, that's it
[09:53] <q00p> easier to post a link ;-)
[09:53] <netkid91> Kero_1116: What do you mean?
[09:54] <dell500> so q00p and netkid91 what do you recommend for a backup?
[09:54] <q00p> dell500: ;-) depends on what you're backing up
[09:54] <dell500> i've got a plextor dvd rw, but haven't really used it to burn dvds.... i've got like 40discs i can use
[09:54] <q00p> dell500: just desktop stuff?
[09:55] <dell500> q00p, music in form of FLAC, SHN, and mp3 and movies
[09:55] <netkid91> dell500: How much you wanna back up?
[09:55] <dell500> kinda ya, but mostly music and stuff
[09:55] <q00p> dell500: i love optical if your stuff will fit. ;-) lasts longer than tape, is more easily read in lots of readers
[09:55] <Kero_1116> netkid91: like the font in kde is not smooth
[09:55] <Kero_1116> it isn't good looking
[09:55] <q00p> dell500: your dvd burner is perfect for that then ;-)
[09:55] <netkid91> Kero_1116: What video card do you have?
[09:55] <dell500> All of it so i can put ubuntu on a sata drive
[09:55] <Kero_1116> i am using my laptop
[09:55] <Kero_1116> it is an intel
[09:55] <Kero_1116> 810i i think
[09:56] <q00p> dell500: or you could just buy an external usb drive, copy everything to it, and then store it at some offsite location. then just burn new files to DVD from time to time
[09:56] <netkid91> Kero_1116: Hmm....might be the drivers...
[09:56] <dell500> q00p, but won't burning like 40+ discs overload the dvd burner... and how can i make it take up all the sapce on the discs... i would need a backup utility or something
[09:56] <Kero_1116> i think it has to do with changing resolution of font
[09:56] <netkid91> Kero_1116: What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[09:56] <Kero_1116> kubuntu 5.10
[09:56] <dell500> q00p, that's what i was thinking of doing, be much more hassle free and less work on my already working parts :)
[09:56] <netkid91> OK, let me think...
[09:56] <q00p> dell500: no, you won't overload the DVD burner, just keep it relatively cool (room temperature)
[09:57] <Kero_1116> how do i edit a txt file using gui interface in kde?
[09:57] <q00p> dell500: use a nice backup program. or just start dragging and dropping into k3b ;-)
[09:57] <robotgeek> use kate Kero_1116
[09:57] <netkid91> Also Kero, what resolution are you on, and what DPI are the fonts?
[09:57] <dell500> lol q00p
[09:58] <Kero_1116> sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:58] <q00p> Kero_1116: why not open /var/log/xorg.log and read through it? sounds like your resolution is too low for your laptop screen. is your laptop a wide screen or anything weird?
[09:58] <Kero_1116> forgot the command for gui, instead of sudo
[09:58] <dell500> anyone ever heard of the company MicroNet?
[09:58] <netkid91> kdesu
[09:58] <robotgeek> Kero_1116: kdesu kate /path/t/file.txt
[09:58] <Kero_1116> thanks
[09:58] <netkid91> np
[09:59] <MachineScrew> 33333333333333333333333w
[09:59] <netkid91> Dang...this dist-upgrade is taking a while...
[09:59] <MachineScrew> damn kat likes to type
[09:59] <dell500> lol
[10:01] <netkid91> I got 3 cats....Nothing new to me machine
[10:03] <netkid91> I wonder if the ATI drives will work in dapper.....
[10:03] <netkid91> *drivers...
[10:05] <calvarez> en donde me bajo el automatix
[10:05] <MachineScrew> netkid91: one day
[10:06] <ninHer> calvarez:  http://beerorkid.com/automatix
[10:06] <MachineScrew> !automatix
[10:06] <ubotu> well, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[10:06] <Tm_T> !easyubuntu
[10:06] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[10:07] <Tm_T> this thing is clear: big NO! to automatix, easyubuntu is somewhat replacing it much safer way
[10:07] <calvarez> thank
[10:08] <calvarez> como configuro openoffice2 en espaol en kubuntu
[10:08] <Tm_T> !es
[10:08] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:08] <Tm_T> or use english
[10:09] <MachineScrew> ya what Tm_T said
[10:10] <dell500> what kind of HDs should I steer clear for?
[10:10] <MachineScrew> none realy
[10:10] <calvarez> thank
[10:10] <MachineScrew> they all work pretty well in linux
[10:11] <dell500> well i've had problems with WD i think... i'm not sure
[10:11] <dell500> that's why i ask... more of a personal question than general one
[10:12] <MachineScrew> WD is good so is Maxtor but my dads IBM drives are failing
[10:12] <MachineScrew> also there are drives with 5yr warrenty
[10:12] <MachineScrew> or 3 yr warenty
[10:12] <dell500> well i could get a maxtor internal and just get the enclosure for less than $200 i think
[10:12] <dell500> i love seagate, ime
[10:12] <MachineScrew> so get those stear clear of 1 year warrenty
[10:13] <calvarez> openoffice2 in spanish
[10:13] <calvarez> how to
[10:15] <MachineScrew> calvarez: run sudo apt-get install language-support-es openoffice.org-l10n-es openoffice.org-help-es myspell-es
[10:16] <dell500> what's the program that tells you what's running and how much cpu/memory it's using?
[10:16] <MachineScrew> dell500: top
[10:16] <Bobrownik> is there an app in linux to test the cpu stability , like prime95 in windows or something like that ?
[10:17] <MachineScrew> Bobrownik: make the kernel with make -j3
[10:17] <MachineScrew> but thats kinda over kill
[10:18] <MachineScrew> Bobrownik: yes sudo apt-get cpuburn or stress
[10:18] <Bobrownik> im a newb , i have no clue about anything to do with kernel
[10:19] <MachineScrew> well the last command will get you the progam to do it without involving the kernel besides i was jk
[10:19] <Bobrownik> ok , ill try the cpu burn , thank you
[10:19] <MachineScrew> Bobrownik: thats all one word now
[10:19] <Bobrownik> k
[10:31] <jarlath> Does anyone that has tried Kubuntu Dapper think that its worth the upgrade? I have a pretty solid Breezy system, but wireless networking doesnt roam and hibernate doesnt work.
[10:31] <robotgeek> jarlath: well, don't upgrade right away then
[10:37] <Ferdinand98324> how can I do a screenshoot without using ksnapshot in kubuntu breezy?
[10:37] <Ferdinand98324> there's any hotkey?
[10:37] <Tonio_> Ferdinand98324: print screen :)
[10:37] <Tonio_> Ferdinand98324: if you're using dapper only
[10:38] <Ferdinand98324> well, I'm using breezy :(
[10:38] <Ferdinand98324> and it doesn't work
[10:38] <DiL> you can define your hotkeys and use ksnapshot
[10:39] <Ferdinand98324> well, I was trying to not use it, but no prob...
[10:39] <Ferdinand98324> how can I play wma or wav files under kaffeine?
[10:40] <Ferdinand98324> I search for the codecs
[10:40] <MachineScrew> print screen key is maped to it
[10:40] <Tonio_> MachineScrew: with dapper only
[10:40] <MachineScrew> !wma
[10:40] <Ferdinand98324> but I get no results
[10:40] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:41] <MachineScrew> Ferdinand98324: you need w32codecs
[10:41] <joey^^> How do you select a mixer device in kbuntu? I have onboard and sound card. I tried to use kmix but i don't think it actually selects the mixer device for the entire system. In gnome i just used the volume control app to select the mixer device and it worked.
[10:42] <MachineScrew> in control panel there is Sound and Multimedia
[10:42] <joey^^> i looked in there, but that didn't work either
[10:42] <MachineScrew> there is a hardware tab
[10:43] <MachineScrew> there you can select what card you want
[10:43] <Excaliber> Hello
[10:43] <joey^^> in ubuntu all i did was go into the volume control and did file->select device and changed to my audigy
[10:44] <MachineScrew> ya I know but kde is a little differnet
[10:44] <joey^^> MachineScrew: i tried every setting in there, none work
[10:44] <MachineScrew> joey^^: why do you have 2 sound cards anyway
[10:45] <joey^^> MachineScrew: well, i have two mixer devices, onboard ac'97 intell chipset and a audigy 2 zs card i installed manually
[10:45] <Excaliber> Hello everyone.
[10:45] <MachineScrew> thats a laptop card ?
[10:46] <joey^^> MachineScrew: they both work fine in ubuntu and gentoo, but i can't seem to get any output from kbuntu :(
[10:46] <MachineScrew> hmm
[10:46] <joey^^> na, it's a standard pci
[10:46] <MachineScrew> on a desktop so it should be possible to turn off the intel card in the BIOS
[10:47] <MachineScrew> unless you need it
[10:47] <joey^^> well, normally all you do is a select a mixer device for the system
[10:47] <MachineScrew> if you need it well damn I never had to use 2 cards
[10:47] <joey^^> and it uses that
[10:47] <joey^^> i only have one card, the intel ac'97 is on the motherboard
[10:47] <MachineScrew> um
[10:48] <jarlath> robotgeek: thanks.
[10:48] <Excaliber> Does anyone need any help?
[10:48] <MachineScrew> well the other thing is open alsa mixer
[10:48] <Excaliber> ?
[10:48] <MachineScrew> or to install another program to control the two mixers
[10:49] <MachineScrew> but because I don't my self have 2 cards installed I can't helpp
[10:49] <Excaliber> = \
[10:49] <MachineScrew> have you tried this in other KDE systems
[10:49] <joey^^> i openned alsamixer, but the problem is that kde tries to take over the sound system just like gnome
[10:49] <MachineScrew> or just GNOME
[10:49] <Excaliber> Nice try MachineScrew
[10:49] <MachineScrew> damn
[10:50] <Excaliber> Are you trying to play something?
[10:50] <MachineScrew> because #kde might have an answer
[10:50] <Excaliber> joey^^, whats the problem?
[10:50] <MachineScrew> Excaliber: he has 2 sound cards one onboard the other pci
[10:50] <Excaliber> Hmm.
[10:50] <jarlath> I've just noticed that kmplayer isn't in the repos. Thats pretty surprising for a kde based distro.
[10:50] <Excaliber> And what doesn he want to do?
[10:50] <Excaliber> does*
[10:50] <MachineScrew> Excaliber: and he wants to control both cards
[10:51] <Excaliber> Why would he do that?
[10:51] <Excaliber> Just use one.
[10:51] <Excaliber> = \
[10:51] <MachineScrew> Excaliber: with Kmix
[10:51] <joey^^> Excaliber: i can't get any output from my sound card under kbuntu
[10:51] <MachineScrew> that what I asked
[10:51] <Excaliber> Hmm.
[10:51] <Excaliber> Did you try testing your sound?
[10:52] <joey^^> well it all works fine using ubuntu and gentoo
[10:52] <joey^^> only kbuntu wont output any sound
[10:52] <Excaliber> Test the sound on kubuntu
[10:52] <MachineScrew> Excaliber: in other words gnome
[10:52] <Excaliber> system>settings>sound system or something like that
[10:52] <joey^^> i don't get any sound, thats my point
[10:52] <joey^^> yep, i tried all that
[10:52] <joey^^> nothing
[10:52] <Excaliber> Hmm.
[10:53] <joey^^> no sound, i think it's trying to use my onboard sound
[10:53] <joey^^> thats why
[10:53] <MachineScrew> right
[10:53] <joey^^> i tried using kmix to select my audigy mixer device
[10:53] <MachineScrew> did you try pluging in speakers to the onboard card
[10:53] <joey^^> but i don't think that actually selects the device for the sysem
[10:53] <joey^^> system*
[10:53] <joey^^> ye, i could try that
[10:54] <MachineScrew> ya but that would tell you one is working
[10:54] <joey^^> ye, i'm gonna have to disc to unravel all these wires
[10:55] <joey^^> brb
[10:58] <Excaliber> Why don't you reinstall kde
[10:59] <joey^^> yep, as i thought works
[10:59] <joey^^> it's trying to use my onboard mixer
[10:59] <Excaliber> Hmm.
[10:59] <Excaliber> Nice job.
[10:59] <joey^^> kmix wont select my audigy device
[11:01] <joey^^> in gnome i just did volume control file-.select device and changed to my audigy and it worked fine
[11:01] <Excaliber> Hmm.
[11:01] <joey^^> i can't see a way to do the same thing in kbuntu though
[11:01] <Excaliber> well kde is way different from gnome
[11:02] <joey^^> kmixer doesn't allow you to change mixer device and the multimedia system settings doesn't have a mixer device selection
[11:02] <joey^^> so i'm stumped :(
[11:02] <Excaliber> hmm.
[11:08] <Excaliber> Hello.
[11:08] <Excaliber> Anyone else need help?
[11:08] <joey^^> yes... :/
[11:09] <joey^^> ok, looks like im going back to ubuntu
[11:12] <m_tadeu> good night everyone...after installing kubuntu5.1 amd64 my pcmcia modem don't seem to work
[11:14] <m_tadeu> does anyone know if there is a problem with the pcmcia or serial driver in kernel 2.6.12?
[11:25] <harleypig> I just upgraded to Dapper on a dual core amd64 athlon system.
[11:26] <harleypig> I can't seem to get x working again.
[11:26] <harleypig> basically, startx starts then hangs.  I have an nvidia card
[11:28] <harleypig> using "nv" driver appears to be working corectly ...
[11:33] <Ferdinand98324> I've installed w32codecs but I can't play WMV files, I tried installing xine plugin to kaffeine
[11:33] <Ferdinand98324> but kaffeine is still saying "can't finde the decoder"
[11:34] <Ferdinand98324> when kaffeine starts it says that w32 has been installed successfully, and all other libraries
[11:34] <Ferdinand98324> what can I do for playing .WMV files under kaffeine?
[11:34] <Ferdinand98324> the same happens with .WAV files
[11:35] <Kev1n> Ferdinand98324 i will be watching for an answer as I have exactly the same problem
[11:36] <paulvolk> Hey Guys
[11:36] <Kev1n> :)
[11:37] <Ferdinand98324> Kevin, how can I send that red private message? :s
[11:37] <paulvolk> I have a question, When I installed my system it never came kynaptic instead a program called adept. Should I install kynaptic and use it or just stick with adept?
[11:37] <Kev1n> adpt is very good
[11:37] <Kev1n> adept is excellent
[11:38] <paulvolk> so just stick with it?
[11:38] <Kev1n> ferninado98234: i dont understand your question
[11:38] <Kev1n> paulvolk: yes mate
[11:39] <Ferdinand98324> someone have any idea about working with WMV files under kaffine?...I got correctly installed w32codecs
[11:39] <paulvolk> ok thanks
[11:40] <Sergi0> Ferdinand98324: you could try vlc, it runs alot, its somewhere in the repro's
[11:42] <Ferdinand98324> sergio, do u mean the VLC player
[11:43] <Ferdinand98324> ?
[11:43] <Ferdinand98324> I solved my KDE 3.5.2 problem yesterday XD
[11:43] <Ferdinand98324> :D
[11:44] <mvv> what's the easy way of converting a second (NTFS) harddisk to linux a filesystem?
[11:47] <Sergi0> mvv: u know cfdisk? in terminal, use that, it does wonders :)
[11:47] <Sergi0> mvv: oh converting... hmm
[11:47] <Sergi0> mvv: just get the data out of there what u need, then repartition it, set it back after that? thats the easy way
[11:47] <mvv> Sergi0: no the data may delete (no i only know fdisk)
[11:48] <Sergi0> mvv: may what? its okay to delete or not?
[11:48] <mvv> yes i have put the data on another computer already :)
[11:49] <mvv> can i just do mkfs.ext3?
[11:49] <harleypig> well, on the plus side, it seems I can now use my wireless card with smp enabled
[11:49] <harleypig> but I can't seem to get nvidia to work under smp.
[11:49] <harleypig> (this is under Dapper)
[11:49] <Sergi0> mvv: you can use that after you partition the disk yes
[11:49] <harleypig> anyone know of anything I can do?
[11:51] <mvv> okey, thanks Sergi0, i think i know what todo and with some manpage reading i'll get there probably... (and if not i'll scream here again, lol )
[11:52] <Sergi0> mvv: yeah, its not that hard, gl!
[11:56] <Ferdinand98324> I can't play mp3
[11:56] <Ferdinand98324> under xmms either :(
[11:57] <Sergi0> Ferdinand98324: check the forums or wiki, there should be alot of info about it
[11:58] <Sergi0> hi mvv :)
[11:59] <mvv> hi (my modem in unstable ;( )
[12:02] <Ferdinand98324> hi wmv :(
[12:03] <mvv> when i do cfdisk /dev/sdb i get: FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive Press any key to exit cfdisk
[12:04] <mvv> oh, shoot me
[12:04] <mvv> works, sry