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Petrsadbfl: the "login name" vs. "email address" is now bug 3981412:32
UbugtuMalone bug 39814 in launchpad "Misleading login hint" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3981412:32
Petrand to the issue with pre-filling wrong password: yes, its browser depandat. If I dissable remembering passwords, all goes normal. (name and password will empty)12:34
mdkethat's still a bug12:34
Petrwell, but i browser. and he is not bale to detect it12:35
Petrtypo, "in browser"12:35
mdkeit's certainly a bug, most people will ask it to remember the password, I know I did12:36
mdkeand I _think_ it doesn't happen on regular moin wiki's, so it might be caused by our hack12:36
Petrwhen auth fails, server would need to send javascript to remove password's content on body onload. and this is too heavy I think12:37
Petrok, I'll fill it12:38
mdkesabdfl left, so subscribe him to the bug or something12:38
mdkeor mail hi12:38
mdkem12:38
Petranyway, is anyone missing logout button? aparently user is not able to logou the wiki, ubnless he deletes the cookie12:39
mdkelogout from the UserPreferences page12:40
Petrmdke: nope, there is no "logout". I have even searched for "log" and lookend at all pictures on the UserPreferences12:45
mdkePetr, there is dude. It's under the preferences, next to "save"12:46
Petroh, i got it12:46
Petrthank you12:46
mdkenp12:47
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Petrmdke: i have tried 3 sites and all exhibit the same behawiour. So I do not think that it is a bug worth reporting.01:25
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kikocatch you all later01:25
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Petrbye01:44
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sabdflhey mpt03:10
mptGooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!03:29
mptHi sabdfl 03:29
sabdflmpt: happy easter!03:32
mptthanks, and likewise03:34
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sabdflhey stub04:55
stubsabdfl: Morning04:56
sabdflstub: https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/fileKuIr4c.html04:57
stubOk. For your blueprint work to land Tuesday? I wanted to avoid a full rollout this week to give more of a chance for any Zope3.2 issues to fall out.04:57
sabdflstub: land in production tuesday?04:57
stubYes04:57
stubErm... Tuesday week04:57
sabdfloh04:57
sabdflnot great04:57
sabdflwant to get summer-of-code specs coming in04:58
sabdfland need blueprint in better shape, with benefit of this weekends landings04:58
sabdflare you expecting 3.2 issues?04:58
stubok. I'll do a full push late Tuesday.04:58
stubWe already found one, which Bjorn fixed.04:58
sabdflfinding them on staging?04:59
stubIts just a large amount of changes04:59
sabdflor just through general banging-on-it-under-development?04:59
sabdflright04:59
sabdflok, perhaps its worth holding off04:59
stubI think Brad found it on his local box04:59
sabdflscary04:59
sabdflto find something local that's not showing up in tests04:59
stubIt was a Z3.2 bug05:00
sabdflgood job bradb, in that case05:01
stubSo technically our tests shouldn't have been checking for it (the Zope 3.2 one should have, and indeed, there was already an open bug report on it. Bjorn added a workaround upstream, but the real bug is still in there as fixing it will probably cause breakage)05:01
sabdflcan you look over that db patch so i can renumber and send it off to pqm?05:02
stubyup05:02
sabdflthanks05:02
stubSo a product series milestone is also a product milestone?05:03
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sabdflstub: yes, same milestone, just now connected to the series AND the product05:07
sabdflthe latter part of the db patch tries to set as many series / distroreleases as possible on the milestones05:07
sabdflon the basis that, if there is only one series / distrorelease, rock on05:07
stubsabdfl: ok - that all looks good. patch-40-49-0.sql pending comments.sql updates ;)05:07
sabdflthen there are some pages that will let me fix all the remaining ones manaually05:07
sabdflah05:07
sabdflyes05:08
sabdflok :-)05:08
sabdflCOMMENT ON COLUMN Milestone.distrorelease IS 'The distrorelease for which this is a milestone.';05:09
sabdflCOMMENT ON COLUMN Milestone.productseries IS 'The productseries for which this is a milestone.';05:09
sabdflok?05:09
sabdflstub?05:10
stubCOMMENT ON COLUMN Milestone.distrorelease IS 'The distrorelease for which this is a milestone. Milestones for a distrorelease are always milestones for the corresponding distribution.'05:11
sabdflok05:11
stub(which describes the constraints in english)05:12
sabdfldone05:13
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stub32 degrees broken clouds my arse05:50
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sivangmornint all09:23
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mptjamesh, got time for a ~50-line review?09:39
mptor lifeless?09:41
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jameshmpt: okay09:52
mptjamesh, https://chinstrap.warthogs.hbd.com/~dsilvers/paste/fileyYAfK6.html09:55
mptMuch of it is SVG stuff that can be ignored09:55
jameshthat email address in logintoken.py should really be in the config file ...09:56
jamesh(but I won't make you change it personally)09:57
jameshmpt: it mostly looks okay, but I have a question about the stuff under lib/contrib/dynarch-resources09:59
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jameshmpt: is that stuff that we've imported into the tree verbatim (and so we might want to pull in new versions in the future), or is it stuff that is okay to modify?10:00
mptjamesh, we've pulled in the minimum files to make the current menu work, in the expectation that it will be replaced with something better10:00
mptand the CSS already has one change Steve made10:01
jameshmpt: okay.  In that case I'm fine with the changes.10:01
mptthanks!10:01
jameshit'd be good to have something that doesn't break middle click, "open in new window" and similar10:01
mptyes10:02
mptthat'll be part of why we're replacing it :-)10:02
mptThat, and windows jumping to the front whenever they finish loading10:02
jameshalso, having non-obfuscated javascript is nice :)10:03
mptand having open-source-able JavaScript is also nice10:04
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dilysMerge to devel/launchpad/: [r=jamesh]  De-aquafies the menu bar, and fixes the menu's 404 errors. Cleans up Launchpad's welcome e-mail message. Fixes bug 3273 (Confusing signup language), bug 39295 (+teamlist page has two headings), and bug 39318 (Bug listing font size is too small). (r3474: Matthew Paul Thomas)10:38
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mptjamesh, https://launchpad.net/projects/launchpad/+bugs rocks, thanks for implementing it :-)10:55
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highvoltagehi there.12:58
highvoltageanyone willing to help me with starting translations for a product in launchpad?12:58
highvoltagei've imported the .po files, and chose that rosetta manages the translation12:59
highvoltagebut i don't know what to do from there.12:59
lifelessjordi is your man01:02
lifelessjordi: ^^01:02
dilysMerge to devel/launchpad/: [trivial]  move milestones towards series (r3475: Mark Shuttleworth)01:21
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OdyXHey all. Wondering why I'm translating koffice, as my local version is translated... Template not updated yet ? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/koffice/+pots/koffice/fr/+translate02:07
ruffneckque ?02:08
OdyXruffneck: koffice IS in french, but unstranslated in Launchpad...02:09
OdyXI can try to find the .po for koffice and upload it...02:09
ruffneckI'm really not sure about translation.. you translate another meaningless word to another which has no real resemblance or intention in real physical world02:09
OdyXruffneck: ???02:09
ruffneckI can't help my mom with her windows on the phone because she has translated version I have no clue about...02:10
OdyXruffneck: it's not at all what I'm speaking you about...02:10
ruffneckI know02:10
ruffneckplease translate.. somebody likes it02:11
OdyXruffneck: Hum... Koffice IS translated... My version here IS in french.02:12
OdyXI just want not to make the work twice.02:12
ruffneckoh.. 02:12
OdyXSo I'm wondering if the *.po will be uploaded or if I should do it...02:12
OdyXThe translation (i18nisation) IS ever made (KDE guys)... But not up2date in Launchpad.02:13
OdyXAnd people (like me) are beginning to translate it AGAIN => probable differences with KDE's version...02:15
OdyXand work is made twice.02:15
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ruffneckhmm.. I did 2% of translation into Finnish ;P don't know if it is a good idea or not ;D02:20
stubIts not that I don't love you. It is gaim just crashing :-P02:20
OdyXruffneck: check if Koffice is ever translated 02:20
OdyXCould somebody tell me what to do that about? upload *.po from kde's svn 02:21
OdyX?02:21
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ruffneckthose translation will be funny when you translate sentences out of context :D02:33
ruffneckdone 5% ;D02:34
OdyXruffneck: you'd better stop... and wait for po's upload.02:34
ruffneckpo's what? 02:35
ruffneckpo ?02:35
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OdyXfiles with translations....02:36
ruffneckI guess they will overwrite ;P02:36
OdyXruffneck: so why don't ya stop ?02:39
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cprovgood morning, dudes, someone can tell me what is wrong with pqm ? is the web UI error known ?02:43
lifelessif its multicoloured02:43
stubHmm.. never seenn that before02:43
lifelessthen someone sent a emai with invalid RFC2822 formatting in the commit message02:44
lifelessknown defect02:44
lifelessits a bug in the pqm-submit plugin02:44
cprovlifeless: that was me, for sure :(02:44
lifelessalways be sure to do 'bzr pqm-submit -m 'message' 02:44
stubDoes it clear itself after the job completes?02:45
lifelessyes02:45
OdyXSo. Finally uploaded koffice.po for french.02:45
stubbzr pqm-submit... hmm... first I've heard of it.02:45
stubunknown command02:45
lifelesssee the bzr plugins wiki page02:46
cprovlifeless: haven't heard about that too, using shell script yet, will look on it, thank you02:47
stublifeless: Launchpad wiki?02:47
lifelessstub: bzr wiki!02:48
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cprovlifeless: see the message (redirect to me intead of pqm) -> https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/fileCOq48C.html . What's wrong ?02:49
stublaunchpad wiki still documents using the script02:50
rcaskey_howdy everyone. I was wondering, has there been any thought about having launchpad provide an openid server?02:50
stubI guess we need a designated victim as James was updating that stuff02:50
ruffneckOdyX: did I say I continued?02:52
ruffneckthe translation sucks anyway.. so don't take it too seriously :P02:52
OdyXruffneck: OK :D02:53
ruffneckI don't know how anybody can translate those lines when they are out of context. It is source for usability problems02:54
dilysMerge to devel/launchpad/: [r=bjornt]  Fixes for dak-tools and soyuz (r3476: Celso Providelo, Daniel Silverstone)02:55
lifelesscprov: related issues: bug #36022 (support full suite cmdline option for02:55
lifelesschange-override), bug # 37156 (do not require component option for02:55
lifelesschange-override), bug #39148 (removed unused and untested file from02:55
lifelessarchivepublisher module), bug #38636 (uploader extra check on duplicated02:55
lifelessfilenames), bug #39281 (swallowing spurious output from test)02:55
UbugtuMalone bug 36022 in qprocd "change-override can't handle pockets" [Major,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3602202:55
UbugtuMalone bug 38636 in qprocd "xfce4-mixer has a different orig.tar.gz to the  one recorded in the Sources file" [Critical,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3863602:55
UbugtuMalone bug 39281 in launchpad "/doc/zzz-soyuz-set-of-uploads.txt system doc test extremly noisy" [Normal,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3928102:55
lifelessthat stuff there02:55
lifelesscprov: its not part of the recognized pqm commands02:55
lifelesscprov: and it is part of your commit message.02:55
ruffneckit's also controversial when system should speak the user language and not developer jargon, but when refering to certain items you have to speak in exact case in order to avoid confusion02:56
cprovlifeless: uhm .. script is broken02:56
ruffnecksome words or strings should never be translated02:56
lifelesscommit messages to PQM must be one line only02:57
ruffneckstrings of characters.. 02:57
stubIsn't that the subject header? The header can be split into multiple lines by mailers and relays (and combined back to a single line at the destination)02:58
lifelessstub: yes. The script has not used RFC2822 continuations02:59
lifelessif it had PQM would see a single line commit message03:01
lifeless\n in headers is an encoding tool, not a content character.03:01
lifelessbecause it wasn't encoded correctly, the garbage lines got considered part of the body by the first MTA.03:02
lifelessnight all03:02
stubnight03:03
cprovlifeless: good night and thank you03:04
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dilysMerge to devel/launchpad/: [trivial]  Ensure email is sent as utf-8 encoding, not utf8, which violates RFCs (r3477: Stuart Bishop)03:41
cprovstub: ping03:44
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stubcprov: pong04:15
cprovstub: didn't get your point on last message about buildd system defect, do you have any additional info ?04:17
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stubcprov: No - just stating what happened and what I did. Seemed to be working afterwards.04:18
cprovstub: yes, I don't think I can do anything w/o knowing the defect, anyway, well done, thank you04:20
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sabdflstub: when are you planning that full rollout? tuesday?04:58
sabdfltomorrow?04:58
sabdflor still keen to defer?04:58
stubsabdfl: I was thinking Tuesday late my time. I was going to discuss it with Kiko if he came online04:59
stubZ3.2 seems solid enough to run with if we need to04:59
jordihi!05:20
jordihmm, late for highvoltage.05:21
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OdyXHey all... Some questions...07:03
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OdyXCanonical claims to use FLOSS, no?07:05
OdyXSo what's that ? https://launchpad.net/%40%40/dynarch/hmenu.js (totally unreadable, though)07:05
OdyXBizarre license, totally unreadable code...07:06
OdyXAnd I'm trying to solve (on Launchpad's side) the bug 39312, but hte work seems hard...07:06
UbugtuMalone bug 39312 in konqueror "BAD tab comportements in Launchpad (and others)" [Normal,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3931207:06
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rcaskey_is launchpad's list of users stored in ldap or postgres?07:25
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zulhi guys, is it possible to merge zulcss and zul. I dont have access to the email address for zul anymore.08:22
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OdyXCould someone answer my questions, please?08:31
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OdyXOK. I've made a patch to be applied to one of the .js from Launchpad...08:57
OdyXWhat's the name of the binary ?08:57
zygaOdyX: ?09:20
zygaOdyX: what binary09:20
OdyXI'm working on bug 39312 on Launchpad's side.09:20
UbugtuMalone bug 39312 in konqueror "BAD tab comportements in Launchpad (and others)" [Normal,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3931209:20
OdyXBecause I hardly believe this is no konqueror bug...09:20
OdyXSo I downloaded @@/dynarch/hmenu.js, beautifed it and found someting09:21
OdyXI have an indented version that should solve that bug without touching to Konqueror nor hardly to Launchpad zyga09:21
zygaOdyX: back to my question, what binary?09:22
OdyXzyga: the entry in Launchpad I should submit my version to...09:22
OdyXzyga: I mean: who should I submit my version to? certainly not on "kdebase konqueror", but then in "launchpad" ?09:23
zygahmm, if you fixed a part of launchpad then there is none09:23
OdyXzyga: OK.... 09:23
OdyXSo how ?09:23
zygaI don't really know how one can submit stuff to rosetta /launchpad which are not open source09:24
OdyXThis is crazy, isn't it ??09:24
zygaask carlos, he'll help you probably09:24
OdyXOK.09:24
OdyXHe's not here :->09:25
OdyXwhat's his Launchpad name ?09:26
zygaI dont know really09:26
OdyXwell...09:26
zygahe works here daily09:26
OdyXOK.09:26
zygajust wait till tomorrow I guess09:26
OdyXLet's look for a heavy karma :D09:26
OdyXOK. I will wait. Thanks for attention!09:28
OdyXOK. Found. Writing my mail.09:28
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kikoahoy hackers09:37
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sivangahoy kiko 10:11
kikohey sivan10:11
zulhey kiko10:11
kikohey zul 10:11
zulare you one of the launchpad admins? i probably emailed you already...10:12
kikozul, ah, I saw your request from yesterday10:13
zulok 10:13
kikozul, I'll only be able to tend to it tomorrow10:14
zulkiko: sure no problem..10:14
OdyXkiko: I have a "patch" for you..10:14
kikoOdyX, with bug number?10:14
OdyXkiko: it's on launchpad...10:14
OdyXkiko on https://launchpad.net/%40%40/dynarch/hmenu.js10:15
OdyXkiko: it would solve 39312 (and its duplicate)10:15
OdyXI have a modified (and indented) version here and it stilll works with both Konqueror and Firefox.10:15
OdyXkiko: do you find reasonnable to have a 30 kiB JS for a menu ? I find that HUGE !10:17
kikoOdyX, uhm, okay, slowly this time10:20
kikoso a) I'm not very familiar with his the JS menus work10:20
kikob) 30kB is huge, but it's cached by the client, so we only really transfer it once10:20
OdyXkiko: I understand a) very well.... seen how big the JS is.10:20
kikoc) what does your modified version do?10:20
OdyXkiko: just avoid asking the focus.10:21
kikoasking the focus?10:21
OdyXkiko: yep... Every Launchpad page asks the focus when opened (and touched by that JS)10:21
kikoreally? that's unfortunate10:22
kikookay. 10:22
kikohere's my suggestion: email mpt and stevea, CC: launchpad-users10:22
OdyXmpt and steeva ?10:22
kikothey are the ones behind the original JS and are most likely to be able to take care of your request10:22
kikompt and SteveA yes10:22
SteveAOdyX: hi.  that JS stuff will be entirely removed and replaced within the next few weeks10:24
OdyXSteveA: OK... That's not a bad idea I think...10:25
SteveAi agree with you about the problems with the size and its functionality10:25
OdyXSteveA: so no need for an e-mail and for last two hours identation :D10:25
SteveAbasically, it's a proprietory thing that we're using as an interim measure10:25
SteveAbut i'll be glad to receive your improvements to it, so long as you understand that it'll be entirely replaced soon10:26
OdyXSteveA: I was even concerned about that aspect...10:26
OdyXSteveA: no worry at all...10:26
OdyXat least I can close some bugs and improve Konqueror's user's experience with Launchpad :>10:26
SteveAcool10:27
OdyXSteveA: a little more test on Konqueror would be appreciated next time :D10:27
OdyXSteveA: and I'm disponible for beta-testing if wanted.10:28
SteveAthat's great10:28
SteveAmail me, and i'll get in touch when we're working on the new thing10:28
SteveAsteve at ubuntu.com10:28
kikoOdyX, when the new thing gets landed on staging, well, it's the best place to test10:28
OdyXOK! That's the things I excepted to hear!10:29
OdyXSteveA: Sent. As I now see, the comments I putted are not adapted, but the script should work "as is" in at least Konqui & Firefox.10:33
SteveAOdyX: thanks.  maybe you want to mail the author of dynarch with your fix also10:35
SteveAthere's a URL in the .js file10:35
OdyXSteveA: do they pay ? :D10:35
SteveAno idea.  you can ask them ;-)10:36
OdyXI will...10:37
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