[12:00] <Warbo> fredl: Well do you have GLCore in your modules section of xorg.conf?
[12:00] <fredl> Warbo - according to dpkg -l I'm using version ii  xorg-driver-fglrx                      6.9.0-8.23.7+2.6.15.8-1
[12:00] <Henry_Bean> hi, anyone knows some irc channel for linux palm users?
[12:00] <NickGarvey> mwe: yes 64, yes theres something one second (grandparents just left
[12:01] <nickrud> vars, I just read a way to use wine & firefox to see flash 8 on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:01] <Warbo> fredl: Erm.... fglrx is for ATI cards, not NVidia!
[12:01] <NickGarvey> mwe: zv6000
[12:01] <ateves> hi! i installed and set up proftpd as daemon. works fine, i can connect form outside, but ftpwho tells me that no users are connected, why?
[12:01] <fredl> Warbo - ehrm... sorry :P
[12:01] <NickGarvey> mwe: 0000:03:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[12:01] <mwe> NickGarvey: yeah does lsmod|grep bcm show anything?
[12:02] <fredl> Warbo - I think things broke on me when I installed kubuntu-desktop
[12:02] <Warbo> fredl: Was that the problem sorted, or did you just give me wrong info?
[12:02] <thiago_> Warbo, I think this part resumes everything (I translated it): "W: It wasn't possible to check the list of packages http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 files or directories not found)"
[12:02] <fredl> Warbo - I gave you the wrong info.
[12:02] <NickGarvey> mwe: yes, I pasted it
[12:02] <Warbo> fredl: kubuntu-desktop shouldn't do anything to Xorg. Kubuntu is the same as Ubuntu, same repos but different packages on the disc
[12:02] <SioN> ok?
[12:03] <fredl> Warbo - I have an ATI card, the driver seems to work when I just start up 'X'. gdm also comes up, but when I log in in gdm, the menu gets build up to some unpredictable point and then restarts, it keeps trying to restart
[12:03] <Warbo> thiago try "ls /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages"
[12:04] <Warbo> fredl: Menu? The gnome-panel menu? Kicker menu? what?
[12:04] <mwe> NickGarvey: where did you paste the output of lsmod|grep bcm?
[12:04] <thiago_> Warbo, it didn't find it
[12:04] <fredl> Warbo - the gnome panel menu
[12:04] <zomi> can anyone tell me the name of the channel for graphics hardware Ubuntu issues
[12:04] <NickGarvey> mwe: 0000:03:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[12:04] <Warbo> thiago: OK, so we now know what the problem is.
[12:04] <zomi> allo simon
[12:04] <mwe> NickGarvey: that's from lsmod?
[12:05] <mwe> NickGarvey: isn't that from lspci?
[12:05] <Warbo> fredl: OK, how about this "built up"? What does that mean exactly?
[12:05] <NickGarvey> mwe: haha silly me one second
[12:05] <thiago_> Warbo, this directory SHOULD exist?
[12:06] <fredl> Warbo - can I msg you a piece of output that I see when I simply run startx without gdm running?
[12:06] <NickGarvey> http://pastebin.com/663852
[12:06] <vars> nickrud, i dind't see anything about wine on that link
[12:06] <NickGarvey> mwe: http://pastebin.com/663852
[12:06] <Warbo> thiago: OK, this may be a bit of a bodge, but try "sudo touch /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages" then "sudo chmod 755 /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages"
[12:06] <mwe> NickGarvey: oh yeah. like I thought. that one is conflicting with ndisrapper I think
[12:06] <Warbo> fredl: I find startx doesn't work well with GNOME at all, only simple window managers like E or FluxBox
[12:07] <vars> is macromedia shockwave the sema as flash 8?
[12:07] <mwe> NickGarvey: sudo modprobe -r bcm43xx
[12:07] <Warbo> vars: No. Flash 8 is for 2D stuff, shockwae is basic 3D
[12:07] <NickGarvey> mwe: ok now that command returned nothing
[12:07] <fredl> Warbo - hmmm.
[12:07] <thiago_> Warbo, nothing happened
[12:07] <mwe> NickGarvey: good
[12:07] <mwe> NickGarvey: lsmod, is it gone?
[12:07] <Warbo> vars: Flash 7 works fine, and 8 is just an update. I don;t think shockwave works at all on Linux (except for WINE)
[12:08] <NickGarvey> mwe: yes, that returned nothing
[12:08] <mwe> NickGarvey: good
[12:08] <digitalwizdom> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138405&highlight=automatrix
[12:08] <Warbo> thiago: Yes that's fine. Basically you've just made an empty file there. Now try "sudo apt-get update"
[12:08] <DeMoNSeED> nope, shockwave still not on nix
[12:08] <mwe> NickGarvey: now reload ndiswrapper. modprobe -r ndiswrapper && modprobe ndiswrapper. then dmesg|grep ndis
[12:08] <fredl> Warbo - I just made an .xsession/chmod +x .xsession/startx and I get the same error message
[12:09] <mwe> NickGarvey: or dmesg| tail -n 25
[12:09] <digitalwizdom> automatrix does all the work
[12:09] <mwe> !automatix
[12:09] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[12:09] <Warbo> DeMoNSeED: The only decent Shockwave I've ever found is one from the "Cat-a-pult" people!
[12:09] <mucha> how do i unrar a rarfile to a specific directory?
[12:09] <NickGarvey> mwe: I love you
[12:09] <NickGarvey> mwe: the light is on
[12:09] <mwe> NickGarvey: good
[12:09] <DeMoNSeED> for years now macromedia, now Adode has been saying if enough want it they'll port it over, yeah, right!
[12:09] <mwe> NickGarvey: now blacklist that module
[12:09] <fredl> Warbo - does this mean anything to you: (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found
[12:09] <DeMoNSeED> catapult?
[12:09] <max2> hello !!  i am looking for a virusscanner that runs on linux that can scan and kill infections on ntfs systems...
[12:10] <DeMoNSeED> btw, nice to see ya again Warbo
[12:10] <mwe> NickGarvey: /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[12:10] <mwe> NickGarvey: and make sure it's not in /etc/modules
[12:10] <digitalwizdom> get I used to over write them file myself , but I'm a moron
[12:10] <NickGarvey> mwe: http://pastebin.com/663861
[12:10] <mwe> NickGarvey: the bcm44xx
[12:10] <mwe> NickGarvey: that's really good
[12:10] <mwe> NickGarvey: it's working
[12:10] <vars> nickrud, did you get flash 8 working?
[12:11] <NickGarvey> mwe: just put "bcm44xx" in /etc/hotplug/blacklist?
[12:11] <mwe> NickGarvey: now you need to actually configure the connection
[12:11] <Warbo> fredl: If it is the panel screwing up then you MAY be able to do this (but it is very dodgy!). "sudo mv /usr/bin/gnome-panel ." then "sudo ln -s /bin/true /usr/bin/gnome-panel" That will move the panel out of bin temporarily and replace it with "true". Maybe GNOME then works and you can move back the panel and see if that works? (VERY dodgy though)
[12:11] <Warbo> hello
[12:11] <mwe> NickGarvey: yeah and make sure it's not in /etc/modules either
[12:11] <fredl> Warbo - I'll give that a try
[12:11] <nickrud> vars, actually I'm messing around with it as we speak. My memory was defective, the page was talking about shockwave.
[12:11] <mwe> NickGarvey: is your connection encrypted?
[12:11] <NickGarvey> mwe: why does it say wlan0? its eth0
[12:11] <digitalwizdom> flash works , Quicktime, firefox 1.5, mplayer and much more
[12:11] <NickGarvey> yessir
[12:11] <mwe> NickGarvey: it's wlan0
[12:11] <mwe> NickGarvey: eth0 was with the other driver
[12:12] <mwe> NickGarvey: try iwconfig
[12:12] <NickGarvey> mwe: iwconfig doesn't show wlan, it shows eth0
[12:12] <mwe> NickGarvey: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[12:12] <Warbo> DeMoNSeED: Cat-a-pult is just a funny game where you slingshot rocks at cats to whack them through doors before they kill each other. It's best when you miss the doors and they hit the wall!
[12:12] <vars> ahh i only have ff1.0
[12:12] <mwe> NickGarvey: and ifconfig eth0 down
[12:12] <thiago_> Warbo, things look better. Now I recieved this in the end: "gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[12:12] <thiago_> " "Err http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages
[12:12] <thiago_>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code" "(1)downloaded 2B em 4s (0B/s)
[12:12] <thiago_> " "Fail on attempt to download http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[12:12] <thiago_> "
[12:12] <vars> i should upgrade to ff1.5
[12:12] <NickGarvey> mwe: wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[12:12] <vars> !ff1.5
[12:12] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:13] <thiago_> Warbo,  it was appearing before too, I though it was nothing
[12:13] <mwe> NickGarvey: rebooting might be easiest to clear the kernel confusion after the driver mess
[12:13] <fredl> Warbo - that worked....
[12:13] <NickGarvey> mwe: sounds like a plan
[12:13] <NickGarvey> let me log all this..
[12:13] <Warbo> thiago: Hang on a sec
[12:13] <thenetduck> man i hate sundays'
[12:13] <Warbo> Does anyone know if Epiphany has GZip built in?
[12:13] <DeMoNSeED> lol, k thanks Warbo
[12:13] <Warbo> I just opened a gzip archive and it came up text
[12:14] <naxxtor> hallo there!  how would I go about getting XVid to work in breezy?
[12:14] <Warbo> And I need to know if it is in gzip format.
[12:14] <Warbo> Oh I'll just download it!
[12:14] <mustang97> naxxtor, I found you need to install a codec pack and all formats work
[12:14] <thiago_> Warbo, sorru there
[12:14] <fredl> Warbo - so it would seem it's gnome-session that's messing up here.... are there gnome-session directories I can get rid of to 'reset' it somehow?
[12:14] <thiago_> Warbo, sorry there
[12:14] <naxxtor> mustang97, called what...
[12:15] <fredl> Warbo - I mean gnome-panel is messing up
[12:15] <Warbo> thiago: OK, the file exists for me (and it seems to for you as well) and it IS in GZip format
[12:15] <blindx> There isn't a photoshop for linux by any chance, is there?
[12:15] <naxxtor> blindx, try the Gimp
[12:16] <blindx> I don't like it.
[12:16] <blindx> :\
[12:16] <_jason> blindx: no, but I have seen claims of 7.0 running in wine
[12:16] <mustang97> naxxtor, check your msg..  thats the site I used to get the codecs working.
[12:16] <naxxtor> blindx, it's no real subsitute, i know, but it does work kinda
[12:16] <Warbo> fredl: Maybe go into ~/.gnome2
[12:16] <Warbo> fredl: I don't understand all of the XML though
[12:16] <naxxtor> mustang97, ... what msg
[12:16] <mustang97> I have every type of video format and after I did what that site said it worked.
[12:16] <NickGarvey> mwe: still eth0?
[12:16] <mustang97> I just msg'd you with a link
[12:16] <b_jonas> blindx: I don't know, but running Corel Draw under linux with wine is supported
[12:16] <Warbo> blindx: People are annoyed with GIMP. It's so darn good that there's no competition, so no real innovation
[12:17] <mwe> NickGarvey: lsmod?
[12:17] <b_jonas> I've just installed ubuntu to my computer
[12:17] <mustang97> hopfully I dont get kicked.
[12:17] <naxxtor> whenever i play an XVid file I get a blue screen and sound
[12:17] <b_jonas> and also installed some addittional packages
[12:17] <mustang97> naxxtor, http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[12:17] <_jason> naxxtor: only xvid?
[12:17] <thiago_> Warbo, what does this mean? (noob moment...)
[12:17] <_jason> !ubuntuguide
[12:17] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntuguide was out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[12:17] <fredl> Warbo - well I'll see what's in there. After I installed kubuntu-desktop and chose kdm as default display manager, it started gnome-session, maybe somehow that left the panel config hosed somehow
[12:17] <Warbo> Anyone know how to use the paste thing to send someone loads of text?
[12:17] <b_jonas> but I can't find the package that contains the info docs for coreutils
[12:18] <b_jonas> does anyone know if there's one?
[12:18] <naxxtor> _jason, i think so.... wmv works fine
[12:18] <_jason> Warbo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ , paste it there, copy the url and give it to the person
[12:18] <NickGarvey> mwe: eek its back
[12:18] <mwe> how do you completely make sure ubuntu doesn't load a particular module without removing it?
[12:18] <NickGarvey> mwe: never blacklisted it
[12:18] <sexcopter8000m> is there a command or the such to see what, if any, services are running on one's machine?
[12:18] <mwe> NickGarvey: did you add the correct name?
[12:18] <NickGarvey> mwe: nope let me fix that
[12:18] <Warbo> thiago: Well you've made an empty file, and it should be a downloaded list of packages in GZip format (compressed) but it's not because you just made it yourself. I'll try and send you the correct list
[12:18] <mwe> NickGarvey: make sure you use the exact name
[12:18] <NickGarvey> mwe: where is the blacklist again?
[12:19] <NickGarvey> find -name blacklist returned nothing
[12:19] <mwe> NickGarvey: /etc/hotplug/blaclist I think
[12:19] <SirKillalot> how can I edit the list of installed packages manually?
[12:19] <_jason> naxxtor: hrmm have you installed the codecs?
[12:19] <mwe> NickGarvey: locate blacklist
[12:19] <naxxtor> _jason, I thought so, but i'm just going to check
[12:19] <SirKillalot> there is a problem with a package which locks my whole dpkg
[12:19] <NickGarvey> mwe: its in modprobe.d?
[12:19] <SirKillalot> I'd like dpkg to think that it is already removed
[12:19] <SirKillalot> is this possible?
[12:19] <mwe> NickGarvey: also make sure it's not in /etc/modules
[12:20] <mustang97> Okay, I got a question...   I am trying to install ActiveTCL .. but I need root access to run the install script.   How do I install it if I cant login as root?
[12:20] <_jason> naxxtor: well I once got a blue screen like that, and I never found out what it was.  I had the codecs already.  It turns out it went away after I restarted X
[12:20] <mwe> NickGarvey: it is? ok. thankfully hotplug is gone in dapper ...
[12:20] <NickGarvey> mwe: ha yes I am using dapper
[12:20] <naxxtor> _jason, intersting.  the thing is mplayer plays em fine, it's actually xine and gstreamer that doesn't
[12:21] <b_jonas> if there isn't, I'll have to install them by hand. pity.
[12:21] <mwe> NickGarvey: well put it in the one in modprobe.d then
[12:21] <naxxtor> however there is sync problems when i play it in mplayer
[12:21] <NickGarvey> mwe: alrighty reboot away
[12:21] <Warbo> thiago: OK, can you go to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/ in firefox?
[12:21] <mustang97> anyone?
[12:21] <ohzie> Hey
[12:21] <qatsi> tarzeau: hey, this thing worked perfectly :D now i have my old files in here and everything is working good :D thanx a lot !!!
[12:21] <ohzie> Is there an easy way to install firefox 1.5?
[12:21] <welshbyte> mustang97: you ask a person with root
[12:21] <sexcopter8000m> mustang97, "sudo"
[12:21] <ohzie> Like, can I enable a repo for beta shit or something?
[12:22] <mustang97> its an install script.   I cant even type anything in.
[12:22] <mustang97> its like windows exe's
[12:22] <Warbo> ohzie: You could temporarily put dapper in your Synaptic lists and upgrade firefox, then change back to breezy
[12:22] <AMDXP> what was i thinking i should have installed Dapper on this PC
[12:22] <ohzie> And if I install it with a .deb, will it screw up my 1.07 install?
[12:22] <mustang97> install.sh
[12:22] <ohzie> Warbo: Okay, thanks.
[12:22] <ohzie> Warbo: Dapper uses 1.5 then? Yay! :D
[12:22] <fredl> Warbo - well it's most definitely something in the settings that were saved for the panel coz if I log in as another user everything runs fine
[12:22] <naxxtor> i'm having sound problems too
[12:22] <Warbo> ohzie: Yup. I'm on dapper, but I use Epiphany!
[12:23] <mustang97> Is their a way to give myself root access?  ( this is my pc.. just intalled ubuntu the other day)
[12:23] <naxxtor> if i've got weird lag on sound, what should I do?
[12:23] <ohzie> Epiphany?
[12:23] <welshbyte> mustang97: sudo
[12:23] <Warbo> fredl: For any other package I would recommend uninstalling with --purge to get rid of config files, but gnome-panel is needed by so much stuff :(
[12:23] <thiago_> Warbo: did it
[12:23] <tritium> !tell mustang97 about rootsudo
[12:23] <naxxtor> mustang97, depends what for - if you really want full root access you can sudo passwd and then su into root - but using sudo is the "ubuntu" way to do things
[12:23] <octathlon> After using synaptic to install a couple of packages, I can't find them on any menu or figure out how to start them.(gnome photo printer and glunar clock). ..
[12:23] <mustang97> welshbyte, yea, I got that.  but its an install script.   I don't type anything in.
[12:23] <naxxtor> plus it makes more sense
[12:23] <thiago_> Warbo, there are 4 links
[12:24] <Warbo> thiago: OK, download the Packages.gz file to your desktop
[12:24] <SirKillalot> how can I edit the list of installed packages manually?
[12:24] <sexcopter8000m> mustang97, tried "sudo sh install.sh"?
[12:24] <welshbyte> mustang97: eh?
[12:24] <Warbo> thiago: Then go into a terminal
[12:24] <NickGarvey> mwe: eth0 is not there, but nor is wlan0
[12:24] <angie83> Can anyone here, help me fixing a remote LAN installation?
[12:24] <graveson> i am receiving this error with mplayer : can anyone help me - /usr/bin/mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1:
[12:24] <thiago_> Warbo, done
[12:24] <mwe> NickGarvey: good
[12:25] <NickGarvey> mwe: modprobe ndiswrapper brings eth0 back..
[12:25] <nickrud> vars, you still about?
[12:25] <mwe> NickGarvey: huh?
[12:25] <aridese> why is the firefox in breezy so old?
[12:25] <Warbo> thiago: Do you know how to navigate around in a terminal or not (do I have to explain)
[12:25] <mwe> NickGarvey: dmesg|tail -n 25 after modprobe ndiswrapper
[12:25] <vars> nickrud, yeah
[12:25] <mustang97> sexcopter8000m, : thanks.. that worked.   I didnt know you could run install scripts in terminal.
[12:25] <vars> NickGarvey, what up?
[12:25] <sexcopter8000m> mustang97, ok, you're welcome :)
[12:26] <angie83> Can anyone here, help me fixing a remote LAN installation?
[12:26] <Warbo> aridese: Work is being done on Dapper. Adding FF 1.5 could (would) cause bugs in stable that nobody can be bothered to fix so close to dapper
[12:26] <thiago_> Warbo, if you mean going to a directory, yes
[12:26] <mwe> NickGarvey: also make sure you put ndiswrapper in /etc/modules
[12:26] <aridese> Warbo, ah i see, dapper is june?
[12:26] <nickrud> vars, I did the wine/windows firefox install, went to the macromedia flash test site, and downloaded shockwave & flash there; both seem to work
[12:26] <Warbo> thiago: OK, than go to your Desktop (in the terminal) and type "sudo -s -H"
[12:26] <NickGarvey> mwe: ndiswrapper is not there, let me add it
[12:26] <Warbo> aridese: something like that
[12:26] <mwe> NickGarvey: no need to reboot though
[12:26] <Apostle^> can somone tell me why when i tell xine where to look for a dvd it still reads from the dvd-rom drive instead of the folder i specified?
[12:26] <NickGarvey> mwe: http://pastebin.com/663894
[12:26] <mwe> NickGarvey: what's dmesg|tail -n 25 say after loading ndiswrapper?
[12:27] <b_jonas> nickrud: why wine? why not native firefox?
[12:27] <vars> nickrud, cool thanks
[12:27] <nickrud> b_jonas, I'm experimenting with shockwave support
[12:27] <NickGarvey> mwe: in that pastebin
[12:27] <mwe> NickGarvey: ok
[12:27] <b_jonas> oh, shockwave, I see
[12:27] <thiago_> Warbo, done
[12:27] <mwe> NickGarvey: can you sudo ifconfig wlan0 up?
[12:27] <NickGarvey> mwe: no pretty light though..
[12:27] <nickrud> and flash 8. I just noticed that http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats had some new info there, I'm checking it out.
[12:27] <NickGarvey> mwe: no such device
[12:27] <Warbo> thiago: If you give me a sec to work out what the apt-lists are I'll tell you what to do next (isn't learning fuhn :))
[12:28] <Warbo> fun
[12:28] <fredl> GRRRR how can I make GNOME forget it's (wrong) state
[12:28] <mwe> i don't understan. ifconfig -a and iwconfig?
[12:28] <thiago_> Warbo, yes :)
[12:28] <welshbyte> fredl: whats wrong about it?
[12:28] <Apostle^> can somone tell me why when i tell xine where to look for a dvd it still reads from the dvd-rom drive instead of the folder i specified?
[12:28] <mwe> NickGarvey: ^^
[12:28] <octathlon> can someone tell me how to find/run an application after installing it? It's not on the menu
[12:29] <fredl> welshbyte, somehow while messing with kubuntu-desktop, the panel got in a weird state
[12:29] <NickGarvey> mwe: ifconfig -a http://pastebin.com/663898
[12:29] <mwe> octathlon: dpkg -L foobar. sometimes a shortcut is added at next log in
[12:29] <welshbyte> fredl: what kind of weird state?
[12:29] <graveson> i am receiving this error with mplayer : can anyone help me - /usr/bin/mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1
[12:29] <fredl> welshbyte - it keeps restarting.
[12:29] <NickGarvey> mwe: iwconfig http://pastebin.com/663902
[12:30] <Warbo> thiago: OK, I think I know what to do
[12:30] <octathlon> thanks, I have rebooted... that command doesn't mean anything to me, but I'll try it.
[12:30] <fredl> welshbyte, I just tried symlinking the /usr/bin/gnome-panel to /usr/bin/true and then logged in, then everything works, except the panel ofcourse.
[12:30] <NickGarvey> mwe: I don't see where wlan0 is coming from.. and the light hasn't gone back on
[12:30] <tritium> octathlon: dpkg -L <packagename> lists all the files in that package
[12:30] <charlie> im trying to add my wireless card, and ive gotten the ndiswrapper part working, but i don't know how to add the network interface in my network setting control panel or whatever...  how do i do this?
[12:30] <Warbo> thiago: Type "mv Packages.gz /var/lib/apt/lists"
[12:30] <mustang97> gowd dang son of a biiii...    anyone know how to install eggdrop?    I first got problems saying I need a compiler..  I got gcc installed.    now it said it needed tcl...  i got activetcl installed.      it still says I need activetcl specificaly   libtcl.so
[12:30] <mustang97> I have no clue what its wanting me to install
[12:31] <fredl> welshbyte - when I move gnome-panel back in /usr/bin, my gnome-panel seems to be crashing
[12:31] <vars> i am trying to play a DVD with mplayer and it won't do it's thingCache fill: 19.53% (204800 bytes)
[12:31] <mwe> NickGarvey: but ndiswrapper says it's using wlan0 ? I don't get it. the annoying other module is gone, does lsmod confirm that?
[12:31] <octathlon> thx tritium, trying it now...
[12:31] <tritium> mustang97: sudo apt-get install build-essential if you'll be building stuff
[12:31] <facugaich> octathlon, look for files in some 'bin' folder, or 'sbin'
[12:31] <Warbo> thiago: then go there (/var/lib/apt/lists)
[12:31] <mustang97> I think I did that already..  lemme try again
[12:31] <mwe> NickGarvey: well is the card lighting up?
[12:31] <_charlie> how do i get my network interface working after ive setup the ndiswrapper?
[12:31] <tritium> mustang97: but I'd install the eggdrop package, rather than build it, if I were you
[12:31] <NickGarvey> mwe: internal card, the light is what I see, and yes the other one is gone
[12:32] <mustang97> tritium,  whats the diff?
[12:32] <simonpca> a+ tous, visite de paques oblige
[12:32] <mwe> NickGarvey: good. I wonder about the names though. whatever. try ifconfig eth0 up
[12:32] <mwe> NickGarvey: is your wifi encrypted?
[12:32] <NickGarvey> mwe: yes it is
[12:32] <thiago_> Warbo, it didn't find Packages.gz
[12:32] <tritium> mustang97: not having to build it (just install it, and you're done)
[12:32] <NickGarvey> mwe: ifconfig eth0 up returned nothing
[12:33] <thiago_> Warbo, I'm still in the Desktop folder
[12:33] <mwe> NickGarvey: good sign
[12:33] <octathlon> ok, It is shown in /usr/bin/  but now what do I do?
[12:33] <mwe> NickGarvey: does ifconfig show it's up?
[12:33] <NickGarvey> mwe: yes, so does iwconfig
[12:33] <malavar> hey how do i change my password on freenode???
[12:33] <Warbo> thiago: If you downloaded the Packages.gz file to your desktop (/home/username/Desktop) then move it from there. If you saved it somewhere else then move it from there instead
[12:33] <mwe> NickGarvey: what does iwlist eth0 scan return?
[12:33] <NickGarvey> mwe: but no light.. which was on before..
[12:33] <Warbo> thiago: mv is move by the way
[12:33] <NickGarvey> mwe: no scan results, my router broadcasts the ssid
[12:33] <mustang97> tritium, I ran that command and it says the version of tcl is too old for eggdrop.  goto activetcl to install newer..   I installed the activetcl couple seconds ago.
[12:33] <jadaz87> hello i was wondering is there anything like Dreamweaver for linux and has content?
[12:34] <mwe> NickGarvey: when did the light go away?
[12:34] <NickGarvey> mwe: on reboot
[12:34] <tritium> mustang97: just install the package, and save yourself the hassle
[12:34] <tonyyarusso> jadaz87: Nvu is somewhat similar and wort checking out.
[12:34] <malavar> hey how do i change my freenode password???
[12:34] <mwe> NickGarvey: odd
[12:34] <mustang97> in the synaptic package manager?
[12:34] <mwe> NickGarvey: the interface name is wrong
[12:34] <tritium> !info eggdrop
[12:34] <_jason> malavar: /msg nickserv help
[12:34] <NickGarvey> mwe: can't get it back...
[12:34] <jadaz87> tonyyarusso does it come with templates and content like Dreamweaver does?
[12:34] <ubotu> eggdrop: (Advanced IRC Robot), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 1.6.17-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 459 kB, Installed size: 1144 kB
[12:34] <mwe> NickGarvey: ndis ways it's wlan0
[12:34] <mwe> says?
[12:35] <graveson> anyone ?
[12:35] <NickGarvey> mwe: yeah,not sure why
[12:35] <tritium> mustang97: see above (it's in the universe repo)
[12:35] <octathlon> I found one of the two... but how do I get in on a menu or something?
[12:35] <mustang97> wierd..  says its already installed
[12:35] <tonyyarusso> jadaz87: Not sure.  If it doesn't by default you might be able to find some sites that offer them.  It is open source after all, so someone must have done it.
[12:35] <mwe> NickGarvey: I'd try the newer ndiswrapper. does lsmod show ndiswrapper loaded?
[12:35] <NickGarvey> mwe: should I start over and reload the driver?
[12:35] <Warbo> thiago: Just a thought, probably nothing, but you haven't installed/tried to install anon-proxy have you? Cos my apt-get couldn't get on the Internet when it changed the PROXY variable, but Firefox could
[12:35] <thiago_> Warbo, Opps, didn't see the line telling to download the file (...) sorry there
[12:35] <jadaz87> tonyyarusso that is true
[12:35] <Warbo> thiago: lol
[12:35] <Apostle^> is a dvd iso 9660 ?
[12:35] <NickGarvey> mwe: yes it is loaded, how new is new?
[12:35] <tritium> mustang97: apt-cache policy eggdrop should tell you for sure
[12:36] <NickGarvey> mwe: it says the driver version is 1.8 while the ndis is 1.7
[12:36] <Warbo> thiago: Basically just download it then move it to /var/lib/apt/lists then go there (must be superuser)
[12:36] <mwe> NickGarvey: well on second thought dapper probably has a new version
[12:36] <welshbyte> fredl: can't find anything to help with that i'm afraid, can't think what it would be
[12:36] <mustang97> tritium, yup.. its installed..  now to find were the heck it is
[12:36] <mwe> NickGarvey: why? is that dapper default?
[12:36] <octathlon> facugaich, then what do I do... it's in /usr/bin/
[12:36] <NickGarvey> mwe: yes
[12:36] <Apostle^> what file system do dvd's use
[12:36] <thiago_> Warbo, it will take some time (overloaded dial-up connection)
[12:36] <DewDude> Apostle^, UDF
[12:36] <welshbyte> fredl: can't find anything to help with that i'm afraid, can't think what it would be
[12:36] <NickGarvey> mwe: ndiswrapper -v says utils 1.7 driver 1.8
[12:36] <facugaich> you type it's filename in a terminal
[12:36] <Apostle^> DewDude: thanks
[12:36] <mwe> NickGarvey: probably ok
[12:36] <DewDude> yup
[12:37] <octathlon> OK... I can't add it to the menu?
[12:37] <tritium> mustang97: dpkg -L eggdrop
[12:37] <facugaich> octathlon, you run it from a terminal
[12:37] <mwe> NickGarvey: ifconfig wlan0 up should work according to what dmesg says
[12:37] <fredl> welshbyte - that's ok, I'll just start removing all those freaking GNOME directories that make no sense to me
[12:37] <mwe> NickGarvey: it's odd
[12:37] <[C] hris> If your using auto-apt and checkinstall what do you run after auto-apt run ./configure
[12:37] <welshbyte> fredl: heh, very systematic :)
[12:37] <tritium> you're, not your
[12:37] <octathlon> ok, thx facugaich...I was hoping I could add it to a menu or make a desktop icon
[12:37] <Warbo> thiago: That may be the problem actually. No programs can tell if you are actuall on the Internet. They just try to access it, wait a while, and if they don't get a reply they assume it's not on. A slow dial-up doing loads of stuff will take ages to reply and the  program may assume you are not on the 'net
[12:38] <[C] hris> make depend; make; checkinstall?
[12:38] <Warbo> thiago: Which, if you recall, was the very first thing I asked :)
[12:38] <NickGarvey> mwe: should I reload everything?
[12:38] <facugaich> octatholn, I dunno know about that maybe you can
[12:38] <thiago_> Warbo, by some time, I mean 1 hour
[12:38] <NickGarvey> mwe: I might have messed something when trying before
[12:38] <octathlon> at least I found it and can run it - thanks all for the answers
[12:38] <Warbo> thiago: Well then that may be the problem then!
[12:38] <thiago_> Warbo, yep
[12:38] <mwe> NickGarvey: it's worth a try maybe
[12:38] <thiago_> Warbo, sorry again
[12:39] <rotem> is it possible to test video ram?
[12:39] <Warbo> Anybody know how to change the request timeout in apt-get? Increase it loads?
[12:39] <Apostle^> DewDude: im trying to mount an iso of a dvd but it doesn't work when i try udf for the file system
[12:40] <acidspoon> does anybody know how to config webdav under breezy?
[12:40] <thiago_> Warbo, afer moving the file, what do I have to do?
[12:40] <fredl> gnome-panel hates me...
[12:41] <Warbo> thiago: On the Debian site there is a How-To about setting up your own apt-get server and using another computer to download the packages. You could do this manually )ie. In firefox) then move the packages to /var/cache/apt/archives and apt will not bother trying to download them itself
[12:41] <NickGarvey> mwe: bah what did you do to get the light to go on heh
[12:41] <BlueSwirl> how do i get each workspace to have it's own desktop background?
[12:41] <thiago_> after
[12:41] <DewDude> you don't mount iso's
[12:41] <NickGarvey> mwe: exact same thing as before
[12:41] <acidspoon> i need a httpd.conf
[12:41] <Warbo> thiago: OK, go to that dir and unzip it (gunzip Packages.gz) and you end up with a file called Packages.
[12:41] <mwe> NickGarvey: removed the old module and loaded ndiswrapper
[12:42] <Warbo> thiago: Have a look at the other lists in there and give it an appropriate name (use mv to rename "mv Packages new_name_of_file")
[12:42] <NickGarvey> mwe: no old module
[12:43] <Warbo> thiago: Then it should have an up-to-date list of Ubuntu packages.
[12:43] <NickGarvey> mwe: hmm why did that work..
[12:43] <thiago_> Warbo, ok, I'm just asking it to use the spare time (which magically became 10 minutes)
[12:43] <DewDude> Apostle^, you have to burn the iso to a DVD
[12:43] <Apostle^> DewDude: that's not true ...
[12:43] <Apostle^> DewDude: i just want to watch it in xine
[12:43] <thiago_> Warbo, after that, it should work?
[12:43] <DewDude> Apostle^, i'm just going on what i know
[12:43] <mwe> NickGarvey: personally I installed ndiswrapper cvs
[12:44] <DewDude> DVD's are usually UDF
[12:44] <Warbo> thiago: Yes, I was assuming something like that (that's why I was quite vague and went very far ahead)
[12:44] <NickGarvey> mwe: mm.. let me find a howto..
[12:44] <sonicjam> hey guys can you guys login in msn because i can't
[12:44] <DewDude> Apostle^, maybe you should try legally purchasing your movies
[12:44] <Warbo> thiago: Have you even tried using "sudo apt-get update" when you are not using your connection for anything else?
[12:44] <DeBert> sonicjam, i'm logged in now
[12:44] <Warbo> thiago: It does work fine on dial-up, just takes a while
[12:44] <NickGarvey> mwe: is that the same as compiling..?
[12:45] <Apostle^> DewDude: it is legally purchased buddy, i backup all my movies to the computer
[12:45] <erUSUL> sonicjam: yes
[12:45] <Apostle^> DewDude: donot insult me jackass
[12:45] <thiago_> Warbo: yes, to install something from the cd
[12:45] <byron> I want to search for a file on my whole computer, is there any way of doing that
[12:45] <DewDude> well
[12:45] <Warbo> thiago: I mean updating over the Internet while your connection is free?
[12:45] <Apostle^> DewDude: if you don't know the answer say so, don't be a jerk
[12:45] <mwe> NickGarvey: it implies compiling it
[12:45] <sonicjam> oh ok the sever is probaly back
[12:45] <Seveas> !tell Apostle^ about attitude
[12:45] <DewDude> you're the one trying to play ISOs..usually someone trying to play something off an iso is pirating movies
[12:45] <thiago_> Warbo, ops, no, I opened Synaptic to do that
[12:45] <mwe> NickGarvey: it's not that hard
[12:45] <Apostle^> Seveas: tell him about it, calling me a theif
[12:45] <Seveas> Apostle^, that does not justify your swearing
[12:45] <NickGarvey> mwe: I googled cvs ndiswrapper and didn't get anything.. pretty
[12:45] <byron> I want to search for a file on my whole computer, is there any way of doing that
[12:46] <thiago_> Warbo, no, I never tried
[12:46] <Warbo> thiago: Well Synaptic just tells apt-get what to do. Either is fine, but I'm just wondering if the requests are just timing out
[12:46] <welshbyte> byron: do you have locate on your computer? (i.e. locate <file>)
[12:46] <djk_> byron: locate foo
[12:46] <scale> is there a good way to force ubunutu to boot into a command line instead of the graphical login?
[12:46] <byron> thanks
[12:46] <scale> a key you hold down during startup or something?
[12:46] <sonicjam> where a good site for themes
[12:46] <tritium> Apostle^, DewDude: both of you relax, please
[12:46] <Seveas> !tell sonicjam about themes
[12:46] <welshbyte> byron: if it's a new file it may not be indexed yet though
[12:46] <mwe> NickGarvey: it's svn
[12:46] <thiago_> Warbo: maybe, but the messeges appeared in the same instant
[12:47] <Warbo> thiago: What kind of activity are you doing? If it is major peer2peer or something then surely you could just limit the bamdwidth it is using?
[12:47] <Warbo> thiago: Oh
[12:47] <mwe> NickGarvey: mkdir ndis && cd ndis && svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ndiswrapper/trunk/ndiswrapper ndiswrapper
[12:47] <sonicjam> thanx
[12:47] <DewDude> scale: you can either change it to runlevel 3 in your boot or remove the executable flag from the script in your init.d folder
[12:47] <DewDude> errrr
[12:47] <mwe> NickGarvey: install svn if you don't have it
[12:47] <DewDude> not init.d rc.5
[12:47] <scale> DewDude: how can I do that if I can't get it to boot into a command line in the first place?
[12:47] <Warbo> thiago: It does sound a little like a proxy problem. You don't have to use a proxy do you? And if not, you haven't taold anything to use one anyway have you?
[12:48] <odat> where do i go for dapper talk?
[12:48] <Seveas> !dapper
[12:48] <DewDude> scale: ctrl-alt-F1 will take you to console
[12:48] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[12:48] <thiago_> Warbo, no, I was just downloading a file from a page. It was just at 2 KB/s
[12:48] <welshbyte> odat: #ubuntu+1
[12:48] <DewDude> however, you can modify that stuff from terminal once you boot into gnome/whatever-youre-using
[12:49] <thiago_> Warbo, may I ask for help for another problem?
[12:49] <Warbo> thiago: OMG, how I remember dialup speeds! I get annoyed at anything less than 200KB/s now!
[12:49] <Warbo> thiago: Sure
[12:49] <scale> DewDude: I'm using gnome. it starts automatically. it's not playing nice w/ my monitor, so it shows up as a quarter-inch bar at the top of the screen.
[12:49] <scale> i need a way to get into the command line other than through the regular gui boot sequence.
[12:49] <whiter`> how can i boot into terminal only?
[12:50] <Warbo> scale: in GRUB use recovery mode (or add the word "single" to the "kernel" line and get rid of "splash")
[12:50] <scale> Warbo: thanks, i'll try that now...
[12:50] <Warbo> whiter: same as I just said to scale
[12:50] <Seveas> whiter`, see what Warbo just said to scale 
[12:50] <thiago_> Warbo, and I'm really happy with more than 4KB/s. That's why I don't (or "can't") use peer2peer
[12:50] <whiter`> heh
[12:50] <whiter`> k
[12:51] <NickGarvey> mwe: ok, then ./configure, make, make install?
[12:51] <mwe> NickGarvey: almost. wait a sec
[12:51] <mwe> NickGarvey: first make sure you wanna do this
[12:51] <Warbo> Oh yeah. In all of this selfless helping I forgot that I have a major problem!
[12:51] <NickGarvey> mwe: if I totttally mess something up I can reinstall
[12:52] <fredl> wonderfull
[12:52] <NickGarvey> mwe: no wireless = no linux on laptop
[12:52] <Warbo> I've got a wireless PCI card and the drivers are fine and it appears in the Networking thing and I got on to Wireless fine.
[12:52] <fredl> turns out ~/.metacity was fubar or something
[12:52] <tritium> Warbo: how humble of you to point that out...
[12:52] <Warbo> Then I reboot with it in and everyting screws up!
[12:52] <fredl> what the hell is metacity?!?!
[12:52] <jadaz87> hello guys i install vmware and i ran it and it ran fine i then restarted my computer but now i click on the shortcut and now it does not do anything
[12:52] <thiago_> Warbo, ok, a friend of mine can't make his winmodem work. It's a Lucent modem and he already tried to search the wiki. He found a text, but the writer wasn't able to make this kind of modem work
[12:52] <jadaz87> !language
[12:52] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[12:52] <tonyyarusso> fredl: Window manager.
[12:52] <mwe> NickGarvey: Well I use a custom kernel. We need to figure out how to get rid of the ndiswrapper module that comes with linux-image
[12:53] <Seveas> fredl, metacity is the window manager. The thing responsible for drawing window borders and moving windows
[12:53] <tritium> fredl: first warning
[12:53] <Warbo> thiago: Well I had a few winmodems a while ago, so I know a little, but I may get them all confused!
[12:53] <mwe> NickGarvey: and make sure it doesn't come back when you update
[12:53] <DoctorDyna> language, where, i missed it
[12:53] <NickGarvey> mwe: oh.. I'm trying make uninstall
[12:53] <fredl> huh warning?!?!
[12:53] <NickGarvey> mwe: ndis didn't come with dapper
[12:53] <fredl> what'd I say??
[12:53] <mwe> NickGarvey: not even the module?
[12:53] <mwe> NickGarvey: are you sure about that?
[12:53] <Warbo> thiago: I had a Softlink, Connexant (They make you pay for a driver!) and another, began with an E
[12:53] <smackpotato> flash firefox,twosoundcards. whats the skinny
[12:53] <DoctorDyna> is there a bot that sits in here silent until theres a word like "hell" or is there actually sombody with that little of a life lol
[12:53] <mwe> NickGarvey: I think it's included with linux-image
[12:54] <Seveas> DoctorDyna, careful.
[12:54] <NickGarvey> mwe: nope not at all
[12:54] <DoctorDyna> careful of what?
[12:54] <NickGarvey> mwe: there was something in /lib/modules
[12:54] <mwe> NickGarvey: it is. I'm positive
[12:54] <thiago_> Warbo, I'm sure his modem is Lucent
[12:54] <DoctorDyna> *sigh* im gonna get kicks out of here too for asking a question i guess
[12:54] <NickGarvey> mwe: but I just rmdired the directory because make uninstall did the rest for me
[12:54] <mwe> NickGarvey: linux-image provides ndiswrapper.ko
[12:54] <tritium> DoctorDyna: it was the _way_ in which you asked it
[12:54] <tonyyarusso> DoctorDyna: Not a lack of life.  They volunteer to take on that responsibility as a means of maintaining a positive atmosphere.  Details available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcRules
[12:54] <mwe> NickGarvey: that's not good
[12:55] <NickGarvey> mwe: no...
[12:55] <DoctorDyna> oh, so...
[12:55] <NickGarvey> mwe: not good?
[12:55] <mwe> NickGarvey: it will come back on a kernel update
[12:55] <fredl> DoctorDyna - that seems the way it goes with good things, first it's good, then the thought control police kicks in.
[12:55] <DoctorDyna> see, thats the answer i was looking for
[12:55] <NickGarvey> mwe: so um..
[12:55] <jadaz87> tonyyarusso do you know how i can set the gcc environment? i think it is       export something
[12:55] <DeBert> Do you guys know a GTK app for gtalk with VOIP?
[12:55] <mwe> NickGarvey: you need to figure out how to permanently remove the ubuntu ndiswrapper module
[12:55] <DoctorDyna> there are dedicated people that look for peepee and poopoo, thats all i was asking.
[12:55] <Warbo> thiago: Fine fine, just telling you of my experience. I got them all working (even the Connexant) and I could use standard dial-up tools like gnome-ppp. The only problem was that they didn't know when they discaonnected, so they couldn't reconnect automatically.
[12:55] <mwe> NickGarvey: then you have to recompile your own on kernel updates
[12:55] <tonyyarusso> jadaz87: Um, nope.  Sorry.  (Haven't done enough compiling for that stuff yet.)
[12:56] <NickGarvey> mwe: I uh what...
[12:56] <jadaz87>  does anyone know how i can set the gcc environment? i think it is export something
[12:56] <Seveas> jadaz87, export CC=gcc
[12:56] <thiago_> Warbo, well, forget about it, the guy is only using linux because his programming teacher makes he use vi to program in Fortran 77. Without a compiler, it's not very useful
[12:56] <mwe> anyone. how do you permanently remove an ubuntu module without removing linux-image?
[12:56] <nickrud> jadaz87, export CC='gcc-XXX'
[12:56] <dumezil_> can anyone help me setup my wireless card with ndiswrapper?
[12:56] <jadaz87> thank you seveas ncikrud
[12:56] <fredl> so is tritium a bot?
[12:56] <tonyyarusso> DoctorDyna: Among lots of other things.  They also try to control flooding, trolls, and offtopic chatter, for example.
[12:56] <Seveas> mwe, 'ubuntu-module'?
[12:56] <tritium> fredl: no, I'm not
[12:56] <Seveas> fredl, a highly intelligent one
[12:57] <DoctorDyna> well, yeah, i understand that..
[12:57] <mwe> Seveas: one included in linux-image
[12:57] <tritium> Seveas: heh ;)
[12:57] <nickrud> Fred, a very advanced version
[12:57] <Seveas> mwe, sudo rm
[12:57] <thiago_> Warbo, but the guy is using Force 2.0 alredy, so it's not so urgent
[12:57] <thiago_> Warbo, thanks anyway!
[12:57] <Warbo> Anyone help me with mythiago: What a cruel techer. Why can't he do it properly and use Emacs? :)
[12:57] <mwe> Seveas: but doesn't it come back on kernel updates?
[12:57] <Seveas> mwe, yup
[12:57] <scale> Warbo: It's still trying to start Gnome Display Mgr
[12:57] <Warbo> oops, 2 posts in one!
[12:57] <fredl> So ubotu is the bot and tritium just warned me because I annoyed ubotu?
[12:57] <mwe> Seveas: no way to prevent that?
[12:57] <Seveas> why do tou want to remove it?
[12:57] <Seveas> are you that low on diskspace?
[12:57] <DoctorDyna> heres the thing though, ive sat here watching most of the day, watching people who are actively talking...and the only time i saw the person i was picking on when i said that, was when sombody said something that you only hear past 8pm on primetime TV.
[12:58] <mwe> Seveas: because he needs ndiswrapper svn
[12:58] <DoctorDyna> so, i asked...
[12:58] <Warbo> scale: If you use the "single" option then you get dumped to a terminal. If you type "exit" or press "ctrl-d" then it will carry on normal boot up.
[12:58] <DoctorDyna> no biggie
[12:58] <nickrud> fredl, DoctorDyna, don't sweat it.
[12:58] <thiago_> Warbo, cruel because of the language, vi or both?
[12:58] <jadaz87> nickrud seveas  restart /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
[12:58] <mindtzar> anyone know how I can install the XML::Parser module for perl, I keep getting errors when trying to install it :(
[12:58] <jadaz87> with CC environment variable pointing to the "gcc" version "3.4.5". what should i put:   export CC='gcc-3.4.5'?
[12:58] <Seveas> mwe, hmm, that means removing every time after a kernel upgrade
[12:58] <mwe> NickGarvey: I have an idea
[12:58] <mwe> Seveas: ok
[12:58] <Warbo> scale: while you are in the terminal move the /etc/init.d/gdm to somewhere else, then it won't start (but everything else important will)
[12:58] <nickrud> jadams, gcc-3.4
[12:58] <erUSUL> jadaz87: yes
[12:58] <Seveas> jadaz87, export CC=gcc-3.4
[12:58] <fredl> nickrud - well sorry, I do. I don't like being patronized by a bot.
[12:58] <scale> Warbo: it stalls and gives me the option to enter the root password or hit ctrlp-d... wwill entering the root password do it?
[12:59] <DoctorDyna> i gotta be careful not to tell sombody what to use to check their disks O_O
[12:59] <Warbo> scale: Yes. Single dumps you to a root terminal. This is incredibly insecure, so they ask for a password these days
[12:59] <Seveas> Warbo, not on Ubuntu 
[12:59] <mwe> NickGarvey: ?
[12:59] <NickGarvey> mwe: ideas are good
[12:59] <NickGarvey> mwe: what?
[12:59] <tritium> fredl: you're not being patronized.  You flatter yourself if you think that.
[12:59] <nickrud> fredl, I missed the bot thing, but the ops here are cautious, but kind.
[01:00] <scale> ok...let me give that a shot
[01:00] <NagyZ> hello
[01:00] <Warbo> seveas, well scale just said it dis (and I've never seen it on Ubuntu either)
[01:00] <mwe> NickGarvey: ok. it will take a little work after each kernel update
[01:00] <mindtzar> anyone know how I can install the XML::Parser module for perl, I keep getting errors when trying to install it
[01:00] <NagyZ> could anybody help me with samba + ldap? :)
[01:00] <thiago_> Warbo, about the vi, he suposses someday this friend of mine will work in a place with only Intel 486 available and no graphic-friendly linux
[01:00] <dumezil_> can anyone help me with ndiswrapper and a wireless card?
[01:00] <scale> As long as I'm asking questions here, let me ask about what got me into this mess...
[01:00] <fredl> tritium - what is that supposed to mean?!?!
[01:00] <Seveas> Warbo, he's most likely on breezy with a root password set
[01:00] <facugaich> I have added a mount command to .bash_profile, but now it asks me a password twice when I login, any way to avoid this?
[01:00] <NagyZ> when I first fire up samba, I got this:
[01:00] <NagyZ> failed to add domain dn= sambaDomainName=DOZSA,dc=x,dc=hu with: Invalid DN syntax invalid DN
[01:00] <NickGarvey> mwe: okie dokie
[01:00] <NagyZ> and I dont know why
[01:00] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: In that export command, what's the significance of 'CC'?  Custom compiler perhaps?
[01:00] <scale> I'm trying to get xorg.conf to recognize the wheel on my scroll mouse
[01:00] <Seveas> fredl, it means that you are being annoying and should stop that now
[01:00] <mwe> NickGarvey: remove the module provided by linux-image. then compile your own
[01:00] <NagyZ> anbody? :)
[01:00] <scale> in the mouse section i put "evdev" instead of "mouse" for the driver
[01:00] <erUSUL> tonyyarusso: C Compiler
[01:00] <Seveas> Tonus, C Compiler
[01:00] <mwe> NickGarvey: you have to do that at every kernel update
[01:00] <Seveas> tonyyarusso*
[01:00] <Warbo> Scale: BTW, if you want to get rid of this vulnerability just add a password to GRUB (but use a different one to normal root password as "single" is the best way to fix a forgotten root password)
[01:00] <nickrud> facugaich, mount commands in .bash_profile are probably not a good idea, theres probably a better way to get where you want to be
[01:00] <tonyyarusso> erUSUL, Seveas: Ah, okay.  Thanks.
[01:01] <fredl> I'm not talking to you Seveas, I'm asking tritium something, is that alright with you?
[01:01] <scale> then i restart X and suddenly the screen doesn't work.
[01:01] <facugaich> nickrud: like what?
[01:01] <scale> but it doesn't give me an error and dump to command line.
[01:01] <nickrud> facugaich, depends on the destination
[01:01] <scale> it's like x is working... just not in a way that I can read.
[01:01] <jadaz87> fredl Seveas is an op i whould treat him with more respect if i were you
[01:01] <Seveas> fredl, stop being a baby - please behave in here or leave.
[01:01] <tritium> fredl: leave it alone
[01:01] <thiago_> Warbo, ok, just finished download, trying now
[01:01] <mwe> NickGarvey: /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[01:01] <facugaich> nickrud, what do you mean by destination?
[01:01] <NickGarvey> mwe: gone
[01:01] <Seveas> jadaz87, ops shouldn't get more or less respect than others
[01:01] <Warbo> thiago: 486. Never had one of them. At that time I was multitasking on my 1280x512 resolution Amiga 1200.
[01:01] <dumezil_> ive gotten ndiswrapper working, but there in no wlan0 network interface...  what gives?
[01:01] <nickrud> facugaich, what are you mounting, and why?
[01:02] <fredl> I AM behaving, I am asking a simple question and I get scolded for it.
[01:02] <DoctorDyna> see, ops are supposed to be helpful, not like...deities...but anyway
[01:02] <mwe> NickGarvey: good. now dpkg -l|grep ndis
[01:02] <Warbo> thiago: OK, remeber, this may be a big waste of time at the end!
[01:02] <facugaich> nickrud, my windows partition
[01:02] <mwe> NickGarvey: remove the utils
[01:02] <DoctorDyna> *sigh*
[01:02] <jadaz87> seveas yes that is true
[01:02] <ProN00b> i need a pixel lineal for my screen
[01:02] <fredl> don't tell me to shut up and stop being a baby.
[01:02] <Seveas> fine
[01:02] <nickrud> facugaich, you probably want that in /etc/fstab
[01:02] <mwe> NickGarvey: do you have build-essential installed?
[01:02] <NickGarvey> mwe: yup
[01:02] <smackpotato> flash firefox,twosoundcards. whats the skinny
[01:03] <Warbo> pron00b: Your name says noob, but this sounds quite admavced as I don't know what it is
[01:03] <mwe> NickGarvey: cat /proc/version. what does that say for gcc?
[01:03] <NickGarvey> mwe: dpkg -l returned nothing
[01:03] <NickGarvey> 4.0.3
[01:03] <facugaich> nickrud, what should I do? add a line to it?
[01:03] <mwe> NickGarvey: oh. how did you get the utils?
[01:03] <thiago_> Warbo, never had one either, but you never know where you will work!
[01:03] <NickGarvey> mwe: I apt-get removed them
[01:03] <nickrud> facugaich, yes.
[01:03] <scale> hah. okay, i restored my old xorg.conf, so now x works again. at least readably.
[01:03] <NickGarvey> mwe: and ran make uninstall
[01:03] <Warbo> thiago: Have you gone to /var/lib/apt/lists in a terminal (as root with "sudo -s -H")
[01:03] <mwe> NickGarvey: ok so no sign of ndiswrapper at this point?
[01:04] <NickGarvey> mwe: nope
[01:04] <Seveas> Warbo, sudo -i does the same as sudo -s -H and is shorter ;)
[01:04] <mwe> NickGarvey: and gcc --version mathes the one from /proc/version?
[01:04] <nickrud> facugaich, if you'd paste the single line you use in your profile to mount the windows partition, I'd be happy to translate to an /etc/fstab line
[01:04] <thiago_> Warbo, yes
[01:04] <NickGarvey> mwe: yessir
[01:04] <dumezil_> ive gotten ndiswrapper working, but there in no wlan0 network interface...  any clue what im doing wrong?
[01:05] <Seveas> hi HedgeMage, are you coming to voice everyone again? ;)
[01:05] <Warbo> Seveas: Well I know "sudo -s" keeps you as superuser, but I think it stays with your own account (ie. it can overwrite your config files with root-owned ones)
[01:05] <thiago_> Warbo, god damn dial-up...
[01:05] <mwe> NickGarvey: good. now make && make install. when you install the module next time go to the driver dir and make clean && make && make install
[01:05] <Warbo> thiago: Right, you've extracted it with"gunzip Packages.gz"? I'll find the right name for it then
[01:05] <bluelotus> Can you make a window _not_ change workspaces? I.E. "Only on workspace 6"? This would be nice to stop GAIM from popping up all over the place etc.
[01:05] <hellz_hunter> i installed a theme and i love the colour scheme, but there are some areas where the font should be darker and input areas that should be white, where do i go to change this?
[01:05] <mwe> NickGarvey: I hope you have linux-headers installed
[01:06] <nickrud> bluelotus, there's a package called devilspie that you can use to control where windows appear
[01:06] <mwe> NickGarvey: if not apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:06] <bluelotus> nickrud, Thankyou!  I'll get right on that!@
[01:06] <facugaich> nickrud, filesystem is /dev/hda1, mount point /disco, type FAT32
[01:06] <Warbo> thiago: This is the closest I could find in my lists directory (but I've changed dapper to breezy): archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages try renaming to that
[01:06] <thiago_> Warbo, I did it, but the same error re-appeared
[01:07] <mwe> NickGarvey: and make sure you remove the ubuntu provided ndiswrapper module first
[01:07] <Warbo> thiago: Use "mv Packages.gz archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages"
[01:07] <bluelotus> hellz_hunter, go to system -> preferences -> themes -> theme details -> then go the the theme's folder.  You might be able to edit it there?
[01:07] <DoctorDyna> fredl, id let you proxy rape my server, but alas id have to give you privleges on it.
[01:07] <NickGarvey> mwe: I am running an out of date kernel.. let me update...
[01:07] <NickGarvey> mwe: can't get my headers
[01:07] <mwe> NickGarvey: oh
[01:08] <NickGarvey> mwe: .19 is what I have, headers are .20
[01:08] <mwe> NickGarvey: yeah update
[01:08] <Warbo> thiago: Try using "apt-cache search somethingnotontheCD"
[01:08] <DoctorDyna2> baby.
[01:08] <DoctorDyna2> ban me now
[01:08] <Warbo> thisgo: If it comes up something then the list is in the right place
[01:08] <nickrud> facugaich, /dev/hda1 /disco -t vfat defaults,umask=0000 0 0    <-- that line will cause /disco to be mounted at boot, with all having read/write access
[01:09] <NickGarvey> mwe: will that require removing the module again?
[01:09] <mwe> NickGarvey: yes
[01:09] <mwe> NickGarvey: it's annoying
[01:09] <NickGarvey> mwe: eh.. as long as it works I guess...
[01:09] <schtinker> my ubuntu package for ffmpeg is messed up... the command "ffmpeg -vd /dev/video -ad /dev/audio out.mpg" returns "cound not find video grab device" when /dev/video0 is obviously there and tvtime works fine. Anybody seen this before?
[01:09] <dumezil_> im trying to setup my wireless card.  ive gotten ndiswrapper working and it reports "bcmwl5 Hardward present: yes", but when i go to configure the network, there is not wlan0 interface...  whats wrong?
[01:09] <mwe> NickGarvey: ubuntu doesn't seem to provide another way
[01:09] <nickrud> DoctorDyna, what a waste of your time
[01:10] <thiago_> Warbo, the lists are in the righ folder. Here is what is inside /var/lib/apt/lists:
[01:10] <thiago_> Warbo, archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages
[01:10] <NickGarvey> mwe: eh.. so I do that by make clean or something?
[01:10] <thiago_> archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages
[01:10] <thiago_> archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_Release
[01:10] <thiago_> archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_Release.gpg
[01:10] <thiago_> archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages
[01:10] <thiago_> archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages
[01:10] <mwe> dumezil_: can you sudo ifconfig up it?
[01:10] <thiago_> lock
[01:10] <facugaich> nickrud, why is that "-t" option in there, I don't see it in the other lines of fstab?
[01:10] <thiago_> partial
[01:10] <Warbo> dumezil: Are you sure that wlan0 is the correct device? Have you tried the MAKEDEV script in the /dev directory?
[01:10] <Seveas> thiago_, NEVER paste in here
[01:10] <mwe> NickGarvey: no
[01:10] <nickrud> facugaich, doh. Good eye, I was translating in my head and forgot to drop that
[01:11] <Warbo> thiago: That sounds right. Is one of those the one you downloaded (been renamed)?
[01:11] <mwe> NickGarvey: rm /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[01:11] <NickGarvey> mwe: okie
[01:11] <onephatmind> hey guys; is anybody using ubuntu in production? primarily web?
[01:11] <NickGarvey> mwe: I'll put that in a file..
[01:11] <mwe> NickGarvey: yeah. you could make a script to automate the process
[01:11] <mwe> NickGarvey: and run it at kernel updates
[01:11] <dumezil_> mwe: nope...   "no such device"
[01:12] <vars> DewDude,   i legally purchase my DVD's and my DVD player was working with mplayer a week ago, but now it isn't working at all
[01:12] <mwe> dumezil_: is the ndiswrapper module loaded?
[01:12] <thiago_> Warbo, none of them
[01:12] <DewDude> vars: i don't watch movies on my PC, i can't help ya
[01:13] <facugaich> nickrud, to change the priviledges I should change umask?
[01:13] <Warbo> thiago: OK, the Packages.gz you downloaded should have been "gunzipped" ("gunzip Packages.gz") then renamed to archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages
[01:13] <Henry_Bean> hi, anybody knows how to mount a digital camera as a storage device?
[01:13] <vars> andi i don't know why
[01:13] <Henry_Bean> to upload things into its memory card
[01:13] <mwe> Henry_Bean: I just plug mine in
[01:13] <Seveas> Henry_Bean, not all cameras can do that. The ones that can, will automount
[01:13] <vars> DewDude, how do you watch movies
[01:14] <cmatheson> i'm trying to use oobase to connect to my mysql database... it looks like it wants to use odbc or jdbc, i chose jdbc, but it says it can't load the jdbc driver... how do i get it to do that?
[01:14] <bluelotus> nickrud :-D Devilspie and Brightside both apt-get very poorly.  The example configuration files appear to be missing.
[01:14] <Seveas> Henry_Bean, the others should be used via f-spot or a similar program
[01:14] <vars> Seveas,  my DVD player was working with mplayer a week ago, but now it isn't working at all
[01:14] <schtinker> my ubuntu package for ffmpeg is messed up... the command "ffmpeg -vd /dev/video -ad /dev/audio out.mpg" returns "cound not find video grab device" when /dev/video0 is obviously there and tvtime works fine. Anybody seen this before?
[01:14] <Warbo> Henry_Bean: In GNOME it should be automatic. If not then the mount command will do it (if it is USB then it will be called /dev/sda1)
[01:14] <onephatmind> cmatheson, do you have mysql jdbc and nix odbc installed?
[01:14] <Henry_Bean> Seveas: mwe: yes, this one make the automount, but opens the default program to import the pictures...
[01:14] <thiago_> Warbo, I don't know
[01:14] <dumezil_> mwe: it is loaded
[01:15] <mwe> NickGarvey: sorry gotta go. remove the module and make && make install. when you have to do it again go to the driver dir and make clean && make && make install
[01:15] <cmatheson> onephatmind: i don't have odbc installed... where does the mysql jdbc come from? is that not part of java (i have that installed)
[01:15] <Warbo> thiago: OK, OK. Where is the .gz file you downloaded?
[01:15] <onephatmind> go to synaptic
[01:15] <onephatmind> put in mysql and find mysql java driver
[01:16] <Stargazers> Hi. How I can use KDM instead of GDM if I pressed GDM when I install kubuntu-desktop? I mean that I want to change it
[01:16] <Stargazers> But how it can be made?
[01:16] <Stargazers> Afterwards.
[01:16] <Seveas> Stargazers, sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[01:16] <tRSS> how can I watch quicktime trailers from the apple website?
[01:16] <thiago_> Warbo, It WAS in this folder
[01:16] <nickrud> bluelotus, not especially suprised :)
[01:16] <cmatheson> onephatmind: found it, thanks
[01:16] <Stargazers> Seveas: Thanks a lot
[01:16] <Warbo> Stargazers: I think "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" or the same for kdm would ask you again
[01:16] <grrr> well
[01:16] <grrr> sorry ok?
[01:17] <Warbo> thiago: Well if you used gunzip then it will be gone and you are left with Packages
[01:17] <facugaich> nickrud, umask = privileges?
[01:18] <Stargazers> Yep, that helped. But well, can it be the reason that my keyboard won't recognise finnish keyboard settings? I mean, I installed kubuntu-desktop but I can't write characters like a-umlaut and o-umlaut (a and o with dots over those)?
[01:18] <Stargazers> In settings I have selected Finnish keyboard layout
[01:18] <nickrud> facugaich, precisely. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions has more info on how to set proper privileges (permissions) on that partition
[01:18] <Stargazers> But it won't help
[01:18] <thiago_> Warbo, so, it's all right now?
[01:18] <facugaich> thanks nickrud
[01:18] <Warbo> Stargazers: Finnish should be fine. Linux ONLY had Finnish a while ago :)
[01:18] <DoctorDyna2> watch out, hes on a mission now...
[01:18] <Jmax> hi, i watn to swtich from debian to ubuntu.  I know it's as easy as modifying the sources.list and dist-upgrade'ing , but i can't seem to find out wthat the appropriate line in my sources.list would be
[01:19] <onephatmind> is anybody running a toshiba laptop? the m45 s359 to be more specific?
[01:19] <Stargazers> Warbo: Yep but my problem is that I have selected FINNISH layout but I can't still write finnish chars on my keyboard
[01:19] <Warbo> thiago: Well if you try something like "apt-cache search j2re1.4" and it gives you some results then it should be OK
[01:19] <obscurite> onepathmind - you'd have better luck asking chipset specific questions about specific issues
[01:19] <tritium> onephatmind: what's the issue?
[01:20] <Warbo> Stargazers: Do you know if it is a problem with Xorg or with GNOME? Mine used to have conflicting settings
[01:20] <Stargazers> No, it is not problem with GNome or Xorg. In GNome keyboard work fine but on KDE it won't
[01:20] <Stargazers> That is the problem
[01:20] <jsmidt> Soundjuicer says it can't find and cdroms and I can't mount anything.  How can I figure out what is wrong?  Any commands I can run?
[01:20] <onephatmind> i'm having a weird problem with all distros but fedora which i dont want to use;  if i boot with acpi=on neither of my NICs (wired, wireless) is able to be activate dor get an ip even though they are both recognized and seen
[01:20] <onephatmind> hehe there
[01:21] <Warbo> Stargazers: Ah. KDE, sorry. I can barely find my way around kcontrol!
[01:21] <onephatmind> debian netinst did not even see them at all
[01:21] <onephatmind> once acpi=off is in effect, it works like a champ
[01:21] <schtinker> how can I turn on my video capture card without using a gui interface... I think the GUI is clogging my pci bus and messing up the closed captioning
[01:22] <schtinker> I used to use ffmpeg, but it seems broken
[01:22] <Stargazers> Warbo: Finnish keyboard is only layout what is installed on my "Active layouts" list
[01:22] <speedy_> whats the name of the tool that configures the services runlevel by a menu-driven interface?
[01:22] <Stargazers> And "Enable keyboard layouts" is on
[01:22] <Warbo> schtinker: What kind of card?
[01:22] <thiago_> Warbo, it did it, but I still recieve an error messege when I try to update the Universe list
[01:22] <nickrud> speedie, sysv-rc-conf
[01:22] <schtinker> winfast 2000, warbo
[01:22] <nickrud> speedie, also bum
[01:22] <schtinker> warbo, deluxe... has always worked under my i386 fedora distros
[01:22] <Stargazers> Well, have to test if that helped that I changed to KDM. Soon back...
[01:22] <speedy_> thanks nickrud
[01:23] <Warbo> thiago: OK, don't try to update. You just did that manually. Just try to install something from Universe
[01:23] <schtinker> warbo, my PCI video card is an 8MB ATI rage clone
[01:23] <Warbo> schtinker: Well I have one of those that begins with a B (driver is BTTV or something) anyway it works fine. But in B/W
[01:23] <nemesys> Hallo Dennis.
[01:24] <thiago_> Warbo, there are no universe topics in sections of Synaptic
[01:24] <schtinker> warbo, yeah it's a bttv card
[01:24] <Warbo> thiago: Oh. Hmmmm. Hang on
[01:24] <schtinker> warbo, and in the past I've used "ffmpeg -vd /dev/video0 -ad /dev/audio0 out.mpg"
[01:24] <onephatmind> dmesg | grep ipw2200 nags that it failed to TX_POWER the NIC after 5 attempts which leads me to think that acpi is not properly powering the centrino chipset
[01:24] <schtinker> warbo, but it says "can't find video device."
[01:25] <onephatmind> any ways around that?
[01:25] <Warbo> thiago: Oh darn it. The file name should be "archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages" not "main"
[01:26] <Warbo> schtinker: I've never used ffmpeg directly so I don't know about that
[01:26] <Stargazers> Hell I can't still write finnish chars :S
[01:26] <thiago_> Warbo, ahuahuahuhauauh
[01:27] <thiago_> Warbo, I'll rename it lol
[01:27] <Warbo> thisgo: Yes, I know I know
[01:27] <Warbo> thiago: Why do I keep spelling thatwrong? I'll put it in copy/paste buffer
[01:27] <thiago_> Warbo, btw , how do I rename things in terminal?
[01:27] <Seveas> Warbo, hint: <tab> completion ;)
[01:27] <Seveas> thiago_, mv oldname newname
[01:28] <erUSUL> thiago_: mv
[01:28] <thiago_> Thanks!
[01:28] <hegemon> i need some recommends on secure net communicado tools: gnunet, i2p, tor, anon-proxy, privoxy, etc????
[01:28] <Warbo> thiago: There is a really confusing "rename" command for batch renaming things with perl expressions, but I just use mv to move it from one name to the other
[01:28] <Stargazers> Any ideas how I can make keyboard work on KDE right?
[01:28] <Warbo> hegemon: Have you tried Freenet?
[01:29] <sonicjam> hey guys how do i install a theme
[01:29] <dotdash[a] ndy> Mornin' all =)
[01:29] <Warbo> Seveas: WOW! That's amazing!
[01:30] <Warbo> sonicjam: You just extract it in your home folder/.themes
[01:30] <Warbo> sonicjam: Or you can get the "gnome-art" program which is good.
[01:30] <sonicjam> that what i do but it doesn't show up
[01:30] <aP> i'm trying to mount a dvd iso i can get it mounted (only in iso9660) and xine won't play it like i'm told it should, right from the iso, i want to mount it udf to /media/cdrom can somoen help? thanks
[01:31] <sonicjam> do i need to restart linux
[01:31] <schtinker> ap: are you using dapper?
[01:31] <jadaz87> hello i am having problems with vmware
[01:31] <Warbo> aP: As far as I know you give DVD players the device name of your DVD. If you want to play the VOB files then convert them with transcode
[01:31] <aP> schtinker: yes
[01:31] <schtinker> ap: I had a similar thing happen last night. gxine would not play an episode of futurama for me
[01:31] <thiago_> Warbo, trying to update again
[01:31] <Warbo> sonicjam: No restarts are usually necissary ever, except upgrading kernel or adding hardware
[01:31] <nemesys> So....
[01:31] <aP> Warbo: i don't want to have to transcode i just want to make the .iso play like a normal dvd
[01:32] <schtinker> ap: when breezy was doing it fine. My data dvd was unreadable or something
[01:32] <aP> schtinker: it tells me no demuxers
[01:32] <Warbo> thiago: Just try searching. As far as I can tell the update just downloads that Packages.gz file, unzips it and puts in the lists directory, which is what you've done
[01:32] <schtinker> ap: what format is the dvd in?
[01:32] <aP> schtinker: it's an .iso
[01:32] <schtinker> ap: meaning, is it a data dvd or a "tv playable" dvd
[01:32] <aP> schtinker: tv playable
[01:33] <hegemon> Warbo, no, im doin some research now.
[01:33] <jsmidt> How do you go about configureing your cdrom?
[01:33] <aP> schtinker: xine works fine if i put in a dvd-disc ...
[01:33] <thiago_> Warbo, search for what?
[01:33] <schtinker> schtinker: you mean a retail movie or something?
[01:33] <Warbo> thiago: Just search for something that is not on the CD, just in Universe. If it is there then it has worked. Example: j2re1.4
[01:34] <schtinker> ap: make sure you burned the iso image not an image of the image
[01:34] <schtinker> ap: I've done that before
[01:34] <aP> schtinker: i didn't burn anything, i made a .iso of a dvd.
[01:34] <aP> schtinker: i have the .iso file locally
[01:34] <schtinker> oh I see
[01:34] <jadaz87> can anyone help me with vmware?
[01:34] <aP> schtinker: xine is supposed to be able to play the .iso but it tells me no plugin and no demuxer
[01:35] <bobbyd> hi
[01:35] <Warbo> hegemon: If you have Java (ask someone how to enable Universe) then you can jaut download the Freenet archive from their site and use Frost as a gui or connect to localhost:8888 to do anonymous browsing (not on the normal Ineternet though, just "freesites")
[01:35] <aP> schtinker: i can mount the iso and then play the files in xine but the menu's are un-clickable do you know how to fix that
[01:35] <hegemon> whats the best proxy? I read that privoxy is not maintained?
[01:35] <schtinker> ap: I'm not an expert on that stuff, but demuxer means invalid format sometimes
[01:35] <bobbyd> I have a broken package that's blocking my apt system, how do I kill it?
[01:35] <schtinker> ap: you may need "lame" for mp3s, for example
[01:36] <Warbo> hegemon: If you go on the TOR website tor.eff.org
[01:36] <aP> schtinker: yea i have lame.. what file should i tell xine to play so the dvd menu's will be available to click on?
[01:36] <Warbo> hegemon: They will give you a new repository which IS maintained
[01:36] <nickrud> bobbyd, what's the exact error message? Put it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ if it's more than 2 lines
[01:36] <hegemon> I use privoxy now from ubuntu.
[01:36] <hegemon> so its not maintained?
[01:36] <Warbo> hegemon: Then you can run Privoxy through TOR and it works fine (although you get foreign Google sites and stuff :))
[01:36] <schtinker> ap: not sure. have you tried putting the .iso at /mnt/cdrom to trick xine into thinking it's a mounted dvd?
[01:37] <thiago_> Warbo, I pressed cancel in the update window. Before doing this, it found a few things, now it didn't find anything. I think I'll have to wait the update now
[01:37] <aP> schtinker: i have it at /media/cdrom
[01:37] <Donvinzk> is there anybody here using wengophone ?
[01:37] <crimsun> privoxy is very much maintained by MOTU, why?
[01:37] <jadaz87> !vmware
[01:37] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jadaz87
[01:37] <Warbo> hegemon: Well it's not at the latest version (I think, I know TOR isn't)
[01:37] <jadaz87> :-(
[01:37] <bobbyd> nickrud, thanks, here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12408
[01:37] <schtinker> ap: ubuntu uses /media instead of /mnt? I'm a fedora guy mostly
[01:37] <aP> schtinker: yes
[01:37] <Warbo> thiago: OK, if I understood that correctly
[01:37] <Donvinzk> I have trouble with wengo: sounds is bizarre, like a fast forward tape when I call 333
[01:37] <sonicjam> i'm trying to get this installed http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=14876&forummode=2&forumpage=4&forumexplevel=all
[01:37] <crimsun> Warbo: we're in UVF- and Beta-freeze. You need to file a UVF exception if you want newer versions in Dapper.
[01:38] <schtinker> ap: sorry I'm out of ideas
[01:38] <hegemon> Warbo, should i use the tor.org TOR package or stick with the Ubuntu provided package?
[01:38] <crimsun> Warbo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/UVFStatus
[01:38] <Warbo> schtinker: You can use either, but /media is default on most distros (what Frdora were you using)
[01:38] <thiago_> Warbo, at least, it's downloading something. It didn't do that before
[01:38] <schtinker> warbo: rh9 through fc5
[01:38] <schtinker> warbo: actually I think I started at rh5.2
[01:39] <Warbo> crimsun: All I know is that on the TOR site they say that Ubuntu/Debian is hout of date.
[01:39] <pablo_> does any one have script to install VDR on linux
[01:39] <schtinker> does ubuntu put TV capture cards somewhere other than /dev/video0?
[01:39] <thiago_> Warbo, downloading at 1.5 KB/s ... I think I will cry...
[01:39] <Warbo> schtinker: I think it's udev that caused switch to /mnt
[01:39] <crimsun> Warbo: so if you want a newer version, please provide the information requested.
[01:39] <pablo_> i came back to linux after 1.5 year and  i dont have my one
[01:39] <nickrud> bobbyd, the command that the postrm script cannot find is in tetex-bin ; try installing that package and then removing lilypond
[01:40] <sonicjam> warbo, i'm trying to get this installed http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=14876&forummode=2&forumpage=4&forumexplevel=all
[01:40] <Warbo> crimsun: I'm not bothered by it. I was just letting hegemon know
[01:40] <schtinker> does ubuntu put TV capture cards somewhere other than /dev/video0?
[01:40] <bobbyd> nickrud, thanks, how dod you tell that?
[01:40] <NickGarvey> test
[01:40] <NickGarvey> !ping
[01:40] <ubotu> pong
[01:41] <|main|> hi all
[01:41] <|main|> can I install ubuntu into a directory?
[01:41] <|main|> i dont have any blank cds
[01:42] <nickrud> bobbyd, I have the package apt-file installed, it allows me to look up a lot of info about packages.  I did apt-file search /usr/bin/kpsewhich . That's what told me which package it was in.
[01:42] <Seveas> |main|, you will need a cd and an empty paprtition
[01:42] <jadaz87> does anyone else know anything other than vmware that does the same job?
[01:42] <bobbyd> nickrud, ah great, thanks
[01:42] <Seveas> jadaz87, xen
[01:42] <jadaz87> or can anyone help me with installing vmware?
[01:42] <|main|> seveas, but can I run that livecd w/o burning it :) ?
[01:42] <|main|> i have an empty partition ready.
[01:42] <Seveas> |main|, no
[01:42] <nemesys> *yawn*
[01:43] <Warbo> |main|: with an emulator It is possible. I have installed with QEmu before
[01:43] <|main|> Warbo: inside qemu?
[01:43] <|main|> afaik, qemu doesnt connect to actual partitions
[01:43] <jadaz87> seveas does it have a gui? or is it cli? :-S
[01:43] <pinky_> hey guys
[01:43] <Seveas> jadaz87, vmware is easier 
[01:43] <Warbo> |main|: No. I used /dev/hda as hda and installed it there. As long as you don't use the same bits of the drive in the host and guest it is OK. But probably dangerous
[01:43] <sonicjam> hey guys i tried to make a partition with windows xp mce cd but didn't do nothing
[01:44] <pinky_> I cant seem to install the codecs for mp3's :(
[01:44] <pinky_> pinky@pinkpanther:~$   sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:44] <pinky_> Reading package lists... Done
[01:44] <pinky_> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:44] <pinky_> Package gstreamer0.8-mad is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:44] <pinky_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:44] <pinky_> is only available from another source
[01:44] <pinky_> E: Package gstreamer0.8-mad has no installation candidate
[01:44] <bobbyd> nickrud, the problem is that it keeps trying to remove the lilypad thing before installing anything else, so I can't install tetex...
[01:44] <_jason> pinky_: enable universe
[01:44] <erUSUL> pinky_: do not paste here please
[01:44] <erUSUL> !tell pinky_ about repos
[01:44] <jadaz87> seveas is an pain to install it keeps saying i have already had it installed when i uninstalled it already :-(
[01:44] <sonicjam> | main |, try to find a cd r-w some where in your house
[01:45] <|main|> :)
[01:45] <nemesys> and don't say 'hell', but you can say 'god damn'
[01:45] <nickrud> bobbyd, try sudo aptitude install lilypond (to clear the lilypond removal request), then installing tetex-bin
[01:45] <bobbyd> ok thanks
[01:45] <thiago_> Warbo, finished here
[01:45] <Warbo> |main|: QEmu is useful because it can copy files from a fake partition to a real one, but I find that running my Ubuntu inside QEmu makes my host Ubuntu read-only. I'm a silly billy
[01:45] <nickrud> bobbyd, sometimes clearing this kind of thing up takes a few steps, don't get warped :)
[01:45] <Warbo> thiago: It works?
[01:46] <Warbo> thisgo: No thanks to me :)
[01:46] <jadaz87> some many people here are disrespectful today...how long does a ban last?
[01:46] <bobbyd> nickrud, :)
[01:46] <thiago_> Warbo, got the same errors, but I was able to find j2re1.4 in Synaptic
[01:46] <sonicjam> can i make a partitions with linux than install winxp on an other
[01:47] <nickrud> jadaz87, nalioth answered that question by saying less than a day, barring extreme circumstances.
[01:47] <erUSUL> sonicjam: yes you can partition your drive fron linux
[01:47] <|main|> interesting
[01:47] <thiago_> Warbo, I think the problem cam be Synaptic
[01:47] <Warbo> thiago: Oh. You may have to do the same thing again in the future though, as the package versions you have access to may be updated and yours removed
[01:47] <sonicjam> good because linux goes slow with my pc
[01:47] <|main|> Warbo: do you have to give entire hard-drive to qemu? can it be a partition like /dev/hda1 ?
[01:47] <sonicjam> i mean with vmware
[01:47] <nalioth> nickrud: are you spreading the gospel of !ircrules ?
[01:48] <AleXerTecH> hi everybody
[01:48] <nickrud> nalioth, I am tweaking the dieties today, I'm exploring the fringes of hubris :)
[01:48] <AleXerTecH> im having troubles
[01:48] <Warbo> sonicjam: I think you can do pretty much anything with your drive from anywhere as long as you don't touch the partitions used by the host (whether that's the host of QTParted or the host of VMWare which is hosting QTParted)
[01:48] <NickGarvey> my wireless card is working up to the point of actually connecting, the light is on.. it detects the networks by scanning.. but can't actually connect
[01:48] <AleXerTecH> i have a laptop toshiba and it doesnt detect the dlink 650 cardbus for wifi conection
[01:49] <Seveas> jadaz87, the duration of a ban depends on hoe annoying people are. In the case of nemesys/fredl: it'll take a while...
[01:49] <tonyyarusso> sonicjam: By the way, if you install Linux first and Windows second, it will mess up the bootloader.  However, it's easy to fix with a live cd ('/msg ubotu recover' for info)
[01:49] <mzinz> I'm using breezy badger on a i386 laptop with kernel 2.6... is this the newest kernel?
[01:49] <crimsun> mzinz: the version in breezy-security is, yes.
[01:49] <Warbo> mzinz: That is the latest stable version
[01:49] <jadaz87> seveas oh ok
[01:49] <sonicjam> oh
[01:49] <sonicjam> dman
[01:49] <MHobbit> 2.6.16.5, specifically.
[01:49] <sonicjam> damn*
[01:49] <Warbo> mzinz: 2.6 is the latest Linux version, but 2.6.16 is the VERY latest
[01:50] <mzinz> Warbo, any clue when a new 'big release will come out?
[01:50] <Warbo> someone's going to correct me on that aren't they?
[01:50] <Warbo> mzinz: June I think. I'm using it now
[01:50] <mzinz> Warbo, how do i get 2.6.16? and is it worth it for such a small update
[01:50] <jadaz87> i think the ops here do a great job
[01:50] <mzinz> Warbo, Ubuntu employee?
[01:50] <crimsun> um, 2.6.16 is a _huge_ update from 2.6.12
[01:50] <Warbo> mzinz: Well 2.6.16 is actually a very major update, but isn't really worth it
[01:51] <mzinz> Warbo, ohh i see.
[01:51] <wood1702> hello
[01:51] <NickGarvey> !wifi
[01:51] <ubotu> hmm... wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[01:51] <sonicjam> because with the win xp cd that i got doesn't let me partition
[01:51] <Warbo> mzinz: Ubuntu is a Linux distro. Canonical is the company, and I;m just a regular user like you
[01:51] <wood1702> I'm having trouble playing a divx file, is there a way to see what codecs are currently installed?
[01:51] <sonicjam> make partition*
[01:51] <djs_2_6> Hello all.  I am trying to play an xvid coded avi file over my network using totem with the xine backend.  I am having HORRIBLE performance issues trying to even watch the show.  The buffering is taking forever, and it stops to rebuffer every 2 minutes or so.  Is there any way to increase the speed or size of the buffer?  The file server is not my problem, as it is a scsi raid 5 array over a 200Mbps bonded 64/33 network card...
[01:51] <mzinz> Warbo, specifically I'm trying to get "real" drivers for my WNIC... instead of ndiswrapper.  Is there a chance that would be on the kernel?
[01:52] <mzinz> Warbo, sorry haha.  I asked because I thought you meant you had an advance on the update coming out in June
[01:52] <mzinz> Warbo, ;)
[01:52] <NickGarvey> !ping
[01:52] <crimsun> anyone can & should test the beta released this week
[01:52] <ubotu> pong
[01:52] <Seveas> djs_2_6, areyou using samba?
[01:52] <Warbo> mzinz: Well if you look in /lib/modules/(your kernel) then you may find some drivers. Google around to see what they are (they are well organised). If there is one for you then you are laughing, but I doubt that 2.6.16 will them if 2.6.12 doesn't
[01:52] <Seveas> more specifically: samba via nautilus
[01:52] <djs_2_6> Seveas - On the file server?
[01:53] <nickrud> crimsun, is the closest release to 4/20 we'll see? (just want to archive it)
[01:53] <jadaz87> !xen
[01:53] <ubotu> [xen]  a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/ .
[01:53] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: I was pondering holding off until final, but I'm conflicted.  Feel free to convince me.  (##tonyyarusso is available for such things, btw)
[01:53] <Warbo> mzinz: I'll look there in mine (but I'm in a 2.6.15-18 kernel) but I don't really know what I'm looking for
[01:53] <crimsun> nickrud: sorry, please rephrase
[01:53] <Seveas> djs_2_6, I mean for playing the movie. You say 'via the network', but that can be anything, nfs, samba, sshfs, nc...
[01:53] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: Beta should be fine.
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[01:54] <filthy_badger> ipt, make it executable, run it and have fun
[01:54] <crimsun> sigh.
[01:54] <jadaz87> !ops
[01:54] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[01:54] <jadaz87> not again
[01:54] <hegemon> how-to use freenode anonymously?
[01:54] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: Yeah?  Should I do all updates between now and June, or will the 20th's be okay, but maybe run into significant trouble in between?
[01:54] <felipe_> How do I add aditional languages to my ubuntu box?
[01:54] <djs_2_6> Seveas - The file server is a Windows 2003 enterprise, and the workstation is a breezy.  For playing the file, I mount a network share from the Windows server, and play it that way.
[01:54] <hegemon> or IRC in general should say
[01:55] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: you shouldn't run into any trouble between now and 1 june
[01:55] <hegemon> *i
[01:55] <zntneo> does anyone here know how to turn on autocorrect under zsh
[01:55] <Warbo> I'm off for a bit as I've sorted (or given up on, I can't tell) that apt problem.
[01:55] <spoon> test.
[01:55] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: Music to my ears.  (I'm so blaming you if it breaks now ;) )
[01:56] <Seveas> djs_2_6, you could try downloading it first - samba via nautilus has been wonky in the past
[01:56] <sonicjam> is there a program that i can make a partition
[01:56] <Seveas> just to rule that out 
[01:56] <nickrud> crimsun, it's a personal itch. 50th birthday, reluctantly watching dapper not release on that day, talk of this that & the other release candidates, etc. No biggie
[01:56] <zntneo> anyone?
[01:56] <erUSUL> sonicjam: fdisk, cfdisk, parted, gparted
[01:56] <jsmidt> What is`SCSI?
[01:56] <narg> a type of hard drvie
[01:57] <djk_> narg: wrong.
[01:57] <jadaz87> anyone know why this whould happen?: Unable to copy the source file ./installer/services.sh to the destination file
[01:57] <jadaz87> /etc/init.d/vmware.
[01:57] <jadaz87> i am running in sudo
[01:57] <sonicjam> erusul, what type of program are those
[01:57] <nickrud> small computer system interface --> scuzzy  -> scsi
[01:57] <obscurite> anyone know the option in /etc/ssh/ssh_config to make the ssh client stay alive forever?
[01:57] <Daskies> Is there a way to turn up my maximum sound? In windows my maximum sound was enough to hear a mile away, no it barely enough for me to hear
[01:57] <erUSUL> sonicjam: to make partitions
[01:57] <Daskies> *now
[01:57] <Daskies> *it's
[01:57] <djs_2_6> Seveas - Any other solutions?  In general, this breezy box has had HORRIBLE network performance with that Windows server (i.e., ~20-25Mbps)...
[01:58] <nickrud> jadaz87, first guess is sudo
[01:58] <jadaz87> nickrud i already did sudo
[01:58] <sonicjam> erUSUL, i know that but are those dos or windows type of programs
[01:58] <zntneo> anyone know were i should go to get help
[01:58] <zntneo> on zsh
[01:58] <erUSUL> sonicjam: they are linux programs
[01:58] <djs_2_6> Daskies - Are you using Alsa, and do you have the right drivers for your card?
[01:58] <sonicjam> ho
[01:58] <sonicjam> oh&
[01:58] <co-playboy>  /s mesra.dal.net
[01:58] <sonicjam> oh*
[01:58] <co-playboy>  /s mesra.dal.net
[01:58] <narg> djk_: Ok fine, but it is commonly USED for harddrives :p
[01:58] <obscurite> zntneo -i'm assuming #zsh :P
[01:58] <sonicjam> well i'm of
[01:59] <Daskies> djs_2_6, I have no idea as to what Alsa is, and I'd assume I have right drivers since I can hear it
[01:59] <Seveas> djs_2_6, mount your samba shares instead of using nautilus
[01:59] <zntneo> sorry i just tried that
[01:59] <zntneo> didn't think about it
[01:59] <djs_2_6> Seveas - How do I do that?
[01:59] <nickrud> jadaz87, does the file /etc/init.d/vmware already exist? (grab in the dark, I don't have the script you're running at hand)
[01:59] <tritium> Daskies: advanced linux sound architecture
[01:59] <Daskies> Oh, I just figured it
[01:59] <Daskies> *out
[01:59] <Daskies> My PCM was all the way down
[02:00] <crimsun> nickrud: it's still our Beta release.
[02:00] <jadaz87> nickrud no there is not
[02:00] <Seveas> djs_2_6, a really easy way is downloading and running http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/addsamba
[02:00] <mzinz> crimsun, how do i install the newer kernel? and what cmd can i use to check the exact version of mine?
[02:00] <nickrud> crimsun, np, it was not an important question.
[02:00] <erUSUL> mzinz: uname -r
[02:00] <crimsun> mzinz: ``uname -r'' is your current version. Do you have a critical reason for wanting a newer version?
[02:00] <zntneo> its dead in there :(
[02:00] <obscurite> nevermind, it ws ServerAliveInterval
[02:01] <mzinz> crimsun, no :)
[02:01] <djs_2_6> Seveas - Is that a file, or what?
[02:01] <erUSUL> mzinz: to install a new one you have to compile it
[02:01] <mzinz> erUSUL, ill pass.
[02:01] <Seveas> djs_2_6, yes
[02:01] <jadaz87> nickrud no there is no file like that there lol
[02:01] <Seveas> a shell script to add samba shares to /etc/fstab
[02:01] <joebu23> noob here, need some help
[02:02] <LinuxHelp> does anyone here have experience with the booting of the dapper cd installer?   In terms of making a custom initrd.gz?  I'm using the mini.iso with a custom initrd but I'm having porblems, and yes I've tried #ubuntu+1
[02:02] <kpLaX[oldcomp] > me too
[02:02] <DBO> joebu23, what is your problem?
[02:02] <joebu23> trying to play mp3 files
[02:02] <Seveas> !mp3
[02:02] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:02] <djs_2_6> Seveas - Ok, I downloaded it, and firefox gave it a .htm extension.  What do I do now?
[02:02] <freya> hi... i just put a soundcard in my box
[02:03] <kpLaX[oldcomp] > I need help.  I tried restarting my comp with the Ubuntu disc in, but it didn't load on start and windows just loaded up
[02:03] <kpLaX[oldcomp] > im noon
[02:03] <kpLaX[oldcomp] > noob*
[02:03] <freya> how can i enable it?
[02:03] <phrowzen> kpLaX[oldcomp] , change your boot device priority in the bios
[02:03] <pete009> I have a similar problem with PPc
[02:03] <Seveas> djs_2_6, bash filename_you_gave_it
[02:03] <kpLaX[oldcomp] > roger that sir
[02:03] <kpLaX[oldcomp] > im out
[02:03] <Seveas> or actually, sudo bash filename_you_gave_it
[02:04] <Marineboy> Anyone know how long it takes for ShipIT to send the CD's out?
[02:04] <Seveas> Marineboy, 4 to 6 weeks
[02:04] <jadaz87> Marineboy 4 to 6 weeks
[02:05] <Marineboy> hrm!
[02:05] <jindiaz> can someone help me use a use a linux-installer.bin?
[02:05] <Marineboy> damn thats a long time.
[02:05] <mzinz> Whats the point of sudo if you've already logged into your admin account? Constant security?
[02:05] <Marineboy> that means i'mma have to run my pc off the live version.
[02:05] <jadaz87> Marineboy i was so happy when i got mine all the way from France :-
[02:05] <jadaz87> :-D
[02:05] <nickrud> jadaz87, that is odd then. does the file exist under ./installer? (without reading the bash script, I'm kinda flailing about here)
[02:06] <jadaz87> mzinz so people have a second chance to will egrethit Ctrl+C in the terminal before they do something they
[02:06] <Marineboy> jadaz87: i deleted my Win partition and tryed to install ubuntu to find that the version I got was corrupted :~(
[02:06] <nickrud> Marineboy, you could do like I did, and download the iso over several nights
[02:06] <Marineboy> nickrud: it would only take me a hour to download it.
[02:06] <Noisy_1> is there any way to load a desktop environment onto a CLI server system?
[02:06] <PS> jindiaz: open a terminal and issue chmod a+x linux-installer.bin
[02:06] <jadaz87> nickrud do you want me to paste the script?
[02:06] <Noisy_1> sapt-get or something?
[02:07] <PS> then ./linux-installer.bin
[02:07] <Marineboy> but i dont think i can download it off the live version can I?
[02:07] <djs_2_6> Seveas - I did that, said yes to installing the smbfs, gave the server, share, username, password, and got an error - cli_negprot: SMB signing is mandatory and we have disabled it.  17098: protocol negotiation failed  umount: /tmp/tmp.vm0GRx: not mounted
[02:07] <freya> hmm /proc/bus/pnp not available...
[02:07] <onthost> I am sorry to ask this again, but does soemone have the link to the old world mac howto?
[02:07] <Noisy_1> www.google.com
[02:07] <Marineboy> Seveas: can you download to the live version?
[02:07] <jindiaz> PS: ok cool, thank man, gunna have to do it later then, termianl is in use
[02:07] <_jason> !oldworld
[02:07] <ubotu> from memory, oldworld is to install on an old world powermac, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OldWorldMacs
[02:08] <Seveas> djs_2_6, never seen that error before...
[02:08] <nickrud> Marineboy, yes, you can, if you have a fat32 partition to download to. I think you could resize your ntfs partition in advance
[02:08] <amonkey> randomly i can't open any folders. on the toolbar it says "starting home" and then dissapears. i can still ls in terminal
[02:08] <PS> can't you open another terminal?
[02:08] <PS> :-)
[02:08] <narg> jindiaz: you can open up use multiple terminals
[02:08] <Noisy_1> can linux read ntfs?
[02:08] <crimsun> Noisy_1: yes
[02:08] <Marineboy> lol I dont know if i even got a fat32 anymore.
[02:08] <Noisy_1> nice
[02:08] <djs_2_6> Seveas - Can I do this manually, without a script?
[02:08] <PS> sure, i take it you're booted into unbuntu gnome?
[02:08] <Seveas> djs_2_6, hang on, trying to find out what that error means
[02:08] <LinuxHelp> Is it possible to install dapper using an existing linux installation? I have Fedora 5 running and I have a blank partition, I mean to install while in FC5
[02:09] <djs_2_6> Seveas - Oh, ok.  Sorry, and thank you...
[02:09] <jadaz87> nickrud here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12409
[02:09] <Marineboy> Obi_Wan Im banned from #ubuntu, could someone please unban me, or tell me someone to unban me?
[02:09] <nickrud> Marineboy, I missed the part where you lost your orig install. You most certainly can create some partitions and format them, and download to them in the live cd
[02:09] <Noisy_1> what's the command to reboot?
[02:09] <Marineboy> nickrud i'mma PM you okay?
[02:09] <welshbyte> reboot (or shutdown -r now)
[02:10] <Noisy_1> tried both of those
[02:10] <welshbyte> as root
[02:10] <Noisy_1> sudo
[02:10] <welshbyte> yup
[02:10] <Noisy_1> does regular debian not have sudo?
[02:10] <djs_2_6> Noisy_1 - It does...
[02:11] <Noisy_1> -bash: sudo: command not found
[02:11] <mabus> Why does embedded video in firefox like NEVER work?
[02:11] <_jason> mabus: use mplayer plug-in
[02:11] <djs_2_6> Noisy_1 - sudo is probably not installed then...
[02:12] <Noisy_1> can i apt-get it?
[02:12] <|main|> mplayer, or plugger
[02:12] <|main|> i think plugger is somewhat better
[02:12] <djs_2_6> Noisy_1 - You should be able to...
[02:12] <djs_2_6> Noisy_1 - Probably have to be logged in as root, though...
[02:12] <Seveas> djs_2_6, http://www.computing.net/linux/wwwboard/forum/27175.html
[02:12] <Noisy_1> i need sudo to get sudo... ;P
[02:12] <mabus> _jason: isn't that one of the things it tells you to install on !restrictedformats? I installed all that
[02:13] <nickrud> jadaz87, that's over my head. Sorry, I'm not sure what to suggest here.
[02:13] <Noisy_1> yeah I'll login as root
[02:13] <jadaz87> nickrud lol
[02:13] <mabus> Noisy_1: Ah, you did an expert install.
[02:13] <Noisy_1> unfortunately
[02:13] <mabus> Noisy_1: Be sure to add your regular user to the sudoers file.
[02:13] <_jason> mabus: pastebin what you get when you do 'about:plugins' in firefox please?
[02:13] <Noisy_1> should I do the standard install?
[02:14] <Noisy_1> I don't even have a desktop environment
[02:14] <Noisy_1> I fail at Linux
[02:14] <mabus> Noisy_1: You won't learn anything by doing that. You haven't done anything unfixable.
[02:15] <Seveas> djs_2_6, download this: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/addcifs
[02:15] <Seveas> and try with that one
[02:15] <Noisy_1> is there a way to apt-get a desktop environment?
[02:15] <mjr> Noisy_1, for the large ones, yes
[02:15] <poningru> Noisy_1: apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[02:15] <_jason> Noisy_1: install ubuntu-desktop for gnome, kubuntu-desktop for kde, xubuntu-desktop for xfce
[02:15] <poningru> what he said
[02:15] <Noisy_1> this is for regular debian though, sorry for the unrelated chat
[02:16] <_jason> oh
[02:16] <poningru> Noisy_1: #debian
[02:16] <juanca> hello everyone
[02:16] <Noisy_1> ah
[02:16] <Noisy_1> tr
[02:16] <pr0-t31n> when i try to install drivers for my 2wrie modem with ndiswrapper i get this error
[02:16] <pr0-t31n>  root@2wire:~# ndiswrapper -i 2wirepcp.sys
[02:16] <pr0-t31n> Installing 2wirepcp.sys
[02:16] <pr0-t31n> couldn't copy 2wirepcp.sys at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 139.
[02:16] <pr0-t31n> root@2wire:~# ndiswrapper -l
[02:16] <pr0-t31n> Installed drivers:
[02:16] <pr0-t31n> 2wirepcp.sys invalid driver!
[02:16] <pr0-t31n> root@2wire:~#
[02:16] <poningru> !paste
[02:16] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[02:16] <juanca> has anyone here used garnome to run Gnome 2.14 under breezy?
[02:16] <poningru> garnome?
[02:16] <mabus> _jason: http://pastebin.ca/49558
[02:17] <juanca> poningru: yes garnome
[02:17] <poningru> woah
[02:18] <_jason> mabus: you still have totem handling a lot of your streams, but you do have mpalyer-plugin installed, just do ubotu's first command and restart firefox
[02:18] <_jason> ubotu: tell mabus about replacetotem
[02:18] <mabus> _jason: I'm not identified... since when could I get pmed?
[02:18] <juanca> I have upgraded my system from Breezy to Dapper, but I have a lot of issues with DRI and DRM in my savage xserver driver
[02:18] <_jason> mabus: you can get pm'd, you just can't pm others (unless they change a setting)
[02:19] <juanca> I wanted to benefit from the memory management improvement in Gnome 2.14, but the xserver savage driver just freezes on system boot
[02:19] <Daskies> Hey I'm having problems playing Midi files with Java, does Ubuntu have a Midi device?
[02:19] <nickrud> I'm trying to remember the correct way to get root access (for formatting a harddrive) in the breezy live cd
[02:20] <nickrud> any takers?
[02:20] <mikebot> does ubuntu come witha  cpp compiler?
[02:20] <jadaz87> can anyone help me with an installation of vmware
[02:20] <Seveas> nickrud, sudo -i
[02:20] <nickrud> Seveas, thanks
[02:20] <mabus> mikebot: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:20] <Seveas> !tell mikebot about compiling
[02:20] <mikebot> thanks
[02:20] <hellz_hunter> i am trying to install gtk2.x themes using the themes button on the system > preferences part but when i install the theme, a window says that the theme was correctly installed but i dont see it in the list of available themes
[02:20] <qalimas> Is there a way to create a live cd from a customized install of Ubuntu?
[02:21] <_jason> hellz_hunter: some themes are not complete themes, check the tabs in the 'details...' button
[02:21] <Daskies> Ubuntu midi port anyone?
[02:21] <Seveas> qalimas, not easily
[02:21] <qalimas> What about a remaster of the downloadable live cd?
[02:21] <mabus> qalimas: there is a guide on the wiki somewhere
[02:21] <mabus> !customlivecd
[02:21] <ubotu> mabus: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:21] <mabus> meh
[02:22] <mustang97> I'm tryin to get eggdrop working.   I installed the eggdrop package.. found the folder but no config file or any of the other files.    How do I go about getting eggdrop working?    I tried to get eggdrop and compile myself but its saying it needs some libtcl.so .. I installed activetcl and it still wont work.
[02:22] <mabus> It's there, search.
[02:22] <mustang97> any suggestions?
[02:22] <qalimas> Ok, thanks
[02:22] <Hackmo> mustang97: install tcl4.8-dev
[02:22] <jadaz87> !livecdcustom
[02:22] <ubotu> jadaz87: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:22] <pete009> Need Help! Can't boot up on a Live Cd on a powerpc.
[02:22] <mustang97> lemme go try that
[02:22] <tonyyarusso> !livecd
[02:23] <pete009> ububtu 5.1
[02:23] <jadaz87> pete009 is the live cd for ppc?
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> !+livecd
[02:23] <ubotu> livecd is, like, totally, useful for playing with or trying out (k)ubuntu without installing it or making any changes to your system. grab one from the download page at http://www.ubuntulinux.org or request via ship-it.  To remaster your own, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo .
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> jadaz87, mabus, qalimas: Sometimes the factoids are just that simple :)
[02:23] <mikebot> so linux doesn't use .exe?
[02:23] <pete009> thanks
[02:23] <jadaz87> tonyyarusso lol
[02:23] <mjr> mikebot, nope
[02:23] <jadaz87> mikebot nope
[02:23] <mikebot> what does it use instead?
[02:23] <skon> mikebot: linux doesn't use any extensions
[02:23] <mikebot> ah
[02:24] <mjr> mikebot, permissions
[02:24] <jadaz87> mikebot executable files are flaged with +x which means executable
[02:24] <mikebot> so how does it know to opena  pdf file witha  viewer?
[02:24] <mikebot> e.g.
[02:24] <jadaz87> mike just like read only system , blah, on M$
[02:24] <mustang97> Hackmo, 4.8?  I did a google search and no results..  I tried 8.4 and got a result (remember seeing somfin bout 8.4 earlier)
[02:24] <mjr> yep, and the +x means basically "allowed to execute", which is a permission
[02:24] <jadaz87> mikebot it has the extension .pdf
[02:25] <Seveas> mikebot, similar as on windows: a database that couples extensions and mime types with applications
[02:25] <jadaz87> mikebot linux is not restricted to extensions that is what we are trying to say
[02:25] <mikebot> ah ok
[02:25] <Hackmo> mustang97: yeah, i'm sorry it's 8.4
[02:25] <[Ryan] > Anyone here happen to use SBC's default 2Wire wireless modem with Ubuntu?
[02:25] <mustang97> Hackmo, okay.. thanks.. was making sure before I installed..
[02:25] <Hackmo> mustang97: sudo apt-get install tcl8.4-dev
[02:25] <Khaaaaan> Hey guys, is there a way to get Skype in Dapper???
[02:26] <Warbo> mikebot: There are a few ways. It looks at the extension" like .pdf. It also looks at the "header" (I think) which is the beginning of the file saying what it is, and it can also do it heuristically "This looks like a PDF"
[02:26] <poningru> !skype
[02:26] <ubotu> rumour has it, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[02:26] <mikebot> Warbo, ok, thanks
[02:26] <Hackmo> mustang97: after that then compile/install eggdrop using the latest version from there site
[02:26] <mustang97> oh. much easier then what I was bout to do..  was gonna download off their site and try to install that way.
[02:26] <mustang97> yea.. I already got the eggdrop
[02:27] <Noisy_1> Isn't Dapper beta? Why would you want buggy software?
[02:27] <mustang97> Hackmo, I'm used to installing / configureing eggdrop..  just not with setting up a pc to run eggdrop.. :)
[02:27] <Khaaaaan> Dapper is money as hell duder
[02:27] <Warbo> Khaaaan: Either try apt-get.org or I think there is a package in Debian non-free which downloads Skype and installs it for you (as repackaging it isn't allowed)
[02:27] <djs_2_6> Seveas - Thank you for that.  The bash addcifs did not work either, but that website helped, so I think I will do some playing...
[02:27] <Hackmo> mustang97: yeah me too, the only reason I knew how to solve your problem is because I installed eggdrop like 3 hours ago
[02:28] <jinho> hi when I run eclipse It runs pretty slow...loading takes more than 10 seconds, in addition I always get an error message the first time I start eclipse...I have the latest JDK, but not the latest version of eclipse (3.1.1 is what I have) anyone know why eclipse is lagging?
[02:28] <[Ryan] > Mmm... Nobody here uses SBC or a 2Wire modem/USB adapter?
[02:29] <mustang97> Hackmo, ahh.. good deal then
[02:29] <jadaz87> Ryan why do you not use the ethernet port on the dsl modem?
[02:29] <ally> i need help changein my resolution
[02:29] <mustang97> Hackmo, been tryin to get eggdrop installed for 2 days now..  were did you find out what to install?   been lookin on ubuntusguide page
[02:29] <iceman> poor mac's now running windows xp .... sad ...
[02:30] <Warbo> jadaz87: Not all USB modems have Ethernet
[02:30] <Hackmo> mustang97: there is a post about it on the fourms
[02:30] <uriel_> xp is the best desktop OS
[02:30] <jadaz87> Warbo most broadband ones do
[02:30] <blindx> Where can I find more ubuntu themes?
[02:30] <mustang97> Hackmo, ahhhh..   knew I shoulda checked that..
[02:30] <poningru> uriel_: rofl
[02:30] <ally> i need help chagning my resolution
[02:30] <[Ryan] > jadaz87: I have to use a wireless adapter that communicates with the modem because a phone jack isn't anywhere *near* where this PC needs to be.
[02:31] <jinho> anyone have problems with eclipse being very slow?
[02:31] <Warbo> jadaz87: Routers have Ethernet ports, and many routers have modems inside. I know a few people who only have modems, with usb only. I have 2 routers. 1 with a modem and 1 with WiFi but no modem.
[02:31] <[Ryan] > And, well, it's not working out at all.
[02:31] <ally> [19:26]  hardcorevinyl: ahh
[02:31] <ally> [19:26]  hardcorevinyl: im eating a cake with eggshells in it
[02:31] <ally> [19:28]  hardcorevinyl: its pretty bad
[02:31] <Hackmo> mustang97: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9894&highlight=eggdrop+tcl
[02:31] <saik0> !offtopic
[02:31] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[02:31] <geronimo89> !xgl
[02:31] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[02:32] <ally>  i need help chagning my resolution
[02:32] <sethk> ally, why?
[02:32] <jinho> gotcha ubotu
[02:32] <ally> because its set too low
[02:32] <[Ryan] > It sees the wireless USB adapter, but doesn't know what it is. And the manufacturer doesn't make Linux drivers.
[02:32] <jadaz87> !res
[02:32] <ubotu> res is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:32] <sethk> ally, no, I mean why do you need help?  what's the problem?
[02:32] <Daskies> Is there a hotkey to xkill, or bring up thew terminal?
[02:32] <Warbo> ally: Set it highest possible then you can use Ctrl-Alt-+ (on NumPad) to "zoom in"
[02:33] <jadaz87> Daskies Alt+F2 brings up the run box
[02:33] <mustang97> Hackmo, wow.. that coulda came in handy yesterday..  I had to figure out bout the c compiler as well..  thanks
[02:33] <ally> i didnt install the right ones
[02:33] <ally> i need to install another one
[02:33] <sethk> ally, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:33] <zntneo_> whats the best way to configure ubuntu to login and get a kerb ticket
[02:33] <ally> umm how
[02:33] <hellz_hunter> _jason, details button?
[02:34] <Warbo> ally: Install all of the resolutions and it uses the highest possible. I've never seen an Ubuntu system which cjooses a too-high resolution.
[02:34] <Hackmo> mustang97: np...you should always check the fourms when you have a problem.  The majority of the time someone else has had the same problem as you and someone else has solved it
[02:34] <sethk> ally, open a terminal, and type in:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:34] <ally> i need to know how to install more resolutions
[02:34] <zntneo_> anyone?
[02:34] <antisocial_boris> how do i make it so a password is required to shutdown my pc via the system menu?
[02:35] <Warbo> antisocial_boris: You don't want that! If it is impossible for someone to shut down they will just kill the power and corrupt your system
[02:35] <george_> warbo--- i have 2 routers- 1 have a pppoe conection and 1 have wwifi to remote desktop
[02:36] <george_> for 2 computer
[02:36] <sethk> antisocial_boris, do visudo, remove the authority for non-root users to run shutdown
[02:36] <Warbo> george: I got 2 because it was cheaper, but now my WiFi don't work :(
[02:36] <DBO> antisocial_boris, thats a bad security measure though, unless the physical box is secure, people will just press the button...
[02:36] <tonyyarusso> ally: Did you see the link from ubotu?  That's a pretty complete guide that does the trick for most users.
[02:36] <george_> the distan of 1 of the computer  1kl
[02:36] <antisocial_boris> only i really use it, but almost aways sudo shutdown -h, it just seems weird that by using the mouse you dont need a password but through the terminal you do
[02:37] <george_> mas o menoos
[02:37] <zntneo_> i'll ask again to make sure everyone saw me        how do i get ubuntu to automatically get a kerb ticket on login
[02:37] <george_> warbo-- hablas espaol
[02:37] <Seveas> !es
[02:37] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:37] <Warbo> george: I don't speak spanish
[02:37] <george_> ooo
[02:37] <antisocial_boris> im not worried about the security of my computer since noone can use it without my permission
[02:38] <george_> 1 of my router conect to internet
[02:38] <Warbo> antisocial_boris: Is this just to learn how, or is it for a proper purpose?
[02:38] <ally> thank you guys
[02:38] <george_> warbo and other conect wired for a wifi
[02:39] <george_> warbo the router for wifi conection is linksys
[02:40] <Warbo> george: I use a BT Voyager router to connect to the Internet, but DHCP won't work with the Netgear wireless one. It worked fine by just plugging it in at first but now it won't
[02:40] <george_> and  conect to internet in conection pppoe belkin
[02:40] <nickrud> antisocial_boris, pam (see /etc/pam.conf and /etc/pam.d/) controls some permission accesses, IIRC that's how the shutdown from gnome is allowed
[02:40] <Warbo> george: also my WiFi card screws up Ubuntu completely when I boot with it in
[02:40] <Kr0ntab> antisocial_boris, thats like saying I don't worry about houshold security... because I make sure everyone knocks before they com into my house.
[02:40] <george_> the segurity
[02:40] <george_> warbo
[02:41] <Warbo> george: ?
[02:41] <zntneo_> does no one know or is everyone ignoring me
[02:41] <Warbo> zntneo: I don't know what it is
[02:41] <george_> y have the mac adress segurity an web segurity
[02:41] <geronimo89> could anyone give me a helping hand with dapper and xgl?
[02:41] <ExcaliBer> Hello how is everyone doing?
[02:41] <mram> hello
[02:41] <zntneo_> i'm kinda down
[02:41] <Warbo> geronimo: #ubuntu+1 and #ubuntu-xgl
[02:41] <ExcaliBer> Why?
[02:42] <zntneo_> dunno
[02:42] <geronimo89> Warbo, I tried
[02:42] <ExcaliBer> You need any help?
[02:42] <geronimo89> I do
[02:42] <ExcaliBer> = )
[02:42] <george_> warbo the mac adress segurity is active
[02:42] <ExcaliBer> Whats the problem?
[02:42] <zntneo_> well i'm trying to figure out how to use kerberos with ubuntu
[02:42] <geronimo89> xgl on dapper drake
[02:42] <zntneo_> on login
[02:42] <zntneo_> and no one here knows how
[02:42] <geronimo89> compiz is not starting correctly
[02:42] <Warbo> geronimo89: Well, I have it working (well, HAD. Then I installed latest NVidia to get GLX+Composite)
[02:42] <daniel_bra_for> hi, i need help with gcc-3.4, i installed it, but when i type gcc -v, no command is found
[02:42] <jadaz87> !tell geronimo89 about xgl
[02:42] <_jason> zntneo_: how do you get a kerberos ticket after login, is it some command?
[02:42] <ExcaliBer> Ok let me see.
[02:42] <ExcaliBer> Brb.
[02:43] <uriel_> heh
[02:43] <ally> umm im back again and i need to know how to check the little boxes in setup
[02:43] <uriel_> im installing livecd from under qemu.
[02:43] <geronimo89> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto <-- I'm following this
[02:43] <Warbo> ally: use Tab to switch between the options and Space for checking boxes
[02:43] <geronimo89> but when I try to start compiz it says: compiz.real: Couldn't open display
[02:43] <ally> thanks
[02:43] <daniel_bra_for> i need help to setup gcc-3.4, anyone?
[02:43] <nickrud> daniel_bra_for, gcc in ubuntu is 4.0.2, if you sudo apt-get install build-essential that's what it will say.
[02:43] <Warbo> ally: Only use Enter for OK/Cancel
[02:43] <zntneo_> yes jason its kinit
[02:44] <zntneo_> sorry i kinda new to irc don't know how to do the fancy stuff
[02:44] <daniel_bra_for> nickrud, but the kernel was compiled with gcc-3.4.5
[02:44] <ExcaliBer> zntneo_,http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/hoary/net/freeradius-krb5
[02:44] <ExcaliBer> Go there.
[02:44] <ExcaliBer> I think you might like it.
[02:44] <nickrud> daniel_bra_for, for kernel stuff (as far as I know, the ony reason you need 3.4) try export CC='gcc-3.4' before running /kernel/module compiles
[02:44] <geronimo89> ExcaliBer, do you have a working xgl?
[02:44] <Warbo> geranimo89: Sorry, mine worked straight off and no problems (until now, but I know what caused it) You are using a binary driver right? (nvidia or fglrx)
[02:44] <ExcaliBer> = D
[02:44] <ExcaliBer> I have to check.
[02:44] <ExcaliBer> To make sure.
[02:44] <geronimo89> Warbo, I have nvidia
[02:45] <ExcaliBer> zntneo_,Is that what you was looking for?
[02:45] <Warbo> geranimo89: Do you have Option "RenderAccel" "true" on? It speeds up, but I don't think it's crucial
[02:45] <zntneo_> not quite
[02:45] <geronimo89> Warbo, I have
[02:45] <ExcaliBer> What are you trying to do anyways?
[02:45] <zntneo_> i'm looking for when i login it uses kinit to get a ticket at login time
[02:46] <ExcaliBer> Kinit huh?
[02:46] <_jason> zntneo_: maybe 'lstart' in the repos?  Or you could jsut try adding the command to system > prefs > sessions > startup?
[02:46] <george_> warbo in router desctive mac adress segurity and web segurity an d  try
[02:46] <_jason> zntneo_: s/lstart/kstart
[02:46] <george_> warbo for test
[02:46] <Warbo> geronimo89: As far as I know if you can run GLXGears or something then XGL should work. After that it's just a matter of regular X permissions etc.
[02:46] <jinho> Is it normal for the video to be say, a little choppy- for instance when I log off it fades very choppily- is this true for everyone?
[02:46] <zntneo_> how do you guys do what your doing my messaging just me?
[02:46] <geronimo89> glxgears?
[02:46] <_jason> zntneo_: _ja<tab> and then just type your message
[02:47] <Warbo> geronimo89: It's just a little 3D app, if 3D works then XGL works
[02:47] <zntneo_> _jason, does that allow for login authentication
[02:47] <geronimo89> ok
[02:47] <Warbo> george: Sorry, I don't get what you mean?
[02:47] <george_> ooooooo
[02:47] <zntneo_> ExcaliBer, do you understand what i mean
[02:47] <_jason> zntneo_: I do not know, I don't use it.  I'm just throwing it out there for you to check it out
[02:47] <venin> hi
[02:47] <Warbo> venin: hello
[02:48] <george_> bay
[02:48] <jramsey> trying to hand install flash as firefox plugin; downloaded the plugin from macromedia, and wiki and mozdev say to install in ~/.mozilla/plugins but i can't find this folder
[02:48] <ExcaliBer> Hold on.
[02:48] <codecaine> anybody know why I get this error when trying to run aireplay airodump runs fine This program only works with HostAP's wlan#ap interface.
[02:48] <zntneo_> _jason, doesn't seem like it would know my username and password
[02:48] <jadaz87> jramsey it is /home/jramsey/.mozilla/plugins
[02:48] <Warbo> jramsey: If you have permission then you should put it in /lib/(mozilla something, depending on browser)
[02:48] <codecaine> using atheros madwifi card
[02:48] <Warbo> sorry /usr/lib
[02:49] <geronimo89> Warbo, glxgears is not working
[02:49] <ExcaliBer> So you were trying to do what again?
[02:49] <venin> ive recently installed ipw2200 and etc.. but i get this small red square next to the network connection (wireless). and i have no internet apparently, how can i check whats wrong? dmesg | grep ipw doesnt show anything bad
[02:49] <Warbo> geronimo89: What happens? Do you have Composite on?
[02:49] <Daskies> What's the command to show what processes are running again?
[02:49] <zntneo_> ExcaliBer, get a kerb ticket at login
[02:49] <Warbo> Daskies: ps aux
[02:50] <zntneo_> ExcaliBer, using my login username and password
[02:50] <ExcaliBer> Ok hold on.
[02:50] <zntneo_> i know you can do it with like fedora core
[02:50] <Warbo> venin: Sorry, I'm bad at networks.
[02:50] <venin> ok:p
[02:50] <geronimo89> xlib: extension "glx" missing on display "o.o".error: coundt get an rgb. double buffered visual
[02:50] <mram> whould you guys happen to know how is ubuntu on a hp laptop with drivers?
[02:50] <Warbo> geronimo89: OK, do you know how to edit the xorg.conf file?
[02:50] <jadaz87> mram what laptop?
[02:50] <zntneo_> anyone happen to know how to user an lexmark z715 with ubuntu     just curious
[02:51] <jramsey> jadaz87, Warbo do i need to restart firefox after moving the proper plugin files to .mozilla/plugins??
[02:51] <geronimo89> Warbo, yes
[02:51] <jadaz87> jramsey probably so
[02:51] <ExcaliBer> Almost done hold on.
[02:51] <Warbo> geronimo89: Well make sure that nvidia is used not nv and in Modules section make sure there is GLX but no DRI or GLCore
[02:51] <zntneo_> you shouldn't have to move any files just make a sym link
[02:52] <jadaz87> !tell mram about laptop
[02:52] <geronimo89> Warbo, nvidia is not mentioned
[02:52] <mram> jadaz87 hp dv5000 with a amd turion
[02:52] <tonyyarusso> mram: I don't have experience, but I've been trying to read up on it, so here's my summary to be taken with a grain of salt: Generally HPs have been pretty good with the notable exception of the built-in card reader.  However, I've begun to hear reports that this works under Dapper Flight 6, so prospects are bright.
[02:52] <Warbo> geronimo89: OK, before when I said nvidia or fglrx i meant drivers, not cards. OK, I'll walk you through it
[02:53] <blindx> What should I do if I get the following error: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[02:53] <geronimo89> okay found it Warbo
[02:53] <_jason> blindx: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[02:53] <blindx> build-essential, thats right
[02:53] <blindx> thanks
[02:53] <geronimo89> Warbo, there was a "driver" named nv
[02:53] <geronimo89> renamed id
[02:53] <geronimo89> it*
[02:53] <geronimo89> will try again
[02:53] <Warbo> geronimo89: OK, that is the free driver, but it doesn't do 3D
[02:53] <zntneo_> whats the plus to using aptitude over apt-get?
[02:54] <mram> tonyyarusso thank you, the one i am planning on getting idn't going be with a build in card reader, i am wondering also if i can get xgl working on it
[02:54] <_jason> zntneo_: keeps track of deps that get installed
[02:54] <geronimo89> Warbo, I have installed the nvidia-glx package
[02:54] <Warbo> geronimo89: You will need the non-free (but no cost) nvidia driver. The easiest way is to install the nvidia-glx package
[02:54] <Warbo> geronimo89: OK
[02:54] <jramsey> jadaz87, im guessing it's flash but firefox says "unknown plugin" and thats when i selected manual install; it doesnt seem to matter that i manually installed it
[02:54] <geronimo89> but still same error message
[02:54] <zntneo_> _jason, thanks always wondered. Why is it in the ubuntu docs they are always using apt-get
[02:54] <Warbo> geronimo89: If you try changing nv to nvidia and restart X
[02:55] <geronimo89> okay
[02:55] <Noisy_1> I installed gnome and now it has no video output. It shows bus activity on case light but nothing else
[02:55] <tonyyarusso> mram: I'd recommend reading around yourself on 1) The Ubuntu wiki Laptop Testing pages, 2) tuxmobil, 3) linux-on-laptops.  Google seems to be reasonably good for this sort of specific search too.
[02:55] <Noisy_1> should I restart?
[02:55] <Warbo> Noisy_1: Does your monitor get a signal (mine flashes when no signeal)
[02:55] <mram> tonyyarusso thank you i shall do that
[02:55] <geronimo89> Warbo, same error message
[02:55] <_jason> zntneo_: ask the doc writers :)  apt-get has been around longer is probably the main reason.  So more people are used to it
[02:55] <Noisy_1> there is signal
[02:56] <blindx> What's the package name for XML::Parser (a perl module)
[02:56] <ally> what is the command for changeing your resolutions again for the shelll
[02:56] <ExcaliBer> Sorry i don't know anything about the kerb.
[02:56] <Warbo> geronimo89: Well, I would expect a different one. OK, can you start regular X (not XGL) with the nvidia driver (let's get it working before we do the fancy stuff)
[02:56] <ExcaliBer> You just want it to save your password or something?
[02:56] <Warbo> ally: No command, just press ctrl alt + or - (on NumPad)
[02:57] <venin> ive recently installed ipw2200 and etc.. but i get this small red square next to the network connection (wireless). and i have no internet apparently, how can i check whats wrong? dmesg | grep ipw doesnt show anything bad
[02:57] <_jason> blindx: apt-cache search --names-only lib xml parser perl
[02:57] <Warbo> Noisy_1: Can you get in a terminal? (ctrl alt f1)
[02:57] <geronimo89> Warbo, don't know, but does not look like it's started, eh?
[02:57] <ally> no i need the one to install new ones
[02:57] <blindx> didn't return anything, _jason
[02:57] <Warbo> ally: OK. "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:57] <geronimo89> Warbo, will reboot
[02:57] <_jason> !info libxml-parser-perl
[02:58] <ubotu> libxml-parser-perl: (Perl module for parsing XML files), section perl, is optional. Version: 2.34-4 (breezy), Packaged size: 285 kB, Installed size: 708 kB
[02:58] <Warbo> geronimo89: no reboot neede
[02:58] <_jason> blindx: you either made a typo or don't have breezy main enabled in your sources
[02:58] <mram> dapper flight6 seems to be stable on my system, i don't know why they delayed it
[02:58] <Warbo> geronimo89: Do you know a few terminal commands?
[02:58] <blindx> lemme double check.. :\
[02:58] <geronimo89> Warbo, a few
[02:58] <Conjurer> mram: usability issues (according to shuttleworth)
[02:59] <Warbo> geronimo89: If you press ctrl-alt-f1 you get in a terminal. Do all of your work from there and use "/etc/init.d/gdm restart" to try X
[02:59] <mram> Conjurer: really...hmmm oh well better be safe than sorry
[02:59] <geronimo89> Warbo, glxgears working, will try the tut again
[02:59] <kh40s> can someone help me getting the firewire interface working?
[02:59] <codecaine_> hi
[02:59] <Warbo> mram: It works, but it's not fantastic enough yet!
[02:59] <tonyyarusso> mram: One (of many) things was better support for the increasingly important Asian languages, so some of the delay results won't even be seen by English users.  Then of course there's the "polish" we hear so much about.
[03:00] <mram> Warbo: it really needs xgl
[03:00] <Warbo> geronimo89: If glxgears works (it should be really fast) with nvidia instead of nv then XGL should be fine
[03:00] <ExcaliBer> kh40s:whats wrong?
[03:00] <Warbo> mram: Maybe, but I don't like it. I'm on standard xcompmgr at the mo'
[03:00] <zntneo> ExcaliBer, did you figure it out
[03:00] <kh40s> ExcaliBer: I'm not seeing my external DVD drive in the list
[03:00] <ExcaliBer> I found the software for it.
[03:00] <mram> tonyyarusso i see, they also need to finish up all the icons as well, and some art work
[03:00] <geronimo89> Warbo, same error message when I try to start compiz
[03:01] <ally> do you need to restart in order for your effects to take place
[03:01] <tonyyarusso> mram: Yep.
[03:01] <ExcaliBer> What list are you speaking of/
[03:01] <ExcaliBer> ?
[03:01] <tonyyarusso> ally: Not usually.  You may have to restart the component involved, like X.
[03:01] <Warbo> ally: Just restart X. Press ctrl-alt-f1, log in then type "/etc/init.d/gdm restart" to bring X back up
[03:01] <codecaine_> I installed hostapd how do I use it so I have a wlan interface?
[03:01] <geronimo89> Warbo, compiz.real: Couldn't open display
[03:01] <kh40s> ExcaliBer: the File Browser... shouldn't I see it ther?
[03:02] <blindx> I just reinstalled ubuntu.. and when I had it before, I did something and it automatically mounted my slave drive.. I can't find this again, anyone know where it is?
[03:02] <ExcaliBer> Did you try propositories>?
[03:02] <Warbo> geronimo89: So you are sure that nvidia is in the xorg.conf file? Does Modules section have GLX? Which version of driver is it? (I broke mine with NVidia's package, not Ubuntu's)
[03:02] <ExcaliBer> System>Administration>synaptic package manager
[03:03] <geronimo89> Warbo, glx is there, driver is: nv36.2
[03:03] <PuMpErNiCkEl> blindx: You'd need a line with the details for that drive in /etc/fstab with the 'auto' option.
[03:03] <codecaine_> anybody know how to use hostapd?
[03:03] <kh40s> ExcaliBer: propositories?  I searched for that and didn't find anything in the Synaptics Package Manager
[03:04] <Warbo> geronimo89: There is absolutely no way in the universe (not the repository) to get XGL when using "nv" driver You NEED "nvidia" instead
[03:04] <PuMpErNiCkEl> ...I think
[03:04] <Warbo> kh40s: I think he means Repositories. Settings > Repositories
[03:04] <ExcaliBer> oh sorry its the list of packeges
[03:04] <blindx> I don't remember doing anything but clicking on a button, and it was less than a week ago...
[03:04] <geronimo89> Warbo, the nv36.2 is only the version
[03:04] <ExcaliBer> did you try updating your ubuntu?
[03:04] <ExcaliBer> Try doing that
[03:04] <geronimo89> it's full name is something with nvidia bla bla
[03:05] <ExcaliBer> zntneo_,try this http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/breezy/web/libapache-mod-auth-kerb
[03:05] <kh40s> ExcaliBer: updating what packages? Or do you mean to update from 5.1 to 6.x?
[03:05] <ExcaliBer> Yes.
[03:05] <ally> umm in in the black shell screen how do i go back to my gui
[03:06] <PuMpErNiCkEl> blindx: You can change that in System -> administration -> disks, I think.
[03:06] <Warbo> geronimo89: Do "ls /lib/modules/*18*/kernel/drivers/video/"
[03:06] <ExcaliBer> zntneo_, try this http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/breezy/web/libapache-mod-auth-kerb
[03:06] <Warbo> if there is "nvidia.ko" then it is installed
[03:06] <ExcaliBer> ant?
[03:06] <ExcaliBer> ant?
[03:06] <ExcaliBer> znt
[03:06] <Conjurer> ally: if you went into terminal-mode using Ctrl-Alt-F2, then you can press tr-Alt-F7 to return to X mode
[03:07] <ally> tr
[03:07] <ally> tr?
[03:07] <Warbo> ally: Use ctrl-al-f7 to get back. If it's not on use "/etc/init.d/gdm strart" or restart instead of start
[03:07] <zntneo> ExcaliBer: isn't that for apache
[03:07] <ally> ok thanks
[03:07] <Conjurer> oops... that's Ctrl-Alt-F7 for X mode
[03:07] <geronimo89> Warbo, there is no *18*
[03:07] <butterfly_> is there any garden designing app available for ubuntu?
[03:07] <ExcaliBer> Oops sorry.
[03:07] <ExcaliBer> I don't know anything about kerb.
[03:07] <Warbo> geronimo89: OOps! Sorry!
[03:07] <zntneo> no problem
[03:08] <ExcaliBer> Never used it.
[03:08] <Warbo> geronimo89: That's mine. Just put your own kernel version, or if you inly have 1 kernel installed use a *
[03:08] <ExcaliBer> Why dont you search for it on http://www.google.com/linux
[03:08] <geronimo89> Warbo, there is 2.6.15-19-386 and 2.6.15-20-386 instead
[03:08] <zntneo> well how do you enable login authentication
[03:08] <butterfly_> thanks Excal
[03:08] <ExcaliBer> Login authentication?
[03:09] <ExcaliBer> don't you type in your username and pw on the start up?
[03:09] <zntneo> like to maybe ldap
[03:09] <blindx> PuMpErNiCkEl, that's not it, either :\
[03:09] <zntneo> network login authentication
[03:09] <Warbo> geronimo89: Yes, I'm using 2.6.15-18-386 'cos I'm running on a USB hard drive which my PC can't boot, so it is booting from a CD onto the HD. Because I can't be bothered to rewqrite the disc each tiny kernel upgrade I don't upgrade kernel
[03:09] <ExcaliBer> Just network?
[03:09] <butterfly_> what should I look for?
[03:09] <ExcaliBer> Nothing in network
[03:09] <ExcaliBer> ?
[03:09] <geronimo89> Warbo, there are some folders, and there is a nvidia folder too
[03:10] <Khaaaaan> Guys.... what will play quicktime videos in Firefox?
[03:10] <Conjurer> mplayerplug-in?
[03:10] <_jason> Khaaaaan: mplayer plugin with w32codecs
[03:10] <ExcaliBer> Or just get Internet explorer for linux.
[03:10] <geronimo89> doh!
[03:10] <ExcaliBer> ies4linux
[03:10] <Warbo> geronimo89: No. The nvidia folder is nothing to do with it. If there is nothing called "nvidia.ko" in that exact folder then you don't have the nvidia driver, just the nv driver
[03:10] <jramsey> isnt the java runtime environment pluging installed by default with firefox??
[03:10] <_jason> jramsey: no
[03:10] <_jason> ubotu: tell Khaaaaan about mplayer
[03:10] <zntneo> no not IE ahh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[03:10] <_jason> ubotu: tell Khaaaaan about w32codecs
[03:11] <ExcaliBer> LOL!!!
[03:11] <jramsey> _jason, ok txs will go get it
[03:11] <kh40s> ExcaliBer: What did you want me to update?
[03:11] <ExcaliBer> Ubuntu
[03:11] <geronimo89> there is no such file Warbo
[03:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell jramsey about javadebs
[03:11] <Khaaaaan> mplayer ... ah man :(
[03:11] <ExcaliBer> Is it fully updated?
[03:11] <blindx> How do I get access to my other harddrive?
[03:11] <kh40s> ExcaliBer:  Yes
[03:11] <zntneo> IE is the devil
[03:11] <ExcaliBer> Hmm.
[03:11] <_jason> Khaaaaan: hmm?
[03:11] <geronimo89> !nvidia
[03:11] <Warbo> geronimo89: OK, you don't have it. There are a few ways of getting it but easiest is nvidia-glx
[03:11] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[03:11] <Conjurer> Is it possible to control the order in which services at the same runlevel are executed?
[03:11] <geronimo89> Warbo, I have nvidia-glx :(
[03:12] <Warbo> geronimo89: I know
[03:12] <Khaaaaan> I hate mplayer
[03:12] <ExcaliBer> Brb.
[03:12] <Warbo> geronimo89: I like to do it with module assistant. Install module-assistant package
[03:12] <mavric2001> hmmm dapper drunk seems to work quite nicely
[03:12] <_jason> Khaaaaan: why? mplayer is awesome
[03:12] <mavric2001> vlc is better
[03:12] <blindx> How do I get access to my other harddrive?
[03:12] <mavric2001> no pesky codecs to contend with
[03:12] <Warbo> Khaaaaaaan: Totem's far better than MPlayer (but it has no mencoder equivalent)
[03:13] <_jason> blindx: mount it.  What filesystem is it?
[03:13] <blindx> ntfs
[03:13] <Khaaaaan> Is there a pakcage for it?
[03:13] <ExcaliBer> Yes get wine and download vlc.
[03:13] <_jason> Khaaaaan: check your private messages
[03:13] <mavric2001> khaaaaan; sudo apt-get install vlc
[03:13] <blindx> I tried mount /dev/hdb1
[03:13] <blindx> but it won't mount
[03:13] <_jason> blindx: what happens when you try
[03:13] <Warbo> Khaaaaaan: Totem comes with Ubuntu. There is a plugin. Search Synaptic for "mozilla" and you'll see it
[03:13] <seb48273> I just attempted a default install which hung at 25% of initializing apt-repository, any ideas?
[03:13] <blindx> uh lemme try again
[03:13] <ExcaliBer> You need wine for vlc.
[03:13] <mavric2001> bullshit
[03:13] <blindx> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[03:13] <_jason> !info vlc
[03:13] <mavric2001> its in the repositories
[03:13] <geronimo89> Warbo, i try
[03:13] <ExcaliBer> sudo apt-get wine
[03:13] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[03:14] <Warbo> ExcaliBer: What? Is QT not in w32codecs?
[03:14] <Warbo> That's QuickTime, not QT
[03:14] <Khaaaaan> Why doesnt xine do it?
[03:14] <Khaaaaan> off
[03:14] <Khaaaaan> odd
[03:14] <ExcaliBer> Hmm.
[03:14] <_jason> Khaaaaan: xine do what?
[03:14] <mavric2001> if its codecs you want check out easyubuntu
[03:14] <Khaaaaan> Play the movie
[03:15] <_jason> Khaaaaan: have you installed w32codecs?
[03:15] <Khaaaaan> Indeed
[03:15] <Khaaaaan> omg
[03:15] <Khaaaaan> oops
[03:15] <Warbo> Khaaaaan: Try automatix, but it screws up the system to be like windoze
[03:15] <codecaine> anybody got aireplay to run on unbuntu?
[03:15] <_jason> !automatix
[03:15] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[03:15] <Khaaaaan> I didnt install the plugin
[03:15] <Khaaaaan> duh
[03:15] <mavric2001> easyubuntu is a better choice
[03:15] <cyberboy> hey
[03:15] <cyberboy> nice shit :)
[03:15] <cyberboy> im amused
[03:15] <cyberboy> lol
[03:15] <_jason> !enter
[03:15] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[03:15] <NickGarvey> !Languange
[03:15] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[03:15] <NickGarvey> !Language
[03:15] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[03:15] <geronimo89> Warbo, got it, what now
[03:16] <geronimo89> ?
[03:16] <Warbo> geronimo89: Go into a terminal and type "m-a"
[03:16] <blindx> _jason
[03:16] <blindx> er.. my paste was lost.
[03:16] <kh40s> ExcaliBer: Would any log files be useful?
[03:16] <Warbo> geronimo89: Tell it to update (it update's apt's lists) and Prepare (get's kernel-headers needed for building modules and rrivers)
[03:16] <blindx> _jason: mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[03:17] <ExcaliBer> Hmm not sure.
[03:17] <HellDragon> hi, thats not a ubuntu question i know but how can i have my own channel with a chanserv on it to dont lost my op status when i leave ?
[03:17] <zntneo> what is pam used for
[03:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell blindx about mount
[03:17] <cafuego> HellDragon: '/msg chanserv help'
[03:17] <mavric2001> pam is a newsreader
[03:17] <HellDragon> thankies
[03:17] <Warbo> zntneo: PAM controls permission, passwords, etc.
[03:18] <HellDragon> forgot that lol
[03:18] <geronimo89> Warbo, that takes time, eh?
[03:18] <cyberboy> HellDragon, put up a bot
[03:18] <Warbo> mavric: It it?
[03:18] <HellDragon> chanserv doesnt respond
[03:18] <zntneo> Warbo: could it be used for network permission
[03:18] <HellDragon> nvm.
[03:18] <Warbo> geronimo89: It doesn't upgrade the system, just updates the lists
[03:18] <cyberboy> get a shell
[03:18] <blindx> ohhhhh yeahhhh
[03:18] <blindx> diskmounter.
[03:18] <cyberboy> and use eggdrop :) .. version 1.1.5 should be stable
[03:18] <kh40s> ExcaliBer: I was reading about a patch for /drivers/ieee1394.c for toshiba laptops.  Would that be helpful, and if so, how could I install it?
[03:18] <Warbo> zntneo: I'm not sure. Networking is done with SSH and such, which have their own system
[03:18] <geronimo89> Warbo, oh, okay
[03:19] <mavric2001> errr my bad thats pan
[03:19] <ExcaliBer> Yes it would.
[03:19] <cyberboy> the internet should stay. in searchlist's and such . just make a search at altavista. i would like to belive in, getting a host from you're own country
[03:19] <ExcaliBer> if you want to install ie for linux get ies4linux
[03:19] <kh40s> ExcaliBer: correction, the file name is /drivers/ieee1394/ohci1394.c
[03:19] <cyberboy> would be for the better
[03:19] <ExcaliBer> You talking about internet explorer?
[03:19] <ExcaliBer> Or something else?
[03:20] <cyberboy> the maintaining of a channal . not getting lost among the thousen of users
[03:20] <cyberboy> :)
[03:20] <kh40s> ExcaliBer: ieee1394 is firewire driver.  How do I install the patch into the system?
[03:20] <m5m> I'm having a chronic problem getting my system time set right... it appears that kubuntu thinks I live in UTC, though my timezone is set to "los angeles" (correct) I still get UTC timestamps when I use 'date'... any ideas?
[03:21] <m5m> What's more I once succeeded in changing the time back to correct and I got stuck in these vicious cycles where sudo wouldn't work because of a bogus timestamp on the sudoers file or something.  It was so complicated that I ended up giving up.  It's irking me again.
[03:21] <cyberboy> just change it
[03:21] <cyberboy> perhaps the bios got a role in this play
[03:21] <cyberboy> using further informations. like its picking it up. from scratch, root. i think its a feature for some of the systems
[03:22] <m5m> cyberboy: that's a possibility, but I think ubuntu has control of the bios time, if I'm not mistaken
[03:22] <Warbo> m5m: Are you dual booting with windoze?
[03:22] <cyberboy> just like power manager . / saver, for that matter
[03:22] <GTX> how do I make a command repeat itself
[03:22] <cyberboy> its an option. i would like to belive in
[03:22] <GTX> every 5seconds in ssh
[03:22] <cyberboy> just got the question
[03:22] <cyberboy> lol :)
[03:22] <m5m> Warbo: I have a small Windows partition on a 2ndary hardrive, but I have to change my bootorder to use it... which I rarely do
[03:22] <Warbo> GTX: use "sleep 5" in a script with a for loop
[03:23] <blindx> What's a good burning program?
[03:23] <GTX> Warbo, How do I make a loop?
[03:23] <kh40s> can someone help me with a .patch file?
[03:23] <Warbo> m5m: It's just that there are some dodgy clock fixes which work fine in Linux but screw up Windoze time
[03:23] <mavric2001> blinx: k3b
[03:23] <cyberboy> nero for windows. elsewhere. there should be some default ones
[03:23] <kh40s> I need to update the firewire driver for my system
[03:23] <m5m> Warbo: I don't care what Windows thinks at all
[03:23] <cyberboy> wine is a good program / dosbox
[03:24] <Warbo> GTX: "for ((;1;)); do command ; done" That is an infinite loop running "command"
[03:24] <geronimo89> Warbo, takes a few minutes
[03:24] <cyberboy> to drop in and out
[03:24] <Rug> Howdy all
[03:24] <Warbo> AAA! Where's the Smiley come from?
[03:24] <cyberboy> just like dos
[03:24] <GTX> Warbo, does the 1 mean 1 second?
[03:24] <Warbo> It is semicolon 1 semicolon bracketr bracket
[03:24] <GTX> :S
[03:24] <ExcaliBer> Hi rug.
[03:24] <GTX> ?
[03:24] <cyberboy> makes you're stuff running 32 bits versions. out of everything else :)
[03:24] <GTX> Warbo, Can you put one with sleep 5 in it
[03:24] <Warbo> GTX: No. For keeps going until that number is zero. 1 is never zero so infinite loop
[03:25] <GTX> How do I put sleep in it?
[03:25] <Warbo> GTX, well it is a multi-line script. I'll pu it in the pastebin thing
[03:25] <GTX> ta
[03:25] <m5m> so you have any tips Warbo to set the time right?  keeping in mind that my only concern is not losing sudo power because of some future timestamp on my sudoers file?
[03:25] <Warbo> geronimo89: I'll get back in a sec, helping GTX
[03:25] <geronimo89> Warbo, alright
[03:25] <Rug> Odd NFS problem;  I have 2 mount points on my server, (both have identical perms in /etc/exports) one I can mount the other I cannot.   Any ideas?
[03:25] <ExcaliBer> Do you have the file with you?
[03:26] <ExcaliBer> theskunk,Hello
[03:26] <geronimo89> Warbo, it's building
[03:27] <ExcaliBer> Hey do you guys know about the firmware coming out for the psp
[03:27] <ExcaliBer> ?
[03:27] <ExcaliBer> 3.0
[03:27] <ExcaliBer> = D
[03:27] <DewDude> ......
[03:27] <ExcaliBer> lol
[03:27] <geronimo89> Warbo, but this file you mentioned is still not there
[03:28] <cyberboy> damned
[03:29] <cyberboy> it was too perfect
[03:29] <ExcaliBer> I don't have a toshiba laptop just to let you know.
[03:29] <zntneo> can i ask an irc question?
[03:29] <ExcaliBer> I have a Dell Dimension 3000.
[03:29] <geronimo89> yes
[03:29] <Warbo> GTX: Here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12412
[03:29] <kh40s> ExcaliBer:  Ok... but do you know how to install a .patch file?
[03:29] <zntneo> whats the best way to find binaries
[03:29] <ExcaliBer> Ok gold on,
[03:29] <Warbo> geronimo89: I'm back. OK, go to SELECT in module assidtant (m-a)
[03:30] <geronimo89> i selected nvidia
[03:30] <brandon_> what's the name of the surround mixer that gnome uses?
[03:30] <geronimo89> I builded and installed
[03:30] <geronimo89> but this file is still missing O.o
[03:30] <Warbo> geronimo89: Well try sudo "modprobe nvidia"
[03:30] <kh40s> ExcaliBer: http://www.janerob.com/rob/ts5100/tosh-1394.patch
[03:30] <cyphase> does anyone know of a firefox extension that lets you add feeds to a third party feed reader?
[03:31] <geronimo89> Warbo, no output
[03:31] <Warbo> geronimo89: That's good!
[03:31] <geronimo89> kidding?
[03:31] <brandon_> cyphase: i don't know of one, but you can do that with konqueror, if you have kde
[03:31] <Warbo> geronimo89: OK, now "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[03:31] <m5m> does anyone know the commands that change the system's date?  I'm stuck on UTC and would like to change to PST, but the Kubuntu Gui isn't doing it, and I don't want to get stuck with my sudoers dir timestamped the future.
[03:31] <CapnDoody> does anyone know what the kerenel source tree directory for ubuntu?
[03:32] <geronimo89> Warbo, yeah
[03:32] <Warbo> CapnDoody: /lib/modules/(kernel)/build
[03:32] <blindx> How can I make my desktop icons smaller automatically?
[03:32] <CapnDoody> Warbo, by deafult, right?
[03:32] <Warbo> geronimo89: OK, now in "Device" section make sure Driver "nvidia"
[03:33] <Warbo> CapnDoody: It's a symlink I think
[03:33] <nickrud> blindx, by changing the zoom factor in System->Preferences->File Manager
[03:33] <CapnDoody> Warbo: i'm not familar with the term symlink
[03:33] <Warbo> geronimo89: Then in Modules look for GLX, GLCore and DRI
[03:34] <geronimo89> glcore is not there
[03:34] <geronimo89> should I add it?
[03:34] <Warbo> CapnDoody: Symbolic Link. The directory isn't actually there, but there is a link that you can use in just the same way as the directory
[03:34] <Warbo> geronimo89: No. DRI and GLCore should NOT be there
[03:34] <geronimo89> deleted dri
[03:34] <geronimo89> now?
[03:35] <DewDude> it's like shortcut in Windows
[03:35] <Warbo> geronimo89: Now in Device add the line: Option "RenderAccel" "true"
[03:35] <geronimo89> Warbo, done
[03:35] <Warbo> DewDude: Not really. Windows is a file with ".lnk" extension, symlink is basically just a directory.
[03:35] <DewDude> ..true
[03:36] <geronimo89> there is Option "NvAGP" "1", too
[03:36] <Warbo> geronimo89: OK. Now ctrl-x, y, Enter to save it
[03:36] <Warbo> geronimo89: That's fine
[03:36] <DewDude> real quick...will ubuntu pick up things  like USB jump drives automatically...or have i got to do a bunch of stuff to it?
[03:36] <geronimo89> Warbo, okay
[03:36] <_jason> DewDude: it picks up mine, ymmv
[03:36] <cyberboy> shouldnt there be a root acount somewhere
[03:36] <Warbo> DewDude: Jump drive? Pen drives are fine if that's what you mean
[03:37] <_jason> ubotu: tell cyberboy about root
[03:37] <TraceGreen> Hello, Can ubuntu lived run just in memory?
[03:37] <mabus> Warbo: There are tons of names for them.
[03:37] <_jason> TraceGreen: that's exactly what it does
[03:37] <mabus> Pen drive, jump drive, flash drive, memory key, etc
[03:37] <Warbo> geronimo89: Now in a ctrl-alt-f1 terminal run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" and tell me what you see. If there is a nvidia logo it worked
[03:37] <ExcaliBer> Sorry i don't know alot of python.
[03:37] <TraceGreen> _jason, now, ubuntu livecd shoud use cdrom.
[03:37] <mabus> _jason: I think he wants to remove the cd, as in, like the tomem thing on damn small linux
[03:37] <ExcaliBer> There should be a readme on the file.
[03:38] <cyberboy> damnit
[03:38] <ExcaliBer> It should tell you everyhting
[03:38] <ExcaliBer> everything
[03:38] <_jason> TraceGreen: oh I misunderstood, thought you were just asking if it used the hard drive
[03:38] <AleXerTecH> please
[03:38] <ExcaliBer> ?
[03:38] <AleXerTecH> im really need help
[03:38] <Warbo> TraceGreen: Little hole in your drive? Shove a needle down it to eject the disc :)
[03:38] <TraceGreen> _jason, oh, now, i want use cdrom
[03:38] <ExcaliBer> Whats the problem?
[03:38] <geronimo89> Warbo, ehm, should I copy the xorg or the xgl folder into /etc/X11/X ?
[03:38] <AleXerTecH> i really need help with my laptop
[03:38] <DewDude> well...technically it's my PSP...but i believe it works using standard USB drive
[03:39] <ExcaliBer> Alexertach, whats the problem?
[03:39] <AleXerTecH> i have a cardbus dlink and ubunto 5.10
[03:39] <geronimo89> Warbo, with the xgl it does not work
[03:39] <TraceGreen> Warbo, ......
[03:39] <ExcaliBer> Ok?
[03:39] <AleXerTecH> and i cant make that thing works
[03:39] <Warbo> geronimo89: to run XGL all you need it to change the link /usr/bin/X that points to /usr/bin/Xorg to point to /usr/bin/Xgl
[03:39] <AleXerTecH> if i do iwconfig, it doesnt showup
[03:39] <dj-fu> Warbo, that's a very bad idea
[03:39] <ExcaliBer> So you trying to make Ubuntu work?
[03:39] <CapnDoody> Warbo: i'm tring to compile a driver for a new beta USB WLAN but i'm not able to run the "make config" command, why??
[03:39] <Warbo> dj-fu: Notice that smiley thinng?
[03:40] <geronimo89> sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/Xgl /etc/X11/X <-- this does not work
[03:40] <dj-fu> Can't say i did, actually
[03:40] <AleXerTecH> i need wireless connection
[03:40] <kingspawn> CapnDoody: what kind of errormsg do you get?
[03:40] <dj-fu> but yes, it does not work
[03:40] <AleXerTecH> in that laptop
[03:40] <ExcaliBer> Hmm..
[03:40] <ExcaliBer> You need a router.
[03:40] <CapnDoody> kingspawn: "command not found"
[03:40] <AleXerTecH> but the cardbus doesnt showup
[03:40] <Warbo> CapnDoody: I assume you are following the instructions. Usually there is just ./configure make make install
[03:40] <jramsey> i've changed permissions + owner of sources.list because i want to add a site that has the java plugin pkg; but i cannot save the updated sources list ... any ideas? do i need write access to the /etc/apt dir?
[03:40] <KrisWood> Hi everyone, is anyone here familiar with firestarter? Or does anyone know a better firewall gui to use?
[03:40] <kingspawn> CapnDoody: then sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:40] <dj-fu> geronimo89, Xgl only works on Dapper, see this post for instructions - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351
[03:40] <dj-fu> KrisWood, Yes, I use firestarter.
[03:40] <AleXerTecH> i know, but the cardbus doesnt show up to make a config
[03:41] <geronimo89> dj-fu, i know -.-
[03:41] <ExcaliBer> Hm.
[03:41] <Warbo> geronimo89: Did you see a line Option "NoLogo" "true" in your xorg.conf?
[03:41] <AleXerTecH> ExcaliBer, i try with the module ath_pci and doesnt work
[03:41] <geronimo89> Warbo, no, I'll check it
[03:41] <KrisWood> I'm trying to set up the firewall so that people inside the network can internet games at the same time, but firestarter only seems able to forward ports to one computer :-/
[03:41] <CapnDoody> my directions tell me to unpackage and run "Make Config"
[03:41] <geronimo89> but gdm does not start if sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/Xgl /etc/X11/X <--- this is done
[03:41] <ExcaliBer> You should go to wikis.
[03:41] <kingspawn> CapnDoody: well, do as i say to install make.
[03:42] <ExcaliBer> It solves all problems.
[03:42] <Warbo> geronimo89: That is useful, 'cos using NVidia driver shows the NVidia logo everytime you swich resolution. But it is useful to keep on so you know you are using the right driver
[03:42] <dj-fu> KrisWood, not sure how to do port forwarding sorry
[03:42] <ExcaliBer> I know alot about desktops.
[03:42] <ExcaliBer> But i don't know much about laptops.
[03:42] <KrisWood> :(
[03:42] <ExcaliBer> Sorry.
[03:42] <Warbo> geronimo89: In dapper they moved Xorg into /usr/bin
[03:43] <KrisWood> hmmm I wonder if firestarter has an irc
[03:43] <geronimo89> Warbo, this thing about nologo is not defined in the config
[03:43] <Warbo> geronimo89: "sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/Xgl /usr/bin/X"
[03:43] <Warbo> geronimo89: If there is nothing to do with NoLogo in the config then that is fine
[03:43] <CapnDoody> kingspawn: will that incorporate the files that are in this folder?
[03:43] <CapnDoody> kingspawn: for this driver install...
[03:44] <kingspawn> CapnDoody: what? no. it will install the tools you need to compile stuff. make compiles stuff. or rather, calls compilers to compile stuff.
[03:44] <geronimo89> Warbo, gnome can't start
[03:44] <CapnDoody> kingspawn: ok great
[03:44] <geronimo89> Warbo, the whole xserver is unable to start
[03:44] <Warbo> geronimo89: That's OK. Just live in the terminal for now
[03:44] <Warbo> geronimo89: "sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/Xorg /usr/bin/X"
[03:44] <Warbo> geronimo89: Forget about Xgl to start with
[03:45] <geronimo89> okay
[03:45] <Warbo> geronimo89: Let's get regular X with nvidia, then Xgl
[03:45] <geronimo89> no nvidia logo at startup
[03:45] <Warbo> geronimo89: And you are SURE the line is "nvidia"? Well I will post my xorg.conf to pastebin
[03:46] <CapnDoody> kingspawn: during th make install it asks me for the linux source directory... what would that be?
[03:46] <nickrud> CapnDoody, if you're trying to compile a module for the kernel, you'll need to install gcc-3.4 as well as build-essential, and do   export CC='gcc-3.4' before working with the module
[03:46] <KrisWood> hmmm no luck on the firestarter web site :(
[03:46] <geronimo89> Warbo, I am sure
[03:46] <KrisWood> does anyone here know anything about port forwarding in general?
[03:46] <linkd> KrisWood: yea whats up?
[03:47] <jinho> hi does ubuntu have an antivirus program (or even need one?)
[03:47] <aquarius> How can I build a foo.deb if I have foo.orig.tar.gz, foo.diff.gz, and foo.dsc?
[03:47] <geronimo89> Warbo, got the logo :D
[03:47] <Warbo> geronimo89: Here is mine http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12413
[03:47] <kingspawn> CapnDoody: if its asking for the kernel source, it would probably be at /usr/src/linux if you have installed it
[03:47] <Warbo> geronimo89: OK. Now run glxgears :)
[03:47] <KrisWood> I need a handful of ports (used for directplay) to be made transparent between my internal network and the outside world so that people on my network can play internet games at the same time
[03:47] <shekhar> can someone help me fix permissions?
[03:48] <KrisWood> right now I'm able to forward the ports to one computer on the network but then the rest can't use those ports
[03:48] <kingspawn> shekhar: just ask your question
[03:48] <geronimo89> Warbo, works, as before, 3 slow wheels
[03:48] <zntneo> can i listen to wmv in ubuntu
[03:48] <linkd> KrisWood: have u played around with your router config? ussually they have some options.
[03:48] <Warbo> KrisWood: Is this though a router, or using a Linux box as a router for another Linux box?
[03:48] <jinho> does Ubuntu need an antivirus program/is there one?
[03:48] <_jason> zntneo: yes, mplayer and w32codecs is one way
[03:48] <shekhar> kingspawn:  i have a fat32 partition mounted on /mnt/data and am having problems copying to and from that
[03:48] <Warbo> geronimo89: Hmm. Should be fast. Oh well
[03:48] <KrisWood> my ubuntu box is my router
[03:48] <linkd> KrisWood: do u mean u want multiple computers to have forwarded the same incoming port?
[03:48] <geronimo89> Warbo, not really slow, but not really fast
[03:49] <_jason> ubotu: tell zntneo about mplayer
[03:49] <linkd> KrisWood: i mean, they all want to use port 1234 for example?
[03:49] <Warbo> geronimo89: Now, do the "sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/Xgl /usr/bin/X" thing
[03:49] <_jason> ubotu: tell zntneo about w32codecs
[03:49] <Warbo> geronimo89: Have you added the Compiz lines in your .gnomerc?
[03:49] <KrisWood> linkd, as I understand it forwarding isn't really what I want, but rather I need the ports to be available for incoming and outgoing connections for all computers on the network
[03:49] <ExcaliBer> Is there any hacking channels?
[03:49] <geronimo89> Warbo. no... not really
[03:49] <MTecknology> Hi everybody
[03:49] <ExcaliBer> Hi
[03:49] <geronimo89> Warbo, I always tried the command
[03:49] <KrisWood> ExcaliBer:  sounds like a good way to get banned hehe
[03:49] <jinho> I hate like sounding like a busted player, but do I need an ANTIVIRUS program for ubuntu?
[03:49] <kingspawn> shekhar: yes. well, you need to mount it with options uid and gid
[03:49] <Daskies> Why is firefox telling me to install the JRE when I already have it installed?
[03:49] <ExcaliBer> hehe
[03:50] <Warbo> geronimo89: Well do "gedit ~/.gnomerc" as normal user
[03:50] <ExcaliBer> Nice one kriswood.
[03:50] <KrisWood> :p
[03:50] <_jason> Daskies: how did you install the jre?
[03:50] <kingspawn> shekhar: might also be an idea to chown the whole kaboozle for the user you need it to work for
[03:50] <linkd> KrisWood: if your ubuntu box is going all the routing, cant u just forward all packets? like using ip_forwarding?
[03:50] <Daskies> _jason, I've installed it through netbeans, and the manual download
[03:50] <shekhar> kingspawn:  these are set in /etc/fstab uid=shekhar, gid=shekhar
[03:50] <geronimo89> Warbo, oh oh...
[03:50] <KrisWood> linkd, until today I was using forwarding and it was working great, but then my wife wanted to play a directplay game too
[03:50] <kingspawn> shekhar: or just mount it with umask=0666 or somewhere along those lines
[03:50] <aquarius> jinho: No, you don't.
[03:51] <KrisWood> and both games needed the same ports
[03:51] <Warbo> geronimo89: OK, add this to the .gnomerc file compiz --replace gconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom
[03:51] <Warbo> scale move resize place switcher
[03:51] <geronimo89> Warbo, nvidia logo is gone O.o
[03:51] <shekhar> kingspawn:  do i just do chown shekhar /mnt/data for that volume?
[03:51] <Warbo> (sorry for multiple lines)
[03:51] <blindx> Anyone remember my issue with not having sound? I think it was last night or maybe the night before..
[03:51] <_jason> Daskies: if you use a .deb, then it should make a symlink for you.  I am not familiar with those methods, so they may not have made the symlink.  What does 'ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/' say? (use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ )
[03:51] <jinho> aquarius: is it that safe? I sort of feel like that is borderline hubris lol
[03:51] <Warbo> geronimo89: Run "lsmod | grep nvidia"
[03:51] <linkd> KrisWood: right gotcha, because it uses the same port right? so you get 2 computers competing for the port? only way i can think to overcome that would be to see if you can change what port the program wanted
[03:51] <jinho> aquarius: or are all the ppl who write viruses linux developers too?
[03:51] <kingspawn> shekhar: shekhar:shekhar
[03:52] <m5m> history | grep time
[03:52] <aquarius> jinho: then if you're convinced you need one, I'm not sure why you're asking the question :) Set your mind at rest by installing clamav if you like.
[03:52] <m5m> oops wrong channel
[03:52] <kingspawn> shekhar: and -R
[03:52] <shekhar> kingspawn:  ? can you give me the syntax exactly?
[03:52] <KrisWood> it's an old old game I don't think it's very modifyable
[03:52] <jinho> aquarius: maybe I'm still stuck in the windows mindset...
[03:52] <kingspawn> shekhar: chown -R shekhar:shekhar /whatnot
[03:52] <geronimo89> Warbo, nvidia: 0
[03:52] <Daskies> _jason, http://daskies.pastebin.com/664214
[03:52] <shekhar> kingspawn:  ok
[03:52] <KrisWood> hmmm
[03:52] <linkd> hmm, sorry, i personally cant think of anything, i dunno if someone else has any ideas
[03:53] <geronimo89> Warbo,  i2c_core: 3, agpgart 2
[03:53] <davecb> hello
[03:53] <michael117> How can I hide icons on the desktop such as remote ftp's or remote nfs disks?
[03:53] <davecb> anyone alive
[03:53] <LinuxHelp> how do I access the cdrom during the dapper mini.iso install
[03:53] <davecb> ?
[03:53] <_jason> Daskies: have you closed all instances of firefox and started it again?
[03:53] <Warbo> geronimo89: OK, so the module is loaded. You should basically have 2 lines in your home/username/.gnomerc file before trying to run Xgl
[03:53] <KrisWood> :(
[03:53] <geronimo89> okay
[03:53] <geronimo89> Warbo, but this 0 behind nvidia?
[03:54] <anemia> hello
[03:54] <cached>  i have an idea that requires sending large files over the internet and its preferrably cross platform, but i somewhata despise java
[03:54] <cached> what lang should i use
[03:54] <geronimo89> Warbo, i heard something of adding apggart to a blacklist or something, to make x use the nvidia thing
[03:54] <BBHoss> python
[03:54] <linkd> cached: python? perl? :P
[03:54] <cyberboy> holy gunsmoke
[03:54] <linkd> rudy? php?
[03:54] <linkd> lots of choice
[03:54] <BBHoss> c++
[03:54] <cyberboy> this is cute :)
[03:54] <Nameeater> where is ubuntu's printer config stored on the hdd?
[03:54] <cyberboy> just read through the facts
[03:55] <cyberboy> thanks
[03:55] <Warbo> geronimo89: First is:compiz --replace gconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place switcher, anyway I don't think that is necissary. If it is set to NVidia it won't fall back to nv, it will just refuse to start.
[03:55] <MTecknology> I upgraded to Dapper and only have one porblem, my network. In Breezy I had an eth0 and wlan0. They both worked. Initially I had to set up wlan0 using ndiswrapper and downloading the inf file. Now in Dapper, I have eth0 and eth1. When connecting eth0 it sends a few bytes and keeps recieving a shit load of them. On eth1 it just aLways says disconnected. Does anybody have any clue on this problem?
[03:55] <davecb> where can i download Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake)
[03:55] <Daskies> _jason, yes
[03:55] <davecb> ?
[03:55] <michael117> How can I remove icons from the desktop that only give me the option to unmount them?
[03:55] <cached> linkd, BBHoss, are those similar to C?
[03:55] <Daskies> _jason, I haven't restarted the computer, but I have firefox
[03:55] <Warbo> geromino89: That first line ends at the comma
[03:55] <m5m> michael117: umount them first
[03:55] <jramsey> trying to point sources.list to a site that has the java runtime engine firefox plugin; i cannot save sources.list when i update it; is that the proper way to add a new site for pkg installs??
[03:55] <linkd> cached: php is.
[03:55] <KrisWood> wow dapper's already out? seems like just a couple months ago I upgraded to breezy hehe
[03:55] <geronimo89> Warbo, i know, that's what i looks like now
[03:55] <Daskies> _jason, do I need to restart the system?
[03:56] <michael117> m5m: I have to have htem mounted
[03:56] <blindx> I'm not getting any sound for videos, while using VLC.. what could be the problem?
[03:56] <cached> linkd, BBHoss, I doubt php is the correct choice for sending large files via an application :P
[03:56] <linkd> cached: might wanna be careful with BBHoss's suggetion, a good programmer can make portable code, but it still need recompiling on each system
[03:56] <michael117> I just want to give my desktop a clean look\
[03:56] <Warbo> geronimo89: Next line is: nohup gnome-window-decorator &
[03:56] <_jason> Daskies: ok, well there are two symlinks in there for java.. that could be the reason... what do the following commands say: 'readlink -f /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so' and 'realink -f /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/libjavaplugin.so' ?
[03:56] <_jason> Daskies: no, you should not need to restart
[03:56] <linkd> cached: well i dont know what u want, i dont know ur limits either.
[03:56] <m5m> michael117: at a commandprompt cd Desktop and rm linkname
[03:56] <MTecknology> if nobody can help me, can somebody please tell me where to go for help on my ubuntu system?
[03:56] <cyphase> brandon_, i'm on Gnome, and Epiphany does it too (the Gnome browser)
[03:57] <_jason> Daskies: s/realink/readlink :P
[03:57] <Daskies> /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[03:57] <shekhar> kingspawn:  thanks a lot! :)
[03:57] <Daskies> /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[03:57] <Daskies> /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[03:57] <Daskies> _jason, the first one gives me: /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[03:57] <kingspawn> shekhar: :)
[03:57] <Daskies> Darn paste button
[03:57] <Warbo> geronimo89: Well if your /usr/bin/X points to Xgl and your .gnomerc files are edited then you are good to go (with nvidia driver). If not then you must have broken it whilst trying things, so now you might have to unbreak it by undoing whatever you've done
[03:57] <blindx> I'm not getting any sound for videos, while using VLC.. what could be the problem?
[03:57] <kingspawn> cached: what kind of sending are you talking about? i hardly think the language used will be the bottleneck in an internet transfer..
[03:57] <Daskies> _jason, the second one gives me command not found
[03:58] <Warbo> blindx: XMMS on pause?
[03:58] <Daskies> _jason, so do I need to install the second one?
[03:58] <shekhar> kingspawn:  is there a fix for dapper f6 problem with waking from sleep and hibernate?
[03:58] <_jason> Daskies: yeah, I made a type.  it's readlink not realink
[03:58] <_jason> typo...
[03:58] <blindx> Warbo: nope.
[03:58] <kingspawn> shekhar: no idea, never used dapper
[03:58] <blindx> Warbo: not even open.
[03:58] <cyphase> i'm actually thinking of trying Epiphany instead of firefox for a while when i install dapper beta
[03:58] <Warbo> blindx: Got a Google Video tab open in a browser?
[03:58] <blindx> nope.
[03:58] <blindx> no browsers even opened
[03:58] <Daskies> _jason, Now the second one gives me nothing
[03:58] <Warbo> blindx: Just that Google Video steal the sound.
[03:58] <Daskies> _jason, when I hit enter nothing happens
[03:58] <michael117> m5m: They are not like physical links and don't have a file name to them
[03:58] <jmoncayo> what is the difference between apache 1.3 and 2.0 i mean they  both are stable versions right?
[03:59] <jramsey> _jason, nothing, and nothing respectively so the symlinks arent set ... meaning the plugins arent installed, right?
[03:59] <cached> kingspawn: im talking transfering about 4GB a day to anywhere relatively close
[03:59] <_jason> Daskies: ok 'sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so' and restart your browser
[03:59] <Warbo> jmoncayo: Is 2 more modular?
[03:59] <m5m> michael117: I'm sorry, I understand what you mean, I just realized it and I'm not sure where that preference is
[03:59] <brandon_> cyphase: why not just use epiphany? epihpany and firefox are both frontends for the gecko layout engine, so websites will look the same regardless
[03:59] <_jason> jramsey: nah, the first one worked
[03:59] <blindx> Warbo: that's odd. But I'm not running any, anyways
[03:59] <cyphase> brandon_, see last message :)
[03:59] <kingspawn> cached: well then, the language you choose could be qbasic without it being your performance problem :)
[03:59] <jmoncayo> Warbo, i think so, thats the only difference?
[04:00] <Warbo> blindx: Do you get sound in another player?
[04:00] <mroe_> hey all
[04:00] <cjones> i went from ubuntu to kubuntu useing synaptic can i just uninstall useing the same and go back to ubuntu
[04:00] <kingspawn> cached: should be pretty easy to do, but personally i'd go with python. an excellent language for such tasks
[04:00] <mroe_> I just installed initng and set it up
[04:00] <jramsey> _jason, i think i jumped in on ur conversation; i am having trouble with installing the java runtime eng; thought u msged that time sry
[04:00] <blindx> I haven't tried any other players. For some reason, none of my vids will open in totem. Lemme try mplayer
[04:00] <mroe_> anyone here know much about it?
[04:00] <Daskies> _jason, still nothing
[04:00] <linkd> cached: id choose the same as kingspawn !
[04:00] <_jason> jramsey: ha, yeah you confused me
[04:00] <brandon_> cyphase: i saw it, but what i'm saying is, why not just abandon the idea of finding an extension for firefox if epiphany does what you want?
[04:00] <Warbo> jmoncayo: Well I'm not sure. I installed a bare Apache2 system a while ago (I'm warbo.homelinux.org) but couldn't forward ports properly so I got rid of ot
[04:01] <geronimo89> Warbo, found something in the errorlog "Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nv_drv.so"
[04:01] <jmoncayo> Warbo, ok thanks
[04:01] <_jason> Daskies: you sure all instances of firefox are getting closed?
[04:01] <GURT> is there a way to make gnomebaker overburn?
[04:01] <Warbo> geronimo89: Is that the most recent kind of error? (ie. Not an error from ages ago with nv driver)
[04:01] <blindx> Warbo: turns out I don't have mplayer installed. So I wouldn't know if I get sound in another player.
[04:01] <cached> kingspawn,linkd thanks
[04:01] <Warbo> blindx: Just wondering. Where is it from? Do you know the codec?
[04:02] <Daskies> _jason, yes unless there is an inviasble one running
[04:02] <cyphase> brandon_, i just might
[04:02] <hawk_wolf> Can somebody help me with some boot options?
[04:02] <mroe_> anyone here know much about initng?
[04:02] <blindx> I don't know the codec..
[04:02] <kingspawn> blindx: system->preferences->sound - can you play the stapler ubuntu-sounds?
[04:02] <_jason> jramsey: have you installed the jre? how?
[04:02] <cyphase> i'm just kind of worried about extensions not having an epiphany equivalent
[04:02] <blindx> They had sound on windows, and I had the same issue last night, but fixed it somehow.
[04:02] <geronimo89> Warbo, most recent
[04:02] <blindx> kingspawn, i have all other sounds, just not during video.
[04:02] <cyphase> i can live without a few trivial extensions..
[04:02] <kingspawn> blindx: ah, ok. then its probably a codec problem
[04:02] <Warbo> blindx: Windows VLC? I was here last night and it was XMMS
[04:02] <_jason> Daskies: ok, right now when you ls your plugins directory you only have libjavaplugin_oji.so right? you don't have the other one too?
[04:02] <cjones> can someone give me a little help
[04:02] <david_mx> hi I'm loockin for a irc in spanish someone can helpme?????
[04:02] <jramsey> _jason, no ... i am trying and i found a mirrored site that has deb pkgs but i cant get sources.list updated to go to that site; i chmod the file but still cannot save an edited version
[04:03] <kingspawn> !es
[04:03] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:03] <brandon_> cyphase, i mean the big deal is the layout engine, not the GUI. you can probably find a theme for epiphany that'll make it look like firefox
[04:03] <_jason> jramsey: what site are you using?
[04:03] <Warbo> geronimo89: This is getting on my nerves now. You know what I'm gonna ask?
[04:03] <Daskies> _jason, how would I check to see I have both?
[04:03] <jramsey> _jason, http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/java/
[04:03] <Warbo> geronimo89: Are you SURE it says nvidia? :)
[04:03] <geronimo89> Warbo, about the xorg.conf?
[04:03] <_jason> Daskies: ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/*java*
[04:03] <hawk_wolf> When I installed ubuntu the default frame rate was too fast for probably my video card but I got the frame rate changed when it fully boots but the pw screen still has too fast a frame rate.
[04:03] <cyphase> brandon_, it doesn't even have to look like it. i use the default theme in firefox anyway..
[04:03] <blindx> Warbo: no, linux. Last night XMMS was on pause, and I stopped it and it worked, but now it's not working at all...
[04:03] <_jason> jramsey: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:03] <Daskies> _jason, No such file or direcotry
[04:03] <Warbo> geronimo89: What have you been trying to get this to work?
[04:04] <cached> whats a good ide for python?
[04:04] <_jason> Daskies: hmm
[04:04] <geronimo89> Warbo, this tutorial
[04:04] <Warbo> blindx: I know Linux VLC, but did it work in Windows Media PLayer or Windows VLC?
[04:04] <geronimo89> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto
[04:04] <Daskies> _jason, How do you normally install it?
[04:04] <hawk_wolf> I figure theres gotta be a boot command for changing Frame rate during booting.
[04:04] <blindx> yeah, it worked in both, warbo
[04:04] <_jason> ubotu: tell Daskies about javadebs
[04:04] <_jason> Daskies: with seveas' repo debs
[04:04] <Smerity> my system commonly becomes unusable after sitting there for a while, is there some memory profiling program for all Linux apps on your system, or do you guys have any suggestions?
[04:05] <Warbo> blindx: OK, so not some encrypted WMV then? Or is it?
[04:05] <blindx> it's not even wmv.
[04:05] <david_mx> SPANISH CHAT PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[04:05] <blindx> It's avi
[04:05] <_jason> !caps
[04:05] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[04:05] <david_mx> WHERE CAN I FOUND ONE?
[04:05] <kingspawn> cached: well, i prefer to use emacs, but IDLE is nice for python
[04:05] <_jason> david_mx: /join #ubuntu-es
[04:05] <david_mx> sorry
[04:05] <PuMpErNiCkEl> ubotu: tell david_mx about es
[04:05] <brandon_> david_mx: bend over and i'll show you
[04:05] <_jason> ubotu: tell brandon_ about coc
[04:06] <GURT> someting about those last two lines just dosen't sound right
[04:06] <blindx> lol gurt.
[04:06] <Warbo> geronimo89: That's the HowTo I followed. What was that /usr/X11/X or /etc/X11/X stuff? Where did that come from?
[04:06] <geronimo89> Warbo, how can I thank you?
[04:06] <kingspawn> Smerity: run the memtest86 thats in your boot menu
[04:06] <brandon_> _jason: i was kidding. c'mon
[04:06] <_jason> Daskies: ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/, just want to make sure you don't still have a symlink since it may interfere with the new one that gets created with the deb
[04:06] <cached> kingspawn: gah! for me emacs is just about as difficult to use as vi
[04:06] <hawk_wolf> Does nobody know how to change the frame rate on the pw screen?
[04:06] <Smerity> kingspawn,  thanks mate, I guess I should have checked that first eh? ^_^
[04:06] <geronimo89> Warbo, it finally works (no idea why now, but not before)
[04:06] <kingspawn> cached: both good editors :) but emacs wins, hands down
[04:06] <m5m> does anyone actually keep their system time in UTC??
[04:07] <kingspawn> Smerity: hehe, worth a shot ;)
[04:07] <ExcaliBer> Hi everyone.
[04:07] <Warbo> geronimo89: You have wobbly windows and stuff?
[04:07] <geronimo89> Warbo, some people say I do good graphics, hope I can help you some day
[04:07] <blindx> I'm gonna try rebooting Warbo.. Don't know why that would be an issue, but I need a reboot anyway.
[04:07] <nickrud> m5m, I do
[04:07] <ExcaliBer> Does anyone need some help?
[04:07] <hawk_wolf> yes
[04:07] <hawk_wolf> I go
[04:07] <hawk_wolf> do
[04:07] <jramsey> _jason, how do i rebuild sources.list? it looks like i corrupted it with nano
[04:07] <geronimo89> Warbo, it's wobbling, but it's slow and ugly
[04:07] <Warbo> geronimo89: OK, now that you KNOW it is using NVidia you can get rid of the logo by putting option "NoLogo" "true" in the Device part of xorg.conf
[04:07] <nickrud> ExcaliBer, sure, I could use some extra income
[04:07] <_jason> ubotu: tell jramsey about easysource
[04:07] <ExcaliBer> Ok hawk_wolf
[04:07] <blindx> jramsey, you backed it up first, right? :P
[04:08] <cached> kingspawn: i guess i am one generation too late to be able to use emacs
[04:08] <_jason> jramsey: in the future remember to back up any file you edit :)
[04:08] <jramsey> blindx, that would have made too  much sense
[04:08] <ExcaliBer> Ok.
[04:08] <blindx> hhaha i did the same thing :P
[04:08] <ExcaliBer> What are the problems?
[04:08] <geronimo89> Warbo, hehe, yes :>
[04:08] <hawk_wolf> Thanks, I need to know how to change the frame rate on the password screen when my system boots up.
[04:08] <Daskies> _jason, Can I just install it through synaptic?
[04:08] <Warbo> geronimo89: Don't metion it *cough*PayPal*cough*
[04:08] <ExcaliBer> The frame rate huh?
[04:08] <kingspawn> cached: heh, takes a bit of "easing" into, but once you get it going, its just the best thing since sliced bread
[04:08] <Warbo> :)
[04:08] <m5m> nickrud: for what purpose do you keep it in UTC may I ask?  I'm having a hard time getting mine back to PST but if I understand a good reason for UTC, I can give up on my problem
[04:08] <ExcaliBer> Ok hold on let me think.
[04:08] <_jason> Daskies: yeah, once you add the seveas repository lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:09] <geronimo89> Warbo, I have no money, sorry :(
[04:09] <hawk_wolf> WHen I first installed the frame rate for the whole system was too fast
[04:09] <Warbo> geronimo89: Joke, joke
[04:09] <cached> :)
[04:09] <Daskies> _jason, Can't I add the respository through Synaptic?
[04:09] <Warbo> geronimo89: I can draw pretty well myself anyway
[04:09] <hawk_wolf> but I got it changed and and reset to what I need it to be, but the boot screen when it asks for password is still too fast.
[04:09] <_jason> Daskies: yeah I think you can, just add a custom one
[04:09] <ExcaliBer> Ok here http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/okvm/okvm/README?rev=1.6
[04:10] <Daskies> _jason, What's the url or the respository?
[04:10] <nickrud> m5m, I use UTC because I don't use windows ; setting to UTC handles the switch from/to daylight savings time properly. Otherwise, I know of no advantage.
[04:10] <Daskies> _jason, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ?
[04:10] <Laurijolive> Ai pessoal. eu gostaria de instalar o Adobepagmaker no linux. Comofaoisso?
[04:10] <hawk_wolf> in the system menu there is an option for screen resolution, thats where i got the part that now works changed,
[04:10] <_jason> Daskies: no you need more than that, try to read the wiki one more time.  If it's not clear just let me know
[04:10] <Laurijolive> Alguem pode me ajudar?
[04:10] <ExcaliBer> So you are trying to change the screen resolution?
[04:10] <_jason> Daskies: and don't use that url, use a mirror
[04:10] <hawk_wolf> Not exactly.
[04:10] <geronimo89> Warbo, okay, thank you so much
[04:11] <nickrud> m5m, try sudo tzselect in a terminal to set your timezone
[04:11] <Warbo> geronimo89: Your welcome
[04:11] <kingspawn> cached: if youre new to python, python.org has a lot of tutorials and stuff to read
[04:11] <hawk_wolf> but thats where you go to change the frame rate.
[04:11] <Warbo> Who's next?
[04:11] <mmmiiikkkeee> when i start my computer the program firestarter prompts me for my password how can i make this program start with root privaliges automaticaly?
[04:11] <ExcaliBer> What kind of pc you have?
[04:11] <cached> kingspwan: thanks, i'll check it out
[04:11] <geronimo89> Warbo, I will now make a screenshot I promised my friend (a porn movie, on the egde of the cube)
[04:11] <cyphase> where can you get epiphany extensiosn?
[04:11] <blindx> no luck Warbo
[04:11] <cyphase> extensions*
[04:11] <_jason> mmmiiikkkeee: do you know that you do not need firestarter running for your firewall to be active?
[04:11] <crimsun> cyphase: via Synaptic
[04:11] <Warbo> mmmiiikkkeee: You can change the sudoers file to let you run any program without password
[04:11] <hawk_wolf> an 4540
[04:12] <jramsey> _jason, ok i fixed sources.list; i updated it with apt-get update, then i installed java-packages but i get a msg about it cannot be authenticated ... is that ok?
[04:12] <hawk_wolf> its actually callled the refresh rate.
[04:12] <m5m> nickrud: I'm a bit nervous of losing my ablility to sudo as the last time I reset the time (or attempted to) I couldn't run sudo anymore as it said it had an illegal timestamp...
[04:12] <m5m> nickrud: though I guess after about 8 hours that problem would vanish
[04:12] <Warbo> cyphase: There is an extensions package, and I don't trhink there are any more. Epiphany is even MORE minimal than Firefox
[04:12] <nickrud> m5m, I've heard of that bad timestamp problem, but never had it
[04:12] <_jason> jramsey: the wiki explains what to do if you get that error
[04:12] <mmmiiikkkeee> thanks :) how do i know if i need to run for the firewall to be active???
[04:12] <ExcaliBer> Hmm.
[04:13] <blindx> Can anyone help me figure out why I don't have sound in any video I try to run? :|
[04:13] <Daskies> _jason, once the repository is added what the file for jre
[04:13] <Warbo> mmmiiikkkeee: The firewall is part of the kernel (iptables) so it should always be on. You only need FireStarter to change what it does
[04:13] <_jason> Daskies, jramsey: you want sun-j2re1.5 for the jre
[04:14] <mmmiiikkkeee> ok so once i configure it i am done... oh!!! thanks :)
[04:14] <Warbo> blindx: Have you looked through the Preferences?
[04:14] <ExcaliBer> Ok hawk
[04:14] <hellz_hunter> how do i make sure that when i add a deb URL in sources.list file, that it gets from amd64 and not i386?
[04:14] <ExcaliBer> go here
[04:14] <blindx> in the player, warbo?
[04:14] <ExcaliBer> http://www.linuxcompatible.org/Screen_refresh_rate_t33565.html
[04:14] <Laurijolive> Hey Buddy, I would like install ADOBE PAGEMAKER into Linux. How can i do that? Someone can help me?
[04:14] <ExcaliBer> Is that what you need?
[04:14] <ExcaliBer> The screen refresh rate?
[04:14] <Warbo> hellz_hunter: if your system is amd64 it will only get amd64
[04:14] <Warbo> blindx: Yes
[04:14] <hawk_wolf> yeah the screen refresh rate.
[04:14] <Daskies> _jason, It's already installed
[04:14] <ExcaliBer> Ok http://www.linuxcompatible.org/Screen_refresh_rate_t33565.html
[04:14] <blindx> lemme go ahead and do that...
[04:14] <ExcaliBer> go there
[04:15] <Warbo> blindx: Can it talk to ESD and things, or does it just use /dev/dsp?
[04:15] <hawk_wolf> checking it out now.
[04:15] <hawk_wolf> btw, how'd you find it?
[04:15] <m5m> thanks nickrud ; trying it now
[04:15] <hellz_hunter> Warbo, how do i make sure? what file/var makes sure that it says amd64
[04:16] <blindx> Warbo: not a clue.
[04:16] <Daskies> _jason, any more ideas?
[04:16] <Concord_Dawn> Can someone help me with doing a dist-upgrade from Hoary to Breezy?
[04:16] <Warbo> hellz_hunter: I'm pretty sure it built into the package manager system. You can get Debian mirrors for everything from m68k to PowerPC, so any other behaviour would be catastrophic
[04:16] <blindx> Warbo: it works for some now, and some others it doesn't
[04:16] <hellz_hunter> Warbo, ok thx
[04:17] <_jason> Daskies: yeah, 'dpkg -L dpkg -L sun-j2re1.5 | grep libjavaplugin && ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/' on pastebin please
[04:17] <_jason> ugh
[04:17] <Warbo> blindx: Does it say "audio device" or something similar? I haven't used VLC for a while (I like the skins though)
[04:17] <_jason> Daskies: yeah, 'dpkg -L sun-j2re1.5 | grep libjavaplugin && ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/' on pastebin please
[04:17] <_jason> Daskies: the first one had a mistake
[04:17] <blindx> Warbo: it's working now... if I disable the sound, and then re-enable it.
[04:18] <Daskies> _jason: Number 1: http://daskies.pastebin.com/664251
[04:18] <ExcaliBer> hawk i found it by google.com/linux
[04:18] <ExcaliBer> = D
[04:18] <ExcaliBer> its the best
[04:18] <blindx> Here's my next question... anything for linux that can run .3gp files?
[04:18] <skpl> can someone tell me why my memory usage is running at 70%
[04:18] <skpl> ?
[04:18] <Daskies> _jason, Number 2: http://daskies.pastebin.com/664253
[04:18] <Warbo> blindx: It probably needs the sound device unused when it starts up then. If it happens again stop any sound programs when starting vlc (or svlc)
[04:18] <_jason> Daskies: you can include the && in your command it will work :) (for next time)
[04:19] <skpl> for some reason i only have 487 mb's of available memory
[04:19] <blindx> Warbo: nothing's using the sound device. And it works fine if i go into audio, and disable it, and then reenable (in VLC)
[04:19] <_jason> Daskies: when I gave you that rm command before did you run it on both files?
[04:19] <Warbo> skpl: Memory is different from storage
[04:19] <skpl> while my swap is at 1 gig, is that normal?
[04:19] <Warbo> blindx: OK
[04:19] <Concord_Dawn> skpl, ps -a
[04:19] <skpl> Warbo, i know
[04:19] <Concord_Dawn> paste it in pastebin.
[04:19] <Daskies> _jason, I belive so, but if you want to give me the command again I can do it again
[04:19] <blindx> Anything for linux that can run .3gp files?
[04:20] <Agamotto> skpl:  Sounds ok to me... I rarely dip into my swap with my system
[04:20] <Warbo> skpl: Swap should be as low as possible as long as there is RAM available
[04:20] <_jason> Daskies: yeah, you were only supposed to do it for one
[04:20] <skpl> Concord_Dawn, 26170 pts/0    00:00:01 gnome-system-mo
[04:20] <skpl> 26182 pts/0    00:00:00 ps
[04:20] <Daskies> _jason, What's the fix?
[04:20] <Warbo> blindx: Can't help you there :)
[04:20] <_jason> Daskies: it's ok, 'ls -l /etc/alternatives/*java*' on pastebin please
[04:20] <blindx> haha. I could probably run quicktime using wine, right?
[04:20] <ExcaliBer> Hawk did you understand it?
[04:20] <Concord_Dawn> blindx, there's quicktime replacements for Linux.
[04:20] <kingspawn> blindx: mplayer probably plays 3gp
[04:20] <skpl> is it normal for memory usage to be at 70%+
[04:20] <skpl> ?
[04:21] <kingspawn> blindx: but you should never use .mov or .3gp or .wmv or anything like them.
[04:21] <Agamotto> skpl:  More details about your system please
[04:21] <ExcaliBer> Do ya think kubuntu is better than ubuntu?
[04:21] <kingspawn> skpl: the kernel usually caches a lot of memory just to have it handy
[04:21] <Warbo> blindx: I think so (was mentioned earlier). That is for the codecs though, the QuickTime program just gives me blue when I ran it ages ago (though that was about RH9 days)
[04:21] <jramsey> _jason, where is sun-j2re1.5 ?? i only found a "for sale" list at sun and that cant be right
[04:21] <ExcaliBer> vote 1 if you think kubuntu is better
[04:21] <skpl> Agamotto, i have 512k memory installed
[04:21] <ExcaliBer> vote 2 if you think not
[04:21] <Daskies> _jason: http://daskies.pastebin.com/664260
[04:21] <kingspawn> skpl: system sluggish?
[04:21] <welshbyte> 3
[04:21] <_jason> jramsey: after you enable seveas' repo, it should be available in synaptic and/or apt-get
[04:21] <intelikey> 5
[04:21] <Agamotto> skpl:  What window manager, what softs running, etc...
[04:22] <ExcaliBer> lol
[04:22] <skpl> kingspawn, my music player is skipping occasionally, and my mouse is acting funny
[04:22] <jramsey> apt-get didnt find it after i enabled seveas
[04:22] <Warbo> skpl: Linux writes your files and things to RAM before putting them on your drive. (This stops fragmentation, makes floppies really fast, etc.) so that could be easting it up. It automatically shrinks to allow programs to access the RAM though
[04:22] <skpl> Agamotto, gnome, with just xchat, gaim, firefox and banshee
[04:22] <kingspawn> skpl: well, then follog Agamottos advice and cough up more details. put the output of ps -Af on pastebin
[04:22] <_jason> Daskies: sudo ln -s /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[04:22] <intelikey> apt-cache finds  apt-get grabs   :)
[04:22] <jramsey> _jason, hold on ... this is whacky ... i need to try this again
[04:22] <kingspawn> skpl: might be firefox, i think theres some kind of memory leak in the default one coming with breezy
[04:23] <Agamotto> skpl:  Sounds pretty normal so far... Gnome and X take up nearly 96megs on their own
[04:23] <Daskies> _jason, Did that, and restart Firefox, and still nothing
[04:23] <Daskies> *restarted
[04:23] <initard> Anybody wanna take a shot at debugging my sound card problems?
[04:24] <_jason> Daskies: you are using firefox 1.07?
[04:24] <DeMoNSeED> blindx, for what it's worth, i tried it a lil while back with Crossover, i got blue as well
[04:24] <skpl> kingspawn, i installed 1.5.0.1 on my own
[04:24] <skpl> Agamotto, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12415
[04:24] <kingspawn> skpl: ah, k
[04:24] <Daskies> _jason, I updated to the newest verion ...
[04:24] <Warbo> Anyone know some nice animation software (by nice I mean NOT GAP) ala Deluxe Paint or Flash or something else, before I turn my Amiga on?
[04:24] <_jason> Daskies: hehe ok that explains it :)  you installed to /opt?
[04:24] <intelikey> Agamotto lol   tty1 [root#~]  sis -m
[04:24] <Daskies> _jason, Yes
[04:24] <intelikey>  Mem usage: 21.2/92.4 MB (23%)
[04:24] <DeMoNSeED> hey Warbo , how goes it?
[04:24] <task> hi all, i need support on monitor editing xorg.conf!
[04:24] <Daskies> _jason, Does 1.5 kill things?
[04:24] <intelikey> Agamotto that's with x running.
[04:24] <s|k> anybody know how to configure the gnome clibboard so it doesn't pick up formatting?
[04:24] <_jason> Daskies: sudo ln -s /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[04:25] <s|k> clipboard*
[04:25] <_jason> Daskies: no, it just uses a different directory
[04:25] <ExcaliBer> Hawk?
[04:25] <Warbo> DeMoNSeED: OK. My Wifi is bust, my routers won't talk and I can't find a pencil. But that's better than average!
[04:25] <DeMoNSeED> rotf
[04:25] <DeMoNSeED> ok, just another normal day
[04:25] <Daskies> _jason, >_< Thanks
[04:25] <task> hi all, i need support on monitor editing xorg.conf!
[04:25] <Warbo> task: Do you know your details? Do you know about "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[04:26] <_jason> Daskies: np
[04:26] <hawk_wolf> sorry, I was just attempting what the message advised
[04:26] <skpl> Agamotto, what do you think?
[04:26] <Agamotto> skpl:  I didn't see anything running amok in there, but I am no expert by any means
[04:26] <task> Warbo, my problem is with Hz things, cant change 60
[04:26] <ExcaliBer> Oh
[04:26] <intelikey> task do you know about  http://monitorworld.com ?
[04:26] <initard> Anybody wanna help with my sound?  no sound here
[04:26] <ExcaliBer> Did it solve your problem?
[04:26] <skpl> Agamotto, i seem to have an unuasual amount of programs using an unusual amount of memory
[04:26] <DeMoNSeED> ah his refresh rates
[04:27] <task> intelikey, yes we talk the other day, no mon there but found data, and when editing the xorg file, x cant start
[04:27] <ExcaliBer> hawk_wolf, did it solve your problem?
[04:27] <hawk_wolf> nope, there refresh value isn't there
[04:27] <hawk_wolf> like it reads on the post.
[04:27] <Agamotto> skpl:  Yah, but I am not sure which ones are 'illegal' and which ones are daemons that you may have running at startup that you don't need
[04:27] <tidalwav1> Hi, room
[04:27] <hawk_wolf> there is no @value in the file.
[04:27] <tidalwav1> I just destroyed a friend's ubuntu Dapper installation by installing libcamel1-1.2-6
[04:27] <initard> No sound here, anyone gotta fix for a non working soundcard??
[04:27] <tidalwav1> it removed all of the gnome packages
[04:27] <task> intelikey, found data: FH: 30 ~ 85KHZ, FV: 50 ~ 160HZ
[04:28] <tidalwav1> well some of them
[04:28] <intelikey> task what are your monitors vsync & href ?
[04:28] <smellican> hey guys, I need the termcap dev library... can't find it in synaptic. help!
[04:28] <tidalwav1> is there a way to reinstall gnome?
[04:28] <zivalica> Join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:28] <intelikey> ok
[04:28] <tidalwav1> force a reinstall of gnome?
[04:28] <Warbo> tidalwav1: Now you know to read the messages and expand the trees
[04:28] <task> intelikey, FH: 30 ~ 85KHZ, FV: 50 ~ 160HZ
[04:28] <s|k> anybody know how to configure the gnome clipboard so it doesn't pick up formatting?
[04:28] <jramsey> _jason, it works ... jre all set ... tyvm for ur help
[04:28] <zivalica> hello
[04:28] <DeMoNSeED> so task , edit your x
[04:28] <_jason> jramsey: np
[04:28] <tidalwav1> warbo...is there any hope, or am I just f0rked?
[04:28] <skpl> Agamotto, i guess i will re-install then
[04:28] <IdleOne> evening all! just tried installing ubuntu 5.10 32 bit on my amd64 ( dual boot) install went fine but when it did the first boot after ejecting the install cd it got stuck at Starting hotplug system, then tried a live cd and X server wouldnt start. any ideas on why?
[04:29] <zivalica> has anyone got TUX_a quest for herring to work?
[04:29] <s|k> anyone?
[04:29] <Agamotto> skpl:  Nah, don't do anything that drastic, just wait around for someone who knows the stuff inside-out
[04:29] <zivalica> has anyone got TUX_a quest for herring to work?
[04:29] <tidalwav1> how do I force a reinstall of gnome...is it just gnome-desktop?
[04:29] <s|k> anyone?
[04:29] <task> i also have nvidia drivers, when editing xorg.conf with that data, x does NOT start
[04:29] <tidalwav1> that package?
[04:29] <ExcaliBer> Oh.
[04:29] <skpl> does anyone here know why my memory usage is at 70%
[04:29] <skpl> ?
[04:29] <DeMoNSeED> don't know tux a quest for hewrring
[04:29] <ExcaliBer> Well do you want for me to look for more?
[04:29] <DeMoNSeED> *herring
[04:29] <Warbo> tidalwav1: There is plenty of hope. As long as you have a kernal and apt you can recover pretty much anything (Remeber, a terminal only system can be using GNOME in minutes)
[04:29] <blindx> getting the message "        GCC 2.96 IS NOT AND WILL NOT BE SUPPORTED BY US !
[04:29] <blindx> " when trying to install mplayer... :(
[04:30] <DeMoNSeED> task, try pm me
[04:30] <tidalwav1> I have both, warbo.
[04:30] <initard> had sound card working once here, removed hotplugs cuz it was hanging up on boot, then tried to get sound card working... gave up on that, now set hotplugs to start up on boot again and i have system 'beep' but no regular media sound whats to do?
[04:30] <intelikey> task did you input        HorizSync 30     &      VertRefresh 50   ?
[04:30] <nickrud> Warbo, I do like your attitude :)
[04:30] <ExcaliBer> hawk_wolf do you want me to look for more information?
[04:30] <tidalwav1> anyone...reinstalling GNOME?
[04:30] <hawk_wolf> You could, I'll look to.
[04:30] <hawk_wolf> too.
[04:30] <task> DeMoNSeED, cant pm, nick not registered
[04:30] <DeMoNSeED> ah,
[04:30] <hawk_wolf> thanks for  helping, sorry for my slow responses.
[04:30] <DeMoNSeED> you should
[04:30] <Warbo> blindx: GCC-4.0 is the latest in the repos, but I always make sure the /usr/bin/gcc link points to gcc-3.4 (which built the kernel, and stops modules giving errors)
[04:30] <nickrud> tidalwav1, why do you think you need to reinstall gnome?
[04:30] <tidalwav1> :'(
[04:31] <_jason> blindx: how are you installing it?
[04:31] <initard> isnt there a program for installing drivers
[04:31] <initard> ?
[04:31] <task> intelikey, how? when editing xorg i insert the full range
[04:31] <tidalwav1> nickrud, it's hosed.
[04:31] <blindx> i did ./configure
[04:31] <_jason> blindx: mplayer is in the repos
[04:31] <Agamotto> initard:  modprobe?
[04:31] <duncanm> hola
[04:31] <_jason> ubotu: tell blindx about mplayer
[04:31] <skpl> can someone tell me why my memory usage is at 70%
[04:31] <nickrud> tidalwav1, hosed. I do love technical talk :)
[04:31] <s|k> anybody know how to configure the gnome clipboard so it doesn't pick up formatting?
[04:31] <_jason> skpl: 'top' may be able to
[04:31] <duncanm> i tried to upgrade from breezy -> dapper, but the upgrade got stuck trying to start pcmcia on my desktop
[04:31] <Warbo> skpl: Because your computer is on.
[04:31] <intelikey> full range task ?     pastebin your xorg.conf  please
[04:31] <intelikey> !paste
[04:31] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[04:31] <skpl> Warbo, gee thank you for that keen insight
[04:31] <duncanm> so now i've booted my machine using a rescue disk
[04:31] <HesNikke> i'm having a WTF moment trying to install ubuntu on my 'puter
[04:32] <task> !paste
[04:32] <skpl> Warbo, is it normal?
[04:32] <HesNikke> it installed GRUB
[04:32] <skpl> it seems kinda high
[04:32] <HesNikke> GRUB came up
[04:32] <initard> great, Agamotto, how do you use modprobe?
[04:32] <tidalwav1> nickrud, when I boot, it shows the GDM login screen along with an error message that the session lasted less than ten seconds, and when I try to log in, the screen goes blank and then back to the GDM login screen.
[04:32] <skpl> and can someone tell me what this means after running chkrootkit? eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient3[3541] )
[04:32] <Warbo> skpl: Well thank you for asking the same question people've already answered
[04:32] <task> intelikey, how do i use that command?
[04:32] <HesNikke> i saw i had a choise of windows, so i tried that to make sure it was still not fubar
[04:32] <skpl> Warbo, i dont want any trouble...
[04:32] <HesNikke> and now grub isn't coming up
[04:32] <HesNikke> it's going strait into booting windows
[04:32] <ExcaliBer> Ok.
[04:32] <s|k> this is retarded
[04:32] <Warbo> skpl: Sorry, I can't do sarcasm in text.
[04:32] <Agamotto> initard:  modprobe 'soundcard'   replacing that with your chipset for soundcard, if memory serves
[04:32] <s|k> thanks
[04:32] <HesNikke> don't make me dig up a gentoo CD to make grub work!
[04:33] <HesNikke> i'm tryin to try out ubuntu
[04:33] <HesNikke> tips?
[04:33] <tidalwav1> should I remove and install ubuntu-desktop?
[04:33] <tidalwav1> or something
[04:33] <tidalwav1> uggghhh
[04:33] <_jason> ubotu: tell HesNikke about grub
[04:33] <HesNikke> keep in mind i only want to use the ubuntu cd
[04:33] <Agamotto> HesNikke:  Did you install Win after Ubuntu?
[04:33] <blindx> Package mplayer-386 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:33] <task> intelikey, http://pastebin.com/664270
[04:33] <blindx> is only available from another source
[04:33] <HesNikke> nope
[04:33] <tidalwav1> I'll try that and come back here after it doesn't work :(
[04:33] <skpl> and can someone tell me what this means after running chkrootkit? eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient3[3541] )
[04:33] <Warbo> HesNikke: You have the CD? Does it boot? Where does it stop?
[04:33] <HesNikke> win was already installed
[04:33] <initard> Agamotto, where do i find the chipset?
[04:33] <intelikey> task k
[04:33] <Warbo> blindx: marillat reposutory
[04:33] <blindx> say wha?
[04:34] <_jason> blindx: you need multiverse
[04:34] <_jason> ubotu: tell blindx about multiverse
[04:34] <blindx> i have multiverse
[04:34] <IdleOne> evening all! just tried installing ubuntu 5.10 32 bit on my amd64 ( dual boot) install went fine but when it did the first boot after ejecting the install cd it got stuck at Starting hotplug system, then tried a live cd and X server wouldnt start. any ideas on why?
[04:34] <blindx> i have multiverse
[04:34] <Agamotto> HesNikke:  If you only wish to use the Live CD, then it will never show up in the boot/grub menu unless you have your bios set to boot from cd, in which case Grub isn't needed
[04:34] <Warbo> blindx: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main
[04:34] <_jason> blindx: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please?
[04:34] <Khaaaaan> Anybody know how I can edit Meta Data for mp3z?
[04:34] <_jason> Warbo: that can really mess up someones system
[04:34] <ExcaliBer> Is kubuntu good?
[04:34] <HesNikke> yeah, i have an install CD
[04:34] <Warbo> jason: Mine is fine
[04:34] <Apostle^> Warbo: don't hand out debian mirrors like they are candy.
[04:34] <initard> i just want my damn soundcard working, it's worked before, what is the easiest damn way to install a damn soundcard someone tell me please, i'll say thank you.
[04:34] <nickrud> tidalwav1, which is it,  it shows the GDM login screen along with an error message that the session lasted less than ten seconds, which?
[04:34] <hawk_wolf> ExcaliBer, I think i've got it
[04:34] <DeMoNSeED> task try      nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf    in terminal
[04:34] <HesNikke> grub did come up.... once
[04:35] <task> intelikey, that's the actual xorg file, that works ok, when inserting the ""FH: 30 ~ 85KHZ, FV: 50 ~ 160HZ"" ranges is when the problem start and i have to return to previos file
[04:35] <ExcaliBer> Ok.
[04:35] <Warbo> Apostle: Look, does he want mplayer or not? If it works then use it.
[04:35] <blindx> _jason, http://pastebin.com/664272
[04:35] <task> DeMoNSeED, already opened on gedit
[04:35] <Apostle^> Warbo: incorrect, that is a terrible way to go about it
[04:35] <DeMoNSeED> k sorry
[04:35] <Khaaaaan> I know you can do it in banshee but it doesnt stick
[04:35] <ExcaliBer> hawk_wolf, i'll be cheering you on = )
[04:35] <_jason> Warbo: mplayer is in ubuntu's repos though
[04:35] <hawk_wolf> http://mgalug.org/book/print/129
[04:35] <Agamotto> HesNikke:  the cd you have is to install Ubuntu to the hd, not to run as a live system
[04:35] <initard> i just want my damn soundcard working, it's worked before, what is the easiest damn way to install a damn soundcard someone tell me please, i'll say thank you.
[04:35] <skpl> can someone tell me what this means after running chkrootkit? eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient3 (deleted)[3541] )
[04:35] <hawk_wolf> I'll let you know as I go.
[04:35] <Warbo> Apostle: Oh well. I don't use mplayer anyway
[04:35] <ExcaliBer> Ok.
[04:35] <zivalica> I have a question about snes9x on amd64
[04:36] <Apostle^> Warbo: don't give people bad advice that can damage their system stability.
[04:36] <intelikey> ok task you see the line          HorizSync       28-64         have you tried  30  there   and   50  on the next line           VertRefresh     43-60      ?
[04:36] <Warbo> initard: There are loads of different sound "servers" are you sure it isn't one of those screwqing up?
[04:36] <Khaaaaan> Anyone know how to edit meta data for mp3s???
[04:36] <_jason> blindx: you only have breezy-backports mulitiverse, you need breezy multiverse.  Want to edit the file yourself or use synaptic to fix it?
[04:36] <zivalica> why does snes9x seem to only work on i386?
[04:36] <zivalica> I have a question about snes9x on amd64
[04:36] <zivalica> why does snes9x seem to only work on i386?
[04:36] <blindx> I'll edit it.
[04:36] <ExcaliBer> Is kubuntu any good?
[04:36] <Warbo> Khaaaan: There are some special apps to do it, but I do it within XMMS and Amarok
[04:36] <Apostle^> zivalica: they probably donot have an x64 version
[04:37] <initard> Warbo, i have no idea, it worked before, then i undid hotplugs cuz it hangs on boot sumtimes and that took sound away
[04:37] <SirKillalot> how do I download all files from http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/xchat/xchat2/plugins/dbus/ with CVS?
[04:37] <Warbo> ExcaliBer: It is Ubuntu. Do you like KDE? Just install KDE in Ubuntu
[04:37] <task> intelikey, so, change "28-64" to 30 and "43-60" to 50????
[04:37] <zivalica> yes the do ( i checked the repos)
[04:37] <Agamotto> ExcaliBer:  Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE as main window manager... essentially the same
[04:37] <ExcaliBer> How?
[04:37] <intelikey> ExcaliBer no.   but neither is ubuntu.
[04:37] <zivalica> i instaled it
[04:37] <hawk_wolf> Nope the file it tells be to open isn't on this system.
[04:37] <intelikey> task try it.
[04:37] <ExcaliBer> How do i install it?
[04:37] <zivalica> it simply does not work
[04:37] <task> intelikey, i want more htz not less :S
[04:37] <Apostle^> ExcaliBer: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:37] <ExcaliBer> sudo apt-get kde?
[04:37] <nickrud> Warbo, there are good mplayer binaries from ubuntu, marillat in this context is good primarily for w32codecs and maybe realplayer, if he comes up with 10.0.7 binaries soon
[04:37] <_jason> blindx: 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' and then add `` multiverse'' to the end of lines 20,21,36,37 and then run 'sudo apt-get update'
[04:37] <DeMoNSeED> enter your proper rates there task
[04:37] <ExcaliBer> is it good?
[04:37] <ExcaliBer> what if i want the normal one back?
[04:37] <Warbo> initard: You need hotplug/udev things at boot. Try "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" and see if you get white noise (use ctrl-c to stop it)
[04:37] <SirKillalot> how do I download all files from http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/xchat/xchat2/plugins/dbus/ with CVS?
[04:38] <blindx> `` multiverse '' ?
[04:38] <Apostle^> ExcaliBer: you can go back at any time, and if it's good is up to you
[04:38] <_jason> blindx: without the quotes
[04:38] <ExcaliBer> Like if i go back whats the command?
[04:38] <Apostle^> ExcaliBer: hit the sessions button from the login screen to change between kde/gnome once kde is installed.
[04:38] <Agamotto> ExcaliBer:  What criteria are you attempting to judge by?  It is Ubuntu with KDE in addtion to GNOME
[04:38] <intelikey> task   ok.
[04:38] <Apostle^> ExcaliBer: the command is at the login screen
[04:38] <_jason> blindx: for example line 20 should be:  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[04:38] <task> DeMoNSeED, i don't really know my rates! @ windows i'm at 75 hz @ 1280x1024!
[04:38] <ExcaliBer> Oh.
[04:38] <ExcaliBer> So you get to pick which login?
[04:38] <ExcaliBer> likekde/gnome?
[04:38] <Agamotto> task:  Where is the manual for your monitor?
[04:39] <IdleOne> ExcaliBer yes
[04:39] <Apostle^> ExcaliBer: you hit sessions on the login screen and it has a list.
[04:39] <DeMoNSeED> what's your monitor
[04:39] <zivalica> why does snes9x seem to only work on i386?
[04:39] <Agamotto> ExcaliBer:  Yes
[04:39] <zivalica> i instaled it
[04:39] <initard> Warbo, nada, no sound at all
[04:39] <zivalica> it simply does not work
[04:39] <ExcaliBer> OH COOL THANK YOU!!
[04:39] <ExcaliBer> lol
[04:39] <zivalica> when i run a rom it just freezes
[04:39] <task> Agamotto, monitor is 795mb
[04:39] <zivalica> run
[04:39] <jmoncayo> how can i print text to another terminal?
[04:39] <intelikey> monitors have manuals ????
[04:39] <Warbo> initard: Do you know what driver/module it uses?
[04:39] <Agamotto> intelikey:  The good ones do
[04:39] <initard> i'm guessing nm256
[04:39] <initard> warbo
[04:39] <DeMoNSeED> we could find him his rates easily enough
[04:39] <Warbo> initard: OK, can you "sudo modprobe nm256"?
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[04:40] <task> Agamotto, http://www.samsung.com/my/products/monitor/syncmastercdt/795mb.asp
[04:40] <nickrud> intelikey, the ones worth buying
[04:40] <Apostle^> anyone here using blue tooth headset with ubuntu?
[04:40] <zivalica> why does snes9x seem to only work on i386?  it is available (and installable)n but not finctional for amd64
[04:40] <DeMoNSeED> he could try something like 30-70   50 -150
[04:40] <zivalica> why does snes9x seem to only work on i386?  it is available (and installable) but not finctional for amd64
[04:40] <ExcaliBer> can i change the screen resolution though on the kde?
[04:40] <blindx> not yet, apostle^, but now that you've given me the idea...
[04:40] <initard> Warbo, FATAL: Module nm256 not found.
[04:40] <Warbo> Apostle: KDE's bluetooth ability is far better than GNOME's
[04:40] <IdleOne> just tried installing ubuntu 5.10 32 bit on my amd64 ( dual boot) install went fine but when it did the first boot after ejecting the install cd it got stuck at Starting hotplug system, then tried a live cd and X server wouldnt start. any ideas on why?
[04:40] <ExcaliBer> i have a 800x600 lcd screen
[04:40] <task> DeMoNSeED, http://www.samsung.com/my/products/monitor/syncmastercdt/795mb.asp that are my rates, but when i inster them, x does not start
[04:40] <nickrud> zivalica, repeating doesn't get faster answers
[04:40] <zivalica> sorry
[04:41] <Apostle^> blindx: i'm getting one that supposedly works with ubuntu, should be here soon :-P
[04:41] <DeMoNSeED> k lookin
[04:41] <initard> Warbo, all i know is it's neomagic 256 i'm running a laptop here
[04:41] <Warbo> initard: OK, you sure that IS a module? Is it anywhere in /lib/modules/*/kernel/drivers?
[04:41] <ExcaliBer> Apostle^,Can i change the screen resolution on kde kubuntu?
[04:41] <Apostle^> ExcaliBer: yes
[04:41] <task> DeMoNSeED, i think the error is somthing like "can't find screen"
[04:41] <ExcaliBer> Cool thank you
[04:41] <vars> how do i change my name in irc?
[04:41] <DeMoNSeED> hmm
[04:41] <initard> Warbo, ok, looking for that in a star directory?
[04:41] <ExcaliBer> And what do i do after i finish installing it?
[04:42] <initard> */what?
[04:42] <Agamotto> vars:  /nick newname
[04:42] <intelikey> /nick newname
[04:42] <DeMoNSeED> where's your paste at?
[04:42] <Apostle^> ExcaliBer: for kde questions join #kubuntu
[04:42] <Warbo> initard: The star is your kernel. If you have only 1 it should point to it. If you have lods than you should see modules for all of them
[04:42] <ExcaliBer> oh ok
[04:42] <DeMoNSeED> save me from lookin back
[04:42] <task> http://pastebin.com/664270 ??
[04:42] <DeMoNSeED> ty
[04:42] <DeMoNSeED> brb
[04:42] <Agamotto> You lot are a bit hard to keep up with on a brailleboard
[04:43] <Apostle^> Agamotto: you are blind ?
[04:43] <nickrud> This is fast here at times
[04:43] <Warbo> initard: A (bad) way of looking for a file is "ls /lib/modules/*/kernel/drivers/nm256.ko" then ".../drivers/*/nm256.ko" and so on
[04:43] <Agamotto> Apostle:  When I have my contacts out, I sit at ~ 20/500
[04:43] <intelikey> brailleboard ?
[04:43] <Apostle^> Agamotto: i see. that's not good :-(
[04:43] <intelikey> man i'm on multiplayer notepad
[04:43] <Agamotto> I have IRC running through the brailleboard, and the web browser is on the monitor at 640x480
[04:43] <Apostle^> anyone here using blue tooth headset with ubuntu?
[04:44] <sophie^> #rm -rf /
[04:44] <Warbo> sopjie: Great
[04:44] <Agamotto> Not too bad, but the text is scrolling a bit fast for me to 'read' with my fingertips
[04:44] <tritium> sophie^: don't do that, please
[04:44] <Warbo> Nobody folow that advice
[04:44] <Apostle^> Agamotto: this might be the busiest channel on irc :-P
[04:44] <Agamotto> One of them!
[04:44] <tritium> sophie^: you'll be quieted for only 10 minutes
[04:44] <mabus> Owned.
[04:44] <Apostle^> what did he do?
[04:45] <mabus> sophie^: people here can't take a joke. :-P
[04:46] <Warbo> mabus: People here can be curious about commands
[04:46] <nickrud> tritium, I swear, I will find a proper acknowledgement, no kidding. Thanks :)
[04:46] <task> DeMoNSeED, hello?
[04:46] <Cerveza> !wifi
[04:46] <ubotu> wifi is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[04:46] <PwcrLinux> Hello all :)
[04:46] <intelikey> hmmm in ubuntu   rm -fr /  is harmless anyway  for the "default" install.   it would error out before doing anything.....
[04:46] <tritium> nickrud: for what?
[04:46] <mabus> Warbo: If somebody knows what the # prefix means, they know not to rm rf /
[04:46] <tidalwav1> hi, again, room---I've determined that ubuntu-desktop is no longer installed on my Dapper system, and when I try to install it, I get a huge list of unmet dependencies....what's going on?
[04:46] <intelikey> mabus no.
[04:47] <intelikey> mabus many that come in here would not know what   rm  does.
[04:47] <DeMoNSeED> task as said before all you should really need to do is change the 28 -64 to 30-85 and the 43-60 to 50-160 save...overwrite and restart x....btw comment out GLcore and DRI
[04:47] <mabus> intelikey: If somebody even knows HOW to logon as root, they aren't going to run that.
[04:47] <nickrud> tritium, integrity? consistency? Courage in the face of ridicule? Humor?
[04:47] <mabus> intelikey: Of course, but they'd just type rm -rf / and it wouldn't work.
[04:47] <Apostle^> mabus: always best not to print cmds such as that
[04:47] <tritium> nickrud: heh... :)
[04:47] <tidalwav1> anyone? this is a friend's computer and he's going to kill me.
[04:47] <Agamotto> tidalwav1:  I would presume that you need to sudo apt-get install gnome
[04:48] <Warbo> mabus: Is that why root has #? to make any copy/pasted command become commented :)
[04:48] <tidalwav1> aga: that doesn't work either
[04:48] <Agamotto> ouch
[04:48] <task> DeMoNSeED, i do that like 3 times
[04:48] <tidalwav1> can anyone shed any light on this stuff? :(
[04:48] <jadaz87> tidalwav1 it is: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:48] <intelikey> Warbo it won't comment it.
[04:48] <iceman> ok, now how to rebuild a linux distro ?
[04:48] <initard> Warbo, i have no nm256, i even did $ whereis nm256 and got nothing
[04:48] <Warbo> tidalwav1: Have you tried just installing the nautilus, gnome-panel and things individually? You often don;t need a lot of the stuff
[04:48] <tidalwav1> jadaz: that package won't install.
[04:48] <tidalwav1> yes, I have tried that.
[04:48] <task> DeMoNSeED, but always had to go back to the backup
[04:48] <tidalwav1> everything complains about dependencies.
[04:49] <Warbo> intellikey: Well you run "# echo "This Won't Appear" "
[04:49] <mabus> Warbo: Can't say I know why, but I don't think it works like that. :P
[04:49] <tidalwav1> I think I basically have to reinstall ubuntu now :(
[04:49] <tidalwav1> thanks anyway, guys
[04:49] <welshbyte> tidalwav1: apt-get -f install might fix things
[04:49] <Agamotto> tidalwav1:  It might be faster.  Is /home on another partition?
[04:50] <HesNikke> i think i know what happened
[04:50] <tidalwav1> welsh: tried that, too.
[04:50] <Warbo> tidalwav1: disable the Internet repositories and any dependencies HAVE to be on the CD
[04:50] <HesNikke> it looks like it installed grub on the GTP dsik of hd0
[04:50] <task> DeMoNSeED, noob question, comment = add "#" on the line?
[04:50] <ExcaliBer> yes im on kde right now
[04:50] <tidalwav1> warbo: it's dapper. it was upgraded from a Breezy installation.
[04:50] <ExcaliBer> its beutiful
[04:50] <intelikey> Warbo   i know that.  i know how bash works.   but the prompt doesn't affect the command.   you can cp/paste into root shells.
[04:50] <HesNikke> erm HDA
[04:50] <ExcaliBer> its the best
[04:50] <initard> Warbo, i have no nm256, i even did $ whereis nm256 and got nothing
[04:50] <HesNikke> rather than the BIOS disk of SDA
[04:50] <Warbo> tidalwav1: Oh. Like mine then.
[04:50] <HesNikke> and now it's installing rather than finishing O_o
[04:50] <HesNikke> uhg
[04:50] <HesNikke> i don't like this installer
[04:50] <tidalwav1> warbo, yes, but you probably have xwindows working. :(
[04:50] <tidalwav1> lol
[04:51] <Warbo> initard: Then I guess that isn't right then. Have you tried doing "/etc/init.d/udev restart"?
[04:51] <HesNikke> someoen needs to do something with linux installers... make them as easy and pretty as oh i dunno, an OS X install
[04:51] <DeMoNSeED> task, you should register on here, then we could work on this for as long as it takes, it gets a lil hard to follow convos at points in here...so busy
[04:51] <Warbo> tidalwav1: It's only a matter of time :)
[04:51] <initard> Warbo, what does that do?
[04:51] <PwcrLinux> brb
[04:52] <Madpilot> greetings, Ubuntubers
[04:52] <Warbo> initard: The /etc/init.d directory is where boot scripts are stored. udev manages hardware and restart tells it to restart
[04:52] <tritium> HesNikke: OS X installer only has to work on Apple hardware.  Linux installers have to work on numerous varieties of hardware...
[04:52] <Smerity> excuse me, I'm pretty new to Ubuntu, is this a bug of some kind? I don't believe flashplayer-mozilla is obsoleted - "Package flashplayer-mozilla is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[04:52] <HesNikke> i said pretty/easy LIKE the apple installer :P
[04:52] <initard> warbo no good
[04:52] <Ohzie> I'm trying out xfce, and love it...but I'm having a problem with mounting.
[04:52] <initard> warbo that didnt get it
[04:52] <HesNikke> uhg
[04:53] <Ohzie> Specifically, I'm having a problem in mounting a cd-rom
[04:53] <Warbo> initard: OK, go to /dev (in a terminal) and run sudo ./MAKEDEV
[04:53] <HesNikke> now i have an error loading operating system
[04:53] <HesNikke> screw this, i'm going back to gentoo
[04:53] <HesNikke> tata
[04:53] <tRSS> can someone help me with setting permissions on a folder and its subfolders?!
[04:53] <welshbyte> Smerity: what did you do to get that message?
[04:53] <Warbo> Ohzie: Is it possible to add GNOME (or maybe KDE) volume-managerment to your startup to sort thjis out?
[04:53] <skypa> shoot tRSS
[04:53] <initard> Warbo, now what?
[04:53] <_jason> tRSS: what are you trying to do?
[04:53] <newbuntu> whats a good vnc client to use to connect to a remote desktop,  i have krdc  and krfb but neither seem to work to connect to my home computer
[04:53] <Agamotto> Smerity:  It is essentially telling you it has been replaced with another package.  Search Synaptic for 'flashplayer non-free'
[04:53] <intelikey> gimp must be broken on my system.   it cant open in 125m of free ram without paging....
[04:53] <Smerity> welshbyte, sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[04:53] <Warbo> tRSS: "chmod something folder -R"
[04:54] <Ohzie> Warbo: I don't know. o_o?
[04:54] <tRSS> skypa: my permissions are all messed for some reason on my .wine folder in my home directory
[04:54] <Ohzie> Let me check
[04:54] <Warbo> Ohzie: I just wonder if they need a load of GNOME or KDE daemons running
[04:54] <skypa> as Warbo stated, just reset them recursevly to your needs
[04:54] <Ohzie> Warbo: Do you know what the gnome volume manager process is called?
[04:54] <tRSS> and when I try to fix it, obviously through nautilus, the permissions are fixed for some folders but not all
[04:54] <intelikey> newbuntu tightvnc
[04:54] <initard> Warbo, i did sudo ./MAKEDEV in /dev...still now sound
[04:54] <Ohzie> gnome-volume-manager?
[04:54] <newbuntu> thanks
[04:54] <Ohzie> Awesome
[04:54] <Ohzie> Hold on
[04:55] <Warbo> Ohzie: I think so (I used to think it was for my sound :))
[04:55] <skypa> *recursevly
[04:55] <Ohzie> Hoooold on.
[04:55] <Ohzie> I'll be right back
[04:55] <initard> Warbo, i did sudo ./MAKEDEV in /dev...still no sound
[04:55] <hawk_wolf> DId Excalibure leave?
[04:55] <tRSS> some folders still have permissions set for root, although this wasn't the case yesterday. the permissions have messed all by themselves
[04:55] <Ohzie> Restarting it
[04:55] <blindx> Any programs to take a program's button OFF the task list, and make an icon for it in the tray?
[04:55] <zntneo> whats the command to check what shell your using
[04:55] <Warbo> initard: Hmmm. Have you got a Device type application (in Applications > System Tools or System > Administration)?
[04:56] <initard> Device Manager, Warbo
[04:56] <Warbo> initard: also have a look through "lsmod | less" for anything that looks promising
[04:56] <intelikey> tRSS some folders where?
[04:56] <skypa> zntneo, "export | grep -i shell"
[04:56] <tRSS> inside the .wine folder
[04:56] <Warbo> initard: Well I'm on Dapper so I don't know :)
[04:56] <hawk_wolf> I found the solution to my refresh rate problem and Rebooted and for the first time since I installed, I was able to see the password screen during bootup clearly
[04:56] <zntneo> thanks
[04:57] <blindx> Any programs to take a program's button OFF the task list, and make an icon for it in the tray?
[04:57] <cowbud> is there a program that makes it easy to backup home directories to DVDs?
[04:57] <Warbo> initard: In mine there is a whole subtree of Sound Comtroller
[04:57] <initard> Warbo, theres some snd_blahblahs lines
[04:58] <intelikey> tRSS ah... well you can sudo chown -R trss:trss $HOME/.wine     but if there is anything "MOUNTED" there it may not stay owned on a remount.
[04:58] <jeeaar> can someone tell me how come when i try to open a floppy disk, i get the error: given UDI is not a mountable volume?
[04:58] <tritium> sophie^: in case you didn't notice, you're no longer quieted
[04:58] <newbuntu> now i cant figure out how to open tightvnc
[04:58] <Warbo> jeeaar: Is this in GNOME or in aterminal?
[04:58] <blindx> newbuntu, viewer or client?
[04:58] <jeeaar> GNOME
[04:58] <cge> How do I set up konqueror to use my home directory as the desktop? Symbolic links (Desktop -> /home/$USER) don't appear to work as they do in GNOME. (asking in here since no one in #kubuntu seems to know)
[04:59] <sophie^> tritium, my apology
[04:59] <newbuntu> the viewer, im new to linux remote desktopping
[04:59] <intelikey> newbuntu man tightvnc
[04:59] <Warbo> jeeaar: Also, I had to insert the floppy module in my dad's system. Try (in a terminal) "sudo modprobe floppy" then trying
[04:59] <newbuntu> thanks intel
[04:59] <initard> Warbo, will upgrading to dapper reconfig my sound card?
[04:59] <blindx> newbuntu: run "vncviewer"
[04:59] <intelikey> tightvncserver - Virtual network computing server software
[04:59] <tRSS> intelikey: thanks... that worked like a charm. but I wonder, why or how the permissions got messed up in the first place. Nothing has changed since yesterday?
[04:59] <newbuntu> worked thanks a lot
[04:59] <Warbo> initard: I doubt it. If it was already configured it would, but I don't think it will go from nothing
[05:00] <[tlv] fUzZy^> Hi, can I install ubuntu on a 850mb HDD?
[05:00] <Agamotto> initard:  Do you have your /home on a different partition than /?
[05:00] <cge> [tlv] fUzZy^: I wouldn't recommend that you do that.
[05:00] <Agamotto> eeeek
[05:00] <[tlv] fUzZy^> but would it work?
[05:00] <Warbo> initard: Also I'm sure people will complain if I recommend an upgrade to Dapper
[05:00] <Agamotto> Whoever asked that - yes, you can, but please split the drive into at least four partitions before doing so
[05:00] <initard> Agamotto, no, but i have a partition with another ubuntu on it and thats where all my music and junk, but not my  /home dir
[05:01] <intelikey> tRSS idk
[05:01] <Agamotto> hrm....
[05:01] <tRSS> idk? :o?
[05:01] <tRSS> !idk
[05:01] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tRSS
[05:01] <Ohzie> Warbo: I totally don't think it's working
[05:01] <Ohzie> But I might be wrong.
[05:01] <tRSS> lol... idk = i don't know.. never mind, my bad! thanks again though
[05:01] <Agamotto> initard:  I wish I knew more about the sound subsystem to be of help
[05:02] <initard> ARGHHHHHHH thanks anyhow
[05:02] <initard> fuck
[05:02] <overrider> can anyone suggest a good gui ftp program?
[05:02] <Warbo> Ohzie: Sorry, that's my suggestion. Even in GNOME I never use the "computer" thing, because that usually doesn't work (says I have 3 CD Drives, no floppy, crazy USB disks all over the place. Errors when I try to mount anything)
[05:02] <intelikey> gftp
[05:02] <jeeaar> the floppy doesnt appear to be working after i try sudo modprobe
[05:02] <Ohzie> :(
[05:02] <blindx> anyone know what ports VNC uses by default?
[05:02] <Ohzie> Maybe I'll try the KDE one.
[05:03] <blindx> nevermind: found out. port 5900
[05:03] <Warbo> blindx: Firestarter will tell you (add a rule and it will show)
[05:03] <Mr-packet> i cam getting an error on login. " your session only lasted less than 10 seconds. "
[05:03] <Agamotto> jear:  Out of stupidity... do you have a multi-card reader hooked up?
[05:03] <Mr-packet> i have a " mkdtemp: private socket dir: Permission denied ": error as well
[05:03] <intelikey> oh kewl    Setting up linuxvnc (0.6-3) ...
[05:04] <Warbo> Mr-packet: This is because you logged out straight away. This is usually an error (but occasionally get it from just logging out really quick) something in your startup is dodgy
[05:04] <Agamotto> Mr-packet:  start by going into the failsafe terminal session
[05:04] <Agamotto> Mr-packet: enter /home/yourusername
[05:05] <Warbo> Agamotto: Is there a Failsafe GNOME option or am I confused?
[05:05] <Mr-packet> agamoto: yup
[05:05] <tritium> sophie^: no worries, buddy :)
[05:05] <Agamotto> Mr-packet: rm /ICE.authority
[05:05] <Agamotto> This file gives me crap about twice a year
[05:05] <cge> [tlv] fUzZy^: Not sure if it would work - would you be using it as a desktop?
[05:05] <[tlv] fUzZy^> yeash
[05:06] <intelikey> Agamotto /ICE.authority   ???
[05:06] <Agamotto> Warbo:  No, I was referring to the failsafe terminal session at Ubuntu startup
[05:06] <Mr-packet> is that not .ICEauthority?
[05:06] <intelikey> yeah
[05:06] <Agamotto> yes, I stand corrected
[05:06] <intelikey> and it's in $HOME  not /
[05:06] <Agamotto> I did state that you lot are going a bit fast for me :)
[05:06] <Warbo> Agamotto: I know that Failsafe GNOME usually doesn't work when GNOME doesn't, but I was wondering if it is in Ubuntu's GDM. I use a few distros
[05:06] <iceman> anyone used old 2.4 kernel distros ... how to enable sound in a old distro ..
[05:06] <newbuntu> I cant find anywhere on the remote desktop software to type in a password, my destop has an IP address and a password
[05:07] <Agamotto> If I recall, I did state /home/youruserid
[05:07] <Nallii> If anyone feels like dealing with a complete Linux newbie, say aye.
[05:07] <Mr-packet> i've tryed removeing it..
[05:07] <Mr-packet> same problem
[05:07] <Agamotto> NallII:  If you go slow, I may be able to help
[05:07] <Nallii> Otherwise I won't go about bothering anyone here.
[05:07] <intelikey> iceman yes and new ones :)
[05:07] <Warbo> iceman: Generally the same as 2.6. I think ALAS is default in most later 2.4s
[05:07] <Warbo> ALSA
[05:07] <Nallii> All right, lemme explain what my problem is.
[05:07] <mlowe> python is looking for os.path what package has this ?
[05:07] <Agamotto> Mr-packet:  Darn... That solves all sorts of X problems for me about twice a year
[05:07] <intelikey> iceman you modprobe the driver
[05:08] <escobar5> hello, can i get my ipod mounted automatically when plugged in?
[05:08] <madewokherd> mlowe: python
[05:08] <iceman> intelikey how to ?
[05:08] <DBO> Nallii, I got Agamotto's back, lets do this thing =)
[05:08] <intelikey> iceman what card ?
[05:08] <Agamotto> DBO:  Thanks
[05:08] <iceman> crystal
[05:09] <Agamotto> Brailleboards tend to lose a lot of the extra characters in some nics
[05:09] <DBO> Agamotto, you sounded unsure, Im gonna let you take lead here, good learning for you too if you are a bit unsure =)
[05:09] <Agamotto> nicks, even
[05:09] <intelikey> iceman which cs ?
[05:09] <Agamotto> Naalli:  GA
[05:09] <Mystery47> hello...
[05:09] <Nallii> Windows recovery messed up somehow in the process of moving all my saved files and messed up my windows folder. I want to Install Captive with the Live CD so I can move back what happened.
[05:09] <iceman> would have to rip my case open like 2781 ..
[05:10] <Mystery47> why ubuntu have old version about DosBox...?
[05:10] <iceman> brb
[05:10] <Nallii> But the install file that came with Captive inside the tar.gx does not work, and I cannot access root to manually copy the files there.
[05:10] <DBO> Nallii, sadly, captive does not work with ubuntu... you may be better of using BartPE
[05:10] <Agamotto> Nallii:  You used the recovery mode of a Win cd to restore/fix your system and it did what to it?
[05:10] <intelikey> iceman it's something like     modprobe snd-cs2781    then   bash_completion can help you find it.
[05:10] <DBO> s/of/off
[05:10] <Mystery47> how can i make deb-package from tar.gz....
[05:10] <Nallii> Oh, It moved vital system files so I cannot boot up normally anymopre.
[05:10] <escobar5> can i get my ipod mounted automatically when plugged in ?
[05:10] <Nallii> *anymore
[05:10] <tritium> Mystery47: checkinstall
[05:11] <Agamotto> Nallii:  ouch
[05:11] <jmoncayo> does somebody know where can i get the stealing the network how to own a continent book?
[05:11] <Nallii> Yup.
[05:11] <Nallii> I would just wipe it and install linux on it, but it's not my computer.
[05:11] <jeeaar> hey, sorry. my compy crashed. I am having trouble with my linux machine.. its giving me "given UDI is not a mountable volume", when i try to open up a floppy
[05:11] <Agamotto> Too far out of my league, I am afraid... I haven't done much with Windows in two years now
[05:11] <Mystery47> is that some command?
[05:11] <Nallii> What I want to do is make it so I can read and write NTFS... you said "BartPE" does it right?
[05:11] <intelikey> iceman  or ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/sound/
[05:11] <DBO> Nallii, http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
[05:11] <Agamotto> jeeaar:  Do you have a card reader attached?
[05:11] <jeeaar> as im new to linux, i have no idea how to solve this
[05:12] <jeeaar> card reader?
[05:12] <Agamotto> Card readers sometimes come up as floppy drives, confusing things
[05:12] <Mystery47> and some guestion about fakeroot make-dpkg....
[05:12] <jmoncayo> how can i mount a sd card?
[05:12] <Mystery47> yes fakeroot fakes root....but where i get that make-dpkg thing?
[05:13] <jeeaar> im not aware of a card reader...
[05:13] <jeeaar> but then again, i dont really know what a cars reader is
[05:13] <Smerity> Agamotto, thanks mate =) Will do
[05:13] <jeeaar> *card
[05:13] <mlowe> madewokherd, thank you ;) !
[05:13] <intelikey> not to be confused with a cars driver of course
[05:14] <Agamotto> jeeaar:  Hrm... I know there is a gui tool that shows what devices are connected currently...
[05:14] <Nallii> Thanks Agamotto, DBO.
[05:14] <Nallii> I'll give it a try.
[05:14] <PwcrLinux> ahh, Im back
[05:14] <jmoncayo> jeeaar, its something were you insert sd, memory stick, and those kind of cards for reading
[05:14] <DBO> Nallii, its your best shot =)
[05:14] <Nallii> Well...hopefully. ;)
[05:14] <cfh_dev> My networking seems to have gone screwy with a Dapper update some time back.  Is it possible to update via apt-get using a live CD?
[05:15] <Nallii> Also as for installing Ubuntu on MY computer, I can set up the partitions so I can have both Ubuntu and Windows on my machine, yes?
[05:15] <escobar5> ok, i guess nobody knows, thanks !
[05:15] <DBO> Nallii, yep, you sure can
[05:15] <jeeaar> is there a terminal command that allows me to open the floppy drive?
[05:15] <Nallii> Yes, escobar5.
[05:15] <cge> [tlv] fUzZy^: You might want to look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[05:15] <intelikey> cfh_dev yeah.... with chroot  or pivot_root   either one.
[05:15] <Agamotto> jeeaar:  mnt /floppy
[05:15] <DBO> Nallii, make sure you install windows first, and partition the drives ahead of time for easy use (partition, not format)
[05:16] <nickrud> cfh_dev, you could chroot to your dapper install for the apt-get install --download-only
[05:16] <Nallii> All right, In that case I'll move all my vital files to my other HDD and just start clean.
[05:16] <cfh_dev> intelikey or nickrud, can you give me an example of what to do?
[05:16] <Nallii> Need to format anyway with my corprate edition. :P
[05:16] <cfh_dev> I'm not familiar with using chroot
[05:17] <DBO> escobar5, is it showing up as a regular hard drive?
[05:17] <nickrud> cfh_dev, it truly depends on your circumstances, just what exactly is borked?
[05:17] <DBO> nuts... too late
[05:17] <jmoncayo> how can i mount a secure digital memory(card) ??
[05:17] <jeeaar> "mount: cant find /floppy in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[05:17] <Nallii> I told him he could, I've got mine plugged in heh
[05:17] <cfh_dev> nickrud, whenever I get a connection to the router, it won't traverse the router.  It won't even ping the other side of the router.
[05:17] <intelikey> cfh_dev   sudo chroot /<mounted/hdd> apt-get <args>         replase within <>
[05:17] <cfh_dev> nickrud, but everything works fine using a live cd
[05:18] <cfh_dev> intelikey, thanks, I'll give it a try
[05:18] <blindx> how come ubuntu won't run my monitor at 1280x1024? (please don't fixres me, I know that information. whenever i do a dpkg-reconfigure ... when i reboot, gdm doesn't load and i have to do it again, to "fix" it.)
[05:18] <jmoncayo> does somebody have an emachines m6809 or any m68**
[05:18] <nickrud> cfh_dev, ah, that's not a dapper install issue, that's a networking issue. Unfortunately, I am no networking guru.
[05:19] <PwcrLinux> who's talking about the card reader?
[05:19] <cfh_dev> nickrud, I'm figuring it to be a driver issue and hoping an update will cure things since an update broke things
[05:19] <DBO> blindx, /etc/X11/xorg.conf -> pastebin
[05:19] <jmoncayo> PwcrLinux, me
[05:19] <blindx> k gimme one second.
[05:20] <intelikey> jeeaar normal floppy drive is /dev/fd0    try   sudo mount /dev/fd0 /floppy        or /dev/.static*/fd0 if needed.
[05:20] <nickrud> cfh_dev, I agree with intelikey's general approach
[05:20] <PwcrLinux> jmoncayo: Okay what's wrong with your card reader, does your desktop show icon after you plugged a card into reader?
[05:20] <cfh_dev> Can I use apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade per usual or should I do --download-only with the commands?
[05:21] <intelikey> dl only
[05:21] <jmoncayo> PwcrLinux, well i have a laptop that comes with card reader, i am using fluxbox and it doesnt have any icons, do you know how to mount a sd card manually?
[05:21] <cfh_dev> for both commands or just dist-upgrade ?
[05:21] <DBO> intelikey, cant he use chroot to install the debs or am I being stupid?
[05:21] <PwcrLinux> jmoncayo: Oh, lowmemory system right?
[05:21] <schtinky> I'm new to ubuntu and I need the zvbi package, but I need 0.2.17 and all synaptic shows is 0.2.16-1... can I get the newer version somehow?
[05:22] <jmoncayo> PwcrLinux, yea
[05:22] <intelikey> DBO he can but it's safer to run that on the running system isn't it ?
[05:22] <jmoncayo> PwcrLinux, do you have any ideas?
[05:22] <cfh_dev> schtinky, have you checked in universe or multiverse?
[05:22] <blindx> DBO, http://pastebin.com/664329 -- but keep in mind, that's after re-running dpkg-reconfigure outside of the gdm because gdm wouldn't load..
[05:22] <DBO> intelikey, I was under the impression he was unable to boot it for some reason, my mistake
[05:22] <PwcrLinux> jmoncayo: build-in or a USB card reader?
[05:22] <schtinky> cfh_dev, I'm so new to ubuntu, I'm not sure what those terms mean
[05:22] <DBO> blindx, I found your problem
[05:22] <jmoncayo> PwcrLinux, build-in
[05:23] <intelikey> it "might" grab a kernel version or something that would be in error from the live....
[05:23] <cfh_dev> schtinky, ahh.  Are you familiar with adding sources to apt-get (sources.list) ?
[05:23] <blindx> DBO: shoot.
[05:23] <Madpilot> !tell schtinky about universe
[05:23] <intelikey> oh DBO no it's a network issue.  no problem booting
[05:23] <PwcrLinux> jmoncayo: Okay, do  dmesg  if you see the card reader on the list or not..
[05:23] <m5m> Poseidon UML Community Edition is saying it's expired and I thought it was free!  Bah... Anyone know of a good free UML modeler ?
[05:23] <schtinky> cfh_dev, my synaptic package manager says I have breezy official, restricted, universe and multiverse
[05:23] <jmoncayo> PwcrLinux, let me see
[05:23] <DBO> blindx, http://pastebin.com/664330
[05:24] <schtinky> cfh_dev, it also says under updates that I have universe, but not multiverse
[05:24] <DBO> I made changes
[05:24] <cfh_dev> schtinky, try adding multiverse.
[05:24] <DBO> intelikey, I agree, I thought we had hit a last resort situation
[05:24] <intelikey> :)
[05:24] <schtinky> cfh_dev, are "updates" development packages?
[05:24] <cfh_dev> schtinky, you could probably try checking packages.ubuntu.com before doing that to make sure the page version is available.
[05:24] <intelikey> schtinky no
[05:25] <blindx> DBO: how do I reload my xorg without rebooting?
[05:25] <jeeaar> how can i open a .url file as it would appear in the windows environment?
[05:25] <DBO> CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[05:25] <DBO> hmmm
[05:25] <intelikey> looks like he pressed that....
[05:25] <DBO> I probably should have told him that would happen
[05:25] <intelikey> lol
[05:25] <jeeaar> hehe
[05:26] <dts> I am looking to build a small closed box that can be completly configured over the network
[05:26] <schtinky> cfh_dev, packages.ubuntu.org says 0.2.17-5 is available for dapper
[05:26] <dts> Is there any good tools i  should be looking at?
[05:26] <schtinky> cfh_dev, will it mess me up royally to install that package?
[05:26] <intelikey> jeeaar cat file.url
[05:26] <schtinky> cfh_dev, and HOW do I install that package
[05:26] <DBO> welcome back
[05:26] <nickrud> one should always recommend logout before clt-alt backspace :)
[05:26] <blindx> DBO: I'm in 1280x1024 now, great..
[05:26] <blindx> but...
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> dts,  webmin is nice.  - if you are carefull and lock it down good.
[05:26] <intelikey> jeeaar that would let you view and access the actual url
[05:26] <blindx> the refresh rate is so low I'm going to have a seizure.
[05:27] <DBO> nickrud, yeah, but that requires... thinkering...
[05:27] <jeeaar> yes
[05:27] <cfh_dev> schtinky, you will have to update other things around it as needed but apt-get will handle that.  I'm not sure you want to get into cross release updates.
[05:27] <jeeaar> what do you mean cat file it?
[05:27] <schtinky> cfh_dev, I'm probably better off just downloading and compiling the source, right?
[05:27] <DBO> blindx, are you sure your monitor supports a higher refresh rate?
[05:27] <blindx> It used it on windows?
[05:27] <dts> Dr_Willis, i was thinking that but could you set it up so that a system could use it on its first boot
[05:27] <nickrud> DBO, fingering is always easier than thinkering, I know :)
[05:27] <cfh_dev> Anyone with suggestions on grabbing a package from dapper while running breezy for schtinky?
[05:27] <mlowe> what text to speech packages ?
[05:27] <dts> Dr_Willis, so that whoever sets the computer up never actually has to connect a monitor and keyboard
[05:27] <tritium> mlowe: festival
[05:28] <blindx> ahhh, sunglasses. much better.
[05:28] <jmoncayo> PwcrLinux, http://pastebin.com/664332 dont know which one is
[05:28] <cfh_dev> schtinky, if you're comfortable with resolving dependencies and compiling, it won't hurt anything and you'll have the version you want without tinkering apt
[05:28] <intelikey> blindx before you freek   you can  [ctrl] +[alt] +[+]    hehhe but that's only an emergency fix.
[05:28] <jeeaar> intelikey: what do you mean by cat file.url?
[05:28] <PwcrLinux> jmoncayo: okay I'm looking at now
[05:28] <Darkadian> I installed ubuntu and it didn't detect my sound card. (sound blaster compliant pci0
[05:28] <DBO> blindx, okies, lemme look
[05:28] <schtinky> ugh, this is frustrating... I can't get FC5 to install on my AMD 64 X2, but breezy doesn't have the package I need
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> dts,  i have a file server in the basement that way.  I can ssh in, and use vnc, and webmin as needed.
[05:28] <intelikey> jeeaar in a terminal   type  that
[05:28] <jeeaar> kk
[05:28] <schtinky> FC5 has zvbi version 0.2.19
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> dts,  but for the first boot.. its a little hard to do. :P
[05:29] <DBO> blindx, are you able to change the refresh rate in System -> Preferences -> resolution
[05:29] <jmoncayo> PwcrLinux, oki man got it. it was /dev/sdb1
[05:29] <jmoncayo> PwcrLinux, thanks
[05:29] <blindx> no, the only option it gives me is 43, DBO
[05:29] <DBO> oh heh...
[05:29] <DBO> ouchies
[05:30] <blindx> when it was 1024x768, the only option i got was 60.
[05:30] <gamma> i'm having issues with network-manager... for some reason nm isn't dhcping my wireless connections.. any idea how to fix this?
[05:30] <blindx> so i don't know wtf..
[05:30] <nickrud> I've forgotten, what's the easiest way to get a package from debian unstable, then compiling it for ubuntu?
[05:30] <Agamotto> blindx:  lcd panel?
[05:30] <blindx> no, crt
[05:30] <intelikey> blindx put the correct rates in the xorg.conf
[05:30] <blindx> intelikey, if 43 isn't there, gdm doesn't load.
[05:30] <Agamotto> That would be the easiest correction
[05:31] <intelikey> blindx 43 what ?
[05:31] <schtinky> what does this mean? checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:31] <blindx> 43hz refresh rate
[05:31] <DBO> blindx, I know where the problem is, erm, I just suck at the math
[05:31] <schtinky> got it when trying to ./configure the zvbi sources
[05:31] <intelikey> blindx that's not what i'm talking about.
[05:31] <blindx> schtinky, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:31] <DBO> blindx, what refresh rate does it normally run?
[05:31] <nickrud> schtinky, you need to do sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:31] <blindx> DBO: 60
[05:32] <schtinky> what's it giving me?
[05:32] <DBO> blindx, on your monitor there should be printed (probably somewhere on the back) the horizontal and vertical sync (they will be ranges givin in hertz)
[05:32] <PwcrLinux> jmoncayo: yes, it's sdb1 a multi card reader..
[05:32] <Agamotto> If memory serves, X pretty much craps out if it can't find a refresh rate above 30-35 Hz
[05:32] <intelikey> blindx is's your   HorizSync    VertRefresh    i'm talking about
[05:32] <stevio> I seem to have deleted the panel that program windows are minimized to. I've made a new panel but windows will not minimize to it, anybody tell me how to do this?
[05:32] <nickrud> schtinky, gcc, make, dpkg-dev, a couple of other things
[05:32] <Agamotto> Ahem, that info is usually in the manual as well
[05:32] <blindx> Somewhere on the back, eh? so right next to the wall?... lemme go look..
[05:33] <nickrud> schtinky, apt-cache show depends build-essential tells you exactly what it installs
[05:33] <DBO> intelikey, #
[05:33] <DBO>         HorizSync       28-48 VertRefresh     43-72
[05:33] <Doomhammer> what's a command-line app that can send email to say ... a gmail account
[05:33] <DBO> thats for blindx
[05:33] <jmoncayo> PwcrLinux, yea thanks a lot
[05:33] <DBO> who will be blind shortly with that refresh rate
[05:33] <schtinky> doomhammber, sendmail
[05:33] <duncanm> what do i do to make it not try to start X on startup?
[05:33] <PwcrLinux> jmoncayo: does it's mounting works by the command?
[05:33] <schtinky> doomhammer, sendmail
[05:33] <Doomhammer> schtinky: ah thanks :P
[05:33] <Agamotto> DBO:  Nah, his jitter rate will just match that of some old flourescent lights
[05:34] <mmmiiikkkeee> in tryinto install a  tarball i get the following ::> ./Configure
[05:34] <mmmiiikkkeee> bash: ./Configure: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[05:34] <blindx> says 60-50Hz
[05:34] <nickrud> Doomhammer, you'll needto install an app that provides sendmail :)
[05:34] <intelikey> DBO that's not that bad of a range.  but he needs the correct range for his monitor.
[05:34] <mmmiiikkkeee> does i in ot install bash??
[05:34] <nickrud> mmmiiikkkeee, what?
[05:34] <DBO> blindx, for vert or horizontal?
[05:34] <intelikey> blindx no that's input ac   nothing to do with what you want.
[05:34] <Doomhammer> nickrud: i can't just send an email with sendmail in a shell script ?
[05:34] <blindx> oh, jeez.
[05:34] <mmmiiikkkeee> i get the message: ./Configure
[05:34] <mmmiiikkkeee> bash: ./Configure: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[05:34] <DBO> ah yeah... that is isnt it
[05:35] <mmmiiikkkeee> when i try to install a tarball
[05:35] <Henry_Bean> hi, somebody has problems to synchronize a palm in a dapper up-to-date?
[05:35] <nickrud> Doomhammer, try     which sendmail          in a terminal, make sure it exists
[05:35] <mmmiiikkkeee> does that meani need to install bash??
[05:35] <mmmiiikkkeee> i dont understand
[05:35] <_jason> mmmiiikkkeee: it means the file was saved on a mac
[05:35] <blindx> my monitor doesn't say it, then :\\
[05:35] <Doomhammer> nickrud: yeah /usr/sbin/sendmail ?
[05:35] <jmoncayo> PwcrLinux, yea it work mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[05:35] <_jason> mmmiiikkkeee: run dos2unix on the files
[05:36] <mmmiiikkkeee> k
[05:36] <tdillman> Howdy all
[05:36] <nickrud> Doomhammer, then you're good to go
[05:36] <Doomhammer> nickrud: okay then
[05:36] <intelikey> dos markup     hehhe
[05:36] <PwcrLinux> jmoncayo: okay great :) when you done with a card, then unmount and remove a card, help to avoid Dead I/O detecting...
[05:36] <intelikey> Doomhammer also if you plan to build you need b-e
[05:36] <intelikey> !b-e
[05:36] <ubotu> somebody said b-e was no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.
[05:37] <jmoncayo> PwcrLinux, oki thanks again
[05:37] <Ohzie> I can mount an ftp server, right?
[05:37] <tdillman> anyone wanna help me set up a girlfriend-friendly tv-out on a Geforce FX Go5700 ?
[05:37] <Doomhammer> intelikey: nah, i just want to send an e-mail in a shell script
[05:37] <PwcrLinux> jmoncayo: ur welcome
[05:37] <Ohzie> Like, that works? There's no real problem with it?
[05:37] <blindx> DBO: I don't see a refresh rate on the back of my monitor...
[05:37] <burepe> Please help me fix this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161391
[05:37] <DBO> blindx, ok, please hold... and try not to have a seizure
[05:37] <DBO> blindx, what monitor?
[05:37] <blindx> DBO: wearing sunglasses. helps.
[05:38] <nickrud> blindx, there's gotta be some info on that label you can google, to get your refresh rates
[05:38] <Ohzie> DBO: You can set it to 60Hz relatively safely.
[05:38] <Ohzie> No matter what monitor it is, that should just work.
[05:38] <mmmiiikkkeee> where do i get dos2unix ??? i did whereis dos2unix and it showed no results
[05:38] <intelikey> blindx then goto http://monitorworld.com  and search for your monitor
[05:38] <Ohzie> It might look like crap
[05:38] <Ohzie> But
[05:38] <Ohzie> >_>
[05:38] <_jason> mmmiiikkkeee: install the sysutils pacakge
[05:38] <DBO> Ohzie, better than 43 =P
[05:39] <blindx> it's a gateway 2000 brand..
[05:39] <_jason> mmmiiikkkeee: what are you trying to compile by the way?
[05:39] <blindx> but i don't know the model..
[05:39] <fogos> i someone knows how configure a hotkey to show the destop??
[05:39] <intelikey> Ohzie hehhe this one wont work at 60
[05:39] <_jason> fogos: system > prefs > keyboard shortcuts
[05:39] <Ohzie> lol ohdear. :(
[05:39] <Agamotto> 60Hz on most monitors should be ok, unless it is an older one designed for Amigas
[05:39] <mmmiiikkkeee> it the native linux driver for my usb wirelesscard
[05:40] <overrider> after installing the nvidia driver, for some reason i cannot select my resolution of 1680x1050 anymore, even after it is specified in xorg.conf. any suggestions?
, there are a "shoe desktop " option?
[05:40] <intelikey> or an old svga
[05:40] <mmmiiikkkeee> i know there is also the ndiswrapper bt i thoughi try this one first..
[05:40] <_jason> fogos: ``minimize all windows on active desktop'' or something similar
, ok thanks
[05:42] <mmmiiikkkeee> i searched in the synaptic manager for dos2unix but it was not found
[05:42] <iceman> anything i should be aware of to update a 2.4 kernel ... ?
[05:43] <intelikey> !info dos2unix
[05:43] <_jason> mmmiiikkkeee: sysutils is the package name
[05:44] <iceman> anyway to update a old linux distro to a ubuntu based install ?
[05:44] <tritium> mmmiiikkkeee: apt-cache search dos2unix would have revealed what _jason just told you
[05:44] <Madpilot> iceman, it might be easier to just re-install from an Ubuntu CD
[05:44] <Agamotto> iceman:  More trouble than it would be worth, just do a clean install
[05:45] <mmmiiikkkeee> thanks :)
[05:45] <intelikey> mmmiiikkkeee it's in sysutils
[05:46] <mmmiiikkkeee> do i run it on the configue file or all the files?
[05:46] <_jason> mmmiiikkkeee: might as well do all...
[05:46] <intelikey> iceman apt-cache search dos2unix   drew a blank here.
[05:46] <intelikey> iceman  did you test it ?
[05:47] <tdillman> anybody proficient with nvtv?
[05:48] <intelikey> yeah s/iceman/tritium/  ^
[05:48] <mmmiiikkkeee> dos2unix: File read/write error while converting RT25USB-SRC-V2.0.7.0.
[05:48] <tritium> intelikey: sure did
[05:48] <mmmiiikkkeee> and i did: sudo dos2unix RT25USB-SRC-V2.0.7.0
[05:48] <_jason> mmmiiikkkeee: only the text files
[05:48] <intelikey> tritium have they rewriten apt-cache ?
[05:48] <tritium> intelikey: perhaps a difference between breezy/dapper?
[05:48] <_jason> mmmiiikkkeee: maybe you should download this from somewhere else?
[05:49] <intelikey> yeah that's what i'm wondering.
[05:49] <mmmiiikkkeee> i dnt knwo any other location
[05:50] <intelikey> i used  "grep -HiRae'dos2unix' /var/lib/dpkg/info"   to find it tho.
[05:50] <blindx> intelikey, I couldn't find out what model monitor I'm using, but it's a gateway 2000 brand. Checking all the monitors under gateway 2k brand, the lowest in the range was 47hz, and the highest was 150.. so why am I running at 43hz? :\
[05:52] <mmmiiikkkeee> sudo dos2unix ./Configure
[05:52] <mmmiiikkkeee> dos2unix: No write permission for ./Configure.
[05:52] <mmmiiikkkeee> how can sudo not have write prmisions??
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> is that spelt right?
[05:53] <intelikey> blindx you need to get the HorizSync and VertRefresh correct,
[05:54] <intelikey> blindx try the gateway 2k that is nearest yours....
[05:54] <intelikey> mmmiiikkkeee no ./ needed
[05:55] <welshbyte> mmmiiikkkeee: i think ./Configure is a binary file
[05:55] <intelikey> but that doesn't answer your quarry does it....
[05:55] <Agamotto> If memory serves, most Gateway 2000 series monitors were made by CTX
[05:55] <Agamotto> I don't know if that helps or not
[05:56] <intelikey> blindx see Agamotto ^
[05:56] <cyberboy> aint gkrelll in the update programs
[05:56] <Marineboy> To tell you the truth, in the mid 80's there was *nothing* more dependable than microsoft. I like to climb onto the bandwagon now and then, but there's noone in the world that provides more usablity to the world than microsoft
[05:56] <cyberboy> like on the cd
[05:56] <cyberboy> just got down the dvd version
[05:56] <Marineboy> nickrud To tell you the truth, in the mid 80's there was *nothing* more dependable than microsoft. I like to climb onto the bandwagon now and then, but there's noone in the world that provides more usablity to the world than microsoft
[05:56] <Marineboy> sorry thats what he said.
[05:56] <Marineboy> what you guys think about it?
[05:57] <_jason> !offtopic
[05:57] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[05:57] <Marineboy> oh sorry
[05:57] <nickrud> heh
[05:57] <cyberboy> heh
[05:57] <cyberboy> im calling my pimp. just for the hell of it
[05:58] <cyberboy> :)
[05:58] <intelikey> Marineboy there is no software company more insufferable to a GNU-zealot than M$
[05:58] <Marineboy> lol
[05:58] <blindx> ok, it's a crystal scan!
[05:58] <blindx> wooooo
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> Ive gotten quite irked at 'Nortons" lately.
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:59] <blindx> there's only 5 of those..
[05:59] <Madpilot> folks, #ubuntu-offtopic exists - even M$ can be discussed there... ;P
[05:59] <cyberboy> :(
[05:59] <Agamotto> ahhh, it was of some help then
[06:00] <intelikey> Madpilot i've already descusseded with it.  :)
[06:00] <blindx> I called linksys for help with my router because it wasn't working properly..
[06:00] <blindx> the guy was like "are you running windows XP?"
[06:00] <blindx> "uh.. nope, actually I'm running--" he cuts me off with "Mac OSX?"
[06:01] <Marineboy> lol
[06:01] <blindx> "no. I'm running ubuntu" "um.. what is that?"
[06:01] <Marineboy> same with my isp a little while ago.
[06:01] <chavo> you're not runnin' that loonix are ya?
[06:01] <noiesmo> let us guess no support
[06:01] <Marineboy> nope
[06:01] <fires> you're supposed to just say windows and then translate whatever he says
[06:01] <blindx> "look: what do you want me to do, I'll do it." "um. click start"
[06:01] <blindx> "sigh"
[06:02] <intelikey> fires learning curve ?
[06:02] <tritium> please stay on topic...
[06:02] <blindx> which topic, tritium?
[06:02] <tritium> that would be ubuntu, blindx
[06:02] <chavo> loonix?
[06:02] <nickrud> help with ubuntu, blindx not my ramblings :)
[06:02] <blindx> I'm talking about ubuntu :P
[06:02] <mmmiiikkkeee>  sudo dos2unix Configure
[06:02] <fires> intelikey, eh?
[06:02] <mmmiiikkkeee> dos2unix: No write permission for Configure.
[06:03] <mmmiiikkkeee> is that not the right command??
[06:03] <mmmiiikkkeee> what did i do wrong?
[06:03] <intelikey> mmmiiikkkeee Configure  exists ?
[06:03] <intelikey> not  configure ?
[06:03] <mmmiiikkkeee> yea
[06:03] <mmmiiikkkeee> it was tabcompleated
[06:03] <mmmiiikkkeee> and i see the file
[06:03] <intelikey> hmmm
[06:03] <mmmiiikkkeee> no its a capital C
[06:04] <tritium> !tell mmmiiikkkeee about enter
[06:04] <intelikey> yeah windows files  caps first letter....
[06:04] <intelikey> mmmiiikkkeee maybe chatter Configure
[06:04] <intelikey> or first ls atter
[06:04] <intelikey> or first lsatter
[06:05] <mmmiiikkkeee> what is chatter configure???
[06:05] <intelikey> no e in that me thinks.
[06:06] <intelikey> mmmiiikkkeee lsattr Configure
[06:06] <intelikey> type               ^
[06:07] <sagarp> how can i change the main menu icon in gnome??
[06:07] <mmmiiikkkeee> it said ::>  lsattr Configure
[06:07] <mmmiiikkkeee> ----------------- Configure   ::> does tah mean it worked?
[06:07] <intelikey> yes
[06:07] <mmmiiikkkeee> now i do make?
[06:07] <intelikey> ok then sudo chmod 644 Configure
[06:08] <monkey_> stupid question: How can I change the size of my icons?
[06:08] <intelikey> and try the dos2unix again.
[06:08] <nickrud> monkey_, right click them (on the desktop) and select stretch icon
[06:08] <mmmiiikkkeee> i get ::> No write permission for Configure. again
[06:08] <obscurite> monkey - in a panel, or on your desktop?
[06:09] <schtinky> how can I tell if a remote server has multiple hard drives?
[06:09] <nickrud> schtinky, only if you have access to the remote server
[06:10] <intelikey> it's not set immutable,  and you run that as root..... hmmmmm    it using stdout or what there......    maybe  "sudo -i "   then just plain "dos2unix Configure "
[06:11] <mindtzar> tell mindtzar about ntfs
[06:11] <_jason> mindtzar: /msg ubotu ntfs
[06:11] <intelikey> !tell mindtzar about ntfs
[06:12] <Nallii> DBO, I used that link you gave me and it works to an extent. Is there a way I could get DVD burning capabilites with it?
[06:12] <intelikey> mmmiiikkkeee that work ?
[06:12] <Marineboy> intel: nickrud suggests I make 4 partitions, swap, root, home, and a safe,working default, tested install partition I know when I go to install ubuntu its going to ask how I want to partition my Hard Drive, theres going to be like 4 choices, do you know which one it is that I choose to put in the 4 different partitions?
[06:12] <mmmiiikkkeee> one sec
[06:13] <DBO> Nallii, why yes there is...
[06:13] <DBO> Nallii, how... I do not know
[06:13] <intelikey> Marineboy manually partition
[06:13] <Nallii> Hmm.
[06:13] <Marineboy> okay.
[06:13] <Marineboy> Thanks intel!
[06:13] <Agamotto> My hands are falling asleep
[06:13] <Nallii> I'll work on it tomorrow.
[06:14] <Nallii> Agamotto, hot scalding water cures that.
[06:14] <Nallii> True story.
[06:14] <intelikey> you drink it ?
[06:14] <boydubai> guys, can anybody help me setting up a VPN connection? i'm going to connect to our europe office. thanks
[06:15] <Jason> hello hello :)
[06:15] <Marineboy> Hello Jasey!
[06:15] <Jasey> heyas
[06:15] <Jasey> id like some help, if poss
[06:16] <mmmiiikkkeee> dos2unix ./Configure that worked...
[06:16] <mabus> nickrud: Canada... worth a shot.
[06:16] <intelikey> mmmiiikkkeee ok remember you are in a root shell there until you    'exit'   so be careful
[06:16] <Marineboy> Jasey: here you pretty much state your problem then someone will help you!
[06:16] <digitalhav0c> does anyone know how i can install a minimal install of ubuntu
[06:16] <Jasey> oh alrighty :)
[06:16] <nickrud> mabus, damn, though you lived in my country, california
[06:17] <Daskies> I have java web start instlled, but I see no icon for it. How can I launch it?
[06:17] <Jasey> so im going to run a CD in breezy badger, its all mounted and stuff, but it says Error: Given UDI not a mountable volume ... (im a linux n00b btw :P)
[06:17] <Daskies> *installed
[06:17] <mabus> nickrud: Nah, I like living in a country people don't hate. It's soothing.
[06:17] <nickrud> digitalhav0c, when you boot the install disk, select server for your install (see F2 - F5 for more info on options)
[06:17] <mmmiiikkkeee> do i need to exit the root shell to run the configure?
[06:17] <digitalhav0c> ahh
[06:17] <digitalhav0c> cool
[06:17] <digitalhav0c> thanks nickrud
[06:18] <digitalhav0c> im in a mepis install right now
[06:18] <intelikey> mmmiiikkkeee that also tells me that dos2unix uses stdout in it's writing process  with  >   thus it doesn't have root permission even though it's called with sudo.... like   sudo echo blah > /test
[06:18] <nickrud> digitalhav0c, look deeper, I'm just giving general info here
[06:18] <digitalhav0c> and .. just too much stuff installed for me
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> heh - i tried Mepis.. for a very short time..
[06:18] <digitalhav0c> yeah
[06:18] <digitalhav0c> Dr_Willis, great distro for a newb
[06:18] <burepe> xawtv says "stick you settings in the config file ($HOME/.xawtv)" but what exactly do I put in it?
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> digitalhav0c,  I would reccomend Ubuntu over Mepis for a newb. :P
[06:19] <digitalhav0c> really?
[06:19] <nickrud> yeah, no kde
[06:19] <nickrud> lol, hides
[06:19] <digitalhav0c> Mepis got about every app u would need for day to day work
[06:19] <intelikey> gentoo for nubs
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> Yes - the mepis forum and wikis are subpar.. and really it had nothing that outstanding abou tit.
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> The Live cd/installer was its biggest feature :P i thought
[06:19] <digitalhav0c> yeah
[06:20] <digitalhav0c> pretty easy install also
[06:20] <Madpilot> !+enter
[06:20] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> and I hear the Next Mepis will be based on ubuntu. So that is a credit to Ubuntu favor.
[06:20] <digitalhav0c> maybe about two choices it does the rest you reboot and working install
[06:20] <digitalhav0c> everything works also
[06:20] <fmonroe> hello, i have a newbie question is this the right place?
[06:20] <Madpilot> fmonroe, it is
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> Im wondering if the Ubuntu live cd installer will be based on the Mepis Live cd installer.
[06:20] <jake__> Newbie Question: New to Ubuntu, Everything works except audio. - Error message: "No Volume contol elements and/or devices found" When I dbl click on Volume Control. --Rockwell Sound Card. I've spent hours searching for this before. Does anyone have any sugestions?
[06:20] <nickrud> I'm almost scared that everyones basing off ubuntu
[06:21] <mmmiiikkkeee> when i do::>./Configure i get...  -bash: ./Configure: Permission denied
[06:21] <fmonroe> i screwed up and did an "expert" install and now i have root instead of the usual "sudo" setup. my sudo doesn't do anything, i'd like to use sudo like a normal install
[06:21] <fmonroe> i hope that makes sense
[06:21] <mmmiiikkkeee> i am loged in as root
[06:21] <Madpilot> jake__, have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:21] <intelikey> Dr_Willis Madpilot nickrud just a note ffr   dos2unix uses stdout >    thus sudo wont work with it.
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> IVe seen other issues with similer programs. :P
[06:22] <digitalhav0c> fmonroe, if you do expert you get root yay!! lol i cant stand the sudo for everything deal
[06:22] <nickrud> intelikey, ok
[06:22] <jake__> No I havent Yet. I'll check it out. Thanks
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> ive never tried to use sudo with dos2unux :P
[06:22] <eggzeck> mmmiiikkkeee, check config file permissions
[06:22] <Madpilot> fmonroe, might want to just re-install
[06:22] <intelikey> mmmiiikkkeee not executable.  "chmod 777 Configure && exit "
[06:22] <mmmiiikkkeee> yea i just noticed it does not have execute pirmission
[06:22] <Madpilot> !tell fmonroe about expert
[06:22] <spikeb> oh that reminds me
[06:22] <Madpilot> fmonroe, or try the recovery steps ubotu just sent you
[06:23] <fmonroe> mad: really that's the only solution? i just got everything else working including my quad video setup
[06:23] <spikeb> somebody tell me about frostwire
[06:23] <Madpilot> fmonroe, see the pm the bot just sent you
[06:23] <mmmiiikkkeee> thank you!! its running
[06:23] <mmmiiikkkeee> :)
[06:23] <eggzeck> :)
[06:23] <Madpilot> !tell spikeb about frostwire
[06:23] <Jasey> Question : Why does the CD thing in Breezy Badger always complain "Given UDI not a valid mountable volume."???
[06:23] <spikeb> thanks
[06:23] <whyami> any tips on concatenating 2 mpeg videos in ubuntu? I've tried mpeg3cat and mpgjoin...
[06:24] <Madpilot> spikeb, just for future ref: you can /msg ubotu
[06:24] <intelikey> mmmiiikkkeee isn't M$ markup wonderful in a tarball   :)
[06:24] <fmonroe> thank!
[06:24] <flyingfox> hi, dapper scheduled to be released on june 1?
[06:24] <spikeb> Madpilot, i JUST read that in the faq, heh
[06:24] <spikeb> Madpilot, sorry :)
[06:24] <nickrud> flyingfox, yes
[06:24] <Madpilot> spikeb, np. start with /msg ubotu list
[06:24] <flyingfox> ok thks
[06:24] <spikeb> now i'll go quiet for a couple hours
[06:24] <spikeb> hehe
[06:24] <noiesmo> whyami, think you can do cat movie1.mpg >>movie.mpg
[06:25] <mmmiiikkkeee> lol yea... ok now whenit runs i get:: Linux source tree '/usr/src/linux-2.6.12-10-686-smp' is incomplete or missing!... how do i get the source for the kernal?
[06:25] <intelikey> mmmiiikkkeee i still say if you are running a configure you probable need  b-e  if it isn't installed.
[06:25] <whyami> noiesmo: aren't there headers that need to be processed?
[06:25] <intelikey> !b-e
[06:25] <ubotu> I guess b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.
[06:25] <Intangir> does anyone here program for linux? where should i go to learn how to debugg an application
[06:25] <mmmiiikkkeee> what is b-e ?
[06:25] <intelikey> mmmiiikkkeee ^
[06:26] <eggzeck> mmmiiikkkeee, read what ubotu said
[06:26] <slavik> b-e = build-essential
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> Intangir,  depends on what language for a start
[06:26] <slavik> DDD is nice
[06:26] <Intangir> im using C++
[06:26] <intelikey> yeah language and interface
[06:26] <slavik> DDD
[06:27] <Intangir> im using this anjuta IDE and it doesnt work
[06:27] <Intangir> for debugging, i set breaking points, i load the debugger, i run it
[06:27] <jack-> ktrace is your friend
[06:27] <Intangir> it goes right past them
[06:27] <michael117> I have a nfs disk on a remote computer on the network set to automatically mount on boot in my fstab, but occasionally my ethernet cable is disconnected and my computer doesn't seem to be very forgiving of this. How can I make it adapt to a disconnected ethernet cable instead of freezing everything up?
[06:27] <noiesmo> whyami, are the to mpegs in series you can do cat movie.mpg > movietest.mpg and then do cat movie1.mpg >> movietest.mpg then you wont break originals
[06:27] <slavik> Intangir: anjuta 2.0 has a built in debugger
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> michael117,  welcome to the joys of networked file systems. :( lol.
[06:27] <Intangir> does it work?
[06:28] <Intangir> anjuya 1.. whatever im using supposedly has one too, but its not working
[06:28] <Intangir> anjuta rather..
[06:28] <michael117> Dr_Willis: Any solutions or possible alternatives?
[06:28] <slavik> anjuata 2.0 should not be used
[06:28] <intelikey> michael117 hack the networks init script
[06:28] <slavik> it is still in devel
[06:28] <intelikey> /etc/init.d/networking
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> michael117,  i seem to recall theres being a few thousand discussions on this in different forums/mailing lists. :P last i looked  - but that was a few yr back.
[06:29] <Marineboy> root@ubuntu:~# md5sum /dev/hdc
[06:29] <Marineboy> md5sum: /dev/hdc: Input/output error
[06:29] <Marineboy> root@ubuntu:~#
[06:29] <Marineboy> UGH
[06:29] <noiesmo> whyami, i just tried the cat commands as above and worked the 2 mpegs were part of a series download from web
[06:29] <whyami> noiesmo: this is for a DVD. When I combine the mpgs, they play fine on vlc but my home DVD player coughs when it gets to where the 2nd mpeg starts.
[06:29] <jmoncayo> could somebody tell which one of these is better xpdf or kpdf?
[06:29] <spikeb> hmm
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> could just write your own littke init script and run it last. and let it spawn to the bg to mount the stuff
[06:29] <brandon_> jmoncayo: neither
[06:29] <spikeb> xpdf is older
[06:30] <jmoncayo> brandon_, then?
[06:30] <dj-fu> xpdf pwns
[06:30] <brandon_> just use ocroread
[06:30] <brandon_> acroread
[06:30] <noiesmo> whyami, think you might need to run thru like mencoder to fix up headers etc
[06:30] <intelikey> jmoncayo pdf is evil
[06:30] <tritium> nonsense
[06:30] <whyami> noiesmo: I tried that, but then the audio doesn't sync up w/ the video on the 2nd mpeg.
[06:30] <baconbacon> why
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:30] <Madpilot> jmoncayo, try evince - it's better than xpdf
[06:30] <jmoncayo> intelikey, why?
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> pdf2ps
[06:30] <spikeb> i dont even think pdf is a closed format, isit?
[06:30] <tritium> Madpilot: not in all respects
[06:30] <noiesmo> whyami, dam
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Ive had issues with Evince
[06:30] <intelikey> yeah use ps
[06:30] <tritium> no, it's not, spikeb
[06:31] <spikeb> tritium, then it ain't evil :)
[06:31] <noiesmo> whyami, well thats me help sorry it didnt help
[06:31] <mmmiiikkkeee> when i run the configure i get::> Linux source tree '/usr/src/linux-2.6.12-10-686-smp' is incomplete or missing!
[06:31] <Madpilot> still, as nasty as it is, Acroread is still the best PDF renderer going so far...
[06:31] <tritium> spikeb: no, pdf is fine
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> Ive seen pdf used on web sites in soo many BAD ways...
[06:31] <dell500> for some reason i can't unrar anything... it says unrar is not in my path
[06:31] <jmoncayo> can i apt-get install acroread?
[06:31] <whyami> noiesmo: I appreciate the effort. This seems like such a simple thing...
[06:31] <Madpilot> jmoncayo, yes
[06:31] <spikeb> ick
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> !unrar
[06:31] <ubotu> Dr_Willis: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:31] <digitalhav0c> Madpilot, i agree acroread
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> lol
[06:31] <dell500> !rar
[06:31] <ubotu> it has been said that rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[06:31] <Madpilot> !rar
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> its not in ubotu's path either!
[06:31] <intelikey> Dr_Willis yeah... flash too but that don't make me like either of them.
[06:31] <jack-> apt-get install unrar
[06:31] <dell500> lol
[06:31] <jack-> done
[06:32] <dell500> i think i already did that
[06:32] <jmoncayo> but i need a light pdf viewer?
[06:32] <buulian> what are some great books on all around hacking of linux to check out?
[06:32] <jack-> i think you did not
[06:32] <Madpilot> jmoncayo, then try evince
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> Flash seems to be not as annoying as it once was.. for most sites i visit
[06:32] <freen0de> some free games for ubuntu?
[06:32] <mmmiiikkkeee> how doi get the source tree?
[06:32] <linuxnoob007> yo peeps
[06:32] <jack-> apt-get install xthrust
[06:32] <jack-> enjoy
[06:32] <brandon_> jmoncayo: acroread has some nice plugins for the file browsers that are light
[06:32] <Madpilot> freen0de, there's lots of free games for Ubuntu - have a look at Applications->Games
[06:32] <linuxnoob007> whats the command to setup dhcp on eth0
[06:32] <whyami> jmoncayo: if you want a dependable pdf viewer that will show you what the windows and OS X users are seeing with their pdfs, use acroread.
[06:32] <jack-> dhclient eth0
[06:33] <noiesmo> whyami, maybe check out transcode
[06:33] <linuxnoob007> ty jack!
[06:33] <PuMpErNiCkEl> freen0de: BZflag, Cube, tuxracer
[06:33] <jack-> np
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> buulian,  http://openbooks.oreilly.com/
[06:33] <freen0de> no not those.
[06:33] <freen0de> like, FPS based
[06:33] <jack-> freen0de: you should really try xthrust
[06:33] <jack-> oh
[06:33] <jack-> lol
[06:33] <freen0de> xthrust?
[06:33] <jack-> get quake2 then
[06:33] <spikeb> hey i know of one
[06:33] <slavik> bzflag runs slow ...
[06:33] <baconbacon> freen0de, neverball is fun
[06:33] <noiesmo> whyami, http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> RTCW:ET :P
[06:33] <spikeb> freen0de, give me a sec
[06:33] <PuMpErNiCkEl> freen0de: Cube - it's kinda like Quake2, I think
[06:33] <intelikey> mmmiiikkkeee   it's  linux-tree-2.6.*
[06:33] <linuxnoob007> does it have to be run as sudo jack?
[06:33] <whyami> noiesmo: thanks. I'll look at that.
[06:33] <slavik> tuxracer = planetpenguin racer doesn't run anymore
[06:33] <slavik> cube?
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> 'slune' is great!
[06:33] <jack-> the game? nope
[06:34] <jack-> the apt-get? yes
[06:34] <jmoncayo> whyami, so what do you think about evince? kpdf comes with the default installation of ubuntu, should i unsinstall it
[06:34] <PuMpErNiCkEl> slavik: BZflag runs much faster in 2.0.6
[06:34] <pepsi^^> tuxrace is a bad bad bad game
[06:34] <PuMpErNiCkEl> slavik: As in about 2 to 3 times as fast.
[06:34] <buulian> Dr._Willis: thanks
[06:34] <nickrud> addictive == bad ?
[06:34] <Madpilot> freen0de, Enemy Territory is free to download
[06:34] <baconbacon> tuxracer is kind of half-finished
[06:34] <pepsi^^> it'snt addictive
[06:34] <pepsi^^> it's a shit
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> FrozenBubble!
[06:34] <Madpilot> pepsi^^, language, thanks...
[06:34] <linuxnoob007> frozen bubble is!
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:35] <freen0de> thanks all
[06:35] <nickrud> Dr_Willis, you are a pusher
[06:35] <pepsi^^> frozen bubble is a good game
[06:35] <Madpilot> I just discovered Same-Gnome - that's an addictive little puzzle game!
[06:35] <pepsi^^> but i don't know if you can install new levels
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> Been playing some Word Game.. "Anagramama" or similer..
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> Its nifty.. for a while
[06:35] <mmmiiikkkeee> so do i apt-get linux-tree-2.6.* ???
[06:35] <spikeb> freen0de, there are the quake games, and http://www.nexuiz.com/ and one other im trying to find
[06:35] <pepsi^^> because it's very repeat
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> "Puzzle Pirates" works under Linux/Java :P
[06:36] <slavik> I mean, my laptop is not very fast, but for the detail in bzflag, it is still slow
[06:36] <nut> how do I get normal fonts .. times new roman, etc ?
[06:36] <jmoncayo> should i uninstall kpdf before installing other pdf viewer??
[06:36] <pvd2006> I need a message to pop up at a certain time to remind me to do something.  What command would you use for that
[06:36] <Madpilot> nut, you mean MS fonts?
[06:36] <brandon_> no
[06:36] <nut> yes
[06:36] <Smerity> nut - msttfont thing I think
[06:36] <slavik> nut: you mean microsoft fonts?
[06:36] <Madpilot> !tell nut about fonts
[06:36] <intelikey> nut normal ?
[06:36] <jmoncayo> brandon_, i shouldnt uninstall?
[06:36] <nickrud> pvd2006, I'd use either at or cron, running a script that uses zenity
[06:37] <spikeb> bah i can't find it
[06:37] <brandon_> jmoncayo: no
[06:37] <intelikey> normal fonts is like terminal-bitstream
[06:37] <nickrud> pvd2006, personal preferences & knowledge, ymmv
[06:37] <Koharski> anyone good with mySQL or just SQL in gereral PM me
[06:37] <linuxnoob007> anyone running aiglx with compiz? I am and its sweet
[06:37] <brandon_> jmoncayo: it doesn't matter either way
[06:37] <Koharski> thanks ;)
[06:37] <Intangir> programming for linux is like a nightmare.. ive programmed in C++ for 8 fears and i cant figure out how to use a damn debugger to save my life on linux..
[06:37] <Intangir> how the hell is this supposed to work, why are there no decent tutorials anywhere...
[06:37] <boydubai> guys... is it possible to set up a VPN connection in Ubuntu? i'll be connecting to our office abroad and i need a VPN connection.. please help.
[06:37] <Intangir> why doesnt it work...
[06:37] <baconbacon> you used visual studio right
[06:37] <slavik> Intangir: then there is something wrong with you
[06:37] <Intangir> man i hate programming for linux..
[06:37] <jmoncayo> oki thanks a lot
[06:37] <Madpilot> Koharski, there's a #mysql channel
[06:37] <Intangir> ya visual studio
[06:37] <Intangir> its like night and day
[06:38] <slavik> Intangir: you hate programming FOR linux or ON linux?
[06:38] <jmoncayo> later, going to sleep good night
[06:38] <Koharski> really? thanks madpilot
[06:38] <slavik> too many buttons
[06:38] <brandon_> boydubai: there's a vpn client
[06:38] <Ares>  Hey all, newbie to linux here. Is there a channel I can get help on?
[06:38] <pepsi^^> someone can say me a dns ip ?
[06:38] <jack-> <3 openvpn
[06:38] <Intangir> debugging on visual studio is really really easy
[06:38] <Madpilot> Ares, this is it
[06:38] <Ares> ok cool
[06:38] <Intangir> if i ever figure out how to debug on linux..
[06:38] <slavik> Intangir: I've been coding for like 2 years and couldn't figure it out
[06:38] <Madpilot> Intangir, take the programming talk to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[06:39] <slavik> figured it out in DDD and dev-cpp though
[06:39] <intelikey> Intangir as soon as you get used to it, you'll never go back.
[06:39] <Intangir> intelikey: do you know how to debugg C++ on linux?
[06:39] <Intangir> if anyone has done it i could sure use some help
[06:39] <spikeb> Intangir, you could always use an IDE like kdevelop
[06:39] <intelikey> Intangir i don't know c++  or c-- for that matter.
[06:39] <baconbacon> Intangir, go to #ubuntu-offtopic plz
[06:39] <Intangir> can you compile gtk code on kdevelop?
[06:40] <Intangir> and debug gtk code?
[06:40] <spikeb> oh
[06:40] <linuxnoob007> i have a apprentice im helping in using linux. YOu know xgl is gonna bring so many new pppl
[06:40] <spikeb> Intangir, good luck there
[06:40] <intelikey> Intangir isn't there like a ##C++  channel tho
[06:40] <slavik> yes there is ...go there
[06:40] <Intangir> there is but its for windows guys
[06:40] <intelikey> lol
[06:40] <Ares> I just installed Ubuntu and this is my first attempt at linux. I have two broken packages (files?) and I can't fix them
[06:40] <devie> there is probably a #gtk or #qt channel
[06:41] <Madpilot> Intangir & intelikey - #ubuntu-offtopic for the programming chat, because it's busy here...
[06:41] <Ares> Can someone help me out with it?
[06:41] <jack-> apt-get -f install
[06:41] <slavik> Ares: open synaptic
[06:41] <nickrud> Ares, what packages, and if you could put the errors on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:41] <Ares> Ok, already open
[06:41] <slavik> Ares: yes
[06:41] <linuxnoob007> took the words outa my mouth jack
[06:41] <slavik> tell us the names of packages
[06:41] <linuxnoob007> :))
[06:41] <jack-> o_O
[06:41] <intelikey> !tell Ares about borked
[06:41] <Ares> linux-image-386
[06:41] <linuxnoob007> is anyone using dapper?
[06:41] <nickrud> !borked
[06:41] <ubotu> [borked]  try  " sudo  apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install `dpkg -S LC_MESSAGES | cut -d: -f1 | tr ', ' 'n' | sort -u`  " that should fix your broken install/upgrade.
[06:41] <nickrud> christ
[06:42] <intelikey> Ares if all else fails try what ubotu messaged you.
[06:42] <jack-> yes, and go to #ubuntu+1 for dapper shit
[06:42] <brandon_> i'm using dapper
[06:42] <jack-> you'll get smacked here
[06:42] <nickrud> mrf, sorry
[06:42] <tritium> jack-: language, please
[06:42] <linuxnoob007> brandon_, did you have to install braile?
[06:42] <Madpilot> jack-, you'll also get smacked for language use here...
[06:42] <jack-> ;p
[06:42] <brandon_> braile? what the hell is that?
[06:42] <linuxnoob007> for the blind
[06:42] <buulian> will ubuntu linux communicate with dot matrix printers out-of-the-box?
[06:42] <tritium> brandon_: language!
[06:42] <linuxnoob007> i had to set one up for me
[06:42] <linuxnoob007> dunno why
[06:42] <linuxnoob007> i just have a laptop
[06:43] <slavik> buulian: can I have the printer?
[06:43] <linuxnoob007> but on dist upgrade
[06:43] <linuxnoob007> it installed it
[06:43] <brandon_> is this the FCC channel?
[06:43] <buulian> slavik, wanna pay shipping?!
[06:43] <brandon_> is braille for gnome or kde?
[06:43] <buulian> i got screwed on ebay- unless you pay shipping
[06:43] <Madpilot> brandon_, no, but a basic level of manners is expected here...
[06:43] <linuxnoob007> brandon_, gnome
[06:43] <linuxnoob007> its in accesibility
[06:44] <intelikey> nickrud hadn't you seen !borked before ?
[06:44] <slavik> buulian: how much would shipping be?
[06:44] <linuxnoob007> its fucked up
[06:44] <brandon_> lemme check the installed packages
[06:44] <linuxnoob007> caus it asked for the tty
[06:44] <linuxnoob007> and i was like wtf
[06:44] <nickrud> intelikey, no, I'm looking that one over
[06:44] <buulian> lol- why do you want it? for nostalgia?
[06:44] <brandon_> hey, howcome he can say the F word?
[06:44] <tritium> linuxnoob007: no foul language like that!
[06:44] <Madpilot> brandon_, notice he just got banned for it...
[06:44] <buulian> linuxnoob007: go away
[06:45] <Ares> Ok so I ran the command, I said done for the first two lines then gave me this: E: Couldn't find package aptnnbase-confignndebconf-i18nnndpkg
[06:45] <intelikey> nickrud i have used it on broken installs that nothing else seemed to help.  but it should be a last resort.
[06:45] <nickrud> intelikey, If that comes out like I hope it does, that's a great thing
[06:45] <intelikey> nickrud it works
[06:45] <_jason> Ares: that's because that n should probably be a \n, otherwise it doesn't amke sense to me
[06:45] <brandon_> well, they answer to his q was no, i didn't have to install it
[06:45] <nickrud> intelikey, and it uses cut, & tr, & stuff I can understand :)
[06:46] <mmmiiikkkeee> what is the site for pastebin?
[06:46] <buulian> slavik: do you know if linux will "see" old printers, though?
[06:46] <BBHoss> in the topic
[06:46] <nickrud> no sed & awk
[06:46] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[06:46] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[06:46] <intelikey> i would have just posted a script of that command but ubotu doesn't do scripts well....   hehhe tr and cut are main-stays for me.
[06:46] <intelikey> nickrud ^
[06:46] <_jason> nickrud: what are the advantages of !borked as opposed to just doing apt-get -f install?
[06:47] <PwcrLinux> same addy alert
[06:47] <intelikey> _jason apt-get -f install  wont fix some things that !borked will.
[06:47] <nickrud> _jason, that is a question I was asking above, see: intelikey, If that comes out like I hope it does, that's a great thing
[06:48] <_jason> intelikey, nickrud: I see, so we want to update that n to a \n?
[06:48] <Madpilot> linuxnoobfowllan, not trying to evade your ban, are you?
[06:48] <mmmiiikkkeee> i get the folowing when i try to run ./Configure ::> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12424
[06:48] <intelikey> _jason ?
[06:48] <intelikey> what n / a ?
[06:48] <Jasey> :(
[06:49] <PwcrLinux> :)
[06:49] <robin> i am to the linux world,  how is ubuntu better for some than kubuntu and vise versa?
[06:49] <_jason> intelikey: from ubotu's !borked: tr ', ' 'n' <-- should be '\n'?
[06:49] <jack-> its the same, basically
[06:49] <intelikey> no
[06:49] <nickrud> _jason, I already know you read bash better than I do, you see an issue with that?
[06:49] <jack-> kubuntu has kde as desktop, ubuntu has gnome
[06:49] <jack-> otherwise, exactly the same cheese
[06:49] <Jasey> if it were the same, it wouldnt be seperate ;)
[06:49] <chavo> robin, neither is better, they are different
[06:49] <Jasey> ya
[06:49] <Jasey> they have their ups and downs
[06:50] <chavo> I prefer KDE but have bith installed
[06:50] <mabus> robin: they use different desktop managers... kde (kubuntu) has more of a windows xp look, while gnome (ubuntu) has a more mac look.
[06:50] <mabus> However, gnome is less (but still) bloated.
[06:50] <chavo> well either one can look like anything
[06:50] <Ares> what is the hotkey for paist? ctrl+v doesn't work.
[06:50] <jack-> you can always apt-get install kubuntu-desktop on gnome, or vice versa
[06:50] <jack-> to switch
[06:50] <pvd2006> On the list of time zones for Date/Time I don't see a listing for my state or anything, and I dont see a option to just pick central time
[06:50] <mabus> But the biggest point is probably that this channel has better support than kubuntu.
[06:50] <jack-> so..no biggie, just get one to start with
[06:50] <spikeb> pvd2006, America/Chicago
[06:50] <chavo> it's the functionality that really differs
[06:50] <_jason> intelikey: can you explain what the n is for?
[06:51] <spikeb> Ares, middle click
[06:51] <Ares> ohh wow, cool
[06:51] <spikeb> Ares, highlight copies, middle click pastes. it's pretty awesome :)
[06:51] <_jason> nickrud: to me, seems like apt-get will get passed things like 'base-confignndialog' for example
[06:52] <chavo> well running kubuntu doesn't preclude you from joining this channel and asking for help
[06:52] <intelikey> _jason i see what you are saying...  hehhe ubotu muxt have dropped the  \   tr ', ' '\n'    is correct.
[06:52] <chavo> or giving it for that matter
[06:52] <mmmiiikkkeee> i think this mean i need to install the kernal source... but i am not sure??::> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12424
[06:52] <nickrud> _jason, I haven't parsed the darn line completely yet, I'm a hunt & pecker with those unixy tools.
[06:53] <intelikey> you can cp that within the `` marks to test that part.
[06:53] <spikeb> heh
[06:53] <spikeb> just had a beavis and butthead moment
[06:53] <Madpilot> chavo, there is a seperate #kubuntu channel; obviously some specific desktop stuff is quite different...
[06:53] <chavo> of course, I'm usually in both channels
[06:53] <nickrud> sonic2, someone needs to fix that ubotu factoid, right?
[06:54] <Ares> Ok, before I do something stupid.. Would it be a bad idea to remove linux-image-386 in order to re-dl and install it?
[06:54] <baconbacon> Ares, just don't reboot meanwhile :S
[06:54] <baconbacon> apt-get --reinstall instal linux-image-386 doesn't work?
[06:55] <nickrud> sorry, sonic2 you got caught in a tab completion screwup. _jason you have a correction for that factoid?
[06:55] <Ares> unless I did it wrong, nope
[06:55] <intelikey> !borked
[06:55] <ubotu> well, borked is try  " sudo  apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install `dpkg -S LC_MESSAGES | cut -d: -f1 | tr ', ' '\n' | sort -u`  " that should fix your broken install/upgrade.
[06:55] <intelikey> that looks better _jason ^  thanks for the heads up there.
[06:56] <mmmiiikkkeee> i get the folowing when i try to run ./Configure ::> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12424
[06:56] <_jason> intelikey: yep looks good to me now, although I'm googling now for what the importance of LC_MESSAGES is :)
[06:57] <mDot_lappy> ./Configure != ./configure
[06:57] <intelikey> lol  i guess it dropped the $ also.....
[06:58] <nickrud> yes, that was my thought, dpkg -S LC_MESSAGES | cut -d: -f1 | tr ', ' '\n' | sort -u comes up with some stuff that seems ok
[06:58] <cmatheson> another openoffice question... i've gotten my database setup... and i just want to copy a column from a database into a spreadsheet.  i hit 'F4' to open the datasource view, hi-light the column and then drag it into my spreadsheet, but it will only copy one value at a time... anyone know if there is a way to do the whole column?
[06:59] <slavik> cmatheson: ctrl+c ?
[07:00] <cmatheson> slavik, yeah it doesn't do anything
[07:01] <slavik> cmatheson: no idea, sorry
[07:01] <simi69> hi
[07:01] <cmatheson> slavik: that's ok
[07:01] <Madpilot> cmatheson, you might want to try #openoffice.org
[07:01] <shray> is there any FPS genre games for ubuntu
[07:01] <simi69> can anyone tell me how to run a .bin file?
[07:01] <shray> ?
[07:01] <cmatheson> Madpilot: oh nice, i was just lookig for their channel, thanks
[07:01] <slavik> shray: UT2004, Doom3
[07:01] <simi69> i'm trying to install the java plugin
[07:02] <shray> anything free? =(
[07:02] <slavik> oh
[07:02] <Ares> I feel like I am learning to use the computer all over again :-/
[07:02] <slavik> no ideamate
[07:02] <Madpilot> shray, Enemy Territory - free to download & play
[07:02] <intelikey> sh file.bin
[07:02] <Madpilot> Ares, you are :P
[07:02] <nickrud> simi69, you should use java-package, see !java below
[07:02] <slavik> Ares: but now you are learning for real :)
[07:02] <nickrud> !java
[07:02] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:02] <slavik> that windows stuff was only training for the real thing ;)
[07:02] <Ares> hehe
[07:02] <simi69> thanks! :)
[07:03] <nickrud> Ares, I felt that I was finally getting the machine back :)
[07:03] <blindx> how do you list packages that are found matching a certain name?
 I feel like I am learning to use the computer all over again :-/  <--- you are.   that's the first thing the new linux user needs to recognize.
[07:03] <Smeggy> apt-cache search name?
[07:03] <nickrud> blindx, aptitude search
[07:04] <blindx> oh it's cache
[07:04] <blindx> hey lycade :D
[07:04] <nickrud> blindx, aptitude search only searches on package names, unlike apt-cache search
[07:04] <Lycade> howdy..
[07:04] <slavik> blindx: apt-cache search
[07:04] <slavik> blindx: or use synaptic
[07:04] <blindx> well i just got a million responses. synaptic it is.
[07:04] <intelikey> synaptic search
[07:04] <VR_> i hate browsing through search results in the terminal
[07:04] <pvd2006> so can you do like,   at 12:30am job....
[07:04] <defendguin> does anyone know why when i put my computer into hibernate it goes into hibernation and then wakes right up with no action from me
[07:05] <Lycade> Anyone wanna help me use my grub? :P
[07:05] <slavik> defendguin: hibernate is when it powers down
[07:05] <Ares> hmm ok so I get this when I try to reinstall the linux-image-386... E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[07:05] <defendguin> slavik: i well aware of that
[07:05] <defendguin> i am *
[07:05] <blindx> ever have a near-pain experience and imagine what it would have been like if you actually did drop that chair on foot and smash your toe?
[07:05] <blindx> Sorry, off topic.
[07:05] <spikeb> heh
[07:05] <spikeb> blindx, yes
[07:05] <defendguin> slavik: it powers down the mouse shuts off and then the whole thing starts right up again
[07:06] <defendguin> i dont think it is going all the way down
[07:06] <blindx> heh. i do it too often. Actually start getting squeamish. i picture compound fractures and the such
[07:06] <brandon_> blindx: no, never...never
[07:06] <Lycade> blind - maybe you can help me. >.>
[07:06] <blindx> brandon_, well you're a freak :P
[07:06] <blindx> lol lycade. whats up
[07:06] <Lycade> My grub hates me. :(
[07:06] <Lycade> [spam] 
[07:06] <Lycade> # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
[07:06] <Lycade> # on /dev/hda1
[07:06] <Lycade> title   Windows XP
[07:06] <Lycade> rootnoverify    (hd0,0)
[07:06] <Lycade> chainloader     +1
[07:06] <Lycade> makeactive
[07:06] <baconbacon> once my bike got smashed by a car, can this be near pain :)
[07:07] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[07:07] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[07:07] <Lycade> it won't load
[07:07] <slavik> !tell Lycade about pastebin
[07:07] <brandon_> blindx: i do have near-pleasuer experiences all the time though
[07:07] <blindx> brandon_: I don't doubt the fact that you don't get pleasure, and often imagine getting it ;)
[07:07] <Madpilot> Lycade, tagging with [spam]  doesn't excuse actual channel flooding, just so you know for next time...
[07:08] <Lycade> I know. I just said it as a warning. >.> I also thought it was fewer lines, my bad. :P
[07:08] <blindx> Lycade, I'm not sure. See what ubotu has to say about grub
[07:08] <blindx> !grub
[07:08] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[07:08] <Marineboy> Intel you there?
[07:08] <nickrud> Lycade, that is the standard etnry for a grub boot off a windows install tho
[07:08] <Lycade> It won't load though. >.<
[07:09] <intelikey> Marineboy not atm.   back in a few tho.
[07:09] <blindx> I'm missing a shoe.
[07:09] <Marineboy> Intel: when you get back will you PM me?
[07:09] <steveneddy> can we discuss Ubuntu install here?
[07:10] <tritium> sure, steveneddy
[07:10] <varsendagger> http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/video/brokebackfuture
[07:10] <brandon_> Lycade: windows won't load?
[07:11] <steveneddy> tried to install U on an Athlon XP machine today......something about HD sector errors - we loaded Wondows and quit
[07:11] <blindx> varsendagger, that movie is hilarious
[07:11] <steveneddy> HD probs or not compatable w. U
[07:11] <Zapper> hello
[07:11] <varsendagger> blindx, ha ha
[07:11] <blindx> ok bye...
[07:11] <blindx> :\
[07:11] <Zapper> i got issues trying to install my ubuntu can i get some help please
[07:12] <blindx> running to the store all, back in a few.
[07:12] <whyami> Zapper: state your problem
[07:12] <Lycade> brandon_ - correct, it won't load.
[07:12] <PwcrLinux> steven: you need to defrag on your HD run in the Windows and defrag it..
[07:12] <nickrud> varsdendagger should neve be allowed back :)
[07:12] <brandon_> is it a bad partition error?
[07:12] <Zapper> well............. i tried installing using a raid set up on SATA
[07:12] <pvd2006> I just issued an at command and it didnt run at the time I set it.
[07:12] <Zapper> would not load either boot loader
[07:13] <pvd2006> I just put at 12:12am then on next line put the job
[07:13] <Zapper> so then i moved the drive to normal Sata tried to install on just one drive
[07:13] <Zapper> now pc wont boot
[07:13] <Lycade> I'm not getting any errors
[07:13] <Lycade> It just displays the things listed above and stops there.
[07:13] <brandon_> Lycade: what happens?
[07:13] <Jason> question: i dont know my root p/w! how to reset/find it???
[07:13] <tritium> !tell Jason about rootsudo
[07:13] <brandon_> Jason: reboot into runlevel 1 and reset it
[07:13] <steveneddy> brandon - we tried to clear the HD - wouldn't work well - used a Knoppix CD to wipe and format, but it still wouldn't load any Linux - tried Ubuntu, DSL and Puppy
[07:14] <brandon_> using passwd root
[07:14] <simi69> i'm running a live-cd,  is it possible for me to install the java plugin?  - i have the plugin .bin file...
[07:14] <simi69> but it's loaded on desktop
[07:14] <biyinzika> Hello still new to Ubuntu, can anyone tell me how to install TV Card?
[07:14] <Zapper> can someone plese help me
[07:15] <nickrud> simi69, the livecd is sort of test bed, installing java & it's plugin is a waste.
[07:15] <brandon_> biyinzika: it's probably already installed
[07:15] <Jason> ugh that didnt help, my pm blocker was getting bombarded
[07:15] <slavik> ppracer: 24.185.146.105
[07:15] <slavik> bah
[07:15] <Jason> -_-"
[07:15] <whyami> Zapper: I don't really get it. You were trying to set up a mirror raid, then gave up and devided to install on a single SATA?
[07:15] <slavik> *** ppracer error: Couldn't initialize video: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[07:15] <devie> simi: I believe (and don't shoot me if I'm wrong) you would have to mount your /home directory to something writable, like a pen drive, then you can install packages for the local user
[07:15] <biyinzika> so how do i tell which application to launch to watch?
[07:16] <Zapper> no i tried to install on raid0 but the boot loaders would not load
[07:16] <Zapper> so since it gives instructions how to boot through dos command i am a dos retard
[07:16] <simi69> i have a 10gb reiserfs partition, but for some reason it's saying there's no space left on it..
[07:16] <Zapper> so then i tried to install on a single sata drive
[07:16] <Jason> ((((( tritium )))))) can i get you to make uboto say that again, as i was previously blocking queries and didnt receive ANY of what he said :(.. im not now
[07:16] <Zapper> intall success
[07:16] <Zapper> but boot disk failure
[07:16] <brandon_> Lycade: you can boot using a live cd, mount your linux hard drive partition, chroot to it, and then run the grub-install program
[07:16] <Zapper> when booting
[07:17] <devie> simi69, because when you boot LiveCD, it mounts all of your disks as read only
[07:17] <whyami> Zapper: sorry. No idea. :-(
[07:17] <Zapper> hmm
[07:17] <obscurite> Zapper, I just did a couple of RAID1 installs on sata
[07:17] <Zapper> ubuntu does support sata does it not?
[07:17] <brandon_> biyinzika: try mythtv
[07:17] <tritium> !tell Jason about rootsudo
[07:17] <Jason> :(
[07:17] <tritium> Jason: :)
[07:17] <Jason> thanks :)
[07:17] <Lycade> Heh.. I wish I just understood all of that. xD
[07:18] <whyami> Zapper: yes. I have a sata w/ AMD64 and runs great.
[07:18] <devie> simi69, if you want to mount it normally, you'll have to do it yourself... and if you want to do it automatically, well, your back to putting your home dir on a pen drive, and using the proper boot command to load the pen drive as your home each time you boot
[07:18] <SoulPropagation> Where do I get browscap.ini for Apache?
[07:18] <brandon_> Lycade: are you talking to me?
[07:18] <Lycade> 1) live cd - I used the normal install, will that work or do I need a new liveCD brandon_ ?
[07:18] <Zapper> that is what i also have sata amd 64
[07:18] <devie> brb, I'm going to logon with irssi instead of xchat
[07:18] <Zapper> but for some reason my pc wont boot
[07:18] <Lycade> brandon_ yea. xD
[07:18] <Zapper> ive never done raid before
[07:18] <Zapper> nor linux
[07:19] <brandon_> Lycade: you've got a livecd?
[07:19] <simi69> /dev/hda1 on /mnt/hda1 type reiserfs (rw)
[07:19] <simi69>  ~~~  /dev/hda2 on /mnt/hda2 type vfat (rw)
[07:19] <simi69>   ~~~ /dev/hda5 on /mnt/hda5 type ntfs (rw)
[07:19] <onephatmind> hey guys
[07:19] <simi69> there's still no space, maybe i can format it?
[07:19] <pvd2006> how do you change the shell that at uses to process jobs
[07:19] <pvd2006> ?
[07:19] <whyami> Zapper: I have never done raid either. My sata/amd is actually running dapper, not breezy.
[07:19] <Lycade> brandon_ - no, I only have the install cd
[07:19] <onephatmind> ok i installed kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu
[07:19] <Zapper> i have the breazy release i think
[07:19] <biyinzika> Where is that mythtv found it's my first time to use ubuntu
[07:19] <brandon_> Lycade: actually, you can run commands out of grub
[07:19] <onephatmind> and in the past 3 hours the system crashed 4 times
[07:19] <whyami> Zapper: actually I just remembered it used to run Breezy, so that isnt the problem.
[07:20] <Jason> thanks tritium ill see if this works
[07:20] <Zapper> then what is the problem
[07:20] <onephatmind> while i had my code open in the middle of work
[07:20] <Zapper> its really frustrating
[07:20] <tritium> Jason: good luck :)
[07:20] <Lycade> brandon_,  - yea I have seen that I can do that. What commands do you want me to run?
[07:20] <Zapper> every time i try linux i get issues
[07:20] <onephatmind> sorry trying to get the error message it threw
[07:20] <devie> back
[07:20] <axisys> my gnome-panel does not start anymore.. no way to call a terminal.. anyone know a fix?
[07:20] <brandon_> Lycade: gimme a sec to research it
[07:21] <devie> I was using VNC for a remote desktop, decided it would be easier to use SSH and IRSSI :)
[07:21] <Lycade> brandon_,  thank you.
[07:21] <axisys> no gnome-panel .. that is no way to access anything but desktop... pretty useless.. restarted with fluxbox until find a fix
[07:21] <onephatmind> shoot its gone, but it was something  like this : "composite manager crashed...."
[07:21] <Zapper> so noone has any ideas?
[07:21] <onephatmind> what would that mean and how do i stop it from destroying my work;)?
[07:21] <simi69> also, another thing with pics and stuff I have on my NTFS partition - I can't send any of that online... and i can access them only thru the menus system/administration/disks, and then pressing browse
[07:22] <simi69> if i'm just in the browser there's no access to it
[07:22] <simi69> *file browser
[07:22] <brandon_> biyinkinka: open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get install mythtv
[07:22] <axisys> how do i force gnome-panel to start?
[07:22] <nickrud> axisys, I'd start by rm -r ~/.gnome2/panel.d
[07:22] <axisys> nickrud: ok.
[07:22] <axisys> nickrud: let me give that a try
[07:23] <nickrud> axisys, that's one place panel info is kept.
[07:23] <Jason> nope that did not help. i cant alter/recover the root password ..
[07:23] <Jason> :(
[07:23] <SoulPropagation> Never mind, I got it
[07:23] <Jason> using linux is pretty hard without the root p/w ..
[07:23] <simi69> what's the best file system to install ubuntu on?
[07:24] <devie> Jason: just sudo everything
[07:24] <DBO> Jason, do you have sudo access?
[07:24] <devie> much better actually
[07:24] <Jason> i havent a clue :D
[07:24] <Lycade> Jason,  type sudo -i, then user pass at prompt?
[07:24] <axisys> nickrud: ran this  mv .gnome2/panel2.d/ .gnome2/panel2.d.broken.. can i start gnome on another session instead of killing fluxbox?
[07:24] <Se7h> simi69 ext3 should do it
[07:24] <onephatmind> axisys, killall gnome-panel to restart it
[07:24] <Jason> ok hold please
[07:24] <brandon_> Jason: reboot into runlevel 1 by typing "telinit 1" at the prompt type "passwd root"
[07:24] <intelikey> Marineboy try the static dev at /dev/.static*/hdc  it could be a udev issue, but not likely.
[07:24] <dli> Jason, root is disabled in ubuntu by default
[07:24] <Madpilot> Jason, ubuntu doesn't use a root pw at all, by default...
[07:24] <nickrud> axisys, as well, I'd rm -r ~/.gconf/apps/panel (assuming you don't have gconf running)
[07:24] <axisys> onephatmind: no terminal
[07:24] <Jason> oh youve all confused me :(
[07:25] <devie> Jason: If you installed the machine, then just prefix every command that requires root with 'sudo ' and then enter your password
[07:25] <Madpilot> Jason, have you read the sudo wiki page?
[07:25] <Madpilot> !+sudo
[07:25] <ubotu> sudo is probably a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:25] <Jason> ive read that
[07:25] <axisys> brb
[07:25] <axisys> restarting w/ gnome
[07:25] <dli> Jason, if you are an experienced linux user/admin, you can enable root, if you are new to linux, just use sudo
[07:25] <axisys> do not know of any other ways
[07:25] <onephatmind> axisys, ctrl + alt + f1 or f2 or f..6
[07:25] <Jason> fine fine brb
[07:25] <devie> If you insist on being root (which you shouldn't) just do 'sudo passwd root' and set a new password
[07:25] <axisys> onephatmind: let me try
[07:26] <onephatmind> ctrl alt f1 to go terminal
[07:26] <onephatmind> your x is on ctrl alt f7 to go back to it
[07:26] <intelikey> Marineboy silly question maybe, but that is the correct device for the cdrom isn't it ?
[07:26] <axisys> onephatmind: i know ..
[07:26] <onephatmind> devie, why shouldnt he?
[07:27] <axisys> onephatmind: but i cannot start x on another virtual space say f2.
[07:27] <Marineboy> intelikey: yes it has to be, because when i did md5sum on it earlier it booted up
[07:27] <axisys> onephatmind: it give display error
[07:27] <devie> I guess it's my Mac OS X background, I prefer not to ever log on to the root account
[07:27] <Marineboy> when i didnt md5sum ont he other one it booted up
[07:27] <brigadon> Should you always restart your machine after you run an upgrade?
[07:27] <sophie^> hi what's the complete path of the desktops icons in ubuntu?
[07:27] <dli> axisys,  try, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:27] <sophie^> *desktop
[07:27] <Marineboy> i'm re-writing it now.
[07:27] <axisys> dli: from another vrtual window?
[07:27] <devie> If I absolutely need root, I boot ubuntu into recovery mode
[07:27] <onephatmind> axi, killall gdm
[07:28] <dli> axisys, that will stop your current X, and restart gdm
[07:28] <Jason> back
[07:28] <Jason> even more lost than before
[07:28] <onephatmind> devie, you know theres a much easier way right?
[07:28] <Madpilot> brigadon, not needed, unless the upgrade manager prompts you for it
[07:28] <nickrud> brigadon, only if it installs a new kernel in general (or maybe new support for some hardware you have, which almost always requires a new kernel anyway)
[07:28] <onephatmind> just enable root login in gnome login settings
[07:28] <brigadon> Thank you very much
[07:28] <Madpilot> onephatmind, that's neither needed or recommened...
[07:29] <onephatmind> madpilot, why?
[07:29] <brigadon> 22 years of DOS and now I am a total linux newbie :P
[07:29] <Jason> its easier for n00bs
[07:29] <intelikey> Marineboy you could mount both the iso and the cd and  diff them also.
[07:29] <Jason> yay brigadon *hugs*
[07:29] <Jason> lol
[07:29] <onephatmind> madpilot, isn't "enter your passwor dto get root" more of a vulnerability?
[07:29] <Madpilot> onephatmind, read the RootSudo page for all the arguements...
[07:29] <onephatmind> that being able to log in as root?
[07:29] <brigadon> It's depressing, heck, I barely even know how to change directories
[07:29] <nickrud> onephatmind, it is just too darned easy to screw your system logged into a gui as root. No other reason, really
[07:29] <brandon_> Lycade: you could try this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76652
[07:30] <Lycade> brandon_,  I'll give it a look over, thanks
[07:30] <intelikey> onephatmind   they don't like that question around here.
[07:30] <onephatmind> hehe gotcha;)
[07:31] <onephatmind> but enabling root login and using it when needed seems to make a tad more sense than booting in recovery mode..
[07:31] <dli> onephatmind, I enable my root passwd for ubuntu
[07:31] <Jason> ok
[07:31] <onephatmind> me too
[07:31] <intelikey> brigadon new to linux ?     forget every thing you think you know about computers, you are starting over.  it's easier to start with no knowledge than with false knowledge.
[07:31] <bliss1_> hi
[07:31] <devie> onephatmind: I enabled my root password for su access
[07:31] <nickrud> onephatmind, I haven't run into a situation where sudo didn't provide me anything a recovery boot did (except for a screwed /etc/hosts file)
[07:31] <devie> onephatmind: but I left it locked out of Gnome
[07:32] <onephatmind> i have
[07:32] <devie> screwed /etc/hosts file was the only time I ever had to boot recovery mode too :)
[07:32] <Jason> all i wanted was to know how to change the silly password. no need for the raucous. cos if i boot into recovery mode, i like to use root for all my working. but i cant log into root IF I DONT KNOW THE PASSWORD :'(
[07:32] <onephatmind> when i get prompted for my own password to get root 20 times in 5 minutes
[07:32] <intelikey> onephatmind or some idiot could lock all passwords and only use auto login.....      like me.
[07:32] <nickrud> onephatmind, sudo persists for 15? minutes, you must have been bouncing around terminals
[07:33] <Madpilot> Jason, use sudo + the pw you gave during install...
[07:33] <Jason> what password?
[07:33] <bliss1_> I want to know what would happen if I ran a live CD mounted for eg hda2 and did some work in hda2 while working from the live cd
[07:33] <onephatmind> jason, are oyu able to log in at all?
[07:33] <Madpilot> Jason, when you installed Ubuntu, it asked for a username + pw, yes?
[07:33] <brigadon> Umm... is Breezy badger forgiving of ATI cards or do you think I should look for a specific driver?
[07:33] <intelikey> jason's passwd
[07:34] <Jason> yeh i can log in
[07:34] <bliss1_> nickrud: hi ,you sound good
[07:34] <onephatmind> why would sudo passwd root not work?
[07:34] <Madpilot> brigadon, my ATI 9600XT runs just fine
[07:34] <intelikey> sudo command      \n   type jason's passwd.
[07:34] <brigadon> I am using an ati rage pro 128
[07:34] <Jason> oh you all have lost me again -_-
[07:34] <Jason> im just gonna reinstall ubuntu, bbl
[07:34] <nickrud> bliss1_, I should sound tired, I'm about to call it an evening
[07:35] <intelikey> jason it will be the same.
[07:35] <onephatmind> jason, type in "sudo passwd root" then enter your password once, then enter new root passwd twice
[07:35] <Jason> ok
[07:35] <Jason> last shot
[07:35] <brigadon> So no additional drivers need to be installed?
[07:35] <intelikey> WARNING! jason reinstalling wont change it.
[07:35] <Jason> if it doesnt work im wiping it clean -.-
[07:35] <brigadon> heh, that's better than installing XP ;)
[07:35] <bliss1_> nickrud: just having breakfast
[07:35] <Jason> yes it will, if you wipe the whole damn hard drive >;(
[07:35] <onephatmind> jason, make no sense
[07:36] <Jason> if
[07:36] <Madpilot> brigadon, AFAIK a Rage 128 should work, not sure if you'll be able to get 3d accel, though
[07:36] <nickrud> Jason, better to kick back for a couple of hours, think over all the conflicting info you just got, and ask again.
[07:36] <intelikey> !sudo
[07:36] <ubotu> well, sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:36] <Jason> oh blah
[07:36] <Jason> bbl im just doing this my way
[07:36] <Jason> ive done it before and ill freakin do it again
[07:36] <onephatmind> jason,  get terminal -> put in "sudo -i" -> put in YOUR passwd -> type in "passwd root"
[07:36] <brigadon> Madpilot, Thank you very much.
[07:36] <nickrud> im just doing this my way <-- can't argue with that :)
[07:36] <onephatmind> jason, why ask then?
[07:37] <Jason> because the answers are more confusing than the problem
[07:37] <Marineboy> Jason
[07:37] <Marineboy> they're saying put in sudo -i
[07:37] <Jason> they werent saying that earlier
[07:37] <Marineboy> and put in YOUR PASSWORD
[07:37] <Jason> oh fine
[07:37] <Jason> brb
[07:37] <onephatmind> jason, i am physically unable to break it down even more
[07:37] <Marineboy> onephatmind jason,  get terminal -> put in "sudo -i" -> put in YOUR passwd -> type in "passwd root  <-- sounds CLEAR to me!
[07:37] <Madpilot> Jason, please go read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo - what everyone is talking about here will then make a LOT more sense!
[07:38] <Jason> it isnt clear for a n00b ok!
[07:38] <Jason> sheesh
[07:38] <onephatmind> i'm a noob
[07:38] <Jason> ive read that before!
[07:38] <Jason> obviously youre not, cos you know what youre talking about!
[07:38] <[C] hris> Is there a stop watch for linux thing?
[07:38] <[C] hris> i need to time some stuff
[07:38] <Jason> brb before i get more losht
[07:38] <qalimas> I'm sorry to ask this here, but #knoppix isn't active right now, and maybe someone here will know: When remastering, what files need to be replaced into the cd to save all theme changes, settings, etc?
[07:38] <nickrud> Jason, no problem, this is supposed to be the relaxing channel :)
[07:38] <Madpilot> Jason, do you remember the password you entered during install?
[07:38] <dli> Jason, you can enable the root passwd. I do
[07:38] <brigadon> QUIT
[07:38] <bliss1_> nickrud: is it possible to work for example from a live CD on say hda2 as root, not to alter the partition but just to do some work in that partition without loseing data
[07:38] <brigadon> oops
[07:39] <Jason> for which, madpilot. the user i had to create?
[07:39] <intelikey> sudo passwd        at the first password prompt type your password, then at the next two password prompts type the new root password....
[07:39] <Madpilot> Jason, yes
[07:39] <onephatmind> jason, if we give you steps to take one by one, can you follow them?
[07:39] <Jason> yeh of course i do. i log in that way
[07:39] <nickrud> bliss1_, sure, I do that often. I haven't used the ubuntu livecd for that, but it's all the same
[07:39] <Jason> yes thats easier!
[07:39] <onephatmind> ok
[07:39] <dli> bliss1_, why do you what to do that?
[07:39] <Jason> yay for a solution
[07:39] <onephatmind> jason, step 1: get terminal
[07:39] <Jason> no no
[07:39] <Jason> not here
[07:39] <Madpilot> Jason, OK, so when you need root access, Ubuntu is set up to ask for your own user pw...
[07:39] <stream36> How's everyone doing?
[07:39] <Jason> can you PM it to me
[07:39] <bliss1_> nickrud: thanks
[07:39] <onephatmind> jason, pm me
[07:40] <Madpilot> Jason, you'll need to be registered here on Freenode before you can pm
[07:40] <Jason> i have to reg with nickserv...
[07:40] <intelikey> nick not registered....
[07:40] <Jason> this is easy
[07:40] <Jason> hold
[07:40] <intelikey> it's easier to set a root passwd than to reg a nick...
[07:40] <nickrud> bliss1_, for example, I've done mount /dev/hdd4 -text3 /mnt and then altered files under /mnt
[07:41] <onephatmind> haha
[07:41] <intelikey> why adding -t ?
[07:41] <bliss1_> dli: because in that partition when it boots I cannot reboot only shut down ACPI has some problem acccording to DBO i need to flash my BIOS
[07:41] <Jasey> ready onephatmind :)
[07:42] <onephatmind> i just replied
[07:42] <intelikey> sudo passwd        at the first password prompt type your password, then at the next two password prompts type the new root password....
[07:42] <nickrud> intelikey, not necessarly, depending on ones experiences
[07:42] <onephatmind> ok lets just do it here if nobody minds
[07:42] <bliss1_> mickrud: so to mount hda2 from a live cd its just  mount /dev.hda2 /mnt ?
[07:42] <dli> bliss1_, it's bios, why do you want to do anything with partition :(
[07:42] <Jasey> i see no reply
[07:42] <onephatmind> 1: get terminal
[07:42] <Jasey> ok
[07:42] <Jasey> its open
[07:42] <onephatmind> 2: type in "sudo -i" and it will ask you for a password
[07:42] <DBO> bliss1_, flashing BIOS should be relatively simple...
[07:42] <Jasey> please hold
[07:43] <onephatmind> 3: give it your own password
[07:43] <nickrud> bliss1_, mount -t<devtype> /dev/hda2 /mnt
[07:43] <Jasey> did that yes
[07:43] <onephatmind> 4: type in "passwd root"
[07:43] <Jasey> ok
[07:43] <onephatmind> it will ask you for a new password for root
[07:43] <Jasey> nope
[07:43] <Jasey> you may not view or modify information for root
[07:43] <onephatmind> sorry
[07:43] <Jasey> it says
[07:43] <onephatmind> type in "passwd root"
[07:44] <Jasey> that is what i did
[07:44] <bliss1_> DBO: thanks for that care to expand I looked all over the place yesterday but only found windows instuctions
[07:44] <onephatmind> skipped a step there
[07:44] <nickrud> bliss1_, <devtype> should be, more precisely, <filesystemtype> such as vfat, reiserfs, ext3, etc
[07:44] <onephatmind> and put it the new passwd twice
[07:44] <Jasey> "you may not view or modify information for root" or similar
[07:44] <Jasey> righto
[07:44] <Marineboy> root@dhcppc0:/home/ubuntu/Desktop# diff -u /dev/hdc /mnt/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[07:44] <Marineboy> diff: /dev/hdc: Input/output error
[07:44] <Marineboy> root@dhcppc0:/home/ubuntu/Desktop#
[07:44] <bliss1_> nickrud: thanks
[07:44] <nickrud> there oughta be a law, no recommending sudo passwd
[07:44] <DBO> bliss1_, ah, I see... usually you can flash from a bootable floppy disk
[07:44] <intelikey> cant diff the device node....  mount both Marineboy
[07:45] <Jasey> "you may not view or modify information for root" - thats all that is happening :(
[07:45] <Madpilot> nickrud, yeah, but people get stubborn :P it's their own computer, they're allowed to do sub-optimal things to the poor thing
[07:45] <mrkoje> hello
[07:45] <onephatmind> jason: start over. 1: terminal; 2: sudo passwd root; 3: type in your own passwd; 4: set new root passwd
[07:45] <DBO> Jasey, "sudo passwd root"
[07:45] <Jasey> alright
[07:45] <Jasey> ill start over
[07:45] <bliss1_> DBO: yes thats perhaps true but no floppy drive
[07:45] <Jasey> hold please
[07:45] <Toma-> anyone know a frontend to mencoder or ffmpeg?
[07:46] <Jasey> oki now its just dropping to a new line
[07:46] <onephatmind> Toma, kino if i'm getting the question right
[07:46] <Jasey> no input for the passwords, just waiting for another command :S
[07:46] <Toma-> onephatmind: yeh sort of :D thanks
[07:46] <nickrud> Madpilot, yeah, but this is not their computer, maybe ugbugtu could do an auto kick <my fascist hat is on>
[07:46] <onephatmind> Jasey, are you even serious?
[07:46] <Jasey> of course im serious
[07:46] <thoreauputic> Jasey: you realise of course that this is a complete waste of time, since sudo -i does effectively the same thing as su
[07:47] <Madpilot> nickrud, that's pretty seriously fascist! :P
[07:47] <Jasey> now im just...
[07:47] <Jasey> losht
[07:47] <DBO> Jasey, press <CTRL>+C
[07:47] <Jasey> ok
[07:47] <DBO> Jasey, are you still in a terminal?
[07:47] <Jasey> yes
[07:47] <Madpilot> thoreauputic, anytime someone suggests something more sensible to Jasey, he just starts talking about being "lost"...
[07:47] <DBO> Jasey, type (letter for letter, case sensitive) "sudo passwd root"
[07:47] <nickrud> Madpilot, I've been walking around Houston, it's rubbed off.
[07:47] <Jasey> i do
[07:47] <Jasey> it drops to the next line, waiting for a command
[07:47] <onephatmind> no quotation marks right;)?
[07:47] <Jasey> of course
[07:48] <DBO> does it say anything on that line?
[07:48] <Jasey> im not THAT stupid believe it or not
[07:48] <Jasey> lol
[07:48] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: ah, well ... None are so blind as those that will not see I guess
[07:48] <onephatmind> i believe
[07:48] <bliss1_> nickrud: once you have mounted on live cd then all the commands are like so mnt/dev/hda2/usr/src ? for example or is it mnt/usr/src?
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[07:48] <onephatmind> Jasey, u using gnome or kde?
[07:48] <Jasey> use your imagination
[07:48] <Jasey> gnome
[07:48] <onephatmind> open the user management utility
[07:48] <Jasey> hold on
[07:48] <DBO> Madpilot, I know we shouldnt be teaching to unlock root... but he DID ask...
[07:49] <onephatmind> dbo, hehe
[07:49] <Jasey> it asks for a password
[07:49] <onephatmind> put your passwd
[07:49] <DBO> Jasey, type in your password
[07:49] <onephatmind> yay
[07:49] <Jasey> i do :)
[07:49] <Jasey> the window disappears and nothing happens
[07:49] <onephatmind> damn
[07:49] <thoreauputic> Jasey: umm....
[07:49] <DBO> Jasey, open a terminal window and type "who"
[07:49] <Jasey> ok
[07:49] <Toma-> onephatmind: actually, kino seems to be a video editor, i need a video convertor. one that changes audio/video formats. cant even open an avi with kino. would cinelerra work?
[07:50] <nickrud> bliss1_, it depends on what the partition is, and where you mounted it. if you'll note, the example I gave: mount /dev/hdd4 -text3 /mnt says that the partition is on /mnt so for what you're looking for, it'd be /mnt/usr/src
[07:50] <Jasey> what am i looking for, dbo :)
[07:50] <thoreauputic> Jasey: is this some special version of Ubuntu that you hacked together yourself in your copious free time?
[07:50] <DBO> how many entries Jasey?
[07:50] <onephatmind> Toma, no clue;)
[07:50] <Jasey> no -_-
[07:50] <Madpilot> Jasey, what is the output of "who"?
[07:50] <Jasey> umm lemme count
[07:50] <Toma-> ok!
[07:50] <DBO> count!?
[07:50] <DBO> it should be like ... 2
[07:50] <Jasey> read whatever
[07:50] <Jasey> yeh 2
[07:50] <marc> hello everyone, HELP!  I need voice chat to work on my gaim.
[07:50] <p07r0457> hey, does ubuntu have any form of package manager that would make removing packages easy?  I really like ubuntu, but it has a lot of bloat on the default install I would like to do away with....  does apt provide this for me?
[07:50] <Jasey> im running back and forwards between computers
[07:50] <Jasey> lol
[07:50] <onephatmind> Toma, sorry; dont do that kind of thing
[07:51] <acai> hi, can someone show me some repositories with more software, possibly non-free software?
[07:51] <Toma-> onephatmind: ok thanx :D ill give synaptic a bash.
[07:51] <onephatmind> acai, aside from the ones ubuntu provides?
[07:51] <nickrud> p07r0457, you can strip it down to basically the kernel & libc (or pretty close)
[07:51] <acai> onephatmind: yes
[07:51] <DBO> Jasey, are you just messing with us?
[07:51] <Jasey> no :(
[07:51] <thoreauputic> !tell acai about repos
[07:51] <Jasey> ugh why bother getting help if you dont believe me :'(
[07:51] <onephatmind> acai, what are you trying to get?
[07:51] <Jasey> cos theres no other help channels, thats why -_-
[07:51] <p07r0457> nickrud, is there any easy way to do that?  I don't neccessarily want it that stripped, but a very clean gnome desktop with basic compiling tools would be nice
[07:51] <DBO> Jasey, go to your PC and press "CTRL + ALT + F1"
[07:52] <bliss1_> nickrud: i will use  mount -t ext3  /dev/hda2 /mnt to mount hda2
[07:52] <Jasey> ok
[07:52] <p07r0457> i prefer to install only what I want
[07:52] <nickrud> p07r0457, do a server install, you'll get pretty much the minimum
[07:52] <marc> toma-, hey man, long time no chat.  you think you could help me again(I know im always asking for help on here)
[07:52] <Jasey> ok done
[07:52] <DBO> Jasey, that will bring up a black screen with a login prompt, please log in
[07:52] <Jasey> now what
[07:52] <Toma-> marc: i can try
[07:52] <Jasey> ok
[07:52] <thoreauputic> p07r0457: then do a server install and add what you want
[07:52] <nickrud> p07r0457, it depends on what you call 'clean'
[07:52] <marc> toma- looking for a way to get voice chat on gaim
[07:52] <Jasey> righto
[07:52] <Jasey> now what
[07:52] <[C] hris> So is ther ea application that i can use asa  stop watch?
[07:52] <brandon_> sudo passwd root
[07:52] <Toma-> marc: hmmm what protocol? AIM? MSN?
[07:53] <p07r0457> what does a server install include besides the kernel and console?
[07:53] <DBO> Jasey, please type "sudo whoami"
[07:53] <marc> toma- for yahoo and msn
[07:53] <Jasey> ok
[07:53] <acai> onephatmind: i'm using kubuntu, and would like to get firefox, gaim, and several other packages
[07:53] <Jasey> nothing happens
[07:53] <p07r0457> and is there anything available besides iTunes running within Wine that supports iTMS?
[07:53] <DBO> Jasey, just a blank line?
[07:53] <acai> is it safe to add a debian repos?
[07:53] <nickrud> acai, NO
[07:53] <DBO> acai, no
[07:53] <thoreauputic> acai: no
[07:54] <Jasey> it shows another line awaiting a command
[07:54] <thoreauputic> hehe
[07:54] <nickrud> caps and first :)
[07:54] <p07r0457> lol
[07:54] <DBO> Jasey, if you type, do the letters show up?
[07:54] <Toma-> marc: i c. you might want to TRY gaim-vv but its rather not finished
[07:54] <Jasey> yes
[07:54] <marc> toma- your always my hero
[07:54] <acai> well, i suppose 3 NOs in the same second means it's a really bad idea
[07:54] <Madpilot> acai, it's a good way to break your Ubuntu, from all reports :P
[07:54] <GiGaHuRtZ> I inquired about this over in #ubuntu+1, but seems like no one is awake or cares....
[07:54] <thoreauputic> acai: you got it  in one :)
[07:54] <GiGaHuRtZ> Any chance of someone making some packages for this Sun Looking Glass project, www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/ , much like someone has done with the LG3D project based on slax, https://lg3d-livecd.dev.java.net/
[07:54] <onephatmind> acai, those things are all available in default repos
[07:54] <DBO> Jasey, press CTRL+C
[07:55] <Jasey> ok
[07:55] <DBO> Jasey, then type exit
[07:55] <Toma-> marc: haha. would probably be best to use google talk at the moment. seems the most supported
[07:55] <Jasey> ok
[07:55] <DBO> Jasey, the press CTRL+ALT+F7
[07:55] <pip> Is there any good tool for downloading?
[07:55] <brandon_> Jasey, to the left of the cursor, so y ou see a dollar sign or a pound sign?
[07:55] <acai> onephatmind: well, something is wrong with my sources list because i don't see gaim or firefox on the list
[07:55] <Jasey> umm
[07:55] <onephatmind> jasey, dbo: you guys got it?
[07:55] <pip> DBO, Hi
[07:55] <biyinzika> how do i access other Fat 32 disks with my data
[07:55] <burepe> I was just setting up xaw tv after installing my tv tuner and then the screen went black in xawtv. I can't change it back. I can hear the tv but there is no video. Any suggestions?
[07:55] <DBO> onephatmind, no, he seems to have broke sudo
[07:55] <Jasey> ok it wants me to log in again?
[07:56] <onephatmind> acai, open synaptic -> settings-> repos
[07:56] <Jasey> should i log in?
[07:56] <DBO> onephatmind, this is the one case where having root would actually be handy, because hes fairly screwed...
[07:56] <scanwinder> in ubuntu dapper, when i plug in my ipod shuffle, it wont mount with write access, how do i make it mount with write access?
[07:56] <baconbacon> pip: download what, files from the web?
[07:56] <bliss1_> DBO: so i cannot flash BIOS without a floppy?
[07:56] <onephatmind> acai, which ubuntu are you using?
[07:56] <el_alexluna> hi all
[07:56] <Jasey> i should just reinstall it..
[07:56] <pip> baconbacon, ye
[07:56] <DBO> Jasey, oops, go through <CTRL>+<ALT>+F# till you find the GUI
[07:56] <Jasey> lol
[07:56] <acai> onephatmind: kubuntu breezy
[07:56] <Jasey> ok
[07:56] <biyinzika> i need to access my other partition
[07:56] <Madpilot> Jasey, might not be a bad idea to just re-install, and read up on using sudo...
[07:56] <pip> baconbacon, in ubuntu
[07:56] <el_alexluna> how i change my shell?, i have bash, i want zsh
[07:56] <Jasey> ok ok
[07:56] <onephatmind> ok
[07:56] <baconbacon> pip: wget is a standard command line tool on all linux distributions, and powerful too
[07:56] <marc> k
[07:56] <pip> baconbacon, multithreaded
[07:56] <onephatmind> open the second repo from the top
[07:56] <baconbacon> hmm
[07:57] <intelikey> el_alexluna usermod
[07:57] <biyinzika> like Fat32 with my music how pliz?
[07:57] <onephatmind> by selecting it and clicking edit
[07:57] <intelikey> el_alexluna man usermod
[07:57] <Jasey> bak to graphical mode
[07:57] <DBO> Jasey, I dont know what you did to sudo, but you did it well =P
[07:57] <onephatmind> and then select all entries in the list
[07:57] <Jasey> it always happens :(
[07:57] <DBO> Jasey, every time you install?
[07:57] <Jasey> no
[07:57] <Jasey> not all the time
[07:57] <DBO> Jasey, how many times has this happened?
[07:57] <Jasey> but a lot of times
[07:57] <Jasey> lol
[07:57] <Jasey> oh i dunno, 3
[07:57] <Jasey> ive installed ubuntu maybe 8 times
[07:57] <DBO> Jasey... are you on a public network?
[07:58] <Jasey> nope
[07:58] <onephatmind> Jasey, do a full update
[07:58] <Jasey> how
[07:58] <DBO> onephatmind, he cant, no sudo
[07:58] <[C] hris> You can get root access to ubuntu, just boot grub into single user mode and do passwd
[07:58] <tritium> !tell Jasey about enter
[07:58] <Apostle^> man .flac is great.
[07:58] <pip> baconbacon, it is not graphic
[07:58] <DBO> oh yeah, single user mode, doy
[07:58] <Jasey> im not using as punctuation, tritium
[07:58] <brandon_> biyinzika, opena  terminal and type "fdisk -l"
[07:58] <tritium> Jasey: you're hitting enter way too frequently, and spamming the channel.
[07:58] <DBO> Jasey, reboot and select the second entry in grub
[07:59] <onephatmind> Jasey, restart and boot up in failsafe mode
[07:59] <Jasey> but if you want me to guess what im going to say next and put it into the same sentence as the one i just did 1 second before....
[07:59] <Jasey> ok
[07:59] <onephatmind> Jasey, it is one of the options in grub
[07:59] <Jasey> recovery mode eh
[07:59] <Jasey> hold on
[07:59] <onephatmind> haha
[07:59] <acai> hrm, well, i'm not sure what changed, but now i have a well-filled list of available packages!
[07:59] <onephatmind> DBO, sorry go ahead
[07:59] <p07r0457> is there a list that shows what is installed with a server install?  I'm checking ubuntu.com right now
[07:59] <DBO> onephatmind, meh, two heads are better then one
[07:59] <pip> baconbacon, hi ,do you know how to get in text mode as default
[07:59] <thoreauputic> Jasey: procedure: 1) think about what you are going to say 2) type it in a coherent sentance structure
[08:00] <onephatmind> acai, now in synaptic -> settings -> repos you have a lot more repos listed
[08:00] <tritium> Jasey: e.g., ok, recovery mode, eh?  hold on.  (rather than 3 separate lines)
[08:00] <thoreauputic> *sentence
[08:00] <onephatmind> acai, check all the checkboxes next to them
[08:00] <nickrud> tritium, that
[08:00] <Jasey> ((((( thoreauputic )))))) why dont i just become psychic
[08:00] <[C] hris> 3 heads
[08:00] <Jasey> i dont know what im going to say before i say it
[08:00] <DBO> thoreauputic, rather ironic you needed to correct that one =P
[08:00] <nickrud> nonix4, I cannot continue with this,
[08:00] <tritium> Jasey: no need, given it's your own mind and your own thoughts
[08:00] <baconbacon> pip: text mode, you mean console?
[08:00] <pip> baconbacon, yes
[08:00] <thoreauputic> DBO: typos happen - but yes ;)
[08:00] <Jasey> ok its up
[08:00] <pip> baconbacon, when ubuntu stats
[08:01] <pip> when ubuntu starts
[08:01] <onephatmind> Jasey, get terminal
[08:01] <DBO> ok guys, time to lighten up on Jasey, he gets the idea, fewer, but longer sentences
[08:01] <Jasey> how
 i dont know what im going to say before i say it  <---- then trying leaving your hands off the keyboard.  these ops arent telling you that, for you to argue with them.
[08:01] <Jasey> ugh
[08:01] <baconbacon> Someone help pip about starting ubuntu in console only? i don't remember how
[08:01] <Jasey> just forget it
[08:01] <onephatmind> Jasey, wait wait one more try;)
[08:01] <fiendskull9> baconbacon, what do you mean starting ubuntu?
[08:02] <DBO> intelikey... that wasnt very nice...
[08:02] <brandon_> biyinzika, locate the fat32 partitions. make a directory to mount each of them, eg "sudo mkdir /media/windows" use the identifier to mount them, eg "hda1" would be "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/nameofdirectory"
[08:02] <onephatmind> Jasey, ctrl + alt + f1
[08:02] <[C] hris> i dont acutually see any ops
[08:02] <DBO> onephatmind, he left...
[08:02] <bliss1_> nickrud: but how do you save all the data in that hda2 before you umount hda2? you cannot do shutdown -r now from a live cd?
[08:02] <onephatmind> oh hehe
[08:02] <intelikey> DBO he had been told umpteen times.....
[08:02] <onephatmind> shoot
[08:02] <nickrud> pip, when you boot, it goes to the graphical login, you want to bypass that?
[08:02] <acai> OMG! there's a package containing an anarchist faq! that's so awesome
[08:02] <fiendskull9> pip, hey man, what do you need help with?
[08:02] <Apostle^> what the heck is umpteen
[08:02] <thoreauputic> [C] hris: we hide ;)
[08:02] <nickrud> bliss1_, umount /dev/hda2 , that will write all data to that partition
[08:03] <onephatmind> i'd dump ubuntu and go back to my fine functioning XP if i was him at this point
[08:03] <pip> fiendskull9, get in text mode only
[08:03] <skwashd> acai, it gets installed on all of my servers by default :)
[08:03] <pip> fiendskull9, when ubuntu starts
[08:03] <skwashd> never read it tho
[08:03] <bliss1_> nickrud: thanks finished your accounting ?
[08:03] <onephatmind> has anybody been using ubuntu in production yet>
[08:03] <nickrud> bliss1_, that is a never ending task, money in, money out.
[08:03] <acai> skwashd: good idea. i have news.infoshop.org as my home page
[08:03] <nickrud> onephatmind, me
[08:04] <[C] hris> production?
[08:04] <skwashd> onephatmind, on about 30 boxes ... servers, laptops and desktops
[08:04] <onephatmind> i mean heavy traffic
[08:04] <onephatmind> clusters
[08:04] <pip> nickrud, Yes
[08:04] <acai> skwashd: you should give it a read.
[08:04] <thoreauputic> DBO: there is sometimes a fine line between cluelessness and trolling - not always discernible
[08:04] <bliss1_> DBO: so cannot flash BIOS without floppy?
[08:04] <pip> nickrud, how to get in textmode only whtn boot
[08:04] <intelikey> onephatmind not a chance of that,  he's hooked.  it's too late to go back, even though it makes him so mad he can't see streight, he knows he's gonna stick it out and learn hou to use linux....
[08:04] <AMDXP> onephatmind: i hope to set up a small school with ubuntu or edbuntu boxes
[08:05] <onephatmind> i am just trying to break the hell out of RHEL
[08:05] <skwashd> onephatmind, clusters != production ... i have a cluster which will never be in production ... it is a toy ... and it doesn't run ubuntu atm
[08:05] <nickrud> pip, ok, there's only one thing you need to do: sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm
[08:05] <brandon_> onephatmind: why?
[08:05] <DBO> thoreauputic, oh well... I dont think he was trolling... trolls tend to become a bit... overzealous, he just gave up
[08:05] <nickrud> pip, when you reboot, you will boot into a terminal login.
[08:05] <onephatmind> too much hassle; dislike red hat at this point
[08:05] <onephatmind> even though i started with it
[08:05] <thoreauputic> DBO: I'm inclined to agree - but we can't hold his hand forever
[08:06] <onephatmind> too bulky
[08:06] <pip> nickrud, OK! how can I return to Graphic mode ?
[08:06] <obscurite> anyone have any idea why my NFS mounts sort of timeout every couple of minutes? if i access them they pause for a few secs like they're re-connecting and then are fine again until they idle out again
[08:06] <onephatmind> but the enterprise backing is nice to have
[08:06] <obscurite> this is between two breezy boxes
[08:06] <nickrud> pip, sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults
[08:06] <obscurite> actually my bad, one breezy nfs-kernel-server box, and one other linux box
[08:06] <nickrud> pip, on reboot after that, you boot into graphical login
[08:06] <ejofee> a link to the latest gaim 2.0 beta for ubuntu?
[08:07] <onephatmind> nickrud, may i ask if you are happy with it>
[08:07] <Apostle^> ejofee: you gotta compile from source.
[08:07] <ejofee> Apostle^: what's wrong with ubuntu?
[08:07] <DBO> ejofee, I have a deb... but Im not sure how happy people would be if I distributed it
[08:07] <Apostle^> ejofee: ?
[08:07] <DBO> it works though
[08:07] <ejofee> Apostle^: i can't find any 2.0 (any beta at all) for ubuntu
[08:07] <Apostle^> DBO: did you compile that .deb your self ?
[08:07] <pip> nickrud, Many thanks
[08:07] <nickrud> onephatmind, I ran debian unstable for about 4 years; ubuntu for the last year. I'm satisfied
[08:07] <DBO> Apostle^, yep =)
[08:07] <baconbacon> pip: if you want to get graphic mode only once, you login then type startx in console
[08:07] <ejofee> DBO: who would become unhappy and why?
[08:08] <Apostle^> DBO: then don't distribute that
[08:08] <Apostle^> because it could break somone elses system.
[08:08] <Toma-> DBO: feel free. why wouldnt anyone want that to happen? its getting people to believe you as a trusted source thats the problem
[08:08] <DBO> because it could break a system
[08:08] <nickrud> onephatmind, never more than 3 machines,  mind you
[08:08] <[C] hris> Anyone here succesfully installed pitfdll on a ubuntu system
[08:08] <onephatmind> nickrud, so its ready then..
[08:08] <ejofee> Apostle^: hello?
[08:08] <Apostle^> ejofee: ?
[08:09] <pip> nickrud, by the way ,is there any great tool for downloading fils from Internet with multithreaed skill ?
[08:09] <ejofee> Apostle^: please answer my frustration
[08:09] <Apostle^> ejofee: download the source and compile it
[08:09] <onephatmind> nickrud, i'm just a little afraid and there's no time to test extensively; have to launch a new project right away
[08:09] <Apostle^> ejofee: thats what i did .
[08:09] <onephatmind> dont really want to use RH
[08:09] <nickrud> onephatmind, for my purposes yes. Other peoples purposes, yes (from watching here). You choose your own poinsons
[08:09] <ejofee> Apostle^: no
[08:09] <DBO> ejofee, you will need to compile it from source, there are walkthroughs for how to do it via google
[08:09] <ejofee> Apostle^: you don't get it
[08:09] <Toma-> DBO: just make sure the people installing know that
[08:09] <Apostle^> ?
[08:09] <nickrud> onephatmind, for production, only go with what you trust
[08:09] <ejofee> Apostle^: i don't want to use gaim 2.0
[08:09] <intelikey> pip wget maybe
[08:09] <ejofee> Apostle^: i want to understand what's wrong with ubuntu
[08:09] <ejofee> Apostle^: i thought it was cool
[08:09] <Apostle^> ejofee: what the hell are you talking about
[08:10] <ejofee> Apostle^: and i still tend to think that
[08:10] <pip> intelikey, how do you find of kget ?
[08:10] <ejofee> Apostle^: it's absolutely abnormal to see it systematically ignore all betas from gaim
[08:10] <nickrud> pip, I've used downloader for X (d4x) with a firefox extension that escapes me at the moment
[08:10] <ejofee> Apostle^: why do you behave as though this isn't ridiculous?
[08:10] <babo> Hi guys, what's the buffered and and non buffered I\O system calls again ? Does anyone know ?
[08:10] <pip> nickrud, good ?
[08:10] <animato> hello, i just installed breezy, how do i install flash for firefox? i tried using the docs, but it didn't work
[08:10] <intelikey> pip find ?    find a package     or find a file ?
[08:10] <DBO> ejofee, its a beta, not ready for use by the general public
[08:10] <ejofee> Apostle^: or is this your (passive-aggressive) way to protest against this yourself?
[08:11] <nickrud> onephatmind, I cannot put enough emphasis on 'trust'
[08:11] <Apostle^> ejofee: stop trolling no one cares
[08:11] <pip> intelikey, file
[08:11] <nickrud> pip, yeah, worked fine
[08:11] <tritium> ejofee: be careful, please
[08:11] <ejofee> DBO: i know. but it's more stable than many other apps
[08:11] <DBO> thoreauputic, see, now THATS trolling
[08:11] <pip> nickrud, OK
[08:11] <ejofee> tritium: what do you mean?
[08:11] <onephatmind> nickrud, whats your final judgement? do you have that trust with ubuntu?
[08:11] <thoreauputic> ejofee: ubuntu only updates for security and major bugs
[08:11] <ejofee> tritium: careful about what?
[08:11] <[C] hris> Arg! GStream not installed. BUT IT IS! help pitfdll being retarde
[08:11] <Apostle^> ejofee: i use 2.0 beta 3 and it runs fine, i compiled it from source, do the same or go away.
[08:11] <tritium> ejofee: I mean be more respecful and courteous
[08:11] <tritium> respectful even
[08:11] <thoreauputic> !coc
[08:11] <ubotu> somebody said coc was the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[08:12] <nickrud> onephatmind, I have 5 years experience to draw on, so yes. Your experience is what you need to draw upon
[08:12] <Madpilot> !ircrules
[08:12] <intelikey> pip sudo find /usr -name free
[08:12] <ubotu> you are invited to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcRules
[08:12] <animato> ?
[08:12] <ejofee> tritium: i most certainly do not intend to be otherwise. please tell me, what is that seemed to be rude?
[08:12] <intelikey> pip man find  for all the info on that
[08:12] <Apostle^> this guy is going to be a collosal pain. i feel it coming
[08:12] <intelikey> man info
[08:12] <intelikey> info man
[08:12] <animato> how do i install flash for firefox, please? i've looked everywhere
[08:12] <nickrud> onephatmind, if your skills say use windows, use it.
[08:12] <tritium> ejofee: your comment to Apostle^ about being passive-aggressive.  Now please, drop the subject.
[08:13] <onephatmind> nickrud, that was never in the picture; especially for production; i dont even know how to
[08:13] <thoreauputic> ejofee: it isn't usual to blame the distro for things that are clear from its policy statements, either
[08:13] <Apostle^> he is mad because he doesn't know how to install from source.
[08:13] <[C] hris> dlol
[08:13] <Apostle^> i told him what to do, just ignore him and hopefully he will go away
[08:13] <Madpilot> skwashd, the /whois isn't funny here, either
[08:13] <pip> intelikey, what does sudo  find /usr -name free do ?
[08:13] <Ohzie> Hey
[08:13] <[C] hris> i recomemend checkinstall for anyone installing source code
[08:14] <ejofee> thoreauputic: all other important distros have at least one gaim beta, either it be official or unofficial. ubuntu has none. this is what i don't understand.
[08:14] <Apostle^> [C] hris: i use it :-)
[08:14] <animato> !flash
[08:14] <Ohzie> Does anyone know how to force an unmount of a cd, even if it's busy?
[08:14] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:14] <onephatmind> nickrud, i just wanted to know about how ubuntu performs in production
[08:14] <nickrud> onephatmind, then there is a lot of collective experience here. Define your needs, and someone should be able to give you pointers for your specific needs.
[08:14] <intelikey> pip type it and see.
[08:14] <Apostle^> ubotu: tell ejofee about source
[08:14] <[C] hris> Apostle^,  You ever tried to install Pitfdll?
[08:14] <ejofee> tritium: she told me "compile one yourself". does it sound polite?
[08:14] <skwashd> Madpilot, it is a political statement ... protected under the US first amendment
[08:14] <thoreauputic> ejofee: as I said, Ubuntu updates every 6 months on average - between those times no new software is added
[08:14] <Apostle^> [C] hris: never heard of it, what is it ?
[08:14] <Apostle^> ejofee: i'm a she now?
[08:15] <pip> I have done,the result is : /usr/bin/free
[08:15] <ejofee> thoreauputic: i was hoping i could at least find something unofficial
[08:15] <thoreauputic> *shrug*
[08:15] <Apostle^> ejofee: their are no packages for it, period make your own...
[08:15] <[C] hris> Its suppost to be support for windows media files like .wma for totem andw hat not
[08:15] <intelikey> pip there you go it found free for you.
[08:15] <Apostle^> [C] hris: i see, i use .flac for all my audio
[08:15] <DBO> ejofee, I can give you a deb package for it, but I make no promises that it wont fubar your system...
[08:15] <[C] hris> Video
[08:15] <Apostle^> [C] hris: .flac or 320kbs mp3
[08:15] <[C] hris> this is video
[08:16] <Apostle^> oh.....
[08:16] <Apostle^> are you using totem-xine ?
[08:16] <pip> intelikey, does it have something to do with my question ?
[08:16] <ejofee> DBO: i will try to compile it myself, but thank you
[08:16] <intelikey> pip you asked how to find files....  sudo find /usr -name libgthread
[08:16] <[C] hris> http://ronald.bitfreak.net/pitfdll.php
[08:16] <ejofee> Apostle^: why would i assume you are a he?
[08:16] <animato> when i try to install flash using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, it says it can't find that package, and my multiiverse repos are enabled
[08:16] <animato> how can i install it?
[08:16] <[C] hris> Nope
[08:17] <DBO> animato, have you enables universe repos?
[08:17] <Apostle^> ejofee: you must be the most annoying person i have ever met
[08:17] <skwashd> animato, got universe enabled ?
[08:17] <animato> yes
[08:17] <animato> still can't find it
[08:17] <onephatmind> nickrud, 1 master mysql server; 2 full slaves; 1 search index slave; 3 boxes with code and static cache; apache2, mysql5, php5 with precompiled modules
[08:17] <pip> intelikey, I asked if there is any good tool for downloading files from internet
[08:17] <Madpilot> animato, have you hit Reload in Synaptic, or run "sudo apt-get update" - either will force a reload of your sources.lsit
[08:17] <Apostle^> [C] hris: so you are not using totem-xine? i recommend it, plays all video formats i believe
[08:17] <thoreauputic> Apostle^: ejofee please stop it or you will both be gagged
[08:17] <intelikey> pip yes wget
[08:17] <ejofee> Apostle^: you too. what kind of a person would answer "compile one yourself"? what kind of a friendly advice is this?
[08:17] <Apostle^> thoreauputic: if you can't see who the troll is shame on you sir.
[08:17] <skwashd> animato, and multiverse
[08:17] <pip> intelikey, how to use it?
[08:17] <ejofee> thoreauputic: ok
[08:17] <[C] hris> Apostle^, here's the thing, synaptic says its installed
[08:17] <onephatmind> nickrud, wanted to move the 3 code machines to ubuntu
[08:18] <animato> i ddi
[08:18] <Apostle^> [C] hris: hmm...
[08:18] <animato> did
[08:18] <intelikey> pip man intor
[08:18] <animato> still no luck
[08:18] <Apostle^> [C] hris: hit about on totem
[08:18] <thoreauputic> if you want to argue, please do it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:18] <intelikey> errr man intro    <--- pip
[08:18] <pip> intelikey, no graphic?
[08:18] <animato> i've ticked everything on the list
[08:18] <animato> stil no luck
[08:18] <PwcrLinux> Oh, I wondering I have xgine player, I checked on my DVD, only show a subtitles, where's the closed captions settings?
[08:18] <skwashd> animato, refreshed ?
[08:18] <animato> yes
[08:18] <animato> maybe they changed the package's name?
[08:18] <skwashd> animato, try the cli?
[08:18] <intelikey> pip any browser can dl files. if you want gui use a browser
[08:19] <animato> cli?
[08:19] <skwashd> apt-get update; apt-get install <package>
[08:19] <onephatmind> nickrud, X and desktop is not a concern
[08:19] <skwashd> command line interface
[08:19] <[C] hris> Apostle^, Totem 1.2.0 movie player using xine-lib version 1.0.1
[08:19] <skwashd> sorry
[08:19] <nickrud> onephatmind, it may be heresy here, but I'd probably run debian sarge boxes for that. I'm conservative. But I'll also say that there are people here who's opinions on this subject should have far more weight than mine
[08:19] <Apostle^> [C] hris: and you cant play .wma ?
[08:19] <skwashd> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install <package>
[08:19] <[C] hris> nope
[08:19] <skwashd> anway ... this box needs a reboot ... cyaz
[08:19] <Apostle^> [C] hris: sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[08:19] <[C] hris> well its either mvp
[08:19] <animato> oh there!
[08:20] <intelikey> pip if you are looking for an ftp cliend  i sujest  gftp
[08:20] <[C] hris> wmv files sorry
[08:20] <animato> thank you ^_^
[08:20] <Apostle^> ughhh amarok keeps showing songs a million times.
[08:20] <animato> it found it
[08:20] <[C] hris> cant play .wmv
[08:20] <[C] hris> Windows Media Video
[08:20] <intelikey> pip or cli  ncftp is nice
[08:20] <onephatmind> Apostle, w32codecs do not include wma or wmv do they?
[08:20] <thoreauputic> !tell [C] hris about restricted
[08:20] <Apostle^> onephatmind: i'm not sure.  i think they might...
[08:20] <pip> intelikey, any tool supports breakpoint
[08:21] <pip> intelikey, skill ?
[08:21] <ejofee> thoreauputic, tritium: however, please be the judge of it: am i crazy to feel "compile it yourself" is unfriendly?
[08:21] <thoreauputic> onephatmind: yes, you can play wmv and wma with the w32codecs
[08:21] <nickrud> onephatmind, they do, except for some of the newer versions, and the drm encoded stuff.
[08:21] <intelikey> i'm not familear with breakpoint pip
[08:21] <Toma-> anyone know how to make mencoder encode to IMA-ADPCM?
[08:21] <bliss1_> nickrud: what are the advantages and distadvantages of working from a live cd into a particular hda on your system
[08:21] <Ohzie> Can somebody with a relatively default install just do something like cat /etc/fstab for me and pm me the line for /media/cdrecorder please? :)
[08:21] <DBO> ejofee, that is truely the only real option available, its not a matter of friendly or not, its just the truth...
[08:21] <thoreauputic> ejofee:  -->> #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:21] <ejofee> DBO: agreed
[08:22] <nickrud> bliss1_, advantage? you can :) disadvantage? live cd's take forever to boot
[08:22] <DBO> sorry thoreauputic, I shouldnt have jumped in
[08:22] <onephatmind> i had no luck with w32codecs but its good to know that wm* is included
[08:22] <thoreauputic> DBO: no worries
[08:22] <intelikey> Ohzie the device will very.
[08:22] <pip> intelikey, If I want to shutdown my computer when it is downloading sth. and go on tomorrow ,is there any tool support breakpoint skill?
[08:22] <[C] hris> thanks thoreauputic
[08:22] <scanwinder> in ubuntu dapper, my flash drives wont mount with write access when i plug them in, how do i fix this?i tried putting "/dev/sdb1       /media/ipod     auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0" in fstab but it didnt fix it
[08:23] <onephatmind> scanwinder, can you write in root?
[08:23] <Apostle^> scanwinder: are they ipod's or flash drives..
[08:23] <intelikey> pip  breakpoint skill?    you mean continuing the dl... yes   wget.
[08:23] <tritium> ejofee: please sort it out.  I'm off to bed.
[08:23] <scanwinder> Apostle^: nope
[08:23] <Apostle^> scanwinder: hich one
[08:23] <Apostle^> which*
[08:23] <scanwinder> oops i mean onephatmind: no
[08:23] <baconbacon> pip: wget --continue
[08:23] <pip> intelikey, yes ,ok,wget is great I think
[08:23] <scanwinder> Apostle^: same prob with ipod and flash drive
[08:23] <intelikey> or -c
[08:24] <intelikey> pip  yes i think it is too.   man wget
[08:24] <Apostle^> scanwinder: plug one in and then type dmesg note what it says like /dev/sdh then you would mount /dev/sdh2
[08:24] <intelikey> pip    man   is your friend.
[08:24] <pip> intelikey, thank you!
[08:24] <intelikey> np
[08:24] <burepe> I lost my tvtuner video signal, the sound is fine. Is this a driver problem? The video just disappeared
[08:24] <nickrud> tritium, good night :)
[08:24] <bliss1_> nickrud: when I installed a debain OS i was told to type linux26 at install so the kernel 2.6 would be installed but is it possible to be more specific and install for example 2.6  x. x. ?
[08:25] <scanwinder> Apostle^: i already know the device names, im able 2 mount them but just no write access
[08:25] <tritium> good night nickrud, all :)
[08:25] <intelikey> pip anything else before i leave for the day ?
[08:25] <Ohzie> Again, can somebody with a relatively default install just do something like cat /etc/fstab for me and pm me the line for /media/cdrecorder please? I know the device varies. That's okay. I just need the other stuff,
[08:25] <Apostle^> scanwinder: pastebin your /etc/fstab please
[08:25] <scanwinder> ok
[08:25] <onephatmind> i am getting "composite manager" crashes back and forth in KDE; what is that?
[08:25] <pip> intelikey, No thanks ,good luck : )
[08:25] <nickrud> bliss1_, for the install, no. do the linux26. You can upgrade to the latest kernel after the install is completed.
[08:26] <bliss1_> nickrud: ok thanks
[08:26] <onephatmind> bliss1 apt-get install package=version.number
[08:26] <nickrud> bliss1_, the linux26 installes the kernel that's available on the cd, iirc
[08:26] <brownie17> how do i find the name of my disk drive. i know it is cdrom0, but i wanna know in the format of e.g. hdc, or hda.
[08:26] <Apostle^> brownie17: is it mounted now?
[08:26] <Apostle^> brownie17: if so type mount
[08:26] <brownie17> Apostle^, its mounted
[08:26] <bliss1_> nickrud: ok
[08:26] <scanwinder> Apostle^: http://pastebin.com/664466
[08:26] <intelikey>  /dev/hdb /media/cdrecorder iso9660,udf defaults 0 0   <---- ohzie
[08:27] <Apostle^> scanwinder: okay give me a minute pc's a little slow converting stuff to .flac
[08:27] <Ohzie> Thank you, baconbacon, intelikey
[08:27] <scanwinder> Apostle^: ok
[08:27] <PwcrLinux> Oh, I wondering I have xgine player, I checked on my DVD, only show a subtitles, where's the closed captions settings?
[08:27] <onephatmind> can i try and ask a SUSE + apt question?
[08:27] <Apostle^> scanwinder: why do you have 7 floppy references in fstab ?
[08:27] <eggzeck> Has anyone ever used the gdmthemetester?
[08:28] <scanwinder> Apostle^: i was like that from the start
[08:28] <Apostle^> scanwinder: odd, do you have a floppy drive?
[08:28] <scanwinder> Apostle^: the dapper installation did it i guess
[08:28] <scanwinder> Apostle^: only one floppy drive
[08:28] <Apostle^> scanwinder: i have never seen that problem as i don't have a floppy drive.
[08:28] <baconbacon> i "lost" my floppy drive upgrading to dapper but im too lazy to fix it
[08:28] <Apostle^> scanwinder: unplug a drive and plug it back in and then wait a few seconds and type dmesg and pastebin it for me
[08:29] <scanwinder> Apostle^: ok
[08:29] <mDot_lappy> i don't have a floppy drive, but flight 5 installed 7 via fstab
[08:29] <Apostle^> scanwinder: wait till like /dev/sdb or something like that shows up
[08:29] <brownie17> Apostle^, i have the mount thinger, but i thought it was cdrom0, and cdrom0 is not showing up in here
[08:29] <mDot_lappy> they can be commented out there
[08:29] <bliss1_> nickrud: the reason I  asked is that I was hoping a kernel 2.6 upgrade might solve my ACPI problem
[08:29] <Apostle^> brownie17: is /dev/hda or /dev/hdb showing up? also look at /etc/fstab
[08:30] <onephatmind> bliss1, do a full update
[08:30] <DBO> bliss1_, why havent you upgraded to 2.6 yet?
[08:30] <Apostle^> scanwinder: something like this works for an ipod, with the appropriate device of course /dev/sdd2      /media/ipod     vfat    rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=000,iocharset=utf8
[08:30] <brownie17> Apostle^, hdb1 and hda1 are showing up, plus hdd is also
[08:30] <nickrud> bliss1_, luckily I've either just said to heck with apm/acpi and disabled it, or more recently ignored it, since it didn't interfere with my anchor/desktop
[08:30] <Apostle^> brownie17: okay, can you cd /media/cdrom ?
[08:31] <nickrud> bliss1_, in other words, I know acpi like I know trancendental mathematics
[08:31] <DBO> nickrud, call me silly, but wouldnt acpi be a little more important to a laptop user?
[08:31] <brownie17> Apostle^, yes.
[08:31] <bliss1_> DBO:o sorry i have two debians os  one is unbuntu the other is sarge you suggested yesterday to flash BIOS I was thinking of a newer version of 2.6 on my sarge os
[08:31] <kkpi16> #yogyakarta
[08:32] <nickrud> DBO, um, didn't my polemics imply that :)
[08:32] <Apostle^> brownie17: do the cd's files show up?
[08:32] <baconbacon> its important for sleep, but except this i could apt-get remove acpi anytime
[08:32] <bliss1_> nickrud: its a labtop/
[08:32] <brownie17> Apostle^, no
[08:32] <DBO> nickrud, excuse me, of course it did
[08:32] <DBO> =)
[08:32] <scanwinder> Apostle^: http://pastebin.com/664471 about line 55 it happened
[08:32] <kkpi16> alo
[08:33] <Apostle^> scanwinder: okay one moment
[08:34] <nickrud> one measure of acpi's successful development from my perspective, is I get to ignore it :)
[08:34] <bliss1_> DBO: the other thing I could do that might work its only a thought is to move sarge to hda1 and ubuntu to hda2 then ACPI prob may go away may not
[08:35] <Apostle^> scanwinder: http://pastebin.com/664473
[08:35] <Madpilot> nickrud, that's a good test of any background thing :P
[08:35] <Apostle^> scanwinder: add that to /etc/fstab and save it
[08:35] <Apostle^> scanwinder: then in a term type sudo mount /dev/sdb2
[08:35] <DBO> bliss1_, I do not think that will help
[08:35] <bliss1_> DBO: yep I thought so
[08:35] <DBO> bliss1_, I still believe your best option is a BIOS flash... but how to do... I do not know, I guess you could try a windows live boot with BartPE
[08:35] <nickrud> Madpilot, true. Many things have gotten to the point where I get to ignore them, it's all good :)
[08:36] <mzinz> For some reason I'm banned from #ubuntu-offtopic... I don't even recall ever being in that channel.. anyone know why or how i can get unbanned?
[08:36] <bliss1_> DBO: thats an idea
[08:36] <bliss1_> DBO: thanks
[08:36] <DBO> woohoo, I said something useful
[08:37] <bliss1_> DBO: BartPE I am not familiar with I will google :)
[08:37] <DBO> go for it
[08:37] <scanwinder> Apostle^: still no write access
[08:37] <Apostle^> scanwinder: okay type sudo chmod 777 /media/ipod
[08:38] <Apostle^> scanwinder: then type sudo chown yourusernamehere /media/ipod
[08:38] <Juhaz> mzinz, there seems to be an overzealous ban on *!*@*centurytel.net
[08:38] <mzinz> Juhaz, lol.
[08:38] <gyro_54> Can anyone tell me if Ubuntu /Alsa can handle sound at 24/192
[08:38] <mzinz> Juhaz, hmm..
[08:38] <nickrud> DBO, you are modest :)
[08:38] <mzinz> Juhaz, is it possible to leave the masked ban and add an individual one?
[08:38] <scanwinder> Apostle^: chmod: changing permissions of `/media/ipod': Read-only file system
[08:39] <mzinz> Juhaz, to the 'unban' list
[08:39] <Apostle^> scanwinder: you using sudo ?
[08:39] <scanwinder> Apostle^: and it still wouldnt let me write
[08:39] <onephatmind> sorry, how do i get rid of the one-click-run thing in KDE?
[08:39] <DBO> nickrud, modest, honest, your fraility is my reality
[08:39] <scanwinder> Apostle^: yep using sudo
[08:39] <Apostle^> scanwinder: type sudo su and then try those commands again
[08:39] <Hobbsee> mzinz: Juhaz this is odd, do we know why?
[08:39] <cyberboy> Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[08:39] <cyberboy> what does this mean
[08:39] <Madpilot> mzinz, try now - there was a very broad ban set
[08:39] <scanwinder> Apostle^: how do i make su work again? i forgot
[08:39] <saik0> !tell DBO about offtopic
[08:40] <Apostle^> scanwinder: just type sudo su
[08:40] <Apostle^> scanwinder: and try those commands again
[08:40] <DBO> love you too saik0
[08:40] <nickrud> rflol
[08:40] <saik0> =p
[08:40] <mzinz> Madpilot, Thanks works, thanks juhaz and hobbsee :)
[08:40] <PwcrLinux> lol
[08:40] <PwcrLinux> I guess no one know about gxine :(
[08:40] <cyberboy> damnit
[08:40] <cyberboy> i want my gkrellm to work
[08:40] <cyberboy> it doesnt find the fucking package
[08:41] <PwcrLinux> !language
[08:41] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[08:41] <DBO> !language
[08:41] <ejofee> Apostle^: sorry anyway. i must have overreacted. i thought you were intolerant with my not knowing how to compile stuff in gnu/linux.
[08:41] <saik0> !tell cyberboy about language
[08:41] <scanwinder> Apostle^: same error and, still no write access
[08:41] <saik0> you guys are fast
[08:41] <Apostle^> scanwinder: whats the error?
[08:41] <gyro_54> Can anyone tell me if Ubuntu /Alsa can handle sound at 24/192
[08:41] <DBO> gyro_54, yes
[08:41] <bliss1_> DBO: there all exe programs for windows no pure cd
[08:41] <Apostle^> gyro_54: 192kbits ?
[08:41] <scanwinder> Apostle^: wait its not really an error, it just says "chmod: changing permissions of `/media/ipod': Read-only file system"
[08:42] <Apostle^> scanwinder: did you add the fstab command i gave you and mount it?
[08:42] <gyro_54> yes a creative audigy 2 zs can it operate OK?
[08:42] <DBO> bliss1_, yeah, that would present a problem, since he cant distribute the ISO
[08:42] <Apostle^> gyro_54: i'm listening to a .flac with like 955kbs right now :-P
[08:42] <DBO> gyro_54, using one right now
[08:42] <eggzeck> Does anyone know how to test a gdm theme using 'gdmthemetester xdmcp <pathtotheme>' at a specific resolution (such as 1024x768)?
[08:42] <gyro_54> fantastic thanks for your help
[08:42] <bliss1_> DBO: thats it wel thanks you did try
[08:43] <scanwinder> Apostle^: yep
[08:43] <Apostle^> scanwinder: hmm i don't know what the problem is ....
[08:43] <DBO> bliss1_, do you perhaps have an external hard drive?
[08:43] <Apostle^> scanwinder: are you the only user on the computer, like single account ?
[08:43] <scanwinder> Apostle^: yes
[08:43] <bliss1_> DBO; would not harm to inveast in a externel floppy drive
[08:43] <cyberboy> crappy ass
[08:43] <bliss1_> invest
[08:44] <PwcrLinux> hey
[08:44] <DBO> bliss1_, you probably wont be able to boot from it...
[08:44] <Apostle^> scanwinder: pastebin for me sudo ls -l /media/ipo
[08:44] <Apostle^> d
[08:44] <proton_ghost> so what's up
[08:44] <gyro_54> where is the best place to go to change from Ubuntu to Kabuntu and is it worth it?
[08:44] <bliss1_> DBO: umm ye maybe not
[08:44] <ejofee> Apostle^: did you transform the source into a deb?
[08:44] <Apostle^> ejofee: yes. using checkinstall
[08:44] <Apostle^> ejofee: sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[08:44] <proton_ghost> you can apt-get kde in ubuntu
[08:45] <Apostle^> ejofee: and in the source dir ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall
[08:45] <DBO> gyro_54, KDE vs GNOME is just personal preference, if you want to change you can do it with "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[08:45] <saik0> gyro_54, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:45] <steve> hi, could someone help me share my folder on samba?
[08:45] <bliss1_> flash BIOS from a live cd? NO just hoping
[08:45] <ejofee> Apostle^: wow, is it that trivial?
[08:45] <Apostle^> in our short years, we come a long way
[08:45] <DBO> gyro_54, that will NOT remove GNOME, just give you the option to use one or the other
[08:45] <scanwinder> Apostle^: http://pastebin.com/664483
[08:45] <gyro_54> Does it break the Gnome install or can you go back?
[08:45] <steve> or rather, browse a shared folder in nautilus
[08:45] <Apostle^> in our short film a love disgrace
[08:45] <skp> neone able to configure a dual screen with ATI X1800 or ne ATI card
[08:45] <mzinz> if I install KDE is it possible to switch between the two with a log off/on?
[08:45] <lowroad> hey everyone, i seem to have accidentely removed the bar on my menu that show's minimized programs, like when i close gaim, does anyone know how to get it back?
[08:45] <saik0> gyro_54, they both coexist
[08:45] <DBO> gyro_54, does not break it
[08:45] <proton_ghost> It doesn't break GNOME but it did do some wierd visual things when booting up
[08:45] <gyro_54> thanks
[08:46] <DBO> steve, how can we help you?
[08:46] <Iceman_> on anyone done a custom distro ...
[08:46] <skp> lowroad add to panel window list
[08:46] <Apostle^> scanwinder: it appears it isn't mounted, what does mount say ?
[08:46] <steve> DBO, I've shared a folder under nautilus, but I can't browse it.  Nautilus says smb:/// is not available... :(
[08:46] <DBO> steve, are you on a different PC than the one your shared it on?
[08:47] <Madpilot> lowroad, right-click on the panel where it used to be, choose Add To Panel, add the Window List back
[08:47] <bliss1_> DBO: thanks catch you later
[08:47] <scanwinder> Apostle^: http://pastebin.com/664486
[08:47] <steve> DBO, I can be.  but I thought I'd test it locally first.
[08:47] <bliss1_> nickrud: see you
[08:47] <DBO> steve, do you know how to use pastebin? can you paste the contents of /etc/samba/smb.conf to it?
[08:47] <nickrud> bliss1_, good night. I'll be right behind you, I thin
[08:47] <lowroad> skp, Madpilot it's not the window list, i mean the programs that i've closed but are running in the background, like when you press the X on Gaim, or so i can see nm-applet and gdesklet running
[08:47] <steve> DBO, sure.  one sec.
[08:48] <Apostle^> scanwinder: you mounted the wrong partition :-D sudo umount /dev/sdb1 && sudo mount /dev/sdb2
[08:48] <Apostle^> :-)
[08:48] <angie83> hello guys
[08:48] <bliss1_> nickrud: :)
[08:48] <proton_ghost> hey
[08:48] <Madpilot> lowroad, you mean the notification area? (beside the clock by default?)
[08:48] <Apostle^> scanwinder: it's always '2'
[08:48] <lowroad> Madpilot yes
[08:48] <angie83> is it poosible to install ubuntu directly from the iso? i mean, my laptop has no cd drive...
[08:48] <Apostle^> no cd-drive?
[08:48] <Apostle^> that's odd...
[08:48] <Madpilot> lowroad, add it back the same way - look for "Notification Area" in the Add To Panel window
[08:49] <angie83> Apostle^, i know, i tried networks installl... but i haven't been able to do it..
[08:49] <PwcrLinux> angie: no CDRom?? does your lappy have a USB port?
[08:49] <skp> lowroad oh oh ... its the notification area...still I m not sure that happened to me too and now the things wil appear seperately on the desktop as for gaim there will be one and another one for the update notifier is it ??
[08:49] <shray> how do I play .wmv ?
[08:49] <shray> what codecs do i need
[08:49] <angie83> PwcrLinux, yep
[08:49] <lowroad> Madpilot, skp, I got it back.  Thanks a lot!
[08:49] <scanwinder> Apostle^: mount: can't find /dev/sdb2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[08:49] <saik0> !tell shray about restrictedformats
[08:49] <DBO> angie83, does your lappies BIOS say if it supports boot from USB?
[08:49] <skp> lowroad welcome
[08:49] <thoreauputic> !tell shray about restricted
[08:49] <Apostle^> scanwinder: did you add /dev/sdb2 to /etc/fstab ?
[08:49] <angie83> DBO, nope, that's the shame
[08:49] <thoreauputic> saik0: oops :)
[08:49] <Madpilot> lowroad, np
[08:49] <onephatmind> whatever happened to php5-mysqli? the repos only have php5-mysql
[08:49] <PwcrLinux> Angie: You can get USB CDROM drive, and set up a bios look for CD setting for boots up from CD..
[08:49] <steve> DBO, http://rafb.net/paste/results/yD4Ucb36.html
[08:50] <saik0> thoreauputic, oops?
[08:50] <angie83> PwcrLinux, i do not have a cdrom external...
[08:50] <angie83> only thing i have, it's an ipod
[08:50] <skp> dual screen configuration ... with ATI card cant get the expanded mode ... it opens two desktops for me ... I can move the mouse from one to another but none of the windows
[08:50] <scanwinder> Apostle^: woops, had a typo in /etc/fstab now when i go2 mount it, it says mount: special device /dev/sdb2 does not exist
[08:50] <thoreauputic> saik0: I just repeated your bot call , basically
[08:50] <Apostle^> scanwinder: did you unmount /dev/sdb1
[08:50] <thoreauputic> saik0: ie didn't notice you'd done it already
[08:50] <Apostle^> scanwinder: is this an ipod ?
[08:51] <saik0> thoreauputic, oh there it is. i missed it. it's late here -_-
[08:51] <scanwinder> Apostle^: yes
[08:51] <thoreauputic> saik0: :)
[08:51] <scanwinder> Apostle^: but i had the same prob with a normal flash drive
[08:51] <Apostle^> scanwinder: this is killing me here, i don't see what the problem is..
[08:51] <angie83> i found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28948  so i though it might be possible to install it some way
[08:51] <Apostle^> scanwinder: sudo chmod 777 /media
[08:51] <DBO> steve, open nautilus, press ctrl+l, then type smb://127.0.0.1/<sharename>
[08:51] <scanwinder> Apostle^: /dev/sdb1 was unmounted
[08:51] <steve> DBO, sorry, when I click on Windows Network, it says "smb:/// is not a valid location"
[08:51] <Apostle^> scanwinder: hmm i don't understand this, it's strange
[08:52] <angie83> PwcrLinux, i think that i could boot from usb, throught a Smartboot floppydisk, right?
[08:52] <PwcrLinux> Angie: yes, if your bios support USB floppy
[08:52] <scanwinder> Apostle^: after sudo chmod 777 /media, i still get mount: special device /dev/sdb2 does not exist
[08:52] <angie83> PwcrLinux, i got floppy on the lappy
[08:52] <Apostle^> scanwinder: yea, that wouldn't fix that. i'm trying to see what your underlying problem is
[08:52] <angie83> PwcrLinux, how could i install it from the ipod?
[08:52] <Apostle^> scanwinder: what kind of ipod
[08:53] <scanwinder> Apostle^: shuffle
[08:53] <DBO> ah ha
[08:53] <Apostle^> scanwinder: hrm, unplug + replug and do dmesg again
[08:53] <DBO> its a flash drive
[08:53] <steve> DBO, same thing.
[08:53] <steve> "not a valid location
[08:53] <slavik> yo
[08:53] <DBO> steve "ps -ef | grep samba"
[08:53] <slavik> what's xgl? opengl extension?
[08:54] <DBO> slavik, esentially, yes, that is what it provides
[08:54] <slavik> and compiz?
[08:54] <DBO> transparency for the most part
[08:54] <scanwinder> Apostle^: http://pastebin.com/664496
[08:54] <bina> Does graphics card compatibility depend on the manufacturer or the graphics processor?
[08:54] <slavik> bina: who made your card?
[08:55] <saik0> steve, when you cahred the folder in nautilus, did you share with smb?
[08:55] <PwcrLinux> Angie: I don't have a ipod or such.. I have only Flash drive, CDRom and etc..
[08:55] <slavik> bina: the graphics processor usually
[08:55] <DBO> saik0, yeah, its in his smb.conf
[08:55] <steve> DBO, just shows the processes currently viewing /etc/samba/smb.conf
[08:55] <steve> saik0, yes.
[08:55] <Apostle^> scanwinder: that dmesg makes no sense to me...
[08:55] <saik0> DBO, just making sure, it does NFS too
[08:55] <angie83> PwcrLinux,  I assume a flash drive is the same as the ipod, i repeat the question... how can i install ubuntu from a flash drive?
[08:55] <DBO> steve "sudo /etc/init.d/samba start"
[08:55] <Apostle^> scanwinder: you have a problem and it's way over my head
[08:55] <steve> DBO, I already did a restart
[08:55] <bina> slavik: My old card broke last night so im looking to get a cheap one, I was looking at Sapphire Technology card with a Radeon 9550
[08:55] <steve> DBO, smbd is running
[08:56] <steve> DBO, but I'll try again.
[08:56] <scanwinder> Apostle^: ok...thanks for your help anyway
[08:56] <slavik> bina: I like sapphire :)
[08:56] <slavik> all my big cards are from them
[08:56] <DBO> steve...wow Im messing up...
[08:56] <slavik> which is exactly 2
[08:56] <slavik> 9800xt which I've sold and x800pro vivo which I flashed :)
[08:56] <Frogzoo> bina: interested in 3D games? if so, stay clear of ATI until they fix their crap drivers
[08:56] <steve> DBO, ?
[08:56] <PwcrLinux> Angie: Umm, a flash drive should have auto-run installation..
[08:56] <slavik> but I am running ati 200m atm
[08:56] <slavik> and using ati drivers :)
[08:57] <scanwinder> Apostle^: ill nuke the drive, maybe its a filesystem problem
[08:57] <DBO> steve, try to connect from another computer
[08:57] <bina> slavik: sweet, ill buy that then. its only 40 :)
[08:57] <slavik> bina: general recomendation is for nvidia cards though because supposedly they have better driver support, but don't quote me on that
[08:57] <Frogzoo> slavik: ATI's 2D support is great, but 3D is horribly broken
[08:57] <Apostle^> scanwinder: k
[08:57] <sfar> hm, my sound is really crappy in linux (not in windows).. and i really dont know how to fix it or where to begin .. (it sounds almost like the speaker is blown)
[08:57] <tri-prihantoro> haiiiiiiiii
[08:57] <Apostle^> Frogzoo: my 3d works perfectly
[08:57] <bina> Frogzoo: I dont play games much, i just do coding mainly on here
[08:57] <Frogzoo> Apostle^: as does mine, but the frame rates are just so sad
[08:57] <slavik> Frogzoo: I am running on integrated ... there is barely any 3d support by definition :P
[08:57] <angie83> Hello? Can anyone here help me to use my ipod to install ubuntu from usb?
[08:57] <bina> Frogzoo: Tux racer and screensavers is about it :)
[08:58] <Apostle^> Frogzoo: mine runs good
[08:58] <slavik> Frogzoo: glxinfo | grep direct gives yes ;)
[08:58] <skp> Dual Screen with ATI card Nebody Succesful ??
[08:58] <bcc> hi guys, is there a guide somewhere that explains how to install ubuntu in chroot on an existing debian box?
[08:58] <slavik> for some reason pprace doesn't want to run anymore :(
[08:58] <slavik> skp: secondary projector, that count?
[08:58] <blindx> McDonald's wasn't open :@@@
[08:58] <Frogzoo> Apostle^: no - all ATI cards run poorly - if you run a doze driver, you'll get much improved frame rates
[08:58] <animato> hello, how can i change the gnome splash screen?
[08:59] <Knorrie> bcc: using debootstrap?
[08:59] <saik0> bcc, I think you want debootstrap
[08:59] <bina> slavik: :( on my old card it would just freeze as soon as I started to move down he hill
[08:59] <Apostle^> Frogzoo: i'm telling you mine run's fine i play doom3 on high
[08:59] <bcc> Knorrie: is it also available for ubuntu?
[08:59] <Toma-> is there anyway to view bash history other than pressing up? I ran a command i really need (mencoder so lots of options) and i closed it before closing another terminal and cant see it now..
[08:59] <bcc> that's exactly what i'm looking for.
[08:59] <Knorrie> bcc: sure
[08:59] <slavik> Toma-: history
[08:59] <slavik> :)
[08:59] <bcc> Knorrie: is there a tutorial that covers apt sources and other stuff for that?
[08:59] <slavik> or history | less
[08:59] <steve> DBO, in nautilus, i still can't do it.  "smb:/// is not a valid location"  <-- same message
[08:59] <slavik> or history | grep mencoder
[09:00] <slavik> :)
[09:00] <steve> DBO, smbclient seems to work, tho.  locally and remotely.
[09:00] <Frogzoo> Apostle^: the drivers are sub optimal - read up on it, the problem's well known
[09:00] <Toma-> slavik: you just saved me 15 mins :D thanks
[09:00] <skp> slavik :: as in 2 monitors ... instead of extending the desktop... it creates two sessions for me ... I can move my mouse from 1 screen to another but cant move any window ... ofcourse its dual screen of one type ... but how to make it the extending one
[09:00] <lowroad> animato:  goto your menu, under System:  Administration:  Login Setup
[09:00] <slavik> skp: mine would create 2 of the same ... which is what I wanted anyway
[09:00] <Knorrie> bcc: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/
[09:00] <slavik> ie: for demonstration purposes
[09:00] <DBO> steve, no idea... sorry
[09:00] <animato> can't find it under login setup
[09:01] <bcc> Knorrie: not for debian, but for ubuntu sources
[09:01] <animato> only the gdm
[09:01] <slavik> skp: point taken though ... driver support is lacking
[09:01] <steve> DBO, ok, thanks for trying.  :)
[09:01] <Knorrie> bcc: it's the same :)
[09:01] <bcc> Knorrie: the same mirrors?
[09:01] <slavik> but ati will step it up ...
[09:01] <saik0> bcc: also - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot?highlight=%28debootstrap%29
[09:01] <Madpilot> !tell bcc about repos
[09:01] <Knorrie> bcc: no, the same techniques
[09:01] <bcc> Knorrie: right. i'm looking for the actual stuff for ubuntu. i know how to use debootstrap in general
[09:01] <intelnux> I nned a guide on how to run ubuntu headless ( I guess any nux wiki would work)?
[09:02] <slavik> bcc, synaptic?
[09:02] <steve> DBO, I have "do not use WINS server selected...  that shouldn't matter, right?  That's only to resolve netbios names?
[09:02] <DBO> intelnux, you just need SSH server
[09:02] <saik0> bcc: ^^^ wiki link ^^^
[09:02] <bcc> ok, thanks.
[09:02] <animato> i meant ths splash screen, not gdm, i can't change it under login screen setup :(
[09:02] <bcc> is switching from debian difficult at all?
[09:02] <DBO> steve, correct
[09:02] <slavik> animato: the one when you go to the desktop from gdm?
[09:02] <animato> yes
[09:02] <Knorrie> bcc: you want to convert from debian to ubuntu?
[09:03] <slavik> bcc, doubt it
[09:03] <slavik> animato: it's not a simple command though
[09:03] <animato> the brown one which says "ubntu" and shows the loading of nautilus etc...
[09:03] <animato> i thought there was a gui
[09:03] <animato> i remember seeing a gui for it before
[09:03] <bcc> yes. the latest update on my unstable box completely screwed it up. and stable has apps that are way too outdated. so i want to try ubuntu.
[09:03] <slavik> animato: it requires going into a "registry"of sorts
[09:03] <slavik> hmm
[09:03] <shray> how does one fix a mouse, my logitech mx700 doesnt have all of the buttons working along with gnome..
[09:03] <animato> ok
[09:03] <animato> i know config editor
[09:03] <slavik> shray: the 4th and 5th button?
[09:03] <animato> where is it there?
[09:03] <Knorrie> bcc: but why not do a complete reinstall then?
[09:04] <shray> slavik, yeap
[09:04] <DBO> shray, /etc/X11/xorg.conf -> pastebin
[09:04] <slavik> animato: hang on, I'll try to remember
[09:04] <nickrud> animato, install gnome-splashscreen-manager  , you be able to run it from System->Preferences after installation
[09:04] <animato> ok thanx
[09:04] <slavik> shray: search the wiki, the fix is easy
[09:04] <slavik> !mouse
[09:04] <ubotu> it has been said that mouse is Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev Installing extra cursor themes can be done easily with gcursor
[09:04] <slavik> there ya go shray
[09:04] <animato> oh right!
[09:04] <Smerity> does anyone know of something similar to emerge in Gentoo, as when I apt-get source -b I get a HUGE list of dependencies... Gentoo usually sorted most of it out itself... Anything similar in Ubuntu?
[09:04] <animato> that's the gui!
[09:04] <animato> thanx
[09:04] <bcc> Knorrie: nah. i can't stop working. and i'm sure that i'll forget a lot of little things if i do a complete reinstall. so i want to run another x session in chroot to make sure i got everything i need ready before switching it.
[09:05] <shray> DBO, http://pastebin.com/664509
[09:05] <thoreauputic> Smerity: sudo apt-get build-dep
[09:05] <nickrud> Smerity, apt-get build-dep <package>
[09:05] <chavo> Smerity, apt-get build-dep
[09:05] <Smerity> thanks thoreauputic, nickrud and chavo =)
[09:05] <monsterb> Smerity: apt-get
[09:06] <chavo> oh didnt notice we all posted :)
[09:06] <Knorrie> bcc: i think you'll waste more time that way...
[09:06] <DBO> shray, http://pastebin.com/664512
[09:06] <chavo> I'm slowest typer I guess
[09:06] <DBO> make the changes I made to your xorg.conf
[09:06] <Smerity> doing sudo apt-get build-dep mozilla firefox results in "Build-dependencies for mozilla-firefox could not be satisfied."
[09:06] <DBO> then restart X
[09:06] <bcc> Knorrie: nah, switching later on is not hard. busybox + pivot_root.
[09:06] <Smerity> It doesn't seem to attempt to fetch them or anything
[09:07] <DBO> shray, make a backup of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf first, so you can restore it if something goes wrong
[09:07] <shray> kk
[09:07] <slavik> *** ppracer error: Couldn't initialize video: Couldn't find matching GLX visual (Success)
[09:07] <chavo> try apt-get build-dep firefox
[09:07] <bcc> anyway. thanks for the link. i'm going to do some reading.
[09:07] <burepe> Help me http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=929375#post929375
[09:07] <chavo> with sudo of course
[09:07] <slavik> any help?
[09:08] <slavik> anyone?
[09:08] <slavik> omg, dialup!!!
[09:08] <nickrud> Smerity, try apt-get build-dep firefox
[09:08] <Smerity> same response
[09:08] <wy> I don't know why emacs suddently refused to use the font I formerly configured
[09:08] <monsterb> Smerity: try out Synaptic Package Manager - unless u love command line
[09:09] <Smerity> "Build-dependencies for firefox could not be satisfied."
[09:09] <chavo> hmm worked for me, but I had everything installed already
[09:09] <nut> DBO, unknown protocol evdev.
[09:09] <Smerity> lol, monsterb, I do like command line, but I'll give Synaptic a go I guess
[09:09] <DBO> nut, are you on dapper?
[09:09] <nut> yeah
[09:09] <DBO> mmmm... yeah, that will do that...
[09:09] <DBO> nut, you will need to restore your xorg.conf
[09:10] <nut> ah  kk
[09:10] <nickrud> Smerity, I'm running dapper, and didn't have that issue. I can't try it on breezy till a reboot
[09:10] <steve> DBO, I found my problem!  :)  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=155552&highlight=samba+dapper
[09:10] <thoreauputic> Smerity: sudo apt-get build-dep mozilla-firefox works fine here
[09:10] <Smerity> nickrud, I'm on dapper,
[09:10] <monsterb> Smerity: edit your sources.list / enable all
[09:10] <uncle_bez> hey people.
[09:10] <uncle_bez> happy easter!
[09:10] <DBO> GAH!!! People need to mention if you are using dapper, it DOES matter...
[09:10] <nickrud> Smerity, monsterb has the first step
[09:10] <onephatmind> can i consult with somebody who has experience with debian/ubuntu, suse and red hat for 2 minutes in pm please?
[09:10] <monsterb> happy easter bez
[09:11] <thoreauputic> Smerity: #ubuntu+1  for dapper questions
[09:11] <Smerity> oh well, thanks guys, I'll try it out, looks like my system may not have all it's marbles =)
[09:11] <Smerity> thoreauputic, ok, thanks
[09:11] <nut> DBO wanna link me to my pastebin? the download link pls
[09:11] <onephatmind> i have to decide and a knowledgeable advice would be much appreciated
[09:11] <nut> DBO: I forgot to backup, woops.
[09:11] <spikeb> LOL
[09:11] <bigGrim> hi, i get "The following packages have unresolvable dependencies" libsdl-mixer1.2 when trying to install the "freeciv-gtk" client
[09:11] <steve> DBO, yeah, sorry.... :(  Does this mean Dapper will not have smb access by default?  or is it just "not done"?
[09:12] <uncle_bez> can sum1 point me to where I can find out how to get ubunto to automatically dial the internet (internet sharing with win98 using firestarter and dhcp) otherwise my wife has to log into my desktop and dial from there.
[09:12] <nut> woops, i had it.
[09:12] <monsterb>  Smerity: edit your sources.list / enable all / your system will have all the marbles
[09:12] <DBO> nut, in the xorg.conf, there is a section that is commented out (for your mouse), uncomment it, and comment out the section below that
[09:12] <wy> You install something, and suddenly other thing's broken
[09:12] <onephatmind> spikeb, are you getting my responses?
[09:12] <spikeb> onephatmind, no
[09:12] <DBO> steve, its just not done yet
[09:12] <onephatmind> shoot
[09:12] <Smerity> monsterb, thanks, will try
[09:12] <spikeb> onephatmind, join #spikeb
[09:12] <nut> DBO: thanks, what should I do instead of evdev?
[09:13] <steve> DBO, gotcha.  :)
[09:13] <DBO> nut, I dont know, I have never configured a logitech mouse for dapper, check at #ubuntu+1
[09:13] <nut> thanks
[09:13] <steve> #ubuntu+1 is for dapper talk?
[09:13] <spikeb> yes steve
[09:13] <DBO> yes
[09:13] <steve> Aaah.....  :D
[09:13] <steve> thanks.
[09:15] <bcc> do people use apt-get or aptitude with ubuntu?
[09:15] <DBO> its just preference
[09:15] <DBO> I use apt-get
[09:15] <bcc> ok, so they both work? good.
[09:15] <DBO> yes
[09:15] <bcc> thanks
[09:15] <Madpilot> bcc, Synaptic is the gui optin
[09:15] <Madpilot> *option
[09:16] <uncle_bez> anyhelp on the auto internet dialing (dialup)
[09:17] <PwcrLinux> anyway, My lappy LCD too brightness, I need to set the default at 5, how to edit the confs or something?
[09:18] <bcc> on that wiki page, it says use "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_0.3.1.4ubuntu4_all.deb" for breezy. and that package is no longer available. what's the corect version of debootstrap for that release?
[09:19] <monsterb> Has anyone tried http://www.ajaxwrite.com/ ..... It's pretty cool.  Nothing to install, opens in Firefox.
[09:19] <thoreauputic> !info debootstrap
[09:19] <ubotu> debootstrap: (Bootstrap a basic Debian system), section admin, is extra. Version: 0.3.1.6ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 45 kB, Installed size: 236 kB
[09:20] <DBO> hey Madpilot, have you ever heard of a ssh connection that is left open in GNOME Terminal causing X.org's Resident Memory usage to climb at about 5MB an hour?
[09:20] <bcc> thanks
[09:20] <DBO> (ok, kind of specific, but thats whats going on, easy fix is to restart the client, but I am curious)
[09:20] <Madpilot> DBO, nope, but I don't use SSH much
[09:20] <slavik> *** ppracer error: Couldn't initialize video: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[09:20] <Madpilot> DBO, check Ubuntu's bug reports https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[09:21] <DBO> took me darn near two weeks to figure out what in the heck was causing it
[09:21] <DBO> never even gave the SSH window a thought...
[09:22] <sfar> !sound
[09:22] <ubotu> sound is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[09:22] <angie83> Can anyone here help me to use my ipod to install ubuntu from usb?
[09:23] <spikeb> haha
[09:23] <spikeb> now that sounds like fun angie83
[09:23] <slavik> *** ppracer error: Couldn't initialize video: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[09:23] <angie83> spikeb, why?
[09:23] <DBO> angie83, just exactly what KIND of ipod?
[09:23] <slavik> I have ati drivers installed and working
[09:23] <angie83> DBO, nano
[09:23] <spikeb> angie83, kind of a geeky thing to do :)
[09:23] <pax> angie83, what filesystem is used by your ipod?
[09:23] <angie83> spikeb, lol, i suppose i am a geeky girl then
[09:24] <blindx> Said a person in #ubuntu
[09:24] <angie83> pax, fat
[09:24] <spikeb> angie83, if you make any progress, keep me updated
[09:24] <pax> fat what?
[09:24] <spikeb> angie83, i might just try it myself
[09:24] <angie83> spikeb, ok
[09:24] <pax> 12, 16, 32?
[09:24] <Marineboy> I need to get Windows back on there!
[09:24] <angie83> pax, i think 16
[09:24] <pax> forget it then.
[09:24] <Marineboy> god i'm tired of messing with this and installation fails EVERY time!
[09:25] <pax> LOL
[09:25] <angie83> pax, must be 32?
[09:25] <Marineboy> Pax are you advanced in Ubuntu?
[09:25] <monsterb> Marineboy: whats failing?
[09:26] <Marineboy> Hell if I know this is the error it gives me......
[09:26] <pax> Marineboy, no I'm not, just installed ubuntu yesterday.
[09:26] <angie83> spikeb, do u know any floppy boot disk, that can boot from usb?
[09:26] <Marineboy> Base System Installation Erro
[09:26] <spikeb> angie83, not offhand
[09:26] <enyc> Urrrm... ?what is the esenario with security updates for Firefox-1.0.7 as included in Ubuntu-Breezy? -- 1.5 has some updates and 1.5.0.2 has many security flaws fixed.....
[09:26] <DBO> angie, I imagine it would be possible, but a network install is probably easier
[09:26] <spikeb> angie83, then again, none of my machines have floppy drives
[09:26] <Marineboy> The debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1) Check /target/var/log/boostrap.log for details
[09:26] <angie83> DBO, that's what i've been tring those days...
[09:27] <angie83> spikeb, so ipod option is the coolest then ;)
[09:27] <spikeb> angie83, hehe
[09:27] <Marineboy> The base system installaion into /target failed check /target/var/bootstrap.log for details
[09:27] <Marineboy> thats the errors.
[09:27] <pax> angie83, you know you can't install linux on fat, right? unless you're ready to get your hands dirty and code something :-)
[09:27] <DBO> angie83, ipod option is coolest, but also a GREAT way to kill its hard drive (not designed to run for hours straight)
[09:27] <angie83> pax, i want to install FROM usb, not TO
[09:28] <angie83> DBO, same for u
[09:28] <pax> angie, k so why are we ralking about ipod then?
[09:28] <DBO> angie83, huh?
[09:28] <angie83> pax,  i though maybe i could install to my laptop FROM the ipod
[09:29] <dli> angie83, debian has a howto for from usb
[09:29] <monsterb> Marineboy: do u have AMD64 CD version, install on a 32bit machine?
[09:29] <DBO> angie83, no no, if you try to install from it, you do run the chance of ruining the ipod as its designed to run its hard drive for 20 seconds at a time, not 3 hours
[09:29] <DBO> I have seen ipods burn out in less that 2 hours that way...
[09:29] <Marineboy> I got a Intel motherboard/processor
[09:29] <Marineboy> I'm trying to install this file.
[09:29] <angie83> dli,  but i need a floppy that ables me to boot from usb
[09:29] <Marineboy> the i382
[09:30] <dli> angie83, you bios can not take usb?
[09:30] <angie83> dli,  nope
[09:30] <Marineboy> monster please pm me.
[09:30] <angie83> DBO, i've been trying the network install, but not working, i tried the one in the wiki
[09:30] <Marineboy> i can barely keep up in here.
[09:30] <dli> angie83, and you have no cd ?
[09:30] <Steil> Can somebody help me with setting up an iCal calendar with evolution?
[09:30] <angie83> dli,  nope, i just found an thinkpad T20 for 100 euro
[09:30] <angie83> but, no cd
[09:31] <dli> angie83, I suppose it can boot via network
[09:31] <angie83> yes
[09:31] <angie83> dli, it has that optino in bios
[09:31] <dli> angie83, then, install from network
[09:31] <angie83> but i'm not quite sure it works
[09:31] <enyc> Urrm.. Seems that Firefox has a ver 1.0.8 source.. so Breezy could use that for the time-being... as security-update..
[09:31] <angie83> dli,  that's what i've been trying last 2 days
[09:31] <dli> angie83, you need a clear howto :)
[09:31] <enyc> where are security team discussions? ;-)
[09:32] <angie83> dli, with respects, i found that the howto's assume every step is gonna be correct
[09:32] <Madpilot> enyc, possibly #ubuntu-devel - not sure, though
[09:32] <DBO> enyc, this is mostly tech support, I dont know where you would submit that kind of issue
[09:32] <dli> angie83, and, ubuntu doesn't do this, you maybe try debian
[09:32] <angie83> and no explanation is given if a step does not work
[09:32] <pax> dli eh?
[09:32] <DBO> angie83, where is your network install failing?
[09:32] <dli> angie83, the howto assume an understanding reader :(
[09:32] <angie83> dli, 
[09:32] <Hobbsee> enyc: i think they are updating it
[09:33] <angie83> dli, i'm not such a newbie...
[09:33] <Marineboy> i am about to give up.
[09:33] <pax> angie83, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/install/
[09:33] <enyc> Hobbsee: ooh where/how do you see that?
[09:33] <Hobbsee> enyc: i thought i saw it in a meeting somewhere, or maybe in MOTU.
[09:33] <angie83> pax, 2.2.4. Network
[09:33] <angie83> You can also boot your system over the network.
[09:33] <angie83> Diskless installation, using network booting from a local area network and NFS-mounting of all local filesystems, is another option.
[09:33] <angie83> After the operating system kernel is installed, you can install the rest of your system via any sort of network connection (including PPP after installation of the base system), via FTP or HTTP.
[09:33] <angie83> ups
[09:34] <Hobbsee> enyc: i cant see how they would *not* upgdate it
[09:34] <angie83> shit.. sorry for the paste thing
[09:34] <dli> angie83, the try debian, read the FAI project for debian, basically, you need a dhcp-server, tftpd server, nfsroot server, then, you can install whatever (via chroot)
[09:34] <angie83> dli, that was i was runnning yesterday
[09:34] <dli> angie83, what's the problem then?
[09:34] <angie83> dli, and i also tried the windows box method
[09:34] <angie83> none of them seem to work
[09:34] <angie83> on ubuntu
[09:34] <monsterb> Marineboy: are u new to Linux or Ubuntu?
[09:34] <angie83> i cnnot restart de dhcp server
[09:35] <Marineboy> I was around Linux a long time ago.
[09:35] <dli> angie83, I won't even try ubuntu for that, gentoo maybe, debian is an easy way to go
[09:35] <Marineboy> Never really got advanced in it.
[09:35] <Marineboy> Never used Ubuntu.
[09:35] <monsterb> Have u tried a LiveCD ?
[09:35] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: Mozilla.org are end-of-lifing the FF1.* series (problem for future security updates)
[09:35] <angie83> dli, http://gridpt1.fe.up.pt/mlopes/blog/index.php/ubuntu-network-install/
[09:35] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: some discussion on sounder
[09:35] <angie83> dli, i was doing that
[09:35] <Marineboy> thats what I'm booting my computer off of.
[09:35] <Hobbsee> thoreauputic: ah ok.
[09:36] <Marineboy> When I tryed to install it 3 days ago it deleted my windows partition
[09:36] <dli> angie83, you mean you couldn't set up your dhcp-server?
[09:36] <Marineboy> so i have no OS thats why its kinda critical i get something up here.
[09:36] <angie83> dli, but, root@server:~ # /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart did not work
[09:36] <angie83> always fail
[09:37] <dli> angie83, that has nothing to do with installation, read dhcpd howto, man dhcpd.conf, read howto from the FAI project
[09:37] <angie83> ??
[09:37] <dli> angie83, correct your kernel, your dhcpd.conf
[09:38] <mDot> damn it! screwed around and broke video playback. i can't get any video player to play.... anything. including wmv video that played fine 10 minutes ago. the only changes ive made are a reinstall of the resticted formats nvida stuff... other then that... nothing any ideas?
[09:38] <dli> angie83, another way, take the hdd from the laptop, put it in a usb box, and install it at other computer
[09:39] <angie83> dli, and for the hardware?
[09:39] <DBO> what about the hardware?  just reconfigure xorg...
[09:40] <dli> angie83, at least, you can build your own kernel with hardware support, correct configuration files, and it will boot
[09:40] <DBO> its a perfectly cromulent idea =)
[09:40] <angie83> ok
[09:40] <dli> angie83, again, I suggest you to do that in debian
[09:40] <Toma-> I need to encode a video. the darn PMP im watching it on only supports ASF and AVI. ive tried encoding my own avi but to no avail. Heres some debugging, i hop someone can tell me what i need... http://pastebin.com/664531
[09:40] <angie83> by the way i've been able to do the dhcp stuff
[09:40] <dli> angie83, then, get the tftpd, nfsroot, and you can install
[09:41] <angie83> got them already
[09:41] <Marineboy> monsterb: did you get my PM?
[09:41] <monsterb> YES
[09:41] <thoreauputic> DBO: what does "cromulent" mean, pray tell?
[09:41] <angie83> nope. dli don't have nfsboot
[09:41] <DBO> thoreauputic, I dont know what you are talking about, its a perfectly cromulent workd =P
[09:41] <angie83> root
[09:41] <angie83> nfsroot
[09:41] <thoreauputic> DBO: heheh :D
[09:41] <angie83> dli, wait a sec
[09:42] <DBO> thoreauputic, its a simpsons joke, its a made up word to justify other things
[09:42] <thoreauputic> DBO: ah I see - I'm out of touch with popular culture ;-)
[09:42] <patrick52222> is there a programme like the nero movie creator(video dvd)
[09:42] <NewbieBoy> how can i install internet explorer in ubuntu?
[09:42] <dli> angie83, several ways, you can simply "cp -a" a working installation to a folder, like, "cp -a /usr /bin /sbin /opt /lib /share /usr/local/nfsroot/"
[09:43] <DBO> thoreauputic, thats where firefox 1.5 is your friend, just type "slang cromulent" (without the quotes) into the address bar and away you go
[09:43] <thoreauputic> DBO: hmm - nice tip
[09:43] <dli> angie83, don't forget to mkdir /dev, /proc, /sys in the nfsroot, and MAKEDEV generic in the dev folder there
[09:43] <Madpilot> NewbieBoy, you can run IE through Wine, if you really have to
[09:43] <angie83> wait a sec dli
[09:44] <thoreauputic> DBO: as it happens I installed FF1.5 yesterday :)
[09:44] <DBO> thoreauputic, its how I keep in touch with *looks up words* young hipsters
[09:44] <monsterb> Marineboy: don't think the PM is working - im not registered
[09:44] <Marineboy> oh okay.
[09:44] <Marineboy> hrm.
[09:44] <Marineboy> do you have AIM or YIM?
[09:44] <Marineboy> or MSN?
[09:44] <angie83> dli, i followed everysingle step in that howto
[09:44] <NewbieBoy> Madpilot, who should i do? do i have to download the IE from the microsoft site?
[09:44] <patrick52222> is there a programme like the nero movie creator (video dvd) if you know what im on about for ubuntu
[09:44] <Frogzoo> NewbieBoy: you sometimes can get ie6 to install under wine - but it's very wine version dependent, you also need a couple of native dlls
[09:45] <angie83> dli, i suppose now, i have to make the netbood stuff?
[09:45] <angie83> dli http://gridpt1.fe.up.pt/mlopes/blog/index.php/ubuntu-network-install/
[09:45] <dli> angie83, I don't care, indeed, I hate "I followed every step many times, it simply doesn't work", be more specific
[09:45] <Madpilot> NewbieBoy, if you just need a browser, Firefox is installed by default. Otherwise, google "IE in Linux" for more help
[09:45] <NewbieBoy> ok.
[09:45] <monsterb> Marineboy: use LiveCD to read bootstrap.log - look for the error
[09:45] <NewbieBoy> Madpilot, thanks!
[09:45] <angie83> dli, "And now run the clients. If you were able to see the Ubuntu boot prompt, thats it. Now you just have to carry on with the installation. Otherwise, if you didnt see anything and the boot continued as usual  just like happened to me  then keep reading this tutorial.The alternative is, like I said before, using a boot disk with the drivers. Etherboot has what were looking for"
[09:45] <fogos> hi...when  i play some music on ubuntu, the flash movies on firefoz or epiphany are muted... somebody knows what happens
[09:46] <angie83> i just wanted to ask u about Etherboot
[09:46] <DBO> fogos, what are you using as a sound device, ALSA? ESD? OSS?
[09:46] <bcc> does breezy use xorg or xfree86?
[09:46] <thoreauputic> bcc: xorg
[09:46] <DBO> xorg
[09:46] <bcc> thanks
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[09:46] <Marineboy> mosterb: where is bootstrap.log at?
[09:47] <picur> hy
[09:47] <dli> bcc, no major linux distro uses xfree86 now, xfree86 is dead
[09:47] <picur> mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /mnt/hd/ busy
[09:47] <bcc> debian sarge does
[09:47] <picur> I tryd to mount my fat partition
[09:47] <spikeb> debian uses xfree...
[09:47] <spikeb> heh, what bcc said
[09:47] <picur> that was the reply msg
[09:47] <picur> ideas?
[09:47] <dli> bcc, because, debian sarge is old :(
[09:47] <bcc> yes
[09:47] <bcc> that's why i'm trying ubuntu :)
[09:47] <spikeb> etch isn't quite so old though
[09:48] <dli> bcc, and debian never upgrade packages in stable :) only patch for security
[09:48] <bcc> i know
[09:48] <spikeb> although it will be by the time it comes out
[09:48] <spikeb> dli, far as i know, ubuntu does the same thing, they just release stable versions far more often
[09:48] <DBO> fogos, good question, try switching to ESD
[09:48] <dli> bcc, I'm sure etch has xorg, 7.0 ?
[09:48] <bcc> sarge is not testing any more, so it came out a while ago
[09:48] <patrick52222> is there any programes like Nero Vision for ubuntu
[09:48] <Toma-> patrick52222: what does nerovision do?
[09:49] <patrick52222> create movie dvds
[09:49] <monsterb> Marineboy: im looking for it
[09:49] <pax> cat /etc/debian_version what do you get?
[09:49] <Toma-> patrick52222: sure, qdvdauthor is one i use
, or a command to reboot alsa?
[09:49] <Marineboy> i found it in /var/log
[09:49] <patrick52222> ok will give it ago
[09:49] <dli> patrick52222, I heard k3b can do it (with some plugin/patches), but no experience
, do you know someone
[09:50] <DBO> uhhh lets see here
[09:50] <DBO> "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart"
[09:50] <spikeb> there's also nero for linux
[09:50] <spikeb> which is not free OR open source.
[09:51] <DBO> or as good as K3B
[09:51] <Toma-> nero 4 linux isnt a nero vision program ;)
[09:51] <spikeb> DBO, nero for windows isnt as good as k3b either
[09:51] <Toma-> he needs a dvd authoring program
[09:51] <angie83> dli,  i think that my etherboot floppy just does not have the correct drivers..
[09:51] <DBO> spikeb, yes, but its better than k3b for windows =P
[09:51] <spikeb> DBO, very true
[09:51] <spikeb> DBO, haha
[09:51] <monsterb> Marineboy: ok cool
[09:52] <spikeb> define dvd authoring...something like imovie/idvd?
[09:52] <Marineboy> dont tell me anything
[09:52] <dli> angie83, why do you need a floppy, just select NIC as the first booting device :(
[09:52] <Toma-> spikeb: it makes the menus and backgrounds then muxes it to a vob and creates an ISO of your dvd
[09:52] <monsterb> Marineboy: file is empty?
[09:52] <spikeb> ahh yes
[09:53] <Toma-> !find dvdstyler
[09:53] <Marineboy> no it gots ALOT in there
[09:53] <patrick52222> im need to put my avi files and stuff to a dvd so i can watch it in a dvd player
[09:53] <bcc> does any debian package work on ubuntu?
[09:53] <patrick52222> yes what Toma- said
[09:53] <spikeb> bcc, no
[09:53] <angie83> dli, it just does not boot
[09:54] <bcc> spikeb: i see.
[09:54] <angie83> dli, it's marked boot from network, but someone told me here yesterday, that it should be PXE
[09:54] <Toma-> patrick52222: ahhh. now youre getting into trouble territory. you MAY need to fix the AVI to mpeg before using qdvdauthor, but im not sure.
[09:54] <Toma-> !info dvdstyler
[09:54] <bcc> spikeb: is there a way to know which ones would work and which ones wont?
[09:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'dvdstyler' returned no results.
[09:54] <patrick52222> Toma- huh?
[09:55] <angie83> dli, cuz if the network card is not PXE enables, it wont work
[09:55] <spikeb> bcc, not that i can think of
[09:55] <Toma-> patrick52222: DVD players cant use avi files directly, unless they supports thinks like divx/xvid and so on
[09:55] <mDot> man this is really frustrating
[09:55] <dli> angie83, I think thinkpad can do pxe
[09:55] <monsterb> Marineboy: repartition/format harddrive and try again
[09:55] <mDot> black screen on all video playback but i have audio
[09:56] <bcc> spikeb: ok
[09:56] <mDot> any ideas
[09:56] <patrick52222> Toma- but won the programme change into vob
[09:57] <Toma-> patrick52222: yeh hopefully... cant remember if it re-encodes or not
[09:57] <Marineboy> thats where i'm having a problem.
[09:57] <Marineboy> I need someone to call me or to call someone so they can walk me through it.
[09:58] <eggzeck> Marineboy, just use guided partitioning
[09:58] <Frogzoo> mDot: libdvdcss2 installed?
[09:58] <angie83> dli, the network card is mini pci i think
[09:58] <angie83> dli, i just tried from another lappy and it booted
[09:58] <monsterb> Marineboy: eggzeck has it
[09:58] <angie83> it gives me an tftp timeout, but at least tries to
[09:59] <mDot> FrogzooL not playing from DVD, and the videos were working fine a minute ago.... started playing with restricted formats to get nvidia working and this happened
[09:59] <dli> angie83, an easy way take the working nic card, plug it in] 
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> can anyone recommend a 'borderless' term for gnome?
[09:59] <angie83> dli, the working is embedd
[09:59] <Marineboy> eggzeck?
[09:59] <angie83> dli, does not really matter, thx anyway
[09:59] <mDot> fyrestrtr define term
[09:59] <angie83> i will keep trying
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> mDot: terminal? shell .. command prompt window.
[10:00] <angie83> dli, have to go, but really thanks for ur help
[10:00] <Frogzoo> mDot: did you change settings in: system -> preferences -> multimedia selector -> video
[10:00] <eggzeck> fyrestrtr, errrr you can view it in fullscreen
[10:00] <monsterb> Marineboy: he said  just use guided partitioning - it will auto set up everything for you
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> eggzeck: I know that, that's not what I want.
[10:00] <angie83> dli,  if i get it working i will tell ya
[10:01] <Marineboy> ill try it.
[10:01] <Marineboy> oh wait.
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> I need a borderless term that's windowed -- basically with a very thin border, no menu, etc.
[10:01] <mDot> Frogzoo no multimedia selector menu item, but no didn't do that
[10:01] <Marineboy> thats the one I did use.
[10:01] <Marineboy> cause it made a swap
[10:01] <Marineboy> root
[10:01] <Marineboy> and home
[10:01] <Marineboy> partition
[10:01] <Frogzoo> mDot: this gnome?
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> !enter
[10:01] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[10:01] <mDot> Frogzoo yes, dapper though
[10:01] <monsterb> Marineboy: thats why it wiped out windows the 1st time
[10:02] <Frogzoo> mDot: under breezy it's: system -> preferences -> multimedia systems selector -> video
[10:02] <Jasey> Question: i need to burn something to cd from within windows and take it to my machine running ubuntu. but when i stick it in my ubuntu machine: Given UDI is not a mountable volume. Help please?
[10:02] <mDot> not there
[10:03] <monsterb> Marineboy: You need a "SWAP" partition and a root partition "/"
[10:03] <Marineboy> i need to find my windows installation cd.
[10:03] <NewbieBoy> i'm trying to check my gmail and using mozilla... i can't open the site... it says i have to download the PSM (Personal Security Manager)... why?
[10:03] <Frogzoo> mDot: maybe ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:04] <bcc> how can i make /sys available to the environment inside chroot?
[10:06] <NewbieBoy> i'm trying to check my gmail and using mozilla... i can't open the site... it says i have to download the PSM (Personal Security Manager)... why?
[10:06] <NewbieBoy> please help
[10:06] <Jasey> to personally manage your security ;) lol i dunno
[10:07] <Frogzoo> bcc: mount /proc
[10:07] <Frogzoo> bcc: mount /sys
[10:07] <bcc> Frogzoo: yeah, i got that.
[10:07] <sfar> how do i check wich driver i use for my soundcard?
[10:08] <Malcolm_Keynes> sfar: lsmod | grep snd
[10:08] <sfar> thanks
[10:08] <Malcolm_Keynes> hello Cobain
[10:09] <Jasey> Question: i need to burn something to cd from within windows and take it to my machine running ubuntu. but when i stick it in my ubuntu machine: Given UDI is not a mountable volume. Help please?
[10:09] <[C] hris> hopefully checkinstall installs wine 0.9.11 for me
[10:09] <Cobain> hell malcom
[10:09] <Cobain> err hello even..
[10:11] <Ohzie> Can I mount a device at multiple mount points?
[10:12] <dli> Ohzie, use, mount -o bind /dir1 /dir2
[10:12] <bcc> in what package can i find xorgconfig?
[10:12] <Ohzie> How would I put that into an fstab?
[10:12] <dli> bcc, use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:13] <dli> Ohzie, put "bind" in options
[10:13] <bcc> dli: thanks
[10:14] <Felpiz> !list
[10:14] <ubotu> [list]  you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:14] <monsterb> Jasey: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85777
[10:14] <Jasey> thanks monsterb
[10:14] <Jasey> :)
[10:14] <monsterb> Jasey: that link has the fix
[10:14] <Jasey> thank you, let me have a look, im sure it will be helpful
[10:15] <monsterb> Jasey: there is a program u need call "pmount"
[10:15] <Jasey> how will i obtain that
[10:15] <Malcolm_Keynes> apt-get instal pmount?
[10:16] <Malcolm_Keynes> install even (silly 'l' key)
[10:16] <Jasey> lol
[10:16] <Jasey> does that require an internet connexion
[10:16] <Malcolm_Keynes> Jasey, Yes. Yes it does.
[10:16] <mmmiiikkkeee> i have a program that i want to launch on startup in the 3rd workspace on my computer... how do i go about doing this??
[10:16] <monsterb> Jasey: yes
[10:16] <Jasey> it isnt internet ready
[10:16] <Jasey> :(
[10:17] <Malcolm_Keynes> mmmiiikkkeee which window manager?
[10:17] <mmmiiikkkeee> currently it launches in the first one
[10:17] <mmmiiikkkeee> gnome
[10:17] <Malcolm_Keynes> hmmmmmm. I'm sure this is possible. One can do it in kde..
[10:18] <bcc> how can i make a device in a chroot to fix this? "(**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
[10:18] <bcc> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
[10:18] <bcc> "
[10:18] <mmmiiikkkeee> is there a gnome irc i could go 2?
[10:18] <bcc> i don't even have /dev/input there
[10:18] <Jasey> well i wont be able to obtain pmount 0.9.6-1 without the internet connection. what sucks is the modem driver is on the cd im trying to get work.... :(
[10:18] <Malcolm_Keynes> there is #gnome, but try right clicking on the title bar and seeing what options there are
[10:18] <chavo> mmmiiikkkeee, you can do it with devilspie, but it's not fun to setup
[10:19] <Malcolm_Keynes> Jasey what OS are you using now?
[10:19] <chavo> there's no gui config
[10:19] <monsterb> Jasey: yes - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy  download pmount and everything it depends on...and "dpkg -i filename"
[10:19] <Malcolm_Keynes> Jasey, what monsterb said.
[10:19] <Malcolm_Keynes> lol
[10:19] <Jasey> im on a different pc using win xp :P
[10:20] <goo> I am wondering what happened to dpkg-reconfigure locales  in Dapper? I do not get a list of locales to generate, only a messagethat says I have to run tzconfig ifI want to change my timezone.. Any hints?
[10:20] <Jasey> ((((( monsterb )))))) how, if the machine with ubuntu is not internet ready, cos it has no modem driver...
[10:20] <Jasey> oh wait
[10:20] <monsterb> Jasey: download all the debs on XP - put them on CD if u can.
[10:20] <Jasey> the ubuntu machine doesnt read CDs xD
[10:21] <Jasey> well, none ive burned so far
[10:21] <Jasey> using joliet format, which is linux-compliant >_>
[10:21] <monsterb> Jasey, no network?
[10:21] <Jasey> no
[10:21] <Jasey> but
[10:21] <Jasey> the machine is partitioned between windows and linux
[10:22] <Jasey> i could download the things i need via windows, then access them thru linux because you can do that which is wonderful...
[10:22] <Jasey> yes yes
[10:22] <Jasey> is that possible
[10:22] <monsterb> Jasey: there u go
[10:22] <Jasey> wonderful
[10:22] <NewbieBoy> i have a .tar.gz file... how do i run the file?
[10:22] <Jasey> now i need to find my phone cord xD
[10:23] <NewbieBoy> how do i extract a .tar.gz file?
[10:23] <monsterb> Jasey, in Ubuntu goto /media/  and copy the stuff over
[10:24] <Frogzoo> NewbieBoy: tar zxf blah.tgz
[10:24] <Jasey> ok
[10:25] <monsterb> Jasey, do u have broadband avail in your area ?  :)
[10:25] <lucia_engel> My sound used to work (unless there's alot of stuff playing, then I needed to reboot), but now it doesn't work at all even after reboot, any sound expert here?
[10:25] <Jasey> yeah ADSL
[10:26] <Jasey> linux currently does not have any drivers for my ADSL modem
[10:26] <xopher> Jasey, what modem do you have?
[10:26] <monsterb> Jasey, if u use a NIC - u don't need drivers for modem
[10:26] <Jasey> NIC?
[10:26] <Frogzoo> lucia_engel: check applications -> sound -> volume control - check for mute on
[10:27] <monsterb> Network Card
[10:27] <Steil> Does anyone know how to setup evolution to use an online calendar? (e.g. google calendar)
[10:27] <Jasey> no i dont have one of those
[10:27] <Frogzoo> lucia_engel: also, check both devices - under 'file'
[10:27] <monsterb> Jasey, USB Modem?
[10:27] <Jasey> yeh
[10:27] <Jasey> ((((( xopher )))))) Dynalink ALE-something lol
[10:28] <monsterb> Most modem can use both.
[10:28] <lene> Hi! How can i install "Scriber"? I have some problems with it..
[10:28] <Stork> what's the best software for ripping a dvd film into a .avi file?
[10:28] <graveson> how can i figure out what is using my sound device - /dev/dsp
[10:28] <Jasey> dont worry guys i found a way
[10:28] <mlowe> my install didnt create /etc/fstab left it unconfigured, how to fix ?
[10:29] <lucia_engel> For both devices, all of them are on
[10:29] <Frogzoo> mlowe: if fstab wasn't written, then it's doubtful your install ran correctly
[10:30] <riomerc> hi
[10:30] <mlowe> Frogzoo, x runs fine, i would rather just put entries in by hand now
[10:31] <Frogzoo> mlowe: iow - fstab is there, just missing some entries?
[10:31] <riomerc> does anyone here run starcraft on linux using WINE? because my question is sc on (Ubuntu) related
[10:31] <mlowe> no just comment at top saying nonconfigured
[10:31] <mlowe> i need proc/swap/partitions ?
[10:31] <monsterb> Jasey, what version are u using? 5.10
[10:31] <Frogzoo> riomerc: don't run sc, but generally best to check winehq's appdb
[10:31] <mlowe> 5.1
[10:31] <Jasey> yeah breezy badger
[10:32] <mlowe> not sure how i did this ;)
[10:32] <monsterb> ok
[10:32] <riomerc> Frogzoo: Ok, i'll check, thx
[10:32] <mlowe> everything on single partition
[10:32] <Frogzoo> mlowe: /etc/fstab - if it's not there, linux won't boot
[10:32] <mlowe> it booted just fine ;)
[10:33] <mlowe> really
[10:33] <Stork> what's the best software for ripping a dvd film into a .avi file?
[10:33] <mlowe> grub gave it root partion ....
[10:33] <Frogzoo> mlowe: well don't reboot until you have a valid /etc/fstab ;)
[10:33] <mlowe> rebot fine also
[10:33] <Frogzoo> mlowe: doesn't compute
[10:34] <lucia_engel> Frogzoo: anything else I can check? I've tried following the howto guides on ubuntuforum but sound still doesn't work
[10:34] <mlowe> I telling you it works somehow
[10:35] <TraceGreen> Hello, i know captive can help me write in NTFS, does linux have other such routine to help me to write to ntfs in linux?
[10:36] <thoreauputic> !captive
[10:36] <ubotu> I heard captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[10:36] <DBO> TraceGreen, yes, there are other projects, no they are not safe for usage...
[10:36] <ompaul> TraceGreen, no, because that platform is full of lockin and the spec is not open, I do believe that some people are working on a solution, but then the length of a piece of string is similar to the depth of a hole :-)
[10:36] <Frogzoo> mlowe: pastebin output of 'mount'
[10:37] <spikeb> heh pastebin has been googled
[10:37] <spikeb> turned into a verb :)
[10:37] <Madpilot> spikeb, Xeroxed,  you mean :P
[10:37] <spikeb> haha
[10:37] <spikeb> indeed Madpilot
[10:38] <Frogzoo> lucia_engel: you correctly configured your app? maybe try something different just to check, eg play a cd
[10:38] <mlowe> doing so now
[10:38] <spikeb> the fact that i'm old enough to understand that joke makes me feel old
[10:38] <spikeb> even though i'm only 24
[10:39] <mlowe> its there
[10:39] <NewbieBoy> guy... what's the command to check the space of my hdd?
[10:39] <Frogzoo> Madpilot: see your xerox, & raise you 'roneoed'
[10:39] <spikeb> haha thoreauputic
[10:40] <Madpilot> Frogzoo, what?
[10:40] <Frogzoo> Madpilot: true roneo = xerox
[10:40] <TraceGreen> DBO, thanks very much. I once tried captive, but it seems not stable.
[10:40] <mlowe> test
[10:40] <Madpilot> Frogzoo, well before my time, I guess :P
[10:40] <DBO> TraceGreen, Im not sure about other options, but http://www.linux-ntfs.org/ is an ongoing project as well... I do not believe it has a release for debian based systems though
[10:41] <Jasey> i found what most people use for the correct driver of my ADSL USB modem on a ubuntuforum. however, when i go to download, theres all these versions and im not sure what to get. http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/download.php which is correct?
[10:41] <lucia_engel> Frogzoo: tried xmms, mplayer, totem, etc. the file plays (no error), but there's no sound
[10:41] <Frogzoo> !captive
[10:41] <ubotu> I heard captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[10:41] <mlowe> xchat froze
[10:41] <spikeb> bbl
[10:41] <hiboss1> hello
[10:41] <Jasey> aww
[10:41] <Jasey> hey
[10:41] <hiboss1> I have a first time in here!
[10:42] <Frogzoo> lucia_engel: tried a reboot?
[10:42] <mlowe> can anyone see this
[10:42] <mlowe> never mind
[10:42] <riomerc> hello
[10:42] <mlowe> paste is up
[10:42] <riomerc> erm
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> Jasey: Debian i386 if you are using non 64-bit processor -- like a pentium 4, etc.
[10:43] <Jasey> ah ok thanks
[10:43] <Frogzoo> mlowe: paste the url back here, so we can find it
[10:43] <Jasey> thats what i guessed and got
[10:43] <riomerc> Does anyone here run Starcraft on ubuntu with WINE?
[10:43] <riomerc> because I can't seem to connect to battle.net
[10:43] <lucia_engel> Frogzoo: ya, it used to work after a reboot if i had trouble, now it doesn't
[10:43] <Frogzoo> riomerc: no luck with appdb? best then to try #winehq
[10:43] <mlowe> okee, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12428
[10:43] <riomerc> Ok
[10:44] <riomerc> #winehq
[10:44] <riomerc> oops
[10:44] <monsterb> Jasey, there is a deb made for Ubuntu EciAdsl https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+package/eciadsl
[10:44] <Jasey> ooh thank you
[10:45] <mlowe> oh, i know where the priblem maybe, grub was already installed, so i didnt do a grub install when i ran install
[10:46] <xopher> mlowe, sure
[10:46] <mlowe> should still creat a sane /etc/fstab !!
[10:46] <monsterb> Jasey, goodnight and have fun with Ubuntu
[10:46] <riomerc> Frogzoo, Noone appears to be at #winehq
[10:46] <Jasey> thanks monsterb
[10:46] <Jasey> thanks for all your help
[10:46] <monsterb> No Problem - bye
[10:46] <Jasey> byeeeee
[10:47] <riomerc> nvm, someone responded
[10:48] <graveson> how can i figure out what is using my sound device - /dev/dsp
[10:48] <Frogzoo> riomerc: it can be slow sometimes
[10:48] <riomerc> ya, someone's there now
[10:48] <Frogzoo> mlowe: added a line you can put into fstab (change if /'s not /dev/hda3)
[10:49] <Frogzoo> mlowe: you have just the one partition? ie everything's under /
[10:49] <mlowe> Frogzoo, I can do most of this myself
[10:49] <mlowe> yes everything under /
[10:49] <mlowe> 1 umuntu partition
[10:50] <Frogzoo> mlowe: so check your pastebin, & add that line to /etc/fstab - but modify for your / partition
[10:53] <mlowe> Frogzoo, I dont see you line ?
[10:53] <thoreauputic> graveson: rather than doing that, could you say what the problem/symptoms are ?
[10:53] <graveson> i am having problems streaming audio and video - i have finished the wiki guides for restricted formats already
[10:54] <obscurite> i'm having major NFS issues with my ubuntu server. anyknow know where i can get quality NFS advice?
[10:54] <techmanila> repository please
[10:55] <fyrestrtr> obscurite: major problems as a NFS client or server?
[10:55] <thoreauputic> obscurite:  http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/NFS-HOWTO/   <-- quite helpful
[10:55] <obscurite> fyrestrtr - getting RPC timeouts when i try to mount exports. can't tell what side it's on
[10:56] <obscurite> fyresrtr - but sometimes it works great
[10:56] <Frogzoo> mlowe: shift refresh?
[10:56] <obscurite> thoreauputic - thanks
[10:56] <mlowe> Frogzoo, can i dccp you ?
[10:56] <Frogzoo> mlowe: soz, dccp makes me nervous
[10:57] <mlowe> shift refresh in firefox ?
[10:57] <Frogzoo> mlowe: yep
[10:57] <FlannelKing> hold shift, hit refresh.  reads from the page instead of the cache.
[10:57] <thoreauputic> obscurite: ps aux | grep rpc
[10:57] <thoreauputic>    <-- rpc.mountd running?
[10:58] <mlowe> i still see nothing of your paste ?
[10:58] <Frogzoo> mlowe: soz, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12430
[10:58] <mlowe> never mind
[10:58] <thoreauputic> graveson: still kind of vague - do you have error messages or anything definite?
[10:59] <graveson> no error messages i can show you a screenshot on pastebin-hang on
[10:59] <obscurite> theoreauputic - mountd is running
[10:59] <obscurite> theoreauputic - it works well for one client. when i try with others i start to get the rpc timeouts
[10:59] <thoreauputic> graveson: also what method are you using? mplayer? totem-xine with plugins? ?
[11:00] <mlowe> ok, i did mount -a, and then mount, paste is there
[11:01] <graveson> thoreauputic: using mozilla 1.0.7 with mozilla-mplayer
[11:01] <thoreauputic> graveson: did you disable the totem plugins?
[11:01] <sfar> how can i find out if i have "VIA Linux Audio Driver" or "Combo Audio Device Driver" loaded?
[11:01] <thoreauputic> graveson: I think you might need to do that ( I don't use mplayer here)
[11:02] <sfar> i think i have one of those installed.. but i want to try the other because the sound is crappy
[11:02] <mlowe> gonna reboot , i will be back 3 mins
[11:02] <thoreauputic> twidget: turn off your away script if you're awake
[11:03] <NewbieBoy> thoreauputic, i installed IE4linux not thru synaptics... how can i uninstall this?
[11:03] <graveson> thoreauputic: 1) how would i disable the totem plugins and secondly can give me a rundown of your setup
[11:03] <thoreauputic> NewbieBoy: I have no idea, sorry
[11:03] <NewbieBoy> ok thanks
[11:04] <NewbieBoy> [C] hris, i installed ie4linux not thru synaptic and i want it uninstalled because it hangs... how can i uninstall it?
[11:04] <thoreauputic> graveson: rename /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libtotem*   <-- the plugins
[11:04] <thoreauputic> graveson: my setup is just totem-xine and the default plugins
[11:05] <thoreauputic> graveson: but I'm on dialup so I only use streaming sound atm
[11:05] <CaptainMorgan> any plans to improve wireless soon?
[11:05] <jenda> what is the program for .svg files?
[11:05] <Seveas> jenda, firefox or inkscape
[11:05] <jenda> CaptainMorgan: Should be a lot better in Dapper, I think
[11:06] <jenda> Seveas: editing. Inkscape?
[11:06] <CaptainMorgan> jenda, why do you say that?
[11:06] <Frogzoo> CaptainMorgan: dapper
[11:06] <jenda> Seveas: Is it FLOSS?
[11:06] <mlowe> i am back, after reboot, i added a line for swap also
[11:06] <jenda> CaptainMorgan: err... I think I heard that said before.
[11:06] <Seveas> jenda, apt-get install inkscape 
[11:07] <Seveas> !info inkscape
[11:07] <ubotu> inkscape: (vector-based drawing program), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.42-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 5794 kB, Installed size: 24168 kB
[11:07] <CaptainMorgan> sure would be great... right now it's the primary thing standing my way of 100% full-time use of Linux..
[11:07] <jenda> Seveas: Ok, thanks 
[11:07] <jenda> Seveas: you don't have a copyright on that smiley, or anything, do you? ,
[11:08] <sfar> how can i find out if i have "VIA Linux Audio Driver" or "Combo Audio Device Driver" loaded? i think i have one of those installed.. but i want to try the other because the sound is crappy
[11:08] <Hobbsee_away> CaptainMorgan: network-manager should make wireless a lot nicer
[11:08] <CaptainMorgan> Hobbsee_away, I assume that's coming up in Dapper?
[11:08] <Frogzoo> sfar: check /var/log/messages or lsmod if you know the module name
[11:09] <mlowe> Frogzoo, you still here ?
[11:09] <thoreauputic> sfar:  lsmod | grep snd  <-- lists loaded snd drivers/modules
[11:09] <Frogzoo> mlowe: yup, how'd you do? mount show / now?
[11:09] <graveson> thoreauputic: ok let me give that a try
[11:09] <mlowe> nope still same tmpfs
[11:09] <graveson> thoreauputic: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12433 - it just sits there streaming forever
[11:10] <Frogzoo> mlowe: um, yes, you need to mount the hd somewhere b4 you write /etc/fstab - otherwise you're writing to the tmpfs
[11:10] <CaptainMorgan> !dapper
[11:10] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[11:10] <NewbieBoy> how can i delete a directory?
[11:11] <Frogzoo> NewbieBoy: rm -rf dirname
[11:11] <NewbieBoy> thanks
[11:11] <mantono> NewbieBoy: rm -r directory
[11:11] <mlowe> oh wait it did get root
[11:11] <Frogzoo> NewbieBoy: or just rmdir dirname (only works on empty dirs)
[11:11] <mlowe> and i added a swap line
[11:11] <DBO> that message was very subliminal
[11:11] <Frogzoo> mlowe: swap should show in swapon -s
[11:12] <mendred> hi
[11:12] <mlowe> there should be entry in fstab ?
[11:12] <mlowe> there used to be !
[11:12] <mendred> is there any way i can load an usb external hard disk in a specific folder
[11:12] <Frogzoo> mlowe: yes, something like "/dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0"
[11:12] <CaptainMorgan> how are these great people that produce this funded?? curious..
[11:12] <DBO> mendred, just change its mount point to be whatever folder you like
[11:13] <mendred> DBO: its automatically loaded when i plug it in to /media/sda1
[11:13] <DBO> CaptainMorgan, with hopes and dreams mostly
[11:13] <Madpilot> CaptainMorgan, Mark Shuttleworth has vast amounts of money :P
[11:13] <DBO> mendred, you will have to edit your /etc/fstab
[11:14] <DBO> CAUTION!!! Make a backup of /etc/fstab before doing an editing
[11:14] <Frogzoo> DBO: usb is run by hotplug - which ignores fstab
[11:14] <DBO> oh right...
[11:14] <DBO> well
[11:14] <mendred> Frogzoo: any idea how to do this?
[11:14] <DBO> you COULD turn off hotplug
[11:14] <DBO> at least, thats what I do
[11:15] <mendred> hmmm, also is it possible to handle only a specific hdd? as in identify by volume name?
[11:15] <[PoVal] Dutchy> whaha upgrading to dapper wtfpwned the internet and xorg configuration :> i think ill reinstall, cba to fix this lol
[11:15] <mlowe> Frogzoo, can you paste your fstab to pastebin so i can get rest of info for proc, .......
[11:15] <mendred> DBA: see i use this hdd for storing my stuff, and have symlinks in my home folder
[11:16] <Frogzoo> mlowe: "proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0"
[11:16] <NewbieBoy> Frogzoo, can u suggest a website where i can view ubuntu command lines? thanks.
[11:16] <mendred> DBA: so if it doesn't load in the same place..my symlinks go for a toss
[11:16] <Frogzoo> !docs
[11:16] <ubotu> docs is, like, totally, an index of documentation on the Ubuntu Wiki - you can find it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[11:16] <Madpilot> !+cli
[11:16] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[11:17] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell NewbieBoy about cli
[11:17] <Madpilot> NewbieBoy, see above ^^^
[11:17] <mlowe> ok, 1 more reboot
[11:17] <mlowe> brb
[11:19] <mendred> is there any way to make it load into a folder named after its volume name?
[11:19] <mendred> say if partition is labelled stuff
[11:19] <mendred> then it should automatically make /media/stuff
[11:19] <DBO> mmmm, I dont know how hotplug works, I normally have it disabled...
[11:19] <mendred> hmmm k..
[11:20] <thoreauputic> mendred: never done it, but I think you need to google "udev rules"
[11:21] <thoreauputic> I think you can assign labels etc using udev
[11:21] <Naurizo> hey
[11:21] <Naurizo> how to mount ntfs with all permitions under ubuntu?
[11:21] <thoreauputic> !mountwindows
[11:21] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:21] <FlannelKing> Naurizo: you can't write NTFS
[11:21] <DBO> Naurizo, if you mean so you can write to it, well, short story, you cant
[11:22] <thoreauputic> Naurizo: but you can only read from ntfs
[11:22] <Naurizo> okay
[11:22] <[PoVal] Dutchy> sucks pretty much doesnt it :>
[11:22] <Naurizo> what should i do with discmounter file?
[11:23] <thoreauputic> [PoVal] Dutchy: blame MS for not releasing ntfs specs
[11:23] <FlannelKing> Naurizo: it gives instructions at the top
[11:23] <[PoVal] Dutchy> yeah MS sucks
[11:24] <Madpilot> later, all
[11:25] <webwolf_27> I can't get a better resolution then 640x480 although there is nothing less then 1024x786 in xorg.conf!
[11:25] <thoreauputic> !fixres
[11:25] <ubotu> [fixres]  Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:26] <webwolf_27> thank you#
[11:26] <thoreauputic> webwolf_27: np ;)
[11:26] <mlowe> Frogzoo, now running knoppix to fsck the partitions
[11:27] <Naurizo> oki, i installed discmounter
[11:27] <Naurizo> where should i find my drive?
[11:27] <Naurizo> mounted one
[11:27] <GTroy> how do you run a perl script?
[11:27] <Naurizo> through terminal
[11:27] <GTroy> from a txt file
[11:27] <sethk> GTroy, either by it's name, or with  perl /script/file/name
[11:27] <GTroy> can I drag and drop?
[11:27] <mlowe> GTroy, perl perlfilename
[11:27] <GTroy> to terminal?
[11:28] <sethk> GTroy, you can in kde, I believe, but what a PITA compared to typing one line
[11:28] <GTroy> mlowe: makes sense to me to do it that way
[11:29] <GTroy> and what if this perl script is just a txt?
[11:30] <sfar> well.. perl scripts is text-files
[11:30] <GTroy> hmm ok
[11:30] <sfar> chmod +x filename <- will make it executeable
[11:30] <sfar> i think
[11:30] <mlowe> GTroy, 1st line should be "#!/usr/bin/perl"
[11:30] <FlannelKing> yay shebangs
[11:30] <sethk> make sure perl is installed
[11:31] <GTroy> ok forgot about that little point
[11:32] <martin> Hi guys. How do I make Ubuntu boot into console mode without coming with a graphical login screen by default? I would like to start off from console to log in and if I want a GUI I would like to just use startx
[11:32] <obscurite> the weird thing about my NFS is that sometimes I can mount my exports, sometimes i can't. it's kind of random.
[11:32] <Frogzoo> martin: choose recovery mode from the grub prompt
[11:32] <ph8> hi guys, i'm having problems installing extensions (as are a few others), detailed at this link -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=152753&highlight=firefox
[11:32] <ph8> martin: If you want to do it all the time, change your runlevel
[11:32] <DBO> night all
[11:32] <mendred> DBO :thanks i found this guide for using udev
[11:33] <Frogzoo> martin: that's for terminal access, but for regular use, you'd want to disable gdm from the init scripts
[11:33] <karim> martin, disable X server in gdmsetup
[11:33] <ph8> can anyone help me with those firefox issues?
[11:33] <mendred> DBO: i think it should solve my issue
[11:33] <DBO> cool... point me to it will ya?
[11:33] <ph8> shouldn't you change your runlevel guys?
[11:33] <martin> How do I disable GDM from startup?
[11:33] <ph8> i thought 3 was meant to be for graphical, 4 for terminal
[11:33] <ph8> or something like that
[11:33] <karim> ph8, shouldn't
[11:33] <ph8> martin: download sysv-rc-conf
[11:33] <DBO> ph8, this is debian
[11:33] <Frogzoo> ph8: different in ubuntu - default runlevel is 2
[11:33] <karim> ph8, no he just have to not run a X server in gdmsetup
[11:34] <ph8> ok then :)
[11:34] <sethk> ph8, several distros use 3 for graphical, but there is nostandard
[11:34] <sethk> ph8, you can easily change it to work that way if you like
[11:34] <martin> Ok... how? :D
[11:34] <ph8> i just ctrl+alt it :)
[11:34] <karim> Marticus, don't disable it, I say disable X server in gdmsetup
[11:34] <DBO> ph8, most distros use 5 for graphical, at least the big ones other than debian
[11:34] <ph8> yeh, ignore me martin :)
[11:34] <martin> lol
[11:34] <karim> martin, , don't disable it, I say disable X server in gdmsetup
[11:34] <ph8> now, does anyone else have issues with a as-new firefox install from the repo?
[11:35] <martin> Ok... again how? I'm very n00bish when it comes to these things
[11:35] <ph8> run gdmsetup?
[11:35] <thoreauputic> to permanently start in tty mode, do  echo "false" | sudo tee /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[11:35] <karim> I have a problem with firestarter, it blocks outbound connections :-/
[11:35] <Frogzoo> ph8: 1.0.7 can have 'issues' really 1.5 is much nicer
[11:35] <ph8> so i should install from source?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> the wiki is now set for 1.5.0.2
[11:35] <DBO> !FF1.5
[11:35] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:35] <DBO> =)
[11:36] <ompaul> Martin install "bum" use it to turn off gdm from startup, however .... you will have to remember "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" to restart it :-) then kick it fulltime with bum iirc
[11:36] <ph8> ty :p
[11:36] <Frogzoo> !tell ph8 about ff1.5
[11:36] <martin> gonna try sudo gdm to see if that works
[11:36] <rupert> hi, can someone help me with the cryptab and a luks encrypted home??
[11:36] <thoreauputic> ompaul: my solution does it in one line ;)
[11:37] <ompaul> thoreauputic, your right (again)
[11:37] <DBO> thoreauputic, why not disable gdm with update-rc.d?
[11:37] <thoreauputic> ompaul: heheh - Bum is a nicer way I guess (more reversible without CLI)
[11:37] <thoreauputic> DBO: that works too
[11:38] <ompaul> thoreauputic, backup the existing first ;-)
[11:38] <thoreauputic> DBO: the file I mentioned only contains /usr/sbin/gdm from memory
[11:38] <martin> Hmmm. The gdmsetup thingy didn't seem to do the trick
[11:38] <Frogzoo> thoreauputic: doesn't exist on my breezy box
[11:39] <ompaul> martain when done you do ctrl + alt + backspace and it dies
[11:39] <thoreauputic> Frogzoo: yes it does
[11:39] <thoreauputic> Frogzoo:  /etc/X11/default-display-manager  <-- notice capital X
[11:39] <DBO> mmm, come to think of it, its not on my box either
[11:40] <DBO> and yes, I did notice the capital X
[11:40] <thoreauputic> Frogzoo: unless you use KDM perhaps
[11:40] <thoreauputic> $ cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[11:40] <thoreauputic> /usr/sbin/gdm
[11:40] <ompaul> thoreauputic, it should hold kdm xdm and gdm
[11:40] <Frogzoo> thoreauputic: nope, gnome (breezy) here
[11:40] <thoreauputic> ompaul: I would have thought so
[11:41] <thoreauputic> Frogzoo: bizarre - see cat output above on breezy
[11:41] <DBO> thoreauputic, yeap, I have a fairly fresh install of breezy
[11:41] <DBO> no such file
[11:41] <thoreauputic> weird
[11:41] <DBO> and by fresh, I mean within the past 2 days...
[11:41] <DBO> I think your way no worky =P
[11:41] <Frogzoo> thoreauputic: do you have another wm installed apart from gnome?
[11:41] <thoreauputic> DBO: well, it works here
[11:41] <rupert> which is the default encryption method that cryptsetup with LUKS uses?
[11:41] <thoreauputic> Frogzoo: several
[11:41] <DBO> thoreauputic, I think that gets installed if you have a second WM
[11:42] <DBO> (erm, created)
[11:42] <thoreauputic> DBO: hmm - why would gdm be associated with extra WMs ?
[11:42] <martin> I hate the fact that the GUI starts by itself. I want that to be an option
[11:42] <ompaul> install "bum" use it to turn off gdm from startup, however .... you will have to remember "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" to restart it then kick it fulltime with bum iirc
[11:42] <thoreauputic> you may be right but I don't see why that would happen
[11:43] <ompaul> Martin do what i suggest there and use startx on the command line to get it to go
[11:43] <DBO> thoreauputic, I meant if you install KDE or somesuch
[11:43] <DBO> since then it needs a defaults file
[11:43] <DBO> yes... 5:43 AM logic is poor
[11:43] <DBO> who are you again?
[11:43] <Frogzoo> martin: so create yourself a rl 5 & add another grub line to boot with/without X
[11:43] <thoreauputic> DBO: ah - maybe only if you have two *dm s - maybe you are right then
[11:44] <martin> Doing a a sudo apt-install bum now
[11:44] <lezouave> #fr-ubuntu
[11:44] <DBO> hmmm, thats not a bad idea Frogzoo, not a bad idea at all, I think I will do it
[11:44] <thoreauputic> lezouave:  /join #ubuntu-fr
[11:45] <Richew> how can i make /dev/sda1 writable?..
[11:45] <DBO> Richew, what kind of FS?
[11:46] <Richew> usb flash disk
[11:46] <martin> Nice program by the way, the BootUpManager :D
[11:46] <obscurite> WOOHOOO, /etc/init.d/mountnfs.sh restart seems to have solved my nfs problems. for now.
[11:46] <DBO> I wasnt going to make the same mistake twice ompaul
[11:47] <GTroy_> crimsun: have you got a moment?
[11:47] <GTroy_> crimsun: never midn
[11:47] <GTroy_> problem solved
[11:47] <martin> ompaul: if I disable GDM from startup with BUM, can I still login to the GUI by just typing startx?
[11:47] <[C] hris> what program can i use for snooping n oother users
[11:47] <Richew> DBO: USB flash disk
[11:48] <spikeb> what the bloody heck is bum?
[11:48] <obscurite> richew - if it's not already mounted, mount -t fat16 -o rw /dev/sda1 flash/
[11:48] <martin> BootUpManager
[11:48] <mythicness> hi all
[11:48] <spikeb> oh
[11:48] <Frogzoo> [C] hris: that's not exactly legal you realise
[11:48] <DBO> martin, you would do better to type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[11:48] <GTroy_> [C] hris: ethereal
[11:48] <mythicness> i just installed lirc, but it doesnt seem to be working
[11:48] <[C] hris> no i mean like to see what remote ppl are doing n omy box
[11:48] <ompaul> martin, no you will log into a terminal and then as DBO points out^^ but if it stays on - you are looking for cake an eating it :)
[11:48] <mythicness> "I couldn't load the required kernel modules  You should install lirc-modules-source to build kernel support for your hardware."
[11:48] <[C] hris> that should be leg
[11:48] <[C] hris> legal
[11:49] <[C] hris> ethereal wont show me what ppl are doing in terminal
[11:49] <dotdashandy> are the kernel names used by Ubuntu the same throughout all distros? like if i sudo apt-get amd64-generic on my debian installation (waiting for my Ubuntu disks) will it do what i expect?
[11:49] <GTroy_> it's linux, prolly only you are doing anything
[11:49] <DBO> Richew, that is managed by hotplug, i believe there is a security setting somewhere that handles the default umask...  I dont know... ompaul stole my enter key
[11:49] <spikeb> brb
[11:50] <GTroy_> no one else is root [C] hris
[11:50] <TraceGreen> Hello, when i try to mount /dev/hdc to /cdrom. I don't find my /dev/hdc, i compile kernel myself.
[11:50] <ompaul> DBO so now I get the blame if the world is flat?
[11:50] <DBO> ompaul, that and EVERYTHING else
[11:51] <Richew> hotplug works well w/ ubuntu i think.. how can i install ubuntu-desktop back and replace xubuntu?
[11:51] <kauhu> 82.143.160.165
[11:51] <[PoVal] Dutchy> the world is flat
[11:51] <DBO> ompaul, =)
[11:51] <[PoVal] Dutchy> you're just all still in denial
[11:52] <Frogzoo> [PoVal] Dutchy: only in a cartesian system :p
[11:52] <Richew> how can i install gnome desktop (ubuntu) from a xubuntu desktop
[11:52] <ompaul> Frogzoo, has that got a point?
[11:52] <[PoVal] Dutchy> its flat. dont doubt it, dont ask questions
[11:52] <DBO> Richew, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[11:53] <alex___> hi, I have just upgrade to breezy and have a few comment, the 'open a terminal' menu under the right click is cruely missing, also on my laptop, after a while the screen saver stop to show up and I have no other choice than to reboot my computer the dirty way (ie, to pull the power lead out) to restart ubuntu!
[11:53] <obscurite> Okay, now that I NFS is actually working, unmounting is taking forever... sigh
[11:53] <Richew> DBO: how can i uninstall xubuntu?
[11:53] <Frogzoo> obscurite: yes, because nfs wants to flush buffers before it unmounts
[11:53] <DBO> Richew, "sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop"
[11:54] <Richew> ok
[11:54] <PwcrLinux> alex__: It's in the Application/Accessaries for the terminal box
[11:54] <obscurite> Frogzoo - I mean retry message after retry message during shutdown
[11:54] <DBO> actually, that will just remove the meta-package wont it?
[11:54] <alex___> PwcrLinux: yes I found it, still why has it been erased from the right click menu ???
[11:56] <thoreauputic> install nautilus-open-terminal
[11:56] <thoreauputic> for a right click terminal choice
[11:56] <PwcrLinux> Yea, that's one
[11:59] <alex___> cool
[12:01] <zugu> Hi all.
[12:01] <zugu> d a "lock" emblem. I soon found out that it was the same as when copying files from a CD in Windows, they keep the read-only attribute that they had on the CD.
 However, after five trouble-less minutes, I was suddenly unable to copy files from the ISO. The system reported something like: "I/O Error: Unable to read file.". I was able though, to browse through the ISO file, but all the files were 0 bytes long. So I checked my USB drive (as the ISO was mounted from there). There was nothing wrong with it. I "umounted" the ISO, copied it to my desktop and mounted it again. Ta-da: I could copy files from the ISO again. 
 I am desperate. Why does Ubuntu does this to me?
[12:01] <zugu> sorry, this was a wrong paste :)
[12:01] <zugu> the correct text comes here:
[12:01] <zugu> Yesterday I tried to mount an ISO file:
[12:01] <zugu> mkdir /mnt/iso
[12:01] <zugu> sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt/iso/
[12:01] <zugu> I started pasting files from the ISO onto my desktop. The file icons had a "lock" emblem. I soon found out that it was the same as when copying files from a CD in Windows, they keep the read-only attribute that they had on the CD.
[12:01] <zugu> However, after five trouble-less minutes, I was suddenly unable to copy files from the ISO. The system reported something like: "I/O Error: Unable to read file.". I was able though, to browse through the ISO file, but all the files were 0 bytes long. So I checked my USB drive (as the ISO was mounted from there). There was nothing wrong with it. I "umounted" the ISO, copied it to my desktop and mounted it again. Ta-da: I could copy files from the ISO again. But not
[12:01] <zugu> I am desperate. Why does Ubuntu does this to me?
[12:01] <ompaul> zugu, Stop pasteing
[12:02] <zugu> ompaul: i wanted to paste just once, but my clipboard messed up
[12:02] <ompaul> put that in paste.ubuntu-nl.org  and ask again
[12:02] <ompaul> in a few minutes if anyone does not say in the interim
[12:02] <zugu> ompaul: thank you for the info
[12:03] <dotdashandy> thank god for ShipIt
[12:03] <GTroy_> !flash
[12:03] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:04] <PwcrLinux> Oh, my mouse kept dragging at all time so I have to hit the esc key to cancel drags, how I need disabling the drags?
[12:04] <GTroy_> what if macromedia isn't uploading?
[12:04] <DBO> GTroy_, once more with clarity?
[12:04] <GTroy_> I go to install flashplayer
[12:05] <DBO> ok, well done, what happens next?
[12:05] <GTroy_> and the macromedia site won't upload anything
[12:05] <DBO> you mean download?
[12:05] <GTroy_> right
[12:05] <GTroy_> http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[12:05] <kai_> hello
[12:05] <GTroy_> try to download, tell me if you can
[12:06] <kai_> anyone here
[12:06] <kai_> pls say hello
[12:06] <GTroy_> ask a question
[12:06] <DBO> GTroy_, works fine for me
[12:06] <DBO> GTroy_, try "sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla"
[12:06] <GTroy_> hmm strange
[12:06] <GTroy_> ok will do
[12:07] <Chri[s] > hi
[12:07] <DBO> hello kai_, what is your problem?
[12:07] <kai_> hi,DBO,
[12:07] <kai_> my ubuntu
[12:07] <kai_> can not run samba
[12:08] <kai_> i mean
[12:08] <GTroy_> thanks DBO done
[12:08] <DBO> kai_, try to get this all on one line please
[12:08] <bliss1_> hi
[12:08] <DBO> GTroy_, does it work?
[12:08] <DBO> hi bliss1_
[12:08] <kai_> i can not find ok
[12:08] <DBO> kai_, what is your native language?
[12:08] <bliss1_> DBO: fiund a soultion!
[12:08] <bliss1_> found
[12:08] <GTroy_> DBO: no
[12:08] <kai_> german
[12:08] <PwcrLinux> DBO or thoreauputic : How I can disable the mouse "drag" to avoid dragging (picked and drags), so I have to keep hit esc key to cancel the drag in the FF browser..
[12:08] <ompaul> !de
[12:09] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[12:09] <captainredbeard> Is there a program similar to MSPaint for ubuntu? Preferably for KDE?
[12:09] <thoreauputic> PwcrLinux: I don't understand, sorry
[12:09] <nonix4> Is there a decent mouse emulation pkg for ubuntu available? (Don't have a mouse for the time being)
[12:09] <GTroy_> sorry DBO forgot to restart firefox
[12:10] <PwcrLinux> thoreauputic: okay
[12:10] <PwcrLinux> I'll ask someone
[12:11] <Frogzoo> captainredbeard: there's gimp
[12:11] <captainredbeard> Frogzoo: Thats alot of overkill for what I want to do, Just simple shapes
[12:11] <MistaED> kpaint wasn't there?
[12:11] <bliss1_> DBO: what it is is a gz file with a dsdt.dls  file inside from the APCI sourseforge web site
[12:11] <DBO> Frogzoo, no offense, but the gimp is to mspain what a mercedes is to a shopping card =P
[12:11] <DBO> cart*
[12:11] <Hobbsee_away> CaptainMorgan: it's in dapper now
[12:11] <bliss1_> DBO: its for my labtop
[12:11] <orbin> captainredbeard: kolourpaint
[12:11] <ompaul> PwcrLinux, ctrl and drag - but really I don't understand the question, I think this is what you want
[12:12] <captainredbeard> thanks orbin
[12:12] <ompaul> Hobbsee, I still have my whiteboard entry
[12:12] <Hobbsee> ompaul: hmmm?
[12:12] <orbin> and there's gpaint for gnome users
[12:12] <bliss1_> ompaul: hi niceday hey
[12:12] <bliss1_> DBO: is it good news or what!
[12:13] <Hobbsee> hehe - i thought that'd be cd /home/hobbsee/brain
[12:13] <PwcrLinux> ompaul: My mouse too sentientive (sp?) when I clicked the links or icon, it's picked and dragging. I didn't like it and hit a esc key to cancel drags..
[12:13] <ompaul> bliss1_, not great 10oC windows and
[12:14] <DBO> bliss1_, you'll have to excuse me, my brain is the broke... its 6AM and all
[12:14] <GTroy_> even the macromedia mirror is down for me
[12:14] <ompaul> PwcrLinux, as I said no idea other than ctrl and drag
[12:14] <bliss1_> DBO: o yee sorry 6AM
[12:14] <karim> I didn't found how to enable everything from the LAN with firestarter to the firewall
[12:14] <DBO> GTroy_, "wget http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz"
[12:14] <PwcrLinux> ompaul: already, I'll ask other ppls since you don't understand my messages..
[12:15] <PwcrLinux> already=alright
[12:15] <karim> for exemple I needed to enable DNS port to the lan
[12:15] <karim> I want everything
[12:15] <bliss1_> DBO: anyway found the soultion just need to know how to install the baby
[12:15] <GTroy_> DBO: this might be overkill, could you download the file from the site and dcc it to me? http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[12:16] <DBO> yeah, let me hack in the rootkit really fast... I mean optimize it for... speed and usabilty
[12:16] <ompaul> PwcrLinux, that is not standard behaviour, have you accessability stuff turned on?
[12:16] <bliss1_> anyone know how to install a dsdt.dlsl file?
[12:16] <DBO> GTroy_, actually I cant, Im piping this through an SSH session, and it wont play nice with DCC
[12:16] <GTroy_> ok
[12:16] <bliss1_> dsdt.dsl
[12:17] <PwcrLinux> ompaul: my accessiblity isn't on yet..
[12:18] <ompaul> PwcrLinux, check it by using an external mouse if it works okay with that find a faq on synaptic keypad
[12:19] <PwcrLinux> ompaul: Yea, prolly the dapper might have a extra options for mousepad and mouse settings..
[12:19] <netman1> Hi All. Using Breezy, fsck-ed up while adding ldap, lost a useraccount: under what username does the dbus-daemon --system usually run and what are the passwd and group entries for this user?
[12:20] <Omeg> Hi all
[12:20] <DBO> Hi
[12:20] <pebs> hi
[12:20] <Omeg> I've got a general Linux question. I just downloaded what is supposed to be a demo of Sim City 3000 for Linux, but after extracting the .gz, it seems that I have a .run file.
[12:21] <Omeg> It's about 180 MB in size and I don't know what to do with it.
[12:21] <DBO> hmmmm, my guess, sh /path/to/*.run
[12:22] <spikeb> sh frank.run
[12:22] <spikeb> for example
[12:22] <netman1> Omeg: to check you could do "file .run-file"
[12:22] <Toma-> ive got a problem encoding a movie. ive got an ASF file thats encoded the 'windows' way and works great on my PMP, but when i try encoding an AVI i cant quite get it to work. Ive got the debugging from both the Proper Movie and a mencoder encoded movie but just cant find out what i need to do. the PMP is ment to support AVI, but lacks any documentation on it. Heres the link! Thanks.. http://pastebin.com/664531
[12:22] <orbin> i've got ff1.5.0.1 installed.  how do i go about installing 1.5.0.2?
[12:22] <Omeg> Ah, so I should run it? It tries to open it with gedit by default, but since it's such a huge file, it crashes.
[12:23] <Frogzoo> Omeg: at a guess, 'chmod +x blah.run ; ./blah.run
[12:23] <Omeg> Thanks, I'll just try that first then.
[12:23] <DBO> orbin, you can either run firefox as super user (risky) or chown firefox's directory to your username then use the built in updater
[12:23] <karim> hey
[12:23] <DBO> (then after chown it back to root)
[12:23] <DBO> hey karim
[12:23] <karim> anyone is using firestarter as a gateway ?
[12:23] <PwcrLinux> the .run file should on the CDRom, when you insert the CD into drive, it'll auto-run..
[12:24] <deb-fun> karim, not bad
[12:24] <orbin> DBO: so it only checks for updates when run in say gksudo?
[12:24] <thoreauputic> ******************** News Flash! ***************************************
[12:24] <karim> deb-fun, what ?
[12:24] <ompaul> if you want to talk about XGL/ Dapper the next release or are using it your issues issues should be addressed in the channel #ubuntu+1
[12:24] <ompaul> Thanks for your attention
[12:25] <DBO> awww, that was cute...
[12:25] <deb-fun> karim,  using firestarter as a gateway
[12:25] <thoreauputic> ompaul: heheh - we weren't quite in sync
[12:25] <oskude> hmm, i tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=408055&postcount=5 but when i try "sudo cat /dev/js0" i get "cat: /dev/js0: No such device", but it _is_ there... any ideas ?
[12:25] <Omeg> I can't seem to run the .run file. It says "command not found".
[12:25] <ompaul> it works
[12:25] <DBO> orbin, well that or when you have direct write access to its files
[12:25] <karim> deb-fun, I was using shorewall before, but there is no gui, so I dumped it
[12:25] <spikeb> sh /home/0meg/bob.run says that?
[12:25] <deb-fun> karim, I prefferd firestarter
[12:26] <Omeg> Oh wait, now it works. I didn't use the sh command.
[12:26] <spikeb> hehe
[12:26] <karim> deb-fun,  are you a bot ?
[12:26] <Omeg> Thanks, spikeb :)
[12:26] <oskude> or, has anyone got joystick/gamepad/midi to work through gameport, if yes what soundcard/chip do you have ?
[12:26] <bliss1_> DBO: its no prob I can wait as long as it takes
[12:26] <orbin> DBO: a recursive chown on /opt/firefox?
[12:26] <DBO> orbin, yes, but make sure you chown it back after you are done with the update
[12:26] <DBO> bliss1_, what were we doing?
[12:27] <deb-fun> karim, no
[12:27] <karim> ok
[12:27] <DBO> bliss1_, you will have to show me where you got the file
[12:27] <bliss1_> ok just a sec
[12:27] <orbin> DBO: so after the chown, i run firefox and it should prompt me for an update?
[12:27] <bliss1_> DBO; OK
[12:27] <DBO> orbin, no, you will have to go to Help -> Check for updates...
[12:27] <orbin> DBO: ok, thanks.
[12:28] <oskude> even wikipedia has about gravis gamepad under linux, but it doesnt work neither :( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravis_Gamepad
[12:28] <Toma-> oskude: so, whats the problem?
[12:28] <thoreauputic> DBO: are mozilla.org updates binary patches now? ( i.e. do you have to re-download the whole thing or just changes? )
[12:28] <oskude> Toma, i tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=408055&postcount=5 but when i try "sudo cat /dev/js0" i get "cat: /dev/js0: No such device", but it _is_ there... any ideas ?
[12:28] <riomerc> hello
[12:28] <riomerc> um
[12:28] <DBO> thoreauputic, they are patches
[12:28] <riomerc> I need some hard-drive related help
[12:28] <thoreauputic> DBO: cool - thanks :)
[12:28] <DBO> thoreauputic, no more re-downloading the whole darn thing
[12:29] <thoreauputic> DBO: nice :)
[12:29] <oskude> Toma, ment Toma-
[12:29] <DBO> riomerc, what is your issue?
[12:29] <bliss1_> DBO; http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/index.php
[12:29] <riomerc> I want to know if it's actually possible to create a couple more partritions
[12:29] <DBO> riomerc, if you have free space, otherwise you will need to use gparted
[12:29] <riomerc> yeah
[12:29] <oskude> and the gamepad (and gameport) works under windoze, so both hardwares are ok
[12:29] <riomerc> I have a 160GB HDprobably about 135GB left
[12:30] <DBO> bliss1_, ok... why are you installing this?
[12:30] <DBO> bliss1_, I dont see how this will help your issue
[12:30] <Toma-> oskude: hmmm. what would you run cat over /dev/js0?
[12:30] <riomerc> yeah
[12:30] <riomerc> 132 GBs left
[12:30] <bliss1_> DBO: just a sec fixs ACPI problem
[12:30] <riomerc> :D
[12:30] <riomerc> ok
[12:30] <riomerc> then how would I?
[12:30] <bliss1_> DBO: saw it in the ubuntu labtops url
[12:30] <DBO> riomerc, is it already partitioned?
[12:31] <oskude> Toma-: to test theres some input coming from the gamepad (like said here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Joystick_Setup )
[12:31] <riomerc> I'm reffering to the HD i'm on now
[12:31] <riomerc> :D
[12:31] <riomerc> so yeah
[12:31] <Toma-> oskude: there used to be a program called jstest
[12:31] <riomerc> two ubuntu partitions, the ones it requires
[12:32] <DBO> riomerc, load up gparted, its pretty easy to use
[12:32] <riomerc> ok
[12:32] <riomerc> how?
[12:32] <Toma-> oskude: yes, its in 'joystick' so, "sudo apt-get install joystick" then run 'jstest /dev/js0' to REALLY test your joystick
[12:32] <orbin> DBO: that worked a treat, thanks again.
[12:32] <oskude> Toma-: got "jstest", testing...
[12:33] <DBO> orbin, sure thing
[12:33] <orbin> maybe someone should make a note of the upgrade process on the wiki or ubotu's factoid/s
[12:33] <DBO> orbin, it is noted
[12:33] <oskude> Toma-: hmm, "jstest /dev/js0" gives "jstest: No such device"
[12:33] <Toma-> right.
[12:33] <orbin> oh, guess i missed it.
[12:33] <DBO> bliss1_, oh man you are in for a rough ride if you want to install this one
[12:33] <topyli> riomerc: you can't resize or otherwise mounted partitions
[12:33] <Toma-> oskude: try /dev/input/js0
[12:34] <riomerc> DBO: How do you get gparted?
[12:34] <oskude> Toma-: but im not sure what modules i really need, ubuntuforums and wikipedia gives different modules (and ns558 gives errors on dmesg)
[12:34] <riomerc> topyli: well, that's a fucking waste of HD
[12:34] <oskude> Toma-: /dev/input/js0 gives the same error
[12:34] <DBO> riomerc, "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[12:34] <Toma-> oskude: what soundcard do you have?
[12:34] <riomerc> thx
[12:34] <topyli> riomerc: i.e. if your system is on the partition you wish to reparition, you need to boot into another system
[12:34] <orbin> DBO: guess i need glasses.  found it on the wiki :)
[12:34] <oskude> sis.. something (onboard) using "snd_intel8x0" module
[12:35] <riomerc> DBO: thx
[12:35] <oskude> Toma-: sis.. something (onboard) using "snd_intel8x0" module
[12:35] <nonix4> Hmm... by default "startx" results in an unusable desktop where no window whatsoever will open, while gdm creates functioning one - is there a way to change bpp temporarily for gdm or to make startx actually work? (default install of 5.10)
[12:35] <Toma-> ahh.
[12:35] <DBO> riomerc, please watch the language, and topyli is right, you cant resize mounted partitions
[12:35] <bliss1_> DBO: well it says in labtop section that points to this site and it has to be done at leat got the solution , cuple of cooffees and a pizza should do it
[12:35] <LoCusF> /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS <- good thing to do if you are able to do this
[12:35] <Toma-> oskude: same crappy mobo as me :D
[12:35] <riomerc> DBO: that isn't my goal, it is to create wholly new ones, how do I load gparted, and finally, I'm f**king sorry :D
[12:35] <oskude> Toma-: nice :)
[12:36] <bliss1_> riomerc: calm down man
[12:36] <topyli> riomerc: so is the space you want to edit mounted or not?
[12:36] <riomerc> lol
[12:36] <DBO> bliss1_, you are going to have to download a new kernel, compile it with this driver, and install it in your box... aka... a PITA and several hours of intensive work...
[12:36] <riomerc> topyli: sorry, what?
[12:37] <riomerc> bliss1_: what do you mean? I'm perfectly calm :)
[12:37] <topyli> riomerc: if you have one big partiton, and you're currently running the system you have installed on it, you can't do a thing
[12:37] <DBO> riomerc, if you want to resize your current partition so you can have new ones, you are going to have to go into live boot, use gparted there to resize your current partition (to free unpartitioned space) and then make new partitions
[12:37] <oskude> Toma-: ive been googling like a day and i cant find a solution... (i allso didnt get midi to work through gameport..)
[12:37] <DBO> riomerc, also, its not just my request that you watch your language, I personally dont care, but the rules of the room are such that its... outlawed
[12:38] <riomerc> ok
[12:38] <riomerc> how would I live boot, and how would i run gparted there
[12:38] <DBO> riomerc, do you have a Ubuntu Live CD?
[12:38] <DBO> if not, you will need to download it
[12:38] <PwcrLinux> this channel for just general tech support for any ppls over 13+ of ages..
[12:38] <riomerc> How big is it, DBO
[12:39] <riomerc> 13+?
[12:39] <DBO> about the size of 1 CD
[12:39] <riomerc> oh boy...
[12:39] <topyli> riomerc: or any linux live cd with parted on it
[12:39] <DBO> riomerc, most live boots are around 700MB
[12:39] <orbin> you can get the gparted livecd...i think it's like 12 mbs
[12:39] <riomerc> no, I don't have any live cd
[12:39] <riomerc> 700mb!
[12:39] <oskude> Toma-: maybe i have to tell the snd_intel8x0 module something about joystick(port), do you know where i can find the "manual" of that module ?
[12:39] <riomerc> hm...
[12:39] <riomerc> oh man
[12:39] <riomerc> well, thanks
[12:39] <riomerc> bye
[12:39] <DBO> riomerc, you can get smaller ones, orbin mentioned the gparted CD
[12:40] <DBO> which is much smaller
[12:40] <riomerc> ah, neverminf
[12:40] <DBO> ok
[12:40] <riomerc> **nevermind
[12:40] <PwcrLinux> riomerc: You can order the CD they're both live and install CDs (2) at shipit.ubuntu.com I think
[12:40] <riomerc> but thank for the help
[12:40] <rambo3> alsa makes those modules or gathers them
[12:40] <riomerc> PwcrLinux: I'd prefer to make it myself.
[12:40] <riomerc> bye
[12:40] <PwcrLinux> :)
[12:41] <Toma-> oskude: if you run "modinfo snd_intel8x0" youll see theres a 'joystick' parameter, so open up /etc/modules and add the line 'options snd_intel8x0 joystick=1' then reboot or reload the module
[12:41] <topyli> riomerc: why do you want to repartition anyway. the space is there, aren't you happy?
[12:41] <orbin> sorry, the cd seems to be a 30mb d/load
[12:41] <ubuntuneil> i recently installed clamav , but there was an error i used the synaptic package manager, any suggestions
[12:41] <riomerc> because I want to try to get windows on this HD while keeping this OS
[12:41] <oskude> Toma-: roger
[12:41] <riomerc> but i'm not sure you can install windows on more than one HD anyways
[12:41] <Toma-> oskude: whos that? :D~
[12:41] <bliss1_> DBO: yep thats new kernel say 686 then cd make oldconfig make menuconfig go to ACPI  choose * for kernal statically or M for module  save make  make install
[12:42] <DBO> riomerc, if you installed windows it would kill grub, you would have to fix it with a live CD anyhow...
[12:42] <pip> hello!I used d4x ,but there is nothing in Mydownloads folder
[12:42] <DBO> bliss1_, yeah, it never works out that nice
[12:42] <DBO> bliss1_, what kernel do you use right now?
[12:43] <bliss1_> DBO:  got both 686 and 386 on both os's
[12:43] <ubuntuneil> is clamav compatible with ubuntu breezy badger
[12:43] <bliss1_> DBO; 2.6
[12:43] <DBO> ubuntuneil, yes
[12:44] <DBO> bliss1_, ok, you can do it, just follow the instructions, once you have it compiled lemme know =)
[12:44] <pip> hello!
[12:44] <DBO> hi pip
[12:44] <ubuntuneil> i reinstalled it twice using synaptic , but where is the icon?
[12:45] <ubuntuneil> is it installed as a service
[12:45] <bliss1_> DBO: thanks :)  err what instructions
[12:45] <pip> DBO, Hi,I need your help .I downloadered some mp3 files ,but there is nothing when finished,why?
[12:45] <gaz-> can anyone tell me how i can connect to a wireless network that uses WPA encryption?, i can connect to the network if i disable it but obviously i want it enabled
[12:45] <oskude> Toma-: btw, "modinfo snd_intel8x0 | grep joy" dosnt give any output...
[12:45] <DBO> bliss1_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=0d310eadb229405b090ab3fab7090ab7&t=56835
[12:46] <DBO> follow the instructions for a vanilla install
[12:46] <DBO> pip, please hold, will get to you
[12:46] <babo> Hi guys, can anyone give me examples of unbuffered and buffered I\O system calls ?
[12:46] <Toma-> oskude: do you really need to grep it? its not that long :\
[12:46] <DBO> ubuntuneil, no idea, never used it, try entering clamav into a terminal
[12:46] <mambotech> can anyone here recommend a good terminal emulation program
[12:46] <ubuntuneil> DBO: is it advisasble to use antivirus under linux ?
[12:46] <oskude> Toma-: i grep everything :)
[12:47] <DBO> ubuntuneil, its not needed
[12:47] <DBO> pip, where did you download them to?
[12:47] <oskude> Toma-: but thanks for the modinfo tip :)
[12:47] <Toma-> np
[12:47] <pip> DBO, the default folder which is uesd to store downloaded files is MyDownloads ,I didn't change it.
[12:47] <orbin> mambotech: gnome-terminal works fine for me
[12:48] <mambotech> cool
[12:48] <mambotech> orbin thanks
[12:48] <pip> DBO, I used d4x just now
[12:48] <DBO> pip, if they are not there, they are not there... I dont know what else to tell you...
[12:48] <DBO> I cant work magic to make them appear
[12:48] <mambotech> orbin:how do you use it with com1
[12:48] <pip> DBO, I tried many times ,but failed except once
[12:48] <pebs> magic
[12:48] <ubuntuneil> DBO: is firestarter better than squid? my setup is 2 lan cards -1 connected to net via dsl other lan
[12:48] <orbin> mambotech: com1?
[12:48] <DBO> pip, try not using d4x
[12:49] <topyli> pip: check the d4x preferences. there must be a default download directory
[12:49] <mambotech> orbin:coms port
[12:49] <DBO> ubuntuneil, I like firestarter well enough, its mostly preference
[12:49] <mambotech> I want to connect to my router's console
[12:49] <pip> DBO, Mydownloads is the default folder created by d4x ,it is in /home/pip/
[12:50] <DBO> pip, try not using d4x
[12:50] <topyli> pip: nice, but obviously that's not where it's putting the files
[12:50] <orbin> mambotech: that's out of my depth, sorry.
[12:50] <Dutchy> heyhey, could somebody spam me the links for ntfs/mp3/ff1.5 installation? just saw them here earlier *glares at the ubuntu bot*
[12:50] <Frogzoo> ubuntuneil: afaik - squid is a web proxy, not a firewall
[12:50] <mambotech> Can anyone else help here please
[12:51] <orbin> Dutchy: /mswg ubotu all of those keywords you just typed
[12:51] <pip> DBO, I dont know why there is nothing after a long time of hard task
[12:51] <Dutchy> thanks orbin
[12:51] <DBO> pip, I dont either, try not using d4x...
[12:51] <Frogzoo> !tell dutch about ff1.5
[12:51] <Frogzoo> !tell dutch about ntfs
[12:51] <Frogzoo> !tell dutch about mp3
[12:51] <pip> topyli, I think so
[12:52] <DBO> Frogzoo, you should be able to use it to act as a proxy for internet to share internet between machines though
[12:52] <topyli> DBO: not any more than pip or myself are :)
[12:52] <pip> topyli, I think d4x didnt put files finished in to int default folder
[12:52] <pip> topyli, so ,did you ?
[12:53] <orbin> what app can i use to put divx avis on a dvd so they are readable by a non divx-capable drive?
[12:53] <ompaul> mambotech, you can typically get to the http version of the console for your router by pointing your web browser at it, or you can type telnet ip-of-router
[12:53] <Toma-> orbin: qdvdauthor
[12:53] <orbin> Toma-: will look into it, thanks
[12:53] <mambotech> ompaul:this is a cisco 3600 ...not a belkin :)
[12:54] <mambotech> ompaul:thanks anyway
[12:55] <pip> DBO, Then ,any other tools ?
[12:55] <DBO> pip, yeah, firefox
[12:55] <DBO> mambotech, "getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100"
[12:55] <mambotech> DBO:is that the command
[12:56] <DBO> mambotech, I dont know... my getty is rusty, for all I know it might launch the nuclear aramada =P
[12:56] <pip> DBO, but can you downloader with any link which links to an file?
[12:56] <DBO> but hey, whats the worst it could do?
[12:56] <DBO> pip, erm... if I understand you correctly, then the answer is yes
[12:56] <shinu> why dont i have the esddsp command?
[12:57] <ompaul> mambotech, sorry to insult your hardware, in most cases, http works and it should work with cisco or you can use console port on the bottom of a the back of the unit typically a 25pin D type conneciton if you have the hardware for it, but I find ethernet useful there :-)
[12:57] <pip> DBO, you mean use Firefox ?
[12:57] <DBO> yes
[12:57] <Frogzoo> pip: you might like to try wget
[12:57] <venin> hi, is this normal? http://home.no.net/ozipo/desktop.jpg
[12:57] <pip> Frogzoo, not easy to use
[12:57] <pip> Frogzoo, So much doc
[12:57] <Frogzoo> pip: no, but very powerful, once you know how
[12:57] <Toma-> venin: thats one freaky spike.
[12:57] <nonix4> How do I enable unicode dead keys for console?
[12:57] <pip> Frogzoo, to read before using
[12:58] <topyli> pip: open a terminal, type "wget" and a space. then drag a link to the terminal window
[12:58] <orbin> you can't specify the saved filename w/ wget can you?
[12:58] <pip> topyli, where does it put files into ?
[12:59] <irsri76> fgsdg
[12:59] <Hobbsee> pip: whichever folder you're currently in with the terminal window
[12:59] <Frogzoo> venin: 802.11 spectrum is unrestricted spectrum - also shared with microwaves so yes, some noise is to be expected
[12:59] <morphix> during this compile.. i need 'pcre-devel' would libpcre-dev be it for ubuntu?
[12:59] <pip> Hobbsee, I see\
[01:00] <kingspawn> orbin: -O file
[01:00] <Toma-> morphix: what are u compiling?
[01:00] <orbin> kingspawn: thankyou.  was trying to work out how to do that for yonks
[01:00] <morphix> lighttpd
[01:00] <Toma-> !info lighttpd
[01:01] <Toma-> morphix: probably
[01:01] <alex___> you are not gonna believe this: I was so happy to see that with my new breezy, all my functions keys were reconnized, I tried them all, included the loc screen one, but then the screen went black and I can't now found my bloddy screen ! even after a reboot ! help
[01:02] <Frogzoo> alex___: ctrl alt F7  ?
[01:02] <morphix> i hope so
[01:02] <morphix> cause i didnt know pcre was missing until AFTER i compiled and installed it
[01:03] <alex___> Frogzoo: what is that suppose to do ?
[01:03] <alex___> *d
[01:03] <Frogzoo> alex___: takes you to the gdm screen
[01:03] <ompaul> alex__, have you a flashing prompt there or have you a login?
[01:04] <venin_> is this normal? hehe .. http://home.no.net/ozipo/desktop2.jpg
[01:05] <alex___> nothing
[01:05] <venin_> sry, hang on
[01:05] <alex___> I just have nothing
[01:05] <venin_> http://home.no.net/ozipo/desktop2.JPG
[01:05] <DBO> alex__, CTRL+ALT+F1
[01:05] <leobitchx> hi
[01:05] <leobitchx> is there a way to install ubuntu using only network ?
[01:06] <DBO> alex__, then log in, and type "ps -ef | grep gdm"
[01:06] <ompaul> alex__, also please prefix the answer with the name of the questioner it makes life easy and keep all your thoughts to one line makes it easy
[01:06] <Frogzoo> venin: there may also be other APs in your area which will look like noise
[01:06] <reiki> this is the second time I've heard of a wireless network interface being assigned to eth0. Or at least that's what the screenshot looks like to me
[01:07] <DBO> venin_, normal?  not terribly...  out of the normal?  not at all...  All sorts of things (such as cordless phones) opperate at 2.4Ghz
[01:07] <leobitchx> so, any1 ? :)
[01:07] <DBO> leobitchx, no, no easy way, but it can be done
[01:07] <venin_> DBO, at the tops on the pic i lose connection
[01:07] <rambo3> gnome netowrk tool assaigns eth0 to wireless at least on my fedora c 5
[01:07] <DBO> venin_, do you have cordless phones?
[01:07] <ompaul> !tell leobitchx about install
[01:08] <ompaul> leobitchx, please check the wiki page the bot sent you
[01:08] <venin_> uhm, one somewhere in the house
[01:08] <venin_> lots of cellphones thou
[01:08] <reiki> venin_: bluetooth devices?
[01:08] <venin_> nope
[01:08] <leobitchx> ompaul: well, I only have access to text mode browser :(
[01:08] <DBO> venin_, there are so many variables, is it constantly doing that?
[01:08] <PwcrLinux> venin: any wireless in your home or next doors (Wireless doorbell and etc..)?
[01:09] <venin_> DBO, when i first got connected to the AP it didnt.. then there was a long flat line..
[01:09] <venin_> now its doing it constantly
[01:09] <DBO> venin_, when did it start?
[01:09] <ompaul> leobitchx, so http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation  that web page write it down and consult it
[01:09] <venin_> PwcrLinux, no
[01:09] <Frogzoo> venin: I'm guessing it's another AP sending regular announcements
[01:09] <venin_> DBO, some minutes after assosiaction with AP
[01:09] <venin_> Frogzoo, no.. only AP in area
[01:10] <alex___> alright I got it after several reboot
[01:10] <leobitchx> ompaul ok
[01:10] <Frogzoo> venin_: laptops?
[01:10] <alex___> very strange what happened tho
[01:10] <Azertyuuu> hey all, i have a problem in Mplayer. I want the control panel and the video-window in the same window, as in Kaffeine for exemple ?
[01:10] <DBO> venin_, I suppose you could try using a different AP, or see if booting the live boot gets the same results (to rule out OS)
[01:10] <alex___> I am changing subject but I was trying to find an equivalent to Itunes on ubuntu, any advice ?
[01:10] <tjeerd> hallo?
[01:10] <DBO> hi
[01:10] <ompaul> !nl
[01:10] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[01:11] <bliss1_> DBO; this looks ok ihttp://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21  at what point do i deal with the APCI bit  --its a good thread pretty stright forward
[01:11] <venin_> im using p2p atm.. maybe thats an issue
[01:11] <tjeerd> wie is er nederlands?
[01:11] <Tomcat_> alex__: rhythmbox and amarok are kinda like that. :o
[01:11] <DBO> alex__, amarok
[01:11] <ompaul> tjeerd, /join #ubuntu-nl  this is an english language channel
[01:11] <DBO> venin_, I cant see how
[01:11] <alex___> I know there is Music player, but when importing a cd you have to enter the information manually, there is no way for it to be fetch straight from the internet
[01:11] <spikeb> alex__, rhythmbox for gnome, amarok for kde
[01:11] <venin_> both had stopped cause of one disconnection, when i stopped them and restarted them i have a normal line..
[01:11] <spikeb> er
[01:11] <spikeb> it should be able to
[01:11] <pax> !sources.list
[01:11] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:11] <tjeerd> how?
[01:11] <Dutchy> on the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats under "Other Restricted Formats" it tells me to download gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse however this one is not in the list... using the command i get E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse ... do i really need this? and whoever can tell me the answer can you fix it on the wiki then? :)
[01:11] <Tomcat_> alex__: Works for me without entering info :o
[01:11] <venin_> DBO, im thinking MTU .. its set to 1496
[01:12] <PwcrLinux> I had a wireless internet, I don't use anymore, there is too many residents in my apt bldg have a cordless phone and wireless doorbell flashers..
[01:12] <venin_> DBO, and im dialing pppoe
[01:12] <alex___> spikeb: yes rythmbox, that the one I use but it does not get the info of the cd :)
[01:12] <Dutchy> (I have enabled universe and multiverse repositories)
[01:12] <Tomcat_> alex__: At least with sound juicer...
[01:12] <spikeb> alex__, it SHOULD
[01:12] <DBO> venin_, you could trying lowering RTS and Fragmentation theshholds on the router to try to help, but that wont help with noise
[01:12] <ompaul> tjeerd, do this >>>/join #ubuntu-nl<<<
[01:12] <alex___> Tomcat_: is that another app or is it part of ryhtmbox ?
[01:13] <ompaul> tjeerd, or if you can click on this link ->>> #ubuntu-nl
[01:13] <Tomcat_> alex__: Another app... it rips your CDs to MP3/OGG.
[01:13] <spikeb> when you go to rip a cd, rhymthbox directs you to sound-juicer
[01:13] <bliss1_> DBO: this looks ok ihttp://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21  at what point do i deal with the APCI bit  --its a good thread pretty stright forward
[01:13] <venin_> DBO, rts and fragmention? hmm
[01:13] <venin_> not mtu? :p
[01:13] <DBO> you can drop that if you want as well
[01:13] <burepe> Help, my working tv tuner card lost video. Now I have sound and a black screen, More info here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=929416#post929416
[01:14] <tjeerd> who is dutch?????
[01:14] <venin_> DBO, what will rts and fragmention do?
[01:14] <venin_> DBO, any way to get the statistics in kwifimanager to go further than 240 sec?
[01:14] <alex___> spikeb: ok but then soundJuicer does not seem to go and fetch any info from the web
[01:14] <DBO> bliss1_, you do that once the source is unpacked to /src
[01:15] <venin_> its been stable for at least 300 sec now
[01:15] <Hobbsee> venin_: kwifimanager is awful, try network-manager-kde
[01:15] <Dutchy> Did you guys miss my question or dont you know what the problem is?
[01:15] <DBO> well, 300 seconds wasnt bad hahahaha
[01:15] <Azertyuuu> hey all, i have a problem in Mplayer. I want the control panel and the video-window in the same window, as in Kaffeine for exemple, is it possible ?
[01:15] <spikeb> hmm
[01:15] <spikeb> alex__, i think it is supposed to
[01:15] <bliss1_> DBO; OK then just follow the howto its ok its the ACPI bit
[01:15] <venin_> Hobbsee, i just want monitoring.. is it installed by default? im using gnome actually
[01:16] <DBO> bliss1_, yes, once your have the source installed but not compiled
[01:16] <DBO> you follow the directions on the acpi site bliss1_, then go back to making the source
[01:16] <ompaul> Dutchy, so in a terminal >> sudo apt-get update << then try
[01:16] <Hobbsee> venin_: ack, an explosion of red.  it isnt installed by default...knemo is also quite good for monitoring, and there are gnome equivalents, like network-manager
[01:17] <DBO> venin_, RTS and Fragmentation threshholds are useful if you have noise on the line, causes fewer packets to have to be resent
[01:17] <bliss1_> DBO: AH OK installed but not complied i see acpi site follow which past/ ?then go back to making source that i understand
[01:18] <bliss1_> pDBOart?
[01:18] <bliss1_> DBO sorry which part of apci SITE?
[01:18] <DBO> bliss1_, http://acpi.sourceforge.net/download.html
[01:19] <DBO> look at the "how to apply" section
[01:20] <oskude> Toma-: JUHUU, gravis gamepad is working :)
[01:20] <bliss1_> DBO: so source installed but not complied go to the download page do what it says go back to howto forge page making the source
[01:20] <DBO> yes
[01:20] <oskude> Toma-: good help was this /usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-2.6.10/Documentation/input/joystick.txt.gz
[01:20] <Dutchy> ompaul, E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse <= still getting that...
[01:20] <antisocial_boris> can anyone help me getting online via a wireless network?
[01:20] <morphix> is there a "sysconfig" dir?
[01:21] <bliss1_> DBO: well its a pizza then and a beer
[01:21] <morphix> just this doc says to "cp doc/sysconfig.lighttpd /etc/sysconfig/lighttpd"
[01:21] <morphix> yet there is no /etc/sysconfig/ dir
[01:22] <DBO> there is not such directory in a default ubuntu install
[01:22] <antisocial_boris> ive gone to system>admin>networking, put in the wep code, set eth1 (wireless) as active but it claims that the network is unreachable
[01:22] <ompaul> Dutchy, gstreamer0.8-plugins
[01:22] <DBO> what are you trying to do?
[01:22] <morphix> trying to install lighttpd
[01:22] <alex___> I got Error playing CD. Reason: Could not open resource for writing ?!
[01:22] <morphix> i have compiled and installed it
[01:22] <morphix> but that is for init scripts
[01:22] <morphix> http://trac.lighttpd.net/trac/wiki/TutorialInstallation << read down the very bottom
[01:23] <bliss1_> DBO:take care and thanks
[01:23] <Dutchy> ompaul, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats says both puligns and plugins-multiverse ... if you are sure its just plugins, maybe you could fix it :)
[01:24] <ompaul> Dutchy, read it again that is verison 10
[01:24] <Masterillusionis> hi
[01:24] <oskude> so, to get "gravis gamepad" (gameport) to work, do: sudo apt-get install joystick, sudo modprobe joydev, sudo modprobe ns558, sudo modprobe analog map=gamepad, now you cant test it with: jstest /dev/js0
[01:25] <DBO> morphix, that is a good point, I suppose you COULD make the directory
[01:25] <Masterillusionis> could someone tell me how i have to install counterstrike source with wine
[01:25] <ompaul> Dutchy, version 10 on dapper and version 8 on 5.10(used to be breezy)
[01:25] <Richew> hi. i cannot open terminal. i says Cannot launch entry
[01:25] <Richew> Details: Failed to execute child process "Terminal" (No such file or directory)
[01:26] <ompaul> Dutchy, consider it like the difference between 3.11 and 95 or some such in windows world :)
[01:26] <Richew> what shld i do?
[01:26] <Dutchy> ompaul, sec
[01:27] <Dutchy> ompaul, right under "Other Non-Free Formats" it says this line sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-plugins  gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse  gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[01:27] <Dutchy> isnt that for breezy?
[01:27] <ompaul> Richew, applications -> accessories -> terminal that work for you?
[01:28] <co2x> hi
[01:28] <Dutchy> or 5.10(used ot be breezy) as you call it
[01:28] <leobitchx> qq
[01:28] <co2x> how do i kill a window in gnome?
[01:28] <ompaul> Dutchy, it is, okay sorry my mistakle there, do this pleas e>>> apt-cache policy gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse <<
[01:28] <ompaul> Dutchy, question, does it give any return?
[01:29] <Dutchy> W: Unable to locate package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[01:29] <morphix> hmm... >> 2006-04-17 21:27:39: (server.c.857) WARNING: unknown config-key: fastcgi.server (ignored)
[01:29] <Frogzoo> co2x: run xkill
[01:29] <MistaED> co2x: killall programname? or perhaps have some fun with xkill? or use that system monitor :D
[01:29] <ompaul> Dutchy, okay please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:30] <co2x> i don't know which process it is
[01:31] <co2x> i run wine running Warcraft III :D it didn't run.. i click close and Wine exits leaving a garbage window
[01:32] <PwcrLinux> co2x: does your running exceessive high CPU at 100%, you can find which CPU maxed out in the system monitor and kill it..
[01:34] <co2x> i killed all Wine Preloader
[01:34] <PwcrLinux> good
[01:34] <Dutchy> ompaul, forgive me please, after you said that i re-read the enabling universe multiverse repositories page again, and it turned out I had missed a line
[01:34] <Dutchy> it works now, thanks for the help
[01:34] <ompaul> Dutchy, ehhh maybe :-) no worries :)
[01:34] <co2x> gee WarIII did run with bad graphics then it has Fatal Error and quits
[01:35] <mundi> hi everyone - does anybody know how to change resolution to 1280x800 in ubuntu ??
[01:35] <digitalhav0c> ay could some one tell me the path to the sources list
[01:35] <DeBert> /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:35] <digitalhav0c> thanks
[01:36] <Gorax> does anybody know how to stop Ubuntu from playing with the system clock when it loads?
[01:36] <DeBert> Gorax, i think stop ntpdate from running
[01:37] <Dutchy> what I love about linux are the insane download speeds when installing programs :P
[01:37] <lezouave> join #ubuntu-fr
[01:37] <ompaul> ahh well
[01:37] <digitalhav0c> Debert to start an apt get of gnome from the console
[01:38] <digitalhav0c> would it be sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[01:38] <digitalhav0c> would it be sudo apt-get install gnome
[01:38] <Gorax> thanks DeBert, if that doesn't help, I'll ask again tomorrow ;)
[01:38] <DeBert> digitalhav0c, first one
[01:39] <digitalhav0c> what about xorg?
[01:39] <digitalhav0c> i did a server install and im trying to get gnome installed
[01:40] <welshbyte> digitalhav0c: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:40] <DeBert> digitalhav0c, Isn't that installed automatically than?
[01:41] <ompaul> digitalhav0c, and DeBert well sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and then it all works
[01:41] <DeBert> you're right, my bad
[01:41] <Nevermore> hi - anyone got beagled 0.2.4 running?
[01:41] <digitalhav0c> cool thank ompaul
[01:42] <digitalhav0c> ompaul: is that going to install all the desktops?
[01:42] <ubuntuneil> how do i quit from editing a file with vim?
[01:42] <digitalhav0c> or just xorg
[01:42] <Dutchy> I think Ubuntu should come with a question on first boot if you want to install support for all Non-Free Formats.... would be easier :P
[01:42] <digitalhav0c> then i can install gnome
[01:42] <dj-fu> that'd still be illegal, Dutchy
[01:42] <DBO> ubuntuneil, escape then :q then enter
[01:43] <DeBert> ubuntuneil, ":q!"
[01:43] <dj-fu> this just circumevents the licensing issue
[01:43] <dj-fu> ubuntuneil, if you'd like to save, escape, shift+ZZ
[01:43] <dj-fu> otherwise :q! to quit without saving changes
[01:43] <ubuntuneil> tks a lot
[01:43] <DBO> ubuntuneil, or escape, ":wq", then enter will do write then quit
[01:44] <Dutchy> ok illegal, I guess this works then :P
[01:44] <DeBert> Are there apps that support Gtalk's voicechat?
[01:44] <Nevermore> Anyone got beagle > 0.1.1 running?
[01:45] <digitalhav0c> does anyone know what all ubuntu-desktop installs?
[01:46] <Jimmey__> digitalhav0c, do you mean what makes up the ubuntu-desktop package?
[01:46] <digitalhav0c> yes
[01:46] <Nevermore> hello?
[01:46] <Hobbsee> digitalhav0c: apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop
[01:46] <Jimmey__> digitalhav0c, GDM, Gnome, metacity, GTK applications, fonts..
[01:47] <digitalhav0c> thanks guys
[01:47] <Jimmey__> Damn Hobbsee, where's the need in being so clever
[01:47] <Jimmey__> ?
[01:47] <Jimmey__> XoD
[01:47] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:47] <basvg> um, hi all.. I just noticed that my laptop doesn't seem to have sound anymore... any clues?
[01:47] <Hobbsee> yes, needing to be clever is useful
[01:47] <Jimmey__> basvg, do you hear the jingles when the computer starts?
[01:47] <Hobbsee> Jimmey__: you need to be clever, so that you can answer problems like basvg
[01:47] <basvg> Jimmey__: no, I disabled those
[01:48] <basvg> Jimmey__: I tried to play things with xmms and aplay but nothing seems to work
[01:48] <Jimmey__> basvg, and so the computer's totally silent? Or can you get some sounds?
[01:48] <basvg> Jimmey__: haven't been able to make it bleep or anything
[01:48] <Jimmey__> basvg, try pressing ALT + F2, then typing 'killall esd'
[01:48] <Jimmey__> See if that does anything
[01:49] <basvg> Jimmey__: there was no esd running
[01:49] <Jimmey__> basvg, in that case, try typing 'esd' in the terminal
[01:49] <dj-fu> esd? nasty
[01:49] <dj-fu> don't we use alsa now?
[01:50] <ompaul> Jimmey__, thats not great as the person may not be able to return to the xorg session, you should really have applications- accessories - terminal better for them better for you :-)
[01:50] <basvg> Jimmey__: that also didn't fix it
[01:50] <Jimmey__> ompaul, that's what I meant, I'll make it clearer next time ;)
[01:50] <Jimmey__> dj-fu, you tell me
[01:51] <dj-fu> well, by default breezy uses alsa afaik
[01:51] <ompaul> basvg, what kind of sound card do you use?
[01:51] <basvg> ompaul: 82801CA/CAM AC'97
[01:51] <Jimmey__> basvg, and did you have sound before?
[01:52] <ompaul> basvg, so are you on dapper?
[01:53] <basvg> Jimmey__: yes, it always worked .. and I don't remember changing any settings
[01:53] <basvg> ompaul: nope, breezy
[01:54] <dj-fu> /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[01:54] <takedown> !skype
[01:54] <ubotu> it has been said that skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[01:54] <morphix> :@ the init script doesnt do anything
[01:54] <takedown> !easysource
[01:54] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:55] <basvg> restarting alsa didn't do anything
[01:55] <davecb> how do i uninstall real player 10 in console mode?
[01:56] <ompaul> basvg, just check that alsa is not muted please
[01:56] <basvg> ompaul: umm... how/where?
[01:56] <ompaul> basvg, gnome or kde?
[01:56] <basvg> ompaul: gnome
[01:57] <kim> @^^^^^
[01:57] <kim> ???
[01:57] <ompaul> top right hand corner there is a volume icon, right click open volume control
[01:57] <ompaul> kim, what
[01:57] <kim> im china
[01:57] <kim> ^^
[01:58] <davecb> how do i uninstall real player 10 in console mode?
[01:58] <DBO> ok ompaul, DBO is going to bed
[01:58] <DBO> do I get my /remove now?
[01:58] <ompaul> kim  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[01:58] <basvg> ompaul: the top line says 'alsa mixer'... nothing is muted in the playback tab
[01:59] <ompaul> basvg, check the input tags also
[01:59] <ompaul> DBO if you want
[01:59] <DBO> hit me!
[01:59] <davecb> how do i uninstall real player 10 in console mode?
[02:00] <Jimmey__> davecb, hang on a moment
[02:00] <davecb> k
[02:00] <ompaul> Hobbsee, I have to say he asked for it :-)
[02:00] <Hobbsee> ompaul: hmm?
[02:00] <basvg> ompaul: only mic is muted, the rest is available
[02:00] <Jimmey__> davecb, I think that if you delete the 'realplayer' folder in /home. and the .real.... in /home then that's about it
[02:01] <davecb> hmmmmmm
[02:01] <davecb> ok
[02:01] <basvg> errrr
[02:01] <ompaul> basvg, have you skype installed? if so there is a thing called a DSP hijacker available from  !Seveas
[02:01] <ompaul> basvg, what?
[02:01] <basvg> ompaul: hang on.. just noticed something weird
[02:01] <cijori> Anyone got beagle >0.1.1 running?
[02:02] <basvg> ompaul: if I insert the headphone *half* (not all of the plug, only half way) then I do hear sound
[02:02] <basvg> if I insert all of it then sound is gone again
[02:02] <ompaul> basvg, that is not a software error :-(
[02:02] <simon> basvg: try with another set of headphones
[02:02] <morphix> hmm?? "bin-path" => "/path/to/php-cgi"
[02:03] <basvg> ompaul / simon : with headphone and without headphone => no sound, half inserting the headphone => sound
[02:03] <basvg> bizar, eh
[02:03] <ompaul> basvg, that is a hardware problem
[02:03] <basvg> sounds like it :(
[02:04] <drshell> hello!
[02:04] <basvg> apparently the laptop thinks a headphone is inserted whethere I insert a headphone or not
[02:04] <cijori> Hi - Anyone got beagle >0.1.1 running?
[02:05] <morphix> fkn
[02:06] <morphix> all php is denied
[02:07] <cijori> Anyone running beagle > 0.1.1
[02:07] <basvg> well, thanks
[02:07] <basvg> cu all
[02:07] <ompaul> cijori, we saw you the first time please wait about 15 minutes before you ask again
[02:07] <cijori> sorry - I've been having trouble with IRC
[02:08] <cijori> wasn't sure if it'd worked
[02:09] <ompaul> cijori, it would not be usual on 5.10 (used to be called breezy in its pre release days) however on Dapper the forthcoming release in June it will be running beagle: (indexing and search tool for your personal data), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.2.3-0ubuntu7 (dapper), Packaged size: 1139 kB, Installed size: 3128 kB
[02:10] <ompaul> cijori, and dapper discussion is in the channel #ubuntu+1
[02:10] <cijori> thanks
[02:11] <nonix4> hmm, gdm somehow went goofy on me - it says it's looking for some kind of a server but can't find any - thus, no login :-(
[02:14] <alumno> kl
[02:14] <alumno> hi
[02:15] <alumno> you folkin your mother
[02:15] <alumno> sorry
[02:16] <dj-fu> what the hell. lol
[02:16] <dj-fu> folkin your mother, alumno.
[02:16] <Stormx2> hey homiez
[02:16] <alumno> you is very sily
[02:17] <alumno> hello
[02:17] <alumno> hello
[02:17] <xbox_sky> silly*
[02:17] <Gorax> has anybody else noticed that right-clicking the tabs in Firefox without left-clicking them first, occasionally opens a new tab?
[02:18] <alumno> tu chupar pollas
[02:18] <alumno> ggh
[02:18] <alumno> ggggfhyrthtbr
[02:18] <xbox_sky> alumno this is ENGLISH only
[02:18] <alumno> htehbt
[02:18] <xbox_sky> idiot
[02:18] <alumno> your mother
[02:19] <xbox_sky> thank you
[02:19] <Gorax> alumno, how old are you? 12, or 13?
[02:19] <Gorax> seriously, that stuff only amuses children :/
[02:19] <xbox_sky> agreed
[02:20] <Gorax> ompaul wins :/
[02:20] <ompaul> be nice
[02:20] <ompaul> is that a threat or a request :-)
[02:20] <Gorax> ?
[02:22] <MisterN> hi
[02:22] <ompaul> Gorax, I am being very light hearted, I was accused eariler of not doing :PPPP enough or some such, I am seen as a lot more serious than I am
[02:23] <mephis1987> !ipv6
[02:23] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[02:23] <Gorax> I get told I do that too much ;)
[02:25] <digitalhav0c> hum now i have ubuntu-desktop installed
[02:25] <welshbyte> shouldn't ubotu have some nice informative help about IPv6 support on ubuntu when you type !ipv6, rather than telling you how to disable it in your web browser?
[02:25] <digitalhav0c> but no screens were found
[02:25] <digitalhav0c> whats the command to configure xorg?
[02:26] <welshbyte> dpkg-reconfigure (xorg package) i think
[02:26] <simon> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:26] <ompaul> digitalhav0c, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (if confused choose vesa as card type to get get something working)
[02:26] <gnomefreak> digitalhav0c: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:27] <GTroytooawake> uhmm how do you set it so that a program doesn't open full screen, thereby messing up my dual head?
[02:27] <welshbyte> ompaul: there's always one.... ;)
[02:27] <gnomefreak> ompaul: it never worked on my nvidia card :(
[02:27] <ompaul> gnomefreak, vesa never worked?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> nope
[02:27] <gnomefreak> not once
[02:27] <shrewduser> what card
[02:27] <shrewduser> ?
[02:28] <shrewduser> thats really very odd
[02:28] <gnomefreak> nvidia 5200
[02:28] <ompaul> gnomefreak, the res should be very low but it should work :-/
[02:28] <gnomefreak> ompaul: ill try again
[02:29] <digitalhav0c> yay dapper drake finally works for me
[02:29] <digitalhav0c> :)
[02:29] <digitalhav0c> but now to install the nivida drivers
[02:29] <digitalhav0c> brb
[02:29] <ompaul> !nvidia
[02:29] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:29] <allison_1984> can someone help with this, I cannot seem to find/access the gui for system manager anymore
[02:30] <ompaul> ohh dear guess thats not going to be the use case
[02:31] <ompaul> allison_1984, sorry, which particular item is it you want to address or is it the whole system menu?
[02:32] <allison_1984> ompaul: I wanted to change the screen resolution from 1200X to something like 800x600, and its not on the choice anymore and I can't find the gui for the system anymore
[02:32] <yasmin> hola
[02:33] <ompaul> allison_1984, gksudo gnome-display-properties
[02:33] <allison_1984> ompaul: funny thing is there was this manager when I started with ubuntu, now its just disappeared...
[02:33] <allison_1984> ompaul: ok
[02:34] <ompaul> allison_1984, also work with a program called "alacarte" that can help construct menus
[02:34] <ompaul> allison_1984, or smeg actually
[02:35] <allison_1984> ompaul: thing I don't understand is where did that manager go ?
[02:36] <ompaul> allison_1984, I don't know what happened, but it is not a bug or everyone in here would be complaining
[02:36] <allison_1984> ompaul: just two choices I got, don't have the 800x600 choice..this will be a problem for viewing movies with subtitles
[02:36] <allison_1984> ompaul: ok, could it be because I updated the kernel sometime ago
[02:37] <HackerGates> Ciao
[02:37] <pip> topyli, wa~~~~wget is so great
[02:38] <ompaul> allison_1984, so >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << and make sure you have enough of the low end resolutions - and I still do not have an idea, no a kernel change should not impact your menus
[02:38] <pip> topyli, I can make it
[02:38] <topyli> pip: tried and tested, works every time :)
[02:38] <orbin> allison_1984: that's the first time i'v eheard that of needing to lower resolution to watch a movie
[02:38] <gnomefreak> ok it loaded than crashed but seems ok for now
[02:38] <HackerGates> ubuntu server italian
[02:38] <HackerGates> where is
[02:38] <HackerGates> ???
[02:38] <void^> !it
[02:38] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:38] <orbin> HackerGates: #ubuntu-it
[02:39] <HackerGates> yes
[02:39] <allison_1984> orbin: esp if you have to use a projector; the subtitles and screen res..go sideways :)
[02:39] <HackerGates> thanks
[02:39] <pip> topyli, So good tool ,I am enjoying the song I've downloaded.
[02:39] <HackerGates> but i not find this server
[02:39] <orbin> allison_1984: oh, i see
[02:40] <gnomefreak> HackerGates: if you go to #ubuntu-it its on same server you are on atm and they all speak italian
[02:40] <_jason> HackerGates: type this: /join #ubuntu-it
[02:40] <robinl1> how to get kahakai for ubuntu?
[02:40] <allison_1984> orbin: funnily it gets fixed when I decrease the screen res
[02:41] <wahjava> Hi group
[02:41] <orbin> allison_1984: well, ompaul already told you how to possibly get 800 enabled.  but, what manager were you talking about that disappeared?
[02:42] <wahjava> I've added a new configuration /etc/dbus-1/system.d/ due to which dbus daemon fails to start
[02:42] <ompaul> orbin, I think it is a set of menus on the panel
[02:42] <wahjava> how do I know where is the problem ??
[02:42] <wahjava> any log maintained by dbus ??
[02:42] <HackerGates> boh
[02:42] <allison_1984> orbin: its the equivalent of the control panel in windoze
[02:43] <allison_1984> orbin: I had it in my menu sometime ago and now I can't seem to find it in my system...or maybe I am missing something ;)
[02:43] <wahjava> any body can help me out ??
[02:43] <orbin> allison_1984: er, gnome doesn't really have a control panel thingy
[02:44] <_jason> allison_1984: run 'gnome-control-center' in a terminal.  Is that what you mean?  I believe it was removed from the menu since everything is in the menus already
[02:45] <allison_1984> orbin: it cannot be dementia on my part..hahahaha...I seem to remember some panel where I could reconfigure most of the applications
[02:45] <orbin> _jason: ah, guess gnome does then :)
[02:45] <allison_1984> _jason: unless thats the answer
[02:45] <_jason> allison_1984: hmm?
[02:45] <gnomefreak> _jason: its not in the gnome menu but is in the debian menu
[02:47] <orbin> robinl1: what is it?
[02:47] <gnomefreak> also should be in xfce menu
[02:47] <allison_1984> well, anyway thanks for all the updates...I feel better
[02:48] <rio__> when will ubutnu have boxed copies in the shops?
[02:48] <_jason> allison_1984: you can add it back to your menu if you like it
[02:48] <gnomefreak> rio__: never
[02:48] <rio__> even if they're 'pratically' free
[02:48] <rio__> or even free givawayas
[02:48] <tarzeau> rio__: when you open a shop, and put them up
[02:49] <gnomefreak> rio__: they are free you can get them from ship it
[02:49] <allison_1984> _jason: apt-get ?
[02:49] <ompaul> rio__, you have shown an interest in this why not open such a shop
[02:49] <ConfidentiaL> I just set up a server with proftp, but I have a rather strange problem. When I try to connect with a Windows machine, I get like a 10second delay before the login appears, but when I try with a linux machine, it pops up immediately. Any1 know what's causing it?
[02:49] <_jason> allison_1984: application > system tools > applications menu editor, then just make a new shortcut that opens gnome-control-center
[02:49] <rio__> tarzeau, I gave some to a local IT shop who have put them up
[02:49] <tarzeau> rio__: nice
[02:50] <rio__> tarzeau, just wondering how aol get there stuff littered everywhere, costs alot of money i suppose
[02:50] <tarzeau> rio__: producing cds en masse is cheap
[02:51] <gnomefreak> its almost impossible for ubuntu to put copies in stores since the releases come out in short intervals
[02:51] <codecaine> hi I installed mscore fonts how do I get my fonts real nice like the webbrower fonts and the gui of ubuntu?
[02:51] <acid-trip> whats the installation canidate for php4
[02:52] <orbin> hypothetically,  they'd give them out for free?  or would they charge for them?
[02:52] <_jason> acid-trip: php4
[02:52] <ompaul> !info php4
[02:52] <gnomefreak> acid-trip: sudo apt-get install php4 should install it
[02:52] <ubotu> php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 4:4.4.0-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 24 kB
[02:52] <_jason> ubotu: tell acid-trip about lamp
[02:52] <acid-trip> rob@tribal:/var/www$ sudo apt-get install php4
[02:52] <acid-trip> Reading package lists... Done
[02:52] <acid-trip> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:52] <acid-trip> E: Couldn't find package php4
[02:53] <_jason> acid-trip: php4 is in universe, php5 is in breezy main
[02:53] <_jason> ubotu: tell acid-trip about universe
[02:53] <ompaul> acid-trip, install a repo called universe I will get the bot to tell you about that - and DONT paste in here again
[02:53] <ompaul> !paste
[02:53] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[02:53] <acid-trip> sorry
[02:53] <ompaul> np
[02:54] <wahjava> any body can help me out with dbus ??
[02:54] <gnomefreak> acid-trip: did you enable universe repo yet?
[02:55] <acidspoon> can anybody help me with the configuration of webdav?
[02:55] <ompaul> Hobbsee, u about?
[02:55] <Hobbsee> ompaul: indeed
[02:55] <acid-trip> i did one
[02:55] <acid-trip> it's one line can i paste it in here?
[02:55] <Hobbsee> acid-trip: one line, yes
[02:56] <gnomefreak> it never turns out to be one line if its from a browser
[02:56] <acid-trip> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted <-- thats the one pasted
[02:56] <gnomefreak> acid-trip: mirror max backports are no good any longer
[02:57] <gnomefreak> acid-trip: and no thats not universe
[02:57] <Jasey> how do i install a *.deb package in ubuntu which is on my ubuntu desktop???
[02:57] <_jason> !deb
[02:57] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[02:57] <gnomefreak> acid-trip: the line you are looking for should start with word deb and end with word universe
[02:57] <Jasey> ooooh
[02:57] <acid-trip>    deb http://www.grawert.net/ubuntu/ warty universe <-- that one?
[02:57] <_jason> acid-trip: are you using hoary?
[02:58] <acid-trip> no
[02:58] <acid-trip> breezy badger
[02:58] <_jason> acid-trip: warty then?
[02:58] <MrRio> Jasey: or when dapper is released you can double click on it
[02:58] <_jason> acid-trip: you seem to have warty and hoary repos
[02:58] <gnomefreak> acid-trip: why do you have hoary and warty repos
[02:58] <Jasey> yeah im waiting for dapper drake like mad
[02:58] <gnomefreak> acid-trip: what does the command lsb_release -a
[02:58] <gnomefreak> say
[02:59] <acid-trip> breezy
[02:59] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell acid-trip about sources
[02:59] <gnomefreak> acid-trip: you need to go to the breezy link that was sent to you and replace your list with the new one
[03:00] <gnomefreak> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   is how to open it
[03:00] <acid-trip> i did
[03:00] <acid-trip> i nano'ed my sources.list
[03:00] <acid-trip> and uncommented the universe sources
[03:00] <gnomefreak> acid-trip: did you apt-get update?
[03:00] <jan_> hi, how do I uninstall something installed through wine? it's a partypoker install, and there is no uninstall file.
[03:01] <acid-trip> gnomefreak, yes i did
[03:01] <orbin> gnomefreak: that syntax won't work
[03:01] <gnomefreak> orbin: what wont?
[03:01] <_jason> acid-trip: you don't need to just uncomment.  You need to delete what you have and replace them with the proper ones for breezy
[03:01] <orbin> at least on my box
[03:01] <orbin> gnomefreak: the command you posted.  try it
[03:01] <acid-trip> whatever i did it worked
[03:01] <acid-trip> cause it installed php4 for me
[03:01] <acid-trip> lol
[03:01] <gnomefreak> gksudo gedit?
[03:02] <jan_> !wine
[03:02] <gnomefreak> it works here
[03:02] <Nameeater> where is the recently opened stuff kept? (places-> recent)
[03:02] <_jason> acid-trip: you should still fix your sources :)
[03:02] <acid-trip> but now how do i reconfigure apache2
[03:02] <orbin> gnomefreak: w/ the filename?
[03:02] <gnomefreak> yes as i typed it
[03:02] <_jason> gnomefreak: you should do gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' with the quotes because it works for some, but for others (including me) it opens the wrong path
[03:02] <Jasey> agree
[03:03] <gnomefreak> orbin: you might have to put " around the file name (someone said that yesterday) but it always worked for me hoary breezy and dapper
[03:03] <orbin> _jason: finally an explanation! thankyou
[03:03] <orbin> _jason: why is it hit and miss?
[03:03] <Hobbsee> hi Seveas
[03:03] <Seveas> hi Hobbsee
[03:04] <_jason> orbin: no idea
[03:04] <gnomefreak> _jason: that might be a breezy thing than and somewhat new i would say
[03:04] <Stormx2> Seveas: Who'd you just ban?
[03:04] <_jason> gnomefreak: good point
[03:04] <steveire> I can't get through to http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[03:04] <Feddar> ciao a tutti...c'e' qualcuno che parla italiano?
[03:04] <_jason> !it
[03:04] <Hobbsee> !it
[03:04] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:04] <Hobbsee> :P
[03:04] <Seveas> Stormx2, myself, had to test something
[03:04] <gnomefreak> i couldnt think of a reason they should need them since the file paths can have them in it
[03:04] <Feddar> grazie e scusate...
[03:04] <Stormx2> Seveas: I thought that, but it was like, double-you tee eff?! o.O
[03:05] <Dutchy> is "save current setup" the only way to let programs start at boot?
[03:05] <gnomefreak> cant*
[03:05] <steveire> can anyone else get through to the site?
[03:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> Dutchy, no, htere is a startup manager app
[03:05] <jan_> Seveas, could you please tell me how i uninstall a program install with wine?
[03:05] <Dutchy> ah ok ill go find that
[03:05] <Stormx2> steveire: Which?
[03:05] <Seveas> jan_, run its uninstaller I guess
[03:06] <gnomefreak> jan_: some windows installers are also uninstallers
[03:06] <dj-fu> gjust rm -rf it
[03:06] <dj-fu> ll
[03:06] <gnomefreak> but dealling with wine if wine file.exe doesnt work than not sure i dont play with wine
[03:07] <jan_> Seveas, yeah, but there is none..
[03:07] <Seveas> jan_, then I wouldn't know...
[03:07] <jan_> Seveas, ok, thanks
[03:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> jan_, then look up what that programs needs to uninstall
[03:07] <gnomefreak> jan_: try #winehq they would know more
[03:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> its the program youneed to research, not wine ;)
[03:08] <jan_> gnomefreak, thanks!
[03:08] <gnomefreak> Kamping_Kaiser: i was thinking amybe there is a flag to remove
[03:08] <gnomefreak> uninstall
[03:08] <jan_> / join #winehq
[03:08] <jan_> join #winehq
[03:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> gnomefreak,  maybe, mabye not. depends on app
[03:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> jan_, /join
[03:08] <gnomefreak> jan_: no space between / and the j
[03:09] <delta> Hi.
[03:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Delgul_at_work
[03:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> oops
[03:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi delta
[03:10] <delta> Is there any tee shirts (for example) for kids on ubuntu shop?
[03:10] <_jason> delta: you cna get the shirts in kids sizes afaik
[03:10] <kapsul> ubuntu.pl
[03:11] <_jason> delta: http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop.14580507 , see in the size it has kids small, kids medium, and so on
[03:11] <acid-trip> why wont php4 allow my gallery2 to work?
[03:11] <_jason> !doesn't work
[03:11] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day?  Does it want more money?  Is it on IRC all the time?  Please be specific!  Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[03:11] <_jason> hmm that got changed huh
[03:11] <mod^> What is the "information_schema" -table in MySQL?
[03:11] <delta> _jason, I'm looking but can't find them. I'm not native english and not familiar with us sizes :) would you mind to drop an eye on the page and see if I'm looking wrong? :)
[03:12] <delta> _jason, oh, let me see.
[03:12] <delta> _jason, cool, thanks a lot :)
[03:12] <_jason> delta: np
[03:13] <acid-trip> for some starnge reason apache wont parse gallery2
[03:15] <Richew> is it safe to install windows if i have ubuntu installed in another partition.. would the grub loader still work?
[03:15] <gnomefreak> Richew: install the other way
[03:16] <gnomefreak> windows first ubuntu second (best bet) or you can fix grub with ubuntu live cd
[03:17] <acid-trip> _jason, you know anything about the php4 and apache for ubuntu?
[03:17] <acid-trip> wait
[03:17] <acid-trip> i guess i should of built the dep for them
[03:18] <Richew> my problem would be, i'll lose all i have in ubuntu if i reinstall it =( any possible way to install windows safely in a system w/ ubuntu initially installed?
[03:18] <_jason> acid-trip: is php working on a simple php test page?
[03:18] <gnomefreak> Richew: winxp?
[03:19] <acid-trip> _jason, i'm trying to get gallery2 working
[03:19] <acid-trip> but it wont even let me open the first page
[03:19] <_jason> acid-trip: make sure php is working
[03:19] <gnomefreak> win 2000 is hit or miss with grub win xp will over write/erase grub so you will need live cd to fix it
[03:20] <gnomefreak> yay only 2 more hours of updates left
[03:20] <gnomefreak> brb
[03:21] <acid-trip> _jason, is www.strangeland.com php?
[03:21] <acid-trip> :D
[03:21] <_jason> acid-trip: is that your domain?
[03:22] <acid-trip> no
[03:22] <acid-trip> i need a cheap php code
[03:22] <Richew> gnomefreak: yep, winxp
[03:22] <_jason> acid-trip: <?php phpinfo(); ?> <--- put that in a page on your server and see if it works
[03:22] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Richew about grub
[03:23] <gnomefreak> Richew: in your pm will help you restor grub
[03:23] <Tusnal> anybody know any site or something to decide which window manager use?
[03:23] <acid-trip> _jason, yeah it shows up
[03:24] <acid-trip> http://tribal.mine.nu/test.php
[03:24] <welshbyte> Tusnal: i wish i could answer that but window managers are a matter of religious preference. you just have to try a few and see if you like them :)
[03:25] <_jason> acid-trip: well at least now you know it's actually your gallery2 thing that isn't working
[03:25] <gnomefreak> gallery2 hasnt worked since it appeared
[03:25] <acid-trip> i figured out my gallery2
[03:25] <graveson> has anyone seen this error : atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xbb on isa0060/serio0).
[03:25] <gnomefreak> it didnt work in dapper nor breezy for me
[03:26] <welshbyte> graveson: breezy, right?
[03:26] <Trae> gnomefreak, #gallery-support ?
[03:26] <graveson> welshbyte: yes
[03:26] <gnomefreak> Trae: i gave up on it lol long time ago
[03:26] <Trae> gnomefreak, they've been quite helpful to me in the past
[03:26] <welshbyte> graveson: breezy does that
[03:26] <Trae> ahh
[03:26] <gnomefreak> acid-trip: you might want to try there
[03:27] <Tusnal> welshbyte: i know .. but i just want a site to vote or read about users .. any idea?
[03:27] <graveson> welshbyte: any fix ,because my alt+f1 ..... is not working
[03:27] <welshbyte> Tusnal: nope, sorry
[03:27] <gnomefreak> graveson: make sure num locks key is on
[03:27] <errpast-wc> On firefox for Linux, what config associates media players with file types.
[03:27] <welshbyte> graveson: hm, no idea
[03:28] <errpast-wc> I want to open an embedded video link on a page, but mplayer is associated with it.
[03:28] <gnomefreak> ^^^ if you are trying to get a tty
[03:28] <errpast-wc> The link used to work with Flash
[03:28] <dj-fu> that'd be the mplayer mozilla plugin :p
[03:28] <gnomefreak> errpast-wc: flash video?
[03:28] <welshbyte> gnomefreak: alt+f1 brings up the applications menu
[03:28] <orbin> graveson: window manager, or desktop environment?
[03:29] <gnomefreak> welshbyte: i know that i came in at last sec sorry but i did learn that today :(
[03:29] <graveson> orbin: gnome
[03:29] <scrpt> join #gentoo
[03:29] <welshbyte> gnomefreak: no need to be sorry ;)
[03:29] <pip> Hllo!
[03:29] <pip> hello!
[03:29] <pip> I cant compile my .c file
[03:29] <orbin> graveson: sorry, that was meant for Tusnal
[03:30] <gnomefreak> pip: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:30] <Tusnal> orbin: what ?
[03:30] <orbin> Tusnal: window manager, or desktop environment?
[03:30] <errpast-wc> gnomefreak: is there no such thing?
[03:30] <gnomefreak> after that is installed pip than try still have issues feel free to ask
[03:30] <_jason> pip: have you installed the build-essential package
[03:30] <orbin> there's a difference apparently
[03:30] <Tusnal> orbin: both really
[03:30] <pip> I have instlled gcc-4.0 gcc-4.0-base gcc ,but why?
[03:30] <gnomefreak> errpast-wc: huh?
[03:30] <errpast-wc> reason I say Flash, is that when I first opened that link, Mozilla requested I install a Flash plugin
[03:31] <orbin> Tusnal: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=409027 and http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=409028
[03:31] <errpast-wc> I installed the plugin, and the video played.
[03:31] <_jason> gnomefreak: you're getting too fast for me
[03:31] <gnomefreak> pip: build-essential is needed
[03:31] <gnomefreak> _jason: lol
[03:31] <orbin> Tusnal: there's craploads of polls like that out there.  whether or not you believe in the valu of statistics ....
[03:31] <gnomefreak> errpast-wc: no such thing as what errpast-wc  you lost me
[03:32] <orbin> Tusnal: that's another issue altogether
[03:32] <Tusnal> orbin: thats sweet thx mate
[03:32] <welshbyte> pip: what errors are you getting anyway?
[03:32] <Tusnal> orbin: i am kinda sick of use the same .. wanna test new stuff
[03:32] <gnomefreak> iirc build-essential has header files that you need to compile C code
[03:32] <errpast-wc> 1) wanted to open an embedded link on a web page 2) opened link, and received message, "please install plugin"
[03:32] <ConfidentiaL> I just set up a server with proftp, but I have a rather strange problem. When I try to connect with a Windows machine, I get like a 10second delay before the login appears, but when I try with a linux machine, it pops up immediately. Any1 know what's causing it?
[03:32] <pip> welshbyte, I have instlled gcc-4.0 gcc-4.0-base gcc ,but I cant compile .c file
[03:33] <gnomefreak> errpast-wc: and the plugin being flash?
[03:33] <errpast-wc> 3) Installed plugin, which was flash (I think...) 4) video played.  5) about an hour later, video failed to play
[03:33] <welshbyte> pip: what happens when you try?
[03:33] <errpast-wc> 6) wondered what I had changed.  Didn't think I changed anything
[03:33] <gnomefreak> errpast-wc: did you install flash from the restricted site?
[03:33] <pip> welshbyte, error: stdio.h: no such file or dir
[03:34] <gnomefreak> !flash
[03:34] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:34] <errpast-wc> 7) Installed mplyaer plugin 8) try and open embedded link again 9) mplayer launches, but fails to open video successfully
[03:34] <gnomefreak> pip: once again install build-essential
[03:34] <pip> gnomefreak, I want to know what does build-essential do in detail ?
[03:34] <welshbyte> pip: build-essential should install the standard C libraries for you
[03:34] <welshbyte> pip: among other things
[03:35] <pip> welshbyte, OK! I see
[03:35] <errpast-wc> 10) thinking is that if I could just associate the embedded link video type with flash, then maybe I could get video to play again
[03:35] <gnomefreak> pip: stdio.h is a needed header file for C coding you can get it from build-essential
[03:35] <pip> gnomefreak, Thank you
[03:35] <gnomefreak> pip: its a meta package of things you need to build
[03:35] <dasenjo> Hi, I want to activate xdmcp in my box ... it works, but takes too long (about 10 minutes) to be detected by another hosts ... can you help me?
[03:35] <errpast-wc> gnomefreak: Not sure if I installed Flash from restricted site or not?
[03:35] <gnomefreak> !b-e
[03:35] <ubotu> I guess b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.
[03:35] <gnomefreak> errpast-wc: you on 386?
[03:36] <errpast-wc> I'm on a P3 Dell Inspiron 4000.  That would be 586, no?
[03:36] <gnomefreak> errpast-wc: ok ar eyou on ppc or 64bit?
[03:36] <gnomefreak> 386-586 so on are all the same
[03:36] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell errpast-wc about flash
[03:36] <errpast-wc> gnomefreak: OK 386-586 all the same.
[03:36] <gnomefreak> whatever installs on 386 will install on the rest
[03:37] <gnomefreak> errpast-wc: speed is only thing different iirc and not too noticible
[03:37] <ConfidentiaL> I just set up a server with proftp, but I have a rather strange problem. When I try to connect with a Windows machine, I get like a 10second delay before the login appears, but when I try with a linux machine, it pops up immediately. Any1 know what's causing it?
[03:37] <autosuggested> gnomefreak: I've always been confused by that dialog during installation - why are there 386, 586, 686 kernels if they are all the same?
[03:37] <errpast-wc> gnomefreak: ok, got that about 386.  Still wondering why this embedded video worked in  beginning, and not now
[03:37] <gnomefreak> autosuggested: speed of processer
[03:38] <Mend> hello everybody!
[03:38] <autosuggested> gnomefreak: Kernels optimised for different speeds?
[03:38] <gnomefreak> i386 = intell 386mhz
[03:38] <void^> ...
[03:38] <void^> a 386 doesn't have mmx or anything fancy.
[03:39] <void^> a pentium-mmx (586) doesn't have sse.
[03:39] <Mend> i wanna play .rm files in ubuntu. Totem can't play .ram or .rm files. What player do u suggest? It must be free and able to be installed from source
[03:39] <void^> and a number of less obvious differences
[03:39] <_jason> Mend: mplayer with w32codecs
[03:39] <oxigen> does anyone have file install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz ...ftp is down :/
[03:39] <_jason> Mend: what do you mean by free? as in beer or as in speech?
[03:39] <orbin> Mend: helixplayer?
[03:39] <autosuggested> void^: But it doesn't really matter that I'm installing i386 debs and the like?
[03:40] <Mend> _jason: where can i get them?
[03:40] <errpast-wc> How does firefox decide which media file to associate with which media player?
[03:40] <_jason> ubotu: tell Mend about mplayer
[03:40] <cached> Mend: Google
[03:40] <_jason> ubotu: tell Mend about w32codecs
[03:40] <gnomefreak> oxigen: either wait till back up or download the tar and compile it yourself
[03:40] <Mend> orbin: can it play .rm files?
[03:40] <gnomefreak> errpast-wc: in the settings it will have a default player
[03:40] <orbin> Mend: i always see it recommended over realplayer
[03:40] <void^> autosuggested: no, just as long as you don't use 686 on a 486.
[03:40] <oxigen> gnomefreak: where is tar?
[03:41] <autosuggested> void^: Thanks for clearing that up!
[03:41] <gnomefreak> oxigen: macromedia.com?
[03:41] <cf_> ConfidentiaL: Have you checked your name-resolution?
[03:41] <gnomefreak> flash.com?
[03:41] <gnomefreak> oxigen: its non-free so you will have to read the instructions to do it
[03:41] <Mend> orbin: could u tell me where i can download it?
[03:42] <Mend> orbin: tarball only.
[03:42] <Stormx2> STORMX WANTS SOUND IN FIREFOX!!! >.>
[03:42] <_jason> !caps
[03:42] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[03:42] <Stormx2> Ah ha
[03:42] <DewDude> talking in third person also makes you look like an idiot.
[03:43] <orbin> Mend: https://player.helixcommunity.org/
[03:43] <Stormx2> gnomefreak: use galeon 
[03:43] <orbin> Mend: why compile though? it's in the repos
[03:43] <oxigen> gnomefreak, thank you, it is up again! :)
[03:43] <Stormx2> DewDude: stu-fuu
[03:43] <DewDude> heh
[03:44] <cached> aistan: google
[03:44] <cached> athcsx: google
[03:44] <cached> ekedahl: google
[03:45] <scorchsaber> Hey, whats up with this peice of code at the bottom:
[03:45] <cached> bliss1_: google
[03:45] <scorchsaber> if __name__ == '__main__':
[03:45] <scorchsaber>     main()
[03:45] <bliss1_> hi all
[03:45] <_jason> cached: stop
[03:45] <cached> _jason: fine
[03:45] <Mend> orbin: my dialup in ubuntu is very slow. I hate ubuntu's ppp connection. it doesn't show any progress whether u r connected or not. so i download tarballs from windows then install them in linux
[03:45] <bliss1_> cached; what
[03:45] <scorchsaber> What if I change __name__?
[03:46] <_jason> scorchsaber: http://www.diveintopython.org/getting_to_know_python/testing_modules.html
[03:46] <rambo3> channame is a variable
[03:46] <[Chameleon] > cached: LOL, are you trying to pre-emptively strike the idiots?
[03:46] <scorchsaber> thanks _jason
[03:46] <Omeg> Hi everyone
[03:46] <gnomefreak> _jason: hes trolling in off-topic too
[03:46] <scorchsaber> h'llo
[03:46] <bliss1_> cached; google meaning
[03:46] <Omeg> I just downloaded a demo of Sim City 3000. Upon trying to run it, I get an error message:
[03:46] <Omeg> ./sc3u_demo: relocation error: ./sc3u_demo: symbol _dl_global_scope, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference
[03:46] <orbin> Mend: heh, that's a horrible way to do things.  what happens when you have dependencies and need libraries etc.?  i use gnome-pp personally, and the network monitor applet.  that'll give you indication of net activity
[03:47] <cached> [chameleon] : pretty much
[03:47] <orbin> *gnome-ppp
[03:47] <Omeg> So I guess I need to get GLIBC_2.0?
[03:47] <[Chameleon] > cached: heh
[03:47] <gnomefreak> bliss1_: dont worry about it
[03:47] <Omeg> I tried looking for it in the repositories, but couldn't find it.
[03:47] <gnomefreak> bliss1_: he just picked a name
[03:48] <bliss1_> gnomefreak: hi ok if ompual was here he would have to deal with him i suppose
[03:48] <Mend> orbin: my modem was winmodem. after installing slmodem ubuntu recognized it. but gnome-pp doesn't recognize it. it says modem can't found
[03:48] <scorchsaber> _jason: THats a neat trick. Thanks
[03:48] <Omeg> Anybody who can tell me what to get to fix this?
[03:48] <gnomefreak> !ops
[03:48] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[03:48] <orbin> Mend: did you specify the right device line?
[03:48] <Seveas> gnomefreak, ?
[03:48] <scorchsaber> Oops: This is the wrong channel
[03:48] <orbin> Mend: or tried wvdial?
[03:48] <Mend> orbin: i use Administration>Networking but it is very slow
[03:48] <gnomefreak> cache is trolling here and offtipc
[03:48] <Hobbsee> what's the problem?
[03:48] <scorchsaber> sorry
[03:48] <gnomefreak> off-topic eve
[03:48] <gnomefreak> n
[03:49] <cached> gnomefreak: i shut up after _jason told me to
[03:49] <morgler> just installed ubuntu, but it doesn't allow access to my NTFS hardrive :(
[03:49] <Mend> orbin: i guess it uses wvdial but i didn't install it
[03:49] <Omeg> Can anyone help me with my problem?
[03:49] <gnomefreak> cached: you didnt in offtopic
[03:49] <bliss1_> cached: that's ok i am just a baby here i cry often
[03:49] <orbin> Mend: admin-networking is not gnome-ppp or wvdial
[03:50] <morgler> when i try to access the hda5, it tells me i did not have the access rights???
[03:50] <orbin> Mend: i'd try wvdial first.  then use gnome-pp as a gui if it works
[03:50] <orbin> *gnome-ppp
[03:50] <Mend> orbin: i know. but gnome-pp didn't recognize the modem
[03:50] <ConfidentiaL> cf_ : name-resolution??? in my config file, or?
[03:50] <Hobbsee> Seveas: on a role there :P
[03:50] <Seveas> Hobbsee, showing off my   BOFH skillz
[03:50] <Mend> orbin: is wvdial in ubuntu packages?
[03:50] <Hobbsee> ehhe
[03:50] <orbin> Mend: sudo apt-get wvdial
[03:50] <autosuggested> morgler: What does the entry for hda5 in /etc/fstab look like?
[03:50] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:50] <orbin> *apt-get install
[03:51] <Stormx2> uhg I cant find the ruddy wiki page on getting sound in firefox
[03:51] <Omeg> Does anybody know what this error message could mean? ./sc3u_demo: relocation error: ./sc3u_demo: symbol _dl_global_scope, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference
[03:51] <Stormx2> maybe its restricted formats... hmm
[03:51] <[Chameleon] > Omeg: the problem is that loki basically hard-coded to the then current GLIBC.
[03:51] <Mend> orbin: i wanna install it from tarball
[03:51] <[Chameleon] > Omeg: and don't repeat yourself
[03:51] <_jason> Stormx2: for flash player in firefox or something else?
[03:51] <gnomefreak> Stormx2: what format are you trying to play?
[03:51] <orbin> Mend: actually, it's on the ubuntu cd
[03:51] <Omeg> Sorry, but nobody was helping me. Thus I repeated myself.
[03:51] <orbin> Mend: actually, i think it's installed by default...
[03:52] <Stormx2> gnomefreak, _jason, flash. But it is in RestrictedFormats
[03:52] <ricardo_> hi!
[03:52] <[Chameleon] > Omeg: I was typing... Anyway, AFAIK there is NO way to run older games like that on newer GLIBC's
[03:52] <Stormx2> Taking a look at it now.
[03:52] <[Chameleon] > Omeg: are you on Breezy or Dapper?
[03:52] <bliss1_> just one question before going to work if i am building a kernel and i am woo i am in usr/src and about to run make meuconfig but if i have a working config what do i do/ go into that directory and run what ?
[03:52] <gnomefreak> Stormx2: yes
[03:52] <Mend> orbin: how it is configured then if exists?
[03:52] <Omeg> I'm on Breezy.
[03:52] <gnomefreak> Stormx2: assuming your not on ppc or 64bit it should work
[03:52] <orbin> Mend: ok, you might want to write this down:
[03:53] <ricardo_> anyone can help me with my network connection?
[03:53] <morgler> the NTFS hardrive seems to be mounted, but when double clicking on it, it says i would not have access rights. but i am logged in as default user (who should have admin rights)
[03:53] <glimp> help how do i change profile?
[03:53] <_jason> ubotu: tell morgler about ntfs
[03:53] <gnomefreak> morgler: did you use sudo?
[03:53] <autosuggested> ricardo_: What kind of connection: ethernet, wireless?
[03:53] <_jason> morgler: you need to mount with the proper poermissions (see the table in the wiki)
[03:53] <morgler> i can access my FAT32 hdd, but not the NTFS (W2K) - wahts wrong?
[03:54] <morgler> thanks
[03:54] <orbin> Mend: [1]  sudo wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf ... if it detects your modem: [2]  gksudo 'gedit /etc/wvdial.conf' [3]  enter and uncomment account details [4]  type: sudo wvdial  to connect
[03:55] <ricardo_> does anyone know why I cant configure the default gateway device when I use a static ip adress?
[03:55] <Omeg> [Chameleon] :  I guess it isn't really possible for me to run this program, then?
[03:55] <bliss1_> well i could ask someone but rules state i should not
[03:55] <Omeg> Unless I were to downgrade, which is something I don't think is much of a good solution.
[03:55] <[Chameleon] > Omeg: AFAIK it is not. I'd love to hear otherwise... I'm not doing much else, so let me research it. please stand by.
[03:55] <Omeg> Thanks.
[03:56] <gnomefreak> bliss1_: what rules prevent you from asking a question?
[03:56] <autosuggested> ricardo: What does your /etc/network/interfaces look like?
[03:56] <glimp> helo can anyone help how do i change profile? i screwed up and cant browse my bookmarks in firefox
[03:56] <autosuggested> ricardo_, under your network connection does it have "gateway 192.168.1.1" or similar?
[03:57] <gnomefreak> glimp: you will find the profile in /home/username/.mozilla   or /home/username/.firefox
[03:57] <bliss1_> gnomefreak: i asked a question to the channel and I thoght its polite to wait for an answer rather than impose on someone could be wrong
[03:57] <kbrooks> hi :P
[03:57] <[Chameleon] > Omeg: BTW, one possible solution may be to use dchroot to basically install a parallel Debian/Ubuntu version... I know some PPL on AMD64 setup an i386 dchroot to run 32-bit firefox plugins and win32codecs.
[03:57] <glimp> okey thanks gnomefreak
[03:57] <kbrooks> bliss1_: you CAN always repeat if you arent getting the help you need
[03:57] <gnomefreak> bliss1_: oh ok
[03:58] <kbrooks> bliss1_: just dont do it every 2 seconds or even 2 minutes
[03:58] <gnomefreak> building kernel :(
[03:58] <ricardo_> my /etc/network/interfaces has only one network interface (the primary)
[03:58] <ricardo_> and it reads
[03:58] <Mend> orbin: thanks. one more question: what is .bin extention in linux? is it like .exe in windows?
[03:58] <Omeg> You mean install two versions of GLIBC?
[03:58] <ricardo_> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[03:58] <bliss1_> kbrooks: ye  ok I am just a guide on the side not a sage on the stage
[03:58] <autosuggested> Right.
[03:58] <ricardo_> auto eth0
[03:58] <welshbyte> Mend: extensions mean nothing, essentially
[03:58] <autosuggested> First problem is that you have it set for dhcp.
[03:59] <ricardo_> but i had to configure to dhcp
[03:59] <Mend> welshbyte: but it says "installer"
[03:59] <[Chameleon] > Omeg: I mean basically two distros.
[03:59] <ricardo_> so that i could connect with the internet
[03:59] <welshbyte> Mend: but generally people name binary files .bin
[03:59] <autosuggested> If you want a static ip, you can't have dhcp at the same time!
[03:59] <Mend> welshbyte: what does it mean?
[04:00] <ricardo_> ok, but with static ip i wouldn't be here... :)
[04:00] <welshbyte> Mend: it's likely to be an executable (although it'll need to be chmoded +x for it to really be executable)
[04:00] <Mend> welshbyte: how are they installed? like next, next, finish as in windows?
[04:00] <Omeg> I don't think that's really an option... I doubt this old laptop would have enough disk space to handle two separate distros, let alone leave enough space to be able to adequately use them.
[04:00] <welshbyte> Mend: depends on the programmer of the installer
[04:00] <[Chameleon] > Omeg: well, fortunately you mostly just need the libraries
[04:01] <bliss1_> gnomefreak: almost forgot happy easter
[04:01] <Mend> welshbyte: ok
[04:01] <cf_> Confidentia: no, i meant your windows-box. check the node-type of the ethernet-adapter and if it's using netbios first!
[04:01] <autosuggested> ricardo_: Yeah I know! ;) No worries, but if you want a static ip your /etc/network/interfaces will have to look something like the first entry for eth0 on http://www.servepath.com/support/debian_ip_configuration.htm
[04:02] <gnomefreak> bliss1_: happy easter to you too
[04:02] <[Chameleon] > Omeg: I installed an Ubuntu Dapper base i386 chroot earlier today and it's only 191MB.
[04:02] <Omeg> [Chameleon] :  I seem to have found a sort of how-to, but it's not very clear to me exactly what I need to do with its instructions: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Running_Old_Loki_Games#Sim_City_3000
[04:02] <glimp> thanks gnomefreak i got it, phew, i amost bang my head on the wall i thought i'd erase my bookmarks lol,
[04:02] <autosuggested> ricardo_: Before you head off and do something crazy, backup your /etc/network/interfaces
[04:03] <ricardo_> Ok... Do I have to specify the broadcast address?
[04:03] <glimp> by the way how can i make a directory hidden what is the command?
[04:04] <Mend> I have problem with php. when i open .php files from localhost it yields error: "failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line". Anyone can help?
[04:04] <Valehru_Fedora> Hi there guys
[04:04] <[Chameleon] > Omeg: checking it out...
[04:04] <Valehru_Fedora> Im making the switch from Fedora to Ubuntu
[04:04] <Valehru_Fedora> never used a debian system
[04:04] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: good for you. My wife and I did the same after FC3. You'll find it a refreshing experience with much less bloat.
[04:04] <Valehru_Fedora> and I want to know how I can easily setup a repository using the apt command,...
[04:04] <Larsson-Sweden> In Breezy i restarted my sound server with /etc/init.d/alsa force-reload , but in dapper there is only a modul called alsa-utils, and it isnt properly restarted. Xine froze and it is hanging upp my soundcard.
[04:05] <Valehru_Fedora> IM using FC5 and cannot run cedega at all...not happy with it..
[04:05] <Mend> I have problem with php. when i open .php files from localhost it yields error: "failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line". Anyone can help?
[04:05] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: so you plan to use dchroot on your AMD64 system?
[04:05] <Valehru_Fedora> no
[04:06] <Valehru_Fedora> this is just a quick fix at the moment
[04:06] <morgler> i tried to use sudo to mount my NTFS device (as described in the wiki), but it still says i have no access rights :(
[04:06] <Valehru_Fedora> long story...anyhow..
[04:06] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: what then? I've been researching the same and it appears that the solution involves dchroot.
[04:06] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: /query me if you want to compare notes
[04:06] <_jason> morgler: did you change the permissions it got mounted with?
[04:06] <rambo3> you mount it in sudo you have to acess with sudo
[04:06] <morgler> the device (hda5) is also present in the fstab file and thus should be mounted automatically when starting ubuntu, right?
[04:06] <Mend> I have problem with php. when i open .php files from localhost it yields error: "failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line". Anyone can help?
[04:06] <Valehru_Fedora> solution for cedega and fedora
[04:06] <Valehru_Fedora> ?
[04:07] <_jason> morgler: unless you use the 'noauto' option, yes
[04:07] <Valehru_Fedora> that problem is with gnome-mount
[04:07] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: cedega and Ubuntu
[04:07] <rambo3> morgler,  only if you have auto in fstab
[04:07] <Valehru_Fedora> ahh..
[04:07] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Ubuntu
[04:07] <_jason> morgler: can you paste the fstab line corresponding to it?
[04:07] <Valehru_Fedora> no ..don't have ubuntu installed yet..
[04:07] <Valehru_Fedora> just about to install it now..
[04:07] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: ah, well, that might be helpful anyway
[04:07] <Valehru_Fedora> but Im worried that Ill be stuck in text mode..
[04:07] <Larsson-Sweden> In Breezy i restarted my sound server with /etc/init.d/alsa force-reload , but in dapper there is only a modul called alsa-utils, and it isnt properly restarted. Xine froze and it is hanging upp my soundcard.
[04:07] <orbin> Valehru_Fedora: define "setup an apt repos"?
[04:07] <Valehru_Fedora> and as I don't have a second laptop with me I can't come online to compare notes
[04:08] <Valehru_Fedora> a repository where I can get files from
[04:08] <morgler> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[04:08] <morgler> /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[04:08] <Valehru_Fedora> For fedora is known as livna
[04:08] <Mend> I have problem with php. when i open .php files from localhost it yields error: "failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line". Anyone can help?
[04:08] <Valehru_Fedora> I think..
[04:08] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: the /etc/apt/sources.list contains the repository setup.
[04:08] <morgler> the problem occurs with both NTFS partitions
[04:08] <Valehru_Fedora> from what I remember..
[04:08] <[Chameleon] > livna is one of the apt-rpm repos
[04:08] <_jason> morgler: the wiki has a table listing ways to get permissions, did you see it?
[04:08] <orbin> Valehru_Fedora: yes, but what do you mean by setup?  you want to make your own, you want to enable the extra ones?
[04:08] <Valehru_Fedora> does the default one have the nvidia drivers?
[04:08] <arrick> anyone, I would like to host multiple websites on my ubuntu/apache2 server, anyone know how to set this up?
[04:09] <Valehru_Fedora> well there is a default one I presume...
[04:09] <Mend> I have problem with php. when i open .php files from localhost it yields error: "failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line". Anyone can help?
[04:09] <[Chameleon] > the main site for apt-rpm is http://apt.freshrpms.net
[04:09] <Valehru_Fedora> Im just wondering is there an apt command I could get the nvidia drivers set up for ubuntu?
[04:09] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: yeah, piece of cake
[04:09] <orbin> ubotu: tell Valehru_Fedora about repos
[04:10] <_jason> morgler: it's in the ``Editing Ubuntu's filesystem table'' section
[04:10] <Valehru_Fedora> orbin: yeah...was talking about the extra ones..
[04:10] <morgler> i used another wiki article (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountNtfsOnBoot?highlight=%28mount%29). i will read throguh yours
[04:10] <orbin> Valehru_Fedora: you'll need to enable "universe" for the nvidia driver iirc
[04:10] <Valehru_Fedora> ok...that just involves uncommenting the repo file right?
[04:11] <Anjay> Hi all. I'm trying to partition my hard drive with gparted via ubuntu live cd, yet for some reason it won't work, can anyone help?
[04:11] <Valehru_Fedora> whats the apt command to get the drivers installed?
[04:11] <arrick> mornin orbin
[04:11] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: when you have Ubuntu installed, use Synaptic Package Manager (graphical apt) or dselect (nice text-mode UI) and install the restricted modules.
[04:11] <Valehru_Fedora> once I have the universe repo enabled?
[04:11] <orbin> 'lo arrick
[04:11] <Valehru_Fedora> just dselect...
[04:11] <Valehru_Fedora> sound..
[04:11] <[Chameleon] > !enter
[04:11] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[04:11] <Valehru_Fedora> It will definitely be from the text mode.
[04:11] <Valehru_Fedora> thx
[04:11] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: why do you say that?
[04:12] <orbin> ubotu: tell Valehru_Fedora about nvidia
[04:12] <arrick> orbin, hoping someone is here that can answer my question, missing IdleOne right now
[04:12] <[Chameleon] > orbin: good call
[04:12] <Frys> No managable screens found on display :0.0 <--- why do i keep getting that error when i try to run compiz?
[04:12] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: BTW, once you get the binary driver installed, you should check into XGL / compiz.
[04:12] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: it's supa-fly.
[04:13] <Richew> what app can extract .rar archives
[04:13] <ppastor> no hableis en ingles
[04:13] <Richew> ?
[04:13] <[Chameleon] > welshbyte: I agree, but them's the rules.
[04:13] <Valehru_Fedora> Chameleon: why do you think Im switching?
[04:13] <Valehru_Fedora> lol
[04:13] <[Chameleon] > !es
[04:13] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:13] <morgler> i replaced the "default" in fstab with the options given in the wiki table for NTFS (ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000). but i still cant access the partition.
[04:14] <orbin> Richew: unrar
[04:14] <welshbyte> [Chameleon] : yep i agree with the rule, just picky about syntax :)
[04:14] <_jason> morgler: unmount and then mount again
[04:14] <[Chameleon] > :)
[04:14] <ppastor> no te entiendo morgler
[04:14] <morgler> in the media folder the two ntfs devices hab a red cross
[04:14] <arrick> !es
[04:14] <orbin> morgler: did you remount it?
[04:14] <morgler> just did a sudo mount -a
[04:14] <ppastor> arrick no hables en ingles
[04:14] <_jason> morgler: you have to umount them and then do that
[04:14] <morgler> ok
[04:14] <_jason> ppastor: /join #ubuntu-es
[04:15] <mabus> How do you make mplayer take up the whole screen. Not just, the black part. But the actual video.
[04:15] <arrick> ppastor, please type /join #ubuntu-es
[04:15] <_jason> mabus: choose xv as the video output
[04:15] <[Chameleon] > arrick: aye carumba
[04:15] <orbin> _jason: ah, so that's the fix.
[04:15] <arrick> [Chameleon] , no comprende espanol?
[04:16] <morgler> it works :). thank you so much :))
[04:16] <orangizer> i have an ovislink wl-8000
[04:16] <orangizer> does anybody know how can i configure it?
[04:17] <arrick> anyone, I would like to host multiple websites on my ubuntu/apache2 server, anyone know how to set this up?
[04:17] <[Chameleon] > arrick: heh, a little. I tried to tell him to join the spanish chat's too... and he quit right when you did the same.
[04:17] <Valehru_Fedora> ok...so once I have edited the sources.list for the repos I just run "sudo apt-get update"
[04:17] <[Chameleon] > arrick: frustrating.
[04:17] <Valehru_Fedora> then dselcect?
[04:17] <Valehru_Fedora> Is there a selection there then for nvidia?
[04:18] <orbin> anyone else get a server message re: jadoob?
[04:18] <Valehru_Fedora> nopr
[04:18] <Valehru_Fedora> nope
[04:18] <_jason> orbin: he pinged the channel
[04:18] <enquest> I added a ethernet card in my computer but Ubuntu doesn't reconize it on start-up... How can I tell ubuntu. Hey look for that new card?
[04:18] <arrick> haha
[04:18] <orbin> _jason: ah
[04:18] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: search (using / ) for the restricted-modules
[04:19] <arrick> [Chameleon] , you just saw all I undestand of spanish ebsides swearing, which I dont make a practice of, but used to hear all the time when I was younger,, managing  meat cutting plant
[04:19] <[Chameleon] > arrick: ditto
[04:19] <[Chameleon] > arrick: but less meat packing.
[04:19] <arrick> haha
[04:19] <Gambit-> hey guys, I'm noticing strange hiccups when ssh'ed into my ubuntu server on the local network, any ideas what might be causing it?
[04:20] <martyn> i just installed a new hard drive how can i format if to FAT32
[04:20] <Valehru_Fedora> prefer the french swearing....its like wiping your ass with silk
[04:20] <kingspawn> martyn: well, use fdisk to create a partition, then mkfs.vfat on that partition
[04:20] <Gambit-> I'll do an 'ls -la' and it will just hang for a half second.
[04:20] <martyn> kingspawn: how do i do that
[04:20] <[Chameleon] > martyn: mkfs.vfat
[04:20] <Frogzoo> whoever was looking at starcraft under wine earlier, this might be the go: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Starcraft
[04:20] <arrick> Did anyone know that apache2 has ssh built into it? Why did i install ssh server?
[04:20] <orbin> Valehru_Fedora: so true.  anything sounds good in french
[04:21] <AskHL> Hello, my friend has a really crappy screen which cannot use text mode (don't ask). Thus we need a graphical boot loader. Is it possible to enable a graphical interface somehow? Perhaps it is necessary to install another boot loader, such as lilo?
[04:21] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: heh, nice Matrix quote
[04:21] <kingspawn> martyn: fdisk /dev/hdx, where x is your newly installed disk
[04:21] <Valehru_Fedora> yeah..
[04:21] <Valehru_Fedora> but can you actually understand the matrix quote?
[04:21] <Valehru_Fedora> Used to teach french and go out with a lot of francaises
[04:21] <Valehru_Fedora> nice way to learn the language
[04:21] <martyn> kingspawn: says it is unable to open it
[04:21] <Valehru_Fedora> Concentrating on Chinese at the moment
[04:22] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: nii hao ma
[04:22] <kingspawn> martyn: well, you exchange the 'x' with ie 'a' or 'b' or wherever you installed the disk
[04:22] <Valehru_Fedora> hen hao
[04:22] <[Chameleon] > :)
[04:22] <Valehru_Fedora> ni ne?
[04:22] <kingspawn> martyn: dmesg | grep hd might be helpful
[04:22] <martyn> kingspawn: lol i did that mate id hdb
[04:22] <Valehru_Fedora> working in a software company here
[04:22] <kingspawn> martyn: ah, good
[04:22] <kingspawn> martyn: put sudo in front of fdisk
[04:22] <[Chameleon] > martyn: you might try gparted / kparted
[04:22] <Valehru_Fedora> not bad for a scut from Ireland...
[04:23] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: :)
[04:23] <martyn> [Chameleon] : what are they
[04:24] <martyn> kingspawn: still get unable to read
[04:24] <imdat> hi! is there anyone can help me about media players on ubuntu?
[04:24] <[Chameleon] > martyn: graphical partition create/edit/resize tools
[04:24] <kingspawn> martyn: sure the new disk is hdb?
[04:24] <[Chameleon] > martyn: based on parted command line tool
[04:24] <welshbyte> imdat: yes lots of people
[04:24] <kingspawn> martyn: dmesg | grep hd if you're not sure
[04:24] <orbin> imdat: just ask
[04:24] <martyn> kingspawn: yeah its an old HD out my xbox old 8 gig thing but it works fine
[04:25] <imdat> vlc and totem does not work on my laptop
[04:25] <imdat> I'm using a dell latitude 110 L
[04:25] <welshbyte> imdat: "does not work" is a bit vague
[04:25] <Warbo> imdat: Do they come up and not play, or not come up at all?
[04:25] <mephis1987> hello , do any1 know any tutorial for C language in Linux
[04:26] <Frogzoo> kettusually PrtSc
[04:26] <[Chameleon] > mephis1987: did you try googe?
[04:26] <[Chameleon] > google even
[04:26] <imdat> e.g. totem always says when I tried to watch a vcd or dvd 'suddenly quit'
[04:26] <martyn> kingspawn: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12444
[04:26] <Valehru_Fedora> wow...redhat bought jboss...
[04:26] <Valehru_Fedora> was unexpected
[04:26] <imdat> yes
[04:26] <mephis1987> [Chameleon] , i see , i mean the IRC channel to dicuss about it
[04:26] <errpast-wc> Is there a ~/.mozzilla config that associates firefox apps with files (e.g. .mov with mplayer plugin)
[04:26] <gnomefreak> imdat: sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[04:27] <Valehru_Fedora> ok...im logging of from fedora for the last time..
[04:27] <imdat> gnomefreak:  tried all of them
[04:27] <Valehru_Fedora> wish me luck...hopefully ill be on an ubuntu system soon
[04:27] <Valehru_Fedora> laters..
[04:27] <Valehru_Fedora> and thx for your help
[04:27] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: wait a sec
[04:27] <Valehru_Fedora> sure
[04:27] <errpast-wc> s/firefox apps/plugins for firefox
[04:27] <gnomefreak> imdat: what are you tring to play?
[04:27] <_Avatar_> i want to know a good repo for the forbiden codecs;
[04:27] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: actually, n/m... good luck. :)
[04:27] <Warbo> imdat: Is it just DVDs/discs?
[04:28] <Valehru_Fedora> lol...ill be fine
[04:28] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell _Avatar_ about codecs
[04:28] <imdat> also media files
[04:28] <_Avatar_> !easysource
[04:28] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:28] <imdat> not music files but other ones mpeg, wmv and all of them
[04:28] <_Avatar_> 10x
[04:28] <martyn> kingspawn: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12444
[04:28] <gnomefreak> im gonna have X in 30 mins ;)yay
[04:29] <errpast-wc> Is there a ~/.mozzilla config that associates firefox plugins with files (e.g. .mov with mplayer plugin)
[04:29] <kingspawn> martyn: lets see..
[04:30] <errpast-wc> s/mozzilla/Mozilla
[04:30] <kingspawn> martyn: oh
[04:30] <kingspawn> martyn: this disk might be broken
[04:30] <kingspawn> martyn: last disk i had doing that took my whole mp3-collection with it
[04:31] <revartj> somebody know, why ubuntu can not, run binary in other patition
[04:31] <revartj> ???
[04:31] <martyn> kingspawn: oh well its cool i have an 4 gig 1 here to its just to swap files with windows if i need it
[04:32] <kingspawn> martyn: heh, good. i wouldnt store my love letters on that hdb, atleast. might work doing a dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hdb, and then trying fdisk..
[04:32] <[Chameleon] > revartj: make sure your mount command has the exec option.
[04:32] <kingspawn> martyn: just dont get commands using dd wrong
[04:33] <martyn> kingspawn: ok ill try that what u mean dd
[04:33] <revartj> [Chameleon] , wait
[04:34] <[Chameleon] > martyn: it's probably best if you don't know.
[04:34] <[Chameleon] > martyn: heh, j/k. try this:    man dd
[04:34] <martyn> lol ok
[04:35] <martyn> the manuel lol
[04:35] <bicky> how to set the resolution with a command ?
[04:36] <[Chameleon] > Omeg: that gentoo HOWTO seems quite complete and exactly what you need. How is it working for you?
[04:36] <tarzeau> bicky: xvidtune -next ?
[04:36] <orbin> errpast-wc: probably easier to do that through prefs?
[04:36] <bliss1_> my question has gone off the the edge
[04:37] <martyn> kingspawn: Disk is broken i thinks its kool
[04:37] <revartj> [Chameleon] , very thank
[04:37] <Ares> How would I change my resoluton?
[04:37] <orbin> Ares: sys>pres>screen res.
[04:37] <orbin> s/pres/prefs
[04:37] <kingspawn> martyn: heh, yeah
[04:37] <[Chameleon] > revartj: np
[04:38] <martyn> kingspawn: its kool ill put thye old 4 gig in then god i hate windows ahhhh lol
[04:38] <Nogimics> Anyone know if there are any stats for me to show how long a process has been running?
[04:38] <Omeg> [Chameleon] :  I haven't started trying it yet, but if you say that it's complete enough, I'll thoroughly look at it later. I've become busy with something since I asked. Anyway, thanks for looking into it!
[04:38] <[Chameleon] > Omeg: np.
[04:39] <bicky> what command should I use to change screenresolution ?
[04:39] <_jason> bicky: system > prefs > screen resolution
[04:40] <revartj> [Chameleon] , np???? i am spanis, i don't undertand
[04:40] <Warbo> Nogimics: I don't know how on an existing process, but by starting it with the "time" command you can tell
[04:40] <[Chameleon] > Omeg: this might help:  http://www.swanson.ukfsn.org/loki/00README.loki_compat
[04:40] <[Chameleon] > revartj: np is an abbreviation for "no problem"
[04:40] <_jason> bicky: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then
[04:40] <igrar> Im using Hoary. What is the best CD -writing (data) for gnome ?
[04:40] <revartj> [Chameleon] , ok
[04:40] <Nogimics> Warbo how would I start it with "time" pls
[04:40] <Nogimics> and how would I then check?
[04:40] <[Chameleon] > revartj: no problemo amigo
[04:41] <Warbo> Nogimics: Sorry, I've never done it myself. I'll have a go for you now
[04:41] <revartj> [Chameleon] , es --> No hay problemas amigo
[04:42] <orbin> igrar: gnomebaker probably
[04:42] <Valehru_Fedora> lo guys
[04:42] <[Chameleon] > revartj: muchos gracias
[04:42] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: wow, that was a fast install!!!
[04:42] <Valehru_Fedora> seems to be a rather small problem
[04:42] <errpast-wc> orbin: Thanks. I agree would be easier to do via prefs.  BUT tools>options>download>change action is greyed out on my firefox.  Probably cause there are no video files in the dir that firefox is lookingto?
[04:42] <Ares> How would I get/install drivers for my ATI card?
[04:42] <Valehru_Fedora> doesnt even detect my DVD / CDROM drive
[04:42] <errpast-wc> orbin: What other prefs would you change?
[04:42] <Valehru_Fedora> fails to mount it
[04:42] <kbrooks> !es :)
[04:42] <ubotu> kbrooks: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:43] <Warbo> Nogimics: I think that "time -o file command (followed by options and things)" will give you a file "file" that gives info on the process
[04:43] <Valehru_Fedora> any ideas?
[04:43] <kenotte> hello
[04:43] <igrar> orbin: in breezy there nautilus integrated tool. thats very easy, is it supported on hoary?
[04:43] <Valehru_Fedora> its strange....it goes into boot..
[04:43] <Valehru_Fedora> starts asking questions from the drive
[04:43] <kenotte> qui et tu
[04:43] <Valehru_Fedora> and then mounts the CD rom...and then can't find / mount it..
[04:43] <Valehru_Fedora> gah
[04:43] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: did you do a media check?
[04:44] <orbin> errpast-wc: is this ff1.0.7?
[04:44] <Valehru_Fedora> how can I do that
[04:44] <errpast-wc> orbin: yup
[04:44] <Valehru_Fedora> there is no option in the boot menu to check it that I saw
[04:44] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: breezy or dapper?
[04:44] <Warbo> Nogimics: Type that in a terminal (without the quotes) so an example: "time -o log nautilus /home" would run nautilus in home, with the file "log" telling you about it
[04:44] <Valehru_Fedora> breezy
[04:44] <orbin> errpast-wc: i suggest you upgrade to 1.5.0.2   the preferences for file actions seemt to be greatly enhanced over the old ff
[04:44] <minerale> Hi, I just installed flight 6, the moment the system booted up my monitor went blank and now shows "out of sync"
[04:45] <orbin> ubotu: tell errpast-wc about ff1.5
[04:45] <bliss1_> gnomefreak: just one question before going to work if i am building a kernel and i am woo i am in usr/src and about to run make meuconfig but if i have a working config what do i do/ go into that directory and run what ?
[04:45] <Valehru_Fedora> should have brought my laptop with me from work..
[04:45] <orbin> igrar: forgotten tbh.  try insterting a blank cd
[04:45] <Valehru_Fedora> could have been reading up on this or talking with ye guys whilst I install
[04:45] <errpast-wc> orbin: good suggestion.  I noticed the association stuff with 1.5.0.2 was much better, but that was firefox on a windows box.  I thought 1.0.7 was latest for linux.  My mistake.  Thanks for patience and help
[04:46] <Valehru_Fedora> Any idea Chameleon?
[04:46] <orbin> errpast-wc: no worries.
[04:46] <minerale> what is the name used to configure the x display. I just booted drapper drake and the screen is out of sync (resolution too high)
[04:46] <Nogimics> will try it, thanks Warbo. Thought there might be an option to check this on every process tho like in ps x command or something
[04:46] <Ares> How do I use a .run file?
[04:47] <orbin> errpast-wc: yeah, i doubt firefox devs would create new versions for windows only ;)
[04:47] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: yeah... in the install choose "go back" and select "media check" (or similar)
[04:47] <Valehru_Fedora> will do...lemme reboot
[04:47] <orbin> Ares: sh runfile
[04:47] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: wait
[04:47] <Excaliber> Hello
[04:48] <bliss1_> kingspawn: happy easter  just one question before going to work if i am building a kernel and i am woo i am in usr/src and about to run make meuconfig but if i have a working config what do i do/ go into that directory and run what ?
[04:48] <minerale> Hi,,, no one seems to be noticing my concern. I just installed drapper drake and the default resolution is too high for my monitor to handle
[04:48] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: if you seriously want to use XGL, brezzy won't work well (if even at all). you need dapper for the XGL bling.
[04:48] <orbin> ubotu: tell minerale about xorg
[04:48] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: and the dapper installer has the media check option right on the first menu.
[04:49] <Excaliber> Hello everyone.
[04:49] <Excaliber> = )
[04:49] <DieSphink> minerale: tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[04:49] <orbin> Excaliber: you're chipper today
[04:50] <Valehru_Fedora> bugger
[04:50] <Valehru_Fedora> hang on..
[04:50] <Excaliber> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:50] <Excaliber> try that
[04:50] <Valehru_Fedora> i downloaded the latest ubuntu version
[04:50] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: you'll like dapper anyway... it's fun.
[04:50] <Excaliber> Kubuntu is better.= )
[04:50] <Excaliber> Well i like it better.
[04:50] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: dapper is still in development. it's got a little while longer.
[04:51] <Valehru_Fedora> hmm..
[04:51] <Valehru_Fedora> well ill install breezy
[04:51] <Valehru_Fedora> and see if i like it
[04:51] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: but, it's quite good already.
[04:51] <arrick> anyone, I would like to host multiple websites on my ubuntu/apache2 server, anyone know how to set this up?
[04:51] <Valehru_Fedora> shouldnt be too much of a difference between installations right?
[04:51] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: I've been running it for months.
[04:51] <Warbo> Velehru_Fedora: You won't find Dapper from the main page (ubuntu.com) I found it through the Wiki though
[04:51] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: dapper's installer is a lot better.
[04:51] <Excaliber> I like KDE version better.Looks more exciting.
[04:51] <Excaliber> = D
[04:51] <Valehru_Fedora> ahh k..
[04:51] <Valehru_Fedora> have you got a torrent for it?
[04:51] <Valehru_Fedora> for the ISO?
[04:51] <Excaliber> sudo apt-get kde
[04:51] <Excaliber> something like that
[04:51] <[Chameleon] > Excaliber: dude, enough. we're not arguing Gnome/KDE here.
[04:52] <Excaliber> lol sorry.
[04:52] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: 1 sec
[04:52] <Excaliber> = )
[04:52] <Warbo> Chameleon: Does Espresso actually work? Any guide I find says "Only use it if you don't mind your drive being wiped"
[04:52] <Valehru_Fedora> k...thx
[04:52] <Valehru_Fedora> was sure there was no media check with this version
[04:52] <Valehru_Fedora> yeah...there wasnt
[04:52] <Ares> Ok newbie here... I can't figure out how to use this .run file
[04:52] <Valehru_Fedora> at least not in the menus I could access
[04:52] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: there IS a media check in breezy. it's just not obvious to get to.
[04:53] <Excaliber> sudo apt-get install kde
[04:53] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: you have to start the install then choose "go back" to get to the install menu
[04:53] <Excaliber> AM i correct?
[04:53] <Valehru_Fedora> ahh ok..
[04:53] <Warbo> Ares: If you want to run it by just double-clicking it needs "execute" permissions
[04:53] <Valehru_Fedora> lemme reboot and check..
[04:53] <kronoz> arrick, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/
[04:53] <Valehru_Fedora> brb
[04:53] <[Chameleon] > Excaliber: no. you're off-topic
[04:53] <Excaliber> I'm just asking.
[04:53] <arrick> thank you kronoz
[04:53] <Excaliber> Am i correct?
[04:53] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: um, you want the torrent link first?
[04:54] <[Chameleon] > Excaliber: I guess.... but using Synaptic or dselect are both easier.
[04:54] <Ares> Warbo: How would I do that?
[04:54] <orbin> Excaliber: kubuntu-desktop is recommended
[04:54] <Excaliber> Hmm you're right.
[04:54] <[Chameleon] > Ares: right-click file, click appropriate permissions boxes
[04:54] <Excaliber> Nobody talks or needs help in kubuntu.
[04:54] <Excaliber> lol
[04:54] <[Chameleon] > Excaliber: cuz KDE is boring
[04:54] <Excaliber> No its no.
[04:55] <Excaliber> not*
[04:55] <Excaliber> That's your opinion.
[04:55] <[Chameleon] >  /ignore Excaliber
[04:55] <bicky> I want to change my screenresolution with a single quick command, like "set screenresolution 800x600" is this posible ?
[04:55] <Excaliber> Lol.
[04:55] <Ares> OK sweet thanks
[04:55] <robin__> bicky, in GNOME you can, but if you want to change it forever you got to edit the X config
[04:56] <orbin> robin__: not w/ a single command though surely
[04:56] <robin__> well orbin
[04:56] <minerale> Excaliber: thanks, (right now i'm stuck in cmd line mode)... how can I figure out the horizontal and vertical sync range for my monitor?
[04:57] <robin__> you could try a sed and then a user kill to restart the session
[04:57] <erudified> erm, my ubuntu CD seems to be fubar'd, what is the root password set to before I get the chance to set it?
[04:57] <Warbo> orbin: I don't think there is a command to do that, but there may be some kind of variable to change?
[04:57] <robin__> that way you could do it in one line
[04:57] <robin__> :)
[04:57] <orbin> bicky: just make a shortcut to gnome-display-properties
[04:57] <[Chameleon] > Valehru_Fedora: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-6/
[04:57] <Excaliber> Hmm.
[04:57] <Excaliber> I was speaking to Fedora.
[04:57] <Excaliber> And you decided to go on kde?
[04:57] <erudified> holy fuck the root account is disabled?
[04:57] <Warbo> minerale: get a console browser, like lynx, and go on google
[04:58] <orbin> !language
[04:58] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[04:58] <[Chameleon] > minerale: google the monitor info (model)
[04:58] <_jason> ubotu: tell erudified about root
[04:58] <Warbo> erudified: Don't swear. Root has a random password, to discourage it's use
[04:58] <[Chameleon] > !sudo
[04:58] <ubotu> I heard sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:58] <erudified> whoah, FUCK ubuntu
[04:58] <Excaliber> Yes thats correct chameleon.
[04:58] <_jason> !ops
[04:58] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[04:58] <Seveas> _jason, ?
[04:58] <Excaliber> ?
[04:58] <Hobbsee> !+language
[04:58] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[04:59] <_jason> Seveas: erudified left, never mind
[04:59] <Hobbsee> darn
[04:59] <Seveas> Hobbsee, you're too slow 
[04:59] <Ares> How do I log in as the super user X-/
[04:59] <Seveas> you should work on your larting
[04:59] <Seveas> Ares, you don't
[04:59] <[Chameleon] > Hobbsee, _jason: the potty mouth left
[04:59] <Seveas> !tell ares about root
[04:59] <Hobbsee> Seveas: heh.  it's 1am, i'm tired, and was chattign in another window
[04:59] <Excaliber> Ok?
[04:59] <Warbo> Ares: It is possible, but just use sudo
[04:59] <Hobbsee> Seveas: and i dont have decent scripting, like you do.
[05:00] <Seveas> Hobbsee, which client?
[05:00] <Hobbsee> Seveas: konv
[05:00] <[Chameleon] > Seveas: OIC, heh, thanks.
[05:00] <Seveas> hmm - don't know that one  Is it scriptable at all?
[05:00] <gsong> hi there...
[05:00] <Seveas> hi gsong
[05:00] <gsong> I have a quick question....
[05:01] <gsong> I just installed ubuntu for the first time (nice, BTW)....
[05:01] <jmoncayo> how can i know my signal strength for my wireless connection?
[05:01] <gsong> and it's my first real experience with X-windows....(been using CLI based linux for a long time now)
[05:01] <Hobbsee> Seveas: partially.  so i have /op, /deop, /kick, /ban, /kickban, but not a lot else.  adn it doesnt seem that i can run the commands together
[05:02] <gsong> during the install I accidentally hit "enter" during the resolution choices and now my highest resolution is 1024x768
[05:02] <jerdman> what's the channel name for dapper?
[05:02] <gsong> any idea how I can add more?
[05:02] <_jason> jerdman: #ubuntu+1
[05:02] <Hobbsee> jerdman: ubuntu+1
[05:02] <tritium_> jerdman: #ubuntu+1
[05:02] <jerdman> thx
[05:02] <Hobbsee> lol
[05:02] <orbin> ubotu: tell gsong about fixres
[05:02] <Warbo> gsong: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal
[05:02] <Ares> When I try and use the .run file it says I have to be logged in as super user, so does that mean I HAVE do use the terminal to run the file?
[05:02] <[Chameleon] > Hobbsee: :)
[05:02] <Seveas> Hobbsee, "edgy"
[05:02] <jmoncayo> how can i know my signal strength for my wireless connection?
[05:02] <_jason> Ares: what are you trying to run?
[05:02] <Hobbsee> true
[05:02] <Ares> ati drivers
[05:03] <luis16> ola
[05:03] <jbroome> jmoncayo: iwconfig
[05:03] <[Chameleon] > jmoncayo: NetworkMonitor
[05:03] <_jason> ubotu: tell Ares about ati
[05:03] <gsong> Warbo: in a x-term or switch over to a regular term?
[05:03] <Warbo> Ares: It is better to use the terminal anyway, because if it goes wrong it can tell you why. (Double clicking can just end up with no response)
[05:03] <orbin> Ares: are you following the wiki page?
[05:03] <acid-trip> how can i recompile a package?
[05:03] <[Chameleon] > jbroome, jmoncayo: NetworkMonitor is the better long-term comprehensive solution
[05:03] <jmoncayo> jbroome, where do i see the strength with iwconfig
[05:03] <_jason> Hobbsee: you need a script that will trigger on bad words and paste the appropriate ban command into your client so you just press enter
[05:03] <luis16> ablais espol
[05:03] <Warbo> gsong: Either, it uses ncurses so it will work in normal console
[05:03] <_jason> !es
[05:03] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:03] <Hobbsee> _jason: now there's an idea!
[05:04] <jmoncayo> [Chameleon] , do i need to install it or it comes by default?
[05:04] <Ares> Yea I am orbin, but I always seem to get information about something totally different :-p
[05:04] <mindtzar> how do I kill xserver from shell
[05:04] <mindtzar> :\
[05:04] <orbin> Ares: how so?
[05:05] <CompuChip_> Hi
[05:05] <minerale> Hi, I googled the monitor and the graphic card was recognised w/out problems, however I see small vertican lines flickering in the monitor
[05:05] <Dutchy> Hey guys I was wondering if I could use all 4 speakers to play my music? In Windows the nvidia drivers of my soundchip let me 'copy' the music to the rear speakers, is there a similar option here?
[05:05] <Warbo> mindtzar: To keep all of the pid files and stuff from screwing up use "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[05:05] <[Chameleon] > jmoncayo: I believe you have to install it
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[05:05] <loothinker> kill xserver
[05:05] <CompuChip_> I just did my first Ubuntu install. It got to the end of the procedure and I removed the CD and rebooted as requested, but now it asks for a runlevel
[05:06] <Warbo> minerale: My Fedora did that really badly, it was the refresh rate
[05:06] <phewl> I LOVE UBUNTU :D
[05:06] <jmoncayo> [Chameleon] , oki thanks a lot
[05:06] <[Chameleon] > jmoncayo: wy, have fun.
[05:06] <Ares> _jason: Thanks, thats exactly what I needed
[05:06] <CompuChip_> Can anyone tell me what to do :)
[05:06] <orbin> phewl: kewl
[05:07] <[Chameleon] > CompuChip_: 2
[05:07] <orbin> minerale: pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:07] <CompuChip_> I tried 1, 2, 5 and 7
[05:07] <CompuChip_> It just says "No more processes in this runlevel" and stops
[05:08] <Warbo> CompuChip: I don't know what would cause this, but don't use 1 or 6
[05:08] <[Chameleon] > CompuChip_: at what point is it asking you this? from the grub boot menu?
[05:08] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: 1 is ok for diag.
[05:08] <CompuChip_> yep
[05:08] <CompuChip_> I installed LILO btw, instead of GRUB
[05:08] <[Chameleon] > CompuChip_: why LILO?
[05:08] <Warbo> Chameleon: I thought 2 was single user an 1 was shutdown and 6 was reboot?
[05:08] <CompuChip_> I think it said: "Booting the kernel.... ok. No inittab file found. Enter runlevel: "
[05:08] <Dutchy> my question anyone? it's like about to get spammed of the screen :) up there ^^
[05:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> Warbo, on debian 2-5 are all the same level, full gui
[05:09] <CompuChip_> Then I entered 2 and 5 and it went to "No more processes in this runlevel"
[05:09] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: execute `runlevel` in a terminal
[05:09] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: you should be in runlevel 2 right now
[05:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> 1 is single user, and 0 and6 are halt and reboot
[05:09] <me2win> Dutchy: im not sure if you can do that or not, im sure there is some way, just have to find it. Try the ubuntu forums, or wait till its not so spammy in here :P
[05:09] <orbin> Dutchy: you probably need to play around w/ alsa for surround setups
[05:09] <[Chameleon] > CompuChip_: Why LILO???
[05:09] <CompuChip_> I don't know. Why not
[05:09] <tritium_> CompuChip_: grub is default
[05:10] <Dutchy> ok ill check it out, thanks
[05:10] <acid-trip> how can i recompile a package?
[05:10] <[Chameleon] > CompuChip_: unless you have hardware specific reasons to use LILO, you should use GRUB. It's newer and better.
[05:10] <Warbo> Chameleon: So I am. I haven't used runlevels since "telinit 2" and stuff in Fedora to stop GDM. Now I use the init.d scripts instead
[05:10] <CompuChip_> OK
[05:10] <CompuChip_> Can it be changed without full reinstall?
[05:10] <[Chameleon] > CompuChip_: not easily
[05:10] <Warbo> acid-trip: You can do it from the actual source using checkinstall
[05:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> [Chameleon] , just apt it in surely
[05:10] <orbin> acid-trip: recompile or reinstall?
[05:11] <acid-trip> orbin, recompile
[05:11] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: yup. btw, "S" is a pseudonym for 1
[05:11] <acid-trip> i need to recompile mysql and allow php
[05:11] <CompuChip_> [Chameleon]  but I just reinstalled in expert mode because I got the same with the default install (grub)
[05:11] <acid-trip> or some crap like that
[05:11] <[Chameleon] > Kamping_Kaiser: and how is he to boot into the system? rescue?
[05:11] <tritium_> acid-trip: apt-get source --build <package> (may also need build-dep)
[05:11] <[Chameleon] > CompuChip_: ... strange
[05:11] <CompuChip_> I thought it might be that, but appearantly it wasn't. So I can do the reinstall but I don't think it's gonna solve the problem
[05:11] <orbin> acid-trip: someone given you the !lamp factoid yet?
[05:12] <CompuChip_> wait I take this laptop down to the pc I was working on
[05:12] <bookworm> could some one explain how to incorperate jave into firefox
[05:12] <Warbo> acid-trip: Sounds more like a post-install config change is needed
[05:12] <CompuChip_> I'll tell you exactly what it says
[05:12] <Warbo> bookworm: There is a j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin package
[05:12] <[Chameleon] > CompuChip_: how did you setup your partitions? the only thing I can think of is that you have a working /boot partition but something is wrong with your / (root) partition.
[05:12] <acid-trip> orbin, ya
[05:12] <acid-trip> Warbo, this is the error i get  You must have the MySQL PHP module installed
[05:12] <martyn> how would i mount a fat32 hdb so that is was always there on boot up
[05:13] <bookworm> thanks
[05:13] <orbin> martyn: add it to /etc/fstab
[05:13] <orbin> ubotu: tell martyn abot windowsdrives
[05:13] <Warbo> acid-trip: Sorry, I don't know much about it but generally the packages are set up to let anything work, with added functions provided by other packages
[05:13] <CompuChip_> It's Loading Linux... detecting hardware, blalba.
[05:13] <orbin> martyn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:13] <martyn> orbin: did not get anything pop up there
[05:13] <martyn> orbin: cheers
[05:13] <acid-trip> orbin, i found the info i needed on that lamp site
[05:14] <acid-trip> :D
[05:14] <[Chameleon] > CompuChip_: so much for my missing root idea.
[05:14] <CompuChip_> "Mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. \n * Version 2.86 booting \n * No inittab file found \n\n Enter runlevel: "
[05:14] <orbin> martyn: yeah, forgot the trigger
[05:14] <tritium_> acid-trip: it's rare that you'd need to recompile a package just for an option like that
[05:14] <CompuChip_> So I enter 2 now
[05:14] <CompuChip_> "* Entering runlevel: 2 \n * no more processes left in this runlevel". And now it just sits there forever ;)
[05:14] <k31th> Is it possible to run virtualdub under wine ?
[05:14] <orbin> acid-trip: lol
[05:15] <[Chameleon] > CompuChip_: reboot and try "S" in the runlevel prompt
[05:15] <CompuChip_> ok
[05:15] <orbin> acid-trip: it helps if you actually read the stuff doesn't it?
[05:15] <k31th> any avidemux users in here?
[05:15] <[Chameleon] > probably effectively the same as 1, but... worth a try.
[05:15] <CompuChip_> there goes again
[05:15] <[Chameleon] > CompuChip_: again tho, how did you setup the partitions?
[05:15] <acid-trip> orbin, yeah it does
[05:15] <acid-trip> lol
[05:16] <[Chameleon] > CompuChip_: automatic or manually?
[05:16] <CompuChip_> I made a 5 GB root
[05:16] <orbin> acid-trip: did that myself today re: upgrading firefox to 1.5.0.2
[05:16] <CompuChip_> 1.2 /home, some data partitions, and 400 MB swap
[05:16] <CompuChip_> "sulogin: cannot open password database!" and back to runlevel prompt
[05:17] <acid-trip> lol
[05:17] <Lingan_swe> Hi, Got some problem with entrance / enlightenment, enlightenment works perfect when i used gdm, now I installed entranced, i get the login windows, enter namne / password, then the screen  gets black for 1 few seceonds, then it return to entrances login screeen, where should i begin ?
[05:17] <[Chameleon] > CompuChip_: it seems something is wrong with your root partition...
[05:17] <CompuChip_> I was afraid you were gonna say that now :)
[05:17] <[Chameleon] > CompuChip_: willing to try the automatic partition setup?
[05:17] <CompuChip_> OK
[05:18] <Warbo> Does anybody think it is possible to vnc or similar into my main Ubuntu from a crappy laptop? I just don't want to start trying if it's hopeless. Laptop has 32MB RAM, ~200MHz processor. I was thinking a BSD would run faster than Linux
[05:18] <[Chameleon] > CompuChip_: reinstall and use the automatic partitioning option.
[05:18] <[Chameleon] > CompuChip_: breezy or dapper?
[05:18] <CompuChip_> I used that first. Then deleted the root partition it created and re-divided it
[05:18] <[Chameleon] > CompuChip_: both times?
[05:18] <CompuChip_> yep
[05:18] <Dyslexic_Dog> I'm having problems with the usb on my laptop was wondering if anyone else is running a ze5100 HP laptop
[05:19] <CompuChip_> bootprompt: linux or expert?
[05:19] <[Chameleon] > CompuChip_: try auto partition and if it seems to work OK after it's done, please file a bug.
[05:19] <Warbo> Dyslexic_Dog: Is it the USB ports themselves, or just something plugged into them?
[05:19] <[Chameleon] > CompuChip_: up to u... expert takes a lot longer
[05:19] <iratsu> what's a nice software for doing euclidean geometry?
[05:19] <arrick> kronoz I am not finding the information for multiple webs on the apache server there, goat any others?
[05:19] <CompuChip_> ok
[05:19] <Dyslexic_Dog> well in dmesg is says that the usb has been disabled
[05:19] <CompuChip_> I'll redo the whole thing and let you know how it worked out
[05:19] <Dyslexic_Dog> I have alot of data on this
[05:20] <Dyslexic_Dog> been having the problem in breezy and dapper
[05:20] <[Chameleon] > Dyslexic_Dog: does it say why USB is disabled?
[05:20] <CompuChip_> zzzz.... anyway, thanks for the help :D
[05:20] <Dyslexic_Dog> yeah I'll CnP just a sec
[05:20] <acid-trip> this is going to sound really stupid
[05:20] <acid-trip> how do i find out what group my user belongs to?
[05:20] <Warbo> Dyslexic_Dog: What kind of Linux experience do you have? I won't bother helping if you're a pro, cos I'm not :)
[05:20] <[Chameleon] > CompuChip|Instal: good luck. and again, if auto partitioning works, please file a bug on the custom setup procedure you used.
[05:20] <Warbo> acid-trip: The System>Administration>Users and Groups
[05:20] <martyn> guys am confused lol i am trying to mount  a fat32 hdb to my system have been look at ur guide and dont understand it can any 1 help
[05:20] <CompuChip|Instal> OK, thanks
[05:20] <loothinker> [acid] type "id"
[05:21] <orbin> iratsu: apt-cache search euclidean geometry :P
[05:21] <patrip> hola
[05:21] <patrip> caracola
[05:21] <[Chameleon] > Dyslexic_Dog: if it's more than 3 lines, use #flood or pastebin
[05:21] <Dyslexic_Dog> it's 3 lines
[05:21] <martyn> guys am confused lol i am trying to mount  a fat32 hdb to my system have been look at ur guide and dont understand it can any 1 help
[05:21] <Dyslexic_Dog> but I can pastebin the dmesg output
[05:21] <Dyslexic_Dog> [4294962.776000]  ohci_hcd 0000:00:0f.0: HC died; cleaning up
[05:21] <Dyslexic_Dog> [4294962.776000]  usb 2-1: USB disconnect, address 2
[05:21] <Dyslexic_Dog> [4294962.776000]  ohci_hcd 0000:00:0f.0: leak ed dea05040 (#81) state 0 (has tds)
[05:21] <tritium_> Dyslexic_Dog: don't paste here!
[05:22] <Dyslexic_Dog> oops thats 4
[05:22] <patrip> esque nbo sabeis ablar en espaol
[05:22] <tritium_> !es
[05:22] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:22] <Dyslexic_Dog> now I get a couple different messages
[05:23] <Dyslexic_Dog> but that seems to be the main one when my usb mouse dies
[05:23] <orbin> martyn: pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[05:23] <Dyslexic_Dog> it also poos out on me when I'm using my flash drive
[05:23] <patrip> bosotros os podeis conectar al msn com linux
[05:23] <patrip> porque yo no piedo
[05:23] <Warbo> martyn: You cannot mount "hdb" as that is the drive. It must be a partition, like "hdb1"
[05:23] <tritium_> patrip: english here please
[05:24] <patrip> esque no se
[05:24] <Dyslexic_Dog> also on a side note I didn't have this issue with gentoo but I think ubuntu is over all a better distro
[05:24] <[Chameleon] > Dyslexic_Dog: seems like the usb driver doesn't like your hardware
[05:24] <martyn> orbin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12445
[05:24] <tritium_> patrip: entonces, /j #ubuntu-es
[05:24] <[Chameleon] > Dyslexic_Dog: did you use maybe uhci drivers?
[05:24] <Dyslexic_Dog> I've tried ehci and uhci but neither will start
[05:24] <patrip> que pasa ?
[05:24] <martyn> Warbo: can i not mount hdb at then
[05:24] <patrip> si yo no se ingles
[05:24] <[Chameleon] > Dyslexic_Dog: what's your chipset?
[05:24] <martyn> Warbo: or would it be hdb1
[05:24] <Dyslexic_Dog> is there a way to get ubuntu to start the uhci at boot instead of ohci?
[05:25] <[Chameleon] > !tell patrip about es
[05:25] <Dyslexic_Dog> it's a ali chipset
[05:25] <patrip> hello
[05:25] <patrip> what ?
[05:25] <Warbo> martyn: I am assuming that hdb is a windows hard drive, which windows calls C:. In fact it is the first partition on that drive that contains windows
[05:26] <orbin> martyn: from the fdisk output...you don't seem to have any partitions formatted in fat32
[05:26] <Warbo> martyn: hdb1 is the first partition, up to hdb4. After that they are special "extended partitions" which I dount will contain windows
[05:26] <orbin> :-/
[05:26] <patrip> esque no sabeis otro puto idioma
[05:26] <Warbo> doubt
[05:26] <martyn> Warbo: No its just old drive i have which i would like to use in linux and windows
[05:26] <acid-trip> i really broke something
[05:26] <acid-trip> lol
[05:26] <[Chameleon] > martyn: where do you want it to be mounted?
[05:26] <tritium_> patrip: /j #ubuntu-es
[05:26] <Warbo> martyn: Try mounting it without any type, it may be autodetected. Then run "mount" with no options
[05:27] <[Chameleon] > martyn: /media/storage sound OK?
[05:27] <patrip> where do you want it to be mounted?
[05:27] <acid-trip> sudo apt-get remove apache --purge would remove everything right?
[05:27] <[Chameleon] > Dyslexic_Dog: breezy or dapper?
[05:27] <gnomefreak> apache and the config files thats it
[05:27] <orbin> [Chameleon] : have you seen his fdisk output?
[05:27] <martyn> Wow guys 2 sec lol right i used gParted to format the hdb in fat32 format
[05:27] <sheeana> hello w0rld.
[05:27] <patrip> where my books?
[05:27] <Dyslexic_Dog> both have the same problem with the same error message
[05:27] <[Chameleon] > orbin: yes
[05:27] <patrip> yes?
[05:28] <martyn> i want to be able to wright to it in linux and be able to see files in windows
[05:28] <orbin> [Chameleon] : er, i couldn't see any fat32 partitions.  what exactly is he going to mount?
[05:28] <Warbo> martyn: I find gParted quite bad. QTParted always works for me (that's not a KDEvsGNOME, that's a quality of program issue)
[05:29] <acid-trip> i think i really broke something
[05:29] <acid-trip> lol
[05:29] <martyn> Warbo: ok so ill use QTparted for synaptic
[05:29] <patrip> i want to be able to wright to it in linux and be able to see files in windows
[05:29] <patrip> kien sabe espaol?
[05:29] <orbin> Warbo: heard the same thing.  why ist that?  don't they use the same "engine"?
[05:29] <_jason> patrip: /join #ubuntu-es
[05:29] <[Chameleon] > orbin: ah, I looked closer. he's got NTFS partitions, but can't write to those....
[05:29] <orbin> s/ist/is
[05:29] <patrip> que no seeeee?
[05:29] <erUSUL> !tell patrip about es
[05:29] <Dyslexic_Dog> chameleon: I have the same issue on both versions
[05:29] <Warbo> martyn: Sure. It needs a few KDE libraries if you don't have them (may take some time on dial-up) but runs fine in GNOME.
[05:30] <arrick> gnomefreak, buenos dias, noches, or tardes
[05:30] <Centaur5> patrip: las personas en ubuntu-es saben espanol
[05:30] <arrick> how are you today?
[05:30] <gnomefreak> arrick: hello
[05:30] <orbin> [Chameleon] : indeed
[05:30] <[Chameleon] > Dyslexic_Dog: i saw that. not sure what to tell ya. google?
[05:30] <martyn> Warbo: dude its kool got a 10mb lne here
[05:30] <Dyslexic_Dog> yeah
[05:30] <arrick> gnomefreak, you good with apache2?
[05:30] <[Chameleon] > orbin: but, his goal is to have a vfat partition to write to
[05:30] <Dyslexic_Dog> chameleon: lots of cryptic kernel message boards
[05:30] <Warbo> orbin: No idea. GParted always tells me I cannot use a drive because it is active, no matter what partition I choose (yes, they were not mounted :))
[05:31] <arrick> bur[n] er, I recommend not doing it at all, I have a gig of ram and it still is veeeerrrryryy slow
[05:31] <aaronshaf> is there a CMI e-mail client on Ubuntu?
[05:31] <[Chameleon] > Dyslexic_Dog: bummer.
[05:31] <aaronshaf> er, CLI
[05:31] <[Chameleon] > aaronshaf: mutt
[05:31] <orbin> [Chameleon] : oh, i was under the impression he already had one and just wanted it mounted
[05:31] <erUSUL> aaronshaf, mutt, pine, elm, mailx, etc...
[05:31] <bur[n] er> arrick: true, i just updated to a gig and it's slow ;)  cpu is only a p4 1.8 here though
[05:32] <orbin> arrick, bur[n] er : really?  i ran ubrello and it seemed to run ok
[05:32] <orbin> s/ubrello/umbrello
[05:32] <mephis1987> hello how can i use my webcam in Ubuntu
[05:32] <arrick> bur[n] er, orbin i have a fast processor,and its still doggy
[05:32] <aaronshaf> I can't get pine with apt-get
[05:32] <TTilus> mephis1987: plug it in
[05:32] <TTilus> :)
[05:33] <TTilus> mephis1987: which cam do you have?
[05:33] <acid-trip> http://pastebin.com/665151
[05:33] <[Chameleon] > orbin: I think we all were under that impression.... including him.
[05:33] <Warbo> mephis1987: I was just about to ask about WebCam support (just got a new webcam a few mins ago)
[05:33] <TTilus> mephis1987: seriously, you should just plug it in and look what happens
[05:34] <pepias> hola
[05:34] <orbin> [Chameleon] : lol
[05:34] <mephis1987> my cam called lebPro eca
[05:34] <[Chameleon] > !tell pepias about es
[05:34] <mephis1987> TTilus, no thing happens
[05:34] <ubuntu> how do i set up static ip for my dhcp ?
[05:34] <martyn> ok i have formated that Disk
[05:35] <TTilus> mephis1987: check with ekiga/gnomemeeting or like
[05:35] <arrick> anyone know how to run multiple web pages in apache2? I cant find it in the wiki, nor on the apache site.
[05:35] <Warbo> mephis1987: There won't be a "installing drivers" type thing, but try some sort of v4l program (if you know what that means)
[05:35] <ubuntu> how come i put this to my network interface but it didnt work
[05:35] <[Chameleon] > martyn: formatted it how? where?
[05:35] <TTilus> mephis1987: nothing should happen right away, like popup telling "heey, a camera this is, sorta"
[05:35] <CompuChip|Instal> By the way, what is the recommended / latest version?
[05:35] <ubuntu> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[05:35] <ubuntu> address 192.168.0.11
[05:35] <mephis1987> TTilus, the website of that cam is www.ipanwest.com
[05:35] <ubuntu> the ip always change, do you know?
[05:35] <pepias> chameleon escribenos bien no te entendemos (en espaol)
[05:35] <Warbo> arrick: Does Apache use /var/www directly or directories inside it (ie. Could you not just make a new directory in /var/www>)
[05:36] <[Chameleon] > ubuntu: check your router config. inquire with the manufacturer of that device.
[05:36] <CompuChip|Instal> Because I got the install CD from someone, and i just noticed it's version 5.04
[05:36] <TTilus> mephis1987: already tried gnomemeeting or other v4l dev?
[05:36] <ubuntu> oh
[05:36] <arrick> Warbo, it uses /var/www/ and I dont know how to change that
[05:36] <CompuChip|Instal> So maybe it was a bug and solved in a later version already?
[05:36] <TTilus> mephis1987: try it first, then if it does not work, we will look into details
[05:37] <martyn> [Chameleon] : qtparted to fat 32 fdisk is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12446
[05:37] <Warbo> arrick: What I mean is does Apache use, for example, /var/www/index.html, or /var/www/site1/index.html. If the latter you could make a directory site2
[05:37] <TTilus> mephis1987: no use analyzing if it is not broken (taken you are not a scientist doing research on webcams)
[05:37] <ubuntu> [Chameleon] . i checked it
[05:37] <[Chameleon] > CompuChip|Instal: maybe... 5.10 breezy badger is latest stable. 6.06 dapper drake is next version due in late beta testing now.
[05:37] <arrick> it uses /var/www/index.html directly
[05:38] <orbin> CompuChip|Instal: recommended is breezy badger: 5.10
[05:38] <CompuChip|Instal> Ah, ok.
[05:38] <[Chameleon] > ubuntu: and?? do you have it configured to always give you the same IP?
[05:38] <Warbo> Chameleon: Which distro is now unsupported? It's 4.x isn't it?
[05:38] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: I believe so
[05:38] <arrick> Warbo, but I can change that, but I want to open the sites using the name, not haveing to browse the directory
[05:38] <CompuChip|Instal> Now I see something familiar :)
[05:38] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: but maybe that's still supported until Dapper
[05:38] <CompuChip|Instal> Starting ubuntu... with a long list showing [ok] 's
[05:39] <[Chameleon] > CompuChip|Instal: so it's working?
[05:39] <jStefan> When using ls -l (long listing format). What does the 1st number mean?
[05:39] <martyn> [Chameleon] : any ideas
[05:39] <CompuChip|Instal> Looks that way.
[05:39] <TTilus> support is 1.5 years, not upto specific release
[05:39] <ubuntu> [Chameleon] , i dont have that option in my router
[05:39] <Warbo> arrick: I get what you mean, but I thought it was automatic, the only setup required is pointing one web address to one site and another web address to the other site
[05:39] <TTilus> so 5.4 support is over already
[05:39] <CompuChip|Instal> It's starting up daemons so I guess it can access the user database no
[05:39] <TTilus> afaik
[05:39] <arrick> Warbo, it might be, but how do I set that part?
[05:40] <[Chameleon] > ubuntu: then I guess you don't have that option.
[05:40] <ubuntu> so what i have to do CHameleon?
[05:40] <eugman> Hey how can I delete custom file associations I've made?
[05:40] <martyn> Warbo: you got any ideas thats it formated to fat32
[05:40] <[Chameleon] > ubuntu: check for updates to your router firmware from manufacturer.
[05:40] <Warbo> arrick: Sorry, I gave up when I couldn't get DynDNS to find me (It was pointing to my router, and when I used scripts to automatically point DynDNS to me it changed to 192.168.1.4!)
[05:41] <[Chameleon] > martyn: you just want to mount it now??
[05:41] <[Chameleon] > martyn: at every bootup?
[05:41] <jStefan> When using ls -l (long listing format). What is the number between the permissions and the user/group ?
[05:41] <CompuChip|Instal> Looks like I got to the next step in the installation. Thank you so much [Chameleon] 
[05:41] <martyn> [Chameleon]  yes
[05:41] <[Chameleon] > CompuChip|Instal: cool.
[05:41] <arrick> Warbo, you needed to foward ports on your router, in order for dyndns to work, but I use no-ip, and it works fine
[05:41] <CompuChip_> And if you do it right, it takes ~30 minutes. Try that with windows xp :P
[05:42] <Warbo> martyn: use the "fstab -l" to see if it is fat32. Then the "mount" command will mount it, and once you find the right options for that you can put them in /etc/fstab to be run every time
[05:42] <[Chameleon] > martyn: download and run this using sudo:  http://smorgasbord.net/files/winmac_fstab
[05:42] <Warbo> arrick: I know, but that didn't work (and mldonkey says my ports are not accessible, but I am supposedly forwarding those to)
[05:42] <psweetma> hi, my dapper install crashes when i try to change screen resolution.  where would i find a logfile that tells me what's going wrong?
[05:42] <martyn> Warbo: it keeps telling me its linux in fdisk
[05:43] <[Chameleon] > martyn: http://smorgasbord.net/files/winmac_fstab
[05:43] <angie83> hi everyone
[05:43] <arrick> Warbo, your isp probably blocks them then, you can try dif port numbers though, try 8080, or higher even
[05:43] <angie83> can anyone here. help me to install ubuntu from ISO on hd? I already got grub installed, and the installer runnning, but says, i does not find the iso...
[05:44] <Warbo> martyn: If QTParted or GParted didn't make it fat32 then "sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/hdb1" should do (Make sure you put the right partition though, as a typo could wipe the wrong drive!)
[05:44] <[Chameleon] > angie83: buring a CD is generally easier
[05:44] <TTilus> jStefan: jStefan number of hardlinks, see info coreutils ls
[05:44] <angie83> [Chameleon] ,  lapppy has not cd or NIC
[05:45] <angie83> [Chameleon] , just making new challenges ... :P
[05:45] <psweetma> hi, should phrase my q better... my x windows session crashes when i try to change screen res (takes me back to the login).  where would i find log of what's going wrong?
[05:45] <TTilus> jStefan: issue command $ info coreutils ls  and browse
[05:45] <TTilus> psweetma: /var/log/
[05:45] <[Chameleon] > angie83: can you switch to console 1 with Ctrl-Alt-F1 (C-A-F7 or -F8 to get back I think)??
[05:45] <orbin> psweetma: /var/log/Xorg.0.log maybe
[05:45] <eugman> Anyone know how to delete custom file associations?
[05:45] <jStefan> ok, will take a loolk, man didn't tell me much
[05:45] <martyn> Warbo: ok i just did ur comand there still tells me its linux u look here at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12447
[05:46] <nodie> hi
[05:46] <angie83> [Chameleon] , ? from the installler?
[05:46] <nodie> is this the support channel?
[05:46] <Warbo> psweetma: That is, it is logging out/crashing back to the login GDM screen? If it is dumping you into a console it would be a little different
[05:46] <[Chameleon] > angie83: yeah
[05:46] <TTilus> eugman: when you find out, tell me too  :)
[05:46] <psweetma> thanks TTilus
[05:46] <angie83> [Chameleon] , give me a min, i boot my lappy
[05:46] <RioMerc> hello
[05:46] <nodie> I've a problem installing ubuntu (5.10)
[05:46] <RioMerc> I have an unusual problem
[05:46] <TTilus> psweetma: gnu utils are best documented in info pages, not man
[05:46] <RioMerc> I had installed ubuntu
[05:47] <RioMerc> breezy
[05:47] <[Chameleon] > angie83: k. anyway, once you are in the console, you should be able to hit enter to start using it and then mount the ISO with the loopback device.
[05:47] <Dutchy> hmmm i downloaded alsamixergui but i have no idea what everthing means :P
[05:47] <RioMerc> I them made some extra space on my partrition
[05:47] <RioMerc> and installed windows
[05:47] <RioMerc> now
[05:47] <eugman> Hmm time to check the forums!
[05:47] <RioMerc> my problem is
[05:47] <Warbo> martyn: Try "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt" and see what happens (there should hopefully be no output)
[05:47] <RioMerc> I can't boot ubuntu
[05:47] <k31th> can i isntall a dapper package on breezy ?
[05:47] <nodie> we have here 15 machines (fujitsu siemens p4 1024MB RAM) and when the installation process is installing the base systems there is an error about initrd package
[05:47] <RioMerc> would anyone here be able to help?
[05:47] <orbin> k31th: it's best to stick to breezy packages
[05:47] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: http://smorgasbord.net/files/winmac_fstab
[05:47] <Warbo> RioMerc: What happens when your computer comes on?
[05:48] <RioMerc> just loads windows just like normal Warbo
[05:48] <martyn> Warbo: ok no output
[05:48] <RioMerc> no drama
[05:48] <angie83> [Chameleon] , i activated  a console
[05:48] <[Chameleon] > martyn: USE THIS: http://smorgasbord.net/files/winmac_fstab
[05:48] <Warbo> Chameleon: Yes, but mounting it then running mount should say what format it's in
[05:48] <jStefan> ok, thanks
[05:48] <orbin> RioMerc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:48] <angie83> [Chameleon] , now?
[05:48] <RioMerc> orbin: thanks
[05:48] <martyn> [Chameleon] : i have it only mount hda1 and hda5
[05:48] <Warbo> martyn: now run "mount" by itself and see what it says about /dev/hdb1
[05:48] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: if he runs that script it will find and mount all NTFS/VFAT drives.
[05:49] <angie83> nothing mounted?
[05:49] <angie83> ummm
[05:49] <[Chameleon] > Marticus: probably because those are your NTFS and VFAT drives.
[05:49] <sfar> how to make bold text with xchat?
[05:49] <[Chameleon] > Marticus: er, meant for martyn
[05:49] <psweetma> Warbo: yes sorry, that's right, back to the login
[05:50] <RioMerc> orbin: will that override my windows booter?
[05:50] <angie83> [Chameleon] , i am not a registered user, so i cannot talk private... :S
[05:50] <[Chameleon] > angie83: yeah
[05:50] <[Chameleon] > angie83: anyway, can you use the console?
[05:50] <martyn> Warbo: here is output from mount http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12448
[05:50] <orbin> RioMerc: you meant visat?
[05:50] <angie83> [Chameleon] , joiin #yeepa
[05:50] <RioMerc> orbin: XP
[05:50] <orbin> s/visat/vista
[05:51] <orbin> RioMerc: grub will write itself to the mbr iirc
[05:51] <RioMerc> oh
[05:51] <Warbo> psweetma: Hmmm. Usually the GNOME screen resolution tool is VERY careful to not screw up your desktop (by that I mean it doesn't give me any alternatives to default :))
[05:51] <eugman> TTilus, I think I found what I need to remove under ~/.local/share/applications/
[05:51] <RioMerc> Well, is there anyway to preserve my windows booter
[05:51] <RioMerc> thus allowing dual boots
[05:51] <eugman> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51012&highlight=remove+file+associations
[05:51] <TTilus> eugman: .local ?!
[05:51] <kbrooks> RioMerc: grub will detect windows
[05:52] <martyn> Warbo: here is output from mount http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12448
[05:52] <RioMerc> kbrooks: really?
[05:52] <bliss1_> arrick: the man happy easter
[05:52] <funman> hello
[05:52] <Warbo> martyn: Yes, it's taking a while to load :(
[05:52] <RioMerc> kbrooks: cool :)
[05:52] <RioMerc> ok
[05:52] <kbrooks> RioMerc: 100% sure
[05:52] <RioMerc> bye, i'm installing
[05:52] <martyn> warbo: ok cheers mate
[05:52] <arrick> bliss1_, doesnt help, thanks though
[05:52] <eugman> TTilus, could you be a bit more clear about your dismay?
[05:52] <psweetma> Warbo: so I may be stuck with the default, unless I go editing files by hand...?
[05:52] <TTilus> eugman: ah, ive got one too
[05:52] <RioMerc> but if it doesn't work i'm coming back, and i'm bringing hell with me
[05:52] <RioMerc> :D
[05:52] <RioMerc> bye
[05:53] <bliss1_> arrick: got your own little space
[05:53] <TTilus> eugman: just never stumbled upon that, i thought i knew what i had in my home dir  :)
[05:53] <arrick> yeah
[05:53] <Warbo> psweetma: That's what I found, but then I swiched my monitor with a better one and now I'm in a higher resolution
[05:53] <arrick> bliss1_, yeah
[05:53] <arrick> bliss1_, #arrick
[05:53] <eugman> TTilus, well is is hidden...
[05:53] <Warbo> psweetma: Automatically I mean
[05:53] <Emsko> how do I run .sh files?
[05:54] <psweetma> Warbo: hmm, not great, but at least i'm stuck in a decent res (1600x1200) i suppose!  i'll have a sniff around the logs and see what i can see.
[05:54] <TTilus> eugman: i am not newbie  :)
[05:54] <Warbo> psweetma: Wow! I'd be pleased with 1600x1200 myself :)
[05:55] <Warbo> martyn: STILL loading...
[05:55] <TTilus> eugman: mimeinfo.cache, mm, gotta remember
[05:55] <martyn> Warbo: lol
[05:55] <psweetma> Warbo: yeah, but the refresh rate is cr*p (60Hz)..  btw, should ctrl-alt-F1 / F2 etc. take me to a text console in default Ubuntu install, coz it ain't?
[05:56] <Warbo> martyn: OK, everything is fine and it is fat32. Now you can unmount it ("sudo umount /mnt")
[05:56] <martyn> Warbo: ok done that
[05:57] <Warbo> psweetma: It should, but I found in an older installation (my HD failed so I'm in a better (Dapper) system now) that GNOME and X conflicted and Ctrl-Alt-Anything didn't work, and Win keys didn't either (had to skip tracks manually in Amarok)
[05:57] <Warbo> martyn: Right, now run "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[05:57] <martyn> Warbo: ok done that
[05:59] <Warbo> martyn: OK, add a new line and put /dev/hdb1 in the device column, wherever you want it mounted in the mount point column (maybe /windows or something?) and "defaults" in the options. It may be easier to copy/paste another line and change it, rather than start from scratch
[05:59] <orbin> Warbo: fyi, people are recommending to use gksudo instead of sudo w/ gui apps now
[06:00] <psweetma> Warbo: thanks.  actually although the screen is blank i just managed to log into the ctrl-alt-f1 terminal and issue a cat > x command, so it must 'just' be graphics driver problems
[06:00] <Warbo> martyn: Oh yeah, put "vfat" in type
[06:00] <martyn> Warbo: so it would be  "/dev/hdb1  /media/sda1 vfat rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0"
[06:00] <Warbo> orbin: OK, I'll bear that in mind (was going to say nano, but thought key combos would get comfusing)
[06:00] <joeb> hello all, I used to be a KDE user until a played with Ubuntu, and I used to use Quanta alot, I was wondering if there was a gnome equivalent (yes I know quanta will run :)
[06:00] <[Chameleon] > Warbo, psweetma: my desktop is 2560x1024
[06:01] <Dutchy> yay speakers work, duplicate stereo ftw
[06:01] <orbin> Warbo: i try and recommend nano myself.  at least they'll learn how to use a console mode editor
[06:02] <Warbo> martyn: Well the "/media/sda1" bit is where your USB drive gets put. You don't want that (cos you can't access both at the same time) and also, adding "static" mounts (ones that woun't be plugged and unplugged) is usually best in /mnt. Try changing that bit to /mnt/windows
[06:02] <kbrooks> joeb: bluefish?
[06:02] <psweetma> Chameleon: size isn't everything!  ;-)
[06:02] <Warbo> Anybody know what the fmask and dmask options are in fstab? I don't
[06:02] <joeb> kbrooks: cool ta, does that do php, c, java nicely as well?
[06:02] <Emsko> I'm trying to install something that comes in a .sh file. How do I do this?
[06:03] <[Chameleon] > psweetma: you are right.... it's how you use it... and I'm using XGL with compiz.
[06:03] <Warbo> Emsko: In a terminal put "sh /path/to/file"
[06:03] <[Chameleon] > psweetma: it's totally sweet
[06:03] <Emsko> thanks Warbo
[06:03] <jadaz87> can anyone tell me what graphic audo programming languages are included in ubuntu like jMAX, PD, open sound world, gALAN?
[06:03] <Warbo> martyn: Done yet? (don't close it yet)
[06:04] <duncanm> any nvidia users here?
[06:04] <duncanm> i can't start X in dapper
[06:04] <duncanm> it says Module nvidia not found
[06:04] <gnomefreak> duncanm: what card?
[06:05] <Warbo> duncanm: What driver you using (ubuntu one, or from nvidia dite)
[06:05] <Warbo> site
[06:05] <psweetma> Chameleon:  compiz is a new one on me, but looks cool from a quick glimpse on wikipedia
[06:05] <[Chameleon] > psweetma: roger, I can confirm it is indeed cool.
[06:05] <eugman> Hey I'm trying to make it so I can run a terminal program in grnome terminal when I double click a certian file type but adding the argument -e doesn't seem to be enough. any ideas?
[06:05] <ejofee> how do i find out which packages are there on my computer that no other package(s) depends on?
[06:05] <Warbo> Chameleon: I don't like compiz. It's nice, but not enough options yet. (I usually have Amarok oscilloscope and spectrum analyser on top and sticky. Can't do that in Compoz yet)
[06:06] <duncanm> Warbo: ubuntu one
[06:06] <duncanm> gnomefreak: i have a weird card, but it was working on breezy
[06:06] <Warbo> duncanm: Have you tried "sudo modprobe nvidia" first?
[06:06] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: I agree. I miss on top & sticky and other options.
[06:06] <duncanm> Warbo: yeah
[06:06] <duncanm> Warbo: says module not found
[06:06] <duncanm> Warbo: but i have nvidia-glx installed
[06:06] <gnomefreak> duncanm: weird doesnt help much and did you run the sudo nvidia.glx command?
[06:07] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: but, they are not necessary. transparency allows me to achive similar results. for example, I was watching a DVD behind the IRC window since it was transparent.
[06:07] <BobC2> Hi Everyone!  I'd like to Dualboot now  I tried at first but a failed floppy drive prevented loading Win98SE so only Ubuntu now. Easier to remove Ubuntu and do Windows 1st then Ubuntu again or...?
[06:07] <gnomefreak> duncanm: the enable command?
[06:07] <duncanm> i did
[06:07] <Warbo> duncanm: OK. I've found pretty much every problem with nvidia has happened to me over the years.
[06:07] <gnomefreak> duncanm: is it a card that you installed or onboard card?
[06:07] <DShepherd> BobC2: i think so. that;s how i did it
[06:07] <duncanm> gnomefreak: something i installed
[06:07] <duncanm> i have a Device          "3D Fuzion"
[06:07] <[C] hris> aw 3ddesktop is fun
[06:08] <Warbo> BobC2: Always install Linux after windows, if possible.
[06:08] <gnomefreak> duncanm: did you disable the onboard one and did you set the right pci slot bus?
[06:08] <duncanm> Warbo: well, if you could help me, that'd be awesome
[06:08] <BobC2> DShepherd  ahh Ok   too bad was hoping to recover GURB or such?
[06:08] <angie83> [C] hris, giving a hotkey to 3ddesktop is more fun !!!
[06:08] <psweetma> so what can i read into the fact that i can change res using ctrl-alt-+ but when i use the gnome-display-properties gdm/X crashes...?
[06:08] <duncanm> gnomefreak: i had it working in breezy
[06:08] <BobC2> DShepherd grub*
[06:08] <[C] hris> angie83, i just created an icon and added to my panel
[06:08] <duncanm> i botched my upgrade to dapper, but now i'm back up and running, as much as i can tell
[06:08] <angie83> [C] hris, run $3ddesktop --toright
[06:08] <duncanm> the only thing missing is X
[06:08] <gnomefreak> duncanm: what ar eyou using now?
[06:08] <DShepherd> BobC2: got you that first time
[06:08] <angie83> [C] hris, or sthing like that, read man, reallly cool
[06:08] <duncanm> gnomefreak: my laptop
[06:09] <duncanm> gnomefreak: dapper is on my desktop
[06:09] <gnomefreak> duncanm: what version of ubuntu?
[06:09] <BobC2> Warbo I wanted to doit that way but Icould not
[06:09] <MenZa> duncanm: if you're on dapper, use #ubuntu+1 :P
[06:09] <duncanm> gnomefreak: dapper
[06:09] <duncanm> i'm there too
[06:09] <MenZa> Oh
[06:09] <duncanm> but no nvidia users
[06:09] <duncanm> i think it's not a dapper problem, more like an nvidia problem
[06:09] <duncanm> the thing is, it was working fine in breezy
[06:09] <valehru> Hey guys
[06:09] <BobC2> DShepherd lol ok Thanks!
[06:09] <valehru> guess what im using..
[06:09] <Warbo> Anybody know a Nautilus background changer that actually works? I used to have loads of different chbg scenarios in a drawer on my panel, but I just had a bare root window then. Now I'm back to having desktop icons
[06:09] <valehru> :)
[06:09] <green_earz> ejofee: aptitude show package-name  will what the package Depends on
[06:10] <duncanm> Warbo: do you know the diff between nvidia and nvidiafb?
[06:10] <DShepherd> BobC2: np
[06:10] <arrick> anyone: why would apache write a manual for apace2, that has no correct directories or commands?
[06:10] <[C] hris> angie83, i see what you saying
[06:10] <Warbo> duncanm: I think nvidiafb comes with Linux, so it's free. Not sure though. Anyway, it's a framebuffer driver, not a full 3D one.
[06:10] <[C] hris> angie83, nice setup to change workspaces
[06:10] <ejofee> green_earz: thanks
[06:11] <green_earz> np
[06:11] <angie83> [C] hris,  u're gonna really use virtual desktops, switching all the time! i used to have shift+f12
[06:11] <[C] hris> i was just clicking the icon then scrolling up or down
[06:11] <BobC2> I read at wikiUbuntu there is a way to to it "backwards" anyone done it?
[06:11] <arrick> anoyone, how do I configure the apache2 virtual host?
[06:11] <gnomefreak> duncanm: with any and all dapper questions please keep them in #ubuntu+1
[06:11] <Warbo> angie83: I used to use E16 with GNOME instead of Metacity and I had 48 desktops :)
[06:12] <digitalhav0c> could someone tell me how to reconfigure Xorg with dpkg
[06:12] <digitalhav0c> what the command is
[06:12] <BobC2> Bubackwards I mean load Windows AFTER Ubuntu?
[06:12] <digitalhav0c> i've messed it up again
[06:12] <angie83> Warbo, for doing what???????
[06:12] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: did you actually use that many?
[06:12] <[C] hris> i really dont need more then 4 workspaces
[06:12] <green_earz> ejofee: and to list all the package that are installed     dpkg -l | more
[06:12] <Warbo> digitalhav0c: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure packagename" so packagename would be xserver-xorg
[06:12] <[C] hris> after 4 its time to start investing in another computer
[06:12] <angie83> lol
[06:13] <valehru> ok need to get my ext3 drive up and mounted
[06:13] <valehru> hmm
[06:13] <Warbo> Chameleon: I had them in 2x4 arrangement and each had a different background switching. I definetly used all 8 at a time, but I used a different set depending on my mood (music backgrounds, landscapes, etc.)
[06:13] <[C] hris> anyone have any luck getting a creative zen micro to work on ubuntu
[06:14] <jadaz87> [C] hris is the firmware updated to the lastest firmware?
[06:14] <[C] hris> i think so
[06:14] <jadaz87> [C] hris the play now firmware?
[06:14] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: hmm, ok
[06:15] <marcusi> hi all
[06:15] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: I coded up a quick script to rotate my backgrounds a while ago
[06:15] <jadaz87> [C] hris if so it will not work on linux
[06:15] <Warbo> Chameleon: I found a few python scripts from Google but they didn't work, and I don't know much Python
[06:16] <Se7h> i do
[06:16] <Se7h> lol
[06:16] <[C] hris> that might be the problem i did update the firmware to something just not sure if it was the one your talking about
[06:16] <eugman> Anyone know what I have to set --working-directory to equal so I can open files in a terminal program just by double clicking them?
[06:17] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: wallpaper-tray is in apt
[06:17] <marcusi> i've un problem with ddclient on ubuntu
[06:17] <[C] hris> what is wallpaper-tray?
[06:17] <adept> is a kernel update planned for dapper ?
[06:17] <bicky> any1 knows how to change screenresolution in the terminal ?
[06:18] <Warbo> Chameleon: During my switch back to Metacity I kept the ability to have different sets of rotating backdrops by using chbg with different scenarios in some bash scripts which started by killing any running chbgs. That was fine, but chbg doesn't work well with Nautilus (restarts Nautilus after every switch and ends up opening $HOME). BTW, wallpaper-tray is very pathetic at the moment. Doesn't even let me use 1 background
[06:18] <BobC2>  type $ grub-install /dev/hdaX where X is your Ubuntu root install.  ?? What is the "root install" what should I be looking for?
[06:18] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: LOL
[06:19] <bicky> BobC2 where your / is mounted. You can check it in /etc/fstab
[06:19] <Warbo> BobC2: Root is "/", the partition where everything else gets mounted
[06:19] <_Avatar_> !repos
[06:19] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:19] <BobC2> bicky You mean type "/etc/fstab"?
[06:19] <Archangel> guys how can i see my other HDD
[06:19] <Archangel> i cant find it
[06:19] <_Avatar_> !easysource
[06:19] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:20] <martyn> worble: sorry i got cut off
[06:20] <welshbyte> Archangel: mount it
[06:20] <Archangel> any help on that?
[06:20] <Archangel> i am completely new
[06:20] <martyn> warbo: got cut off sorry
[06:20] <BobC2> Warbo  "/" thats it?
[06:20] <Warbo> martyn: I saw you left :)
[06:21] <welshbyte> !mount
[06:21] <ubotu> well, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[06:21] <kronoz> did somone say my name?
[06:21] <Warbo> BobC2: "/etc/fstab" is a file
[06:21] <valehru> lo..
[06:21] <martyn> warbo: ok so what do i need to put in that file
[06:21] <valehru> whats the default depth for 1280X1024 resolution?
[06:21] <BobC2> Warbo oh!
[06:21] <Warbo> BobC2: You notice it starts with a "/"? That's because everything is in the "/" (root) directory
[06:22] <welshbyte> Yorgos: keep the covnersation in-channel please
[06:22] <Yorgos> well ok lol
[06:22] <Yorgos> i have to mount it every  time i start ubuntu?
[06:22] <Warbo> martyn: Where would be convenient to access these files? I would say "/mnt/windows", but you might want to get them in your home dir
[06:22] <welshbyte> Yorgos: and you can put it in your /etc/fstab file in order to mount it every time
[06:22] <BobC2> Warbo  OK
[06:22] <[C] hris> can hda be a cdrom?
[06:22] <welshbyte> !fstab
[06:22] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[06:22] <martyn> warbo: dont really care
[06:23] <Warbo> [C] hris: Sure.
[06:23] <[Chameleon] > [C] hris: yes, if your HD is SCSI or SATA
[06:23] <[C] hris> mines ide and hda
[06:23] <Warbo> Chameleon: My HD is USB, but if you've wired your system badly (is it really that bad?) then your HD can be hdc and CDROM is hda
[06:24] <martyn> warbo: here is the fstab http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12449 and the fdisk http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12450
[06:24] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: :) Windows would freak out.
[06:24] <Warbo> martyn: OK then. Make a folder called "/mnt/windows" by typing "sudo mkdir /mnt/windows" in a different terminal (if Gedit is still open)
[06:24] <adept> when will we see the 2.6.16 in dapper ?
[06:24] <Warbo> Chameleon: Yes, but who in there right mind runs Windows? :)
[06:25] <adept> (it fixes the issues with the sky2 net driver)
[06:25] <martyn> warbo: ok done that
[06:25] <jmoncayo> what is port 32770 used for?
[06:25] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: the person who mixes their IDE chains like that
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[06:25] <Warbo> martyn: OK, I will make a copy of your fstab and edit it, then put it in pastebin for you
[06:25] <martyn> Warbo: cheers
[06:25] <jmoncayo> what is port 32770 used for?
[06:26] <adept> oops, sorry
[06:26] <Warbo> Chameleon: Surely, the person who puts their IDE like that is exactly the person who DOESN'T run windows?
[06:26] <adept> shitty laptop
[06:26] <martyn> [Chameleon] : i am try this as my first linux disrto am still learning
[06:26] <eugman> Can someone tell me how setup the stupid gnome terminal to open a window and send the file I doubleclicked to frotz?
[06:26] <isaboni> station
[06:27] <[Chameleon] > Warbo: heh, good point
[06:27] <isaboni> hola
[06:27] <Goalgetter> hello, anyone here who can help me get my Intel 3945ABG Wifi adapter working?
[06:27] <escobar5> hello, i'm installing F4L (flash 4 linux) and in the step when i do "./configure" i get bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[06:27] <escobar5> , anybody can tell me what is happening?
[06:27] <Warbo> martyn: Hang on, you've run that auto-mounting script thing for NTFS and fat32? You already have your partition accessible in /media/hdb1
[06:27] <Goalgetter> I'm trying the ndiswrapper but that won't work properly
[06:28] <martyn> Warbo: yeah done that wen i 1st installed the distro
[06:28] <[Chameleon] > ROFLOL
[06:28] <eugman> escobar5, ./configure is less of a specific command and more "run the file named configure in this directory" are you in the right directory?
[06:28] <ompaul> escobar5, maybe actually installing flash as on wiki.ubuntu.com/Restricted would help, but for compiling you must >> sudo apt-get install build-essential <<
[06:28] <Warbo> escobar5: Unless you are a developer (in which case you could rewrite the install scripts) I would not install f4l. It doesn't do anything. (The screenshots look nice, but the buttons don't actaully do anything when you click them)
[06:28] <martyn> Warbo:No i edits that earlyer to see if woud pick it up and it wont
[06:29] <Warbo> martyn: Anyway, I'll add my own line
[06:29] <jadaz87> does anyone know what the terminal command for pure data is?
[06:29] <erUSUL> jadaz87: ??
[06:29] <escobar5> ok warbo, thanks for the info
[06:29] <arrick> Why is is ao hard to follow a (*#$&)* manual for apache2 configuration, couldn't they just speak in plain language for ease of use?
[06:30] <jadaz87> erUSUAL puredata
[06:30] <BobC2> Thanks for the help !
[06:30] <whyz>  hey..i'm in a bit of pickle. i've just installed linux, but the grub installation has failed. I would like some help setting grub up properly. The boot device is a sata disk on /dev/sda, the drive with linux is /dev/hda
[06:30] <jadaz87> puredata is like jMAX
[06:31] <green_earz> arrick: if its just static html pages you will be hosting then have a look at using boa, its a lot more straight forward to use
[06:32] <arrick> green_earz, what do you mean by "static"?
[06:32] <martyn> Warbo: ok thx
[06:32] <Warbo> martyn: OK, first run "sudo cp /etc/fstab /home/(yourusername)" to back up your old file, then replace all of the text in Gedit with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12451
[06:32] <erUSUL> jadaz87: i have no idea jadaz87, sorry 8|
[06:32] <martyn> Warbo: thx
[06:32] <ompaul> whyz, its does not like that, do one or the other but don't try to combine them, I hear it does not work out well
[06:32] <green_earz> arrick: no php
[06:32] <arrick> ok
[06:32] <ubuntu_> hh''
[06:33] <green_earz> arrick: boa will run cgi ok
[06:33] <ubuntu_> hello
[06:33] <Warbo> martyn: If you run "sudo mount -a" then it will mount everything in fstab
[06:33] <ubuntu_> i see you
[06:33] <Cyorxamp> Anyone know a good channel where I can get ISP advice (i am in the UK) ?
[06:33] <UbuntuNewbie> good morning everyone
[06:33] <ubuntu_> hi
[06:33] <whyz> ompaul, you meani should have the pata drive set up with grub on it?(/dev/hda)
[06:33] <jmoncayo> can somebody help me, why do i have port 32770 open, iot says sometimes rpc3
[06:33] <Warbo> martyn: But you may need to unmount /media/hdb1 ("sudo umount /media/hdb1")
[06:33] <arrick> green_earz, thanks
[06:34] <green_earz> np
[06:34] <ubuntu_> ?
[06:34] <ompaul> whyz, it seems to abhor the mixing of them - it might be possible after you get one drive set up to add the other using the instructions from >>/msg ubotu grub<<
[06:34] <MetaMorfoziS> has anybody a howto for: "How to speed up my os?" i think about kde and ubuntu breezy on laptop
[06:35] <martyn> warbo: ok done that say theres no hdb1 for that unmount command. do i restart now
[06:35] <HaRDaWaY> hi
[06:36] <Warbo> martyn: No restart needed (but you may want to so a restart before shutting down fully, to test that it does all work) because the is mount -a effectively the same as boot up mounting
[06:36] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, other than don't run services use xubuntu-desktop (uses xfce not kde or gnome) and you can have the 3 main window managers(sic) installed on the one box  I can't suggest any more to you on that one
[06:37] <scifi> hi guys, is it possible to change the default option to windows xp in grub instaed of ubuntu?
[06:37] <Warbo> martyn: Open your Home, and go Up to /, then go into mnt and then windows. It will be empty, but look at the bottom of Nautilus where it says free space. /mnt and /mnt/windows should say different things
[06:38] <martyn> warbo: Cheers mate thats it woking now
[06:38] <green_earz> MetaMorfoziS: you can use hdparm to tweak up the hard speed as in enable dma and us 32 bit instead of 16 bit >http://www.linuxnetmag.com/en/issue7/m7hdparm1.html >http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2000/06/29/hdparm.html >http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_hdparm_to_improve_IDE_device_performance#Getting_information_about_your_different_drives
[06:39] <MetaMorfoziS> thank you
[06:39] <green_earz> np
[06:39] <martyn> Warbo: ok i looked in my computer i can see the windows drive with 4 gig of space tried to copy a file to it dont have pemission to copy to it
[06:40] <Warbo> martyn: Sure. BTW, you can use the command "sudo mount --bind dir1 dir2" to access one directory in 2 places. This is useful because you can mount windows on /mnt/windows, then use mount --bind /mnt/windows/My\ Documents /home/name/Windows\ Documents to access your Windows My Documents inside your Home, without having to go through your "C" drive
[06:40] <ompaul> scifi, yes edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and in there there is a line with the word default in it, change it to the "stanza" group of lines with the word windows in it - it might be  3 perhaps if it is the third group of lines
[06:40] <Warbo> martyn: OK, OK. Try replacing the "user" in fstab with "users" that may sort it out.
[06:40] <green_earz> Cyorxamp: http://www.ispreview.co.uk/   this link may be of some help ?
[06:41] <corhere> I need to share a wireless connection (rausb0) over a wired one (eth0) and I am not sure how. Can anyboy help me with this?
[06:41] <ompaul> martyn, writing to a windows partition may leave it unusuable
[06:41] <Hirvinen> corhere: Use firestarter. It has a wizard for that.
[06:41] <Warbo> ompaul: It is not windows partition, it is a blank fat32 partition to share files with windows
[06:42] <eugman> What's the best way to turn a terminal command into a desktop icon?
[06:42] <martyn> Warbo: ok trie the users and still does not give me permision
[06:42] <Warbo> martyn: hmmm. OK, I used to have this problem when I used windows. I solved it by adding the option "uid=chris" (where chris is my username)
[06:43] <bliss1_> gnomefreak: HI
[06:43] <green_earz> MetaMorfoziS: and to install the kernel image that is best suitted for your cpu instead of the stardard 386 image
[06:43] <ompaul> Warbo, type should not be auto but vfat
[06:43] <gnomefreak> hi
[06:43] <bliss1_> ompaul; so sunny
[06:43] <Warbo> ompaul: That's what I put, didn't I?
[06:43] <ompaul> bliss1_, rain
[06:43] <ndlovu> hi all. stupidly I copied /etc/fstab from my old machine to the new one and of course now it doesn't boot nice. any ideas how to rescue my fstab?
[06:43] <bliss1_> ompaul must be seeing things
[06:43] <Warbo> ompaul: Yes I did
[06:43] <k31th> ok im trying to install some thing from source
[06:43] <martyn> Warbo: ok where would i put that
[06:43] <k31th> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[06:44] <k31th> And im getting the above error
[06:44] <k31th> anyone ?
[06:44] <gnomefreak> k31th: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:44] <k31th> I have gcc installed.
[06:44] <k31th> gnomefreak: thANKS !
[06:44] <ompaul> Warbo, I am reacting to the irc stuff - not a paste - thought it was a new conversation must be pastebin and going a while
[06:44] <gnomefreak> yw
[06:44] <scifi> ompaul: is that file easy to edit, i.e have permissions to wrie to it?
[06:44] <Warbo> martyn: In the list of options (like users) put a comma and then uid=(your name), but this was on an old RedHat 9 Linux. It should still be the same though
[06:44] <nut> hi what do I use to burn audio cds ?
[06:44] <k31th> gnomefreak: i was searching apt for dev tools etc
[06:44] <Warbo> ompaul: Been going a while indeed!
[06:44] <k31th> doh!
[06:44] <gnomefreak> k31th: for future refference please install build-essential instead of gcc
[06:45] <erUSUL> scifi: use 'sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[06:45] <martyn> Warbo: so it be " /dev/hdb1 /mnt/windows vfat defaults,uid=martyn,exec,rw 0 0 "
[06:45] <ompaul> scifi, >>gksudo gedit /boot/menu/grub.lst<<  (so you need permission)
[06:45] <gnomefreak> build-essential brings in gcc make and header files for C C++
[06:45] <unknown__> !bootlog
[06:45] <ubotu> unknown__: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:45] <unknown__> !bootlogd
[06:45] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, unknown__
[06:46] <ompaul> unknown__, what are you looking for "syslog" ? dmesg ?
[06:46] <Warbo> gnomefreak: Do you know if this problem is sorted yet: I have to install gcc-3.4 because default is 4.0, and there is a different version message when I make a kernel module. That's why I need gcc-3.4 instead. (Is dapper kernel built with 4?)
[06:46] <Warbo> martyn: keep the users in there as well and that is perfect
[06:47] <gnomefreak> Warbo: yes it is build with 4 iirc
[06:47] <Warbo> gnomefreak: OK, mainly for my dad's system with USB modem. I use a router on Dapper so I couldn't test it
[06:47] <scifi> erUSUL/ompaul: so which command do i use? lol
[06:48] <ompaul> scifi, mine is graphical erUSUL is using command line all the way - it is your call
[06:48] <ompaul> scifi, both must be started from a terminal
[06:48] <martyn> Warbo: no still does not work. if i take out all the parts that auto mount put in and re run auto mount after a reart will that pic them all up
[06:49] <corhere> I am having a problem with firestarter: it says eth0 is not ready. I checked the settings and ifconfig, but all appears well
[06:49] <scifi> ompaul: so basically ur command gives me permissions to edit the file in say gedit text editor?
[06:49] <Warbo> martyn: I think the problem is that "user" lets any user mount it (not just root) which is how CDs can be done, etc. But when booting up everything is done by root, so root mounts it and therefore owns it
[06:49] <ompaul> scifi, both give you the "authority" to do so rather than permissions slightly different concept
[06:50] <scifi> ok
[06:50] <Warbo> martyn: When you test it run "sudo umount /dev/hdb1" then "sudo mount -a" and retry the directory
[06:50] <Mend> how to install .bin files?
[06:50] <bliss1_> ompaul:  i am building a kernel and i am woo i am in usr/src and about to run make meuconfig but if i have a working config what do i do/ go into that directory and run what ?
[06:50] <eugman> Hey does anyone know how I might make it so middle click on a minimized program closes it?
[06:50] <Mend> i wanna install realplayer but it is .bin file
[06:51] <Warbo> Mend: What kind? If it is an installer use "sh /pathe/to/file"
[06:51] <erUSUL> bliss1_: copy the working config as .config to the linux dir then run make oldconfig
[06:51] <martyn> Warbo: Whooo it woked mate thax alot cheer
[06:51] <ompaul> bliss1_, ^^
[06:51] <Warbo> Mend: There are packages available, and they will put RealPlayer into FireFox and also get updated automatically
[06:51] <scifi> gonna try it now, brb
[06:52] <FallenHitokiri> i use dapper. I installed network-manager and network-manager-gnome. after a reboot my panel applet is gone and i have no idea how i can get it back
[06:52] <Warbo> martyn: You don't have to reboot now, but I recommend that you do later today and check that it still works!
[06:52] <Dutchy> is there file sharing program similar to limewire/kazaa/etc i can get through the package manager?
[06:52] <bliss1_> erUSul: thanks just a sc
[06:52] <corhere> whoever it may concern: i found this tip in the ubuntu forums that worked for me, giving user access to windows partitions: add umask=0222 to the <options> section of /etc/fstab
[06:52] <Mend> how to install .bin files?
[06:52] <Mend> i wanna install realplayer but it is .bin file
[06:52] <martyn> Warbo: ill rebbot now to try it thx. should that auto mount normailt pick that up if i done a full reboot at any time
[06:53] <FallenHitokiri> Melchior, ./$foo.bin
[06:53] <Warbo> mertyn: listen to corhere if it doesn't work :)
[06:53] <green_earz> Dutchy: bittornado
[06:53] <green_earz> Dutchy: aptitude show bittornado
[06:53] <Mend> i wanna install realplayer but it is .bin file
[06:53] <Mend> how to install .bin files?
[06:53] <FallenHitokiri> Mend, ./$foo.bin
[06:54] <erUSUL> Mend: chmod +x file.bin;./file.bin
[06:54] <Dutchy> thats bittorrent isnt it? or does it have the same search functionality as limewire etc?
[06:54] <Engla> I need some help tweaking the tty keymap, I want it to be identical to my gnome setup. I haven't changed anything, so they are both similar swedish layouts, but some keys differ... So I need to fix those
[06:55] <corhere> I am having a problem with firestarter: it says eth0 is not ready. I checked the settings and ifconfig, but all appears well
[06:55] <Warbo> Mend: Go into a terminal and use "cd /directory/where/bin/file/is"
[06:55] <Dutchy> i like bittorrent and such but it eats your bandwidth
[06:55] <angie83> can anyone here. help me to install ubuntu from ISO on hd? I already got grub installed, and the installer runnning, but says, i does not find the iso...
[06:56] <Warbo> angie83: I don;t think the Ubuntu installer can use .iso files stored on a partition, although many distros can
[06:56] <ndlovu_> my computer rebooted to a terminal because my fstab is stuffed. Now I can't edit fstab because it says the filesystem is readonly. any idea how to remount as rw?
[06:56] <angie83> Warbo, it does, believe me...
[06:56] <green_earz> Dutchy: its not the same method as kazaa. you get you .torrent files to start you download off torrent site http://isohunt.comhttp://isohunt.com/ > http://thepiratebay.org//
[06:56] <Warbo> ndlovu: "sudo mount / / -o remount,rw" I think
[06:57] <Mend> Warbo: then?
[06:57] <Warbo> angie83: Then I can't be much help then, sorry
[06:57] <ndlovu_> Warbo: thanks!
[06:58] <Warbo> Mend: OK, I am assuming that you want it installed system wide, so it needs to be run as super user
[06:58] <Dutchy> green_earz, im perfectly aware of how bittorrent works :) and as i said it eats bandwidth :> for the usual downloads i'd prefer the kazaa/limewire method :)
[06:58] <Warbo> Mend: Use "chmod 755 filename.bin"
[06:58] <tomplast> hi, can anyone help me with RecordRadio script in amarok?
[06:58] <Mend> Warbo: as a root?
[06:58] <Warbo> Mend: I will get to that.
[06:58] <Alexi5> hello
[06:58] <invitado> hi
[06:59] <green_earz> Dutchy: with bittornado you can control the upload and download rates
[06:59] <Warbo> Mend: When it has execute permissions (the chmod thing) then run "sudo ./filename.bin" and put in your regular password
[06:59] <invitado> kiu man
[06:59] <corhere> I am having a problem with firestarter: it says eth0 is not ready. I checked the settings and ifconfig, but all appears well
[06:59] <Dutchy> so does abc/azureus etc... still eats bandwidth
[06:59] <Mend> Warbo: will it install it in a necessary directory or should i myself show it where to install?
[06:59] <green_earz> ok
[06:59] <Frogzoo> is cdemu available on ubuntu/breezy?
[06:59] <invitado> oe kien tiene radio con sidi
[06:59] <bliss1_> erUSUL: i am following a howto here I am at the stage of make menuconfig but what i do is copy it as .config place it in usr/src and run make oldconfig
[06:59] <Dutchy> really bittorrent is great, but not while browsing/gaming etc
[06:59] <Gambit> Any one here ever gotten the groupwise client to install properly
[07:00] <ub0ti> Ack!
[07:00] <Warbo> Mend: If I recall it asks you. Also you can use the "ls /usr/lib/*mozilla*" command in another terminal to find out where Firefox is (I think it asks you that)
[07:00] <ub0ti> bittorrent...can someone pls help? I've been trying to download using torrents...
[07:00] <ub0ti> so far nat error shows
[07:00] <simone> hi everybody! I need help to recover lost partitions on an external hard drive... anybody can help?
[07:00] <ub0ti> up
[07:00] <ub0ti> i am directly connected to the internet
[07:00] <DShepherd> simone: God maybe
[07:00] <Frogzoo> !tell ub0ti about azureus
[07:00] <ub0ti> so i cant see any reason why it should cause a problem
[07:00] <erUSUL> bliss1_: it should be /usr/src/linux* , shouldn't it?
[07:01] <simone> Dsheperd: well, I suppose he doesn't care too much
[07:01] <klose> help
[07:01] <Warbo> ub0ti: Are you using a client like Azureus or the built-in GNOME bittorrent?
[07:01] <Dutchy> ill go install limewire, now i just need to find out how to install something without the package manager :P
[07:01] <DShepherd> simone: :-/
[07:01] <simone> I know there are some tools to recover partitions... on google there are plenty of them, but I need help to chosse
[07:01] <klose> allchan
[07:01] <bliss1_> erUSUL; yes you right
[07:01] <Mend> Warbo: 1. cd /where/file.bin 2. chmod 755 file.bin 3. sudo /file.bin what then?
[07:01] <Nekkit> irc://irc.immortal-anime.net/jnf
[07:01] <Nekkit> ups
[07:01] <green_earz> ub0ti: do you have any ports open for bittorent on your firewall ?
[07:01] <klose> hi
[07:01] <ub0ti> Warbo: i tried the built-in one, downloaded bittornado's version, and finally tried azureus
[07:01] <Warbo> Dutchy: Install gtk-gnutella. Runs faster than limewire (not java) and it's in Universe
[07:02] <ub0ti> I dont have a fire wall...i thought that kinda thing blocked azureus...
[07:02] <Alexi5> i was thinking of getting one of those intel dual core laptop so i can use ubuntu on it to do some software development,does ubuntu work well with these systems
[07:02] <corhere> Dutchy: the thing that has helped my many times is checkinstall (universe). It chroots the "make install" or whatever then created a .deb
[07:02] <ub0ti> ok, so that means i should install firestarter- i've been there, ppl
[07:02] <Warbo> ub0ti: Does the program start? Does the torrent get added to it? Does it just not have enough people with it?
[07:02] <ub0ti> and open up bt ports?
[07:02] <ub0ti> it gets added...i can see clients - both seeds and peers- i jst cant connect
[07:03] <Dutchy> ok corhere Warbo ill check both out
[07:03] <Dutchy> thanks
[07:03] <javiza> javiza
[07:03] <Warbo> Dutchy: Limewire just comes as a file to be run in it's own directory, no installation, so I don;t think checkinstall would help
[07:03] <ub0ti> and i talked to the dude managing the network, he tells me that there arent any strict restrictions on ports- or blocked ports- but they use some sort of limitation to keep the torrent folks in line
[07:03] <green_earz> ub0ti: example port range 10000 to 10010  on your firewall and setup the same with your bittorent client
[07:03] <javiza> javiza@latinmail.com
[07:03] <ub0ti> ok. thanls green_earz
[07:03] <bliss1_> erUSUL: same directory as the source kernel
[07:04] <green_earz> np
[07:04] <Warbo> Mend: It is important to have a . before the latst stage "sudo ./file.bin"
[07:04] <erUSUL> bliss1_: yes
[07:04] <Dutchy> Warbo, ok cool thanks
[07:04] <Mend> Warbo: i didn't get
[07:05] <Mend> Warbo: do you mean putting period?
[07:05] <green_earz> ub0ti: i prefer bittornado because of its control of upload  and download speed
[07:06] <ub0ti> green_earz: yeah- when i was using gentoo - i alwys used that. since this is my first time trying ubuntu, am trying to feel my way arnd
[07:06] <green_earz> ub0ti: sudo aptitude install bittornado-gui
[07:06] <luis_> hello
[07:06] <Warbo> Mend: Exactly. A "period" (damn americans) means the directory you are in and two periods ".." means the directory above you. You can type "sudo /path/to/file.bin" or just abbrieviate to "sudo ./bin"
[07:06] <ub0ti> by the by, are there any suggestions for a good place where i can find advanced guides (not just howto's) for ubuntu?
[07:07] <ub0ti> green_earz: - have it 'lready...didnt work from there either.
[07:07] <corhere> I am having a problem with firestarter: it says eth0 is not ready. The terminal output says " Internal network device eth0 is not ready. Aborting.." I checked the settings and ifconfig, but all appears well
[07:07] <ub0ti> apt is installing firestarter now
[07:07] <Warbo> OK, I've got to go (Quantum Leap's on) If Mend has problems someone else help (trying to install RealPLayer .bin file)
[07:07] <luis_> hello
[07:07] <ompaul> ub0ti, the one thing you should read is wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo other than that poke around wiki.ubuntu.com and look for spec material
[07:07] <ub0ti> hello luis_
[07:07] <ub0ti> :)
[07:07] <green_earz> ub0ti: and to fire it up >         /usr/bin/btdownloadgui
[07:08] <ub0ti> ok..
[07:08] <ompaul> ub0ti, I think you should read that page wheither you use sudo or not - just to understand the help we give here
[07:08] <Mend> anyone knows where i can get instructions to install .bin files?
[07:08] <bliss1_> erUSUL: rather than do this from inside the os i am about to do this kernel howto I could do it fro a live cd and mount the hda?
[07:08] <ompaul> Mend, usually if it build right >>sudo sh File.bin<< what is for?
[07:09] <corhere> Mend: try this: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28RealPlayer_10.29
[07:09] <ompaul> Mend, people do a lot of work so using that particular one may be a waste of time if someone has worked out what to do
[07:09] <ompaul> ub0ti, also wiki.ubuntu.com/Restricted
[07:10] <tangmubai> hello
[07:10] <Mend> corhere: thanks for the link
[07:10] <Mend> ompaul: i didn't get
[07:10] <corhere> Mend: bookmark that page for future reference, it is an excellent information source
[07:10] <tangmubai> is there a way to setup the direct rendering colors in x11? now, when i play some film with xv or watch tv with tv card, the colors are shifted (hue)
[07:10] <ompaul> Mend, usually if it build right >>sudo sh File.bin<< what is for -- but what program is it?
[07:10] <ub0ti> ok, looking up.
[07:11] <Frogzoo> is there a .deb for cdemu, or - horror of horrors - must I resort to source?
[07:11] <Mend> ompaul: it is real player for playing .rm files
[07:11] <Mend> corhere: i will.
[07:12] <ompaul> Mend, the easy way to do that right on Ubuntu is read wiki.ubuntu.com/Restricted and look for the Realplayer section
[07:12] <erUSUL> bliss1_: why would you want to do it that way? it makes no sense. You are trying to build your own kernel right? just apt-get the source (or untar it) then do a cp /path/to/myconfig .config and then make oldconfig after that run 'make'
[07:12] <corhere> Mend: you could also look at mplayer + win32codecs, that (should) play rm files
[07:12] <ub0ti> ompaul: in the firestarter dialog i have this ipv6 device appearing under the 'choose LAN network device' - will it cause any problem for bittorrent?
[07:12] <Mend> corhere: ok
[07:12] <ndlovu_> I have about 7 partitions, but not sure anymore which one mounts to which /dev/hda(x). any idea how to match the mount points properly?
[07:12] <errpast-wc> Did Firefox versions jumpt from 1.0.7 to 1.5.x?
[07:13] <ompaul> ub0ti, I would not know, don't use Firestarter - it should not
[07:13] <errpast-wc> s/jumpt/jump
[07:13] <xbox_sky> *sigh* I have 1 main panel (top) that I use frequently, right now I added a new panel (bottom) but it doesn't matter where I click because evry time I try to edit the bottom panel (new one) only the front gets changed...!??!?!
[07:13] <funman> errpast-w? yes
[07:13] <ndlovu_> the boot process keeps kicking me to the commandline and telling me to use fsck
[07:13] <jessid> ey boys, i am i troubles :(....I hope some of you can help me...
[07:13] <bliss1_> erUSul:  yes it was just a thought following this http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21
[07:14] <corhere> I am having a problem with firestarter: it says eth0 is not ready. The terminal output says " Internal network device eth0 is not ready. Aborting.." I checked the settings and ifconfig, but all settings appear correct. Could somebody please help me?
[07:14] <ompaul> ndlovu_, so type "fdisk -y " and don't switch off the machine when it is on using the switch
[07:15] <ndlovu_> ompaul: invalid option -y ?
[07:15] <fury|Smoke> are there kernels setup specifically for gaming
[07:15] <ompaul> ndlovu_, you have a problem machine, do you have a live CD?
[07:15] <signius> Hi guys
[07:15] <funman> fury|Smoke: include keyboard support
[07:15] <erUSUL> bliss1_: the instructions are clear in the page. in which point are you stuck?
[07:16] <erUSUL> !tell corhere about repeat
[07:16] <ndlovu_> ompaul: yes I do, but the problem is just that my fstab is all wrong - that's confusing the boot process.
[07:16] <fury|Smoke> so i should build my own?
[07:16] <green_earz> ndlovu_: you can look at the cat /etc/fstab file to where and what your mount points are
[07:16] <bliss1_> erUSUL:  its the answer you have given already I have my working config and you have told me what to do thanks
[07:16] <dssjon> startkeylogger
[07:16] <corhere> My apologies for repetition
[07:16] <ndlovu_> green_earz: the mount points are all pointing to the wrong /dev/hda(x). I'm trying to figure out what they should be
[07:17] <ompaul> ndlovu_, that shoud not be the case - problem is I now have to leave for a period of time
[07:17] <ltibor65> Hi Guys! Help me please! I have a HP Scanjet 3400C scanner. How can I install it under Dapper? It uses LPT parallel port.
[07:17] <erUSUL> bliss1_: no problem. after you do 'make aldconfig' you can still 'make menuconfig' to change whatever you want in the configuration
[07:17] <signius> I am having a hell of a time with ubuntu insiting on using IPV6 for wireless i have disabled IPV6 in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases but it is still insisting on trying to get IP info using IPV6 the IPV4 stuff be working and configured proper as it works perfect on the wired NIC i been searching for ages and not getting anywhere has anyone got any ideas ?
[07:17] <xbox_sky> *sigh* I have 1 main panel (top) that I use frequently, right now I added a new panel (bottom) but it doesn't matter where I click because evry time I try to edit the bottom panel (new one) only the front gets changed...!??!?!
[07:17] <ndlovu_> ompaul: no problem, thanks for your help. I actually copied a backup fstab over the proper one accidentally, so that's why it's wrong
[07:18] <bliss1_> erUSUL: ok thanks
[07:18] <ndlovu_> any idea if there are any backup fstab files created automatically?
[07:19] <signius> everything i can see is configured correctly but this IPV6 crap is driving me nuts
[07:19] <knopf> hi. can ubuntu do 'suspend to disc' on notebooks, please?
[07:19] <signius> why would it insist on using for the wireless but not do the same for the wired NIC ?
[07:20] <ompaul> ndlovu_, you control the machine, it does what you tell it, so no unless you tell it to, this is the harsh side of linux, when it bites it bites hard, if you ahve a live CD you could mount the partition and fix it if not try the rescue option but somehow from what you say I think it will reject that method (good luck)
[07:20] <ub0ti> ompaul: when setting the firewall to allow the reccommended port range (smeone suggested 10000-10010) where should i add it to? to the part allowing the service? do i need to configure 'allow connections from host'?
[07:20] <ltibor65> Hi Seveas, Can you help me in question of scanner install?
[07:21] <ndlovu_> ompaul: the fun part of linux is that you also have to figure out how to fix your stuff-ups!
[07:21] <signius> I dont appear to be the only person with this problem but i googled & googled and none of the suggested fixes has worked so far
[07:21] <apricot> kde or gnome?
[07:21] <ompaul> ub0ti, I don't know it at all so your going to have to insult a destruction manual :-)
[07:21] <xbox_sky> any KDE users in here?
[07:21] <ompaul> ndlovu_, well its been a few years at this stage if I do something like that I deserve a good trashing :)
[07:21] <ub0ti> better yet, i'll show you a scrnshot of the config-window
[07:21] <green_earz> ndlovu_: sudo cfdisk       may give a clue where thing are ?
[07:22] <ltibor65> Can anybody help me in scanner install?
[07:22] <scorchsaber> Hey, I'm having trouble with sound. It works fine with things like Noatun, and media players, but not with games, such as abuse, Freeciv, NetPanzer...
[07:22] <ub0ti> omaru: heh, will risk that then....yeah, green_earz- would u mind taking a look at the firewall config?
[07:23] <green_earz> ndlovu_:  a better on is   sudo fdisk -l
[07:23] <ndlovu_> green_earz: ooh, that's looking promising...
[07:23] <valehru> Is there anything in the wiki about definining your resolution in ubuntu?
[07:23] <signius> brb
[07:23] <xbox_sky> great
[07:23] <scorchsaber> valehru: Look in system-> Preferences
[07:23] <bliss1_> erUSUL : like make my ACPI work so that my compter will reboot .
[07:23] <bliss1_> there is this page that tels me how to install http://acpi.sourceforge.net/download.html and have found a dstl.dsl for my labtop
[07:23] <valehru> yeah but its not as high as I want it
[07:23] <xbox_sky> it's impossible to change a 2nd panel
[07:23] <scorchsaber> velehru: System->Preferences-> Screen Resolution
[07:23] <scorchsaber> Well uh
[07:24] <ndlovu_> green_earz: will cfdisk rewrite the fstab?
[07:24] <scorchsaber> valehru: Is your monitor set up correctly?
[07:24] <valehru> I want a better res than 1024*768
[07:24] <valehru> seems to be
[07:24] <valehru> think i may need to re-write the xorg.conf
[07:24] <xbox_sky> vaehru yes
[07:24] <scorchsaber> I know theres a way to chane the configuration, but I don't actually know the way. And yeah, you might
[07:25] <xbox_sky> you need to find your refresh rate, and manually edit your xorg
[07:25] <scorchsaber> thats probably the way I'm thinking of
[07:25] <valehru> is there a gnome utility to set up the monitor?
[07:25] <xbox_sky> valehru gedit xorg.conf
[07:25] <green_earz> ndlovu_: no just use fdisk to find where thing are . cfdisk writes the partion tables into the mbr.
[07:25] <scorchsaber> Does anybody know how to fix my sound? I think it may be a problem with SDL?
[07:25] <Talldave2002> can anyone help, i am having problems with Mplayer plusin in Firefox 1.5, when i select a link, it is played twice, just a scond or two apart, so i can see one in the window, and a small strip of the other one where the controls should be
[07:26] <erUSUL> !tell valehru about fixres
[07:26] <corhere> fyi, I have solved my firestarter problem. It turns out that the internal connection needs to be configured through "Network Settings" to a static IP.
[07:26] <valehru> thx
[07:26] <ndlovu_> green_earz: there's a label column in cfdisk - would that be taken from the fstab or is it written during partition-time?
[07:27] <xbox_sky> any .... KDE users..?
[07:27] <ndlovu_> green_earz: if it's written during partitioning, then I can just use those labels to recreate my fstab...
[07:28] <FlannelKing> xbox_sky: might get a better response at #kubuntu
[07:28] <green_earz> ndlovu_: that took for fstab but cfdisk  will not edit fstab you need to edit fstab by hand
[07:28] <xbox_sky> ok tx
[07:28] <Frogzoo> wow, cdemu is nice
[07:28] <green_earz> ndlovu_: sorry its took from fstab file
[07:29] <bliss1_> Frogzoo; happy easter
[07:29] <apricot> dvd player?
[07:29] <ndlovu_> green_earz: oh well...
[07:30] <ltibor65> Hi! Can you help me to install scanner? HP ScanJet 3400C
[07:30] <valehru> ok...going to reboot
[07:31] <apricot> dvd player? mplayer?
[07:31] <scifi> ompaul/erUSUL: cudnt find what part of the menu.lst file i was meant to change to what, cud u tell me on here what im meant to change http://ubuntuguide.org/sample/menu.list_changedefaultosgrub
[07:31] <wahjava> Hi group
[07:31] <wahjava> Well, a silly question I want to ask ??
[07:31] <funman> ok... ask it...
[07:32] <funman> :)
[07:32] <wahjava> What's displayed in 1st column (starting from 0), in the output of "ls -l" ??
[07:32] <green_earz> ndlovu_: i hope you can some how sort your fstab problem out. but in the future look at using rsnapshot to backup you /etc   dir and any other dir you want
[07:32] <wahjava> funman: tell ??
[07:32] <FlannelKing> wahjava: permissions
[07:32] <scifi> please?
[07:32] <erUSUL> scifi: is the first line that does not begin with # it says 'default    0' change 0 for the apropiate number
[07:33] <funman> wahjava: file permissions
[07:33] <funman> wahjava:  man chmod
[07:33] <wahjava> funman: -rwxr-xr-x  1 ashish ashish 12602 2006-04-17 23:00 docman.py
[07:33] <wahjava> funman: I mean what is in the 1st column (starting from 0), in this paste it is 1
[07:34] <scifi> erUSUL so change saveddefault lines to stanza?
[07:34] <ndlovu_> green_earz: thanks for the suggestion. actually I've just installed the computer otherwise I'd have my backup processes in place. Like an idiot I copied my old fstab so the network mounts would work... duh.
[07:34] <wahjava> funman: When editing this file in vim, it says "file is readonly", and I've to use w! to save this file
[07:34] <Dutchy> i forget the silliest things at times... how do i check my network ip again?
[07:34] <funman> wahjava: man chmod will learn you that you have to type 'chmod +w file'
[07:35] <wahjava> Dutchy: /sbin/ifconfig
[07:35] <wahjava> BTW, I'm ashish in the listing
[07:35] <Dutchy> thanks :)
[07:35] <wahjava> Dutchy: some time it happens with me tooo ;-)
[07:35] <errpast-wc> I've got a box with no CD or floppy, would like to put on Ubuntu.  Obviously, can't directly use CD or boot floppy, would pxe be the way to go?  Other possibilities?  It does have a eth interface
[07:36] <wahjava> funman: So don't apply world permissions on me ??  I'm the owner. Sorry for not mentioning it.
[07:37] <funman> wahjava: chmod u+w file
[07:37] <green_earz> ndlovu_: i started using rsnapshot because of the delete ho no i wanted to that problem !!
[07:37] <funman> u user|g group|o others|a all
[07:37] <erUSUL> scifi: is the line that says 'default X_sequence' in the url you've mentined
[07:37] <scifi> erUSUL: i found the relevant entries at the bottom of the file which dont contain #s, but i dont know what line i should be changing
[07:37] <wahjava> funman: Well, I already have the write permissions
[07:38] <wahjava> funman: -rwxr-xr-x  1 ashish ashish 12602 2006-04-17 23:00 docman.py
[07:38] <funman> is file system read only ?
[07:38] <wahjava> funman:   usr gr oth
[07:38] <wahjava> funman: nope
[07:38] <wahjava> funman: That's why I'm amazed.
[07:38] <erUSUL> scifi: you have to put 'default     3' to boot windows as it is the 4th stanza (0,1,2,3)
[07:38] <wahjava> funman: BTW, what 1 stands for after permissions ??
[07:38] <funman> wahjava: the number is the physical links number
[07:39] <funman> i found it in man ls
[07:39] <wahjava> funman: i-node number ??
[07:39] <funman> no
[07:39] <funman> try that
[07:39] <Dutchy> how do I allow programs internet access if they dont have it automatically?
[07:39] <funman> ln file file2
[07:39] <funman> and ls -l again
[07:39] <erUSUL> !enter
[07:39] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[07:39] <wahjava> funman: you mean link count
[07:40] <funman> yeah
[07:40] <scifi> erUSUL: so change saveddefault line for windows entry to 'savedefault   3'? all the other lines also have savedefault, but no numbers next to them?
[07:40] <green_earz> ndlovu_: when you asked if the mount points from cfdisk are from boot time i think you are ringht and not as i said that they are from the fstab file. if so use the info the build your fstab file
[07:40] <wahjava> Dutchy: if u r connected to internet, ur apps already have the access, I think so
[07:41] <signius> ok there is something proper screwed up going on with this IPV6 within ubuntu is anyone familar with all the IPV6 stuff
[07:41] <wahjava> funman: what do I do now ??
[07:41] <erUSUL> scifi: no. the default entry in the beginnig of the file. i've never said savedefault.
[07:41] <pulver> hey anyone know names of msn servers? can't connect to the damn thing...
[07:41] <funman> check if filesystem is readonly
[07:41] <funman> and make a chmod u+w file to be sure
[07:41] <Dutchy> wahjava, i just tried limewire in sudo and it worked, it didnt work without sudo
[07:41] <wahjava> Dutchy: make sure your DNS servers, and gateway are properly setup ??
[07:42] <green_earz> ndlovu_: all so run the command mount the see where and whats mounted
[07:42] <erUSUL> scifi: the line is 'default        0' or 'default    X_sequence' change it to say 'default    3'
[07:42] <wahjava> Dutchy: I don't know what limewire is, so probably I won't help u out ?? But to be sure that u've internet access, u can do "ping google.com" ??
[07:42] <ndlovu_> green_earz: I thought it looked different from what was in my fstab file. I was concerned that by mounting the wrong filesystem to the wrong point things might get overwritten, so I've booted into a livecd
[07:43] <wahjava> funman: You mean it could be possible that 'ls' is outputting wrong values ??
[07:43] <ndlovu_> green_earz: any idea how to mount /etc though?
[07:43] <Dutchy> limewire is a file sharing program, and yeah im quite sure I have internet access or i wouldnt be typing here.... its just that limewire only seems to work when i use sudo
[07:43] <funman> wahjava: no
[07:43] <scifi> erUSUL: but those lines have #s in front of them, arent they just examples?
[07:43] <Dutchy> im not quite sure i want to be running a file sharing program with sudo though :P
[07:43] <signius> if i disbale IPV6 in aliases it makes not odds but i then go on to disable the network.dns.disableIPV6 but setting the value to true in firefox it then breaks the IPV4 IP address's for the wired NIC if it change it back to false then it all works again and the wired NIC gets all the relevant IPs from the DHCP server
[07:44] <wahjava> funman: done this "chmod -c u+w docman.py" ?? but nothing printed on terminal
[07:44] <signius> but i am still completely stumped as to why the IPV4 stuff refuses to work on the wirelss NIC
[07:44] <wahjava> funman: this means file perms are intact.
[07:44] <funman> wahjava: what about file system ?
[07:44] <marginoferror> Does anyone know why IBMgraphics on nethack doesn't work on my Ubuntu install, when it used to work on Debian?
[07:44] <signius> I have tried 2 different wireless NICs with different chipset and same results
[07:45] <wahjava> funman: well, it is ext3 fs and I can save file with w! in vim .
[07:45] <erUSUL> scifi: look for the first line that begins with default in the file
[07:45] <marginoferror> I have a couple guesses, but I wanted to know if anyone else had encountered the problem.
[07:45] <funman> wahjava: the number in ls -l output is 1 ?
[07:46] <wahjava> wahjava: yes
[07:46] <ndlovu_> green_earz: okay, figured it out (I think) "sudo mount -t ext3 -o rw /dev/hda(x) /mnt/tmp"
[07:46] <scifi> erUSUL: i see it now the line saying 'default        0' or 'default    X_sequence' has no # in front, sorry, so change X_sequence to 3 not 0?
[07:46] <signius> come on guys some of you must be clued up with the IPV4 & IPV6 stuff in ubuntu
[07:46] <funman> wahjava: then i don't know
[07:46] <funman> wahjava: try copying it and editing it again
[07:46] <funman> or try a chmod a+w
[07:46] <wahjava> funman: /dev/sda6 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[07:46] <green_earz> ndlovu_: to find out which is which yes
[07:47] <Kork_> hi guys, got a question
[07:47] <erUSUL> scifi: yes.
[07:47] <wahjava> funman: output of mount for '/'
[07:47] <marginoferror> Hmm, no ideas?  =(
[07:47] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> hello evrybody
[07:47] <scifi> erUSUL: does it matter how many spaces after the word "default" i put the 3?
[07:47] <green_earz> ndlovu_: then should be able to build your fstab file up again hope so
[07:48] <Kork_> does firefox 1.5.0.2 get added to the dapper reps or do i have to do an update myself?
[07:48] <erUSUL> scifi: you can put a # in front of the line you have now and put an extra line without # that says 'default    3'
[07:48] <erUSUL> scifi: no. i do not think so
[07:48] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> how to i telnet into ubuntu  5.10
[07:48] <funman> wahjava: have u tried another editor ?
[07:48] <signius> I think i am about to sump this dapper drake and go back to breezy
[07:48] <signius> sump = dump
[07:48] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> hahaha
[07:48] <wahjava> funman: copied to another file, but same thing with vim
[07:48] <FlannelKing> !ipv6
[07:48] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[07:48] <welshbyte> kork: i'm guessing it'll be added before dapper is released since it's only small updates
[07:48] <marginoferror> Jatt, are you absolutely sure you want to telnet?  Not SSH or something?
[07:48] <ndlovu_> green_earz: looks like it should be good now. I just hope none of them were corrupted in the confusion.
[07:48] <wahjava> funman: will try nano
[07:49] <Kork_> ok, thx welsh
[07:49] <scifi> erUSUL: ok thx will try it, brb
[07:49] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> my bad ssh
[07:49] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> is wat i want to do
[07:49] <funman> wahjava: is the directory belonging to ashish ?
[07:49] <Kork_> dapper is quite fine already :-)
[07:49] <funman> r u logged as ashish ? :)
[07:49] <wahjava> funman: yup
[07:49] <marginoferror> Jatt:  http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-ssh-server
[07:49] <green_earz> ndlovu_: it sounds like you got the methed to restort the fstab
[07:49] <wahjava> funman: yup directory belongs to ashish
[07:49] <marginoferror> This should have everything you need.
[07:49] <funman> wahjava: is the +x bit set on the directory ?
[07:50] <Jatt_kol_12_borh> thnks
[07:50] <funman> and +w
[07:50] <wahjava> funman: in nano, it worked
[07:50] <lietuvis> Hi, I'm searching a way to unload a module during a boot up. Do you have any ideas? It's like the contrary to /etc/modules.
[07:50] <marginoferror> NP
[07:50] <FlimFlamMan> i need to pass a variable like blah$123 to a command on a remote host via ssh. i tried:   user@host /usr/bin/foo blah\$123   but it's losing the backslash when the variable reaches foo on the other host.  any ideas?
[07:50] <funman> wahjava: any vim cached file in the directory ?
[07:50] <funman> a .something ?
[07:50] <wahjava> funman: drwxr-xr-x  3 ashish ashish 4096 2006-04-17 23:18 ../python
[07:50] <signius> ubotu i already tried that and it doesnt work
[07:51] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, signius
[07:51] <digits> FlimFlamMan: you quoted it?
[07:51] <wahjava> funman: docman.py~ exists but it has same permissions as docman.py
[07:51] <funman> wahjava: remove it
[07:51] <FlimFlamMan> digits, blah$123 is a variable value - actually i'm calling that from a locxal script
[07:51] <green_earz> lietuvis: you can install the module with modconf   aptitude install modconf  and then trick down the module you want to install
[07:51] <funman> it's a backup fiel
[07:51] <funman> file
[07:51] <ezech> hi
[07:51] <ndlovu_> green_earz: lucky about the mount points being written as the label - thanks for the suggestions :-)
[07:51] <wahjava> wahjava: sorry,
[07:51] <wahjava> s/wahjava/funman
[07:51] <lietuvis> ok, i'll try that
[07:51] <wahjava> funman: I'm really idiot
[07:51] <signius> i done a tonne of google and searching all afternnon this seems to be something seriously knackered
[07:52] <funman> what was it ?
[07:52] <wahjava> funman: I've added in last line: "vim:ts=4:ro" ;-)
[07:52] <FlannelKing> signius: have you tried asking in #ubuntu+1?
[07:52] <funman> :)
[07:52] <wahjava> funman: LOL on my idioticness
[07:53] <green_earz> ndlovu_: np and yes them words rsnapshot your friend
[07:53] <ltibor65> Hi Guys, help me please! How can I install HP ScanJet 3400C scanner on LPT port?
[07:53] <signius> there other problems related to switching between wired and wilress cards also as you cannot change back to the wired NIC if the wirelss card isnt in the PCMCIA slot and this appears to have been filed as a bug before not just for ubuntu but for fedora also
[07:53] <wahjava> funman: I'm new to IRC, and I'm using X-Chat, could u please tell me how u just emoted
[07:53] <ezech> is ubuntu with new gnome available already? (www.ubuntu.com doesn't say anything about it)
[07:53] <wahjava> funman: I mean laughed ??
[07:54] <marginoferror> wahjava, type "/me" at the beginning of the line.
[07:54] <funman> /me
[07:54] <funman> /me laughs
[07:54] <funman> gives
[07:54] <FlannelKing> ezech: dapper is going to be released on june1, although you can get the alpha currently, and on the 20th, the beta is being released.
[07:54] <marginoferror> There we go.
[07:54] <funman> /me isn't xchat specific, it's irc specific
[07:54] <funman> it means u make an action
[07:54] <ub0ti> ok...what are we? the irc-101? :P
[07:54] <ezech> FlannelKing: thanks :) it would be very helpful if there was "what's included" on ubuntu.com
[07:54] <funman> u should have used '/me is a perfect idiot'
[07:55] <funman> :)
[07:55] <ezech> wahjava: try /help
[07:55] <ezech> or google for 'irc'
[07:55] <wahjava> ezech: any manual (or tutorial) that can teach me basic IRCing ??
[07:55] <ezech> and while you're on it, don't omit the 'netiquete'
[07:55] <JymmmEMC> When I apg-cache search php, the only results are php5, I'm looking for php4. What do I need to edit to get the older stuff? (also want apache 1.3x too =)
[07:55] <JymmmEMC> err apt
[07:56] <wahjava> ezech: ok
[07:56] <funman> ezech: is netiquete an english word ?
[07:56] <marginoferror> Well, sort of...
[07:56] <ub0ti> you can excuse the typo- its etiquette...i think :(
[07:56] <ndlovu_> green_earz: it worked!! my computer is saved!
[07:56] <ub0ti> err... netiquette.
[07:56] <funman> ubotu: yes it is but thought it was french-specific
[07:56] <ubotu> funman: I think you lost me on that one
[07:57] <marginoferror> funman, it makes sense in English too.
[07:57] <green_earz> ndlovu_: nice one
[07:57] <funman> etiquette is the way to behave in the old style
[07:57] <funman> ultra politeness
[07:57] <funman> and things like that
[07:57] <marginoferror> Anyway, gotta go.  Later.
[07:58] <lietuvis> green_earz, thanks for the tip. It looks as modconf is what I was looking for. Now another question, does anyone remember where exactly pcspkr module hides? I can't find it for a moment.
[07:58] <acid-trip> ok is there a xmms-perl add on i can apt-get?
[07:59] <green_earz> wahjava : http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[07:59] <almuleon> -,m.n,mn,-mn
[07:59] <errpast-wc>  I've got a box with no CD or floppy, would like to put on Ubuntu.  Obviously, can't directly use CD or boot floppy, would pxe be the way to go?  Other possibilities?  It does have a eth interface
[07:59] <scifi> erUSUL: it wont let me edit the file :P
[07:59] <almuleon> ola quierneres
[07:59] <FlimFlamMan> http://pastebin.com/665472  <--- this describes a problem i'm having preserving a dollar sign in a parameter to a remote script via ssh - any suggestions?
[08:00] <almuleon> eeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrro
[08:00] <scifi> erUSUL: and it my file its 'default   0' not 'default   X_sequence'
[08:00] <almuleon> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[08:00] <sands> does any1 know how to know the contents of a squid cache server of my ISP..
[08:01] <green_earz> lietuvis: is it the sound card module you are after ?
[08:01] <Nukeador> hi
[08:01] <Sue_Denim> hi
[08:01] <erUSUL> scifi: have you used sudo?
[08:01] <Nukeador> could be any porblem to burn the daper iso into a dvd instead of a cd?
[08:01] <eduardo_> hola
[08:01] <erUSUL> !es
[08:01] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:02] <lietuvis> No, not really. I just want to make pc speaker shut up. I can do it by running 'rmmod pcspkr' but I want to do it automatically.
[08:02] <scifi> erUSUL: i tried sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst and it opens a blank file, cant work out how to use it
[08:02] <acid-trip> ok is there a xmms-perl add on i can apt-get?
[08:02] <scifi> erUSUL: with gksudo gedit /boot/menu/grub.lst command says authentication rejected
[08:03] <grogoreo> hi
[08:04] <gjastasi> ola hay alguien?
[08:04] <grogoreo> I have an mp3 player and I want to have a custom icon for when it is mounted. As it's a hard drive player the icon is one of a hard drive, is there any way to have an icon just for this device?
[08:04] <erUSUL> scifi: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst should work note that it is an l not a number 1 in menu.*l*st
[08:04] <PuMpErNiCkEl> !es
[08:04] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:04] <PuMpErNiCkEl> !br
[08:04] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[08:04] <green_earz> scifi: cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:04] <erUSUL> !tell gjastasi about es
[08:04] <gjastasi> que es eso?
[08:05] <funman> !fr
[08:05] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:05] <funman> !?
[08:05] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, funman
[08:05] <erUSUL> gjastasi: vete a #ubuntu-es esto es un canal en ingls
[08:05] <texasd319> hey all
[08:05] <Frogzoo> how can I tell k3b to write a .cue file, as opposed to .iso ?
[08:05] <funman> !tell me aim of life
[08:05] <grogoreo> texasd319, hi
[08:05] <funman> !tell funman aim of life
[08:05] <scifi> erUSUL: it open using sudo nano, but not in a text editor, its command line
[08:06] <texasd319> just got wine workin ubuntu is nice. what is good app to image an external drive
[08:06] <scifi> green_earz: i will try that too
[08:08] <green_earz> texasd319: do you mean to backup to a external drive ? if so check out rsnapshot
[08:08] <elad`> How do I find out what shell I'm on?  nova:~>
[08:08] <erUSUL> funman: to play with the bot use '/msg ubotu'
[08:08] <lietuvis> green_earz, I've finally found it under kernel/drivers/input/misc. So I guess the problems is solved. Thanks for the help.
[08:08] <mambotech> guy's I am new to ubuntu ...how can I search for minicom on install it
[08:08] <texasd319> rsnapshot
[08:08] <elad`> How do I find out what shell I'm on?  That's what the command-line looks like: nova:~>
[08:08] <erUSUL> scifi: nano is a text editor and is easy to use move arraund with cursor keys
[08:09] <elad`> And how do I make bash my default shell?
[08:09] <green_earz> lietuvis: np and modconf is a handy tool all the best
[08:09] <elad`> That computer's not running Ubuntu, btw. I'm SSHing to it. My uni's computer.
[08:09] <texasd319> anyone here in the states use Verizon or Sprint broadband mobile cards in Ubuntu
[08:10] <lietuvis> Yeah, I've noticed that it's very useful. I'll try to skim one day through all the unneeded modules that get loaded. Just to speed up a bit the boot time.
[08:10] <Nukeador> could I have any problem for burning the daper iso into a dvd instead of a cd?
[08:11] <jindiaz> anyone out there an EXPERT with mounting harddrives?  fstab, etc?
[08:11] <erUSUL> elad`: try the help command
[08:11] <elad`> command not found
[08:11] <tomplast> is there anyway to add distortions to the sound (from the microphone) before skype gets it?
[08:11] <erUSUL> !tell jindiaz about anyone
[08:11] <funman> !dapper
[08:11] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[08:12] <jindiaz> lol, erUSUL
[08:12] <texasd319> how do you upgrade to the new version
[08:12] <texasd319> is it difficult?
[08:12] <mambotech> guys how do i add an application
[08:13] <green_earz> lietuvis: here a handy link find out what your pci module are > http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[08:13] <Linuturk> mambotech: gnome or kde?
[08:14] <mambotech> minicom
[08:14] <dpm> how can I check the version of a library from the command line?
[08:14] <jindiaz> ok, can an EXPERT with mounting hd's in this case a secondary hd which is having serious issues being accessed once mounted.  it is mounted, i can get into it, its in ext3 format, but i cannot create folders.  something to do with fstab.  yet with sudo privilages opening konquerer i can do what i want.  how do i edit fstab inorder to fix this problem?
[08:14] <Tomcat_> dpm: "dpkg -l libname"
[08:14] <Linuturk> mambotech: i was going to say synaptic, but I only know gnome
[08:14] <Tomcat_> dpm: Or "apt-cache show libname"
[08:14] <ndlovu_> anyone know why sound juicer would crash when I try to rip a CD to WAV files?
[08:14] <dpm> Tomcat_, thanks a lot
[08:15] <Linuturk> ndlovu_: because you used California oranges instead of Florida oranges :-P I really have no clue
[08:15] <dpm> Tomcat_, what about libraries that haven't been installed from a deb package but compiled from source?
[08:16] <ndlovu_> Linuturk: it's a frikkin fruit salad in here!
[08:16] <erUSUL> jindiaz: paste your fstab in pastebin. what is this partition used for?
[08:16] <tempest1> Hey, for some reason I'm not getting any output when I try and play a midi file.. does anybody know where to check the configuration for that?
[08:17] <Rudemeister> apt-get install oracle-xe
[08:17] <mambotech> OK ..I have a new install of ubuntu and I can only logon as myself ....I have tried su but I don't no what the password is to switch to root ...as it didn't ask me at install  ???
[08:17] <jindiaz> erUSUL: for mass data storage
[08:17] <tempest1> mambotech: sudo su
[08:17] <FlannelKing> !tell mambotech about root
[08:17] <green_earz> ndlovu_: is there room for the wav ?  grip and good ripper     aptitude show grip
[08:17] <tempest1> type in your pass, then do passwd
[08:17] <lietuvis> green_earz, so if I do have some modules loaded which are not in the list that I get, I can safely unload them (except, of course, for those critical modules like filesystem, etc.)?
[08:18] <ZigZag> hey guys! I'd like to know how to enable antialiasing for small fonts. Anyone have an Idea as to where that is set?
[08:18] <tempest1> ZigZag: using Gnome window manager?
[08:18] <ndlovu_> green_earz: plenty space. will try grip also.
[08:18] <ZigZag> tempest1: yeah
[08:18] <tempest1> ZigZag: go to System, Preferences then Font
[08:19] <ZigZag> tempest1: and then?
[08:19] <tempest1> uhm, look at your options?
[08:20] <ZigZag> tempest1: they're all set. it's only the small fonts I have problems with, as I said...
[08:20] <biyinzika> Hi!!!!!!!!!
[08:20] <green_earz> lietuvis: be very carefull with the module remove  if you want to get a bit more speed out the system check out hdparm the tweak up your hard dma and set it to 32 bit instead of 16 bit
[08:20] <xrokos> hi
[08:21] <jindiaz> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12456
[08:21] <erUSUL> jindiaz: you can put 'users' in the option part of the fstab line. or better make dirs in that partition owned by the users you want
[08:22] <jindiaz> erUSUL: ermmmm say whut?
[08:22] <procrastinator> if I want the computers that are connected to my eth1 through a class C static ip network to access my internet connection on my eth0, should I use a networking bridge or routing of some sort? And is there a difference at all?
[08:22] <green_earz>   lietuvis: http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_hdparm_to_improve_IDE_device_performance#Getting_information_about_your_different_drives > http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2000/06/29/hdparm.html > http://www.linuxnetmag.com/en/issue7/m7hdparm1.html
[08:24] <sethk> procrastinator, there is a difference, yes
[08:24] <sethk> procrastinator, all you need to do is to enable ip forwarding on your box.
[08:25] <procrastinator> sethk: okay...
[08:25] <alon> can i remove the (windows) mounted partition from desktop (without unmounting)
[08:25] <sethk> procrastinator, that's done with sysctl.  do sysctl -a | grep forward     that will show you the current state of forwarding on your box
[08:25] <sethk> procrastinator, you change it with sysctl -w
[08:25] <lietuvis> green_earz, that does sound interesting. I'll try it when I have some more free time and no important paper works to finish (just in case it doesn't work) :)
[08:25] <sethk> procrastinator, usually you need only turn on net.ipv4.ip_forward
[08:25] <ub0ti> finally, managed to set the firewall to allow bitttorrent service...am getting speeds upto 10kbps- highest i get on my conenction is 36kbps (on windows)...so what else should i do to get the max connection.
[08:26] <ndlovu_> green_earz: grip seems to be working. thanks again :-)
[08:26] <tombs> hi all
[08:26] <alon> can i remove the (windows) mounted partition from desktop (without unmounting)
[08:26] <ub0ti> hey, green_earz- finally, am getting it to download someth :D
[08:26] <biyinzika> Hi!!!
[08:26] <sethk> procrastinator, a bridge is used to make two subnets behave as one.  It forwards everything between the subnets.  A router forwards only packets that the routing table requires forwarding of
[08:26] <GaMeZ> hi :)
[08:26] <procrastinator> sethk: I configured a network bridge in /etc/network/interfaces -- should I just remove that?
[08:26] <green_earz> lietuvis: np and rip rip away
[08:26] <erUSUL> jindiaz: try '/dev/hdb1       /mnt/cartoons   ext3    defaults,users,umask=000  0   0'
[08:27] <procrastinator> sethk: okay, Ill remove it
[08:27] <sethk> procrastinator, yes, I would.  It probably won't hurt, but you don't need it and it's a complication
[08:27] <lietuvis> green_earz,  np, what's that?
[08:27] <biyinzika> How is good life
[08:27] <green_earz> lietuvis: no problem np
[08:28] <jindiaz> erUSUL: oops, srry when i copy and pasted forgot that other 0, yah it is like that already
[08:28] <lietuvis> oh (: i don't use IRC that often
[08:28] <Jowi> hi all. is there a wiki describing how to set up the system to use maildir by default?
[08:28] <erUSUL> jindiaz: the defaults part too?
[08:29] <green_earz> ub0ti: nice one and here a couple of torrent sites > http://isohunt.com/ > http://thepiratebay.org/  just in case ?
[08:29] <procrastinator> sethk: okay, I switched net.ipv4.ip_forward on. What about net.ipv6.conf.eth1.forwarding and net.ipv6.conf.eth0.forwarding?
[08:30] <ub0ti> heh. not to worry- have had 'em for months...
[08:30] <sethk> procrastinator, unlikely that you are actually using ipv6, but turning them on will not hurt.  The general (not eth specific) switches override the network interface specific switches
[08:30] <sethk> procrastinator, I would turn them all on; one less thing to wonder about
[08:31] <green_earz> ub0ti: and for all things political > http://www.chomskytorrents.org/
[08:31] <procrastinator> sethk: okay. What now?
[08:31] <ub0ti> green_earz: do u happen to know where pgactorrents is now? they've gone 'underground' and its been sometime since i last visited there...they changed the uRL and i got locked out my spymac a/c
[08:31] <procrastinator> sethk: nothing?
[08:31] <Jowi> !maildir
[08:31] <ubotu> Jowi: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:31] <ub0ti> green_earz: - Woohoo! thanks, his books are always good
[08:32] <lietuvis> ok, my last question. I have an IBM Thinkpad R50e and I'd like sometimes to make it sleep. I used this --> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_on_a_ThinkPad_R50e#Standby.2C_Sleep_and_Hibernation , but, unfortunately, to some reason, it doesn't work. Laptop goes to sleep but I can't wake him up. Has anyone found a solution to this? That's not of a great importance but still...
[08:32] <Jowi> !postfix
[08:32] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Jowi
[08:32] <lietuvis> by saying sleep, I mean stand by or suspend to ram
[08:33] <jindiaz> erUSUL: yah, tried it again just now, didnt work.  think ive tried that already
[08:33] <procrastinator> sethk: I got "Operation not permitted" setting key "net.ipv4.conf.eth1.mc_forwarding" -- should I do anything about that?
[08:33] <sethk> procrastinator, use sudo
[08:33] <bruno> HEY HWO CAN HELP ME???
[08:33] <procrastinator> sethk: I did.
[08:33] <bruno> look,
[08:34] <procrastinator> sethk: It's probably because it's active?
[08:34] <sethk> procrastinator, if the setting of net.ipv4.ip_forward works, then you don't have to worry about the mc_forwarding switch
[08:34] <sethk> procrastinator, it's for multicast
[08:34] <procrastinator> sethk: okay.
[08:34] <green_earz> ub0ti: sorry i do not know pgactorrents, on the noam chomsky site i have i iso that i server >  Fahrenheit 9/11 (Documentary) on a pentium 400 and it runs well
[08:34] <sethk> procrastinator, which you probably don't need.  In ipv4, ip_forward should take care off all packet types
[08:35] <Linuturk> is there a support channel for nvu?
[08:35] <procrastinator> sethk: so, nothing else needs to be done?
[08:35] <sethk> procrastinator, that should be all.  Note that the change will go away when you reboot.  You'll want to put the change into one of the startup files.
[08:36] <procrastinator> sethk: okay, there's no conf file or such?
[08:36] <bruno> sethk can we talk apart?
[08:36] <ub0ti> green_earz: seems i'll have to use windows to download that....still getting only 5 kbps from azureus- installed firewalled and am allowing the ports to go through 10000,10010
[08:36] <sethk> bruno, sure
[08:36] <waylandbill> I want to configure the MTA to send local mail to another host. Where do I do that?
[08:36] <sethk> bruno, but why?  I didn't see you ask a question here
[08:36] <bruno> how I do tath
[08:36] <bruno> that
[08:36] <bruno> ??
[08:37] <sethk> bruno, you have a much better chance of getting an answer by asking everyone
[08:37] <bruno> ha
[08:37] <bruno> thanks
[08:37] <bruno> ha
[08:38] <bicky> I made a script to start-up WoW, but by starting up I want to change my screenresolution to 600x800, how can I do that ?
[08:38] <ub0ti> green_earz: do i have to edit any 'outgoing' firewall policies?
[08:38] <bruno> i have a problem trying to "descompress" a tar.gz file....
[08:38] <sethk> bruno, tar xvzf filename.tar.bz
[08:38] <bruno> I dont know how
[08:38] <bruno> sure
[08:38] <sethk> bruno, or:  gunzip filename.tar.gz | tar xvf -
[08:38] <bruno> but
[08:39] <green_earz> ub0ti: no its behind a nat routre
[08:39] <bruno> its dosent respond :(
[08:39] <Linuturk> is vi like notepad? by that i mean, whenever I need plain text from any program, I always "wash" it through notepad to remove all the formatting. is vi similar in that respect?
[08:40] <waylandbill> Linuturk: vi is a plain text editor, so in that respect it is similar to notepad
[08:40] <bruno> the problem in all that its when I want to descompress a file the pc send me a error
[08:40] <bruno> that dont find the file
[08:40] <intelikey> it prolly wont 'wash' things like you think but it can be used for things like that Linuturk
[08:41] <bicky> bruno : when you've typed the first 2 letters or something press [tab]  the rest of the name wil appear, this prevents typo's
[08:41] <sethk> bruno, perhaps the file is in a different directory?  do    ls filename     see if it is found
[08:41] <bruno> danke
[08:42] <bruno> ha?
[08:42] <intelikey> bruno the pc doesn't find the file ?     the app used to find files is    find
[08:43] <jadaz87> do anyone know of good groupware websoftware?
[08:43] <ktogias> also "$ locate filename" may locate it...
[08:43] <mambotech> anyone here no how to test a com port is working
[08:43] <bruno> but my file is on the desktop
[08:43] <Tm_T> mambotech: plug terminal in
[08:43] <HondaDarrell> is there a way to repair dapper from a ubuntu breezy live cd?
[08:44] <bicky> bruno: then it is /home/ACCOUNTNAME/desktop/FILENAME
[08:44] <jindiaz> erUSUL: umm any ideas???
[08:44] <bruno> ha
[08:44] <alarsson> i have problems with usb-printer (konica minolta pagepro1300w) and ubuntu 5.10. i have the appropriate driver and I'm wodering if there is something wrong with the usb driver. does anyone know how to investigate that?
[08:45] <bruno> can u repeatme the thing of the tab key bycky?
[08:46] <green_earz> ub0ti:  here a torrent that you may find intresting > http://www.mininova.org/search/?search=loosechange
[08:46] <waylandbill> bruno: he was just talking about autocompletion. Type first few letters and press tab.
[08:47] <bruno> jdn
[08:47] <bruno> njsdnjj
[08:47] <bicky> gesundheid
[08:47] <DShepherd> hehehe
[08:47] <bruno> danke
[08:47] <bruno> :(
[08:48] <intelikey> tab completion is a bash built-in    . /etc/bash_completion    expands that function greatly.
[08:49] <jindiaz> ok... so of these 741 nicks.. who has set up their system with more then one hd?  and second of those ppl, who really understands said procedure?  if so, PLZ for the love of god help me... ive been at this for a day and a half...
[08:50] <mambotech> guy's how do I check that the serial port is configured
[08:50] <_jason> jindiaz: what exactly are you trying to do with the other hard drive?
[08:51] <apollo2011> hi everyone
[08:51] <alarsson> anyone who has experienced trouble with ubuntu 5.10 and usb printer?
[08:51] <intelikey> mambotech configured ?
[08:51] <jindiaz> _jason: well, ive already qtpartitoned it, its in ext3 format, BUT i cannot access it without sudo privilages via konqueror.  how do i edit it in fstab to work properly so i can get on with transfering data on to it
[08:52] <apollo2011> I realize this might be possible, but it is well worth me trying...I apparently deleted all my ext3 partitions on my Linux hard drive. Is there any way I can recover these?
[08:52] <_jason> jindiaz: if it's ext3 you have to use chown/chmod to give it the right permissions
[08:52] <apollo2011> If I look in gparted, it shows them as unallocated space
[08:52] <intelikey> mambotech what is plugged into the /dev/ttyS0 ?
[08:52] <estebandido> hello - i have a bizarre connection problem
[08:52] <intelikey> mambotech or what is plugged into the /dev/ttyS1 ?
[08:53] <jindiaz> _jason: ok, plzzz tell me how to do this
[08:53] <mambotech>  intelikey:console port of a cisco router
[08:53] <_jason> jindiaz: do you understand linux permissions a bit?
[08:53] <jindiaz> _jason: i would really really REALLY appreciate it
[08:54] <estebandido> good grief, is there a more manageable channel to ask about connection troubles?
[08:54] <Taser> If anyone is available, I need some help.
[08:54] <jindiaz> _jason: no not at all, this is my first time going thru this amazingly long procedure
[08:54] <acid-trip> is there other repositories i can add
[08:54] <sethk> jindiaz, chmod -R username /path
[08:54] <blindx> estebandido, what's your trouble?
[08:54] <acid-trip> like maybe use some debian ones?
[08:54] <estebandido> well, i just updated from an old 5.04 cd install to dapper
[08:54] <Profichilla_> apollo2011, you should probably try parted (the command line version). It has a restore function. If that does not work, there is a quite powerful recovery tool called testdisk.
[08:54] <waylandbill> jindiaz: it would be helpful to know what you want to do with the second hard drive. other o/s, specific mount point, etc..
[08:54] <estebandido> and now ethernet and wireless are not available in the network admin dialog box
[08:55] <estebandido> as in, not there at all
[08:55] <blindx> ah, I'm not familiar with dapper.
[08:55] <blindx> try #ubuntu+1
[08:55] <_jason> jindiaz: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/filepermissions.html , read through that so you can get the basics down.  If afterwards, you aren't sure what you need to do, just ask
[08:55] <intelikey> mambotech eeek routers i know nothing about... but maybe  ssh -D /dev/ttyS0  blah
[08:55] <estebandido> ok, cool, i will - thanks
[08:56] <mambotech>  intelikey:np problem
[08:56] <jindiaz> _jason: ok, the primary hd is already xp and linux.  this secondary hd is going to be primarily cartoons such as simpsons, etc.. the third will be anime and the fourth normal tv.  this one has already been set as /mnt/cartoons
[08:56] <gahan> is there a painless way to share sound device beetwen mozilla, xmms etc?
[08:56] <acid-trip> is there other repositories i can add??
[08:57] <manuel__> hola world
[08:57] <procrastinator> sethk: are you still there?
[08:57] <sethk> procrastinator, yes, for a moment
[08:57] <blindx> Any utilities for getting rid of a program's task-bar button, and putting it as an icon in the tray?
[08:58] <intelikey> mambotech the router should be listening so there shouldn't be any "configuring"  to the port...   but someone in here has done what you are trying to do, if you can get their attention.
[08:58] <manuel__> my god
[08:58] <manuel__> Where I m?
[08:58] <sethk> manuel__, I don't think he is here
[08:58] <procrastinator> sethk: does the clients have to have DNS info too?
[08:58] <blindx> Taser: shoot.
[08:58] <intelikey> ROUTER help for mambotech !
[08:58] <_jason> jindiaz: for example if you want everyone to have complete access to /mnt/cartoons and everything under it you would do 'sudo chmod -R o+rw /mnt/cartoons' .  The -R tells it to go down into subdirectories and the o+rw tells it to give others read and write permissions
[08:59] <manuel__> thnk sethk
[08:59] <sethk> procrastinator, yes, DNS has to be configured on every machine.  You are taking care of the routing, but DNS is a separate issue
[08:59] <manuel__> that a good news
[08:59] <_jason> jindiaz: be very careful with sudo chmod -R, using it incorrectly can really mess up your system
[08:59] <Taser> I'm trying out Ubuntu at home, and all is well, but I'd like to add more packages.
[08:59] <procrastinator> sethk: okay, what about gateway?
[08:59] <sethk> procrastinator, the gateway should be the ubuntu box
[08:59] <Taser> My dilemma is that I have dial-up at home, and I'd like to take advantage of a hi-speed connection at work.
[08:59] <manuel__> but U didnt tell me, where I m
[09:00] <sethk> procrastinator, the one that is doing the forwarding
[09:00] <sethk> Taser, here
[09:00] <procrastinator> sethk: okay.
[09:00] <B0FH> !glxgears
[09:00] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[09:00] <waylandbill> Taser: burn to CD/DVD and use the disc as a repository
[09:00] <scifi> still havent edited me boot file :~(
[09:00] <intelikey> manuel__ looks like you are in  (Switzerland to me
[09:00] <_jason> Taser: does work have a debian system?
[09:00] <_jason> debian-based I should say
[09:00] <manuel__> jes, that I know
[09:01] <apollo2011> Profichilla_:In parted I use use the rescue command? How close do I have to be with the start/end?
[09:01] <manuel__> that I m in CH
[09:01] <manuel__> but I don't understand
[09:01] <Taser> I don't know where to get the packages from, and if I can FTP to a location where I can download them.
[09:01] <manuel__> what for a chanel is it
[09:01] <manuel__> I ' triing
[09:01] <jindiaz> _jason: yes yes, that is what i want, permanemt access by anyone who logs into my pc
[09:01] <Taser> Jason: Nope, everything is Windows here.
[09:01] <grogoreo> could someone tell me what toolkit was used to create aptitude with like a GUI in the command line?
[09:01] <intelikey> IRC = internet relay chat     #ubuntu = the official ubuntu help channel
[09:01] <jindiaz> _jason: so putting that command in terminal WILL solve this huge and ridiculous problem permanetly?
[09:01] <Profichilla_> apollo2011, I think (not 100%, actually), you can enter the start and the end of the HD and it will automatically detect where partitions start and end. It's just the range parted seeks in.
[09:02] <manuel__> I tri to understand what linux & ubuntu are...
[09:02] <apollo2011> Profichilla_: ok good :-)
[09:02] <_jason> jindiaz: heh actually no not really
[09:02] <scifi> anymore ideas on how to edit my menu.lst file?
[09:03] <procrastinator> sethk: the device that handles the local network on the forwarding box needs no other configuration than its own address and the subnet mask, right?
[09:03] <blindx> Any utilities for getting rid of a program's task-bar button, and putting it as an icon in the tray?
[09:03] <manuel__> and what are the possibilities that ubuntu has
[09:03] <_jason> jindiaz: what does /mnt/cartoons look like right now? is it just an empty directory?
[09:03] <jindiaz> _jason: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[09:03] <intelikey> manuel__ linux = an open source operating system for computers.
[09:03] <Jimmey__> scifi, cd /boot/grub/; gksudo gedit menu.lst
[09:03] <_jason> jindiaz: relax, I don't know all the details
[09:03] <jindiaz> _jason: yes
[09:03] <sethk> procrastinator, right.  the magic happens in the stack, up a couple of levels
[09:03] <manuel__> mhm, yes, I m still working whit ubuntu
[09:03] <_jason> jindiaz: ok so just do this 'sudo chmod 777 /mnt/cartoons'
[09:03] <intelikey> manuel__ http://gnu.com
[09:03] <apollo2011> Profichilla_: Its in sectors right? not cylinnders?
[09:03] <sethk> procrastinator, I'm assuming you aren't using iptables.
[09:03] <jindiaz> _jason: and the owner is root, i just need it changed to my username so everything just works
[09:03] <scifi> Jimmey: and that will let me actually edit the contents of the file?
[09:04] <manuel__> but it's just a month that I have ubuntu
[09:04] <procrastinator> sethk: I'm not.
[09:04] <jindiaz> _ok your shure ryht?
[09:04] <jindiaz> _jason: i mean, your shure ryght?
[09:04] <Jimmey__> scifi, try gksudo nautilus, then work your way to /boot/grub, then open up menu.lst. That will let you edit.
[09:04] <_jason> jindiaz: you can do that too if you want, but if you give 777 permissions it doesn't matter too much.  sudo chown user:group /mnt/cartoons, will change the owner to 'user' and the group to 'group'
[09:04] <Profichilla_> apollo2011, don't know, acutally. :(
[09:05] <apollo2011> k
[09:05] <_jason> jindiaz: sure, go for it
[09:05] <scifi> Jimmey: ok will try that as well :p, brb
[09:05] <green_earz> Taser: you could download the dvd by bittorent and use it a apt source > http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/release/dvd/
[09:06] <sirish> hello fellas I am having an ACER laptop and looking for enable wireless on it
[09:06] <manuel__> I 'll try leater
[09:06] <Jimmey__> sirish, what wireless card?
[09:06] <manuel__> have a nice evening
[09:06] <sirish> SIS
[09:06] <sirish> I am not sure about the exact model number
[09:06] <sirish> but can look it up
[09:06] <Taser> green_earz: Thank you, I'll try that.
[09:06] <Jimmey__> sirish, that would be helpful, if you could
[09:07] <green_earz> np and all the best
[09:07] <sirish> ok just give me a minute
[09:09] <blindx> Any utilities for getting rid of a program's task-bar button, and putting it as an icon in the tray?
[09:09] <jindiaz> _jason: ok, i did that, but after exectuing it brings me directly back to the prompt
[09:09] <procrastinator> sethk: I can ping both devices on the forwarding box from the slave, but not anthing beyond that?
[09:09] <Jimmey__> scifi, before you edit anything: type this into the terminal:
[09:09] <Jimmey__> cd /boot/grub/; sudo cp menu.lst menu.lst.bak
[09:09] <intelikey> Please upgrade to a v5+ browser to view this site. <--- what the crap does that mean.  and "links2 --version" shows "Unknown option --version"  doesn't that break lsb ?
[09:10] <eobanb_> blindx, i believe that's specific for each programme
[09:10] <_jason> jindiaz: which one did you do?  the 777 one?
[09:10] <sethk> procrastinator, check that the forwarding boxes default route is correct
[09:10] <Jimmey__> jindiaz, I think you can do it manually
[09:10] <HaRDaWaY> hello
[09:10] <bruno> well, when i wrote sudo tar zxvf NAMEFILE.tar.gz
[09:10] <blindx> Well I want something that'll do it for any program, even if it's not in that program's settings..
[09:10] <bruno> appears an error
[09:10] <procrastinator> sethk: default route?
[09:10] <Jimmey__> HaRDaWaY, hello
[09:11] <apollo2011> Profichilla_: The bad news, parted didn't find anything. The good news, test disk found everything
[09:11] <sethk> procrastinator, setting the gateway is really setting your default route.  It's where packets go that don't have an explicit route.
[09:11] <Kyynara_> bruno put a "-" before zxvf, so that it is -zxvf
[09:11] <jindiaz> _jason: yah i did the 777 one, it goes straigth back to prompt on the very next line after pressing enter
[09:11] <arrick> everyone, remember I had questions about apache2? I found the answers OFFLINE in the apache server 2 Bible. THanks for all your help though.
[09:11] <_jason> jindiaz: that's fine, now try to create a file in /mnt/cartoons, it should work
[09:11] <arrick> afternoon tonyyarusso
[09:11] <blindx> arrick: what do you mean "offline"
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> arrick: 'ello.
[09:12] <arrick> blindx, IN A BOOK
[09:12] <blindx> a what?
[09:12] <Profichilla_> apollo2011, nice. Testdisk has saved my day several times already, you know. I love testdisk =)
[09:12] <bruno> kyynara: what is the difference
[09:12] <arrick> sorry aout the caps
[09:12] <bruno> ???
[09:12] <obli> hey, could anyone help me put together a command to batch rename a couple of files to replace spaces with underscores?
[09:12] <_jason> obli: rename 'y/ /_/' file1 file2...
[09:13] <obli> thanks
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> obli: Yeah, like that.  Wildcards to the files as necessary.
[09:13] <Kyynara_> don't know really, just thought it would help
[09:13] <procrastinator> sethk: on the outwards device it's correct, otherwise I wouldn't have internet access on the forwarding box. the inwards device needs no gateway, does it?
[09:13] <bluey> for i in *; do mv "$i" `echo $i | tr ' ' '_'`; done
[09:13] <bruno> danke kyynara_
[09:13] <apollo2011> Profichilla_: ok, I will have to reboot to see if everything is back ok
[09:14] <bruno> who spaeak in sapnish???
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> How do I choose to not save sessions?  Gnome is normal, but KDE always loads the same old session from a while back.
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> !es
[09:14] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:14] <sirish> Jimmey I will just log back in windows and be back!! to let you know about the wireleess card details
[09:15] <sirish> will you be online for another 10 mins?
[09:15] <Jimmey__> sirish, before you do:
[09:15] <Jimmey__> Try system > administration > device manager
[09:15] <blindx> Can you install IE6 on ubuntu?
[09:15] <Jimmey__> blindx, why?
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> blindx: You can...but why?
[09:15] <blindx> I'm a web-designer.
[09:15] <Larsson-Sweden> I've got one simple question: How to force-reload the alsa server in Dapper? In Breezy, it worked great with: /etc/init.d/alsa force-reload but the "alsa" script has been replaced with "alsa-utils" and if an app hangs the server i cant reload it!
[09:15] <blindx> I need to test my pages in both browsers.
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> Is he excused then?
[09:15] <Jimmey__> blindx, probably not install, but if you can get a .exe, you could probably run it.
[09:16] <scifi> haraaaay it worked!!! ty who ever told me that
[09:16] <tonyyarusso> blindx: You can install/run it under wine.
[09:16] <Jimmey__> Larsson-Sweden, #ubuntu+1
[09:16] <blindx> ok cool.
[09:16] <Jimmey__> blindx, use wine to run the .exe
[09:16] <blindx> yeah
[09:16] <sirish> hey Jimmey I guess it is broadcom wireless card
[09:16] <Jimmey__> sirish, I'll do some research for you
[09:16] <green_earz> sirish: apt-get install hwinfo  to see if it will find the card info
[09:16] <Jimmey__> ;)
[09:17] <sirish> thanks :)
[09:17] <intelikey> obli did anyone answer you ?
[09:17] <Jimmey__> BAM! Beaten to it.
[09:17] <concretes> what is Totem
[09:17] <obli> intelikey> yes, it worked like a charm :)
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> concretes: A media player.
[09:17] <intelikey> k
[09:17] <scifi> now all i need is a network card and then switch my dads pc to use the usb port and i'll connect to the ethernet port and then i MIGHT actually get online in ubuntu lool
[09:17] <scifi> what a palava
[09:17] <concretes> tonyyarusso,  when i try to load a movie, it says Totem is in use
[09:18] <starshine> I have a dell 370 that used to be happy on ubuntu live CD 5.10 but now when I try it cannot find the CD bay
[09:18] <concretes> over the internet
[09:18] <Jimmey__> scifi, palava, lol.
[09:18] <starshine> the machine has not been opened by anyone so I'm stumped what could have happened?
[09:18] <bruno> kyynara_: heee I did what u said but appear the same error
[09:18] <alarsson> how do I get new drivers for USB port in ubuntu 5.10?
[09:18] <sirish> hey Jimmey it is broadcom wireless card
[09:18] <starshine> It *has* had a new OS put on the hard disk, not that live CD should care...
[09:18] <tonyyarusso> concretes: Do you have other instances going somewhere?  In a Firefox plugin on another page maybe?
[09:18] <scifi> dunno if i spelt that right tbh :)
[09:18] <Yorgos> can i ask sth?
[09:18] <Jimmey__> starshine, something with the BIOS, perhaps?
[09:18] <concretes> tonyyarusso,  no.
[09:19] <bruno> yorgos:sure
[09:19] <Yorgos> well
[09:19] <green_earz> starshine: check the bios for the boot order may be ?
[09:19] <starshine> the bios that asks me to press enter to boot off the CD and happily gives me Ubuntu's boot lilo? sure.  it's the pretty dialog based menus that can't spot the CD anymore
[09:19] <tonyyarusso> concretes: Maybe check your system monitory and try to determine where it is and why.
[09:19] <TylerWalts> hey what is a recommended FTP client w/ GUI?
[09:19] <Yorgos> when i installed ubuntu i wasnt asked for a pass for the root
[09:19] <Yorgos> and now i cannot use the root account what can i do?
[09:19] <Pordos> Yorgos you are correct.
[09:19] <tonyyarusso> !ftp
[09:19] <Pordos> sudo
[09:19] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[09:19] <|main|> hi, i tried breezy installer
[09:19] <starshine> I think it may be one of those annoying "everything on SATA" types
[09:19] <Pordos> Yorgos sudo command
[09:19] <|main|> yet, it will not install into a partition?
[09:19] <Jimmey__> !root
[09:19] <ubotu> it has been said that root is Direct logging as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:19] <|main|> it wants to format my entire 300gb disk :)
[09:20] <scifi> alarsson: if u need usb drivers for ur usb modem, forget it :P
[09:20] <TylerWalts> tonyyarusso, have a favorite FTP client?
[09:20] <Pordos> Yorgos you will be prompted for a password.  you will present your password, and if you are in the sudoers group, you will be able to execute commands as root.
[09:20] <Jimmey__> !sudo
[09:20] <ubotu> rumour has it, sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:20] <Pordos> Yorgos you _can_ use sudo to set a password for the root, and then become root, but it's considered less safe and secure.
[09:20] <bruno> yorgos: in a terminal u apply de word sudo before any command and its request a password
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> TylerWalts: gFTP myself usually.
[09:21] <alarsson> scifi: it's not my modem. i have a printer that won't work despite a brand new printer driver
[09:21] <bruno> alarson: do u search de drievr of youre print?
[09:22] <bruno> alarson: on internet
[09:22] <bruno> ??
[09:22] <blindx> to install a deb file, it's dpkg -i foo.deb right?
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> yep
[09:22] <Yorgos> Pordos, how can i change the password for root using sudo?
[09:22] <scifi> Jimmey_: u disagree thats a palava? :)
[09:22] <_jason> blindx: sudo
[09:22] <Jimmey__> blindx, yep
[09:22] <Yorgos> cause i had a prob installing sth for my eggdrop
[09:22] <blindx> Yorgos: sudo passwd
[09:22] <Jimmey__> scifi, it's just a funny word!  :P
[09:22] <starshine> what I really wanted to do was run lspci on this machine, but apparently the dummy mode before CD finishes loading doesn't have that available :(
[09:22] <scifi> hehehe
[09:23] <Yorgos> blindx, thx a million
[09:23] <alarsson> bruno: yes, it's the same driver as on the installation CD (ubuntu 5.10). I have a konica minolta pagepro 1300w
[09:23] <procrastinator> sethk?
[09:23] <graveson> can someone tell what i did to suddenly have a mount point : /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686-smp/volatile
[09:23] <bruno> alarson: look i have a command but I dont know if this help
[09:24] <bkeating> Hello everyone. Whats the easiest method to install Samba 3.0.20 on Breezy (who's repository only goes up to 3.0.14a)?
[09:24] <bruno> alarson: do u want it?
[09:24] <alarsson> yes, please
[09:24] <Steil> bkeating: is it in the backports repo?
[09:24] <bruno> alarson: wait please
[09:24] <bkeating> Steil: im not sure what i have to add into my source.list in order to get that...
[09:24] <bruno> sudo apt
[09:25] <bkeating> Steil: it's not a lack of documentation, it's just simply hard ti find..
[09:25] <scotth> hello
[09:25] <scotth> does anyone have any recommendations for a good log analyzer.  I'm looking to do several things.  I want to do security related alerts, usage of the server(apache, postfix, cupsys, authlogs, etc.) and any thing else that will create a pretty picture for the PHB.  Any recommendations?  Ive tried lire but I can't get it to work right and configuration has been a night mare
[09:25] <starshine> I just want to know why it stopped working :(
[09:25] <procrastinator> sethk?
[09:25] <alarsson> bruno: I get the message command not found
[09:25] <Jimmey__> scotth, I've not, but I wouldn't mind attempting to code one.
[09:26] <starshine> does 5.10 not speak to adaptec 79xx ?
[09:26] <glatzor> scotth: logcheck
[09:26] <glatzor> for the alters
[09:26] <Jimmey__> Damn.
[09:26] <glatzor> alerts
[09:26] <bruno> alarson: sudo apt-get (or aptitude) install cupsys-client cupsys-driver-gimpprint footprint-db footmatic-db-engine footmatic-gui gnome-cup-nanager kdeprint
[09:26] <scotth> Jimmey__, Ive been tempted... it has to be easier than configuring lire
[09:26] <scotth> glatzor, yeah Ive looked at that.  Mainly want I'm looking for is the pretty pictures...
[09:26] <oH_My> hello
[09:27] <dell500> i'm thinkin' of gettin' a seagate 300gb, SATAII internal HD... do they make USB SATAII enclosures? would it be more useful internal or could it be used as internal without much of a speed loss
[09:27] <pete009> I'm a newbie. Got error "failed to strat Xserver " when booting Ubuntu 5.1 live for Mac Power PC.
[09:27] <intelikey> so there is no way to force a / into a file name ?
[09:27] <Jimmey__> pete009, does it say why?
[09:27] <bruno> alarson: sudo apt-get (or aptitude) install cupsys-client cupsys-driver-gimpprint footprint-db footmatic-db-engine footmatic-gui gnome-cup-nanager kdeprint
[09:27] <starshine> intelikey: well \/ might but why do you want one?
[09:27] <pete009> gave a description - didn't procedd
[09:27] <intelikey> starshine it wont
[09:28] <starshine> I once sawa really dumbe webapp have a "font" that was all pictures of the symbols. as gif named for the character
[09:28] <bruno> alarson?????
[09:28] <starshine> so that dir was full of an awful unreadable jumble..
[09:29] <bkeating> Steil: I uncommented backports, did a apt-get update, then upgrade. im still at 3.0.14a and not .20....
[09:29] <Mystery47> hello!
[09:29] <alarsson> bruno: got errormessage "can't find package footprint -db
[09:29] <Jimmey__> Mystery47, hey
[09:29] <Mystery47> how i can mount empty harddrive to linux...?
[09:29] <scifi> sitecom network cards ok?
[09:29] <Mystery47> i just need it temporary use...
[09:30] <Warbo> Mystery47: Is it formatted?
[09:30] <bruno> footprint(without space)-db
[09:30] <Mystery47> yes...ext3
[09:30] <bruno> allarson
[09:30] <intelikey> Mystery47 sudo mount /dev/hd?# /mount/point      translate  ? #  and  mount point
[09:30] <Warbo> Mystery47: Then "ls /dev/hd*" will list internal IDE drives and sd* will list SCSI, USB and SATA
[09:31] <Jimmey__> Mystery47, try 'mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb /place/to/mount
[09:31] <Jimmey__> ;
[09:31] <ENE|Toxic> How do I enable multiverse/universe package lists so thay are being read by apt-get (I made a server install, and synaptic wasn't included).
[09:31] <intelikey> Jimmey__ no partition table ?
[09:31] <Warbo> Jimmey: Needs a hdb1, not just hdb
[09:31] <mwe_> !tell ENE|Toxic about universe
[09:31] <bkeating> Do I need to comment out some repositiroes in my source.list in order to have backports repositories take effect?
[09:31] <Mystery47> ok....ill try these...thanks....
[09:31] <Jimmey__> ENE|Toxic, cd /etc/; sudo nano sources.list
[09:31] <intelikey> Warbo not nessarrily.  but generally.
[09:32] <ENE|Toxic> Jimmey__ aight thanks
[09:32] <mwe_> ENE|Toxic: edit /etc/apt/sources.list uncomment as explained in the file
[09:32] <Mystery47> thats bad because ubuntuguide dont tell this linux drive mounting...
[09:32] <ENE|Toxic> mwe_yeah thx
[09:32] <alarsson> bruno: it the same message, even without space
[09:32] <mwe_> ENE|Toxic: then sudo apt-get update
[09:32] <harisund> Can someone suggest the best howto for compiling a new kernel, the Debian way (or the ubuntu way)? I can find a few on the forums, but I prefer a tried and tested one :D
[09:32] <Mystery47> ill just go try...bye for now....:)
[09:32] <intelikey> ENE|Toxic see mwe on that.
[09:32] <starshine> is there any newer ubuntu CD than 5.10 ?
[09:32] <ENE|Toxic> intelikey: yeap :)
[09:33] <Warbo> harisund: Usually the standard "make xconfig" works OK.
[09:33] <Jimmey__> starshine, nearly
[09:33] <Jimmey__> starshine, #ubuntu+1
[09:33] <mwe_> bruno: what's footprint-db?
[09:33] <Warbo> starshine: 6.04 is unstable
[09:33] <harisund> Warbo: no no, not just that. The entire procedure, including the creation of a .deb file etc..
[09:33] <bruno> alaesson: look search in som forums in dedicated webpages on the net
[09:33] <intelikey> starshine prerelases    dapper
[09:33] <skpl> can someone tell me what the possible causes of mouse distortion are?
[09:33] <bruno> mwe_: its a command for the print
[09:34] <mwe_> bruno: no it's probably foomatic-db
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> Warbo: 6.06
[09:34] <starshine> Jimmey__: well if it'll speak to sata on piix and adaptec 7902 ultra 320 I'll try the darn thing; I just want enough to come up to pinpoint what its video, etc are so I can load up correct drivers
[09:34] <Warbo> harisund: You see, I don't make deb files. I just use make xconfig, copy the bzImage from inside arch/i386/boot to /boot and make an initrd for it
[09:34] <bruno> that too mwe_
[09:34] <Warbo> tonyyaruso: Oh. I'm out of date
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> !dapper
[09:34] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[09:34] <starshine> skpl: put your optical mouse on a smoother or more patterned surface
[09:34] <alarsson> bruno: ok, I'll take a look in some other forums. thanks anyway
[09:34] <harisund> Warbo: oh ok then. You are using the standard method. Did you have any problems whatsoever at all with that?
[09:34] <intelikey> skpl xorg.conf  error   driver bug   vidio hardware about to go south,   too much ant-acid in the 60's   ?
[09:34] <starshine> Jimmey__: thanks :)
[09:34] <mwe> bruno: I don't have that package available
[09:35] <Jimmey__> starshine, I can't remember what I did...
[09:35] <Jimmey__> :P
[09:35] <green_earz> harisund: http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-kernel.en.html#s-kernel-debian
[09:35] <Warbo> harisund: No, it's just the manual updating of GRUB and things that you have to do. (I don't know exactly which packages are needed (build-essential is obvious) because I usually have development packages installed anyway)
[09:35] <bruno> mwe_: its probably not all the printers needit
[09:36] <bruno> mwe: can u help me
[09:36] <bruno> ???
[09:36] <harisund> Warbo: ok. green_earz: Yes, that was the page I was looking at initially. Can I follow the same method as is for Ubuntu as well?
[09:36] <apollo2011> How do I re-install GRUB after recovering an ext3 partition with testddisk. Testdisk says you might need to do this, and when I try to boot, GRUB has an Error 17...
[09:37] <intelikey> ?
[09:37] <SmokeW33d> i like cookies
[09:37] <intelikey> apollo2011  grub-install /dev/hda    (assuming hda)
[09:38] <bicky> smokew33d every1 does :P
[09:38] <SmokeW33d> there even better thow
[09:38] <SmokeW33d> when your high
[09:38] <SmokeW33d> =)
[09:38] <bicky> never tried
[09:38] <NickGarvey> what do you call those the command line that you get when you ctrl alt f1, f2 f3 etc
[09:38] <Jimmey__> !enter
[09:38] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[09:38] <SmokeW33d> lol
[09:38] <SmokeW33d> must try
[09:38] <SmokeW33d> =)
[09:39] <intelikey> NickGarvey console
[09:39] <NickGarvey> thank you
[09:39] <Jimmey__> ubotu: tell Jimmey__ about enter
[09:39] <SmokeW33d> im outy
[09:39] <SmokeW33d> peace everyone
[09:39] <bicky> hippie
[09:39] <intelikey> what ?
[09:39] <intelikey> oh not me.... sorry.
[09:40] <Warbo> My webcam comes up fine in Ekiga, but copied 3 times horizontally and in b/w in camorama. Should I use camorama, or something better?
[09:40] <bruno> mwe: can u help me
[09:40] <bkeating> Why isn't Samba 3.0.20 in backports for Breezy?
[09:40] <mwe> bruno: please repeat your question, was away ...
[09:41] <webwolf_27> what do I need to install for the de-latin1-nodeadkeys in gnome?
[09:41] <NickGarvey> mwe: thanks a lot for you help yesterday, I really appreciated it, I was able to get the scan working but nothing after that, I plan on trying a bit more later today or tomorrow
[09:41] <NickGarvey> s/you/your/
[09:41] <apollo2011> intelikey: from a live cd or the grub console or either?
[09:42] <mwe> NickGarvey: oh ok. I had to leave. sorry I left you before it was done
[09:42] <bruno> mwe: i tryed  to "descompress" a file tar.gz but the machine sends me an error that couldnt open the file because the file dosent exist
[09:42] <Warbo> apollo2011: intelikey's gone
[09:42] <bruno> whats that?
[09:42] <mwe> bruno: huh? are you typing the correct name. watch the case
[09:43] <B0FH> !hardware
[09:43] <ubotu> well, hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:43] <bruno> mwe: YES
[09:43] <mwe> bruno: I need more details
[09:43] <green_earz>  harisund:      https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[09:44] <bicky> !tell bicky about screenresolution
[09:44] <mwe> NickGarvey: so you got the driver to work somewhat?
[09:44] <Jimmey__> ubotu: tell Jimmey__ about resolution
[09:44] <apollo2011> Warbo: thats ok I figured it out
[09:45] <bruno> mwe: you know, i tryed puting the diresction of the file
[09:45] <arrick> mwe, morning
[09:45] <NickGarvey> mwe: kind of.. I was able to scan and find me and my neighbors network, but that's where my luck ended
[09:45] <bkeating> Why isn't Samba 3.0.20 in backports for Breezy?
[09:46] <scrapy> Lu
[09:46] <scrapy> y'a du monde ?
[09:46] <scrapy> Wai y'en a
[09:46] <bruno> speak in englis please scrapy
[09:46] <eiwug> Oups Sorry
[09:46] <mwe> NickGarvey: good start though. that probably means the driver is working at least
[09:47] <eiwug>  = #ubuntu-fr = FRANCE
[09:47] <mwe> arrick: hey
[09:47] <eiwug> No ?
[09:47] <eiwug> Hey
[09:47] <rabe> hello, how to convert ico to png in ubuntu
[09:47] <rabe> ?
[09:47] <Jimmey__> rabe, use the GIMP
[09:47] <eiwug> No french members her ?
[09:47] <bruno> eiwung: france je ne parle fancaise
[09:48] <mwe> NickGarvey: is it wpa encrypted?
[09:48] <eiwug> Sorry Bruno ?
[09:48] <bruno> yes
[09:48] <arrick> mwe, do you accept pm's?
[09:48] <mwe> rabe: you can use the convert program from imagemagick
[09:48] <eiwug> Bruno is a french gay ?
[09:48] <bruno> nop
[09:48] <mwe> arrick: ok. didn't notice
[09:48] <arrick> haha
[09:48] <eiwug> No FR her ?
[09:48] <bruno> je ne pas parle
[09:49] <bruno> thets ok
[09:49] <eiwug> Yeah
[09:49] <arrick> eiwug, type /j #ubuntu-fr
[09:49] <eiwug> Sorry
[09:49] <eiwug> I go
[09:49] <bruno> by
[09:49] <eiwug> Bye US !
[09:49] <MdSalih3> to do chown on a file.. all i need be is the owner of the file yes ?
[09:50] <erUSUL> !enter
[09:50] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[09:50] <funman> !space
[09:50] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, funman
[09:51] <mwe> MdSalih3: you can't chown to other users unless you're root
[09:51] <funman> !drugs
[09:51] <ubotu> funman: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:51] <NickGarvey> mwe: wep, but I turned it off
[09:51] <mwe> MdSalih3: using sudo
[09:51] <erUSUL> funman: to play with the bot use '/msg ubotu'
[09:51] <mwe> NickGarvey: ok. but the led lights up now?
[09:51] <NickGarvey> mwe: yeah I had that working
[09:51] <mwe> NickGarvey: good
[09:51] <funman> erUSUL: i understood the first time
[09:51] <Frogzoo> FILE "yourbinfilenamehere.bin" BINARY
[09:52] <Frogzoo> TRACK 01 MODE1/2352
[09:52] <funman> is it yours ?
[09:52] <Frogzoo> trying to install Deus Ex, I get:
[09:52] <Frogzoo> FILE "yourbinfilenamehere.bin" BINARY
[09:52] <Frogzoo> TRACK 01 MODE1/2352
[09:52] <mwe> NickGarvey: you should ifconfig wlan0 up then iwconfig wlan0 ssid <ap name> then dhclient wlan0 probably
[09:53] <morka> hi, i cannot install ubuntu
[09:53] <morka> it would not partition my disk.
[09:53] <erUSUL> funman: then please do not play with the bot here 8^P
[09:53] <morka> it shows my entire disk as fat-16, although all it  contains is ext3/swap/some free space
[09:54] <fbtab> greets all
[09:55] <sirish> Hey guys Do you know any good place for downloading wdrivers for wireless cards for ubuntu??
[09:55] <fbtab> any dev people arround? im wonder if the /etc/cron.d/apt script is obsolete, and what the plans for it are. im trying to make some improvements to it, but wondering if i shouldnt, thinking it might be taken out
[09:55] <skpl> can someone tell me why sudo apt-get dist-upgrade downloades a bunch of programs i do not need onto my system?
[09:56] <rabe> i installed the ati drivers with all possibilities and still get "mesa" !????
[09:56] <ompaul> fbtab, only some would have it
[09:56] <fbtab> ompaul, it seems to be part of the 'apt' package, would all not have it?
[09:56] <morka> so, um
[09:56] <morka> is there a known bug :) ?
[09:57] <morka> ubuntu installer wont read my partition table.
[09:57] <ompaul> skpl, its part of the predefined meta packages you have on your system
[09:57] <mwe> morka: it worked here
[09:57] <morka> im sure it works for some people, otherwise nobody would be here
[09:57] <ompaul> morka, what kind of disks have you got?
[09:57] <morka> ompaul: a 122gb maxtor, im trying to install on it
[09:58] <morka> it contains, a 100gb ext3 partition, a 1gb swap, and the rest is free space
[09:58] <morka> it doesnt read this.
[09:58] <ompaul> morka, okay ehh, ide scsi sata?
[09:58] <morka> ide
[09:58] <ompaul> morka, sudo fdisk -l
[09:58] <skpl> ompaul, it downloaded a brail reading program to my system
[09:58] <fbtab> ompaul, im wondering if it was tested or how it even got here, since it doesnt work very well. this is on a breezy install.
[09:58] <skpl> ompaul, which i do not need or use
[09:58] <morka> ompaul: fdisk shows them properly
[09:58] <Wibble-> hey... I've got mysql 4.1.12 installed, but I need bug fixes from 4.1.13.  What is the best way to obtain this upgrade? I've refreshed the repositories, and they do not currently include 4.1.13
[09:59] <morka> plus, i cannot really do it right now, im not on that machine:)
[09:59] <gratuit> hey, I am running midnight commander in aterm, and the fonts look really odd, instead of lines I get strange characters, anyone have any idea what causes this? it's happened to me before, but I've forgotten the fix
[09:59] <ompaul> skpl, its part of a base system
[09:59] <skpl> ompaul, what is the best way to edit out packages i do not need?
[10:00] <ompaul> skpl, you may remove things but then the upgrade path to the next version will not be smooth,>>> sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename <<<
[10:00] <morka> also, ubuntu doesnt even recognize my ntfs partition on another drive
[10:00] <morka> wtf
[10:00] <morka> how do I force it to install into a specific partition?
[10:00] <arrick> morka
[10:00] <arrick> !ntfs
[10:00] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:00] <skpl> that is a great link
[10:01] <StarOcean> Hmm...
[10:01] <tonyyarusso> arrick: He's talking about the installer.
[10:01] <morka> arrick: the installer doesnt recognize it
[10:01] <morka> it doesnt recognize my partiton tables at all
[10:01] <morka> just shows up entire disk as fat-16
[10:01] <arrick> ouch
[10:01] <arrick> why fat16?
[10:01] <arrick> not 32?
[10:01] <morka> dont ask me
[10:02] <StarOcean> Is there a place I can find out what hardwares this OS supports?
[10:02] <arrick> I had to go to at least fat32 to get my partitions recognized on my first install
[10:02] <ompaul> morka, two things which disk are you talking about and second please don't use the enter key as a comma
[10:02] <arrick> !compatibility
[10:02] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[10:02] <StarOcean> !compatibility
[10:02] <bkeating> i have backports repo's uncommented, but apt-get update isn't showign change... why?  (particularly w/ Samba (3.0.14a.. but i want 3.0.20)
[10:03] <mwe> bkeating: is it backported?
[10:03] <morka> ompaul: whats the difference? it doesnt read partition table properly on *any* disk, i have two, but im installing on a maxtor ide, 122gb, with 10gb free space
[10:03] <gsong> hi there...
[10:03] <bkeating> mwe: i would assume so. where can i go to officially find out? I've been searching...
[10:03] <gsong> quick question about ubuntu as a dhcp client
[10:03] <ompaul> morka, because my next question is are they set to cable select or master and slave?
[10:03] <morka> master/slave
[10:04] <gsong> I have a Debian server using dnsmasq serving out ip addrs
[10:04] <mwe> bkeating: it's probably easiest to just browse the mirror
[10:04] <arrick> ok, time for reinstall to get rid of crap I dont need
[10:04] <gsong> ubuntu client is getting an ip address
[10:04] <ompaul> morka, is ubuntu to install on the slave?
[10:04] <morka> yes.
[10:04] <bkeating> mwe: the URL mentioned in my source.list for backports?
[10:04] <gsong> but /var/lib/misc/dnsmasq.leases shows name and MAC as * *
[10:04] <ompaul> morka, do this >>sudo fdisk -l<< and paste it output into paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:05] <ompaul> nalioth, not really playing music
[10:05] <mwe> bkeating: yeah
[10:05] <morka> i would have to reboot.
[10:05] <ompaul> doh!
[10:05] <morka> one second.
[10:05] <gsong> nslookup gets server can't find 112.156.168.192.in-addr.arpa: NXDOMAIN
[10:05] <bkeating> mwe: would this be right? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/Release ?
[10:06] <mwe> bkeating: without the Release part
[10:06] <mwe> bkeating: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports
[10:06] <gsong> any ideas?
[10:07] <ompaul> all rested DBO ?
[10:07] <bkeating> mwe: but Release is where packages are mentioend, right? I searched that file.. no "samba"  :(
[10:07] <DBO> hi ompaul, yes, all rested, laying off the enter key, and ready to eat some n00bs problems for breakfast =)
[10:08] <ompaul> hehe
[10:08] <mwe> bkeating: Packages.gz
[10:08] <Marineboy> Okay I'mma give this a try today.
[10:08] <mwe> bkeating: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[10:08] <Marineboy> DBO can you PM me please?
[10:08] <DBO> Marineboy, its best if we handle problems in here
[10:08] <DBO> that way the smart people can tell me when I say something stupid
[10:08] <Marineboy> Last night I tryed the guided partition
[10:08] <Marineboy> every partition there was!
[10:09] <bkeating> mwe: doesn't look like it's in there :(
[10:09] <DBO> Marineboy, ok, well done
[10:09] <Marineboy> and I still got errors when installing "Base System"
[10:09] <arrick> !enter
[10:09] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[10:09] <bkeating> mwe: thanks for your help.
[10:09] <morka_> ok, im back
[10:09] <mwe> bkeating: then it's probalby not back ported
[10:09] <morka_> where do I paste fdisk -l ?
[10:09] <tempest1> Marineboy: what are the errors?
[10:09] <bkeating> mwe: is there a place i can go to submit a request for it?
[10:09] <arrick> !pastebin
[10:09] <ubotu> [pastebin]  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[10:09] <arrick> morka_,
[10:09] <morka_> k
[10:09] <DBO> Marineboy, did you burn the media yourself or is it a stamped CD?
[10:09] <arrick> you can also ghost your old name to get it back for your use
[10:09] <acid-trip> _jason,  is there other repositories i can add??
[10:09] <arrick> !ghost
[10:09] <bkeating> mwe: idunno if you guys are aware, but Breezy's samba, 3.0.14a is broken against all OS X 10.4+ machines
[10:09] <ubotu> it has been said that ghost is type /msg nickserv GHOST <name> <password>
[10:10] <speedsix> Hi, how do I suspend to disk in Ubuntu?
[10:10] <Marineboy> Tempestl: Base System Installation Error. The debootstrap program exited w/ an error (return value 1) check /target/var/log/boostrap.log for details
[10:10] <Marineboy> then it said.
[10:10] <Marineboy> the base system installation into /target/ failed.
[10:10] <Marineboy> DBO: i burned it.
[10:10] <tempest1> and boostrap.log said what?
[10:10] <jtskarbek> quick question I use gkrellm, how would i set it up for it to show up on all desktops?
[10:10] <Wibble-> I've got mysql 4.1.12 installed, but I need bug fixes from 4.1.13.  Do I have to upgrade to Dapper and get 4.1.15, or is there an alternative way of upgrading mysql?
[10:10] <Marineboy> tempestl it has like 4000 lines of code.
[10:11] <mwe> bkeating: I didn't know that. report a bug please
[10:11] <morka_> ompaul: I pasted the output here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12459
[10:11] <tempest1> that's not code, that's a log...
[10:11] <apollo2011> I had problems with GRUB and used a Kubuntu Live CD to run grub-install and reinstall GRUB to the MBR. I rebooted, and now it appears that nothing is in the MBR because it goes right to booting the CD in the CD Drive and if I select Boot From First Hard Disk, it fails
[10:11] <Marineboy> I dont know how to make it give me the samller one that nickrud did lastnight
[10:11] <tempest1> tail /path/to/file
[10:11] <skpl> ompaul, if i use sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename  the upgrade paths will be left intact?
[10:11] <tempest1> i haven't used the installation CD in a while, so i'm not sure what it gives you when you get an installation error
[10:11] <Marineboy> root@ubuntu:~# tail /var/log/boostrap.log
[10:11] <Marineboy> tail: cannot open `/var/log/boostrap.log' for reading: No such file or directoryroot@ubuntu:~#
[10:11] <tempest1> if it gives you a shell to check the logs, try that
[10:12] <bkeating> mwe: it's already been fixed, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/23679  but not backported :(
[10:12] <tempest1> Marineboy: /target/var/log/boostrap.log
[10:12] <ompaul> skpl, no they are not
[10:12] <Marineboy> root@ubuntu:~# tail /target/var/log/boostrap.log
[10:12] <Marineboy> tail: cannot open `/target/var/log/boostrap.log' for reading: No such file or directory
[10:12] <Marineboy> root@ubuntu:~#
[10:12] <mwe> bkeating: hmm. if you're brave you could install dapper
[10:12] <skpl> so even though  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade installed something i do not want on my system, i have to keep it?
[10:13] <tempest1> Marineboy: and you've already tried to do a base install on this system
[10:13] <bkeating> mwe: nope. this is a production machine... well, should be anyway.
[10:13] <kronoz> dapper isn't very broken, it is really quite stable/usable/whatever else
[10:13] <Marineboy> tempestl: yes like 4 times lastnight.
[10:13] <bkeating> I'll just install from source, but i was hoping to avoid that
[10:13] <tempest1> Marineboy: try it today, the file might have been deleted on restart
[10:13] <mwe> bkeating: yeah bad choise then
[10:13] <tempest1> you want to look at whats in that file after you get an error
[10:13] <Marineboy> hrm. okay.
[10:13] <Edison> hi everyone
[10:13] <Marineboy> I'm tempted to call someone that's installed it before.
[10:13] <DBO> Hi Edison
[10:13] <Marineboy> and just about to give up.
[10:14] <ZigZag> Quick question: is Dapper Beta == Dapper Flight 6 ?
[10:14] <DBO> ZigZag, yes
[10:14] <Edison> need help! cant copy a file because i dont have permission to write it, what can i do???
[10:14] <Marineboy> brb
[10:14] <Bobrownik> is there an app in linux to test the cpu stability , like prime95 in windows or something like that ?
[10:15] <ZigZag> DBO: ok, thx. What about the release that was promised for April 20:th, instead of the actual stable release... is this it?
[10:15] <ompaul> morka_, do your windows work?
[10:15] <skpl> so even though  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade installed something i do not want on my system, i have to keep it?
[10:15] <ompaul> morka_, does your windows work?
[10:15] <DBO> Edison, what are you trying to do?
[10:15] <green_earz> Marineboy: if you down load the iso for the ubuntu cd use the bittortent method, reason being it check the download file for errors
[10:15] <DBO> ZigZag, Dapper got delayed for quality ensurance
[10:15] <morka_> ompaul: both systems boot up, and work perfectly
[10:15] <digitalh1v0c> does anyone know how to change the system wide icons gnome?
[10:15] <ompaul> morka_, so what is the problem?
[10:16] <Edison> i have to copy a file in a folder to update a game but i cant
[10:16] <morka_> ompaul: I cannot install ubuntu on the free space, the current ext3 on hdd1 is a SUSE install
[10:16] <Edison> cause i dont have permission
[10:16] <ZigZag> DBO: yes yes, of course... but there was talk of a rather stable beta-release at the same date...
[10:16] <ompaul> morka_, so get rid of the suse?
[10:16] <DBO> ZigZag, it is rather stable now, but still not perfect
[10:16] <Edison> i try changing the folder permission but still couldnt copy it
[10:16] <mwe> dapper is not in the beta stage yet, is it?
[10:16] <DBO> Edison, use sudo
[10:17] <ZigZag> DBO: ok.
[10:17] <Edison> but how do i use it??
[10:17] <PS> hi, how do i access a windows share in ubuntu, do i have to use mnt on the command line or is there some clever support in nautilis?
[10:17] <nicu> hy
[10:17] <ZigZag> DBO: is Dapper X + all upgrades == Dapper 6?
[10:17] <speedsix> Hi does anyone know how to suspend to disc in ubuntu??
[10:17] <webwolf_27> when my /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd/layouts is empty what do I need to install / do?
[10:17] <Edison> cause im new using ubuntu
[10:17] <DBO> PS, Places -> Connect to Server
[10:17] <ompaul> ZigZag, dapper is the name of the as yet unreleased version, it will be called 6.06 when released
[10:17] <paulo> speedsix: I tried the suspend to disk on my Dell PC and it doesn't work.
[10:17] <morka_> ompaul: why would I get rid of a perfectly working install with tons of my personal data, etc ? I want to install ubuntu just to have a look.
[10:17] <DBO> PS, then select windows share and fill in the blanks
[10:17] <gsong> can anyone help me with the dhcp/dns issue?
[10:18] <speedsix> How did you do it?
[10:18] <ompaul> morka_, where?
[10:18] <mwe> ZigZag: flight 6 is a mile stone, a snapshot
[10:18] <gsong> where my ubuntu client is not registering its hostname?
[10:18] <ZigZag> ompaul: yes, I know...
[10:18] <DBO> ZigZag, dapper is discussed at #ubuntu+1 if you wish to go in deapth
[10:18] <ZigZag> please...
[10:18] <ZigZag> I know what Dapper is
[10:18] <gsong> or the dhcp server is not passing it to the dns server?
[10:18] <paulo> Perhaps the suspend to disk needs configuring to be useful, I've not investigated yet.
[10:18] <Dime|RD> how do i setup user accounts for Samba in ubuntu?
[10:18] <ZigZag> just wanted to know if updating through apt is the same as actually installing the latest flight...
[10:18] <morka_> ompaul: I mean, install ubuntu in the free space on hdd, so that I can run it, and if I like it, I will migrate
[10:18] <green_earz> Bobrownik: for genral info of how the cpu is running you can use the command top
[10:18] <speedsix> paulo, How do you initiate the suspend? I'll give it a go
[10:18] <ompaul> ZigZag, yes it it
[10:18] <mwe> gsong: huh? can you manually dhclient your interface and make it work?
[10:18] <ZigZag> ompaul: ok, thank you.
[10:19] <gsong> mwe: the client is getting an ip address
[10:19] <DewDude> i'm having some problems connecting to freenx. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12457 any suggestions?
[10:19] <mwe> gsong: yes
[10:19] <paulo> speedsix, in gnome? Log Out, choose hibernate
[10:19] <Nukeador> hi
[10:19] <Edison> so how do i use sudo to modify the folder or copy something in it???
[10:19] <speedsix> paulo, cheers
[10:19] <ompaul> morka_, your drive is full, if you happen to have space on hdd1  then you need to make that availabe and that does not look likely from where I am sitting seems like you have one huge partition on that box
[10:19] <gsong> mwe: but in dnsmasq.leases the hostname and MAC shows up as * *
[10:20] <gsong> mwe: and I can't get reverse lookup to work....
[10:20] <mwe> gsong: what about /etc/resolv.conf ?
[10:20] <ompaul> morka_, the data you have given me does not indicate that you have free space
[10:20] <ketsugi> Can anyone help me with this problem? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161084
[10:20] <morka_> ompaul: there is 10gb free, anyway, thats not even the point, partition manager in installer, does not print out the partition table properly
[10:20] <gsong> mwe: what should I look for in resolv.conf?
[10:20] <PS> sorry, my pc bombed out in a big way.  i'll have to repeat my q
[10:20] <mwe> gsong: your name servers
[10:20] <DBO> ketsugi, you will get better help if you summarize and restate your question here
[10:21] <amorphous_> hi - I just got a d-link dwl-510. but my box doesn'e see/configure/install it. is there a dpkg way to install it/make ubuntu search for it and install the drivers? I cant seem to find anything relevant in google - it all seems to expect it to be detected. The card seems cool - xp has found next doors network & i've (cheekily) had a little surf from that, but no joy from ubuntu - can anyone point me to a reall simple i
[10:21] <amorphous_> nstall howto?
[10:21] <ketsugi> Basically I get an error message when I try to add certain applets to the panel: WindowSelector and WorkspaceSwitcher
[10:21] <mwe> gsong: also try sudo dhclient <interface> in a terminal and see if it works then
[10:21] <PS> how do i connect to a windows share in ubuntu, do i need to command line mnt, or is there some clever support in nautilus?
[10:21] <ketsugi> and I can't get either of those applets
[10:21] <DBO> PS, go to Places -> Connect to Server
[10:21] <ketsugi> this only happened recently though I'm not entirely sure what caused it
[10:22] <morka_> ompaul: there is free space, because I just added a partion.
[10:22] <polpak> !tell amorphous_ about ndiswrapper
[10:22] <morka_> (from suse)
[10:22] <Nukeador> /dev/sda2       /media/sda2     vfat    gid=1000,umask=0007,fmask=0117,utf8 0       0  (what should i add to allow writing?)
[10:22] <paulo> does anyone have any experience of using samsung laser printers with ubuntu?
[10:22] <ompaul> morka_, I don't see it in that paste
[10:22] <polpak> amorphous_, I think I have that same card actually, and it worked fine w/o ndiswrapper though. What version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:22] <ketsugi> Screenshot of the error dialog here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=8371&d=1145195884
[10:22] <morka_> ompaul: let me show you, one second.
[10:22] <arrick> PS, !ntfs
[10:23] <arrick> type that in here
[10:23] <amorphous_> polpak, breezy
[10:23] <DBO> Nukeador, you will either have to chown the mount point (not recommended) or chown a subdirectory inside the mountpoint with the sudo command
[10:23] <mwe> paulo: no, but did you read the printing wiki?
[10:23] <Dime|RD> i tried access my ubuntu box from windows when it asks me for a username and password
[10:23] <errpast-wl> to upgrade firefox, should I just apt-get install firefox?
[10:23] <kbrooks> OK
[10:23] <ompaul> morka_, only in pastebin
[10:23] <Dime|RD> so i used my username and pw
[10:23] <mwe> paulo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
[10:23] <kbrooks> I need some assistance NOW
[10:23] <Dime|RD> and nothing happend
[10:23] <Dime|RD> doesnt work
[10:23] <paulo> Do you have a url, I've read so many with little success so far :-(
[10:23] <MdSalih3> in bash scripting how can i count the number of files in current directory ?
[10:23] <paulo> thanks
[10:23] <ompaul> !patience
[10:23] <amorphous_> polpak, I also just installed breezy on laptop (dell pIII700) - it was seen on the install - but only loopback when I ifconfig...
[10:23] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[10:24] <kbrooks> How do I find out whether I'm using Kubuntu or Ubuntu? no, lsb_release -a is a nogo
[10:24] <arrick> man there sure is a difference loading the server between a 233mhz and 700mhz computer
[10:24] <polpak> amorphous_, I remember it wouldn't detect the card during install, but if you go to system->administration->networking it should see the DLink card
[10:24] <gsong> mwe: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/665778 results of my dhclient
[10:24] <ketsugi> Perhaps I'll try coming back at a less busy time
[10:24] <DBO> kbrooks, erm, if you are using KDE, thats Kubuntu, if you are using GNOME, thats normal ubuntu
[10:24] <morka_> ompaul: check it out, i just added 10 gigs, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12460
[10:24] <polpak> MdSalih3,  ls | wc -l works
[10:25] <BlueSwirl> kbrooks, is your system blue or brown colored?
[10:25] <apollo2011> I used grub-install to reinstall grub and now nothing happens when I start my computer. If I have a cd in the cd drive that is bootable, it resortss to booting to it. I am psoitive I have installed it according to the directions son the Ubuntu Wiki, and have tried three times but htere is no difference
[10:25] <DBO> BlueSwirl, hahaha, good one =)
[10:25] <amorphous_> polpak, It doesn't - and i dont have gnome on the other box (xircom card - but like i said - was ok on installing, just not once installed (if u know what i mean)
[10:25] <kbrooks> dbo: phrased another way. how do i check to see if someone is running Kubuntu or Ubuntu through the CLI
[10:25] <PS> thanks DB0, don't know how i missed that!
[10:25] <mwe> gsong: yes. can you ping yahoo.com after that?
[10:25] <arrick> what should the minimum size of a swap partition be?
[10:25] <polpak> amorphous_,  does lscpi list the cards?
[10:25] <DBO> kbrooks, "ps -ef | grep kde"
[10:25] <polpak> amorphous_, and can you pastebin the output from lspci?
[10:26] <gsong> yup...this chat session is using the ubuntu machine
[10:26] <PS> arrick: can you can access ntfs shares readonly?
[10:26] <amorphous_> polpak, no :(
[10:26] <DBO> kbrooks, if you see an output that says kde (besides the command you just entered, then they are
[10:26] <amorphous_> and yes... i think
[10:26] <gsong> mwe: yup, this chat session is using the ubuntu machine
[10:26] <amorphous_> polpak -pastebin?
[10:26] <skpl> can soeone tell me what the startup directory is in ubuntu?
[10:26] <gsong> mwe: like I said, I get an IP address just fine....
[10:26] <polpak> !pastebin
[10:26] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[10:26] <mwe> gsong: I'm not following what is the problem then?
[10:26] <gsong> mwe: it's just that other machines on the network cannot find me....
[10:26] <ompaul> kbrooks, apt-cache policy k/x/ed/ubuntu-desktop
[10:26] <arrick> ps that is true
[10:26] <kbrooks> DBO: uh. will i ever be running KDE and GNOME at the same time?
[10:26] <amorphous_> !pastebin
[10:26] <amorphous_> ?
[10:26] <DBO> kbrooks, no
[10:26] <gsong> mwe: from another machine I cannot get to yorda (this machine)
[10:27] <rabe> how can i remove (completely) software i installed without apt-get, for ex. "Ati control"?
[10:27] <BlueSwirl> kbrooks, you can do if you want to
[10:27] <DBO> kbrooks, what are you so worried, you can have KDE and GNOME on the same machine...
[10:27] <skpl> kde bleh
[10:27] <ompaul> morka_, so you point your ubuntu at that partition and let it use common swap with suse
[10:27] <mwe> gsong: ok. I don't think that's a dhcp problem. can you ping the ip from the other machines?
[10:27] <amorphous_> polpak, sorry - i a bit useless... how do i pastebin?
[10:27] <skpl> if you install kde with gnome it interferes with your gnome menu
[10:27] <rabe> how can i remove (completely) software i installed without apt-get, i mean ati drivers from their website (.run)?
[10:27] <morka_> ompaul: how do I point the installer to it ?
[10:27] <skpl> and you have to edit it all out
[10:27] <DBO> kbrooks, you COULD start a seperate X session, but I wouldnt suggest it
[10:27] <kbrooks> skpl: um.
[10:27] <polpak> !tell amorphous_ about pastebin
[10:27] <kbrooks> skpl: ignoring that.
[10:27] <gsong> mwe: yes....I know it's not DHCP per se....
[10:27] <morka_> ompaul: installer doesnt read any of this, it just shows one huge FAT-16 partition.
[10:28] <PS> db0 arrick, thanks, am connected - easy when you know how
[10:28] <arrick> yep
[10:28] <gsong> mwe: but the DHCP is not passing on the hostname info to the DNS server, eh
[10:28] <gsong> mwe: which are one in the same in this case, dnsmasq on a debian machine
[10:28] <PS> arrick, i suspect my default connection is read/write so i shall be careful until i workout how to make it readonly...
[10:28] <gsong> mwe: which I know works fine, at least for Windows machines.....
[10:28] <rabe> how can i remove (completely) software i installed without apt-get, i mean ati drivers from their website (.run)?
[10:28] <arrick> np PS we have mostly all gone throught that stages of learning
[10:29] <mwe> gsong: hmm
[10:29] <arrick> PS, your default to ntfs is only read
[10:29] <gsong> mwe: and I can ping the ip just fine....
[10:29] <ompaul> morka_, okay i am at a loss at this time, /dev/hdd3           13700       14946    10016527+  83  Linux so it should show that as a real partition have you another hard drive or something attached
[10:29] <PS> arrick, oh ok, that's very sensible
[10:29] <Tm_T> rabe: well, those things should be mentioned in ati install-readme
[10:29] <nisobre> alguien de espaa
[10:29] <arrick> PS, yeah, you wont be able to screw up anything in the ntfs partition.
[10:29] <Tm_T> !es
[10:29] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:30] <nisobre> que me ayude por favor
[10:30] <morka_> ompaul: no, i do not
[10:30] <arrick> nisobre, type /j #ubuntu-es
[10:30] <Tm_T> nisobre: if you like to be here, use english so we all understand you ;)
[10:30] <nisobre> como mierda instalo el gnome-art?????????
[10:30] <arrick> nisobre, no comprende espanol
[10:31] <Tm_T> jag habla no hispanjola
[10:31] <nook> How do I set more ttys and move X onto F12 ??
[10:31] <Tm_T> nook: why you need more tty:s
[10:31] <DBO> nook, you need to edit several files, you are going to have to edit /etc/inittab to add more tty's
[10:32] <ompaul> morka_, I have not ever heard of that before, so question one, have you got a live CD?
[10:32] <nisobre> help me gnome-art
[10:32] <nisobre> install?
[10:32] <nook> Tm_T: cuz I hardly use gnome and I simply run out of ffree ones
[10:32] <BlueSwirl> nisobre: #ubuntu-es
[10:32] <morka_> ompaul: no. why?
[10:32] <nisobre> ok
[10:32] <DBO> nook, why dont you just use the terminals in GNOME... they are handy like that
[10:32] <Dime|RD> can someone help me setup Samba?
[10:32] <Tm_T> nook: interesting, I'd recommend to use some desktop and xterm/konsole/whatever
[10:32] <marineboy> still broke, about to go get Windows XP again
[10:32] <Tm_T> nook: I find it better way ;)
[10:33] <nook> Tm_T: NO, I DONT WANT TO USE X's
[10:33] <DBO> nook, so disable X
[10:33] <ompaul> morka_, ruling things out
[10:33] <nook> Tm_T: if i have use to, i preffer fluxbox
[10:33] <amorphous_> polpak, looks interesting - but how do I get text onto my clipboard? can I use lspci > /???/clipboard?
[10:33] <Tm_T> nook: then listen DBO
[10:33] <nook> OMG! I'm not asking how to disable X!!
[10:33] <amorphous_> <--- more apologies for being completely useless :(
[10:33] <polpak> nook, or even if you use console you can use the "screen" program to have multiple screens for one login
[10:34] <Tm_T> amorphous_: you're not useless, you're keeping door open just fine ;)
[10:34] <Cerveza> !vpn
[10:34] <ubotu> hmm... vpn is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[10:34] <DBO> nook, ok, how comfy are you with system files?
[10:34] <nook> polpak: I DO KNOW SCREEN
[10:34] <polpak> !caps
[10:34] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[10:34] <nook> DBO: I use it everyday ;] 
[10:34] <ompaul> nook and I don't like caps please chill a little
[10:34] <amorphous_> Tm_T, i have no idea what door, but thanks :)
[10:34] <Tm_T> nook: you don't have to scream out, keep away from that shift key please
[10:34] <nook> ok, I'm ok, but please dont advice me about x's
[10:34] <DBO> nook, ok, you can add the new tty's in /etc/inittab
[10:34] <Tm_T> amorphous_: neither do I ;_P
[10:35] <amorphous_> Hehehe
[10:35] <polpak> nook, I'm not talking about X, I'm talking about screen. It should do what you need without having to have a crapload of tty's
[10:35] <amorphous_> Tm_T, do you know how to get a file output onto my clipboard? is the clipboard a file?
[10:35] <ompaul> morka_, okay I suggest you make a live ubuntu/knoppix/kanotix CD because if the intstaller is telling you that I would like a "third opinion"
[10:35] <nook> polpak: ok, appreciate that, i'm familiar with screen anyway. thx dude!
[10:35] <Tm_T> amorphous_: it's not file
[10:35] <shane_> hello
[10:36] <polpak> amorphous_, no.. you need to upload the file I guess since you're in command line..
[10:36] <Tm_T> amorphous_: so no, I don't know
[10:36] <amorphous_> so how do I get stuff onto it from terminal?
[10:36] <mwe> amorphous_: gpm
[10:36] <Cerveza> !vpn client
[10:36] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Cerveza
[10:36] <arrick> amorphous_, try ssh to view inside  a gui
[10:37] <paulo> Does anyone know of any tool to provide improved clipboard history in gnome?
[10:37] <Tm_T> paulo: like klipper in KDE ?
[10:37] <Cerveza> anyone know where to find a vpn client for ubuntu
[10:37] <Tm_T> Cerveza: try searching in packages.ubuntu.com
[10:37] <polpak> amorphous_, use gdm
[10:37] <nook> DBO: mate, Is there any way to move X to say F12 ? I can't see anything like that in here
[10:38] <PS> arrick: a follow up q, when nautilus mounts a volume, do it do it in such a way that the volume is accessible through a terminal too?  no mnt is visible in /mnt or /media?
[10:38] <polpak> nook, it's not in there.. That's configured somewhere else
[10:38] <DBO> nook, yes there is
[10:38] <DBO> nook, but not in inittab
[10:38] <ompaul> morka_, the issue is not what the installer sees, as I have never seen one say that before when a partition was make by another linux - I have seen them broken but thats another issue, I strongly advise backups and one final thing, how old is that box
[10:38] <naxxtor> right - my laptop doesn't like loading websites.  connectivity is fine, it's just not loading any websites
[10:38] <amorphous_> thanks mwe, polpak i am apt-getting gpm already - -  i getting there... bit slow though - but moving ;)
[10:38] <PS> arrick, to clarify i mean an smb share 'volume'
[10:39] <morka_> ompaul: the box is maybe 3-4 months old
[10:39] <AlexC_> Hey,
[10:39] <AlexC_> Is it possible to get a WINE working on Mac OSX to play Windows games?
[10:40] <Tm_T> AlexC_: I doubt
[10:40] <ompaul> morka_, thats funny cos the first disk is looking like 6gigs and those disks went out with the mammoths :-/
[10:40] <AlexC_> Tm_T, is there a wine type program for it?
[10:40] <Tm_T> AlexC_: never heard
[10:40] <BlueSwirl> AlexC: not as far as i know. is your mac intel?
[10:40] <BlueSwirl> if it is you can use bootcamp to dual boot
[10:41] <AlexC_> BlueSwirl, nope it's not intel
[10:41] <morka_> ompaul: thats because I kept that disk from the previous computer
[10:41] <Tm_T> BlueSwirl: but then he have to pay for 2 OS's
[10:41] <mwe> AlexC_: only few games are running 100% good in wine anyway btw
[10:41] <rebelwork> Guys on Dapper server if I ship my server to a colo facility and just have DHCP installed will it be able to figure out the connection itself or do I need to hardcode the outside IP somewhere?
[10:41] <mwe> AlexC_: most don't run at all
[10:41] <errpast-wl> I just ran apt-get install mozilla-firefox.  NO errors.  Look like it worked.  BUT, still at 1.0.7
[10:41] <AlexC_> oo, intresting http://darwine.opendarwin.org/
[10:41] <naxxtor> jeez, never mind, it was just my switchproxy extension in firefox playing up
[10:41] <patrick52222> is it possible to mount iso
[10:41] <Tm_T> rebelwork: dhcp should handle it
[10:41] <paulo> TM_T: Yeah like kipper but thats in KDE, is there an equivalent?
[10:41] <errpast-wl> sources.list wrong?
[10:41] <Tm_T> paulo: never seen ;)
[10:41] <BlueSwirl> Tm_T: yeah. and windows is rubbish anyways. *shudder*
[10:42] <Tm_T> BlueSwirl: true
[10:42] <rebelwork> Tm_T thanks :) I'll just leave it to that then and if anything comes up the host could figure it out I am sure
[10:42] <Tm_T> BlueSwirl: I do have WFW 3.11 in my laptop, perfect terminal ;)
[10:42] <patrick52222> is it possible to mount a iso, so i dont have to burn it
[10:42] <BlueSwirl> WFW?
[10:42] <ompaul> morka_, okay here is what I think, your installer is saying that a partition is fat16 your existing linux is saying its linux - this means your partition table is not in good health, this means (A) backup (B) get yourself a live CD and mount the drive and examine all about it
[10:42] <Tm_T> BlueSwirl: Windows For Workgroups
[10:42] <amorphous_> polpak, Pasted - lspci output - can't find d-link dwl510revA
[10:43] <Tm_T> BlueSwirl: something from early 90's
[10:43] <BlueSwirl> Tm_T: interesting
[10:43] <ompaul> morka_, make that partition table may not be in good health
[10:43] <morka_> ompaul: how do I examine it?
[10:43] <morka_> i tried fscking it, it seems to be allright
[10:43] <ompaul> morka_, mount fsck with a live CD
[10:43] <patrick52222> !apache
[10:43] <rabe> how can i REMOVE (not disable) something from the apps panel?
[10:43] <ubotu> I guess apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:43] <Tm_T> BlueSwirl: it is, just com cable to linux pc and I got lightweight terminal ;)
[10:44] <polpak> amorphous_, what's the url for your submission?
[10:44] <BlueSwirl> Tm_T most fine, then
[10:44] <DBO> rabe, do you want to uninstall it?
[10:44] <errpast-wl> I just ran apt-get install mozilla-firefox.  NO errors.  Look like it worked.  BUT, still at 1.0.
[10:44] <Tm_T> BlueSwirl: indeed, I should find my DOS 6.22 licence, I lost it in last move
[10:44] <rabe> DBO, yes
[10:45] <patrick52222> !mountiso
[10:45] <ubotu> To mount an ISO image file, you can use "sudo mount -o loop <image-file> <mount-point>" from a shell (for example, "sudo mount -o loop Ubuntu.iso /mnt/loop", if /mnt/loop exists)
[10:45] <rabe> DBO, but i did alreasy (i think)
[10:45] <DBO> rabe, what app?
[10:45] <polpak> Tm_T, you could try running it with Dosbox
[10:45] <cycom> errpast-wl: apt-get upgrade?
[10:45] <Jowi> is there a way to disable the blankscreen (i'm not running xscreensaver) when playing a dvd?
[10:45] <Tm_T> polpak: why should I, I don't have to because I run it native just fine
[10:46] <BlueSwirl> Tm_T: i just use OS X on my iBook, and my iMac runs Ubuntu. DOS goes over my head ;)
[10:46] <rabe> DBO, Ati control
[10:46] <Tm_T> BlueSwirl: =)
[10:46] <Tm_T> BlueSwirl: you youngsters ;)
[10:46] <amorphous_> polpak, could it be http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12461
[10:46] <mwe> does anyone know of a good gui front end to scp?
[10:46] <BlueSwirl> Tm_T: i'm 23 :P ;)
[10:46] <polpak> mwe, for linux or windows?
[10:46] <rabe> DBO, fglrx-control
[10:46] <Tm_T> BlueSwirl: my laptop is over 10 years old, so...
[10:46] <mwe> polpak: linux
[10:46] <Tm_T> BlueSwirl: and?
[10:46] <me2win> mwe: fish:// :P
[10:46] <DBO> rabe, ah, not an ATI person, you will need to find someone with more experience
[10:46] <mwe> fish?
[10:46] <polpak> mwe, I usually just use places->connect to server
[10:46] <zF> I'm having an issuing with my Ubuntu/Windows duel boot... Randomly one day, when I selected Windows from Grub my laptop just ceased any functioning, it didn't turn off but the boot sequence just never started... Can anyone help me, please?
[10:46] <GTX> are there any programs I can watch winamp video streams on (winamp tv)
[10:47] <Tm_T> BlueSwirl: my first programming attempts happened in late 80's ;)
[10:47] <BlueSwirl> Tm_T: i dunno, people just tell me that i'm not young anymore. to which i say "balls" ;)
[10:47] <mwe> polpak: I use kde. maybe konqueror can do it
[10:47] <ompaul> morka_, let me make it plain for your, if you don't and what your saying is right then the partition table when it is being read by two different systems is saying different things, given that a partition table is how do your machine works out what partition is where me, I would be a little nervous, so get a liveCD boot the box mount the partitions back up what you need to do then go attacking the harddrive with all sorts of tests
[10:47] <Tm_T> BlueSwirl: and yet, I'm actually younger than you :(
[10:47] <DBO> BlueSwirl, shhh, you are dating yourself...
[10:47] <polpak> mwe, ah. Possibly. What do you use for ftp in kde?
[10:47] <rabe> how can i REMOVE (not disable) something from the apps panel (ATI control = fglrx-control)?
[10:47] <BlueSwirl> Tm_T: learning to code is on my list of things to do, right after 'learn portugese'
[10:48] <PS> zF, do you mean your windows install won't boot, or that the whole machine won't do anything?
[10:48] <rebelwork> BlueSwirl: So not that important then. ;)
[10:48] <Tm_T> BlueSwirl: same here, I'm mostly "helldesk" person ;)
[10:48] <Tm_T> ok, this old fellow goes to sleep, peace to you all ->
[10:48] <mwe> polpak: I don't use ftp much. I just use the standard ftp command line when I have to
[10:48] <delta> cya
[10:48] <BlueSwirl> rebelwork: it's a red dwarf quote, basically means i've been thinking about doing it for yonks
[10:48] <polpak> mwe, well you can scp command line too =p
[10:48] <mwe> I know
[10:49] <polpak> mwe, I meant what would you use for ftp in kde if you did use a gui?
[10:49] <BlueSwirl> while i'm here, has anyone had any luck with gktpod? i can't get it to do anything (sucessfully)
[10:49] <zF> PS, well, both
[10:49] <rabe> how can i REMOVE (not disable) something from the apps panel (ATI control = fglrx-control)?
[10:49] <PS> zF, does the machine make it to the grub bootloader?
[10:49] <zF> PS, yes it does
[10:49] <Tm_T> polpak: konqueror
[10:49] <PS> zf, and can you still boot into ubuntu?
[10:49] <Tm_T> but alas, I was sleeping ->
[10:49] <mwe> polpak: I haven't used a gui ftp. I mostly need scp. It's getting a bit cumbersome doing it from cli though
[10:49] <cyphase> wow, this Oracle/Novell thing is getting a lot of coverage in the mainstream press
[10:49] <polpak> amorphous_, hrm.. doesn't look good. If it doesn't show up in lspci, linux can't see the device at all. I had the same problem with some tuner cards
[10:50] <zF> PS, yes, I'm in it now
[10:50] <PS> zF, so it's 'just' that when you try to boot into windows nothing happens, it hangs?
[10:50] <polpak> amorphous_, eventually switched to a different motherboard and they showed up.
[10:50] <zF> PS, that's correct
[10:51] <amorphous_> polpak,  does that mean Ive just wasted my cash?
[10:51] <PS> zF, you didn't happen to repartition, resize etc. any disks before it stopped working?
[10:51] <zF> PS, nothing... However, what happened the day before it happened is I went into Standby mode in Windows, and shut it down by just holding the power switch
[10:51] <tyler__> zF, or did you do a windows 'repair', or install an anti-virus that sees an 'infection' on the master boot record?
[10:52] <polpak> amorphous_, I'm not sure what options are available if lspci won't show the device. Like I said, I eventually just switched out for a different mboard. There may be a way to make it work, but I don't know what it'd be.
[10:52] <arrick> anyone, which repo is ssh in?
[10:52] <polpak> amorphous_, that card should work fine though, I have the same one, and it has no problems
[10:52] <mwe> polpak: fish:// in konq worked. I never herd of fish:// before :|
[10:52] <polpak> !info ssh
[10:52] <zF> tyler__, Nope, no windows repair... and I didn't install any anti-virus softwre in windows.
[10:52] <ubotu> ssh: (Secure shell client and server (transitional package)), section net, is optional. Version: 1:4.1p1-7ubuntu4.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[10:52] <polpak> !info openssh-server
[10:52] <ubotu> openssh-server: (Secure shell server, an rshd replacement), section net, is optional. Version: 1:4.1p1-7ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 190 kB, Installed size: 512 kB
[10:53] <amorphous_> polpak, and would that be the same on a laptop pcmcia card? it seemed to see it ok on install... but not in lspci - or is a pcmcia not a pci?
[10:53] <polpak> amorphous_, I'd guess pcmcia is different. I don't have a laptop though.. lemme check something
[10:54] <PS> zF: oh ok, so what exactly happens when you select windows in the grub menu?
[10:54] <polpak> amorphous_, try lspcmcia ? ;p
[10:55] <zF> PS, basically my screen just goes blank and nothing ever happens.
[10:55] <ana> hi, i use GnomeMeeting and it collapses when i hit ok to connect to account, i read in the forum that the new version of this is Ekiga; i look for it in synaptic but it can't find it - i have added 'all' repositories availalbe... what to do?
[10:55] <arrick> ok, what file is the dns located in?
[10:56] <Talldave2002> i am having problems installing wine, i messed up somewhere, i was advised to remove .wine in home, and reinstall, but each that dosent create a new .wine file, and it wont work.
[10:56] <mwe> lspci is supposed to show pcmcia devices, isn't it
[10:56] <amorphous_> polpak, no joy - but apropos pcmcia seems to include driver for aironet 802.11...
[10:56] <polpak> amorphous_, try cardinfo
[10:56] <mwe> Talldave2002: type wine notepad.exe in a terminal
[10:56] <mwe> Talldave2002: no need to keep reinstalling wine
[10:57] <amorphous_> polpak, unable to open display '(null)' - is this because i installed as server?
[10:57] <amorphous_> polpak, ---no X
[10:57] <polpak> amorphous_, ah. yeah, it's an X program
[10:57] <Talldave2002> ooh lots of scrolling text but it has worked, thank you
[10:58] <arrick> hey what is the command for restarting the netwok?
[10:58] <polpak> amorphous_, try cardctl but I'm not sure what the options you need ar
[10:58] <PS> zF: have you tried booting off the Windows CD to kickstart windows?
[10:58] <zF> PS, no, how would I do that?
[10:58] <PS> zF: which ver of windows are you running?
[10:58] <zF> PS, well, more specifically, what would I do to 'kickstart'
[10:58] <zF> zF, XP
[10:59] <arrick> _jason, I set a stati ip, how do I restart the interface?
[10:59] <PS> zf: well with XP, stick the XP cd in and it will detect all versions of XP installed and will give you the option to boot into one
[10:59] <polpak> amorphous_, cardctl ident
[11:00] <PS> zf: this is one of the menu options
[11:00] <rebelwork> I have a Raid1 ready setup, but I didn't configure it when I installed Dapper server. Does anyone have any idea how to configure RAID1 post-install?
[11:01] <kbrooks> rebelwork:
[11:01] <kbrooks> !dapper
[11:01] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[11:01] <PS> zF: if that works then it's just your boot partition or grub that is a bit screwed, and you should be able to recover it.  if booting off the cd doesn't work either the actual disk data may be screwed in which case you can try to repair that
[11:01] <procrastinator> sethk?
[11:01] <sethk> procrastinator, ?
[11:02] <amorphous_> polpak,  found that in the man just as you said it ;)... it has the xircom, manfid & function: 6 (network)... would the fact that this is wireless mean it doesn't show in ifconfig?
[11:02] <PS> zF: two other things to check are your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[11:02] <PS> zF: and on your windows machine the c:\boot.ini file
[11:03] <zF> PS, do you recommend I do that now?
[11:03] <zF> PS, before I decide to 'kickstart' windows
[11:03] <procrastinator> sethk: yes, I still have the same problem as before.
[11:03] <PS> zF: personally i'd try booting with the cd first
[11:03] <procrastinator> sethk: any suggestions?
[11:03] <picasso> hi, i've got a question about gnome "open with" dialog
[11:03] <picasso> is there a way to enter text rather than having to find the file graphically?
[11:04] <mwe> arrick: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:04] <picasso> for example. i know i want to open an m3u with /usr/bin/xmms .. but i'd rather not have to scroll to /usr then /usr/bin/ then go through the entire list of programs to choose xmms
[11:04] <PS> zF: the thing with the grub and boot.ini files is that they're different for each machine, so it's difficult to know if they're correct
[11:04] <arrick> thanks mwe
[11:05] <zF> PS, right.
[11:05] <amorphous_> polpak, Excitement - apropos wireless says iwconfig! iwconfig says eth0 & eth1exist... they dont seem too lifelike though!!!
[11:05] <PS> zF: sorry it's not straightforward, these things are fiddly i'm afraid
[11:06] <shoofle> GRRRR ok i'm angry at this wireless network.  i wish to connect to the internet.  i can get online on other networks, but i can't get to anything on this one at home.  i have all the numbers right and stuff, except maybe the DNS servers and hosts or whatever.  is there any way to find them out?
[11:06] <sethk> procrastinator, I have to take care of some work stuff for a while.  I'll be back to you when I have a few minutes
[11:06] <errpast-wl> Trying to upgrade to latest firefox.  ran apt-get update.  apt-get upgrade.
[11:06] <arrick> mwe, can you help me out, I just reinstalled server, and ssh as well, but I cant ssh into the box
[11:06] <zF> PS, here is a excerpt from my /boot/grub/menu.lst: http://pastebin.com/665861
[11:06] <errpast-wl> NO errors.  But still on 1.0.7
[11:07] <mwe> shoofle: using dhcp is probably the easiest way of configuring it
[11:07] <zF> PS, notice anything out of the ordinary?
[11:07] <errpast-wl> Do I need a special repository in sources.list
[11:07] <amorphous_> polpak, lists them as 'tsunami'... I'll hack for a biit... thanks for help. prob be back later if that's ok?
[11:07] <shoofle> mwe: it doesn't work.  the stuff that i don't have aren't covered by dhcp, it seems.
[11:07] <mwe> arrick: is the server running and the port not blocked?
[11:07] <arrick> yeah
[11:07] <puski> hola
[11:07] <puski> hi
[11:07] <arrick> mwe, Im logged in locally, and had the thing running before reinstall
[11:08] <Frogzoo> errpast-wl: it's a bit more complicated than that
[11:08] <mwe> arrick: can you ssh localhost on the server?
[11:08] <puski> why?
[11:08] <polpak> amorphous_, sure
[11:08] <seawolf__> salve a tutti
[11:08] <arrick> dont know, how do I check?
[11:08] <puski> hi????????????
[11:08] <seawolf__> hi
[11:08] <PS> zF: no that looks good, i deduce that you had XP installed first and you then installed ubuntu
[11:08] <mwe> arrick: type ssh localhost on the server
[11:08] <errpast-wl> Frogzoo: I've got the latest tar.gz.  Should I make from that?
[11:08] <procrastinator> sethk: okay, thanks a lot for your help anyway
[11:08] <VaporTrace> where am I
[11:08] <puski> k  papones
[11:08] <PS> zF: how about you do the same for your c:\boot.ini file (ie post it to pastebin)
[11:08] <seawolf__> I've got a problem with apt-get
[11:09] <seawolf__> help me
[11:09] <seawolf__> please
[11:09] <arrick> mwe, yes
[11:09] <ompaul> !enter
[11:09] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[11:09] <amorphous_> polpak,  thanks :)
[11:09] <mwe> arrick: yes it works?
[11:09] <PS> zF: i take it your xp drive is mounted
[11:09] <arrick> mwe, yes, and I set a static ip as well when I installed it
[11:09] <Frogzoo> errpast-wl: the only way I know how, is to first install 1.5, and then upgrade to 1.5.0.2 from there
[11:09] <mwe> arrick: so no iptables running or sth?
[11:10] <arrick> mwe, not sure
[11:10] <arrick> how do I check?
[11:10] <mwe> arrick: sudo iptables -L does it list any rules?
[11:10] <VaporTrace> Sheesh howd I get in here
[11:10] <zF> PS, yes, that's correct
[11:10] <Gorth> does anyone have any idea how to convert an animated GIF to some video type?
[11:10] <ompaul> seawolf__, would you care to share what the problem with the channel is, so that someone with the skills and time can help you?
[11:10] <DBO> Frogzoo, you CAN install 1.5.0.2 directly
[11:10] <zF> PS, XP was installed first.
[11:11] <Frogzoo> DBO: shows what I know
[11:11] <arrick> then forward
[11:11] <arrick> then output
[11:11] <arrick> mwe^^
[11:11] <PS> zF: that should make fixing things simpler
[11:11] <mwe> arrick: that means no rules. it's not blocking
[11:11] <arrick> ok, what next?
[11:11] <DBO> Frogzoo, meh, its on the Mozilla site, just download the installer for i686 and away you go
[11:11] <mwe> arrick: but you can't ssh to the box?
[11:11] <arrick> nope
[11:12] <shoofle> AAAAARRRG *sob*
[11:12] <mwe> arrick: even using the ip?
[11:12] <arrick> do I need to be logged out on the box?
[11:12] <mwe> arrick: no
[11:12] <patrick52222> how do i log in with root
[11:12] <mwe> !tell patrick52222 about root
[11:12] <patrick52222> cheers
[11:12] <errpast-wl> Frogzoo: thanks for patience.  I'm not sure how to specify to get 1.5
[11:13] <ompaul> !ff1.5
[11:13] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:13] <PS> zF: you wanna post your c:\boot.ini
[11:13] <zF> PS, here's my boot.ini: http://pastebin.com/665873
[11:13] <errpast-wl> thx
[11:13] <PS> zf: sorry, thx
[11:13] <mwe> ! root =~ s/logging/login/
[11:13] <ubotu> mwe: i didn't have anything called ' root'
[11:13] <mwe> !root =~ s/logging/login/
[11:13] <ubotu> mwe: OK
[11:13] <bicky> I installed WoW on linux, but the resolution has to be changed to 800x600 before I start it, how should I do this ?
[11:14] <arrick> hey mwe I forgot the auto eth0 in the /etc/network/interfaces file
[11:14] <arrick> ouch, stupid mistake
[11:14] <mwe> heh
[11:16] <bicky> let me put it this way: how can I change my screen resolution with the commandline ?
[11:16] <mwe> bicky: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:16] <mwe> bicky: maybe back it up first
[11:18] <PS> zF: that looks ok too.  one more thing I can think of to look at, what does your partition table look like using fdisk?
[11:18] <schtinky> I'm setting up an ubuntu amd 64 server with 4 hard drives with software RAID... I've got a 106 MB partition and 400GB partition on each drive and a 2 GB swap partition on the first drive. Should any partition be marked as primary? Ubuntu won't go past the "finish partitioning and write changes" part
[11:18] <bicky> mwe: it just has to be 800x600 during the game. When I'm on ubuntu normally I want it to be 1600x1200
[11:19] <schtinky> what am i doing wrong?
[11:19] <zF> PS, something unsual came out
[11:19] <zF> I'll PM you it
[11:19] <picasso> does anyone know how to get a file (say, .m3u) to open with a specific command (say, "xmms -e") in firefox?
[11:19] <PS> zf: sorry?
[11:19] <zF> PS, something unusual came up and I PM'd you the output
[11:19] <maxbax> may i ask a question, or probably more accurately, a series of silly questions?
[11:19] <picaro> asl como estas
[11:19] <Edison> hi
[11:20] <Edison> how do i uninstall a program
[11:20] <Edison> ??
[11:20] <Edison> bien y tu??
[11:20] <bicky> go ahead maxbax :)
[11:20] <ompaul> !enter
[11:20] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[11:20] <polpak> Edison, depends on how you installed it
[11:20] <Edison> i install real player but now i dont want it
[11:21] <bicky> apt-get remove
[11:21] <simonpca> a+ , je quitte
[11:21] <maxbax> thanks, i installed this "ubuntu" thingmyjig onto my pentium 3 700mhz computer which is suspect is actually impaired functionally, is there a way for me to test whether it's working as well as it can or if it's broken?
[11:21] <mwe> bicky: yes. system->something in gnome I think. I'm using kde. make sure xorg.conf mentions the res you wanna use
[11:21] <surfdue_lappy> hello
[11:21] <arrick> hey mwe what is the syntax for reinstalling apache2? sudo aptitude reinstall apache2?
[11:21] <polpak> maxbax, what would lead you to suspect it was broken
[11:21] <shoofle> why does this network hate me so?
[11:21] <mwe> arrick: why do wanna do that?
[11:21] <sud0n1m> im looking for an easy to use, well supported distro for web hosting, is there any reason not to use ubuntu?
[11:21] <surfdue_lappy> i am trying to play an mpg in my firefox totem takes over but says dosnt have decoder, what do i need to do to make it play common video files wmv, asf, mpg, mov etc?
[11:22] <Edison> so what can i do??
[11:22] <maxbax> polbak it was running really slowly.
[11:22] <surfdue_lappy> im on 5.10
[11:22] <arrick> mwe, I changed soures.list and forgot to update, and I want the latest files
[11:22] <maxbax> on windows, so i assumed it was full of viruses and crap so i said, this is a sign from the gods to install "linux"
[11:22] <maxbax> but with ubuntu, it's sitll really slow
[11:22] <maxbax> the simplist things seem to require 100% cpu
[11:22] <bicky> mwe that's the problem, I only want to use the commandline
[11:22] <ompaul> sud0n1m, not that I am aware of
[11:23] <mwe> arrick: sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2 && sudo apt-get install apache2 to reinstall the config as well
[11:23] <zF> PS, did you see what I PMed you?
[11:23] <sud0n1m> is there a server version of ubuntu?
[11:23] <ompaul> sud0n1m, yes
[11:23] <arrick> ok thanks
[11:23] <bolrod> there is ?
[11:23] <Edison> so how can i uninstall real player?
[11:23] <bolrod> I thought its just the normal ubuntu install with the server option
[11:23] <sud0n1m> oh, here it is
[11:23] <sud0n1m> http://releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/5.10/
[11:23] <mwe> bicky: huh? I don't think you can run your games from the command line unless you're playing bsd-games or something
[11:23] <bolrod> :O
[11:23] <Frogzoo> maxbax: run top for starters & see where the cpu's going
[11:24] <NickGarvey> mwe: I tried suse 10.0, and my wireless works! it works! thanks a lot for your help, I learned a lot from what you said and that helped me make it work almost painlessly on suse, thank you again
[11:24] <mwe> bicky: you mean without X windows?
[11:24] <Frogzoo> maxbax: & how much memory do you have?
[11:24] <PS> zF: sorry no, i didn't see it but ain't used to this irc client so dunno what happened to it
[11:24] <maxbax> hey Frogzoo (great name by the way) how exactly would i do that
[11:24] <mwe> NickGarvey: ok
[11:24] <bicky> edison: apt-get remove realplayer
[11:24] <surfdue_lappy> i am trying to play an mpg in my firefox totem takes over but says dosnt have decoder, what do i need to do to make it play common video files wmv, asf, mpg, mov etc? ion ubuntu 5.10 can anyone please help?
[11:24] <shoofle> tears undoubtedly coming next!
[11:24] <zF> PS, I'll pastebin it agian
[11:24] <Frogzoo> maxbax: 'top'
[11:24] <mwe> NickGarvey: I'm sure we were almost there though
[11:24] <maxbax> Frogzoo i think i have 256
[11:24] <Edison> thanks bicky
[11:24] <bolrod> how many SWAP do you have?
[11:25] <NickGarvey> mwe: yeah.. but something wasn't clicking, so I figured I'd try suse which I liked anyway, and it works
[11:25] <mwe> NickGarvey: yeah. suse is pretty user friendly
[11:25] <skypa> no wonder, it's german engineering :p
[11:26] <Frogzoo> maxbax: & what does 'free' say mem/buffers (also, 700MHz is a littel on the light side)
[11:26] <Edison> if a dont have permission to change a folder, what can i do??
[11:26] <mwe> Edison: use sudo
[11:26] <Frogzoo> Edison: sudo chown me:me folder
[11:26] <dmitchell> was wondering if anyone could assist me with a cd drive issue...
[11:26] <mwe> Edison: normal users are not allowed to tamper with the system
[11:26] <bolrod> Frogzoo: 256MB with almost no swap is also not good
[11:26] <m_tadeu> good night everyone...after installing kubuntu5.1 amd64 my pcmcia modem don't seem to work
[11:27] <zF> http://pastebin.com/665904
[11:27] <surfdue_lappy> anyone guys?
[11:27] <zF> PS, that's the output of my fdisk
[11:27] <m_tadeu> does anyone know if there is a problem with the pcmcia or serial driver in kernel 2.6.12?
[11:27] <Frogzoo> bolrod: agreed
[11:27] <surfdue_lappy> mozilla firefox i need mpeg decoders?
[11:27] <Edison> but i try mv
[11:27] <Edison> sudo mv
[11:27] <Edison> and still didnt let me change it
[11:27] <mwe> !tell surfdue_lappy about w32codecs
[11:27] <Edison> so can i use this:  sudo chown me:me folder
[11:27] <bicky> edison: sudo su makes you superuser ;)
[11:27] <maxbax> interestinly my os seems to have disappered i know have a lovely blank screen. i think this computer is having a laugh at my expsense.
[11:27] <Frogzoo> Edison: but replace 'me' with your user name
[11:27] <mwe> Edison: what folder?
[11:28] <sud0n1m> I have to install PHP with mssql support - is this difficult in Ubuntu?
[11:28] <bicky> mwe got my message ?
[11:28] <mwe> Edison: don't change owner of system files and folders please
[11:28] <Edison> i have a game and i try to update a file in a folder but it says that i dont have permission to write the file
[11:28] <cyphase> would you guys recommend EasyUbuntu
[11:29] <cyphase> i've always done the stuff it does by hand..
[11:29] <bicky> edison: sudo chmod 777 FOLDERNAME
[11:29] <mwe> bicky: I'm not sure what you want
[11:29] <Frogzoo> Edison: mebbe: chmod +w file
[11:29] <Edison> i try to save the link from internet to the folder bit couldnt either
[11:29] <mwe> Edison: what folder?
[11:30] <PS> zF: which bit did you think was weird?
[11:30] <Edison> not folder, file. sorry
[11:30] <zF> The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 7296.
[11:30] <zF> There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
[11:30] <zF> and could in certain setups cause problems with:
[11:30] <zF> 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
[11:30] <zF> 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
[11:30] <zF>    (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
[11:30] <schtinky> when do you need a "primary" partition?
[11:30] <zF> PS, that part.
[11:30] <acid-trip> does unbuntu run nicely with kde?
[11:30] <Edison> i have to copy this file from internet to the games folder but i dont have permission to write the games folder
[11:31] <ompaul> zF, use pastebin
[11:31] <sud0n1m> hmmm... tonyyarusso, the M in my LAMP stands for MSSQL, not MYSQL
[11:31] <dmitchell> are there any other support channels?
[11:31] <Frogzoo> !tell edison about permissions
[11:31] <PS> zF: no, that's quite normal, just a historic thing
[11:31] <maxbax> will i tell you what 'free' returned?
[11:31] <Edison> so i try using sudo
[11:31] <tonyyarusso> sud0n1m: Ohp, sorry.  Don't know then.
[11:31] <Edison> but didnt know how to
[11:31] <mwe> acid-trip: kde runs fine in ubuntu
[11:31] <Frogzoo> Edison: read the pm from ubotu - everything you need to know about how unix handles file permissions
[11:31] <bicky> edison: try 'sudo wget URL'
[11:32] <bicky> change URL with the url of the file
[11:32] <|lostbyte|> What steps does one take to use the internet from a gatway ?
[11:32] <mwe> Edison: what folder?
[11:32] <Edison> thanks everyone
[11:32] <|lostbyte|> GAtway : is set up to do nat..
[11:32] <maxbax> free 255972, used 1844584, swap total 761848
[11:32] <PS> zF: it's hard to be 100% sure, but given that your problems started when you powered down windows, and given that grub and boot.ini look ok, i reckon it might just be that your windows partition is screwed.
[11:32] <arrick> anyone, is the stripped down version of gnome called gnome-desktop?
[11:33] <PS> zF: if you wanted to you could reinstall grub tho
[11:33] <skypa> |lostbyte|, what does "route -n" say?
[11:33] <zF> PS, why would it just get screwed...
[11:33] <skypa> on the gateway
[11:33] <dmitchell> "mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist" <--could use some help on a CD-ROM not working. :)
[11:33] <arrick> mwe, _jason nickrud ^^
[11:33] <tonyyarusso> arrick: No, gnome-core.
[11:33] <arrick> thanks tonyyarusso forgot about you there
[11:33] <arrick> thanks
[11:33] <PS> zF: possibly because it was powered down, tho that does happen rarely.  obviously something's gone wrong tho
[11:34] <skypa> dmitchell, what does "ls -lha /dev/cdrom" say?
[11:34] <arrick> hey tonyyarusso thats the desktop without the frills right?
[11:34] <arrick> or is that server?
[11:34] <dmitchell> no such file or directory
[11:34] <PS> zF: as i say, you can try reinstalling grub (which i don't know how to do off the top of my head sorry), or you can try booting off the XP cd and using the Microsoft Recovery Console option
[11:34] <bicky> mwe: you got a message :P
[11:34] <tonyyarusso> arrick: apt-cache calls it "The GNOME Desktop Environment -- essential components"
[11:34] <Marineboy> is freebsd easy to use?
[11:34] <LinuxHelp> Everyone help The-Moon  -kthx
[11:35] <arrick> tonyyarusso, I want the desktop without all the extra games and crap
[11:35] <arrick> ok thanks
[11:35] <The-Moon> Hey everyone, could someone link me to a page in the Ubuntu wiki, which explains the basic Terminal commands i should/need to know
[11:35] <maxbax> so i can't figure out definitively if my system is just too crap to run ubuntu or there is actually an issue with a piece of hardware.
[11:35] <skypa> does "dmesg | grep hd" show anything cdrom-ish?
[11:35] <The-Moon> I cannot find anything
[11:35] <dmitchell> skypa: says "no such file or directory"
[11:35] <The-Moon> not even a wiki section...
[11:35] <PS> zF: when i say 'reinstall grub' i mean get it to recreate the MBR (master boot record) as opposed to resinstalling the ubuntu package
[11:35] <Frogzoo> !tell The-Moon about docs
[11:35] <Frogzoo> The-Moon: read the pm from the bot
[11:35] <mwe> bicky: check yours
[11:37] <PS> zF: you could have a look at http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Invoking-grub_002dinstall
[11:37] <zF> PS, okay. A friend of mine recommedn reinstalling grub
[11:37] <zF> PS, I'll screw with the windows CD and see if itcould boot it
[11:37] <Frogzoo> maxbax: 700MHz/256Meg is a little light, but still should be usable
[11:37] <zF> Be back.
[11:37] <PS> zF: ok, sorry i couldn't be more help
[11:37] <dmitchell> skypa: nope.  which is odd.
[11:37] <Frogzoo> maxbax: did you run top to see what was using all the cpu?
[11:38] <cyphase> Would you guys recommend using EasyUbuntu?
[11:38] <maxbax> Frogzoo
[11:38] <maxbax> i ran top
[11:38] <dmitchell> skypa:  was working fine a few days ago, then intermittent.  now, nothing.
[11:38] <maxbax> it's a rather dynamic list
[11:38] <tonyyarusso> cyphase: Personally, I'm still debating it for my next install and recommendations.  I've heard many good things, but I got by reading docs the first time around, so I'm not sure.
[11:38] <Frogzoo> maxbax: well, what did it say? how much %cpu was the process at the top?
[11:39] <The-Moon> (17:35:47) Frogzoo: The-Moon: read the pm from the bot < i didnt get any pms
[11:39] <zF> PS, no problem, I understand this isn't an easy fix.
[11:39] <zF> PS, thanks though
[11:39] <PS> zF: np, good luck
[11:39] <maxbax> Frogzoo every so often xorg pops to the top at 4.6%
[11:40] <Frogzoo> The-Moon: please register with nickserv, (/msg nickserv help) so in the future the bot can send you pms, but here it is anyway
[11:40] <Frogzoo> !docs
[11:40] <ubotu> from memory, docs is an index of documentation on the Ubuntu Wiki - you can find it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[11:40] <The-Moon> oh yeah
[11:40] <The-Moon> ive been here
[11:40] <Frogzoo> maxbax: which is nothing, so cpu's not an issue, the next is memory, what does 'free' say?
[11:40] <The-Moon> where dose it explain terminal commands at?
[11:41] <Frogzoo> The-Moon: also try 'man intro'
[11:41] <Kaya_> The-Moon > try googling "Linux bash commands" or something similiar
[11:41] <The-Moon> w00t found it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[11:41] <The-Moon> ok ill be back, thanks for the help
[11:42] <bicky> terminator
[11:42] <maxbax> Frogzoo memory ~70000k free, swap 7489289k free.
[11:42] <maxbax> actualy
[11:42] <mwe> bicky: read the query
[11:43] <maxbax> i probably should mention i'm in "safety mode"
[11:43] <Frogzoo> maxbax: 7gig swapfile? totally overkill & possibly a problem
[11:44] <maxbax> frogzoo that must be a typo.
[11:44] <Frogzoo> maxbax: swapon -s
[11:44] <shoofle_> aaahhh.... the autodetect for the search domain is stupid.  it detected the domain correctly plus one period at the end.
[11:44] <arrick> PS, zF should have installed windows first then ubuntu
[11:45] <shoofle_> and since that's most of the problem i've had (other than the obvious interface troubles) i'm outta here!
[11:45] <zF> arrick, I did.
[11:45] <arrick> and it didnt install
[11:45] <arrick> ?
[11:45] <zF> arrick, no, windows just stopped working randomly
[11:45] <arrick> zF, did it ask you if you would like to install the grub on the mbr?
[11:45] <Marineboy> How do I mount a partition?
[11:45] <Marineboy> so I can download to it.
[11:45] <arrick> !mount
[11:46] <ubotu> I heard mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[11:46] <eytyxios> hello
[11:46] <maxbax> ok Frogzoo i'll just tell you 748052 is the swap free and 11528 is the mem free
[11:46] <Jowi> is there a way to disable the blankscreen (i'm not running xscreensaver) when playing a dvd? is it connected to acpi?
[11:46] <zF> arrick, everything was workign perfectly then windows just randomly stopped booting
[11:46] <arrick> zF, , you probably got a virus on your win partition
[11:46] <arrick> do you own a copy of registry mechanic?
[11:46] <mwe> zF: if you can boot the windows cd you can boot to recoverty console and type fixmbr and fixboot to make windows boot. that will overwrite grub though, but it can be installed again
[11:46] <zF> arrick, lol, I don't think so. ;)
[11:47] <eytyxios> can anyone tell me if its possible to edit the html source using openoffice writer and mozilla or other brownser?
[11:47] <Frogzoo> maxbax: I'd expect switching between desktops & opening apps to be a little sluggish, but fine otherwise
[11:47] <zF> mwe, that sounds about what I was going to do.
[11:47] <arrick> evening Frogzoo
[11:47] <Mathman> eytyxios: certainly should be.  there are plenty of html editors though.
[11:47] <Frogzoo> arrick: I'm just on my way out, how you doing?
[11:48] <Mathman> eytyxios: you're wanting a wysiwyg editor I take it though?
[11:48] <arrick> Frogzoo, fine how about you
[11:48] <Frogzoo> arrick: good good - fixed sound on WoW which was fun
[11:48] <OffHand> nvu is a great html editor imo
[11:48] <arrick> haha
[11:49] <arrick> wtg Frogzoo havea great day
[11:49] <eytyxios> i just want a brownser that provides me such a thing directly...
[11:49] <eytyxios> any thought?
[11:49] <Frogzoo> arrick: cool arrick , you too
[11:49] <Mathman> eytyxios: mozilla
[11:49] <DBO> Frogzoo, did you by chance document what you did?
[11:49] <mwe> vim is a great html editor ;)
[11:49] <maxbax> Frogzoo so what would recommend? grin and bear it? downsize this ubuntu or install a "liter" version of "linux"?
[11:49] <eytyxios> thx i do have it
[11:49] <Mathman> eytyxios: konqueror perhaps?
[11:49] <gymsmoke> anyone know how i can remove everything from a server install except the base + openssh-server?
[11:50] <eytyxios> but the edit is on something like vi
[11:50] <arrick> hey tonyyarusso should the core take longer to load than a deault?
[11:50] <eytyxios> i need a graphik interface like openoffice or something
[11:50] <eytyxios> moving a foto for example
[11:50] <FlannelKing> eytyxios: nvu is wysiwyg
[11:50] <OffHand> I get this error message if I want to install something in the synaptic.... dpkg: syntax error: unknown group 'fuse' in statusoverride file  -  how can  I fix this?
[11:51] <tonyyarusso> arrick: I wouldn't think so...  Maybe the first time though.  See if it does the same thing after logging in fully, out, and back in again.
[11:51] <Sharcho> I intend to install Ubuntu Server 6.06 when it will come out. Currently my VPS provider offers me to preinstall either Ubuntu 5.04 or Debian Sarge. Which one will provide a smoother dist-upgrade process?
[11:51] <Mathman> gymsmoke: start removing stuff.  but if something else depends on the stuff you're trying to remove then you probably shouldn't remove it.
[11:51] <arrick> I use web easy 6pro myself for html creation and editing
[11:51] <tonyyarusso> Sharcho: Ubuntu 5.04, but you will need to first upgrade it to 5.10, then 6.06.
[11:51] <maxbax> on a side not should ubuntu install by defauly with a mp3 decoder?
[11:51] <eytyxios> checking
[11:52] <mwe> OffHand: sounds odd. when did it start saying that?
[11:52] <dmitchell> anyone else have any clues as to why my CD drive is suddenly unrecognized?
[11:52] <arrick> ok, I installed gnome-core, how do I start the gui? Startx does not work
[11:52] <arrick> tonyyarusso, ^^
[11:52] <gymsmoke> Mathman: yeah, there's the 'kill and hope' method, but i found through reading man pages on dpkg, dpkg-deb, that there is a deb binary package called base-install in apt/cache ...
[11:52] <DBO> arrick, "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[11:52] <eytyxios> the point is that i do have some htmls and i need to correct them and save them as i brownse to them
[11:53] <tonyyarusso> arrick: First off, did you have Gnome with all of the goodies to start with, or are you coming from KDE?
[11:53] <mwe> gnome-core installs gdm?
[11:53] <OffHand> mwe, that is descriped here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161731
[11:53] <mwe> I think not
[11:53] <eytyxios> i was using ie with the integration feature of openoffice
[11:53] <tonyyarusso> arrick: And define "does not work".
[11:53] <gymsmoke> Mathman:it seems that package contains the initial installation of the base server
[11:53] <Sharcho> tonyyarusso, aren't there any significant differences between the server editon and the normal edition? The 5.04 didn't have a server edition.
[11:53] <arrick> tonyyarusso, i only had the ubuntu server on the box, wanted the gui without adds
[11:53] <dcoy> i need help pls
[11:53] <tonyyarusso> mwe: No, it doesnt.
[11:53] <simonpca> plop
[11:53] <FlannelKing> Sharcho: same packages, just different initial installed packages.
[11:53] <gymsmoke> Sharcho: server is Ubuntu less the desktop setup
[11:53] <dcoy> i am new 2 ubuntu
[11:54] <arrick> tonyyarusso, startxthrew errors, will try DBO's suggestion
[11:54] <phewl> :)
[11:54] <Rug> Howdy all
[11:54] <FlannelKing> Sharcho: it's easy to convert one into the other, just like kubuntu/ubuntu, etc.
[11:54] <dcoy> i just installed ubuntu 5.10, after installation it asked me  to remove any cd as the system was going to reboot. the system  restarted, grub worked fine, then came the ubuntu screen and  below that the processes, starting from 'loading modules'. but  when it came to 'loading hotplug subsystem' it stuck, it  remained there for around 1/2 an hour and then i restarted the  system. i tried again but it stuck at the same point. why is  this happening. please help.  :c
[11:54] <dcoy> my system
[11:54] <dcoy> p4 2.4, 512 ram, agp geforce 6200, asrock 845 chipset  motherboard
[11:54] <DBO> mmm, if startx doesnt work, mine probably wont either... teach me to read...
[11:54] <arrick> DBO, doesnt work
[11:54] <Rug> dcoy: do you have any usb-storage devices installed?
[11:54] <DBO> dcoy, do you have a removable hard drive?
[11:55] <eytyxios> i mean that i need a brownser or aplugin for mozilla the places a button on the brownser that gives me an output to openoffice (for example)...mostly text anf phots
[11:55] <tonyyarusso> Sharcho: Ooh.  I forgot about that.  Still though, the packages will be compatible, and you can remove all the parts you don't need.  So, it will be slightly more hassle for you than non-server people, but still wiser to use Ubuntu to start than Debian.
[11:55] <Rug> DBO: Beat ya!
[11:55] <eytyxios> ant=and
[11:55] <DBO> Rug!  Darn you! =P
[11:55] <tonyyarusso> arrick: What kind of errors?
[11:55] <mwe> OffHand: I don't know why it started doing that. however backup /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride then remove the entry from the file and try again is my advice
[11:55] <dmitchell> are there any other support channels for ubuntu on irc?
[11:55] <phewl> uh
[11:55] <FlannelKing> dmitchell: lots!
[11:55] <dcoy> hello
[11:55] <mzuverink> Does anyone know if there are any debs for gnome 2.14 for breezy?  I recently attempted to upgrade to dapper and had horrific results.  However I would like gnome 2.14...
[11:55] <OffHand> cheers mwe
[11:55] <arrick> errno 111
[11:55] <arrick> and 13
[11:55] <mwe> arrick: what does startx say, that?
[11:55] <arrick> hang on will paste
[11:56] <tonyyarusso> dmb: Tons of them.  There's a wiki page listing them, let me find the address.
[11:56] <mwe> errno ...
[11:56] <Rug> Hiya arrick
[11:56] <dmitchell> FlannelKing:  would you mind directing me to one where I can get my question answered?  :)
[11:56] <FlannelKing> dmitchell: what are your questions about?
[11:56] <dcoy> i just installed ubuntu 5.10, after installation it asked me  to remove any cd as the system was going to reboot. the system  restarted, grub worked fine, then came the ubuntu screen and  below that the processes, starting from 'loading modules'. but  when it came to 'loading hotplug subsystem' it stuck, it  remained there for around 1/2 an hour and then i restarted the  system. i tried again but it stuck at the same point. why is  this happening. please help.  :c
[11:56] <dcoy> my system
[11:56] <dcoy> p4 2.4, 512 ram, agp geforce 6200, asrock 845 chipset  motherboard
[11:56] <dmitchell> my CD-ROM drive is no longer recognized.  I'm trying to figure out why.
[11:56] <Rug> dcoy: I already answered that
[11:57] <tonyyarusso> dmitchell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
[11:57] <graft> dmitchell: new hairdo?
[11:57] <arrick> mwe, DBO, tonyyarusso http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12465
[11:57] <FlannelKing> dmitchell: that'd be here, most likely.
[11:57] <dcoy> no usb
[11:57] <dcoy> or additional hdd
[11:57] <dmitchell> when I try to mount it by hand, I get:  "mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist"
[11:57] <graft> dmitchell: is it enabled in the BIOS?
[11:57] <dcoy> my internet is via usb though
[11:57] <dcoy> dsl
[11:57] <tonyyarusso> arrick: Ah, gotcha.
[11:57] <Rug> Any memory sticks?  CF readers?  etc...
[11:57] <dcoy> nope
[11:57] <dmitchell> and I know it's not a hardware problem...I'm on an IBM G40, and I swapped hard drives with an identical machine.  Same error.
[11:58] <arrick> heres the rest of it
[11:58] <arrick> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12466
[11:58] <arrick> sorry about double post
[11:58] <dmitchell> it's enabled in the BIOS.  Was working great a few days ago.  Now, nothing.
[11:58] <mwe> arrick: huh
[11:58] <Talldave2002> i had problems with wine before and they are now sorted, but i now have problems with ie4linux
[11:58] <arrick> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12466 mwe, tonyyarusso DBO
[11:58] <mwe> arrick: sounds like a broken startx
[11:58] <dcoy> rug....
[11:58] <graft> dmitchell: um. so what'd you do in the interim?
[11:58] <OffHand> mwe should I try to remove this line: root fuse 4754 /usr/bin/fusermount   ??
[11:58] <Rug> dcoy: I am thinking
[11:58] <tonyyarusso> arrick: One second, I think I know your problem.
[11:58] <dcoy> ok
[11:58] <dmitchell> graft:  pardon?
[11:59] <mwe> arrick: don't sudo startx
[11:59] <graft> dmitchell: between when it was working and when it stopped working, what'd you do that might have broken it?
[11:59] <mwe> arrick: just startx
[11:59] <mwe> arrick: as user
[11:59] <arrick> same error mwe
[11:59] <ENE|Toxic> When installing the source of X11R7.0, the ./configure script complains about lbxutil .. I'm a little confused, I didn't find any way to install it ? I tried google it, but I can't find any source-file/whatever to install.
[11:59] <Nukeador> i have just installed compiz and compiz-gnome, how can i enable the efects now?
[11:59] <tonyyarusso> arrick: You need to install xserver-xorg too, and startx as user.
[11:59] <dmitchell> graft:  the only thing I've done is got my Wacom tablet up and running.  Which worked great until the next time I fired up the laptop.
[11:59] <mwe> arrick: echo 'gnome-session' > ~/.xinitrc then try again