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benkong2hello all, I am on Dapper flight 5 and my firefox has the check for updates button grayed out. Anyone know why?12:09
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crimsunbenkong2: that's the way it's compiled.12:10
benkong2crimsun: ok thanks, how does one get 1.5.02 then or is that not possible?12:11
crimsuninstall it in ~, /opt, or wait for it to go into Dapper.12:11
benkong2crimsun: ok thanks I'll wait :P12:11
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me2win!ping12:17
ubotupong12:17
xbox_skykmail: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkmailprivate.so: undefined symbol: _ZN4KPIM8Identity4nullE12:17
xbox_skyanyone???? what should I do?12:17
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sola1I'm trying to install kubuntu-desktop and I'v completed $sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, but the only thing that's changed is the login-screen... the desktop is still GNOME....12:19
sola1can any1 help me fix it?12:19
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mvvsola1: you have to choose in the login screen by clicking on the left icon12:20
sola1the left icon?12:20
sola1the login screen was KDE, but the desktop is still gnome...12:21
mvvyeah, there's a pulldown menu where you can choose12:21
sola1and that changes the desktop?12:21
mvvyes12:21
sola1thanks... I'll give it a try;)12:21
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sola1mvv: thx man:)12:24
mvvnp12:24
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fjellrev1How can I asign a command to a specific button?or even better,a mouse button12:28
sola1I'm trying to clean ut the menus by do what this guide [http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/13/ubuntu-to-kubuntu-keeping-the-menus-clean/#547]  says, but I get a syntax error on 'done'...12:28
PetecakesWhat's that command again that wipes your hard drive in five characters?12:31
PetecakesIt's like rm -rs / or something.12:31
Petecakes</n00b>12:32
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solanany1?12:33
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crimsunsolan: which command did you type?12:35
solancan any1 help me clean up my menus? i'v got both kde and gnome desktop installed and I want to only show the programs that are connected with the desktop in it's menu.. I'm trying to use the [http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/13/ubuntu-to-kubuntu-keeping-the-menus-clean/#547]  guide, but I get a syntax error...12:35
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solancrimsun: I tried to creat the clener.sh script, and I got the syntax error when I typed done...12:39
solan*cleaner.sh12:39
captainbraillewhat command should I use instead of make?12:39
crimsunsolan: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/66606212:41
crimsunsolan: that's what you'd paste at the prompt12:41
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solancrimsun: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/66606812:43
captainbraillehow do I run a script?12:43
crimsunsolan: 1) it's all _one_ line; 2) do not paste the hash mark12:44
solancrimsun: what?12:44
crimsunthe command you just showed me has two errors. I just stated them.12:45
solancrimsun: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/66607612:46
crimsundude, don't paste the \12:46
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solancrimsun: aaah.... I'll try that;)12:47
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mvvis it normal when you've partitioned a 300GB disk in ext3 that the used space already is 14.10GB? (no files on disk)12:48
solancrimsun: noting happens....12:49
crimsunsolan: does it give you a prompt back?12:50
crimsunas in the '#'12:50
solannope...12:50
crimsunwhat does it do?12:50
solancrimsun: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/666084     and nothing else happens...12:50
crimsunso what happens when you press enter?12:51
solancrimsun: nothing...12:52
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solanit just hopps down a line...12:52
crimsundude, you made another typo12:52
solando-oh!12:52
crimsunthe space between the = and the $i is _critical_12:52
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StarOceanhmm12:52
StarOceanliveCD doesn't really work for me12:53
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solancrimsun: when I corrected the typo, it doesn't prompt anything back...12:55
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crimsunsolan: does it do the same thing as before?12:56
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solannope... it just gives the command line back....12:58
crimsunjust the hash mark?12:58
crimsun'#'12:58
solanjupp...12:58
crimsungood, that's what it's supposed to do.12:59
solanmkay.. do I have to log in again for it to work?12:59
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solanI'll try and reboot;)01:01
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gnutonhi01:06
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carloshello.....can omeone tell me how to edit the resolution of my kde display?? it was working fine in native resolution of 1024x768, but now its booting in 800x600 and thats just ugly...cant find the out how to change it back01:08
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carlosanyone know how to edit the display resolution in KDE?01:13
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mvvcarlos: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:14
mvvnot even one minute :(01:14
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OdyXHey.01:16
OdyXHow is it to rebuild Kde's file associations ?01:16
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mvv_zZzOdyX: kcontrol - KDE-components - file associations01:20
OdyXmvv_zZz: Thanks... my solution is "kbuildsycoca"01:20
OdyX:D01:20
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gnutonhi01:26
slow-motionn801:28
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webgisdev01:31
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stodgeWhat engine do you use with Amarok?01:40
stodgeI have no sound coming from Amarok - any suggestions?01:41
stodgeKubuntu Breezy01:41
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thompahave you checked kmixer first01:43
stodgeYes01:43
thompa!alsa01:44
ubotuwell, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix01:44
thompago to amarok settings first01:44
thompasettings: configure Amarok01:44
thompathere is Engine01:45
thompatry changing "Output Plug in"01:45
stodgeIve tried alsa, oss, esd, arts, jack01:46
stodgealsa and oss give errors01:46
thompatype alsaconfig01:46
stodge /dev/dsp already in use01:46
stodgeI dont have alsaconfig installed01:47
thompastodge: you can install alsa-tools from synaptic01:48
stodgealsa-utils?01:48
crimsunwe currently don't ship alsaconf in alsa-utils01:48
gnutonHi guy! anyone can tell me why my kubuntu box after a dist-upgrade (dapper) have a dns lookup too slow?01:48
crimsunstodge: configure amarok's gstreamer engine to use alsasink01:48
stodgestill no sound even with alsasink01:49
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crimsunstodge: do you get any sound at all?01:49
stodgedoesnt look like it01:49
crimsunstodge: pastebin ``lspci -v && lspci -nv && cat /proc/asound/cards && tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat && amixer -c0''01:50
thompaare you sure front sound is up in kmixer?01:50
thompafor me pc speaker does nothing01:50
stodgeFront sound is up in kmixer01:51
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stodgehttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/66619601:51
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stodgeDont know what I did but it's working01:55
stodgeIn kmixer, the switches tab, I enabled is2 mixer out..01:55
stodgeOh I see01:55
stodgeSPDIF Out was selected01:55
djk_crimsun: is it possible to disable the oom-killer?01:56
stodgeAnyway thanks for your help01:57
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crimsundjk_: on the fly? not with our kernel, no01:58
crimsunmost kernels have to be compiled without the oom killer01:58
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djk_mmh. it's rather annoying.02:00
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biquillohi, I'm looking for a easy app to rip dvds, any suggestion?02:03
jindiazhey, just a quick one, whats the command for getting into the log files for konversation via konquerer again?02:03
djk_biquillo: dvd::rip, acidrip...02:06
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biquilloI tried dvd::rip in the second tab I got "STDIN player command: xine not found : NOT Ok"02:07
biquillobut I have xine player installed02:07
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djk_biquillo: that's not important, besides, you can use mplayer in that tab iirc.02:12
biquillook, thx02:12
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os2mac!dapper02:26
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)02:26
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mischkoWhere to get firefox latest from repository (or 1.5.0.1)?02:45
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CheeseBurgerManIt's only available in dapper - you have to download it from mozilla.com02:46
CheeseBurgerMan!firefox1.502:46
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion02:46
mischkoCheeseBurgerMan, Thanks.02:47
CheeseBurgerManNP02:47
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ZoohouseQuick question. I just bought a 19'' wide screen LCD monitor. I go to Sys Settings, Display and 1280 x 1024. How do I change the ress it can be bigger then 1280 x 1024 and for wide screen?02:52
thompanot sure to use maildir or mbox? which is better for moving files?02:52
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mischko!thunderbird02:52
ubotuI heard thunderbird is a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6042702:52
thompaZoohouse: edit xorg.conf02:52
Zoohousethompa, no other way?02:52
Zoohouseno k tool or anything?02:52
thompais there something in settings dont know02:53
robotgeekthompa: mbox is easy to move (all mail is in one file), but chance of corrutpion is greater. i prefer maildr, so i can read mail using mutt and kmail simultaneosuly02:53
robotgeekZoohouse, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:53
thompaif its nvidia i use nvidia settings gui02:53
Zoohousethompa, thats true, let me try that brb02:53
Zoohousethompa, my display device shows up as a crt02:54
thompado what robotgeek said02:55
mischko!thunderbird1.502:55
ubotuhmm... thunderbird1.5 is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThunderbirdNewVersion02:55
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thompaZoohouse: thanks ill use maildir then, i think i had trouble with mbox transfer02:57
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thompai have one cross-distro problem: when i type something it jumps and if im not looking my sentences are jumbled.02:57
thompaits very annoying, and i have to retype everything02:58
CheeseBurgerManthompa: Are you using a touchpad by any chance?02:58
mischkowhat's the root password on a kubuntu install? It didn't ask for one during the install that I recall but it won't let me do root.02:58
thompayes, but im not touching it02:58
robotgeekubotu: tell mischko about root02:58
mischkorobotgeek, thanks.02:59
CheeseBurgerManthompa: It's very sensitive about being tapped for clicking, disable it if you cant.02:59
CheeseBurgerMancan*02:59
thompaCheeseBurgerMan: can the keyboard typing be affected by that?03:00
thompaill try disable, see if helps,03:00
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ExcaliberHello.03:03
Excaliberdeso anyone know about kafeine?03:03
Excaliberkaffeine03:03
Excaliberdoes*03:04
Hobbsee_away!+ask03:04
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.03:04
ExcaliberHello hobbsee03:04
Hobbsee_awayhey...03:05
Hobbsee_awayi'm not really here..03:05
Excaliberlol03:05
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Excaliberdo you know how to play .mp3 files on kubuntu?03:05
robotgeekExcaliber, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:05
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djk_does the [Ku|U] ubuntu live-cd come with gparted or qtparted or just parted?03:10
robotgeekdjk_: i think it comes with qtparted03:11
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_abbenormalhello all03:12
_abbenormalis there a problem with the new dapper cd not booting03:12
_abbenormald/led iso burnt with k3b as a iso03:13
djk_robotgeek: thanks. would you know how long it approximately takes to resize an ext3 (20->18) && swap (1->3) ?03:13
robotgeekdjk_: sorry, havent used the resize feature ever03:13
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_abbenormaldepends on how big the drives are03:14
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djk_neither have i.03:14
_abbenormalon smaller partions it only takes a few minutes03:15
CheeseBurgerManthompa: Sorry, I had to leave on very short notice. But yes, the keyboard can be effected depending on where your cursor is.03:15
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_abbenormalis there a place i can get a new release ie daily for dapper 6.0603:16
StarOceanErm... When I try to use kubuntu's LiveCD, it always freezes at "Checking battery state..."03:17
crimsun_abbenormal: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/03:17
StarOceanIs there anyway for me to fix it/bypass it?03:17
_abbenormalthanks ill look03:18
robotgeekStarOcean: there might be a acpi=off option, not sure how to pass it03:18
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StarOceanWould I face the same problem if I install kubuntu instead of using the LiveCD?03:18
_abbenormalthanks getting it03:19
CheeseBurgerManStarOcean: I'd imagine03:20
StarOceanthanks03:21
_abbenormalcrimsun, is that ubuntu or kubuntu03:23
crimsunthe former03:25
_abbenormalok cool03:25
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ferrouswheelhi all03:33
_abbenormalhey03:33
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Hobbsee_abbenormal: that'd be uubntu03:34
ferrouswheelbeen ages since i've used IRC - campus proxy doesn't allow IRC traffic :(03:35
Hobbseeferrouswheel: ouch.  ours does - it's very nice!03:35
ferrouswheelHobbsee: lucky ;P03:35
_abbenormalya i know but i found the kubuntu one so its all good03:35
Hobbsee_abbenormal: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/03:36
Hobbseeah ok03:36
_abbenormalya im a player so once i got a little info i can find stuff from there most of the time03:36
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ferrouswheeldo kubuntu people tend to use Konversation? Any one gone from xchat to Konversation before?03:36
_abbenormali did once03:37
CheeseBurgerManferrouswheel: I don't really like X-Chat much, so yes, I use Konversation. :)03:37
_abbenormalit wasnt fun03:37
ferrouswheelheh03:37
_abbenormalhad some of the servers kline me for using it03:37
Hobbseeferrouswheel: i use konversation03:37
ferrouswheelI liked xchat, but for no particular reason, so i'm giving Konversation a go :)03:37
_abbenormalit is a nice setup03:39
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ferrouswheelanyway to get transparency in the Konversation chat window? (i know it is completely unnecesary, but still..)03:39
_abbenormali guess old habits are hard to get out of03:39
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dipnlikhi all. does anyone recommend a podcast receiver other than amarok?03:40
CheeseBurgerManCastPodder03:41
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thompais koffice 1.5 out of beta?03:41
CheeseBurgerManYes03:41
introverse!xgl03:42
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/03:42
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thompaif i use xgl can i simply disable it in case of problems or is there no way back?03:42
thompa!koffice03:43
ubotuKOffice is a free, integrated office suite for KDE. Included is word processing, spreadsheet, flowcharting, image manipulation applications and many more. See http://koffice.kde.org03:43
thompawhat isnt koffice 1.5 in the repos already if its stable?03:44
thompaor even on dapper03:44
thompano matter ill add it03:45
dipnlikCheeseBurgerMan: will try it, thanks :)03:45
CheeseBurgerManthompa: there are repos for it. :P03:45
CheeseBurgerManthompa: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-15.php03:45
thompathanks found it03:46
CheeseBurgerMandipnlik: It's like Juice/iPodder03:46
thomparight at top,03:46
CheeseBurgerManYep. :P03:46
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Hobbseethompa: it's applying to be...03:47
thompaok03:48
thompai need only one of the repos on the list right?03:49
thompa2 are down anyway03:49
CheeseBurgerManYou only need one.03:50
thompaok well only first one works anyway03:52
thompai really like koffice, it seems simple for what i do, dont know about pdf, but theres OOo03:52
dipnlikCheeseBurgerMan: castpodder isnotavailabel on my adept =\ is it Qt or gtk?03:53
CheeseBurgerMangtk03:53
CheeseBurgerManiPodder is in the repos, you can install that03:53
CheeseBurgerManIt'll get you all the dependencies installed anyway. :P03:53
dipnlikCheeseBurgerMan: why do you prefer castpodder to ipodder?03:54
CheeseBurgerManIt's newer03:54
thompait seems you have to install koffice as seperate compnents or there are dpend issues03:54
CheeseBurgerManthompa: Dunno, I just installed everything. :P03:55
thompai guess i can apt force it03:55
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mischko!xine03:58
ubotumischko: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:58
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mischkoWhat's the best software to view DVD's?03:59
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Hobbseemischko: kaffiene works pretty well04:01
tarmathI use kaffeine too04:03
tarmathI dont like totem nor mplayer much04:04
tarmaththey've always been buggy for me04:04
Nomad411I sthere a unix2dos command in Kubuntu ?04:05
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LeeJunFanI use xine for most of my video playing.04:05
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mischkoI'm finding I need to install some extras from universe/multiverse to get DVD working better. We'll see.04:08
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produktI need help!04:11
CheeseBurgerManGreat.04:11
CheeseBurgerManCare to elaborate?04:11
produktI'm on the live cd right now, I got kubuntu to install, but it hangs when I try to boot it up04:11
LeeJunFanprodukt: here it is - just fill in the blank ____________________.04:11
CheeseBurgerManprodukt: OK, where does it hang?04:11
LeeJunFanprodukt: try hitting alt-Fn keys until you see one which might say which package or function it's messing up on.04:12
produktright at the start of booting into kubuntu ... saving default or something then says boot right after04:12
LeeJunFanI think ctrl-alt-f2 is the one you want.04:12
produktI'll try that out04:12
LeeJunFanoh wait, nevermind.04:12
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LeeJunFanI was thinking of during install not after.04:13
produktoh04:13
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LeeJunFanI'm not sure what's it's doing at saving default, if you get the exact text it can probably be grepped in the initscripts to find out what's going on right after it prints that.04:13
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dipnlikis there a way to make gtk apps put their menus on top, mac os-style, like the qt apps?04:14
LeeJunFanThat's why I hate splash screens they hide too much, what about if you try booting the recovery option when it asks what you want to boot into?04:14
produktI tried recovery also... both options just hang at the word boot04:15
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CheeseBurgerManLeeJunFan: I dislike my splash screen because it's an ugly pink-blue gradient. :P04:16
PherdinandI've decompressed the file "install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz" in order to install under KUBUNTU Breezy04:16
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Pherdinandbut, it doesn't work...I was using /usr/lib/kde3 and /usr/share/apps/konqueror04:17
Pherdinandwhere's the right path for installing Macromedia Flash for Konqueror under Breezy?04:17
joey^^The following packages have unmet dependencies:04:17
joey^^  mplayer-nogui: Depends: libpolyp0 but it is not installable04:17
Pherdinandthanks04:17
joey^^huh? i can't install mplayer?04:18
PherdinandI ran the install file from macromedia in those paths but I can't see flash websites04:18
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Pherdinandjoey you can find the dependencies and install that file manually04:18
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Pherdinandunder kubuntu.org04:18
joey^^what a pain in the ass04:19
Pherdinandsomeone can help me with my macromedia flash-konqueror problem, plz?04:19
Pherdinandyou tell me, I was doing that just a few hours ago for upgrading KDE to 3.5.204:19
joey^^i can't believe mplayer wont install, it's such a basic package that everyone uses04:20
PherdinandI was reading in google something about importing flash plugins from firefox, but it doesn't works either04:20
Pherdinandso, I tried 3 ways: importing the plugin from firefox, installing in one path, and installing to another path...any idea?04:20
Pherdinanddoes konqueror play flash movies?04:21
LeeJunFan!flash04:21
ubotuInstallation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:21
produktI should be able to mount my partition from the live cd shouldn't I?04:21
PherdinandJoey, I can't believe the same thing04:21
joey^^!gstreamer04:21
ubotujoey^^: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:21
LeeJunFanprodukt: yeah.04:21
produktwhat if it says it can't?04:22
LeeJunFanprodukt: what error does it give?04:22
Pherdinandprodukt, if you write "df" you can see the free space?04:22
LeeJunFanprodukt: are you doing from gui or cmdline?04:22
joey^^grr, sound doesn't work, video doesn't work, can't install mplayer04:22
joey^^....04:22
produktmount: cant find /dev/hda3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab04:23
produktgui04:23
produktI can see the partition in gported04:23
produktand in /mnt04:23
produktor /media04:23
produktsame thing04:23
LeeJunFanprodukt: do it from cmdline. mkdir /tmp/hda3 && mount /dev/hda3 /tmp/hda304:23
LeeJunFanprodukt: probably need to use sudo (I dunno, never done live CD).04:24
produktwon't let me or mount it or idk04:26
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Pherdinandjoey, you can check in here04:27
Pherdinandhttp://packages.ubuntulinux.org/breezy/web/index.es.html04:27
LeeJunFandoesn't make sense - I always install mplayer.04:27
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joey^^i got mplayer, it was my source list that was borked04:28
LeeJunFanjoey^^: what version of kubuntu?04:28
LeeJunFanjoey^^: ah.04:28
joey^^just got to fix sound now04:28
joey^^so many layers to deal with04:28
joey^^alsa, gstreamer, alsasink, artsd04:28
LeeJunFanjoey^^: you that unlucky all the time? :) I don't think I've ever installed kubuntu and not had everything work right.04:29
joey^^lucky you :)04:29
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LeeJunFanjoey^^: 30 systems at our library, 7 at work, 3 at home. :p04:30
CheeseBurgerManI've only had to deal with the sound driver, video driver, and wifi when I install Kubuntu. :)04:30
ferrouswheelhow does one tell kde to use firefox as the default web browser?04:30
joey^^the sound driver etc works04:30
DjDarkmanhy ,i had power outage ,and now my partition that uses fat32 filesystem is always mounted read only no mather what i do ,what shoud i do?04:30
Pherdinandwell, I gave up with my monitor resolution04:30
Pherdinandjoey, do u have breezy?04:31
Pherdinanddepper?04:31
Pherdinand*04:31
joey^^it's kde/gstreamer/alsasink/artsd not selecting the right device.04:31
LeeJunFanferrouswheel: system settings, user account, default applications04:31
koshferrouswheel: kcontrol -> kde components -> component chooser -> web browser04:31
ferrouswheelLeeJunFan: thanks! (haven't been using kde long, used to be a gnome guy)04:31
LeeJunFanDjDarkman: fskc.vfat /dev/[device] 04:32
joey^^i can play raw pcm wav files using aplay04:32
CheeseBurgerManferrouswheel: Congrats on coming to the...blue side. :P04:32
ferrouswheelkosh: thanks to you too :)04:32
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joey^^it's just gstreamer/kde etc etc.. are using my onboard sound device instead of my audigy sound card04:32
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joey^^no visible way to select device04:33
koshjoey^^: why not just disable your onboard sound card?04:33
LeeJunFankosh: except kcontrol is unfortunately hidden because it's just so confusing for windows users.04:33
ferrouswheelCheeseBurgerMan: yeah, i'm still having trouble with the busy-ness of kde - but the it's all configurable so i just have to tell apps to NOT put 200 buttons on the toolbar ;P04:33
joey^^in gnome you just do volume control->file->change device and select your card04:33
koshLeeJunFan: I just knew exactly where it was in kcontrol and had not found it yet in the kubuntu panel04:33
joey^^krosh: it works fine in ubuntu, gentoo just not kbuntu, so it suggest kbuntu is the problem not the onboard sound04:34
koshkosh: I just always disable the onboard sound so there is NEVER a question any application about which to use04:35
joey^^infact it does work in kubuntu if i use aplay04:35
CheeseBurgerMankosh: Kcontrol isn't in the Kubuntu panel by default, either go to 'run' or open a terminal and type 'kcontrol'04:35
joey^^it's just all apps that go through gstreamer/artsd etc etc.. seem to be impossible to configure04:35
koshCheeseBurgerMan: just hit alt-f2 and type kcontrol04:35
LeeJunFanCheeseBurgerMan: yeah, one of the first things I add to my menu. good ole kcontrol.04:35
CheeseBurgerManLeeJunFan: Same here. :)04:36
koshjoey^^: artsd I know how to set, kcontrol -> sound and multimedia -> sound system -> hardware  and tell it the device location04:36
koshwhile I am running kubuntu it is not a normal kubuntu config :)04:37
DjDarkmanjoey^^: u want to use another soundcard?04:37
joey^^kosh: tried all that, has no effect04:37
tarmathjoey^^: try kmix04:37
koshit started out as debian about 5 years ago and I have just kept upgrading it04:38
joey^^tried kmix, multimedia system settings, no effetc04:38
CheeseBurgerMankosh: lol04:38
LeeJunFankosh: I've still got some files in my home dir from redhat V2 or 3. hehe04:38
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DjDarkmansorro joey^^ wasn`t here ,but do you want to switch the default soundcard?04:38
koshLeeJunFan: I think I have deleted most of those already, the system started out as redhat, was upgraded to mandrake and then live switched to debian about 5-6 years ago04:39
LeeJunFankosh: hehe, we took the same path.04:39
koshI don't see how those things can have no effect, I have done that before and never had an issue, however the correct way would be to just disable the onboard sound04:39
koshthen there is no problem at all04:39
joey^^i created a .asoundrc file with a device alias. this works with aplay but has no effect with other kde apps. thats because gstreamer/artsd/artsink all take over the sound system. i don't know where the settings for these services are04:39
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koshthe arts settings are in that control panel, you just set the device location and hit apply04:40
koshthat will change arts04:40
tarmathkmix is plugged right into alsa isnt it04:40
koshno idea about gstreamer and neither of those will effect xine04:40
DjDarkmanjoey^^: can you put your .asoundrc file content to the pastebin ,i had same issue and i fixed it maybe i can help you04:40
koshhowever I don't touch gstreamer in anything04:40
DjDarkmankosh: that only effects arts04:40
tarmathartsd and gstreamer should be plugged into alsa too, unless you changed it04:40
koshtarmath: kmix is just the mixer04:41
joey^^djdarkman: the .asoundrc works fine, aplay can use the device and i get output using my audigy2 card, it's just other apps that use gstreamer/artsd that don't work04:41
koshI know other ways to do it also but they are a pain04:41
tarmathif you open kaffeine, change the engine to gstreamer, then get into gstreamer engine settings, you'll see what gstreamer is plugged to04:41
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tarmathmine's in alsalink04:41
koshthe other good way is to change the module load bindings so that the audigy card is the default and the onboard is secondary04:41
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tarmaththen, it's a matter of getting alsa to work04:42
DjDarkmanjoey^^: i have too soundcards and everything works with the second04:42
joey^^tarmath: yes, alsasink, but how does one configure that gstreamer plugin is the question?04:42
koshhowever if you are not using the onboard sound card then why not just disable it04:42
joey^^infact how do you configure gstreamer, i can't find any kind of settings at all for it or alsasink04:43
tarmathjoey^^: okay playing an mp3 with kaffeine04:43
koshjoey^^: if you want anything beyond stereo you can'04:43
koshcan't use gstreamer04:44
tarmathjoey^^: i mean try playing an mp3 with kaffeine, first using gstreamer, then xine04:44
LeeJunFanhehe, I found that if you wanted anything better than silence you can't use gstreamer :)04:44
LeeJunFanI'm glad xine engine is the default in dapper.04:44
DjDarkmanLeeJunFan: realy?04:45
koshgstreamer is such a pos still04:45
tarmathis gstreamer really that bad? it seems like a good idea, maybe it just needs to nurture a bit...?04:45
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LeeJunFanDjDarkman: for some reason I never had any luck with it. I dunno what the prob was, but xine was headache free.04:45
joey^^tarmath: neither amarok nor kaffine can play mp3 on the default installation of kubuntu04:45
joey^^tarmath: probably needs some kind of extra gstreamer plugins04:46
LeeJunFanlibs04:46
tarmathamarok: they both use the xine engine by default, if one cannot work, then the other will not either, or any other program for that matter. i suspect your problem is within alsa04:46
DjDarkmani mean LeeJunFan ,does kubuntu dapper uses xine instead of arts?04:46
tarmaththe heck is amarok...04:46
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LeeJunFanDjDarkman: yeah.04:47
LeeJunFanDjDarkman: not instead of arts, instead of gstreamer04:47
joey^^it's odd as well04:47
ferrouswheeljoey^^: gsteamer0.8-mad for mp304:47
tarmathjoey^^: open kmix and see if you card is listed04:47
koshtarmath: it is as old as arts and still sucks very badly, they still can only do stereo and it is not very stable at all04:47
LeeJunFanDjDarkman: and the only thing to install to get mp3 playing is xine-extracodecs04:47
joey^^ferrouswheel: thanks04:47
DjDarkmanafter fsck.vfat how do i tell my system to mount my partition correcly?04:47
koshtarmath: xine can do 7.1 no problem, and I have had no stability problems with it in years04:48
LeeJunFanDjDarkman: sudo mount -oremount,rw [mountpoint]  if it's mounted now as ro04:48
tarmathkosh: as old as arts? isnt arts damned old? I read that arts would be dropped probly for gstreamer as of kde404:48
LeeJunFanDjDarkman: otherwize sudo mount -orw /dev/[dev]  [mountpoint] 04:49
DjDarkmani don`t like arts ,it always causes me problems04:49
koshtarmath: what was the original plan about a year or so ago but that has been dropped, instead a media framework has been made which allows you to choose04:49
koshtarmath: so with kde4 you will be able to use arts, gstreamer xine etc or if your card is advanced enough just use alsa directly04:49
tarmathkosh: xine is indeed elite, but it's using ms windows codecs isnt it? then if the patents on these are ever enforced, it's goes down the toilet.. or am I confused?04:50
koshtarmath: so if you have a modern sb card you can just drop the sound frameworks entirely04:50
LeeJunFanPersonally I just don't understand why someone can't let the kernel handle multiple streams and get rid of all the incompatability issues with all the different sound daemons.04:50
joey^^might seem a stupid question, but why doesn't kubuntu come installed with the gstreamer plugin for mp3's ?04:50
koshtarmath: umm it can't use that stuff but only for decoding windows files04:50
tarmath!mp304:50
dave__Winamp  5.20 Stopped04:50
ubotump3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:50
koshtarmath: not for just standard audio stuff04:50
tarmathjoey^^: man dont tell me you havent installed the support for the restricted formats...04:51
LeeJunFantarmath: not much point if he can't play sounds anyway :p04:51
joey^^tarmath: na, i was testing sound using wav's04:51
tarmathkosh: Im not sure I totally understand you, dont we need a framework between the file formats and alsa? thats the job of gstreamer/xine/etc... the sound card is always directly plugged with alsa04:52
nightskywind83while we're on the subject of sound04:52
LeeJunFanpull your own finger!04:53
nightskywind83i have successfully enabled mp3 playback after reading the helpful info at the above URL04:53
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nightskywind83but Kaudiocreator won't encode my wav's to mp3's04:53
koshtarmath: arts gstreamer etc do a lot more then just do decoding, they also do sound mixing and the sound mixing part is not needed on good cards04:53
nightskywind83error message produced is as follows04:53
nightskywind83The selected encoder was not found.04:53
nightskywind83The wav file has been removed. Command was: lame --preset standard --tt '' --ta '' --tl '' --ty '0' --tn '01' --tg 'Unknown' '/home/andy/cd/Track03.wav' '/home/andy/mp3/ - 01 - .mp3'04:53
LeeJunFannightskywind83: did you install lame?04:54
DjDarkmankosh: are cmedias considered good soundcars? :)04:54
nightskywind83yes04:54
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tarmathgood? they're eternal04:54
tarmathcant break em04:54
koshDjDarkman: don't know04:54
koshDjDarkman: by good I mean things like supports hardware mixing04:55
nightskywind83but perhaps a reinstall is in order04:55
DjDarkmankosh: it supports hw mixing ,in windows...here no hw mix :(04:55
koshDjDarkman: with the sblive, audigy etc cards you can send 32 to 64 sound streams to the card at the same time and it can mix them itself04:55
koshDjDarkman: then the card probably does not have hardware mixing04:55
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koshDjDarkman: lots of stuff pretends to do that and says it does that but it is often a driver hack04:56
tarmathkosh: I see, but the framework is still needed anyway, even without sound mixing and shit, and software is needed to tune it anyway04:56
tarmathhmm shitty sentence04:56
koshtarmath: for instance xine does not do mixing at all it just does decoding04:56
tarmathkosh: it's alsa's job to control mixing no?04:57
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DjDarkmanthis power outage will give me a headache04:57
koshtarmath: alsa does not normally do mixing, I don't know if it can04:57
koshtarmath: alsa just provides a low level interface to the sound card04:57
DjDarkmani can`t make my system to mount my partition to read and write04:58
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tarmathkosh: but if the sound card has audio mixing capabilities, it has to go through alsa to be accessible to software..?04:58
ferrouswheelkosh: if alsa can't do mixing then how are programs meant to access the hardware mixing support?04:58
LeeJunFanDjDarkman: check dmesg - see if there's any info there.04:58
tarmathDjDarkman: filesystem?04:59
koshcards that support hardware mixing support something called multiopen04:59
koshalsa does not have to do anything special to support the hardware mixing on the card04:59
DjDarkmantarmath:  fat32 ,i had power outage and now i get hell because of that04:59
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_abbenormalthanks guys if have problems ill be back04:59
tarmathDjDarkman: oh you were able before and not anymore?04:59
koshif a card supports hardware mixing it will just work easily05:00
DjDarkmantarmath: sure i was ,now i can`t continue my downloads05:00
tarmathDjDarkman: har, sorry to hear that...05:00
LeeJunFanDjDarkman: did fsck report any problems? if so you need to run it with -a or -r option to actually repair them.05:01
tarmathkosh: hardware mixing still cant be let free like that always turned on, with hardware features comes an interface to control it, alsa's job is to make soundcards's features available to software...05:02
DjDarkmanyes LeeJunFan so u say it didn`t fix it?05:02
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koshfor instance a sblive supports 32 multiopen, that means you can open the card 32 times without any problems05:02
LeeJunFanDjDarkman: from 'man fsck.vfat' If -a and -r are absent, the file system is only checked, but not repaired.05:02
koshthe way that is exposed to software is that you just open the sound card and send a file to it05:03
koshthat is how ALL sound cards should be05:03
tarmathhmm05:04
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DjDarkmanmy soundcards supports 17 or 16 streams but it simply doesn`t work with alsa05:04
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koshthe card probably doesn't really support it then05:05
crimsunis it a soundstorm?05:05
DjDarkmankosh: then in windows why do i does hw mixing work?05:05
koshI have seen some reviews for the windows side of the cards and some cards that said they supported multiopen showed very high cpu usage when doing it indicating that it was no truly happening in hardware05:05
tarmathbut there's still software that lets one adjust the sound, if this software isnt using alsa's interface with the card, then it can only modify the file before it gets to the card, that way you're not using the hardware feature but using the cpu to fake one...05:06
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crimsunwindows's directsound/kernel streaming is completely software.05:06
koshDjDarkman: it is unlikely that is it mixing in hardware ,windows hides all the mixing stuff and has for years05:06
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koshhowever there is a way to do that in linux transparently05:07
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koshthere is some kind of alsa thing where you can have it do software mixing transparently, however if you have a card that does hardware mixing that costs you cpu time for nothing and so it is still being worked on05:07
koshhowever the dapper developers could have used that05:07
koshand breezy05:07
koshlet me find the link05:07
crimsunit was enabled in Breezy05:08
koshah ok05:08
DjDarkmanthat would help me kosh05:08
crimsundmix is enabled by default for cards that are known not to support multiopen05:08
DjDarkmanohh dmix05:08
koshyeah that is it05:08
koshcrimsun: where is dmix configured so I know if it was turned on or not?05:08
DjDarkmani tried it but didn`t understand it`s syntax and didn`t seem to work and no official alsa forum and/or channel :(05:09
tarmathis there a way to see if dmix in on for a given soundacard? :)05:09
crimsunkosh: via alsa-lib05:09
koshjust want to make sure that it is off for me05:09
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crimsunit's definitely off for emu10k105:10
koshcool05:10
crimsunthe only drivers for which it's enabled have explicit dmix clauses in /usr/share/alsa/cards/05:10
tarmaththats what I got too05:10
koshI have an audigy2 zs plat pro05:10
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crimsunnote the distinct lack of /usr/share/alsa/cards/EMU10K1.conf :)05:11
tarmathand the ensonic have it on, as expected... nice05:11
koshcrimsun: I have that file05:12
tarmathme too, but no dmix05:12
crimsunyou should have a cards/EMU10K1X.conf05:12
tarmathgot both05:12
crimsunoh, you're on Breezy probably05:12
DjDarkmancrimsun: is there a link to a forum or something that explains how to enable and set up dmix ,that even mortals linke me understand?05:12
koshI have dapper but I upgraded05:12
koshso I have both :)05:12
koshI have not done a complete reinstall in probably 6-7 years05:13
crimsunDjDarkman: it's already enabled05:13
DjDarkmanbut why doesn`t it work?if i use an app that uses a different sound engine than xmms ,it gives no sound05:14
crimsunDjDarkman: which output is xmms configured to use?05:14
DjDarkmanbut if i turn off xmms it works happyli05:14
DjDarkmansame issue if i use amarok instead of xmms05:14
crimsunmake sure xmms is configured to use the alsa plugin05:14
crimsunmake sure amarok is configured to use gstreamer's alsasink05:15
koshI would prefer xine with the alsa output05:15
koshlower cpu usage, more stable, better audio output and it can do more then stereo05:15
DjDarkmanalsa05:15
DjDarkmansame for amarok05:15
koshxine >>>>> gstreamer  :)05:15
crimsunif your card doesn't support multiopen, then whenever an oss-only app grabs /dev/dsp, any other alsa-native or oss-only app blocks. That's how alsa's oss emulation works.05:15
joey^^gstreamer's alsasink uses sound card 0 by default and there is no way to change it ....05:16
koshmost apps support alsa now though05:16
koshand it looks like dmix will be transparent soon in just about any dist05:16
crimsunjoey^^: bzzt. We changed that in Breezy, and it's even more slick in Dapper.05:16
koshthat means that mixing should not be done by arts, gstreamer etc and it shoudl be expected that the os will do it05:16
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crimsunjoey^^: Breezy ships with set-default-soundcard; Dapper ships with asoundconf (both part of alsa-utils).05:17
joey^^crimsun: i'm using breezy and i can't use gstreamer apps with my second sound card05:17
crimsunsure you can.05:17
crimsunpastebin the contents of ~/.asoundrc*05:17
joey^^care to explain how?05:17
DjDarkmani have this problem between cedega and xmms or skype and xmms05:17
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phinhi everyone05:17
crimsunDjDarkman: set cedega to use the alsa output. skype is oss-only. set xmms to use alsa for output.05:18
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phingiving kubuntu a try on this laptop, was giving ordinary ubuntu a try, but gnome is just not for me i think05:18
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crimsunDjDarkman: set cedega to use the alsa output. skype is oss-only. set xmms to use alsa for output.05:18
joey^^crimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Qzb2Qu92.html05:18
tarmathphin: omg how can you dont like gnome?!?!05:18
phinheh05:19
phini just dont like it05:19
tarmathphin: ;)05:19
joey^^crimsun: that works fine with aplay -D audigy2 <wav file>05:19
crimsunjoey^^: you've modified ~/.asoundrc, so of course set-default-soundcard isn't going to touch it05:19
DjDarkmancrimsun: tried that ,won`t wrk05:19
phini like how it looks and feels, but the apps just dont feel as good05:19
phinplus, i LOVE kate05:19
phinhehe05:19
crimsunDjDarkman: you didn't read what I typed above about oss-only apps, did you?05:19
joey^^crimsun: there was no .asoundrc originally05:19
tarmathyes!! but kate should come with many colorschemes...05:19
crimsunjoey^^: and you created that one, correct? :)05:19
_KevinD_hello05:20
joey^^crimsun: yes to try and fix the problem of no sound using gstreamer and co05:20
phintarmath: how does kwifimanager handle profiles? pretty well?05:20
koshtarmath: many of your sentences don't make sense05:20
DjDarkmancrimsun: with skype ok ,but cedega has alsa output05:20
crimsunjoey^^: read the man page for set-default-soundcard very closely. note in particular the section about the markers and how set-default-soundcard won't touch ~/.asoundrc* if those markers are missing.05:20
tarmathkosh: I know I can hardly believe it myself, it's getting late and my brain stops working when I grow tired...05:21
_KevinD_I Don't mean to interrupt, but I'm new to linux and IRC05:21
joey^^crimsun: whats set-default-soundcard?05:21
tarmathkosh: thanks for telling me :P05:21
crimsunjoey^^: it's a script that sets the default sound card used by alsa-lib.05:21
CheeseBurgerMan_KevinD_: What's the problem?05:21
phinah05:21
_KevinD_nothing05:22
CheeseBurgerMan_KevinD_: Good. :D05:22
phinlets see how well debfoster kills out ubuntu-desktop05:22
phin:)05:22
joey^^crimsun: would have been nice to have known that before i had to create the file myself lol :)05:22
_KevinD_I just had a little trouble figuring out how to use IRC05:22
CheeseBurgerManAh05:22
CheeseBurgerManI see you figured it out, though. :)05:22
_KevinD_yep05:22
crimsunjoey^^: that's really a Kubuntu issue. GNOME has it via the control center app (System> Preferences> Sound> default sound card dropdown)05:22
joey^^crimsun: ye, i had no problem with gnome at all :(05:23
crimsunI have an open ticket here to wrangle the same thing into Kubuntu's System Settings05:23
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joey^^crimsun: volume control -> file -> change device worked through gnome05:23
crimsunjoey^^: that doesn't set the default device (doesn't call set-default-soundcard/asoundconf) last I checked05:24
regeyaso, I hate to nitpick, but about those System Settings...will that someday have all of kcontrol's functionality?  if not...well, I'll say nothing else as I was taught to say nothing if I had nothing nice to say *wink*  seriously, it looks like a great idea, but in practice I jsut get aggravated.  maybe I'm too brainwashed by using kcontrol all this time.05:25
joey^^crimsun: i'm not sure, i just remember using that and it worked first time...05:25
crimsunyou should be able to set the volume, yes05:25
_KevinD_Is there a file I need to edit on my system to make the hard drive spin down after say 20 minutes of inactivity?05:25
_KevinD_for power conservation05:26
Hobbseeregeya: i agree with you.  apparently kcontrol was too confusing or something.05:26
Hobbseeat least both are installed by default!05:26
joey^^crimsun: it does set the default device in the gnome volume control. i'm also pretty sure it writes the .asoundrc as well05:26
koshHobbsee: kubuntu is trying to make things easier and as such they are missing many options ,however you can always use kcontrol05:27
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crimsunjoey^^: either way, it's cool05:27
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joey^^crimsun: my sound finally works, thanks lot :)05:29
crimsunnp.05:29
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Hobbseekosh: yes, exactly05:32
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phinquick question about kde05:35
phindoes kubuntu have keybindings all set for my volume buttons and such like ubuntu does out the box?05:36
phinor would i need to hard set these?05:36
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thompadapper+105:39
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MachineScrewphin: you need to set them up05:41
phinok05:42
phinjust curious before i procedd05:42
MachineScrewnp05:42
phinthats one nice thing i liked about ubuntu on my first install, all the laptop function buttons Just Worked (tm)05:43
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phinalthough the only once i use is volume05:43
phinoh, and the cd one, it umounts and ejects it05:44
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Draevenquick question on entering WEP keys in /etc/network/interfaces - do I have to separate the values with a colon, or just put them all together?05:53
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HobbseeDraeven: put them all together i think.05:53
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HobbseeDraeven: actually,  i think it's XXXX-XXXX-XX IIRC05:54
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robotgeekDraeven: i have them all together05:56
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yoyobeanHey, what does everybody think about the new Konqueror settings in Breezy? I noticed that a lot of functionality was missing from the menus, so I switched everthing back to the default kde profile.06:22
robotgeekyoyobean: hah, i am on dapper06:23
regeyathe default kubuntu settings suck for that very reason.  there is no reason to perform a gnome-like castration on kde just to help gnomers hide their sense of inadequacy.  *hides*06:24
regeyanah, it's a good step, I'm just jokin'.  I did have to enable a few things, though, b/c I went crazy without my window splitting in konq among other things06:24
yoyobeanI don't mind the menu bar cleanup, but it pissed me off when I noticed the missing menu entries.06:25
regeyaheh...you have to admit, though, that the menu bars in default kde are kind of like a top-model swiss army knife:  it has a lot of stuff, but who can keep track of everything?06:26
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yoyobeanI also noticed that when I upgraded, control center was taken off the KDE menu, and the replacement "system settings" was nowhere to be found, so I had to install it manually.06:29
regeyayikes.06:29
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Hobbseeyoyobean: kcontrol should still have been installed...just not on the kmenu06:30
yoyobeanYeah, it was, but it took me a while to remember what the actual command was.06:32
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mischkoWhat do I need to install to run make?06:33
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mischkoautomake 1.9?06:34
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yoyobeanI don't know a lot about compiling software, but that sounds like a good thing to try.06:35
mischkodidn't work. Make's still not in the path.06:36
ce_christhi06:36
mischkoahh.  "make"06:36
yoyobeanI recently had to compile libmtp by hand to get my mp3 player to work. I finally got it to compile, but I still don't know what the magic combination was.06:37
Hobbseemischko: install build-essentials06:38
yoyobeanNormally, you would type "./configure" then "make," but for some reason, it never seems to be this simple.06:38
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robotgeek!compile06:39
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ubotuA nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)06:39
mischkoI'm trying to get a new video driver going. The video driver readme is telling me to get the kernel source go to it and make menuconfig, etc.06:40
yoyobeanThe problem with apt is that the repositories aren't updated nearly as quickly as new sofware versions come out.06:41
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Hobbseeyoyobean: this is the price to pay for having a stable system, yes06:41
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yoyobeanWell, I would not be able to use my mp3 player at all with linux if I just used the repositories, but I'm glad theyr'e there.06:43
mischkoI need ncurses-devel but it's not in Adept's package list.06:44
Hobbseemischko: libncurses-dev?06:44
johnshaftHi. Is there a way to enable a suspend/hibernate button in the kubuntu logout menu?06:44
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mischkoHobbsee: .. trying that.06:44
Hobbseemischko: libncurses5-dev06:44
ce_christhi how are u06:44
Hobbseejohnshaft: you should be able to configure it in klaptop/kpowersave06:45
Hobbseein the bottom right corner....06:45
johnshaftI looked there. I can enable it for my lid close but I don't see anyway to enable an option in the logout screen.06:45
Hobbseeah...06:46
johnshaftMaybe I'm missing something06:46
Hobbseei havent seen it06:46
johnshaftBummer. I really like KDE more than Gnome but I kinda need this option :(06:46
yoyobeanI wonder if there is a command you can type for this.06:47
robotgeekjohnshaft: maybe look in the Login Manager section06:47
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yoyobeanIf there is a command for hibernate/suspend, you could set up a keyboard shortcut for it.06:48
Hobbseethere is - /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh or something...06:49
johnshaftYou would think this would be a pretty standard thing to have in KDE. I'm surprised its not built in06:49
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yoyobeanDoes anybody here use Adept? Is it as good as Synaptic?06:53
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swaits_i like it a little better - it's different06:54
robotgeekyoyobean: very nice, i prefer it to synaptic06:55
yoyobeanI'll have to give it a try.06:55
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yoyobeanWell, I just installed Adept. I can already tell that I like synaptic's catagory listiing better.07:01
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jon_hi07:03
robotgeekyoyobean: you are on breezy right? (adept improved in kde 3.5.2)07:04
yoyobeanYeah.07:05
yoyobeanJust checked: I'm using KDE 3.4.3.07:06
yoyobeanAre there many improvents in Dapper?07:09
imbrandontons07:09
imbrandon( in dapper )07:09
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neoncodeIn the konsole. Is it possible to make it so that my command prompt iself is coloured but the output text is just white?07:30
Tallia1Kubuntuhi there?07:31
neoncodeTallia1Kubuntu: Hi. =)07:31
Tallia1Kubuntuis there anything similar to kpf but that allow FTP instead of HTTP ?07:31
Tallia1Kubuntuthe downloading service is very cool but it would be very!! cool to have it for uploads too07:32
neoncodeI don't even know what kpf is... ><;;07:33
Tallia1Kubuntukpf is a plugin for kicker that allow you to create in a VERY fast way a webserver07:34
Tallia1Kubuntuyou know, linux and MSN for file transfer don't work really well togheter.. :P07:34
yoyobeanYou can change the appearance of your promp using environment variables. I'll have to chek what which ones.07:34
Tallia1Kubuntu?07:34
neoncodeTallia1Kubuntu: Hmm... I dunno you'd be best off finding someone who knows about kpf...07:35
neoncodeTallia1Kubuntu: And they work for me...07:35
Tallia1Kubuntuthey work for you????07:36
neoncodeTallia1Kubuntu: One of my friends on MSN sends me stuff all the time via kopete. I think she has just plain old MSN aswell...07:37
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neoncodeOh does anyone know what the package for the X includes is?07:39
Tallia1Kubuntuneoncode: if you are on a LAN and you send  a movie via MSN is very...... slow07:40
Tallia1Kubuntuwhile with FTP is incredibly fast07:40
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neoncodeTallia1Kubuntu: well on MSN I'm not sure but does it upload the file via MSN's servers. So the file travels out of your lan then back into it?07:41
nrdbI am wondering if USB phones are usable under Linux?07:41
Tallia1Kubuntuno, windows user exchange them as fast as if i use FTP07:41
Tallia1Kubuntunrdb: i'd like to know too :)07:41
yoyobeanAh, $PS1 is the name of one of the variables for changing the prompt. type "man bash" and search for prompting.07:42
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yoyobeanI imagine you would need to output ansi escape codes to change the color.07:45
RaRe!rar07:46
ubotuwell, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression07:46
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mikeo1anyone know why clicking the home button in konqueror crashes it and freezes up xgl?08:27
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alexnicolMorning08:28
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_girmeh?08:32
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_GiR_this kubunto thing is cool,.. i just wish it would of allowed me to set my own damn root password   >_<08:34
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yoyobeanWhat is xgl?08:35
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mikeo1xgl is the shit08:35
noaXess_GiR_: go to the user manager and set it..08:35
noaXess_GiR_: or a sudo passwd root08:36
yoyobeanYou can set a root password, but a lot of people think it's a bad idea.08:36
_GiR_ohh,.. that was easy   O_o08:37
noaXess_GiR_: :)08:37
_GiR_but if i can't be root, how do I install software?08:37
noaXesssudo apt-get install package08:38
noaXessafter sudo.... you need to input your password08:38
_GiR_ooOOoooh08:38
noaXessor use the package manager from the kmenu, system..08:38
noaXesswindow based apt-get08:38
_GiR_I got a little lost when trying to install Opera, it wanted to open up a .deb file in Kate08:40
noaXess_GiR_: i think kate is not a good choice :)08:41
_GiR_i know, but it opened it into that on its own,..  >_<08:41
yoyobeanIt's been quite a few years since I've actually logged in as root for anything. Is this really neccessary for anything anymore?08:41
noaXessyoyobean: yea.. if u have forgotten your userpwd.. :)08:41
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yoyobeanNot as likely as forgetting the root password.08:42
noaXessyea.. :)08:42
noaXesssome server application management.. its better to have root access..08:43
noaXessbut on a desktop..08:43
noaXessif sudo works.. all is good08:43
yoyobeanWell, I do use root privileges, but I never seem to need to log in as root.08:44
noaXessyoyobean: yes.. thats correct08:45
yoyobeanI think the last time I did so was when I was using redhat 8.08:45
_GiR_holy crap,.. so thats why the games are missing,.. this pakage installer is pretty awesome   :D08:45
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alexnicolCan someone tell me the sources.list for kubuntu?08:47
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imbrandon!respitorys08:47
ubotuimbrandon: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:47
imbrandonsomething like that08:47
imbrandonlol08:47
alexnicol!repositories08:48
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource08:48
Terminusalexnicol: you don't need new repos. just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to get it.08:48
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DenHi - Ktorrent help please - Using Kubuntu stable, How do I get ktorrent to accept info about dl'ing a torrent (specifically a debian Sarge iso) - there is no help file, and I see no way to enter a torrent file location for download - what do I do?08:49
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_GiR_one thing i'd like to know is,.. is where my other hard drive (and NTFS partition) is mounted to   O_o08:51
alexnicolI've got it08:51
alexnicolI'm trying to get something else to install and the guys in the ubuntu rooms wondered if it was due to repos08:51
alexnicolTerminus - I'm trying to install kooling08:52
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Terminus_GiR_: AFAIK, other partitions and hard drives aren't mounted automatically. you may have to mount them manually and/or edit /etc/fstab08:52
alexnicolI've downloaded the tar.gz, and I keep getting an error of - checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!08:52
yoyobeanEverything should be listed in kinfocenter.08:53
Terminusalexnicol: just searched here. it's not in any of the repos. looks like it may take more than the usual work to get it to run.08:53
Terminusalexnicol: are you compiling from source?08:53
alexnicolyeah08:54
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alexnicolwhen I try and compile it, I get to the line above08:54
oddiehello08:55
Terminusalexnicol: i'm guessing that you're missing libqt3-headers.08:55
oddiehas anyone had luck installing/compiling nvidia drivers?08:56
paxwhat's kooling, some overclocking utility?08:56
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nico8481hi09:02
alexnicolTerminus09:04
alexnicolI've got them09:04
alexnicolI've installed everything Qt related09:04
Terminusalexnicol: meh... i have no idea then.09:04
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GNU_Styleanyone have any idea of LDAP+Samba for active directory10:02
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visik7GNU_Style:  uh ?10:24
visik7u can't act as a AD pdc with samba10:24
GNU_Stylewats an active directory server?10:24
GNU_Stylewats ir common use??10:24
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visik7uh ?10:24
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noaXessuh11:08
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slow-motionhallo11:55
Reznorhallo11:55
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fjellrev1Anyone know if I can assign a command to a key or a mouse button?11:59
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burepeHelp, my working tv tuner card lost video. Now I have sound and a black screen, More info here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=929416#post92941612:24
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mendredhi12:35
mendredi am using k3b to burn dvds12:36
mendredwhen it starts it says its burning at 8x12:36
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mendredbut it burns only at 2x max12:36
mendredthe writer works fine under nero in windows..12:37
mendredcan someone help?12:37
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paines_mendred: i just burned an iso. it start with 20x and gos then up to 40x. the avarage in the end is 27.50, k3b is configured for 40x. so I guess these "x" values cannot be reached always01:09
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visik7paines: obviously01:12
visik7also in windows is like this but nero (for example) doesn't show it01:12
visik7alchool shows01:12
_mendredvisik7: nero takes 10 mins to burn the dvd ..k3b takes half an hour01:13
visik7half an hour is 2x01:13
visik710 minutes is 8x01:13
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visik7more or less01:13
_mendredyes01:14
_mendredthats my problem01:14
visik7probably k3b doesn't recognize your support as 8x01:14
visik7try a newer version of k3b01:14
_mendrednah it does01:14
_mendredit starts by saying01:14
_mendredburning at 8.2x01:14
painesk3b is just an frontend to cdrecord01:14
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painesso get a newer cdrecord01:14
visik7paines: correct01:14
_mendredwell in this case growisoifs01:14
_mendredgrowisofs01:14
_mendredi mean01:14
_mendredyeah thats what i am doing01:15
_mendredright now growisofs 5.2101:15
_mendreddownloading 6.1 source01:15
_mendredand compiling01:15
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ganymed_hallo01:39
ganymed_i cannot choose any keyboard layout in kcontrol, though it used to work just one month ago or so. any ideas?01:39
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mvv_zZzganymed: what does "which xmodmap" say?01:41
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ganymed_where can i find this?01:42
mvvas an output under the command you give in bash01:42
mvv(konsole)01:43
ganymed_didn't think this was an actual command01:43
ganymed_it is: /usr/bin/xmodmap01:44
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silktraderHello.01:44
mvvganymed: look for your languagecode when you do "locate xmodmap"01:45
mvvganymed: and then do "xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.<language>"01:45
silktraderI seem to be having issues with newly connected hardware ... namely a pcmcia card ...01:45
silktrader... is this the right place where to ask?01:45
mvvganymed: if your languagecode isn't there you'll need the gnome-applets-data package01:46
ganymed_mw: is the an x specific prob. or more due to kde?01:46
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mvvganymed: well, if kde is missing all the layoutd, it might missing a package (the one i mentioned)01:48
ganymed_there is no xmodmap.<my_language> file...01:48
mvvthe gnome-applets-data is what you want AFAIK01:48
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ganymed_mw: do you mean me?01:50
mvvganymed: i had the same problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=877705&postcount=20101:50
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silktraderWhoopsie.01:50
mvvganymed: sry, yes that was for you :)01:51
ganymed_mw: so the question is: why did it stop working? did they change sth.? or is it because of the kde 3.5.1 upgrade?01:51
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silktradermvv: Hardware issues concerning ubuntu and pcmcia/usb - no solution in forum - where to look for?01:52
mvvsilktrader: yes this is a place to ask questions, though i am not into hardware so i am not much help...01:52
silktraderThanks :-)01:52
ganymed_okay, thx very much. i guess now it's time for an xserver restart01:53
ganymed_cu01:53
mvvganymed: dunno why, i had this issue from flight501:53
mvvoh too late01:54
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ganymed_hi again01:56
mvvhi01:56
mvvworked out?01:56
ganymed_mw: where did you say those xmodmap files should be?01:56
ganymed_no01:56
mvvganymed:  /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.<language>01:57
ganymed_i installed the gnome-applets-files package... didn't improve the situation, so i thought i might have to run the xmodmap command01:57
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ganymed_this shitty locate command didn't show me all files01:58
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mvvganymed: but does kcontrol let you choose now?01:59
mvvganymed: it should be..01:59
ganymed_mw: no. but i hadn't executed the command01:59
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ganymed_so restarting again?01:59
mvvganymed_: the command doesn;t have to be executed, it's only for changing the layout and that's done in kcontrol too02:00
ganymed_mw: wait, i am checking again02:00
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carlHey guys, I need a hand. How do I set proxy for console... as in I want all connections to go through the proxy...02:01
carllike ping, apt-get and so forth02:01
ganymed_mw: where do i change the layout02:04
ganymed_?02:04
mvvganymed_: in kcontrol? the italian flag - keyboardlayout (couldn't find the right word )02:06
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ganymed_mw: sth is really messed up here, i don't even have a euro symbol02:07
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ganymed_yes, but i cannot choose. how is the package called that sets up this module?02:09
mvvganymed_: for kde? i have no idea, i am only a user myself02:09
ganymed_mw: well, it doesn't work, there is nothing to choose02:10
mvvganymed_: are you sure you haven't missed the button to enable it in the top-left?02:10
silktradercarl:export $PROXY02:10
silktradercarl: to the address:port02:11
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silktradercarl: add to profile whether necessary for automatic loading02:11
ganymed_mw: NO :)02:12
silktradercarl: apt-get has its own proxy setting.02:12
silktradercarl: check in /etc/apt/conf or something.02:12
mvvganymed_: okey, then i would try to reboot; maybe KDE only reads these files while booting(?)02:12
silktradercarl: or something :-)02:13
mvvganymed_: just telling what i would do02:13
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ganymed_mw: thx very much. i have to go now. cu+02:15
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Al-Dajabbl02:54
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DocMartinhow can I edit konqueror profiles in kubuntu?02:57
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erofeehi all02:57
DocMartinhi erofee02:57
erofeeHave a newb php server question, can anyone help?02:57
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DocMartinwhat exactly is your problem?02:58
cfraz89hi02:58
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erofeeok, little background02:59
erofeeam using, Kubuntu, Apache2 mysql and PHP402:59
erofeeam trying to install a CMS02:59
erofeebut when i try and load up the site, the server isn't interpreting the code, it lets me download it02:59
DocMartinhave you installed libapache2-mod-php4?03:00
erofeei think so, let me check03:00
erofeeyep, have it installed.03:03
DocMartinok, open a console and cd to /etc/apache2/mods-enabled03:03
erofeeyep03:03
DocMartindo an ls ... is there a file called php4.conf and/or php4.load?03:04
erofeethis is what i get:03:04
erofeecgi.load  userdir.conf  userdir.load03:04
DocMartinis this all?03:05
erofeethat's all03:05
DocMartinsudo ln -s ../mods-availible/php4.conf03:05
DocMartinand03:05
DocMartinsudo ln -s ../mods-availible/php4.load03:05
B4zzAhmm is there a way to install the new version of kde through apt?03:05
DocMartinsorry, correction03:05
DocMartinsudo ln -s ../mods-available/php4.load03:05
DocMartinsudo ln -s ../mods-available/php4.conf03:05
cfraz89B4zzA: apt-get upgrade should do it03:06
cfraz89it got mine up to 3.5.203:06
erofeedone03:06
HobbseeB4zzA: see /topic03:06
erofeewhat do those commands do?03:06
DocMartinerofee: now do sudo /etc/init/apache2 restart03:06
B4zzAah k ...ill try that03:06
B4zzAbrb03:07
DocMartinerofee: linking the module to mods-enabled, so they are actually loaded03:07
erofeedo you mean sudo apache2ctl restart?03:07
DocMartinerofee: there always is one more way to do it, yes03:07
DocMartinerofee: personal preferences03:07
erofeeapache2: could not open document config file /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php4.conf03:07
DocMartinok ... cd to /etc/apache2/mods-available03:08
DocMartinis there a file called php4.conf?03:08
erofeethere is03:08
erofeeshould i load it up in an editor?03:09
DocMartinno03:09
DocMartincd back to mods-enabled03:09
DocMartinls ... are the php4-links red or cyan?03:09
erofeephp4.conf is red, the others are cyan03:09
DocMartinok. red links are broken ones ... sudo rm php4.conf03:10
DocMartinand sudo ln -s ../mods-available/php4.conf03:10
DocMartincheck for typos03:10
erofeenow php4.conf is cyan03:11
DocMartinand now restart your apache03:11
erofeedone03:12
DocMartindoes your cms work now?03:12
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erofeesort of, now it is having access problems.03:13
DocMartinwhat kind of access problems?03:13
erofeemust have entered wrong password in the CMS config file03:13
erofeebut i think that i am in the right direction now03:14
DocMartinwell, that's up to you for experience ;) ... but php does work, does it?03:14
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erofeeas far as i can tell it does, Konq give me the error, firefox still wants to download the file.03:14
erofeeweird huh03:14
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DocMartinrestart firefox ... sometimes ff is weird on cacheing03:15
DocMartinStill having the following question: how can I edit konqueror profiles in kubuntu?03:15
erofeethanks for the help03:16
DocMartinnp03:16
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cfraz89DocMartin: settings, save view profile ?03:17
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DocMartincfraz89 ... that saves a profile ... I want the sidebar in web profile .. no idea how to accomplish it.03:18
DocMartintherefore, I'd like to get rid of this profile and use the file browsing mode for it03:18
cfraz89just leave the sidebar open and save03:19
cfraz89worked for me03:19
B4zzAthanks guyz03:20
B4zzAit worked :)03:20
B4zzAhad to get a source for the new version03:20
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DocMartinB4zzA: what new version are you speaking of? 4.0 or 3.5.2?03:21
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nico8481re03:25
B4zzA3.5.203:27
B4zzA...i only just installed kubuntu03:28
Tm_Terr03:28
visik7B4zzA: are u italian ?03:28
B4zzAlol?03:28
Tm_TB4zzA: he's insulting you, I think03:29
cfraz89B4zza, you could use adept updater03:29
Tm_T;-P03:29
visik7Tm_T: no I'm not insulting B4zzA03:29
cfraz89the triangle with exclamation mark03:29
visik7Tm_T: I'm italian03:29
cfraz89it should get you to 3.5.203:29
Tm_Tvisik7: just joking :p03:29
visik7nevermind03:29
B4zzAbrb ...restarting X03:29
Tm_Tvisik7: anyway, he came from australian jostname, soo, I'm pretty sure he's australian03:30
Tm_Thostname even03:30
Tm_Toh well, back to my dark cave ->03:30
visik7Tm_T: b4zza is an abbrevation for a common italian surname03:30
visik7oh03:30
visik7bazza not b4zzA :)03:30
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solancan any1 tell me if there excists a replacement for peerguardian for ubuntu? (running kubuntu desktop)03:37
Hobbseeyou can run peerguardian on kubuntu03:37
solanwhere can I download it?03:37
solanI cant seem to find it..(03:38
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solanHobbsee: ?03:41
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Hobbseesolan: is dansguardian the same thing?  you might have to google it03:42
solanI found a replacement called MoBlock, but I get an error when I make... It's for debian...03:43
solann00b;)03:43
v3ctordansguardian is a content filter03:44
Hobbseeah...yes of course...03:44
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Hobbseewe've had dansguardian at school03:44
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Hobbseesolan: what's the make error?03:45
solan2seks...03:45
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Newpshi i have a Belkin F5D7010 wireless pc carp d... the system seems to know about it and if i do an ifconfig -a i have an ath0... problem is if i try to bring it up with ifup ath0 i get "Ignoring unknown interface ath0=ath0"03:46
Newpsif i open kwifi it sees the card and if i click "scan for networks" it freezes03:46
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HobbseeNewps: lovely.  use wlassistant.03:47
Hobbseeit works *way* better :P03:47
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ninHerhi all03:47
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Newpswhere is the deb package for that?03:48
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HobbseeNewps: in the repos, i think03:48
solanHobbsee: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/66708503:48
Hobbsee!info wlassistant03:48
Hobbsee!info wlassistant dapper03:48
ubotuwlassistant: (User friendly KDE frontend for wireless network connection), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.5.5-0ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 139 kB, Installed size: 580 kB03:48
Hobbseeah, it's not in breezy...03:48
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Hobbseesolan: ouch03:49
Hobbseeerofee: are you on breezy or dapper?03:49
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solanHobbsee: mmmhmmm.....03:50
erofeei am on breezy03:50
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Hobbseeerofee: darn, okay...kde 3.5.2?03:50
erofeei think 3.5.1, bear in mind that i have been using linux for about 15 days now so i don't know much03:50
cfraz89no03:50
cfraz89use knetworkmanager03:50
B4zzAis the new dapper closed beta?03:51
Hobbseemmm ok03:51
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HobbseeB4zzA: no, anyone can run it03:51
Hobbseeerofee: do you use kppp at all?03:51
erofeeyep03:51
Hobbseecfraz89: or that03:51
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Hobbseeerofee: there's a long list of bugs for kppp - could you do me a favour, and see what's still a problem in your systems?03:51
Hobbseenone of the devs are dialup users, it seems :P03:52
cfraz89knetworkmanager owns all lol03:52
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erofeewhat do you mean Hobbsee?03:52
Hobbseeerofee: can you check if https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bugs?field.searchtext=kppp&search=Search&orderby=-priority%2C-severity still exist on yoru system?03:52
Newpsi cant find knetwork manager03:52
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Hobbseecfraz89: it does.  but it doesnt do dialup yet, i think03:53
HobbseeNewps: it's in dapper only, as well03:53
cfraz89no03:53
erofeei'll take a look now03:53
Newpsi uncommented all the repos in /etc/apt/sources.list03:53
Newpseh? wheres dapper?03:53
cfraz89but it handles wireless networks like butter on bread03:53
Hobbseecfraz89: exactly :D03:53
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cfraz89are we talking about Newps wireless card?03:53
Hobbseeerofee: you probably dont have an account, so if you can tell me if you can reproduce teh bug, and which number bug it is, that'd be a help...03:54
Newpsi am03:54
Newps:)03:54
cfraz89Newps: dapper is the next version of ubuntu03:54
cfraz89you should use it lol03:54
cfraz89its awesome03:54
Newpsum i usally beta test but i just want this POS to get up and running03:54
Newpsim sick of being stuck to my desk03:54
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HobbseeNewps: which card is it?03:54
cfraz89well you can add the lines manually to /etc/network/interfaces03:55
cfraz89i did that on my old computer03:55
NewpsBelkin F5D7010 wireless pc card03:55
cfraz89i can give you an example03:55
Hobbseeoh...that...03:55
exsaneteee....03:55
Hobbseeyeah, i just read up...03:55
NewpsIface wlan0 inet dhcp03:55
Newpsauto wlan003:55
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Newpsi added that03:55
cfraz89actually, Newps, did you try the system settings for it?03:55
HobbseeNewps: give me a second...03:55
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cfraz89Newps, did you try to set it up graphically?03:56
Newpsand ive been reading ive even tried installing ndswrapper garb for the card to work... just not getting anywhere03:56
cfraz89in system settings -> Network03:56
Newpsnope i havent03:56
cfraz89try it03:56
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erofeeID 16269: i uncommented the line to get it working for me03:57
Newpsi see "ath0 -> disabled"03:57
cfraz89would that be your wireless card?03:57
Newps*shrugs* lol03:57
Newpslooks like a wireless icon :)03:57
erofeeID 13694: i have neved used a phone to connect, i use ALSA03:57
cfraz89ok03:57
cfraz89try setting it up03:57
Newpsstupid laptop screen only supports 1024x768 and kde settings program will not resize so i can see the buttons on the bottom!03:58
cfraz89alt click will move it03:59
v3ctormy laptop only does 800x60003:59
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v3ctorand i have no issues03:59
erofeeID 37398: i have never used the phone cost calculator, but if you would like me to test it, i will next time i connect and email you the results if you like03:59
Hobbseeerofee: yep, okay03:59
Hobbseethat'd be great03:59
Newpsive been using linux for YEARS and never new that alt-click thing... lol SWEET03:59
Hobbseeerofee: hobbsee@ubuntu.com works...03:59
cfraz89lol03:59
cfraz89there is a kde tips guide somewhere03:59
cfraz89its full of stuff like that03:59
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cfraz89like if you right click on maximise button, it only maximises horizontally04:00
Hobbseeargh....someone edited that wiki article04:00
cfraz89and middle click only vertically04:00
erofeeno worries, next time i connect i will report in04:00
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cfraz89Newps: apparently your card works out of the box in ubuntu04:02
cfraz89i think using rt2500 driver04:03
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cfraz89my old computer is using it04:03
HobbseeNewps: you have to set the IP address, and the gateway, to get rid of that unknown interfaces message04:03
cfraz89actually04:03
cfraz89Newps, in your config file04:03
cfraz89just change wlan0 to ath004:03
solanHobbsee: any idea what wich pg clone I should use? I can't seem to get dansguardian to work...04:03
cfraz89it should be all good04:03
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Hobbseesol04:04
Hobbseesolan: no idea sorry04:04
v3ctorsolan: dansguardian requiers a proxy service04:05
solanmkay.. thx anyways m8..04:05
v3ctorrequires04:05
solanaaah... do-oh!04:05
Newpsnope still nada04:05
cfraz89does anyone here read the megatokyo comics?04:05
cfraz89nada?04:05
cfraz89ifup ath0?04:05
Newpsi still get that unknown crap from it.. yup04:05
solanis there any other alternatives to pg out?04:05
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v3ctorno idea04:05
HobbseeNewps: try this.04:05
Hobbseeifconfig eth0 <ip> netmask <mask>04:05
Hobbseeroute add default gw <gateway_ip>04:05
Newpsand through the gui i jclick enable and it just disables it right away04:05
solanmkay.. thx;)04:06
Hobbseeyeah, the GUI tool seems less than great04:06
cfraz89except use ath0 instead04:06
Newpsok04:06
Hobbseetry without the netmask, i didnt need it04:06
cfraz89Newps, if i were you id upgrade to dapper04:06
Hobbseewell, yeah04:06
cfraz89and install knetworkmanager04:06
cfraz89but its just me04:06
cfraz89im stupid04:06
v3ctorsquidguard04:06
Hobbseecfraz89: there are other bugs in dapper, so...04:06
paxanyone ubuntu'ing on inspiron 9300, what resolution are you using?04:06
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solanv3ctor: was that for me?04:08
cfraz89Hobsee, did you try dhclient ath0 ?04:08
v3ctorsolan: yes04:08
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v3ctorsolan: all you nned to get dans to work is apt-get install squid04:08
geiseriRiddell: ping04:08
Riddellgeiseri: hi04:08
solanv3ctor: mkay... thx04:08
geiserihiya buddy :)04:08
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v3ctorthen edit the /etc/dansguardian/dansguardian.conf04:08
v3ctorcommment out the UNCONFIGURED  line04:09
geiseriRiddell: i just upgraded my powerbook (breezy) to your kde 3.5.2 packages, and have some problems, is it worth reporting them somewhere (assuming here is not the place)04:09
geiseriRiddell: or should i roll back, and wait for dapper?04:09
v3ctorpoint you browser to port 8080 and your good04:09
Riddellgeiseri: pokeing me is good, what's the problems?04:09
cfraz89im having a wierd kde 3.5.2 bug04:10
cfraz89where a certain website doesnt load at all in konqueror04:10
geiseriWell the one that is killing me now is KDevelop cannot open any C++ files :)04:10
cfraz89but does in anything else04:10
solanv3ctor: thx man;)04:10
v3ctornp04:10
geiseriRiddell: the rest of my problems are the shitty quality of the KDE 3.5.x cycle04:10
Newpsifconfig ath0 192.168.1.22 netmask 255.255.255.0; route add default gw 192.168.1.1; ifup ath0;  ---->Ignoring unknown interface ath0=ath004:10
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v3ctorsolan: you will have to restart dansguardian after all that04:10
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v3ctor /etc/init.d/dansguardian start04:11
Riddellgeiseri: what's the error you get?04:11
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cfraz89i like kate04:13
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solanv3ctor: what did you mean by me pointing my web browser to 8080?04:14
geiseriRiddell: "No suitable viewer was found for the text/x-c++src mimetype"  it then asks if I want to let KDE find a suitable program (where it opens an external kate) or open it in KDevelop as plain text.  If I select plain text in kdevelop it keeps looping into the dialog.04:14
v3ctorsolan: the proxy settings on your browser04:14
solanaaah.. mkay04:14
geiseriRiddell: since the kate developers broke kate, it opens a new instance for each file :P04:14
v3ctorsolan: if all works well...you can test it by goung to aol.com04:15
v3ctorgoing*04:15
v3ctorshould block it04:15
Riddellgeiseri: that kate thing is fixed in dapper04:16
geiseriRiddell: ah, okay04:16
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geiseriRiddell: this is my work laptop, so im hesitant to go to dapper, but at this point I cannot do any Qt development under linux (ive been using OSX for the last few months at work)04:17
geiseriRiddell: do you have an idea on the mimetype thing?04:17
_chrisim not sure if either the ifconfig ......... netmask.... did the trick or the dhclient did it but my wireless work now even after reboot through the system settings in kde!!!!!!04:17
geiseriRiddell: or could that be a kate issue too?04:17
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Newpsso THANKS GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!04:17
cfraz89np!04:17
cfraz89cool04:17
HobbseeNewps: yay!04:18
Newpsim like beside myself04:18
Hobbsee:D04:18
cfraz89awesomeness04:18
Newpsi even tried fedora core 5 to get it working04:18
Hobbseeprobably the setting of it once, then it sets it correctly again the next time04:18
Newpshehe04:18
Hobbseeew....04:18
cfraz89does it work like that?04:18
Riddellgeiseri: let me try it on dapper now04:18
HobbseeNewps: meet google though, it gets answers quite quikcly04:18
Newpsive been googling mhy heart out04:18
geiseriRiddell: okay04:18
Newpssometime ya just miss something i guess04:19
cfraz89does anyone here read megatokyo?04:19
HobbseeNewps: ah ok, googling the exact error message used to come up with a ndiswrapper page, which had the commands to use to fix it04:19
Newpsgot to run ... thanks all!!04:19
Newpssweet04:19
geiseriRiddell: btw, i wanted to talk to you a bit about getting a version of breezy put together that didn't use the 2.6 kernels, since my Teron system wont boot with those04:19
geiseriRiddell: but thats another issue saved for weekends :)04:19
Riddellgeiseri: "debian"04:20
geiseriRiddell: yeah, but im addicted to the niceness of kubuntu ;)04:20
geiseriRiddell: but, i figured i could go that route worst case senario04:20
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solanhow the h*** do I stop dansguardian... or how do I chang what sites it is supposed to block?04:25
Hobbseekillall dansguardian, maybe?04:25
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v3ctorsolan: edit /etc/dansguardian/dansguardian.conf04:26
v3ctoryou can remove the proxy entry on your browser04:27
v3ctor == quick fix04:27
Riddellgeiseri: kdevelop seems to be working for me, is the problem opening C++ files from konqueror?04:28
geiserino, just from KDevelop.04:28
geiseriit may be something got munched when i upgraded04:28
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geiseriRiddell: are you on dapper, or breezy + kde 3.5.2 packages?04:28
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Riddellgeiseri: this is dapper, let me try in a breezy chroot04:28
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geiseriRiddell: thx04:29
RiddellAl-Daja: please don't use away scripts here04:29
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solanthx:)04:30
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v3ctorsolan: it is pretty restrictive by default04:31
v3ctoryou can edit the /etc/dansguardian/banned* config to allow/restrict...or use the exception* files04:32
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Riddellgeiseri: working fine for me, or at least it's opening c++ files and not complaining at all04:35
geiseriRiddell: grmbl... okay, it must be a problem between the chair and the keyboard :P04:35
geiserithx04:35
geiseriRiddell: the other question was about the zeroconf stuff, it complains about msdnsd not running, but i cannot find the daemon in any package in breezy04:36
Riddellgeiseri: install avahi-daemon04:37
geiseriRiddell: this is not important, but nice, when i want to get stuff off my mac04:37
geiserido i need to configure it at all?04:37
Riddellgeiseri: oh, I don't know how well the package worked in breezy04:37
Riddellgeiseri: no, it should just run once installed04:37
geiseriRiddell: okay, well ill give it a spin, its not a show stopper, KDevelop is the most important thing to my life :)04:37
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Riddellgeiseri: in the documentation tab in KDevelop it only shows Qt docs not KDE docs, do you know where those are defined?04:38
geiseriRiddell: i have to admit, that of the last 5 laptops and 6 workstations here, kubuntu breezy has worked very well out of the box04:38
geiseriRiddell: ah, the docs should be in some .toc files in the KDevAssistant stuff... (i would have to check the exact path on my test box's source build)04:39
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Riddellgeiseri: if you add --use  to the kate .desktop file that should stop it opening a new kate each time04:40
joey^^ouch, 705mb of 1024!! kde is a real hog, lol04:41
geiseriRiddell: ah, okay, thanks04:42
robotgeekjoey^^: that's not a bad thing, using the memory you have04:42
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joey^^robotgeek: ye, i just never seen that much used when i'm running barely no apps04:43
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joey^^it's hard to see whats using it as well04:45
geiseriyeah, this is where linux sucks the big donkeys04:45
geiseriat least on OSX, I can see how much _real_ memory kde apps take up04:45
joey^^could be a memory leak, amount keeps incrementing04:45
geiserijoey^^: its probibally cache04:46
geiserilinux will cache crap until your real memory is full04:46
joey^^:o04:46
geiserithen if you need to swap, it will clean up stuff from cache04:46
geiseriso if you open/close quite a few apps it will look like memory is leaking, but its really cache04:46
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joey^^^^04:47
joey^^used to gentoo + fluxbox, which never goes higher than 300mb :P04:47
geiseriwell fluxbox is only one program, so depending on your usage, it may very well stay low04:47
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geiseriif you use kde applictions you have things like kioslaves, kded, etc running04:48
joey^^ye, there is quite a bit of eye candy in kde04:48
joey^^i think i remember artsd being a bit of a hog with resources04:48
geiserijoey^^: well not only eyecandy, but things like network transparency, and shared desktop services add up04:49
joey^^i have to admit, kde is much more polished than gnome04:49
joey^^i was getting horrible performance and flicker in gnome04:50
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geiseriRiddell: fixed it, i wacked my kate and kdevelop settings and reconfigured them...04:58
geiseriRiddell: thx for you testing on your end though04:58
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Riddellgeiseri: cool, I wonder what was up with it05:02
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geiseriim wondering if its because of how i had upgraded05:03
BroxtorHow stable is Dapper at the moment?05:03
geiserii was using horay, then i got updated kde packages for that backported from breezy, then i upgrade to breezy05:03
geiseriand now i upgraded the kde packages backported from dapper...05:04
geiseriRiddell: i would assume, since i was using non-official configurations, that somehow i screwed something up05:04
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RiddellBroxtor: beta will be out this week05:05
v3ctorBroxtor: i have been running it for a while and it seems pretty solid to me05:05
_foobarI second that, though some apps are still pretty unstable05:05
BroxtorRiddell: v3ctor: Sounds good to me.05:05
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BroxtorAre there already repositories available with mplayer and such?05:06
_foobarof course05:06
wsjuniori've installed kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu.. is there any metapackage to delete all gnome-related packages?05:06
BroxtorI will think I will give it a try then. Thanks for the response all.05:07
_foobara question for all those dapper users: is amarok stable with your music?05:07
_foobarmy amarok keeps crashing every hour or so...05:08
v3ctor_foobar: i have been using it all day to play my ogg05:08
_foobarusing 1.4 beta 305:08
robotgeekwsjunior: http://robotgeek.org/wiki/ShellScripts/CleanPackage05:08
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_johnhow do you get konqueror looking like it did in 5.04 for a filebrowser?05:09
v3ctoramaroK: 1.3.905:09
_johnlike with teh sidebar on the side and a smaller window05:09
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_johnif i remember correctly there was a command line command to do this05:09
_johnlike you had to copy something or something05:09
_foobaryeah, maybe I'll just have to wait for the next stable ;)05:09
robotgeekhttp://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror _foobar05:09
robotgeekerr, _john05:09
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_johnoh crap05:10
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arcanistheroguesorry, i always forget to set that as default05:10
arcanistheroguethis is a new kubuntu install05:10
robotgeekarcanistherogue: that link maybe what you are looking for05:11
arcanistheroguethats exactly it05:11
v3ctorf9 will bring up the navaigation panel05:11
arcanistheroguesee, i had the same kubu install since october, so now that i had to reinstall i forgot what to do but i remember doing it05:11
arcanistheroguerobotgeek: thanks alot05:11
v3ctorif that is what _john was talking about05:11
arcanistheroguenow, i think im going to upgrade amarok...05:12
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dueyfinsterHello all, Just wondering, whats command for KDE Defaults GUI? I am trying to set Nautilus as default, is that the best way of doing it?05:16
Tm_Tdueyfinster: you can't use nautilus in KDE really05:16
Tm_Tdueyfinster: don't see even why would you like to05:17
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dueyfinsterTm-T: I already do, I like to set it to sudo (I know this is not recommended, but anyhoo). I find Konqueror too buggy, and I prefer nautilus icons+scripts feature05:18
dueyfinsterTm_T: I already do, I like to set it to sudo (I know this is not recommended, but anyhoo). I find Konqueror too buggy, and I prefer nautilus icons+scripts feature05:18
Tm_Twell, er05:18
Tm_Tno, I don't know05:19
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dueyfinsterTm_T: Ok thanks, its just I lost it out of my KMenu05:19
v3ctorrun kmenuedit and put it back05:20
dueyfinsterv3ctor: I would, but I don't know its command05:21
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v3ctorkmenuedit05:21
v3ctoroh..you mean nautilus?05:21
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dueyfinsterv3ctor: I know that, but I am looking for command of KDE Defaults GUI05:22
dueyfinsterv3ctor: You can set diff progs depending on ext.05:22
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arcanistherogueone more thing05:23
arcanistheroguein konqueror, i have 2 search bars05:23
arcanistheroguehttp://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2685/2sb2bh.png05:23
arcanistheroguesee, for some reason there are two google search bars05:23
arcanistheroguehow do i go about removing the second one?05:23
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mvv_zZzarcanistherogue: are both google extensions enabled?05:24
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arcanistheroguehow would i check?05:25
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arcanistheroguei just decided to use konqueror like 10 mins ago, i have only used it for a  filebrowser up until now05:25
mvv_zZzarcanistherogue: konqueror-  settings- setup extensions (translated though)05:25
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arcanistherogueconfigure extensions, i think thats what it is05:25
arcanistherogueaha05:25
arcanistherogueboth are05:25
arcanistherogueyou are right05:25
arcanistheroguethanks a lot man05:26
mvv_zZz:)05:26
Emskowhy should i use kubuntu instead of gnome ubuntu?05:26
arcanistherogueEmsko: because of KDE :D05:26
arcanistheroguemw_zZz, one last thing05:26
Emskokde is better?05:26
arcanistheroguehow do i get it to save profiles05:27
arcanistheroguelike now after i closed konqueror it happaned again05:27
arcanistherogueEmsko: many people prefer kde, many peolpe prefer gnome.  people using kubuntu generally prefer gnome :D05:27
arcanistherogueer kde i mean05:27
dueyfinsterEmsko: All a personal choice really05:27
mvv_zZzEmsko: just another anvirionment, you have to like it more than gnome to use it (it's about you)05:27
arcanistheroguekubuntu users prefer KDE05:27
arcanistherogueEmsko:  http://kde.org http://gnome.org05:28
arcanistheroguecompare05:28
mvv_zZz*environment05:28
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Emskois kubuntu as supported and up-to-date as regular ubuntu?05:28
Emskoit seems you guys have a smaller community05:28
dueyfinsterEmsko: Smaller yes, but it is as well supported and up-to-date as ubuntu, because KDE can use gnome applications and vice-versa05:29
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mlehrerso how painful is it to build a new alsa driver for ubuntu05:30
mlehrermy new motherboard's sound card requires the latest alsa05:30
mlehrerdoes that mean i need to grab kernel source and build a whole new kernel05:30
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v3ctorwe don't have smaller community...we just need less support ;)05:31
mvv_zZzarcanistherogue: in settings there is something like Save profile "kubuntu web" (again, Dutch is totally different)05:31
arcanistheroguehmm05:31
arcanistheroguethank you05:31
arcanistheroguedutch is a pretty cool language05:31
arcanistheroguehey, are you that guy from the forums, I sent a message to?05:31
mvv_zZzlol05:31
arcanistheroguethe KDE guy05:31
arcanistheroguekubuntu team05:32
mvv_zZzno i am not a member of any team if you meant me05:32
arcanistherogueoh ok05:32
mvv_zZzjust a user like you ;)05:32
nico8481i've got a problem with firefox' media plugins (mplayer) : it seems to load the videos which are embedded in webpages, but never displays them, although sometimes i get only the sound05:32
nico8481any idea?05:32
arcanistheroguethere was a guy who spoke dutch who was on the kubuntu team, I remember I talked to him about it05:32
arcanistheroguenico8481: same thing happens to me05:33
arcanistheroguenico8481: in the end i just save the media from the sourcfe05:33
arcanistheroguelike view the page source, then in there search for .mpg or .wmv and save the video file05:33
nico8481arcanistherogue: yup me too but that's boring... and sometimes the media isn't even mentionned in the source html05:33
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gnutonHi05:33
arcanistheroguetrue05:34
arcanistheroguehello gnuton05:34
nico8481arcanistherogue: any idea why it doesn't work?05:34
arcanistheroguenico8481:  no clue man, i might be abandoning FF though, I really liked opera in the time i used it and i might want to switch to konqueror so i have the full KDE experience05:35
mvv_zZznico8481: could be codec issue?05:35
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arcanistheroguenico8481:  all though i remember opera worked much better, flash synced (somtimes audio lags on FF in linux) and if i recall correctly videos played05:35
C-O-L-THow to insert text box in OpenOffice Writer, Writer is getting on my nerves, can not get this menu :))05:36
nico8481arcanistherogue: hmm i might have a look at it...05:37
arcanistherogueman konqueror is so nice and i want to use it so badly, but its so ahrd to get it the way i like it...05:37
arcanistheroguebut opera, i loved that browser05:37
arcanistheroguewoo05:37
nico8481mvv_zZz: i think they're all installed05:37
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mvv_zZznico8481: do you have a link to one that doesn't work? (just for testing here with konqueror@kmplayer and firefox)05:38
LeeJunFanC-O-L-T: insert a frame - I think is what you want.05:38
C-O-L-Tok05:39
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nico8481mvv_zZz: uh not right now it's something i've noticed over time... lemme find one :)05:39
C-O-L-TLeeJunFan: Thanks05:40
C-O-L-TLeeJunFan: that is it05:40
nico8481mvv_zZz: http://www.public.iastate.edu/~rdalhoff/embedvideo.html <-- none of them seems to work (although i get some sound but i don't know from which one :p)05:40
LeeJunFanC-O-L-T: your welcome.05:40
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arcanistheroguewell im out05:42
arcanistheroguesee everyone later05:42
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mvv_zZznico8481: i get video and audio on the two above in firefox05:43
mvv_zZznico8481: konqueror crashes though05:43
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rikvaIf I install the Dapper beta on my notebook, and Dapper is being officially released, will I upgrade to the 'stable' Dapper?05:44
mvv_zZznico8481: i use mozilla-mplayer plugin with w32codecs05:45
robotgeekrikva: yes, automagically05:45
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rikvarobotgeek: cool.05:45
nico8481mvv_zZz: yup i think i got both installed...lemme have another check :)05:45
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croesusnew to the apt system, is there anyway to install jre for firefox using apt or do I have to do the sun download crap...forgive my attitude please, I just found out I got divorced this morning...05:51
robotgeek!javadebs05:52
joey^^!mplayer05:53
ubotumethinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106105:53
joey^^that howto doesn't mention mplayer-nogui05:55
joey^^for some reason mplayer can't use xv05:56
joey^^odd, direct rendering isn't enabled05:57
robotgeekjoey^^: set in /etc/mplayer.conf, or ~/.mplayer/mplayer.conf05:57
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joey^^robotgeek: when i reconfigured xorg i think it removed the ati config stuff.06:02
joey^^brb06:02
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solandoes any1 know of a good wifi applet for KDE? I really like gtkwifi for GNOME and I'm looking for something like that...06:04
rikvakwifimanager?06:05
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solanthx... I'll try it06:06
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DarkEDhi06:06
slow-motionre06:06
DarkEDi need a little help...im trying to get my laptop multimedia keys (all i need is sound) working in kde06:07
DarkEDi already tried the 'fixes' but a shell wont even pick em up06:07
DarkEDthey work in gnome so i cant figure it out :D06:07
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_abbenormalhello all06:08
DarkEDhi06:08
v3ctorDarkED: kmilo ?06:08
_abbenormalis adept broken in 6.0606:08
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_abbenormali get a error apt database could not be opened cause maybe incorrect apt configuration try apt-setup and apt-get update see if it helps to resolve the problem06:11
_abbenormaltry apt-setup not found but apt-get update works fine no errors can install thru apt-get install06:12
_abbenormalany ideas as to where to look06:12
_abbenormalalso can add servers with nano and works fine with update and upgrade06:12
solanI don't have any keyboard models in the keyboard layout configuration...? wtf?06:13
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DarkEDok, v3ctor suggested KMilo for my sound keys problem, apt-get says i have it, how do I run it?06:14
DarkEDi tried kmilo from a shell, but nodda06:15
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slow-motionbbl06:18
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v3ctorhttp://www.kde.me.uk/index.php?page=kmilo06:20
DarkEDthats where i akm06:21
DarkEDam*06:21
DarkEDit doesnt say anything about how to use it except 'run kdeutils'06:21
noaXesswhat is the latest kernel of kubuntu breezy?06:21
DarkEDhow do i run kdeutils? lol, sorry06:21
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noaXess!kernel06:23
mvv!GPLv306:23
ubotumvv: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:23
_abbenormalshould i try and remove adept and reinstall it06:25
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waylandbillI'm having trouble mounting a samba share. My syslog shows "smbfs: mount_data version 1684370019 is not supported.06:27
juana06:27
larsrisI'm about to install Kubuntu on a new machine. Is "Kubuntu Flight 6 Released" a risky option?06:28
_abbenormalno06:28
_abbenormalim playing with it right now and so far it is all working fine06:28
_abbenormalloaded it up last night06:29
larsriscool ... better than breezy?06:29
mvvlarsis: not really, but you're probably gona have to download updates daily. Personally i would wait until the first beta (this week)06:29
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mvvlarsis: yes, definately (for me)06:30
larsrisyes, but I'm in a hurry06:30
_abbenormallol06:30
larsrismw: hassle?06:30
waylandbillin a hurry... gets me thinking of a car crash... :-)06:30
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larsrisgonna go somewhere, and windows is not an option06:31
mvvlarsis: nope all the updates from flight4 gone smooth here, i can't see a reason why not to06:31
_abbenormalonly problem im seeing right now is adept is not working right06:32
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_abbenormalbut if you know how to use apt then its not to bad06:32
larsrismw: cool, so you mean "definetly" go for relaease 6, not breezy (not deinitly avoid it?06:32
larsrisI now the basics of apt, having had breezy for half a year06:33
_abbenormali like living on the edge so for me i want to play but then i use sid also06:33
jpetsoRiddell: you rejected my bug named 'Search in about:konqueror disrespects "gg blah" instead of "gg:blah"'...06:33
larsrisi see06:33
jpetsoRiddell: that search bar may be for kiolocate initally, but:06:34
larsrissomtimes cool to be on the edge, but I need somethng to work pretty soon ..06:34
jpetsoRiddell: 1. it changes the search target together with the respective Konqueror default search engine, and06:35
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waylandbillsid... that's a little too on the edge for my tastes06:35
jpetsoRiddell: 2. it is _not_ Google specific, it is just as valid for kiolocate06:35
mvvlarsris: no i would choose dapper since it has a lot fixes that still are present in breezy. Dapper has been even more stable to me than breezy... (?)06:36
_abbenormalit wi\orks great as long as you dont mind working on it06:36
_abbenormalworks06:36
jpetsoRiddell: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/27238 , for the record06:36
UbugtuMalone bug 27238 in kdebase konqueror "Search in about:konqueror disrespects "gg blah" instead of "gg:blah"" [Minor,Rejected] 06:36
jpetsoyeah, right, nasty bot06:37
Riddelljpetso: you are talking about the ber next to "locate: search for local files"?06:37
_abbenormalbut you know you wont know for sure until you at least try06:37
Riddells/ber/bar/06:37
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larsrismw: yes, dapper worked better for me to, but I needed breezy because kbabel06:37
larsris.. that did not run on dapper06:38
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jpetsoRiddell: I think that's what's initially there, it changed to "Google:" at my system when I switched the default search engine06:38
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jpetsoRiddell: the point is that it doesn't follow the option Web Shortcuts -> Keyword delimiter06:39
Riddelljpetso: it doesn't respect any web shortcuts though06:39
jpetsoRiddell: but it uses the default search engine which is a web shortcut itself06:40
clem_yeatsmy network interfaces don't come up when I use the KDE network config application.. anybody got that problem ?06:41
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jpetsoRiddell: and I'd really like to have a space ("locate bla") instead of a colon ("locate:bla") and have the about:konqueror search bar work nevertheless06:41
_abbenormalwhats /etc/network/interface say06:41
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_abbenormalcat /etc/network/interface06:42
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Antartikainterfaces ;)06:42
Riddelljpetso: right, I see what you mean now06:42
_abbenormalsorry06:42
clem_yeats_abbenormal : in #trash ?06:42
jpetsoRiddell: could you please reopen the bug? *lookingverysweet*06:42
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Riddelljpetso: yep, I've set it to Confirmed06:43
clem_yeats_abbenormal : I'll paste it in #trash ...06:43
jpetsoRiddell: thanks06:43
Riddelljpetso: tvo is the dude to fix that, if you see him then give him a poke06:44
jpetsoRiddell: where do I get to see those patches anyway, maybe I could fix it myself06:44
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jpetsoRiddell: I mean, where's the repository for that?06:45
Riddelljpetso: apt-get source kdebase06:45
jpetsoRiddell: ah, ok, thanks06:45
Riddelljpetso: possibly also kdeaddons06:45
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Riddelland it'll be in debian/patches06:46
jpetsoRiddell: (not that I could fetch kdebase with my 56k connection at the moment)06:46
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Tonio_hi everyone06:47
Tonio_Riddell: ping ?06:47
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RiddellTonio_: yo06:49
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Tonio_Riddell: I posted on kubuntu-devel sorry ;)06:49
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mlehrerhas anyone else seem an apt-get upgrade lock up doing this:06:53
mlehrerSetting up udev (079-0ubuntu25) ...06:53
Tonio_mlehrer: it is long, be patient :)06:54
Tonio_took about 2 minutes for me06:54
arcanistheroguewhere is kde installed on kubuntu?06:54
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arcanistherogueSo this seal walks into a club...06:59
mlehrerTonio_: been going for 1/2 hr so far07:00
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mlehrercpu usage 007:01
kkathmanarcanistherogue: ~/.kde07:01
Tonio_mlehrer: sounds a bit long indeed :)07:01
kkathmanarcanistherogue:  at least thats where your settings, personal things are stored, obviously KDE is a large install and many things are in /usr/bin and other libs07:02
arcanistheroguek07:03
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puckmanwow, just changed date and time in flight 6 and when I hit reply the whole screen blinks black07:06
mlehrerTonio_: yeah, seems wedged07:06
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cigahi07:08
cigaI'd like to see a ! sign in my kicker applet if I have updates. What should I do?07:08
mlehrerpuckman: you probably activated the screen saver07:09
DarkEDim having a problem with the multimedia keys on my keyboard07:10
DarkEDwhich file do i need to add the keycodes into?07:10
puckmanmlehrer: thanks, looks like it07:10
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robotgeekciga: are you on breezy?07:10
steveireMy flash player wont play sounds07:11
cigano, dapper07:11
steveireIt's like there's a mute button pressed, but it's not muted.07:11
steveireAny ideas?07:11
robotgeekciga: i think it's called adept notifier07:12
cigarobotgeek: me, too :)07:12
cigaadept_notifier: checking updates status07:12
cigabut nothing happens.07:12
robotgeekciga: it does work for me, so i don't know what's wrong with yours07:12
cigamaybe I should add something to my panel, but I dunno what07:12
cigarobotgeek: I don't have a full install.07:13
cigaI upgraded from breezy.07:13
robotgeekciga: same here07:13
cigaand selected the packages myself.07:13
robotgeekthat i did not do07:13
cigarobotgeek: then you can right click on the applet to check what it is.07:13
robotgeekciga: it appears only when there are updates07:14
cigarobotgeek: I think the applet is running, but does not show anything until there is no updates.07:14
cigais not it?07:15
robotgeekciga: yup07:15
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DarkEDoh well, screw it then07:16
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cigarobotgeek: thanks anyway.07:19
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_lukehi07:30
dagoberthi07:31
rochiya... this seems to be a pretty dead place at the moment... flee! xD07:32
dagobertsemms like it07:32
dagobert*seems07:32
dagobertsome1 experience with mp3 support?07:32
dagobert*in kubuntu07:32
robotgeekdagobert, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:33
dagobertyes i did, i read different pages etc. but i was interested in some personal opinions07:33
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dagobertive tried suse 10 but failed horibly with the mp3 support07:34
dagobertany1?07:35
bert_Are you using kubuntu?07:35
robotgeekdagobert: well, it works07:35
bert_What works? mp3?07:36
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dagobertWELL NOT YET BUT IM THINKING ABOUT IT; IVE JUST DOWNLOADED MANDRAKE07:36
dagobert(sry 4 tghe capitals)07:36
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bert_Well, if youve downloaded mandrake, why are you in  the kubuntu forum?07:37
dagobertin suse it was suposed 2 be easy as well but it didnt proof 2 be07:37
dagobertwell im looking at different options at the moment07:37
dagobertthats y07:38
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bert_Well I've got mp3 working in kubuntu, works in ubuntu too, breezy and I'm using dapper now07:39
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frakiany good guides on iptables through webmin?07:40
puckmandapper rocks07:40
_abbenormalok anyway to fix adept07:40
bert_Well dapper is still only in a testing stage, but I don't have any real problems07:40
puckmanoops07:41
puckmanjust found one07:41
puckmanI cant unzip a file07:41
bert_What's wrong with adept07:41
_abbenormalonly problem i have with it so far is adept is not working07:41
puckman_abbenormal: run adept in terminal once and do an update07:41
_abbenormalok07:41
puckmanafter that adept gui will work07:41
puckmanyou will get an error complaining about a mime type but you can ignore that07:42
bert_I use Synatic07:42
puckmanso, anyone have any problems with extracting zips in dapper?07:42
robotgeeknever, actually07:42
bert_Never tried, I will have to go and have a look07:43
_abbenormalFailed to open device07:43
_abbenormalX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16607:43
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_abbenormalMajor opcode:  14407:43
_abbenormal  Minor opcode:  307:43
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_abbenormalFailed to open device07:43
frakimind if I ask whether anyone knows what I can do to get 5 in 1 card reader working07:43
_abbenormalkapture::PkgSystem::PkgSystem()07:43
_abbenormalThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running07:44
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bert_I use Krusader, it opend a zip file OK07:44
robotgeek_abbenormal, don't paste in here. Please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org07:44
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_abbenormalsorry07:45
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puckmanShame that Gaim 2.0 is not available via adept yet07:45
puckmanwill have to use alien again to convert a rpm07:46
bert_puckman, have you got krusader installed?07:48
ainmosniwhats new in gaim2?07:48
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ainmosni<--- kopete fan07:48
puckmankrusader?07:49
puckmanainmosni: I like Kopete as well but miss a lot of features07:49
puckmanmind you, not tried the latest version yet07:49
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ainmosnilike?07:50
bert_real neat 2 panel file manager, I wouldn't be without it07:50
ainmosnii dunno i never really liked gaim somehow07:50
puckmanbert_: can I get it via adept?07:50
crimsungaim 2.0 isn't even released. how can it be in the repositories?07:50
ainmosnii used center/bitlbee until i saw the newest kopete07:50
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ainmosniwith webcam support07:50
crimsunseb has 2.0 beta 3 debs at deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/deb ./07:51
ainmosnikonq is nice imho07:51
puckmanoooh, kopette in flight 6 looks very different07:51
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ainmosniand afaik you can make it 2 paned07:51
puckmanI miss the finder from osx07:51
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ainmosniheh07:51
bert_puckman, Yes07:51
puckmancollumn view rocks07:51
robotgeekyup, click the navigation panel i guess07:51
ainmosnifinder was the most critizised app of os x07:51
ainmosnimost apple fans hated it07:52
ainmosnidont really know why07:52
ainmosniit did the job07:52
puckmanNot me.07:52
ainmosnibut i love konq as file manager07:52
bert_No, krusader is better as a file manager07:52
ainmosnihavent found anything i liked more07:53
bert_have you tried krusader?07:53
puckmanainmosni: new kopette really looks nice07:53
puckmanwill use it for a few days and see how I fare07:53
ainmosnibert_: not yet, im installing it now07:53
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puckmanhmmm, zipping does not work at all for me in konq07:54
puckmanthat sucks07:54
bert_ainmosni, I think you will like it07:54
bert_with krusader you can switch into root and edit your config files real easy07:55
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bert_well I can open a zip file with krusader OK07:56
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ainmosniheh07:56
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ainmosnikinda weird07:56
ainmosnii always use the shell for that07:56
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ainmosnibut then again07:57
ainmosniim a shell junkie07:57
ainmosninothing beats a well configged zsh07:57
bert_I can open a zip file in konq07:57
ainmosniespecially paired with a good scripting language like perl or ruby07:57
ainmosniheh07:57
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puckmanok, installing krusader07:58
ainmosnii only use konq when i need to sort a large dir by hand07:59
ainmosnior when im gonna play some movies in kaffeine07:59
puckmanI'm one of the new bread of linux users :P07:59
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puckmana normal user :P07:59
ainmosnifor the rest i do all my file management in the shell07:59
ainmosniheh07:59
ainmosniive been using unix/linux for almost 10 years now08:00
ainmosnirelatively new08:00
ainmosniin unix terms08:00
ainmosnithe shell was what made me switch to freebsd and linux from windows in the first place08:00
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ainmosniand now i make my money with it08:01
ainmosniheh08:01
ainmosnijust because i saw a command line which still had its use 10 years ago08:01
puckmanI hope to go there too one day08:02
puckmansick of end user support08:02
bert_why use the shell all the time when there are now easier things to use, that's like using the dos prompt in windows all the time08:02
puckmanhmmm, I think my zip problem is system wide08:02
puckmankrusader also did not want to extract stuff08:02
ainmosnii wouldnt say that a file manager is easier by definition08:02
puckmandamn, I wish it gave me an error I coudl work with08:02
crimsunbert_: there's nothing wrong with preferring the cli. It's all preference.08:02
ainmosnii can do a lot of things a lot faster from the shell08:02
ainmosnicrimsun: exactly08:02
mvvbert_: dos and bash difference _a lot_08:02
ainmosnidos and zsh differ even more ;)08:03
ainmosnialltho i like bash too08:03
ainmosnibut still08:03
crimsunfor instance, I prefer having the option to use gui tools if possible, but I'm historically a cli person, so I work with it far more than gui tools.08:03
h3sp4wncygwin is still the best way to manage a windows server (If you absolutely have to)08:03
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ainmosnirm -rf *.zip~foo.zip08:04
ainmosniwill delete all zips except foo.zip08:04
ainmosnithat takes me longer in a gui08:04
ainmosnia lot ;)08:04
bert_puckman, i've got infozip installed, try that08:04
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lekuhola08:05
ainmosnibut if i have to sort music or movies by hand08:05
puckmanzip error: Nothing to do! (test.zip)08:05
ainmosnia graphical file manager beats the shell08:05
puckmanhow weird08:05
lekui just installed 6.06, but I really wanted to try gnome08:05
lekuwhat am I to do now?08:05
ainmosnileku: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop08:05
puckmantest is a dir with a file in it08:05
lekugood shit08:05
lekuthanks man08:05
robotgeekleku: sudo apttitude install ubuntu-desktop08:05
robotgeekleku: if you don't like it, you can remove it with aptitude again08:05
lekui did apt-get08:06
lekunot fam. with aptitude08:06
lekuoh man i am so happy to be back using *ubuntu08:06
ainmosniit both works08:06
ainmosnibert_: and it might help that im a fast typist08:06
lekui owned myself by upgrading from breezy badger to whatever the latest was a few months ago, and my whole system just sucked ass08:06
lekuso I tried SuSe 1008:06
lekuso slowwwwwwww08:06
puckmanok, anyone have a mo to help me with my zip problem :(08:07
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lekuwhat is your deal with .zip08:07
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puckmandont work08:07
puckmanI cant zip up or unzip08:07
puckmanin shell or konq08:07
ainmosnidid you install 'zip' and 'unzip' ?08:08
ainmosnithe shell tools08:08
bert_install infozip like i just said08:08
ainmosninyway08:08
ainmosnifood08:08
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cigapuckman: for me, it was opened in ark08:08
ainmosniark works when you habe the shell tools zip and unzip08:08
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ainmosnizip isnt that bad08:09
bert_I got a program in zip the other day so it was handy for that08:09
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lekuI understand you might need it for something08:10
lekubut I hope you're not going out of your way to use it08:10
bert_i donhave to use it much but it was handy when i needed it08:10
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puckman"the application Ark (ark) crashed and caused the signal 6 (SIGABRT)"08:12
bert_I just used ark and it worked ok08:12
puckmanlol08:13
puckmanI know it works ok08:13
puckmanit works fine on the 3 other computers I have kubuntu on08:13
puckmanjust dont work on this install08:13
bert_puckman did you install infozip?08:13
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puckmanainmosni: I did something silly in kopette, I hid the menu, how do I get it back?08:13
cigapuckman: maybe you should run konqueror from the konsole to see its messages.08:14
lekui just had an ephinany that kubuntu maybe just as good or better than osx08:14
puckmanah ctrl m08:14
puckmangot it back08:14
bert_play hide and seek, the menu might come and find you08:14
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puckmanleku: I sold my powerbook after I played with Kubuntu08:14
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lekureally08:15
puckmanYup08:15
cigabert_: watching to much movie? :)08:15
lekuI don't feel bad about not owning osx now08:15
puckmanI bought an old old IBM thinkpad to have a 'play' with this thing called linux08:16
lekucan't wait until someone writes a collaborative editor similar to the one for osx08:16
lekusubethaedit08:16
puckman1 month of 'playing' later and I sold my powerbook08:16
lekuha08:16
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lekuwell08:16
lekui'm not here to play really08:16
lekui use ubuntu cuz it helps me do my job08:16
ainmosnii thought that irc was multiplayer notepad08:16
ainmosni;)08:16
lekuyep08:16
ciga:)08:16
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lekuis there anything useful in edubuntu?08:17
robotgeekleku: http://mateedit.sourceforge.net/08:17
lekuconsidering that I'm not a student08:17
bert_leku, do you like kde or gnome?08:17
lekuI am a kde user installing gnome right now08:17
lekuhistorically i've used no kde/gnome at all, and then I tried breezy badger about 6 months ago and started using KDE08:18
lekugnome was a little slow08:18
lekubut I've heard it's better now, and beagle looks like it actually works08:18
lekucompared to the KDE garbage known as kat08:18
ainmosnikat sucks :(08:18
lekukat is a joke08:18
ainmosnionly thing gnome has that kde doesnt08:19
bert_I had both installed in breezy, there was some things in gnome I liked that wasn't in kde, but I only have kde in dapper08:19
ainmosniheh08:19
lekuwell matedit looks like a start08:19
lekusubethaedit still seems way better08:19
ainmosnibtw, whats the fav script language around here?08:20
lekuperl 8)08:20
ainmosniheh, used to be perl here08:20
lekuthat's really subjective tho08:20
ainmosninow im in love with ruby08:20
lekui am forbidden to use anything else08:20
ainmosnihow so?08:20
lekusupport issues08:20
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lekuI'm really the only perl coder in the group, a few people can read or write simple scripts08:21
lekuif I switched to python or ruby they'd kill/fire me08:21
ainmosniah k08:21
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ainmosnilol08:21
ainmosnione can code perl at work08:21
lekui don't code for fun08:21
ainmosniand learn ruby for fun08:21
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ainmosnii do sometimes08:21
lekui play counter strike and xbox 360 and poker for fun 8)08:21
ainmosniheh08:21
ainmosnii go out clubbing for fun as well08:21
ainmosni;)08:21
lekui'm too old for that08:21
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leku25 in a week08:22
ainmosniill be 25 this year as well ;)08:22
_james!wine08:22
chavo25 is not too old for anything08:22
ainmosniwhich is a normal age for clubbing here ;)08:22
ainmosniindeed08:22
ainmosni25 is young08:22
lekui stopped going to clubs after I could legally drink in them 8)08:22
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ainmosnilol08:23
ainmosniamerican?08:23
ainmosni;)08:23
bert_you think 25 is old, wait till you get to double that, if the world is still around then08:23
lekuyes08:23
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lekui'm 2508:23
chavoyeah I drank more before I was 21 also08:23
lekuhave a kid almost 2 yr old08:23
ainmosnidutchman here08:23
lekui have no business in a club08:23
ainmosniah i dont have a kid, dont want one for at least 5 more years08:23
lekugood man08:23
ainmosnimy gf might try and talk me into getting one sooner tho08:24
ainmosnilol08:24
chavoWell I play in a band so I have to go to  clubs08:24
robotgeek!+offtopic08:24
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!08:24
ainmosniheh08:24
robotgeekerr, #kubuntu-offtopic08:24
ainmosnihahah08:24
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|lostbyte|When there is a change in one od the ubuntu projects will all the projects take effect, or are they treated diffrently.. ?08:24
chavoyeah guys stop flooding the channel08:24
robotgeek|lostbyte|: meaning?08:25
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ainmosniexcuses08:25
chavo|lostbyte|, only the desktop is different between each version08:25
MacAnthonyrobotgeek is all about business :)08:25
robotgeekMacAnthony: gotta keep the peace08:25
|lostbyte|chavo: only desktop ! Ok.. i think that answered it.08:25
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chavoIn fact you can install all the desktops in either project08:26
|lostbyte|chavo: So i'll take ubuntu as the main site ?08:26
MacAnthonyI understand, robotgeek, I just don't mind OT conversations as long as they aren't offending or getting in the way of the channel topic08:26
chavofor support and stuff yeah08:26
MacAnthonyrules are rules though08:27
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tbhi, as anybody successfully installed the new nvidia drivers in kubuntu (am using NVIDIA GeForce GO7400 on Dual core viao laptop - gfx drivers don't work)08:27
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tbsorry, has anybody etc... :-)08:27
chavotb i have 87756 but I'm running dapper08:28
chavo875608:28
chavoman my keyboard has been repeating characters, don't know if it's a bug or it's just dirrty08:28
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tbI've got a fresh kubuntu install, but the gfx corrupts ~1 minute into desktop usage. Nvidia have just released the latest drivers, but they're not packaged yet. Have tried to compile source, but something (don't know what) is missing from my dev env :-(08:29
robotgeek!nvidia08:29
ubotunvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736808:29
tbchavo, I'd suspect a dirty keyboard before bug.08:29
tbubotu. Thanks, will examine08:29
chavotb,  do you hhavee ttroubles wwith the oldder  versionn?08:30
tbchavo yes.08:30
tbInstalls wonderfully, but corrupts beautifully also (looks like 3d-stereogram image in each window :-)08:31
chavook I misread your question08:31
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chavoso you're on breezy08:32
chavo?08:32
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tbquestion is regarding the installation of the new drivers (NVIDIA forums state that the older linux drivers didn't work with this card). I was/am using the latest iso (can't remember name, will have to reboot to check - in windoze, ugh)08:32
chavono don't reboot08:33
tbkubuntu 5-10-i38608:33
chavojust cat /etc/issue08:33
tbcan't cat /etc/ as win doesn't read reiserfs :-(08:34
chavook08:34
chavoI misread again, sorry08:34
puckmanok, interesting tar does work08:34
puckmanjust zip that dont08:34
tbIt's really irritating me, as I can't really get on with the rest of the config/setup without a decent sized xterm :-(08:34
chavoDoes it build at all?08:35
puckmanJust installed gnome for the hell of it08:35
puckman:P08:35
tbI suppose that a better phrasing of the question would be something along the lines of: When are the new NVIDIA binaries going to be packaged for Kubuntu? :-)08:35
chavoWell they're packaged already but only for dapper drake.08:36
tb?dapper drake?)08:36
chavothe next release of kubuntu08:36
chavoIt's still about 2 months away though08:37
tbOk. which packages do I need to apt-get to properly set up the dev env to compile the nvidia drivers via their utility? Any idea?08:37
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chavotb, build-essential linux-headers08:39
trappistlinux-headers-$(uname -r)08:40
_jameshey guys any one know how to get on msn chatroom>08:40
lekuuse gaim08:41
tbCheers. I think it's time for a reboot and nth attempt to get this working... Thanks everybody08:41
lekui think08:41
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puckmanI get 1fps with glxgears :(08:43
puckmanOnly distro that semes to work fine is suse08:43
puckmanbut it sucks08:43
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cigarobotgeek: I can see it now.08:52
cigaI mean the adept notifier.08:52
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jeeklHey, I'm having problems playing a wmv-file. I have all the req. codecs installed and working, but I'm guessing this could be a too new file and my codecs need some updating?08:54
jeeklOr is wmv10 not viewable on nix?08:55
Aikurnif the file has drm control, it won't play08:55
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jeeklIm guessing it dosen't. A friend of mine made it and sent it to me.08:55
jeeklThe sound plays, but no video08:55
method|is there any way to change the konqueror font to be just like internet explorers default font?08:56
mvv_zZzjeekl: ask him to make an ogg theora video08:56
method|i have all the windows fonts installed08:56
method|but it just doesnt render right08:56
jeeklmvv_zZz: That is out of his reach ;-) He barely got the file into his computer.08:57
chavomethod|, it will never render exactly like in windows08:57
method|:(08:58
method|anything comes close?08:58
chavowhich font is it?08:58
method|it kinda bothers me08:58
method|it's quite ugly08:58
method|maybe im just used to the windows font08:58
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chavomethod|, which font?08:58
method|im using arial now08:59
method|i've tried tahoma08:59
method|ive tried times new roman08:59
chavoI use bitsream vera sans for evrything08:59
method|just doesnt look right08:59
chavohttp://2sdw.com/images/4-16.jpg08:59
chavojust need to tweak your antialising settings09:00
method|not loading up09:00
method|how do i play with my antialiasing settings?09:00
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Broxtorany idea in which repository I can find the w32codecs for dapper? I can't find them in universe or multiverse.09:01
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Aikurn!codecs09:01
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories09:01
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OdyXWondering if someone uses Kmail and GPG (decryption too).09:04
Broxtorubotu: thanks for the pointer, but I don't seem to be able to find that !easysource thing09:05
ubotugraag gedaan, Broxtor09:05
Aikurn!easysource09:06
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic09:06
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AikurnBroxtor: visit that site and you'll find repositories for codecs and other restricted packages09:07
uniqodyx: i use kmail with gpg.09:07
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BroxtorAikurn: Already looking at it and I like it ;-) Thank you very much.09:07
OdyXuniq: And do you decrypt too ?09:07
uniqyes.09:08
OdyXuniq: I'm trying to be able to decrypt EASILY...09:08
AikurnBroxtor: :)09:08
OdyXuniq: how have you made ?09:08
uniqit is easy. i type my password and it is done automagically.09:08
Otherlandhi there... this might be aq silly question..but how do I remove gnome under kubuntu... I didn't like it that much..so I want to clean up my menues and remove gnome09:08
OdyXuniq: no config at all ?09:08
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uniqpinentry-program /usr/bin/pinentry-qt09:09
OtherlandI tried sudo apt-get remove gnome, but that only removes about 50Kb09:09
uniqin ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf09:09
OdyXuniq: OK...09:09
uniqthat's all i have done, as far as i can remember.09:09
lekuhey09:09
lekuhow do I get the latest mozilla?09:10
OdyXuniq: don't you have anything in ~/.kde/Autostart ?09:10
AikurnOtherland: I'm no expert in any way, but you may want to uninstall ubuntu-desktop09:10
OtherlandAikurn: that makes sense.. I'll check it out..thanks09:10
uniqodyx: no. kmail does everything.. except the pinentry-qt thing. that's done with pinentry-qt (apt-get install pinentry-qt)09:10
OdyXuniq: you can sign, encrypt and decrypt ?09:11
AikurnOtherland: no problem, just be careful :)09:11
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uniqaikurn, otherland: removing ubuntu-desktop will just remove like 50k too. you'll have to remove something else. search ubuntuforums.org for 'remove gnome'.09:11
uniqodyx: yes, that i enable in kmail settings.09:12
Otherlanduniq: yeah I just noticed... thanks for the tip :)09:12
OdyXuniq: could you detail me the packets you have installed (related to gnupg) ?09:12
OdyXgnupg & kgpg uniq ?09:13
uniqodyx: gnupg gnupg-agent gnupg2 python-gnupginterface pinentry-qt (quick search, could be more)09:14
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uniqodyx: yes, kgpg too.09:14
OdyXuniq: OK... So you have gnupg2 ....09:14
OdyXand agent...09:14
OdyXcould you check if you have an gnupg-agent running ?09:15
uniq11055 ?        Ss     0:00 gpg-agent --daemon09:15
uniqi have.09:15
uniqi can check where i start it too :)09:15
lekuhow do I get mozilla 1.5.0.209:15
OdyXuniq: that would be fine.09:15
method|man, konqueror and firefox are rendering fonts terribly09:15
method|they aren't clear at all09:15
h3sp4wnleku: download it from mozilla.org unpack it into /opt09:16
uniqodyx: can find it right now, not .xsession, not KDE's Autostart.. and i have to go smoke with my girlfriend now. Did you try to search google/ubuntuforms ? I can try to get back to you later.09:17
uniqcan't09:18
OdyXuniq: if you could make it when you have time and then mail: didier AT raboud.com09:18
OdyXuniq: would be VERY fine !09:18
lekuI know how to do it manually09:18
lekujust thought there was a deb package09:18
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OdyXuniq: I'm gon' eat too... Seeya later.09:19
lekui thought there ware a whole shitload of security fixes09:19
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vgehmm, who else hate that kate "backup save" option is enabled by default?09:21
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|lostbyte|Do you guys know a torrent file and support file selection ?09:22
|lostbyte|and/that*09:22
|lostbyte|argh ! file/client*09:23
Aikurnktorrent09:23
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Aikurngood news09:28
mvv_zZzyeah, i use 1.2DV and 1.3DV for some months now, it really getting better and better09:29
Aikurndoes it support non centralized trackers (don't know the tecnical name, sorry)?09:30
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|lostbyte|Aikurn: Thanks, will try it soon..09:32
Aikurnhope you like it :)09:33
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mvv_zZzAikurn: 1.2 doesn't, 1.3develop does09:36
mvv_zZzAikurn: but still experimental though09:36
Aikurnok, thanks09:37
PupenoWhat do I need to install to get Kontact/Kmail to decipher PGP encrypted mails that are sent as MIME something (not in-line) ?09:38
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yonkeltronis there any reason for a keyboard to fail to work after logging in?09:42
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vgeyonkeltron: i guess you know it should not do that :)09:43
yonkeltronvge: indeed09:43
yonkeltronvge: any ideas?09:44
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yonkeltronit works fine to log in09:44
vgeweard if it works in kdm09:44
yonkeltronand switching to a virtual terminal works09:44
yonkeltronyeah09:44
yonkeltronhe can bring up a run dialog09:45
yonkeltronand ctrl-alt-backspace09:45
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yonkeltronbut he can't type into *any* application09:45
vgereally weard09:45
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NoUseis this a USB or PS2 keyboard?09:46
yonkeltronps209:46
NoUsehmm09:46
yonkeltronwould a USB keyboard offer some advantage here?09:46
NoUseyonkeltron no I've just had problems similar to this with USB keyboards09:47
yonkeltronNoUse: how did you solve it?09:47
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ZenethianWhy in the world would amarok not be able to play mp3 players?09:48
vgecould kcontrol>Keyboard Layout be any help?09:48
yonkeltronvge: how so?09:48
Zenethianerr mp3 files?09:48
Zenethianit plays ogg files just fine, but no mp3 files.09:48
robotgeekZenethian, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:48
Zenethianaah09:48
Zenethianthanks.09:48
NoUseyonkeltron I think it involved changing the legacy keyboard settings in the BIOS09:49
NoUseyonkeltron but it was a long time ago09:49
yonkeltronNoUse: oh shit....09:49
yonkeltroni can't get to this bios09:49
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yonkeltronso i need some ideas09:59
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yonkeltronhe can alt-f2 a run dialog into existance09:59
yonkeltronbut he can't type into applications09:59
yonkeltronwhy would typing into applications not work randomly?10:01
|lostbyte|Is'nt there the latest version of firefox in apt-get ?10:02
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robotgeek|lostbyte|: breezy?10:02
vge1.5.0.1 in dapper10:03
|lostbyte|robotgeek: yes.10:03
robotgeek|lostbyte|, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion10:03
|lostbyte|robotgeek: reading..10:04
|lostbyte|tx..10:05
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gislanhello everyone10:23
gislanI've just installed kubuntu 5.10 on my laptop, but I'm unable to run any applications via ssh -X10:23
gislanI get 'can't open display localhost:13' error message and I've got no idea what's going on10:23
gislanI guess it's something with kdm / xauth, anyone got any idea what could be wrong?10:24
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larsrisI'm about to install dapper on a new PC with Windows Xp. I HAVE to make a dual boot, and keep the XP intact, only resized.10:27
larsrisI know from before that SUSE does this resizing safely. Does Dapper?10:27
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noteventimelarsris, You might consider trying Partition Magic ...10:44
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larsrisnoteventime: thanks!10:46
noteventime:) It10:46
noteventime's not free though10:46
noteventimeI'm afraid10:46
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noteventimeDon't know if there are any free NTFS resizers10:46
Snake[Away] noteventime: gparted10:46
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noteventimeIt can resize NTFS "lossless" now Snake[Away] ?10:47
noteventimeDidn't know that. Havn't used it for a long time10:47
noteventimeback in my gentoo days :D10:47
Snake[Away] noteventime: Im not sure what you mean by lossless, but I have used it on several accounts without issue (ubuntu live CD)10:47
Snake[Away] noteventime: its only messed up my HDD once, but that was because my damn disk drive lost power, I wont blame that on gparted :)10:48
noteventimeWithout loosing any data on it10:48
Snake[Away] Yulp10:48
noteventime:D10:48
noteventimeWithout loosing any data put there by the user :)10:48
Snake[Away] noteventime: I believe it HAS to now, because the new dapper installer on the live disk (expresso) will auto resize window partitions for you10:48
Snake[Away] If it still screwed up NTFS, dapper would be in for a mighty large rant10:49
Snake[Away] hehe10:49
noteventime:D haha, true10:49
noteventimehavn't used expresso10:49
Snake[Away] I have, its still buggy10:49
Snake[Away] sometimes grub doesnt like to install (thats the main bug ive found) - supposedly fixed in Dapper Beta (anything after flight 6)10:50
Snake[Away] Anywho im off to the shower, best of luck to all who need support in here!10:51
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yuriyi "finally" got the kde/cups problem :(10:53
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yuriy...or not10:54
yuriywtf10:54
yuriystupid kcontrol10:54
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wsjuniorhow to make kaffeine to use mplayer engine?11:00
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wsjuniorhow to make kaffeine to use mplayer engine?11:09
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yonkeltronok i figured out part of the problem with my keyboard...anyone around from earlier?11:15
yonkeltronNoUse: SYN11:15
yonkeltronvge: SYN11:15
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Riddellwsjunior: it can't11:16
wsjuniori used to do that with my older distribution11:17
wsjuniorRiddell: just by compilind mplayer and kaffeine after.. so it used to appear to be selected as kaffeine engine11:18
wsjunior*compiling11:18
wsjuniorRiddell: do u mean that it can't be done in kubuntu?11:19
Snake[Away] wsjunior: hes saying kaffine wont accept mplayer as a engine perhaps?11:20
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Riddellwsjunior: kaffeine has no mplayer plugin, you might be thinking of kmplayer11:21
Riddellor even kplayer11:21
Snake[Away] kmplayer ftw11:21
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NoUseyonkeltron hey11:21
NoUseyonkeltron what was the issue?11:21
Snake[Away] Riddell: I seen your interview, do any other photos of you exist aside from that one you have on your homepage?? :D11:21
Riddelljriddell.org/photos11:22
yonkeltronNoUse: i think it's a threshold issue11:22
Snake[Away] Riddell: heh, it was a joke, it just seen it was the same one :)11:22
Riddellbut most of those aren't suitable for mugshots :)11:22
yonkeltronNoUse: when we hold down the key...it works fine...but the delay is wierd11:22
Snake[Away] nice11:22
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yonkeltronNoUse: i messed with the delay settings but there is a delay between me pushing a key and it showing up on the screen when in KDE11:23
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Snake__http://jriddell.org/photos/tef-jonathan-timfromdownunder-hogmanay-02-03.jpg FTW!11:23
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RiddellSnake__: FTW?11:24
rohanhi all.. when is the next flight release scheduled ?11:24
Snake__Riddell: for the win ;)11:24
wsjuniorisn't there a kmplayer package for kubuntu?11:24
Riddellrohan: never!11:24
rohanRiddell: what ?! flight7 is the last flight ?11:24
Riddellrohan: we have seen the very light ever flight in flight 611:24
Snake__rohan: They released a flight 7??11:24
Riddellrohan: beta out this week, final one in a month11:24
Snake__Oooooo betaaa11:24
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rohanSnake__: err, my bad, i mean flight611:24
yonkeltronNoUse: any ideas?11:24
rohanwoooooooooowwwwwwwww beta !11:25
Snake__Riddell: Kubuntu dapper has teh expresso correcto?11:25
RiddellSnake__: yes11:25
yonkeltronSnake__: it might..check the wiki11:25
Snake__is it hidden?11:25
RiddellSnake__: until today it was yes11:25
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Snake__Riddell: ahhhh okay11:26
NoUseyonkeltron not off the top of my head11:26
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yonkeltronNoUse: what could cause a key threshol error like that?11:26
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NoUseyonkeltron the only thing I could think of is accessibility settings, like sticky keys11:26
_jeff_sup gangsters11:26
NoUsebut I don' tkow11:26
rohanhmm.. can i request qt4 packages to be updated to qt4 4.1.2 ? dapper atm has 4.1.0 and as it is, qt4 upgrade wont break any packages as such11:26
_jeff_does anybody use kget?11:26
yonkeltronNoUse: AH!11:27
NoxionAlright Im a complete n00b with kubuntu and linux in general so I need help :\11:27
NoxionI used the live cd to see how it would fare on my system11:27
Noxionbut I cant get the net working :11:27
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rohanerrr.. i mean, i _can_ request, but what chance would the request have, of being implemented ? i.e. qt4 being upgraded from 4.1.0 to 4.1.2 ?11:28
yonkeltronNoUse: slow keys was engaged!11:28
NoxionI manually enter my IP and submask11:28
yonkeltrongarrr!11:28
NoxionBut the gateway wont stay after I enter it11:28
NoUseyonkeltron see? It's not a glitch, its a feature :-)11:28
NoxionThen I managed to make the gateway stay by entering sudo route add default gw xxxxxxxx11:28
NoxionBUt my net still doesnt stay :\11:28
NoxionErr11:28
Noxionwork rather11:28
rohanRiddell: what chance would the request to update qt4 to 4.1.2 have, of being implemented ?11:29
_jeff_kmon guys11:29
_jeff_sombody must use kget11:29
rohan_jeff_: nah, all gurus use wget :P11:29
_jeff_rohan:wget you say11:29
_jeff_rohan: hmm11:29
rohanyes.11:29
NoxionHelp me?11:29
BigBadBenI used wget :)11:29
_jeff_hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm11:29
rohanwhat is the problem with kget anyway, _jeff_ /11:30
_jeff_rohan: i was just wondering what the floating arrow on the page was for11:30
Noxion:(11:31
Riddellrohan: should be possible if someone does it11:32
rohanRiddell: oh, ok11:33
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eduardohi everybody11:34
eduardoc guys...11:35
eduardoi am new at this stuff11:35
NoxionI tried already and got no answer :\11:35
eduardoi am trying to config some stuff and modify some files but i cant because i need the superuser login11:35
robotgeekubotu: tell eduardo about root11:36
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eduardowhen i want to change the sudo passwd it sends me a message that says: sudo unable to look up ubuntu via gethostbyname()11:36
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eduardoany possible solutions?11:38
MasterWolfcan some one help me. i get Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_file'. each time i logon11:38
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MasterWolfCAN SOMEONE HELP11:40
rohanwhy do most bug reporting systems ask you to keep a bug confidentional if it exposes a security probem ?11:40
rohanMasterWolf: not if you shout anyway11:40
MasterWolfok11:40
Riddellrohan: because if there's a security issue we don't want the world to know about it untl there is a fix out11:40
rohanRiddell: but whats the problem, even if the world knows about it before a fix is out ?11:41
rohani mean, even they can help11:41
Riddellrohan: because then evil parts of the world can write cracking scripts and take over the good parts of the world11:42
rohanRiddell: oh, ok, i get your point :)11:42
rohanRiddell: btw, qt4 upgrade request is but #40069 :)11:43
rohanwtf, i cannot add comments on launchpad .. its timing out :S11:44
me2winrohan: I will defend you from Sauron...11:46
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MasterWolfmind helping me please11:48
me2winMasterWolf: whats up11:48
MasterWolfi get Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_file'. each time i logon11:48
MasterWolfand whene i try to get online i get Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'11:50
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_tylerI just installed KDE for Ubuntu and I'm tryin to get to know it... but I somehow made my icons when im file browsing TINY.  How do i fix em?11:50
_tylerI defaulted all of my icon sizes...11:50
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me2winMasterWolf: im not completely sure, try asking in #ubunt11:51
me2win#ubuntu11:51
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MacAnthonyor more likely try #kde11:52
NoUsemzinz in Konqeuror : View -> Icon Size11:52
mzinzNoUse: where is View11:53
NoUseon the menu bar11:53
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uniqmasterwolf: is this dapper or breezy?11:53
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fjellrev1Anyone know if its possible to assign a command to a key or mouse button?12:01
dagobert? like a shutdown -a now command12:02
dagobert*g*12:02
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Crashoveridehye all I need to know how to make Ark, unpack .rar files anyone nkow?12:04
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wsjuniorCrashoveride: install unrar12:04

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