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| BenC | zedd_: apt-get build-dep linux-source-2.6.15 | 12:39 |
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| munzir | Hi, I downloaded http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/20060411/dapper-dvd-amd64.iso and it gave me a root prompt after this error: kernel direct mapping tables upto ffff810100000000 @ .... can't access tty; job control turned off. | 11:03 |
| munzir | can I do anything other than downloading another image? | 11:03 |
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| jmg | hi all | 12:58 |
| jmg | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kernel-package/+bug/39948/+index | 12:58 |
| jmg | straight to the top | 12:59 |
| jmg | :) | 12:59 |
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| jmg | hi ppd | 01:09 |
| ppd | hi! If somebody could give me a hint for what package I should file a bug for, I'd be very thankful: Whenever I record TV (bttv -> Leatek Winfast TV2000 XP) via streamer it may happen that the xserver simply restarts oder even the whole system freezes. I got several segfaults in other programs after that. the xserver runs with nvidia. May this be bttv related? | 01:10 |
| ppd | hi jmg | 01:10 |
| jmg | ppd: could be, are you using v4l? | 01:11 |
| jmg | oh bttv... hmm | 01:11 |
| ppd | I think so | 01:11 |
| jmg | ppd: probably userspace.. kernel panic? | 01:11 |
| ppd | overlay mode worked once but doesn't anymore. another mystery | 01:11 |
| jmg | bizarro | 01:12 |
| jmg | possibly best to file against nvidia-glx? does it happen with nv? | 01:12 |
| ppd | that streamer issue? | 01:12 |
| jmg | yeah | 01:13 |
| jmg | segfault sounds fun | 01:13 |
| jmg | any kernel panic/oops? | 01:13 |
| ppd | panics? no. just either a freeze or a xserver restart | 01:14 |
| ppd | the whole tv watching/recording thing doesn't work well | 01:15 |
| jmg | can you sysrq? | 01:15 |
| jmg | or ssh in form another machine? | 01:15 |
| jmg | from* | 01:15 |
| ppd | sysrq? | 01:15 |
| jmg | magic sysrq key | 01:16 |
| jmg | sysrq-k | 01:16 |
| ppd | ok | 01:18 |
| ppd | If I get that freeze again I'll use that key combination. But what shall I do if only the xserver restarts? | 01:18 |
| jmg | read the log output, dmesg | 01:20 |
| jmg | try and get debugging info from the xserver | 01:20 |
| jmg | strace output | 01:21 |
| ppd | ok. | 01:21 |
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| ppd | hi jmg | 01:53 |
| ppd | I had a complete freeze after having set zapping to overlay mode | 01:54 |
| ppd | I was completely unable to save the dmesg output | 01:55 |
| fabbione | ppd: remove nvidia and check if it is still aproblem. | 01:55 |
| fabbione | a tained kernel with binary drivers is undebuggable | 01:55 |
| ppd | ok. back in a minute | 01:56 |
| fabbione | jmg: could you please stop posting bugs in here..? | 01:56 |
| fabbione | do you know that our kernel-package already had xen? | 01:56 |
| jmg | fabbione: did you know that it needs to be updated to support 3.0.2? ARCH=xen is no longer a valid target | 01:57 |
| fabbione | and that the new series in debian (10.X) was almost rewritten from scratch and that what they are doing is readding things from 0? | 01:57 |
| fabbione | ah ok | 01:57 |
| jmg | i was afraid of that. | 01:57 |
| fabbione | well anyway dapper+1 business | 01:57 |
| jmg | manoj did it for me for etch | 01:57 |
| jmg | i'll compare his approach with ubuntus | 01:57 |
| fabbione | it's still a wishlist.. | 01:58 |
| jmg | tbh when i looked at it my first instinct was to rewrite the whole thing in rake | 01:58 |
| jmg | fabbione nonsense | 01:58 |
| fabbione | we can't sync kernel-package from Debian | 01:58 |
| jmg | ill support it myself if i have to | 01:58 |
| jmg | ok | 01:58 |
| jmg | thanks | 01:58 |
| fabbione | kernel-package is specific to the kernel build system | 01:58 |
| jmg | i know what kernel-package is | 01:58 |
| fabbione | and we can't rework our build system to just use debian one | 01:58 |
| jmg | okay | 01:59 |
| fabbione | so a sync is not doable | 01:59 |
| fabbione | but | 01:59 |
| jmg | the xen stuff is doable | 01:59 |
| fabbione | if you can workout a patch on top our kernel-package | 01:59 |
| jmg | yeah thats what im looking at tomorrow | 01:59 |
| fabbione | then it is easier to get it in | 01:59 |
| jmg | but i hate makefiles | 01:59 |
| jmg | and i want to rewrite it all to rake | 01:59 |
| jmg | rather than deal with makefile voodoo | 01:59 |
| fabbione | have fun with that | 02:00 |
| jmg | no | 02:00 |
| jmg | it is a horrible task | 02:00 |
| jmg | a meaningless task | 02:00 |
| jmg | makefiles are just such rubbish | 02:00 |
| jmg | i suppose i could start from scratch though | 02:00 |
| jmg | :-) | 02:00 |
| jmg | yay | 02:06 |
| jmg | ... | 02:06 |
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| zul | heylo | 02:08 |
| makx | fabbione: you once added an klibc sparc patch patch | 02:08 |
| makx | he has no desc and no changelog entry | 02:09 |
| makx | i would like to get it pushed upstream | 02:09 |
| makx | if you can remember which bug you were hunting that would be great | 02:09 |
| makx | fabbione: speaking of 03-sparc-fix-paths.diff | 02:09 |
| makx | in klibc source | 02:09 |
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| ppd | hello again. nvidia-glx seems to cause my problems | 02:10 |
| ppd | with nv overlay mode works perfectly and the recordings are far better | 02:11 |
| ppd | no error so far | 02:11 |
| jmg | what needs to happen is we need to support a subarch of i386 called xen | 02:11 |
| jmg | ppd: i knew it, post about it in nvidia forums.. | 02:11 |
| zul | mmmm.....placenta http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16958010%26method=full%26siteid=94762%26headline=exclusive--tom-chews-name_page.htm | 02:11 |
| jmg | make-kpkg --arch i386 --subarch xen | 02:14 |
| jmg | --arch i386 target is not affected | 02:14 |
| zul | isnt it a bit late in the release cylce for xen? | 02:15 |
| jmg | zul: yes but i want to support it seperately when dapper comes out (not in main) | 02:15 |
| jmg | not even when dapper beta comes out :) | 02:17 |
| zul | still i dont think there is much you can do about it right now | 02:17 |
| jmg | zul: not in the main make-kpkg it sounds like :( | 02:18 |
| jmg | zul: i will provide an alternative to make-kpkg | 02:18 |
| jmg | zul: since ubuntu-kernel are not willing to support xen at this time | 02:18 |
| jmg | thanks a | 02:18 |
| jmg | thanks all* | 02:18 |
| zul | jmg: knock yourself out | 02:18 |
| jmg | zul: converting the makefiles to rake seems like a good waste of time to me | 02:19 |
| jmg | zul: and a pointless rdepend of rake sounds like fun too | 02:19 |
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| jmg | http://arch.debian.org/cgi-bin/archzoom.cgi/srivasta@debian.org--etch/kernel-package--devel--9.0--patch-143?log | 03:02 |
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| fabbione | makx: i don't remember.. let me check | 03:43 |
| fabbione | makx: oh that one.. man dude... if you need an explanation for that one... | 03:46 |
| fabbione | but yes.. it should go upstream | 03:46 |
| fabbione | assuming new upstream still need it | 03:46 |
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| fabbione | BenC: what can we do to help you hunting down #34065 ? | 06:00 |
| BenC | fabbione: I need some sort of scsiparm or smart output on these things so I can see what I am looking for | 06:02 |
| fabbione | BenC: sure... | 06:02 |
| fabbione | tell me exactly what cmd line you want | 06:03 |
| fabbione | or otherwise send me your ssh key :) | 06:03 |
| makx | fabbione: yeah bash me :-P | 06:04 |
| makx | ;) | 06:04 |
| BenC | hdparm -I /dev/sda > hdparm.txt | 06:04 |
| BenC | Also: hdaparm -C /dev/sda | 06:06 |
| BenC | Also, see if "hdparm -S 0 /dev/sda" disables the spindown | 06:08 |
| fabbione | BenC: people.u.c/~fabbione/hdparm.txt and hdparm2.txt | 06:08 |
| fabbione | yes i can try that too | 06:08 |
| fabbione | setting standby to 0 (off) | 06:09 |
| fabbione | and disks did spin up again | 06:09 |
| fabbione | i will be able to see if they stop again later | 06:09 |
| BenC | your sda is in standby mode | 06:09 |
| BenC | and hdh is active/idle | 06:09 |
| BenC | standby may be a default mode | 06:10 |
| BenC | this may require that the ubuntu-server metapackage (or whatever it is) sets -S 0 for all drives | 06:10 |
| fabbione | hdh is not idle because i am downloading stuff on it :) | 06:11 |
| fabbione | and we need to get this fixed n the kernel | 06:11 |
| BenC | makes sense :) | 06:11 |
| fabbione | it's a regression from .12 | 06:11 |
| fabbione | i can't even think of how much time it would take to my system to boot if i had to issue hdparm -S 0 /dev/ for the 34 scsi disks in the SAN | 06:12 |
| fabbione | because i got a SAN up and running.. | 06:12 |
| zul | a couple of minutes :) | 06:12 |
| Mithrandir | you can probably do that in parallell though? | 06:13 |
| fabbione | well we know what's the IOCTL | 06:13 |
| fabbione | can't we just check why the default has been changed in the kernel? or why it did start spinning down all of a sudden? | 06:13 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: yes but come on.. | 06:14 |
| fabbione | what about hotplugged devices | 06:14 |
| fabbione | this has to be something more dinamyc than just boot | 06:14 |
| BenC | fabbione: One thing you can test is -21, since it pulled in some libata-acpi stuff that might help with this | 06:14 |
| BenC | does it only affect sata? | 06:15 |
| fabbione | nope also normal ATA | 06:15 |
| Mithrandir | fabbione: udev rule, then | 06:15 |
| fabbione | it's kind of scary to hear a raid5 spinning down and up | 06:15 |
| BenC | fabbione: doing it at boot wont take that long since all the disks will be spun up already | 06:15 |
| BenC | guessing it will take all of 5 seconds at most | 06:15 |
| fabbione | why don't we just fix where it should be fixed? :) | 06:16 |
| fabbione | also | 06:16 |
| fabbione | there is one major thing | 06:16 |
| fabbione | how do we tell the boot that it is a server install? | 06:16 |
| fabbione | or server boot? | 06:16 |
| fabbione | such a change will go into desktop too | 06:17 |
| BenC | isn't there a -server metapackage? | 06:17 |
| fabbione | nope | 06:17 |
| fabbione | there is no need of one | 06:17 |
| BenC | there should be :P | 06:17 |
| zul | Yippe Skippe... https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2006-April/009446.html | 06:37 |
| infinity | zul: Is that your first upload to the archive? | 06:43 |
| zul | yep.. | 06:43 |
| infinity | Congrats. | 06:43 |
| zul | thanks.. | 06:43 |
| zul | you love me you really love me ;) | 06:43 |
| fabbione | zul: now... move your bottom on -motu and starts to fix universe instead of pretending to be a kernel hacker. kthxbye. | 06:44 |
| zul | :P | 06:44 |
| zul | yes mommy | 06:45 |
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| fabbione | makx: i was just waiting for hpa to show up on irc :) | 07:03 |
| fabbione | but that will do too | 07:03 |
| makx | fabbione: ok thx, sorry have no idea about those sparc assembly so my desc was stumble-stumble | 07:04 |
| fabbione | makx: it's fine. it's nothing to do with sparc asm.. just Kbuild that required a kick | 07:04 |
| makx | fabbione: yup, looked like not building it. :) | 07:05 |
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| ath | hi everyone | 07:19 |
| ath | i'm asking for some help in resolving a kernel bug in dapper | 07:19 |
| ath | malone bug 31527 | 07:20 |
| ath | it affects the kernel side of DRI and it results in a complete system crash | 07:22 |
| ath | a vanilla 2.6.15 works fine | 07:23 |
| makx | fabbione: sam has a better fix, i would appreciate if you give it a build shot, otherwise i just push into the next debian upload | 07:24 |
| fabbione | makx: i just powered down all the sparcs for the evening | 07:32 |
| fabbione | makx: well he is also commenting on the chmod that's not coming from our patches... | 07:34 |
| fabbione | but yeah i can give it a shot | 07:34 |
| ath | well, thanks anyway | 07:35 |
| makx | fabbione: yes he reworked the sparc/Makefile.inc | 08:48 |
| fabbione | yes i saw the patch | 08:48 |
| makx | patch will not apply to unstable klibc due to s/ARCH/KLIBCARCH/ | 08:49 |
| fabbione | yes i need to test it on git | 08:54 |
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| allen | Would this be the proper place to ask a question regarding the latest kernel on amd64. 2.6.15-19-amd-k8 worked fine for me but my system doesn't boot with 2.6.15-20-amd64-k8. | 10:41 |
| allen | I've been running Dapper for a while and it seems every 2nd or 3rd kernel doesn't boot on my system, I end up running an older version until a newer one starts working. | 10:42 |
| mjg59 | BenC: We still don't seem to have the 3945 driver? | 10:52 |
| BenC | mjg59: working on it right now | 11:00 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Rocking | 11:10 |
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| BenC | ok, ipw3945 is in git now | 11:59 |
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