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eytyxiosMathman & FlannelKing thank you a lot for your help12:00
graftdmitchell: what'd you do to get the tablet up and running?12:00
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eytyxiosi guess there are no obvious answers...cya all goodnight12:00
tonyyarussoarrick: You had Gnome, and were trying to startx without X, methinks.12:00
Talldave2002where are files saved when thay are cached for installation?12:00
ZarephathHey all...12:00
arrickok, can I start it without x?12:00
WoCdmitchell, do you see your cd drive if you do?: dmesg | grep hd12:00
mwetonyyarusso: X is not /usr/X11/bin/X12:00
mwetonyyarusso: also it should be installed as a dependency12:01
dmitchellgraft:  followed these instructions:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2515112:01
arrickmwe, that didnt work though12:01
mwetonyyarusso: if not it's broken12:01
mwearrick: type which X12:01
dmitchellWoC:  nope12:01
arrickmwe?12:01
ZarephathHey mwe...tony...12:01
Rugdcoy: if you use the "Recovery Mode" option at grub boot does it work?12:01
mwearrick: type that and tell me the output 'which X'12:02
arrickok12:02
dcoyhavent tried it yet12:02
tonyyarussomwe: I'm not seeing it in the dependencies...12:02
dcoyjust installed it right now12:02
mwetonyyarusso: then it's borked12:02
Rugtry it and let me know12:02
dcoyits there though12:02
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dcoyok12:02
arrickmwe, nothing12:02
ZarephathRug: yes...it looks like a install boot...asks a few questions...then dumps to a prompt12:02
Nukeadori have just installed compiz and compiz-gnome under dapper, how can i enable the efects now?12:02
arrickman I just installed this from the repos12:02
mwearrick: ok the package is broken. install xserver-xorg12:02
arrickok12:02
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tonyyarussomwe: Take a look yourself.12:02
RugZarephath: what?12:03
skplcan someone tell me what this error means? locate: fatal error: Could not find user database '/var/lib/slocate/slocate.db':  No such file or directory12:03
mwetonyyarusso: it's not that I don't believe you12:03
mwetonyyarusso: but it's broken12:03
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_lynxHi people!12:03
mwetonyyarusso: it should install X12:03
tonyyarussomwe: Should we be contacting package maintainers then?12:03
graftdmitchell: how's your CD-ROM hooked up? ATAPI?12:03
mwetonyyarusso: I think so12:03
josue_somebody speaks spanish?12:03
josue_alguien habla espaol??12:03
mwetonyyarusso: I'd say it's a bug12:03
tonyyarussomwe: 'k.  I'll double check things here, and if no go I'll get it on Launchpad.12:03
dmitchellgraft:  yes12:04
morficis there a newer amd64 livecd than 5.10 somewhere, a testing one perhaps, this one refuses to start on my Compaq Laptop w/ Xpress200m, scrolling through server output only EE i saw was about dri failing, which usually doesn't cause X to not start at all.12:04
arricktonyyarusso, mwe dont forget I did install just the gnome-core, not desktop12:04
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The-MoonOne last thing, i need to install Nivida drivers, and it says x cant be running. How do i get out of X so i just have a command line?12:04
mwe!tell josue_ about es12:04
graftdmitchell: and your cables are okay and all?12:04
mwearrick: still12:04
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arrickjust was wondering12:04
mwearrick: it should install X when it can't run without it12:04
graftThe-Moon: shut down kdm or gdm and switch to console (Ctrl-Alt-F1)12:04
The-Moonok12:04
dmitchellgraft: Yup.  I'm running on a ThinkPad G40, and I've even put the hard drive into an identical laptop, with the same results.12:04
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The-Moonthanks graft12:04
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arrickyeah I guess so12:05
arrickmwe its installing now12:05
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gymsmokei wonder why the base server install of Ubuntu doesn't include openssh-server?12:05
graftdmitchell: ah... hrm. well sounds like the drive is fucked, then12:05
mwearrick: good12:05
RugThe-Moon: if you hit Ctrl + F2 (Ctrl + F7 brings you back to the GUI terminal), login, type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop12:05
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graftdmitchell: wait... hard drive? or cd-rom drive?12:05
mwegymsmoke: because most people don't need to run sshd12:05
dmitchellgraft:  Can't be.  It's two different laptops.  Two different drives.  The only thing the same is the hard drive I've swapped to a different chassis.12:05
Rugack12:05
gymsmokemwe: most people setting up servers?12:06
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arrickmwe user not authorized12:06
|lostbyte|Where are the network configuration files ?12:06
mwegymsmoke: well maybe. I overlooked server12:06
gholenWhat is brltty,?12:06
ENE|ToxicWhen installing the source of X11R7.0, the ./configure script complains about lbxutil .. I'm a little confused, I didn't find any way to install it ? I tried google it, but I can't find any source-file/whatever to install.12:06
mwearrick: huh? what's giving you that?12:06
Ruggymsmoke: I'd donate a kidney if I thought it would get SSH installed by default, but alas it won't help12:06
arrickpasting now12:06
graftdmitchell: okay... um. you have laptop A, and it doesn't recognize your CD-ROM drive... you take out your hard drive and put it in laptop B, and it doesn't recognize laptop B's cd-rom drive?12:06
ENE|ToxicIs xFree86 needed to install an X server ?12:07
mwegymsmoke: report a bug maybe12:07
maxbaxthanks12:07
RugENE|Toxic: no, it's xserver-xorg12:07
hyphenatedENE|Toxic: no, you should be using 'xorg'12:07
arrickmwe tonyyarusso http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1246712:07
ENE|Toxichyphenated: ok just checking. Yeah I am, but it seems I get seome error with a library12:07
gymsmokeRug: me, too!  I have an install that i really hosed up, and I'd like to strip everything except the base + openssh ... apparently that's a trick that has no real solution12:07
dmitchellgraft:  It does, sometimes.  Most of the time, though, it doesn't.  Sometimes a reboot fixes it, sometimes it doesn't.  And it was all working fine two days ago.12:07
RugWooHoo I am on a roll today12:07
gymsmokemwe: i thought of that; but, if it's not an actual 'problem', it's not likely to get much attention12:08
mwearrick: sudo rm .Xauthority and try again12:08
hyphenatedENE|Toxic: well, that's because you're building from source, and probably has something to do with missing -dev packages12:08
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mwearrick: it's from when you tried startx with sudo probably12:08
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tonyyarussoarrick: I agree.12:08
RugAll my boxes are either Debian, or Ubuntu.  Nothing frosts my ass more then doin an install, dropping off the server, driving home and being unable to SSH because of the $%^& SSH12:08
rebelworkWhat file do I edit to manually change my nameserver, gateway, hostname, ip address etc?12:08
arricknot working12:08
mwegymsmoke: well I think it should be included.12:09
gymsmokerebelwork: your network config ?12:09
Rugrebelwork: /etc/resolv.conf12:09
rebelworkthank you12:09
gymsmokemwe: i fully agree...12:09
Rugrebelwork: for your nameservers12:09
ENE|Toxichyphenated: yeah. It seemed like installing xorg using apt-get also gave me some trouble, so I decided to give the source a try. Initally, I tried to apt-get : xserver-xorg , xserver-xorg-core, xlibs, xinit, xfonts-base12:09
arrickwhat next?12:09
hyphenatedrebelwork: /etc/network/interfaces is probably a good one to play with as well12:09
graftdmitchell: um. but just so i'm clear, it's your hard drive that your OS is on that you're swapping between laptops, and not the CD-ROM drive?12:09
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gymsmokemwe: it doesn't make sense to setup a server without it12:09
Rugrebelwork: /etc/network/interfaces for the IP12:09
mwegymsmoke: not much12:09
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hyphenatedENE|Toxic: uh.. do you recall what trouble?12:10
dmitchellgraft:  That's right.  I already have to lug one laptop to work, so instead of lugging two, I just pull the hard drive out of the one I'm using at home, and put it into an identical laptop I have here at work.12:10
Jowirebelwork: /etc/network/interfaces for the eth/lo. /etc/hostname, /etc/resolv.conf for DNS12:10
mwearrick: did you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?12:10
The-MoonDamnit, that didnt work. All it did was shutdown the computer12:10
The-Moonit didnt just exit gnome...12:10
arricknope12:10
The-Moonwouldnt let me use a terminal...12:10
gymsmokemwe: without a solution to the bork job i did on this box, i'll wind up re-installing from scratch again12:10
arrickwasnt tole to do that mwe12:10
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arrickI am following directions here12:10
Trackilizerhey everyone12:10
hyphenatedENE|Toxic: normally, if your 'sources.list' is set up correctly, you'd just want to install xserver-xorg and it'll do the rest of the work for you12:10
RugThe-Moon: hit Ctrl + Alt + F2 right now12:10
ENE|Toxichyphenated: yeah, it complained about locking the .Xauthority file after I used xauth to add myself to it. So I tried as root, but I got some other error. Hang on a sec and I can see12:10
Trackilizeri really need your help12:10
mwearrick: maybe you should12:11
RugTrackilizer: speak your mind12:11
Trackilizeri just booted into ubuntu and my sreen resolution12:11
graftdmitchell: hrm. did you mess with your kernel at all?12:11
Trackilizerit's stuck and i can't turn it higher12:11
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hyphenatedENE|Toxic: was that after it was installed or while trying to install it?12:11
ENE|Toxichyphenated: yeah that's what I though, but despite that I get a whole lot of modules/files missing.12:11
Jowi!tell Trackilizer about fixresolution12:11
rogerI'm a little befuddled on my grub setup.  My normal entries don't quite seem to be working.  Can anyone offer any ideas?  I've got a second hard drive that I installed windows XP on with a fat32 partition (while the linux drive was disconnected).  I reconnected the linux drive and placed a regular looking windows entry in my menu.lst, but all it does is sit there.  Anyone see anything in this entry that looks problematic or suspicious? :12:11
dmitchellgraft:  Nope.  Other than the obligatory updates.12:11
Jowi!tell Trackilizer about resolution12:11
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arrickhey mwe do I keep hitting enter?12:12
ENE|Toxichyphenated: installing xorg using apt-get went fine, I get the problems when I call 'startx'12:12
gymsmokemwe: although, i got a great suggestion from LH in the forum...12:12
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gymsmokemwe: dpkg --get-selections | grep [[:space:] ] install$ |cut -f1 > base.list12:12
dcoyRAQ u there12:12
The-Moonok so how do i close X?12:12
graftdmitchell: and it can -sometimes- recognize your drive, but sometimes not, apparently at random12:12
JowiTrackilizer: read the link that ubotu just sent you12:12
mwearrick: you should answer the questions12:12
rogertitleWindows XP \n rootnoverify(hd1,0) \n chainloader+1  \n makeactive12:12
Rugdcoy: You mean me?12:12
The-Moononce im in the terminal12:12
alancelothola12:12
dcoyya12:12
dcoysorry12:12
dcoyrug12:12
gymsmokemwe: that will (i think) write a list of the base installation packages, then i could add openssh-server to it12:12
alancelotalgun latino12:12
RugIt's not a tough name12:12
dmitchellgraft:  That's correct.  And I've been Googling, searching, and scratching my head since Friday night over it. ;)12:12
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RugNOBODY else ever uses it12:12
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rebelworkHm there's no man file for resolv.conf , where can I find the syntax for it? Everything seems to be for unix12:12
Rug=)12:12
Trackilizeri can hardly read it cause my resoulution is stuck at 640X48012:13
Mortis_kruuulhttp://www.muzyka.oz.pl updated :P12:13
dcoyi tried the resque mode- got a lot of mem addresses12:13
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hyphenatedrebelwork: sure there is12:13
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skplis it safe to use debian scripts in ubuntu?12:13
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LadyNikoni would think so.12:13
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Rugdcoy: could you boot?12:13
skplLadyNikon, did not i see you somewhere else12:13
arrickmwe what is dbe?12:13
Trackilizeri can't read the link you gave me  cause everything is way too big12:13
mwegymsmoke: maybe so12:13
arrickand record?12:13
hellz_hunterok i give up, why wont amarok work ? it just skips to the next song over and over till the end of the playlist12:13
ompaulskpl, define script12:13
arrickand v41?12:13
LadyNikonskpl: its possible12:13
dcoyfinally it got stuck at this line- <0>Kernal Panic- not syncing: fatal exception at interrupt .....12:13
hellz_hunterive tried googleing and reading wiki forums and stuff and nothing is working12:13
hyphenatedhellz_hunter: because it's using a really dumb output plugin?12:14
skplompaul, a startup script for a dynamic ip update app12:14
dcoyyep12:14
harisundCan somebody please explain what linux-kernel-headers are? A couple of applications that I want to compile from source list a requirement of that, and I wonder if I have those if I have recompiled my own kernel?12:14
JowiTrackilizer: then first thing I would recommend is to run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"12:14
dcoywhat12:14
|lostbyte|Where is the network boot script ?12:14
mwearrick: double buffer extension12:14
dcoyno not ubuntu12:14
ompaulskpl,  Iwould not there is one in ubuntu12:14
hellz_hunterhyphenated, xine output?12:14
crimsunharisund: you need them because glibc depends on them.12:14
TrackilizerJowi, i'll try that now12:14
skplompaul, oh12:14
Trackilizerlet you know how it went12:14
hyphenatedhellz_hunter: *shrug* try some other ones and see if any work12:14
Rugdcoy:  sounds like your box is fubar12:14
FlannelKingharisund: headers are a C++ thing, they make it so we don't have to give you the whole kernel in source form, but you can get it in object form and still compile with it.12:14
hellz_hunterno other ones install i dont understand it12:14
grafthellz_hunter: probably your libmad doesn't support mp3 output12:14
skplwhere is the ubuntu startup dir located?12:15
skplfor scripts to be run at atsratup12:15
hyphenatedhellz_hunter: so install them12:15
harisundFlannelKing: Oh so they are basically the same thing as regular header files in  a C/C++ program?12:15
FlannelKingharisund: erm, C as well.  Yeah, if you want to compile, you need the headers.12:15
skplstartup12:15
FlannelKingharisund: excactly.12:15
hyphenatedhellz_hunter: eg: amarok-arts12:15
saik0skpl, /etc/init.d12:15
dcoy(Rug): Rug12:15
skplthanks12:15
hyphenatedhellz_hunter: and/or amarok-engines12:15
ompaulskpl, /etc/rc.*12:15
grafthellz_hunter: ubuntu doesn't have it by default because of some license issues12:15
Rugdcoy: dcoy12:15
gymsmokerebelwork: http://linux.about.com/od/comands/\/blcmd5_reolvc.htm12:15
arrickmwe, whats next?12:15
harisundFlannelKing: And I was thinking they were something beyond my reach.. thanks a ton.. besides, how do I get them if I have recompiled the kernel myself?12:15
Jowiskpl: /etc/init.d for general commands then /etc/rc2.d/ for the "normal" boot commands12:15
dcoyfubar12:15
crimsunharisund: they are a specific set of headers that the kernel source provides.12:15
graftif you build it yourself it'll work12:15
rebelworkThere doesn't seem to be the option for Hostname, Ip Address, gateway or netmask, only Nameserver in resolv.conf12:15
dcoyn thats12:15
mwearrick: done?12:15
arrickyeah12:15
Rugdcoy: It's German12:16
mwearrick: try startx again12:16
skplJowi, not /etc/init.d/rc2.d?12:16
FlannelKingharisund: hmm?  oh, they're in apt.12:16
hyphenatedrebelwork: yes, because that's where you configure your nameserver details12:16
dcoywhat does it mean12:16
arricknope12:16
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hyphenatedrebelwork: other crud goes in /etc/network/interfaces12:16
xbox_skykmail: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkmailprivate.so: undefined symbol: _ZN4KPIM8Identity4nullE12:16
dcoywhat do i do now12:16
ninHey12:16
Jowiskpl: the files in /etc/rc2.d/ are symlinks to /etc/init.d12:16
xbox_skykmail: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkmailprivate.so: undefined symbol: _ZN4KPIM8Identity4nullE12:16
Rugeff'd Up Beyond All Repair12:16
xbox_skyI'm trying to start kmail, but recieved this error, what should I do?        kmail: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkmailprivate.so: undefined symbol: _ZN4KPIM8Identity4nullE12:16
ninI just got ubuntu... I'm pretty dumb about it so far.12:16
harisundFlannelKing: Yes, I could download them from apt, but in my case I am not using a regular kernel (vanilla kernel, I believe it is called?) I am using a custom kernel I had compiled myself. Where do I find the headers for these?12:16
xbox_skyargh sorry about that12:16
dcoy(dcoy): ?12:16
arricknot working mwe, I am starting to get &@$^*&@#$yiuew;q12:16
Rugdcoy: I don't know what to suggest now.12:16
xbox_skythat was lag drop12:16
xbox_skya*12:17
TrackilizerJowi, so, after i've down the reconfiguration, am i supposed to reboot?12:17
mwearrick: yeah12:17
Trackilizercause nothing happen12:17
arrickI know your trying to help12:17
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hyphenatedxbox_sky: #kubuntu sounds like the best place for you12:17
crimsunharisund: don't worry about headers. Red herring.12:17
mwearrick: I don't know what's going on12:17
dcoythat probs with what......12:17
FlannelKingharisund: oh, um.  I have no idea where they are on your system.12:17
arrickfatal IO eror 10412:17
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JowiTrackilizer: usually "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" should do the trick12:17
Rugdcoy: it sounds like you have bad RAM12:17
mwearrick: maybe something is missing. not sure what though12:17
xbox_skyaight, tx12:17
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Trackilizerok12:17
harisundcrimsun: I am going to take your word on that. FlannelKing: But are they even there? Perhaps they are present where I installed them from?12:17
dcoyhmm12:17
Rugdcoy: can you run the MEM-Test at boot?12:17
arrickgonna paste12:17
dcoyok12:18
dcoyi have 2 rams 256 each12:18
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dcoyill try each individually12:18
FlannelKingharisund: if you've compiled your own kernel, then chances are you still have the headers from that compilation.  Maybe not, I don't know.12:18
dcoythanks rug...12:18
arrickmwe, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1246812:18
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harisundFlannelKing: That's what I am assuming too.. since I have the entire source after all.. thanks a ton for explaining them though (you too crimsun)12:18
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The-MoonHow do i install gcc, someone last night told me a way to type it into terminal, and it would automaticaly download packages for me. Anyone know that command?12:19
ateveshi, i have a simple question, is it possible to use a Micro-ATX power supply for a normal ATX mainboard?12:19
arrickhey tonyyarusso what is the syntax for completely removing the gnome-core, and the xserver-xorg?12:19
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The-Moongaim sucks, it wont keep logging on...12:19
crimsunThe-Moon: apt-get install build-essential12:19
The-Moonthanks12:20
Rugateves: if the equipment you are using does draw too much power12:20
arrickI'll install the blasted ubuntu-desktop, I am sick of playing with the12:20
arrickcrap12:20
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Rugarrick: Use Fluxbox!12:20
Rugateves: then you will have probs12:20
tonyyarussoarrick: You'll need debfoster to do that, but if you're just installing ubuntu-desktop anyway it's not necessary (nor wise) to remove it anyway.12:20
mwearrick: ok install x-window-system-core12:21
arrickRug, I wanted to install the desktop with out all the added crap12:21
mwearrick: I think it's missing some fonts12:21
atevesRug: no, only pentium II 350 mhz and 8mb AGP. very small server, 128MB RAM12:21
mwearrick: that should take care of it I think12:21
Rugarrick: yeah, I'd go with Flux if you want minimal12:21
arrickmwe, do I have to dpkg it?12:21
Rugateves: should be fine then12:21
atevesRug: for me it is a question of the pins12:21
Rugahh different pin-outs?12:22
mwearrick: sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core12:22
arrickrug, I want the basic UBUNTU desktop without the games and all that crap12:22
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arrickworking on it mwe12:22
Rugarrick: ahh I see.    Yeah I gave up on that12:22
foomanchewanyone using dapper with XGL on ATI ?12:22
atevesRug: a normal 20 pin plug is needed12:22
mwearrick: I don't understand why gnome-core is not taking care of that though12:22
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FlannelKingfoomanchew: ask in #ubuntu+1 or -xgl12:22
RugFutureShop, Radio Shack  should have a converter then12:22
arrickmwe, neither do I and it was supposed to12:22
grafthey dmitchell ... still around?12:22
mwearrick: I think so yes12:23
hellz_hunterthis is what i dont get12:23
katrinhello12:23
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arrickmwe, what next?12:23
hellz_hunterrhythembox plays mp3's but amarok does not12:23
dmitchellgraft:  Yup.12:23
mwearrick: startx12:23
katrindo anybody could say me how to go to another room? anything with joined is it or so...??12:23
graftdo you have a cdrom driver listed in /proc/ide/drivers?12:23
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arrickmwe, the debian desktop is coming up&^(*&%^$12:23
rebelworkWhat about the "Hostname" where do I put that?12:24
mwearrick: yes?12:24
arrickok this looks right now,12:24
Rugkatrin: type:   /join #desired-channel12:24
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arrickthanks12:24
arrickyep12:24
mwearrick: x windows though?12:24
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mwearrick: dpkg -l|grep gnome-session12:24
katrinrug;thanks12:24
Rugrebelwork: you want to change your hostname?12:24
arrickinstead of saying ubuntu, it says debian, but the looks are the same12:24
rebelworkRug: yes12:24
mwearrick: gnome?12:24
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arrickyea12:25
Jowikatrin: /join #channel-name. you can also click on "window" -> "channel-list" and choose one from there.12:25
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Rugit;s here:  /etc/hostname12:25
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rebelworkbeauties :D12:25
mwearrick: where does it say debian?12:25
TrackilizerJowi, what's the second input you gave me?12:25
Trackilizerthe one after i reconfigure "X"12:25
RugJowi: Beat ya!12:25
Trackilizercause i git my resolution up, but not has high as it should be12:25
arrickmwe, when the gui starts like ubuntu, where it normally says ubuntu12:25
JowiTrackilizer: sorry I didn't warn you you would be logged out. "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"12:25
mwearrick: splash?12:26
Trackilizerno problem12:26
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arrickyeah12:26
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mwearrick: I think you can install the ubuntu theme. I'm not sure what the name is though12:26
skplcan someone help me to make a startup script for a program?12:26
TrackilizerJowi, see ya in a bit with some good news hopefully12:26
RugJowi: I couldn't resist12:26
mwearrick: at least gnome works now12:26
arrickdont need it if it workes the same12:26
mwearrick: not if you don't care12:27
arrickmwe, all I wanted it for was the apache gui12:27
JowiRug: i'm not a fast typer but usually get it correct anyways ;.)12:27
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graftdmitchell: ....?12:27
arrickhey mwe, it aint got synaptic in it?12:27
dmitchellgraft:  Still here!12:27
mwearrick: sudo apt-get install synaptic12:28
graftdmitchell: er... sorry... do you have a cd-rom driver listed in /proc/ide/drivers?12:28
mwearrick: that's because of the gnome-core thing12:28
arrickmwe, and my apache2 isnt showing up12:28
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FlannelKingarrick: apache2 has a GUI thing?12:28
arrickyes it does FlannelKing12:28
dmitchellgraft:  My drivers file empty, actually...filesize == 012:28
FlannelKingarrick: what's it called/for?12:28
graftdmitchell: empty... um. that's... weird...12:28
dmitchellgraft:  other than saying:  ide-disk version 1.1812:29
arrickits for configgin vservers easily according to apache12:29
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dmitchellgraft:  sorry...should've double-checked. :D12:29
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graftdmitchell: ah... okay, that's interesting... so you don't have an ide-cdrom driver, seems like12:29
PShi, is there a FW-1 SecuRemote client for linux / Ubuntu?12:29
dmitchellgraft:  That's what I get for trying to do this while I'm at work.  ;)12:29
graftdmitchell: i'd mess around with your kernel some ... is it custom-built?12:29
mwearrick: isn't showing?12:29
TrackilizerJowi, it went up to 1024X768 but still not as high as it should be12:30
acid-trip!tell acid-trip win32codecs12:30
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mwearrick: you can run programs not in the menu12:30
arricknope12:30
dmitchellgraft:  Nope.  Straight 5.10 install.12:30
Trackilizerand i can't turn it higher12:30
arrickok, how'/12:30
acid-triphaha12:30
acid-tripcan some one tell me about the win32 codecs12:30
mwearrick: type it in a terminal window or alt-f212:30
klippohi. How can I get my acpi keys to work with xubuntu? they worked good using gnome, but not with xfce12:30
dmitchellgraft:  I'd upgrade to Dapper, but I have no idea how to do that without destroying the machine--as I did the last time I tried.12:30
mwearrick: install menu and menu-xdg though12:30
mwearrick: then most programs will get a shorcut12:31
arrickok12:31
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PSacid-trip, what do you wanna know?12:31
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acid-tripwhere to find them12:31
mwearrick: gotta go. good night12:31
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arricknight12:31
RugG'night12:31
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leleobhzsomeone know who is the responsable for do the mount of pendrives?12:31
leleobhzand another automatic mounts12:32
Rugleleobhz: what?12:32
TrackilizerHow do i turn my screen RES higher that 1024X78612:32
acid-tripleleobhz, root12:32
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Trackilizerit used to be higher12:32
acid-tripsudo mount /deb/hdd112:32
PSacid-trip: check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:32
Trackilizerbut it was really crappy after i rebooted12:32
phewli LOVE UVUNTU12:32
leleobhznono12:32
phewlUBUNTU *12:32
leleobhzthe automount12:32
RugTrackilizer: hard but easy method:   edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:32
gymsmokeanyone know how i can increase the default font size in fluxbox?12:32
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acid-tripleleobhz, you mean your /etc/fstab?12:32
leleobhzwhen i insert the pendrive on usb and it mounts your self12:32
graftdmitchell: can you modprobe ide-cd?12:32
leleobhzlike automount12:32
Ruggymsmoke: I am running flux.12:32
amphiklippo: if they generate acpi events (which you can see by stopping acpid and catting /proc/acpi/event and pressing the keys), you can write handlers for them in /etc/acpi12:33
klippothey do12:33
arrickmwe, tonyyarusso FlannelKing error: Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file12:33
Ruggymsmoke: the best method is to edit the files in ~/.fluxbox12:33
gymsmokeRug: I love this layout !!!! far better than gnome - but the fonts are soooo tiny...12:33
klippoit does for example run: [Tue Apr 18 00:33:29 2006]  executing action "/etc/acpi/volupbtn.sh"12:33
Ruggymsmoke: on the menus?12:33
FlannelKingarrick: why not just use apt?12:33
klippobut the volume doesnt change12:33
TrackilizerRug, erm.... what exactly should i change in there12:33
amphiklippo: is acpid running and does /etc/acpi/events contain handlers for them?12:33
dmitchellgraft:  not sure.  Gives me fatal errors when I type it in.  When I "sudo modprobe ide-cd", nothing happens.12:33
gymsmokemenus, bottom bar, all of them...12:33
lanlosthey, I installed ndiswraper and it said the driver and hardware were present12:33
klippoamphi: it does for example run: [Tue Apr 18 00:33:29 2006]  executing action "/etc/acpi/volupbtn.sh", but the volume doesnt change12:34
amphiklippo: what does that script do?12:34
leleobhzsomeone?12:34
Ruggymsmoke: actually I haven't chanced the dafaults, #fluxbox should be able to help ya12:34
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lanlostbut iwconfig doenst show wlan12:34
lanlostit only shows lo and sit012:34
klippoamphi: acpi_fakekey $KEY_VOLUMEUP12:34
dmitchellgraft:  error message (before using sudo to execute command) -- "FATAL: Error inserting ide_cd (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-cd.ko):  Operation not permitted12:34
dmitchell"12:34
Rugleleobhz: I so not understand your question12:34
gymsmokeRug: thanks... I'll ask over there...12:35
arrickFlannelKing, I nned the gui for the configuration, cause I cant seem to get help to have multiple webs running on the same server in here, been trying all day, and theonly thing I could find googling was the apache manual which has not even one correct command in it12:35
klippoamphi: KEY_VOLUMEUP=11512:35
amphiklippo: does that work if you run it manually?12:35
graftdmitchell: err... sudo modprobe ide-cd12:35
klippono12:35
gymsmokearrick: if you're running Ubuntu as a server, you definitely do not need a gui to run web sites12:35
lanlostanyone know why ndiswraper says my driver and hardware are present but all I get with iwconfig only shows lo and sit0?12:36
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dmitchellgraft:  nothing happens.12:36
graftdmitchell: sudo modprobe gives you errors?12:36
dmitchellgraft:  It gives me absolutely nothing, actually.12:36
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arrickgymsmoke, I know, but I cant find the info to run the blasted multiple sites, as I just said a minute ago12:36
amphiklippo: you could perhaps rewrite the script to use amixer...12:36
graftdmitchell: ah... thta means it worked usually12:36
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gymsmokearrick: are you running your own dns?12:36
arrickI wasnt12:36
amphiklippo: I haven't used acpi_fakekey myself12:36
gymsmokearrick: do you have more than 1 static IP address?12:37
arrickgymsmoke, Ive been in here for 10 hours so far and no help on this topic here12:37
arrick1 Ip address gymsmoke12:37
graftdmitchell: um... so type dmesg and see if it worked...12:37
eugmanHey is it feasible to have my system partition in ext3 and have a weekly backup to a same sized partition in fat32?12:37
gymsmokearrick: are you familiar with setting up virtual hosts in apache?12:37
arrickgymsmoke, thats where I cant find a tutorial that has the correct commands in it12:38
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lanlostno one her ehas ever used wireless internet?12:38
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Jowieugman: if you are only concerned about the contents of the files. fat32 does not store any permission information.12:38
gymsmokearrick: there's tut's out there for it... lemme see if i can grab one for you12:38
arrickgymsmoke, I even spent $32 on a apache2 book, and it doesnt even have the correct commands in it.12:38
eugmanJowi, I am aware of such. I just need a backup system that is universally readable.12:39
gymsmokearrick: "correct" commands??12:39
dmitchellgraft:  Doesn't look like it...12:39
eugmanjowi, I'd use rsync to do it, correct?12:39
arrickgymsmoke, no correct locations, or any of that sort of stuff12:39
graftdmitchell: um. does it show up in lsmod? and is there a line for it in /proc/ide/drivers now?12:39
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amphieugman: you'd be better off to tar up the backup first, and then cp it to the fat32 partition, IMHO12:39
Ruggymsmoke: make sure you enable "Focus Follows Mouse"   I works awesome!12:40
eugmanlanlost, there must be people here who have but they are probably idle or unable to help.12:40
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dmitchellgraft:  shows up in /proc/ide/drivers now...not sure how to check lsmod.12:40
gymsmokearrick: http://www.netahoy.org/tutorials/apache2.htm12:40
leleobhzhohohop12:40
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Jowieugman: if I would use a fat32 (which i would not recommend) i would rather put the backups in an archive that keeps the permissions and then copy the compressed archive to the fat32 drive.12:40
lanlosthaha ok12:40
leleobhzif i try to mount my drive via gnomevfs, its says pmount dont exists12:40
lanlostthanks12:40
graftdmitchell: just type lsmod12:40
gymsmokeRug: ooh, I love that... where do i turn that on??12:40
Jowieugman: as amphi said12:41
graftdmitchell: what does the last few lines of 'dmesg' say?12:41
gymsmokeRug: qeed over at flux says that i need to edit the actual theme files to change the fonts...12:41
arricklooking now gymsmoke12:41
eugmanJowi, Well are those only security concerns or are there other concerns as well?12:41
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RugRight-Click desktop -> Flux Menu -> Configure -> Focus Modle -> Mouse Focus12:42
arrickhey gymsmoke you got one for linux now?12:42
Ruggymsmoke: ahh makes sence12:42
arrickthats for win3212:42
harisundCan somebody point me towards understanding how emails work and how I can setup an email server? I had no difficulty dealing with {SSH, FTP, DNS, Web, telnet} servers but email servers seem to be simply beyond my reach? I simply don't know where to start with the terms MTA, MUA, PostFix, SendMail so on and so forth :(12:42
Jowieugman: you need the permissions if you would like to restore the system correctly. not just for security.12:42
intelnuxwhy wne I do sudo gedit /etc/xinetd.d/Xvnc can't I save the file? is something different about gedit over nano?12:42
Jowieugman: check "man cp" and the archive option12:42
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amphiharisund: postfix is relatively easy to setup - you can find howtos at tldp.org12:43
skplhow do i return to being a regular user after using sudo su?12:43
amphiharisund: postfix docs are quite good12:43
Rugskpl: exit12:43
amphiskpl: ctrl-d12:43
gymsmokearrick: ok, one more -- http://community.unixcities.com/node/912:43
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harisundamphi: ok .. tdlp is "the linux documentation project' right?12:43
amphiharisund: yup12:43
Rugharisund: yupp12:43
Jowiharisund: you have  a postfix howto at the ubuntu wikis as well. just set up postfix today using it12:43
dmitchellgraft:  lsmod shows some cd entries...last few lines of dmesg start with "atkbd.c:"12:43
ompaularrick, less /usr/share/apache2/config/default12:43
harisundJowi: ah ok done .. will search for it. Ubuntu wiki you say?12:44
eugmanThis is my reason but aren't there problems with massive tar's or is that just when trying to burn backups?12:44
eugmaner isn't12:44
arrickompaul, there isnt anything that works with apache in the /usr/share directory12:44
Jowiharisund: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/12:44
dmitchellgraft:  right-clicking the CD drive and selecting "mount" still gives the error:  "mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist" :(12:44
harisundJowi: ok done, will search for it . thanks a bunch12:44
gymsmokeRug: Configuration->Focus Model->Sloppy Focus, Semi Sloppy Focus, Auto Raise (checked) ... that's all that's there12:44
Rugwhat version of flux are you using?12:45
amphigymsmoke: you probably want sloppy focus on and auto raise off (that's the most pleasant for me at any rate)12:45
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Jowiharisund: there are two wikis. read them both. they cover different things12:45
ompaularrick, I suggest that you have a look at /usr/share/doc/apache2/examples and use the less command to break out the text12:45
amphigymsmoke: although I use openbox12:45
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Rugamphi: That is what I have, but Mouse Focus instead of Sloppy12:46
harisundJowi; Ok am searching for them. Do I just search for postfix?12:46
Jowiharisund: yep12:46
gymsmokeRug: But, Mouse Follows Focus isn't here12:46
Ruggymsmoke: what version are you running?12:46
Jowiharisund: 1. and 2. is what you want12:46
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harisundJowi: ok neat. thanks again12:46
graftdmitchell: can you pastebin your dmesg output?12:47
gymsmokeRug: Good question... where do i get that from?12:47
dmitchellgraft: Sure!  Er, how?  :)12:47
arrickompaul no such animal12:47
PSanyone know how i get started making my machine a vpn client?12:47
Ruggymsmoke: for me it's the header of the right-click menu12:47
Jowihow come Postfix and the PostfixBasicSetupHowto is not included in Ubotu's knowledge?12:47
Rugv0.9.15.112:48
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gymsmokeRug: context menu header says "Fluxbox"12:48
amphiRug: what's the difference? if the mouse is over the root window, all other windows lose focus?12:48
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RugWow I am popular...12:48
arrickhow do you open a .gz file?12:48
The-MoonAnyone know how do run a rpm file? I sudo su, and then try running the file in terminal. But it says permission denied12:48
Ruggymsmoke: the first right-click menu12:48
amphiarrick: gunzip foo.gz12:49
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Rugamphi: it sounds that same12:49
gymsmokeamphi - it's so that if you have multiple windows open that are overlapping, when you move your mouse over the other windows, the one your over gains focus12:49
duelbootarrick, tar.gz?12:49
duelbootif so just use tar12:49
graft!pastebin12:49
ubotupastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126912:49
amphiRug: sloppy focus doesn't give focus to the root window, I guess that's the difference12:49
gymsmokeRug: yeah - like right-click anywhere on the screen and get the first fluxbox menu12:49
Rugamphi: yes, but with auto-raise turned OFF, the background window does nto jump to the front12:49
amphigymsmoke: yeah, without beiing brought to the front12:49
Ruggymsmoke: yes12:49
arrickno duelboot just .gx12:50
PSarrick: or gunzip to just unzip12:50
duelbootgunzip12:50
arrickgz that is12:50
gymsmokeRug: the header bar there says "Fluxbox"  thats all12:50
amphiRug: yeah, I don't like autoraise12:50
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Ruggymsmoke:  did you apt-get install it?12:50
gymsmokeyeah...12:50
Rugahh old & busted version12:50
gymsmokeRug: that figures...12:51
amphigymsmoke: try openbox ;)12:51
DBOyou need the new hotness =)12:51
Rugthere is a VERY easy to follow guide at ubuntuforums12:51
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RugDBO: yupp12:51
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yopholaaaaaaa12:51
amphigymsmoke: openbox is much more stable than fluxbox in my experience12:51
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gnaunitedIs there an easy way to install the kernel sources for 2.6.12?12:52
Rugamphi: but not as sexy!12:52
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yopalguien habla espaol}] ?12:52
amphiRug: in what way?12:52
DBO!es12:52
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:52
amphi!es12:52
Rugamphi: I am desperate, grasping at straws.12:52
skplcan someone tell me what this means? skpl      4989  2.3  4.1  67928 20552 ?        Ssl  17:50   0:02 nautilus --sm-config-prefix /nautilus-aabMxt/ --sm-client-id 105394bc95000114530183100000073730003 --screen 0 file:///home/skpl/noip-2.1.112:52
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gymsmokeyop: ubuntu-es12:52
Jowiubotu postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix or here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostfixBasicSetupHowto12:52
ubotuokay, Jowi12:52
Jowi!postfix12:53
ubotusomebody said postfix was the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix or here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostfixBasicSetupHowto12:53
dmitchellgraft:  dmesg output's uploaded...odd that it crashes X-Chat doing so...12:53
Rugamphi: Honestly I don't know the different between flux/black/open  box12:53
amphiRug: heh - openbox doesn't do tabbed windows, but as I only use that for xterms really, I just use mrxvt12:53
graftdmitchell: url?12:53
RugI do love the tabs12:53
dmitchellgraft:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1246912:53
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dmitchellgraft: afk for about 10 minutes....sorry.  at work....12:53
arrickgymsmoke, duelboot, DBO why do all the tutorials reference NameVirtualHost when there is not one in apache?, am I supposed to create this somewhere, as they give no directory referenced12:53
amphiRug: last time I used fb, the window tabbing was a bit buggy12:53
RugI am using the newest version.   9.15.112:54
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Rugcompiled12:54
gymsmokearrick: you have to set up NameVirtualHost in the apache conf file...12:54
MrRiowhen using pureftp, how do i make it land it somewhere other than the user's home directory?12:54
arrickok, they dont bother telling you that in any of the tutorials, I have been searching all day now12:55
gymsmokeMrRio: there's a thread about that on ubuntu forums...12:55
amphiarrick: submit a patch for the tutorial ;)12:55
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gymsmokeamphi: good one12:55
skpldo i have to make a startup script executable for it tow ork?12:55
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eugmanStupid question: when manually editing the partition table and installing do I need one of the volumes to have a bootable flag?12:56
arrickamphi, I gotta figure it out first12:56
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amphieugman: not for linux12:56
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Bizzyhey, how do i replace gnome desktop with xfce4 in ubuntu?12:56
gymsmokearrick: there's also an example file in apache that (i think) shows both ip and non-ip based setups12:56
amphieugman: windows used to want the bootable flag, dunno if it still does12:56
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arrickgymsmoke, not from what I see, in the examples folder12:57
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Jowieugman, amphi: not even if using a boot partition?12:57
enterusernamehello12:57
enterusernameI'm having some prblems wiht my printe rthqat i never had with suse12:57
enterusernameits giving me this error message12:57
amphiJowi: linux doesn't care about the bootable flag at all12:57
eugmanAmphi, jowi: if I do tar everything, is it possible to do incremental backups still or must I make a new tar every backup.12:57
Jowiamphi: good to know :)12:57
enterusernameThe Postscript interperter in you r printer is 2014.11612:57
amphiJowi: nor grub or lilo12:57
enterusernamethis printout rquires at least 201512:57
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enterusernameand i tried adding the gs line12:57
enterusernamethat its mentioning12:57
MrRiogymsmoke: Do you have a link?12:58
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enterusernameadn its saying can not open device12:58
enterusernamecan anyone help me12:58
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Jowieugman: the archive option in "cp" will only backup modified/new files.12:58
enterusernameive searched onm the net and havent FOUND anything12:58
enterusernameim getting real FRUSTRATED with ubuntu :(12:58
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eugmanhmm. One last things. In general what do you think the compression rate would be.12:58
jadaz87hello everyone i was wondering how can i get rid of the ubuntu sign to the left of the Applications menu?12:58
amphienterusername: careful not to trip on the learning curve ;)12:58
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enterusernamecrap12:59
tonyyarussoarrick: Did mwe and FlannelKing get you sorted?12:59
enterusernamei think i seethe problem12:59
enterusernameWHy does UBUNTU use default level 112:59
enterusernamehrm12:59
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gymsmokeMrRio: not off-hand... i saw it recently (last day or so) when i was looking for something similar...12:59
Ruggymsmoke: check this out:   #! /bin/sh12:59
Rug# /etc/init.d/blah12:59
acid-triphow do i roll back a program12:59
Rug#ack12:59
Rugsorry12:59
MrRiogymsmoke: did it involve turning off unixauth?01:00
skplcan someone tell me what this means? skpl      4984  5.0  5.1  72028 25712 ?        Ssl  17:59   0:02 nautilus --sm-config-prefix /nautilus-aabMxt/ --sm-client-id 105394bc95000114530183100000073730003 --screen 0 file:///home/skpl/noip-2.1.101:00
Jowieugman: you need to use the -u option together with -a i think01:00
skplcan someone tell me what this means? skpl      4984  5.0  5.1  72028 25712 ?        Ssl  17:59   0:02 nautilus --sm-config-prefix /nautilus-aabMxt/ --sm-client-id 105394bc95000114530183100000073730003 --screen 0 file:///home/skpl/noip-2.1.101:00
Ruggymsmoke: check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11675901:00
arrickskpl, use the pastebin01:00
arrick!pastebin01:00
ubotuI heard pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126901:00
graftskpl: in what context? that's your nautilus process...01:00
skplgraft, it seems to be running at startup, i did not start it myself01:00
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enterusernameflippen hell01:01
graftskpl: um. dead process? just kill it...01:01
gymsmokeRug: yeah, just found it...01:01
enterusernameok01:01
acid-tripgraft, can you explain how to roll back a program01:01
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graftskpl: or maybe nautilus runs in the background01:01
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gymsmokeRug: that looks promising... is that how you got the latest flux?01:01
enterusernamecan anyone hjelp me set my printer01:01
enterusernameup01:01
enterusernameIt works in suse but not ubuntu01:01
DBOgraft, nautilus is part of GNOME and does run in the background01:01
enterusernamewhat the heck is the problem01:01
skplgraft, how do i keep it from running at startup?01:01
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graftskpl: err... why do you want to?01:02
acid-trip============ Checking for cc version ============01:02
acid-tripResult is: 4.0.2, bad01:02
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jadaz87hello everyone i was wondering how can i get rid of the ubuntu sign to the left of the Applications menu? and just have Applications, PLaces, System?01:02
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graftacid-trip: remove gcc-4.001:02
gymsmokeRug: should i apt-get remove flux before i do that?  (it would make sense)01:02
dmitchellgraft:  back. :)01:02
Ruggymsmoke: yupp01:02
graftdmitchell: erm... i got very little for you. i'd put ide-cd in /etc/modules and reboot01:03
DBOacid-trip, why not just set your CC variable instead of removing 4?01:03
eugmanUnrelated question, is it possible to have a two installations working if one has the shared home inside it's partition instead of a /home/ partition?01:03
enterusernamecan anyone help me01:03
enterusernameis it because its a NEW version or odl version?01:03
dmitchellgraft: will do.  Thanks for all the help!01:03
gymsmokeRug: it also makes sense why some of the things i found in the flux documentation won't work at all..01:03
enterusernamehrm its the exact saem version..01:03
RugI gotta run folks.  TTYL01:03
gymsmokeRug: later01:03
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DBOenterusername, you will have to be much more specific, my crystal ball broke recently.  Do you by chance get an error?  What happens when you try to add a printer?01:04
enterusernamelol01:04
enterusernameDDC: the printer works..01:04
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FlannelKingeugman: assuming they can both read the disk, although you'd be better off with your own partition for home things.01:04
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enterusernamebut when i was tyrying to print in mozilla i got some wierd message sayign "This postscript interperter in your printer is 2014.11601:04
dmitchellgotta go.  Thanks, graft, for the assist. :)01:05
enterusernameyou require 2015 or greater use ghost script and then gave me settings01:05
enterusernamebut i got it working so nevermind01:05
graftsure01:05
enterusernamei dont know why it doesnt do that in suse01:05
graftrrroo01:05
jmccanyone use the "Rotate" parameter of the i810 x.org driver to use a portrait mode flat panel screen? it works for me to rotate the screen, but doesn't affect the mouse01:05
eugmanFlannel king, Well they'd both be on the disk and the other one would just be a rarely used secondary setup if I do even make it.01:05
enterusernameis it a new version of  lpr?01:05
jmcchow do I rotate the mouse?01:05
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enterusernameany idea?01:05
enterusernameis it because Ubuntu uses a new version of lpr?01:06
enterusernamethati have to convert it to ghostscript?01:06
enterusernamehmm..01:06
DBOenterusername, off the top of my head, no idea, but you are welcome to investigate it yourself01:06
jmccOption Rotate "CCW" works in the xorg.conf01:06
jmccbut only rotates the screen, not the mouse01:06
enterusernameok nevermind then01:06
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jadaz87hello everyone i was wondering how can i get rid of the ubuntu sign to the left of the Applications menu? and just have Applications, PLaces, System?01:08
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skplhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1247001:08
skplcan someone help me with that?01:08
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giginoI don't know why every time I install Ubuntu it stop the installation at the time zone..01:09
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Hexidigitaljadaz87, system -> preferences -> menu and toolbar... uncheck Show icons in menus01:10
jimmyeklhello all, i have a question. i tried out the dapper flight 6 livecd a few days ago. and the network manager (up in the right korner) is this in gnome 2.14 or is it ubuntu special?01:11
skplcan someone help me create a startup script for a program i want to use at startup?01:11
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ENE|ToxicWhich xorg version works well with ubuntu-server ? (X11r6.* - X11r7.0) ?01:12
DBOjadaz87, or you can simply replace /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png with whatever you like01:12
amphiskpl: look at the ones in /etc/init.d01:12
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skplamphi, im afraid im a bit of a linux bewnie01:14
skplnewbie?01:14
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marchi, i had a file.c and i accidentally called gcc blah -o file.c with no input file, file.c disappeared and i didn't have a backup01:14
marcis there any way to retrieve it?01:14
marcor a better place to ask01:14
skplamphi, i actually have the startup script already, but i do not know where to put it01:14
jadaz87thank you Hexidigital and DBO01:14
skplamphi, the readme it came with told me to put it in /etc/init.d/rc2.d, without any symbolic links01:15
Hexidigitalno problem jadaz8701:15
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amphiskpl: better to put it in /etc/init.d and use update-rc.d to create the symlinks for you IMHO01:16
skploh?01:16
skplok01:16
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amphiskpl: that way, if you don't want it to run, you can just remove the symlinks, and restore them if you need it again01:16
skpli dunno what you mean01:16
skplhow do i use update-rc.d01:16
amphiskpl: man update-rc.d ;) it creates the symlinks once you have the script in /etc/init.d01:17
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gymsmokei'm trying to remove all of the packages installed on a server install except for the base system and openssh-server...01:20
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Bizzehhey01:20
skplis there any way to test whether a strtup script works without restarting?01:20
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Bizzehi just installed ubuntu to my channel 2 sata2 disk, and the installer ignored that and installed the boot loader to the drive in channel 0 master, my backup disk01:20
Bizzehhow can i just install grub to my sata disk, which is first boot in my bios01:21
Jowiskpl: "sudo /etc/init.d/script start" will tell you if the script is ok at least. if you have /etc/rc2.d/S99script pointing to /etc/init.d/script it should work fine01:21
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skplJowi, i used update-rc.d, which supposedly creates the startup links for me01:21
giginoI don't know why every time I install Ubuntu it stop the installation at the time zone..01:21
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skplJowi, was that a goo idea?01:22
Jowiskpl: if you used the "defaults" switch it should work fine01:22
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gymsmokeanyone know how to use "tasks" in aptitude?01:22
skplJowi, i got this error: sudo: /etc/init.d/noip2: command not found01:22
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Jowiskpl: did you make it executable?01:23
skpljowi: ok i made it work, i had the extension wrong01:23
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skplJowi, to test if it works at startup do i need to logout or restart?01:24
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Jowiskpl: yeah, reboot is the only sure way01:25
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ray___hi01:26
skplk01:26
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aserpeI'm having a very hard time getting my desktop to show anything other than 640X480.01:28
dejAnyone know an easy way to install Java on Ubuntu?01:28
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mineraleHi, I have a quick question: what are the linux/ubuntu equivalents for: "ipconfig /release and /renew" ?01:28
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testihi01:28
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digitalhav0canyone have ut working with nvidia-glx drivers01:28
digitalhav0cmy install was working now i've lost sound01:29
digitalhav0c: (01:29
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testidoes anyone know how to configure nvidia with xorg in dapper ? I only get no screens found when turning from nv to nvidia ...01:29
The-MoonWhats the shortcut key for switching workspaces?01:29
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digitalhav0calt-tab01:29
The-Moonthat just switchs the windows01:29
The-Moonit dont change the workspace01:29
mgalvinThe-Moon: ctrl-alt <arrow>01:29
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digitalhav0cthats what i mean't01:29
The-Moonthat worked, thanks :D01:29
digitalhav0clol01:30
The-MoonMuch better :D01:30
mgalvin:)01:30
aserpeI can't seem to get my deskstop to any resolution and everything is really really big.01:30
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aserpefor example I can't see the bottom of this app01:30
skplcan someone help me? i have install proftpd but cannot connect to my machine vie ftp client01:30
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The-MoonIm trying to change directories... and its saying that the folder i want to change too dosent exist, anyone know why?01:30
The-Moonbash: cd: /mnt/hdb2/Projects/Free: No such file or directory01:31
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InazadI'm not able to change my keyboard in the keyboards settings...01:31
BeforewisdomHi.  I used automatix to install firefox 1.5, with the mplayer plugin, and "commonly used codecs".  The firefox + mplayer combo doesn't seem to be working for real player files.  I got some error messages indicating it needs real player codecs.  Im a bit new to this.  How can I get and install those?01:31
ENE|ToxicWhich [ xorg ]  version works well with ubuntu-server ? (X11r6.* - X11r7.0) ? If I compile the source by hand, I'm missing a whole lot of libraries. Are there any general x packages I can install to fix this? Already installed xlibs.01:31
The-Moonoh wait01:31
The-Moonnm01:31
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Jowitesti: try in #ubuntu+101:31
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xzionhow to install psybnc?01:31
skplis there anyway to completely remove a program once it has been installed using aptitude?01:31
FlannelKingskpl: remove it with aptitude ;)01:31
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aserpeyou all have huge fonts... my screen looks like Duplo.  Help me get a good resolution on my screen!!! arg!01:32
skplFlannelKing, how do i do that?01:32
KeneoI have a msi nx 6600gt GPU with dvi and vga output, 2 monitors attached, can someone help me explaining how to set up my xorg.conf file for these 2monitors?01:32
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skplcan someone help me? i have install proftpd but cannot connect to my machine vie ftp client01:32
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The-MoonIs there anyway to allow my account The-Moon to automaticaly have all Root Commands?01:32
skpli have it set to start with inetd01:32
aserpearg.01:32
aserpegrr01:32
JowiThe-Moon: yes, put the user in the admin group01:33
lgcHi, can anyone tell me how can I know the info of an apt package?01:33
aserpeOk, I'm leaving without an answer. :-(01:33
JowiThe-Moon: then that user can use "sudo"01:33
aserpebye evry one.01:33
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lgcaserpe, bye..01:33
Beforewisdomaserpe01:33
xzioncan someone help me to install psybnc?01:33
FlannelKingskpl: go into aptitude, highlight the package, hit - or _ to remove all config as well.01:33
Beforewisdomhave you tried right clicking your desktop?01:33
FlannelKingskpl: you can also do it via the menu01:34
The-Mooni want sudo to always automaticaly be activated for anything i run01:34
aserpeyes01:34
aserpeBeforewisdom.01:34
The-Mooni cant move or do anything wiht file browser because of this....01:34
FlannelKingThe-Moon: gksudo nautilus01:34
aserpeit only shows one option. :-(01:34
Beforewisdomaserpe, hold on I think I saw screen resolution settings somewhere a few weeks ago01:34
skplcan someone help me? i have install proftpd but cannot connect to my machine vie ftp client01:34
Beforewisdomgive me about 5 min01:34
The-Mooni want to rename a directory to take out the space and i cant.... Ive tried mv in termainl but it thinks im trying to move 2 files01:34
aserpeok thanks!01:34
FlannelKingThe-Moon: gksudo nautilus01:34
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dejIs there an easy way to install Java? It won't self extract and running through term doesn't seem to help.01:34
FlannelKingThe-Moon: or, escape the space with \01:34
The-Moon?01:34
lisandrohi01:35
ENE|ToxicWhich [ xorg ]  version works well with ubuntu-server ? (X11r6.* - X11r7.0) ? If I compile the source by hand, I'm missing a whole lot of libraries. Are there any general x packages I can install to fix this? Already installed xlibs.01:35
The-Moonescape the space?01:35
lisandroanyone can help me to install amsn 0.95 on ubuntu?01:35
FlannelKingThe-Moon: this\ is\ a\ filename\ with\ spaces.txt01:35
lgcCAN ANYONE TELL ME WHAT IS THE apt OPTION TO GET A PACKAGE INFO?01:35
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The-Moonoh ok01:35
Beforewisdomaserpe, I found it under System | Preferences | Screen Resolution01:35
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aserpeYes... but it only gives me this option01:36
Beforewisdomhold on01:36
The-MoonThannk you FlannelKing01:36
vladb2001hi01:36
vladb2001i have a ubuntu question :01:36
The-Moonlisandro > use gaim :)01:36
mmmiiikkkeeei do a kill -9 on a process and the i ps -e and its still running???01:36
lisandrojeje01:36
Beforewisdomaserpe, I got 4 options.  Are you running ubuntu live or as an install?01:36
FlannelKinglgc: apt-cache help for a list of commands (youre looking for showpkg)01:36
vladb2001is it wise to install 5.04 on a P II 128 MB RAM ?01:36
skpli am getting this error when trying to connect to my ftp server, can someone tell me why? Cannot connect to skpl.no-ip.info: Connection refused01:36
skplWaiting 30 seconds until trying to connect again01:36
The-MoonBtw also, has anyone had luck yet with installing codeblocks on ubuntu... I cannot for some reason....01:36
lisandroThe-Moon, gaim dont like me01:37
The-MoonWhy not?01:37
lisandroforgive my english please01:37
The-MoonIts like me01:37
aserpeBeforewisdom: install01:37
mmmiiikkkeeei thought the kil -9 kills it no matter what??01:37
aserpekill -9 -1 kills everything01:37
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Beforewisdomaserpe, I'm not an expert, but I am guessing you need a better driver for your video monitor01:37
lisandroamsn seems more friendly to me01:37
aserpehrm... ok01:37
Beforewisdomaserpe01:37
The-Moonbleh....01:37
aserpeyes01:37
KeneoI have a msi nx 6600gt GPU with dvi and vga output, 2 monitors attached, can someone help me explaining how to set up my xorg.conf file for these 2monitors?01:37
kyncaniENE|Toxic: why woould you want to compile xorg ?01:37
Beforewisdomaserpe, I would go to the ubuntu forum, search on automatix, it is a tool that will install nvida drivers01:38
lisandroi installed 0.94 vesion, with apt-get01:38
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ENE|Toxickyncani because apt-get install xserver-xorg didn't seem to do it01:38
Beforewisdomaserpe, if that doesn't work post the question on the forums.01:38
aserpeok thanks01:38
BeforewisdomI am sure it is a driver or an install issue01:38
Beforewisdomaserpe, when you run ubuntu live did you have this problem?01:38
aserpeprobably install.  I'm not very goot.01:38
aserpeI didn't run the live on this.01:38
aserpeI did it on my laptop01:38
aserpehrm...01:39
BeforewisdomRun the livecd,  that will tell the person who helps you a lot01:39
aserpeok01:39
aserpethanks!!!01:39
aserpe :-)01:39
aserpebye!!!!01:39
Beforewisdomthe install program is very good01:39
Beforewisdomhold on01:39
aserpeok01:39
Beforewisdomyou only need choose the defaults01:39
Beforewisdomso I am guessing you need a better driver01:39
lgcFlannelKing,  Thanks! Say, do you know which option shows me the package mantainer?01:39
Beforewisdomtry automatix01:39
aserpewhat is automatix?01:39
Beforewisdomif that doesn't work post to ubuntu forums01:39
Jowi!automatix01:39
ubotuI heard automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.01:39
Beforewisdomit is a tool for adding proprietary extension to ubuntu01:40
Jowi!easyubuntu01:40
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu01:40
Beforewisdomand setting up various cool things01:40
Beforewisdomaserpe01:40
Beforewisdomso try automatix01:40
lisandroanyone can help me to install amsn 0.95 on ubuntu?01:40
Beforewisdomget nvidia drivers01:40
kyncaniENE|Toxic: didn't seem to do it ??01:40
aserpeok01:40
Beforewisdomthen post to ubuntu if that doesn't work, the people there know their stuff01:40
ENE|Toxickyncani: yeah it didn't work to 'startx'01:40
Beforewisdomare friendly, will help you fast01:40
aserpeok thaks!01:40
Beforewisdomgood luck01:40
aserpebye bye!01:40
aserpethanks!01:41
aserpehugs01:41
FlannelKinglgc: "show"01:41
kyncaniENE|Toxic: try X01:41
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mmmiiikkkeeehow do i kill  a procss if kill -9 does not do it?01:41
arrickAnyone, I am trying to setup virtual hosts on my apache2 server, please look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12471 and tell me what I am doing wrong?01:41
Kenseymike: you have to reboot as far as I know01:41
ENE|Toxickyncani ... oh :) That seems to give some result anyway. The screen is blank though (fuzzy-blank)01:41
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kyncaniENE|Toxic: yeah, that's the X window server. I think you should install x-window-system and gdm.01:42
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ENE|Toxickyncani: I was going to install fluxbox, do I really need gdm/xdm whatever ?01:42
xzioncan someone help me with installing psybnc serveR?01:43
kyncaniENE|Toxic: no, wait a sec01:43
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ENE|Toxickyncani: sure01:43
Keneocan someone help me with setting up a dual monitor system?01:43
KenseyI have Ubuntu 5.10 running on my laptop.  I have wpa_supplicant set up to connect to my wireless network securely.  However, 1) it doesn't do DHCP on the adapter like it should, 2) it blocks me from connecting to networks not listed in wpa_supplican.conf.  Is there a way to fix those issues?01:43
jeeaarhow can i set up my ui so that the desktop shows a shortcut to floppy data?01:43
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kyncaniENE|Toxic: x-window-system and xdm ought to do it. They're  small and close to the minimum01:44
arrickFlannelKing, did you see my last post?01:44
ENE|Toxickyncani: great, thanks. Btw, do I need xserver-xorg & xserver-common to that ?01:44
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kyncaniENE|Toxic: x-window-system will pull in xserver-xorg + some fonts and one additionnal thing or two.01:45
duelboot_awayI'm going to take the plunge and upgrade (not clean install) to dapper...what's the best way...oh, and in case you're wondering, no I don't care if it crashes...any instructions?01:45
rodsorHey all! Just a test (fresh Ubuntu install).01:45
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rodsorbye!01:45
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skplcan someone explain to me how to start an ftp server through inetd?01:45
ENE|Toxickyncani: great thanks alot01:45
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kyncaniENE|Toxic: np :)01:45
jerwareskpl  /etc/initd/ftp restart01:45
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jerwareskpl  /etc/initd/vsftpd restart01:46
jerwaredepends on the server01:46
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skplit is proftpd01:46
jerwarecheck synaptec package manageer01:46
jerwareahh01:46
jerwareoh ok01:46
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jerwareskpl  /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart01:46
arrickanyone, if you are good with apache2, please check out my paste to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1247101:46
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skpljerware, it is proftpd01:47
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jerwaresorry i use vsftpd.01:47
arrickduelboot, you good with apache2?01:47
jerwarecheck the file in /etc/init.d  skpl01:47
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jerwarethan that <start>01:47
jerwareor <restart>01:48
duelbootarrick, nope...know how to upgrade to dapper01:48
duelboot?01:48
arricknope01:48
lgcFlannelKing, thanks!01:48
Kaya_arrick > 192.168.1.26:0 (port 0 is reserved for one thing or another) so you need to change that for a start, and the other error is due to running a wildcard AND a numerical IP ie. running *:80 AND 192.168.1.26:0 will NOT work01:48
Jowiskpl: /etc/init.d/ and press <tab><tab> to see all the commands available. it's probably called proftpd or something similar01:48
duelboot_jason, how to upgrade to dapper?01:48
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Kaya_its either *:80 OR 192.168.1.26:80 not both01:48
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xzion_jason: how to install psybnc server?01:49
Jowi!tell duelboot about upgrade01:49
arrickKaya_, can you help me out here?01:49
duelbootthx jowi01:49
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jerwarei have telnet installed?  according to synaptec package manager.  but it's not in /etc/init.d01:49
skplJowi, i got this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1247201:49
arrickIm not sure what i need to change01:49
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Kaya_Arrick > sure edit your HTTP.conf file and read through it, looking for the errors and change them as i said01:49
skplJowi, i am trying to get it to start from inetd01:49
Kaya_httpd.conf **01:49
jerwarei know ssh is better than telnet.  but im reading an old TCP/IP book01:49
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skplJowi, instead of standalone01:49
cyphaseyou know how in IE6, it has a "For Netscape Users" menu option?01:49
arrickKaya_, I had the ip adys there in the first place and got the same errors01:49
cyphasewhat if it changes to Firefox :P01:49
jerwareand it uses telnet to "time"  tcp01:49
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Kaya_all IP's (no *'s?)01:50
Jowiskpl: it is probably not configured properly. see if there is a wiki about proftp01:50
jerwarenot for its login capabilities01:50
jeeaarwhat is the default ubuntu interface>01:50
jeeaar?01:50
Kaya_Gnome?01:50
duelbootjeeaar, login manager?  or desktop?01:50
cyphaseGnome for Ubuntu, KDE for Kubuntu01:50
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jeeaarwhichever would govern my pmount DL, i guess01:50
jerwareso im assuming no one here has bothered with telnet ?01:51
Jowihehe01:51
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Jowi!proftp01:51
ubotuJowi: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:51
jerware!telnet01:51
ubotuhmm... telnet is bad, use ssh (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto)01:51
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jeeaarlol, "telnet is bad"01:51
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jerwareok ok01:51
Kaya_Arrick > did you get my Message?01:52
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essienhow do i enable 2 languages?01:52
mzuverinkwhat would be the cli command to change the entire contents of a dir, include all sub dirs and their contents to 755(drwxr-wr-x)?01:53
mzuverinkopps drwxr-xr-x...01:54
Kaya_chmod 755 dir -R01:54
johncuddessien go to System > Administration > Language Selector01:54
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mzuverinkKaya_: thank you!01:54
Kaya_Np's01:54
FlannelKingduelboot: if no one's answered, there's a howto in the topic of #ubuntu+101:54
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duelbootthx FlannelKing, Jowi was nice enough to answer...I'm starting the process now and my fingers are crossed01:55
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FlannelKingduelboot: good luck to you!  And remember, if something goes wrong, it just means it won't go wrong for 100s of people after you file a bug report and it gets fixed ;)01:56
skpldoes anyone know the name of the package that installs the 'britty' program?01:56
duelbootFlannelKing, yep...and I'll just spend 20 min putting breezy back on01:56
FlannelKingarrick: sorry, I'm not super familiar, you try asking at #apache?01:57
xzion_jason: how to install psybnc server?01:57
xzionplease help me01:57
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xzionwget http://www.psychoid.lam3rz.de/psyBNC2.3.1.tar.gz01:57
xziondidnt work :/01:57
xzioncouldnt find it01:58
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xzioncan someone help me with installing psybnc server?01:59
Kaya_is it not in any APT Repo's?01:59
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odlahi02:02
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essienjohncudd: then - how do i switch between the 202:03
mineralewhat is the default root passord on ubuntu ? (livecd)02:04
FlannelKing!tell minerale about root02:04
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ZarephathHey all...what do I need to do to allow rw access to a mount? I have reiserfs defaults,user 0 0 currently02:05
_jasonZarephath: chmod/chown the mounted directories02:05
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Zarephath__jason: I mounted as me(user zarephath) that won't setup the mount to allow me to write to it?02:08
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_jasonZarephath: no it depends on the permissions the directories have.  Treat it just like you would any other directory.  do a 'ls -ld /path/to/mount' to see what they currently are02:08
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Zarephath__jason: Ok I was just assuming that when the "user" was added into fstab and the mount was done as such by <user> that it would handle the permissions also..thanks02:09
_jasonZarephath: nah, it just gives the user permission to actually mount it afaik02:10
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OrTigaShi i'm back! and still i cant listen to internet radio(FM/AM)02:11
DBO_jason, what do you think about chowning mount points for external drives?  I know its not standard practice but Im not sure I see the security hole...02:12
ZarephathOrTigaS: Did you go to shoutcast? And try that?02:12
FlannelKingOrTigaS: internet radio isn't in AM or FM.02:12
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hellz_huntermaxtor > western digital?02:12
_jasonDBO: if you treat it the same you would a directory in your $HOME, I see nothing wrong with it02:12
Zarephathhellz_hunter: My experience with Maxtor has been not too favorable...02:12
hellz_hunterso western digital?02:13
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OrTigaSi tried the FM and AM still wont work the sounds02:13
arricknot yet02:14
OrTigaSbut when i try to open a video clip it play with sounds02:14
arrickFlannelKing, normally they arent much help in there, but will try02:14
FlannelKingOrTigaS: AM/FM aren't internet radio.02:14
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FlannelKingarrick: yeah, I know.  I can help you... in about two hours, if oure still around ;)02:14
OrTigaSit is FlannelKing02:14
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DBOuhg... something wrong with the router, too lazy to fix though02:15
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arrickok02:16
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lgcFlannelKing, do you know how to make lm-sensors work?02:17
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OrTigaSanyone have an idea why my sounds wont play when i try to listen to internet radio(FM/AM)02:17
FlannelKinglgc: what's an lm sensor?02:17
OrTigaSbut when i play video clips it works the sound02:17
no_no_noanyone know about locking down or administering ubuntu? what is this called?02:18
Zarephathhellz_hunter: I like Seagate02:18
Zarephathno_no_no: Security02:18
Zarephath!tell no_no_no about security02:19
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Zarephath!tell no_no_no about wiki02:19
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no_no_nolooking at the wiki..thanks02:20
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xzionhow to connect to my ubuntu box with ssh?02:20
Zarephathnp02:20
xzioncan someone help me?02:20
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lgcFlannelKing, lm-sensors: "Utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors" (from apt-cache show)02:20
_jasonubotu: tell xzion about ssh02:20
Zarephathxzion: First off you need to run openssh-keygen -t dsa(or rsa) or both02:20
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Zarephathxzion: Actually before that you need to make sure your hosts and hosts_allow is setup on both machines02:22
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Zarephathhosts_deny too02:22
FlannelKingActually, before all that (and before you leave, which you already have done) you need to install ssh-server02:22
ZeneroIs it possible to access a remote ntfs system?02:22
Zarephath!tell xzion about openssh02:22
no_no_nook02:22
OrTigaSnow its play with sounds already!!! :)02:23
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OrTigaSi just save it first then opne and play~!02:23
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OrTigaSopen*02:23
no_no_noi know im gonna get flamed but im reading the wiki and i get what it says, but im trying to admin 6 workstations at once..where do i look? what is this called?02:23
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OrTigaShow about another one... i cant see other window$ PC on a Network02:24
OrTigaShow can i do that... i installed already Samba02:24
Zarephathno_no_no: Remote admin...if you want to ssh to 6 boxes then I assume you have to make 6 connections to said boxes...02:24
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ZarephathDepending on what you want to do...might learn to write python, perl, or bash scripts..then you can copy the file(s) to said machines and execute them and let them do the work02:25
no_no_nois there a guide on how to setup a small network?02:25
Zarephathno_no_no: What do you mean...are all the machines up and connected via hub or router?02:26
GTroyare proprietary drivers a bad thing usabiltiy wise?02:27
DBOno02:27
DBOthey are a good thing02:27
no_no_notheyre on a hub.. the hub goes into a gateway router...02:27
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DBOallow me to rephrase GTroy, while open source IS prefered, currently the proprietary drivers are better for most devices02:28
ZarephathOk so you have a small network already if all of them have different ips assigned statically or via dhcp...however if you are wanting to run one as a web server, another as ftp, etc..you are better off doing static ip assignment02:28
GTroythanks DBO that makes it clearer02:28
no_no_nono02:28
no_no_noi just want to do admin stuff once02:28
no_no_noand have them restart02:28
no_no_noand i want to lock them down02:29
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no_no_nothis is a kids computer lab02:29
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DBOno_no_no, ok, are they linux machines?02:29
no_no_nono theyre gateways and had MS HOME and were all crappy so i put ubuntu on them02:29
no_no_nobefore we were using something called DeepFreeze02:29
no_no_nois there something with that functionality for linux?02:29
DBOmmm, what does deep freeze do?02:30
arrick!enter02:30
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.02:30
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no_no_noit prevents changes from being written to disk. so when frozen a restart restores the system02:30
no_no_nono viruses, no history, no documents, you can even format the C:02:30
lgcFlannelKing, do you know where are the boot messages stored?02:30
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no_no_nosorry im not a linux person.. im not even good at computers but if i can read it or find out what its called then i can look it up02:31
DBOno_no_no, you dont really that in linux...02:31
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eyequeueno_no_no, are you looking to make your root firesystem readonly, perhaps?  (man 5 fstab, you would want "ro" option)02:31
no_no_nothat doesnt exist? or you dont need it?02:31
no_no_nosure?02:31
eyequeuefiLesystem02:31
DBOno_no_no, you dont really need it, as regular users there is very little they could do to fubar the system, and they would have to be very smart to pull it off02:32
Zarephathno_no_no: Look at tuxmag..there is a program g4 something that is like ghost that would give some benefits of what you are describing...02:32
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no_no_noreally?02:32
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nopcode_hey02:32
no_no_nobut in ubuntu they can right click and rearrange icons, etc02:32
nopcode_i just read the following sentence 'Have you ever wondered who the people behind Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Edubuntu and Xubuntu are and what they do?'02:32
nopcode_ehrm.02:32
Zarephathdenn?02:33
nopcode_is there a seperate distribution depending on which windowmanager you want?02:33
eyequeueno_no_no, a better solution to my way of thinking is to have a recent *backup* of your critical files (such as those under /etc)02:33
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no_no_nothere is still cleanup to be done to keep it at a usable level, even if it doesnt cripple the system02:33
capiCrimmanyone what I have to issue to link a opengl program on ubuntu?02:33
no_no_noyou dont understand02:33
capiCrimmlink/compile02:33
no_no_nothere is nothing critical on these.02:33
no_no_notheyre wiped down with nothing but ubuntu.. just for use in a lab.02:33
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nopcode_is there a seperate ubuntu-distribution for each window-manager?02:33
no_no_nois there a kiosk mode or something? these arent workstations where stuff is stored02:34
DBOhmmm, maybe he could just chown their home directories...02:34
ZarephathLook....linux uses a /home/user system...so when someone uses the computer and you want to erase everything they do you just kill that username directory under home...that is a kludge but would work02:34
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starfishyi am trying to network install breezy. I used the DVD to set up the repository02:34
no_no_nobut id still have to go back in and set it up for a 12 year old to use02:34
DBOno_no_no, if you want to remove their ability to make ANY changes to the system, after you set up the account chown their home directory to root02:34
capiCrimmnopcode_, sorta, but in theory you can install any windows-manager/desktop environment in any distro.02:34
icemanhey i'm hoping someone can help me to install ubuntu 5.10 brezzy dvd cd i just burned and am running right now, its the live/install cd but i didnt see it say anything about install when booting so where do i go once it loaded to install it on my system?02:34
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no_no_nochown02:34
eyequeuenopcode_, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop for gnome, kubuntu-desktop for kde, xubuntu-desktop for xfce ... they can all coexist on the same machine02:34
no_no_nookay02:34
no_no_nobrb02:35
no_no_nothanks02:35
nopcode_capiCrimm: i mean this really sounds like utter bullshit to me02:35
ZarephathDBO: I could see lots of options...but am still unsure exactly what needs there are in regard to the kids lab?02:35
capiCrimmnopcode_, why?02:35
starfishyon boot i get a kernel panic with RAMDISK: incomplete write (16384 != 32768)02:35
no_no_noi thought about edbuntu and its system02:35
DBOZarephath, I think he wants them to be able to log in, but doesnt want to give them write access to the drive02:35
no_no_nowhat is it ltps?02:35
nopcode_capiCrimm: because usually linux systems are multiuser02:35
capiCrimmnopcode_, so?02:35
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starfishyi tried different ramdisk sizes (the one from the defaults file on the CD and other sizes)02:35
starfishyno change02:36
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starfishynot even to the numbers02:36
capiCrimmnocode_, if you want you can install multiple wm/de on one box, and each user can use a different one.02:36
nopcode_capiCrimm: so? i'd have to think hard to come up with anything a distro could do window-manager specific02:36
icemancan anyone tell me how to install ubuntu though the dvd iso version?02:36
ZobaHi02:36
no_no_noive even thought about getting it the way i want and burning it onto a live cd02:36
nopcode_capiCrimm: that is, i don't understand the distribution/wm coupling at all.02:36
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ZarephathDBO: We both know that only works to a certain extent..unless they are dumb terms where the teacher provides the stuff and then it updates the terms...02:36
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starfishyhow do i set the ramdisk so it does not get incomplete writes?02:36
eyequeuenopcode_, install as many as you like and then let each user decide which the prefer to run02:36
no_no_nobut i have the icons and window manager set up so that its very sparse and theres not a lot of distractiosn02:36
capiCrimmnopcode_, it's just a program02:36
ZobaI'm writing a paper and I need to know some specifics on whats good about open source software, and/or the GPL.02:36
no_no_noin windows i edited the registry to remove shutdown, remove control panels etc02:37
nopcode_eyequeue, capiCrimm: so wtf is it with the different distros?02:37
icemanzoba you could google open-source02:37
icemanand its advantages02:37
DBOZarephath, ultimately thats true, the unix was not designed to provide a dummy environement...02:37
eyequeuenopcode_, calm down a sec, perhaps some history will make it clearer02:37
capiCrimmnopcode_, just what they install by default02:37
Zobaiceman, I keep coming across "speeds up development" and "free to consumers" and thats it02:37
nopcode_eyequeue: i'm listening02:37
ZarephathYou can control the ability to shutdown by user permissions..02:38
DBOno_no_no, if they dont have write access to their home directories (and provided that doesn't cause the funky side effects it will) they wont be able to make ANY permenant changes to the system02:38
nopcode_capiCrimm: to save the user from selecting something while installing?02:38
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DBOno_no_no, by default, so long as they arent a system admin, they cant shutdown the system (short of pressing the button)02:38
capiCrimmnopcode_, by distro's you mean different versions of Ubuntu?02:38
eyequeuenopcode_, ubuntu was first developed with GNOME in mind ... later, some folks wanted to have what they considered the benefits of ubuntu, but KDE-centric, hence kubuntu was born.  clearer?02:38
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Zobaiceman, I'm a devout windows user, and am trying to give open source a fair shake...but its seemingly impossible to write about it in a good light02:38
icemancan anyone give me a link to install ubuntu from the live/install DVD?02:39
DBOno_no_no, I take that back, they can with the GUI... there is a way to disable that...02:39
nopcode_capiCrimm: kubuntu etc, yeah02:39
eyequeuenopcode_, and of course xfce had proponents that eventually formed xubuntu02:39
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nopcode_eyequeue: i don't get it, the window-manager is nowhere a central component02:39
_jasonZoba: have you read about what ``free'' software actually means?02:39
icemanzoba, well its free and will always be free thats always a plus, and anyone can help devlop it thats an advantage of open source02:40
capiCrimmnopcode_, yeah it's pretty much the default software they install and what they focus on more than anything. If you really want you can get a fairly bare system by typing ``server'' at install.02:40
nopcode_eyequeue: there's scripts to fill the startup-menus for different wm's based on installed packages02:40
eyequeuenopcode_, there are "meta-packages" to pull in all the various dependencies for each, in a convenient manner, such as "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" but that's just for convenience02:40
Zoba_jason, there are several types...I'm reporting specifically on GNU GPL, but will include other types if necessary02:40
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_jasonubotu: tell Zoba about free02:40
nopcode_eyequeue: ok but that could easily be an option in the installer, couldn't it?02:40
capiCrimmnopcode_, like nubuntu is focused on security and speed I believe.02:41
DBOZoba, not to mention the security implications of open source.  The code is reviewed by thousands of developers world wide, and when an exploit IS found, it is often fixed in a matter of days, not months02:41
_jasonZoba: I mean free as in freedom, that's what makes free software so great imo02:41
ZarephathZoba: Actually "open source" started from a concept called the GNU license...which essentially means that anyone can have free access to the code to do with as they will....even if they modify it they can charge money...there are plenty of sources if you search google for them...try tuxmag..02:41
Zobaiceman, heh...those are the only two I keep running into02:41
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icemanwell whats good about closed-source?02:41
Cyraxis this not the "ubuntuforums" channel?02:41
ZobaDBO, thanks for that02:41
fires|workhow do i mount a usb drive?02:41
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_jasonCyrax: #ubuntuforums02:41
eyequeuenopcode_, sure, if the original design was "install any of the following", if could be, sure.  but again, the original intent was to be gnome-specific, the others came later02:41
capiCrimmdoes anyone know what I need to link to to compile a OpenGl program.02:41
Zobaiceman, it helps to economy and gives people jobs02:42
Cyraxit just says ubuntu not "ubuntuforums"02:42
_jasonfires|work: did you try just plugging it in? (gnome usually handles it for you)02:42
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fires|work_jason, not running gnome...02:42
lgcFlannelKing, do you know where are the messages generated at boot time stored?02:42
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DBOZoba, open source != non-profit02:42
aloonwhats the command to uninstall a deb package if you only have a terminal02:42
DBOZoba, a lot of open source companies, such as red hat, make money, provide jobs, and still use open source products02:42
bitwiseshiftleftfires|work: otherwise, you could try sudo mount /media/usbdrive /dev/sd[stuff...] 02:42
_jasoncan we move the open source/ free software talk to #ubuntu-offtopic please?02:42
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Zarephathaloon: man dpkg02:42
eyequeuealoon, dpkg --purge foo02:42
aloonthanks02:42
ZobaDBO, true but if you use the GNU GPL you have to supply the source code, dont you?02:42
bitwiseshiftleftfires|work: you'll have to create /media/usbdrive first02:43
DBOZoba, to offtopic we go02:43
ZarephathZoba: yes02:43
Zobaok02:43
capiCrimmZoba, read The Cathedral and the Bazaar02:43
lgcaloon, do you know why dpkg --purge fails?02:43
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aloonI havent tried yet02:43
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nopcode_eyequeue: hm but for me the window-manager is just a tool to start xterms and move windows02:43
nopcode_eyequeue: can't be hard to make that generic02:43
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capiCrimmZoba, infact just look at O'reilly, they make plenty of money off of Open Source Software.02:44
fires|workbitwiseshiftleft, ahh i almost had it. i was trying to use the wrong device02:44
fires|workthank you :)02:44
eyequeuenopcode_, i'm honestly more a CLI junkie myself, but i was trying to explain in terms of ubuntu02:44
nopcode_i tend to ask people who want an (integrated) desktop environment to use windows02:44
DBOZoba, join #ubuntu-offtpic02:44
nopcode_because that's microsoft's domain02:44
ZarephathcapiCrimm: What about canonical..offering free Ubuntu cds...mail them and pay for postage..the concept is here too...I don't know how profitable it is to this point..02:44
aloonIm helping a friend who upgraded a program called udev by accident and now it says needs higher kernel on boot udev error, is it possible to fix that?02:45
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nopcode_eyequeue: but still, branching is a decision that should not be taken lightly02:45
lgcanyone knowledgeable with palm->Ubuntu transfers?02:45
eyequeuenopcode_, i do however disagree about GUI's being a coprpration's domain, but i don't think that will ever be resolved on irc, heh02:45
nopcode_eyequeue: and i wonder why people would branch depending on a wm02:45
DewDudeanyone that knows nx know what's up with this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1245702:45
nopcode_eyequeue: well, ok apple is probably even better... but both of them can force certain design styles on the developers02:46
mischkoWhere to get firefox 1.5.0.1+ via apt?02:46
eyequeuenopcode_, even *emacs branched ... i guess it's whatever someone feels strongly enough about, and i do know i've seen some rather "religious wars" about wms, even though apparently neither you nor i feel that strongly about them ourselves02:47
nopcode_oh i do02:47
nopcode_but for me, they're still just an add-on02:47
nopcode_on top of an OS02:47
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ZoohouseHello everyone02:48
nopcode_eyequeue: i feel strongly for emacs too, and it's just an application as well ;)02:48
NanoBCNHi people. Stupid question. Can I mount an ftp share with the "mount" utility?02:48
nopcode_NanoBCN: yupo02:48
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nopcode_ehrm 'yup'02:48
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NanoBCNnopcode_, thanks, do you remember the syntax?02:49
nopcode_NanoBCN: no, never used it02:49
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NanoBCNI'm experiencing very weird things when mounting it from the GUI02:49
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nopcode_from what gui?!02:49
NanoBCNfolders change name if start with numbers and hide their content02:49
ZoohouseQuick question. I just bought a 19'' wide screen LCD monitor. I go to Sys Settings, Display and 1280 x 1024. How do I change the ress it can be bigger then 1280 x 1024 and for wide screen?02:50
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NanoBCNGUI = Desktop application "Connect to a server"02:50
nopcode_sys settings?02:50
nopcode_weird02:50
ZoohouseSystem Settings02:50
NanoBCNPlaces -> Connect to a server02:50
Zoohouseusing KDE02:50
Zoohousesorry02:50
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nopcode_are we talking about linux?02:50
Zoohouseyea02:50
nopcode_weird02:51
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NanoBCNand I was wondering that if I mount it from command line I might have a better result02:51
NanoBCNUbuntu 5.10 here02:51
no_no_nothanks.. yah when i turned them off with the power button on the case it quit to shell and i had to type in a password02:51
ZoohouseKDE's System settings02:51
no_no_noto get it to shut down...wild02:51
nopcode_NanoBCN: you should do everything from the command line02:51
nopcode_for flexibility and verbosity02:51
NanoBCNnopcode_, indeed, that's my opinion too, but since I don't remember now the syntax I gave a try to the GUI02:52
Kenseywhat's the date for the next release, and is it stable enough to start dist-upgrading yet?02:52
nopcode_guis tend to hide both02:52
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NanoBCNwell... don't remember mount nor fstab syntax for ftp...02:52
eyequeueNanoBCN, if you're looking for the command line sysntax, 'man 8 mount' should provide it in detail02:52
NanoBCNand can't find it...02:52
TennesseeHi all. Here's a general linux question. I'm trying to coordinate a group of people from related but different mailing lists. Can I set up a mailing list on my own p.c. to cross-post people's emails to each mailing list based on subject headers?02:52
nickgarveyeyequeue: what does putting a number in front of mount do?02:52
nickgarveyeyequeue: when searching the man page02:53
KenseyTennesse: you could, but it would likely be easier to set up another list or even a USENET server02:53
eyequeuenickgarvey, pulls from a specific "section" of the "manual" ... 8 grabs admin-ish commands02:53
nickgarveyoh thank you02:53
Kenseyare the lists all hosted on different servers?02:54
TennesseeKensey: I could set up something like a google group for the people involved, but it seems to me that there's some value in having the posts also go to the particular lists for general interest.02:54
TennesseeOne list is the python-au list, the other is mpug (a python list for Melbourne Aus).02:54
eyequeuenickgarvey, the last line in /etc/manpath.config probably lists the default order on your box, but "man man" should explain the concepts at least02:54
TennesseeBut there are slightly different people on each list.02:55
nickgarveyeyequeue: okie thanks again02:55
ninI'm completely new to this shit, I was wondering if someone could help me out with some basic things?02:55
eyequeuenickgarvey, np02:55
KenseyI'd say your best bet is to set up a third list02:55
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arrick!language02:55
ubotuPlease watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.02:55
dvdman_Good evening02:55
arrickwould be a good start02:55
lgceyequeue, "man 8 mount" gives the same result as "man mount"02:55
ninOh sorry02:55
Kenseymost mailing lists take a dim view of things autposted from other lists02:55
arricknp02:55
dvdman_any idea what this means02:55
djk_nin: basic things like manners?02:55
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TennesseeKensey: I think I agree. Well, my meeting is just about to start. I'd better get myself a pillow. See you all later.02:55
dvdman_E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)02:55
ninLike manners?02:55
eyequeuelgc, yes, 8 is probably the first section that had a "mount" page on your box, per that order, i'd guess02:56
ninI asked politely, just cussed... bleh. Sorry02:56
NanoBCNI looked for it but there is no mention to "ftp" in the whole manual...02:56
nopcode_uhm, for me that word is part of standard vocabulary02:56
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arrickanyone, how do I create a group with multiple users with access to only one folder and below?02:56
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aloonwhat is the command to check if you are online in a terminal session?02:56
dvdman_Aloon: ping www.google.com02:56
dvdman_?02:56
Kenseydvd: it means whatever dpkg was doing on behalf of apt failed with error code 202:56
dvdman_:)02:56
arrickping www.google.com02:56
dvdman_Kensey, really? :)02:56
eyequeuealoon, i don't know what you really want, but for me, i'd ping a remote site02:56
aloonthanks02:57
lgceyequeue, this is something I've never quite understood. The numbering in "man".02:57
Kenseythe numbering of sections is pretty much an arbitrary convention02:57
Kenseyit goes back what, 20-some years?02:57
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Kenseybut it's handy if for example you have both a system call "foo" and a user app "foo"02:58
eyequeuelgc, "man man" and in the first screen or two you should get a list of section numbers02:58
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Kenseyyou can say "man 1 foo" and you get the user utility02:58
nickgarveynin this is a bit dated, but still good http://ubuntuguide.org/02:58
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The-MoonDose anyone know where i can download the NVidia Kernel? http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_readme_install.html02:58
ninRight on, thank you02:58
arab-shit02:58
jadaz87!language02:59
ubotuPlease watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.02:59
nopcode_lol02:59
The-Moonsh*t aint a curse word02:59
arab-fuck. bitch. shit.02:59
arab-20:57 < nopcode> hm komisch02:59
arab-20:57 < nopcode> in #ubuntu auf freenode wird man verwarnt, wenn man 'shit' sagt02:59
arab-20:57 < nopcode> aber das ist doch standardvokabular?02:59
arab-20:58 < nopcode> so wie "stuff"?02:59
_jason!language02:59
ubotuPlease watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.02:59
arrick!ops02:59
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee02:59
eyequeuelgc, "man 5 filename" and "man 8 toolname" are handy distinctions when filename and toolname share the same spelling :)02:59
arab-<nopcode> hm strange02:59
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nopcode_The-Moon: my point03:00
The-Moon?03:00
nopcode_isn't it used interchangeably with 'stuff'?03:00
arrickok03:00
jadaz87!tell The-Moon about rules03:00
Kenseynot in English.03:00
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The-Moonok well i wont say.... the s word. But could anyone help me install my nividia drivers?03:00
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The-Mooni downloaded the run package from nvidia.com03:01
icemanwhat is lvm option during the install process ?03:01
The-Moonbut its asking for kernels yet dosent tell me where to get them from03:01
nickgarvey!tell The-Moon about nvidia03:01
ITSa341The-Moon   sounds like you and I are on the same project right now03:01
The-Mooni didnt get no msg for it....03:01
The-Moonword?03:01
icemanThe-Moon read the tab03:01
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lgceyequeue, can you give an example?03:01
eyequeueThe-Moon, in that case, in irc, try "/msg ubotu nvidia"03:02
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The-Mooniceman : i didnt get a prb msg about nvida03:02
nickgarveyThe-Moon: then do what eyequeue said03:02
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The-Moonoh wait03:02
The-Moonthere it goes03:02
nopcode_Kensey: well, that surely depends on what subset of english we're talking about03:02
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ifrJust installed Audacity and it can't find my sound card. Can anyone point me in the right direction?03:02
ITSa341The-Moon  I'm working on the nvidia drivers right now also but in Xandros 4, Hoping to get 3d acceleration working03:02
icemanwhats lvm during the install  process at the harddrive setup stage ..03:02
nopcode_Kensey: in hiphop, the word ist quite common03:02
nickgarveyifr: do other things work fine?03:02
Kenseyhey dvdman, when's the last time you updated your package list?03:03
nickgarveynopcode_: if you are still talking about swearing, I think common sense would be your best bet03:03
Kenseytry apt-get update then apt-get install whatever you were trying to do before03:03
nickgarveynopcode_: if common sense says you probably shouldn't say it, don't03:03
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ifrnickgarvey, hey! Yes, including audio playback!03:03
nopcode_nickgarvey: that's the issue, i use the word on a daily basis (speaking german, tho ;))03:04
ifrExcept in audacity03:04
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nickgarveyifr: hmm, let me get audacity (I am actually running suse right now but eh I'll try)03:04
aloonis it possible to upgrade your kernel thrugh apt-get?03:04
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joe_hey, this is a 300mhz computer with 256 megs of ram. a amd K603:04
nickgarveyaloon: if its in the repos..03:04
aloonokay thanks03:04
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joe_I have the accelerated NVIDIA drivers loaded, yet xwindows runs increadibly slow03:05
icemanwell i'll be crazy. Ubuntu does allow fat32 install ...03:05
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nickgarveyjoe_: I'd use damn small linux, if its really 300 mhz...03:05
eyequeuelgc, try these two commands:  man 5 crontab (you'll see the format for /etc/crontab, for example) then man 1 crontab (you'll see the syntax for /urs/bin/crontab)03:05
ITSa341joe_  how's it run with ubuntu on it?03:05
joe_what do you mean how does it run?03:05
ITSa341stable?03:05
joe_yeah, very.03:05
joe_why wouldn't it?03:05
ITSa341cool03:05
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nickgarveyiceman: I don't think.. I don"t think it will let you boot ubuntu from it, it can partition it..03:05
joe_it's jsut slow.03:05
joe_I was wondering why its so slow. Is it gnome?03:05
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icemanjust requires a swap ... now how to dump the swap and setup a swap file for ubuntu, and03:05
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icemanLinux can and will run from fat 32 ... used to be able ...03:06
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ITSa341My thinkpad 600 with a 266mhz p2 and 512 runs pretty good with ubuntu03:06
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lgceyequeue, thanks. But what number do I get with "man crontab"?03:06
joe_ITSa341, do you just use default GNOME?03:06
nickgarveyiceman: hmm I felt like I tried that once.. let me check google..03:06
ITSa341Yup03:06
joe_My question is, is it gnome that makes it run so slow? If so, what would be a better one to run?03:06
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joe_whats a super fast window manager03:06
nopcode_fvwm203:06
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_jasonjoe_: fluxbox03:06
sweatpeaHello Ubuntu folk, I am having some problems getting Hamachi to run03:07
nickgarveylgc: you get 103:07
joe_Its got to have decent functionality.03:07
djk_wmii03:07
joe_I'm not acutally joe, this is a friend of mines computer03:07
_jasonjoe_: have you tried xfce?03:07
joe_he had xp installed.. and..... hahaha03:07
nickgarveyjoe_: xfce is larger than flux but smaller than gnome also03:07
joe_just imagen that on 300mhz and 256 megs of ram03:07
nopcode_joe_: decent functionality? like what?03:07
joe_easy to use03:07
eyequeuelgc, if you type 'tail -1 /etc/manpath.config" you'll probably see a line that tells you how *your* box is configured ... i'll gues you would see the page from section 1 first, but you may have changed things from default03:07
ITSa341joe_ I run Xandros 4 with kde and soon xgl on my faster machine (3.0ghz p4 overclocked to 4.5ghz with active cooling to -30f ) but I like Gnome for the slower machines03:07
sweatpeaI get the message cannot run strip: no such file or directory I am am pretty new to linux and Ubuntu any suggestions?03:07
joe_Gnome he can get, I'm not sure how he would be with something else. Its been a long time since I've used linux and different window managers03:07
icemanwell damit .. i want linux on fat32 ... crapppppppp03:08
nickgarveyjoe_: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop03:08
joe_I was thinking that it might run faster with compiz seeing it would be completely ran by opengl03:08
joe_and his video card is a geforce 2..03:08
nickgarveyjoe_: that easy03:08
joe_but I dont think that it works with geforce2s anyway03:08
eyequeuelgc, again, "man man" has background on the various sections, if you're interested03:08
joe_KDE would run faster than gnome?03:08
joe_wait that would be kbuntu would it03:08
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ITSa341joe_ compiz and xgl are fast but I'm not sure about the processor and memory load03:08
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joe_yeah good point03:09
acid-trip!glxgears03:09
ubotuTo display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"03:09
ITSa341joe_ gnome is faster than kde for me03:09
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icemanread todat fat32 is actualy faster read / write than ext2 ...03:09
lgceyequeue, I get "SECTION         1 n l 8 3 2 3posix 3pm 3perl 5 4 9 6 703:09
joe_but the reason it IS so slow is becuase of the window managers right?03:09
djk_does the [Ku|U] ubuntu live-cd come with gparted or qtparted or just parted?03:09
The-Moonawsome making progress now03:09
joe_becuase I remember running linux fine on a 300mhz03:09
eyequeuelgc, yes, as i suspected, on your box, 1 comes before 503:09
joe_with xwindows back in the day03:09
icemanI just wat a linux install, that will run from a fat32 harddrive ... and boot from loadlin03:09
nopcode_joe_: most of that desktop-stuff has massive overhead03:09
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lgceyequeue, I get "SECTION         1 n l 8 3 2 3posix 3pm 3perl 5 4 9 6 7". What is that, though?03:10
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eyequeuelgc, but as you may have just figured out, you can reconfigure that if you prefer :)03:10
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joe_nop, so what is your recommendation03:10
AeudianI have 2 Ubuntu Systems how come my one system has a GUI when booting and my other system doesnt?03:10
ifrnickgarvey, any luck :)03:10
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joe_and besides that, is there anything I can do to tweak the speed? Like WinXP has with classic mode and turning off effects, for example03:10
dainanakiaeudian, probably xconf is messed is up03:10
sweatpeahello, I am a newb and need some help is this a good place to ask?  I don't want to break netiquite03:11
nopcode_joe_: use one of those that were recommended... i think it was fvwm2, fluxbox, xfce03:11
joe_ok thank you03:11
bur[n] erAeudian: messed up xorg.conf?03:11
_jasonsweatpea: perfect place, just don't ask for permission to ask :)03:11
ITSa341joe_ kde is starting to get bloated and use a lot of rescources like that "other os"  with the machine you are running gnome or another simple window manager like they are recommending03:11
nopcode_i can only speak for fvwm2 but it is _very_ performant03:11
MisterNn803:11
Aeudianbur[n] er: only installed nvidia drivers which goofed at first but work now03:11
joe_I should totally just dump him to a console mode only03:11
joe_and be like "heres the aim client, heres lynx....... good luck"03:11
eyequeuelgc, that is the configuration line that specifies what the default section ordering is, if you don't specify a section number on the command line03:11
bur[n] erAeudian: so what's the problem? ;)03:11
ifrsweatpea, sure it: state what you got, what you want and what's not working, and someone will try to help ;)03:12
sweatpeaThanks _Jason  I am having some problem installing Hamachi under Ubuntu.  The error i get after running Make Install is "install:  cannot run strip: No such file or directory03:12
dainanakiis anyone knowledgable about the "lookup" command?03:12
Aeudianbur[n] er: none really just curious why one booted in a gui like when first starting and another didnt03:12
joe_firefox scrolls so slowww03:12
ifrnickgarvey you still with us?03:12
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nickgarveyifr: eek what03:13
ifrHey!03:13
_jasonsweatpea: what is hamachi?03:13
ifrJust checking to see if you had any luck with that audacity.03:13
nickgarveyifr: yeah some source is messed up, still getting audacity03:13
dainanakii'm trying to lookup cpu/os type with lookup, but i'm not really sure what i'm looking for03:13
sweatpeait is a really cool vpn client, I have used it win the Windows world.  www.hamachi.cc03:13
eyequeuelgc, man -S allows you to override that, or the $MANSECT environment variable (more info than you really care about, i suspect)  "man man" tells all, if you really want more03:13
ifrGotchya. I appreciate the help03:13
_jasonsweatpea: I see, have you installed build-essential?03:13
sweatpeano, how do I do that?03:14
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Aeudian1 more question, when a new Ubuntu comes out say 6.06 does that mean we have to reinstall unbutu or can we apt-get the upgrades?03:14
dainanakianyone?03:14
_jasonsweatpea: sudo aptitude install build-essential checkinstall, that gets you build-essential and checkinstall, which I'll explain to you in a bit03:14
dainanakiapt-get dist upgrade03:14
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OrTigaShi! why i cant see the open Window$ Network on my Box?03:14
eyequeueAeudian, basically, two commands:  sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:15
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cewhello03:15
Aeudianeyequeue: thanks03:15
hyphenatedOrTigaS: where are you looking?03:15
eyequeueAeudian, obviously the d/l could be significant :)03:15
OrTigaShyphenated,  all other window$ pc on our network03:15
nickgarvey!tell OrTigaS about samba03:15
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dainanakiyeah03:15
sweatpeathanks _jason I will try it out and come back. :)  You guys are way more friendly then the windows community03:15
OrTigaSnickgarvey,  already installed03:15
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Aeudianeyequeue: hehe yea =P03:16
dainanakiOrTigaS, you have to cinfigure it too03:16
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Doomhammerguys i have a question about apt... "apt-get upgrade" will check for updated packages and install them... but is there a way to force apt to check for updates, but not actually install them ?03:16
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crimsunDoomhammer: -d03:16
Apostle^Doomhammer: sudo apt-get update03:16
_jasonsweatpea: I recommend using checkinstall instead of make install, checkinstall will create a .deb to install so it will be easier to remove later if you want to03:16
eyequeueAeudian, oh, you'd want to change "breezy" to "dapper" first of course (un /etc/apt/sources.list) using whatever tool you prefer03:16
Doomhammercrimsun: sudo apt-get -d update ? sounds good :)03:16
OrTigaSi was wondering on this box because i saw it before and now it wont show :(03:16
hyphenatedOrTigaS: nobody will hurt you if you say "windows". and you're on an ubuntu machine, ya? which program are you looking in, expecting to see windows machines?03:17
cewhello03:17
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nopcode_eyequeue: so which ubuntu branch would i use if i want a minimal X with fvwm2?03:17
dainanakiI still need some help with Lookup- how do I interpret the information03:17
sweatpeacheckinstall03:17
OrTigaSyea it window machine in our network03:17
lgceyequeue, I see you're a "man" connossieur. I celebrate that. I really don't have the interest in reading the 500+ lines of the "man" man in order to operate it properly. That's why I've been using it in such a limited fashion for so long. But now that you enlightened me, your point is that I can configure "man" in order to make it work in such a way that, for example "man 1 man" gives me the games info? What would I want to do that for?03:17
fury|Smokequake3 rocks on ubuntu 6.0603:17
fury|Smokewahooo03:17
_jasonsweatpea: and you will probably need to use sudo with that command, so 'sudo checkinstall'03:17
crimsunDoomhammer: no, update doesn't matter for -d. You want -d for dist-upgrade.03:17
eyequeuenopcode_, i'd probably start with vanilla ubuntu, tell it i wanted the "server" installation, and install individual packages beyond that, but that's me03:17
OrTigaSi also want it to share.. it just only show this box but cant access...03:18
varsmy /etc/resolv.conf keeps rewriting to some windows SH**03:18
nimai can't install any packages on my ubuntu, my respositories dont seem to be configured properly03:18
CraiZEuhm03:18
Aeudianeyequeue: not sure what un is and yes i want to change to dapper03:18
CraiZEcan anyone tell me how to mount a usb hdd in usb 2.0 mode?03:18
nimaanyone can help?03:18
eric_Evening all03:18
Doomhammercrimsun: so i just want apt-get upgrade, but i don't want it to prompt me to intsall the updates... just tell me how many are availible03:18
nimahere is the error msg: W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:18
varsi have a script that echos the right name sever but it re writes it a few minutes later03:18
nickgarvey!tell nima about repos03:18
crimsunDoomhammer: then use -s or something instead of -d03:19
eyequeuelgc, well, no, man 1 will always give you the /usr/bin/foo things, rather than the /usr/games/foo things ... some might want section 5 (games) to be the default on their box ... dunno, a kid-box maybe?  the point is just that you *can*configure03:19
dainanakinima, try googling ubuntu repositories to find a lovely repository configuration03:19
nickgarveynima: eek take off the cd03:19
sweatpeaThanks _jason, it seems to be working now :)03:19
hyphenatedOrTigaS: are you having trouble accessing other windows machines from ubuntu, or is the trouble accessing the ubuntu machine from a windows machine?03:19
nickgarvey!aptcd03:19
_jasonsweatpea: great03:19
CraiZE!help usb 2.003:19
ubotuto turn off apt-get from trying to install from the cd, comment out the line (put a # in front of it) that says "deb cdrom:"03:19
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Doomhammercrimsun: okay03:19
varssomeone please help me03:19
eyequeueAeudian, "un" was a typo for "in" , sorry03:19
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OrTigaShyphenated, it wont show the windows machine... and when i share this box i cant access it ask a paswd03:19
eyequeuelgc, may i teach you one handy man page trick?03:19
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icemancrap how to remaster ubuntu to run from fat32 ...03:20
lgceyequeue, be my guest.03:20
void^run from fat32..?03:20
eyequeuelgc, "man man" then hit slash and a string and enter, like say: /section .... it will search for the string "section" ... n for "next" a few times, voila, now you're an expert, heh03:20
Doomhammericeman: i have only one question... why the hell would you want to do that ? :P03:20
ITSa341iceman  why?03:21
BlueSwirlvars: what's the problem?03:21
Aeudianeyequeue: so would i replace Breezy with Dapper?03:21
varsmy /etc/resolv.conf keeps rewriting to some windows SH**03:21
BlueSwirlwell, i'm out of my depth03:21
OrTigaSit only show the Windows Network but when i click it wont show the Windows Machines03:21
BlueSwirlsorry vars :(03:21
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icemanread write a windows drive and windows filesystem, have access to a command line i know "dos"03:21
icemanuntil i learn the linux command line03:22
eyequeueAeudian, when you are ready to change to the next version of ubuntu, change all occurences of "breezy" to "dapper" (lowercase) and then run those two commands ... i don't typically recommend that before release day :)03:22
lgceyequeue, that is basic "more" stuff, not to mention "vi" subtleties...03:22
OrTigaSbefore that it ask me to login first to windows machine one by one... but all i know it all open03:22
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eyequeuelgc, exactly!  most don't recognize they are in the pager "less" (a more variant) but you did, bravo03:22
icemanhate windows more each day, and trash linux installs to stinking often....03:23
ericlsxany chinese here03:23
_jason!zh03:23
ubotuFor support in Chinese, please try the channel #ubuntu-zh.03:23
eyequeuelgc, you talked of having to scroll, so that sslash-search seemed good to pass on03:23
ericlsxOK,thanks03:23
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icemanused to actualy be a few distros that would run umsdos ...03:24
Aeudianeyequeue: thank you for your help you answered a lot =P03:24
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ITSa341iceman  have you tried win4linPro ?  Run WinXP in a window sharing one filesystem with ubuntu!03:24
eyequeueAeudian, no prob, and yes dapper is there already, i'm running it, i just don't routinely tell others to until release day :)03:24
ninHow do I run my terminal? I'm not finding it in App -> Sys Tools03:25
dainanakii'm trying to figure out the network tools in 6.0603:25
nickgarveyifr: is something else using your sound card? like a music player?03:25
dainanakihow does lookup work?03:25
profApp - Accessories03:25
eyequeuenin, Applications > Accessories?03:25
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ninAhh, thanks.03:25
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icemanITSa341 never herd of it ..03:25
Aeudianeyequeue: yea i dont really use my unix box that much its more of a learning experience so im not worried if i blow stuff up that much =P03:26
eyequeuenin, i do think one terminal-variant puts it under the other heading, confusingly03:26
lgceyequeue, I might not know many things, but such stuff I teach my newbie students (and perhaps you wonder why I have problems with "man": well, I'm a lazy man!). As for the level of this channel I declare myself quite incompetent!03:26
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Aeudianeyequeue: until i can run world of warcraft with ease maybe ill be on unix 24/7 =P03:26
ninWell jeez, this isn't letting me load it... hrm03:26
eyequeueheh03:26
icemanITSa341got a url03:26
ITSa341Win4LinPro   lets you run WinXP and Linux simultaneously sharing one filesystem, and unlike win4lin9x it's reasonably fast on a modern machine03:26
no_no_no heya its me again.. anyone have advice on setting up ubuntu in a lab for kids.. chown on the directory?03:26
ifrnickgarvey - Ah, maybe maybe03:27
ITSa341iceman   brb03:27
ifrLet me check03:27
eyequeuelgc, i'm never sure the level of expertise in here until i know the person for a while, hope you don't take offense03:27
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icemanITSa341 using a amd 700 for the linux box ... 256 meg ram ... 10 gig hdd03:27
ifrnickgarvey, mplayer had been opened but was not playing. Now it is off completely but still no soap03:28
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profno_no_no, do you want to change ownership of directories?03:28
ITSa341iceman  http://win4lin.com/    might be a problem with only 256mb ram and 10gb drive03:28
nickgarveyifr: firefox maybe? anything?03:28
no_no_noi dunno.. thats what people said to do.03:28
ifrHmmmmmmm03:28
no_no_noi really dont know anything.. im trying ro read the wiki..but its still written for engineers03:28
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no_no_noSave it. Now make it executable with sudo chmod 700 /etc/cron.weekly/apt-security-updates and you're done!03:29
no_no_nodo what?03:29
no_no_nohow am i supposed to do all that?03:29
eyequeueno_no_no, lol, i can see that would be intimidating03:29
icemanITSa341cant yet devots this p4 system to linux ... soon03:29
ITSa341iceman I'm running it on a p4 3.0 overclocked to 4.5 with a custom cooler with a gb ram and 4 120gb drives. It does run well though03:29
ifrnickgarvey, everything's off - everything, and still - there was an error initializing the audio i/o layer. You will not be able to play or record audio03:29
ifrI could, ya know, google the error ;)03:29
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nickgarveyifr: yes something else is, that's the same error I got03:30
ifrAAAAH!03:30
nickgarveyifr: I closed amarok and it worked03:30
Kuyaedzcan anyone tell me the .conf file to activate/setup Remote Desktop?03:30
nickgarveyifr: check ps ax03:30
icemanITSa341refirgerant cooled ?03:30
ITSa341iceman   amazing how well they run at -30 to -40f processor temp03:30
ifroh03:30
eyequeueno_no_no, start with non-numeric commands at first, i'd say, rwx, == ReadWriteeXecute, for example03:30
KuyaedzI don't have GUI access but need to turn it on from the terminal.03:30
no_no_nowhat is this cron thing? we used to use it on macs in the lab to reimage them03:30
profno_no_no, open up a terminal and type exactly that " sudo chmod 700 /etc/cron.weekly/apt-security-updates"03:30
ITSa341peltiers stacked with copper spreaders and a large thermaltake03:30
no_no_nocan i have them reimage every night?03:30
nickgarvey!tell no_no_no about cron03:30
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ifrnickgarvey, what am I grepping for though03:30
no_no_nommkay03:30
icemanITSa341you run a refigerant cooled cpu ...03:30
profno_no_no, this will change the permissions of that file to executable for the owner "root"03:31
lgceyequeue, I know it from seeing things (concepts, recipes...) flying above my head all the time!03:31
no_no_nobut do i have to go to every machine or can i do it from one place like with remote desktop?03:31
ITSa341iceman peltiers stacked with copper spreaders and a large thermaltake03:31
icemancool... got photos ?03:31
ITSa341iceman  I'm running a separate power supply at 16v for the peltiers03:31
lgceyequeue, how are you fixed for an lm-sensors question?03:31
profno_no_no, cron is a demon to run programs or scripts at specified times03:31
varsmy /etc/resolv.conf keeps rewriting to some windows03:31
no_no_noohh thats neat. that tell thing03:31
ITSa341iceman   I can get you some    PM me03:31
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eyequeueno_no_no, okay, it depends what you have set up there, but yes you *can* do it from remotely (such as with the scp command)03:32
dliany good dual monitor howto?03:32
no_no_nowell. id draw a network diagram03:32
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nickgarveyifr: try killall gdm, (this will kill your gui, and this irc session) and then start it again with sudo gdm, then try audacity03:32
ifrcool, will do03:32
profno_no_no, you can log into the machine via a remote desktop. What machine are you trying to log into from?03:32
paxroot!03:32
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icemani need a better book on linux command line03:33
root_I'm having a problem. I reinstalled my system and saved my Home directory to a USB disk. I just tried to copy michael_bak to /home/ but it tells me there is not enough space03:33
no_no_no6 workstations on a hub. linked to a gateway router... other computers on the router, another wifi router on the router.... one mac running ubuntu, the 6 pcs are running ubuntu, everything else is xp03:33
paxiceman google.03:33
root_why does it say this?03:33
no_no_nothis is nonprofit... and we dont have the budget to keep updating ms office and stuff03:33
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_jasoniceman: tldp.org, linuxcommand.org, and google for ``linux rute''03:33
ITSa341iceman   the only linux book is an oreilly from 1998  or 1999  LOL  I know the feeling03:34
icemani got linux compete 2ed edition ... but very little explanition on linux command line03:34
nickgarveylinux for dummies fails at life..03:34
nickgarveyits just bad...03:34
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icemanwould not bu a dummies book if you twisted my arm ..03:34
nickgarveyyeah what was I thinking03:35
icemanLinux Complete is still x11 commands ...03:35
ITSa341iceman  I started using linux in 1999 but quit for a while. A lot of what is in that book is VERY outdated so I try to use google or this room instead03:35
nickgarveyit came with a fedora core 3 dvd though heh03:35
MTecknologygreat, another session w/o help..03:35
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nickgarvey!tell MTecknology about patience03:35
profno_no_no, for graphical login use vnc or xdmcp (look at terminal server client) app -> internet. For non/semi graphical, I would use ssh. ex. "ssh -X username@ipaddress03:36
icemanonce i grasp a understanding and rememberance of the linux command line in releation to dos, i'd feel comfortable to a complete deveotion to linux03:36
nickgarveyMTecknology: you are logged in as root also, bad idea03:36
paxdarn right03:36
MTecknologynickgarvey, i t4hought it might be a permission problem03:36
icemanITSa341 could devote 40 gig  to linux, and win4lin ...03:36
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nickgarveyMTecknology: ok.. then set the permissions right03:37
paxnever irc as root son03:37
nickgarveyMTecknology: although it seems like there might not be enough space03:37
profno_no_no, for ssh to work install ssh-client and server and make sure you change /etc/host.allow to allow access from remote machines03:37
cgeMTecknology: what was your question?03:37
ITSa341iceman   I have 5 comps in this room with legal WinXP and have linux on all 5. I will admit that win4lin runs winxp on two of them but I haven't even ran it for weeks03:37
lgceyequeue, you there?03:37
eyequeuelgc, hi03:37
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ITSa341iceman   that would help a lot. What kind of ram that machine take?03:37
icemanITSa341 have devoted more and more time recently to linux ...03:38
eyequeuelgc, half here, half phone, what's up?03:38
lgceyequeue, do you know anything about lm-sensors?03:38
MTecknologycge, why i can't copy, i have 48G left and my USB is holding about 150M, I just realised the only a small portion of my home directory was copied03:38
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icemanITSa341 AMD 700 pc100 sdram03:38
nickgarveyMTecknology: perhaps quotas03:38
eyequeuelgc, i'm probably less fluent than some in here, i get a "fail" when mine starts, and have not yet bothered tracking it down03:38
cgeMTecknology: what are you trying to copy?03:38
ITSa341iceman   how big of a stick will it recognize and are you paying postage?03:38
icemanITSa341 PIII across the room, using pc133 ram ...03:38
eyequeuelgc, i'm fairly sure this laptop does not have a hdd temp sensor, and i just need to disable the check for that03:39
MTecknologycge, nickgarvey, it's a feresh install of Ubuntu trying to copy my backup home directory to /home/03:39
ITSa341<-- has boxes of leftover pc66, pc100, pc133 and rdram 80003:39
icemanITSa341 i'd have to check the mobo03:39
CraiZEeyequeue, s.m.a.r.t. (its in the hdd actually) does the temp sensing :)03:39
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lgceyequeue, that's exactly my problem. I don't know what I need to tweak!03:40
profMTecknology, did you look in Trash. I dont know how you know how much available space is on the device. Did you look at "du" output03:40
cgeMTecknology: how? With cp? Have you tried with cp -v to see what goes wrong?03:40
eyequeueCraiZE, cool, so it's a matter of something else triggering "fail"?  or i need to config somethin?03:40
ITSa341iceman  I can see at least 3 356mb sticks complete with heatsinks on them from where I am sitting03:40
CraiZEeyequeue, that i dont know :(03:40
ITSa341Iceman *256*03:40
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lgceyequeue, how do I know if I have a fan sensor and the like?03:41
Aeudianeyequeue: hey another question, whats a braille driver? it wants me to choose one03:41
icemanITSa341where you from03:41
blindxIt appears that you are accessing Myspace.com from a location that is not authorized to view our licensed videos. Please go to the United States or its territories and try again.03:41
cgeAeudian: its a bug!03:41
Warlord384how do i end an ap. in CLI?03:41
blindxis this because of my browser, or because of ubuntu? o.O03:41
ITSa341iceman   Bear Lake MI03:41
Warlord384ubuntuserver to be exact03:41
HobbseeWarlord384: killall appname03:42
nickgarveyMTecknology: its .45 not 45. ;)03:42
eyequeuelgc, manual came with hardware?  website advertising specific features? :)03:42
cgeAeudian: bug #3983503:42
Warlord384Hobbsee: well, its an apache thing03:42
no_no_nookay another dumb question : trying to drag a file to the cron folder i dont have privs... i know what sudo is03:42
Warlord384Hobbsee: and i need to save the data03:42
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Warlord384Hobbsee: its the ports conf. thing03:42
no_no_nohow does that work with dragging a file?03:42
MTecknologycge, prof, using -v it tells me cp: missing destination file03:42
Hobbseeoh ok03:42
eyequeueAeudian, i chose the default, as i don't have a brailler device here03:42
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Warlord384Hobbsee: how?03:42
Hobbseei dont know03:42
riddleboxno_no_no,  you may want to just sudo cp the file into the cron folder03:43
cgeAeudian: It will break your serial port, though.03:43
MTecknologynickgarvey, ty for that tip ;)03:43
The-MoonDose anyone know how i can disabled my on board sound card, so i can use my sound blaster for sound?03:43
no_no_nosudo cp? okay03:43
eyequeueAeudian, braille, if you don't know, is the "bumps" that a blind person can sometimes read with03:43
lgceyequeue, I don't think I came across anything like that on the hw manuals.03:43
DBOThe-Moon, you can disable it in BIOS if you want03:43
ITSa341iceman  check your pm's03:43
The-Moonmy bios dosent let me disable it03:43
riddleboxno_no_no, from a terminal try man cp03:43
Aeudianeyequeue: lol well no worries then dont use serial03:43
no_no_nooh.. this is hard03:43
essienhow do i disable services ? i am using BUM,but i cannot find the service i notice when i reboot ie bluetooth03:44
no_no_nosudo cp and i have to put arguments for locations.. I dunno where this stuff is03:44
profMTecknology, what do the output of this return. ls -l /home/ . Does it list files you think are on the device03:44
cgeAeudian: of course, this is only in dapper, if I recall correctly. It should be fixed by release.03:44
eyequeueAeudian, chose a serial port that you don't use :)  i had no /dev/ttyS0 here, so used that, heh03:44
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profMTecknology, I'm thinking you might not have it mounted03:44
Aeudiancge: thanks03:44
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Aeudianeyequeue: no worries i don't have any serial items03:44
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riddleboxno_no_no, if you found the cron folder you should know the path for it already, now just cd into the dir with the file you want to cp then issue the command03:44
eyequeueAeudian, yes, i gathered you switched to dapper :)  support for that is in another channel btw, for future reference:  #ubuntu+103:45
icemanITSa341k7 pro mobo "msi"03:45
green__saotomecan anyone help me setting up a vncserver on dapper?03:45
eyequeuegreen__saotome, #ubuntu+1 may be of help03:45
ITSa341iceman   brb03:45
riddleboxno_no_no, something like "sudo cp /path/to/file /path/to/cronfolder"03:45
MTecknologyprof, /home/ returns michael but ls -l /media/usbdisk/michael_bak/ returns nothing03:45
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Aeudianeyequeue: thanks03:45
eyequeuenp03:45
MTecknologyprof, i'll try to remount03:45
nickgarvey666 people in here03:45
green__saotomeeyequeue, mi problem is not dapper, it's just that i don't know how to set up the vnc server03:46
no_no_noi figured that out.. but it still wont work i think i need to capitalize desktop03:46
nickgarveygreen__saotome: which one are you looking into?03:46
riddleboxgreen__saotome, dont you just type vncserver in a terminal and pick a password?03:46
MTecknologyprof, still no go03:46
nickgarveyno_no_no: Desktop != desktop!03:46
cgeMTecknology: Does it show up in mount ?03:46
green__saotomevncserver03:46
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green__saotomerealvnc03:47
nickgarveyapt-get installed it?03:47
profMTecknology, could it be mounted read only?03:47
MTecknologyyea, i can view the files in nautilus03:47
_sHaDen8 all03:47
green__saotomeyes, without any complaints03:47
riddleboxgreen__saotome, is that in windows?03:47
green__saotomebut when i try to connect to the machine, i get no answer03:47
lgceyequeue, see, there are some things I haven't had answers for. One is the thing with lm-sensors, another one is how to disable the "#$#"$ touchpad while I type, etc.03:47
no_no_nohow do i login as administrator so i can use the GUI?03:47
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green__saotomenope, ubuntu03:47
green__saotomein windows, it works fine :(03:47
MTecknologyprof, are we referring to /home/ of */usbdisk/03:47
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nickgarveygreen__saotome: how are you connecting to it?03:48
OrTigaShi! why i cant see the open Window$ Network on my Box? but before it shows? any idea why?03:48
riddleboxgreen__saotome, if you type real then hit tab it will tell you all commands that start with real03:48
GigaClonis there a GUI SVN client in the ubuntu repos?03:48
nickgarveygreen__saotome: you might not have java installed03:48
profMTecknology, /usbdisk03:48
MTecknologyprof, it's 70003:48
green__saotomei'm a java developer03:48
green__saotomei can assure you i hava java installed03:48
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nickgarveygreen__saotome: okie dokie then, but you said the server is installed?03:48
profMTecknology, what command are you using to mount03:48
nickgarveygreen__saotome: and working?03:48
green__saotomewell, i'm not sure it's working03:48
icemanITSa341 supports 768 meg total03:48
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MTecknologyprof, auto mount03:49
green__saotomei can't seem to connect to the machine03:49
ITSa341iceman   looking now03:49
MTecknologyhotplug*03:49
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green__saotomeit's accesible, i can connect using ssh, but not vnc03:49
eyequeuelgc, i've seen one brand of laptop where you can disable the touchpad, but sadly i didn't buy that one03:49
hawk_wolfOkay, I need some help.03:49
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riddleboxgreen__saotome, in vncviewer you have to put something like 192.168.0.1:103:49
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icemanITSa341 http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=23203:49
eyequeuelgc, it had a switch next to the touchpad03:49
nickgarveyriddlebox: most likely :590103:49
Dolmanyone here know much about alien arena?03:49
GBRnope03:50
icemanITSa341 768 is it's max point03:50
green__saotomei generally don't include the port number03:50
profMTecknology, and it shows up ok with "mount"03:50
riddleboxnickgarvey, thats the port vnc works on right?03:50
green__saotomebut i'll try that out just in case03:50
lgceyequeue, it seems to be a common beef. It should be incorporated in the Linux kernel!03:50
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MTecknologyprof, I can view it in nautilus, but can't allter anything03:50
nickgarveyriddlebox: for every vnc server I have used (which is like 3 heh)03:50
johanbrlgc: There is an option for the touchpad driver to disable it when a key is pressed. Don't remember what it's called offhand.03:50
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nickgarveyriddlebox: 5900 or 5901 for client connect, 5800 or 5801 for web connect03:51
Gcastinhi03:51
MTecknologyprof, from CLI, how do i unmount and remount with 77703:51
riddleboxgreen__saotome, usually when you issue the vncserver command it will say it is 192.168.0.1:x and x is the screen number or something03:51
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nickgarveyMTecknology: man mount03:51
riddleboxnickgarvey, I have never had to use the port number on a machine inside my network03:51
hawk_wolfI'm trying to install guidedog on my system but can't remembert the command03:51
nickgarveyriddlebox: that's probably because it assumed it was 590003:51
icemanITSa341 i need to break down and get a new socket 754 MOBO... my 64 bit is down until i get a new mobo03:51
hawk_wolfis it sudo apt-get install guidedog ?03:51
Gcastinjust installed from the Install ISO CD, and i'm trying to compile any program, i get configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH03:51
profMTecknology, sudo umount /path/to/mounted/device03:51
Gcastincan anybody assist03:51
lgcjohanbr, that's interesting! Can you give me a further clue? (Where to look, for example).03:51
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ITSa341iceman   pm me03:52
riddleboxnickgarvey, when I issue the vncserver command I see this:03:52
riddleboxNew 'X' desktop is tvserver:103:52
riddleboxso I type the ip address of tvserver in and put:1 after it03:52
cgelgc: man synaptics?03:52
profMTecknology, then something like this "/home/Mike /proc/bus/usb usbfs auto,user=0777 0 0"03:52
eyequeuelgc, sensors -s tells me no sensors found, that may be my fail03:52
Aeudianriddlebox: did you kill any existing vnc connections possible frozen or errored?03:52
no_no_nothanks for your help03:53
no_no_nogoodnight!03:53
lgccge, no-go.03:53
profMTecknology, not sure if /proc/bus/usb will work for you, depends on where the device is03:53
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hawk_wolfit says can't find guidedog03:53
cgelgc: Are you using the synaptics driver for the touchpad, or something else?03:53
profMTecknology, I forgot the mount command. Make sure you put mount before the commands I pasted03:54
lgceyequeue, same thing for me. Though I can get a temp and batt charge reading with "acpi"03:54
lgccge how can I know?03:54
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Gcastinanybody on my question?03:54
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cgelgc: you could look in xorg.conf, and search for synaptics.03:54
ITSa341iceman   do you have a stick in each slot now or just one 256mb stick and two empty slots.....03:54
riddleboxAeudian, I dont have any problems accessing vnc stuff03:55
StarOceanI am just wondering if there will be any REAL advantages to use the 64bit version over the 32bit one.03:55
nickgarveyriddlebox: yeah that's specifying the screen, I do that with x-servers also03:55
MTecknologyprof, root@michael:~# /media/usbdisk/ /proc/bus/usb usbfs auto,user=0777 0 003:55
umarmungGcastin: install build-essential first03:55
MTecknologybash: /media/usbdisk/: is a directory03:55
johanbrlgc: Alright, found it. Turned out it was just disabling, nothing to do with keypresses, but still: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/24/disable-synaptics-touchpad/03:55
riddleboxnickgarvey, ohh well he is gone now so it doesnt matter anymore :)03:55
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lgccge it IS synaptics indeed.03:56
Gcastinumargung ahh ok let me try03:56
icemanITSa341 2x 128 meg sticks ... just built the system for 15 bucks and some spare harddrives ...03:56
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hawk_wolfI can't get apt-get to find the package I need. any solutions?03:56
profMTecknology, dont forget the mount before all that03:56
_jasonhawk_wolf: what package?03:56
cgehawk_wolf: apt-cache search03:56
hawk_wolfguidedog03:56
The-Moondose anyone know what the apt-get "file" is for soundblaster drivers?03:57
profMTecknology, sudo mount /media/blah blah blah03:57
ITSa341iceman  I used to buy crates of leftover parts from a local shop and build comps for the neighborhood kids with them03:57
hawk_wolfI'll try the apt-cache search03:57
_jason!info guidedog03:57
ubotuguidedog: (NAT/masquerading/port-forwarding configuration tool for KDE), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0.0-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 121 kB, Installed size: 440 kB03:57
_jasonhawk_wolf: have you enabled universe?03:57
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ITSa341iceman   private message me03:57
MTecknologyprof, what was the blah part ot it?03:57
hawk_wolfahh, I may not have this is a fresh install.03:57
hawk_wolflet me try that, brb03:57
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profMTecknology, try this "mount /media/usbdisk/ /home/Mike usbfs auto,user=0777 0 003:58
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icemanITSa341check pm03:58
cgelgc: You can add Option "PalmDetect" "true" to the synaptics InputDevice section to have the touchpad disable itself when it detects a palm, but I can't find anything that disables it while you are typing.03:58
hawk_wolfwait wait wait, can I enable universe from the command line?03:58
eyequeuelgc, i also get those from gkrelllm, so i know there is a chipset that supports it03:58
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cgehawk_wolf: Uncomment the universe lines from /etc/apt/sources.list03:58
mischko!xine03:58
DBOhawk_wolf, yes, if you use vi03:58
ubotumischko: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:58
DBOhawk_wolf, or nano...03:58
eyequeuelgc, s/lll/ll/03:58
hawk_wolfvi, nano, ?03:58
ferrouswheelhi all, i'm trying to install a 32bit chroot but when configuring the locales (dpkg-reconfigure locales) i get errors about locales not being installed. can anybody help?03:58
Dolmim having some wierd issues, when i try to run alien arena nothing happens (specifically clicking the link from the applications bar) if i switch my sound from one to another, ie esd to also or somehting, and try to run it, it will start but the mouse wont move03:59
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ITSa341iceman   hmm I didn't get a pm   not sure I like this kopete messenger03:59
Dolmand either way i get no sound from it03:59
cquillencan anyone tell me how to make tty1 load on start up instead of Xwindows?03:59
eyequeuelgc, i suspect if i knew an actual chipset (somehow??) i could tweak /etc/sensors.conf03:59
MTecknologyprof, it just gives me the same info as mount --help04:00
Gcastinumarmung -> thanks that worked.04:00
cgecquillen: Turn off gdm/kdm startup04:00
eyequeuelgc, but i have no source of chipset id info for this laptop04:00
cgecquillen: with update-rc.d04:00
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ninAlright, I have a question guys.04:00
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iceman_there i am .. on linux box04:00
cgenin: You can just ask, there is no need to tell us.04:01
cquillenis there any way of doing it in inittab?04:01
lgceyequeue, now you show off your fancy "vi" "savoir-faire"! (anyway gkrellm doesn't exist on my system).04:01
icemanITSa341theres the linux box ...04:01
ITSa341iceman   you have any other screennames like yahoo or msn?04:01
ITSa341aim?04:01
nickgarveydid ifr ever come back? I guess that means it works if he didn't04:01
nickgarvey!pm04:01
ubotuAsk your questions in the channel so that other people may also benefit from answers received.04:01
eyequeuelgc, nah, i added it, it is a handy app for me (nice if you're into watching system load and geeky stuff)04:01
ninI have a haddrive that was partitioned when it was underwindows, now that I'm using ubuntu can I access it somehow without losing/corrupting the data?04:01
hawk_wolfcge, I probably need to open the file as sudo to alter it. how do I do that.04:01
skplcan someone tell me where to get tha package java-package?04:02
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nickgarvey!ntfs04:02
ubotu[ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions04:02
ITSa341nickgarvey    not about to give out shipping addresses or email addresses in here04:02
cgehawk_wolf: sudo (vim/emacs/ed/other editor) /etc/apt/sources.list04:02
_jason!info java-package04:02
ninRight on, thanks.04:02
ubotujava-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.26 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 308 kB04:02
nickgarveyITSa341: oh haha ok sorry about that Ijust got back04:02
_jasonubotu: tell skpl about multiverse04:02
carthiknin, yes. as long as you don't destroy or overwrite those partitions04:02
icemanITSa341i got a old icq account04:02
hawk_wolfk thanks, let me try that.04:02
skpl_jason, E: Couldn't find package java-package04:02
ITSa341nickgarvey  no big deal, just telling why the pm04:02
skpli have all my repos enabled04:03
_jasonskpl: you need multiverse04:03
nickgarvey:)04:03
ITSa341iceman  4773123404:03
cgecquillen: Oh, you want X to start, but have tty1 open?04:03
_jasonskpl: can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list please?04:03
eyequeuenin, i suspect that page the bot told you will mention not writing to an ntfs partition, just reading it04:03
_jasonubotu: tell skpl about pastebin04:03
skpl_jason, sure04:03
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MTecknologyprof, if I have the device mounted, how do i force it to be 777 when it s currently 70004:03
Gcastinanother question that came up in my mind when i was instaling ubuntu , it only asks to create a username to perform administrative tasks, is this the "root" password too? all i wnat to do is go to the shell and do: SU  , type the root password and finish my install tasks.   Or is this distro make you do : sudo _____ ; type the password ; ? ? ?04:04
cquilleni dont really mind if x starts, i just need tty1 to be the first thing that comes up04:04
skpl_jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1247704:04
_jasonubotu: tell Gcastin about root04:04
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AngryElfhey all, what's the prefix for a command do send it to the remote display over ssh????? it's somethin like DISPLAY=0:004:04
OrTigaShi! i tried sharing my root folder but still i cant access it, it ask me password04:04
AngryElf*to send04:04
Gcastinsorry if itsx a stupid question04:04
eyequeuecquillen, when gdm starts here, it takes over "focus" automatically, and i have to alt-ctrl-f1 to get to tty104:04
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lgcjohanbr, cge, I'm trying to follow your posts...04:04
_jasonskpl: you only have breezy-backports multiverse, not breezy multiverse.  Want to edit /etc/apt/sources.list manually or use synaptic to fix this?04:04
skpl_jason, i guess i can use synaptic04:05
_jasonGcastin: ubuntu uses sudo, just check your private messages from ubotu for more info04:05
nargwhat would be the easiest way for a program to send an email on the CLI and non-interactively (aka a log/msg email)?04:05
icemanITSa341old account susspended ouch04:05
ITSa341Gcastin sudo is recommended but su is possible04:05
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ITSa341iceman   LOL04:05
eyequeuecquillen, i've always figured that's something it just does, so i disable gdm (man update-rc.d) when i want to go to console without the three-key nonsense04:05
skpl_jason, or whatever is easier for you ;)04:05
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hawk_wolf# deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse04:05
hawk_wolf# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse04:05
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lgccge, you mean that the synaptics device can distinguish between the palm of a hand and a finger?04:05
_jasonskpl: check the wiki link ubotu gave you.  Just use ctrl-f to search for all of the sentences containing the word ``mutliverse''04:05
hawk_wolfare these the lines I need to uncomment04:05
cquillenok, how would i enable it again if i want to go back to X04:06
ITSa341iceman   I have the sticks you need here if you're paying the postage04:06
icemanITSa341 one minute ... :)04:06
eyequeuecquillen, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start04:06
hawk_wolfbtw opening a file from command line was one of the coolest things I've ever seen.04:06
_jasonhawk_wolf: only if you want backports04:06
skpl_jason, and do what with them?04:06
eyequeuecquillen, ie, run it manually when you want it04:06
_jasonskpl: read them and follow the instructions :)04:06
hawk_wolfI want apt-get to get guide dog04:06
_jasonhawk_wolf: you don't need backports04:06
cgelgc: It is in the hardware -  it depends on whether your hardware supports it.04:06
_jason(for that)04:07
hawk_wolfok which lines do I uncomment to enable universe?04:07
Gcastinjayson ahhh ok thanks for the info04:07
_jasonhawk_wolf: stuff that says breezy universe04:07
icemanITSa341i'll just install icq and restore the account i think04:07
hawk_wolfperfect, thanks man04:07
johanbrnarg: mail -s "subject" somebody@example.com <body_of_email.txt04:07
skpl_jason, i do not have the multiverses in my sources.list, how do i get them?04:08
OrTigaSany idea?04:08
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ninSo the drive being read only... yeah, that's no good.04:08
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eyequeueskpl, got a line with "universe" in it?  clone it but with "multiverse" instead04:08
_jasonskpl: did you read the wiki link about adding repos and what it says about multiverse?04:08
skpleyequeue, ok thank you04:08
nickgarveynin: only way to fix that it seems is to get microsoft to open source their filesystem04:09
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icemanITSa341you icq number04:09
hawk_wolfwow that worked, I'm relatively new to linux and this is so fun04:09
eugmanCtrl-Alt-Del != Task Manager. Change. How? Thx.04:09
ITSa341iceman   ok write down that icq number I gave you and contact me that way04:09
nickgarveynin: guess what the odds of that happening oare heh04:09
ITSa3414773123404:09
eyequeueskpl, np.  remember to 'sudo apt-get update' after any changes to that file04:09
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nickgarveylets see what ctrl alt del doe-04:09
ITSa341iceman  47731234304:09
ninHahaha04:09
nickgarveyoo prosess table04:09
lgcg04:09
paxso long breezy, welcome dapper. lets reboot 'n see what happens04:09
nickgarveypax: good luck04:09
ninI can always copy what I need, and just repartition it under ubuntu.04:09
ITSa341iceman  47731234   **   sorry, can't type tonight04:09
jadaz87nickgarvey it does nothing for me04:09
tateHello, anyone here ever had to install an Epson Picturemate?04:09
eugmanpax: say goodbye to printing!04:09
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eyequeuepax, see you on the other side :)04:10
OrTigaShi! i tried sharing my root folder but still i cant access it, it ask me password, any idea why?04:10
lgccge, I made the change. How can it go in effect?04:10
ignacio_hi04:10
nargjohanbr: postdrop: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory04:10
ignacio_can i ask a question ?04:10
nickgarvey!helpme04:10
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.04:10
eugmanIgnacio, next there'll be dancing!04:10
nickgarvey;)04:10
hawk_wolfokay I got apt-get to install guidedog but 2 packages were uninstallable.04:11
hawk_wolfdo I need em?04:11
professor_chaosOrTigaS, how did you try sharing it? And can I ask you why your doing this?04:11
The-MoonDose anyone know how to get codeblocks to install on ubuntu?04:11
tateI plugged in this USB printer and restarted CUPS.  It showed up but when I print to it just does nothing04:11
eyequeuehawk_wolf, did it say what?  and why?04:11
cgelgc: If you restart X, it might work, or it might not, depending on the hardware.04:11
OrTigaSprofessor_chaos,  just playing it04:11
johanbrnarg: That's a postfix error message, right? Doesn't sound good. Do you e-mail delivery working at all?04:11
lgccge, is there, perhaps a less violent action?04:11
ignacio_i have this problem04:11
johanbr"Do you have..."04:12
hawk_wolfSince you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that04:12
hawk_wolfthe package is simply not installable and a bug report against04:12
hawk_wolfthat package should be filed.04:12
hawk_wolfThe following information may help to resolve the situation:04:12
hawk_wolfThe following packages have unmet dependencies:04:12
ITSa341ignacio_ not only can you ask but if you're patient you will isually get the help you need04:12
hawk_wolf  guidedog: Depends: kdelibs4c2 (>= 4:3.4.1) but it is not installable04:12
hawk_wolf            Depends: libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.4) but it is not installable04:12
ignacio_the sound volume level is too low04:12
hawk_wolfE: Broken packages04:12
OrTigaSsystem-->admin--> shared folder04:12
nickgarvey!tell hawk_wolf about paste04:12
professor_chaosOrTigaS, although most people wouldn't do this you need to change permissions appropriately for this.04:12
ignacio_i set it to the max04:12
eyequeuehawk_wolf, don't paste all that here please04:12
ignacio_but its still to low04:12
skplcan someone tell me why when i type the command sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list04:12
skpl nothing happens?04:12
nickgarveyignacio_: let me see.. I think alsaconf can do that04:12
hawk_wolfsorry wont' happen again.04:12
nargjohanbr: I've never used it  before, so I really don't know. Its more or less just base server install of breezy.04:12
OrTigaSprofessor_chaos,  how?04:12
cgelgc: Oh, I mean, the detection will either work or not work.04:12
johanbr lgc: synclient option=value04:12
professor_chaosOrTigaS, "sudo chown 777 /root04:12
eyequeuehawk_wolf, anyway, try an "install" command for *those* packages, individually04:12
hawk_wolfwill do04:12
hawk_wolfthanks04:13
_jasonprofessor_chaos: what does that do?04:13
cgelgc: If it doesn't work, nothing will change.04:13
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ignacio_i  try to run alsaconf04:13
nickgarveyignacio_: hmm not sure, I'd say google is your best bet..04:13
ignacio_but nothing happends 104:13
OrTigaSprofessor_chaos,  so it will show the root folder to the other windows machine?>04:13
professor_chaosOrTigaS, this will give everybody permisson to read write and execute files in directory /root04:13
ignacio_i have tried google04:13
skplis there a way to open a root file browser from the gnome menu?04:13
ignacio_nothing ...04:13
eyequeuehawk_wolf, the error messages they display should be informative04:13
lgccge, what johanbr says is interesting.04:13
professor_chaosOrTigaS, I dont recommend this04:13
OrTigaSyea04:13
OrTigaS i know04:13
OrTigaSi just playing it04:13
OrTigaSif its work i'll turn in off again04:14
flodineanyone know where i can get the industrial tango icon set from?04:14
cgelgc: Yes, that might work.04:14
johanbrnarg: I'd test that first, using mutt or something (or telnet if you can speak smtp).04:14
OrTigaSone more question professor_chaos  because it wont show my window network in this machine..04:14
skplcan someone tell me why when i type the command sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list nothing happens?04:14
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eyequeueOrTigaS, sudo mkdir /foo, and experiment with that one instead of /root?04:14
hawk_wolfeyequeue it says its not available.04:14
cgelgc: However it looks like it might be on by default04:14
_jasonskpl: what happens with 'sudo echo hi' ?04:14
lgcjohanbr, then it would be "synclient PalmDetect=true"? wunderbar!04:14
eugmanHow do i make it so Ctrl-Alt-Del manages tasks04:14
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professor_chaosOrTigaS, can you get any directories to show up in your windows machine04:15
eyequeuehawk_wolf, and you have the repos you need?04:15
skpl_jason, skpl@regularity:~$ sudo echo hi04:15
skplhi04:15
jwiensI've got a potential bug in dapper I'd like to see if someone else could verify before I submit it -- basically it looks like vim syntax highlighting isn't working.  There's a more excplicit log entry when you try ":syntax on", but I'd like to make sure it's not just something I've done.  Any takers?04:15
eyequeue!tell hawk_wolf about repos04:15
johanbrlgc: Yes. Or possibly "...=1".04:15
hawk_wolfthanks I was about to ask04:15
jwiensIt'd be my first submitted bug if so.  :-)04:15
nickgarveyjwiens: #ubuntu+1 is dapper04:15
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_jasonskpl: you should use gksudo for synaptic, but I don't know why nothing happened before.  Try this: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'04:16
nickgarveyjwiens: :)04:16
lgcjohanbr, I get "Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?"04:16
jwiensI'll head on over there.04:16
OrTigaSprofessor_chaos,  it show before and now it wont show04:16
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skpl_jason, what does that do?04:16
skpli have a prompt04:16
eyequeuejwiens, um, which syntax btw?  perl? etc04:16
lgcjohanbr, I tried with "true".04:16
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OrTigaSprofessor_chaos,  i tried to change the to 777 but still the same it wont access by window machine this box04:16
_jasonskpl: gksudo should be used for gui apps, enter your user password04:16
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OrTigaSroot folder04:16
skpl_jason, i do not think it is a password prompt, it looks like this: >04:17
lgcjohanbr, it's the same thing with "1". Same error. Any clue?04:17
jwienseyequeue: bash shell script.04:17
johanbrlgc: You might need a line saying ' Option      "SHMConfig" "true" ' in your xorg.conf .04:17
jwiensThe error I got though looked more generic than that.04:17
_jasonskpl: did you forget a single quote?04:17
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skpl_jason, nevermind, yes i did, here is what i got: (gedit:11795): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:04:17
skplAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.04:17
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_jasonskpl: but did it open anyway?04:17
professor_chaosOrTigaS, "sudo chmod -R 777 /root"04:18
jwienseyequeue: /usr/share/vim/vim64/syntax/syntax.vim:line 42: E216: No such group or event: filetypedetect BufRead04:18
skpl_jason, no it is just reading04:18
_jasonOrTigaS: that sounds like a really bad idea imo04:18
OrTigaSno prob _jason  heh04:18
Mailorder_Does Ubuntu have good drivers for ATI graphics cards?04:18
nickgarvey!tell Mailorder_ about ati04:18
AAAjwiens  is the script in the paste bin to  look at?04:18
OrTigaSi'm just the only one playing and they didnt know this04:18
OrTigaShheh04:18
lgcjohanbr, you mean beside (or rather, underneath) "Option  PalmDetect true"?04:18
Mailorder_thank you04:18
_jasonOrTigaS: at least make a backup04:19
nickgarvey:)04:19
professor_chaos_jason, he really wants to do this. I warned him. Linux is all about freedom. Even to do this.04:19
OrTigaS:)04:19
_jasonprofessor_chaos: yeah, just make it clear to him :)04:19
johanbr lgc: Somewhere around there, yes. You need to restart X for that to become active, though.04:19
_jasonprofessor_chaos: s/make/making04:19
jwiensAAA: there was only a very small bit of error from a "syntax on" command.  I copied it above.  Is that appropriate?  Or should any logs, no matter what size be put in the paste-bin?  (I assume that's a channel somewhere on freenode)04:19
eyequeuejwiens, :syntax on, no errors here, and foo.sh does seem to properly highlight #!/bin/bash and case here04:20
OrTigaSstill asking me a password :)04:20
_jasonskpl: hmm I don't know what is going on with that.  You are using dapper right/04:20
skpl_jason, corrcet04:20
skplcorrect04:20
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_jasonskpl: it may be some kind of bug.  Why don't you use nano for now instead of gedit04:20
OrTigaSand how to put it back to restrict if i change it from 777?04:20
skplsounds good, thank you04:20
jwienseyequeue: just got that corroborated on #u-1.  Thanks.  I'll see if I can figure out what I've done to cause that.04:21
AAAjwiens  whatever script is calling vim, paste that at paste.ubuntu-nl.org/04:21
lgcjohanbr, then I won't need to type the "synclient" command on a term?04:21
professor_chaosOrTigaS, go to Applications -> System -> Admin -> Shared Folders04:21
jwiensAAA: no script, just "vim filename.sh"04:21
eyequeuejwiens, 6.4-006+2ubuntu2 if that matters04:21
OrTigaSprofessor_chaos,  yes i did04:21
AAAjwiens  what is in your ~/.vimrc ?04:21
OrTigaSi'm trying to add the /home folder to share04:22
jwiens6.4-006+2ubuntu2 here as well.04:22
johanbrlgc: If you put the PalmDetect line in xorg.conf, then you won't need to change the options with synclient, that's right.04:22
eyequeuejwiens, you may have an important corner case to report, don't be discouraged :)04:22
jwiensDon't have one on this machine.04:22
nargjohanbr: hrm. Mutt gives a Mail Sent message, but it doesn't appear to be arriving on the other end.04:22
hawk_wolfeyequeue thanks, guidedog is currently installing.04:22
jwiensThe only thing I can remember doing is before I upgaded to dapper, I manually edited the system-wide vimrc to add syntax highlighting.04:22
eyequeuehawk_wolf, great04:22
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professor_chaosOrTigaS, I dont recommend the "-R" option as that will make it hard to change back, as it will change permissions recursively.04:22
eyequeuehawk_wolf, btw, what does it do?04:22
ooazzaooYOU MOTHER FUCKERS CAN SUCK MY DICK04:22
_jason!ops04:23
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee04:23
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lgcjohanbr, and then how can I turn off the feature? By hand, in the opossite way?04:23
johanbrnarg: What does postfix log about the message that you sent through mutt?04:23
professor_chaosOrTigaS, to change back "sudo chmod 755" or whatever it was before04:23
benplaut*drumroll*04:23
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lgcseems nalioth_zZz has some job to do...04:23
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johanbrlgc: Yes, synclient PalmDetect=0 (assuming you did put the SHMConfig line into xorg.conf).04:23
benplautc'mon... where's an op? i don't want the drumroll to be wasted!04:23
AAAjwiens  http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-closed@lists.debian.org/msg57293.html04:23
hawk_wolfeyequeue, somebody named aaa told me to get it because I can't afford a router but I have 2 nics installed and I'm trying to route traffic to my fiancee's computer04:23
hawk_wolfits supposed to make that easy.04:24
eyequeuehawk_wolf, ah04:24
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AAAjwiens  upgrade vim ;)04:24
momhey?04:24
benplautAAA: help hawk_wolf04:24
jwiensactually, just found it.04:24
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momhey people04:24
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jwiensIt was due to me turning on syntax highlighting in breezy before I upgraded.  The new vimrc wasn't written.04:24
jwiensI moved the -dist config over the old one and it works fine.04:24
titanium_platypuhow do you get the damn NVidia drivers to work?04:25
momasl?04:25
eyequeuejwiens, suspense and all, what was it?04:25
eyequeuejwiens, thanks04:25
nickgarveytitanium_platypu: asking nicely helps..04:25
blindxwhats the "hop" command for xchat.. anyone know?04:25
AAAjwiens  w0004:25
nickgarvey!tell titanium_platypu about nvidia04:25
skpl_jason, i got the multiverses enabled but still cannot find java-package, any clues?04:25
titanium_platypuI keep trying to install it, but it complains about the GCC version not matching the kernel version?04:25
muntyan_hey, can i make a debian of ubuntu if i change apt sources from ubuntu's to debian's?04:25
AAAhawk_wolf  how is that working for you?04:25
titanium_platypuI'm sorry, but I've been trying to do this for months04:25
jwiensThanks everybody.04:25
nargjohanbr: where would you check the postfix log?04:25
_jasonskpl: did you apt-get update?04:25
OrTigaSstill wont work the sharing :(04:25
jwiensIs this the sort of thing that might go in the wiki somewhere so others who run into this problem can get the info?04:25
eyequeueskpl, no s on the end of multiverse, if that's it04:25
_jason!info java-package dapper04:25
hawk_wolfWell I just reinstalled so I had to start over.04:25
ubotujava-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.27 (dapper), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 336 kB04:25
AAAmuntyan_  _I_ would'nt recommend that!04:26
nickgarveytitanium_platypu: compare "cat /proc/version" with "gcc --version"04:26
skpl_jason, is multiverse safe?04:26
hawk_wolfI just got guidedog installed, now I'm trying to configure it.04:26
titanium_platyputhen on the newest version it complains and exits the install (even if I set the CC variable)04:26
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_jasonskpl: yes, just not free (as in freedom, not cost)04:26
titanium_platypubut on the older version it installs, but then it won't work unless I re-run the installation after every single reboot.04:26
hawk_wolfthe part on forwarding is what I don't know what to do.04:26
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skploh ok04:26
eyequeuejwiens, i'd at least post to ubuntuforums04:26
titanium_platypuLinux version 2.6.12-10-386 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 3.4.5 20050809 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8.1)) #1 Sat Mar 11 16:13:17 UTC 200604:26
skpl_jason, i got this error: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release  Unable to find expected entry  univer/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)04:26
muntyan_AAA: because of difference between ubuntu and debian or because it's downgrading?04:26
titanium_platypugcc (GCC) 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)04:26
jwienseyequeue: I'll do it there.  Thanks everyone for the help.04:26
johanbrnarg: /var/log/mail.log04:27
titanium_platypuGCC is obviously newer than the one used to make my Ubuntu04:27
nickgarveytitanium_platypu: that's the problem04:27
_jasonskpl: can you pastebin what your new sources looks like?04:27
skplyes04:27
titanium_platypubut even if I set the CC variable to 3.4, it still fouls up.04:27
nickgarveytitanium_platypu: okie, update your kernel then04:27
titanium_platypuso how can I fix that04:27
titanium_platypu?04:27
titanium_platypuhow do I do that?04:27
_jason!enter04:27
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.04:27
nickgarveytitanium_platypu: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade04:27
titanium_platypuk04:27
nickgarveytitanium_platypu: should do it, unless you need apt-get dist-upgrade04:27
disco_stuIf I modify the xorg.conf - do I have to fully reboot - or just logout of X and log back in?04:27
_jasonubotu: tell titanium_platypu about nvidia04:27
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hyphenateddisco_stu: you have to restart X04:27
eyequeuedisco_stu, personally, i'd log out of x, but also restart x04:28
AAAmuntyan_  not exactly, ubuntu is basically a 'polished' debian and does things slightly different. and the nomenclature for the .debs is different. you would have a very difficult time doing what you are proposing04:28
titanium_platypuneither of those commands updated anything04:28
titanium_platypuboth my GCC and my kernel are up to date04:28
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titanium_platypuit's just that my kernel was compiled with an older version of GCC than is installed04:28
professor_chaosOrTigaS, I dont have a windows box to do this. But some shares wont take affect until the server restarts. For example NFS has this problem in breezy04:28
skpl_jason, nm, i fixed it04:28
nargjohanbr:  warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory <- same as with mail; mutt just hide the message I guess.04:28
johanbrtitanium_platypu: If you install the linux-restricted-modules package that matches your kernel, you should get working nvidia drivers, without any recompiling needed.04:28
skpl_jason, human error.04:28
eyequeuedisco_stu, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart, for example04:28
AAAhawk_wolf  what do you wat to accomplish?04:28
_jasonskpl: ah04:28
titanium_platypujohanbr, that one is already installed04:28
nickgarveytitanium_platypu: mm did you go to those links I gave you?04:28
muntyan_AAA: okay, thanks04:28
hyphenatedtitanium_platypu: have you installed gcc-3.4 and other related packages? have you run update-alternatives afterward to choose 3.4?04:29
AAAprofessor_chaos  I use nfs with breezy np04:29
danlwhats the easy way, or a link/tutorial on going from 5.10 to dapper04:29
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OrTigaSok professor_chaos04:29
titanium_platypunickgarvey, I've already been to those a hundred times04:29
hyphenateddanl: #ubuntu+104:29
danlthank you hyphenated04:29
titanium_platypuhyphenated, do what, now?04:29
titanium_platypuhyphenated, I don't quite get what you're saying04:29
cyphaseyay, new keyboard04:29
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cyphase:P04:30
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eyequeuedanl, you change the file and run two commands /etc/apt/sources.list, change "breezy" to "dapper" anywhere04:30
lgcjohanbr, cge, I'm rebooting now...04:30
OrTigaSi'm gonna delete add the folder04:30
professor_chaosAAA, and adding a new share via /etc/exports or via gui take affect right away? Or do you need to restart NFS?04:30
cyphasenot as many of those keys along the top, but oh well04:30
eyequeuedanl, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:30
cyphase:P04:30
skpl_jason, nm, i only thought i fixed it, here is my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1247804:30
professor_chaosAAA, I would have to restart NFS to take effect04:30
hyphenatedtitanium_platypu: do you even have gcc-3.4 installed?04:30
DewDudedoes anyone know anything about FreeNX?04:30
AAAppl, the only time you should ever have to reboot a linux box is if you want to run a different kernel or change hardware. This AINT doze...04:30
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nickgarveyhow would you compile.. a compiler?04:31
disco_stuI have KMLDonkey installed and running - but it only ever connects to 2 servers - any advice?04:31
eyequeueAAA, or test boot sequence ;)04:31
AAAprofessor_chaos  so /etc/init.d/nfs-user-server restart04:31
_jasonskpl: pastebin the errors you get with 'sudo apt-get update' too04:31
nargnickgarvey: with a compiler :)04:31
skplnickgarvey, large monkeys04:31
AAAeyequeue  you can use init for that too04:31
titanium_platypuif I do a "CC=gcc-3.4; export CC" will it be permanent?04:31
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professor_chaosAAA, exactly the sever needs to be restarted.04:31
eyequeuenickgarvey, apt-get -b source gcc3.4  ;)04:31
skpl_jason, i did not get an error this time04:31
nickgarveynarg: so you would compile a compiler with a compiler, that's a tongue twister heh04:31
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_jasonskpl: k, can you install java-package now?04:31
professor_chaosAAA, I dont know about smb shared04:31
AAAprofessor_chaos  daemon =p04:31
skpllets see04:31
nickgarveyeyequeue: psh that makes it too easy04:31
titanium_platypuand, hyphenated, yes I do04:31
professor_chaosAAA, yes demon. Thanks04:32
AAAprofessor_chaos  samba is simple if you just want to share a folder or two on a "workgroup"04:32
nargnickgarvey: yup. You do that all the way back to the point were you boostrapped the first compiler from machine code :p04:32
eyequeuetitanium_platypu, if you export it in your .*rc file, such as ~/.bashrc04:32
titanium_platypuhm....04:32
johanbrnarg: Hmm... Do you run postfix in a chroot? Have you done any other kind of customization?04:32
hyphenatedtitanium_platypu: ok. I mistakenly thought gcc was controlled via 'alternatives', which makes it easy to switch between versions/programs that achieve similar tasks04:32
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moshehello04:32
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eyequeuetitanium_platypu, really, try things first before adding them to startup files, for obvious reasons04:32
professor_chaosAAA,  and that takes affect right away. Or needs smb to be restarted04:33
nargjohanbr: nerp. I've installed some other software that is totally unrelated, but otherwise, this is almost entirely clean server breezy.04:33
mosheany suggestions here for programs to monitor epson printer ink levels?04:33
johanbrtitanium_platypu: Then it should work. Maybe someone who has an nvidia card can help you, I have an ATI myself.04:33
titanium_platypuso try the export thing?04:33
AAAprofessor_chaos  as a general rule, any time you edit a config file, you need to HUP (hang up process) or restart the daemon04:33
titanium_platypuall right, I'm going to try that.  Thanks guys for the help :)04:34
professor_chaosAAA, whats the restart command for smb04:34
OrTigaSstill doesn't work the sharing04:34
professor_chaosOrTigaS, ask AAA, he seems to know more about this. I will learn something04:34
OrTigaSok04:35
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AAAprofessor_chaos  tip: using bash (the default shell in ubuntu) you have the power of tab completion. type /etc/init.d/<tab><tab> and find it ;)04:35
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hyphenatedOrTigaS: sudo /etc/init.d/samba reload04:35
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professor_chaosAAA, I dont have smb installed. Just wanted to know for my edumucation04:35
AAAif you guys just type the path name, it will show you the arguements you can supply to the script (i.e. stop start reload...)04:36
lucia_engelwhy do nautilus, gparted, and disk manager list i've used 2gb when i've only used 700mb of my 4gb /home partition?04:36
AAAprofessor_chaos  then you need to find it in the repos. apt-cache samba04:36
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nickgarveyhow would I check how big a package is from apt-get?04:37
narglucia_engel: hidden files?04:37
professor_chaosAAA, I dont want it, dont need it. Just trying to help out OrTigaS04:37
eyequeueum, apt-cache {show|search} samba04:37
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AAAlucia_engel  you paste the output of df -h in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/04:37
OrTigaSstill asking me the password04:37
lucia_engelnarg: well the 700mb includes the ".files" according to baobab...and it's scary to think i have 1gb of hidden files04:38
eyequeuenickgarvey, apt-cache show foo | grep Installed-Size04:38
kethinovdoes anyone know of a good video capture app for linux that i can use to record the events of a specific window or the entire desktop into a video, or simply dump the audio that program is generating into some raw format?04:38
nickgarveyeyequeue: thank you04:38
AAAeyequeue  good catch...sorry04:38
blindxanyway to make firefox not use to much memory? :|04:38
eyequeuenickgarvey, play a bit with apt-cache show foo on a package you know well04:38
nickgarveyblindx: google! there's 100's of pages on that04:38
nickgarveyeyequeue: friend asked how big python was04:38
nargblindx: There is a about:config option somewhere, not sure what it is called though04:38
eyequeueAAA, a mistake i'd make myself, heh04:39
blindxsomewhere in about:config, eh?04:39
blindx:P04:39
eyequeuenickgarvey, apt-cache show python2.4 | grep Installed-Size, probably04:39
AAAeyequeue  debian reminds me of that mistake often04:39
nickgarveyeyequeue: yup, its a weird number though04:39
nickgarveyeyequeue: one of those that I would normally use -h on ;)04:39
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lucia_engelAAA: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1248004:40
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nargnickgarvey: divide it by 1024^204:40
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nickgarveynarg: okie thank you04:40
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eyequeuenickgarvey, "python" is just the meta-package that installs the preferred version of the current release, i think 2.4 for both breezy and dapper, but unsure04:40
nickgarveynarg: and what size is that in?04:40
nargnickgarvey: that will take you from bytes to megabytes04:40
nickgarveynarg: alright thank you04:40
AAAlucia_engel  and what makes you think you have only used 700M04:41
johanbrnarg: Hmm. Googling that error message gives some hits, but nothing very conclusive. You could try backing up any postfix config files you want to keep, then removing postfix by doing "dpkg -P --force all postfix", followed by "dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/postfix*deb" to reinstall.04:41
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eyequeuenickgarvey, if ever you DO pull up something tiny, grep for Depends, and see what the real package it pulls in is04:41
OrTigaSbrb04:41
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nargjohanbr: ok, thanks. I'll try that.04:42
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nickgarveyeyequeue: alright, thanks, that explains how python got so small heh04:42
eyequeueheh04:42
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ninI'04:44
niner04:44
ninI'm listening now Nikki.04:44
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nickgarveynin: who's nikki?04:45
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ninAck, wrong window... heh04:45
ninThanks nick for your earlier help.04:45
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pepofor install automatix ? its aptitude install automatix or other package name?04:45
ninI'm slowly figuring this stuff out04:45
AeudianI have a creative audigy 2 sound card with alsa drivers installed but how do i go about setting them to 5.1 instead of 2 channel04:45
eyequeue!easyubuntu04:46
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu04:46
eyequeue!automatix04:46
ubotuI guess automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.04:46
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phinhey, i just restarted my desktop and im showing the two gnome panels coming up but they are just two white bars with nothing on them.  i cannot click them, or right click them, and doing a killall gnome-panel and having em come back up results n the same thing.04:47
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Thinjon100Hello, just gave up on a very unsuccessful SuSE 10 installation attempt for my AMD64... is there a stable Ubuntu release I should try?04:48
dj__Hello everyone!04:48
vitorreshola!!!!!!!!!104:48
dj__I happen to be confused about something.04:48
vitorresxD04:48
dj__Hola04:48
nickgarvey!es04:48
vitorresjaja04:48
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:48
sethkThinjon100, I've had problems installing SuSE several times04:48
vitorres:o04:48
sethkThinjon100, ubuntu is definitely better.  I haven't tried amd64 specifically, though04:48
dj__Well, I'm wondering if I can install KDE on UBUNTU or do I need Kubuntu?04:49
johanbrphin: Try renaming the directory ~/.gnome2/panel2.d to something else, then killing gnome-panel. Does that help?04:49
nickgarvey!tell dj about kde04:49
phinjohanbr: i sec04:49
dj__:)04:49
Thinjon100Where's the best site to find ISOs and detailed installation/setup instructions?04:50
nickgarveyThinjon100: isos for what?04:50
Thinjon100Well, Ubuntu... if it's got a good release for Athlon6404:51
nickgarveyThinjon100: if you mean linux distributions in general, I'd say www.distrowatch.com04:51
cyphaseis there a bonjour chat client for linux?04:51
swaso I've installed libdvdcss2, yet I still can't play DVD's -- Totem tells me a proper decoder isn't installed.  any ideas?  I'm running amd6404:51
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cyphaseswa, libdvdcss is kind of flaky04:52
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cyphaseor i should say04:52
blindxDoes anyone happen to know the default log folder for x-chat? o.o04:52
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cyphasetotem's use of it04:52
johanbrcyphase: Very recent (too recent to be in ubuntu) versions of gaim are zeroconf-aware. The version of ekiga in Dapper also handles zeroconf. That's really an IP phone, but has a simple text chat.04:52
swacyphase:  well I tried installing xine, mplayer, and vlc also -- with no success.  I just wanna be able to watch DVD's :(04:53
michael117What's the best livecd that boots into gnome and fits on one cd-r?04:53
_jasonmichael117: ubuntu?04:53
cyphaseswa, vlc plays DVDs without libdvdcss04:53
Dr_Willismichael117,  some of the slax ones are nice04:53
swaalso, somehow I've broken the auto-mounting of my DVD drive -- I have to manually "mount /media/cdrom0" and "umount /dev/scd0"04:53
eyequeue"best" is opinion, but ubuntu does that04:53
Dr_Willismichael117,  and Knoppix is great04:53
Dr_Willisthe ubuntu live cd's are decent as well.04:53
swacyphase:  yeah I know, but when I try "Open Disc" and use dvd:///media/cdrom0 -- it just does nothing04:53
cyphaseswa, you have to give it the device name04:54
ninMy dvd-rom is mounted but not playing anything04:54
cyphasee.g. /dev/hdd04:54
Dr_Willisswa,  run vlc from a terminal and see what messages its saying04:54
cyphaseswa, try /dev/hdd04:54
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dj__anyone know if Ubuntu has KDE or if KDE can be put on my ubuntu system?04:54
swaI have some lines to paste, can I paste them herE?  it's like 4 lines04:54
cyphaseit doesn't have to be mounted even04:54
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johanbrswa: What's the exact message from totem?04:54
swahere's what VLC has to say:04:54
swalibdvdread: Attempting to use device /dev/scd0 mounted on /media/cdrom0 for CSS authentication04:55
swalibdvdread: Could not open /dev/scd0 with libdvdcss.04:55
swalibdvdread: Can't open /dev/scd0 for reading04:55
swalibdvdread: Device /dev/scd0 inaccessible, CSS authentication not available.04:55
nomasteryodagah, pastebin...04:55
pulverhey, when i double click on a downloaded mp3 file in nautilus it pops up a warning dialog saying a mp3 file could be a security risc and refuses to play it.. why? it's rediculous04:55
hoslerI installed Freevo on my computer. I configured freevo to startup when the stystem boots. However, freevo is trying to connect to the X server and I have to start the X server manually with 'startx.' How can I get X to start automaticaly so freevo can start?04:55
johanbrswa: What does "ls -l /dev/scd0" say?04:55
swakind of odd -- I can cd /media/cdrom0 and see the files just fine04:55
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swabrw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2006-04-17 15:44 /dev/scd004:56
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kethinovdoes there exist any screen recording software for linux?04:56
cyphasekethinov, several04:56
johanbrswa: Does your user belong to the cdrom group?04:56
kethinovcyphase, any suggestions?04:57
cyphasekethinov, Istanbul, Byanz..04:57
swajohanbr:  I was bad, and just for testing, ran VLC as root04:57
C0keNC0d3pulver, i think you need to install the software needed to play mp3s04:57
eyequeuescript (1)           - make typescript of terminal session04:57
C0keNC0d3I can play mp3s just fine04:57
dj__he04:57
johanbrswa: Ok. Do you have mplayer installed? If so, what does "mplayer dvd://1" say?04:57
swaand yes, my normal user is a member of the "cdrom" group04:57
phinjohanbr: no luck, same thing04:58
cyphasekethinov, Byzanz*04:58
swait complains about /dev/dvd -- which doesn't exist04:58
C0keNC0d3but the software required to play mp3s doesn't come bundled with ubuntu for legal reasons04:58
cyphaseWink..04:58
cyphaseetc04:58
_jasonswa: are you sure libdvdcss got installed?  What does this say: dpkg -l '*libdvdcss*' | grep ^ii04:58
pulverC0keNC0d3, yeah it's all there (its possible to right click and open with...xmms for ex) just that nautilus didn't like the file extension which is .mp304:59
kethinovcyphase, istanbul looks like it is based on VNC. would it be incapable of capturing opengl, xv, directx (via wine), and sound?04:59
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C0keNC0d3weird04:59
ninI'm having a problem downloading macromedia now...04:59
C0keNC0d3nautilus never told me anything about .mp3 files04:59
CNAPso how to do i apt-get v. 6.06???04:59
cyphasekethinov, Istanbul isn't VNC based04:59
swaii  libdvdcss2         1.2.9-1plf3    portable abstraction library for DVD decrypt04:59
swaii  libdvdcss2-dev     1.2.9-1plf3    development files for libdvdcss204:59
cyphasekethinov, but it's buggy sometimes04:59
_jasonswa: ok, so much for the easy fix04:59
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swa:/05:00
_jasonswa: have you tried other discs you know work?05:00
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ninMy friend used to spell his nick just like you Jason, by chance you from Cali?05:01
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CNAPguys, hear anything on ubuntu 6.06?05:01
phinjohanbr: i fixed it, the show desktop button was messed up05:01
_jasonnin: nope, other side of the states :)05:01
phinCNAP: whats there to hear? it works :)05:01
phinim using it05:01
ninAlright, that works.05:01
johanbrswa: I don't recognize that lib version. Where'd you get it from? I use Christian Marillat's version, and that works for me.05:01
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johanbrphin: Alright, good to hear.05:02
tonyyarussoCNAP: I'm reading a review of Flight 5 right now.  (Yes, Flight 6 is already out.)05:02
swa_jason:  I tried another disc, and vlc segfaulted05:02
CNAPyeah i'm reading the same review05:02
phinjohanbr: wonder why that would bug out.05:02
ninYeah, I'm having a problem downloading flashplayer from macromedia, if there's someone that could help05:02
CNAPcan i do an apt-get upgrade? if so how?05:02
swajohanbr:  got it from ubuntulinux.nl05:02
_jasonnin: install flashplugin-nonfree from multiverse05:02
_jasonubotu: tell nin about multiverse05:02
nszabolcshi, i just crashed my X (on tty9) i have no input can i get back to a working tty? (i can login via ssh)05:02
johanbrswa: And you're sure that /dev/scd0 is the correct device?05:02
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swajohanbr:  positive.  I only have one cdrom, it's an SATA DVD burner, and I can mount it perfectly05:03
mrspeckhello all-- how do i stop a demon once i've started it?  (i've started svnserver but i don't know how to stop it)05:03
kethinovcyphase, i see what you mean. it is pretty buggy.05:03
cyphasekethinov, yea05:04
cyphaseit leaves a trail05:04
kethinovcyphase, what's the deal with that?05:04
cyphasei don't know05:04
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nszabolcsmrspeck: killall ?05:04
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mrspeckuhhh-- doesn't that kill all?  all processes?  i just want to kill a specific demon-- gracefully if possible05:05
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swasigh05:05
swaI don't get it :(05:05
swamy DVD drive won't even auto-mount anymore -- I have to manually do it, which is annoying05:05
nszabolcskillall svnserver (only kills svnservers :)05:05
MTecknologyI need help configuring an Airport Extereme05:05
nickgarveymrspeck: killall kills everything with the name you say, so killall apache2 will kill apache2, killall firefox-bin kills firefox05:05
nszabolcsprobably svnserverd stop works05:06
mrspecknick: does it do it gracefully-- i mean is that the way svnserver makers intended it to be stopped?05:06
mrspecknszabolcs--  oh i'll try that first05:06
johanbrswa: You can try the dvdcss package from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/libd/libdvdcss/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0_amd64.deb , maybe that'll work better.05:07
nickgarveymrspeck: it should expect to get that signal.. but yeah asking it first is usually better than telling it ;)05:07
nszabolcshow can i remotely change tty?05:07
swajohnbr: I'll try that one -- I just did mplayer dvd:///dev/scd0 -- it actually opened the dvd, played at light-speed with some crazy sounds and then died :P05:07
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AveBestok i have just installed ubuntu but i make it server , and now i need the commands for configure the network ,ip address,gateway. please help me05:09
swajohanbr, you're my hero!  That one is working!  mplayer can read my DVD perfectly now05:09
nickgarveyAveBest: dhcp doesn't work?05:09
johanbrswa: Great! Glad to be of help. :)05:09
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AveBesti don't know what's that05:10
AveBesti need the command how to set the ip address 192.168.2.175 , gatewat 192.168.2.100 , and dns 212.112.....05:10
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CokeNCodeAveBest, couldn't you just do it via gnome?05:11
kethinovcyphase, are there any others? i need to be able to record a specific application with full video and sound05:11
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CokeNCodego to , 'system' -> 'administration' -> 'networking'05:12
cyphasekethinov, there's (x|g)vidcap05:12
AveBestCokeNCode yes but i don't have space for gnome05:12
swaokay so now I have one more question :P05:12
CokeNCodeAveBest, oh, so you're using strictly console?05:12
AveBestCokeNCode i don't have installed gnome05:12
cyphasekethinov, i don't know about only one application though05:12
nszabolcsAveBest ifconfig something05:12
CokeNCodeoh ok ... well, I can't help you there then buddy05:12
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AveBestCokeNCode and who can help me?05:13
nszabolcsifconfig05:13
CokeNCodenszabolcs might be able to lead you in the right direction AveBest05:13
swawhen I do "cat /proc/cpuinfo" -- it detects my CPU properly as "model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+" -- however, the MHz is way off:  "cpu MHz         : 1010.277" -- any ideas why?05:13
johanbrswa: Buggy kernel, most likely.05:13
rohswa speedstep?05:13
swaroh: what's speedstep?05:14
rohits named powernow on amd cpus, but does the same.05:14
AveBestnszabolcs ifconfig says inet addr 127.0.0.105:14
swaAveBest:  ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.175 netmask 255.255.255.005:14
swaAveBest:  route add default gw 192.168.2.10005:15
rohthe clock scales down depending on the cpupower needed. so it wastes less energy05:15
AveBestok i'll try now05:15
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CokeNCodeAveBest, 'ifconfig address 192.168.2.175'05:15
blindxhow to delete a string from about:config in FF, anyone know? :x05:15
CokeNCodeoops05:15
rohswa: do you have any modules loaded like cpufreq* ?05:16
swaAveBeast:  echo nameserver\ 212.112.... > /etc/resolv.conf05:16
pepoi am trying to configure my wireless, its a broadcom, and the system says Harware Present:Yes but i can not see my eth105:16
swaroh:  yes I have about 5 cpufreq_* modules loaded05:16
pepoi need add it?05:16
CNAPa little help here guys, how do i do an upgrade on ubuntu without having to download the CD and reboot05:16
johanbrpepo: Using ndiswrapper, I guess?05:16
pepojohanbr, yes05:16
rohswa then look at your dmesg if it prints anything about it05:17
johanbrpepo: In that case, the interface is called wlan0.05:17
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swascott@beast:~$ dmesg | grep freq05:17
swa[  639.363934]  Losing some ticks... checking if CPU frequency changed.05:17
pepojohanbr, but device not found05:17
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AveBestswa i have Asus pcmia card (i have internet wireless) i need to make some configuration for this ...to work internet?05:18
johanbrpepo: What does "ndiswrapper -l" say?05:18
rohswa sorry.. i just see it also doesnt print anything here..05:18
swaAveBest:  does "ifconfig eth0" show anything?05:18
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johanbrswa: Do you have cpufreqd or powernowd running?05:18
pepojohanbr, bcmwl5 driver present, hardware present05:18
nickgarveypepo: same driver I need heh05:19
AAApepo  iwconfig -a05:19
nickgarveypepo: laptop?05:19
johanbr pepo: Does "ifconfig -a" say anything about wlan0?05:19
swajohanbr:  powernowd is running05:19
peponickgarvey, yes05:19
rohswa see if there is something like cpufreqd or powernowd running. if not, just install powernowd and it should work nicely. there is also a gnome.applet which can show the actual setting05:19
nickgarveypepo: brand?05:19
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pepoAAA, no such device05:19
pepojohanbr, no05:19
johanbr swa: Try "/etc/init.d/powernowd stop" and see if the reported frequency changes.05:19
swaroh:  I see that powernowd is running, so does that mean /proc/cpuinfo the MHz may change as the kernel needs?05:19
nickgarveypepo: compile your own ndiswrapper, works better05:20
nickgarveypepo: that's what I had to do05:20
AAApepo  sorry, I meant ifconfig -a like johanbr was saying..05:20
swajohanbr:  I stopped it, but the frequency did not change05:20
pepoAAA, just etho, lo, sit005:20
rohswa i dunno. the freq isnt really a concern since nothing in userspace shpould depend on whats printed there. thats just informational05:21
peponickgarvey, i did it05:21
bongzilla_i got error  configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables05:21
bongzilla_need help05:21
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rohswa it could be that it only prints the value from the bootup-time05:21
johanbrswa: Sorry, I just realized that it may actually have been doing its job correctly. Can you start something cpu-intensive, like a compile, and see if the freq changes (after restarting powernowd) ?05:21
nickgarveypepo: problem with ubuntu was it kept calling my wireless card eth0 instead of wlan005:21
AAApepo  what does dmesg tell you? just type dmesg and see if you can find (towards the bottom) anything about the driver loading05:21
bongzilla_how can i get that05:21
swajohanbr, when I try to restart it, it fails -- do I need to reboot?05:22
nickgarveypepo: I could scan and detect my network but not connect05:22
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johanbrswa: That's strange. What happens if you run it straight from the commandline ("powernowd"). In any case, if you don't mind rebooting I guess that'd fix it.05:22
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swajohanbr:  rofl I'm silly, I was starting/stopping it as a normal user -- lemme sudo su - root and try again ;)05:23
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peponickgarvey, but better of me, but dont work too :D05:23
AAApepo  you could paste the output of dmesg | tail -n 33 in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org05:23
escobar5hello, im having some problems, hotplug don't work in my ubuntu, do you know what can be?05:23
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swaand yes, johan, when I stopped powernowd, the MHz skyrocketted to 2222 :P05:23
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B0FH!glxgears05:23
ubotuTo display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"05:23
rohswa proc/cpuinfo shows 273mhz on my notebook when it should print 500 and 328 when it should be 600.. so its dynamic, but way off05:24
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AveBestswa THANKS MAN , IT WORK INTERNET ON IT05:24
johanbrswa: Alright. :) It seems to be working then.05:24
swaAveBest, np man, have fun ;)05:24
swasomegeek, this powernowd just scales the CPU MHz as it needs them?05:25
swalol stupid name completing in xchat05:25
B0FHis there something going on with ubuntu and it's fps useing nvidia cards? it seems that lately the last few monthes that the glxgears have been displaying really really low fps05:25
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rohswa yes it does05:25
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rohswa add the cpu frequency scaling monitor dockapp to your bar and you can see when it changes due to high cpuload05:26
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swaroh, forgive my newness to ubuntu, but how would I do that?05:26
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pepoAAA, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1248105:27
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rohswa klick right on a panel and on add to panel05:27
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swaroh, ah I see it in there ;)05:27
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swaroh, thanks for the help!05:27
rohyou can configure the applet by clicking right-> preferences05:28
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escobar5hello, im having some problems, hotplug don't work in my ubuntu, do you know what can be?05:28
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MrRiois there an easy way to 'strip' an ubuntu installation down to the bare minimum after its already been installed?05:29
mloweescobar5, not work in what manner ?05:29
Tennessee /msg05:29
cute_bettongi have a motherboard with an nforce2 chipset(s) and even though ubuntu sees it it produces no sound no matter what i do05:29
MrRiosome sort of package that all the gui stuff depends on?05:29
cute_bettongis there anyone that has an idea of what is going on?05:29
escobar5i plug my pendrive, my ipod, and it doesn't recognize them05:29
AAApepo  grep -i loadndisdriver /var/log/syslog05:29
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mlowe.05:30
crimsuncute_bettong: pastebin the output from ``lspci -v && lspci -nv && cat /proc/asound/cards && tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat && amixer -c0''05:30
mloweescobar5, probably in dendancies for hot plug, there is usb module. install that05:30
mlowedependancies05:30
cute_bettongcrimsun, http://pastebin.com/66649905:31
pepoAAA, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1248205:31
AAApepo  is this a pcmcia card ? if so do this. cardctl eject;cardctl insert  and then paste the output of tail -n 44 /var/log/syslog in paste.bin05:31
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cute_bettongand does anyone know if anything has changed in the last few monthes that would drop the framerate in ubuntu?05:32
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escobar5mlowe, sorry but how do i do that?05:32
cute_bettongwhen useing nvidia cards05:32
pepoAAA, its pci05:32
lgcjohanbr, I'm back. Synclient doesn't seem to work...05:32
johanbrlgc: Even with the SHMConfig line in xorg.conf ?05:33
AAApepo  locate bcmwl5a05:33
mloweescobar5, 1 min i will find packages to install ;)05:33
disco_stuWhat do you guys recommend for dvd ripping?05:33
lgcjohanbr, indeed.05:33
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escobar5ok, thanks05:33
lgcjohanbr, " Option          "SHMConfig"     "true"".05:34
cute_bettongcrimsun any idea?05:34
mloweescobar5, "sudo apt-get install usbutils"05:34
AAApepo  the driver doesn't sound like it loaded, did you compile this driver from source? did you do make install on the driver? paste that output when you can05:34
RipVanFishI can't get my wired ethernet working05:35
johanbrlgc: Hmm. It works for me. You can get my xorg.conf at http://nullinfinity.org/xorg.conf and see if there are any significant differences in the synaptics config.05:35
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crimsuncute_bettong: did you tell me the url?05:35
escobar5mlowe, already installed05:35
cute_bettongyes05:35
cute_bettongcrimsun http://pastebin.com/66649905:35
pepoAAA, see this the bcmwl5a its a driver for 32bits and bcmwl5 its for 64 bits05:35
AAARipVanFish  what is the problem?05:35
AAApepo  what is your arch? paste any output of that locate command05:35
pepobut bcmwl5a its not load05:35
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pepoAAA, nothing05:35
escobar5mlowe, i was reading in ubuntuforums that maybe it is some problem with the ATI drivers05:36
crimsuncute_bettong: amixer sset 'IEC958' off05:36
mloweescobar5, "sudo apt-get install ifupdown pciutils grepmap"05:36
AAApepo  lsmod|grep bcmwl505:36
johanbrpepo: Are you running amd64?05:36
cute_bettongcrimsun how do i change that?05:36
RipVanFishAAA, Well I can't use the internet on my Ubuntu intallation...but I can in Windows05:36
crimsuncute_bettong: type that precisely in a Terminal05:36
cute_bettongdo i sudo that?05:37
escobar5mlowe, already installed05:37
AAARipVanFish  ok, does ifconfig -a show you eth0 ?05:37
crimsuncute_bettong: I didn't type sudo, so no.05:37
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RipVanFishAA05:37
RipVanFishAAA yes it does05:37
cute_bettongand pepo you woulden't happen to be trying to get a belkin wireless card working would you?05:37
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nickgarveyhow would I remotely connect to my ubuntu computer, XDMCP is enabled05:37
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johanbrcute_bettong: I think he said before that it's broadcom.05:37
RipVanFishAAA I think DCHP isn't giving me an IP but I don't see why not05:37
mloweescobar5, "sudo apt-get install ifrename"05:37
AAARipVanFish  are you on a dsl line? or using dhcp? or on a network? do you know how your doze box was set up? ip address and such05:37
cute_bettongoh ok i know that driver works with belkins that have the broadcom chipset05:38
mloweescobar5, is hal, udev installed also ?05:38
cute_bettongso i was just thinking it was the same thing lol05:38
AAAnickgarvey  X -host foo (I think)05:38
disco_stuSo I got my ATI Svideo working on my TV - but I can only view movies properly when I set my monitor resolution to 800x600 - is there a way I can change my TV-Out display to always run at that and leave my monitor resolution alone?05:38
cute_bettongcrimsun is there anything else i need to do to fix this?05:38
crimsuncute_bettong: well, do you hear any sound now?05:38
escobar5mlowe, yes05:38
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RipVanFishAAA I'm on my University's network, it uses DHCP and the MAC address of my ethernet controller05:39
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cute_bettongnope05:39
IceToxHey.. I have a problem with viewing websites with java content. I've ran 'java -version' and it seems I have java version 1.4.2. Is there any way to get Sun's JRE?05:39
crimsuncute_bettong: mute 'External Amplifier'05:39
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mloweescobar5, how are you checking if package is install ?05:39
johanbrRipVanFish: What happens if you do "sudo dhclient eth0" in a terminal?05:39
ferrouswheelgah, anyone use matlab2006a in ubuntu amd64 dapper? X keeps dieing :(05:39
AAARipVanFish  cool. ifconfig eth0 up;dhclient eth005:39
cute_bettongcrimsun nope nothing O_o weard eh?05:39
cute_bettongthere isen't one singel change lol05:39
crimsuncute_bettong: not really.05:39
escobar5mlowe, apt-get install, and it says that is already the newest version05:40
cute_bettongreally this is to be expected?05:40
crimsuncute_bettong: unmute 'Surround', 'Center', and 'LFE'05:40
crimsuncute_bettong: and turn them up05:40
mrspecknewbie Q:  how do i get something to run right when the computer boots up?  (trying to automatically run 'svnserve -d')05:40
crimsuncute_bettong: also, make sure 'Duplicate Front' is unmuted.05:40
RipVanFishjohanbr when I use sudo dhclient it searches for a while and then fails05:40
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mloweescobar5, what version of ubuntu ?05:40
AAARipVanFish  did you ifconfig eth0 up?05:40
RipVanFishAAA you want me to run those commands?05:40
AAARipVanFish  yes05:41
RipVanFishAAA eth0 should be activated05:41
escobar5mlowe, 5.1005:41
pepoAAA, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1248305:41
AAARipVanFish  mii-tool eth005:41
mlowewhat desktop ?05:41
lgcjohanbr, the only significant difference is the PalmDetect line...05:41
escobar5mlowe, gnome05:41
mrspecknewbie Q: how do i get ubuntu to run something right when it starts (i need it to run 'svnserve -d') ?05:41
cute_bettongcrimsun nope nothing05:42
RipVanFishAAA 1 sec05:42
mloweplug in ipod, and get output from mount05:42
cute_bettongwow this is odd05:42
crimsuncute_bettong: fresh install or dist-upgraded from Hoary?05:42
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cute_bettongnope this is a fresh install of breezy05:42
AAAmrspeck  update-rc.d -f <pkg> defaults05:42
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cute_bettongcrimsun nope this is a fresh install of breezy05:42
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crimsuncute_bettong: what is 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' set to?05:43
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cute_bettongcrimsun where can i find out? and how?05:43
mrspeckAAA: ?  are you saying i should run that line?  what then? i'm very new to linux sorry05:43
johanbr lgc: Strange. Does "synclient -l" work?05:43
lgcjohanbr, no.05:43
eyequeuemrspeck, "man update-rc.d" explains ubuntu's boot philosophy, if you need that05:43
AAAmrspeck  yes sub <pkg> for the service05:44
crimsuncute_bettong: use alsamixer05:44
johanbrRipVanFish: Maybe you need to register the mac address with your university.05:44
cute_bettongcrimsun and thank you for helping me i really appriciate it05:44
mloweescobar5, plug in ipod, and get output from mount05:44
escobar5mlowe, also i have noticed that when ubuntu is booting, when it gets to the point of "starting hotplug subsystem" it doesn't say "ok", don't know if this helps but i tell you anyway05:44
AAARipVanFish  make sure you have a link05:44
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cute_bettongalsa mixer is what i have selected in the multimedia prefrences05:44
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RipVanFishjohanbr it is already registered, I can tell because I'm using the computer right now in windows05:44
mrspeckcool-- thanks AAA,eyequeue!05:44
johanbrlgc: Which version of ubuntu are you running?05:44
crimsuncute_bettong: no, the cli: alsamixer05:44
mloweescobar5, dmesg to pastebin please05:44
mloweescobar5, let me know when its there05:45
cute_bettongcrimsun whoah that is awesome05:45
cute_bettongnever knew about that05:45
lgcjohanbr, that might be the thing: good old Hoary.05:45
RipVanFishAAA I'm starting up my laptop05:45
AAARipVanFish  keep me posted05:45
AngryElfis setting up dual monitors a difficult task (stretching the screen across two screens)??05:45
johanbrlgc: I see. That could very well be it. I'd recommend upgrading in any case. :)05:46
panzerhi05:46
johanbrRipVanFish: How can you use the computer in windows and test ubuntu commands at the same time?05:46
DBOAngryElf, its not super easy, but it can be done with xinerama05:46
eyequeueAngryElf, there's an app that manages that, though i can't think of the name, i don't have the hw here05:46
RipVanFishjohanbr I'm starting up my laptop05:46
cute_bettongcrimsun is there something that should have changed i cranked everything in there all the way up O_o05:47
johanbrRipVanFish: So you're running two different computers? Are you behind a router?05:47
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lgcjohanbr, i'm about ready to upgrade. But do you know if I do "dist-upgrade" will end up with Dapper or Breezy?05:47
RipVanFishjohanbr not behind a router05:47
crimsuncute_bettong: certain things should be _muted_ and set to 0, namely 'IEC958'05:48
eyequeuelgc, it will end up with whatever /etc/apt/sources.list says :)05:48
mrspeckAAA: so i should run 'update-rd.d -f svnserve -d defaults'?  is that right-- even though svnserve doesn't show up in /etc/init.d?05:48
johanbrlgc: That depends on what you put in /etc/apt/sources.list .05:48
escobar5mlowe, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1248405:48
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johanbrRipVanFish: So, two different computers, directly connected to the university lan?05:48
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RipVanFishjohanbr yes05:48
crimsuncute_bettong: are 'Master Mono' and 'Mix' unmuted?05:48
swajI've noticed in dapper that sometimes when I open a new application, Gnome sends the application to the background without automatically focusing on it -- does anybody know how to change this behavior?05:49
cute_bettongcrimsun how do i tell they look all the way turned up05:49
nickgarvey!dapper05:49
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)05:49
RipVanFishjohanbr I'll brb05:49
crimsuncute_bettong: muted ones have 'MM' at the bottom; unmuted don't05:49
johanbrRipVanFish: But the computer running ubuntu will have a different mac address from the one running windows. Unless you've registered them both, you won't get an IP for the ubuntu machine.05:50
lgcjohanbr, as farf as I see, there are provisions for "universe", "multiverse", and so on, but nothing about Dapper or Breezy.05:50
crimsuncute_bettong: next, what is 'Surround Jack Mode' set to?05:50
cute_bettongshared05:50
cute_bettongcrimsun shared05:50
AngryElfi ask about the dual monitor thing cause newegg's got a pretty good deal on some 19" viewsonics right now05:50
eyequeue!tell lgc about repos05:50
AAAmrspeck  yes05:50
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crimsuncute_bettong: set it to independent and try agani05:50
crimsunagain^05:50
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AAAmrspeck  as long as the script lives in /etc/init.d/ you can run that command05:51
eyequeueexamples there lgc05:51
yipequick question, how do I install mplayer?05:51
RipVanFishAAA ok I'm ready05:51
yipethat's all I want05:51
AAARipVanFish  first do mii-tool eth005:51
yipeI can't find it in synaptic05:51
eyequeueyipe, see the bot05:51
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AAAyipe  you have to enable multiverse and/or universe05:51
cute_bettongcrimsun, there are to if those iec958 things in there05:51
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mloweescobar5, i am shooting in the dark, try another usb port05:51
johanbrlgc: Right. Presumably all (or at least most of) the lines you have there now say hoary. Copy them, but change hoary to either breezy or dapper, depending on what you'd like to upgrade to.05:51
mrspeckAAA: but there is no script in /etc/init.d/.  To start the demon i have to run svnserve -d on the command line05:51
yipearigatou gozaimasu!05:52
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RipVanFishAAA it's saying operation not supported05:52
crimsuncute_bettong: yes. Both should be muted.05:52
mrspeckAAA: oh but you're saying i should create the script?05:52
mloweoh, did you reboot after you did apt-get installs ?05:52
RipVanFishjohanbr ready for any ideas that you might have05:52
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AAAmrspeck  if you installed it via a deb or source, it is most likely already there, I am not familiar iwht that app though05:52
cute_bettongcrimsun there is no mute option just turn the volume down all the way?05:52
eyequeuelgc, btw, hoary -> breezy   and   breezy -> dapper   are supported, but directly from hoary -> dapper is unsupported05:52
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yipewow, that was insanely easy05:53
yipethank you!05:53
AAARipVanFish  what kind of nic is it? lspci will tell you05:53
TeddHi, can anyone help me? I want to install Windows but I know it overwrites the MBR05:53
AAAyipe  :)05:53
escobar5mlowe, thanks for your time, have to go know, maybe i will bother you later05:53
TeddDoes anyone know how to install Windows without it overwriting GRUB?05:53
crimsuncute_bettong: what's 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' set to?05:53
eyequeueyipe, yw05:53
mloweescobar5, yw05:53
johanbrRipVanFish: When you run "ifconfig -a" it prints a mac address for eth0. Have you registered that specific mac address with your university?05:53
TeddOr even if there's a way to install Windows without overwriting GRUB?05:53
swajdoes anybody know a way to improve the font rendering in tcl/tk applications like aMSN?  I enjoy aMSN, but man those grainy fonts look like garbage05:53
RipVanFishjohanbr yes it is registered05:54
yipe:)05:54
TennesseeTedd: Not to sure, I usually do it the other way around. But you could probably install GRUB again afterwards from a live CD.05:54
eyequeueTedd, i've heard that it's not other-os-friendly, and will overwrite the mbr05:54
RipVanFishjohanbr when I am on my windows partition I can connect to the internet05:54
AAAjohanbr  mii-tool should give a status regardless if he is auth'd or not05:54
cute_bettongcrimsun it's set to 005:54
eyequeueTedd, what Tennessee is your best bet05:54
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RipVanFishjohanbr unless for some reason the mac address is changing in ubuntu05:54
eyequeueTedd, what Tennessee said is your best bet05:54
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Teddeyequeue, can I install GRUB without a floppy05:54
RipVanFishAAA the ethernet controler is an ali corporation m523605:54
crimsuncute_bettong: what are the options for 1, 2 ,and 3?05:55
AAARipVanFish  it is most likey not, it _is_ possible to change your mac in *nix, but no where near the default05:55
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eyequeueTedd, from cd?05:55
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Teddeyequeue, yes05:55
eyequeueTedd, you'll need some form of bootable media05:55
AAARipVanFish  ok,do sudo ifconfig eth0 up;mii-tool eth005:55
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RipVanFishAAA wait a second...05:55
Teddeyequeue, I can use CD.05:55
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RipVanFishAAA wtf05:55
cute_bettongcrimsun i do not understand can you rephrase that please?05:55
RipVanFishAAA it's working05:55
AAARipVanFish  that should  be sudo mii-tool eth005:56
crimsuncute_bettong: what are the possible options beside 0?05:56
RipVanFishAAA but it only seems to do so randomly05:56
AAARipVanFish  hehe, now figure out what b0rk...05:56
cute_bettongcrimsun well from there it just lets you turn the volume up05:56
johanbrRipVanFish: Which ubuntu version are you running?05:56
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RipVanFishdapper flight 605:56
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AAARipVanFish  tail -n33 /var/log/syslog and paste that to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/05:57
TeddNever mind, eyequeue, all I need is to know how to compile CPP files05:57
TeddIn Anjuta all it does is spit out a .o file05:57
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AAAinstall c++05:57
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eyequeueTedd, /usr/bin/g++05:57
nargg++ -o name file.cpp05:57
Teddeyequeue, I did "g++ start.cpp and it didn't exactly work05:57
intelikey!b-e05:57
uboturumour has it, b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.05:57
eyequeueTedd, try what narg said05:58
nargotherwise you'll probably get a.out :p05:58
eyequeueTedd, name being the outputfilename05:58
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intelikeymake sure you have installed build-essential05:58
crimsuncute_bettong: do you have an optical connector to test with?05:58
RipVanFishAAA ok how do I use this site?05:58
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crimsuncute_bettong: have you tried audio again?05:58
RipVanFishAAA add a new post?05:59
AAARipVanFish  yes please05:59
cute_bettongcrimsun yes i have tryed the audio again and no i don't have an optical connector to test with why?05:59
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crimsuncute_bettong: the optical connector is used for the spdif, which is a faster way to test, otherwise we have to iterative through all combinations of controls, which is cumbersome and timeconsuming05:59
dcoyrug u there05:59
kethinovhow on earth do you get xvidcap working in ubuntu? it doesn't appear to compile and there aren't any working binaries...06:00
dcoyhelp06:00
RipVanFishAAA posted06:00
dcoyi am stuck06:00
dcoyi just installed ubuntu 5.10, after installation it asked me to remove any cd as the system was going to reboot. the system restarted, grub worked fine, then came the ubuntu screen and below that the processes, starting from 'loading modules'. but when it came to 'loading hotplug subsystem' it stuck, it remained there for around 1/2 an hour and then i restarted the system. i tried again but it stuck at the same point. why is this happening. please help.06:00
dcoymy system06:00
dcoyp4 2.4, 512 ram, agp geforce 6200, asrock 845 chipset motherboard06:00
cute_bettongcrimsun um sorry man i don't have one....honistly i thought those things where a myth lol06:00
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Teddnarg: I have an executable06:00
Teddhow can I run it?06:00
narg./executable06:00
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RipVanFishAAA might as well update everything now that it's online :D06:01
Teddnarg: thanks. Even though it was easier with Bloodshed :P06:01
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crimsuncute_bettong: which elements are muted?06:01
nargwhat is bloodshed, an IDE?06:01
dcoy*** help ***06:01
Teddnarg: Bloodshed Dev-C++ is an IDE for Windows.06:01
HobbseeTedd: a rather nice one too.06:02
intelikeydcoy  can you boot a live cd or other system to access the ubuntu root partition ?06:02
TeddHobbsee, you ain't kiddin'.06:02
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dcoyyep06:02
nargah. yea, IDEs are easier than doing it directly. Try KDevelop if your looking for a good C++ one on linux.06:02
dcoyi can use dsl06:02
dcoydamn small linux06:02
TeddKDevelop? Thanks for the tip, narg06:02
nickgarveyI love dsl06:02
HobbseeTedd: mind you, there are some nice programs for linux, like kdevelop3, or kate (with a terminal at the bottom)06:02
rviranihow do I resetup my apt sources.lst file, I want to add the repositories they werent added properl via setup06:02
TeddHobbsee, I tried KATE, it was okay06:02
Hobbsee!tell rvirani about repos06:02
TeddToo hard to customize, though06:02
nargHeh, KDevelop lets you customize yourself to death :p06:03
dcoythen...06:03
intelikeydcoy do that and remove the symlink in /etc/rcS.d/  that says *hotplug   then you can boot into ubuntu06:03
AAARipVanFish  ping 141.219.76.106:03
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AAARipVanFish  let it go for a bit and see if you loose any packets06:04
dcoywhat exactly is the problem..... ?06:04
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monziehow do i use bluetooth in Ubuntu?06:04
dcoythe os or the hardware?06:04
crimsuncute_bettong: alternately, just pastebin ``amixer'' output06:04
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dcoyintelikey06:05
intelikeydcoy prolly a little of both.06:05
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RipVanFishAAA seems to be working fine06:05
cute_bettongcrimsun http://pastebin.com/66653006:05
dcoybut if i remve hotplug, wont it create a problem later detecting my system hardware06:05
Teddnarg, KDevelop is nice06:05
intelikeydcoy hotplug is not playing nice with your hardware,  but who's fault is it ????  </shrugs>06:05
Teddhow can i change the background color though06:06
Teddthe Config Editor is whited-out06:06
AAARipVanFish  in the future if it goes out, I'd try sudo /etc/init.d/network restart to try and revive it06:06
nargTedd: Settings -> Config Editor -> errr06:06
nargTedd: whited out?06:06
TeddCan't select it.06:06
dcoyill give you the erroor which i het when i run the rescue mode06:06
nargTedd: apt-get install kate06:06
RipVanFishAAA you think it was something hardware related?06:06
crimsuncute_bettong: 'IEC958' is supposed to be muted.06:06
dcoy<0>Kernal Panic- not  syncing: fatal exception at interrupt .....06:06
Teddnarg: kate's installed06:06
dcoyit gets stuck at that line06:07
AAARipVanFish  hard to tell from the info I have, my guess is network traffic06:07
leagrisbonjou06:07
leagrisr06:07
leagrishello06:07
nargTedd: kdevelop3-plugins perhaps? :p06:07
cute_bettongcrimsun there isno option to mute06:07
intelikeythat's a kernel panic.    dcoy  what was just before that ?06:07
RipVanFishAAA that doesn't make much sense considering that Windows can connect every time06:07
dcoyintelikey- thats where it gets stuck06:07
crimsuncute_bettong: amixer sset 'IEC958' off06:08
intelikeydcoy kernel panic,  is not "hung"    it's   "dead"06:08
dcoyoh ok06:08
AAARipVanFish  I'd be happy to have you fly me out there and pay me to diagnose the problem for you :)06:08
Teddnarg: the 'kde' package isn't installed06:08
TeddI'm gonna install that and see what happens06:08
intelikeydcoy what is just before the kernel panics06:08
nargTedd: beware, its BIG :p06:09
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cute_bettongcrimsun nope still no sound06:09
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Teddnarg: yeah, I'd expect it to me06:09
Teddbe06:09
monzieplease help06:09
RipVanFishAAA lol, well I'm probably going to have to restart the computer as soon as these updates are done and I'll tell you what happens from there06:09
dcoyintelikey - got a lot of mem addresses06:09
crimsuncute_bettong: amixer sget 'IEC958'06:09
RipVanFishAAA besides depends on where you live :D06:09
monziei am unable to transfer data from my phone to the pc.. using bluetooth.. how do i do that?06:09
dcoyin the form [435234.56214]  sort of06:09
AAARipVanFish  minneapolis,mn06:09
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Teddnarg: can you use KDevelop3 to do PHP as well?06:09
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cute_bettongcrimsun want me to shoot it now or later?06:10
cute_bettong>.<06:10
nargTedd: it can do almost any language.06:10
crimsuncute_bettong: now.06:10
RipVanFishAAA oh you're not too far away 8 hour drive to Houghton, MI06:10
mischkoI'm running ona  P4 Intel proc.  Shouldn't I upgrade to the 686 version of the kernel?06:10
crimsunmischko: sure, linux-68606:10
brunosinitromodem speedstream usb ... configuration?06:10
mischkocrimsun: will it break anything?06:10
crimsunno06:10
mischkoHow do I get the source for it also?06:10
crimsunget linux-source-2.6.1506:10
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crimsunerr, linux-source-2.6.1206:11
cute_bettongcrimsun sorry man i don't know what i am doing wrong.....06:11
crimsuncute_bettong: has sound _ever_ worked?06:11
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monziecan someone help me with gnome-bluetooth please?06:11
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Teddnarg: thanks for the tipoff..hmm, KDevelop Designer...very interesting, is that for developing GUIs?06:11
dcoy(intelikey): .06:11
Eleafhey there!06:11
cute_bettongcrimsun i have just gotten this bord tonight as the old one was even less freindlyer by appearances06:11
crimsuncute_bettong: does the sound work in another OS?06:12
mischkocrimsun: It should perform faster as a result?06:12
cute_bettongcrimsun but what ended up happning is i am haveing the same issues as before06:12
nargTedd: Yes, with Qt. I prefer designer-qt, but thats another option. Qt is a very nice toolkit, one of the best.06:12
cute_bettongcrimsun yes the sound works in windows xp06:12
EleafDo you reccomend gdesklets as a 'widget-like' environment or is there something better?  Gdesklets seems to be showing its age.. ; /06:12
TeddNever heard of Qt, narg.06:12
cute_bettongevery thing runs in windows xp06:12
crimsuncute_bettong: do a cold power cycle06:12
RipVanFishI agree06:12
dcoyis there any chatroom on hotplug? @intelikey06:12
nargTedd: Everything in KDE uses Qt :)06:12
cute_bettongcrimsun ok i will brb06:12
eyequeueEleaf, in breezy or dapper?06:12
TeddThat's basically all I know :P06:12
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Eleafeyequeue, dapper..06:12
crimsunmischko: not necessarily, but you may see improvement in selected cpu-intensive apps06:12
mischkok06:13
brunosinitroi need help ....06:13
intelikeydcoy it's prolly not a hotplug issue.06:13
eyequeueEleaf, it has a bug presently making it uninstallable06:13
nargTedd: there are guides around for it if you are ever interested in trying it.06:13
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mischkoI'm trying to get a video driver from VIA working with this so DVD playback may be better.06:13
dcoyok06:13
Eleafeyequeue, alright.  What are some more modern alternatives?06:13
dcoythen.....06:13
Teddnarg: I'm reading a "C++ for Dummies" book. :P06:13
TeddI still have to finish learning bool. In between learning C++ and school I have to code a fully-functional PHP website06:13
nargTedd: You probably want the basics before doing GUIs, but later on.06:14
narglearning bool?06:14
eyequeueEleaf, i'm unaware of any, sorry.  though it's different in philosophy, gkrellm might accomplish some of what you want06:14
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TeddI just got up to bool in the book.06:14
TeddIt's easy, I just haven't finished reading the example06:14
dcoywell thanks dude06:14
nargwhat is bool...? boolean?06:14
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TeddBoolean, yes06:14
Eleafeyequeue, hmm06:14
nargoh, you mean the datatype. I thought you meant a language :p06:14
mischkoHow do I tell Ubuntu to use the 686 kernel by default?06:15
crimsunmischko: it will as soon as you install it and reboot06:15
mischkoWill it uninstall the 386 kernel as well?06:15
crimsunno, you have to do that yourselfl06:15
eyequeuemischko, apt-get install linux-68606:15
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mischkoAdept is getting linux-686 now.06:16
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cute_bettongcrimsun nope nothing06:16
eyequeuemischko, some of us prefer to leave an old kernel around until we test the new one, hence the reason why hyou have to manually uninstall06:16
BoukenPinkHuh... I seem to be having sync issues with youtube and flash videos in general. Anyone have any ideas?06:16
mischkoeyequeue: makes sense.06:16
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mischkorebooting....06:17
cute_bettongcrimsun i think i am going to just put my soundblaster live in there......oh and do you know why i would have such a low fps in glx gears it's been hapning for the last 3 monthes and i have switched mainbords with the same results....a very very low fps06:17
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followmearoundhey all ... is there a way to install a basic/clean ubuntu install to a drive while in a working install of ubuntu already?06:18
freakabcdhi all06:18
crimsuncute_bettong: I don't do graphics troubleshooting.06:18
lgceyequeue, thanks. It's clear enough now. But say, is there any way to preserve the installation of the so many packages I apt-get installed for Hoary?06:18
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freakabcdi've got a strange problem now..06:18
freakabcdi'm on dapper updated to latest packages a few days ago06:18
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followmearounddoes that make any sense? ... I have a laptop drive intended for a laptop with no CDRM, it's currently connected to this laptop via usb, but the ubuntu installer can't deal with it ... I want to blast a base install onto it from here06:19
Fudgei need to install tcl but apt-get install tcl doesnt work06:19
freakabcdmy search domains in etc/resolv.conf don't work anymore06:19
cute_bettongcrimsun ok thank you before i get that sb live is there anything else i should check? do you want the mainbord model? i would really like to have this board working lol and thank you for helping me06:19
eyequeuelgc, it will typically upgrade a package to the newer version, but not uninstall it unless there is a conflict, which is rare06:19
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RugHowdy all06:19
crimsuncute_bettong: you could file a bug with all the info I've asked of you06:19
eyequeuelgc, is that sufficient for what you want?06:19
cute_bettongcrimsun ok will do06:20
BoukenPink... I guess not >.>06:20
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cute_bettongi have to go now though thanx ^_^06:20
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Fudgecan someone tell me how i can install tcl using apt-get please?06:20
eyequeuelgc, dpkg --get-selections > mycurrentpackagelist   if you just want to be able to reinstall the same packages later (with dpkg --set-selections < mycurrentpackagelist)06:20
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cge__followmearound: yes, look around for things about debootstrap.06:21
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lgceyequeue, I guess. Only that I had installed some packages via "dpkg -i". but I see you got ahead of me and answered that also.06:21
OrTigaShi! i'm back! why my wallpaper is pixelated when i try to download from site... my aetting is 1024x76806:22
intelikeyFudge tcl8.4 maybe06:22
eyequeueFudge, sudo apt-get install tcl8.0  (up to 8.4, depending on which you want)06:22
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Fudgethankyou06:22
cge__OrTigaS: what resolution is the wallpaper? Most likely the wallpaper's resolution is too small.06:22
eyequeuelgc, 99% liklihood that they will be unchanged, or possibly a newer version06:22
OrTigaShow can i make it like 1280x102406:23
intelikeyFudge do an apt-cache search tcl | less    it will list avalable package names.06:23
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nickgarveyOrTigaS: ask the person who made the wall paper to make a better resolution version heh06:23
Fudgek ill try06:23
Fudgebe rite bakk06:23
followmearoundcge ... can you give me anymore keywords to search for?06:23
OrTigaSi tried the 1024x768 but still pixelated06:23
RipVanFishAAA updates installed, here goes nothing06:23
OrTigaSGNOME-Look.org??06:23
OrTigaSi try on that site06:23
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nickgarveywould a kernel update take more than an hour?06:24
AAARipVanFish  good luck06:24
intelikeyFudge when you get the correct name    do   sudo apt-get install <correct name>06:24
RipVanFishAAA going to try the new kernel06:24
AAAnickgarvey  prolly not06:24
nickgarveyrunning on a battery heh06:24
lgceyequeue, so "dpkg --get-selections" will deal also with apt-get installed packages?06:24
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nickgarveyAAA: okie thank you06:24
cgeHmm... does anyone know if there is a guide on how to use debootstrap to install Ubuntu?06:24
eyequeuenickgarvey, compiling it?  it could, depending on the cpu speed and how much you build into it06:24
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eyequeuelgc, it will create a list of what is "selected"06:25
nickgarveyeyequeue: no just an update, no compiling06:25
RipVanFishAAA network claims it's disconnected :(06:25
nickgarveycge: http://ubuntu-hppa.pateam.org/install.php I think..06:25
ArtVandalaeI just installed Flight 6 (great piece of work :D), but I didn't see the livecd/installation CD with graphical installer. Is this still going to appear in Drapper?06:25
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OrTigaSok, forget that wallpaper first... let resolve this sharing first06:26
lgceyequeue, what do you mean here by "selected"?06:26
eyequeuenickgarvey, as in, d/l the new deb, install it, run grub, and reboot?  the d/l is the bottleneck, if you're on an ancient modem maybe, heh06:26
cgefollowmearound: how comfortable are you with using the CLI?06:26
OrTigaSuntil now it wont show the windows machine to my box...06:26
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OrTigaSin a network06:26
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followmearoundcge,  very ... I found the reference page I needed06:26
followmearoundhttp://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apcs04.html.en06:26
Teddnarg: THANK YOU for the tip about KDevelop06:27
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nargTedd: The editor config work?06:27
Teddnarg; Still no "compile" option, doing it by hand with g++ ftl :P06:27
Teddnarg; yeah thanks06:27
cgefollowmearound: Oh good - just remember that those instructions are for debian, so whenever it says to put in a debian server, put in an ubuntu server instead, and so on.06:27
nargTedd: You need to make a 'project'. After that, you can do f2 to compile-run, and f8 to just compile06:27
eyequeuelgc, okay, in aptitude, dselect, synaptic, whatever you list package in ... when you say "i want these packages installed" that's what i mean by "selected" here06:27
TeddOooooh.06:27
TeddThanks narg.06:27
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eyequeuelgc, as contrasted with "i'm not interested in having these packages on my machine"06:28
eyequeuelgc, the manually installed (dpkg -i foo.deb) packages are also considered selected06:29
kethinovwhen i try to launch gnome sound recorder i get "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings." where is this multimedia settings options menu it's talking about?06:31
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jeff303has anyone built firefox 1.5 from source on breezy?06:31
RipVanFishanyone help me figure out what's wrong with my internet?06:32
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eyequeuekethinov, system > preferences > sound, perhaps?06:32
kethinoveyequeue, nothing in there about audio capture...06:32
eyequeuekethinov, i'm unsure where else to try, sorry06:33
OrTigaSuntil now it wont show the windows network machine to my box... any idea why(Samba Installed)06:33
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AngryElf!dvd06:36
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ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)06:36
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nubeehi fellows06:36
RipVanFish!network06:36
ubotuThis refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.06:36
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RioMerchello06:37
RioMercum06:37
nubeehaving some issues here with an audigy4, anyone got a URL for a howto?06:37
RioMercI need to know how to properly write an ISO to a disk06:37
nubeeRioMerc, man cdrecord06:38
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RioMercFrom a windows box ><06:38
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RioMercI'm trying to restore my ubuntu06:38
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hyphenatedRioMerc: with a CD-burning app. There should be a menu item for 'Burn CD Image' or something similar06:38
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RipVanFishanyone know why ubuntu doesn't want to connect to the internet every time I boot up?06:39
RioMercah sh!t06:39
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RioMercsorry06:39
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RioMercwhats a good free CD-burning app?06:39
hyphenatedk3b ;-)06:39
nickgarveyRioMerc: gnomebaker or k3b06:39
OrTigaSRipVanFish,  did u notice the synch time if it failed or ok when booting?06:39
nickgarveyI perfer k3b06:39
_jasonubotu: tell RioMerc about burniso06:39
spoonk3b06:40
hyphenatedI got no idea about CD burning apps on windows06:40
RioMercarrrrrgh!06:40
cgeYou can use cdrecord on windows :)06:40
_jasonRioMerc: the wiki gives you a windows one I believe06:40
RioMercreally?06:40
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kethinovis there a way to capture all sounds currently playing in an X11 session and write them to an audio file?06:40
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followmearoundcge, here's the ubuntu-ized version06:41
followmearoundhttp://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/warty/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/apcs03.html06:41
followmearoundthe current distro is 'dapper'?06:41
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nickgarveyfollowmearound: no that's the next one06:41
intelikeykethinov you mean like   cat /dev/dsp > sound.file ?06:41
nickgarvey!tell followmearound about dapper06:41
concept10I have two copies of Firefox 1.5 on my system (local install and the .deb), will an update of the local affect the .deb install?06:41
followmearoundbleeding edge/unstable, whatever06:41
followmearoundthat's what I want to be running06:42
cgefollowmearound: thanks, now I will know what to tell people.06:42
cgefollowmearound: yes06:42
nickgarvey!tell followmearound about upgrade06:42
followmearoundnp, thanks for getting me pointed in the right direction06:42
harisundCan someone tell me where I should look in order to get Ubuntu to do internet connection sharing, or act as a DHCP Server?06:42
hyphenatedfollowmearound: if you want to use dapper, join #ubuntu+106:42
kethinovintelikey, well, if i do that i get an error about the device being busy06:42
followmearoundwhat was the version called before dapper?06:42
followmearoundwarty?06:42
hyphenatedbreezy06:42
b0sehey guys.. is there a package for compiling kernels? i tried installing binutils, but i still dont have the "patch" program?06:42
_jasonfollowmearound: warty hoary breezy dapper06:42
AngryElfthe gpg keys listed at the seveas packages page on the wiki are broken.......where else can i get libdvdcss2?06:42
hyphenatedwarty is like the 2004 version06:43
_jasonAngryElf: broken in what way?06:43
AngryElfas in the command it gives to import them doesn't work06:43
_jasonAngryElf: what error do you get06:43
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[chris] sup06:43
cgeb0se: kernel-package?06:43
OrTigaSuntil now it wont show the windows network machine to my box... any idea why(Samba Installed)06:44
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b0secge, lifesaver :)06:44
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mathew-efDoes anybody know how to find & install Sun Java Desktop's look (themes, icons, fonts etc) in Ubuntu 5.10?06:45
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cgekethinov: if no one has answered your question, you could try vsound.06:46
TTilusmathew-ef: why would you want to do that?06:46
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[chris] Anyone have any luck getting oident to work?06:47
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TTilusmathew-ef: that said, your question propably translates to: does anybody know how to find a java desktop theme for gnome (or kde)?06:48
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sandshi06:49
mathew-efTTilus: Yes, I need Sun Java Desktop look (themes, fonts etc) in GNOME/Ubuntu. Is it possible? I like that look etc06:49
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mrspecki'm very confused-- svnserve is the command to start the svn server-- to start as a demon u simply do 'svnserve -d', but there is nothing like svn* in /etc/init.d... so how i do just simply run this command at startup?  i am daunted by the skeleton script in /etc/init.d06:50
intelikeymrspeck add  'svnserve -d' to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh06:52
lgceyequeue, (sorry about the delay) I see. So I won't lose my settings, my preferences and so on when I upgrade?06:52
harisundWhere can I find SSH Daemon's logs?06:52
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eyequeuelgc, right06:53
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mathew-efTTilus: Any replies pls06:54
TTilusmathew-ef: you could check gnome themes http://art.gnome.org/themes06:54
kethinovcge, vsound is throwing errors when i attempt to use it about some mussing *.au file06:54
sandsAnyone Help me getting green smiley in azureus :(  Now i'm getting yellow smiley06:54
harisundCan somebody tell me where I can find the SSH server's logs?06:55
cgekethinov: no idea then, sorry. I haven't used it in years.06:55
TTilusmathew-ef: i did not find anything having "java" in its name06:56
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RipVanFishsands are you behind a router?06:56
TTilusmathew-ef: you could also check themes available to kde06:56
intelikeyharisund did you look in /var/log  ?06:56
harisundintelikey I didn, but couldn't find anything related to SSH06:56
lampshadeAnyone know a way to make the master volume control, actually be the master volume? In other words, when I move it up and down, it does not change the Headphone volume, I have to do that individually which annoys the hell out of me06:56
eyequeueharisund, try /var/log/auth.log06:56
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sandsI dont know abt that..I'm having a static ip thru etrenet card06:57
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VR_is there ANY way to prevent XMMS from flashing like crazy in the taskbar?06:57
VR_i know it's a bug... but is there a solution06:57
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mrspeckthank you intellikey!!! you are my saviour!06:57
harisundeyequeue and intelikey: I have stopped sysklogd. Will that affect SSH's logging facility?06:57
eyequeuelampshade, "master" != "headphone", but try right clicking on the control and setting it to headphone06:57
RipVanFishsands it also sometimes depends on the torrent06:58
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javadhello there06:58
lampshadeeyequeue, I know they don't equal, that's why I'm asking.  Is there a way to make it that way?06:58
eyequeueharisund, ssh to localhost while you tail -f /var/log/auth.log, with sysklogd stopped and started (i'm not sure, but that can test)06:59
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javadI am a beginer in ubuntu I want to install cross assembler 8085 on ubuntu can u help me plz06:59
lampshadeI have nice volume up and down buttons, but they will only move the mater volume, if there was a way to just bind the headphone to do the exact same as master, I'd be good to go06:59
OrTigaSuntil now it wont show the windows network machine to my box... any idea why(Samba Installed)06:59
eyequeuelampshade, you mean the control on the top right?  try the right-click trick06:59
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harisundeyequeue: Nope that doesn't work. But it does required sysklogd to log. I was just curious to know that. thanks a lot ! (I have disabled as many logs as I can .... )06:59
followmearoundhmmm ... ldconfig just segfaults07:00
sandsRipVanFish, When i use the cnfig wizrd and test some port it says NAT error07:00
eyequeueharisund, i was curious too, thanks for telling me07:00
lampshadeeyequeue, right click the icon in the taskbar?  That just gives me options to remove from the panel and such, where did you mean to right click?07:00
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eyequeuelampshade, right-click it, then select "preferences"07:01
RipVanFishsands are you directly connected to the internet? who is your internet service provider?07:01
lampshadeeyequeue, yeah, ok, then what?07:01
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NickGarveyhow would I turn a cdrom into an iso?07:01
sandsI'm from India..I get internet thru a local service provider07:01
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lgceyequeue, how long does it typically take to dist-upgrade?07:01
eyequeuelampshade, mine thn says "select the device and track to control" and you can then select headphone07:01
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RipVanFishsands so you plug directly into a wall?07:02
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mrkojeNickGarvey: you need software that will preform that function07:02
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eyequeuelgc, i typically give it an evening, if i'm going to be attending it... it depends how much you have installed of course07:02
intelikeyhehhe disabled as many logs.....    rm /var/log -fr ;ln -s /dev/null /var/log    :)07:02
javadWho is familiar with PROLOG here?07:02
dooglusjavad: I am07:02
intelikeydon't try that at home.... ^07:02
NickGarveymrkoje: okie, any thoughts of software that will do that?07:02
bcchi guys, what command does cron call to mail output?07:02
lampshadeeyequeue, doesn't work, even if it did, wouldn't be an exact solution as next time I wasn't on headphones, I would have to switch off headphones to master and then reset the master to the right volume.  What I really need is just something that binds the two together kinda like how the little chains bind the two channels together so they go up and down together07:03
javadhey man I have so many troubles in one assignment would you please help me07:03
sandsRipVanFish, yeah07:03
intelikeybcc procmail  iirc07:03
NickGarveymrkoje: I think all I needed was   dd if=/dev/cdrom of=my_cd_image.iso07:03
dooglusjavad: not yet; can you be more specific?07:03
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bccintelikey: so if it's not installed then it just doesn't call it?07:03
mrkojeNickGarvey: I'm not sure off the top of my head but I hear that google is a good resource for finding out!07:03
AngryElf_jason, the gpg key import worked but now it says that libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate07:03
eyequeuelampshade, i'm unfamiliar with such a tool, though i guess someone more sound-fluent might be able to write one07:03
javadno it is not specisic07:03
RipVanFishsands can you try testing any other ports?07:03
lgceyequeue, one very stupid question: what happen if I do "apt-get dist-upgrade" without messing with "sources.list"?07:03
javadspesific*07:04
nubeeanyone know anything about broken gcc-version.sh scripts? it seems that the script in 2.6.12-10-386 is not quite right...07:04
javadcoz this assignment is so important for me:(07:04
nubeeor am i missing something obvious07:04
NickGarveymrkoje: yeah dd if=/dev/cdrom of=my_cd_image.iso seems to be working... we will see thouh07:04
intelikeybcc hmmmm maybe linked through alternatives ...  i don't do alternatives so idk.07:04
eyequeuelgc, it is rather close to a no-op, meaning it will do almost nothing, though it will "check" a bit first, to see if it can07:04
dooglusjavad: so let me get this right; you've come to #ubuntu to ask someone to do your homework for you?07:04
sandsRipVanFish, Yeah I tested a lot of random ports 49152 - 65534 range..But Nat error07:04
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eyequeuelgc, let me perhaps give you a useful switch?07:05
RipVanFishsands it may be that your isp blocks bittorrent dowloads07:05
lampshadesands, bittorrent and a router?  What router?07:05
bccintelikey: do you know if there is a way to make cron use qmail instead?07:05
javadhey man you think wrong07:05
lgceyequeue, go ahead.07:05
eyequeuelgc, after you go ahead and make the source.list changes, and apt-get update ...07:05
B4zzAanyone know what Error 18 with grub means?07:06
javadI just wanna some hints07:06
eyequeuelgc, apt-get -d dist-upgrade, meaning --download-only07:06
dooglusjavad: what kind of hints?07:06
intelikeybcc in other words, it might use procmail or sysmail or what ever alternative is there....  so check /etc/alternatives/     but that's all i know about that.07:06
sandsRipVanFish, I'm able to download but with less speed and yellow smiley..Does that mean blocking by my ISP07:06
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bccintelikey: ok, thanks07:06
eyequeuelgc, let it do that long d/l without you sitting there, while you sleep :)07:06
sandslampshade, Azureus07:06
FlannelKingsands: you have your router opened up?07:06
javadyou know I should create one data base in prolog07:06
RipVanFishsands it might, did you used to get green smileys?07:06
eyequeuelgc, then take the -d off when you're ready to watch it07:06
javadso I am so confused in this matter07:07
mathew-efdoes anybody know how to find a java desktop theme for gnome?07:07
sandsRipVanFish, I never saw green07:07
intelikeymathew-ef yes.07:07
eyequeuemathew-ef, wild guess here, gnome-look.org?  i don't know07:07
javadcoz I am begginer in this course and this assignment is so hard07:07
javadfor us07:07
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OrTigaShi! anyone can help me because my box wont see other window machine..07:07
RipVanFishsands yeah it might be your isp or just a bad tracker in the torrent07:08
OrTigaSSamba installed07:08
NickGarveyOrTigaS: can the windows machine see you?07:08
nubeeah found it, required version of gcc is 3.4 i'm running 4.x07:08
FlannelKingsands: did you open up your routers ports?07:08
lampshadesands, cool, what router?  I got mine to get off of the nat errors by telling it to use port 6881 and then having my router have port trigerring for that port.  I also enabled encryption where available which is an option in Azureus.  Lastly, I made sure the IPtables rules I had already made didn't block it(this doesn't apply to you unless you have done some firewall things)07:08
OrTigaSNickGarvey,  yes but cant access07:08
lgceyequeue, what is "--download-only"?07:08
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NickGarveylgc: download but don't install07:08
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lgcNickGarvey, and how does one proceed afterward?07:09
sandsActually I donno what a router is..I'm connected thru an ethernet card.07:09
eyequeuelgc, well, you're aware there are a ton of upgraded packages it will need to fetch before it installs them.  -d says to fetch them, but not install them, just do the downloading part07:09
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lampshadesands, oh ok07:09
FlannelKingsands: you're connected straight into your modem?07:09
lampshadethen yeah just forget the port forwarding stuff07:09
lgceyequeue, and then?07:09
eyequeuelgc, then you can supervise the actual installation later, when you have time07:09
NickGarvey!qemu07:10
ubotuI heard qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=107:10
eyequeuelgc, just leave off the -d then of course07:10
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sandsFlannelKing, thru lan card..07:10
FlannelKingsands: right, and then ethernet cable to... cable modem?07:10
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eyequeuelgc, it's safer to do the downlad as a separate run07:11
benplaut    /who freenode/*07:11
sandsFlannelKing, cable to lan card.. tats it07:11
benplautwoops07:11
NickGarveysands: what does "ifconfig | grep addr" return?07:11
FlannelKingsands: eh?  cable modem, to your NIC. right?07:11
lgceyequeue, if I get you right, I do the "-d" option and then "apt-get dist-upgrade" without it to do the actual upgrade?07:11
eyequeuelgc, for example, a firewall could be disabled near the beginning of a dist-upgrade, nd not re-enabled until it completes, possibly hours later (a bug i filed recently)07:12
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sandseth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:08:A1:83:C0:E207:12
eyequeuelgc, yes, correct07:12
sands          inet addr:172.16.11.15  Bcast:172.16.255.255  Mask:255.255.0.007:12
sands          inet6 addr: fe80::208:a1ff:fe83:c0e2/64 Scope:Link07:12
sands          Interrupt:23 Base address:0xd80007:12
sands          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.007:12
sands          inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host07:12
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sandsFlannelKing, yeah07:12
NickGarveysands: eek don't paste here, but yes you don't need to port forward07:12
mathew-efeyequeu: I could not find it there?07:12
intelikeycan you send a file to another person with this irc thingy ?07:12
nubeeit's always the obvious doh07:13
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PuMpErNiCkElintelikey: yes, if you don't have a firewall/router, by using DCC07:13
lgceyequeue, thanks for your help. I'm about to jump off the cliff...07:13
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eyequeuemathew-ef, i have no other ideas, sorry.  maybe intelikey knows?07:13
FlannelKingintelikey: DVV Send, where the Vs are Cs (and you get banned if you say it in here, so dont).07:13
eyequeuelgc, heh07:14
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eyequeueintelikey, /dcc send alice filename, typically07:14
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itzjbyrdhello room07:14
intelikeyPuMpErNiCkEl  buy you didn't finish my test to see if they had removed the ban on that string yet or not.....07:14
intelikeynm eyequeue did07:15
PuMpErNiCkElintelikey: eyequeue did :P07:15
jack-!lart itzjbyrd07:15
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jack-wtd07:15
jack-no lart :<07:15
intelikeyyes...   i just wanted to check that.07:15
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danielchUbuntu is great, except that big PASSWORD bug.07:15
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jack-password bug?07:15
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intelikeyPuMpErNiCkEl  ;/07:15
mathew-efintelikey: can you pls reply?07:15
NickGarveydanielch: if you mean root isn't there by default, its not a bug its a security feature07:16
NickGarveydanielch: a lot of my friends never even enable root just for security07:16
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jack-sudo passwd, and its fixed already07:16
jack-no biggie07:16
danielchyes, after installing you can find password in the installation log.07:16
Madpilotdanielch, already patched07:16
danielchbut it has fixed07:16
FlannelKing!ops07:16
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NickGarveyoh yeah I remember that07:16
aloonif a person doesnt have a section in system settings of kde called display, what do you install to get one?07:16
intelikeymathew-ef oh about does anyone know......    yes someone does.    and if i was looking for theems   i'd try google.07:16
MadpilotFlannelKing, ?07:16
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skplcan someone tell me what plugins i need to download in order to play .wma files in banshee?07:17
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nubeeALSA modules were successfully compiled. !! w00t07:17
FlannelKingeyequeue would like to talk to you.  right.07:17
spikebyeah that one was pretty stupid heh07:17
MadpilotFlannelKing, done ;)07:17
danielchwhy the bug happened?07:17
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jack-skpl: win32codecs, from universe07:17
nubeehmm need to remove the old alsa stuff07:17
eyequeuethanks, FlannelKing and whomever07:17
Madpiloteyequeue, mind the D C C strings, Ubugtu bites :P07:17
spikebdanielch, same reason any other bug happens - a mistake.07:17
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javadHello I am a begginer in ubuntu how can I copy one file to one NTFS file in ubuntu?07:17
skpljack-, is that the package name?07:17
eyequeueMadpilot, so i notiVed, lol07:18
jack-yes07:18
intelikeyeyequeue sorry for doing that to you...07:18
NickGarvey!tell javad about ntfs07:18
FlannelKingjavad: you can read the NTFS, but not write.07:18
mathew-efintelikey: OK, I will try again but when I searched before I could not find that properly07:18
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skpljack-, thank you07:18
jack-get an universe repo into your sources.list, do apt-get update and apt-get install w32codecs07:18
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jack-i think thats the right name07:18
danielchI think there is something wrong in the project07:18
eyequeueintelikey, i learned a bot-quirk, heh.  no prob if it wasn't intentional my man :)07:18
MadpilotdAndy, in which project?07:18
skpljack-, i have universe enabled but i do not see the package in syanptic, are you sure?07:18
Madpilotdanielch, rather ^^^07:19
jack-it should be there07:19
danielchthe password bug07:19
FlannelKingit's w32codecs07:19
javadso how can I copy the files which I downloaded from internet to the specific drive?!!107:19
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dAndy? :)07:19
jack-yep, w32codecs07:19
FlannelKingskpl, w32 not win. jack-07:19
MadpilotdAndy, sorry, tab-complete error07:19
danielchI love Ubuntu07:19
jack-<jack-> get an universe repo into your sources.list, do apt-get update and apt-get install w32codecs07:19
intelikeyeyequeue ah... but it was.  hehhe   i was checking to see if the ban was still on  dcc.send07:19
jack-;07:19
jack-;x07:19
maxallenare there any plans for not having ridiculous dependencies in ubuntu and some installer package selection?07:19
danielchbut something makes me confused07:19
eyequeueintelikey, :P in that case07:19
mathew-efDoes anybody knows how to export a GNME desktop settings (themes, fonts, menues etc) from one PC to another07:19
Madpilotdanielch, that pw/installer bug was fixed within 12hrs of being discovered...07:19
PuMpErNiCkEljavad: check out teh Captive project... http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/07:19
FlannelKingmaxallen: which ones?  a lot of time it's just overlooked.07:19
maxallenlike, i'd love to get rid of totem07:19
maxallenbut guess what has totem as a dependency?07:20
maxallenubuntu-desktop07:20
FlannelKingtotem? ;)07:20
[chris] sup sup07:20
spikebmaxallen, duh07:20
FlannelKingright.  you can get rid of ubuntu-desktop though07:20
danielchMadpilot, but the bug has existed for long time07:20
Madpilotmaxallen, ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage07:20
FlannelKingits just a meta package.07:20
jack-maxallen, np07:20
jack-you can remove ubuntu-desktop, it wont hurt07:20
maxallenwhat does ubuntu-desktop have?07:20
FlannelKingmaxallen: because once you remoe totem, you don't have the "full" "ubuntu-desktop"07:20
intelikeymaxallen only deps07:20
skplFlannelKing, yeah that is what i searched for07:20
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jack-ubuntu-desktop is just useful when you switch from kde, for example07:21
Madpilotdanielch, my understanding is that the bug existed undiscovered and unexploited since Breezy's release, and was found & fixed in 12hrs or so...07:21
benplautwhy does the bot have a problem with d c c?07:21
jack-since it makes sure gdm is enabled and runs, etc07:21
eyequeuethe only time not having "ubuntu-desktop" will be a worry is when you dist-upgrade to dapper, etc07:21
Madpilotbenplaut, because of the exploits a while ago07:21
benplautoohh07:21
FlannelKingbenplaut: it's D-- with Send, because of the router exploit crap.07:21
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tonyyarussointelikey: You truly are devilish at times, aren't you?07:21
PuMpErNiCkElbenplaut: Because for awhile there was an exploit for some IRC clients involving D** attacks.07:21
javadit doesn't work :(07:21
benplautwith the netgear routers?07:21
danielchMadpilot, yes,07:21
FlannelKingit's not clients, it's firewalls (norton) and some routers.07:21
nubeeshould make a package of this.07:21
maxallenso ubuntu-desktop isn't something you really uninstall?07:21
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sandsNickGarvey, What might be the problem??07:21
jack-exactly, its just a metapackage07:22
FlannelKingmaxallen: right.  It's meant for installation, not uninstallation.07:22
Madpilotmaxallen, you can remove it if you need to - I don't have it installed right now07:22
jack-nothing depends on it, nothing is contained in it07:22
NickGarveysands: with what?07:22
eyequeuemaxallen, a full answer: "apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop | grep ^Depends"07:22
maxallenthanks07:22
PuMpErNiCkElFlannelKing: There was a client-disconnect exploit, though, wasn't there?  I thought there was.07:22
intelikeytonyyarusso if playfull is,  i guess i am.   it wasn't like it hurt anything.07:22
NickGarveysands: bad short time memory07:22
sandsNickGarvey, azureus07:22
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slimzhey guys, couple of quick questions, first, i would like to know if there's a way to disable pcmcia from system startup, as it always fails, and im not using a laptop07:22
NickGarveyPuMpErNiCkEl: there was one where you typed "start keylogger" and nortan would kick07:22
tonyyarussointelikey: No, it appears not to have :)07:22
javadso, one more question07:22
eyequeuemaxallen, think of it as a package that says "go get me the following list of things"07:22
FlannelKingPuMpErNiCkEl: it was because the firewall/router (router was because it had a built in firewall) would recognize the string, and put the irc server (freenode) on a blacklist.07:22
maxallenalright, thanks07:22
jack-FlannelKing: ATH+++ !07:23
blindxI have a USB bluetooth dongle, is there a list of supported ones for ubuntu?07:23
jack-:P07:23
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javadhow can I install one program in ubuntu which I downloaded from internet?07:23
jack-remember?07:23
FlannelKingjack-: uh?07:23
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jack-modems07:23
jack-back then in the stone age07:23
eyequeuejavad, dpkg -i foo.deb07:23
maxallenbut i get what you're saying, thanks07:23
danielchI have used Ubuntu for 10 months, but there is problem always companying me.07:23
tonyyarussoslimz: Let me get back to you in a sec.07:23
benplautjavad: have you checked if the program was in Synaptic?07:23
NickGarveydo share danielch07:23
PuMpErNiCkElFlannelKing: No, there was another one with irssi - http://secunia.com/advisories/19090/?show_all_related=107:23
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intelikeytonyyarusso if you used the word 'devilish' in respect of deception,  yeah i tricked him.  guilty as charged.07:23
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danielchI used Toshiba laptop TE2000,07:24
eyequeuenubee, you may want to apt-get install build-essential, with that list07:24
tonyyarussointelikey: Exactly.  Oh well.07:24
FlannelKingPuMpErNiCkEl: oh, look at that.  no, that's not what ubotuwas banning about.  I hadn't even heard of that one.07:24
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FlannelKingPuMpErNiCkEl: although that explains why my irssi was updated in march ;)07:24
tonyyarussoslimz: Okay, I'm going to tell you the long-the-first-time-but-easy-in-the-long-run way, okay?07:24
PuMpErNiCkElFlannelKing: It was out about the same time as the Norton one, so that might be why it went unnoticed.07:24
slimztonyyarusso, sure07:25
danielchwhen I am running Ubuntu, sometimes it freezes without any reason.07:25
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intelikeythis ought to be good.....07:25
blindxI have a USB bluetooth dongle, is there a list of supported ones for ubuntu, or how can I tell if it's supported?07:25
danielchthis happened in 5.10 and 5.0407:25
Madpilotblindx, plug it in and see what happens?07:25
tonyyarussoslimz: First, install sysv-rc-conf.07:25
nubeeeyequeue, oh it looks far from complete :)07:25
No1VikingI have a partition, 30 Gb free. I would like the system to use it. What would be the best to mount to that partition?07:25
eyequeuenubee, it's a starting point for compiling, basically :)07:26
NickGarveyNo1Viking: I don't understand?07:26
NickGarveyNo1Viking: looking for a file system? or what?07:26
slimztonyyarusso: with apt-get?07:26
skpldoes anyone know where i can get the w32codecs?07:26
PuMpErNiCkEl!w32codecs07:26
ubotuit has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install07:26
FlannelKingPuMpErNiCkEl: probably.  Everyone was busy kicking norton people off.  it happened to me before it got big.  That's why I stopped using windows and started using ssh/irrsi for irc.07:26
tonyyarussoslimz: apt-get, aptitude, Synaptic, take your pick, yes.07:26
nubeeeyequeue, i'm coming from 6 years of redhat, gimme time buddy :)07:26
danielchbut the freezing issue doesn't happened in FC4 or FC5.07:26
eyequeuenubee, well welcome :)07:26
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No1VikingNickGarvey, I have /home on one partition and / on another. Now I have free space and want to mount it07:27
mDothmmmm, anyway to get flash player 8.... or are we waiting for macromedia to upgrade the linux version?07:27
slimztonyyarusso: done07:27
spikebmDot, waiting07:27
NickGarveyNo1Viking: is it formatted?07:27
spikebmDot, though ther emight be a beta07:27
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Tomcat_danielch: When you are describing your problem over >5 lines at 1 line per minute in a high-traffic channel like this, I doubt people will be able to help you. You could write longer lines maybe...? :)07:27
tonyyarussoslimz: Run it as root, 'sudo sysv-rc-conf' in a terminal.07:27
mDotspikeb thanks ill search around07:27
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PuMpErNiCkElNo1Viking: You could mount it somewhere in ~/ ... that's what I did with my second HDD, which I use to store music.07:27
MadpilotNo1Viking, you can mount it to, say, ~/Documents (or any other directory inside your home dir.07:27
mloweNickGarvey, make a file system, add a line to /etc/fstab, usual places to mount are /media, or /mnt07:27
danielchthanks, Tomcat_07:28
NickGarveymlowe: wrong nick I think ;)07:28
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javadhow can I install one program on ubuntu?07:28
eyequeueNo1Viking, my next free partition i put on /usr/local as in /usr/local/src and such, but if you don't compile a lot of things, see where your own needs lie07:28
Tomcat_javad: sudo apt-get install <progname>07:28
blindxMadpilot, nothing happened :x07:28
slimztonyyarusso: i toggle pcmcia off (S) ?07:28
NickGarvey!apt-get07:28
uboturumour has it, apt-get is http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.txt (in depth) and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto07:28
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Gentanyone alive?07:28
mloweNo1Viking,  make a file system, add a line to /etc/fstab, usual places to mount are /media, or /mnt07:28
Tomcat_Gent: About 20 people, yes. :P07:28
Madpilotblindx, so much for the easy way - I know zip about wireless, so you'll have to ask around here07:29
mloweNickGarvey, sorry07:29
spikebwell i was coughing up blood last night Gent07:29
spikebheh07:29
MadpilotGent, nope :P07:29
spikeb</monty python>07:29
eyequeue!ops07:29
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee07:29
Madpiloteyequeue, ?07:29
javadI download the pakage of cross assembler compiler it has one file which name is install07:29
eyequeue(msg me about something privately please ops)07:29
fabbionewhat is the problem???07:29
Gentanyone know if there are any plans, ever, to change the default music player in ubuntu to banshee?07:29
intelikeyjavad sudo apt-get install one program07:29
aloonwhat do you do if you have no display menu in kde peripherals ? I cant set my display adapter07:29
tonyyarussoslimz: Yes, toggle with the spacebar, but in the column labeled '2'.07:29
javadbut as I click on that file one terminal page is open07:29
slimzim getting spammed from Healot, asking me if i want to be an op in this channel to copy paste garbage code07:29
Gentor for that matter to include mono and some mono apps in general?07:29
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slimztonyyarusso: i'm toggling (2) on?07:30
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aloonthx07:30
spikebGent, mono's already available07:30
Gentspike, i know it's available, I'm talking about putting it in the default install07:30
Gentand replacing rhythmbox with banshee07:30
alooncan anyone help me with a display problem?07:31
spikebGent, a good idea in the event that banshee actually freezes less than rhythmbox...whenever that happens.07:31
naliotheyequeue: is the problem solved?07:31
GentI see it the other way around07:31
intelikeyHealot07:31
Tomcat_Gent: Is banshee a mono-app?07:31
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Gentin fact, I can't get rhthymbox to import songs for a library over 5,000 or so07:31
tonyyarussoslimz: You wanted it off, right?  So remove the X.07:31
Gentbanshee imported my friend's nearly 8,000 song library without a hitch07:31
eyequeuenalioth, yes, another of y'all is in msg with me, thank you07:31
spikebGent, oh rhythmbox is a buggy POS, yes.07:31
spikebheh07:31
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spikebGent, but it works better than banshee for me, at least on my ppc machine07:32
GentI also have major issues with rhythmbox and iPods07:32
Gentno such problems with banshee07:32
mikeo1man this sucks, my download speed is stuck at 512kbits and my upload is at 7.5mbits07:32
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slavikWE ROCK!!!07:32
spikebTom39Away, yeah it's a mono app07:32
Gentand that's across a number of systems that I've tried both on07:32
No1VikingNickGarvey, I wonder if there are any system folders to mount to besides /home07:32
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slavikanyone read the slashdot article on ubuntu?07:32
mikeo1nope07:32
spikebhaven't been to slashdot yet today07:32
mikeo1i read the summary07:32
mikeo1and a few comments07:33
Gentslavik, it's what convinced me to come and join the channel07:33
Gentheheh07:33
slavikmikeo1: you can, if you have a good ISP07:33
slavikGent: we shall brainwash you :P07:33
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Gentbrainwash me how?07:33
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slavikmikeo1: get yourself a shotgun and hold someone hostage ...07:33
mikeo1and the download is so slowwwwwwwwwwww, but upload is insanely fast... lol07:33
spikebbranwash you into gooey gnomey goodness07:33
aloonwhats the dapper drake channel?07:33
slavikmikeo1: wait, that's how you get killed07:33
spikeber...branwash?07:33
slavikaloon: #ubuntu+107:33
spikebhmm07:33
Madpilotaloon, #ubuntu+107:33
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mikeo1my upload is going to waste lol07:33
GentI already enjoy gnome07:33
mikeo1anyone use it with kde?07:34
mikeo1xgl07:34
spikebGent, me too :)07:34
Gentalthough i'd never use it on my primary desktop07:34
aloonthanks07:34
slavikmikeo1: gimmie ssh access to your box >:)07:34
intelikeymost people should be brainwashed....  they have dirty minds....07:34
intelikey:)07:34
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slavikGent: I am using it on my compaq laptop :)07:34
spikebsince gnome 1.007:34
mikeo1my gnome broke itself so edited my compiz.sh file to startkde instead of the exec gnome-session07:34
mikeo1now the compiz works, but not with gnome anymore07:34
Gentslavik, I'll put ubuntu on any system except my primary desktop07:34
WarOfAttritionCould anyone tell me something about a gimp bug when using a tablet, where the drawing window gets 'stuck'? I've seen it around the forums, but I can't find the thread again.07:34
Gentit's the #1 distro I recommend to all my friends too07:35
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mikeo1so anyone know of a way i could run a webserver off a static ip07:35
slimzok also, the other problem i have is with the gnome deskbar, i installed it, but when i try to type in it, nothing happens, i dont get a cursor07:35
spikebGent, does your primary desktop happen to run one of the famous proprietary operating systems?07:35
slavikand top of distrowatch07:35
mikeo1with no access to a router07:35
ubuntuWarOfAttrition, try, running gimp on the terminal and look for the error,07:35
aloonhow do you get 1440 X 900 display setting in kde? I have no menu called display in systemsttings07:35
skpldoes anyone know where i can get the w32codecs for dapper?07:35
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slavikWarOfAttrition: interesting bug07:35
Gentspikeb, no, unless slackware is a famou proprietary operating system07:35
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eyequeue!w32codecs07:35
ubotuwell, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install07:35
spikebGent, hehehehhe no, slackware sure isn't that.07:35
slavikaloon: ask in #kde or #kubuntu07:35
intelikeyhehhe tonyyarusso i guess that sysv thing requires default runlevels...   tty1 [root#~]  sysv-rc-conf07:35
blindxCan't get device information: Success -- Warped sense of "success" if you ask me :\07:36
eyequeueskpl, ^^07:36
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spikebGent, slackware is many things to many people, but proprietary ain't one of 'em07:36
intelikey /usr/sbin/sysv-rc-conf: opendir //etc/rc2.d : No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/sysv-rc-conf line 419.07:36
lgceyequeue, you back?07:36
eyequeuelgc, hello07:36
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Gentyeah... some things will never change with me07:36
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GentI have a few other questions some of you may be able to answer...07:36
lgceyequeue, what did you do to get kicked out of the bar?07:36
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Gentrelated to ubuntu07:36
Gentof course07:36
mikeo1and anyone know whats up with kde crashing compiz all the time?07:36
tonyyarussointelikey: No, in the Ubuntu repos it runs by default with them  'man sys-rc-conf' and you can specify others I believe.07:36
mikeo1konqueror dies anytime i click the home icon07:36
slavik*** ppracer error: Couldn't initialize video: Couldn't find matching GLX visual07:36
eyequeuelgc, the bot automatically kicks with certain strings, someone tricked me into typing one of them07:36
FlannelKingGent: just ask them! don't ask to ask, it just wastes ... um, whatever.07:37
WarOfAttritionI've tried the terminal before, it doesn't really say anything about it07:37
tonyyarussointelikey: Wait, you don't even have a 2?07:37
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intelikeytonyyarusso no.07:37
GentWell, the first I may get flamed for, but I'll shoot anyway.  Does anyone know whether or not the new Novell menu with built in beagle search (the gnome applet) is available in dapper somewhere?07:37
tonyyarussointelikey: What do you have?07:37
rlaagerHi. I've done a fair amount of searching and I can't find the answer to my problem.... The clock is wrong when I'm not connected to the network (when I am, NTP fixes it). My TZ is GMT-0500, and my time is five hours too early. For example, it's 00:36 now, and the clock would show 19:36 if I wasn't connected to the network.07:37
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eyequeuelgc, some nights "helpful" doesn't pay, heh07:37
danielchI have Ubuntu 5.10 and FC5 in my Toshiba TE2000 laptop, but Ubuntu sometimes freezes, FC5 doesn't. I have tried that booting with the option "nolapic noapic" and "acpi=off pci=noacpi", it seems better, but it still exists. However, FC4/5 works well using the default setting and the ACPI seems works. Anybody encountered that issue?07:37
intelikeytonyyarusso 01&607:37
lgceyequeue, you mean four-letter words, or something along those lines?07:37
WarOfAttrition---------- the weird thing is that it's not always the same, does it sometimes, others not. And it only started when I raised the resolution of the screen. Right now, it's not doing it, later I'm sure it will again07:37
rlaagerGent: I believe it's call deskbar.07:37
wood1700hello07:37
slavikGent: deskbar is avail in dapper, no?07:37
spikebGent, the menu, no. the applet, yes07:37
tonyyarussointelikey: Wow.  Minimal are we?07:38
mathew-efHas anybody got XP looking desktop, menus, icons in Ubuntu?07:38
eyequeuelgc, no, three letter (d c c)07:38
rlaagerGent: sudo apt-get install deskbar-applet07:38
spikebmathew-ef, thankfully, no07:38
mikeo1xp sucks07:38
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Gentthe applet is the menu?07:38
intelikeytonyyarusso 1 is multi-user 0 is single and 6 is reboot07:38
PuMpErNiCkElrlaager: Do you have a dual-boot system with windows on it?07:38
WarOfAttritionXP is ugly!07:38
mikeo1yeah07:38
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wood1700I want to disable the module for my wireless card and use ndiswrapper - how do you disable modules from loading at boot? thanks.07:38
intelikeytonyyarusso i also have no password07:38
WarOfAttritionI use the gnome Glossy P theme and Noia icons07:38
mikeo1xp gives xgl a bad name, they should jsut call xp p07:38
tonyyarussointelikey: I suppose that's all that really gets used much anyway.07:38
mikeo1for pissysucks07:38
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rlaagerPuMpErNiCkEl: Nope. /etc/default/rcS has UTC=yes set. I previously had UTC=no set. I've tried it both ways, I've tried it both ways resetting the clock in between switches.07:39
eyequeuelgc, a while back there was an exploit, the bot was programmed to deal with it, i was unaware of any of it ... no big deal, now i know07:39
blindxheh, I cannot get this bluetooth to work.07:39
lgceyequeue, you got me there. But I didn't know there was such etiquette. Is it posted somewhere?07:39
tonyyarussointelikey: Wait, you don't have a password or you don't need to enter it?  (I thought Linux required them...please educate me.)07:39
PuMpErNiCkElrlaager: odd07:39
eyequeuelgc, no, i think it is considered highly unlikely that someone will say the particular string, so no one worries about it07:39
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rlaagerPuMpErNiCkEl: "/etc/init.d/hwclock.sh restart" yields "select() to /dev/rtc to wait for clock tick timed out" if that matters07:39
slavikthe rm string?07:40
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intelikeytonyyarusso yeah... i've set up sysv for as many as 13 runlevels  and as few as 2   this system has 3.    no passwd.  all accounts are locked.07:40
eyequeueslavik, nah, a router exploit, i guess07:40
FlannelKinglgc: it's d-- send  (s/-/c/g)07:40
slavikk07:40
slavikFlannelKing: trying to get someone to use dcc?07:40
eyequeueslavik, it caused some routers to blacklist freenode07:40
intelikeytonyyarusso it is impossable to login on this box,07:40
slavikrofl07:40
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lgceyequeue, so you can go berserk saying "f*ck" and the like without being punished?07:41
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FlannelKingslavik: no. I'm informing them of the actual string.  since, there was confusion apparently.07:41
Gentok, next question, does anyone have ubuntu on their iBook?07:41
spikebno going berko07:41
spikebGent, i did when i had an ibook07:41
danielchI have Ubuntu 5.10 and FC5 in my Toshiba TE2000 laptop, but Ubuntu sometimes freezes, FC5 doesn't. I have tried that booting with the option "nolapic noapic" and "acpi=off pci=noacpi", it seems better, but it still exists. However, FC4/5 works well using the default setting and the ACPI seems works. Anybody encountered that issue?07:41
cgeGent: yes07:41
slavik*** ppracer error: Couldn't initialize video: Couldn't find matching GLX visual ... anyone know the problem? I have ati drivers installed and Direct Rendering ON.07:41
eyequeuelgc, no, that's handled via a different means :)  (humans)07:41
Gentdid you have issues with the sound?07:41
spikebi did not.07:41
lgcFlannelKing, thanks.07:41
Gentlike was the volume not high enough? and was it crackly when it was?07:41
cgeGent: Are you using dapper?07:41
OrTigaSanyone can walk me through to resolve my network problem: i cant see/access them....07:41
Gentyes, via dist-upgrade07:41
lgceyequeue, ...and their different moods!07:41
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slavikdanielch: I have to use noapic nolapic because otherwise my clock runs fast07:42
cgeGent: I believe there are known problems with iBook sound and dapper. You might want to look around.07:42
tonyyarussointelikey: So how's that work?07:42
cgeGent: But I thought the problem was no sound at all.07:42
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rlaagerPuMpErNiCkEl: Hmm, "hwclock --directisa" doesn't show an error, where "hwclock" does.07:42
danielchslavik, your laptop can get reboot?07:42
Gentcge, it was worse under breezy07:43
intelikeytonyyarusso wondered how long that would take :)      it works pretty good actually.07:43
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trunksHi- I've installed ubuntu successfully, but when it was configuring packages it locked up around 85% and i had to reboot.  Is there a command so i can resume configuring where it left off?07:43
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eyequeuetrunks, dpkg --configure -a07:43
eyequeuetrunks, sudo in front of that of course07:43
trunksok07:43
cgeGent: I would look into it, but I had to cut the wires to my iBook's speakers since there was some strange bug where every few days on coming out of suspend the laptop would freeze and make a LOUD squeal. Not too fun when one is in a library...07:43
trunksthanks07:43
blindxAnyone in here pretty good with bluetooth? I can't seem to get mine to work..07:43
PuMpErNiCkElrlaager: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Fedora/2005-04/4968.html seems to agree with you, at first glance07:43
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trunkswill that make sure it hasnt skipped anything?07:43
tonyyarussointelikey: OKay, are you saying this box is never shut down, and if it did, would be dead?07:44
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cgeGent: but I don't remember the sound ever being very good under OS X or Debian or Ubuntu.07:44
intelikeytonyyarusso i have sysv open a root and a user consoles  and start X as root and connect the user to X (two steps because i mount nosuid, thus user can't start X)07:44
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eyequeuetrunks, yes, that will "clean up" everything that is partially done, then you can rerun the original command (sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, or whatever)07:44
trunkseyequeue: cool thanks07:44
slavikdanielch: huh?07:44
OrTigaSanyone can walk me through to resolve my network problem: i cant see/access them....07:44
rlaagerPuMpErNiCkEl: I wonder if there's a way to detect that failure and fall back to using --directisa. Since I don't really know what that means, I suppose I'll just file a bug against hwclock.07:45
fyrestrtrOrTigaS: access what?07:45
intelikeytonyyarusso i reboot each day.07:45
eyequeuetrunks, no prob, and welcome to ubuntu07:45
slavikdanielch: the clock (time) runs fast withoug noapic nolapic options ...07:45
Thinjon100OK... I just finished downloading the Ubuntu AMD64 DVD... I'm hesitant now to install, since it crashed just trying to load up Live... :(07:45
OrTigaSwindow machine fyrestrtr07:45
slavikThinjon100: how did it crash?07:45
trunkseyequeue: I was turned on to it because my laptop's integrated wireless worked perfectly in the ubuntu live cd07:45
danielchslavik, you use a desktop or laptop?07:45
OrTigaSit work once but now it wont show the window machine to this box07:45
fyrestrtrOrTigaS: you are chatting from your ubuntu box?07:45
lgceyequeue, so I can go catch a few Z's, first "dpkg --get-selections>pkglist", then "apt-get update", then "apt-get dist-upgrade -d", then "apt-get dist-upgrade", and "voil!"?07:45
OrTigaSi can ping them07:45
slavikdanielch: laptop07:45
OrTigaSfyrestrtr, yes07:46
eyequeuetrunks, yeah, that's so sweet isn't it?  i was impressed by that myself, back then07:46
OrTigaSwhy?07:46
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tonyyarussointelikey: I'm lost.  How login with locked accounts?07:46
Thinjon100it got to what appeared to be a rectangular splash screen in the center of the monitor (image was horribly grabled)... mosue worked for a moment, then system completely locked up07:46
spikebheh07:46
intelikeyi don't login.07:46
intelikeyi can't login.07:46
slavikThinjon100: burn a knoppix cd just in case07:46
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intelikeyno one can login on this box.07:46
eyequeuelgc, yeah, do that -d before you catch the zs of course, then the lst one when you're all ready with a fresh cuppa coffee :)07:46
danielchI have Ubuntu 5.10 and FC5 in my Toshiba TE2000 laptop, but Ubuntu sometimes freezes, FC5 doesn't. I have tried that booting with the option "nolapic noapic" and "acpi=off pci=noacpi", it seems better, but it still exists. However, FC4/5 works well using the default setting and the ACPI seems works. Anybody encountered that issue?07:46
Gentok... last but not least... is there any way to get wmv or other support usually through binary codecs on PPC?07:46
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tonyyarussointelikey: Then what happens between boot and usage?07:47
intelikeytonyyarusso this in in an init script.07:47
sethkintelikey, well, _somebody can07:47
intelikeysu - root "openvt -fc 5 -- X :0 2>/dev/null " 2>/dev/null &07:47
intelikeysleep 2307:47
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Thinjon100I'm trying to find any distro that will work reliably with my AMD64 :(   ...and USES 64-bit07:47
eyequeuelgc, i don't know if the order matters, but i've always seen it as "apt-get -d dist-upgrade"07:47
OrTigaSanyone have an idea?07:47
tonyyarussointelikey: Oh.07:47
spikebGent, some codecs, but most of them you have to rely on open source implementations07:47
intelikeysu - $USER ". .Xsession 2>/dev/null " 2>/dev/null07:47
disco_stuhow do I install .deb files in Ubuntu????07:47
trunksGetting quite a weird error now.. "cpufreq: change failed with new_state 1 and result 0"07:47
slavikThinjon100: knoppix is a backup ... keep it around anyway07:47
UbuntuNewbiehello everyone07:47
fyrestrtrOrTigaS: okay, try this07:47
eyequeuedisco_stu, dpkg -i foo.deb07:47
intelikeythere is more to it than that tonyyarusso but that should give you the basic idea.07:48
disco_stuthx07:48
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GentI use the gnu flash implementation... and that is crap07:48
rlaagerWith dpkg, how can I find out which package owns a given file?07:48
UbuntuNewbiei have a question about mysql package07:48
spikebGent, ugh, yes it is07:48
Thinjon100Knoppix... another distro to try?  (That'll be the third in 2 days)07:48
spikebGent, there's swfdec07:48
spikebGent, which is less crap, but not much07:48
fyrestrtrOrTigaS: open up a command prompt, and type smbclient -L \\windowspcname -- if your windows computer is called box1, it would be smbclient -L \\box107:48
tonyyarussointelikey: Yeah, I know how it's possible anyway.07:48
slavikThinjon100: it is a livecd distro07:48
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UbuntuNewbiei see two package mysql-server and mysql-server-4.107:48
slavikThinjon100: I had to use it to get ubuntu working properly mid install07:48
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fyrestrtrOrTigaS: it will ask for a password, just hit enter07:48
UbuntuNewbiemysql-server has a ubuntu icon next to it07:49
Madpilot!tell UbuntuNewbie about lamp07:49
spikebGent, there's a project called gnash out there that's already further than any other OSS flash project, i'm looking forward to a stable release07:49
UbuntuNewbiewhat does the icon mean07:49
danielchanybody can browse "www.honda.ca" with firefox in Ubuntu?07:49
disco_stuit wont install - is there anybody I can PM with the message - I dont want to post it in the main board07:49
MadpilotUbuntuNewbie, the bot just sent you a pm for installing MySQL07:49
fyrestrtrUbuntuNewbie: means its part of the official ubuntu repository07:49
Madpilotdisco_stu, pastebin07:49
lgceyequeue, I thought I should do the "dpkg --get-selections" first in order to somehow safeguard the integrity of my Hoary install...07:49
eyequeuerlaager, dpkg -S path/to/file/name07:49
OrTigaSsmbclient -L localhost <-- i tried this but it say nt_logon_status_failed07:49
OrTigaSok i'll try that07:49
Thinjon100Well, I want to install a distro... and SuSE and Ubuntu were both recommended... I'm jsut wondering if anyone might have a clue as to why any time I try to install, my system hangs (has occured with both Ubuntu and SuSE's latest 64-bit releases)07:49
intelikeyyeah i ask all over freenode and efnet for a way to make init login a console user.... no one seemed to know, or care to tell me.  so i made my own way.07:49
eyequeuelgc, sure, that can't hurt07:49
intelikeytonyyarusso ^07:49
fyrestrtrOrTigaS: you have to browse a windows PC name07:49
tonyyarussoMadpilot: Could I pm you about something fishy-looking briefly?  (Or you can join my channel if you prefer.)07:50
slavikThinjon100: amd64?07:50
spikebThinjon100, hardware support for your system (at least in 64bit mode) is buggy it sounds like07:50
blindxdanielch: loading....... loaded.07:50
fyrestrtrThinjon100: what kind of processor?07:50
Madpilottonyyarusso, pm me07:50
eyequeuelgc, i just meant that dist-upgrade might need the -d switch *before* it07:50
tonyyarussointelikey: Not common, that's for sure.07:50
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Thinjon100Yes, Athlon64 3500+07:50
slavikhmm07:50
disco_stuno usr with that name07:50
Gentok, switching over to my ibook to talk, brb07:50
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spikebk07:50
danielchblindx, honda.ca seems using a flash8.07:50
fyrestrtrThinjon100: have you tried the AMD_64 livecd?07:50
spikebisn't there a flash 8.5 beta for linux yet?07:51
blindxdanielch: alright..?07:51
slavik*** ppracer error: Couldn't initialize video: Couldn't find matching GLX visual ... anyone know the problem? I have ati drivers installed and Direct Rendering ON.07:51
Thinjon100I downloaded the AMD64 DVD... it has teh isntalelr and the Live CD on it... I booted to the live CD to test... that's when it crashed07:51
lgceyequeue, I got your point with the "-d", thanks.07:51
Thinjon100hence my hesitance to attempt installation without some guidance07:51
intelikeytonyyarusso that's really why i like linux so much.    you don't have to do anything the ####-#### way... :)07:51
eyequeuelgc, good luck07:51
fyrestrtrThinjon100: what do you mean exactly when you say crashed?07:51
danielchblindx, but there is no a flash8 for Linux.07:52
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disco_stuandrew@ubuntu:~/Desktop/Andrew$ sudo dpkg -i nerolinux-2.0.0.5-x86.deb07:52
disco_stuPassword:07:52
disco_stu(Reading database ... 73858 files and directories currently installed.)07:52
disco_stuPreparing to replace nerolinux 2.0.0.5-1 (using nerolinux-2.0.0.5-x86.deb) ...07:52
disco_stuUnpacking replacement nerolinux ...07:52
disco_stuSetting up nerolinux (2.0.0.5-1) ...07:52
disco_stuOperating System: Debian GNU/Linux version testing/unstable07:52
disco_stuandrew@ubuntu:~/Desktop/Andrew$07:52
blindxdanielch: then how is it loading?07:52
blindx!tell disco_stu about pastebin07:52
Thinjon100fyrestrtr... it got to what appeared to be a rectangular splash screen (the image was garbled), the mouse worked momentarily, then the entire system locked up07:52
danielchbindx, I think we have to wait macromedia release the version.07:53
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fyrestrtrThinjon100: hrmm, okay -- have you tried booting it without the graphical installer? I forgot the exact boot line for it, but it is there.07:53
blindxdanielch: but it loads for me?07:53
gent_ok....07:53
OrTigaSfyrestrtr,  i saw something07:53
intelikeydisco_stu why are we blessed with the flood ?    no errors there ?07:53
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fyrestrtrOrTigaS: what?07:53
skplis there any way to play .wma file in linux?07:53
lgceyequeue, perhaps you already told me, but what's the link between "dpkg" and "apt-get dist-upgrade"?07:53
danielchblindx, can you see the flash on honda.ca?07:53
fyrestrtr!tell skpl about RestrictedFormats07:53
blindxdanielch, yes07:53
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OrTigaSu ask me to type the smbclient -L \\computername07:54
AngryElfisn't # a comment in a shell script?07:54
OrTigaSand it show something, i cant paste it here07:54
disco_stuCuz im sooo awesome!!!! (bless me - Im a windows usr - trying to switch)07:54
danielchblindx, what plugin are you using?07:54
skplcan someone help me? im having trouble playing a video at this url: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=635398409&n=2&Mytoken=158F6BDE-113C-CD5A-32151569C04BA5272230666307:54
lgceyequeue, maybe that's a very stupid question...(blush).07:54
eyequeuelgc, dpkg is a lower-level tool, apt-get is a little closer to the user, less brute-force ... apt-get fetches and then calls dpkg -i behind the scenes (as well as does many other things)07:54
skpli need to know what plugins or players to install so i can watch it07:54
blindxdanielch, i have no clue. :x07:54
fyrestrtrOrTigaS: can you see the shares on your windows machine?07:55
lgceyequeue, that's an excellent answer!07:55
Thinjon100I'll try running the installer and see if I get different results installing than running LiveCD...   are there perhaps some issues with ym video card? (every time I've had an installation crash it was in a GUI)... GeForce 7800GT PCI-E07:55
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eyequeuelgc, no, it's a very good question, not one most new users would think of until much later07:55
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OrTigaSyes fyrestrtr07:55
intelikeytalk about a place for "http://tinyurl.com"07:55
danielchblindx, can you look at your /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins ?07:55
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skplintelikey, that's what xchat is for07:55
jack-dpkg without apt would be a real pita07:56
blindxdanielch, only thing in there is libjavaplugin_oji.so07:56
jack-for the normal user, dpkg is useful very rarely07:56
fyrestrtrOrTigaS: okay this means, you and your Windows machine can browse each other (there are no problems with the connection). What are you trying to do? Copy files from your Windows machine?07:56
intelikeyskpl seeing that i don't use it, i missed the connection ?07:56
disco_stuWhat is a repositiory?07:56
Thinjon100ok... going to attempt installation again... have a feeling I'll be back soon, though :(07:56
intelikey!repos07:57
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource07:57
skplintelikey, url grabber07:57
fyrestrtrdisco_stu: a collection of programs that is given a common name.07:57
lgceyequeue, you playing ball with me? :)07:57
UbuntuNewbiedo i need to worry about making sure i have the latest firefox version07:57
eyequeuedisco_stu, a collection of .deb files, with special "helper" files as well07:57
intelikeyskpl it auto tiny those things ?07:57
eyequeueheh07:57
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danielchblindx, could you "find / -name libflashplayer.so -print" ?07:57
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OrTigaSfyrestrtr,  browse thru the places--> network server--=> then click the window network07:57
skplintelikey, it do07:57
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intelikeykewL07:57
disco_stuWhy don't synaptic packages add to the app'z menu?07:58
OrTigaSi cant other windows box07:58
Gent_hrm... I suppose one more question07:58
disco_stuHow do I do that if they dont?07:58
nubeeeyequeue, any hints on dh_make and naming cvs versions?07:58
Gent_is there any plan to replace the ugly ass battery icon on notebooks?07:58
Gcastinany body know if there's new family guy epidodes comming?07:58
tonyyarussoskpl: As in registering with the tinyURL server so it works for all, or internally?07:58
eyequeuedisco_stu, you may need to run "ki;;a;; gnome-panel" or relogin before you see them in the menus07:58
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tim_what is the best way to learn linux07:58
skpltonyyarusso, i have no idea, i just know you can click it and it opens up in your browser07:58
skplno need for tinyurl07:58
Gent_tim_ use it07:58
tonyyarussoskpl: Ah, okay.07:59
skplunless you believe in cyberspace polution07:59
Madpilottim_, break it then fix it :P (joking, mostly...)07:59
eyequeuenubee, let me think of a good place to refer you, i usually look up examples when i need to do that07:59
Gent_I've been using linux far too long07:59
blindxdanielch, /home/blind/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so07:59
eyequeuenubee, actually, here's a command i'd use :))07:59
Gent_:(07:59
danielchthanks, blindx07:59
skplcan someone tell me how to convert .wma to .mp3 in ubuntu?07:59
nubeeeyequeue, it's sweet ijust mv'd the alsa-driver dir to alsadrivercvs.18.04.2006 :)08:00
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eyequeuenubee, dpkg -l | grep cvs | less ... see what format other maintainers use, then try to conform to it, they probably have good practice08:00
danielchblindx, can you tell what size "libflashplayer.so" is?08:00
nubeeah08:00
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tonyyarussotim_: Check out any of the numerous tutorials online, wander the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ , sit back and watch here, along with asking your own questions when they come up, and honestly, I broke stuff and fixed it too ;)08:00
bccis there a way to trace what commands some process is calling?08:00
nubeeeyequeue, well i'm not planning on distributing this...08:00
eyequeuenubee, packagename_ver*.deb though08:00
tim_thank you08:00
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emshi08:01
tonyyarussotim_: Generally, if you just start using it, you will learn the things that are useful to you over time out of necessity.08:01
eyequeuenubee, if you want cvs as part of the name, put it before the _08:01
blindxdanielch, 2 megs08:01
emswho is pasting crap?08:01
emsI want to kick his ass08:01
iceman!sources08:01
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource08:01
danielchblindx, 2154768?08:01
skplcan someone tell me how to convert .wma to .mp3 in ubuntu?08:01
Madpilotems, did you get pm'd with some "to be an op in #ubuntu" garbage?08:01
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rlaagerskpl: You'd lose quality in that transformation.08:02
tonyyarussoskpl: Probably with mencoder with w32codecs, but I haven't done it myself.08:02
skpltheb bleh08:02
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blindxi don't know, danielch.. i just right clicked. I don't know how to do it via console.08:02
emsskpl: I can tell you how in Plan 908:02
eyequeuenubee, you went from new to building debs in one night, i'm impressed :)08:02
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nubeedpkg-deb: building package `alsa.driver' in `../alsa.driver_cvs.18.04.2006_i386.deb w00t!08:02
emsMadpilot: no08:02
lgceyequeue, I'm on it: "-d dist-upgrade". Can I go to bed now?08:02
Madpilotems, um, so why the "who is pasting cr*p?" comment?08:02
eyequeuelgc, yes, and i think i'll, um, do the same here, heh08:03
lgceyequeue, where are you?08:03
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danielchblindx, just run "ls -l libflashplayer.so" in console.08:03
blindx209684408:03
eyequeuelgc, btw, if you like, you can even run the other command without the -d while totally offline, later :)08:03
emsMadpilot: someone was talking about it08:04
eyequeuelgc, ny.us here, and you?08:04
blindxDaniel, do you want it? :P I'm sure I could DCC it to you08:04
danielchblindx, thanks, I'll try it.08:04
mlowewhat is program that will restart process when it exits ?08:04
lgceyequeue, I'm in Mexico City, MX.08:04
Gent_yay Zapatistas!08:05
Gent_hehe08:05
slavikmlowe: windows?08:05
danielchblindx, thanks, I mean that I will copy libflashplayer.so to .mozilla.08:05
kefQuestion:  I've turned my sensitivity in the gnome preferences down to 0, but my mouse sensitivity is still wayyyy too high.  how can i make it lower?  I am using a laptop touchpad08:05
lgcGent_, no sh*t!08:05
slavikkef: you arelooking for accelaration, not sensitivity :)08:06
OrTigaShi! i want to browse folder in windows machine to thix ubuntu box, but i cant see them in Places--->NetworkServers---08:06
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kefslavik, i've turned both to 0 and its still way too high on the laptop08:06
eyequeuelgc, ah, a little bit later there than here, but ... buenos noches08:07
slavikhmm, don't move your finger too fast?08:07
slavikkef: I dunno what to say08:07
kefslavik, nah i've used windows on this laptop for years and im doing it the same way08:07
Gent_dapper on the iBook was horrid with the touchpad08:07
kefslavik, theres no command for it?08:07
spikebzapatistas in mexico city? woo08:07
Gent_even if you changed the settings in gnome it wouldn't do anything for the actual touchpad settings08:07
slavikkef: no ...08:07
kefHummm..08:07
lgceyequeue, it's the other way around! It's 1 a.m. now here!08:08
eyequeuelgc, ah, and 2 here08:08
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nubeeeyequeue, well hell, dpkg is a little easier to get the head around than rpm :)08:08
danielchblindx, I can see the homepage of honda.ca now, but can you see the "Automative"?08:09
eyequeuenubee, yes, and deb will differ from rpm, but hey, we like it better :)08:09
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tonyyarussokef: I think Dapper has better touchpad configuration if memory from what I've heard serves right.  I don't know how to change that on mine either.08:10
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lgceyequeue, yup! Anyway, it's time to hit the pillow! I thank you very much for your help in the hope of a future "rendez-vous" on the same channel...08:10
eyequeuelgc, take care, see you manana :)08:10
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blindxdanielch, CLICK automotive, or see it?08:10
spoonanyone in here installed Cinelerra "video editing software" in ubuntu 5.1008:10
danielchCan anybody see the "www.honda.ca" -> Automative page?08:11
lgceyequeue, hasta luego y gracias.08:11
blindxdanielch, it looks like it's trying to load.08:11
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slavikintelikey: did you try to update urpmi?08:11
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danielchblindx, it shows we have to update the flash version.08:11
keftonyyarusso, whats Dapper?08:12
Marineboy!partition08:12
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Marineboy08:12
slavik!dapper08:12
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)08:12
blindxDoesn't tell me that, danielch08:12
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intelikeyslavik no i don't need to.08:12
intelikeydanielch    Honda developed the FCX fuel08:12
intelikey Civic Sedan, Civic Si Coupe08:12
tonyyarussodanielch: Apparently not.08:12
Gent_they should have released it June 6th08:12
intelikeyyep i see it.08:12
Gent_restart required, brb08:13
OrTigaSsmbclient -L \\windowPCname  and it works08:13
danielchintelikey, what does FCX fuel mean?08:13
OrTigaSbut i cant see them in "Places-NetworkServers"08:13
slavikintelikey: use urpmi to update itself... >:)08:13
OrTigaSany idea why08:13
intelikeydanielch it's just a cp/paste from that page...08:13
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danielchintelikey, you can see it?08:14
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danielchintelikey, what is your flash plugin version?08:15
intelikeyHonda developed the FCX fuel cell vehicle as an integral way to reduce our global dependence on oil. Propelled by electricity that is generated by a hydrogen-oxygen chemical reaction, the FCX fuel cell.....08:15
skpldoes anyone here use soundconverter?08:15
intelikeydanielch i don't do flash08:15
danielchintelikey, I just config firefox.08:16
kefnow my mouse has stopped moving entirely.  @_@08:16
intelikeydanielch i don't do ff either.08:16
danielchintelikey, sorry08:17
intelikeyi opened that page in links2 -g08:17
danielchintelikey, what do you do for work?08:17
danielchsysadmin?08:17
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danielchI have Ubuntu 5.10 and FC5 in my Toshiba TE2000 laptop, but Ubuntu sometimes freezes, FC5 doesn't. I have tried that booting with the option "nolapic noapic" and "acpi=off pci=noacpi", it seems better, but it still exists. However, FC4/5 works well using the default setting and the ACPI seems works. Anybody encountered that issue?08:17
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intelikeydanielch i'm not a professional tech.   no certs.08:18
danielchintelikey, links2 is cool, it can interpret frame.08:19
slavikintelikey: paper cert?08:19
intelikeyno training at all.   in fact a high school drop out....08:19
UbuntuNewbiecan some1 please explain difference between localhost and hostname08:19
intelikeydanielch yes it does graphics.08:19
danielchintelikey, many people like you.08:19
tonyyarussodanielch: Try searching the bugs on launchpad.net under Ubuntu, and if you don't find anything similar, report it.08:19
intelikeyreally ?08:19
danielchtonyyarusso, I have tried for a long time, but I can't get.08:20
tonyyarussodanielch: Can't get what?08:20
intelikeyit's probably flash8  that the page is using....   i dont like flash.08:20
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danielchtonyyarusso, can't get the answer.08:21
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tonyyarussodanielch: Ah.  Was it at least confirmed by anyone?08:21
slaterockHelp for the love of god!08:21
UbuntuNewbieCan someone please tell me the difference between localhost and hostname08:21
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slaterocki can not install fglrx!08:21
slaterocki've gone through about every forum topic on it08:22
icemangod i need a linux god ... how to get a linux distro, up to dat that will run from umsdos ... :(08:22
slaterockand can't figure it out08:22
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slavikslaterock: ati? or nvidia?08:22
slaterockati08:22
danielchtonyyarusso, I don't think so, it seems that issue is only for me ;)08:22
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slavikslaterock: you're in luck08:22
intelikeyUbuntuNewbie localhost is your box.   hostname is an app that can set or get the name of localhost.08:22
slaterock:)08:22
tonyyarussoslaterock: How 'bout the wiki?08:22
slaterocki like luck08:22
slavikslaterock: dl the driver from ati's site08:22
tonyyarussodanielch: Darn.08:23
slaterockthe whole installer?08:23
farouswas wondering where i can download the latest mplayer mozilla-plugin from running breezy here. Is there a development site for this package?08:23
danielchtonyyarusso, what do you mean by the term of Darn?08:23
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UbuntuNewbieim setting password for MySQL so i have to set two password for root for the localhost and hostname08:24
tonyyarussodanielch: Sounds like you're sort of out of luck for the time being.08:24
slavik!ops08:24
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee08:24
tonyyarussostgraber: Knock it off.08:24
intelikeygood by student.08:24
tonyyarussostgraber: Sorry!08:24
brownie17can anyone tell me how i can automatically run a command when the computer starts up?08:24
fogoshi... i have a trouble with the sound. the sound works only throw the jack headphones, no by the speakers, its a intel hd on inspiron 640008:24
Madpilottoo late - he already left... :P08:24
slaterockslavik?08:24
fabbioneoh god08:24
slavikslaterock: got the file?08:24
fabbionecan somebody please remove my name from the ops list for this channel?08:24
slaterocki need the .run file, correct?08:24
slavikyes08:25
Madpilotfabbione, yeah - you not an op anymore?08:25
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stjepanhi08:25
intelikeybrownie17 put the cammand in an init script.    preferably  /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh08:25
stjepanhow to downgrade from dapper to breezy?08:25
slavikslaterock: once downloaded, make it executable08:25
fabbioneMadpilot: yes i am an op, but people overabuse that thingy and it's damn distracting08:25
slavikstjepan: clean install, I think08:25
slaterockchmod something, right?08:25
slavikslaterock: yes08:25
Madpilotfabbione, np - I'll edit the bot's entry08:25
slavikslaterock: cdmod +x at-file-name.run08:25
fabbioneMadpilot: thanks08:26
slaterockslavik, if you can get this working for me, i will be so happy08:26
alex__slavik, aren't you a russian-speaking?08:26
slavikalex__: very :)08:26
slaterockit's the only thing standing in my way from believing that ubuntu is king08:26
slavikslaterock: made it executable?08:26
alex__ochen' rad08:26
slavikheh08:26
slaterocksorry, still downloading08:26
alex__^))08:26
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brownie17intelikey, is that just a file i can edit in gedit?08:27
slavikI'd sit in #ubuntu-ru ... but I don't like the russians who think their english is better than mine08:27
slavikfrom rusnet tried08:27
intelikeybrownie17 yes... as root08:27
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slaviknow I know why americans want to nuke russian08:27
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slavikanyway08:27
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alex__lol08:27
stjepanslavik: no, I upgraded from hoary to breezy and then to dapper.... now I want breezy back08:27
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slaterocki likes dapper08:27
intelikeyslavik ......   we don't...08:28
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slavikintelikey: who is 'we'?08:28
jack-apt-get dist-downgrade08:28
jack-;p08:28
slaterocklol08:28
slaterockthey need an apt-get repair computer08:28
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pI05 how to change encoding in ubuntu to latin2?08:28
slavikslaterock: are you on dapper atm?08:28
slaterockslav: yeah08:28
slavikintelikey: shut up you democratic noballs hippy ...08:29
slavikNUKE THEM!!!08:29
brownie17intelikey, if i just put it in the file before the word exit, will it run it? do i need to use sudo in there? or does the whole script run as root?08:29
slavikslaterock: I got it running on breezy, so don't expect much08:29
slavikslaterock: what module is xserver using now?08:29
intelikeyslavik hehhe i'm not a democrat i'll have you to know.08:29
slaterock.....?08:29
slaterockwhat modulel...08:29
slaterockid on't know.08:29
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slavikslaterock: in terminal, do "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.config"08:30
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intelikeybrownie17 yes it will run it. and no init is super-root08:30
slavikif it gives you about not finding a file, browse to it through nautilus08:30
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alexnicolCan any one help me with Qt?08:30
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pI05 how to change encoding in ubuntu to latin2?08:30
slavikalex___: you live in brooklyn?08:30
alexnicolchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!08:30
slaterockk, loaded it08:30
alex___Okay, i'm trying to play a dvd and apparently its encrypted, i have the DeCSS crap but that seems very complicated, is there a certain player that will just view this DVD for me?08:31
slavikahh, alexnicol you need the dev libraries08:31
slaterockwhat am i looking for here?08:31
alexnicolI get that error message when trying to install kooling.  But I have Qt Version 4 installed, and I can load it to the desktop without issues08:31
HoxzerSomebody here knows how to configure TS to use ALsa?08:31
slavikopen sunaptic and search for libqt08:31
slaterockme or alex?08:31
brownie17intelikey, i was putting in the command "hdparm -d1 hdc" because for some reason dma would not boot on08:31
intelikeypl05  sudo dpkg-reconfigure locale   iirc08:31
slavikslaterock: alex08:31
slavikslaterock: scroll to bottom of the file08:31
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intelikeybrownie17 that should work.08:31
slavikthen go above the section with resolutions and bit depths08:32
pI05i am trying to compile latex document and i get a few problems with encoding, where can i check what my default encoding is?08:32
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slaterockk08:32
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slavikslaterock: look at the section saying something about "Device"08:32
slavikthere will be a line with the word Driver08:32
slaterockyeah, driver says "fglrx"08:32
slavikI see08:32
slavikgo to terminal and do "glxinfo | grep direct"08:32
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intelikeypI05 /etc/locale*08:33
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brownie17intelikey, thanks for the help, i'll go test it now. i could turn DMA on using that command, but the guide ubotu gave me to turn DMA on at boot time didn't work. it involved adding something the the hdparm script.08:33
slavikslaterock: that will print 1 line, tell me what it says08:33
slaterockmesa glx  Indierect08:33
slavikhmm08:33
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|lostbyte|Where is the network boot script ?08:33
slavikhold on08:33
slaterockOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect08:33
slaterockthat's the whole line08:33
TraceGreenHello, Does kernel 2.6.11 need modprobe.conf?08:33
|lostbyte|/etc/network/interfaces ?08:33
intelikey|lostbyte| /etc/init.d/08:34
slaterockand above it, says no direct rendering08:34
slavikhmm08:34
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TraceGreenor, the older version of modprobe use modprobe.conf but the newer one don't use it?08:34
cgrayhi, is it possible to install ubuntu with / on a usb disk?08:34
pI05intelikey: is it one file?08:34
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slavikgimmie a sec08:34
slaterockk08:34
intelikey|lostbyte| boot script ?   init script ?     /etc/init.d/network*08:34
intelikeypI05 one of the three... hehhe  cat /etc/locale*08:35
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pI05intelikey: but how to set default encoding there?08:36
slavikalexnicol: what am I helping you with again?08:36
alexnicollol - Qt >=3.008:36
slavikoh, right08:36
slavikalexnicol: what's the error again?08:36
alexnicolYou said to install the headers.  I installed the following:08:36
|lostbyte|intelikey: I want to know, which file at boot tell's my interfaces to come up ?08:36
slavikslaterock: run the ati file and select "create distribution specific package" or w/e it is08:37
slavikslaterock: the one that is NOT install08:37
slaterockk08:37
slavikslaterock: it will produce a .dep file08:37
intelikeypI05 it seems to be the last line that  cat /etc/locale*   gives....  but i told you   sudo dpkg-reconfigure locale   is the correct way to set that.08:37
pI05intelikey: great thnx08:38
intelikey|lostbyte| /etc/init.d/networking08:38
alexnicolcompat-headers: Headers: il8n: mt: mt-ibase: mt-SQL: mt-PSQL: mt-sqlite and libqt4-core08:38
slavikslaterock: in terminal do "dpkg -i file-generated-by-ati.dep"08:38
alexnicolchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!08:38
emsyay Plan 908:38
alexnicolis the error08:38
slavikalexnicol: did you install libqt?08:38
dooglus|lostbyte|: look for the 'auto' line in /etc/network/interfaces08:38
slaterockweird, it couln't run the file08:38
slaterocksaid08:38
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slaterockdetected version of X does not have a matching 'x700' directory08:39
skplcan someone tell me why i am unable to connect to dalnet servers?08:39
slavikhmm08:39
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tanlaanyo all08:39
slaterocki run the file this way, right?08:40
slavikskpl: dalnet == dalsplit08:40
slaterock./ati-file08:40
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slavikslaterock: yes ... or double click it :)08:40
tanlaani need to know how to play mp3's on ubuntu without installing easy ubuntu08:40
intelikeyskpl unless someone on your ip got a k line   idk08:40
pI05intelikey: which packets do i have to install to have locale?08:40
tanlaancause everytime i install it it fucks up my comp08:40
alexnicolslavik: The only libqt offered was libqt-perl08:40
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dooglus!mp308:40
ubotump3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:40
Laneynp:08:40
cgrayso does anyone know if it's possible to get the system working with / on a usb disk?08:40
slavikalexnicol: install libqt3-mt08:41
alexnicolalready installed08:41
slavikand nothing?08:41
alexnicolsame error08:41
slavikwait, you are compiling something?08:41
alexnicolkooling08:41
slaterockis a multi-threaded processor considered .x64?08:41
slaterockor is it still 32 bit?08:41
intelikeypI05 sorry there is an s on the end of that.08:41
intelikeylocales08:42
intelikeymy bad.08:42
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slavikslaterock: depends on what multi-threaded is meant by08:42
spikebmultithread has nothing to do with 32/64 bitness, i wouldn't think08:42
skplintelikey, no, the server says i have a trojan though i have since scanned twice for rootkit and re-installed ubuntu08:42
slavikalexnicol: you are on kubuntu?08:42
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slaterockk08:42
dooglusis there some way I can find out the connection speed of my eth1 interface?08:42
pwnedI couldn't find the exact kernel version for dapperdrake from online documentation08:42
skplintelikey, do you think someone on my ip has a trojan?08:42
pwned6th flight08:42
alexnicoltechnically no, its ubuntu with the KDE installed instead of Gnome08:42
dooglus(like in windows, where it tells me "connected at 1000000 bps"08:42
slavikslaterock: multi-threaded can mean multi-core08:42
jack-danglus: ifconfig08:42
alexnicolit still says ubuntu when I boot up08:43
dooglusjack-: what flags?08:43
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slavikalexnicol: hmm ...08:43
jack-no flags08:43
tanlaanthx08:43
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slavikdoes kubuntu use the same repos as ubuntu?08:43
jack-ifconfig, or ifconfig eth008:43
dooglusjack-: that doesn't give the speed for me08:43
alexnicolI'm using the ubuntu repos08:43
|lostbyte|dooglus: Nope ! no auto line there, but i think the card gets its values from that file.08:43
jack-media: autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>) status: active08:43
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jack-looks like a speed indication, to me08:44
|lostbyte|dooglus: wait only one auto line.. goes "auto lo"08:44
slavikalexnicol: what I am thinking is if there is a repo version, to install it so that all dependancies get installed and then you can compile the stuff ...08:44
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intelikeyskpl  i know nothing about that.   but a trojan would probably be in your /home/dir  and reinstalling ubuntu without changing /home would do nothing to clean that.08:44
pwnedand the question is, what's the kernel which 6.04 comes with?08:44
dooglus|lostbyte|: see mine here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1248608:44
dooglus|lostbyte|: add an 'auto' line like mine08:44
dooglusjack-: which line are you talking about?08:44
alexnicolso edit sources list to show kubuntu?08:44
dooglusjack-: I don't see any 'media' line08:45
jack-oh08:45
skplintelikey, even if i deleted the previous partitions?08:45
slavikalexnicol: I dunno if kubuntu has diffrepos08:45
skplintelikey, im confident that rkhunter would have found something if i had it08:45
jack-ok then, ifconfig on darwin seems to be slightly different08:45
jack-my bad08:45
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intelikeyskpl k.08:45
|lostbyte|dooglus: Oh ! ok done..08:45
spikebheh everything on darwin is slightly different08:46
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dooglusjack-: I see this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1248708:46
doogluswhat's darwin?08:46
jack-another dist08:47
jack-the core of mac os x, actually08:47
slavikyes08:47
|lostbyte|dooglus: So only /etc/network/ and /etc/rc.d/network gets the boot concernig my network. IS there another file/folder i should worry about ?08:47
slavikdarwin =derivative of FreeBSD, no?08:47
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jack-kind of, yeah08:47
josh__where is the xfree source located in ubuntu?08:47
intelikeyand skpl yes probably someone on your b class has caused problems on efnet.  happens to me sometimes.   i go to a network and find that i'm banned from a place i've never even been before.08:47
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dooglusI don't get it - why are you answering questions about ubuntu in #ubuntu with answers which only work on darwin?08:47
slavikjosh__: the repos?08:47
slavikjosh__: use xorg ...08:48
jack-well, because ifconfig is ifconfig ;) sorry08:48
jack-my bad08:48
josh__slavik, sorry, fairly new to linux08:48
jack-except from my media lines, the output is almost exactly the same08:48
dooglus|lostbyte|: don't edit /etc/rc*/* at all; just edit the file I told you about.  or use the GNOME config tool - that'll edit it for you08:48
jack-so dont slap me too much08:48
slavikjosh__: reason for the question is because I do not know myself08:48
josh__slavik, oh08:48
intelikeyjosh__ sources access through repos.08:48
intelikey!repos08:48
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource08:48
StrayhikariHello, really new user with most likely a stupid question08:49
StrayhikariDoes aptget have a system wide update command?08:49
slavikStrayhikari: there are not stupid questions, only stupid people08:49
skplintelikey, what is a ba class08:49
slavikStrayhikari: that is a good question and yes08:49
spikebStrayhikari, apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade08:49
spikebStrayhikari, and that's one of the more intelligent questions we've seen here tonight heh08:49
Strayhikariok cool08:49
slavikDO NOT DO dist-upgrade08:49
pwnedshould there be any problem using aptitude ?08:49
slavikStrayhikari: do update then upgrade08:50
StrayhikariIt upgrades to testing if you do that?08:50
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hyphenatedStrayhikari: remember to do 'sudo apt-get update' before 'sudo apt-get upgrade' ;-)08:50
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Strayhikariok08:50
George007!winex08:50
ubotuGeorge007: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:50
spikebdist-upgrade is the only way to get everything upgraded.08:50
|lostbyte|dooglus: ok ! thanks.. i got to search for info on that file. tx08:50
StrayhikariThanks for the help guys08:50
intelikeyskpl major net block ?   kinda the root of your ip that your isp provides to you and all it's other customers.08:50
slavikStrayhikari: dist-upgrade, yes, will upgrade ... but dist-upgrade doesn't care about breaking dependencies08:50
dooglusslavik: why wouldn't you dist-upgrade?08:50
slavikdooglus: because it is potentially dangerous08:50
alex__slavik, do you have any idea why the #ubuntu-ru channel doesn't work?08:50
StrayhikariYikes, and I'm not good enough to fix dependencies08:50
alex__i mean the one on freenode08:51
spikebslavik, if the stable distro has breaking deps, it isn't stable.08:51
dooglusslavik: dist-upgrade won't break dependencies will it?08:51
spikebnot on stable, unless these guys screw up.08:51
hyphenateddooglus: not in my experience08:51
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slavikdooglus: it can and won't care08:51
dooglusslavik: it might want to remove hundreds of packages because of dependencies, but it won't let you have broken dependencies08:51
slaterockslav08:51
slavikdist-upgrade is more bleeding edge than upgrade08:51
slaterockdo i want to create a ubuntu package?08:51
slavikdooglus: that is not very ncie either08:52
slaterockit says i can create:08:52
spikebbleeding edge? it's at LEAST 6 years old08:52
spikeb:P08:52
slavikslaterock: yes08:52
slavikspikeb: :P08:52
slaterockk08:52
skplintelikey, i guess that makes sense08:52
dooglusI've found that if I don't use dist-upgrade, I never get any new packages08:52
slavikslaterock: use the names08:52
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slavikdooglus: doyou do update first?08:52
intelikeyskpl@ppp-70-244-49-72.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net  <--- skpl you.   *.hstntx.swbell.net   b class   i think...  some one that knows more about "ip"  and "it"  could correct.08:52
dooglusof course08:52
slavikk08:52
slavikinteresting08:52
dooglusI get new versions of existing packages with upgrade, but not new packages08:52
slaterocki'm building a ubuntu dapper package08:53
spikebcool slaterock08:53
slaterocklol08:53
slavikyes08:53
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slavikit will create a dep file08:53
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slaterockk08:53
slavikinstall it with dpkg -i then restart xserver08:53
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oddiehello all08:54
slaterockwhich one?08:54
slaterockit made like 5 different debs08:54
slavikhmm, pm me the names08:54
alexnicolslavik - kubuntu is still on the ubuntu repos08:55
slavikhmm08:55
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slavikalexnicol: did you install kubuntu-desktop?08:55
slavik,  ?08:55
spikebapt-get install buggy crap would attempt to install windows08:55
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slavikspikeb: I aliased dog to cat :)08:56
hyphenatedsomeone told me about apt-get moo the other week :-)08:56
icemanw t heck cant get streamtuner to open xmms ? help ?08:56
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spikebhaha slavik08:56
BoyDubaiwhy does pressing Ctrl+Alt+Backspace kills the system?08:56
spikebslavik, a long time ago i had tar, feather and runouttatown08:56
hyphenatedBoyDubai: it kills your graphical interface. it's supposed to08:56
slaterockslavik, you get those?08:56
slavikBoyDubai: it doesn't, it only shuts down xserver (GUI)08:56
hyphenatedit shouldn't kill the entire system, and the login screen should reappear08:57
slavikslaterock: are you registered?08:57
slaterockno08:57
BoyDubaiis there a way of disabling it?08:57
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slavikslaterock: that's why08:57
hyphenatedBoyDubai: yes08:57
slavikBoyDubai: no08:57
spikebyeah there is08:57
slavikthere is?08:57
spikebbut i don't know how offhand08:57
spikebslavik, yeah08:57
hyphenatedBoyDubai: it requires editing the xorg.conf file by hand though08:57
slaterockxorg-driver-fglrx-dev_8.24.8-1_i386.deb08:57
slaterock[01:55]  slaterock: xorg-driver-fglrx-_8.24.8-1_i386.deb08:57
slaterock[01:55]  slaterock: fglrx-sources_8.24.8-1_i386.deb08:57
slaterock[01:56]  slaterock: fglrx-kernel-source_8.24.8-1_i386.deb08:57
slaterock[01:56]  slaterock: and then a fglrx-control.deb as well08:57
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alexnicolslavick: Yes - I think so, either that or Kubuntu-Core08:57
slavikslaterock: don't paste text here, use pastebin08:57
BoyDubaiok08:57
BoyDubaithanks!08:57
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slaterocksorry:(08:57
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slavikdo the driver one second in the list08:58
spikebBoyDubai, it might even say in the file how to do it08:58
intelikeyskpl see a really good script kiddy or a third rate hacker, hijacks an ip and starts malicious crap on some network; efnet for example,  and the ops kick/ban that user but they come right back with another ip from the same server they just hacked into.  so the k line has to get the b class to stop all connection from that part of the network.   that sends them either to a new network of to hack a new server and hijack anothe08:58
slavikor heck, list all of them :)08:58
intelikeybecuae your ip was used for that....08:58
alex__ 08:58
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ecenhello, i recently installed windows and it overwrote the mbr, so now i can only access ubuntu through floppy grub boot disk. now my idea is to make a boot.bin to copy to the windows loader... i have tried dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/media/mydisk/boot.bin bs=512 count=1 but when i use it on the windows boot it just displays a frozen GRUB. any ideas?08:58
alex__   -  08:58
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alex__:(08:58
skplintelikey, however i did not recieve a k-line notice, it was a trojan horse warning08:59
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slaterocki need to install all of them?08:59
slavikalex, that isn't urf :(08:59
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slavikslaterock: well, not all of them, but you can remove them later08:59
dooglusBoyDubai: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf; find the ServerLayout section; add a line saying:    Option "DontZap" "true"08:59
slavikslaterock: they will be listed with dpkg and you will be able to remove them later :)08:59
BoyDubaiok thanks08:59
slaterockk09:00
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slavikdooglus: will ctrl+alt+backspace restart xserver then?09:00
intelikeyskpl so i used that for an example...  just answering eariler questions...  ;/     already told you all i know about horse pucky.09:00
alex__slavik, i noticed you logged on there and typed "privet"09:00
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skpli like horse pucky09:00
skplit is sticky and green09:00
reg_how can i safely install windows (on another partition) on a system w/ ubuntu already installed?09:00
intelikeyit smells bad.09:00
hyphenatedslavik: no, it kills the X server. the login manager notices and does the restart09:00
skplbut it chats well09:00
ecenanyone?09:00
dooglusBoyDubai: I just found it at http://jfgi.us/ - can't promise it'll work09:00
alex__but everytime i try to type there it keeps saying "No channel joined. Try /join #<channel>"09:00
hyphenatedslavik: if you started it via 'startx', it'd take you back to your shell09:00
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sfarecen:  looked at this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows ?09:01
BoyDubaithanks09:01
dooglusslavik: it will disable the sequence I think09:01
slaterockalright, installed all of 'em09:01
UbuntuNewbiei noticed there is a user 'debian-sys-maint' on my MySQL server is this user necessary09:01
slavikhyphenated: atm, I have autologin through gdm ...09:01
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alex__and God be my witness i googles all the web down and couldn't find what channel to join ;(09:01
spikebi would think so, sounds like a maintenence bot09:01
slavikhyphenated: if I do that seq, I get to the terminal09:01
intelikeyecen sudo grub-install /dev/hda    (assuming hd)09:01
The-MoonCan anyone tell me how i can set the Bit Depth of Gnome?09:01
UbuntuNewbieor should i remove it09:01
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sfaralex__: kak dela? :D09:02
dooglusslavik: I find that around 50% of the time ctrl-alt-backspace will restart X, and the other 50% it will drop me to a VC09:02
alex__sfar: cool09:02
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slavikdooglus: it used to restart it, but now it kills it09:02
slaterockslavik, what do i do after i install the packages?09:02
hyphenatedslavik: my point was it's not a shortcut for 'restart'09:02
slavikslaterock: restart xserver :)09:02
slavikI see09:03
intelikeyspikeb uses autologin   hehhe.   prolly only on x09:03
The-Moonanyone?09:03
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spikebintelikey, yeah only for my gnome session09:03
alex__sfar: v icq postuchis, pozhaluysta, 747482609:03
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slavikI'll brb09:03
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slaterockk09:03
hyphenatedThe-Moon: GNOME just uses whatever your X server setting is. you have to configure the X server09:03
slaterockxserver restarted09:04
The-Moonhow do i set what x uses?09:04
intelikeyspikeb you missed my rant about that eariler to tonyyarusso.   i can't login on this box  it has to be autologin  all passwds are locked.... :)09:04
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slaterockgah09:04
slaterocki don't get it09:04
spikebintelikey, that sucks09:04
slaterockglxinfo still shows mesa glx09:04
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slaterocksob09:04
=== intelikey CLI kinda guy....
slavikback09:05
slavikslaterock: nothing?09:05
slaterocknope09:05
ecensfar, intelikey: i dont want to recover grub, i want to be able to start it from windows nt loader by creating a boot image that loads from windows09:05
slavikhmm09:05
slaterockthis is the most frustrating thing i've ever dealt with on a computer09:05
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slavikslaterock: open synaptic09:05
mDotfunny, amarok has my entire hip hop collection but refuses to randomly play anything but tracks with jay z on it09:05
spikebslaterock, it only gets worse09:05
spikebmDot, i smell bias!09:05
slaterocklol09:05
sfarecen, okay. why?09:05
ecenunfortunately, i cannot make it work09:06
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slaterockwhat am i looking for in synaptic?09:06
intelikeyecen sudo grub-install /dev/hda2 (assumes ubuntu on 2)09:06
Terminusecen: restore grub, get a copy of the mbr, and then have windows overwrite the mbr again? :)09:06
mDotspikeb, random as long as artist =*jayz*09:06
slavikdid it give you any errors?09:06
slaterockno09:06
slaterocksynaptic package manager, right?09:06
slavikyes09:06
ecensfar: because it is easier to maintain a boot image and not rewriting the mbr everytime09:06
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intelikeyecen then make win load partition 209:06
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intelikeyi think that's what you want ecen,   but i don't do windows.09:07
slaterockno errors09:07
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gent_ok...09:07
gent_somet things fixed09:07
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slavikhmm, well... the idea is that the mesagl module needs to be removed09:07
gent_deskbar-applet is just a search... not what I'm looking for09:08
gent_but thanks anyway09:08
spikebhaha09:08
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intelikeyecen who told you it was safer ?09:08
spikebamarok <3 jayz09:08
ecenintelikey: yes, that is what i want, it worked form me when i had suse and lilo, but it doesnt seem to work with grub09:08
slaterockand is that possible?09:08
Gent_got my audio fixed...09:08
Gent_somewhat....09:08
spikebbbl folks, gonna try and sleep09:08
Overandany of you guys work with 3ware controllers?  - http://pastebin.com/66664709:08
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intelikeyecen then use lilo.09:08
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intelikeylinux is linux.   lilo can boot ubuntu as better that grub can...09:09
slavikslaterock: should be ... but I dunno which package it is09:09
intelikeyexcues me   as better as    :)09:09
Overandintelikey: "As well as"09:09
Gent_hrm, no ifolder package09:09
slavikslaterock: try search synaptic for mesgl09:09
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endeavormacI am having a terrible time disabling the touchpad tapping on my powerbook. I have added the lines Option "MaxTapTime" "0" and Option "TapButton1" "0" to my xorg.conf, yet tapping still occurs after the xserv is restarted. I'm at a bit of a loss here, could someone point me in the right direction?09:09
slavikmesagl09:09
intelikeyOverand that's your openion... i have my own... :)09:09
slaterockthere's a libglu1-mesa09:10
Overandintelikey: I wouldn't call 'correct english' an opinion.09:10
ecenintelikey: im not saying it is safer... it is easier. i would be happy not to have to restore the mbr everytime i reinstall any os, and linux is the one that lets me make an image of the boot record09:10
slaviknot that09:10
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slavikslaterock: do a search on "glx"09:10
intelikeyOverand then just plain  better   if you want "propper" english   seeing that correct is not the propper term either.09:11
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slavikGent_: does nvidia release ppc drivers?09:11
eceni'm basically new to linux so im affraid if i install lilo and anything goes bad then i wont be able to boot any o09:11
ecenos09:11
slaterocknot seeing anything09:11
sfaryou can always restore MBR with winxp-install cd09:12
slavikinteresting ...09:12
Gent_no?09:12
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Overandintelikey: i'm not going to argue with you about 'proper' english if you can't spell 'proper' -- besides, this is offtopic.09:12
intelikeyit's your rant.09:12
slaterocki see dri modules09:12
slavikhmm, prolly not of interest ...09:13
slavikdri is for oldercards09:13
slaterockoh09:13
slaterock9100 igp09:13
Overandalso, intelikey, don't IRC as root.09:13
slaterock:)09:13
slavikslaterock: post on forums...09:13
Gent_hrm....09:13
slaterockgahhh09:13
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slaterocki hate this creeeyap09:13
slavikslaterock: huh?09:13
intelikeyOverand bite me.09:13
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slavikintelikey and Overand stop taking up my bandwidth for useless crap, go elsewhere09:14
mzinzI was at the apple.com site, and it said I was missing a plugin (it was a quicktime video embeded on the website).  What package am I missing?09:14
BoyDubaiin terminal, ">" appears and i can't exit even pressing ctrl-z doesn't stop it... what's this?09:14
intelikeyslavik..... mmm ok !09:14
MadpilotOverand & intelikey - #ubuntu-offtopic, or elsewhere, thanks. Not here...09:15
slavikmzinz: you need mplayer plugin, or totem plugin09:15
sfarOverand: how did you know he's IRCing as ropot09:15
sfar*root09:15
mzinzslavik, whats the apt-get package?09:15
Overandsfar: 03:12 [freenode]  -!- intelikey [n=root@0-1pool91-14.nas23.houston4.tx.us.da.qwest.net] 09:15
sfarah09:15
sfar:)09:15
slavikmzinz: use synaptic to search for mplayer09:15
slaterockis it possible that there's a problem in directories?09:15
mzinzslavik, thanks09:15
slavikit'smplayer-mozilla I think, not sure09:15
slaterocki just don't see why when I configure xorg, mesa still pops up09:15
slavikslaterock: dunno, the procedure you followed is the exact one I did on my lappy09:16
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mzinzslavik, I already have mplayer installed.  Any clue whats wrong?09:16
slavikthat's the thing with linux ... there aren't any standards on installing drivers09:16
slaterocklol09:16
slavikmzinz: do you have the plugin for mozilla installed?09:17
mzinzslavik, yeah.. mozilla-mplayer09:17
slaviklike windows has ... ie: here's this device, what driver you want me to us?09:17
Gent_shit...09:17
slaterockit looks like my glx is under ati, but opengl is mesa09:17
slavikuse*09:17
slavikhmm09:17
Gent_errr...09:17
mzinzslavik, you sure it applies towards quicktime?09:17
slavikmzinz: hmm, not sure09:17
Gent_did dapper include the reversed broadcom wireless thing for airport extreme?09:17
slavikmzinz: gimmie a link09:17
Gent_cause I have a wireless card listed now...09:17
slavikGent_: it does09:18
mzinzslavik, http://www.apple.com/aperture/09:18
Gent_oh my god!09:18
Gent_I love them09:18
Gent_now if only I could find my network key09:18
slavikGent_: broadcomm made a linux driver, I think09:18
Gent_nah, it was reverse engineered slavik09:18
slavikk09:18
Gent_last I checked anyway09:18
Gent_unless they released one after that09:18
Gent_cause they didn't want us hackers meddling in their business09:18
Madpilot!enter09:19
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.09:19
mzinzGent_, you have a broadcome WNIC adapter... Have they made an acceptable driver yet or is ndiswrapper still required09:19
cafuegoGent_: Yes, it does. You DO need to fetch an accompanying fimware, though.09:19
cafuego!bcm43xx09:19
ubotuTo use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.09:19
Gent_hrm... can I strip the firmware under OS X?09:19
slavikGent_: you can in linux09:19
cafuegoGent_: I did a package, it's on the wiki.09:19
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slavikmzinz: you sure you have mplayer-mozilla installed?09:20
mzinzslavik, positive.09:20
Gent_hrm09:20
Gent_I'll try this firmware packatge09:20
mzinzslavik, the only thing I can wonder is if maybe the plugin is trying to be used on the old version of firefox and not applying to my 1.509:20
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Overandmzinz: that is likely09:21
Overandmzinz: did you read the 'new firefox' guide on the wiki?09:21
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slavikyeah, that one is useful09:21
slaviktime for me to sleep,night all09:22
Overandthere's a section on doing symlinks09:22
Overandfor plugins09:22
mzinzOverand, well I installed FF a while ago... i dont even remember there being a guide called new firefox09:22
slavikslaterock: also, mesagl is the linux opengl implementation :)09:22
Overandmzinz: one sec09:22
Gent_nice09:22
Overand!firefox09:22
Gent_looks like it works09:22
Overandhm09:22
mzinzHow can I find out information on my Wireless card? Make/model etc09:22
Gent_well now09:22
Gent_life is getting better for us PPC folks09:22
Overandmzinz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion09:23
Gent_I may be able to drop OS X soon if all pans out properly09:23
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Gent_OS X pisses me off09:24
Overandboy, this 3ware raid card is working *great* - it refuses to rebuild the 'degraded' array09:24
Gent_it lost my home directory info or something and now for some reason I still share the same home directory, but it doesn't recognize the Desktop folder09:24
Gent_I basically share my home between ubuntu and OS X09:24
mzinzOverand, other than my plugin not working, is there any point in upgrading from 1.5 to 1.5.0.2?09:24
Gent_so if I had made a folder on my desktop in ubuntu it would be in OS X too and all that09:24
Gent_or any files on my desktop09:24
Gent_but now it seems to ignore it09:25
Overandmzinz: this is more about the 'proper' way to install 1.5.*09:25
mzinzOverand, ic09:25
mzinzOverand, random q: how do i find out info about my wireless nic? make/model etc09:26
Overandwell, lspci miiight help09:26
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mzinzOverand, perfect :)09:26
ArafangionHow do I fix this problem with lilo? http://rafb.net/paste/results/gdKQxg51.html09:27
DNA_StringAfter playing around with Ubuntu LiveCD, I decided to switch from MS to Ubuntu. However I'm having instalation problems. After the packages insall I get the login screen, which after loging in does nothing. period. I'm obvioulsy in XWindows, because I have a nice pointer mouse and because the background of the screen is that ubuntu-earthy-brown color. The system is a IBM Thinkpad 600X.09:27
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OverandDNA_String: did you use the installer cd to install?09:27
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Gent_Denzel Washington sounds exactly like Malcom X09:27
DNA_StringYes09:28
OverandDNA_String: try dpkg-reconfigure gnome09:28
Overandor something09:28
Overandsomeone else chime in with the right package name =] 09:28
DNA_Stringwhere? How would I get to a command terminal?09:28
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OverandDNA_String: control-alt-F209:29
Overandthen alt-F7 to return to the GUI09:29
Overandinside a text mode, alt-F1 to F6 is virtual terminals09:29
Overandand F7 is the GUI.   when inside the gui, you need to do control-alt-whatever09:29
kie27greetings all, i have a quick question about chinese support in ubuntu, is there going to be pen entry chinese character recognition forthcoming? do you know what chinese input methods are going to be supported? i am living in HK and try to introduce people to ubuntu but chinese input is really critical.09:30
DNA_Stringsays must do as root. how?09:31
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OverandDNA_String: sudo commandname09:31
OverandDNA_String: note- this may 'break' your system09:31
Overand=] 09:31
ArafangionHello?09:31
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MadpilotArafangion, ?09:32
OverandArafangion: do you have a question?09:32
DNA_Stringit's newly installed, nothing is on it, I'm not worried about breaking it.09:32
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ArafangionSorry, just making sure that my messages actually got to the channel, sometimes this network ignores input.09:32
DNA_Stringnonetheless it says gnome is not installed.09:32
ArafangionHow do I fix this problem with lilo? http://rafb.net/paste/results/gdKQxg51.html09:32
sfarDNA_String: great, enter "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome", and then your password09:33
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charleslaptopwhat is wrong with this command (xorg.conf is a file in the current directory): sudo cat xorg.conf > /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:33
charleslaptopI get oermission denied09:33
charleslaptoppermission denied09:33
charleslaptoperr denied09:33
Overandstrange09:34
DNA_StringIt says gnome is not installed (and no info is available).09:34
dooglusBoyDubai: that '>' prompt is from you entering half a shell command.  control-c will abort it09:34
Overanddooglus: wong09:34
Overandwait09:34
dooglusBoyDubai: alternatively, close the quote, bracket, or whatever else you left half open09:34
Overandsorry dooglus09:34
Overandmis-read something09:34
Overanddooglus: thought you were referring to charleslaptop's thing =] 09:34
charleslaptopanyone know how I should format that command?  I'm guessing there are some quotes or something that I need09:35
doogluscharleslaptop: what's wrong with that is that the "sudo" bit only applies to the "cat xorg.conf", and the "> /etc/..." bit is run as you09:35
doogluscharleslaptop: "sudo cp xorg.conf /etc/X11" would do it09:35
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BoyDubaithanks.09:35
charleslaptopdooglus: I don't want to change permissions09:36
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doogluscharleslaptop: you can "sudo bash -c '< xorg.conf > /etc/X11/xorg.conf'" I guess09:36
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charleslaptopdooglus: how about sudo bash 'cat blah > bleh'09:36
The-MoonHey guys, im wondering when X will be fixed?09:36
charleslaptopoh ok, -c means command line or something?09:37
MadpilotThe-Moon, it seems to work here - what version of Ubuntu are you running?09:37
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doogluscharleslaptop: I think bash needs '-c' to tell it it's a command - otherwise it expects the name of a script to open and run09:37
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The-Moonthe version i just downloaded the other day09:37
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The-Moonim getting 48 fps in my basic allegro app09:37
The-Moonbut on windows i got 64fps09:37
The-Moonwhats the deal?09:37
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mathew-efDoes anybody know what is Ubuntu-lite?09:37
The-Mooni moved over to linux because its supose to be better for game programming, but its running slower.09:38
The-Moon48 fps is crap09:38
The-Moonneed atleast 60 to get a decent refresh rate09:38
The-Moonor well decent animation/smoothness09:38
MadpilotThe-Moon, what graphics card do you have?09:39
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The-Moonthat shouldnt matter09:39
The-Moonit ran at 64 in windows09:39
The-Moonruns at 48 in linux09:39
Madpilot!enter09:39
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.09:39
The-Moonnivida geforce 409:39
MadpilotThe-Moon, got the nvidia 3d drivers installed, I assume?09:40
The-MoonYup09:40
sfarwell.. it matters if you dont have the correct drivers in linux09:40
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The-Mooni did that earler09:40
The-MoonWolfenstein ET runs fine09:40
The-Moonjust like it did on windows09:40
The-Moonby my allegro app is running 1/3 slower now09:40
somartshi09:40
MadpilotThe-Moon, please ease up on the Enter key - one sentence per line, thanks...09:40
sfarThe-Moon: 1/4 slower09:41
The-Moonyteah sorry09:41
The-Moonyeah 1/409:41
The-Moonhit the wrong key09:41
The-Moondamnit...09:41
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dooglushey, that was09:41
MadpilotThe-Moon, I've no idea what 'allegro' is, but if ET is running fine, that sounds like a problem with it, not X or your 3d drivers...09:41
dooglusone sentence on 309:41
doogluslines!09:41
Gent_now09:41
Gent_if there was only a way to get XGL09:42
The-Moon(03:34:37) Tomasu: in windows you get DirectX, in X you get ... X09:42
The-Moon(03:34:58) Tomasu: X will be slower than DX till we get the OpenGL driver working properly09:42
slaterockhas anyone in here installed ati drivers for a 9100 igp?09:43
GiGaHuRtZslaterock, I could never get em to work :(09:43
Seveas!tell Gent_ about xgl09:43
Gent_Seveas, it's PPC09:43
The-Moonok ill be back09:43
slaterockyeah, they're annoying as allgetout09:43
Madpilothi Seveas09:43
SeveasGent_, so?09:44
GiGaHuRtZYa, I ended up junking the laptop because I hate ati drivers09:44
Seveasiirc xgl works for ppc too...09:44
Gent_so there's no drivers...09:44
Seveashi Madpilot 09:44
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SeveasGent_, poke at ati to release their sources 09:44
GiGaHuRtZHeh, Nvidia will do it before ATI does09:44
Gent_yeah... that's all I need to do to get it... eh?09:44
SeveasGiGaHuRtZ, the 12th of never and the 13th of nevr don't make too much difference...09:45
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GiGaHuRtZWell there are actually people working with Nvidia to open source their drivers09:45
Gent_Just convince a multi million dollar company to open up source code so people can freely code and make use of their research and development money09:45
Gent_no problem...09:45
slaterockthis is just ridiculous09:45
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slaterockwhy is it so tough to install these?09:45
Gent_I'll have XGL in 5 minutes...09:45
GiGaHuRtZWith ATI, there are no efforts once so ever09:45
DNA_StringI've entered ""sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome" at the command line and quickly got the response "Package 'gnome' is not installed and no info is available". What do I do now?09:46
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Gent_still wish that novell menu applet was available09:46
Auckland_Pigi have lots of gnome-pty-helper(around 20) when i see processes in System monitor09:46
Auckland_Pigwhat are these gnome-pty-helpers? can i kill them?09:47
OverandDNA_String: that's not the right package name09:47
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ompaulGiGaHuRtZ, that is because you need not to be running the 3d version of the XGL09:47
ompaul**************News Flash************** Dapper and XGL are for discussion in #ubuntu+1 and #xgl the correct channels for that09:47
OverandDNA_String: try to install it09:47
Seveas**************News Flash************** ompaul has arrived 09:47
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OverandDNA_String: sudo apt-get install gnome09:48
slaterockweird09:48
Overandbleh09:48
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GiGaHuRtZWTH?  When did I say anything regarding xgl?09:48
slaterockit's an opengl issue09:48
Overandi am totally freaked about this raid config =/09:48
slaterockwhen i look at the ati info ap09:48
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slaterockit shows me the right ati driver number09:48
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Madpilotompaul, or at least for gross abuse of the common asteriks :P09:48
slaterockbut the opengl is till being handled strictly by mesa09:48
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ompaulhehe09:49
GiGaHuRtZompaul, When did I say anything regarding xgl?09:49
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Gent_my essay writing teacher is on crack, he tells me to tighten a 4 page double spaced essay size 12 font... every example essay we read in class is about 4 pages, size 8 font, single spaced...09:49
ompaulGiGaHuRtZ, you didn't tab completion at this hour of the morning (pre coffee) got me bad :-)09:49
GiGaHuRtZhaha09:50
GiGaHuRtZAlrighty ;)09:50
DNA_Stringafter "sudo apt-get install gnome" I got "E: Couldn't find package gnome"09:50
GiGaHuRtZDNA_String, "ubuntu-desktop"09:50
ArafangionWhy can't I use lilo properly? I can't even run it!09:50
ArafangionHow do I fix this problem with lilo? http://rafb.net/paste/results/gdKQxg51.html09:50
RealMurphyHi there, I'm about to try ubuntu on a server, however, this server can only be accessed remotely vie serial console or a "recovery" system aka busybux. I've googled a bit, but have not found much about this kind of scenario, any suggestions besides creating a base.tar.gz and scp it to the box?09:50
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mzinzif i have KDE and Gnome installed, can i switch between them some how?  Also, if i have KDE installed, does that mean "I have Kubuntu"?09:51
Gent_that doesn't sound too hopeful RealMurphy09:51
GiGaHuRtZmzinz, sure ya can switch, using the session manager, either kdm or gdm09:51
ompaul!goodmorning09:51
ubotuGooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu! It looks like another beautiful ubuntuous day, may humanity be with you and your problems be solved :)09:51
RealMurphyGent_: I guess so,  I know it's possible this way (installed debian this way 2.5 years ago), but it's a pain in drak places09:52
mzinzGiGaHuRtZ, ive played with gnome quite a bit now.  Is there any point to me getting and playing with KDE?  how different are they?09:52
RealMurphyArafangi1n: maybe, lilo.conf is wrong?09:52
sfarmzinz: you can select "Session" at login09:52
Auckland_Pigubotu: what is gnome-pty-helper09:52
ubotuAuckland_Pig: what are you talking about?09:52
ArafangionRealMurphy: I would probably advise you to use Debian, because docs exist that allow you to install from within another (linux) system.09:52
dooglusmzinz: they're quite different09:52
GiGaHuRtZmzinz, A LOT different09:52
mzinzGiGaHuRtZ, examples?09:52
GiGaHuRtZSome people prefer gnome, some prefer kde09:52
GiGaHuRtZMYsle,f I have 11 Windows Managers installed09:52
Gent_RealMurphy, anything is possible.... just not something I would want to attempt09:52
ArafangionRealMurphy: I'll post the lilo.conf file as well, then.09:52
GiGaHuRtZBut one doesn't work...09:52
OverandRealMurphy: if you just want to 'try' kde, hit up knoppix09:52
mzinzGiGaHuRtZ, i guess it couldn't hurt to get KDE then.  whats the package name?09:52
GiGaHuRtZmzinz, kubuntu-desktop09:53
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RealMurphyOverand: Try kde?09:53
DNA_Stringto "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" I get "ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version" followed by "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove, and 0 not upgraded".09:53
RealMurphyOverand: I'm the one with the server ;)09:53
OverandRealMurphy: sorry, yeah09:53
Overandi'm multitasking hardcore09:53
RealMurphy*g*09:53
OverandDNA_String: sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop09:53
GiGaHuRtZDNA_String, maybe I missed out on exactly what it is you are trying to accomplish09:53
Gent_So anyone want to "tighten" up this restaurant review for me?09:53
mzinzWhat are a couple examples of how KDE and gnome differ?09:54
ompaul!offtopic09:54
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!09:54
OverandGiGaHuRtZ: after GDM, he gets a cursor and background andn othing else09:54
Auckland_Pigubotu: are you a bot or a human?09:54
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Auckland_Pig09:54
Gent_wtf?09:54
RealMurphyGent_: The problem ist, it's a Athlon64 box, and I'd rather want to run amd64 on it, probably have to try etch than, even if it's not final yet09:54
OverandAuckland_Pig: grep 'bot' inside 'ubotu'09:54
Madpilotubotu, tell Auckland_Pig about yourself09:54
ompaul!bot09:54
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.09:54
Gent_RealMurphy, I just can't imagine doing it over a serial line or something like that09:54
Auckland_Pighehehe... nice...09:54
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OverandRealMurphy: do you have access toputting a CD in it?09:55
GiGaHuRtZOverand, Maybe a problem with how his sessions are configured, try the actual session called "GNOME" under the sessions list rather then leaving it on "Default session"09:55
Overandlike... do you just mean it's headless?09:55
ArafangionCould someone please help me with my lilo problem? I have *heaps* of debugging output here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/y1AzR674.html09:55
RealMurphyGent_: Ah sorry, no, a misunderstanding. the box is a rented "root-server" and I have a full 100 Mbit connecction to it, serial console is emulated via LAN as well09:55
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RealMurphyOverand: No, tha's exactly the problem :)09:55
Overandaahhh09:55
Overandheh09:55
Overandwhat's it running now?09:55
RealMurphyOverand: I can rent it with debian or SuSE, but only SuSE comes 64bit09:56
Overandhmm09:56
GiGaHuRtZRealMurphy, You mean a colo?09:56
RealMurphyOverand: I guess I have to live in 32bit still, but well...09:56
Overandwell you could go debian, and then change the sources.list ....09:56
Overandand potentially really screw stuff up09:56
RealMurphyGigaByte_: No, it's rented, it's not my own server09:56
Overandbut it would be serious fun09:56
RealMurphyOverand: Yeah, that would be possible, installing sarge first (or even woody) and upgrade to ubuntu server ;)09:57
DNA_StringGiGaHuRtZ: I just installed ubuntu and after the first login it justs sits there - just the mouse and the ubuntu-earthy-brown desktop. no Icons, no menus, no trays, nothing but mouse and brown.09:57
GiGaHuRtZOdd....09:57
Overandbrown mouse!09:57
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ArafangionRealMurphy: Why don't you stick with 32-bits, then upgrade the kernel and compile your own 64-bit version of apache or whatever daemon you're using?09:57
DNA_StringOverand: are you trying to be helpful or have you just lost sanity? :)09:58
Gent_heh, this guy called up at work today asking whether he should come in and buy SuSE09:58
ArafangionRealMurphy: http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html <-- That's the first google hit for "remotely installing debian"09:58
mzinzIf I like Ubuntu, what other distros might I consider using?09:58
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Arafangionmzinz: Ubuntu is pretty much unique.09:59
Gent_None if you like ubuntu09:59
Overandheh09:59
GiGaHuRtZDNA_String, have you tried failsafe gnome or any of the other options under the gdm sessions menu?09:59
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DNA_Stringno.09:59
mzinzArafangion, aren't all distros pretty much unique?09:59
Arafangionmzinz: If you like ubuntu, but you are only using it as a server, without gui, then you may like Debian also.09:59
Arafangionmzinz: No.09:59
Gent_I don't know why no one thought of something like ubuntu before...09:59
Gent_it has most of what you need, nothing you don't09:59
DNA_Stringhow would I get them? Restart the computer?09:59
OverandI actually prefer ubuntu to debian as a server platform, somewhat09:59
DNA_Stringhow would I get *to* them? Restart the computer?09:59
Gent_Every other distro has at least 10 web browsers09:59
mzinzArafangion, I'm definltely not using it as a server, though im not disreguarding the necessity at some point.  But right now I'm using it purely for client and primary OS purposes.10:00
GiGaHuRtZDNA_String, you get the gdm login dont you?10:00
OverandDNA_String: try hitting control-alt-backspace10:00
mzinzArafangion, what makes it unique?10:00
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Arafangionmzinz: You can organize distros into fairly crude classifications, such as the "Redhat camp" (mandrake, redhat, etc, and possibly Suze), the "Debian camp", which is very nearly just Debian, the slackware group, the from scratch group, and finally, the source-based distros.10:00
RealMurphyArafangi1n: Yeah I know that one, I tried to find a more generic way around debootstrap :)10:00
RealMurphyArafangi1n: But ubuntu is much more up2date than sarge10:01
ArafangionRealMurphy: Oh really?10:01
OverandInstalling gentoo without the 'installer' was actually very enlightening10:01
ArafangionRealMurphy: Sarge is a heck alot mroe stable.10:01
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BoyDubaiwhy can't i edit my HelloWorldApp.java?10:01
RealMurphyArafangi1n: Is it? Never had problems with any ubuntu/kubuntu server running locally here10:01
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Madpilotfolks, chat about other distros can move to #ubuntu-offtopic, please...10:01
ArafangionRealMurphy: I would probably put Ubuntu as somewhere in between Sarge and Etch.10:01
BoyDubaihow can i edit a text file?10:02
mzinzArafangion, I know ubuntu, but not well.. a few months practice.  I know how to get around and I know the filesystem, but i have so little experience outside ubuntu i feel held back and unexperienced in the linux world.  What other distro might you recommend to help me experience... a little more?10:02
ompaulmzinz, more ubuntu10:02
Auckland_PigBoyDubai: use gedit10:02
mzinzompaul, :)10:02
Arafangionmzinz: Ubuntu is a very nice distro.10:02
RealMurphyArafangi1n: YEah, but I'm reluctant to put etch on it, last week some changes broke parts of etch (on 64bit - they changed the loader)10:02
BoyDubaii can't... it opens the file but i can't enter characters.10:02
gholenIf I'd like to add a harddrive thats is filld with music, and formatted in ext3, how can I add it in a ubuntu-machine?10:02
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mzinzArafangion, so i hear10:02
wedlomisyo all10:02
GNU_Styleanyone have any idea of LDAP+Samba for active directory10:02
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ArafangionRealMurphy: Personally, I'd just stick anything on it, then put management into your own hands, effectively forking it, given the state of 64-bit.10:03
Auckland_PigBoyDubai: may be the file is readonly. if you are sure what you are doing then open the terminal and "sudo gedit filename"10:03
Gent_hey, I read somewhere that you can change button order in gconf, anyone know where that is?10:03
RealMurphyOuch, but that would mean a LOT of recompiling, I'd take gentoo then ;)10:04
ArafangionRealMurphy: Not really.10:04
ompaulBoyDubai, put the error on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and then ask the question here thanks10:04
RealMurphyArafangi1n: yeah, just kidding10:04
ArafangionRealMurphy: You just need to recompile one or two programs that the server will really use.10:04
ArafangionRealMurphy: I'm assuming that you have a colo server that does little more than run one or two daemons, right?10:04
RealMurphyArafangi1n: Which are quite a few, but nevertheless, I guess it would make sense to put etch on it10:05
BoyDubaiok thanks!10:05
RealMurphyArafangi1n: Yeah, reight now it does a little bit more than just LAMP10:05
Gent_bwuahahah10:05
ArafangionRealMurphy: Make sure you install apt-listchanges apt-listbugs and the like.10:05
Gent_nevermind, I found it10:05
RealMurphyArafangi1n: That is the predecessor of this new box10:05
Overandoh man10:06
Overandi used etch on 64 bit10:06
Overandit was10:06
Overander10:06
ompaulGuys take the etch woody and spud into #ubuntu-offtopic they would have more of a conversational attitude this is supposed to be a Ubuntu tech support channel and it has 656 users in it thanks :-)10:06
bintuthow can i dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper my ubuntu amd64?10:06
ArafangionRealMurphy: You could also try adapting the debian install instructions to Ubuntu.10:07
DBObintut, you need to edit your sources.list to change all the bits that say breezy to dapper10:07
Auckland_Pigompaul: just curious... are there any "paid" tech support persons on this channel?10:07
RealMurphyArafangi1n: That was basically the question how much they differ and if there is another way "around" it10:07
MadpilotAuckland_Pig, nope10:07
BoyDubaiit worked when i used sudo... i own the file but how come i still need to use sudo to edit it?10:07
skplhi i am having trouble using bittorent, can someone help?10:07
ArafangionRealMurphy: If you have a spare box, you could try doing a test.10:07
bintutDBO: yeah..  where can i find the mirrors for dapper in order that i can upgrade to it?10:08
MadpilotBoyDubai, check the permissions - sounds like you might not have write permission10:08
Auckland_PigBoyDubai: the file is probably readonly10:08
ompaulAuckland_Pig, not that I know of, but you know something there are some paid people who support stuff10:08
ArafangionAnyway, I'm getting dinner.10:08
ompaul:-)10:08
Auckland_Pigoh ok...10:08
DBObintut, no no, once you change the sources.list you type "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and away you go10:08
sfarbintut: /etc/apt/sources.list10:08
RealMurphyompaul: I'm just curious if *technically* ubuntu is up to be put onto a server10:08
ompaulRealMurphy, yes it is10:09
Auckland_Pigompaul: was just wondering if that happens then there would be more competition b/w redhat & ubuntu10:09
RealMurphyArafangi1n: Anyway, thanks a lot!10:09
MadpilotRealMurphy, I gather that all of Ubuntu's own servers run... Ubuntu - and they seem stable :P10:09
RealMurphyompaul: Also for a headless remote installation?10:09
ompaulI run it, I just don't happen to have a web server reason at this time10:09
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bintutDBO and sfar:  i don't know what to change.. shall i just change all the "breezy" words to "dapper"?10:09
DBORealMurphy, yes it is, but you will want to modify its default config (of course)10:09
RealMurphyMadpilot: *gr*10:09
DBObintut, you got it10:09
bintutDBO: thanks..10:09
RealMurphyDBO: Yes, but how, the usual debootstrap way or is there another approach?10:09
RealMurphyompaul: with headless I mean, I have only an ssh connection (or serial over LAN) without the possibility to access any CD-drive10:10
BoyDubaidoes it mean that everytime i create a new file i can't edit it unless i use sudo or change the permission?10:11
MadpilotBoyDubai, new files you create in directories you own should be OK10:11
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MadpilotBoyDubai, was the file you tried to edit moved to Ubuntu from elsewhere?10:12
BoyDubaithe files is in my /home/myuser/javafiles10:12
OverandRealMurphy: it had better be, i'm moving an unbunto box into a colo in a week or three10:12
Overandafter i do a 'burn-in' test10:12
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BoyDubainope... it was in the ubuntu since beginning and in the same directory10:12
ompaulbintut,  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). read this page - where it says hoary place the word breezy and where it says breezy place the word dapper https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade10:12
MadpilotBoyDubai, odd. Check the permissions on the directory it's in, then10:13
Auckland_Pigmy ubuntu uptime is 14 days & going .... lol the longest my computer has been up10:13
Auckland_Pig:)10:13
RealMurphyOverand: I've done the debootstrap way 2.5 yrs ago with *beep* and foudn it tedious, so, how are you planning to perform the install?10:13
Overandubunto?  heh.  ubuntu10:14
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ompaulbintut, the dapper conversations take place in the channel #ubuntu+110:14
OverandRealMurphy: with a CD =]   it's already installed10:14
sfarhm.. if i search the wiki for titles named "fstab" i get a wierd result10:14
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RealMurphyOverand: O K... unfortunetaly, that's not an option.. maybe I'll just try to install it with pbuilders "native" base systen and try to start from there10:14
RealMurphyAnyway, thanks a lot folks!10:15
BoyDubaiMadpilot, i'm a newbie in linux... how can i check the permission?10:15
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Auckland_PigBoyDubai: right click the file and click permissions (if you are using gnome)10:15
MadpilotBoyDubai, open the file manager, right-click on the directory or file, choose Properties10:15
BoyDubaiok10:15
BoyDubaithanks10:15
Auckland_PigBoyDubai: or use the terminal and do ls -l in that directory10:15
ompaulBoyDubai, ls -al filename using a terminal Applications - Accessories - Terminal10:16
cyphasehow do you use wget to download file.ext to file2.ext?10:16
cyphaseoops10:16
cyphasemisworded10:16
cyphasehow do you use wget to save file.ext as file2.ext10:16
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cyphaseompaul, sorry :S10:17
RealMurphycyphase: ? --output-document=file perhaps?10:17
cyphaseRealMurphy, thanx10:17
cyphasei missed it, i only saw the log file version10:17
bintutwhat is "restricted" in my /etc/apt/sources.list?10:18
ompaulcyphase, it tends to save the file with an extention of file.ext and file.ext.1 for copies of same10:18
cyphasei know10:18
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cyphasebut i need to be able to name it10:18
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bintutdo i need the "restricted" word in my /etc/apt/sources.list ?10:18
Madpilotbintut, yes10:18
Jimmey__Just quickly, how can I kill a process dead in it's tracks, if it's not ending after I end it using the system monitor?10:18
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BoyDubaii've sent the text in the pastebin... please check.10:19
TerminusJimmey__: kill -9 $process_id10:20
MadpilotBoyDubai, paste your pastebin URL?10:20
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ompaulJimmey__, if it was the file "foo" that was running killall foo kill -9 $PID (as above) and if it is a gui you can fire up xkill and move the mouse over the window and kaboom - not nice but there ya go10:21
BoyDubaihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1249110:21
BoyDubaithe .java file is owned by root... why?10:21
BoyDubaimaybe i just didn't notice... i might have used sudo gedit helloworldapp.java... does it automatically owned by root?10:22
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GNU_Stylebintut, hey10:22
MadpilotBoyDubai, use chmod in the terminal to get ownership back10:22
GNU_Stylebintut, u from PH?10:22
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bintutGNU_Style: yeah. you?10:24
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GNU_Stylebintut, PH too10:25
GNU_Stylebintut, Were in the PH?10:25
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bintutGNU_Style: currently in mandaluyong city.. in a few hours, i'll be in pasig city..  you?10:26
GNU_Stylebintut, you in a car or something?10:26
GNU_Styleim in cebu10:26
bintutGNU_Style: nope.  i'm in our office..  have we met already?10:27
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GNU_Stylebintut, no, ur nick sounds so PH thats why im asking10:27
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bintutGNU_Style: oh!  :D10:28
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renewipHi, where can I find BIG Ubuntu logo to make our Ubuntu User Group's uniform?10:28
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BoyDubaiMadpilot, i changed the ownership but i think i made a mistake... it became ----------   1 root  root   261 2006-04-18 12:05 HelloWorldApp.java10:28
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MadpilotBoyDubai, looks like you messed up all the permissions w/o changing ownership - chown changes ownership10:28
BoyDubaii used chmod10:29
BoyDubai:)10:29
Madpilotrenewip, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official10:30
bintutBoyDubai:  find . -type d -exec chmod 755 '{}' ';' ; find . -type f -exec chmod 644 '{}' ';'10:30
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MadpilotBoyDubai, "sudo chown username:username name-of-file"10:30
bintutBoyDubai:  sudo find . -type d -exec chmod 755 '{}' ';' ; sudo find . -type f -exec chmod 644 '{}' ';'10:31
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bintutBoyDubai:  sudo chown username:default_group name_of_file10:31
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KenSentMegood morning10:34
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kylianHi all10:35
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monsterbhi10:35
kylianHow are you ?10:35
monsterbgood and u?10:36
kylianme too thks10:36
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BoyDubaithanks! it works now.10:36
monsterbIt's bedtime - goodnight :)10:36
kylianme too , I'm in my school10:37
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kylianBye Monsterb10:37
Antonio\\Hi All10:37
kylianHi guys10:37
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Antonio\\how are u ?10:38
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kylianfine thks and you ?10:38
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Antonio\\me too : )10:39
kylianokay10:39
Antonio\\what do u do ? =x10:39
ompaulAntonio\\, have a chat with each other in the lab10:39
kylianWould you like to fuck you ?10:39
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Antonio\\what did u say ?10:39
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ompaulAntonio\\, you and kylian are both on the same ip10:40
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IRCMonkey_Hi , i wanted to install dapper drake alpha , can i install it without any  media?10:40
Jimmey__ubotu: tell kylian about swear10:40
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Jimmey__IRCMonkey, try #ubuntu+110:41
IRCMonkey_thanks10:41
munzirHi, I downloaded http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/20060411/dapper-dvd-amd64.iso and it gave me a root prompt after this error: kernel direct mapping tables upto ffff810100000000 @ .... can't access tty; job control turned off.10:41
revartjhello10:42
Gent_as soon as I find a good background it's screenshot time10:42
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revartji am working whith c++ and process administration whit pipe,fifo, etc ....10:42
revartjsomebody could said me why ubuntu is bloqueade10:43
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BoyDubaiis antivirus necessary in linux like ubuntu?10:45
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tonyyarussoBoyDubai: Most likely not, unless you're running an e-mail server or something.10:45
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ompaulBoyDubai, no10:45
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matrix#ubuntu+110:46
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BoyDubaiok10:46
BoyDubaithanks!10:46
BoyDubainow... i'm starting to like Ubuntu. :) this is my first time to use linux... and i'm enjoying it.10:47
BoyDubaiconfusing command lines... etc.10:47
BoyDubai:)10:47
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munzirBoyDubai: command lines to do what?10:47
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BoyDubaicommand lines to do almost everything (update... install, etc.) ... coz i'm a windows slave and everything is just a simple click.10:48
matrixCan i install Dapper Drake alpha over Net like Debian? Some Body please hep me i am very eager to install it10:49
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KenSentMematrix: check #ubuntu+110:51
matrixok thanks10:51
munzirBoyDubai: but it's not necessary to use command line!10:52
munzirBoyDubai: you can do all these things with the lame clicking too10:52
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v3rmapHi, when I start any gnome application in Dapper Flight 6, I get the following warnings:10:52
buttfukcboydubai how long of you had ubuntu10:52
v3rmap(xchat-gnome:7170): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib10:52
v3rmap(xchat-gnome:7170): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers10:53
v3rmapAny suggestions on how we can get these warnings to go away.10:53
Madpilotv3rmap, try #ubuntu+1 for Dapper questions10:53
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GiGaHuRtZNo one is in dapper to even answer any questions10:54
GiGaHuRtZ] OR at least awake/alive10:54
Madpilotbuttfukc, find a nicer nick, please10:54
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felyx 10:56
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felyxhi all10:56
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felyx     ?10:58
NeoBeehey, can someone tell how to install a new monitor. i'm replacing my previous one.10:58
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MadpilotNeoBee, just plug it in?10:58
NeoBeeit changes it resolution.10:59
ompaulfelyx, this is an english language channel10:59
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felyxthanks10:59
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Gent_bwuhahah10:59
Gent_this is it!10:59
NeoBeeMadpilot, it is not the same resolution as it was with my older monitor.10:59
Gent_oh my god11:00
MadpilotNeoBee, System->Prefs->Screen Res.11:00
Gent_it kinda looks like longhorn11:00
Gent_:(11:00
MadpilotGent_, mind not abusing your Enter key so much?11:00
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ompaulGent_, please put all your thoughts on one line and stop using the enter key as a comma, thanks11:00
NeoBeeMadpilot, i only have one option left there.11:00
Gent_bah, you kids and your demands.  There, is that better?11:00
kgoetzhi folks. how do you change the default application for something? 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure defaults' or similar?11:01
kgoetzi need to get the .doc extention changed from abiword to openoffice :S11:01
NeoBeeMadpilot, there is only one option there which is not what i really want.11:01
Madpilot!tell NeoBee about fixres11:01
munzirBoyDubai: you can use syaptic or adept e.g11:01
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ompaulkgoetz, no sudo update-alternatives --all << or --all can be the function11:02
kgoetzompaul, thanks :)11:02
NeoBeeMadpilot, do you have any site to recommend that i could read on?11:02
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MadpilotNeoBee, see the pm the bot just sent you11:03
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kgoetzompaul, would i run 'update-alternatives openoffice' or 'update-alternatives doc'?11:03
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redarrow'lo all11:03
NeoBeeMadpilot, thanks.11:03
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kgoetzhi redarrow11:04
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nana_hi11:04
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ompaulkgoetz, wrong way, no that is tied in by the wm - you should have a look at that program your looking at default application11:05
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nana_i want to my ntfs driver to be read but I don't know how to set permission11:05
redarrowI've just installed breezy on a rather old machine.. anyone know how to get a serial mouse working? setup from a terminal..11:05
nana_and how can i access root? or command sa11:05
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kgoetzompaul, i'v just got the man page up - i cant hopefully take it from here :)11:06
Madpilot!+ntfs11:06
ubotuI heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions11:06
Madpilotnana_, see the URLs above ^^^11:06
nana_ubotu : it is automatically mounted but it requires permisson11:06
ubotunana_: what are you talking about?11:06
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dooglusI'm only getting USB1.1 speeds on my USB2 interface - how can I speed it up11:07
dooglus?11:07
Madpilotnana_, ubotu is a bot11:08
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xukunAnybody know why I get this errors on console after I start xchat from console? (xchat:23977): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_scale: assertion `src != NULL' failed11:11
xukun)11:11
xukunit just goes and goes on!11:11
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nana_thanks all11:11
fateminasabEverytime i log in ubuntu i should change the modem file permission in /dev folder. What should i do?11:12
eytyxiosHi! I am a new user of linux and i have a problem with a backup DVDRW i made.I cannot access the drive and the files unless i use the console. my fstab states #/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0#, should i change it to auto? Anyway accessing the dvd from the console i copy my files with # cp -rv /media/cdrom/* /media/hde7/backup# ut i get some folders with ?????(invalide encoding). These folder11:13
eytyxioss contain files with greek names ("windows-age" but the disk i made it over mandrake with k3b, my first linux sys). any ideas?11:13
Gent_http://www.dotink.org/~gent/content/Images/Screenshots/ubuntuppc-1.png   and    http://www.dotink.org/~gent/content/Images/Screenshots/ubuntuppc-2.png11:14
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paxeyeris://  I think you answered it, change it to auto, see what gives.11:15
shinuis there a package for mdf2iso on the repos?11:15
kgoetzi tried what ompaul sugested, but i'm not sure what do to if there is no setting for the program i need to change in update-alternatives11:15
ompaulkgoetz, wrong way, no that is tied in by the wm - you should have a look at that program your looking at default application11:16
ompaulas I said already11:16
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eytyxiosthis auto is olny for he mount problem, how about the language? it gives invalide encoding with the file names....11:16
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kgoetzompaul, i dont follow11:17
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BoyDubaiin windows there/s an option to access a VPN using Network Connections... in ubuntu, what's its equivalent?11:18
charles`BoyDubai: depends on the VPN11:18
charles`BoyDubai: you can get the cisco client for linux11:18
charles`anyone know if there is somthing like easyubuntu for dapper?11:18
BoyDubaiwhat do u mean depends on VPN?11:18
charles`BoyDubai: I mean it depends on the type of VPN11:19
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eytyxiosthis is the error i get trying to access the cdrom ###Warning: device /dev/hdc is already handled by /etc/fstab, supplied label is ignored11:19
eytyxiosmount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only11:19
eytyxiosmount: /dev/hdc already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy11:19
eytyxiosmount: according to mtab, /dev/hdc is already mounted on /media/cdrom011:19
eytyxiosError: could not execute pmount###11:19
BoyDubaicharles`, in windows it's so easy to set up... i just enter the ip add and then that's it.... i don't know which type of VPN. once i'm connected i can use their internet and open sql11:20
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eytyxiosls /media11:21
eytyxioscdrom  cdrom0  hda1  hde7  hde8  hdg1  hdh111:21
eytyxiosi have 2 entries for cdrom, but from gnome i get none11:22
eytyxios....11:22
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charles`BoyDubai: when I want to VPN to my school in windows I have to install the cisco VPN client, and I have to do the same in linux11:22
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Bizzehhey11:23
BoyDubaicurrently in our office, if i want to VPN our europe ofc all i do is just set up a VPN using the Network Connections  and that's it. nothing else to install.11:23
paxBoyDubai: have you tried http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/11:24
Bizzehim stuck in a recovery cd here trying to get grub to install properly11:24
Bizzehubuntu installed it to the wrong place11:24
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BoyDubailet me check...11:24
BoyDubaithanks.11:24
Bizzehmy first boot drive on my bios is what grub calls hd211:25
Bizzehmy /boot partition is at around 200gb on my hdd, and around 30mb in size, and is partition 1 (0 is windows)11:25
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paxBoyDubai: np, they even have a GUI for it.11:25
BoyDubaiok11:26
BoyDubaipax, thanks!11:26
paxBoyDubai: ahleen.11:26
BuFFhow to change wallpaper into: "640x480 with 14 color" ?11:27
dockohi please can anyone help me? i'm trying to wget one file and i'm getting this error message: Error parsing proxy URL http://:7212/: Invalid host name... it is not needed to use wget through a proxy here. i know i can use the --no-proxy directive, but i don't know how to turn off this proxy setting completely11:27
dockoBuFF, 14 color? do you mean 16?11:28
dooglusdocko: does "env | grep 7212" show anything?11:29
dockodooglus, http_proxy=http://:7212/11:30
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dooglusdocko: unset that11:30
dooglusdocko: "unset http_proxy"11:30
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dockodooglus, great, that hepled, thanks! :-) i didn't know the unset command :-)11:30
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dooglusdocko: it's not permanent - it only works in the current shell11:31
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dooglusdocko: you'll need to find how it's getting set if you want to unset it permanently11:31
dockodooglus, ok thanks11:31
dooglusdocko: "grep 7212 ~/.*" perhaps11:31
BuFFdocko: i wanna change a grub picture and it needs 14 color pic11:32
dooglusI'm using a pcmcia card in my laptop to give me a USB2.0 port, and I'm plugging a USB-to-Ethernet adaptor into that.  My maximum download speed is around 150 KB/s, even on the LAN.  Why?  How can I fix it?11:33
holycowon the off chancethat someone might know ... does anyone know how to change font size from mm to points?  for some reason fonts default in oo to mm and not pt ...  nothing in options about this either11:34
dockoBuFF, i'm not very familiar with those graphical programs, but i think gimp could do that11:35
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shinuare there any services for the mouse that i can restart? it suddenly got kinda 'slow' to move11:40
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holycowshinu, logout, log back in.  chances are your video driver is borkin11:42
holycowg11:42
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holycow!openoffice.org211:48
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, holycow11:48
holycow!openoffice11:48
ubotuholycow: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:48
holycowwtf?11:48
holycow!openoffice.org11:48
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, holycow11:48
gnomefreakubotu tell holycow about msg the bot11:48
holycowgo away dude, i didn't ask you anything11:49
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LordKahlessanyone here who compiles their own kernel?11:49
gnomefreakholycow: if that was directed towards me than you need to re-read the irc rules and the bot rules11:50
holycowthat was directed at you11:50
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LordKahlessif you select Opteron/Athlon64/Hammer/K8 as ur processor type while configing your kernel11:51
LordKahlessdoes that mean you are running 64bit? or is itstill 32 bit?11:51
stamen81hello, how can I enable the DRI for ATI in Dapper11:52
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stamen81I have preinstalled the xorg-driver-ati and linux-headers11:52
stamen81loaded the module, and nothing11:52
stamen81please tell me what to do11:53
LordKahlessbuy a geforce :)11:53
LordKahlesswhat ati card is it?11:53
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Frogzoostamen81: you want the latest fglrx driver from the seveas repo (if your card can run it) - but yes, the ATI drivers are pretty crap for 3D11:54
Frogzoo!tell stamen81 about fglrx11:54
ArafangionFrogzoo: Apparnetly it's dependant on the card.11:54
ArafangionFrogzoo: Some cards are better with the ATI, and others are better with the free ones.11:54
LordKahlessin my experience, its kinda hit or miss with ati cards11:54
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LordKahlessbtw, anyone here happen to know11:55
LordKahlessis there a non nvidia non ati card, that has decent 3d accelleration in linux11:55
LordKahlessperhaps without having to use propriety drivers?11:55
FrogzooLordKahless: doesn't exist11:55
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Frogzoothese days, for 3d, it's nvidia or ati11:56
stamen81Frogzoo, so what to do11:56
stamen81Frogzoo, what to install11:56
LordKahlessis the gma900 intel video supported in linux?11:56
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Frogzoostamen81: install the fglrx driver if your card supports it, & if the performance still sux, get an nvidia11:56
LordKahlesspretty shitty video, but i have another box im thinking of putting linux on11:56
BoyDubaipax, this has been what i'm looking for!!!!!!!11:56
BoyDubaiu saved my day!11:57
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stamen81Frogzoo, aaa yes, thank you, and if can send some money :)11:57
paxBoyDubai: thanks for making me smile.11:57
The-Moonwhen i installed nvidia did it install any tools to configure it?11:57
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The-Moonnvidia 3d drivers*11:57
stamen81Frogzoo, to buy it11:57
holycowLordKahless, doesn't exist yet, there is a project that is trying to bring one to the market tho with open source drivers11:57
Frogzoo$$$ -> stamen8111:57
stamen81Frogzoo, :)11:57
LordKahlesswewt11:57
stamen81Frogzoo, real please11:58
stamen81Frogzoo, :)11:58
LordKahlessalthough, for my gaming box im going to stick with nvidia for the tim\e being11:58
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The-MoonANyone?11:58
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LordKahlessthou im going to have to keep windows on it unfortionatley :|11:58
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spikebwell11:58
spikebthat's fine11:58
spikebit's just a gaming box :P11:58
FrogzooLordKahless: interesting, yes the gma900 has a linux driver: http://www.intel.com/design/graphics/gma900/11:59
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LordKahlessoooh11:59
LordKahlessi know i can play wow on the gma90011:59
BoyDubaipax, i think something went wrong...11:59
LordKahlessat least under mac os i can11:59
BoyDubaii can connect to the tunnel but i can't open the websites...11:59
ArafangionLordKahless: I'm pretty sure you can play wow on onboard intel cards now.12:00
spikebyou can12:00
LordKahlessi was suprised when i found it playable under osx8612:00
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shinuholycow: yea, i did that, though im getting quake 3 to work and it doesnt seem to work :/12:00
LordKahlesslast time i used onboard video12:00
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shinuholycow: so i need to kill it everytime12:00
LordKahlesswas on my amd k6-2 400mhz12:00
spikebheh12:00
LordKahlessmax payne ran at 800x600 :D12:00
paxBoyDubai: ask the admin how things are setup on their end.12:00
spikebnvidia and ati both have onboard stuff as well12:00
holycowshimmmy, so what video card do you have?12:00
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spikebthough i dont know how well supported the ati stuff is12:01
holycowsorry that was meant for shinu12:01
LeaChimWhat's a good graphical program to turn a load of vob,ifo,bup files into the DVD they came from - they aren't in any sort of directory structure either12:01
holycowshinu, also check your processes to see if something isn't consuming all your cpu cycles (this mostly can't be a problem on linux but just incase)12:01
LordKahlessmy old socket a board had an onboard geforce 4 mx12:02
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BoyDubaiok... thanks!12:02
BoyDubaipax, let me just my connection in windows and i'll try to see the similiarities and differences. though i was able to connect ... there are some sites that do not open.12:02
spikebnvidia's nforce stuff is supported now i believe. not bad stuff.12:03
mmopihi12:03
shinuholycow: ive got an onboard one with my laptop, and ill check the processes, thanks12:03
paxBoyDubai: for your windows box, you can just use RDP.12:03
Frogzoospikeb: the consensus seems to be that nvidia's linux drivers are significantly better for 3d than ati's12:03
mmopiwhat about virus attack12:04
spikebFrogzoo, that's true.12:04
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spikebFrogzoo, they can't be any worse, i speak from experience with ATI drivers.12:04
spikebto be fair to ATI, they make crappy windows drivers too12:05
spikebheh12:05
Frogzoomy lappie is has a radeon *cries*12:05
spikebheh, my mac mini does as well12:05
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mmopii need an answer pliz12:05
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Frogzoommopi: viruses are almost _almost_ unknown in unix operating systems12:06
mmopiso unix is virus free...12:07
Frogzoommopi: definately did NOT say that, read again12:07
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paxnmopi, not if you code one.12:08
Frogzoommopi: the point of the matter is, unix's security model makes it extremely difficult to write working viruses12:08
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mmopiso what about the applications like accpac and vip payroll is it compatiable or not?12:09
DBOFrogzoo, more to the point, its not writing the virus that is the issue, its getting it to spread12:10
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LeaChimWhat's a good graphical program to turn a load of vob,ifo,bup files into the DVD they came from - they aren't in any sort of directory structure either12:11
Toma-LeaChim: throw it all in VIDEO_TS then make an ISO with the VIDEO_TS dir at the root, and try loading the ISO with mplayer12:11
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mmopiwhen it comes to networking,unix is user friendly now my problem is the applications to work with it.12:12
BuFFhow to kill a program for example xmms ?12:13
Toma-BuFF: use either xkill or 'killall xmms' in a terminal12:13
simpohi! i have problems with eth0 interface :/ its missing... i have all network card modules modprobed and my /etc/network/interfaces looks good, but there are no eth0, any ideas ?12:13
BuFFthanks12:14
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mmopifrogzoo, are online?12:14
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gyro_54hows this! my screensaver shuts down the monitor after 10 minutes. Then the monitor turns back on then the computer goes into blank standby with the monotor still powered up. Any suggetions?12:16
Toma-gyro_54: turn off DPMS in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:16
gyro_54Thanks12:17
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Frogzoommopi: if you want to run windows apps under linux, take a look at wine12:17
Toma-gyro_54: it MIGHT work :D12:17
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Toma-bbl.12:18
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redarrowok.. now this is a weird error: I added a "Modem Monitor" to the panel, right clicked and selected properties, it asked me for the root password... I must have entered it incorrectly cos it said "Incorrect password".. now every time I try select "properties" it says "You have eneterd an Incorrect password" - but it never asks for the password! ???12:18
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gyro_54It worked perfect until I changed to an ATI card12:19
redarrowany ideas?12:19
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Frogzoogyro_54: suggest you try the fglrx driver from the seveas repo, if your card supports it12:19
Frogzoo!tell gyro_54 about fglrx12:19
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Frogzooredarrow: remove it & readd to menu bar12:21
redarrowFrogzoo: I tried that.. I even removed it, logged out and readded it.. same result12:22
mmopifrogzoo i`m still waiting for my answer pliz!12:22
Frogzooredarrow: try dpkg -S to see where the passwd's being stored - however, ubuntu has no root password you know?12:22
IlokaaaasuI need help! I need to get my laptops tvout working, problem is that its not nvidia/ati card but intel one, using i81012:22
Frogzoommopi: ^^12:22
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mmopiis it compatiable with accpac and vip payroll or not?12:23
redarrowFrogzoo: what do you mean no root password? I most certainly was asked to specify one on installation..12:23
highvoltage!root12:24
ubotu[root]  Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.12:24
Frogzooredarrow: just that, there's no root passwd - check in /etc/shadow if you don't believe me12:24
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burepeHelp, my working tv tuner card lost video. Now I have sound and a black screen, More info here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=929416#post92941612:24
spikebno you aren't asked for a root password upon installing ubuntu12:25
morficare there experimental amd64 livecd that are newer than 5.10, maybe kernel, but mostly newer xorg?12:25
mmopifrogzoo, is unix compatiable with accpac or not?12:25
redarrowsorry.. not on my install.. I can Ctrl+Alt+F1 to terminal and log in as root12:25
Frogzoomorfic: take a look at dapper - but as it's beta atm, you might experience 'issues'12:25
redarrowand it is in /etc/shadow12:26
spikebbrb12:26
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morficFrogzoo: 5.10 livecd wont start X, can't be much worse12:26
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Frogzoommopi: I have no idea what kind of accpac is - it might run under wine, it might not - or the vendors might offer a linux version12:26
redarrowI installed "expert mode" btw12:27
Frogzoomorfic: truth be told, the performance of the 686 kernel is almost as good as a64, and everything works12:27
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Frogzoomorfic: also, your progs man page should document where the password is stored12:28
mmopiok, frogzoo now i get your point12:28
Gent_Anyone else here use xcompmgr on a regular basis?12:28
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morficFrogzoo: got a url on a dapper livecd? google so far only finds forum posts talking about it12:29
morfichttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-5/  got it12:30
hyphenatedflight-6 would be better right now. and #ubuntu+1 would be the right channel ;-)12:30
morficthanks frogzoo12:30
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morfichyphenated: oh, ok, thanks+112:30
Frogzoomorfic: yw12:31
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robin_test12:32
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robin_it works :)12:32
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Frogzoocan anyone suggest something like ping, but works with a destn mac address, not an IP?12:35
hyphenatedheh, that reads like the unit testing in the company I work at ;-) "test, test, fail. conclusion - it works"12:35
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hyphenatedFrogzoo: arping ?12:35
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Frogzoohyphenated: is there a pkg?12:36
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STiKi-Hello.12:36
hyphenatedFrogzoo: in universe, yes12:36
Frogzoohyphenated: installing now, thx12:36
STiKi-I12:36
STiKi-oops12:36
farthow do you disable clicking from the little black mouse thing on a laptop12:36
Frogzoofart: more details please?12:37
STiKi-I'd like to change a KDM theme. On kde-look.org it says to change ~/.kde/share/config/kdmrc. There's no such file. When I create it and paste what thay say anything happends.12:37
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STiKi-Is there some easy way to change KDM theme?12:37
fartfrogzoo the thing you glide your fingure arcossed12:38
fartits like a mouse12:38
Frogzoofart: and it you get a clicking sound through the speakers when you do that?12:38
shinuwhy when i use esddsp --mmap, the sound is kinda echoing?12:39
fartno when i move the pointer on my computer and take my fingar off that little black box it automaticaly clicks on whatever my mouse is over12:40
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hyphenatedI think he's trying to say his touchpad is too sensitive12:41
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hyphenatedand causes clicks when it shouldn't and he wants to turn that off12:41
Frogzoofart: please pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:41
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robin_test12:43
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valehruHi guys..12:44
valehruthis is prolly a stupid question..but how do I install apt?12:44
valehrudoesnt seem to be installed..12:45
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robin_valehur: nearly impossible12:45
robin_it is apt-get12:45
robin_not apt12:45
valehruahh12:45
whaley;-)12:46
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fartfrogzoo http://pastebin.com/66686412:46
Frogzoofart: maybe check: system -> preferences -> windows -> window selection   ??12:46
STiKi-where's the KDM conf file in ubuntu ?12:46
chavoSTiKi-, /usr/share//config/kdm12:47
robin_valehru and there are other apt applications, like apt-cache etc.., But I'm sure you can find those too ;)12:47
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Frogzoovalehru: there is no 'apt' - only 'apt-get apt-cache & aptitude'12:48
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STiKi-chavo: thx.12:48
chavonp12:48
fartfrogzoo tried it and nothing changed heh now my taskbars all messed up12:48
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Frogzoofart: was it set to off? that should be the default/what you want?12:49
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fartfrogzoo it was unchecked12:49
jendaWhat's a good way to tile images in Ubuntu? I have 8 pngs I'd like to connect into one...12:50
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tyrchyushi12:50
robin_hi12:51
Frogzoofart: also try: system -> preferences -> mouse -> motion -> drag & drop threshold & increase it12:51
tyrchyusI don't speak english veruy well but i have a problem with mercury12:51
fartfrogzoo ive already tried that12:51
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tyrchyusI've installed on my ubuntu breezy12:52
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tyrchyusbut when open don't start12:52
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Jimmey__tyrchyus, what's your native language?12:52
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tyrchyusitalian, but on ubuntu-it don't ask me12:53
stamen81hi gain:)12:53
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stamen81how can I make a restore from dapper to breezy using the original DVD of Kubuntu12:54
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stamen81how can I make a restore from dapper to breezy using the original DVD of Kubuntu12:55
redarrowfart: You might want to try adding this to your "Synaptics Touchpad" config section in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf:  Option "TapButton1" "0"12:55
LoCusFubotu tell stamen81 about repeat12:55
redarrowworked on my laptop12:55
forrestIs there any to remove packages that are dependencies of packages that have been removed? (Similar to emerge --depclean in gentoo)12:55
paxonce you go dapper, you don't go back :-)12:55
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fartredarrow does it matter what line i put it on?12:56
stamen81pax, are you kidding ?12:56
paxyes.12:56
stamen81pax, tell me please how to do thi12:56
paxI don't know.12:56
stamen81pax, this12:56
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stamen81:(12:56
redarrowfart: just put it after the last option (HorizScrollDelta)12:56
gyro_54I have 2 "device"sections ATI radeon 9550 in 1 and ATI graphics adapter 0 should I get rid of 1?12:56
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Peanutcan any one12:57
LaibschDoes ubuntu officially support Japanese?  I am talking about both display *and* input which is a bit more complicated for CJK languages.12:57
Peanut#ubuntu+112:57
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redarrowfart: alst try adding Option "TapButton1" "0" and Option "TapButton2" "0" under that..12:57
fartredarrow stupid question do i need to reboot12:58
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stamen81LoCusF, he told me :)12:58
redarrowfart: no.. just restart X ... Ctrl+Alt+Backspace ought to do the trick12:58
stamen81LoCusF, relax :)12:59
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nopcode_does ubuntu have fake-raid-support built-in?01:00
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nopcode_i read about a "feature specification" but dunno if it's in there yet01:00
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vincenzHello01:00
vincenzthis is rather urgent01:00
vincenzHow do I get ubuntu to use the output cable instead of lcd panel01:01
forrestcat I remove dependencies of packages that have already been removed?01:01
forrestCan01:01
LordBurritoG'day all.  Running Hairy Hedgehog.  Wondering why the Synaptic package manager *never* indicates that *any* packages are ever upgraded, even the security-oriented updates?01:01
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arrickMornin everyone01:02
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Frogzoovincenz: you using ati vid card?01:02
LoCusFlol :)01:02
martynhaz any of you tried XGL & compwiz on brezzy yet01:02
vincenzFrogzoo: yep01:02
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martynhave any of you tried XGL & compwiz on brezzy yet01:03
Frogzoovincenz: install fglrx-control & then use the fireglcontrolpanel01:03
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vincenzdo I need to update my x.org at all?01:04
plantpersonSo has Dapper been officially released?01:04
Frogzoovincenz: nope, should take care of it itself01:04
vincenzFrogzoo: thank you01:04
Frogzooplantperson: june 101:04
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Frogzoovincenz: gl01:05
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vincenzfireglcontrol-panel is not installed with fglrx-control01:05
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Frogzoovincenz: sure it is01:05
plantpersonFrogzoo: thanks01:05
vincenzFrogzoo: fireglcon <TAB> only gives fireglcontrol01:05
Frogzoovincenz: new terminal guy01:06
fyrestrtrvincenz: hit tab again01:06
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vincenznope01:06
Frogzoovincenz: well what does fireglcontrol do?01:06
conmiwebhi01:06
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vincenzhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/U2dl3h85.html01:06
vincenztha01:06
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Frogzoovincenz: maybe you're running the ati drivers, not fglrx?01:07
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vincenzcould be01:08
vincenzhow do I fix it?/01:09
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Frogzoovincenz: you may need to install the fglrx driver, read the pm from ubotu, it's pretty straightforward01:10
vincenzok01:10
Frogzoo!fglrx01:10
ubotufrom memory, fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto01:10
vincenzthx01:10
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vincenzgot a presentation in less than an hour01:11
vincenzand I need to use my laptop (open office presentaiton)01:11
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arrickmorning Frogzoo01:12
dj-fuIt's _very_ straight forward, install the driver, restricted modules for your kernel and then change the driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:12
Frogzooarrick: you still here :)01:12
arrickyeah01:13
arrickI just came bak on01:13
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arrickback even01:13
arrickhow are you today Frogzoo01:13
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Frogzoovincenz: well then you need to do this right - there's three commands in that howto and you're done, start from "Ubuntu provided drivers"01:14
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Ap4ch3hello :)01:15
ompaulompaul,01:15
ompauldoh!01:15
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vincenzIt works now thanks01:15
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vincenzthe only problem is the same problem I used to have01:15
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vincenzthe version on the big screen is a) offset to the left b) a virtual desktop (you can make it scroll around)01:16
Ap4ch3anyone here had problem mounting a ufs file system under breezy?....i keep getting ' ufs compiled as read only' error. Do I need a kernel module for ufs?01:16
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Frogzoovincenz: now run fireglcontrolpanel01:16
vincenznot found01:16
Frogzoovincenz: you on breezy?01:17
vincenzyep01:17
Frogzoovincenz: sudo apt-get install fglrx-control01:17
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vincenzit is installed01:18
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Frogzoovincenz: well remove & reinstall01:18
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Frogzoovincenz: dpkg --purge fglrx-control01:18
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vincenzI don't think it contains that app01:19
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vincenzonly fireglcontrol01:19
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vincenzwhich still gives the same Xlib error01:19
Frogzoovincenz: please just execute the commands01:19
Ap4ch3[4342782.187000]  ufs was compiled with read-only support, can't be mounted as read-write01:19
Ap4ch3wtf?01:19
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Ap4ch3kernel ver:  2.6.12-10-386 #101:20
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vincenzI did01:21
BoyDubaihow do i extract .tar.gz file?01:21
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BoyDubaii'm always confused with .deb/.tar/.tar.gz files....01:21
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dj-fu.tar/.tar.gz are usually source code, where as debs are precompiled packages01:22
dj-fu(binaries)01:22
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Frogzoovincenz: dpkg -L fglrx-control01:23
jendaBoyDubai: If you're used to windows, think of .deb as an .exe installer (except it's not executable ) and tar/tar.gz/tar.bz2 az .zip files01:23
Frogzoovincenz: now you should see there: /usr/bin/fireglcontrolpanel01:23
BoyDubaiok thanks!01:23
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jendaBoyDubai: and it's "tar -zxvf /path/of/package"01:24
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jendaBoyDubai: and "tar -jxvf /path/of/package" for .tar.bz201:24
Ap4ch3i tired doing 'modprobe ufs'...which worked...01:25
Ap4ch3but still get same error...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr01:25
BoyDubaijenda, how abt tar.gz? what's the difference bet .tar and .tar.gz?01:25
BoyDubaii'm confused.01:25
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Ap4ch3why is it so hard to mount a ufs drive in ubuntu??????01:25
FrogzooBoyDubai: easiest is to rename the file to blah.tgz, & then tar zxf blah.tgz01:26
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BoyDubaithanks!01:26
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vincenzFrogzoo: I think I know why01:26
Frogzoovincenz: did you read previous post? dpkg -L fglrx-control01:27
vincenzFrogzoo: no panel... I think it's just fireglcontrl.... either way I think the issue is in my x.org01:27
vincenzyes01:27
vincenzsorry was rebooting01:27
vincenzbut01:27
jendaBoyDubai: Think of it as different codecs. Tar is capable of putting many filies into one, gz and bz2 are compression mechanisms, each with its own pros&cons. So .tar will only group files, and tar.gz=tgz will compress them.01:27
vincenzI think it has to do with the fact that01:27
vincenzmy monitor entry says "ViewPort 0 0"01:27
vincenzin x.og01:27
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Frogzoovincenz: so do you see /usr/bin/fireglcontrolpanel ?01:27
vincenzno01:27
vincenzand I checked on the web01:27
vincenzthat package doesn't come with that file01:27
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bliss1_hey01:27
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jendaBoyDubai: I think that if you want to compress a huge file, you can make it file.gz, as there is no need for tar to stich it together, unlike when you have multiple files in a directory structure...01:28
Frogzoovincenz: oh, it may be a difference between the repos - this works for me, but I use the seveas repo01:28
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ubotuSeveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages01:28
BoyDubaiok01:28
BoyDubaithanks!01:28
jendaBoyDubai: np... I gotta run.01:28
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gilianimaIs it possible to have XGL with an Intel 915GM graphic card ?01:29
mjrgilianima, if it's supported by DRI, which I think it is, should be01:30
bliss1_if i filder say 940mb I want to use gzip2 to change it to an achieve whats is the command line please01:30
mjrgilianima, ie. if you generally have 3d acceleration available01:30
mjrgilianima, all features of XGL may not work though, like the accelerated video support01:31
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Frogzoovincenz: add the seveas repo & upgrade your fglrx01:31
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CaptainMorgan:-] 01:31
ax9ubuntu freezes after i choose the keyboard layout language01:31
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ax9on setup01:31
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kentisany postgresql or sql-ledger gurus in here please give me a shout01:33
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josemibuenas01:33
ax9ubuntu freezes after i choose the keyboard layout language01:34
ax9on setup01:34
kentis(CREATE SEQUENCE id start 1000001:35
kentis ERROR: relation "id" already exists) -> sql-ledger error, i have googled this one to death but come up empty, sql-ledger has little/no documentation01:35
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ArniaHi, having problems installing eclipse via synaptic. I get a slew of dependency errors I cannot resolve01:36
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ArniaIt seems they may stem from libswt-gtk-3.1-jni being there rather than libswt-3.1-gtk-jni01:37
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ArniaHmm... fixed it, but it required me to manually sort out the dependencies. Maybe something to check01:39
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Toma-what paper size is half of A4?01:41
FrogzooToma-: a501:41
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Toma-thx Frogzoo01:41
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kentisdoes anyone speak in here?01:45
kentislol01:45
patrick52222elo01:45
kentishas anyone here implemented sql-ledger?01:45
kentishowdy patrick01:45
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patrick52222sorry i cant help with sql as i dont know nout about it01:45
Arafangionkentis: The fact that the term exists implies that someone has implemented it.01:45
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kentisanyone _here_ arafangion01:46
Kolananyone with experience in using MegaRaid 105-4 controller with Ubuntu?01:46
bliss1_patrick52222: got it today thanks a bunch01:46
patrick52222blissl_: im glad you it01:47
kentiskolan is that an intel raid controller?01:47
Kolankentis: no01:47
MetaMorfoziScan i convert anyway .mds and .mdf (Alcohol 120%'s cd image) to .bin or any usable format?01:47
KolanLSI01:47
MetaMorfoziSlsi?01:48
Peregrine!01:48
MetaMorfoziSi check01:48
ubotuPeregrine: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:48
bliss1_patrick52222: may use it if I really need to01:48
Peregrinelol, oops01:48
MetaMorfoziS!lsi01:48
MetaMorfoziS:)01:48
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MetaMorfoziS01:48
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B0FH!sources01:49
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource01:49
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Kolanthe problem is that It installs fine, but seems slow01:49
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darxhi guys01:50
Kolanwhen I do a hdparm -Tt I only get about 1MB/s in buffered read01:50
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darxi've a networking problem01:50
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darxneed help01:50
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MetaMorfoziSKolan: you spoken to me "LSI"?01:51
darxis anyone listening?01:51
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MetaMorfoziSdarx: we are only seeing:)01:51
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darxvery funny01:52
darxha ha ha01:52
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MetaMorfoziSwhat you need?01:52
KolanMetaMorfoziS: LSI Logic SATA MegaRaid 150-4 is the name of the controller01:52
MetaMorfoziSok Kolan so not.:)01:52
robin_sry, again test01:52
robin_trying out, some new app ;)01:52
darxnetworking01:52
MetaMorfoziSAnd anybody knew about anything a program that can convert mdf to iso or sg?01:52
darxsorry for my crappy english01:53
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agliv5Greetings all :)  Unfortunately, I'm having problems burning a DVD, installing / running Licq & installing / running avinfo... don't suppose anyone could offer some advice?01:53
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bliss1_if you want to compress a directory with bzip2 is it bzip2 -z name of directory?01:54
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patrick52222where do i get a SFTP from01:54
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CyorxampLo, Anyone know of a good 'programming' editor - I'm after something thats both win&linux (but not written in java) and can provide syntax lookup, colour coding and other bits for all the major languages... any suggestions are welcome :P01:55
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gilianimais there a bash command that converts html entities like &#38463; into real characters (which is a chinese character in this case) ?01:55
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spikebhmm01:56
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DoatHi! I'm about to switch from Windows to Ubuntu but I need to resize my Windows partition to make free space for Ubuntu. What would be a safe and easy to use program to do this?01:56
ubuntupartionmagick01:57
ubuntusorry magickpartition01:57
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DoatThanks! I'll google for it01:57
agliv5Is it just me, or are there more questions being asked than answered?01:57
m_0_r_0_nHi, is it possible to disable the sound of the login window?01:57
spikebyes01:58
ubuntu_how do i compile and install modem driver to ubuntu?01:58
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patrick52222ok is it possible to upload files to my webserver from a work comp?01:58
spikebm_0_r_0_n, yes. system menu, administration, login screen setup, security tab01:58
DoatCyorxamp: i can't pm you because i'm not registered01:58
Cyorxampah lol01:59
Cyorxampis it a yes tho?01:59
Doati have the program already but it doesn't seem to work01:59
Doati think i need to reinstall it01:59
ubuntuubuntu_ dependes on the drivers, file type,01:59
ubuntubut it's always man tar01:59
agliv5Ok, let me try one problem at a time.... Anyone know about geting Licq to work?01:59
Cyorxampah ok - your easiest way is to just use the boot disk Doat02:00
osfansgilianima, to see the difference of "&" and "&amp;"02:00
patrick52222do i need a ftp server setup02:00
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Cyorxampforget about installing it - I never do02:00
forrestCan02:00
forrestCan I remove dependencies of packages that have already been removed?02:00
gilianimaosfans: what do you mean ?02:00
DoatCyorxamp: ok. so i must burn it on a cd and boot from it?02:00
spikebm_0_r_0_n, oops, it's the accessability tab, not the security tab02:00
osfansto display the character &, the html language is "&amp;"02:01
CyorxampDoat - no, I think when you install it, before it begins it asks you if you want to make an emergancy boot disk (floppy)02:01
osfansare you chinese, too? hehe.02:01
patrick52222Is it possible to upload files to my webserver from a work comp? if so wat do i need02:01
Doati don't have a floppy drive :)02:01
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m_0_r_0_nm_0_r_0_n, thanks, and how do I disable the sound when the system componenst are beeing loaded?02:01
bliss1_patrick52222: gftp02:02
patrick52222when i mean work i mean a comp not connected to my network02:02
DeBertI'm looking for applications with Gtalk's jingle support. Are there any?02:02
spikebDeBert, tapioca02:02
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CyorxampDoat - then I guess installing is your only option02:02
carlHey guys, I need a hand. How do I set proxy for console... as in I want all connections to go through the proxy...02:02
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CyorxampDoat - that or GParted (like PQMagic) which can be booted from a cd02:02
DeBertspikeb, are there any ubuntu packages in the repositories?02:02
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spikebm_0_r_0_n, preferences, sound, sound events tab, scroll way down until you see log in02:03
KheOpshello :)02:03
Sulle-hi02:03
bliss1_patrick52222: it you do not have it apt-get install gftp02:03
KheOpscould someone tell me how I can clone an Ubuntu installation onto another computer ?02:03
spikebDeBert, nope02:03
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Doatwell, i've used PartitionMagic before so i guess i'll just do with it.02:03
flithmhey everyone... installing ubunutu for the first time here.  Just curious, the installer didn't have any options for my wireless NIC.  What's the normal way of configuring a wireless card in ubuntu?02:03
carlanyone?02:03
_jasonubuntu: tell flithm about wireless02:03
DeBertspikeb, thx, i'll look if i compile it from source, although i have no idea how lol02:04
patrick52222blissl_: but i dont need to set my webserver to have a ftp server bit02:04
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flithm_jason, is ubuntu a bot?  he hasn't told me anything yet :)02:04
spikebDeBert, heh me either02:04
kentisDoat: warning -> I have had PartitionMagic eat my hard drive trying to resize partitions02:04
_jasonflithm: ah I just woke up, thanks :)02:04
kentisso make a backup with ghost or something02:05
_jasonubotu: tell flithm about wireless02:05
flithm_jason, thanks!02:05
spikebDeBert, http://tapioca-voip.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Tapioca is the website02:05
tdillmanhowdy all02:05
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bliss1_patrick52222: i bo use ftp but i assume you would need that I use ssh just for remote connection but gftp is the allpication02:05
KheOpswhat software shoud I use to clone an Ubuntu installation ?02:05
DeBertspikeb, thx02:05
bliss1_i do not use ftp02:05
spikebDeBert, there are breezy packages at the site, i just saw that.02:05
agliv5Ok, that didn't work out too well how about:  Anyone know what to do when k3b frezees every time I try to burn a DVD02:06
DeBertspikeb, to bad i use dapper...damn :)02:06
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spikebDeBert, check and see if it's in dapper02:06
spikebDeBert, might be...02:06
Cyorxampif you need another copy Doat (incase yours is duff) - http://www.uauanet.com.br/download/fo-pm8.exe02:06
Doatkentis: ghost?02:06
sfarHm, is there any good videoplayer-plugin to (the best browser) opera? :)02:06
tdillmanagliv5: have you tried freezing other programs, like gnomebaker?02:07
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DoatLarger partition support - Support for partition sizes up to 160GB <- my partition is 190GB >.<02:07
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DeBertspikeb, nope, it's not in dapper repos02:07
spikebbah02:07
spikebDeBert, well they have instructions on how to compile it02:08
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spikebDeBert, i also hear that kopete supports gtalk's voice now, but i have no idea what version02:08
DeBertspikeb, yeah i'll look into it, it's also a GTK app, which is nice02:08
agliv5@tdill I've tried gnomebaker; however you can't verify the data after it's burnt and it doesn't support multisession...02:09
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Doatnah. i'll try that GParted02:09
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Cyorxampdid u get my link Doat ?02:10
kingruedihi, I heard that HP has as special Ubuntu release for its laptops. Has anybody a link where to find it?02:10
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carlI need to set a proxy for apt-get but I have no clue how...?02:10
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ubuntucarl apt-cache search proxy02:11
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DoatCyorxamp: for gparted? no but i already found it02:11
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_jason!apt_proxy02:11
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ubotuapt_proxy is, like, for Apt via a http proxy, make a file called apt.conf in /etc/apt and put this in it...     Acquire::http::Proxy "http://PROXYADDRESS:PORT";02:11
Cyorxampno! Doat - http://www.uauanet.com.br/download/fo-pm8.exe02:11
juancahi everyone, where can I find a repository with libsexy for breezy?02:11
agliv5Anyone have any suggestions on how to determine the bit rate of an avi?02:11
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spikebgparted is better than partition maggot02:11
CyorxampDoat: thats another copy of what you have now02:11
Cyorxampincase your copy is broke02:11
ubuntu!info libsexy02:11
Doatyep. but i changed my mind. i'm going to use gparted02:12
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_jasonagliv5: mpalyer -identify file.avi02:12
juanca!info libsexy02:12
_jasonagliv5: s/mpalyer/mplayer02:12
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ubuntujuanca no such libsexy try searching for it on the ubuntu website02:13
spikebwww.chipx86.com/wiki/Libsexy02:13
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CyorxampA win&lin text editor (programming) supporting autocomplete, syntax colouring, and anything else nice, all major languages... any ideas?02:14
adiean ide? eclipse?02:15
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spikebyes. use the best text editor on each platform instead of looking for a cross platform solution.02:15
agliv5@_jason I can't get mplayer to install, all kinds of dependency conflikts...02:15
spikeb:P02:15
_jasonagliv5: do you want to fix that?02:15
ubuntu!tell agliv5 about mplayer02:15
spikeband autocomplete is an IDE function, not an editor function02:15
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XenguyCyorxamp: vim  ?02:15
spikebvim would be it, but it doesn't have autocomplete.02:16
Cyorxamplol not vim!02:16
CyorxampI CANT STAND VIM!02:16
spikebEMACS!02:16
CyorxampMove graphical would be nice :P02:16
CyorxampOR EMACS!02:16
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adieCyorxamp: :o02:16
spikebhahaha02:16
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spikebi can't really think of one that's cross platform, myself02:16
gnomefreakCyorxamp: install vim-gui-common if you want graphical vim02:16
agliv5I would greatly appricate if anyone could help me get mplayer running :)02:16
Cyorxampgnomefreak - yeah you lost the idea of the win element here02:16
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ubuntuagliv5 read the link that ubotu pasted you,02:17
CyorxampA win&lin text editor (programming) supporting autocomplete, syntax colouring, and anything else nice, all major languages... any ideas? (please, not vim or emacs)02:17
spikebvim has a gui for windows too i think02:17
spikebanyway im checking something out02:17
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gnomefreakspikeb: it does02:17
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agliv5Ok, I'll try it out and report back if I have problems ;)02:17
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haydenhhow can i make a new user with a password with one command?02:18
spikebnope, my idea is fail02:18
adieCyorxamp: you're really limiting your options, you need somehting horrible and heavy weight like eclipse... ti does what you want... tho something lightweight and native is always nicer.02:18
spikebi know that's not english, im going to bed02:18
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gnomefreakCyorxamp: there are not that many free ones that do all that for win i have blood-something  cant think of name off hand but its about the closest you will get i think its also named something with dev in it02:19
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gnomefreakeclipse will all/most plugins would be another good one02:20
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lflashlhi there im just a fresh N00b, how to i mount my fat32 drive and give user access to me on it02:20
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patrick52222How do i install a FTP Server and get it configured to let me in from off the network02:20
gnomefreakubotu tell lflashl about fat3202:20
tkjacobsenmount -t vfat /dev/hda# /mount/point02:21
ubuntu!tell patrick5222 about ftp02:21
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lflashlthanks02:21
patrick52222!ftp02:21
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd02:21
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tkjacobsen# is the number of the vfat partition02:21
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tkjacobsenremember to use sudo02:22
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gnomefreakyw02:22
patrick52222right im using proftpd, how do iset it up02:22
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haydenhis it possible to add a new user + password in only one command?02:22
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CyorxampHi I need a win&lin programming code editor supporting syntax colouring for major languages, and any other simple aids would be nice too (not vim, emacs, anything that deals with the web, stuff that makes guis please)... any ideas?02:24
Cyorxampoh and anything made using JAVA!02:24
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simonhaydenh: useradd or adduser, I'm not sure which since I'm not on ubuntu now02:24
hyphenatedhaydenh: why would you want to specify a password on the command-line?02:25
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gnomefreakCyorxamp: eclipse   and what do you mean uses internet?02:25
Cyorxampah in shit that deals with html or making webpages02:25
fyrestrtrCyorxamp: Cream02:25
gnomefreakfyrestrtr: dont think cream is ported for windows02:26
haydenhhyphenated: it wouldn't be in a 'command-line', i will be using it in a php script02:26
Cyorxampyou know fyrestrtr - a good search for cream isn't so helpful02:26
fyrestrtryeah it is, because I've used it there.02:26
adiehaydenh: I used to do that with a hacked passwd prog and a script/02:26
fyrestrtrCyorxamp: cream.sf.net02:26
fyrestrtrCyorxamp: what is your problem with Java?02:26
hyphenatedhaydenh: ok. sounds like a really good way to get your box hacked to bits ;-)02:26
Cyorxampthings running on the java vm tend to run slower02:26
simonhaydenh: from useradd man-page: -p, --password PASSWORD02:26
CyorxampI just don't want it while I am programming02:27
fyrestrtrhaydenh: err, no, no and again, no.02:27
simonhaydenh: and I agree with hyphenated02:27
fyrestrtrCyorxamp: ermm maybe you need to re-visit some java applications.02:27
fyrestrtrCyorxamp: I don't have any problems with java applications running slow.02:27
Cyorxampthats nice for you02:27
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lflashlnice and how to i get mplayer with apt-get02:28
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gnomefreakCyorxamp: since our answers are not what you want try google or #windows maybe they use something that will help you in windows02:28
fyrestrtrand I wish you luck if you are trying to find a windows+linux editor ... and one not written in java :)02:28
gnomefreakubptu tell lflashl about mplayer02:28
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fyrestrtr!tell lflashl about mplayer02:28
gnomefreaklol ty02:29
fyrestrtr:)02:29
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fyrestrtrCyorxamp: I found one for you.02:29
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BubbWhen i try my newly built kernel i end up in something called busybox? It complains about my harddrive, but original kernel works. The configfile was taken from the original one..02:29
fyrestrtrBubb: busybox is a wm.02:30
fyrestrtrBubb: what did you want to end up in?02:30
seliniumCyorxamp, Take a look at http://www.nvu.com/02:30
gnomefreakvery very slime one too02:30
gnomefreakselinium: i thought he didnt want html02:30
hyphenatedslime? :-)02:30
Bubbfyrestrtr, I end up in busybox during boot, the kernel don?t even start loading modules02:30
Cyorxampffs - enough crap - actually read what I put...02:30
CyorxampLo, I need a Win+Lin code editor supporting syntax colouring for many programming languages, other simple aids would be good too (not vim, emacs, guis makers, things than run on the java vm) any ideas?02:30
void^busybox is a tiny shell, don't confuse it witgh fluxbox/openbox/blackbox02:30
fyrestrtrselinium: he wants something that has nothing to do with web.02:31
BubbI followed this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto02:31
fyrestrtrvoid^: yeah :) I am confused myself.02:31
gnomefreakCyorxamp: please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic02:31
seliniumThat's not how I read it.... :) Blind I must be!02:31
patrick52222has any installed vsftpd02:31
Toma-Anyone know or have a GPL font that looks nice at 180pixels and is formal running-writing? :/02:31
fyrestrtrpatrick52222: one of them as a gui control center, but I forgot which one. Synaptic or apt-cache can help you find which one.02:31
fyrestrtrToma-: 'running-writing' ???02:32
Toma-ummm, flowing writing?02:32
hyphenatedfyrestrtr: script02:32
Bubbvoid^, Do you know what might be wrong? Im not a noob, been using *nix for several years.02:32
fyrestrtryou mean cursive? script?02:32
Toma-lots of squiggles :D02:32
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fyrestrtrToma-: I think X comes with one, but 'looks nice' is kinda subjective.02:32
fyrestrtrexample : I think my handwriting looks nice.02:33
void^Bubb: wrong root= on kernel command line, wrong modules in initrd, perhaps no initrd needed at all..02:33
Toma-fyrestrtr: well, most get pixelated at 180 px02:33
SirKillalothow can I make firefox display normal C files and not download them?02:33
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Bubbvoid^, Well the make-kpkg made an initrd for me and the root parameter is correct.02:33
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fyrestrtrToma-: you might need to AA them -- and try to find one that's sans-serif (without the edges). What are you trying to do? graphics work?02:33
void^Bubb: i have no experience with automated kernel/initrd build tools :/02:34
BubbIt is exactly like the original kernel in grub (menu.lst)02:34
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fyrestrtrSirKillalot: assign an editor to them in gnome.02:34
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SirKillalotfyrestrtr, no I wan it to open in firefox02:34
fyrestrtrBubb: that is just a bootloader line, if your kernel isn't compiled with the right modules, etc. it won't work.02:34
Bubbvoid^, Me neither :) I never liked them.. I guess i try the "real" way :)02:34
fyrestrtrSirKillalot: edit the firefox mime type listing from preferences.02:34
_jasonSirKillalot: the server has to send the content as a plain text file02:34
Bubbfyrestrtr, The kernel is based on the orignal ubuntu kernel....02:34
Toma-fyrestrtr: yeh, writing up a poem from a eulogy and need a nice font. Under Gimp i have Chancery at 190px with AA and still looks terrible02:34
patrick52222can some help me setup Vsftpd, please it installed but i just have to set it up02:35
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fyrestrtrpatrick52222: read the documentation, or look it up on the web. Its not that difficult. Just a file to edit.02:35
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hyphenatedToma-: why so large?02:36
patrick52222Fyrestrtr: is says i have to edit this  vi /usr/local/etc/vsftpd.conf   but when i put that my terminal goes blank with aload of these   02:37
hyphenatedpatrick52222: what says to edit that?02:37
Toma-hyphenated: going to get it printed up. so im working with big resolutions02:37
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hyphenatedpatrick52222: the instructions are probably oriented around where files exist if you build from source02:37
patrick52222http://www.vsftpd.org/package/02:37
whyamiis there any way to stop Serpentine from opening every time I stick in a blank dvd?02:38
hyphenatedpatrick52222: if you installed the vsftpd package that ubuntu provides, it'll be in /etc/vsftpd.conf02:38
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slackernI just managed to install with a 5.04 disc, all should be ok if i just do a dist-upgrade to breezy after changing sources.lists i take it?02:39
hyphenatedslackern: yes02:39
ompaulCyorxamp, Language - you know the drill - keep it polite02:39
whyamiI thought 5.04 was breezy.02:39
slackernahh good, darn almost same colors on those discs so i mixed up the old with the new one *ashamed*02:39
_jasonubotu: tell slackern about upgrade02:39
slackern.02:39
_jasonwhyami: nope, breezy is 5.1002:39
whyamioh yeah. sorry02:39
] Matic[hi guys. i need help to make my ati radeon x600 to work properly here02:39
slackern5.04 is hoart02:39
slackernhoary02:40
ompaul!tell ] Matic[ about ati02:40
ompaul] Matic[, please read the message from the bot thanks02:40
seliniumCyorxamp, You have a funny way of asking for assistance.02:40
carlHmm... the proxy should go in /etc/apt/config.d it seems... but I don't have such a file.02:40
] Matic[thank you02:40
Cyorxampand you have a funny way of giving it02:40
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_jasonubotu: tell Cyorxamp about attitude02:41
CyorxampSHUT THE FUCK UP!02:41
ompaultut tut02:41
CyorxampThis was over 10 minutes ago02:41
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CyorxampWAKE UP!02:41
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CyorxampDo something ELSE02:41
ompaulOi chill02:41
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CyorxampIf you spend more time HELPING not TROLLING maybe this would not be the situation02:42
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hyphenatedhmm, that's the first time I've seen a ban in here :-)02:42
Toma-ive seen too many02:43
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hyphenatedI must miss out on most of the more interesting characters that come along :-)02:43
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ompauljsgotangco, morning02:44
gnomefreakgm ompaul02:45
lgcHello: can anyone help me with a hoary->Breezy update problem?02:45
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ompaulgnomefreak, morning02:45
_jasonlgc: what problem are you having?02:45
slackernIm doing one of those right now too lgc.02:45
hyphenatedlgc: sure, if you describe the problem ;-)02:45
gnomefreaklgc: tell us a lil about the problem and we will see02:45
jsgotangcoompaul, hi!02:45
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hyphenatedslackern: I did a hoary -> breezy update a couple of months ago, and didn't have a single hiccup. just FYI02:46
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lgc_jason, thanks. I see you work day and night! The problem is that I get an error: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/passwd_1%3a4.0.3-37ubuntu8_i386.deb (--unpack):02:46
lgc cannot access archive: No such file or directory02:46
lgcErrors were encountered while processing:02:46
lgc /var/cache/apt/archives/passwd_1%3a4.0.3-37ubuntu8_i386.deb02:46
lgcE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:46
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ompaullgc, can you use paste.ubuntu-nl.org in future when you ahve a large amount of data (more than two lines)02:46
gnomefreaklgc: please dont paste in here please use pastebin02:46
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hyphenatedlgc: put your sources.list in a pastebin too, please :-)02:47
lgcompaul, gnomefreak what is that? How can I use it?02:47
] Matic[how can i see in which installed packet a local file is part of ?02:48
ompaullgc, it is a web site you paste into it02:48
hyphenatedlgc: load up http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org in a web browser02:48
lflashlnot to be mean but that site did not help me at all02:48
_jason] Matic[: dpkg -S file02:48
lflashli just want to use apt-get for mplayer02:49
] Matic[tnx02:49
_jasonlflashl: have you enabled multiverse?02:49
lflashlum it told me about it but not how to run it02:49
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gnomefreaklflashl: sudo apt-get install mplayer-arch   arch being whatever arch you use (i386 ect.)02:50
_jasonlflashl: therse should be a link to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:50
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gnomefreakit tells you on the mplayer site i sent you how to install it lflashl02:50
] Matic[and if i lose a file (accidentally deleted) of packet XXX how can i recover it ?02:50
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lflashlso k7(AMD 2200+) would be i38602:50
_jason] Matic[: reinstall the package maybe?02:50
gnomefreaklflashl: i dont think so02:51
] Matic[yes. how ?02:51
gnomefreaklflashl: what does uname -r say02:51
_jason] Matic[: sudo aptitude reinstall packagename02:51
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lgchyphenated, ompaul gnomefreak , it's there!02:51
conmiwebhi what dows mean "flickering"?02:51
] Matic[sorry, i never used an apt-based system :)02:51
] Matic[tnx02:51
gnomefreakaccidently deleted it to trash or off pc totally02:51
gnomefreaklgc: can we have the link after you hot send?02:52
] Matic[i rename it and i really cannot recover !02:52
gnomefreaks/hot/hit02:52
] Matic[i did "mv libGLcore.a ~" to move it in my home02:52
] Matic[but it created a file called "~" in the same directory02:52
] Matic[any attempt to rename it again failed02:52
lgcgnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1250002:52
gnomefreak] Matic[: ~/02:52
] Matic[i didn't care02:52
gnomefreak^^^ would be home02:53
void^mv \~ bla02:53
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] Matic[now i know02:53
] Matic[but i really cannot move that file anymore !:)02:53
_jason] Matic[: what void^ said should work02:53
lgcgnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1249802:53
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gnomefreak] Matic[: next time i would use cp its safer ;)02:53
] Matic[naah.. i know what i do02:54
slackernhave you tried going to your homefolder and doing mv ./~ newfilename02:54
gnomefreaklgc: uncomment the last 2 lines than run sudo apt-get update let me know of any errors02:54
LaibschDoes ubuntu officially support Japanese?  I am talking about both display *and* input which is a bit more complicated for CJK languages.02:54
Al-Dajabbl02:54
meniskhey ppl... Just a query how do u think ubuntu will run on a 1.2ghz processor...fine?02:54
lonewolffyeah will run fine02:54
gnomefreakmenisk: it better im running it on a 450mhz02:54
_jasonmenisk: fine, depends more on ram02:54
void^menisk: depends on the memory, as always02:54
] Matic[the file was not moved in my home02:55
] Matic[it remained there..02:55
meniskcool how will it run on a 166mhz with 128mb ram?02:55
gnomefreakmenisk: not so hot but should run02:55
] Matic[with \uffff~ name02:55
void^menisk: use plain debian with fluxbox or xfce02:56
lgcgnomefreak, you mean uncommenting the last 2 lines of "sources.list" and then rerun?02:56
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gnomefreakmenisk: server install should run fine on that02:56
gnomefreaklgc: yes02:56
] Matic[btw, this is not the problem02:56
lgcgnomefreak, let me do that...02:56
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meniskso will it run better than 98 or is 98 more suited to a bloody solow machinre02:57
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gnomefreaklgc: wait02:57
_jasonmenisk: it will probably run fine with fluxbox or something like that02:57
gnomefreaklgc: while your in there take the mx. away from the security repos please02:57
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PuMpErNiCkElmenisk: You may find a lighter-weight distro will perform as well/better than 98.  I recommend Xubuntu.02:58
techtiumpouvez vous me filer le chan pour dapper svp ?02:58
PuMpErNiCkEl!fr02:58
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.02:58
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meniskTu parle anglais?02:58
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techtiumallo02:58
Sulle-hi02:59
techtiumsvp pour avoir de l'aide sur dapper c'est o ?02:59
lgcmj02:59
gnomefreaktechtium: join #ubuntu-fr please02:59
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meniskOUI?02:59
ompaul!fr03:00
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:00
DutchyIm terribly bored and I was wondering if you'd know any 'fun' programs I want to install on my fresh ubuntu? :)03:00
gnomefreakdefine fun03:00
PuMpErNiCkElDutchy: Try BZflag :)03:00
lgcgnomefreak, lots of errors!03:01
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gnomefreaklgc: please paste them on pastebin03:01
Dutchyfun, as in '1337' or fun as in 'better than the default' or w/e... and whats BZflag :)03:01
PuMpErNiCkElDutchy: www.bzflag.org explains it better than I could03:02
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Dutchy*click*03:02
lgcgnomefreak, I take that back. I did something stupid...it's fine now so far.03:02
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lgcgnomefreak, I did "apt-get -d dist-upgrade" last night so I don't have to download anything. Should I proceed online or offline?03:04
gnomefreaklgc: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:04
Dutchywasnt exactly looking for a game but BZFlag sounds fun anyway :)03:04
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lgcgnomefreak, yes, but online or offline?03:04
gnomefreakonline03:05
lgcgnomefreak, or it doesn't matter...03:05
gnomefreaklgc: online03:05
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slackernAhh that did it, running fine with breezy now, just had to do the "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to get X to show up properly again on this ATi card just as the howto said, thanks for the help.03:05
PuMpErNiCkElDutchy: Careful, it can be addictive. :)03:05
maherdoes the live cd come with sshd?03:05
DutchyFFS i just quit WoW, i dont need anything addictive03:06
flithmhey everyone... I'm trying to install a wireless NIC driver and the driver requires that /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build have a Makefile in it that rebuilds modules.  I found a tutorial about getting breezy badger to work with this particular driver, but I don't have a /lib/modules/.../build dir.  Do I have to apt-get something... did I miss a step?  Anyone know what I've done wrong?03:06
PuMpErNiCkElDutchy: It's not quite that addictive.  It's more like solitaire than anything, that way... just drop in on a game in any spare tiem you have.03:06
lgcgnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1250103:07
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Dutchyok ill try it then :)03:07
agliv5I'm trying to install mplayer and I followed the instructions in the wiki, but I can't find the .mplayer directory to edit the config file... :( ?03:07
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Dutchyi just quit wow, because school and 6 hours of WoW didnt go together very well03:07
Kolananyone with experience in using MegaRaid 105-4 controller with Ubuntu?03:08
gnomefreaklgc: sudo apt-get -f install        <<<just like that no packages or nothing03:08
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gnomefreakbrb03:09
sergeHow can I see the current version of gnome?03:10
slackernSystem -> About gnome03:10
sergeTa03:10
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KenSentMeagliv5: directories that begin with a . , like .mplayer are standard not visible. When you make them visible in the view-menu you can see and enter then03:10
binaif you have DVI and normal monitor output (not sure what thats called) on your GFX Card, is it possible to have two monitors plugged in hand use them as two desktops?03:11
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binausing the Ubuntu radeon drivers03:11
lgcgnomefreak, this one is all over the place: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1250303:12
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agliv5@KenSentMe I can see all the other . Directories... and in the terminal under root it says that the directory doesn't exist03:12
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gnomefreaklgc: you didnt read the docs on how to upgrade did you?03:13
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gnomefreaklgc: your missing something you need from hoary03:13
lgcgnomefreak, I only know what good-intentioned people like you have told me...03:14
agliv5Anyone else want to try and help me out installing mplayer?03:14
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bolrod./configure03:14
bolrodmake03:14
bolrodmake install03:14
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bolrodor checkinstall03:14
guillem101How can I add a new file type (is that called mime-type?)03:14
guillem101s/add/declare03:14
gnomefreaklgc: change you repos back to hoary and run apt-get update (we are gonna try to fix this may not beable to)03:14
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jauhelihaokay my ubuntu install is giving me errors and i cant boot windows anymore (its Doat)03:14
agliv5@bolrod who are you talking to?03:15
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bolrodif you want everything of mplayer to work03:15
bolrodI suggest reading the manual on mplayer site and compile it from source03:15
gnomefreak!mplayer03:15
ubotusomebody said mplayer was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106103:15
lgcgnomefreak, the install "finished" without further errors...03:15
gnomefreaklgc: what install? the sudo apt-get -f install?03:16
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lgcgnomefreak, indeed.03:16
Dutchyoooh btw whats the linux equivalent to windows alt-tab?03:17
gnomefreaklgc: now run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade see if it pulls anything else in03:17
carlos_hi, i need config my samba, how i can.03:17
agliv5It's great that you send me the wiki link on how to install, but I followed that guide and it apparently didn't work as it should have...03:17
gnomefreakDutchy: alt-tab03:17
Dutchydidnt work for me... at least not when i was in bzflag03:17
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lgcgnomefreak, don't you tell me it's going to try and download everything again?03:18
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gnomefreakbzflag i dont know what it is nor what it does but the alt+tab keys switches the apps or pages im looking at03:18
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gnomefreaklgc: yes it is going to install anything it needs to finish if nothing than tahts better03:18
Dutchydoes it normally work for fullscreen apps? bzflag is a game03:19
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gnomefreakDutchy: i dont know about games but should unless the games have a different key bind03:19
gnomefreakbinding03:19
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jauhelihayay it ran without errors \o/03:20
gnomefreakjauheliha: depending on what you were trying to do i hope thats good03:20
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lgcgnomefreak, what I fear is that it's going to download 817 MB of data again, instead of just what it needs to complete the install!03:20
B0FH!sources03:20
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ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource03:20
gnomefreaklgc: it will install anything not installed to complete upgrade03:21
jauhelihanow it's asking which kernel to install: linux-386, linux-image-386, linux-image-2.6.12-9-38603:21
lgcgnomefreak, that's why I asked if I should do that offline...03:21
jauheliha*???*03:21
gnomefreaklgc: if tapt-get already downloaded everything it will check and than just install03:21
gnomefreaklgc: no i said online not offline03:21
guillem101!mime03:21
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, guillem10103:21
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jauhelihawhich should i select? or does it matter?03:22
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gnomefreakjauheliha: it gives you an option or it says its gonna install them all03:22
jauhelihait gives an option03:22
jauhelihai have to choose one of those03:22
gnomefreakjauheliha: go with the last one03:22
jauhelihaok ty03:22
carlos_i'am a new user of ubuntu, somebody can help me about samba ?03:22
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gnomefreakwth lol i guess he was banned03:23
agliv5thanks to all who helped me install mplayer :)  Don't ask me how I did it, but it's working now ;)03:24
Hobbseegnomefreak: weird.  wonder why that was..03:24
lgcgnomefreak, it's downloading all the libraries...seems to me it's going to do it all afresh...03:24
gnomefreakapt-get install mplayer-386 :(03:24
jauhelihaah ffs.. right after i chose the last one it gave an error :S03:25
jauhelihasomething about initrd03:25
gnomefreakHobbsee: not sure but im thinking since chanserv is a freenode thing he or his domain is banned from freenode maybe03:25
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Hobbseegnomefreak: must be03:25
gnomefreakjauheliha: what are you trying to do?03:25
jauhelihainstall ubuntu03:26
gnomefreakjauheliha: from disk?03:26
jauhelihafrom cd yes03:26
gnomefreakjauheliha: default install?03:26
tonyyarussoHow can I find out file sizes in groups on the terminal, or say check the size of each top-level subfolder of / ?03:26
jauhelihayes03:26
gnomefreakjauheliha: you shouldnt have to pick a kernel for default install03:26
jauhelihaand now it's asking the thing about kernels again03:26
gnomefreakit should pick it for you03:26
jauhelihayea i think it's asking because the first time it gave an error03:26
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valehruargh...what the hell....Im unable to see my filesystem in gnome at all..03:27
jauhelihai chose the last one and it gave the same error03:27
valehruand I am unable to do anything on my desktop..03:27
jauhelihai'll try the second one now. brb03:27
gnomefreakjauheliha: do you get to choose again?03:27
valehruall the icons have dissappeared..03:27
valehruany ideas?03:27
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gnomefreakvalehru: i never had icons on my desktop can you not go to places>home>filesystem?03:28
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valehruI did and then I rebooted03:28
MisterNhi03:28
valehrubut now within places>home>filesystem I have the Desktop, Search for FIles and recent documents03:29
valehrunothing else03:29
valehruEverything just has gone missing03:29
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jauhelihaok i tried the second one (linux-image-386 or semothing) same error.03:29
gravesoni had endless problems with the ati driver - and tried it all from the ubuntu provided to the ati provided driver with no luck. now i am back to start from scratch.what would be the best approach03:30
hieuvohow to uninstall UBUNTU safely from my system please03:30
valehruI can see all of the files through the console03:30
simonpcaplop03:30
valehrubut not through gnome03:30
jauheliha"couldn't install initrd-tools"03:30
gnomefreakjauheliha: i would say start over again jauheliha03:30
adie hieuvo with a hammer on your hdd!03:30
tonyyarussohieuvo: What do you mean by safely?03:30
slackernwget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb03:30
slackern from following the guide to get all codecs running but im getting permission denied on it.03:30
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gnomefreakslackern: use sudo03:30
jauhelihaok. this was the second try. the first try ended with a different error03:30
hieuvotonyyarusso, mean it wont damage my windows XP and FC03:30
valehruany ideas?03:30
valehruits really strange..03:30
valehruperhaps installing kde would do the trick...03:31
slackernoh haha, darn braindead today, thanks.03:31
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tonyyarussohieuvo: Ah, okay.  You can always still wipe the partition.03:31
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hieuvothen fix the  grub?03:31
hieuvothat it?03:31
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tonyyarussohieuvo: Should be, that is if grub is in FC.  If you're wiping grub off, that makes it an extra step.03:31
thoreauputic!tell slackern about w32codecs03:32
hieuvohmm im not sure where is my grub really03:32
gnomefreakhieuvo: /boot/grub/menu.lst03:32
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tonyyarussohieuvo: That would be good to know.  Look for /boot/grub in each filesystem.03:32
hieuvotonyyarusso,  it was on FC but when i install ubuntu it asked me to install grub and i did...so i guess it is on Ubuntu partition?03:32
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gnomefreakmore than likely its on mbr ;)03:32
adiehas anybody got x86 mplayer working under qemu with w32 codecs on ppc yet?03:32
gnomefreakbrb03:33
schtinkydo /boot and swap need to be raided to make my RAID setup one-disk fail-safe?03:33
tonyyarussohieuvo: Yeah.  But you have it installed in FC, so you can still fix it from there and have it all back.03:33
thoreauputicslackern: hmm - seems like the same URL, sorry03:33
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slackernOh, no worries it was just me being stupid standing in a folder without write permissions.03:33
thoreauputicslackern: ah :)03:33
adiehieuvo: fdisk /mbr used to work with windows 3.x and 9x to rewrite the boot sector.03:34
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tonyyarussoMy du is definitely nutty.  Sure, I'd like Windows XP to be 1.2 GB...03:34
hieuvowhere is MBR located?03:34
DBOon... the master boot record...03:34
adiein the first 512bytes of an x86 disc03:34
adieor of the relevent partition.03:34
domshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12504 his my problem03:35
DBOsector 1 =)03:35
slackernIn xp you need to boot up from the xp cd and run the rescue mode and from the prompt there do fixboot and/or fixmbr commands03:35
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domswhat software do we used to make a remote desktop like WAN03:35
gnomefreakubotut ell hieuvo about mbr03:35
gnomefreakubotu tell hieuvo about mbr03:35
tonyyarussoslackern: No, he doesn't want a Windows one.03:35
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gnomefreakoops i forgpt i never did add it :(03:36
hieuvoubotu, yeah please03:36
ubotuhieuvo: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:36
gnomefreakhieuvo: mbr=master boot record its the first part of master hd03:36
luciaHi. does precompiled Ubuntu v.510 kernel has devpts support?03:36
hieuvognomefreak, yeah i know that but really i never seen it before!03:37
hieuvohmm is it in a file or something? how to look what inside it hehe03:37
gnomefreakhieuvo: you cant see it03:37
gnomefreakhieuvo: the mbr tells the bios what type of boot you have03:38
tonyyarussoWell, you could dd it to a file, but that would be pretty useless if you actually want to read it.03:38
Doatgnomefreak: it's giving the same error about initrd-tools even after i booted03:39
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gnomefreakhieuvo: like if you have winxp and ubuntu installed with grub on mbr the mbr will tell bios that it has grub on it and the bios display the grub menu (simple terms)03:39
gnomefreakDoat: did you start install over?03:39
hieuvognomefreak, so when ubuntu ask me to install grub..what happen if i wipe out ubuntu partition?03:39
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Doatyes03:39
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hieuvoit still boot up as grub?03:39
gnomefreakDoat: make sure your md5sum is correct and make sure you burnt it at lowest speed possible03:39
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agliv5anyone feel up to helping me with Licq? or burning a multisession DVD?03:40
gnomefreakhieuvo: is ubuntu on first part of hd or on master hd?03:40
Doatwell i checked md5sum but burned with max speed03:40
Warbohieuvo: If Ubuntu gets wiped then GRUB will still try to load. You can easily restore the Windows MBR, or you can even still use GRUB if you put "/boot" on a different partition when you install Ubuntu03:40
gnomefreakagliv5: sorry i wish i could that would mean i would know how lol03:40
Doatand it's hard to burn again because i can't boot to windows anymore :/03:40
hieuvognomefreak, no..1st part of hd is XP, then 2nd part is FC then 3rd part is ubuntu03:41
gnomefreakhieuvo: than grub will stay on mbr03:41
m_0_r_0_nWhat is the meaning of functions in the programming languaage C with a preceding _ in its name?03:41
gnomefreakhieuvo: on know03:41
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gnomefreakoh no03:41
agliv5I wish I could / new how too ;)03:41
gnomefreakhieuvo: what version of fc do you have?03:41
hieuvo503:41
mineraleHow can I see what application is listening to what port?03:42
Warbohieuvo: Do you use one version of GRUB for FC and Ubuntu?03:42
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gnomefreakhieuvo: i know fc1-4 and ubuntu never worked well together with grub no matter what one was installed first or where it was installed you will always lose grub (its there but it wont show both if it shows at all)03:42
nhoj#ubuntu-br03:42
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gnomefreaknhoj: /j #ubuntu-br03:43
hieuvoWarbo, that is im not sure...because i was using grub from FC until i install Ubuntu and it ask me if i want to install GRUB and i said yes so i guess it is ubuntu grub now because the color of screen changed03:43
thoreauputichieuvo: you probably installed the ubuntu grub to MBR then03:44
Warbognomefreak: How could hieuvo install GRUB to a partition for chainloading with the MBR GRUB? Then FC and Ubuntu will be on different GRUBs and won't overwrite each other03:44
valehruHey ..03:44
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valehruI have Ubuntu 5.10 DVD...Want to install KDE from the terminal line03:44
hieuvothoreauputic, yeah i think so too...how do i remove Ubuntu and come back to FC grub then?03:44
thoreauputichieuvo: why do you want the FC grub? Is it prettier ? ;-)03:45
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valehruI did sudo apt-cdrom add03:45
Warbovalehru: The command "sudo apt-get install kde" or maybe use "kubuntu-desktop" instead of kde03:45
valehru; and then I tried looking for kubuntu which I suppose is kde for ubuntu03:45
Doati checked the validity of the cd and it found a mismatch in some file... could this be just some dirt on the cd?03:45
hieuvothoreauputic, not that but im gona wipe ubuntu partition so i need grub to boot up right?03:45
thoreauputicvalehru: use kubuntu-desktop03:45
thoreauputichieuvo: if grub is on the MBR it isn't going to disappear03:46
thoreauputichieuvo: unless you wipe the mbr03:46
valehruso it would be sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:46
valehruwill that be on the DVD or will I have to download it from the net?03:46
thoreauputicvalehru: yes03:46
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valehruyes its on the DVD or yes its on the net03:47
valehru?03:47
gnomefreakvalehru: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop please03:47
thoreauputicvalehru: I don't know if it's on the DVD03:47
fliegenderfroschfor a new install on a notebook: should I use dapper or breezy? For dapper seems to be pretty stable...03:47
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Warbohieuvo: It is quite easy to run a different GRUB for your different Linux systems, just chainload the second GRUB like you chainload Windows. The only problem is I don't know how to install the second GRUB on a prtition instead of the MBR03:47
lgcgnomefreak, why is it (seemingly) downloading everything again?03:47
munzirHi, I want to do an install from a central server. So I downloaded an iso, extracted it's content to /var/www/ubuntu, is this enough?03:47
thoreauputicgnomefreak: preferable perhaps, but not necessary03:47
hieuvohmm may be best i should do now is install grub again on FC then wipe the Ubuntu then pray when reboot haha03:48
gnomefreakDapperDrake: is going to change alot in next month or so (stable is term that it can break at any time -not is broken right now)03:48
valehrunope kubuntu-desktop is not on the dvd03:48
thoreauputicvalehru: my response was probably lagged03:48
gnomefreakthoreauputic: i say aptitude due to when going to uninstall your not sitting theree uninstalling ever app by hand03:48
thoreauputicgnomefreak: I know why you said it :)03:48
gnomefreakoops didnt mean to typw that to dapper :(03:48
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valehruAs for aptitude ...Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "kubuntu-desktop"03:49
thoreauputicgnomefreak: aptitude is  smarter than apt-get03:49
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gnomefreakvalehru: enable repos03:49
gnomefreakthoreauputic: yep ;) i still only use it for DE tho03:49
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gnomefreaki should really use it more03:49
thoreauputic!tell valehru about repos03:49
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Warbohieuvo: If you use GRUB's command line (I think pressing "c") then you can boot whichever distro you want. Just use "root (hd0,0)" for 1st partition first drive (sustitute your own here) and the kernel will begin with vmlinuz. You can use <tab> to complete the file name03:50
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gnomefreakiirc kubuntu is in maqin repo03:50
gnomefreakmain*03:50
gnomefreak!info kubuntu-desktop03:50
ubotukubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.55 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 36 kB03:50
gnomefreakyep ;)03:50
thoreauputicvalehru: were you not connected to the Net when you installed?03:50
valehruI was03:50
thoreauputicgnomefreak: I think he needs to uncomment sources anyway03:51
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thoreauputicvalehru: then kubuntu-desktop should be found03:51
thoreauputicvalehru: do you get any output from  apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop ?03:51
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agliv5Can anyone help me out with k3b freezing when trying to burn a DVD?03:52
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Grout58have u tried another burner app to see if it still does it?03:52
thoreauputicagliv5: run it from a terminal to see what errors you get03:52
gnomefreakthoreauputic: its normally a good idea if he has net connection but i thought he was using dvd because of non net03:53
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valehruwhats the aptitude repo information?03:53
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Xanaheya03:53
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thoreauputicvalehru: aptitude show kubuntu-desktop03:54
Xanasynaptic isn't coming up with the xmms themes that used to be on there, anyone know if I am missing a repo?03:54
agliv5@thoreauputic all kinds of errors, let me specify in a private message session if you don't mind03:54
luciahi. does anyone knows how to enable devpts support with Ubuntu?03:54
thoreauputicagliv5: no, use the pastebin please03:54
thoreauputic!pastebin03:54
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126903:54
thoreauputicvalehru: or di you mean /etc/apt/sources.list ?03:55
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agliv5@thorea ok working on it ;)03:55
erUSULlucia: do you mean this:03:56
thoreauputicoh, netsplit :(03:56
erUSUL/dev/pts/003:56
erUSUL/dev/pts/103:56
erUSUL/dev/pts/203:56
erUSUL/dev/pts/303:56
thoreauputicdon't paste03:56
erUSULsorry03:56
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B0FH!glxgears03:56
ubotuTo display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"03:56
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gnomefreakthat flag never worked for me03:57
munzirI just tried it and it's complaining that there is not release file!03:57
thoreauputicgnomefreak: works here :)03:57
gnomefreaki have to use glxgears --printfps  for it to work03:57
luciaerUSUL: I'm having the error "The system has no more ptys ask your administrator for more." I should have Unix98 PTY support03:58
gnomefreak1 or 2 - cant remember03:58
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erUSULlucia: are you using the default ubuntu kernel?03:58
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luciaerUSUL: yes, version 5.1003:59
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agliv5@thorea I posted under agliv5 to the pastebin, hope it helps :)03:59
kmoorehello03:59
gnomefreaknow it works for me :(03:59
kmooredo i no anyone on here?03:59
Dutchyoh i had another question... whats the difference between the 386 kernel and the k7 kernel and why dont i get the k7 by default if i have an amd1800+?03:59
gnomefreakjust wish something would show higher fps than it does :(03:59
thoreauputickmoore: probably not03:59
Xanaubotu, restricted formats?03:59
ubotu[restricted formats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'03:59
agliv5@kmoore If you don't know, how are we supposed to know?03:59
kmoorehow old are most of you04:00
gnomefreakDutchy: did you install from 64bit install disk?04:00
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erUSULlucia: which program throws the error04:00
erUSUL?04:00
thoreauputickmoore: this isn't a general chat channel :)04:00
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_jason!restricted formats =~ s/codecs/!codecs/04:00
agliv5@Dutchy hang on a sec got a good link04:00
ubotu_jason: OK04:00
Dutchygnomefreak, nope, what does this have to do with 64bit?04:00
gnomefreakkmoore: join #ubuntu-offftopic for that please04:00
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haggishow do i check wich version on GCC i am using04:00
Warbokmoore: Unless you want 700 relies then I don't know about "most of you"04:00
gnomefreakDutchy: k7 is 64bit kernel iirc04:00
apache2hey guys... --- I'm assuming that my Nvidia-GLX is not working properlly, or setup correctly -- I get the nvidia logo for the driver, but if I try and run GLX, it is not pretty04:00
_jasonhaggis: gcc --version04:01
apache2anyone know what would be going on?04:01
kmooreno i dont get it :S lol, what do you all talk about?04:01
Warboapache2: Are you using Composite?04:01
Dutchysounds weird because amd k7 series is athlons?04:01
apache2Warbo: no04:01
luciaerUSUL: when I do chroot04:01
thoreauputickmoore: this is an Ubuntu help channel04:01
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kmoorewhat are you all talking about?04:01
gnomefreakkmoore: this is a ubuntu support channel please join #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support talk04:02
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Warbokmoore: Ubuntu GNU/Linux04:02
spiekeyhi04:02
spiekeycould someone please help me to understand those lines from a howto? http://pastebin.com/66710904:02
kmooreplease can i ask you a question anyone who might be able to help me, some one who is good with computers?04:02
spiekeydoes that mean i need to leave the line commented out?04:02
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erUSULlucia: run mount | grep devpts04:02
_jasonkmoore: just ask, if someone knows they will try :)04:02
gnomefreakkmoore: what operating syste,?04:03
apache2anyone know why my GLX wouldn't be running properly?  my xorg.conf looks right...04:03
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thoreauputickmoore: ask the channel your question - if we can help we will04:03
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haggisid there a drapper support irc channel04:03
kmooreo thx, erm well i want to download msn messenger, i am on msn.com i have an email but i cant quite seem to be able to download msn messenger?04:04
thoreauputichaggis: #ubuntu+104:04
Warbospiekey: It is not commented out :) The # makes sure GRUB doesn't get confused when Ubuntu rewrites the menu.lst after a kernel upgrade04:04
luciaerUSUL: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html#no-ptys04:04
gnomefreakkmoore: what operating system?04:04
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kmoorewhats that/?04:04
thoreauputickmoore: you can use the gaim IM client04:04
agliv5@Dutchy https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto has a chart and explains the differences04:04
Xanaubotu, gnome-art?04:04
ubotuXana: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:04
Warbokmoore: Are you running windows?04:04
gnomefreakkmoore: windows? ubuntu? redhat?04:04
thoreauputickmoore: are you running Ubuntu?04:04
kmoorewindows04:04
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kmoorei think04:05
gnomefreakkmoore: please join #windows04:05
spiekeyWarbo: so i need to leave the # in front of the line?04:05
thoreauputickmoore: /join #windows04:05
Warbokmoore: Well, if you want your chat to work go on www.ubuntu.com and download it :)04:05
kmoorei just want to know how to download msn messenger04:05
luciaerUSUL: it answers devpts on /mnt/lfs/dev/pts type devpts04:05
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Dutchyagliv5, i dont think i asked anything abotu mplayer04:05
gnomefreakXana: sudo apt-g etinstall gnome-art its in universe repo04:05
kmoorei just want to know how to download msn messenger04:05
kmooree i just want to know how to download msn messenger04:05
thoreauputickmoore: wrong channel04:05
Xanaahh04:05
Xanathanks04:05
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bur[n] erkmoore: u can use amsn04:05
_jasonkmoore: this channel is for ubuntu help, you can get windows help at #windows, jsut type this tog et there: /join #windows04:05
gnomefreakXana: yw and its apt-get04:05
apache2I just want to know how to get my GLX working :(04:05
erUSULlucia: i have read the same thing arround here.04:05
gnomefreaksorry for typo04:05
kmoorehow do i hange channel?04:05
Warbospiekey: Yes. If you want to comment it put two # (##) as this is not info for GRUB, it is info for Ubuntu (tells Ubuntu where your root directory is when it is updating the menu.lst file)04:06
kmoorechange*04:06
XanaI'll enable universe in synaptic then04:06
Dutchyagliv5, ok nvm that last msg i see what you mean04:06
Xanaand use it04:06
gnomefreakXana: than you should have it04:06
zuguhello. my beep media player suddenly stops playing (usually once a song). i tried switching the output to ALSA, OSS, but it keeps stopping. i even tried to start it from a terminal, but it generates no output when stopping04:06
spiekeyWarbo: ah, ok04:06
thoreauputickmoore: type  /join #windows04:06
WolfmanKkmoore type "/join #windows"04:06
gnomefreakjust install it now04:06
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paxanyone ubuntu'ing on inspiron 9300, what resolution are you using?04:06
erUSULlucia: you are trying lsf? and it fails when you do 'chroot /mnt/lfs'?04:06
bur[n] erpax: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting/04:06
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apache2so I've got nvidia-kernel working, but nvidia-glx does not seem to be working, what can I do?04:07
luciaerUSUL: yes. it fails exactly when I do (after chrooting) 'expect -c "spawn ls'04:07
Warboapache2: Sorry, I'm having problems but I'm on Dapper (with a different nvidia version) so I can't help04:07
agliv5@Dutchy your right, but on the page is an explanation of the diffrent packages i.e. k7 i386 and so on... and you were asking about the difference04:08
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apache2I'm on dapper :P04:08
paxbur[n] er: need real-life feed back, thx :-)04:08
erUSULhow do you mounted the devpts (command you used)?04:08
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Warboapache2: Oh, are you in #ubuntu+1 (I was until a second ago)04:08
apache2it just seems that the nvidia-glx is not chosen to be used, more like xorg-gl04:08
thoreauputicapache2: dapper questions in #ubuntu+104:09
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apache2okay thanks04:09
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luciaerUSUL: mount -f -vt devpts -o gid=10,mode=620 devpts $LFS/dev/pts04:09
gnomefreakapache2: did you run the sudo nvidia-glx-something enable?04:09
agliv5@thorea did you get a chance to look through my k3b error messages?04:09
apache2gnomefreak: lemme look04:09
gnomefreaksomething = whatever word is ther ei think its settings but cant remember off hand04:10
thoreauputicagliv5: sorry, missed your URL - did you post it?04:10
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spiekeyhas someone played around with root encryption such as http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120091  ?04:10
thoreauputicagliv5: and please tab complete nicks or people will miss your messages04:10
spiekeyi need some theory help :)04:10
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spiekeyi am missing the steps where i have to change my boot config04:10
gnomefreakapache2: also if its a pci card or a card other than onboard the pci bus port cant be set to 1:00:004:10
hyperactivecrondmako: you've written books? and had them published?04:11
agliv5@thore sorry, I must have forgot paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1250504:11
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agliv5@ thoreauputic what a great feature, (I didn't know you could tab names) thanks for the info04:12
gnomefreakoops he is04:12
thoreauputicagliv5: :)04:12
haggisdoes this channel deal with drapper support  to04:12
gnomefreakhyperactivecrond: had to refreash my /names04:12
erUSULlucia: maybe you should be using gid=5 as it is the tty group in ubuntu?04:12
agliv5thoreauputic did you get the link?04:12
thoreauputicagliv5: the @ is not necessary04:12
thoreauputicagliv5: looking04:12
bur[n] erhaggis: #ubuntu+104:12
gnomefreakhaggis: for _dapper_ support please join #ubuntu+104:12
haggischeer04:12
hyperactivecrondgnomefreak: aologies04:12
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hyperactivecrond!dapper04:12
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)04:12
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gnomefreaksorry :(04:13
Frogzoooh noes - they're already saying dapper is _due_ june 1, not that it will be released then04:13
thoreauputicagliv5: why are you running as root ?04:13
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thoreauputicagliv5: that;s why you are getting authentication errors04:13
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thoreauputicagliv5: did you run k3b from a user terminal in your session as the root account?04:14
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agliv5thoreauputic yes I ran from a terminal because I'm tryng to back up stuff that's on a NTFS drive before formating the drive to linux04:15
thoreauputicagliv5: don't run gUI apps as root04:15
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thoreauputicagliv5: you will lock your self out04:16
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agliv5thoreauputic but I suppose I could create the immage as root and burn it as user if that would help...04:16
thoreauputicagliv5: it will alter your ~/.ICEauhority04:16
thoreauputicagliv5: just don't run GUI apps as root, please04:16
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luciaerUSUL: yes, I'm using gid=5 for the tty group04:17
agliv5thoreauputic how else am I supposed to backup the files on a ntfs drive?  Only root has permissions?04:17
thoreauputicagliv5: check your .ICEauthority file - I suspect it is now owned by root and you won't be able to log back in04:17
thoreauputicagliv5: erm, you /etc/fstab must be wrong04:17
thoreauputicagliv5: you can easily read from ntfs as a user04:17
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erUSULlucia: so if you use gid=5 in the mount command does the error desappear?04:18
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agliv5thoreauputic that doesn't sound too good04:18
gnomefreakagliv5: its not04:18
thoreauputicagliv5: what does ls -al ~/.ICEauthority   say ?04:18
_guMuTpoBhi, could any1 tell me how to install ubuntu without burning cd media04:18
gnomefreakubotu tell _guMuTpoB about install04:19
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agliv5my NTFS drives permissions are 500 i.e. root read and execute04:19
agliv5so what should I do first?04:19
thoreauputicagliv5: tha isn't right, and you must have changed something04:20
agliv5I haven't changed anything it was that way since I installed Ubuntu...04:20
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thoreauputicagliv5: what folder are you mounting ntfs to?04:20
thoreauputicagliv5: do, for example  ,   ls -l /media/windows  (or whatever it is called on your system)04:21
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agliv5thoreauputic ok, here's the deal I've got 1 HD/2 Linux & 3 NTFS partitions04:21
luciaerUSUL: I remounted devpts with guid: it returns 'devpts on /mnt/lfs/dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)', but I still have the 'no more ptys error'04:22
thoreauputicsorry that should be ls -ld /media/windows04:22
agliv5thoreauputic My NTFS drives are hda6 hda7 & hda804:23
thoreauputicagliv5: permissions on the moount point should be 75504:23
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ubuntu_hello, i've messed up. i have altered the partition table in windows, and it has done something to grub. now it gives me some weird command line interface which i can't figure out. how can i set grub back up (i'm running ubuntu live right now)04:23
carlIf I have the source code tarball for a program... how do I turn it in to a *deb package?04:23
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Hobbsee!tell carl about compile04:23
gnomefreakubotu tell carl -about checkinstall04:24
Hobbsee!tell beta_m about grub04:24
thoreauputicagliv5: whay do you have 3 ntfs partitions at 6 7 and 8? Very odd..04:24
gnomefreakmake install doesnt make debs :(04:24
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agliv5thoreauputic what do I do to change the permissions?04:24
beta_mthaks... that looks like its going to help04:24
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thoreauputicagliv5: windows more or less *has* to be on /dev/hda1 (unless you do soem gymnastics with grub)04:25
erUSULlucia: maybe you do not have the devs in the lfs? try 'mknod $LFS/dev/ptmx c 5 2; chmod 666 $LFS/dev/ptmx'04:25
skypathat ain't true, thoreauputic04:25
thoreauputicagliv5: you haven't answered any of my questions...04:25
skypaI had it on hda3 with a standard grub entry04:26
thoreauputicskypa: erm - how ?04:26
skypawell.. I just had *g*04:26
thoreauputicskypa: normally it won't boot from there04:26
agliv5I originaly had Windows XP installed with drives c:-fat32 (e: f: g:)-NTFS then formated e: to linux swap and main04:26
thoreauputicagliv5: sorry, you need someone who knows windows - I only know linux04:27
agliv5thoreauputic first off I don't have windows anymore, otherwise I would just backup my files in Windows04:27
thoreauputicah i see04:27
thoreauputicagliv5: so you deleted hda1, right?04:28
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agliv5thoreauputic something like that04:28
thoreauputicagliv5: sounds tricky04:28
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thoreauputicagliv5: but the mount points for your ntfs partitions should all be 75504:29
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luciaerUSUL: (while chrooted) root:/# mknod /dev/ptmx c 5 2; chmod 666 /dev/ptmx --- it answers mknod: `/dev/ptmx': File exists04:29
lucia and the error persists04:29
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thoreauputicagliv5: and your /etc/fstab entries should look like04:29
thoreauputic/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    noauto,ro,users,umask=022       0       004:29
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thoreauputicor "user"04:29
agliv5thoreauputic maybe they're not that way because at the time I installed Ubuntu Windows was already gone04:30
zuguhello. my beep media player suddenly stops playing (usually once a song). i tried switching the output to ALSA, OSS, but it keeps stopping. i even tried to start it from a terminal, but it generates no output when stopping04:30
luciaerUSUL: I must be doing something wrong, since yesterday I didn't have this error04:30
thoreauputicagliv5: see above04:30
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Hobbseedarn...it never takes my full string..04:30
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thoreauputicHobbsee: script problems?04:31
klaxianhey everyone04:31
agliv5thoreauputic I'm going to post my fstab file so that you can see what's going on04:31
Hobbseethoreauputic: i used /quote remove #ubuntu Al-Daja no away scripts in here please - it didnt seem to work though...04:31
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thoreauputicHobbsee: ah04:31
lgcgnomefreak, can't I just interrupt the download, leave open the security repositories, apt-get update and apt-get install to avoid waiting for another 3 hours?04:32
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thoreauputicHobbsee: I think you need a : before the message at the end04:32
daniel_brazilhi all04:32
klaxiani just read an article on Flight 5...how would I upgrade to it?  It is just as simple as changing breezy to dapper in my apt sources?  if Flight 5 a specific preview release that I should configure in my apt sources?04:32
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gnomefreaklgc: you can but i dont suggest it04:32
Hobbseethoreauputic: ahhh...okay...04:32
daniel_brazili am new to ubuntu, i was a slackware user, and now i am having fun with ubuntu04:32
agliv5thoreauputic post 1250604:32
lgcgnomefreak, why?04:32
daniel_brazilits a new world, new things to learn04:33
gnomefreakklaxian: were almost past flight 6 give it a few more days and install the beta04:33
gnomefreaklgc: its not a good thing to interupt apt04:33
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daniel_brazilwhat is the diference of main, multiverse, restricted and universe repositories?04:33
thoreauputicgnomefreak: it's OK to ctrl+C a download - I do it regularly04:34
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klaxiangnomefreak: cool, i'm running breezy now...do i change my apt sources to say flight6 or dapper?  if i change to dapper now, i will continue to get upgrades until the final release, right?04:34
_jasonubotu: tell daniel_brazil about components04:34
gnomefreakdaniel_brazil: the packages they carry04:34
gnomefreakubotu tell klaxian -about upgrade04:34
agliv5thoreauputic did you get my fstab entries?04:34
thoreauputicagliv5: all you ntfs entries are wrong04:34
erUSULlucia: i'm afraid i'm out of ideas sorry :(04:34
klaxiangnomefreak: thanks04:34
luciaerUSUL: when I umount /mnt/lfs/dev/pts it returns umount: devpts: not found04:34
agliv5thoreauputic so what do I do?04:35
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gnomefreakthoreauputic: i just dont ever suggest it there is always a chance of something going wornt04:35
gnomefreakwrong04:35
thoreauputicagliv5: you need something like    noauto,ro,users,umask=02204:35
gnomefreakklaxian: i would wait until 20th04:35
luciaerUSUL: somewhat devpts is not mounting, but it doesn't return any errors04:35
thoreauputicagliv5: instead of "defaults"04:35
klaxiangnomefreak: oh ya? lots of bug fixes then?04:36
gnomefreakklaxian: if you use the first link use dapper instead of breezy04:36
agliv5thoreauputic can I just change it with a text editor and then restart?04:36
gnomefreakklaxian: it will be more for communtiy use than04:36
thoreauputicagliv5: yes, but use sudo04:36
klaxiangnomefreak: alrighty04:36
thoreauputicagliv5: like sudo nano /etc/fstab04:36
Doatgnomefreak: (it's jauheliha) so now i want to burn the cd again but i can't boot to windows anymore. i tried to boot from windows cd and use fixboot but it didn't help04:36
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thoreauputicagliv5: no need to restart04:37
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gnomefreakDoat: what os are you using?04:37
thoreauputicagliv5: after editing, just run  sudo mount -a04:37
Doatwindows xp prof edition04:37
daniel_brazilhow about BACKPORTS? what is it all about?04:37
agliv5thoreauputic I'll try thanks for the info04:37
gnomefreakDoat: go get free trial of nero if you dont have it installed and use that04:37
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thoreauputicagliv5: yw :)04:37
Doatand i made my own image with nlite04:37
Doatgnomefreak: but i can't boot to windows..04:38
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gnomefreakdaniel_brazil: same backports are not supported by ubuntu but they have some packages for your release from the newer release04:38
simonpca+04:38
simonpca++04:38
gnomefreakDoat: i ask again what os are you using right now to be here04:38
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Doatgnomefreak: my second comp that doesn't have a burning drive04:38
daniel_brazilgnomefreak, are they supported from community?04:39
gnomefreakdaniel_brazil: they are not supported   backports are non-offical  now if someone personally supports them dont know04:39
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Doatgnomefreak: of course i can move the one in the other computer to this working one but it would be a lot easier if i could fix it to boot to windows04:39
gnomefreakDoat: you dont have a ubuntulive cd laying around do you?04:40
_jasonubotu: tell daniel_brazil about backports04:40
Doatgnomefreak: nope >&04:40
Doat:/*04:40
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gnomefreakDoat: i dont know other than install windows on pc and go from there04:41
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Xanahow do I register xmms to play all my mp3's in gnome?04:41
Doatgnomefreak: oh boy :/04:41
_jasonubotu: tell Xana about defaultapp04:41
gnomefreakubotu tell Xana -about mp304:41
Doatwell i guess it's the only way04:41
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erUSULlucia: do mount -f -t devpts -o gid=5,mode=620 devpts $LFS/dev/pts04:41
gnomefreakoh he said register :(04:41
Xanaty :)04:42
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daniel_brazilthx for u help guys, thx very much for u support!!! ;-)04:42
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Xanawoo, there we go04:43
klaxiangnomefreak: i followed the instructions for the upgrade in the link you supplied, but the update-manager doesn't offer me the option to upgrade to dapper04:43
Xanatrying to set this up for my wife so she can stop getting viruses on her damn pc for me to fix04:44
klaxiangnomefreak: what am i missing?  should i just change it in the apt source file and dist-upgrade?04:44
Xanalol04:44
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Der_RichterXana: If you right-click on an mp3-file... You should be able to figure it out. Hint -> "Properties" :)04:45
XanaI got it already04:45
Xana:)04:45
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Frogzooklaxian: you do realise dapper is currently beta?04:45
klaxianFrogzoo: yes i do04:46
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klaxianFrogzoo: i'm not installing it on a mission critical system04:46
klaxianFrogzoo: i'm used to testing new releases :)04:46
Frogzooklaxian: change your repos to 'dapper' & 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'04:46
Der_RichterXana: Whatever you do next... Never show your wife how "sudo" works.04:46
klaxianFrogzoo: that's what i normally do, but somehow i thought this one was different04:47
klaxianFrogzoo: thank you04:47
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Frogzooklaxian: or better yet, follow this guide: http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt04:47
klaxianFrogzoo: ah, many thanks04:47
Frogzooklaxian: or better yet, follow this guide: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html04:47
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klaxianFrogzoo: that's the guide i did follow and the new update-manager didn't give me any options to upgrade to dapper04:48
agliv5thoreauputic I changed all default to noauto,ro,users,umask=022 and now the permissions are 55504:48
klaxianFrogzoo: do i also have to change my apt sources to dapper then run the new update-manager?04:48
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thoreauputicagliv5: permissions on the mount points?04:49
suston3d hi, im new to ubuntu and want to install a makefile, but in the terminal it would say - bash/sudo - make not found ... i there no make @ ubuntu ?04:49
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li_who can tell me why it display oil:error liboiltest.c 247 when i install gstreamer0.804:49
NewBieBoyguys, i'm on a dual boot... how can i access my windows file? is it possible?04:49
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thoreauputicagliv5: do sudo chown 755 on each mount point04:49
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klaxianNewBieBoy: yes, is your windows partition NTFS or FAT?04:49
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NewBieBoyntfs04:49
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thoreauputicagliv5: BTW the "noauto" option means they don't mount on boot - so you might want "auto"04:50
klaxianNewBieBoy: well you can only read NTFS, not write to it...so you can read and copy your windows files but not modify them on windows04:50
agliv5thoreauputic I think so.  I propertyed hda6 and it said permissions 55504:50
klaxianNewBieBoy: on the windows partition i mean04:50
Frogzooklaxian: don't think you need to touch anything, just install/run update-manager04:50
NewBieBoyyes...04:50
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thoreauputicagliv5: NOT the device -  the mount point04:50
NewBieBoycoz i'm looking at my file manager...  but i can't see the files...04:50
thoreauputicagliv5: leave the devices alone ;)04:51
`blinkhi. maybe someone have router vigor 3300?04:51
klaxianFrogzoo: i did and it just said my system was up to date04:51
klaxianNewBieBoy: yes, you need to mount the windows partition first04:51
agliv5thoreauputic so how do I determine the permissions on the mount point?04:51
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klaxianNewBieBoy: read the man page for "mount"04:52
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NewBieBoyok thanks.04:52
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klaxianNewBieBoy: let me know if you need more help04:52
thoreauputicagliv5: assuming the mount points are /media/hda* , do ls -ld /media/hda*04:52
damian_how can i manually configure/install my NIC (it's VMWare, so if it's not supported, no biggie)04:52
_guMuTpoBi have an older release of knoppix, is it possible to install and use its kde desktop on my latest ubuntu release ?04:52
prgrmri install ubuntu and i can't connect to the internet04:52
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thoreauputicagliv5: should look like04:53
thoreauputicdrwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2005-10-22 14:49 /media/hda104:53
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suston3dhello, is in ubuntu no bash-cmd : make ?? ... how can i else run makefiles ?04:53
Der_Richter_guMuTpoB: Why not simply get KDE in a new and fresh version?04:53
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thoreauputic!tell suston3d about b-e04:53
erUSUL_guMuTpoB: no. use kubuntu. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:53
thoreauputic!b-e04:53
ubotuhmm... b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.04:53
Jimmer!nis04:53
prgrmrcan some one help me?04:53
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Jimmer04:53
JimmerI'm having trouble with nis04:53
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erUSUL!help04:54
JimmerI added a new user in passwd, but I don't know how to get nis to update04:54
Jimmerthe new user doesn't show up when I ypcat04:54
_guMuTpoBwell, i have knoppix on cd, and downloading the whole kde desktop from internet is a problem for me, because I have to my ISP for the traffic I make, and there should not be much diferences between this older relase of kde04:54
klaxianFrogzoo: i think i figured it out...there was an upgrade today that is newer than the update manager in the bp repository so i have to install that specific one...04:55
tarun713I've got a question for those who use xchat. Since version 2.6.0, I haven't been able to find an option to auto-open PM windows when they come in. Does anyone know where this option is located?04:55
suston3dthx thoreauputic  ill give it a try04:55
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SirKillalothow do I download the sourcecode of a program with apt-get?04:55
dereksman apt-get04:56
Der_Richter_guMuTpoB: If KDE is stored on the CD as packages or source, it should not be a problem. May require some tweaking.04:56
avusirkillalot: apt-get source foo04:56
thoreauputicSirKillalot: apt-get source <foo>04:56
_guMuTpoBthanx04:56
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thoreauputicavu: heh :)04:56
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fromvega Hello, how does the IC Linux driver work? Is this driver for any IC bus or for the motherboard IC bus? I'm starting a project where I'm planning to connect a IC bus via Serial Port. Could I use Linux IC driver or not? Thanks04:56
matrixHi can i install ubuntu over net without any media (like debian)?04:57
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FrogzooSirKillalot: this may help: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html04:57
slackernfromvega, http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/1342 maybe that helps out?04:58
Der_RichterAnyone who has any experience in setting up Eclipse for use with C/C++/ASM? What do i need, except libs and compilers?04:58
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aridesehi guys, what's the nvidia video card configuration utility?04:59
JimmerI need help with nis.  I added a new user in passwd, but I don't know how to get nis to update.  the new user doesn't show up when I ypcat04:59
thoreauputic!nvidia04:59
ubotumethinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736804:59
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LoCusFDer_Richter: just install cdt04:59
LoCusFyou won't get ASM but anyways05:00
FrogzooJimmer: I'm not sure nis syncs to the passwd file - you might need to use nistbladm to add the user to the nis user table05:00
NewBieBoyin linux... how can i set the "windows" button on my keyboard to open ,i.e. Applications or Places or System? is this possible?05:00
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agliv5thoreauputic ls -ld /media/hda605:00
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thoreauputicagliv5: says what?05:00
matrixcan i install ubuntu ove net?05:00
Der_RichterNewBieBoy: In Gnome - "Keyboard shortcuts"?05:00
agliv5thoreauputic dr-xr-xr-x  1  root root 8192 ect...05:00
Jimmernistbladm?05:01
Frogzoomatrix: not supported, no05:01
FlannelKingFrogzoo: eh? netinstalls are supported.05:01
fromvegaslackern: I'll take a look, tks05:01
thoreauputicagliv5: sudo chown -R 755 /media05:01
FrogzooFlannelKing: no way? really?05:01
Der_RichterLoCusF: Ok. Do i have to point to the standard libs in Eclipse somehow or will it work "out of the box"?05:01
matrixok thanks05:01
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LoCusFDer_Richter: it should work out of the box05:02
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NewBieBoythanks!05:02
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LoCusF_should_05:02
agliv5thoreauputic only readable05:02
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thoreauputicagliv5: as root05:02
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thoreauputicagliv5: run that command with sudo05:02
ubuntu_hey05:02
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agliv5thoreauputic as root, only readable05:02
thoreauputicagliv5: hmm - your 555 is stopping root from changing the perms05:03
aridesehow do i use antialiasing in linux?05:03
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Der_RichterLoCusF: I'll give it a shot then. Thanks. Just have to find a free x86 Assembler...05:03
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_jasonthoreauputic: you mean chmod right?05:03
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thoreauputic_jason: aargh - yes thanks05:03
thoreauputicdoh05:03
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agliv5thoreauputic in the linux bible it says that linux only supports NTFS read only05:04
thoreauputicagliv5: as _jason said, sudo chmod 755 /media05:04
thoreauputicagliv5: correct05:04
thoreauputicagliv5: heance the ro in fstab05:04
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thoreauputicagliv5: and the umask=02205:04
Frogzoo!captive05:04
ubotuI heard captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.05:04
deborak,lok,k,ujm05:04
thoreauputic_jason: thanks for the correction :)05:05
agliv5chmod error data system only readable05:05
Frogzooagliv5: there's also a commercial product called Paragon - but both rely on a native doze ntfs dll/driver05:05
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thoreauputicagliv5: I don't know how the perms got that way - you might have to create new mount points05:05
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agliv5All I want to do is burn the data on the NTFS drives, then format them to linux...05:06
ubuntu_can;t log into ubuntu because only 85 mb  space left on live cd did mount -t ext3 /mnt/dev/hda1/ / mnt/  but reply was mount: special device /mnt/dev/hda1/ does not exist05:06
_jasonthoreauputic: np, just happened to glance over it05:06
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thoreauputicagliv5: you should be able to access them when mounted, with 555 ( read/ execute )05:07
agliv5thoreauputic I can access the data as root, but you said I shouldn't burn as root05:07
thoreauputicagliv5: have you tried again since cahnging fstab?05:08
thoreauputic*changing05:08
vickswell i have installed the ubuntu first time .... the movie player doesnot play any video ... says i need to install codecs and i dont know where to find them05:08
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erUSULubuntu_: is /dev/hda1 no /mnt/dev/hda105:08
_jasonubotu: tell vicks about multimedia05:08
agliv5thoreauputic tried what again, accessing or burning?05:08
thoreauputicagliv5: accessing as user05:08
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ubuntu_erUSUL thankyou i will try the correct command does help05:09
AMDXP!codecs05:09
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories05:09
agliv5thoreauputic accessing only works for root05:09
thoreauputicagliv5: you ran  sudo mount -a  , right?05:10
agliv5yep05:10
m_0_r_0_nWhat s the name of bash calculator?05:10
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thoreauputicagliv5: I'm out of ideas, sorry05:11
Storkhow do i re-label a drive (media card)05:11
agliv5thoreauputic by changing the fstab we added group root to the permissions, can I change the fstab again to change group to user?05:11
thoreauputicagliv5: no, we didn't add root05:11
ubuntu_erUSUL; tried :~# mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1/ /mnt05:11
ubuntu_ and reply was mount: special device /dev/hda1/ does not exist05:11
ubuntu_ and also     (a path prefix is not a directory)05:11
thoreauputicagliv5: we added "users"05:11
WarboStork: Relabel? As in mount point, or partition label?05:12
_jasonagliv5: did you umount and then do mount -a?  I think you have to do that when you change fstab05:12
StorkWarbo, i'm not sure, but when i mount it, i want to change the name it mounts to05:12
thoreauputic!tell agliv5 about mountwindows05:12
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thoreauputicagliv5: that's another way you might try05:12
agliv5thoreauputic but the group is root and not users...05:12
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thoreauputicagliv5: ?05:12
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agliv5yes I unmounted and remounted each drive seperately05:13
thoreauputicagliv5: mount points are always owned by root05:13
root_hey all05:13
WarboStork: OK, the word "label" is just a little shortcut and not actually what you meant. The mount point is where something gets put. I'm assuming it is in /media/something, is that correct?05:13
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root_anyone from germany?05:13
Storkyes Warbo05:13
thoreauputicagliv5: at least, in /media05:13
agliv5eh was geht ab alter?05:13
root_nichts, wer bist du?05:13
WarboStork: OK, does it get mounted (accessed) when you plug it in inside GNOME, or only on boot up?05:13
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thoreauputicagliv5: you can create mount points in you $HOME dir if you wish, though05:14
agliv5Ich bin das kleine ich bin ich ;)05:14
Frogzoo!de05:14
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de05:14
thoreauputic!de05:14
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StorkWarbo, when i plug it in05:14
agliv5thoreauputic I'm currently trying to burn as a user an immage created as root05:14
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Frogzooroot_: please don't run irc as root05:14
root_arne wie gehts dir?05:14
WarboStork: OK, so it is the gnome-volume-manager that is giving it it's name, not the /etc/fstab file. What name is it getting? sda1, usbdisk or something else?05:15
agliv5root_ ich glaube wir verrgern die anderen wenn wir deutsch reden... private chat?05:15
liran_i understand that dapper is released now with xorg 705:15
erUSULubuntu_: maybe you are using sata discs try /dev/sdax05:15
FrogzooWarbo: usb is managed by hotplug, which doesn't look at fstab05:16
Frogzooliran_: dapper has _not_ been released05:16
StorkWarbo, 'Stork'. I want to change it05:16
liran_Frogzoo, (i know) and there are no official ati drivers for it yet, right?05:16
WarboFrogzoo: I was making sure it was not in /etc/fstab (my USB disks are), but I don't actually know how to change a hotplugged device name (eg. My Neuros442 goes to /media/NEUROS442, and I don't know how to change it)05:17
ubuntu_erUSUL: i do not think so but i will give your suggestion a try05:17
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Frogzooliran_: dunno, ask in #ubuntu+105:17
FrogzooWarbo: unfortunately, that makes 2 of us :(05:17
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WarboStork: Well I have a quick 'n' dirty solution if you want to access it from your home folder05:17
StorkWarbo, don't worry about it.05:18
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RugHowdy all05:18
liran_ok05:18
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liran_thanks Frogzoo05:18
WarboFrogzoo: Sadly, that is exactly the problem Stork has. I can only suggest "mount --bind"ing it to another folder in $HOME05:18
Rodrigohi05:18
Rodrigowhat is the channel of support of ubuntu for brazil?05:18
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RugWhat output engine should Amarok be using alsa, ess, etc..?05:19
=== NewBieBoy Nice job!
_jason!br05:19
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.05:19
Nookie^how can i with apt found out the package versions of some applications?05:19
WarboStork: I'm sure there will be someone who knows. Try Googling for "gnome volume manager" and "/media" to see if you find any answers05:19
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ubuntu_erUSUL:  special device blah balah does not exist -very strange05:20
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WarboRug: That depends on what plugins you have. If you have all of the Gstreamer ones then that is fine, if not then use Xine. I personally HATE aRts05:21
killapophe told me05:21
WarboRug: If you use esd or aRts then any visualisations will be SLOW05:21
RugWarbo: I am not talking about the engine sorry, the "ouput Plugin"05:22
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WarboRug: Oh. Usually ALSA is the best. If not then OSS (but this is actually obsolete, and is emulated by ALSA)05:22
agliv5thoreauputic I'm not worried about not having user access seeing as how as soon as I backup the data, the drives are geting reformated anyway...  If I could just figure out why k3b keeps freezing up...05:22
RugAhh thanks.   Thats what I thought but I was haveing alot of sound artifacts and problems.05:23
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alain__hey, i am back05:23
erUSULubuntu_: ls /dev/[hd,sd] *05:23
alain__wie gehts ihnen?05:23
ubuntu_erUSUL ok give me a sec05:24
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FrogzooRug: are you using gstreamer engine? try xine05:24
alain__yes, and u?05:24
RugFrogzoo: yes I am, xine isn't showing up, (but I do have it installed)05:24
WarboRug: If you try XMMS with ALSA, OSS, ESD and things (and look at the visualisations as well) then you know that the output is fine. If ALSA output in XMMS works then you know it is your playback engine which is dodgy (Amarok takes A LOT of resources)05:24
agliv5alain im chat is du blich, abgesehen davon glaube ich dass wir die anderen verrgern wenn wir hier deutsch reden... privater chat geflligst?05:24
FrogzooRug: if you just installed xine, you will need to restart amarok for it to show05:25
Rugnope, been installed for awhile05:25
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Rugis the version of Amarok newer in Dapper?05:26
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agliv5thoreauputic you still with me?05:26
FrogzooRug: sudo apt-get amarok-xine ?05:26
WarboRug: Gstreamer0.8 has problems keeping track of audio (if it stops for a second, then it will constantly try to catch up with itself, making playback stupid until the next track)05:26
RugFrogzoo: ahh no, not that one.05:26
ubuntu_erUSUL: I will place the output in a pastebin05:26
Jimmerwhat uids does ubuntu reserve?05:27
RugWarbo: yupp that sounds exactly what is going on.05:27
agliv5Can anyone help me with k3b freezing every time I want to burn a DVD05:27
Frogzooagliv5: did you choose clone or copy?05:27
alain__both05:27
WarboRug: Sorry, the only solution I can offer is don't run loads of apps at the same time as Amarok. Or use something a lot lighter (but Amarok is VERy good:) )05:27
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alain__yap05:28
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erUSULJimmer: you should use uids above 100005:28
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FrogzooJimmer: man adduser05:28
Jimmerbut 1065, shouldn't be a problem right?05:28
RugWarbo: I've actually been using it for a  long time.  I've just reinstalled my system after a format; so I am just trying to build it again05:28
JimmerI only ask, because it is05:28
FrogzooJimmer: a problem how?05:29
Jimmerwell, nis won't propagate it05:29
erUSULJimmer: no it should not05:29
Jimmeror rather, it will, but I can't login05:29
Jimmerit shows up on ypcat05:29
Jimmerbut I can't log into it05:29
FrogzooJimmer: cat /etc/adduser.conf05:29
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WarboRug: Does Amarok use Gstreamer by default? I think it does in Breezy, because of it's features, but in Dapper I've found that it uses Xine by default. Probably due to the dodgy playback problem05:30
FrogzooJimmer: nis afaik nis maintains a separate set of tables separate from the usual files05:30
RugWarbo: yupp05:30
JimmerI know05:30
Jimmerwhich you update with make -C ypcat05:30
Jimmer*yp05:30
alain__hi05:30
ubuntu_erUSUL: http://pastebin.ca/4973005:30
WarboRug: Well, I've got a different problem with audio.... Can you find my headphones for me :(05:31
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FrogzooJimmer: adduser.conf has first user at 1000, so this isn't  your problem05:31
Jimmeryeah05:31
Jimmerand last is like 2999905:31
erUSULubuntu_: mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt05:31
Rughar05:31
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[Rodrigohi anyone can help me?05:31
Frogzoo!helpme05:32
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.05:32
erUSULubuntu_: post fdisk -l /dev/hda in pastebin05:32
agliv5Frogzoo neither I'm trying to backup data from my harddrive05:32
FrogzooWarbo: yes, gstreamer is breezy's amarok default05:32
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[Rodrigohere on my job im behind a proxy, so i cant get any package of ubuntu, what i do?05:32
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flithmhey everyone... how do I upgrade to a newer kernel with breezy badger?  I need >= 2.6.13 for my wireless card!05:33
[Rodrigoi have installed the apt-proxy but i dont know how configures, anyone can help me?05:33
Frogzooagliv5: ls -ld /dev/hdc         or whatever your cdrom is05:33
[Rodrigo!helpme05:33
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.05:33
[Rodrigo!helpme here on my job im behind a proxy, so i cant get any package of ubuntu, what i do?05:33
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, [Rodrigo05:33
[Rodrigo!helpme proxy05:33
ubotu[Rodrigo: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:33
WarboRug: I did make a simple little script that changed Amarok from having nice value of 4 to -4, and put it in the corner of my panel05:34
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[Rodrigopleaaaaase =(05:34
flithmubotu: how do I upgrade the kernel?05:34
Frogzoo[Rodrigo: please don't spam05:34
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, flithm05:34
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_jason!apt_proxy05:34
ubotufrom memory, apt_proxy is for Apt via a http proxy, make a file called apt.conf in /etc/apt and put this in it...     Acquire::http::Proxy "http://PROXYADDRESS:PORT";05:34
ubuntu_erUSUL: ok it worked that time mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt05:34
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[Rodrigo_jason,  thanks man! but if i need to use password?05:35
Frogzooflithm: sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12-10-68605:35
RugWarbo: I haven't needed to alter the preformace settings for amarok.  I've got enough horsepower here (and I'm running fluxbox)05:35
[Rodrigo_jason, the proxy here has password05:35
WarboFrogzoo: There is a proxy environment variable isn't there? I think so because I broke apt-get when I installed anon-proxy05:35
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_jason[Rodrigo: hmm don't know, I'm sure if you google for apt proxy password you might get something05:35
flithmFrogzoo, I need a recent kernel image (ie >= 2.6.13)05:35
ubuntu_erUSUL: i will post he pastebin for fdisk in a sec05:35
valehruis there a url where I could browse the universe repo?05:35
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WarboRug: Amarok developers know that it takes loads of resources, so they put it as nice 4 by default. I had it changed to -4 for my system and it reduced (but didn't get rid of) dodgy playback problem05:36
[Rodrigo_jason,  ok man, thanks :D05:36
Frogzoovalehru: grep breezy /etc/apt/sources.list05:36
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RugI guess I've been luck in the past05:36
Warbovalehru: Put the url of Universe into FireFox and look in "pool"05:36
RugI also have it connecting to an external MySQL db05:37
C-O-L-THow to insert text box in OpenOffice Writer, Writer is getting on my nerves, can not get this menu :))05:37
erUSULubuntu_: there is no need now it worked05:37
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FrogzooC-O-L-T: which version oo?05:37
C-O-L-TFrogzoo: the latest05:37
WarboRug: Never got the hang of MySQL myself, but it's supposed to be faster than SQLite05:37
Frogzoo!ooo205:37
ubotuTo upgrade to OOo 2.0.x, see http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html (add one of the 'deb' lines to sources.list and update+upgrade)05:37
C-O-L-TFrogzoo: I have OO205:38
fromvegaslackern: hey dude, do you know where I can download the code the author mentions on the site?05:38
RugWarbo: much faster.   I already had a Mysql db setup and running so it was a simple matter to add the user and table05:38
agliv5Frogzoo /dev/cdrom lrwxrwxrwx  1 root agliv5 3 etc...05:39
ubuntu_erUSUL thanks for the support but still strange it not work the first time, just to ask a quick question is it ok to delete files from apt-cache05:39
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WarboRug: A problem I have is that after renaming files their details are lost in Amarok (like how much I like it). Is it easy to point entries to the new filename in MySQL?05:40
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RugNo, that is a key flaw that can't be avoided05:40
erUSULubuntu_: use apt-get clean or apt-get autoclean05:40
FjodorHi all. Any ideas for a fix to "Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C"05:40
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agliv5Frogzoo ya still with me?05:41
WarboRug: OK then (dammit)05:41
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Rugmy db now has over 1 million entries from moving files & reinstalling , etc..05:41
WarboRug: And it still goes fast?05:42
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FjodorThe problem arose after upgrading to xorg7 in breezy (apt-get source a lot of packages from dapper, and dpkg-buildpackage them)05:42
Rugyupp, don't forget it's on a different server then this local box.05:42
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siriusnovahello05:42
ubuntu_erUSUL ; ibut first sorry to state the obivious i must cd  /mnt/dev/hda1/etc/apt?05:42
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Rugsiriusnova: Hiya05:42
nicola_hallo, I'm planning to install ubuntu 5.10 on a HP Proliant DL380 G4, I've tried to find some certification for the hardware but I could'nt has anybody installed ubuntu on such hardware? Some problems? NIC or other?05:42
siriusnovaCan I ask a Dapper drake question here?05:42
siriusnovai mean Dapper05:42
Warbosiriusnova: Maybe, depends if it's generic05:43
Rugsiriusnova: you can try, but the Dapper channel is #ubuntu+105:43
[Rodrigo!apt05:43
ubotuapt is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto05:43
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RugWhat I need now is a tool that can sort/organize my music collection and remove the dupes05:44
siriusnovaWell its regarding the new network-manager applet in Flight 6, it doesnt work for me I get this when i run it in a terminal : siriusnova@scimitar:~$ nm-applet05:44
siriusnova** (nm-applet:6242): WARNING **: Icon nm-no-connection missing: Icon 'nm-no-connection' not present in theme05:44
siriusnova(nm-applet:6242): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed05:44
siriusnovaoops05:44
siriusnova^_^05:44
WarboRug: There is a "remove duplicate/dead entries" option that I use. Does that not work with MySQL?05:44
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RugWarbo: that only applies to the playlist, not the actual files.05:45
erUSULubuntu_: if you are making the clean from the live cd do. cd /mnt/ ls /var/cache/apt/archives/05:45
Rugsiriusnova: your best bet is to goto the #ubuntu+1 channel05:45
WarboRug: Oh, well I'm no expert (I don't even know how to use MySQL)05:45
Rugnp, thanks for the help05:45
siriusnovaRug - thanks05:46
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Warbosiriusnova: Network manager testing is actually in the Dapper MOTD05:46
erUSULubuntu_: if you are making the clean from the live cd do. cd /mnt/var/cache/apt/archives/ and rm the *debs05:46
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RugWarbo: I have 29,000+ files that I need to sort.05:46
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siriusnovaWarbo - oh ok05:47
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WarboRug: Just in the database or on your filesystem? I've become overly-organised with my files recently (even looking into FUSE database driven filesystems so I can browse in Nautilus by Artist or Genre, etc. (as my symbolic links are getting out of hand))05:48
maryols05:48
maryola05:48
Warbomary: Hello05:48
jmoncayohas somebodye ever used metacity?05:48
Warbojmoncayo: It's the default for GNOME05:49
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dextro_dudejmoncayo: fluxbox is better05:49
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Warbodextro_dude: Don't start that, or I'll get all Enlightenment on your ass05:49
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jmoncayoyea i am using fluxbox but i didnt know how good was metacity05:49
RugWarbo: that is my actual # of songs.  My list used to be perfectly organized; then on day I tried iTunes and it fubar'd my whole setup.  I have _never_ used simlinks.  Dir structure:  Genre - Artist - Album05:49
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ubuntu_erUSUL: thanks yep there are quite a few debs05:50
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WarboRug: Licence (Free or Commercial) > Artists or Collection > Album05:50
dextro_dudeWarbo: i'm on PII 333MHz, try 2 convince me to try Enlightenment05:50
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RugWarbo: that sounds confusing...05:51
Rugdextro_dude: flux05:51
Warbodextro_dude: I mean E16, not E17 (it's too annoying) E16 should work fine forr you (it was made in '99)05:51
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cdubyaanyone know why the partitioner for a Breezy install wouldn't be able to modify the partition table? I've not ever had any issues before, and have a friend who wants to dual boot with xp......so I went to set it up as I normally would, letting the installer resize the partition, and the partitioner would hang every time for a long while, then come up saying resizing was unsuccessful.05:52
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Rugcdubya: NTFS partition?05:52
dextro_dudeWarbo: Me stick to flux05:52
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Warbocdubya: I always use KNOPPIX QTParted to resize so I've never used Ubuntu's built in one05:52
erUSULcdubya: maybe the ntfs part is too full or too fragmented05:53
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dextro_dudentfs is evil ... but cool shit05:53
spencerkhi all. jack is working fine with connections and stuff, but it never plays anything on the speakers, and it doesnt seem to block the speakers for non-jack apps either. any ideas?05:53
p01n7use partition magic on windows05:53
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p01n7if you can boot windows05:53
WarboDon't you have to defag a fat32 partition before resizing (or it is done by the resizer anyway)05:53
WarboBut not NTFS05:54
RugWarbo: you should05:54
p01n7Warbo, ntfs too05:54
alain__hi all05:54
alain__how r u today?05:54
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ubuntu_erUSUL: imany thanks for your support05:54
dextro_dudealain__ :Hi05:54
[maven] anyone know how to install a non-686 optimized version of libc (for use on a Via C3, which I installed on a Pentium-M notebook)?05:54
tonyyarussoWarbo: Both need a good defragging.05:54
erUSULubuntu_: no problem05:54
Warbop01n7: Well is this handled by the resizer (defrags it then resizes) as I've never bothered but had no problems05:54
alain__dextro, how r u ?05:55
mlehrerhow painful is it to update an alsa driver in ubuntu05:55
PinoyDXBalph0s_ ..05:55
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p01n7Warbo, probably not05:55
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PinoyDXBmlehrer very painful!!!05:55
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dextro_dudealain__: fine mate. having fun with Ubuntu & JD Coke05:55
alain__yap05:55
p01n7Warbo, use windows to defrag and test again.. regardless if there is data or not in the slice you want to make.. it should still partition it05:55
alain__i installed it 3 days ago05:55
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mlehrerPinoyDXB: heh i figured.  i tried to just do the whole kernel but it wouldn't boot.  do you think that is the way to go?05:55
alain__and i like it more than windows05:55
PinoyDXB;)05:56
Warbop01n7: Well QTParted generally takes a few hours on a large NTFS drive and the progress bar doesn't move. Maybe it is defragging in this time...05:56
alain__where r u from?05:56
dextro_dudealain__: welcome to the family05:56
cdubyawhoa, sorry, had to step out for a bit to grab something from the car......no, the install on the xp side was an upgrade from 98, so it's a FAT32.05:56
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p01n7Warbo, QTParted will not defragment your drive for you05:57
dextro_dudecdubya: try pqmagic on windoze05:57
gravesonwhat is the difference between ubuntu 5.10 and ubuntu breezy05:57
alain__hehe, i have alot to learn about linux05:57
cdubyapqmagic?05:57
cdubyak05:57
alain__where r u from?05:57
dextro_dudegraveson: err, the spelling ?05:57
Warbop01n7: Oh well. I don't use any dual-boots anyway. Just when I give someone else Linux (when they come to me with a virus filled computer after I fixed it 2 weeks before)05:57
erUSULp01n7: yes it would move data around if needed afaik05:57
dextro_dudecdubya: partition magic from powerquest05:58
p01n7erUSUL, NTFS in question05:58
dextro_dudealain__: Malaysia05:58
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gravesondextro_dude: then why do ati provide 2 different packages for their ati driver ?05:58
alain__are u male or female?05:58
slackerngraveson: there is no difference, 5.10 is breezy it's just a name, 5.04 was named hoary.05:58
Warbograveson: I chose both just in case :)05:58
cdubyadextro_dude, ah, that's what I figgered, just makin sure05:58
tolkantrying to work on power management for my IBM T60... my CPU is not throttling according to battery... any ideas?05:58
gravesonwarbo: thanks05:59
dextro_dudepqmagic never failed on me when I was on windoze05:59
Rugalain__: that is not an appropriate line of questions for this channel05:59
dextro_dudealain__: i'm a dude .. a straight male. :p05:59
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p01n7 ....05:59
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alain__aha me too05:59
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Rugalain__: This channel is for discussing Ubuntu Linux.06:00
dextro_dudelinux doesn't discriminate .. male/female all welcome06:00
dextro_dudealain__: so stick with the topic man06:00
Warbodextro_dude: Male, Female, Other06:00
jcapoteanyone know of a good open source crm tool?06:00
jmoncayodextro_dude, do you know if can set a different background for each workspace in fluxbox06:00
tolkanany ideas on power management for a laptop? trying to get T2400 to properly throttle, not sure where to go... one CPU is at 1Ghz properly, other is at 1.806:01
dextro_dudeWarbo: ok, fine with me06:01
simonjmoncayo: It is possible, I have done it06:01
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Frogzoojcapote: there'll be crm modules for zope probly06:01
jmoncayosimon, how can you do it?06:01
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simonjmoncayo: It was a while back, I'll do a search06:01
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SS2simon: you maybe change youre nick, because there others that have that name to ;)06:01
SS2*may06:02
simonSS2: I was here first :)06:02
iqonis it common for updated packages to show up in apt before they are on packages.ubuntu.com?06:02
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dextro_dudejmoncayo: yes it could be done. but need to digg those old tutorials06:02
jmoncayocould you give me a hand?06:02
skeffI've added kde35 repositories for my amd64 breezy install. But when I try adding 'kdenetwork' it says something about unresolveable dependencies and doesn't install.06:03
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simonjmoncayo: http://fluxspace.sourceforge.net/06:03
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DarkEDhi, i need a little help06:05
jmoncayosimon, have you used aterm with transparency?06:05
DarkEDim trying to get my laptop's multimedia sound keys working06:05
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DarkEDthey work in gnome but not in kde06:05
DarkEDand a shell wont even pick them up06:05
dextro_dudejmoncayo: i'm using Eterm eventhough it's heavy06:05
simonjmoncayo: nope, I wouldn't dare to try somethig like that on a old machine :)06:05
hyphenatedDarkED: the guys in #kubuntu probably know how to get them working in KDE06:06
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dextro_dudedate06:06
munzirHi, What's the difference between amd64-generic, amd64-k8, amd64-server?06:06
dextro_dudeoops,sorry gang06:06
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jmoncayodextro_dude, i use aterm but with transparency it's getting odd, like it tryies to load the default bacground in the init file but not the one i set with fbsetbg06:07
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bliss1_hi06:07
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ompaulmunzir, got a contact for that?06:07
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ompaulmunzir, got a context for that?( woops )06:08
bliss1_whatis the comand line to launch nattulis as root is it sudo gktnaultis?06:08
ompaulgksudo program name06:08
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Warbobliss1_: sudo gksudo nautilus (maybe add --no-desktop if it draws your desktop)06:09
bliss1_ompual: hi thanks yes its just starting here06:09
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azamoraOLA06:09
h4ch3rhello06:09
juancahello everyone06:09
munzirompaul: sorry I didn't understand you06:09
h4ch3rhelp me06:09
h4ch3rhttp://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/14806:09
azamoraq tal06:09
azamoraestas06:09
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azamoraeres mujer o ombre06:09
juancaazamora: hola06:09
sfar!es06:09
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:09
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Rugh4ch3r: please?06:09
h4ch3r06:10
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DNA_String_Problem: Ubuntu runs sssssssssssssllllllllllllooooooooowwwwwwwwww. It takes over 20 minutes to go from login to desktop.06:10
ompaulmunzir, got a context for that question? you got those phrases from somewhere06:10
RugDNA_String_: what cpu do you have?06:10
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bliss1_Warbo; thanks i bear that in mind06:10
dextro_dudeDNA_String_: dang, slower than me06:10
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eth42how come that my ~/.bashrc is not executed for tty-logins and ssh-logins?06:10
h4ch3ruse dapper06:11
Benaguaquit06:11
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juancahello everyone, can someone tell me where I can find the kernel-source package for kernel-image-2.6.12-10.30? I can't find it in the breezy repositories06:11
h4ch3ralquem fala portuques aqui?06:11
Rugeth42: have you tried loggin out completely?06:11
skeffeth42, I don't know.06:11
Warbojuanca: All of those minor version numbers don't apply to the source. It's just 2.6.1206:12
juancaeth42: .bashrc is for X, .bash_profile for tty/ssh06:12
DNA_String_-Checking-06:12
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h4ch3rhttp://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/14806:12
erUSUL!tell h4ch3r about pt06:12
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munzirompaul: yes there is http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/breezy/base/linux-image-amd64-k8 and http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/breezy/base/amd64-generic. My system automatically choose the k8 version and reported an error and gave me an option to choose another one. I chose generic and it's installing now ...06:12
juancaWarbo: thanks for the answer, I just see 2.6.10 and 2.6.11 but no 2.6.1206:12
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munzirompaul: s/breezy/dapper06:13
Warbojuanca: Oh, well I'm in Dapper so I can only check by looking through the breezy repos in Epiphany06:13
bliss1_ompaul; what advantages are there if any of useing dapper rather than BB 5-1006:13
ompaulmunzir, ohh I would have done this cdimage.ubuntu.com06:13
Rugh4ch3r: Sorry I am English-only06:13
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ompaulbliss1_, well gnome 2.14 is faster than 2.1206:13
h4ch3rarhgg06:13
juancaWarbo: and tell me do you see the kernel-source package for 2.6.12 in those repos?06:14
munzirompaul: sorry?06:14
eth42Rug, juanca: have the same ~/.bashrc and ~/.bash_profile on two machines. on one, login with X and tty are the same, on the other it isn't... ??06:14
ompaulbliss1_, its pretty but its still devel and dapper is in #ubuntu+1 (did I say xgl not something I am going to do)06:14
tonyyarussoDNA_String_: That's some serious issues there.  Grub to desktop is under two minutes for me, more like one and a half really.  Hopefully we get that straightened out for ya.06:14
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ompaulbliss1_, make that yet06:14
Warbojuanca: Just checking06:14
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eth42juanca: thanks for the hint. ~/.bash_profile sources ~/.bashrc06:14
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juancaWarbo: thanks :)06:14
Rugeth42: have you made sure that you fully log-out?06:14
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arrickhello all06:15
ompaulbliss1_, it should bring more users to Ubuntu so ...06:15
eth42Rug: what do you mean? if I login on tty1 and set my bash prompt in .bashrc, what do you mean by fully log-out?06:15
Rugarrick: Howdy06:15
juancaeth42: I don't know why they make that different either one should be enough, but that's how it goes06:15
arrickanyone here know how to change the default website in apache2 from index.html to someothername.html?06:15
Rugeth42: keep typing exit  or logout until you see the login prompt06:16
eth42Rug: ok. yes, I was sure that I was fully logged-out. :-)06:16
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Warbojuanca: There is a linux-source-2.6.12 directory and it is full of linux-image and linux-tree and linux-headers but the only references I can see to source are .diff files, not .debs06:16
juancaarrick: try changing the pertinent entry in the conf file06:17
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bliss1_ompaul: now watch the flames from my xchat treminal consume whaen i say I think the support for the ubuntu distro is the beat it s really rocks but the packages are a little behind which is maybe a good thing but sarge is rock soild06:17
bliss1_solid06:17
bliss1_best06:17
Warbojuanca: Here you go linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-10.30_all.deb06:17
Frogzooeth42: best to put your environment settings in .gnomerc imo06:18
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dextro_dudebliss1_: and I thought debian is obsolete ...06:18
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juancaWarbo: cool :)06:18
Rugbliss1_: yeah it's a compromise.   New-as-possible + Stable-enough06:18
juancaWarbo: can I get the url?06:18
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Warbojuanca: The whole url is: "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-10.30_all.deb"06:18
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ompaulmunzir, okay I would always start with generic the server version is literally that it has more server grade packages on the CD than the gui one, but nothing you could not find in the repos06:19
DNA_String_The processor is a pentium III. The system is an IBM Thinkpad 600X. General information at http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=ibm&lndocid=MIGR-4CYN8Z06:19
arrickjuanca, if I could find the right page thats what I would have done, could you point me in the right direction?06:19
Warbojuanca: You could probably force install it then apt-get -f install to fix any missing dependancies06:19
tonyyarussoDNA_String_: That's...wacky.06:19
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bliss1_arrick: did you do the qemu install and kqemu?06:19
juancaWarbo: great !06:19
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dextro_dudeDNA_String_: yay, my PII smoked ur PIII06:20
arrickbliss1_, no, I got thevirtual hosts to work06:20
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juancaarrick: /etc/http/conf/http.conf06:20
bliss1_arrick: well done06:20
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ice60can someone help me with a cron, please?06:20
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George007!ircd06:21
ubotuGeorge007: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:21
dextro_dudeDNA_String_: is ur HDD healthy ?06:21
arrickthanks juanca06:21
munzirompaul: but then what's the difference between generic and k8 please?06:21
ompaulmunzir, I suppose there is a kernel versions there but it does not make sense to me this might help http://www.chip-architect.com/news/2003_09_21_Detailed_Architecture_of_AMDs_64bit_Core.html06:21
ompaulbut k8 is amd64 ...06:21
arrickbliss1_, if you would like a tutorial on it, I am going to put it on my site http://arriclk.no-ip.com06:21
juancaarrick: sorry I don't have a apache server on this computer, else I would have help you more than that06:21
ompaulfrom my understanding06:21
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juancaWarbo, thanks again, actually I forgot the package's named linux-source not kernel-source :( duhhhhhhh06:22
ice60will this work? if i put it in crontab -e i want it to run once on a Monday -06:22
ice6055 16  * * mon find ~/.thumbnails -type f -atime +7 -exec rm {} \;06:22
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bliss1_arrick: thanks I will take a look I have tried qemu and kqemu next is XEN but maybe  on ubuntu i am not sure06:23
DNA_String_Probably not, it is an old system, many parts are broken. The sound did not play on startup, the ethernet network card is a pcmia card, maybe something wrong with bios, video screen cracked, battery is dead (and currently disconnected), plenty of places for something to hang up and just not work.06:23
arrickok blis06:23
oscarHi06:23
DNA_String_How would I tell if my HDD is healthy?06:23
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dextro_dudeice60: i think u shud put the command in a shellscript and call the .shfile frm cron06:24
ompaulmunzir, okay the generic will work in the x64 version from intel the other one is AMD06:25
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noaXesshi all06:25
agliv5ok, I was gone for a while... anyone able to help me with k3b freezing when I try to burn a DVD?06:25
ice60dextro_dude: thanks, i'll look into it. i'm going to learn about crons too though, i'll read up on them both06:25
oscarI'm having problems connecting to my ssh service. I knot the service is working because I connected like this: ssh localhost. I let the 22 port open in the firewall, but still when I try to connect to my IP I get the following: ssh: connect to host ***.***.**.*** port 22: Connection refused06:25
oscar*know06:25
noaXesswhat is the latest kernel for ubuntu? is it 2.6.12-10-386?06:26
ompaulmunzir, Generic= Linux kernel image on x86_64.06:26
ompaul Itanium  the other one  is for AMD K8 the generic will work on both06:26
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ompaulmunzir, at least that is what I glean from my quick tour around a few sites06:26
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bliss1_nick|here: yep i am sure you are hope all is ok06:27
agliv5Anyone? k3b problems?  DVD burning?06:27
juancanoaXess: that would be for breezy, for dapper I think is 2.6.15xxx06:27
munzirompaul: Umm! so k8 for itanium? but itanium is not amd64!06:27
FrogzoonoaXess: if you've a p2 or better, you'd do better with 2.6.12-10-686?06:27
noaXessjuanca: yea, breezy.. are there some newer?06:27
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ompaulmunzir no generic amd and intel --- k 8 amd only06:27
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noaXessFrogzoo: hm.. its a 600mhz notebook06:27
juancanot that I know, I have an up-to-date system and that is the version running06:27
munzirompaul: ah I got you now06:28
agliv5Frogzoo did you get those permissions that I sent you?  What do you make of them?06:28
bliss1_arrick; just tried your web page from the url you gace but no joy06:28
juancanoaXess: I have a Thinkpad T20 700Mhz running with 2.6.12-10-686 and everythings to the top :)06:29
munzirompaul: so generic works for itanium accoring to your guess?06:29
arrickhttp://arrick.no-ip.com ?06:29
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noaXessjuanca: yea.. mine is pIII60006:29
eth42Rug, juanca: ok, solved it. I added the user with useradd -m and thought this would also set the shell to bash by default. but it didn't and executed sh instead of bash...06:29
ompaulmunzir, from what it says on the web page yes06:29
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Frogzooagliv5: ls -lL /dev/cdrom06:30
arrickbliss1_, where are you located at?06:30
agliv5Frogzoo hang on a sec06:30
eugmanAnyone know where I can get a mudlist file for gnome mud?06:30
bliss1_arrick: surrey uk06:30
ompaulmunzir, when we think itanium we remember that intel have accepted some of the amd64 extentions in there :)06:30
arrickah, it will take abotu 24 hrs for the dns to kick in there06:30
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agliv5Frogzoo lrwxrwxrwx  1 root agliv5 3 /dev/cdrom/06:30
bliss1_arrick: oh ok06:30
arrickdid you open it from here?06:30
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bliss1_arrick: yep06:31
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juancaeth42: glad to hear is solved :)06:31
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arricktry http://715.116.179.219:80 bliss1_06:31
DewDudehas anyone gotten Realtek8180 WLAN cards to work under Breezy06:31
noaXessjuanca: can i easy install the other kernel? linux-image....?06:32
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bliss1_ompaul: just on a fine point seen a howto on xen into sarge no reason why it would not work on ubuntu just a thought?06:32
ompaulDewDude, have you have tried System Administration Networking from the menu?06:32
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DewDudei haven't installed ubuntu yet06:32
DewDudei'm getting ready to06:33
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Frogzooagliv5: you missed the capital 'L' -  'ls -lL /dev/cdrom'06:33
agliv5DewDude I gave up and connected via ethernet06:33
juancanoaXess: yeap,  no prob, just sudo apt-get install linux-image and select from the list of available choices06:33
ompaulDewDude, look at this before you start06:33
Rugeth42: good to hear06:33
juancanoaXess: notice the former sends an "error" message06:33
jadacyrushow can i find out which version of Xorg im running06:33
ompaul!tell DewDude about ndiswrapper06:33
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noaXessjuanca: will the bootloader automaticaly be updated with the new kernel?06:33
cilkayHello. I'm trying to install the Sun Java Studio Creator 2 on Kubuntu. It suggests that I install RPMs for compat-libstdc++ and compat-libstdc++-devel. Obviously I can't install those RPMs but I haven't found any packages that resemble that. Any ideas?06:33
DewDudeyeah, i saw that06:34
ompaulDewDude, did not see the wlan part there06:34
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DewDudeyeah, it's a Gigafast card06:34
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bliss1_arrick: nope 715? not seen that before06:34
FrogzoonoaXess: yep, amazing huh06:34
DewDudebut based on the serial and FCCID it's got a Realtek8180 card. Gigafast has linux drivers, but they look like they're for 2.4 kernel06:34
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cilkayFound it: http://my.opera.com/vetler/blog/show.dml/14857606:34
DNA_String_Problem recap: It takes over 20 minutes to go from login to desktop. The processor is a pentium III. The system is an IBM Thinkpad 600X. It is an old system, many parts are broken. The sound did not play on startup, the ethernet network card is a pcmia card, maybe something wrong with bios, video screen cracked, battery is dead (and currently disconnected), plenty of places for something to...06:34
DNA_String_...hang up and just not work. Someone asked if my hard drive was healthy and other than the fact that it can read and write files, how would I check?06:34
agliv5Frogzoo brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22, 006:34
`Theus`Hi, how can I use xfonts-konsole?06:34
arrickhey bliss1_ my typo. 21506:35
noaXessFrogzoo: yea.. its nice :)06:35
Frogzooagliv5: do you belong to the 'cdrom' group?06:35
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juancanoaXess: yeap, but if you've added extra params to you booting strings you need to "twick" a little bit, my advise use the config file section to specify those and issue a 'sudo update-grub'06:35
tonyyarussoDNA_String_: Maybe the 'testdisk' program?06:35
Dakirithanyone know of a good apt source for mysql 5? i'd rather not compile my own...06:35
arrickmorning tonyyarusso06:35
`Theus`after installation return this error: Font `-misc-console-medium-r-normal--16-160-72-72-c-80-iso10646-1' not found.06:35
`Theus`Check /usr/share/doc/konsole/README.Linux-font for help.06:35
dextro_dudeDNA_String_: try fsck06:35
noaXessdo i see with cat /proc/cpuinfo if my cpu is smp?06:35
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DewDudei do have an advantage that if it doesn't work, there is a lan port on here06:35
tonyyarussoarrick: Hello.06:35
icemanweird, I am now using athlon 700 and devoted it to linux ...06:35
agliv5Frogzoo good question, hang on and I'll try to find out06:36
KillazHi, maybe not an unbiased place to ask... but how does Ubuntu perform as a server?06:36
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noaXessjuanca: okey.. there are noe extra parms... but thanks for info06:36
arrickbliss1_, man I had it all screwed up try thistry http://71.115.179.219:8006:36
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DakirithKillaz: i'm running it as a development server right now, it's running pretty well, and i love apt-get06:37
FrogzooKillaz: about on par with any other linux server06:37
yggdrasilhey how can i figure out which wireless card is in my laptop. dapper saw it and its working i just dont know what i have in there ..06:37
bliss1_arrick: wo sick man06:37
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arrickbliss1_, huh?06:37
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Dakirithyggdrasil:lspci?06:37
agliv5Frogzoo yes agliv5 ist part of the cdrom group06:37
intelnuxany problems running it as a headless server, other then telling bios to not worry?06:37
Frogzooyggdrasil: lspci06:37
almuleonola06:37
KillazDakirith: that's is exactly what I need a dev server/ filserver at home to develop and host my files06:37
noaXessyggdrasil: view your logs, dmesg or /var/log/messages06:37
yggdrasili dont wee it in there guys06:37
bliss1_arrick; means its fine sick means good06:38
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arrickoh ok06:38
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clem_yeatsis there a console tool to set the network.. same as done during install ?06:38
arrickyou like th product page, did you chase the link?06:38
KillazDakirith: you have it running with X or only prompt?06:38
almuleonola  de donde eres ?06:38
Frogzooagliv5: have you enabled DMA on the drive?06:38
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DakirithKillaz: only prompt06:38
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DakirithKillaz: i'm more a CLI guy06:38
almuleoneeeeeeeeeeeeee queeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee06:38
erUSUL!tell almuleon about es06:38
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arrick!just ask06:39
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick06:39
yggdrasilthanks guys06:39
agliv5Frogzoo I tried to how do I determine if I was successfull?06:39
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arrick!justask06:39
ubotuAsk your question and we'll try to answer it.06:39
almuleonabla en espanol06:39
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juancaalmuleon: por favor usa #ubuntu-es06:39
arrickalmuleon, type /j #ubuntu-es me no comprende espanol06:39
almuleongeehn06:39
KillazDakirith: yeah me 2... but I'm just wondering if I should install X, so my gf or friends can login once in a while when they come around..06:39
Frogzooagliv5: sudo hdparm -d /dev/cdrom06:40
bliss1_erUSUL: thanks for your help in live cd nick was ubuntu_06:40
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vincent-ON3SScan I ask a question+06:40
DakirithKillaz: if it is just going to be a dev server/file server, then they shouldn't be logging into it06:40
almuleoneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee06:40
arrick!justask06:40
ubotuAsk your question and we'll try to answer it.06:40
arrick!ops06:40
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee06:40
noaXessvincent-ON3SS: why you are here?06:40
erUSULbliss1_: no problem. that's why we are here for06:40
almuleonde donde eres06:40
munzirompaul: intel copied some of amd64 implementation but not to itanium. they copied it to their EM84 arch, right?06:40
arrickalmuleon, adios06:40
KillazDakirith: some kind of guest account with little access... only so they can surf on the net06:40
arrickengles por favor06:40
almuleonx06:40
agliv5Frogzoo using_dma = 1 (on)06:41
almuleonola06:41
ompaulmunzir, yeap, sorry I am working on something and its not going well06:41
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vincent-ON3SSIf i would be root--> on debian i typ just su but on ubuntu I must typ sudo su is it posibly to typ just su to be root06:41
munzirompaul: thx for all your help. I did understand it now anyway06:41
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DakirithAnyone know of any good apt sources for recent builds of MySQL 5?06:41
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erUSULalmuleon: deja de hacer el crio y vete de aqu06:41
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Frogzooagliv5: open k3b - goto setting -> configure k3b -> programs    are all the necessary programs installed?06:42
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almuleonola06:43
DNA_String_Additional information, it *just* poped up with three errors: "The panel encountered a problem while loading OAFID: XXXXXXXXXXXX", "The panel encountered [...]  OAFID: Gnome_NotificationAreaApplet", and "The panel encountered [...]  OAFID: Gnome_Panel_WirelessApplet". I reflexively clicked away the first one before reading it, stupid stupid me.06:43
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noaXessreboooott...06:43
bliss1_ompaul; why has your status been removed06:43
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andreadihello there06:43
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ompaulban avoidance gets bigger kicks06:44
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andreadican anyone tell me if ubuntu is incombatible with X1300?06:44
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andreadior when can I find a list of compatible cards?06:44
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stamen81!ati06:44
ubotu[ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358906:44
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bliss1_ompaul: wo such bliss1_ trembles in his wellies06:44
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ompaulbliss1_, behave06:45
bliss1_ompaul; ok06:45
dextro_dudebye dude, me going to crash ... nice talking with ya'll06:45
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agliv5frogzoo all after sox are not found... how do I correct this?06:45
mDothey got my large pack 'o ubuntu disc... what to do....06:45
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Frogzooagliv5: you'll need to install them of course06:46
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agliv5frogzoo of course but where do i find them?06:46
andreadithanks a lot stamen8106:46
DNA_String_I know linux can run on a toothbrush, but I'm being very frustrated with how my first home linux attempt is going... :(06:46
agliv5frogzoo should I search the repository or internet06:46
Frogzooagliv5: in the repos - try synaptic06:46
stamen81andreadi, for wha?:)06:47
stamen81andreadi, for what?:)06:47
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nickgarveyDNA_String_: what's not working?06:47
andreadifor the help on ATI06:47
agliv5Frogzoo will search06:47
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braskohi all, I need to install a DNS server ASAP on my ubuntu machine.06:47
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braskoI installed bind906:48
Frogzoo!k3b06:48
ubotuK3b was created to be a feature-rich and easy to handle CD burning application, for more info goto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/K3BHowto06:48
boscoare there gui differences in dapper compared to breezy and does it still use gnome as the default06:48
Frogzooagliv5: check the howto ^^^06:48
bliss1_Frogzoo: happy you seem these days how are things down under06:48
braskobut can't figure out how to put in the named.conf file the IP address/name of machines in our network.06:48
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braskoAny help? desparate.06:48
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Frogzoohi bliss1_ same old same old06:48
vincent-ON3SSare there in ubuntu 5.10 drivers for acx10006:48
FlannelKingbosco: it does use gnome, the differences aren't major.06:48
jendaHELP! My Ubuntu has frozen completely (music stops playing, keyboard responding, cursors animating...) twice during the past two days. Any idea what could've caused this? Ubuntu 5.10, Linux 2.6.12-10-38606:49
jenda, Pentium4...06:49
boscoFlannelKing,  so then it is deffinatly worth the upgrade06:49
DNA_String_It takes over 20 minutes to go from login to desktop. The processor is a pentium III. The system is an IBM Thinkpad 600X. It is an old system, many parts are broken. (The sound did not play on startup, the ethernet network card is a pcmia card, maybe something wrong with bios, video screen cracked, battery is dead (and currently disconnected), plenty of places for something to hang up and...06:49
DNA_String_...just not work.) After taking forever to load from the login page it poped up with three errors: "The panel encountered a problem while loading OAFID: XXXXXXXXXXXX", "The panel encountered [...]  OAFID:Gnome_NotificationAr eaApplet", and "The panel encountered [...]  OAFID: Gnome_Panel_WirelessApplet". I reflexively clicked away the first one before reading it (stupid, stupid me).06:49
ompaulDNA_String_, you also seem to think that the box you have is dying on its feet so I would be inclinded to say get a live CD and see how it goes -- if it fails to boot I would be looking at that hardware with great skepticism06:49
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h4ch3rarrghh06:49
Warbojenda: Are you using an nvidia binary driver?06:49
h4ch3rdevil dapper06:49
h4ch3r06:49
bliss1_Frogzoo: going give Xen a go not in sarge but ubuntu hip hip?06:49
Frogzoojenda: typically with crashes, the x driver is the chief suspect - which video card do you have?06:49
jendaWarbo: indeed I am.06:49
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Frogzoobliss1_: if you want to run doze, give qemu/kqemu a looksee06:49
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Warbojenda: Well it can be quick dodgy at times. You aren't trying to use Composite and GLX at the same time are you?06:50
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jendaFrogzoo: GeForce 206:50
ompaul***** News Flash ***** dapper conversations should be in the channel #ubuntu+1 thanks06:50
Warboquite06:50
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Frogzoo!tell jenda about nvidia06:50
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i3dmastermy firefox is broken06:50
Frogzoojenda: check the pm from ubotu, & update your vid driver06:50
jendaWarbo: AFAIK, I use glx, but not composite06:50
noaXessjuanca: new kernel up and running :)06:50
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noaXess2.6.12-10-68606:50
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jendaFrogzoo: I will...06:51
i3dmasterThe program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.06:51
i3dmasterThis probably reflects a bug in the program.06:51
i3dmasterThe error was 'BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib length erro'.06:51
i3dmaster  (Details: serial 1465 error_code 16 request_code 154 minor_code 20)06:51
i3dmaster  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;06:51
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i3dmaster   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.06:51
i3dmaster   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line06:51
Warbojenda: You would know if you use composite (you have to enable it) but you can only use it at the same time as GLX in the very latest driver (AFAIK only in Dapper)06:51
i3dmaster   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful06:51
Frogzooi3dmaster: no spamming please06:51
i3dmaster   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)06:51
juancanoaXess: cool :)06:51
jendai3dmaster: please use the pastebin06:51
i3dmasterjenda, what's that and how?06:51
ompauli3dmaster, don't do that again06:51
juancanoaXess: so? what is easy or what?06:51
jadaz87!tell i3dmaster about enter06:51
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jadaz87!tell i3dmaster about pastebin06:52
bliss1_Frogzoo: I have already just need your little script to get kqemu moving?06:52
noaXessjuanca: double easy.. hanging in chair and relax, while my kubunt installs the new kernel..06:52
Frogzooi3dmaster: ompaul's an op - so take the caution advisedly06:52
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noaXessLOL06:52
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juancanoaXess: :)06:52
i3dmasterFrogzoo, np. where I can see how to paste?06:52
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fliegenderfroschis is possible to resize a FAT32 partition?06:52
noaXessother queatin: is there a linux tool to convert mp4/m4p to mp3?06:53
arrick!pastebin06:53
erUSULfliegenderfrosch: yes06:53
ubotupastebin is, like, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126906:53
noaXess.... question ...06:53
Warbofliegenderfrosch: Sure06:53
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fliegenderfroschok with which programm?06:53
fliegenderfroschqtparted failed06:53
noaXess!mp406:53
ubotunoaXess: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:53
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arrickmorning nickgarvey06:53
Frogzoobliss1_: my script won't work for you as I'm running qemu 0.806:53
fliegenderfroschand the ubuntu-installer too06:53
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arrickmorning nickrud, sorry nickgarvey that was for him06:53
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hawk_wolfcan someone help me configure guidedog so that I can route traffic to my girlfriends computer06:54
ompaulfliegenderfrosch, was it mounted when you tried to resize it?06:54
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nickrudgood morning arrick06:54
bliss1_Frogzoo; are i see you did not get from apt-get you got the source?06:54
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Frogzoobliss1_: yep, and the networking's all changed06:54
fliegenderfroschompaul, i don't think so, i tried it with knoppix and qtparted06:54
triceratopsis apache2 in ubuntu compiled with large file suport(gt 2GB)06:54
DNA_String_I feel validated that your suggestion was what I had already decided to do. Exactly the same issues, after XWindows comes up (no login screen in LiveCD) it takes over 20 minutes to load, and ends with three error messages. I already know that the hardware is questionable. However, the laptop ran Windows XP fine. Please don't tell me that MS succeeds on archaic hardware where linux cannot. :D06:54
ompaulfliegenderfrosch, I thought knoppix mounted all the partitions automagically, maybe I am wrong06:55
Frogzoo!tell i3dmaster about pastebin06:55
_guMuTpoBi read the ubuntu how2 install wiki, and still dont understand how to install it to hdd without burning the iso, in other distribution ive used you could tell the installer to use images stored on hdd, but this seems not to be possible with ubuntu, am I wrong ?06:55
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WarboDNA_String_: That's exactly what you need to say to get some help. Nobody can stand windoze beating linux!06:55
hawk_wolfis anybody familiar with using guidedog?06:55
fliegenderfroschompaul, i try to unmount it and then i'll try it again06:55
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i3dmasterok, I pasted to the pastebin. hope someone can take a look and bring me some lights on that06:56
DNA_String_That's why I said it :D06:56
bliss1_Frogzoo; network as in http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66694 or something diffrent06:56
WarboDNA_String_: Sadly I can't help though06:56
Frogzooi3dmaster: now post the url back here, so people can find it06:56
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jendaFrogzoo, what are the chances updating the legacy nvidia driver will help me? It has alwoys been a pain to do and the apt-get way doesn't work for me for some reason...06:56
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i3dmasterand sorry for spamming at the first time.06:56
bliss1_nickrud: welcome!06:56
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ompaulWarbo, he needs to check his hardware out from top to bottom - it seems to be flakey and really a live CD is the way to do that - perhaps DSL given its lack of resource hunger would be best06:56
Frogzoojenda: ask the channel - I run ati06:56
i3dmasterhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1251206:56
nickrudhello bliss06:57
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=== ompaul pokes bliss1_ did you read your pm?
karljpanyone know where to configure touchpads? (in breezy/dapper?) the mouse thing in system->prefs works great for the mouse, but not the pad06:57
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jendaChannel: what are the chances updating the legacy nvidia driver will help me fix total freezing (icl. kbd and mouse)? It has always been a pain to do and the apt-get way doesn't work for me for some reason...06:57
bliss1_nickrud: hello seem a bit down or are you fired and ready to go06:57
jendaFrogzoo: ;)06:57
mwekarljp: synaptic?06:58
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DutchyTotem is supposed to be able to play XviD .avi's isnt it? naruto doesnt seem to work here06:58
Frogzoobliss1_: I'd say that guide should get you up & running06:58
bliss1_ompaul: i replied i am missing something?06:58
mwekarljp: is it a synaptics tp?06:58
jadaz87!tell Dutchy about restrictedformats06:58
nickrudbliss1_, wary of getting too deeply involved today. I'm killing about a half hour before a metting06:58
ompaulbliss1_, did not notice :-/06:58
Frogzoojenda: just make sure the driver you're trying to install is supported by your card06:58
damian_meh, my Ubuntu installation freezes on 'Preparing for installation ...' after the reboot .. any ideas what could be wrong? :/06:58
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fliegenderfroschompaul, they were not mounted06:59
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nickrudDutchy, if you install the totem-xine & w32codecs packages yes. See that link theat jadaz87 sent06:59
jendaFrogzoo: the binary nvidia legacy... how can I go wrong...?06:59
hawk_wolfnobody knows how to configure guidedog?06:59
Dutchyjadaz87, been there done that installed w32codecs... but afaik Totem plays mpeg/xvid etc by default06:59
bliss1_Frogzoo: yes i know but did you use it or something diffrent06:59
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ompaulfliegenderfrosch, then I have no ideas for you other than to nuke the full partition and take it all to ext3 or something else thats useful06:59
Dutchybut ill check if i have totem-xine07:00
Frogzoobliss1_: I rolled my own, but this should work fine07:00
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ompaul!tell damian_ about bootOptions07:00
introverseanyone in here running xgl/compiz in gnome?07:00
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karljpmwe: no, it's an alps one.07:00
ompaulbliss1_, did you send it to me or someone else?07:00
introversei have it running with a couple problems ;(07:00
chuckI am a newby for sure07:00
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karljpit works, I just need to turn up the speed a bit, just like for the mouse, as I'm running on 1900x120007:01
FlannelKingintroverse: #ubuntu-xgl or at the very least, #ubuntu+107:01
chuckI hated MSuck so I thought I would try this07:01
jadaz87!tell introverse about xgl07:01
bliss1_Frogzoo; i followed part of it , as i had 0.7.2 already installed suppose i could upgrade?07:01
bliss1_ompaul: its in the ompaul channel07:01
nickrudchuck, welcome then. Any particular questions?07:01
felipe__how can i see wich is my ip?07:02
mwekarljp: I don't know. tpconfig maybe. I have a synaptics07:02
Trynemjoelwww.whatismyip.com felipe__07:02
damian_sp o07:02
damian_eh.07:02
damian_so i'd need to restart the instlalation and try it again07:02
chuckhow do you get mp3 to work07:02
lgcgnomefreak, do you know how can one temporarily disable the synaptics touchpad?07:02
damian_i would have assumed all of the extra stuff would be taken out, i'm doing the 'server' install of 5.1007:02
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nickrudchuck, mp3 is supported on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats , along with a bunch of other non-free media stuff07:03
_guMuTpoBonly solution so far is to mount the iso, to a /dev/sdaX like dir but I do not know how 2 do this, only place where this is mentioned says I will need to make a "dummy" partition, which is not something I am willing to do07:03
eth42does anyone use the gnome keyboard switcher?07:03
eth42(and does it work on any other computer??)07:03
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felipe__Trynemjoel, something is wrong, when I type ifconfig I dont see my Ip anywhere, and theip that whatismyip detects is wrong07:04
juancaeth42: I do use it07:04
Trynemjoelfelipe__, whatismyip.com detects your domain ip, you didnt specify what IP you wanted to see07:04
juancathough I've seen/read some problems using a config file with 105 keys, they recommend 10407:05
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eth42juanca: it doesn't work at all for me. which layouts do you use? what does gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd say?07:05
DNA_String_I must leave now, thanks for trying to help.07:05
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yggdrasilcan somone help me get kismet working with my orinoco07:05
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Doathooray \o/ i got my ubuntu up and running07:06
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Doatstill having problems to connect to the internet though07:06
Frogzoobliss1_: sure07:06
haggisWhat is the drapper irc support chanel07:06
Frogzoo#ubuntu+107:07
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kkathmandapper07:07
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felipe__Trynemjoel, This computer is directly connected to the adsl modem whatismyip.com should tell me my ip. When I type ifconfig I get the following:  inet addr:192.168.1.2  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.007:07
felipe__          inet6 addr: fe80::216:ecff:fe34:e792/64 Scope:Link07:07
fliegenderfroschwhat can i do if i want to resize a fat32 partition but qtparted says, there is a error in ped_file_system_resize?07:07
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bliss1_Frogzoo: so how I mean delete 0.7.2 start again and followthe how to from scratch?07:08
kkathmanlol amazing how many people think its drapper :)07:08
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ryanpghi all... anyone know if there's an xorg 7.1 rc1 repo around somewhere?07:08
gnomefreaklgc: no i dont07:08
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gnomefreak!touchpad07:08
ubotugnomefreak: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:08
gnomefreakyes :(07:08
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Frogzoobliss1_: check in the Makefile in the source directory - there should be a target for 'make uninstall'07:08
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Ummmmmheya -- anyone know where i can get ati drivers?07:09
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Frogzoo!fglrx07:09
ubotuit has been said that fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:09
gnomefreakubotu tell Ummmmm about ati07:09
Ummmmmya :)07:09
lgcgnomefreak, sorry about the windmill...07:09
Ummmmmta*07:09
gnomefreakeh07:09
bliss1_Frogzoo; just a sec I did not install 0.7.2 from source it was apt-get or are you talking about something else07:10
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juancaeth42:  layouts = [ch  fr,us   intl]  model = options = [grp grp:alts_toggle]  overrideSettings = true07:10
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juancaeth42:  I think you have to log out your session for changes to take effect07:10
Frogzooblight_: oh ok, then just uninstall from synaptic07:11
DutchyI have totem-xine and w32codecs but it doesnt seem to work for me (and earlier I had totem-gstreamer and i already did everything on the restricted formats page)07:11
Frogzoobliss1_: oh ok, then just uninstall from synaptic07:11
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eth42juanca: ok, thanks a lot!! I will try your settings with log out07:11
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Frogzoodamn tabs07:11
bliss1_Frogzoo: then jut follw the howto i suppose07:12
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Frogzoobliss1_: that should do the trick07:12
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bliss1_Frogzoo; just bear in mnd that bridging as per the howto is set up already07:13
steveireMy flash player won't play any sounds07:13
steveireIt's behaving as if it were muted.07:13
steveireAny ideas?07:13
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Frogzoobliss1_: well then that should probably work fine, networking only changed with 0.807:13
bliss1_Frogzoo: eh07:14
icemankind of weird to actualt devote a pc to linux07:14
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bliss1_Frogzoo; but its 0.7.2 i am deleting and 0.8.0 i am getting from source07:15
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naskyhi all07:15
vashhowdy07:15
kkathmaniceman:  why's that?07:15
Frogzooiceman: I had dual boot for a while, but I needed the space for pron, so doze had to go07:15
mwesteveire: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8433707:15
Frogzooiceman: you have to have your priorities :)07:15
vashhow much pron are we talking here Frogzoo?07:15
naskyi'd like to know why it's Firefox 1.0.7 which is installed on Ubuntu and not the last version which is 1.5 ?07:16
hawk_wolf  I'm trying to turn my computer into a router so that my gfreind and I can be online at the same time sharing a cable connection.07:16
Doathow can i create an ssh connection in ubuntu?07:16
Frogzoovash: about 20gig :)07:16
bliss1_nickrud: got a slight repremand yesterday07:16
vashnice07:16
Frogzoolol07:16
hawk_wolfI have 2 nic cards intstalled07:16
gnomefreaknasky: because 1.5 can out after breezy was released07:16
hawk_wolfone to the modem and one to her computer.07:16
mwesteveire: sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2debian-all07:16
icemancant yet devote my windows box to linux, to much critical data ... once i get it moved ... i'll devote it to linux07:16
gnomefreaknasky: FF1.5 is not an updated version its a new browser07:16
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nickrudbliss1_, you don't count here till you've been kicked at least once :)07:16
Frogzoonasky: cos that's what was available when they froze breezy, but you can upgrade07:16
gnomefreakubotu tell nasky about ff1.507:17
Frogzoo!tell nasky about ff1.507:17
hawk_wolfany sugestions  on how to configure the os to alllow that?07:17
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bliss1_nickrud: ok then how about this!07:17
vashanyways, I just installed Breezy on my girlfriend's computer and it won't detect her wireless card (it's a damned-near new Dell D610...Centrino so I'm assuming it's an IPW2200)...for the life of me, can't figure out why it isn't showing up07:17
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perceptorteste07:18
erUSULhawk_wolf: to allow what?07:18
vashany ideas?07:18
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icemanwould try xandros ... but to expencive ...07:18
naskythank you guys about ff1.5 :)07:18
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RugHow could I find out the total space used for this:  ftp://ftp.cs.mun.ca/pub/mirror/ubuntu/dists/07:18
hawk_wolfTo allow me to use my computer and also have it route the internet to a windows box07:18
Frogzoovash: should be eth1 if it's a 2200 - what does lspci say?07:18
gnomefreaknasky: just remember leave ff1.0.7 wher eit is _do_ _not_ uninstall it07:19
bliss1_Frogzoo: see my post07:19
mwegnomefreak: just say d.c.c s.e.n.d without the dots :)07:19
gnomefreaklol mwe07:19
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gnomefreaki was kicked a few days ago07:19
gnomefreakim good for now07:19
erUSULhawk_wolf: you have to allow ip_forwarding i do not know how to do this with firestarter though07:19
Frogzoobliss1_: I don't see the problem?07:19
mwegnomefreak: heh07:19
Doathey gnomefreak, i got my ubuntu installed :)07:19
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majkhiihello07:20
gnomefreakDoat: me too ;)07:20
bliss1_Frogzoo; ok thanks fine I just was a bit worried about what you said07:20
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naskyfor FF1.5, there is none package .deb? i have to take the .tar.gz ?07:20
Frogzoobliss1_: just follow the howto, you'll do fine07:20
Doatgnomefreak: congrats07:20
vashFrog - it doesn't show up at all under the network admin, and I can't run lspci at the moment as she took the machine with her just a minute ago07:20
gnomefreakyou too Doat07:20
vashi didn't think to run it while i had the chance07:20
bliss1_Frogzoo; ok07:20
gnomefreaknasky: thats it  ff is non-free no source code07:21
k31thwhen adding two new drives to a dell raid controller in raid1 you have to format in the raid bios ??07:21
vashalthough, if it's 2200, it should work fine....my laptop is 2200 and it detected it right out of the box07:21
Rugnevermind I figured something out07:21
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NewbuntuIm trying to change my display resolution, but under systemsettings in KDE and kcontrol/peripherals I dont have a menu called display, whats the name of the package that allows you to change your display settings in kde?07:21
Arafangiongnomefreak: ff _is_ free.07:21
christophe971ssup07:21
Frogzoognomefreak: ??07:21
gnomefreaknasky: if you follow the wiki as i fixed it you should have no issues07:21
erUSULhawk_wolf: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ShareInternetConnection07:22
bliss1_nickrud: so repremand was why do it from the live CD when you can do it from the os itself -so there07:22
gnomefreakiirc ff is not under gpl07:22
Arafangiongnomefreak: There are other free licenses.07:22
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james_Hello07:22
Frogzoognomefreak: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Download_Mozilla_Source_Code07:22
erUSULgnomefreak: is dual licenced afaik mpl - gpl07:22
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james_can any one help me put kde on ubuntu07:22
jbroome!kde07:23
ubotuI guess kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/07:23
gnomefreakmy fault thinking of opera for some reason07:23
nickrudbliss1_, sounds like education to me.07:23
Frogzoo"License"07:23
FrogzooThis code is covered by the Netscape Public License and Mozilla Public License. Please read the terms of these licenses before altering or copying the source code. "07:23
bliss1_nickrud: it was and it is hope we both benefit07:23
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javizaSDV07:24
james_to install kde do i need to reinstall the system?07:24
Frogzoo!kde07:24
ubotuhmm... kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/07:24
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FliesLikeALapno james_  do apt-get install kde-base or apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:24
james_thanks mate07:25
jbroomereading is fundamental07:25
RugDon't forget to add sudo07:25
gnomefreaksudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop07:25
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yggdrasilhey guys can somone help me out doing orinoco driver install so i can get kismet working ?07:25
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vodnikhi, ehm, a little bit dumb question - what sign should I put to the beginnng of a file in order it be first when I sort files by their names? I know "_" works in windows, but it seems not to work in linux. i.e. in windows, name_of_the_file is somewhere in the middle whereas _name_of_the_file is usually first07:26
james_sorry wat was the to install it again?07:26
Ruganybody ever setup a (private)mirror of ubuntu?07:26
mwevodnik: it works if you set LC_COLLATE=C07:26
gnomefreakjames_: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop07:27
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FrogzooRug: should be straightforward - wget mirror07:27
bliss1_Frogzoo; only advantage with Xen is that it has a grub entry and you boot into it07:27
RugFrogzoo: nah, I'm using rsync07:27
mwevodnik: /etc/environment07:27
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james_gnomefreak sorry can  give me a step by step im a n00b07:28
FrogzooRug: the point is all repos are already using http - so wget is the right tool for the job07:28
RugI'm kinda geeked, I want to nuke my system just so I can reinstall it fast!07:28
avujames_: that is just one setp :)07:28
gnomefreakjames_: to install kubuntu-desktop type in terminal sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop07:28
james_ok07:28
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Rugwow, the entire Warty/Hoary/Dapper collection is only 2.4 GB07:29
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Doatthe install didn't let me set the root password (at least i can't remember). how do i set it?07:30
_guMuTpoBplease, suggest how to mount an iso image so that I could make the ubuntu installer use it, instead of a real cd media.07:30
james_ok i typed that07:30
Frogzoo!root07:30
ubotuhmm... root is Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.07:30
gnomefreakDoat: user password07:30
sesstreetsownage07:30
eth42juanca: this keyboard issue is just amazing. I have the same settings as you but it simply doesn't work for me. I get the first layout from the layout list but cannot switch. I can set a default sometimes, but that doesn't have an effect.07:30
james_i get apt-get unknown07:31
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naskyi can't launch ff1.5. it says : libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:31
naskywhats the matter ?07:31
vodnikmwe: thanks, is there a way to make it work without rebooting?07:31
majkhiiwhy i can't change passwords of users? :(07:31
hwthi, can i run the ubuntu-live-image via pxeboot?07:31
jadaz87hello everyone i was wondering how big is the ubuntu workstation install and how big is the ubuntu server installation once installed to hard disk07:31
hwtwithout much hassle?07:31
gnomefreakjames_: you need to enable universe repo07:31
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Doatgnomefreak: you mean the root password i the same as the user password?07:31
gnomefreakubotu tell james_ about universe07:31
gnomefreakDoat: sudo not su07:31
gnomefreakubotu tell Doat about root07:31
Doatooh ok07:31
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agliv5Frogzoo I can't find the missing k3b packages and am begining to think that they are not necessary... Something else that I noticed;k3b freezes even when I just try to find out information about the media loaded in the drive...07:32
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mwevodnik: export LC_COLLATE=C will work in the current terminal07:32
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mwevodnik: in that bash session07:32
Newbuntudoes anyone know the name of the package that is used by kde to change your display? Mine is missing07:33
majkhiiwhy i can't change passwords of users? :( pls help :D07:33
Frogzooagliv5: did you read the howto?07:33
mweNewbuntu: change display?07:33
agliv5which howto?07:33
Newbunturesolution07:33
mweNewbuntu: right click desktop07:33
Rugmajkhii: yes you can07:33
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Rugsudo passwd <user>07:34
steveiremwe: Thanks for the flash info. That worked.07:34
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majkhiiRug...i try it, but password never changes...07:34
Frogzooagliv5: you missed in the howto where it says 'License'07:34
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Frogzoo'sudo apt-get install k3b cdrdao'07:34
steveireDoes anyone here use pandora.com?07:34
agliv5Frogzoo which howto are you refering to?07:34
Frogzoo!k3b07:34
ubotuK3b was created to be a feature-rich and easy to handle CD burning application, for more info goto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/K3BHowto07:34
Rugmajkhii: what user are you trying to change?07:34
gnomefreakwhat is cdrdao?07:34
majkhiiRug...I do new user...07:35
Frogzoognomefreak: cd cli burning tools07:35
gnomefreakah07:35
Frogzoognomefreak: compulsory to get k3b to work07:35
mwesteveire: you installed the libsdl package?07:35
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steveireyep07:35
steveireCheers07:35
mweyw07:35
Rugmajkhii: ok do these step with me..     sudo adduser ralph07:35
Rugenter your sudo password07:36
agliv5Frogzoo cdrdao is already the newest version07:36
steveireAnyone use pandora.com for music?07:36
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Rugmajkhii: you ok so far?07:36
vodnikmwe thanks07:36
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Frogzooagliv5: well then why doesn't k3b pick it up? you might also like to install cdrecord07:37
mikaelis there anyone who can tell me how to change the default mp3-player from totem to xmms?07:37
_jasonubotu: tell mikael about defaultapp07:38
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ninHello07:39
christophe971EHLO07:39
Rughowdy07:39
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majkhiiRug...i dont understand :)07:40
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mikael_jason, Thanx, guess that was to easy to find.. Guess I thought i would be harder... .hehe07:40
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james_thanks gnomefreak07:41
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ninI've got a question about my webcam... it's saying that it's supported in this kernel. But I don't know how to access it...07:41
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gnomefreakjames_: your welcome07:41
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james_any one no of any good php editors?07:42
james_like dreamwever07:42
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majkhiijames_: bluefish07:42
robertjentity07:42
gnomefreakjames_: nvu should do php07:42
james_pl07:42
james_ok07:42
gnomefreakbluefish should also07:42
gnomefreaknvu is very simalar to dreamweaver07:43
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ninAnyone? :D07:43
jimcooncatnin, I've been playing with webcams lately07:44
agliv5Frogzoo is cdrecord a seperate programm?07:44
ninCool07:44
jimcooncatnin, what software are you using to view it?07:44
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ninI actually don't have software for it yet07:44
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christophe971[hungry] 07:45
ninI found a decent site for the cam itself, but it's just explaining what cam I have, no drivers for it.07:45
ninhttp://www.linux-usb.org/ibmcam/07:45
ninI have the model 207:45
jimcooncatnin, there's lots of ways to set up webcams07:45
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henkDoes ubuntu have support for the broadcom 802.11g onboard nic ?07:45
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jimcooncatnin, try installing camorama and see if it works07:45
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Frogzooagliv5: yes, just install it, it won't hurt anything - and then from k3b, try settings -> k3b setup    might get you going07:45
MrPocketsany reasn my CPU hits 100% when i start to type?07:46
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gnomefreakubotu tell henk about broadcom07:46
MrPockets(P4 3.40 HT)07:46
ninjim, alright07:46
jimcooncatnin, if not then you'll need additional drivers07:46
FrogzooMrPockets: you type very fast?07:46
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henkgnomefreak thnx07:46
MrPocketsnah even when i type slowly07:46
jendaDoes GAIM work in Windows?07:46
gnomefreakhenk: yw07:46
gnomefreakjenda: yes07:46
Grout58jenda: yes07:46
jendathanks07:47
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harisundMrPockets: Run a program called gnome-system-monitor or something. It will tell you in a graphical way what process is taking up most processor .. or you could use top on the command line07:47
gnomefreakjenda: there is a gaim for windows on the gaim website07:47
jendakk07:47
harisundjenda: Are you using gaim?07:47
majkhiianybody who knows how can I install MSIE to ubuntu? :)07:47
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FrogzooMrPockets: or just top - but that seems quite strange07:47
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jendaharisund: yup... but not Windows. Working on a convert 07:47
endeavormacInstalled Ubuntu for the first time yesterday. That sweet orange text that scrolls down as you're booting up, if everything had crashed right there, and tiny space aliens started to eat the inside of my computer whole, I think it still would have made Ubuntu my new favorite distro.07:47
gnomefreakmajkhii: wine but not sure how well it works with IE07:47
harisundjenda: I have a question for you ..07:47
endeavormacWhich brings me to my next point. Does anyone have any idea what font that is?07:47
majkhiignomefreak...it worsk very bad07:47
gnomefreakmajkhii: figured as much07:48
harisundjenda: Do you know how to prevent Gaim's IRC to disable printing messages of who's entering the chat room and who's leaving the chat room?07:48
gnomefreaki have no need for windows nor window apps07:48
majkhiignomefreak...i need something to congigure...but i dont now what and where :)07:48
MrPocketsit was firefox07:48
jimcooncatmajkhii, I'm in same boat, I'll be installing Win2000 under vmWare07:48
MrPocketsi had a window minimized, closed it and all is good now07:48
Frogzoomajkhii: checkout ie4linux after you've installed wine, but it still might not work for you07:48
gnomefreakmajkhii: wine crossoveroffice maybe cedega are about your only way to get ms products on ubuntu07:48
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majkhiignomefreak: i need it because i am doing webpages...and i need to validate them fot MSIE07:49
james_gnomefreak : i installed kde how do i switch to kde now07:49
gnomefreakjames_: log out and on login screen before you log in click sessions than kde07:49
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gnomefreakjames_: than log in07:49
james_ok07:49
james_brb guys07:49
ninjim, said that it could not connect to video...07:49
majkhiiFrogzoo...i check it...it didnt works07:50
harisundjenda Did you see my question?07:50
majkhiimaybe i will install cedega...and try it07:50
jendaharisund: sorry - umm... I don't use it for IRC07:50
harisundjenda: oh ok ..you use Xchat?07:50
gnomefreakmajkhii: your best bet is crossover office but cedega nad co are both pay to use07:50
jimcooncatnin, guess you need an additional driver, I'll check it out. What was your make and model again?07:50
jendaharisund: yup. I just saw you pop into #ubuntu-marketing 07:50
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majkhiignomefreak...thx for help07:51
harisundjenda: my mistake. I wanted to go to ubuntuforums actually ...07:51
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jendaK 07:51
gnomefreakmajkhii: yw07:51
ninIt's a IBM PC Camera, but it's made by Xirlink, it's the model 207:51
aboi'm having some problems with ubuntu running extremely slow. it runs on a mobile p2 366 with 128 RAM. X uses the grafic driver neomagic. any ideas?07:51
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gnomefreakabo: you need mor memory bigger cpu wont hurt eitehr07:52
Frogzooabo: that's really very little memory for gnome07:52
agliv5Frogzoo sudo apt -get install cdrecord --> cdrecord is already the newest version07:52
Frogzooabo: close as many unnecessary apps as possible, and close down unnecessary services07:52
gnomefreakagliv5: you installing k3b?07:52
aboyeah i understand that aswell, but it is *really* slow, firefoxs lags to death while scrolling07:52
aboi've tried xbuntu but it's just as slow07:53
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Frogzooagliv5: did you run k3b setup?07:53
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gnomefreakabo: ubuntu uses the memory to hold in and btw did you make a swap partition?07:53
aboyeah 256 mb07:53
majkhiii have swap 2GB :D07:53
agliv5frogzoo k3b has frozen again so I'll have to wait till I can restart it07:53
gnomefreakmajkhii: 1 gig is all you will ever need07:53
abo40 mb mem free and 130 mb swap free07:54
jimcooncatnin, only thing I could find was http://xirlinkwebcam.sourceforge.net/07:54
ninAlright, thanks man07:54
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abois there no reason to belive there could be something wrong the the graphics driver?07:55
Frogzooabo: I'm running at about 300Meg atm with just irc, ff1.5, k3b open & a couple of terminals - you pc's probly swapping like crazy07:55
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agliv5Frogzoo running k3b setup now07:56
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aboFrogzoo: but mine is *slow* runnig just one terminal in xfce07:56
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Frogzooabo: boot to recovery mode which is just text & see if performance improves07:56
jimcooncatnin, your webcam might be able to use this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75284&highlight=webcam07:56
Frogzooabo: did you enable DMA on you HD?07:57
aboFrogzoo: from grub or is that a gdm session?07:57
aboFrogzoo: no, not manually07:57
Frogzooabo: recovery is an option from grub, & you should edit /etc/hdparm.conf to enable DMA07:57
agliv5Frogzoo setup assistant or configure k3b?07:57
Frogzooagliv5: setup assistant07:57
jendaHow does one make a boot floppy that'll allow a PC that doesn't want to boot from CD to do so?07:58
aboFrogzoo: but it's the X system that is slow, ie when moving around windows etc07:58
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aboit was no way near this slow when i had windows on it07:58
Frogzooabo: if you're swapping, then you'll hit disk, so DMA should help07:58
Falstiusjenda: you could download "smart boot manager"07:58
agliv5Frogzoo a empty window pops up with some buttons at the botom....07:58
agliv5will return07:58
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jendaFalstius: what is it and how does it work?07:59
jenda!boot07:59
ubotujenda: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:59
aboFracture: im not swapping when just moving a window with no other apps started07:59
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Falstiusjenda: it is a floppy, you put it in your drive and boot from it, then it gives you a menu to select different devices to boot from.  Simple to use.08:00
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jendaFalstius, perfect. Where do i get it?08:00
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FalstiusI've used it succesfully on some old pentiums, but didnt have much luck with a 486 (could have been the drive).  Just google for it.08:00
aboFrogzoo: dma was enabled08:00
Frogzooabo: just enable DMA first, & then see08:00
Frogzooabo: k08:01
abohow can i upgrade xorg to version 7?08:01
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pedro94pedrgfytnb08:01
lgcdoes anyone know where are remote communications logged (for example, the web pages you visit)?08:01
naxxtori'm having problems with the network wheezard - namely it's stalling at some point - i think it has something to do with the ppp connection I don't have.  any ideas how to sort it out?08:02
pedro94tonto08:02
Frogzoolgc: that would be in ff's history08:02
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Frogzooabo: take a look at top - how much cpu u currently using?08:02
ramviHeya, I've been using ubuntu breezy for some time now. I've upgraded it to dapper too. Over the time I've "lost" some apps, is there a way to install default ubuntu apps without reinstalling everything?08:02
ramviapt-get something08:02
aboFracture: 20% at idle08:02
abo10-20%08:02
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Fractureabo: are you sure you meant to send those messages to me ?08:03
naxxtorramvi - at-get upgrade dist?  maybe?08:03
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aboFracture: nope, sorry :)08:03
ramvinaxxtor, that returns "there's nothing to do"08:03
Fractureabo: no worries.. I just get a notification when you use my nick in the message ;)08:03
benhallo, kann man hier fragen stellen? bzw. knnte mir mal kurz jemand helfen?08:03
Frogzooabo: which vid card? latest driver installed?08:03
farthow can i get mupen64 to execute08:03
abolspci says some neomagic stuff08:03
lgcFrogzoo, I don't mean the navigator history, but something more general than that (how, as a sysadmin, can one know if a certain user, who diligently cleans up their navigation history, is being a smartaleck?)08:04
naxxtorramvi - not sure then08:04
aboi have no idea about if i use the latest driver08:04
ramvi:/08:04
abobut im suspecting something is wrong with the driver08:04
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aboFrogzoo: how can i upgrade xorg to version 7?08:04
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Frogzooabo: I imagine it's not straightforward08:04
Jedi2k6hi everyone! Can anyone help me with the samba?08:04
naxxtorlgc : ideally you'd need to have access to the gateway they're using08:05
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aboFrogzoo: why? there is a version 7 build of xorg if i look at packages.debian.org08:05
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naxxtorlgc, you could then do a tcpdump and grep the log for URLs08:05
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matatais there any CDs images for all the packages in ubuntu repositories ?08:05
Frogzooabo: debian package != ubuntu package - I doubt there's a breezy package for xorg 708:05
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naxxtorlgc, I guess you could do the same for on the local machine, but the packet log would get big real quick08:06
braskoHey, anyone know how to run webadmin nis?08:06
braskoI have it installed, and would like to configure NIS08:06
aboFrogzoo: oh ok, wasnt xorg 7 released as satable over half a year ago?08:06
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fartcan some tell me how to run mupen6408:07
lgcnaxxtor, I mean there must be a logfile on the machine, that takes care of such info (there used to be such file in08:07
Frogzooabo: maybe we'll see it in dapper08:07
lgcnaxxtor, ... old Irix)08:07
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steveiresteveire@ubuntu:~/Downloads$ sudo kedit /usr/share/applications/Azureus.desktop08:07
steveireError: "/tmp/kde-steveire" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.08:07
steveireLink points to "/tmp/kde-root"08:07
abomhm..08:07
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steveireany idea how I fix that ?08:08
aboFrogzoo: you you recommend installing gentoo and then some more lightweight wm, like pekwm?08:08
blindxcan.. someone say my name?08:08
abowould you, i mean08:08
naxxtorlgc, i'm not sure.  i don't think there is anything that would give enough detail about specific URLs08:08
aboblindx08:08
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ramviHow do I make go back to default dapper? Remove apps that "shouldn't be there" and installs apps that "should be there" and creats the default startup script?08:08
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blindxthanks.08:08
Falstiusdapper uses xorg 7 ...08:08
abowhat is dapper?08:09
Frogzooabo: I recommend another stick or 2 of memory08:09
Falstiusabo, the next version of ubuntu.08:09
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steveireany ideas on that kde ownership issue?08:09
aboFrogzoo: that wont happend :/08:09
steveireIt's been there a while...08:09
lgcnaxxtor, I've seen it, I swear. In fact, as I recall, you could even adjust the level of detail of the log...08:09
Frogzooabo: :(08:09
naxxtorlgc, well clearly you know better than I :)08:10
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steveireuid 1000 and uid 0. Is one of those root and the other system user?08:11
aboFrogzoo: ubuntu seems very resource-demanding.. maybe its better to run something more leightweight :/08:11
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lgcnaxxtor, that is precisely what I don't know! As for tcpdump-ing the gateway I have no clue as to what it is....08:11
Frogzooabo: I'd seriously look at your vid driver first08:11
steveirewhat's the ls switch to display ownership and permissions?08:11
Frogzools -l08:11
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Newbuntuhow do you restart the xserver , just by restarting?08:12
Falstiusabo, vectorlinux is pretty and should run happily on a pII 128mb ram.08:12
naxxtorlgc, i've got an idea.  You could run urlsnarf (as part of the dsniff kit) on the machine, and have it write output to a log file08:12
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FrogzooNewbuntu: ctrl alt backspace  - best logout b4 you try this08:12
naxxtorlgc, assuming that this log you speak of isn't an option, of course08:12
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ninHey jim, should I just load up what is posted by arnieboy on that site you gave me, was sorta busy sorry about the delay08:13
klaxiani just upgraded to dapper on my laptop and the screen is a little grainy...it's not so noticeable that I can't work, but I can definitely see it08:14
klaxianhas anyone else had that problem?08:14
FlannelKingklaxian: ask the people on dapper ;) (#ubuntu+1)08:14
Frogzooklaxian: for dapper -> #ubuntu+108:14
klaxianFlannelKing: ah, sorry08:14
farthow can i run mupen6408:14
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lgcnaxxtor, that could help, thanks.08:15
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damian_when mounting a samba drive, it comes up with 'unknown filesystem type 'smb'' .. how can i make it understand the samba filesystem type?08:16
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mikaeldamian_, try apt-get install smbfs (worked for me..)08:17
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damian_that comes up with 'Package smbfs has no installation candidate'08:18
blindxlol, im gonna go rm rf / my other linux box, just for fun08:18
blindxbrb08:18
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imperfect-gald-darn there are bunch of you08:20
mikaeldamian_, try to add the extra repositories08:20
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aliseahola08:20
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mikaeldamian_, http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories08:21
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_jason!ubuntuguide08:21
ubotuI guess ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead08:21
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ninI'm really liking ubuntu08:22
iceman_anyone a karamba wizy here ...08:22
majkhiianybody who knows where i can find manual for apache+mysql setup?08:22
_jason!lamp08:22
ubotuLinux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP08:22
majkhiiubotu...thx08:23
ninhow do I go about downloading macromedia flashplayer, because at the site it's not letting me download it.08:23
_jasonubotu: tell nin about flash08:23
agliv5Frogzoo when I try to open the setup assistant only an empty window pops up...08:23
icemanI need a Kasamba wizard ...08:24
icemankaramba08:24
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naxxtorso - my network-admin applet doesn't work - i think it's because it's trying to start a ppp connection that's not there - can I fix this?08:24
steveiretorrents are seriously confusing me.08:25
mikaelubotu: tell mikael about wine08:25
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steveireAll torrents are slow spped for me.08:26
steveireIt doesn't make sense.08:26
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icemananyone good a rebuilding superkaramba themes08:28
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cyphasewould you guys recommend i install truecrypt 4.2 on breezy?08:29
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cyphaselast time i tried installing truecrypt on ubuntu, there were problems08:29
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icemanwell crud my linux box froze ... :(08:31
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icemanwhat inode "fixed" mean08:31
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naxxtoriceman, might mean it's not broken any more ;)08:32
sorush20guys how do I set up my computer to check which ports are open or not?08:32
sorush20how can I open up ports and stuff08:32
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naxxtorsorush20, use nmap (apt-get/Synaptic it)08:32
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unstableIf I own bobdole.com and bobdole.com links to my home isp box as a web server, How can I make it so when I connect to irc on my linux box...it shows "bobdole.com" as my hostmask?08:32
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naxxtorsorush20, hang on - do you want to open them or check whether they're open?08:33
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sorush20naxxtor: I'm trying to get this extension webmail with thundrebird to work and I keep getting the message from the extension in the thunderbird that the ports like 25, 143 and 110 are closed and I have error..08:34
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sorush20I do have a router naxxtor and I have set the port forwarding so that those port s have access to the external host... but I reall y don't know what to do/08:34
naxxtorsorush20, what computers ports is that referring to?08:34
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sorush20http://webmail.mozdev.org/index.html08:35
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eduardhow can i downgrade my version of gcc?08:35
scifihi guys, probly a stupid question but if want to play CS in ubuntu and i use wine to do this, will i also need to install steam on ubuntu as well as windows xp or can i just access the steam installtion by mounting the windows partition in ubuntu?08:35
sorush20naxxtor: they are pop imap and smtp..08:35
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eth42I cannot use more than one keyboard layout. can anyone help?08:35
jkroonIs it possible to use Xgl in the latest Ubuntu release, using an nvidia videocard ?08:36
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gnomefreakjkroon: if you mean dapper yes08:36
Stormx2hi sexies.08:36
naxxtorsorush20, i'm not sure i understand why any ports need to be open - is that all the errors you get?08:37
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gnomefreaknaxxtor: depending on the email you use will depend on what ports it sends and recieves from08:37
jkroongnomefreak, is dapper == 5.10 ?08:37
gnomefreaklike thunderbird and gmail pop port is 995 and smtp is 58708:37
facugaichjkroon dapper == 6.0608:38
gnomefreakjkroon: no that is breezy08:38
chavoscifi, is the windows partition ntfs?08:38
scifichavo: yes08:38
jkroonok, so dapper hasnt been released yet...08:38
chavoyou'll have to install the whole thing08:38
gnomefreakjkroon: imho its not worth it08:38
gnomefreakjkroon: no not yet08:38
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gnomefreakjune 1stish08:38
jkroonok, thanks08:38
scifichavo: hmm thats a no go then, i only have one cd-key08:38
boydxbis ubuntu debian based?08:38
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cyphaseyes08:39
naxxtorboydxb, yep08:39
chavoscifi, you can try copying the whole thing over08:39
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chavoscifi, you can install it more than once08:39
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boydxbi'm trying to install the yahoo messenger from the yahoo website and i tried to install it...08:39
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em_ciao08:40
scifichavo: copy or install, very different things08:40
scifi?08:40
icemananyone a gimp wizzard here ... ?08:41
chavoscifi, you can copy the whole steam folder into your ~ or somewhere you have write permissions08:41
lgcgnomefreak, I'm being asked what should I do with /etc/hdparm.conf (Y,N,D,Z)...08:41
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eth42I cannot use more than one keyboard layout (ubuntu 5.10, gnome 2.12.1). although I can add keyboard layouts with gnome-keyboard-properties, only the first one will be active. can anyone help?08:42
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scifichavo: i see, i may look into that once ive got my internet in ubuntu sorted08:42
boydxbit says dpkg : error process messenger (--install) after running a sudo dpgk -i ...08:42
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em_ok08:43
chavoscifi, ok, well it worked for me, the thing is steam needs to write to the disk and can't write to ntfs08:43
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iswanyone knows if ubuntu(newest kernel) supports buffalo airstation g54 usb wi-fi?08:43
iswbuffalo doesn't supply linux drivers.08:44
Stoveaturehow can one set a root password?08:44
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scifichavo: and u play via steam with ur same account as ur windows steam?08:44
_jasonubotu: tell Stoveature about root08:44
naxxtorStoveature, sudo passwd08:44
chavoscifi, yes08:44
scifikewl08:44
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fijamHello, I would like to join Ubuntu community, but I have a few questions08:44
em_someone know how I can run 3dstudio max from ubuntu?08:44
tonyyarussofijam: Just start asking!  :)08:45
naxxtorem_, try crossover office08:45
chavothat's one good thing about steam you can install it on different computers. just can't log in from more than one at a time08:45
Falstiusisw, there is a big list of wireless cards and their linux support on the web somehwere.  You could search for it.08:45
fijamWell, I have been using Debian for some time and I'm quite familiar with it08:45
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DutchyI have totem-xine and i've installed the w32codecs, yet .avi files wont show anything (the sound in them works fine) what could be the problem?08:45
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boydxb..08:45
chavoalso I've actually moved the whole thing to a fat32 partition so I can use it in either os08:45
_jasonubotu: tell Dutchy about multimedia08:45
iswFalstius: ok thanks.08:45
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fijamBut mostly on low-resource graphic system08:45
cyphasenooooo08:45
fijamIceWM, fluxbox08:46
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fijamI don't know what are the minimal requirement for Gnome08:46
naxxtorhelp! i lied to ubotu!08:46
tonyyarussofijam: (It generally helps to put your whole question on one line so it doesn't get broken up by other channel traffic.)08:46
_jasonnaxxtor: hmm?08:46
naxxtor!root08:46
uboturoot is, like, Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.08:46
scifiis it possible to logon as a "super" user so i have access to root via nautilus, instead of having to use the terminal all the time to enter my password ?08:46
naxxtor!network-admin08:46
ubotunetwork-admin is, like, totally, root08:46
naxxtoris what i meant08:46
naxxtorwhich is wrong08:46
em_crossover office?08:46
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tonyyarussofijam: They say you can do it with 128M RAM, not sure what processor.  If it's a no-go, we have flux and icewm here too of course.08:47
tonyyarussofijam: Also, XFCE.08:47
fijamBasically, what are the recommended requirements for usage of Ubuntu? (on GNOME)08:47
_jasonnaxxtor: just make it whatever it was before08:47
fijamok, thanks08:47
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fijamAnd, does Ubuntu use debian packages?08:47
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adeptsplit ?08:48
adeptfarde ?08:48
adeptmoinsse ?08:48
tonyyarussofijam: Not exactly.08:48
naxxtor_jason - how do i do that?08:48
scifianyone?08:48
Alex_BO2HELLO!I've to patch the acpi, but i don't know how to do.there are anybody who can help me patching it?08:48
_jasonnaxxtor: just tell him: no, network-admin is <whatever it was before>08:48
ConfidentiaLany1 who cares to help me with a little basic C++ programming? :P08:48
fijamtonyyarusso: tell me more L)08:48
tonyyarussofijam: It uses the .deb format and apt package management, but Ubuntu and Debian packages are not "binary compatible", and it is not recommended to mix the two on the same system.08:48
naxxtor_jason, phew :p08:49
tonyyarusso(Although it is done in rare necessary cases.  I think I have one or two Debian packages right now.)08:49
fijamtonyyarusso: I see, thank you08:49
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lgcgnomefreak, now it asks what it should do with "/etc/ssh/ssh_config"...08:49
MagicFabjoin #ubuntu-co08:50
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MagicFaboups :)08:50
ConfidentiaLany1 who cares to help me with a little basic C++ programming? :P It'll only take a sec...08:50
naxxtorConfidentiaL, what are you looking for?08:50
fijamAnd when the new release is supposed to be... well, released?08:50
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harisundConfidentiaL I am not sure if this is the right place, but ask anyway08:50
MagicFabany Abiword users here ? I'd like to invite you to add any comments, if interested, to this RFE:08:50
tonyyarussoConfidentiaL: Try (at various times if necessary) in #ubuntu-offtopic for that sort of thing.08:50
MagicFabhttp://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=791308:51
nick|hereConfidentiaL: ##c++ it will be helpful08:51
tonyyarussonaxxtor, harisund: Would be plenty appropriate in offtopic.08:51
scifiis it possible to logon as a "super" user so i have access to root via nautilus, instead of having to use the terminal all the time to enter my password ?08:51
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gnomefreaklgc: i have no clue what your doing im not gonna be much help atm08:51
tonyyarussoscifi: You can, but it is not recommended.08:51
tonyyarusso!root08:51
uboturoot is, like, totally, Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.08:51
fijamWhen will be new Ubuntu released? At the begginig of May?08:51
tonyyarusso!dapper08:51
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)08:51
tonyyarussofijam: ^^08:52
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JoeMorrisOracle and Linux  how about Ubuntu08:52
lgcgnomefreak, I've been doing as you said for the last 4 hours...08:52
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JoeMorrisis oracle buying ubuntu?08:52
ConfidentiaLhehe, ok guys, I joined #C++, thanks anyway :P08:52
JoeMorrisnew rumors :P08:52
Falstiusscifi: you could run nautilus with gksudo if you want .. but that's just asking for trouble.08:52
JoeMorrishttp://searchopensource.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid39_gci1180607,00.html08:52
Jimmey__Falstius, why?08:52
scifitonyyarusso: is it not recommended due to security reasons or due to possiblely causing system problems?08:52
fijamthanks.08:52
tonyyarussoJoeMorris: Nah, I hear they're looking at Novell though.  I don't think the philosophies would be compatible, since Ubuntu is strictly non-commercial in offering nature.08:52
tonyyarussoscifi: a) security, b) people f*** stuff up.08:53
FalstiusJimmey__: well for once thing nautilus leaves dirty little files all over the place which would then be owned by root.08:53
JediMasterhi all, can someone briefly explain to me what the difference between debian and ubuntu is? Is it (basically) debian with a different release schedule maintained by different people?08:53
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gnomefreaklgc: upgrading will only ask you about ssh if its already installed08:53
fijamTherefore, I'm going to give that distro a try08:53
Alex_BO2HELLO!who can help me???please!!!08:54
MisterNit's just so stupid to not do a good deal because of "philosophy" (of a commerce)08:54
Falstiusplus, you'd likely end up running lots of programs as root that shouldn't be run as root.08:54
fijamI am encouragd by such a friendly support and communit08:54
naxxtorAlex_BO2, what do you want08:54
scifitonyyarusso: cus if i was just a security issue i dont really see the problem considering linux boxes arent targeted....but if its easy to mess up ur linux system as well then ok i wont risk it08:54
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lgcgnomefreak, sure ssh is installed...08:54
Dutchy_jason, i just did all that again but I still get a blue screen instead of video... and the sound works fine again08:54
JoeMorris Oracle just wants to add the OS, so Ubuntu Linux would make a lot more sense than Novell," said Richard Monson-Haefel, a senior analyst with Burton Group, a Midvale, Utah, consulting firm.08:54
tonyyarussoJediMaster: Ooh...there's a page on the ubuntu site about that.  Look for "relationship" on some general about page.08:55
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Alex_BO2naxxtor, i have to patch my acpi and i don't know how to do08:55
_jasonDutchy: blue screen! why didn't you say so?  have you restarted X?08:55
JoeMorrishmmmmm we shall see what happens :)08:55
gnomefreaklgc: than your gonna have to answer the questions like you did the first time you installed it08:55
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fijamthanks for help and bye08:55
JoeMorrisgoogle summer of code goes on this summer again too08:55
JoeMorris:)08:55
naxxtorAlex_BO2, what patch are you talking about?/08:55
JediMastertonyyarusso: ok, will do, thanks08:55
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JoeMorrisnext year will be a KEY YEAR For linux and mainstream08:55
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JoeMorrisespecially ubuntu08:55
Jimmey__JoeMorris, Blender really benefited from that08:55
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iswerr... make menuconfig ... command not found. using default installation, haven't touched anything.08:55
Alex_BO2naxxtor, acpi-release-20060127-2.6.1608:55
Dutchy_jason, I have not restarted X... I will do so right now08:55
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iswno make installed?08:56
tonyyarussoscifi: If you know the risk you're taking, you probably know enough to do it, but then would know why not too.  If you don't know and understand the risks, you shouldn't be doing it.  So, pretty much either way, probably best to steer away from, unless it's just too much of a hassle to use sudo.08:56
naxxtorAlex_BO2, do you have kernel sources?08:56
scifitonyyarusso: i like ubuntu so far, but still seems to involve alot of command typing considering it has a full working GUI08:56
Falstiusisw, no compiler installed ...08:56
gnomefreakisw: sudo apt-get install build-essential08:56
tonyyarussoscifi: Depends what you're doing.08:56
lgcgnomefreak, the main differences are the ForwardAgent and ForwardX11 answers ("no" for Breezy vs. "yes" for Hoary)...08:56
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Alex_BO2naxxtor, where can i find them?08:56
iswwell that's just great... I08:56
Dutchybrb08:56
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gnomefreaklgc: i dont use ssh08:56
iswIm trying to get my wi-fi usb to work :-P08:56
naxxtorAlex_BO2, you can apt get them I believe - i forget the command though08:56
Falstiusisw, sudo apt-get install build-essential08:56
scifitonyyarusso: ok i wont go down that road :)08:56
tonyyarussoscifi: (And often cli is the quickest way to do something, so documentation will use it, simply because it works.)08:56
gnomefreakisw: run the command i typed to you08:57
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waldyr\server #recife08:57
diggyzhey guys, ive just downloaded and burned ubuntu iso, it hangs when the brown background shows ;(  works fine on another computer08:57
tonyyarussoscifi: Hehe, all right.08:57
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iswI would... if i would have access to internet from the laptop im installing it on, ibm thinkpad 240x, no ethernet available.08:57
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lgcgnomefreak, is there something you can use instead of ssh (apart from the deprecated rsh and telnet, of course)? What a surprise08:57
iswI downloaded the kernel on a usb-memory stick and transferred it.08:57
scifitonyyarusso: ive in a magazine about BASH command line , whats the difference between that and the terminal ?08:57
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gnomefreaklgc: i can use anything they offer i have no need for it08:58
gnomefreak!info b-e08:58
naxxtorAlex_BO2, have you made sure there isn't a package that will do that patch for you?08:58
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tonyyarussoscifi: Not much.  You can use things other than bash, but that's the default shell for terminal use.08:58
gnomefreak!info build-essential08:58
ubotubuild-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB08:58
Alex_BO2naxxtor, yes... probably i have them: /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz208:58
Alex_BO2naxxtor, let me see08:58
scifitonyyarusso: omg tony sorry, what im typing doesnt seem to be what im thinking , typings terrible (works f*** my brain up)08:58
gnomefreakisw: you can use the cd as long as the cdrom repo is enabled and others disabled08:58
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Falstiusisw, it might be available on the CD08:59
Dutchy_jason, it works now, thanks. Still weird though since I did all this yesterday already and have rebooted since then. I guess I missed something yesterday08:59
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iswgnomefreak: doesn't have a usb drive... and it can't boot from usb. I had to get a 2.5" hdd converter to 3." whatever converter to my desktop computer...installed the base system and put the hdd back to the laptop. That worked fine. :)09:00
_jasonDutchy: yeah, that blue screen happened to me once and I never figured out why.  I just know it went away with a restart09:00
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diggyzanyone know why my ubunto livecd wont start? it hangs when the brown desktop background shows, works fine on my other computer09:00
patrick52222what the command to install wine09:00
naxxtorpatrick52222, sudo apt-get install wine09:00
naxxtor?09:00
_jasonpatrick52222: sudo aptitude install wine09:00
patrick52222cheers all09:00
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iswgnomefreak: ohwell, I used linux back in 97... I abandoned it a few years laters...guess I have to go back to the nerd mode again :o)09:01
scifitonyyarusso: hope u dont mind me asking all these questions, i wud just like to understand ubuntu a bit more before i use it more09:01
naxxtor!tell patrick52222 about wine09:01
tonyyarussoscifi: Well that's why we're here, so no problem.09:01
JediMastertonyyarusso: right, so ubuntu is a more up to date freeze of debian testing, in a way...09:01
iswafk09:01
harisundWhat software is the ubuntu wiki based on?09:01
scifibless :)09:02
tonyyarussoJediMaster: Kind of.09:02
tonyyarussoJediMaster: There are some other philosophy type things, but they are very closely related.09:02
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naxxtordoes anyone have any ideas how i can stop my network-admin applet from freezing when I open it?  I think it's trying to load a connection that isn't there....09:02
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ConfidentiaLok, #C++ channel is not for recommendation, they aren't exactly helpful >: (09:04
fabrihow do i uninstall ubuntu and install windows again?09:04
seliniumnaxxtor: try flushing the app then re-installing?09:04
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tonyyarussofabri: Oh dear - why?09:04
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_jasonfabri: put a windows install disk in and delete all the ubuntu partitions09:04
Mar_S:D09:04
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naxxtornaxxtor, which package would that be?09:04
seliniumfabri: you will need your Windows disc....09:05
HedgeMagefabri: but... why?09:05
_jasonfabri: and good luck to you :)09:05
fabrii've tryed to get used to ubuntu but it's not ready yet for home users09:05
HedgeMagefabri: WIndoze eats everything in its path, just run the install CD09:05
Boglizktraitor :o *09:05
Boglizk*jk*09:05
seliniumfabri: in what way?09:05
fabriipod, for example, the gtkpod is not what i expected09:05
HedgeMagefabri: at least tell us what put you off so we know what to improve :)09:05
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harisundConfidentiaL: Do you want to ask your question on Ubuntu offtopic?09:05
HedgeMagefabri: did you try amarok?  former iTunes users tend to like that better.09:06
ConfidentiaLyeh...09:06
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fabrii tryied amarok but wasn't that easy09:06
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HedgeMagefabri: how so?09:07
maccam94what's a good wireless G card to get for an ubuntu laptop?09:07
scififabri: i almost gave up with ubuntu when i found out its not gonna work with my usb adsl modem, but im just gonna get a really cheap network card and switch to solve this problem, as i really feel ubuntu deserves a second chance09:07
fabriand for no reason, when i switched my connection from wireless to ethernet i wasn't able to login again as sudo and had to reinstall ubuntu09:07
Lingen_sweAny using enlightment with entrance ?09:07
SeSphorei created a different user after installing ubuntu, how can i make that user a sudoer too?  i get ______ is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.09:07
tonyyarussomaccam94: I have an Intel Pro Wireless 2915 a/b/g, works out of hte box.09:07
HedgeMagemaccam94: Anything with an atheros chipset works well (man Dlink cards have this)09:07
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seliniumfabri: Ah ok, to embrace the open source world, you have to understand that closed source stuff like ipods will have 'issues'. Now you could have gone for the far superior iAudio. But that isn't what you want to hear if you already have an iPod.09:07
_jasonSeSphore: add him to the admin group: sudo adduser user_name admin09:07
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SeSphoreah ok thanks jason09:07
naliothSeSphore: system > admin > users and groups09:08
seliniumfabri, it is a shame to lose you. Try us again soon....09:08
nalioth_jason: why not do it the ubuntu way?09:08
fabriHedgeMage: i just wanted to have my ipod resync automatically, and showing cd covers and videos09:08
fabriHedgeMage: i couldn't09:08
SeSphorenalioth -> i'm in a shell remotly ssh  i dont have x running or vnc09:08
harisundIs ubuntu going to participate in this year's Google's Summer of Code?09:08
tonyyarussofabri: If not Dapper (June 1st), Dapper+1 (October sometime) should have lots of new goodies, so maybe you'll like it then.09:08
fabriselinium: i really loved ubuntu, i think in a year or so i'll try again09:08
HedgeMagefabri: I know amarok will do covers and such, not sure about syncing the iPod since I don't have one... I'm sorry you're disappointed, though, and I hope you'll try us again next release :)09:09
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naliothSeSphore: ah09:09
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SeSphorecool that worked jason09:09
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seliniumfabri, you can always have both. dual boot?09:09
HedgeMagefabri: if you file a "feature request" bug for amarok, that will help them know what users are looking for and not finding.09:09
fabrii really would love to stay here, trust me, i hate windows and i've hated for years09:09
HedgeMageselinium: good point.09:09
scifiwhile were on the dapper subject, will i be able to upgrade to dapper from within ubuntu, i.e) without having to download the dapper ISO?09:09
fabrii don't see a point for having two systems if i barely use one09:09
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Boglizkevil peer09:09
osfameronhi.  I keep on having to run sudo dhclient to wake up my network connection09:10
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tonyyarussofabri: It's an easy way to check the status of the second system, and get used to it in your spare time to make an eventual migration easier.09:10
_jasonnalioth: I'll try to mention both methods, but I've seen a bug report on using the gui where the user doesn't stay in admin for some reason09:10
seliniumfabri: this is true, it is why my windows prtition disappeared after a few months. :)  Good luck with the windows thing. Hope to see you back soon.....09:11
osfameronmy wireless is still running (applet still shows good signal, and I can do iwlist scan and see it) but I keep on losing IP09:11
king-of-no-pantshey guys09:11
fabriso, i have a notebook, and it comes with an image dvd wich supposedly reisntalled the whole hard disk09:11
king-of-no-pantsubuntu keeps crashing on my comp, its driving me crazy09:11
diggyznvidia card dont work with the ubuntu livecd?09:11
fabribut then when it restarted it loaded this grub and didn't went to windows09:11
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lgcHedgeMage, hi! How's the weather in WA?09:11
fabriwhat can i do?09:11
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seliniumking-of-no-pants, we need more info than that..... why, when, whayt happens?09:12
osfameronaha, it would seem to be same as http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15977809:12
king-of-no-pantsi have a couple of different crashes09:12
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king-of-no-pantsone just restarts the comp09:12
king-of-no-pantsone just goes all black, and then to command line09:12
naxxtorok can someone tell me what that "thing" that manages your network connection by default in Breezy is09:12
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king-of-no-pantsits weird09:12
fabriso, again, how do i reinstall windows?09:12
HedgeMagelgc: hi there! good good :) if you want to visit, drop me a /msg so we don't disrupt #ubuntu :)09:12
seliniumfabri, just put in the dvd and reboot, it should handle everything from there. Remember to back up anything you don't want to lose.09:13
king-of-no-pantsjust, BAM out of gui, and into command line09:13
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seliniumking-of-no-pants, Are you doing anything in particular when these crashes occur?09:13
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king-of-no-pantsjust using GAIM and Firefox09:13
fabriselinium: i did that, and supposedly it overwrited the whole harddisk, but then when i was told to restart the computer it didn't loaded windows, instead, it just loaded grub and said there was an error09:14
king-of-no-pantsi put ubuntu on the comp yesterday09:14
king-of-no-pantsi have ndiswrapper running my wireless card09:14
naxxtorfabri, boot from a LiveCD (ubuntu livecd? Knoppix?) run fdisk and delete all the partitions, then run that CD again09:14
diggyznvidia card is no supported by the livecd?09:14
seliniumfabri, do you have a live disc?09:14
fabrii don't have a livecd09:14
king-of-no-pantsi thought it may be a power supply issue09:15
naxxtorfabri, maybe you should get one?09:15
ninArg.09:15
king-of-no-pantscause the comp im running is old09:15
ninmplayer isn't working...09:15
fabrii will09:15
mwenin: how so?09:15
seliniumfabri, best download one. sorry... :)09:15
ninIt's not playing things in firefox, but it might be because it's macromedia...09:16
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seliniumking-of-no-pants, did you have any problems with the PC before installing ubunu?09:16
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fabriselinium: i'm on it, just started downloading, but how do i burn isos in ubuntu09:16
king-of-no-pantsi don't know, the computer was given to me yesterday09:16
_jasonnin: does badgerbadgerbadger.com work?09:16
nnyseem to remember a good forum on first time installation post stuff... vid formats, graphics card.. anyone gotta link?09:16
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mjrfabri, right-click in nautilus, choose write to cd09:17
ninchecking09:17
ninNope.09:17
seliniumfabri: what system are you on at the moment?09:17
scifiwill i be able to upgrade to dapper from within breezy badger, i.e) without having to download the dapper ISO?09:17
fabrii have ubuntu09:17
Boglizkyes09:17
tonyyarussonny: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/, various locations09:17
Boglizkwell actually i dunno09:17
_jasonnin: have you installed flash?09:17
Boglizkbut they say you dont have to reinstall09:17
seliniumscifi, yes, but i wouldn't try on the 1st.....09:17
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fabrithanks for everything, hope to be back soon, when this linux thing get really home user friendly09:18
ninI installed mplayer, thinking that would work.09:18
ninBleh09:18
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king-of-no-pantsi have a better power supply here that I was thinking about putting in, if you think that will solve things09:18
naxxtorscifi, i'm told that you just need to edit your sources and then do an apt-get upgrade dist09:18
scifiselinium: 1st of June u mean?09:18
nnyheh.. "user friendly.."09:18
_jasonnin: for flash, you need flashplayer.  Install flashplugin-nonfree from multiverse09:18
nnyi have done three installs in the last two days09:18
seliniumking-of-no-pants, I am sorry, there could be soooo many things cuasing it. A dodgy graphics card, dodgy psu.. other problem...09:18
ninAlright09:18
nnyand ALL of them where easier than windows09:19
scifinaxxtor: ok sorry i missed ur response09:19
king-of-no-pantsselinium, it said once that processor throttleing was not supported...09:19
seliniumscifi, Yes, everyone and there dog will be doing the same! It will take forever!09:19
scifihehehe09:19
nnyso yeah.. forum.. link..post install.. seen it.. anyone?09:19
majkhiisakra09:19
king-of-no-pantswell, i think i'll replace the psu09:19
naxxtorscifi, if you want to upgrade to dapper from breezy i'm told you just need to update your sources then run apt-get upgrade dist09:19
Tidus_jason: AFRICAN SNAKE!09:19
majkhiii cant go to setup of mysql :'(09:19
diggyzcan someone help please? when i load my livecd it hands after the mouse and backgrounds appears09:19
_jasonTidus: huh?09:19
nnymy googljitsu fails me... i think ubuntu dapper ati radeon might work09:20
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Tidus_jason: the badgers site lol09:20
_jasonoh lol09:20
king-of-no-pantsthe psu is 150 watts09:20
scifinaxxtor: thanks, i got the message 2nd time around :)09:20
king-of-no-pantsim gonna replace it with a 20009:20
seliniumking-of-no-pants, Start by entering the motherboards BIOS (usually by holding down the delete key on boot). Then reset the defaults, and continue to boot. It sounds like there might be some BIOS issues.09:20
ninStill not working09:21
king-of-no-pantsthe bios takes forever to POST09:21
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seliniumking-of-no-pants, How old is the PC? old enough for a new BIOS battery?09:21
king-of-no-pantsi couldn't get into it yesterday with the del key, ill probally have to find a different key09:21
king-of-no-pantsyeah, its old09:21
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seliniumNew battery, then try again..09:21
king-of-no-pantsok, new psu too?09:21
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takedown!de09:22
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de09:22
naxxtori'd like to try network manager - how would I do this?09:22
seliniumnope, unless you want some more speed.... :)09:22
king-of-no-pantsmore speed?09:22
ninjames, would I need to load codex?09:22
seliniumking-of-no-pants, sorry read that all wrong!09:22
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king-of-no-pantsmmk09:22
seliniumking-of-no-pants, try the battery first. then the PSU.09:22
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king-of-no-pantsok09:23
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king-of-no-pantsi hope i can find a battery09:23
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king-of-no-pantsi think i have one lying around here09:23
Tidusking-of-no-pants: the battery's just a CR2016 watch battery09:23
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PwcrLinuxHi all09:23
seliniumking-of-no-pants, change the battery with the power off. I don't want you frying the BIOS or yourself.09:23
selinium:)09:23
king-of-no-pantsyeah, i know, but i think i have one here09:23
king-of-no-pantsheehee09:24
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king-of-no-pantswell, im off to fool around with it09:24
PwcrLinuxRadio Shack have a puter batteries09:24
seliniumking-of-no-pants, I am off now, back in about 30 mins... Good luck09:24
king-of-no-pantsk, thanks09:24
king-of-no-pantsill be back in about an hour and a half if i have trouble09:24
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nnyi gotta q09:25
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nnyi use samba in my network,..09:25
nnymount shares etx09:25
nnyetc*09:25
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nnywanna stop using windows even less than i do now09:25
nnybut i am looking for a good way to mount these shares on various comps with scripts based on other stuff09:26
nnywhats the eloquent way to do that in linux?09:26
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Tomcat_nny: What exactly do you need? Mounting samba shares is done via smbfs09:26
nnyTomcat_: well I can contiue to use Samba.. but all my boxes are natively linux09:27
nnythe only windows i have is the dual boot pc i use for games09:27
Tidusnny: nfs works fine if they're all linux09:27
Tomcat_nny: In that case, use NFS :)09:27
nnyhmm09:27
nnyi will google...09:27
nnyany good howtos, etc?09:27
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Tidusnny: just aptitude install nfs-common nfs-kernel-server then man exports09:28
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huhmzis it possible to detach a gui program that is being forwarded (over ssh for example) and then reattach it at some later time?09:28
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nnyTidus: is nfs-kernel-server a diff kernel with nfs support?09:29
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Tidusnny: no, jus the loadable module for the currently running one09:29
Tidusnny: and the scripts to glue it together09:29
nnyTidus: ok thanks09:30
Tidusnny: np09:30
vinisomebody know how can I install "Unichrome Pro Graphics" (video card) at my Ubuntu Dapper Drake Flight 5?09:30
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super!nvidia09:31
ubotumethinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736809:31
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super!vnc09:32
ubotuit has been said that vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)09:32
Tidussuper: "unichrome pro" != nvidia... it's an S3 integrated lol09:32
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super!vpn09:32
ubotuvpn is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD09:32
super!cipe09:32
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, super09:32
btboudreauxI have a non ubuntu question but you people are computer savvy and I've been wondering something09:32
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super!k3b09:33
ubotuK3b was created to be a feature-rich and easy to handle CD burning application, for more info goto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/K3BHowto09:33
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scifi!3d09:33
ubotuscifi: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:33
ninArgh.09:33
ninI've downloaded codex and such too09:34
ninCan't seem to get flash working09:34
btboudreauxIf I have port forwarding for FTP (21) on a FTp server in my home, will it effect the other users on my home network? Does all FTP traffic get forwarded to the server or just traffic that originated from WAN09:34
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Tidusbtboudreaux: all traffic incoming to port 21 will forward to the server09:34
Tidusfrom the outside, that is.09:34
Tidusinternally, it won't do anything.09:34
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Mar_S:)09:34
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vini"Unichrome Pro Graphics" come inside GigaByte 8vm800m motherboard09:35
btboudreauxalright, so if it originates from the internal, then it will go to whatever it orginated from? correct?09:35
super#rdesktop09:35
super!rdesktop09:35
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, super09:35
Mar_S#rdesktop09:35
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Tidusbtboudreaux: if traffic originates from the inside, it'll arrive where it should09:35
Tidusport forwarding only affects people connecting from the outside.09:36
super!cisco vpn09:36
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, super09:36
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mwesuper: please /msg the bot09:36
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superok09:36
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btboudreauxalright, i suspected this, just needed conformation and couldnt find any definite answer09:37
btboudreauxthanks a bunch tidus09:37
Tidusbtboudreaux: np09:37
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unstableWhere is the link to download Ubuntu Dapper?(I only have a cdrw)..I can't burn dvdrs.09:38
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albert_hola, alguien espaol?09:38
unstable!es09:38
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:38
slackernHmm is there a way to add more paths to the Places menu?09:39
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slackernOh i just found it, nevermind.09:40
Apostle^slackern: yea you can drag it i think09:40
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diggyzanyone know why my livecd hangs after the mouse appears? just a brown screen?09:40
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slackernJust went to the folder and went into the bookmarks menu in nautilus also worked :)09:41
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Apostle^;-D09:41
zakmci just replaced my motherboard and need to get breezy to use the new onboard audio instead of the old settings09:41
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PwcrLinuxdiggyz: does it's "waiting" mouse icon just freeze up does not animates?09:41
zakmcany pointers?09:41
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diggyzPwcrLinux: i can move the mouse pointer09:42
diggyzbut nothing appears, just the pointer and the brown backgrounds09:42
Apostle^diggyz: so it's just the cons not showing up?09:42
Apostle^icons.09:42
diggyzyeah09:42
Apostle^how fast is the pc09:42
diggyzand bars and stuff like that09:42
diggyz3500+09:42
majkhiii need help, can i change disk from ntfs to ext3 without data loss?09:42
Apostle^oh nm09:42
Apostle^well then. i'm not sure... is the cd damaged ?09:42
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diggyznot, brand new, and its working on an old computer that i tried it on09:43
Apostle^hm.09:43
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PwcrLinuxdiggyz: Okay, probably wrong burn setting or Live CD from orders could be bad cd.09:43
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Apostle^hmm slashdot.org thinks oracle should get ubuntu :-P09:43
Boglizkyeah.. i saw that09:44
diggyzPwcrLinux: works on my moms computer09:44
Apostle^crazy09:44
Apostle^can you 'buy' a linux distro?09:44
Apostle^i don't understand it is free..?09:44
K-Richhey guys, i have 2 machines running breezy here,, and i just did the System > Administration > Shared Folders on both of them and choose NSF and created /home/shared folders on both machines... one question though.... how to i connect to one machine from the other?09:44
mwezakmc: figure out what module you need by lspci and google then load the module. also read !sound09:44
Boglizka cable between em? :p09:44
diggyzis there any failsafe bootup?09:45
zakmc!sound09:45
ubotuit has been said that sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary09:45
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nnymust be pebkac09:45
K-RichBoglizk: ha ha... got that too, one is 198.162.254.1 the other 192.168.254.209:45
PwcrLinuxApostle^: it's free distros09:45
nnytrying to mount /dev/hda4 with defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000, but it compains.. maybe i need to put a space after the comma09:45
PwcrLinuxsaves funds :)09:45
Apostle^PwcrLinux: but it said 'buy'09:45
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PwcrLinuxApostle^: which site?09:46
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Boglizkslashdot.org09:46
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Apostle^PwcrLinux: http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/06/04/18/1556229.shtml09:46
Boglizkyeah.. w/e09:46
nnyReiserFS: hda4: warning: unknown mount option "uid=1000"09:46
PwcrLinuxokay hang on09:46
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takedownHey guys, someone use checkinstall?09:46
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Apostle^takedown: i do09:46
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superm1could someone tell me how to have ubuntu populate my list of kernels in menu.lst?  During an installation, grub failed - so I manually did a grub installation, but I don't get a menu.lst made09:47
Apostle^PwcrLinux: nevermind i re-read it.09:47
takedownjust want to know, he is generate files in /debian subdir?09:47
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mwesuperm1: I think sudo update-grub should09:48
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diggyzcan i boot the livecd in some failsafe mode?09:48
superm1thanks mwe, looks like that will do it09:48
superm1is there any other steps after the grub install that need to be done still?09:48
PwcrLinuxApostle^: okay, I went to slash site and it's all message boards..09:48
nnyanyone gotta idea why fstab doesn't like uid=1000?09:48
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mwesuperm1: if it works as intended, no09:49
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SkidRowhow do i execute a .deb file?09:49
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K-Richhow do i connect to an nfs share on another breezy box ?09:49
robin_dpkg -i filename.deb09:49
patrick52222!wine09:49
mwe!deb09:49
ubotuTo install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)09:49
concept10SkidRow, execute or install?09:49
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SkidRowconcept10, install09:50
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robin_see, what I posted ;)09:50
concept10SkidRow, ^^09:50
SkidRowoh ok thank you09:50
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NafaiDoes anyone know where I can get vim 7 packages for Ubuntu dapper?09:51
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Apostle^Nafai: tried searching apt ?09:51
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chickenmanHi, can someone tell me what I need to install to use make ?09:52
Apostle^build-essential09:52
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chickenmanThanks09:52
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buzzedwow09:52
NafaiApostle^: You mean in the regular repositories?  That's vim 6.409:52
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Apostle^Nafai: you can search the vim website for packages? or google it then.09:53
SkidRowwhen i click frostwire nothing happens09:53
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buzzedthoughts on a good mp3 player/ipod, podcatcher09:55
buzzedcompatible wth linux/ubuntu09:55
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Apostle^buzzed: you want an mp3 player or software for podcasts09:55
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buzzedi connected my ipod to my ubuntu box... and it's dead...09:56
Apostle^dead?09:56
fliegenderfroschbuzzed, i have a iriver h140 and it workes fine with ubuntuz09:56
buzzedwon't work09:56
Sionidegtkpod has worked fine for me in the past, with other peoples ipods (i don't have one)09:56
bolrodthe ipod is dead?09:56
Apostle^bolrod: you need to mount it09:57
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Apostle^!ipod09:57
ubotuinfo for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto09:57
pigohi09:57
buzzedwell it keep clicking...09:57
pigohelp me09:57
bolrodand...09:57
pigoplease09:57
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mwe!helpme09:57
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.09:57
SkidRowim having trouble with frostwire, it requires java, so i installed java 2 runtimes enviroment but it still doesnt work when i click it09:57
ggilbertI've seen that xchat is being removed from the default install of ubuntu in dapper, and I can definitely see the sense in that. Will it continue to exist as a supported app in main in the future or is it going to be moved into universe?09:58
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pigosoftware for creative web cam pro ex09:58
Apostle^ggilbert: it's being removed?09:58
sorush20how do I make sure that the port 110 and 25 and 143 are open and thunderbird can access them?09:58
FlannelKingggilbert: believe in dapper it's xchat-gnome, instead of just xchat09:58
lucaasindeed09:58
Apostle^sorush20: use firestarter, sudo apt-get install firestarter09:58
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lucaaswhich is bad, xchat is nicer09:58
pigochat for creative web cam pro ex09:58
bolrodsorush20: all ports are open by default09:58
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HedgeMage:P09:59
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bolrod:] 09:59
bolrodfmppfffmf mpmmppfmp09:59
cassidyggilbert: there is no more client irc by default but xchat-gnome is in main09:59
FlannelKingyeah, its being removed from ubuntu-desktop (not being replced by -gnome, removing an IRC client all together).  poor form, if you ask me.09:59
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HedgeMageFlannelKing: what? this is very sad news.09:59
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Tomcat_FlannelKing: No xchat-gnome by default? That's news to me. :(09:59
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ggilbertWell, I can see the argument for it. I was mostly wondering if it was remaining in main. I can go through the trouble to install it myself with the lovely add/remove app :)09:59
cassidythey argue than gaim can be used for irc chat :\09:59
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bolrodO_o10:00
cassidybut gaim is a pain for that10:00
bolrodyou can use telnet for irc chat10:00
bolrodare you going to use telnet now?10:00
cassidyindeed :D10:00
FlannelKingTomcat_: yep, no xchat in any sense, in the initial install, you can install it and its supported obviously.  Problem is, well, for one thing, it'll mean a LOT less liveCD traffic in here.10:00
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aneciarahi10:00
viniI have an "S3 Graphics UniChrome Pro IGP Series VIA P4M800CE chipset" and want to use it at Ubuntu Dapper Drake Flight 5, somebody can help me?10:00
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buzzedso ipod/itunes is the way to go?10:00
comradedoes the default install come with an ftp client10:00
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ggilbertApparantly they're going to to be setting something up to simplify getting gaim onto irc. Which might be plenty for most people10:01
comradelike a gui one10:01
Tomcat_FlannelKing: Quite sad though. I liked the idea of always having an IRC client anywhere, be it default install or LiveCD. :\10:01
bolrodpfff10:01
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PwcrLinuxGaim 2.0 still in beta10:01
bolrodwhy not irssi ?10:01
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bolrodwith gui10:01
cassidycomrade: nautilus is used for ftp connection10:01
Sionidehttp://behindubuntu.org/ <-- nice:)10:01
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comradecassidy, I see now thanks10:02
pablo--mvdhi! ive configured ltsp server over ubuntu 5.1010:02
FlannelKingTomcat_: right.  no idea why they took it out, we get a lot of people in here fresh.  now they'll have to rely on the forums, if they ever get there.10:02
pablo--mvdnbow i need help in the config of the clients!10:02
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cassidybolrod: furthermore they want to use gaim for live support (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport) IMHO it's a bad idea ...10:02
pablo--mvdthe clients HAVE a HD that i want to use10:02
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FlannelKinggaim for ... ugh.  that's a horrid idea.10:02
cassidybut i'm a xchat-gnome developer so i'm not impartial :)10:03
pablo--mvdhow do i install a minimal linux in the clients so that at the end of their boot process they connect to the ubuntu server?10:03
FlannelKingheh.  Live chat support?  sounds an awful lot like irc to me ;)10:03
bolrodit probably is just an icon to get here10:03
dewlappyi'm trying to share a folder over the network between two ubuntu machines using samba..i'm getting a password prompt for the machine that i'm trying to access and my user password isn't working.10:03
ninAlright, this is kinda annoying... :(10:04
bolroddewlappy: try looking at nfs10:04
buzzedwhat is the best supported portable mp3 player... mainly for podcasts?10:04
bolrodnfs is way cooler then samba10:04
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dewlappy......well, i need to be able to share the data with the other two windows machines on the network too10:04
FlannelKingbolrod: right, that's what it sounds like "gets to a freenode login" but, gaim?10:04
Nikdoes anyone know of another place/mirror to get install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz? The official site's download gives me a broken link.10:04
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RootSnatchhey I have a simple question10:04
RootSnatchI am going to get a sempron 64 chip.  Does all of my software need to be amd64 compatible10:04
Rubinbuzzed: iriver makes some cool players. basically stay away from anything that doesnt support mp3 and ogg, and you'll probably want wma support too10:04
RootSnatchr can I also run x86 stuff10:04
nnywhat the bleep is going on here!10:04
nnyok10:05
bolroddewlappy: you can use both samba and nfs10:05
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nnyso whats up with fstab, mount and resierfs10:05
RootSnatchI am gunna get the x86-64 version of ubuntu10:05
buzzedRubin: Thx10:05
dewlappyok, well...what am i doing wrong to samba that it's not letting me into the files on the one machine10:05
viniI found the "S3 Graphics UniChrome Pro IGP Series VIA P4M800CE chipset" driver, but just to Linux XFree86 (Not distribution-specific), Mandrake / Mandriva Linux, Fedora Core 1.0, 2.0 & 4.0 Linux, Fedora Core 3.0 Linux...10:05
nnyi can't mount resierfs with uid or gid, and man fstab says nothing of what options are available for resierfs10:05
nnyreiserfs*10:05
bolrodsamba can be a bit of a hassle to configure10:05
bolrod!samba10:06
uboturumour has it, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html10:06
RootSnatchcan any of you guys answer my question?10:06
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ggilbertRootSnatch:  Can? Yes. Easilly? sometimes10:07
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RootSnatchso sometimes the x86 stuff will work10:07
RootSnatchand sometimes it won't10:07
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ggilbertNo, it will work. It's just that it won't always be simple to make work.10:08
xbox_skywhere is my C: located in wine? aka where is the wine directory?10:08
ggilbertIt depends on what libraries that program depends on10:08
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WarboRootSnatch: Most open source software has 64-bit versions, but the "chroot" should let you run almost any 32bit with no emulation. QEmu could run 32bit Linux code on 64bit Linux if the worst comes to the worst10:08
nargxbox_sky: .wine/drive_c10:08
tonyyarussoxbox_sky: ~/.wine/something10:08
nargxbox_sky: ~/.wine rather :)10:08
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pluffsyhi10:09
xbox_skythank you :)10:09
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RootSnatchok10:09
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pluffsyanyone here knows how well ubuntu supports the intel macs? like my macbook? fans and such? does it even boot?10:09
ggilbertpluffsy: None of the current releases will boot on them10:09
pluffsyggilbert: no EFI support?10:09
RootSnatchhas it been tried yet?10:09
Warbopluffsy: Linux shoould boot on them, but I don't know if Ubuntu comes with support by default10:10
tonyyarussopluffsy: I have only talked to one person who tried it so far, and it was tricky but making progress.  Future releases should be fine.10:10
Warbopluffsy: elilo boots EFI10:10
pluffsyWarbo: and elilo is a part of the standard install cd?10:10
ggilbertRootSnatch: if you care about things like java, flash, and wmv9, you might find life simpler in the x86 ubuntu releases10:10
Warbopluffsy: No, it isn't10:10
pluffsytonyyarusso: future releases like the next release?10:11
pluffsyWarbo: darn...10:11
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RootSnatchwait can I get a 64 bit processor and run x86 ubuntu10:11
ggilbertRootSnatch: yes10:11
RootSnatcho and it would be pretty much normal when running software10:11
WarboRootSnatch: I think that is how most windoze are run10:11
tonyyarussopluffsy: I don't think Dapper's quite on that, but Dapper+1 should be a safe bet (I'm honestly not sure).10:11
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pluffsyalright10:11
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ggilbertSomeone actually was discussing that on the most recent lugradio :p10:12
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pluffsyA friend installed ubuntu 64-bit and had problems with lots of packages not working for 64-bit. so he installed 32-bit. but that10:12
pluffsy's all I know10:13
jadamsis there any way to pipe audio output over the network?10:13
jadamsright now I ssh into my media center and tunnel an X window back so I can use rhyhtmbox to manage my media center, and play it out of my main ht speakers10:13
Stormx2wierd question guys... does anyone know where the favourites section of IE is stored? Is it on the windows registary?10:13
jadamswhich is what I usually want...but I might want to have it pipe audio to another computer's speakers...10:14
DeBertAnybody got a clue why the installation of the flash plugin for firefox fails? And when i try to download it manually, it can't find the file on macromedia.com :S10:14
Warbojadams: There is a different sound server which is compatible with ALSA and sends it over network, but I forgot it's name10:14
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ggilbertStormx2: Been a while, but I think it was a sub directory of your user's home directory10:14
RootSnatchcool so the 32 bit version works just fine on the 64 bit proc10:14
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ggilbertStormx2: Hidden by default, I think10:14
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Stormx2ggilbert: k10:14
ggilbertRootSnatch: yup10:14
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RootSnatchawesome!10:14
WarboRootSnatch: Bit of a waste for 64bit processor though.10:14
RootSnatchya10:15
jadamsWarbo: thanks, knowing it exists will help me out10:15
ggilbertRootSnatch: I use the 64bit version and am happy with it, but there are those downsides10:15
WarboRootSnatch: Want to swap? :)10:15
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slavikgood news10:15
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pluffsystill lots of 64-bit apps aren10:15
xbox_skywhat name is my LPT1 on? and how do  I give it full access?10:15
slavikI got my dell 1907fp today and got itset up and such :D10:15
pluffsy't that much faster. if its not 3d-software or photo, video and that sort of high performance stuff. atleast from what I've notised10:16
RootSnatchya I am probably gunna get a 32-bit proc and just not deal with it10:16
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WarboThe only disadvantage I've found with 32bit is that I cannot zoom in my fractals far enough :)10:17
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dvdman_Hey guys10:18
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dvdman_im running breezy. I was reading about installing mplayer from multiuniverse10:18
fabriselinium: i'm on ubuntu live, how do i remove linux partitions10:18
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mwefabri: unmount and run cfdisk10:19
dvdman_root@laptop:/home/dvdman# apt-get install mplayer-58610:19
dvdman_Reading package lists... Done10:19
dvdman_Building dependency tree... Done10:19
dvdman_Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have10:19
dvdman_requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable10:19
dvdman_distribution that some required packages have not yet been created10:19
dvdman_or been moved out of Incoming.10:19
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dvdman_and poof10:19
dvdman_any ideas?10:19
mwedvdman_: don't paste here10:19
mwedvdman_: use pastebin.com or sth10:19
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_jasondvdman_: you need to enable multiverse10:19
dvdman__jason, : i did10:19
perehow do I scan my local network for used ip-addresses (I forgot the static IP of my xbox..:-) )10:19
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mwepere: nmap10:19
faziriprc.rizon.net10:19
_jasondvdman_: did you make sure you enabled breezy multiverse, and not just breezy-backports multiverse?10:19
dvdman__jason,  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse10:20
fabrihow do i unmount?10:20
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Warbodvdman: have you ap-tget update after enabling?10:20
dvdman_correct?10:20
mwefabri: type unmount10:20
dvdman_Warbo, of course10:20
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mwefabri: type mount to see what's mounted first10:20
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Nafaipere: ping 192.168.1.255 (Or whatever your broadcast address is)10:20
dvdman_deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse10:20
Warbodvdman: Did you type it better than I did?10:20
dvdman_is this all i need?10:20
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Nafaipere: You may need to use ping -b10:20
fabrialright i typed mount mwe10:20
hartz_Can anybody tell me how I can make a window show on all desktops under Enlightenment please10:20
_jasondvdman_: do you have universe too?10:20
mwefabri: good what did it say?10:20
dvdman__jason, no i dont think so10:21
fabrilots of things10:21
dvdman_do i need?10:21
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_jasondvdman_: mplayer probably has some dependencies in universe10:21
fabrimwe ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount10:21
fabri/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot on / type auto (rw,noatime)10:21
fabriproc on /proc type proc (rw)10:21
fabrisysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)10:21
fabridevpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)10:21
fabritmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)10:21
fabriusbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)10:21
fabritmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)10:21
_jasonubotu: tell fabri about paste10:21
mwesigh10:21
fabritmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)10:21
fabritmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)10:21
dvdman_k10:21
mwefabri: don't paste here10:21
dvdman_let me try10:21
Warbohartz: Which enlightenemnt? 16 or 1710:21
fabrimwe oh it didnt know10:21
Canard_I have a laptop running Ubuntu 5.10 it has a touch pad device. How do I get the scroll wheel on it to work?10:22
mwefabri: seems you are ready to type sudo cfdisk10:22
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mwefabri: is you disk /dev/hda?10:22
dvdman_that did it :)10:22
dvdman_i fink10:22
fabrimwe i think10:22
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youwhohi all10:22
mwefabri: type sudo cfdisk /dev/hda then.10:22
yggdrasilis there a way to copy the ubuntu cd onto a place on my network and use it asa repository ?10:22
mwefabri: highlight your partitions and type d to delete10:23
mwefabri: when you're done type capital W to write the changes10:23
fabriyes, i did10:23
AAAyggdrasil  sure, just use an nfs share and point apt that way10:23
Warbohartz_: Which enlightenment? E16 (very fast, lightweight) or E17 (crazy animated stuff)10:23
youwhodid anyone here have any problems with the colors on their monitors after installing linux?10:23
dvdman_Seems like linux video is much better now eh?10:23
fabrii think it will be okay now. thanks mwe10:23
dvdman_:)10:23
dvdman_THen it used to be10:23
yggdrasilaaa ive got a webserver on one of my boxes. could i put it there ?10:23
mwefabri: yw10:23
Canard_I have a laptop running Ubuntu 5.10 it has a touch pad device. How do I get the scroll wheel on it to work?10:24
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yggdrasilaaa i made a mistake and didnt install smb stuff on a box and now its kinda hard to get to it.10:24
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redeclipseCould someoe help a linux newb to find his ntfs disks? :/10:24
AAAyggdrasil  you could set it up as a repository (which would be a bit of work) or (I am pretty sure) you can just hack your apt.conf to point to the webserver:/nfs/share10:25
mweredeclipse: sudo fdisk -l10:25
MrRiohow can I remove all gui-related apps? can this be done by simply removing xserver using apt?10:25
mweredeclipse: probably /dev/hda1 for ide10:25
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AAAyggdrasil  is the box not on the Inet? why not just use the normal means?10:25
yggdrasilaaa yea its not on the internet10:25
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yggdrasilaaa im hoping that this box will get me on the internet. its on my roof10:25
johanneshello, how do i open TCP/UDP ports in ubuntu?10:25
yggdrasiland i removed the cd drive from it .10:26
mwejohannes: run a service there10:26
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mwejohannes: if nothing is listening it's closed10:26
mwejohannes: that's what it means10:26
dvdman_one more question :) it's been awile since i've used *nix as a desktop10:26
AAAyggdrasil  is it a routing issue to the Inet? if it is on your home network?10:26
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dvdman_any limewire clients these days?10:26
yggdrasilaaa no its not i have no internet connection10:27
johannesmwe: i know which ports are open and closed. I was wondering how i open new ports?10:27
NoUseCanard_ try using synaptic to install the synaptic driver, as odd as that sounds10:27
yggdrasilits on my lan.10:27
mwejohannes: like I said, run a service that listens10:27
yggdrasiland im going to use it as a router to the cyber cafe10:27
yggdrasildown the street10:27
mwejohannes: if you don't have anything listening on a port it can't be open10:27
johannesmwe: oh.. okay i understand10:27
dvdman_nc -l -p PORT -vvvv10:27
dvdman_;)10:27
johannesmwe: i want direct connect to be able to use port 412, what service should i start?10:28
AAAyggdrasil  I think the easiest way would be this: mount the cdrom on the nfs server, edit the /etc/exports to share the cdrom then on the roofbox mount the nfs share to /media/cdrom0 and make sure the cdrom entry still exists in the roofbox's /etc/apt/sources.list10:29
mwejohannes: direct connect I would asume, configuring it to listen to that port10:29
yggdrasilaaa that sounds like somethign doable10:29
johannesmwe: I have, but i doesn't work..10:29
AAAyggdrasil  good luck10:29
Warbohartz_: In E16 it is right-click title bar or alt-right click anywhere on the window and select "sticky"10:29
johannesi have to use passive10:29
mwejohannes: define doesn't work10:29
yggdrasilaaa the computer is dismantled and mounted on the inside of a 5 gallon plastic bucket .. on the roof10:30
mwejohannes: you should probably configure your client to listen to that port and also forward it from your router10:30
cih997hello everyone,10:30
WarboWoah! GAIM just caught up with itself. Did I miss much?10:30
AAAyggdrasil  c00l. does it have a parabolic antennae attached to a wifi card then? >;10:30
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johannesmwe: 1 sek10:31
yggdrasilaaa for now its just a regular antena but the parts for the can are on the way... maybe tomorow evening.10:31
yggdrasilbut im getting a pretty good signal on one weped ap10:31
cih997I have a problem: I need to mount NTFS partitions on my Ubuntu Live. I don't know how :(10:31
AAAyggdrasil  pringles yagi?mmmmmm10:31
dooglusI'm trying to use mplayer to play a movie that's stored on a different machine on the local network, but it keeps skipping.  is there some way to get mplayer to buffer a few seconds?10:31
mwejohannes: gotta reboot, bbl10:31
cih997Can anyone help me?10:31
dooglusI can copy the whole movie much quicker than playing it, so there's enough bandwidth.10:31
yggdrasilaaa yea but its an all metal cookie can that i got10:32
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AAAcih997  of course, that'll be $100 ;)10:32
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yggdrasili just got anxious waiting for the parts so i figured i might as well play with the neighbors wep keys and such... didnt install those packages.10:32
cih997ok, i'm on it :D10:32
toejamais it normal for a hardrive to have 9729 cylinders? fdisk says anything > 1024 could be problematic.10:32
AAAcih997  sup10:32
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AAAyggdrasil  mmmm kismet+wepcrack10:32
johannestoejama: it's okay10:33
yggdrasilits gonna be fun!!!10:33
yggdrasilgood ol ath010:33
AAAewwww cisco gear even10:33
yggdrasiland the bucket it sealed off nicely10:33
yggdrasilseems to be running stable up there.10:33
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AAAer, that is ateros huh, ow well10:33
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toejamai want to make sure that no rootkit exists on this drive. i am going to shred it before i put anything back onto it. should that be sufficient?10:33
acid-triphow do i adjust my screen size10:33
AAAtoejama  chkrootkit10:34
yggdrasilaaa yea i was surprised atherors is actualy more commonly accepted than the orinoco is now10:34
cih997AAA, is it possible?10:34
johannestoejama: chkrootkit should be enough?10:34
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AAAcih997  what is the questjion?10:34
toejamahmmm, well it's a windows installation10:34
AAAbut use one from another box!!!10:34
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cih997How can I mount NTFS partition on Ubuntu Live CD?10:35
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johannesmwe: okay, it's like this: no port opens when i open Direct Connect10:35
toejamachkrootkit not found on this ubuntu install10:35
bimbericih997: try the diskmounter script - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions10:35
AAAsome rootkits modify chkrootkit so make sure you use one from another box with a valid checksum10:35
AAAtoejama  apt-get install chkrootkit10:35
allenHello, I'm having issues with the latest kernel (2.6.15-20-amd64-k8) with Dapper. Is there anyone on that could help? My system doesn't boot with the *-k8 version but -generic works. the NVidia kernel module doesn't seem to work when I do boot generic.  Everything worked fine back on 2.6.15-19 a few days ago.10:35
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toejamaok10:35
mwejohannes: did you configure direct connect and are you running a firewall?10:35
cih997ok, I'll try10:35
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Canard_mouse: I had the basic driver installed, I added the packages designed for GNOME and KDE, but it still does not work10:36
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johannesmwe: i have no installed firewall, and i have configuered direct connect (I am 100% sure that it is not DC or the router) I can run DC from windows whithout problems10:36
acid-triphow do i reconfigure my x?10:36
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mwejohannes: what are you running in linux?10:37
acid-tripmwe, can  u help me please10:37
AAAacid-trip  short answer: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:37
vipernicushello, i'm considering switching from Gentoo to Ubuntu, I've been using Linux for 6 years now, so I'm not new.  a couple of questions: 1) 6.06 or 5.10? 2) Automatix or EasyUbuntu 3) Do either of those 2 work with 6.06? 4) I noticed on the live cd for 6.06 that there was reiser4 support and an installer, does the installer work?10:37
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johannesmwe: what do you mean?10:37
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acid-tripAAA, i mean i have to adjust my scree size10:37
acid-tripit thinks i'm blind10:37
acid-triplol10:37
mwejohannes: what direct connect program?10:37
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johannesmwe: linux DC++10:38
AAAacid-trip  sorry, I don't advise on gui apps10:38
johannesmwe: wulfor10:38
acid-tripi meant like sudo dpkg-reconfigure what10:38
ggilbertvipernicus: I'd recommend 5.10, for the other two questions I couldn't say10:38
mwejohannes: start it then run sudo netstat -ntlp to see listening ports10:38
AAAacid-trip  xserver-xorg I believe10:38
Canard_*nouse: I had the basic driver installed, I added the packages designed for GNOME and KDE, but it still does not work10:38
_jason!automatix10:39
ubotuit has been said that automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.10:39
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vipernicusggilbert: how unstable is 6.06?  I don't mind a couple of small bugs, as long as my bug reports can be fixed in a timely manner10:39
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AAA!easyubuntu10:39
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu10:39
johannesmwe: its not open10:39
_jasonvipernicus: #ubuntu+1 for dapper (6.06) but I believe at this point it is pretty stable10:39
bimberivipernicus: 1. 5.10 is stable, 6.06 is alpha, although looking good 2. easyubuntu 3&4 idk sorry10:39
acetechi have usb drive that i would like to mount.  the drive gets auto-mounted, under a nautulis folder I beleive.  how can i mount the drive under the /media/usbDrive?  i tried /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, /dev/sde1, etc in /etc/fstab10:39
pike_vipernicus: wiki.ubuntu.com instead of either of the scripty things10:39
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mwejohannes: um then direct connect is broken or misconfigured10:39
mwejohannes: it should listen10:39
cmduffuscan anyone in here help me with tvtime?  I don't know how to get it to work and the forums don't seem to be able to answer my questions?10:40
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mwejohannes: maybe it's listening on another port?10:40
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AAAacetech  what does mount say when you mount it? can you paste your /etc/fstab in pastebin?10:40
johannesmwe: yeah on 343310:40
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mwejohannes: like I said two times before, configure it to listen to the port you want10:41
johannesmwe: but it's configured to use 412, strange10:41
johannesmwe: I have!10:41
vipernicuspike_: seems kinda slow using the wiki when a script can give me the same results in a more timely manner?10:41
mwejohannes: I don't know your client it sounds broken10:41
ggilbertvipernicus: It's stable enough for *my* home use, but I tend to not recommend development releases for people, because they can and have in the past broken unexpectedly and horribly10:41
acetech/dev/sda2   /media/usbKey   auto   defaults,user,noauto   0 010:41
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AAAcmduffus  /join #tvtime ?10:41
johannesmwe: do you know another client that is okay to use?10:41
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cmduffusok, thanks10:41
mwejohannes: dcgui10:41
mwejohannes: it at least works10:42
vipernicusggilbert: i've been using Gentoo unstable with crazy cflags, cxxflags and ldflags for almost 2 years now10:42
johannesmwe: yeah okay thanks for your time buddy10:42
cih997AAA, it's working! Thanks!10:42
vipernicusgglibert: i can handle slightly unstable10:42
mwejohannes: no many bells and whistles though10:42
AAAcih997  good for you10:42
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AAAvipernicus  then why not just run debian unstable?10:42
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vipernicusAAA: what's the benefit of Debian Unstable to Ubuntu Dapper?10:43
ggilbertUbuntu has a saner release process :)10:43
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mwesaner hmm. faster at least10:43
AAAvipernicus  I honestly don't know, I run ubuntu because I am lazy and don't have any more production servers on the Inet :(10:43
vipernicusAAA: also, how simple is it to compile my own kernel for Debian, I tend to like CK better than Ingo10:43
AAAvipernicus  make-kpg is prefered and works ok, you have to get used to debianism whether you run debian or ubuntu10:44
Canard_Nouse?10:44
vipernicusAAA: i've used make-kpg before, but I'm not sure how much extra patching Ubuntu or Debian uses now10:44
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ggilbertAAA: My experience with Debian is that the uncertainty of release phases can lead to larger components not being upgraded for signficant periods of time. Since the developers don't think they can get away with stabilizing them in time for a release.10:45
mweI run a custom kernel without make-kpg10:45
toejamais there a way to recover your root password?10:45
WarboAAA: I use module-assistant10:45
dvdman_I must say ubuntu is the best distro i've seen in a long ass time10:45
dvdman_i think it kills fedora10:45
AAAggilbert  that is very true. there is a lot of drama with the debian maintainers, I think the ubuntu team has done a remarkable job in that area10:45
mwevipernicus: ubuntu is using quite a few patches. my kernel works fine without them though10:45
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dvdman_everything just works with out issues10:45
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AAAfedorka == teh corporate suck10:46
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allenWould this be the proper place to ask a question regarding the latest kernel on amd64. 2.6.15-19-amd-k8 worked fine for me but my system doesn't boot with 2.6.15-20-amd64-k8. I've been running Dapper for a while and it seems every 2nd or 3rd kernel doesn't boot on my system, I end up running an older version until a newer one starts working.10:46
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Warbotoejama: Use the recovery mode boot-up or put the "single" option in your "kernel" line in GRUB then run passwd10:46
vipernicusmy boss had me kill all of our redhat servers when i started working here10:46
AAAmwe  I often run a custom kernel with the debian patches without problem (except for the ones I create myself)10:46
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mweyeah10:47
toejamaWarbo: thank you10:47
mwewell if you think you need them10:47
AAAvipernicus  good for you!! and thanks10:47
ggilbertvipernicus: I'd actually recommend trying to stick with Ubuntu's kernels. I used to be the sort of person who built my own kernels with the patches I liked, but I've found that it's rather refreshing not having to worry about that sort of thing.10:47
ggilbertThe ubuntu kernels, "just work"10:47
Warbotoejama: Add a password (a different one :)) to GRUB to stop other people getting your password10:47
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Canard_I have a laptop running Ubuntu 5.10, the scroll whell on the touch pad does not work. Does anyone have any idea what I should do?10:47
vinisomebody can tell me where is the video card drivers directory? I read it's on "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/" but I didn't find it10:48
AAAggilbert  and chock full of modules, but that is another debate. "vim or emacs for ya sir"...10:48
mweI need things like sdhci not in the ubuntu kernel10:48
toejamaWarbo: yeah, then i'll probably forget that one!10:48
Warbovivi: I think maybe /lib/modules/kernelversion/kernel/drivers/video10:48
vipernicusggilbert: hmm, I'll give it a try, but I tend to itch when I hear con's released another patch, or I can get better filesystem performance with so and so io scheduler, etc10:48
toejamaleast used == more likely to forget :(10:48
fliegenderfroschi'm trying to resize a fat32 partition, but qtparted, gparted and the ubuntu-installer fail. what else can i do?10:48
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ph1qt10nhow can i extend the desktop to another monitor on ubuntu?10:49
Warbotoejama: That's why you use a different one. Although only Linux-knowledgeable people (or with access to Google) would know how to break into your system10:49
ggilbertvipernicus: Yeah. Being able to tweak it is nice. I've just found I like letting someone else do it :)10:49
tonyyarussoCanard_: You probably need to manually edit your xorg.conf file.  I unfortunately don't have a URL to point you too at this time with good documentation offhand, but hopefully that can at least get you pointed in the right direction.10:49
vipernicusggilbert: yeah, main reason why I am leaving Gentoo, is my insane need to tweak10:49
ph1qt10nhow can i extend the desktop to another monitor on ubuntu?10:50
toejamaWarbo: ok, thanks10:50
vipernicusph1qt10n: if you wait a couple more secs, i can get you some documentation10:50
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AAAvipernicus  what? I thought that was the whole concept of gentoo, that and speeeeed. why not just do LFS then...10:50
ggilbertvipernicus: I actually came to ubuntu from gentoo as well. Redhat -> Debian -> Gentoo -> Ubuntu10:50
moonwatcheri have a wired problem with a wireless 2200GB card10:50
ph1qt10nvipernicus: thank you10:51
AAAggilbert  that is an odd digression10:51
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moonwatcherit goes up but gets an ipv6 address, which is not good10:51
myfunny!w32codecs10:51
ubotuI heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install10:51
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ggilbertAAA: there was a method to my madness. I didnt like what Redhat did with 7.0, so I swapped to debian. Then I got frustrated with the last year of the woody release proccess, so I switched to Gentoo, then I got tired of compiling stuff. :)10:52
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toejamawell, i'm not sure that i forgot my root password now. i can get to the updates from the update manager when it asks for the password...10:52
toejamabut when i run su it won't work10:52
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vipernicusph1qt10n: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors10:52
ggilbertUbuntu seemed like it addressed the things I disliked in debian, while maintaining the qualities I liked.10:53
NoUsetoejama root is disabled in ubuntu10:53
Canard_Thanks tonyyarusso, need to reboot now, talk later10:53
ph1qt10nvipernicus: thank you so much bro, god bless10:53
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bimberimoonwatcher: you could try this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv410:53
toejamaso i'm root all the time then?10:53
FlannelKing!tell toejama about root10:53
DempaI got a kind of unusual setup with two monitors (VGA,DVI) with dualview and a tv on the tv-out, this is with a GeForce 5700 card. Is it possible to start a seperate xsession on the tv and one on the monitors?10:53
toejamathx10:53
NoUsetoejama no, that would be a supremely bad idea :-)10:53
AAAggilbert  I agree, I have been dinking around with it for over a year, but I still like doing a 10m netinst and grabbing a few apps and leaving the box to work10:54
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toejamayeah, i'm learning that in windows10:54
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hawk_wolfAAA, whats up man, I'm still struggling with guidedog, do you know of a tutorial somewhere?10:56
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AAAhawk_wolf  is it working for you as a gateway? what exactly do you want it to do that it is not?10:57
jdonghow do you make /var/log obey a umask?10:57
hawk_wolfI want my other computer to be able to surf.10:57
ubuntugood question10:57
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toejamaok, so sudo replaces the need to login as root to run administrative stuff and all you need is your own password. is that less secure than having to know the root pass?10:57
jdongtoejama: actually, it's more secure if done correctly10:58
vipernicusmy linux walk:  Redhat 5 > Slackware 7.x > Mandrake 8.x > Debian > Mandrake 9.x > Gentoo10:58
toejamai was just thinking that. it makes sense, since nobody knows anything about any other account10:58
AAAhawk_wolf  then paste the output of:>ifconfig -a   >route -n   >cat /etc/init.d/guidedog10:59
jdongtoejama: also, sudo keeps good logs, so you can tell who did what under sudo10:59
AAAhawk_wolf  do that in the pastebin of course!!10:59
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jdongtoejama: plus, users only have to know one password, which motivates them to pick a stronger one10:59
hawk_wolfWhere is pastbin?10:59
blindxpastebin.com11:00
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hawk_wolfthanks11:00
AAA!pastepin11:00
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, AAA11:00
blindx!pastebin11:00
ubotupastebin is, like, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126911:00
blindx :P11:00
looksausany ppc dapper users with firefox probs?11:00
AAAd0h11:00
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Erixhi11:00
jdongwell, it seems like pam covers almost everything11:00
jdongso libpam-umask should do the trick11:01
icemananyone done a superkaramba build11:01
jdongif put in common-session11:01
jdongcron obeys it...11:01
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jdongunsure if system services do11:01
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Comrade_Sergeihow do i use my ipod pn linux11:02
_jason!ipod11:03
ubotuinfo for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto11:03
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Comrade_Sergeithanks11:03
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_Avatar_Hello.11:03
AAAhawk_wolf  I have to meet a client soon, you should paste that soon11:03
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hawk_wolfEh, I'm gonna have to get to it later my 2yr old just woke up.11:04
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AAAhawk_wolf  such is life, paste all of that and save the link, I'll check it later11:04
hawk_wolfcool.11:04
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hawk_wolftalk to you later.11:05
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majkhiianybody who know how can i instal *.sh file?11:05
xerxes13plz help someone. i just installed ubuntu . what should i do to be able to run programme, games based on windows? s11:05
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_Avatar_is freecontrib.org offline/slow?11:06
rahwill the amd64 architecture usable on em64t?11:06
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raherr.. us11:07
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vipernicusi'm out of here all, later11:08
vipernicusbig channel11:08
vipernicusand only a few ppl talking11:08
fmonroeNEWB Q: I would be grateful for help changing the load order of my sound card  and usb headset so that the headset would be default and work with my rdesktop, TIA11:08
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majkhiipls help :)11:08
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king-of-no-pantsalright Im back11:09
Pete-Gas#ubuntu+111:09
Pete-Gasopps11:09
ggilbertfmonroe: Try going into the audio dialog under System / Preferences. It will let you choose the default sound device11:09
king-of-no-pantshow do I delete a file that is "Acess Denied"?11:09
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fmonroeggilbert: thanks, but that only seems to work for gnome11:10
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theD3viLi have two soundcards in computer. how to make default one?11:10
king-of-no-pantsi think its in the bios11:10
ggilbertfmonroe: Then the next best thing to do is to google for alsa and module load order11:10
theD3viLking-of-no-pants: i dont think so11:10
_Avatar_theD3vil, you want both on? one on and one off? one pci and the othe ronboard?11:11
king-of-no-pantswell, i could be wrong11:11
nnyok i broke apt-get :(11:11
ggilbertfmonroe: You can do it, but I don't recall how11:11
fabrimwe: i've removed the linux partitions and reinstalled windows and still can't load it11:11
fabrimwe: what can i do11:11
nnyi try to do an apt-get upgrade and it spits a broke pipe error11:11
nnyon fileroller11:11
king-of-no-pantsI just remember disabling my onboard sound through the BIOS11:11
slackernUsually the built-in soundcard can be disabled from within the bios.11:11
kungtheD3viL the ones module you load first will become the first one11:11
theD3viL_Avatar_: pci card: always active, onboard: always active, but not default11:11
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ggilbertfmonroe: Essentially there is a module option you can apply to the usb audio module that tells it to load after another11:11
king-of-no-pantsmy onboard is not active11:11
nnyany advce?11:11
king-of-no-pantsI put a new battery in...11:12
_Avatar_easy way is to turn off the onboard at the bios... why would you want 2 cards btw?11:12
theD3viLkung: hm...do i have to blacklist then onboard one or what ?11:12
ggilberttheD3viL: also, read what I was saying to fmonroe, since he had the same question :p11:12
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slackernhmm what if you rightclick the speakicon in gnome and change the audio device there?11:12
charles`which package contains "checkinstall"?11:12
slackernspeak/speaker11:12
ggilbert_Avatar_: onboard audio and a usb headset would do it11:12
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fmonroeoptions snd_intel8x0 index=-2 is what i tried it was supposed to change the order but didn't work11:12
mwefabri: what happens?11:12
mwefabri: grub loads?11:12
fabrimwe: it says grub loader and something, then it says error 20 and stops11:13
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ggilbertfmonroe: Try setting the index for the usb audio to 10. It might not do negative indexes11:13
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fabrimwe: that's it, no windows, or nothing11:13
mlehrerWe can stage a runaway golfcart marathon!11:13
darxgreetings...11:13
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dan1115jjhjh11:13
ggilberttheD3viL: You might want to follow what fmonroe is doing, since he has the same problem11:13
mwefabri: you should remove grub. you can boot the xp cd to recovery console and type fixboot and fixmbr11:13
Hankdehannoverola11:13
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ompaul!es11:14
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:14
_Avatar_i am using only an onboard... waiting for my m-audio delta 44 to arrive... i will use it linked to a ham radio box....11:14
fliegenderfroschcharles`, there's a packet called checkinstall11:14
darxDoes ubuntu release the dhcp lease during the shutdown process?11:14
fmonroewhat's best way to force reload of snd modules? alsa-util?11:14
_Avatar_i will have this same problem soon..11:14
ggilbertfmonroe: Going on what I remember, you're on the right track11:14
fabrimwe: i don't have an actual windows bootable cd, just a recovery cd from my computer, wich install an image11:14
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fabrimwe: how i do that11:14
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darxDoes ubuntu release the dhcp lease during the shutdown process? any clues?????11:15
michael117When setting up remote desktop though VNC, does the host computer transmit all audio streams to the viewer?11:15
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mwefabri: I don't know how to install the windows mbr then. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=446 count=1 will remove grub but I'm not sure if it will leave in a state where it can't boot anything then or the nt bootloader will load11:16
fmonroethanks for the help everyone i'll keep trying let you know what i find out11:16
mwewhat's the command to flush the file buffers?11:17
jdongmwe: sync11:17
mweoh yeah11:17
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jdongmwe: don't count on it though :)11:17
jdonglol11:17
jdongwhy are you syncing?11:17
Stormx2michael117: Didn't think it transmitted any audio11:18
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mwejdong: because I deleted some files from a memory card but they appeared again11:18
mwejdong: I think it was because of buffering11:18
jdongmwe: did you umount the card before pulling it out?11:18
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jdongthough the eject utility or umount on the terminal?11:18
mwejdong: no should that be done automatically?11:18
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jdongmwe: not if you don't tell it to11:19
michael117Stormx2: I wasn't sure because I am going to connect to this computer from another really old computer somewhere else in the house over the network11:19
mwejdong: ok I thought so since it mounted automatically11:19
Hankdehannoverhi11:19
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jdongmwe: it doesn't unmount magically11:19
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mweI see11:19
jdongmwe: you can't psychically determine when a user has finished using a device ;)11:19
Hankdehannoveri am a new user of ubuntu11:19
mwejdong: true11:19
jdongmwe: opensuse does though... by unmounting and remounting between every operation11:20
jdongit causes unnecessary stress on devices11:20
mweheh11:20
lz1gjdI have an issue running the ati drivers my x800gto videocard and ubuntu, i installed them using the drapper ati how2 wiki and when I try to start X, my screen goes blank, system continues to load and keyboard seems to function but there is no video output to my monitor. Could any1 point a solution to this ?11:20
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mwesounds like overkill yes11:20
jdongplus you still don't know for sure if the system has a file open....11:20
Hankdehannoverhow can install rhapsody irc11:20
kingspawnjdong: that sounds extremely stupid11:20
jdongkingspawn: especially on CD's, where there's a huge delay11:20
kingspawnjdong: ugh :/11:20
Hankdehannoveri am from spain11:20
jdongso make sure you unmount before removing11:21
King_Of_No_Pantsdoes anyone know a good list of ubuntu commands?11:21
Hankdehannovermy english is short jajaja11:21
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jdongto be extra safe, unmount then sync, but that's unnecessary ;)11:21
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beastymorning all11:21
tonyyarussoubotu: tell King_Of_No_Pants about cli11:21
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jdongKing_Of_No_Pants: linux commands are fairly generic11:22
beastyi got like probs installing it :p11:22
King_Of_No_Pantsneato11:22
jdongKing_Of_No_Pants: there are plenty of online tutorials on the linux command line11:22
jdongthat'd be a good place to start11:22
King_Of_No_Pantsthanks11:22
jdongthere is also a debian cheatsheet somewhere containing debian (apt-get , dpkg) and ubuntu specific stuff11:23
jdongUbuntu is extremely close to debian11:23
beastyisn't it based on debian ?11:23
King_Of_No_Pantscool11:23
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King_Of_No_Pantsit uses the debian installer11:23
Apostle^beasty: yes11:23
jdongbeasty: correct. It is based off debian11:23
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jdongbeasty: the first release was largely binary-compatible with Debian11:23
beastyok wish me luck11:24
beastytrying it again11:24
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beastyalways fails while installing the 'main system'11:24
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beastybtw the installer installs debconf ?11:25
lz1gjdplease, could any1 help me with my problem ???11:25
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jdongbeasty: I would expect so11:25
beastylz1gjd state your problem11:25
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jdongbeasty: a lot of packages use debconf (i.e. xorg for one)11:25
beastyidd11:26
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lz1gjdwell I posted it already , but here it is again : ""11:26
beastyfirst time i'm installing ubuntu :)11:26
lz1gjdwell I posted it already , but here it is again : "I have an issue running the ati drivers my x800gto videocard and ubuntu, i installed them using the drapper ati how2 wiki and when I try to start X, my screen goes blank, system continues to load and keyboard seems to function but there is no video output to my monitor. Could any1 point a solution to this ?"11:26
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King_Of_No_Pantshow can I delete a protected directory?11:26
jdongKing_Of_No_Pants: use sudo11:26
King_Of_No_Pantsi am11:26
King_Of_No_Pantsbut the rm command will only delete files11:27
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beastyjdong got X ?11:27
jdongKing_Of_No_Pants: sudo rm -rf /path/to/file11:27
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King_Of_No_Pantsthanks11:27
jdongKing_Of_No_Pants: be careful with it though... make sure you get your paths right11:27
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King_Of_No_Pantsyeah, i believe you11:27
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mundihi all has anybody resolution 1280x800 (widescreen) on laptop ??11:28
jdongKing_Of_No_Pants: (it takes a total of 45 seconds on my system to remove every single file)11:28
King_Of_No_Pantshehe11:28
jdongbeasty: huh?11:28
jdongbeasty: most graphical linux installs will have X :)11:28
redeclipseargh... why is it I get a "The folder contents could not be displayed" window after mounting my ntfs disk? =S11:28
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jdongredeclipse: permissons? was umask=0222 one of your options?11:28
redeclipseyup11:28
lz1gjdi tried latest ati drivers "ati-driver-installer-8.24.8-x86" , those that came with drapper drake flight 6 and same problem, no video output to my screen11:29
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mundicouse i cannot acheve 1280x800 - it seems to be in xorg.conf file but not working with i810 intel driver11:29
jdongmundi: you may need 915resolution hacks11:29
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jdongmundi: I don't know exactly how they work... I'm sure someone here does11:29
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mundihmm11:30
mundimaybe i need new drivers for intel 855 intel graphic card11:30
jdongmundi: I believe some of the intel cards won't list all the resolutions they support11:30
redeclipsejdong: Do linux have some "max view" size or something.. cos all my other partition works, this one is 250gb :/11:31
King_Of_No_Pants400Mhz is slow...11:31
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jdongredeclipse: not really...11:31
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redeclipsehm, ok11:32
jdongit's likely a permission error11:32
nnyok could use some help here... getting apt-get error11:32
redeclipsemaybe.. but I did the same with all the other partitions :/11:32
beastyjdong: can you help me ? :p11:32
lamegoredeclipse, try: sudo nautilus11:33
lamegoto see if you can access the mount point11:33
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jdongbeasty: with what?11:33
beastyhttp://dpr.webware.be/ub.jpg11:33
King_Of_No_Pantsstupid me11:33
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beastylook @ that11:33
jdongredeclipse: if that works, then it's a permissions issue. sudo is only a workaround for that11:33
King_Of_No_PantsI installed a program all over my desktop11:33
jdongbeasty: your kernel failed to install for some reason11:33
tha_gamemasteris there any way to upgrade kernels without installing the latest version? my friend is using hoary11:33
jdongbeasty: try ALT+F3 or ALT+F411:33
tha_gamemasterno wait... what is it ? 2.6.1011:34
jdongbeasty: one console should have some logs11:34
nnyhmm anyone?11:34
jdongbeasty: see if any of those provides a better reason why linux-386 didn't install11:34
blindxI'm having some troubles with Flash.... I have no sound, and some games just don't want to play for some reason :\ They start to, but they never get interactive.11:34
jdongtha_gamemaster: you'd have to compile your own.... they are not always compatible with older releases11:34
mundiand maybe someone will help me with ET - is running fine but in full screen mode i see only screen in the corner11:34
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looksaushttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/40067/+index11:35
looksausany more dapper-on-powerpc users here who can confirm this?11:35
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mundii have 1024x768 resolution11:35
lamegotha_gamemaster, you can try to install the breezy linux packages but I believe there are other dependencies which are not met on hoary11:35
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beastymm11:35
alex_hello11:35
alex_is there a way to install flight6 on a DVD11:35
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Apostle^http://pastebin.com/668074 <--- somone look @ that?11:35
beastyjdong: it says md5 missmatch11:36
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alex_!UPGRADE11:36
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.11:36
King_Of_No_Pantsanyone here ever install Folding@Home in linux?11:36
tha_gamemasterjdong: that's fine i suppose, i don't mind compiling a new kernel but i just want it to work for my friend who installed ubuntu because she isn't really ready for kernel compilation :) but she could be...11:36
NoxionHoly friggin shit there are a lot of people in here11:36
tha_gamemasterlamego: how can i add the breezy repositories?11:36
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lamegotha_gamemaster, you can manually download the .deb files from breezu, you set the breezy repos you will get a full system upgrade..11:37
lamegofrom breezy I mean11:37
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tha_gamemastertanks lamego11:37
tha_gamemasterthanks*11:37
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tha_gamemasterthanks alex_11:37
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PlugHi.11:37
jammyflynn99hi ubantu users11:37
King_Of_No_Pantsanyone here ever install Folding@Home in linux?11:37
NoxionAnyone able to help me to get my NIC working in Kubuntu?11:37
tha_gamemasterlamego: would a full system upgrade be destructive?11:38
King_Of_No_Pantsis it wireless?11:38
blindxAnyone know why flash won't work right in FF but will in IE through wine?11:38
NoxionNo11:38
lamegotha_gamemaster, usually not, but read the wiki :P11:38
tha_gamemasterlamego: k thanks.11:38
NoxionEthernet11:38
Apostle^http://pastebin.com/668074 <--- somone look @ that?11:38
King_Of_No_Pantsmine auto configured...11:38
PlugThe Dapper Flight 5 CD detects my Areca SATA-RAID controller and installs to it, but seems the installed kernel doesn't support the controller and can't find the disk?  Anyone got around this?11:38
nickrudblindx, flash 8 & shockwave don't work under linux11:38
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blindxnickrud, but it's running in IE on linux11:38
NoxionWell I was able to get it enabled11:38
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NoxionAnd I did a sudo route add default gw IP11:38
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King_Of_No_Pantsand in network settings, is it active?11:39
jammyflynn99i just thought id say that ive been using debian for 2 week and its tough tough --- ubantu is somthing else its so easy to install and the help files show exactly how to install anything well nearly11:39
skypa<blindx> nickrud, but it's running in IE on linux <-- eww11:39
NoxionAnd got the gateway to stick so to speak11:39
Noxionbut still no net11:39
looksausblindx, yes, I know they say wine is not an emulator, but it is, really11:39
nickrudblindx, yes, that's under wine running the windows version of flash11:39
ryanpghi all, how to I completely uninstall a package that's broken?11:39
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blindxahhhhhh i see..11:39
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=== skypa spanks blindx
blindxskypa wtf?11:39
skypa:p11:39
Plugryanpg: console or GUI?11:39
nickrudblindx, I have firefox under wine for just that, so you can slap skypa right back :)11:39
King_Of_No_Pantshave you tried ifconfig?11:39
ryanpgPlug, either is fine... when I run dpkg --remove I'm prompted to reinstall the package first11:40
jammyflynn99anyone know how to install every package available11:40
NoxionWhen do that says I dont have access11:40
looksausblindx, many people here are sensitive to the fact that Adobe refuses to share information about11:40
NoxionIm trying this from aLive CD I might add11:40
lamegojames_, sudo apt-get upgrade11:40
skypayou do sth and I shall get slapped.. life ain't fair :(11:40
Plugryanpg: dpkg --purge ?11:40
nickrudjammyflynn99, you can't, some conflict with one another11:40
looksausworking with flash animations11:40
beastyjdong: isn't there some sort of netinstall iso ?11:40
jammyflynn99ohh i see11:40
ryanpgPlug, I'll give it a shot thanks11:40
PlugYou can use dpkg --set-selections to change what state its in (it might be in 'reinstall')11:40
NoxionShould I make a partition and try from the HDD instead?11:40
DStampcan anyone help me with amsn and firefox im havin big probs with em both :(11:40
King_Of_No_Pantsi dont know, im kinda new at this linux thing11:40
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jammyflynn99what about libd11:40
NoxionI am also11:41
ryanpgPlug, purge didn't work11:41
NoxionObviously... :)11:41
looksausthey don't even need to give us flash, if they give out enough information for developers to make it work on the platform of their choice, that is enough11:41
King_Of_No_Pantssystem>Administration>Networking11:41
simonpcaplop11:41
looksausbut they refuse to11:41
patrick52222stamp11:41
King_Of_No_Pantswhat does it say in there?11:41
jammyflynn99is suse better than ubantu11:41
DStamphey pat11:41
NoxionIt sees me card11:41
MisterNjammyflynn99: no? :)11:41
NoxionIts enabled11:41
patrick52222so ya here  now11:41
King_Of_No_Pantsis it configured?11:41
DStampyeh11:41
robert2513jammyflynn99 - never used suse11:41
Noxionand I entered everything in manually11:41
NoxionBut no net still11:41
darxDoes ubuntu release the dhcp lease during the shutdown process? any clues?????11:41
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jammyflynn99didnt think it was11:42
Plugryanpg: look at the Status lien for it it in /var/lib/dpkg/status11:42
darxplease help11:42
DStampi gota be the most unlucky guy when it comes to linux11:42
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NoxionMy gateway isnt listed in the interface config file though11:42
DStamp5 installs and it still is no where near stable lol11:42
King_Of_No_Pantshmm11:42
juancahello everyone11:42
ryanpgPlug, dpkg --get-selections says it's status is "purge"11:42
NoxionEven though its listed in the Frontend11:42
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darxDoes ubuntu release the dhcp lease during the shutdown process? any clues?????11:42
King_Of_No_Pantsthats  crazyness11:42
NoxionYes11:42
bungalohello... installed ubuntu about a month ago.  worked quite nicely with my WEP set up.  then i got a new router.  WPA/WPA2 compatible.  i tried to get that working instead of WEP.  it was quite awful.  so i tried going back to wep.  no dice.  now i can't connect to my router either wirelessly or if i connect it physically to the router.  i've tried everything i can think of.  any ideas?  i'm stuck using windows again, m11:42
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NoxionI think it just might be this PC11:42
robert2513darx - i think it does11:42
Plugodd; should let you remove it then11:42
DStampanyone know why firefox mite be crashing on ubuntu 5.10 with all updates?11:42
looksausblindx, so in the way that it makes part of the net Adobe Flash only territory, some people are a bit angry at Adobe11:42
darxthanks mate11:43
jammyflynn99u need that root network tool bungalo11:43
robert2513darx: np11:43
jammyflynn99i think11:43
ryanpgPlug, in status "Status: purge ok not-installed"11:43
King_Of_No_Pantsthats weird11:43
NoxionAnway whats the easiest way to logoff and logon using the terminal11:43
mwebungalo: for wpa, use wpasupplicant, there is a wiki covering it11:43
Plugyou could try editing it to say 'purge ok installed' and try and remove it, but thats very last resort afaic11:43
NoxionWell change accounts actually11:43
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ryanpgPurge, edit /var/lib/dpkg/status directly?11:44
lamegoNoxion, su - user11:44
jammyflynn99lol i was trying to type root as my password all day not realizing i need to use SUDO11:44
mwebungalo: if you wanna use wep you might as well use it unecrypted since it's so easy to crack11:44
lz1gjdwould it help if I add that the videocard is pci express x16 and I had similar problem with Suse 10.0 x64, does any1 have an idea how to make it work right ?11:44
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patrick52222why would firefox be crashing on ubuntu 5.10 with all updates? Dstamps question11:44
Plugryanpg: back it up first, and dont blame me.  i'm pretty sure the accepted way to change things in it is with dpkg --set-selections so man dpkg first11:44
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ryanpgPlug, k, reading the man page now11:44
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jammyflynn99installing games seems to be realy tough for me11:45
bungaloexactly why i wanted to move it to WPA or WPA2.  but now i can't connect in any way shape or form.  not physically... not wirelessly, even without WEP or WPA...11:45
looksausjammyflynn99, which ones?11:45
DStampany ubuntu experts please hear my cry for help..... I have installed ubuntu for about the fifth time now. I am having problems with amsn. I got the latest version and used the de-uglify amsn guide to get it set up. on the previous installs this worked fine. Now when I start it it dsiappears after a min. Also firefox randomly crashes on some websites. And help on the gnome bar has gone to and i cant open it by right clicking11:45
mwebungalo: did you read the wpa wiki?11:45
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mwebungalo: It took some work the first time but I got mine to work11:46
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looksausDStamp, let's try to tackle this one by one11:46
patrick52222!tell DStamp firefox11:46
jammyflynn99some random ones downloaded from internet they say i need certain progs installed but i sudo apt-get intall ect -- i get cant find file11:46
jammyflynn99install11:46
Cyraxnone of my media players can play most of my dvd disks11:46
mwebungalo: it didn't seem to hidden ssid though11:46
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lamegojammyflynn99, make sure you have universe/multiverse enabled11:46
looksaus1. amsn11:46
nickrudjammyflynn99, you probably need to enable the extra repos11:46
nickrud!repos11:46
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource11:46
jammyflynn99ahh11:46
jammyflynn99tnx11:47
bungalomwe:  i was trying with wpasupplicant.  i believe i bunged something up in the process which might have been why wpa wasn't working... because NOTHING was working.  i don't know.  now i can't get anything up to even test anything.11:47
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looksausI suppose you know very well why you need that instead of gaim?11:47
mwebungalo: ok11:47
DStamplooksaus if u can help that would be great11:47
CyraxHow do you enable Univers/multi unverse?11:47
looksausDStamp, I'm trying to11:47
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lamegoCyrax, read the text from ubotu11:47
mwebungalo: well I'd try to make it work unencrypted first. to do that use iwlist and friends, did you do that?11:47
nickrud!easysources11:47
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nickrud11:47
nickrud!easysource11:47
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:48
jammyflynn99i found java the easier to install than than windows install lol11:48
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DStamplooksaus: sorry im new to all of this11:48
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nickrudCyrax, jammyflynn99 that easysource link is the easiest :)11:48
looksausDStamp, do you realise that the absolutely best supported way to connect to IM networks is gaim?11:48
jammyflynn99lol11:48
bungalomwe: friends?  haven't heard of that.  and i haven't used iwlist.  i've been using the Networking tool in Administration11:48
jammyflynn99flashplayer was no probs either11:48
toejamaanyone know how long shred will take on an 80gb harddrive?11:48
cyphaseyou know how Microsoft is getting in trouble for bundling their software with Windows?11:48
mwebungalo: that sucks if you have problems11:49
looksausit is the default IM application on Ubuntu and many other IM applications11:49
DStamplooksaus: ive tried it and it really doesnt do what i need. there are no real notifications i cant get on with the interface11:49
mwebungalo: you need the command line tools11:49
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tonyyarussocyphase: Ya, just had another court ruling go against them today or yesterday I think.11:49
cyphasedo you think linux distros are doing the same thing?11:49
jammyflynn99linux just link ftp dont they11:50
cyphaseor is it different because the programs are made by different people/groups?11:50
looksausDStamp, ok, then please don't forget to get this message across through launchpad11:50
MrRiocyphase: yes, but we didn't promise everyone we wouldn't11:50
bungaloi have also tried config'ing eth0 (my wireless) using ifconfig.  setting the essid, channel, ip address, subnet mask, etc.  nothing.11:50
lamegotoejama, take your hd write speed and do the math...11:50
looksaus(the bugs/suggestions system)11:50
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looksausnow on to amsn11:50
nickrudcyphase, no, because all the same apps are eqully available to all11:50
jammyflynn99ahh now i have a big question for u all11:50
jammyflynn99well to me it is11:50
mwebungalo: ifconfig <interface> up then iwlist <interface> scan to find your ssid. the sudo iwconfig <interface> essid <ap> && sudo dhclient <interface>11:50
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DStamplooksaus: thanks11:50
MrRiocyphase, that's how they got their market share, by promising they wouldn't build any competing software products11:50
mwebungalo: if that works you're well on the way11:50
tonyyarussocyphase: Well if nothing else, we're not paying for the bundled items.11:50
jammyflynn99how would i go about installing a bt voyager 205 modem via usb11:50
cyphaseMrRio, that's not why they're being sued11:50
cyphaseeven if they didn't promise11:50
cyphasethey'd probably be sued11:51
looksausDStamp, but do realise that less active IM projects may get even less well supported in the future...11:51
MrRiocyphase, Oh, I don't understand then.11:51
looksauswhile gaim is almost guaranteed to keep afloat11:51
toejamashred keeps printing out "i8253 count too high! resetting.."11:51
kmonSeveas: I've just read your page about IRC rules and I've found something strange. In the section "when helping" you say installing support for encripted DVDs with install-scc.sh is a bad solution, but on the page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-cd84b8e23927ccdb4bb55ffd3074687abec0cf3b It says exactly that. So,... I don't get it11:51
DStamplooksaus: that will be a major shame as when amsn works i find it is just as good as the real thing if not better11:51
jammyflynn99how would i go about installing a bt voyager 205 modem via usb11:52
mzinzI just installed KDE and I'm getting to know it, I somehow though made my icons in the file browser super tiny and they won't go back.. how do i fix???11:52
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looksausDStamp, please open a terminal (Apps -> Helper Apps(?) -> Terminal11:52
toejamais killing shred a bad thing?11:52
bungaloi use static ips... so would i just remove the dhclient <interface> and manually set the ip address, subnet mask and default gateway?11:52
nickrudkmon, I've talked with seveas about that (I put that link on the wiki :) . It's an older version of libdvdcss , but it's also the most stable location to get libdvdcss from11:52
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bungaloand thanks btw11:52
mwemzinz: view->icon size11:52
DStamplooksaus: damn something has come up and i must go... ill hopefulyl get to this later...thanks very much for your input11:52
looksausDStamp, you're welcome & bye11:53
DStampnight all11:53
kmonnickrud: I think it's the only way to get it for amd64 :)11:53
mwemzinz: then settings->save view profile to keep it how you like it11:53
jammyflynn99how would i go about installing a bt voyager 205 modem via usb any ideas anyone if not it dont matter11:53
looksaus!firefox11:53
craig442hi, i am having trouble installing the usbvision driver, can anyone help?  I am pretty new to linux.11:53
mzinzmwe: I'm not seeing view...11:54
nickrudkmon, it may very well be. I don't have 64bit11:54
jammyflynn99!usb11:54
ubotujammyflynn99: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:54
looksausjammyflynn99, analog? dsl?11:54
jammyflynn99dsl11:54
MasterWolfi get Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_file'. each time i logon and when i try to get online i get Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'11:54
jammyflynn99broadband11:54
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mwemzinz: not seing the view menu? are we talking konqueror?11:54
flohi. i installed ubuntu on my old computer (i plan to give it to my sister to use it for browsing/chatting/music)  but it's moving very slow  ( celoron 300 mhz, 32 sdram). any suggestion on a window manger that would make it more usable?11:54
looksausif you have the option, throw it away and buy an ethernet model11:54
kmonnickrud: so... the only problem is that it's outdated?11:54
mzinzmwe: ohh11:55
nickrudkmon yes.11:55
looksauswill save you a great lot of hassle, regardless of the platform (win, mac, lin) you use it with11:55
jammyflynn99300mhz i suggest overclocking11:55
looksausor sell it, of course ...11:55
jammyflynn99to 600mhz11:55
mwemzinz: I guess not :)11:55
jammyflynn99500mhz runs linux quite nice11:55
kmonnickrud: mmmm. ok. And what's the proposed solution for that? if there's any...11:55
looksausflo, you need more ram11:55
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nickrudkmon, compiling it yourself :)11:56
LosTpfft11:56
kmonnickrud: where's the source?11:56
mzinzmwe: thanks :).  It says you can have custom backgrounds... possible to make them semi-opaque?11:56
mwe300 mhz would probably be ok for fluxbox11:56
looksauswith 64 and a lot of patience, you could make it run Debian quite well, with a lightweight thing like fluxbox11:56
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mwemzinz: I haven't played with that11:56
trainstrokercan someone please hlep me11:56
floi was thinking of buying a new one for her just not right now .. so do you thing that getting another 128 ram would make it move better(considering the cpu) ?11:57
looksausI just gave a friend a PII 400 MHz with 256 Mb ram11:57
jammyflynn99any ideas on this dsl modem then guys11:57
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looksausjammyflynn99, as I said...11:57
MasterWolfcan someone help me i get "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_file'" each time i logon and when i try to get online i get "Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'"11:57
LosTHi~11:57
looksausit depends on how much your time is worth11:57
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jammyflynn99?11:57
nickrudkmon, http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/libdvdcss-1.2.9.tar.bz211:57
trainstrokercan someone tell me how to install rpm's11:57
mzinzmwe: how do i bring up force quit?11:57
jammyflynn99plenty of time11:57
mwemzinz: what's that?11:57
jammyflynn99ive dont some research but kind find mutch help11:57
lamegotrainer, you can't install rpms, you can convert them to .debs with alien11:58
mwemzinz: I just close my windows11:58
MrRioflo: try DSL, ubuntu isn't designed to be run on 300mhz, alot of services etc.11:58
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trainstrokerhow do i install alien11:58
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trainstrokerim a total nub to linux11:58
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looksausjammyflynn99, sorry, I try to help people that _need_ it11:58
lamegotrainstroker, , but you should look for native .debs for the program you are looking for11:58
looksausI'm just volunteering here11:58
mwetrainstroker: sudo apt-get install alien11:58
looksausI try to do that every few days for half an hour11:58
mzinzmwe: one of my konquerer windows won't close and is locked up11:58
trainstrokerwtf11:58
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jammyflynn99trainer download the source11:58
lamegotrainstroker, what are you trying to install ?11:58
jammyflynn99./configure  make  make install11:58
asdf25trainstroker: ya, probably shouldn't use alien if you're really new, unless there's really no .deb of what you need to install11:59
mwemzinz: oh. open a terminal and type killall -9 konqueror11:59
trainstrokerim trying to get several things done such as access my ntfs partition and listne to mp3;s on that partiotion11:59
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lamegotrainstroker, you don't need rpms for that11:59
looksaustrainstroker, if you're a total newbie, may I suggest you to stay away from alien for the first few weeks11:59
floMrRio: i'll try .. since neither using xfce or fluxbox didn't improve the situation much11:59
trainstrokerso at sourceforge i should look for the debian packages11:59
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King_Of_No_Pantswhere is ubuntu's startup script?11:59
mzinzmwe: k11:59
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mwemzinz: usually it should pop up with not responding after a while though11:59
mwemzinz: and ask if you would like to kill it11:59
looksaustrainstroker, if I were you, I would keep to ubuntu packages and learn how the system works for the first weeks12:00
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