=== My8os [i=My8os@ppp13-67.ath.forthnet.gr] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === robotgeek [i=venkat@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma is now known as toma_ [12:24] Good night everyone [12:24] kwwii: nice to talk to you [12:24] bye [12:24] nite kmon === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [12:30] Tonio_: pong? === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:33] Riddell: translation is over, but I have a problem with the "panel" module [12:33] Riddell: that's almost unstranslatable... [12:34] Riddell: and i was wondering why have those 3 modules been splitted from the "desktop" one ? [12:34] not that "panel" cannot be translated, but honnestly, "panel" is VERY generic... so not very user friendly... [12:35] raphink doesn't know how to handle this too [12:36] Tonio_: panel is kicker, the thing at the bottom of the screen [12:36] Riddell: know that, but there is also animation on the cursor there in it [12:37] I have to search the good word to describe it, but french vocabulary is a bit limited there :) [12:37] caused by clicking on a menu item in the k-menu on the panel [12:37] not the best of links but seems the best place for it still [12:38] hum... raphink any idea on the word we can use ? [12:38] not really :s [12:38] Riddell: the problem is that the "panel" french translation is more generic word in french than in english :) [12:38] "panneau" is unusable there to me [12:38] yes it's too generic [12:38] raphink: I think you follow me on that point :)= [12:38] impossible to understand [12:39] that can make sense in english, but in french........... [12:39] Tonio_: well how is Panel translated in KDE? [12:39] Riddell: the modules are in desktop and appearance in kcontrol at least [12:40] Riddell: let me search where we can find it [12:40] it is "tableau de bord" I think [12:40] right click on Konqueror icon on the panel [12:40] bottom menu item is "Panel Menu" [12:41] Riddell: that's it "tableau de bord" [12:41] there you go then :) [12:41] can make sense, at least better than "panneau" [12:41] that's not perfect, but it can do the job... [12:43] Riddell: just emailing you the french po file [12:45] 2 hours spent on that little word....... === Tonio_ hates french sometimes :) === freeflying too many have told me that french is the most beautiful language :) [12:47] freeflying: I wouldn't say beautifull, but one of the most precise and detailled language, yes [12:47] for one english word, you can use 5 to 10 in french, depending the context, the strengh etc....... [12:47] so sometime, translating a word is really hard, cause you have many possibilities, and none of them perfectly fits.... [12:48] concerning the "beauty", I prefer italian :) [12:48] Tonio_: it's also diffculty fo me [12:49] freeflying: can you imagin we have about 50 translations to "fuck" for example :) [12:49] we have so many insults and bad words in french hehe :) [12:50] Tonio_: we can speak "fuck" in chinese with about 100 words [12:50] freeflying: wow !!!!!!!!! === Tonio_ is jalous :) [12:50] haha [12:51] Tonio_: translation committed [12:51] Riddell: thanks :) [12:51] Tonio_: we have 30 province , each's speaking is quite differnt from others [12:51] freeflying: isn't "mandarin" the most spoken ? [12:52] don't know if the english is chinese translation the same word [12:52] freeflying: that is nothing - we (Slovenia) are 2 mio people and 45 different langauge dialects ;-) [12:52] Lure: that's impressive [12:53] Lure: hurg ! [12:53] Lure seems we have more tha you [12:53] freeflying: ppl for sure ;-) [12:53] there are several dialects in french too, but not that much [12:53] Lure: how many alphabets? [12:53] I would say 5 or 6, not more [12:53] Tonio_: don't forget the Breton speakers [12:54] freeflying: do all the dialects have different characters for them? [12:54] Riddell: Breton, Basque, Corse, Provencal [12:54] I think that's all :) [12:54] raphink: another one I miss ? [12:54] Riddell: some have their own , some haven't now [12:54] Riddell: good thing is that official language is kind of enforced... [12:55] Riddell: but those are not dialects, they are complete languages [12:55] not a word comming from french [12:55] I bet they must have a few words from french (or even english) [12:56] that's the funny thing about Gaelic, you get english words in the middle of a sentence [12:56] Riddell: new words like informatics, yes :) [12:56] cause they are "dead" languages [12:56] because they just use english words for stuff like "computer" [12:56] as for dialects , there may be hundreds in china [12:56] Riddell: probably - same here - lots of Italian, German, Hungian and Croatioan influence [12:56] but concerning the base, those languages are not french derivatives [12:57] raphink: come on, that discussion is for you ;) [12:57] raphink speaks about 10 languages for info :) [12:57] he is quite impressive [12:57] raphink: nice! [12:58] ok everyone, jesse wants the top 10 bugs fixed during this release [12:58] where are the top 10 listed? [12:58] Riddell: finish kdeprint and we have one for all 10 places ;-) [12:58] Riddell: i'm okay to help as much as my poor coding skills allows me ;) [12:58] crimsun: it isn't we need to make it [12:59] Tonio_: he is looking for already fixed one [12:59] Lure: who ? I don't understand :) [12:59] ahhhhhhhhh [12:59] okay [01:00] Tonio_: he would like to announce top 10 bugs fixed in Beta [01:00] jjesse want the list of big bugs that have been resolved :) [01:00] okay, that wasn't clear to me [01:00] in the time between flight6 and beta ? [01:01] Lure: I would say kaffeine dealing with kio protocols correctly [01:01] that's a big trick, since lots of people were complaining on that point [01:01] Tonio_: for sure in top-10 === Lure hopes we can get it for other apps too [01:02] Lure: shouldn't be that hard in fact, as long it is not gtk apps ;) [01:02] I think adept crashes were also on top of complaints in previous flights [01:03] and Display applet not starting [01:03] freeflying: this control space shortcut in skim really gets in the way for us emacs users :) [01:03] Lure: k3bsetup now working [01:03] Riddell: switch to vim ;-) [01:03] Riddell: you can alternate it to Shit space [01:04] Riddell: there is also Ctrl-Shift-Space for Kerry [01:04] what's happening? === marseillai_ [n=marseill@AMarseille-153-1-34-102.w86-197.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:05] in fact there hasn't been that much bugfixing in beta, but more polishing.... [01:05] raphink: jjesse wants the top10 bugs fixed in beta [01:05] Tonio_: I do feel bad about that, blame espresso mostly [01:05] ok [01:06] Riddell: that's not a problem :) we will bugfix after beta :) [01:06] we surely have to focus on bugs now [01:06] Riddell: the target isn't beta, but final release in june [01:06] we still have 2 months to bugfix [01:06] I still have lots of espresso stuff to be done [01:07] Riddell: dev of debug? [01:07] but hopefully not all my time [01:07] I wish I could bugfix more, but I'm limited on that point [01:07] raphink: less than 1.5 month [01:07] 626 assigned to kubuntu team [01:07] Lure: hmm right [01:07] raphink: fixing qt parted, and the map widget being the big ones [01:07] Lure: goes fast [01:07] I feel more comfortable in defining kde settings :) [01:07] Tonio_: and you do great at that :) [01:08] raphink: at least I'm trying :) [01:08] sure [01:08] Tonio_: lots of bugs to triage... [01:08] you got to be a specialist in KDE settings ;) [01:08] not just fix [01:08] Lure: that's true [01:08] Lure: triaging is already a good way in [01:08] many bugs just have to be triaged [01:09] since they are duplicate/already fixed/to be rejected [01:09] Lure: for the top10 : gtk_qt_engines now replaces gnomes icons by kde ones [01:09] was done about flight5 I think [01:09] Tonio_: true - this is why GNOME people complain now ;-) [01:09] flight4 maybe.... [01:10] Lure: why do they ? that's a nice feature, really :) [01:10] I think gnome people complain because startkde creates a .gtk-2 that changes their theme to gtk-qt engine [01:10] huhu [01:10] some use gnome and kde login and it makes their gnome session ugly [01:10] they don't have to install kde then :p [01:10] Tonio_: we need to look at a way to stop that happening if someone has already run gnome [01:11] ok [01:11] Riddell: that doesn't happen [01:11] Riddell: the .gtk-2 is created "when it doesn't exist" only [01:11] that means if you already have gnome and then install kde, no pb [01:11] Tonio_: I suspect gnome doesn't create that file by default [01:11] if you install gnome after kde is already installed, tou will have the issue [01:11] Riddell: exactly [01:12] Tonio_: at least I've had more than one person saying that running KDE once means gtk-qt takes over their system [01:12] Riddell: hum... makes sense yes [01:12] but there must be some other file gnome makes that we can test for [01:12] there surely is a ~/.* created by gnome by default somewhere [01:12] Riddell: I will have a loo at that this week [01:12] bug 36256 [01:12] Malone bug 36256 in gtk-qt-engine gtk2-engines-gtk-qt "gtk2-engines-gtk-qt causes GNOME-panel to crash upon startup and causes Gnome to look ugly" [Critical,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/36256 === Tonio_ is writing this to his todo list [01:13] I've never been able to recreate that crash [01:13] how about .gnome and .gnome2 ? [01:13] Riddell: I don't think this file is the problem [01:14] I better think the qt bindings are the issue no ? [01:14] Tonio_: see last post - removing this file helps [01:14] I mean, this file only defines a theme, nothing more [01:14] Lure: hum....... [01:14] Tonio_: qt bindings? [01:15] Riddell: bad translation, forget this :) [01:16] the problem is how can we make sure gtk_qt_engines applies only when the desktop in use is kde ? [01:16] except modifying the code deeply, I don't figure out how can that be configured...... [01:16] Tonio_: I don't think we can, but there must be a way to stop our .gtk2 file being created if the person has already run gnome [01:17] Riddell: yes, that's possible via startkde [01:17] Riddell: but then people will not switch to KDE if they still see gtk aps ugly (Firefox).... [01:17] Riddell: we can check if a package like ubuntu-desktop is installed for example [01:17] if the package is installed, then launching kde will not recreate that file [01:18] if it is not, then the user doesn't have gnome, and the file is created [01:18] that makes sense [01:18] Riddell: will code that tomorrow and send you a patch for startkde [01:18] when is this file read - just on login? Can we create it on login and remove immediately after? (dirty hack, I know) [01:19] Lure: yuck [01:19] if we leave it until logout it may be too late [01:19] Lure: the problem is that this file is also created by gnome when you configure your appearance settings [01:19] then launching kde would kill your gnome parameters when logging out [01:19] Tonio_: then there's also xubuntu and edubuntu [01:19] Riddell: yup [01:20] Tonio_: but we could just check for if gnome-session exists maybe [01:20] Riddell: which package to look at ? ubuntu-desktop or gnome ? [01:20] Tonio_: not sure really - people complain that GNOME tools do not change it [01:20] probably gnome is better no ? [01:20] Tonio_: yes [01:20] Tonio_: why do you not check ~/.gnome2 existance [01:20] Riddell: gnome-session ? isn't that file potentially existing even if gnome has been removed ? [01:21] maybe you have users that did not login yet in gnome [01:21] I think package installation looking is the cleanest way, just my personnal opinion [01:21] night all === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [01:21] Tonio_: don't use dpkg, too slow [01:22] check if gnome-sessions-thing exists [01:22] Riddell: whereis gnome-desktop [01:22] ;) [01:22] hmm, but then we take over xubuntu too [01:22] or gdm? [01:22] Riddell: whereis xfce, could do the job [01:22] fast and easy to use === Lure needs sleep too... nite all! [01:24] Riddell: concerning xubuntu, I can "whereis startxfce4" [01:24] would work [01:24] night Lure [01:24] Tonio_: or just check the existance of /usr/bin/startxfce4 and /usr/bin/gnome-session-thing [01:25] Riddell: better yes ;) [01:25] if one of those exist, do not copy the gtk_qt file [01:25] Riddell: you will have the patch tomorrow [01:26] groovy [01:26] ok, bed [01:26] nite Riddell [01:26] bon nuit [01:27] ;) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === |ZuZuu| [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-66-27.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.34] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@k-uptown.xs4all.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Get] === neoncode [n=neoncode@88-107-157-20.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _superstoned [n=supersto@168-234.surfsnel.dsl.internl.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@88-107-157-20.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A614CF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@222.50.182.127] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@88-107-157-20.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sredna [n=anders@kde/developer/alund] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@88-107-157-20.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gaelduval [n=gaelduva@gam14-2-82-230-24-115.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@88-107-157-20.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gaelduval [n=gaelduva@gam14-2-82-230-24-115.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:27] <_superstoned> WHY does ubuntu-desktop depend on a braille reader for the commandline?!?!? [11:27] <_superstoned> that sucks... [11:31] In the same theme: why does adept depends on libgtk2.0 (indirectly) ? [11:31] s/adept/kubuntu-desktop [11:31] _superstoned: for accessibility, is it a problem? [11:32] OdyX: scim brings it in, I plan to change it after beta [11:32] Riddell: OK... [11:32] oh noes kde depends on gtk, the world is on fire :) [11:32] oooh, libgtk2.0 on my system, SACRILEGE [11:33] mornfall: :D [11:33] mornfall: try to remove it.... [11:33] <_superstoned> riddell: its not a problem, but i don't understand why ubuntu-desktop depends on it. and further, it gets started. i also wonder if kubuntu-desktop should depend on it, too (ubuntu does, and after all it has nothing to do with a graphical desktop anyway) [11:34] OdyX: nah, i need my freeciv-client [11:34] mornfall: OK :D [11:34] OdyX: (that's about why i need gtk, no other apps) [11:35] mornfall: and I need my thoggen :D [11:35] ah, well, mplayer [11:35] mplayer .... well.. kaffeine roxxes sufficiently, huh ? [11:35] kaffeine? oh my no [11:36] mornfall: what's the matter ? [11:36] <_superstoned> btw tried gnome for some time. looks lovely (said that, yes) but is much slower in redraw, faster in startup (slightly), slower in app startup, looks better (did i say that?), has a much cleaner interface for some config things, has some config things KDE misses, and misses some things KDE has. hard do say if it's better or worse, until i discovered their best music player (quod libet) can't come close to amarok, and they do [11:36] <_superstoned> i tried to change colors - and after that, to kill myself. in other words, don't try to change ANYTHING on a gnome system, or you'll get frustrated. they know what is good for you, don't pretend to have some ideas about what YOU like, yourself. [11:36] <_superstoned> sorry :D [11:36] or kmplayer ? [11:36] OdyX: what about mplayer cli :) [11:36] gui movie players suck [11:36] cli ? [11:37] cli = command line interface [11:37] <_superstoned> try codeine, is cool [11:37] mornfall: you tried caca ? [11:37] <_superstoned> tough kaffeine got better [11:37] caca? [11:37] <_superstoned> or vlc [11:37] mplayer -vo caca [11:37] mornfall: with a video, in tty... [11:37] vlc the thing that crashes all the time? [11:38] OdyX: oh, color aa! [11:38] OdyX: i only know aalib :) [11:38] mornfall: pretty cool/geek, huh ? [11:39] that's so cool :)) [11:39] <_superstoned> mornfall: does it? haven't seen it crash, but i just started to use it recently, when i found out it was the only decent video player for windows that is acutally installable ;-) [11:39] <_superstoned> actualy [11:39] <_superstoned> wow [11:39] <_superstoned> that's hard [11:39] i don't use windows [11:39] <_superstoned> actually [11:39] <_superstoned> me neither [11:40] <_superstoned> needed it for my little brother [11:40] hmm, gotta escape this lecture methinks [11:40] laters :) [11:40] <_superstoned> he wanted to watch some movie [11:40] <_superstoned> laterz [11:45] i just ran `espresso` from kubuntu live and it cam up with a 'gtkui' mobule object not found. is there a Kde version i can try? [11:46] espresso kde-gui [11:46] I believe [11:50] hendry: yes [11:50] hendry: `kdesu espresso kde-ui` === hendry [n=hendry@222.106.128.78] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _jdong [n=jdong@d192-24-132-154.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:09] hm [12:09] Riddell: what's the fuzz about "problem child" lilo mentioned? seen it in any KDE/*Ubuntu channel? [12:09] Riddell: it asked a bunch of questions and quit on the last stage. that normal? [12:10] RE kde-ui espresso [12:10] Tm_T: never heard of it [12:10] hendry: what questions? [12:11] Riddell: me neither, just wondered [12:11] Riddell: the installation questions from espresso [12:12] hendry: so it gets to "Ready to Install" then crashes? [12:13] Riddell: yes. "Failed to open device" === raphink is fighting with cinelerra [12:17] hendry: do you have a copy of /var/log/installer/espresso? [12:17] Riddell: multitasking [12:18] Riddell: i can mail it to you? [12:18] hendry: please, jriddell@ubuntu.com [12:19] *yawn* [12:19] Riddell: get it? === \sh [n=shermann@ubuntu/member/backslash-sh] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua is now known as kiweee [12:20] "AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'set_text'" doh [12:21] yeah, thanks hendry [12:21] mornfall: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/667407 got quick answers to these? [12:24] hum, anyone noticed Kmail multiplying mails in imap account? [12:24] nope [12:25] ...annoying === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:25] <\sh> just patched knetworkmanager to not spam my desktop with "new network found" "network disappeared"..anyone interested? [12:25] \sh: sure [12:25] I'll drop Kontact/Kmail from use a while and see if it happens with some other client [12:26] <\sh> Riddell: preparing the patch ... my network connection is just a bit flacky... [12:26] <\sh> it's configurable...so you can switch it on/off as you wish :) [12:28] haha, removed duplicates using pine: " Kept 201 messages and removed 1777. " [12:28] oh well [12:34] Somebody using Ktorrent 1.2 here ? === caleb- [n=caleb@219-84-15-89-adsl-tpe.STATIC.so-net.net.tw] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:40] OdyX: I think yes [12:42] Tm_T: could you confirm (= take a look) on bug 40141 ? [12:42] Malone bug 40141 in ktorrent "Opens one thread per file even if not used" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/40141 [12:42] hm? [12:42] thread? [12:43] OdyX: whoops,sorry, KTorrent: 1.3dev [12:43] I forgot I take that too from svn [12:43] Tm_T: that's it... I don't know how to name it... I'm not "in it"... but the fact is ktorrent 1.2 reaches it maximum at 1024 files as ktorrent 1.1 could a lot more. [12:58] Riddell: looking [12:58] Riddell: what smaller screens? [12:58] Riddell: it fits 800px wide screen nicely [12:58] with reasonable font [12:58] remaining time, well, umm [12:59] it is surely useful, but sort of clutters the interface, so dunnow [01:06] Riddell: do you really think 640x480 should be supported? [01:06] no, KDE assumes 800x600 [01:06] so it's not a problem, I just needed something to reply with === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:21] kde bug 125875 [01:21] KDE bug 125875 in History Plugin "Incorrect name of contact in titlebar" [Normal,New] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125875 [01:23] Tm_T: the bot attacks, from earlier? [01:23] Hobbsee: yes [01:23] Tm_T got it. [01:23] I haven't noticed anything [01:23] Tm_T: dunno who that is, but they keep getting klined... [01:24] it's then that i'm reminded that konversation needs better scripting! [01:24] Hobbsee: yep .. [01:24] well, that we need a better lot of scripts for konversation, anyway [01:24] scripting? what's that :) [01:24] mornfall: :p [01:24] you mean like irssi, a programming language with builtin irc client? :] [01:25] OdyX: what language is the guy in #kubuntu talking in, and do you plan to tell him to go to another channel of that language? [01:25] or emacs [01:25] haha [01:25] mornfall: =) [01:25] emacs is the best example [01:25] programming language with builtin editor [01:26] Hobbsee: this is spanish and I said he'd feel better in *-es's channels [01:26] ah ok :) [01:27] OdyX: beyond it being about xgl and kubuntu, i wouldnt have a clue what's being said :P [01:27] xgl [01:27] oh my dear [01:27] Hobbsee: no worry... I have the situation under control.. :D [01:27] mornfall: hehe yeah it seems like that! [01:27] but no control on XGL.. [01:28] cool :) === Hobbsee was just curious [01:28] curiosity is a curse [01:28] heh...true === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:01] anyone can confirm this ? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/40152 [02:01] Malone bug 40152 in kdenetwork "korganizer crashes with sig 11 on creating a new event" [Normal,Unconfirmed] === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:02] raphink: I saw that one before... [02:02] ok [02:02] just found the kde report [02:03] I think it's duplicated [02:03] on malone? [02:03] I haven't seen it [02:03] Yep [02:03] raphink: why isnt that in kdepim? [02:03] oh right Hobbsee [02:03] hehe [02:03] thta should not be in kdenetwork... [02:03] bug 39419 [02:03] Malone bug 39419 in kdepim korganizer "korganizer krashes when creating event" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/39419 [02:04] there [02:04] thanks OdyXydO [02:04] marked as duplicate [02:04] thanks === OdyXydO had confirmed the 39419 [02:06] it's not ubuntu specific it seems [02:06] guys get it on bsd [02:06] upstream then? === Hobbsee works with a guy using KPPP, testing for rotten KPPP bugs... [02:06] raphink: well :-$ [02:07] raphink: I just tested now, I don't have it anymore. [02:07] really?? [02:07] nope... just had it again [02:07] haha ok ;) [02:08] did you notice that selecting a new task before creating a new event fixes it? [02:08] No [02:08] Now yes. [02:08] :) [02:09] this is a pretty bad one :s [02:10] I see :D [02:10] this bug has been around for about a month :( [02:10] time to get on #kde :) [02:10] toma_: are you there? === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:13] is there a simple fix to this? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/16269 Ie, will just uncommenting the file work, or do we need to do more? i've got a guy reproducing this now, on kde 3.5.1 [02:13] Malone bug 16269 in kdenetwork kppp "KPPP fails to connect." [Normal,Unconfirmed] [02:14] Hobbsee: seems to me the best would be to ask for this using debconf [02:14] unless there's no secondary effects in activating it by default [02:14] that's what i dont know about, which is why i asked. [02:15] hi kwwii [02:15] any luck on polyester 0.9? :) [02:16] verwilst: hi...that reminds me to reboot :-) === \sh [n=shermann@ubuntu/member/backslash-sh] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:16] brb [02:16] hi kwwii [02:17] uh ? :p [02:17] reboot for polyester? [02:17] this ain't windows man, you don't need to reboot for every setting you change ;) [02:19] raphink: i'll try to remember to ask Riddell about it... [02:19] Hobbsee: ok [02:20] verwilst: do you know where I can find a ppc package for polyester? [02:21] ppc? [02:21] i don't even know where to find an x86 one :) [02:21] http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/27968-1.jpg [02:21] hm hm hm [02:21] hehe, I have an x86 deb [02:21] kwwii: do you want me to build it? [02:22] raphink: guess I can build it too :-) === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:22] <\sh> oh guys, I just read the CC meeting logs from yesterday === kwwii was being lazy [02:22] 0.9 eh? [02:22] kwwii: I guess so [02:22] kde-style-polyester is in universe [02:22] yes [02:22] but an ooooooold [02:22] version [02:23] Riddell: do you have some time on you? i've got some feedback on one of the kppp bugs... [02:24] no time sorry [02:24] Riddell: ping me when you have some time? [02:24] ok [02:24] thanks :) === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@host211-124.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:26] <\sh> what I have to do with kubuntu.de, i just posted the letter of the kubuntu.de team [02:26] I \sh [02:26] hi [02:27] verwilst: while I like the 3d effets on the widgets it does not really fit well with the buttons I made for the window deco [02:28] <\sh> hey raphink [02:30] verwilst: whereas lipstick is really simple [02:32] but ugly :$ [02:32]