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| chillywilly | how stable is dapper? | 01:38 |
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| Kozuch | pretty good i just upgraded from breezy (i had to configure x server manually though) | 01:42 |
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| LaserJock | grrr :( | 02:06 |
| Kyral | whats wrong LJ? | 02:06 |
| LaserJock | well, I wanted to play a game or something to relax. Of course I can't find anything much that will play on this stupid intel iMac | 02:12 |
| crimsun | hello? nethack? | 02:16 |
| crimsun | oh wait, how about the "close LP bugs" game? :) | 02:17 |
| Unfrgiven | hi all | 02:17 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: good point | 02:18 |
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| crimsun | seriously, though, I'd be surprised if at least the ascii ones weren't playable | 02:18 |
| LaserJock | ahh, sweet tuxracer works | 02:19 |
| LaserJock | I was really hoping America's Army or Enemy Territory would work | 02:20 |
| lifeless | LaserJock: freeciv | 02:20 |
| Yagisan | LaserJock: Doom ;) | 02:21 |
| Yagisan | LaserJock: runs on everything from ipods to mainframes | 02:21 |
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| LaserJock | lifeless: yeah, that might be nice. never played it before though | 02:24 |
| LaserJock | Yagisan: maybe | 02:25 |
| Unfrgiven | LaserJock: why wont America's Army or ET work on an intel imac? | 02:25 |
| Toadstool | hey LaserJock, looking for a game? :) | 02:26 |
| LaserJock | Unfrgiven: because it needs a x86 version for OSX | 02:26 |
| LaserJock | Toadstool: yeah, for an intel mac | 02:26 |
| Toadstool | angband :D | 02:26 |
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| Toadstool | g'night everybody | 02:41 |
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| bddebian | Sorry gang, what did I miss? Can you all start over? :-) | 02:57 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: well, I was looking for games for my intel iMac ;-) | 02:58 |
| LaserJock | so we are staying very on topic :p | 02:59 |
| freeflying | LaserJock: how about you intel iMac? :) | 02:59 |
| Yagisan | of course. You are intending to put Ubuntu on that mac right LaserJock ? | 03:00 |
| ajmitch | afternoon | 03:00 |
| LaserJock | yes, as soon as I can (hopefully early Dapper+1) | 03:00 |
| bddebian | Heya ajmitch | 03:00 |
| LaserJock | hi ajmitch | 03:00 |
| crimsun | no, he's going to give it to me with the great BdDebianIsAGod jedi mind trick that I'm using | 03:00 |
| === bddebian still wonders why crimsun hates him | ||
| === LaserJock can't resist, must .. give .. to .. crimsun | ||
| LaserJock | right now my main bugs are with python related stuff (matplotlib and wxpython) | 03:01 |
| Yagisan | LaserJock: no, must give to me. | 03:01 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: why do you think crimsun hates you? | 03:02 |
| LaserJock | because he thinks everybody hates him | 03:02 |
| ajmitch | right | 03:02 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: ya know, my wife has a Masters in Counseling | 03:02 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: might be a good idea - get her to stop him saying he's stupid | 03:02 |
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| ajmitch | hello Hobbsee | 03:03 |
| Hobbsee | hi ajmitch | 03:03 |
| === Hobbsee tries to make her internet work properly | ||
| ajmitch | how are you? | 03:04 |
| ajmitch | you have your own internet? :) | 03:04 |
| Hobbsee | no...lol | 03:04 |
| Hobbsee | i'm good, i booked in my car to be fixed... | 03:04 |
| === Yagisan really should resist telling the trolls in u-d to fuck off. But I can't help it while sick. | ||
| ajmitch | how damaged was it? | 03:04 |
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| Yagisan | Hobbsee: you broke your car? | 03:06 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: no, some woman decided to reverse into me while i was stationary, down a one way street. | 03:06 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: about $500 damage on mine, more on hers... | 03:07 |
| bddebian | Damn women drivers | 03:07 |
| === bddebian hides :-) | ||
| Hobbsee | haha @ bddebian | 03:07 |
| === Hobbsee thwacks bddebian | ||
| ajmitch | bddebian: run now while you still have the chance | 03:08 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: typical. No one looks where they go anymore | 03:09 |
| Hobbsee | too late...i've got my lovely large baseball bat here... | 03:09 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: so it seems. and since when was reversing up a one way street legal anyway??? | 03:09 |
| Hobbsee | yes, the nose of the car is pointing in the correct direction, but you're STILL GOING THE WRONG WAY!!! | 03:10 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: it's not, but they give any dickhead a license now. | 03:10 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 03:10 |
| === Yagisan should actually one day get around to getting a license | ||
| Hobbsee | i'm the p-plater - surely i should be at fault? :P | 03:10 |
| Hobbsee | the woman who hit me would have been in her 40's or 50's | 03:10 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: it's gotten harder, with the driving test | 03:10 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: really ? admittedly the last time I drove a car was up the m4 with the coppers behind me the whole way, some 7 years ago, but it shouldn't be too hard. | 03:12 |
| Hobbsee | ouch... | 03:12 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: yeah...they can get pretty picky - i was lucky, getting thru first time :D | 03:12 |
| ajmitch | Yagisan: what were you being chased for? :) | 03:12 |
| === Hobbsee glares in the direction of cops....hate them driving around me! | ||
| Yagisan | ajmitch: no license. | 03:13 |
| ajmitch | niec | 03:13 |
| ajmitch | and you got out of jail ok? :) | 03:14 |
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| bddebian | zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuul | 03:15 |
| Unfrgiven | wow both Hobbsee and Yagisan are aussies... Hobbsee you're from Sydney too? | 03:15 |
| Hobbsee | Unfrgiven: yes | 03:15 |
| Yagisan | I pulled into the University of Western Sydney, left the card in the parking lot, mingled in with the students, and left via the student shuttle bus 8-) | 03:15 |
| Yagisan | s/card/car | 03:15 |
| Hobbsee | hehe! | 03:15 |
| Unfrgiven | Yagisan: hahaha! thats gold | 03:15 |
| ajmitch | Unfrgiven: yes, they're taking over | 03:15 |
| ajmitch | Yagisan: well done ;) | 03:16 |
| Unfrgiven | ajmitch: you mean we're taking over... all from sydney, thats cool! | 03:16 |
| === Hobbsee pokes StevenK with a big long stick | ||
| === ajmitch tries to remember who else from here is from sydney - lifeless & stevenk are the only others I know of | ||
| Hobbsee | Unfrgiven: you're a sydney-sider too? | 03:16 |
| Unfrgiven | Hobbsee: Yagisan: where do you work? | 03:16 |
| Unfrgiven | Hobbsee: sure am! | 03:16 |
| Hobbsee | Unfrgiven: bilo. | 03:16 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: Unfrgiven even turned up at UDU | 03:16 |
| Hobbsee | woo! | 03:16 |
| Hobbsee | ah...i wasnt at that... | 03:17 |
| ajmitch | as did Yagisan | 03:17 |
| Unfrgiven | i lived across the road from UDU!!! | 03:17 |
| Unfrgiven | literally across the road | 03:17 |
| Yagisan | Unfrgiven: self-employed http://eyagi.bpa.nu/eyagi | 03:17 |
| ajmitch | Unfrgiven: I lived across the ditch | 03:17 |
| Unfrgiven | ajmitch: :) | 03:17 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 03:17 |
| === Hobbsee reminds herself to go to work today | ||
| Yagisan | Unfrgiven: I probably met you, and don't remember your name or face. | 03:17 |
| ajmitch | Yagisan: we can pull up a photo, I'm sure his face is online somewhere | 03:18 |
| Hobbsee | hehe! | 03:18 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, there are probably pictures of all of you around... | 03:18 |
| Hobbsee | on launchpad maybe? | 03:18 |
| ajmitch | certainly | 03:18 |
| ajmitch | probably not on launchpad | 03:18 |
| === Hobbsee has a few pictures, but they are well hidden! | ||
| ajmitch | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder | 03:18 |
| ajmitch | lots of photo links | 03:18 |
| Yagisan | I couldn't find a picture of me, but the is a bloke that looks rather like me | 03:18 |
| Yagisan | s/the/their | 03:18 |
| Yagisan | bugger it. can't spell today | 03:19 |
| === Hobbsee looks thru the pictures | ||
| ajmitch | http://www.netsplit.com/events/2005/ubuntu-down-under/ubuntu-down-under-027.html | 03:20 |
| ajmitch | friendly elmo | 03:20 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:21 |
| === Hobbsee is jealous now! | ||
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| ajmitch | heh | 03:22 |
| Hobbsee | hey there is more than one woman there! | 03:23 |
| ajmitch | of course | 03:23 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: yeah. they were mean. They only gave me 1 t-shirt :( | 03:23 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:23 |
| Yagisan | only one. I mean, what do I wear while I was the first ? | 03:24 |
| Yagisan | s/was/wash | 03:24 |
| Hobbsee | you know what's weird? ogr*a looks rather like a guy at my work... | 03:24 |
| ajmitch | Yagisan: I picked up another one in montreal | 03:25 |
| === tritium needs an ubuntu t-shirt | ||
| ajmitch | so at least I can alternate between them each week :) | 03:26 |
| Hobbsee | hee | 03:26 |
| === Hobbsee wouldnt fit into one very well :P | ||
| Unfrgiven | sorry, got a phone call. im sure i made it in the background at one photo | 03:26 |
| ajmitch | aha | 03:27 |
| ajmitch | Unfrgiven: http://www.flickr.com/photos/whiprush/13477774/ | 03:27 |
| Hobbsee | heh, we should have a new kubuntu logo of this - http://jriddell.org/photos/2005-04-24-sydney-possum.jpg :D | 03:27 |
| ajmitch | yay, demonic possum | 03:28 |
| Unfrgiven | ajmitch: yeah you can't really make me out there... wasnt there one big group photo somewhere? | 03:28 |
| ajmitch | Unfrgiven: there was | 03:28 |
| === ajmitch needs to through gnome-terminal through a window | ||
| Unfrgiven | http://image32.webshots.com/33/6/33/76/338863376AsRyZe_fs.jpg | 03:28 |
| ajmitch | hitting the irssi+screen bug | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: and you are which one, in that? | 03:28 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: on the right | 03:28 |
| Hobbsee | ah ok | 03:28 |
| Yagisan | I took a bunch of guys on a short trip through kings cross at night. That was fun. Pity I don't see any photos | 03:29 |
| Unfrgiven | Yagisan: were you at UDU as well? | 03:29 |
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| LaserJock | I also found http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005/img_0257 | 03:29 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: you *wanted* photos from that??? Is there anything good that actually happens in the cross? | 03:29 |
| Yagisan | Unfrgiven: yeah. I was conspicuous. i was the only guy there *without* a laptop | 03:29 |
| bddebian | heh | 03:30 |
| tritium | hey there bddebian | 03:30 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: thanks for finding that bad photo | 03:30 |
| Unfrgiven | Yagisan: i was there without a laptop too! my dell had died two wks before UDU! :( | 03:30 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: you are most welcome ;-) | 03:30 |
| Unfrgiven | Yagisan: which sucked because it meant that i kept going home to my desktop :) | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | ah well, i'll show mine as well then... http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/9838/hobbseecar10ii.jpg | 03:30 |
| Hobbsee | hehe poor Unfrgiven | 03:31 |
| bddebian | Heya tritium | 03:31 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: the pre-crash shot? | 03:31 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: is that the car that got ran into? | 03:31 |
| LaserJock | hi tritium | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: yes, that was taken on my birhtday last year... | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: yes it is | 03:31 |
| tritium | Hi there LaserJock | 03:31 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: I said, through - I took them cross the park, and down pitt street, so pitti could get a photo at martin & pitt sts, before going down to the opera house | 03:31 |
| ajmitch | blanked out numberplates & all :) | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: ah ok...lol | 03:32 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt think that staying terribly long in kings cross would leave you guys with a terribly good location :P | ||
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: the car was a birthday present? :) | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | er, reputation :P | 03:32 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: I blame sabdfl | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: no it wasnt, but i got my licence that day... | 03:32 |
| ajmitch | he seems to pick such locations | 03:33 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 03:33 |
| Unfrgiven | Hobbsee: RTA gave u a license for your bday? ;) | 03:33 |
| Hobbsee | Unfrgiven: yeah...i took the test on that day, and passed | 03:33 |
| === Hobbsee had wanted solo driving around 6months before that! | ||
| ajmitch | well done :) | 03:33 |
| bddebian | Ack, WTF happened to my Bugs in Universe url? | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | thankyou :) | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: i ate it...i was hungry | 03:34 |
| crimsun | bddebian: you don't have any bugs, remember? | 03:34 |
| bddebian | Well I hope it was good at least :-) | 03:34 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: so at what age can you get a license in .au? | 03:34 |
| bddebian | crimsun: I don't? | 03:34 |
| crimsun | bddebian: of course not, deities can't | 03:34 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: I thought you fixed them all | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: learners (with another driver in the car) at 16, provisional at 17, full licence at 19... | 03:34 |
| LaserJock | blink of an eye, "Thus spake bddebian" | 03:35 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: you look like a twig in that picture! | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: hehe! do i need to show my other one then? | 03:35 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: why not ? | 03:35 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: 19? man, that is old | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/4675/formal32zv.jpg | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: yeah, rather | 03:35 |
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| Hobbsee | Yagisan: that pic, the lighting is wrong - but it does more or less show how thin i am | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | well, it would better if i hadnt had my arms folded... | 03:36 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: jeeze, I was married at 19 | 03:36 |
| bddebian | Why do you guys tease me, knowing I'm not very bright? :'-( | 03:36 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: you do eat right ? you don't just look at the food and go "I'm full" ? | 03:37 |
| LaserJock | Yagisan: lol | 03:37 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: because you prove the contrary | 03:37 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: now that's scary... | 03:37 |
| Yagisan | I was married at 20 | 03:37 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: sorta...most of the time...i'm a little hypoglycaemic, so i kinda have to... | 03:37 |
| === bddebian feels old as usual | ||
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: thin doesn't begin to describe that photo :) | 03:37 |
| Yagisan | actually, that was the earliest age I could marry in Japan | 03:37 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: and I was almost in grad school | 03:37 |
| Hobbsee | work does get in the way though | 03:37 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: lol! | 03:37 |
| Unfrgiven | Yagisan: wow thats young! | 03:38 |
| Unfrgiven | Yagisan: how old are you now? | 03:38 |
| Yagisan | Unfrgiven: 24 | 03:38 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: No, I think crimsun likes to chastise me | 03:38 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: that's my job | 03:38 |
| bddebian | Ah | 03:39 |
| Yagisan | Unfrgiven: 7 years with the same woman. almost time for a celebrity style divorce | 03:39 |
| ajmitch | that way you can just put me on /ignore & not have to worry | 03:39 |
| Unfrgiven | Yagisan: haha. you're just missing the celebrity part ;) | 03:39 |
| bddebian | So what's up with the search. Now searching bugs in Ubuntu for Universe I get 10 | 03:39 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: it's borked again? | 03:40 |
| LaserJock | yeah, the shouldn't be filed against "ubuntu" | 03:40 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: I would never put you on ignore honey | 03:40 |
| Yagisan | shit. I think I found a picture of me at UDU | 03:40 |
| ajmitch | Yagisan: where? | 03:40 |
| Unfrgiven | Yagisan: do share | 03:41 |
| Yagisan | http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005/img_0311 | 03:41 |
| Yagisan | that unshaven guy with the had on backwards looks like me | 03:41 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: I find 1471 universe bugs | 03:41 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: URL? | 03:41 |
| Unfrgiven | Yagisan: with the brown shirt? | 03:41 |
| ajmitch | Yagisan: that's bradb | 03:41 |
| Unfrgiven | ajmitch: thats what i was gonna say | 03:42 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-priority%2C-severity&field.status%3Alist=Unconfirmed&field.status%3Alist=Needs+Info&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.owner=&field.component=3&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_no_pac | 03:42 |
| ajmitch | don't you love launchpad URLs? | 03:42 |
| Unfrgiven | ajmitch: woah! | 03:42 |
| Yagisan | I need tho scan a pic of myself | 03:42 |
| bddebian | No :-) | 03:42 |
| Yagisan | I'm freaked out | 03:42 |
| ajmitch | that was the result of going to distros/ubuntu/+bugs, then advanced search | 03:42 |
| ajmitch | tick universe, hit search | 03:42 |
| Yagisan | there are people that look like me =-O | 03:42 |
| ajmitch | Yagisan: only from the side | 03:42 |
| LaserJock | Yagisan: maybe they need retinal scans at the dev conferences so they can determine who is who ;-) | 03:43 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: tinyurl.com? :P | 03:44 |
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| Hobbsee | well at least i wouldnt be hard to find :P | 03:44 |
| Hobbsee | if i were there | 03:45 |
| ajmitch | I think I've got a few UDU photos | 03:45 |
| ajmitch | none from UBZ, with the camera+laptop going AWOL | 03:46 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: you never know, there might be dozens of skinny girls there ;-) | 03:46 |
| Yagisan | I'll hunt up and scan a few pics of me after lunch | 03:46 |
| Unfrgiven | alrighty all, ive gotta go... its time for ultimate frisbee! | 03:46 |
| ajmitch | have fun :) | 03:46 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: girls + ubuntu = a fairly rare combination | 03:46 |
| Hobbsee | have fun Unfrgiven! | 03:46 |
| ajmitch | you mean girls+ubuntu+involved in development | 03:46 |
| ajmitch | since we seem to scare away most of them | 03:47 |
| LaserJock | what US? | 03:47 |
| LaserJock | no way | 03:47 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: ah yes, of course | 03:47 |
| Yagisan | LaserJock: with what 100 of us trying to hit on the same girl, no, they don't last long | 03:48 |
| Hobbsee | LOL! | 03:48 |
| bddebian | heh | 03:48 |
| LaserJock | well, as long as it isn't tooo obvious ;-) | 03:48 |
| ajmitch | Yagisan: and that's even with quite a few of them being married.. | 03:48 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: hey, according to my wife, I only hit on the slanty chicks | 03:49 |
| ajmitch | haha | 03:49 |
| Hobbsee | lol | 03:49 |
| Hobbsee | good thing i've developed a thick skin :D | 03:49 |
| ajmitch | heh | 03:50 |
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| LaserJock | Hobbsee: do you really get hit on that much? I hope -motu is above that sort of behaviour :-) | 03:51 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: no, she gets jumped on here more than hit on | 03:51 |
| LaserJock | ah yes, StevenK and his acrobatics ;-) | 03:51 |
| Yagisan | my wife isn't happy when I'm in Japan, at Tokyo Disney, watching the parade is like watching some soft-porn movie. :-D | 03:52 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: nah, not here. there are a couple of times where i'm a bit...hmmm...starting to think "okay, leave me alone", but i dont think that's really from you guys. At work it's far more common | 03:52 |
| Hobbsee | hehe @ the jumping on | 03:52 |
| Hobbsee | it's okay when i can laugh at it, and enjoy it - but as soon as it starts to make me uncomfortable or whatever, then...well that's when it should stop lol | 03:53 |
| === Hobbsee can usually laugh and enjoy it | ||
| ajmitch | as long as people get the hint to stop :) | 03:55 |
| Hobbsee | heh yeah...they usually do... | 03:55 |
| Hobbsee | or i sign out, either way | 03:55 |
| bddebian | There sure have been a lot of "In Progress" bugs that have been in progress for a while :-) | 03:55 |
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| bddebian | Hey jaldhar | 03:56 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: of course, we're lazy | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: yeah, well it isn't so easy for some of us mere mortals | 03:57 |
| Yagisan | here we are. This is an older picture of me (after a shave) http://eyagi.bpa.nu/~jamie/uf/Yagisan.jpg | 03:57 |
| jaldhar | bddebian: hello again | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | btw, I just fired up America's Army on the macintel. It's very slow, but it works. | 03:58 |
| ajmitch | Yagisan: haha, nice pic there :) | 03:58 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: hehe! | 03:58 |
| bddebian | There you guys go again | 03:59 |
| Yagisan | that was when my parents in law visited last year. My little girl is much bigger now | 03:59 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: don't worry, I don't plan to worship you ;) | 04:00 |
| bddebian | I had no doubts about that | 04:00 |
| ajmitch | haha | 04:00 |
| Yagisan | here we are. last pic. me when I was young and handsome. http://eyagi.bpa.nu/~jamie/uf/yagi_and_yama.jpg | 04:03 |
| Yagisan | I look so old now | 04:04 |
| Hobbsee | pretty :) | 04:07 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: yeah she is, but she's also blind. I mean, she picked me, so she obviously can't see well | 04:09 |
| Hobbsee | really? | 04:09 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: is your daughter blind as well then? | 04:09 |
| Hobbsee | or did she miss out on that? | 04:09 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: too literal! | 04:09 |
| ajmitch | haha | 04:11 |
| === Yagisan wonders if Hobsee fancies him | ||
| ubuntuology | * Yagisan wonders if Hobsee fancies him | 04:11 |
| Yagisan | cool | 04:11 |
| ubuntuology | sorry | 04:11 |
| ubuntuology | didn't mean to type that | 04:12 |
| Yagisan | damm, I was hoping for more echos | 04:12 |
| ajmitch | I think we're all just watching you dig the hole | 04:13 |
| Hobbsee | what???? | 04:13 |
| === Hobbsee kicks Yagisan off the face of the planet | ||
| ajmitch | also managing that rare skill of getting both feet in the mouth | 04:13 |
| Hobbsee | and if you use tab completion, you dont get people's nick wrong... | 04:13 |
| Yagisan | I would but I can't type well with one hand on keyboard and one hand holding kid | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: it seems so | 04:14 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: rare skill ? my friend, I have master the art of sticking my feet into my mouth, often up to the knee or higher | 04:14 |
| ajmitch | Yagisan: quite impressive | 04:15 |
| ubuntuology | is this how the MOTU irc chat usually is? | 04:15 |
| Yagisan | after that kick, my back feels much better, thanks Hobbsee | 04:15 |
| ajmitch | ubuntuology: not usually | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | ubuntuology: ah...not usually... | 04:15 |
| bddebian | Usually no one says anything :-) | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:15 |
| ajmitch | we do often talk about development as well :) | 04:15 |
| Hobbsee | oh yes...occasionally.. | 04:15 |
| ubuntuology | lol | 04:16 |
| Yagisan | ubuntuology: no, but we do switch to dev work to. It's our social room and work room, | 04:16 |
| === bddebian assigns all zope bugs to ajmitch | ||
| ubuntuology | cool, I was reading the debian package guidelines and thought I'd watch conversations on IRC. I'm pretty new to ubuntu not the new to linux though. | 04:17 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: thanks | 04:17 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: I'll probably end up with them anyway, those that are in universe | 04:17 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Anytime buddy :-) | 04:17 |
| Yagisan | time to feed my little one. she's trying to help herself to the food. | 04:18 |
| ajmitch | just waiting for beta freeze to end, and the syncs that doko requested to go through | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: when's the beta out? | 04:18 |
| ajmitch | april 20 | 04:18 |
| Yagisan | biab. | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | all i know about is the kubuntu meeting next friday, which is after the beta | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: US april 20, i take it? | 04:19 |
| === Hobbsee prepares to have her inbox flooded again then | ||
| ajmitch | I guess so | 04:20 |
| ajmitch | or maybe london time | 04:21 |
| === Hobbsee nods | ||
| ajmitch | depends on what issues come up | 04:21 |
| ajmitch | mdz is apparantly in london at the moment | 04:21 |
| Hobbsee | fair enough | 04:22 |
| ajmitch | so hopefully universe is in reasonable shape | 04:22 |
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| VoX | there seems to be a problem with gdesklets and seahorse under dapper on amd64 | 04:25 |
| VoX | during the last dist-upgrade, gdesklets was upgraded, but the upgrade failed when trying to overwrite /usr/share/mime/mime.cache, which is also in package seahorse. | 04:27 |
| VoX | when seahorse was removed, the upgrade finished without error. | 04:27 |
| VoX | when trying to re-install seahorse, the same problem arrose | 04:27 |
| ajmitch | VoX: have you filed bugs for these? | 04:31 |
| ajmitch | or checked for existing bugs in these packages | 04:32 |
| VoX | there's a bug listed for i386, but not a64 | 04:36 |
| ajmitch | it'll be the same on all architectures, most bugs aren't arch-specific | 04:36 |
| VoX | righto | 04:36 |
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| chillywilly | are there any packages for madwifi-ng drivers in dapper? | 05:11 |
| ajmitch | talk to Unfrgiven | 05:11 |
| ajmitch | he's been working on some | 05:11 |
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| chillywilly | attempting to build them but it complains about /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build dir missing | 05:13 |
| ajmitch | and you have the appropriate headers installed? | 05:13 |
| chillywilly | prolly not ;) | 05:14 |
| ajmitch | then install them.. | 05:14 |
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| chillywilly | ya think :)? | 05:14 |
| LaserJock | ok guys (and gal) I've got a pic on my LP page if anybody is interested (I don't know why you would but...) : https://launchpad.net/people/mantha | 05:14 |
| chillywilly | frellin laptop needs wireless again... | 05:15 |
| ajmitch | today seems to be a day for photos | 05:15 |
| LaserJock | sure | 05:16 |
| chillywilly | physical chemistry eh? | 05:16 |
| jmg | gah | 05:16 |
| ajmitch | jmg: problems? | 05:16 |
| jmg | how do i attach a patch to a bug in malone? | 05:17 |
| chillywilly | I suppose I'll be good and leave that one alone ;) | 05:17 |
| ajmitch | jmg: you have to file the bug first, then add attachment | 05:17 |
| jmg | ajmitch: it only has "add comment" | 05:17 |
| ajmitch | I think add attachment is on the left this week | 05:17 |
| LaserJock | chillywilly: heck yeah! chemistry rulz ;-) | 05:17 |
| chillywilly | let's see if network manager can find my wireless | 05:18 |
| ajmitch | in the portlet that starts with 'overview' | 05:18 |
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| jmg | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kernel-package/+bug/40088 | 05:21 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 40088 in kernel-package "[PATCH] Support i386 Xen subarch" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 05:21 |
| jmg | found it :) | 05:21 |
| ajmitch | great | 05:21 |
| jmg | now to build xen 3.0.2 :) | 05:21 |
| Kyral | Xen huh | 05:24 |
| Kyral | wha? | 05:24 |
| jmg | Kyral go back to sleep sorry :) | 05:25 |
| Kyral | What about Xen? :D | 05:25 |
| Kyral | *twitch* | 05:25 |
| === Kyral smacks jmg | ||
| jmg | Kyral read the bug report | 05:25 |
| chillywilly | and now the network manager doesn't show up in the notfication thingy at all... | 05:25 |
| Kyral | You cannot use Xen with the 2.6.16 Kernels | 05:26 |
| Kyral | hell IIRC you can only use it with the 2.6.11 kernel | 05:26 |
| === jmg smacks Kyral | ||
| jmg | get with the program | 05:26 |
| Kyral | What> | 05:26 |
| jmg | xen 3.0.2 is a patch to 2.6.12 | 05:26 |
| jmg | er | 05:27 |
| jmg | 2.6.16* | 05:27 |
| Kyral | okay | 05:27 |
| Kyral | didn't know that lol | 05:27 |
| Kyral | my server is still running Xen 2 :P | 05:27 |
| ajmitch | jmg: thanks for doing that, I was tempted to do that smacking myself :) | 05:27 |
| === Kyral falls down | ||
| Kyral | So unloved..... | 05:27 |
| LaserJock | Kyral seems to have the bddebian complex :-) | 05:27 |
| Kyral | huh? | 05:27 |
| === LaserJock smacks Kyral, jeeze pay attention ;-) | ||
| LaserJock | Kyral: does that Xen stuff work pretty well? | 05:29 |
| Kyral | LaserJock, yanno my domain? | 05:29 |
| Kyral | Azuredreams.us? | 05:29 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 05:29 |
| Kyral | completely powered by Xen | 05:29 |
| === bddebian hugs Kyral :-) | ||
| jmg | LaserJock: http://thoughtcrime.org.nz/~cartel/ubuntu/etch-on-dapper-.jpg | 05:30 |
| Kyral | Actually its Etch on Breezy lol | 05:30 |
| jmg | Kyral you fool, its dapper | 05:30 |
| Kyral | not mine! | 05:30 |
| Kyral | Would YOU use Dapper for a server right now?! | 05:30 |
| jmg | Im not talking about yours | 05:30 |
| jmg | I wouldnt use ubuntu for a server right now :-) | 05:31 |
| Kyral | I didn't have a Debian install disc on me :P | 05:31 |
| LaserJock | I'm going to make a BetaRlease server ;-) | 05:31 |
| Kyral | Breezy is the Hypervisor | 05:31 |
| Kyral | the domains themselves are Debian | 05:31 |
| jmg | That's stupid :) | 05:31 |
| === chillywilly hugs bddebian | ||
| bddebian | :-) | 05:32 |
| jmg | LaserJock: im going to make xenubuntu livedvd :) | 05:32 |
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| LaserJock | so can you run an OS from Ubuntu with it? | 05:32 |
| LaserJock | any I mean | 05:32 |
| Kyral | not XP | 05:32 |
| Kyral | nor OSX | 05:32 |
| Kyral | the kernel of the OS itself has to be patched | 05:32 |
| chillywilly | blarg... | 05:32 |
| jmg | boot the casper livecd images of the other ubuntus in xen | 05:33 |
| Kyral | the Guest Domain | 05:33 |
| chillywilly | what happened to the network manager applet... | 05:33 |
| jmg | Kyral not if you use vmx | 05:33 |
| Kyral | vmx? | 05:33 |
| jmg | intel virtualisation crap | 05:33 |
| Kyral | is that that built in virtualization stuff the new Intels have? | 05:33 |
| jmg | yes | 05:33 |
| Kyral | yah | 05:33 |
| Kyral | dude | 05:34 |
| Kyral | I'm shit poor | 05:34 |
| jmg | use qemu | 05:34 |
| LaserJock | I've played a bit with qemu on my macintel but so far it is just emulation and pretty slow | 05:34 |
| Kyral | but then you still need a Linux XenGuest to run it one | 05:34 |
| jmg | I run qemu inside xen | 05:34 |
| jmg | and xen inside qemu inside xen | 05:34 |
| jmg | :-) | 05:35 |
| LaserJock | yikes | 05:35 |
| Kyral | That would get horrible I think | 05:35 |
| jmg | laserJock: best way to test xen-unstable | 05:35 |
| Kyral | even with KQemu | 05:35 |
| jmg | Kyral: its pretty bad | 05:35 |
| jmg | Kyral: but better than rebooting to a crash | 05:35 |
| LaserJock | I think I'm just going to have to wait until Dapper+1 or something before I get Ubuntu on this thing :( | 05:35 |
| LaserJock | right now my Ubuntu box is in pieces, I'm going to merge 2 computers into one and then I'll put Dapper Beta Release on it as a server | 05:38 |
| chillywilly | what's the --sm-disable arg mean for an applet? | 05:39 |
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| Kyral | whoops | 05:40 |
| ajmitch | chillywilly: disable session-management, I imagine | 05:40 |
| chillywilly | ok | 05:41 |
| chillywilly | the man page tells you where to look to get it to show up in the notification area but the README it talks about does not exist... | 05:41 |
| === ajmitch never worried about it | ||
| ajmitch | it just worked for me :) | 05:42 |
| chillywilly | well it's running in the background but it's not there | 05:44 |
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| chillywilly | hmmm...whatis my passphrase... | 05:53 |
| chillywilly | :))) | 05:53 |
| chillywilly | looks like it is working | 05:53 |
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| chillywilly | bah... | 06:08 |
| chillywilly | running wpa_supplicant by hand and then bringing the interface up /etc/network/interfaces worked fine | 06:12 |
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| ajmitch | Yagisan: don't worry, hobbsee seems to have gone anyway :) | 06:14 |
| Yagisan | pity, I was hoping you could lend me a shovel | 06:14 |
| ajmitch | oh no, I was happy to let you dig all by yourself | 06:14 |
| ajmitch | you were doing a superb job | 06:14 |
| Yagisan | not really. My form is down this week | 06:15 |
| Yagisan | normally I get a response much quicker, but it must be the cold I've caught | 06:15 |
| ajmitch | hopefully you haven't scared her off for good | 06:15 |
| Yagisan | nah | 06:16 |
| Yagisan | she'll be back. | 06:16 |
| ajmitch | no doubt | 06:16 |
| ajmitch | time for me to wander off back to the flat & waste time there instead of here | 06:18 |
| Yagisan | LaserJock looks rather purple in his photo | 06:18 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch @ work ? | 06:18 |
| ajmitch | at uni, in the CS lab wasting time :) | 06:18 |
| ajmitch | I was meant to be working today but still don't have access to the boxes | 06:18 |
| LaserJock | Yagisan: purple, hmmm | 06:18 |
| ajmitch | tomorrow, we hope.. | 06:18 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: I'm waiting to see if my application to join upstream for my beloved deng is accepted | 06:19 |
| ajmitch | good luck | 06:19 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: I'm the last linux user left to care for it, | 06:19 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: so I spent last night actually getting it to build again | 06:20 |
| ajmitch | heh | 06:20 |
| ajmitch | anyway, I'll be back later | 06:21 |
| Yagisan | no worries, catch you later ajmitch | 06:21 |
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| chillywilly | that frellin applet doesn't work... :-/ | 06:39 |
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| phanatic | mornin | 07:45 |
| Gloubiboulga | hi phanatic | 07:45 |
| phanatic | hey Gloubiboulga :) | 07:45 |
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| cbx33 | hi all, got a package that no longer has the old debian version 0.20, debian is on 0.23 ubuntu is still on 0.20, what would be the sync procedure in this case? | 09:00 |
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| ajmitch | cbx33: write up an upstream version freeze exception report, detailing why it should be updated, and giving the diffstat & changelog diff | 09:02 |
| ajmitch | instructions are on the wiki somewhere if I can find them :) | 09:02 |
| ajmitch | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/UVFStatus | 09:03 |
| carthik | err, tortho in #ubuntu-bugs just confirmed Bug 5153 - which should be fixed by changing a couple of dependencies... | 09:04 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 5153 in mythplugins "MythWeb Dependencies" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/5153 | 09:04 |
| cbx33 | thanx ajmitch | 09:04 |
| cbx33 | ajmitch: I've never done a UVF pacakge before....what's a diffstat, and against what do i do the diff of the upstream | 09:05 |
| cbx33 | if you have time | 09:06 |
| ajmitch | you do a recursive diff of the 2 upstream trees | 09:08 |
| ajmitch | eg diff -Naur package-0.20 package-0.23 | diffstat > file | 09:08 |
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| cbx33 | of the source trees? | 09:10 |
| cbx33 | forgive me stupidity here | 09:10 |
| ajmitch | yes | 09:11 |
| cbx33 | is that the original sources, unmodified? | 09:11 |
| cbx33 | or against the debian.23 qand the ubuntu .20 | 09:12 |
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| ajmitch | unmodified sources, iirc | 09:24 |
| jmg | ubuntu xen 3.0.2 packages -> deb http://debian.thoughtcrime.co.nz/ubuntu/ dapper main xen | 09:25 |
| jmg | vote for me: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kernel-package/+bug/40088 | 09:25 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 40088 in kernel-package "[PATCH] Support i386 Xen subarch" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 09:25 |
| cbx33 | thank you ajmitch | 09:25 |
| ajmitch | jmg: vote for you? bugfixing is hardly a democracy :) | 09:25 |
| Mithrandir | jmg: bugs in malone are not "voted for", please stop spamming the development channels. | 09:26 |
| jmg | Mithrandir: ack | 09:26 |
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| jmg | Mithrandir: apologies | 09:28 |
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| cbx33 | ah dang it | 10:08 |
| cbx33 | what looked like a simple solution has now turned into a string of dependencies | 10:08 |
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| cbx33 | I need to resync two packages at least which means getting to UVFs | 10:11 |
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| cbx33 | something i don;tthink will happen this latein the game | 10:18 |
| cbx33 | I'll repackage anyway and submit to the team | 10:18 |
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| Hobbsee | hi everyone | 10:33 |
| ajmitch | hi Hobbsee | 10:34 |
| Hobbsee | :) there is someone around | 10:35 |
| ajmitch | welcome back | 10:35 |
| ajmitch | sure :) | 10:35 |
| Hobbsee | thanks :) | 10:35 |
| === ajmitch never really leaves | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe - you live here? | 10:35 |
| ajmitch | at times I wonder | 10:35 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 10:35 |
| Hobbsee | any more botspam? | 10:35 |
| ajmitch | plenty | 10:36 |
| ajmitch | seveas is around to deal with it now | 10:36 |
| Hobbsee | hehe oh good | 10:37 |
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| ajmitch | dist-upgrade is taking awhile tonight | 10:40 |
| ajmitch | ~70K/sec | 10:40 |
| Lathiat | beats 10K/s shaped? :) | 10:44 |
| ajmitch | a bit :) | 10:44 |
| ajmitch | though I've only used 15GB, with 4 days to go in the billing cycle | 10:45 |
| === StevenK belatedly jumps on Hobbsee. | ||
| === Hobbsee swears and curses | ||
| Hobbsee | hi StevenK | 10:48 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: hehe true | 10:48 |
| Hobbsee | warning: typing may well be baf | 10:49 |
| Hobbsee | s/baf/bad | 10:49 |
| === StevenK finally figures out what is wrong with his prac for SP2. | ||
| ajmitch | hello StevenK | 10:49 |
| === StevenK waves | ||
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: glad to see that they've all gone to #kde now... | 10:51 |
| ajmitch | oh that's good | 10:52 |
| ajmitch | nobody uses those channels :) | 10:52 |
| ajmitch | how is kubuntu going now? | 10:53 |
| ajmitch | everything sorted for the beta? | 10:54 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 10:54 |
| Hobbsee | i'm not sure... | 10:54 |
| Hobbsee | *falls off chair* - ouch! | 10:55 |
| ajmitch | sounds like a silly thing to do | 10:55 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, to go and injure myself more, great | 10:55 |
| ajmitch | heh | 10:55 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: I heard about the accident, you're okay? | 10:56 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: yeah, i am | 10:56 |
| ajmitch | as long as you can still work a computer & fix packages :) | 10:56 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch | 10:56 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee | 10:56 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: well, it's kinda hard to type, seeing as i just cut up my finger a bit... | 10:56 |
| ajmitch | ouch | 10:56 |
| === StevenK had someone hit his car on the M4 last week. | ||
| Hobbsee | eek! | 10:57 |
| StevenK | It was just a love tap, so no damage. | 10:57 |
| Hobbsee | so you were one of thoes many accidents hey? | 10:57 |
| Hobbsee | lol niccccccccccccccce! | 10:57 |
| Hobbsee | work you silly C key, dammit! | 10:57 |
| === Hobbsee maintains that bandaids are bad for typing! | ||
| ajmitch | what did you do to slice up your finger? | 10:58 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: Note that the C key is working, just a little too well. | 10:58 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: What about a liquid bandaid? | 10:58 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: peeling potatoes... | 10:58 |
| ajmitch | ah.. | 10:59 |
| Hobbsee | blood everywhere without a bandaid, which is kinda inconvenient... | 10:59 |
| Hobbsee | s4et... it is now, yes. just not when i first wanted it too | 10:59 |
| ajmitch | especially when you don't want to get blood all over the potatoes | 10:59 |
| Hobbsee | or my keyboard | 10:59 |
| Hobbsee | mum finished the potatoes | 10:59 |
| ajmitch | and it was on your writing hand, too? | 11:00 |
| Hobbsee | no, other hand | 11:01 |
| ajmitch | not so bad then | 11:01 |
| Hobbsee | not the hand i use for the touchpad at work either, which is good | 11:01 |
| StevenK | Oh, bloody hell. | 11:02 |
| StevenK | The totals are still different. | 11:03 |
| ajmitch | what are you working on? | 11:03 |
| StevenK | A prac for uni. | 11:03 |
| ajmitch | ah, nice | 11:04 |
| StevenK | Async I/O under Windows. | 11:04 |
| === ajmitch has a raytracer to get working for uni | ||
| StevenK | Right, works. | 11:04 |
| StevenK | 103 lines of C to do the exercise, and a 20 line C++ program to generate the file required for the exercise. | 11:05 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: so a good rm -rf *.cpp would do wonders? | 11:05 |
| === Hobbsee ducks | ||
| StevenK | Hobbsee: The C++ file I can write off the top of my head. | 11:06 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: and replace it with C# or something? | 11:06 |
| Hobbsee | well, and whatever the extnesion of c files are | 11:07 |
| === StevenK gags ajmitch. | ||
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: yeah, something like that | 11:07 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: .c? :-) | 11:07 |
| Hobbsee | ah ok | 11:07 |
| === StevenK ponders hurting Hobbsee's head with Windows C code. | ||
| ajmitch | StevenK: cruel & unusual punishment | 11:08 |
| === StevenK grins evilly. | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 11:08 |
| === Hobbsee ponders hurting StevenK with a large baseball bat | ||
| === Mithrandir tickles Hobbsee and StevenK | ||
| === Hobbsee pokes Mithrandir sharply in the ribs | ||
| === Mithrandir gets blood on his shirt | ||
| === StevenK ponders finding dinner. | ||
| Hobbsee | i'm wearing a bandiad now silly - hence the dodgy typing | 11:10 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: What's your excuse the rest of the time? | 11:10 |
| === Hobbsee offers StevenK some of the chips she bougth last night | ||
| === StevenK ducks. | ||
| === Hobbsee doesnt type dodgily, the rest of the time :P | ||
| === StevenK should go and put some rice on to cook. | ||
| Hobbsee | silly StevenK | 11:11 |
| ajmitch | hm | 11:15 |
| === Hobbsee ponders | ||
| ajmitch | Mithrandir: how's the release shaping up? | 11:16 |
| Mithrandir | ajmitch: a bit too much of a disarray still, but I'm hoping we'll be able to pull it off for tomorrow. | 11:16 |
| Mithrandir | ajmitch: LP being slow is seriously hampering us, though | 11:16 |
| ajmitch | doesn't surprise me | 11:17 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: is the search borked today, or working? :P | 11:17 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: for malone? | 11:17 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: yes | 11:17 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: no idea. | 11:17 |
| ajmitch | afaik it's not too badly broken today | 11:18 |
| lifeless | hey ajmitch | 11:18 |
| cbx33 | ajmitch: the pacakge i was fixing, is dependant on another package that hasn't been synced | 11:18 |
| cbx33 | and that depends on another | 11:18 |
| cbx33 | eeek what a mess | 11:19 |
| ajmitch | hey lifeless, how's it going? | 11:20 |
| ajmitch | cbx33: often the way | 11:20 |
| === Hobbsee wavs to lifeless | ||
| Hobbsee | s/wavs/waves | 11:20 |
| === lifeless waves around | ||
| lifeless | ajmitch: good, debsigging | 11:21 |
| ajmitch | nice | 11:21 |
| Toadstool | hi | 11:24 |
| === ajmitch hasn't been to any debian/ubuntu-related meetups since LCA | ||
| ajmitch | hello Toadstool | 11:24 |
| Toadstool | good morning ajmitch | 11:24 |
| sivang | morning all | 11:25 |
| Toadstool | morning sivang | 11:25 |
| sivang | hey Toadstool | 11:25 |
| Hobbsee_away | dinner | 11:26 |
| lifeless | ajmitch: dude, come to sydney | 11:26 |
| lifeless | ajmitch: we have them monthly | 11:26 |
| ajmitch | it'd be fun | 11:27 |
| ajmitch | maybe next year :) | 11:27 |
| Hobbsee_away | lifeless: that'd be fun. where at? | 11:27 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee_away: Don't you read the SLUG list? | 11:28 |
| lifeless | Hobbsee_away: cohi bar | 11:28 |
| Hobbsee_away | StevenK: no | 11:28 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee_away: eaten dinner already? :) | 11:28 |
| Hobbsee_away | ajmitchn | 11:28 |
| Hobbsee_away | ajmitch: no, i'm gionfg... | 11:28 |
| Hobbsee_away | lol | 11:28 |
| === Hobbsee_away is really awway | ||
| === ajmitch is still on the LUV & mlug lists, for some reason | ||
| Hobbsee_away | cursed finger... | 11:28 |
| ajmitch | lifeless: I'll probably move to .au in a year or two anyway - currently I'm thinking of melbourne since I have a few contacts there | 11:31 |
| ajmitch | though there seem to be enough sydney people in here | 11:32 |
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| zakame | hi | 11:33 |
| ajmitch | hi zakame | 11:34 |
| zakame | hello ajmitch :) | 11:35 |
| ajmitch | lifeless: fyi, I seem to have a branch that's confusing bzr - bzr info says it's format 6, bzr check says format 4 | 11:40 |
| ajmitch | zakame: I get md5sum mismatch when doign apt-get source digikam | 12:06 |
| ajmitch | so it's not just you seeing problems :) | 12:06 |
| zakame | thanks ajmitch :) | 12:06 |
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| lifeless | ajmitch: shouldn't be confused, thats probably different fields its reporting on | 12:09 |
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| ajmitch | lifeless: right, then the problem is that I can't do bzr status | 12:10 |
| ajmitch | :0:> bzr status | 12:11 |
| ajmitch | bzr: ERROR: No such file: u'/home/ajmitch/debian/phpgroupware/phpgroupware/phpgroupware-0.9.16.010/debian/.bzr/pending-merges': [Errno 2] No such file or directory: u'/home/ajmitch/debian/phpgroupware/phpgroupware/phpgroupware-0.9.16.010/debian/.bzr/pending-merges' | 12:11 |
| lifeless | ajmitch: theres this channel, #bzr | 12:11 |
| ajmitch | I know.. :) | 12:11 |
| lifeless | and its quite good at things like this :) | 12:11 |
| ajmitch | but it's a whole 2 keystrokes to change channels | 12:11 |
| lifeless | you pushed over sftp using 0.8pre and a 0.7 branch format | 12:12 |
| lifeless | know glitch | 12:12 |
| ajmitch | right | 12:12 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: That's a wierd promot | 12:14 |
| StevenK | Er, prompt | 12:14 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: it's just part of it | 12:14 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: But ending a prompt with a > ? | 12:15 |
| ajmitch | why not? :) | 12:15 |
| StevenK | It just seems strange - I'm used to %, $ and # | 12:16 |
| ajmitch | I'm a strange sort of person | 12:17 |
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| zakame | hi \sh ! | 12:20 |
| \sh | huhu | 12:21 |
| ajmitch | hey \sh | 12:21 |
| Gloubiboulga | hi \sh :) | 12:22 |
| \sh | guys, managed to get the freelance job :) | 12:23 |
| zakame | rocking! | 12:25 |
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| ajmitch | \sh: congrats! | 12:25 |
| \sh | ajmitch: now only the money transfer is missing :) | 12:25 |
| ajmitch | heh | 12:25 |
| cbx33 | hice one \sh | 12:27 |
| cbx33 | my wifes a free lance web designer, what freelance are you doing? | 12:27 |
| \sh | cbx33: the official title is senior system administrator :) right now, I'm responsible to setup some fai servers for different network clouds :) | 12:27 |
| ajmitch | \sh: blogged it yet? :) | 12:27 |
| \sh | ajmitch: no nda :) | 12:28 |
| ajmitch | yay | 12:28 |
| \sh | everything is top secret :) | 12:28 |
| cbx33 | ooooooooh | 12:30 |
| === cbx33 is impressed | ||
| StevenK | \sh: So now you've told us a little, you need to kill us? | 12:30 |
| \sh | i didn't tell anyone anything :) | 12:31 |
| ajmitch | of course not | 12:33 |
| ajmitch | we know nothing | 12:34 |
| zakame | are universe/multiver uploads delayed today due to the beta release? | 12:35 |
| tseng | probably | 12:35 |
| dholbach | zakame: they might be lower priority, but they're not "blocked and queued up" afaik | 12:36 |
| zakame | ah | 12:36 |
| tseng | Kamion cant wait hours for someone who sneaks a bunch of universe builds up in his way | 12:36 |
| zakame | I thought my dh_iconcache uploads are >/dev/null :/ | 12:36 |
| tseng | so, be polite | 12:37 |
| zakame | ok =) | 12:37 |
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| Unfrgiven | \sh: grats mate! | 12:47 |
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| Hobbsee | ajmitch: oh good! join us in sydney. | 01:15 |
| Hobbsee | better than melbourne.. | 01:15 |
| kelmo | blasphemy | 01:16 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 01:16 |
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| Kyral | Morning | 01:55 |
| slougi | hi all, "feature freeze" == no updated packages? | 01:55 |
| slougi | morning Kyral | 01:55 |
| Kyral | and bye again :P | 01:57 |
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| zul | heylo | 01:58 |
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| Hobbsee | no uploads, even bug fixes, until after the beta, right? | 02:01 |
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| zul | Hobbsee: you might want to tell bdebian about that | 02:06 |
| Hobbsee | zul: okay, cool, will do. the guy didnt assign it | 02:07 |
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| zul | Hobbsee: uploading to universe is ok though | 02:12 |
| slougi | well since noone answered my previous question ;) I will ask another one: if I want to request a package (mercurial) to be updated, how do I go about doing it? | 02:13 |
| Unfrgiven | woah! dapper+1 = edgy eft! | 02:14 |
| Hobbsee | slougi: is it already in ubuntu and or debian? | 02:15 |
| Hobbsee | and is the update just bug fixes, or a proper update? | 02:15 |
| slougi | Hobbsee: it's in universe | 02:15 |
| slougi | Hobbsee: a proper update | 02:15 |
| slougi | from 0.7 (currently in universe) to 0.8.1 | 02:15 |
| Hobbsee | slougi: it'll have to wait till dapper+1 then | 02:15 |
| slougi | ah right | 02:16 |
| slougi | wasn't clear on the policy on updates | 02:16 |
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| Unfrgiven | \sh: hey dude | 02:16 |
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| Hobbsee | slougi: afaik, anyway | 02:18 |
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| slougi | ok | 02:19 |
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| \sh | re | 02:22 |
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| Hobbsee | any motu's around? | 02:46 |
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| siretart | \sh: congratulations on the new job! :) | 03:39 |
| \sh | siretart: thx | 03:40 |
| zul | \sh: what are you going to be doing? | 03:45 |
| \sh | zul: right now I have a freelancer job :) | 03:46 |
| zul | cool.. | 03:47 |
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| siretart | yay. finally I got the lastfm package from debian working on dapper.. | 04:12 |
| jsgotangco | whoa | 04:13 |
| siretart | it requires the newer libqt4 from debian, I merged the changes locally, but I'm not sure if they are suitable for dapper | 04:14 |
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| Hobbsee | might help | 04:17 |
| siretart | gnarf. the debdiff on libqt4 alone is 400k big. :/ | 04:21 |
| siretart | Hobbsee: why does Ubugtu need to be operator? | 04:21 |
| Hobbsee | siretart: i was under the impression that to boot a user, for a massive spam attack, the person/bot who's doign the booting needs to be an op | 04:22 |
| Hobbsee | at least, that's how it works in #ubuntu/#kubuntu, IIRC, with the exploits | 04:22 |
| Seveas | Hobbsee, #ubuntu-motu hasn't been attacked | 04:24 |
| Seveas | so it's not needed | 04:24 |
| Hobbsee | oh. yet. | 04:24 |
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| === Hobbsee has seen multiple channels get hit multiple times - hard to remember which ones have and havent - and why some are getting hit, as opposed to others | ||
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| === Hobbsee also tends to use the "safe rather than sorry method, but oh well | ||
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| freeflying | dholbach: ping | 05:18 |
| dholbach | freeflying: pong | 05:18 |
| freeflying | dholbach: how about the UVFe of cmake | 05:19 |
| dholbach | freeflying: bug no? | 05:19 |
| freeflying | bug 36168 | 05:20 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 36168 in cmake "need new release for build kde4 package " [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/36168 | 05:20 |
| dholbach | freeflying: can you attach a diff of the ChangeLog? | 05:22 |
| dholbach | freeflying: the changes are fairly large | 05:22 |
| freeflying | dholbach: author hasn't provide the Changelog | 05:23 |
| dholbach | freeflying: is there any information on any website so we can check WHAT was changed in the 100.000 lines of changes? | 05:24 |
| freeflying | dholbach: just a moment , I show you the website of cmake | 05:24 |
| dholbach | freeflying: attach it to the bug report please | 05:25 |
| dholbach | freeflying: I added some other requests as well | 05:25 |
| dholbach | we have to be VERY careful | 05:25 |
| dholbach | cmake is a piece of infrastructure which other packages may use | 05:25 |
| freeflying | dholbach: okey | 05:25 |
| zul | is there karma for uploads? | 05:29 |
| ogra | "rng-tools - Daemon to use a Hardware TRNG" | 05:29 |
| ogra | wow, what a helpful description :) | 05:29 |
| ogra | why didnt he directly write "rng-tools - tools for rng" ? | 05:30 |
| zul | ogra: isnt it | 05:30 |
| ogra | no idea, since i dont know what trng is ;) | 05:30 |
| zul | me either.. | 05:31 |
| zul | i just fix bugs..:) | 05:31 |
| ogra | :) | 05:31 |
| slougi | is universe currently frozen with regard to | 05:32 |
| slougi | *to package updates | 05:33 |
| zul | like bug fixes? | 05:34 |
| ogra | bugfixes are generally fine | 05:35 |
| slougi | no, version bumps | 05:35 |
| slougi | guess it is | 05:35 |
| ogra | wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperRessources tells you about syncs but you need upstream versin freeze exceptions for all newer upstrem versions ... we might lock down even more after beta release (tomorrow) | 05:37 |
| slougi | so no chance of a mercurial version bump from 0.7 to 0.8? :) | 05:41 |
| slomo | slougi: file a UVF exception and we'll see | 05:42 |
| slougi | right | 05:42 |
| ogra | it shouldnd just add random new featurews | 05:42 |
| ogra | but close serious bugs | 05:42 |
| ogra | then you'll get it through more easy | 05:43 |
| ogra | (the smaller the diff between the packages that has to be reviewed, the easier it gets) | 05:43 |
| slougi | it's more in line with "Minor fixes, if the upstream change is a micro-increment (or equivalent)" | 05:44 |
| slougi | they did bump the version number, but the changes are quite minimal, mainly ui convenience | 05:44 |
| slougi | anyway, food, bbiab | 05:44 |
| ogra | no serious bugfixes then ? | 05:44 |
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| crimsun | slomo: one of the more serious bugs on vlc (crashes on matroska files) requires a svn snap, which I'm sure isn't the optimal solution. Backporting all the necessary patches has become an NP-hard problem, so I'm not inclined to attempt it any further. So our choices are to either ignore the matroska issue and disable matroska support for Dapper's vlc, or attempt a svn snap (which closes another stacking bug as well). Opinions? | 05:52 |
| slomo | crimsun: what other changes are in svn? | 05:54 |
| slomo | crimsun: anything great and experimental? ;) | 05:54 |
| crimsun | slomo: tons, nearly all bug fixes | 05:54 |
| slomo | sounds good... why don't you want a svn snapshot? | 05:55 |
| crimsun | supporting a svn snap (like the previous cups in main issue) for 3+ years is not my idea of fun | 05:55 |
| crimsun | I'll roll a svn snap, call for testers, and have a better idea if a UVF exception is necessary by next week | 05:57 |
| slomo | crimsun: hehe ok :) could you convince upstream to make a release? ;) | 05:57 |
| crimsun | slomo: upstream is not so easily persuaded, unfortunately | 05:58 |
| slomo | ah, like the mplayer guys? ;) | 05:58 |
| crimsun | heh | 05:58 |
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| dolson | I never heard of an Eft before :\ | 06:31 |
| jpatrick | eft? | 06:31 |
| dolson | yes, Edgy Eft | 06:32 |
| dolson | it's a young newt, apparently | 06:33 |
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| LaserJock | morning MOTULand | 08:10 |
| jpatrick | hi LaserJock | 08:11 |
| LaserJock | hi jpatrick | 08:12 |
| Tonio_ | LaserJock: morning :) | 08:14 |
| LaserJock | ahh, looks like KDE is awake anyway ;-) | 08:14 |
| LaserJock | whre is the annoucement of Edgy Eft? | 08:27 |
| dholbach | u-d-a | 08:28 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I haven't gotten it yet, must be because I batch u-d-a | 08:28 |
| jpatrick | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000064.html | 08:29 |
| LaserJock | hmm, yeah, I don't see it in u-d-a | 08:30 |
| hub | go for edgy | 08:30 |
| hub | so "Distribution = Edgy" from now on? | 08:30 |
| ogra | from now on ? | 08:31 |
| ogra | we're only in beta freeze of dapper :) | 08:31 |
| hub | ogra: well, new packages on REVU :-) | 08:32 |
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| === LaserJock has to do some string replacements in the Ubuntu Packaging Guide now ;-) | ||
| === jpatrick has to study for exam | ||
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| hub | anyone know if somebody has made packages for the D compiler? | 09:07 |
| hub | there is a gcc frontend | 09:07 |
| azeem | pvanhoof did, I heard | 09:07 |
| azeem | ;) | 09:07 |
| hub | for FC | 09:08 |
| hub | not for Ubuntu | 09:08 |
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| crimsun | there have been since December 2004 according to google | 09:08 |
| hub | ah | 09:08 |
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| ivoks | anyone interested in revival of ebuntu? | 09:25 |
| wasabi | meaning? | 09:26 |
| ivoks | enlightenment | 09:26 |
| zul | i havent used enlightenment for ages | 09:26 |
| ivoks | well... i love it | 09:27 |
| ivoks | ubuntu has all the packages needed to make it great | 09:27 |
| nomed | ivoks: in dapper ? | 09:28 |
| ivoks | yes | 09:29 |
| ivoks | i have setup: | 09:29 |
| ivoks | e16+trayer+gkrellm+gnome-volume-manager+gnome-power-manager+network-manager+nm-applet+gnome-screensaver | 09:30 |
| ivoks | all this under 80MB of RAM | 09:30 |
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| ivoks | sylpheed-claws-gtk2 as email client | 09:30 |
| LaserJock | ivoks: what is the current status of ebuntu | 09:30 |
| ivoks | LaserJock: dead | 09:30 |
| ogra | ivoks, only if you rename it | 09:30 |
| ivoks | ogra: i agree :) | 09:30 |
| zul | maybe Eubuntu :) | 09:31 |
| LaserJock | ivoks: really? monzie didn't want to do more? | 09:31 |
| ivoks | LaserJock: i don't see anything happening | 09:31 |
| ivoks | and i really dislike e17 | 09:31 |
| ivoks | i hope it never gets released :) | 09:31 |
| dolson | is ebuntu still done with checkinstall? | 09:31 |
| LaserJock | I believe so | 09:31 |
| dolson | how Edgy | 09:32 |
| nomed | ivoks: it'll be released soon :) | 09:32 |
| ogra | zul, eubuntu "bruxelles breaker" ? | 09:32 |
| LaserJock | but we kinda told monzie that it wouldn't make Dapper so I think that probably was a bit of a turnoff | 09:32 |
| zul | hehe.. | 09:32 |
| ivoks | nomed: don't talk like that! it might happen, you know :) | 09:32 |
| nomed | ivoks: yes it'll happen soon .. serously :) | 09:33 |
| dolson | he can't really expect a big thing like this to be released if it's done with checkinstall, can he? I mean, with no dependency handling and such | 09:33 |
| ivoks | LaserJock: well, ebuntu or whatever we would call it, can't make into dapper | 09:33 |
| ivoks | dolson: that's cause he wants e17 | 09:33 |
| ivoks | nomed: well, then e17 needs new theme | 09:34 |
| ivoks | i had more robust, old-school desktop, on my mind | 09:34 |
| ivoks | with new fancy things like automounting (g-v-m), power saving (g-p-m) | 09:34 |
| ivoks | xfce doesn't look lightweight anymore :/ | 09:37 |
| ivoks | it looks like... well... gnome :) | 09:37 |
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| dolson | looks aren't everything | 09:38 |
| ivoks | dolson: it feels like gnome | 09:38 |
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| Kyral | The "Edgy Efit" eh? :D | 09:39 |
| ivoks | but it's ok project and i'm sure lots of people love and use it | 09:39 |
| dolson | Eft | 09:39 |
| dolson | Edgy Eft is Eff'd | 09:40 |
| dolson | I hope they use Fuzzy Ferret next | 09:40 |
| Kyral | I kinda like Mark's idea | 09:40 |
| Kyral | the way I read it was "Guys....go wild" | 09:40 |
| === Kyral grins :D | ||
| Kyral | who was talking about Xen integration last night? | 09:41 |
| LaserJock | jmg I think | 09:41 |
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| Kyral | Should I spec it now? | 09:41 |
| Kyral | Because I <3 Xen and would LOVE to work on it | 09:42 |
| === Kyral has a buncha ideas...but doesn't know if they are good ones :P | ||
| Kyral | Somehow I have the feeling that Edgy will be a little more "dev" oriented.... | 09:44 |
| Kyral | or at least have more features for devs | 09:44 |
| Kyral | ping jmg | 09:44 |
| nomed | ivoks: i would say e17 needs dbus, hal and a fm :) | 09:44 |
| Kyral | Do we even have the "GNOME" package? | 09:45 |
| ivoks | nomed: right | 09:45 |
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| === Kyral is energized now :D | ||
| Kyral | Anyone can add a spec right? | 09:49 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: yes, I believe so | 09:53 |
| Kyral | well, there is already a Xen thing on the Specs... | 09:53 |
| LaserJock | I should probably get some going myself | 09:53 |
| Kyral | hmm, I think I can work with jmg on it | 09:53 |
| Kyral | I wanna give an option almost like Debian | 09:54 |
| Kyral | I mean, instead of installing Ubuntu-Desktop to get GNOME | 09:54 |
| Kyral | you should be able to install just "GNOME" | 09:54 |
| Kyral | not all the other crap :D | 09:54 |
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| ivoks | well... 'night guys | 09:59 |
| trappist | if I make a change to a package that definitely won't rate a version bump on its own, should I still make a changelog entry with a new version number and submit a debdiff, or is it sufficient to just submit a diff? | 09:59 |
| trappist | current example: adding a spanish translation to firefox.desktop | 10:00 |
| zul | has anyone considered installing 64bit vmware and trying to fix the adm64 bugs? | 10:00 |
| LaserJock | trappist: yeah, if you don't think it warrants a new version just give a diff of the file you changed | 10:01 |
| trappist | LaserJock: thanks | 10:01 |
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| uniq | who do i contact to be added to the ubuntumembers group in launchpad? | 10:23 |
| uniq | nevermind.. | 10:25 |
| thesaltydog | wait | 10:25 |
| thesaltydog | uniq, you should register in the group, add your name to the next Community Council Agenda, and attend it. | 10:27 |
| Kyral | Whee! My goodies from the FSF finally got here :D | 10:33 |
| uniq | thecore: i'm already approved. But thanks:) | 10:42 |
| theCore | uniq, ? | 10:43 |
| uniq | sorry.. wrong nick. | 10:43 |
| theCore | he | 10:43 |
| uniq | thesaltyd left. :] | 10:43 |
| uniq | and i love tab-completion. | 10:43 |
| theCore | uniq: same-here :) | 10:44 |
| theCore | uniq: nice coincidence, though | 10:44 |
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| zul | heylo | 10:50 |
| ajmitch | hi zul | 10:51 |
| ajmitch | zul: you said before about using 64-bit vmware.. why? :) | 10:52 |
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| cartesian1984 | Salutations, I was wondering if there was any intention of including WASTE in universe by the dapper release. | 10:54 |
| ajmitch | not knowing what it is, I'd say there's very little chance | 10:54 |
| ajmitch | since someone would have to get it packaged & tested in a short amount of time | 10:56 |
| cartesian1984 | When is software freeze? | 10:56 |
| ajmitch | about a month or two ago | 10:56 |
| cartesian1984 | Ouch.... | 10:56 |
| cartesian1984 | Oh well. | 10:56 |
| zul | ajmitch: verify the bugs that say that arent working on amd64, i dont have and amd64 | 10:56 |
| ajmitch | some exceptions can get made, but they'd be rare | 10:56 |
| ajmitch | zul: 64-bit vmware only works on an amd64 | 10:57 |
| zul | oh...never mind..:) | 10:57 |
| robitaille | cartesian1984: someone already requested it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates | 10:57 |
| ajmitch | zul: a growing number of us have real amd64 installs :) | 10:57 |
| zul | yeah...yeah | 10:57 |
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