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lamegotrainstroker, for mp3 check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:00
tonyyarussoKing_Of_No_Pants: There are various ones, in /etc/init.d/ and /etc/sc#.d/12:00
rahis the amd64 architecture usable on em64t?12:00
mzinzmwe: sorry to ask so many questions :)12:00
looksausmost if not anything can be found there12:00
lamegofor ntfs you dont need any special package12:00
King_Of_No_Pantsthanks12:00
mzinzmwe: how do i make it double click instead of single click to open an icon12:00
mwemzinz: that's ok. you don't learn if you don't ask12:00
jammyflynn99ubantu seems very simular to windows12:00
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rahie, if I download the amd64 ubuntu install disk, will it install on an em64t machine?12:00
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trainstrokerwhat is sudo12:00
Blissexrah: yes.12:00
rah(in 64-bit style)12:00
craig442can anyone help me? i am trying to install usbvision driver and it's getting the better of me!12:00
rahBlissex: thanks12:00
Comrade_Sergeisomeone know alot on WINE they wont help me in #winehq12:01
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jammyflynn99sudo+ root12:01
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jammyflynn99=12:01
trainstrokerok12:01
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lamegotrainer, is the command to run programs with administrator privilege12:01
asdf25trainstroker: you can search for packages in ubuntu... to find names of NTFS-related packages you could run "sudo apt-cache search NTFS"12:01
looksaustrainstroker, sudo is like putting on system administrator hat12:01
mwemzinz: I haved used that in ages. alt-f2 and run kcontrol it should be there somewhere I think. sudo apt-get install kcontrol if you don't have it12:01
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mzinzmwe: thanks12:01
looksaustrainstroker, read a good basic introduction, it will tell you that12:01
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trainstrokerasdf 25 i really have no idea how to work linux so what u sugested made no sense12:01
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mzinzGeneral question: What is the difference between i386 and i686 architecture?12:02
jammyflynn99does ctr+alt+f1 just make terminal full screen12:02
asdf25trainstroker: heheh ok. it was just a command to run, not particularly good advice12:02
lamegotrainstroker, go for the tutorial :)12:02
trainstrokerooo12:02
mwemzinz: i386 is generic12:02
trainstrokerwhat tut12:02
asdf25trainstroker: i would guess there's some sort of ubuntu guide that explains a lot of these things though12:02
mwemzinz: covers >= intel 38612:03
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jammyflynn99ctr + alt + backspace realy helped when someone told me to do it12:03
lamegotrainstroker, google.com: ubuntu guide12:03
looksaustrainstroker, google12:03
looksaushttp://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/index.html12:03
mwe!ubuntuguide12:03
uboturumour has it, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead12:03
looksausafter +- 5 seconds12:03
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looksaustrainstroker, good luck!12:04
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jammyflynn99ubantu unofficial guide is very good12:04
jammyflynn99ubantuguide.org12:04
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mwejammyflynn99: see the note from ubotu12:05
ltR20is it possible to install ubuntu from a DVD12:05
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ltR20i only have DVDS12:05
lamegojammyflynn99, could you shutup please ? you make a lot of dumb sentences wich don't help anyone12:05
mwejammyflynn99: it breaks things and doesn't explain what it does12:05
trainstrokerso i downloaded a .deb for alien what now12:05
AlexMillerHey. i just got a package of cd's, loaded my live x86 copy and here I am. I an a linux newbie, and i am wondering if it is possible to resize an NTFS partition and stick in a Linux partition12:05
tonyyarussojammyflynn99: There's better, newer stuff.12:05
vinboyhi i'm thinking to upgrade to dapper, but will  I still be able to use my breeezy apps under dapper?12:05
tonyyarussohttp://help.ubuntu.com/ to start.12:06
lamegotrainer, do not proceed with using alien when there are ubuntu packages available, read the  help.ubuntu.com to start with12:06
asdf25trainstroker: you shouldn't have to download a .deb... the way to install alien would be "sudo apt-get install alien"12:06
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tonyyarussovinboy: Same stuff should be around.12:06
asdf25trainstroker: you should probably read a guide about the basics of ubuntu packages12:06
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tonyyarusso(And then much more, of course!)12:06
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looksaustrainstroker, spare yourself the confusion, read some basic introduction12:07
asdf25also you shouldn't have to install alien, probably ever12:07
jammyflynn99there must be thousands and thousands of stuff to install aptitude list is massive12:07
looksauslike the one I pointed you at12:07
trainstrokeralright so i installed alien. but how do i run it ? (sorry for the noobiness12:07
trainstrokerill go to the guide in a sen12:07
asdf25i seriously doubt that you should actually be running alien12:07
trainstrokersec*12:07
looksaustrainstroker, noobiness is nothing, but why ask if you don't want to listen?12:08
lamegotrainer, read the introduction to ubuntu as most people is suggesting12:08
mzinzHow do I disable text wrap on icons?12:08
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me2wini use alien a good amount, it helps in alot of situations12:08
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lamegonot on this case when there are ubuntu packages available and he doesn't know how to use them12:08
asdf25well it's highly unlikely that it's the very first thing a new user would want to do after installing ubuntu12:08
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mweme2win: as you long as you don't use it headlessly ...12:08
mweme2win: I've used it too12:09
me2winoh yeah. if there are packages available in repos or debian pkgs, then no reason to use. Only when finding a deb is a TON of work or you just cant find one12:09
looksaustrainstroker, I realise I'm only an unknown irc user in the distance, but I'm really trying to help you!12:09
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tombshi all12:09
dudahola12:09
lamego!!es12:10
ubotulamego: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:10
asdf25hehehe, yeah, you really should read a guide, i think you'll be able to understand how to install packages pretty quickly if you do that12:10
craig442can anyone here help me install the usbvision driver?12:10
vinboythanks tonyyarusso12:10
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looksauscraig442, maybe I can help somewhat if you have some more info for me...12:11
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craig442ok, i am trying to install usbvision driver so that i can use tvtime with my pctv usb2 device12:12
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looksausyou are trying to install what kind of device? and where do you want to get that usbvision driver from?12:12
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craig442the problme is, i have the driver, but i am trying to follow the instructions and it am getting nowhere!12:12
looksauswhere do you get the driver from?12:13
looksausinstructions online somewhere?12:13
craig442usbvision.sourceforge.net12:13
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beastynn all12:13
craig442http://usbvision.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=documentation12:13
craig442those are the instructions i am following12:13
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lamegodid you managed to compile the kernel module ?12:14
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mwecraig442: generally you need at least build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r) to compile a kernel module12:14
craig442sorry, i am new, i have no idea how to do most of it!12:14
looksauscraig442, are you sure it is not in the kernel yet?12:14
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looksausor a module that is around somewhere?12:14
craig442how do i do that?12:14
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lamegosudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)12:14
looksausit probably should be by now...12:14
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alelinuxhi12:15
looksauscraig442, you should check that first absolutely12:15
MrPocketsso i got this file. its a .RAR at 84 megs, supposed to have music files in it.12:15
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MrPocketsbut even though its 81 megs, the files empty12:15
MrPocketswhat says you?12:15
craig442it just asked me to insert the cdrom12:15
craig442is that right?12:15
looksauscraig442, I'll be honest I have no experience with usb video stuff drivers, but I do have a lot of experience with installing exotic drivers12:15
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mweMrPockets: broken file12:15
MrPocketspoop12:16
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MrPocketssolution?12:16
looksauscraig442, wait before you start tinkering with kernels12:16
teleyinexhi12:16
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looksausyou really need to check12:16
mweMrPockets: get a file that's not broken12:16
teleyinexim wondering why when i want to print a pdf file I cant select even pages or odd pages12:16
teleyinexis this a bug?12:16
WarboMrPockets: RAR archives should be accessible even if they are partially broken. You do have unrar or similar installed don't you?12:16
teleyinexa limitation?12:16
teleyinexwhat?12:16
looksausit is probably in the ubuntu kernel somewhere already12:16
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teleyinexim in breezy12:16
craig442ok12:16
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MrPocketsi believe so12:16
teleyinexI have to use kpdf to do that12:16
craig442is there anyway i can check?12:16
looksauschecking myself right now12:17
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lamegoteleyinex, I guess that depends on the pdf program you are using, you should also be able to do it with acrobat (I guess)12:17
craig442ok12:17
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teleyinexyes12:17
looksauscraig442, just to make sure, please connect your device and12:17
looksausopen a terminal12:17
craig442uh huh12:17
looksaustype12:17
teleyinexbut i want to use evince, or gpdf12:17
looksauslsusb12:17
looksausyou know how to open a terminal?12:17
teleyinexbut with both of them, the same fucking problem12:17
craig442yeah, it see's it12:17
craig442Bus 004 Device 002: ID 2304:0208 Pinnacle Systems, Inc. [hex] 12:18
amphiteleyinex: FWIW, you can also view pdf in gv, dunno if that'll do what you want12:18
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looksausok, that says nothing yet about it being supported, but it's a first step12:18
teleyinexamphi, I could try it12:18
teleyinexbut its incredible that these apps dont have that feature12:19
teleyinexincredible12:19
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craig442when i try dmesg, i can't see any reference to it12:19
Warboteleyinex: Do you want to add it? Or you could ask the developers12:19
lamegoteleyinex, well, I have never used them, it is not that incredible for me :)12:19
ompaulLanguage please, leave it at the door12:19
looksauscraig442, don't worry about that... it's a usb device...12:20
MrPocketsi kinda wanna play CS12:20
teleyinexthis things make sense in the flame: kde vs gnome12:20
craig442when i went to #tvtime, someone there told me to install this driver, but they couldn't help me other than that12:20
naliothteleyinex: please respect us with your language choices12:20
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trainstrokerwhat is multiverse and unvierse?12:20
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facugaich!repos12:20
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource12:20
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_jasonubotu: tell trainstroker about componentes12:20
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_jasonubotu: tell trainstroker about components12:20
teleyinexnalioth, what?12:21
teleyinexi dont understand you12:21
naliothteleyinex: profanity is not welcome here12:21
craig442is there anything else you want me to try?12:21
ompaulteleyinex, bad language is not welcome, thanks12:22
james_good night guys12:22
lamegoteleyinex, you can fill a bug report for it on launchpad: https://launchpad.net/12:22
teleyinexok12:22
teleyinexbut i have only expressed myself12:22
teleyinex;)12:22
looksauscraig442, researching....12:22
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craig442ok, cool, thankyou for helping me with this, it is appreciated!12:23
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looksauscraig442, I assume you are using Ubuntu v2005.10 ("breezy"), the latest stable release?12:25
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craig442yes12:25
anderbubble(In dapper) I've been having real trouble getting my Xserver configured with an ati radeon 9600xt. I've used the 'ati' driver, the 'radeon' driver, and the 'fglrx' driver. Should this work properly, and likely just an xorg.conf misconfiguration, or is there a real problem?12:26
looksausyour device will probably have _much_ better support in the next release12:26
looksausI've looked up here and there a bit12:26
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Warboanderbubble: Dapper should be discussed in #ubuntu+1 but I use vesa for a basic ATI setup12:27
looksausand it seems to have been integrated into a more standard driver framework, calles v4l (video for linux)12:27
craig442ok12:27
looksausbut this support is not available in breezy12:27
craig442oh right12:27
anderbubbleI take it #ubuntu+1 is the development channel?12:27
craig442so i have to wait till the next release12:27
craig442?12:27
looksausthat depends on how dirty you want to get your hands12:27
Warboanderbubble: Not FOR development, but for use by Dapper users, whether they are developers or not (I'm not,)12:28
mweanderbubble: it's probably a problem with xorg.conf. read !ati the instructions should work for dapper as well12:28
Duanybody has experience in getting encfs to worg in dapper?12:28
Blissexanderbubble: 9600XT should work well with both 'radeon' and 'fglrx' (the latter with some more problems).12:28
looksausI'm running the pre-release since december or something, and in the beginning there were some minor annoyances, but these have been fixed12:28
craig442i have been on loads of forums that have people saying they are having problems with this device, but with sound, not picture12:28
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yggdrasilhey guys got kind aof a weird situation, no internet connection at my house a computer with ubuntu with and no cd player how can i get it to acces the ubuntu cd so i can install some stuff from apt ?12:28
craig442ok, so the new release is ok?12:29
looksauscraig442, that problem could still be present12:29
looksausbut at least you should have something to look at12:29
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Warboyggdrasil: Is it feasable to make a network, wired or wireless?12:29
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yggdrasilwarbo wired12:29
looksausthat is what I compiled from reading various online information sources12:29
anderbubblethanks12:29
craig442ok12:30
yggdrasilwarbo and ive got a windows box or a linux box12:30
moitiois there a way to install dapper from hoary without a CD or internet connection, just a dapper CD image?12:30
MrRioi need to free up some space, ive just removed everything graphical, xserver, gtk etc.12:30
craig442so, you think i should get the next version?12:30
looksauscraig442, so as I said, it all depends on how much energy and risk you want to spend on it12:30
MrRioand im still using a gigabyte12:30
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mweyggdrasil: I did a network install on my ibm x40 without a cd drive12:30
MrRioAny temp files sticking around I can clean up?12:30
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looksausis this your primary workstation, do you need it for work? then the golden rule is not to run anything but stable...12:30
yggdrasilmwe ive allready got it installed. i just need to install some stuff thats on the cd12:30
mwemoitio: it's not supported, upgrading over two releases12:30
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craig442is there anyway you can help me instsall this driver? just so i can let it go if it then doesn't work?12:31
B0FH!w32codecs12:31
ubotuhmm... w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install12:31
looksauscraig442, others may label me very conservative for thi12:31
mweyggdrasil: hmm12:31
yggdrasili jsut want to have basicly a repository localy on my lan12:31
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craig442sorry, it's just that i have been trying for hours now and i keep getting the problem12:31
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flaviusI have a pppoe network connection. how can i configure it?12:31
craig442the same problem even12:32
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nickrudflavius, pppoeconfig12:32
beniaminoi just destroyed my system by dist-upgrading to dapper. i get a segfault when it tries to load the kernel.  using an old kernel, i get no networking.  any ideas how i can recover?12:32
mwe!pppoe12:32
ubotupppoe is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE12:32
lflashlok how can i dl mplayer with apt-get (SHOULD I USE APT-GET?)12:32
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looksauscraig442, if you say you're a relative newbie, I would choose between waiting for the next version or upgrading12:33
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looksausI think that's the most realistic way to have a go at it12:33
nickrudflavius, did you catch that link that ubuto has above about pppoe?12:33
moitiomwe: say I downloaded a warty image and put it in a fat32 partition, how would I use that to upgrade?12:33
AlexMillerjoin channel #fedex and chat about the shipping company that is sweeping the world. i think.....12:33
B_166-ER-Xi have a problem with K3b, although seeming obvious (joliet extensions problem ?) i dont see what to do... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12521   dont tell me i have to rename all those files..  i cannot beleive its this complicated..12:33
flaviusyes, thanks12:33
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=== nickrud notes that page, fewer questions in the long run :)
craig442there is just one bit of the instructions i am having trouble with12:34
looksausdoing it any other way will force you through a lot of trouble, and even if you get things working, that kind of trouble risks of repeating itself with later system upgrades12:34
AlexMillerjoin channel #fedex and chat about the shipping company that is sweeping the world. i think.....12:34
looksaus_if_ you don't follow ordinary ubuntu packages12:34
anderbubbleOn a more general note: does anyone know the right way to set up MergedFB?12:35
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naskyhi all12:35
looksauscraig442, of course, you're welcome to ask more specific questions, and I'll try to handle them as well as I can12:35
anderbubble(using an ati radeon)12:35
looksausbut if you are willing to experiment, I would suggest you to uprade to dapper12:35
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craig442ok, fair enough, i just don't know what it means when it says : For both you must have installed the kernel sources. The files12:35
craig442    /lib/modules/kernel_version/build/.config    and12:35
craig442    /lib/modules/kernel_version/build/linux/version.h12:35
craig442have to reflect the running kernel.12:35
B_166-ER-Xplease, i scrapped 3 dvdr trying to figure out my problem, i even buyed a new dvdr drive :|12:35
beniaminocraig442: after my experience today, i would suggest dapper is not ready to be tried yet12:36
LadyNikonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12522  Can someone help me with this please? i did apt-get install eterm12:36
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LadyNikonI am also not able to update any packages?12:36
beniaminounlesss you know exactly what you're doing12:36
naskyi've just installed XFCE4 and i don't know how, the desktop disapeared. so now i can't choose any wallpaper and the right click doesn't work anymore. what should i do ?12:36
looksauscraig442, do you know what I say with the following:12:36
naskyi've found xfce4-panel but there is not fxce4-desktop ...12:36
looksausget the kernel source packages12:36
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looksaus?12:36
craig442no12:36
looksausthen we're a looong way from home with this12:37
Stormx2Damnit, such an annoying bug in ubuntu12:37
mweLadyNikon: apt-get update. if that doesn't fix it, pastebin.com your /etc/apt/sources.list12:37
craig442ok, fair enough12:37
looksausI'm sorry, I don't have time for > 1 H12:37
nickrudLadyNikon, you probably have a bad/incomplete  /etc/apt/sources.list, could you put it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12:37
nickgarveyStormx2: what are you talking about?12:37
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craig442fair enough12:37
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looksausit's 00.40 am in the morning here and I have to work tomorrow12:37
Stormx2I don't know how I do it, but I use firefox, and I drag by accident. The little move file cursor comes up and stays there. I can't do anything, the system locks up for 30 seconds12:38
craig442thanks for your help anyway12:38
looksauscraig442, sorry for not being able to help you12:38
looksauson this path12:38
ZZzzZZI need help LOL i forgot My user name i recond or my password i forgot what named i used to log on to ubuntu12:38
LadyNikon,endeavormac ot dodmt fox ot12:38
nickrudStormx2, a bug in firefox, I see it all the time12:38
craig442not a problem, thankyou for trying12:38
ZZzzZZcan anyone help12:38
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looksausyou could still try to upgrade to dapper, though, if you feel a little adventurous12:38
LadyNikonjp;d pm12:38
mweZZzzZZ: boot to recovery mode and fix it12:38
nickgarveyStormx2: yeah that's not a bug, that's you dragging by accident, just click anywhere on the page for it to go away..12:38
Stormx2nickrud: Ah ok. Annoying isn't it?12:38
looksausthat should not take so many instructions...12:38
nickrudLadyNikon, you are garbled12:38
Stormx2nickgarvey: Thats the thing. it doesn't.12:38
ZZzzZZhow i do that12:38
ZZzzZZheh12:38
craig442yeah, maybe, i think i might be a little out of my depth though!12:39
ZZzzZZwith the install cd?12:39
mweZZzzZZ: no12:39
nickrudStormx2, yes, I've learned to left click. It usually cuts it short12:39
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craig442i have waited this long, a while longer probably won't make much difference!12:39
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looksauscraig442, sorry, not a native english speaker, not certain about what you want to say12:39
looksausok12:39
ZZzzZZhow then12:39
mweZZzzZZ: from the boot menu. press escape at the beginning of the bootup process if it doesnt show by default12:39
Stormx2nickrud, nickgarvey, that *sometimes* works for me. Usually I just have to wait for it to go away12:39
beniaminois there any way to force the installer to install on a non-clean partition?12:39
beniaminoif not, i am completely screwed12:39
benjiis there a site that details whats new in dapper drake?12:40
asdf25it can install on partitions that aren't empty12:40
looksausgood luck, and remember: when I tried to help you, I was trying to help someone to learn and appreciate free-as-in-speech software12:40
craig442i don't think i am ready to upgrade to dapper12:40
mweZZzzZZ: then choose recovery mode12:40
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nickrudnickgarvey, it's not reading my mind. That's a but :)12:40
scifiwould u guys recommend using easyubuntu to do a "one-sweep" install of multimedia codecs?12:40
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looksauscraig442, bye and good luck!12:40
craig442not good enough to experiment like that12:40
nickrud*bug, darn it12:40
craig442thanks fo ryour help12:40
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craig442cheers12:40
mwescifi: I hear it's ok12:40
nickrudscifi, there's smart people creating that script12:40
beniaminoasdf25: how? it says 'this installer doesn't allow you to install over an existing GNU-Linux system overwring system files'12:40
slavikscifi: easy ubuntu is made for that12:40
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scifiso yes then? :)12:41
slavikscifi: yes12:41
mwe!automatix12:41
uboturumour has it, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.12:41
nickrudscifi, if you're gonna use a script, don't do what slavik did :)12:41
asdf25beniamino: ah. well that's different, i installed it over files that didn't conflict with anything that would be installed, i just a single directory in the root directory12:41
LadyNikonmwe, nickrud http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1252312:41
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slaviknickrud: :(12:41
scifio its a script, hard to install then?12:41
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slavikscifi: just use easyubuntu12:42
gnomefreakscifi: you dont install scripts you run them12:42
asdf25beniamino: i don't know how you'd even get a usable system like that, if you already have files in the places it's dealing with12:42
flaviuseasyubuntu doesn't create problems with the system?12:42
slavikno12:42
slavikit isn't supposed to12:42
mweLadyNikon: comment line 1. uncomment 6 and 7, removing the us. part from the url12:42
gnomefreakflavius: safest bet is always to do it without scripts12:42
benjiis there a site that details whats new in dapper drake?12:42
slavik!dapper12:42
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)12:42
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asdf25doesn't easyubuntu work really well actually? or is it only for dapper?12:42
gnomefreakbenji: yes i will grab the wiki for you12:42
slavikread that page benji12:43
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scifignomefreak: thats what i meant :P12:43
mweLadyNikon: then sudo apt-get update12:43
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slavikasdf25: easyubuntu is for breezy, too12:43
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jorge_#hinchas12:43
LadyNikonmwe: i just updated.12:43
slavikanyone want to feel sorry for me?12:43
LadyNikonmwe it doesnt fix anything12:43
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beniaminoanyone have _any_ advice for a system that won't boot after dist-upgrade to dapper?12:43
mweLadyNikon: but did you edit it like I told you to?12:43
mweLadyNikon: comment line 2. uncomment 6 and 7, removing the us. part from the url12:43
lflashlwht mplayer should i get 386 or 586 i have a AMD 2200+12:43
LadyNikoni didnt see that message12:44
carthikbeniamino, join #ubuntu+1 please12:44
gnomefreakbenji: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta12:44
carthiklflashl, 58612:44
mweLadyNikon: well please do it12:44
gnomefreaklflashl: what does uname -r say12:44
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beniaminocarthik: ok, thanks12:44
harisundCan somebody tell me if I can start a vnc viewer in listener mode12:44
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lflashljust flash with pretty side pictures12:44
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crouchingMonkeyi just installed conky and i need to configure something but i cant find the folder12:45
benjichears gnomefreek12:45
nickrudlflashl, mplayer-k612:45
mweharisund: I'm not really int vnc but isn't viewer just a client, not a server?12:45
D-Mannjoin #ubuntu-ru12:45
carthikcrouchingMonkey, dpkg -L package-name gives you all the files the packge installed, wiht locations12:45
B_166-ER-Xcan anyone help with k3b ?12:45
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Kaya_What about k3b?12:46
mambotechguy's trying to play an mp3 and I get this message There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins12:46
ZZzzZZNothing happen mwe12:46
B_166-ER-Xi have a problem with K3b, although seeming obvious (joliet extensions problem ?) i dont see what to do... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1252112:46
alasdairwhere do i set the path in ubuntu more permanatly?12:46
carthikB_166-ER-X, generally it is a good idea to just ask the question the best you can :)12:46
crouchingMonkeyahh thanks carthik :)12:46
mweZZzzZZ: what do you mean? please explain12:46
nickrud!tell mambotech about restricted12:46
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simonpcaje re, ca merdoie vraiment chez moi avec xchat12:46
B_166-ER-Xcarthik i did 10 min ago, but didnt have an answer so..12:46
PSmambotech:  try easyubuntu - google it12:47
harisundmew: Yeah you are right. But a VNC viewer (client) can be started in a mode called "listener mode" and a server can initiate a connection by calling the listener.12:47
f00li5hharisund: away shoveling filth arround the apartment.12:47
dieguitomambotech, yep12:47
ZZzzZZi hit escape on everything12:47
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ZZzzZZwhere was loading files12:47
harisundf00li5h: What?12:47
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mambotechok12:47
carthikB_166-ER-X, you should ask again, after waiting a while as you have, maybe improve it before asking :)12:47
mambotechthanks12:47
simonpcare12:47
ZZzzZZto said ubuntu and loading files and it kept saying ok to every file12:47
lflashlshould i get the updates for my ver of ubuntu?12:47
harisundmew: I didn't know, but "xvncviewer -listen" starts the VNC viewer in listener mode.12:47
Killazlo Ubuntu freak!12:47
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mweZZzzZZ: before that12:47
Killazfreaks*12:47
harisundf00li5h what did you try to tell me earlier? I didn't get you.12:48
mweZZzzZZ: just after the initial cmos output12:48
B_166-ER-Xcarthik well... with the ubuntu log, and the explication of my problem, i dont see how i could improve it, maybe with better syntax or something, but hey.. ;)12:48
ZZzzZZI hit escape bunch of {"{:{"{:"{: showed up but nothing happen it restarted12:48
mweZZzzZZ: you have to hit it at the right time12:49
B_166-ER-Xso anyone ever saw : Possibly creating an invalid Joliet extension. Aborting. , error in k3b . dang12:49
ZZzzZZok i'll try again12:49
harisundmwe: Thanks for your help, I managed to find out by RTFM :D12:49
mweZZzzZZ: just after you turn on the pc12:49
carthikB_166-ER-X, hmm, I just used to rename files to remove the accented chars and try again... char encoding probs are weird12:49
mweZZzzZZ: and the default text from the bios goes away12:49
mzinzHow do I edit my themes in KDE?12:49
mweharisund: heh12:49
Killazmaybe not an unbiased place to ask... bot how well does Ubuntu perform as a server compare to other distro's?12:49
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mwemzinz: kde-look.org has a guide on themes somewhere I think12:50
dieguitoKillaz, google for some articles or comparisons12:50
B_166-ER-Xcarthik the problem is whatever i try to burn seems to have bad chars encoding or something, and it wasnt like this before, also, a lot of files i have to burn are on a read only drive, hence i cannot rename them12:50
mzinzmwe: thanks12:50
Wibble-Killaz, Ubuntu sucks - you should try something like windows 9512:50
lflashldum shit program12:50
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amphiKillaz: debian for servers IMHO12:50
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carthikB_166-ER-X, try tweaking the joliet-related options in K#B (possibly under advanced options, perhaps.)12:51
B_166-ER-Xtried :|12:51
mweyeah debian stable for my servers12:51
ablighWibble-, I thought CPM would be a better option12:51
mambotechmark@ubuntu:~$ gksudo python easyubuntu/trunk/easyubuntu.py12:51
mambotechpython: can't open file ''easyubuntu/trunk/easyubuntu.py'': [Errno 2]  No such file or directory12:51
mambotechmark@ubuntu:~$12:51
ZZzzZZwitch one do i select there 2 of them12:51
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LadyNikonah mew left.12:52
f00li5hLadyNikon: away shoveling filth arround the apartment.12:52
lflashlall i want to do i play my mp3s12:52
ZZzzZZnm12:52
LadyNikonwhat?12:52
CNTRLXWhere is my terminals font directory?12:52
harisundf00li5h What does that mean?12:52
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carthikB_166-ER-X, besides suggesting to search for existing related bugs on the kde and ubuntu bugtrackers there is little I can do. You can also ask at the forums. Though the answers take longer to arrive, they do, eventually12:52
lflashltried to install mplayer but i need all these other files12:52
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KillazWibble-: thnx for the tip... I'll d/l win95 somewhere, maybe I should go for windows 3.1112:52
_jasonlflashl: what do you mean?  you should just be able to use apt in one command12:52
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amphiLadyNikon: f00li5h has failed the turing test, that's all12:52
dieguitomambotech, why do you have the trunk of easyubuntu12:53
dieguitojust grab the release12:53
lflashlso apt-get install mplayer 586?12:53
_jasonlflashl: have you been linked to the wiki?12:53
_jasonlflashl: yeah12:53
dieguitoit's a .tar.gz that you can untar and then just ./easyubuntu.py12:53
_jasonlflashl: mplayer-58612:53
ZZzzZZIs the server name my username12:53
amphiKillaz: windows 386 was rather good12:53
simonpcaa++12:53
B_166-ER-Xcarthik said it. its long... i buyed a new drive this evening cause I NEED to burn to dvd... anyway, i'll keep trying it seems...12:53
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LadyNikoneh12:53
LadyNikonI still cant get my system to update :(12:53
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LadyNikonand I know its not.12:53
CNTRLXWhere is my terminals font directory?12:53
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gnomefreaklflashl: sudo apt-get install mplayer-58612:53
D-Mannhi everyone!12:53
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nickrudlflashl, you have an amd, right?12:54
mzinzwhats the package name for the flash plugin for ubuntu?12:54
Killazamphi: I'm too young for windows 386... ;-)12:54
nekostar!azureus12:54
mambotechdieguito:OK ..how do I launch easyubuntu ?12:54
ubotuI heard azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo12:54
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amphiCNTRLX: /usr/share/consolefonts12:54
_jasonmzinz: flashplugin-nonfree in multiverse12:54
mzinz_jason: thank you12:54
dieguitomambotech, ./easyubuntu.py12:54
D-Manndoes anyone know, how to save user account and system settings under live-cd?12:54
Killaz!ubuntu12:54
ubotuI guess ubuntu is a free GNU/Linux distribution. More at http://www.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth12:54
Apostle^where does the gnome-bluetooth manager reside?12:54
Killaz!suse12:54
ubotuKillaz: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:54
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gnomefreakD-Mann: install it is the only way i know of12:54
D-MannOK12:55
ZZzzZZmwe it stopped12:55
carthikB_166-ER-X, this may sound stupid, but try searching google for "Possibly creating an invalid Joliet extension. Aborting." k3b12:55
ZZzzZZwhat do i type in there12:55
gnomefreakD-Mann: if its breezy live you cant install from it12:55
sethkD-Mann, you could fool it but it's really not worth the effort12:55
LadyNikonyay for having an smp kernel again :D12:55
B_166-ER-Xcarthik first thing i did ...12:55
lflashli yes AMD 2200+12:55
B_166-ER-Xseems its nota frequent problem12:55
scifican anyone recommend a linux 3d-modelling/rendering app?12:55
carthikB_166-ER-X, you are ahead of me. Sorry mate, would have loved to be more helpful t you12:55
B_166-ER-Xnp12:55
_jasonscifi: blender12:56
B_166-ER-Xi'll keep trying12:56
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gnomefreaklflashl: if uname -r outputs 586 than thats the one you install12:56
CNTRLXcan i put in windows custom fonts in with my console fonts?12:56
harisundB_166-ER-X,carthik: What is the problem? Might I join your conversation?12:56
ZZzzZZit stopped at root@folishpride:"#12:56
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scifi_jason: i bought the book a couple of years ago, (windows) but cud still never get my head around that WEIRd interface12:56
lflashli did tis12:56
B_166-ER-Xharisund,  trying to understand why i cannot burn dvd with k3b, seeming to be a joliet problem or something i dont get12:56
lflashlapt-get install mplayer 58612:56
amphiCNTRLX: no idea, but I doubt it12:56
mambotechdieguito: I can't find the file location12:56
CaminomasterHello12:56
harisund B_166-ER-X, oh :(12:57
carthikharisund, <B_166-ER-X> i have a problem with K3b, although seeming obvious (joliet extensions problem ?) i dont see what to do... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1252112:57
D-Manni have install disk, so it's OK12:57
lflashlthen i get errors about dependencies12:57
gnomefreaklflashl: mplayer-58612:57
scifiany other 3d app recommendations other than blender?12:57
lflashlsorry i ment mplayer-58612:57
amphiscifi: povray12:57
_jasonlflashl: have you enabled universe and multiverse?12:57
lflashli though apt-get was ment to fix that12:57
ZZzzZZSome body help me mwe tould me to do a recovery and What now12:57
gnomefreaklflashl: and your sure your on a 586 kernel?12:57
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lflashlyes i hink so12:57
lflashli dont know sorry12:58
gnomefreaklflashl: uname -r12:58
gnomefreakthat will tell you12:58
Wibble-I am working on a contract which requires me to use mysql 4.1.10 - but ubuntu currently includes 4.1.12.  Is there any way I can install the previous version to ensure what I'm doing works on 4.1.10?12:58
lflashl2.6.12-9-38612:58
amphiZZzzZZ: your box's hostname is 'folishpride'???12:58
scifiamphi: easy to get to grips with modelling with that?12:58
CaminomasterWhy can I make that some files don't appear with "invalid encoding"?12:58
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D-MannI asked this, because this feature was in Knoppix.12:58
gnomefreaklflashl: mplayer-38612:58
blindxAny utilities for removing a program's taskbar button and instead, giving it an icon in the tray?12:58
ZZzzZZyeah12:58
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lflashlstill get dep errors12:58
amphiscifi: the manual is good and has a tutorial - the upside is the 'interface' is your favorite text editor ;)12:58
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gnomefreaklflashl: make sure the uni and multi repos are enabled other than the backports one12:59
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_jasonlflashl: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please12:59
_jasonlflashl: along with the errors you get12:59
kingspawnCaminomaster: filesystem on the disk where these files appear?12:59
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nickrudblindx, things need to be written properly for use in the tray, so no12:59
amphiscifi: it's not a modeler, it's a raytracer that uses a 'scene description language' to render images12:59
kingspawnnickrud: could you elaborate on that?12:59
ZZzzZZ<amphi> ZZzzZZ: your box's hostname is 'folishpride'??? YES!01:00
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B_166-ER-X:-( unable to pread64(2) primary volume descriptor: Input/output error01:00
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harisundcarthik and B_166-ER-X could you figure out the problem? I am also curious to know.01:00
kingspawnZZzzZZ: he might be commenting on the spelling of "foolish"01:00
amphiscifi: there are various modelers, kpovmodeler is perhaps the most complete - see povray.org01:00
CaminomasterKingspawn: VArious, mainly files copied from a Win PC01:00
_jasonlflashl: can you go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and put them there? that's what I meant01:00
ZZzzZZOMG!01:00
kingspawnCaminomaster: ah, yes. mounting it with the option "utf8" might help01:00
scifiamphi: only want gui apps not command line01:00
harisundI am having a strong feeling this is the file that is causing the problem. Try not including that file along with the rest of the files. I really think the accented 'e' is what is causing the problem. I am not sure if you can include such file names on CDs and DVDs .01:01
harisund B_166-ER-X ^^01:01
nickrudthe panel/taskbar icon is simply a link to a launcher. The notification area/tray is actively updated by the app01:01
lflashlok01:01
ZZzzZZ<amphi> ZZzzZZ: your box's hostname is 'folishpride'???01:01
ZZzzZZ<amphi> ZZzzZZ: your box's hostname is 'folishpride'???01:01
ZZzzZZ<amphi> ZZzzZZ: your box's hostname is 'folishpride'???01:01
ZZzzZZ<amphi> ZZzzZZ: your box's hostname is 'folishpride'???01:01
ZZzzZZ<amphi> ZZzzZZ: your box's hostname is 'folishpride'???01:01
ZZzzZZYES01:01
kingspawnZZzzZZ: hush up01:01
_jasonlflashl: uncomment lines 3 and 4 that give you breezy main01:01
shredder_Best media players. Kaffeine for most applications, Amorok streaming radio, Vlc for most videos, Beep media is a great streaming radio. Just saying this in case you are interested, Forget trying to install realplayer if you are having problem with that.01:01
ZZzzZZBlow ME01:02
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gnomefreakZZzzZZ: please dont paste in here01:02
amphiscifi: once you get used to it, you'll find the scene description language is very powerful; also, as I said, there are various modelers that output files in povray format for rendering01:02
kingspawnnickrud: hm, i see. i dont know anything about this, so im just talking, but what about the apps for win32 doing this kind of taskbar-minimization?01:02
nickrudZZzzZZ, personally, I was impressed by the name :)01:02
amphiZZzzZZ: I congratulate you01:02
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B_166-ER-Xharisund,  i'm from Quebec (french speaking) and i'm sure i already burned  and  chars, but  i dont see whats my problem now01:02
mzinzchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!01:02
mzinzI'm configuring SuperKaramba and I did ./configure for it... it was working fine then I got:01:02
munzirBlissex: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Standard_Time shows there are only 8 timezones in the world, no more no less. why I can't understand!01:02
lflashldone01:02
tonyyarusso!xincludes01:02
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev01:02
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scifiamphi: i remember trying it...but i much prefer an all-in-one modeller/renderer01:02
_jasonlflashl: now apt-get update and try again01:03
harisundB_166-ER-X oh that's interesting. The 'e' was the first thought that came to my mind since that is where you got the Joliet error.01:03
mzinztonyyarusso: thanks01:03
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Blissexmunzir: thats really wrong, there are around 26.01:03
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amphiscifi: what difference does it make? the modelers can spawn povray to render the thing for you01:03
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nickrudkingspawn, the place it's minimized to is an app on the panel, not the panel itself. win32? no clue01:03
B_166-ER-Xharisund,  i'll keep you informed if i find my problem.. ;)01:03
munzirBlissex: wikipedia is wrong? or my understanding?01:03
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harisundThanks !01:03
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kingspawnnickrud: ah, i see. thanks.01:04
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lflashlnope still get the dep errors01:04
D-MannAnother question. Did anyone succed to launch .NET apps under Ubuntu?01:04
King-of-no-pantsanyone have any advice on making a script run at startup?01:04
ChristopherHello can some one please help me01:04
Blissexmunzir: the world is not just the Americas...01:04
ChristopherHow do I log on as root??01:04
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King-of-no-pantssu01:04
gnomefreakChristopher: sudo01:04
King-of-no-pantsor sudo01:04
_jasonubotu: tell Christopher about root01:04
Christopherthats01:04
amphiKing-of-no-pants: stick it /etc/init.d and use update-rc.d to create the runlevel symlinks01:04
harisundB_166-ER-X when you mentioned you have burnt CDs with file names having accented characters, did you mean in Ubuntu or in Windows?01:04
Christopher*thanks01:04
nickrudlflashl, have you posted your /etc/apt/sources.list on a pastebin anywhere?01:04
amphiChristopher: you use sudo01:05
gnomefreakKing-of-no-pants: su is not suggested to be used01:05
King-of-no-pantsamphi: i got the init.d part, but im no so sure about the update -rc.d01:05
King-of-no-pantssorry01:05
Christopherim trying to install java and it says permission denied01:05
King-of-no-pantsdidn't know that01:05
_jasonlflashl: pastebin the new errors along with your new sources on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/01:05
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B_166-ER-Xharisund,  probably on windows...although i dont see how i could have managed to burn cd /dvds for a year on ubuntu whitout having this problem01:05
gnomefreakChristopher: sudo apt-get install blah01:05
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amphiKing-of-no-pants: man update-rc.d ;)01:05
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Christopherok thanks01:05
brandon_King-of-no-pants: you can also put it in kde's Autostart directory01:05
mzinzIn gnome theres a button to 'show desktop'.  is there one in KDE?01:05
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scifiamphi: yes i remember i experimented with moray (modeller) and then rendered via povray.....altho it worked ok, it just didnt seem "right" one application opening another, it didnt feel like i had full control over pov-ray01:05
D-Mannwhat about .NET?01:05
Caminomasterkingspawn: and what can I do with files yet copied in my disc?01:06
nickrudD-Mann, that's mono in linux01:06
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kingspawnCaminomaster: excuse me?01:06
D-Manndoes it work well with ubuntu?01:06
nickrudD-Mann, well, as much as they've completed, anyway01:06
scifishame cus i actually really liked moray as a modeller01:06
lflashlsweet done01:06
amphiscifi: I never used moray - I use an editor to create pov files and run it from the cmd line, it's not hard01:06
King-of-no-pantsamphi: no manual entry for update01:06
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amphiKing-of-no-pants: update-rc.d01:06
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_jasonlflashl: and your sources?01:07
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D-Mannthanks everyone01:07
scifiamphi: but im not as clever as u, so i have to be able to "see" the model im creating and editing :)01:07
mzinzSince I just installed KDE and used to use ubuntu I have accidently still been using my gnome-terminal from inside KDE.  Should I keep using it, or konsole? Or does it matter01:07
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King-of-no-pantsamphi: no manual entry for update-, no manual entry for rc.d01:07
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kingspawnKing-of-no-pants: "man update-rc.d"01:07
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King-of-no-pantsamphi: FOUND IT!01:07
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kingspawnheh01:07
King-of-no-pantsamphi: thanks, freaking spaces01:07
amphiscifi: but I imagine modelers allow you to customise the render command line it'll use01:07
lflashlsweet01:07
gverigis there a good and dynamic way to integrate file browser with Win network (Samba). I tried Nautilus and it kinda worked but it was a nightmare01:07
amphiKing-of-no-pants: ;)01:08
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Placidowhat happened? how did I leave this channel ?01:08
kingspawngverig: merge all the windows computers to linux! ( ;) )01:08
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gnomefreakPlacido: /wc01:08
scifiamphi: maybe, im just after an easier solution :)01:08
amphiscifi: yeah, it can get hard to visualise sometimes ;)01:08
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scifiI BET!01:08
Placidognomefreak, whats /wc ?01:08
gverigkingspawn: would love to. Not an option (corporate network)01:08
gnomefreakPlacido: find the tab for it01:08
gnomefreakPlacido: you asked how to leave the channel01:09
kingspawngverig: hehe, just playing around. what kind of nightmare did you encounter?01:09
amphiscifi: I haven't seen a free 3d image generator that comes close to povray's quality01:09
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_jasonlflashl: your 3 and 4th lines are still commented01:09
gnomefreakoh did you01:09
gnomefreaknm01:09
harisund B_166-ER-X The only thing I can think of is to rename the file Secret Garden - White Stones - 02 - Poeme.mp3 to something smaller, and without an accented character and try again.01:09
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nopei hear you can use apt on fedora01:09
kingspawnPlacido: /wc means Window Close, ergo also leaving the channel01:09
scifihmmm its true there arent many free HIGH quality renderers it seems01:09
lflashlso i should do wht01:09
gnomefreaknope: ask in fedora01:09
_jasonlflashl: you need to do this: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list', then remove the # sings from lines 3 and 4, then run 'sudo apt-get update'01:10
gnomefreaksigns ;)01:10
gverigkingspawn: well, 1) it was slow as hell 2) it does not provide even a temporary mount so no other program can open these files (at least TextEdit could not) and it crashed with SIGFAULT at the end (leaving some virtual FS 128M heavy)01:10
B_166-ER-Xharisund,  i tried, but now... i dont have any idea 'WHY' but all i get is this error : :-( unable to pread64(2) primary volume descriptor: Input/output error01:10
slavikgverig: are you talking about windows?01:11
kingspawngverig: hot diggity, thats not the usual behaviour. how have you got your samba set up? everything else on the network working alright?01:11
amphiscifi: a way to start with povray might be to use something like kpovmodeler, and tweak the files it outputs and gradually get a feel for how the SDL works01:11
B_166-ER-Xharisund,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12527 as you can see here01:11
gverigslavik: I am talking about running Ubuntu and trying to access something via samba. I think server is running some kind of Unix too :)01:11
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amphiscifi: povray is really fun IMHO01:11
harisund B_166-ER-X that is likely because the DVD on which you are burning is spoilt. Try using a new DVD (and really sorry ahead of time if that goes corrupted too)01:11
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ZarephathHello fellow Ubuntians..01:12
King-of-no-pantsampho: I'm trying to do this, http://techreport.com/etc/folding/#Linux01:12
harisundB_166-ER-X That error you got is simply a bad media error.01:12
scifiamphi, for the life of me cant remember the name of this new 3d modeller i used a couple of months back, it wasnt free (trial), best modeller i ever used and they were still working on the renderer01:12
gverigkingspawn: Yeah, network is reasonably stable. I am not sure what you mean about samba setup01:12
Caminomasterkingspawn: You told me about utf8... but there are some files yet copied from a WinDisk01:12
King-of-no-pantsamphi: I'm trying to do this, http://techreport.com/etc/folding/#Linux01:12
harisundB_166-ER-X I would suggest you burn a smaller collection with the named poeme file onto some cheap CD to ensure it works. I am pretty sure it will, since the error you got is indeed a bad media error.01:12
kingspawnCaminomaster: that you havent copied over yet? or? you're not making 100% sense.01:12
B_166-ER-Xharisund,  wird, cause ubuntu stil ldetect it as a empty dvdr... nyway i'll try another one , its like my 5th one i *** today..01:13
King-of-no-pantsamphi: Everything works, except for it runing at startup01:13
kingspawngverig: well, i would think you have set up samba in some way to access windows shares01:13
amphiscifi: to my mind, a modeler should allow you to choose a rendering back end (blender does, I believe, but doesn't use povray AFAIK)01:13
lflashlworking thanks alot guys,01:13
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gverigkingspawn: generally that box is in a domain but the resource I was accessing is "free for all" access. So I was able to see it but when I clicked "open in TextEdit" it opened a program with location som smb://..., which it obviously did not understand01:13
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gverigkingspawn: ... I just installed samba, I did not set anything up01:13
harisundIt will be detected as empty even in Windows I am sure. But some of the initial sectors have been written adn so further writing becomes a problem. I would suggest you burn a cheaper CD first. And I will be back in 30 minutes or so ...01:13
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scifiamphi: yeh think blender works with povray now too, but i HATE the interface, some people luv it, it just gave me migraines lol01:14
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gverigkingspawn: if I use smbmount everything works great (I do that all the time). I just need a way to access other (rarely used) servers on the net01:14
CaminomasterKingspawn: utf8 is an option of fstab, yes?01:14
GoldDiggerDoes anyone know the compatability of ubuntu with Macbook Pros using BootCamp?01:14
scifiamphi: its in-built renderer is very powerful anyway (radiosity, hdr etc)01:14
amphiscifi: heh, I haven't messed with blender much01:14
kingspawnCaminomaster: yes01:14
kingspawngverig: ah, i see01:15
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scifiamphi: dont bother !! lol01:15
GoldDiggerand whether ubuntu uses build 2.6.16 of linux?01:15
kingspawngverig: well, quickest way out i can see is a small script that mounts up the not-so-often used shares01:15
kingspawngverig: but there might be better ways01:15
amphiscifi: dunno, it seems to have some nice stuff - didn't google contribute/sponsor some newish features? some fluid dynamics?01:15
scifiamphi: g-ma meant to be a gud modeller, but also no renderer afaik01:15
CaminomasterKingspawn: what can I do when these files are yet in my ext3 disk?01:15
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scifiyg-max*01:16
amphiscifi: give kpovmodeler a try, perhaps01:16
gverigkingspawn: yeah, I have a quick script that mounts *often* used shares. I cannot mount all rarely used machines - there are several hundreds of those :)01:16
scifig-max*01:16
kingspawnCaminomaster: do you mean they arent in your ext3 disk yet? or that they are in your ext3 and still behave weird?01:16
gverigkingspawn: Anyway, not a big deal, I did not expect this solved.01:16
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kingspawngverig: hm, i see. heh, no, its a weird problem, and i havent used a windows share in ages. at least not one like the ones you are describing.01:16
amphiscifi: the povray manual has quite an amusing example of a raytracer written in povray's SDL ;)01:16
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amphiKing-of-no-pants: what have you done?01:17
King-of-no-pantsamphi: everything in that article pertaining to linux01:17
amphiKing-of-no-pants: you created rc.local?01:17
gverigkingspawn: Although it would be nice to get some kind of smbmount plugin for nautilus, something like "mount drive" in windows. current way did not work for me (can't say that it sucks, maybe it works good in different scenarios... sucked for me though ;) )01:17
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King-of-no-pantsamphi: no01:17
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Comrade_Sergeihow can i install opensource dri drivers for my ati rage card01:18
scifiamphi: thought u meant kpovmodeler was command line, just looked at the screenshots, looks like a v.nice gui modeller01:18
amphiKing-of-no-pants: where did you add the line 'sudo -u joeblow sh -c "cd ~joeblow/folding; ./go"' ?01:18
kingspawngverig: heh, yeah, i feel you. sometimes those things just go nuts on you01:18
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amphiscifi: vim is the command line modeler ;)01:18
francolqhello, does anyone could build wine with AMD64 breezy?01:19
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amphiscifi: povray renders a bit quicker if it doesn't display its output, FWIW ;)01:19
scifiamphi: thanks for the kpovmodeler tip, may try that one sometime, have u ever used it?01:19
pipHello01:19
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scifiamphi: FWIW?01:20
amphiscifi: nope, I haven't really used any modeler01:20
pipHello,I need help01:20
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amphiscifi: "for what it's worth"01:20
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amphipip: you've come to the right place01:20
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scifiamphi: yes another thing that put me off pov-ray was the rendering times01:20
pipamphi, : ) thank you01:20
francolqanyone could install wine on AMD64?01:21
pipamphi, It is going like that ..01:21
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StarOceanhi, i have the radeon xpress 200m integrated video card and gdm doesn't work with it. is there a way for me to fix that?01:21
Comrade_Sergeihelp me how can i install opensource dri drivers for my ati rage card01:21
scifiamphi: unfortunately im using gnome, kpovmodeler only KDE?01:21
amphiscifi: tip: don't use +r8 without good reason ;)01:21
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amphiscifi: yeah, I don't know how much kde stuff it'll drag in with it, but you can run it under gnome01:22
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scifiamphi: never done ne 3d modelling in linux, only windows01:22
carlhi all.  How do I make an application automatically start when I log in?01:22
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scifiamphi: are render times any more quicker/efficient compared to windows?01:22
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CaminomasterKingspawn: Yes, I have some files from Cd or WinDisks and still so01:22
King-of-no-pantssorry01:22
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amphiscifi: dunno, haven't used povray under windows01:23
scifihehe01:23
King-of-no-pantssystem locked up, had to reboot, got an error message that said "Failed to initialize HAL"01:23
amphiscifi: I'd expect it to be a bit faster, perhaps01:23
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scifik, i better go zzzzz, nn01:24
amphiscifi: povray has a benchmark file01:24
scifiwill try it sometime01:24
King-of-no-pantsamphi: sorry, I've gotta run for now, I'll be back...01:24
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pipamphi, Yesterday ,someone borrowed my USB disk .Today ,when I used it ,there is a biny file named rose.exe in my USB disk. Then my classmate shouted at that moment and said "The rose file is a bad virus....you are so dead..."but I didnt hear of rose virus .Then  I deleted it .I wonder if the rose is really abad virus and how to kill it.01:25
dj-fuLucky ubuntu doesn't run .exe natively, huh?01:25
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Comrade_Sergeiplease respond    how can i install opensource dri drivers for my ati rage card01:25
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amphipip: I have no idea about windows viruses01:26
asdf25Comrade_Sergei: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-ati01:26
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gerenhi01:26
mzinzchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found.01:26
mzinzI get that when i try to ./configure01:27
mzinzany clue whats wrong? I'm in KDE01:27
StarOceanhi, i have the radeon xpress 200m integrated video card and gdm doesn't work with it. is there a way for me to fix that?01:27
kingspawnpip: dont you mind about .exe-viruses01:27
amphimzinz: you need the -dev packages, it would seem01:27
mzinzamphi: solution? :)01:27
pipamphi, I do not use windows OS01:27
mzinzamphi: oh01:27
Comrade_Sergeithanks01:27
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amphimzinz: install the qt dev package[s] 01:27
asdf25Comrade_Sergei: then you'll have to change /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use "ati" as the driver01:27
pipamphi, I am using ubuntu. so it doesnt matter01:27
amphipip: so no worries then01:27
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SGT_ANDERSONshow01:28
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amphipip: "you are so not dead" ;)01:28
PwcrLinuxpip: it's val day hits on the day then spreads out.. nothing worry about linux, can't do with a exe files..01:28
pipamphi, Thank you . i was waiting for your words of that...01:28
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mzinzHow do I install themes in KDE?01:28
Comrade_Sergeiasdf25 help srecifically01:28
pipPwcrLinux, Thank you very much.I love linux more and more01:29
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asdf25Comrade_Sergei: alright... you already have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file... there will be some Device sections... you need to change the "Driver" setting in one of those to "ati"01:30
Comrade_Sergeihow tho01:30
asdf25sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:30
amphipip: how long have you been using linux?01:30
gerenis anyone familar with this distro: http://www.redflag-linux.com/chanpin/dt5/01:30
Comrade_Sergeidid that do it?01:31
amphigeren: heard of it, .cn state distro, no?01:31
gerenyea it is01:31
gereni believe01:31
asdf25that should have opened a text editor that will let you edit xorg.conf01:31
asdf25you can search for Driver01:31
Comrade_Sergeiyea01:32
asdf25and if you set Driver to "ati" everywhere01:32
asdf25i think that will work01:32
Comrade_Sergeium im a noob how?01:32
asdf25assuming the "ati" driver works with your video card, and i think it does01:32
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DVSoftwareComrade_Sergei,01:32
DVSoftwaredon't01:32
mzinzHow do I install themes in KDE?01:32
Comrade_Sergeiwhat?01:33
DVSoftwarethere is Driver section for keyboard, mouse, etc...01:33
asdf25is there some program that will autogen a good xorg.conf?01:33
asdf25heheh, right01:33
DVSoftwareyou need to change just for graphics card01:33
amphiComrade_Sergei: you could just use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to select the driver01:33
DVSoftwarelook for01:33
ompaulasdf25, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:33
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asdf25ohh right, thanks01:33
DVSoftwareDriver "vga" or Driver "vesa"01:33
asdf25Comrade_Sergie: run that, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and go through the menu01:33
DVSoftwarelook for that01:34
DVSoftwareor dpkg way is better01:34
asdf25Comrade_Sergie: there might be some stuff like monitor sync values and such... you can probably go with the defaults, or guess something and it'll work01:34
DVSoftwaredon't guess monitor values01:34
asdf25just be sure to choose "ati" as the driver01:34
asdf25is it dangerous to guess really low settings?01:35
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DVSoftwareit can be dangerous to guess anything monitor doesn't support01:35
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keleusAnyone else having trouble getting flash working on dapper?01:35
amphiDVSoftware: not with modern monitors01:35
Comrade_Sergeiok i went through it01:35
asdf25yeah... well the menu has choices like 1280x1024@60hz, that should work with just about anything i think01:35
Comrade_Sergeitry wine now01:35
keleusit appears the file SUPPOSED to be on macromedias server is gone...01:35
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keleusso the installer dies01:36
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keleustrying to get the installer from macromedia gets me a DNS error01:36
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asdf25Comrade_Sergie: you need to restart X too... i think you can just Log Out in the System menu and that will do it01:36
pipamphi, Not long ,one month01:36
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lambrechtsHey, whats the release date for Dapper Stable>01:36
lambrechts?01:36
amphipip: congratulations on your defenestration ;)01:36
mzinzwhats amaroK01:37
amphilambrechts: WIR01:37
Comrade_Sergeiasdf25 so what now relogon?01:37
asdf25Comrade_Sergie: and if X won't start you'll have to run that dpkg-configure again and choose settings that somehow do work, heh... it should work though01:37
PwcrLinuxlambrechts: June 1st01:37
asdf25yeah01:37
harisundB_166-ER-X are you there? Any luck?01:37
keleuscan anyone else reach this file:01:37
pipamphi, what do you mean ?01:37
keleushttp://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz01:37
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amphipip: your escape from windows to a happier world01:37
_jasonkeleus: seems to download01:37
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keleushmmm01:38
harisundkeleus: Why would you want to use that anyway?01:38
keleusim getting a host not found01:38
keleusentertainment value ;)01:38
DVSoftwarenot found01:38
pipamphi, Yes ,thank you al ot ,I think so .windows is a rubbish.01:38
DVSoftwareand flash is crap01:38
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_jasonkeleus: I can dcc if you want01:38
PwcrLinuxpip: Yep, bulldozing the windows down lol01:38
keleus_jason: could you just give me the IP that you resolved from fpdownload.macromedia.com instead? behind a firewall01:38
lflashlhow do i get gui for mplayer just did apt-get on it01:39
pipPwcrLinux, I will01:39
DVSoftwaregmplayer01:39
keleusgmplayer01:39
B_166-ER-Xharisund,  still not, 6 dvd ****ed,  trying with a Cd-rw now ;) its erasing... I'll keep you updated01:39
amphilflashl: the gui is horrid IMHO01:39
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_jasonkeleus: hmm what would be the proper way to do that?01:40
harisundB_166-ER-X Ok. Just make sure that file name is changed.01:40
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keleus_jason: man nslookup01:40
keleusVERY handy tool01:40
nopeanyone ever burn an .iso file in ubuntu01:40
keleuseven works in windows believe it or not01:40
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amphi_jason: better man host01:41
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keleus_jason, i found it though. tried a different nameserver and it worked01:41
Yorgosanyone know any chan to ask sth about a psybnc?01:41
Comrade_Sergeinope it didnt work01:41
_jasonkeleus: see problem is I tried that and it gave me 72.246.126.70, but then i tried downloading with that and didn't work :)01:41
PwcrLinuxnope: for burn on CDRW or R, uses the burn speed at 4x01:41
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keleushrm01:41
pipamphi, So perfect design of linux .Really so great ,I haven't installed any Anti-virus software any more.01:41
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keleusi guess i could try fpdownload-marc.wip3.adobe.com01:41
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nopePwcrLinux, why so slow01:41
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asdf25nope: uh yes... i think you can do it through the GNOME right-click menu on the iso file01:42
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pipamphi, False alarm : ) But what kind of virus is really bad to linux?01:42
keleushmmm01:42
keleusThe requested URL "/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz", is invalid.01:42
Comrade_Sergeiasdf25 run me through that gu01:42
Comrade_Sergeii01:42
keleusseems i found some server breakage01:42
Yorgoslet me ask again01:42
Yorgosanyone know any chan to ask sth about a psybnc?01:42
PwcrLinuxnope: cuz of stable to run it..  any more than 4x could have "output" messed up installs..01:42
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keleusgot it!01:43
KillazI'm getting this error/warning during the installation of ubuntu: Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/ide/host0/target0/lun0/part1 - Device or resource busy01:43
amphipip: there are ELF-infectors, but mostly research ones - 'cheating the ELF' is one quite interesting paper01:43
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keleusfpdownload.macromedia.com.edgekey.net/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz01:43
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asdf25Comrade_Sergei: did X work after the dpkg-reconfigure menu thing?01:43
nopewhat are pros cons of redhatfedora vs ubuntu01:43
Comrade_Sergeiwine u mean then no01:44
Comrade_Sergeiwhats that dkpg command again?01:44
asdf25hm well lots of things can go wrong trying to run wine...01:44
asdf25to see if you have DRI working though, run glxinfo01:44
Comrade_Sergeiill run through it with you help this time01:44
mwenope: the feeling of not being a beta tester for redhat is one01:44
nickrudnope, that's a question of #ubuntu-offtopic, really01:44
asdf25and hopefully it will say "direct rendering: Yes"01:44
DVSoftwareasdf25, he don't have it01:44
Comrade_SergeilibGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2401:44
nopecan apt work with redhat i heard it does01:45
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amphipip: also see http://vx.netlux.org/lib/?lang=EN&index=UN#vsc0301:45
keleusweird01:45
keleusnow its not working01:45
keleuswell i got it.01:45
lflashlis there a command for a getting mplayer skins with apt-get01:45
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pipamphi, Thank you01:46
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asdf25huh... i'm not sure, haven't done that in a while, maybe there's some other package you need to install or something...01:46
mwelflashl: sudo apt-get install mplayer-skins01:46
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mzuverinkhow do I get thunderbird to open links in firefox?01:46
Comrade_Sergeiasdf25 whats the command again01:46
sorush20guys can I not run dapper packages on breezy?01:46
Killazafter this warning/error (I click on ignore). it starts creating partition for / ext3. After this I get an red screen telling me that the creation of ext3 in partition #1 failed01:46
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asdf25Comrade_Sergie: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:47
amphipip: in practice, there seems little or no virus problem for linux at the moment01:47
nickrudsorush20, some01:47
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mzuverinkKillaz: I had that error too, I fixed it by choosing to format that partition.  I bet you forgot to format it or chose not too.01:47
asdf25the main thing should just be to choose "ati" for the driver01:47
sorush20how about the amarok beta version nickrud01:47
asdf25and go with the defaults for a lot of the rest01:48
pipamphi, Good news to me : )01:48
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Comrade_Sergeiasdf25 can you go to #asdf2501:48
nickrudsorush20, depends on if the beta amarok will run with the kde libs in breezy. I don't use kde, so I don't know myself01:48
root_hi i m a new user on ubuntu i just got sucess in connecting net01:48
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Killazmzuverink: ok lemme see01:48
kingspawnroot_: are you accessing irc from your root-account?01:49
harisundroot_ And I have a bad feeling you are running as root.01:49
harisundkingspawn my thoughts exactly :D01:49
root_so can any one tell me how to get all the packages??01:49
kingspawnharisund: great minds.. :)01:49
harisundlol01:49
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nickrud!tell root_ about repos01:49
amphi!tell root_ about root01:49
mweroot_: don't irc as root.01:49
nickrudroot_, you just got a pm, it'll tell you how to enable access to the full range of applications01:50
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root_ok i m loging wid my account01:50
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nickrudroot_, they're tweaking you, but it's true :)01:50
kingspawnroot_: good :)01:50
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=== cyphase imageine Ubuntu branded keyboards and mice
cyphaseimagines*01:54
sorush20when I try to install I keep getting the message that it will break I don't know what to do>.01:54
mambotechguy's I am trying to install ssh ....from a command line ...but I don't seem to be able to get root access using sudo01:54
cyphasean Ubuntu key instead of a Windows key01:54
manish__hi can any one help me to install all packages01:54
cyphase:P01:54
kingspawnmambotech: whats the error?01:54
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tritiummambotech: sudo apt-get install openssh-server doesn't work?01:54
paul_after you install the macromedia flash player and you can see it in /usr/lib ... what is tyhe final step tp make mozilla beable to see java pages01:54
mwemanish__: don't01:54
manish__i  m new user01:54
naliothubotu: tell paul_ about javadebs01:55
mambotechlet me try01:55
manish__just get connected to net01:55
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mwemanish__: you don't want everything. you can't even install everything as some things will conflict01:55
cyphasemanish__, why do you want to install all packages?01:55
lflashlhow do i install skins for mplayer?01:55
mambotechmark@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install openssh-server01:55
mambotechE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:55
mambotechE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?01:55
mambotechmark@ubuntu:~$01:55
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mwelflashl: i told you01:55
kingspawnmambotech: have you got synaptic open?01:55
tritiummambotech: are you running synaptic?01:55
mzuverinkKillaz: that work?01:55
mwelflashl: sudo apt-get install mplayer-skins01:55
mambotechah yes soory01:55
manish__bcoz i dont have any thing only base backages01:56
kingspawnmambotech: just close it and try again01:56
tritiummambotech: please close it01:56
paul_java is installed and mozilla-flashplayer but doesnt seem to work01:56
_jason!info mplayer-skins01:56
pipamphi, Hello,another question.My hard disk contains 40.0G when I bought,but why does it show 37.62G in linux Disk manager programme?01:56
mambotech:)01:56
_jasonmwe: I can't find that package01:56
mambotechThanks guys01:56
mwemanish__: trust me you don't want everything01:56
kingspawnpip: no disk ever bought hold the exact amount promised01:56
crimsunpip: 1/10th is reserved for superuser in case of emergency, i.e., silly user fills all available HD space.01:56
_jasonlflashl: I just go to the mplayer site and copy them to ~/.mplayer/Skin/01:57
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amphipip: heh, because the manufacturers use decimal gigabytes, and linux is reporting in binary gigabytes (gibibytes)01:57
mwe!info mplayer-skins01:57
vinboyhas anyone install ubuntu on a MiniMac yet?01:57
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manish__i didnt even have pluggins for media01:57
manish__so how to install the pluggins??01:57
mweI guess it only exists for dapper01:57
_jasonmwe: appears to be new in dapper01:57
pipamphi, so does it ,okay01:57
amphipip: it annoys me too01:57
lflashl_jason, do i need to ext them or just copy the file over01:58
pipamphi, lol01:58
_jasonlflashl: extract01:58
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manish__plz reply mwe01:58
manish__i dont even have K3b01:58
mzuverinkHow do I make thunderbird open links in firefox?01:58
manish__so plz any one help me out..01:58
mwemanish__: sudo apt-get install k3b01:58
mambotechkingprawns:how would I use sudo to tail a log file01:58
harisundIs there any way I can change gnome's wm from metacity to sawfish? Or is metacity itself better?01:59
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spikebis there any way to remove dependencies once the package that depended on said packages is removed?01:59
mweharisund: I think it's possible. I'm not sure how or if it's recommended01:59
c172spikeb: probably not... there could be lots of packages that aren't needed by other packages but that you want to have02:00
amphispikeb: deborphan02:00
manish__hellooo...... any one there??02:00
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amphimanish__: no02:00
mwedebfoster02:00
nickrudspikeb, debfoster02:00
spikebok02:00
c172or maybe ubuntu can do that :)02:00
pipcrimsun, OKay,thank you02:00
c172if only it could connect to the internet02:00
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mweit can02:01
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mwe;)02:01
starscalling!azureus02:01
ubotuI guess azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo02:01
c172yeah, it can do lots of things if you write half the code for them02:02
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nickrudc172, nah, only configs.02:02
c172it can also claim that a network card is working, and yet fail to use it for unknown reasons02:02
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amphic172: routing problem?02:03
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c172nothing's changed... it just stopped working02:03
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c172I have the connection plugged into a linksys router now with the same settings, and that's how I got here02:03
lflashl_jason, wht the ext place i made a dir called skin and i cant seem to change over to my new skin02:03
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c172I think I need to make the interface RUNNING.. whatever that means02:04
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amphic172: is it up?02:04
c172I have UP, BROADCAST, and MULTICAST02:05
c172and all the IP stuff is right02:05
mwec172: default gateway set?02:05
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c172it was, but now I have to run it through another router02:06
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TennesseeIf I munge up my boot process so that I can't boot into X, is there any way during the boot process that I can boot to a terminal instead?02:06
_jasonlflashl: sorry I don't understand your question02:06
c172if there was something wrong with the network card would there be any way to find out from linux?02:06
asdf25Tennessee: choose "recovery mode" in the GRUB boot menu02:06
_jasonlflashl: it should be Skin with a capital S02:07
gymsmokeevening, all...02:07
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gymsmokeI'm going back through my server setup for a co-lo box to run mail, dns, web... I'm looking for suggestions here02:07
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mwec172: network cards can broken so that they just don't transmit packages and are still recognized. that would be impossible to detect other than it doesn't function02:08
gymsmokeI'll have the base install along with openssh-server installed as a minimum... (why openssh isn't installed as part of a server I'll never know)02:08
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TennesseeI've had problems before with recovery mode not working correctly. It still boots a modified X, and some things require that X services be entirely stopped. At the time I was able to run 'init 3', but this no longer works.02:09
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mwegymsmoke: did we agree on this yesterday, or was that someone else?02:09
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gymsmokemwe: nah - it was me.... I got everything done and installed a POS panel whch totally hosed me...02:09
manish__can u tell me how to install packages from synaptic?/02:09
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nickrudTennessee, recovery mode should drop you to a terminal as root (and init 2-5 are identical in ubuntu, no redhatisms here)02:10
_jasonubotu: tell manish__ about synaptic02:10
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mweoh02:10
gymsmokemanish__: uh - select the package, install it02:10
mweheh02:10
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manish__but i didnt have the package i m searching02:10
gymsmokemwe: yep, learned a valuable lesson...02:10
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_jasonmanish__: what package?02:10
gymsmokemanish__: change your apt sources02:10
manish__K3b02:10
_jason!info k3b02:10
ubotuk3b: (A sophisticated KDE cd burning application), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.12.2-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 3658 kB, Installed size: 7880 kB02:11
_jasonmanish__: have you enabled the main repository?02:11
mwemanish__: if it's not available your sources.list is probably broken02:11
gymsmokemwe: if you don't know something in Linux, LEARN ABOUT IT -- instead of getting a "front end" to do it for you02:11
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manish__no i dont know02:11
manish__how to enable02:11
_jasonubotu: tell manish__ about repos02:11
c172haha, I like how everything in linux is "sophisticated" and "commercial-quality"02:11
nickrudor don't use pos front ends02:11
gymsmoke_jason: beat me02:11
_jasongymsmoke: you can get the next one :)02:11
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Tennesseenickrud: Will gdm stop drop you out of X entirely?02:12
nickrudTennessee, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop does, yes02:12
manish__plz reply..02:12
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mwegymsmoke: well that's how I do it, trying to learn how things work02:12
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TennesseeI wanted to get to the point where I could tinker with my X configuration, and then restart X with a new config without rebooting.02:12
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gymsmokemwe: yep - never again...02:12
_jasonmanish__: check your private messages from ubotu02:12
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Tennesseenickrud: I was still used to the 'init 3' idiom, and it all caught me by surprise. It seems like one of the weirdest things about ubuntu,  but I guess I can just learn a new way.02:13
gymsmokemwe: I'm installing the base system and openssh-server (again), then I'm getting the network engineer at our NOC to give me a crash course in setting up bind902:13
amphiTennessee: don't use a ?dm02:13
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mwegymsmoke: yeah02:13
nickrudTennessee, the assumption is, if you install a ?dm, you probably actually want to use it :)02:13
manish__can any one tell me plz02:13
_jasonmanish__: what irc client are you using?02:14
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mweTennessee: runlevels 2,3,4,5 are identical by default I think02:14
bwlanggymsmoke: i think tinydns is easier to manage...02:14
amphic172: what do you mean?02:14
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nickrudmwe, Tennessee identical except for the number of virtual consoles02:14
Tennesseenickrud: I do 90% of the time, but I have the need to tinker without it sometimes. Such as when I break it really badly and need to fix it.02:14
manish__mwe plz reply02:14
mwemanish__: what?02:15
amphiTennessee: keep a backup of a working config, perhaps02:15
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gymsmokemwe: for mail, i'm still looking at postfix, although our other server runs qmail/vpop and I have no complaints there02:15
mwemanish__: go to pastebin.com and paste /etc/apt/sources.list and paste the url here02:15
Tennesseegtg02:15
Tennesseethankx all02:15
mwegymsmoke: qmail rocks though the author is an arrogant bastard02:16
mwegymsmoke: personally I'd prefer it for security reasons though02:16
gymsmokemwe: that's true... but i read through a bunch of benchmarks, and for a small server like this one (less than 1,000 email transactions), it smokes qmail in terms of performance.02:17
mwegymsmoke: maybe02:17
gymsmokemwe: that's one thing that i have no complaints about with qmail/vpop - the security is quite good02:17
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c172amphi: they complain about buzzwords, but as soon as something has 5 features it's sophisticated, even if it takes 5 hours to configure02:17
gymsmokemwe: but I've also read that postfix+sasl+tls+ssl measures up quite well, too02:17
amphic172: sorry, who do?02:18
c172read any forum with lots of open-source developers02:18
mwegymsmoke: I think postfix can be plenty secure as well, yes02:18
c172I try not to, but I still remember them02:18
lflashlhow do i make mplayer open just the once.02:19
amphic172: 5 features? that's not sophisticated, that's bloated ;)02:19
nickrudrflol02:19
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mwelflashl: explain02:19
gymsmokebwlang: i've had my fill of "magic pills" on Linux... when I first started using Unix (around 78), everything was command line and the permutated index... I just don't see any reason to change from that, based on my last 6 months experience of getting re-acquainted with the environment02:19
amphilflashl: only type it once02:19
Xenguy.oO(some cheese with the whine?)02:19
c172well it doesn't really matter if no one can figure them out02:19
marcin`hi guys02:19
gymsmokemwe:yeah  i've found some good reading on securing postfix...02:19
marcin`could someone tell me if ubuntu supports *.otf fonts?02:20
amphigymsmoke: gnu screen is _the_ window manager ;)02:20
lflashlum when i playing a song and i click on another song it opens a new mplayer i just want to run them all in the one02:20
nickrudmarcin`, yes02:20
marcin`and if it does then how should I install them?02:20
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gymsmokeamphi: that's a new one for me02:20
nickrudmarcin`, drop the font in ~/.fonts or /usr/share/fonts02:20
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marcin`nickrud: doesn't work unfortunately :(02:20
amphigymsmoke: gnu screen? it'll change your life ;) it's a terminal multiplexor02:21
nickrudmarcin`, can you point me at the font?02:21
mwegymsmoke: when you get experienced, administrating from the cli can be very efficient02:21
marcin`nickrud: well it's commercial from linotype - helvetica neue02:21
gymsmokeamphi: anything like using function keys to change terminals?02:21
lflashldoes anyone understand me02:21
marcin`nickrud: I cannot publish this font02:21
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Xenguygymsmoke: if you like console/command-line, screen is the only way to fly02:21
nickrudmarcels, oh. :)02:21
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kingspawngymsmoke: true terminals, or terminals in gui?02:21
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dj-fuirssi + screen = the winner02:22
mwegymsmoke: and if you already have experience with unix ...02:22
nickrudmarcin`, no problem on that front02:22
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mambotechguy's can streamtuner stream tv02:22
kingspawndj-fu: right on02:22
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gymsmokemwe: yeah - i started out with System 7 ... (too far back for alot of folks)02:22
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marcin`nickrud: hmm I'll try to restart fontconfig or maybe just system...02:22
hawk_wolfEh yo, anybody know if I can install yahoo messenger for debian on ubuntu?02:22
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amphigymsmoke: see http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/02:23
connhi, in gstreamer-properties I set video output to "XWindows (No Xv)", but when I play a movie in fullscreen with totem it's slow and pixellated. Does anyone know how I can make it look better? mplayer -vo x11 at fullscreen works perfectly but not totem...02:23
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nickrudmarcin`, try sudo fc-cache02:23
no0ticwhy mysql-server shipped with ubuntu has a debian-sys-maint user?02:23
gymsmokeamphi: i'm reading through that now02:23
Seqdoes anybody happen to be using mail-notification AND the laptop temperature monitor applet? I'm curious how to have both working at the same time as they overwrite the same gconf file02:23
kingspawnconn: rule 1) never use totem :)02:23
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dj-fuhawk_wolf: debian and Ubuntu are not the same - you are probably looking for the package "gaim" - apt-get install aim02:23
mwegymsmoke: I can't say I used *nix back then but a lot of what you learned back then must still be useful02:23
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amphidj-fu: yeah, handy for moving irssi between console and X ;)02:24
kingspawnconn: totem seems to be just some crazy hack, completely useless02:24
marcin`nickrud: it worked big thanks :)02:24
dj-fuamphi: definitely, couple it with a psybnc and you're sussed ;)02:24
nickrudmarcin`, yw02:24
hawk_wolfdj-fu Yeah but I wanted yahoo, not aol.02:24
no0ticwhat mysql-server shipped with ubuntu has a debian-sys-maint user?02:24
spikebhawk_wolf, gaim handles multiple protocols02:24
gymsmokemwe: yeah - i was away from it for about 10 years, since the contracts i was on wanted M$ environments, but I was surprised to see how little had changed...02:24
dj-fuhawk_wolf: gaim isn't just AOL, it's msn, jabber, gadugadu, gtalk, loads of protocols.02:25
dj-fuincluding Yahoo, too - afaik02:25
no0ticwhat's the role of the debian-sys-mantain user in mysql-server shipped with ubuntu?02:25
amphigymsmoke: heh02:25
connkingspawn: I tried totem-xine, same prob02:25
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gymsmokemwe: I remember X11 when it was in it's infancy, and Motif widgets was _the_ way to program for X02:25
amphigymsmoke: there's always plan 9...02:25
hawk_wolfoh yeah, forgot, its been awhile since I've had a linux box online02:25
dj-fulol, motif02:25
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spikebheh gymsmoke to thi sday i still like CDE02:25
hawk_wolfthanks guys, I'm now installing gaim.02:25
jonathan_does anyone in here use sata raid ?02:25
kingspawnconn: use vlc02:26
nickrudno0tic, it's purpose is to have a user that the debian maintainer can use for manipulating your system.02:26
mwegymsmoke: I read in one of my dad's books "The UNIX Handbook" or something like that. most if it seemed valid with no or few modifications02:26
mwegymsmoke: heh02:26
gymsmokeamphi: I liked the look of plan9... I also liked the concept of the Panda server... too bad that one never took hold02:26
no0ticnickrud, it has a password but I haven't set one...02:26
amphigymsmoke: panda server? do you have a url? FWIW, plan 9 runs well under qemu on linux02:26
connkingspawn: nope, same problem.. mplayer is the only one that works02:26
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gymsmokemwe: I still have some of the original documentation from the early 70's... K&R books on C, Stevens Unix program guides, etc..02:26
kingspawnconn: probably a codec problem, then. have you installed everything you need?02:27
spikebi wish somebody would make a cde clone with lesstif :)02:27
nickrudno0tic, that's all I remember from my usage of mysql a couple of years ago or so ....02:27
connnot a codec problem, it's the wrong video output, maybe xshm.. the video is pixellated with totem/vlc uisng the X11 output02:27
conn*using02:27
no0ticnickrud, thanks anyway ;)02:27
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gymsmokeamphi:panda was a hardware/software solution slated for academic environments - a quad cpu based SUN with all the bells and whistles... bleeding edge everything, including the first plasma displays... back in about 84 it cost $11,000 (USD)02:28
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rikaiAnyonne happen to know how to allow two users to use one computer running ubuntu simeltaneously without using some sort of thinclient?02:28
nickrudno0tic, do a google on debian-devel debian-sys-mantain ; that'll probably pull up the discussion of when it was implemented02:28
Jean-Lucamphi: Hey, its King-of-no-pants.  Sorry I ran out, couldn't avoit it.02:28
amphigymsmoke: ah... I came across a dual ultrasparc laptop on the web a while back, probably costs about the same02:29
amphiJean-Luc: no worries02:29
rikaimainly, since i dont have anything that supports pxe02:29
Jean-Lucamphi: do you care if I /msg you?02:29
amphiJean-Luc: msg away02:29
gymsmokemwe: anyway, the basics i'm ok with at this point... apache2, mysql/php 4 (love to take a shot at 5 but have been warned about that on a production box), bind9...02:29
amphiJean-Luc: but it won't work, because you are not 'identified to services'02:30
Jean-Lucamphi: I just found that out02:30
gymsmokeamphi:about 6 years ago I got offered a Sparc/41 from a military friend of mine for $500 (USD)02:30
mwegymsmoke: yeah02:30
jonathan_does anyone in here use sata raid ?02:30
Jean-Lucamphi: I'm gonna wait 'till I can use King-of-no-pants again, until i register it02:30
nickrudno0tic, as well, take a look at /usr/share/doc/mysql-server , there's bound to be an explanation there as well02:30
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gymsmokemwe: so mail is still a bit of a question, although, like i say, i can go either way - postfix or qmail/vpop ...02:30
Jean-Lucamphi: my ubuntu has been crashing all the time lately02:31
amphiJean-Luc: you prefer 'King-of-no-pants'??02:31
Jean-Lucamphi: yes02:31
gymsmokemwe: my only requirement for mail is that i can send and receive from my ubuntu workstation in my office, which is on a different server... smtp-relay (i believe that's the correct term)02:31
no0ticnickrud, tranks a lot02:31
mwegymsmoke: well if you wanna be "political", postfix. also if you read it performs better on smaller sites02:31
amphiJean-Luc: why is ubuntu crashing? what are the symptoms? X hangs?02:32
gymsmokeamphi: ever heard of "futurebus" ?02:32
Jean-Lucamphi: I installed it yesterday, on a system i got for free02:32
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nickrudno0tic, thank me if the suggestions I had helped :)02:32
amphigymsmoke: no02:32
Jean-Lucamphi: well, Im trying to figure that out02:32
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trainstrokerim back XD02:32
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amphiJean-Luc: what does it do when it 'crashes'?02:32
bliss1_hi02:32
amphitrainstroker: hurrah!02:32
trainstrokercan i create a shortcut to an ntfs partition02:32
Jean-Lucamphi: The first crash was a random restart, then it flashed black and went into command line interface, it did that a few times, now its just "freezing"02:32
trainstrokeri read some02:32
trainstrokeractually alot02:32
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gymsmokeamphi: built on the NIST 501C model, Siemens made this box that had a baseboard that used modular plugins for _all_hardware, including power supplies, cpus, fpus, comm, everything...02:33
B_166-ER-Xharisund,  tried with a cdr...  same error a bad CHAR somewhere... i searched for the file, but didnt find it... so i just used the 'force the input charset' k3b option...and it worked... i am about to try this with a dvd in a few seconds02:33
Jean-Lucamphi: So far I'v used NDISWRAPPER to get my WAN card working, and I've been folling around with Folding at Home today02:33
bliss1_how much mem is this  is it 655mb ?mem=6553602:33
Phlosten64MB?02:33
gymsmokeamphi: when you looked at the box, it looked like a clear acrylic board with a bunch of slots in it...02:33
amphiJean-Luc: has it been crashing since you started folding@home?02:33
Jean-Lucamphi: no02:34
gymsmokebliss1_: no02:34
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gymsmokebliss1_: the 2nd one is 65k02:34
no0ticnickrud, found the answer, thanks ;)02:34
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bliss1_Pholsten: thanks02:34
mwe64K02:34
mwe64*1024 isn't it?02:34
trainstrokercan i create a shortcut to an ntfs partition02:34
Jean-Lucamphi: Folding at home isn't even running, since I haven't gotten it to run at startup yet.02:34
Phlosteni was assuming that the 65536 was kb02:34
Jean-Lucamphi: But thats a project to do after I can get a stable system02:34
Phlosten:)02:34
FlannelKing!ntfs @ trainstroker02:35
ubotuFlannelKing: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:35
FlannelKingpsh02:35
FlannelKing!ntfs02:35
trainstroker!ntfs02:35
ubotumethinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions02:35
Jean-Lucamphi: I replaced the CMOS battery today after advice from someone in this room02:35
amphiJean-Luc: perhaps your ram is flakey? you could run memtest8602:35
Jean-Lucamphi: it might be02:35
gymsmoke65Mb = 670720k02:35
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Jean-Lucamphi: is memtest86 installed with Ubuntu?02:36
amphiJean-Luc: if some addresses consistently give errors, there's a kernel patch that lets you tell the kernel not to use those addresses02:36
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mambotechhow do you play a .asx02:36
Jean-Lucamphi: neato, how would I find that out?02:36
_jasonmambotech: mplayer with w32codecs works02:36
amphiJean-Luc: you can install it, it should appear on grub's boot menu02:36
amphiJean-Luc: memtest86 will tell you02:36
mambotechOK02:36
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gymsmokemwe: i may have to try out screen... this looks interesting...02:36
_jasonubotu: tell mambotech about mplayer02:36
mwegymsmoke: I love it02:36
_jasonubotu: tell mambotech about w32codecs02:36
lflashlwho do i change the sittings for mplayer to only open up once02:37
amphiJean-Luc: you could also try running the processor a bit slower if the ram is marginal02:37
Jean-Lucamphi: okay, I'm gonna have to get the computer going, its in my basement, and I'm upstairs now.  I'll be back in a minute after I get memtest going02:37
mwegymsmoke: it can even stay alive without a vt02:37
Jean-Lucamphi: the processor is 400Mhz02:37
Jean-Lucamphi: I don't want to run that slower02:37
nickrudlflashl, what do you mean, open only once. It only opens once here02:37
amphiJean-Luc: 350MHz is enough for anyone ;)02:37
mwegymsmoke: and you don't have to spam countless vts02:37
Jean-Lucamphi: Phoo!02:37
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gymsmokemwe: yeah - i need to give that a shot once my box is back...02:38
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Jean-Lucamphi: The ram may be bad, im gonna go run memtest, and get back to you02:38
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amphiJean-Luc: you could also try running in console mode with no X running, and see if it still crashes; but spontaneous reboot sounds like ram02:38
me2winhey, is there a way to get rid of the icons of mounted devices from the desktop?02:38
gymsmokemwe: i uninstalled that stupid panel and now i can't sync any of my apt sources... so i'm gonna just re-install02:38
Jean-Lucamphi: I've only had one spontaneous reboot02:38
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lflashlyea but if i click on a new video/song with it open it will not open it in the current mplayer thats open02:38
mwegymsmoke: oh02:39
amphiJean-Luc: cosmic ray flipping a few bits? ;)02:39
Jean-Lucamphi: I've had most often, the flash right into console mode02:39
_jason!volumes_vis02:39
ubotuTo remove devices from displaying on your gnome desktop open Gconf (applications > system tools > configuration editor) and uncheck /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible02:39
gymsmokemwe: that's why i'm done with "magic pills" ... old school works much better02:39
amphiJean-Luc: that sounds like X crashing - what video card is it?02:39
Jean-Lucamphi: ATI 3dRage IIc02:39
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mwegymsmoke: yeah. it pays off in the end I think02:39
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trainstrokerwhen i try to access ntfs partition i get :You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "sda2"02:40
Comrade_Sergeiit crashed linux02:40
Jean-Lucamphi: I have a Geforce2 Lying around here, should I swap it?02:40
nickrudI'll never remember volumes_vis02:40
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mwetrainstroker: mount it differently, read !ntfs02:40
Comrade_Sergeiwhen did he leave02:40
trainstroker!ntfs02:40
ubotuI heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions02:40
trainstrokeri did02:40
Comrade_Sergeiasdf25 of course02:40
amphiJean-Luc: you could try - you'll need to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:40
_jasonubotu: tell trainstroker about ntfs02:40
Jean-Lucamphi: I've always liked Nvidia's linux support...02:40
lflashland the answer is wht02:40
gymsmokemwe: me, too.  i'd rather install each piece, config it, test it, and move on, than have one app that "does it all" and "borks it all"02:40
Jean-Lucamphi: eew02:40
Jean-Lucamphi: what do you mean by that?02:41
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_jasontrainstroker: on the wiki page, there is a table towards the middle of the page that explains how to change permissions in fstab02:41
mwegymsmoke: yeah. well gotta go, good luck02:41
amphiJean-Luc: I have an old radeon that's supported by xorg driver - proprietary drivers are t3h 3vi1 ;)02:41
_jasonnickrud: change volumes_vis, I couldn't think of anything better02:41
gymsmokemwe: yeah, i need to get some food... later02:41
FlannelKingHmm.  What's the difference between checking ntpdate in services as opposed to going to time and date and doing it?02:41
gymsmokelater, all02:41
nickruduseful factoid though02:41
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Jean-Lucamphi: do I just boot into console mode and type in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?02:42
amphiJean-Luc: reconfigure xorg to use the appropriate driver for that card02:42
amphiJean-Luc: with sudo prepended02:42
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Jean-Lucamphi: for what card?02:42
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nickrudhidevisible ?  hide_user_mountable :)02:42
amphiJean-Luc: the nvidia one02:42
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RugHowdy all02:42
Jean-Lucamphi: ok, what do you want me to do after I put in the nvidia card?02:42
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amphiJean-Luc: sit back and enjoy a cigar ;)02:43
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Jean-Lucamphi: sounds good, what about when I've finished the cigar?02:43
Versedgreat idea, gonna take my dog for a walk and have a partagas luisatania02:43
amphiJean-Luc: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose a suitable driver, 'nv' perhaps, dunno02:44
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amphiVersed: ;)02:44
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mzinzHow can i make a program come up when i log on in KDE?02:44
Versedgood choice amphi?02:44
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keleusanyone want to test my little web page?02:44
amphiVersed: no idea, sounds good though02:45
Rugsure shoot02:45
keleusmostly want to make sure my embedding works02:45
Versedok02:45
keleushttp://keleus.freeshell.org/fly.xhtml     be gentle, i get 50mbps/day02:45
keleusflash though02:45
Jean-Lucamphi: alright, im gonna switch computers, I'll be back on in a minute on a laptop next to the linux machine02:46
amphikeleus: looks nice in w3m ;)02:46
Rugok in, what do you want me to check?02:46
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trainstrokerwhats the termal command for write02:46
Rugvery nice...02:46
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amphitrainstroker: 'write'?02:46
FlannelKingtrainstroker: write what?02:46
keleusamphi, cool, so it just gave you the filename right?02:47
amphitrainstroker: nano is a simple text editor if that's what you mean02:47
keleusalso consider pico02:47
amphikeleus: '304212_Shoo_Fly.swf'02:47
keleusawsome.02:47
keleuscheck the source :P02:47
trainstrokeri have 25 gigs of music on my ntfs partition. i want to access it on linux but i wanna make a shortcut (link?)02:47
amphitrainstroker: or mcedit02:47
_jasonkeleus: that's awesome02:47
amphitrainstroker: man ln02:47
trainstrokerit tells my that i dont have write privelleges02:47
keleusof course I didn't do the animation02:47
_jasonoh02:48
FlannelKingtrainstroker: thats because linux can't write to ntfs02:48
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nickrudkeleus, that is one anal-retentive lady02:48
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Rugtrainstroker: Do you want to share the music between Win & linux?02:48
keleusso i guess it works. schweeet02:48
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keleusfirst webpage on a host i actually have access to02:48
amphitrainstroker: the symlink won't be on the ntfs partition, it'll just point to [somewhere below]  the ntfs partition's mount point02:48
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keleusgeocities before then02:48
nickrudkeleus, yup, clean and no skips02:49
Hankdehannoverhi02:49
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keleusand valid xhtml 1.0 strict02:49
amphikeleus: how much space do you have on there?02:49
keleus100mb02:49
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keleus100 web, 100 mail, 100 personal, unlimited /tmp (but cant be a jerk about using it)02:49
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ioI am trying to play a movie with mplayer, when I go fullscreen it doesnt scale the image, it just stays tiny with black around it - I've tried -vo xv and -zoom but it doesnt change anything02:49
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keleus50mbps/day bandwidth (1.5gbps/month)02:49
_jasonio: use 'xv' as the video output in preferences02:50
Hankdehannoverany known rhapsody irc client02:50
Phlostenkeleus, where at?02:50
keleusfreeshell.org02:50
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amphiio: what error do you get when you use -vo xv ?02:50
nickrudio, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for a good config for full screen02:50
io_jason, i just said it didnt work..02:50
keleusi'm an ARPA member, one time $36 donation02:50
ionickrud, thanks02:50
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keleusbasic members ($1 donation) get 20mb02:50
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amphiio: -vo xv should work02:50
nickrudio, it's just a config that implements what amphi  said02:50
King-Of-No-PantsIm Back!02:50
Phlosteni have 200GB of storage with 768GB bandwidth per month02:50
_jasonio: apologies... didn't read all the way through :)  Usually works if you have the video drivers installed, otherwise do zoom=yes in your config file02:51
RugPhlosten: how much>02:51
trainstroker/home/phillip/Desktop02:51
ioBut.. it doesnt work for any of my players, not just mplayer02:51
trainstrokerln: `/home/phillip/Desktop': hard link not allowed for directory02:51
amphiio: zoom is very slow/processor intensive02:51
PhlostenUS$10 per month02:51
keleusif your interested, just telnet/ssh into tty.freeshell.org02:51
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keleusnice02:51
keleusPhlosten what kind of access02:51
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Phlostendoesnt have shell stuff tho02:51
Phlosten:(02:51
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: im back02:51
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keleuseh eh02:51
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tepyGreetings all02:51
keleusi can IRC from my web host02:51
keleuswatch this...02:51
trainstrokerln: `/home/phillip/Desktop': hard link not allowed for directory (what am i doing wrong)02:52
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amphiio: what does xvinfo say?02:52
nickrudrimuhosting will sell you a breezy server install ...02:52
amphiio: pastebin it if you like02:52
tepyQuestion: Can I use a Debian (.deb) package to install something on breezy?02:52
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: so I see02:52
_jasonio: actually, i guess zoom=yes is equivalent to -zoom... what vo are you using as default?02:52
amphitrainstroker: ln -s02:52
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amphitrainstroker: ln -s <target> <link>02:53
paxPhlosten: whos your host?02:53
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pbransfordhi there. this is keleus... check my hostname02:54
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ioamphi, http://pastebin.com/66837902:54
Phlostenpax, netfirms.com02:54
io_jason, im not sure..02:54
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keleusyour smelly host doesn't let you do that :P02:54
tepyQuestion: Can I use a Debian (.deb) package to install something on breezy?02:54
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keleustepy, yes02:54
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tepyThank you02:54
keleusso long as it can satisfy dependencies02:54
nickrudtepy, no02:54
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: freenode is saying im already registered?02:54
keleusyou may need to d/l a bunch of more packages, hopefully not02:55
Phlostenyes no yes no02:55
tepyI'll try it ... wait ... can I or ?02:55
nickrudtepy, actually, it really depends on the deb02:55
amphiio: by the look of that, -vo xv should work02:55
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OrTigaShi! is anyone used Procom or hyperterminal-like in LINUX?02:55
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: whatcha trying to do? sorry to barge in02:55
tepyThe package is pretty simple, Crafty ... it's a chess engine02:55
ioamphi, definately doesn't02:55
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paxPhlosten: you said 200GB storage! got me to ask hehe02:55
amphiio: when you do mplayer -vo xv whatever do you see any error message that looks relevant?02:55
kingspawntepy: you need crafty?02:55
King-Of-No-Pantskingspawn: well, at the moment im trying to register my nickname02:55
nickrudtepy, ubuntu does not promise binary compatibility with debian packages.02:55
tepy*nodnod*02:55
NewbuntuIf you download a movie on a bit torrent and it comes in as many smaller rar files... how do you unrar them and join them?02:55
King-Of-No-Pantskingspawn: in linux, im trying to stop it from crashing02:56
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: /msg nickserv register <password>02:56
ioamphi, VO: [xv]  352x216 => 352x216 Planar YV1202:56
iothats about it02:56
paxPhlosten: if it was indeed 200GB i'd give them $10 :-)02:56
OrTigaShi! is anyone used Procom PLUS or hyperterminal-like in LINUX?02:56
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: ah, quite the challenge :)02:56
King-Of-No-PantsNickServ*The nickname [king-of-no-pants]  is already registered02:56
tepyyou got it running kingspawn?02:56
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iooh and this: VDec: vo config request - 352 x 216 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV12)02:56
ioVDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0)02:56
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ioamphi, there's one more part: Movie-Aspect is 1.63:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.02:57
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: now what whs that command to give the linux?02:57
trainstroker when making multiple links, last argument must be a directory02:57
RugNewbuntu: I can't help you with downloaded movies, but if you installed rar, you can type this:   rar -x filename.rar02:57
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OrTigaShello02:57
Phlostenpax, oooh aah extra 0 :)02:57
King-Of-No-Pantskingspawn: and no problem at all with you barging in, I could use all the help I can get02:57
RugOrTigaS: Howdy02:57
OrTigaShi! is anyone used Procom PLUS or hyperterminal-like in LINUX?02:57
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: well, does registering work?02:57
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nickrudio, try doing the cut and paste from the page I gave you; once the move is running hit F. Does it go to full screen?02:57
King-Of-No-Pantskingspawn: no02:58
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RugI almost have the entire mirror of Ubuntu downloaded.   Now I can install machines super-fast from the local copy.  I'll rsync it every night so that it will always be uptodate.02:58
RugI'm kinda jazzed, I wanna torch my system just so I can reinstall it!02:58
mzinzif a file has a '~' at the end, is that an auto save? do i need it?02:58
ionickrud, blackness and no scaling02:58
amphiio: that looks fine - what happens if you hit 'f' ?02:58
trainstroker when making multiple links, last argument must be a directory (the laste argument is a idrector isnt it?)02:58
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: whats it say?02:58
tepyNever bargin with the kingpawn, it's a posioned pawn for sure.02:58
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ioamphi, blackness with no scaling02:58
kingspawntepy: 1. e4 is the only sensible move02:58
_jasonio: you are using mplayer from the repos?02:58
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:58
King-Of-No-Pantskingspawn: it says my name is already registered02:58
amphiio: that's wierd02:58
io_jason, yes02:58
tepy*grin* Okay Bobby02:58
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: did you register it?02:58
OrTigaShow can i use my USB BlueTooth?02:58
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: or someone else did02:58
ioamphi, and its the same for other video players as well02:58
kingspawntepy: come one, man, you gotta play the kings pawn02:59
kingspawntepy: bobby is in iceland now02:59
amphiio: what color-depth is your x server running in?02:59
kingspawntepy: he's cool02:59
King-Of-No-Pantskingspawn: no, and thats highly unlikely02:59
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tepyActually I do, could never get used to those 'wimpy' queenspawn games.02:59
Rugio: Did you play with the aspect ratio settings?02:59
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kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: agreed :)02:59
tepyI'm old school02:59
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ioamphi, not sure actually.. lol02:59
ioRug, i dont even know how :-)02:59
_RocHhi , where can I get QtCore >= 4.0.0 for breezy ?02:59
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: change your nick to something extremely exotic, and try to register that02:59
tepystill prefer discriptive notation even02:59
paxPhlosten: why don't you move your business to powweb and pay half of what you're paying now :-)03:00
imc_Hey I need to transfer files from one ubuntu machine to another across the lan - what;s the fastest way without a cable but both machines have wireless?03:00
ioweird thing is, it was working before I rebooting.  All I did was a system upgrade03:00
King-Of-No-Pantskingspawn: I think I messed it up earlier03:00
cyphase.deb. is formatted as /tar/gv, right?03:00
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: yeah, then you gotta msg nickserv HELP03:00
cyphase.tar.gz*03:00
josh__bah. I just reinstalled ubuntu a few week ago, and I can't remember what I have to isntall to play dvds (decoder). what was it again :P?03:00
nickrudnalioth, you about?03:00
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: and try to sort it out03:00
Phlostenpax, *goes to look*, up for renewal in a few months03:00
_RocHimc_, ftp03:00
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amphiio: what does xdpyinfo | grep depths show? paste the one line03:00
naliothnickrud: i am03:00
King-Of-No-Pantskingspawn: I guess I will03:00
paxPhlosten: they give you free 12 months with one year service.03:00
rikaibbs, house is on.03:00
imc__RocH, is that faster than samba or something else?03:00
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iodepths (7):    24, 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 3203:01
nickrudKing-Of-No-Pants is trying to register his nick, but thinks he screwed up earllier03:01
Rugimc_: ftp is the fastest03:01
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imc_Rug, thanks03:01
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: itll work outin the end03:01
tepyOkay, unless one of geeks warn me off I'm going to go install crafty from this here .deb file.03:01
Boxhello, can anyone recomend a simple clock applet?03:01
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: just dont give it up03:01
amphiio: 24bpp is the default, which should be ok03:01
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: its a world ofgreat hacks once you get to know it03:01
imc_okay and now I get connection refused03:01
tepyOkay, unless one of you geeks warn me off I'm going to go install crafty from this here .deb file.03:01
naliothKing-Of-No-Pants: /msg nickserv register THE_PASS_YOU_WANT03:01
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King-Of-No-Pantskingspawn: I believe you, but im trying to configure my xserver right now, so Im gonna put off registering for later03:01
amphiio: do you want to pastebin mplayer's output?03:02
OrTigaShow can i use my USB BlueTooth?03:02
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King-Of-No-Pantsoh crap!03:02
King-Of-No-PantsWhat keyboard options do I want?03:02
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: agreed :)03:02
ioamphi, ok03:02
_RocHfastest but it take time to set up ftp server03:02
_RocHimc_, You can try ssh also03:02
imc_AAAAh03:02
imc_Thanks RocH03:02
nickrudKing-Of-No-Pants, pay attention to nalioth, he'll set you straight03:02
trainstrokerhwen i use hte ln command and there are spaces in the target it creates a different link for every word03:02
tepybye all ... thanks03:02
imc_Anyone gnow of a GUI front end to set up ftp?03:02
King-Of-No-Pantskingspawn: I should have read that last page given to me by linux03:02
_RocHimc_, gproftpd03:03
naliothKing-Of-No-Pants: the default answers are usually the best03:03
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imc__RocH thanks again03:03
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_RocHsave it for later :d03:03
King-Of-No-Pantsyeah, but this the default is blank03:03
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bsoftoi pessoal....03:03
King-Of-No-PantsI want to make sure the numlock is turned on by default03:03
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King-Of-No-Pantsanyone know what I should put in>>03:03
ioamphi, http://pastebin.com/66839303:03
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: thing to remember about linux: read :)03:03
naliothKing-Of-No-Pants: your xorg config has nothing to do with numlock03:03
King-Of-No-Pantskingspawn: yeah, I noticed03:03
King-Of-No-Pantsnalitoh: ok, cool03:04
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kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: numlock often acts crazy03:04
cyphaseWhat format is .deb in?03:04
cyphase.tar?03:04
Sodiumhow can I make Firestarter don't ask for a password on system startup?03:04
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: espec. around laptops, if thats what youre on03:04
ioamphi, notice line 27 - don't know if thats important03:04
King-Of-No-Pantskingspawn: im putting linux on a desktop, im on a laptop at the moment03:04
_RocHSodium, You can't it's the way it should be03:05
naliothSodium: firestarter doesnt need to run at all03:05
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: heh, just ask if you need some help03:05
_RocHif he got it from repo03:05
amphiio: looks like you have some other video prog running03:05
King-Of-No-Pantskingspawn: trust me, I will03:05
Sodium_RocH: I know it's the way it should be, but couldn't it be an exception?03:05
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: good, its the only way we learn03:05
ioamphi, .. i don't think I do.. ?03:05
amphiio: ps aux | grep mplayer03:06
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King-Of-No-Pantskingspawn: you, or me>03:06
bimberi!tell OrTigaS about bluetooth03:06
_RocHSodium, if You installed firestarter from repo , it loads automaticaly , what's asking pass is just a GUI ...03:06
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: you and me both :)03:06
ioamphi, i just did that same thing.  Fawk.  Thanks so much.. lol its working03:06
King-Of-No-Pantskingspawn: neato03:06
ioamphi, I shoulda just rebooted ;-)03:06
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kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: hacking around is our way to linux knowledge03:06
Sodium_RocH: oh! I get it :) Thx03:06
King-Of-No-Pantskingspawn: this project is becoming much more difficult then I thought it would be03:06
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King-Of-No-Pantskingspawn: I've used linux many times before, but this one is just being much more difficult03:07
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bliss1_hi03:07
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: its just a hickup03:07
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: ive used it for years too03:08
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: ubuntu is usually very easy to set up03:08
bsoftAnyone Knows how to enable Wake On Lan service?03:08
_RocHI'm building banshee-0.10.9 , I'm stuck on avahi , it needs QtCore >= 4.0.0. , where is it hiding ? :>03:08
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: but with idiotic hardware standards, everything gets botched once in a while03:08
bliss1_what does the -fr mean in this command rm -fr xen-3.0.103:08
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King-Of-No-Pantskingspawn: Its good thou, because I need it to go wrong, this computer was free, and getting it to work is more educational than if it just worked from the get go03:08
kingspawnbliss1_: f = force, r = recursive03:08
ptlobliss1_: force, recursive03:08
amphiio: cool - so do 'echo vo=xv' >> ~/.mplayer/config and you won't need to type -vo vx any more03:08
_RocHbliss1_, force , recurse03:08
kingspawnptlo: great minds..03:08
King-Of-No-Pantskingspawn: Crap!03:08
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: no doubt03:09
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: installers that f*** iup teach you a whole lot03:09
King-Of-No-Pantskingspawn: i just configured the xserver, and it didnt take03:09
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: don't bother with x ;)03:09
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: you just told me to...03:10
bliss1_kingspawn: so it cleans the directory completly03:10
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: should I use the kernel framebuffer instead?03:10
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: interface*03:10
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: ? you mean framebuffer console?03:10
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: what x driver did you choose?03:11
kingspawnbliss1_: yeah. it forces files that dont want to comply, and it takes subdirs, forcing those that wont03:11
kingspawnKing-Of-No-Pants: oh?03:11
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King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: xserver is asking me if I would like to use kernel framebuffer device interface, should I?03:11
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King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: I haven't gotten that far03:11
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: dunno - try yes, and then no if it doesn't work03:11
lflashlhow do i use apt-get to update firefox?03:11
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Rugimc_: lflashl sudo apt-get upgrade03:12
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: Im using the nv driver03:12
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: some card/driver combos like it, some don't, I believe03:12
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: it detectd the driver and card properly03:12
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: cool03:12
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: Now I am back to a command line03:12
Ruglflashl: do in this order:  apt-get update,  apt-get upgrade03:12
trainstrokerhow do i install debs03:13
Tennesseetrain: with dpkg03:13
Rugdpk -i package.deb03:13
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: what runlevel are you in?03:13
bliss1_kingspawn: so can i use that dirctory again the full instruction is rm -fr xen-3.0.1  then rm -fr xen-3.0.1 and cd xen-3.0.1/03:13
Ruggpkg rather03:13
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: pardon?03:13
Rugack03:13
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_RocH=)03:13
UbuntuNewbiehello everyone03:13
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: are you in single user mode?03:13
RugI gotta stop typing in the dark.03:13
King-Of-No-Pantsjesse@ubuntu:~$03:13
Ryliehow do you derect connect on aim to send picture>03:13
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: should be03:14
lflashland this should update my firefox to 1.5?03:14
bliss1_kingspawnsorry then tar -xvzf xen-3.0.1-src.tgz03:14
RugRylie: are you connected using gaim?03:14
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: ctrl-d should do normal startup03:14
Hobbsee!tell lflashl about firefox1.503:14
Rylieya i thnk03:14
King-Of-No-Pantsnow It is asking me to log in03:14
kingspawnblindx: no no03:14
kingspawnbliss1_: no, no03:14
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: but it is still command line03:14
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: gui?03:14
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bliss1_kingspawn: just a sec03:14
kingspawnbliss1_: if you rm -rf a directory, it is GONe03:14
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: no03:14
Ryliecan some one help me03:14
Rylieplease03:14
RugRylie: drag & drop a file into your chat window03:15
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: login and do sudo telinit 2 perhaps03:15
keleushow would i filter a log file to only show lines with "keleus" on them?03:15
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amphikeleus: grep03:15
_jasonkeleus: grep keleus /path/to/logfile03:15
Rugkeleus: cat filename |grep keleus03:15
TennesseeKing-Of-No-Pants: What's the trouble?03:15
keleusthanks03:15
UbuntuNewbiei need help on SAMBA regarding Authentication required03:15
keleusi was thinking grip for some reason. no wonder it wouldn't work :)03:16
Rylieit wont let me03:16
UbuntuNewbietheres a domain field and im not sure what to put it03:16
amphikeleus: heh03:16
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: Alright, I did the telinit 2, and it didn't change anything03:16
kingspawnUbuntuNewbie: have you read "man samba"?03:16
RugRylie: what error are you getting?03:16
NytWolfLooking for assistance... two Nic cards, both configured and up via ifup, can ping both ip addresses from the ubuntu server and another computer on same network. However, causes software to no longer accept connections on either port.03:16
amphi!tell UbuntuNewbie about samba03:16
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Rylienothing it just wont let me do it the page always goes infront of the other03:17
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: I am at a command line03:17
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bliss1_kingspawn: the instruction is rm -fr xen-3.0.1 then tar -xvzf xen-3.0.1-src.tgz and then cd xen-3.0.1/ so its kiling the old one and starting the new03:17
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: last time I was here, I restarted and had to do the xorg config over again03:17
lflashlstill tying to work out how to make mplayer use the current window open to play new music03:17
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RugRylie: try minimising so you can see both windows03:17
TennesseeKing-Of-No-Pants: I've done a bit of xorg jiggering and pokering03:17
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: what does runlevel say?03:17
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: I have no idea03:18
kingspawnbliss1_: yeah, seems right.03:18
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: pfft - type 'runlevel' and hit enter03:18
Rylieok thank you03:18
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: Jesse@ubuntu:~$_03:18
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: N 203:18
King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: help is coming from everywhere!03:18
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: try startx perhaps03:18
King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: I just swapped graphics cards03:19
TennesseeKing-Of-No-Pants: That's nice. What broke?03:19
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: we are getting somewhere!03:19
King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: We suspect the old ATI 3dRage IIc03:19
NytWolfI'd like some help involving multiple NICs in the same system running Ubuntu03:19
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: you could read man nv for info about the driver03:19
RugKing-Of-No-Pants: ohh bad03:19
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: I suspect RAM03:19
King-Of-No-Pantsbad?03:19
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King-Of-No-Pantsrug: pardon?03:20
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: does startx work?03:20
mramhello03:20
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: yes!03:20
TennesseeKing-Of-No-Pants: You still haven't described the problem for me ... I missed the start of this conversation.03:20
RugKing-Of-No-Pants: I've had metric assloads of problems getting those cards to work03:20
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amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: rejoice03:20
mramany good gui antivirus avaible for linux?03:20
jonathan_is anyone having problems with cups besides me?03:20
King-Of-No-PantsSuccess!03:20
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King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: my X is working again03:20
amphimram: antivirus?03:20
jonathan_unable to open subscriptions.conf and classes.conf03:20
bliss1_kingspawn; only thing is when i do http://www.xensource.com/products/downloads/dl_x30tarball_bt.html with BitTorrent the sorce tar has been upgarded to 3.0. 2-2 how to get 3.0.1?03:20
TennesseeKing: Congrats! You might want to move from nv to nvidia at some point though03:20
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: Now I'll run it for a while and see if it still crashes03:21
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: you just need gdm to start at boot time now (unless you like startx, as I do)03:21
King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: How should I do that?03:21
mramamphi: yeah i had AVG for 5.10 but it doesn't work with Flight603:21
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: How do I go about doing that?03:21
tritium!tell King-Of-No-Pants about nvidia03:21
TennesseeKing: apt-get install nvidia-glx03:21
kingspawnbliss1_: say whaaat?03:21
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NytWolfCan anyone provide network configuration help?03:21
TennesseeThat will install it. You will then get a choice about whether to actually use it or not03:21
TennesseeI'd make a copy of your working xorg.conf first03:21
RugNytWolf: ask your question03:21
amphiTennessee: for that card?03:21
Tennesseeamphi: the Nvidia driver is supposed to work for all nvidia cards.03:22
TennesseeSupposed to.03:22
amphiTennessee: ah...03:22
bliss1_kinspawn: say what to do03:22
King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: I'll take your word for it03:22
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amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: do you need 3d accel on that card? otherwise the nv driver is fine03:22
Tennessee3d is nice. It'll speed up X a bit anyway.03:23
cafuegoTennessee: There's an nvidia-glx-legacy for older (geforce2 and earlier) cards.03:23
NytWolfRug: I have eth0 and eth1 configured and working. I can ping both cards from the Ubuntu system itself and from a Windows machine. However, if I have both up via ifup it breaks software, such as SSH and doesn't allow SSH to accept any connections.03:23
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: I don't think so, but I'm already in too deep!03:23
NytWolfRug: It does it with Apache as well.03:23
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: if you don't, I'd stick with the xorg driver03:23
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King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: Alright, I've installed nvidia03:23
TennesseeI have this weird problem where I need to bring eth0 down and up manually each time I boot up in order to get networking. Anyone know of this?03:23
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: too late!03:23
RugNytWolf: you need to desigante one of the cards as 'primary'03:23
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: heh03:23
bliss1_kingspawn: ; only thing is when i do http://www.xensource.com/products/downloads/dl_x30tarball_bt.html with BitTorrent the sorce tar has been upgarded to 3.0.2-2 how to get 3.0.1? what to do03:23
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: now how do I get X to load at startup?03:23
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TennesseeKing-Of-No-Pants: Once you've installed it, you need to run nvidia-xconfig03:24
NytWolfRug: Do I do that in configuration file? (/etc/network/interfaces)03:24
RugNytWolf: I don't use gnome, but I know the option is in there03:24
kingspawnbliss1_: im not exactly sure what youre asking here.03:24
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: why isn't it now? did you remove the init script symlinks?03:24
RugNytWolf: you can use the GUI03:24
NytWolfRug: I working with pure command line03:24
TennesseeOtherwise you won't be using what you've just installed03:24
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RugNytWolf: one sec...03:24
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: well, i guess it is03:24
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King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: i havent done anything03:24
NytWolfRug: Thank you very much03:24
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MrRioHow come ubuntu won't generate host keys on boot if they don't exist?03:24
bliss1_kingspawn: trying to get source file cos must delete old one03:25
cafuegoThey get generated when you install the openssh-server03:25
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: does /etc/rc2.d/?gdm?? exist?03:25
MrRiocafuego, Im mirroring this exact install and don't want the same private keys03:25
MrRiocan u help?03:25
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: er, /etc/rc2.d/S??gdm03:25
RugNytWolf: I don't know what it is sorry03:25
cafuegoMrRio: Just rerun the ssh server postinst script.03:26
King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: nvidia-xconfig: command not found03:26
Tennesseeapt-get install nvidia-xconfig03:26
NytWolfRug: Thanks anyway. You gave me a starting point at least. I didn't know I needed to set a primary adapter.03:26
bliss1_kingspawn: old source file has been upgraded from 3,0,1 to 3.0.2-2  diffrent source diffrent way it compiles03:26
cafuego'sudo /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.postinst'03:26
kingspawnbliss1_: its not easy to understand, but just rm -rf old one and get new one03:26
Tennesseeapt-get install nvidia-setttings03:26
arthurcan anyone tell me where can i update the latest gcc (4.1.0)  for the breezy 5.1 ?03:26
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RugNytWolf: yeah I had this problem with my laptop and swapping between WLAN & LAN03:27
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: the rc2.d is full of files03:27
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MrRiocafuego: So, check for existance in the init script, then run.. dpkg-reconfigure or something?03:27
cafuegoarthur: breezy does not come with gcc 4.103:27
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arthurwhy ?03:27
cafuegoMrRio: for instance.03:27
arthur:(03:27
cafuegoarthur: It wasn't stable when breezy was released.03:28
harisundWhat is the first problem that comes to your minds when I say that my audio driver is detected, sounds are all playing fine, but it is not recording my microphone input?03:28
cafuego!info gcc-4.0 breezy03:28
ubotugcc-4.0: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 486 kB, Installed size: 1264 kB03:28
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: gdm is amongst them?03:28
imc_FTP has driven me mad. Now trying to do samba. the mount command is correct but I'm getting Access Denied. What can I check to see if samba is on? Firewall is off03:28
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: s13gdm is03:28
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cafuegoarthur: In fact, even gcc 4.0 wasn't good enough to build kernels with when breezy was released.03:28
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: you should have gui login then03:28
harisundimc_ What was the problem you had with FTP? It works fine for me.03:28
King-Of-No-Pantsneato.03:28
imc_harisund, connection refused even with localhost. And basically I am trying to get my whole /home directory across the LAN.03:29
arthurbut the gcc 4.0.2 is also not stable . and today i found the boost:asio can not build on 4.0.203:29
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imc_Can you help me figure it out harisund?03:29
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: i dont, thou03:29
cafuegoarthur: try gcc 3.3 then.03:29
cafuegoarthur: 4.1 is likely to be *more* unstable.03:29
amphiKing-Of-No-Pants: have you rebooted?03:29
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: no03:29
harisundimc_ I don't know much about Samba. But I have installed proftpd and FTP works for me..03:29
arthur#if defined(__GNUC__) \                                                                                                       |-  daytime_client.cpp (/home/a  && (__GNUC__ == 4 && __GNUC_MINOR__ == 0 && __GNUC_PATCHLEVEL__ == 2)                                                       ||-   function03:30
arthur#warning iostreams example is disabled for gcc 4.0.2                                                                          |||     main03:30
arthurint main() {}                                                                                                                 |||     main03:30
arthur#else03:30
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King-Of-No-Pantswoah!03:30
arthuroh03:30
cafuego!paste03:30
ubotuPlease don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL03:30
arthurok thanks .03:30
King-Of-No-Pantsamphi: im gonna reboot03:30
imc_okay I will try again thanks03:30
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harisundimc_ I could help you install and get FTP working using the proftpd server if you want. But I have no idea about SAMBA, well a little maybe.03:30
cafuegoarthur: Use gcc 3.303:30
imc_E: Couldn't find package proftp03:30
harisundimc_ What would you prefer? Samba or FTP?03:30
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imc_Doh! Found it. Installing proftp harisund03:31
harisundimc_ OK.03:31
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imc_okay it is installed harisund03:31
harisundimc_ Ok, so we are going with FTP right?03:32
imc_yep03:32
_tylerif a file has a '~' at the end, is that an auto save? do i need it?03:32
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harisundimc_ Just a minute. I will walk you through what else you need to install.03:32
_tylerhow do i change from military time to normal? I CANNOT figure it out.03:32
harisundimc_ Let me check my own machine too.03:32
imc_Thank you so much harisund03:32
imc_:)03:32
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imc__tyler right click on the clock03:32
harisundimc_ Ok first up,  you are familiar with the command line, right?03:32
imc_Select preferences03:32
imc_harisund, yep03:33
harisundimc_ Ok. Then we do this: "sudo apt-get install inetutils-inetd proftpd"03:33
King-Of-No-Pants!a03:33
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ubotuKing-Of-No-Pants: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:33
imc_yep03:33
ssw2Ok, I am trying to install ubuntu 5.10 for mac and far as i get when booting from the cd is Can't open config file yatta yatt03:33
imc_done03:33
King-Of-No-PantsGood News everyone!03:33
harisundimc_ Ok. Now hang on, while I make a pasting on Ubuntu Paste Bin03:33
Madpilot_tyler, you mean 24hr time on the desktop clock?03:33
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King-Of-No-PantsMy GUI Works again!03:34
bimberi_tyler: gedit (for one) creates file~ files as backups - can be deleted (note: nautilus treates them as hidden)03:34
imc__tyler did you see my comment regarding the clock?03:34
ssw2any help for me03:34
_tylerimc_: yeah, ive done it like 20 times and cna't figure it out03:34
harisundimc_ Before that, are you trying to access the machine with FTP on another machine on the same LAN, or from outside, or what other configuration?03:34
_tylerbimberi: why can i see them then?03:34
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imc_Right click on the clock, select prefs then unselect 24 hour clock03:34
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ssw2?03:35
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TennesseeKing-Of-No-Pants: Check your xorg.conf and tell us which driver you have listed03:35
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imc_harisund, accessing from within the lan within the firewall expecting to do lftp 192.168.1.x thenlogin03:35
bimberi_tyler: in nautilus? View -> Show Hidden Files03:35
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harisundimc_ Ok good. Hang on.03:35
ssw2Can't install Ubuntu 5.10 on my Blue and white G303:35
imc_s/within the firewall/behind the firewall ;)03:35
_tylerimc_: i dont have prefs.. im in kde03:35
King-Of-No-Pantstennessee: where is that?03:35
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imc__tyler AH! Sorry, I thought gnome03:35
Tennessee/etc/X11/xorg.conf03:35
King-Of-Pantsthanks03:35
AngryElfif part of a script in /etc/rc2.d/ has run at boot but part of it hasn't where should I look to possibly find out why?03:35
wrayhello all. Anyone knows how can I change my system clock frequency to 1000Hz without recompiling the kernel?03:35
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TennesseeThat file controls all your GUI settings -- where you'd put extra monitor settings, flags to your graphics card to control its modes, resolutions etc.03:36
TennesseeYou might want to add a projector there one day, for example.03:36
ChadzaWhat would anyone reccomend some java work in ubuntu, other than Eclipse?03:36
ssw2somebody pm me if they can help me with installing ubunto on Blue and white apple g303:36
harisundimc_ Now, start editing (with sudo) the file /etc/proftpd.conf03:36
TennesseeChadza: gvim! :)03:36
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ChadzaTennessee, I'll check it out.03:37
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King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: Driver "NV"03:37
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GauVisual Basic killed BASIC03:37
ssw2?????03:37
hiramVB sucks03:37
TennesseeKing-Of-No-Pants: You're still using the unaccelerated driver. That's okay-ish for your GUI, but bad for some things.03:37
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harisundimc_ You can change the ServerName to whatever you want. Change the ServerType to inetd. Look for "user" and "group" and change both to reflect your username.03:37
harisundimc_ Got that?03:37
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TennesseeKing-Of-No-Pants: Games are the obvious one, but also some apps will be much slower.03:37
King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: I don't need accelleration...03:37
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ssw2no help for me i guess03:37
ssw2damn03:38
King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: All I want is Firefox and Gaim on this computer03:38
imc_yep one sec... okay looks good.  ALl I really neede to change is the server name yes?03:38
TennesseeKing-Of-No-Pants: If you really don't care, then fair enough. But it's not just acceleration -- it's TwinView (second monitor) also.03:38
harisundimc_ server name, user and group.03:38
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harisundimc_ Make sure user and group are both the same as your username.03:38
imc_Ah, gotchya!03:38
King-Of-PantsTennessee: What did I not do, when I installed the nvidia driver?03:38
harisundimc_ The server type is inetd, right?03:38
bimberissw2: if "Blue and white apple g3" constitutes an old world mac then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OldWorldMacs03:38
imc_yes03:38
harisundThat is important imc_03:38
harisundOk good.03:38
ssw2Its a new world03:38
King-Of-PantsTennessee: I thought I installed that driver.03:39
harisundimc_ Next step. You want it to listen on port 21, right? The default one?03:39
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imc_you mean like if my user name was fred and I was in group users I should change it to User fred Group users right harisund?03:39
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TennesseeKing-Of-Pants: You did, but you're not using it. It's just sitting there as files on disk doing nothing.03:39
bimberissw2: kk03:39
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ssw2It will bot from cd but then it gives error when booting cd03:39
imc_and yes, port 21 is fine03:39
ssw2while*03:39
harisundNo no, by default Ubuntu creates a group for you with the same name as your username. Hence your file would have fred next to both user and group.03:39
King-Of-PantsTennessee: So how do I enable it, it sounds sexy.03:39
imc_okay thanks03:39
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imc_okay that's done. . .03:40
TennesseeKing: You need to install nvidia-xconfig and run it. It will them recombobulate your xorg.conf file. Back it up first, you might break something.03:40
harisundimc_ Next step. You want it to listen on port 21, right? The default one?03:40
MrRiocafuego: cheers :D03:40
imc_yes03:40
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cafuegoit went 'ping'!03:40
harisundimc_ So let's make sure nothing else is listening on port 21 already.03:40
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imc_We're good03:40
King-Of-Pantstennessee: I installed nvidia-xconfig03:40
harisundimc_ To do this, execute "sudo netstat -plant"03:40
ssw2?03:40
TennesseeIf you break something, just copy the backup over the top and everything will work again.03:40
IceToxHey, I wanna start the sshd service. shouldn't "sshd" cover that in terminal?03:40
King-Of-Pantstenessee: now I have to run it03:40
cafuegossw2: Reburn the CD, but burn it slowly.03:40
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TennesseeKing: Bingo. Hold onto your pants!03:40
harisundimc_ This will show you a list of what application is listening on what port.03:41
ssw2Its a cd that i ordered03:41
bobbyok how install stuff on this03:41
imc_yep harisund, we're clean on 2103:41
bobby?03:41
ssw2I got them free03:41
cafuegossw2: it may be broken. Do you have others?03:41
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ssw2yes03:41
cafuegoTried others too?03:41
imc_harisund...one sec03:41
ssw2let me try03:41
bobbycan someone answer a dumb question for me?03:41
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imc_this is weird: tcp6       0      0 :::21                   :::*                    LISTEN     203:42
bimberi~tell bobby about synaptic03:42
brandon_how do i make video players cache web streams to about 35% before starting playback?03:42
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ssw2welll if this helps neither live or install will boot03:42
King-Of-PantsTennessee: I'm all backed up03:42
bimberi!tell bobby about synaptic03:42
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ssw2they give same answer03:42
cafuegossw2: Which answer is that?03:42
bobbywhats synaptic03:42
harisundOk sure.03:42
TennesseeKing: Well, then you can just go for it.03:42
King-Of-PantsTennessee: Now what?03:42
King-Of-PantsTennessee: ?03:42
imc_we're still good?03:42
Tennesseerun nvidia-xconfig03:42
harisundOk. Next, start editing (with sudo) the file /etc/inetd.conf so that it has one line, " ftpstreamtcpnowaitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd/usr/sbin/proftpd"03:42
TennesseeThen look at xorg.conf again and see how it's changed.03:42
TennesseeThen restart X.03:42
harisundimc_ Everything I typed above in quotes, in one line (without the quotes of course)03:43
bimberibobby: it's a program that helps you install programs (see the link in a /msg from ubotu)03:43
King-Of-PantsTennessee: where is it?03:43
imc_right03:43
King-Of-PantsTennessee: nvidia-config...03:43
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imc_Actuallyit's there already harisund ;)03:43
Tennesseenvidia-xconfig. It should just be on your path03:43
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harisundimc_ Oh so it was there. Ok good. I thought I had edited it manually. Neat.03:43
bobbywell if i could get to command line i would be ok03:43
TennesseeI can run it from anywhere03:43
imc_:)03:43
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King-Of-PantsTennessee: what should I type into the terminal?03:44
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IceToxHey. I wanna start sshd server on my ubuntu computer.. How do I do it in terminal? I'm used to "sshd" should work. Seems not in this case as I'm asked for a full path.03:44
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ssw2Can't open config file03:44
bimberibobby: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal03:44
TennesseeTry nvidia<tab><tab> and see what comes up03:44
harisundimc_ Now let's start the server. Here's the ultimate command "sudo invoke-rc.d inetutils-inetd start"03:44
harisundimc_ Looks like our pal IceTox is having a similar problem :D03:44
ssw2then Welcome to yaboot Version 1.3.13 then its got   boot:03:44
bobbyty your a life saver03:44
bobby:d03:44
imc_coool03:44
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King-Of-Pants# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)03:44
King-Of-Pants#03:44
King-Of-Pants# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using03:44
King-Of-Pants# values from the debconf database.03:44
King-Of-Pants#03:44
King-Of-Pants# Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.03:44
King-Of-Pants# (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)03:44
King-Of-Pants#03:44
King-Of-Pants# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*03:44
cafuego!paste03:44
ubotuPlease don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL03:44
King-Of-Pants# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg03:44
King-Of-Pants# package.03:44
harisundNooooooooooooooooooooooo King-of-pants not here.03:44
King-Of-Pants#03:44
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King-Of-Pants# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated03:44
cafuegoKing-Of-Pants: Stop it!03:44
King-Of-Pants# again, run the following command:03:45
imc_King-Of_Pants come one now03:45
King-Of-Pants#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg03:45
FlannelKingthis is going to get long.03:45
King-Of-PantsSection "Files"03:45
imc_This is really inconsiderate03:45
King-Of-PantsFontPath"/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc"03:45
cafuego!ops03:45
_jasonKing-Of-Pants: /quit please03:45
King-Of-PantsFontPath"/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic"03:45
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King-Of-PantsFontPath"/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"03:45
King-Of-PantsFontPath"/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"03:45
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King-Of-PantsFontPath"/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1"03:45
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FlannelKingsomeone mute him until the paste is done ;)03:45
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cafuegothanks guys03:45
harisundThanks ops !03:45
ssw2pm me03:45
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slavikyou can unban him ...03:45
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slaviknvm03:45
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imc_harisund - W0000T03:45
IceToxharisund, I should start it with "sudo sshd start" ?03:45
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luigii need help03:45
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cafuegossw2: Do you have the server or workstatuion B&W G3? (SCSI or IDE?)03:45
harisundIceTox: What did you do to get a SSH server first?03:45
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ssw2ide03:45
cafuego'k03:46
luigii need help03:46
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bimberiIceTox: have you installed open-ssh-server?  (it isn't installed by default)03:46
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harisundIceTox By default only a SSH client gets installed with Ubuntu.03:46
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imc_harisund, thanks so much. Up, running and connected. Much obliged03:46
King-Of-No-Pants.03:46
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OrTigaShi! is anyone used Procom PLUS or hyperterminal-like in LINUX?03:46
King-Of-No-Pantssorry!03:46
harisundimc_ Yay. You want to try Samba too?03:46
ssw2it has apple oem cd drive03:46
IceToxharisund, got it through apt-get03:46
King-Of-No-Pantsthat was an accident!03:46
Amaranth!pastebin03:46
uboturumour has it, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126903:46
bobbyok now it wont let me login as root03:46
King-Of-No-Pantsi didnt even mean to paste anything03:46
bobbywth03:46
imc_harisund - not today!!!!!!03:46
jbjulyOrTigaS: minicom03:46
FlannelKing!tell bobby about root03:46
cafuegossw2: *nod* that's actually a rebadged sony03:46
MadpilotOrTigaS, kill the away spam, please03:46
imc_Thanks so much03:46
luigihow do i install a ati x600 driver?03:46
tritiumKing-Of-No-Pants: no problem03:46
harisundimc_ That's cool . No problem.03:46
TennesseeKing: Okay, get up your command terminal and type nvidia, and hit tab a couple of times03:46
harisundIceTox are you still there?03:46
ssw2well, figured03:46
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cafuego!tell luigi -about fglrx03:46
slavik!tell luigi about ati03:47
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tritiumKing-Of-No-Pants: only reason I +q'ed you was to stop the paste03:47
harisundIceTox are you sure a SSH server is not already running? If you had installed it, generally it automatically starts running.03:47
IceToxharisund, the apt-get version of it might have overwrited the previously installed ubuntu version? I haven't added any debian sources.03:47
King-Of-No-Pantsgood move03:47
VideoToasterAnybody here have experience with Evolution and Microsoft Exchange?  I've got it working but all of the time stamps are off by four hours.03:47
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King-Of-No-Pantstritium: good move03:47
harisundIceTox: Previously installed? There is no previously installed version.03:47
tritiumKing-Of-No-Pants: thanks, and don't worry about it :003:47
IceToxharisund, yes it's running, but I really wanna know how to start it again if I shut it down :-)03:47
harisundIceTox: There is only a previously installed SSH client, and *NOT* a server.03:47
cafuegoVideoToaster: Are you in a +4 timezone?03:47
harisundIceTox: Here are the commands for starting and shutting it down.03:47
IceToxok harisund =)03:47
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harisundIceTox: Start: "sudo invoke-rc.d ssh start" Stop: "sudo invoke-rc.d ssh stop"03:48
King-Of-No-Pantstritium: I just backed up my x.config file, and i was trying to copy a line from my terminal window, but you cant copy out of the terminal window, and i pasted my xorg.conf file in here03:48
cafuegossw2: I'm not sure how to go about this; maybe zap the pram and see if that helps...03:48
tritiumKing-Of-No-Pants: yeah, no big deal.  We handled it.  We're cool.03:48
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VideoToastercafuego:  I'm in EST.  I figured it was the time zone setting, but I couldn't find any way to fix Evolution.03:48
ssw2Can i do that without a mac keyboard03:48
harisundDoes anybody know where Gaim stores its sounds?03:48
ssw2I just have a pc usb keyboard03:48
tritiumharisund: /usr/share/sounds/gaim03:48
IceToxharisund, isn't this like more of a redhat format? Like in debian you only start it with "sshd"03:49
VideoToastercafuego:  *EDT03:49
harisundThat was awesome tritium (instantaneous reply, have I never got)03:49
tritiumharisund: heh ;)03:49
King-Of-No-Pantstritium: King-Of-Pants is still blocked...03:49
harisundIceTox: No, sshd is just a "daemon" that runs in the background.03:49
tritiumKing-Of-No-Pants: from what?03:49
harisundIceTox the command I gave you is the Debian style. In Red Hat  you would have used something called "chkconfig"03:49
King-Of-No-Pantstritium: I can't send to channel03:50
IceToxoKtosiTe, thanks a lot harisund. You've been at great help :-) I'll just read some more at google.com/linux =)03:50
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IceToxoo03:50
cafuegoVideoToaster: evolution has a timezone setting, Edit > Preferences > Calendar & Tasks03:50
IceToxdamn autonick-thingie :-)03:50
harisundIceTox; No problem. You can always come here. Just remember to be patient..03:50
harisund:D03:50
tritiumharisund: for future reference, "dpkg -L gaim" would list the files in the gaim package03:50
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braskohi all, what package would be my best bet for using an HP printer attached to a windows machine from ubuntu?03:50
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VideoToastercafuego:  I tried setting that to nothing and to EST.  Same problem either way.03:50
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harisundtritium: Yes, I did do that. But it didn't list the Gaim sounds.03:51
cafuegoVideoToaster: Then i blame exchange ;-)03:51
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King-Of-No-Pantstennessee: alright, we have nvidia-bug-report.sh, nvidia-glx-config, and nvidia-settings03:51
ruxpinhow do I get .bashrc to be sourced at login?03:51
harisundtritium: You know what?03:51
disasmhow do i make console beep with ubuntu? it does it by default on my debian computer, so I don't think it's too difficult03:51
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kingspawnruxpin: /etc/login.defs03:51
King-Of-Pantsthank you03:51
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kingspawnruxpin: edit that one.03:51
tritiumKing-Of-No-Pants: that was Amaranth's, not mine ;)03:51
TennesseeKing: Okay, I don't think you've install nvidia-xconfig after all.03:52
Tennesseetjl@tardis:~/gfe/tasClient/bin$ apt-cache search nvidia-xconfig03:52
Tennesseenvidia-xconfig - The NVIDIA X Configuration Tool03:52
harisundtrititum: Gaim didn't install those sounds. That is why dpkg -L gaim didn't work. What installed those files was a package called gaim-data. I did "dpkg --search /usr/share/sounds/gaim" and it said gaim-data installed them. That is why I couldn't find it with dpkg -L gaim.03:52
King-Of-No-Pantstritium: ok03:52
tritiumharisund: what?03:52
TennesseeYou want to apt-get install that03:52
VideoToastercafuego:  Evil Microsoft.  :D  Interestingly enough, I'm using Evolution because Outlook won't work at all at home due to the Exchange server being behind a firewall.  Evolution seems to work anyways... I think it's using OWA to get mail or something.03:52
tritiumharisund: ah, you're right :)03:52
harisundtritium: Thanks anyway.03:52
King-Of-Pantstennessee: hmm?03:52
bimberibrasko: no additional package required - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter03:52
cafuegoVideoToaster: Does exchange have an imap module so normal clients can access it?03:52
harisundI wouldn't have realized a package called gaim-data exists. (I did find out using dpkg --list | grep gaim) though03:52
harisund:D03:52
ruxpinkingspawn: I can't find an appropriate option...03:53
TennesseeKing-Of-Pants: I think you need a quick lesson on apt. Apt stands for .... actually I forget. It's a thing that installs stuff.03:53
TennesseeYou use apt-cache search to find available things to install.03:53
tritiumadvanced package tool03:53
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VideoToastercafuego:  Two other questions... It can't find my Global Address book.  Is there any way I can fix that?  Also, how can I get rid of the local folders?  I want Evolution to run completely off the server.  I already moved Drafts and Sent.03:53
TennesseeYou use apt-get install to actually install the things.03:53
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King-Of-PantsTennessee: Im used to going into applications>install applications03:53
TennesseeYou need a thing that's call nvidia-xconfig.03:53
VideoToastercafuego:  No.  Only MAPI (behind the firewall) and Outlook Web.03:53
kingspawnruxpin: for?03:53
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TennesseeKing-Of-Pants: Welcome to a new world of commandline joyfulness. You can use synaptic if you want.03:54
cafuegoVideoToaster: afaik you can't remove local folders (just like in outlook)03:54
kingspawnruxpin: /etc/login.defa03:54
kingspawnruxpin: /etc/login.defs03:54
ruxpinkingspawn: having my ~/.bashrc sourced at login03:54
King-Of-PantsTennessee: Alright, how do i get it?03:54
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TennesseeOpen up your terminal again, and type "apt-cache search nvidia"03:54
ruxpinkingspawn: I've defined it already in ~/.bash_profile, which works for other distros03:54
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cafuegoVideoToaster: As for address book, no idea... I haven;t used exchange in well over  decade <heh>03:54
TennesseeBehind the scenes, all those menus and GUIs for installing stuff are running apt. More or less.03:54
King-Of-PantsTennessee: Alot just popped up03:54
harisundOk imc_ and IceTox got to go !03:54
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TennesseeKing-Of-Pants: Okay, try "apt-get install nvidia-xconfig"03:55
VideoToastercafuego:  Hmm... I asked about getting rid of Local Folders because I didn't have that in Outlook XP when using Exchange03:55
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_jasonruxpin: ~/.gnomerc gets sourced when you log into gnome, profile only gets sourced for login shells03:55
IceToxhave phun harisund :-)03:55
VideoToastercafuego:  Can I change it so that new calendar stuff, addresses, etc. default to Exchange?03:55
King-Of-PantsTennessee: I've gotten good with the sudo command03:55
TennesseeKing-Of-Pants: Next time you need a new thing on your computer, try "apt-cache search thing". It's like google for stuff you can install.03:55
cafuegoVideoToaster: No, outlook thinks exchange is local; but when outlook uses imap, it refuses to not use local folders.03:55
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TennesseeKing-Of-Pants: I break from convention and set up a root user to save all that typing. <ducks>03:56
King-Of-PantsTennessee: E: Couldn't find package nvidia-xconfig03:56
Jowihi all. I'm not using gnome. all apps have trouble connecting to dbus ("unable to determine the address..."). even dbus-monitor fail. dbus-daemon is running. any one got an idea of where to start troubleshooting?03:56
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braskobimberi: OK, it appears printing has just leaped forward 2000 years on Linux!03:56
King-Of-PantsTennessee: THATS UNSECURE!03:56
ruxpin_jason: yeah, I'm using an ssh connection03:56
King-Of-PantsTennessee: :)03:56
TennesseeKing-Of-Pants: Really? Bugger! .... Hey, are you getting bored or do you want to do more cool stuff with apt?03:56
braskobimberi: Thanks, never have done anything this fast before, ubuntu is the best!03:56
VideoToastercafuego:  my personal address book, calendar, etc. all work in Evolution... I just want it to use them as the default instead of the local equivalent.03:56
bimberibrasko: :)03:56
ruxpin_jason: my PS1 isn't set :/03:56
King-Of-PantsTennessee: Well, First I would like to install this nvidia driver03:57
VideoToastercafuego:  Oh, I see... so Exchange becomes the "local" folders.03:57
TennesseeKing-Of-Pants: Only insecure people are worried about being unsecure. :) It's just fine if you're not a weenie.03:57
klaxiananyone know why Beagle doesn't use extended attributes even though they are enabled?03:57
King-Of-PantsTennessee: heehee03:57
_jasonruxpin: you define PS1 where? in .bashrc?03:57
ruxpin_jason: yes03:57
Jowi!dbus03:57
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Jowi03:57
TennesseeKing-Of-Pants: You might need to slap apt around a bit before you'll be able to. You need to let it cast a wider net.03:57
King-Of-PantsTennessee: It read some package lists, then build a dependency tree, then couldnt find package nvidia-xconfig03:57
cafuegoVideoToaster: *nod*  Can you disable the local address book in evo, so it only has the other one to sue as default?03:57
IceToxHey guys.. Do you happend to know about a functional apt-get command for a C compiler?03:57
tritiumIceTox: sudo apt-get install build-essential03:58
TennesseeKing-Of-Pants: Ubuntu ships with this tiny little package list. You need a bigger package. Er, package list. Want to make that happen?03:58
VideoToastercafuego:  how would I do that?03:58
cafuegoIceTox: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'03:58
disasmnm, my pc speaker was muted in alsamixer03:58
King-Of-PantsTennessee: YEAH!03:58
IceToxthanks tritium and cafuego :-)03:58
ruxpin_jason: and I source .bashrc in ~/.bash_profile03:58
Tennessee cat /etc/apt/sources.list03:58
ruxpin_jason: which is enough for gentoo,redhat,fedora,suse...03:58
TennesseeThat's where apt goes to find stuff.03:58
elad`Anyone here has had experience using Jedit?03:58
TennesseeIf you edit that file, you can uncomment a few useful additional sources of software and make them available03:59
_jasonruxpin: it works for me here, let me just mess with it a bit03:59
disasmit still doesn't work through screen though... wonder what needs done to make it work03:59
cafuegoVideoToaster: Try in the prefs, 'Autcompletion' and "Calendar & Tasks'03:59
King-Of-PantsTennessee: that just p'wnd my terminal window03:59
tritium!tell King-Of-Pants about repos03:59
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TennesseeKing-Of-Pants: Okay, it's an exciting file. Open it in a text editor like gedit or gvim.03:59
mcrawforanyone know the name of that neat curses partitioning program ubuntu uses during install?04:00
tritiumKing-Of-Pants: check out the URL I had ubotu send you04:00
harisundPeople, I understand bug reporting is for talking about bugs, but where do I write in suggestions?04:00
klaxianno one uses beagle?04:00
ruxpin_jason: I've got to note that this works for root, but not my normal-user...04:01
TennesseeBRB ... 1 min04:01
ruxpin_jason: and I ssh into the box, not locally login04:01
harisundFor example, while using tsclient to remote into a Windows machine, everything works properly, and when I log off the Windows machine, I am returned back to my Ubuntu desktop, with a big error message "Error in implementing pointer 0x7cc". Now that is something I don't need to know, right? Where can I give a suggestion saying that is not worth displaying?04:01
stuzz78hello...  i'm trying to make a local repo of xubuntu-desktop to burn on cd, and install on non-internet computer, but dpkg-scanpagkages keep say stuff about the override file even tho i use /dev/null (doing this from a 5.10 server install04:01
harisundimc_ are you still there?04:02
_jasonruxpin: yeah, definitely seems to work as long as you source bashrc in your .bash_profile04:02
_jasonruxpin: you've checked for any kind of syntax error?04:03
IceToxhum... I know "eject cdrom" works for opening the cdrom in terminal.. Now, what is the command to close it?04:03
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ssw2i zapped pram still not working04:03
harisundIceTox: I really don't know if there is anything that can do that on any operating system at all?04:03
luigiI HAVE NO CLUE HOW TO USE LINUX... WILL SOMEONE LEAD ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION PLEASE04:03
tritiumluigi: lose the all-caps please04:04
luigisorry04:04
tritiumthanks04:04
_jasonluigi: what are you trying to do?04:04
ruxpin_jason: it works if I type . .bashrc04:04
TennesseeBack.04:04
ruxpin_jason: I'll double check04:04
IceToxharisund, I know it's possible :-) I though maybe mount /media/cdrom would work, but it didn't.. So now, I'm stuck here with an open cdrom in front of me, and I'm determited to close it by command! :-)04:04
luigiget my driver for my ati x600 graphic card04:04
backzis ubuntu a great distro for servers? I'll make a web/file server, I've trouble if I'll use debian or ubuntu.. suggestions ?04:04
harisundIceTox: haha.. All the best ! Do inform me if you find the commadn to do it. I would be very grateful.04:04
ruxpin_jason: my .bash_history is three lines, all source /this/and/that04:05
IceToxwill do harisund.. :-) It's the one way to learn ;)04:05
Tennesseebackz: It's a pretty good distro, but straight debian might be better.04:05
ruxpin_jason: sorry, meant .bash_profile04:05
Tennesseebackz: You won't run into anything insoluble, IMHO.04:05
VideoToastercafuego:  Well, I didn't find anything to disable it, but I did find that my contacts and calendar just stopped working.  :-P04:05
harisundbackz: Depends on what you are looking for. I have a successful Ubuntu machine running File server, SSH server, telnet server, gnump3d music streaming server, VLC video streaming server, and samba server04:05
_jasonruxpin: set some dummy environment variable and see if bash_profile is actually getting sourced I guess04:05
ruxpin_jason: and the other things aren't sourced either, my aliases don't work04:05
VideoToastercafuego:  When I open Contacts, it asks for my password.  When I enter it, it says something about not finding search term.04:05
cafuego<heh>04:05
Jowibackz: well, one thing that ubuntu is good at is sane default configurations for different servers. most other distros i've tried need extensive tweaking.04:06
VideoToastercafuego:  It just worked an hour ago!04:06
harisundJowi: I agree with you on that.04:06
ruxpin_jason: if I type 'bash' they're sourced.. so it has got to do with ssh04:06
harisundruxpin and _jason, Mind if I pitch in? (sorry if I am being rude..)04:07
_tylerdefault text editor for KDE.. what is it?04:07
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_jasonharisund: ho ahead, I don't know what's going on04:07
_jasongo*04:07
ruxpinharisund: no problme04:07
DenyerecAnyone here run a dyn-dns client on Ubuntu as a daemon/service ?04:07
harisundThanks guys .. what's up?04:07
VideoToastercafuego:  Same thing for Calendar.  Any ideas?04:07
Tennesseebrb again ... finding food.04:07
backzTennessee, harisund: I've a server running samba/squid/ssh/apache2 with breezy (5.10) and I get some problems with some packages. Eg: iptables, samba, it appears to be 'bit unstable'04:07
JowiDenyerec: i did, until i got a router that supported it :)04:07
ruxpinharisund: my .bash_profile isn't evaluated when I login via ssh04:07
DenyerecA hardware router  that supports dyndns? Neat...04:08
DenyerecDo you remember which client you ran ?04:08
luigihow did you guy learn how to use linux?04:08
backzharisund, must I use Xorg on a apache2/samba/squid server?04:08
harisundruxpin: That is the problem with bash. There is a .bash_login, a .bashrc, a .bash_profile04:08
Falstiusluigi, very painfully back when it was much more difficult.  You kids today have it easy.04:08
JowiDenyerec: yeah, it's a basic netgear one. I used ddclient04:08
harisundbackz: Nope, I don't have it running for apache2 and samba, but I don't know about squid though. I wouldn't expect it though.04:09
Jowi!info ddclient04:09
ubotuddclient: (Update dynamic IP address at DynDNS.org), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 3.6.2-3ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 39 kB, Installed size: 244 kB04:09
Denyerecddclient... yeah that says you can run it as a daemon...04:09
Denyerecbut doesn't specify how to get it into the startup scripts :S04:09
Denyerec<-- not particularly good with Ubuntu04:09
_jasonruxpin: are you using ssh keys or your password?04:09
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harisundruxpin: I have a .bashrc and a .bash_profile, and everything works.04:09
harisundThe .bash_profile sources the .bashrc.04:09
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harisundAnd _jason, it works both using keys without passwords and through straight forward password authentication.04:10
VideoToastercafuego:  "Unable to perform search.  This query did not complete successfully."04:10
imc_Hey, harisund, got a queston for you04:10
harisundimc_ I have one for you too. Anyway, go ahead.04:10
ruxpin_jason: passwords04:10
luigiwhere should i start with linux?04:10
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harisundluigi: It depends on what you want to do .04:10
imc_I am getting a transfer rate of....Geez, 450B )not Kbps but B. The estinmated time of my transfer is a cozy 14 days. Anyting I could have done wrong?04:11
ruxpinharisund: the same bash conf works on other distros I mentioned, but not on that ubuntu box (I haven't set it up)04:11
Denyerecluigi without a task to complete, learning anything is tiresome.04:11
_jasonruxpin: me too, so that couldn't be why04:11
harisundluigi: I setup Linux for my mom, and she uses it just like she used her Windows machine, and doesn't know a single difference between the two.04:11
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harisundimc_ That's real bad.04:11
JowiDenyerec: it was quite a while ago (read a year or more) since i used it. i don't really remember how. maybe this will point you in the right direction: http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-689.html04:11
ruxpinharisund: that makes me wonder if there's something specifically odd with ubuntu04:11
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DenyerecRock on Jowi, many thanks.04:11
imc_Mmmm04:11
harisundimc_ I really am not sure .. maybe there is something else hogging the connection?04:11
luigii want to learn how open files and install them by useing the terminal04:12
harisundimc_ Just check what other open ports are on yourmachine using the "sudo netstat -plant" command.04:12
backzTennessee, then, do you prefer debian on servers than ubuntu? In my case, it will be a intranet-server-machine. With RAID on mobo (two HD's), mysql database, apache2, squid, iptables, sshd...04:12
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harisundruxpin: I don't know. What did you say your configuration was?04:12
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harisundruxpin: What are the files you are using?04:12
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imc_harisund, which machine the server or client04:12
ruxpinharisund: .bashrc and .bash_profile04:12
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harisundimc_ I would look in both. But I am really sorry, I don't think I can be of much help here.04:12
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luigii want to learn how open files and install them by useing the terminal04:13
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Hexidigitalhas anyone used the QEMU program (for emulating operating systems)?04:13
harisundruxpin: That's the same two that I have. What command / commands are not working?04:13
imc_No worries but thanks so much!04:13
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ruxpinharisund: and .bash_profile has just source /etc/profile; source /etc/aliasrc; source ~/.bashrc on three lines of course04:13
harisundimc_ A quick question.04:13
imc_yes?04:13
harisundimc_ You are using GAim, right?04:13
imc_Yes04:13
TennesseeBackz: I don't have a huge experience with debian, but as I understand it, it's (a) older, and (b) has more control over the boot process.04:13
ruxpinharisund: seems they're not evaluated at ssh logon for my normal user (for root they work ok)04:13
TennesseeBackz: I find the boot process in debian to be more sensible. But as for the stability of particular packages, I'm not so sure which is better04:14
harisundimc_ Do you know a way to prevent Gaim IRC to prevent displaying the messages "<> has joined the room" and "<> has left the room"04:14
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Tennesseewb King04:14
ruxpinharisund: well actually root doesn't even have .bash_profile :o04:14
harisundruxpin: I am thinking the fact that /etc/profile is being source could be a problem.04:14
imc_Wow.....No I'm sorry, harisund, I don04:14
imc_t04:14
King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: that was the strangest thing ever04:14
mcf501Does anyone have problems with GNOME-Mud crashing in Dapper?04:14
harisundimc_ yeah.. that's fine. no problem.04:14
King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: my linux crashed again04:14
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MrRiohow do i get colours in vim?04:14
TennesseeKing: Bummer. What kind of crash?04:14
Hexidigitalharisund, i dont think you can disable those messages in gaim for ICR04:14
HexidigitalIRC04:14
King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: but at the same time my linux crashed, my windows got kicked off IRC04:15
King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: my power started going all funky04:15
harisundHexidigital: I was afraid of that. Maybe we need to right it on our own, eh?04:15
stuzz78can anyone help? when i do: dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -9c > Packages.gz it says "Packages in archive but missing from override file"  I thought dev/null took the override file out of the equation04:15
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TennesseeKing: Probably a problem with the mains electricity. I doubt linux did that. :)04:15
Hexidigitalharisund, perhaps... or send a option request to the gaim developers04:15
King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: maybe, but it was odd04:15
ruxpinharisund: removed that.. didn't help04:15
King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: I am now running the memtest86+04:15
King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: 'cause I don't think it was my video card04:16
harisundruxpin: hang on..04:16
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imc_Anyway thanks so much for the help!04:16
King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: If you didn't hear about my problems before we started talking X, then you have alot of catching up to do04:17
stuzz78how do you count the number of files in  a directory?04:17
harisundruxpin: My .bash_profile merely has ". ~/.bashrc"04:17
harisundruxpin: You know that the "." command does the same thing as the source command does, right?04:17
TennesseeKing: I wasn't in the channel before then...04:17
mcf501!Mud04:17
ubotumcf501: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:17
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mcf501!gnome-mud04:17
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mcf50104:17
King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: yeah, my big problem is that my linux keeps crashing04:17
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King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: so far I have replaced the cmos battery and the video card04:18
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TennesseeKing: Do you know about /var/log/messages?04:18
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harisundruxpin: I am thinking you can put everything you want in .bashrc, and then have the single line ". ~/.bashrc" in your .bash_profile file.04:18
ruxpinharisund: I know that04:18
King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: not really04:18
patrick24601ARe there any good references for running Ubuntu on  a tablet pc?04:18
TennesseeKing: I don't really either, but I know it exists. In fact, there are a bunch of files in /var/log which log various subsystems. If you have a crash and linux can detect it, it might be logged in theree.04:19
harisundruxpin: What does your .bashrc have? It has everything you want, right?04:19
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King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: neato04:19
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_jasonruxpin: I'd be curious to see if you make a brand new dummy user and have a simple bash_profile sourcing .bashrc and changing just your PS1 to see if it works04:19
aboohi04:19
_jasonI wish I could write english04:20
_jasonaboo: hello04:20
ruxpinharisund: just two lines:04:20
ruxpinsource /etc/aliasrc04:20
ruxpinPS1="\[\033[01;32m\] \u\[\e[37;1m\] @\[\033\] \h \[\033[01;34m\] \w # \[\033\] "04:20
King-Of-No-PantsTennessee: I have had different kinds of crashes. One random reboot, a ton of straight into console mode without warning, and a few lock ups04:20
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aboocan i write chinese ? hehe04:20
_jason!zh04:20
ubotuFor support in Chinese, please try the channel #ubuntu-zh.04:20
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harisundruxpin: And when you login you are not getting a changed prompt, si that what the problem is?04:20
ruxpin_jason: I'll try that04:20
linuxgeekeryKing-Of-No-Pants, random reboot? That could be a hardware problem04:20
ruxpinharisund: yes, I'll get the plain black-and-white prompt, and no aliases04:21
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abooubotu, thanks!hehe04:21
ubotugraag gedaan, aboo04:21
King-Of-No-Pantslinuxgeekery: i am running memtest8604:21
linuxgeekeryKing-Of-No-Pants, oh!04:21
richard_hello all04:21
harisundruxpin: I would suggest you put that PS1 line inside ~/.bashrc, and then in ~/.bash_profile, have a line that looks like ". ~/.bashrc"04:21
harisundThat is how I have it.04:21
King-Of-No-Pantslinuxgeekery: And I am reluctant to replace the PSU, since the fan from it is the only thing cooling the processor04:21
linuxgeekeryKing-Of-No-Pants, get another fan! :P04:22
_jasonharisund: thing is, it works fine when he types 'bash'04:22
King-Of-No-Pantslinuxgeekery: no place to put it in this case04:22
linuxgeekeryKing-Of-No-Pants, oh...04:22
King-Of-No-Pantslinuxgeekery: Its a PII04:22
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VideoToastercafuego:  Fixed calendar/contacts/etc... it was because I had it set to use a secure password instead of plain text.  :-P04:22
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linuxgeekeryKing-Of-No-Pants, ah! I thought it was a more recent one... :P04:22
harisund_jason: I don't know much, but there are two types of shells. When you type in bash, one type gets started. When you log in through SSH, another type gets started.04:22
ruxpinharisund: this conf works for my newly created testuser!04:22
jsestri2is there a script that gets run when a user logs in, while in gnome?04:22
harisundruxpin: Which conf? Your old conf? The one that doesn't work for you?04:23
VideoToasterIs it possible to set a default message sort order in Evolution?04:23
ruxpinharisund: yes...04:23
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_jasonharisund: ah good points, when you type bash it's not a login shell I believe04:23
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KingOfNoPantsJeez!04:23
_jasonruxpin: see if it works with 'bash --login' ?04:23
KingOfNoPantslinuxgeekery: Slot 1 Baby!04:24
ruxpinharisund: but if I copy those two files for my own user, now they don't work *sigh*04:24
Falstiusruxpin: _jason: trying bash -lv might help, -v makes it list the contents of the scripts it reads .. make sure to have a LONG scroll buffer though.04:24
ruxpin_jason: it's fine then04:24
KingOfNoPantslinuxgeekery: If I put in this other PSU, there will be nothing blowing over the processor04:24
harisund_jason yeah, there is something called an interactive shell and non interactive shell too. Don't know much about that.04:24
KingOfNoPantslinuxgeekery: and PIIs only have heatsinks04:24
linuxgeekeryKing-Of-No-Pants: Really?04:24
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harisundruxpin: As much as I hate to say that, looks like I am stumped too.04:24
ruxpinharisund, _jason: the problem is with ssh. my new user doesn't eval .bashrc though ssh login :/04:24
KingOfNoPantsTennessee: I can't catch a break04:24
KingOfNoPantslinuxgeekery: really04:25
harisundruxpin:04:25
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harisundI don't think it does.04:25
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TennesseeKing: Hard to fix hardware problems. Tough to diagnose.04:25
harisundThat is why you need it to evaluate by calling ". ~/.bashrc" in your ~/.bash_profile. Can you just try that one last time?04:25
KingOfNoPantslinuxgeekery: they can be fun, and terrifying04:25
harisundruxpin: Just have ". ~/.bashrc" in your .bash_profile, and have the pS1 line in your ~/.bashrc file.04:25
ruxpinharisund: I've got that line in there..04:25
KingOfNoPantswell, im 30% completed with my memtest04:26
Falstiusruxpin: I haven't been paying attention, but are you sure your login shell is bash?04:26
harisundruxpin: Then I am clueless :( bad04:26
ruxpinharisund: that's exatcly what I've had all the time..04:26
ruxpinFalstius: for ssh, let me check that04:26
harisundAha, excellent point Falstius.04:26
TennesseeKing: A friend of mine once hacked a hole in the side of his case and installed a huge mofo fan. Cooled the thing right down...04:26
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KingOfNoPantsTennessee: A friend of mine did that, too04:26
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KingOfNoPantsTennessee: I'll just have to see if there is a Fan power prong on the mobo04:27
ruxpinFalstius: /etc/ssh/sshd_config doesn't define a shell04:27
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KingOfNoPantsTennessee: And then I'll have to hack a hole into the case, which will be hard because im not handy in any way04:27
Falstiusruxpin: no it won't, and it should use whatever is in /etc/passwd04:27
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_jasonruxpin: echo $SHELL04:28
TennesseeKing: Maybe get a new case? Or if it's old, just run it nude?04:28
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Falstius_jason: never trust the $SHELL variable ...04:28
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CNAPfalstius: what are the other shells that we can run?04:28
ruxpin_jason: Falstius: ahh, SHELL=/bin/sh04:28
_jasonFalstius: is there a better way?04:28
KingOfNoPants_My connection keeps resetting itself04:28
_jasonFalstius: nice catch04:29
ruxpin_jason: Falstius: that solved it :D04:29
KingOfNoPants_anyone in here know alot about irc?04:29
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ruxpin_jason: Falstius: I defined the shell in /etc/passwd04:29
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KingOfNoPants_or in some position of power in it?04:29
Falstius_jason: ps will tell you your current shell ..04:30
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FalstiusI've seen too many login scripts to redefine SHELL for compatibility (like tcsh claiming to be csh)04:30
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ruxpin_jason, Falstius, harisund: many thanks to you :)04:30
harisundruxpin: Learnt something new today, didn't we?04:30
harisund:D04:30
jsestri2what is there a way to run a script when a user logs into gnome?04:30
_jasonjsestri2: ~/.gnomerc04:31
jsestri2_jason: sweet thanks04:31
stuzz78can anyone help me with dpkg-scanpackages?04:31
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hikenbootwould ubuntu make a good distribution for basing pxes thin clients from ...other recommendations ?04:32
DrBanzaiHow would I go about uninstalling amorok, so I can reinstall it fresh?  I think mine is all messed up04:32
DenyerecJowi...04:32
Denyereccare if I pick your brain just a little more?04:32
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Jowiyeah Denyerec. pick away04:33
stuzz78DrBanzai:  can you not apt-get remove amorok?04:33
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DrBanzaistuzz78, I'm not sure that I installed it using apt-get...but I haven't really tried yet...04:33
chadhows it going everyone04:34
stuzz78DrBanzai: do you have to install something with apt-get to remove it with apt-get?04:34
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batmancan someone tell me what program i need to burn off mdf/mds files?04:35
DrBanzaistuzz78, I don't know, but apt-get remove worked.  Thanks...04:35
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francolqanyone could install wine on AMD64 (ubuntu breezy)?04:36
chadcould someone help me figure out how to get UT2004 running? I believe I have it installed.04:36
stuzz78DrBanzai: np...  glad i could help...  now, does anyone know aboud dpkg-scanpackages?04:36
pipfrancolq, how do you find Bochs?04:36
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francolqpip: sorry, i dont know what is Bochs...04:37
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Falstiusfrancolq: I did but I did it in a 32bit changeroot environment.04:37
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mlowestuzz78, what about scanpackages04:38
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naliothyou ops can unban them04:39
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nalioththey are being k-lined as we speak04:39
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Hobbseenalioth: oh goody04:39
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TennesseeWahooo.04:39
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lilonalioth: +R would probably be better04:40
cafuegoOh poo, I missed all the fun!04:40
Madpilotfun on #ubuntu... :P04:40
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naliothlilo: it is +R04:40
NullVectorHello all04:40
naliothlilo: our forwarding abilty has been locked out by more senior operators04:40
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NullVectorcould someone help me out, New to Linux, and attempting to get Ut2004 running. I believe I was able to get it successfully installed.04:41
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NullVectorcan anyone read this?04:43
HobbseeNullVector: yes04:43
NullVectorty04:43
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NullVectorwould I be right in assuming that SH files are equivalent to exe files?04:44
ajmitchhello Hobbsee04:44
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naliothNullVector: sort of and not quite04:45
NafaiNullVector: If you are familiar with windows/dos, .sh files are a lot like .bat files04:45
naliothNullVector: sh files are more likened to .bat files04:45
NullVectorTY Nafai04:45
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NullVectorso what type of file would I use to luanch a game?04:46
NullVectorbin?04:47
WoCNullVector, if you installed it, it should have installed a startup script for it, try ut<tab> for possible names of the startup script04:49
NullVectorty04:50
WoCnp04:50
WoCfound it?04:50
WoCBusy Playing, I reckon04:53
jkeyes0good for him. always good to see someone happy with linux04:53
WoCAye ;] 04:53
hikenbootanyone in here have experience runnig pxes under ubunto or other distro?04:54
jkeyes0since we're here... any idea how ubuntu fares as a firewall? I've got IPCop and I'm sure it will meet my needs... I just prefer Ubuntu.04:54
NullVectorWoC: where would I do this UT<tab> slightly confused?04:54
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WoCoh04:54
jkeyes0oh, in a terminal window04:54
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Trixyhey guys, I'm new to ununtu and I have a small problem. When I play fullscreen video with VLC or TVtime or anything like that, I have horizontal noise in the image that gets more noticeable the larger I make the window (it's very noticeable in fullscreen mode, and fairly noticeable in a maximized window). What causes that and how can I fix it? This is pretty much a straight install with vlc added04:56
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WoCI don't remember the name of the startup script, haven't had it installed since it came out... but I chances are it would be named something like ut* so if you are using bash, using ut<tab> will show all commands starting with ut04:57
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jkeyes0@Trixy: what sort of video card do you have?04:57
Trixynvidia geforce 6800gt04:57
antarusnalioth: nothing lately?04:57
NullVectorWoC: so from terminal type "bash Ut"04:57
slavikWoC: installing ut2k4?04:58
jkeyes0Trixy: did you install updated nvidia drivers?04:58
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WoCslavik, NullVector is trying to run it, not me04:58
Trixythere are updated drivers? linux is not the same as it was five years ago04:58
Trixyno I haven't04:58
imc_Hey, trying to get my USB hard drive to mount - no soap. ANy suggestions?04:58
slavikoh04:58
slavikok04:58
slavikNullVector: whatcha trying to do?04:58
jkeyes0:) let me look at the ubuntuforums site to find you a link on installing the newest drivers.04:58
NullVectorSlavik, I am, well, trying to run it, I assume I have it installed properly04:58
francolq_Flastius: remember me? had a mess with IRC...04:58
imc_It's basically a little notebook harddrive in a usb mounted case04:58
francolq_Falstius: remember me? had a mess with IRC...04:59
imc_The little lights are on, but It wont show up in df04:59
francolq_Falstius: I've heard about the 32bit environment... it could help me with a lot of problems... is there any wiki that explains how to do that?04:59
Trixythanks jkeyes04:59
slavikNullVector: what dir did you install it in?05:00
NullVectorHome/games/ut200405:00
jkeyes0https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia05:00
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King-of-no-pantsbout time I got back in05:00
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blindxI need some help with fonts.....05:01
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blindxnevermind, figured it out05:03
King-of-no-pantscool05:03
cycomhey, anyone else having smeg complian that there is no module named MenuHandler?05:03
NullVectorSlavik: home/games/ut2004, don't know if you saw me post it the first time05:04
King-of-no-pantsanyone know how long a memtest should take to run?05:04
Jahootyanyone know how to find out the length of time left on an ip adress lease?05:04
King-of-no-pantslinux or windows?05:04
Jahootyme?05:04
King-of-no-pantsyeah05:04
Jahootylinux05:04
Jahootybut i'm behind a netgear nat wireless router05:04
King-of-no-pantscan't help you there... lol, Im new at this linux thing.  Expert with the windows.05:05
Jahootyhow would i do it in windows?05:05
King-of-no-pantsmaybe ifconfig05:05
NullVectoripconfig /all05:05
NullVectorthat will give you the ip dhcp release date05:05
Jahootyahh05:05
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Jahootyok, but how do i find out how much longer my router has it's WAN ip for?05:05
Jahootyi don't care about my ip on the network05:06
NullVectorif you want to release and renew the commands are ipconfig /release05:06
NullVectorand ipconfig /renew05:06
Apostle^Jahooty: whats the isp ?05:06
Jahootysbc/yahoo05:06
Apostle^is it pppoe ?05:06
slavikNullVector: try ut2004 in terminal05:06
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Jahootywhat i want to do is make a python or bash script to sent a message over say yahoo messenger with my ip adress for an ftp server05:06
cycomnano /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases05:07
Jahootybut i want it to know when to check again05:07
cycomJahooty: that'll tell you the ip lease05:07
jkeyes0you could use a service like dyndns.org?05:07
NullVectorSlavik: I am new to linux here, is there anything else I need to type in the terminal? If not, it says command not found05:07
Apostle^Jahooty: why don't you make a no-ip account05:07
cycomJahooty: what jkeyes0 .  that's what I do.05:07
Jahootywhat's a no-ip account?05:07
Apostle^Jahooty: it will update your ip to a name like Jahooty.no-ip.or05:07
Apostle^g05:07
Apostle^and it will always be the same05:07
cycomJahooty: free, and it gives you a net address and a client to automatically update so your name will always point to your correct IP05:07
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Hobbseecycom: now that sounds cool05:08
slavikhmm05:08
cycomHobbsee: hrm?05:08
Jahootyis nano ubuntu specific?05:08
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slavikNullVector: go to the dir and into System05:08
Hobbseecycom: the no-ip thing05:08
slavikand fire up the sh script automatically05:08
cycomJahooty: nah. it's a command line editor for a lot of linux distros05:08
PwcrLinuxyea, I use dyndns domain for my videophone..05:08
slavikit is named ut2004.sh I think05:08
jkeyes0Jahooty: http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/05:08
NullVectorwhich sh script?05:08
cycomHobbsee: never done that before? I've got dyndns for my addy.05:08
Jahootyahh, so use whatever editor?05:08
slavikI deleted ut2k4 from my laptop, so can't say what it is05:08
cycomJahooty: exactly05:08
Hobbseecycom: no i havent...05:08
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cycomHobbsee: I had that set up in highschool so I could ssh home from a school machine all the time and chat on IRC.05:09
NullVectorSlavik: there are no SH scripts in the system dir of UT2004, there is one in the main dir, when I attempted to fire that up directly nothing happens.05:09
Jahootythat wont work05:09
cycomNow after a year off and two semesters in college, I use it so I can open an ssh tunnel and VNC into the machine05:09
Hobbseecycom: hehe nice05:09
cycomJahooty: you may need to sudo.05:09
Jahootyi need to know my internet IP05:09
Jahootynot my LAN ip05:09
NullVectorSlavik: if I run it from a terminal I get this /ut2004-bin: error while loading shared libraries: ./libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:10
cycomJahooty: it'll automatically update with your internet IP05:10
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Jahootyok05:10
slavikahh05:10
Falstiuscycom: why vnc?05:10
slavikinstall libSDL then05:10
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Jahootythat file is empty05:10
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cycomFalstius: because I don't have to do any funky stuff.  Just turn on remote desktop in gnome.05:10
NullVectorassuming I can get that with apt?05:10
cycomJahooty: I dunno then.  I'd do the dyndns thing.  It's free, and easy to configure.  Really nice.05:11
Apostle^yea i use the no-ip one.05:11
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Apostle^only had to mess with it once to install, it works and you never see it:-P05:11
cycomFalstius: I'm not too worried about people sniffing my connection since I've got that nice ssh tunnel going on.05:11
PwcrLinuxif you have router box and you can add the dyndns services to make auto update IP that will not get expired..  without a router, you have to update manually on dyndns website05:11
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cycomPwcrLinux: incorrect.  there are clients for linux that will auto-update.05:12
Apostle^PwcrLinux: not true.. you can just use the linux client05:12
cycomApostle^: :)05:12
Apostle^cycom: :-P05:12
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PwcrLinuxcycom: Apostle^ no, according to router manual online05:12
Apostle^well it's wrong .05:12
Falstiuscycom: I'm not critcizing, just curious if you had a special reason.05:13
cycomPwcrLinux: yeah, you should always trust strangers on IRC over the written docs ;)05:13
Apostle^haha05:13
cycomFalstius: Nope! Just goin with what works :)05:13
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bliss1_hi05:13
NullVectorwhere and how do I install libsdl1.2-dev05:14
jadaz87!fakeroot05:14
ubotujadaz87: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:14
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PwcrLinuxApostle^: you'll find out, I have only knew how..05:14
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Apostle^?05:14
cycomFalstius: Plus I can spawn a vnc server that'll have a nice resolution to fit on my laptop screen.05:14
Apostle^PwcrLinux: what ?05:14
PwcrLinuxApostle^: learn05:14
Apostle^PwcrLinux: what are you talking about05:14
IceToxIf I wanna open a .txt document in graphics, but wanna do it using terminal.. How do I do that?05:15
Falstiuscycom: I just find it too slow from my home machine.  I tend to use screen.05:15
King-of-no-pantshow long should a memtest run?05:15
Apostle^King-of-no-pants: hours i think05:15
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cycomFalstius: that's what I do for IRC and stuff, but for azureus I want VNC05:15
King-of-no-pantseek!05:15
bliss1_what is the difference between doing rm -rf  tools.3.0.1 and doing gksudo natalius going into that directory and highlight and hit delete botton05:15
King-of-no-pantsI'll have to leave it on overnight05:15
DBObliss1_, doing it with nautilus sends it to the trash can05:16
_jasonbliss1_: nautilus will put it in ~/.Trash05:16
NullVectorI need to install libsdl1.2-dev, can someone lend a hand?05:16
cycomFalstius: what kind of connection do you have?05:16
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Apostle^NullVector: sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev05:16
NullVectorsudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev05:16
PwcrLinuxApostle^: well, you learn to how to put the dns services on those routers.. I've experince all done..05:16
Apostle^PwcrLinux: do you speak english ?05:17
Apostle^we already told you it's not necessary05:17
NullVectormight help if I put it in the terminal05:17
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Apostle^NullVector: it might ;-p05:17
alex_hey i installed ubuntu and05:17
Falstiuscycom: cable broadcam .. actually I haven't tried it to my apartment, but my parents have a 10mb/s up limit so when I'm admining their machine its kind of painful to use vnc.05:17
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alex_it says my repositories are broken05:17
francolq_Falstius: sorry if i bother too much: can you tell me a couple of tips for installing 32 bit wine in my AMD64 ubuntu?05:17
PwcrLinuxApostle^: yep and you didn't tell me "not necessary"..05:17
panoramixqualcuno mi puo aiutare?05:17
cycomFalstius: 10mbit /s?05:17
_jason!es05:18
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:18
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nickrud!it05:18
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:18
Falstiuscycom: sorry, 10 kbit/s :)05:18
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_jasonoh I need to learn my italian05:18
cycomFalstius: I was about to soil myself :)05:18
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rcastroHI!!!!05:18
_jasonalex_: what says they are broken?05:18
bliss1_DBO/ _jason thanks05:18
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NullVectorApostle: after installing that, do I need to log out and back in? or am I good to go?05:18
panoramixci sono canali italiani?05:18
nickrudpanoramix, #ubuntu-it05:19
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ssw2ok i have a blue and white apple g3 and when i try to boot the ubuntu 5.10 ppc cd I get this error    PCI@80000000/PCI-BRIDGE@D/MAC-IO@5/ATA-3@20000/DISK@0:2,YABOOT.CONF:Unknown or corrupt filesystem05:19
panoramixgrazie nick05:19
ssw2then it gives me a boot prompt05:19
Falstiusfrancolq_: you really want to install a 32bit version of wine .. either by compiling it yourself in 32bit mode or running the version from the winehq in a 32bit change environment.  You can google for how to set up a 32bit environment.05:19
ssw2I have apple cd drive05:19
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Emskoyou're trying to install linux on a mac?05:20
ssw2yes05:20
alex__jason i re-installed ubuntu05:20
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Madpilotidiots...05:20
Apostle^...05:20
Hobbseedarn, i cant spell05:21
cycomFalstius: damn.05:21
nickrudbummer05:21
_jasonalex_: what does 'sudo aptitude update' do in a terminal?05:21
Jahootywhat the hell is wrong with people?05:21
PwcrLinuxoh boy05:21
cycomer.. make that everyone.  Sorry Falstius05:21
Apostle^owned with /clear05:21
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Falstiuscycom: this time I'm innocent! ;)05:21
cycomJahooty: too much free time and not enough beatings.05:21
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nickrudcycom, +105:21
cycomhrm?05:21
_jasonalex_: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ to give us the output05:22
nickrudnot enough beatings (or sense)05:22
NullVectorStill no go for ut for me, Will try again tomorrow.05:22
cycomnickrud: heh.05:22
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Apostle^hm.05:24
Apostle^i wonder why people just don't write bots that register05:25
nickrudApostle^, you should never repeat that in public05:25
cycomApostle^: because they're not very bright to begin with?05:25
Apostle^nickrud: sorry lol.05:25
ssw2ok05:25
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ssw2should i repost my original message05:25
nickrudssw2, yes, it scrolled away05:26
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ssw2ok i have a blue and white apple g3 and when i try to boot the ubuntu 5.10 ppc cd I get this error    PCI@80000000/PCI-BRIDGE@D/MAC-IO@5/ATA-3@20000/DISK@0:2,YABOOT.CONF:Unknown or corrupt filesystem05:26
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nickrudssw2, oh, that one :) I don't have a mac05:26
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ssw2help anybody05:26
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spolcydhello: I cannot boot into the first stage install....It freezes on the HW detection part. A few months I was given a boot-time option to pass and it fixed it. But I have forgetten it..Does anyone know. This is a AMD 64Bit system.05:27
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ssw2?05:27
nickrudssw2, I'd suggest as a first step verifying the iso. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto . It's not a certain fix, but it's a start05:27
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ssw2Its a cd that i got sent to me for free05:27
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jkeyes0spolcyd: could it be noacpi?05:28
PwcrLinuxgn all :)05:28
gr33npho3nixanybody done xgl on intel i81005:28
ssw2well "cd's"05:28
cycomPwcrLinux: l8rs!05:28
nickrudssw2, there has been some talk here about bad shipits, I'd check.05:28
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spolcydjkeyes0, possibly. How do i pass it?05:28
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phewlhow do i unzip a .bz2 file ?05:28
ssw2Well, 6 cds doing the same thing05:28
ssw2hmm05:28
spolcydjkeyes0,  ie noapci off?05:28
_jason!tar.bz205:28
uboturumour has it, tar.bz2 is a compressed archive similar to a zip file.  tar jxvf filename.tar.bz2 to extract.05:28
Falstiusphewl: bunzip205:28
jadaz87!set mode +R05:28
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jadaz8705:28
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jadaz87:-(05:28
nickrudphewl, bunzip2 <file>05:28
jadaz87does anyone here know how to customize dapper live cd's please say yes05:28
gr33npho3nixits erroring out loading glcore05:28
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naliothjadaz87: may i help you with something?05:29
jadaz87nalioth lilo said to set myself as mode +R05:29
ssw2any solutions05:29
nickrudjadaz87, thats 'only alow registered users', it's an op command05:29
naliothjadaz87: +R is a channel mode05:29
jadaz87nalioth oh i am terribly sorry i did not know that :-(05:30
btaylor5619Can someone help me with an issue I am having with Ubuntu?05:30
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spolcydjkeyes0, how do i pass the boot option>?05:30
nickrudbtaylor5619, it's possible, what's the issue?05:30
ssw2errrr05:30
jadaz87nalioth do you know how to customize dapper live cd's or know anyone i could ask them about?05:30
btaylor5619nicrud, I am trying to find a program that will convert a RPM file to a DEB file.  Do you know of any such program?05:31
nickrudssw2, ask about every 10 minutes, people come and go, and so does the specific knowledge05:31
naliothjadaz87: i do.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo05:31
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jkeyes0spolcyd: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120632 here it says to pass noapic and nolapic, so when it says boot:, you would type "linux noapic nolapic" (someone please correct me if I'm wrong)05:31
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nickrudbtaylor5619, alien. But, its probable that there's a deb for what you want. What are you trying to install?05:31
btaylor5619nickrud, "LimeWire."05:31
nickrud!limewire05:32
ubotufirst you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.05:32
nickrud!rostwire05:32
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nickrud05:32
nickrud!frostwire05:32
jadaz87nalioth that is for breezy not dapper :-(05:32
naliothjadaz87: the principle is the same, my friend05:32
nickrudarg.05:32
nickrud!tell btaylor5619 about frostwire05:32
cycomjadaz87: expand on existing materials!05:32
Jahootyis it a bad idea to run vsftpd as root?05:32
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nickrudbtaylor5619, did you follow those messages?05:32
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jkeyes0spolcyd: you can also try "linux noacpi acpi=off"05:33
nickrudbtaylor5619, more specifically, you don't want the rpm version of limewire.05:33
btaylor5619One moment, nickrud.  I am evaluating the solution.05:33
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cycomspolcyd: hang on, repeat the problem for me real quick?05:33
nickrudbtaylor5619, heh. Frostwire is a good alternative05:34
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btaylor5619nickrud, Very well, I will download it and see what I think of it.05:34
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ssw2Repost:-- ok i have a blue and white apple g3 and when i try to boot the ubuntu 5.10 ppc cd I get this error  PCI@80000000/PCI-BRIDGE@D/MAC-IO@5/ATA-3@20000/DISK@0:2,YABOOT.CONF:Unknown or corrupt filesystem  cds are shipments from canonical inc. and i have tried all of my ppc edition cds(install & Live) and get the same error.I have 3 ppc cd sets.05:34
nickrudbtaylor5619, do you have java installed yet? if not, type !javadebs in this channel for info on getting java for either limewire or frostwire05:35
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btaylor5619Installing Java was the first thing I did when I first installed Ubuntu.05:35
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bimberissw2: try this (last post) -  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=13789805:36
btaylor5619And the Frostwire site appears to be down, because I am getting a 404 response when I attempt to access the site root.05:36
_morphiusI'm trying to set up an anonymous ftp server. It works OK when I connect from behind my router, but from the other side, I can only use command line ftp. This unfortunately won't work for users who are too dumb to be able to use another type of FTP client (I just want to keep it simple) and allow them to use IE so that they can connect and copy their data in a familiar way. Does anyone have and Idea why this setup might be causeing this issue?05:36
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nickrudfrostwire came up for me05:36
jadaz87nalioth cycom  i thought the livecd was built different05:36
cycombecause IE sucks? :)05:37
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BonesmasherHey folks I'm in Fedora05:37
BonesmasherI wiped out my Ubuntu install05:37
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BonesmasherNow I regret it :)05:37
_morphiusI did too bones05:37
Falstius_morphius: maybe one is using FTP and another SFTP?05:37
cycom_morphius: is it going to a http address or a ftp one?05:37
HexidigitalBonesmasher... what would make you do such a thing?05:37
btaylor5619Wait -- I got it... The website root is /static, instead of /, right?05:37
jkeyes0aww... good news is Ubuntu is easy to switch back to05:37
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_morphiusan ftp one.05:38
nickrudhitting enter a bunch of times is about as easy as it gets I would think05:38
BonesmasherHexidigital, well all the consulting firms use Red Hat05:38
Bonesmasher_morphius, You are in Fedora right now?05:38
btaylor5619Well, guys, I guess that's it.  I'll come back if I have any problems.05:39
jadaz87nalioth cycom i am a windows server 2003 expert linux "newbie" that needs direct commands for the differences between the two sets of live cds05:39
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HexidigitalBonesmasher:  two words... Free Will  :)05:39
CiderJackmic check05:39
_morphiusI don't even have a port open when nmaping for sftp. I'm sure that I'm not using it. Windows ftp (command line and IE) don't support sftp anyway.05:39
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HexidigitalCiderJack, you're good05:39
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cycomjadaz87: never done it. Sorry m8.05:39
CiderJackThanks Hexi :)05:39
Hexidigital:)05:39
BonesmasherHexidigital, I don't get your point but anyway this sucks05:39
_morphiusI just hated yum bones05:39
HexidigitalBonesmasher, i meant... free will to do what YOU want.... not what the crowd does05:39
Bonesmasher_morphius, yum?05:40
Bonesmasheryea05:40
Bonesmasherbut i figure i spend all day stuck in red hat05:40
Bonesmasheri should use it at home to gain experience05:40
_morphius(you have discovered yum right bones?)05:40
cycomBonesmasher: dual boot!05:40
Bonesmasherwhat is yum _morphius ?05:40
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nickrudeschatology is not a well understood phenomenon05:40
_morphiusyum is fedora's version of apt.05:40
ssw2thanks bimberi it worked05:40
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naliothBonesmasher: yellowdog update manager05:40
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bimberissw2: great! :)05:40
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ssw2Probably needs a firmware update05:41
Bonesmashernalioth, sounds cool05:41
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_morphiusyou can acutally get an rpm based version of apt for fedora. I would highly recommend it bones.05:41
Orunitiahow am I supposed to follow these stupid ubuntu wiki guides when half the crap they tell me to install ISN'T in the repositories?!05:41
OrunitiaARGH05:41
BonesmasherThe Fedora chat room is dead or occasionally someone says something rude05:41
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jmoncayocan i get the iostream.h header for making c++ code?05:41
ssw2thanks for the help05:41
ssw2bye05:41
Bonesmasher_morphius, how do i do that05:41
paxredhat is not ubuntu same way guh-noo is not unix. dapper is the start of linux desktop, you are witnessing history ladies and gents. gee I have to take my pills :(05:41
HexidigitalBonesmasher... we're at least glad you came back to the forum... you don't want to hang out with that Fedora folk05:42
Hexidigital:)05:42
_morphiusOrunita, you need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file and uncomment all the extra lines starting with deb.05:42
nickrudpax, pass a few along05:42
wyI have a problem with my proftpd. The clients connect to it too slowly05:42
nickrud_morphius, he's gone already05:42
_morphiusI never got that far and then fedora crashed on me.05:42
BonesmasherHmmm why is my disk churning for no reason05:42
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Bonesmasher?05:42
_morphiusI would search yum for apt05:42
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nickrudBonesmasher, top in a terminal may give you the clue05:42
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jadaz87does anyone here know how to customize dapper live cd's please say yes05:43
nickrudyes (but I lied)05:43
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CiderJackAt least you're an honest liar ;)05:43
_morphiusprobably. It's probably just a squashfs file. Search the net for knoppix remaster squashfs05:44
TimM/exit05:44
TimMaargh!05:44
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phewl!tar.bin05:44
ubotuWish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, phewl05:44
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jadaz87nickrud do you know of anyone?05:44
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nickrudCiderJack, momma beat me when I lied. That's also why I don't play this screw the irc servers games that are going on :)05:44
SoulPropagationIs there an easy way to autodetect sound cards?05:45
CiderJackxcrew the irc servers games?05:45
CiderJack*s05:45
nickrudjadaz87, no, sorry.05:45
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cycomnickrud: I never really got the whole channel flooding thing to begin with.  "Here, let me make myself well known as a complete moron while wasting the time of others!"05:45
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CiderJackOk, I've got an easy one: how much drive space does Ubuntu take when installed?05:46
cycomnickrud: or the bot channel floods "Here, let me BE a complete moron by anonymously wasting the time of others!"05:46
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_jasonCiderJack: 1.8gb is minimum but it depends what you install after that...05:46
cycomCiderJack: not so easy. depends on how you set it up.05:46
SoulPropagationCiderJack: 1.5gb for a normal install05:46
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luisitohello people05:46
CiderJackOk, I'll take the highest number, add a gig and run with that05:47
nickrudcycom, me either. I do that too much as myself to waste that notoriety on anonymity.05:47
SoulPropagationCiderJack: if you have a 10gb+ hard drive you're well in the clear05:47
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jkeyes0jadaz87: so https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo didn't work for you?05:47
SoulPropagationNow then... Is there an easy way to autodetect sound cards? E.g. a command or a package or something to dpkg-reconfigure05:47
cycomCiderJack: What I did is installed a few distros on 10gb partitions and then left about 40gb for /home on a seperate partition. worked like a charm.05:47
CiderJackI ask 'cause I was trying to install on a 6.4gb hdd and it kept crashing05:47
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cycomCiderJack: of course, I use ubuntu almost exclusively.05:47
SoulPropagationCiderJack: 6.4? sounds old; might be dying05:48
luisitohow can I change my default media application to be amaroK?05:48
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_jason!defaultapp05:48
ubotuTo change the default app for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties, then the "Open With" tab and change the setting05:48
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CiderJackCould be, the guy dug it out from the back room, even he was suprised he had it!05:48
SoulPropagationof course I'm using a 7-8-year-old laptop05:48
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_morphiusSoul: ubuntu should auto detect soundcards. You can get output of all your pci devices by doing lspci, if you are just looking for basic model numbers.05:48
CiderJackMy desktop here is over 5 years05:48
StrayhikariQuick question, if I install a fresh install of ubuntu 5.10, and do a aptget distupgrade will it upgrade to Flight 6?05:49
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jadaz87jkeyes0 that is for breezy not dapper05:49
nickrud!upgrade05:49
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.05:49
nickrudStrayhikari, you'd need to do the ubotu link just above05:49
Strayhikariok thanks guys05:49
jkeyes0jadaz87: it's for hoary/breezy. will it explicitly not work for dapper?05:49
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luisito_jason, cool, I know that way, but I have a keyboard that have controls to launch a media application and when I select that key in the Keyboard Shortcuts it opens the Rythmbox and I want amaroK.05:50
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aj^<-- noob;     how do i change the res from 640x480 to more ?05:50
YouCeyEThe package amarok needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.05:51
YouCeyEi am getting this error05:51
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slavikaj^: system -> preferences -> resolution05:51
nickrudYouCeyE, don't paste, put it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/05:51
_jasonluisito: I don't know how to change that explicitly but you can make a new shortcut that uses that key and open amarok05:51
_jasonubotu: tell luisito about shortcuts05:51
YouCeyEk05:51
SoulPropagationof course I'm using a 7-8-year-old laptop05:51
mustard5SoulPropagation, I can think of a debian method of using discover for hardware detection, but I would assume ubuntu would do something similar when it started already05:51
jadaz87jkeyes0 the livecds are setup different05:51
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jkeyes0ahh, ok. my mistake. Never hurts to ask though. :)05:52
mustard5SoulPropagation, I just found the command yesterday while playing with debian from scratch05:52
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luisito_jason, thanks :)05:52
jkeyes0oh well, off to bed. g'night guys.05:52
Jahootyanyone here configured vsftpd before?05:52
SoulPropagationJahooty: yeah, it's easy as pie. man 5 vsftpd.conf05:52
jadaz87Goodnight jkeyes005:53
SoulPropagationmustard5: I believe it worked. Thanks!05:53
mustard5SoulPropagation, what did you use?05:53
IceToxI've made an own /home directory and user for eggdrops at /home/eggdrop. Now, I wanna Access this with my own personal user and want to be able to save the eggdrop files using my own user. How can I do this possible?05:53
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SoulPropagationdiscover05:53
mustard5SoulPropagation, I was thinking of this command invoke-rc.d discover start05:53
SoulPropagationI'm going.... night.05:53
Jahootyi'm getting nothing but errors05:53
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JahootyReason: 500 OOPS: vsftpd: cannot locate user specified in 'ftp_username':ftp.05:53
kwtm1Question: How do I find the files that I have just installed with Adept?  Is there a "apt-get --where-the-****-did-you-stick-the-files" command?  (I just installed PyKDE, and I can't find them under /lib or /usr/lib)05:53
phewlIceTox, you would type sudo chmod 777 -R /home/eggdrop/05:54
SoulPropagationmustard5: will remember if there's a problem05:54
nickrudkwtm1, dpkg -L <packagename> | grep bin for the executable05:54
mustard5SoulPropagation, k :)05:54
SoulPropagationthanks05:54
intelikeykwtm1 apt-file  is good05:54
IceToxphewl, this will give me the total of rights for this folder with it's current files?05:54
AMDXPdo they also have a Edbuntu room?05:54
IceTox#ebuntu05:55
AMDXPok thanks05:55
phewlIceTox, i believe so05:55
cycomAMDXP: and "Channel" not room :)05:55
IceToxoh sorry AMDXP seems like that channel was not in use. :-)05:55
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Strayhikariran into a problem with the 6.06 install disk05:55
AMDXPcycom: sorry used to saying room05:55
cycomnickrud: huh?05:55
IceToxI guess we all like Gnome so much better then AMDXP :-)05:55
nickrudcycom, I had to bite my tongue, room or channel05:56
bimberiAMDXP, IceTox:  it's #edubuntu05:56
AMDXPIceTox: i was wanting to try it for a school05:56
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AMDXPyes i got it thanks05:56
IceToxthanks bimberi :-) Did you get that AMDXP ? #edubuntu :-)05:56
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IceToxgood =)05:56
Strayhikarithe system installed, but the bootloader didn't install, is there anyway to have it install grub after the fact?05:56
intelikeyIceTox gah'nomy   ?     yuch.05:56
kwtm1nickrud:  Thank you... I had to get the exact spelling of the package name, but I think it worked.05:56
bimberiIceTox: np :)05:57
AMDXPi got it thanks i already have Ubuntu on one box and my lappy05:57
kwtm1Is there something where I can type in an approximate package name, in case I don't know the exact one?05:57
AMDXPi wanted to try the other05:57
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IceToxphewl, your tip worked just fine mate.. Thanks a lot for your help =)05:57
intelikeyapt-cache05:57
intelikeykwtm1 ^05:57
_morphiusPersonally, Ice, I Installed enlightenment 17 out of the cvs repo.05:58
nickrudkwtm1, no, spelling is important for that command05:58
cycomAMDXP: heh. I understand.  I'm not a speech nazi or anything, but I try to speak correctly and help others with unfamiliar terms.  I've had plenty of people very rudely tell me that I was being silly for saying Room, box, Distro, etc. etc. etc.05:58
phewlIceTox,  any time05:58
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Toma-cycom: thats when stfu comes into useful effect :)05:58
intelikeynickrud not for apt-cache it's not.   i mean you can input gah'nomy and get gnome but you can put in  gno and get gnome05:59
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cycomToma-: eh? the rude part?05:59
nickrudintelikey, true for apt-cache, not so true for apt-file or dpkg -L05:59
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kwtm1intelikey: Thanks for the advice.  apt-cache seems to show more general info that I would already see in Adept or Synaptic.06:00
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intelikeyerr s/can/can't/   ^     nickrud  yeah.06:00
nickrudintelikey, but obviously you read the question much better than I did :)06:00
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kwtm1intelikey, nickrud: I tried apt-cache PartialPackageName, but it didn't find it.  So it looks like I have to know the package name.06:01
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Toma-cycom: if someone is a jerk, u say stfu06:01
intelikeyit's   apt-cache search  partial-name06:01
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nalioth_zZzToma-: not polite.06:01
kwtm1intelikey, nickrud: "apt-file" didn't find anything at all.  Oh, you mean "search"?  Will try that...06:01
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Toma-oh sorry :|06:02
intelikeykwtm1    man intro    please.06:02
cycomToma-: my response was usually held until they needed help by jumping in and giving them the answer.  After a few times of that, they tend to stfu anyhow.  The next n00b they pwnd for speaking funny I would quietly remind them how they had smacked me around for being a noob too, till I had something they needed.06:02
newbuntieyou guys know what I'm talking about, right, the kingston usb memory thing...after putting that into the usb port, how do I access it?06:02
FlannelKingkwtm1: apt-cache search [stuff] 06:02
polpaknewbuntie, it should just appear on your desktop06:03
kwtm1intelikey, nickrud: Okay, "apt-cache search" works to identify the exact package name, and then I can use "dpkg -L" to show.06:03
newbuntieand if it doesn't?06:03
intelikeykwtm1 that's the idea,  yep.06:03
kwtm1intelikey: What do you mean "man intro"?  I only see an intro to cmd-line linux.06:03
nickrudkwtm1, precisely06:03
OrTigaShi i have USB-to-Serial Cable and theres a driver cd but i dont how to install.. anyone can help me to install?06:03
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kwtm1Ok.  Thanks, FlannelKing, intelikey, nickrud.  Off I go! :)06:04
cycomOrTigaS: have you plugged it in yet?06:04
OrTigaSi plugged it already06:04
intelikeykwtm1 yes.   man is your friend.06:04
polpaknewbuntie, is hotplug running?06:04
_morphiusOrTigaS, I doubt your cd has the linux drivers on it.06:04
cycomdo you have a console open?06:04
cycomOrTigaS: ^06:04
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OrTigaS_morphius theres on the cd06:04
newbuntiepolpak: didn't appear on my desktop, I'd like to check it with the file browser, where would it be in the file dir06:04
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OrTigaScycom yes06:04
newbuntiepolpak: how do I enable or check hotplug? :)06:04
polpaknewbuntie, /media assuming hotplug found/installed it06:05
cycomOrTigaS: don't worry about the driver CD yet. it may have been detected. Type 'dmesg' and see if it's there.06:05
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kwtm1intelikey: I don't know what you mean.  I know about the "man" command, but when tried "man python-kde3-doc", there was no entry.  Some packages just don't have "man" files and I just have to find out where they're stashed.06:05
cycomOrTigaS: or 'lsusb'06:05
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CaminomasterHi06:05
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polpaknewbuntie, ps -auwx | grep hotplug in a console06:05
kwtm1nickrud: you mean "info" and all that?06:05
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patrick24601I don't recall a response to my question about ubuntu on a tablet pc06:05
OrTigaSwhat should be the name?06:05
icemanhelp ... panic ... what would cause ubuntu to just sound 2 dings on startup og gnome .. and then attempt restart ... and repeate restart again and again in a loop06:05
OrTigaSso many appear06:05
CaminomasterSomeone can help me to make rosegarden to ?sound06:05
patrick24601is anybody running it on a tablet pc06:05
nickrudkwtm1, a good method to find the man pages for a package is, dpkg -L <package> | grep man06:05
puchyhola06:05
nalioth_zZzLadies and Gentlemen, I recommend you /msg ubotu register and register your nicks.  We have chances of bot storms and the channel may be made so registered users only can talk06:05
cycomOrTigaS: not sure.  it'll be near the end.  Try unplugging it and plugging it back in and looking for a change.06:06
tritium_nickrud: lowercase l, not L in that case06:06
OrTigaSi found 106:06
puchyalguien que hable espaol?06:06
nickrudtritium, ?06:06
polpak!es06:06
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:06
cycomOrTigaS: what does it say?06:06
carbohey, can anyone recommend a good graphical ftp client?06:06
icemanmy gnome is traped in a loop and will not start06:06
OrTigaSprolific technology inc PL2303 Serial port06:06
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polpakcarbo, places->connect to server ?06:06
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Strayhikariok, I'm at a the rescue terminal at /, is there a way to apt-get grub?06:06
tritium_nickrud: I read your comment wrong, nevermind06:06
CaminomasterWHo uses Rosegarden?06:07
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cycomOrTigaS: good! now what are you hooking up to the serial port?06:07
carbopolpak: wow, never noticed... this uses Nautilus or something?06:07
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OrTigaSbus 001 device 002: id 067b:230306:07
cycomnickrud: keeping score?06:07
OrTigaScycom i'm gonna try the minicom to connect06:07
nickrudcycom, only against my betters06:07
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jmoncayodoes gcc somes by defaul in ubuntu brezee06:07
Madpilotcarbo, yes, it does06:07
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polpakcarbo, yeah06:07
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newbuntiepolpak I get bad ps syntax warning and this and the only process I get back is grep hotplug06:08
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cycomnickrud: all are created equal.06:08
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tritium_jmoncayo: no, you should "sudo apt-get install build-essential"06:08
nickrudcycom, then life goes on06:08
polpaknewbuntie, try sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart06:08
cycomIronhand: in dmesg did you see anything about a /dev/ttySomething?06:08
OrTigaSwhere using hyperterminal or pcplus in windows, so i'm gonna try the minicom if its working same06:08
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cycomIronhand: scratch that. sorry06:09
cycomOrTigaS: in dmesg did you see anything about a /dev/ttySomething?06:09
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cfraz89hu06:09
cfraz89*hi06:09
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cfraz89has anyone here used synce ?06:09
cfraz89i am trying to get an ipaq to work on my kubuntu comp06:09
CaminomasterCaN SoMeoNe HeLP Me WiTH a MiDi PRoBLeM?06:09
polpak!caps06:09
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ubotuFYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.06:09
cfraz89*hi06:10
cfraz89has anyone here used synce ?06:10
harisundAny chess players here? I want to know how to tell gnu-chess that I have installed the opening book. It doesn't seem to know :(06:10
OrTigaScycom i didn't see yet06:10
cfraz89i am trying to get an ipaq to work on my kubuntu comp06:10
patrick24601that was worse than all caps06:10
polpakcfraz89, nope, what's it for?06:10
patrick24601it was camel(toe) case!06:10
c150hey now, that wasn't all in caps06:10
cycomCaminomaster: not if you use annoying text.06:10
OrTigaSCiderJack why you pinging me?06:10
cfraz89its for connecting a windows pocket pc to a linux computer06:10
tritium_CiderJack: what was that for?06:10
polpakharisund, sorry.. I just play go06:10
cycomOrTigaS: he pinged the channel.06:10
harisundpolpak: lol that's fine.06:10
cfraz89it keeps bumming out when pppd tries to connect06:10
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OrTigaSokay06:10
intelikeymy my,   learn something new every day.    i had no idea there were so many ways to exit less .......     q or Q or :q or :Q or ZZ06:11
intelikey              Exits less.06:11
cycomOrTigaS: but back to the serial port: try typing dmesg and looking for a new tty at the very end.06:11
polpakintelikey, odd, those are the same ways you exit vi ;p06:11
CiderJackSorry, I pinged the whole channel :P just checking06:11
OrTigaScycom ok gonna try that06:12
intelikeypolpak some of them.  not all.06:12
harisundCiderJack how do you ping a channel?06:12
polpakintelikey, except ZZ will also save the file06:12
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CiderJackharisund: /ping #ubuntu06:12
intelikeypolpak but  q or Q  will probably just type  and not exit....06:12
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harisundOh ok . (not that I am going to try it .. but just wanted to know ..)06:12
Caminomastercycom, my txt is not annoying06:12
polpakintelikey, ah, true enough06:12
c150what's wrong without ubuntu? you would think it could function without being connected to the internet...06:13
polpakc150, it does....06:13
alexk_TEH INTRANET IS MAD IMPORTANT06:13
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jmoncayotritium, hey can i use the iostream.h??06:13
jadaz87!caps06:13
intelikeyall i had ever used was  q  to exit less....06:13
ubotuFYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.06:13
cycomCaminomaster: the random text caps is annoying.  I think pretty much everyone here would agree on that.06:13
c150no doubt, that's why I'm trying to fit it06:13
tritium_thanks for that enlightenment, alexk_06:13
c150but everytime I try to sudo, it has to look up its own hostname06:13
c150which takes a few minutes to fail06:13
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alexk_NE TYME06:13
tritium_jmoncayo: of course06:13
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OrTigaScycom i saw a usb-serial06:13
c150and if I reboot it tries to do all kinds of things with the network, freezing the boot process06:14
nickrudc150, you have a problem06:14
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cycomOrTigaS: was there anything about a /dev/tty ?06:14
c150yes, it's called linux06:14
newbuntiepolpak: i restarted it but still don't see anything on my desktop06:14
nickrudc150, no, it's called /etc/hosts06:14
OrTigaSttyusb006:14
c150yeah, I put the hostname in there now06:14
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nickrudc150, gethostbyname() or such?06:14
jmoncayotritium, do i need to install it or comes with the sudo apt-get install build-essential06:14
cycomOrTigaS: I think that's it. That would be your serial port, unless I'm sadly mistaken.06:14
c150I don't know which IP it wants to get, but it isn't as bad now06:14
polpaknickrud, well his complaint about the startup is valid. Except he could just disable the services that need network access06:14
cycomOrTigaS: I'm not too familiar with minicom.  Let me see what I can dig up real quick06:15
c150the point of the computer is services that need network access06:15
Caminomastercycom, all right. Did U know how 2 config MIDI?06:15
c150but in any case I would expect that I could use NTP and file shares and still be able to boot without a network06:15
cycomCaminomaster: not off the top of my head, no.06:15
OrTigaScycom thanks! i'm gonna try then if theres a prob a gonna ask again! Thank You Very Much!06:15
nickrudpolpak, that's a point. Now that I think on it, I've never booted without a net access under ubuntu.06:15
cycomOrTigaS: no problem m8! good luck!06:15
c150back when I used NFS it could take 10 minutes to boot if there was a problem06:16
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harisundnickrud, I agree with you on that. Somehow I get an empty feeling if I boot without internet :D06:16
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polpaknickrud, yeah, you have to wait for the ntp sync to fail, and possibly the dhcp resolution, etc06:16
nickrudshades of the 80's06:16
tritium_jmoncayo: it comes with06:16
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brandon_can anyone help me setup Ubuntu Center?06:16
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jmoncayotritium, oki thanks a lot06:16
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polpakjmoncayo, I think it's just iosteam now06:16
tritium_right ^06:16
jmoncayodoes somebody know any program for linux like macromedia dreamweaver?06:16
polpakiostream rather06:16
Madpilotjmoncayo, Nvu, if you really need a WYSIWYG editor06:17
polpakjmoncayo, ^^ what he said06:17
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intelikeyhehhe  i have   /etc/hosts /etc/hosts.deny /etc/hosts.allow    all of which are blank    but i doubt that that is normal.06:17
polpakjmoncayo, course really a text editor works pretty well06:17
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zFHi06:17
zFI have a question06:17
kwtm1jmoncayo: Would Quanta+ do?06:17
jadaz87!espresso06:17
ubotujadaz87: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:17
nickrudzF, ask away06:17
MadpilotzF, please just ask, don't ask to ask06:17
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jmoncayopolpak, i know but just wondering, and what is WYSIWYG06:18
Dr_Willisintelikey,  i was thinking those 2 files are normally used by the inetd/xinetd deamons06:18
newbuntiepolpak: there is stuff that runs when I plug the memory in, like hald-addon-storage and [usb-storage]  and [scsi_eh_5]  some of those processes belong to user hal06:18
c150kwtm1: i've never seen it do anything06:18
Bman|has anyone here setup Ubuntu Center? i need help please06:18
phrowzenjmoncayo, what you see is what you get06:18
zFIs it possible to raise the volume on Amarok or Ubuntu? My laptop internal volume is maxed and my speakers are maxed but it's barely hearable06:18
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nickrud/etc/hosts shouldn't be empty06:18
MadpilotBman|, what is Ubuntu Centre?06:18
Bman|hang on ill link ya to screenshots06:18
Bman|https://ubuntucenter.bountysource.com/screenshots06:18
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kwtm1zF: does "alsamixer" let you adjust the volume?06:19
Dr_WilliszF,  install some of the other sound mixer apps. and twiddle with all the controlls :P06:19
Bman|im basically a noob with linux, ive used it before but im bad with installing06:19
polpaknewbuntie, can you pastebin the output of dmesg after you plug it in?06:19
zFkwtm1, what exactly do you mean?06:19
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nickrudis that proprietary?06:19
kwtm1c150: I'm still undecided whether you were joking or serious. :P06:19
Bman|so i need help from someone and the #ubuntucenter channel is empty06:19
MadpilotBman|, what does that actually do? It looks like a web app, or something?06:19
polpak!tell newbuntie about pastebin06:19
kwtm1zF: when you run the command "alsamixer" in a command window, does it give you a screen that lets you adjust volume using the up/down keys?06:19
c150I've tried to use it06:20
c150I know what the webpage says, but I don't know what it does06:20
zFkwtm1, right. I adjusted the headphone out and was able to raise the volume roughly 25%06:20
cycomBman|: I've never heard of ubuntu center. wassat?06:20
zFkwtm1, thanks, but Windows is still MUCH louder - any other tips?06:20
Dr_Willishttps://ubuntucenter.bountysource.com/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_Center06:20
aseidldoes the install boot screen have any kind of timeout to automatically start installation?06:20
cycomBman|: nevermind. saw the link06:20
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Bman|its like a web interface that allows you to remotely access files from your pc to upload/download and you can see satistics on your pc and watch the torrent downloads or https, also listen to music from your pc and pictures06:20
intelikeyDr_Willis yeah,  i'm  like completely network illiterate.   the only network i have is  dialup  internet.     i tried to put togather a  slip network  one time...  hehhe never got anywhere with it.06:20
zFkwtm1, nevermind, PCM was the missing ingredient. Thank you very much. That was perfect.06:20
Dr_WillisIts aparently in alpha testing.06:20
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Bman|yeah it is06:20
Bman|its pre-alpha06:21
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nickrudBman|, that belongs to tucows, not ubuntu06:21
Dr_Williswhich is even scariery06:21
Bman|tucows?06:21
kwtm1zF: Okay.  I figured it was a combination of controls that had reduced the volume.06:21
Dr_Willisthe install page seems very clear.06:21
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Bman|yeah and i followed it06:21
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Bman|i installed it06:21
CaminomasterWho can help me with MIDI?06:21
Bman|but i am having trouble configing it06:21
aseidlI'm trying to install on a comp that only has usb, no ps2 ports06:22
intelikeynickrud sayas  ?06:22
cycomBman|: whoa. That looks cool.06:22
aseidlbut my usb keyboard isn't recognized immediately06:22
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Dr_WillisBman|,  the lack of docs on that site is amazing. :P i would avoide that program untill it gets better documented then.06:22
nickrudintelikey, the more pissed I am at myself, the worse the spelling06:22
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Bman|someone else here should try to set it up maybe they can help me then06:22
aseidlso I can't hit enter to start installation06:22
Bman|yeah well i really want it06:22
cycomaseidl: that sounds like a bios thing.  I ran ubuntu install with a usb keyboard...06:22
Bman|so im going to try it no matter what06:22
Dr_Willis#ubuntucenter on irc.freenode.net06:22
intelikeynickrud i stand under you, about that one....06:23
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Bman|yeah im in the channel06:23
Bman|its empty06:23
MadpilotBman|, it's a remote web interface for your own PC?06:23
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kwtm1Caminomaster: I'm having trouble with MIDI myself...06:23
Dr_WillisBman|,  thats not a good sign either.06:23
Bman|look at the screenies06:23
Bman|its new dr_willis06:23
Bman|not very old06:23
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Bman|not to popular yet06:23
kwtm1Caminomaster: But I've decided that I'll only handle one thing at a time.  Otherwise I'll get overwhelmed by Linux.06:23
FlannelKingnot too secure either, eh?06:23
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MadpilotBman|, given that there's no "This is what this app does" info easily available on their website, I'm not surprised it's not too well known...06:24
Caminomasterkwtm1, What have used? Timidity?06:24
Dr_WillisLooks a lot like a webmin setup. :P06:24
Bman|umm idk what webmin is06:24
Dr_WillisMadpilot,  :P looks like the kind of thing that could vanish over night.06:24
MadpilotFlannelKing, at least it seems to use PHP5 instead of PHP4, for what that's worth WRT security...06:24
cycomBman|: it looks pretty hot so far.  I may have to try that.06:24
Bman|hang on let me get there main site06:24
damian_Ubuntu 5.10 'server' installation doesn't install any compilers? :/06:24
kwtm1Caminomaster: I tried running KMidi, which I consider a basic app.  It said: "I can't get to /dev/sequencer!  Some other program must be using it!"06:24
Bman|yeah cycom06:24
Bman|cyco*06:24
FlannelKingMadpilot: heh, give me ssh and icecast server anyday ;)06:24
damian_i've apt-get'd gcc, yet i still can't compile anything, any ideas?06:25
Madpilotdamian_, 'sudo apt-get install build-essential06:25
cycomdamian_: barebones, I suppose.  just build-dep something.06:25
damian_ahh, lets try that!06:25
Caminomasterkwtm1, with alsa?06:25
intelikeydamian_ b-e06:25
damian_ta06:25
kwtm1Caminomaster: In fact, when I checked, there *was* no /dev/sequencer.  I figure it just wasn't installed yet.  But I'm going to leave it until I figure out why (k)Ubuntu suddenly decided not to talk to my printer.06:25
damian_ugh, 60mb. lol06:25
Bman|cycom try to install it i wanna see if you can do it easy06:25
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Bman|the install is a breezy but i cant config it right06:25
carbocan gedit handle files via ftp? like edit directly a file on another server06:26
damian_i can't get apt-get to install from the cd for some reason, could it just be because of later versions online?06:26
Bman|i just installed ubuntu brezzy bager a few hours ago06:26
kwtm1Caminomaster: I believe I have alsa installed, if that's what you're asking.  I used AlsaMixer with success.  However, whether it's ALSA or OSS I'm not sure.06:26
Caminomasterkwtm1, Are you new in Ubuntu?06:26
MadpilotBman|, you might want to play with Ubuntu for a few days before you start installing pre-alpha server stuff...06:26
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Bman|well this isnt my first time using ubuntu06:26
polpakcarbo, if you connect with the places->connect to server you should be able to click->open a file w/ gedit06:26
Bman|its just i havent used it in like 3 months06:26
kwtm1Caminomaster: I installed 5.10 soon after it came out, but I mainly want to use the computer, and not to tinker.  I've used Linux (mainly Mandrake) since 2002 or so.06:26
cycomBman|: did you build from source or use the binary?06:26
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Bman|i followed the instructions on there site06:27
Bman|i dont remember what it had me do06:27
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Jahootyanyone know what this means:  Reason: 500 OOPS: vsftpd: cannot locate user specified in 'ftp_username':ftp.06:27
Jahootynm06:27
Bman|heres there site http://ubuntucenter.ttt-server.be/06:27
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kwtm1Caminomaster: I find that the list of little things to fix in any Linux distro is endless, and if I wait till I fix every single last thing, I'll never get anything done.06:27
chris__how do i uncompress .rpm?06:27
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carbopolpak: yeah but its read only and the file properties in nautilus tells me the permissions couldn't be read06:28
Dr_Willischris__,  i often use 'mc' to view their contents and copy things out06:28
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andre_hello06:28
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wheelchris google alien06:28
cycomBman|: WHOA. Whatever it is, I just download the source at over a meg a second.  I like their site. :)06:28
newbuntiepolpak ok posted06:28
Bman|lol06:29
Caminomasterkwtm1, I'm new in this... near 1 moth ago I shooted & kicked Wn6w$06:29
intelikeychris__  normally you don't want to use an .rpm on a debian based system.     isn't there something in the repos that will work for you ?06:29
polpakcarbo, if you right-click you should be able to set the permissions06:29
polpaknewbuntie, what's the url for your post?06:29
chris__well im tryin to install limewire06:29
kwtm1Caminomaster: Okay.  Well, best of luck.  I'm going to make dinner.  Have fun!06:29
chris__and its the only file system they have for linux06:29
Caminomasterkwtm1, Sometimes I pay the price... but I'm free06:29
carbopolpak: when i right-click and check the properties it says something like File permissions could not be determined06:29
polpak!tell chris__ about limewire06:30
Madpilot!limewire06:30
intelikeyDr_Willis yeah i like to install .debs via mc also.06:30
ubotufirst you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.06:30
polpak!tell chris__ about frostwire06:30
Bman|cycom, let me know when you have installed it06:30
carbopolpak: for just about all the files on my ftp06:30
newbuntiehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12536 it's under my name06:30
polpakcarbo, how strange06:30
CaminomasterMidi problem (buh!)06:30
andre_hello gents06:30
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polpaknewbuntie, hrm well it's clearly seeing the drive.. ls -al /media pls06:31
Dr_Willisintelikey,  i never install them that way. :P I just use mc to see whats In the rpms..06:31
wheelubotu: how many newbies are going to run an sh file?06:31
ubotuwheel: what are you talking about?06:31
Madpilotwheel, ubotu is a bot :P06:31
chris__k im gonna try and get frostwire06:31
Madpilotubotu, tell wheel about yourself06:31
chris__thx all06:31
chris__bye06:31
wheelMad: thanks!!! :)06:32
andre_does anybody know how to get libdvdcss to play encrypted dvd's06:32
newbuntielrwxrwxrwx   1 root root    6 2006-02-04 20:54 cdrom -> cdrom006:32
newbuntiedrwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4096 2006-02-04 20:54 cdrom006:32
wheelMadpilot: :)06:32
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andre_libdvd06:33
newbuntiepolpak: that's all, nothing else06:33
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Jahootyok, anyone know what this means:   Message sent:06:33
JahootyLogin using username=ftp and password=[hidden] 06:33
JahootyServer replied:06:33
Jahooty500 OOPS: child died06:33
JahootyDo you want to retry?06:33
_milohello, i just installed kubuntu 5.10 and noticed mplayer is not installed or available through apt?06:34
intelikeyDr_Willis on mdk systems i learned to install .rpms via mc  to get urpmi installed on a minimal system.   so it was a natural thing to use it on debs also.06:34
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newbuntiewhat does this mean in the output dmesg? /dev/scsi/host6/bus0/target0/lun0: p106:34
Madpilot_milo, it's in Multiverse - and none of the packages are just called "mplayer", just to confuse people :P06:35
_miloMadpilot: dang, i also searched "video" ...06:35
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Bman|Warning: main() [function.include] : Failed opening '/home/brandon/.mozilla/firefox/czczeiw8.default/bookmarks.html' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /var/www/center/bookmarks/index.php on line 1506:35
Bman|anyone know why i would get that?06:36
intelikeynewbuntie that says partition one on the scsi disk  /dev/sdf106:36
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newbuntiepolpak I'm asking because I don't have a scsi directory under /dev06:36
Madpilot_milo, you need to enable Multiverse, I'm guessing06:36
Madpilot!tell _milo about multiverse06:36
chris__how do u uncompress .deb files06:36
_milowth06:36
chris__lol06:36
_miloyour kidding me06:36
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Dr_Willischris__,  why would you want to? -- How about Installing them? :P06:36
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chris__how do i install them :P06:37
Dr_Willis!apt-get06:37
ubotusomebody said apt-get was http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.txt (in depth) and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto06:37
Madpilot!info mplayer-58606:37
ubotumplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB06:37
Dr_Willistime to learn some apt-get skills :P and dpkg kung-fu!06:37
brandon__i've got alsaplayer set up to play system sounds instead of arts. is there a way i can stop alsaplayer from showing up every time the system plays a sound?06:37
Madpilot_milo, nope - see ubotu's info post on mplayer-586 above...06:37
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intelikeyiirc  they are compressed with gzip  but  that's not important to your real question chris__   dpkg -i file.deb06:38
chris__will do06:38
intelikeyas root of course.06:38
newbuntiepolpak: and I don't have /dev/sdf1 either, just sda and sda106:38
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intelikeythere is also an extract=templates switch for dpkg iirc06:39
Madpilotnewbuntie, you'd only have "sdf" if you had lots of SATA/SCSI drives installed06:39
intelikeyMadpilot scsi can be set to what ever address you like with jumppers  me thinks06:40
chris__grrrr06:40
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chris__btw im using ppc architecture not i38606:40
Madpilotintelikey, I'll take your word for it - I've never used SCSI, just thought it was lumped in with sdx06:40
chris__:'(06:40
Madpilotchris__, for Java you're SOL, then06:40
chris__dammit06:41
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Madpilotblame Sun06:41
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invader_zimmorning all06:41
damian_know off hand how i can install the libtcl.so (for eggdrop and what-not)? .. what package it comes with06:41
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newbuntiepolpak: ok, I got to go, thanks for the help, I'll try to figure it out later, thx again06:42
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intelikeyMadpilot i haven't actually moved the jumper on my cheeta but i think it will jumper to sd[a-h]   0-7 bus id's06:42
damian_or maybe i just need to symlink the /usr/lib/libtcl8.4.so.0 ?06:42
invader_zimI would like to install courier-authlib for courier imap anyone know how is that possible?06:42
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invader_zimwasnt really designed for Debian base ox06:43
invader_zimos*06:43
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jessidsome of you can recommend some light graphic manager for ubuntu? I want to run some applications faster...06:46
crimsun"graphic manager?"06:46
hyphenatedwindow manager06:46
intelikeyicewm06:47
crimsunopenbox? fluxbox? pekwm? ion?06:47
intelikeyxfce06:47
OrTigaShi i'm back!06:47
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intelikeytwm   <--- super light.06:47
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jessidhyphenated oh yes! sorry for my english jejeje06:48
OrTigaSi have still problem using the minicom. it wont connect to the machine that i'm trying to communicate06:48
jessidintelikey ok!06:48
jessidtwm then???06:48
intelikeytmw is about as light as they get.06:48
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intelikeyerr twm06:48
intelikeyit comes with xorg as part of xorg06:48
hyphenatedjessid: you probably want one slightly more advanced than twm :-)06:49
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OrTigaSis anyone uses hyperterminal or pcplus in windows and switch to linux06:49
jessidhyphenated talk to me...06:49
OrTigaSi tried the minicom but still didn't work06:49
hyphenatedjessid: the other guys have suggested a few. you're welcome to try some/all of them and pick your own favourite06:49
hyphenatedOrTigaS: to do what?06:49
jessidhyphenated ok, ok!06:50
_miloif i have an athlon should i use 586 or 686?06:50
Healotk706:50
Healotlinux-image-*k706:50
OrTigaShyphenated to connect to a communication machine directly thru USB-to-Serial cable06:50
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hyphenatedOrTigaS: well, there's a few things to configure06:50
_miloHealot: i was thinking mplayer ;) .. but same effect06:51
OrTigaShyphenated it been detected already06:51
OrTigaScycom help me earlier06:51
_miloHealot: strangely enough mplayer-k7 is a dummy package ... hrm06:51
intelikeyde-hyphenated coffee  ?06:51
hyphenatedOrTigaS: so you've configured the device, baud rate and parity?06:51
OrTigaShyphenated yes06:51
_miloHealot: installing nonetheless06:52
hyphenatedintelikey: I wouldn't recommend it. it's pretty weak and bitter ;-)06:52
hyphenatedOrTigaS: so what problem are you having now? :-)06:52
intelikeylol06:52
OrTigaShyphenated it wont show it has to06:52
OrTigaSlike the pcplus does06:52
hyphenatedOrTigaS: uh.. show what has to what?06:52
OrTigaSi'm new to linux06:52
blindxhahaha nice. Photoshop 7 CAN be installed using wine.06:53
OrTigaShyphenated pcplus is the one we use to communicate to our machine which is thru serial cable06:53
blindx(and run.)06:53
OrTigaSso i try the minicom and now it didn't show anything06:53
polpakblindx, meh.. I prefer the gimp06:53
blindxpolpak: I just can't get used to it.06:53
blindxIt doesn't do what I want it to.06:53
polpakblindx, there's also supposed to be "gimpshop" which makes all the shortcuts photoshop like06:54
blindxplus, all the hotkey buttons are completely different06:54
blindxoh really? :P06:54
polpakblindx, yeah, but it's not in apt yet =(06:54
OrTigaSif i use wine and install hyperterminal its gonna work??06:54
blindxI'm not sure what hyperterminal is.06:54
hyphenatedOrTigaS: probably not :-)06:54
hyphenatedblindx: it's a tool for talking to COM ports06:55
polpakblindx, he's talking about something else06:55
OrTigaSor the window base pcplus06:55
NytWolfHardware/network question: Note, I'm using only a command line... Is there anything special I should know when trying to run two ethernet cards in the same Ubuntu server? eth0 and eth1 seem to be conflicting somehow or another (and not on a hardware addressing level)06:55
MadpilotOrTigaS, isn't hyperterminal a modem program?06:55
whyameye_OrTigaS: I'm tuning in late. You want something hyperterminal like in ubuntu? Try cutecom.06:55
intelikey_milo dummy package ?    meta package you mean ?     meta packages are full of dependancies  they depend on other packages,  it's kinda a way to install a list that installs what you really want.06:55
FalstiusOrTigaS: there are linux alternatives for hyperterminal.06:55
OrTigaSwhat else?06:55
OrTigaSuucp?06:55
whyameye_OrTigaS: cutecom.06:55
OrTigaSokay lemme try that06:55
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Falstiuswell, you could just run a ttyso on your serial port.06:55
Falstiuser ttys06:55
polpakOrTigaS, you've tried kermit or minicom?06:56
OrTigaSFalstius i try to change to ttyusb006:56
OrTigaSminicom polpak06:56
intelikeyttyS0 = com 106:56
pax"hyperthrmia can also be addressed with linux!" he says06:56
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Falstiusintelikey: yeah, sorry for the imprecision.06:57
OrTigaSwhen i typer dmesg i saw this ttyusb0 so i configure the minicom port to ttyusb006:57
polpakOrTigaS, and what's the trouble w/ minicom?06:57
OrTigaSpolpak it wont show anything that it should be06:57
B_166-ER-Xok, i will put my question in very simple terms:  i cannot burn to dvd's.  (buyed another one, tried , and f***ed 13 dvd's. searched for help..)   still, nothing (but i can burn CD-r with another burner whitout problem)06:57
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whyameye_OrTigaS: do you mean /dev/ttyUSB0?06:58
OrTigaSwhyameye_ yes06:58
intelikeyFalstius np.  only mentioned it because there is device nodes  ttys*06:58
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blindxB_166-ER-X, what program are you using?06:58
B_166-ER-Xtried with k3b, gnome-baker, and nautilus06:58
blindxheh06:58
HealotB_166-ER-X: before you f*** someone else, please tell us exactly, what program did you use, the error message if available?06:58
OrTigaSis anything i should do in minicom to work as like pcplus06:59
B_166-ER-XHealot, i'm trying to make it work since like 15:00 pm, and its 00:59 am here ..so there are a lot of error messages piled up. but i can sumarize :06:59
OrTigaSand if a installed the cutecom theres no conflict with the minicom?07:00
whyameye_OrTigaS: I can't think of why there would be. But cutecom might not be in synaptic...07:00
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B_166-ER-Xi tried mostly with k3b, (it was working before, than someday it make thiserror, so i thought it was de drive, so i buyed a new one today) still... it was saying there was a 'joliet extensions chars problem... because or '' and '' chars in song and files titales07:01
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OrTigaSso i'm gonna apt-get07:01
B_166-ER-Xthen i tried to 'force input chars' with k3b.. worked....well, it burn, but i cannot read the dvd afterward07:01
B_166-ER-Xi see the files, but cannot acess them07:02
whyameye_OrTigaS: unfortunately cutecom is not in the repos. I compiled from source. It's an easy build if you have built stuff before...07:02
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B_166-ER-Xi also activated the DMA, didnt change anything07:02
B_166-ER-Xi'm OUT of ideas.07:02
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B_166-ER-Xthe most common error was , Possibly creating an invalid Joliet extension. Aborting.07:03
intelikeymay be a stuppid idea.   but maybe rename the files, removing the ' or " chars in them.07:03
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OrTigaSwhyameye_ i'm newbie so i cant do that yet07:03
B_166-ER-Xi tried, but its not that...i burned for a year these files...it always worked.07:03
B_166-ER-Xand lots of the files are on a read only drive :|07:04
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HealotB_166-ER-X, i think it's the track setting... tried UDF instead of ISO or Joliet07:04
melarenHow do you go about pinpointing the cause of a lock-up?07:04
B_166-ER-Xand, even after removing bad chars...still wouldnt read the dvd07:04
whyameye_OrTigaS: I'm a bit green or I'd know how to make a .deb of my install of cutecom. anybody out there known how to do this? I remember something about fakeroot...07:04
HealotUDF is more proper for DVD content07:04
B_166-ER-Xhow or where, do i change this07:04
poningrujust go iso07:04
hyphenatedwhyameye_: did you download a source package?07:05
poningruB_166-ER-X: what are you trying to do?07:05
whyameye_hyphenated: yes07:05
mikeo1anyone know whats up with my gnome?07:05
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damian_how can i get tcl.h / libtcl.so installed? :/07:05
Healot"dh_make" on the top source directory07:05
mikeo1anytime i select gnome session, it says loading session and freezes07:05
mikeo1never loads it07:05
mikeo1startkde works fine tho07:05
tomyhi all07:05
Jahootyi can't get vsftpd to work property, does anyone know what i might be doing wrong?07:05
Healoti think dh_make is avail on the the debhelper-related packages, not sure07:05
polpakJahooty, depends on what error you're getting07:06
B_166-ER-XHealot,  where in k3b i change to UDF ???07:06
Bman|whats the permissions to delete something?07:06
Bman|like chmod what?07:06
hyphenatedB_166-ER-X: in the 'burn' dialog after you've set all the files up07:06
whyameye_B_166-ER-X: are you running Breezy?07:06
polpakBman|, you need write access to the directory in order to delete07:06
B_166-ER-Xbreezy alright07:06
Bman|how do i get it?07:06
Jahootythis one right now:  Message sent:07:07
JahootyLogin using username=anonymous and password=[hidden] 07:07
JahootyServer replied:07:07
Jahooty500 OOPS: child died07:07
JahootyDo you want to retry?07:07
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polpakJahooty, use pastebin pls07:07
Healotpackage "dh-make07:07
Healot"07:07
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intelikeymikeo1 delete all your .gnome*   and try again.... note that will remove customizations   if that is unacptable,  don do it.07:07
polpakBman|, do you own the directory?07:07
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Bman|uhh its on my pc07:07
B_166-ER-XHealot,  i see the burn dialog, but i dont see this anywhere, hmm07:07
mikeo1it works in failsafe07:07
Bman|idk how to own a dir07:07
mikeo1where are the .gnome files?07:07
polpakBman|, ls -ld /path/to/directory07:07
B_166-ER-Xah 'Generate UDF structures'07:07
tomyhi Iam new in umbuntu...07:08
Jahootyhttp://pastebin.com/66863507:08
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B_166-ER-XHealot,  do i uncheck rock ridge and jolit ?07:08
Bman|i need to delete /var/www/center/photos07:08
intelikeymikeo1 ~/.gnome07:08
Bman|it wont let me07:08
carbohow do i mount something and make it belong to my user and not root?07:08
intelikeymikeo1 rm -fr ~/.gnome*07:08
Bman|-rwxr-xr-x07:08
polpakJahooty, also pastebin your vsftpd config file07:08
Bman|thats what it shows07:08
HealotB_166-ER-X, btw i don't use gui tool like gnomebaker/k3b, cdrecord is preferable to me07:08
polpakBman|, whos the user and group?07:08
mikeo1no such files07:08
HealotB_166-ER-X: you need both for long filenames...07:08
B_166-ER-Xok, ..07:08
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Bman|-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root , that?07:09
blindxanyone think PS:CS2 will install on ubuntu? :x07:09
tomycan you telme what is the pararel statement for 'smit' or 'smitty' in ubuntu?07:09
polpakBman|, yes. what is the directory?07:09
_morphiusHow might one list all loaded modules and/or find out what modules are loaded at boot?07:09
Bman|this /var/www/center/photos07:09
Healot"lsmod", _morphius07:09
bimberi_morphius: lsmod (to list loaded modules)07:09
Jahootypolpak, http://pastebin.com/668637   i redid it from scratch going over the manpage on the web.  but i was getting the same errors before07:10
B_166-ER-XHealot,  your pretty sure that was my problem ? cause i dont feel like scrapping a 14th Dvd tonight on another useless test :|07:10
polpakBman|, chown username:username /var/www/center/photos07:10
_morphiushmm. Can't be that. That's way too easy and makes too much sense. *kicks self for being an idiot*07:10
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HealotB_166-ER-X: I suggest you try to use Windows CD-burner first, or lookup at FAQ/wiki on burning DVD07:10
B_166-ER-Xwindows ??07:11
Healotwell, it works well :)07:11
intelikeyB_166-ER-X for crying out loud    learn to use  dummy write.   so it tests without making frisbies07:11
B_166-ER-Xand i dont need a Faq. it worked here for a year, jsut stopped last week07:11
Healotok... nvm then07:11
B_166-ER-Xalso, this is a ubuntu only pc ;)07:12
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HealotB_166-ER-X, what did you do last week?07:12
intelikeywell there's your problem07:12
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Healotif it worked before...07:12
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B_166-ER-Xi didnt do nothing special i can remember before it stopped working07:13
ltR20anyone here? How do i update firefox07:13
ltR20or can i download firefox from offical site and put it in /opt/07:13
Healotyes07:13
intelikeyltR20 there is a wiki on that.07:13
ltR20any guides07:13
Healot!ff1.507:14
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion07:14
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OrTigaSis anyone used uucp as like pcplus or hyperterminal?07:15
Healoti only use minicom for modems...07:15
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highvoltage!ops07:17
Bman|how do i delete a folder in terminal?07:17
crimsunoh god, not this crap again.07:17
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martyndauh.... nice07:18
Bman|how do i delete a folder in terminal?07:18
lilogetting them07:18
Madpilothighvoltage, once on the !ops is usually enough07:18
crimsunthanks, lilo.07:18
Frogzoothx Madpilot07:18
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Madpilotthanks lilo07:18
hyphenatedBman|: if it's empty already, use rmdir foldername07:18
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highvoltageMadpilot: thanks, ubotu kindly told me off-channel07:18
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FrogzooMadpilot: it's possible I missed one of the !ops scrolling by - sorry about that07:18
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DBOthey are STILL spamming?... uhg...07:19
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Jahootyso does anyone else know why vsfptd isn't working?07:19
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martyndaBman|: rm -r folder07:19
MadpilotFrogzoo, with that sort of flood, that's understandable07:19
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martyndaor rmdir if it's empty07:19
intelikeyi found it humorous, that both mozilla  and  the security updated mozilla for hoary have the same bug in the post-inst/rm scripts   that trys to dubble lock dpkg and thus error out as partially installed.  can't finish installing them can't remove them.07:19
Bman|ok thanks07:20
intelikeyit's times like that, that make me wonder if i should have took up hacking....   if i had of,  i think i could have stopped that guy by now...07:21
intelikeyMadpilot and Frogzoo i only saw the last !ops  call.....   have no idea how many there were.07:23
johanbrMadpilot: Does freenode not use a proxy blacklist?07:23
intelikeyjohanbr freenode supports tor...07:24
Madpilotintelikey, neither do I - was afk, got back and that flood had already run off the top of my screen - I only keep the last 300 lines07:24
intelikeyhehhe that was full in like 2.2 seconds07:24
Madpilotsomething like that... bleh07:25
intelikeyhow did that all hit at once?   it looked like a server join.07:26
nalioth_zZzintelikey: botnet07:26
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intelikeythen in essence it was the same as a server joining07:26
johanbrintelikey: Oh, so those were all tor nodes? Shows what tor is good for, I guess. Not to mention that I'd have a hard time imagining that tor would be consistent with those cable providers' AUPs,07:27
nalioth_zZzjohanbr: they were not07:27
nalioth_zZzthis is all just zombie windows boxes in action07:27
MadpilotThree cheers for Microsoft! ;)07:27
ajmitchyay07:27
intelikeyjohanbr i didn't say they were tor nodes.  i said freenode supports tor     that was in asnwer to your question about black listing proxies   you can't very well do both.07:28
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nalioth_zZzajmitch: probably gonna keep it +R until seveas wakes up07:29
johanbrintelikey: Okay. Still, if the freenode operators for some reason are so enamoured of tor, they could combine a proxy blacklist with a tor whitelist.07:29
martyndawhy not use bots that autoboot flooders?07:29
johanbrTo me, an open proxy is an open proxy.07:29
ajmitchnalioth_zZz: I think I'll stay in this channel for a couple of hours at least :)07:30
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intelikeymartynda yeah but the names were not consistant with a flood.   so that would have trubble working also.07:31
Kamping_Kaiserhobbsee will probaly be onl later, she has ops here doesnt she?07:31
ajmitchKamping_Kaiser: yes, and so do I07:31
MadpilotKamping_Kaiser, yes - I'll be here for another couple of hours too, FWIW07:31
martyndaah, well, just a suggestion from a noob :)07:31
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Kamping_Kaiserajmitch, yeh. i'm asuming you sleep some time. or are you aways awake fomr some reason07:32
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Kamping_Kaiser:)07:32
Kamping_Kaiserintelikey, but you can ban anyone/thing repeating the same thing a lot07:32
Kamping_Kaiserlol. which could be a problem in a help channel ;)07:32
johanbrI remember seeing something on the ubuntu wiki about moving the irc channels off freenode. Did anything ever come of that?07:32
spikebyay geek girls07:32
intelikeymartynda did you notice that the names were never repeting.07:32
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ajmitchspikeb: calm down..07:32
martyndayeah, i did, but don't you ban based on the host?07:33
Kamping_Kaiserjohanbr, move off freenode?07:33
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sagarphow can i have it so when i boot, the linux penguin shows at the top? what is that called07:33
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cawnsso i just installed default ubuntu and it boots to the gui, what can i edit so i just boot to a console login prompt?07:33
Kamping_Kaiserhi daniel07:33
johanbrKamping_Kaiser: Yep. Something about (some of) the ubuntu devs being unhappy with freenode's policies.07:33
Kamping_Kaisercawns, you can change a runlevel to not start gdm and set that as your default07:34
Kamping_Kaisersagarp, how commited tothe idea are you? :)07:34
cawnsKamping_Kaiser, gdm is responsible for starting all the gui stuff?07:34
Kamping_Kaiseryeh. afaik07:34
Kamping_Kaiserim fairly sure it starts x, si suppose it is07:34
sagarpKamping_Kaiser: er, fairly committed...is it a lot of tedious work?07:35
intelikeycawns yes.   sudo rm -i /etc/rc2.d/*gdm*07:35
cawnsand how do i do this, find the gdm symlink in an etc/rcx.d folder?07:35
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Kamping_Kaisercawns, run 'sudo update-rc.d gdm remove' iirc07:35
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johanbrsagarp: That logo is not in the standard ubuntu kernels, so you'd have to compile your own. Or you could possibly modify a usplash theme to display the logo.07:35
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intelikeycawns runlevel 2 is the default in ubuntu  fyi07:36
Kamping_Kaisersagarp, afaik you have to recompile initramfs. i cant help you with that07:36
sagarpjohanbr, ooh...so it's not a simple matter of uh, enabling framebuffer or whatever?07:36
Kamping_Kaisernope07:36
sagarp=(07:36
johanbrsagarp: Afraid not. From the ubuntu kernel config: # CONFIG_LOGO is not set07:37
lgcHedgeMage: Hi again!07:37
sagarpaw sux07:37
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Kamping_Kaiserwhats +R mean?07:38
intelikeylilo says set to +R  but ub was  +R pre-deluvian    no ?07:38
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cawnsubuntuguide.org also says i can install proftpd by doing sudo apt-get install proftpd but it cant find the package wherever it goes out to look for it07:38
intelikeyKamping_Kaiser must be registered to speak07:39
hondjecawns: do you have universe in your repositories? if not, add it :)07:39
Kamping_Kaiserthanks intelikey07:39
intelikeycawns repos07:39
Kamping_Kaisercawns, take a gun, and put a bullet in yoru ubuntuguide link07:39
intelikey!repos07:39
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource07:39
intelikeycawns do that ^07:39
cawnsthx :)07:40
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matth-wHello... Was wondering about maybe someone helping me getting flash with firefox working?07:41
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intelikeythat must be for someone else.... i don't like ff and don't do flash....   and i'm out of here.07:42
cawnsheh wow ubuntu really makes things easy07:42
lgc:-D HedgeMage, you there?07:43
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martyndacawns: since it seems like you're new, may I suggest running Automatix?07:45
martyndahttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13840507:45
FlannelKingno.....07:46
FlannelKing!automatix07:46
ubotuautomatix is, like, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.07:46
robinl1!automatix07:46
robinl1DON'T - RUN - AUTOMATIX07:46
lgc:-! Anyone here knowledgeable with problems with upgrades to Breezy? Mi %$&#"# keyboard doesn't work!07:46
martyndaok maybe people do like it too much :p07:46
FlannelKingwhy use auto... when easyubuntu does the same and is better?07:46
robinl1martynda: For your information: it messes up your installation.07:46
blindxwhat IS automatix?07:46
robinl1martynda: I used automatix, and i had to reinstall ubuntu thanks to that devil spawn07:47
martyndai havent used it personally, just read about it and people getting good results with it07:47
Madpilotmartynda, this channel has seen too many "So I ran Automatix, and now <something> doesn't work...HELP!" posts....07:47
martyndabut i guess different results here07:47
Frogzoo!tell matth-w about nonfree07:47
robinl1yes it SEEMS so07:47
FlannelKingblindx: it's a script that installs a bunch of stuff07:47
blindxahhh i see.07:47
robinl1it looks like it is07:47
robinl1but it isn't07:47
martyndasorry! don't kill me :p07:47
Frogzoomatth-w: install the non free flash plugin, see the pm ubotu sent you for details07:47
robinl1some things don't work anymore after you did that07:47
robinl1haha no prob :)07:47
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thoreauputic;)07:48
matth-wI never got a tell.07:48
matth-wAnd I already installed the nonfree flash07:48
martyndalol ps. im not a girl, just to make that clear, since that seems to me a common mistake based on my alias07:48
martyndathanks though07:48
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lgcPlease help with Breezy!!!!07:48
thoreauputicmartynda: it isn't OK to comfort guys?07:48
martyndaabsolutely!07:49
thoreauputic:)07:49
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Frogzoo!nonfree07:49
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Frogzoo07:49
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strayhikariHey quick question, if we have dapper 6.06 installed and do a apt-get upgrade07:49
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Frogzoo!tell matth-w about restricted07:50
strayhikariall the packages it lists, are they actually downgrades?07:50
Sp4rKyhi07:50
matth-wAlright, with that I already downloaded the w32 codex07:50
Frogzoomatth-w: so what's the problem?07:50
matth-wIt's not running any flash...07:50
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lgcIs anyone reading me? I do want to know since I've never used "Gaim" before. Please react...07:50
Myrttilgc: yes07:51
Frogzoomatth-w: in the ff location bar, enter 'about:plugins' - do you see the non free flash plugin?07:51
strayhikarilgc: yes07:51
Frogzoolgc: can't see a thing, sorry07:51
matth-wone second07:51
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matth-wI don't.07:52
Sp4rKyi'm trying to install swsusp2 with a 2.6.16.5 kernel on dapper07:52
Sp4rKybut when i try "sudo hibernate" , it doesn't work07:52
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lgcMyrtti, strayhikari, Frogzoo, thanks. Does any of you know how to cure a rebellious, non-working keyboard in Breezy? (I had to enter Windoze and download gaim just to ask...)07:52
Frogzoomatth-w: so read the pm from ubotu, and see where it mentions the non free flash plugin & install it07:53
lgcMyrtti, strayhikari, Frogzoo, thanks. Does any of you know how to cure a rebellious, non-working keyboard in Breezy? (I had to enter Windoze and download gaim just to ask...)07:54
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strayhikarisorry lgc, I'm pretty new to linux as well07:54
IceToxDoes anyone know if Gnome has something alike karamba for KDE?07:55
lgcstrayhikari: thanks anyway.07:55
ajmitchIceTox: try gDesklets07:55
spikebgdesklets perhaps?07:55
thoreauputic!gdesklets07:55
ubotu[gdesklets]  gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/07:55
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IceToxthanks07:55
Tomcat_strayhikari: Packages will *only* update, except if you advise apt to downgrade.07:55
ajmitchafternoon thoreauputic :)07:55
thoreauputicajmitch: hello :)07:55
matth-wNo new version is detected. ( = not installed)07:56
matth-wThat's what it gave me07:56
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Sp4rKyand when i start computer , i've a message like "incorrect value from resume2= , please set it before use suspend2" , whereas i've add "resume2=/dev/hdc10" on the menu.lst07:56
strayhikariTomcat_: I just wanted to be careful, since dapper is in the testing category was afraid apt-get woudl consider the latest stable version as an upgrade (had this problem in gentoo)07:56
Sp4rKyplease does anyone could help me07:56
lgcIf I was flaming I'm sure I'd get more attention...:-D07:58
matth-wyeah, being on fire is a sure way to get attention07:58
IceToxajmitch, do you happend to know where I can find theme files for this gDesklets?07:58
FlannelKingIceTox: inside of gDesklets theres a menu07:58
IceToxok FlannelKing.. I'll have a look at it :-)07:59
lgcmatth-w: Did I say "on flames"?07:59
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FrogzooSp4rKy: for dapper -> #ubuntu+107:59
matth-wNo, but I was trying to make a bad pun.07:59
Sp4rKyFrogzoo, thx07:59
matth-wJust give me a curtosy laugh?08:00
lgcmatth-w: you'd be better off helping me with my technical problem...08:00
matth-wTrue...08:00
matth-wSorry08:00
matth-wI know nothing about ubuntu so far... so I'm no help. Sorry about that.08:00
Tomcat_strayhikari: Versions in Debian and Ubuntu are strictly seperated, so no worries. :o08:01
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lgcmatth-w: :-D, there's your "curtosy" laugh...08:01
Tomcat_strayhikari: You would have to manually change all references from dapper to breezy, and even then apt would not automatically downgrade stuff, because the dapper packages are newer.08:01
matth-wHaha, thanks man08:01
lgcmatth-w: no prob.08:02
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strayhikariTomcat: Gotcha, thanks for the info!08:02
Frogzoomatth-w: so 'dpkg -l flashplayer-mozilla'  shows the pkg as installed?08:03
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matth-wNo packages found matching flashplayer-mozilla.08:03
matth-w:(08:03
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Frogzoomatth-w: this on breezy?08:04
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matth-whuh?08:04
Frogzoomatth-w: r u running ubuntu 5.10 = breezy badger08:05
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matth-wHeh... how do I see my version?08:05
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bimberi!version08:06
ubotuTo find out what ubuntu version you have type 'lsb_release -a' or 'cat /etc/issue' in a terminal.08:06
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matth-wYeah, it's 5.1008:06
carbohow can i improve playback of .wmv files? its very jerky in mplayer08:06
Frogzoomatth-w: so use synaptic or apt-get to install the pkg08:07
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Frogzoomatth-w: when you say you installed the flash player, I'm wondering what you actually installed?08:07
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matth-wWell I have it downloaded...08:07
Slackwisecarbo: Recompile mplayer with mmx/see/see2 instructions (/me ducks) :P08:07
matth-wOr at least I'm pretty sure I do08:07
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Frogzoomatth-w: ah, that's not the way ubuntu does it - ugprades are 99% of the time through aptitude, with synaptic or apt-get as a front end08:08
matth-wALright.08:08
carboSlackwise: ahhh... alright08:08
Slackwisecarbo: I was joking :P There's probably an easier way. :D08:09
Frogzoo!tell matth-w about docs08:09
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matth-wThanks08:09
Frogzooyw08:09
matth-wAlright, yeah I think I got it now...08:09
carboSlackwise: i thought so... i've heard about some fixes but i can't remember where... probably to do with the w32codecs or something08:10
strayhikariok this is really wierding me out, is dapper rootless?08:10
johanbrFrogzoo: This is probably nitpicking, but apt-get is not a frontend to aptitude and I don't think synaptic is either.08:10
matth-wYay it's working, right on, thanks so much man08:11
Madpilotjohanbr, synaptic is a front end to apt-get, AFAIK08:11
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anto9usstrayhikari, yes, use sudo, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo08:12
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johanbrMadpilot: Right, that's what I thought, that it used apt-get rather than aptitude. I have to say aptitude in itself is quite nice, though.08:12
johanbrstrayhikari: Right, by default dapper doesn't have a root account.08:12
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strayhikariok, cool was worried for a minute when it wouldn't let me su root08:13
IceToxhum.. have anyone here tried to install this XPde Environment to ubuntu before?08:13
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Killgorewhat was all that about08:13
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strayhikariAlso, does anyone know how to start network manager in 6.06?08:13
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Phlosten^strayhikari, maybe ask in #ubuntu+108:14
anto9usstrayhikari, join #ubuntu+108:14
johanbrstrayhikari: Typing "nm-applet &" in a terminal should get the applet running. There's this bug where it sometimes mysteriously disappears, though.08:14
strayhikariok, thanks for the help :)08:14
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CNAPwhat was all that about?08:14
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Frogzoojohanbr: semantics, there's aptitude the program, and aptitude, the pkg mgt system08:15
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stuzz78number of files in a folder?  can any help?08:15
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smb_anybody knows how to make ubuntu execute mp3's with xmms and not with totem08:15
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danMDYeah, I sorta have the same question actually. Is there any other media player I can use other than Totem?08:15
GTroyanyone have any preferences for xmms visualizations?08:15
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johanbrFrogzoo: To the best of my knowledge, the packaging system is not called aptitude. Not that it's important...08:16
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IceToxtotem seems to be f***ed up by standard :-)08:16
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danMDTotem doesn't seem to have the support for many of the filetypes I would like to use08:16
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IceToxbah.. lamers..08:16
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Frogzoo!ops08:16
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee08:16
FlannelKing+R time...08:16
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crimsunoh lilo...08:16
FlannelKingheh08:16
binarybeatshello08:16
Madpilotno sooner do we unset R, and they're back...08:16
robinl1...08:16
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Frogzooit's a conspiracy08:17
robinl1..08:17
robinl1check the topic there.. it says it's not them flooding all channels08:17
IceToxmaybe it's windows users? *grins*08:17
Frogzoorobinl1: you just got in then - major spam 1/2 hour ago08:17
robinl1this is not us who are flooding #gentoo and #perl and #rubyonrails and possibly some others, some loser(s) trying to give this channel a bad reputation | channel is +m until another op wakes up and takes control | sorry for the disruption...08:17
binarybeatsevery time I try to boot a ubuntu amd64 live cd, it goes to xdm and appears that the display has torn and locks up.08:17
robinl1that's the topic :p08:17
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FrogzooSeveas: while the room is locked, could we have a mesg for newbs that they need to register, pls?08:18
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MadpilotFrogzoo, it's in the /topic08:18
stjepanhow can I see what versions of checkinstall are available for apt-getting?08:18
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johanbrstjepan: apt-cache policy checkinstall08:18
bimberistjepan: apt-cache policy checkinstall08:18
kkathmanwhat was what all about?08:18
IceToxThis Desklets thingie was no fun! How come gnome can't make anything as easy as KDE? Is there any other alike software as karamba for gnome?08:19
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FrogzooMadpilot: cool, thx08:19
danMDHey can you guys see this message?08:19
FlannelKingnope08:19
MadpilotdAndy, yes08:19
bimberidanMD: no :)08:19
FrogzoodanMD: can't see nuttin08:19
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danMDlol good to know08:19
blindx"how do i make it so you can see what i say?"08:19
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blindxhahahaha08:19
danMDHey i'm completely new to ubuntu, I was wondering is there any media player out there that can play mp4?08:20
spikebdanMD, rhythmbox08:20
johanbrdanMD: Mplayer can. Probably xine, too.08:20
blindxI'm going to say this so everyone knows... don't run Photoshop 7 on ubuntu unless you frequently save your work and don't mind doing a cold reboot whenever you do something wrong.08:20
IceToxdanMD, you could download VLC Media Player at www.videolan.org08:20
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robinl1blindx: in wine, crossover, or native binary run? ^^08:20
danMDoo i was thinking of getting VLC, I didn't think they had a Ubuntu version though08:20
blindxwine08:20
robinl1k08:21
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robinl1yesh i know that08:21
spikebbah08:21
robinl1don't run mirc either08:21
robinl1try it :p08:21
danMDI know Ubuntu is built off of Debian but I wasn't exactly sure if that version would work08:21
spikebthe gimp can use PS plugins08:21
blindxthey sure do danMD, it's in the repositories08:21
spikebso use the gimp08:21
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IceToxdanMD, you should go for the regular tarball package then :-)08:21
blindxspikeb: i don't like the gimp08:21
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bimberi!info vlc08:21
robinl1i like it SO MUCH08:21
danMDlol, sounds good, thanks08:21
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB08:21
spikebyou don't have to :P08:21
blindx :P08:21
robinl1http://robinl1.deviantart.com08:21
IceToxAnytime danMD08:21
martyndadanMD: sudo apt-get install vlc08:21
robinl1check out my GIMP work xD08:21
bimberidanMD: vlc is in ubuntu's universe repository - you need to enable it ...08:21
blindxI just can't make it do what I want it to do.08:22
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bimberi!tell danMD about universe08:22
IceToxbimberi, VLC is on apt-get too?08:22
danMDooo i see, nice08:22
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danMDI'll try that thanks08:22
bimberiIceTox: yep08:22
IceToxdidn't know that bimberi :-)08:22
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bimberiIceTox: :)08:22
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IceToxbah.. lilo stop noticing me... :-P08:23
WarOfAttritionI'm having an issue with Gimp and a tablet. When I move the tablet cursor over the drawing area, the CPU goes to 100% and stuff gets laggy. Is there some special trick out there to avoid this?08:23
fyrestrtrWarOfAttrition: other than that, the tablet works? I am thinking you might not have it setup properly.08:23
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blindxrobinl1, there's a crossover PS7?08:24
WarOfAttritionfyrestrtr: yes other than that the tablet works, and other programs don't cause this08:24
blindxam i running it in wine like a jackass for no reason?08:24
stjepandoes anyone here (except me) get "segmentation fault" error when using checkinstall?08:24
WarOfAttritionhow should the tablet been setup? I've tried everything in the settings of gimp08:24
fyrestrtrblindx: you have something against gimp?08:24
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blindxI don't like it.08:24
Phlostenstjepan, if you are using the dapper one it is broken08:25
blindxCan't get used to it.08:25
fyrestrtrblindx: ah okay08:25
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IceToxDoesn't Gnome come with any other eyeCandy then this "gDesklets"? It's way harder to understand then KDE's karamba.. :/08:25
blindxI'm new to linux and all my previous graphicking has been done in photoshop. Things may not seem that different at the surface, but I can't get ANYTHING done in gimp.08:25
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stjepanPhlosten: yes, I'm using dapper08:26
IceToxblindx, then download wine and run photoshop through Wine :-)08:26
Phlostenstjepan, you can install the more recent version from the checkinstall website08:26
johanbrblindx: There's something called gimpshop that's supposed to more closely resemble photoshop. I don't think it's in ubuntu, though.08:26
Frogzooblindx: photoshop is more fully featured than gimp - but gimp is free08:26
MadpilotIceTox, for functional applets, try right-clicking on either panel (top or bottom) and select "Add to Panel" - there's some useful things there08:26
Frogzooblindx: what you need to do is to get photoshop running under wine08:27
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blindxFrogzoo: I have it running under wine.08:27
blindxAnd I have it for free ;)08:27
Phlostenblindx, gimpshop is a script that rearranges and renames bits and pieces in the gimp to resemble photoshop more08:27
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IceToxMadpilot, I was more looking for a eye candy tool to get my desktop look better :-)08:27
johanbr IceTox: There's a variation on gdesklets called adesklets. Not sure what the difference is.08:28
spikebanyone here use gtkpod?08:28
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blindxIs there any utility that anyone knows off that will take a program off the taskbar, and instead give it an icon in the "tray" ?08:29
FlannelKingIceTox: thats what all the "desktop candy" is.  applets08:29
IceToxI'll check it out then johanbr :-)08:29
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johanbrblindx: That's not easily done. The system tray and the task list are completely different from a programming point of view.08:29
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HedgeMagequestion: have a newbie who, during an upgrade from hoary to breezy, didn't accept some of the config file changes he should have.  Are the new versions that he didn't used saved anywhere so we can just move them over?08:29
Absenthanyone here run the ventrilo server on ubuntu?08:29
IceToxYeah, but I simply didn't got that gdesklets program to work properly FlannelKing :-)08:30
DBOHedgeMage, what config files?08:30
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FlannelKingIceTox: you just apt get it, don't get the -applets or... -data or whatever package.  then run it, and add stuff.08:30
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johanbrHedgeMage: They're called filename.dpkg-new .08:30
blindxjohanbr, how about something else then.. possibly putting certain programs on a seperate panel on the side?08:30
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HedgeMageDBO: I think hardparm.conf is one of them, will attempt to figure out the rest when I have that sorted.08:31
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HedgeMagejohanbr: thank you that saves me quite a bit of work (I'm on Dapper so don't know what differences there may be offhand)08:31
johanbrblindx: That should definitely be doable. Don't know of any such utility offhand, though.08:31
carthikblindx use http://alltray.sourceforge.net/ maybe08:32
DBOHedgeMage, Im not 100% sure, but I dont think keeping his old hdparm.conf (provided it was working) would really break anything...08:32
carthikblindx i used it about 6 months ago last08:32
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Sp4rKyhi guys08:32
DBOhi Sp4rKy08:33
blindxthat's exactly what i wanted!!08:33
blindxcarthik, you're a god send08:33
HedgeMageDBO: I'm hoping not... but I want to see what the diffs are08:33
blindx:D08:33
Sp4rKydoes anyone use swsusp2 and could says me what is the resume2 option08:33
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HedgeMageDBO: easiest way to know if it's the culprit08:33
carthikblindx, that will be $10 :P08:33
blindxCan't I just put out?08:33
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ppcguyhey all question.. I hozed my xorg.conf.. Trying to rename and use my backup, but having syntax issues08:34
johanbrSp4rKy: It tells susp2 which partition to use for reading/writing the memory image.08:35
blindxdpkg-deb: `alltray.ubuntu_0.60-1_i386.deb' is not a debian format archive08:35
Frogzooppcguy: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:35
DBOHedgeMage, I believe the defaul hdparm.conf that comes with 5.10 is one line of non-commented text, that being "quiet"08:35
blindxuh.. i clicked the "debian" download link.08:35
Phlostenhow does one clear out broken deb packages,..i had to stop a system update and now I have some corrupted .deb packages08:35
ppcguyFrogzoo, is that easier than using the backup?08:35
blindxerrr "ubuntu"08:35
Sp4rKyjohanbr, ok , but i've put "resume2=/dev/hdc10" on the kernel line of the menu.lst , hdc10 is my swap08:35
Frogzooppcguy: or just move the backup back in place08:35
Sp4rKyjohanbr, and it doesn't works at startup08:36
HedgeMageDBO: He had some (unspecified) "tweaks" in the old one... I had no idea what goes in there and wanted an example in case things needed ripping out08:36
blindxer nevermind. i did save as, it's going through sourceforge08:36
ppcguythat's what I'm trying to do.. me thinks I'm using the wrong command08:36
johanbrSp4rKy: and you're using a custom kernel patched with suspend2?08:36
Frogzooppcguy: 'sudo mv xorg.conf.6786898 xorg.conf'08:36
Sp4rKyjohanbr, yes , 2.6.16.508:36
ppcguylet me try that again.. thought that was right08:36
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johanbrSp4rKy: There should be some suspend2 lines in syslog telling you why it didn't resume.08:37
DBOHedgeMage, http://pastebin.com/668741 that is unmodified since i got it08:37
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blindxOh absolutely beautifulllllllllll.08:37
HedgeMageDBO: good, safe to start ripping stuff out then08:38
Sp4rKyjohanbr, no :( but at the startup of the computer, i've some wrning like "resume2= not set correctly , plesase set t and restart before use swsusp2"08:38
Sp4rKyjohanbr, do you use swsusp2 ?08:38
blindxnow lets see. the only way this could get even more beautiful is if.....  is there anyway I can add a command to the right click menu? (when you right click the taskbar/menubar of a program)08:38
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FlannelKingblindx: yes, but I've forgotten how.  If you look for details about how to re-add the terminal to the right click menu, you'll be able to generalize08:39
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Sp4rKyjohanbr, here is the exact line "Apr 19 07:28:47 localhost kernel: [4294667.296000]  Kernel command line: root=/dev/hdc6 ro quiet resume2=/dev/hdc1008:39
Sp4rKyApr 19 07:28:47 localhost kernel: [4294670.593000]  Suspend2 2.2.4: Missing or invalid storage location (resume2= parameter). Please correct and rerun lilo (or equivalent) before suspending.08:39
Sp4rKy"08:39
johanbrSp4rKy: I used to. Try resume2=swap:/dev/hdc10 .08:39
Sp4rKyok , i'll try08:39
Sp4rKyon the kernel line ?08:39
johanbrSp4rKy: yes08:40
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blindxoh my goodness. carthik, I owe you :P08:40
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stjepanwhile installing my checkinstalled qemu package, I get this error:08:40
stjepandpkg: error processing qemu_0.8.0-1_i386.deb (--install):08:40
stjepan trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.15-20-686/modules.usbmap', which is also in package linux-image-2.6.15-20-68608:40
stjepanhow to fix this?08:40
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carthikblindx, glad to see you see that the demand for $10 is well justified.08:40
Sp4rKyjohanbr, i reboot  and i'll come back08:40
carthikblindx, just kidding, of course08:41
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blindxsure you are.08:41
Frogzoostjepan: for dapper support -> #ubuntu+108:41
johanbrstjepan: Remove that file before you run the checkinstall. Or, if you're feeling brave, do "dpkg --force all blah.deb". In general, the latter is a bad idea.08:41
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Frogzoomatth-w: you get your flash working?08:44
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ppcguythanks much frogzoo think all is sorted now08:45
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caturOKhello08:47
caturOKcan i ask some quest here08:47
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Tomcat_!ask08:47
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.08:48
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caturOKhow to my wlan card supported at my ubuntu08:48
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Frogzoo!wifi08:48
caturOKi mean to configure it08:48
ubotufrom memory, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto08:48
caturOKyes08:48
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caturOKi read and i try step by step from u say but not help me full08:49
blindxwhat was the name of that program? gimpshop?08:50
blindxer script08:50
johanbryes08:50
bimberiblindx: yes08:50
blindxmay be worth looking into08:50
blindxrunning PS7 under wine, text functionality is out the window :)08:50
Strayhikariok I've been trying for days to get this to work and its impossible :(08:50
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blindxmeh, I should go to bed. I have english class in the morning that I cannot miss.08:51
fyrestrtrblindx: maybe you should dual boot08:51
StrayhikariCoudl someone please help me with setting up wireless?08:51
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blindxfyrestrtr, i don't have the patience.08:51
Frogzoo!wifi08:51
ubotuit has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto08:51
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sobbbberhow will i format an SD card in a card reader (acts as flash disk) in ubuntu?08:51
StrayhikariI've gone thorugh that08:51
Strayhikaridoesn't help me :(08:51
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blindxStrayhikari, specific problem?08:52
johanbrblindx: Which morning is it that you cannot miss? :)08:52
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blindxthe morning I'm supposed to be having in about 7 hours :)08:52
StrayhikariMy usb prism2 wlan card will not work08:52
Frogzoosobbbber: just the usual - fdisk - & mkfs08:52
Strayhikariit is being detcted in lsusb, the modules are loading (prism2_usb), wireless-tools are installed, but it wont' activate the device for some reason :(08:53
blindxit won't activate?08:53
sobbbberFrogzoo: what exactly do i type?.. sorry i'm new w/ these things.08:53
johanbrStrayhikari: Anything in dmesg just after you load the modules?08:53
FrogzooStrayhikari: sure you've got the right device name? it's sometimes wlan0, sometimes eth1 etc.08:53
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Strayhikariwell, when I try a command like iwconfig wlan0 Essid myessid it gives me this error,08:54
FrogzooStrayhikari: what do you get from 'sudo iwconfig' ?08:54
Strayhikari"error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) : SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not permitted08:55
Strayhikariit says wlan0 has no wireless extentions08:55
Strayhikari*extensions08:55
Madpilotneed sleep - later, all, don't let the spambots bite :P08:55
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blindxtry eth1, Strayhikari08:56
johanbrStrayhikari: Does ifconfig -a say anything about a wlan0 interface?08:56
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pvd2006only two more months until the next new release of Ubuntu right?08:57
StrayhikariJohanbr: it says its just another connection with no address MAC or IP08:57
StrayhikariBlindx: trying08:57
GTroyhey guys, I'm thinking about a laptop to compliment my dekstop.  for cheap where should I start?08:57
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Strayhikarifailed with same error Blindx08:57
GTroythis maybe offtopic08:57
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FlannelKingGTroy: so, ask in -offtopic ;)08:58
blindxdo a iwconfig, Strayhikari ... anything that doesn't say "no wireless extensions" ?08:58
johanbrStrayhikari: What *does* it print for wlan0? Is there a line saying "Link encap:" ?08:58
GTroyFlannelKing: I think I'd get better support here :(08:58
FrogzooStrayhikari: radio extensions needs to show up with 'iwconfig' if not, check /var/log/messages for driver problems08:58
fyrestrtrpvd2006: June 1 is what I hear.08:58
GTroyand it's not too offtopic08:58
StrayhikariBlindx: nope all 4 of the connections listed say that (eth0, wlan0, sit0 and loopback)08:58
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Frogzoog2g08:59
fyrestrtrGTroy: for cheap, try Dell -- but this does belong in -offtopic08:59
pvd2006fyrestrtr, cool I heard it's goign to have a lot of improvements08:59
StrayhikariJohan: Link encap:Ethernet08:59
GTroythanks fyrestrtr08:59
fyrestrtrpvd2006: well you would hope, since its the next version up :)08:59
StrayhikariFrog: checking08:59
fyrestrtrpvd2006: its not Windows08:59
pvd2006ha, yeah08:59
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pvd2006when it gets updated to the new release, do you have to reburn it or can you just update it through the internet?09:01
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FlannelKingpvd2006: internet09:01
pvd2006thats good.09:01
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FlannelKingpvd2006: it's just like the security updates/etc.  except a lot more packages.09:02
pvd2006I See. sounds good.09:02
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sobbbberhow will i format an SD card in a card reader (acts as flash disk) in ubuntu?09:02
johanbrStrayhikari: Alright, so you at least have an interface. Does "dmesg |grep -i prism" tell you anything interesting?09:03
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sobbbberhelp please.. i'm new w/ these things e.09:03
stjepando you know any .deb editors?09:03
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akonkwaCan anyone help me trhough installing Java 5.0 on my computer so I can use it with eclipse?09:04
johanbrsobbbber: You got an answer before: with fdisk and mkfs.09:04
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GTroywhat's the ubuntu xgl channel?09:04
bimberi!xgl09:04
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/09:04
sobbbberhow will i use fdisk and mkfs?09:04
GTroythanks bimeri09:04
GTroybimberi09:04
StrayhikariJohan: just that it is loaded09:04
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bimberiGTroy: yw :)09:04
Strayhikarididn't find any problems in /var/log/message either09:04
blindxwhat to do after sudo make install ??09:04
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stjepanwhat type of archive is .deb? bz2, tar, tar.gz or what?09:05
blindxit's a deb09:05
pvd2006its .deb09:05
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stjepanI want to remove one file from my deb09:05
stjepanI checkinstalled qemu09:05
stjepanand there's one file which I want to remove09:06
blindxtry opening it with archive manager. no guarantees.09:06
StrayhikariAnyone have any other ideas?09:06
thoreauputicstjepan: dpkg -x/destination/directory will uncompress a deb09:06
johanbrstjepan: It's an ar archive with tar.gz files inside.09:06
thoreauputicumm - space after -x09:06
stjepanhere's the error:09:06
stjepandpkg: error processing qemu_0.8.0-1_i386.deb (--install):09:06
stjepan trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.15-20-686/modules.usbmap', which is also in package linux-image-2.6.15-20-68609:06
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blindxcan someone help me install gimpshop? :x09:07
thoreauputicstjepan: I suggest using the script on the qemu wiki page09:07
thoreauputic!qemu09:07
ubotumethinks qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=109:07
thoreauputichmm09:07
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thoreauputicactually it might be under kqemu09:08
thoreauputicaha - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KQEmu09:08
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thoreauputicubotu, kqemu is to install qemu with the non-free kernel module for speed, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KQEmu09:10
ubotu...but kqemu is already something else...09:10
thoreauputicah OK09:10
thoreauputic!kqemu09:10
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thoreauputichmm long factoid...09:10
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stjepanthoreauputic: who's ubotu?09:11
stjepanis he really a bot?09:11
slavikthe resident AI09:11
thoreauputicstjepan: a bot09:11
thoreauputic!ubotu09:11
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.09:11
stjepanand he's so smart?09:11
slavikhe is the 10 bn USD culmination into AI research09:11
blindx..ubotu is the smartest bot I've ever seen09:11
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thoreauputicstjepan: he only knows what he's told :)09:11
stjepanthoreauputic: but you told him something and he replied quite well09:12
slavikblindx is 100bn of AI research ... hence 10x smarter than ubotu09:12
Phlostenslavik, hope someone claimed it as a tax deduction09:12
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slavikPhlosten: I did :)09:12
thoreauputicstjepan: yes, he's programmed to say that if the factoid exists09:12
blindxubotu's got me beat, please :P09:12
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sobbbberwhat's the command for delete?09:13
slavik!me09:13
ubotuslavik: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:13
slavikrm?09:13
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thoreauputicstjepan: the script on the kqemu page works well - I used it to install qemu here09:13
valehruhmm..09:13
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stjepanthoreauputic: didn't work for me09:14
valehrucannot seem to open synaptic package manager at all..09:14
thoreauputicsobbbber: delete what?09:14
stjepanbtw, there's a bug with it09:14
valehruits just not responding09:14
stjepanyou must compile qemu with gcc-3.4 and kqemu with gcc-4.009:14
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thoreauputicstjepan: not so09:14
valehrusudo apt-get install azarus ; just asks me for the root password and then does nothing...no output or anything09:14
thoreauputicstjepan: if you look at the script you'll see that it compile swith gcc-3.409:15
blindxazarus? :P09:15
blindxtry azureus09:15
sobbbberthoreauputic: deleting a file09:15
thoreauputicstjepan: you must use the same compiler for both kernel and module09:15
stjepanthoreauputic: yeah, but, kqemu must be compiled with 4.009:15
blindxrm file09:15
blake_ubuntuhi, im building a new system for the new dapper drake comming out09:15
valehrustill nothing blindx09:15
thoreauputicstjepan: again, no09:15
valehruvalehru@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install azureus09:15
valehruvalehru@ubuntu:~$09:15
blake_ubuntui have chose the antec p180 case but i dont know where to go from there09:15
slavikblake_ubuntu: you can use your old one :D09:15
blake_ubuntuwell...09:16
slavikblake_ubuntu: Lian PC75 :D09:16
slavikAthlon FX6009:16
blake_ubuntuisnt it a memory hog and needs a nice videocard?09:16
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blindxvalehru, what happens when you do a sudo apt-get update  ?09:16
slavik4GB of RAM09:16
sobbbberthoreauputic: how about deleting a directory?09:16
blindxrmdir dirname09:16
valehrunothing09:16
blake_ubuntuno09:16
slavikblake_ubuntu: you are thinking of windows09:16
valehruno output or anything09:16
blake_ubuntua gig of 3200 shoudl be fine09:16
slavikblake_ubuntu: NO!!!09:16
valehrujust returns back to the promp...no output..09:16
thoreauputicsobbbber: rmdir if empty, rm -rf if not09:16
blindxvalehru, I haven't a clue.09:17
blake_ubuntu?09:17
CypherIncWhats going on?09:17
slavik4GB of OCZ DDR50009:17
thoreauputicsobbbber: but be careful with rm -rf09:17
slavik2 7900GTX in SLI09:17
stjepanthoreauputic: cd qemu-* && rm /usr/bin/gcc && ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc && make && cd kqemu && make clean && rm /usr/bin/gcc && ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 /usr/bin/gcc && make && cd .. && checkinstall -y09:17
valehrugo for the OCZ....thats nice RAM09:17
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blindxbetter off just cleaning the directory first with rm dirname/*09:17
slavikumm, VAPOCHILL!!!09:17
blake_ubuntuslavik, that is so dam pointless09:17
hulleyeHi, need some help setting up a Samsung SCX-4216f printer with Breezy09:17
slavikwhat?09:17
blindxbe very very very careful if you go the route of rm -rf09:17
blake_ubuntuim looking to spend 800 on th system09:18
CypherIncI have a question, what the hell is Breezy?09:18
blake_ubuntunot 500009:18
blindxlmfao CypherInc09:18
hulleyeas in Ubuntu 5.1009:18
CypherInc:)09:18
CypherIncroger :)09:18
abhinavrs232 programming linux.any idea?09:18
PhlostenUbuntu Breezy 5.1009:18
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blindxbreezy describes what the wind outside is doing09:18
CypherIncSorry, im new to Linux and Ubuntu09:18
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CypherIncI came from FreeBSD, and windows09:19
thoreauputicstjepan: how can a module compiled with gcc 4 be compatible with a kernel compiled with gcc-3.4 ? genuine question...09:19
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slavikCypherInc: when you find out what 'Breezy" is ... lmk :)09:19
CypherIncbreezy, also the name of a great stripper at this dirty little club around the corner from my old apartment :)09:19
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slavikCypherInc: FreeBSD ftw:D09:19
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stjepanthoreauputic: if I compile it with gcc-3.4, I'll get error with modprobing kqemu: invalid module format09:19
blindxCypherInc, speaking from very recent experience: ask the question, even if you feel stupid.09:19
slavikCypherInc: she hot?09:19
slavikblindx: he did09:20
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blindxin general, slavik09:20
blindxnot just the one09:20
slavikoh, ok09:20
CypherIncblind, I find I feel stupid most of the time I spend reading ubuntu stuff, because its all just differnt enough that I have to look/ask :)09:20
BlackBishophi people, anyone can help me with a lil' wireless problem ?09:20
thoreauputicstjepan: well, all I can tell you is that following the wiki and using the script worked fine here09:20
CypherIncslavik, she was this great little brunet with perky, uhm, assets :)09:20
blindx!tell BlackBishop about wifi09:20
slavikwas?09:20
slavikisn't anymore?09:20
CypherIncwell09:20
slavikwhere you live?09:21
CypherIncI havent been in 6 years09:21
slavikhmm09:21
BlackBishopI get something about SET failed on device wlan0 ; Argument list too long.09:21
CypherIncI live outside of Pittsburgh, this was in Chicago09:21
slavikoh, nvm09:21
blindxBlackBishop, when trying to do what?09:21
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stjepanthoreauputic: but not for me ;)09:21
thoreauputicstjepan: evidently09:21
BlackBishopall I do is iwconfig wlan0 mode managed09:21
thoreauputic:(09:21
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BlackBishophmm .. how do I make my key in hex ?09:22
CypherIncso, I got one for you guys, my buddy is running this really neat web interface for Amarok, is that built into Amarok by default, or is that an addon of some sort?09:22
BlackBishopI tried copy/paste the text in mceditor and then f4 or f3 to hexify it09:22
blindxBlackBishop, ever considered using the gui?09:22
slavikyes09:22
CypherIncis that like 7? :)09:22
BlackBishopwhat guy ? :D09:22
blindxhaha.09:22
slavikno09:22
blindxsystem > administration > networking09:22
slavikmaybe09:23
CypherIncok09:23
CypherIncgood09:23
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blindx2 penny culmination haha09:23
blindxi like that09:23
slavikNO!!!09:23
=== CypherInc is the anthisis of jack daniels and a broken condom, whats your point? :)
slavikCypherInc: you believe in god?09:24
CypherIncUhm09:24
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slavikyes or no09:24
CypherIncodd question for a linux room09:24
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CypherIncThe quick easy answer is no09:24
slavikhmm, CypherInc, you sure?09:24
CypherIncyes09:25
CypherIncmost deffintly09:25
blindxyou're going to hell!09:25
blindxlol just kidding09:25
slavikCypherInc: then you're an accident :P09:25
hulleyeblindx or slavik: could anyone here help me out with setting up a printer... am a complete newbie to Ubuntu and the Linux world in general09:25
thoreauputicguys, religious discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic please09:25
CypherIncHey, go to heaven for the view, go to hell for the conversations :)09:25
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slavikwe're not discussing religion :P09:25
blindxlol why do you pick my name? I just started this last week :P09:25
CypherIncwere simply calirifying and verifying :)09:25
thoreauputic*cough* /join #ubuntu-offtopic09:25
slavikyes09:25
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hulleyeblindx: you were being nice enough about the wifi prob :)09:26
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thoreauputicjust that these sorts of discussions tend to escalate09:26
blake_ubuntuwhat is the best amd motherboard?09:26
BlackBishophmm .. it's a wpa key ( TKIP )09:26
CypherIncwould not want to get in the way of some one explaining ls again09:26
slavikhulleye: can't help, I still can't get my printer working through samba09:26
blindx!printer09:26
ubotuI guess printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org09:26
thoreauputicCypherInc: heheh09:26
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blindxBlackBishop, there's instructions on how to hook up WPA keys at... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto09:27
blake_ubuntu?09:27
hulleyeblindx: been through those... no help there09:27
BlackBishop>:)09:27
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hulleyeslavik: :(09:27
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BlackBishopwhy is it https ?09:27
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blindxcause it's secure.09:27
slavikit's not the realpage09:27
slavikthat page will offer you breast implants and lots of drugs09:28
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blindxmostly drugs.09:28
blindxsorry hulleye: the only reason i help out the wifi people is cause i had major problems setting up my wifi, so now i know my way around it :P09:28
blindxbut i don't know much about anything else.09:29
StrayhikariYou have any more ideas for me Blind?09:29
hulleyeblindx: ah well... thanks anyway09:29
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BlackBishop:))09:29
blindxStrayhikari, you have no wireless extensions, right?09:29
Strayhikarithat is what iwconfig says09:30
blindxWell then the only thing I can think of..09:30
StrayhikariHow do I get them/09:30
blindxis that your card isn't set up properly.09:30
Strayhikariyou know a way I could configure it/09:30
BlackBishopit says here : sudo wpa_supplicant -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w09:30
BlackBishopI don't use madwifi09:30
blindxbeen through the wiki, Strayhikari ?09:30
BlackBishopor ndiswrapper09:31
BlackBishopI have a x-micro card09:31
BlackBishopzd121109:31
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Strayhikariyessum09:31
Strayhikarialthough the wiki doesn't really say much09:31
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blindxthe wiki doesn't say much?09:32
blindxyou're not reading it correctly, then09:32
blindxlol09:32
Strayhikarijust where to get a driver, however for me dapper autodetected and setup my module09:32
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blindxStrayhikari, you're on dapper?09:32
Strayhikariwell I came from archlinux, where the wiki told me which conf files in etc to edit to setup essid and everything on boot line for line09:32
Strayhikariall the wiki says int eh 'setup' section is to get a driver, and lists some09:33
Strayhikariyes I'm on 6.0609:33
blindxhave you been toooo #ubuntu+1 ?09:33
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BlackBishophmm .. -Dzd1211 says Unsupported driver 'zd1211'.09:33
StrayhikariI'm in ubuntu+109:33
StrayhikariJust kind of frustrated, maybe my card is shot :-/09:34
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coreidI have a aironet 350 miniPCI card which is not working with current 2.6.15-20-686 kernel on Dapper, anybody else having similar issues ?09:36
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ajmitchSeveas: as long as you're around to deal with the spambots again09:36
Seveasajmitch, yep09:36
slavikSeveas: yippeee :D09:36
SeveasI have the +R trigger loaded and ready to fire09:36
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Seveasalong with Mr. T's pity blaster09:37
CypherIncQuestion: How do I remove the defualt gimp instalation?09:39
Seveasapt-get remove gimp09:40
CypherIncanyone use gimp-shop?09:40
Phlosteni am installing new gimp atm09:40
CypherIncatm?09:40
CypherIncoh09:41
CypherIncdisreguard :)09:41
thoreauputicCypherInc: *someone* must I guess ;-)09:41
slavikahh pity da fool who think mr. t only says 'ahh pity da fool'09:41
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CypherIncany great new features in the new gimp, or is it bug fixes?09:41
slavikSeveas: what is the best way for ubuntu to see more recent packages?09:41
slavikie: blender 2.41 instead of 2.37a09:41
slavikand such09:42
Seveas!info blender dapper09:42
ubotublender: (Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer), section graphics, is optional. Version: 2.41-1ubuntu4 (dapper), Packaged size: 4734 kB, Installed size: 12588 kB09:42
slavikmaybe an anjuta 2.0.1 package?09:42
Seveasupgrade to dapper 09:42
slavikgrr, backports?09:42
slavikgrr09:42
Seveasbreezy will not receive new versions09:42
BlackBishopDAMN TKIP .. and wpa .. and grrrrrrrrrrrrr09:42
BlackBishopdriving me nuts !!!!09:42
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slavikwifi-radar09:43
=== thoreauputic high fives ompaul (just to get in first) ;)
ompaulthoreauputic, good morning09:43
slavikSeveas: you know if network manager will handle wpa-eap?09:43
BlackBishopif I specify iwconfig wlan0 key normal_key .. .it said invalid argument09:43
thoreauputicompaul: good evening :)09:43
ompaul!goodmorning09:43
ubotuGooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu! It looks like another beautiful ubuntuous day, may humanity be with you and your problems be solved :)09:43
slavikBlackBishop: use wifi-radar09:44
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BlackBishopif I put it in hex .. it says argument list too long ..09:44
Seveasslavik, not all eap functionality is there yet09:44
thoreauputicompaul: are you responsile for that factoid ? :)09:44
ompaulno09:44
slavikSeveas: my college is running eap-pap ...would be nice if it was supported09:44
slavik!v2000z09:44
Seveasslavik, I'm using that too - no luck yet with NM09:44
ubotu[v2000z]  The followng wiki page has some information on fixing problems you might encounter with installing Breezy Badger on the Compaq Presario V2000Z. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/CompaqPresarioV2000Z09:44
slavikp00p09:45
BlackBishopand the wpasupplicant says something like .. driver not supported .. zd121109:45
slavikbecause I can't figure out how to config wpa_supplicant and get it running ...09:45
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Seveasslavik, I can give you the wpa_supplicant config for it, works fine here ;)09:46
slavikbut how do I start it and such?09:46
slaviksure09:46
slavikwant my email?09:46
BlackBishopI did wpa_passphrase09:46
BlackBishopit generates the file ..09:46
SeveasI'll pastebin it, one sec09:46
slavikI mean, options and such09:46
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Seveasbtw, config is dapper specific09:47
slavikisn't NM a front end for wpa_supplicant, too?09:47
slavikoh, nvm then09:47
BlackBishopgrrrr ..09:47
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Seveasin breezy wpa_supplicant was integrated quite badly09:47
slavikI see09:48
BlackBishopI'm starting to hate ubuntu !09:48
cyphasedoes anyone know of any good cross platform astronomy software?09:48
BlackBishopI'm trying since yesterday to make it work !09:48
slavikBlackBishop: use wireless connection manager09:48
cyphasei've already got celestia and stellarium09:48
SeveasBlackBishop, then try another distro, distrowatch has enough optioins for you 09:48
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BlackBishopSeveas, well .. also have a fedora on a lappie ..09:48
BlackBishopsamn freakin' thing !09:48
slaviklike mandriva with urpmi09:49
BlackBishopNO WAY i'm using mandriva09:49
BlackBishopit sux .. hard !09:49
slavikjust don't update urpmi with urpmi ...09:49
cyphasemandriva? it's still named mandriva?09:49
slavikBlackBishop: that's good ;)09:49
BlackBishopwpa_supplicant-0.4.8-7.fc509:49
Seveascyphase, it's mandrova, past tense ;)09:49
slavikrofl09:49
BlackBishop[root@BooB init.d] # lsmod | grep -i zd09:49
BlackBishopzd1211                262812  009:49
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cyphase:D09:50
BlackBishopmy other network works just fine ..09:50
concept10was anyone else banned from #debian today?09:50
stjepananyone here interested in developing a wm?09:50
cgeconcept10, why?09:51
Seveasstjepan, we have enough of those already 09:51
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stjepanSeveas: but none of them are ok09:51
stjepan:P09:51
Seveasstjepan, then fix one of them ;)09:52
Phlostenstjepan, develop another distro while you are at it, just to add another one of those too09:52
slavikstjepan: let's develop a virtual strip club ... there aren't any at all :(09:52
stjepanSeveas: no, it is better to start developing a new one09:52
stjepanno09:52
cgestjepan, have you looked at all of the current ones?09:52
JPapciakAnyone care to help a complete Linux idiot/newcomer?  I installed Ubuntu last night, had it running, went to Windows to do something, came back and it appears to load correctly, but when it is upposed to reach the desktop, it just goes to a black screen.09:52
SeveasPhlosten, don't forget the obligatory new text editor09:52
concept10cge, I was banned for no reason, maybe because of the attacks on freenode.  I havent typed a sentence in there in a couple of weeks.  Xchat just automatically connects to the channel for me09:52
slavike17 will be nice supposedly09:52
stjepanI am sick of all these mousy-wimp WMs09:52
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cgestjepan, try wmii-309:53
PhlostenSeveas, indeed, you can never have too many text editors.....09:53
slavikSeveas: would be nice if changing wm in gnome was easier ...09:53
Seveasslavik, ./wm --replace09:53
slavikSeveas: will it keep the system -> prefs link to the new wm config?09:53
BlackBishop.... I'm as close as I can get to throwing my computers out the window09:54
stjepancge: I saw it and it's great, but I want to make a wm like WMII, but with eye-candy09:54
Seveasprobably not09:54
slavikexactly09:54
johanbrAnyone developed a wm that can send e-mail yet? :)09:54
stjepanI'm gonna kill XGL and Compiz with my WM :)09:54
BlackBishopwhat the heck is so hard setting a key for a network09:54
Seveascompiz is quite bad09:54
slavikBlackBishop: use wireless connection manager09:54
BlackBishopkwifimanager ?09:54
slavikno09:54
slavikSeveas: what's the package name for wireless connection manager applet?09:55
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slavikBlackBishop: you in gnome or kde?09:55
BlackBishopkde09:55
stjepanSeveas: I want to bring easy-to-useness, eye-candyness, featurness and speedness together09:55
cgestjepan, err, ok. Asking about this in the #ubuntu channel is probably a bad idea. I doubt many people here besides myself use wmii. I would suggest starting from a base like wmii-3 (the development version, which doesn't use all the plan9 stuff), instead of trying to start completely anew.09:55
spikebin other words, you want emacs as a window manager09:55
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Seveasslavik, no idea, I don't use those things because they don't do wpa 09:55
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stjepanSPAM09:56
cgeer09:56
Phlostenarg09:56
slavikwow09:56
Seveasand the f*ers are back09:56
BlackBishopthat's lame09:56
ajmitchSeveas: nice quick reactions :)09:56
ompaulSeveas, nice catch09:56
thoreauputicunimaginative spam at that09:56
Seveasajmitch, way too slow09:56
Phlostenquick shot Seveas to the rescue09:56
stjepanand it won't be completely new, I will use PyWM base09:56
ajmitchmight be worth leaving it +R for awhile, as annoying as it is09:56
topylistjepan: try gnome with gimmie. not wimp, concentrates on objects09:57
slavikBlackBishop: you in gnome or kde?09:57
BlackBishopKDE09:57
cgeconcept10, I could ask about it on #debian if you want me to.09:57
topylistjepan: like jdub puts it, "people, events, documents, and getting laid"09:57
stjepantopyli: I want to control everything with keyboard only09:57
slavikBlackBishop: then try kwifimanager09:57
BlackBishopI am09:57
slavikI like "getting laid"09:57
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slaviktime for me to sleep, night all09:57
concept10cge, do that for me please09:57
BlackBishopI click on settings ..09:58
johanbr topyli: Exactly what is that supposed to be a list of? :)09:58
topylistjepan: you can do it with current window managers. enlightenment(16) and ratpoison at least09:58
BlackBishopand then on configuration editor09:58
BlackBishopI click on "Use encryption"09:58
BlackBishopclick on configure09:58
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topylijohanbr: it's a list of things users care about, as opposed to "sindows, icons, menus, and pointers" :)09:58
BlackBishopand I see .. Key to use "1" Crypto mode ( open shared ) crypto keys 1 2 3 409:58
stjepantopyli: they are not good enough09:58
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BlackBishopI only have a normal tkip key .. of 19 chars09:59
topylistjepan: improve them09:59
cgestjepan, I would certainly be interested in seeing any development on it.09:59
stjepantopyli: I want Python, not C, not C++09:59
johanbrtopyli: "sindows" ? Does that have something to do with the "getting laid" part? :)09:59
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stjepanwhy python? - because of development speed10:00
Seveas@reload exploitban10:00
UbugtuError: I tried to send you an empty message.10:00
SeveasUbugtu, die!10:00
topylijohanbr: it just means you shouldn't waste your time fiddling with your user interface. you should just get people, events, objects, and laid10:01
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Seveaswee 10:01
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topylijohanbr: that's why the new experimental interface is called "gimmie"10:01
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BlackBishopok, should I throw out my computer or not ?10:02
SeveasBlackBishop, probably10:02
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BlackBishopnoone's helping making that damn connection to a TKIP crypted AP10:02
topylijohanbr, stjepan: but this is #ubuntu-offtopic stuff10:02
hyphenatedBlackBishop: it's a tricky thing to get working perfectly10:02
SeveasBlackBishop, does your driver do wpa via wext?10:02
BlackBishopI don't need it to work perfectly ..10:02
BlackBishopI just want it to work10:03
hyphenatedBlackBishop: it should be easy, but the tools in place these days are oriented around WEP not WPA10:03
Seveasif not: either use ndiswrapper or use wep10:03
BlackBishopSeveas, what's wext ?10:03
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SeveasBlackBishop, try -Dwext as argument to wpasupplicant10:03
BlackBishopcan't use wep .. the damn accesspoint is using WPA-PSK ( TKIP )10:03
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hyphenatedBlackBishop: what type of wireless card/driver are you using?10:03
Seveashyphenated, zd1211 oslt10:04
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BlackBishopok .. this is weird10:04
fartwhere can i download PyGtk-210:04
BlackBishopI did wpa_supplicant -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext -w10:04
BlackBishopand I don't get any message10:04
BlackBishopshould I be getting any ?10:04
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hyphenatedfart: what package manager tool are you using?10:05
fartsynaptic10:05
johanbrBlackBishop: I'll try to refrain from making a pun on your last message. What does "sudo wpa_cli status" say?10:05
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hyphenatedfart: there should be a little 'search' area in it. type in pygtk and see what comes up10:05
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BlackBishopow :P10:06
fartcantt find it in search10:06
captainredbeardI installed the kubuntu-desktop package on ubuntu for a while, but decided to change back, but now all my fonts in ubuntu look different, and won't change back10:06
JediMasterhi all, quick question, is there an install cd for draper, or is it a matter of installing 5.1 and dist-ugprading?10:06
zFWhat command do you use to move files using ftp in term10:06
zFTo move files on the remote machine10:06
cgeJediMaster, a myriad of them.10:06
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dlizF, why not ssh?10:07
JediMastercge: where abouts? I couldn't see any on the ofical download page10:07
BlackBishopselected interface wlan010:07
spikebJediMaster, there's an install cd10:07
BlackBishopwpa_state scanning10:07
BlackBishopip address .. 10.10....10:07
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testhi all10:07
JediMastercould only find 5.10 ISOs10:07
cgeJediMaster, ubuntu.com/testing.10:07
BlackBishophmm .. ok .. I should probably move in a signal area10:07
BlackBishopwait a sec :)10:07
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testi am downloading 5.10 ubuntu10:07
topylifart: apt-cache search shows me pythong-gtk2 and python-gtk2-dev at once. nice nick by the way, could get you banned all by itself10:07
JediMastercge: ahh thanks, there appears to be a lot of stuff on the ubuntu site that is useful, yet hiding =)10:07
testand just was wondering10:07
testwhether it as all the display drivers10:07
spikebJediMaster, heh yeah10:08
testor do i need to install them differently10:08
testcan anyone plz10:08
zFdli, it's a webhosting server, not my own box. I don't have ssh10:08
testclear this for me10:08
JediMasterI presume flight 6 is the latest?10:08
testplz10:08
zFis there no command in ftp to move files?10:08
hyphenatedtest: it should come with something suitable by default10:08
JediMasterok, thanks for your help guys, got to go, on the train to london =)10:08
testand network drivers as well10:08
spikebJediMaster, yes10:08
dlizF: mv10:08
hyphenatedtest: but if you have a 3D graphics card, you may need to do some extra work after installation to enable 3D features10:08
feugan3333Hi all. Does anyone know how to upgrade python modules on ubuntu? When it try to use the standard "python setup.py install" method, I get the following error message: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile10:09
JediMasterand late for work, train derailed this morning lol10:09
testna, mine is a s3 trio 3d/2x10:09
zFdli, that's an invalid command while using ftp10:09
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testits relatively old10:09
dlizF: try lftp10:09
hyphenatedtest: it should have drivers for almost everything. boot a live-cd if you can afford the bandwidth and a spare blank CD ;-)10:09
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ajmitchfeugan3333: install python2.4-dev10:09
topylitest: nothing comes with all drivers. ubuntu will have a sane set of drivers to get you going, and you can get more advanced drivers later if you need them10:09
cafuegofeugan3333: Installing unpackaged python stuff isn't  agreat idea.10:09
testoh ok10:09
ajmitchfeugan3333: iirc it has the necessary stuff for distutils10:09
testis their any site where i can find drivers or this ver of linux10:10
testas all i found is win10:10
zFdli, nothing10:10
testeverywhere10:10
hyphenatedtest: try the live cd first, if you're really worried about it10:10
testok10:10
BlackBishopweird .. no signal .. no network ..10:10
hyphenatedtest: linux doesn't have the same dependency on driver vendors as windows does10:10
BlackBishopand I have about 3 networks around ..10:10
dlitest, you type too many enters, try to speak in sentences10:10
johanbrBlackBishop: Found this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-92327.html . You can ignore everything above the line that says "connecting to an open network", but the rest looks good.10:10
testthanks very much hyphenated, topyli10:10
topylitest: on linux, you rarely hunt for drivers or software on the web. you have it all available with a couple of handy commands10:10
feugan3333cafuego: Why not10:11
testoh ok10:11
testmay be i need to come back again for this10:11
BlackBishopok .. I'm boobling it :D10:11
testok its 553 mb done10:11
teststill 130 mb remaining10:11
testi am downloading 5.1010:11
cafuegofeugan3333: What happens when an upgraded package tries to write a file that suddenly already exists?10:11
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hyphenatednot fast enough, Seveas ;-)10:12
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cafuegowqa*: clever boy10:12
Seveashyphenated, faster than a human could be10:12
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hyphenatedtrue. I'm happier that it's just half a screen full now, rather than how it was earlier10:12
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dliSeveas, can you block the string? since this one sends the same string10:13
cafuegofaster than one of your stoned dutch humans maybe ;-)10:13
elkbuntutopyli, dont, they're seemingly innocent10:13
johanbrI wish proxad would do something about all the spambots on their network.10:13
elkbuntuit's as much an attack on them as our eyes10:13
topylielkbuntu: the power of repetition is too much10:13
cafuegoelkbuntu: If they don't do anything, their entire network will end up being k-lined.10:13
Seveascafuego, don't make me come over to down under and use my cluebat on you :10:13
feugan3333cafuego: Unfortunetly, I'm not left with much choice, since the current version of the module that I want to use is somewhat broken.10:13
thoreauputictopyli: the Goebbels effect ?10:13
elkbuntucafuego, it's not the channel people's fault10:14
topylithoreauputic: yeah :)10:14
cafuegofeugan3333: Which python are you using? 2.3? There may be a python-2.4 package.10:14
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BlackBishopthanks johanbr I'll brb and tell you the results :D10:14
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feugan3333cafuego: No I'm using python 2.410:15
cafuegofeugan3333: ah ok10:15
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blindxaw man10:15
blindxi was gonna go to bed two hours ago10:16
blindxnow im never gonna get up in the morning10:16
spikebheh blindx10:16
Phlostenthere is that point in the night after you become tired, where you start to become more awake and going to bed is pointless10:16
blindxnot to mention i haven't written any of my essay10:16
concept10blindx, I said the same thing two hours ago10:16
hyphenatedPhlosten: it passes quickly10:17
concept10as soon as I finish this css, im gone10:17
blindxnn all10:17
feugan3333cafuego: Well I found a workaround :-) Just copy the new package files into the same directory as your script and it will use that package instead of the system package. Anyways thanks for your help.10:18
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cafuegofeugan3333: neet :-)10:18
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cafuegoUgh, don't you hate it when OCR software pr0duc35 newspeak?10:19
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Seveascafuego, you mean 0R10:21
topyliwe need working ocr. it's very sad today10:21
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topyliof course, if the old prints were more readable, ocr would have a bigger chance of success too10:23
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BlackBishopdamn wpa .. unsuported module zydas10:25
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johanbrBlackBishop: Well, it's time for me to hit the hay, but if you can't get the native drivers working with wpa, I'd suggest ndiswrapper. That works fine for me.10:27
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BlackBishopdoes ndiswrapper support zd1211 stuff ?10:27
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cyphasewow, the Google Summer of Code FAQ mentions Ubuntu10:28
cyphaseand python. i guess because they use both :p10:29
johanbrBlackBishop: According to a quick google, yes. Well, gotta run. Good night, and good luck. :)10:29
BlackBishopthanks10:29
BlackBishopseeyah10:29
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OverandUtil to convert "DOS" format text files into "Linux" format?10:31
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thoreauputicOverand: sysutils10:32
thoreauputicdos2unix10:32
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thoreauputicsysutils: usr/bin/dos2unix10:32
zblachUtil to convert "MPC" format music files into "MP3" format?10:32
thoreauputic!info sysutils10:33
ubotusysutils: (Miscellaneous small system utilities.), section utils, is optional. Version: 1.3.8.5.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 40 kB, Installed size: 156 kB10:33
thoreauputicwhat is mpc format?10:33
zblachi'm not entirely sure10:33
zblachanother media encoder, i'm guessing10:33
zblachit's not a typo, mpc run fine in xmms, but not as mp310:34
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thoreauputicah - musepack10:34
nathanjzblach: http://www.filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=mpc10:34
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zblachi can run 'em, but i wouldn't mind putting it on my iPod, which, unfortunately, has very little support for anything other than mp310:35
zblachand rockbox is still a little unstable10:35
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Overandthoreauputic: can I get that to recurse directories?10:37
OverandThis is turning out to be a pain10:37
Overandheh10:37
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thoreauputicOverand: I've never used it - try the man page10:37
thoreauputicOverand: I found it with  apt-file search dos2unix10:38
noiesmohey how can i see how much traffic/ bandwidth a web conection is using10:38
nathanjzblach: tryed just renaming the file to .mp3?10:38
thoreauputicnoiesmo: iptop perhaps10:38
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thoreauputicsorry iftop10:39
noiesmothoreauputic, thanks10:40
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Pr0phetiKHello! I'm a bit new with Linux..10:42
Pr0phetiKCould anyone help me troubleshoot something really quick, if it wasn't too much trouble? :(10:42
vinboykde channel is getting flooded10:42
noiesmothoreauputic, is there a way to get apache to ban an ip address10:42
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jadacyrusif i want cron to run chkrootkit and updatedb I should use root's crontab isntead of my user right?10:42
thoreauputicnoiesmo: don't knw, sorry - why not just use iptables/ firewall ?10:43
noiesmojadacyrus, yes10:43
jadacyrusk cool10:43
noiesmothoreauputic, just want to do it temp but iptables could be the go10:43
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Pr0phetiKI just installed Ubuntu 5.10 onto my box (Opteron 170, 2GB DDR, GeForce 7800GT, 2 IDE HDD, 2 DVD, NVRAID), and after the login screen, I get the blank brownish background with a scrambled white box.. does anyone know why?10:44
Henknoiesmo, look at "deny from"10:44
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noiesmoHenk, yes10:45
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purestrainhello.... can someone tell me what "msttcorefonts is not available in any software channel" means? don't find any way to install msttcorefonts... it's not available in universe either10:47
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thoreauputic!info msttcorefonts10:48
ubotumsttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB10:48
jadacyruspurestrain: I think automatix will isntall msttcorefonts for you10:48
Pr0phetiKI just installed Ubuntu 5.10 onto my box (Opteron 170, 2GB DDR, GeForce 7800GT, 2 IDE HDD, 2 DVD, NVRAID), and after the login screen, I get the blank brownish background with a scrambled white box.. does anyone know why?10:48
thoreauputicpurestrain: msttcorefonts is in multiverse10:48
thoreauputic!automatix10:48
ubotuautomatix is probably unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.10:48
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thoreauputicDO NOT recommend automatix!10:48
jadacyruswoops sorry10:48
thoreauputic!easyubuntu10:48
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu10:48
jadacyrusi dont use it anyway10:49
geniusvicksI want to setup a network between my laptop running Win XP and my UBUNTU desktop, how do I do that?10:49
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thoreauputic!samba10:50
ubotusamba is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html10:50
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thoreauputicgeniusvicks: read the URLs ubotu spat out above10:50
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Pr0phetiKThanks thoreauputic, I'll check it out..10:51
thoreauputic:) you're welcome10:51
Pr0phetiK:D10:51
Pr0phetiKI hope to get this up and running in a day or so :D10:51
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Pr0phetiKI just realized I haven't had any sleep in 4 days.. I should get some and do this later before I mess something up :D10:52
purestrainmultiverse... thanks, every page i visited told me about "universe"10:52
thoreauputic!tell purestrain about repos10:53
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Pr0phetiKAh, so thoreauputic, I should probably boot into the command line and unpack the things I need for my nVidia card..10:54
Pr0phetiKHmm.. this is making sense.. I think.10:54
thoreauputic!nvidia10:54
ubotu[nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736810:54
geniusvicksthoreauputic: those urls are about SAMBA10:55
jadacyruswow, easyubuntu installs your video drivers for you too..impressive.. wish i knew about that before i had to do it all myself10:56
thoreauputicgeniusvicks: erm - yes, networking between windows and linux10:56
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thoreauputicgeniusvicks: wasn't that what you asked?10:56
Pr0phetiKAh, I checked the first nVidia link already. I'd have to get into the desktop to do that method. I'm not able to load the desktop at all, or at least it's messed up/pixelated.10:56
Pr0phetiKYah, I'll have to check out easybuntu hehe10:56
BlackBishophow do I unload a module ?10:57
jadacyrusactually, theres this nifty install script for the latest nvidia driver i got from ubuntuforums that works like a charm10:57
thoreauputicBlackBishop: sudo rmmmod <module>10:57
BlackBishopthanks10:57
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stjepanI have kubuntu installed, but I want ubuntu (with gnome) so I installed ubuntu-desktop... now how to remove KDE? kubuntu-desktop is not installed! :-o11:00
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BlackBishopgrrr .. and how do I "delete" a module ?11:02
BlackBishopit keeps loading if I plug the dongle back11:02
thoreauputicstjepan: I guess uninstalling kdebase would pretty much do it ( but that's a guess)11:02
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thoreauputicBlackBishop: possibly put it in /etc/hotplug/blacklist11:04
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BlackBishopdon't have any hotplug ..11:05
thoreauputicBlackBishop: are you using breezy ?11:05
thoreauputicI have that file here on breezy11:05
BlackBishopI'm trying to make it work on another lappie11:05
geniusvicksthoreauputic: yes sorrry I thought samba was a linux distribution11:05
BlackBishopit uses fc11:05
BlackBishopI still didn't decide to move to ubuntu11:06
thoreauputicgeniusvicks: heh :)11:06
thoreauputicBlackBishop: then ask in #fedora11:06
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P3L|C4N0!xgl11:06
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/11:06
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thoreauputicheh, #fedora and #rhel have seen better days it seems11:08
thoreauputic#redhat used to be huge...11:09
BlackBishop:)11:09
stjepanthoreauputic: I removed libqt* and works11:09
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thoreauputicstjepan: yeah, that would do it ")11:09
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jordan82i'm in dire need of help.  i cannot get grub configured.  i'm lost on the subject11:13
C-O-L-TTomorrow ships out Ubuntu Dapper Drake RC1?11:13
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jordan82i'm on a live cd rite now11:14
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protocol1hello11:14
jordan82grub will load, but it boots into a grub console11:14
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thoreauputicprotocol1: hello11:14
thoreauputicprotocol1: you got it :)11:15
jordan82all of my proper devices are listed in the device file to11:15
protocol1thnaks again11:15
protocol1thanks*11:15
thoreauputic:)11:15
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thoreauputicprotocol1: you will want to set your password etc in your IRC clinet as well11:16
jordan82what happened was i installed dapperdrake flight 6 using the espresso installer11:16
thoreauputic*client11:16
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jordan82and it failed on the grub install, 3 seperate times11:16
jordan82i haven't been able to boot either windows or the completely installed linux yet11:17
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protocol1hello11:17
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thoreauputicprotocol1: yes you still exist11:17
jordan82so what can i do to manually configure grub?11:19
jordan82i've got it to the point where it loads the grub console on boot11:19
jordan82it tells me there's no kernel tho11:19
jordan82i'm lost11:19
gnomefreakjordan82: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst11:19
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jordan82gnomefreak: thanks!11:20
Pr0phetiKthoreauputic, quick question, how should I have my disk set up? Swap, and Root are the only needed types right?11:20
jordan82gnomefreak: i just have to create that file?11:21
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thoreauputicPr0phetiK: yes11:21
gnomefreakjordan82: no that file is there already thats the grub config file you wanted11:21
kfarrellWhich TV card easier to set up? MSI TV@nywhere, or DVico Fusion HDTV11:21
thoreauputicPr0phetiK: you can have forexample, a separate /home11:21
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thoreauputicPr0phetiK: but it isn't required11:21
Pr0phetiKHmm.. so talking to jadacyrus, it seems that gnome isn't being installed correctly. The system sorda stops on the splash screen right after login.. nothing loads from there, and the mouse is the only active thingy on the screen.11:22
Pr0phetiKAh I see11:22
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jordan82gnomefreak: that file wasn't there.  i'm looking for a guide on how to write it .  thankx11:23
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Pr0phetiKWell, it got to the GUI.. login screen.. right after login/authentication, it loads a white screen (presumably splash screen).. but the white screen has like jagged horizontal lines on it, and doesn't load properly. At this point nothing else loads.11:25
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jordan82gnomefreak:  how do i report to the people that want to know?  i know flight 6 is comin near an end tho, but the espresso install did do this whoel fiasco in the first place11:26
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thoreauputicPr0phetiK: see if you can login using the failsafe option, or do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop , then type startx (that /etc/init.d/gdm stop will drop you out of X suddenly - just a warning)11:27
gnomefreakjordan82: first off dapper support is in #ubuntu+1 second if grub is installed (i think it is) than that file should be there try it with ' like /sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst'11:27
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gnomefreakmake that 'sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst11:28
gnomefreak'11:28
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jordan82i'm on a live cd right now.  linux is installed to hda2.   i mounted the drive to /mnt/hda2,  so i use the command 'sudo nautilus' then explore to there11:30
jordan82and there's no file11:30
gnomefreakubotu tell jordan82 abotu grub11:30
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gnomefreakubotu tell jordan82 -about grub11:30
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JediMasterhi again all, silly question what's the difference between Install to the hard disk and install a server?11:35
JediMasteris server without X/gdm?11:35
cafuegopretty much, ues11:35
JediMasterright, thanks =)11:35
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ompaulJediMaster, and of course it being open you get to choose if you want to put that other part in later, no penalty for making a choice eariler on11:37
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JediMaster=) good11:38
JediMasterI was going to install debian testing on my machine at work (new job, had to get rid of windows desktop, luckily the servers run debian), but someone suggested ubuntu, so I thought I'd give it a go =)11:38
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ompaulJediMaster, to make your life easier to /msg ubotu root just to get the logic of the sudo command as used in ubuntu - you just don't need root to be set up, if you do expert there is a bug that forces you do setup root, however that can be sorted with reference to that page11:41
ompaulJediMaster,  this is not the root you were looking for11:41
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jordan82okay i'm about to reboot.  wish me luck.  i'll be coming back in 10-15 if it dont work haha11:42
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croesuspropper procedure for installing jre for ubuntu?  Is it an apt cli?  I can't find it with synaptic...11:43
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GatoLokohi11:43
noiesmo!tell croesus about jre11:43
noiesmo!tell croesus about java11:44
JediMasterompaul: =)11:46
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JediMasterompaul: how do you think it will cope with having a second graphics card added to the machine (will be later today, but I'm too impatient to wait for it to come), will I have to manually configure X (not a problem, just takes a bit)?11:47
whiteguysamuraiwould they consider including xgl in the next release?11:47
whiteguysamuraii think it's pretty nifty looking11:48
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ompaulwhiteguysamurai, not in its current incantation - its well borked11:48
whiteguysamuraixlg in general?11:48
ompaulJediMaster, there are some notes on wiki.ubuntu.com hang about11:48
=== noiesmo thinks xgl to much trouble for newbies to be standard just yet
whiteguysamuraiyeah, and i happen to be one of those noobs.11:49
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JediMasterompaul: thanks, am I right in thinking the normal install won't set a root password?11:49
whiteguysamuraihowever, if it's avilable in the package manager in the future, that would make me most happy.11:49
ompaulJediMaster, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=dual+monitors&fullsearch=Text this is the way of the search :)11:50
JediMasterjust used to being asked for root and a normal user's password by debian...11:50
JediMasterlol, thanks11:50
noiesmowhiteguysamurai, move to dapper and it is but being bleeding edge other things can break11:50
whiteguysamuraiok, makes sese.11:50
whiteguysamuraisense*11:51
ompaulJediMaster, you are correct that is why I sent that instruction, it is disabled by default and we generally find that sudo is your friend sudo command and bang and you never need sudo for cd etc11:51
Doati get "Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file." every time i try to run something from the menu that needs the root password. they work when run in the console though. how can i fix this?11:51
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ompaulDoat, sudo command or gksudo - yuou seem to have altered the machine if your not getting gksudo kicking off when you try to run some commands11:52
Doatwell i just installed ubuntu and the menu worked in the beginning11:52
whiteguysamuraii wonder something, would madwifi be better then using ndiswrapper for my atheros wireless?11:53
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Doatanyway, what should i do?11:53
whiteguysamuraifor some reason, i can never get it working properly11:53
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ompaulDoat, have you used some *helper* software to bring great brokenness to your machine?11:54
Doat*helper* software??11:54
Doati installed sleuthkit + autopsy11:54
ompaulDoat, this is not the default behaviour of ubuntu, the menus don't stop working for some reason, and root is not enabled by default11:54
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Doatroot is not enabled. it's just the menu11:55
Doatsleuthkit and autopsy are pretty much the only thing i have installed besides the default packages11:56
ompaulDoat, your menus are not working when you require superuser access ... have not come across this before11:56
Doatoh11:56
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ompaulDoat, how where they installed from packages or source or something else?11:56
Doatwell for example synpatic asks for a password first and then gives the xauthorization error11:56
GatoLokoi've seen that in the candidates list is freepascal and somebody was going to try but it has been months without change, and there is nothing in revu so i'm going to try. is preferable to do it for breezy or for dapper?11:57
Doatwith synpatic11:57
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ompaulDoat, and your using your own password for that transaction?11:57
Doatalso i can't install anything anymore. it says disk is full even though i have a 10G partition and have only default stuff and sleuthkit here. maybe sleuthkit fucked things up someway11:58
Doatyes11:58
ompaulDoat, we don't curse in this channel, we find it works better :-)11:58
Doatoh, sorry11:58
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ompaulDoat, the joys of installing software from outside your repos - fire up a terminal and type df in it does it say your hard drive is full?11:59
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Doatyes :/12:01
Doati think sleuthkit brought loads of stuff from my windows partitions12:01
ompaulDoat, I have to do a job but before I go I want to test something with you do this, click on the system menu go to administriation down to synaptic and right click on it, top choice is "add this launcher to panel" do it it may work12:01
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=== gnomefreak never seen this before i gotta see this
Doatdon't work12:02
Doatit just put a ?-icon on the panel which doesn't work12:02
gnomefreakgood try though ompaul12:03
gnomefreakDoat: i would get rid of sluethkit asap12:03
ompaulDoat, now right click on the icon and choose properties thell me what does it say for command line?12:03
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gnomefreaklol12:04
Doatits blank :)12:04
Doat"Unnamed"12:05
Doaton the name field that is12:05
gnomefreakDoat: try putting gksudo synaptic int he command part? (check with ompaul first please)12:05
seliniumDoat what is sluethkit?12:05
ompaulsleuthkit: Candidate: 2.00-2 : http://*.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages12:05
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ompaulDoat, there is a version for ubuntu out there12:05
Doatsleuthkit for ubuntu?12:06
seliniumDoat what part of sleuthkit are you after?12:06
ompaulDoat, okay something has really broken your menu for whatever reason12:06
gnomefreakDoat: yes its in universe repo12:06
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Doati installed sleuthkit with synaptic. shouldn't it automatically get the right version?12:07
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ompaulDoat, okay, I missunderstood what your phrasing was, I took it as you had taken it from some random outside source :-)12:08
Doatits a tool to view partitions and stuff, i'm not even sure what else :) i tried to recover some files from my formated ntfs partition12:08
seliniumgnomefreak, I thought it might of been a wapstumbler type of thing... but it isn't!12:08
Doatnope, i used synpatic12:08
ompaulDoat, that is most likely what is filling up your hard drive12:08
ompaulDoat, how big is the ntfs drive?12:08
Doat10G12:09
Doatbut i also did something with a 160G partition :)12:09
seliniumDoat: clear out you temp files/folders12:09
ompaulDoat, your in for a big clear out :-)12:09
Doatmaybe i should just remove sleuthkit and autopsy to start with?12:09
seliniumGood start12:09
binaare there any Audio apps that support DRM in WMAs in linux?12:10
gnomefreak!wma12:10
uboturestricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats12:10
gnomefreakbina: ^^^12:10
ompaulno you should find where it has dumped all its data, most likely in /home/username/somewhere if you can't remember it12:10
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binagnomefreak: thanks12:10
gnomefreakbina: your welsome12:10
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ompaulbina, if you insist on using drm formatted materials you will find yourself in a less free situation, to be honest you survived without them before you could continue to do so, thus rejecting a lockin that some people think is the way to go, those who would restrict your choice do not know what they are doing, see DRM with Sony October last year and EMI DRM in Brazil this year, it is not something you can trust - ever- (sorry about the rant but I th12:13
ompaulought you should know)12:13
binasilly DRM12:13
ompaulthat is putting it very politely12:13
binaompaul: yeah12:14
binaompaul: i just wanted to get a massive attack track without having to buy the whole album12:14
thoreauputicfortunately most of the DRM protected stuff is such rubbish I have no use for it anyway....12:14
ompaulbina, reject the band and tell them why that might help things12:14
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ompaulbina, nothing hurts more than actual customer rejection12:15
binaompaul: I really hate stuff like this. Those CDs that mess up your comp when you put them in.  I had to get a paperclip n manually eject the drawer once. evil12:15
ArsonideHey has Ubuntu evolved since Hoary, that's what I tried last.12:15
ompaulbina, so why participate in their little game12:15
thoreauputicArsonide: no, the devs have been on long vacation since Hoary12:16
thoreauputic;-)12:16
ompaulArsonide, quite a lot, one release done and another almost ready12:16
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ArsonideThere a major changelist?12:18
ArsonideI can read12:18
ompaulits not the distro you saw before12:18
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JediMasterok, I can report a very smooth very nice install of dapper flight 6, the only thing that went wrong was that it didn't start up the network interface properly on first boot, ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 seems to have fixed it though12:19
ompaul!dapper12:19
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)12:19
ArsonideI hope it's not the distro I saw before.12:19
ArsonideHoary didn't detect my monitor, I spent 3 hours trying to get the refresh rate to 85. :P12:19
Arsonide3 hours of eye bleeding 60 hz12:19
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ompaul!resolution12:20
uboturesolution is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:20
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ompaulArsonide, and with that I leave you - places to be things to do12:20
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JediMasterompaul: didn't realise there was a separate channel =)12:21
Arsonide!changelog12:21
ubotuArsonide: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:21
Arsonidek12:21
Arsonide:P12:21
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Arsonide!changes12:21
ubotuArsonide: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:21
ArsonideFind I'll just find the main site.12:22
ArsonideFine*12:22
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thomasg_Which wlan-card (pci) can I use with Ubuntu?12:28
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gnomefreakubotut ell thomasg_ about hardware12:28
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gnomefreakubotu tell thomasg_ about hardware12:29
thomasg_Thank you12:29
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Doatokay the menu works after removing sleuthkit and autopsy and i found the autopsy folder containing 7G of something12:33
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Nameeateris a .tgz file an archive or an install format?12:40
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gnomefreakNameeater: its an archive file (sotr of like a zip) but installed nowhere near like a zip :(12:40
gnomefreakubotu tell Nameeater -about tar12:41
Nameeateris it like a tar.gz file?12:41
gnomefreakubotu: tell Nameeater -about compile12:41
gnomefreakNameeater: same file12:41
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Nameeateroh ok, thanks for that :)12:41
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|lostbyte|Is there a way to copy a file off a cd and let it skip errors ?12:43
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sfarwhere can i see how much ram i got installed?12:45
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nirmal2coolissue the command free12:46
nirmal2coolsfar12:46
sfarokay12:46
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hyphenatedor cat /proc/meminfo12:46
gnomefreak|lostbyte|: you can try man cp but its not something ive heard of12:46
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sfaryay, it worked12:47
sfar:)12:47
BlueEagle|lostbyte|: man dd12:48
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Frogzoo|lostbyte|: if you're desperate, use dd to copy the entire cd, (dd has option to skip errors) then mount the iso image on a loopback12:48
BlueEagle|lostbyte|: might work.12:48
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|lostbyte|BlueDevil: FrdPrefct: which option am i looking at here ?12:50
mlopeshi. what's the equivelent to XFree's xf86config in xorg? I know it's bundled in Ubuntu12:51
CraiZEfor those who want to see the dapper beta (new icons and such) : http://www.project-scar.com/CraiZE/Pics/XGL/Screenshot-Dapper-Beta.png12:51
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|lostbyte|ohh // .. i think its noerror..12:52
hyphenatedmlopes: you're probably better off using 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'12:52
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mlopesI found it to not always work as intended12:53
hyphenatedmlopes: it works fine for 99% of people. it sucks to be in that 1% where it doesn't work fine12:54
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mlopeshyphenated, indeed12:54
mlopesbut unfortunately I was part of the minority :-)12:54
hyphenatedmlopes: I can't find ubuntu's equivalent to xf86config with a cursory apt-cache search attempt12:54
mlopesI did the same12:54
hyphenatedwhat's it done wrong anyway?12:55
mlopesbut I know I used one while installing ATi X800 on an ubuntu machine12:55
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mlopesthis is not for me, is for a friend who's not being able to detect the Screen12:55
mlopesI had already suggested dpkg-reconfigure12:55
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hyphenatedand he doesn't even get a useable but non-accellerated screen?12:55
mlopesbut still, I'd like to provide him with a plan B :-)12:55
Frogzoohyphenated: /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:56
Apostle^he could try the vesa driver12:56
mlopesxorg does not even start probably because xorg.config is incorrecty configured12:56
mlopeshe has quite a strange laptop12:56
mlopesELITEGROUP GREEN550 in case anyone knows it12:56
Frogzoomlopes: it's 'xorg.conf' btw12:56
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hyphenatedFrogzoo: nono, xf86config is a binary, not a config file12:56
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mlopesFrogzoo, typo12:57
Frogzoohyphenated: oic, then 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'12:57
hyphenatedFrogzoo: yah, suggested that already ;-)12:57
Frogzook, just ignore me :D12:57
hyphenatedmlopes: sounds like a pretty ugly laptop ;-)12:57
mlopes:p12:57
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ubu_newI have the same problem12:58
ubu_newafter loading screen write - non supported12:59
ubu_newand after black screen12:59
ubu_newwhere to write  'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?12:59
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Apostle^ubu_new: in terminal01:00
C-O-L-TTomorrow ships ubuntu rc 1 out?01:00
Apostle^rc1 ?01:00
ubu_newApostle^, how to load the terminal01:00
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ubu_newI have black screen now01:00
Apostle^ctrl+alt+f201:00
ubu_newto do restart and press it during the load?01:01
Apostle^you can do it when the pc's on01:01
Apostle^to get a term01:01
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ubu_newI did restart and trying but still no terminal01:02
ubu_newah01:02
ubu_newnow there is :)01:02
ubu_newdebian:login:01:02
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C-O-L-TTomorrow ships Ubuntu Release Candidate 1 out?01:03
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ubu_newI reciving few lines and the last one is /user/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root01:04
ajmitchC-O-L-T: no, beta release. RC is due in late may01:04
ubu_newand in the 2nt line- perl: wornning: Setting locale failed01:04
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ubu_newApostle^, I am on the right way?01:05
PuMpErNiCkElubu_new: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', not just 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'01:05
C-O-L-Tajmitch: what is the beta release?01:05
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FrogzooC-O-L-T: dapper01:06
ubu_newPuMpErNiCkEl, thanks01:06
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PuMpErNiCkElubu_new: np :)01:06
C-O-L-Tajmitch: there will be no flight 7? just beta's?01:06
C-O-L-Tor how01:06
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FrogzooC-O-L-T: flight # are betas for dapper01:06
gnomefreakC-O-L-T: after alpha flight 6 comes beta than comes rc01:06
ubu_newPuMpErNiCkEl, lots of lines running01:07
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: thanks guys I understand now01:07
gnomefreakFrogzoo: flaights are alphas not betas (to get technical)01:07
ubu_newand 2 before last - Package 'xserver-xorg' is not installed and no info is available01:07
C-O-L-TWhat do you think how stable will be teh Beta because I would like to install but once I tried flight 3 but crashed a few times01:07
C-O-L-T:)01:07
PuMpErNiCkElubu_new: Did you do a server install?01:08
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FrogzooC-O-L-T: you won't get any guarantees running a beta - stuff can happen01:08
ubu_newI did the normal installation01:08
ubu_newI think desktop01:08
gnomefreakC-O-L-T: beta can still break but all the major bugs should be fixed01:08
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ubu_newhow it is possible to check what I did?01:08
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FrogzooC-O-L-T: Dapper releases in 6 weeks, so make your own judgement01:09
gnomefreakubu_new: are you on an all black screenw ith white font?01:09
ubu_newyes01:09
ubu_newgnomefreak, it is still the trminal01:09
ubu_newterminal01:09
ubu_newFrogzoo, dapper will know my screen?01:09
gnomefreakubu_new: the black screen fills up the full screen?01:09
C-O-L-TFrogzoo: I see, I think I will give a shot to the Beta LIVE CD01:09
PuMpErNiCkElubu_new: Sounds more like a server install than a desktop one.01:10
ubu_newgnomefreak, not sure what you mean01:10
gnomefreakubu_new: if you type apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop does it say installed?01:10
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FrogzooC-O-L-T: good call01:11
ubu_newgnomefreak, ubuntu-desktop: installed: 0.3 candidate: 0.3 version table *** 0.3.001:11
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ubu_newis it ok?01:12
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gnomefreakubu_new: try typong startx what do you get?01:12
ubu_newall screen with lines and01:13
ubu_newfatel server error: server is already active for desplay 001:13
b0sehello... i am trying to compile a vanilla kernel with iptables support -- the guide i am following says to enable "IP: fast network address translation" and "IP: use TOS value as routing key", but i couldn't find either of these options....   will iptables still work without these options?01:13
ubu_newxlib: connetion to ":0.0" refused by server01:13
ubu_newxlit: invalid MIT-Magic-cookie key01:13
ubu_newgiving up01:13
gnomefreakubu_new: type sudo reboot and let it reboot your pc than when you get back here lets see if it starts01:14
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ubu_newgnomefreak, it is doing reboot01:14
ubu_newto do something during the reboot?01:14
gnomefreakubu_new: no but i would like to know why its not starting x01:14
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ubu_newall things loading now01:15
ubu_newtext is ruuning on screen01:15
gnomefreakubu_new: what video card is in it?01:15
ubu_newnot sure01:15
ubu_newand again none supported01:15
gnomefreakubu_new: back to tty?01:15
ubu_newstill black screen01:16
gnomefreaktty= full text screen01:16
ubu_newok :)01:16
ubu_newstill black01:16
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kevorHi, when upgrading to dapper from breezy i run into this problem: www.kev0r.nl/error01:17
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gnomefreakubu_new: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and let it find everything automaticlly and when it gives you a list of drivers choose vesa and that restart x after you gone through all of the prompts you should than get a gui log in but it will need to be cahnged more than likely but its a start01:18
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ubu_newgnomefreak, thanks but I did this few times and it is not finding the package01:19
hyphenatedkevor: you probably want to talk to the guys in #ubuntu+101:19
ubu_newand now the tt1 is not working :(01:19
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kevorhyphenated: they don't know, besides i'm not yet on ubuntu+1, more like ubuntu+0..101:19
ubu_newI have only black screen01:19
gnomefreakubu_new: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop01:20
kevor0.5*01:20
hyphenatedkevor: well, it's a dapper problem, not a breezy one ;-) put your sources.list in a pastebin anyway01:20
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gnomefreakubu_new: let me know if its gonna install anything01:21
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ubu_newgnomefreak, for now I can not go back to the terminal01:21
kevorhyphenated: i think it's solved01:21
kevorthank you01:21
ubu_newthere is only black screen01:21
heikoi have suspended my ubuntu notebook using that "suspend to disk" thing in the gnome shutdown menu - and now booting leads to different kinds of problem (segfault, hanging), depending on which kernel i use.01:22
heikoany ideas what i could try? (all kernels in grub lead to various hangs)01:22
gnomefreakubu_new: yes black screen with white font? or just black screen?01:22
ubu_newjust black screen01:22
ubu_newwith no option to write anything01:22
hyphenatedkevor: ok. if the solution didn't come from someone in #ubuntu+1, it might be worth mentioning what fixed it in that channel01:22
ubu_newand I get it after it loading everything and write non supported01:22
kevorhyphenated: it did come from that channel :) i was being stuborn in my usage of apt-get (aptitude fixxed it)01:23
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ubu_newhow it is possible to go to the tremnial during the loading?01:23
hyphenatedkevor: haha sweet. have fun with it :-)01:23
gnomefreakubu_new: does hitting ctrl+alt+F1 or F2 or F3 give you a login prompt?01:23
kevorhyphenated: hope i will :)01:23
ubu_newgook01:24
ubu_newok01:24
ubu_newI don't know how but I am on the terminal again01:24
ubu_newso to write  sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop?01:24
gnomefreakubu_new: did you use the keys i told you to?01:24
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gnomefreakubu_new: yes01:24
ubu_newyes01:25
gnomefreakyou can toggle between 6 ttys01:25
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ubu_newbut not sure which one of them did the job01:25
gnomefreakF1-F6 iirc01:25
beta_mwhat do i use as p2p downloader, something that connects to both gnutella and edonkey networks?01:25
beta_mwill xmule do?01:25
gnomefreakubu_new: default i think is F2 so it was eitehr F1 or F3 to find out what one yoiu started on use ctrl+alt+F1 or F2 or F3 and look for your screen you have01:26
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gnomefreakhad01:26
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gnomefreakubu_new: is it installing anything?01:26
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DarkEDhi01:26
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DarkEDi am having a problem with my dependencies i think01:26
DarkEDi am trying to install a package and i get this01:27
lwelynI have to screens and a ati card here. how i make both screens on one ati card work ?01:27
ubu_newgnomefreak, It did the installation good01:27
DarkEDW: Encountered status field in a non-version description01:27
DarkEDor this01:27
gnomefreakubu_new: after its done please reboot01:27
ubu_newgnomefreak, initializing package states... Done01:27
ubu_newok01:27
DarkEDdpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 15921 package `kdemultimedia':01:27
DarkED missing version01:27
DarkEDE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)01:27
gnomefreakif it installs anything01:27
gnomefreakDarkED: do not paste in here01:27
DarkEDthis happens with every package i've tried01:27
gnomefreakuse pastebin01:27
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gnomefreakDarkED: that looks like it could be  astray mark it cant read but that i cant tell you for sure01:28
ubu_newgnomefreak, back to the none supported screen and later black screen01:29
ubu_newand now terminal01:29
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lwelynso nobody can help me with this ?01:30
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ubu_newgnomefreak, so now to write sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?01:30
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bigfoot1how can i make a screenshot include my mouse pointer?01:31
loolhi there, is it safe to create Debian kernel packages with make-kpkg under Debian and install them on Ubuntu?01:31
loolfor some reason, dapper's make-kpkg seems to be a bit old in comparison with sid's01:31
gnomefreakubu_new: yes try it let me know if you get it or not01:32
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gnomefreakbigfoot1: thats a very very good question01:32
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bigfoot1gnomefreak: but if there's no way, i guess i could just add paste a mouse icon into the image file.01:32
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ubu_newgnomefreak, not installed :-(01:33
gnomefreakbigfoot1: truthfully I think that is the way to go with it but if you want to wait a while someone might come in that knows for sure01:33
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gnomefreakubu_new: can you use pastebin and paste the output of lspci please01:34
bigfoot1gnomefreak: ok01:34
ubu_newgnomefreak, same messege - package- xserver-xorg' is not...01:34
ubu_newgnomefreak, it is with computer not connected to the internet yes01:34
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gnomefreakubu_new: you dont need to be connected to run  that command01:35
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ubu_newgnomefreak, so I am not sure what you mean by pastebin01:35
gnomefreakoh wait damn nm you need net to use pastebin01:35
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ubu_newwhy it can not find this package?01:36
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ubu_newis it possibl to copy it from the disk?01:36
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ubu_newpossible01:37
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gnomefreakubu_new: if you were to do that i think stating over from scratch might be an idea i have this feeling something during install got screwed up01:37
ubu_newI don't mind to do that01:37
gnomefreakdid you get any errors during install?01:37
ubu_newno01:37
ubu_newnothing01:37
ubu_newI read that I need to install with expert mode in order to set up the screen01:38
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ubu_newis that right?01:38
gnomefreakubu_new: ok i hate to say this but i would try install again (xorg might have gotten sorrupted or something)01:38
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ubu_newok01:38
ubu_newgnomefreak, np01:38
gnomefreakubu_new: its a choice but not sure if that will help either01:39
ubu_newgnomefreak, so what to do in the installation that will change the mode setting?01:39
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gnomefreakubu_new: if you do try expert mode please write down the video card info from lspci01:39
ubu_newwhat is lspci01:39
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ubu_newand where in the expert mode I change the screen settings?01:39
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gnomefreakubu_new: its a command that shows you info about your hardware (some of it)01:40
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gnomefreakubu_new: i neer done expert mode01:40
gnomefreaknever*01:40
ubu_newok :)01:40
DarkEDhey gnomefreak01:40
ubu_newI will try it now01:40
gnomefreakDarkED: ?01:40
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DarkEDhow would I go about switching my status with my statusold in /var/lib/dpkg/?01:41
ubu_newgnomefreak, or to do other insatallion?01:41
DarkEDit tried to edit them but it gives access denied, i tried sudo kate and the same :D01:41
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WK|Dutchyis there an msn client here on linux which can show the 'comments'? (i believe those were added in msn 7)01:41
ubu_newwhat you think is better?01:41
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HobbseeWK|Dutchy: they show up in kopete, probably in gaim as well01:41
WK|DutchyI dont see em in gaim01:41
gnomefreakubu_new: try default install first (my personal opinion)01:42
DarkEDDutchy: Use koptet01:42
WK|Dutchybut ill try kopete then01:42
gnomefreakDarkED: dont know sorry01:42
ubu_newok01:42
DarkEDok thanks01:42
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DarkEDkopete* even01:42
ubu_newso I am doing the defual now01:42
gnomefreakubu_new: yeah when the first screen comes up just hit enter01:43
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ubu_newit is already doing the pertition01:43
WK|Dutchyhmmm wait naturally that k means kde :>01:43
bliss1_hi folks01:43
gnomefreakgm bliss1_01:44
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WK|Dutchyill go try some others then :|01:44
bliss1_gnomefreak: yep its a good one01:44
gnomefreakgood to hear01:44
ubu_newgnomefreak, you think it will solve the problem?01:44
gnomefreakubu_new: i wish i could say yes to that for sure ubu_new but your problem is not one ive ever run into01:45
bliss1_Frogzoo: got 0.8.0 installed ok01:45
gnomefreakubu_new: how big of a partition is ubuntu going onto?01:45
ubu_newgnomefreak, not sure now it is already after...01:46
gnomefreakis it only ps on that hd?01:46
gnomefreakos*01:46
ubu_newyes01:46
ubu_newclean and new01:46
gnomefreakubu_new: 10 gig 20 gig?01:46
ubu_new8001:46
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gnomefreakoh01:46
gnomefreakhmmmmmmm01:46
ubu_newsorry01:46
gnomefreakubu_new: its all good01:46
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ubu_newI just need to find the screeen01:47
ubu_newscreen :)01:47
shinuinsmod: error inserting 'vloopback.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module <== anyone might know why i am getting this?01:47
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DarkEDgnomefreak, i want to tell you i fixed my problem and escaped from dependency hell01:50
DarkEDincase you ever need to fix a dependency problem01:51
slougihi all, if I want to request a package to be updated, how does that happen?01:51
DarkEDlogin as root and go to /var/lib/dpkg/ and delete 'status' and replace it with 'status-old'01:51
DarkEDthen all will be well if you reinstall the package it complains about01:51
Kamping_Kaiserslougi, what package?01:51
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Kamping_Kaiserif its in universe you might want to join -motu and ask them01:52
slougiKamping_Kaiser: mercurial. It's currently at 0.7 in universe, but is up to 0.801:52
slougi-motu?01:52
Kamping_Kaiseranyone know how to convert a primary partition to an extended partition01:52
Kamping_Kaiser?01:52
Kamping_Kaiserslougi, ubuntu-motu, where the universe team hang out01:52
DarkEDkaiser: yes, boot into windows, and download partition magic01:52
Kamping_Kaiserthey would know how to ask ;)01:52
slougiright, thanks01:52
DarkEDthats the only good way i know of doing it01:53
slougi:)01:53
Kamping_KaiserDarkED, in the absence of windows thats not verey helpfull01:53
DarkEDI understand, and I'm sorry...01:53
Kamping_Kaiserotherwise i woulod have dont it already ;)01:53
DarkEDbut thats what I had to do01:53
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shinuKamping_Kaiser: gparted?01:53
loolKamping_Kaiser: you can temper your partition table, use some low level formatting tool such as fdisk or cfdisk and delete the primary partition, create an extended partition on the same boundaries01:53
Kamping_Kaisershinu, doesnt seem to do it01:53
gnomefreakKamping_Kaiser: what about qtparted or gparted?01:53
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Kamping_Kaiserlool, i *just* recovered this partition, i cant bring myself to delete it :S01:54
gnomefreaklol01:54
munti78What is the command to rename a directory in Terminal?01:54
_jasonmunti78: mv oldname newname01:54
Kamping_Kaisermv01:54
shinumunti78: mv01:54
loolKamping_Kaiser: well deleting it doesn't mean the data it holds is away, deleting the partition just mean removing the entry from the partition table01:54
loolKamping_Kaiser: high-level tools would do exactly the same thing01:54
_jasonubu_new: tell munti78 about cli01:55
_jasonubotu: tell munti78 about cli01:55
munti78Great, thanks!01:55
loolKamping_Kaiser: the safe way is to dd eg /dev/hda2 to an external hard disk, delete the partition, create a new one and dd the content into it01:55
Kamping_Kaiserlool, yeh, i might backup and try again01:55
loolbut that requires an external disk01:56
Kamping_Kaiseri have one handy ;)01:56
Kamping_Kaiseri borrowed one from work fo rthe purpose01:56
Kamping_Kaiserok, thanks people. i'll have a go then01:56
gnomefreakgoods luck Kamping_Kaiser01:56
bliss1_Frogzoo: are you in bed01:57
Kamping_Kaiserta GnarlyBob01:57
Kamping_Kaiser* gnomefreak01:57
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bliss1_gnomefreak: i think i have my own channel how do i access it02:00
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Hobbseemmm...another netsplit?02:02
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bliss1_any one got a script to start kqemu please02:02
bimberi!kqemu02:03
bimberi!+kqemu02:03
ubotukqemu is, like, totally, a *closed-source* kernel module for speeding up the QEMU virtual machine. To install on breezy, run the insQEMU.sh script available from http://oui.com.br/n/content.php?article.23 More complete install instructions can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KQEmu . See also !qvm8602:03
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bliss1_ubotu ye i know but not the script02:04
ubotubliss1_: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:04
gnomefreakbliss1_: /j #yourchannelname02:04
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duveitto be blunt, is there any good CD emulation software for ubuntu, like for instance Daemon for windows?02:04
bliss1_gnomefreak thanks02:04
gnomefreakbliss1_: if you didnt register your channel it was closed02:04
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shinuwhy dont i have /dev/video* ?02:05
bliss1_gnomefreak o ok  no just my nick and password02:05
Kamping_Kaiserduveit, mount?02:05
shinuduveit: mount with -o loop02:06
tonyyarussoduveit: What do you mean?02:06
duveitKamping_Kaiser, I just say mount iso?02:06
duveitanyway, I get the idea, and it seem like the obvious solution of course02:06
tonyyarussoduveit: It's some options in mount, involves a -o I think, not sure what else, but yeah.02:06
shinuduveit: mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/iso /mount/point02:07
Kamping_Kaiserduveit, `sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /heres/the/iso /heres/the/mount/point`02:07
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gnomefreakmount --help or man mount should tell you what flags to use for what options02:07
duveitok, thanks :), just installing apache here, and I needed the cd, which I cant find, so I figured eulating the cd would be easiest02:08
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duveit*emulating (my 'm' key keeps getting stuck )02:08
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shinuhow do i check package info with ubotu?02:10
tonyyarusso!info coreutils02:10
ubotucoreutils: (The GNU core utilities), section base, is required. Version: 5.2.1-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1028 kB, Installed size: 7536 kB02:10
tonyyarussoshinu: Like that.02:10
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tonyyarussoshinu: Or, more preferably, /msg ubotu info packagename02:11
shinuokay02:11
shinuthanks02:11
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DBOso identify is not spelled indentify... makes talking in here hard if you mess that up... that is all02:12
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waylandbillI can access a windows share fine with smbclient. If I try to mount the share though, i get a mount_data version is not supported error. Anyone know what this is all about?02:12
shinuanyone know about a ivtv package?02:12
DBOshinu, yo, what you need?02:12
gnomefreakbbl need to find passport :(02:13
shinuDBO: well, i dont have /dev/video* and i think ivtv solves the problem02:13
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bliss1_DBO: must get a packet or a trash can full of that coffee your on02:13
DBOshinu, yes that would if you have a tv card02:13
DBOshinu, have you a question?02:14
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waylandbillperhaps I need to specify the workgroup?02:15
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shinuDBO: oh i see.. thanks02:16
DBObrb02:17
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bimberiwaylandbill: do you have smbfs installed?02:20
aryehhi02:20
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waylandbillbimberi: omg. no I don't02:21
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waldenheya02:21
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waylandbillthat explains it.02:21
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bimberiwaylandbill: it shouldn't let you try to mount it and is a known issue - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/3152302:21
aryehHi, Where can I get help on installing Ubuntu?02:22
waldenhere, i guess.02:22
waldenyou ask and get help. atleast that's what i did when i installed :D02:22
waylandbillbimberi: yeah. a slightly more descriptive error would've made it easy02:22
aryehThank you, wlden02:22
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waldenHow often does the artwork on Dapper get updated?02:25
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waldenCos, each time I have upgrated, i've got new stuff02:26
aryehI am very frustrated.  After trying five times to install Linux with mandrake and failing, I have just installed Ubuntu *TWICE*02:26
waldenand what happened?02:26
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tonyyarussoaryeh: Can you explain further?02:29
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Croperzaryeh: wouldn't that be satisfying rather than frustrating?02:31
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aryehafter logging into UBUNTU, I get a message "There are 39 updates available".   I ckick and NOTHING happens.  I try <<System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager>> It used to prompt me for a password and do nothing.  Now it doesn't even bother to prompt me for a password, it IGNORES me.  Any advice?02:31
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waldenHm.02:32
tonyyarussoaryeh: Probably a busted gksudo.02:32
Tomcat__aryeh: Try "sudo apt-get upgrade" in a console02:32
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tonyyarussoaryeh: Which installation option did you use?02:32
waldenOpen a terminal and type sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade02:32
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_jasonaryeh: if the above doesn't work, paste the output of the 'groups' command02:33
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waylandbillI've seen that happen many times. Usually if I reboot, all is well. A command prompt apt-get usually works though.02:33
tonyyarussowalden: You need the sudo in front of both, I believe.02:33
phrowzenanyone know why apt-get upgrade is skipping 'udev'?02:33
Tomcat__phrowzen: "skipping"?02:33
waldentonyyarusso: okie.. i've never done it that way though :)02:34
phrowzenBuilding dependency tree... Done -- The following packages have been kept back:--  udev -- 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.02:34
aryehFor my second installation I chose "expert".  After the "recommended" installation I did not have these problems but for a day and a half I failed to find any IDE that would compile a simple C++ program.02:34
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waylandbillI think it was my clock's skew causing gksudo to return a timestamp to far in future though.02:34
waldeni apt-get update and apt-get upgrade02:34
tonyyarussowalden: Really?  I could be wrong.  Not sure how sudo takes its arguments.02:34
waldenaryeh: just do the recommended install. then apt-get install build-essential anjuta02:35
bliss1_hi02:35
tonyyarussoaryeh: Aaah.02:35
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tonyyarusso!expert02:35
ubotuNo working sudo after expert install? as root: addgroup --system admin; echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers && adduser your_normal_username admin02:35
aryehHow about re-installing not as expert and then asking you to help me compile a C++ "Hello, world!" program?02:35
waldentonyyarusso: no.. you are correct. you have to issue sudo twice. was saying that i had not done the double command with one sudo myself02:35
tonyyarussowalden: Oh, gotcha.02:35
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waldenaryeh: ok :) do what tonyyarusso said about expert up there.02:36
bliss1_maybe this is a silly question but i mount hda2 where is the wastebasket to be found02:36
waldenaryeh: then install build-essential and anjuta(which is an IDE)02:36
Tomcat__blindx: <mountpoint>/.Trash02:36
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Tomcat__blindx: Or maybe <mountpoint>/.Trash-<username>, not sure.02:36
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bliss1_Tomcat ok thanks in .Trash02:37
waylandbillan IDE might be slight overkill for compiling a simple Hello, World.02:37
Plitskinuhmm... Hi, I need a little help regarding my touchpad02:37
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walden:] 02:37
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waylandbillOTOH, any experience with it helps when you get to the big projects.02:38
PlitskinI need to disable a feature on my touchpad which is tapping on the touchpad which is similar to clicking the left button mouse... How can I do this?02:38
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waylandbillPlitskin: on a laptop? isn't that so annoying?02:39
waldenwhat sort of mouse is this? thinkpad?02:39
waldenor synaptics?02:39
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waldenyou can do all that by adding stuff to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:39
tonyyarussoThinkpads use a Synaptics touchpad...02:40
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waldenapt-get install tpconfig02:41
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waldenPlitskin: http://chunghau.tripod.com/mandrake-laptop.html maybe that will work for you.02:42
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Plitskinsorry, I'm using a synaptics touchpad...02:42
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Plitskinwalden: thanks for the link, I'll go check it out...02:42
imc1Need to migrate firefox setings (passwords, cookies, form data, bookmarks) from one machine to another, is it just copying the .mozilla folder to my ~ ?02:42
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waldenyeah. that's info for synaptics touchpad. goto the link. install tpconfig02:43
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_jasonimc1: you could probably just do ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default , but the whole folder would work too02:43
Jemtimc1: Yep02:43
imc1Thanks _jason and Jemt02:44
Jemt^^02:44
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aryehThank you walden --  sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade is working02:44
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waldenumm. do sudo apt-get update then do sudo apt-get upgrade02:45
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aryeh(after I realized there was no space between "apt" and "-get".02:45
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waldenheh, ok. it is better to do it in 2 steps anyway.02:46
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waldenor try usiing your Synaptics and see if it works fine now.02:46
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aryehThank everybody else that gave me their advice!02:46
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phatmonkeywhat is the best DTP package around? the hardest part of the conversion for most people I know is saying goodbye to MS publisher!02:48
arrickMorning everyone, how are we today?02:49
_jasonarrick: morning02:49
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arrickhey is there anyone around that has "tweaked" the default server install?02:49
SirKillalothow can I make my system automaticly dump the memory on a segmention fault?02:50
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fyrestrtrwow, vista really looks nice :D02:51
fyrestrtrphatmonkey: microsoft publisher?! they still make that?02:51
Doatit *looks* nice02:51
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donzasure it does.. thats only way they can sell it02:51
Doatthat's where the nice things end i'm guessing02:51
fyrestrtrc'mon now -- it also has some nice features -- I just got the latest beta from MS to test out.02:51
phatmonkeyyep, and people still use it sadly :P02:51
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fyrestrtrfor example -- hella-improved firewall.02:52
donzai heard that new media player is good?02:52
fyrestrtrits very good02:52
harfoozphatmonkey, Scribus is what I use for our dept newsletter.02:52
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phatmonkeyyeah, that looked best to me02:52
donza i mean i guess even microsoft learns... slowly but anyway learns...02:52
phatmonkeywell, the only thing I could find02:53
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fyrestrtrit doesn't allow you to do stupid stuff as easily as you could in XP. For example, even though I have an administrator account, it still asks me with a prompt when I'm about to do something stupid -- like delete a core file (it won't allow it, till I specifically say yes).02:53
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waylandbillbut eye-candy doesn't increase productivity does it?02:53
harfoozphatmonkey, scribus isn't very "easy" though. I've never used MS PUblisher,but I know a lot of people like it. It's very template-driven.02:53
fyrestrtractually, windows new profiling tool will only display the eye-candy that your computer can handle (the performance rating).02:54
gUoXi cant find wlanconfig with kubuntu breezy default installation as server, any idea where to get that ?02:54
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waylandbillunless you're one who pirates windows, then all the eye-candy is disabled... god... that's almost a reason to go that route. ;-)02:54
fyrestrtrI am really liking it -- the only problem is, that since its so damn new (and so damn beta) half the directx enabled stuff doesn't run in accelerated mode (like games).02:54
harfoozphatmonkey, I checked out the book Looking Good in Print from the library, and learned scribus through the docs. It's a steep learning curve, but the results are very good.02:54
donzastill i think vista cant beat xgl+compiz ;)02:54
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arrickDr_Willis you around?02:55
fyrestrtrwaylandbill: yeah I have the Ultimate version -- all eyecandy (plus media center)02:55
phatmonkeyharfooz: I'll look into it later, thanks02:55
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arrickIdleOne, where have you run off to? Philly?02:55
donzamedia center is actually very good product02:55
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harfoozgotta scoot. later phatmonkey02:56
phatmonkeysee ya02:56
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arrickMEDIA center is the bomb, I have never used a windows setup that is this good02:56
Plitskinhi, once tpconfig is installed... do I have to do tpconfig --tapmode=0  everytime I start my computer or not?02:56
phatmonkeymedia centre just crashed for me all the time, literally. I couldn't watch anything without it crashing02:56
phatmonkeyhence, mythtv02:56
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waylandbillI don't like in XP that there isn't a 'sudo' like function. Run As just doesn't cut it.02:57
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HobbseeSeveas: good luck....02:57
Hobbseesee /topic02:57
SeveasHobbsee, is it still hell?02:57
batmancan someone tell me how to fix these errors i'm getting gnome won't start up... http://pastebin.com/66911802:57
HobbseeSeveas: i dont know - we've been shielded by that +R02:57
Hobbsee#kde was getting hit a lot after us..02:58
SeveasHobbsee, ubugtu will raise the shields again on the first sign of trouble02:58
HobbseeSeveas: oh goody :)02:58
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Plitskinguys... sorry to disturb you... After I ran tpconfig -t=0 I get this message... tpconfig --tapmode=0 fatal: Could not open PS/2 Port [/dev/psaux] 03:01
iggehello03:02
iggehow can i use .srt files in totem?03:02
Doatlo03:02
ejofeethe small pc (computer case) speaker is /dev/?03:02
Hobbseeejofee: ah, /dev/dsp i think03:03
ejofeeHobbsee: thank you03:03
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ejofeeHobbsee: /dev/dsp seems to refer to the normal speakers03:04
Hobbseeoh ok03:05
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iggeanyone who knows how subtitles work in totem?03:05
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iggeplease....03:05
Kamping_Kaiserthey appear on the screen03:06
iggebut... how do I make them do that?03:06
Kamping_Kaiseriirc theres a subtitle reading pack in the repos -  you might want to check03:06
Kamping_Kaisertht i dont know :)03:06
Snorre_Ruchigge: i could never seem to get them to work for me, not with matroska files anyway03:06
stephen_banksi think you have to load them using something like totem file:///file.avi#subtitle:file.srt03:07
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iggestephen_banks: aha.. will try that..03:07
stephen_banksokee03:07
arrickAnyone: Have you optimized your ubuntu server system?03:07
hyphenatedarrick: optimized it for what?03:08
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iggestephen_banks: hm no.. didn't work for me..03:10
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stephen_bankshmm, that's how the totem project page says you do it03:11
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iggemaybe it can't find a font or sth..03:11
_kalmhello... does anyone here have any experience playn games on Steam via WINE.. im thinking of fully migratin to linux and thinking whether its worth it... please tell if you have any info.03:11
arrickhyphenated, for best operation, as well optimizing the apache2 setup03:11
iggestephen_banks: do you have a url to that page?03:11
stephen_banksaye, there might be some sort of extension for totem03:12
hyphenatedarrick: well, those are still really vague terms03:12
stephen_banksyeh, sure: http://www.gnome.org/projects/totem/03:12
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hyphenatedarrick: "best operation" is meaningless without context, such as static content, dynamic content with a database backend, etc03:12
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hyphenatedarrick: and in general, optimization is pointless unless you know which part of the system actually needs it. eg: are you CPU-bound or IO-bound, or swapping, or whatnot03:14
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patrick52222ello all03:15
_kalmhello... does anyone here have any experience playn games on Steam via WINE.. im thinking of fully migratin to linux and thinking whether its worth it... im an occasional gamer and just need those to work, please tell if you have any info.03:15
arrickhyphenated, I dont know how to tell all that in ubuntu systems, i have only been using it for 2 months now03:15
GiGaHuRtZhow do i show fps in glxgears?03:16
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patrick52222_kalm not most games work with linux, but if you cant get wine running. you might be able to get cedega working with them03:16
arrickhyphenated, dr_willis mentioned it to me while I wwas setting up the server a while back, and now I am ready to start messign with that stuff, now that I know the server works03:16
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xadonassveiki03:16
arrickhyphenated, you feel like walking me through checking it out?03:17
xadonasa yra lietuviu03:17
xadonas?03:17
hyphenatedarrick: not really, it's pretty late :-)03:17
arrickEnglish please03:17
arrickhyphenated, morning for me, I just got up heh03:17
hyphenatedarrick: work out what you need to optimize first though.03:18
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arrickhyphenated, I want the best possible speed for the mutiple websites that I run03:18
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PingPonghi, where can I find the downloaded package files that I get from synaptic package manager on a livecd?03:19
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_jasonPingPong: /var/cache/apt/archives/03:19
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PingPong_jason: that's also gonna work on a live cd?03:19
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_jasonPingPong: I haven't actually done that on a livecd, but I assume it is the same03:20
patrick52222im trying to set up a ftp server! can anyone help03:20
arrick!ftp03:20
_jasonPingPong: what is your end goal?03:20
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd03:20
PingPong_jason: Thanks found em03:20
arrickpatrick52222, which server?03:20
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_kalmi write the /msg *name* *message* but it doesnt seem to send it... i see it on the screen (to whom i sent it to) >*name*< im a IRC noob, help?03:20
PingPong_jason: i intend to burn these packages on a cd03:20
ejofeethe small pc (computer case) speaker is /dev/?03:21
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patrick52222arrick: i have installed vsftpd, but what do i do now03:21
_kalmps i use xchat03:21
arrickhang on03:21
phrowzen_kalm, register to nickserv03:21
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PingPong_jason: i need to transfer these packages to a computer which does not have internet03:21
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_jasonPingPong: I see, might want to look into apt-zip03:21
waylandbillwhen I mount my samba shares (using the fstab entries) they appear on my desktop. Is there a directive I can put (maybe in the fstab) to prevent that?03:22
thoreauputic_kalm: if you /msg someone, in xchat for example you see it on the screen, but the recipient gets a new window or tab03:22
PingPong_jason: once these packages are on there, how do i install them all at once and where do i put em?03:22
thoreauputic_kalm:  /query will open a new window or tab for you03:22
arrickhey patrick52222 use this site to help you out then come back with questions http://www.vsftpd.org/03:22
hyphenatedarrick: if you don't know what is limiting the speed, then all you're going to do is change stuff without being able to measure whether it helps or not03:22
thoreauputicPingPong: erm - synaptic installs stuff automatically03:22
stephen_bankswaylandbill: are you using gnome? because i know that you can change the gconf-editor to stop network shares coming up on the desktop03:22
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arrickhyphenated, ok03:23
patrick52222ok03:23
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chrissishi03:23
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thoreauputicPingPong: ah sorry - missed your other post03:23
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_jasonPingPong: well apt-zip is made just for what you are doing.  If you just copy the debs over, you could try just dpkg -i *.deb, but I have no idea if that works correctly03:23
arrickhyphenated, I have 700mhz 128mb ram and thats all I know about the box, other than its a mini03:23
fyrestrtr10 gigs enough for ubuntu?03:23
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arrickfyrestrtr, yes03:23
rem_hey ... how can ubuntu be installed from just a floppy drive and a wifi card ... ?03:23
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arrickfyrestrtr, I instaleed it on a 3 gig03:24
fyrestrtrokay -- gonna try something stupid -- vista and ubuntu dual boot :D03:24
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arrickoriginally03:24
waylandbillfyrestrtr: 3 gig is good03:24
PingPong_jason: apt-zip seems handy03:24
arrickfyrestrtr, your right about the word you used03:24
arrickhaha03:24
hyphenatedarrick: that's fine. and now monitor CPU, disk IO, free memory and swap utilization for a while, and see if any of those things need to be changed03:24
thoreauputicfyrestrtr: cross platform virus, eh? *g*03:24
hyphenatedarrick: and distinguish between apache CPU usage and whatever backend you're using too.03:24
arrickfyrestrtr, do you have the vista installed already?03:24
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arrickhyphenated, backend as in os?03:25
hyphenatedarrick: no, backend as in a database, if you're using one03:25
arricknone03:25
waylandbillstephen_banks: right now I'm using kde, but it does it under both... that'll get me half way there at least. ;-)03:25
fouldsy03:25
PingPong_jason: so how exactly would i use apt-zip then?03:25
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rem_...or is there a way to install ubunutu from windows ... ?03:25
stephen_bankswaylandbill: hmm, im not sure how to get it working in kde03:25
arrickrem03:26
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waylandbillrem_: colinux, but that's probably not what you mean.03:26
rem_Id like to install ubuntu on this laptop and all i have is a floppy drive a wifi card, and win2k installed ..03:26
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Plitskinhmmm...03:26
_jasonPingPong: I've never actually used it myself, you'll have to look at the manpage03:26
hyphenatedrem_: not even a CD drive?03:27
Plitskinguys, are thing inside the /etc/init.d automatically executed at startup?03:27
arrickrem_, are you wanting dual boot? or just ubuntu?03:27
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hyphenatedPlitskin: no03:27
Plitskincan I just put any random file in there with my script in it?03:27
PingPong_jason: might as well. Thanks03:27
rem_lol...it would be easy if i had a cd drive ,.. :P03:27
_jasonPlitskin: man update-rc.d03:27
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Plitskinhyphenated: thanks03:27
waylandbillPlitskin: they're run at certain runlevels.03:27
rem_just ubuntu...or even dual if i can get ubuntu taht way ..03:27
Plitskin_jason: thanks03:28
stephen_bankswaylandbill: just to let you know, the settings to change are in gconf-editor, apps -> nautilus ->desktop -> volumes visible, but im not sure if this will stop any removable devices from showing03:28
arrickwho is xerxes13?03:28
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fyrestrtrarrick: yeah :)03:28
Plitskinwaylandbill: any recommended readings?03:28
IceToxCatch ya'll later =)03:28
waylandbillstephen_banks: ok. I'll do that.03:28
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arrickfyrestrtr, shouldnt be more than a dualboot install then03:28
fyrestrtryeah have done it before, I just hope it doesn't fubar the IBM protected boot area.03:29
arrickWhy would soneome send me a file without notifying me in here first?03:29
rem_i guess i could take the drive out, and recompile a kernel for my laptop ...but i dont have a 2nd laptop or an adaptor to plug the drive in a atx case ...03:29
arrickxerxes13, who are you?03:29
fyrestrtrarrick: report it, could be a virus, spammer.03:29
rem_anyone knows a way...i think mandrake you could start the install from windows ..03:29
arrickxerxes13, I dont accept from people I dont know03:30
fyrestrtrrem_: reboot the pc with the install cd inside.03:30
ejofeethe small pc (computer case) speaker is /dev/?03:30
arrick!ops03:30
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee03:30
rem_I have no cd drive ...03:30
Hobbseearrick: ?03:30
fyrestrtrrem_: network boot? floppy?03:30
rem_yea03:30
Hobbseearrick: what's the problem?03:30
patrick52222i opened and edited  vi /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf how do i save and exit it03:30
rem_floppy....or maybe wifi card ..03:30
arrickHobbsee, I havea  xerxes13 trying to send me a file and I want whoever it is stoped, cause I dont know them03:30
fyrestrtrpatrick52222: esc :wq03:31
thoreauputicarrick: ?03:31
apokryphosarrick: do NOT misuse the !ops call.03:31
rem_any tutorial on that ?03:31
waylandbillPlitskin: this shows how to write them. don't know if it applies to what you're trying to accomplish: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html03:31
fyrestrtrpatrick52222: hit escape, then type : then wq then hit enter03:31
xerxes13ple03:31
apokryphosarrick: quite a quick way to get banned.03:31
xerxes13kakoi nna fail03:31
arrickok, thought that was why they were here sorry03:31
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Hobbseearrick: they are in this channel, but they can send thing to you regardless of if they are in the channel or not03:31
_jasonarrick: just /ignore xerxes1303:32
Plitskinwaylandbill: thanks  ;)03:32
thoreauputicarrick: you've heard the story of the boy who cried "Wolf!" I suppose...03:32
rem_is there a boot floppy for ubuntu, that has drivers for wifi cards included .. ?03:32
patrick52222it does nt work03:32
arrickapokryphos, I was actually just trying to get the names of the ops sorry03:32
xerxes13zdesi na ruskom ktoto razgovarivaet?03:32
gnomefreak_jason: wont that only ignore in channel not server tab?03:32
_jasongnomefreak: want to test?03:32
_jasonI'm not actually sure03:32
gnomefreak_jason: sure03:32
thoreauputicarrick: that sets off the ops beeps or notifications03:32
fyrestrtrarrick: /msg obotu ops or !tell arrick about ops works well without spamming the chan03:32
apokryphosarrick: you should use /chanserv access #channel list03:32
fyrestrtrarrick: I don't know if that triggers the op alarm or not03:33
fyrestrtruse at own risk.03:33
gnomefreak_jason: how do i unignore you after?03:33
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patrick52222fyrestrtr: when i press Esc it doesnt do any thing03:33
arrickok guys thatnks03:33
thoreauputicxerxes13: english here03:33
fyrestrtrpatrick52222: its not supposed to do anything03:33
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fyrestrtrpatrick52222: just trust me, its vi :)03:33
fyrestrtrhit escape03:33
waylandbillrem_: not that I know of. you have to use one from another distro. I have a laptop with dead cd rom...so I know... the easiest is to put into a desktop with a 2.5->3.5 adapter if that's your situation03:33
fyrestrtrthen type : - you will see : on the bottom of your screen03:34
patrick52222fyrestrtr: yep hit ESC then03:34
stephen_banks:wq03:34
stephen_banksit should exit, saved03:34
fyrestrtrthen type wq so the bottom of your screen is :wq then hit enter03:34
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fyrestrtrwq = write + quit03:34
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rem_msg waylandbill ok ...and recompile kernel to the laptop specifications i guess ..03:35
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waylandbillrem_: default kernel worked for me.03:36
rem_ok03:36
patrick52222fyrestrtr: can you try and ftp me please03:37
fyrestrtr???03:37
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fyrestrtrwhat is your IP address?03:37
patrick52222 86.0.251.11003:37
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superhow to connect to windows remotedesktop through VNC?03:38
arrick!tell xerxes13 about restricted03:38
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superhow to connect to windows remotedesktop through VPN?03:39
llHi03:39
thoreauputicsuper: don't repeat03:39
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ejofee!dev03:39
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ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ejofee03:39
llI'm having a strage problem03:39
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lli can't share my internet connection03:39
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fyrestrtrsuper: Applications --> Internet --> Terminal Server Client03:39
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ejofeell: and why is this strange?03:39
fyrestrtrpatrick52222: connection timed out03:40
thoreauputicsuper: use the terminal sever app under applications - internet03:40
arrick!tell xerxes13 about wine03:40
gnomefreakarrick: /ignore <usrname> will stop the d.c.c s.e.n.d.s03:40
llfirst 1 installed firestarter03:40
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superok03:40
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arrickgnomefreak, I have in a pm right now, didnt know protocal03:40
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patrick52222fyrestrtr: ok thanks for tryiing03:40
llthen i configured my eth0 as 100.100.100.1 255.0.0.003:40
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ejofeell: avoid 100.*03:41
ejofeell: i recommend 10.*03:41
stephen_banksyeh, i always go for 192.168.*03:41
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bolsheft???03:41
gnomefreakarrick: just letting you know for future (we had to test it03:41
arrickthanks you gnomefreak03:41
bolshwhat's an eft?03:41
llok03:41
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ejofeell: 100.* is taken03:41
thoreauputic!eft03:41
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, thoreauputic03:41
arrickgnomefreak, is there any way to turn off dcc?03:41
thoreauputicheh03:41
ejofeell: it creates confusion03:41
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llok I was told to try 192.168.0.1 but my modem is usig it so i'll try 10.*03:42
arrickll, try womething that starts with 10, 192, or03:42
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arrickhey ll you can use 192.168.1.1 as well03:43
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gnomefreakarrick: i dont see a way in /help dcc03:43
arrickor 2.103:43
arrickthanks gnomefreak03:43
gnomefreakyw03:43
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sobbbberhow can i update gnome to 2.14 in ubuntu (breezy)?03:43
arrickby the way morning gnomefreak03:43
thoreauputic!eft03:43
ubotufrom memory, eft is a newt in its terrestrial stage of development03:43
lleven if my modem is using 192.168.0.1?03:43
thoreauputic:)03:43
patrick52222fyrestrtr: when i edited the vi way i got this after do :wq03:43
thoreauputic!good bot03:43
waldenthoreauputic: :D03:43
ubotu:)03:43
arrickat least we all know the ops are awake due to my mistake gnomefreak03:43
patrick52222fyrestrtr:             139,1         Bot03:43
arrickhaha03:43
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stephen_bankspatrcik52222: thats the line count in vi03:44
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patrick52222E45: 'readonly' option is set (add ! to override)03:44
stephen_banksthen you're editing a file you cant write to03:45
stephen_banksare you running vi as root?03:45
Snorre_Ruchll: if your new to networking, you may find it easier to : apt-get install ipmasq03:45
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arrick!bot snack03:45
ubotuthanks arrick :)03:45
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ejofeethe modem and the sharing device must be on two different networks, so yes, even then03:45
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ejofeell: the modem and the sharing device must be on two different networks, so yes, even then03:46
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SKunsai379Hey, can someone help me out with a quick question?03:46
mikkelkI'm trying to  get XGL/Conpiz working in Dapper, but i have to change something in the key "plugins" in apps/compiz/general/all screens/options in the configuration editor, but i don't have a "plugins" key, only "Active_plugins", "autoraise", "autoraise-delay", "click to focus" and "texture_filter".  Should i just create the key then?03:46
PipeHi, how can I add aditional languages to may ubuntu box?03:46
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thoreauputic!tell SKunsai379 about ask03:46
waylandbillgnomefreak: lol03:46
SKunsai379ask03:46
thoreauputicgnomefreak: beware !03:46
SKunsai379?03:46
fyrestrtrseems ubuntu's installer doesn't like vista's partition03:46
waldenhehe03:46
bolshthoreauputic: It's apparently the name of 5.06 + 103:46
bolshthoreauputic: Edgy Eft03:47
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sobbbberhi. how can i set ubuntu to automatically mount my hd on boot/start-up?03:47
patrick52222stephen_banks: cheers it worked when i done sudo03:47
waylandbillfyrestrtr: vista use ntfs still?03:47
arrickfyrestrtr, I dont think it was written with it in mind, but you can tweak it and submit it to the others03:47
arrickhaha03:47
stephen_bankspatrick52222: you're welcome ^_^03:47
thoreauputicbolsh: erm, yes I get the announces - but thanks03:47
thoreauputic:003:47
fyrestrtrwaylandbill: nope.03:47
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ubotu[eft]  a newt in its terrestrial stage of development - the release after Dapper will be called Edgy Eft03:47
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waylandbillfyrestrtr: curious, what's it use now?03:47
_jason#ubuntu+2?03:47
Snorre_Ruchwaylandbill: winfs03:48
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Snorre_Ruchwaylandbill: oh wait maybe in a few years03:48
bolshthoreauputic: You asked ubotu earlier, who didn't know, so I was wondering03:48
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sobbbberhello. help please.. hi. how can i set ubuntu to automatically mount my hd on boot/start-up?03:48
SKunsai379Oh.03:48
thoreauputicbolsh: I was seeing if someone else had made a factoid03:48
walden!mount03:48
ubotuhmm... mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f03:48
arrick!mount03:48
thoreauputicbolsh: I made one :)03:48
SKunsai379I wanted to know if anyone's had odd experiences with PPC Ubuntu.03:48
arrickwalden, you beat me :^(:::::03:49
waylandbillDoes vista still read FAT and NTFS though?03:49
bolshah03:49
SKunsai379Trying to run it on a G3 iMac.03:49
bolshdanke03:49
waldenhehe, arrick03:49
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waldeni'm jobless.. waiting for the update to complete.03:49
bolshSKunsai379: Only odd experiences.03:49
arrickme too03:49
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bolshSKunsai379: What's your problem?03:49
PreZWorkOK, this may sound silly - but I'm a Gentoo use right now, but considering a switch possibly to a non-source based distro, and I've heard a lot about ubuntu - the question is what is the major reason to use ubuntu?03:49
ompaulwaylandbill, ask in ##windows please, :-)03:49
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thoreauputicSKunsai379: I run breezy on an iBookG403:49
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arrickPreZWork, Ubuntu ROCKS03:49
PreZWorkarrick: what a useless reply.03:50
ompaulPreZWork, cos you don't want to do Gentoo any more, it works well, it has a good community around it03:50
waylandbillompaul: ok. I'll just forget it entirely. :-)03:50
SKunsai379I gave a friend of mine the PPC Ubuntu CD, and her iMac G3 boots up but freezes and the screen goes black before GNOME starts.03:50
SKunsai379Any ideas?03:50
proffrinxhow big is the hard drive?03:50
SKunsai379LiveCD.03:50
mcmillenthis is minor (though major for me): if you're a Python programmer, Ubuntu has great python support.03:50
fyrestrtrwaylandbill: yes03:50
arrickPreZWork, a lot of support from users who knwo what they are doing, such as in here03:50
SKunsai379HD is I think 5 GB.03:50
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ompaulwaylandbill, there actually is such a channel03:50
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proffrinxI have never gotten the G3 iMac to work with a live CD03:50
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Plitskinhi, I have a directory owned by root... I want it to be accessible by all users so I did  chmod a+rw mydirectory but I still can't access the directory03:50
ejofeearrick: if you think ubuntu rocks, then you are free to choose any other distro. nobody forces you to use ubuntu.03:51
Snorre_RuchPreZWork: solid debian foundation, rad community, dependable release cycle, stable03:51
SKunsai379And she can't exactly install yet.03:51
proffrinxthe only way I got ubuntu to install on the G3 iMac was to use a smallish hard drive03:51
PlitskinI already did sudo -s to have a root shell03:51
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PreZWorkarrick: 'k.  I know ubuntu is based off debian - does it follow Debian's philosophy of 'nothing that is not open source'?  ie. will I be able to use my proprietary drivers and such OK?03:51
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waylandbillI used Gentoo. The time you save from having to compile emerges is reason enough for me to change.. not to mention I prefer stable over bleeding edge03:51
SKunsai379Problem is that she has no space for dual boot.03:51
tonyyarussoPlitskin: What directory?03:51
thoreauputicPlitskin: don't do that - add your users to a group and give froup permissions onm the directory03:51
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fyrestrtrPreZWork: yes03:51
PreZWorkwaylandbill: I run Gentoo with ~x86 - ie. I stay on the bleeding edge ;)03:51
thoreauputics/froup/group03:52
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Plitskintonyyarusso: I'm not user if I was the one who made it or my download manager... It's called MyDownloads03:52
PreZWorkI assume ubuntu is easily upgradable (ie. for upgrading the entire system) - Can I do an ubuntu install without X (ie. server-only)?03:52
waylandbillompaul: I'm sure there is.03:52
Snorre_RuchPreZWork:  thats one of the beauties, repositories with those sort of things, not included but just a vi away03:52
fyrestrtrPreZWork: yes03:52
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tonyyarussoPlitskin: You mean you're not the owner?03:52
arrickejofee, ok, guys, when an American says something like Ubuntu Rocks, it means it is awesome, its not derogatory, sorry if it means otherwise where youa re from.03:52
mcmillenanother thing i like about ubuntu -- all the package management heaven of debian, but you get stable distributions every 6 months instead of every 3 years03:52
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Plitskintonyyarusso: it seems that way...03:53
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robinl1hey, how to set my internal ip to 10.0.0.155 instead of using DHCP?03:53
arrickmorning tonyyarusso03:53
tonyyarussoarrick: Hey.03:53
alex__e03:53
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ejofeearrick: oh, i see. mea culpa.03:53
Plitskintonyyarusso: I must have created it when I was still logged in as sudo -s03:53
fyrestrtrrobinl1: System -> Administration -> Networking03:53
tonyyarussoPlitskin: I'm assuming this is in your home directory but created incorrectly.03:53
PreZWorkmcmillen: do distributions matter with ubuntu?  ie. is there a way I can run it so when I update, I have the latest, even if I last did a clean install 5 years ago?03:53
waldenmake it static from dynamic03:53
fyrestrtrPreZWork: yes03:54
mcmillenPreZWork: yes03:54
Snorre_RuchPreZWork: there is actually a ubuntu server distro03:54
tonyyarussoPlitskin: Okay, then you can do something like 'sudo chown plitskin:plitskin /home/plitskin/MyDownloads'03:54
mcmillenPreZWork: i mean, aside from the fact that ubuntu hasn't been around for 5 years yet :)03:54
ompaulPreZWork, we also have one of the coolest wiki pages anywhere };-> wiki.ubuntu.com/Root btw thats what stopped me from going back to debian I did it for a week and was hooked03:54
Snorre_RuchPreZWork: or project i sghould say03:54
Plitskintonyyarusso: Yes it is in my home directory03:54
thoreauputicPreZWork: you cn upgrade from one release to the next03:54
waldenumm, a dist-upgrade from a old release to a new release number will not break things?03:54
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waylandbillor from one release to the latest03:54
fyrestrtrwalden: for some definitions of 'break things' no.03:54
tonyyarussoPlitskin: And thoreauputic is right, if you want to let others see it, it would be better to create a group and add them then a+rw.03:54
Plitskintonyyarusso: ok, will try that now...03:55
thoreauputicwalden: not if it's one step ( eg hoary > breezy03:55
waylandbillI'm always wary of it though03:55
waldeni read in the forums. people had problems from 4->5, it was not recommended.03:55
waldeni am sure there will be more than one release in 5 years, thoreauputic03:55
Plitskintonyyarusso: yeah, that's a logical suggestion03:55
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tonyyarussowalden: 4->5?  There is no 5...03:55
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Snorre_Ruchwalden: always fixable, probably not recoomended for prod machines or the inexperienced03:55
walden5.0403:55
thoreauputicwalden: I wasn't suggesting that you could jump that many releases :)03:55
waldenlol03:55
ompaulwalden, if your machine is not full of rubbish and is a clean box it whould work 4.10 - 5.04 had issues but if your on 5.04 or 5.10 then moving one step at a time is pretty okay03:55
PreZWorkalso - two-part question here - 1) does ubuntu have different compiles of things so that I don't have to have i386 compatible binaries (ie. not-optimized) on my athlon-mp?  and 2) how does ubuntu handle things like dependancies - eg. whether I do or do not want a version of X application with LDAP support (for example)?03:56
mcmillenwalden: i had problems with mysql 4 -> mysql 5 on upgrading to dapper, but i think that would be a problem no matter what distro was used (more of a mysql problem than an ubuntu one)03:56
waldenone step at a time is different from step 1-step 10. he wants the latest from old.03:56
agliv5thoreauputic Thanks for all your help yesterday :)  I'm sorry to say that since then something has gone wrong.  Upon attempting to reboot it's not geting any further than /etc/init.d/bootclean.sh: line 42 read only file system03:56
PreZWork(ie. in the case of 'do' it has to be compiled with LDAP support, in the case of 'do not', I do not want to have to install LDAP at all (if it was one compile, I would still need the ldap libs, even if I didn't want them and did not use them)03:56
waldenwhich is what someone had done. and it didn't work. in the forums. /me has no clue though03:56
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tonyyarussowalden: Have to do it in increments.  That's the only way that' supported.03:57
waldenmy 4th with with linux and loving it!03:57
waldenwee, week03:57
Plitskintonyyarusso: thanks, that did it :D03:57
tonyyarussoPlitskin: Good stuff.03:57
waylandbillPreZWork: you can always use source and optimize it yourself.03:57
thoreauputicPreZWork: I think you are gentoo material :) Debian distros don't go to that extent03:57
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ompaulPreZWork, 1) yes 2) not if you step outside the versions with the release, you have to then manage them yourself, the release gets patched along the way if there are security issues or some other *compelling* reason but you pretty much keep the same software from day one of a release to end of life, reason stability :-)03:57
agliv5thoreauputic now it's saying /var/run/cardmgr.pid read-only file system03:57
thoreauputicagliv5: sorry, I don't remember your issue to be honest03:57
velis it possible to install ubuntu thru knoppix?03:58
PreZWork'k - thanks :)03:58
agliv5thoreauputic it's a new issue now I can't reboot03:58
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waylandbillI never needed so much optimization that I need to worry about it. I get paid by the hour. ;-)03:58
thoreauputicvel: probably, but probably tricky03:58
mcmillenvel: not AFAIK, though there is an ubuntu livecd, if that's what you're looking for03:59
ompaulPreZWork, gentoo and ubuntu/debian are as different as gentoo / and some rpm based distro but its a nicer difference :-)03:59
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PreZWorkfinally, can I install ubuntu with a small disk footprint (eg. less than 1gb ram)03:59
mcmillen1gb ram, or hd?03:59
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thoreauputicPreZWork: you can install a server Ubuntu in less than 1G hdd03:59
PreZWorkompaul: I know they're different since gentoo is source based, I'm just trying to get a feel of how fine-grained the control is in ubuntu for handling things like dependancies, and optimizing for different architectures, etc.03:59
agliv5it hung for about 5 min with a read only file system error now it's saying that the x server couldn't be startet due to internal errors03:59
PreZWorkthoreauputic: cool :)04:00
thoreauputicPreZWork: in fact you can have a light GUI as well04:00
thoreauputicPreZWork: e.g. fluxbox, maybe xfce404:00
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PreZWorkheh, my servers are all connected to a KVM which goes to a monitor that is so old that I wouldn't WANT to do anything more than text mode on it :P04:00
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thoreauputicPreZWork: dependancies are not a problem with apt04:01
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agliv5thoreauputic it's now saying that the x-server couldn't start due to internal errors04:01
ompaulPreZWork, in terms of finegranded it is not gentoo, it "locks a bundle" together and maintains that as a stable platform then you get a release which pushes version numbers upwards04:01
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ejofeethe small pc (computer case) speaker is /dev/?04:01
thoreauputicagliv5: have you tried  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ?04:01
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ejofee!dsp04:02
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ejofee04:02
llHey guys I tried to do the changes I changed the Ip addres to 10.0.0.1 but I still can't connect04:02
eucarisHi, I'd like to get some help, can anyone do it?04:02
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agliv5thoreauputic I'm currently at the login04:02
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Xardasgood morning04:02
lli did this steps04:02
thoreauputicagliv5: so try the command i gave you04:02
Xardashow could i convert a xml in a lilypond-file?04:02
thoreauputicagliv5:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:03
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ejofeell: connect to what?04:03
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ll iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE04:03
llecho 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward04:03
llapt-get install dnsmasq ipmasq04:03
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ejofeell: are the two computers on the same network?04:03
ll/etc/init.d/dnsmasq restart04:03
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llis04:03
lli can share the files04:04
munzirHi, most apps I launch from a terminal shows: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169   Major opcode:  147  Minor opcode:  3 Failed to open device04:04
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lli can do ping 10.0.0.204:04
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i9663#fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai04:04
e7893#fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai04:04
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apokryphoshm04:04
wm0twow thats cool04:04
_jasonbots vs. bots04:04
thoreauputicthank goodness for Ubugtu04:04
ompaulapokryphos, it works :-)04:04
PreZWorkthanks for your help with the questions :)04:04
nalioth_zZzno, not really, apokryphos04:04
naliothanyone seen seveas today?04:04
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_jasonnalioth: he was here earlier04:04
thoreauputicnalioth: he was here earlier04:05
thoreauputicheh04:05
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ejofeenalioth: i think not04:05
thoreauputic_jason: stop messing with my mind! *grin*04:05
Seveasapokryphos, don't04:05
Seveasplease leave +R on04:05
ejofeenalioth: but i can't speak for everybody04:05
apokryphosoh, testing something04:05
mcf501hi i am trying to complie some opengl for a project i have my uni uses mesa-4.0. I am having trouble compiling the example code (on dapper)04:05
munzir!seen seveas04:05
ubotuseveas is currently on #kubuntu (1h 26m 54s) #ubuntu+1 (1h 26m 54s) #ubuntu-offtopic (1h 26m 54s) #edubuntu (1h 26m 54s) #kubuntu-offtopic (1h 26m 54s) #ubuntu (1h 26m 54s)04:05
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apokryphos...04:06
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apokryphosfew members in here are registered ;-)04:06
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gnomefreaki should/better be ;)04:07
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blki have a usb device (touchscreen) behaving strangely: it connects, then disconnect and so on until i pull the plug - i've seen something simliar with a usb-pen on: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=150804 - take a look at his dmesg - can someone give me a hint on this one?04:07
apokryphosit's not really realistic to have, though04:07
apokryphosSeveas: why?04:07
thoreauputicall thos e who can't speak: do  /msg nickserv register <password>04:07
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ompaulapokryphos, you will be banning ips every few minutes all day otherwise :-(04:07
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gnomefreak+R is good on those days_o_soam04:07
apokryphosompaul: what, there are new IRC flooders?04:08
thoreauputicapokryphos: lots04:08
gnomefreakspam even04:08
ompaulapokryphos, lots of it04:08
DarkEDhi, has anyone here tried a splash image for grub?04:08
apokryphoshm, must've missed them04:08
Hobbseeurgh, not more of them...04:08
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apokryphosI'd really rather use the +r method and have -unregged04:08
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Hobbseeapokryphos: the latest guy only got two lines in...04:08
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gnomefreak+f is new to me04:08
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Hobbseenew to me too...04:08
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Hobbseewonder what it is04:09
apokryphosgnomefreak: forces to the new channel when user doesn't have access to this one or there's overload04:09
gnomefreakscared to ask04:09
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gnomefreakoh i remember that one04:09
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jgonzalez_hola04:09
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technicali have just installed ubuntu04:09
ll.04:09
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technicaland am struggling with a few things04:09
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WK|Dutchyok04:09
apokryphostechnical: shoot04:10
agliv5technical like what?04:10
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arrickapokryphos, you should see how mad they get when you paste the spam back into thier channel and send the msg to all of their ops04:10
Hobbseehehe!04:10
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Hobbseethat could be kinda fun to try04:10
llDoes any one know how to solve my problem?04:10
arrickhey guys this was an ops reply04:10
arrick<conan^> some loser who have a lot of time is doing that to give us bad reputation :\04:10
apokryphoshm04:11
sobbbberhow do i install dashboard (http://www.nat.org/dashboard) on ubuntu?04:11
arrickhe also claims those are not his bots04:11
thoreauputicarrick: afaik the chanel is innocent so please don't spam them04:11
arrickI wont04:11
agliv5thoreauputic can#t open read only file system04:11
ompaulit is some kind of turkish linux / open source thing04:12
arrickI dont like it so I dont do it, unless I notice a bot, then I contact to findo out if its a clone04:12
thoreauputicagliv5: erm that suggests the hard disk isn't mounted, or rather is mounted read only04:12
agliv5thoreauputic what can I do to correct this?04:12
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thoreauputicagliv5: I don't really know, sorry - what hardware are you using ?04:13
arrickwhat's you think in there _jason ?04:13
agliv5thoreauputic it's a fijitsu siemens amilo M7405 Notebook04:14
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thoreauputicagliv5: just shot in the dark - have you tried running the installer with acpi=off  ?04:14
munzirHello, Why would I need w32codecs? to play which files? I already can play .avi and wmv04:14
thoreauputicagliv5: also I suggest looking at the wiki about laptops04:15
arrickwma, mp304:15
DarkEDum04:15
thoreauputicagliv5: I don't have theurl...04:15
DarkEDsomething just happened to my mouse04:15
arrick!wiki04:15
gnomefreakmunzir: there are more than just those in that package but all depends on your needs04:15
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waylandbillmunzir: wma04:16
DarkEDi just lost all functionality of my mouse, and there is a 'no' symbol for my cursor04:16
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munzirgnomefreak: can you give me just one format that i can't play without it so I know?04:16
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RabidWeezleubotu, codecs04:16
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories04:16
munzirwaylandbill: ah04:16
gnomefreakmunzir: no i dont have any use for them but the package is huge04:16
RabidWeezle!w32codecs04:16
ubotuwell, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install04:17
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agliv5thoreauputic I rebooted again and got to loading deamon then a list of things the system is checking and it stoped at /etc/init.d/bootclean.sh: line 42 /tmp/.clean: read only file system  *restoring resolver state... *setting up networking...  * Starting system log daemon...  .socket: address already in usenly04:17
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mcf501undefined reference to  `glutInit'04:18
waldenlater guys. night from here.04:18
jadaz87does anyone know if there is going to be a media center version of ubuntu?04:18
thoreauputicagliv5: sorry but I don't know what the problem is - I don't know enough about laptops and hardware to help you04:18
mcf501i am having problems compling some opengl ^ is the error, any ideas on how to fix that?04:19
thoreauputicagliv5: which is why I suggest you search the wiki for laptop info04:19
RabidWeezle!gmplayer?04:20
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RabidWeezle04:20
RabidWeezlehey, mplayer isn't showing up in any of the repos?04:20
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Kamping_Kaisermultiverse04:21
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apokryphosRabidWeezle: /msg ubotu mplayer04:21
RabidWeezleI enabled multiverse04:21
arrickRabidWeezle, try googling it04:21
gnomefreakRabidWeezle: did you enable backports multiverse or real multiverse?04:21
mcf501!glut04:21
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mcf50104:21
Kamping_Kaiserand its mplayer-`uname -r`04:21
RabidWeezlelemme check backports04:21
Kamping_Kaiseriirc04:21
mcf501!mesa04:22
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mcf50104:22
gnomefreakKamping_Kaiser: mplayer-arch04:22
agliv5thoreauputic It was working just fine yesterday, and all this morning then I installed some programms and all kinds of gremlins appeared like a hard drive for root a copy of the root hd root(2) every time I mounted / unmounted the cdrom a new drive appeared... and so on04:22
gnomefreakubotu tell mcf501 about msg the bot04:22
CraiZEgnomefreak,04:22
gnomefreakCraiZE: ?04:22
CraiZEremember when i was whining there was no tool to mount iso's through GUI ?04:22
CraiZEwell, i solved the problem: http://www.project-scar.com/CraiZE/My%20Apps/ISOMount/isomount.jpg04:22
CraiZE;)04:22
gnomefreakCraiZE: yeah04:22
CraiZEbrb smoke :D04:22
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agliv5thoreauputic I'd just install ubuntu except I had about 700MB data in tmp that I don't want destroyed04:23
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agliv5thoreauputic or is it possible to reinstall Ubuntu without reformating?04:24
robinl1how to get the SVN version of xfce?04:24
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thoreauputicagliv5: not as far as I know - why not boot up knoppix or some live CD and copy your data across the network, or dump it on a USB stick or whatever ?04:25
fyrestrtrI'd say eye candy in vista is just about at the same level as OS X -- and that's when my system rating is 2 (highest being 5)04:26
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fyrestrtragliv5: what is wrong? why do you want to reinstall?04:26
agliv5thoreauputic that's a very good idea :)  I'll see what the smalest live cd is and then go that path04:26
SirKillalothow do I use a regexp in bash?04:26
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agliv5fyrestrtr because everything is all messed up04:27
fyrestrtrSirKillalot: #bash04:27
_jasonSirKillalot: grep? what do you want to do with it?04:27
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SirKillalot_jason, yeah, maybe in grep04:27
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fyrestrtrwhat do you want to match?04:27
SirKillalotlets say04:27
agliv5fyrestrtr apparently Ubuntu is mounting my hard drive read only and therfore can not load properly04:28
SirKillalotI want to search a word out of a sentence04:28
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SirKillalot"Hello are you there" should return "are" when I search for a[ro] e04:28
fyrestrtrgrep word file-that-contains-sentence.txt04:28
SirKillalotgrep will return the whole line04:28
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_jasonegrep -o 'a[ro] e'04:28
agliv5fyrestrtr If you have any other suggestions on how I can get back into Ubuntu easier than reinstalling, let me know :)04:28
mcf501if i downlaod and install mesa from mesa3d.org will it confilct with the opengl ubuntu ships with?04:29
kickfacceis there a way to make one of my soundcards non existent?04:29
fyrestrtragliv5: still don't understand what is the problem, your drive is being mounted ro only?04:29
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fyrestrtrkickfacce: I assume you mean other than unplugging it04:29
kickfaccefyrestrtr, yeah this is onboard i want to disable it or something04:29
afiefWill there be a Beta release of Dapper Drake tomorrow? my ubuntu broke and i can't fix it, so if they are releasing the beta i'll install that04:30
fyrestrtrkickfacce: check your bios04:30
kickfaccefyrestrtr, isn't there a way in ubuntu to just remove it?04:30
FrogzooSirKillalot: man 7 regex04:31
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agliv5fyrestrtr you've been in the forum long enough to scroll up and read the complete error description that I sent to thoreauputic...  I'd copy&paste for you but I don't know how...04:32
fyrestrtrkickfacce: I don't know , you could unload the module.04:32
fyrestrtr'then I installed some programms' <-- what did you install?04:33
afiefWill there be a beta release tomorrow? my system is broken and i need a new install04:34
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Frogzoo!dapper04:34
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)04:34
we2byhi, what version of gnome does Ubuntu come with?04:35
fyrestrtrafief: latest beta is flight6 iirc04:35
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j0hanneshi04:35
agliv5fyrestrtr Licq & k3b along with all the packages needed to complie and get everything running04:35
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fyrestrtragliv5: you isntalled it from repos, or manually?04:35
afieffyrestrtr: yes, but i meant if they are going to release a new on(as 20.4 was the original release date)04:36
deathscytheh64hi, is this the channel i can ask about network hardware not playing nice with ubuntu?04:36
j0hannesi have a little problem running x. from time to time the system frozes04:36
fyrestrtrafief: oh that, I don't know. Best ask in #ubuntu+104:36
fyrestrtrdeathscytheh64: sure04:36
fyrestrtrj0hannes: it does this when you do something, or just .. randomly?04:36
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Frogzoodeathscytheh64: that's the theory04:37
agliv5thoreauputic warned me yesterday about running GUIs from a terminal loged in as root, mabye that's what happened...  I installed them manualy04:37
j0hannesfyrestrtr: both. i can cause it selecting a packet in synaptics for example04:37
deathscytheh64thanks, i've been having a lot of trouble getting my nice shiny new belkin f5d7011 pcmcia card to work on my laptop04:37
Frogzooj0hannes: update your vid driver if possible04:37
agliv5fyrestrtr did you get that last message, forgot to address it...04:38
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j0hannesFrogzoo: can you tell me how? just a little hint please :)04:38
Frogzooj0hannes: just state your problem - if someone in channel can answer, they will04:38
j0hannesFrogzoo: i mean how to update the driver. isn't apt updating it automatically?04:39
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fyrestrtrjust a minute, on another pc brb04:39
Frogzooj0hannes: not necessarily - which vid card do you have?04:40
j0hannesif i use xfce the problem appears in between the first 5 minutes04:40
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j0hannesFrogzoo: lspci says VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY04:40
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Tortanickhello everyone04:41
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Frogzooj0hannes: a model number would help - maybe you can run the fglrx driver04:41
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fyrestrtrman I love IBM. They provide the BEST restore and recovery software with their computers.04:41
Plitskinanyone using JBOSS here?04:41
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tonyyarussofyrestrtr: Well, it only restores Windows...04:42
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fyrestrtragliv5: sorry, I cannot help you beyond a reset.04:42
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fyrestrtrtonyyarusso: nope, all applications too :) it creates 6 CDs -- a complete backup.04:42
Tortanickdose anyone know how to fix a 530 authentication error on pure-ftpd? only happens when I try to use a virtual user04:42
j0hannesFrogzoo: how can i get the model number?04:42
fyrestrtrin fact, it gives you an option -- restore only windows, restore windows and apps, restore hard disk.04:42
Frogzooj0hannes: lappie or desktop?04:42
tonyyarussofyrestrtr: Well, yeah, but you've still got Windows ;)04:42
j0hannesFrogzoo: laptop04:43
fyrestrtrj0hannes: what brand laptop is it?04:43
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fyrestrtrtonyyarusso: only temporarily, dual booting :)04:43
j0hannesfyrestrtr: its a sony vaio pcg-cimgp04:43
tonyyarussofyrestrtr: Okay.  Then I guess we won't eat you.  (I have a T43)04:43
Frogzooj0hannes: check the manufacturers specs - then match the card against the fglrx requirements, ubuto will tell you more04:43
fyrestrtrtonyyarusso: heh, so do I :)04:43
Frogzoo!tell j0hannes about fglrx04:43
afief!tell Afief about fglrx04:44
fyrestrtrj0hannes: look up the exact model number.04:44
fyrestrtrtonyyarusso: what kind is yours? the one with the fingerprint scanner?04:44
tonyyarussofyrestrtr: Nope.  2668-49U if you want to look it up.04:45
oxigeni have another swap partition on second hd, how can i add this space to first one?04:45
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fyrestrtrtonyyarusso: I have 2668-Tsomething ... need to turn it over.04:45
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PreZWorkhrm - I thought 6.06 was already released.04:45
DaneeBoyHi all :)04:45
j0hannesfyrestrtr, Frogzoo: x has detected a Radeon Mobility 900004:45
fyrestrtrtonyyarusso: tonyyarusso anyway, the reason I asked you is because there is a driver (closed sourced) available for the fingerprint scanner that integrates with pam.04:45
DaneeBoyIs this the offical support channel?04:45
fyrestrtrDaneeBoy: yes04:46
thoreauputicDaneeBoy: yes04:46
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arrickproc on /proc type proc (rw)04:46
arricksysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)04:46
arrickdevpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)04:46
arrickusbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)04:46
arricktmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (ro)04:46
DaneeBoyThanks. Can anyone point to a guide to update to Dapper?04:46
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tonyyarussofyrestrtr: Ah.  Can't help you there myself unfortunately, but the ThinkWiki seems to know all.04:46
arricksorry, I wanted that to all go to gnomefreak04:46
arricksorry guys04:46
thoreauputicarrick: you know better than to paste by now04:46
fyrestrtrtonyyarusso: yeah that's where I got that info. Nice resource.04:46
tonyyarussoarrick: I've done the same.  /msg only does the first line.04:46
tonyyarussofyrestrtr: Definitely.04:46
thoreauputicarrick: use /query <nick>04:47
thoreauputicarrick: then output the stuff04:47
fyrestrtrarrick: use #paste04:47
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PreZWorkhum - there is no APT package for vmware workstation?04:47
thoreauputicor #flood04:47
gnomefreaki got some of it ;)04:47
gnomefreaklol04:47
fyrestrtrah yeah #flood that's what I was thinking.04:47
fyrestrtror pastebin.com04:47
thoreauputicPreZWork: vmware is not open source04:47
arrickok thanks04:48
fyrestrtrPreZWork: you can download the linux version from vmware.com -- I had it running once (not on ubuntu)04:48
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fyrestrtra *trial* version04:48
gnomefreakarrick: im not real sure04:48
PreZWorkthoreauputic: *sigh* so ubunto DOES follow debian in that 'if its not open source, it doesnt get packaged'?04:48
fyrestrtrPreZWork: open source != free04:49
tonyyarussoPreZWork: Um, if you can't have the source, how would you package it?04:49
PreZWorkfyrestrtr: I realise that, I have a license for vmware workstation04:49
thoreauputicPreZWork: basically yes04:49
j0hannesFrogzoo, fyrestrtr: the howto says i don't need fglrx04:49
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arrickgnomefreak, tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755) shows up on all my systems04:49
PreZWorktonyyarusso: so you don't have to download it and install it, you could just apt-get it and have it automatically update, like anything else when a new version comes out04:49
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deathscytheh64how do you get a pcmcia card working in breezy when lights aren't coming on the card?04:49
PreZWorksaving me from having to keep checking the main website to see if there is a new version and then install it myself manually04:49
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thoreauputicPreZWork: there are legal issues you seem to be ignoring04:50
waylandbillI got an unmet dependency for g++-4.0. I'm not sure how I fix this.04:50
tonyyarussoPreZWork: That's not possible for a proprietary product.04:50
gnomefreakarrick: i cant answer that because i have never had to mount anything manully04:50
PreZWorkthoreauputic: nope - you can download and install it all you want without legal issues - its just you're restricted to trial mode without a license.04:50
gnomefreakwaylandbill: sudo apt-get install build-essential04:50
fyrestrtrdeathscytheh64: check the output of dmesg when you insert it, see what it is recognized as. What kind of card is it?04:50
thoreauputicPreZWork: erm - you can't redistribute04:50
arrickoh ok04:50
tonyyarussoPreZWork: Bingo.  There's a legal difference between available and redistributable.04:51
PreZWorktonyyarusso: so you're saying if I have an nvidia or ATI card (or in my case, Matrox) I have to download and install the drivers (proprietary only) myself?04:51
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fyrestrtrPreZWork: you downloading != ubuntu distribution. Its the same with Java (the official Sun Java)04:51
deathscytheh64fyrestrtr: i woudn't've thought to do that, i'm really new to linux so i've been trying to follow along on the forums as best as i could04:51
Tomcat_And for Java it's the worst thing ever. :)04:51
fyrestrtrdeathscytheh64: no problem, what kind of card is it?04:51
tonyyarussoPreZWork: If you want the latest ones.  The ati driver does get packaged by Seveas, but will be a couple sub-versions behind the latest official.04:51
Tomcat_They want Java on every machine? They should make the license better. :o04:51
PreZWorkI guess Gentoo gets around it by making the ebuild download direct from the manufacturer's website then ... hrm.04:51
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fyrestrtrPreZWork: aye :)04:52
PreZWorkhow frustrating.04:52
Tomcat_PreZWork: Possible for Ubuntu as well... if somebody wants to do the work.04:52
deathscytheh64fyrestrtr: belkin f5d7011 pcmcia card that uses the broadcom chipset from what i read04:52
fyrestrtrPreZWork: no, it doesn't do that, it puts a fetch restriction -- which means YOU have to go and download it.04:52
b0sehey guys... just wondering, if i'm compiling a vanilla kernel with a few special patches, do i want to use make-kpkg with kernel_headers or modules_image or both?04:52
PreZWorkthat was one of the things I liked about portage, I didn't need to check to see if vmware was updated, it did it for me.04:52
fyrestrtrPreZWork: once you get it, then portage will install it for you. The F flag from emerge will tell you that.04:52
PreZWorkfyrestrtr: not for vmware it didn't - its a simple FTP - for Java it did though (because you have to click-through Sun's license)04:53
fyrestrtrdeathscytheh64: oh its a wireless card, hrmm ... have you tried on the livecd? did it work then?04:53
PreZWorkhum04:53
piphello!I need help04:54
pipHello04:54
Seveastonyyarusso, one sub version to be exact04:54
deathscytheh64fyrestrtr: I bought the card after installing ubuntu on the system04:54
fyrestrtrdeathscytheh64: hrmm, okay.04:54
pipDoes rose.exe virus hurt my ubuntu?04:54
deathscytheh64fyrestrtr: heh i thought it would work right out of the box04:54
fyrestrtrdeathscytheh64: if you give me about ... 4 hours, I will have a better answer for you (that's how long it will take to rebuild my laptop) :P04:54
b0sepip, almost deffinately not04:55
fyrestrtrdeathscytheh64: well first thing we have to make sure is that its being detected.04:55
b0sepip: rose.exe sounds like it's a windows virus... as long as it's in the PE (portable executable) format, it can not harm you ubuntu box04:55
fyrestrtrdeathscytheh64: okay do this04:56
PreZWorkSo the latest version of ubuntu is 5.10? I thought I saw something about 6.06 being released.04:56
gnomefreakPreZWork: in june04:56
Plitskinwhich file can I download so I won't have to export all the time?04:56
fyrestrtrdeathscytheh64: take the card out, plug it in. Then, open a terminal window and type tail /var/log/messages -- and then go to pastebin.com and paste the results there.04:56
Plitskinsorry04:56
Plitskinwhich file can I edit so I don't have to do export all the time?04:57
PreZWorkheh, of course - version is (year-2000).(month) ...04:57
fyrestrtrPreZWork: --> #ubuntu+104:57
PreZWorkclever .. ;)04:57
deathscytheh64fyrestrtr: alright, working04:57
PreZWork#ubuntu+1?04:57
fyrestrtryeah04:57
gnomefreakfyrestrtr: hes not on dapper im assuming by his question hes on breezy04:57
fyrestrtr!tell PreZWork about Dapper04:58
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tonyyarussoSeveas: Ah, thanks for the correction.04:58
btaylor5619Can someone help me with an issue I am having?04:58
fyrestrtrdeathscytheh64: working?04:58
fyrestrtrdeathscytheh64: GREAT!04:58
gnomefreakbtaylor5619: only if you tell us what the issue is?04:58
deathscytheh64fyrestrtr: heh thats a nifty website, but yea not sure what all that means04:59
btaylor5619I want to set my monitor resolution to 1024x768, but I am only allowed between choices of 640x480 or 800x600.  What's up with that?04:59
PreZWorkgnomefreak: actually, I'm on Gentoo, and considering Ubuntu04:59
gnomefreakPreZWork: oh04:59
arrickAnyone: please check out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12548 and let me know what you think, I'll be back in about 10 minutes for answers.04:59
gnomefreakubotu tell btaylor5619 -about fixres04:59
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pipb0se,thank you05:00
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PreZWorkhow does ubuntu handle updated config files with an update?05:02
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jcoironHi05:02
Chris_Tuckerer05:02
braskoanyone know how to disable md5 passwords on ubuntu?05:03
Chris_Tuckercan anyone see this? my router plug just came out05:03
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_jasonChris_Tucker: yes05:03
PreZWorkie. if I have modified a config file and update a package, and that package has new config options or something, how does ubuntu handle it?05:03
afiefbrasko: why would you want to do that?05:03
Sp4rKyi'm sorry to disturb you again , but i still no have a working swsusp2 with fb05:03
Chris_Tuckerw00t! fast hands! managed to plug the router back in before it lost its wireless clients05:03
PreZWorkor even if I have not modified a config file and the format or contents of the config file are updated?05:03
Chris_Tuckerthanks _jason05:03
braskowell, I installed the NIS server05:04
braskoand I need the solaris NIS clients to work with it05:04
Sp4rKyso , does anyone use swsusp2 with graphical mode (fb) ?05:04
braskoand from what I can tell, md5 is my problem.05:04
braskoalthough not sure.05:04
gnomefreaklater all time for lunch than class tonight05:04
braskoI can run 'ypcat hosts' and stuff just fine.05:04
braskobut I can't log into the solaris machines.05:04
braskoso, I want to try disabling the md5 passwords05:04
braskohttp://groups.google.com/group/comp.unix.solaris/browse_thread/thread/ee651f24b5ae0ad9/f15b30cf40cd11b7?lnk=st&q=nis+login+solaris+client+linux+server&rnum=1&hl=en#f15b30cf40cd11b705:05
braskoThat's what this person had to do.05:05
braskoSo, anyone know how to disable md5 passwords on ubuntu?05:05
PreZWorkanyone? :)05:06
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B_166-ER-Xyesterday i passed like 5 hours here trying to figure out my dvd burner problem,  and i scraped 14 dvd's in total.. someone said i should just 'simulate' instead of real burning, but k3b is saying it does not supporte simulation with DVD-R ... ??05:06
j2daoshdamn there are alot of people in this one05:06
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iegarybrasko: dpkg-reconfigure passwd05:07
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mac_bobbyhello...is this an only english speaking channel or may I also speak german with you?05:07
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apokryphos!de05:07
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de05:07
mac_bobbyok, danke05:07
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braskoiegary: thanks.05:08
deathscytheh64fyrestrtr: able to make sense from the mess i pasted?05:08
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braskoiegary: hmmm, it didn't ask me about md505:09
braskoiegary: Do I have to update the verbosity somehow?05:09
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braskoiegary: it only asked me about the shadow passworsd05:09
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B_166-ER-XDVD drive wont burn DVD's. It was working before, it is no more, i buyed a new drive...same problem. Its having some problem with Filenames... if i remove the files with problems, of 'force input charset' it can burn...but i cannot acess the DVD data afterward. I AM completely out of ideas....please05:10
beerockxsI just got new eclipse packages via synaptic on dapper, and now eclipse does not start anymore05:10
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Sp4rKynobody05:10
beerockxswhen i remove the commandline options i give it via ~/eclipse/eclipserc, it works again05:10
isaola05:11
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isaalguien de espaa?05:11
Seveas!es05:11
beerockxsanyone have an idea?05:11
jadaz87!es05:11
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:11
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Sp4rKynobody here uses swsusp2 please :/05:11
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isa#ubuntu-es05:12
j0hannesFrogzoo,05:12
B_166-ER-XSeveas, if you have any idea, i'm completely clueless now.05:12
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j0hannesFrogzoo: the specifications only contain ATI Mobility Radeon M6-M05:12
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Xardasdoes here anyone use lilypond?05:13
arrickok guys Im back for answers05:13
j0hannesfyrestrtr: did you mean the model-number of the laptop or the videocard?05:14
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ompaulopme05:14
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arrickAnyone: please check out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12548 and let me know what you think, I'll be back in about 10 minutes for answers.05:17
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arrickbut im back now05:17
JoNTYDoGlo all can anyone help me with a usb wireless adapter?05:17
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stephen_bankswhat model is it?05:18
iegarybrasko: oops :) Okay, try removing 'md5' from the end of one of the lines in /etc/pam.d/common-password05:18
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frohwhat is the best method of installing dapper without burning a cdrom?05:18
arrick!wireless05:18
ubotu[wireless]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers05:18
ubuntu_hola05:18
iegarybrasko: but make sure to reset your password before logging out, so you set a new DES password05:18
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ubuntu_ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAOL?05:18
Seveas!es05:18
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:18
Swoop|Around.05:18
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jadaz87froh what do you mean upgrading?05:19
JoNTYDoGNetgear WG111v205:19
frohno, fresh install, i run a messed up warty (or was i t breezy?)05:19
jadaz87froh you can also order pressed cds05:20
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JoNTYDoGI am trying to run the ubuntu live cd and its not finding the adapter so I can't connect to the net with it05:20
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frohjadaz87: sure, or run to the store and get some, but i want to do it _now05:21
iegarybrasko: i.e. if you log out when your password entry still starts with $1$, you won't be able to log back in.05:21
gpledhas anyone tried snort on ubuntu?05:21
jadaz87froh i mean order Ubuntu Cds05:21
stephen_banksJoNTYDoG: try ndiswrapper with the config files from here: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#N05:21
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jadaz87JoNTYDoG you are going to have to use ndiswrapper05:21
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JoNTYDoGoh dear I am a complete noob with linux and just wanted to give it a go05:22
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btaylor5619Is there any way to clear the high scores of the games I play?05:22
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_jasonbtaylor5619: fine the file that stores them and delete them?05:23
NoUsebtaylor5619 it probably stores them in a hidden folder in your home directory05:23
MrPocketscan someone please help me with upgrading firefox05:23
jadaz87!ff1.505:23
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion05:23
MrPocketssudo apt-get upgrade firefox does not work05:23
btaylor5619ok... so... is there any way to get at those hidden files and folders?05:23
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arrickjadaz87, you beat me to it :^(::05:23
stephen_banksthe hidden files will be in .gnome2/gnometris for example05:23
apokryphosSeveas: could you unsubscribe me from the easybuntu mailing list?05:23
_jasonbtaylor5619: ls -a will list hidden files, or ctrl-h in nautilus05:23
jadaz87btaylor5619 go to Nautilus and Ctrl +H05:23
stephen_banksin nautilus, ctrl+h05:23
jadaz87arrick :-)05:24
arrickWho here is good with mount points and fstab?05:24
pablo_hi05:24
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btaylor5619ok, so in what folder are the high score files located?05:24
pablo_ive just added a new nic05:24
stephen_banksfor which game?05:24
pablo_but.. now.. how do i configure it?05:24
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jadaz87btaylor5619 it whould be .whateverthenameofthegame05:24
btaylor5619oh, say, "tali"05:25
Frogzoopablo_: copy the existing entry for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces05:25
j0hannesFrogzoo: still there?05:26
Frogzooj0hannes: no, just back, wassup?05:26
pablo_Frogzoo: why didnt the hotplug system did this for me?05:26
pablo_didnt this for me?05:26
Frogzoopablo_: is this usb/pcmcia?05:26
pablo_no its a pci ntwork interface card05:27
pablo_is that the reason?05:27
stephen_banksbtaylor: cant seem to find the tali scores directory, its not under /home/user/.tali or /home/user/gnome2/tali05:27
Frogzoopablo_: well there's your answer05:27
pablo_ok05:27
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dereks7 -!- Irssi: Changed to GIMPNet server irc.gnome.org05:27
pablo_so i copy what appears in /etc/network/interfaces05:27
j0hannesFrogzoo: the official site contains no more information about the video card05:27
pablo_add a section called.. eth1 adn its rwady?05:27
pablo_ready?05:28
Frogzoopablo_: just change eth0 for eth1 & the ips - you'll figure it out - man interfaces also05:28
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pablo_Frogzoo: many thanks!05:28
pablo_ill try it05:28
j0hannesFrogzoo: but due to its number (6000) the fg...driver wouldnt fit05:28
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felipe__Hello, my gdesklest keep crashing, has anybody else has the same problem?05:29
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svensketach zusammen05:29
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Frogzooj0hannes: ok, then I guess it's the ati driver, which doubtless you're already running?05:29
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arrick_jason, you know how to run a repair for ubuntu system?05:29
beerockxsis there an easy way to view a packages changelog?05:29
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_jasonarrick: repair what?05:29
Frogzoobeerockxs: probly /usr/share/docs/pkg05:29
thoreauputicfelipe__: long time since I tried gdesklets, but at the time they wanted to eat my CPU - maybe they are still unstable05:30
gasherhello guys05:30
we2bycan I install ubuntu 32bit on amd 64?05:30
thoreauputicwe2by: yes05:30
arrick_jason, Lib modules got borked while womeone was instlling programs manually05:30
Frogzoowe2by: you're best to install the 686 kernel actually05:30
JinkgunsI have a wireless laptop that is currently unplug from a ethernet network, it was also configured for wireless, it has hanged at "waiting for network interfaces to go up..." during start up05:30
baconbaconshort answer yes, long answer why05:30
Jinkgunswhat should I do?05:30
beerockxsFrogzoo, some GUI for that available, like the one in update-notifier?05:30
arrick_jason, while under root05:31
_jasonarrick: you could try reinstalling the packages that provide those libs05:31
we2byI hard alot ppl say there is no big difference between 32bit or ubuntu amd 64 regarding to performance05:31
Frogzoobeerockxs: no, there'll be a directory with the package docs, & if you're lucky, the README will have a change log05:31
we2byheard*05:31
arrick_jason, ok thank05:31
felipe__thoreauputic, The don't use much of my cpu, and I kind of got used to them and I feel naked without gdesklets :(05:31
mjrwe2by, the difference shouldn't be very noticable, unless you do a lot of computation-intensive stuff (like encoding video or something)05:32
Frogzoowe2by: but a big difference in support/stability - go 3205:32
j0hannesFrogzoo: i can't remove it, so i think it isn't installed05:32
thoreauputicfelipe__: ah OK - well I guess they have improved :)05:32
arrick_jason, he got this error "/lib/mod... when booting it said unable to open for write data system read only"05:32
gashermy ath0 is download05:32
Frogzoo!tell j0hannes about ati05:32
we2byok05:32
Frogzooj0hannes: pm from ubotu should work05:32
baconbaconwe2by: I think some binary/prop packages wouldnt work05:32
gasheri have tried dmesg but my atho is not recognised05:33
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we2byok, then I will put ubuntu 32bit on my amd 6405:33
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j0hannesFrogzoo: ok, thanks. i will try it05:33
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pablo_i want to install opera browser, is there any way to install from repositories? or i need to download it from opera web site?05:34
tarvidwhat do i need to add to ubuntu server do run remote X?05:34
felipe__thoreauputic, yup05:34
we2bycan u install the latest gnome version on ubuntu 5.10??05:34
green_earzgasher: can you see the ether card info with the command lspci -v05:34
Frogzoowe2by: not recommended, no05:34
gasheri did tht but device error05:34
thoreauputicwe2by: probably, with difficulty - but why not use dapper ?05:34
tarvidi installed xserver-xorg05:34
MrPocketshow do i change the directory?05:35
we2byisn't dapper still a test release?05:35
Frogzoogasher: 'sudo apt-get linux-image-686'    should install the latest 32 686 kernel r u05:35
thoreauputicwe2by: until June 1, yes05:35
tarvidand am getting the error Error: Unable to initialize gtk, is DISPLAY set properly?05:35
MrPocketsi downloaded the firefox package, and dont know how to change the Directory to where it is05:35
we2byDapper is unstable. rgiht?05:35
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_jasonMrPockets: cd /path/to/directory05:35
thoreauputicwe2by: for some value of "unstable"05:35
FrogzooMrPockets: cd ? will change your pwd05:35
thoreauputicwe2by: a lot of people are running it now05:35
Frogzoowe2by: correct05:35
we2byI already burnt the 5.10 cd05:36
MrPockets_jason, thats what i did but it said Bash:no such file or directory05:36
Frogzoothoreauputic: a lot of people are trialling a beta distro05:36
_jasonMrPockets: where is the file?05:36
MrPocketsdesktop05:36
we2bywhat's new in dapper? any link?05:36
MrPocketsi know the directorys right cause i dragged the folder into it05:36
Frogzoo!dapper05:36
thoreauputicFrogzoo: erm yes - your point?05:36
_jasonMrPockets: cd ~/Desktop, with a capital D05:36
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)05:36
arrickIs there a way to perform a repair/reinstall of Ubuntu without reformatting?05:36
Frogzoothoreauputic: if we recommend people try dapper, they'll be back here when it breaks05:37
MrPocketsno such file or directory05:37
j0hannesFrogzoo: my Xorg.0.log says: (II) ATI: ATI driver (version 6.5.7) for chipsets: ati, ativga05:37
thoreauputicarrick: you can try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a followed by sudo apt-get -f install05:37
thoreauputicarrick: might not help though in your situation05:37
FirstLitearrick: If the system is unbootable you can try booting off a livecd, mounting the corrupted filesystem on /mnt, and forcing a reinstall of the kernel-image package (or whatever) with dpkg --root=/mnt05:37
MrPocketsAHHAH05:37
MrPocketsgot it05:37
arrickthanks thoreauputic05:38
thoreauputicFrogzoo: I didn't recommend it - he wanted the latest gnome05:38
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gasherstill give me problem05:38
zipper!nvtv05:38
ubotuzipper: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:38
thoreauputicFrogzoo: and please - I am aware of the issues - I've been a regular in this chan since 200405:38
we2byany one using dapper test 6?05:38
baconbaconwe2by: #ubuntu+105:39
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gasherit oke for the day guys i am off05:39
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we2byI'm gonna install ubuntu 5.10 now :)05:39
ejofeethe small pc (computer case) speaker is /dev/?05:39
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thoreauputicFrogzoo: other point - if people ask dapper questions here, refer them to #ubuntu+105:40
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Frogzoowe2by: for dapper discussion -> #ubuntu+105:40
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Frogzoothoreauputic: natch05:40
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ompaulFrogzoo, and edgy eft :-05:41
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randyHey all.05:41
arrickhey thoreauputic /var/run/sudo/agliv5/tty1: read-only file system, help pwease05:41
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ompauledgy eft :-)   -> ubuntu+1 cos I sure as whats it am not setting up ubuntu+ two05:41
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thoreauputicarrick: did you try the live CD suggestion I made?05:42
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fyrestrtrhey, is there any application for linux that allows voice chatting over msn/05:42
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Frogzooompaul: is that official then? edgy?05:42
ompaulyeap05:42
renop!resolution05:42
ubotuit has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:42
thoreauputicFrogzoo: yes05:42
ompaulabout 4 hours ago05:42
patrick52222wat do i use to extract my .rar files05:42
Frogzoothe big news breaks here first lol05:42
fyrestrtrpatrick52222: unrar05:42
thoreauputicpatrick52222: unrar or unrar-nonfree05:42
randyI just installed dapper from yesterdays daily build and I can no longer printer to my printer on a windows box. The printer just goes to pause after I send a file???  Anyone else?05:42
kickfaccedoes anyone know why when i play games sometimes my monitor just goes black like 10 - 15 mins in the game and goes into power save?05:42
arrickI though that FirstLite made that thoreauputic05:42
arricknope05:42
naliothrandy: join #ubuntu+1 for dapper discussion05:43
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Frogzooanyone notice that the wiki is out to lunch?05:43
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FirstLitearrick: I think there's actually a 'rescue' mode in the regular (non-Live) install CD too.  Boot from CD and type 'rescue' at the boot: prompt.05:44
thoreauputicFrogzoo: interesting - at least it would be temporary: the forums seem to be permanently out to lunch05:44
arricktry that05:44
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arrickaorry, wrong channel05:44
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Frogzooj0hannes: If the wiki was up I could tell you if that was the latest, but it is most likely, or apt would have updated it05:45
ompaulthoreauputic, have a nice cup of tea, lets never forget post number, $whatsit?05:46
kickfacceanyone have any ideas at all why my monitor would go into power save 10-15 mins into gameplay?05:46
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thoreauputicompaul: ?05:46
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ompaulthoreauputic, pm05:46
thoreauputick05:46
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sergio__hola05:47
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flub_any reason why i can't seem to download from any mirror?05:47
Frogzooflub_: it happens05:48
beerockxsservers are down for a few minutes05:48
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flub_no seriously, is there a know problem or so?  eta of solution? anything?05:48
renopanyone else having problems connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com ?05:48
flub_renop: yep05:49
ompaulflub_, no there is not, I am currently downloading a full CD from one location05:49
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Frogzooj0hannes: you might be able to get a more recent ATI driver by going to ATI's site, but I'd advise against it unless you're fairly experienced05:49
Xana!nvidia05:49
ubotuit has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736805:49
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pablo_hi i need to add a nic05:50
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j0hannesFrogzoo: i'm trying to install the driver, but security.ubuntu.com seems to be down05:50
pablo_ive installed it05:50
flub_ompaul: which mirror?  i could try that one too05:50
thoreauputicgb.archive.ubuntu.com05:50
thoreauputic is not pingable - don't know more than that05:50
pablo_but doesnt work :(05:50
Frogzoopablo_: how'd you make out with interfaces?05:50
ompaulie.archive.ubuntu.com05:50
ompaulflub_, ^^05:50
ompaulpablo_, system administration networking if it is a normal nic05:51
arrickflub_, ie sources never go down, even when everything else is05:51
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Xana!nvidia05:51
ubotumethinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736805:51
thoreauputicarrick: au seems very reliable too (I'm in .au)05:51
Xanawiki site down?05:52
FrogzooXana: seems so05:52
thoreauputicus is the one that seems to have constant problems05:52
arrickthoreauputic, yeah thts a good one too05:52
thoreauputicXana: I believe the wiki and the forums are down05:52
Xanathanks05:52
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arrickyep, thats couse the us ones seem to like networking with XP05:52
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Frogzoopablo_: did you edit the interfaces file?05:53
arrickhey thoreauputic what is debconf?05:53
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flub_hmm, ie seems to stall too05:53
enkravHello, I have a pdf document (of A4 pages) and want to print it with 2 pages shrunk by 50% on one A4, how can I do it?05:53
arrickflub_, is you dns working properly?05:53
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MrPocketsfuck, what was the website ya'll gave me a few min ago to upgrade Firefox?05:53
thoreauputicarrick: the dpkg configuration tools that ask impossible questions ;)05:54
Frogzoo!ff1.505:54
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion05:54
MrPocketstnks05:54
thoreauputicMrPockets: language05:54
arrickoh ok05:54
pablo_ompaul: the nic doesnt appear in that gui05:54
MrPocketssry05:54
flub_is there a massive update and are the servers overloaded like the last X update in debian?05:54
pablo_Frogzoo: yes i did05:54
arrickthoreauputic, thats the only thing that didnt go through on the first command05:54
flub_arrick: afaik yes, everything else works05:54
thoreauputicarrick: ah05:54
renopsecurity.ubuntu.com is down as well05:54
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Frogzoopablo_: now 'sudo ifup eth1'05:54
ompaulPablo,05:54
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Kyynara_is ubuntu.com down?05:54
thoreauputicarrick: have you tried  sudo apt-get -f install ?05:54
Kyynara_or is it just me :)05:55
ompaulKyynara_, its not just you05:55
CoOlGhOsTanyone walked down the path: mandriva/mandrake -> ubuntu ???05:55
Kyynara_ok05:55
thoreauputicCoOlGhOsT: via debian, long ago05:55
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arrickthoreauputic, failed05:55
FrogzooKyynara_: wiki & forums so far - the us repos too maybe05:55
thoreauputicmandrake 9 > debian > ubuntu05:55
pablo_Frogzoo: it returns an error05:55
ompaulCoOlGhOsT, with some other versions in between as thoreauputic said via debian, except in my case it was via suse via debian05:55
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Frogzoopablo_: progress - what's the error?05:56
pablo_it says error while getting inteface flags05:56
CoOlGhOsTthoreauputic: ok... im contemplating doing it. been a faithful mdk/mdv user for 6 years now05:56
thoreauputicarrick: if debconf is stuffed, you have problems, Houston05:56
Frogzoopablo_: I'm guessing a typo in your edis05:56
Frogzoopablo_: I'm guessing a typo in your edits05:56
arrickthoreauputic, you were helping who I am helping now05:56
thoreauputicCoOlGhOsT: Ubuntu is way better IMO05:56
renopseeing as i'm stuck in a console and can't install links2 or elinks, ill ask here. anyone know to to change the boot up console resolution? in other distros you can append a video parameter to the kernel line in grub, can this be done with ubuntu also?05:56
CoOlGhOsTthoreauputic: care to elaborate?05:56
arrickand now when I ask the questions you are more able to understand them I thinkg05:56
arrickhaha05:56
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thoreauputicCoOlGhOsT: well it's been a while - but I prefer apt to urpmi05:57
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energeekHi there, I am having problems booting into ubuntu05:57
energeekI have suse 10 installed and ubuntu on /dev/hdd405:57
ompaulCoOlGhOsT, so you want to compare a single apple, to a world class orchard :-)05:57
thoreauputicCoOlGhOsT: mandrake is a good distro though - I'm not criticising it05:57
pablo_Frogzoo: this is what i added to interfaces file05:57
energeekthe bootloader is suse's grub so i added the following lines to suse's menu.lst05:58
Frogzoorenop: you need to pass the kernel a vga=### param, but the ### is quite specific, try 792 for 1024x76805:58
CoOlGhOsTthoreauputic: hehe.. i heard that before...05:58
pablo_below eth0 section05:58
Frogzoopablo_: pastebin05:58
pablo_iface eth1 inet static05:58
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energeekroot (hd0,3)05:58
energeekkernel /vmlinuz05:58
energeeki mean05:58
pablo_address 192.168.0.105:58
grogoreohi05:58
Frogzoopablo_: pastebin please05:58
energeekkernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hdd405:58
grogoreohow can I set a unset the enviroment variable SESSION_MANAGER?05:58
thoreauputicCoOlGhOsT: once you get the hang of apt, you don't want to go back05:58
energeekbut it doesn't boot05:58
CoOlGhOsTompaul: hehe... that would be the winders - linux comparison05:58
renopok, thanks frogzoo05:58
pablo_sorry im new to this how do i paste bin?05:58
Frogzoo!pastebin05:59
ubotuhmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126905:59
ompaulCoOlGhOsT, so step up again, its a order of magnitude better05:59
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CoOlGhOsTthoreauputic: a distro is so much more than just the packaging tools dont ya think?05:59
Frogzoopablo_: post the interfaces file, then post the url back here05:59
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CoOlGhOsTompaul: what makes ubuntu better you think?05:59
thoreauputicCoOlGhOsT: sure - but dpkg/apt do much more than packaging05:59
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ompaulCoOlGhOsT, its the ui the community packaging the feel good factor05:59
Kamping_Kaiserit makes you coffee and generates cows ;)05:59
arrick!enter06:00
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.06:00
CoOlGhOsTthoreauputic: true... but i was more thinking about userfriendly hardware assiatance tools for example06:00
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doktoreashi guys!06:00
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thoreauputicCoOlGhOsT: in any case, Ubuntu is just a very nice system - I used debian for several years but I now prefer Ubuntu06:00
virus_who can help me to mount windows partitions...06:00
CoOlGhOsTompaul: when did u use mandrake/mandriva last?06:00
virus_?06:00
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virus_I cannot see the files...06:00
ompaul2002/306:01
thoreauputicCoOlGhOsT: Ubuntu has excellent hardware detection in general06:01
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doktoreasa develop question... how ubuntu recognize audio cards?06:01
msoulhello, I'm having a problem with Xorg06:01
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CoOlGhOsTthoreauputic: yeah i checking out ubuntu in a virtual environment now.. and im impressed06:01
msouljust installed ubuntu on my toshiba laptop06:01
thoreauputic!mountwindows06:01
ubotuDownload and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions06:01
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ompaulCoOlGhOsT, I was trying to use it in a customer support situation and it hurt me badly so I walked away from it06:01
CoOlGhOsThence the reason for wanting to migrate06:01
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ubuntu_!!!06:01
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ubuntu_06:01
Frogzoomsoul: just state your problem06:01
pablo_file:///etc/network/interfaces06:01
msoulI just did Frogzoo06:01
virus_I`ve done that thoreauputic...06:02
CoOlGhOsTompaul: i see06:02
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Frogzoo!ask06:02
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.06:02
virus_But I cannot see the files....06:02
thoreauputicvirus_: have you looked in Computer, or /media ?06:02
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virus_Thoreauputic : Yes06:03
vahLIShello for all!06:03
arrick!tell virus_ about ntfs06:03
pablo_Frogzoo: sorry how do i post the interfaces file?06:03
ompaulCoOlGhOsT, we had a  need for software and it was rather hard to get the new versions source we ended up with some strange hacks going on, so to rescue the customer I had to install FreeBSD and that shattered my afair with Mandrake, so  then I moved to SuSE and soon after to Debian06:03
Frogzoopablo_: see ubotus mention of pastebin further up the page? past the interfaces file at that site, then post the resulting url back here06:04
virus_arrick: I`ve Done Already...all the steps from tutorials...06:04
virus_all 3 Tutorials...06:04
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vahLIS06:04
CoOlGhOsTompaul: a situation like that can make anyone slightly annoyed.06:05
arrickok, now you need to change the permissions for your fstab then, and then your done06:05
C-O-L-TWhen can I donwload the Beta Ubuntu? at night can I find at mirrors?06:05
virus_I am on this part : If no files are found, please see XChatHowto and join #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net.06:05
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thoreauputicvahLIS: english here, please06:05
vahLISok06:05
arrickhaha06:05
arrickok hang on06:05
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CoOlGhOsTanyhoo... thanks for your input. gotta go make dinner. lata06:05
FrogzooC-O-L-T: any time, except when the servers are down, which isn't so often06:05
CoOlGhOsTexit06:06
CoOlGhOsTbah06:06
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CoOlGhOsThehe06:06
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C-O-L-TFrogzoo: but when will be posted teh ubuntu beta?06:06
FlannelKingC-O-L-T: 20th06:06
scouthey i have a vanilla install of ubuntu from cd...when i go to add package it asks for root password, i supply it, then it fails saying Failed to run /usr/bin/gnome-app-install as user root:06:06
scout Wrong password.06:06
pablo_Frogzoo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1255206:06
felipe__Im havin trouble downloading from the repos, is it just me or theres a problem with the repos?06:06
scoutits the righ password06:06
FrogzooC-O-L-T: you can get flight 6 atm, I believe or 7 sometime real soon06:06
thoreauputic!tell scout about root06:06
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scouthehe i understand root :P06:07
flub_felipe__: the repos06:07
thoreauputicscout: it wants your "sudo" pasword06:07
beastyok wish me luck guys06:07
beastyi just wrote my 14th iso06:07
scoutthanks thore06:07
thoreauputicscout: ie. your user password06:07
fliegenderfrosch#ubuntu-offtopic06:07
felipe__flub_, Ok, thanks06:07
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Frogzooscout: it's not asking for root passwd, it's asking for _your_ password, that's how sudo works06:07
C-O-L-TFrogzoo: I am talking here about flight 7, as far as I know Flight 7 will be avaible 20th of April, this means that after 12:00 I can get it on ubuntu servers right?06:07
JustinLynnIs the ubuntu website/archive down?06:07
thoreauputicscout: so read about root as I suggested - you are used to a different model06:08
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fliegenderfroschC-O-L-T, i think the next relesase will be the beta06:08
FlannelKingC-O-L-T: there will be an announcement, I don't think it's quite that regimented06:08
FrogzooC-O-L-T: I don't know - but #ubuntu+1 probly will06:08
flub_JustinLynn: it seems so06:08
C-O-L-TFrogzoo: ok I will ask tehre06:08
C-O-L-TFrogzoo: tried to reach ubuntu webpage now to look for release schedule but the page is down06:09
JustinLynnflub_> pitty but thanks, I guess the problem isn't at my end then.06:09
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FlannelKingC-O-L-T: the beta is on the 20th06:09
FrogzooPablo: just getting to it...06:09
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seraphgood evening06:10
WK|Dutchy<3 gaim, "Has you: No" is an easy way to see who you can remove from your list :)06:10
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seraphwhen installing ubuntu do I need to create a swap partition?06:10
JustinLynnflub_> seems to be comming back online :)06:10
waylandbillseraph, no, but it's recommended.06:10
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seraphwaylandbill: no way to utilise a swap file instead/06:10
flub_JustinLynn: that'd be good news06:10
FrogzooPablo: that gateway is suspect - it's the same IP as the nic    - it's a problem, not necessarily the problem06:11
C-O-L-TFlannelKing: that means tomorrow right?06:11
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seraphI feel reluctant to hand over a gig and a halfo f space (the recommended amount) permanently06:11
arrickok, Ill be bakc in about 2 1/2 hours guys, have fun06:11
virus_arrick still there?06:11
virus_with the help?06:11
virus_:)06:11
arrickfor a second virus_06:11
seraphwaylandbill: are we still doing 1.5x the amount of ram?06:11
arrickI gotta get to class, let me look up the fstab format right quick06:12
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waylandbillseraph, don't know of a swap 'file' ... normally it's a swap partition.06:12
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seraphalright06:12
seraphso suggested size?06:12
FrogzooPablo: either change the gateway or delete that line, & try again 'sudo ifup eth1'06:12
thoreauputicseraph: if you have a gig of ram, 512MB is probably plenty06:12
Orunitiawhy isn't flashplugin-nonfree showing up when I try to install? I have multiverse enabled =\06:12
seraph(btw, I've been on Linux about three years, just checking the swap issue and whether it has changed any recently)06:12
seraphthoreauputic: I do some amount of development work06:13
seraphand some java stuff06:13
scoutNext question: I click on Add Packages...it aks for sudo password, i supply it, then nothing happens....06:13
Frogzooseraph: this a lappie? do you intend to hibernate?06:13
seraphnope06:13
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seraphno intention of hibernating06:13
thoreauputicseraph: well, work out what your likely max is, and decide accordingly06:13
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seraphugh06:13
seraphyeah this is why I came here06:13
thoreauputicie add you ram and your swap06:13
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j0hannesFrogzoo: back again. can you tell me how to find out, which driver i'm using?06:14
seraphI had 512 and it wasn't enough the last time06:14
thoreauputic*your06:14
seraphthink I'll up it to a gig06:14
Frogzooseraph: what do you use the machine for, & how much installed ram?06:14
seraphthat should be plenty06:14
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thoreauputicseraph: sounds like a plan06:14
seraphFrogzoo: 512MB RAM06:14
arrickvirus_, you need to change the uid:username guid:usename, and the rest someone in here can help you with, ask how to make yourself own the drive in fstab06:14
Frogzooj0hannes: you had it b4, from the xorg.log06:14
seraphI use it as a desktop, a LAMP dev box, as well as planned Java work06:14
arrickI gotta fun, if you need help in about 2 1/2 hours I'll be back06:14
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Frogzooseraph: well try 512meg & see if that's enough for your use06:15
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seraphbah06:15
seraphmight as well make it a gig06:15
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scoutwhat log file can i look at for why the Add Applications is failing? (nothing pops up)06:15
seraphno point stinging and then regretting it later06:15
virus_arrick to change uid?06:15
seraph512 MB won't be missed06:15
seraphlaters06:15
virus_how?06:15
Frogzooseraph: there you go, but you can always add a swap file later06:15
j0hannesFrogzoo: i really don't know if this is the driver from ubuntu or from ati06:15
fyrestrtrscout: try running the command from the prompt06:16
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arrickvirus_, you gotta make yourself owner of the drive, at this point, and put your username in the username sections06:16
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scoutfyrestrtr:  /usr/bin/gnome-app-install06:16
scoutTraceback (most recent call last):06:16
scout  File "/usr/bin/gnome-app-install", line 22, in ?06:16
scout    import gtk, gtk.glade06:16
scout  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py", line 37, in ?    from _gtk import *06:16
scoutRuntimeError: could not open display06:16
j0hannesFrogzoo: on one of the sites you gave me there was a hint not to use any other than the official driver06:16
fyrestrtrscout: ah .. yes, that's a bit annoying now isn't it lol06:17
scouthehe yea06:17
virus_arrick : Now I am really Puzzled06:17
fyrestrtrwhat app is it?06:17
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scout"Add Applications" in the menu06:17
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scoutdefault x86 install06:17
Rawplayerhi06:17
fyrestrtrno I meant, what application are you trying to 'add'06:17
Rawplayeranyone of you guys using a bluetooth headset for voip?06:17
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scoutfyrestrtr: well like to see the package manager has in it, but definately need to install openldap, apache, mod_php06:18
pablo_Frogzoo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1255306:18
j0hannesFrogzoo: is there a way to reset the whole system without reinstalling?06:18
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fyrestrtrscout: you can install all that from synaptic06:18
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scoutfyrestrtr: so synaptic is ubuntu's package manager? SWEET06:19
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Frogzooj0hannes: dpkg -l xserver-xorg-driver-ati        & I'm guessin it's 6.8.2.7706:19
scout<-- not used to using GUI and gnome :P06:19
fyrestrtrscout: synaptic is just a front end for apt-get, which is what ubuntu uses since its based off of debian. apt-get is the debian package management system.06:19
saik0Is there a way to disable the gksu fade effect?06:19
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scoutfyrestrtr: thanks man, thats exactly what i needed to know ;)06:19
fyrestrtrscout: sudo apt-get install apache php openldap <-- this shouldn't blow up your computer ... much.06:19
j0hannesFrogzoo: it's 6.5.7.306:20
fyrestrtrscout: if it starts humping your cat, hey -- just read the standard disclaimer in the Windows EULA :P06:20
Surakquick question: where do I get daily live builds via rsync?06:20
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fyrestrtrSurak: sudo apt-get update06:20
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Frogzooj0hannes: well seems you're running the ATI driver - see if you have the original tar file lying about & run the uninstall, then 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-ati'06:21
scoutfyrestrtr: lol is there a search command to search for packages like gentoo's emerge -s?06:21
fyrestrtrSurak: or, from synaptic, choose refresh.06:21
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fyrestrtrscout: yes, sudo apt-cache search [....] 06:21
thoreauputicscout: apt-cache search06:21
Frogzoopablo_: is this nic the same make/model as the one already installed?06:21
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fyrestrtrscout: or, from synaptic ... err ... click on search :P06:21
thoreauputicthe sudo isn't required06:21
Surakfyrestrtr: I mean daily live build images. Iso files.06:21
fyrestrtrscout: and welcome -- I am also a gentoo user :)06:21
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scoutfyrestrtr: roger that, thanks man ;)06:21
fyrestrtrscout: I actually run a gentoo server.06:21
scoutfyrestrtr: yea i got gentoo installing on another computer now, and using this ubuntu for my ldap testing so i can get used to ubuntu...so tired of broken packages in gentoo :(06:22
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pablo_Frogzoo: no it isnt06:22
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fyrestrtrscout: I don't have that problem with gentoo -- I don't do ~x86 stuff though.06:22
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fyrestrtrscout: my gentoo server has a rediculous uptime ... like ... 90 days (before a power failure)06:22
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fyrestrtrand AMAZINGLY ENOUGH -- resierfs4 didn't crap out!06:23
msoulsorry, the problem is06:23
Frogzoopablo_: try 'ifconfig eth1 up'06:23
msoulI don't know what is the problem06:23
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msoulwhen I booted for the fisrt time06:23
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msoulall I see is a blackscreen so I had to ctrl+alt F1 to use the console mopde06:23
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msoulmode even06:23
fyrestrtrscout: pssst.. you should use esearch on gentoo ;)06:23
scoutfyrestrtr: heh after 2.5 years maintaining my gentoo desktop i cant even do simple gaim install without having to go back and fix 10 different errors...and apache config locations and changes has killed my servers to many times...buti still love gentoo.06:23
Frogzoomsoul: your best bet to get X working after a clean install is to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' & answer the questions, or just accept the defaults06:24
scouthehe ok i'll lookinto it :P06:24
msouland I honestly don't know what to do to solve this problem06:24
fyrestrtrscout: yeah, its a labor of love that Gentoo06:24
pablo_Frogzoo: error while getting interface flags06:24
scoutLOL06:24
scoutfyrestrtr: thanks again man :P06:24
msoulFrogzoo: I believe I accepted the defaults when I installed ubuntu, no?06:24
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pablo_Frogzoo: did you read the pstebin of my interfaces card?06:24
Frogzoopablo_: are you sure this nic has a working driver? (cos I'm guessing it's a driver problem) check /var/log/messages to see if the kernel picked it up06:25
msoulFrogzoo: I'll try that, bbs06:25
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Frogzoopablo_: yes, read it, now go look for errors in /var/log/messages about the card06:25
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thoreauputicguys, gentoo discussion is kind of off-topic for #ubuntu :)06:25
fyrestrtrlol I knew that was coming :P06:25
rooootdoes dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg change something other than xorg.conf? because i had problems after i ran it so i remove xorg.conf and started it from scratch. But for some reason it's still trying to use the frame buffer interface even after i recreated xorg.conf without framebuffer support, this leads me to believe, that dpkg-reconfigure changed other parts of the system as well. any suggestions?06:26
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fyrestrtrroooot: are you sure you changed the right xorg.conf? the log file should tell you which configuration file X is using.06:26
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fyrestrtrroooot: afaik, its just a way to reconfigure the conf file, nothing more -- but I may be wrong here.06:27
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Frogzooroooot: yep, replacing the backup xorg.conf has always worked for me06:27
rooootfyrestrtr: oh, i never considered it would be using anything other than /etc/xorg.conf. Is it possible it's not using that file?06:27
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roooot/etc/X11/xorg.conf*06:28
j0hannesFrogzoo: but how can the driver have become installed if i didn't do it? ubuntu wouldn't install an ati-driver, would it?06:28
fyrestrtrroooot: very possible, you can change the configuration file it uses by passing parameters to X. Best to check the log file, because in the first few lines it will tell you.06:28
Frogzooroooot: the only other place to look might be /boot/grub/menu.lst    but that's not touched by dpkg-reconfigure xser....06:28
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rooootok, thanks for help guys, ill investigate further06:29
scoutfyrestrtr: ugh...i run "synaptic" as root and get (synaptic:10585): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:06:29
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fyrestrtrscout: lol -- System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager06:29
fyrestrtrscout: its an X app06:29
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scoutyea doesnt work there either :( like my menu system is borked06:29
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pablo_Frogzoo: im reading.. but.. what sould i find there?06:30
scoutfyrestrtr: nothing comes up just like the "add application"06:30
fyrestrtrscout: hrmm, signs of deeper issues. Did you do anything exotic during the install? Ubuntu worked as advertised for me.06:30
pablo_Frogzoo: i says nothing clear about the new pci nic06:30
andre_hello06:30
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fyrestrtrscout: restart X ctrl+alt+backspace06:30
Frogzooj0hannes: right - this is a stock build, and you've changed nothing? also 'dpkg -l xserver-xorg-driver-ati'  says not installed?06:30
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scoutfyrestrtr: nope vanilla and this is the2nd one...i can do it again takes what 15 minutes?06:30
scoutfyrestrtr: k brb06:31
pablo_Frogzoo: ideas for patterns to look for in /var/log/messeges?06:31
fyrestrtrscout: lol yeah -- nice change from [that other distro we don't mention in here] 06:31
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Frogzoopablo_: something similiar to what 'lspci' reads for your nic06:31
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thoreauputicfyrestrtr: mention is fine - just not discuss at length :) I wouldn't discuss Ubuntu in #gento either :)06:32
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fyrestrtrthoreauputic: but they rhyme!06:32
thoreauputic#gentoo *06:32
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j0hannesFrogzoo: i haven't changed the drivers, just installed programs, dpkg says nothing installed after removing the driver with apt06:32
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pablo_i did vi /var/log/messages06:32
thoreauputicfyrestrtr: this is true!06:32
luis_#ubuntu on irc.freenode.net06:32
pablo_Frogzoo: then /eth106:32
scoutfyrestrtr: nope same thing :(06:32
pablo_and nothing appeard06:32
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Frogzoopablo_: what does lspci say the nic is? (hardware make/model)06:33
fyrestrtrhrmm -- try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org06:33
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j0hannesFrogzoo: after apt-get install it's still the same version: 6.5.7.306:33
fyrestrtrbrb06:33
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cesarbuen dia06:33
pablo_Frogzoo: i did lspci and the nic doenst apper tehre :(06:33
msoulFrogzoo: I honestly didn't get it, it's really a hard peice of hardware06:33
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pablo_Frogzoo: it shows me other devices but not the nic iv installed06:34
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j0hannesFrogzoo: in the config-menu i had to chose between two drivers: ati and fbdev06:35
pablo_Frogzoo: heres the output of lspci http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1255406:35
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j0hannesFrogzoo: i don't know if framebuffer with x is a good idea06:35
pablo_Frogzoo: as you see i have an intel mother, .. the nic ive installed is a cnet rtl8139 i think06:36
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slavikYo!!!!!06:36
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Frogzooj0hannes: did you restart X?06:37
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Frogzoopablo_: I suppose that "Ethernet controller: unknown device" isn't it?06:39
j0hannesFrogzoo: no, i'll be back06:39
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Frogzooj0hannes: just ati should be fine06:39
erUSULpablo_: try dmesg | grep eth to see if your card has been recogniced06:39
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bless_c'est francais ici ?06:40
slavikbless_: #ubuntu-fr06:40
FrogzooerUSUL: pablo_ lspci see the card as an intel nic, but can't identify it better than that06:40
bless_thx06:40
slaviknp06:40
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kickfaccecan someone tell me why my screen goes black after 10-15 mins while playing any 3d game? I'm under breezy06:41
Frogzoopablo_: or is that the onboard nic we're seeing there?06:41
FrdPrefctQuestion about scanning... Is there an app, pref KDE, that will auto-crop and straighten something I scanned?06:41
slavikkickfacce: are you using a keyboard to play?06:41
kickfacceslavik, no06:41
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kickfacceslavik, i mean yeah keyboard and mouse06:41
FrogzooFrdPrefct: best bet would be gimp - but as to auto straightening - that's a big ask06:41
slavikkickfacce: oh ... hmm, check the screensaver settings06:41
msoulcould anyone help me with the Xorg thingie06:41
kickfacceslavik i have it disabled06:42
sfgeaJFNBJVN06:42
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pablo_Frogzoo: i supose is the onboard nic06:42
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kickfacceslavik my monitor goes into "power save"06:42
Frogzoomsoul: no luck with dpkg-reconfigure ...etc06:42
slavikhmm06:42
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slavikkickfacce: is this a desktop or a laptop?06:42
FrdPrefctFrogzoo: autostraighten isn't a big deal... bu ti mean, in windows, when i use the HP crap... it'll crop off the empty space06:42
pablo_Frogzoo: this motejhr has an onboard intel nic06:42
msoulFrogzoo: yeah no luck06:42
kickfacceslavik, desktop06:42
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slavikdoes the video card get hot?06:42
kickfacceslavik, no its fine06:42
slavikmake sure that the fan is spinning if there is one06:43
kickfacceyeah it is06:43
slavikother than that, that's a weird issue you got.06:43
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kickfaccei have seen many other people having the same issues06:43
msoulFrogzoo: what should I do? :-)06:43
pablo_Frogzoo: i did dmesg|grep eth06:43
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Frogzoomsoul: define no luck - here this might help06:43
pablo_Frogzoo: and only the onboard card appeard06:43
Kr4zy4p3Hey...does anyone know where the Free CD's get shipped from ???06:43
Frogzoo!fixres06:43
ubotu[fixres]  Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:43
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slavikKr4zy4p3: no clue ...06:43
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erUSULKr4zy4p3: shipit.ubuntu.com iirc06:44
slavikKr4zy4p3: why not dl the ISO and burn it?06:44
msoulFrogzoo: well, it just no matter what I do I can't see anything when I reboot, all I see is a blank screen so I have to ctrl-alt-F106:44
slavikerUSUL: I think Kr4zy4p3 meant the physical place ...06:44
Kr4zy4p3yeah :p06:44
Frogzoomsoul: see ubotu's fixres url above - you might need to spec vertrefresh & horizsync for your monitor/resolution06:44
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Kr4zy4p3How's the Hardware supportwith Ubuntu ?06:45
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slavikKr4zy4p3: very good, I did have a quirk with hotplug though06:46
slaviksame with udev (on dapper livecd)06:46
slavikbut easily fixed06:46
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msoulFrogzoo: I could try that, the thing is that's the only laptop that I have at home06:46
msoulFrogzoo: could you tell me how can I set monitor resulotion?06:46
slavikmsoul: System -> Preferences -> Resolution06:47
Frogzoomsoul: it's in that link ubotu posted06:47
green_earzKr4zy4p3: run the ubuntu live cd on the machine and see what it picks up06:47
Frogzooslavik: no, it need edits to xorg.conf06:47
slavikoh06:47
Kr4zy4p3kool :)06:47
FrogzooPablo: if /var/log/messages doesn't see your card, and lspci doesn't see your card, there's not much I can do06:48
msoulFrogzoo: you know that I'm on console mode only06:48
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msoulit just makes it harder and harder with links06:49
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msoulor lynx whatever it is since all I see if I CTRL-ALT F7 == Blank screen06:49
msoulI see nothing06:49
msoulso it's all about the console mode06:49
mzuverinkWhat do I need to do to change my default video player from Xine to VLC?06:49
MrPocketswhat can i use to get images off a digital camara?06:50
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mobilenoodlecan someone help me with a dri/i915GM install on dapper?06:51
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Frogzoomsoul: to the "Monitor" section add these on two new lines "    HorizSync 30-67"   "    VertRefresh   30-60"     just be sure your monitor can handle those (on a lappie, shouldn't be a problem)  'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' & ctrl alt f7   & cross fingers06:52
green_earzpablo_: this link may be of help ? http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/    see if you can see the card there ?06:52
Frogzooshoot06:52
bolshHi06:52
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mobilenoodletrying to install dri common/i915 on a dell inspiron b13006:53
ConfidentiaLWhat is a good mail-server for ubuntu?06:53
bolshI just upgraded this laptop to Breezy yesterday, and I don't have any power management any more (if I understand correctly)06:53
FrogzooMrPockets: use import from 'gthumb'06:53
graftwhen I boot up, the HAL daemon takes a long time to start up (~50sec)... how do i figure out why this is?06:53
bolshAnyone having problems with suspend/resume on breezy?06:53
graftand what can i do about it?06:53
green_earzConfidentiaL: i would say postfix06:54
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Frogzoobolsh: does /proc/acpi   exist?06:54
procergsola06:54
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bolshFrogzoo: What creates it?06:54
Frogzoobolsh: acpi06:54
bolshchecking06:55
mobilenoodlelatest kernel modules - uname -r says 2.6.15-20-386 - but the dri installer doesn't seem to recognize /lib/modules/2.6.15-20-38606:56
bolshNo06:56
bolshapm is there06:56
bolshBut no acpi06:56
Frogzoomobilenoodle: for dapper support -> #ubuntu+106:56
mobilenoodleFrogzoo: thanks06:56
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bolshFrogzoo: Ah - did I say breezy? I meant dapper06:57
green_earzConfidentiaL: here a debain link for a postfix howto http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/  it may be of use to you ?06:57
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Frogzoobolsh: same deal -> #ubuntu+106:57
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bolshFrogzoo: Figured that out, thanks :)06:58
Frogzoocheers, have a good one06:58
bolshthank you06:58
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we2byhelo06:58
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we2bywhat do I install to compile stuffs?06:58
saifhello, i've browsed the web, and there are many places suggesting where to set permanaent env variables, what is the best?? if i want to add the var for all users?? /etc/environment?06:58
Frogsnoozebuild-essential06:59
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ConfidentiaLgreen_earz: how does it work? do I just use local user and use a mail adress like user@mydomain.com ?07:00
we2byLinux venus.cinaq.com 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux07:00
bolshFrogsnooze: what's a good time to get people in ubuntu+1?07:00
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Kr4zy4p3Just wondering...does Ubuntu have a Command line installer or a GUI installer ?07:00
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slavikKr4zy4p3: it's a "ncurses" installer (graphics from text)07:01
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Kr4zy4p3ah ok, kool :)07:02
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erUSULKr4zy4p3: it is a gui instaler ncurses based07:02
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jmoncayowhat is a describtor in c? could somebody explain it to me?07:02
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slavikdecriptor you mean?07:03
Kr4zy4p3ah ok, whats Gnome that ive heard of ?07:03
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slavikKr4zy4p3: Gnome is a desktop environment (the GUI to the OS)07:03
Kr4zy4p3kool, thanx :)07:04
tuvfirefox launches xine to play embedded media although i have mozilla-mplayer installed. how can i make it use mplayer instead of xine?07:04
jmoncayoslavik, well descriptor do you know what that is?07:04
slavikjmoncayo: what kind of descriptor? (what are you learning C?)07:05
slavika descriptor in C is usually a structure that describes something ...07:05
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slavikstructure == struct07:05
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jmoncayoslavik, yes its for c, trying to learn something about networkprogramming07:06
slavikahh, that is closer ...07:06
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slavikjmoncayo: for files, a file descriptor would contain info like size, whether it is a dir, when it was created, etc.07:06
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OrunitiaHow do I make it so the compiz desktop switcher cube thing stops switching when my cursor touches the edge of the screen?07:06
slavikfor network ... I dunno07:06
grafttuv, did you install mozilla-mplayer for firefox or just for mozilla?07:07
mlowei would like to become a developer, or tester, where do i start ?07:07
slavikOrunitia: please go to #ubuntu+1 for dapper support07:07
slavikmlowe: do you know C or C++?07:07
Orunitiaah, sorry07:07
slavikOrunitia: np07:07
mloweslavik, sure07:07
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slavikmlowe: for testing, just install things ...07:07
mloweslackern, perl also07:07
slavikfor devving, no clue :(07:07
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tuvgraft, i installed the package from synaptics.. that's it.. do i need to do anything else?07:07
slavikPERL OWNS!!!07:07
schtinky!tell schtinky about sudo07:07
jmoncayoslavik, yes i know smoething about c and c++, got it thanks07:07
jadaz87hello everyone i am sorry to announce that i might be going back to windows :-( to develop ubuntu07:08
slavikjmoncayo: np07:08
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slavikjadaz87: huh?07:08
tuvgraft, but where is the xine plugin coming from? which package?07:08
grafttuv: it's not a plugin, it's just launching an external program07:08
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green_earzConfidentiaL: have a look at the postfix site there is a very good doc section. the link for the howto i posted is for virtual mail hosting. the users do not have a system account they are all virtual accounts which is a lot better for security07:08
grafttuv: what's in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/?07:08
jadaz87slavik nevermind lol07:09
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tuvgraft, flash, java mplayer, totem07:09
AleXC_Hey,07:09
AleXC_I just added a WindowXP NTFS hard drive to my PC, but Ubuntu can't see it07:09
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grafttuv: or maybe /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins... not sure what breezy uses07:09
AleXC_How do I go about mounting the NTFS hard drive?07:09
tuvgraft, but it's /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox here07:09
we2byhow do I install the latest kernel+source to build modules?07:10
graftwhat about about:plugins?07:10
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grafttuv: um. where'd that totem plugin come from? i'd ditch that...07:10
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mloweAleXC_, mount -t ntfs /dev/ntfspartition /anemptydirecory07:10
LinuxBaHi all07:10
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AdmiralAHi, can anyone please tell me how the hell do I install deb packages?07:11
jadaz87!language07:11
ubotuPlease watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.07:11
tuvgraft, it belongs to totem-xine package07:11
AdmiralAoops, sorry07:11
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jadaz87AdmiralA sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb07:11
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grafttuv: yeah, i'd lose that... probably conflicting07:11
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matth-wHow do I change it from totem to flash for my firefox?07:11
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AdmiralAthank you jadaz87!07:11
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AdmiralAthanks a katrabazillion07:12
jadaz87AdmiralA you are most welcome07:12
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AleXC_mlowe: it says that HDA2 doesn't exist, i've tried all the HDA's but non ofthem work07:12
thoreauputicAleXC_: lower case07:13
thoreauputic/dev/hda207:13
AleXC_I did,07:13
schtinkyhi guys, I'm not understanding how sudo is just as secure as the traditional root user system, could someone enlighten me (and I've already read the sudo page at ubuntulinux...)07:13
slavikschtinky: sudo login will time out in 5 minutes I believe07:13
jmoncayowhat is a POSIX?07:13
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slavikjmoncayo: as standard for OS interface07:14
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redguyschtinky: in fact it's more secure07:14
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redguyschtinky: you can set up sudo so that it logs commands issued with it07:14
jmoncayooki :)07:14
AleXC_how do I list what hard drives are on my PC, mounted or not07:15
slavikjmoncayo: how much of programming do you know?07:15
slavikAleXC_: you can go to the device manager07:15
AdmiralAand then disks07:15
redguyschtinky: also, you can lock the root account and use it with sudo only, justa as ubuntu does07:15
slavikI think it should lsit unmounted hard drives07:15
AdmiralAsystem07:15
ConfidentiaLI set up a webserver with lampp, bu I can't seem to be able to access phpmyadmin. I use the link provided on the pre-installed site, but it gives me a message asking what program I want to open this PHTML file in... Any1 know what's wrong?07:16
AdmiralAthen disks07:16
schtinkyredguy, slavik: I guess what I'm not understanding is how it's more secure. For instance, under the normal root situation, if one of my employees has a user account, he can't get into everything on the PC. Now, with a sudo user account a la ubuntu, he can manipulate anything, which is bad07:16
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slavikschtinky: no07:16
AdmiralAConfidentiaL - where'd you get LAMPP from?07:16
AleXC_slavik: where is that?07:16
schtinkyredguy, slavik: please fill me in on my misunderstanding07:16
slavikschtinky: only the user account created during install has access to sudo07:16
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ozbiljan_dedoes anybody run unbuntu 64 bit on an nvidia chipset07:16
thoreauputicschtinky: no, only the first user is in /etc/sudoers07:16
slavikAleXC_: see what someone else wrote07:16
jmoncayoslavik, i know programming but not like network programing or ports communication07:16
redguyschtinky: you can specify wghich commands a user can use with sudo07:16
thoreauputicschtinky: others would have to be added07:16
slavikjmoncayo: just making sure you understood my answer :P07:17
AdmiralAConfidentiaL - synaptic package manager or apachefriends.org?07:17
redguyschtinky: only users which are in admin group acn use sudo in ubuntu07:17
ConfidentiaLAdmiralA: apache friends07:17
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jmoncayoslavik, hehe oki07:17
schtinkythoreauputic, redguy, slavik: so i should install ubuntu with my username first07:17
schtinkythoreauputic, redguy, slavik: and then add my employee's user later?07:17
slavikschtinky: yes07:17
slavikyes07:17
redguyschtinky: true07:17
schtinkyDOH07:17
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AdmiralAConfidentiaL - odd. it worked just fine for me....07:17
ozbiljan_dedoes anybody run unbuntu 64 bit on an nvidia chipset07:17
slavikschtinky: in fact, you can do the isntall once, image/archive the entire drive and use that on other systems07:17
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redguyschtinky: what i said about admin group is the default, you can modify sudo config as you wish07:18
slavikand then simply add the users and whatnot07:18
schtinkythoreauputic, redguy, slavik: what if I created the first account under the employee's user, how do I correct it?07:18
jorgilloola07:18
_jason!pt07:18
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.07:18
redguyschtinky: remove him from the admin group07:18
slavikschtinky: you have to change the sudoers config I think as someone pointed out07:18
AleXC_slavik: I can't find it - do I have to install it?07:18
schtinkyredguy: how? I'm brand new to ubuntu07:18
thoreauputicschtinky: make a new account for yourself, add it to the admin group, remove theother one07:18
redguyschtinky: you might want to remove him from other groups as well, adm for example. adm members can read logs AFAIR07:18
slavikno ...07:18
ConfidentiaLAdmiralA: but also, there is a problem with my phpmyadmin installation from apt-get . It gives me errors when I try to install or remove it. Do you know how I can remove all traces of it manually?07:18
slavikAleXC_: wait, let me boot my laptop (it has ubuntu)07:18
redguyschtinky: are you familliar with debian?07:19
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AleXC_slavik: it's ok ,I installed it07:19
schtinkyredguy: no07:19
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schtinkyredguy which file is it07:19
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schtinkyredguy: or is there a gui07:19
slavikAleXC_: installed what? the drive?07:19
AleXC_slavik: no, device manager07:19
slavik(1:16:43 PM) thoreauputic: schtinky: no, only the first user is in /etc/sudoers07:19
AleXC_slavik: it's found the hard drive - but how do I mount it?07:19
thoreauputicschtinky:  sudo adduser <newuser>07:19
slavikAleXC_: hold on, let me look at mount man page07:20
slavikor you look at it07:20
AleXC_slavik:  I think i've done it now07:20
slavik"man mount"07:20
slavikk07:20
redguyschtinky: I'm sure there is a GUI for that, user-manager or something similar. To do it from the command line you might use sudo deluser employee admin to remove the user 'employee' from the admin group07:20
slavikAleXC_: why do you have to be such a quick learner?07:20
thoreauputicschtinky:sudo adduser <newuser> admin07:20
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AleXC_slavik: it was hdc1 :)07:20
slavikhmm07:21
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slavikinteresting07:21
thoreauputicschtinky: then remove the old user from "admin"07:21
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slavikoba na07:21
ConfidentiaLAdmiralA: Do I need some kind of client to access phpmyadmin?07:21
thoreauputicschtinky: thus the new user has sudo, the old one will not07:21
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green_earzConfidentiaL: to remove a package and its config files apt-get remove --purge package-name or aptitude purge package-name07:21
AleXC_How come SUDO can't use CD?07:21
Newbuntuanyone here know of a good place to get a deb package for mplayer?07:21
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AleXC_sudo: cd: command not found07:21
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AleXC_sudo cd /media/windows07:22
slavikAleXC_: no reason to use sudo for cd07:22
slavikjust cd /media/windows07:22
AleXC_slavik: but I need to get access to /windows07:22
Mathmancd is a bash builtin, no?07:22
erUSUL!tell Newbuntu about repos07:22
ConfidentiaLgreen_earz: I had to reinstall it with synaptic to get it to work07:22
slavikwhen you want to mv or rm, then you might need sudo07:22
erUSULMathman: yes07:22
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thoreauputicAleXC_: you never need sudo for cd07:22
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thoreauputicAleXC_: if you can't access /windows, you need to fix /etc/fstab07:23
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thoreauputic!mountwindows07:23
ubotuDownload and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions07:23
DoatAleXC_, try remounting it. i had the same problem but remounting solved it07:23
redguyschtinky: indeed, thoreauputic's advice is much better, if you had done what I have told you you might end up with a broken system :-)07:24
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thoreauputicredguy: right - he would have lost all sudo powers07:24
ConfidentiaLgreen_earz: it still didn't work... I still get an error when I try to uninstall it...07:24
redguythoreauputic: but this way he could learn about the rescue mode :-)07:24
thoreauputicredguy: hah !07:25
AleXC_gah, sorry for all the questions - how do I copy a file and all it;s content?07:25
erUSULthoreauputic: never is a strong word. if the dir is chmod 400 or 600 you may need it afaik07:25
AleXC_a Folder and all it's content07:25
redguyAleXC_: cp -R07:25
AleXC_thank you :)07:25
redguyAleXC_: -R as in "recursive"07:25
dont_knowhat s the root password07:25
redguyAleXC_: also, try cp --help07:25
thoreauputic!root07:25
redguy!tell dont_kno about root07:25
ubotuwell, root is Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.07:25
redguyAleXC_: most commands have a --help option07:26
schtinkyhow do I remove the first user from "admin"07:26
AleXC_redguy: thanks, that will come in handy07:26
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redguyschtinky: create a user who is a member of the admin group first07:26
slavikor -h07:26
ConfidentiaLwhat does it mean when I try to access phpmyadmin and it says "what do you want to open this PHTML file in?" ?07:26
msoulOkie, so I did boot in recovery mode and what I got is07:26
_jason!root =~ s/^/<reply>/07:27
ubotu_jason: that doesn't contain '^'07:27
_jasonargh07:27
msoultemporary failure in name resolution07:27
msoulwhat exactly should I do07:27
slavikConfidentiaL: does it give you an option to download the file?07:27
redguyConfidentiaL: this means that you misconfigured apache or whatever your http server might be07:27
cribbonnoone can answer my question in any of the other channels so i ask here, is there anyway to completely remove the xgl-restart feature ?07:27
ConfidentiaLslavik: yes07:27
ConfidentiaLredguy: its lampp07:27
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slavikConfidentiaL: read what redguy said07:27
fyrestrtr..07:28
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slavikConfidentiaL: you need to make apache execute the file or whatever ... add the mimetype07:28
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msoulcould anyone tell me how I I change that failure07:28
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slavikConfidentiaL: check the apache docs or phtml docs, they should provide you with the proper way of editing the apache config file07:28
msoul*temporary failure in name resolution*?07:28
redguymsoul: why do you want name resolution in recovery mode?07:28
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msoulredguy: after my installation all I got is a blankscreen07:29
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msoulredguy: so all I got is ctrl-alt-f1 (console mode)07:29
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msoulI honeslty don't know what to do exactly to solve this07:30
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shaledoes anyone use dabber w/ winbind to auth against AD?07:31
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msoulcould anyone helpe me with that?07:31
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erUSULmsoul: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?07:31
_jasonmsoul: you don't even get a prompt of some kind on tty7?07:31
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shalei'm following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto but when i get to wbinfo -u i get 'Error looking up domain users'07:31
msoulerUSUL: yeah I tried that07:31
pedro94hola qieneres07:31
msoul_jason: no just a blankscreen07:31
_jason!es07:31
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:31
cih997hello everyone, I need to delete something on NTFS partition and I have Ubuntu Live CD. Haw can I do this?07:31
GigaClon!es07:31
AleXC_is it possible to get Folder information ( size, files etc ) via terminal?07:32
_jasonmsoul: when you did that, did you choose VESA as the driver?07:32
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_jasonAleXC_: ls -d07:32
msoul_jason: I honestly can't recall07:32
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we2byhello07:32
pedro94cabron07:32
avery_buongiorno07:32
_jasonAleXC_: and du07:32
we2bywhat do I install to get libc development package?07:32
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msoulbbs07:32
_jasoncih997: you can't write safely to ntfs07:32
we2byif I install build-essential, it install gcc-4 for me which is not the one used to build the kernel07:32
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_jasonwe2by: install build-essential and gcc-3.407:33
Stormx2how do I put a directory into a .tar.bz from the command line?07:33
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cih997_jason: hmm, even delete?07:33
shaledoes anyone use dapper w/ winbind to auth against AD?07:33
_jasoncih997: yeah, that involves writing07:33
shalei'm following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto but when i get to wbinfo -u i get 'Error looking up domain users'07:33
shale?07:33
we2byhow do I set which gcc compiler to use?07:33
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slavikshale: #ubuntu+1 for dapper support :)07:34
_jasonStormx2: tar cjf file.tar.bz2 foo/, I think07:34
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shaleslavik thank you :)07:34
_jasonwe2by: export CC=gcc-3.4, before you compile07:34
we2bythe nvidia driver is trying to use gcc4 which it should use gcc307:34
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slavikimo, linux needs a windows like driver install system ... (device manager)07:34
_jasonubotu: tell we2by about nvidia07:35
cih997_jason: but I've just read about special softwares... Do You know any?07:35
_jason!captive07:35
ubotuI heard captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.07:35
_jasonheh guess that's not an option07:35
_jasoncih997: captive is the only one I knew about that people have told me they had decent results with.  But I still wouldn't trust my data to it07:36
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janimonomed, ping07:37
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ConfidentiaLdebian is a different distro from ubuntu, right? so if I want debian I need to reinstall linux?07:37
redguycaptive doesn't work under ubuntu? does anybody know why?07:37
redguyConfidentiaL: most propably07:37
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cih997_jason: my Windows XP has crashed because pagefile.sys file has been deleted with no reason :/07:39
Fracturehow do I disable pcmcia services ? they fail on boot (on a desktop)07:39
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fyrestrtrcih997: hrmm, smells like memory problems07:40
_jasoncih997: maybe you can use the windows install disk to repair that?  or there is some thing called a bart cd which I believe is a windows rescue cd.  I don't know much about either07:40
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_jasoncih997: try #windows07:40
fyrestrtractually, try ##windows07:40
_jasonyeah, it would be ## :P07:40
AleXC_How would I network to a Mac ?07:40
erUSULConfidentiaL: yes07:40
fyrestrtrAleXC_: what would you like to do with it? Share files?07:41
AleXC_Yep, need to give the mac some files I pulled from a hard drive07:41
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fyrestrtrmacs come with sambafs installed. Just activate windows sharing on yours, and your pc will show up on the mac.07:41
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fyrestrtrthen share files as normal.07:41
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AleXC_Ok, now time to find out how to activate windows sharing :)07:42
redguy!samba07:42
ubotusamba is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html07:42
fyrestrtrAleXC_: its installed by default, iirc.07:42
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cih997_jason: I have 2 copies of Windows and both want to format c: but I want to repair it and I have Ubuntu Live CD07:42
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_jasoncih997: the ubuntu live cd isn't really your best option for writing to ntfs.  If I were you I would look around for a different cd that tries to implement writing to ntfs.  Actually, I would just scrap windows and install ubuntu07:43
apache2so why would adept be having a "could not open cache" error?07:43
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_jasonapache2: is that the whole error?07:43
cazoola07:43
cazool??07:44
cazoolwho is chinese07:44
apache2_jason: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.07:44
fyrestrtrcazool: people from China?07:44
apache2I don't have apt-setup on my system07:44
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cazoolyes07:44
_jasonapache2: what does apt-get update do?07:44
graftyuen wo-ping is chinese07:44
apache2_jason: doesn't fix the problem07:44
CNAPok guys. i just wanted to put something out on the table for you. a recent article ran in slashdot (http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/06/04/19/1235227.shtml) basically saying that the biggest turn off for people converting to linux from windows is linux geeks' attitude towards newbies. i wanted to thank everyone here for proving that assumption wrong on behalf of the ubuntu community. i know i've left messages in other linux newsgroups and c07:44
CNAPhatrooms and have gotten the "RTFM" message plenty07:44
_jasonapache2: does it throw errors?07:44
apache2no, works fine07:45
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_jasonapache2: do you have other things that use apt open?07:45
apache2_jason: nope :)07:46
graftARGH! WHY does my wireless card keep hanging up?!07:46
FractureCNAP, that is just another great thing about the ubuntu community07:46
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Fractureubuntu is more than just linux07:46
apache2_jason: I admit, I use dapper, but I was just interested if other people had this problem outside of dapper07:46
fyrestrtryeah, it ubur linux :P07:46
fyrestrtrapache2: -.-07:46
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_jasonapache2: ah, I don't use adept myself so can't really tell you07:46
jmoncayowhat is ipp used for? it says i have the port 631 open?07:46
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CNAPFracture, yeah tell me about it. I was shocked the first time i left a "newbie styled" question only sure to get RTFM as a response and people actually helped. i'm also shocked with the amount of activity goes on here 24/707:47
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apache2is 6.06 out for kubuntu? :P07:47
graftCNAP: we're bored, bored people07:47
wvelezjmoncayo: internet printing protocol07:47
fyrestrtrCNAP: its the general feeling around freenode, that's why I like this network so much.07:47
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fyrestrtrjoin any channel.07:47
fyrestrtrand feel the lurve.07:47
FractureCNAP, yeah, its pretty amazing how busy it is in here07:47
AMDXPok i got a question is there a web page or a way i can search the repos for games and i dont mean like big name games my mom loves to play card and board games and although ubuntu comes with quite a few i want to add more07:48
regulatei've gotten used to the RTFM from other communities and actually decided to RTFM until it hurts07:48
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fyrestrtrAMDXP: you can just use google, or apt-cache, or Synaptic and search for 'games'07:48
CNAPregulate, yeah i try and RTFM before i ask questions here but sometimes the freaking manual is indecipherable to a non-programmer07:48
fyrestrtrwiki is good07:49
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fyrestrtrI love wiki07:49
fyrestrtrweeeekeeeee07:49
regulatelol i feel your pain07:49
Newbuntudoes anyone here use konqueror?07:49
apache2man I didn't think kubuntu dapper was out yet... guess it is :D07:49
regulateyou gotta read it till u understand :)07:49
apache2Newbuntu: yeah sure, konqueror is great07:49
fyrestrtror you pass out, whichever comes first.07:49
jmoncayowvelez, and what about port 32770/tcp open  sometimes-rpc307:49
regulateits great tho to have a community who cares..07:49
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Newbuntuapache I love it too, mostly because under breezy and dapper firefox ALWAYS crashes07:50
regulatei've been using linux forever and no one helped me nor did they care..07:50
apache2aw man isn't azureus on apt07:50
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CNAPhow are you guys upgrading to dapper?07:50
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_jason!azureus07:50
ubotumethinks azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo07:50
fyrestrtrapache2: its already installed I think07:51
CNAPubotu, what's the question about azureus? i think i can help07:51
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ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CNAP07:51
fyrestrtroh wait, that's another cliet.07:51
regulatebut i read that slashdot article and its actually true how linux gurus can craft a line of code but have a hard time crafting sentences to explain their cod07:51
regulatecde07:51
Newbuntuapache I just got java and flash working for knonqueror , but im having troubles with mplayer plugings to make realvideo and quicktime possible in konqueror, it works fine in mozilla but it crashes all the time07:51
regulatecode07:51
regulatebah07:51
_jasonubotu: tell CNAP about yourself07:51
fyrestrtrCNAP: err, ubotu is a bot.07:51
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facugaichI'm looking for a gfx editor besides the gimp, something with more functionality, like Flash (but just to create images)07:51
CNAPfyrestrtr, LOL, yeah i just figured that out07:51
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wvelezjmoncayo: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77684.html07:51
wvelezHP Linux Imaging and Printing System07:52
teletubbiehi07:52
graftapache2: it's GPLd, but i think there's issues with distributing java, so you can't really put it in the repos07:52
regulatefacugaich: try inkscape for true vector graphics07:52
Fractureinkscape is pretty good07:52
teletubbiewhy can't I update ffox through apt-get??07:52
facugaichok, thanks regulate07:52
xiaoyuwhereis the file that xfce's menu.xml cite of system07:52
regulateyou can run flash through openoffice or wine but its stupid slow and choppy07:52
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fyrestrtr!tell teletubbie about firefox update07:53
regulatenp07:53
xiaoyuor where is gnome save its menu config file07:53
Newbuntuapache in konqueror if you go to www.dead.net does it work for you? it does in mozilla for me but not konqueror07:53
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fyrestrtr!firefox07:53
graftfacugaich: sodipodi is decent07:53
fyrestrtr!ff07:53
ubotufyrestrtr: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:53
Newbuntuby mozilla i meant firefox07:53
blindxlol my monitor won't work right in 1280x1024 resolution, the refresh rate is too low.. so I just wear sunglasses while operating my computer07:53
fyrestrtr!tell teletubbie about firefox1.507:53
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fyrestrtrblindx: good way to ruin your monitor07:54
blindxfuck the monitor, good way to ruin my cornia07:54
blindxer, language. sorry :x07:54
Dr_Willisrefresh rates too low.. :P heck i rember the Old days with refresh rates of like 30mhz07:54
facugaichthat's a funny name graft, but I'll check it out, thank you07:54
fyrestrtrokay I'm corssing my fingers and hoping that ubuntu understands vista and that to add it to the boot menu -- and doesn't wipe out the MBR07:55
fyrestrtryeah I remember the days when tv was like etch-a-sketch07:55
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cih997Is anyone from Scotland??07:55
fyrestrtrand that cool 'bubble' effect you see now a days in photoshoots, was how you actually watched the 'tube'.07:55
Newbuntuapache, give me a cookie... I figured it out all by myself, you can switch konqueror to change browser identification.. in this case from default to explorer under xp and   BAM07:55
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Newbuntui'll never go back to firefox07:56
seraxhi07:56
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fyrestrtrlol @ installing bicyclerepair07:56
Dr_Willisfirefox has too many cool  features I use - to ever use anything else.07:56
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hussamHi, I want to install dapper using a daily CD. which most recent daily CD works?07:57
seraxi need something like winamp for ubuntu plz help...07:57
fyrestrtrserax: xmms07:57
fyrestrtrserax: if you want something like itunes, banshee07:58
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seraxhmmm i will test them both07:58
Gausomeone should tell serax about mp3 on ubuntu as well, I'd wager.07:58
fyrestrtrGau: he'll be back07:58
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teletubbiehi, I use nvsound kernel module. it uses OSS. how do I setup software mixing?07:59
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teletubbiedoes this onboard sound card support hardware mixing?07:59
jmoncayocould somebody help me why do i get this http://pastebin.com/66972907:59
jmoncayoplease some help07:59
dereksserax: i also like muine07:59
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teletubbiedoes OOS even support mixing?07:59
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dereksserax: and rhythmbox is also a popular product08:00
cens0redhow does ubuntu linux like it when you upgrade CPU, mainboard, and RAM?08:00
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derekscens0red: it likes it :)08:00
fyrestrtrcens0red: like a fat kid loves cake08:00
cens0reddereks serious? Won't freak out and fritz on me?08:00
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derekscens0red: you might have a problem with the mobo upgrade08:00
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teletubbiecens0red, it will work fine08:01
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dereksbut i think cpu and ram should be fine08:01
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fyrestrtrcens0red: if you think upgrade means Intel P4 > AMD 64 then you MIGHT have a problem.08:01
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derekscens0red: i would reccomend doing a whole new install08:01
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jmoncayowvelez, do you know why do i get this with apt http://pastebin.com/66972908:01
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cens0reddereks so it won't like it08:01
cens0red?08:02
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fyrestrtrcens0red: for that upgrade, no problems. If you are changing the motherboard, then you will probably run into some problems (like sound, video, etc.)08:02
derekscens0red: you are basically replacing the key components, and i don't think it will like the mobo upgrade08:02
facugaichjmoncayo, maybe you should re-download the repos, but I don't know08:02
teletubbiecens0red, I hope you have a separated partition for /home08:02
teletubbie;)08:02
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jmoncayofacugaich, yea i could but i wonder why i get that if everything was working just fine08:02
cens0reddereks new mainboard, cpu and RAM.08:02
cens0redand p/supply for that matter.08:03
derekscens0red: right, i don't think it will like the new motherboard08:03
dereksthe rest should be fine08:03
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dereks(its all speculation, in an ideal world, it will work right)08:03
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facugaichjmoncayo, sometimes that happens to me, but what I do is backup them08:03
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cens0reddereks so it should run ... just won't know where the old vid/sound cards have gone.08:03
facugaich!repos08:03
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource08:03
jesygemhola!08:04
seraxwhat kind of file system must i download when i want to install a programm? -> tar.gz or tar.bz208:04
jmoncayofacugaich, but if i donwload the repos i think it would be much better than having the old ones08:04
derekscens0red: SHOULD is the keyword, but if you have things like hda is now hdb, etc you might run into problems08:04
jmoncayohola08:04
jmoncayojesygem, hola08:04
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facugaichboth are fine serax, they are different compression types08:04
teletubbiehi, I use nvsound kernel module. it uses OSS. how do I setup software mixing?08:04
cens0reddereks cheers.08:04
jesygemhola, jeje soy nuevo por estos lares xD08:05
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isaola08:05
facugaich!es08:05
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ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:05
erUSULjesygem: esto es uncanal en ingles para castellano vete a #ubuntu-es08:05
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erUSULisa: esto es un canal en ingles para castellano vete a #ubuntu-es08:06
seraxthx facugaich08:06
jmoncayohehe08:06
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jmoncayo!es08:06
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:06
jesygemsorry i don't know that this channel don't allow speak spanish08:06
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AleXC_Hey, I can see my Mac in Network Servers - but when I double click on it, it just goes to an empty directory08:06
AleXC_Why is this?08:06
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jmoncayoAleXC_, in what network server do you find it?08:07
fyrestrtrdo you have any shares defined in your mac?08:07
jesygemgoodbye jmoncayo, i'm going to the spanish channel08:07
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AleXC_jmoncayo: in Network -> Windows Network -> workgroup -> SCOTTS-MAC08:08
fyrestrtrgot Windows vista dual booting with ubuntu -- life is good again :)08:08
blindxCan anyone help me with an install of QEMU ? I'm following the how-to but seem to have hit a snag along the way..08:08
fyrestrtrsee you ubuntizens tomarrah :D08:08
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seraxmsg ubotu register08:08
teletubbiesome one try to dl ffox 1.5 plz08:08
teletubbieit says xml error!08:08
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blindxhttp://pastebin.com/669746 -- My qemu problem08:09
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jmoncayoAleXC_, thats maybe sometime you connected to that machine or from that machine08:09
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AleXC_jmoncayo: nope, Mac has never connected to this pc08:09
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jmoncayokinda wierd08:10
AleXC_oh well, guess i'll just have to burn it on cd. why can't linux be easy to use ><08:10
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MisterNhi08:10
teletubbiesome one try to dl ffox 1.5 plz08:10
teletubbieit says xml error!08:10
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teletubbiewhat od I install to get X development files?08:10
zipperIn dapper, i'm desperately trying to get my tv-out through s-video to work. Tried reading a couple of guides and using nvtv, but whatever i do, i just cant seem to get a signal to my tv. Anyone who can give me a hint, or who knows a good guide for setting up tv-out?08:11
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useronehello all...I have a problem with 'viewing' files. When I open a terminal and type 'ls -l' I can see all the files I expect to see. However, when I open a GUI file browser, I can no longer see my text files! Anyone have any ideas?08:11
facugaichzipper, join ubuntu+1 for dapper chat08:11
blindxuserone: ctrl+h08:11
seraxsomeone knows something like a tutorial for ubuntu?08:11
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sfari want to resize an image.. is it any program installed wich can do that? (except GIMP)08:11
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seraxor a faq08:12
XamDMsfar, gimp08:12
blindxsfar: whats wrong with gimp?08:12
zipperfacugaich, well, it's more an "tv-out" topic than "dapper" really08:12
zipperbut ok, i'll try08:12
fyrestrtrsfar: imagemagick can do that08:12
seraxlike how do i install a programm :)08:12
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_jasonubotu: tell serax about synaptic08:12
useroneblindx: I tried that first...show hidden files...but no luck! Thats why I came here! :-)08:12
_jasonserax: check out help.ubuntu.com08:12
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seraxkk thx08:12
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facugaichserax, also wiki.ubuntu.com08:13
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cyphase:O08:13
cyphaseApple released Bonjour for windows08:13
madrabbitcan anyone tell me where the meta file for bittorrent is08:13
seraxk tanks!08:14
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ompaulmadrabbit, for what part of ubuntu?08:14
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madrabbiti dont know when i try to connect thats what it wants08:14
blindxuserone: have you just.. refreshed?08:15
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harfoozserax, once you get imagemagick installed, try this on a COPY!! of your image: mogrify -resize 40% filename08:15
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sesstreetsIf I install ubuntu server edition...do I have gnome installed?08:15
sesstreetsOr do I get the command line?08:16
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useroneblindx: I can open the file in 'text editor' but I when I try to 'rm' it in the terminal ubuntu says 'no such file'. Strange?08:16
blindxvery08:16
LeaChimIs there any way to import all my mail from thunderbird to Evolution - while still keeping it in the correct folders?08:16
sesstreetsanybody?08:16
facugaichmadrabbit, bittorrent isn't like Kazaa or another p2p client, it works in a different way08:16
sesstreetsA special way08:16
sesstreetslike this08:16
madrabbitplease do tell08:17
redguysesstreets: 1. there is no such thing as "Ubuntu server edition"08:17
sesstreetsyes there is08:17
facugaichmadrabbit, http://www.dessent.net/btfaq/08:17
sesstreetshttp://sesstreets.com/files/readings/ebooks/The_BitTorrent_Bible.pdf08:17
redguysesstreets: no, there is not08:17
madrabbitthanks08:17
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useroneblindx: the permissions for the files are -rw-r--r--08:17
sesstreetsyes there is08:17
redguysesstreets: maybe you meant a server *install* ?08:17
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B0FH!glxgears08:17
ubotuTo display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"08:17
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blindxuserone: what's the name of the file?08:18
j0hannesfyrestrtr: hello again08:18
redguysesstreets: if yes, then you don't have gnome and Xorg installed. What would you use a GUI on a server after all?08:18
ompaulmadrabbit, ,  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20060419/  in there you will find several torrent files you save and open them and all of a sudden you have downloads going on08:18
sesstreetsFor a home server+a regular server in one08:19
useroneblindx: time_management08:19
sesstreetsim not THAT good at linux yet08:19
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sesstreetshttp://espelhos.edugraf.ufsc.br/ubuntu-releases/ubuntu-server/08:19
jbaloulanyone know of a sata / esata pci card that works out of the box (i am looking for a 3.gb version)08:19
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nicegoinghello08:19
sesstreetsnewegg.com08:19
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blindxuserone: I'm stumped.08:19
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sesstreetsreguy I dont know...looks like it exists08:20
nicegoinganyone knows howto know what servers are currently running ?08:20
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rotagivani got an xp/ubuntu dual boot and don't have anything important in ubuntu saved, i want to install 5.10 over the older ubuntu, should i have any problems?08:20
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jbaloulsesstreets do you know of a specific model?08:20
sesstreetsMaybe08:20
sesstreetsALthough08:20
sesstreetsI trust that basically any adaptec will work out of the box08:20
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useroneblindx: thanks for trying anyway...I have never seen this before either!08:21
jbaloulhmm interesting08:21
jbaloulok will take that in consideration08:21
jbaloulthanks08:21
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redguysesstreets: well, look here http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/08:22
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redguysesstreets: no server edition in here08:22
indykhello all08:22
useronecan anyone else help with strangely behaving files?08:22
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g0dch1ldHi - is dapper ready then? :D08:22
LeaChimIs there any way to import all my mail from thunderbird to Evolution - while still keeping it in the correct folders?08:22
redguy!dapper08:22
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)08:22
Stormx2dapper isn't ready.08:22
sesstreetsThe only diff is that the server ed i pointed to you has all the stuff ON the cd08:22
g0dch1ldthanks. :)08:22
sesstreetsLike its a cd repository of apache mysql and php08:23
Stormx2I wish they'd changed that horrible wallpaper >_<08:23
Stormx2I should upload the wallpapers i made to gnome-look now actually08:23
redguysesstreets: well, it is not official I suppose08:23
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redguy!tell sesstreets about nicktab08:23
sfarblindx: well, gimp is a bit overkill if i only want to resize an image08:23
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Mique88ehm08:24
Mique88hi08:24
blindxWell it loads fast, and gets the job done, sfar.08:24
blindxSo...08:24
sesstreetsGimp is almost on par with photoshop08:24
Mique88is there someone who speak italian?08:24
blindxI took Italian in high school.08:25
sesstreetsI know it08:25
sesstreetsKinda well08:25
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blindxgimp is not on par with photoshopppppppp08:25
Mique88si?08:25
HedgeMageMique88: I think it's Bluekuja's native language08:25
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nicegoinganyone can help.. I want to check which servers are currently running on my box08:25
sesstreetssi08:25
sesstreetsMi parlo italian un piscioto08:25
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Mique88 la prima volta che mi connetto...08:25
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sesstreetsque?08:26
Tobanicegoing: what servers are you talking about?08:26
sfarblindx: hehe, i dont think its THAT fast.. and actually its kinda bloated if you only need to resize an image.. its like installing OpenOffice package just to edit sources.list ;)08:26
blindxpiscioto. i lose.08:26
Tobasshd and apache?08:26
Tobathat sort?08:26
Bluekujaciao mique08:26
useroneok...another question...is firestarter a good firewall and easy to set up?08:26
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g0dch1ldhi - anyone here tried connecting your Ubuntu box to a projector?08:26
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redguysesstreets: hmm, it sees thet the server edition is official. Sorry didn't know about that08:26
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Tobag0dch1ld: no but if it's VGA it should be fine I would think08:26
Mique88it's the first time that i'am connect here...08:26
sesstreets:P08:26
_jason!firewall08:26
ubotuUbuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.08:26
sesstreetsI did08:26
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Bluekujamique88 vieni nel canale italiano08:26
Bluekuja#ubuntu-it08:26
Mique88grazie08:27
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Bluekuja;)08:27
sesstreetsA projector showing a widescreen desktop of ubuntu owns08:27
AleXC_Hey,08:27
sesstreetsIt looked bada$$08:27
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nicegoinguserone: firestarter is the easiest firewall.. go for it, it is so reliable, actualy it is just a GUI for iptables08:27
Mique88mi hai salvato chiunque tu siaa08:27
LeaChimIs there any way to import all my mail from thunderbird to Evolution - while still keeping it in the correct folders?08:27
AleXC_Will someone please help me network to my Mac, I have 14GB to transfer to it and I can't do that with DVD's08:27
sesstreetsiptables is the hawtness08:27
Bluekujahaha08:27
TobaMique88: #ubuntu-it please :P08:27
sesstreetsalexc ?08:27
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AleXC_sesstreets: Hum, what?08:28
sesstreetsGuys you shuold be able to install mambo right?08:28
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Mique88ehmmm.... scusa bluekuja08:28
TobaAleXC_: are you trying to transfer files to/from ubuntu?08:28
sesstreetsAnd still have a mac connect to it?08:28
g0dch1ldToba: - hmm...yeah, i can get it to show the boot process and shell- when it comes to X, i've yet to figure out how to write the xorg.conf to setup two screens...and I'll be dang'd if i can figure out the vertical refresh rate and the horiz sync-08:28
Bluekujafai cos /join #ubuntu-it08:28
nicegoinganyone can help.. I want to check which servers are currently running on my box08:28
blindxalexc: why not? that's only 2 DVDs :P08:28
Tobag0dch1ld: yeah, xorg and dual screens can be hard08:28
Mique88mad ti sposo08:28
redguy!server08:28
ubotuUbuntu 5.10 Server is out! http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html08:28
sesstreetsCause if u want to go from ubuntu to mac all you do is install apache and drag all the stuff into that directory08:28
TobaI did it last week08:28
useroneubotu: nicegoing: I have to connect to a Windows network...the IT guy is a bit of a git and hates Linux. He has threatened to try and hack my machine. Is firestarter what I need or is native Ubuntu good enough?08:28
Mique88eheh08:28
AleXC_Toba: From ubuntu to Mac08:28
ubotuthat's too long, userone08:28
Tobabut it took a lot of pain08:28
sesstreetsIf you want to go from mac to ubuntu08:28
sesstreetssame thing buy use mac apache08:28
AleXC_blindx: no, dvd's i've got are 4.7 GB08:28
sesstreetsIts the simplest way08:28
sesstreetsAlexC_seriously08:28
blindxoh. i was thinking DL DVDs :P08:28
nicegoinganyone can help.. I want to check which servers are currently running on my box08:28
sesstreetsUse apache to do it08:28
Tobayou could use scp08:29
Tobaif you care a lot about security08:29
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blindxuserone: ubotu is a bot :P08:29
Tobaooh idea08:29
redguyubotu: server is also for Ubuntu Server support join #ubuntu-server08:29
uboturedguy: okay08:29
TobaAleXC_: pm08:29
redguy!server08:29
AleXC_Toba: I don't care about security, I just want to go from Ubuntu to Mac via lan08:29
ubotuUbuntu 5.10 Server is out! http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html, or for Ubuntu Server support join #ubuntu-server08:29
sesstreetsUse apaceh08:29
sesstreetsapache*08:29
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sesstreetsIts a webserver08:29
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useroneblindx: thanks! I was wondering about the strange reply!08:29
fgarciahola,quien ay'08:30
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blindxhaha. he's a smart bot, though :P08:30
david_hello08:30
sesstreetsYou install it via synaptic, login with root, drag all the stuff from whereever it is to /var/www/08:30
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madrabbitsorry some one stoped by08:30
sesstreetsThen Figure out what your local IP is (like 192.168.1.100) and enter taht address in the mac08:30
LeaChimIs there any way to import all my mail from thunderbird to Evolution - while still keeping it in the correct folders?08:30
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sesstreetsgot that alex?08:30
_jasonuserone: ubuntu runs no listening services on a default install, so iptables has no rules setup as default08:31
NrbelexHi, I have a few questions about users - Is the user created during setup the only user with administrative access (the only one able to install programs, etc.)?08:31
madrabbiti went back and seen the links thanks guys08:31
sesstreetsNrbelex ubuntu doesnt work like windows08:31
sesstreetsThere are (by default)08:31
_jasonNrbelex: he gets added to the 'admin' group automatically.  After that anyone else you add to the 'admin' group can have the same sudo privileges08:31
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sesstreetstwo users.08:31
LeaChimNrbelex, yes. you can add more admins afterwards if you want08:31
Nrbelex_jason, thanks08:31
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sesstreetsYeah so technicaly you wouldnt have to login as root08:32
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userone_jason: so that means the IT git shouldn't find a way into the system, or does that mean I need to set up the iptables to protect the system?08:32
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NrbelexIs it a securty issue if I regularly use this user for basic tasks (web browsing, etc.)?08:32
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sesstreetsNo08:32
sesstreetsDont think so08:32
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LeaChimNrbelex, no08:33
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_jasonuserone: if he does, file a bug :)08:33
NrbelexThanks again all08:33
LeaChimNrbelex, if anything pops up asking you for your password - be careful08:33
sesstreetsYeah08:33
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intelikeyNrbelex if the user is root.08:34
LeaChimthat's the only way something malicious could break out of the confines of your user to attack the rest of the system08:34
NrbelexOk - thanks a lot08:34
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matth-w_jason, Hey, this is nin. I was wondering about this flash, I'm not recieving sound through it... But I am getting video now08:34
_jasonuserone: nmap your system's ip and see if you find anything listening.  You can, if you want, isntall firestarter anyway, it will setup some iptables rules for you.  It doesn't hurt...08:34
djk_does anyone know of a way to convert chm to pdf or ps ?08:34
MathmanLeaChim: well, certainly not the only way, but perhaps the most straightforward way08:34
NrbelexIs there a graphical way to setup Samba?08:34
_jasonmatth-w: install alsa-oss and run firefox as 'aoss firefox'08:35
sesstreetsNrbelex I do not think so08:35
MathmanNrbelex: swat08:35
userone_jason: thanks...I will file a bug if he manages to get in! :-)08:35
sesstreetsgoogle it08:35
LeaChimMathman, accepting there are currently no bugs in any software that would allow it to exploit something to escalate it's priveledges?08:35
LeaChim:P08:35
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_jasonuserone: just make sure you update your system regularly and you should be fine08:36
jadaz87hello everyone i am wondering why after a vmware installation and i run it it runs fine but after i restart and click the shortcut for it it says starting vmware on the active app bar and then it goes away and nothing else happens08:36
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MathmanLeaChim: sure.  I could alias sudo to something or other that grabs the password when you type it.  to give one example.08:36
sesstreetsjadaz67 #vmware08:36
LeaChimMathman, how can you do that? we currently only have user access :P08:37
mbishopHow can I change the cursor theme? I unpacked a theme into /usr/share/themes but I don't see it as an option08:37
jadaz87sesstreets i am on ubuntu08:37
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blindxin gimp: is there anyway to "dock" the windows together, so that when one gets minimized, or gets focus, they all do?08:37
MathmanLeaChim: so I couldn't mess with a users .bashrc or whatever?08:37
mbishopblindx, google for gimpshop08:37
sesstreetsoh08:37
sesstreetsjadaz87, then I cant help you sorry08:37
blindxI did mbishop .. it wouldn't installl..08:37
_jasonblindx: you can drag the stuff into the same pane (somehow)08:37
SSmithHey guys, I just updated my kernel from 2.12(Breezy standard) to 2.16.4 and now my network card isn't detected anymore?  I've googled around for a bit and couldn't find a solution08:37
mbishopblindx, well that's the only way I know of08:37
blindx_jason: yeah, but my screen isn't big enough for that.08:37
sesstreetsSSmith, how are you talking to us then?08:38
LeaChimMathman, but.... i said before to be careful about typing in your password :P - aren't you on about typing in your password? nothing that doesn't require a password08:38
SSmithI'm back in 2.1208:38
sesstreetsoh08:38
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sesstreetsthen just stay there08:38
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pppoe_dude!ekiga08:38
ubotufrom memory, ekiga is full-featured SIP and H.323 compatible VoIP, IP-Telephony and Videoconferencing application that allows you to make audio and video calls to remote users with SIP and H.323 hardware or software.08:38
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LeaChimIs there any way to import all my mail from thunderbird to Evolution - while still keeping it in the correct folders?08:39
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MathmanLeaChim: no...you said be careful about something that pops up and asks you for your password.  which in my eyes would be different from you yourself doing something like typing sudo, where you'd expect it to ask you.  anyway, whatever.08:39
pppoe_dudeany chance of installing ekiga easily on breezy? last time i had to remove a lot of packages08:39
userone_jason: thanks..I am off to apt-get firestarter! :-)08:39
sesstreetsgood08:39
jadaz87hello everyone i am wondering why after a vmware installation and i run it it runs fine but after i restart and click the shortcut for it it says starting vmware on the active app bar and then it goes away and nothing else happens08:39
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SSmithWell, I would like to receive the benefits of the 2.16 kernel08:39
sesstreetsLike?08:39
pppoe_dudejadaz87, try ps -A |grep vmware, and see if there are any already running zombies... kill them08:40
LeaChimjadaz87, open a terminal and type vmware08:40
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LeaChimjadaz87, and see what error happens08:40
sesstreetsThat souds like A game08:40
sesstreets"see if there are any already running zombies... kill them"08:40
pppoe_dude:P08:40
sesstreetswith a shotgun08:40
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jadaz87LeaChim vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured08:40
jadaz87for this system. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following command:08:40
jadaz87/usr/bin/vmware-config.pl08:40
intelikeymachetty08:40
Nrbelexintelikey, thanks08:40
jadaz87LeaChim i already configured it though08:41
intelikeyNrbelex np08:41
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Mathmanjadaz87: perhaps you just need to load the module then?  doesn't that vmware config script compile a kernel module?08:41
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jadaz87Mathman yes it does how to a load that modules08:42
Mathmanjadaz87: modprobe foo08:42
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Mathmanjadaz87: well, run lsmod first and see where you're at08:42
teletubbieI'm trying to compile scilab here. but got error when it is linking08:42
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_jasonteletubbie: you know they have binaries on their site?08:43
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scifiweeerrrhooooo, im now online in ubuntu :D08:43
scifiand all with NO pci network card08:43
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teletubbiehttp://pastebin.com/66980408:44
_jasonteletubbie: and it's in the repos too although there was a bug that I don't know whether or not it has been fixed08:44
scifineone wanna kno how?08:44
teletubbie_jason, yea. but those do not use gtk08:44
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intelikeyteletubbie why are you compiling scilab  ?08:44
intelikey!info scilab08:44
teletubbieI'm compiling scilab-gtk08:44
ubotuscilab: (Matrix-based scientific software package (a la Matlab and Xmath)), section multiverse/math, is optional. Version: 3.0-12 (breezy), Packaged size: 2395 kB, Installed size: 28956 kB08:44
teletubbiehttp://cermics.enpc.fr/~jpc/scilab/site/Scilab-Gtk/Scilab-Gtk/index.htm08:44
jadaz87mathman ok i did lsmod08:44
scifierULUS u here m8?08:45
mindaugashi from lithuania :):))08:45
mindaugasany one08:45
mindaugas?08:45
intelikeywell at any rate teletubbie you do have b-e installed,   right ?08:45
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teletubbiewhat b-e?08:45
intelikey!b-e08:45
ubotub-e is, like, totally, no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.08:45
mindaugashow to install skype on ununtu ??08:46
Mathmanjadaz87: ok, well, yyou'd be looking for vmware something or othher.08:46
teletubbieI have huild-essential installed08:46
mindaugashow to install skype on ubuntu ??08:46
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jadaz87math man Module                  Size  Used by08:46
jadaz87vmnet                  24356  1208:46
jadaz87vmmon                 100524  008:46
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Mathmanmindaugas: me, I'd grab the tarball, extract it to ~/apps/.08:46
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teletubbieok, recompiling08:46
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Mathmanjadaz87: you coulda just said yes or something.  =)08:47
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Mathmanjadaz87: anyway, dunno what to tell you then.08:47
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Mathmanjadaz87: aside from trying to configure it again.08:47
mbishopHow do I installed tor/privoxy? there doesn't seem to be packages  available08:47
intelikeymay i ask who it is that is always rewriting the info in ubotu ?08:47
jadaz87mathman oh ok08:48
sesstreetsmbishop, you might want to google it?08:48
teletubbiesame error08:48
scifiif anyone here is using a adsl usb modem/router and cant get online in ubuntu like i have, pls try using a usb to ethernet adaptor, ive tried one and it work ! :D08:48
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intelikeyit's   a  shame !     every time some one gets a good help message set in ubotu,  some JERK always changes it.08:51
SSmithHey guys, I just updated my kernel from 2.12(Breezy standard) to 2.16.4 and now my network card isn't detected anymore?  I've googled around for a bit and couldn't find a solution08:51
sesstreetsStay with 2.1208:51
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_jasonubuntu: the ubuntu database website would tell you08:51
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_jasonerm never mind08:51
SSmithWell, I would like to receive the benefits of 2.1608:51
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mbishopSSmith, what network card?08:52
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NrbelexI just set up Samba according to http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Share_files_using_Samba but I cannot access my Linux box from Windows08:52
SSmithRealtek RTL8201CL08:52
blindxOkay, I just install gimpshop.08:52
scificant believe this adaptor works, wont even have to open my pc now and buy a pci card08:52
blindxI see nothing different.08:52
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SSmithits on an ASrock motherboard08:53
SSmithintegrated08:53
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scifihow do i check the version of my kernel?08:54
Mathmanuname -a08:54
Mathmandpkg something or other08:54
Mathmanapt-something or other08:54
blindxAnyone in here use gimpshop?08:55
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icemanonly failure in the entire linux operating system is the lack of a complete point and click installer ....08:56
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ElazarI just noticed that the Firefox 1.0.8 update is available. Can anyone recommend whether I should switch to this or keep the copy of 1.5.0.2 that I've installed?08:56
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icemanloki software had that covered. if only it would become a standard .... : ( until linux gains the simplicity for home users it still remains the "geeks" operation system .. sadly to say ...08:57
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edgardoespaol08:58
teletubbiehow do I get gmake installed?08:58
edgardocual es el canal?08:58
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crimsunteletubbie: install build-essential08:58
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edgardowhat's the chanell for hispan people?08:58
SSmithiceman:  Synaptic is 10 times easier to use than "wizards", if that is what you are referring to by point-and-click08:58
edgardowhat's the chanell for hispan people?08:59
teletubbieI have it installed08:59
edgardo:S08:59
_jason!es08:59
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:59
ssstormyteletubbie, from a terminal, run "apt-get install build-essential"08:59
blindxedgardo, #ubuntu-es08:59
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ssstormywhat is this09:00
icemanSSmith no, synaptic does not cover after market software ... but linux is close ... like the sindows software and a installer ... all linux lacks09:00
_jasonteletubbie: gmake is gnu-make which is just make in ubuntu09:00
ssstormythere is a #ubuntu-es but no #ubuntu-ja09:00
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tonyyarussoHow to find out the total installed size of a package, for instance how much more disk space would be required to add kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop?09:01
tonyyarusso(With dependencies, that is.)09:01
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NrbelexOnce Automatix is used the update manger can then be used to update installed software, correct?09:02
ssstormytonyyarusso, install it and do a df -h?09:02
_jasontonyyarusso: sudo aptitude -s install package, should tell you09:02
stephen_banksi'd just add the package to aptitude's download list, then it should have the total install size - "will use xxx mb of disk space"09:02
_jason!automatix09:03
ubotuautomatix is probably unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.09:03
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tonyyarusso_jason: You are correct.  Now how about for finding out total size, regardless of what is already installed locally?09:04
teletubbiehi09:04
MrPocketshi09:04
teletubbiewhen I do apt-cache search scilab. I don't see it in the list09:04
buzzedcan i ask a skype on ubuntu question?09:04
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_jasontonyyarusso: aptitude show package, but that won't get you deps09:04
teletubbiebut a few minutes ago some said I can install it using apt-get09:04
tonyyarussoNrbelex: In other words, it might, if your system works at all after automatix ;)09:04
nyersaI have a question about ubuntu and newer dell laptops... is it possible to get a 9300 and a 700m to work with sleep mode?09:04
Mathmanbuzzed: what makes you think you couldn't?09:04
tonyyarusso_jason: Any way to get it with the deps?09:05
_jason!info scilab09:05
ubotuscilab: (Matrix-based scientific software package (a la Matlab and Xmath)), section multiverse/math, is optional. Version: 3.0-12 (breezy), Packaged size: 2395 kB, Installed size: 28956 kB09:05
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teletubbieI ahve multiverse enabled09:05
_jasonubotu: tell teletubbie about multiverse09:05
teletubbie:\09:05
buzzednew here... might be more of a skype app question...09:05
tonyyarussobuzzed: You can certainly try.09:05
_jasonteletubbie: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please?09:05
_jason!pastebin09:05
ubotuwell, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126909:05
NrbelexI thought Automatix was recommended fo new users...09:05
_jasontonyyarusso: I don't know how offhand, you could write a quick little script :)09:05
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tonyyarussoNrbelex: Some people recommend it.  They should be ignored, and the stance of people in this channel is that it is unwise.  You could look into !easyubuntu instead.09:06
buzzedanyways skype is installed and buddies added... but i send messages or see if they are online... any idea how to fix this?09:06
tonyyarusso_jason: I suppose.  I'll look through the aptitude man some more first, and if nothing might give that a shot.09:06
nyersaon a default load of ubuntu sleep mode is disabled/does not work on a 9300... is there any easy way to make it work?09:06
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Nrbelextonyyarusso, Ok, will do, thanks09:07
teletubbie_jason, http://pastebin.com/66985409:07
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Mathmanbuzzed: you gotta try again on that one.  I can't really make heads of tails of that.09:07
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tonyyarussobuzzed: I doubt it.  Basically, what I've found is that Skype devs don't care about the Linux build, and it has numerous bugs that are not looking like they'll get fixed soon.  Personally, I plan to switch to Ekiga shortly.09:07
_jasontonyyarusso: the problem I see is if you do that, then things like X will be included in the size of some of your packages09:07
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[Rodrigo!search09:08
ubotufrom memory, search is System>Administration>Synaptic, has a search function. Command line are apt-cache search "packagename", or aptitude search "packagename", or you can also do a package search via http://packages.ubuntu.com/<package>09:08
teletubbie_jason, can u plz do apt-cache search scilab09:08
[Rodrigohi09:08
[Rodrigosorry for the noob question09:08
_jasonteletubbie: you only have breezy-backports multiverse enabled, you need breezy multiverse.  Want to use synaptic or edit manually to fix this?09:08
[Rodrigobut i forgot how i search for a document on shell09:08
[Rodrigowhat command i use?09:08
NrbelexOk, so if I want to undo any changes done by Automatix which could be unsafe, is there anything I can do aside from reistalling the OS?09:08
berto-Hi everyone.  I need to upgrade an AMD64 system from 32-bit to 64-bit ubuntu.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this as painless as possible?09:08
_jason[Rodrigo: locate, or find09:08
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[Rodrigo_jason,  thanks :)09:08
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buzzedso skype sucks on linux? anyone able to use it?09:08
Mathmantonyyarusso: skype has always worked pretty much flawlessly for me, aside from the ocassional person being listed as online when they're not.  And this is mac, windows, and linux.09:09
tonyyarusso_jason: True.  Maybe I can script it to compare packages, and only give size of differences, like size(to add kde to existing gnome), size(to add xubuntu to server install), etc.09:09
nyersa[Rodrigo: you might want to update your locate database first09:09
_jasonubotu: tell buzzed about skype09:09
jeff_hannberto:i would recommend fresh install09:09
scifianyone know why a usb to ethernet adaptor works but a direct usb connection to a router doesnt? ^^09:09
tonyyarussobuzzed: I use it, it's just not ideal.09:09
nyersa[Rodrigo: run updatedb as sudo or root09:09
_jasontonyyarusso: sounds like a nice exercize09:09
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tonyyarussoMathman: How d'ya like the part where you can't have any other sound while in a call?09:09
patrick52222im having a problem installing unrar heres the problem=http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1256209:10
Mathmantonyyarusso: never been an issue I don't think.  could be because I run kde and arts I spose?09:10
leagriscan you help with sound issues? any sound plays abnormally slow like 10x time slower as normal09:10
_jasonpatrick52222: unrar is in multiverse09:10
_jasonuse apt09:10
tonyyarussoMathman: Yeah, I think it's an ESD or OSS thing.09:11
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patrick52222_jason: wat does that mean09:11
_jasonubotu: tell patrick52222 about multiverse09:11
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_jasonubotu: tell patrick52222 about synaptic09:11
_jasonpatrick52222: multiverse is a repository and synaptic is an apt front-end to let you isntall things from it09:12
tonyyarussobuzzed: In other words, a lot of things work, and I have gotten a lot of good use out of Skype.  However, if you find something that doesn't work right, it's not going to get fixed by filing a quick bug report like in other apps.09:12
patrick52222ok09:12
scifidoes ubuntu have its own equivalent to the windows task manager?09:12
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berto-jeff_hann, ok, thanks09:12
Mathmanscifi: sure.  bash.  =)09:12
jeff_hannn p09:12
Mathmanscifi: nah, I'm pretty sure gnome has something similar, yeah.09:13
scifimathman: whats it called? :P09:13
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Mathmanscifi: beats me.  I'd need to hunt around the gnome menus, and I don't have one handy.09:13
tonyyarussoscifi: Applications > System Tools > System Monitor.09:13
scifity tonyy, was right in front of me :P09:14
leagrisDapper sound issue. Can you help with sound played very slow on Shuttle SNP25 VT1720/24 audio chip ?09:14
tonyyarussoleagris: Dapper questions in #ubuntu+1, please.09:14
Mathmanleagris: apt-get update?09:14
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useronehello everyone...how can I delete a full directory? I have tried rm -r and also chmod -r to make sure there are no permission issues09:14
wastrelubuntu09:14
leagrisok tonyyarusso09:14
Mathmanuserone: rm -rf /some/directory09:15
leagrisMathman, installed from flight6dvd dans upgraded to latest flight6 with dist_upgrade09:15
NrbelexHow do I get rid of Automatix and anything it may have messed up?09:15
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Mathmanuserone: nautilus would probably work too.09:16
useronemathman: it says rm: cannot open directory 'business': Permission denied09:16
Mathmanuserone: I'd tend to believe it then.09:16
useronemathman: I already tried chmod -r business09:17
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useronemathman: I believe it...I just wanna change it! :-)09:17
martin_Delete a full directory: "sudo rm -rf [nameofdirectory] 09:17
Mathmanuserone: yeah, you could do that.   like he's saying, permissions don't matter really to root.  but you could also just change the permissions so that you'd be allowed to access that directory.09:18
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matt__hey I have a question for anyone09:18
Mathmanuserone: meaning chmod as opposed to chown here.09:18
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useronemathman: how can I change the permissions on a top-level directory, and have all the files and directories contained within change aswell?09:19
Mathmanuserone: or again, this could probably be done via nautilus, if that's your cup of tea.09:19
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matt__I have a question on installing plugins or codecs if anyone can help me out, I'm new to ubuntu09:19
Mathmanuserone: man chown and look for a recursive option?09:19
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userone_martin: sudo rm -rf worked, of course09:19
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martin_Ya09:20
Mathmanuserone: find ./foo -exec chmod09:20
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scifiam i right in saying anything i choose from the system>administration menu will ask for my password?09:20
plutois there any way of installing ubuntu off your hard drive???09:20
Mathmanscifi: maybe09:20
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Tiduslol... klined.09:21
BearPerson*nod*09:21
Mathmanpluto: sure.09:21
ficusplanetHey everyone.  Are there any good UML tools in Linux?09:21
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Seantaterplease, someone, ban lossy09:21
Mathmanficusplanet: umbrello is one.09:21
BearPersonSeantater, ban?09:21
ficusplanetMathman: Cool.  Thanks.09:21
BearPerson-!- lossy [n=qwer@dD5E0293D.access.telenet.be]  has quit [K-lined] 09:21
WildZeckpluto, live cdrom of unbuntu09:21
BearPersonthat trumps a ban anytime :)09:21
arrickSeantater, lossy is a clonebot09:21
Seantater!clonebot09:21
ubotuSeantater: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:21
arricksomeone loosed him and 3 others yesterday09:21
matt__can someone help me install a plugin for .mp3's?!?09:21
Seantaterwhat is a clonebot?09:21
plutomy main prob is that i dont have a black CD09:22
JuhazSeantater, not a person, just a program that automatically spams09:22
plutond my RW is broken at the moment09:22
BearPersonSeantater, basically someone is running a bunch of automated spam programs connecting from various hosts09:22
BearPersonthat one has a global network ban for a while09:22
_jasonubotu: tell matt__ about mp309:22
plutoi have XP installed on one HD nd my second HD is blank09:23
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useronemathman: martin_: thanks for the help...09:23
Seantaterubotu: clonebot is an automated program that spams IRC channels09:23
ubotuokay, Seantater09:23
plutocan i install ubuntu on hd2 then when installed delet windows finally09:23
simonpcaplop09:23
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_jason!forget clonebot09:23
ubotu_jason: i forgot clonebot09:23
_jasonthat's useless09:23
plutophantom Cd wont do it09:23
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matt__Jason09:23
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plutocan anyone help?09:24
buzzedthe main flow of ubuntu users, i would guess, is from other distros and window. Anyone coming from OSX?09:24
_jasonSeantater: sorry, it's just that the higher ups prefer that ubotu knows info that is helpful with ubuntu support and odn't like it to get cluttered09:24
_jasonmatt__: yes?09:24
plutobrb09:25
matt__I read up on the information and I found what I think are what I need to install, but I have no clue how this OS works, i just need help installing them09:25
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patrick52!apache09:25
ubotuwell, apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP09:25
_jasonmatt__: do you know about synaptic?09:25
matt__i know how to get there and then to the repositories, but no clue what either are or how to use them09:26
_jasonmatt__: have you been able to enable the universe repository?09:26
nnyalright, lets see what crappened here.. had to delete my main account, created a secondary, deleted the old account, and tried to relogin, getting multiple gnome errors..09:26
matt__I just put ubuntu on today09:26
scifianyone know if sonys sonicstage software for transferring tracks to sony network walkman/mp3 players has worked on ubuntu?09:26
matt__no how would I do that?09:26
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_jasonmatt__: repositories are basically an online storage site for ubuntu installation packages09:26
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_jasonubotu: tell matt__ about universe09:27
Zoohousehello everyone09:27
_jasonmatt__: once you do that, you need to search for and install the gstreamer0.8-mad package for mp3 support09:27
_jasonubotu: tell matt__ about synaptic09:27
buzzedi would guess that sony generally does not support linux...09:27
matt__the installation, is it about the same as a Windows .exe?09:27
nnyanyone?09:27
ZoohouseA while back I downloaded a game that was a first person shooter. It was very much like Unreal T.  Anyone know the name of the game?09:27
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Seantatermatt__: not even close09:28
scifibuzzed: they dont, but thought someone may have gotten a workaround09:28
matt__yeah that was my problem, i found a couple sites but can't install09:28
Seantatermatt__: It close to the same end-result though09:28
Seantatermatt__:what do you want to install09:28
matt__I was looking at http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/09:28
_jasonmatt__: check out your private messages from ubotu09:28
MathmanZoohouse: you sure you're not talking about that quake clone?  is it an open source app?09:28
matt__well for starters I was trying to find something to play a .mp3, i need the plugin09:28
Seantatermatt__: You can install that without needing to go to the website09:28
matt__yeah I'm readin them ty09:29
MathmanZoohouse: or perhaps the tribes clone?  legends I think it is.09:29
ZoohouseMathman, i don't think it was a quake clone... I am not sure now.. I think the name was something like nja ... something like thaty09:29
matt__quick question.. Drapper, thats the one thats comming out early next month right, we're all on breezy?09:29
MathmanZoohouse: sorry, doesn't ring a bell09:29
Zoohouseit had a weird name09:29
_jasonmatt__: yeah09:30
_jasonmatt__: june 1st is the release date09:30
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matt__how do I do the plugin?09:30
ompaulmatt__, dapper will be called 6.06 breezy stopped being breezy the day it was released in 5.10 which is the version number (year month :-))09:30
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matt__yeah I downloaded some guy's linux podcasts last night and he was explaining that, kinda cool09:31
ompaulmatt__, no its super cool ;-)09:31
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scifihi ompaul: got my internet working, with a usb to ethernet adaptor!! :D09:32
FlannelKingompaul: how did breezy stop being breezy on 5.10?09:32
scifididnt even need a network card09:32
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beastymorning all09:32
SSmithI think I might have figured out what part of the problem I am having is, the Realtek network card i have is listed as experimental when I "make xconfig"09:33
matt__I'm working on the universal right now09:33
ompaulFlannelKing, breezy is the development name :-) the release name is the number, due to the way repos are set up it gets confusing09:33
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matt__I want community maintained "Binary" not "Source" correct?09:34
ompaulFlannelKing, you will hear people talking about woody and sarge and etch in debian it should be 3.0 3.1 and etch as it is still being developed :-)09:34
wastrelbreezy is easier to remember than 5.1009:34
Zoohouse:(09:35
scifii like the idea of using date as version, didnt know that :)09:35
ompaulscifi, :-)09:35
ompaulwastrel, well I remember october last year very well :-)09:36
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scifiompaul: will still need a network switch tho so my 2nd pc can access net via ethernet too09:36
hartzDapper = 6.06 ??09:36
simonpcahartz: oui09:36
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ompaulhartz,  if released in June yes, and it should be09:36
scouthey i installed slapd (openldap) via the package manager...how do i get it to run at startup?09:36
scifieven irc works better in ubuntu, i can see whose talking to Me easily!! :)09:36
buzzedone interesting thing... i have a 256M Muvo usb mp3 player...09:36
FlannelKingso, they decided not to use a dash afterall?09:37
ompaulscifi, have you got a pc or laptop?09:37
buzzedand it shows up as "244.3 MB Removable Volume"09:37
scifi2 desktops09:37
ompaulFlannelKing, well I saw a rumour somewhere of a /09:37
ompaulscifi, so have you got a network card for the box?09:37
buzzedbut it oly has 126MB of free space...09:37
arrickok guys, have a great aftrenoon, Im going fishing09:38
hartzI just ordered 30 5.10 CDs and when they arrived here I had to pay import tax.  IMPORT TAX!!!  For a FREE PRODUCT!  and what is more, I imported it back to South Africa!  Ubuntu's cradle, and the damn government wants it's pound of flesh!09:38
buzzedwhen nothing is on it...09:38
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sfarhow do i run a perl script? with "perl filename.pl" ?09:38
scifi2nd pc has a network card, This pc that i use doesnt, but the adaptor has solved that problem :)09:38
redguysfar: exactly09:38
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arrickhartz, thats why you gotta move local, or have ubuntu pay the shipping and taxes09:38
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redguysfar: or, you could make the first line of the script to be #!/usr/bin/perl -w09:39
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hartzsfar >  If the perl script contains #!/usr/bin/perl  then you can just run it with ./scriptname09:39
buzzedso is the file space issue on basically a usb drive related to linux...09:39
scouthey i installed slapd (openldap) via the package manager...how do i get it to run at startup?09:39
arrickhartz, write them a letter with a copy of the reciept if it really concerns you09:39
redguysfar: chmod +x script.pl and then run it with ./script.pl09:39
arrickok later guys09:39
buzzedoh well , i outta here...09:39
redguyscout: isn't it started on startup?09:40
sfarhartz and redguy: will that be true for ALL perl-scripts? Or is there any scripts that's not really runable?09:40
scoutredguy: dunno where to look, very new to ubuntu09:40
scifiompaul: actually i get either a cheap network card or cheap modem/router (all in one solution)09:40
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scifinetwork switch*09:40
hartzarrick > It is not worth the $5.50 equivalent I had to pay (About R34.50)... It is just a matter of principle.09:40
buzzedgoing to get a Sandisk Sansa e140 any thoughts on that is a mp3 player for linux?09:40
FlannelKinghartz: didyou explain to them that it is indeed free?09:40
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FlannelKinghartz: since, Ive heard about import stuff before, but people just had to take teh time to explain how the software was actually free.09:41
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hartzsfar > If the first line of the script is #!/usr/bin/perl, then your shell will use that as interpreter. Otherwise, use "perl script.pl"09:41
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beastyanyone else has probs using a mx300 mouse ?09:42
hartzFlannel I tried.  But how do you explain to a post-office worker in a third world country what Linux is?09:42
scifiam i ok to install java via firefox?09:42
scoutredguy: how do i check if its already set to load on start? for instance in gentoo i had to rc-update...09:42
redguyscout: well, in ubuntu (and in Debian in general) we have update-rc.d09:43
hartzFlannelKing> BTW my previous orders (10 CDs or so each) were always free, it is only my last big order that I had to pay import tax for.09:43
ompaulscifi, best is always a cheap router no depending on the other box to work etc09:43
scoutredguy: cool i'm lookin forward to learning that. thanks i'll play with that now.,09:43
redguyscout: ls -l /etc/rc`runlevel | cut -f 2 -d" "`.d/ | grep slapd09:43
mcf501does anyone have troubles with Gdesklets and dapper?09:44
redguyscout: this might tell you if slapd is started on the current runlevel09:44
hartzHmmmmm.... I'm trying to get sound from my rear speakers using "sound-test", but no luck....09:44
scifiompaul: so with a network switch main pc has to be on for 2nd pc to access the net, even tho both are plugged into the router via the switch?09:44
scoutls -l /etc/rc  'runlevel | cut -f 2 -d" "'.d/ | grep slapd09:44
scoutls: /etc/rc: No such file or directory09:44
scoutls: runlevel | cut -f 2 -d" ".d/: No such file or directory09:44
Matic`Makovechey guys, how do you deal with cpkg packages?09:45
scoutredguy: wait i copied pasted this time09:45
redguyscout: check the commandline I gave you again09:45
scoutredguy: lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 15 Apr 19 15:24 S19slapd -> ../init.d/slapd09:45
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redguyscout: it's ` not ' and there are less sapces09:45
ompaulscifi, switch != router09:45
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ompaulscifi, for two boxes simple hub would be useful09:45
redguyscout: well, S signifies that the service is started09:46
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scoutredguy: thats a bit more complex then i'mused to :P09:46
scoutredguy: ok09:46
Matic`Makovec!tell Matic`Makovec about cpkg09:46
scifiompaul: i thought hub/switch are the same, router is different09:46
hartzTha ALSA speaker-test only produces sound from front left and front read, none of the other channels produce any sound09:46
Matic`Makovecah well09:46
ompaulscifi, point brain is tired :-)09:47
scifii just tried installing java via firefox and it says not available09:47
scifiompaul, no worries :)09:47
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redguyscout: there might be an easier way, read update-rc.d manpage for some info09:47
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scifiam i ok to use the self-extracting java files for linux from the java website?09:50
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teletubbie!firefox09:50
teletubbie!firefox1.509:50
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion09:50
scoutredguy: thanks man appreciate the help ;)09:50
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scifior is there a better way?09:51
mcf501How and i stop Gdesklets from crashing on start up?09:51
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scifineone?09:52
mcf501scifi: yea your fine09:53
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ZoohouseI found the game :D09:53
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scifiis there a way of doing it within ubuntu, i.e synaptic package manager?09:54
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ElazarI'm using acidrip to rip a DVD to an Xvid AVI file and the audio sync is off. Any suggestions on how to get it right?09:55
mcf501not that i am aware of, there is blackdown java which you can apt-get09:55
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blindxin dos, there's the | more function to make the text stop when it fills up the screen.. how do you do this in linux?09:56
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blindxhaha nevermind09:56
blindxit's just the |more thing09:56
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scifihmmm whats going on, suddenly the "add applications" entry in applications menu doesnt execute when i click on it :O09:57
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hartzblindx, try less, because less is more, just more.09:58
blindxhartz, what?09:58
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hartzblindx > command | less09:58
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robcasarciao09:58
hartzblindx "less" allows you to go backwards by typing "b"09:58
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blindxI see.09:58
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Elazarblindx: I think you can use the arrow keys with less also, and use Ctl+f and Ctl+b to go one screen forward and backward respectively.09:59
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hartzblindx Some usefull keys:  u and d god up and down HALF a screenfull at a time.  ENTER is down ONE line.  Space is down a screen-full. q = quit09:59
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rossiniohi, this may be a bit of a noob question but is it possible to install ubuntu on a zen micro without damaging the boot table or anything (it can act as a usb disk under windows)09:59
robcasaranybody use wine with amd64?09:59
slewis there a shockwave player for linux anywhere?10:00
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PolypterusHi. Is there any program available that can display detailed information about my hardware, like RAM and CPU etc? Something like Everest Home for Windows.10:00
accumulatorrossinio: no problem10:00
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NoUse!shockwave10:00
ubotuUnfortunately there is no shockwave available for Linux (unless you use wine).  Please lobby Macromedia!10:00
Ribsrobcasar: I use Cedega and Crossover... Never been able to get wine to play ball for some reason :/10:00
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Cooner750FINALLY. Is it hard enough to get in here!?10:00
UBUNTUUSER2002I have a serious problem10:00
UBUNTUUSER2002I had to boot on the Live CD10:00
hartzblindx > but the most usefull aspect of less (and more) is SEARCHING!!!  start a less on a file, then type /XXXXX and it wil find the next occurence of XXXX and highlight it.10:00
UBUNTUUSER2002i installed ubuntu yesturday and installed the  nvidia drivers10:01
blindxwow, nice.10:01
blindxthanks hartz10:01
robcasari don't know how compile my wine :)10:01
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redguyUBUNTUUSER2002: did you use any guide?10:01
UBUNTUUSER2002i booted up x today and it says it cant start x because the nvidia drivers dont match kernal10:01
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robcasari got an stupid error10:01
Ribsrobcasar: I know for a fact that wine does not compile in amd64 yet. Use binary packages.10:01
NoUserobcasar winehq.com has apt repos10:01
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UBUNTUUSER2002how do i uninstall the drivers from command line??10:01
tylerHey how do I make files ending in '~' not appear in my GUI?10:01
eytyxioshello, is there a program to setup hardware? I have problems with a 6button mice (gm4200)10:01
Ribsrobcasar: But even with binary packages, I couldn't get wine to work... then again, I didn't try too hard.10:02
redguyrobcasar: AFAIK wine does not work on 64 bit platform...10:02
robcasarfor amd64 ? .... are you seure?10:02
hartzblindx > You can even search backwards in a file Using ?XXXX in stead of /XXXX.  Cheack out the man page - there's a HOST of options and settings you can use!10:02
robcasarah10:02
NoUserobcasar oh sorry, I dont know about AMD6410:02
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hartzUBUNTUUSER That's a good question!  but you could of course just reverse the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file changes10:03
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UKMattis there a middle click scroll in Ubuntu?10:03
Cooner750what is the deal with all of the trouble to get in here?10:03
UBUNTUUSER2002hartz how?10:03
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PolypterusIs there any program available for Linux (using Ubuntu of course) that can display detailed information about my hardware, like RAM and CPU etc?10:03
hartzUBUNTUUSER2002, can you get into the /etc/X11 directory?10:03
ompaulCooner750, there was a bot attack on the network that was to stop bots getting in here and causing disruption10:04
openandfreePolypterus yes10:04
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openandfreegoogle is your friend10:04
UBUNTUUSER2002can i do it frm the live cd?10:04
scifii get following error when doing sudo apt-get for flash-plugin: sudo: /usr/sbin/update-flashplugin: command not found10:04
Cooner750I was about to just give up altogether10:04
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openandfreeone tip - sensors (find a frontend)10:04
teletubbiecan some one download ffox 1.5 for me?10:04
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KurtKrautI have a Breezy server and when my server is rebooted, the file /etc/resolv.conf is cleared. How can I avoid Breezy from loosing the nameserver condifuration ?10:04
teletubbiemy ffox 1.x got error when trying to dl10:04
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jadaz87teletubbie ?10:04
Polypterusopenandfree: do you know the name of the program?10:04
jadaz87teletubbie you can use another browser10:04
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teletubbieI don't have another one :\10:05
Cooner750If I can get my temper back down from trying to join the channel I'll ask my ubuntu-related question10:05
jadaz87teletubbie you can install it10:05
teletubbielike what10:05
openandfreePolypterus no, but i know it exists10:05
hartzUBUNTUUSER2002, No, you cannot access the hard drive from the Live CD.10:05
Polypterusopenandfree: ok mate , thanks10:05
bohanhi, i'm looking for an equivalent to the debootstrap script, but couldn't see it at the ubuntu.com site10:05
hartzUBUNTUUSER2002, boot normally, then press CTRL-ALT-F1 to get a Terminal login session.  Log in, then type sudo -s to become root10:06
jadaz87can someone tell me what Espresso is? and if i install it on a livecd what it whould do?10:06
openandfreePolypterus you always have the system monitor, which tells you the amount of cpu and ram usage10:06
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UBUNTUUSER2002ok hart10:06
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UBUNTUUSER2002how do i fix it from there?10:06
KurtKrautjadaz87, Espresso is a Ubuntu installer that can be runned from a LiveCD. In our next release, called Dapper, you'll be able to install Ubuntu in the computer from the LiveCD.10:07
ksafejoin ubuntu-cn10:07
slewPolypterus, have you looked at the system monitor?10:07
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rukuarticHeyo everyone...10:07
hartzUBUNTUUSER2002, Once you are logged in as root, go to /etc/X11 and view what files.  If there is a backup config files (xorg.conf.bak or something similar, restore that to xorg.conf).  Otherwise edit the file and remove the nv or nvidia references, by replacing it"vesa" with10:07
bohanok, bye.. channel is too crowded10:08
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Polypterusopenandfree: yes mate I know about that one, but I'd like something to display for example what kind of RAM, CPU and HD I have. Very handy when hardware upgrade is necessary.10:08
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UBUNTUUSER2002how do i edit it?10:08
slewPolypterus, oooh ok. sorry then. =] 10:08
PolypterusI use gkrellm for memory usage and stuff10:08
Polypterusvery nice program10:08
jadaz87ubuntu makes the news once again :-) http://news.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/04/19/1547230&from=rss10:09
hartzUBUNTUUSER2002, , once in the /etc/X11 dir, type "nano xorg.conf"10:09
jadaz87what is the channel for edgy?10:09
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openandfreePolypterus take a look at your /proc/ directory and see the contents of those text files, they tell you much things about your hardware10:09
ompauljadaz87, but there will be nothing there yet i imagine dapper+110:09
hartzUBUNTUUSER2002, nano is an easy-to-use terminal (cli) text editor - you can use arrow keys, etc.10:09
openandfreefor instance - cat /proc/cpuinfo10:10
mzinzHey how do I make files ending in '~' not appear in my GUI?10:10
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rukuarticUBUNTUUSER2002: (cli = command line interface)10:10
hartzUBUNTUUSER2002, The important thing is, replace the Driver "nv" or "Driver "nvidia" with Driver "vesa".10:10
djk_does anyone know of a way to convert chm to pdf or ps ?10:11
hartzUBUNTUUSER2002, Once you saved the file, enter /etc/init.d/gdm restart (Or reboot)10:11
Polypterusopenandfree: oh, cool. nice110:11
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hartzdammit10:11
scifii cant get java to install using apt-get, can anyone help?10:11
slewscifi, check the ubuntu wiki10:12
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Polypterushttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c24910:13
scifislew: i have used the commands on the ubuntu wiki10:13
bur[n] erdjk_: there's a chm viewer if i recall... then maybe you can print to a pdf printer?10:13
Polypterusah, beat me to it slew :)10:13
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mzinzWhats a really good system monitor plugin for SuperKaramba?10:13
scifio right thats different to what i saw10:14
Cooner750I think my temper has finally cooled off. What is the command to reconfigure the X server? I took out a space-wasting heat-generating AGP video card and reconnected the monitor to the onboard video and it crashes to the X server blue screen10:14
slewscifi, yeah, its a bit diffrent, just take your time. =] 10:14
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djk_bur[n] er: there are a few. xCHM doesn't support that, and there aren't any others in the repos.10:14
teletubbiehow do you start epiphany?10:14
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teletubbieI just installed it but the command is not there :\10:15
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diggyzCan someone help me please? ill try boot my ubuntu livecd and all i get is the mousepointer and the brown backgrounds.. no icons or something like that =(10:15
diggyzworked fine on my friends computer10:15
slewCooner750, sudo dpkg-reconfigure x-server10:15
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rukuarticdiggyz: How old is your comp, out of interest? And are there any icons to appear on the desktop? Do you get the menu bars?10:15
scifihmmm whats going on, suddenly the "add applications" entry in applications menu doesnt execute when i click on it :O10:16
mzinzWhats the KDE program Ark do?10:16
hartzCooner750, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:16
diggyzrukuartic: no bars, no icons, nothign more then pointer and background color.. computer is a amd64 3500+10:16
Rondom_mzinz: it's for archives10:16
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Rondom_mzinz: extracting, creating and so on10:16
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rukuarticdiggyz: Out of interest, did you see if there was a 64 bit live CD availiable? did you download it if there was?10:17
flithmhey everyone... is there a repo somewhere for up to date nvidia drivers?10:17
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Warboflithm: Dapper now has the latest10:17
hartzslew do you know how to get sound from the rear speakers?10:17
geronimo_who in hell is using my fine nickname?10:17
diggyzrukuartic: there is a 64bit livecd out, but i downloaded the nprmal i386 cause i wanted it for my other computer also10:18
jadaz87!language10:18
ubotuPlease watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.10:18
apokryphosgeronimo_: if you registered it you can just kick them using ghost10:18
flithmWarbo, gotcha... is upgrading to dapper generally recommended? :)10:18
Warboflithm: I don't think anyone will bother adding them to Breezy10:18
slewhartz, sorry, i only have the headphones.10:18
geronimo_apokryphos, a god damn bot is using it O_O10:18
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accumulator!mplayer10:18
ubotusomebody said mplayer was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106110:18
HedgeMagegeronimo_: if you are having problems with your freenode nick, just /msg me or any other freenode staffer for help10:18
jadaz87!tel geronimo_ about language10:18
ubotujadaz87: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:18
geronimo_oh, this is freenode?10:18
apokryphosgeronimo_: /msg nickserv ghost username password10:19
apokryphosgeronimo_: yes10:19
geronimo_yay10:19
jadaz87!tell geronimo_ about language10:19
hartzubuto who said something rude!!!!?  who? who!?10:19
geronimo_jadaz87, stop spam10:19
Warboflithm: Well, I wouldn't recommend it if you are happy with Breezy. The only things I like about it are tiny things like a slightly better "Extract Here" in Nautilus. Not worth it if you are on Breezy though10:19
jadaz87geronimo_ stop with your language10:19
scifishud i grant the "stop thread" runtimepermission when configuring java?10:19
apokryphosjadaz87: stop10:19
geronimo_jadaz87, my language is fine10:19
flithmWarbo, actually I'm not that happy with Breezy at all... all the packages are so old!  is there an automated upgrade procedure?10:19
jadaz87and i have not spammed anyway10:20
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trainstrokercan i write to ntfs on ubuntu?10:20
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trainstrokerits a windows partition10:20
jadaz87trainstroker no you can not, you can read from it10:20
trainstrokerfack10:20
Warboflithm: If you really want to upgrade then the easiest way is to open up "/etc/apt/sources.list" as super user and change every "breezy" to "dapper", then update and dist-upgrade apt (or Synaptic)10:20
trainstrokersotheres no way to do it10:20
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flithmWarbo, gotcha... thanks :)10:21
zFtrainer, I know there's someway to do it, but I forget.10:21
flithmWarbo, so update all the packages first... then dist-upgrade?10:21
scifineone pls?10:21
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thesaltydogdapper does not automatically upgrade gconf tree to the new merged-tree in gconf2?10:21
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Klownergaah why did I upgrade to dapper10:22
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flithmheh10:22
Klowneractually, it's quite nice and usable, but there's no inkscape10:22
zimhi all how can i rm -Rf *.m4a that will look in all dirs from ./10:22
Warboflithm: The "update" refers to apt updating it's lists of packages and "upgrade" refers to actually getting the newer packages, that is the general use of those terms10:22
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flithmWarbo, thanks10:22
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diggyzif i have a amd64 do i need the amd64 version of the live cd then? or nornal i386 works fine?10:22
Klownerzim: probably using the find command, somehow.. one sec, I'll googly10:22
zimty10:23
slewdiggyz, you prolly want the 64bit version10:23
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Warbodiggyz: Both should work but amd64 should make full use of your hardware10:23
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scifishud i grant the "stop thread" runtimepermission when configuring java?10:23
diggyzokey thanks10:23
Klownerzim:  here ya go  http://www.tech-recipes.com/unix_tips129.html10:23
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zimty10:23
accumulatorzim: for i in `find / -name *m4a`; do rm -i $i; done10:23
Klowneror accumulator's method10:24
mzinzMy sound works perfectly in Gnome,but won't work in KDE... What can i do?10:24
diggyzcause my livecd cant start, i just got the mousepointer and backgrounds brown10:24
diggyzthen i stops10:24
apokryphoszim: you'll want a ./ there instead of a /10:24
zimi was just about to ask that10:24
apokryphosaccumulator: that'll remove all m4as on his hard-drive :)10:24
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accumulatorsorry. good thing I put the -i in :)10:25
vinboyhi10:25
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vinboyhow do I defrag my ext3 filesystem?10:25
Warbodigyz: That sounds like it might be a problem with one of the programs. Usually if it is a major problem like x86 not working on amd64 then it would get an error WAY before then. Which type of disc do you have and which version (breezy or dapper)10:25
zimwhat is the -i10:25
jadaz87vinboy there is not need to defrag it10:25
jadaz87no*10:25
apokryphoszim: prompt before removing10:25
diggyzWarbo:10:25
zimok10:25
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accumulatorzim: interactive. it asks for confirmation10:25
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vinboyjadaz87: ok thanks10:25
diggyzWarbo: ubuntu-5.10-live-amd64.iso10:25
scifishud i grant the "stop thread" runtimepermission when configuring java or not?10:25
zimkewl10:25
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zimSo this will just do it but from the point i enter the command--->for i in `find ./ -name *m4a`; do rm $i; done10:27
accumulatoryep10:27
kiko0123is there any Grub (boot loader) settings app in ubuntu ?10:27
trainstrokercan i write to ntfs on ubuntu?10:27
zimty all10:27
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accumulatortrainstroker: no10:27
apokryphostrainstroker: no; ntfs-writing on GNU/Linux is highly experimental and unstable10:27
Warbodiggyz: That sounds like it should run fine on your hardware. How long have you left it? (because some people have found that it takes ages to load, but that's still a problem, just not as major as nothing coming up). I would actually suggest installing Ubuntu, to see if it works. Basically the Live CD has to work out what hardware you have, but an installation can remember10:27
apokryphosblame Microsoft10:27
accumulatortrainstroker: well partially. ntfs support is very limited10:27
jadaz87vinboy you are most welcome10:28
trainstrokerkk10:28
scifishud i grant the "stop thread" runtimepermission when configuring java? pls help!10:28
prgrmri try update my fire-fox to 1.5.0.2, and now fire-fox not working, what can i do?10:28
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trainstrokercan i create a shortcut to a folder buried deeep in an ntfs partition10:28
accumulatorscifi: ehh yes!10:28
apokryphostrainstroker: of course10:28
trainstrokerhow10:28
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trainstrokeri tried to create a link10:28
rukuartictrainstroker: ln -s shortcut /path/to/your/long/folder10:28
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trainstrokersudo?10:28
apokryphosrukuartic: other way round10:28
surfdue_lappyhello firefox tries to play videos with totem, i want it to use mplayer10:29
surfdue_lappyhow do i remove totem?10:29
Warbotrainstroker: There is no reliable way of changing NTFS drives (saving, moving, etc to them) but there are partially successful methods now, based on FUSE. They will NOT destroy your drive if they fail though, which is nice10:29
rukuarticapokryphos: Thanks10:29
scifiaccumulator: it says its potentially unsafe10:29
mzinzMy sound works perfectly in Gnome,but won't work in KDE... What can i do?10:29
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apokryphostrainstroker: no need if you're putting the shortcut in a place where your user can write to10:29
rukuartictrainstroker: Might need to if you have to be root to access the drive10:29
apokryphosmzinz: aplay some.wav. Sound output?10:29
prgrmri try update my fire-fox to 1.5.0.2, and now fire-fox not working, what can i do?10:29
accumulatorscifi: you can write to files, but not append to them10:29
mzinzwhere can i find a .wav sound10:29
trainstrokerrok when i tried to create a short cut. the target has spaces it (My Documents)10:29
apokryphosmzinz: locate *.wav10:30
scifiaccumulator: i'll choose "yes" then :)10:30
apokryphosmzinz: or go into KDE control center and go to Sound and "Test Sound"10:30
diggyzWarbo: i have waited for like 1h before i gave up :)10:30
mzinzapokryphos: wheres the control center?10:30
mzinzapokryphos: oh, kcontrol10:30
apokryphosmzinz: or systemsettings, as in the K Menu10:30
Warbotrainstroker: In a command line you can put a backslash before a character to use spaces, slashes, etc. (so "ln -s /windowsfolder/My\ Documents /home/Windows\ Documents")10:30
cih997Anyone know how play MP3 on Ubuntu Live CD ?10:31
accumulatormzinz: yeah I lost that one as well!10:31
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Warbodiggyz: Oh. Well, I would reccomend an installation. If it doesn't work then you can always delete it10:31
teletubbiehow do I get flash to work with epiphany10:31
Newbuntuis anyone here on konqueror?10:31
accumulatorno KDE Control Center entry anywhere in the menu10:31
Warboteletubbie: Does it work with Firefox?10:31
mzinzapokryphos: it works.10:31
mzinzapokryphos: meaning i need the mp3 package10:31
prgrmri try update my fire-fox to 1.5.0.2, and now fire-fox not working, what can i do?10:31
mzinzapokryphos: why do i need it again even if i have it in gnome?10:32
Newbuntufirefox keeps crashing repetively for me10:32
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apokryphosmzinz: are you using a different player?10:32
apokryphosmzinz: check the Kubuntu FAQ on http://kubuntu.org10:32
teletubbieWarbo, nope10:32
mzinzapokryphos: xmms.10:32
teletubbieI installed flash from apt10:32
mzinz!mp310:32
Laneynp: Grandmaster Flash - The Roof Is On Fire10:32
Laneynp: Grandmaster Flash - The Roof Is On Fire10:32
ubotufrom memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:32
apokryphosmzinz: don't use that :P10:32
accumulatorprgrmr: did you add a source in /etc/apt/sources.list?10:32
scifihow do i update firefox?10:32
mzinzapokryphos: why?10:33
teletubbie!flash10:33
ubotuInstallation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:33
apokryphosLaney: ?10:33
jadaz87!tell scifi about ff1.510:33
Warboteletubbie: Do you know how to enable Universe and install the flashplayer-mozilla package? (someone correct me if that package name is wrong)10:33
diggyzWarbo: okey thanks for your help10:33
apokryphosmzinz: because it sucks. There are far better mp3 players10:33
mzinzapokryphos: ohh dont use xmms10:33
Newbuntui need someone in conqueror to tell me if the see this flash site as normal .. http://www.dead.net/index2.php10:33
kiko0123Is there any Grub (bootloader) configuration application on ubuntu ?10:33
mzinzapokryphos: like what? BMPx?10:33
duelbootLaney, let it burn   lol10:33
apokryphos!players10:33
ubotusomebody said players was Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC10:33
scifity jadaz10:33
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jadaz87scifi you are most welcome10:34
Newbuntusorry that was konqueror10:34
duelbootamaroK rocks apokryphos10:34
apokryphosindeed :)10:34
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WarboNewbuntu: I heard that mozilla plugins will work in Konqueror. Is this true?10:34
prgrmraccumulator, i don't know i used https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion10:34
apokryphosthey don't10:34
prgrmri don't remember10:35
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Newbuntuwarbo some do, macromedia flash being one of them and java10:35
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nemstersomehow i suddenly have all edubuntu logos nd stuff here, how can i switch to ubuntu?10:35
Newbuntuits a bit tricky though and I can view certain pages10:35
zimhere is a long shot is there a command line app that will convert m4a to mp310:36
WarboNewbuntu: I do like Konqueror (even though I use GNOME) but I wasn't sure how easily the general Mozilla/Firefox plugins work, which is all anybody really makes plugins for10:36
rukuarticnemster: Search for "gnome"10:36
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rukuarticnemster: In Synaptic that is10:36
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nemsterrukuartic: ok10:36
Newbuntuthey work but need serious tweaking10:37
rukuarticnemster: Just a common sense thing... try checking the wiki though. might have more detailed instructions10:37
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nemsterrukuartic: thanks10:37
accumulatorprgrmr: there's removal instructions at the bottom of the page10:37
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Kaya_Nemster > you dont goto yahoo chat do you?10:37
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mrazstera mirc n00b question...how do I reg my name on irc10:37
accumulatormirc?10:38
nemsteri just booted my ubuntu here on the notebook for a long time, i usually use gentoo and windows10:38
duelboot!register10:38
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration10:38
nemsterKaya_: nah not really10:38
blindx./nickserv register password email10:38
accumulatorMIRC??10:38
mrazsteryes Mirc10:38
prgrmraccumulator, i can't see this page 10:38
Kaya_Nemster > ok np's its just i know someone who does called Mr.Nemster, thought it might be you =o)10:38
mzinzWhats a good audio player for kubuntu?10:38
scifijadaz87: it says: cp: cannot stat `signons.txt': No such file or directory10:38
scifi, when i try to backup firefox settings10:38
prgrmri can't use FF10:38
blindxWhy are you using mirc? :\10:38
Newbuntumozilla is very buggy for  ubuntu i find10:38
Kaya_mzinz > amarok10:38
accumulatorprgrmr: ahh no browser? :)10:38
prgrmryes :)10:39
blindxmzinz: xmms ftw10:39
nemsteris there anything i have to do besides dist-upgrade to get the most bleeding edge ubuntu here?10:39
mrazsterblindx: thnx m810:39
Warbomzinz: Amarok has all the features you could want, but takes loads of memory10:39
mzinzKaya_: amarok seems bulky, whats so good about it?10:39
Kaya_just a nice UI imo10:39
ompaul!register10:39
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration10:39
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mrazsterff10:39
nemsteri have compiz and xgl running here too, tho its a intel 855 centrino chip it runs quite nice10:39
duelbootompaul, copycat :)10:40
mrazsterdd10:40
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accumulator!porn10:40
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ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, accumulator10:40
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Warbomzinz: Amarok includes loads of plying enginges and output plugins, it has built in AidioScrobbler and last.fm, Amazon covers, Wikipedia info on bands, Musicbrainz ID3 info, etc.10:40
ompaulduelboot, so that is true10:40
mrazsterd10:40
ompaul!CoC10:40
ubotucoc is probably the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/10:40
teletubbieMy system use nvsound kernel module. it uses OSS. how do I configure software mixing with oss?10:40
ompaulaccumulator, ^^10:40
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trainstrokerok iopen my desktop folder in therminal. i type this: sudo ln -s /media/sda2/documents\ and\ settings/trainstroker/my\ documents/my\ music10:40
trainstroker. and i get a broken shortcut10:40
teletubbiehow do I know if my card support hardware mixing??10:40
accumulatorthanks10:40
mzinzWarbo: oh wow10:41
Warbomzinz: Is that sarcastic, or genuine?10:41
mzinzWarbo: no i meant it10:41
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Warbomzinz: :)10:41
Blissexteletubbie: odds are it does not unless it is a SB or an Audigy10:41
nemstergrrr.10:41
teletubbieso how do I setup software mixing with oss?10:41
trainstroker. and i get a broken shortcut10:42
trainstroker. and i get a broken shortcut10:42
trainstrokerok iopen my desktop folder in therminal. i type this: sudo ln -s /media/sda2/documents\ and\ settings/trainstroker/my\ documents/my\ music10:42
trainstrokeranyone?10:42
zimi am trying to convert loads of m4as tp mp3 is ther ea command line tool for the job ???10:42
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nemsteri tried to switch the keybord layout and now the window manager style changed somehow and not the layout10:42
scifi when i try to backup firefox settings10:42
Warbotrainstroker: Linux is case sensitive (Documents\ and\ Settings, etc.)10:42
accumulatorzim: transcode or sox10:42
jadaz87does anyone know where a user's desktop settings are kept?10:42
trainstrokero okj10:42
teletubbie!oss10:43
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, teletubbie10:43
zimwhat is the command10:43
XamDMjadaz87, which desktop ?? gnome xfce ???10:43
jadaz87gnome10:43
jadaz87xamdm^^10:43
Warbojadaz87: In your home dir (show hidden files) General settings applied to all users by default are in /etc/skel10:43
rob138hi, just yesterday my gnome crashed.  all i can tell about how it happened is that i tried to change the theme, and then my date/time and other panel applets crashed, then when i restarted gdm, it wouldn't load after the login screen and splash, the panels would just keep loading and failing and my keyboard wouldn't allow me to switch to tty1 or anything...10:43
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XamDMjadaz87, somewhere in .gnome .gnome2 i think10:43
jadaz87Warbo which folder?10:43
teletubbie!esd10:44
ompaultrainstroker, please can you keep all your idea, or comments to one single line, multiple lines are bad for the channel and make it hard to follow your request, thanks10:44
JayGueretteI'm a long time user of Redhat, from 5.x through to current Fedora. The one thing I hate, is the10:44
teletubbiehow do I setup esd to use oss?10:44
Warbojadaz87: They are generally named due to the program. .gnome2 keeps GNOME settings, but it is easier to edit them with Apps>System Tools>Configuration Editor10:44
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scifii get cp: cannot stat `signons.txt': No such file or directory when trying to backup firefox settings10:44
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jadaz87WArbo xamdm thanks10:44
XamDMjadaz87, np10:45
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dani_Alguien habla espaol??????10:45
ompaul!es10:45
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:45
JayGueretteI'm a long time user of Redhat, from 5.x through to current Fedora. The one thing I hate, is the monolitic upgrades. Having to take the box down and upgrade from CDs. Is it true of Debian derivatives that you can endlessly upgrade, only rebooting for kernel updates?10:45
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WarboJayGuerette: More so with regular Debian than Ubuntu, but only because Debian can use names like "stable" and "testing" which always point to latest version, on Ubuntu you have to change your package sources to point to latest version10:47
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teletubbie!sound10:48
ubotusomebody said sound was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary10:48
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ompaulJayGuerette, yes, as long as you stick to the sources that come with the machine, you can use things like debfoster to manage where you started with a machine, as warbo says but the change is not that big as you change one word on many lines in a single config file (hoary - breezy) was one case :)10:48
JayGueretteHmmm10:48
scifii get cp: cannot stat `signons.txt': No such file or directory when trying to backup firefox setting  ne ideas guys?10:49
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UKMattDoes anybody here run Wine?10:49
jadaz87WArbo lets say i configure gnome right? what folder whould i drop into /etc/skel10:49
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rukuarticUKMatt: I do10:50
JayGueretteThanks! I'll check out debfoster.10:50
hartzscifi, That means the file is nout found.  I notice that there is no path to the file specified, so some process (the one reporting the error) is looking for the file in it's working directory10:50
ompaulscifi, /home/username/.mozilla/firefox/other-funny-name.default/signons.txt10:50
teletubbiecan't you install Limewire through apt?10:50
splattajadaz87: you don't put anything in /etc/skell, /etc/skell contains examples10:51
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jadaz87splatta i am customizing a livecd10:51
bimberi!limewire10:51
ubotufirst you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.10:51
splattajadaz87 : ahh nm10:51
JayGuerettedebfoster deprecated in favor of aptitude10:51
UKMatt!java10:51
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs10:51
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FlannelKingJayGuerette: aptitude has debfoster capabilities?10:52
teletubbie!java10:52
ompaulJayGuerette, now that makes me get frustrated10:52
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JayGuerettedebfoster site says use aptitude10:52
ompaulJayGuerette,  sudo apt-get install debfoster10:53
BlissexFlannelKing: it is one of the examples in the Aptitude docs...10:53
jadacyrusDoes anyone know if Ubuntu breezy or dapper will run on a Dell poweredge 2500, just wondering if it has support for the RAID controller / scsi drives10:53
ompaulJayGuerette,  use what your distro has :-)10:53
FlannelKingBlissex: I've never used aptitude10:53
ompaul!tell JayGuerette about repos10:53
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jlhenry I got this error: http://squid-cache.bestwebcover.com/mail-archive/squid-users/200402/0221.html10:53
rukuarticjadacyrus: Tried looking in the wiki?10:53
jlhenryI mean that i have TCP_MISS/403 error code that I want to replace with TCP_DENIED/40310:53
jlhenryIt says that: "Or you could filter TCP_MISS/403 with no hierarchy code and replace them  with TCP_DENIED. "10:53
jlhenrybut i do not have a clue how I can do that10:53
jlhenryany idea10:53
jlhenry?10:54
jadacyrusrukuartic: link?10:54
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zFWhat's the package I need to play flash in firefox?10:54
scifihartz/ompaul: i liked in there cant see it ompaul, not even sure what im meant to do with it once i find it, the signons.txt was included in part of the command to backup firefox settings10:54
rukuarticjadacyrus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com10:54
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scifilooked*10:54
rukuarticjadacyrus: New here?10:54
jadacyrusthx10:54
JayGuerettelol, no, I'm a Fedora user thinking of switching to a Debian flavor to do slipstream upgrades intead of monolithic ones10:54
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JayGueretteI hate taking my box down10:54
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zimhelp to the guys that helped me before i closed the wrong box now can see that command you gave me to remove m4as pls scroll up and give it back ty10:55
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FlannelKingzim: how long ago was it?10:55
trainstrokerok iopen my desktop folder in therminal. i type this: sudo ln -s /media/sda2/documents\ and\ settings/trainstroker/my\ documents/my\ music . can someone help10:55
zim5 - 10 min10:55
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zimi posed the on i need with the ---->10:56
rhalffanyone happen to have a samsung 930BF ?10:56
=== rhalff yep this belongs in a forum :p
ompaulaccumulator zim: for i in `find / -name *m4a`; do rm -i $i; done that one?10:56
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zimty10:56
splattatrainstroker: case sensetive?10:57
jadaz87hello i am having a problem where when i use sudo in the terminal it just hangs10:57
zimclose buy i can work it out from there10:57
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scifipls help, i dont feel im getting anywhere with this firefox update :P10:57
trainstrokersplatta: yeah10:57
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splattatrainstroker: is your folder documents and settings or Documents and Settings ?10:58
trainstrokerthe latter10:58
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splattatrainstroker: and your command you listed above is using lowr case letters, it won't work10:58
trainstrokeri changed it10:59
trainstrokeri copied and pasted its location10:59
trainstrokerhold on im trying something10:59
trainstrokeri think i know the problem10:59
ompaul!enter10:59
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.10:59
ompaultrainstroker, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^10:59
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trainstroker?10:59
trainstrokeroh11:00
trainstrokeri get it11:00
jadaz87hello i am having a problem where when i use sudo in the terminal it just hangs with a blinking cursor11:00
trainstrokersorry. i am going to have a go at this11:00
ompaultrainstroker, keep all your words on the one line, and use a command to keep the ideas together, thanks11:00
rukuarticjadaz87: what command line are you asking?11:00
rukuarticsending that is11:00
ompauls/command/comma11:00
simonpcaa++, je vais manger | i'm gonna eat something, bye11:00
jadaz87rukuartic sudo perl /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl11:00
rukuarticjadaz87: You have to type in your password (and while you are typing, nothing shows up to hide your pw...)11:01
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zFWhat's the package I need to play flash in firefox?11:01
jadaz87rukuartic no it does not even get to the pasword entry11:01
scifi;*(11:01
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DBOjadaz87, try typing "sudo echo "test""11:01
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ompaulscifi, are you trying to run 1.5?11:01
DBOjadaz87, does it echo test?11:01
ScreaminIkehi. where can i find a working installation of lilypond? the one in the repositories is messed up.11:02
jadaz87DBO nope11:02
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scifiompaul: im trying to update to 1.5, but wiki says run this backup command 1st11:02
rukuarticjadaz87: Are you in the sudoers file?11:02
jadaz87rukuartic yes11:02
DBOjadaz87, you are the second person to have this issue that I am aware of... Im really sad to say that the last guy did not get it fixed either...11:02
ompaulscifi, so your not doing it from where you should, I would imagine11:02
VR_hah, "the edgy eft"11:02
VR_what a name11:02
teletubbie!science11:02
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, teletubbie11:02
teletubbie!scientific11:03
ubotuteletubbie: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:03
teletubbie!math11:03
ubotuteletubbie: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:03
jadaz87rukuartic it was working before i restarted my computer11:03
erUSULScreaminIke: if it's messed up you should fire up a bug report in malone look up here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReportingBugs11:03
jadaz87!tell teletubbie about msg the bot11:03
ScreaminIkewhere can i find a working installation of lilypond? the one in the repositories is messed up.11:03
jadacyrusDoes ubuntu have the best driver support at this poiint out of all other distributions?11:03
DBOjadaz87, have you by chance set a password on your root account?11:03
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DBOjadacyrus, hard to say, it has good hardware support though11:03
jadaz87DBO no even if i did it should have come up with the poassword entry11:03
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DBOjadaz87, I know, Im trying to think of ways to rectify the situation11:04
DBOjadaz87, as it stands you effectively do not have root access11:04
rukuarticDBO perhaps...11:04
rukuarticjadaz87: sudo -i?11:04
erUSUL!tell ScreaminIke about repeat11:04
rukuarticjadaz87: gksudo?11:04
ompaulscifi, type pwd and tell me the result thanks11:04
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jadaz87rukuartic nope to both11:05
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ScreaminIkesorry, erUSUL11:05
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Rawplayerre11:07
DBOjadaz87, can you view the sudoers file?11:07
jadaz87DBO where is it11:08
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DBO/etc/sudoers11:08
DBOI dont think you will be able to...11:08
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jadaz87DBO nope11:08
DBOjadaz87, have you a live boot CD?11:08
jadaz87DBO nope11:08
DBOjadaz87, get one11:09
DBOyou need it11:09
Mathmanhaha, man, I love penny arcade today11:09
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mrazsterguys...anyone of you installed quake-forge/quake II  ..??11:09
jadaz87DBO i cannot get on the internet without wireless11:09
Mathmanmrazster: long time ago, on debian I'm thinking.  why?11:10
jadaz87DBO i whould have to ndiswrapper but you have to get online with that lol11:10
DBObit of a catch2211:11
mrazsterwell....I tried yestrday...just for the sake of it...but when compiling or whatever...I got an error at the end about an XML parser or something....11:11
DBOso erm... color me stupid... but how are you online right now?11:11
jadaz87DBO wireless11:11
rukuarticDBO, he's saying he wouldn't be able to access net with live CD11:11
DBOooooh11:11
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mrazstershouldn't it be done as usual with ./configure, make, make install11:11
DBOyou dont need wireless with the liveboot11:11
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rukuarticHe would for instructions11:12
Mathmanmrazster: I'd be more partial to apt-get foo.  but yeah, that would work too.11:12
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jadaz87DBO what whoudl that do? i cannot access the harddrive from live cd11:12
DBOjadaz87, you can mount the hard drive with the live CD11:12
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prgrmrcan i install automatix on amd64?11:12
DBONO11:12
DBONever use automatix11:12
DBOit breaks systems11:12
prgrmr:(11:12
cgeprgrmr, DBO is correct.11:12
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DBOand harsh11:13
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jadaz87!automatrix11:13
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ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jadaz8711:13
Xardas_busyhi11:13
homedawgi cant remove gdm while trying to remaster dapper flight 6, any ideas?11:13
DBO!automatix11:13
ubotuwell, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.11:13
Mathmanmrazster: if it's telling you that when you're trying to build it from source, then yeah, install xml whatever the heck it's looking for11:13
Xardas_busydoes here anyone use lilypond?11:13
say2skydapper beta available now11:13
mrazsteryeah it in the repos...tried installing with synaptic...but when everything done and i type quale2 in terminal...it says something about a missing file in baseq211:13
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McGuyverOfBeeryep populating to mirrors :)11:13
cgesay2sky, !?11:13
eugmanAnyone here use gnome-mud?11:13
homedawgthis is what i get when i try to remove it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1256311:13
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tanathanyone know a fast/easy way to go through each file in a directory and replace a string of characters if it occurs in the filename?11:14
cgetanath, mmv maybe?11:14
rukuartictanath: bash scripting :P11:14
DBOjadaz87, you would need to verify that the admin group is in /etc/sudoers and that your user is in the proper group... jadaz87, failing that changing your userID to 0 in /etc/passwd would effectively give you root access and give you a chance to fix things11:14
blindxhow do you do ascii text in ubuntu?11:14
mrazsteroh well...no biggie....just thought that mabye anyone tried it recently...and had an idea11:14
squiddle/var/run/screen/S-squiddle/5417.desktop: No such file or directory11:14
jadaz87homedawg!!!! :-)11:14
rukuarticblindx: ?11:14
squiddlewhat is wrong?11:14
Warbotanath: Maybe if you know a little perl or Python, if not then possibly bash11:15
blindx for example11:15
blindxalt codes on a windows box11:15
jadaz87DBO let me see if a restart will do anything11:15
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jadaz87DBO that works sometimes11:15
rukuarticblindx: press alt, type numbers?11:15
tanathwhat would i stick in a script?11:15
DBOjadaz87, okie dokie11:15
blindxit doesn't work?11:15
rukuarticblindx: I jsut get a box...  I suppose?11:15
Warboblindx: It depends on the program. OOo should be the easiest, then you could copy/pate it wherever it's needed11:15
humboltI have trouble with my WLAN11:15
cgeDBO, if a password is never showing up, is that the problem? I seem to recall that a password entry does show up even if you don't have permission.11:15
blindxOOo ??11:15
Warboblindx: OpenOffice.org11:16
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blindxohh.11:16
DBOcge, I know... which is why I had the "and failing that" aspect to give him root permissions11:16
hussamIs any of the daily dapper cds working? ( not stability but installer-wise)11:16
humboltI get disconnected without getting disconnected!11:16
cgeDBO, ah, I see.11:16
homedawgwhile trying to remaster dapper flight 6 i've come across not being able to remove gdm. this is what i get when i try to remove it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1256311:16
humboltMy downloads and skype connections are dropped but NetworkManager does not show anything happen.11:16
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prgrmrcan i install easy ubuntu on amd64?11:17
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DBOcge, hacking a system with local access is just too easy =P  /etc/passwd really should be encrypted in some form...11:17
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cgeDBO, won't help. The whole partition would have to be encrypted11:17
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beerockxswhenever i run gedit with sudo, i get lots of messages similar to this: "Audio device open for 8.192Khz, mono, 8bit failed11:18
beerockxsTrying 8Khz, 8bit mono.11:18
beerockxsSound device inadequate for Esound. Fatal.11:18
beerockxs" in the console11:18
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beerockxsnon-sudo, I don't get them.11:18
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beerockxswhat might cause that?11:18
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DBOcge, meh, Im not concerned with people comprimising the box locally, that is going to happen.  I am concerned with people compromising the box locally in a way that is hard to detect and doesnt effect the system performance11:18
bunglehow do i preview mp3s in nautilus?11:18
bungledoesnt seem to work :-(11:18
DBObungle, do mp3's work for you at all?11:19
bungleyes D811:19
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erUSULDBO: that's why /etc/shadow exist in the first place11:19
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ciubihello people11:19
Warbohello11:19
jadaz87 DBO it works now :-\11:19
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DBOerUSUL, that only protects from gaining the hash, it doesnt prevent live boots from writing to it11:19
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DBOjadaz87, cool11:19
ciubii have a problem11:19
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jadaz87DBO here is the contents of the sudoes11:19
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ciubii have a problem11:19
jadaz87!ops11:19
ciubii have a problem11:19
ciubii have a problem11:19
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee11:19
McGuyverOfBeergood god...11:20
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ciubihow whant's to help me11:20
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FlannelKinggood afternoon lilo.11:20
dekelaciubi: Whats the problem?11:20
ompauljadaz87, that one is known no worries11:20
bungleDBO, yes can play then and i have set preview11:20
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DBObungle, you got me11:20
Warbociubi: Please don't post multiple times, just put your question (if it is long use pastebin)11:20
bungleok ta anyway11:20
jadaz87ompaul what do you mean?11:20
cgeDBO, oh, I see. If it were encrypted, I suppose that the attacker wouldn't be able to keep the same passwords for everyone. But even then, the encryption would have to be such that the user had to enter some passphrase while booting, or an attacker could gain root and then decrypt it.11:20
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DBOompaul, does a reboot always fix it?11:20
ompaullilo just had a visit: c-68-62-247-89.hsd1.tn.comcast.net11:20
naliothjadaz87: we have a new function for Ubugtu11:21
ompaulDBO, ?11:21
DBOcge, you are correct, such a scheme would be... very complex11:21
ciubik11:21
ciubisrry11:21
ciubiNow11:21
naliothompaul: that is not necessary, lilo and HedgeMage are in the !ops trigger11:21
DBOompaul, the sudo not giving a password prompt11:21
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bunglehow do i preview mp3s in nautilus?11:21
jadaz87nalioth oh ok that does it do?11:21
Warbociubi: That better be a joke11:21
ompaultrue11:21
erUSULDBO: only root can write /etc/passwd11:21
SteveAwhat's the best instant messaging app to use with dapper?11:21
CNAPanybody know where i can find the recycle bin?11:21
CNAPstevea, GAIM11:21
kiko0123can ubuntu write in NTFS or only read ?11:21
DBOerUSUL, give me local access to your box and a live boot and I will show you otherwise =P11:22
naliothjadaz87: didn't you see what Ubugtu did?11:22
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WarboCNAP: home/.Trash11:22
FlannelKingkiko0123: just read11:22
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CNAPwarbo, gracias11:22
homedawgwhile trying to remaster dapper flight 6 i've come across not being able to remove gdm. this is what i get when i try to remove it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1256311:22
ltR20hey i got a problem11:22
kiko0123ohk...11:22
FlannelKingkiko0123: all linux can just read, not just ubuntu.11:22
ltR20everytime i download the nvidia drivers11:22
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ciubiwhen i whant to enter in a partition he don't let me see because he say i dont have permision to open11:22
mohadibdoes breezy stable not have ncftp in apt?11:22
kiko0123FlannelKing, there is no way to write ?11:22
ltR20it says that it cant startx because it's the wrong version11:22
WarboCNAP: If you deleted something on another drive (like an iPod) then it will be iPod/.Trash-username11:22
SteveAyou can put one of hte NTFS filesystems into a write mode11:22
ciubiwhat can i do11:22
ompaulDBO, don't know to be honest11:22
ltR20and i have to re-configure my xonf11:22
FlannelKingkiko0123: not one that's stable.  It's because we're having to reverse engineer the ntfs filesystem.11:22
jadaz87DBO # /etc/sudoers11:22
jadaz87#11:22
jadaz87# This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root.11:22
jadaz87#11:22
jadaz87# See the man page for details on how to write a sudoers file.11:22
jadaz87#11:22
shinudo i have to do anything else to install the fonts or just copy them into /var/lib/defoma/gs.d/dirs/fonts?11:22
jadaz87# Host alias specification11:22
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jadaz87# User alias specification11:22
DBO!paste11:22
ubotuPlease don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL11:22
jadaz87# Cmnd alias specification11:22
teletubbiewhy can't totrem play mp3 files?>11:22
erUSULDBO: i'm afraid i do not know what you mean by "live boot"11:22
jadaz87# Defaults11:22
bungle!nautilus11:22
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bungle11:22
jadaz87Defaults!lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn11:22
teletubbietotem*11:22
jadaz87# User privilege specification11:22
kiko0123ok thanx FlannelKing ?11:22
jadaz87rootALL=(ALL) ALL11:22
SteveAit doesn't work if you don't have a cleanly unmounted ntfs volume11:23
jadaz87# Members of the admin group may gain root privileges11:23
kiko0123*!11:23
FlannelKingsigh.  this is going to take a while.11:23
jadaz87%adminALL=(ALL) ALL11:23
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ltR20!op11:23
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ltR2011:23
erUSULjadaz87: please do not paste here11:23
jadaz87erUSUL it was an accident look http://pastebin.com/67015911:23
SteveAand also, when it does work, you can only do certain things, like work with preexisting files11:23
DBOerUSUL, a operating system that runs off of the CD is called a Live Boot11:23
cgehomedawg, replace /etc/init.d/gdm with a null shell script?11:23
jadaz87erUSUL that is the contents from what i pasted into the pastebin lmao11:23
ciubi!0x11:23
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ciubi11:23
homedawgwhat should i place in there?11:23
ciubi10x11:23
DBOerUSUL, it will effectively bypass all security on the local hard drives11:23
ompaulDBO, okay I read back through what was there11:24
SteveAthanks CNAP11:24
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dekelaAnyone knows of a better archive manager for gnome rather then the default one? Something like winrar11:24
jadaz87DBO http://pastebin.com/67015911:24
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dracflamlochi11:24
DBOompaul, yeah, appearantly a reboot fixed him, I want to know if thats been put as a bug11:24
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DBOjadaz87, its properly configured, but you are working now... go figure11:24
erUSULDBO: you mean physical access? in that scenario there is nothing you can do to prevent access even encription will not work.11:24
dracflamloccan someone please tell me how to setup dual monitors on an ati x800?11:24
rukuartic!dualmonitors11:24
Mathmandekela: whats wrong with fileroller?  anyway, who says it has to be for gnome?  ark is pretty good.11:24
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rukuartic11:24
rukuarticdracflamloc: tried the wiki?11:25
Warbodekela: File-roller is just a front-end to command line stuff. The only decent alternative I know of is KDE's Ark which works in GNOME11:25
cgeerUSUL, encryption with a user-supplied passphrase would work.11:25
dracflamlocyes11:25
DBOerUSUL, encryption would provide an additional layer of protection11:25
homedawgcge: what should i change that script to?11:25
dracflamloctheres only one for nvidia. the one for radeon doesnt work11:25
dekelaWarbo: Mathman thanks11:25
jadaz87erUSUL sorry about the paste the Ctrl+V accidentally pasted the content that i had put in the pastebin link http://pastebin.com/67015911:25
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cgehomedawg, Something like just the line "#!/bin/sh".11:25
erUSULcge: with phisical access i can wipe out all your data. end of the history11:25
homedawgok11:26
simonpcaplop11:26
DBOerUSUL, thats ok, you still didnt compromise anything, just wiped it... give me 10 minutes with my backups11:26
cgeerUSUL, yes, but that's what backups are for. You wouldn't be able to comprimise data integrity.11:26
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ompaulDBO, 1) sudo sets a ticket that ticket has a time attached to it (15 minutes if I recall) 2) that system can be revoked , and 3) someone found a bug where a modem a modem was online, the machine powered off and the machine powered on again (rather fast) the modem would dial out during that 15, it is said not to happen with dapper but that is another story11:26
homedawgwow, your the greatest, worked like a charm cge. :)11:26
rukuarticout of interest, what would be the effect of a new user (brand new, so no privelages) typing "rm -rf /] 11:26
beerockxswhenever i run gedit with sudo, i get lots of messages similar to this: "Audio device open for 8.192Khz, mono, 8bit failed"11:26
ltR20how do i find out what kernal version  i have11:26
beerockxsnon-sudo, I don't get them.11:26
beerockxswhat might cause that?11:26
patrick522how do i set the document root for apache11:26
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erUSULjadaz87: what is the problem?11:26
FlannelKingpatrick522: it's in your virtual hosts11:27
DBOompaul, ah, I see now11:27
WarboerUSUL and DBO: Have you seen the recent Slashdot article on IBM's new system where EVERYTHING is encrypted, right up to the monitor output11:27
rukuarticpatrick522: /etc/apache.conf maybe?11:27
cgehomedawg, not sure why it is trying to reload gdm while it is being purged.11:27
homedawgyeah, its really wierd11:27
DBOWarbo, sounds like TCPM...11:27
DBOWarbo, erUSUL, and me, we are offtopic sadly, to offtopic channel we must go =)11:27
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WarboDBO: I just wanted to add a few facts to chuck around, I'm not going to get imvolved :)11:28
ltR20how do i find out what kernal version  i have11:28
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DBOWarbo, ok, I wasnt complaining, we all get on tangents here11:28
DBOltR20, "uname -r"11:29
WarboItR20: "uname -r"11:29
DBOjinx11:29
Warbolol11:29
ltR20will it work with http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8756.html11:29
ltR20i have 2.6.12-1011:29
DBOltR20, those drives work just fine =)11:29
DBOdrivers*11:29
DBOI use them myself11:30
erUSUL!tell ltR20 about nvidia11:30
jadaz87hello guys i have a question about vmware11:30
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FliesLikeALapwhenever I install a 686  kernel on a computer I have here, the keyboard and mouse stop working, 386 kernels are fine.  any insights ?11:30
FliesLikeALapon dapper or 5.1011:30
jadaz87everytime i reboot the computer i have to reconfigure it i guess the vmmon kernel module is not being loaded on boot up11:30
jadaz87and another question is everytime i try to shutdown or restart when it gets to shutdown power management11:31
jadaz87it says that there is no BIOS and then hangs after trying to shutdown Firestarter11:31
DBOalright, im out for a bit11:31
DBOlaters11:31
Warbojadaz87: I had the free player (just because I could) but I found it too disruptive with my boot up (especially networking) so I removed it11:31
bunglehow do i preview mp3s in nautilus?11:31
nubuntuEvery ?%&# time I reboot ubuntu I have to stop in the boot manager and write "Linux video=ofonly". Or else I will get no screen picture. How can I append the video=... thing to avoid this?11:32
Warbobungle: Apps>System Tools>Configuration Editor, Nautilus, Preferences11:32
rukuarticnubuntu: you mean, when selecting an image to boot from?11:32
erUSULnubuntu: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst11:32
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Warbonubuntu: Add it to /boot/grub/menu.lst11:32
bungledone that Warbo doesnt work :-(11:32
rukuarticWhat they said11:33
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Warbobungle: Oh, do you have MP3 support in Gstreamer?11:33
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bungleyes can play them no problems Warbo11:33
erUSUL!tell bungle about mp311:33
Mathmannubuntu: try ubuntu-ppc or whatever11:33
Aeudianwhere is the folder that containts the gnome login screens located11:33
jadaz87everytime i try to shutdown or restart when it gets to shutdown power management it says that there is no BIOS and then hangs after trying to shutdown Firestarter11:33
Warbobungle: Are you sure it is Gstreamer? Do you have Totem-Gstreamer installed not totem-xine and MP3s work in it?11:33
nubuntuok11:34
WarboAeudian: I think /usr/share/gdm11:34
bungleyes Warbo11:34
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cih997Is anyone know how can I burn CDs on Ubuntu? Is it possible?11:34
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scifiompaul: i had to go for a few minutes and i cant see ur last response about my firefox update11:35
Warbobungle: Hmmmm... Well I found it happened automatically when I clicked on an MP3 from Newgrounds, I had to wait for it to stop before I disabled it completely11:35
jadaz87cih997 you can use k3b11:35
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scifio no he left11:35
beerockxscih997, you can also use nautilus, if you just want to burn some data11:35
Warbocih997: There are a few ways. Just dump your CDR in the drive and see what happens :)11:35
cih997:P11:36
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bunglenot having any luck with it Warbo not to worry11:36
AeudianWarbo: thanks11:36
ZarephathYeah..not if you want a multi-session disk though...nautlius won't do that11:36
cih997i'm using Live CD...11:36
Warbobungle: Well, if I had my way then sound previews not working would be a major feature enchancement for Nautilus :)11:36
beerockxsthen just use nautilus to burn data to a cd11:36
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bunglesame here Warbo11:37
Warbocih997: Is your LiveCD in a different drive to your CD Writer?11:37
cih997no ;)11:37
scifidoes x-chat clear ur chat sessions from a few minutes ago because i cant seem to scroll up to conversations i had earlier ^^11:37
Warbocih997: Well you can't eject the CD while it is running, other than that you would need a lot of RAM11:37
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FlannelKingscifi: it has a buffer size, and you can change the buffer sze11:37
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scififlannelking: so once its gone i cant read it?11:38
FliesLikeALapwhenever I install a 686  kernel on a computer I have here, the keyboard and mouse stop working, 386 kernels are fine.  This happens on both 5.10 and dapper, any insights ?11:38
cih997Warbo: I'm going to install Ubuntu on my disk so i'll try nautilus11:39
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trainstrokerCan i change my permissions on an NTFS partition. its windows11:39
FliesLikeALap!tell trainstroker about ntfs11:39
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Warbocih997: I use Nautilus for all of my CD writing. Even CD images (.iso) have a "Write To Disc" option when you right click them11:39
FlannelKingscifi: unless you've logged it.  right.11:40
Warbotrainstroker: As in permission of the disk, or permission of the files? NTFS only has read/write AFAIK11:40
Karissonanyone know where i can find a list of ubuntu drivers for PCMCIA wireless cards?11:40
cih997Warbo: that's great :)11:40
trainstrokerwarbo: i dunno. when i try to access the partiotion it says that i dont have permission to view the files11:41
FlannelKingFliesLikeALap: file a bug, or check bugzilla, etc.  Might want to try it with dapper, if it doesn't fix it, you'll definately want to file that as a bug.11:41
FlannelKingerm, we use launchpad, eh?11:41
jadaz87hello i was wondering where the default backgrounds are stored?11:41
FliesLikeALapFlannelKing read my message, I had the same problem with dapper ;)_11:41
rukuartic!tell karisson about ndiswrapper11:41
FlannelKingFliesLikeALap: did you file a bug report?11:41
Karissonrukuartic: already tried it11:42
FliesLikeALapFlannelKing not yet, I figured I'd ask here first rather than file a bug for something which may be fixable11:42
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jadaz87!tell Karisson about wireless11:42
rukuarticKarisson: If you go, there's a link to a list of supported hardware and where to find drivers11:42
Warbotrainstroker: That would be permission for the drive. I thought you meant of the files, as I don't think that you can have owners, groups read permissions (turned off) or execute permissions for files on NTFS partitions11:42
Aeudianwhats the best usnet binary downloader with nzb support?11:42
Karissonokay, thanks11:42
scififlannelking:  where do i increase buffer size?11:42
FliesLikeALapWarbo that is correct (not being able to have permissions on NTFS)11:42
FlannelKingFliesLikeALap: eh, if it' just changing the kernel, then I cant see why anything else would need to be changed so you can use keyboard/mouse.  file a bug.11:42
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FliesLikeALapfair enough, will do11:43
FliesLikeALapwhats the URL to the launchpad site?11:43
trainstrokercan i maybe view that partion with sudo?11:43
jadaz87hello i was wondering where the default backgrounds are stored?11:43
FlannelKing!bugs11:43
FlannelKing!bugreport11:43
ubotuFlannelKing: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:43
Warbotrainstroker: You could, but sorting out your automatic mount options (/etc/fstab) would be a more permanent solution11:43
jadaz87i was also wondering what the command to update all packages was?11:43
FlannelKingscifi: I don't know, I haven't used xchat... in a good while.  look for a settings/options menu option11:44
FliesLikeALapjadaz87  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:44
beerockxsjadaz87, /usr/share/backgrounds for the default ones11:44
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Warbojadaz87: sudo apt-get upgrade, if you use dist-upgrade it will mess around with installing and removing packages to make the latest ones work (like if Firefox suddenly needed Epiphany to be removed, although that's a stupid example)11:44
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beerockxsjadaz87, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade11:44
ltR20everytime i install the nvidia drivers i cant boot in X11:45
Zarephathjadaz87: Some are /usr/share/wallpapers11:45
ltR20how can i find the logfile to show you guys11:45
beerockxs!nvidia11:45
ubotufrom memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736811:45
ltR20i always have to reconfigure the x11:45
beerockxsltR20, are you following that howto?11:45
Zarephathgnome is different..it stores it in a hidden folder under ~/11:45
ltR20nvidia won't help, yes i did.11:45
jadaz87what is the difference between upgrade and update?11:45
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dooglusupdate downloads the list of packages, upgrade downloads and installs the packages themselves11:46
Warbojadaz87: Update fetches new lists for apt to look through, upgrade gets new packages to install11:46
Zarephathjadaz87: Update updates the entries from sources.list in /etc/apt/sources.list11:46
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ZarephathThe other actually upgrades your software11:46
newbie33where I can ask newbish questions?11:46
ltR20beerrocks how do i show you the logfile11:46
Warbonewbie33: Here11:46
erUSULjadaz87: update is for updating the list of packages in the repos. upgrade installs the lastest versions of packages you have instaled by looking at the list update fetched11:46
beerockxsltR20, I'm not that knowledgable about nvidia cards, I use an ATI card.11:47
erUSULnewbie33: here11:47
Zarephathnewbie33: Read tuxmagazine.com for some good information as well11:47
ZarephathI run nvidia...whats up?11:47
ltR20Hey11:47
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newbie33mount /dev/hda0 /mnt/fat11:47
ltR20Zar, I instaled the nvidia drivers and then i cant start X11:47
newbie33whats wrong?11:47
ltR20i get an error then i have to reconfigure it11:47
Warbonewbie33: Well, for one there is no 0 partition :)11:48
newbie33I want to mount fat32 system disk11:48
newbie33ok then it could be hda611:48
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erUSULnewbie33: /dev/hda0 does not exist it is 1,2,3....11:48
newbie33the error is the same11:48
trainstrokerwarbo: how do i go about changin autoboot options11:48
ZarephathltR20: Hmmm...did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg?11:48
Warbonewbie33: use "sudo" in front, then put hda1 or hda2 or something11:48
ricoduedyay :D11:48
newbie33mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/fat11:48
newbie33not work too11:48
ltR20Yes and i'm back in11:48
ltR20but the nvidia drivers wont install !!!11:48
Warbotrainstroker: Do you mean the mount ones (/etc/fstab)?11:48
ZarephathltR20: I may have the command wrong..but it is close11:48
erUSULnewbie33: for ex. mount -t auto /dev/hda2 /mnt/fat11:49
trainstrokeri guess yeah11:49
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ltR20Yeah I re-configed it11:49
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trainstrokerbrb will look for your reply11:49
erUSULnewbie33: /mnt/fat must exist beforehand11:49
ltR20how come it's not working11:49
jadaz87does anyone know where gnome write the config for the defaul background?11:49
ZarephathYeah but the directory has to be created first....11:49
PuMpErNiCkElltR20: Are you installing them from the nvidia.com script or from the repository?11:49
newbie33the /mnt/ dir is empty11:49
newbie33its fresh install11:49
ZarephathltR20: What card is it?11:49
ltR20PuMp from the repos11:49
rukuarticnewbie33: Are you sure you have the right drive?11:49
ltR20my drivers were working yesturday11:50
ltR20i installed it using the easyubuntu thing11:50
newbie33yes im sure11:50
erUSULnewbie33: well just do sudo mkdir /mnt/fat or mount in /mnt11:50
ltR20then i rebooted and everything went wrong11:50
newbie33mm ok :)11:50
erUSULnewbie33: like this mount -t auto /dev/hda6 /mnt/11:50
ltR20i'm using a GEFORCE TI 4800SE11:50
ZarephathltR20: did you post the error to pastebin?11:50
PuMpErNiCkElltR20: hmmm... odd, usually the repository version 'just works'11:50
ltR20how do i get the logfile?11:50
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ricoduedHow would one go about determining the installed GTK+ version?11:50
Zarephathltr20: Just a sec11:51
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erUSUL!info libgtk11:51
PuMpErNiCkElltR20: dmesg11:51
ricoduedThanks11:51
Warbotrainstroker: Look through the file /etc/fstab ("sudo nano /etc/fstab") and also in the manual for mount ("man mount") to get all of the options. I think adding the option "uid=yourusername" to the options column will sort it. Then instead of rebooting just use "sudo umount /where/it/is/mounted" then "sudo mount -a" to mount what is in fstab11:51
PuMpErNiCkElltR20: you can use dmesg | tail to shorten the output, if necessary11:51
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ricoduedJust kidding, !info libgtk didn't work. Oh well. GUI isn't everything :)11:51
erUSULltR20: look here /var/log/Xorg.0.log (last lines)11:52
rukuarticricodued: I stoped using that except for firefox and thunderbird11:52
ZarephathltR20: Look in /var/log11:52
ricoduedGtk+ 2.x? or !info.. ?11:52
ltR20http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1256711:52
ScreaminIkewhere can i find a working installation of lilypond? the one in the repositories is messed up.11:52
rukuarticScreaminIke: Can you get the source? Compile it yourself11:52
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ScreaminIkewill it show up in synaptic?11:53
rukuarticNope11:53
ScreaminIkehrm11:53
ScreaminIkehow do i build a debian package from it?11:53
PuMpErNiCkElltR20: Okay, you'll have to look at the logfiles for something other than that... those lines are the result of a different bug (ubuntu has trouble recognizing the numlock key, so it generates error messages if numlock is on)11:53
ScreaminIke(from source, imean)11:53
ZarephathltR20: Looks like you have a problem with the keyboard for some reason...are you using a language other than enlglish?11:53
ltR20no11:54
WarboScreaminIke:  Checkinstall once you have the source (probobly from their website)11:54
rukuarticScreaminIke: No clue... I just ./configure && make && checkinstall11:54
ZarephathWell did you try the command to see what you get?11:54
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ZarephathIt is in the pastebin11:54
Zarephath'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.11:55
scifii have a folder called "ffsettings" that has appeared on my desktop during updating firefox, what shall i do with it? dont really want i there :P11:55
ScreaminIkethanx, all11:55
Warboscifi: Is it from an Ubuntu package???!!!11:55
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deflux-What is the right way to remotely log into a xdmcp-enabled host from ubuntu?11:55
FlannelKingdeflux-: you can do it from the login screen11:56
scifiwarbo: i dont know, it appeared while doing the backu firefox settings commands i ran as shown on wiki11:57
scifibackup*11:57
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ZarephathltR20: You want a copy of my xorg.conf to look at?11:57
GTXIs there anyone here which is kind enough to see why my iptables configuration ( http://www.proupload.com/uploads/1145521713.txt ) isn't allowing me to send or receive emails to the internet or localy :\11:57
ltR20K11:57
Warboscifi: Well if it is only a backup then you can safely move it to a suitable folder (I would put it in /home/chris/Files/System/Storage, but I'm far too organised :))11:57
nflamelanybody knows if there's any problem with coreutils in dapper drake11:58
nflamel?11:58
FlannelKingnflamel: #ubuntu+1 will get a better response11:58
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ltR20PUT IT IN Pastebi11:58
nflamelFlannelKing, ok, thankyou11:58
scifiok done11:59
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