[12:00] <lamego> trainstroker, for mp3 check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:00] <tonyyarusso> King_Of_No_Pants: There are various ones, in /etc/init.d/ and /etc/sc#.d/
[12:00] <rah> is the amd64 architecture usable on em64t?
[12:00] <mzinz> mwe: sorry to ask so many questions :)
[12:00] <looksaus> most if not anything can be found there
[12:00] <lamego> for ntfs you dont need any special package
[12:00] <King_Of_No_Pants> thanks
[12:00] <mzinz> mwe: how do i make it double click instead of single click to open an icon
[12:00] <mwe> mzinz: that's ok. you don't learn if you don't ask
[12:00] <jammyflynn99> ubantu seems very simular to windows
[12:00] <rah> ie, if I download the amd64 ubuntu install disk, will it install on an em64t machine?
[12:00] <trainstroker> what is sudo
[12:00] <Blissex> rah: yes.
[12:00] <rah> (in 64-bit style)
[12:00] <craig442> can anyone help me? i am trying to install usbvision driver and it's getting the better of me!
[12:00] <rah> Blissex: thanks
[12:01] <Comrade_Sergei> someone know alot on WINE they wont help me in #winehq
[12:01] <jammyflynn99> sudo+ root
[12:01] <jammyflynn99> =
[12:01] <trainstroker> ok
[12:01] <lamego> trainer, is the command to run programs with administrator privilege
[12:01] <asdf25> trainstroker: you can search for packages in ubuntu... to find names of NTFS-related packages you could run "sudo apt-cache search NTFS"
[12:01] <looksaus> trainstroker, sudo is like putting on system administrator hat
[12:01] <mwe> mzinz: I haved used that in ages. alt-f2 and run kcontrol it should be there somewhere I think. sudo apt-get install kcontrol if you don't have it
[12:01] <mzinz> mwe: thanks
[12:01] <looksaus> trainstroker, read a good basic introduction, it will tell you that
[12:01] <trainstroker> asdf 25 i really have no idea how to work linux so what u sugested made no sense
[12:02] <mzinz> General question: What is the difference between i386 and i686 architecture?
[12:02] <jammyflynn99> does ctr+alt+f1 just make terminal full screen
[12:02] <asdf25> trainstroker: heheh ok. it was just a command to run, not particularly good advice
[12:02] <lamego> trainstroker, go for the tutorial :)
[12:02] <trainstroker> ooo
[12:02] <mwe> mzinz: i386 is generic
[12:02] <trainstroker> what tut
[12:02] <asdf25> trainstroker: i would guess there's some sort of ubuntu guide that explains a lot of these things though
[12:03] <mwe> mzinz: covers >= intel 386
[12:03] <jammyflynn99> ctr + alt + backspace realy helped when someone told me to do it
[12:03] <lamego> trainstroker, google.com: ubuntu guide
[12:03] <looksaus> trainstroker, google
[12:03] <looksaus> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/index.html
[12:03] <mwe> !ubuntuguide
[12:03] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[12:03] <looksaus> after +- 5 seconds
[12:04] <looksaus> trainstroker, good luck!
[12:04] <jammyflynn99> ubantu unofficial guide is very good
[12:04] <jammyflynn99> ubantuguide.org
[12:05] <mwe> jammyflynn99: see the note from ubotu
[12:05] <ltR20> is it possible to install ubuntu from a DVD
[12:05] <ltR20> i only have DVDS
[12:05] <lamego> jammyflynn99, could you shutup please ? you make a lot of dumb sentences wich don't help anyone
[12:05] <mwe> jammyflynn99: it breaks things and doesn't explain what it does
[12:05] <trainstroker> so i downloaded a .deb for alien what now
[12:05] <AlexMiller> Hey. i just got a package of cd's, loaded my live x86 copy and here I am. I an a linux newbie, and i am wondering if it is possible to resize an NTFS partition and stick in a Linux partition
[12:05] <tonyyarusso> jammyflynn99: There's better, newer stuff.
[12:05] <vinboy> hi i'm thinking to upgrade to dapper, but will  I still be able to use my breeezy apps under dapper?
[12:06] <tonyyarusso> http://help.ubuntu.com/ to start.
[12:06] <lamego> trainer, do not proceed with using alien when there are ubuntu packages available, read the  help.ubuntu.com to start with
[12:06] <asdf25> trainstroker: you shouldn't have to download a .deb... the way to install alien would be "sudo apt-get install alien"
[12:06] <tonyyarusso> vinboy: Same stuff should be around.
[12:06] <asdf25> trainstroker: you should probably read a guide about the basics of ubuntu packages
[12:06] <tonyyarusso> (And then much more, of course!)
[12:07] <looksaus> trainstroker, spare yourself the confusion, read some basic introduction
[12:07] <asdf25> also you shouldn't have to install alien, probably ever
[12:07] <jammyflynn99> there must be thousands and thousands of stuff to install aptitude list is massive
[12:07] <looksaus> like the one I pointed you at
[12:07] <trainstroker> alright so i installed alien. but how do i run it ? (sorry for the noobiness
[12:07] <trainstroker> ill go to the guide in a sen
[12:07] <asdf25> i seriously doubt that you should actually be running alien
[12:07] <trainstroker> sec*
[12:08] <looksaus> trainstroker, noobiness is nothing, but why ask if you don't want to listen?
[12:08] <lamego> trainer, read the introduction to ubuntu as most people is suggesting
[12:08] <mzinz> How do I disable text wrap on icons?
[12:08] <me2win> i use alien a good amount, it helps in alot of situations
[12:08] <lamego> not on this case when there are ubuntu packages available and he doesn't know how to use them
[12:08] <asdf25> well it's highly unlikely that it's the very first thing a new user would want to do after installing ubuntu
[12:08] <mwe> me2win: as you long as you don't use it headlessly ...
[12:09] <mwe> me2win: I've used it too
[12:09] <me2win> oh yeah. if there are packages available in repos or debian pkgs, then no reason to use. Only when finding a deb is a TON of work or you just cant find one
[12:09] <looksaus> trainstroker, I realise I'm only an unknown irc user in the distance, but I'm really trying to help you!
[12:09] <tombs> hi all
[12:09] <duda> hola
[12:10] <lamego> !!es
[12:10] <ubotu> lamego: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:10] <asdf25> hehehe, yeah, you really should read a guide, i think you'll be able to understand how to install packages pretty quickly if you do that
[12:10] <craig442> can anyone here help me install the usbvision driver?
[12:10] <vinboy> thanks tonyyarusso
[12:11] <looksaus> craig442, maybe I can help somewhat if you have some more info for me...
[12:12] <craig442> ok, i am trying to install usbvision driver so that i can use tvtime with my pctv usb2 device
[12:12] <looksaus> you are trying to install what kind of device? and where do you want to get that usbvision driver from?
[12:12] <craig442> the problme is, i have the driver, but i am trying to follow the instructions and it am getting nowhere!
[12:13] <looksaus> where do you get the driver from?
[12:13] <looksaus> instructions online somewhere?
[12:13] <craig442> usbvision.sourceforge.net
[12:13] <beasty> nn all
[12:13] <craig442> http://usbvision.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=documentation
[12:13] <craig442> those are the instructions i am following
[12:14] <lamego> did you managed to compile the kernel module ?
[12:14] <mwe> craig442: generally you need at least build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r) to compile a kernel module
[12:14] <craig442> sorry, i am new, i have no idea how to do most of it!
[12:14] <looksaus> craig442, are you sure it is not in the kernel yet?
[12:14] <looksaus> or a module that is around somewhere?
[12:14] <craig442> how do i do that?
[12:14] <lamego> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:14] <looksaus> it probably should be by now...
[12:15] <alelinux> hi
[12:15] <looksaus> craig442, you should check that first absolutely
[12:15] <MrPockets> so i got this file. its a .RAR at 84 megs, supposed to have music files in it.
[12:15] <MrPockets> but even though its 81 megs, the files empty
[12:15] <MrPockets> what says you?
[12:15] <craig442> it just asked me to insert the cdrom
[12:15] <craig442> is that right?
[12:15] <looksaus> craig442, I'll be honest I have no experience with usb video stuff drivers, but I do have a lot of experience with installing exotic drivers
[12:15] <mwe> MrPockets: broken file
[12:16] <MrPockets> poop
[12:16] <MrPockets> solution?
[12:16] <looksaus> craig442, wait before you start tinkering with kernels
[12:16] <teleyinex> hi
[12:16] <looksaus> you really need to check
[12:16] <mwe> MrPockets: get a file that's not broken
[12:16] <teleyinex> im wondering why when i want to print a pdf file I cant select even pages or odd pages
[12:16] <teleyinex> is this a bug?
[12:16] <Warbo> MrPockets: RAR archives should be accessible even if they are partially broken. You do have unrar or similar installed don't you?
[12:16] <teleyinex> a limitation?
[12:16] <teleyinex> what?
[12:16] <looksaus> it is probably in the ubuntu kernel somewhere already
[12:16] <teleyinex> im in breezy
[12:16] <craig442> ok
[12:16] <MrPockets> i believe so
[12:16] <teleyinex> I have to use kpdf to do that
[12:16] <craig442> is there anyway i can check?
[12:17] <looksaus> checking myself right now
[12:17] <lamego> teleyinex, I guess that depends on the pdf program you are using, you should also be able to do it with acrobat (I guess)
[12:17] <craig442> ok
[12:17] <teleyinex> yes
[12:17] <looksaus> craig442, just to make sure, please connect your device and
[12:17] <looksaus> open a terminal
[12:17] <craig442> uh huh
[12:17] <looksaus> type
[12:17] <teleyinex> but i want to use evince, or gpdf
[12:17] <looksaus> lsusb
[12:17] <looksaus> you know how to open a terminal?
[12:17] <teleyinex> but with both of them, the same fucking problem
[12:17] <craig442> yeah, it see's it
[12:18] <craig442> Bus 004 Device 002: ID 2304:0208 Pinnacle Systems, Inc. [hex] 
[12:18] <amphi> teleyinex: FWIW, you can also view pdf in gv, dunno if that'll do what you want
[12:18] <looksaus> ok, that says nothing yet about it being supported, but it's a first step
[12:18] <teleyinex> amphi, I could try it
[12:19] <teleyinex> but its incredible that these apps dont have that feature
[12:19] <teleyinex> incredible
[12:19] <craig442> when i try dmesg, i can't see any reference to it
[12:19] <Warbo> teleyinex: Do you want to add it? Or you could ask the developers
[12:19] <lamego> teleyinex, well, I have never used them, it is not that incredible for me :)
[12:19] <ompaul> Language please, leave it at the door
[12:20] <looksaus> craig442, don't worry about that... it's a usb device...
[12:20] <MrPockets> i kinda wanna play CS
[12:20] <teleyinex> this things make sense in the flame: kde vs gnome
[12:20] <craig442> when i went to #tvtime, someone there told me to install this driver, but they couldn't help me other than that
[12:20] <nalioth> teleyinex: please respect us with your language choices
[12:20] <trainstroker> what is multiverse and unvierse?
[12:20] <facugaich> !repos
[12:20] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:20] <_jason> ubotu: tell trainstroker about componentes
[12:20] <_jason> ubotu: tell trainstroker about components
[12:21] <teleyinex> nalioth, what?
[12:21] <teleyinex> i dont understand you
[12:21] <nalioth> teleyinex: profanity is not welcome here
[12:21] <craig442> is there anything else you want me to try?
[12:22] <ompaul> teleyinex, bad language is not welcome, thanks
[12:22] <james_> good night guys
[12:22] <lamego> teleyinex, you can fill a bug report for it on launchpad: https://launchpad.net/
[12:22] <teleyinex> ok
[12:22] <teleyinex> but i have only expressed myself
[12:22] <teleyinex> ;)
[12:22] <looksaus> craig442, researching....
[12:23] <craig442> ok, cool, thankyou for helping me with this, it is appreciated!
[12:25] <looksaus> craig442, I assume you are using Ubuntu v2005.10 ("breezy"), the latest stable release?
[12:25] <craig442> yes
[12:26] <anderbubble> (In dapper) I've been having real trouble getting my Xserver configured with an ati radeon 9600xt. I've used the 'ati' driver, the 'radeon' driver, and the 'fglrx' driver. Should this work properly, and likely just an xorg.conf misconfiguration, or is there a real problem?
[12:26] <looksaus> your device will probably have _much_ better support in the next release
[12:26] <looksaus> I've looked up here and there a bit
[12:27] <Warbo> anderbubble: Dapper should be discussed in #ubuntu+1 but I use vesa for a basic ATI setup
[12:27] <looksaus> and it seems to have been integrated into a more standard driver framework, calles v4l (video for linux)
[12:27] <craig442> ok
[12:27] <looksaus> but this support is not available in breezy
[12:27] <craig442> oh right
[12:27] <anderbubble> I take it #ubuntu+1 is the development channel?
[12:27] <craig442> so i have to wait till the next release
[12:27] <craig442> ?
[12:27] <looksaus> that depends on how dirty you want to get your hands
[12:28] <Warbo> anderbubble: Not FOR development, but for use by Dapper users, whether they are developers or not (I'm not,)
[12:28] <mwe> anderbubble: it's probably a problem with xorg.conf. read !ati the instructions should work for dapper as well
[12:28] <Du> anybody has experience in getting encfs to worg in dapper?
[12:28] <Blissex> anderbubble: 9600XT should work well with both 'radeon' and 'fglrx' (the latter with some more problems).
[12:28] <looksaus> I'm running the pre-release since december or something, and in the beginning there were some minor annoyances, but these have been fixed
[12:28] <craig442> i have been on loads of forums that have people saying they are having problems with this device, but with sound, not picture
[12:28] <yggdrasil> hey guys got kind aof a weird situation, no internet connection at my house a computer with ubuntu with and no cd player how can i get it to acces the ubuntu cd so i can install some stuff from apt ?
[12:29] <craig442> ok, so the new release is ok?
[12:29] <looksaus> craig442, that problem could still be present
[12:29] <looksaus> but at least you should have something to look at
[12:29] <Warbo> yggdrasil: Is it feasable to make a network, wired or wireless?
[12:29] <yggdrasil> warbo wired
[12:29] <looksaus> that is what I compiled from reading various online information sources
[12:29] <anderbubble> thanks
[12:30] <craig442> ok
[12:30] <yggdrasil> warbo and ive got a windows box or a linux box
[12:30] <moitio> is there a way to install dapper from hoary without a CD or internet connection, just a dapper CD image?
[12:30] <MrRio> i need to free up some space, ive just removed everything graphical, xserver, gtk etc.
[12:30] <craig442> so, you think i should get the next version?
[12:30] <looksaus> craig442, so as I said, it all depends on how much energy and risk you want to spend on it
[12:30] <MrRio> and im still using a gigabyte
[12:30] <mwe> yggdrasil: I did a network install on my ibm x40 without a cd drive
[12:30] <MrRio> Any temp files sticking around I can clean up?
[12:30] <looksaus> is this your primary workstation, do you need it for work? then the golden rule is not to run anything but stable...
[12:30] <yggdrasil> mwe ive allready got it installed. i just need to install some stuff thats on the cd
[12:30] <mwe> moitio: it's not supported, upgrading over two releases
[12:31] <craig442> is there anyway you can help me instsall this driver? just so i can let it go if it then doesn't work?
[12:31] <B0FH> !w32codecs
[12:31] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[12:31] <looksaus> craig442, others may label me very conservative for thi
[12:31] <mwe> yggdrasil: hmm
[12:31] <yggdrasil> i jsut want to have basicly a repository localy on my lan
[12:31] <craig442> sorry, it's just that i have been trying for hours now and i keep getting the problem
[12:31] <flavius> I have a pppoe network connection. how can i configure it?
[12:32] <craig442> the same problem even
[12:32] <nickrud> flavius, pppoeconfig
[12:32] <beniamino> i just destroyed my system by dist-upgrading to dapper. i get a segfault when it tries to load the kernel.  using an old kernel, i get no networking.  any ideas how i can recover?
[12:32] <mwe> !pppoe
[12:32] <ubotu> pppoe is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[12:32] <lflashl> ok how can i dl mplayer with apt-get (SHOULD I USE APT-GET?)
[12:33] <looksaus> craig442, if you say you're a relative newbie, I would choose between waiting for the next version or upgrading
[12:33] <looksaus> I think that's the most realistic way to have a go at it
[12:33] <nickrud> flavius, did you catch that link that ubuto has above about pppoe?
[12:33] <moitio> mwe: say I downloaded a warty image and put it in a fat32 partition, how would I use that to upgrade?
[12:33] <AlexMiller> join channel #fedex and chat about the shipping company that is sweeping the world. i think.....
[12:33] <B_166-ER-X> i have a problem with K3b, although seeming obvious (joliet extensions problem ?) i dont see what to do... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12521   dont tell me i have to rename all those files..  i cannot beleive its this complicated..
[12:33] <flavius> yes, thanks
[12:34] <craig442> there is just one bit of the instructions i am having trouble with
[12:34] <looksaus> doing it any other way will force you through a lot of trouble, and even if you get things working, that kind of trouble risks of repeating itself with later system upgrades
[12:34] <AlexMiller> join channel #fedex and chat about the shipping company that is sweeping the world. i think.....
[12:34] <looksaus> _if_ you don't follow ordinary ubuntu packages
[12:35] <anderbubble> On a more general note: does anyone know the right way to set up MergedFB?
[12:35] <nasky> hi all
[12:35] <looksaus> craig442, of course, you're welcome to ask more specific questions, and I'll try to handle them as well as I can
[12:35] <anderbubble> (using an ati radeon)
[12:35] <looksaus> but if you are willing to experiment, I would suggest you to uprade to dapper
[12:35] <craig442> ok, fair enough, i just don't know what it means when it says : For both you must have installed the kernel sources. The files
[12:35] <craig442>     /lib/modules/kernel_version/build/.config    and
[12:35] <craig442>     /lib/modules/kernel_version/build/linux/version.h
[12:35] <craig442> have to reflect the running kernel.
[12:35] <B_166-ER-X> please, i scrapped 3 dvdr trying to figure out my problem, i even buyed a new dvdr drive :|
[12:36] <beniamino> craig442: after my experience today, i would suggest dapper is not ready to be tried yet
[12:36] <LadyNikon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12522  Can someone help me with this please? i did apt-get install eterm
[12:36] <LadyNikon> I am also not able to update any packages?
[12:36] <beniamino> unlesss you know exactly what you're doing
[12:36] <nasky> i've just installed XFCE4 and i don't know how, the desktop disapeared. so now i can't choose any wallpaper and the right click doesn't work anymore. what should i do ?
[12:36] <looksaus> craig442, do you know what I say with the following:
[12:36] <nasky> i've found xfce4-panel but there is not fxce4-desktop ...
[12:36] <looksaus> get the kernel source packages
[12:36] <looksaus> ?
[12:36] <craig442> no
[12:37] <looksaus> then we're a looong way from home with this
[12:37] <Stormx2> Damnit, such an annoying bug in ubuntu
[12:37] <mwe> LadyNikon: apt-get update. if that doesn't fix it, pastebin.com your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:37] <craig442> ok, fair enough
[12:37] <looksaus> I'm sorry, I don't have time for > 1 H
[12:37] <nickrud> LadyNikon, you probably have a bad/incomplete  /etc/apt/sources.list, could you put it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:37] <nickgarvey> Stormx2: what are you talking about?
[12:37] <craig442> fair enough
[12:37] <looksaus> it's 00.40 am in the morning here and I have to work tomorrow
[12:38] <Stormx2> I don't know how I do it, but I use firefox, and I drag by accident. The little move file cursor comes up and stays there. I can't do anything, the system locks up for 30 seconds
[12:38] <craig442> thanks for your help anyway
[12:38] <looksaus> craig442, sorry for not being able to help you
[12:38] <looksaus> on this path
[12:38] <ZZzzZZ> I need help LOL i forgot My user name i recond or my password i forgot what named i used to log on to ubuntu
[12:38] <LadyNikon> ,endeavormac ot dodmt fox ot
[12:38] <nickrud> Stormx2, a bug in firefox, I see it all the time
[12:38] <craig442> not a problem, thankyou for trying
[12:38] <ZZzzZZ> can anyone help
[12:38] <looksaus> you could still try to upgrade to dapper, though, if you feel a little adventurous
[12:38] <LadyNikon> jp;d pm
[12:38] <mwe> ZZzzZZ: boot to recovery mode and fix it
[12:38] <nickgarvey> Stormx2: yeah that's not a bug, that's you dragging by accident, just click anywhere on the page for it to go away..
[12:38] <Stormx2> nickrud: Ah ok. Annoying isn't it?
[12:38] <looksaus> that should not take so many instructions...
[12:38] <nickrud> LadyNikon, you are garbled
[12:38] <Stormx2> nickgarvey: Thats the thing. it doesn't.
[12:38] <ZZzzZZ> how i do that
[12:38] <ZZzzZZ> heh
[12:39] <craig442> yeah, maybe, i think i might be a little out of my depth though!
[12:39] <ZZzzZZ> with the install cd?
[12:39] <mwe> ZZzzZZ: no
[12:39] <nickrud> Stormx2, yes, I've learned to left click. It usually cuts it short
[12:39] <craig442> i have waited this long, a while longer probably won't make much difference!
[12:39] <looksaus> craig442, sorry, not a native english speaker, not certain about what you want to say
[12:39] <looksaus> ok
[12:39] <ZZzzZZ> how then
[12:39] <mwe> ZZzzZZ: from the boot menu. press escape at the beginning of the bootup process if it doesnt show by default
[12:39] <Stormx2> nickrud, nickgarvey, that *sometimes* works for me. Usually I just have to wait for it to go away
[12:39] <beniamino> is there any way to force the installer to install on a non-clean partition?
[12:39] <beniamino> if not, i am completely screwed
[12:40] <benji> is there a site that details whats new in dapper drake?
[12:40] <asdf25> it can install on partitions that aren't empty
[12:40] <looksaus> good luck, and remember: when I tried to help you, I was trying to help someone to learn and appreciate free-as-in-speech software
[12:40] <craig442> i don't think i am ready to upgrade to dapper
[12:40] <mwe> ZZzzZZ: then choose recovery mode
[12:40] <nickrud> nickgarvey, it's not reading my mind. That's a but :)
[12:40] <scifi> would u guys recommend using easyubuntu to do a "one-sweep" install of multimedia codecs?
[12:40] <looksaus> craig442, bye and good luck!
[12:40] <craig442> not good enough to experiment like that
[12:40] <nickrud> *bug, darn it
[12:40] <craig442> thanks fo ryour help
[12:40] <craig442> cheers
[12:40] <mwe> scifi: I hear it's ok
[12:40] <nickrud> scifi, there's smart people creating that script
[12:40] <beniamino> asdf25: how? it says 'this installer doesn't allow you to install over an existing GNU-Linux system overwring system files'
[12:40] <slavik> scifi: easy ubuntu is made for that
[12:41] <scifi> so yes then? :)
[12:41] <slavik> scifi: yes
[12:41] <mwe> !automatix
[12:41] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[12:41] <nickrud> scifi, if you're gonna use a script, don't do what slavik did :)
[12:41] <asdf25> beniamino: ah. well that's different, i installed it over files that didn't conflict with anything that would be installed, i just a single directory in the root directory
[12:41] <LadyNikon> mwe, nickrud http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12523
[12:41] <slavik> nickrud: :(
[12:41] <scifi> o its a script, hard to install then?
[12:42] <slavik> scifi: just use easyubuntu
[12:42] <gnomefreak> scifi: you dont install scripts you run them
[12:42] <asdf25> beniamino: i don't know how you'd even get a usable system like that, if you already have files in the places it's dealing with
[12:42] <flavius> easyubuntu doesn't create problems with the system?
[12:42] <slavik> no
[12:42] <slavik> it isn't supposed to
[12:42] <mwe> LadyNikon: comment line 1. uncomment 6 and 7, removing the us. part from the url
[12:42] <gnomefreak> flavius: safest bet is always to do it without scripts
[12:42] <benji> is there a site that details whats new in dapper drake?
[12:42] <slavik> !dapper
[12:42] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[12:42] <asdf25> doesn't easyubuntu work really well actually? or is it only for dapper?
[12:42] <gnomefreak> benji: yes i will grab the wiki for you
[12:43] <slavik> read that page benji
[12:43] <scifi> gnomefreak: thats what i meant :P
[12:43] <mwe> LadyNikon: then sudo apt-get update
[12:43] <slavik> asdf25: easyubuntu is for breezy, too
[12:43] <jorge_> #hinchas
[12:43] <LadyNikon> mwe: i just updated.
[12:43] <slavik> anyone want to feel sorry for me?
[12:43] <LadyNikon> mwe it doesnt fix anything
[12:43] <beniamino> anyone have _any_ advice for a system that won't boot after dist-upgrade to dapper?
[12:43] <mwe> LadyNikon: but did you edit it like I told you to?
[12:43] <mwe> LadyNikon: comment line 2. uncomment 6 and 7, removing the us. part from the url
[12:43] <lflashl> wht mplayer should i get 386 or 586 i have a AMD 2200+
[12:44] <LadyNikon> i didnt see that message
[12:44] <carthik> beniamino, join #ubuntu+1 please
[12:44] <gnomefreak> benji: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta
[12:44] <carthik> lflashl, 586
[12:44] <mwe> LadyNikon: well please do it
[12:44] <gnomefreak> lflashl: what does uname -r say
[12:44] <beniamino> carthik: ok, thanks
[12:44] <harisund> Can somebody tell me if I can start a vnc viewer in listener mode
[12:44] <lflashl> just flash with pretty side pictures
[12:45] <crouchingMonkey> i just installed conky and i need to configure something but i cant find the folder
[12:45] <benji> chears gnomefreek
[12:45] <nickrud> lflashl, mplayer-k6
[12:45] <mwe> harisund: I'm not really int vnc but isn't viewer just a client, not a server?
[12:45] <D-Mann> join #ubuntu-ru
[12:45] <carthik> crouchingMonkey, dpkg -L package-name gives you all the files the packge installed, wiht locations
[12:45] <B_166-ER-X> can anyone help with k3b ?
[12:46] <Kaya_> What about k3b?
[12:46] <mambotech> guy's trying to play an mp3 and I get this message There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[12:46] <ZZzzZZ> Nothing happen mwe
[12:46] <B_166-ER-X> i have a problem with K3b, although seeming obvious (joliet extensions problem ?) i dont see what to do... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12521
[12:46] <alasdair> where do i set the path in ubuntu more permanatly?
[12:46] <carthik> B_166-ER-X, generally it is a good idea to just ask the question the best you can :)
[12:46] <crouchingMonkey> ahh thanks carthik :)
[12:46] <mwe> ZZzzZZ: what do you mean? please explain
[12:46] <nickrud> !tell mambotech about restricted
[12:46] <simonpca> je re, ca merdoie vraiment chez moi avec xchat
[12:46] <B_166-ER-X> carthik i did 10 min ago, but didnt have an answer so..
[12:47] <PS> mambotech:  try easyubuntu - google it
[12:47] <harisund> mew: Yeah you are right. But a VNC viewer (client) can be started in a mode called "listener mode" and a server can initiate a connection by calling the listener.
[12:47] <f00li5h> harisund: away shoveling filth arround the apartment.
[12:47] <dieguito> mambotech, yep
[12:47] <ZZzzZZ> i hit escape on everything
[12:47] <ZZzzZZ> where was loading files
[12:47] <harisund> f00li5h: What?
[12:47] <mambotech> ok
[12:47] <carthik> B_166-ER-X, you should ask again, after waiting a while as you have, maybe improve it before asking :)
[12:47] <mambotech> thanks
[12:47] <simonpca> re
[12:47] <ZZzzZZ> to said ubuntu and loading files and it kept saying ok to every file
[12:47] <lflashl> should i get the updates for my ver of ubuntu?
[12:47] <harisund> mew: I didn't know, but "xvncviewer -listen" starts the VNC viewer in listener mode.
[12:47] <Killaz> lo Ubuntu freak!
[12:47] <mwe> ZZzzZZ: before that
[12:47] <Killaz> freaks*
[12:48] <harisund> f00li5h what did you try to tell me earlier? I didn't get you.
[12:48] <mwe> ZZzzZZ: just after the initial cmos output
[12:48] <B_166-ER-X> carthik well... with the ubuntu log, and the explication of my problem, i dont see how i could improve it, maybe with better syntax or something, but hey.. ;)
[12:48] <ZZzzZZ> I hit escape bunch of {"{:{"{:"{: showed up but nothing happen it restarted
[12:49] <mwe> ZZzzZZ: you have to hit it at the right time
[12:49] <B_166-ER-X> so anyone ever saw : Possibly creating an invalid Joliet extension. Aborting. , error in k3b . dang
[12:49] <ZZzzZZ> ok i'll try again
[12:49] <harisund> mwe: Thanks for your help, I managed to find out by RTFM :D
[12:49] <mwe> ZZzzZZ: just after you turn on the pc
[12:49] <carthik> B_166-ER-X, hmm, I just used to rename files to remove the accented chars and try again... char encoding probs are weird
[12:49] <mwe> ZZzzZZ: and the default text from the bios goes away
[12:49] <mzinz> How do I edit my themes in KDE?
[12:49] <mwe> harisund: heh
[12:49] <Killaz> maybe not an unbiased place to ask... bot how well does Ubuntu perform as a server compare to other distro's?
[12:50] <mwe> mzinz: kde-look.org has a guide on themes somewhere I think
[12:50] <dieguito> Killaz, google for some articles or comparisons
[12:50] <B_166-ER-X> carthik the problem is whatever i try to burn seems to have bad chars encoding or something, and it wasnt like this before, also, a lot of files i have to burn are on a read only drive, hence i cannot rename them
[12:50] <mzinz> mwe: thanks
[12:50] <Wibble-> Killaz, Ubuntu sucks - you should try something like windows 95
[12:50] <lflashl> dum shit program
[12:50] <amphi> Killaz: debian for servers IMHO
[12:51] <carthik> B_166-ER-X, try tweaking the joliet-related options in K#B (possibly under advanced options, perhaps.)
[12:51] <B_166-ER-X> tried :|
[12:51] <mwe> yeah debian stable for my servers
[12:51] <abligh> Wibble-, I thought CPM would be a better option
[12:51] <mambotech> mark@ubuntu:~$ gksudo python easyubuntu/trunk/easyubuntu.py
[12:51] <mambotech> python: can't open file ''easyubuntu/trunk/easyubuntu.py'': [Errno 2]  No such file or directory
[12:51] <mambotech> mark@ubuntu:~$
[12:51] <ZZzzZZ> witch one do i select there 2 of them
[12:52] <LadyNikon> ah mew left.
[12:52] <f00li5h> LadyNikon: away shoveling filth arround the apartment.
[12:52] <lflashl> all i want to do i play my mp3s
[12:52] <ZZzzZZ> nm
[12:52] <LadyNikon> what?
[12:52] <CNTRLX> Where is my terminals font directory?
[12:52] <harisund> f00li5h What does that mean?
[12:52] <carthik> B_166-ER-X, besides suggesting to search for existing related bugs on the kde and ubuntu bugtrackers there is little I can do. You can also ask at the forums. Though the answers take longer to arrive, they do, eventually
[12:52] <lflashl> tried to install mplayer but i need all these other files
[12:52] <Killaz> Wibble-: thnx for the tip... I'll d/l win95 somewhere, maybe I should go for windows 3.11
[12:52] <_jason> lflashl: what do you mean?  you should just be able to use apt in one command
[12:52] <amphi> LadyNikon: f00li5h has failed the turing test, that's all
[12:53] <dieguito> mambotech, why do you have the trunk of easyubuntu
[12:53] <dieguito> just grab the release
[12:53] <lflashl> so apt-get install mplayer 586?
[12:53] <_jason> lflashl: have you been linked to the wiki?
[12:53] <_jason> lflashl: yeah
[12:53] <dieguito> it's a .tar.gz that you can untar and then just ./easyubuntu.py
[12:53] <_jason> lflashl: mplayer-586
[12:53] <ZZzzZZ> Is the server name my username
[12:53] <amphi> Killaz: windows 386 was rather good
[12:53] <simonpca> a++
[12:53] <B_166-ER-X> carthik said it. its long... i buyed a new drive this evening cause I NEED to burn to dvd... anyway, i'll keep trying it seems...
[12:53] <LadyNikon> eh
[12:53] <LadyNikon> I still cant get my system to update :(
[12:53] <LadyNikon> and I know its not.
[12:53] <CNTRLX> Where is my terminals font directory?
[12:53] <gnomefreak> lflashl: sudo apt-get install mplayer-586
[12:53] <D-Mann> hi everyone!
[12:54] <nickrud> lflashl, you have an amd, right?
[12:54] <mzinz> whats the package name for the flash plugin for ubuntu?
[12:54] <Killaz> amphi: I'm too young for windows 386... ;-)
[12:54] <nekostar> !azureus
[12:54] <mambotech> dieguito:OK ..how do I launch easyubuntu ?
[12:54] <ubotu> I heard azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[12:54] <amphi> CNTRLX: /usr/share/consolefonts
[12:54] <_jason> mzinz: flashplugin-nonfree in multiverse
[12:54] <mzinz> _jason: thank you
[12:54] <dieguito> mambotech, ./easyubuntu.py
[12:54] <D-Mann> does anyone know, how to save user account and system settings under live-cd?
[12:54] <Killaz> !ubuntu
[12:54] <ubotu> I guess ubuntu is a free GNU/Linux distribution. More at http://www.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[12:54] <Apostle^> where does the gnome-bluetooth manager reside?
[12:54] <Killaz> !suse
[12:54] <ubotu> Killaz: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:54] <gnomefreak> D-Mann: install it is the only way i know of
[12:55] <D-Mann> OK
[12:55] <ZZzzZZ> mwe it stopped
[12:55] <carthik> B_166-ER-X, this may sound stupid, but try searching google for "Possibly creating an invalid Joliet extension. Aborting." k3b
[12:55] <ZZzzZZ> what do i type in there
[12:55] <gnomefreak> D-Mann: if its breezy live you cant install from it
[12:55] <sethk> D-Mann, you could fool it but it's really not worth the effort
[12:55] <LadyNikon> yay for having an smp kernel again :D
[12:55] <B_166-ER-X> carthik first thing i did ...
[12:55] <lflashl> i yes AMD 2200+
[12:55] <B_166-ER-X> seems its nota frequent problem
[12:55] <scifi> can anyone recommend a linux 3d-modelling/rendering app?
[12:55] <carthik> B_166-ER-X, you are ahead of me. Sorry mate, would have loved to be more helpful t you
[12:55] <B_166-ER-X> np
[12:56] <_jason> scifi: blender
[12:56] <B_166-ER-X> i'll keep trying
[12:56] <gnomefreak> lflashl: if uname -r outputs 586 than thats the one you install
[12:56] <CNTRLX> can i put in windows custom fonts in with my console fonts?
[12:56] <harisund> B_166-ER-X,carthik: What is the problem? Might I join your conversation?
[12:56] <ZZzzZZ> it stopped at root@folishpride:"#
[12:56] <scifi> _jason: i bought the book a couple of years ago, (windows) but cud still never get my head around that WEIRd interface
[12:56] <lflashl> i did tis
[12:56] <B_166-ER-X> harisund,  trying to understand why i cannot burn dvd with k3b, seeming to be a joliet problem or something i dont get
[12:56] <lflashl> apt-get install mplayer 586
[12:56] <amphi> CNTRLX: no idea, but I doubt it
[12:56] <mambotech> dieguito: I can't find the file location
[12:56] <Caminomaster> Hello
[12:57] <harisund>  B_166-ER-X, oh :(
[12:57] <carthik> harisund, <B_166-ER-X> i have a problem with K3b, although seeming obvious (joliet extensions problem ?) i dont see what to do... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12521
[12:57] <D-Mann> i have install disk, so it's OK
[12:57] <lflashl> then i get errors about dependencies
[12:57] <gnomefreak> lflashl: mplayer-586
[12:57] <scifi> any other 3d app recommendations other than blender?
[12:57] <lflashl> sorry i ment mplayer-586
[12:57] <amphi> scifi: povray
[12:57] <_jason> lflashl: have you enabled universe and multiverse?
[12:57] <lflashl> i though apt-get was ment to fix that
[12:57] <ZZzzZZ> Some body help me mwe tould me to do a recovery and What now
[12:57] <gnomefreak> lflashl: and your sure your on a 586 kernel?
[12:57] <lflashl> yes i hink so
[12:58] <lflashl> i dont know sorry
[12:58] <gnomefreak> lflashl: uname -r
[12:58] <gnomefreak> that will tell you
[12:58] <Wibble-> I am working on a contract which requires me to use mysql 4.1.10 - but ubuntu currently includes 4.1.12.  Is there any way I can install the previous version to ensure what I'm doing works on 4.1.10?
[12:58] <lflashl> 2.6.12-9-386
[12:58] <amphi> ZZzzZZ: your box's hostname is 'folishpride'???
[12:58] <scifi> amphi: easy to get to grips with modelling with that?
[12:58] <Caminomaster> Why can I make that some files don't appear with "invalid encoding"?
[12:58] <D-Mann> I asked this, because this feature was in Knoppix.
[12:58] <gnomefreak> lflashl: mplayer-386
[12:58] <blindx> Any utilities for removing a program's taskbar button and instead, giving it an icon in the tray?
[12:58] <ZZzzZZ> yeah
[12:58] <lflashl> still get dep errors
[12:58] <amphi> scifi: the manual is good and has a tutorial - the upside is the 'interface' is your favorite text editor ;)
[12:59] <gnomefreak> lflashl: make sure the uni and multi repos are enabled other than the backports one
[12:59] <_jason> lflashl: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[12:59] <_jason> lflashl: along with the errors you get
[12:59] <kingspawn> Caminomaster: filesystem on the disk where these files appear?
[12:59] <nickrud> blindx, things need to be written properly for use in the tray, so no
[12:59] <amphi> scifi: it's not a modeler, it's a raytracer that uses a 'scene description language' to render images
[12:59] <kingspawn> nickrud: could you elaborate on that?
 ZZzzZZ: your box's hostname is 'folishpride'??? YES!
[01:00] <B_166-ER-X> :-( unable to pread64(2) primary volume descriptor: Input/output error
[01:00] <harisund> carthik and B_166-ER-X could you figure out the problem? I am also curious to know.
[01:00] <kingspawn> ZZzzZZ: he might be commenting on the spelling of "foolish"
[01:00] <amphi> scifi: there are various modelers, kpovmodeler is perhaps the most complete - see povray.org
[01:00] <Caminomaster> Kingspawn: VArious, mainly files copied from a Win PC
[01:00] <_jason> lflashl: can you go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and put them there? that's what I meant
[01:00] <ZZzzZZ> OMG!
[01:00] <kingspawn> Caminomaster: ah, yes. mounting it with the option "utf8" might help
[01:00] <scifi> amphi: only want gui apps not command line
[01:01] <harisund> I am having a strong feeling this is the file that is causing the problem. Try not including that file along with the rest of the files. I really think the accented 'e' is what is causing the problem. I am not sure if you can include such file names on CDs and DVDs .
[01:01] <harisund>  B_166-ER-X ^^
[01:01] <nickrud> the panel/taskbar icon is simply a link to a launcher. The notification area/tray is actively updated by the app
[01:01] <lflashl> ok
 ZZzzZZ: your box's hostname is 'folishpride'???
 ZZzzZZ: your box's hostname is 'folishpride'???
 ZZzzZZ: your box's hostname is 'folishpride'???
 ZZzzZZ: your box's hostname is 'folishpride'???
 ZZzzZZ: your box's hostname is 'folishpride'???
[01:01] <ZZzzZZ> YES
[01:01] <kingspawn> ZZzzZZ: hush up
[01:01] <_jason> lflashl: uncomment lines 3 and 4 that give you breezy main
[01:01] <shredder_> Best media players. Kaffeine for most applications, Amorok streaming radio, Vlc for most videos, Beep media is a great streaming radio. Just saying this in case you are interested, Forget trying to install realplayer if you are having problem with that.
[01:02] <ZZzzZZ> Blow ME
[01:02] <gnomefreak> ZZzzZZ: please dont paste in here
[01:02] <amphi> scifi: once you get used to it, you'll find the scene description language is very powerful; also, as I said, there are various modelers that output files in povray format for rendering
[01:02] <kingspawn> nickrud: hm, i see. i dont know anything about this, so im just talking, but what about the apps for win32 doing this kind of taskbar-minimization?
[01:02] <nickrud> ZZzzZZ, personally, I was impressed by the name :)
[01:02] <amphi> ZZzzZZ: I congratulate you
[01:02] <B_166-ER-X> harisund,  i'm from Quebec (french speaking) and i'm sure i already burned  and  chars, but  i dont see whats my problem now
[01:02] <mzinz> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[01:02] <mzinz> I'm configuring SuperKaramba and I did ./configure for it... it was working fine then I got:
[01:02] <munzir> Blissex: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Standard_Time shows there are only 8 timezones in the world, no more no less. why I can't understand!
[01:02] <lflashl> done
[01:02] <tonyyarusso> !xincludes
[01:02] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[01:02] <scifi> amphi: i remember trying it...but i much prefer an all-in-one modeller/renderer
[01:03] <_jason> lflashl: now apt-get update and try again
[01:03] <harisund> B_166-ER-X oh that's interesting. The 'e' was the first thought that came to my mind since that is where you got the Joliet error.
[01:03] <mzinz> tonyyarusso: thanks
[01:03] <Blissex> munzir: thats really wrong, there are around 26.
[01:03] <amphi> scifi: what difference does it make? the modelers can spawn povray to render the thing for you
[01:03] <nickrud> kingspawn, the place it's minimized to is an app on the panel, not the panel itself. win32? no clue
[01:03] <B_166-ER-X> harisund,  i'll keep you informed if i find my problem.. ;)
[01:03] <munzir> Blissex: wikipedia is wrong? or my understanding?
[01:03] <harisund> Thanks !
[01:04] <kingspawn> nickrud: ah, i see. thanks.
[01:04] <lflashl> nope still get the dep errors
[01:04] <D-Mann> Another question. Did anyone succed to launch .NET apps under Ubuntu?
[01:04] <King-of-no-pants> anyone have any advice on making a script run at startup?
[01:04] <Christopher> Hello can some one please help me
[01:04] <Blissex> munzir: the world is not just the Americas...
[01:04] <Christopher> How do I log on as root??
[01:04] <King-of-no-pants> su
[01:04] <gnomefreak> Christopher: sudo
[01:04] <King-of-no-pants> or sudo
[01:04] <_jason> ubotu: tell Christopher about root
[01:04] <Christopher> thats
[01:04] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: stick it /etc/init.d and use update-rc.d to create the runlevel symlinks
[01:04] <harisund> B_166-ER-X when you mentioned you have burnt CDs with file names having accented characters, did you mean in Ubuntu or in Windows?
[01:04] <Christopher> *thanks
[01:04] <nickrud> lflashl, have you posted your /etc/apt/sources.list on a pastebin anywhere?
[01:05] <amphi> Christopher: you use sudo
[01:05] <gnomefreak> King-of-no-pants: su is not suggested to be used
[01:05] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: i got the init.d part, but im no so sure about the update -rc.d
[01:05] <King-of-no-pants> sorry
[01:05] <Christopher> im trying to install java and it says permission denied
[01:05] <King-of-no-pants> didn't know that
[01:05] <_jason> lflashl: pastebin the new errors along with your new sources on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[01:05] <B_166-ER-X> harisund,  probably on windows...although i dont see how i could have managed to burn cd /dvds for a year on ubuntu whitout having this problem
[01:05] <gnomefreak> Christopher: sudo apt-get install blah
[01:05] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: man update-rc.d ;)
[01:05] <Christopher> ok thanks
[01:05] <brandon_> King-of-no-pants: you can also put it in kde's Autostart directory
[01:05] <mzinz> In gnome theres a button to 'show desktop'.  is there one in KDE?
[01:05] <scifi> amphi: yes i remember i experimented with moray (modeller) and then rendered via povray.....altho it worked ok, it just didnt seem "right" one application opening another, it didnt feel like i had full control over pov-ray
[01:05] <D-Mann> what about .NET?
[01:06] <Caminomaster> kingspawn: and what can I do with files yet copied in my disc?
[01:06] <nickrud> D-Mann, that's mono in linux
[01:06] <kingspawn> Caminomaster: excuse me?
[01:06] <D-Mann> does it work well with ubuntu?
[01:06] <nickrud> D-Mann, well, as much as they've completed, anyway
[01:06] <scifi> shame cus i actually really liked moray as a modeller
[01:06] <lflashl> sweet done
[01:06] <amphi> scifi: I never used moray - I use an editor to create pov files and run it from the cmd line, it's not hard
[01:06] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: no manual entry for update
[01:06] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: update-rc.d
[01:07] <_jason> lflashl: and your sources?
[01:07] <D-Mann> thanks everyone
[01:07] <scifi> amphi: but im not as clever as u, so i have to be able to "see" the model im creating and editing :)
[01:07] <mzinz> Since I just installed KDE and used to use ubuntu I have accidently still been using my gnome-terminal from inside KDE.  Should I keep using it, or konsole? Or does it matter
[01:07] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: no manual entry for update-, no manual entry for rc.d
[01:07] <kingspawn> King-of-no-pants: "man update-rc.d"
[01:07] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: FOUND IT!
[01:07] <kingspawn> heh
[01:07] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: thanks, freaking spaces
[01:07] <amphi> scifi: but I imagine modelers allow you to customise the render command line it'll use
[01:07] <lflashl> sweet
[01:07] <gverig> is there a good and dynamic way to integrate file browser with Win network (Samba). I tried Nautilus and it kinda worked but it was a nightmare
[01:08] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: ;)
[01:08] <Placido> what happened? how did I leave this channel ?
[01:08] <kingspawn> gverig: merge all the windows computers to linux! ( ;) )
[01:08] <gnomefreak> Placido: /wc
[01:08] <scifi> amphi: maybe, im just after an easier solution :)
[01:08] <amphi> scifi: yeah, it can get hard to visualise sometimes ;)
[01:08] <scifi> I BET!
[01:08] <Placido> gnomefreak, whats /wc ?
[01:08] <gverig> kingspawn: would love to. Not an option (corporate network)
[01:08] <gnomefreak> Placido: find the tab for it
[01:09] <gnomefreak> Placido: you asked how to leave the channel
[01:09] <kingspawn> gverig: hehe, just playing around. what kind of nightmare did you encounter?
[01:09] <amphi> scifi: I haven't seen a free 3d image generator that comes close to povray's quality
[01:09] <_jason> lflashl: your 3 and 4th lines are still commented
[01:09] <gnomefreak> oh did you
[01:09] <gnomefreak> nm
[01:09] <harisund>  B_166-ER-X The only thing I can think of is to rename the file Secret Garden - White Stones - 02 - Poeme.mp3 to something smaller, and without an accented character and try again.
[01:09] <nope> i hear you can use apt on fedora
[01:09] <kingspawn> Placido: /wc means Window Close, ergo also leaving the channel
[01:09] <scifi> hmmm its true there arent many free HIGH quality renderers it seems
[01:09] <lflashl> so i should do wht
[01:09] <gnomefreak> nope: ask in fedora
[01:10] <_jason> lflashl: you need to do this: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list', then remove the # sings from lines 3 and 4, then run 'sudo apt-get update'
[01:10] <gnomefreak> signs ;)
[01:10] <gverig> kingspawn: well, 1) it was slow as hell 2) it does not provide even a temporary mount so no other program can open these files (at least TextEdit could not) and it crashed with SIGFAULT at the end (leaving some virtual FS 128M heavy)
[01:10] <B_166-ER-X> harisund,  i tried, but now... i dont have any idea 'WHY' but all i get is this error : :-( unable to pread64(2) primary volume descriptor: Input/output error
[01:11] <slavik> gverig: are you talking about windows?
[01:11] <kingspawn> gverig: hot diggity, thats not the usual behaviour. how have you got your samba set up? everything else on the network working alright?
[01:11] <amphi> scifi: a way to start with povray might be to use something like kpovmodeler, and tweak the files it outputs and gradually get a feel for how the SDL works
[01:11] <B_166-ER-X> harisund,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12527 as you can see here
[01:11] <gverig> slavik: I am talking about running Ubuntu and trying to access something via samba. I think server is running some kind of Unix too :)
[01:11] <amphi> scifi: povray is really fun IMHO
[01:11] <harisund>  B_166-ER-X that is likely because the DVD on which you are burning is spoilt. Try using a new DVD (and really sorry ahead of time if that goes corrupted too)
[01:12] <Zarephath> Hello fellow Ubuntians..
[01:12] <King-of-no-pants> ampho: I'm trying to do this, http://techreport.com/etc/folding/#Linux
[01:12] <harisund> B_166-ER-X That error you got is simply a bad media error.
[01:12] <scifi> amphi, for the life of me cant remember the name of this new 3d modeller i used a couple of months back, it wasnt free (trial), best modeller i ever used and they were still working on the renderer
[01:12] <gverig> kingspawn: Yeah, network is reasonably stable. I am not sure what you mean about samba setup
[01:12] <Caminomaster> kingspawn: You told me about utf8... but there are some files yet copied from a WinDisk
[01:12] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: I'm trying to do this, http://techreport.com/etc/folding/#Linux
[01:12] <harisund> B_166-ER-X I would suggest you burn a smaller collection with the named poeme file onto some cheap CD to ensure it works. I am pretty sure it will, since the error you got is indeed a bad media error.
[01:12] <kingspawn> Caminomaster: that you havent copied over yet? or? you're not making 100% sense.
[01:13] <B_166-ER-X> harisund,  wird, cause ubuntu stil ldetect it as a empty dvdr... nyway i'll try another one , its like my 5th one i *** today..
[01:13] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: Everything works, except for it runing at startup
[01:13] <kingspawn> gverig: well, i would think you have set up samba in some way to access windows shares
[01:13] <amphi> scifi: to my mind, a modeler should allow you to choose a rendering back end (blender does, I believe, but doesn't use povray AFAIK)
[01:13] <lflashl> working thanks alot guys,
[01:13] <gverig> kingspawn: generally that box is in a domain but the resource I was accessing is "free for all" access. So I was able to see it but when I clicked "open in TextEdit" it opened a program with location som smb://..., which it obviously did not understand
[01:13] <gverig> kingspawn: ... I just installed samba, I did not set anything up
[01:13] <harisund> It will be detected as empty even in Windows I am sure. But some of the initial sectors have been written adn so further writing becomes a problem. I would suggest you burn a cheaper CD first. And I will be back in 30 minutes or so ...
[01:14] <scifi> amphi: yeh think blender works with povray now too, but i HATE the interface, some people luv it, it just gave me migraines lol
[01:14] <gverig> kingspawn: if I use smbmount everything works great (I do that all the time). I just need a way to access other (rarely used) servers on the net
[01:14] <Caminomaster> Kingspawn: utf8 is an option of fstab, yes?
[01:14] <GoldDigger> Does anyone know the compatability of ubuntu with Macbook Pros using BootCamp?
[01:14] <scifi> amphi: its in-built renderer is very powerful anyway (radiosity, hdr etc)
[01:14] <amphi> scifi: heh, I haven't messed with blender much
[01:14] <kingspawn> Caminomaster: yes
[01:15] <kingspawn> gverig: ah, i see
[01:15] <scifi> amphi: dont bother !! lol
[01:15] <GoldDigger> and whether ubuntu uses build 2.6.16 of linux?
[01:15] <kingspawn> gverig: well, quickest way out i can see is a small script that mounts up the not-so-often used shares
[01:15] <kingspawn> gverig: but there might be better ways
[01:15] <amphi> scifi: dunno, it seems to have some nice stuff - didn't google contribute/sponsor some newish features? some fluid dynamics?
[01:15] <scifi> amphi: g-ma meant to be a gud modeller, but also no renderer afaik
[01:15] <Caminomaster> Kingspawn: what can I do when these files are yet in my ext3 disk?
[01:16] <scifi> yg-max*
[01:16] <amphi> scifi: give kpovmodeler a try, perhaps
[01:16] <gverig> kingspawn: yeah, I have a quick script that mounts *often* used shares. I cannot mount all rarely used machines - there are several hundreds of those :)
[01:16] <scifi> g-max*
[01:16] <kingspawn> Caminomaster: do you mean they arent in your ext3 disk yet? or that they are in your ext3 and still behave weird?
[01:16] <gverig> kingspawn: Anyway, not a big deal, I did not expect this solved.
[01:16] <kingspawn> gverig: hm, i see. heh, no, its a weird problem, and i havent used a windows share in ages. at least not one like the ones you are describing.
[01:16] <amphi> scifi: the povray manual has quite an amusing example of a raytracer written in povray's SDL ;)
[01:17] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: what have you done?
[01:17] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: everything in that article pertaining to linux
[01:17] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: you created rc.local?
[01:17] <gverig> kingspawn: Although it would be nice to get some kind of smbmount plugin for nautilus, something like "mount drive" in windows. current way did not work for me (can't say that it sucks, maybe it works good in different scenarios... sucked for me though ;) )
[01:17] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: no
[01:18] <Comrade_Sergei> how can i install opensource dri drivers for my ati rage card
[01:18] <scifi> amphi: thought u meant kpovmodeler was command line, just looked at the screenshots, looks like a v.nice gui modeller
[01:18] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: where did you add the line 'sudo -u joeblow sh -c "cd ~joeblow/folding; ./go"' ?
[01:18] <kingspawn> gverig: heh, yeah, i feel you. sometimes those things just go nuts on you
[01:18] <amphi> scifi: vim is the command line modeler ;)
[01:19] <francolq> hello, does anyone could build wine with AMD64 breezy?
[01:19] <amphi> scifi: povray renders a bit quicker if it doesn't display its output, FWIW ;)
[01:19] <scifi> amphi: thanks for the kpovmodeler tip, may try that one sometime, have u ever used it?
[01:19] <pip> Hello
[01:20] <scifi> amphi: FWIW?
[01:20] <amphi> scifi: nope, I haven't really used any modeler
[01:20] <pip> Hello,I need help
[01:20] <amphi> scifi: "for what it's worth"
[01:20] <amphi> pip: you've come to the right place
[01:20] <scifi> amphi: yes another thing that put me off pov-ray was the rendering times
[01:20] <pip> amphi, : ) thank you
[01:21] <francolq> anyone could install wine on AMD64?
[01:21] <pip> amphi, It is going like that ..
[01:21] <StarOcean> hi, i have the radeon xpress 200m integrated video card and gdm doesn't work with it. is there a way for me to fix that?
[01:21] <Comrade_Sergei> help me how can i install opensource dri drivers for my ati rage card
[01:21] <scifi> amphi: unfortunately im using gnome, kpovmodeler only KDE?
[01:21] <amphi> scifi: tip: don't use +r8 without good reason ;)
[01:22] <amphi> scifi: yeah, I don't know how much kde stuff it'll drag in with it, but you can run it under gnome
[01:22] <scifi> amphi: never done ne 3d modelling in linux, only windows
[01:22] <carl> hi all.  How do I make an application automatically start when I log in?
[01:22] <scifi> amphi: are render times any more quicker/efficient compared to windows?
[01:22] <Caminomaster> Kingspawn: Yes, I have some files from Cd or WinDisks and still so
[01:22] <King-of-no-pants> sorry
[01:23] <amphi> scifi: dunno, haven't used povray under windows
[01:23] <scifi> hehe
[01:23] <King-of-no-pants> system locked up, had to reboot, got an error message that said "Failed to initialize HAL"
[01:23] <amphi> scifi: I'd expect it to be a bit faster, perhaps
[01:24] <scifi> k, i better go zzzzz, nn
[01:24] <amphi> scifi: povray has a benchmark file
[01:24] <scifi> will try it sometime
[01:24] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: sorry, I've gotta run for now, I'll be back...
[01:25] <pip> amphi, Yesterday ,someone borrowed my USB disk .Today ,when I used it ,there is a biny file named rose.exe in my USB disk. Then my classmate shouted at that moment and said "The rose file is a bad virus....you are so dead..."but I didnt hear of rose virus .Then  I deleted it .I wonder if the rose is really abad virus and how to kill it.
[01:25] <dj-fu> Lucky ubuntu doesn't run .exe natively, huh?
[01:25] <Comrade_Sergei> please respond    how can i install opensource dri drivers for my ati rage card
[01:26] <amphi> pip: I have no idea about windows viruses
[01:26] <asdf25> Comrade_Sergei: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-ati
[01:26] <geren> hi
[01:26] <mzinz> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found.
[01:27] <mzinz> I get that when i try to ./configure
[01:27] <mzinz> any clue whats wrong? I'm in KDE
[01:27] <StarOcean> hi, i have the radeon xpress 200m integrated video card and gdm doesn't work with it. is there a way for me to fix that?
[01:27] <kingspawn> pip: dont you mind about .exe-viruses
[01:27] <amphi> mzinz: you need the -dev packages, it would seem
[01:27] <mzinz> amphi: solution? :)
[01:27] <pip> amphi, I do not use windows OS
[01:27] <mzinz> amphi: oh
[01:27] <Comrade_Sergei> thanks
[01:27] <amphi> mzinz: install the qt dev package[s] 
[01:27] <asdf25> Comrade_Sergei: then you'll have to change /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use "ati" as the driver
[01:27] <pip> amphi, I am using ubuntu. so it doesnt matter
[01:27] <amphi> pip: so no worries then
[01:28] <SGT_ANDERSON> show
[01:28] <amphi> pip: "you are so not dead" ;)
[01:28] <PwcrLinux> pip: it's val day hits on the day then spreads out.. nothing worry about linux, can't do with a exe files..
[01:28] <pip> amphi, Thank you . i was waiting for your words of that...
[01:28] <mzinz> How do I install themes in KDE?
[01:28] <Comrade_Sergei> asdf25 help srecifically
[01:29] <pip> PwcrLinux, Thank you very much.I love linux more and more
[01:30] <asdf25> Comrade_Sergei: alright... you already have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file... there will be some Device sections... you need to change the "Driver" setting in one of those to "ati"
[01:30] <Comrade_Sergei> how tho
[01:30] <asdf25> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:30] <amphi> pip: how long have you been using linux?
[01:30] <geren> is anyone familar with this distro: http://www.redflag-linux.com/chanpin/dt5/
[01:31] <Comrade_Sergei> did that do it?
[01:31] <amphi> geren: heard of it, .cn state distro, no?
[01:31] <geren> yea it is
[01:31] <geren> i believe
[01:31] <asdf25> that should have opened a text editor that will let you edit xorg.conf
[01:31] <asdf25> you can search for Driver
[01:32] <Comrade_Sergei> yea
[01:32] <asdf25> and if you set Driver to "ati" everywhere
[01:32] <asdf25> i think that will work
[01:32] <Comrade_Sergei> um im a noob how?
[01:32] <asdf25> assuming the "ati" driver works with your video card, and i think it does
[01:32] <DVSoftware> Comrade_Sergei,
[01:32] <DVSoftware> don't
[01:32] <mzinz> How do I install themes in KDE?
[01:33] <Comrade_Sergei> what?
[01:33] <DVSoftware> there is Driver section for keyboard, mouse, etc...
[01:33] <asdf25> is there some program that will autogen a good xorg.conf?
[01:33] <asdf25> heheh, right
[01:33] <DVSoftware> you need to change just for graphics card
[01:33] <amphi> Comrade_Sergei: you could just use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to select the driver
[01:33] <DVSoftware> look for
[01:33] <ompaul> asdf25, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:33] <asdf25> ohh right, thanks
[01:33] <DVSoftware> Driver "vga" or Driver "vesa"
[01:33] <asdf25> Comrade_Sergie: run that, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and go through the menu
[01:34] <DVSoftware> look for that
[01:34] <DVSoftware> or dpkg way is better
[01:34] <asdf25> Comrade_Sergie: there might be some stuff like monitor sync values and such... you can probably go with the defaults, or guess something and it'll work
[01:34] <DVSoftware> don't guess monitor values
[01:34] <asdf25> just be sure to choose "ati" as the driver
[01:35] <asdf25> is it dangerous to guess really low settings?
[01:35] <DVSoftware> it can be dangerous to guess anything monitor doesn't support
[01:35] <keleus> Anyone else having trouble getting flash working on dapper?
[01:35] <amphi> DVSoftware: not with modern monitors
[01:35] <Comrade_Sergei> ok i went through it
[01:35] <asdf25> yeah... well the menu has choices like 1280x1024@60hz, that should work with just about anything i think
[01:35] <Comrade_Sergei> try wine now
[01:35] <keleus> it appears the file SUPPOSED to be on macromedias server is gone...
[01:36] <keleus> so the installer dies
[01:36] <keleus> trying to get the installer from macromedia gets me a DNS error
[01:36] <asdf25> Comrade_Sergie: you need to restart X too... i think you can just Log Out in the System menu and that will do it
[01:36] <pip> amphi, Not long ,one month
[01:36] <lambrechts> Hey, whats the release date for Dapper Stable>
[01:36] <lambrechts> ?
[01:36] <amphi> pip: congratulations on your defenestration ;)
[01:37] <mzinz> whats amaroK
[01:37] <amphi> lambrechts: WIR
[01:37] <Comrade_Sergei> asdf25 so what now relogon?
[01:37] <asdf25> Comrade_Sergie: and if X won't start you'll have to run that dpkg-configure again and choose settings that somehow do work, heh... it should work though
[01:37] <PwcrLinux> lambrechts: June 1st
[01:37] <asdf25> yeah
[01:37] <harisund> B_166-ER-X are you there? Any luck?
[01:37] <keleus> can anyone else reach this file:
[01:37] <pip> amphi, what do you mean ?
[01:37] <keleus> http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[01:37] <amphi> pip: your escape from windows to a happier world
[01:37] <_jason> keleus: seems to download
[01:38] <keleus> hmmm
[01:38] <harisund> keleus: Why would you want to use that anyway?
[01:38] <keleus> im getting a host not found
[01:38] <keleus> entertainment value ;)
[01:38] <DVSoftware> not found
[01:38] <pip> amphi, Yes ,thank you al ot ,I think so .windows is a rubbish.
[01:38] <DVSoftware> and flash is crap
[01:38] <_jason> keleus: I can dcc if you want
[01:38] <PwcrLinux> pip: Yep, bulldozing the windows down lol
[01:38] <keleus> _jason: could you just give me the IP that you resolved from fpdownload.macromedia.com instead? behind a firewall
[01:39] <lflashl> how do i get gui for mplayer just did apt-get on it
[01:39] <pip> PwcrLinux, I will
[01:39] <DVSoftware> gmplayer
[01:39] <keleus> gmplayer
[01:39] <B_166-ER-X> harisund,  still not, 6 dvd ****ed,  trying with a Cd-rw now ;) its erasing... I'll keep you updated
[01:39] <amphi> lflashl: the gui is horrid IMHO
[01:40] <_jason> keleus: hmm what would be the proper way to do that?
[01:40] <harisund> B_166-ER-X Ok. Just make sure that file name is changed.
[01:40] <keleus> _jason: man nslookup
[01:40] <keleus> VERY handy tool
[01:40] <nope> anyone ever burn an .iso file in ubuntu
[01:40] <keleus> even works in windows believe it or not
[01:41] <amphi> _jason: better man host
[01:41] <keleus> _jason, i found it though. tried a different nameserver and it worked
[01:41] <Yorgos> anyone know any chan to ask sth about a psybnc?
[01:41] <Comrade_Sergei> nope it didnt work
[01:41] <_jason> keleus: see problem is I tried that and it gave me 72.246.126.70, but then i tried downloading with that and didn't work :)
[01:41] <PwcrLinux> nope: for burn on CDRW or R, uses the burn speed at 4x
[01:41] <keleus> hrm
[01:41] <pip> amphi, So perfect design of linux .Really so great ,I haven't installed any Anti-virus software any more.
[01:41] <keleus> i guess i could try fpdownload-marc.wip3.adobe.com
[01:41] <nope> PwcrLinux, why so slow
[01:42] <asdf25> nope: uh yes... i think you can do it through the GNOME right-click menu on the iso file
[01:42] <pip> amphi, False alarm : ) But what kind of virus is really bad to linux?
[01:42] <keleus> hmmm
[01:42] <keleus> The requested URL "/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz", is invalid.
[01:42] <Comrade_Sergei> asdf25 run me through that gu
[01:42] <Comrade_Sergei> i
[01:42] <keleus> seems i found some server breakage
[01:42] <Yorgos> let me ask again
[01:42] <Yorgos> anyone know any chan to ask sth about a psybnc?
[01:42] <PwcrLinux> nope: cuz of stable to run it..  any more than 4x could have "output" messed up installs..
[01:43] <keleus> got it!
[01:43] <Killaz> I'm getting this error/warning during the installation of ubuntu: Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/ide/host0/target0/lun0/part1 - Device or resource busy
[01:43] <amphi> pip: there are ELF-infectors, but mostly research ones - 'cheating the ELF' is one quite interesting paper
[01:43] <keleus> fpdownload.macromedia.com.edgekey.net/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[01:43] <asdf25> Comrade_Sergei: did X work after the dpkg-reconfigure menu thing?
[01:43] <nope> what are pros cons of redhatfedora vs ubuntu
[01:44] <Comrade_Sergei> wine u mean then no
[01:44] <Comrade_Sergei> whats that dkpg command again?
[01:44] <asdf25> hm well lots of things can go wrong trying to run wine...
[01:44] <asdf25> to see if you have DRI working though, run glxinfo
[01:44] <Comrade_Sergei> ill run through it with you help this time
[01:44] <mwe> nope: the feeling of not being a beta tester for redhat is one
[01:44] <nickrud> nope, that's a question of #ubuntu-offtopic, really
[01:44] <asdf25> and hopefully it will say "direct rendering: Yes"
[01:44] <DVSoftware> asdf25, he don't have it
[01:44] <Comrade_Sergei> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x24
[01:45] <nope> can apt work with redhat i heard it does
[01:45] <amphi> pip: also see http://vx.netlux.org/lib/?lang=EN&index=UN#vsc03
[01:45] <keleus> weird
[01:45] <keleus> now its not working
[01:45] <keleus> well i got it.
[01:45] <lflashl> is there a command for a getting mplayer skins with apt-get
[01:46] <pip> amphi, Thank you
[01:46] <asdf25> huh... i'm not sure, haven't done that in a while, maybe there's some other package you need to install or something...
[01:46] <mwe> lflashl: sudo apt-get install mplayer-skins
[01:46] <mzuverink> how do I get thunderbird to open links in firefox?
[01:46] <Comrade_Sergei> asdf25 whats the command again
[01:46] <sorush20> guys can I not run dapper packages on breezy?
[01:46] <Killaz> after this warning/error (I click on ignore). it starts creating partition for / ext3. After this I get an red screen telling me that the creation of ext3 in partition #1 failed
[01:47] <asdf25> Comrade_Sergie: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:47] <amphi> pip: in practice, there seems little or no virus problem for linux at the moment
[01:47] <nickrud> sorush20, some
[01:47] <mzuverink> Killaz: I had that error too, I fixed it by choosing to format that partition.  I bet you forgot to format it or chose not too.
[01:47] <asdf25> the main thing should just be to choose "ati" for the driver
[01:47] <sorush20> how about the amarok beta version nickrud
[01:48] <asdf25> and go with the defaults for a lot of the rest
[01:48] <pip> amphi, Good news to me : )
[01:48] <Comrade_Sergei> asdf25 can you go to #asdf25
[01:48] <nickrud> sorush20, depends on if the beta amarok will run with the kde libs in breezy. I don't use kde, so I don't know myself
[01:48] <root_> hi i m a new user on ubuntu i just got sucess in connecting net
[01:48] <Killaz> mzuverink: ok lemme see
[01:49] <kingspawn> root_: are you accessing irc from your root-account?
[01:49] <harisund> root_ And I have a bad feeling you are running as root.
[01:49] <harisund> kingspawn my thoughts exactly :D
[01:49] <root_> so can any one tell me how to get all the packages??
[01:49] <kingspawn> harisund: great minds.. :)
[01:49] <harisund> lol
[01:49] <nickrud> !tell root_ about repos
[01:49] <amphi> !tell root_ about root
[01:49] <mwe> root_: don't irc as root.
[01:50] <nickrud> root_, you just got a pm, it'll tell you how to enable access to the full range of applications
[01:50] <root_> ok i m loging wid my account
[01:50] <nickrud> root_, they're tweaking you, but it's true :)
[01:50] <kingspawn> root_: good :)
[01:54] <cyphase> imagines*
[01:54] <sorush20> when I try to install I keep getting the message that it will break I don't know what to do>.
[01:54] <mambotech> guy's I am trying to install ssh ....from a command line ...but I don't seem to be able to get root access using sudo
[01:54] <cyphase> an Ubuntu key instead of a Windows key
[01:54] <manish__> hi can any one help me to install all packages
[01:54] <cyphase> :P
[01:54] <kingspawn> mambotech: whats the error?
[01:54] <tritium> mambotech: sudo apt-get install openssh-server doesn't work?
[01:54] <paul_> after you install the macromedia flash player and you can see it in /usr/lib ... what is tyhe final step tp make mozilla beable to see java pages
[01:54] <mwe> manish__: don't
[01:54] <manish__> i  m new user
[01:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell paul_ about javadebs
[01:55] <mambotech> let me try
[01:55] <manish__> just get connected to net
[01:55] <mwe> manish__: you don't want everything. you can't even install everything as some things will conflict
[01:55] <cyphase> manish__, why do you want to install all packages?
[01:55] <lflashl> how do i install skins for mplayer?
[01:55] <mambotech> mark@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:55] <mambotech> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:55] <mambotech> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:55] <mambotech> mark@ubuntu:~$
[01:55] <mwe> lflashl: i told you
[01:55] <kingspawn> mambotech: have you got synaptic open?
[01:55] <tritium> mambotech: are you running synaptic?
[01:55] <mzuverink> Killaz: that work?
[01:55] <mwe> lflashl: sudo apt-get install mplayer-skins
[01:55] <mambotech> ah yes soory
[01:56] <manish__> bcoz i dont have any thing only base backages
[01:56] <kingspawn> mambotech: just close it and try again
[01:56] <tritium> mambotech: please close it
[01:56] <paul_> java is installed and mozilla-flashplayer but doesnt seem to work
[01:56] <_jason> !info mplayer-skins
[01:56] <pip> amphi, Hello,another question.My hard disk contains 40.0G when I bought,but why does it show 37.62G in linux Disk manager programme?
[01:56] <mambotech> :)
[01:56] <_jason> mwe: I can't find that package
[01:56] <mambotech> Thanks guys
[01:56] <mwe> manish__: trust me you don't want everything
[01:56] <kingspawn> pip: no disk ever bought hold the exact amount promised
[01:56] <crimsun> pip: 1/10th is reserved for superuser in case of emergency, i.e., silly user fills all available HD space.
[01:57] <_jason> lflashl: I just go to the mplayer site and copy them to ~/.mplayer/Skin/
[01:57] <amphi> pip: heh, because the manufacturers use decimal gigabytes, and linux is reporting in binary gigabytes (gibibytes)
[01:57] <mwe> !info mplayer-skins
[01:57] <vinboy> has anyone install ubuntu on a MiniMac yet?
[01:57] <manish__> i didnt even have pluggins for media
[01:57] <manish__> so how to install the pluggins??
[01:57] <mwe> I guess it only exists for dapper
[01:57] <_jason> mwe: appears to be new in dapper
[01:57] <pip> amphi, so does it ,okay
[01:57] <amphi> pip: it annoys me too
[01:58] <lflashl> _jason, do i need to ext them or just copy the file over
[01:58] <pip> amphi, lol
[01:58] <_jason> lflashl: extract
[01:58] <manish__> plz reply mwe
[01:58] <manish__> i dont even have K3b
[01:58] <mzuverink> How do I make thunderbird open links in firefox?
[01:58] <manish__> so plz any one help me out..
[01:58] <mwe> manish__: sudo apt-get install k3b
[01:58] <mambotech> kingprawns:how would I use sudo to tail a log file
[01:59] <harisund> Is there any way I can change gnome's wm from metacity to sawfish? Or is metacity itself better?
[01:59] <spikeb> is there any way to remove dependencies once the package that depended on said packages is removed?
[01:59] <mwe> harisund: I think it's possible. I'm not sure how or if it's recommended
[02:00] <c172> spikeb: probably not... there could be lots of packages that aren't needed by other packages but that you want to have
[02:00] <amphi> spikeb: deborphan
[02:00] <manish__> hellooo...... any one there??
[02:00] <amphi> manish__: no
[02:00] <mwe> debfoster
[02:00] <nickrud> spikeb, debfoster
[02:00] <spikeb> ok
[02:00] <c172> or maybe ubuntu can do that :)
[02:00] <pip> crimsun, OKay,thank you
[02:00] <c172> if only it could connect to the internet
[02:01] <mwe> it can
[02:01] <mwe> ;)
[02:01] <starscalling> !azureus
[02:01] <ubotu> I guess azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[02:02] <c172> yeah, it can do lots of things if you write half the code for them
[02:02] <nickrud> c172, nah, only configs.
[02:02] <c172> it can also claim that a network card is working, and yet fail to use it for unknown reasons
[02:03] <amphi> c172: routing problem?
[02:03] <c172> nothing's changed... it just stopped working
[02:03] <c172> I have the connection plugged into a linksys router now with the same settings, and that's how I got here
[02:03] <lflashl> _jason, wht the ext place i made a dir called skin and i cant seem to change over to my new skin
[02:04] <c172> I think I need to make the interface RUNNING.. whatever that means
[02:04] <amphi> c172: is it up?
[02:05] <c172> I have UP, BROADCAST, and MULTICAST
[02:05] <c172> and all the IP stuff is right
[02:05] <mwe> c172: default gateway set?
[02:06] <c172> it was, but now I have to run it through another router
[02:06] <Tennessee> If I munge up my boot process so that I can't boot into X, is there any way during the boot process that I can boot to a terminal instead?
[02:06] <_jason> lflashl: sorry I don't understand your question
[02:06] <c172> if there was something wrong with the network card would there be any way to find out from linux?
[02:06] <asdf25> Tennessee: choose "recovery mode" in the GRUB boot menu
[02:07] <_jason> lflashl: it should be Skin with a capital S
[02:07] <gymsmoke> evening, all...
[02:07] <gymsmoke> I'm going back through my server setup for a co-lo box to run mail, dns, web... I'm looking for suggestions here
[02:08] <mwe> c172: network cards can broken so that they just don't transmit packages and are still recognized. that would be impossible to detect other than it doesn't function
[02:08] <gymsmoke> I'll have the base install along with openssh-server installed as a minimum... (why openssh isn't installed as part of a server I'll never know)
[02:09] <Tennessee> I've had problems before with recovery mode not working correctly. It still boots a modified X, and some things require that X services be entirely stopped. At the time I was able to run 'init 3', but this no longer works.
[02:09] <mwe> gymsmoke: did we agree on this yesterday, or was that someone else?
[02:09] <gymsmoke> mwe: nah - it was me.... I got everything done and installed a POS panel whch totally hosed me...
[02:09] <manish__> can u tell me how to install packages from synaptic?/
[02:10] <nickrud> Tennessee, recovery mode should drop you to a terminal as root (and init 2-5 are identical in ubuntu, no redhatisms here)
[02:10] <_jason> ubotu: tell manish__ about synaptic
[02:10] <mwe> oh
[02:10] <gymsmoke> manish__: uh - select the package, install it
[02:10] <mwe> heh
[02:10] <manish__> but i didnt have the package i m searching
[02:10] <gymsmoke> mwe: yep, learned a valuable lesson...
[02:10] <_jason> manish__: what package?
[02:10] <gymsmoke> manish__: change your apt sources
[02:10] <manish__> K3b
[02:10] <_jason> !info k3b
[02:11] <ubotu> k3b: (A sophisticated KDE cd burning application), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.12.2-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 3658 kB, Installed size: 7880 kB
[02:11] <_jason> manish__: have you enabled the main repository?
[02:11] <mwe> manish__: if it's not available your sources.list is probably broken
[02:11] <gymsmoke> mwe: if you don't know something in Linux, LEARN ABOUT IT -- instead of getting a "front end" to do it for you
[02:11] <manish__> no i dont know
[02:11] <manish__> how to enable
[02:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell manish__ about repos
[02:11] <c172> haha, I like how everything in linux is "sophisticated" and "commercial-quality"
[02:11] <nickrud> or don't use pos front ends
[02:11] <gymsmoke> _jason: beat me
[02:11] <_jason> gymsmoke: you can get the next one :)
[02:12] <Tennessee> nickrud: Will gdm stop drop you out of X entirely?
[02:12] <nickrud> Tennessee, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop does, yes
[02:12] <manish__> plz reply..
[02:12] <mwe> gymsmoke: well that's how I do it, trying to learn how things work
[02:12] <Tennessee> I wanted to get to the point where I could tinker with my X configuration, and then restart X with a new config without rebooting.
[02:12] <gymsmoke> mwe: yep - never again...
[02:12] <_jason> manish__: check your private messages from ubotu
[02:13] <Tennessee> nickrud: I was still used to the 'init 3' idiom, and it all caught me by surprise. It seems like one of the weirdest things about ubuntu,  but I guess I can just learn a new way.
[02:13] <gymsmoke> mwe: I'm installing the base system and openssh-server (again), then I'm getting the network engineer at our NOC to give me a crash course in setting up bind9
[02:13] <amphi> Tennessee: don't use a ?dm
[02:13] <mwe> gymsmoke: yeah
[02:13] <nickrud> Tennessee, the assumption is, if you install a ?dm, you probably actually want to use it :)
[02:13] <manish__> can any one tell me plz
[02:14] <_jason> manish__: what irc client are you using?
[02:14] <mwe> Tennessee: runlevels 2,3,4,5 are identical by default I think
[02:14] <bwlang> gymsmoke: i think tinydns is easier to manage...
[02:14] <amphi> c172: what do you mean?
[02:14] <nickrud> mwe, Tennessee identical except for the number of virtual consoles
[02:14] <Tennessee> nickrud: I do 90% of the time, but I have the need to tinker without it sometimes. Such as when I break it really badly and need to fix it.
[02:14] <manish__> mwe plz reply
[02:15] <mwe> manish__: what?
[02:15] <amphi> Tennessee: keep a backup of a working config, perhaps
[02:15] <gymsmoke> mwe: for mail, i'm still looking at postfix, although our other server runs qmail/vpop and I have no complaints there
[02:15] <mwe> manish__: go to pastebin.com and paste /etc/apt/sources.list and paste the url here
[02:15] <Tennessee> gtg
[02:15] <Tennessee> thankx all
[02:16] <mwe> gymsmoke: qmail rocks though the author is an arrogant bastard
[02:16] <mwe> gymsmoke: personally I'd prefer it for security reasons though
[02:17] <gymsmoke> mwe: that's true... but i read through a bunch of benchmarks, and for a small server like this one (less than 1,000 email transactions), it smokes qmail in terms of performance.
[02:17] <mwe> gymsmoke: maybe
[02:17] <gymsmoke> mwe: that's one thing that i have no complaints about with qmail/vpop - the security is quite good
[02:17] <c172> amphi: they complain about buzzwords, but as soon as something has 5 features it's sophisticated, even if it takes 5 hours to configure
[02:17] <gymsmoke> mwe: but I've also read that postfix+sasl+tls+ssl measures up quite well, too
[02:18] <amphi> c172: sorry, who do?
[02:18] <c172> read any forum with lots of open-source developers
[02:18] <mwe> gymsmoke: I think postfix can be plenty secure as well, yes
[02:18] <c172> I try not to, but I still remember them
[02:19] <lflashl> how do i make mplayer open just the once.
[02:19] <amphi> c172: 5 features? that's not sophisticated, that's bloated ;)
[02:19] <nickrud> rflol
[02:19] <mwe> lflashl: explain
[02:19] <gymsmoke> bwlang: i've had my fill of "magic pills" on Linux... when I first started using Unix (around 78), everything was command line and the permutated index... I just don't see any reason to change from that, based on my last 6 months experience of getting re-acquainted with the environment
[02:19] <amphi> lflashl: only type it once
[02:19] <Xenguy> .oO(some cheese with the whine?)
[02:19] <c172> well it doesn't really matter if no one can figure them out
[02:19] <marcin`> hi guys
[02:19] <gymsmoke> mwe:yeah  i've found some good reading on securing postfix...
[02:20] <marcin`> could someone tell me if ubuntu supports *.otf fonts?
[02:20] <amphi> gymsmoke: gnu screen is _the_ window manager ;)
[02:20] <lflashl> um when i playing a song and i click on another song it opens a new mplayer i just want to run them all in the one
[02:20] <nickrud> marcin`, yes
[02:20] <marcin`> and if it does then how should I install them?
[02:20] <gymsmoke> amphi: that's a new one for me
[02:20] <nickrud> marcin`, drop the font in ~/.fonts or /usr/share/fonts
[02:20] <marcin`> nickrud: doesn't work unfortunately :(
[02:21] <amphi> gymsmoke: gnu screen? it'll change your life ;) it's a terminal multiplexor
[02:21] <nickrud> marcin`, can you point me at the font?
[02:21] <mwe> gymsmoke: when you get experienced, administrating from the cli can be very efficient
[02:21] <marcin`> nickrud: well it's commercial from linotype - helvetica neue
[02:21] <gymsmoke> amphi: anything like using function keys to change terminals?
[02:21] <lflashl> does anyone understand me
[02:21] <marcin`> nickrud: I cannot publish this font
[02:21] <Xenguy> gymsmoke: if you like console/command-line, screen is the only way to fly
[02:21] <nickrud> marcels, oh. :)
[02:21] <kingspawn> gymsmoke: true terminals, or terminals in gui?
[02:22] <dj-fu> irssi + screen = the winner
[02:22] <mwe> gymsmoke: and if you already have experience with unix ...
[02:22] <nickrud> marcin`, no problem on that front
[02:22] <mambotech> guy's can streamtuner stream tv
[02:22] <kingspawn> dj-fu: right on
[02:22] <gymsmoke> mwe: yeah - i started out with System 7 ... (too far back for alot of folks)
[02:22] <marcin`> nickrud: hmm I'll try to restart fontconfig or maybe just system...
[02:22] <hawk_wolf> Eh yo, anybody know if I can install yahoo messenger for debian on ubuntu?
[02:23] <amphi> gymsmoke: see http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/
[02:23] <conn> hi, in gstreamer-properties I set video output to "XWindows (No Xv)", but when I play a movie in fullscreen with totem it's slow and pixellated. Does anyone know how I can make it look better? mplayer -vo x11 at fullscreen works perfectly but not totem...
[02:23] <nickrud> marcin`, try sudo fc-cache
[02:23] <no0tic> why mysql-server shipped with ubuntu has a debian-sys-maint user?
[02:23] <gymsmoke> amphi: i'm reading through that now
[02:23] <Seq> does anybody happen to be using mail-notification AND the laptop temperature monitor applet? I'm curious how to have both working at the same time as they overwrite the same gconf file
[02:23] <kingspawn> conn: rule 1) never use totem :)
[02:23] <dj-fu> hawk_wolf: debian and Ubuntu are not the same - you are probably looking for the package "gaim" - apt-get install aim
[02:23] <mwe> gymsmoke: I can't say I used *nix back then but a lot of what you learned back then must still be useful
[02:24] <amphi> dj-fu: yeah, handy for moving irssi between console and X ;)
[02:24] <kingspawn> conn: totem seems to be just some crazy hack, completely useless
[02:24] <marcin`> nickrud: it worked big thanks :)
[02:24] <dj-fu> amphi: definitely, couple it with a psybnc and you're sussed ;)
[02:24] <nickrud> marcin`, yw
[02:24] <hawk_wolf> dj-fu Yeah but I wanted yahoo, not aol.
[02:24] <no0tic> what mysql-server shipped with ubuntu has a debian-sys-maint user?
[02:24] <spikeb> hawk_wolf, gaim handles multiple protocols
[02:24] <gymsmoke> mwe: yeah - i was away from it for about 10 years, since the contracts i was on wanted M$ environments, but I was surprised to see how little had changed...
[02:25] <dj-fu> hawk_wolf: gaim isn't just AOL, it's msn, jabber, gadugadu, gtalk, loads of protocols.
[02:25] <dj-fu> including Yahoo, too - afaik
[02:25] <no0tic> what's the role of the debian-sys-mantain user in mysql-server shipped with ubuntu?
[02:25] <amphi> gymsmoke: heh
[02:25] <conn> kingspawn: I tried totem-xine, same prob
[02:25] <gymsmoke> mwe: I remember X11 when it was in it's infancy, and Motif widgets was _the_ way to program for X
[02:25] <amphi> gymsmoke: there's always plan 9...
[02:25] <hawk_wolf> oh yeah, forgot, its been awhile since I've had a linux box online
[02:25] <dj-fu> lol, motif
[02:25] <spikeb> heh gymsmoke to thi sday i still like CDE
[02:25] <hawk_wolf> thanks guys, I'm now installing gaim.
[02:25] <jonathan_> does anyone in here use sata raid ?
[02:26] <kingspawn> conn: use vlc
[02:26] <nickrud> no0tic, it's purpose is to have a user that the debian maintainer can use for manipulating your system.
[02:26] <mwe> gymsmoke: I read in one of my dad's books "The UNIX Handbook" or something like that. most if it seemed valid with no or few modifications
[02:26] <mwe> gymsmoke: heh
[02:26] <gymsmoke> amphi: I liked the look of plan9... I also liked the concept of the Panda server... too bad that one never took hold
[02:26] <no0tic> nickrud, it has a password but I haven't set one...
[02:26] <amphi> gymsmoke: panda server? do you have a url? FWIW, plan 9 runs well under qemu on linux
[02:26] <conn> kingspawn: nope, same problem.. mplayer is the only one that works
[02:26] <gymsmoke> mwe: I still have some of the original documentation from the early 70's... K&R books on C, Stevens Unix program guides, etc..
[02:27] <kingspawn> conn: probably a codec problem, then. have you installed everything you need?
[02:27] <spikeb> i wish somebody would make a cde clone with lesstif :)
[02:27] <nickrud> no0tic, that's all I remember from my usage of mysql a couple of years ago or so ....
[02:27] <conn> not a codec problem, it's the wrong video output, maybe xshm.. the video is pixellated with totem/vlc uisng the X11 output
[02:27] <conn> *using
[02:27] <no0tic> nickrud, thanks anyway ;)
[02:28] <gymsmoke> amphi:panda was a hardware/software solution slated for academic environments - a quad cpu based SUN with all the bells and whistles... bleeding edge everything, including the first plasma displays... back in about 84 it cost $11,000 (USD)
[02:28] <rikai> Anyonne happen to know how to allow two users to use one computer running ubuntu simeltaneously without using some sort of thinclient?
[02:28] <nickrud> no0tic, do a google on debian-devel debian-sys-mantain ; that'll probably pull up the discussion of when it was implemented
[02:28] <Jean-Luc> amphi: Hey, its King-of-no-pants.  Sorry I ran out, couldn't avoit it.
[02:29] <amphi> gymsmoke: ah... I came across a dual ultrasparc laptop on the web a while back, probably costs about the same
[02:29] <amphi> Jean-Luc: no worries
[02:29] <rikai> mainly, since i dont have anything that supports pxe
[02:29] <Jean-Luc> amphi: do you care if I /msg you?
[02:29] <amphi> Jean-Luc: msg away
[02:29] <gymsmoke> mwe: anyway, the basics i'm ok with at this point... apache2, mysql/php 4 (love to take a shot at 5 but have been warned about that on a production box), bind9...
[02:30] <amphi> Jean-Luc: but it won't work, because you are not 'identified to services'
[02:30] <Jean-Luc> amphi: I just found that out
[02:30] <gymsmoke> amphi:about 6 years ago I got offered a Sparc/41 from a military friend of mine for $500 (USD)
[02:30] <mwe> gymsmoke: yeah
[02:30] <jonathan_> does anyone in here use sata raid ?
[02:30] <Jean-Luc> amphi: I'm gonna wait 'till I can use King-of-no-pants again, until i register it
[02:30] <nickrud> no0tic, as well, take a look at /usr/share/doc/mysql-server , there's bound to be an explanation there as well
[02:30] <gymsmoke> mwe: so mail is still a bit of a question, although, like i say, i can go either way - postfix or qmail/vpop ...
[02:31] <Jean-Luc> amphi: my ubuntu has been crashing all the time lately
[02:31] <amphi> Jean-Luc: you prefer 'King-of-no-pants'??
[02:31] <Jean-Luc> amphi: yes
[02:31] <gymsmoke> mwe: my only requirement for mail is that i can send and receive from my ubuntu workstation in my office, which is on a different server... smtp-relay (i believe that's the correct term)
[02:31] <no0tic> nickrud, tranks a lot
[02:31] <mwe> gymsmoke: well if you wanna be "political", postfix. also if you read it performs better on smaller sites
[02:32] <amphi> Jean-Luc: why is ubuntu crashing? what are the symptoms? X hangs?
[02:32] <gymsmoke> amphi: ever heard of "futurebus" ?
[02:32] <Jean-Luc> amphi: I installed it yesterday, on a system i got for free
[02:32] <nickrud> no0tic, thank me if the suggestions I had helped :)
[02:32] <amphi> gymsmoke: no
[02:32] <Jean-Luc> amphi: well, Im trying to figure that out
[02:32] <trainstroker> im back XD
[02:32] <amphi> Jean-Luc: what does it do when it 'crashes'?
[02:32] <bliss1_> hi
[02:32] <amphi> trainstroker: hurrah!
[02:32] <trainstroker> can i create a shortcut to an ntfs partition
[02:32] <Jean-Luc> amphi: The first crash was a random restart, then it flashed black and went into command line interface, it did that a few times, now its just "freezing"
[02:32] <trainstroker> i read some
[02:32] <trainstroker> actually alot
[02:33] <gymsmoke> amphi: built on the NIST 501C model, Siemens made this box that had a baseboard that used modular plugins for _all_hardware, including power supplies, cpus, fpus, comm, everything...
[02:33] <B_166-ER-X> harisund,  tried with a cdr...  same error a bad CHAR somewhere... i searched for the file, but didnt find it... so i just used the 'force the input charset' k3b option...and it worked... i am about to try this with a dvd in a few seconds
[02:33] <Jean-Luc> amphi: So far I'v used NDISWRAPPER to get my WAN card working, and I've been folling around with Folding at Home today
[02:33] <bliss1_> how much mem is this  is it 655mb ?mem=65536
[02:33] <Phlosten> 64MB?
[02:33] <gymsmoke> amphi: when you looked at the box, it looked like a clear acrylic board with a bunch of slots in it...
[02:33] <amphi> Jean-Luc: has it been crashing since you started folding@home?
[02:34] <Jean-Luc> amphi: no
[02:34] <gymsmoke> bliss1_: no
[02:34] <gymsmoke> bliss1_: the 2nd one is 65k
[02:34] <no0tic> nickrud, found the answer, thanks ;)
[02:34] <bliss1_> Pholsten: thanks
[02:34] <mwe> 64K
[02:34] <mwe> 64*1024 isn't it?
[02:34] <trainstroker> can i create a shortcut to an ntfs partition
[02:34] <Jean-Luc> amphi: Folding at home isn't even running, since I haven't gotten it to run at startup yet.
[02:34] <Phlosten> i was assuming that the 65536 was kb
[02:34] <Jean-Luc> amphi: But thats a project to do after I can get a stable system
[02:34] <Phlosten> :)
[02:35] <FlannelKing> !ntfs @ trainstroker
[02:35] <ubotu> FlannelKing: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:35] <FlannelKing> psh
[02:35] <FlannelKing> !ntfs
[02:35] <trainstroker> !ntfs
[02:35] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:35] <Jean-Luc> amphi: I replaced the CMOS battery today after advice from someone in this room
[02:35] <amphi> Jean-Luc: perhaps your ram is flakey? you could run memtest86
[02:35] <Jean-Luc> amphi: it might be
[02:35] <gymsmoke> 65Mb = 670720k
[02:36] <Jean-Luc> amphi: is memtest86 installed with Ubuntu?
[02:36] <amphi> Jean-Luc: if some addresses consistently give errors, there's a kernel patch that lets you tell the kernel not to use those addresses
[02:36] <mambotech> how do you play a .asx
[02:36] <Jean-Luc> amphi: neato, how would I find that out?
[02:36] <_jason> mambotech: mplayer with w32codecs works
[02:36] <amphi> Jean-Luc: you can install it, it should appear on grub's boot menu
[02:36] <amphi> Jean-Luc: memtest86 will tell you
[02:36] <mambotech> OK
[02:36] <gymsmoke> mwe: i may have to try out screen... this looks interesting...
[02:36] <_jason> ubotu: tell mambotech about mplayer
[02:36] <mwe> gymsmoke: I love it
[02:36] <_jason> ubotu: tell mambotech about w32codecs
[02:37] <lflashl> who do i change the sittings for mplayer to only open up once
[02:37] <amphi> Jean-Luc: you could also try running the processor a bit slower if the ram is marginal
[02:37] <Jean-Luc> amphi: okay, I'm gonna have to get the computer going, its in my basement, and I'm upstairs now.  I'll be back in a minute after I get memtest going
[02:37] <mwe> gymsmoke: it can even stay alive without a vt
[02:37] <Jean-Luc> amphi: the processor is 400Mhz
[02:37] <Jean-Luc> amphi: I don't want to run that slower
[02:37] <nickrud> lflashl, what do you mean, open only once. It only opens once here
[02:37] <amphi> Jean-Luc: 350MHz is enough for anyone ;)
[02:37] <mwe> gymsmoke: and you don't have to spam countless vts
[02:37] <Jean-Luc> amphi: Phoo!
[02:38] <gymsmoke> mwe: yeah - i need to give that a shot once my box is back...
[02:38] <Jean-Luc> amphi: The ram may be bad, im gonna go run memtest, and get back to you
[02:38] <amphi> Jean-Luc: you could also try running in console mode with no X running, and see if it still crashes; but spontaneous reboot sounds like ram
[02:38] <me2win> hey, is there a way to get rid of the icons of mounted devices from the desktop?
[02:38] <gymsmoke> mwe: i uninstalled that stupid panel and now i can't sync any of my apt sources... so i'm gonna just re-install
[02:38] <Jean-Luc> amphi: I've only had one spontaneous reboot
[02:38] <lflashl> yea but if i click on a new video/song with it open it will not open it in the current mplayer thats open
[02:39] <mwe> gymsmoke: oh
[02:39] <amphi> Jean-Luc: cosmic ray flipping a few bits? ;)
[02:39] <Jean-Luc> amphi: I've had most often, the flash right into console mode
[02:39] <_jason> !volumes_vis
[02:39] <ubotu> To remove devices from displaying on your gnome desktop open Gconf (applications > system tools > configuration editor) and uncheck /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible
[02:39] <gymsmoke> mwe: that's why i'm done with "magic pills" ... old school works much better
[02:39] <amphi> Jean-Luc: that sounds like X crashing - what video card is it?
[02:39] <Jean-Luc> amphi: ATI 3dRage IIc
[02:39] <mwe> gymsmoke: yeah. it pays off in the end I think
[02:40] <Comrade_Sergei> asdf25
[02:40] <trainstroker> when i try to access ntfs partition i get :You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "sda2"
[02:40] <Comrade_Sergei> it crashed linux
[02:40] <Jean-Luc> amphi: I have a Geforce2 Lying around here, should I swap it?
[02:40] <nickrud> I'll never remember volumes_vis
[02:40] <mwe> trainstroker: mount it differently, read !ntfs
[02:40] <Comrade_Sergei> when did he leave
[02:40] <trainstroker> !ntfs
[02:40] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:40] <trainstroker> i did
[02:40] <Comrade_Sergei> asdf25 of course
[02:40] <amphi> Jean-Luc: you could try - you'll need to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:40] <_jason> ubotu: tell trainstroker about ntfs
[02:40] <Jean-Luc> amphi: I've always liked Nvidia's linux support...
[02:40] <lflashl> and the answer is wht
[02:40] <gymsmoke> mwe: me, too.  i'd rather install each piece, config it, test it, and move on, than have one app that "does it all" and "borks it all"
[02:40] <Jean-Luc> amphi: eew
[02:41] <Jean-Luc> amphi: what do you mean by that?
[02:41] <_jason> trainstroker: on the wiki page, there is a table towards the middle of the page that explains how to change permissions in fstab
[02:41] <mwe> gymsmoke: yeah. well gotta go, good luck
[02:41] <amphi> Jean-Luc: I have an old radeon that's supported by xorg driver - proprietary drivers are t3h 3vi1 ;)
[02:41] <_jason> nickrud: change volumes_vis, I couldn't think of anything better
[02:41] <gymsmoke> mwe: yeah, i need to get some food... later
[02:41] <FlannelKing> Hmm.  What's the difference between checking ntpdate in services as opposed to going to time and date and doing it?
[02:41] <gymsmoke> later, all
[02:41] <nickrud> useful factoid though
[02:42] <Jean-Luc> amphi: do I just boot into console mode and type in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[02:42] <amphi> Jean-Luc: reconfigure xorg to use the appropriate driver for that card
[02:42] <amphi> Jean-Luc: with sudo prepended
[02:42] <Jean-Luc> amphi: for what card?
[02:42] <nickrud> hidevisible ?  hide_user_mountable :)
[02:42] <amphi> Jean-Luc: the nvidia one
[02:42] <Rug> Howdy all
[02:42] <Jean-Luc> amphi: ok, what do you want me to do after I put in the nvidia card?
[02:43] <amphi> Jean-Luc: sit back and enjoy a cigar ;)
[02:43] <Jean-Luc> amphi: sounds good, what about when I've finished the cigar?
[02:43] <Versed> great idea, gonna take my dog for a walk and have a partagas luisatania
[02:44] <amphi> Jean-Luc: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose a suitable driver, 'nv' perhaps, dunno
[02:44] <amphi> Versed: ;)
[02:44] <mzinz> How can i make a program come up when i log on in KDE?
[02:44] <Versed> good choice amphi?
[02:44] <keleus> anyone want to test my little web page?
[02:45] <amphi> Versed: no idea, sounds good though
[02:45] <Rug> sure shoot
[02:45] <keleus> mostly want to make sure my embedding works
[02:45] <Versed> ok
[02:45] <keleus> http://keleus.freeshell.org/fly.xhtml     be gentle, i get 50mbps/day
[02:45] <keleus> flash though
[02:46] <Jean-Luc> amphi: alright, im gonna switch computers, I'll be back on in a minute on a laptop next to the linux machine
[02:46] <amphi> keleus: looks nice in w3m ;)
[02:46] <Rug> ok in, what do you want me to check?
[02:46] <trainstroker> whats the termal command for write
[02:46] <Rug> very nice...
[02:46] <amphi> trainstroker: 'write'?
[02:46] <FlannelKing> trainstroker: write what?
[02:47] <keleus> amphi, cool, so it just gave you the filename right?
[02:47] <amphi> trainstroker: nano is a simple text editor if that's what you mean
[02:47] <keleus> also consider pico
[02:47] <amphi> keleus: '304212_Shoo_Fly.swf'
[02:47] <keleus> awsome.
[02:47] <keleus> check the source :P
[02:47] <trainstroker> i have 25 gigs of music on my ntfs partition. i want to access it on linux but i wanna make a shortcut (link?)
[02:47] <amphi> trainstroker: or mcedit
[02:47] <_jason> keleus: that's awesome
[02:47] <amphi> trainstroker: man ln
[02:47] <trainstroker> it tells my that i dont have write privelleges
[02:47] <keleus> of course I didn't do the animation
[02:48] <_jason> oh
[02:48] <FlannelKing> trainstroker: thats because linux can't write to ntfs
[02:48] <nickrud> keleus, that is one anal-retentive lady
[02:48] <Rug> trainstroker: Do you want to share the music between Win & linux?
[02:48] <keleus> so i guess it works. schweeet
[02:48] <keleus> first webpage on a host i actually have access to
[02:48] <amphi> trainstroker: the symlink won't be on the ntfs partition, it'll just point to [somewhere below]  the ntfs partition's mount point
[02:48] <keleus> geocities before then
[02:49] <nickrud> keleus, yup, clean and no skips
[02:49] <Hankdehannover> hi
[02:49] <keleus> and valid xhtml 1.0 strict
[02:49] <amphi> keleus: how much space do you have on there?
[02:49] <keleus> 100mb
[02:49] <keleus> 100 web, 100 mail, 100 personal, unlimited /tmp (but cant be a jerk about using it)
[02:49] <io> I am trying to play a movie with mplayer, when I go fullscreen it doesnt scale the image, it just stays tiny with black around it - I've tried -vo xv and -zoom but it doesnt change anything
[02:49] <keleus> 50mbps/day bandwidth (1.5gbps/month)
[02:50] <_jason> io: use 'xv' as the video output in preferences
[02:50] <Hankdehannover> any known rhapsody irc client
[02:50] <Phlosten> keleus, where at?
[02:50] <keleus> freeshell.org
[02:50] <amphi> io: what error do you get when you use -vo xv ?
[02:50] <nickrud> io, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for a good config for full screen
[02:50] <io> _jason, i just said it didnt work..
[02:50] <keleus> i'm an ARPA member, one time $36 donation
[02:50] <io> nickrud, thanks
[02:50] <keleus> basic members ($1 donation) get 20mb
[02:50] <amphi> io: -vo xv should work
[02:50] <nickrud> io, it's just a config that implements what amphi  said
[02:50] <King-Of-No-Pants> Im Back!
[02:50] <Phlosten> i have 200GB of storage with 768GB bandwidth per month
[02:51] <_jason> io: apologies... didn't read all the way through :)  Usually works if you have the video drivers installed, otherwise do zoom=yes in your config file
[02:51] <Rug> Phlosten: how much>
[02:51] <trainstroker> /home/phillip/Desktop
[02:51] <io> But.. it doesnt work for any of my players, not just mplayer
[02:51] <trainstroker> ln: `/home/phillip/Desktop': hard link not allowed for directory
[02:51] <amphi> io: zoom is very slow/processor intensive
[02:51] <Phlosten> US$10 per month
[02:51] <keleus> if your interested, just telnet/ssh into tty.freeshell.org
[02:51] <keleus> nice
[02:51] <keleus> Phlosten what kind of access
[02:51] <Phlosten> doesnt have shell stuff tho
[02:51] <Phlosten> :(
[02:51] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: im back
[02:51] <keleus> eh eh
[02:51] <tepy> Greetings all
[02:51] <keleus> i can IRC from my web host
[02:51] <keleus> watch this...
[02:52] <trainstroker> ln: `/home/phillip/Desktop': hard link not allowed for directory (what am i doing wrong)
[02:52] <amphi> io: what does xvinfo say?
[02:52] <nickrud> rimuhosting will sell you a breezy server install ...
[02:52] <amphi> io: pastebin it if you like
[02:52] <tepy> Question: Can I use a Debian (.deb) package to install something on breezy?
[02:52] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: so I see
[02:52] <_jason> io: actually, i guess zoom=yes is equivalent to -zoom... what vo are you using as default?
[02:52] <amphi> trainstroker: ln -s
[02:53] <amphi> trainstroker: ln -s <target> <link>
[02:53] <pax> Phlosten: whos your host?
[02:54] <pbransford> hi there. this is keleus... check my hostname
[02:54] <io> amphi, http://pastebin.com/668379
[02:54] <Phlosten> pax, netfirms.com
[02:54] <io> _jason, im not sure..
[02:54] <keleus> your smelly host doesn't let you do that :P
[02:54] <tepy> Question: Can I use a Debian (.deb) package to install something on breezy?
[02:54] <keleus> tepy, yes
[02:54] <tepy> Thank you
[02:54] <keleus> so long as it can satisfy dependencies
[02:54] <nickrud> tepy, no
[02:54] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: freenode is saying im already registered?
[02:55] <keleus> you may need to d/l a bunch of more packages, hopefully not
[02:55] <Phlosten> yes no yes no
[02:55] <tepy> I'll try it ... wait ... can I or ?
[02:55] <nickrud> tepy, actually, it really depends on the deb
[02:55] <amphi> io: by the look of that, -vo xv should work
[02:55] <OrTigaS> hi! is anyone used Procom or hyperterminal-like in LINUX?
[02:55] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: whatcha trying to do? sorry to barge in
[02:55] <tepy> The package is pretty simple, Crafty ... it's a chess engine
[02:55] <io> amphi, definately doesn't
[02:55] <pax> Phlosten: you said 200GB storage! got me to ask hehe
[02:55] <amphi> io: when you do mplayer -vo xv whatever do you see any error message that looks relevant?
[02:55] <kingspawn> tepy: you need crafty?
[02:55] <King-Of-No-Pants> kingspawn: well, at the moment im trying to register my nickname
[02:55] <nickrud> tepy, ubuntu does not promise binary compatibility with debian packages.
[02:55] <tepy> *nodnod*
[02:55] <Newbuntu> If you download a movie on a bit torrent and it comes in as many smaller rar files... how do you unrar them and join them?
[02:56] <King-Of-No-Pants> kingspawn: in linux, im trying to stop it from crashing
[02:56] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: /msg nickserv register <password>
[02:56] <io> amphi, VO: [xv]  352x216 => 352x216 Planar YV12
[02:56] <io> thats about it
[02:56] <pax> Phlosten: if it was indeed 200GB i'd give them $10 :-)
[02:56] <OrTigaS> hi! is anyone used Procom PLUS or hyperterminal-like in LINUX?
[02:56] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: ah, quite the challenge :)
[02:56] <King-Of-No-Pants> NickServ*	The nickname [king-of-no-pants]  is already registered
[02:56] <tepy> you got it running kingspawn?
[02:56] <io> oh and this: VDec: vo config request - 352 x 216 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV12)
[02:56] <io> VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0)
[02:57] <io> amphi, there's one more part: Movie-Aspect is 1.63:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
[02:57] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: now what whs that command to give the linux?
[02:57] <trainstroker>  when making multiple links, last argument must be a directory
[02:57] <Rug> Newbuntu: I can't help you with downloaded movies, but if you installed rar, you can type this:   rar -x filename.rar
[02:57] <OrTigaS> hello
[02:57] <Phlosten> pax, oooh aah extra 0 :)
[02:57] <King-Of-No-Pants> kingspawn: and no problem at all with you barging in, I could use all the help I can get
[02:57] <Rug> OrTigaS: Howdy
[02:57] <OrTigaS> hi! is anyone used Procom PLUS or hyperterminal-like in LINUX?
[02:57] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: well, does registering work?
[02:57] <nickrud> io, try doing the cut and paste from the page I gave you; once the move is running hit F. Does it go to full screen?
[02:58] <King-Of-No-Pants> kingspawn: no
[02:58] <Rug> I almost have the entire mirror of Ubuntu downloaded.   Now I can install machines super-fast from the local copy.  I'll rsync it every night so that it will always be uptodate.
[02:58] <Rug> I'm kinda jazzed, I wanna torch my system just so I can reinstall it!
[02:58] <mzinz> if a file has a '~' at the end, is that an auto save? do i need it?
[02:58] <io> nickrud, blackness and no scaling
[02:58] <amphi> io: that looks fine - what happens if you hit 'f' ?
[02:58] <trainstroker>  when making multiple links, last argument must be a directory (the laste argument is a idrector isnt it?)
[02:58] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: whats it say?
[02:58] <tepy> Never bargin with the kingpawn, it's a posioned pawn for sure.
[02:58] <io> amphi, blackness with no scaling
[02:58] <kingspawn> tepy: 1. e4 is the only sensible move
[02:58] <_jason> io: you are using mplayer from the repos?
[02:58] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:58] <King-Of-No-Pants> kingspawn: it says my name is already registered
[02:58] <amphi> io: that's wierd
[02:58] <io> _jason, yes
[02:58] <tepy> *grin* Okay Bobby
[02:58] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: did you register it?
[02:58] <OrTigaS> how can i use my USB BlueTooth?
[02:58] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: or someone else did
[02:58] <io> amphi, and its the same for other video players as well
[02:59] <kingspawn> tepy: come one, man, you gotta play the kings pawn
[02:59] <kingspawn> tepy: bobby is in iceland now
[02:59] <amphi> io: what color-depth is your x server running in?
[02:59] <kingspawn> tepy: he's cool
[02:59] <King-Of-No-Pants> kingspawn: no, and thats highly unlikely
[02:59] <tepy> Actually I do, could never get used to those 'wimpy' queenspawn games.
[02:59] <Rug> io: Did you play with the aspect ratio settings?
[02:59] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: agreed :)
[02:59] <tepy> I'm old school
[02:59] <io> amphi, not sure actually.. lol
[02:59] <io> Rug, i dont even know how :-)
[02:59] <_RocH> hi , where can I get QtCore >= 4.0.0 for breezy ?
[02:59] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: change your nick to something extremely exotic, and try to register that
[02:59] <tepy> still prefer discriptive notation even
[03:00] <pax> Phlosten: why don't you move your business to powweb and pay half of what you're paying now :-)
[03:00] <imc_> Hey I need to transfer files from one ubuntu machine to another across the lan - what;s the fastest way without a cable but both machines have wireless?
[03:00] <io> weird thing is, it was working before I rebooting.  All I did was a system upgrade
[03:00] <King-Of-No-Pants> kingspawn: I think I messed it up earlier
[03:00] <cyphase> .deb. is formatted as /tar/gv, right?
[03:00] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: yeah, then you gotta msg nickserv HELP
[03:00] <cyphase> .tar.gz*
[03:00] <josh__> bah. I just reinstalled ubuntu a few week ago, and I can't remember what I have to isntall to play dvds (decoder). what was it again :P?
[03:00] <nickrud> nalioth, you about?
[03:00] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: and try to sort it out
[03:00] <Phlosten> pax, *goes to look*, up for renewal in a few months
[03:00] <_RocH> imc_, ftp
[03:00] <amphi> io: what does xdpyinfo | grep depths show? paste the one line
[03:00] <nalioth> nickrud: i am
[03:00] <King-Of-No-Pants> kingspawn: I guess I will
[03:00] <pax> Phlosten: they give you free 12 months with one year service.
[03:00] <rikai> bbs, house is on.
[03:00] <imc_> _RocH, is that faster than samba or something else?
[03:01] <io> depths (7):    24, 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 32
[03:01] <nickrud> King-Of-No-Pants is trying to register his nick, but thinks he screwed up earllier
[03:01] <Rug> imc_: ftp is the fastest
[03:01] <imc_> Rug, thanks
[03:01] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: itll work outin the end
[03:01] <tepy> Okay, unless one of geeks warn me off I'm going to go install crafty from this here .deb file.
[03:01] <Box> hello, can anyone recomend a simple clock applet?
[03:01] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: just dont give it up
[03:01] <amphi> io: 24bpp is the default, which should be ok
[03:01] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: its a world ofgreat hacks once you get to know it
[03:01] <imc_> okay and now I get connection refused
[03:01] <tepy> Okay, unless one of you geeks warn me off I'm going to go install crafty from this here .deb file.
[03:01] <nalioth> King-Of-No-Pants: /msg nickserv register THE_PASS_YOU_WANT
[03:01] <King-Of-No-Pants> kingspawn: I believe you, but im trying to configure my xserver right now, so Im gonna put off registering for later
[03:02] <amphi> io: do you want to pastebin mplayer's output?
[03:02] <OrTigaS> how can i use my USB BlueTooth?
[03:02] <King-Of-No-Pants> oh crap!
[03:02] <King-Of-No-Pants> What keyboard options do I want?
[03:02] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: agreed :)
[03:02] <io> amphi, ok
[03:02] <_RocH> fastest but it take time to set up ftp server
[03:02] <_RocH> imc_, You can try ssh also
[03:02] <imc_> AAAAh
[03:02] <imc_> Thanks RocH
[03:02] <nickrud> King-Of-No-Pants, pay attention to nalioth, he'll set you straight
[03:02] <trainstroker> hwen i use hte ln command and there are spaces in the target it creates a different link for every word
[03:02] <tepy> bye all ... thanks
[03:02] <imc_> Anyone gnow of a GUI front end to set up ftp?
[03:02] <King-Of-No-Pants> kingspawn: I should have read that last page given to me by linux
[03:03] <_RocH> imc_, gproftpd
[03:03] <nalioth> King-Of-No-Pants: the default answers are usually the best
[03:03] <imc_> _RocH thanks again
[03:03] <_RocH> save it for later :d
[03:03] <King-Of-No-Pants> yeah, but this the default is blank
[03:03] <bsoft> oi pessoal....
[03:03] <King-Of-No-Pants> I want to make sure the numlock is turned on by default
[03:03] <King-Of-No-Pants> anyone know what I should put in>>
[03:03] <io> amphi, http://pastebin.com/668393
[03:03] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: thing to remember about linux: read :)
[03:03] <nalioth> King-Of-No-Pants: your xorg config has nothing to do with numlock
[03:03] <King-Of-No-Pants> kingspawn: yeah, I noticed
[03:04] <King-Of-No-Pants> nalitoh: ok, cool
[03:04] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: numlock often acts crazy
[03:04] <cyphase> What format is .deb in?
[03:04] <cyphase> .tar?
[03:04] <Sodium> how can I make Firestarter don't ask for a password on system startup?
[03:04] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: espec. around laptops, if thats what youre on
[03:04] <io> amphi, notice line 27 - don't know if thats important
[03:04] <King-Of-No-Pants> kingspawn: im putting linux on a desktop, im on a laptop at the moment
[03:05] <_RocH> Sodium, You can't it's the way it should be
[03:05] <nalioth> Sodium: firestarter doesnt need to run at all
[03:05] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: heh, just ask if you need some help
[03:05] <_RocH> if he got it from repo
[03:05] <amphi> io: looks like you have some other video prog running
[03:05] <King-Of-No-Pants> kingspawn: trust me, I will
[03:05] <Sodium> _RocH: I know it's the way it should be, but couldn't it be an exception?
[03:05] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: good, its the only way we learn
[03:05] <io> amphi, .. i don't think I do.. ?
[03:06] <amphi> io: ps aux | grep mplayer
[03:06] <King-Of-No-Pants> kingspawn: you, or me>
[03:06] <bimberi> !tell OrTigaS about bluetooth
[03:06] <_RocH> Sodium, if You installed firestarter from repo , it loads automaticaly , what's asking pass is just a GUI ...
[03:06] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: you and me both :)
[03:06] <io> amphi, i just did that same thing.  Fawk.  Thanks so much.. lol its working
[03:06] <King-Of-No-Pants> kingspawn: neato
[03:06] <io> amphi, I shoulda just rebooted ;-)
[03:06] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: hacking around is our way to linux knowledge
[03:06] <Sodium> _RocH: oh! I get it :) Thx
[03:06] <King-Of-No-Pants> kingspawn: this project is becoming much more difficult then I thought it would be
[03:07] <King-Of-No-Pants> kingspawn: I've used linux many times before, but this one is just being much more difficult
[03:07] <bliss1_> hi
[03:07] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: its just a hickup
[03:08] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: ive used it for years too
[03:08] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: ubuntu is usually very easy to set up
[03:08] <bsoft> Anyone Knows how to enable Wake On Lan service?
[03:08] <_RocH> I'm building banshee-0.10.9 , I'm stuck on avahi , it needs QtCore >= 4.0.0. , where is it hiding ? :>
[03:08] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: but with idiotic hardware standards, everything gets botched once in a while
[03:08] <bliss1_> what does the -fr mean in this command rm -fr xen-3.0.1
[03:08] <King-Of-No-Pants> kingspawn: Its good thou, because I need it to go wrong, this computer was free, and getting it to work is more educational than if it just worked from the get go
[03:08] <kingspawn> bliss1_: f = force, r = recursive
[03:08] <ptlo> bliss1_: force, recursive
[03:08] <amphi> io: cool - so do 'echo vo=xv' >> ~/.mplayer/config and you won't need to type -vo vx any more
[03:08] <_RocH> bliss1_, force , recurse
[03:08] <kingspawn> ptlo: great minds..
[03:08] <King-Of-No-Pants> kingspawn: Crap!
[03:09] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: no doubt
[03:09] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: installers that f*** iup teach you a whole lot
[03:09] <King-Of-No-Pants> kingspawn: i just configured the xserver, and it didnt take
[03:09] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: don't bother with x ;)
[03:10] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: you just told me to...
[03:10] <bliss1_> kingspawn: so it cleans the directory completly
[03:10] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: should I use the kernel framebuffer instead?
[03:10] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: interface*
[03:10] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: ? you mean framebuffer console?
[03:11] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: what x driver did you choose?
[03:11] <kingspawn> bliss1_: yeah. it forces files that dont want to comply, and it takes subdirs, forcing those that wont
[03:11] <kingspawn> King-Of-No-Pants: oh?
[03:11] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: xserver is asking me if I would like to use kernel framebuffer device interface, should I?
[03:11] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: I haven't gotten that far
[03:11] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: dunno - try yes, and then no if it doesn't work
[03:11] <lflashl> how do i use apt-get to update firefox?
[03:12] <Rug> imc_: lflashl sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:12] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: Im using the nv driver
[03:12] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: some card/driver combos like it, some don't, I believe
[03:12] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: it detectd the driver and card properly
[03:12] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: cool
[03:12] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: Now I am back to a command line
[03:12] <Rug> lflashl: do in this order:  apt-get update,  apt-get upgrade
[03:13] <trainstroker> how do i install debs
[03:13] <Tennessee> train: with dpkg
[03:13] <Rug> dpk -i package.deb
[03:13] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: what runlevel are you in?
[03:13] <bliss1_> kingspawn: so can i use that dirctory again the full instruction is rm -fr xen-3.0.1  then rm -fr xen-3.0.1 and cd xen-3.0.1/
[03:13] <Rug> gpkg rather
[03:13] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: pardon?
[03:13] <Rug> ack
[03:13] <_RocH> =)
[03:13] <UbuntuNewbie> hello everyone
[03:13] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: are you in single user mode?
[03:13] <Rug> I gotta stop typing in the dark.
[03:13] <King-Of-No-Pants> jesse@ubuntu:~$
[03:13] <Rylie> how do you derect connect on aim to send picture>
[03:14] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: should be
[03:14] <lflashl> and this should update my firefox to 1.5?
[03:14] <bliss1_> kingspawnsorry then tar -xvzf xen-3.0.1-src.tgz
[03:14] <Rug> Rylie: are you connected using gaim?
[03:14] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: ctrl-d should do normal startup
[03:14] <Hobbsee> !tell lflashl about firefox1.5
[03:14] <Rylie> ya i thnk
[03:14] <King-Of-No-Pants> now It is asking me to log in
[03:14] <kingspawn> blindx: no no
[03:14] <kingspawn> bliss1_: no, no
[03:14] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: but it is still command line
[03:14] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: gui?
[03:14] <bliss1_> kingspawn: just a sec
[03:14] <kingspawn> bliss1_: if you rm -rf a directory, it is GONe
[03:14] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: no
[03:14] <Rylie> can some one help me
[03:14] <Rylie> please
[03:15] <Rug> Rylie: drag & drop a file into your chat window
[03:15] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: login and do sudo telinit 2 perhaps
[03:15] <keleus> how would i filter a log file to only show lines with "keleus" on them?
[03:15] <amphi> keleus: grep
[03:15] <_jason> keleus: grep keleus /path/to/logfile
[03:15] <Rug> keleus: cat filename |grep keleus
[03:15] <Tennessee> King-Of-No-Pants: What's the trouble?
[03:15] <keleus> thanks
[03:15] <UbuntuNewbie> i need help on SAMBA regarding Authentication required
[03:16] <keleus> i was thinking grip for some reason. no wonder it wouldn't work :)
[03:16] <Rylie> it wont let me
[03:16] <UbuntuNewbie> theres a domain field and im not sure what to put it
[03:16] <amphi> keleus: heh
[03:16] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: Alright, I did the telinit 2, and it didn't change anything
[03:16] <kingspawn> UbuntuNewbie: have you read "man samba"?
[03:16] <Rug> Rylie: what error are you getting?
[03:16] <NytWolf> Looking for assistance... two Nic cards, both configured and up via ifup, can ping both ip addresses from the ubuntu server and another computer on same network. However, causes software to no longer accept connections on either port.
[03:16] <amphi> !tell UbuntuNewbie about samba
[03:17] <Rylie> nothing it just wont let me do it the page always goes infront of the other
[03:17] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: I am at a command line
[03:17] <bliss1_> kingspawn: the instruction is rm -fr xen-3.0.1 then tar -xvzf xen-3.0.1-src.tgz and then cd xen-3.0.1/ so its kiling the old one and starting the new
[03:17] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: last time I was here, I restarted and had to do the xorg config over again
[03:17] <lflashl> still tying to work out how to make mplayer use the current window open to play new music
[03:17] <Rug> Rylie: try minimising so you can see both windows
[03:17] <Tennessee> King-Of-No-Pants: I've done a bit of xorg jiggering and pokering
[03:17] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: what does runlevel say?
[03:18] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: I have no idea
[03:18] <kingspawn> bliss1_: yeah, seems right.
[03:18] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: pfft - type 'runlevel' and hit enter
[03:18] <Rylie> ok thank you
[03:18] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: Jesse@ubuntu:~$_
[03:18] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: N 2
[03:18] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: help is coming from everywhere!
[03:18] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: try startx perhaps
[03:19] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: I just swapped graphics cards
[03:19] <Tennessee> King-Of-No-Pants: That's nice. What broke?
[03:19] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: we are getting somewhere!
[03:19] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: We suspect the old ATI 3dRage IIc
[03:19] <NytWolf> I'd like some help involving multiple NICs in the same system running Ubuntu
[03:19] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: you could read man nv for info about the driver
[03:19] <Rug> King-Of-No-Pants: ohh bad
[03:19] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: I suspect RAM
[03:19] <King-Of-No-Pants> bad?
[03:20] <King-Of-No-Pants> rug: pardon?
[03:20] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: does startx work?
[03:20] <mram> hello
[03:20] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: yes!
[03:20] <Tennessee> King-Of-No-Pants: You still haven't described the problem for me ... I missed the start of this conversation.
[03:20] <Rug> King-Of-No-Pants: I've had metric assloads of problems getting those cards to work
[03:20] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: rejoice
[03:20] <mram> any good gui antivirus avaible for linux?
[03:20] <jonathan_> is anyone having problems with cups besides me?
[03:20] <King-Of-No-Pants> Success!
[03:20] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: my X is working again
[03:20] <amphi> mram: antivirus?
[03:20] <jonathan_> unable to open subscriptions.conf and classes.conf
[03:20] <bliss1_> kingspawn; only thing is when i do http://www.xensource.com/products/downloads/dl_x30tarball_bt.html with BitTorrent the sorce tar has been upgarded to 3.0. 2-2 how to get 3.0.1?
[03:20] <Tennessee> King: Congrats! You might want to move from nv to nvidia at some point though
[03:21] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: Now I'll run it for a while and see if it still crashes
[03:21] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: you just need gdm to start at boot time now (unless you like startx, as I do)
[03:21] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: How should I do that?
[03:21] <mram> amphi: yeah i had AVG for 5.10 but it doesn't work with Flight6
[03:21] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: How do I go about doing that?
[03:21] <tritium> !tell King-Of-No-Pants about nvidia
[03:21] <Tennessee> King: apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:21] <kingspawn> bliss1_: say whaaat?
[03:21] <NytWolf> Can anyone provide network configuration help?
[03:21] <Tennessee> That will install it. You will then get a choice about whether to actually use it or not
[03:21] <Tennessee> I'd make a copy of your working xorg.conf first
[03:21] <Rug> NytWolf: ask your question
[03:21] <amphi> Tennessee: for that card?
[03:22] <Tennessee> amphi: the Nvidia driver is supposed to work for all nvidia cards.
[03:22] <Tennessee> Supposed to.
[03:22] <amphi> Tennessee: ah...
[03:22] <bliss1_> kinspawn: say what to do
[03:22] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: I'll take your word for it
[03:22] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: do you need 3d accel on that card? otherwise the nv driver is fine
[03:23] <Tennessee> 3d is nice. It'll speed up X a bit anyway.
[03:23] <cafuego> Tennessee: There's an nvidia-glx-legacy for older (geforce2 and earlier) cards.
[03:23] <NytWolf> Rug: I have eth0 and eth1 configured and working. I can ping both cards from the Ubuntu system itself and from a Windows machine. However, if I have both up via ifup it breaks software, such as SSH and doesn't allow SSH to accept any connections.
[03:23] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: I don't think so, but I'm already in too deep!
[03:23] <NytWolf> Rug: It does it with Apache as well.
[03:23] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: if you don't, I'd stick with the xorg driver
[03:23] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: Alright, I've installed nvidia
[03:23] <Tennessee> I have this weird problem where I need to bring eth0 down and up manually each time I boot up in order to get networking. Anyone know of this?
[03:23] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: too late!
[03:23] <Rug> NytWolf: you need to desigante one of the cards as 'primary'
[03:23] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: heh
[03:23] <bliss1_> kingspawn: ; only thing is when i do http://www.xensource.com/products/downloads/dl_x30tarball_bt.html with BitTorrent the sorce tar has been upgarded to 3.0.2-2 how to get 3.0.1? what to do
[03:23] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: now how do I get X to load at startup?
[03:24] <Tennessee> King-Of-No-Pants: Once you've installed it, you need to run nvidia-xconfig
[03:24] <NytWolf> Rug: Do I do that in configuration file? (/etc/network/interfaces)
[03:24] <Rug> NytWolf: I don't use gnome, but I know the option is in there
[03:24] <kingspawn> bliss1_: im not exactly sure what youre asking here.
[03:24] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: why isn't it now? did you remove the init script symlinks?
[03:24] <Rug> NytWolf: you can use the GUI
[03:24] <NytWolf> Rug: I working with pure command line
[03:24] <Tennessee> Otherwise you won't be using what you've just installed
[03:24] <Rug> NytWolf: one sec...
[03:24] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: well, i guess it is
[03:24] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: i havent done anything
[03:24] <NytWolf> Rug: Thank you very much
[03:24] <MrRio> How come ubuntu won't generate host keys on boot if they don't exist?
[03:25] <bliss1_> kingspawn: trying to get source file cos must delete old one
[03:25] <cafuego> They get generated when you install the openssh-server
[03:25] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: does /etc/rc2.d/?gdm?? exist?
[03:25] <MrRio> cafuego, Im mirroring this exact install and don't want the same private keys
[03:25] <MrRio> can u help?
[03:25] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: er, /etc/rc2.d/S??gdm
[03:25] <Rug> NytWolf: I don't know what it is sorry
[03:26] <cafuego> MrRio: Just rerun the ssh server postinst script.
[03:26] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[03:26] <Tennessee> apt-get install nvidia-xconfig
[03:26] <NytWolf> Rug: Thanks anyway. You gave me a starting point at least. I didn't know I needed to set a primary adapter.
[03:26] <bliss1_> kingspawn: old source file has been upgraded from 3,0,1 to 3.0.2-2  diffrent source diffrent way it compiles
[03:26] <cafuego> 'sudo /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.postinst'
[03:26] <kingspawn> bliss1_: its not easy to understand, but just rm -rf old one and get new one
[03:26] <Tennessee> apt-get install nvidia-setttings
[03:26] <arthur> can anyone tell me where can i update the latest gcc (4.1.0)  for the breezy 5.1 ?
[03:27] <Rug> NytWolf: yeah I had this problem with my laptop and swapping between WLAN & LAN
[03:27] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: the rc2.d is full of files
[03:27] <rabeldable> join /#perl
[03:27] <MrRio> cafuego: So, check for existance in the init script, then run.. dpkg-reconfigure or something?
[03:27] <cafuego> arthur: breezy does not come with gcc 4.1
[03:27] <arthur> why ?
[03:27] <cafuego> MrRio: for instance.
[03:27] <arthur> :(
[03:28] <cafuego> arthur: It wasn't stable when breezy was released.
[03:28] <harisund> What is the first problem that comes to your minds when I say that my audio driver is detected, sounds are all playing fine, but it is not recording my microphone input?
[03:28] <cafuego> !info gcc-4.0 breezy
[03:28] <ubotu> gcc-4.0: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 486 kB, Installed size: 1264 kB
[03:28] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: gdm is amongst them?
[03:28] <imc_> FTP has driven me mad. Now trying to do samba. the mount command is correct but I'm getting Access Denied. What can I check to see if samba is on? Firewall is off
[03:28] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: s13gdm is
[03:28] <cafuego> arthur: In fact, even gcc 4.0 wasn't good enough to build kernels with when breezy was released.
[03:28] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: you should have gui login then
[03:28] <harisund> imc_ What was the problem you had with FTP? It works fine for me.
[03:28] <King-Of-No-Pants> neato.
[03:29] <imc_> harisund, connection refused even with localhost. And basically I am trying to get my whole /home directory across the LAN.
[03:29] <arthur> but the gcc 4.0.2 is also not stable . and today i found the boost:asio can not build on 4.0.2
[03:29] <imc_> Can you help me figure it out harisund?
[03:29] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: i dont, thou
[03:29] <cafuego> arthur: try gcc 3.3 then.
[03:29] <cafuego> arthur: 4.1 is likely to be *more* unstable.
[03:29] <amphi> King-Of-No-Pants: have you rebooted?
[03:29] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: no
[03:29] <harisund> imc_ I don't know much about Samba. But I have installed proftpd and FTP works for me..
[03:30] <arthur> #if defined(__GNUC__) \                                                                                                       |-  daytime_client.cpp (/home/a  && (__GNUC__ == 4 && __GNUC_MINOR__ == 0 && __GNUC_PATCHLEVEL__ == 2)                                                       ||-   function
[03:30] <arthur> #warning iostreams example is disabled for gcc 4.0.2                                                                          |||     main
[03:30] <arthur> int main() {}                                                                                                                 |||     main
[03:30] <arthur> #else
[03:30] <King-Of-No-Pants> woah!
[03:30] <arthur> oh
[03:30] <cafuego> !paste
[03:30] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[03:30] <arthur> ok thanks .
[03:30] <King-Of-No-Pants> amphi: im gonna reboot
[03:30] <imc_> okay I will try again thanks
[03:30] <harisund> imc_ I could help you install and get FTP working using the proftpd server if you want. But I have no idea about SAMBA, well a little maybe.
[03:30] <cafuego> arthur: Use gcc 3.3
[03:30] <imc_> E: Couldn't find package proftp
[03:30] <harisund> imc_ What would you prefer? Samba or FTP?
[03:31] <imc_> Doh! Found it. Installing proftp harisund
[03:31] <harisund> imc_ OK.
[03:31] <imc_> okay it is installed harisund
[03:32] <harisund> imc_ Ok, so we are going with FTP right?
[03:32] <imc_> yep
[03:32] <_tyler> if a file has a '~' at the end, is that an auto save? do i need it?
[03:32] <harisund> imc_ Just a minute. I will walk you through what else you need to install.
[03:32] <_tyler> how do i change from military time to normal? I CANNOT figure it out.
[03:32] <harisund> imc_ Let me check my own machine too.
[03:32] <imc_> Thank you so much harisund
[03:32] <imc_> :)
[03:32] <imc_> _tyler right click on the clock
[03:32] <harisund> imc_ Ok first up,  you are familiar with the command line, right?
[03:32] <imc_> Select preferences
[03:33] <imc_> harisund, yep
[03:33] <harisund> imc_ Ok. Then we do this: "sudo apt-get install inetutils-inetd proftpd"
[03:33] <King-Of-No-Pants> !a
[03:33] <ubotu> King-Of-No-Pants: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:33] <imc_> yep
[03:33] <ssw2> Ok, I am trying to install ubuntu 5.10 for mac and far as i get when booting from the cd is Can't open config file yatta yatt
[03:33] <imc_> done
[03:33] <King-Of-No-Pants> Good News everyone!
[03:33] <harisund> imc_ Ok. Now hang on, while I make a pasting on Ubuntu Paste Bin
[03:33] <Madpilot> _tyler, you mean 24hr time on the desktop clock?
[03:34] <King-Of-No-Pants> My GUI Works again!
[03:34] <bimberi> _tyler: gedit (for one) creates file~ files as backups - can be deleted (note: nautilus treates them as hidden)
[03:34] <imc_> _tyler did you see my comment regarding the clock?
[03:34] <ssw2> any help for me
[03:34] <_tyler> imc_: yeah, ive done it like 20 times and cna't figure it out
[03:34] <harisund> imc_ Before that, are you trying to access the machine with FTP on another machine on the same LAN, or from outside, or what other configuration?
[03:34] <_tyler> bimberi: why can i see them then?
[03:34] <imc_> Right click on the clock, select prefs then unselect 24 hour clock
[03:35] <ssw2> ?
[03:35] <Tennessee> King-Of-No-Pants: Check your xorg.conf and tell us which driver you have listed
[03:35] <imc_> harisund, accessing from within the lan within the firewall expecting to do lftp 192.168.1.x thenlogin
[03:35] <bimberi> _tyler: in nautilus? View -> Show Hidden Files
[03:35] <harisund> imc_ Ok good. Hang on.
[03:35] <ssw2> Can't install Ubuntu 5.10 on my Blue and white G3
[03:35] <imc_> s/within the firewall/behind the firewall ;)
[03:35] <_tyler> imc_: i dont have prefs.. im in kde
[03:35] <King-Of-No-Pants> tennessee: where is that?
[03:35] <imc_> _tyler AH! Sorry, I thought gnome
[03:35] <Tennessee> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:35] <King-Of-Pants> thanks
[03:35] <AngryElf> if part of a script in /etc/rc2.d/ has run at boot but part of it hasn't where should I look to possibly find out why?
[03:35] <wray> hello all. Anyone knows how can I change my system clock frequency to 1000Hz without recompiling the kernel?
[03:36] <Tennessee> That file controls all your GUI settings -- where you'd put extra monitor settings, flags to your graphics card to control its modes, resolutions etc.
[03:36] <Tennessee> You might want to add a projector there one day, for example.
[03:36] <Chadza> What would anyone reccomend some java work in ubuntu, other than Eclipse?
[03:36] <ssw2> somebody pm me if they can help me with installing ubunto on Blue and white apple g3
[03:36] <harisund> imc_ Now, start editing (with sudo) the file /etc/proftpd.conf
[03:36] <Tennessee> Chadza: gvim! :)
[03:37] <Chadza> Tennessee, I'll check it out.
[03:37] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: Driver "NV"
[03:37] <Gau> Visual Basic killed BASIC
[03:37] <ssw2> ?????
[03:37] <hiram> VB sucks
[03:37] <Tennessee> King-Of-No-Pants: You're still using the unaccelerated driver. That's okay-ish for your GUI, but bad for some things.
[03:37] <harisund> imc_ You can change the ServerName to whatever you want. Change the ServerType to inetd. Look for "user" and "group" and change both to reflect your username.
[03:37] <harisund> imc_ Got that?
[03:37] <Tennessee> King-Of-No-Pants: Games are the obvious one, but also some apps will be much slower.
[03:37] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: I don't need accelleration...
[03:37] <ssw2> no help for me i guess
[03:38] <ssw2> damn
[03:38] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: All I want is Firefox and Gaim on this computer
[03:38] <imc_> yep one sec... okay looks good.  ALl I really neede to change is the server name yes?
[03:38] <Tennessee> King-Of-No-Pants: If you really don't care, then fair enough. But it's not just acceleration -- it's TwinView (second monitor) also.
[03:38] <harisund> imc_ server name, user and group.
[03:38] <harisund> imc_ Make sure user and group are both the same as your username.
[03:38] <imc_> Ah, gotchya!
[03:38] <King-Of-Pants> Tennessee: What did I not do, when I installed the nvidia driver?
[03:38] <harisund> imc_ The server type is inetd, right?
[03:38] <bimberi> ssw2: if "Blue and white apple g3" constitutes an old world mac then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OldWorldMacs
[03:38] <imc_> yes
[03:38] <harisund> That is important imc_
[03:38] <harisund> Ok good.
[03:38] <ssw2> Its a new world
[03:39] <King-Of-Pants> Tennessee: I thought I installed that driver.
[03:39] <harisund> imc_ Next step. You want it to listen on port 21, right? The default one?
[03:39] <imc_> you mean like if my user name was fred and I was in group users I should change it to User fred Group users right harisund?
[03:39] <Tennessee> King-Of-Pants: You did, but you're not using it. It's just sitting there as files on disk doing nothing.
[03:39] <bimberi> ssw2: kk
[03:39] <ssw2> It will bot from cd but then it gives error when booting cd
[03:39] <imc_> and yes, port 21 is fine
[03:39] <ssw2> while*
[03:39] <harisund> No no, by default Ubuntu creates a group for you with the same name as your username. Hence your file would have fred next to both user and group.
[03:39] <King-Of-Pants> Tennessee: So how do I enable it, it sounds sexy.
[03:39] <imc_> okay thanks
[03:40] <imc_> okay that's done. . .
[03:40] <Tennessee> King: You need to install nvidia-xconfig and run it. It will them recombobulate your xorg.conf file. Back it up first, you might break something.
[03:40] <harisund> imc_ Next step. You want it to listen on port 21, right? The default one?
[03:40] <MrRio> cafuego: cheers :D
[03:40] <imc_> yes
[03:40] <cafuego> it went 'ping'!
[03:40] <harisund> imc_ So let's make sure nothing else is listening on port 21 already.
[03:40] <imc_> We're good
[03:40] <King-Of-Pants> tennessee: I installed nvidia-xconfig
[03:40] <harisund> imc_ To do this, execute "sudo netstat -plant"
[03:40] <ssw2> ?
[03:40] <Tennessee> If you break something, just copy the backup over the top and everything will work again.
[03:40] <IceTox> Hey, I wanna start the sshd service. shouldn't "sshd" cover that in terminal?
[03:40] <King-Of-Pants> tenessee: now I have to run it
[03:40] <cafuego> ssw2: Reburn the CD, but burn it slowly.
[03:40] <Tennessee> King: Bingo. Hold onto your pants!
[03:41] <harisund> imc_ This will show you a list of what application is listening on what port.
[03:41] <ssw2> Its a cd that i ordered
[03:41] <bobby> ok how install stuff on this
[03:41] <imc_> yep harisund, we're clean on 21
[03:41] <bobby> ?
[03:41] <ssw2> I got them free
[03:41] <cafuego> ssw2: it may be broken. Do you have others?
[03:41] <ssw2> yes
[03:41] <cafuego> Tried others too?
[03:41] <imc_> harisund...one sec
[03:41] <ssw2> let me try
[03:41] <bobby> can someone answer a dumb question for me?
[03:42] <imc_> this is weird: tcp6       0      0 :::21                   :::*                    LISTEN     2
[03:42] <bimberi> ~tell bobby about synaptic
[03:42] <brandon_> how do i make video players cache web streams to about 35% before starting playback?
[03:42] <ssw2> welll if this helps neither live or install will boot
[03:42] <King-Of-Pants> Tennessee: I'm all backed up
[03:42] <bimberi> !tell bobby about synaptic
[03:42] <ssw2> they give same answer
[03:42] <cafuego> ssw2: Which answer is that?
[03:42] <bobby> whats synaptic
[03:42] <harisund> Ok sure.
[03:42] <Tennessee> King: Well, then you can just go for it.
[03:42] <King-Of-Pants> Tennessee: Now what?
[03:42] <King-Of-Pants> Tennessee: ?
[03:42] <imc_> we're still good?
[03:42] <Tennessee> run nvidia-xconfig
[03:42] <harisund> Ok. Next, start editing (with sudo) the file /etc/inetd.conf so that it has one line, " ftpstreamtcpnowaitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd/usr/sbin/proftpd"
[03:42] <Tennessee> Then look at xorg.conf again and see how it's changed.
[03:42] <Tennessee> Then restart X.
[03:43] <harisund> imc_ Everything I typed above in quotes, in one line (without the quotes of course)
[03:43] <bimberi> bobby: it's a program that helps you install programs (see the link in a /msg from ubotu)
[03:43] <King-Of-Pants> Tennessee: where is it?
[03:43] <imc_> right
[03:43] <King-Of-Pants> Tennessee: nvidia-config...
[03:43] <imc_> Actuallyit's there already harisund ;)
[03:43] <Tennessee> nvidia-xconfig. It should just be on your path
[03:43] <harisund> imc_ Oh so it was there. Ok good. I thought I had edited it manually. Neat.
[03:43] <bobby> well if i could get to command line i would be ok
[03:43] <Tennessee> I can run it from anywhere
[03:43] <imc_> :)
[03:44] <King-Of-Pants> Tennessee: what should I type into the terminal?
[03:44] <IceTox> Hey. I wanna start sshd server on my ubuntu computer.. How do I do it in terminal? I'm used to "sshd" should work. Seems not in this case as I'm asked for a full path.
[03:44] <ssw2> Can't open config file
[03:44] <bimberi> bobby: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[03:44] <Tennessee> Try nvidia<tab><tab> and see what comes up
[03:44] <harisund> imc_ Now let's start the server. Here's the ultimate command "sudo invoke-rc.d inetutils-inetd start"
[03:44] <harisund> imc_ Looks like our pal IceTox is having a similar problem :D
[03:44] <ssw2> then Welcome to yaboot Version 1.3.13 then its got   boot:
[03:44] <bobby> ty your a life saver
[03:44] <bobby> :d
[03:44] <imc_> coool
[03:44] <King-Of-Pants> # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
[03:44] <King-Of-Pants> #
[03:44] <King-Of-Pants> # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
[03:44] <King-Of-Pants> # values from the debconf database.
[03:44] <King-Of-Pants> #
[03:44] <King-Of-Pants> # Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.
[03:44] <King-Of-Pants> # (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
[03:44] <King-Of-Pants> #
[03:44] <King-Of-Pants> # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
[03:44] <cafuego> !paste
[03:44] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[03:44] <King-Of-Pants> # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
[03:44] <King-Of-Pants> # package.
[03:44] <harisund> Nooooooooooooooooooooooo King-of-pants not here.
[03:44] <King-Of-Pants> #
[03:44] <King-Of-Pants> # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
[03:44] <cafuego> King-Of-Pants: Stop it!
[03:45] <King-Of-Pants> # again, run the following command:
[03:45] <imc_> King-Of_Pants come one now
[03:45] <King-Of-Pants> #   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:45] <FlannelKing> this is going to get long.
[03:45] <King-Of-Pants> Section "Files"
[03:45] <imc_> This is really inconsiderate
[03:45] <King-Of-Pants> 	FontPath	"/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc"
[03:45] <cafuego> !ops
[03:45] <_jason> King-Of-Pants: /quit please
[03:45] <King-Of-Pants> 	FontPath	"/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
[03:45] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[03:45] <King-Of-Pants> 	FontPath	"/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
[03:45] <King-Of-Pants> 	FontPath	"/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
[03:45] <King-Of-Pants> 	FontPath	"/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1"
[03:45] <FlannelKing> someone mute him until the paste is done ;)
[03:45] <cafuego> thanks guys
[03:45] <harisund> Thanks ops !
[03:45] <ssw2> pm me
[03:45] <slavik> you can unban him ...
[03:45] <slavik> nvm
[03:45] <imc_> harisund - W0000T
[03:45] <IceTox> harisund, I should start it with "sudo sshd start" ?
[03:45] <luigi> i need help
[03:45] <cafuego> ssw2: Do you have the server or workstatuion B&W G3? (SCSI or IDE?)
[03:45] <harisund> IceTox: What did you do to get a SSH server first?
[03:45] <ssw2> ide
[03:46] <cafuego> 'k
[03:46] <luigi> i need help
[03:46] <bimberi> IceTox: have you installed open-ssh-server?  (it isn't installed by default)
[03:46] <harisund> IceTox By default only a SSH client gets installed with Ubuntu.
[03:46] <imc_> harisund, thanks so much. Up, running and connected. Much obliged
[03:46] <King-Of-No-Pants> .
[03:46] <OrTigaS> hi! is anyone used Procom PLUS or hyperterminal-like in LINUX?
[03:46] <King-Of-No-Pants> sorry!
[03:46] <harisund> imc_ Yay. You want to try Samba too?
[03:46] <ssw2> it has apple oem cd drive
[03:46] <IceTox> harisund, got it through apt-get
[03:46] <King-Of-No-Pants> that was an accident!
[03:46] <Amaranth> !pastebin
[03:46] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[03:46] <bobby> ok now it wont let me login as root
[03:46] <King-Of-No-Pants> i didnt even mean to paste anything
[03:46] <bobby> wth
[03:46] <imc_> harisund - not today!!!!!!
[03:46] <jbjuly> OrTigaS: minicom
[03:46] <FlannelKing> !tell bobby about root
[03:46] <cafuego> ssw2: *nod* that's actually a rebadged sony
[03:46] <Madpilot> OrTigaS, kill the away spam, please
[03:46] <imc_> Thanks so much
[03:46] <luigi> how do i install a ati x600 driver?
[03:46] <tritium> King-Of-No-Pants: no problem
[03:46] <harisund> imc_ That's cool . No problem.
[03:46] <Tennessee> King: Okay, get up your command terminal and type nvidia, and hit tab a couple of times
[03:46] <harisund> IceTox are you still there?
[03:46] <ssw2> well, figured
[03:46] <cafuego> !tell luigi -about fglrx
[03:47] <slavik> !tell luigi about ati
[03:47] <tritium> King-Of-No-Pants: only reason I +q'ed you was to stop the paste
[03:47] <harisund> IceTox are you sure a SSH server is not already running? If you had installed it, generally it automatically starts running.
[03:47] <IceTox> harisund, the apt-get version of it might have overwrited the previously installed ubuntu version? I haven't added any debian sources.
[03:47] <King-Of-No-Pants> good move
[03:47] <VideoToaster> Anybody here have experience with Evolution and Microsoft Exchange?  I've got it working but all of the time stamps are off by four hours.
[03:47] <King-Of-No-Pants> tritium: good move
[03:47] <harisund> IceTox: Previously installed? There is no previously installed version.
[03:47] <tritium> King-Of-No-Pants: thanks, and don't worry about it :0
[03:47] <IceTox> harisund, yes it's running, but I really wanna know how to start it again if I shut it down :-)
[03:47] <harisund> IceTox: There is only a previously installed SSH client, and *NOT* a server.
[03:47] <cafuego> VideoToaster: Are you in a +4 timezone?
[03:47] <harisund> IceTox: Here are the commands for starting and shutting it down.
[03:47] <IceTox> ok harisund =)
[03:48] <harisund> IceTox: Start: "sudo invoke-rc.d ssh start" Stop: "sudo invoke-rc.d ssh stop"
[03:48] <King-Of-No-Pants> tritium: I just backed up my x.config file, and i was trying to copy a line from my terminal window, but you cant copy out of the terminal window, and i pasted my xorg.conf file in here
[03:48] <cafuego> ssw2: I'm not sure how to go about this; maybe zap the pram and see if that helps...
[03:48] <tritium> King-Of-No-Pants: yeah, no big deal.  We handled it.  We're cool.
[03:48] <VideoToaster> cafuego:  I'm in EST.  I figured it was the time zone setting, but I couldn't find any way to fix Evolution.
[03:48] <ssw2> Can i do that without a mac keyboard
[03:48] <harisund> Does anybody know where Gaim stores its sounds?
[03:48] <ssw2> I just have a pc usb keyboard
[03:48] <tritium> harisund: /usr/share/sounds/gaim
[03:49] <IceTox> harisund, isn't this like more of a redhat format? Like in debian you only start it with "sshd"
[03:49] <VideoToaster> cafuego:  *EDT
[03:49] <harisund> That was awesome tritium (instantaneous reply, have I never got)
[03:49] <tritium> harisund: heh ;)
[03:49] <King-Of-No-Pants> tritium: King-Of-Pants is still blocked...
[03:49] <harisund> IceTox: No, sshd is just a "daemon" that runs in the background.
[03:49] <tritium> King-Of-No-Pants: from what?
[03:49] <harisund> IceTox the command I gave you is the Debian style. In Red Hat  you would have used something called "chkconfig"
[03:50] <King-Of-No-Pants> tritium: I can't send to channel
[03:50] <IceTox> oKtosiTe, thanks a lot harisund. You've been at great help :-) I'll just read some more at google.com/linux =)
[03:50] <IceTox> oo
[03:50] <cafuego> VideoToaster: evolution has a timezone setting, Edit > Preferences > Calendar & Tasks
[03:50] <IceTox> damn autonick-thingie :-)
[03:50] <harisund> IceTox; No problem. You can always come here. Just remember to be patient..
[03:50] <harisund> :D
[03:50] <tritium> harisund: for future reference, "dpkg -L gaim" would list the files in the gaim package
[03:50] <brasko> hi all, what package would be my best bet for using an HP printer attached to a windows machine from ubuntu?
[03:50] <VideoToaster> cafuego:  I tried setting that to nothing and to EST.  Same problem either way.
[03:51] <harisund> tritium: Yes, I did do that. But it didn't list the Gaim sounds.
[03:51] <cafuego> VideoToaster: Then i blame exchange ;-)
[03:51] <King-Of-No-Pants> tennessee: alright, we have nvidia-bug-report.sh, nvidia-glx-config, and nvidia-settings
[03:51] <ruxpin> how do I get .bashrc to be sourced at login?
[03:51] <harisund> tritium: You know what?
[03:51] <disasm> how do i make console beep with ubuntu? it does it by default on my debian computer, so I don't think it's too difficult
[03:51] <kingspawn> ruxpin: /etc/login.defs
[03:51] <King-Of-Pants> thank you
[03:51] <kingspawn> ruxpin: edit that one.
[03:51] <tritium> King-Of-No-Pants: that was Amaranth's, not mine ;)
[03:52] <Tennessee> King: Okay, I don't think you've install nvidia-xconfig after all.
[03:52] <Tennessee> tjl@tardis:~/gfe/tasClient/bin$ apt-cache search nvidia-xconfig
[03:52] <Tennessee> nvidia-xconfig - The NVIDIA X Configuration Tool
[03:52] <harisund> trititum: Gaim didn't install those sounds. That is why dpkg -L gaim didn't work. What installed those files was a package called gaim-data. I did "dpkg --search /usr/share/sounds/gaim" and it said gaim-data installed them. That is why I couldn't find it with dpkg -L gaim.
[03:52] <King-Of-No-Pants> tritium: ok
[03:52] <tritium> harisund: what?
[03:52] <Tennessee> You want to apt-get install that
[03:52] <VideoToaster> cafuego:  Evil Microsoft.  :D  Interestingly enough, I'm using Evolution because Outlook won't work at all at home due to the Exchange server being behind a firewall.  Evolution seems to work anyways... I think it's using OWA to get mail or something.
[03:52] <tritium> harisund: ah, you're right :)
[03:52] <harisund> tritium: Thanks anyway.
[03:52] <King-Of-Pants> tennessee: hmm?
[03:52] <bimberi> brasko: no additional package required - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter
[03:52] <cafuego> VideoToaster: Does exchange have an imap module so normal clients can access it?
[03:52] <harisund> I wouldn't have realized a package called gaim-data exists. (I did find out using dpkg --list | grep gaim) though
[03:52] <harisund> :D
[03:53] <ruxpin> kingspawn: I can't find an appropriate option...
[03:53] <Tennessee> King-Of-Pants: I think you need a quick lesson on apt. Apt stands for .... actually I forget. It's a thing that installs stuff.
[03:53] <Tennessee> You use apt-cache search to find available things to install.
[03:53] <tritium> advanced package tool
[03:53] <VideoToaster> cafuego:  Two other questions... It can't find my Global Address book.  Is there any way I can fix that?  Also, how can I get rid of the local folders?  I want Evolution to run completely off the server.  I already moved Drafts and Sent.
[03:53] <Tennessee> You use apt-get install to actually install the things.
[03:53] <King-Of-Pants> Tennessee: Im used to going into applications>install applications
[03:53] <Tennessee> You need a thing that's call nvidia-xconfig.
[03:53] <VideoToaster> cafuego:  No.  Only MAPI (behind the firewall) and Outlook Web.
[03:53] <kingspawn> ruxpin: for?
[03:54] <Tennessee> King-Of-Pants: Welcome to a new world of commandline joyfulness. You can use synaptic if you want.
[03:54] <cafuego> VideoToaster: afaik you can't remove local folders (just like in outlook)
[03:54] <kingspawn> ruxpin: /etc/login.defa
[03:54] <kingspawn> ruxpin: /etc/login.defs
[03:54] <ruxpin> kingspawn: having my ~/.bashrc sourced at login
[03:54] <King-Of-Pants> Tennessee: Alright, how do i get it?
[03:54] <Tennessee> Open up your terminal again, and type "apt-cache search nvidia"
[03:54] <ruxpin> kingspawn: I've defined it already in ~/.bash_profile, which works for other distros
[03:54] <cafuego> VideoToaster: As for address book, no idea... I haven;t used exchange in well over  decade <heh>
[03:54] <Tennessee> Behind the scenes, all those menus and GUIs for installing stuff are running apt. More or less.
[03:54] <King-Of-Pants> Tennessee: Alot just popped up
[03:54] <harisund> Ok imc_ and IceTox got to go !
[03:55] <Tennessee> King-Of-Pants: Okay, try "apt-get install nvidia-xconfig"
[03:55] <VideoToaster> cafuego:  Hmm... I asked about getting rid of Local Folders because I didn't have that in Outlook XP when using Exchange
[03:55] <_jason> ruxpin: ~/.gnomerc gets sourced when you log into gnome, profile only gets sourced for login shells
[03:55] <IceTox> have phun harisund :-)
[03:55] <VideoToaster> cafuego:  Can I change it so that new calendar stuff, addresses, etc. default to Exchange?
[03:55] <King-Of-Pants> Tennessee: I've gotten good with the sudo command
[03:55] <Tennessee> King-Of-Pants: Next time you need a new thing on your computer, try "apt-cache search thing". It's like google for stuff you can install.
[03:55] <cafuego> VideoToaster: No, outlook thinks exchange is local; but when outlook uses imap, it refuses to not use local folders.
[03:56] <Tennessee> King-Of-Pants: I break from convention and set up a root user to save all that typing. <ducks>
[03:56] <King-Of-Pants> Tennessee: E: Couldn't find package nvidia-xconfig
[03:56] <Jowi> hi all. I'm not using gnome. all apps have trouble connecting to dbus ("unable to determine the address..."). even dbus-monitor fail. dbus-daemon is running. any one got an idea of where to start troubleshooting?
[03:56] <brasko> bimberi: OK, it appears printing has just leaped forward 2000 years on Linux!
[03:56] <King-Of-Pants> Tennessee: THATS UNSECURE!
[03:56] <ruxpin> _jason: yeah, I'm using an ssh connection
[03:56] <King-Of-Pants> Tennessee: :)
[03:56] <Tennessee> King-Of-Pants: Really? Bugger! .... Hey, are you getting bored or do you want to do more cool stuff with apt?
[03:56] <brasko> bimberi: Thanks, never have done anything this fast before, ubuntu is the best!
[03:56] <VideoToaster> cafuego:  my personal address book, calendar, etc. all work in Evolution... I just want it to use them as the default instead of the local equivalent.
[03:56] <bimberi> brasko: :)
[03:56] <ruxpin> _jason: my PS1 isn't set :/
[03:57] <King-Of-Pants> Tennessee: Well, First I would like to install this nvidia driver
[03:57] <VideoToaster> cafuego:  Oh, I see... so Exchange becomes the "local" folders.
[03:57] <Tennessee> King-Of-Pants: Only insecure people are worried about being unsecure. :) It's just fine if you're not a weenie.
[03:57] <klaxian> anyone know why Beagle doesn't use extended attributes even though they are enabled?
[03:57] <King-Of-Pants> Tennessee: heehee
[03:57] <_jason> ruxpin: you define PS1 where? in .bashrc?
[03:57] <ruxpin> _jason: yes
[03:57] <Jowi> !dbus
[03:57] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Jowi
[03:57] <Tennessee> King-Of-Pants: You might need to slap apt around a bit before you'll be able to. You need to let it cast a wider net.
[03:57] <King-Of-Pants> Tennessee: It read some package lists, then build a dependency tree, then couldnt find package nvidia-xconfig
[03:57] <cafuego> VideoToaster: *nod*  Can you disable the local address book in evo, so it only has the other one to sue as default?
[03:57] <IceTox> Hey guys.. Do you happend to know about a functional apt-get command for a C compiler?
[03:58] <tritium> IceTox: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:58] <Tennessee> King-Of-Pants: Ubuntu ships with this tiny little package list. You need a bigger package. Er, package list. Want to make that happen?
[03:58] <VideoToaster> cafuego:  how would I do that?
[03:58] <cafuego> IceTox: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[03:58] <disasm> nm, my pc speaker was muted in alsamixer
[03:58] <King-Of-Pants> Tennessee: YEAH!
[03:58] <IceTox> thanks tritium and cafuego :-)
[03:58] <ruxpin> _jason: and I source .bashrc in ~/.bash_profile
[03:58] <Tennessee>  cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:58] <ruxpin> _jason: which is enough for gentoo,redhat,fedora,suse...
[03:58] <Tennessee> That's where apt goes to find stuff.
[03:58] <elad`> Anyone here has had experience using Jedit?
[03:59] <Tennessee> If you edit that file, you can uncomment a few useful additional sources of software and make them available
[03:59] <_jason> ruxpin: it works for me here, let me just mess with it a bit
[03:59] <disasm> it still doesn't work through screen though... wonder what needs done to make it work
[03:59] <cafuego> VideoToaster: Try in the prefs, 'Autcompletion' and "Calendar & Tasks'
[03:59] <King-Of-Pants> Tennessee: that just p'wnd my terminal window
[03:59] <tritium> !tell King-Of-Pants about repos
[03:59] <Tennessee> King-Of-Pants: Okay, it's an exciting file. Open it in a text editor like gedit or gvim.
[04:00] <mcrawfor> anyone know the name of that neat curses partitioning program ubuntu uses during install?
[04:00] <tritium> King-Of-Pants: check out the URL I had ubotu send you
[04:00] <harisund> People, I understand bug reporting is for talking about bugs, but where do I write in suggestions?
[04:00] <klaxian> no one uses beagle?
[04:01] <ruxpin> _jason: I've got to note that this works for root, but not my normal-user...
[04:01] <Tennessee> BRB ... 1 min
[04:01] <ruxpin> _jason: and I ssh into the box, not locally login
[04:01] <harisund> For example, while using tsclient to remote into a Windows machine, everything works properly, and when I log off the Windows machine, I am returned back to my Ubuntu desktop, with a big error message "Error in implementing pointer 0x7cc". Now that is something I don't need to know, right? Where can I give a suggestion saying that is not worth displaying?
[04:01] <stuzz78> hello...  i'm trying to make a local repo of xubuntu-desktop to burn on cd, and install on non-internet computer, but dpkg-scanpagkages keep say stuff about the override file even tho i use /dev/null (doing this from a 5.10 server install
[04:02] <harisund> imc_ are you still there?
[04:02] <_jason> ruxpin: yeah, definitely seems to work as long as you source bashrc in your .bash_profile
[04:03] <_jason> ruxpin: you've checked for any kind of syntax error?
[04:03] <IceTox> hum... I know "eject cdrom" works for opening the cdrom in terminal.. Now, what is the command to close it?
[04:03] <ssw2> i zapped pram still not working
[04:03] <harisund> IceTox: I really don't know if there is anything that can do that on any operating system at all?
[04:03] <luigi> I HAVE NO CLUE HOW TO USE LINUX... WILL SOMEONE LEAD ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION PLEASE
[04:04] <tritium> luigi: lose the all-caps please
[04:04] <luigi> sorry
[04:04] <tritium> thanks
[04:04] <_jason> luigi: what are you trying to do?
[04:04] <ruxpin> _jason: it works if I type . .bashrc
[04:04] <Tennessee> Back.
[04:04] <ruxpin> _jason: I'll double check
[04:04] <IceTox> harisund, I know it's possible :-) I though maybe mount /media/cdrom would work, but it didn't.. So now, I'm stuck here with an open cdrom in front of me, and I'm determited to close it by command! :-)
[04:04] <luigi> get my driver for my ati x600 graphic card
[04:04] <backz> is ubuntu a great distro for servers? I'll make a web/file server, I've trouble if I'll use debian or ubuntu.. suggestions ?
[04:04] <harisund> IceTox: haha.. All the best ! Do inform me if you find the commadn to do it. I would be very grateful.
[04:05] <ruxpin> _jason: my .bash_history is three lines, all source /this/and/that
[04:05] <IceTox> will do harisund.. :-) It's the one way to learn ;)
[04:05] <Tennessee> backz: It's a pretty good distro, but straight debian might be better.
[04:05] <ruxpin> _jason: sorry, meant .bash_profile
[04:05] <Tennessee> backz: You won't run into anything insoluble, IMHO.
[04:05] <VideoToaster> cafuego:  Well, I didn't find anything to disable it, but I did find that my contacts and calendar just stopped working.  :-P
[04:05] <harisund> backz: Depends on what you are looking for. I have a successful Ubuntu machine running File server, SSH server, telnet server, gnump3d music streaming server, VLC video streaming server, and samba server
[04:05] <_jason> ruxpin: set some dummy environment variable and see if bash_profile is actually getting sourced I guess
[04:05] <ruxpin> _jason: and the other things aren't sourced either, my aliases don't work
[04:05] <VideoToaster> cafuego:  When I open Contacts, it asks for my password.  When I enter it, it says something about not finding search term.
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[04:06] <Jowi> backz: well, one thing that ubuntu is good at is sane default configurations for different servers. most other distros i've tried need extensive tweaking.
[04:06] <VideoToaster> cafuego:  It just worked an hour ago!
[04:06] <harisund> Jowi: I agree with you on that.
[04:06] <ruxpin> _jason: if I type 'bash' they're sourced.. so it has got to do with ssh
[04:07] <harisund> ruxpin and _jason, Mind if I pitch in? (sorry if I am being rude..)
[04:07] <_tyler> default text editor for KDE.. what is it?
[04:07] <_jason> harisund: ho ahead, I don't know what's going on
[04:07] <_jason> go*
[04:07] <ruxpin> harisund: no problme
[04:07] <Denyerec> Anyone here run a dyn-dns client on Ubuntu as a daemon/service ?
[04:07] <harisund> Thanks guys .. what's up?
[04:07] <VideoToaster> cafuego:  Same thing for Calendar.  Any ideas?
[04:07] <Tennessee> brb again ... finding food.
[04:07] <backz> Tennessee, harisund: I've a server running samba/squid/ssh/apache2 with breezy (5.10) and I get some problems with some packages. Eg: iptables, samba, it appears to be 'bit unstable'
[04:07] <Jowi> Denyerec: i did, until i got a router that supported it :)
[04:07] <ruxpin> harisund: my .bash_profile isn't evaluated when I login via ssh
[04:08] <Denyerec> A hardware router  that supports dyndns? Neat...
[04:08] <Denyerec> Do you remember which client you ran ?
[04:08] <luigi> how did you guy learn how to use linux?
[04:08] <backz> harisund, must I use Xorg on a apache2/samba/squid server?
[04:08] <harisund> ruxpin: That is the problem with bash. There is a .bash_login, a .bashrc, a .bash_profile
[04:08] <Falstius> luigi, very painfully back when it was much more difficult.  You kids today have it easy.
[04:08] <Jowi> Denyerec: yeah, it's a basic netgear one. I used ddclient
[04:09] <harisund> backz: Nope, I don't have it running for apache2 and samba, but I don't know about squid though. I wouldn't expect it though.
[04:09] <Jowi> !info ddclient
[04:09] <ubotu> ddclient: (Update dynamic IP address at DynDNS.org), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 3.6.2-3ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 39 kB, Installed size: 244 kB
[04:09] <Denyerec> ddclient... yeah that says you can run it as a daemon...
[04:09] <Denyerec> but doesn't specify how to get it into the startup scripts :S
[04:09] <Denyerec> <-- not particularly good with Ubuntu
[04:09] <_jason> ruxpin: are you using ssh keys or your password?
[04:09] <harisund> ruxpin: I have a .bashrc and a .bash_profile, and everything works.
[04:09] <harisund> The .bash_profile sources the .bashrc.
[04:10] <harisund> And _jason, it works both using keys without passwords and through straight forward password authentication.
[04:10] <VideoToaster> cafuego:  "Unable to perform search.  This query did not complete successfully."
[04:10] <imc_> Hey, harisund, got a queston for you
[04:10] <harisund> imc_ I have one for you too. Anyway, go ahead.
[04:10] <ruxpin> _jason: passwords
[04:10] <luigi> where should i start with linux?
[04:10] <harisund> luigi: It depends on what you want to do .
[04:11] <imc_> I am getting a transfer rate of....Geez, 450B )not Kbps but B. The estinmated time of my transfer is a cozy 14 days. Anyting I could have done wrong?
[04:11] <ruxpin> harisund: the same bash conf works on other distros I mentioned, but not on that ubuntu box (I haven't set it up)
[04:11] <Denyerec> luigi without a task to complete, learning anything is tiresome.
[04:11] <_jason> ruxpin: me too, so that couldn't be why
[04:11] <harisund> luigi: I setup Linux for my mom, and she uses it just like she used her Windows machine, and doesn't know a single difference between the two.
[04:11] <harisund> imc_ That's real bad.
[04:11] <Jowi> Denyerec: it was quite a while ago (read a year or more) since i used it. i don't really remember how. maybe this will point you in the right direction: http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-689.html
[04:11] <ruxpin> harisund: that makes me wonder if there's something specifically odd with ubuntu
[04:11] <Denyerec> Rock on Jowi, many thanks.
[04:11] <imc_> Mmmm
[04:11] <harisund> imc_ I really am not sure .. maybe there is something else hogging the connection?
[04:12] <luigi> i want to learn how open files and install them by useing the terminal
[04:12] <harisund> imc_ Just check what other open ports are on yourmachine using the "sudo netstat -plant" command.
[04:12] <backz> Tennessee, then, do you prefer debian on servers than ubuntu? In my case, it will be a intranet-server-machine. With RAID on mobo (two HD's), mysql database, apache2, squid, iptables, sshd...
[04:12] <harisund> ruxpin: I don't know. What did you say your configuration was?
[04:12] <harisund> ruxpin: What are the files you are using?
[04:12] <imc_> harisund, which machine the server or client
[04:12] <ruxpin> harisund: .bashrc and .bash_profile
[04:12] <harisund> imc_ I would look in both. But I am really sorry, I don't think I can be of much help here.
[04:13] <luigi> i want to learn how open files and install them by useing the terminal
[04:13] <Hexidigital> has anyone used the QEMU program (for emulating operating systems)?
[04:13] <harisund> ruxpin: That's the same two that I have. What command / commands are not working?
[04:13] <imc_> No worries but thanks so much!
[04:13] <ruxpin> harisund: and .bash_profile has just source /etc/profile; source /etc/aliasrc; source ~/.bashrc on three lines of course
[04:13] <harisund> imc_ A quick question.
[04:13] <imc_> yes?
[04:13] <harisund> imc_ You are using GAim, right?
[04:13] <imc_> Yes
[04:13] <Tennessee> Backz: I don't have a huge experience with debian, but as I understand it, it's (a) older, and (b) has more control over the boot process.
[04:13] <ruxpin> harisund: seems they're not evaluated at ssh logon for my normal user (for root they work ok)
[04:14] <Tennessee> Backz: I find the boot process in debian to be more sensible. But as for the stability of particular packages, I'm not so sure which is better
[04:14] <harisund> imc_ Do you know a way to prevent Gaim IRC to prevent displaying the messages "<> has joined the room" and "<> has left the room"
[04:14] <Tennessee> wb King
[04:14] <ruxpin> harisund: well actually root doesn't even have .bash_profile :o
[04:14] <harisund> ruxpin: I am thinking the fact that /etc/profile is being source could be a problem.
[04:14] <imc_> Wow.....No I'm sorry, harisund, I don
[04:14] <imc_> t
[04:14] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: that was the strangest thing ever
[04:14] <mcf501> Does anyone have problems with GNOME-Mud crashing in Dapper?
[04:14] <harisund> imc_ yeah.. that's fine. no problem.
[04:14] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: my linux crashed again
[04:14] <MrRio> how do i get colours in vim?
[04:14] <Tennessee> King: Bummer. What kind of crash?
[04:14] <Hexidigital> harisund, i dont think you can disable those messages in gaim for ICR
[04:14] <Hexidigital> IRC
[04:15] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: but at the same time my linux crashed, my windows got kicked off IRC
[04:15] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: my power started going all funky
[04:15] <harisund> Hexidigital: I was afraid of that. Maybe we need to right it on our own, eh?
[04:15] <stuzz78> can anyone help? when i do: dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -9c > Packages.gz it says "Packages in archive but missing from override file"  I thought dev/null took the override file out of the equation
[04:15] <Tennessee> King: Probably a problem with the mains electricity. I doubt linux did that. :)
[04:15] <Hexidigital> harisund, perhaps... or send a option request to the gaim developers
[04:15] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: maybe, but it was odd
[04:15] <ruxpin> harisund: removed that.. didn't help
[04:15] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: I am now running the memtest86+
[04:16] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: 'cause I don't think it was my video card
[04:16] <harisund> ruxpin: hang on..
[04:16] <imc_> Anyway thanks so much for the help!
[04:17] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: If you didn't hear about my problems before we started talking X, then you have alot of catching up to do
[04:17] <stuzz78> how do you count the number of files in  a directory?
[04:17] <harisund> ruxpin: My .bash_profile merely has ". ~/.bashrc"
[04:17] <harisund> ruxpin: You know that the "." command does the same thing as the source command does, right?
[04:17] <Tennessee> King: I wasn't in the channel before then...
[04:17] <mcf501> !Mud
[04:17] <ubotu> mcf501: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:17] <mcf501> !gnome-mud
[04:17] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mcf501
[04:17] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: yeah, my big problem is that my linux keeps crashing
[04:18] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: so far I have replaced the cmos battery and the video card
[04:18] <Tennessee> King: Do you know about /var/log/messages?
[04:18] <harisund> ruxpin: I am thinking you can put everything you want in .bashrc, and then have the single line ". ~/.bashrc" in your .bash_profile file.
[04:18] <ruxpin> harisund: I know that
[04:18] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: not really
[04:18] <patrick24601> ARe there any good references for running Ubuntu on  a tablet pc?
[04:19] <Tennessee> King: I don't really either, but I know it exists. In fact, there are a bunch of files in /var/log which log various subsystems. If you have a crash and linux can detect it, it might be logged in theree.
[04:19] <harisund> ruxpin: What does your .bashrc have? It has everything you want, right?
[04:19] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: neato
[04:19] <_jason> ruxpin: I'd be curious to see if you make a brand new dummy user and have a simple bash_profile sourcing .bashrc and changing just your PS1 to see if it works
[04:19] <aboo> hi
[04:20] <_jason> I wish I could write english
[04:20] <_jason> aboo: hello
[04:20] <ruxpin> harisund: just two lines:
[04:20] <ruxpin> source /etc/aliasrc
[04:20] <ruxpin> PS1="\[\033[01;32m\] \u\[\e[37;1m\] @\[\033\] \h \[\033[01;34m\] \w # \[\033\] "
[04:20] <King-Of-No-Pants> Tennessee: I have had different kinds of crashes. One random reboot, a ton of straight into console mode without warning, and a few lock ups
[04:20] <aboo> can i write chinese ? hehe
[04:20] <_jason> !zh
[04:20] <ubotu> For support in Chinese, please try the channel #ubuntu-zh.
[04:20] <harisund> ruxpin: And when you login you are not getting a changed prompt, si that what the problem is?
[04:20] <ruxpin> _jason: I'll try that
[04:20] <linuxgeekery> King-Of-No-Pants, random reboot? That could be a hardware problem
[04:21] <ruxpin> harisund: yes, I'll get the plain black-and-white prompt, and no aliases
[04:21] <aboo> ubotu, thanks!hehe
[04:21] <ubotu> graag gedaan, aboo
[04:21] <King-Of-No-Pants> linuxgeekery: i am running memtest86
[04:21] <linuxgeekery> King-Of-No-Pants, oh!
[04:21] <richard_> hello all
[04:21] <harisund> ruxpin: I would suggest you put that PS1 line inside ~/.bashrc, and then in ~/.bash_profile, have a line that looks like ". ~/.bashrc"
[04:21] <harisund> That is how I have it.
[04:21] <King-Of-No-Pants> linuxgeekery: And I am reluctant to replace the PSU, since the fan from it is the only thing cooling the processor
[04:22] <linuxgeekery> King-Of-No-Pants, get another fan! :P
[04:22] <_jason> harisund: thing is, it works fine when he types 'bash'
[04:22] <King-Of-No-Pants> linuxgeekery: no place to put it in this case
[04:22] <linuxgeekery> King-Of-No-Pants, oh...
[04:22] <King-Of-No-Pants> linuxgeekery: Its a PII
[04:22] <VideoToaster> cafuego:  Fixed calendar/contacts/etc... it was because I had it set to use a secure password instead of plain text.  :-P
[04:22] <linuxgeekery> King-Of-No-Pants, ah! I thought it was a more recent one... :P
[04:22] <harisund> _jason: I don't know much, but there are two types of shells. When you type in bash, one type gets started. When you log in through SSH, another type gets started.
[04:22] <ruxpin> harisund: this conf works for my newly created testuser!
[04:22] <jsestri2> is there a script that gets run when a user logs in, while in gnome?
[04:23] <harisund> ruxpin: Which conf? Your old conf? The one that doesn't work for you?
[04:23] <VideoToaster> Is it possible to set a default message sort order in Evolution?
[04:23] <ruxpin> harisund: yes...
[04:23] <_jason> harisund: ah good points, when you type bash it's not a login shell I believe
[04:23] <KingOfNoPants> Jeez!
[04:23] <_jason> ruxpin: see if it works with 'bash --login' ?
[04:24] <KingOfNoPants> linuxgeekery: Slot 1 Baby!
[04:24] <ruxpin> harisund: but if I copy those two files for my own user, now they don't work *sigh*
[04:24] <Falstius> ruxpin: _jason: trying bash -lv might help, -v makes it list the contents of the scripts it reads .. make sure to have a LONG scroll buffer though.
[04:24] <ruxpin> _jason: it's fine then
[04:24] <KingOfNoPants> linuxgeekery: If I put in this other PSU, there will be nothing blowing over the processor
[04:24] <harisund> _jason yeah, there is something called an interactive shell and non interactive shell too. Don't know much about that.
[04:24] <KingOfNoPants> linuxgeekery: and PIIs only have heatsinks
[04:24] <linuxgeekery> King-Of-No-Pants: Really?
[04:24] <harisund> ruxpin: As much as I hate to say that, looks like I am stumped too.
[04:24] <ruxpin> harisund, _jason: the problem is with ssh. my new user doesn't eval .bashrc though ssh login :/
[04:24] <KingOfNoPants> Tennessee: I can't catch a break
[04:25] <KingOfNoPants> linuxgeekery: really
[04:25] <harisund> ruxpin:
[04:25] <harisund> I don't think it does.
[04:25] <Tennessee> King: Hard to fix hardware problems. Tough to diagnose.
[04:25] <harisund> That is why you need it to evaluate by calling ". ~/.bashrc" in your ~/.bash_profile. Can you just try that one last time?
[04:25] <KingOfNoPants> linuxgeekery: they can be fun, and terrifying
[04:25] <harisund> ruxpin: Just have ". ~/.bashrc" in your .bash_profile, and have the pS1 line in your ~/.bashrc file.
[04:25] <ruxpin> harisund: I've got that line in there..
[04:26] <KingOfNoPants> well, im 30% completed with my memtest
[04:26] <Falstius> ruxpin: I haven't been paying attention, but are you sure your login shell is bash?
[04:26] <harisund> ruxpin: Then I am clueless :( bad
[04:26] <ruxpin> harisund: that's exatcly what I've had all the time..
[04:26] <ruxpin> Falstius: for ssh, let me check that
[04:26] <harisund> Aha, excellent point Falstius.
[04:26] <Tennessee> King: A friend of mine once hacked a hole in the side of his case and installed a huge mofo fan. Cooled the thing right down...
[04:26] <KingOfNoPants> Tennessee: A friend of mine did that, too
[04:27] <KingOfNoPants> Tennessee: I'll just have to see if there is a Fan power prong on the mobo
[04:27] <ruxpin> Falstius: /etc/ssh/sshd_config doesn't define a shell
[04:27] <KingOfNoPants> Tennessee: And then I'll have to hack a hole into the case, which will be hard because im not handy in any way
[04:27] <Falstius> ruxpin: no it won't, and it should use whatever is in /etc/passwd
[04:28] <_jason> ruxpin: echo $SHELL
[04:28] <Tennessee> King: Maybe get a new case? Or if it's old, just run it nude?
[04:28] <Falstius> _jason: never trust the $SHELL variable ...
[04:28] <CNAP> falstius: what are the other shells that we can run?
[04:28] <ruxpin> _jason: Falstius: ahh, SHELL=/bin/sh
[04:28] <_jason> Falstius: is there a better way?
[04:28] <KingOfNoPants_> My connection keeps resetting itself
[04:29] <_jason> Falstius: nice catch
[04:29] <ruxpin> _jason: Falstius: that solved it :D
[04:29] <KingOfNoPants_> anyone in here know alot about irc?
[04:29] <ruxpin> _jason: Falstius: I defined the shell in /etc/passwd
[04:29] <KingOfNoPants_> or in some position of power in it?
[04:30] <Falstius> _jason: ps will tell you your current shell ..
[04:30] <Falstius> I've seen too many login scripts to redefine SHELL for compatibility (like tcsh claiming to be csh)
[04:30] <ruxpin> _jason, Falstius, harisund: many thanks to you :)
[04:30] <harisund> ruxpin: Learnt something new today, didn't we?
[04:30] <harisund> :D
[04:30] <jsestri2> what is there a way to run a script when a user logs into gnome?
[04:31] <_jason> jsestri2: ~/.gnomerc
[04:31] <jsestri2> _jason: sweet thanks
[04:31] <stuzz78> can anyone help me with dpkg-scanpackages?
[04:32] <hikenboot> would ubuntu make a good distribution for basing pxes thin clients from ...other recommendations ?
[04:32] <DrBanzai> How would I go about uninstalling amorok, so I can reinstall it fresh?  I think mine is all messed up
[04:32] <Denyerec> Jowi...
[04:32] <Denyerec> care if I pick your brain just a little more?
[04:33] <Jowi> yeah Denyerec. pick away
[04:33] <stuzz78> DrBanzai:  can you not apt-get remove amorok?
[04:33] <DrBanzai> stuzz78, I'm not sure that I installed it using apt-get...but I haven't really tried yet...
[04:34] <chad> hows it going everyone
[04:34] <stuzz78> DrBanzai: do you have to install something with apt-get to remove it with apt-get?
[04:35] <batman> can someone tell me what program i need to burn off mdf/mds files?
[04:35] <DrBanzai> stuzz78, I don't know, but apt-get remove worked.  Thanks...
[04:36] <francolq> anyone could install wine on AMD64 (ubuntu breezy)?
[04:36] <chad> could someone help me figure out how to get UT2004 running? I believe I have it installed.
[04:36] <stuzz78> DrBanzai: np...  glad i could help...  now, does anyone know aboud dpkg-scanpackages?
[04:36] <pip> francolq, how do you find Bochs?
[04:37] <francolq> pip: sorry, i dont know what is Bochs...
[04:37] <Falstius> francolq: I did but I did it in a 32bit changeroot environment.
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[04:38] <_jason> !ops
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[04:38] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[04:38] <mlowe> stuzz78, what about scanpackages
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[04:38] <stuzz78> i'm trying to do the HOWTO: Custom repo in ubuntuforums, and get stuck at step 4
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[04:39] <nalioth> you ops can unban them
[04:39] <nalioth> they are being k-lined as we speak
[04:39] <Hobbsee> nalioth: oh goody
[04:39] <Tennessee> Wahooo.
[04:40] <lilo> nalioth: +R would probably be better
[04:40] <cafuego> Oh poo, I missed all the fun!
[04:40] <Madpilot> fun on #ubuntu... :P
[04:40] <nalioth> lilo: it is +R
[04:40] <NullVector> Hello all
[04:40] <nalioth> lilo: our forwarding abilty has been locked out by more senior operators
[04:41] <NullVector> could someone help me out, New to Linux, and attempting to get Ut2004 running. I believe I was able to get it successfully installed.
[04:43] <NullVector> can anyone read this?
[04:43] <Hobbsee> NullVector: yes
[04:43] <NullVector> ty
[04:44] <NullVector> would I be right in assuming that SH files are equivalent to exe files?
[04:44] <ajmitch> hello Hobbsee
[04:45] <nalioth> NullVector: sort of and not quite
[04:45] <Nafai> NullVector: If you are familiar with windows/dos, .sh files are a lot like .bat files
[04:45] <nalioth> NullVector: sh files are more likened to .bat files
[04:45] <NullVector> TY Nafai
[04:46] <NullVector> so what type of file would I use to luanch a game?
[04:47] <NullVector> bin?
[04:49] <WoC> NullVector, if you installed it, it should have installed a startup script for it, try ut<tab> for possible names of the startup script
[04:50] <NullVector> ty
[04:50] <WoC> np
[04:50] <WoC> found it?
[04:53] <WoC> Busy Playing, I reckon
[04:53] <jkeyes0> good for him. always good to see someone happy with linux
[04:53] <WoC> Aye ;] 
[04:54] <hikenboot> anyone in here have experience runnig pxes under ubunto or other distro?
[04:54] <jkeyes0> since we're here... any idea how ubuntu fares as a firewall? I've got IPCop and I'm sure it will meet my needs... I just prefer Ubuntu.
[04:54] <NullVector> WoC: where would I do this UT<tab> slightly confused?
[04:54] <WoC> oh
[04:54] <jkeyes0> oh, in a terminal window
[04:56] <Trixy> hey guys, I'm new to ununtu and I have a small problem. When I play fullscreen video with VLC or TVtime or anything like that, I have horizontal noise in the image that gets more noticeable the larger I make the window (it's very noticeable in fullscreen mode, and fairly noticeable in a maximized window). What causes that and how can I fix it? This is pretty much a straight install with vlc added
[04:57] <WoC> I don't remember the name of the startup script, haven't had it installed since it came out... but I chances are it would be named something like ut* so if you are using bash, using ut<tab> will show all commands starting with ut
[04:57] <jkeyes0> @Trixy: what sort of video card do you have?
[04:57] <Trixy> nvidia geforce 6800gt
[04:57] <antarus> nalioth: nothing lately?
[04:57] <NullVector> WoC: so from terminal type "bash Ut"
[04:58] <slavik> WoC: installing ut2k4?
[04:58] <jkeyes0> Trixy: did you install updated nvidia drivers?
[04:58] <WoC> slavik, NullVector is trying to run it, not me
[04:58] <Trixy> there are updated drivers? linux is not the same as it was five years ago
[04:58] <Trixy> no I haven't
[04:58] <imc_> Hey, trying to get my USB hard drive to mount - no soap. ANy suggestions?
[04:58] <slavik> oh
[04:58] <slavik> ok
[04:58] <slavik> NullVector: whatcha trying to do?
[04:58] <jkeyes0> :) let me look at the ubuntuforums site to find you a link on installing the newest drivers.
[04:58] <NullVector> Slavik, I am, well, trying to run it, I assume I have it installed properly
[04:58] <francolq_> Flastius: remember me? had a mess with IRC...
[04:58] <imc_> It's basically a little notebook harddrive in a usb mounted case
[04:59] <francolq_> Falstius: remember me? had a mess with IRC...
[04:59] <imc_> The little lights are on, but It wont show up in df
[04:59] <francolq_> Falstius: I've heard about the 32bit environment... it could help me with a lot of problems... is there any wiki that explains how to do that?
[04:59] <Trixy> thanks jkeyes
[05:00] <slavik> NullVector: what dir did you install it in?
[05:00] <NullVector> Home/games/ut2004
[05:00] <jkeyes0> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:00] <King-of-no-pants> bout time I got back in
[05:01] <blindx> I need some help with fonts.....
[05:03] <blindx> nevermind, figured it out
[05:03] <King-of-no-pants> cool
[05:03] <cycom> hey, anyone else having smeg complian that there is no module named MenuHandler?
[05:04] <NullVector> Slavik: home/games/ut2004, don't know if you saw me post it the first time
[05:04] <King-of-no-pants> anyone know how long a memtest should take to run?
[05:04] <Jahooty> anyone know how to find out the length of time left on an ip adress lease?
[05:04] <King-of-no-pants> linux or windows?
[05:04] <Jahooty> me?
[05:04] <King-of-no-pants> yeah
[05:04] <Jahooty> linux
[05:04] <Jahooty> but i'm behind a netgear nat wireless router
[05:05] <King-of-no-pants> can't help you there... lol, Im new at this linux thing.  Expert with the windows.
[05:05] <Jahooty> how would i do it in windows?
[05:05] <King-of-no-pants> maybe ifconfig
[05:05] <NullVector> ipconfig /all
[05:05] <NullVector> that will give you the ip dhcp release date
[05:05] <Jahooty> ahh
[05:05] <Jahooty> ok, but how do i find out how much longer my router has it's WAN ip for?
[05:06] <Jahooty> i don't care about my ip on the network
[05:06] <NullVector> if you want to release and renew the commands are ipconfig /release
[05:06] <NullVector> and ipconfig /renew
[05:06] <Apostle^> Jahooty: whats the isp ?
[05:06] <Jahooty> sbc/yahoo
[05:06] <Apostle^> is it pppoe ?
[05:06] <slavik> NullVector: try ut2004 in terminal
[05:06] <Jahooty> what i want to do is make a python or bash script to sent a message over say yahoo messenger with my ip adress for an ftp server
[05:07] <cycom> nano /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases
[05:07] <Jahooty> but i want it to know when to check again
[05:07] <cycom> Jahooty: that'll tell you the ip lease
[05:07] <jkeyes0> you could use a service like dyndns.org?
[05:07] <NullVector> Slavik: I am new to linux here, is there anything else I need to type in the terminal? If not, it says command not found
[05:07] <Apostle^> Jahooty: why don't you make a no-ip account
[05:07] <cycom> Jahooty: what jkeyes0 .  that's what I do.
[05:07] <Jahooty> what's a no-ip account?
[05:07] <Apostle^> Jahooty: it will update your ip to a name like Jahooty.no-ip.or
[05:07] <Apostle^> g
[05:07] <Apostle^> and it will always be the same
[05:07] <cycom> Jahooty: free, and it gives you a net address and a client to automatically update so your name will always point to your correct IP
[05:08] <Hobbsee> cycom: now that sounds cool
[05:08] <slavik> hmm
[05:08] <cycom> Hobbsee: hrm?
[05:08] <Jahooty> is nano ubuntu specific?
[05:08] <slavik> NullVector: go to the dir and into System
[05:08] <Hobbsee> cycom: the no-ip thing
[05:08] <slavik> and fire up the sh script automatically
[05:08] <cycom> Jahooty: nah. it's a command line editor for a lot of linux distros
[05:08] <PwcrLinux> yea, I use dyndns domain for my videophone..
[05:08] <slavik> it is named ut2004.sh I think
[05:08] <jkeyes0> Jahooty: http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/
[05:08] <NullVector> which sh script?
[05:08] <cycom> Hobbsee: never done that before? I've got dyndns for my addy.
[05:08] <Jahooty> ahh, so use whatever editor?
[05:08] <slavik> I deleted ut2k4 from my laptop, so can't say what it is
[05:08] <cycom> Jahooty: exactly
[05:08] <Hobbsee> cycom: no i havent...
[05:09] <cycom> Hobbsee: I had that set up in highschool so I could ssh home from a school machine all the time and chat on IRC.
[05:09] <NullVector> Slavik: there are no SH scripts in the system dir of UT2004, there is one in the main dir, when I attempted to fire that up directly nothing happens.
[05:09] <Jahooty> that wont work
[05:09] <cycom> Now after a year off and two semesters in college, I use it so I can open an ssh tunnel and VNC into the machine
[05:09] <Hobbsee> cycom: hehe nice
[05:09] <cycom> Jahooty: you may need to sudo.
[05:09] <Jahooty> i need to know my internet IP
[05:09] <Jahooty> not my LAN ip
[05:10] <NullVector> Slavik: if I run it from a terminal I get this /ut2004-bin: error while loading shared libraries: ./libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:10] <cycom> Jahooty: it'll automatically update with your internet IP
[05:10] <Jahooty> ok
[05:10] <slavik> ahh
[05:10] <Falstius> cycom: why vnc?
[05:10] <slavik> install libSDL then
[05:10] <Jahooty> that file is empty
[05:10] <cycom> Falstius: because I don't have to do any funky stuff.  Just turn on remote desktop in gnome.
[05:10] <NullVector> assuming I can get that with apt?
[05:11] <cycom> Jahooty: I dunno then.  I'd do the dyndns thing.  It's free, and easy to configure.  Really nice.
[05:11] <Apostle^> yea i use the no-ip one.
[05:11] <Apostle^> only had to mess with it once to install, it works and you never see it:-P
[05:11] <cycom> Falstius: I'm not too worried about people sniffing my connection since I've got that nice ssh tunnel going on.
[05:11] <PwcrLinux> if you have router box and you can add the dyndns services to make auto update IP that will not get expired..  without a router, you have to update manually on dyndns website
[05:12] <cycom> PwcrLinux: incorrect.  there are clients for linux that will auto-update.
[05:12] <Apostle^> PwcrLinux: not true.. you can just use the linux client
[05:12] <cycom> Apostle^: :)
[05:12] <Apostle^> cycom: :-P
[05:12] <PwcrLinux> cycom: Apostle^ no, according to router manual online
[05:12] <Apostle^> well it's wrong .
[05:13] <Falstius> cycom: I'm not critcizing, just curious if you had a special reason.
[05:13] <cycom> PwcrLinux: yeah, you should always trust strangers on IRC over the written docs ;)
[05:13] <Apostle^> haha
[05:13] <cycom> Falstius: Nope! Just goin with what works :)
[05:13] <bliss1_> hi
[05:14] <NullVector> where and how do I install libsdl1.2-dev
[05:14] <jadaz87> !fakeroot
[05:14] <ubotu> jadaz87: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:14] <PwcrLinux> Apostle^: you'll find out, I have only knew how..
[05:14] <Apostle^> ?
[05:14] <cycom> Falstius: Plus I can spawn a vnc server that'll have a nice resolution to fit on my laptop screen.
[05:14] <Apostle^> PwcrLinux: what ?
[05:14] <PwcrLinux> Apostle^: learn
[05:14] <Apostle^> PwcrLinux: what are you talking about
[05:15] <IceTox> If I wanna open a .txt document in graphics, but wanna do it using terminal.. How do I do that?
[05:15] <Falstius> cycom: I just find it too slow from my home machine.  I tend to use screen.
[05:15] <King-of-no-pants> how long should a memtest run?
[05:15] <Apostle^> King-of-no-pants: hours i think
[05:15] <cycom> Falstius: that's what I do for IRC and stuff, but for azureus I want VNC
[05:15] <King-of-no-pants> eek!
[05:15] <bliss1_> what is the difference between doing rm -rf  tools.3.0.1 and doing gksudo natalius going into that directory and highlight and hit delete botton
[05:15] <King-of-no-pants> I'll have to leave it on overnight
[05:16] <DBO> bliss1_, doing it with nautilus sends it to the trash can
[05:16] <_jason> bliss1_: nautilus will put it in ~/.Trash
[05:16] <NullVector> I need to install libsdl1.2-dev, can someone lend a hand?
[05:16] <cycom> Falstius: what kind of connection do you have?
[05:16] <Apostle^> NullVector: sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev
[05:16] <NullVector> sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev
[05:16] <PwcrLinux> Apostle^: well, you learn to how to put the dns services on those routers.. I've experince all done..
[05:17] <Apostle^> PwcrLinux: do you speak english ?
[05:17] <Apostle^> we already told you it's not necessary
[05:17] <NullVector> might help if I put it in the terminal
[05:17] <Apostle^> NullVector: it might ;-p
[05:17] <alex_> hey i installed ubuntu and
[05:17] <Falstius> cycom: cable broadcam .. actually I haven't tried it to my apartment, but my parents have a 10mb/s up limit so when I'm admining their machine its kind of painful to use vnc.
[05:17] <alex_> it says my repositories are broken
[05:17] <francolq_> Falstius: sorry if i bother too much: can you tell me a couple of tips for installing 32 bit wine in my AMD64 ubuntu?
[05:17] <PwcrLinux> Apostle^: yep and you didn't tell me "not necessary"..
[05:17] <panoramix> qualcuno mi puo aiutare?
[05:17] <cycom> Falstius: 10mbit /s?
[05:18] <_jason> !es
[05:18] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:18] <nickrud> !it
[05:18] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:18] <Falstius> cycom: sorry, 10 kbit/s :)
[05:18] <_jason> oh I need to learn my italian
[05:18] <cycom> Falstius: I was about to soil myself :)
[05:18] <rcastro> HI!!!!
[05:18] <_jason> alex_: what says they are broken?
[05:18] <bliss1_> DBO/ _jason thanks
[05:18] <NullVector> Apostle: after installing that, do I need to log out and back in? or am I good to go?
[05:18] <panoramix> ci sono canali italiani?
[05:19] <nickrud> panoramix, #ubuntu-it
[05:19] <ssw2> ok i have a blue and white apple g3 and when i try to boot the ubuntu 5.10 ppc cd I get this error    PCI@80000000/PCI-BRIDGE@D/MAC-IO@5/ATA-3@20000/DISK@0:2,YABOOT.CONF:Unknown or corrupt filesystem
[05:19] <panoramix> grazie nick
[05:19] <ssw2> then it gives me a boot prompt
[05:19] <Falstius> francolq_: you really want to install a 32bit version of wine .. either by compiling it yourself in 32bit mode or running the version from the winehq in a 32bit change environment.  You can google for how to set up a 32bit environment.
[05:19] <ssw2> I have apple cd drive
[05:20] <Emsko> you're trying to install linux on a mac?
[05:20] <ssw2> yes
[05:20] <alex_> _jason i re-installed ubuntu
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[05:20] <Madpilot> idiots...
[05:20] <Apostle^> ...
[05:21] <Hobbsee> darn, i cant spell
[05:21] <cycom> Falstius: damn.
[05:21] <nickrud> bummer
[05:21] <_jason> alex_: what does 'sudo aptitude update' do in a terminal?
[05:21] <Jahooty> what the hell is wrong with people?
[05:21] <PwcrLinux> oh boy
[05:21] <cycom> er.. make that everyone.  Sorry Falstius
[05:21] <Apostle^> owned with /clear
[05:21] <Apostle^> haha
[05:21] <Falstius> cycom: this time I'm innocent! ;)
[05:21] <cycom> Jahooty: too much free time and not enough beatings.
[05:21] <nickrud> cycom, +1
[05:21] <cycom> hrm?
[05:22] <_jason> alex_: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ to give us the output
[05:22] <nickrud> not enough beatings (or sense)
[05:22] <NullVector> Still no go for ut for me, Will try again tomorrow.
[05:22] <cycom> nickrud: heh.
[05:24] <Apostle^> hm.
[05:25] <Apostle^> i wonder why people just don't write bots that register
[05:25] <nickrud> Apostle^, you should never repeat that in public
[05:25] <cycom> Apostle^: because they're not very bright to begin with?
[05:25] <Apostle^> nickrud: sorry lol.
[05:25] <ssw2> ok
[05:25] <ssw2> should i repost my original message
[05:26] <nickrud> ssw2, yes, it scrolled away
[05:26] <ssw2> ok i have a blue and white apple g3 and when i try to boot the ubuntu 5.10 ppc cd I get this error    PCI@80000000/PCI-BRIDGE@D/MAC-IO@5/ATA-3@20000/DISK@0:2,YABOOT.CONF:Unknown or corrupt filesystem
[05:26] <nickrud> ssw2, oh, that one :) I don't have a mac
[05:26] <ssw2> help anybody
[05:27] <spolcyd> hello: I cannot boot into the first stage install....It freezes on the HW detection part. A few months I was given a boot-time option to pass and it fixed it. But I have forgetten it..Does anyone know. This is a AMD 64Bit system.
[05:27] <ssw2> ?
[05:27] <nickrud> ssw2, I'd suggest as a first step verifying the iso. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto . It's not a certain fix, but it's a start
[05:27] <ssw2> Its a cd that i got sent to me for free
[05:28] <jkeyes0> spolcyd: could it be noacpi?
[05:28] <PwcrLinux> gn all :)
[05:28] <gr33npho3nix> anybody done xgl on intel i810
[05:28] <ssw2> well "cd's"
[05:28] <cycom> PwcrLinux: l8rs!
[05:28] <nickrud> ssw2, there has been some talk here about bad shipits, I'd check.
[05:28] <spolcyd> jkeyes0, possibly. How do i pass it?
[05:28] <phewl> how do i unzip a .bz2 file ?
[05:28] <ssw2> Well, 6 cds doing the same thing
[05:28] <ssw2> hmm
[05:28] <spolcyd> jkeyes0,  ie noapci off?
[05:28] <_jason> !tar.bz2
[05:28] <ubotu> rumour has it, tar.bz2 is a compressed archive similar to a zip file.  tar jxvf filename.tar.bz2 to extract.
[05:28] <Falstius> phewl: bunzip2
[05:28] <jadaz87> !set mode +R
[05:28] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jadaz87
[05:28] <jadaz87> :-(
[05:28] <nickrud> phewl, bunzip2 <file>
[05:28] <jadaz87> does anyone here know how to customize dapper live cd's please say yes
[05:28] <gr33npho3nix> its erroring out loading glcore
[05:29] <nalioth> jadaz87: may i help you with something?
[05:29] <jadaz87> nalioth lilo said to set myself as mode +R
[05:29] <ssw2> any solutions
[05:29] <nickrud> jadaz87, thats 'only alow registered users', it's an op command
[05:29] <nalioth> jadaz87: +R is a channel mode
[05:30] <jadaz87> nalioth oh i am terribly sorry i did not know that :-(
[05:30] <btaylor5619> Can someone help me with an issue I am having with Ubuntu?
[05:30] <spolcyd> jkeyes0, how do i pass the boot option>?
[05:30] <nickrud> btaylor5619, it's possible, what's the issue?
[05:30] <ssw2> errrr
[05:30] <jadaz87> nalioth do you know how to customize dapper live cd's or know anyone i could ask them about?
[05:31] <btaylor5619> nicrud, I am trying to find a program that will convert a RPM file to a DEB file.  Do you know of any such program?
[05:31] <nickrud> ssw2, ask about every 10 minutes, people come and go, and so does the specific knowledge
[05:31] <nalioth> jadaz87: i do.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo
[05:31] <jkeyes0> spolcyd: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120632 here it says to pass noapic and nolapic, so when it says boot:, you would type "linux noapic nolapic" (someone please correct me if I'm wrong)
[05:31] <nickrud> btaylor5619, alien. But, its probable that there's a deb for what you want. What are you trying to install?
[05:31] <btaylor5619> nickrud, "LimeWire."
[05:32] <nickrud> !limewire
[05:32] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[05:32] <nickrud> !rostwire
[05:32] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nickrud
[05:32] <nickrud> !frostwire
[05:32] <jadaz87> nalioth that is for breezy not dapper :-(
[05:32] <nalioth> jadaz87: the principle is the same, my friend
[05:32] <nickrud> arg.
[05:32] <nickrud> !tell btaylor5619 about frostwire
[05:32] <cycom> jadaz87: expand on existing materials!
[05:32] <Jahooty> is it a bad idea to run vsftpd as root?
[05:32] <nickrud> btaylor5619, did you follow those messages?
[05:33] <jkeyes0> spolcyd: you can also try "linux noacpi acpi=off"
[05:33] <nickrud> btaylor5619, more specifically, you don't want the rpm version of limewire.
[05:33] <btaylor5619> One moment, nickrud.  I am evaluating the solution.
[05:33] <cycom> spolcyd: hang on, repeat the problem for me real quick?
[05:34] <nickrud> btaylor5619, heh. Frostwire is a good alternative
[05:34] <btaylor5619> nickrud, Very well, I will download it and see what I think of it.
[05:34] <ssw2> Repost:-- ok i have a blue and white apple g3 and when i try to boot the ubuntu 5.10 ppc cd I get this error  PCI@80000000/PCI-BRIDGE@D/MAC-IO@5/ATA-3@20000/DISK@0:2,YABOOT.CONF:Unknown or corrupt filesystem  cds are shipments from canonical inc. and i have tried all of my ppc edition cds(install & Live) and get the same error.I have 3 ppc cd sets.
[05:35] <nickrud> btaylor5619, do you have java installed yet? if not, type !javadebs in this channel for info on getting java for either limewire or frostwire
[05:35] <btaylor5619> Installing Java was the first thing I did when I first installed Ubuntu.
[05:36] <bimberi> ssw2: try this (last post) -  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=137898
[05:36] <btaylor5619> And the Frostwire site appears to be down, because I am getting a 404 response when I attempt to access the site root.
[05:36] <_morphius> I'm trying to set up an anonymous ftp server. It works OK when I connect from behind my router, but from the other side, I can only use command line ftp. This unfortunately won't work for users who are too dumb to be able to use another type of FTP client (I just want to keep it simple) and allow them to use IE so that they can connect and copy their data in a familiar way. Does anyone have and Idea why this setup might be causeing this issue?
[05:36] <nickrud> frostwire came up for me
[05:36] <jadaz87> nalioth cycom  i thought the livecd was built different
[05:37] <cycom> because IE sucks? :)
[05:37] <Bonesmasher> Hey folks I'm in Fedora
[05:37] <Bonesmasher> I wiped out my Ubuntu install
[05:37] <Bonesmasher> Now I regret it :)
[05:37] <_morphius> I did too bones
[05:37] <Falstius> _morphius: maybe one is using FTP and another SFTP?
[05:37] <cycom> _morphius: is it going to a http address or a ftp one?
[05:37] <Hexidigital> Bonesmasher... what would make you do such a thing?
[05:37] <btaylor5619> Wait -- I got it... The website root is /static, instead of /, right?
[05:37] <jkeyes0> aww... good news is Ubuntu is easy to switch back to
[05:38] <_morphius> an ftp one.
[05:38] <nickrud> hitting enter a bunch of times is about as easy as it gets I would think
[05:38] <Bonesmasher> Hexidigital, well all the consulting firms use Red Hat
[05:38] <Bonesmasher> _morphius, You are in Fedora right now?
[05:39] <btaylor5619> Well, guys, I guess that's it.  I'll come back if I have any problems.
[05:39] <jadaz87> nalioth cycom i am a windows server 2003 expert linux "newbie" that needs direct commands for the differences between the two sets of live cds
[05:39] <Hexidigital> Bonesmasher:  two words... Free Will  :)
[05:39] <CiderJack> mic check
[05:39] <_morphius> I don't even have a port open when nmaping for sftp. I'm sure that I'm not using it. Windows ftp (command line and IE) don't support sftp anyway.
[05:39] <Hexidigital> CiderJack, you're good
[05:39] <cycom> jadaz87: never done it. Sorry m8.
[05:39] <CiderJack> Thanks Hexi :)
[05:39] <Hexidigital> :)
[05:39] <Bonesmasher> Hexidigital, I don't get your point but anyway this sucks
[05:39] <_morphius> I just hated yum bones
[05:39] <Hexidigital> Bonesmasher, i meant... free will to do what YOU want.... not what the crowd does
[05:40] <Bonesmasher> _morphius, yum?
[05:40] <Bonesmasher> yea
[05:40] <Bonesmasher> but i figure i spend all day stuck in red hat
[05:40] <Bonesmasher> i should use it at home to gain experience
[05:40] <_morphius> (you have discovered yum right bones?)
[05:40] <cycom> Bonesmasher: dual boot!
[05:40] <Bonesmasher> what is yum _morphius ?
[05:40] <nickrud> eschatology is not a well understood phenomenon
[05:40] <_morphius> yum is fedora's version of apt.
[05:40] <ssw2> thanks bimberi it worked
[05:40] <nalioth> Bonesmasher: yellowdog update manager
[05:40] <bimberi> ssw2: great! :)
[05:41] <ssw2> Probably needs a firmware update
[05:41] <Bonesmasher> nalioth, sounds cool
[05:41] <_morphius> you can acutally get an rpm based version of apt for fedora. I would highly recommend it bones.
[05:41] <Orunitia> how am I supposed to follow these stupid ubuntu wiki guides when half the crap they tell me to install ISN'T in the repositories?!
[05:41] <Orunitia> ARGH
[05:41] <Bonesmasher> The Fedora chat room is dead or occasionally someone says something rude
[05:41] <jmoncayo> can i get the iostream.h header for making c++ code?
[05:41] <ssw2> thanks for the help
[05:41] <ssw2> bye
[05:41] <Bonesmasher> _morphius, how do i do that
[05:41] <pax> redhat is not ubuntu same way guh-noo is not unix. dapper is the start of linux desktop, you are witnessing history ladies and gents. gee I have to take my pills :(
[05:42] <Hexidigital> Bonesmasher... we're at least glad you came back to the forum... you don't want to hang out with that Fedora folk
[05:42] <Hexidigital> :)
[05:42] <_morphius> Orunita, you need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file and uncomment all the extra lines starting with deb.
[05:42] <nickrud> pax, pass a few along
[05:42] <wy> I have a problem with my proftpd. The clients connect to it too slowly
[05:42] <nickrud> _morphius, he's gone already
[05:42] <_morphius> I never got that far and then fedora crashed on me.
[05:42] <Bonesmasher> Hmmm why is my disk churning for no reason
[05:42] <Bonesmasher> ?
[05:42] <_morphius> I would search yum for apt
[05:42] <nickrud> Bonesmasher, top in a terminal may give you the clue
[05:43] <jadaz87> does anyone here know how to customize dapper live cd's please say yes
[05:43] <nickrud> yes (but I lied)
[05:43] <CiderJack> At least you're an honest liar ;)
[05:44] <_morphius> probably. It's probably just a squashfs file. Search the net for knoppix remaster squashfs
[05:44] <TimM> /exit
[05:44] <TimM> aargh!
[05:44] <phewl> !tar.bin
[05:44] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, phewl
[05:44] <jadaz87> nickrud do you know of anyone?
[05:44] <nickrud> CiderJack, momma beat me when I lied. That's also why I don't play this screw the irc servers games that are going on :)
[05:45] <SoulPropagation> Is there an easy way to autodetect sound cards?
[05:45] <CiderJack> xcrew the irc servers games?
[05:45] <CiderJack> *s
[05:45] <nickrud> jadaz87, no, sorry.
[05:45] <cycom> nickrud: I never really got the whole channel flooding thing to begin with.  "Here, let me make myself well known as a complete moron while wasting the time of others!"
[05:46] <CiderJack> Ok, I've got an easy one: how much drive space does Ubuntu take when installed?
[05:46] <cycom> nickrud: or the bot channel floods "Here, let me BE a complete moron by anonymously wasting the time of others!"
[05:46] <_jason> CiderJack: 1.8gb is minimum but it depends what you install after that...
[05:46] <cycom> CiderJack: not so easy. depends on how you set it up.
[05:46] <SoulPropagation> CiderJack: 1.5gb for a normal install
[05:46] <luisito> hello people
[05:47] <CiderJack> Ok, I'll take the highest number, add a gig and run with that
[05:47] <nickrud> cycom, me either. I do that too much as myself to waste that notoriety on anonymity.
[05:47] <SoulPropagation> CiderJack: if you have a 10gb+ hard drive you're well in the clear
[05:47] <jkeyes0> jadaz87: so https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo didn't work for you?
[05:47] <SoulPropagation> Now then... Is there an easy way to autodetect sound cards? E.g. a command or a package or something to dpkg-reconfigure
[05:47] <cycom> CiderJack: What I did is installed a few distros on 10gb partitions and then left about 40gb for /home on a seperate partition. worked like a charm.
[05:47] <CiderJack> I ask 'cause I was trying to install on a 6.4gb hdd and it kept crashing
[05:47] <cycom> CiderJack: of course, I use ubuntu almost exclusively.
[05:48] <SoulPropagation> CiderJack: 6.4? sounds old; might be dying
[05:48] <luisito> how can I change my default media application to be amaroK?
[05:48] <_jason> !defaultapp
[05:48] <ubotu> To change the default app for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties, then the "Open With" tab and change the setting
[05:48] <CiderJack> Could be, the guy dug it out from the back room, even he was suprised he had it!
[05:48] <SoulPropagation> of course I'm using a 7-8-year-old laptop
[05:48] <_morphius> Soul: ubuntu should auto detect soundcards. You can get output of all your pci devices by doing lspci, if you are just looking for basic model numbers.
[05:48] <CiderJack> My desktop here is over 5 years
[05:49] <Strayhikari> Quick question, if I install a fresh install of ubuntu 5.10, and do a aptget distupgrade will it upgrade to Flight 6?
[05:49] <jadaz87> jkeyes0 that is for breezy not dapper
[05:49] <nickrud> !upgrade
[05:49] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html.
[05:49] <nickrud> Strayhikari, you'd need to do the ubotu link just above
[05:49] <Strayhikari> ok thanks guys
[05:49] <jkeyes0> jadaz87: it's for hoary/breezy. will it explicitly not work for dapper?
[05:50] <luisito> _jason, cool, I know that way, but I have a keyboard that have controls to launch a media application and when I select that key in the Keyboard Shortcuts it opens the Rythmbox and I want amaroK.
[05:50] <aj^> <-- noob;     how do i change the res from 640x480 to more ?
[05:51] <YouCeyE> The package amarok needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[05:51] <YouCeyE> i am getting this error
[05:51] <slavik> aj^: system -> preferences -> resolution
[05:51] <nickrud> YouCeyE, don't paste, put it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:51] <_jason> luisito: I don't know how to change that explicitly but you can make a new shortcut that uses that key and open amarok
[05:51] <_jason> ubotu: tell luisito about shortcuts
[05:51] <YouCeyE> k
[05:51] <SoulPropagation> of course I'm using a 7-8-year-old laptop
[05:51] <mustard5> SoulPropagation, I can think of a debian method of using discover for hardware detection, but I would assume ubuntu would do something similar when it started already
[05:51] <jadaz87> jkeyes0 the livecds are setup different
[05:52] <jkeyes0> ahh, ok. my mistake. Never hurts to ask though. :)
[05:52] <mustard5> SoulPropagation, I just found the command yesterday while playing with debian from scratch
[05:52] <luisito> _jason, thanks :)
[05:52] <jkeyes0> oh well, off to bed. g'night guys.
[05:52] <Jahooty> anyone here configured vsftpd before?
[05:52] <SoulPropagation> Jahooty: yeah, it's easy as pie. man 5 vsftpd.conf
[05:53] <jadaz87> Goodnight jkeyes0
[05:53] <SoulPropagation> mustard5: I believe it worked. Thanks!
[05:53] <mustard5> SoulPropagation, what did you use?
[05:53] <IceTox> I've made an own /home directory and user for eggdrops at /home/eggdrop. Now, I wanna Access this with my own personal user and want to be able to save the eggdrop files using my own user. How can I do this possible?
[05:53] <SoulPropagation> discover
[05:53] <mustard5> SoulPropagation, I was thinking of this command invoke-rc.d discover start
[05:53] <SoulPropagation> I'm going.... night.
[05:53] <Jahooty> i'm getting nothing but errors
[05:53] <Jahooty> Reason: 500 OOPS: vsftpd: cannot locate user specified in 'ftp_username':ftp.
[05:53] <kwtm1> Question: How do I find the files that I have just installed with Adept?  Is there a "apt-get --where-the-****-did-you-stick-the-files" command?  (I just installed PyKDE, and I can't find them under /lib or /usr/lib)
[05:54] <phewl> IceTox, you would type sudo chmod 777 -R /home/eggdrop/
[05:54] <SoulPropagation> mustard5: will remember if there's a problem
[05:54] <nickrud> kwtm1, dpkg -L <packagename> | grep bin for the executable
[05:54] <mustard5> SoulPropagation, k :)
[05:54] <SoulPropagation> thanks
[05:54] <intelikey> kwtm1 apt-file  is good
[05:54] <IceTox> phewl, this will give me the total of rights for this folder with it's current files?
[05:54] <AMDXP> do they also have a Edbuntu room?
[05:55] <IceTox> #ebuntu
[05:55] <AMDXP> ok thanks
[05:55] <phewl> IceTox, i believe so
[05:55] <cycom> AMDXP: and "Channel" not room :)
[05:55] <IceTox> oh sorry AMDXP seems like that channel was not in use. :-)
[05:55] <Strayhikari> ran into a problem with the 6.06 install disk
[05:55] <AMDXP> cycom: sorry used to saying room
[05:55] <cycom> nickrud: huh?
[05:55] <IceTox> I guess we all like Gnome so much better then AMDXP :-)
[05:56] <nickrud> cycom, I had to bite my tongue, room or channel
[05:56] <bimberi> AMDXP, IceTox:  it's #edubuntu
[05:56] <AMDXP> IceTox: i was wanting to try it for a school
[05:56] <AMDXP> yes i got it thanks
[05:56] <IceTox> thanks bimberi :-) Did you get that AMDXP ? #edubuntu :-)
[05:56] <IceTox> good =)
[05:56] <Strayhikari> the system installed, but the bootloader didn't install, is there anyway to have it install grub after the fact?
[05:56] <intelikey> IceTox gah'nomy   ?     yuch.
[05:56] <kwtm1> nickrud:  Thank you... I had to get the exact spelling of the package name, but I think it worked.
[05:57] <bimberi> IceTox: np :)
[05:57] <AMDXP> i got it thanks i already have Ubuntu on one box and my lappy
[05:57] <kwtm1> Is there something where I can type in an approximate package name, in case I don't know the exact one?
[05:57] <AMDXP> i wanted to try the other
[05:57] <IceTox> phewl, your tip worked just fine mate.. Thanks a lot for your help =)
[05:57] <intelikey> apt-cache
[05:57] <intelikey> kwtm1 ^
[05:58] <_morphius> Personally, Ice, I Installed enlightenment 17 out of the cvs repo.
[05:58] <nickrud> kwtm1, no, spelling is important for that command
[05:58] <cycom> AMDXP: heh. I understand.  I'm not a speech nazi or anything, but I try to speak correctly and help others with unfamiliar terms.  I've had plenty of people very rudely tell me that I was being silly for saying Room, box, Distro, etc. etc. etc.
[05:58] <phewl> IceTox,  any time
[05:58] <Toma-> cycom: thats when stfu comes into useful effect :)
[05:59] <intelikey> nickrud not for apt-cache it's not.   i mean you can input gah'nomy and get gnome but you can put in  gno and get gnome
[05:59] <cycom> Toma-: eh? the rude part?
[05:59] <nickrud> intelikey, true for apt-cache, not so true for apt-file or dpkg -L
[06:00] <kwtm1> intelikey: Thanks for the advice.  apt-cache seems to show more general info that I would already see in Adept or Synaptic.
[06:00] <intelikey> err s/can/can't/   ^     nickrud  yeah.
[06:00] <nickrud> intelikey, but obviously you read the question much better than I did :)
[06:01] <kwtm1> intelikey, nickrud: I tried apt-cache PartialPackageName, but it didn't find it.  So it looks like I have to know the package name.
[06:01] <Toma-> cycom: if someone is a jerk, u say stfu
[06:01] <intelikey> it's   apt-cache search  partial-name
[06:01] <nalioth_zZz> Toma-: not polite.
[06:01] <kwtm1> intelikey, nickrud: "apt-file" didn't find anything at all.  Oh, you mean "search"?  Will try that...
[06:02] <Toma-> oh sorry :|
[06:02] <intelikey> kwtm1    man intro    please.
[06:02] <cycom> Toma-: my response was usually held until they needed help by jumping in and giving them the answer.  After a few times of that, they tend to stfu anyhow.  The next n00b they pwnd for speaking funny I would quietly remind them how they had smacked me around for being a noob too, till I had something they needed.
[06:02] <newbuntie> you guys know what I'm talking about, right, the kingston usb memory thing...after putting that into the usb port, how do I access it?
[06:02] <FlannelKing> kwtm1: apt-cache search [stuff] 
[06:03] <polpak> newbuntie, it should just appear on your desktop
[06:03] <kwtm1> intelikey, nickrud: Okay, "apt-cache search" works to identify the exact package name, and then I can use "dpkg -L" to show.
[06:03] <newbuntie> and if it doesn't?
[06:03] <intelikey> kwtm1 that's the idea,  yep.
[06:03] <kwtm1> intelikey: What do you mean "man intro"?  I only see an intro to cmd-line linux.
[06:03] <nickrud> kwtm1, precisely
[06:03] <OrTigaS> hi i have USB-to-Serial Cable and theres a driver cd but i dont how to install.. anyone can help me to install?
[06:04] <kwtm1> Ok.  Thanks, FlannelKing, intelikey, nickrud.  Off I go! :)
[06:04] <cycom> OrTigaS: have you plugged it in yet?
[06:04] <OrTigaS> i plugged it already
[06:04] <intelikey> kwtm1 yes.   man is your friend.
[06:04] <polpak> newbuntie, is hotplug running?
[06:04] <_morphius> OrTigaS, I doubt your cd has the linux drivers on it.
[06:04] <cycom> do you have a console open?
[06:04] <cycom> OrTigaS: ^
[06:04] <OrTigaS> _morphius theres on the cd
[06:04] <newbuntie> polpak: didn't appear on my desktop, I'd like to check it with the file browser, where would it be in the file dir
[06:04] <OrTigaS> cycom yes
[06:04] <newbuntie> polpak: how do I enable or check hotplug? :)
[06:05] <polpak> newbuntie, /media assuming hotplug found/installed it
[06:05] <cycom> OrTigaS: don't worry about the driver CD yet. it may have been detected. Type 'dmesg' and see if it's there.
[06:05] <kwtm1> intelikey: I don't know what you mean.  I know about the "man" command, but when tried "man python-kde3-doc", there was no entry.  Some packages just don't have "man" files and I just have to find out where they're stashed.
[06:05] <cycom> OrTigaS: or 'lsusb'
[06:05] <Caminomaster> Hi
[06:05] <polpak> newbuntie, ps -auwx | grep hotplug in a console
[06:05] <kwtm1> nickrud: you mean "info" and all that?
[06:05] <patrick24601> I don't recall a response to my question about ubuntu on a tablet pc
[06:05] <OrTigaS> what should be the name?
[06:05] <iceman> help ... panic ... what would cause ubuntu to just sound 2 dings on startup og gnome .. and then attempt restart ... and repeate restart again and again in a loop
[06:05] <OrTigaS> so many appear
[06:05] <Caminomaster> Someone can help me to make rosegarden to ?sound
[06:05] <patrick24601> is anybody running it on a tablet pc
[06:05] <nickrud> kwtm1, a good method to find the man pages for a package is, dpkg -L <package> | grep man
[06:05] <puchy> hola
[06:05] <nalioth_zZz> Ladies and Gentlemen, I recommend you /msg ubotu register and register your nicks.  We have chances of bot storms and the channel may be made so registered users only can talk
[06:06] <cycom> OrTigaS: not sure.  it'll be near the end.  Try unplugging it and plugging it back in and looking for a change.
[06:06] <tritium_> nickrud: lowercase l, not L in that case
[06:06] <OrTigaS> i found 1
[06:06] <puchy> alguien que hable espaol?
[06:06] <nickrud> tritium, ?
[06:06] <polpak> !es
[06:06] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:06] <cycom> OrTigaS: what does it say?
[06:06] <carbo> hey, can anyone recommend a good graphical ftp client?
[06:06] <iceman> my gnome is traped in a loop and will not start
[06:06] <OrTigaS> prolific technology inc PL2303 Serial port
[06:06] <polpak> carbo, places->connect to server ?
[06:06] <Strayhikari> ok, I'm at a the rescue terminal at /, is there a way to apt-get grub?
[06:06] <tritium_> nickrud: I read your comment wrong, nevermind
[06:07] <Caminomaster> WHo uses Rosegarden?
[06:07] <cycom> OrTigaS: good! now what are you hooking up to the serial port?
[06:07] <carbo> polpak: wow, never noticed... this uses Nautilus or something?
[06:07] <OrTigaS> bus 001 device 002: id 067b:2303
[06:07] <cycom> nickrud: keeping score?
[06:07] <OrTigaS> cycom i'm gonna try the minicom to connect
[06:07] <nickrud> cycom, only against my betters
[06:07] <jmoncayo> does gcc somes by defaul in ubuntu brezee
[06:07] <Madpilot> carbo, yes, it does
[06:07] <polpak> carbo, yeah
[06:08] <newbuntie> polpak I get bad ps syntax warning and this and the only process I get back is grep hotplug
[06:08] <cycom> nickrud: all are created equal.
[06:08] <tritium_> jmoncayo: no, you should "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[06:08] <nickrud> cycom, then life goes on
[06:08] <polpak> newbuntie, try sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart
[06:08] <cycom> Ironhand: in dmesg did you see anything about a /dev/ttySomething?
[06:08] <OrTigaS> where using hyperterminal or pcplus in windows, so i'm gonna try the minicom if its working same
[06:09] <cycom> Ironhand: scratch that. sorry
[06:09] <cycom> OrTigaS: in dmesg did you see anything about a /dev/ttySomething?
[06:09] <cfraz89> hu
[06:09] <cfraz89> *hi
[06:09] <cfraz89> has anyone here used synce ?
[06:09] <cfraz89> i am trying to get an ipaq to work on my kubuntu comp
[06:09] <Caminomaster> CaN SoMeoNe HeLP Me WiTH a MiDi PRoBLeM?
[06:09] <polpak> !caps
[06:09] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[06:10] <cfraz89> *hi
[06:10] <cfraz89> has anyone here used synce ?
[06:10] <harisund> Any chess players here? I want to know how to tell gnu-chess that I have installed the opening book. It doesn't seem to know :(
[06:10] <OrTigaS> cycom i didn't see yet
[06:10] <cfraz89> i am trying to get an ipaq to work on my kubuntu comp
[06:10] <patrick24601> that was worse than all caps
[06:10] <polpak> cfraz89, nope, what's it for?
[06:10] <patrick24601> it was camel(toe) case!
[06:10] <c150> hey now, that wasn't all in caps
[06:10] <cycom> Caminomaster: not if you use annoying text.
[06:10] <OrTigaS> CiderJack why you pinging me?
[06:10] <cfraz89> its for connecting a windows pocket pc to a linux computer
[06:10] <tritium_> CiderJack: what was that for?
[06:10] <polpak> harisund, sorry.. I just play go
[06:10] <cycom> OrTigaS: he pinged the channel.
[06:10] <harisund> polpak: lol that's fine.
[06:10] <cfraz89> it keeps bumming out when pppd tries to connect
[06:10] <OrTigaS> okay
[06:11] <intelikey> my my,   learn something new every day.    i had no idea there were so many ways to exit less .......     q or Q or :q or :Q or ZZ
[06:11] <intelikey>               Exits less.
[06:11] <cycom> OrTigaS: but back to the serial port: try typing dmesg and looking for a new tty at the very end.
[06:11] <polpak> intelikey, odd, those are the same ways you exit vi ;p
[06:11] <CiderJack> Sorry, I pinged the whole channel :P just checking
[06:12] <OrTigaS> cycom ok gonna try that
[06:12] <intelikey> polpak some of them.  not all.
[06:12] <harisund> CiderJack how do you ping a channel?
[06:12] <polpak> intelikey, except ZZ will also save the file
[06:12] <CiderJack> harisund: /ping #ubuntu
[06:12] <intelikey> polpak but  q or Q  will probably just type  and not exit....
[06:12] <harisund> Oh ok . (not that I am going to try it .. but just wanted to know ..)
[06:12] <Caminomaster> cycom, my txt is not annoying
[06:12] <polpak> intelikey, ah, true enough
[06:13] <c150> what's wrong without ubuntu? you would think it could function without being connected to the internet...
[06:13] <polpak> c150, it does....
[06:13] <alexk_> TEH INTRANET IS MAD IMPORTANT
[06:13] <jmoncayo> tritium, hey can i use the iostream.h??
[06:13] <jadaz87> !caps
[06:13] <intelikey> all i had ever used was  q  to exit less....
[06:13] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[06:13] <cycom> Caminomaster: the random text caps is annoying.  I think pretty much everyone here would agree on that.
[06:13] <c150> no doubt, that's why I'm trying to fit it
[06:13] <tritium_> thanks for that enlightenment, alexk_
[06:13] <c150> but everytime I try to sudo, it has to look up its own hostname
[06:13] <c150> which takes a few minutes to fail
[06:13] <alexk_> NE TYME
[06:13] <tritium_> jmoncayo: of course
[06:13] <OrTigaS> cycom i saw a usb-serial
[06:14] <c150> and if I reboot it tries to do all kinds of things with the network, freezing the boot process
[06:14] <nickrud> c150, you have a problem
[06:14] <cycom> OrTigaS: was there anything about a /dev/tty ?
[06:14] <c150> yes, it's called linux
[06:14] <newbuntie> polpak: i restarted it but still don't see anything on my desktop
[06:14] <nickrud> c150, no, it's called /etc/hosts
[06:14] <OrTigaS> ttyusb0
[06:14] <c150> yeah, I put the hostname in there now
[06:14] <nickrud> c150, gethostbyname() or such?
[06:14] <jmoncayo> tritium, do i need to install it or comes with the sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:14] <cycom> OrTigaS: I think that's it. That would be your serial port, unless I'm sadly mistaken.
[06:14] <c150> I don't know which IP it wants to get, but it isn't as bad now
[06:14] <polpak> nickrud, well his complaint about the startup is valid. Except he could just disable the services that need network access
[06:15] <cycom> OrTigaS: I'm not too familiar with minicom.  Let me see what I can dig up real quick
[06:15] <c150> the point of the computer is services that need network access
[06:15] <Caminomaster> cycom, all right. Did U know how 2 config MIDI?
[06:15] <c150> but in any case I would expect that I could use NTP and file shares and still be able to boot without a network
[06:15] <cycom> Caminomaster: not off the top of my head, no.
[06:15] <OrTigaS> cycom thanks! i'm gonna try then if theres a prob a gonna ask again! Thank You Very Much!
[06:15] <nickrud> polpak, that's a point. Now that I think on it, I've never booted without a net access under ubuntu.
[06:15] <cycom> OrTigaS: no problem m8! good luck!
[06:16] <c150> back when I used NFS it could take 10 minutes to boot if there was a problem
[06:16] <harisund> nickrud, I agree with you on that. Somehow I get an empty feeling if I boot without internet :D
[06:16] <polpak> nickrud, yeah, you have to wait for the ntp sync to fail, and possibly the dhcp resolution, etc
[06:16] <nickrud> shades of the 80's
[06:16] <tritium_> jmoncayo: it comes with
[06:16] <brandon_> can anyone help me setup Ubuntu Center?
[06:16] <jmoncayo> tritium, oki thanks a lot
[06:16] <polpak> jmoncayo, I think it's just iosteam now
[06:16] <tritium_> right ^
[06:16] <jmoncayo> does somebody know any program for linux like macromedia dreamweaver?
[06:16] <polpak> iostream rather
[06:17] <Madpilot> jmoncayo, Nvu, if you really need a WYSIWYG editor
[06:17] <polpak> jmoncayo, ^^ what he said
[06:17] <intelikey> hehhe  i have   /etc/hosts /etc/hosts.deny /etc/hosts.allow    all of which are blank    but i doubt that that is normal.
[06:17] <polpak> jmoncayo, course really a text editor works pretty well
[06:17] <zF> Hi
[06:17] <zF> I have a question
[06:17] <kwtm1> jmoncayo: Would Quanta+ do?
[06:17] <jadaz87> !espresso
[06:17] <ubotu> jadaz87: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:17] <nickrud> zF, ask away
[06:17] <Madpilot> zF, please just ask, don't ask to ask
[06:18] <jmoncayo> polpak, i know but just wondering, and what is WYSIWYG
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  i was thinking those 2 files are normally used by the inetd/xinetd deamons
[06:18] <newbuntie> polpak: there is stuff that runs when I plug the memory in, like hald-addon-storage and [usb-storage]  and [scsi_eh_5]  some of those processes belong to user hal
[06:18] <c150> kwtm1: i've never seen it do anything
[06:18] <Bman|> has anyone here setup Ubuntu Center? i need help please
[06:18] <phrowzen> jmoncayo, what you see is what you get
[06:18] <zF> Is it possible to raise the volume on Amarok or Ubuntu? My laptop internal volume is maxed and my speakers are maxed but it's barely hearable
[06:18] <nickrud> /etc/hosts shouldn't be empty
[06:18] <Madpilot> Bman|, what is Ubuntu Centre?
[06:18] <Bman|> hang on ill link ya to screenshots
[06:18] <Bman|> https://ubuntucenter.bountysource.com/screenshots
[06:19] <kwtm1> zF: does "alsamixer" let you adjust the volume?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> zF,  install some of the other sound mixer apps. and twiddle with all the controlls :P
[06:19] <Bman|> im basically a noob with linux, ive used it before but im bad with installing
[06:19] <polpak> newbuntie, can you pastebin the output of dmesg after you plug it in?
[06:19] <zF> kwtm1, what exactly do you mean?
[06:19] <nickrud> is that proprietary?
[06:19] <kwtm1> c150: I'm still undecided whether you were joking or serious. :P
[06:19] <Bman|> so i need help from someone and the #ubuntucenter channel is empty
[06:19] <Madpilot> Bman|, what does that actually do? It looks like a web app, or something?
[06:19] <polpak> !tell newbuntie about pastebin
[06:19] <kwtm1> zF: when you run the command "alsamixer" in a command window, does it give you a screen that lets you adjust volume using the up/down keys?
[06:20] <c150> I've tried to use it
[06:20] <c150> I know what the webpage says, but I don't know what it does
[06:20] <zF> kwtm1, right. I adjusted the headphone out and was able to raise the volume roughly 25%
[06:20] <cycom> Bman|: I've never heard of ubuntu center. wassat?
[06:20] <zF> kwtm1, thanks, but Windows is still MUCH louder - any other tips?
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> https://ubuntucenter.bountysource.com/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_Center
[06:20] <aseidl> does the install boot screen have any kind of timeout to automatically start installation?
[06:20] <cycom> Bman|: nevermind. saw the link
[06:20] <Bman|> its like a web interface that allows you to remotely access files from your pc to upload/download and you can see satistics on your pc and watch the torrent downloads or https, also listen to music from your pc and pictures
[06:20] <intelikey> Dr_Willis yeah,  i'm  like completely network illiterate.   the only network i have is  dialup  internet.     i tried to put togather a  slip network  one time...  hehhe never got anywhere with it.
[06:20] <zF> kwtm1, nevermind, PCM was the missing ingredient. Thank you very much. That was perfect.
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> Its aparently in alpha testing.
[06:20] <Bman|> yeah it is
[06:21] <Bman|> its pre-alpha
[06:21] <nickrud> Bman|, that belongs to tucows, not ubuntu
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> which is even scariery
[06:21] <Bman|> tucows?
[06:21] <kwtm1> zF: Okay.  I figured it was a combination of controls that had reduced the volume.
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> the install page seems very clear.
[06:21] <Bman|> yeah and i followed it
[06:21] <Bman|> i installed it
[06:21] <Caminomaster> Who can help me with MIDI?
[06:21] <Bman|> but i am having trouble configing it
[06:22] <aseidl> I'm trying to install on a comp that only has usb, no ps2 ports
[06:22] <intelikey> nickrud sayas  ?
[06:22] <cycom> Bman|: whoa. That looks cool.
[06:22] <aseidl> but my usb keyboard isn't recognized immediately
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> Bman|,  the lack of docs on that site is amazing. :P i would avoide that program untill it gets better documented then.
[06:22] <nickrud> intelikey, the more pissed I am at myself, the worse the spelling
[06:22] <Bman|> someone else here should try to set it up maybe they can help me then
[06:22] <aseidl> so I can't hit enter to start installation
[06:22] <Bman|> yeah well i really want it
[06:22] <cycom> aseidl: that sounds like a bios thing.  I ran ubuntu install with a usb keyboard...
[06:22] <Bman|> so im going to try it no matter what
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> #ubuntucenter on irc.freenode.net
[06:23] <intelikey> nickrud i stand under you, about that one....
[06:23] <Bman|> yeah im in the channel
[06:23] <Bman|> its empty
[06:23] <Madpilot> Bman|, it's a remote web interface for your own PC?
[06:23] <kwtm1> Caminomaster: I'm having trouble with MIDI myself...
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> Bman|,  thats not a good sign either.
[06:23] <Bman|> look at the screenies
[06:23] <Bman|> its new dr_willis
[06:23] <Bman|> not very old
[06:23] <Bman|> not to popular yet
[06:23] <kwtm1> Caminomaster: But I've decided that I'll only handle one thing at a time.  Otherwise I'll get overwhelmed by Linux.
[06:23] <FlannelKing> not too secure either, eh?
[06:24] <Madpilot> Bman|, given that there's no "This is what this app does" info easily available on their website, I'm not surprised it's not too well known...
[06:24] <Caminomaster> kwtm1, What have used? Timidity?
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> Looks a lot like a webmin setup. :P
[06:24] <Bman|> umm idk what webmin is
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> Madpilot,  :P looks like the kind of thing that could vanish over night.
[06:24] <Madpilot> FlannelKing, at least it seems to use PHP5 instead of PHP4, for what that's worth WRT security...
[06:24] <cycom> Bman|: it looks pretty hot so far.  I may have to try that.
[06:24] <Bman|> hang on let me get there main site
[06:24] <damian_> Ubuntu 5.10 'server' installation doesn't install any compilers? :/
[06:24] <kwtm1> Caminomaster: I tried running KMidi, which I consider a basic app.  It said: "I can't get to /dev/sequencer!  Some other program must be using it!"
[06:24] <Bman|> yeah cycom
[06:24] <Bman|> cyco*
[06:24] <FlannelKing> Madpilot: heh, give me ssh and icecast server anyday ;)
[06:25] <damian_> i've apt-get'd gcc, yet i still can't compile anything, any ideas?
[06:25] <Madpilot> damian_, 'sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:25] <cycom> damian_: barebones, I suppose.  just build-dep something.
[06:25] <damian_> ahh, lets try that!
[06:25] <Caminomaster> kwtm1, with alsa?
[06:25] <intelikey> damian_ b-e
[06:25] <damian_> ta
[06:25] <kwtm1> Caminomaster: In fact, when I checked, there *was* no /dev/sequencer.  I figure it just wasn't installed yet.  But I'm going to leave it until I figure out why (k)Ubuntu suddenly decided not to talk to my printer.
[06:25] <damian_> ugh, 60mb. lol
[06:25] <Bman|> cycom try to install it i wanna see if you can do it easy
[06:25] <Bman|> the install is a breezy but i cant config it right
[06:26] <carbo> can gedit handle files via ftp? like edit directly a file on another server
[06:26] <damian_> i can't get apt-get to install from the cd for some reason, could it just be because of later versions online?
[06:26] <Bman|> i just installed ubuntu brezzy bager a few hours ago
[06:26] <kwtm1> Caminomaster: I believe I have alsa installed, if that's what you're asking.  I used AlsaMixer with success.  However, whether it's ALSA or OSS I'm not sure.
[06:26] <Caminomaster> kwtm1, Are you new in Ubuntu?
[06:26] <Madpilot> Bman|, you might want to play with Ubuntu for a few days before you start installing pre-alpha server stuff...
[06:26] <Bman|> well this isnt my first time using ubuntu
[06:26] <polpak> carbo, if you connect with the places->connect to server you should be able to click->open a file w/ gedit
[06:26] <Bman|> its just i havent used it in like 3 months
[06:26] <kwtm1> Caminomaster: I installed 5.10 soon after it came out, but I mainly want to use the computer, and not to tinker.  I've used Linux (mainly Mandrake) since 2002 or so.
[06:26] <cycom> Bman|: did you build from source or use the binary?
[06:27] <Bman|> i followed the instructions on there site
[06:27] <Bman|> i dont remember what it had me do
[06:27] <Jahooty> anyone know what this means:  Reason: 500 OOPS: vsftpd: cannot locate user specified in 'ftp_username':ftp.
[06:27] <Jahooty> nm
[06:27] <Bman|> heres there site http://ubuntucenter.ttt-server.be/
[06:27] <kwtm1> Caminomaster: I find that the list of little things to fix in any Linux distro is endless, and if I wait till I fix every single last thing, I'll never get anything done.
[06:27] <chris__> how do i uncompress .rpm?
[06:28] <carbo> polpak: yeah but its read only and the file properties in nautilus tells me the permissions couldn't be read
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> chris__,  i often use 'mc' to view their contents and copy things out
[06:28] <andre_> hello
[06:28] <wheel> chris google alien
[06:28] <cycom> Bman|: WHOA. Whatever it is, I just download the source at over a meg a second.  I like their site. :)
[06:28] <newbuntie> polpak ok posted
[06:29] <Bman|> lol
[06:29] <Caminomaster> kwtm1, I'm new in this... near 1 moth ago I shooted & kicked Wn6w$
[06:29] <intelikey> chris__  normally you don't want to use an .rpm on a debian based system.     isn't there something in the repos that will work for you ?
[06:29] <polpak> carbo, if you right-click you should be able to set the permissions
[06:29] <polpak> newbuntie, what's the url for your post?
[06:29] <chris__> well im tryin to install limewire
[06:29] <kwtm1> Caminomaster: Okay.  Well, best of luck.  I'm going to make dinner.  Have fun!
[06:29] <chris__> and its the only file system they have for linux
[06:29] <Caminomaster> kwtm1, Sometimes I pay the price... but I'm free
[06:29] <carbo> polpak: when i right-click and check the properties it says something like File permissions could not be determined
[06:30] <polpak> !tell chris__ about limewire
[06:30] <Madpilot> !limewire
[06:30] <intelikey> Dr_Willis yeah i like to install .debs via mc also.
[06:30] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[06:30] <polpak> !tell chris__ about frostwire
[06:30] <Bman|> cycom, let me know when you have installed it
[06:30] <carbo> polpak: for just about all the files on my ftp
[06:30] <newbuntie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12536 it's under my name
[06:30] <polpak> carbo, how strange
[06:30] <Caminomaster> Midi problem (buh!)
[06:30] <andre_> hello gents
[06:31] <polpak> newbuntie, hrm well it's clearly seeing the drive.. ls -al /media pls
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> intelikey,  i never install them that way. :P I just use mc to see whats In the rpms..
[06:31] <wheel> ubotu: how many newbies are going to run an sh file?
[06:31] <ubotu> wheel: what are you talking about?
[06:31] <Madpilot> wheel, ubotu is a bot :P
[06:31] <chris__> k im gonna try and get frostwire
[06:31] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell wheel about yourself
[06:31] <chris__> thx all
[06:31] <chris__> bye
[06:32] <wheel> Mad: thanks!!! :)
[06:32] <andre_> does anybody know how to get libdvdcss to play encrypted dvd's
[06:32] <newbuntie> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root    6 2006-02-04 20:54 cdrom -> cdrom0
[06:32] <newbuntie> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4096 2006-02-04 20:54 cdrom0
[06:32] <wheel> Madpilot: :)
[06:33] <andre_> libdvd
[06:33] <newbuntie> polpak: that's all, nothing else
[06:33] <Jahooty> ok, anyone know what this means:   Message sent:
[06:33] <Jahooty> Login using username=ftp and password=[hidden] 
[06:33] <Jahooty> Server replied:
[06:33] <Jahooty> 500 OOPS: child died
[06:33] <Jahooty> Do you want to retry?
[06:34] <_milo> hello, i just installed kubuntu 5.10 and noticed mplayer is not installed or available through apt?
[06:34] <intelikey> Dr_Willis on mdk systems i learned to install .rpms via mc  to get urpmi installed on a minimal system.   so it was a natural thing to use it on debs also.
[06:34] <newbuntie> what does this mean in the output dmesg? /dev/scsi/host6/bus0/target0/lun0: p1
[06:35] <Madpilot> _milo, it's in Multiverse - and none of the packages are just called "mplayer", just to confuse people :P
[06:35] <_milo> Madpilot: dang, i also searched "video" ...
[06:35] <Bman|> Warning: main() [function.include] : Failed opening '/home/brandon/.mozilla/firefox/czczeiw8.default/bookmarks.html' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /var/www/center/bookmarks/index.php on line 15
[06:36] <Bman|> anyone know why i would get that?
[06:36] <intelikey> newbuntie that says partition one on the scsi disk  /dev/sdf1
[06:36] <newbuntie> polpak I'm asking because I don't have a scsi directory under /dev
[06:36] <Madpilot> _milo, you need to enable Multiverse, I'm guessing
[06:36] <Madpilot> !tell _milo about multiverse
[06:36] <chris__> how do u uncompress .deb files
[06:36] <_milo> wth
[06:36] <chris__> lol
[06:36] <_milo> your kidding me
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> chris__,  why would you want to? -- How about Installing them? :P
[06:37] <chris__> how do i install them :P
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> !apt-get
[06:37] <ubotu> somebody said apt-get was http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.txt (in depth) and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[06:37] <Madpilot> !info mplayer-586
[06:37] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> time to learn some apt-get skills :P and dpkg kung-fu!
[06:37] <brandon__> i've got alsaplayer set up to play system sounds instead of arts. is there a way i can stop alsaplayer from showing up every time the system plays a sound?
[06:37] <Madpilot> _milo, nope - see ubotu's info post on mplayer-586 above...
[06:38] <intelikey> iirc  they are compressed with gzip  but  that's not important to your real question chris__   dpkg -i file.deb
[06:38] <chris__> will do
[06:38] <intelikey> as root of course.
[06:38] <newbuntie> polpak: and I don't have /dev/sdf1 either, just sda and sda1
[06:39] <intelikey> there is also an extract=templates switch for dpkg iirc
[06:39] <Madpilot> newbuntie, you'd only have "sdf" if you had lots of SATA/SCSI drives installed
[06:40] <intelikey> Madpilot scsi can be set to what ever address you like with jumppers  me thinks
[06:40] <chris__> grrrr
[06:40] <chris__> btw im using ppc architecture not i386
[06:40] <Madpilot> intelikey, I'll take your word for it - I've never used SCSI, just thought it was lumped in with sdx
[06:40] <chris__> :'(
[06:40] <Madpilot> chris__, for Java you're SOL, then
[06:41] <chris__> dammit
[06:41] <Madpilot> blame Sun
[06:41] <invader_zim> morning all
[06:41] <damian_> know off hand how i can install the libtcl.so (for eggdrop and what-not)? .. what package it comes with
[06:42] <newbuntie> polpak: ok, I got to go, thanks for the help, I'll try to figure it out later, thx again
[06:42] <intelikey> Madpilot i haven't actually moved the jumper on my cheeta but i think it will jumper to sd[a-h]   0-7 bus id's
[06:42] <damian_> or maybe i just need to symlink the /usr/lib/libtcl8.4.so.0 ?
[06:42] <invader_zim> I would like to install courier-authlib for courier imap anyone know how is that possible?
[06:43] <invader_zim> wasnt really designed for Debian base ox
[06:43] <invader_zim> os*
[06:46] <jessid> some of you can recommend some light graphic manager for ubuntu? I want to run some applications faster...
[06:46] <crimsun> "graphic manager?"
[06:46] <hyphenated> window manager
[06:47] <intelikey> icewm
[06:47] <crimsun> openbox? fluxbox? pekwm? ion?
[06:47] <intelikey> xfce
[06:47] <OrTigaS> hi i'm back!
[06:47] <intelikey> twm   <--- super light.
[06:48] <jessid> hyphenated oh yes! sorry for my english jejeje
[06:48] <OrTigaS> i have still problem using the minicom. it wont connect to the machine that i'm trying to communicate
[06:48] <jessid> intelikey ok!
[06:48] <jessid> twm then???
[06:48] <intelikey> tmw is about as light as they get.
[06:48] <intelikey> err twm
[06:48] <intelikey> it comes with xorg as part of xorg
[06:49] <hyphenated> jessid: you probably want one slightly more advanced than twm :-)
[06:49] <OrTigaS> is anyone uses hyperterminal or pcplus in windows and switch to linux
[06:49] <jessid> hyphenated talk to me...
[06:49] <OrTigaS> i tried the minicom but still didn't work
[06:49] <hyphenated> jessid: the other guys have suggested a few. you're welcome to try some/all of them and pick your own favourite
[06:49] <hyphenated> OrTigaS: to do what?
[06:50] <jessid> hyphenated ok, ok!
[06:50] <_milo> if i have an athlon should i use 586 or 686?
[06:50] <Healot> k7
[06:50] <Healot> linux-image-*k7
[06:50] <OrTigaS> hyphenated to connect to a communication machine directly thru USB-to-Serial cable
[06:50] <hyphenated> OrTigaS: well, there's a few things to configure
[06:51] <_milo> Healot: i was thinking mplayer ;) .. but same effect
[06:51] <OrTigaS> hyphenated it been detected already
[06:51] <OrTigaS> cycom help me earlier
[06:51] <_milo> Healot: strangely enough mplayer-k7 is a dummy package ... hrm
[06:51] <intelikey> de-hyphenated coffee  ?
[06:51] <hyphenated> OrTigaS: so you've configured the device, baud rate and parity?
[06:51] <OrTigaS> hyphenated yes
[06:52] <_milo> Healot: installing nonetheless
[06:52] <hyphenated> intelikey: I wouldn't recommend it. it's pretty weak and bitter ;-)
[06:52] <hyphenated> OrTigaS: so what problem are you having now? :-)
[06:52] <intelikey> lol
[06:52] <OrTigaS> hyphenated it wont show it has to
[06:52] <OrTigaS> like the pcplus does
[06:52] <hyphenated> OrTigaS: uh.. show what has to what?
[06:52] <OrTigaS> i'm new to linux
[06:53] <blindx> hahaha nice. Photoshop 7 CAN be installed using wine.
[06:53] <OrTigaS> hyphenated pcplus is the one we use to communicate to our machine which is thru serial cable
[06:53] <blindx> (and run.)
[06:53] <OrTigaS> so i try the minicom and now it didn't show anything
[06:53] <polpak> blindx, meh.. I prefer the gimp
[06:53] <blindx> polpak: I just can't get used to it.
[06:53] <blindx> It doesn't do what I want it to.
[06:54] <polpak> blindx, there's also supposed to be "gimpshop" which makes all the shortcuts photoshop like
[06:54] <blindx> plus, all the hotkey buttons are completely different
[06:54] <blindx> oh really? :P
[06:54] <polpak> blindx, yeah, but it's not in apt yet =(
[06:54] <OrTigaS> if i use wine and install hyperterminal its gonna work??
[06:54] <blindx> I'm not sure what hyperterminal is.
[06:54] <hyphenated> OrTigaS: probably not :-)
[06:55] <hyphenated> blindx: it's a tool for talking to COM ports
[06:55] <polpak> blindx, he's talking about something else
[06:55] <OrTigaS> or the window base pcplus
[06:55] <NytWolf> Hardware/network question: Note, I'm using only a command line... Is there anything special I should know when trying to run two ethernet cards in the same Ubuntu server? eth0 and eth1 seem to be conflicting somehow or another (and not on a hardware addressing level)
[06:55] <Madpilot> OrTigaS, isn't hyperterminal a modem program?
[06:55] <whyameye_> OrTigaS: I'm tuning in late. You want something hyperterminal like in ubuntu? Try cutecom.
[06:55] <intelikey> _milo dummy package ?    meta package you mean ?     meta packages are full of dependancies  they depend on other packages,  it's kinda a way to install a list that installs what you really want.
[06:55] <Falstius> OrTigaS: there are linux alternatives for hyperterminal.
[06:55] <OrTigaS> what else?
[06:55] <OrTigaS> uucp?
[06:55] <whyameye_> OrTigaS: cutecom.
[06:55] <OrTigaS> okay lemme try that
[06:55] <Falstius> well, you could just run a ttyso on your serial port.
[06:55] <Falstius> er ttys
[06:56] <polpak> OrTigaS, you've tried kermit or minicom?
[06:56] <OrTigaS> Falstius i try to change to ttyusb0
[06:56] <OrTigaS> minicom polpak
[06:56] <intelikey> ttyS0 = com 1
[06:56] <pax> "hyperthrmia can also be addressed with linux!" he says
[06:57] <Falstius> intelikey: yeah, sorry for the imprecision.
[06:57] <OrTigaS> when i typer dmesg i saw this ttyusb0 so i configure the minicom port to ttyusb0
[06:57] <polpak> OrTigaS, and what's the trouble w/ minicom?
[06:57] <OrTigaS> polpak it wont show anything that it should be
[06:57] <B_166-ER-X> ok, i will put my question in very simple terms:  i cannot burn to dvd's.  (buyed another one, tried , and f***ed 13 dvd's. searched for help..)   still, nothing (but i can burn CD-r with another burner whitout problem)
[06:58] <whyameye_> OrTigaS: do you mean /dev/ttyUSB0?
[06:58] <OrTigaS> whyameye_ yes
[06:58] <intelikey> Falstius np.  only mentioned it because there is device nodes  ttys*
[06:58] <blindx> B_166-ER-X, what program are you using?
[06:58] <B_166-ER-X> tried with k3b, gnome-baker, and nautilus
[06:58] <blindx> heh
[06:58] <Healot> B_166-ER-X: before you f*** someone else, please tell us exactly, what program did you use, the error message if available?
[06:59] <OrTigaS> is anything i should do in minicom to work as like pcplus
[06:59] <B_166-ER-X> Healot, i'm trying to make it work since like 15:00 pm, and its 00:59 am here ..so there are a lot of error messages piled up. but i can sumarize :
[07:00] <OrTigaS> and if a installed the cutecom theres no conflict with the minicom?
[07:00] <whyameye_> OrTigaS: I can't think of why there would be. But cutecom might not be in synaptic...
[07:01] <B_166-ER-X> i tried mostly with k3b, (it was working before, than someday it make thiserror, so i thought it was de drive, so i buyed a new one today) still... it was saying there was a 'joliet extensions chars problem... because or '' and '' chars in song and files titales
[07:01] <OrTigaS> so i'm gonna apt-get
[07:01] <B_166-ER-X> then i tried to 'force input chars' with k3b.. worked....well, it burn, but i cannot read the dvd afterward
[07:02] <B_166-ER-X> i see the files, but cannot acess them
[07:02] <whyameye_> OrTigaS: unfortunately cutecom is not in the repos. I compiled from source. It's an easy build if you have built stuff before...
[07:02] <B_166-ER-X> i also activated the DMA, didnt change anything
[07:02] <B_166-ER-X> i'm OUT of ideas.
[07:03] <B_166-ER-X> the most common error was , Possibly creating an invalid Joliet extension. Aborting.
[07:03] <intelikey> may be a stuppid idea.   but maybe rename the files, removing the ' or " chars in them.
[07:03] <OrTigaS> whyameye_ i'm newbie so i cant do that yet
[07:03] <B_166-ER-X> i tried, but its not that...i burned for a year these files...it always worked.
[07:04] <B_166-ER-X> and lots of the files are on a read only drive :|
[07:04] <Healot> B_166-ER-X, i think it's the track setting... tried UDF instead of ISO or Joliet
[07:04] <melaren> How do you go about pinpointing the cause of a lock-up?
[07:04] <B_166-ER-X> and, even after removing bad chars...still wouldnt read the dvd
[07:04] <whyameye_> OrTigaS: I'm a bit green or I'd know how to make a .deb of my install of cutecom. anybody out there known how to do this? I remember something about fakeroot...
[07:04] <Healot> UDF is more proper for DVD content
[07:04] <B_166-ER-X> how or where, do i change this
[07:04] <poningru> just go iso
[07:05] <hyphenated> whyameye_: did you download a source package?
[07:05] <poningru> B_166-ER-X: what are you trying to do?
[07:05] <whyameye_> hyphenated: yes
[07:05] <mikeo1> anyone know whats up with my gnome?
[07:05] <damian_> how can i get tcl.h / libtcl.so installed? :/
[07:05] <Healot> "dh_make" on the top source directory
[07:05] <mikeo1> anytime i select gnome session, it says loading session and freezes
[07:05] <mikeo1> never loads it
[07:05] <mikeo1> startkde works fine tho
[07:05] <tomy> hi all
[07:05] <Jahooty> i can't get vsftpd to work property, does anyone know what i might be doing wrong?
[07:05] <Healot> i think dh_make is avail on the the debhelper-related packages, not sure
[07:06] <polpak> Jahooty, depends on what error you're getting
[07:06] <B_166-ER-X> Healot,  where in k3b i change to UDF ???
[07:06] <Bman|> whats the permissions to delete something?
[07:06] <Bman|> like chmod what?
[07:06] <hyphenated> B_166-ER-X: in the 'burn' dialog after you've set all the files up
[07:06] <whyameye_> B_166-ER-X: are you running Breezy?
[07:06] <polpak> Bman|, you need write access to the directory in order to delete
[07:06] <B_166-ER-X> breezy alright
[07:06] <Bman|> how do i get it?
[07:07] <Jahooty> this one right now:  Message sent:
[07:07] <Jahooty> Login using username=anonymous and password=[hidden] 
[07:07] <Jahooty> Server replied:
[07:07] <Jahooty> 500 OOPS: child died
[07:07] <Jahooty> Do you want to retry?
[07:07] <polpak> Jahooty, use pastebin pls
[07:07] <Healot> package "dh-make
[07:07] <Healot> "
[07:07] <intelikey> mikeo1 delete all your .gnome*   and try again.... note that will remove customizations   if that is unacptable,  don do it.
[07:07] <polpak> Bman|, do you own the directory?
[07:07] <Bman|> uhh its on my pc
[07:07] <B_166-ER-X> Healot,  i see the burn dialog, but i dont see this anywhere, hmm
[07:07] <mikeo1> it works in failsafe
[07:07] <Bman|> idk how to own a dir
[07:07] <mikeo1> where are the .gnome files?
[07:07] <polpak> Bman|, ls -ld /path/to/directory
[07:07] <B_166-ER-X> ah 'Generate UDF structures'
[07:08] <tomy> hi Iam new in umbuntu...
[07:08] <Jahooty> http://pastebin.com/668635
[07:08] <B_166-ER-X> Healot,  do i uncheck rock ridge and jolit ?
[07:08] <Bman|> i need to delete /var/www/center/photos
[07:08] <intelikey> mikeo1 ~/.gnome
[07:08] <Bman|> it wont let me
[07:08] <carbo> how do i mount something and make it belong to my user and not root?
[07:08] <intelikey> mikeo1 rm -fr ~/.gnome*
[07:08] <Bman|> -rwxr-xr-x
[07:08] <polpak> Jahooty, also pastebin your vsftpd config file
[07:08] <Bman|> thats what it shows
[07:08] <Healot> B_166-ER-X, btw i don't use gui tool like gnomebaker/k3b, cdrecord is preferable to me
[07:08] <polpak> Bman|, whos the user and group?
[07:08] <mikeo1> no such files
[07:08] <Healot> B_166-ER-X: you need both for long filenames...
[07:08] <B_166-ER-X> ok, ..
[07:09] <Bman|> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root , that?
[07:09] <blindx> anyone think PS:CS2 will install on ubuntu? :x
[07:09] <tomy> can you telme what is the pararel statement for 'smit' or 'smitty' in ubuntu?
[07:09] <polpak> Bman|, yes. what is the directory?
[07:09] <_morphius> How might one list all loaded modules and/or find out what modules are loaded at boot?
[07:09] <Bman|> this /var/www/center/photos
[07:09] <Healot> "lsmod", _morphius
[07:09] <bimberi> _morphius: lsmod (to list loaded modules)
[07:10] <Jahooty> polpak, http://pastebin.com/668637   i redid it from scratch going over the manpage on the web.  but i was getting the same errors before
[07:10] <B_166-ER-X> Healot,  your pretty sure that was my problem ? cause i dont feel like scrapping a 14th Dvd tonight on another useless test :|
[07:10] <polpak> Bman|, chown username:username /var/www/center/photos
[07:10] <_morphius> hmm. Can't be that. That's way too easy and makes too much sense. *kicks self for being an idiot*
[07:10] <Healot> B_166-ER-X: I suggest you try to use Windows CD-burner first, or lookup at FAQ/wiki on burning DVD
[07:11] <B_166-ER-X> windows ??
[07:11] <Healot> well, it works well :)
[07:11] <intelikey> B_166-ER-X for crying out loud    learn to use  dummy write.   so it tests without making frisbies
[07:11] <B_166-ER-X> and i dont need a Faq. it worked here for a year, jsut stopped last week
[07:11] <Healot> ok... nvm then
[07:12] <B_166-ER-X> also, this is a ubuntu only pc ;)
[07:12] <Healot> B_166-ER-X, what did you do last week?
[07:12] <intelikey> well there's your problem
[07:12] <Healot> if it worked before...
[07:13] <B_166-ER-X> i didnt do nothing special i can remember before it stopped working
[07:13] <ltR20> anyone here? How do i update firefox
[07:13] <ltR20> or can i download firefox from offical site and put it in /opt/
[07:13] <Healot> yes
[07:13] <intelikey> ltR20 there is a wiki on that.
[07:13] <ltR20> any guides
[07:14] <Healot> !ff1.5
[07:14] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:15] <OrTigaS> is anyone used uucp as like pcplus or hyperterminal?
[07:15] <Healot> i only use minicom for modems...
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[07:17] <highvoltage> !ops
[07:17] <Bman|> how do i delete a folder in terminal?
[07:17] <crimsun> oh god, not this crap again.
[07:17] <p7605> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
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[07:17] <highvoltage> help!
[07:18] <martynda> uh.... nice
[07:18] <Bman|> how do i delete a folder in terminal?
[07:18] <lilo> getting them
[07:18] <Madpilot> highvoltage, once on the !ops is usually enough
[07:18] <crimsun> thanks, lilo.
[07:18] <Frogzoo> thx Madpilot
[07:18] <Madpilot> thanks lilo
[07:18] <hyphenated> Bman|: if it's empty already, use rmdir foldername
[07:18] <highvoltage> Madpilot: thanks, ubotu kindly told me off-channel
[07:18] <Frogzoo> Madpilot: it's possible I missed one of the !ops scrolling by - sorry about that
[07:19] <DBO> they are STILL spamming?... uhg...
[07:19] <Jahooty> so does anyone else know why vsfptd isn't working?
[07:19] <martynda> Bman|: rm -r folder
[07:19] <Madpilot> Frogzoo, with that sort of flood, that's understandable
[07:19] <martynda> or rmdir if it's empty
[07:19] <intelikey> i found it humorous, that both mozilla  and  the security updated mozilla for hoary have the same bug in the post-inst/rm scripts   that trys to dubble lock dpkg and thus error out as partially installed.  can't finish installing them can't remove them.
[07:20] <Bman|> ok thanks
[07:21] <intelikey> it's times like that, that make me wonder if i should have took up hacking....   if i had of,  i think i could have stopped that guy by now...
[07:23] <intelikey> Madpilot and Frogzoo i only saw the last !ops  call.....   have no idea how many there were.
[07:23] <johanbr> Madpilot: Does freenode not use a proxy blacklist?
[07:24] <intelikey> johanbr freenode supports tor...
[07:24] <Madpilot> intelikey, neither do I - was afk, got back and that flood had already run off the top of my screen - I only keep the last 300 lines
[07:24] <intelikey> hehhe that was full in like 2.2 seconds
[07:25] <Madpilot> something like that... bleh
[07:26] <intelikey> how did that all hit at once?   it looked like a server join.
[07:26] <nalioth_zZz> intelikey: botnet
[07:26] <intelikey> then in essence it was the same as a server joining
[07:27] <johanbr> intelikey: Oh, so those were all tor nodes? Shows what tor is good for, I guess. Not to mention that I'd have a hard time imagining that tor would be consistent with those cable providers' AUPs,
[07:27] <nalioth_zZz> johanbr: they were not
[07:27] <nalioth_zZz> this is all just zombie windows boxes in action
[07:27] <Madpilot> Three cheers for Microsoft! ;)
[07:27] <ajmitch> yay
[07:28] <intelikey> johanbr i didn't say they were tor nodes.  i said freenode supports tor     that was in asnwer to your question about black listing proxies   you can't very well do both.
[07:29] <nalioth_zZz> ajmitch: probably gonna keep it +R until seveas wakes up
[07:29] <johanbr> intelikey: Okay. Still, if the freenode operators for some reason are so enamoured of tor, they could combine a proxy blacklist with a tor whitelist.
[07:29] <martynda> why not use bots that autoboot flooders?
[07:29] <johanbr> To me, an open proxy is an open proxy.
[07:30] <ajmitch> nalioth_zZz: I think I'll stay in this channel for a couple of hours at least :)
[07:31] <intelikey> martynda yeah but the names were not consistant with a flood.   so that would have trubble working also.
[07:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> hobbsee will probaly be onl later, she has ops here doesnt she?
[07:31] <ajmitch> Kamping_Kaiser: yes, and so do I
[07:31] <Madpilot> Kamping_Kaiser, yes - I'll be here for another couple of hours too, FWIW
[07:31] <martynda> ah, well, just a suggestion from a noob :)
[07:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> ajmitch, yeh. i'm asuming you sleep some time. or are you aways awake fomr some reason
[07:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[07:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> intelikey, but you can ban anyone/thing repeating the same thing a lot
[07:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. which could be a problem in a help channel ;)
[07:32] <johanbr> I remember seeing something on the ubuntu wiki about moving the irc channels off freenode. Did anything ever come of that?
[07:32] <spikeb> yay geek girls
[07:32] <intelikey> martynda did you notice that the names were never repeting.
[07:32] <ajmitch> spikeb: calm down..
[07:33] <martynda> yeah, i did, but don't you ban based on the host?
[07:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> johanbr, move off freenode?
[07:33] <sagarp> how can i have it so when i boot, the linux penguin shows at the top? what is that called
[07:33] <cawns> so i just installed default ubuntu and it boots to the gui, what can i edit so i just boot to a console login prompt?
[07:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi daniel
[07:33] <johanbr> Kamping_Kaiser: Yep. Something about (some of) the ubuntu devs being unhappy with freenode's policies.
[07:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> cawns, you can change a runlevel to not start gdm and set that as your default
[07:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> sagarp, how commited tothe idea are you? :)
[07:34] <cawns> Kamping_Kaiser, gdm is responsible for starting all the gui stuff?
[07:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh. afaik
[07:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> im fairly sure it starts x, si suppose it is
[07:35] <sagarp> Kamping_Kaiser: er, fairly committed...is it a lot of tedious work?
[07:35] <intelikey> cawns yes.   sudo rm -i /etc/rc2.d/*gdm*
[07:35] <cawns> and how do i do this, find the gdm symlink in an etc/rcx.d folder?
[07:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> cawns, run 'sudo update-rc.d gdm remove' iirc
[07:35] <johanbr> sagarp: That logo is not in the standard ubuntu kernels, so you'd have to compile your own. Or you could possibly modify a usplash theme to display the logo.
[07:36] <intelikey> cawns runlevel 2 is the default in ubuntu  fyi
[07:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> sagarp, afaik you have to recompile initramfs. i cant help you with that
[07:36] <sagarp> johanbr, ooh...so it's not a simple matter of uh, enabling framebuffer or whatever?
[07:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> nope
[07:36] <sagarp> =(
[07:37] <johanbr> sagarp: Afraid not. From the ubuntu kernel config: # CONFIG_LOGO is not set
[07:37] <lgc> HedgeMage: Hi again!
[07:37] <sagarp> aw sux
[07:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> whats +R mean?
[07:38] <intelikey> lilo says set to +R  but ub was  +R pre-deluvian    no ?
[07:38] <cawns> ubuntuguide.org also says i can install proftpd by doing sudo apt-get install proftpd but it cant find the package wherever it goes out to look for it
[07:39] <intelikey> Kamping_Kaiser must be registered to speak
[07:39] <hondje> cawns: do you have universe in your repositories? if not, add it :)
[07:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks intelikey
[07:39] <intelikey> cawns repos
[07:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> cawns, take a gun, and put a bullet in yoru ubuntuguide link
[07:39] <intelikey> !repos
[07:39] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:39] <intelikey> cawns do that ^
[07:40] <cawns> thx :)
[07:41] <matth-w> Hello... Was wondering about maybe someone helping me getting flash with firefox working?
[07:42] <intelikey> that must be for someone else.... i don't like ff and don't do flash....   and i'm out of here.
[07:42] <cawns> heh wow ubuntu really makes things easy
[07:43] <lgc> :-D HedgeMage, you there?
[07:45] <martynda> cawns: since it seems like you're new, may I suggest running Automatix?
[07:45] <martynda> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138405
[07:46] <FlannelKing> no.....
[07:46] <FlannelKing> !automatix
[07:46] <ubotu> automatix is, like, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[07:46] <robinl1> !automatix
[07:46] <robinl1> DON'T - RUN - AUTOMATIX
[07:46] <lgc> :-! Anyone here knowledgeable with problems with upgrades to Breezy? Mi %$&#"# keyboard doesn't work!
[07:46] <martynda> ok maybe people do like it too much :p
[07:46] <FlannelKing> why use auto... when easyubuntu does the same and is better?
[07:46] <robinl1> martynda: For your information: it messes up your installation.
[07:46] <blindx> what IS automatix?
[07:47] <robinl1> martynda: I used automatix, and i had to reinstall ubuntu thanks to that devil spawn
[07:47] <martynda> i havent used it personally, just read about it and people getting good results with it
[07:47] <Madpilot> martynda, this channel has seen too many "So I ran Automatix, and now <something> doesn't work...HELP!" posts....
[07:47] <martynda> but i guess different results here
[07:47] <Frogzoo> !tell matth-w about nonfree
[07:47] <robinl1> yes it SEEMS so
[07:47] <FlannelKing> blindx: it's a script that installs a bunch of stuff
[07:47] <blindx> ahhh i see.
[07:47] <robinl1> it looks like it is
[07:47] <robinl1> but it isn't
[07:47] <martynda> sorry! don't kill me :p
[07:47] <Frogzoo> matth-w: install the non free flash plugin, see the pm ubotu sent you for details
[07:47] <robinl1> some things don't work anymore after you did that
[07:47] <robinl1> haha no prob :)
[07:48] <thoreauputic> ;)
[07:48] <matth-w> I never got a tell.
[07:48] <matth-w> And I already installed the nonfree flash
[07:48] <martynda> lol ps. im not a girl, just to make that clear, since that seems to me a common mistake based on my alias
[07:48] <martynda> thanks though
[07:48] <lgc> Please help with Breezy!!!!
[07:48] <thoreauputic> martynda: it isn't OK to comfort guys?
[07:49] <martynda> absolutely!
[07:49] <thoreauputic> :)
[07:49] <Frogzoo> !nonfree
[07:49] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Frogzoo
[07:49] <strayhikari> Hey quick question, if we have dapper 6.06 installed and do a apt-get upgrade
[07:50] <Frogzoo> !tell matth-w about restricted
[07:50] <strayhikari> all the packages it lists, are they actually downgrades?
[07:50] <Sp4rKy> hi
[07:50] <matth-w> Alright, with that I already downloaded the w32 codex
[07:50] <Frogzoo> matth-w: so what's the problem?
[07:50] <matth-w> It's not running any flash...
[07:50] <lgc> Is anyone reading me? I do want to know since I've never used "Gaim" before. Please react...
[07:51] <Myrtti> lgc: yes
[07:51] <Frogzoo> matth-w: in the ff location bar, enter 'about:plugins' - do you see the non free flash plugin?
[07:51] <strayhikari> lgc: yes
[07:51] <Frogzoo> lgc: can't see a thing, sorry
[07:51] <matth-w> one second
[07:52] <matth-w> I don't.
[07:52] <Sp4rKy> i'm trying to install swsusp2 with a 2.6.16.5 kernel on dapper
[07:52] <Sp4rKy> but when i try "sudo hibernate" , it doesn't work
[07:52] <lgc> Myrtti, strayhikari, Frogzoo, thanks. Does any of you know how to cure a rebellious, non-working keyboard in Breezy? (I had to enter Windoze and download gaim just to ask...)
[07:53] <Frogzoo> matth-w: so read the pm from ubotu, and see where it mentions the non free flash plugin & install it
[07:54] <lgc> Myrtti, strayhikari, Frogzoo, thanks. Does any of you know how to cure a rebellious, non-working keyboard in Breezy? (I had to enter Windoze and download gaim just to ask...)
[07:54] <strayhikari> sorry lgc, I'm pretty new to linux as well
[07:55] <IceTox> Does anyone know if Gnome has something alike karamba for KDE?
[07:55] <lgc> strayhikari: thanks anyway.
[07:55] <ajmitch> IceTox: try gDesklets
[07:55] <spikeb> gdesklets perhaps?
[07:55] <thoreauputic> !gdesklets
[07:55] <ubotu> [gdesklets]  gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[07:55] <IceTox> thanks
[07:55] <Tomcat_> strayhikari: Packages will *only* update, except if you advise apt to downgrade.
[07:55] <ajmitch> afternoon thoreauputic :)
[07:55] <thoreauputic> ajmitch: hello :)
[07:56] <matth-w> No new version is detected. ( = not installed)
[07:56] <matth-w> That's what it gave me
[07:56] <Sp4rKy> and when i start computer , i've a message like "incorrect value from resume2= , please set it before use suspend2" , whereas i've add "resume2=/dev/hdc10" on the menu.lst
[07:56] <strayhikari> Tomcat_: I just wanted to be careful, since dapper is in the testing category was afraid apt-get woudl consider the latest stable version as an upgrade (had this problem in gentoo)
[07:56] <Sp4rKy> please does anyone could help me
[07:58] <lgc> If I was flaming I'm sure I'd get more attention...:-D
[07:58] <matth-w> yeah, being on fire is a sure way to get attention
[07:58] <IceTox> ajmitch, do you happend to know where I can find theme files for this gDesklets?
[07:58] <FlannelKing> IceTox: inside of gDesklets theres a menu
[07:59] <IceTox> ok FlannelKing.. I'll have a look at it :-)
[07:59] <lgc> matth-w: Did I say "on flames"?
[07:59] <Frogzoo> Sp4rKy: for dapper -> #ubuntu+1
[07:59] <matth-w> No, but I was trying to make a bad pun.
[07:59] <Sp4rKy> Frogzoo, thx
[08:00] <matth-w> Just give me a curtosy laugh?
[08:00] <lgc> matth-w: you'd be better off helping me with my technical problem...
[08:00] <matth-w> True...
[08:00] <matth-w> Sorry
[08:00] <matth-w> I know nothing about ubuntu so far... so I'm no help. Sorry about that.
[08:01] <Tomcat_> strayhikari: Versions in Debian and Ubuntu are strictly seperated, so no worries. :o
[08:01] <lgc> matth-w: :-D, there's your "curtosy" laugh...
[08:01] <Tomcat_> strayhikari: You would have to manually change all references from dapper to breezy, and even then apt would not automatically downgrade stuff, because the dapper packages are newer.
[08:01] <matth-w> Haha, thanks man
[08:02] <lgc> matth-w: no prob.
[08:02] <strayhikari> Tomcat: Gotcha, thanks for the info!
[08:03] <Frogzoo> matth-w: so 'dpkg -l flashplayer-mozilla'  shows the pkg as installed?
[08:03] <matth-w> No packages found matching flashplayer-mozilla.
[08:03] <matth-w> :(
[08:04] <Frogzoo> matth-w: this on breezy?
[08:04] <matth-w> huh?
[08:05] <Frogzoo> matth-w: r u running ubuntu 5.10 = breezy badger
[08:05] <matth-w> Heh... how do I see my version?
[08:06] <bimberi> !version
[08:06] <ubotu> To find out what ubuntu version you have type 'lsb_release -a' or 'cat /etc/issue' in a terminal.
[08:06] <matth-w> Yeah, it's 5.10
[08:06] <carbo> how can i improve playback of .wmv files? its very jerky in mplayer
[08:07] <Frogzoo> matth-w: so use synaptic or apt-get to install the pkg
[08:07] <Frogzoo> matth-w: when you say you installed the flash player, I'm wondering what you actually installed?
[08:07] <matth-w> Well I have it downloaded...
[08:07] <Slackwise> carbo: Recompile mplayer with mmx/see/see2 instructions (/me ducks) :P
[08:07] <matth-w> Or at least I'm pretty sure I do
[08:08] <Frogzoo> matth-w: ah, that's not the way ubuntu does it - ugprades are 99% of the time through aptitude, with synaptic or apt-get as a front end
[08:08] <matth-w> ALright.
[08:08] <carbo> Slackwise: ahhh... alright
[08:09] <Slackwise> carbo: I was joking :P There's probably an easier way. :D
[08:09] <Frogzoo> !tell matth-w about docs
[08:09] <matth-w> Thanks
[08:09] <Frogzoo> yw
[08:09] <matth-w> Alright, yeah I think I got it now...
[08:10] <carbo> Slackwise: i thought so... i've heard about some fixes but i can't remember where... probably to do with the w32codecs or something
[08:10] <strayhikari> ok this is really wierding me out, is dapper rootless?
[08:10] <johanbr> Frogzoo: This is probably nitpicking, but apt-get is not a frontend to aptitude and I don't think synaptic is either.
[08:11] <matth-w> Yay it's working, right on, thanks so much man
[08:11] <Madpilot> johanbr, synaptic is a front end to apt-get, AFAIK
[08:12] <anto9us> strayhikari, yes, use sudo, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:12] <johanbr> Madpilot: Right, that's what I thought, that it used apt-get rather than aptitude. I have to say aptitude in itself is quite nice, though.
[08:12] <johanbr> strayhikari: Right, by default dapper doesn't have a root account.
[08:13] <strayhikari> ok, cool was worried for a minute when it wouldn't let me su root
[08:13] <IceTox> hum.. have anyone here tried to install this XPde Environment to ubuntu before?
[08:13] <Killgore> what was all that about
[08:13] <strayhikari> Also, does anyone know how to start network manager in 6.06?
[08:14] <Phlosten^> strayhikari, maybe ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:14] <anto9us> strayhikari, join #ubuntu+1
[08:14] <johanbr> strayhikari: Typing "nm-applet &" in a terminal should get the applet running. There's this bug where it sometimes mysteriously disappears, though.
[08:14] <strayhikari> ok, thanks for the help :)
[08:14] <CNAP> what was all that about?
[08:15] <Frogzoo> johanbr: semantics, there's aptitude the program, and aptitude, the pkg mgt system
[08:15] <stuzz78> number of files in a folder?  can any help?
[08:15] <smb_> anybody knows how to make ubuntu execute mp3's with xmms and not with totem
[08:15] <danMD> Yeah, I sorta have the same question actually. Is there any other media player I can use other than Totem?
[08:15] <GTroy> anyone have any preferences for xmms visualizations?
[08:16] <johanbr> Frogzoo: To the best of my knowledge, the packaging system is not called aptitude. Not that it's important...
[08:16] <IceTox> totem seems to be f***ed up by standard :-)
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[08:16] <danMD> Totem doesn't seem to have the support for many of the filetypes I would like to use
[08:16] <IceTox> bah.. lamers..
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[08:16] <Frogzoo> !ops
[08:16] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[08:16] <FlannelKing> +R time...
[08:16] <crimsun> oh lilo...
[08:16] <FlannelKing> heh
[08:16] <binarybeats> hello
[08:16] <Madpilot> no sooner do we unset R, and they're back...
[08:16] <robinl1> ...
[08:17] <Frogzoo> it's a conspiracy
[08:17] <robinl1> ..
[08:17] <robinl1> check the topic there.. it says it's not them flooding all channels
[08:17] <IceTox> maybe it's windows users? *grins*
[08:17] <Frogzoo> robinl1: you just got in then - major spam 1/2 hour ago
[08:17] <robinl1> this is not us who are flooding #gentoo and #perl and #rubyonrails and possibly some others, some loser(s) trying to give this channel a bad reputation | channel is +m until another op wakes up and takes control | sorry for the disruption...
[08:17] <binarybeats> every time I try to boot a ubuntu amd64 live cd, it goes to xdm and appears that the display has torn and locks up.
[08:17] <robinl1> that's the topic :p
[08:18] <Frogzoo> Seveas: while the room is locked, could we have a mesg for newbs that they need to register, pls?
[08:18] <Madpilot> Frogzoo, it's in the /topic
[08:18] <stjepan> how can I see what versions of checkinstall are available for apt-getting?
[08:18] <johanbr> stjepan: apt-cache policy checkinstall
[08:18] <bimberi> stjepan: apt-cache policy checkinstall
[08:18] <kkathman> what was what all about?
[08:19] <IceTox> This Desklets thingie was no fun! How come gnome can't make anything as easy as KDE? Is there any other alike software as karamba for gnome?
[08:19] <Frogzoo> Madpilot: cool, thx
[08:19] <danMD> Hey can you guys see this message?
[08:19] <FlannelKing> nope
[08:19] <Madpilot> dAndy, yes
[08:19] <bimberi> danMD: no :)
[08:19] <Frogzoo> danMD: can't see nuttin
[08:19] <danMD> lol good to know
[08:19] <blindx> "how do i make it so you can see what i say?"
[08:19] <blindx> hahahaha
[08:20] <danMD> Hey i'm completely new to ubuntu, I was wondering is there any media player out there that can play mp4?
[08:20] <spikeb> danMD, rhythmbox
[08:20] <johanbr> danMD: Mplayer can. Probably xine, too.
[08:20] <blindx> I'm going to say this so everyone knows... don't run Photoshop 7 on ubuntu unless you frequently save your work and don't mind doing a cold reboot whenever you do something wrong.
[08:20] <IceTox> danMD, you could download VLC Media Player at www.videolan.org
[08:20] <robinl1> blindx: in wine, crossover, or native binary run? ^^
[08:20] <danMD> oo i was thinking of getting VLC, I didn't think they had a Ubuntu version though
[08:20] <blindx> wine
[08:21] <robinl1> k
[08:21] <robinl1> yesh i know that
[08:21] <spikeb> bah
[08:21] <robinl1> don't run mirc either
[08:21] <robinl1> try it :p
[08:21] <danMD> I know Ubuntu is built off of Debian but I wasn't exactly sure if that version would work
[08:21] <spikeb> the gimp can use PS plugins
[08:21] <blindx> they sure do danMD, it's in the repositories
[08:21] <spikeb> so use the gimp
[08:21] <IceTox> danMD, you should go for the regular tarball package then :-)
[08:21] <blindx> spikeb: i don't like the gimp
[08:21] <bimberi> !info vlc
[08:21] <robinl1> i like it SO MUCH
[08:21] <danMD> lol, sounds good, thanks
[08:21] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[08:21] <spikeb> you don't have to :P
[08:21] <blindx>  :P
[08:21] <robinl1> http://robinl1.deviantart.com
[08:21] <IceTox> Anytime danMD
[08:21] <martynda> danMD: sudo apt-get install vlc
[08:21] <robinl1> check out my GIMP work xD
[08:21] <bimberi> danMD: vlc is in ubuntu's universe repository - you need to enable it ...
[08:22] <blindx> I just can't make it do what I want it to do.
[08:22] <bimberi> !tell danMD about universe
[08:22] <IceTox> bimberi, VLC is on apt-get too?
[08:22] <danMD> ooo i see, nice
[08:22] <danMD> I'll try that thanks
[08:22] <bimberi> IceTox: yep
[08:22] <IceTox> didn't know that bimberi :-)
[08:22] <bimberi> IceTox: :)
[08:23] <IceTox> bah.. lilo stop noticing me... :-P
[08:23] <WarOfAttrition> I'm having an issue with Gimp and a tablet. When I move the tablet cursor over the drawing area, the CPU goes to 100% and stuff gets laggy. Is there some special trick out there to avoid this?
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> WarOfAttrition: other than that, the tablet works? I am thinking you might not have it setup properly.
[08:24] <blindx> robinl1, there's a crossover PS7?
[08:24] <WarOfAttrition> fyrestrtr: yes other than that the tablet works, and other programs don't cause this
[08:24] <blindx> am i running it in wine like a jackass for no reason?
[08:24] <stjepan> does anyone here (except me) get "segmentation fault" error when using checkinstall?
[08:24] <WarOfAttrition> how should the tablet been setup? I've tried everything in the settings of gimp
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> blindx: you have something against gimp?
[08:24] <blindx> I don't like it.
[08:25] <Phlosten> stjepan, if you are using the dapper one it is broken
[08:25] <blindx> Can't get used to it.
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> blindx: ah okay
[08:25] <IceTox> Doesn't Gnome come with any other eyeCandy then this "gDesklets"? It's way harder to understand then KDE's karamba.. :/
[08:25] <blindx> I'm new to linux and all my previous graphicking has been done in photoshop. Things may not seem that different at the surface, but I can't get ANYTHING done in gimp.
[08:26] <stjepan> Phlosten: yes, I'm using dapper
[08:26] <IceTox> blindx, then download wine and run photoshop through Wine :-)
[08:26] <Phlosten> stjepan, you can install the more recent version from the checkinstall website
[08:26] <johanbr> blindx: There's something called gimpshop that's supposed to more closely resemble photoshop. I don't think it's in ubuntu, though.
[08:26] <Frogzoo> blindx: photoshop is more fully featured than gimp - but gimp is free
[08:26] <Madpilot> IceTox, for functional applets, try right-clicking on either panel (top or bottom) and select "Add to Panel" - there's some useful things there
[08:27] <Frogzoo> blindx: what you need to do is to get photoshop running under wine
[08:27] <blindx> Frogzoo: I have it running under wine.
[08:27] <blindx> And I have it for free ;)
[08:27] <Phlosten> blindx, gimpshop is a script that rearranges and renames bits and pieces in the gimp to resemble photoshop more
[08:27] <IceTox> Madpilot, I was more looking for a eye candy tool to get my desktop look better :-)
[08:28] <johanbr>  IceTox: There's a variation on gdesklets called adesklets. Not sure what the difference is.
[08:28] <spikeb> anyone here use gtkpod?
[08:29] <blindx> Is there any utility that anyone knows off that will take a program off the taskbar, and instead give it an icon in the "tray" ?
[08:29] <FlannelKing> IceTox: thats what all the "desktop candy" is.  applets
[08:29] <IceTox> I'll check it out then johanbr :-)
[08:29] <johanbr> blindx: That's not easily done. The system tray and the task list are completely different from a programming point of view.
[08:29] <HedgeMage> question: have a newbie who, during an upgrade from hoary to breezy, didn't accept some of the config file changes he should have.  Are the new versions that he didn't used saved anywhere so we can just move them over?
[08:29] <Absenth> anyone here run the ventrilo server on ubuntu?
[08:30] <IceTox> Yeah, but I simply didn't got that gdesklets program to work properly FlannelKing :-)
[08:30] <DBO> HedgeMage, what config files?
[08:30] <FlannelKing> IceTox: you just apt get it, don't get the -applets or... -data or whatever package.  then run it, and add stuff.
[08:30] <johanbr> HedgeMage: They're called filename.dpkg-new .
[08:30] <blindx> johanbr, how about something else then.. possibly putting certain programs on a seperate panel on the side?
[08:31] <HedgeMage> DBO: I think hardparm.conf is one of them, will attempt to figure out the rest when I have that sorted.
[08:31] <HedgeMage> johanbr: thank you that saves me quite a bit of work (I'm on Dapper so don't know what differences there may be offhand)
[08:31] <johanbr> blindx: That should definitely be doable. Don't know of any such utility offhand, though.
[08:32] <carthik> blindx use http://alltray.sourceforge.net/ maybe
[08:32] <DBO> HedgeMage, Im not 100% sure, but I dont think keeping his old hdparm.conf (provided it was working) would really break anything...
[08:32] <carthik> blindx i used it about 6 months ago last
[08:32] <Sp4rKy> hi guys
[08:33] <DBO> hi Sp4rKy
[08:33] <blindx> that's exactly what i wanted!!
[08:33] <blindx> carthik, you're a god send
[08:33] <HedgeMage> DBO: I'm hoping not... but I want to see what the diffs are
[08:33] <blindx> :D
[08:33] <Sp4rKy> does anyone use swsusp2 and could says me what is the resume2 option
[08:33] <HedgeMage> DBO: easiest way to know if it's the culprit
[08:33] <carthik> blindx, that will be $10 :P
[08:33] <blindx> Can't I just put out?
[08:34] <ppcguy> hey all question.. I hozed my xorg.conf.. Trying to rename and use my backup, but having syntax issues
[08:35] <johanbr> Sp4rKy: It tells susp2 which partition to use for reading/writing the memory image.
[08:35] <blindx> dpkg-deb: `alltray.ubuntu_0.60-1_i386.deb' is not a debian format archive
[08:35] <Frogzoo> ppcguy: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:35] <DBO> HedgeMage, I believe the defaul hdparm.conf that comes with 5.10 is one line of non-commented text, that being "quiet"
[08:35] <blindx> uh.. i clicked the "debian" download link.
[08:35] <Phlosten> how does one clear out broken deb packages,..i had to stop a system update and now I have some corrupted .deb packages
[08:35] <ppcguy> Frogzoo, is that easier than using the backup?
[08:35] <blindx> errr "ubuntu"
[08:35] <Sp4rKy> johanbr, ok , but i've put "resume2=/dev/hdc10" on the kernel line of the menu.lst , hdc10 is my swap
[08:35] <Frogzoo> ppcguy: or just move the backup back in place
[08:36] <Sp4rKy> johanbr, and it doesn't works at startup
[08:36] <HedgeMage> DBO: He had some (unspecified) "tweaks" in the old one... I had no idea what goes in there and wanted an example in case things needed ripping out
[08:36] <blindx> er nevermind. i did save as, it's going through sourceforge
[08:36] <ppcguy> that's what I'm trying to do.. me thinks I'm using the wrong command
[08:36] <johanbr> Sp4rKy: and you're using a custom kernel patched with suspend2?
[08:36] <Frogzoo> ppcguy: 'sudo mv xorg.conf.6786898 xorg.conf'
[08:36] <Sp4rKy> johanbr, yes , 2.6.16.5
[08:36] <ppcguy> let me try that again.. thought that was right
[08:37] <johanbr> Sp4rKy: There should be some suspend2 lines in syslog telling you why it didn't resume.
[08:37] <DBO> HedgeMage, http://pastebin.com/668741 that is unmodified since i got it
[08:37] <blindx> Oh absolutely beautifulllllllllll.
[08:38] <HedgeMage> DBO: good, safe to start ripping stuff out then
[08:38] <Sp4rKy> johanbr, no :( but at the startup of the computer, i've some wrning like "resume2= not set correctly , plesase set t and restart before use swsusp2"
[08:38] <Sp4rKy> johanbr, do you use swsusp2 ?
[08:38] <blindx> now lets see. the only way this could get even more beautiful is if.....  is there anyway I can add a command to the right click menu? (when you right click the taskbar/menubar of a program)
[08:39] <FlannelKing> blindx: yes, but I've forgotten how.  If you look for details about how to re-add the terminal to the right click menu, you'll be able to generalize
[08:39] <Sp4rKy> johanbr, here is the exact line "Apr 19 07:28:47 localhost kernel: [4294667.296000]  Kernel command line: root=/dev/hdc6 ro quiet resume2=/dev/hdc10
[08:39] <Sp4rKy> Apr 19 07:28:47 localhost kernel: [4294670.593000]  Suspend2 2.2.4: Missing or invalid storage location (resume2= parameter). Please correct and rerun lilo (or equivalent) before suspending.
[08:39] <Sp4rKy> "
[08:39] <johanbr> Sp4rKy: I used to. Try resume2=swap:/dev/hdc10 .
[08:39] <Sp4rKy> ok , i'll try
[08:39] <Sp4rKy> on the kernel line ?
[08:40] <johanbr> Sp4rKy: yes
[08:40] <blindx> oh my goodness. carthik, I owe you :P
[08:40] <stjepan> while installing my checkinstalled qemu package, I get this error:
[08:40] <stjepan> dpkg: error processing qemu_0.8.0-1_i386.deb (--install):
[08:40] <stjepan>  trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.15-20-686/modules.usbmap', which is also in package linux-image-2.6.15-20-686
[08:40] <stjepan> how to fix this?
[08:40] <carthik> blindx, glad to see you see that the demand for $10 is well justified.
[08:40] <Sp4rKy> johanbr, i reboot  and i'll come back
[08:41] <carthik> blindx, just kidding, of course
[08:41] <blindx> sure you are.
[08:41] <Frogzoo> stjepan: for dapper support -> #ubuntu+1
[08:41] <johanbr> stjepan: Remove that file before you run the checkinstall. Or, if you're feeling brave, do "dpkg --force all blah.deb". In general, the latter is a bad idea.
[08:44] <Frogzoo> matth-w: you get your flash working?
[08:45] <ppcguy> thanks much frogzoo think all is sorted now
[08:47] <caturOK> hello
[08:47] <caturOK> can i ask some quest here
[08:47] <Tomcat_> !ask
[08:48] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[08:48] <caturOK> how to my wlan card supported at my ubuntu
[08:48] <Frogzoo> !wifi
[08:48] <caturOK> i mean to configure it
[08:48] <ubotu> from memory, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[08:48] <caturOK> yes
[08:49] <caturOK> i read and i try step by step from u say but not help me full
[08:50] <blindx> what was the name of that program? gimpshop?
[08:50] <blindx> er script
[08:50] <johanbr> yes
[08:50] <bimberi> blindx: yes
[08:50] <blindx> may be worth looking into
[08:50] <blindx> running PS7 under wine, text functionality is out the window :)
[08:50] <Strayhikari> ok I've been trying for days to get this to work and its impossible :(
[08:51] <blindx> meh, I should go to bed. I have english class in the morning that I cannot miss.
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> blindx: maybe you should dual boot
[08:51] <Strayhikari> Coudl someone please help me with setting up wireless?
[08:51] <blindx> fyrestrtr, i don't have the patience.
[08:51] <Frogzoo> !wifi
[08:51] <ubotu> it has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[08:51] <sobbbber> how will i format an SD card in a card reader (acts as flash disk) in ubuntu?
[08:51] <Strayhikari> I've gone thorugh that
[08:51] <Strayhikari> doesn't help me :(
[08:52] <blindx> Strayhikari, specific problem?
[08:52] <johanbr> blindx: Which morning is it that you cannot miss? :)
[08:52] <blindx> the morning I'm supposed to be having in about 7 hours :)
[08:52] <Strayhikari> My usb prism2 wlan card will not work
[08:52] <Frogzoo> sobbbber: just the usual - fdisk - & mkfs
[08:53] <Strayhikari> it is being detcted in lsusb, the modules are loading (prism2_usb), wireless-tools are installed, but it wont' activate the device for some reason :(
[08:53] <blindx> it won't activate?
[08:53] <sobbbber> Frogzoo: what exactly do i type?.. sorry i'm new w/ these things.
[08:53] <johanbr> Strayhikari: Anything in dmesg just after you load the modules?
[08:53] <Frogzoo> Strayhikari: sure you've got the right device name? it's sometimes wlan0, sometimes eth1 etc.
[08:54] <Strayhikari> well, when I try a command like iwconfig wlan0 Essid myessid it gives me this error,
[08:54] <Frogzoo> Strayhikari: what do you get from 'sudo iwconfig' ?
[08:55] <Strayhikari> "error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) : SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not permitted
[08:55] <Strayhikari> it says wlan0 has no wireless extentions
[08:55] <Strayhikari> *extensions
[08:55] <Madpilot> need sleep - later, all, don't let the spambots bite :P
[08:56] <blindx> try eth1, Strayhikari
[08:56] <johanbr> Strayhikari: Does ifconfig -a say anything about a wlan0 interface?
[08:57] <pvd2006> only two more months until the next new release of Ubuntu right?
[08:57] <Strayhikari> Johanbr: it says its just another connection with no address MAC or IP
[08:57] <Strayhikari> Blindx: trying
[08:57] <GTroy> hey guys, I'm thinking about a laptop to compliment my dekstop.  for cheap where should I start?
[08:57] <Strayhikari> failed with same error Blindx
[08:57] <GTroy> this maybe offtopic
[08:58] <FlannelKing> GTroy: so, ask in -offtopic ;)
[08:58] <blindx> do a iwconfig, Strayhikari ... anything that doesn't say "no wireless extensions" ?
[08:58] <johanbr> Strayhikari: What *does* it print for wlan0? Is there a line saying "Link encap:" ?
[08:58] <GTroy> FlannelKing: I think I'd get better support here :(
[08:58] <Frogzoo> Strayhikari: radio extensions needs to show up with 'iwconfig' if not, check /var/log/messages for driver problems
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> pvd2006: June 1 is what I hear.
[08:58] <GTroy> and it's not too offtopic
[08:58] <Strayhikari> Blindx: nope all 4 of the connections listed say that (eth0, wlan0, sit0 and loopback)
[08:59] <Frogzoo> g2g
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> GTroy: for cheap, try Dell -- but this does belong in -offtopic
[08:59] <pvd2006> fyrestrtr, cool I heard it's goign to have a lot of improvements
[08:59] <Strayhikari> Johan: Link encap:Ethernet
[08:59] <GTroy> thanks fyrestrtr
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> pvd2006: well you would hope, since its the next version up :)
[08:59] <Strayhikari> Frog: checking
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> pvd2006: its not Windows
[08:59] <pvd2006> ha, yeah
[09:01] <pvd2006> when it gets updated to the new release, do you have to reburn it or can you just update it through the internet?
[09:01] <FlannelKing> pvd2006: internet
[09:01] <pvd2006> thats good.
[09:02] <FlannelKing> pvd2006: it's just like the security updates/etc.  except a lot more packages.
[09:02] <pvd2006> I See. sounds good.
[09:02] <sobbbber> how will i format an SD card in a card reader (acts as flash disk) in ubuntu?
[09:03] <johanbr> Strayhikari: Alright, so you at least have an interface. Does "dmesg |grep -i prism" tell you anything interesting?
[09:03] <sobbbber> help please.. i'm new w/ these things e.
[09:03] <stjepan> do you know any .deb editors?
[09:04] <akonkwa> Can anyone help me trhough installing Java 5.0 on my computer so I can use it with eclipse?
[09:04] <johanbr> sobbbber: You got an answer before: with fdisk and mkfs.
[09:04] <GTroy> what's the ubuntu xgl channel?
[09:04] <bimberi> !xgl
[09:04] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[09:04] <sobbbber> how will i use fdisk and mkfs?
[09:04] <GTroy> thanks bimeri
[09:04] <GTroy> bimberi
[09:04] <Strayhikari> Johan: just that it is loaded
[09:04] <bimberi> GTroy: yw :)
[09:04] <Strayhikari> didn't find any problems in /var/log/message either
[09:04] <blindx> what to do after sudo make install ??
[09:05] <stjepan> what type of archive is .deb? bz2, tar, tar.gz or what?
[09:05] <blindx> it's a deb
[09:05] <pvd2006> its .deb
[09:05] <stjepan> I want to remove one file from my deb
[09:05] <stjepan> I checkinstalled qemu
[09:06] <stjepan> and there's one file which I want to remove
[09:06] <blindx> try opening it with archive manager. no guarantees.
[09:06] <Strayhikari> Anyone have any other ideas?
[09:06] <thoreauputic> stjepan: dpkg -x/destination/directory will uncompress a deb
[09:06] <johanbr> stjepan: It's an ar archive with tar.gz files inside.
[09:06] <thoreauputic> umm - space after -x
[09:06] <stjepan> here's the error:
[09:06] <stjepan> dpkg: error processing qemu_0.8.0-1_i386.deb (--install):
[09:06] <stjepan>  trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.15-20-686/modules.usbmap', which is also in package linux-image-2.6.15-20-686
[09:07] <blindx> can someone help me install gimpshop? :x
[09:07] <thoreauputic> stjepan: I suggest using the script on the qemu wiki page
[09:07] <thoreauputic> !qemu
[09:07] <ubotu> methinks qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[09:07] <thoreauputic> hmm
[09:08] <thoreauputic> actually it might be under kqemu
[09:08] <thoreauputic> aha - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KQEmu
[09:10] <thoreauputic> ubotu, kqemu is to install qemu with the non-free kernel module for speed, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KQEmu
[09:10] <ubotu> ...but kqemu is already something else...
[09:10] <thoreauputic> ah OK
[09:10] <thoreauputic> !kqemu
[09:10] <thoreauputic> hmm long factoid...
[09:11] <stjepan> thoreauputic: who's ubotu?
[09:11] <stjepan> is he really a bot?
[09:11] <slavik> the resident AI
[09:11] <thoreauputic> stjepan: a bot
[09:11] <thoreauputic> !ubotu
[09:11] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[09:11] <stjepan> and he's so smart?
[09:11] <slavik> he is the 10 bn USD culmination into AI research
[09:11] <blindx> ..ubotu is the smartest bot I've ever seen
[09:11] <thoreauputic> stjepan: he only knows what he's told :)
[09:12] <stjepan> thoreauputic: but you told him something and he replied quite well
[09:12] <slavik> blindx is 100bn of AI research ... hence 10x smarter than ubotu
[09:12] <Phlosten> slavik, hope someone claimed it as a tax deduction
[09:12] <slavik> Phlosten: I did :)
[09:12] <thoreauputic> stjepan: yes, he's programmed to say that if the factoid exists
[09:12] <blindx> ubotu's got me beat, please :P
[09:13] <sobbbber> what's the command for delete?
[09:13] <slavik> !me
[09:13] <ubotu> slavik: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:13] <slavik> rm?
[09:13] <thoreauputic> stjepan: the script on the kqemu page works well - I used it to install qemu here
[09:13] <valehru> hmm..
[09:14] <stjepan> thoreauputic: didn't work for me
[09:14] <valehru> cannot seem to open synaptic package manager at all..
[09:14] <thoreauputic> sobbbber: delete what?
[09:14] <stjepan> btw, there's a bug with it
[09:14] <valehru> its just not responding
[09:14] <stjepan> you must compile qemu with gcc-3.4 and kqemu with gcc-4.0
[09:14] <thoreauputic> stjepan: not so
[09:14] <valehru> sudo apt-get install azarus ; just asks me for the root password and then does nothing...no output or anything
[09:15] <thoreauputic> stjepan: if you look at the script you'll see that it compile swith gcc-3.4
[09:15] <blindx> azarus? :P
[09:15] <blindx> try azureus
[09:15] <sobbbber> thoreauputic: deleting a file
[09:15] <thoreauputic> stjepan: you must use the same compiler for both kernel and module
[09:15] <stjepan> thoreauputic: yeah, but, kqemu must be compiled with 4.0
[09:15] <blindx> rm file
[09:15] <blake_ubuntu> hi, im building a new system for the new dapper drake comming out
[09:15] <valehru> still nothing blindx
[09:15] <thoreauputic> stjepan: again, no
[09:15] <valehru> valehru@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install azureus
[09:15] <valehru> valehru@ubuntu:~$
[09:15] <blake_ubuntu> i have chose the antec p180 case but i dont know where to go from there
[09:15] <slavik> blake_ubuntu: you can use your old one :D
[09:16] <blake_ubuntu> well...
[09:16] <slavik> blake_ubuntu: Lian PC75 :D
[09:16] <slavik> Athlon FX60
[09:16] <blake_ubuntu> isnt it a memory hog and needs a nice videocard?
[09:16] <blindx> valehru, what happens when you do a sudo apt-get update  ?
[09:16] <slavik> 4GB of RAM
[09:16] <sobbbber> thoreauputic: how about deleting a directory?
[09:16] <blindx> rmdir dirname
[09:16] <valehru> nothing
[09:16] <blake_ubuntu> no
[09:16] <slavik> blake_ubuntu: you are thinking of windows
[09:16] <valehru> no output or anything
[09:16] <blake_ubuntu> a gig of 3200 shoudl be fine
[09:16] <slavik> blake_ubuntu: NO!!!
[09:16] <valehru> just returns back to the promp...no output..
[09:16] <thoreauputic> sobbbber: rmdir if empty, rm -rf if not
[09:17] <blindx> valehru, I haven't a clue.
[09:17] <blake_ubuntu> ?
[09:17] <CypherInc> Whats going on?
[09:17] <slavik> 4GB of OCZ DDR500
[09:17] <thoreauputic> sobbbber: but be careful with rm -rf
[09:17] <slavik> 2 7900GTX in SLI
[09:17] <stjepan> thoreauputic: cd qemu-* && rm /usr/bin/gcc && ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc && make && cd kqemu && make clean && rm /usr/bin/gcc && ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 /usr/bin/gcc && make && cd .. && checkinstall -y
[09:17] <valehru> go for the OCZ....thats nice RAM
[09:17] <blindx> better off just cleaning the directory first with rm dirname/*
[09:17] <slavik> umm, VAPOCHILL!!!
[09:17] <blake_ubuntu> slavik, that is so dam pointless
[09:17] <hulleye> Hi, need some help setting up a Samsung SCX-4216f printer with Breezy
[09:17] <slavik> what?
[09:17] <blindx> be very very very careful if you go the route of rm -rf
[09:18] <blake_ubuntu> im looking to spend 800 on th system
[09:18] <CypherInc> I have a question, what the hell is Breezy?
[09:18] <blake_ubuntu> not 5000
[09:18] <blindx> lmfao CypherInc
[09:18] <hulleye> as in Ubuntu 5.10
[09:18] <CypherInc> :)
[09:18] <CypherInc> roger :)
[09:18] <abhinav> rs232 programming linux.any idea?
[09:18] <Phlosten> Ubuntu Breezy 5.10
[09:18] <blindx> breezy describes what the wind outside is doing
[09:18] <CypherInc> Sorry, im new to Linux and Ubuntu
[09:19] <CypherInc> I came from FreeBSD, and windows
[09:19] <thoreauputic> stjepan: how can a module compiled with gcc 4 be compatible with a kernel compiled with gcc-3.4 ? genuine question...
[09:19] <slavik> CypherInc: when you find out what 'Breezy" is ... lmk :)
[09:19] <CypherInc> breezy, also the name of a great stripper at this dirty little club around the corner from my old apartment :)
[09:19] <slavik> CypherInc: FreeBSD ftw:D
[09:19] <stjepan> thoreauputic: if I compile it with gcc-3.4, I'll get error with modprobing kqemu: invalid module format
[09:19] <blindx> CypherInc, speaking from very recent experience: ask the question, even if you feel stupid.
[09:19] <slavik> CypherInc: she hot?
[09:20] <slavik> blindx: he did
[09:20] <blindx> in general, slavik
[09:20] <blindx> not just the one
[09:20] <slavik> oh, ok
[09:20] <CypherInc> blind, I find I feel stupid most of the time I spend reading ubuntu stuff, because its all just differnt enough that I have to look/ask :)
[09:20] <BlackBishop> hi people, anyone can help me with a lil' wireless problem ?
[09:20] <thoreauputic> stjepan: well, all I can tell you is that following the wiki and using the script worked fine here
[09:20] <CypherInc> slavik, she was this great little brunet with perky, uhm, assets :)
[09:20] <blindx> !tell BlackBishop about wifi
[09:20] <slavik> was?
[09:20] <slavik> isn't anymore?
[09:20] <CypherInc> well
[09:21] <slavik> where you live?
[09:21] <CypherInc> I havent been in 6 years
[09:21] <slavik> hmm
[09:21] <BlackBishop> I get something about SET failed on device wlan0 ; Argument list too long.
[09:21] <CypherInc> I live outside of Pittsburgh, this was in Chicago
[09:21] <slavik> oh, nvm
[09:21] <blindx> BlackBishop, when trying to do what?
[09:21] <stjepan> thoreauputic: but not for me ;)
[09:21] <thoreauputic> stjepan: evidently
[09:21] <BlackBishop> all I do is iwconfig wlan0 mode managed
[09:21] <thoreauputic> :(
[09:22] <BlackBishop> hmm .. how do I make my key in hex ?
[09:22] <CypherInc> so, I got one for you guys, my buddy is running this really neat web interface for Amarok, is that built into Amarok by default, or is that an addon of some sort?
[09:22] <BlackBishop> I tried copy/paste the text in mceditor and then f4 or f3 to hexify it
[09:22] <blindx> BlackBishop, ever considered using the gui?
[09:22] <slavik> yes
[09:22] <CypherInc> is that like 7? :)
[09:22] <BlackBishop> what guy ? :D
[09:22] <blindx> haha.
[09:22] <slavik> no
[09:22] <blindx> system > administration > networking
[09:23] <slavik> maybe
[09:23] <CypherInc> ok
[09:23] <CypherInc> good
[09:23] <blindx> 2 penny culmination haha
[09:23] <blindx> i like that
[09:23] <slavik> NO!!!
[09:24] <slavik> CypherInc: you believe in god?
[09:24] <CypherInc> Uhm
[09:24] <slavik> yes or no
[09:24] <CypherInc> odd question for a linux room
[09:24] <CypherInc> The quick easy answer is no
[09:24] <slavik> hmm, CypherInc, you sure?
[09:25] <CypherInc> yes
[09:25] <CypherInc> most deffintly
[09:25] <blindx> you're going to hell!
[09:25] <blindx> lol just kidding
[09:25] <slavik> CypherInc: then you're an accident :P
[09:25] <hulleye> blindx or slavik: could anyone here help me out with setting up a printer... am a complete newbie to Ubuntu and the Linux world in general
[09:25] <thoreauputic> guys, religious discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:25] <CypherInc> Hey, go to heaven for the view, go to hell for the conversations :)
[09:25] <slavik> we're not discussing religion :P
[09:25] <blindx> lol why do you pick my name? I just started this last week :P
[09:25] <CypherInc> were simply calirifying and verifying :)
[09:25] <thoreauputic> *cough* /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:25] <slavik> yes
[09:26] <hulleye> blindx: you were being nice enough about the wifi prob :)
[09:26] <thoreauputic> just that these sorts of discussions tend to escalate
[09:26] <blake_ubuntu> what is the best amd motherboard?
[09:26] <BlackBishop> hmm .. it's a wpa key ( TKIP )
[09:26] <CypherInc> would not want to get in the way of some one explaining ls again
[09:26] <slavik> hulleye: can't help, I still can't get my printer working through samba
[09:26] <blindx> !printer
[09:26] <ubotu> I guess printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[09:26] <thoreauputic> CypherInc: heheh
[09:27] <blindx> BlackBishop, there's instructions on how to hook up WPA keys at... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto
[09:27] <blake_ubuntu> ?
[09:27] <hulleye> blindx: been through those... no help there
[09:27] <BlackBishop> >:)
[09:27] <hulleye> slavik: :(
[09:27] <BlackBishop> why is it https ?
[09:27] <blindx> cause it's secure.
[09:27] <slavik> it's not the realpage
[09:28] <slavik> that page will offer you breast implants and lots of drugs
[09:28] <blindx> mostly drugs.
[09:28] <blindx> sorry hulleye: the only reason i help out the wifi people is cause i had major problems setting up my wifi, so now i know my way around it :P
[09:29] <blindx> but i don't know much about anything else.
[09:29] <Strayhikari> You have any more ideas for me Blind?
[09:29] <hulleye> blindx: ah well... thanks anyway
[09:29] <BlackBishop> :))
[09:29] <blindx> Strayhikari, you have no wireless extensions, right?
[09:30] <Strayhikari> that is what iwconfig says
[09:30] <blindx> Well then the only thing I can think of..
[09:30] <Strayhikari> How do I get them/
[09:30] <blindx> is that your card isn't set up properly.
[09:30] <Strayhikari> you know a way I could configure it/
[09:30] <BlackBishop> it says here : sudo wpa_supplicant -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w
[09:30] <BlackBishop> I don't use madwifi
[09:30] <blindx> been through the wiki, Strayhikari ?
[09:31] <BlackBishop> or ndiswrapper
[09:31] <BlackBishop> I have a x-micro card
[09:31] <BlackBishop> zd1211
[09:31] <Strayhikari> yessum
[09:31] <Strayhikari> although the wiki doesn't really say much
[09:32] <blindx> the wiki doesn't say much?
[09:32] <blindx> you're not reading it correctly, then
[09:32] <blindx> lol
[09:32] <Strayhikari> just where to get a driver, however for me dapper autodetected and setup my module
[09:32] <blindx> Strayhikari, you're on dapper?
[09:32] <Strayhikari> well I came from archlinux, where the wiki told me which conf files in etc to edit to setup essid and everything on boot line for line
[09:33] <Strayhikari> all the wiki says int eh 'setup' section is to get a driver, and lists some
[09:33] <Strayhikari> yes I'm on 6.06
[09:33] <blindx> have you been toooo #ubuntu+1 ?
[09:33] <BlackBishop> hmm .. -Dzd1211 says Unsupported driver 'zd1211'.
[09:33] <Strayhikari> I'm in ubuntu+1
[09:34] <Strayhikari> Just kind of frustrated, maybe my card is shot :-/
[09:36] <coreid> I have a aironet 350 miniPCI card which is not working with current 2.6.15-20-686 kernel on Dapper, anybody else having similar issues ?
[09:36] <ajmitch> Seveas: as long as you're around to deal with the spambots again
[09:36] <Seveas> ajmitch, yep
[09:36] <slavik> Seveas: yippeee :D
[09:36] <Seveas> I have the +R trigger loaded and ready to fire
[09:37] <Seveas> along with Mr. T's pity blaster
[09:39] <CypherInc> Question: How do I remove the defualt gimp instalation?
[09:40] <Seveas> apt-get remove gimp
[09:40] <CypherInc> anyone use gimp-shop?
[09:40] <Phlosten> i am installing new gimp atm
[09:40] <CypherInc> atm?
[09:41] <CypherInc> oh
[09:41] <CypherInc> disreguard :)
[09:41] <thoreauputic> CypherInc: *someone* must I guess ;-)
[09:41] <slavik> ahh pity da fool who think mr. t only says 'ahh pity da fool'
[09:41] <CypherInc> any great new features in the new gimp, or is it bug fixes?
[09:41] <slavik> Seveas: what is the best way for ubuntu to see more recent packages?
[09:41] <slavik> ie: blender 2.41 instead of 2.37a
[09:42] <slavik> and such
[09:42] <Seveas> !info blender dapper
[09:42] <ubotu> blender: (Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer), section graphics, is optional. Version: 2.41-1ubuntu4 (dapper), Packaged size: 4734 kB, Installed size: 12588 kB
[09:42] <slavik> maybe an anjuta 2.0.1 package?
[09:42] <Seveas> upgrade to dapper 
[09:42] <slavik> grr, backports?
[09:42] <slavik> grr
[09:42] <Seveas> breezy will not receive new versions
[09:42] <BlackBishop> DAMN TKIP .. and wpa .. and grrrrrrrrrrrrr
[09:42] <BlackBishop> driving me nuts !!!!
[09:43] <slavik> wifi-radar
[09:43] <ompaul> thoreauputic, good morning
[09:43] <slavik> Seveas: you know if network manager will handle wpa-eap?
[09:43] <BlackBishop> if I specify iwconfig wlan0 key normal_key .. .it said invalid argument
[09:43] <thoreauputic> ompaul: good evening :)
[09:43] <ompaul> !goodmorning
[09:43] <ubotu> Gooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu! It looks like another beautiful ubuntuous day, may humanity be with you and your problems be solved :)
[09:44] <slavik> BlackBishop: use wifi-radar
[09:44] <BlackBishop> if I put it in hex .. it says argument list too long ..
[09:44] <Seveas> slavik, not all eap functionality is there yet
[09:44] <thoreauputic> ompaul: are you responsile for that factoid ? :)
[09:44] <ompaul> no
[09:44] <slavik> Seveas: my college is running eap-pap ...would be nice if it was supported
[09:44] <slavik> !v2000z
[09:44] <Seveas> slavik, I'm using that too - no luck yet with NM
[09:44] <ubotu> [v2000z]  The followng wiki page has some information on fixing problems you might encounter with installing Breezy Badger on the Compaq Presario V2000Z. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/CompaqPresarioV2000Z
[09:45] <slavik> p00p
[09:45] <BlackBishop> and the wpasupplicant says something like .. driver not supported .. zd1211
[09:45] <slavik> because I can't figure out how to config wpa_supplicant and get it running ...
[09:46] <Seveas> slavik, I can give you the wpa_supplicant config for it, works fine here ;)
[09:46] <slavik> but how do I start it and such?
[09:46] <slavik> sure
[09:46] <slavik> want my email?
[09:46] <BlackBishop> I did wpa_passphrase
[09:46] <BlackBishop> it generates the file ..
[09:46] <Seveas> I'll pastebin it, one sec
[09:46] <slavik> I mean, options and such
[09:47] <Seveas> btw, config is dapper specific
[09:47] <slavik> isn't NM a front end for wpa_supplicant, too?
[09:47] <slavik> oh, nvm then
[09:47] <BlackBishop> grrrr ..
[09:47] <Seveas> in breezy wpa_supplicant was integrated quite badly
[09:48] <slavik> I see
[09:48] <BlackBishop> I'm starting to hate ubuntu !
[09:48] <cyphase> does anyone know of any good cross platform astronomy software?
[09:48] <BlackBishop> I'm trying since yesterday to make it work !
[09:48] <slavik> BlackBishop: use wireless connection manager
[09:48] <cyphase> i've already got celestia and stellarium
[09:48] <Seveas> BlackBishop, then try another distro, distrowatch has enough optioins for you 
[09:48] <BlackBishop> Seveas, well .. also have a fedora on a lappie ..
[09:48] <BlackBishop> samn freakin' thing !
[09:49] <slavik> like mandriva with urpmi
[09:49] <BlackBishop> NO WAY i'm using mandriva
[09:49] <BlackBishop> it sux .. hard !
[09:49] <slavik> just don't update urpmi with urpmi ...
[09:49] <cyphase> mandriva? it's still named mandriva?
[09:49] <slavik> BlackBishop: that's good ;)
[09:49] <BlackBishop> wpa_supplicant-0.4.8-7.fc5
[09:49] <Seveas> cyphase, it's mandrova, past tense ;)
[09:49] <slavik> rofl
[09:49] <BlackBishop> [root@BooB init.d] # lsmod | grep -i zd
[09:49] <BlackBishop> zd1211                262812  0
[09:50] <cyphase> :D
[09:50] <BlackBishop> my other network works just fine ..
[09:50] <concept10> was anyone else banned from #debian today?
[09:50] <stjepan> anyone here interested in developing a wm?
[09:51] <cge> concept10, why?
[09:51] <Seveas> stjepan, we have enough of those already 
[09:51] <stjepan> Seveas: but none of them are ok
[09:51] <stjepan> :P
[09:52] <Seveas> stjepan, then fix one of them ;)
[09:52] <Phlosten> stjepan, develop another distro while you are at it, just to add another one of those too
[09:52] <slavik> stjepan: let's develop a virtual strip club ... there aren't any at all :(
[09:52] <stjepan> Seveas: no, it is better to start developing a new one
[09:52] <stjepan> no
[09:52] <cge> stjepan, have you looked at all of the current ones?
[09:52] <JPapciak> Anyone care to help a complete Linux idiot/newcomer?  I installed Ubuntu last night, had it running, went to Windows to do something, came back and it appears to load correctly, but when it is upposed to reach the desktop, it just goes to a black screen.
[09:52] <Seveas> Phlosten, don't forget the obligatory new text editor
[09:52] <concept10> cge, I was banned for no reason, maybe because of the attacks on freenode.  I havent typed a sentence in there in a couple of weeks.  Xchat just automatically connects to the channel for me
[09:52] <slavik> e17 will be nice supposedly
[09:52] <stjepan> I am sick of all these mousy-wimp WMs
[09:53] <cge> stjepan, try wmii-3
[09:53] <Phlosten> Seveas, indeed, you can never have too many text editors.....
[09:53] <slavik> Seveas: would be nice if changing wm in gnome was easier ...
[09:53] <Seveas> slavik, ./wm --replace
[09:53] <slavik> Seveas: will it keep the system -> prefs link to the new wm config?
[09:54] <BlackBishop> .... I'm as close as I can get to throwing my computers out the window
[09:54] <stjepan> cge: I saw it and it's great, but I want to make a wm like WMII, but with eye-candy
[09:54] <Seveas> probably not
[09:54] <slavik> exactly
[09:54] <johanbr> Anyone developed a wm that can send e-mail yet? :)
[09:54] <stjepan> I'm gonna kill XGL and Compiz with my WM :)
[09:54] <BlackBishop> what the heck is so hard setting a key for a network
[09:54] <Seveas> compiz is quite bad
[09:54] <slavik> BlackBishop: use wireless connection manager
[09:54] <BlackBishop> kwifimanager ?
[09:54] <slavik> no
[09:55] <slavik> Seveas: what's the package name for wireless connection manager applet?
[09:55] <slavik> BlackBishop: you in gnome or kde?
[09:55] <BlackBishop> kde
[09:55] <stjepan> Seveas: I want to bring easy-to-useness, eye-candyness, featurness and speedness together
[09:55] <cge> stjepan, err, ok. Asking about this in the #ubuntu channel is probably a bad idea. I doubt many people here besides myself use wmii. I would suggest starting from a base like wmii-3 (the development version, which doesn't use all the plan9 stuff), instead of trying to start completely anew.
[09:55] <spikeb> in other words, you want emacs as a window manager
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[09:55] <Seveas> slavik, no idea, I don't use those things because they don't do wpa 
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[09:56] <stjepan> SPAM
[09:56] <cge> er
[09:56] <Phlosten> arg
[09:56] <slavik> wow
[09:56] <Seveas> and the f*ers are back
[09:56] <BlackBishop> that's lame
[09:56] <ajmitch> Seveas: nice quick reactions :)
[09:56] <ompaul> Seveas, nice catch
[09:56] <thoreauputic> unimaginative spam at that
[09:56] <Seveas> ajmitch, way too slow
[09:56] <Phlosten> quick shot Seveas to the rescue
[09:56] <stjepan> and it won't be completely new, I will use PyWM base
[09:56] <ajmitch> might be worth leaving it +R for awhile, as annoying as it is
[09:57] <topyli> stjepan: try gnome with gimmie. not wimp, concentrates on objects
[09:57] <slavik> BlackBishop: you in gnome or kde?
[09:57] <BlackBishop> KDE
[09:57] <cge> concept10, I could ask about it on #debian if you want me to.
[09:57] <topyli> stjepan: like jdub puts it, "people, events, documents, and getting laid"
[09:57] <stjepan> topyli: I want to control everything with keyboard only
[09:57] <slavik> BlackBishop: then try kwifimanager
[09:57] <BlackBishop> I am
[09:57] <slavik> I like "getting laid"
[09:57] <slavik> time for me to sleep, night all
[09:57] <concept10> cge, do that for me please
[09:58] <BlackBishop> I click on settings ..
[09:58] <johanbr>  topyli: Exactly what is that supposed to be a list of? :)
[09:58] <topyli> stjepan: you can do it with current window managers. enlightenment(16) and ratpoison at least
[09:58] <BlackBishop> and then on configuration editor
[09:58] <BlackBishop> I click on "Use encryption"
[09:58] <BlackBishop> click on configure
[09:58] <topyli> johanbr: it's a list of things users care about, as opposed to "sindows, icons, menus, and pointers" :)
[09:58] <BlackBishop> and I see .. Key to use "1" Crypto mode ( open shared ) crypto keys 1 2 3 4
[09:58] <stjepan> topyli: they are not good enough
[09:59] <BlackBishop> I only have a normal tkip key .. of 19 chars
[09:59] <topyli> stjepan: improve them
[09:59] <cge> stjepan, I would certainly be interested in seeing any development on it.
[09:59] <stjepan> topyli: I want Python, not C, not C++
[09:59] <johanbr> topyli: "sindows" ? Does that have something to do with the "getting laid" part? :)
[10:00] <stjepan> why python? - because of development speed
[10:00] <Seveas> @reload exploitban
[10:00] <Ubugtu> Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
[10:00] <Seveas> Ubugtu, die!
[10:01] <topyli> johanbr: it just means you shouldn't waste your time fiddling with your user interface. you should just get people, events, objects, and laid
[10:01] <Seveas> #fazlamesai
[10:01] <Seveas> wee 
[10:01] <topyli> johanbr: that's why the new experimental interface is called "gimmie"
[10:02] <BlackBishop> ok, should I throw out my computer or not ?
[10:02] <Seveas> BlackBishop, probably
[10:02] <BlackBishop> noone's helping making that damn connection to a TKIP crypted AP
[10:02] <topyli> johanbr, stjepan: but this is #ubuntu-offtopic stuff
[10:02] <hyphenated> BlackBishop: it's a tricky thing to get working perfectly
[10:02] <Seveas> BlackBishop, does your driver do wpa via wext?
[10:02] <BlackBishop> I don't need it to work perfectly ..
[10:03] <BlackBishop> I just want it to work
[10:03] <hyphenated> BlackBishop: it should be easy, but the tools in place these days are oriented around WEP not WPA
[10:03] <Seveas> if not: either use ndiswrapper or use wep
[10:03] <BlackBishop> Seveas, what's wext ?
[10:03] <Seveas> BlackBishop, try -Dwext as argument to wpasupplicant
[10:03] <BlackBishop> can't use wep .. the damn accesspoint is using WPA-PSK ( TKIP )
[10:03] <hyphenated> BlackBishop: what type of wireless card/driver are you using?
[10:04] <Seveas> hyphenated, zd1211 oslt
[10:04] <BlackBishop> ok .. this is weird
[10:04] <fart> where can i download PyGtk-2
[10:04] <BlackBishop> I did wpa_supplicant -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext -w
[10:04] <BlackBishop> and I don't get any message
[10:04] <BlackBishop> should I be getting any ?
[10:05] <hyphenated> fart: what package manager tool are you using?
[10:05] <fart> synaptic
[10:05] <johanbr> BlackBishop: I'll try to refrain from making a pun on your last message. What does "sudo wpa_cli status" say?
[10:05] <hyphenated> fart: there should be a little 'search' area in it. type in pygtk and see what comes up
[10:06] <BlackBishop> ow :P
[10:06] <fart> cantt find it in search
[10:06] <captainredbeard> I installed the kubuntu-desktop package on ubuntu for a while, but decided to change back, but now all my fonts in ubuntu look different, and won't change back
[10:06] <JediMaster> hi all, quick question, is there an install cd for draper, or is it a matter of installing 5.1 and dist-ugprading?
[10:06] <zF> What command do you use to move files using ftp in term
[10:06] <zF> To move files on the remote machine
[10:06] <cge> JediMaster, a myriad of them.
[10:07] <dli> zF, why not ssh?
[10:07] <JediMaster> cge: where abouts? I couldn't see any on the ofical download page
[10:07] <BlackBishop> selected interface wlan0
[10:07] <spikeb> JediMaster, there's an install cd
[10:07] <BlackBishop> wpa_state scanning
[10:07] <BlackBishop> ip address .. 10.10....
[10:07] <test> hi all
[10:07] <JediMaster> could only find 5.10 ISOs
[10:07] <cge> JediMaster, ubuntu.com/testing.
[10:07] <BlackBishop> hmm .. ok .. I should probably move in a signal area
[10:07] <BlackBishop> wait a sec :)
[10:07] <test> i am downloading 5.10 ubuntu
[10:07] <topyli> fart: apt-cache search shows me pythong-gtk2 and python-gtk2-dev at once. nice nick by the way, could get you banned all by itself
[10:07] <JediMaster> cge: ahh thanks, there appears to be a lot of stuff on the ubuntu site that is useful, yet hiding =)
[10:07] <test> and just was wondering
[10:07] <test> whether it as all the display drivers
[10:08] <spikeb> JediMaster, heh yeah
[10:08] <test> or do i need to install them differently
[10:08] <test> can anyone plz
[10:08] <zF> dli, it's a webhosting server, not my own box. I don't have ssh
[10:08] <test> clear this for me
[10:08] <JediMaster> I presume flight 6 is the latest?
[10:08] <test> plz
[10:08] <zF> is there no command in ftp to move files?
[10:08] <hyphenated> test: it should come with something suitable by default
[10:08] <JediMaster> ok, thanks for your help guys, got to go, on the train to london =)
[10:08] <test> and network drivers as well
[10:08] <spikeb> JediMaster, yes
[10:08] <dli> zF: mv
[10:08] <hyphenated> test: but if you have a 3D graphics card, you may need to do some extra work after installation to enable 3D features
[10:09] <feugan3333> Hi all. Does anyone know how to upgrade python modules on ubuntu? When it try to use the standard "python setup.py install" method, I get the following error message: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile
[10:09] <JediMaster> and late for work, train derailed this morning lol
[10:09] <test> na, mine is a s3 trio 3d/2x
[10:09] <zF> dli, that's an invalid command while using ftp
[10:09] <test> its relatively old
[10:09] <dli> zF: try lftp
[10:09] <hyphenated> test: it should have drivers for almost everything. boot a live-cd if you can afford the bandwidth and a spare blank CD ;-)
[10:09] <ajmitch> feugan3333: install python2.4-dev
[10:09] <topyli> test: nothing comes with all drivers. ubuntu will have a sane set of drivers to get you going, and you can get more advanced drivers later if you need them
[10:09] <cafuego> feugan3333: Installing unpackaged python stuff isn't  agreat idea.
[10:09] <test> oh ok
[10:09] <ajmitch> feugan3333: iirc it has the necessary stuff for distutils
[10:10] <test> is their any site where i can find drivers or this ver of linux
[10:10] <test> as all i found is win
[10:10] <zF> dli, nothing
[10:10] <test> everywhere
[10:10] <hyphenated> test: try the live cd first, if you're really worried about it
[10:10] <test> ok
[10:10] <BlackBishop> weird .. no signal .. no network ..
[10:10] <hyphenated> test: linux doesn't have the same dependency on driver vendors as windows does
[10:10] <BlackBishop> and I have about 3 networks around ..
[10:10] <dli> test, you type too many enters, try to speak in sentences
[10:10] <johanbr> BlackBishop: Found this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-92327.html . You can ignore everything above the line that says "connecting to an open network", but the rest looks good.
[10:10] <test> thanks very much hyphenated, topyli
[10:10] <topyli> test: on linux, you rarely hunt for drivers or software on the web. you have it all available with a couple of handy commands
[10:11] <feugan3333> cafuego: Why not
[10:11] <test> oh ok
[10:11] <test> may be i need to come back again for this
[10:11] <BlackBishop> ok .. I'm boobling it :D
[10:11] <test> ok its 553 mb done
[10:11] <test> still 130 mb remaining
[10:11] <test> i am downloading 5.10
[10:11] <cafuego> feugan3333: What happens when an upgraded package tries to write a file that suddenly already exists?
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[10:12] <hyphenated> not fast enough, Seveas ;-)
[10:12] <cafuego> wqa*: clever boy
[10:12] <Seveas> hyphenated, faster than a human could be
[10:12] <hyphenated> true. I'm happier that it's just half a screen full now, rather than how it was earlier
[10:13] <dli> Seveas, can you block the string? since this one sends the same string
[10:13] <cafuego> faster than one of your stoned dutch humans maybe ;-)
[10:13] <elkbuntu> topyli, dont, they're seemingly innocent
[10:13] <johanbr> I wish proxad would do something about all the spambots on their network.
[10:13] <elkbuntu> it's as much an attack on them as our eyes
[10:13] <topyli> elkbuntu: the power of repetition is too much
[10:13] <cafuego> elkbuntu: If they don't do anything, their entire network will end up being k-lined.
[10:13] <Seveas> cafuego, don't make me come over to down under and use my cluebat on you :
[10:13] <feugan3333> cafuego: Unfortunetly, I'm not left with much choice, since the current version of the module that I want to use is somewhat broken.
[10:13] <thoreauputic> topyli: the Goebbels effect ?
[10:14] <elkbuntu> cafuego, it's not the channel people's fault
[10:14] <topyli> thoreauputic: yeah :)
[10:14] <cafuego> feugan3333: Which python are you using? 2.3? There may be a python-2.4 package.
[10:14] <BlackBishop> thanks johanbr I'll brb and tell you the results :D
[10:15] <feugan3333> cafuego: No I'm using python 2.4
[10:15] <cafuego> feugan3333: ah ok
[10:15] <blindx> aw man
[10:16] <blindx> i was gonna go to bed two hours ago
[10:16] <blindx> now im never gonna get up in the morning
[10:16] <spikeb> heh blindx
[10:16] <Phlosten> there is that point in the night after you become tired, where you start to become more awake and going to bed is pointless
[10:16] <blindx> not to mention i haven't written any of my essay
[10:16] <concept10> blindx, I said the same thing two hours ago
[10:17] <hyphenated> Phlosten: it passes quickly
[10:17] <concept10> as soon as I finish this css, im gone
[10:17] <blindx> nn all
[10:18] <feugan3333> cafuego: Well I found a workaround :-) Just copy the new package files into the same directory as your script and it will use that package instead of the system package. Anyways thanks for your help.
[10:18] <cafuego> feugan3333: neet :-)
[10:19] <cafuego> Ugh, don't you hate it when OCR software pr0duc35 newspeak?
[10:21] <Seveas> cafuego, you mean 0R
[10:21] <topyli> we need working ocr. it's very sad today
[10:23] <topyli> of course, if the old prints were more readable, ocr would have a bigger chance of success too
[10:25] <BlackBishop> damn wpa .. unsuported module zydas
[10:27] <johanbr> BlackBishop: Well, it's time for me to hit the hay, but if you can't get the native drivers working with wpa, I'd suggest ndiswrapper. That works fine for me.
[10:27] <BlackBishop> does ndiswrapper support zd1211 stuff ?
[10:28] <cyphase> wow, the Google Summer of Code FAQ mentions Ubuntu
[10:29] <cyphase> and python. i guess because they use both :p
[10:29] <johanbr> BlackBishop: According to a quick google, yes. Well, gotta run. Good night, and good luck. :)
[10:29] <BlackBishop> thanks
[10:29] <BlackBishop> seeyah
[10:31] <Overand> Util to convert "DOS" format text files into "Linux" format?
[10:32] <thoreauputic> Overand: sysutils
[10:32] <thoreauputic> dos2unix
[10:32] <thoreauputic> sysutils: usr/bin/dos2unix
[10:32] <zblach> Util to convert "MPC" format music files into "MP3" format?
[10:33] <thoreauputic> !info sysutils
[10:33] <ubotu> sysutils: (Miscellaneous small system utilities.), section utils, is optional. Version: 1.3.8.5.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 40 kB, Installed size: 156 kB
[10:33] <thoreauputic> what is mpc format?
[10:33] <zblach> i'm not entirely sure
[10:33] <zblach> another media encoder, i'm guessing
[10:34] <zblach> it's not a typo, mpc run fine in xmms, but not as mp3
[10:34] <thoreauputic> ah - musepack
[10:34] <nathanj> zblach: http://www.filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=mpc
[10:35] <zblach> i can run 'em, but i wouldn't mind putting it on my iPod, which, unfortunately, has very little support for anything other than mp3
[10:35] <zblach> and rockbox is still a little unstable
[10:37] <Overand> thoreauputic: can I get that to recurse directories?
[10:37] <Overand> This is turning out to be a pain
[10:37] <Overand> heh
[10:37] <thoreauputic> Overand: I've never used it - try the man page
[10:38] <thoreauputic> Overand: I found it with  apt-file search dos2unix
[10:38] <noiesmo> hey how can i see how much traffic/ bandwidth a web conection is using
[10:38] <nathanj> zblach: tryed just renaming the file to .mp3?
[10:38] <thoreauputic> noiesmo: iptop perhaps
[10:39] <thoreauputic> sorry iftop
[10:40] <noiesmo> thoreauputic, thanks
[10:42] <Pr0phetiK> Hello! I'm a bit new with Linux..
[10:42] <Pr0phetiK> Could anyone help me troubleshoot something really quick, if it wasn't too much trouble? :(
[10:42] <vinboy> kde channel is getting flooded
[10:42] <noiesmo> thoreauputic, is there a way to get apache to ban an ip address
[10:42] <jadacyrus> if i want cron to run chkrootkit and updatedb I should use root's crontab isntead of my user right?
[10:43] <thoreauputic> noiesmo: don't knw, sorry - why not just use iptables/ firewall ?
[10:43] <noiesmo> jadacyrus, yes
[10:43] <jadacyrus> k cool
[10:43] <noiesmo> thoreauputic, just want to do it temp but iptables could be the go
[10:44] <Pr0phetiK> I just installed Ubuntu 5.10 onto my box (Opteron 170, 2GB DDR, GeForce 7800GT, 2 IDE HDD, 2 DVD, NVRAID), and after the login screen, I get the blank brownish background with a scrambled white box.. does anyone know why?
[10:44] <Henk> noiesmo, look at "deny from"
[10:45] <noiesmo> Henk, yes
[10:47] <purestrain> hello.... can someone tell me what "msttcorefonts is not available in any software channel" means? don't find any way to install msttcorefonts... it's not available in universe either
[10:48] <thoreauputic> !info msttcorefonts
[10:48] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[10:48] <jadacyrus> purestrain: I think automatix will isntall msttcorefonts for you
[10:48] <Pr0phetiK> I just installed Ubuntu 5.10 onto my box (Opteron 170, 2GB DDR, GeForce 7800GT, 2 IDE HDD, 2 DVD, NVRAID), and after the login screen, I get the blank brownish background with a scrambled white box.. does anyone know why?
[10:48] <thoreauputic> purestrain: msttcorefonts is in multiverse
[10:48] <thoreauputic> !automatix
[10:48] <ubotu> automatix is probably unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[10:48] <thoreauputic> DO NOT recommend automatix!
[10:48] <jadacyrus> woops sorry
[10:48] <thoreauputic> !easyubuntu
[10:48] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[10:49] <jadacyrus> i dont use it anyway
[10:49] <geniusvicks> I want to setup a network between my laptop running Win XP and my UBUNTU desktop, how do I do that?
[10:50] <thoreauputic> !samba
[10:50] <ubotu> samba is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[10:50] <thoreauputic> geniusvicks: read the URLs ubotu spat out above
[10:51] <Pr0phetiK> Thanks thoreauputic, I'll check it out..
[10:51] <thoreauputic> :) you're welcome
[10:51] <Pr0phetiK> :D
[10:51] <Pr0phetiK> I hope to get this up and running in a day or so :D
[10:52] <Pr0phetiK> I just realized I haven't had any sleep in 4 days.. I should get some and do this later before I mess something up :D
[10:52] <purestrain> multiverse... thanks, every page i visited told me about "universe"
[10:53] <thoreauputic> !tell purestrain about repos
[10:54] <Pr0phetiK> Ah, so thoreauputic, I should probably boot into the command line and unpack the things I need for my nVidia card..
[10:54] <Pr0phetiK> Hmm.. this is making sense.. I think.
[10:54] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[10:54] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:55] <geniusvicks> thoreauputic: those urls are about SAMBA
[10:56] <jadacyrus> wow, easyubuntu installs your video drivers for you too..impressive.. wish i knew about that before i had to do it all myself
[10:56] <thoreauputic> geniusvicks: erm - yes, networking between windows and linux
[10:56] <thoreauputic> geniusvicks: wasn't that what you asked?
[10:56] <Pr0phetiK> Ah, I checked the first nVidia link already. I'd have to get into the desktop to do that method. I'm not able to load the desktop at all, or at least it's messed up/pixelated.
[10:56] <Pr0phetiK> Yah, I'll have to check out easybuntu hehe
[10:57] <BlackBishop> how do I unload a module ?
[10:57] <jadacyrus> actually, theres this nifty install script for the latest nvidia driver i got from ubuntuforums that works like a charm
[10:57] <thoreauputic> BlackBishop: sudo rmmmod <module>
[10:57] <BlackBishop> thanks
[11:00] <stjepan> I have kubuntu installed, but I want ubuntu (with gnome) so I installed ubuntu-desktop... now how to remove KDE? kubuntu-desktop is not installed! :-o
[11:02] <BlackBishop> grrr .. and how do I "delete" a module ?
[11:02] <BlackBishop> it keeps loading if I plug the dongle back
[11:02] <thoreauputic> stjepan: I guess uninstalling kdebase would pretty much do it ( but that's a guess)
[11:04] <thoreauputic> BlackBishop: possibly put it in /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[11:05] <BlackBishop> don't have any hotplug ..
[11:05] <thoreauputic> BlackBishop: are you using breezy ?
[11:05] <thoreauputic> I have that file here on breezy
[11:05] <BlackBishop> I'm trying to make it work on another lappie
[11:05] <geniusvicks> thoreauputic: yes sorrry I thought samba was a linux distribution
[11:05] <BlackBishop> it uses fc
[11:06] <BlackBishop> I still didn't decide to move to ubuntu
[11:06] <thoreauputic> geniusvicks: heh :)
[11:06] <thoreauputic> BlackBishop: then ask in #fedora
[11:06] <P3L|C4N0> !xgl
[11:06] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[11:08] <thoreauputic> heh, #fedora and #rhel have seen better days it seems
[11:09] <thoreauputic> #redhat used to be huge...
[11:09] <BlackBishop> :)
[11:09] <stjepan> thoreauputic: I removed libqt* and works
[11:09] <thoreauputic> stjepan: yeah, that would do it ")
[11:13] <jordan82> i'm in dire need of help.  i cannot get grub configured.  i'm lost on the subject
[11:13] <C-O-L-T> Tomorrow ships out Ubuntu Dapper Drake RC1?
[11:14] <jordan82> i'm on a live cd rite now
[11:14] <protocol1> hello
[11:14] <jordan82> grub will load, but it boots into a grub console
[11:14] <thoreauputic> protocol1: hello
[11:15] <thoreauputic> protocol1: you got it :)
[11:15] <jordan82> all of my proper devices are listed in the device file to
[11:15] <protocol1> thnaks again
[11:15] <protocol1> thanks*
[11:15] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:16] <thoreauputic> protocol1: you will want to set your password etc in your IRC clinet as well
[11:16] <jordan82> what happened was i installed dapperdrake flight 6 using the espresso installer
[11:16] <thoreauputic> *client
[11:16] <jordan82> and it failed on the grub install, 3 seperate times
[11:17] <jordan82> i haven't been able to boot either windows or the completely installed linux yet
[11:17] <protocol1> hello
[11:17] <thoreauputic> protocol1: yes you still exist
[11:19] <jordan82> so what can i do to manually configure grub?
[11:19] <jordan82> i've got it to the point where it loads the grub console on boot
[11:19] <jordan82> it tells me there's no kernel tho
[11:19] <jordan82> i'm lost
[11:19] <gnomefreak> jordan82: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:20] <jordan82> gnomefreak: thanks!
[11:20] <Pr0phetiK> thoreauputic, quick question, how should I have my disk set up? Swap, and Root are the only needed types right?
[11:21] <jordan82> gnomefreak: i just have to create that file?
[11:21] <thoreauputic> Pr0phetiK: yes
[11:21] <gnomefreak> jordan82: no that file is there already thats the grub config file you wanted
[11:21] <kfarrell> Which TV card easier to set up? MSI TV@nywhere, or DVico Fusion HDTV
[11:21] <thoreauputic> Pr0phetiK: you can have forexample, a separate /home
[11:21] <thoreauputic> Pr0phetiK: but it isn't required
[11:22] <Pr0phetiK> Hmm.. so talking to jadacyrus, it seems that gnome isn't being installed correctly. The system sorda stops on the splash screen right after login.. nothing loads from there, and the mouse is the only active thingy on the screen.
[11:22] <Pr0phetiK> Ah I see
[11:23] <jordan82> gnomefreak: that file wasn't there.  i'm looking for a guide on how to write it .  thankx
[11:25] <Pr0phetiK> Well, it got to the GUI.. login screen.. right after login/authentication, it loads a white screen (presumably splash screen).. but the white screen has like jagged horizontal lines on it, and doesn't load properly. At this point nothing else loads.
[11:26] <jordan82> gnomefreak:  how do i report to the people that want to know?  i know flight 6 is comin near an end tho, but the espresso install did do this whoel fiasco in the first place
[11:27] <thoreauputic> Pr0phetiK: see if you can login using the failsafe option, or do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop , then type startx (that /etc/init.d/gdm stop will drop you out of X suddenly - just a warning)
[11:27] <gnomefreak> jordan82: first off dapper support is in #ubuntu+1 second if grub is installed (i think it is) than that file should be there try it with ' like /sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[11:28] <gnomefreak> make that 'sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:28] <gnomefreak> '
[11:30] <jordan82> i'm on a live cd right now.  linux is installed to hda2.   i mounted the drive to /mnt/hda2,  so i use the command 'sudo nautilus' then explore to there
[11:30] <jordan82> and there's no file
[11:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jordan82 abotu grub
[11:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jordan82 -about grub
[11:35] <JediMaster> hi again all, silly question what's the difference between Install to the hard disk and install a server?
[11:35] <JediMaster> is server without X/gdm?
[11:35] <cafuego> pretty much, ues
[11:35] <JediMaster> right, thanks =)
[11:37] <ompaul> JediMaster, and of course it being open you get to choose if you want to put that other part in later, no penalty for making a choice eariler on
[11:38] <JediMaster> =) good
[11:38] <JediMaster> I was going to install debian testing on my machine at work (new job, had to get rid of windows desktop, luckily the servers run debian), but someone suggested ubuntu, so I thought I'd give it a go =)
[11:41] <ompaul> JediMaster, to make your life easier to /msg ubotu root just to get the logic of the sudo command as used in ubuntu - you just don't need root to be set up, if you do expert there is a bug that forces you do setup root, however that can be sorted with reference to that page
[11:41] <ompaul> JediMaster,  this is not the root you were looking for
[11:42] <jordan82> okay i'm about to reboot.  wish me luck.  i'll be coming back in 10-15 if it dont work haha
[11:43] <croesus> propper procedure for installing jre for ubuntu?  Is it an apt cli?  I can't find it with synaptic...
[11:43] <GatoLoko> hi
[11:43] <noiesmo> !tell croesus about jre
[11:44] <noiesmo> !tell croesus about java
[11:46] <JediMaster> ompaul: =)
[11:47] <JediMaster> ompaul: how do you think it will cope with having a second graphics card added to the machine (will be later today, but I'm too impatient to wait for it to come), will I have to manually configure X (not a problem, just takes a bit)?
[11:47] <whiteguysamurai> would they consider including xgl in the next release?
[11:48] <whiteguysamurai> i think it's pretty nifty looking
[11:48] <ompaul> whiteguysamurai, not in its current incantation - its well borked
[11:48] <whiteguysamurai> xlg in general?
[11:48] <ompaul> JediMaster, there are some notes on wiki.ubuntu.com hang about
[11:49] <whiteguysamurai> yeah, and i happen to be one of those noobs.
[11:49] <JediMaster> ompaul: thanks, am I right in thinking the normal install won't set a root password?
[11:49] <whiteguysamurai> however, if it's avilable in the package manager in the future, that would make me most happy.
[11:50] <ompaul> JediMaster, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=dual+monitors&fullsearch=Text this is the way of the search :)
[11:50] <JediMaster> just used to being asked for root and a normal user's password by debian...
[11:50] <JediMaster> lol, thanks
[11:50] <noiesmo> whiteguysamurai, move to dapper and it is but being bleeding edge other things can break
[11:50] <whiteguysamurai> ok, makes sese.
[11:51] <whiteguysamurai> sense*
[11:51] <ompaul> JediMaster, you are correct that is why I sent that instruction, it is disabled by default and we generally find that sudo is your friend sudo command and bang and you never need sudo for cd etc
[11:51] <Doat> i get "Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file." every time i try to run something from the menu that needs the root password. they work when run in the console though. how can i fix this?
[11:52] <ompaul> Doat, sudo command or gksudo - yuou seem to have altered the machine if your not getting gksudo kicking off when you try to run some commands
[11:52] <Doat> well i just installed ubuntu and the menu worked in the beginning
[11:53] <whiteguysamurai> i wonder something, would madwifi be better then using ndiswrapper for my atheros wireless?
[11:53] <Doat> anyway, what should i do?
[11:53] <whiteguysamurai> for some reason, i can never get it working properly
[11:54] <ompaul> Doat, have you used some *helper* software to bring great brokenness to your machine?
[11:54] <Doat> *helper* software??
[11:54] <Doat> i installed sleuthkit + autopsy
[11:54] <ompaul> Doat, this is not the default behaviour of ubuntu, the menus don't stop working for some reason, and root is not enabled by default
[11:55] <Doat> root is not enabled. it's just the menu
[11:56] <Doat> sleuthkit and autopsy are pretty much the only thing i have installed besides the default packages
[11:56] <ompaul> Doat, your menus are not working when you require superuser access ... have not come across this before
[11:56] <Doat> oh
[11:56] <ompaul> Doat, how where they installed from packages or source or something else?
[11:56] <Doat> well for example synpatic asks for a password first and then gives the xauthorization error
[11:57] <GatoLoko> i've seen that in the candidates list is freepascal and somebody was going to try but it has been months without change, and there is nothing in revu so i'm going to try. is preferable to do it for breezy or for dapper?
[11:57] <Doat> with synpatic
[11:57] <ompaul> Doat, and your using your own password for that transaction?
[11:58] <Doat> also i can't install anything anymore. it says disk is full even though i have a 10G partition and have only default stuff and sleuthkit here. maybe sleuthkit fucked things up someway
[11:58] <Doat> yes
[11:58] <ompaul> Doat, we don't curse in this channel, we find it works better :-)
[11:58] <Doat> oh, sorry
[11:59] <ompaul> Doat, the joys of installing software from outside your repos - fire up a terminal and type df in it does it say your hard drive is full?
[12:01] <Doat> yes :/
[12:01] <Doat> i think sleuthkit brought loads of stuff from my windows partitions
[12:01] <ompaul> Doat, I have to do a job but before I go I want to test something with you do this, click on the system menu go to administriation down to synaptic and right click on it, top choice is "add this launcher to panel" do it it may work
[12:02] <Doat> don't work
[12:02] <Doat> it just put a ?-icon on the panel which doesn't work
[12:03] <gnomefreak> good try though ompaul
[12:03] <gnomefreak> Doat: i would get rid of sluethkit asap
[12:03] <ompaul> Doat, now right click on the icon and choose properties thell me what does it say for command line?
[12:04] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:04] <Doat> its blank :)
[12:05] <Doat> "Unnamed"
[12:05] <Doat> on the name field that is
[12:05] <gnomefreak> Doat: try putting gksudo synaptic int he command part? (check with ompaul first please)
[12:05] <selinium> Doat what is sluethkit?
[12:05] <ompaul> sleuthkit: Candidate: 2.00-2 : http://*.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages
[12:05] <ompaul> Doat, there is a version for ubuntu out there
[12:06] <Doat> sleuthkit for ubuntu?
[12:06] <selinium> Doat what part of sleuthkit are you after?
[12:06] <ompaul> Doat, okay something has really broken your menu for whatever reason
[12:06] <gnomefreak> Doat: yes its in universe repo
[12:07] <Doat> i installed sleuthkit with synaptic. shouldn't it automatically get the right version?
[12:08] <ompaul> Doat, okay, I missunderstood what your phrasing was, I took it as you had taken it from some random outside source :-)
[12:08] <Doat> its a tool to view partitions and stuff, i'm not even sure what else :) i tried to recover some files from my formated ntfs partition
[12:08] <selinium> gnomefreak, I thought it might of been a wapstumbler type of thing... but it isn't!
[12:08] <Doat> nope, i used synpatic
[12:08] <ompaul> Doat, that is most likely what is filling up your hard drive
[12:08] <ompaul> Doat, how big is the ntfs drive?
[12:09] <Doat> 10G
[12:09] <Doat> but i also did something with a 160G partition :)
[12:09] <selinium> Doat: clear out you temp files/folders
[12:09] <ompaul> Doat, your in for a big clear out :-)
[12:09] <Doat> maybe i should just remove sleuthkit and autopsy to start with?
[12:09] <selinium> Good start
[12:10] <bina> are there any Audio apps that support DRM in WMAs in linux?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> !wma
[12:10] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:10] <gnomefreak> bina: ^^^
[12:10] <ompaul> no you should find where it has dumped all its data, most likely in /home/username/somewhere if you can't remember it
[12:10] <bina> gnomefreak: thanks
[12:10] <gnomefreak> bina: your welsome
[12:13] <ompaul> bina, if you insist on using drm formatted materials you will find yourself in a less free situation, to be honest you survived without them before you could continue to do so, thus rejecting a lockin that some people think is the way to go, those who would restrict your choice do not know what they are doing, see DRM with Sony October last year and EMI DRM in Brazil this year, it is not something you can trust - ever- (sorry about the rant but I th
[12:13] <ompaul> ought you should know)
[12:13] <bina> silly DRM
[12:13] <ompaul> that is putting it very politely
[12:14] <bina> ompaul: yeah
[12:14] <bina> ompaul: i just wanted to get a massive attack track without having to buy the whole album
[12:14] <thoreauputic> fortunately most of the DRM protected stuff is such rubbish I have no use for it anyway....
[12:14] <ompaul> bina, reject the band and tell them why that might help things
[12:15] <ompaul> bina, nothing hurts more than actual customer rejection
[12:15] <bina> ompaul: I really hate stuff like this. Those CDs that mess up your comp when you put them in.  I had to get a paperclip n manually eject the drawer once. evil
[12:15] <Arsonide> Hey has Ubuntu evolved since Hoary, that's what I tried last.
[12:15] <ompaul> bina, so why participate in their little game
[12:16] <thoreauputic> Arsonide: no, the devs have been on long vacation since Hoary
[12:16] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[12:16] <ompaul> Arsonide, quite a lot, one release done and another almost ready
[12:18] <Arsonide> There a major changelist?
[12:18] <Arsonide> I can read
[12:18] <ompaul> its not the distro you saw before
[12:19] <JediMaster> ok, I can report a very smooth very nice install of dapper flight 6, the only thing that went wrong was that it didn't start up the network interface properly on first boot, ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 seems to have fixed it though
[12:19] <ompaul> !dapper
[12:19] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[12:19] <Arsonide> I hope it's not the distro I saw before.
[12:19] <Arsonide> Hoary didn't detect my monitor, I spent 3 hours trying to get the refresh rate to 85. :P
[12:19] <Arsonide> 3 hours of eye bleeding 60 hz
[12:20] <ompaul> !resolution
[12:20] <ubotu> resolution is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:20] <ompaul> Arsonide, and with that I leave you - places to be things to do
[12:21] <JediMaster> ompaul: didn't realise there was a separate channel =)
[12:21] <Arsonide> !changelog
[12:21] <ubotu> Arsonide: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:21] <Arsonide> k
[12:21] <Arsonide> :P
[12:21] <Arsonide> !changes
[12:21] <ubotu> Arsonide: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:22] <Arsonide> Find I'll just find the main site.
[12:22] <Arsonide> Fine*
[12:28] <thomasg_> Which wlan-card (pci) can I use with Ubuntu?
[12:28] <gnomefreak> ubotut ell thomasg_ about hardware
[12:29] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell thomasg_ about hardware
[12:29] <thomasg_> Thank you
[12:33] <Doat> okay the menu works after removing sleuthkit and autopsy and i found the autopsy folder containing 7G of something
[12:40] <Nameeater> is a .tgz file an archive or an install format?
[12:40] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: its an archive file (sotr of like a zip) but installed nowhere near like a zip :(
[12:41] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Nameeater -about tar
[12:41] <Nameeater> is it like a tar.gz file?
[12:41] <gnomefreak> ubotu: tell Nameeater -about compile
[12:41] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: same file
[12:41] <Nameeater> oh ok, thanks for that :)
[12:43] <|lostbyte|> Is there a way to copy a file off a cd and let it skip errors ?
[12:45] <sfar> where can i see how much ram i got installed?
[12:46] <nirmal2cool> issue the command free
[12:46] <nirmal2cool> sfar
[12:46] <sfar> okay
[12:46] <hyphenated> or cat /proc/meminfo
[12:46] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: you can try man cp but its not something ive heard of
[12:47] <sfar> yay, it worked
[12:47] <sfar> :)
[12:48] <BlueEagle> |lostbyte|: man dd
[12:48] <Frogzoo> |lostbyte|: if you're desperate, use dd to copy the entire cd, (dd has option to skip errors) then mount the iso image on a loopback
[12:48] <BlueEagle> |lostbyte|: might work.
[12:50] <|lostbyte|> BlueDevil: FrdPrefct: which option am i looking at here ?
[12:51] <mlopes> hi. what's the equivelent to XFree's xf86config in xorg? I know it's bundled in Ubuntu
[12:51] <CraiZE> for those who want to see the dapper beta (new icons and such) : http://www.project-scar.com/CraiZE/Pics/XGL/Screenshot-Dapper-Beta.png
[12:52] <|lostbyte|> ohh // .. i think its noerror..
[12:52] <hyphenated> mlopes: you're probably better off using 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[12:53] <mlopes> I found it to not always work as intended
[12:54] <hyphenated> mlopes: it works fine for 99% of people. it sucks to be in that 1% where it doesn't work fine
[12:54] <mlopes> hyphenated, indeed
[12:54] <mlopes> but unfortunately I was part of the minority :-)
[12:54] <hyphenated> mlopes: I can't find ubuntu's equivalent to xf86config with a cursory apt-cache search attempt
[12:54] <mlopes> I did the same
[12:55] <hyphenated> what's it done wrong anyway?
[12:55] <mlopes> but I know I used one while installing ATi X800 on an ubuntu machine
[12:55] <mlopes> this is not for me, is for a friend who's not being able to detect the Screen
[12:55] <mlopes> I had already suggested dpkg-reconfigure
[12:55] <hyphenated> and he doesn't even get a useable but non-accellerated screen?
[12:55] <mlopes> but still, I'd like to provide him with a plan B :-)
[12:56] <Frogzoo> hyphenated: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:56] <Apostle^> he could try the vesa driver
[12:56] <mlopes> xorg does not even start probably because xorg.config is incorrecty configured
[12:56] <mlopes> he has quite a strange laptop
[12:56] <mlopes> ELITEGROUP GREEN550 in case anyone knows it
[12:56] <Frogzoo> mlopes: it's 'xorg.conf' btw
[12:56] <hyphenated> Frogzoo: nono, xf86config is a binary, not a config file
[12:57] <mlopes> Frogzoo, typo
[12:57] <Frogzoo> hyphenated: oic, then 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[12:57] <hyphenated> Frogzoo: yah, suggested that already ;-)
[12:57] <Frogzoo> k, just ignore me :D
[12:57] <hyphenated> mlopes: sounds like a pretty ugly laptop ;-)
[12:57] <mlopes> :p
[12:58] <ubu_new> I have the same problem
[12:59] <ubu_new> after loading screen write - non supported
[12:59] <ubu_new> and after black screen
[12:59] <ubu_new> where to write  'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?
[01:00] <Apostle^> ubu_new: in terminal
[01:00] <C-O-L-T> Tomorrow ships ubuntu rc 1 out?
[01:00] <Apostle^> rc1 ?
[01:00] <ubu_new> Apostle^, how to load the terminal
[01:00] <ubu_new> I have black screen now
[01:00] <Apostle^> ctrl+alt+f2
[01:01] <ubu_new> to do restart and press it during the load?
[01:01] <Apostle^> you can do it when the pc's on
[01:01] <Apostle^> to get a term
[01:02] <ubu_new> I did restart and trying but still no terminal
[01:02] <ubu_new> ah
[01:02] <ubu_new> now there is :)
[01:02] <ubu_new> debian:login:
[01:03] <C-O-L-T> Tomorrow ships Ubuntu Release Candidate 1 out?
[01:04] <ubu_new> I reciving few lines and the last one is /user/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root
[01:04] <ajmitch> C-O-L-T: no, beta release. RC is due in late may
[01:04] <ubu_new> and in the 2nt line- perl: wornning: Setting locale failed
[01:05] <ubu_new> Apostle^, I am on the right way?
[01:05] <PuMpErNiCkEl> ubu_new: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', not just 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[01:05] <C-O-L-T> ajmitch: what is the beta release?
[01:06] <Frogzoo> C-O-L-T: dapper
[01:06] <ubu_new> PuMpErNiCkEl, thanks
[01:06] <PuMpErNiCkEl> ubu_new: np :)
[01:06] <C-O-L-T> ajmitch: there will be no flight 7? just beta's?
[01:06] <C-O-L-T> or how
[01:06] <Frogzoo> C-O-L-T: flight # are betas for dapper
[01:06] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T: after alpha flight 6 comes beta than comes rc
[01:07] <ubu_new> PuMpErNiCkEl, lots of lines running
[01:07] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: thanks guys I understand now
[01:07] <gnomefreak> Frogzoo: flaights are alphas not betas (to get technical)
[01:07] <ubu_new> and 2 before last - Package 'xserver-xorg' is not installed and no info is available
[01:07] <C-O-L-T> What do you think how stable will be teh Beta because I would like to install but once I tried flight 3 but crashed a few times
[01:07] <C-O-L-T> :)
[01:08] <PuMpErNiCkEl> ubu_new: Did you do a server install?
[01:08] <Frogzoo> C-O-L-T: you won't get any guarantees running a beta - stuff can happen
[01:08] <ubu_new> I did the normal installation
[01:08] <ubu_new> I think desktop
[01:08] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T: beta can still break but all the major bugs should be fixed
[01:08] <ubu_new> how it is possible to check what I did?
[01:09] <Frogzoo> C-O-L-T: Dapper releases in 6 weeks, so make your own judgement
[01:09] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: are you on an all black screenw ith white font?
[01:09] <ubu_new> yes
[01:09] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, it is still the trminal
[01:09] <ubu_new> terminal
[01:09] <ubu_new> Frogzoo, dapper will know my screen?
[01:09] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: the black screen fills up the full screen?
[01:09] <C-O-L-T> Frogzoo: I see, I think I will give a shot to the Beta LIVE CD
[01:10] <PuMpErNiCkEl> ubu_new: Sounds more like a server install than a desktop one.
[01:10] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, not sure what you mean
[01:10] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: if you type apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop does it say installed?
[01:11] <Frogzoo> C-O-L-T: good call
[01:11] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, ubuntu-desktop: installed: 0.3 candidate: 0.3 version table *** 0.3.0
[01:12] <ubu_new> is it ok?
[01:12] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: try typong startx what do you get?
[01:13] <ubu_new> all screen with lines and
[01:13] <ubu_new> fatel server error: server is already active for desplay 0
[01:13] <b0se> hello... i am trying to compile a vanilla kernel with iptables support -- the guide i am following says to enable "IP: fast network address translation" and "IP: use TOS value as routing key", but i couldn't find either of these options....   will iptables still work without these options?
[01:13] <ubu_new> xlib: connetion to ":0.0" refused by server
[01:13] <ubu_new> xlit: invalid MIT-Magic-cookie key
[01:13] <ubu_new> giving up
[01:14] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: type sudo reboot and let it reboot your pc than when you get back here lets see if it starts
[01:14] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, it is doing reboot
[01:14] <ubu_new> to do something during the reboot?
[01:14] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: no but i would like to know why its not starting x
[01:15] <ubu_new> all things loading now
[01:15] <ubu_new> text is ruuning on screen
[01:15] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: what video card is in it?
[01:15] <ubu_new> not sure
[01:15] <ubu_new> and again none supported
[01:15] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: back to tty?
[01:16] <ubu_new> still black screen
[01:16] <gnomefreak> tty= full text screen
[01:16] <ubu_new> ok :)
[01:16] <ubu_new> still black
[01:17] <kevor> Hi, when upgrading to dapper from breezy i run into this problem: www.kev0r.nl/error
[01:18] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and let it find everything automaticlly and when it gives you a list of drivers choose vesa and that restart x after you gone through all of the prompts you should than get a gui log in but it will need to be cahnged more than likely but its a start
[01:19] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, thanks but I did this few times and it is not finding the package
[01:19] <hyphenated> kevor: you probably want to talk to the guys in #ubuntu+1
[01:19] <ubu_new> and now the tt1 is not working :(
[01:19] <kevor> hyphenated: they don't know, besides i'm not yet on ubuntu+1, more like ubuntu+0..1
[01:19] <ubu_new> I have only black screen
[01:20] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[01:20] <kevor> 0.5*
[01:20] <hyphenated> kevor: well, it's a dapper problem, not a breezy one ;-) put your sources.list in a pastebin anyway
[01:21] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: let me know if its gonna install anything
[01:21] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, for now I can not go back to the terminal
[01:21] <kevor> hyphenated: i think it's solved
[01:21] <kevor> thank you
[01:21] <ubu_new> there is only black screen
[01:22] <heiko> i have suspended my ubuntu notebook using that "suspend to disk" thing in the gnome shutdown menu - and now booting leads to different kinds of problem (segfault, hanging), depending on which kernel i use.
[01:22] <heiko> any ideas what i could try? (all kernels in grub lead to various hangs)
[01:22] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: yes black screen with white font? or just black screen?
[01:22] <ubu_new> just black screen
[01:22] <ubu_new> with no option to write anything
[01:22] <hyphenated> kevor: ok. if the solution didn't come from someone in #ubuntu+1, it might be worth mentioning what fixed it in that channel
[01:22] <ubu_new> and I get it after it loading everything and write non supported
[01:23] <kevor> hyphenated: it did come from that channel :) i was being stuborn in my usage of apt-get (aptitude fixxed it)
[01:23] <ubu_new> how it is possible to go to the tremnial during the loading?
[01:23] <hyphenated> kevor: haha sweet. have fun with it :-)
[01:23] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: does hitting ctrl+alt+F1 or F2 or F3 give you a login prompt?
[01:23] <kevor> hyphenated: hope i will :)
[01:24] <ubu_new> gook
[01:24] <ubu_new> ok
[01:24] <ubu_new> I don't know how but I am on the terminal again
[01:24] <ubu_new> so to write  sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop?
[01:24] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: did you use the keys i told you to?
[01:24] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: yes
[01:25] <ubu_new> yes
[01:25] <gnomefreak> you can toggle between 6 ttys
[01:25] <ubu_new> but not sure which one of them did the job
[01:25] <gnomefreak> F1-F6 iirc
[01:25] <beta_m> what do i use as p2p downloader, something that connects to both gnutella and edonkey networks?
[01:25] <beta_m> will xmule do?
[01:26] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: default i think is F2 so it was eitehr F1 or F3 to find out what one yoiu started on use ctrl+alt+F1 or F2 or F3 and look for your screen you have
[01:26] <gnomefreak> had
[01:26] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: is it installing anything?
[01:26] <DarkED> hi
[01:26] <DarkED> i am having a problem with my dependencies i think
[01:27] <DarkED> i am trying to install a package and i get this
[01:27] <lwelyn> I have to screens and a ati card here. how i make both screens on one ati card work ?
[01:27] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, It did the installation good
[01:27] <DarkED> W: Encountered status field in a non-version description
[01:27] <DarkED> or this
[01:27] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: after its done please reboot
[01:27] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, initializing package states... Done
[01:27] <ubu_new> ok
[01:27] <DarkED> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 15921 package `kdemultimedia':
[01:27] <DarkED>  missing version
[01:27] <DarkED> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[01:27] <gnomefreak> if it installs anything
[01:27] <gnomefreak> DarkED: do not paste in here
[01:27] <DarkED> this happens with every package i've tried
[01:27] <gnomefreak> use pastebin
[01:28] <gnomefreak> DarkED: that looks like it could be  astray mark it cant read but that i cant tell you for sure
[01:29] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, back to the none supported screen and later black screen
[01:29] <ubu_new> and now terminal
[01:30] <lwelyn> so nobody can help me with this ?
[01:30] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, so now to write sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[01:31] <bigfoot1> how can i make a screenshot include my mouse pointer?
[01:31] <lool> hi there, is it safe to create Debian kernel packages with make-kpkg under Debian and install them on Ubuntu?
[01:31] <lool> for some reason, dapper's make-kpkg seems to be a bit old in comparison with sid's
[01:32] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: yes try it let me know if you get it or not
[01:32] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1: thats a very very good question
[01:32] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak: but if there's no way, i guess i could just add paste a mouse icon into the image file.
[01:33] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, not installed :-(
[01:33] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1: truthfully I think that is the way to go with it but if you want to wait a while someone might come in that knows for sure
[01:34] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: can you use pastebin and paste the output of lspci please
[01:34] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak: ok
[01:34] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, same messege - package- xserver-xorg' is not...
[01:34] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, it is with computer not connected to the internet yes
[01:35] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: you dont need to be connected to run  that command
[01:35] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, so I am not sure what you mean by pastebin
[01:35] <gnomefreak> oh wait damn nm you need net to use pastebin
[01:36] <ubu_new> why it can not find this package?
[01:36] <ubu_new> is it possibl to copy it from the disk?
[01:37] <ubu_new> possible
[01:37] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: if you were to do that i think stating over from scratch might be an idea i have this feeling something during install got screwed up
[01:37] <ubu_new> I don't mind to do that
[01:37] <gnomefreak> did you get any errors during install?
[01:37] <ubu_new> no
[01:37] <ubu_new> nothing
[01:38] <ubu_new> I read that I need to install with expert mode in order to set up the screen
[01:38] <ubu_new> is that right?
[01:38] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: ok i hate to say this but i would try install again (xorg might have gotten sorrupted or something)
[01:38] <ubu_new> ok
[01:38] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, np
[01:39] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: its a choice but not sure if that will help either
[01:39] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, so what to do in the installation that will change the mode setting?
[01:39] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: if you do try expert mode please write down the video card info from lspci
[01:39] <ubu_new> what is lspci
[01:39] <ubu_new> and where in the expert mode I change the screen settings?
[01:40] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: its a command that shows you info about your hardware (some of it)
[01:40] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: i neer done expert mode
[01:40] <gnomefreak> never*
[01:40] <ubu_new> ok :)
[01:40] <DarkED> hey gnomefreak
[01:40] <ubu_new> I will try it now
[01:40] <gnomefreak> DarkED: ?
[01:41] <DarkED> how would I go about switching my status with my statusold in /var/lib/dpkg/?
[01:41] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, or to do other insatallion?
[01:41] <DarkED> it tried to edit them but it gives access denied, i tried sudo kate and the same :D
[01:41] <WK|Dutchy> is there an msn client here on linux which can show the 'comments'? (i believe those were added in msn 7)
[01:41] <ubu_new> what you think is better?
[01:41] <Hobbsee> WK|Dutchy: they show up in kopete, probably in gaim as well
[01:41] <WK|Dutchy> I dont see em in gaim
[01:42] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: try default install first (my personal opinion)
[01:42] <DarkED> Dutchy: Use koptet
[01:42] <WK|Dutchy> but ill try kopete then
[01:42] <gnomefreak> DarkED: dont know sorry
[01:42] <ubu_new> ok
[01:42] <DarkED> ok thanks
[01:42] <DarkED> kopete* even
[01:42] <ubu_new> so I am doing the defual now
[01:43] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: yeah when the first screen comes up just hit enter
[01:43] <ubu_new> it is already doing the pertition
[01:43] <WK|Dutchy> hmmm wait naturally that k means kde :>
[01:43] <bliss1_> hi folks
[01:44] <gnomefreak> gm bliss1_
[01:44] <WK|Dutchy> ill go try some others then :|
[01:44] <bliss1_> gnomefreak: yep its a good one
[01:44] <gnomefreak> good to hear
[01:44] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, you think it will solve the problem?
[01:45] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: i wish i could say yes to that for sure ubu_new but your problem is not one ive ever run into
[01:45] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: got 0.8.0 installed ok
[01:45] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: how big of a partition is ubuntu going onto?
[01:46] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, not sure now it is already after...
[01:46] <gnomefreak> is it only ps on that hd?
[01:46] <gnomefreak> os*
[01:46] <ubu_new> yes
[01:46] <ubu_new> clean and new
[01:46] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: 10 gig 20 gig?
[01:46] <ubu_new> 80
[01:46] <gnomefreak> oh
[01:46] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm
[01:46] <ubu_new> sorry
[01:46] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: its all good
[01:47] <ubu_new> I just need to find the screeen
[01:47] <ubu_new> screen :)
[01:47] <shinu> insmod: error inserting 'vloopback.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module <== anyone might know why i am getting this?
[01:50] <DarkED> gnomefreak, i want to tell you i fixed my problem and escaped from dependency hell
[01:51] <DarkED> incase you ever need to fix a dependency problem
[01:51] <slougi> hi all, if I want to request a package to be updated, how does that happen?
[01:51] <DarkED> login as root and go to /var/lib/dpkg/ and delete 'status' and replace it with 'status-old'
[01:51] <DarkED> then all will be well if you reinstall the package it complains about
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> slougi, what package?
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> if its in universe you might want to join -motu and ask them
[01:52] <slougi> Kamping_Kaiser: mercurial. It's currently at 0.7 in universe, but is up to 0.8
[01:52] <slougi> -motu?
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> anyone know how to convert a primary partition to an extended partition
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> ?
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> slougi, ubuntu-motu, where the universe team hang out
[01:52] <DarkED> kaiser: yes, boot into windows, and download partition magic
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> they would know how to ask ;)
[01:52] <slougi> right, thanks
[01:53] <DarkED> thats the only good way i know of doing it
[01:53] <slougi> :)
[01:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> DarkED, in the absence of windows thats not verey helpfull
[01:53] <DarkED> I understand, and I'm sorry...
[01:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> otherwise i woulod have dont it already ;)
[01:53] <DarkED> but thats what I had to do
[01:53] <shinu> Kamping_Kaiser: gparted?
[01:53] <lool> Kamping_Kaiser: you can temper your partition table, use some low level formatting tool such as fdisk or cfdisk and delete the primary partition, create an extended partition on the same boundaries
[01:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> shinu, doesnt seem to do it
[01:53] <gnomefreak> Kamping_Kaiser: what about qtparted or gparted?
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> lool, i *just* recovered this partition, i cant bring myself to delete it :S
[01:54] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:54] <munti78> What is the command to rename a directory in Terminal?
[01:54] <_jason> munti78: mv oldname newname
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> mv
[01:54] <shinu> munti78: mv
[01:54] <lool> Kamping_Kaiser: well deleting it doesn't mean the data it holds is away, deleting the partition just mean removing the entry from the partition table
[01:54] <lool> Kamping_Kaiser: high-level tools would do exactly the same thing
[01:55] <_jason> ubu_new: tell munti78 about cli
[01:55] <_jason> ubotu: tell munti78 about cli
[01:55] <munti78> Great, thanks!
[01:55] <lool> Kamping_Kaiser: the safe way is to dd eg /dev/hda2 to an external hard disk, delete the partition, create a new one and dd the content into it
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> lool, yeh, i might backup and try again
[01:56] <lool> but that requires an external disk
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> i have one handy ;)
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> i borrowed one from work fo rthe purpose
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok, thanks people. i'll have a go then
[01:56] <gnomefreak> goods luck Kamping_Kaiser
[01:57] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: are you in bed
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> ta GnarlyBob
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> * gnomefreak
[02:00] <bliss1_> gnomefreak: i think i have my own channel how do i access it
[02:02] <Hobbsee> mmm...another netsplit?
[02:02] <bliss1_> any one got a script to start kqemu please
[02:03] <bimberi> !kqemu
[02:03] <bimberi> !+kqemu
[02:03] <ubotu> kqemu is, like, totally, a *closed-source* kernel module for speeding up the QEMU virtual machine. To install on breezy, run the insQEMU.sh script available from http://oui.com.br/n/content.php?article.23 More complete install instructions can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KQEmu . See also !qvm86
[02:04] <bliss1_> ubotu ye i know but not the script
[02:04] <ubotu> bliss1_: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:04] <gnomefreak> bliss1_: /j #yourchannelname
[02:04] <duveit> to be blunt, is there any good CD emulation software for ubuntu, like for instance Daemon for windows?
[02:04] <bliss1_> gnomefreak thanks
[02:04] <gnomefreak> bliss1_: if you didnt register your channel it was closed
[02:05] <shinu> why dont i have /dev/video* ?
[02:05] <bliss1_> gnomefreak o ok  no just my nick and password
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> duveit, mount?
[02:06] <shinu> duveit: mount with -o loop
[02:06] <tonyyarusso> duveit: What do you mean?
[02:06] <duveit> Kamping_Kaiser, I just say mount iso?
[02:06] <duveit> anyway, I get the idea, and it seem like the obvious solution of course
[02:06] <tonyyarusso> duveit: It's some options in mount, involves a -o I think, not sure what else, but yeah.
[02:07] <shinu> duveit: mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/iso /mount/point
[02:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> duveit, `sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /heres/the/iso /heres/the/mount/point`
[02:07] <gnomefreak> mount --help or man mount should tell you what flags to use for what options
[02:08] <duveit> ok, thanks :), just installing apache here, and I needed the cd, which I cant find, so I figured eulating the cd would be easiest
[02:08] <duveit> *emulating (my 'm' key keeps getting stuck )
[02:10] <shinu> how do i check package info with ubotu?
[02:10] <tonyyarusso> !info coreutils
[02:10] <ubotu> coreutils: (The GNU core utilities), section base, is required. Version: 5.2.1-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1028 kB, Installed size: 7536 kB
[02:10] <tonyyarusso> shinu: Like that.
[02:11] <tonyyarusso> shinu: Or, more preferably, /msg ubotu info packagename
[02:11] <shinu> okay
[02:11] <shinu> thanks
[02:12] <DBO> so identify is not spelled indentify... makes talking in here hard if you mess that up... that is all
[02:12] <waylandbill> I can access a windows share fine with smbclient. If I try to mount the share though, i get a mount_data version is not supported error. Anyone know what this is all about?
[02:12] <shinu> anyone know about a ivtv package?
[02:12] <DBO> shinu, yo, what you need?
[02:13] <gnomefreak> bbl need to find passport :(
[02:13] <shinu> DBO: well, i dont have /dev/video* and i think ivtv solves the problem
[02:13] <bliss1_> DBO: must get a packet or a trash can full of that coffee your on
[02:13] <DBO> shinu, yes that would if you have a tv card
[02:14] <DBO> shinu, have you a question?
[02:15] <waylandbill> perhaps I need to specify the workgroup?
[02:16] <shinu> DBO: oh i see.. thanks
[02:17] <DBO> brb
[02:20] <bimberi> waylandbill: do you have smbfs installed?
[02:20] <aryeh> hi
[02:21] <waylandbill> bimberi: omg. no I don't
[02:21] <walden> heya
[02:21] <waylandbill> that explains it.
[02:21] <bimberi> waylandbill: it shouldn't let you try to mount it and is a known issue - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/31523
[02:22] <aryeh> Hi, Where can I get help on installing Ubuntu?
[02:22] <walden> here, i guess.
[02:22] <walden> you ask and get help. atleast that's what i did when i installed :D
[02:22] <waylandbill> bimberi: yeah. a slightly more descriptive error would've made it easy
[02:22] <aryeh> Thank you, wlden
[02:25] <walden> How often does the artwork on Dapper get updated?
[02:26] <walden> Cos, each time I have upgrated, i've got new stuff
[02:26] <aryeh> I am very frustrated.  After trying five times to install Linux with mandrake and failing, I have just installed Ubuntu *TWICE*
[02:26] <walden> and what happened?
[02:29] <tonyyarusso> aryeh: Can you explain further?
[02:31] <Croperz> aryeh: wouldn't that be satisfying rather than frustrating?
[02:31] <aryeh> after logging into UBUNTU, I get a message "There are 39 updates available".   I ckick and NOTHING happens.  I try <<System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager>> It used to prompt me for a password and do nothing.  Now it doesn't even bother to prompt me for a password, it IGNORES me.  Any advice?
[02:32] <walden> Hm.
[02:32] <tonyyarusso> aryeh: Probably a busted gksudo.
[02:32] <Tomcat__> aryeh: Try "sudo apt-get upgrade" in a console
[02:32] <tonyyarusso> aryeh: Which installation option did you use?
[02:32] <walden> Open a terminal and type sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[02:33] <_jason> aryeh: if the above doesn't work, paste the output of the 'groups' command
[02:33] <waylandbill> I've seen that happen many times. Usually if I reboot, all is well. A command prompt apt-get usually works though.
[02:33] <tonyyarusso> walden: You need the sudo in front of both, I believe.
[02:33] <phrowzen> anyone know why apt-get upgrade is skipping 'udev'?
[02:33] <Tomcat__> phrowzen: "skipping"?
[02:34] <walden> tonyyarusso: okie.. i've never done it that way though :)
[02:34] <phrowzen> Building dependency tree... Done -- The following packages have been kept back:--  udev -- 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[02:34] <aryeh> For my second installation I chose "expert".  After the "recommended" installation I did not have these problems but for a day and a half I failed to find any IDE that would compile a simple C++ program.
[02:34] <waylandbill> I think it was my clock's skew causing gksudo to return a timestamp to far in future though.
[02:34] <walden> i apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[02:34] <tonyyarusso> walden: Really?  I could be wrong.  Not sure how sudo takes its arguments.
[02:35] <walden> aryeh: just do the recommended install. then apt-get install build-essential anjuta
[02:35] <bliss1_> hi
[02:35] <tonyyarusso> aryeh: Aaah.
[02:35] <tonyyarusso> !expert
[02:35] <ubotu> No working sudo after expert install? as root: addgroup --system admin; echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers && adduser your_normal_username admin
[02:35] <aryeh> How about re-installing not as expert and then asking you to help me compile a C++ "Hello, world!" program?
[02:35] <walden> tonyyarusso: no.. you are correct. you have to issue sudo twice. was saying that i had not done the double command with one sudo myself
[02:35] <tonyyarusso> walden: Oh, gotcha.
[02:36] <walden> aryeh: ok :) do what tonyyarusso said about expert up there.
[02:36] <bliss1_> maybe this is a silly question but i mount hda2 where is the wastebasket to be found
[02:36] <walden> aryeh: then install build-essential and anjuta(which is an IDE)
[02:36] <Tomcat__> blindx: <mountpoint>/.Trash
[02:36] <Tomcat__> blindx: Or maybe <mountpoint>/.Trash-<username>, not sure.
[02:37] <bliss1_> Tomcat ok thanks in .Trash
[02:37] <waylandbill> an IDE might be slight overkill for compiling a simple Hello, World.
[02:37] <Plitskin> uhmm... Hi, I need a little help regarding my touchpad
[02:37] <walden> :] 
[02:38] <waylandbill> OTOH, any experience with it helps when you get to the big projects.
[02:38] <Plitskin> I need to disable a feature on my touchpad which is tapping on the touchpad which is similar to clicking the left button mouse... How can I do this?
[02:39] <waylandbill> Plitskin: on a laptop? isn't that so annoying?
[02:39] <walden> what sort of mouse is this? thinkpad?
[02:39] <walden> or synaptics?
[02:39] <walden> you can do all that by adding stuff to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:40] <tonyyarusso> Thinkpads use a Synaptics touchpad...
[02:41] <walden> apt-get install tpconfig
[02:42] <walden> Plitskin: http://chunghau.tripod.com/mandrake-laptop.html maybe that will work for you.
[02:42] <Plitskin> sorry, I'm using a synaptics touchpad...
[02:42] <Plitskin> walden: thanks for the link, I'll go check it out...
[02:42] <imc1> Need to migrate firefox setings (passwords, cookies, form data, bookmarks) from one machine to another, is it just copying the .mozilla folder to my ~ ?
[02:43] <walden> yeah. that's info for synaptics touchpad. goto the link. install tpconfig
[02:43] <_jason> imc1: you could probably just do ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default , but the whole folder would work too
[02:43] <Jemt> imc1: Yep
[02:44] <imc1> Thanks _jason and Jemt
[02:44] <Jemt> ^^
[02:44] <aryeh> Thank you walden --  sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade is working
[02:45] <walden> umm. do sudo apt-get update then do sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:45] <aryeh> (after I realized there was no space between "apt" and "-get".
[02:46] <walden> heh, ok. it is better to do it in 2 steps anyway.
[02:46] <walden> or try usiing your Synaptics and see if it works fine now.
[02:46] <aryeh> Thank everybody else that gave me their advice!
[02:48] <phatmonkey> what is the best DTP package around? the hardest part of the conversion for most people I know is saying goodbye to MS publisher!
[02:49] <arrick> Morning everyone, how are we today?
[02:49] <_jason> arrick: morning
[02:49] <arrick> hey is there anyone around that has "tweaked" the default server install?
[02:50] <SirKillalot> how can I make my system automaticly dump the memory on a segmention fault?
[02:51] <fyrestrtr> wow, vista really looks nice :D
[02:51] <fyrestrtr> phatmonkey: microsoft publisher?! they still make that?
[02:51] <Doat> it *looks* nice
[02:51] <donza> sure it does.. thats only way they can sell it
[02:51] <Doat> that's where the nice things end i'm guessing
[02:51] <fyrestrtr> c'mon now -- it also has some nice features -- I just got the latest beta from MS to test out.
[02:51] <phatmonkey> yep, and people still use it sadly :P
[02:52] <fyrestrtr> for example -- hella-improved firewall.
[02:52] <donza> i heard that new media player is good?
[02:52] <fyrestrtr> its very good
[02:52] <harfooz> phatmonkey, Scribus is what I use for our dept newsletter.
[02:52] <phatmonkey> yeah, that looked best to me
[02:52] <donza>  i mean i guess even microsoft learns... slowly but anyway learns...
[02:53] <phatmonkey> well, the only thing I could find
[02:53] <fyrestrtr> it doesn't allow you to do stupid stuff as easily as you could in XP. For example, even though I have an administrator account, it still asks me with a prompt when I'm about to do something stupid -- like delete a core file (it won't allow it, till I specifically say yes).
[02:53] <waylandbill> but eye-candy doesn't increase productivity does it?
[02:53] <harfooz> phatmonkey, scribus isn't very "easy" though. I've never used MS PUblisher,but I know a lot of people like it. It's very template-driven.
[02:54] <fyrestrtr> actually, windows new profiling tool will only display the eye-candy that your computer can handle (the performance rating).
[02:54] <gUoX> i cant find wlanconfig with kubuntu breezy default installation as server, any idea where to get that ?
[02:54] <waylandbill> unless you're one who pirates windows, then all the eye-candy is disabled... god... that's almost a reason to go that route. ;-)
[02:54] <fyrestrtr> I am really liking it -- the only problem is, that since its so damn new (and so damn beta) half the directx enabled stuff doesn't run in accelerated mode (like games).
[02:54] <harfooz> phatmonkey, I checked out the book Looking Good in Print from the library, and learned scribus through the docs. It's a steep learning curve, but the results are very good.
[02:54] <donza> still i think vista cant beat xgl+compiz ;)
[02:55] <arrick> Dr_Willis you around?
[02:55] <fyrestrtr> waylandbill: yeah I have the Ultimate version -- all eyecandy (plus media center)
[02:55] <phatmonkey> harfooz: I'll look into it later, thanks
[02:55] <arrick> IdleOne, where have you run off to? Philly?
[02:55] <donza> media center is actually very good product
[02:56] <harfooz> gotta scoot. later phatmonkey
[02:56] <phatmonkey> see ya
[02:56] <arrick> MEDIA center is the bomb, I have never used a windows setup that is this good
[02:56] <Plitskin> hi, once tpconfig is installed... do I have to do tpconfig --tapmode=0  everytime I start my computer or not?
[02:56] <phatmonkey> media centre just crashed for me all the time, literally. I couldn't watch anything without it crashing
[02:56] <phatmonkey> hence, mythtv
[02:57] <waylandbill> I don't like in XP that there isn't a 'sudo' like function. Run As just doesn't cut it.
[02:57] <Hobbsee> Seveas: good luck....
[02:57] <Hobbsee> see /topic
[02:57] <Seveas> Hobbsee, is it still hell?
[02:57] <batman> can someone tell me how to fix these errors i'm getting gnome won't start up... http://pastebin.com/669118
[02:57] <Hobbsee> Seveas: i dont know - we've been shielded by that +R
[02:58] <Hobbsee> #kde was getting hit a lot after us..
[02:58] <Seveas> Hobbsee, ubugtu will raise the shields again on the first sign of trouble
[02:58] <Hobbsee> Seveas: oh goody :)
[03:01] <Plitskin> guys... sorry to disturb you... After I ran tpconfig -t=0 I get this message... tpconfig --tapmode=0 fatal: Could not open PS/2 Port [/dev/psaux] 
[03:02] <igge> hello
[03:02] <igge> how can i use .srt files in totem?
[03:02] <Doat> lo
[03:02] <ejofee> the small pc (computer case) speaker is /dev/?
[03:03] <Hobbsee> ejofee: ah, /dev/dsp i think
[03:03] <ejofee> Hobbsee: thank you
[03:04] <ejofee> Hobbsee: /dev/dsp seems to refer to the normal speakers
[03:05] <Hobbsee> oh ok
[03:05] <igge> anyone who knows how subtitles work in totem?
[03:05] <igge> please....
[03:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> they appear on the screen
[03:06] <igge> but... how do I make them do that?
[03:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> iirc theres a subtitle reading pack in the repos -  you might want to check
[03:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> tht i dont know :)
[03:06] <Snorre_Ruch> igge: i could never seem to get them to work for me, not with matroska files anyway
[03:07] <stephen_banks> i think you have to load them using something like totem file:///file.avi#subtitle:file.srt
[03:07] <igge> stephen_banks: aha.. will try that..
[03:07] <stephen_banks> okee
[03:07] <arrick> Anyone: Have you optimized your ubuntu server system?
[03:08] <hyphenated> arrick: optimized it for what?
[03:10] <igge> stephen_banks: hm no.. didn't work for me..
[03:11] <stephen_banks> hmm, that's how the totem project page says you do it
[03:11] <igge> maybe it can't find a font or sth..
[03:11] <_kalm> hello... does anyone here have any experience playn games on Steam via WINE.. im thinking of fully migratin to linux and thinking whether its worth it... please tell if you have any info.
[03:11] <arrick> hyphenated, for best operation, as well optimizing the apache2 setup
[03:11] <igge> stephen_banks: do you have a url to that page?
[03:12] <stephen_banks> aye, there might be some sort of extension for totem
[03:12] <hyphenated> arrick: well, those are still really vague terms
[03:12] <stephen_banks> yeh, sure: http://www.gnome.org/projects/totem/
[03:12] <hyphenated> arrick: "best operation" is meaningless without context, such as static content, dynamic content with a database backend, etc
[03:14] <hyphenated> arrick: and in general, optimization is pointless unless you know which part of the system actually needs it. eg: are you CPU-bound or IO-bound, or swapping, or whatnot
[03:15] <patrick52222> ello all
[03:15] <_kalm> hello... does anyone here have any experience playn games on Steam via WINE.. im thinking of fully migratin to linux and thinking whether its worth it... im an occasional gamer and just need those to work, please tell if you have any info.
[03:15] <arrick> hyphenated, I dont know how to tell all that in ubuntu systems, i have only been using it for 2 months now
[03:16] <GiGaHuRtZ> how do i show fps in glxgears?
[03:16] <patrick52222> _kalm not most games work with linux, but if you cant get wine running. you might be able to get cedega working with them
[03:16] <arrick> hyphenated, dr_willis mentioned it to me while I wwas setting up the server a while back, and now I am ready to start messign with that stuff, now that I know the server works
[03:16] <xadonas> sveiki
[03:17] <arrick> hyphenated, you feel like walking me through checking it out?
[03:17] <xadonas> a yra lietuviu
[03:17] <xadonas> ?
[03:17] <hyphenated> arrick: not really, it's pretty late :-)
[03:17] <arrick> English please
[03:17] <arrick> hyphenated, morning for me, I just got up heh
[03:18] <hyphenated> arrick: work out what you need to optimize first though.
[03:18] <arrick> hyphenated, I want the best possible speed for the mutiple websites that I run
[03:19] <PingPong> hi, where can I find the downloaded package files that I get from synaptic package manager on a livecd?
[03:19] <_jason> PingPong: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[03:19] <PingPong> _jason: that's also gonna work on a live cd?
[03:20] <_jason> PingPong: I haven't actually done that on a livecd, but I assume it is the same
[03:20] <patrick52222> im trying to set up a ftp server! can anyone help
[03:20] <arrick> !ftp
[03:20] <_jason> PingPong: what is your end goal?
[03:20] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[03:20] <PingPong> _jason: Thanks found em
[03:20] <arrick> patrick52222, which server?
[03:20] <_kalm> i write the /msg *name* *message* but it doesnt seem to send it... i see it on the screen (to whom i sent it to) >*name*< im a IRC noob, help?
[03:20] <PingPong> _jason: i intend to burn these packages on a cd
[03:21] <ejofee> the small pc (computer case) speaker is /dev/?
[03:21] <patrick52222> arrick: i have installed vsftpd, but what do i do now
[03:21] <_kalm> ps i use xchat
[03:21] <arrick> hang on
[03:21] <phrowzen> _kalm, register to nickserv
[03:21] <PingPong> _jason: i need to transfer these packages to a computer which does not have internet
[03:21] <_jason> PingPong: I see, might want to look into apt-zip
[03:22] <waylandbill> when I mount my samba shares (using the fstab entries) they appear on my desktop. Is there a directive I can put (maybe in the fstab) to prevent that?
[03:22] <thoreauputic> _kalm: if you /msg someone, in xchat for example you see it on the screen, but the recipient gets a new window or tab
[03:22] <PingPong> _jason: once these packages are on there, how do i install them all at once and where do i put em?
[03:22] <thoreauputic> _kalm:  /query will open a new window or tab for you
[03:22] <arrick> hey patrick52222 use this site to help you out then come back with questions http://www.vsftpd.org/
[03:22] <hyphenated> arrick: if you don't know what is limiting the speed, then all you're going to do is change stuff without being able to measure whether it helps or not
[03:22] <thoreauputic> PingPong: erm - synaptic installs stuff automatically
[03:22] <stephen_banks> waylandbill: are you using gnome? because i know that you can change the gconf-editor to stop network shares coming up on the desktop
[03:23] <arrick> hyphenated, ok
[03:23] <patrick52222> ok
[03:23] <chrissis> hi
[03:23] <thoreauputic> PingPong: ah sorry - missed your other post
[03:23] <_jason> PingPong: well apt-zip is made just for what you are doing.  If you just copy the debs over, you could try just dpkg -i *.deb, but I have no idea if that works correctly
[03:23] <arrick> hyphenated, I have 700mhz 128mb ram and thats all I know about the box, other than its a mini
[03:23] <fyrestrtr> 10 gigs enough for ubuntu?
[03:23] <arrick> fyrestrtr, yes
[03:23] <rem_> hey ... how can ubuntu be installed from just a floppy drive and a wifi card ... ?
[03:24] <arrick> fyrestrtr, I instaleed it on a 3 gig
[03:24] <fyrestrtr> okay -- gonna try something stupid -- vista and ubuntu dual boot :D
[03:24] <arrick> originally
[03:24] <waylandbill> fyrestrtr: 3 gig is good
[03:24] <PingPong> _jason: apt-zip seems handy
[03:24] <arrick> fyrestrtr, your right about the word you used
[03:24] <arrick> haha
[03:24] <hyphenated> arrick: that's fine. and now monitor CPU, disk IO, free memory and swap utilization for a while, and see if any of those things need to be changed
[03:24] <thoreauputic> fyrestrtr: cross platform virus, eh? *g*
[03:24] <hyphenated> arrick: and distinguish between apache CPU usage and whatever backend you're using too.
[03:24] <arrick> fyrestrtr, do you have the vista installed already?
[03:25] <arrick> hyphenated, backend as in os?
[03:25] <hyphenated> arrick: no, backend as in a database, if you're using one
[03:25] <arrick> none
[03:25] <waylandbill> stephen_banks: right now I'm using kde, but it does it under both... that'll get me half way there at least. ;-)
[03:25] <fouldsy> 
[03:25] <PingPong> _jason: so how exactly would i use apt-zip then?
[03:25] <rem_> ...or is there a way to install ubunutu from windows ... ?
[03:25] <stephen_banks> waylandbill: hmm, im not sure how to get it working in kde
[03:26] <arrick> rem
[03:26] <waylandbill> rem_: colinux, but that's probably not what you mean.
[03:26] <rem_> Id like to install ubuntu on this laptop and all i have is a floppy drive a wifi card, and win2k installed ..
[03:26] <Plitskin> hmmm...
[03:26] <_jason> PingPong: I've never actually used it myself, you'll have to look at the manpage
[03:27] <hyphenated> rem_: not even a CD drive?
[03:27] <Plitskin> guys, are thing inside the /etc/init.d automatically executed at startup?
[03:27] <arrick> rem_, are you wanting dual boot? or just ubuntu?
[03:27] <hyphenated> Plitskin: no
[03:27] <Plitskin> can I just put any random file in there with my script in it?
[03:27] <PingPong> _jason: might as well. Thanks
[03:27] <rem_> lol...it would be easy if i had a cd drive ,.. :P
[03:27] <_jason> Plitskin: man update-rc.d
[03:27] <Plitskin> hyphenated: thanks
[03:27] <waylandbill> Plitskin: they're run at certain runlevels.
[03:27] <rem_> just ubuntu...or even dual if i can get ubuntu taht way ..
[03:28] <Plitskin> _jason: thanks
[03:28] <stephen_banks> waylandbill: just to let you know, the settings to change are in gconf-editor, apps -> nautilus ->desktop -> volumes visible, but im not sure if this will stop any removable devices from showing
[03:28] <arrick> who is xerxes13?
[03:28] <fyrestrtr> arrick: yeah :)
[03:28] <Plitskin> waylandbill: any recommended readings?
[03:28] <IceTox> Catch ya'll later =)
[03:28] <waylandbill> stephen_banks: ok. I'll do that.
[03:28] <arrick> fyrestrtr, shouldnt be more than a dualboot install then
[03:29] <fyrestrtr> yeah have done it before, I just hope it doesn't fubar the IBM protected boot area.
[03:29] <arrick> Why would soneome send me a file without notifying me in here first?
[03:29] <rem_> i guess i could take the drive out, and recompile a kernel for my laptop ...but i dont have a 2nd laptop or an adaptor to plug the drive in a atx case ...
[03:29] <arrick> xerxes13, who are you?
[03:29] <fyrestrtr> arrick: report it, could be a virus, spammer.
[03:29] <rem_> anyone knows a way...i think mandrake you could start the install from windows ..
[03:30] <arrick> xerxes13, I dont accept from people I dont know
[03:30] <fyrestrtr> rem_: reboot the pc with the install cd inside.
[03:30] <ejofee> the small pc (computer case) speaker is /dev/?
[03:30] <arrick> !ops
[03:30] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[03:30] <rem_> I have no cd drive ...
[03:30] <Hobbsee> arrick: ?
[03:30] <fyrestrtr> rem_: network boot? floppy?
[03:30] <rem_> yea
[03:30] <Hobbsee> arrick: what's the problem?
[03:30] <patrick52222> i opened and edited  vi /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf how do i save and exit it
[03:30] <rem_> floppy....or maybe wifi card ..
[03:30] <arrick> Hobbsee, I havea  xerxes13 trying to send me a file and I want whoever it is stoped, cause I dont know them
[03:31] <fyrestrtr> patrick52222: esc :wq
[03:31] <thoreauputic> arrick: ?
[03:31] <apokryphos> arrick: do NOT misuse the !ops call.
[03:31] <rem_> any tutorial on that ?
[03:31] <waylandbill> Plitskin: this shows how to write them. don't know if it applies to what you're trying to accomplish: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html
[03:31] <fyrestrtr> patrick52222: hit escape, then type : then wq then hit enter
[03:31] <xerxes13> ple
[03:31] <apokryphos> arrick: quite a quick way to get banned.
[03:31] <xerxes13> kakoi nna fail
[03:31] <arrick> ok, thought that was why they were here sorry
[03:31] <Hobbsee> arrick: they are in this channel, but they can send thing to you regardless of if they are in the channel or not
[03:32] <_jason> arrick: just /ignore xerxes13
[03:32] <Plitskin> waylandbill: thanks  ;)
[03:32] <thoreauputic> arrick: you've heard the story of the boy who cried "Wolf!" I suppose...
[03:32] <rem_> is there a boot floppy for ubuntu, that has drivers for wifi cards included .. ?
[03:32] <patrick52222> it does nt work
[03:32] <arrick> apokryphos, I was actually just trying to get the names of the ops sorry
[03:32] <xerxes13> zdesi na ruskom ktoto razgovarivaet?
[03:32] <gnomefreak> _jason: wont that only ignore in channel not server tab?
[03:32] <_jason> gnomefreak: want to test?
[03:32] <_jason> I'm not actually sure
[03:32] <gnomefreak> _jason: sure
[03:32] <thoreauputic> arrick: that sets off the ops beeps or notifications
[03:32] <fyrestrtr> arrick: /msg obotu ops or !tell arrick about ops works well without spamming the chan
[03:32] <apokryphos> arrick: you should use /chanserv access #channel list
[03:33] <fyrestrtr> arrick: I don't know if that triggers the op alarm or not
[03:33] <fyrestrtr> use at own risk.
[03:33] <gnomefreak> _jason: how do i unignore you after?
[03:33] <patrick52222> fyrestrtr: when i press Esc it doesnt do any thing
[03:33] <arrick> ok guys thatnks
[03:33] <thoreauputic> xerxes13: english here
[03:33] <fyrestrtr> patrick52222: its not supposed to do anything
[03:33] <fyrestrtr> patrick52222: just trust me, its vi :)
[03:33] <fyrestrtr> hit escape
[03:33] <waylandbill> rem_: not that I know of. you have to use one from another distro. I have a laptop with dead cd rom...so I know... the easiest is to put into a desktop with a 2.5->3.5 adapter if that's your situation
[03:34] <fyrestrtr> then type : - you will see : on the bottom of your screen
[03:34] <patrick52222> fyrestrtr: yep hit ESC then
[03:34] <stephen_banks> :wq
[03:34] <stephen_banks> it should exit, saved
[03:34] <fyrestrtr> then type wq so the bottom of your screen is :wq then hit enter
[03:34] <fyrestrtr> wq = write + quit
[03:35] <rem_> msg waylandbill ok ...and recompile kernel to the laptop specifications i guess ..
[03:36] <waylandbill> rem_: default kernel worked for me.
[03:36] <rem_> ok
[03:37] <patrick52222> fyrestrtr: can you try and ftp me please
[03:37] <fyrestrtr> ???
[03:37] <fyrestrtr> what is your IP address?
[03:37] <patrick52222>  	86.0.251.110
[03:38] <super> how to connect to windows remotedesktop through VNC?
[03:38] <arrick> !tell xerxes13 about restricted
[03:39] <super> how to connect to windows remotedesktop through VPN?
[03:39] <ll> Hi
[03:39] <thoreauputic> super: don't repeat
[03:39] <ejofee> !dev
[03:39] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ejofee
[03:39] <ll> I'm having a strage problem
[03:39] <ll> i can't share my internet connection
[03:39] <fyrestrtr> super: Applications --> Internet --> Terminal Server Client
[03:39] <ejofee> ll: and why is this strange?
[03:40] <fyrestrtr> patrick52222: connection timed out
[03:40] <thoreauputic> super: use the terminal sever app under applications - internet
[03:40] <arrick> !tell xerxes13 about wine
[03:40] <gnomefreak> arrick: /ignore <usrname> will stop the d.c.c s.e.n.d.s
[03:40] <ll> first 1 installed firestarter
[03:40] <super> ok
[03:40] <arrick> gnomefreak, I have in a pm right now, didnt know protocal
[03:40] <patrick52222> fyrestrtr: ok thanks for tryiing
[03:40] <ll> then i configured my eth0 as 100.100.100.1 255.0.0.0
[03:41] <ejofee> ll: avoid 100.*
[03:41] <ejofee> ll: i recommend 10.*
[03:41] <stephen_banks> yeh, i always go for 192.168.*
[03:41] <bolsh> eft???
[03:41] <gnomefreak> arrick: just letting you know for future (we had to test it
[03:41] <arrick> thanks you gnomefreak
[03:41] <bolsh> what's an eft?
[03:41] <ll> ok
[03:41] <ejofee> ll: 100.* is taken
[03:41] <thoreauputic> !eft
[03:41] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, thoreauputic
[03:41] <arrick> gnomefreak, is there any way to turn off dcc?
[03:41] <thoreauputic> heh
[03:41] <ejofee> ll: it creates confusion
[03:42] <ll> ok I was told to try 192.168.0.1 but my modem is usig it so i'll try 10.*
[03:42] <arrick> ll, try womething that starts with 10, 192, or
[03:43] <arrick> hey ll you can use 192.168.1.1 as well
[03:43] <gnomefreak> arrick: i dont see a way in /help dcc
[03:43] <arrick> or 2.1
[03:43] <arrick> thanks gnomefreak
[03:43] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:43] <sobbbber> how can i update gnome to 2.14 in ubuntu (breezy)?
[03:43] <arrick> by the way morning gnomefreak
[03:43] <thoreauputic> !eft
[03:43] <ubotu> from memory, eft is a newt in its terrestrial stage of development
[03:43] <ll> even if my modem is using 192.168.0.1?
[03:43] <thoreauputic> :)
[03:43] <patrick52222> fyrestrtr: when i edited the vi way i got this after do :wq
[03:43] <thoreauputic> !good bot
[03:43] <walden> thoreauputic: :D
[03:43] <ubotu> :)
[03:43] <arrick> at least we all know the ops are awake due to my mistake gnomefreak
[03:43] <patrick52222> fyrestrtr:             139,1         Bot
[03:43] <arrick> haha
[03:44] <stephen_banks> patrcik52222: thats the line count in vi
[03:44] <patrick52222> E45: 'readonly' option is set (add ! to override)
[03:45] <stephen_banks> then you're editing a file you cant write to
[03:45] <stephen_banks> are you running vi as root?
[03:45] <Snorre_Ruch> ll: if your new to networking, you may find it easier to : apt-get install ipmasq
[03:45] <arrick> !bot snack
[03:45] <ubotu> thanks arrick :)
[03:45] <ejofee> the modem and the sharing device must be on two different networks, so yes, even then
[03:46] <ejofee> ll: the modem and the sharing device must be on two different networks, so yes, even then
[03:46] <SKunsai379> Hey, can someone help me out with a quick question?
[03:46] <mikkelk> I'm trying to  get XGL/Conpiz working in Dapper, but i have to change something in the key "plugins" in apps/compiz/general/all screens/options in the configuration editor, but i don't have a "plugins" key, only "Active_plugins", "autoraise", "autoraise-delay", "click to focus" and "texture_filter".  Should i just create the key then?
[03:46] <Pipe> Hi, how can I add aditional languages to may ubuntu box?
[03:46] <thoreauputic> !tell SKunsai379 about ask
[03:46] <waylandbill> gnomefreak: lol
[03:46] <SKunsai379> ask
[03:46] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: beware !
[03:46] <SKunsai379> ?
[03:46] <fyrestrtr> seems ubuntu's installer doesn't like vista's partition
[03:46] <walden> hehe
[03:46] <bolsh> thoreauputic: It's apparently the name of 5.06 + 1
[03:47] <bolsh> thoreauputic: Edgy Eft
[03:47] <sobbbber> hi. how can i set ubuntu to automatically mount my hd on boot/start-up?
[03:47] <patrick52222> stephen_banks: cheers it worked when i done sudo
[03:47] <waylandbill> fyrestrtr: vista use ntfs still?
[03:47] <arrick> fyrestrtr, I dont think it was written with it in mind, but you can tweak it and submit it to the others
[03:47] <arrick> haha
[03:47] <stephen_banks> patrick52222: you're welcome ^_^
[03:47] <thoreauputic> bolsh: erm, yes I get the announces - but thanks
[03:47] <thoreauputic> :0
[03:47] <fyrestrtr> waylandbill: nope.
[03:47] <thoreauputic> !eft
[03:47] <ubotu> [eft]  a newt in its terrestrial stage of development - the release after Dapper will be called Edgy Eft
[03:47] <waylandbill> fyrestrtr: curious, what's it use now?
[03:47] <_jason> #ubuntu+2?
[03:48] <Snorre_Ruch> waylandbill: winfs
[03:48] <Snorre_Ruch> waylandbill: oh wait maybe in a few years
[03:48] <bolsh> thoreauputic: You asked ubotu earlier, who didn't know, so I was wondering
[03:48] <sobbbber> hello. help please.. hi. how can i set ubuntu to automatically mount my hd on boot/start-up?
[03:48] <SKunsai379> Oh.
[03:48] <thoreauputic> bolsh: I was seeing if someone else had made a factoid
[03:48] <walden> !mount
[03:48] <ubotu> hmm... mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[03:48] <arrick> !mount
[03:48] <thoreauputic> bolsh: I made one :)
[03:48] <SKunsai379> I wanted to know if anyone's had odd experiences with PPC Ubuntu.
[03:49] <arrick> walden, you beat me :^(:::::
[03:49] <waylandbill> Does vista still read FAT and NTFS though?
[03:49] <bolsh> ah
[03:49] <SKunsai379> Trying to run it on a G3 iMac.
[03:49] <bolsh> danke
[03:49] <walden> hehe, arrick
[03:49] <walden> i'm jobless.. waiting for the update to complete.
[03:49] <bolsh> SKunsai379: Only odd experiences.
[03:49] <arrick> me too
[03:49] <bolsh> SKunsai379: What's your problem?
[03:49] <PreZWork> OK, this may sound silly - but I'm a Gentoo use right now, but considering a switch possibly to a non-source based distro, and I've heard a lot about ubuntu - the question is what is the major reason to use ubuntu?
[03:49] <ompaul> waylandbill, ask in ##windows please, :-)
[03:49] <thoreauputic> SKunsai379: I run breezy on an iBookG4
[03:49] <arrick> PreZWork, Ubuntu ROCKS
[03:50] <PreZWork> arrick: what a useless reply.
[03:50] <ompaul> PreZWork, cos you don't want to do Gentoo any more, it works well, it has a good community around it
[03:50] <waylandbill> ompaul: ok. I'll just forget it entirely. :-)
[03:50] <SKunsai379> I gave a friend of mine the PPC Ubuntu CD, and her iMac G3 boots up but freezes and the screen goes black before GNOME starts.
[03:50] <SKunsai379> Any ideas?
[03:50] <proffrinx> how big is the hard drive?
[03:50] <SKunsai379> LiveCD.
[03:50] <mcmillen> this is minor (though major for me): if you're a Python programmer, Ubuntu has great python support.
[03:50] <fyrestrtr> waylandbill: yes
[03:50] <arrick> PreZWork, a lot of support from users who knwo what they are doing, such as in here
[03:50] <SKunsai379> HD is I think 5 GB.
[03:50] <ompaul> waylandbill, there actually is such a channel
[03:50] <proffrinx> I have never gotten the G3 iMac to work with a live CD
[03:50] <Plitskin> hi, I have a directory owned by root... I want it to be accessible by all users so I did  chmod a+rw mydirectory but I still can't access the directory
[03:51] <ejofee> arrick: if you think ubuntu rocks, then you are free to choose any other distro. nobody forces you to use ubuntu.
[03:51] <Snorre_Ruch> PreZWork: solid debian foundation, rad community, dependable release cycle, stable
[03:51] <SKunsai379> And she can't exactly install yet.
[03:51] <proffrinx> the only way I got ubuntu to install on the G3 iMac was to use a smallish hard drive
[03:51] <Plitskin> I already did sudo -s to have a root shell
[03:51] <PreZWork> arrick: 'k.  I know ubuntu is based off debian - does it follow Debian's philosophy of 'nothing that is not open source'?  ie. will I be able to use my proprietary drivers and such OK?
[03:51] <waylandbill> I used Gentoo. The time you save from having to compile emerges is reason enough for me to change.. not to mention I prefer stable over bleeding edge
[03:51] <SKunsai379> Problem is that she has no space for dual boot.
[03:51] <tonyyarusso> Plitskin: What directory?
[03:51] <thoreauputic> Plitskin: don't do that - add your users to a group and give froup permissions onm the directory
[03:51] <fyrestrtr> PreZWork: yes
[03:51] <PreZWork> waylandbill: I run Gentoo with ~x86 - ie. I stay on the bleeding edge ;)
[03:52] <thoreauputic> s/froup/group
[03:52] <Plitskin> tonyyarusso: I'm not user if I was the one who made it or my download manager... It's called MyDownloads
[03:52] <PreZWork> I assume ubuntu is easily upgradable (ie. for upgrading the entire system) - Can I do an ubuntu install without X (ie. server-only)?
[03:52] <waylandbill> ompaul: I'm sure there is.
[03:52] <Snorre_Ruch> PreZWork:  thats one of the beauties, repositories with those sort of things, not included but just a vi away
[03:52] <fyrestrtr> PreZWork: yes
[03:52] <tonyyarusso> Plitskin: You mean you're not the owner?
[03:52] <arrick> ejofee, ok, guys, when an American says something like Ubuntu Rocks, it means it is awesome, its not derogatory, sorry if it means otherwise where youa re from.
[03:52] <mcmillen> another thing i like about ubuntu -- all the package management heaven of debian, but you get stable distributions every 6 months instead of every 3 years
[03:53] <Plitskin> tonyyarusso: it seems that way...
[03:53] <robinl1> hey, how to set my internal ip to 10.0.0.155 instead of using DHCP?
[03:53] <arrick> morning tonyyarusso
[03:53] <tonyyarusso> arrick: Hey.
[03:53] <alex__> e
[03:53] <ejofee> arrick: oh, i see. mea culpa.
[03:53] <Plitskin> tonyyarusso: I must have created it when I was still logged in as sudo -s
[03:53] <fyrestrtr> robinl1: System -> Administration -> Networking
[03:53] <tonyyarusso> Plitskin: I'm assuming this is in your home directory but created incorrectly.
[03:53] <PreZWork> mcmillen: do distributions matter with ubuntu?  ie. is there a way I can run it so when I update, I have the latest, even if I last did a clean install 5 years ago?
[03:53] <walden> make it static from dynamic
[03:54] <fyrestrtr> PreZWork: yes
[03:54] <mcmillen> PreZWork: yes
[03:54] <Snorre_Ruch> PreZWork: there is actually a ubuntu server distro
[03:54] <tonyyarusso> Plitskin: Okay, then you can do something like 'sudo chown plitskin:plitskin /home/plitskin/MyDownloads'
[03:54] <mcmillen> PreZWork: i mean, aside from the fact that ubuntu hasn't been around for 5 years yet :)
[03:54] <ompaul> PreZWork, we also have one of the coolest wiki pages anywhere };-> wiki.ubuntu.com/Root btw thats what stopped me from going back to debian I did it for a week and was hooked
[03:54] <Snorre_Ruch> PreZWork: or project i sghould say
[03:54] <Plitskin> tonyyarusso: Yes it is in my home directory
[03:54] <thoreauputic> PreZWork: you cn upgrade from one release to the next
[03:54] <walden> umm, a dist-upgrade from a old release to a new release number will not break things?
[03:54] <waylandbill> or from one release to the latest
[03:54] <fyrestrtr> walden: for some definitions of 'break things' no.
[03:54] <tonyyarusso> Plitskin: And thoreauputic is right, if you want to let others see it, it would be better to create a group and add them then a+rw.
[03:55] <Plitskin> tonyyarusso: ok, will try that now...
[03:55] <thoreauputic> walden: not if it's one step ( eg hoary > breezy
[03:55] <waylandbill> I'm always wary of it though
[03:55] <walden> i read in the forums. people had problems from 4->5, it was not recommended.
[03:55] <walden> i am sure there will be more than one release in 5 years, thoreauputic
[03:55] <Plitskin> tonyyarusso: yeah, that's a logical suggestion
[03:55] <tonyyarusso> walden: 4->5?  There is no 5...
[03:55] <Snorre_Ruch> walden: always fixable, probably not recoomended for prod machines or the inexperienced
[03:55] <walden> 5.04
[03:55] <thoreauputic> walden: I wasn't suggesting that you could jump that many releases :)
[03:55] <walden> lol
[03:55] <ompaul> walden, if your machine is not full of rubbish and is a clean box it whould work 4.10 - 5.04 had issues but if your on 5.04 or 5.10 then moving one step at a time is pretty okay
[03:56] <PreZWork> also - two-part question here - 1) does ubuntu have different compiles of things so that I don't have to have i386 compatible binaries (ie. not-optimized) on my athlon-mp?  and 2) how does ubuntu handle things like dependancies - eg. whether I do or do not want a version of X application with LDAP support (for example)?
[03:56] <mcmillen> walden: i had problems with mysql 4 -> mysql 5 on upgrading to dapper, but i think that would be a problem no matter what distro was used (more of a mysql problem than an ubuntu one)
[03:56] <walden> one step at a time is different from step 1-step 10. he wants the latest from old.
[03:56] <agliv5> thoreauputic Thanks for all your help yesterday :)  I'm sorry to say that since then something has gone wrong.  Upon attempting to reboot it's not geting any further than /etc/init.d/bootclean.sh: line 42 read only file system
[03:56] <PreZWork> (ie. in the case of 'do' it has to be compiled with LDAP support, in the case of 'do not', I do not want to have to install LDAP at all (if it was one compile, I would still need the ldap libs, even if I didn't want them and did not use them)
[03:56] <walden> which is what someone had done. and it didn't work. in the forums. /me has no clue though
[03:57] <tonyyarusso> walden: Have to do it in increments.  That's the only way that' supported.
[03:57] <walden> my 4th with with linux and loving it!
[03:57] <walden> wee, week
[03:57] <Plitskin> tonyyarusso: thanks, that did it :D
[03:57] <tonyyarusso> Plitskin: Good stuff.
[03:57] <waylandbill> PreZWork: you can always use source and optimize it yourself.
[03:57] <thoreauputic> PreZWork: I think you are gentoo material :) Debian distros don't go to that extent
[03:57] <ompaul> PreZWork, 1) yes 2) not if you step outside the versions with the release, you have to then manage them yourself, the release gets patched along the way if there are security issues or some other *compelling* reason but you pretty much keep the same software from day one of a release to end of life, reason stability :-)
[03:57] <agliv5> thoreauputic now it's saying /var/run/cardmgr.pid read-only file system
[03:57] <thoreauputic> agliv5: sorry, I don't remember your issue to be honest
[03:58] <vel> is it possible to install ubuntu thru knoppix?
[03:58] <PreZWork> 'k - thanks :)
[03:58] <agliv5> thoreauputic it's a new issue now I can't reboot
[03:58] <waylandbill> I never needed so much optimization that I need to worry about it. I get paid by the hour. ;-)
[03:58] <thoreauputic> vel: probably, but probably tricky
[03:59] <mcmillen> vel: not AFAIK, though there is an ubuntu livecd, if that's what you're looking for
[03:59] <ompaul> PreZWork, gentoo and ubuntu/debian are as different as gentoo / and some rpm based distro but its a nicer difference :-)
[03:59] <PreZWork> finally, can I install ubuntu with a small disk footprint (eg. less than 1gb ram)
[03:59] <mcmillen> 1gb ram, or hd?
[03:59] <thoreauputic> PreZWork: you can install a server Ubuntu in less than 1G hdd
[03:59] <PreZWork> ompaul: I know they're different since gentoo is source based, I'm just trying to get a feel of how fine-grained the control is in ubuntu for handling things like dependancies, and optimizing for different architectures, etc.
[03:59] <agliv5> it hung for about 5 min with a read only file system error now it's saying that the x server couldn't be startet due to internal errors
[04:00] <PreZWork> thoreauputic: cool :)
[04:00] <thoreauputic> PreZWork: in fact you can have a light GUI as well
[04:00] <thoreauputic> PreZWork: e.g. fluxbox, maybe xfce4
[04:00] <PreZWork> heh, my servers are all connected to a KVM which goes to a monitor that is so old that I wouldn't WANT to do anything more than text mode on it :P
[04:01] <thoreauputic> PreZWork: dependancies are not a problem with apt
[04:01] <agliv5> thoreauputic it's now saying that the x-server couldn't start due to internal errors
[04:01] <ompaul> PreZWork, in terms of finegranded it is not gentoo, it "locks a bundle" together and maintains that as a stable platform then you get a release which pushes version numbers upwards
[04:01] <ejofee> the small pc (computer case) speaker is /dev/?
[04:01] <thoreauputic> agliv5: have you tried  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ?
[04:02] <ejofee> !dsp
[04:02] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ejofee
[04:02] <ll> Hey guys I tried to do the changes I changed the Ip addres to 10.0.0.1 but I still can't connect
[04:02] <eucaris> Hi, I'd like to get some help, can anyone do it?
[04:02] <agliv5> thoreauputic I'm currently at the login
[04:02] <Xardas> good morning
[04:02] <ll> i did this steps
[04:02] <thoreauputic> agliv5: so try the command i gave you
[04:02] <Xardas> how could i convert a xml in a lilypond-file?
[04:03] <thoreauputic> agliv5:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:03] <ejofee> ll: connect to what?
[04:03] <ll>  iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
[04:03] <ll> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[04:03] <ll> apt-get install dnsmasq ipmasq
[04:03] <ejofee> ll: are the two computers on the same network?
[04:03] <ll> /etc/init.d/dnsmasq restart
[04:03] <ll> is
[04:04] <ll> i can share the files
[04:04] <munzir> Hi, most apps I launch from a terminal shows: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169   Major opcode:  147  Minor opcode:  3 Failed to open device
[04:04] <ll> i can do ping 10.0.0.2
[04:04] <i9663> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[04:04] <e7893> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[04:04] <apokryphos> hm
[04:04] <wm0t> wow thats cool
[04:04] <_jason> bots vs. bots
[04:04] <thoreauputic> thank goodness for Ubugtu
[04:04] <ompaul> apokryphos, it works :-)
[04:04] <PreZWork> thanks for your help with the questions :)
[04:04] <nalioth_zZz> no, not really, apokryphos
[04:04] <nalioth> anyone seen seveas today?
[04:04] <_jason> nalioth: he was here earlier
[04:05] <thoreauputic> nalioth: he was here earlier
[04:05] <thoreauputic> heh
[04:05] <ejofee> nalioth: i think not
[04:05] <thoreauputic> _jason: stop messing with my mind! *grin*
[04:05] <Seveas> apokryphos, don't
[04:05] <Seveas> please leave +R on
[04:05] <ejofee> nalioth: but i can't speak for everybody
[04:05] <apokryphos> oh, testing something
[04:05] <mcf501> hi i am trying to complie some opengl for a project i have my uni uses mesa-4.0. I am having trouble compiling the example code (on dapper)
[04:05] <munzir> !seen seveas
[04:05] <ubotu> seveas is currently on #kubuntu (1h 26m 54s) #ubuntu+1 (1h 26m 54s) #ubuntu-offtopic (1h 26m 54s) #edubuntu (1h 26m 54s) #kubuntu-offtopic (1h 26m 54s) #ubuntu (1h 26m 54s)
[04:05] <Plitskin> brb
[04:06] <apokryphos> ...
[04:06] <apokryphos> few members in here are registered ;-)
[04:07] <gnomefreak> i should/better be ;)
[04:07] <blk> i have a usb device (touchscreen) behaving strangely: it connects, then disconnect and so on until i pull the plug - i've seen something simliar with a usb-pen on: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=150804 - take a look at his dmesg - can someone give me a hint on this one?
[04:07] <apokryphos> it's not really realistic to have, though
[04:07] <apokryphos> Seveas: why?
[04:07] <thoreauputic> all thos e who can't speak: do  /msg nickserv register <password>
[04:07] <ompaul> apokryphos, you will be banning ips every few minutes all day otherwise :-(
[04:07] <gnomefreak> +R is good on those days_o_soam
[04:08] <apokryphos> ompaul: what, there are new IRC flooders?
[04:08] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: lots
[04:08] <gnomefreak> spam even
[04:08] <ompaul> apokryphos, lots of it
[04:08] <DarkED> hi, has anyone here tried a splash image for grub?
[04:08] <apokryphos> hm, must've missed them
[04:08] <Hobbsee> urgh, not more of them...
[04:08] <apokryphos> I'd really rather use the +r method and have -unregged
[04:08] <Hobbsee> apokryphos: the latest guy only got two lines in...
[04:08] <gnomefreak> +f is new to me
[04:08] <Hobbsee> new to me too...
[04:09] <Hobbsee> wonder what it is
[04:09] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: forces to the new channel when user doesn't have access to this one or there's overload
[04:09] <gnomefreak> scared to ask
[04:09] <gnomefreak> oh i remember that one
[04:09] <jgonzalez_> hola
[04:09] <jgonzalez_> hello
[04:09] <technical> i have just installed ubuntu
[04:09] <ll> .
[04:09] <jgonzalez_> yes
[04:09] <technical> and am struggling with a few things
[04:09] <WK|Dutchy> ok
[04:10] <apokryphos> technical: shoot
[04:10] <agliv5> technical like what?
[04:10] <arrick> apokryphos, you should see how mad they get when you paste the spam back into thier channel and send the msg to all of their ops
[04:10] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[04:10] <Hobbsee> that could be kinda fun to try
[04:10] <ll> Does any one know how to solve my problem?
[04:10] <arrick> hey guys this was an ops reply
 some loser who have a lot of time is doing that to give us bad reputation :\
[04:11] <apokryphos> hm
[04:11] <sobbbber> how do i install dashboard (http://www.nat.org/dashboard) on ubuntu?
[04:11] <arrick> he also claims those are not his bots
[04:11] <thoreauputic> arrick: afaik the chanel is innocent so please don't spam them
[04:11] <arrick> I wont
[04:11] <agliv5> thoreauputic can#t open read only file system
[04:12] <ompaul> it is some kind of turkish linux / open source thing
[04:12] <arrick> I dont like it so I dont do it, unless I notice a bot, then I contact to findo out if its a clone
[04:12] <thoreauputic> agliv5: erm that suggests the hard disk isn't mounted, or rather is mounted read only
[04:12] <agliv5> thoreauputic what can I do to correct this?
[04:13] <thoreauputic> agliv5: I don't really know, sorry - what hardware are you using ?
[04:13] <arrick> what's you think in there _jason ?
[04:14] <agliv5> thoreauputic it's a fijitsu siemens amilo M7405 Notebook
[04:14] <thoreauputic> agliv5: just shot in the dark - have you tried running the installer with acpi=off  ?
[04:14] <munzir> Hello, Why would I need w32codecs? to play which files? I already can play .avi and wmv
[04:15] <thoreauputic> agliv5: also I suggest looking at the wiki about laptops
[04:15] <arrick> wma, mp3
[04:15] <DarkED> um
[04:15] <thoreauputic> agliv5: I don't have theurl...
[04:15] <DarkED> something just happened to my mouse
[04:15] <arrick> !wiki
[04:15] <gnomefreak> munzir: there are more than just those in that package but all depends on your needs
[04:16] <waylandbill> munzir: wma
[04:16] <DarkED> i just lost all functionality of my mouse, and there is a 'no' symbol for my cursor
[04:16] <munzir> gnomefreak: can you give me just one format that i can't play without it so I know?
[04:16] <RabidWeezle> ubotu, codecs
[04:16] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[04:16] <munzir> waylandbill: ah
[04:16] <gnomefreak> munzir: no i dont have any use for them but the package is huge
[04:16] <RabidWeezle> !w32codecs
[04:17] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[04:17] <agliv5> thoreauputic I rebooted again and got to loading deamon then a list of things the system is checking and it stoped at /etc/init.d/bootclean.sh: line 42 /tmp/.clean: read only file system  *restoring resolver state... *setting up networking...  * Starting system log daemon...  .socket: address already in usenly
[04:18] <mcf501> undefined reference to  `glutInit'
[04:18] <walden> later guys. night from here.
[04:18] <jadaz87> does anyone know if there is going to be a media center version of ubuntu?
[04:18] <thoreauputic> agliv5: sorry but I don't know what the problem is - I don't know enough about laptops and hardware to help you
[04:19] <mcf501> i am having problems compling some opengl ^ is the error, any ideas on how to fix that?
[04:19] <thoreauputic> agliv5: which is why I suggest you search the wiki for laptop info
[04:20] <RabidWeezle> !gmplayer?
[04:20] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RabidWeezle
[04:20] <RabidWeezle> hey, mplayer isn't showing up in any of the repos?
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> multiverse
[04:21] <apokryphos> RabidWeezle: /msg ubotu mplayer
[04:21] <RabidWeezle> I enabled multiverse
[04:21] <arrick> RabidWeezle, try googling it
[04:21] <gnomefreak> RabidWeezle: did you enable backports multiverse or real multiverse?
[04:21] <mcf501> !glut
[04:21] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mcf501
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> and its mplayer-`uname -r`
[04:21] <RabidWeezle> lemme check backports
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> iirc
[04:22] <mcf501> !mesa
[04:22] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mcf501
[04:22] <gnomefreak> Kamping_Kaiser: mplayer-arch
[04:22] <agliv5> thoreauputic It was working just fine yesterday, and all this morning then I installed some programms and all kinds of gremlins appeared like a hard drive for root a copy of the root hd root(2) every time I mounted / unmounted the cdrom a new drive appeared... and so on
[04:22] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell mcf501 about msg the bot
[04:22] <CraiZE> gnomefreak,
[04:22] <gnomefreak> CraiZE: ?
[04:22] <CraiZE> remember when i was whining there was no tool to mount iso's through GUI ?
[04:22] <CraiZE> well, i solved the problem: http://www.project-scar.com/CraiZE/My%20Apps/ISOMount/isomount.jpg
[04:22] <CraiZE> ;)
[04:22] <gnomefreak> CraiZE: yeah
[04:22] <CraiZE> brb smoke :D
[04:23] <agliv5> thoreauputic I'd just install ubuntu except I had about 700MB data in tmp that I don't want destroyed
[04:24] <agliv5> thoreauputic or is it possible to reinstall Ubuntu without reformating?
[04:24] <robinl1> how to get the SVN version of xfce?
[04:25] <thoreauputic> agliv5: not as far as I know - why not boot up knoppix or some live CD and copy your data across the network, or dump it on a USB stick or whatever ?
[04:26] <fyrestrtr> I'd say eye candy in vista is just about at the same level as OS X -- and that's when my system rating is 2 (highest being 5)
[04:26] <fyrestrtr> agliv5: what is wrong? why do you want to reinstall?
[04:26] <agliv5> thoreauputic that's a very good idea :)  I'll see what the smalest live cd is and then go that path
[04:26] <SirKillalot> how do I use a regexp in bash?
[04:27] <agliv5> fyrestrtr because everything is all messed up
[04:27] <fyrestrtr> SirKillalot: #bash
[04:27] <_jason> SirKillalot: grep? what do you want to do with it?
[04:27] <SirKillalot> _jason, yeah, maybe in grep
[04:27] <fyrestrtr> what do you want to match?
[04:27] <SirKillalot> lets say
[04:28] <agliv5> fyrestrtr apparently Ubuntu is mounting my hard drive read only and therfore can not load properly
[04:28] <SirKillalot> I want to search a word out of a sentence
[04:28] <SirKillalot> "Hello are you there" should return "are" when I search for a[ro] e
[04:28] <fyrestrtr> grep word file-that-contains-sentence.txt
[04:28] <SirKillalot> grep will return the whole line
[04:28] <_jason> egrep -o 'a[ro] e'
[04:28] <agliv5> fyrestrtr If you have any other suggestions on how I can get back into Ubuntu easier than reinstalling, let me know :)
[04:29] <mcf501> if i downlaod and install mesa from mesa3d.org will it confilct with the opengl ubuntu ships with?
[04:29] <kickfacce> is there a way to make one of my soundcards non existent?
[04:29] <fyrestrtr> agliv5: still don't understand what is the problem, your drive is being mounted ro only?
[04:29] <fyrestrtr> kickfacce: I assume you mean other than unplugging it
[04:29] <kickfacce> fyrestrtr, yeah this is onboard i want to disable it or something
[04:30] <afief> Will there be a Beta release of Dapper Drake tomorrow? my ubuntu broke and i can't fix it, so if they are releasing the beta i'll install that
[04:30] <fyrestrtr> kickfacce: check your bios
[04:30] <kickfacce> fyrestrtr, isn't there a way in ubuntu to just remove it?
[04:31] <Frogzoo> SirKillalot: man 7 regex
[04:32] <agliv5> fyrestrtr you've been in the forum long enough to scroll up and read the complete error description that I sent to thoreauputic...  I'd copy&paste for you but I don't know how...
[04:32] <fyrestrtr> kickfacce: I don't know , you could unload the module.
[04:33] <fyrestrtr> 'then I installed some programms' <-- what did you install?
[04:34] <afief> Will there be a beta release tomorrow? my system is broken and i need a new install
[04:34] <Frogzoo> !dapper
[04:34] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[04:35] <we2by> hi, what version of gnome does Ubuntu come with?
[04:35] <fyrestrtr> afief: latest beta is flight6 iirc
[04:35] <j0hannes> hi
[04:35] <agliv5> fyrestrtr Licq & k3b along with all the packages needed to complie and get everything running
[04:35] <fyrestrtr> agliv5: you isntalled it from repos, or manually?
[04:36] <afief> fyrestrtr: yes, but i meant if they are going to release a new on(as 20.4 was the original release date)
[04:36] <deathscytheh64> hi, is this the channel i can ask about network hardware not playing nice with ubuntu?
[04:36] <j0hannes> i have a little problem running x. from time to time the system frozes
[04:36] <fyrestrtr> afief: oh that, I don't know. Best ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:36] <fyrestrtr> deathscytheh64: sure
[04:36] <fyrestrtr> j0hannes: it does this when you do something, or just .. randomly?
[04:37] <Frogzoo> deathscytheh64: that's the theory
[04:37] <agliv5> thoreauputic warned me yesterday about running GUIs from a terminal loged in as root, mabye that's what happened...  I installed them manualy
[04:37] <j0hannes> fyrestrtr: both. i can cause it selecting a packet in synaptics for example
[04:37] <deathscytheh64> thanks, i've been having a lot of trouble getting my nice shiny new belkin f5d7011 pcmcia card to work on my laptop
[04:37] <Frogzoo> j0hannes: update your vid driver if possible
[04:38] <agliv5> fyrestrtr did you get that last message, forgot to address it...
[04:38] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: can you tell me how? just a little hint please :)
[04:38] <Frogzoo> j0hannes: just state your problem - if someone in channel can answer, they will
[04:39] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: i mean how to update the driver. isn't apt updating it automatically?
[04:39] <fyrestrtr> just a minute, on another pc brb
[04:40] <Frogzoo> j0hannes: not necessarily - which vid card do you have?
[04:40] <j0hannes> if i use xfce the problem appears in between the first 5 minutes
[04:40] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: lspci says VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
[04:41] <Tortanick> hello everyone
[04:41] <Frogzoo> j0hannes: a model number would help - maybe you can run the fglrx driver
[04:41] <fyrestrtr> man I love IBM. They provide the BEST restore and recovery software with their computers.
[04:41] <Plitskin> anyone using JBOSS here?
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> fyrestrtr: Well, it only restores Windows...
[04:42] <fyrestrtr> agliv5: sorry, I cannot help you beyond a reset.
[04:42] <fyrestrtr> tonyyarusso: nope, all applications too :) it creates 6 CDs -- a complete backup.
[04:42] <Tortanick> dose anyone know how to fix a 530 authentication error on pure-ftpd? only happens when I try to use a virtual user
[04:42] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: how can i get the model number?
[04:42] <fyrestrtr> in fact, it gives you an option -- restore only windows, restore windows and apps, restore hard disk.
[04:42] <Frogzoo> j0hannes: lappie or desktop?
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> fyrestrtr: Well, yeah, but you've still got Windows ;)
[04:43] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: laptop
[04:43] <fyrestrtr> j0hannes: what brand laptop is it?
[04:43] <fyrestrtr> tonyyarusso: only temporarily, dual booting :)
[04:43] <j0hannes> fyrestrtr: its a sony vaio pcg-cimgp
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> fyrestrtr: Okay.  Then I guess we won't eat you.  (I have a T43)
[04:43] <Frogzoo> j0hannes: check the manufacturers specs - then match the card against the fglrx requirements, ubuto will tell you more
[04:43] <fyrestrtr> tonyyarusso: heh, so do I :)
[04:43] <Frogzoo> !tell j0hannes about fglrx
[04:44] <afief> !tell Afief about fglrx
[04:44] <fyrestrtr> j0hannes: look up the exact model number.
[04:44] <fyrestrtr> tonyyarusso: what kind is yours? the one with the fingerprint scanner?
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> fyrestrtr: Nope.  2668-49U if you want to look it up.
[04:45] <oxigen> i have another swap partition on second hd, how can i add this space to first one?
[04:45] <fyrestrtr> tonyyarusso: I have 2668-Tsomething ... need to turn it over.
[04:45] <PreZWork> hrm - I thought 6.06 was already released.
[04:45] <DaneeBoy> Hi all :)
[04:45] <j0hannes> fyrestrtr, Frogzoo: x has detected a Radeon Mobility 9000
[04:45] <fyrestrtr> tonyyarusso: tonyyarusso anyway, the reason I asked you is because there is a driver (closed sourced) available for the fingerprint scanner that integrates with pam.
[04:45] <DaneeBoy> Is this the offical support channel?
[04:46] <fyrestrtr> DaneeBoy: yes
[04:46] <thoreauputic> DaneeBoy: yes
[04:46] <arrick> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[04:46] <arrick> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[04:46] <arrick> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[04:46] <arrick> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[04:46] <arrick> tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (ro)
[04:46] <DaneeBoy> Thanks. Can anyone point to a guide to update to Dapper?
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> fyrestrtr: Ah.  Can't help you there myself unfortunately, but the ThinkWiki seems to know all.
[04:46] <arrick> sorry, I wanted that to all go to gnomefreak
[04:46] <arrick> sorry guys
[04:46] <thoreauputic> arrick: you know better than to paste by now
[04:46] <fyrestrtr> tonyyarusso: yeah that's where I got that info. Nice resource.
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> arrick: I've done the same.  /msg only does the first line.
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> fyrestrtr: Definitely.
[04:47] <thoreauputic> arrick: use /query <nick>
[04:47] <thoreauputic> arrick: then output the stuff
[04:47] <fyrestrtr> arrick: use #paste
[04:47] <PreZWork> hum - there is no APT package for vmware workstation?
[04:47] <thoreauputic> or #flood
[04:47] <gnomefreak> i got some of it ;)
[04:47] <gnomefreak> lol
[04:47] <fyrestrtr> ah yeah #flood that's what I was thinking.
[04:47] <fyrestrtr> or pastebin.com
[04:47] <thoreauputic> PreZWork: vmware is not open source
[04:48] <arrick> ok thanks
[04:48] <fyrestrtr> PreZWork: you can download the linux version from vmware.com -- I had it running once (not on ubuntu)
[04:48] <fyrestrtr> a *trial* version
[04:48] <gnomefreak> arrick: im not real sure
[04:48] <PreZWork> thoreauputic: *sigh* so ubunto DOES follow debian in that 'if its not open source, it doesnt get packaged'?
[04:49] <fyrestrtr> PreZWork: open source != free
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> PreZWork: Um, if you can't have the source, how would you package it?
[04:49] <PreZWork> fyrestrtr: I realise that, I have a license for vmware workstation
[04:49] <thoreauputic> PreZWork: basically yes
[04:49] <j0hannes> Frogzoo, fyrestrtr: the howto says i don't need fglrx
[04:49] <arrick> gnomefreak, tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755) shows up on all my systems
[04:49] <PreZWork> tonyyarusso: so you don't have to download it and install it, you could just apt-get it and have it automatically update, like anything else when a new version comes out
[04:49] <deathscytheh64> how do you get a pcmcia card working in breezy when lights aren't coming on the card?
[04:49] <PreZWork> saving me from having to keep checking the main website to see if there is a new version and then install it myself manually
[04:50] <thoreauputic> PreZWork: there are legal issues you seem to be ignoring
[04:50] <waylandbill> I got an unmet dependency for g++-4.0. I'm not sure how I fix this.
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> PreZWork: That's not possible for a proprietary product.
[04:50] <gnomefreak> arrick: i cant answer that because i have never had to mount anything manully
[04:50] <PreZWork> thoreauputic: nope - you can download and install it all you want without legal issues - its just you're restricted to trial mode without a license.
[04:50] <gnomefreak> waylandbill: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:50] <fyrestrtr> deathscytheh64: check the output of dmesg when you insert it, see what it is recognized as. What kind of card is it?
[04:50] <thoreauputic> PreZWork: erm - you can't redistribute
[04:50] <arrick> oh ok
[04:51] <tonyyarusso> PreZWork: Bingo.  There's a legal difference between available and redistributable.
[04:51] <PreZWork> tonyyarusso: so you're saying if I have an nvidia or ATI card (or in my case, Matrox) I have to download and install the drivers (proprietary only) myself?
[04:51] <fyrestrtr> PreZWork: you downloading != ubuntu distribution. Its the same with Java (the official Sun Java)
[04:51] <deathscytheh64> fyrestrtr: i woudn't've thought to do that, i'm really new to linux so i've been trying to follow along on the forums as best as i could
[04:51] <Tomcat_> And for Java it's the worst thing ever. :)
[04:51] <fyrestrtr> deathscytheh64: no problem, what kind of card is it?
[04:51] <tonyyarusso> PreZWork: If you want the latest ones.  The ati driver does get packaged by Seveas, but will be a couple sub-versions behind the latest official.
[04:51] <Tomcat_> They want Java on every machine? They should make the license better. :o
[04:51] <PreZWork> I guess Gentoo gets around it by making the ebuild download direct from the manufacturer's website then ... hrm.
[04:52] <fyrestrtr> PreZWork: aye :)
[04:52] <PreZWork> how frustrating.
[04:52] <Tomcat_> PreZWork: Possible for Ubuntu as well... if somebody wants to do the work.
[04:52] <deathscytheh64> fyrestrtr: belkin f5d7011 pcmcia card that uses the broadcom chipset from what i read
[04:52] <fyrestrtr> PreZWork: no, it doesn't do that, it puts a fetch restriction -- which means YOU have to go and download it.
[04:52] <b0se> hey guys... just wondering, if i'm compiling a vanilla kernel with a few special patches, do i want to use make-kpkg with kernel_headers or modules_image or both?
[04:52] <PreZWork> that was one of the things I liked about portage, I didn't need to check to see if vmware was updated, it did it for me.
[04:52] <fyrestrtr> PreZWork: once you get it, then portage will install it for you. The F flag from emerge will tell you that.
[04:53] <PreZWork> fyrestrtr: not for vmware it didn't - its a simple FTP - for Java it did though (because you have to click-through Sun's license)
[04:53] <fyrestrtr> deathscytheh64: oh its a wireless card, hrmm ... have you tried on the livecd? did it work then?
[04:53] <PreZWork> hum
[04:54] <pip> hello!I need help
[04:54] <pip> Hello
[04:54] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, one sub version to be exact
[04:54] <deathscytheh64> fyrestrtr: I bought the card after installing ubuntu on the system
[04:54] <fyrestrtr> deathscytheh64: hrmm, okay.
[04:54] <pip> Does rose.exe virus hurt my ubuntu?
[04:54] <deathscytheh64> fyrestrtr: heh i thought it would work right out of the box
[04:54] <fyrestrtr> deathscytheh64: if you give me about ... 4 hours, I will have a better answer for you (that's how long it will take to rebuild my laptop) :P
[04:55] <b0se> pip, almost deffinately not
[04:55] <fyrestrtr> deathscytheh64: well first thing we have to make sure is that its being detected.
[04:55] <b0se> pip: rose.exe sounds like it's a windows virus... as long as it's in the PE (portable executable) format, it can not harm you ubuntu box
[04:56] <fyrestrtr> deathscytheh64: okay do this
[04:56] <PreZWork> So the latest version of ubuntu is 5.10? I thought I saw something about 6.06 being released.
[04:56] <gnomefreak> PreZWork: in june
[04:56] <Plitskin> which file can I download so I won't have to export all the time?
[04:56] <fyrestrtr> deathscytheh64: take the card out, plug it in. Then, open a terminal window and type tail /var/log/messages -- and then go to pastebin.com and paste the results there.
[04:56] <Plitskin> sorry
[04:57] <Plitskin> which file can I edit so I don't have to do export all the time?
[04:57] <PreZWork> heh, of course - version is (year-2000).(month) ...
[04:57] <fyrestrtr> PreZWork: --> #ubuntu+1
[04:57] <PreZWork> clever .. ;)
[04:57] <deathscytheh64> fyrestrtr: alright, working
[04:57] <PreZWork> #ubuntu+1?
[04:57] <fyrestrtr> yeah
[04:57] <gnomefreak> fyrestrtr: hes not on dapper im assuming by his question hes on breezy
[04:58] <fyrestrtr> !tell PreZWork about Dapper
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: Ah, thanks for the correction.
[04:58] <btaylor5619> Can someone help me with an issue I am having?
[04:58] <fyrestrtr> deathscytheh64: working?
[04:58] <fyrestrtr> deathscytheh64: GREAT!
[04:58] <gnomefreak> btaylor5619: only if you tell us what the issue is?
[04:59] <deathscytheh64> fyrestrtr: heh thats a nifty website, but yea not sure what all that means
[04:59] <btaylor5619> I want to set my monitor resolution to 1024x768, but I am only allowed between choices of 640x480 or 800x600.  What's up with that?
[04:59] <PreZWork> gnomefreak: actually, I'm on Gentoo, and considering Ubuntu
[04:59] <gnomefreak> PreZWork: oh
[04:59] <arrick> Anyone: please check out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12548 and let me know what you think, I'll be back in about 10 minutes for answers.
[04:59] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell btaylor5619 -about fixres
[05:00] <pip> b0se,thank you
[05:02] <PreZWork> how does ubuntu handle updated config files with an update?
[05:02] <jcoiron> Hi
[05:02] <Chris_Tucker> er
[05:03] <brasko> anyone know how to disable md5 passwords on ubuntu?
[05:03] <Chris_Tucker> can anyone see this? my router plug just came out
[05:03] <_jason> Chris_Tucker: yes
[05:03] <PreZWork> ie. if I have modified a config file and update a package, and that package has new config options or something, how does ubuntu handle it?
[05:03] <afief> brasko: why would you want to do that?
[05:03] <Sp4rKy> i'm sorry to disturb you again , but i still no have a working swsusp2 with fb
[05:03] <Chris_Tucker> w00t! fast hands! managed to plug the router back in before it lost its wireless clients
[05:03] <PreZWork> or even if I have not modified a config file and the format or contents of the config file are updated?
[05:03] <Chris_Tucker> thanks _jason
[05:04] <brasko> well, I installed the NIS server
[05:04] <brasko> and I need the solaris NIS clients to work with it
[05:04] <Sp4rKy> so , does anyone use swsusp2 with graphical mode (fb) ?
[05:04] <brasko> and from what I can tell, md5 is my problem.
[05:04] <brasko> although not sure.
[05:04] <gnomefreak> later all time for lunch than class tonight
[05:04] <brasko> I can run 'ypcat hosts' and stuff just fine.
[05:04] <brasko> but I can't log into the solaris machines.
[05:04] <brasko> so, I want to try disabling the md5 passwords
[05:05] <brasko> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.unix.solaris/browse_thread/thread/ee651f24b5ae0ad9/f15b30cf40cd11b7?lnk=st&q=nis+login+solaris+client+linux+server&rnum=1&hl=en#f15b30cf40cd11b7
[05:05] <brasko> That's what this person had to do.
[05:05] <brasko> So, anyone know how to disable md5 passwords on ubuntu?
[05:06] <PreZWork> anyone? :)
[05:06] <B_166-ER-X> yesterday i passed like 5 hours here trying to figure out my dvd burner problem,  and i scraped 14 dvd's in total.. someone said i should just 'simulate' instead of real burning, but k3b is saying it does not supporte simulation with DVD-R ... ??
[05:06] <j2daosh> damn there are alot of people in this one
[05:07] <iegary> brasko: dpkg-reconfigure passwd
[05:07] <mac_bobby> hello...is this an only english speaking channel or may I also speak german with you?
[05:07] <apokryphos> !de
[05:07] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[05:07] <mac_bobby> ok, danke
[05:08] <brasko> iegary: thanks.
[05:08] <deathscytheh64> fyrestrtr: able to make sense from the mess i pasted?
[05:09] <brasko> iegary: hmmm, it didn't ask me about md5
[05:09] <brasko> iegary: Do I have to update the verbosity somehow?
[05:09] <brasko> iegary: it only asked me about the shadow passworsd
[05:10] <B_166-ER-X> DVD drive wont burn DVD's. It was working before, it is no more, i buyed a new drive...same problem. Its having some problem with Filenames... if i remove the files with problems, of 'force input charset' it can burn...but i cannot acess the DVD data afterward. I AM completely out of ideas....please
[05:10] <beerockxs> I just got new eclipse packages via synaptic on dapper, and now eclipse does not start anymore
[05:10] <Sp4rKy> nobody
[05:10] <beerockxs> when i remove the commandline options i give it via ~/eclipse/eclipserc, it works again
[05:11] <isa> ola
[05:11] <isa> alguien de espaa?
[05:11] <Seveas> !es
[05:11] <beerockxs> anyone have an idea?
[05:11] <jadaz87> !es
[05:11] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:11] <Sp4rKy> nobody here uses swsusp2 please :/
[05:12] <isa> #ubuntu-es
[05:12] <j0hannes> Frogzoo,
[05:12] <B_166-ER-X> Seveas, if you have any idea, i'm completely clueless now.
[05:12] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: the specifications only contain ATI Mobility Radeon M6-M
[05:13] <Xardas> does here anyone use lilypond?
[05:13] <arrick> ok guys Im back for answers
[05:14] <j0hannes> fyrestrtr: did you mean the model-number of the laptop or the videocard?
[05:14] <ompaul> opme
[05:17] <arrick> Anyone: please check out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12548 and let me know what you think, I'll be back in about 10 minutes for answers.
[05:17] <arrick> but im back now
[05:17] <JoNTYDoG> lo all can anyone help me with a usb wireless adapter?
[05:18] <stephen_banks> what model is it?
[05:18] <iegary> brasko: oops :) Okay, try removing 'md5' from the end of one of the lines in /etc/pam.d/common-password
[05:18] <froh> what is the best method of installing dapper without burning a cdrom?
[05:18] <arrick> !wireless
[05:18] <ubotu> [wireless]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[05:18] <ubuntu_> hola
[05:18] <iegary> brasko: but make sure to reset your password before logging out, so you set a new DES password
[05:18] <ubuntu_> ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAOL?
[05:18] <Seveas> !es
[05:18] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:18] <Swoop|Around> .
[05:19] <jadaz87> froh what do you mean upgrading?
[05:19] <JoNTYDoG> Netgear WG111v2
[05:19] <froh> no, fresh install, i run a messed up warty (or was i t breezy?)
[05:20] <jadaz87> froh you can also order pressed cds
[05:20] <JoNTYDoG> I am trying to run the ubuntu live cd and its not finding the adapter so I can't connect to the net with it
[05:21] <froh> jadaz87: sure, or run to the store and get some, but i want to do it _now
[05:21] <iegary> brasko: i.e. if you log out when your password entry still starts with $1$, you won't be able to log back in.
[05:21] <gpled> has anyone tried snort on ubuntu?
[05:21] <jadaz87> froh i mean order Ubuntu Cds
[05:21] <stephen_banks> JoNTYDoG: try ndiswrapper with the config files from here: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#N
[05:21] <jadaz87> JoNTYDoG you are going to have to use ndiswrapper
[05:22] <JoNTYDoG> oh dear I am a complete noob with linux and just wanted to give it a go
[05:22] <btaylor5619> Is there any way to clear the high scores of the games I play?
[05:23] <_jason> btaylor5619: fine the file that stores them and delete them?
[05:23] <NoUse> btaylor5619 it probably stores them in a hidden folder in your home directory
[05:23] <MrPockets> can someone please help me with upgrading firefox
[05:23] <jadaz87> !ff1.5
[05:23] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:23] <MrPockets> sudo apt-get upgrade firefox does not work
[05:23] <btaylor5619> ok... so... is there any way to get at those hidden files and folders?
[05:23] <arrick> jadaz87, you beat me to it :^(::
[05:23] <stephen_banks> the hidden files will be in .gnome2/gnometris for example
[05:23] <apokryphos> Seveas: could you unsubscribe me from the easybuntu mailing list?
[05:23] <_jason> btaylor5619: ls -a will list hidden files, or ctrl-h in nautilus
[05:23] <jadaz87> btaylor5619 go to Nautilus and Ctrl +H
[05:23] <stephen_banks> in nautilus, ctrl+h
[05:24] <jadaz87> arrick :-)
[05:24] <arrick> Who here is good with mount points and fstab?
[05:24] <pablo_> hi
[05:24] <btaylor5619> ok, so in what folder are the high score files located?
[05:24] <pablo_> ive just added a new nic
[05:24] <stephen_banks> for which game?
[05:24] <pablo_> but.. now.. how do i configure it?
[05:24] <jadaz87> btaylor5619 it whould be .whateverthenameofthegame
[05:25] <btaylor5619> oh, say, "tali"
[05:25] <Frogzoo> pablo_: copy the existing entry for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:26] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: still there?
[05:26] <Frogzoo> j0hannes: no, just back, wassup?
[05:26] <pablo_> Frogzoo: why didnt the hotplug system did this for me?
[05:26] <pablo_> didnt this for me?
[05:26] <Frogzoo> pablo_: is this usb/pcmcia?
[05:27] <pablo_> no its a pci ntwork interface card
[05:27] <pablo_> is that the reason?
[05:27] <stephen_banks> btaylor: cant seem to find the tali scores directory, its not under /home/user/.tali or /home/user/gnome2/tali
[05:27] <Frogzoo> pablo_: well there's your answer
[05:27] <pablo_> ok
[05:27] <dereks> 7 -!- Irssi: Changed to GIMPNet server irc.gnome.org
[05:27] <pablo_> so i copy what appears in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:27] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: the official site contains no more information about the video card
[05:27] <pablo_> add a section called.. eth1 adn its rwady?
[05:28] <pablo_> ready?
[05:28] <Frogzoo> pablo_: just change eth0 for eth1 & the ips - you'll figure it out - man interfaces also
[05:28] <pablo_> Frogzoo: many thanks!
[05:28] <pablo_> ill try it
[05:28] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: but due to its number (6000) the fg...driver wouldnt fit
[05:29] <felipe__> Hello, my gdesklest keep crashing, has anybody else has the same problem?
[05:29] <svenske> tach zusammen
[05:29] <Frogzoo> j0hannes: ok, then I guess it's the ati driver, which doubtless you're already running?
[05:29] <arrick> _jason, you know how to run a repair for ubuntu system?
[05:29] <beerockxs> is there an easy way to view a packages changelog?
[05:29] <_jason> arrick: repair what?
[05:29] <Frogzoo> beerockxs: probly /usr/share/docs/pkg
[05:30] <thoreauputic> felipe__: long time since I tried gdesklets, but at the time they wanted to eat my CPU - maybe they are still unstable
[05:30] <gasher> hello guys
[05:30] <we2by> can I install ubuntu 32bit on amd 64?
[05:30] <thoreauputic> we2by: yes
[05:30] <arrick> _jason, Lib modules got borked while womeone was instlling programs manually
[05:30] <Frogzoo> we2by: you're best to install the 686 kernel actually
[05:30] <Jinkguns> I have a wireless laptop that is currently unplug from a ethernet network, it was also configured for wireless, it has hanged at "waiting for network interfaces to go up..." during start up
[05:30] <baconbacon> short answer yes, long answer why
[05:30] <Jinkguns> what should I do?
[05:30] <beerockxs> Frogzoo, some GUI for that available, like the one in update-notifier?
[05:31] <arrick> _jason, while under root
[05:31] <_jason> arrick: you could try reinstalling the packages that provide those libs
[05:31] <we2by> I hard alot ppl say there is no big difference between 32bit or ubuntu amd 64 regarding to performance
[05:31] <Frogzoo> beerockxs: no, there'll be a directory with the package docs, & if you're lucky, the README will have a change log
[05:31] <we2by> heard*
[05:31] <arrick> _jason, ok thank
[05:31] <felipe__> thoreauputic, The don't use much of my cpu, and I kind of got used to them and I feel naked without gdesklets :(
[05:32] <mjr> we2by, the difference shouldn't be very noticable, unless you do a lot of computation-intensive stuff (like encoding video or something)
[05:32] <Frogzoo> we2by: but a big difference in support/stability - go 32
[05:32] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: i can't remove it, so i think it isn't installed
[05:32] <thoreauputic> felipe__: ah OK - well I guess they have improved :)
[05:32] <arrick> _jason, he got this error "/lib/mod... when booting it said unable to open for write data system read only"
[05:32] <gasher> my ath0 is download
[05:32] <Frogzoo> !tell j0hannes about ati
[05:32] <we2by> ok
[05:32] <Frogzoo> j0hannes: pm from ubotu should work
[05:32] <baconbacon> we2by: I think some binary/prop packages wouldnt work
[05:33] <gasher> i have tried dmesg but my atho is not recognised
[05:33] <we2by> ok, then I will put ubuntu 32bit on my amd 64
[05:33] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: ok, thanks. i will try it
[05:34] <pablo_> i want to install opera browser, is there any way to install from repositories? or i need to download it from opera web site?
[05:34] <tarvid> what do i need to add to ubuntu server do run remote X?
[05:34] <felipe__> thoreauputic, yup
[05:34] <we2by> can u install the latest gnome version on ubuntu 5.10??
[05:34] <green_earz> gasher: can you see the ether card info with the command lspci -v
[05:34] <Frogzoo> we2by: not recommended, no
[05:34] <gasher> i did tht but device error
[05:34] <thoreauputic> we2by: probably, with difficulty - but why not use dapper ?
[05:34] <tarvid> i installed xserver-xorg
[05:35] <MrPockets> how do i change the directory?
[05:35] <we2by> isn't dapper still a test release?
[05:35] <Frogzoo> gasher: 'sudo apt-get linux-image-686'    should install the latest 32 686 kernel r u
[05:35] <thoreauputic> we2by: until June 1, yes
[05:35] <tarvid> and am getting the error Error: Unable to initialize gtk, is DISPLAY set properly?
[05:35] <MrPockets> i downloaded the firefox package, and dont know how to change the Directory to where it is
[05:35] <we2by> Dapper is unstable. rgiht?
[05:35] <_jason> MrPockets: cd /path/to/directory
[05:35] <thoreauputic> we2by: for some value of "unstable"
[05:35] <Frogzoo> MrPockets: cd ? will change your pwd
[05:35] <thoreauputic> we2by: a lot of people are running it now
[05:35] <Frogzoo> we2by: correct
[05:36] <we2by> I already burnt the 5.10 cd
[05:36] <MrPockets> _jason, thats what i did but it said Bash:no such file or directory
[05:36] <Frogzoo> thoreauputic: a lot of people are trialling a beta distro
[05:36] <_jason> MrPockets: where is the file?
[05:36] <MrPockets> desktop
[05:36] <we2by> what's new in dapper? any link?
[05:36] <MrPockets> i know the directorys right cause i dragged the folder into it
[05:36] <Frogzoo> !dapper
[05:36] <thoreauputic> Frogzoo: erm yes - your point?
[05:36] <_jason> MrPockets: cd ~/Desktop, with a capital D
[05:36] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[05:36] <arrick> Is there a way to perform a repair/reinstall of Ubuntu without reformatting?
[05:37] <Frogzoo> thoreauputic: if we recommend people try dapper, they'll be back here when it breaks
[05:37] <MrPockets> no such file or directory
[05:37] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: my Xorg.0.log says: (II) ATI: ATI driver (version 6.5.7) for chipsets: ati, ativga
[05:37] <thoreauputic> arrick: you can try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a followed by sudo apt-get -f install
[05:37] <thoreauputic> arrick: might not help though in your situation
[05:37] <FirstLite> arrick: If the system is unbootable you can try booting off a livecd, mounting the corrupted filesystem on /mnt, and forcing a reinstall of the kernel-image package (or whatever) with dpkg --root=/mnt
[05:37] <MrPockets> AHHAH
[05:37] <MrPockets> got it
[05:38] <arrick> thanks thoreauputic
[05:38] <thoreauputic> Frogzoo: I didn't recommend it - he wanted the latest gnome
[05:38] <gasher> still give me problem
[05:38] <zipper> !nvtv
[05:38] <ubotu> zipper: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:38] <thoreauputic> Frogzoo: and please - I am aware of the issues - I've been a regular in this chan since 2004
[05:38] <we2by> any one using dapper test 6?
[05:39] <baconbacon> we2by: #ubuntu+1
[05:39] <gasher> it oke for the day guys i am off
[05:39] <we2by> I'm gonna install ubuntu 5.10 now :)
[05:39] <ejofee> the small pc (computer case) speaker is /dev/?
[05:40] <thoreauputic> Frogzoo: other point - if people ask dapper questions here, refer them to #ubuntu+1
[05:40] <Frogzoo> we2by: for dapper discussion -> #ubuntu+1
[05:40] <Frogzoo> thoreauputic: natch
[05:41] <ompaul> Frogzoo, and edgy eft :-
[05:41] <randy> Hey all.
[05:41] <arrick> hey thoreauputic /var/run/sudo/agliv5/tty1: read-only file system, help pwease
[05:41] <ompaul> edgy eft :-)   -> ubuntu+1 cos I sure as whats it am not setting up ubuntu+ two
[05:42] <thoreauputic> arrick: did you try the live CD suggestion I made?
[05:42] <fyrestrtr> hey, is there any application for linux that allows voice chatting over msn/
[05:42] <Frogzoo> ompaul: is that official then? edgy?
[05:42] <ompaul> yeap
[05:42] <renop> !resolution
[05:42] <ubotu> it has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:42] <thoreauputic> Frogzoo: yes
[05:42] <ompaul> about 4 hours ago
[05:42] <patrick52222> wat do i use to extract my .rar files
[05:42] <Frogzoo> the big news breaks here first lol
[05:42] <fyrestrtr> patrick52222: unrar
[05:42] <thoreauputic> patrick52222: unrar or unrar-nonfree
[05:42] <randy> I just installed dapper from yesterdays daily build and I can no longer printer to my printer on a windows box. The printer just goes to pause after I send a file???  Anyone else?
[05:42] <kickfacce> does anyone know why when i play games sometimes my monitor just goes black like 10 - 15 mins in the game and goes into power save?
[05:42] <arrick> I though that FirstLite made that thoreauputic
[05:42] <arrick> nope
[05:43] <nalioth> randy: join #ubuntu+1 for dapper discussion
[05:43] <Frogzoo> anyone notice that the wiki is out to lunch?
[05:44] <FirstLite> arrick: I think there's actually a 'rescue' mode in the regular (non-Live) install CD too.  Boot from CD and type 'rescue' at the boot: prompt.
[05:44] <thoreauputic> Frogzoo: interesting - at least it would be temporary: the forums seem to be permanently out to lunch
[05:44] <arrick> try that
[05:44] <arrick> aorry, wrong channel
[05:45] <Frogzoo> j0hannes: If the wiki was up I could tell you if that was the latest, but it is most likely, or apt would have updated it
[05:46] <ompaul> thoreauputic, have a nice cup of tea, lets never forget post number, $whatsit?
[05:46] <kickfacce> anyone have any ideas at all why my monitor would go into power save 10-15 mins into gameplay?
[05:46] <thoreauputic> ompaul: ?
[05:46] <ompaul> thoreauputic, pm
[05:46] <thoreauputic> k
[05:47] <sergio__> hola
[05:47] <flub_> any reason why i can't seem to download from any mirror?
[05:48] <Frogzoo> flub_: it happens
[05:48] <beerockxs> servers are down for a few minutes
[05:48] <flub_> no seriously, is there a know problem or so?  eta of solution? anything?
[05:48] <renop> anyone else having problems connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[05:49] <flub_> renop: yep
[05:49] <ompaul> flub_, no there is not, I am currently downloading a full CD from one location
[05:49] <Frogzoo> j0hannes: you might be able to get a more recent ATI driver by going to ATI's site, but I'd advise against it unless you're fairly experienced
[05:49] <Xana> !nvidia
[05:49] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:50] <pablo_> hi i need to add a nic
[05:50] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: i'm trying to install the driver, but security.ubuntu.com seems to be down
[05:50] <pablo_> ive installed it
[05:50] <flub_> ompaul: which mirror?  i could try that one too
[05:50] <thoreauputic> gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:50] <thoreauputic>  is not pingable - don't know more than that
[05:50] <pablo_> but doesnt work :(
[05:50] <Frogzoo> pablo_: how'd you make out with interfaces?
[05:50] <ompaul> ie.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:50] <ompaul> flub_, ^^
[05:51] <ompaul> pablo_, system administration networking if it is a normal nic
[05:51] <arrick> flub_, ie sources never go down, even when everything else is
[05:51] <Xana> !nvidia
[05:51] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:51] <thoreauputic> arrick: au seems very reliable too (I'm in .au)
[05:52] <Xana> wiki site down?
[05:52] <Frogzoo> Xana: seems so
[05:52] <thoreauputic> us is the one that seems to have constant problems
[05:52] <arrick> thoreauputic, yeah thts a good one too
[05:52] <thoreauputic> Xana: I believe the wiki and the forums are down
[05:52] <Xana> thanks
[05:52] <arrick> yep, thats couse the us ones seem to like networking with XP
[05:53] <Frogzoo> pablo_: did you edit the interfaces file?
[05:53] <arrick> hey thoreauputic what is debconf?
[05:53] <flub_> hmm, ie seems to stall too
[05:53] <enkrav> Hello, I have a pdf document (of A4 pages) and want to print it with 2 pages shrunk by 50% on one A4, how can I do it?
[05:53] <arrick> flub_, is you dns working properly?
[05:53] <MrPockets> fuck, what was the website ya'll gave me a few min ago to upgrade Firefox?
[05:54] <thoreauputic> arrick: the dpkg configuration tools that ask impossible questions ;)
[05:54] <Frogzoo> !ff1.5
[05:54] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:54] <MrPockets> tnks
[05:54] <thoreauputic> MrPockets: language
[05:54] <arrick> oh ok
[05:54] <pablo_> ompaul: the nic doesnt appear in that gui
[05:54] <MrPockets> sry
[05:54] <flub_> is there a massive update and are the servers overloaded like the last X update in debian?
[05:54] <pablo_> Frogzoo: yes i did
[05:54] <arrick> thoreauputic, thats the only thing that didnt go through on the first command
[05:54] <flub_> arrick: afaik yes, everything else works
[05:54] <thoreauputic> arrick: ah
[05:54] <renop> security.ubuntu.com is down as well
[05:54] <Frogzoo> pablo_: now 'sudo ifup eth1'
[05:54] <ompaul> Pablo,
[05:54] <Kyynara_> is ubuntu.com down?
[05:54] <thoreauputic> arrick: have you tried  sudo apt-get -f install ?
[05:55] <Kyynara_> or is it just me :)
[05:55] <ompaul> Kyynara_, its not just you
[05:55] <CoOlGhOsT> anyone walked down the path: mandriva/mandrake -> ubuntu ???
[05:55] <Kyynara_> ok
[05:55] <thoreauputic> CoOlGhOsT: via debian, long ago
[05:55] <arrick> thoreauputic, failed
[05:55] <Frogzoo> Kyynara_: wiki & forums so far - the us repos too maybe
[05:55] <thoreauputic> mandrake 9 > debian > ubuntu
[05:55] <pablo_> Frogzoo: it returns an error
[05:55] <ompaul> CoOlGhOsT, with some other versions in between as thoreauputic said via debian, except in my case it was via suse via debian
[05:56] <Frogzoo> pablo_: progress - what's the error?
[05:56] <pablo_> it says error while getting inteface flags
[05:56] <CoOlGhOsT> thoreauputic: ok... im contemplating doing it. been a faithful mdk/mdv user for 6 years now
[05:56] <thoreauputic> arrick: if debconf is stuffed, you have problems, Houston
[05:56] <Frogzoo> pablo_: I'm guessing a typo in your edis
[05:56] <Frogzoo> pablo_: I'm guessing a typo in your edits
[05:56] <arrick> thoreauputic, you were helping who I am helping now
[05:56] <thoreauputic> CoOlGhOsT: Ubuntu is way better IMO
[05:56] <renop> seeing as i'm stuck in a console and can't install links2 or elinks, ill ask here. anyone know to to change the boot up console resolution? in other distros you can append a video parameter to the kernel line in grub, can this be done with ubuntu also?
[05:56] <CoOlGhOsT> thoreauputic: care to elaborate?
[05:56] <arrick> and now when I ask the questions you are more able to understand them I thinkg
[05:56] <arrick> haha
[05:57] <thoreauputic> CoOlGhOsT: well it's been a while - but I prefer apt to urpmi
[05:57] <energeek> Hi there, I am having problems booting into ubuntu
[05:57] <energeek> I have suse 10 installed and ubuntu on /dev/hdd4
[05:57] <ompaul> CoOlGhOsT, so you want to compare a single apple, to a world class orchard :-)
[05:57] <thoreauputic> CoOlGhOsT: mandrake is a good distro though - I'm not criticising it
[05:57] <pablo_> Frogzoo: this is what i added to interfaces file
[05:58] <energeek> the bootloader is suse's grub so i added the following lines to suse's menu.lst
[05:58] <Frogzoo> renop: you need to pass the kernel a vga=### param, but the ### is quite specific, try 792 for 1024x768
[05:58] <CoOlGhOsT> thoreauputic: hehe.. i heard that before...
[05:58] <pablo_> below eth0 section
[05:58] <Frogzoo> pablo_: pastebin
[05:58] <pablo_> iface eth1 inet static
[05:58] <energeek> root (hd0,3)
[05:58] <energeek> kernel /vmlinuz
[05:58] <energeek> i mean
[05:58] <pablo_> address 192.168.0.1
[05:58] <grogoreo> hi
[05:58] <Frogzoo> pablo_: pastebin please
[05:58] <energeek> kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hdd4
[05:58] <grogoreo> how can I set a unset the enviroment variable SESSION_MANAGER?
[05:58] <thoreauputic> CoOlGhOsT: once you get the hang of apt, you don't want to go back
[05:58] <energeek> but it doesn't boot
[05:58] <CoOlGhOsT> ompaul: hehe... that would be the winders - linux comparison
[05:58] <renop> ok, thanks frogzoo
[05:58] <pablo_> sorry im new to this how do i paste bin?
[05:59] <Frogzoo> !pastebin
[05:59] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[05:59] <ompaul> CoOlGhOsT, so step up again, its a order of magnitude better
[05:59] <CoOlGhOsT> thoreauputic: a distro is so much more than just the packaging tools dont ya think?
[05:59] <Frogzoo> pablo_: post the interfaces file, then post the url back here
[05:59] <CoOlGhOsT> ompaul: what makes ubuntu better you think?
[05:59] <thoreauputic> CoOlGhOsT: sure - but dpkg/apt do much more than packaging
[05:59] <ompaul> CoOlGhOsT, its the ui the community packaging the feel good factor
[05:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> it makes you coffee and generates cows ;)
[06:00] <arrick> !enter
[06:00] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[06:00] <CoOlGhOsT> thoreauputic: true... but i was more thinking about userfriendly hardware assiatance tools for example
[06:00] <doktoreas> hi guys!
[06:00] <thoreauputic> CoOlGhOsT: in any case, Ubuntu is just a very nice system - I used debian for several years but I now prefer Ubuntu
[06:00] <virus_> who can help me to mount windows partitions...
[06:00] <CoOlGhOsT> ompaul: when did u use mandrake/mandriva last?
[06:00] <virus_> ?
[06:00] <virus_> I cannot see the files...
[06:01] <ompaul> 2002/3
[06:01] <thoreauputic> CoOlGhOsT: Ubuntu has excellent hardware detection in general
[06:01] <doktoreas> a develop question... how ubuntu recognize audio cards?
[06:01] <msoul> hello, I'm having a problem with Xorg
[06:01] <CoOlGhOsT> thoreauputic: yeah i checking out ubuntu in a virtual environment now.. and im impressed
[06:01] <msoul> just installed ubuntu on my toshiba laptop
[06:01] <thoreauputic> !mountwindows
[06:01] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:01] <ompaul> CoOlGhOsT, I was trying to use it in a customer support situation and it hurt me badly so I walked away from it
[06:01] <CoOlGhOsT> hence the reason for wanting to migrate
[06:01] <ubuntu_> !!!
[06:01] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ubuntu_
[06:01] <Frogzoo> msoul: just state your problem
[06:01] <pablo_> file:///etc/network/interfaces
[06:01] <msoul> I just did Frogzoo
[06:02] <virus_> I`ve done that thoreauputic...
[06:02] <CoOlGhOsT> ompaul: i see
[06:02] <Frogzoo> !ask
[06:02] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[06:02] <virus_> But I cannot see the files....
[06:02] <thoreauputic> virus_: have you looked in Computer, or /media ?
[06:03] <virus_> Thoreauputic : Yes
[06:03] <vahLIS> hello for all!
[06:03] <arrick> !tell virus_ about ntfs
[06:03] <pablo_> Frogzoo: sorry how do i post the interfaces file?
[06:03] <ompaul> CoOlGhOsT, we had a  need for software and it was rather hard to get the new versions source we ended up with some strange hacks going on, so to rescue the customer I had to install FreeBSD and that shattered my afair with Mandrake, so  then I moved to SuSE and soon after to Debian
[06:04] <Frogzoo> pablo_: see ubotus mention of pastebin further up the page? past the interfaces file at that site, then post the resulting url back here
[06:04] <virus_> arrick: I`ve Done Already...all the steps from tutorials...
[06:04] <virus_> all 3 Tutorials...
[06:04] <vahLIS> 
[06:05] <CoOlGhOsT> ompaul: a situation like that can make anyone slightly annoyed.
[06:05] <arrick> ok, now you need to change the permissions for your fstab then, and then your done
[06:05] <C-O-L-T> When can I donwload the Beta Ubuntu? at night can I find at mirrors?
[06:05] <virus_> I am on this part : If no files are found, please see XChatHowto and join #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net.
[06:05] <thoreauputic> vahLIS: english here, please
[06:05] <vahLIS> ok
[06:05] <arrick> haha
[06:05] <arrick> ok hang on
[06:05] <CoOlGhOsT> anyhoo... thanks for your input. gotta go make dinner. lata
[06:05] <Frogzoo> C-O-L-T: any time, except when the servers are down, which isn't so often
[06:06] <CoOlGhOsT> exit
[06:06] <CoOlGhOsT> bah
[06:06] <CoOlGhOsT> hehe
[06:06] <C-O-L-T> Frogzoo: but when will be posted teh ubuntu beta?
[06:06] <FlannelKing> C-O-L-T: 20th
[06:06] <scout> hey i have a vanilla install of ubuntu from cd...when i go to add package it asks for root password, i supply it, then it fails saying Failed to run /usr/bin/gnome-app-install as user root:
[06:06] <scout>  Wrong password.
[06:06] <pablo_> Frogzoo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12552
[06:06] <felipe__> Im havin trouble downloading from the repos, is it just me or theres a problem with the repos?
[06:06] <scout> its the righ password
[06:06] <Frogzoo> C-O-L-T: you can get flight 6 atm, I believe or 7 sometime real soon
[06:06] <thoreauputic> !tell scout about root
[06:07] <scout> hehe i understand root :P
[06:07] <flub_> felipe__: the repos
[06:07] <thoreauputic> scout: it wants your "sudo" pasword
[06:07] <beasty> ok wish me luck guys
[06:07] <beasty> i just wrote my 14th iso
[06:07] <scout> thanks thore
[06:07] <thoreauputic> scout: ie. your user password
[06:07] <fliegenderfrosch> #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:07] <felipe__> flub_, Ok, thanks
[06:07] <Frogzoo> scout: it's not asking for root passwd, it's asking for _your_ password, that's how sudo works
[06:07] <C-O-L-T> Frogzoo: I am talking here about flight 7, as far as I know Flight 7 will be avaible 20th of April, this means that after 12:00 I can get it on ubuntu servers right?
[06:07] <JustinLynn> Is the ubuntu website/archive down?
[06:08] <thoreauputic> scout: so read about root as I suggested - you are used to a different model
[06:08] <fliegenderfrosch> C-O-L-T, i think the next relesase will be the beta
[06:08] <FlannelKing> C-O-L-T: there will be an announcement, I don't think it's quite that regimented
[06:08] <Frogzoo> C-O-L-T: I don't know - but #ubuntu+1 probly will
[06:08] <flub_> JustinLynn: it seems so
[06:08] <C-O-L-T> Frogzoo: ok I will ask tehre
[06:09] <C-O-L-T> Frogzoo: tried to reach ubuntu webpage now to look for release schedule but the page is down
[06:09] <JustinLynn> flub_> pitty but thanks, I guess the problem isn't at my end then.
[06:09] <FlannelKing> C-O-L-T: the beta is on the 20th
[06:09] <Frogzoo> Pablo: just getting to it...
[06:10] <seraph> good evening
[06:10] <WK|Dutchy> <3 gaim, "Has you: No" is an easy way to see who you can remove from your list :)
[06:10] <seraph> when installing ubuntu do I need to create a swap partition?
[06:10] <JustinLynn> flub_> seems to be comming back online :)
[06:10] <waylandbill> seraph, no, but it's recommended.
[06:10] <seraph> waylandbill: no way to utilise a swap file instead/
[06:10] <flub_> JustinLynn: that'd be good news
[06:11] <Frogzoo> Pablo: that gateway is suspect - it's the same IP as the nic    - it's a problem, not necessarily the problem
[06:11] <C-O-L-T> FlannelKing: that means tomorrow right?
[06:11] <seraph> I feel reluctant to hand over a gig and a halfo f space (the recommended amount) permanently
[06:11] <arrick> ok, Ill be bakc in about 2 1/2 hours guys, have fun
[06:11] <virus_> arrick still there?
[06:11] <virus_> with the help?
[06:11] <virus_> :)
[06:11] <arrick> for a second virus_
[06:11] <seraph> waylandbill: are we still doing 1.5x the amount of ram?
[06:12] <arrick> I gotta get to class, let me look up the fstab format right quick
[06:12] <waylandbill> seraph, don't know of a swap 'file' ... normally it's a swap partition.
[06:12] <seraph> alright
[06:12] <seraph> so suggested size?
[06:12] <Frogzoo> Pablo: either change the gateway or delete that line, & try again 'sudo ifup eth1'
[06:12] <thoreauputic> seraph: if you have a gig of ram, 512MB is probably plenty
[06:12] <Orunitia> why isn't flashplugin-nonfree showing up when I try to install? I have multiverse enabled =\
[06:12] <seraph> (btw, I've been on Linux about three years, just checking the swap issue and whether it has changed any recently)
[06:13] <seraph> thoreauputic: I do some amount of development work
[06:13] <seraph> and some java stuff
[06:13] <scout> Next question: I click on Add Packages...it aks for sudo password, i supply it, then nothing happens....
[06:13] <Frogzoo> seraph: this a lappie? do you intend to hibernate?
[06:13] <seraph> nope
[06:13] <seraph> no intention of hibernating
[06:13] <thoreauputic> seraph: well, work out what your likely max is, and decide accordingly
[06:13] <seraph> ugh
[06:13] <seraph> yeah this is why I came here
[06:13] <thoreauputic> ie add you ram and your swap
[06:14] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: back again. can you tell me how to find out, which driver i'm using?
[06:14] <seraph> I had 512 and it wasn't enough the last time
[06:14] <thoreauputic> *your
[06:14] <seraph> think I'll up it to a gig
[06:14] <Frogzoo> seraph: what do you use the machine for, & how much installed ram?
[06:14] <seraph> that should be plenty
[06:14] <thoreauputic> seraph: sounds like a plan
[06:14] <seraph> Frogzoo: 512MB RAM
[06:14] <arrick> virus_, you need to change the uid:username guid:usename, and the rest someone in here can help you with, ask how to make yourself own the drive in fstab
[06:14] <Frogzoo> j0hannes: you had it b4, from the xorg.log
[06:14] <seraph> I use it as a desktop, a LAMP dev box, as well as planned Java work
[06:14] <arrick> I gotta fun, if you need help in about 2 1/2 hours I'll be back
[06:15] <Frogzoo> seraph: well try 512meg & see if that's enough for your use
[06:15] <seraph> bah
[06:15] <seraph> might as well make it a gig
[06:15] <scout> what log file can i look at for why the Add Applications is failing? (nothing pops up)
[06:15] <seraph> no point stinging and then regretting it later
[06:15] <virus_> arrick to change uid?
[06:15] <seraph> 512 MB won't be missed
[06:15] <seraph> laters
[06:15] <virus_> how?
[06:15] <Frogzoo> seraph: there you go, but you can always add a swap file later
[06:15] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: i really don't know if this is the driver from ubuntu or from ati
[06:16] <fyrestrtr> scout: try running the command from the prompt
[06:16] <arrick> virus_, you gotta make yourself owner of the drive, at this point, and put your username in the username sections
[06:16] <scout> fyrestrtr:  /usr/bin/gnome-app-install
[06:16] <scout> Traceback (most recent call last):
[06:16] <scout>   File "/usr/bin/gnome-app-install", line 22, in ?
[06:16] <scout>     import gtk, gtk.glade
[06:16] <scout>   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py", line 37, in ?    from _gtk import *
[06:16] <scout> RuntimeError: could not open display
[06:16] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: on one of the sites you gave me there was a hint not to use any other than the official driver
[06:17] <fyrestrtr> scout: ah .. yes, that's a bit annoying now isn't it lol
[06:17] <scout> hehe yea
[06:17] <virus_> arrick : Now I am really Puzzled
[06:17] <fyrestrtr> what app is it?
[06:17] <scout> "Add Applications" in the menu
[06:17] <scout> default x86 install
[06:17] <Rawplayer> hi
[06:17] <fyrestrtr> no I meant, what application are you trying to 'add'
[06:17] <Rawplayer> anyone of you guys using a bluetooth headset for voip?
[06:18] <scout> fyrestrtr: well like to see the package manager has in it, but definately need to install openldap, apache, mod_php
[06:18] <pablo_> Frogzoo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12553
[06:18] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: is there a way to reset the whole system without reinstalling?
[06:18] <fyrestrtr> scout: you can install all that from synaptic
[06:19] <scout> fyrestrtr: so synaptic is ubuntu's package manager? SWEET
[06:19] <Frogzoo> j0hannes: dpkg -l xserver-xorg-driver-ati        & I'm guessin it's 6.8.2.77
[06:19] <scout> <-- not used to using GUI and gnome :P
[06:19] <fyrestrtr> scout: synaptic is just a front end for apt-get, which is what ubuntu uses since its based off of debian. apt-get is the debian package management system.
[06:19] <saik0> Is there a way to disable the gksu fade effect?
[06:19] <scout> fyrestrtr: thanks man, thats exactly what i needed to know ;)
[06:19] <fyrestrtr> scout: sudo apt-get install apache php openldap <-- this shouldn't blow up your computer ... much.
[06:20] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: it's 6.5.7.3
[06:20] <fyrestrtr> scout: if it starts humping your cat, hey -- just read the standard disclaimer in the Windows EULA :P
[06:20] <Surak> quick question: where do I get daily live builds via rsync?
[06:20] <fyrestrtr> Surak: sudo apt-get update
[06:21] <Frogzoo> j0hannes: well seems you're running the ATI driver - see if you have the original tar file lying about & run the uninstall, then 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-ati'
[06:21] <scout> fyrestrtr: lol is there a search command to search for packages like gentoo's emerge -s?
[06:21] <fyrestrtr> Surak: or, from synaptic, choose refresh.
[06:21] <fyrestrtr> scout: yes, sudo apt-cache search [....] 
[06:21] <thoreauputic> scout: apt-cache search
[06:21] <Frogzoo> pablo_: is this nic the same make/model as the one already installed?
[06:21] <fyrestrtr> scout: or, from synaptic ... err ... click on search :P
[06:21] <thoreauputic> the sudo isn't required
[06:21] <Surak> fyrestrtr: I mean daily live build images. Iso files.
[06:21] <fyrestrtr> scout: and welcome -- I am also a gentoo user :)
[06:21] <scout> fyrestrtr: roger that, thanks man ;)
[06:21] <fyrestrtr> scout: I actually run a gentoo server.
[06:22] <scout> fyrestrtr: yea i got gentoo installing on another computer now, and using this ubuntu for my ldap testing so i can get used to ubuntu...so tired of broken packages in gentoo :(
[06:22] <pablo_> Frogzoo: no it isnt
[06:22] <fyrestrtr> scout: I don't have that problem with gentoo -- I don't do ~x86 stuff though.
[06:22] <fyrestrtr> scout: my gentoo server has a rediculous uptime ... like ... 90 days (before a power failure)
[06:23] <fyrestrtr> and AMAZINGLY ENOUGH -- resierfs4 didn't crap out!
[06:23] <msoul> sorry, the problem is
[06:23] <Frogzoo> pablo_: try 'ifconfig eth1 up'
[06:23] <msoul> I don't know what is the problem
[06:23] <msoul> when I booted for the fisrt time
[06:23] <msoul> all I see is a blackscreen so I had to ctrl+alt F1 to use the console mopde
[06:23] <msoul> mode even
[06:23] <fyrestrtr> scout: pssst.. you should use esearch on gentoo ;)
[06:23] <scout> fyrestrtr: heh after 2.5 years maintaining my gentoo desktop i cant even do simple gaim install without having to go back and fix 10 different errors...and apache config locations and changes has killed my servers to many times...buti still love gentoo.
[06:24] <Frogzoo> msoul: your best bet to get X working after a clean install is to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' & answer the questions, or just accept the defaults
[06:24] <scout> hehe ok i'll lookinto it :P
[06:24] <msoul> and I honestly don't know what to do to solve this problem
[06:24] <fyrestrtr> scout: yeah, its a labor of love that Gentoo
[06:24] <pablo_> Frogzoo: error while getting interface flags
[06:24] <scout> LOL
[06:24] <scout> fyrestrtr: thanks again man :P
[06:24] <msoul> Frogzoo: I believe I accepted the defaults when I installed ubuntu, no?
[06:24] <pablo_> Frogzoo: did you read the pstebin of my interfaces card?
[06:25] <Frogzoo> pablo_: are you sure this nic has a working driver? (cos I'm guessing it's a driver problem) check /var/log/messages to see if the kernel picked it up
[06:25] <msoul> Frogzoo: I'll try that, bbs
[06:25] <Frogzoo> pablo_: yes, read it, now go look for errors in /var/log/messages about the card
[06:25] <thoreauputic> guys, gentoo discussion is kind of off-topic for #ubuntu :)
[06:25] <fyrestrtr> lol I knew that was coming :P
[06:26] <roooot> does dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg change something other than xorg.conf? because i had problems after i ran it so i remove xorg.conf and started it from scratch. But for some reason it's still trying to use the frame buffer interface even after i recreated xorg.conf without framebuffer support, this leads me to believe, that dpkg-reconfigure changed other parts of the system as well. any suggestions?
[06:26] <fyrestrtr> roooot: are you sure you changed the right xorg.conf? the log file should tell you which configuration file X is using.
[06:27] <fyrestrtr> roooot: afaik, its just a way to reconfigure the conf file, nothing more -- but I may be wrong here.
[06:27] <Frogzoo> roooot: yep, replacing the backup xorg.conf has always worked for me
[06:27] <roooot> fyrestrtr: oh, i never considered it would be using anything other than /etc/xorg.conf. Is it possible it's not using that file?
[06:28] <roooot> /etc/X11/xorg.conf*
[06:28] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: but how can the driver have become installed if i didn't do it? ubuntu wouldn't install an ati-driver, would it?
[06:28] <fyrestrtr> roooot: very possible, you can change the configuration file it uses by passing parameters to X. Best to check the log file, because in the first few lines it will tell you.
[06:28] <Frogzoo> roooot: the only other place to look might be /boot/grub/menu.lst    but that's not touched by dpkg-reconfigure xser....
[06:29] <roooot> ok, thanks for help guys, ill investigate further
[06:29] <scout> fyrestrtr: ugh...i run "synaptic" as root and get (synaptic:10585): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[06:29] <fyrestrtr> scout: lol -- System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[06:29] <fyrestrtr> scout: its an X app
[06:29] <scout> yea doesnt work there either :( like my menu system is borked
[06:30] <pablo_> Frogzoo: im reading.. but.. what sould i find there?
[06:30] <scout> fyrestrtr: nothing comes up just like the "add application"
[06:30] <fyrestrtr> scout: hrmm, signs of deeper issues. Did you do anything exotic during the install? Ubuntu worked as advertised for me.
[06:30] <pablo_> Frogzoo: i says nothing clear about the new pci nic
[06:30] <andre_> hello
[06:30] <fyrestrtr> scout: restart X ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:30] <Frogzoo> j0hannes: right - this is a stock build, and you've changed nothing? also 'dpkg -l xserver-xorg-driver-ati'  says not installed?
[06:30] <scout> fyrestrtr: nope vanilla and this is the2nd one...i can do it again takes what 15 minutes?
[06:31] <scout> fyrestrtr: k brb
[06:31] <pablo_> Frogzoo: ideas for patterns to look for in /var/log/messeges?
[06:31] <fyrestrtr> scout: lol yeah -- nice change from [that other distro we don't mention in here] 
[06:31] <Frogzoo> pablo_: something similiar to what 'lspci' reads for your nic
[06:32] <thoreauputic> fyrestrtr: mention is fine - just not discuss at length :) I wouldn't discuss Ubuntu in #gento either :)
[06:32] <fyrestrtr> thoreauputic: but they rhyme!
[06:32] <thoreauputic> #gentoo *
[06:32] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: i haven't changed the drivers, just installed programs, dpkg says nothing installed after removing the driver with apt
[06:32] <pablo_> i did vi /var/log/messages
[06:32] <thoreauputic> fyrestrtr: this is true!
[06:32] <luis_> #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
[06:32] <pablo_> Frogzoo: then /eth1
[06:32] <scout> fyrestrtr: nope same thing :(
[06:32] <pablo_> and nothing appeard
[06:33] <Frogzoo> pablo_: what does lspci say the nic is? (hardware make/model)
[06:33] <fyrestrtr> hrmm -- try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[06:33] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: after apt-get install it's still the same version: 6.5.7.3
[06:33] <fyrestrtr> brb
[06:33] <cesar> buen dia
[06:33] <pablo_> Frogzoo: i did lspci and the nic doenst apper tehre :(
[06:33] <msoul> Frogzoo: I honestly didn't get it, it's really a hard peice of hardware
[06:34] <pablo_> Frogzoo: it shows me other devices but not the nic iv installed
[06:35] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: in the config-menu i had to chose between two drivers: ati and fbdev
[06:35] <pablo_> Frogzoo: heres the output of lspci http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12554
[06:35] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: i don't know if framebuffer with x is a good idea
[06:36] <pablo_> Frogzoo: as you see i have an intel mother, .. the nic ive installed is a cnet rtl8139 i think
[06:36] <slavik> Yo!!!!!
[06:37] <Frogzoo> j0hannes: did you restart X?
[06:39] <Frogzoo> pablo_: I suppose that "Ethernet controller: unknown device" isn't it?
[06:39] <j0hannes> Frogzoo: no, i'll be back
[06:39] <Frogzoo> j0hannes: just ati should be fine
[06:39] <erUSUL> pablo_: try dmesg | grep eth to see if your card has been recogniced
[06:40] <bless_> c'est francais ici ?
[06:40] <slavik> bless_: #ubuntu-fr
[06:40] <Frogzoo> erUSUL: pablo_ lspci see the card as an intel nic, but can't identify it better than that
[06:40] <bless_> thx
[06:40] <slavik> np
[06:41] <kickfacce> can someone tell me why my screen goes black after 10-15 mins while playing any 3d game? I'm under breezy
[06:41] <Frogzoo> pablo_: or is that the onboard nic we're seeing there?
[06:41] <FrdPrefct> Question about scanning... Is there an app, pref KDE, that will auto-crop and straighten something I scanned?
[06:41] <slavik> kickfacce: are you using a keyboard to play?
[06:41] <kickfacce> slavik, no
[06:41] <kickfacce> slavik, i mean yeah keyboard and mouse
[06:41] <Frogzoo> FrdPrefct: best bet would be gimp - but as to auto straightening - that's a big ask
[06:41] <slavik> kickfacce: oh ... hmm, check the screensaver settings
[06:41] <msoul> could anyone help me with the Xorg thingie
[06:42] <kickfacce> slavik i have it disabled
[06:42] <sfgea> JFNBJVN
[06:42] <pablo_> Frogzoo: i supose is the onboard nic
[06:42] <kickfacce> slavik my monitor goes into "power save"
[06:42] <Frogzoo> msoul: no luck with dpkg-reconfigure ...etc
[06:42] <slavik> hmm
[06:42] <slavik> kickfacce: is this a desktop or a laptop?
[06:42] <FrdPrefct> Frogzoo: autostraighten isn't a big deal... bu ti mean, in windows, when i use the HP crap... it'll crop off the empty space
[06:42] <pablo_> Frogzoo: this motejhr has an onboard intel nic
[06:42] <msoul> Frogzoo: yeah no luck
[06:42] <kickfacce> slavik, desktop
[06:42] <slavik> does the video card get hot?
[06:42] <kickfacce> slavik, no its fine
[06:43] <slavik> make sure that the fan is spinning if there is one
[06:43] <kickfacce> yeah it is
[06:43] <slavik> other than that, that's a weird issue you got.
[06:43] <kickfacce> i have seen many other people having the same issues
[06:43] <msoul> Frogzoo: what should I do? :-)
[06:43] <pablo_> Frogzoo: i did dmesg|grep eth
[06:43] <Frogzoo> msoul: define no luck - here this might help
[06:43] <pablo_> Frogzoo: and only the onboard card appeard
[06:43] <Kr4zy4p3> Hey...does anyone know where the Free CD's get shipped from ???
[06:43] <Frogzoo> !fixres
[06:43] <ubotu> [fixres]  Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:43] <slavik> Kr4zy4p3: no clue ...
[06:44] <erUSUL> Kr4zy4p3: shipit.ubuntu.com iirc
[06:44] <slavik> Kr4zy4p3: why not dl the ISO and burn it?
[06:44] <msoul> Frogzoo: well, it just no matter what I do I can't see anything when I reboot, all I see is a blank screen so I have to ctrl-alt-F1
[06:44] <slavik> erUSUL: I think Kr4zy4p3 meant the physical place ...
[06:44] <Kr4zy4p3> yeah :p
[06:44] <Frogzoo> msoul: see ubotu's fixres url above - you might need to spec vertrefresh & horizsync for your monitor/resolution
[06:45] <Kr4zy4p3> How's the Hardware supportwith Ubuntu ?
[06:46] <slavik> Kr4zy4p3: very good, I did have a quirk with hotplug though
[06:46] <slavik> same with udev (on dapper livecd)
[06:46] <slavik> but easily fixed
[06:46] <msoul> Frogzoo: I could try that, the thing is that's the only laptop that I have at home
[06:46] <msoul> Frogzoo: could you tell me how can I set monitor resulotion?
[06:47] <slavik> msoul: System -> Preferences -> Resolution
[06:47] <Frogzoo> msoul: it's in that link ubotu posted
[06:47] <green_earz> Kr4zy4p3: run the ubuntu live cd on the machine and see what it picks up
[06:47] <Frogzoo> slavik: no, it need edits to xorg.conf
[06:47] <slavik> oh
[06:47] <Kr4zy4p3> kool :)
[06:48] <Frogzoo> Pablo: if /var/log/messages doesn't see your card, and lspci doesn't see your card, there's not much I can do
[06:48] <msoul> Frogzoo: you know that I'm on console mode only
[06:49] <msoul> it just makes it harder and harder with links
[06:49] <msoul> or lynx whatever it is since all I see if I CTRL-ALT F7 == Blank screen
[06:49] <msoul> I see nothing
[06:49] <msoul> so it's all about the console mode
[06:49] <mzuverink> What do I need to do to change my default video player from Xine to VLC?
[06:50] <MrPockets> what can i use to get images off a digital camara?
[06:51] <mobilenoodle> can someone help me with a dri/i915GM install on dapper?
[06:52] <Frogzoo> msoul: to the "Monitor" section add these on two new lines "    HorizSync 30-67"   "    VertRefresh   30-60"     just be sure your monitor can handle those (on a lappie, shouldn't be a problem)  'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' & ctrl alt f7   & cross fingers
[06:52] <green_earz> pablo_: this link may be of help ? http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/    see if you can see the card there ?
[06:52] <Frogzoo> shoot
[06:52] <bolsh> Hi
[06:53] <mobilenoodle> trying to install dri common/i915 on a dell inspiron b130
[06:53] <ConfidentiaL> What is a good mail-server for ubuntu?
[06:53] <bolsh> I just upgraded this laptop to Breezy yesterday, and I don't have any power management any more (if I understand correctly)
[06:53] <Frogzoo> MrPockets: use import from 'gthumb'
[06:53] <graft> when I boot up, the HAL daemon takes a long time to start up (~50sec)... how do i figure out why this is?
[06:53] <bolsh> Anyone having problems with suspend/resume on breezy?
[06:53] <graft> and what can i do about it?
[06:54] <green_earz> ConfidentiaL: i would say postfix
[06:54] <Frogzoo> bolsh: does /proc/acpi   exist?
[06:54] <procergs> ola
[06:54] <bolsh> Frogzoo: What creates it?
[06:54] <Frogzoo> bolsh: acpi
[06:55] <bolsh> checking
[06:56] <mobilenoodle> latest kernel modules - uname -r says 2.6.15-20-386 - but the dri installer doesn't seem to recognize /lib/modules/2.6.15-20-386
[06:56] <bolsh> No
[06:56] <bolsh> apm is there
[06:56] <bolsh> But no acpi
[06:56] <Frogzoo> mobilenoodle: for dapper support -> #ubuntu+1
[06:56] <mobilenoodle> Frogzoo: thanks
[06:57] <bolsh> Frogzoo: Ah - did I say breezy? I meant dapper
[06:57] <green_earz> ConfidentiaL: here a debain link for a postfix howto http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/  it may be of use to you ?
[06:57] <Frogzoo> bolsh: same deal -> #ubuntu+1
[06:58] <bolsh> Frogzoo: Figured that out, thanks :)
[06:58] <Frogzoo> cheers, have a good one
[06:58] <bolsh> thank you
[06:58] <we2by> helo
[06:58] <we2by> what do I install to compile stuffs?
[06:58] <saif> hello, i've browsed the web, and there are many places suggesting where to set permanaent env variables, what is the best?? if i want to add the var for all users?? /etc/environment?
[06:59] <Frogsnooze> build-essential
[07:00] <ConfidentiaL> green_earz: how does it work? do I just use local user and use a mail adress like user@mydomain.com ?
[07:00] <we2by> Linux venus.cinaq.com 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:00] <bolsh> Frogsnooze: what's a good time to get people in ubuntu+1?
[07:00] <Kr4zy4p3> Just wondering...does Ubuntu have a Command line installer or a GUI installer ?
[07:01] <slavik> Kr4zy4p3: it's a "ncurses" installer (graphics from text)
[07:02] <Kr4zy4p3> ah ok, kool :)
[07:02] <erUSUL> Kr4zy4p3: it is a gui instaler ncurses based
[07:02] <jmoncayo> what is a describtor in c? could somebody explain it to me?
[07:03] <slavik> decriptor you mean?
[07:03] <Kr4zy4p3> ah ok, whats Gnome that ive heard of ?
[07:03] <slavik> Kr4zy4p3: Gnome is a desktop environment (the GUI to the OS)
[07:04] <Kr4zy4p3> kool, thanx :)
[07:04] <tuv> firefox launches xine to play embedded media although i have mozilla-mplayer installed. how can i make it use mplayer instead of xine?
[07:04] <jmoncayo> slavik, well descriptor do you know what that is?
[07:05] <slavik> jmoncayo: what kind of descriptor? (what are you learning C?)
[07:05] <slavik> a descriptor in C is usually a structure that describes something ...
[07:05] <slavik> structure == struct
[07:06] <jmoncayo> slavik, yes its for c, trying to learn something about networkprogramming
[07:06] <slavik> ahh, that is closer ...
[07:06] <slavik> jmoncayo: for files, a file descriptor would contain info like size, whether it is a dir, when it was created, etc.
[07:06] <Orunitia> How do I make it so the compiz desktop switcher cube thing stops switching when my cursor touches the edge of the screen?
[07:06] <slavik> for network ... I dunno
[07:07] <graft> tuv, did you install mozilla-mplayer for firefox or just for mozilla?
[07:07] <mlowe> i would like to become a developer, or tester, where do i start ?
[07:07] <slavik> Orunitia: please go to #ubuntu+1 for dapper support
[07:07] <slavik> mlowe: do you know C or C++?
[07:07] <Orunitia> ah, sorry
[07:07] <slavik> Orunitia: np
[07:07] <mlowe> slavik, sure
[07:07] <slavik> mlowe: for testing, just install things ...
[07:07] <mlowe> slackern, perl also
[07:07] <slavik> for devving, no clue :(
[07:07] <tuv> graft, i installed the package from synaptics.. that's it.. do i need to do anything else?
[07:07] <slavik> PERL OWNS!!!
[07:07] <schtinky> !tell schtinky about sudo
[07:07] <jmoncayo> slavik, yes i know smoething about c and c++, got it thanks
[07:08] <jadaz87> hello everyone i am sorry to announce that i might be going back to windows :-( to develop ubuntu
[07:08] <slavik> jmoncayo: np
[07:08] <slavik> jadaz87: huh?
[07:08] <tuv> graft, but where is the xine plugin coming from? which package?
[07:08] <graft> tuv: it's not a plugin, it's just launching an external program
[07:08] <green_earz> ConfidentiaL: have a look at the postfix site there is a very good doc section. the link for the howto i posted is for virtual mail hosting. the users do not have a system account they are all virtual accounts which is a lot better for security
[07:08] <graft> tuv: what's in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/?
[07:09] <jadaz87> slavik nevermind lol
[07:09] <tuv> graft, flash, java mplayer, totem
[07:09] <AleXC_> Hey,
[07:09] <AleXC_> I just added a WindowXP NTFS hard drive to my PC, but Ubuntu can't see it
[07:09] <graft> tuv: or maybe /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins... not sure what breezy uses
[07:09] <AleXC_> How do I go about mounting the NTFS hard drive?
[07:09] <tuv> graft, but it's /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox here
[07:10] <we2by> how do I install the latest kernel+source to build modules?
[07:10] <graft> what about about:plugins?
[07:10] <graft> tuv: um. where'd that totem plugin come from? i'd ditch that...
[07:10] <mlowe> AleXC_, mount -t ntfs /dev/ntfspartition /anemptydirecory
[07:10] <LinuxBa> Hi all
[07:11] <AdmiralA> Hi, can anyone please tell me how the hell do I install deb packages?
[07:11] <jadaz87> !language
[07:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[07:11] <tuv> graft, it belongs to totem-xine package
[07:11] <AdmiralA> oops, sorry
[07:11] <jadaz87> AdmiralA sudo dpkg -i <filename>.deb
[07:11] <graft> tuv: yeah, i'd lose that... probably conflicting
[07:11] <matth-w> How do I change it from totem to flash for my firefox?
[07:11] <AdmiralA> thank you jadaz87!
[07:12] <AdmiralA> thanks a katrabazillion
[07:12] <jadaz87> AdmiralA you are most welcome
[07:12] <AleXC_> mlowe: it says that HDA2 doesn't exist, i've tried all the HDA's but non ofthem work
[07:13] <thoreauputic> AleXC_: lower case
[07:13] <thoreauputic> /dev/hda2
[07:13] <AleXC_> I did,
[07:13] <schtinky> hi guys, I'm not understanding how sudo is just as secure as the traditional root user system, could someone enlighten me (and I've already read the sudo page at ubuntulinux...)
[07:13] <slavik> schtinky: sudo login will time out in 5 minutes I believe
[07:13] <jmoncayo> what is a POSIX?
[07:14] <slavik> jmoncayo: as standard for OS interface
[07:14] <redguy> schtinky: in fact it's more secure
[07:14] <redguy> schtinky: you can set up sudo so that it logs commands issued with it
[07:14] <jmoncayo> oki :)
[07:15] <AleXC_> how do I list what hard drives are on my PC, mounted or not
[07:15] <slavik> jmoncayo: how much of programming do you know?
[07:15] <slavik> AleXC_: you can go to the device manager
[07:15] <AdmiralA> and then disks
[07:15] <redguy> schtinky: also, you can lock the root account and use it with sudo only, justa as ubuntu does
[07:15] <slavik> I think it should lsit unmounted hard drives
[07:15] <AdmiralA> system
[07:16] <ConfidentiaL> I set up a webserver with lampp, bu I can't seem to be able to access phpmyadmin. I use the link provided on the pre-installed site, but it gives me a message asking what program I want to open this PHTML file in... Any1 know what's wrong?
[07:16] <AdmiralA> then disks
[07:16] <schtinky> redguy, slavik: I guess what I'm not understanding is how it's more secure. For instance, under the normal root situation, if one of my employees has a user account, he can't get into everything on the PC. Now, with a sudo user account a la ubuntu, he can manipulate anything, which is bad
[07:16] <slavik> schtinky: no
[07:16] <AdmiralA> ConfidentiaL - where'd you get LAMPP from?
[07:16] <AleXC_> slavik: where is that?
[07:16] <schtinky> redguy, slavik: please fill me in on my misunderstanding
[07:16] <slavik> schtinky: only the user account created during install has access to sudo
[07:16] <ozbiljan_de> does anybody run unbuntu 64 bit on an nvidia chipset
[07:16] <thoreauputic> schtinky: no, only the first user is in /etc/sudoers
[07:16] <slavik> AleXC_: see what someone else wrote
[07:16] <jmoncayo> slavik, i know programming but not like network programing or ports communication
[07:16] <redguy> schtinky: you can specify wghich commands a user can use with sudo
[07:16] <thoreauputic> schtinky: others would have to be added
[07:17] <slavik> jmoncayo: just making sure you understood my answer :P
[07:17] <AdmiralA> ConfidentiaL - synaptic package manager or apachefriends.org?
[07:17] <redguy> schtinky: only users which are in admin group acn use sudo in ubuntu
[07:17] <ConfidentiaL> AdmiralA: apache friends
[07:17] <jmoncayo> slavik, hehe oki
[07:17] <schtinky> thoreauputic, redguy, slavik: so i should install ubuntu with my username first
[07:17] <schtinky> thoreauputic, redguy, slavik: and then add my employee's user later?
[07:17] <slavik> schtinky: yes
[07:17] <slavik> yes
[07:17] <redguy> schtinky: true
[07:17] <schtinky> DOH
[07:17] <AdmiralA> ConfidentiaL - odd. it worked just fine for me....
[07:17] <ozbiljan_de> does anybody run unbuntu 64 bit on an nvidia chipset
[07:17] <slavik> schtinky: in fact, you can do the isntall once, image/archive the entire drive and use that on other systems
[07:18] <redguy> schtinky: what i said about admin group is the default, you can modify sudo config as you wish
[07:18] <slavik> and then simply add the users and whatnot
[07:18] <schtinky> thoreauputic, redguy, slavik: what if I created the first account under the employee's user, how do I correct it?
[07:18] <jorgillo> ola
[07:18] <_jason> !pt
[07:18] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:18] <redguy> schtinky: remove him from the admin group
[07:18] <slavik> schtinky: you have to change the sudoers config I think as someone pointed out
[07:18] <AleXC_> slavik: I can't find it - do I have to install it?
[07:18] <schtinky> redguy: how? I'm brand new to ubuntu
[07:18] <thoreauputic> schtinky: make a new account for yourself, add it to the admin group, remove theother one
[07:18] <redguy> schtinky: you might want to remove him from other groups as well, adm for example. adm members can read logs AFAIR
[07:18] <slavik> no ...
[07:18] <ConfidentiaL> AdmiralA: but also, there is a problem with my phpmyadmin installation from apt-get . It gives me errors when I try to install or remove it. Do you know how I can remove all traces of it manually?
[07:18] <slavik> AleXC_: wait, let me boot my laptop (it has ubuntu)
[07:19] <redguy> schtinky: are you familliar with debian?
[07:19] <AleXC_> slavik: it's ok ,I installed it
[07:19] <schtinky> redguy: no
[07:19] <schtinky> redguy which file is it
[07:19] <schtinky> redguy: or is there a gui
[07:19] <slavik> AleXC_: installed what? the drive?
[07:19] <AleXC_> slavik: no, device manager
[07:19] <slavik> (1:16:43 PM) thoreauputic: schtinky: no, only the first user is in /etc/sudoers
[07:19] <AleXC_> slavik: it's found the hard drive - but how do I mount it?
[07:19] <thoreauputic> schtinky:  sudo adduser <newuser>
[07:20] <slavik> AleXC_: hold on, let me look at mount man page
[07:20] <slavik> or you look at it
[07:20] <AleXC_> slavik:  I think i've done it now
[07:20] <slavik> "man mount"
[07:20] <slavik> k
[07:20] <redguy> schtinky: I'm sure there is a GUI for that, user-manager or something similar. To do it from the command line you might use sudo deluser employee admin to remove the user 'employee' from the admin group
[07:20] <slavik> AleXC_: why do you have to be such a quick learner?
[07:20] <thoreauputic> schtinky:sudo adduser <newuser> admin
[07:20] <AleXC_> slavik: it was hdc1 :)
[07:21] <slavik> hmm
[07:21] <slavik> interesting
[07:21] <thoreauputic> schtinky: then remove the old user from "admin"
[07:21] <slavik> oba na
[07:21] <ConfidentiaL> AdmiralA: Do I need some kind of client to access phpmyadmin?
[07:21] <thoreauputic> schtinky: thus the new user has sudo, the old one will not
[07:21] <green_earz> ConfidentiaL: to remove a package and its config files apt-get remove --purge package-name or aptitude purge package-name
[07:21] <AleXC_> How come SUDO can't use CD?
[07:21] <Newbuntu> anyone here know of a good place to get a deb package for mplayer?
[07:21] <AleXC_> sudo: cd: command not found
[07:22] <AleXC_> sudo cd /media/windows
[07:22] <slavik> AleXC_: no reason to use sudo for cd
[07:22] <slavik> just cd /media/windows
[07:22] <AleXC_> slavik: but I need to get access to /windows
[07:22] <Mathman> cd is a bash builtin, no?
[07:22] <erUSUL> !tell Newbuntu about repos
[07:22] <ConfidentiaL> green_earz: I had to reinstall it with synaptic to get it to work
[07:22] <slavik> when you want to mv or rm, then you might need sudo
[07:22] <erUSUL> Mathman: yes
[07:22] <thoreauputic> AleXC_: you never need sudo for cd
[07:23] <thoreauputic> AleXC_: if you can't access /windows, you need to fix /etc/fstab
[07:23] <thoreauputic> !mountwindows
[07:23] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:23] <Doat> AleXC_, try remounting it. i had the same problem but remounting solved it
[07:24] <redguy> schtinky: indeed, thoreauputic's advice is much better, if you had done what I have told you you might end up with a broken system :-)
[07:24] <thoreauputic> redguy: right - he would have lost all sudo powers
[07:24] <ConfidentiaL> green_earz: it still didn't work... I still get an error when I try to uninstall it...
[07:24] <redguy> thoreauputic: but this way he could learn about the rescue mode :-)
[07:25] <thoreauputic> redguy: hah !
[07:25] <AleXC_> gah, sorry for all the questions - how do I copy a file and all it;s content?
[07:25] <erUSUL> thoreauputic: never is a strong word. if the dir is chmod 400 or 600 you may need it afaik
[07:25] <AleXC_> a Folder and all it's content
[07:25] <redguy> AleXC_: cp -R
[07:25] <AleXC_> thank you :)
[07:25] <redguy> AleXC_: -R as in "recursive"
[07:25] <dont_kno> what s the root password
[07:25] <redguy> AleXC_: also, try cp --help
[07:25] <thoreauputic> !root
[07:25] <redguy> !tell dont_kno about root
[07:25] <ubotu> well, root is Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:26] <redguy> AleXC_: most commands have a --help option
[07:26] <schtinky> how do I remove the first user from "admin"
[07:26] <AleXC_> redguy: thanks, that will come in handy
[07:26] <redguy> schtinky: create a user who is a member of the admin group first
[07:26] <slavik> or -h
[07:26] <ConfidentiaL> what does it mean when I try to access phpmyadmin and it says "what do you want to open this PHTML file in?" ?
[07:26] <msoul> Okie, so I did boot in recovery mode and what I got is
[07:27] <_jason> !root =~ s/^/<reply>/
[07:27] <ubotu> _jason: that doesn't contain '^'
[07:27] <_jason> argh
[07:27] <msoul> temporary failure in name resolution
[07:27] <msoul> what exactly should I do
[07:27] <slavik> ConfidentiaL: does it give you an option to download the file?
[07:27] <redguy> ConfidentiaL: this means that you misconfigured apache or whatever your http server might be
[07:27] <cribbon> noone can answer my question in any of the other channels so i ask here, is there anyway to completely remove the xgl-restart feature ?
[07:27] <ConfidentiaL> slavik: yes
[07:27] <ConfidentiaL> redguy: its lampp
[07:27] <slavik> ConfidentiaL: read what redguy said
[07:28] <fyrestrtr> ..
[07:28] <slavik> ConfidentiaL: you need to make apache execute the file or whatever ... add the mimetype
[07:28] <msoul> could anyone tell me how I I change that failure
[07:28] <slavik> ConfidentiaL: check the apache docs or phtml docs, they should provide you with the proper way of editing the apache config file
[07:28] <msoul> *temporary failure in name resolution*?
[07:28] <redguy> msoul: why do you want name resolution in recovery mode?
[07:29] <msoul> redguy: after my installation all I got is a blankscreen
[07:29] <msoul> redguy: so all I got is ctrl-alt-f1 (console mode)
[07:30] <msoul> I honeslty don't know what to do exactly to solve this
[07:31] <shale> does anyone use dabber w/ winbind to auth against AD?
[07:31] <msoul> could anyone helpe me with that?
[07:31] <erUSUL> msoul: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[07:31] <_jason> msoul: you don't even get a prompt of some kind on tty7?
[07:31] <shale> i'm following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto but when i get to wbinfo -u i get 'Error looking up domain users'
[07:31] <msoul> erUSUL: yeah I tried that
[07:31] <pedro94> hola qieneres
[07:31] <msoul> _jason: no just a blankscreen
[07:31] <_jason> !es
[07:31] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:31] <cih997> hello everyone, I need to delete something on NTFS partition and I have Ubuntu Live CD. Haw can I do this?
[07:31] <GigaClon> !es
[07:32] <AleXC_> is it possible to get Folder information ( size, files etc ) via terminal?
[07:32] <_jason> msoul: when you did that, did you choose VESA as the driver?
[07:32] <_jason> AleXC_: ls -d
[07:32] <msoul> _jason: I honestly can't recall
[07:32] <we2by> hello
[07:32] <pedro94> cabron
[07:32] <avery_> buongiorno
[07:32] <_jason> AleXC_: and du
[07:32] <we2by> what do I install to get libc development package?
[07:32] <msoul> bbs
[07:32] <_jason> cih997: you can't write safely to ntfs
[07:32] <we2by> if I install build-essential, it install gcc-4 for me which is not the one used to build the kernel
[07:33] <_jason> we2by: install build-essential and gcc-3.4
[07:33] <Stormx2> how do I put a directory into a .tar.bz from the command line?
[07:33] <cih997> _jason: hmm, even delete?
[07:33] <shale> does anyone use dapper w/ winbind to auth against AD?
[07:33] <_jason> cih997: yeah, that involves writing
[07:33] <shale> i'm following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto but when i get to wbinfo -u i get 'Error looking up domain users'
[07:33] <shale> ?
[07:33] <we2by> how do I set which gcc compiler to use?
[07:34] <slavik> shale: #ubuntu+1 for dapper support :)
[07:34] <_jason> Stormx2: tar cjf file.tar.bz2 foo/, I think
[07:34] <shale> slavik thank you :)
[07:34] <_jason> we2by: export CC=gcc-3.4, before you compile
[07:34] <we2by> the nvidia driver is trying to use gcc4 which it should use gcc3
[07:34] <slavik> imo, linux needs a windows like driver install system ... (device manager)
[07:35] <_jason> ubotu: tell we2by about nvidia
[07:35] <cih997> _jason: but I've just read about special softwares... Do You know any?
[07:35] <_jason> !captive
[07:35] <ubotu> I heard captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[07:35] <_jason> heh guess that's not an option
[07:36] <_jason> cih997: captive is the only one I knew about that people have told me they had decent results with.  But I still wouldn't trust my data to it
[07:37] <janimo> nomed, ping
[07:37] <ConfidentiaL> debian is a different distro from ubuntu, right? so if I want debian I need to reinstall linux?
[07:37] <redguy> captive doesn't work under ubuntu? does anybody know why?
[07:37] <redguy> ConfidentiaL: most propably
[07:39] <cih997> _jason: my Windows XP has crashed because pagefile.sys file has been deleted with no reason :/
[07:39] <Fracture> how do I disable pcmcia services ? they fail on boot (on a desktop)
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> cih997: hrmm, smells like memory problems
[07:40] <_jason> cih997: maybe you can use the windows install disk to repair that?  or there is some thing called a bart cd which I believe is a windows rescue cd.  I don't know much about either
[07:40] <_jason> cih997: try #windows
[07:40] <fyrestrtr> actually, try ##windows
[07:40] <_jason> yeah, it would be ## :P
[07:40] <AleXC_> How would I network to a Mac ?
[07:40] <erUSUL> ConfidentiaL: yes
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> AleXC_: what would you like to do with it? Share files?
[07:41] <AleXC_> Yep, need to give the mac some files I pulled from a hard drive
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> macs come with sambafs installed. Just activate windows sharing on yours, and your pc will show up on the mac.
[07:41] <fyrestrtr> then share files as normal.
[07:42] <AleXC_> Ok, now time to find out how to activate windows sharing :)
[07:42] <redguy> !samba
[07:42] <ubotu> samba is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[07:42] <fyrestrtr> AleXC_: its installed by default, iirc.
[07:42] <cih997> _jason: I have 2 copies of Windows and both want to format c: but I want to repair it and I have Ubuntu Live CD
[07:43] <_jason> cih997: the ubuntu live cd isn't really your best option for writing to ntfs.  If I were you I would look around for a different cd that tries to implement writing to ntfs.  Actually, I would just scrap windows and install ubuntu
[07:43] <apache2> so why would adept be having a "could not open cache" error?
[07:43] <_jason> apache2: is that the whole error?
[07:43] <cazool> a
[07:44] <cazool> ??
[07:44] <cazool> who is chinese
[07:44] <apache2> _jason: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[07:44] <fyrestrtr> cazool: people from China?
[07:44] <apache2> I don't have apt-setup on my system
[07:44] <cazool> yes
[07:44] <_jason> apache2: what does apt-get update do?
[07:44] <graft> yuen wo-ping is chinese
[07:44] <apache2> _jason: doesn't fix the problem
[07:44] <CNAP> ok guys. i just wanted to put something out on the table for you. a recent article ran in slashdot (http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/06/04/19/1235227.shtml) basically saying that the biggest turn off for people converting to linux from windows is linux geeks' attitude towards newbies. i wanted to thank everyone here for proving that assumption wrong on behalf of the ubuntu community. i know i've left messages in other linux newsgroups and c
[07:44] <CNAP> hatrooms and have gotten the "RTFM" message plenty
[07:44] <_jason> apache2: does it throw errors?
[07:45] <apache2> no, works fine
[07:45] <_jason> apache2: do you have other things that use apt open?
[07:46] <apache2> _jason: nope :)
[07:46] <graft> ARGH! WHY does my wireless card keep hanging up?!
[07:46] <Fracture> CNAP, that is just another great thing about the ubuntu community
[07:46] <Fracture> ubuntu is more than just linux
[07:46] <apache2> _jason: I admit, I use dapper, but I was just interested if other people had this problem outside of dapper
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> yeah, it ubur linux :P
[07:46] <fyrestrtr> apache2: -.-
[07:46] <_jason> apache2: ah, I don't use adept myself so can't really tell you
[07:46] <jmoncayo> what is ipp used for? it says i have the port 631 open?
[07:47] <CNAP> Fracture, yeah tell me about it. I was shocked the first time i left a "newbie styled" question only sure to get RTFM as a response and people actually helped. i'm also shocked with the amount of activity goes on here 24/7
[07:47] <apache2> is 6.06 out for kubuntu? :P
[07:47] <graft> CNAP: we're bored, bored people
[07:47] <wvelez> jmoncayo: internet printing protocol
[07:47] <fyrestrtr> CNAP: its the general feeling around freenode, that's why I like this network so much.
[07:47] <fyrestrtr> join any channel.
[07:47] <fyrestrtr> and feel the lurve.
[07:47] <Fracture> CNAP, yeah, its pretty amazing how busy it is in here
[07:48] <AMDXP> ok i got a question is there a web page or a way i can search the repos for games and i dont mean like big name games my mom loves to play card and board games and although ubuntu comes with quite a few i want to add more
[07:48] <regulate> i've gotten used to the RTFM from other communities and actually decided to RTFM until it hurts
[07:48] <fyrestrtr> AMDXP: you can just use google, or apt-cache, or Synaptic and search for 'games'
[07:48] <CNAP> regulate, yeah i try and RTFM before i ask questions here but sometimes the freaking manual is indecipherable to a non-programmer
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> wiki is good
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> I love wiki
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> weeeekeeeee
[07:49] <regulate> lol i feel your pain
[07:49] <Newbuntu> does anyone here use konqueror?
[07:49] <apache2> man I didn't think kubuntu dapper was out yet... guess it is :D
[07:49] <regulate> you gotta read it till u understand :)
[07:49] <apache2> Newbuntu: yeah sure, konqueror is great
[07:49] <fyrestrtr> or you pass out, whichever comes first.
[07:49] <jmoncayo> wvelez, and what about port 32770/tcp open  sometimes-rpc3
[07:49] <regulate> its great tho to have a community who cares..
[07:50] <Newbuntu> apache I love it too, mostly because under breezy and dapper firefox ALWAYS crashes
[07:50] <regulate> i've been using linux forever and no one helped me nor did they care..
[07:50] <apache2> aw man isn't azureus on apt
[07:50] <CNAP> how are you guys upgrading to dapper?
[07:50] <_jason> !azureus
[07:50] <ubotu> methinks azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[07:51] <fyrestrtr> apache2: its already installed I think
[07:51] <CNAP> ubotu, what's the question about azureus? i think i can help
[07:51] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CNAP
[07:51] <fyrestrtr> oh wait, that's another cliet.
[07:51] <regulate> but i read that slashdot article and its actually true how linux gurus can craft a line of code but have a hard time crafting sentences to explain their cod
[07:51] <regulate> cde
[07:51] <Newbuntu> apache I just got java and flash working for knonqueror , but im having troubles with mplayer plugings to make realvideo and quicktime possible in konqueror, it works fine in mozilla but it crashes all the time
[07:51] <regulate> code
[07:51] <regulate> bah
[07:51] <_jason> ubotu: tell CNAP about yourself
[07:51] <fyrestrtr> CNAP: err, ubotu is a bot.
[07:51] <facugaich> I'm looking for a gfx editor besides the gimp, something with more functionality, like Flash (but just to create images)
[07:51] <CNAP> fyrestrtr, LOL, yeah i just figured that out
[07:51] <wvelez> jmoncayo: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77684.html
[07:52] <wvelez> HP Linux Imaging and Printing System
[07:52] <teletubbie> hi
[07:52] <graft> apache2: it's GPLd, but i think there's issues with distributing java, so you can't really put it in the repos
[07:52] <regulate> facugaich: try inkscape for true vector graphics
[07:52] <Fracture> inkscape is pretty good
[07:52] <teletubbie> why can't I update ffox through apt-get??
[07:52] <facugaich> ok, thanks regulate
[07:52] <xiaoyu> whereis the file that xfce's menu.xml cite of system
[07:52] <regulate> you can run flash through openoffice or wine but its stupid slow and choppy
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> !tell teletubbie about firefox update
[07:53] <regulate> np
[07:53] <xiaoyu> or where is gnome save its menu config file
[07:53] <Newbuntu> apache in konqueror if you go to www.dead.net does it work for you? it does in mozilla for me but not konqueror
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> !firefox
[07:53] <graft> facugaich: sodipodi is decent
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> !ff
[07:53] <ubotu> fyrestrtr: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:53] <Newbuntu> by mozilla i meant firefox
[07:53] <blindx> lol my monitor won't work right in 1280x1024 resolution, the refresh rate is too low.. so I just wear sunglasses while operating my computer
[07:53] <fyrestrtr> !tell teletubbie about firefox1.5
[07:54] <fyrestrtr> blindx: good way to ruin your monitor
[07:54] <blindx> fuck the monitor, good way to ruin my cornia
[07:54] <blindx> er, language. sorry :x
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> refresh rates too low.. :P heck i rember the Old days with refresh rates of like 30mhz
[07:54] <facugaich> that's a funny name graft, but I'll check it out, thank you
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> okay I'm corssing my fingers and hoping that ubuntu understands vista and that to add it to the boot menu -- and doesn't wipe out the MBR
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> yeah I remember the days when tv was like etch-a-sketch
[07:55] <cih997> Is anyone from Scotland??
[07:55] <fyrestrtr> and that cool 'bubble' effect you see now a days in photoshoots, was how you actually watched the 'tube'.
[07:55] <Newbuntu> apache, give me a cookie... I figured it out all by myself, you can switch konqueror to change browser identification.. in this case from default to explorer under xp and   BAM
[07:56] <Newbuntu> i'll never go back to firefox
[07:56] <serax> hi
[07:56] <fyrestrtr> lol @ installing bicyclerepair
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> firefox has too many cool  features I use - to ever use anything else.
[07:57] <hussam> Hi, I want to install dapper using a daily CD. which most recent daily CD works?
[07:57] <serax> i need something like winamp for ubuntu plz help...
[07:57] <fyrestrtr> serax: xmms
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> serax: if you want something like itunes, banshee
[07:58] <serax> hmmm i will test them both
[07:58] <Gau> someone should tell serax about mp3 on ubuntu as well, I'd wager.
[07:58] <fyrestrtr> Gau: he'll be back
[07:59] <teletubbie> hi, I use nvsound kernel module. it uses OSS. how do I setup software mixing?
[07:59] <teletubbie> does this onboard sound card support hardware mixing?
[07:59] <jmoncayo> could somebody help me why do i get this http://pastebin.com/669729
[07:59] <jmoncayo> please some help
[07:59] <dereks> serax: i also like muine
[07:59] <teletubbie> does OOS even support mixing?
[08:00] <dereks> serax: and rhythmbox is also a popular product
[08:00] <cens0red> how does ubuntu linux like it when you upgrade CPU, mainboard, and RAM?
[08:00] <dereks> cens0red: it likes it :)
[08:00] <fyrestrtr> cens0red: like a fat kid loves cake
[08:00] <cens0red> dereks serious? Won't freak out and fritz on me?
[08:00] <dereks> cens0red: you might have a problem with the mobo upgrade
[08:01] <teletubbie> cens0red, it will work fine
[08:01] <dereks> but i think cpu and ram should be fine
[08:01] <fyrestrtr> cens0red: if you think upgrade means Intel P4 > AMD 64 then you MIGHT have a problem.
[08:01] <dereks> cens0red: i would reccomend doing a whole new install
[08:01] <jmoncayo> wvelez, do you know why do i get this with apt http://pastebin.com/669729
[08:01] <cens0red> dereks so it won't like it
[08:02] <cens0red> ?
[08:02] <fyrestrtr> cens0red: for that upgrade, no problems. If you are changing the motherboard, then you will probably run into some problems (like sound, video, etc.)
[08:02] <dereks> cens0red: you are basically replacing the key components, and i don't think it will like the mobo upgrade
[08:02] <facugaich> jmoncayo, maybe you should re-download the repos, but I don't know
[08:02] <teletubbie> cens0red, I hope you have a separated partition for /home
[08:02] <teletubbie> ;)
[08:02] <jmoncayo> facugaich, yea i could but i wonder why i get that if everything was working just fine
[08:02] <cens0red> dereks new mainboard, cpu and RAM.
[08:03] <cens0red> and p/supply for that matter.
[08:03] <dereks> cens0red: right, i don't think it will like the new motherboard
[08:03] <dereks> the rest should be fine
[08:03] <dereks> (its all speculation, in an ideal world, it will work right)
[08:03] <facugaich> jmoncayo, sometimes that happens to me, but what I do is backup them
[08:03] <cens0red> dereks so it should run ... just won't know where the old vid/sound cards have gone.
[08:03] <facugaich> !repos
[08:03] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:04] <jesygem> hola!
[08:04] <serax> what kind of file system must i download when i want to install a programm? -> tar.gz or tar.bz2
[08:04] <jmoncayo> facugaich, but if i donwload the repos i think it would be much better than having the old ones
[08:04] <dereks> cens0red: SHOULD is the keyword, but if you have things like hda is now hdb, etc you might run into problems
[08:04] <jmoncayo> hola
[08:04] <jmoncayo> jesygem, hola
[08:04] <facugaich> both are fine serax, they are different compression types
[08:04] <teletubbie> hi, I use nvsound kernel module. it uses OSS. how do I setup software mixing?
[08:04] <cens0red> dereks cheers.
[08:05] <jesygem> hola, jeje soy nuevo por estos lares xD
[08:05] <isa> ola
[08:05] <facugaich> !es
[08:05] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:05] <erUSUL> jesygem: esto es uncanal en ingles para castellano vete a #ubuntu-es
[08:06] <erUSUL> isa: esto es un canal en ingles para castellano vete a #ubuntu-es
[08:06] <serax> thx facugaich
[08:06] <jmoncayo> hehe
[08:06] <jmoncayo> !es
[08:06] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:06] <jesygem> sorry i don't know that this channel don't allow speak spanish
[08:06] <AleXC_> Hey, I can see my Mac in Network Servers - but when I double click on it, it just goes to an empty directory
[08:06] <AleXC_> Why is this?
[08:07] <jmoncayo> AleXC_, in what network server do you find it?
[08:07] <fyrestrtr> do you have any shares defined in your mac?
[08:07] <jesygem> goodbye jmoncayo, i'm going to the spanish channel
[08:08] <AleXC_> jmoncayo: in Network -> Windows Network -> workgroup -> SCOTTS-MAC
[08:08] <fyrestrtr> got Windows vista dual booting with ubuntu -- life is good again :)
[08:08] <blindx> Can anyone help me with an install of QEMU ? I'm following the how-to but seem to have hit a snag along the way..
[08:08] <fyrestrtr> see you ubuntizens tomarrah :D
[08:08] <serax> msg ubotu register
[08:08] <teletubbie> some one try to dl ffox 1.5 plz
[08:08] <teletubbie> it says xml error!
[08:09] <blindx> http://pastebin.com/669746 -- My qemu problem
[08:09] <jmoncayo> AleXC_, thats maybe sometime you connected to that machine or from that machine
[08:09] <AleXC_> jmoncayo: nope, Mac has never connected to this pc
[08:10] <jmoncayo> kinda wierd
[08:10] <AleXC_> oh well, guess i'll just have to burn it on cd. why can't linux be easy to use ><
[08:10] <MisterN> hi
[08:10] <teletubbie> some one try to dl ffox 1.5 plz
[08:10] <teletubbie> it says xml error!
[08:10] <teletubbie> what od I install to get X development files?
[08:11] <zipper> In dapper, i'm desperately trying to get my tv-out through s-video to work. Tried reading a couple of guides and using nvtv, but whatever i do, i just cant seem to get a signal to my tv. Anyone who can give me a hint, or who knows a good guide for setting up tv-out?
[08:11] <userone> hello all...I have a problem with 'viewing' files. When I open a terminal and type 'ls -l' I can see all the files I expect to see. However, when I open a GUI file browser, I can no longer see my text files! Anyone have any ideas?
[08:11] <facugaich> zipper, join ubuntu+1 for dapper chat
[08:11] <blindx> userone: ctrl+h
[08:11] <serax> someone knows something like a tutorial for ubuntu?
[08:11] <sfar> i want to resize an image.. is it any program installed wich can do that? (except GIMP)
[08:12] <serax> or a faq
[08:12] <XamDM> sfar, gimp
[08:12] <blindx> sfar: whats wrong with gimp?
[08:12] <zipper> facugaich, well, it's more an "tv-out" topic than "dapper" really
[08:12] <zipper> but ok, i'll try
[08:12] <fyrestrtr> sfar: imagemagick can do that
[08:12] <serax> like how do i install a programm :)
[08:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell serax about synaptic
[08:12] <userone> blindx: I tried that first...show hidden files...but no luck! Thats why I came here! :-)
[08:12] <_jason> serax: check out help.ubuntu.com
[08:12] <serax> kk thx
[08:13] <facugaich> serax, also wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:13] <cyphase> :O
[08:13] <cyphase> Apple released Bonjour for windows
[08:13] <madrabbit> can anyone tell me where the meta file for bittorrent is
[08:14] <serax> k tanks!
[08:14] <ompaul> madrabbit, for what part of ubuntu?
[08:14] <madrabbit> i dont know when i try to connect thats what it wants
[08:15] <blindx> userone: have you just.. refreshed?
[08:15] <harfooz> serax, once you get imagemagick installed, try this on a COPY!! of your image: mogrify -resize 40% filename
[08:15] <sesstreets> If I install ubuntu server edition...do I have gnome installed?
[08:16] <sesstreets> Or do I get the command line?
[08:16] <userone> blindx: I can open the file in 'text editor' but I when I try to 'rm' it in the terminal ubuntu says 'no such file'. Strange?
[08:16] <blindx> very
[08:16] <LeaChim> Is there any way to import all my mail from thunderbird to Evolution - while still keeping it in the correct folders?
[08:16] <sesstreets> anybody?
[08:16] <facugaich> madrabbit, bittorrent isn't like Kazaa or another p2p client, it works in a different way
[08:16] <sesstreets> A special way
[08:16] <sesstreets> like this
[08:17] <madrabbit> please do tell
[08:17] <redguy> sesstreets: 1. there is no such thing as "Ubuntu server edition"
[08:17] <sesstreets> yes there is
[08:17] <facugaich> madrabbit, http://www.dessent.net/btfaq/
[08:17] <sesstreets> http://sesstreets.com/files/readings/ebooks/The_BitTorrent_Bible.pdf
[08:17] <redguy> sesstreets: no, there is not
[08:17] <madrabbit> thanks
[08:17] <userone> blindx: the permissions for the files are -rw-r--r--
[08:17] <sesstreets> yes there is
[08:17] <redguy> sesstreets: maybe you meant a server *install* ?
[08:17] <B0FH> !glxgears
[08:17] <ubotu> To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[08:18] <blindx> userone: what's the name of the file?
[08:18] <j0hannes> fyrestrtr: hello again
[08:18] <redguy> sesstreets: if yes, then you don't have gnome and Xorg installed. What would you use a GUI on a server after all?
[08:18] <ompaul> madrabbit, ,  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20060419/  in there you will find several torrent files you save and open them and all of a sudden you have downloads going on
[08:19] <sesstreets> For a home server+a regular server in one
[08:19] <userone> blindx: time_management
[08:19] <sesstreets> im not THAT good at linux yet
[08:19] <sesstreets> http://espelhos.edugraf.ufsc.br/ubuntu-releases/ubuntu-server/
[08:19] <jbaloul> anyone know of a sata / esata pci card that works out of the box (i am looking for a 3.gb version)
[08:19] <nicegoing> hello
[08:19] <sesstreets> newegg.com
[08:19] <blindx> userone: I'm stumped.
[08:20] <sesstreets> reguy I dont know...looks like it exists
[08:20] <nicegoing> anyone knows howto know what servers are currently running ?
[08:20] <rotagivan> i got an xp/ubuntu dual boot and don't have anything important in ubuntu saved, i want to install 5.10 over the older ubuntu, should i have any problems?
[08:20] <jbaloul> sesstreets do you know of a specific model?
[08:20] <sesstreets> Maybe
[08:20] <sesstreets> ALthough
[08:20] <sesstreets> I trust that basically any adaptec will work out of the box
[08:21] <userone> blindx: thanks for trying anyway...I have never seen this before either!
[08:21] <jbaloul> hmm interesting
[08:21] <jbaloul> ok will take that in consideration
[08:21] <jbaloul> thanks
[08:22] <redguy> sesstreets: well, look here http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/
[08:22] <redguy> sesstreets: no server edition in here
[08:22] <indyk> hello all
[08:22] <userone> can anyone else help with strangely behaving files?
[08:22] <g0dch1ld> Hi - is dapper ready then? :D
[08:22] <LeaChim> Is there any way to import all my mail from thunderbird to Evolution - while still keeping it in the correct folders?
[08:22] <redguy> !dapper
[08:22] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[08:22] <Stormx2> dapper isn't ready.
[08:22] <sesstreets> The only diff is that the server ed i pointed to you has all the stuff ON the cd
[08:22] <g0dch1ld> thanks. :)
[08:23] <sesstreets> Like its a cd repository of apache mysql and php
[08:23] <Stormx2> I wish they'd changed that horrible wallpaper >_<
[08:23] <Stormx2> I should upload the wallpapers i made to gnome-look now actually
[08:23] <redguy> sesstreets: well, it is not official I suppose
[08:23] <redguy> !tell sesstreets about nicktab
[08:23] <sfar> blindx: well, gimp is a bit overkill if i only want to resize an image
[08:24] <Mique88> ehm
[08:24] <Mique88> hi
[08:24] <blindx> Well it loads fast, and gets the job done, sfar.
[08:24] <blindx> So...
[08:24] <sesstreets> Gimp is almost on par with photoshop
[08:24] <Mique88> is there someone who speak italian?
[08:25] <blindx> I took Italian in high school.
[08:25] <sesstreets> I know it
[08:25] <sesstreets> Kinda well
[08:25] <blindx> gimp is not on par with photoshopppppppp
[08:25] <Mique88> si?
[08:25] <HedgeMage> Mique88: I think it's Bluekuja's native language
[08:25] <nicegoing> anyone can help.. I want to check which servers are currently running on my box
[08:25] <sesstreets> si
[08:25] <sesstreets> Mi parlo italian un piscioto
[08:25] <Mique88>  la prima volta che mi connetto...
[08:26] <sesstreets> que?
[08:26] <Toba> nicegoing: what servers are you talking about?
[08:26] <sfar> blindx: hehe, i dont think its THAT fast.. and actually its kinda bloated if you only need to resize an image.. its like installing OpenOffice package just to edit sources.list ;)
[08:26] <blindx> piscioto. i lose.
[08:26] <Toba> sshd and apache?
[08:26] <Toba> that sort?
[08:26] <Bluekuja> ciao mique
[08:26] <userone> ok...another question...is firestarter a good firewall and easy to set up?
[08:26] <g0dch1ld> hi - anyone here tried connecting your Ubuntu box to a projector?
[08:26] <redguy> sesstreets: hmm, it sees thet the server edition is official. Sorry didn't know about that
[08:26] <Toba> g0dch1ld: no but if it's VGA it should be fine I would think
[08:26] <Mique88> it's the first time that i'am connect here...
[08:26] <sesstreets> :P
[08:26] <_jason> !firewall
[08:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[08:26] <sesstreets> I did
[08:26] <Bluekuja> mique88 vieni nel canale italiano
[08:26] <Bluekuja> #ubuntu-it
[08:27] <Mique88> grazie
[08:27] <Bluekuja> ;)
[08:27] <sesstreets> A projector showing a widescreen desktop of ubuntu owns
[08:27] <AleXC_> Hey,
[08:27] <sesstreets> It looked bada$$
[08:27] <nicegoing> userone: firestarter is the easiest firewall.. go for it, it is so reliable, actualy it is just a GUI for iptables
[08:27] <Mique88> mi hai salvato chiunque tu siaa
[08:27] <LeaChim> Is there any way to import all my mail from thunderbird to Evolution - while still keeping it in the correct folders?
[08:27] <AleXC_> Will someone please help me network to my Mac, I have 14GB to transfer to it and I can't do that with DVD's
[08:27] <sesstreets> iptables is the hawtness
[08:27] <Bluekuja> haha
[08:27] <Toba> Mique88: #ubuntu-it please :P
[08:27] <sesstreets> alexc ?
[08:28] <AleXC_> sesstreets: Hum, what?
[08:28] <sesstreets> Guys you shuold be able to install mambo right?
[08:28] <Mique88> ehmmm.... scusa bluekuja
[08:28] <Toba> AleXC_: are you trying to transfer files to/from ubuntu?
[08:28] <sesstreets> And still have a mac connect to it?
[08:28] <g0dch1ld> Toba: - hmm...yeah, i can get it to show the boot process and shell- when it comes to X, i've yet to figure out how to write the xorg.conf to setup two screens...and I'll be dang'd if i can figure out the vertical refresh rate and the horiz sync-
[08:28] <Bluekuja> fai cos /join #ubuntu-it
[08:28] <nicegoing> anyone can help.. I want to check which servers are currently running on my box
[08:28] <blindx> alexc: why not? that's only 2 DVDs :P
[08:28] <Toba> g0dch1ld: yeah, xorg and dual screens can be hard
[08:28] <Mique88> mad ti sposo
[08:28] <redguy> !server
[08:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu 5.10 Server is out! http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html
[08:28] <sesstreets> Cause if u want to go from ubuntu to mac all you do is install apache and drag all the stuff into that directory
[08:28] <Toba> I did it last week
[08:28] <userone> ubotu: nicegoing: I have to connect to a Windows network...the IT guy is a bit of a git and hates Linux. He has threatened to try and hack my machine. Is firestarter what I need or is native Ubuntu good enough?
[08:28] <Mique88> eheh
[08:28] <AleXC_> Toba: From ubuntu to Mac
[08:28] <ubotu> that's too long, userone
[08:28] <Toba> but it took a lot of pain
[08:28] <sesstreets> If you want to go from mac to ubuntu
[08:28] <sesstreets> same thing buy use mac apache
[08:28] <AleXC_> blindx: no, dvd's i've got are 4.7 GB
[08:28] <sesstreets> Its the simplest way
[08:28] <sesstreets> AlexC_seriously
[08:28] <blindx> oh. i was thinking DL DVDs :P
[08:28] <nicegoing> anyone can help.. I want to check which servers are currently running on my box
[08:28] <sesstreets> Use apache to do it
[08:29] <Toba> you could use scp
[08:29] <Toba> if you care a lot about security
[08:29] <blindx> userone: ubotu is a bot :P
[08:29] <Toba> ooh idea
[08:29] <redguy> ubotu: server is also for Ubuntu Server support join #ubuntu-server
[08:29] <ubotu> redguy: okay
[08:29] <Toba> AleXC_: pm
[08:29] <redguy> !server
[08:29] <AleXC_> Toba: I don't care about security, I just want to go from Ubuntu to Mac via lan
[08:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu 5.10 Server is out! http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html, or for Ubuntu Server support join #ubuntu-server
[08:29] <sesstreets> Use apaceh
[08:29] <sesstreets> apache*
[08:29] <sesstreets> Its a webserver
[08:29] <userone> blindx: thanks! I was wondering about the strange reply!
[08:30] <fgarcia> hola,quien ay'
[08:30] <blindx> haha. he's a smart bot, though :P
[08:30] <david_> hello
[08:30] <sesstreets> You install it via synaptic, login with root, drag all the stuff from whereever it is to /var/www/
[08:30] <madrabbit> sorry some one stoped by
[08:30] <sesstreets> Then Figure out what your local IP is (like 192.168.1.100) and enter taht address in the mac
[08:30] <LeaChim> Is there any way to import all my mail from thunderbird to Evolution - while still keeping it in the correct folders?
[08:30] <sesstreets> got that alex?
[08:31] <_jason> userone: ubuntu runs no listening services on a default install, so iptables has no rules setup as default
[08:31] <Nrbelex> Hi, I have a few questions about users - Is the user created during setup the only user with administrative access (the only one able to install programs, etc.)?
[08:31] <madrabbit> i went back and seen the links thanks guys
[08:31] <sesstreets> Nrbelex ubuntu doesnt work like windows
[08:31] <sesstreets> There are (by default)
[08:31] <_jason> Nrbelex: he gets added to the 'admin' group automatically.  After that anyone else you add to the 'admin' group can have the same sudo privileges
[08:31] <sesstreets> two users.
[08:31] <LeaChim> Nrbelex, yes. you can add more admins afterwards if you want
[08:31] <Nrbelex> _jason, thanks
[08:32] <sesstreets> Yeah so technicaly you wouldnt have to login as root
[08:32] <userone> _jason: so that means the IT git shouldn't find a way into the system, or does that mean I need to set up the iptables to protect the system?
[08:32] <Nrbelex> Is it a securty issue if I regularly use this user for basic tasks (web browsing, etc.)?
[08:32] <sesstreets> No
[08:32] <sesstreets> Dont think so
[08:33] <LeaChim> Nrbelex, no
[08:33] <_jason> userone: if he does, file a bug :)
[08:33] <Nrbelex> Thanks again all
[08:33] <LeaChim> Nrbelex, if anything pops up asking you for your password - be careful
[08:33] <sesstreets> Yeah
[08:34] <intelikey> Nrbelex if the user is root.
[08:34] <LeaChim> that's the only way something malicious could break out of the confines of your user to attack the rest of the system
[08:34] <Nrbelex> Ok - thanks a lot
[08:34] <matth-w> _jason, Hey, this is nin. I was wondering about this flash, I'm not recieving sound through it... But I am getting video now
[08:34] <_jason> userone: nmap your system's ip and see if you find anything listening.  You can, if you want, isntall firestarter anyway, it will setup some iptables rules for you.  It doesn't hurt...
[08:34] <djk_> does anyone know of a way to convert chm to pdf or ps ?
[08:34] <Mathman> LeaChim: well, certainly not the only way, but perhaps the most straightforward way
[08:34] <Nrbelex> Is there a graphical way to setup Samba?
[08:35] <_jason> matth-w: install alsa-oss and run firefox as 'aoss firefox'
[08:35] <sesstreets> Nrbelex I do not think so
[08:35] <Mathman> Nrbelex: swat
[08:35] <userone> _jason: thanks...I will file a bug if he manages to get in! :-)
[08:35] <sesstreets> google it
[08:35] <LeaChim> Mathman, accepting there are currently no bugs in any software that would allow it to exploit something to escalate it's priveledges?
[08:35] <LeaChim> :P
[08:36] <_jason> userone: just make sure you update your system regularly and you should be fine
[08:36] <jadaz87> hello everyone i am wondering why after a vmware installation and i run it it runs fine but after i restart and click the shortcut for it it says starting vmware on the active app bar and then it goes away and nothing else happens
[08:36] <Mathman> LeaChim: sure.  I could alias sudo to something or other that grabs the password when you type it.  to give one example.
[08:36] <sesstreets> jadaz67 #vmware
[08:37] <LeaChim> Mathman, how can you do that? we currently only have user access :P
[08:37] <mbishop> How can I change the cursor theme? I unpacked a theme into /usr/share/themes but I don't see it as an option
[08:37] <jadaz87> sesstreets i am on ubuntu
[08:37] <blindx> in gimp: is there anyway to "dock" the windows together, so that when one gets minimized, or gets focus, they all do?
[08:37] <Mathman> LeaChim: so I couldn't mess with a users .bashrc or whatever?
[08:37] <mbishop> blindx, google for gimpshop
[08:37] <sesstreets> oh
[08:37] <sesstreets> jadaz87, then I cant help you sorry
[08:37] <blindx> I did mbishop .. it wouldn't installl..
[08:37] <_jason> blindx: you can drag the stuff into the same pane (somehow)
[08:37] <SSmith> Hey guys, I just updated my kernel from 2.12(Breezy standard) to 2.16.4 and now my network card isn't detected anymore?  I've googled around for a bit and couldn't find a solution
[08:37] <mbishop> blindx, well that's the only way I know of
[08:37] <blindx> _jason: yeah, but my screen isn't big enough for that.
[08:38] <sesstreets> SSmith, how are you talking to us then?
[08:38] <LeaChim> Mathman, but.... i said before to be careful about typing in your password :P - aren't you on about typing in your password? nothing that doesn't require a password
[08:38] <SSmith> I'm back in 2.12
[08:38] <sesstreets> oh
[08:38] <sesstreets> then just stay there
[08:38] <pppoe_dude> !ekiga
[08:38] <ubotu> from memory, ekiga is full-featured SIP and H.323 compatible VoIP, IP-Telephony and Videoconferencing application that allows you to make audio and video calls to remote users with SIP and H.323 hardware or software.
[08:39] <LeaChim> Is there any way to import all my mail from thunderbird to Evolution - while still keeping it in the correct folders?
[08:39] <Mathman> LeaChim: no...you said be careful about something that pops up and asks you for your password.  which in my eyes would be different from you yourself doing something like typing sudo, where you'd expect it to ask you.  anyway, whatever.
[08:39] <pppoe_dude> any chance of installing ekiga easily on breezy? last time i had to remove a lot of packages
[08:39] <userone> _jason: thanks..I am off to apt-get firestarter! :-)
[08:39] <sesstreets> good
[08:39] <jadaz87> hello everyone i am wondering why after a vmware installation and i run it it runs fine but after i restart and click the shortcut for it it says starting vmware on the active app bar and then it goes away and nothing else happens
[08:39] <SSmith> Well, I would like to receive the benefits of the 2.16 kernel
[08:39] <sesstreets> Like?
[08:40] <pppoe_dude> jadaz87, try ps -A |grep vmware, and see if there are any already running zombies... kill them
[08:40] <LeaChim> jadaz87, open a terminal and type vmware
[08:40] <LeaChim> jadaz87, and see what error happens
[08:40] <sesstreets> That souds like A game
[08:40] <sesstreets> "see if there are any already running zombies... kill them"
[08:40] <pppoe_dude> :P
[08:40] <sesstreets> with a shotgun
[08:40] <jadaz87> LeaChim vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured
[08:40] <jadaz87> for this system. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following command:
[08:40] <jadaz87> /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
[08:40] <intelikey> machetty
[08:40] <Nrbelex> intelikey, thanks
[08:41] <jadaz87> LeaChim i already configured it though
[08:41] <intelikey> Nrbelex np
[08:41] <Mathman> jadaz87: perhaps you just need to load the module then?  doesn't that vmware config script compile a kernel module?
[08:42] <jadaz87> Mathman yes it does how to a load that modules
[08:42] <Mathman> jadaz87: modprobe foo
[08:42] <Mathman> jadaz87: well, run lsmod first and see where you're at
[08:42] <teletubbie> I'm trying to compile scilab here. but got error when it is linking
[08:43] <_jason> teletubbie: you know they have binaries on their site?
[08:43] <scifi> weeerrrhooooo, im now online in ubuntu :D
[08:43] <scifi> and all with NO pci network card
[08:44] <teletubbie> http://pastebin.com/669804
[08:44] <_jason> teletubbie: and it's in the repos too although there was a bug that I don't know whether or not it has been fixed
[08:44] <scifi> neone wanna kno how?
[08:44] <teletubbie> _jason, yea. but those do not use gtk
[08:44] <intelikey> teletubbie why are you compiling scilab  ?
[08:44] <intelikey> !info scilab
[08:44] <teletubbie> I'm compiling scilab-gtk
[08:44] <ubotu> scilab: (Matrix-based scientific software package (a la Matlab and Xmath)), section multiverse/math, is optional. Version: 3.0-12 (breezy), Packaged size: 2395 kB, Installed size: 28956 kB
[08:44] <teletubbie> http://cermics.enpc.fr/~jpc/scilab/site/Scilab-Gtk/Scilab-Gtk/index.htm
[08:44] <jadaz87> mathman ok i did lsmod
[08:45] <scifi> erULUS u here m8?
[08:45] <mindaugas> hi from lithuania :):))
[08:45] <mindaugas> any one
[08:45] <mindaugas> ?
[08:45] <intelikey> well at any rate teletubbie you do have b-e installed,   right ?
[08:45] <teletubbie> what b-e?
[08:45] <intelikey> !b-e
[08:45] <ubotu> b-e is, like, totally, no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.
[08:46] <mindaugas> how to install skype on ununtu ??
[08:46] <Mathman> jadaz87: ok, well, yyou'd be looking for vmware something or othher.
[08:46] <teletubbie> I have huild-essential installed
[08:46] <mindaugas> how to install skype on ubuntu ??
[08:46] <jadaz87> math man Module                  Size  Used by
[08:46] <jadaz87> vmnet                  24356  12
[08:46] <jadaz87> vmmon                 100524  0
[08:46] <Mathman> mindaugas: me, I'd grab the tarball, extract it to ~/apps/.
[08:46] <teletubbie> ok, recompiling
[08:47] <Mathman> jadaz87: you coulda just said yes or something.  =)
[08:47] <Mathman> jadaz87: anyway, dunno what to tell you then.
[08:47] <Mathman> jadaz87: aside from trying to configure it again.
[08:47] <mbishop> How do I installed tor/privoxy? there doesn't seem to be packages  available
[08:47] <intelikey> may i ask who it is that is always rewriting the info in ubotu ?
[08:48] <jadaz87> mathman oh ok
[08:48] <sesstreets> mbishop, you might want to google it?
[08:48] <teletubbie> same error
[08:48] <scifi> if anyone here is using a adsl usb modem/router and cant get online in ubuntu like i have, pls try using a usb to ethernet adaptor, ive tried one and it work ! :D
[08:51] <intelikey> it's   a  shame !     every time some one gets a good help message set in ubotu,  some JERK always changes it.
[08:51] <SSmith> Hey guys, I just updated my kernel from 2.12(Breezy standard) to 2.16.4 and now my network card isn't detected anymore?  I've googled around for a bit and couldn't find a solution
[08:51] <sesstreets> Stay with 2.12
[08:51] <_jason> ubuntu: the ubuntu database website would tell you
[08:51] <_jason> erm never mind
[08:51] <SSmith> Well, I would like to receive the benefits of 2.16
[08:52] <mbishop> SSmith, what network card?
[08:52] <Nrbelex> I just set up Samba according to http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Share_files_using_Samba but I cannot access my Linux box from Windows
[08:52] <SSmith> Realtek RTL8201CL
[08:52] <blindx> Okay, I just install gimpshop.
[08:52] <scifi> cant believe this adaptor works, wont even have to open my pc now and buy a pci card
[08:52] <blindx> I see nothing different.
[08:53] <SSmith> its on an ASrock motherboard
[08:53] <SSmith> integrated
[08:54] <scifi> how do i check the version of my kernel?
[08:54] <Mathman> uname -a
[08:54] <Mathman> dpkg something or other
[08:54] <Mathman> apt-something or other
[08:55] <blindx> Anyone in here use gimpshop?
[08:56] <iceman> only failure in the entire linux operating system is the lack of a complete point and click installer ....
[08:56] <Elazar> I just noticed that the Firefox 1.0.8 update is available. Can anyone recommend whether I should switch to this or keep the copy of 1.5.0.2 that I've installed?
[08:57] <iceman> loki software had that covered. if only it would become a standard .... : ( until linux gains the simplicity for home users it still remains the "geeks" operation system .. sadly to say ...
[08:58] <edgardo> espaol
[08:58] <teletubbie> how do I get gmake installed?
[08:58] <edgardo> cual es el canal?
[08:58] <crimsun> teletubbie: install build-essential
[08:58] <edgardo> what's the chanell for hispan people?
[08:58] <SSmith> iceman:  Synaptic is 10 times easier to use than "wizards", if that is what you are referring to by point-and-click
[08:59] <edgardo> what's the chanell for hispan people?
[08:59] <teletubbie> I have it installed
[08:59] <edgardo> :S
[08:59] <_jason> !es
[08:59] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:59] <ssstormy> teletubbie, from a terminal, run "apt-get install build-essential"
[08:59] <blindx> edgardo, #ubuntu-es
[09:00] <ssstormy> what is this
[09:00] <iceman> SSmith no, synaptic does not cover after market software ... but linux is close ... like the sindows software and a installer ... all linux lacks
[09:00] <_jason> teletubbie: gmake is gnu-make which is just make in ubuntu
[09:00] <ssstormy> there is a #ubuntu-es but no #ubuntu-ja
[09:01] <tonyyarusso> How to find out the total installed size of a package, for instance how much more disk space would be required to add kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop?
[09:01] <tonyyarusso> (With dependencies, that is.)
[09:02] <Nrbelex> Once Automatix is used the update manger can then be used to update installed software, correct?
[09:02] <ssstormy> tonyyarusso, install it and do a df -h?
[09:02] <_jason> tonyyarusso: sudo aptitude -s install package, should tell you
[09:02] <stephen_banks> i'd just add the package to aptitude's download list, then it should have the total install size - "will use xxx mb of disk space"
[09:03] <_jason> !automatix
[09:03] <ubotu> automatix is probably unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> _jason: You are correct.  Now how about for finding out total size, regardless of what is already installed locally?
[09:04] <teletubbie> hi
[09:04] <MrPockets> hi
[09:04] <teletubbie> when I do apt-cache search scilab. I don't see it in the list
[09:04] <buzzed> can i ask a skype on ubuntu question?
[09:04] <_jason> tonyyarusso: aptitude show package, but that won't get you deps
[09:04] <teletubbie> but a few minutes ago some said I can install it using apt-get
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> Nrbelex: In other words, it might, if your system works at all after automatix ;)
[09:04] <nyersa> I have a question about ubuntu and newer dell laptops... is it possible to get a 9300 and a 700m to work with sleep mode?
[09:04] <Mathman> buzzed: what makes you think you couldn't?
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> _jason: Any way to get it with the deps?
[09:05] <_jason> !info scilab
[09:05] <ubotu> scilab: (Matrix-based scientific software package (a la Matlab and Xmath)), section multiverse/math, is optional. Version: 3.0-12 (breezy), Packaged size: 2395 kB, Installed size: 28956 kB
[09:05] <teletubbie> I ahve multiverse enabled
[09:05] <_jason> ubotu: tell teletubbie about multiverse
[09:05] <teletubbie> :\
[09:05] <buzzed> new here... might be more of a skype app question...
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> buzzed: You can certainly try.
[09:05] <_jason> teletubbie: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please?
[09:05] <_jason> !pastebin
[09:05] <ubotu> well, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[09:05] <Nrbelex> I thought Automatix was recommended fo new users...
[09:05] <_jason> tonyyarusso: I don't know how offhand, you could write a quick little script :)
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> Nrbelex: Some people recommend it.  They should be ignored, and the stance of people in this channel is that it is unwise.  You could look into !easyubuntu instead.
[09:06] <buzzed> anyways skype is installed and buddies added... but i send messages or see if they are online... any idea how to fix this?
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> _jason: I suppose.  I'll look through the aptitude man some more first, and if nothing might give that a shot.
[09:06] <nyersa> on a default load of ubuntu sleep mode is disabled/does not work on a 9300... is there any easy way to make it work?
[09:07] <Nrbelex> tonyyarusso, Ok, will do, thanks
[09:07] <teletubbie> _jason, http://pastebin.com/669854
[09:07] <Mathman> buzzed: you gotta try again on that one.  I can't really make heads of tails of that.
[09:07] <tonyyarusso> buzzed: I doubt it.  Basically, what I've found is that Skype devs don't care about the Linux build, and it has numerous bugs that are not looking like they'll get fixed soon.  Personally, I plan to switch to Ekiga shortly.
[09:07] <_jason> tonyyarusso: the problem I see is if you do that, then things like X will be included in the size of some of your packages
[09:08] <[Rodrigo> !search
[09:08] <ubotu> from memory, search is System>Administration>Synaptic, has a search function. Command line are apt-cache search "packagename", or aptitude search "packagename", or you can also do a package search via http://packages.ubuntu.com/<package>
[09:08] <teletubbie> _jason, can u plz do apt-cache search scilab
[09:08] <[Rodrigo> hi
[09:08] <[Rodrigo> sorry for the noob question
[09:08] <_jason> teletubbie: you only have breezy-backports multiverse enabled, you need breezy multiverse.  Want to use synaptic or edit manually to fix this?
[09:08] <[Rodrigo> but i forgot how i search for a document on shell
[09:08] <[Rodrigo> what command i use?
[09:08] <Nrbelex> Ok, so if I want to undo any changes done by Automatix which could be unsafe, is there anything I can do aside from reistalling the OS?
[09:08] <berto-> Hi everyone.  I need to upgrade an AMD64 system from 32-bit to 64-bit ubuntu.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this as painless as possible?
[09:08] <_jason> [Rodrigo: locate, or find
[09:08] <[Rodrigo> _jason,  thanks :)
[09:08] <buzzed> so skype sucks on linux? anyone able to use it?
[09:09] <Mathman> tonyyarusso: skype has always worked pretty much flawlessly for me, aside from the ocassional person being listed as online when they're not.  And this is mac, windows, and linux.
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> _jason: True.  Maybe I can script it to compare packages, and only give size of differences, like size(to add kde to existing gnome), size(to add xubuntu to server install), etc.
[09:09] <nyersa> [Rodrigo: you might want to update your locate database first
[09:09] <_jason> ubotu: tell buzzed about skype
[09:09] <jeff_hann> berto:i would recommend fresh install
[09:09] <scifi> anyone know why a usb to ethernet adaptor works but a direct usb connection to a router doesnt? ^^
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> buzzed: I use it, it's just not ideal.
[09:09] <nyersa> [Rodrigo: run updatedb as sudo or root
[09:09] <_jason> tonyyarusso: sounds like a nice exercize
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> Mathman: How d'ya like the part where you can't have any other sound while in a call?
[09:10] <patrick52222> im having a problem installing unrar heres the problem=http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12562
[09:10] <Mathman> tonyyarusso: never been an issue I don't think.  could be because I run kde and arts I spose?
[09:10] <leagris> can you help with sound issues? any sound plays abnormally slow like 10x time slower as normal
[09:10] <_jason> patrick52222: unrar is in multiverse
[09:10] <_jason> use apt
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> Mathman: Yeah, I think it's an ESD or OSS thing.
[09:11] <patrick52222> _jason: wat does that mean
[09:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell patrick52222 about multiverse
[09:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell patrick52222 about synaptic
[09:12] <_jason> patrick52222: multiverse is a repository and synaptic is an apt front-end to let you isntall things from it
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> buzzed: In other words, a lot of things work, and I have gotten a lot of good use out of Skype.  However, if you find something that doesn't work right, it's not going to get fixed by filing a quick bug report like in other apps.
[09:12] <patrick52222> ok
[09:12] <scifi> does ubuntu have its own equivalent to the windows task manager?
[09:12] <berto-> jeff_hann, ok, thanks
[09:12] <Mathman> scifi: sure.  bash.  =)
[09:12] <jeff_hann> n p
[09:13] <Mathman> scifi: nah, I'm pretty sure gnome has something similar, yeah.
[09:13] <scifi> mathman: whats it called? :P
[09:13] <Mathman> scifi: beats me.  I'd need to hunt around the gnome menus, and I don't have one handy.
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> scifi: Applications > System Tools > System Monitor.
[09:14] <scifi> ty tonyy, was right in front of me :P
[09:14] <leagris> Dapper sound issue. Can you help with sound played very slow on Shuttle SNP25 VT1720/24 audio chip ?
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> leagris: Dapper questions in #ubuntu+1, please.
[09:14] <Mathman> leagris: apt-get update?
[09:14] <userone> hello everyone...how can I delete a full directory? I have tried rm -r and also chmod -r to make sure there are no permission issues
[09:14] <wastrel> ubuntu
[09:14] <leagris> ok tonyyarusso
[09:15] <Mathman> userone: rm -rf /some/directory
[09:15] <leagris> Mathman, installed from flight6dvd dans upgraded to latest flight6 with dist_upgrade
[09:15] <Nrbelex> How do I get rid of Automatix and anything it may have messed up?
[09:16] <Mathman> userone: nautilus would probably work too.
[09:16] <userone> mathman: it says rm: cannot open directory 'business': Permission denied
[09:16] <Mathman> userone: I'd tend to believe it then.
[09:17] <userone> mathman: I already tried chmod -r business
[09:17] <userone> mathman: I believe it...I just wanna change it! :-)
[09:17] <martin_> Delete a full directory: "sudo rm -rf [nameofdirectory] 
[09:18] <Mathman> userone: yeah, you could do that.   like he's saying, permissions don't matter really to root.  but you could also just change the permissions so that you'd be allowed to access that directory.
[09:18] <matt__> hey I have a question for anyone
[09:18] <Mathman> userone: meaning chmod as opposed to chown here.
[09:19] <userone> mathman: how can I change the permissions on a top-level directory, and have all the files and directories contained within change aswell?
[09:19] <Mathman> userone: or again, this could probably be done via nautilus, if that's your cup of tea.
[09:19] <matt__> I have a question on installing plugins or codecs if anyone can help me out, I'm new to ubuntu
[09:19] <Mathman> userone: man chown and look for a recursive option?
[09:19] <userone> _martin: sudo rm -rf worked, of course
[09:20] <martin_> Ya
[09:20] <Mathman> userone: find ./foo -exec chmod
[09:20] <lossy> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[09:20] <lossy> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[09:20] <lossy> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[09:20] <lossy> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[09:20] <scifi> am i right in saying anything i choose from the system>administration menu will ask for my password?
[09:20] <pluto> is there any way of installing ubuntu off your hard drive???
[09:20] <Mathman> scifi: maybe
[09:21] <Tidus> lol... klined.
[09:21] <BearPerson> *nod*
[09:21] <Mathman> pluto: sure.
[09:21] <ficusplanet> Hey everyone.  Are there any good UML tools in Linux?
[09:21] <Seantater> please, someone, ban lossy
[09:21] <Mathman> ficusplanet: umbrello is one.
[09:21] <BearPerson> Seantater, ban?
[09:21] <ficusplanet> Mathman: Cool.  Thanks.
[09:21] <BearPerson> -!- lossy [n=qwer@dD5E0293D.access.telenet.be]  has quit [K-lined] 
[09:21] <WildZeck> pluto, live cdrom of unbuntu
[09:21] <BearPerson> that trumps a ban anytime :)
[09:21] <arrick> Seantater, lossy is a clonebot
[09:21] <Seantater> !clonebot
[09:21] <ubotu> Seantater: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:21] <arrick> someone loosed him and 3 others yesterday
[09:21] <matt__> can someone help me install a plugin for .mp3's?!?
[09:21] <Seantater> what is a clonebot?
[09:22] <pluto> my main prob is that i dont have a black CD
[09:22] <Juhaz> Seantater, not a person, just a program that automatically spams
[09:22] <pluto> nd my RW is broken at the moment
[09:22] <BearPerson> Seantater, basically someone is running a bunch of automated spam programs connecting from various hosts
[09:22] <BearPerson> that one has a global network ban for a while
[09:22] <_jason> ubotu: tell matt__ about mp3
[09:23] <pluto> i have XP installed on one HD nd my second HD is blank
[09:23] <userone> mathman: martin_: thanks for the help...
[09:23] <Seantater> ubotu: clonebot is an automated program that spams IRC channels
[09:23] <ubotu> okay, Seantater
[09:23] <pluto> can i install ubuntu on hd2 then when installed delet windows finally
[09:23] <simonpca> plop
[09:23] <_jason> !forget clonebot
[09:23] <ubotu> _jason: i forgot clonebot
[09:23] <_jason> that's useless
[09:23] <pluto> phantom Cd wont do it
[09:23] <matt__> Jason
[09:24] <pluto> can anyone help?
[09:24] <buzzed> the main flow of ubuntu users, i would guess, is from other distros and window. Anyone coming from OSX?
[09:24] <_jason> Seantater: sorry, it's just that the higher ups prefer that ubotu knows info that is helpful with ubuntu support and odn't like it to get cluttered
[09:24] <_jason> matt__: yes?
[09:25] <pluto> brb
[09:25] <matt__> I read up on the information and I found what I think are what I need to install, but I have no clue how this OS works, i just need help installing them
[09:25] <patrick52> !apache
[09:25] <ubotu> well, apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:25] <_jason> matt__: do you know about synaptic?
[09:26] <matt__> i know how to get there and then to the repositories, but no clue what either are or how to use them
[09:26] <_jason> matt__: have you been able to enable the universe repository?
[09:26] <nny> alright, lets see what crappened here.. had to delete my main account, created a secondary, deleted the old account, and tried to relogin, getting multiple gnome errors..
[09:26] <matt__> I just put ubuntu on today
[09:26] <scifi> anyone know if sonys sonicstage software for transferring tracks to sony network walkman/mp3 players has worked on ubuntu?
[09:26] <matt__> no how would I do that?
[09:26] <_jason> matt__: repositories are basically an online storage site for ubuntu installation packages
[09:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell matt__ about universe
[09:27] <Zoohouse> hello everyone
[09:27] <_jason> matt__: once you do that, you need to search for and install the gstreamer0.8-mad package for mp3 support
[09:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell matt__ about synaptic
[09:27] <buzzed> i would guess that sony generally does not support linux...
[09:27] <matt__> the installation, is it about the same as a Windows .exe?
[09:27] <nny> anyone?
[09:27] <Zoohouse> A while back I downloaded a game that was a first person shooter. It was very much like Unreal T.  Anyone know the name of the game?
[09:28] <Seantater> matt__: not even close
[09:28] <scifi> buzzed: they dont, but thought someone may have gotten a workaround
[09:28] <matt__> yeah that was my problem, i found a couple sites but can't install
[09:28] <Seantater> matt__: It close to the same end-result though
[09:28] <Seantater> matt__:what do you want to install
[09:28] <matt__> I was looking at http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/
[09:28] <_jason> matt__: check out your private messages from ubotu
[09:28] <Mathman> Zoohouse: you sure you're not talking about that quake clone?  is it an open source app?
[09:28] <matt__> well for starters I was trying to find something to play a .mp3, i need the plugin
[09:28] <Seantater> matt__: You can install that without needing to go to the website
[09:29] <matt__> yeah I'm readin them ty
[09:29] <Mathman> Zoohouse: or perhaps the tribes clone?  legends I think it is.
[09:29] <Zoohouse> Mathman, i don't think it was a quake clone... I am not sure now.. I think the name was something like nja ... something like thaty
[09:29] <matt__> quick question.. Drapper, thats the one thats comming out early next month right, we're all on breezy?
[09:29] <Mathman> Zoohouse: sorry, doesn't ring a bell
[09:29] <Zoohouse> it had a weird name
[09:30] <_jason> matt__: yeah
[09:30] <_jason> matt__: june 1st is the release date
[09:30] <matt__> how do I do the plugin?
[09:30] <ompaul> matt__, dapper will be called 6.06 breezy stopped being breezy the day it was released in 5.10 which is the version number (year month :-))
[09:31] <matt__> yeah I downloaded some guy's linux podcasts last night and he was explaining that, kinda cool
[09:31] <ompaul> matt__, no its super cool ;-)
[09:32] <scifi> hi ompaul: got my internet working, with a usb to ethernet adaptor!! :D
[09:32] <FlannelKing> ompaul: how did breezy stop being breezy on 5.10?
[09:32] <scifi> didnt even need a network card
[09:32] <beasty> morning all
[09:33] <SSmith> I think I might have figured out what part of the problem I am having is, the Realtek network card i have is listed as experimental when I "make xconfig"
[09:33] <matt__> I'm working on the universal right now
[09:33] <ompaul> FlannelKing, breezy is the development name :-) the release name is the number, due to the way repos are set up it gets confusing
[09:34] <matt__> I want community maintained "Binary" not "Source" correct?
[09:34] <ompaul> FlannelKing, you will hear people talking about woody and sarge and etch in debian it should be 3.0 3.1 and etch as it is still being developed :-)
[09:34] <wastrel> breezy is easier to remember than 5.10
[09:35] <Zoohouse> :(
[09:35] <scifi> i like the idea of using date as version, didnt know that :)
[09:35] <ompaul> scifi, :-)
[09:36] <ompaul> wastrel, well I remember october last year very well :-)
[09:36] <scifi> ompaul: will still need a network switch tho so my 2nd pc can access net via ethernet too
[09:36] <hartz> Dapper = 6.06 ??
[09:36] <simonpca> hartz: oui
[09:36] <ompaul> hartz,  if released in June yes, and it should be
[09:36] <scout> hey i installed slapd (openldap) via the package manager...how do i get it to run at startup?
[09:36] <scifi> even irc works better in ubuntu, i can see whose talking to Me easily!! :)
[09:36] <buzzed> one interesting thing... i have a 256M Muvo usb mp3 player...
[09:37] <FlannelKing> so, they decided not to use a dash afterall?
[09:37] <ompaul> scifi, have you got a pc or laptop?
[09:37] <buzzed> and it shows up as "244.3 MB Removable Volume"
[09:37] <scifi> 2 desktops
[09:37] <ompaul> FlannelKing, well I saw a rumour somewhere of a /
[09:37] <ompaul> scifi, so have you got a network card for the box?
[09:37] <buzzed> but it oly has 126MB of free space...
[09:38] <arrick> ok guys, have a great aftrenoon, Im going fishing
[09:38] <hartz> I just ordered 30 5.10 CDs and when they arrived here I had to pay import tax.  IMPORT TAX!!!  For a FREE PRODUCT!  and what is more, I imported it back to South Africa!  Ubuntu's cradle, and the damn government wants it's pound of flesh!
[09:38] <buzzed> when nothing is on it...
[09:38] <sfar> how do i run a perl script? with "perl filename.pl" ?
[09:38] <scifi> 2nd pc has a network card, This pc that i use doesnt, but the adaptor has solved that problem :)
[09:38] <redguy> sfar: exactly
[09:38] <arrick> hartz, thats why you gotta move local, or have ubuntu pay the shipping and taxes
[09:39] <redguy> sfar: or, you could make the first line of the script to be #!/usr/bin/perl -w
[09:39] <hartz> sfar >  If the perl script contains #!/usr/bin/perl  then you can just run it with ./scriptname
[09:39] <buzzed> so is the file space issue on basically a usb drive related to linux...
[09:39] <scout> hey i installed slapd (openldap) via the package manager...how do i get it to run at startup?
[09:39] <arrick> hartz, write them a letter with a copy of the reciept if it really concerns you
[09:39] <redguy> sfar: chmod +x script.pl and then run it with ./script.pl
[09:39] <arrick> ok later guys
[09:39] <buzzed> oh well , i outta here...
[09:40] <redguy> scout: isn't it started on startup?
[09:40] <sfar> hartz and redguy: will that be true for ALL perl-scripts? Or is there any scripts that's not really runable?
[09:40] <scout> redguy: dunno where to look, very new to ubuntu
[09:40] <scifi> ompaul: actually i get either a cheap network card or cheap modem/router (all in one solution)
[09:40] <scifi> network switch*
[09:40] <hartz> arrick > It is not worth the $5.50 equivalent I had to pay (About R34.50)... It is just a matter of principle.
[09:40] <buzzed> going to get a Sandisk Sansa e140 any thoughts on that is a mp3 player for linux?
[09:40] <FlannelKing> hartz: didyou explain to them that it is indeed free?
[09:41] <FlannelKing> hartz: since, Ive heard about import stuff before, but people just had to take teh time to explain how the software was actually free.
[09:41] <hartz> sfar > If the first line of the script is #!/usr/bin/perl, then your shell will use that as interpreter. Otherwise, use "perl script.pl"
[09:42] <beasty> anyone else has probs using a mx300 mouse ?
[09:42] <hartz> Flannel I tried.  But how do you explain to a post-office worker in a third world country what Linux is?
[09:42] <scifi> am i ok to install java via firefox?
[09:42] <scout> redguy: how do i check if its already set to load on start? for instance in gentoo i had to rc-update...
[09:43] <redguy> scout: well, in ubuntu (and in Debian in general) we have update-rc.d
[09:43] <hartz> FlannelKing> BTW my previous orders (10 CDs or so each) were always free, it is only my last big order that I had to pay import tax for.
[09:43] <ompaul> scifi, best is always a cheap router no depending on the other box to work etc
[09:43] <scout> redguy: cool i'm lookin forward to learning that. thanks i'll play with that now.,
[09:43] <redguy> scout: ls -l /etc/rc`runlevel | cut -f 2 -d" "`.d/ | grep slapd
[09:44] <mcf501> does anyone have troubles with Gdesklets and dapper?
[09:44] <redguy> scout: this might tell you if slapd is started on the current runlevel
[09:44] <hartz> Hmmmmm.... I'm trying to get sound from my rear speakers using "sound-test", but no luck....
[09:44] <scifi> ompaul: so with a network switch main pc has to be on for 2nd pc to access the net, even tho both are plugged into the router via the switch?
[09:44] <scout> ls -l /etc/rc  'runlevel | cut -f 2 -d" "'.d/ | grep slapd
[09:44] <scout> ls: /etc/rc: No such file or directory
[09:44] <scout> ls: runlevel | cut -f 2 -d" ".d/: No such file or directory
[09:45] <Matic`Makovec> hey guys, how do you deal with cpkg packages?
[09:45] <scout> redguy: wait i copied pasted this time
[09:45] <redguy> scout: check the commandline I gave you again
[09:45] <scout> redguy: lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 15 Apr 19 15:24 S19slapd -> ../init.d/slapd
[09:45] <redguy> scout: it's ` not ' and there are less sapces
[09:45] <ompaul> scifi, switch != router
[09:45] <ompaul> scifi, for two boxes simple hub would be useful
[09:46] <redguy> scout: well, S signifies that the service is started
[09:46] <scout> redguy: thats a bit more complex then i'mused to :P
[09:46] <scout> redguy: ok
[09:46] <Matic`Makovec> !tell Matic`Makovec about cpkg
[09:46] <scifi> ompaul: i thought hub/switch are the same, router is different
[09:46] <hartz> Tha ALSA speaker-test only produces sound from front left and front read, none of the other channels produce any sound
[09:46] <Matic`Makovec> ah well
[09:47] <ompaul> scifi, point brain is tired :-)
[09:47] <scifi> i just tried installing java via firefox and it says not available
[09:47] <scifi> ompaul, no worries :)
[09:47] <redguy> scout: there might be an easier way, read update-rc.d manpage for some info
[09:50] <scifi> am i ok to use the self-extracting java files for linux from the java website?
[09:50] <teletubbie> !firefox
[09:50] <teletubbie> !firefox1.5
[09:50] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:50] <scout> redguy: thanks man appreciate the help ;)
[09:51] <scifi> or is there a better way?
[09:51] <mcf501> How and i stop Gdesklets from crashing on start up?
[09:52] <scifi> neone?
[09:53] <mcf501> scifi: yea your fine
[09:53] <Zoohouse> I found the game :D
[09:54] <scifi> is there a way of doing it within ubuntu, i.e synaptic package manager?
[09:55] <Elazar> I'm using acidrip to rip a DVD to an Xvid AVI file and the audio sync is off. Any suggestions on how to get it right?
[09:55] <mcf501> not that i am aware of, there is blackdown java which you can apt-get
[09:56] <blindx> in dos, there's the | more function to make the text stop when it fills up the screen.. how do you do this in linux?
[09:56] <blindx> haha nevermind
[09:56] <blindx> it's just the |more thing
[09:57] <scifi> hmmm whats going on, suddenly the "add applications" entry in applications menu doesnt execute when i click on it :O
[09:58] <hartz> blindx, try less, because less is more, just more.
[09:58] <blindx> hartz, what?
[09:58] <hartz> blindx > command | less
[09:58] <robcasar> ciao
[09:58] <hartz> blindx "less" allows you to go backwards by typing "b"
[09:58] <blindx> I see.
[09:59] <Elazar> blindx: I think you can use the arrow keys with less also, and use Ctl+f and Ctl+b to go one screen forward and backward respectively.
[09:59] <hartz> blindx Some usefull keys:  u and d god up and down HALF a screenfull at a time.  ENTER is down ONE line.  Space is down a screen-full. q = quit
[09:59] <rossinio> hi, this may be a bit of a noob question but is it possible to install ubuntu on a zen micro without damaging the boot table or anything (it can act as a usb disk under windows)
[09:59] <robcasar> anybody use wine with amd64?
[10:00] <slew> is there a shockwave player for linux anywhere?
[10:00] <Polypterus> Hi. Is there any program available that can display detailed information about my hardware, like RAM and CPU etc? Something like Everest Home for Windows.
[10:00] <accumulator> rossinio: no problem
[10:00] <NoUse> !shockwave
[10:00] <ubotu> Unfortunately there is no shockwave available for Linux (unless you use wine).  Please lobby Macromedia!
[10:00] <Ribs> robcasar: I use Cedega and Crossover... Never been able to get wine to play ball for some reason :/
[10:00] <Cooner750> FINALLY. Is it hard enough to get in here!?
[10:00] <UBUNTUUSER2002> I have a serious problem
[10:00] <UBUNTUUSER2002> I had to boot on the Live CD
[10:00] <hartz> blindx > but the most usefull aspect of less (and more) is SEARCHING!!!  start a less on a file, then type /XXXXX and it wil find the next occurence of XXXX and highlight it.
[10:01] <UBUNTUUSER2002> i installed ubuntu yesturday and installed the  nvidia drivers
[10:01] <blindx> wow, nice.
[10:01] <blindx> thanks hartz
[10:01] <robcasar> i don't know how compile my wine :)
[10:01] <redguy> UBUNTUUSER2002: did you use any guide?
[10:01] <UBUNTUUSER2002> i booted up x today and it says it cant start x because the nvidia drivers dont match kernal
[10:01] <robcasar> i got an stupid error
[10:01] <Ribs> robcasar: I know for a fact that wine does not compile in amd64 yet. Use binary packages.
[10:01] <NoUse> robcasar winehq.com has apt repos
[10:01] <UBUNTUUSER2002> how do i uninstall the drivers from command line??
[10:01] <tyler> Hey how do I make files ending in '~' not appear in my GUI?
[10:01] <eytyxios> hello, is there a program to setup hardware? I have problems with a 6button mice (gm4200)
[10:02] <Ribs> robcasar: But even with binary packages, I couldn't get wine to work... then again, I didn't try too hard.
[10:02] <redguy> robcasar: AFAIK wine does not work on 64 bit platform...
[10:02] <robcasar> for amd64 ? .... are you seure?
[10:02] <hartz> blindx > You can even search backwards in a file Using ?XXXX in stead of /XXXX.  Cheack out the man page - there's a HOST of options and settings you can use!
[10:02] <robcasar> ah
[10:02] <NoUse> robcasar oh sorry, I dont know about AMD64
[10:03] <hartz> UBUNTUUSER That's a good question!  but you could of course just reverse the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file changes
[10:03] <UKMatt> is there a middle click scroll in Ubuntu?
[10:03] <Cooner750> what is the deal with all of the trouble to get in here?
[10:03] <UBUNTUUSER2002> hartz how?
[10:03] <Polypterus> Is there any program available for Linux (using Ubuntu of course) that can display detailed information about my hardware, like RAM and CPU etc?
[10:03] <hartz> UBUNTUUSER2002, can you get into the /etc/X11 directory?
[10:04] <ompaul> Cooner750, there was a bot attack on the network that was to stop bots getting in here and causing disruption
[10:04] <openandfree> Polypterus yes
[10:04] <openandfree> google is your friend
[10:04] <UBUNTUUSER2002> can i do it frm the live cd?
[10:04] <scifi> i get following error when doing sudo apt-get for flash-plugin: sudo: /usr/sbin/update-flashplugin: command not found
[10:04] <Cooner750> I was about to just give up altogether
[10:04] <openandfree> one tip - sensors (find a frontend)
[10:04] <teletubbie> can some one download ffox 1.5 for me?
[10:04] <KurtKraut> I have a Breezy server and when my server is rebooted, the file /etc/resolv.conf is cleared. How can I avoid Breezy from loosing the nameserver condifuration ?
[10:04] <teletubbie> my ffox 1.x got error when trying to dl
[10:04] <jadaz87> teletubbie ?
[10:04] <Polypterus> openandfree: do you know the name of the program?
[10:04] <jadaz87> teletubbie you can use another browser
[10:05] <teletubbie> I don't have another one :\
[10:05] <Cooner750> If I can get my temper back down from trying to join the channel I'll ask my ubuntu-related question
[10:05] <jadaz87> teletubbie you can install it
[10:05] <teletubbie> like what
[10:05] <openandfree> Polypterus no, but i know it exists
[10:05] <hartz> UBUNTUUSER2002, No, you cannot access the hard drive from the Live CD.
[10:05] <Polypterus> openandfree: ok mate , thanks
[10:05] <bohan> hi, i'm looking for an equivalent to the debootstrap script, but couldn't see it at the ubuntu.com site
[10:06] <hartz> UBUNTUUSER2002, boot normally, then press CTRL-ALT-F1 to get a Terminal login session.  Log in, then type sudo -s to become root
[10:06] <jadaz87> can someone tell me what Espresso is? and if i install it on a livecd what it whould do?
[10:06] <openandfree> Polypterus you always have the system monitor, which tells you the amount of cpu and ram usage
[10:06] <UBUNTUUSER2002> ok hart
[10:06] <UBUNTUUSER2002> how do i fix it from there?
[10:07] <KurtKraut> jadaz87, Espresso is a Ubuntu installer that can be runned from a LiveCD. In our next release, called Dapper, you'll be able to install Ubuntu in the computer from the LiveCD.
[10:07] <ksafe> join ubuntu-cn
[10:07] <slew> Polypterus, have you looked at the system monitor?
[10:07] <rukuartic> Heyo everyone...
[10:07] <hartz> UBUNTUUSER2002, Once you are logged in as root, go to /etc/X11 and view what files.  If there is a backup config files (xorg.conf.bak or something similar, restore that to xorg.conf).  Otherwise edit the file and remove the nv or nvidia references, by replacing it"vesa" with
[10:08] <bohan> ok, bye.. channel is too crowded
[10:08] <Polypterus> openandfree: yes mate I know about that one, but I'd like something to display for example what kind of RAM, CPU and HD I have. Very handy when hardware upgrade is necessary.
[10:08] <UBUNTUUSER2002> how do i edit it?
[10:08] <slew> Polypterus, oooh ok. sorry then. =] 
[10:08] <Polypterus> I use gkrellm for memory usage and stuff
[10:08] <Polypterus> very nice program
[10:09] <jadaz87> ubuntu makes the news once again :-) http://news.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/04/19/1547230&from=rss
[10:09] <hartz> UBUNTUUSER2002, , once in the /etc/X11 dir, type "nano xorg.conf"
[10:09] <jadaz87> what is the channel for edgy?
[10:09] <openandfree> Polypterus take a look at your /proc/ directory and see the contents of those text files, they tell you much things about your hardware
[10:09] <ompaul> jadaz87, but there will be nothing there yet i imagine dapper+1
[10:09] <hartz> UBUNTUUSER2002, nano is an easy-to-use terminal (cli) text editor - you can use arrow keys, etc.
[10:10] <openandfree> for instance - cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:10] <mzinz> Hey how do I make files ending in '~' not appear in my GUI?
[10:10] <rukuartic> UBUNTUUSER2002: (cli = command line interface)
[10:10] <hartz> UBUNTUUSER2002, The important thing is, replace the Driver "nv" or "Driver "nvidia" with Driver "vesa".
[10:11] <djk_> does anyone know of a way to convert chm to pdf or ps ?
[10:11] <hartz> UBUNTUUSER2002, Once you saved the file, enter /etc/init.d/gdm restart (Or reboot)
[10:11] <Polypterus> openandfree: oh, cool. nice1
[10:11] <hartz> dammit
[10:11] <scifi> i cant get java to install using apt-get, can anyone help?
[10:12] <slew> scifi, check the ubuntu wiki
[10:13] <Polypterus> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c249
[10:13] <scifi> slew: i have used the commands on the ubuntu wiki
[10:13] <bur[n] er> djk_: there's a chm viewer if i recall... then maybe you can print to a pdf printer?
[10:13] <Polypterus> ah, beat me to it slew :)
[10:13] <mzinz> Whats a really good system monitor plugin for SuperKaramba?
[10:14] <scifi> o right thats different to what i saw
[10:14] <Cooner750> I think my temper has finally cooled off. What is the command to reconfigure the X server? I took out a space-wasting heat-generating AGP video card and reconnected the monitor to the onboard video and it crashes to the X server blue screen
[10:14] <slew> scifi, yeah, its a bit diffrent, just take your time. =] 
[10:14] <djk_> bur[n] er: there are a few. xCHM doesn't support that, and there aren't any others in the repos.
[10:14] <teletubbie> how do you start epiphany?
[10:15] <teletubbie> I just installed it but the command is not there :\
[10:15] <diggyz> Can someone help me please? ill try boot my ubuntu livecd and all i get is the mousepointer and the brown backgrounds.. no icons or something like that =(
[10:15] <diggyz> worked fine on my friends computer
[10:15] <slew> Cooner750, sudo dpkg-reconfigure x-server
[10:15] <rukuartic> diggyz: How old is your comp, out of interest? And are there any icons to appear on the desktop? Do you get the menu bars?
[10:16] <scifi> hmmm whats going on, suddenly the "add applications" entry in applications menu doesnt execute when i click on it :O
[10:16] <mzinz> Whats the KDE program Ark do?
[10:16] <hartz> Cooner750, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:16] <diggyz> rukuartic: no bars, no icons, nothign more then pointer and background color.. computer is a amd64 3500+
[10:16] <Rondom_> mzinz: it's for archives
[10:16] <Rondom_> mzinz: extracting, creating and so on
[10:17] <rukuartic> diggyz: Out of interest, did you see if there was a 64 bit live CD availiable? did you download it if there was?
[10:17] <flithm> hey everyone... is there a repo somewhere for up to date nvidia drivers?
[10:17] <Warbo> flithm: Dapper now has the latest
[10:17] <hartz> slew do you know how to get sound from the rear speakers?
[10:17] <geronimo_> who in hell is using my fine nickname?
[10:18] <diggyz> rukuartic: there is a 64bit livecd out, but i downloaded the nprmal i386 cause i wanted it for my other computer also
[10:18] <jadaz87> !language
[10:18] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[10:18] <apokryphos> geronimo_: if you registered it you can just kick them using ghost
[10:18] <flithm> Warbo, gotcha... is upgrading to dapper generally recommended? :)
[10:18] <Warbo> flithm: I don't think anyone will bother adding them to Breezy
[10:18] <slew> hartz, sorry, i only have the headphones.
[10:18] <geronimo_> apokryphos, a god damn bot is using it O_O
[10:18] <accumulator> !mplayer
[10:18] <ubotu> somebody said mplayer was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[10:18] <HedgeMage> geronimo_: if you are having problems with your freenode nick, just /msg me or any other freenode staffer for help
[10:18] <jadaz87> !tel geronimo_ about language
[10:18] <ubotu> jadaz87: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:18] <geronimo_> oh, this is freenode?
[10:19] <apokryphos> geronimo_: /msg nickserv ghost username password
[10:19] <apokryphos> geronimo_: yes
[10:19] <geronimo_> yay
[10:19] <jadaz87> !tell geronimo_ about language
[10:19] <hartz> ubuto who said something rude!!!!?  who? who!?
[10:19] <geronimo_> jadaz87, stop spam
[10:19] <Warbo> flithm: Well, I wouldn't recommend it if you are happy with Breezy. The only things I like about it are tiny things like a slightly better "Extract Here" in Nautilus. Not worth it if you are on Breezy though
[10:19] <jadaz87> geronimo_ stop with your language
[10:19] <scifi> shud i grant the "stop thread" runtimepermission when configuring java?
[10:19] <apokryphos> jadaz87: stop
[10:19] <geronimo_> jadaz87, my language is fine
[10:19] <flithm> Warbo, actually I'm not that happy with Breezy at all... all the packages are so old!  is there an automated upgrade procedure?
[10:20] <jadaz87> and i have not spammed anyway
[10:20] <trainstroker> can i write to ntfs on ubuntu?
[10:20] <trainstroker> its a windows partition
[10:20] <jadaz87> trainstroker no you can not, you can read from it
[10:20] <trainstroker> fack
[10:20] <Warbo> flithm: If you really want to upgrade then the easiest way is to open up "/etc/apt/sources.list" as super user and change every "breezy" to "dapper", then update and dist-upgrade apt (or Synaptic)
[10:20] <trainstroker> sotheres no way to do it
[10:21] <flithm> Warbo, gotcha... thanks :)
[10:21] <zF> trainer, I know there's someway to do it, but I forget.
[10:21] <flithm> Warbo, so update all the packages first... then dist-upgrade?
[10:21] <scifi> neone pls?
[10:21] <thesaltydog> dapper does not automatically upgrade gconf tree to the new merged-tree in gconf2?
[10:22] <Klowner> gaah why did I upgrade to dapper
[10:22] <flithm> heh
[10:22] <Klowner> actually, it's quite nice and usable, but there's no inkscape
[10:22] <zim> hi all how can i rm -Rf *.m4a that will look in all dirs from ./
[10:22] <Warbo> flithm: The "update" refers to apt updating it's lists of packages and "upgrade" refers to actually getting the newer packages, that is the general use of those terms
[10:22] <flithm> Warbo, thanks
[10:22] <diggyz> if i have a amd64 do i need the amd64 version of the live cd then? or nornal i386 works fine?
[10:22] <Klowner> zim: probably using the find command, somehow.. one sec, I'll googly
[10:23] <zim> ty
[10:23] <slew> diggyz, you prolly want the 64bit version
[10:23] <Warbo> diggyz: Both should work but amd64 should make full use of your hardware
[10:23] <scifi> shud i grant the "stop thread" runtimepermission when configuring java?
[10:23] <diggyz> okey thanks
[10:23] <Klowner> zim:  here ya go  http://www.tech-recipes.com/unix_tips129.html
[10:23] <zim> ty
[10:23] <accumulator> zim: for i in `find / -name *m4a`; do rm -i $i; done
[10:24] <Klowner> or accumulator's method
[10:24] <mzinz> My sound works perfectly in Gnome,but won't work in KDE... What can i do?
[10:24] <diggyz> cause my livecd cant start, i just got the mousepointer and backgrounds brown
[10:24] <diggyz> then i stops
[10:24] <apokryphos> zim: you'll want a ./ there instead of a /
[10:24] <zim> i was just about to ask that
[10:24] <apokryphos> accumulator: that'll remove all m4as on his hard-drive :)
[10:25] <accumulator> sorry. good thing I put the -i in :)
[10:25] <vinboy> hi
[10:25] <vinboy> how do I defrag my ext3 filesystem?
[10:25] <Warbo> digyz: That sounds like it might be a problem with one of the programs. Usually if it is a major problem like x86 not working on amd64 then it would get an error WAY before then. Which type of disc do you have and which version (breezy or dapper)
[10:25] <zim> what is the -i
[10:25] <jadaz87> vinboy there is not need to defrag it
[10:25] <jadaz87> no*
[10:25] <apokryphos> zim: prompt before removing
[10:25] <diggyz> Warbo:
[10:25] <zim> ok
[10:25] <accumulator> zim: interactive. it asks for confirmation
[10:25] <vinboy> jadaz87: ok thanks
[10:25] <diggyz> Warbo: ubuntu-5.10-live-amd64.iso
[10:25] <scifi> shud i grant the "stop thread" runtimepermission when configuring java or not?
[10:25] <zim> kewl
[10:27] <zim> So this will just do it but from the point i enter the command--->for i in `find ./ -name *m4a`; do rm $i; done
[10:27] <accumulator> yep
[10:27] <kiko0123> is there any Grub (boot loader) settings app in ubuntu ?
[10:27] <trainstroker> can i write to ntfs on ubuntu?
[10:27] <zim> ty all
[10:27] <accumulator> trainstroker: no
[10:27] <apokryphos> trainstroker: no; ntfs-writing on GNU/Linux is highly experimental and unstable
[10:27] <Warbo> diggyz: That sounds like it should run fine on your hardware. How long have you left it? (because some people have found that it takes ages to load, but that's still a problem, just not as major as nothing coming up). I would actually suggest installing Ubuntu, to see if it works. Basically the Live CD has to work out what hardware you have, but an installation can remember
[10:27] <apokryphos> blame Microsoft
[10:27] <accumulator> trainstroker: well partially. ntfs support is very limited
[10:28] <jadaz87> vinboy you are most welcome
[10:28] <trainstroker> kk
[10:28] <scifi> shud i grant the "stop thread" runtimepermission when configuring java? pls help!
[10:28] <prgrmr> i try update my fire-fox to 1.5.0.2, and now fire-fox not working, what can i do?
[10:28] <trainstroker> can i create a shortcut to a folder buried deeep in an ntfs partition
[10:28] <accumulator> scifi: ehh yes!
[10:28] <apokryphos> trainstroker: of course
[10:28] <trainstroker> how
[10:28] <trainstroker> i tried to create a link
[10:28] <rukuartic> trainstroker: ln -s shortcut /path/to/your/long/folder
[10:28] <trainstroker> sudo?
[10:28] <apokryphos> rukuartic: other way round
[10:29] <surfdue_lappy> hello firefox tries to play videos with totem, i want it to use mplayer
[10:29] <surfdue_lappy> how do i remove totem?
[10:29] <Warbo> trainstroker: There is no reliable way of changing NTFS drives (saving, moving, etc to them) but there are partially successful methods now, based on FUSE. They will NOT destroy your drive if they fail though, which is nice
[10:29] <rukuartic> apokryphos: Thanks
[10:29] <scifi> accumulator: it says its potentially unsafe
[10:29] <mzinz> My sound works perfectly in Gnome,but won't work in KDE... What can i do?
[10:29] <apokryphos> trainstroker: no need if you're putting the shortcut in a place where your user can write to
[10:29] <rukuartic> trainstroker: Might need to if you have to be root to access the drive
[10:29] <apokryphos> mzinz: aplay some.wav. Sound output?
[10:29] <prgrmr> i try update my fire-fox to 1.5.0.2, and now fire-fox not working, what can i do?
[10:29] <accumulator> scifi: you can write to files, but not append to them
[10:29] <mzinz> where can i find a .wav sound
[10:29] <trainstroker> rok when i tried to create a short cut. the target has spaces it (My Documents)
[10:30] <apokryphos> mzinz: locate *.wav
[10:30] <scifi> accumulator: i'll choose "yes" then :)
[10:30] <apokryphos> mzinz: or go into KDE control center and go to Sound and "Test Sound"
[10:30] <diggyz> Warbo: i have waited for like 1h before i gave up :)
[10:30] <mzinz> apokryphos: wheres the control center?
[10:30] <mzinz> apokryphos: oh, kcontrol
[10:30] <apokryphos> mzinz: or systemsettings, as in the K Menu
[10:30] <Warbo> trainstroker: In a command line you can put a backslash before a character to use spaces, slashes, etc. (so "ln -s /windowsfolder/My\ Documents /home/Windows\ Documents")
[10:31] <cih997> Anyone know how play MP3 on Ubuntu Live CD ?
[10:31] <accumulator> mzinz: yeah I lost that one as well!
[10:31] <Warbo> diggyz: Oh. Well, I would reccomend an installation. If it doesn't work then you can always delete it
[10:31] <teletubbie> how do I get flash to work with epiphany
[10:31] <Newbuntu> is anyone here on konqueror?
[10:31] <accumulator> no KDE Control Center entry anywhere in the menu
[10:31] <Warbo> teletubbie: Does it work with Firefox?
[10:31] <mzinz> apokryphos: it works.
[10:31] <mzinz> apokryphos: meaning i need the mp3 package
[10:31] <prgrmr> i try update my fire-fox to 1.5.0.2, and now fire-fox not working, what can i do?
[10:32] <mzinz> apokryphos: why do i need it again even if i have it in gnome?
[10:32] <Newbuntu> firefox keeps crashing repetively for me
[10:32] <apokryphos> mzinz: are you using a different player?
[10:32] <apokryphos> mzinz: check the Kubuntu FAQ on http://kubuntu.org
[10:32] <teletubbie> Warbo, nope
[10:32] <mzinz> apokryphos: xmms.
[10:32] <teletubbie> I installed flash from apt
[10:32] <mzinz> !mp3
[10:32] <Laney> np: Grandmaster Flash - The Roof Is On Fire
[10:32] <Laney> np: Grandmaster Flash - The Roof Is On Fire
[10:32] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:32] <apokryphos> mzinz: don't use that :P
[10:32] <accumulator> prgrmr: did you add a source in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[10:32] <scifi> how do i update firefox?
[10:33] <mzinz> apokryphos: why?
[10:33] <teletubbie> !flash
[10:33] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:33] <apokryphos> Laney: ?
[10:33] <jadaz87> !tell scifi about ff1.5
[10:33] <Warbo> teletubbie: Do you know how to enable Universe and install the flashplayer-mozilla package? (someone correct me if that package name is wrong)
[10:33] <diggyz> Warbo: okey thanks for your help
[10:33] <apokryphos> mzinz: because it sucks. There are far better mp3 players
[10:33] <mzinz> apokryphos: ohh dont use xmms
[10:33] <Newbuntu> i need someone in conqueror to tell me if the see this flash site as normal .. http://www.dead.net/index2.php
[10:33] <kiko0123> Is there any Grub (bootloader) configuration application on ubuntu ?
[10:33] <mzinz> apokryphos: like what? BMPx?
[10:33] <duelboot> Laney, let it burn   lol
[10:33] <apokryphos> !players
[10:33] <ubotu> somebody said players was Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[10:33] <scifi> ty jadaz
[10:34] <jadaz87> scifi you are most welcome
[10:34] <Newbuntu> sorry that was konqueror
[10:34] <duelboot> amaroK rocks apokryphos
[10:34] <apokryphos> indeed :)
[10:34] <Warbo> Newbuntu: I heard that mozilla plugins will work in Konqueror. Is this true?
[10:34] <prgrmr> accumulator, i don't know i used https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:34] <apokryphos> they don't
[10:35] <prgrmr> i don't remember
[10:35] <Newbuntu> warbo some do, macromedia flash being one of them and java
[10:35] <nemster> somehow i suddenly have all edubuntu logos nd stuff here, how can i switch to ubuntu?
[10:35] <Newbuntu> its a bit tricky though and I can view certain pages
[10:36] <zim> here is a long shot is there a command line app that will convert m4a to mp3
[10:36] <Warbo> Newbuntu: I do like Konqueror (even though I use GNOME) but I wasn't sure how easily the general Mozilla/Firefox plugins work, which is all anybody really makes plugins for
[10:36] <rukuartic> nemster: Search for "gnome"
[10:36] <rukuartic> nemster: In Synaptic that is
[10:36] <nemster> rukuartic: ok
[10:37] <Newbuntu> they work but need serious tweaking
[10:37] <rukuartic> nemster: Just a common sense thing... try checking the wiki though. might have more detailed instructions
[10:37] <nemster> rukuartic: thanks
[10:37] <accumulator> prgrmr: there's removal instructions at the bottom of the page
[10:37] <Kaya_> Nemster > you dont goto yahoo chat do you?
[10:37] <mrazster> a mirc n00b question...how do I reg my name on irc
[10:38] <accumulator> mirc?
[10:38] <nemster> i just booted my ubuntu here on the notebook for a long time, i usually use gentoo and windows
[10:38] <duelboot> !register
[10:38] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:38] <nemster> Kaya_: nah not really
[10:38] <blindx> ./nickserv register password email
[10:38] <accumulator> MIRC??
[10:38] <mrazster> yes Mirc
[10:38] <prgrmr> accumulator, i can't see this page 
[10:38] <Kaya_> Nemster > ok np's its just i know someone who does called Mr.Nemster, thought it might be you =o)
[10:38] <mzinz> Whats a good audio player for kubuntu?
[10:38] <scifi> jadaz87: it says: cp: cannot stat `signons.txt': No such file or directory
[10:38] <scifi> , when i try to backup firefox settings
[10:38] <prgrmr> i can't use FF
[10:38] <blindx> Why are you using mirc? :\
[10:38] <Newbuntu> mozilla is very buggy for  ubuntu i find
[10:38] <Kaya_> mzinz > amarok
[10:38] <accumulator> prgrmr: ahh no browser? :)
[10:39] <prgrmr> yes :)
[10:39] <blindx> mzinz: xmms ftw
[10:39] <nemster> is there anything i have to do besides dist-upgrade to get the most bleeding edge ubuntu here?
[10:39] <mrazster> blindx: thnx m8
[10:39] <Warbo> mzinz: Amarok has all the features you could want, but takes loads of memory
[10:39] <mzinz> Kaya_: amarok seems bulky, whats so good about it?
[10:39] <Kaya_> just a nice UI imo
[10:39] <ompaul> !register
[10:39] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:39] <mrazster> ff
[10:39] <nemster> i have compiz and xgl running here too, tho its a intel 855 centrino chip it runs quite nice
[10:40] <duelboot> ompaul, copycat :)
[10:40] <mrazster> dd
[10:40] <accumulator> !porn
[10:40] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, accumulator
[10:40] <Warbo> mzinz: Amarok includes loads of plying enginges and output plugins, it has built in AidioScrobbler and last.fm, Amazon covers, Wikipedia info on bands, Musicbrainz ID3 info, etc.
[10:40] <ompaul> duelboot, so that is true
[10:40] <mrazster> d
[10:40] <ompaul> !CoC
[10:40] <ubotu> coc is probably the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[10:40] <teletubbie> My system use nvsound kernel module. it uses OSS. how do I configure software mixing with oss?
[10:40] <ompaul> accumulator, ^^
[10:40] <trainstroker> ok iopen my desktop folder in therminal. i type this: sudo ln -s /media/sda2/documents\ and\ settings/trainstroker/my\ documents/my\ music
[10:40] <trainstroker> . and i get a broken shortcut
[10:40] <teletubbie> how do I know if my card support hardware mixing??
[10:40] <accumulator> thanks
[10:41] <mzinz> Warbo: oh wow
[10:41] <Warbo> mzinz: Is that sarcastic, or genuine?
[10:41] <mzinz> Warbo: no i meant it
[10:41] <Warbo> mzinz: :)
[10:41] <Blissex> teletubbie: odds are it does not unless it is a SB or an Audigy
[10:41] <nemster> grrr.
[10:41] <teletubbie> so how do I setup software mixing with oss?
[10:42] <trainstroker> . and i get a broken shortcut
[10:42] <trainstroker> . and i get a broken shortcut
[10:42] <trainstroker> ok iopen my desktop folder in therminal. i type this: sudo ln -s /media/sda2/documents\ and\ settings/trainstroker/my\ documents/my\ music
[10:42] <trainstroker> anyone?
[10:42] <zim> i am trying to convert loads of m4as tp mp3 is ther ea command line tool for the job ???
[10:42] <nemster> i tried to switch the keybord layout and now the window manager style changed somehow and not the layout
[10:42] <scifi>  when i try to backup firefox settings
[10:42] <Warbo> trainstroker: Linux is case sensitive (Documents\ and\ Settings, etc.)
[10:42] <accumulator> zim: transcode or sox
[10:42] <jadaz87> does anyone know where a user's desktop settings are kept?
[10:42] <trainstroker> o okj
[10:43] <teletubbie> !oss
[10:43] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, teletubbie
[10:43] <zim> what is the command
[10:43] <XamDM> jadaz87, which desktop ?? gnome xfce ???
[10:43] <jadaz87> gnome
[10:43] <jadaz87> xamdm^^
[10:43] <Warbo> jadaz87: In your home dir (show hidden files) General settings applied to all users by default are in /etc/skel
[10:43] <rob138> hi, just yesterday my gnome crashed.  all i can tell about how it happened is that i tried to change the theme, and then my date/time and other panel applets crashed, then when i restarted gdm, it wouldn't load after the login screen and splash, the panels would just keep loading and failing and my keyboard wouldn't allow me to switch to tty1 or anything...
[10:43] <XamDM> jadaz87, somewhere in .gnome .gnome2 i think
[10:43] <jadaz87> Warbo which folder?
[10:44] <teletubbie> !esd
[10:44] <ompaul> trainstroker, please can you keep all your idea, or comments to one single line, multiple lines are bad for the channel and make it hard to follow your request, thanks
[10:44] <JayGuerette> I'm a long time user of Redhat, from 5.x through to current Fedora. The one thing I hate, is the
[10:44] <teletubbie> how do I setup esd to use oss?
[10:44] <Warbo> jadaz87: They are generally named due to the program. .gnome2 keeps GNOME settings, but it is easier to edit them with Apps>System Tools>Configuration Editor
[10:44] <scifi> i get cp: cannot stat `signons.txt': No such file or directory when trying to backup firefox settings
[10:44] <jadaz87> WArbo xamdm thanks
[10:45] <XamDM> jadaz87, np
[10:45] <dani_> Alguien habla espaol??????
[10:45] <ompaul> !es
[10:45] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:45] <JayGuerette> I'm a long time user of Redhat, from 5.x through to current Fedora. The one thing I hate, is the monolitic upgrades. Having to take the box down and upgrade from CDs. Is it true of Debian derivatives that you can endlessly upgrade, only rebooting for kernel updates?
[10:47] <Warbo> JayGuerette: More so with regular Debian than Ubuntu, but only because Debian can use names like "stable" and "testing" which always point to latest version, on Ubuntu you have to change your package sources to point to latest version
[10:48] <teletubbie> !sound
[10:48] <ubotu> somebody said sound was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[10:48] <ompaul> JayGuerette, yes, as long as you stick to the sources that come with the machine, you can use things like debfoster to manage where you started with a machine, as warbo says but the change is not that big as you change one word on many lines in a single config file (hoary - breezy) was one case :)
[10:48] <JayGuerette> Hmmm
[10:49] <scifi> i get cp: cannot stat `signons.txt': No such file or directory when trying to backup firefox setting  ne ideas guys?
[10:49] <UKMatt> Does anybody here run Wine?
[10:49] <jadaz87> WArbo lets say i configure gnome right? what folder whould i drop into /etc/skel
[10:50] <rukuartic> UKMatt: I do
[10:50] <JayGuerette> Thanks! I'll check out debfoster.
[10:50] <hartz> scifi, That means the file is nout found.  I notice that there is no path to the file specified, so some process (the one reporting the error) is looking for the file in it's working directory
[10:50] <ompaul> scifi, /home/username/.mozilla/firefox/other-funny-name.default/signons.txt
[10:50] <teletubbie> can't you install Limewire through apt?
[10:51] <splatta> jadaz87: you don't put anything in /etc/skell, /etc/skell contains examples
[10:51] <jadaz87> splatta i am customizing a livecd
[10:51] <bimberi> !limewire
[10:51] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[10:51] <splatta> jadaz87 : ahh nm
[10:51] <JayGuerette> debfoster deprecated in favor of aptitude
[10:51] <UKMatt> !java
[10:51] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:52] <FlannelKing> JayGuerette: aptitude has debfoster capabilities?
[10:52] <teletubbie> !java
[10:52] <ompaul> JayGuerette, now that makes me get frustrated
[10:52] <JayGuerette> debfoster site says use aptitude
[10:53] <ompaul> JayGuerette,  sudo apt-get install debfoster
[10:53] <Blissex> FlannelKing: it is one of the examples in the Aptitude docs...
[10:53] <jadacyrus> Does anyone know if Ubuntu breezy or dapper will run on a Dell poweredge 2500, just wondering if it has support for the RAID controller / scsi drives
[10:53] <ompaul> JayGuerette,  use what your distro has :-)
[10:53] <FlannelKing> Blissex: I've never used aptitude
[10:53] <ompaul> !tell JayGuerette about repos
[10:53] <jlhenry>  I got this error: http://squid-cache.bestwebcover.com/mail-archive/squid-users/200402/0221.html
[10:53] <rukuartic> jadacyrus: Tried looking in the wiki?
[10:53] <jlhenry> I mean that i have TCP_MISS/403 error code that I want to replace with TCP_DENIED/403
[10:53] <jlhenry> It says that: "Or you could filter TCP_MISS/403 with no hierarchy code and replace them  with TCP_DENIED. "
[10:53] <jlhenry> but i do not have a clue how I can do that
[10:53] <jlhenry> any idea
[10:54] <jlhenry> ?
[10:54] <jadacyrus> rukuartic: link?
[10:54] <zF> What's the package I need to play flash in firefox?
[10:54] <scifi> hartz/ompaul: i liked in there cant see it ompaul, not even sure what im meant to do with it once i find it, the signons.txt was included in part of the command to backup firefox settings
[10:54] <rukuartic> jadacyrus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:54] <scifi> looked*
[10:54] <rukuartic> jadacyrus: New here?
[10:54] <jadacyrus> thx
[10:54] <JayGuerette> lol, no, I'm a Fedora user thinking of switching to a Debian flavor to do slipstream upgrades intead of monolithic ones
[10:54] <JayGuerette> I hate taking my box down
[10:55] <zim> help to the guys that helped me before i closed the wrong box now can see that command you gave me to remove m4as pls scroll up and give it back ty
[10:55] <FlannelKing> zim: how long ago was it?
[10:55] <trainstroker> ok iopen my desktop folder in therminal. i type this: sudo ln -s /media/sda2/documents\ and\ settings/trainstroker/my\ documents/my\ music . can someone help
[10:55] <zim> 5 - 10 min
[10:56] <zim> i posed the on i need with the ---->
[10:56] <rhalff> anyone happen to have a samsung 930BF ?
[10:56] <ompaul> accumulator zim: for i in `find / -name *m4a`; do rm -i $i; done that one?
[10:56] <zim> ty
[10:57] <splatta> trainstroker: case sensetive?
[10:57] <jadaz87> hello i am having a problem where when i use sudo in the terminal it just hangs
[10:57] <zim> close buy i can work it out from there
[10:57] <scifi> pls help, i dont feel im getting anywhere with this firefox update :P
[10:57] <trainstroker> splatta: yeah
[10:58] <splatta> trainstroker: is your folder documents and settings or Documents and Settings ?
[10:58] <trainstroker> the latter
[10:58] <splatta> trainstroker: and your command you listed above is using lowr case letters, it won't work
[10:59] <trainstroker> i changed it
[10:59] <trainstroker> i copied and pasted its location
[10:59] <trainstroker> hold on im trying something
[10:59] <trainstroker> i think i know the problem
[10:59] <ompaul> !enter
[10:59] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[10:59] <ompaul> trainstroker, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[10:59] <trainstroker> ?
[11:00] <trainstroker> oh
[11:00] <trainstroker> i get it
[11:00] <jadaz87> hello i am having a problem where when i use sudo in the terminal it just hangs with a blinking cursor
[11:00] <trainstroker> sorry. i am going to have a go at this
[11:00] <ompaul> trainstroker, keep all your words on the one line, and use a command to keep the ideas together, thanks
[11:00] <rukuartic> jadaz87: what command line are you asking?
[11:00] <rukuartic> sending that is
[11:00] <ompaul> s/command/comma
[11:00] <simonpca> a++, je vais manger | i'm gonna eat something, bye
[11:00] <jadaz87> rukuartic sudo perl /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
[11:01] <rukuartic> jadaz87: You have to type in your password (and while you are typing, nothing shows up to hide your pw...)
[11:01] <zF> What's the package I need to play flash in firefox?
[11:01] <jadaz87> rukuartic no it does not even get to the pasword entry
[11:01] <scifi> ;*(
[11:01] <DBO> jadaz87, try typing "sudo echo "test""
[11:01] <ompaul> scifi, are you trying to run 1.5?
[11:01] <DBO> jadaz87, does it echo test?
[11:02] <ScreaminIke> hi. where can i find a working installation of lilypond? the one in the repositories is messed up.
[11:02] <jadaz87> DBO nope
[11:02] <scifi> ompaul: im trying to update to 1.5, but wiki says run this backup command 1st
[11:02] <rukuartic> jadaz87: Are you in the sudoers file?
[11:02] <jadaz87> rukuartic yes
[11:02] <DBO> jadaz87, you are the second person to have this issue that I am aware of... Im really sad to say that the last guy did not get it fixed either...
[11:02] <ompaul> scifi, so your not doing it from where you should, I would imagine
[11:02] <VR_> hah, "the edgy eft"
[11:02] <VR_> what a name
[11:02] <teletubbie> !science
[11:02] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, teletubbie
[11:03] <teletubbie> !scientific
[11:03] <ubotu> teletubbie: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:03] <teletubbie> !math
[11:03] <ubotu> teletubbie: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:03] <jadaz87> rukuartic it was working before i restarted my computer
[11:03] <erUSUL> ScreaminIke: if it's messed up you should fire up a bug report in malone look up here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReportingBugs
[11:03] <jadaz87> !tell teletubbie about msg the bot
[11:03] <ScreaminIke> where can i find a working installation of lilypond? the one in the repositories is messed up.
[11:03] <jadacyrus> Does ubuntu have the best driver support at this poiint out of all other distributions?
[11:03] <DBO> jadaz87, have you by chance set a password on your root account?
[11:03] <DBO> jadacyrus, hard to say, it has good hardware support though
[11:03] <jadaz87> DBO no even if i did it should have come up with the poassword entry
[11:04] <DBO> jadaz87, I know, Im trying to think of ways to rectify the situation
[11:04] <DBO> jadaz87, as it stands you effectively do not have root access
[11:04] <rukuartic> DBO perhaps...
[11:04] <rukuartic> jadaz87: sudo -i?
[11:04] <erUSUL> !tell ScreaminIke about repeat
[11:04] <rukuartic> jadaz87: gksudo?
[11:04] <ompaul> scifi, type pwd and tell me the result thanks
[11:05] <jadaz87> rukuartic nope to both
[11:05] <ScreaminIke> sorry, erUSUL
[11:07] <Rawplayer> re
[11:07] <DBO> jadaz87, can you view the sudoers file?
[11:08] <jadaz87> DBO where is it
[11:08] <DBO> /etc/sudoers
[11:08] <DBO> I dont think you will be able to...
[11:08] <jadaz87> DBO nope
[11:08] <DBO> jadaz87, have you a live boot CD?
[11:08] <jadaz87> DBO nope
[11:09] <DBO> jadaz87, get one
[11:09] <DBO> you need it
[11:09] <Mathman> haha, man, I love penny arcade today
[11:09] <mrazster> guys...anyone of you installed quake-forge/quake II  ..??
[11:09] <jadaz87> DBO i cannot get on the internet without wireless
[11:10] <Mathman> mrazster: long time ago, on debian I'm thinking.  why?
[11:10] <jadaz87> DBO i whould have to ndiswrapper but you have to get online with that lol
[11:11] <DBO> bit of a catch22
[11:11] <mrazster> well....I tried yestrday...just for the sake of it...but when compiling or whatever...I got an error at the end about an XML parser or something....
[11:11] <DBO> so erm... color me stupid... but how are you online right now?
[11:11] <jadaz87> DBO wireless
[11:11] <rukuartic> DBO, he's saying he wouldn't be able to access net with live CD
[11:11] <DBO> ooooh
[11:11] <mrazster> shouldn't it be done as usual with ./configure, make, make install
[11:11] <DBO> you dont need wireless with the liveboot
[11:12] <rukuartic> He would for instructions
[11:12] <Mathman> mrazster: I'd be more partial to apt-get foo.  but yeah, that would work too.
[11:12] <jadaz87> DBO what whoudl that do? i cannot access the harddrive from live cd
[11:12] <DBO> jadaz87, you can mount the hard drive with the live CD
[11:12] <prgrmr> can i install automatix on amd64?
[11:12] <DBO> NO
[11:12] <DBO> Never use automatix
[11:12] <DBO> it breaks systems
[11:12] <prgrmr> :(
[11:12] <cge> prgrmr, DBO is correct.
[11:13] <DBO> and harsh
[11:13] <jadaz87> !automatrix
[11:13] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jadaz87
[11:13] <Xardas_busy> hi
[11:13] <homedawg> i cant remove gdm while trying to remaster dapper flight 6, any ideas?
[11:13] <DBO> !automatix
[11:13] <ubotu> well, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[11:13] <Mathman> mrazster: if it's telling you that when you're trying to build it from source, then yeah, install xml whatever the heck it's looking for
[11:13] <Xardas_busy> does here anyone use lilypond?
[11:13] <say2sky> dapper beta available now
[11:13] <mrazster> yeah it in the repos...tried installing with synaptic...but when everything done and i type quale2 in terminal...it says something about a missing file in baseq2
[11:13] <McGuyverOfBeer> yep populating to mirrors :)
[11:13] <cge> say2sky, !?
[11:13] <eugman> Anyone here use gnome-mud?
[11:13] <homedawg> this is what i get when i try to remove it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12563
[11:14] <tanath> anyone know a fast/easy way to go through each file in a directory and replace a string of characters if it occurs in the filename?
[11:14] <cge> tanath, mmv maybe?
[11:14] <rukuartic> tanath: bash scripting :P
[11:14] <DBO> jadaz87, you would need to verify that the admin group is in /etc/sudoers and that your user is in the proper group... jadaz87, failing that changing your userID to 0 in /etc/passwd would effectively give you root access and give you a chance to fix things
[11:14] <blindx> how do you do ascii text in ubuntu?
[11:14] <mrazster> oh well...no biggie....just thought that mabye anyone tried it recently...and had an idea
[11:14] <squiddle> /var/run/screen/S-squiddle/5417.desktop: No such file or directory
[11:14] <jadaz87> homedawg!!!! :-)
[11:14] <rukuartic> blindx: ?
[11:14] <squiddle> what is wrong?
[11:15] <Warbo> tanath: Maybe if you know a little perl or Python, if not then possibly bash
[11:15] <blindx>  for example
[11:15] <blindx> alt codes on a windows box
[11:15] <jadaz87> DBO let me see if a restart will do anything
[11:15] <jadaz87> DBO that works sometimes
[11:15] <rukuartic> blindx: press alt, type numbers?
[11:15] <tanath> what would i stick in a script?
[11:15] <DBO> jadaz87, okie dokie
[11:15] <blindx> it doesn't work?
[11:15] <rukuartic> blindx: I jsut get a box...  I suppose?
[11:15] <Warbo> blindx: It depends on the program. OOo should be the easiest, then you could copy/pate it wherever it's needed
[11:15] <humbolt> I have trouble with my WLAN
[11:15] <cge> DBO, if a password is never showing up, is that the problem? I seem to recall that a password entry does show up even if you don't have permission.
[11:15] <blindx> OOo ??
[11:16] <Warbo> blindx: OpenOffice.org
[11:16] <blindx> ohh.
[11:16] <DBO> cge, I know... which is why I had the "and failing that" aspect to give him root permissions
[11:16] <hussam> Is any of the daily dapper cds working? ( not stability but installer-wise)
[11:16] <humbolt> I get disconnected without getting disconnected!
[11:16] <cge> DBO, ah, I see.
[11:16] <homedawg> while trying to remaster dapper flight 6 i've come across not being able to remove gdm. this is what i get when i try to remove it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12563
[11:16] <humbolt> My downloads and skype connections are dropped but NetworkManager does not show anything happen.
[11:17] <prgrmr> can i install easy ubuntu on amd64?
[11:17] <DBO> cge, hacking a system with local access is just too easy =P  /etc/passwd really should be encrypted in some form...
[11:17] <cge> DBO, won't help. The whole partition would have to be encrypted
[11:18] <beerockxs> whenever i run gedit with sudo, i get lots of messages similar to this: "Audio device open for 8.192Khz, mono, 8bit failed
[11:18] <beerockxs> Trying 8Khz, 8bit mono.
[11:18] <beerockxs> Sound device inadequate for Esound. Fatal.
[11:18] <beerockxs> " in the console
[11:18] <beerockxs> non-sudo, I don't get them.
[11:18] <beerockxs> what might cause that?
[11:18] <DBO> cge, meh, Im not concerned with people comprimising the box locally, that is going to happen.  I am concerned with people compromising the box locally in a way that is hard to detect and doesnt effect the system performance
[11:18] <bungle> how do i preview mp3s in nautilus?
[11:18] <bungle> doesnt seem to work :-(
[11:19] <DBO> bungle, do mp3's work for you at all?
[11:19] <bungle> yes D8
[11:19] <erUSUL> DBO: that's why /etc/shadow exist in the first place
[11:19] <ciubi> hello people
[11:19] <Warbo> hello
[11:19] <jadaz87>  DBO it works now :-\
[11:19] <DBO> erUSUL, that only protects from gaining the hash, it doesnt prevent live boots from writing to it
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[11:19] <DBO> jadaz87, cool
[11:19] <ciubi> i have a problem
[11:19] <jadaz87> DBO here is the contents of the sudoes
[11:19] <ciubi> i have a problem
[11:19] <jadaz87> !ops
[11:19] <ciubi> i have a problem
[11:19] <ciubi> i have a problem
[11:19] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[11:20] <McGuyverOfBeer> good god...
[11:20] <ciubi> how whant's to help me
[11:20] <FlannelKing> good afternoon lilo.
[11:20] <dekela> ciubi: Whats the problem?
[11:20] <ompaul> jadaz87, that one is known no worries
[11:20] <bungle> DBO, yes can play then and i have set preview
[11:20] <DBO> bungle, you got me
[11:20] <Warbo> ciubi: Please don't post multiple times, just put your question (if it is long use pastebin)
[11:20] <bungle> ok ta anyway
[11:20] <jadaz87> ompaul what do you mean?
[11:20] <cge> DBO, oh, I see. If it were encrypted, I suppose that the attacker wouldn't be able to keep the same passwords for everyone. But even then, the encryption would have to be such that the user had to enter some passphrase while booting, or an attacker could gain root and then decrypt it.
[11:20] <DBO> ompaul, does a reboot always fix it?
[11:20] <ompaul> lilo just had a visit: c-68-62-247-89.hsd1.tn.comcast.net
[11:21] <nalioth> jadaz87: we have a new function for Ubugtu
[11:21] <ompaul> DBO, ?
[11:21] <DBO> cge, you are correct, such a scheme would be... very complex
[11:21] <ciubi> k
[11:21] <ciubi> srry
[11:21] <ciubi> Now
[11:21] <nalioth> ompaul: that is not necessary, lilo and HedgeMage are in the !ops trigger
[11:21] <DBO> ompaul, the sudo not giving a password prompt
[11:21] <bungle> how do i preview mp3s in nautilus?
[11:21] <jadaz87> nalioth oh ok that does it do?
[11:21] <Warbo> ciubi: That better be a joke
[11:21] <ompaul> true
[11:21] <erUSUL> DBO: only root can write /etc/passwd
[11:21] <SteveA> what's the best instant messaging app to use with dapper?
[11:21] <CNAP> anybody know where i can find the recycle bin?
[11:21] <CNAP> stevea, GAIM
[11:21] <kiko0123> can ubuntu write in NTFS or only read ?
[11:22] <DBO> erUSUL, give me local access to your box and a live boot and I will show you otherwise =P
[11:22] <nalioth> jadaz87: didn't you see what Ubugtu did?
[11:22] <Warbo> CNAP: home/.Trash
[11:22] <FlannelKing> kiko0123: just read
[11:22] <CNAP> warbo, gracias
[11:22] <homedawg> while trying to remaster dapper flight 6 i've come across not being able to remove gdm. this is what i get when i try to remove it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12563
[11:22] <ltR20> hey i got a problem
[11:22] <kiko0123> ohk...
[11:22] <FlannelKing> kiko0123: all linux can just read, not just ubuntu.
[11:22] <ltR20> everytime i download the nvidia drivers
[11:22] <ciubi> when i whant to enter in a partition he don't let me see because he say i dont have permision to open
[11:22] <mohadib> does breezy stable not have ncftp in apt?
[11:22] <kiko0123> FlannelKing, there is no way to write ?
[11:22] <ltR20> it says that it cant startx because it's the wrong version
[11:22] <Warbo> CNAP: If you deleted something on another drive (like an iPod) then it will be iPod/.Trash-username
[11:22] <SteveA> you can put one of hte NTFS filesystems into a write mode
[11:22] <ciubi> what can i do
[11:22] <ompaul> DBO, don't know to be honest
[11:22] <ltR20> and i have to re-configure my xonf
[11:22] <FlannelKing> kiko0123: not one that's stable.  It's because we're having to reverse engineer the ntfs filesystem.
[11:22] <jadaz87> DBO # /etc/sudoers
[11:22] <jadaz87> #
[11:22] <jadaz87> # This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root.
[11:22] <jadaz87> #
[11:22] <jadaz87> # See the man page for details on how to write a sudoers file.
[11:22] <jadaz87> #
[11:22] <shinu> do i have to do anything else to install the fonts or just copy them into /var/lib/defoma/gs.d/dirs/fonts?
[11:22] <jadaz87> # Host alias specification
[11:22] <jadaz87> # User alias specification
[11:22] <DBO> !paste
[11:22] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[11:22] <jadaz87> # Cmnd alias specification
[11:22] <teletubbie> why can't totrem play mp3 files?>
[11:22] <erUSUL> DBO: i'm afraid i do not know what you mean by "live boot"
[11:22] <jadaz87> # Defaults
[11:22] <bungle> !nautilus
[11:22] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bungle
[11:22] <jadaz87> Defaults	!lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn
[11:22] <teletubbie> totem*
[11:22] <jadaz87> # User privilege specification
[11:22] <kiko0123> ok thanx FlannelKing ?
[11:22] <jadaz87> root	ALL=(ALL) ALL
[11:23] <SteveA> it doesn't work if you don't have a cleanly unmounted ntfs volume
[11:23] <jadaz87> # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges
[11:23] <kiko0123> *!
[11:23] <FlannelKing> sigh.  this is going to take a while.
[11:23] <jadaz87> %admin	ALL=(ALL) ALL
[11:23] <ltR20> !op
[11:23] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ltR20
[11:23] <erUSUL> jadaz87: please do not paste here
[11:23] <jadaz87> erUSUL it was an accident look http://pastebin.com/670159
[11:23] <SteveA> and also, when it does work, you can only do certain things, like work with preexisting files
[11:23] <DBO> erUSUL, a operating system that runs off of the CD is called a Live Boot
[11:23] <cge> homedawg, replace /etc/init.d/gdm with a null shell script?
[11:23] <jadaz87> erUSUL that is the contents from what i pasted into the pastebin lmao
[11:23] <ciubi> !0x
[11:23] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ciubi
[11:23] <homedawg> what should i place in there?
[11:23] <ciubi> 10x
[11:23] <DBO> erUSUL, it will effectively bypass all security on the local hard drives
[11:24] <ompaul> DBO, okay I read back through what was there
[11:24] <SteveA> thanks CNAP
[11:24] <dekela> Anyone knows of a better archive manager for gnome rather then the default one? Something like winrar
[11:24] <jadaz87> DBO http://pastebin.com/670159
[11:24] <dracflamloc> hi
[11:24] <DBO> ompaul, yeah, appearantly a reboot fixed him, I want to know if thats been put as a bug
[11:24] <DBO> jadaz87, its properly configured, but you are working now... go figure
[11:24] <erUSUL> DBO: you mean physical access? in that scenario there is nothing you can do to prevent access even encription will not work.
[11:24] <dracflamloc> can someone please tell me how to setup dual monitors on an ati x800?
[11:24] <rukuartic> !dualmonitors
[11:24] <Mathman> dekela: whats wrong with fileroller?  anyway, who says it has to be for gnome?  ark is pretty good.
[11:24] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rukuartic
[11:25] <rukuartic> dracflamloc: tried the wiki?
[11:25] <Warbo> dekela: File-roller is just a front-end to command line stuff. The only decent alternative I know of is KDE's Ark which works in GNOME
[11:25] <cge> erUSUL, encryption with a user-supplied passphrase would work.
[11:25] <dracflamloc> yes
[11:25] <DBO> erUSUL, encryption would provide an additional layer of protection
[11:25] <homedawg> cge: what should i change that script to?
[11:25] <dracflamloc> theres only one for nvidia. the one for radeon doesnt work
[11:25] <dekela> Warbo: Mathman thanks
[11:25] <jadaz87> erUSUL sorry about the paste the Ctrl+V accidentally pasted the content that i had put in the pastebin link http://pastebin.com/670159
[11:25] <cge> homedawg, Something like just the line "#!/bin/sh".
[11:25] <erUSUL> cge: with phisical access i can wipe out all your data. end of the history
[11:26] <homedawg> ok
[11:26] <simonpca> plop
[11:26] <DBO> erUSUL, thats ok, you still didnt compromise anything, just wiped it... give me 10 minutes with my backups
[11:26] <cge> erUSUL, yes, but that's what backups are for. You wouldn't be able to comprimise data integrity.
[11:26] <ompaul> DBO, 1) sudo sets a ticket that ticket has a time attached to it (15 minutes if I recall) 2) that system can be revoked , and 3) someone found a bug where a modem a modem was online, the machine powered off and the machine powered on again (rather fast) the modem would dial out during that 15, it is said not to happen with dapper but that is another story
[11:26] <homedawg> wow, your the greatest, worked like a charm cge. :)
[11:26] <rukuartic> out of interest, what would be the effect of a new user (brand new, so no privelages) typing "rm -rf /] 
[11:26] <beerockxs> whenever i run gedit with sudo, i get lots of messages similar to this: "Audio device open for 8.192Khz, mono, 8bit failed"
[11:26] <ltR20> how do i find out what kernal version  i have
[11:26] <beerockxs> non-sudo, I don't get them.
[11:26] <beerockxs> what might cause that?
[11:26] <patrick522> how do i set the document root for apache
[11:26] <erUSUL> jadaz87: what is the problem?
[11:27] <FlannelKing> patrick522: it's in your virtual hosts
[11:27] <DBO> ompaul, ah, I see now
[11:27] <Warbo> erUSUL and DBO: Have you seen the recent Slashdot article on IBM's new system where EVERYTHING is encrypted, right up to the monitor output
[11:27] <rukuartic> patrick522: /etc/apache.conf maybe?
[11:27] <cge> homedawg, not sure why it is trying to reload gdm while it is being purged.
[11:27] <homedawg> yeah, its really wierd
[11:27] <DBO> Warbo, sounds like TCPM...
[11:27] <DBO> Warbo, erUSUL, and me, we are offtopic sadly, to offtopic channel we must go =)
[11:28] <Warbo> DBO: I just wanted to add a few facts to chuck around, I'm not going to get imvolved :)
[11:28] <ltR20> how do i find out what kernal version  i have
[11:28] <DBO> Warbo, ok, I wasnt complaining, we all get on tangents here
[11:29] <DBO> ltR20, "uname -r"
[11:29] <Warbo> ItR20: "uname -r"
[11:29] <DBO> jinx
[11:29] <Warbo> lol
[11:29] <ltR20> will it work with http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8756.html
[11:29] <ltR20> i have 2.6.12-10
[11:29] <DBO> ltR20, those drives work just fine =)
[11:29] <DBO> drivers*
[11:30] <DBO> I use them myself
[11:30] <erUSUL> !tell ltR20 about nvidia
[11:30] <jadaz87> hello guys i have a question about vmware
[11:30] <FliesLikeALap> whenever I install a 686  kernel on a computer I have here, the keyboard and mouse stop working, 386 kernels are fine.  any insights ?
[11:30] <FliesLikeALap> on dapper or 5.10
[11:30] <jadaz87> everytime i reboot the computer i have to reconfigure it i guess the vmmon kernel module is not being loaded on boot up
[11:31] <jadaz87> and another question is everytime i try to shutdown or restart when it gets to shutdown power management
[11:31] <jadaz87> it says that there is no BIOS and then hangs after trying to shutdown Firestarter
[11:31] <DBO> alright, im out for a bit
[11:31] <DBO> laters
[11:31] <Warbo> jadaz87: I had the free player (just because I could) but I found it too disruptive with my boot up (especially networking) so I removed it
[11:31] <bungle> how do i preview mp3s in nautilus?
[11:32] <nubuntu> Every ?%&# time I reboot ubuntu I have to stop in the boot manager and write "Linux video=ofonly". Or else I will get no screen picture. How can I append the video=... thing to avoid this?
[11:32] <Warbo> bungle: Apps>System Tools>Configuration Editor, Nautilus, Preferences
[11:32] <rukuartic> nubuntu: you mean, when selecting an image to boot from?
[11:32] <erUSUL> nubuntu: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:32] <Warbo> nubuntu: Add it to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:32] <bungle> done that Warbo doesnt work :-(
[11:33] <rukuartic> What they said
[11:33] <Warbo> bungle: Oh, do you have MP3 support in Gstreamer?
[11:33] <bungle> yes can play them no problems Warbo
[11:33] <erUSUL> !tell bungle about mp3
[11:33] <Mathman> nubuntu: try ubuntu-ppc or whatever
[11:33] <Aeudian> where is the folder that containts the gnome login screens located
[11:33] <jadaz87> everytime i try to shutdown or restart when it gets to shutdown power management it says that there is no BIOS and then hangs after trying to shutdown Firestarter
[11:33] <Warbo> bungle: Are you sure it is Gstreamer? Do you have Totem-Gstreamer installed not totem-xine and MP3s work in it?
[11:34] <nubuntu> ok
[11:34] <Warbo> Aeudian: I think /usr/share/gdm
[11:34] <bungle> yes Warbo
[11:34] <cih997> Is anyone know how can I burn CDs on Ubuntu? Is it possible?
[11:35] <scifi> ompaul: i had to go for a few minutes and i cant see ur last response about my firefox update
[11:35] <Warbo> bungle: Hmmmm... Well I found it happened automatically when I clicked on an MP3 from Newgrounds, I had to wait for it to stop before I disabled it completely
[11:35] <jadaz87> cih997 you can use k3b
[11:35] <scifi> o no he left
[11:35] <beerockxs> cih997, you can also use nautilus, if you just want to burn some data
[11:35] <Warbo> cih997: There are a few ways. Just dump your CDR in the drive and see what happens :)
[11:36] <cih997> :P
[11:36] <bungle> not having any luck with it Warbo not to worry
[11:36] <Aeudian> Warbo: thanks
[11:36] <Zarephath> Yeah..not if you want a multi-session disk though...nautlius won't do that
[11:36] <cih997> i'm using Live CD...
[11:36] <Warbo> bungle: Well, if I had my way then sound previews not working would be a major feature enchancement for Nautilus :)
[11:36] <beerockxs> then just use nautilus to burn data to a cd
[11:37] <bungle> same here Warbo
[11:37] <Warbo> cih997: Is your LiveCD in a different drive to your CD Writer?
[11:37] <cih997> no ;)
[11:37] <scifi> does x-chat clear ur chat sessions from a few minutes ago because i cant seem to scroll up to conversations i had earlier ^^
[11:37] <Warbo> cih997: Well you can't eject the CD while it is running, other than that you would need a lot of RAM
[11:37] <FlannelKing> scifi: it has a buffer size, and you can change the buffer sze
[11:38] <scifi> flannelking: so once its gone i cant read it?
[11:38] <FliesLikeALap> whenever I install a 686  kernel on a computer I have here, the keyboard and mouse stop working, 386 kernels are fine.  This happens on both 5.10 and dapper, any insights ?
[11:39] <cih997> Warbo: I'm going to install Ubuntu on my disk so i'll try nautilus
[11:39] <trainstroker> Can i change my permissions on an NTFS partition. its windows
[11:39] <FliesLikeALap> !tell trainstroker about ntfs
[11:39] <Warbo> cih997: I use Nautilus for all of my CD writing. Even CD images (.iso) have a "Write To Disc" option when you right click them
[11:40] <FlannelKing> scifi: unless you've logged it.  right.
[11:40] <Warbo> trainstroker: As in permission of the disk, or permission of the files? NTFS only has read/write AFAIK
[11:40] <Karisson> anyone know where i can find a list of ubuntu drivers for PCMCIA wireless cards?
[11:40] <cih997> Warbo: that's great :)
[11:41] <trainstroker> warbo: i dunno. when i try to access the partiotion it says that i dont have permission to view the files
[11:41] <FlannelKing> FliesLikeALap: file a bug, or check bugzilla, etc.  Might want to try it with dapper, if it doesn't fix it, you'll definately want to file that as a bug.
[11:41] <FlannelKing> erm, we use launchpad, eh?
[11:41] <jadaz87> hello i was wondering where the default backgrounds are stored?
[11:41] <FliesLikeALap> FlannelKing read my message, I had the same problem with dapper ;)_
[11:41] <rukuartic> !tell karisson about ndiswrapper
[11:41] <FlannelKing> FliesLikeALap: did you file a bug report?
[11:42] <Karisson> rukuartic: already tried it
[11:42] <FliesLikeALap> FlannelKing not yet, I figured I'd ask here first rather than file a bug for something which may be fixable
[11:42] <jadaz87> !tell Karisson about wireless
[11:42] <rukuartic> Karisson: If you go, there's a link to a list of supported hardware and where to find drivers
[11:42] <Warbo> trainstroker: That would be permission for the drive. I thought you meant of the files, as I don't think that you can have owners, groups read permissions (turned off) or execute permissions for files on NTFS partitions
[11:42] <Aeudian> whats the best usnet binary downloader with nzb support?
[11:42] <Karisson> okay, thanks
[11:42] <scifi> flannelking:  where do i increase buffer size?
[11:42] <FliesLikeALap> Warbo that is correct (not being able to have permissions on NTFS)
[11:42] <FlannelKing> FliesLikeALap: eh, if it' just changing the kernel, then I cant see why anything else would need to be changed so you can use keyboard/mouse.  file a bug.
[11:43] <FliesLikeALap> fair enough, will do
[11:43] <FliesLikeALap> whats the URL to the launchpad site?
[11:43] <trainstroker> can i maybe view that partion with sudo?
[11:43] <jadaz87> hello i was wondering where the default backgrounds are stored?
[11:43] <FlannelKing> !bugs
[11:43] <FlannelKing> !bugreport
[11:43] <ubotu> FlannelKing: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:43] <Warbo> trainstroker: You could, but sorting out your automatic mount options (/etc/fstab) would be a more permanent solution
[11:43] <jadaz87> i was also wondering what the command to update all packages was?
[11:44] <FlannelKing> scifi: I don't know, I haven't used xchat... in a good while.  look for a settings/options menu option
[11:44] <FliesLikeALap> jadaz87  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:44] <beerockxs> jadaz87, /usr/share/backgrounds for the default ones
[11:44] <Warbo> jadaz87: sudo apt-get upgrade, if you use dist-upgrade it will mess around with installing and removing packages to make the latest ones work (like if Firefox suddenly needed Epiphany to be removed, although that's a stupid example)
[11:44] <beerockxs> jadaz87, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:45] <ltR20> everytime i install the nvidia drivers i cant boot in X
[11:45] <Zarephath> jadaz87: Some are /usr/share/wallpapers
[11:45] <ltR20> how can i find the logfile to show you guys
[11:45] <beerockxs> !nvidia
[11:45] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:45] <ltR20> i always have to reconfigure the x
[11:45] <beerockxs> ltR20, are you following that howto?
[11:45] <Zarephath> gnome is different..it stores it in a hidden folder under ~/
[11:45] <ltR20> nvidia won't help, yes i did.
[11:45] <jadaz87> what is the difference between upgrade and update?
[11:46] <dooglus> update downloads the list of packages, upgrade downloads and installs the packages themselves
[11:46] <Warbo> jadaz87: Update fetches new lists for apt to look through, upgrade gets new packages to install
[11:46] <Zarephath> jadaz87: Update updates the entries from sources.list in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:46] <Zarephath> The other actually upgrades your software
[11:46] <newbie33> where I can ask newbish questions?
[11:46] <ltR20> beerrocks how do i show you the logfile
[11:46] <Warbo> newbie33: Here
[11:46] <erUSUL> jadaz87: update is for updating the list of packages in the repos. upgrade installs the lastest versions of packages you have instaled by looking at the list update fetched
[11:47] <beerockxs> ltR20, I'm not that knowledgable about nvidia cards, I use an ATI card.
[11:47] <erUSUL> newbie33: here
[11:47] <Zarephath> newbie33: Read tuxmagazine.com for some good information as well
[11:47] <Zarephath> I run nvidia...whats up?
[11:47] <ltR20> Hey
[11:47] <newbie33> mount /dev/hda0 /mnt/fat
[11:47] <ltR20> Zar, I instaled the nvidia drivers and then i cant start X
[11:47] <newbie33> whats wrong?
[11:47] <ltR20> i get an error then i have to reconfigure it
[11:48] <Warbo> newbie33: Well, for one there is no 0 partition :)
[11:48] <newbie33> I want to mount fat32 system disk
[11:48] <newbie33> ok then it could be hda6
[11:48] <erUSUL> newbie33: /dev/hda0 does not exist it is 1,2,3....
[11:48] <newbie33> the error is the same
[11:48] <trainstroker> warbo: how do i go about changin autoboot options
[11:48] <Zarephath> ltR20: Hmmm...did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg?
[11:48] <Warbo> newbie33: use "sudo" in front, then put hda1 or hda2 or something
[11:48] <ricodued> yay :D
[11:48] <newbie33> mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/fat
[11:48] <newbie33> not work too
[11:48] <ltR20> Yes and i'm back in
[11:48] <ltR20> but the nvidia drivers wont install !!!
[11:48] <Warbo> trainstroker: Do you mean the mount ones (/etc/fstab)?
[11:48] <Zarephath> ltR20: I may have the command wrong..but it is close
[11:49] <erUSUL> newbie33: for ex. mount -t auto /dev/hda2 /mnt/fat
[11:49] <trainstroker> i guess yeah
[11:49] <ltR20> Yeah I re-configed it
[11:49] <trainstroker> brb will look for your reply
[11:49] <erUSUL> newbie33: /mnt/fat must exist beforehand
[11:49] <ltR20> how come it's not working
[11:49] <jadaz87> does anyone know where gnome write the config for the defaul background?
[11:49] <Zarephath> Yeah but the directory has to be created first....
[11:49] <PuMpErNiCkEl> ltR20: Are you installing them from the nvidia.com script or from the repository?
[11:49] <newbie33> the /mnt/ dir is empty
[11:49] <newbie33> its fresh install
[11:49] <Zarephath> ltR20: What card is it?
[11:49] <ltR20> PuMp from the repos
[11:49] <rukuartic> newbie33: Are you sure you have the right drive?
[11:50] <ltR20> my drivers were working yesturday
[11:50] <ltR20> i installed it using the easyubuntu thing
[11:50] <newbie33> yes im sure
[11:50] <erUSUL> newbie33: well just do sudo mkdir /mnt/fat or mount in /mnt
[11:50] <ltR20> then i rebooted and everything went wrong
[11:50] <newbie33> mm ok :)
[11:50] <erUSUL> newbie33: like this mount -t auto /dev/hda6 /mnt/
[11:50] <ltR20> i'm using a GEFORCE TI 4800SE
[11:50] <Zarephath> ltR20: did you post the error to pastebin?
[11:50] <PuMpErNiCkEl> ltR20: hmmm... odd, usually the repository version 'just works'
[11:50] <ltR20> how do i get the logfile?
[11:50] <ricodued> How would one go about determining the installed GTK+ version?
[11:51] <Zarephath> ltr20: Just a sec
[11:51] <erUSUL> !info libgtk
[11:51] <PuMpErNiCkEl> ltR20: dmesg
[11:51] <ricodued> Thanks
[11:51] <Warbo> trainstroker: Look through the file /etc/fstab ("sudo nano /etc/fstab") and also in the manual for mount ("man mount") to get all of the options. I think adding the option "uid=yourusername" to the options column will sort it. Then instead of rebooting just use "sudo umount /where/it/is/mounted" then "sudo mount -a" to mount what is in fstab
[11:51] <PuMpErNiCkEl> ltR20: you can use dmesg | tail to shorten the output, if necessary
[11:51] <ricodued> Just kidding, !info libgtk didn't work. Oh well. GUI isn't everything :)
[11:52] <erUSUL> ltR20: look here /var/log/Xorg.0.log (last lines)
[11:52] <rukuartic> ricodued: I stoped using that except for firefox and thunderbird
[11:52] <Zarephath> ltR20: Look in /var/log
[11:52] <ricodued> Gtk+ 2.x? or !info.. ?
[11:52] <ltR20> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12567
[11:52] <ScreaminIke> where can i find a working installation of lilypond? the one in the repositories is messed up.
[11:52] <rukuartic> ScreaminIke: Can you get the source? Compile it yourself
[11:53] <ScreaminIke> will it show up in synaptic?
[11:53] <rukuartic> Nope
[11:53] <ScreaminIke> hrm
[11:53] <ScreaminIke> how do i build a debian package from it?
[11:53] <PuMpErNiCkEl> ltR20: Okay, you'll have to look at the logfiles for something other than that... those lines are the result of a different bug (ubuntu has trouble recognizing the numlock key, so it generates error messages if numlock is on)
[11:53] <ScreaminIke> (from source, imean)
[11:53] <Zarephath> ltR20: Looks like you have a problem with the keyboard for some reason...are you using a language other than enlglish?
[11:54] <ltR20> no
[11:54] <Warbo> ScreaminIke:  Checkinstall once you have the source (probobly from their website)
[11:54] <rukuartic> ScreaminIke: No clue... I just ./configure && make && checkinstall
[11:54] <Zarephath> Well did you try the command to see what you get?
[11:54] <Zarephath> It is in the pastebin
[11:55] <Zarephath> 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[11:55] <scifi> i have a folder called "ffsettings" that has appeared on my desktop during updating firefox, what shall i do with it? dont really want i there :P
[11:55] <ScreaminIke> thanx, all
[11:55] <Warbo> scifi: Is it from an Ubuntu package???!!!
[11:55] <deflux-> What is the right way to remotely log into a xdmcp-enabled host from ubuntu?
[11:56] <FlannelKing> deflux-: you can do it from the login screen
[11:57] <scifi> warbo: i dont know, it appeared while doing the backu firefox settings commands i ran as shown on wiki
[11:57] <scifi> backup*
[11:57] <Zarephath> ltR20: You want a copy of my xorg.conf to look at?
[11:57] <GTX> Is there anyone here which is kind enough to see why my iptables configuration ( http://www.proupload.com/uploads/1145521713.txt ) isn't allowing me to send or receive emails to the internet or localy :\
[11:57] <ltR20> K
[11:57] <Warbo> scifi: Well if it is only a backup then you can safely move it to a suitable folder (I would put it in /home/chris/Files/System/Storage, but I'm far too organised :))
[11:58] <nflamel> anybody knows if there's any problem with coreutils in dapper drake
[11:58] <nflamel> ?
[11:58] <FlannelKing> nflamel: #ubuntu+1 will get a better response
[11:58] <ltR20> PUT IT IN Pastebi
[11:58] <nflamel> FlannelKing, ok, thankyou
[11:59] <scifi> ok done