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jessebinteliwasp: I have no idea why that is so.12:03
jessebinteliwasp: maybe you can ask everyone else here if they can help, cause I think I'm at about the limit of my knowledge here.12:05
inteliwaspi figured it out, the font is set way high12:05
jessebinteliwasp: very good!12:06
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inteliwaspor mabe not...12:07
inteliwaspbrb12:07
inteliwaspneed restart12:07
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asranielhi there, i need quickly some help for a friend. how can i mount a ext3 partition read write for a user?12:14
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guerillaHi I have a problem12:16
guerillaI just installed fluxbox using the package manager12:16
inteliwaspjesseb: well i fix it too well, everything is too small :P12:16
guerillaBut I have no idea how to enable it12:16
guerillaCan someone please help me out12:17
inteliwaspgive them a minute thay are extremly bussy12:17
robotgeekguerilla: logout, and select fluxbox from the menu12:17
guerillaThere is no menu at startup, there is only a logon that just asks for password12:18
robotgeekguerilla: it should be under sessions12:18
inteliwasprobotgeek: how good are you at graphics?12:19
robotgeekinteliwasp: not very good, why?12:19
guerillarobotgeek, ok Ill go check it, thankyou12:19
inteliwaspoh i tried to update my 3d drivers and it blew up in my face :)12:20
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inteliwasprobotgeek: out of your legue?12:21
robotgeekinteliwasp: most definetly12:22
inteliwasprobotgeek: know of a place to get some help?12:25
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noaXesshow to start the x config tool in command mode?12:27
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guerillarobotgeek, I found the fluxbox, and it worked, but there is only restart,exit and xterm on the menu12:28
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robotgeekguerilla: such is fluxbox12:30
guerilla:(12:30
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guerillarobotgeek, I wanted to make it look like the screenshot of nubuntu I saw12:31
guerillarobotgeek, I found the theme, but dont know how to install it12:32
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noaXessi hav installed dapper drake 6 on my asus w1v, ati radeon x700, with 1680x1050.. x starts but monitor shows nothing..12:32
robotgeekguerilla: sorry, i have not much idea about fluxbox, sorry12:32
_martyndak3b is only writing at 4x on a dell inspiron 6000, can someone help me please?12:32
noaXessif i stop x ctrl+alt+backspace and restart in recovery mode, i don't see any error.12:32
guerillarobotgeek, Ok I wont annoy you anymore, thanks12:32
me2winnoaXess: are you using DVI or VGA?12:34
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noaXessme2win: its my notebook.. wow.. i duno..12:35
noaXessasus w1v12:35
noaXessati tech radeon mob. x70012:35
me2winthats wierd12:36
me2winnoaXess: have you tried reconfiguring the x server?12:36
noaXessme2win: how?.. is there a command tool?12:37
noaXessor hacking the xorg.conf file?12:38
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me2win!xorg12:38
ubotuI heard xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html12:38
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noaXessaha12:38
me2winrun that command12:39
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noaXessme2win: ok.. thanks12:39
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pjwWhen will be the new version of ubuntu?12:54
pjwtoday?12:54
spariticus_rexpjw: no, certainly not...12:54
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spariticus_rexI believe it is scheduled for June 200612:55
nexus10Hi. Could anyone point me to docs on getting kdeprintfax set up? I have a wrking modem set up on /dev/ttyS14, I have no idea how to get it to send faxes. Any pointers, anyone?12:55
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noaXessme2win: i have a switch to switch between internal and external monitor on my notebook.. now.. i need to put this switch to activate the internal monitor.. but the monitor comes not correct up..12:57
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suspecthello01:01
suspectdoes anyone know what to do with a .daa file?01:01
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Excaliber?01:02
nexus10suspect: have you tried www.filext.com ?01:03
Excaliberwill that work?01:03
Excaliberno i have a file that says uknown01:03
Excaliberunknown01:03
Excaliberwhat do i do with a file that is unknown01:04
nexus10Excaliber: www.filext.com tells you which app is associated with an extension01:04
Excaliberi dont understand this web01:05
Excaliberi searched for fruity loops01:06
Excaliberbut nothing01:06
nexus10Excaliber: http://www.filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=daa&Search=Search01:06
spariticus_rexis the .daa file from fruity loops?01:06
Excaliberno im trying to install fruity loops but its a unknown file01:07
Excaliberi dont know what to do with a unknown file01:07
spariticus_rextrying to install fruity loops on linux?01:07
Excaliberyeah01:07
Excaliberyou know whats that right?01:08
Nomad411I do, but will it work?01:08
Nomad411I just did an update and Forefox is coming down.  is it 1.5?01:08
Excaliberi said fruity loops01:08
spariticus_rexso using wine, obviously. What point is the problem at?01:09
Nomad411I know fruity loops, yes01:09
Nomad411it's firefox 1.08.. :(01:09
ExcaliberNO ITS NOT01:09
Excaliberlol01:09
Excaliberits a software to make music01:10
Nomad411No no sorry.. :)01:10
Excaliber= )01:10
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Nomad411I know, let me rephrase..  I popped in to ask about the firefox I'm updating, but also answered your question about fruity loops..01:10
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Excaliberoh01:10
Nomad411so 1 - I know fruity loops, used to love it01:10
Nomad4112 - I'm getting firefox 1.08 :(01:10
Nomad411:D01:11
Excaliberwell you know what to do with unknown files?01:11
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nexus10Excaliber: are you trying to use fruityLoops with wine?01:11
Mgrvlnopen .daa's with an iso program01:11
GuerillaTactiksWhat command do I use to launch konqueror from the command line?01:12
Mgrvlnexample winiso01:12
Excaliberall im trying to do is install fruity loops01:12
Excaliberbut the file is unknown01:12
spariticus_rexso you have something you downloaded from p2p or something?01:12
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Snake__GuerillaTactiks: konqueror01:13
Excaliberuhmm torrent01:13
Nomad411is uhmmtorrent better than utorrent?01:13
Nomad411heheeh  Just kididng01:13
Snake__utorrent ftw01:13
spariticus_rexokay, well as far as I know .daa is something you have to open up with an iso program. you might have to use windows...01:14
Nomad411is it same as .iso?  If so you could mount it with  sudo mount -t loop filename.daa /mnt01:14
Mgrvlnmight open that way01:15
Distro^Junkiewhat is needed to build from svn ?01:15
noaXess!xorg01:15
ubotuI guess xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html01:15
nexus10From that URI at filext.com: DAA is a format for an image file, which supports some advanced features, such as compression, password protection, ...01:15
GuerillaTactikssnake__ thanks01:15
Snake__GuerillaTactiks: np01:15
Excaliberno01:16
GuerillaTactikssnake__ how about the file manager?01:16
Excaliberim talking about the unknown file01:16
Excaliberwhat do i do with a unknown file01:16
Snake__GuerillaTactiks: That is the file manager01:16
Excaliber??????01:16
spariticus_rexno extension?01:17
GuerillaTactikssnake__ no i mean the command for the visual one, I dont know its name, maybe nautilus01:17
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Snake__GuerillaTactiks: your in kubuntu right?01:18
GuerillaTactikssnake__ yep01:18
Excaliberall i see is fruityloops01:18
Snake__GuerillaTactiks: Then yes, your file manager is konquer, type whereever you want to go in the address bar01:18
Excaliberno .w/e01:18
Snake__GuerillaTactiks: You cant ctrl+t to open a new tab if you want to01:19
GuerillaTactikssnake__ ok cool, thankyou again01:19
Excaliberhellooooo01:19
Snake__No problem01:19
Excaliberwhat do i do with a unknown file???01:19
spariticus_rexI do not know!!01:19
Snake__Excaliber: Find out what kind of file it is01:19
Excaliberhow?01:19
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Snake__Excaliber: No idea, that is up to you01:19
Mgrvln.daa files wont work under linux01:19
Excaliberok01:20
spariticus_rexhave you tried "tail" and "head" to see if it gives a clue about what type of file it is?01:20
Excalibertail?01:20
spariticus_rexjust type "tail FILE" under terminal01:20
Excaliberwth/01:20
Mgrvlndaemon tools will mount it for you though01:20
nexus10Excaliber: if someone is talking to you they'll usually start the message with your nick :-)01:21
Excaliberi know01:21
Excaliber= )01:21
Snake__nexus10: I believe spariticus_rex is actually talking to him ;)01:21
robotgeekfile works better than tail and head :)01:21
nexus10:-) beats me...01:22
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spariticus_rexrobotgeek: how does one use file?01:22
robotgeekspariticus_rex: file <filename>01:22
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Snake__spariticus_rex: just or future refrence, man pages rock! :P01:22
spariticus_rexSnake__: of course!01:22
Excalibersuspect@suspect:~$ tail Fruity Loops Studio Producer Edition XXL V6.0401:23
Snake__robotgeek: Ooooo I wanna visit the year 3000!!01:23
Snake__:P01:23
Excalibertail: cannot open `Fruity' for reading: No such file or directory01:23
Excalibertail: cannot open `Loops' for reading: No such file or directory01:23
Excalibertail: cannot open `Studio' for reading: No such file or directory01:23
Snake__!pastebin01:23
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126901:23
Excalibertail: cannot open `Producer' for reading: No such file or directory01:23
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spariticus_rexExcaliber: You have to escape the spaces.01:23
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Snake__robotgeek: whodat01:23
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Excaliberhello?01:24
spariticus_rexExcaliber: Every space that is in the file name requires you to type a backslash before it. So "tail Fruity Loops Studio" would have to be done like so: "tail Fruity\ Loops\ Studio"01:24
robotgeekExcaliber: use tab completion01:24
Snake__spariticus_rex: or just tab it..01:24
spariticus_rextrue...01:24
Excaliberthis is the file name01:24
ExcaliberFruity Loops Studio Producer Edition XXL V6.0401:24
ExcaliberFruity Loops Studio Producer Edition XXL V6.0401:24
ExcaliberFruity Loops Studio Producer Edition XXL V6.0401:25
Excaliberoops01:25
Snake__...01:25
Excalibersorry01:25
Snake__!pastebin01:25
ubotuI heard pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126901:25
Snake__!!!!!01:25
ubotuSnake__: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:25
Snake__Grrr01:25
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spariticus_rexSo type "tail F" then hit tab to complete the name, right?01:25
Excaliberim sorry01:25
Snake__spariticus_rex: correct01:25
spariticus_rexis that how tab completion works?01:25
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Snake__spariticus_rex: just like in IRC ;)01:25
robotgeekExcaliber: type "file Fruity\ Loops\ Studio\ Producer\ Edition\ XXL\ V6.04"01:25
robotgeekExcaliber: or you can type "file Fruity<press tab key>"01:26
spariticus_rexSnake__: I never bothered to figure out tab completion... now I feel stupid ;-)01:26
Excaliberit doesnt work man01:27
Snake__is it bad when my comp laggs on duke 3d..01:27
Snake__lol01:27
ExcaliberLol01:27
spariticus_rexDepends... are you running it in dosemu?01:27
Snake__spariticus_rex: native on win xp01:27
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Excaliberi can edit the file type though01:28
spariticus_rexSnake__: Why in the world would you run Win XP???!!01:28
spariticus_rex;-)01:28
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Excaliberso what should i eidit it to?01:28
Snake__spariticus_rex: games01:28
Excaliberedit*01:28
spariticus_rexSnake__: Who needs those?01:28
Excaliber.exe01:28
LogicalDashI'm trying to get something called grandfatherclock to run at startup. How do I configure this in Ubuntu?01:28
Excaliber?01:29
LogicalDash*Kubuntu01:29
Snake__spariticus_rex: me. Big time/01:29
Excaliberhellooo01:29
spariticus_rexExcaliber: no, not .exe. It most likely is some sort of other file.01:29
Excaliberwhat should i edit it as?01:29
Excaliberwhat should i make it to?01:29
spariticus_rexI'm not sure.01:29
spariticus_rexCan you tell me where you got it from?01:29
Excaliberhttp://www.torrentspy.com/01:30
Snake__Excaliber: its a torrent.01:30
Snake__.torrent01:30
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spariticus_rexExcaliber: Hold on, let me check it out01:30
Excaliberyes01:30
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RiddellLogicalDash: add a .desktop file in ~/.kde/Autostart01:30
Snake__Excaliber: no thats what im telling you. Thats what kind of file it is..01:31
spariticus_rexExcaliber: you've already downloaded it? with your torrent software?01:31
Excaliberok01:31
Excaliberyes01:31
Excaliberbittorrent01:31
Snake__oh01:31
Snake__crap01:31
Excaliberits saved ont he desktop01:31
Snake__never mind then its not a torrent.01:31
Snake__It could be anything in the world01:31
spariticus_rexso it ain't a torrent anymore01:31
spariticus_rexI'm trying to find it on torrentspy01:31
Excaliberits the second one you see01:32
Excaliberthat says application main01:32
spariticus_rexi see01:32
spariticus_rexI think it is a .rar01:32
LogicalDashRiddell: "No such file or directory"01:32
spariticus_rextry naming it that and see what happens...01:32
spariticus_rexExcaliber: never mind, it is a .daa file.01:33
nexus10Excaliber: from filext, it looks likely it's a PowerISO image which uses some proprietary compression01:33
spariticus_rexExcaliber: do you have access to a windows computer?01:33
Excaliberyes my sis laptop01:34
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Excaliberbut it has a virus01:34
Excaliberi don't like using it01:34
spariticus_rexExcaliber:Well, if possible you should try copying the file over to her computer, then use PowerISO to open it. You won't get any of her viruses on linux, if that helps.01:34
Snake__Excaliber: every windows PC has a virus.01:35
Snake__its called windows01:35
spariticus_rexExcaliber: you can get PowerISO demo off the net.01:35
Snake__its a plauge sweeping the world01:35
Excaliberbut i just want to install it now01:35
wubrgamerhey....if i could get some help with an apt-get problem.........i would REALLY appreciate it...........i need a default sources.list for kubuntu......(i installed kubuntu from apt-getting a kubuntu-desktop package from an UBUNTU server base install)01:35
Excaliberand she has a slow ass pc01:35
Excaliberoops language01:35
spariticus_rexExcaliber: sorry, nothing else works that I know of. .daa is proprietary and doesn't have native support in linux.01:36
Excalibercrap01:36
Excaliberso you want me to go on windows for what again?01:36
Riddell!sources01:36
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource01:36
Riddellwubrgamer: ^^01:37
wubrgamerhmm?01:37
spariticus_rexExcaliber: You have to copy the file over somehow (burn it to cd if you have to), then download PowerISO onto her computer, and use it to open the file.01:37
wubrgameroh01:37
wubrgamerdoes kubuntu use the standard ubuntu repositories ?01:37
wubrgamerno matter HOW i install ?01:37
wubrgamercause i KNOW how to enable repositories (done it before.......but i used nano..........)01:38
grzesiekhi! I just did a clean install of dapper and I can't print... system settings after a long wait gives me something like "can't connect to cups"... anyone can help me? it did work for me just a few days ago...01:38
Excaliberi want it on my pc01:38
Excalibernot hers01:38
Riddellwubrgamer: it uses the same respositorys as ubuntu01:38
spariticus_rexExcaliber: once you open it on her computer, you can copy it back and install it.01:39
Riddellgrzesiek: known problem, what did you install from?01:39
Excaliber.exe file?01:39
wubrgamerriddel: thkn you01:39
wubrgamerplenty01:39
spariticus_rexIt should end up as .exe01:39
wubrgameryou guys are awesome..........01:39
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grzesiekRiddel: from a dapper daily build cd. and did dist-upgrade today.01:39
nexus10grzesiek: what does /etc/init.d/cupsys status show? Is the cupsd daemon running?01:40
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grzesieksays cupsd is running01:42
nexus10grzesiek: maybe try /etc/init.d/cupsys restart ? The Windows strategy...01:44
grzesiekchecked it already, still nothing01:44
nexus10grzesiek: sorry, not sure I can offer more sensible advice.01:45
grzesiekthanks for trying anyway!01:45
nexus10Anyone here got any idea where I could find some docs on getting kdeprintfax talking to my faxmodem?01:45
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normal123hey01:48
normal123where do i add perl libs01:48
normal123what folder01:48
normal123=\01:49
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grzesiekanyone else has ideas about the printing problem? Riddell, you said it's a known bug, is there some info about it on the forums, wikis, anywhere?01:50
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Riddellnalioth: ping, you're on freenode's staff list01:52
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Riddellnalioth: well, he's left now01:53
naliothRiddell: where are we forwarding to?01:53
Riddellnalioth: how do you mean?01:53
Riddellgrzesiek: you could try upgrading to pitti's cups 1.2 rc2 packages, see ubuntu-devel mailing list01:54
MatthewJDif i just installed, what is the root password ?01:54
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Excaliberyeah01:55
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grzesiekRiddell: thanks, I'm going reading...01:55
nexus10MatthewJD: if you want to run a command as root, type     sudo command01:55
MatthewJDahh01:55
nexus10MatthewJD: then type in your user password01:56
nexus10MatthewJD: if you get sick of doing this try     sudo su -01:56
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spariticus_rexAnyone know how to get swsusp working with Kubuntu? I have a pretty stock install, but don't see any option for suspending in my Kmenu.01:56
nexus10MatthewJD: but then the Ubuntu Thought Police may come and hunt you down01:56
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naliothnexus10: please don't do that01:57
nexus10nalioth: sorry -- don't do what?01:58
naliothnexus10: advise sudo su01:58
nalioth!root01:58
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.01:58
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spariticus_rexAnyone know?01:59
MatthewJDis ther a handbook ? I'mlooking for basics, like setting up tcpip01:59
spariticus_rexI'd like to add "suspend" to my Kmenu01:59
nexus10nalioth: ok, wilco. Are there any docs on /why/ root login is disabled?01:59
naliothnexus10: *buntu was designed that way02:00
nexus10nalioth: it's a good answer :-) Thanks.02:00
naliothnexus10: you can read the URL the bot posted02:00
nexus10nalioth: yup, read it before - ta.02:01
spariticus_rexWell, I guess not... :-(02:02
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joey^^has anyone else had problems running frostwire? specificially with runFrost.sh which returns errors.02:08
joey^^i'm using the debian install package. i know i can get it running by running the jar file directly, but i would prefer to use the normal install process02:09
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grzesiekRiddell, I've upgraded to cups packages you pointed me to, but it still doesn't work :(02:13
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_jeff_hey guys02:15
_jeff_whats everyones favourite p2p a02:15
_jeff_*app02:15
Riddellscp02:15
jeroenvrp_jeff_: mldonkey02:15
_jeff_whats scp?02:16
Riddellman scp02:16
jeroenvrpI'm afraid scp has nothing to with p2p02:17
jeroenvrp:-)02:17
_jeff_lol ok02:17
jeroenvrp_jeff_: did you tried mldonkey?02:17
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_jeff_lol i dont remember02:17
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_jeff_but im checking it out now02:18
jeroenvrpyes please02:18
jeroenvrpare you on breezy or dapper?02:18
_jeff_breezy02:18
_jeff_i use apollon right now02:18
jeroenvrpmmh ok02:18
_jeff_and it kind of sucks02:18
jeroenvrpdepends02:18
jeroenvrpwhat are you looking for02:18
_jeff_even with plugins02:18
_jeff_it can barely hold connections02:19
jeroenvrpwhat is the mldonkey version on breezy02:19
_jeff_even if there are like 40 people with the file, it will just sit there and not download02:19
jeroenvrp?02:19
_jeff_apollon02:20
jeroenvrp_jeff_: anyway, if you need a mldonkey deb, just shoot - its compiled on dapper, but I don't think it will give problems on breezy - version 2.7.502:21
_jeff_hmm02:21
_jeff_ok thanks02:22
jeroenvrp_jeff_: you want it?02:22
_jeff_yes please02:23
_jeff_is it ok in kde?02:24
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jeroenvrp_jeff_: mldonkey is gui-less, but02:24
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jeroenvrpyou have a webinterface by default, that rocks02:24
jeroenvrpand02:24
jeroenvrpyou have kmldonkey02:24
jeroenvrpis kde02:24
_jeff_alright cool02:25
_jeff_thanks02:25
jeroenvrpbut also sancho, thats gtk/java, but is beter than kmldonkey02:25
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jeroenvrpI use sancho, but most off the time only the webinterface02:25
_jeff_hmm02:25
_jeff_the java based ones kind of bother me02:26
jeroenvrpmldonkey has emule/edonkey and bittorrent02:26
jeroenvrp_jeff_: not its not java02:26
_jeff_they work well, but they are very resource heavy02:26
_jeff_o02:26
_jeff_sancho you say?02:26
jeroenvrpits SWT-GTK2 i02:27
jeroenvrphttp://sancho-gui.sourceforge.net/download.phtml02:27
jeroenvrpanyhow proberly you are very satisfied with the mldonkey web-gui02:27
_jeff_lol ok02:28
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nexus10Please could anyone help me interpret a settings string in KDEPrintFax? Somehow     %dev_{DEV=@@}     is, I /think/ setting the DEV var passed to /usr/bin/fax02:35
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_jeff_jeroenvrp: i installed the .deb but i dont think it made a menu entry02:38
nexus10This is in the "Command" string in the GUI dialog. I am happy to specify the device explicitly in the 'fax' script, but it seems to be getting overridden by this 'DEV=@@' string. Any idea what I should be reading?02:38
_jeff_jeroenvrp: how do you open the program?02:38
jeroenvrp_jeff_: thats normal02:38
jeroenvrpopen a terminal02:39
jeroenvrpeg konsole02:39
jeroenvrpits a daemon02:39
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jeroenvrpthe first time its good to open it in a terminal02:40
jeroenvrpthe next time just ooen it via kde-menu > run command02:40
jeroenvrptype: mlnet02:40
_jeff_ok then what02:40
_jeff_ok02:40
_jeff_ok the daemon is running02:41
_jeff_now what?02:41
jeroenvrpgreat02:41
jeroenvrpnow go to http://localhost:408002:41
jeroenvrp_jeff_: for more info etc see the great http://mldonkey.sourceforge.net/Main_Page02:43
Snake__Why are KDE apps so slow on gnome, and vise-versa?02:43
_martyndacause gnome sucks02:44
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jeroenvrpSnake__: because KDE and Gnome use different linaries02:44
jeroenvrplibaries02:45
_martyndajeez sorry, they use different libraries Qt vs GTK02:45
Snake__jeroenvrp: but when you download the program that library comes with it.02:45
jeroenvrpyes02:45
Snake__And I know that they have GTK and QT, but the whole program itself just seems slower, your DE shouldnt effect that02:45
jeroenvrpbut if you run KDE it has to launch those libaries02:45
jeroenvrpand vica versa02:45
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Snake__jeroenvrp: ahhh tru.dat. make sense :)02:46
jeroenvrpSnake__: when its loaded I dont see any difference in speed02:46
_martyndayou're really just running more stuff in the background, so it's slower02:46
jeroenvrpbut that depends on your cpu etcv02:47
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humboltwhat I hate most about either gnome and kde and the whole xwindows is that app windows stop to be drawn correctly when the app is stuck processing some bullshit (like email filters). It just looks so unprofessional.02:49
jeroenvrphumbolt: that depends on the app02:49
jeroenvrpkmail indeed does02:49
humboltI thought so02:49
raven301I just installed kubuntu ... how do I set the root password?02:49
Snake__!root02:49
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.02:49
jeroenvrpraven301: it hasnt any02:49
humboltsudo passwd root02:49
Snake__!sudo02:49
ubotufrom memory, sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.02:49
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jeroenvrphumbolt: yes indeed: sudo passwd root02:51
raven301Thanks guys for the help02:51
humbolteasy one02:51
jeroenvrpraven301: thank the bot02:51
Snake__raven301: it is for better security that you use sudo02:51
raven301:)02:51
djk_that is a misconception..02:51
Snake__djk_: how is that a misconception02:52
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jeroenvrpyes I dont think it has anything to do with sytem security, but everything with user security02:52
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jeroenvrp95% off the time I use sudo02:52
jeroenvrp2% off the time sudo -i02:53
Snake__I just use sudo su when I want to stay root for a while02:53
jeroenvrpand 3% sux02:53
jeroenvrpsux rules :-)02:54
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jeroenvrpthats form my suse and gentoo time - old habits dont go away :-)02:54
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humboltwhat is sux doing?02:54
jeroenvrpgood question02:54
raven301when i use sudo passwd root it says Sorry, try again.?02:54
jeroenvrpeasy answer02:54
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_jeff_ok i started downloading something in ml donkey, will the daemon take care of all the transers? do i have to be on the page?02:55
jeroenvrpsux does the same as su + transfers X02:55
humboltah, so I can start an x app from the console as su02:55
jeroenvrp_jeff_: the daemon takes indeed care off that02:55
jeroenvrphumbolt: yezs02:55
Snake__You should be using gtksudo or kdesu for that02:56
humboltlike ssh root@localhost02:56
jeroenvrp_jeff_: so you can close your webbrowser, or any other mldonkey gui02:56
jeroenvrpSnake__: yes and no02:56
jeroenvrpSnake__: sux gives you a lot more info if something goes wrong or if you want to make a simple debug02:57
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Snake__I see02:57
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_jeff_awesome02:58
_jeff_thanks man02:58
jeroenvrp_jeff_: welcome in the wonderfull world of mldonkey :-)02:58
jeroenvrpdont forget to read the mldonkey-homepage02:58
jeroenvrpmldonkey is very advanced02:58
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jeroenvrpcheers to you all03:01
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suspecthello03:02
suspecti need hep with this program03:02
_jeff_lol ok03:02
_jeff_thanks jero03:02
suspectya know about lmms03:02
suspectfor fruity loops03:02
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suspectto make music03:03
suspecthow do i install that?03:03
Snake__suspect: are you on breezy?03:03
suspectim on kubuntu03:03
Snake__suspect: what version, dapper or breezy03:03
suspecti dont know03:03
suspectdebian03:03
Snake__suspect: press ctrl+alt+f1 and tell me what it says (press ctrl+alt+F7 to come back to the screen your at right now)03:04
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kunghi03:08
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kungi'm a n00b :-)03:09
kunghow do i get a list of the channels?03:09
bimberikung: one way is to type /list - but don't do it! it's huge - hang on there is another way...03:12
naliothkung: your client should have that facility in the tools menu03:12
naliothdont do /list, kung it's huge and may flood you off03:12
kungi got it :-D03:12
bimberikung: there's http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode03:13
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suspectok03:16
suspecti have breezy03:16
suspectso how do install lmms its too confuding03:17
suspectconfusing03:17
kungi have dapper :P03:17
kungupdate suspect .....03:17
kungsudo dist-upgrade03:17
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suspectcommand not found03:18
kungsorry it's " sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"03:19
kungthen type your password03:19
kungsorry03:19
kungt might take more than one hour to download everything ....03:19
suspectwhy?03:19
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kungthen mayb another hour to install03:19
suspectwhat does this do?03:19
kungit upgrades to dapper03:20
suspectwhy?03:20
suspectwhy you want me to do this?03:20
kungyou can just update your breezy03:20
suspectwhat for?03:20
bimberisuspect: you need to enable the universe repository to get lmms ...03:20
bimberi!universe03:20
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource03:20
suspecti just wanted to instal lmms03:20
CheeseBurgerMansuspect: Because, it's easier to help people when you're running the same version of things.03:21
kungyou said u were having probs ... i thought first thing to do is to update :-)03:21
kung:-S03:21
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CheeseBurgerManThat too. :)03:21
suspectwell its done03:21
suspectits done03:21
kungok good03:21
suspectmozilla firefox 1.08?03:22
kunganyone here got an amd64 ubuntu with an ati graphic board to run xgl ?03:22
suspectomg03:22
suspecti want to run lmms03:22
suspecti need it03:22
suspectto make music03:22
kungi have that ... what is ur prob?03:22
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suspectsorry03:23
CheeseBurgerMan'sudo apt-get install lmms' should work03:23
Snake[Away] suspect: what are you running03:23
kungenable the repository as ubotu told you and install using synaptic03:23
suspectkubuntu03:23
Snake[Away] CheeseBurgerMan: its not in the breezy repos03:23
CheeseBurgerManIt's in mine...03:23
CheeseBurgerMan:P03:23
Snake[Away] CheeseBurgerMan: are you on dapper03:23
CheeseBurgerManNo03:23
Snake[Away] CheeseBurgerMan: hmmm thats not fair03:23
suspectim on breezy03:23
Snake[Away] it wasnt in my breezy repos..03:24
Snake[Away] !info lmms03:24
CheeseBurgerManlol03:24
Snake[Away] CheeseBurgerMan: Package 'lmms' does not exist.03:24
Snake[Away] check your sources buddy03:24
bimberiyes, not in breezy :/03:24
bimberi!info lmms dapper03:24
CheeseBurgerManI'd know if I was on dapper...03:24
ubotulmms: (Linux Multimedia Studio), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.1.2-1 (dapper), Packaged size: 1189 kB, Installed size: 2492 kB03:24
kunganyone here got an amd64 ubuntu with an ati graphic board to run xgl ?03:24
bimberibut is in dapper03:24
suspectwait when i did that command it changed to dapper?03:24
suspecthow do i change it to dapper?03:25
Snake[Away] suspect: its a b1tch to get running in breezy, because of outdated librarys, you could wait until June 1st and get dapper (or go get the beta now?)03:25
Snake[Away] suspect: its the next version of kubuntu, you would need to go download a ISO, please note its still in testing03:25
suspectoh man03:25
suspectbut one of ya have dapper?03:25
Snake[Away] I do03:25
CheeseBurgerManhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/670529 <-- There's my sources.list, and the search results for lmms03:26
suspectcan i install it on breezy?03:26
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Snake[Away] CheeseBurgerMan: pull it, see if it works, I think your getting it from the backports03:27
CheeseBurgerMankung: Not I. I've got amd64 Kubuntu, but I'm still on Breezy as I said.03:27
CheeseBurgerManSnake[Away] : Installing...03:27
bimberiCheeseBurgerMan: show us 'apt-cache policy lmms'03:27
suspectlook can someone with breezy just tell me a easy way to install lmms03:27
suspect?03:27
Snake[Away] suspect: were working on it03:28
CheeseBurgerManbimberi: Sure, once it's done doing this. ;)03:28
Snake[Away] suspect: slow down03:28
bimberiCheeseBurgerMan: kk :)03:28
suspecti dont have much time thats why03:28
CheeseBurgerManhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/67053503:29
Snake[Away] CheeseBurgerMan: yep its from the backports03:29
CheeseBurgerManYeah.03:29
CheeseBurgerManI assume that's not what he wants?03:30
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Snake[Away] suspect: in a terminal type "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"03:30
suspectW: Unable to locate package lmms03:30
suspectthats what happened when i typed the command in the link03:30
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Snake[Away] suspect: ill hook you up, just tell me when youve done that03:30
Excaliberi did that like 50 secs ago03:31
Excaliberlol03:31
Snake[Away] Excaliber: okay, add "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse" to the bottom of that page03:31
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Snake[Away] then save it03:31
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CheeseBurgerManThen 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install lmms' :P03:31
Excaliberadd deb multiverse?03:32
CheeseBurgerManAdd everything in the quotes03:32
Excaliberi don;t know how to do that03:32
Snake__Excaliber: theres a huge line there to do, everything I qupoted03:32
Snake__Excaliber: copy and paste that line into the bottom of the filr03:32
CheeseBurgerManExcaliber: Copy & Paste03:32
CheeseBurgerManlol03:32
Excaliberwithout the qoutes03:32
Excaliber?03:32
CheeseBurgerManyep03:32
Excaliberbut how do i add it?03:33
Snake__Excaliber: just copy and paste it into the end of the document03:33
Snake__then save the document03:33
Excaliberwhat document?03:33
Excaliberi dont get this03:34
CheeseBurgerManOK03:34
CheeseBurgerManYou have Kate open, right?03:34
Snake__Excaliber: did you "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" ??03:34
Excaliberno03:34
CheeseBurgerManDo it. :)03:34
Snake__Excaliber: type that into a konsole03:35
Excaliberi have konqueror03:35
Excaliberup03:35
kungwhy doesn't he just use echo to send that to the file ?03:35
Snake__kung: because I would like him to be familer with his sources.list03:35
Snake__Excaliber: Please for god sake just type the command I just told you03:35
kungok don't bite :O03:35
Snake__kung: im not, just saying :)03:36
kungno worries :-)03:36
bimberiah, backports aren't in ubotu's knowledgebase03:36
Excaliberok i have aources.list-kate open03:36
Excalibersources*03:36
Snake__Excaliber: now add that deb lin I told you a while back03:36
Excaliberjust add it anywhere?03:37
CheeseBurgerManOn a new line at the bottom03:37
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Snake__Excaliber: add it to the end on a new line03:37
Excaliberok i did03:37
Excaliberwhat now save it?03:37
CheeseBurgerManYep03:37
Excaliberto desktop?03:37
CheeseBurgerManNo, just save it03:37
Snake__no just click save03:37
CheeseBurgerManThen 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install lmms'03:37
Excaliberok it saved03:37
CheeseBurgerManin a console03:38
Excaliberwith the quotes?03:38
Snake__no03:38
Excaliberoh ok03:38
CheeseBurgerManNope -- the quotes are just to distinquish where the command it. :)03:38
CheeseBurgerManis*03:38
Excaliberits installing03:38
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CheeseBurgerMan:)03:39
publiusgood day03:39
Excaliberthen how do i open it?03:39
Excaliberjust go to the menu?03:39
CheeseBurgerManrun 'lmms' in the console03:39
Snake__Excaliber: apt+f2 type in lmms and click run03:39
CheeseBurgerManHello, publius.03:39
Snake__or do what CheeseBurgerMan said03:39
Excaliberwhat?03:39
CheeseBurgerManIn the console you have open, type 'lmms'03:39
Snake__Excaliber: either type lmms in a console, or type Atl+F2 and type lmms there03:40
Excaliberthere was alot of warnings but will it stilll work?03:40
CheeseBurgerManDunno, did it work?03:40
CheeseBurgerManYou have to tell me. :)03:40
Excaliberhol on03:40
Excaliberok i typed lmms03:40
Excaliberand then i pressed enter and some setupp came up03:40
Snake__Then it works03:40
Snake__Congrads03:40
ExcaliberThank you.03:41
Excaliber= )03:41
CheeseBurgerMan:)03:41
Excalibershould i put samples as a link or copy?03:41
publiusSo, I've just freshly installed Kubuntu. Used to use Ubuntu03:41
CheeseBurgerManWelcome to the blue side. :P03:41
Excalibernvm03:41
publiusthanks :)03:41
CheeseBurgerManExcaliber: You're on your own with lmms now (at least as far as I'm concerned), I've never used it03:42
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CheeseBurgerManpublius: Have a problem, with the big blue K?03:42
publiusjust one. I can't get the kmenu to show any changes i make from the KDE Menu Editor03:43
CheeseBurgerManDid you make sure you saved it? ;)03:43
publiusyah.03:43
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publiusI saved it with the save icon, the save menu item, and ctrl+s03:43
CheeseBurgerManWhat change did you make? Did you try to edit a menu like 'Debian' which isn't shown by default?03:44
publiusI installed Firefox and tried to add a new firefox item in the Internet menu03:45
CheeseBurgerManTry restarting kicker.03:46
ZenethianCan someone hint me towards the procedure for mapping these fancy "multimedia" keys on my keyboard to doing something?03:47
publiuskill -9 or log out & log back in?03:47
kungthat's not easy Zenethian ....03:48
CheeseBurgerManpublius: I actually don't know what 'kill -9' would do - the only way I know is 'sudo killall kicker' then pressing Alt+F2, and running 'kicker'. Logging out and back in would work too.03:48
kungwat kind of keyboard u have ?03:48
CheeseBurgerManZenethian: KeyTouch should be able to do it, although you may have to work a bit...03:49
publiusk. Before i try that, When i save my changes in the menu editor, if i close the editor and open it again, the changes are not there.03:49
CheeseBurgerManhttp://keytouch.sf.net/03:49
publiusSo that leads me to believe that it's the menu editor failing to save, rather than the kmenu process failing to read.03:50
Zenethianerm, I know there's an easier way than this... hehe03:50
ZenethianI did it once before in kde 3.203:50
ZenethianI just don't remember how.03:50
CheeseBurgerManpublius: Well, since I'm not sure where the menu editor saves the file, I'm not sure where to point you.03:51
publiusk03:52
publiuswell i'll give it a go. Thanks!03:52
CheeseBurgerManGood luck03:52
publius:)03:52
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CheeseBurgerManDid it work?03:55
publiusit worked!03:56
CheeseBurgerMan:D03:56
publiusCheeseBurgerMan is awesome03:56
publiusThanks!03:56
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CheeseBurgerManYou're welcome. :)03:57
publiusNow, What do you know about apache...03:58
publius:-P03:58
CheeseBurgerManlol03:58
publiusjust kidding03:58
CheeseBurgerManGood, 'cause I know nothing about it. ;)03:58
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KarlZenethian: there's also "bindkeys" http://hocwp.free.fr/xbindkeys/xbindkeys.html04:11
Zenethianhmm04:12
Zenethianthat sounds familiar.04:12
ZenethianI think that's what I had used previously04:12
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Karlok keytouch is better :-p04:18
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Karljust tryed it ;-)04:18
Karlthx CheeseBurgerMan04:18
CheeseBurgerManNP04:18
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_abbenormalhey guys how do i change my system for utf-8 to something else where do i start at04:19
_abbenormalfrom04:19
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Karlhey, how do u put keytouch to be launched in every login?04:22
joey^^!codecs04:22
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories04:22
joey^^!easysource04:22
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic04:22
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Karlhow do u configure an aplication to be automatically launched in every login?04:29
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HobbseeKarl: symlink in ~/.kde/Autostart04:38
laszlokKarl: put a link in ~/.kde/Autostart04:42
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Karlthx04:45
Karland many programs?04:45
Karlaaaaah ok ok04:45
Karlthx ;-)04:46
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_jeff_ahh04:54
_jeff_excuse me04:54
=== DeadS0ul claps
_jeff_lol04:54
DeadS0ulhehehe04:54
spariticus_rexhow do you *do* something (like clap) in IRC?04:55
Cheapy/me04:55
Cheapylike04:55
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BluesKajHowdy04:56
CheeseBurgerManHello04:56
spariticus_rexhey there04:57
CheeseBurgerManNo, that's not how people are usually greeted.04:57
CheeseBurgerManBut I guess spariticus_rex thinks highly of you...04:57
_jeff_lol what?04:57
CheeseBurgerManhehe04:57
DeadS0ul=|04:57
DeadS0ulCheeseBurgerMan: nice nick...04:57
_jeff_lol04:57
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_jeff_does anybody here use last.fm on kubuntu?04:58
koshwhat is last.fm?04:58
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_jeff_its a social music network04:58
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DeadS0ulit's a music matching social network04:58
koshthen no I don't use it04:58
DeadS0ulamarok supports it in 1.404:58
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BluesKajI guessyou guys already know about kubuntu issues with AMD 64 machines...I've tried the fixes on the the net but it still fails after the startx command ...any suggestions ?04:58
_jeff_you tell it what kind of music you like, it will build a database based on player statistics04:59
_jeff_and match you with others of the same tastes and allow you to listen to songs that they like04:59
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_jeff_deads0ul: awesome, i think my repos for amarok packages are broken though :(05:00
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suspecthey05:00
=== robotgeek just loves music matching databases
_jeff_hey man05:00
koshah I don't really see the point05:00
=== _jeff_ wants to but cant get it working
spariticus_rexheya suspect05:00
suspectcan someone show me how dapper kubuntu looks like?05:00
DeadS0ulreally? i thought kubuntu already put up the packages for 1.405:00
robotgeeki just love being sterotyped :)05:00
_jeff_its just so you can listen to music that you might like05:00
suspectdapper?05:01
DeadS0ulsuspect: the login screen looks crappy05:01
suspectlol05:01
spariticus_rexwhat?05:01
suspectjust show me a pic05:01
DeadS0uli can't fucking change it either05:01
robotgeek!coc05:01
ubotucoc is, like, totally, the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/05:01
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_jeff_lol05:01
=== spariticus_rex envies kosh's great collection of classical music
robotgeekDeadS0ul: you can change it from login manager05:01
suspectcan someone show me dapper kubuntu05:01
DeadS0ultried that05:01
suspect?05:01
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robotgeekDeadS0ul, use alt + f2, type "kcontrol" in the text box, and hit the <enter> key05:01
robotgeeksuspect: hmm, screenshots must be on osdir or distrowatch05:02
suspectsend me a link05:02
robotgeeksuspect: sorry, i won't spoonfeed you05:02
spariticus_rexsuspect: have you checked out shots.osdir.org05:02
DeadS0ulkde doens't let me su in dapper for some reason after I enabled root logons05:02
spariticus_rexhttp://shots.osdir.org05:02
koshout of curiosity is anyone having an issue with the kdm on dapper showing fragments of the last logged in desktop to the right of the login box?05:02
spariticus_rexNo, I'm not...05:03
koshI have been playing around with it but have not figured out how it is doing that05:03
glickwhat is the name of the package that contains make and gdb and all those other developer goodies?05:03
koshespecially since I can reboot and it will show me weird fragments of what I had on my desktops before I rebooted05:03
robotgeekglick: build-essential05:03
DeadS0ulkosh: naw nothing like that here05:03
robotgeekyou'll have to install gdb yourself, glick05:03
DeadS0ulrobotgeek: I'm in the login manager, I don't see antyhign that lets me change the theme =\05:04
koshI will probalby remove and purge kdm and add it back in and see if that fixes it, however it is an issue I have never seen before05:04
suspectdoes it look nice dapper?05:04
suspectdoes dapper look nice?05:05
CheeseBurgerManBetter than Breezy IMHO05:05
suspecthow do i install it?05:05
DeadS0ulyeah dapper is pretty cool05:05
robotgeekDeadS0ul: i guess you select the background separately, and the splash screen separately05:05
suspectthe beta?05:05
koshI don't really see much of a change05:05
spariticus_rexi like it a lot05:05
suspectapt-get dapper?05:05
DeadS0ulthe splash screen is fine05:05
spariticus_rexbut it looks a lot like the breezy05:05
CheeseBurgerMansuspect: No, you have to download & install it like you did Breezy05:06
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robotgeekDeadS0ul: might have to do it manually, not very sure sorry05:06
suspectok05:06
suspecthow?05:06
suspectwhere?05:06
DeadS0ulsuspect: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and change 'breezy' to 'dapper'05:06
DeadS0ulsuspect: then run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade05:06
koshumm05:06
DeadS0ulsuspect: it might break though but it usually works05:06
koshdon't do that05:06
suspectwhere do i edit?05:06
suspecthow?05:07
kosh1) you will probably make x not start anymore until you fix the symlink05:07
robotgeek!enter05:07
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.05:07
kosh2) unless you REALLY know what you are doing you should not be upgrading to dapper05:07
suspectwell how?05:07
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DeadS0ulah05:07
robotgeeksuspect: cdimage.ubuntu.com has the iso, but you should probably not be using dapper05:08
DeadS0ulsuspect: download the iso from www.kubuntu.org, try out the live cd first so you can have a sample of it05:08
koshdapper is a development release so that things can be tested and bugs can be worked out05:08
CheeseBurgerMansuspect: If you just want it to look like Dapper, get the Crystal Window Decoration from KDE-look.org05:08
DeadS0ulkosh: where do I report bugs?05:08
koshsuspect: unless you are a linux expert I would not be running dapper05:08
suspectlol05:08
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robotgeeksuspect: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/ for what it matters05:08
suspecti just wanna see the features05:08
suspectand im on kubuntu05:08
DeadS0ullive cd then man05:08
DeadS0ulit doesn't change your system05:09
suspecti know!!05:09
spariticus_rexkosh: why do you say that?05:09
suspectgod lol05:09
koshDeadS0ul: not realy sure to be honest, I have found very few bugs so far and most have been because of things that where left around on my machine05:09
koshspariticus_rex: because dapper has had things break many times while doing upgrades and the odds are that unless someone knows what they are doing they won't be able to get it fixed05:09
robotgeekDeadS0ul: you report bugs on launchpad05:09
DeadS0ulrobotgeek: luanchpad eh, I gues I'll have to google that later05:09
robotgeekDeadS0ul: check pm :)05:10
spariticus_rexkosh: I suppose so...05:10
koshspariticus_rex: for instance it seems that nearly every upgrade to x wipes out the /usr/bin/X symlink which makes X no longer start until you repair the symlink it should be pointing to Xorg05:10
robotgeekkosh: i never has to do that?05:10
suspecti want dapper05:10
DeadS0ulrobotgeek: checked, clicked on, and opend up in konq05:10
suspectto see how it is05:10
spariticus_rexkosh: do you know why?? it seems like the devs should work on that.05:10
suspectand no i don't want a live cd05:10
robotgeeksuspect: well, i gave you a link05:11
koshspariticus_rex: I have not figured out why it does that yet but it has been reported05:11
suspectso stop telling me05:11
DeadS0ulsuspect: fine, then make another partition and install dapper on it =P05:11
robotgeeksuspect: it's your system, do as you please05:11
suspectand but is it good?05:11
spariticus_rexsuspect: I think so!05:11
suspectlol05:12
suspectys have it05:12
suspectya should know05:12
suspectya*05:12
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robotgeeksuspect: pelase don't use enter as punctuation05:12
suspectok05:12
suspectso how do install it again?05:14
robotgeeksuspect: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/install/05:14
suspectthis is ubuntu man05:15
robotgeeksuspect: same install05:15
suspecti know how to install ububntu already05:15
DeadS0ulman dropping the enter punctuation habit is gonna be hard to drop, I started with IMs and not irc05:15
suspectubuntu*05:15
DeadS0ulsuspect: what're you worried bout then?05:15
robotgeeksuspect: well, it is the same procedure05:15
suspectdont you need a cd?05:15
spariticus_rexHere you go: download this file: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/dapper-install-i386.iso , burn to CD, boot from CD, follow instructions, have fun!05:16
DeadS0ulsuspect: downlaoding the cd is part of the procedure man =P05:16
DeadS0ulsuspect: just put it on a seperate partition05:16
suspecthow long will it tyake?05:16
suspecttake*05:16
DeadS0ulsuspect: bout an hour =P05:16
_jeff_long lol05:16
robotgeeksuspect: depends on your speed, maybe you will prefer a torrent05:17
spariticus_rexsuspect: depends on your connection. mine takes about 5 hours to download CD, then half an hour toinstall05:17
suspecti have optimum online05:17
_jeff_yeah its about 700 mb05:17
suspecttakes like 30 mins05:17
_jeff_ok good05:17
_jeff_anybody use a composite manager?05:17
suspectbut when i clcik the link it said open with05:17
_jeff_for true transparency and shadows05:17
_martyndasuspect: save to disk, then burn it with k3b05:18
suspecti have to open with05:18
suspectwhen i click the link05:18
mzinzI just compiled a theme for Kubuntu but now what?  I did ./configure, make, and make install05:18
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_jeff_you could copy the link location and use wget to download it05:18
CheeseBurgerMansuspect: open a console and type 'wget http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/dapper-install-i386.iso'05:18
CheeseBurgerManlol05:18
_jeff_if you dont mind downloading with the terminal05:18
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CheeseBurgerManmzinz: Control Center > Appearance & Themes > Window Decorations05:19
_martyndasuspect: you could also copy and paste the link in your browser and then save it to disk05:19
_jeff_cheeseburgerman: lol05:19
BluesKajAny one know where i can find this distro, Ubuntu-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 ?05:19
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suspectwhere is it saving at?05:19
CheeseBurgerMansuspect: ~05:19
spariticus_rexyou tell me... lol05:19
_martyndato your home dir05:20
robotgeeksuspect: current dir05:20
CheeseBurgerManspariticus_rex: By default is't the directory the console is in, which, when you start out, is ~05:20
mzinzCheeseBurgerMan: whats the command name to open up Control Center? KControl doesn't work in katapult05:20
_jeff_blueskaj: lol no, i dont know05:20
suspect17 mins left05:20
suspectdamn i love my connection05:20
CheeseBurgerManmzinz: K Menu > Run > kcontrol05:20
_jeff_mzinz: kcontrol05:20
robotgeekBluesKaj: i think you are looking for Ubuntu Breezy05:21
mzinz_jeff_: doesn't work in katapult05:21
CheeseBurgerManmzinz: Which is why you go to run. :)05:21
_jeff_or he could press alt+f2 then type kcontrol05:21
mzinzCheeseBurgerMan: oh haha05:21
_jeff_mzinz: yeah, press alt+f2 to get the run dialog, then type kcontrol05:21
mzinzCheeseBurgerMan: the theme doesn't show up there either.. it was lipstick im trying to install05:21
_jeff_wouldnt that be a style?05:22
spariticus_rexisn't there a ubuntu package for that?05:22
robotgeekyeah, in dapper there is05:22
_jeff_yeah im pretty sure its in the repos05:22
mzinzspariticus_rex: maybe... i did ./configure, make, and make install05:22
_jeff_possibly universe05:22
DeadS0ulkrun is cool, you can even hit alt + f2 and type ggi:PORN!05:22
mzinz_jeff_: ill check there.05:22
mzinz_jeff_: what does ./configure, make, and make install do... exactly?05:22
_jeff_deads0ul: lol really?05:22
DeadS0ultry it05:22
DeadS0ulggi is images.google.com05:23
BluesKajI ran the kubuntu live cd , no luck ...it just stalls05:23
DeadS0ulthere are so many web shortcuts it's great05:23
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_jeff_mzinz: configure checks out your computer to see if everythings there, make configures a build environment to install05:23
CheeseBurgerManmake install...installs05:23
_jeff_mzinz: then make install installs it05:23
robotgeek!compile05:23
_jeff_yeha05:23
ubotuA nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)05:23
DeadS0ul_jeff_: try imdb:porn hehe05:23
mzinz_jeff_: hmm.. so why doesn't my theme show uP?05:24
_jeff_lol05:24
_jeff_thats awesome05:24
_jeff_im gonna use that05:24
CheeseBurgerManmzinz: Is it a window decoration, or a style?05:24
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_jeff_yeah is it a windeco or style?05:24
mzinzCheeseBurgerMan: nevermind i see it no05:24
CheeseBurgerManGood. :D05:25
_jeff_lol05:25
_jeff_where is everybody from?05:25
_jeff_im canadian05:26
robotgeek!kofftopic05:26
ubotukofftopic is, like, Non Kubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #kubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!05:26
_jeff_lol screw off05:26
robotgeek_jeff_: i'm trying to make #kubuntu-offtopic popular :)05:26
_jeff_lol05:26
mzinzCheeseBurgerMan: where are styles stored on my computer? I need to replace the version i have with the old one05:26
DeadS0uldammit I forgot my freenode password05:27
CheeseBurgerManmzinz: I don't remember exactly.05:27
CheeseBurgerMan/usr/share/apps/kwin/ & /usr/lib/kde3/kwin05:29
CheeseBurgerManGrr05:29
BluesKajwhere can i DL the new k8 kernel pkg ?05:29
CheeseBurgerMan/usr/lib/kde305:29
_jeff_lol hes just full of directory knowledge05:29
spariticus_rexhow do i clear my run history in kde?05:29
robotgeekBluesKaj: is this a cd your are trying to boot?05:29
BluesKajI tested with the live cd but it fails05:30
robotgeekBluesKaj: hmm, i think i saw something on the devel list, moment05:30
robotgeekBluesKaj: is this flight 6?05:30
BluesKajapparently the newer 2.6 kernel with the K8 desu=ignation works on AMD 64 machines05:31
BluesKajdesignation05:31
robotgeekBluesKaj: have you tried it with flight 6?05:31
BluesKajsorry dunno what flight 6 is ?05:31
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davixhow do I configure my system locales?05:32
robotgeekBluesKaj: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/05:32
robotgeekdavix: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales05:33
spariticus_rexHow to clear run history?05:33
davixrobotgeek, i tried, it just generates to locales already configured05:33
robotgeekdavix: base-config, maybe?05:34
davixi'll try05:34
davixno such thing05:34
robotgeekdavix: hmm, moment05:35
davixsure05:35
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BluesKajok, robotgeek I found flight6 ...DLing as we speak...thx :)05:35
robotgeekdavix: isn't there a gui you could do this in (for layouts and stuff) in System Settings -> Regions05:35
davixit's not for the layout05:36
davixjust to remove some undeeded system locales05:36
BluesKajrobotgeek: , that's the latest kernel , the 2.6 ?05:36
robotgeekdavix: you might need to isntall the language support pack, not very sure how to do it05:36
robotgeekdavix: ah, okay. not sure, sorry05:36
mzinzHow do i enable menu transparency in my themes?05:39
CheeseBurgerManmzinz: Control Center > Appearence & Themes > Style > Effects tab05:40
davixTHANKS robotgeek05:40
mzinzCheeseBurgerMan: software tint, software blend, xrender blend05:41
mzinzCheeseBurgerMan: whats the difference, which is the highest qual?05:41
CheeseBurgerManI have not a clue05:41
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BluesKajanyway thx for the helps gents ...c ya later , 9905:42
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DeadS0ulwoo menu transparency =D05:51
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_jeff_whats the package for flash in konqueror and stuff again?06:00
robotgeek_jeff_: breezy or dapper?06:00
_jeff_breeziness06:01
robotgeekhmm, flashplayer-nonfree or something like that06:01
robotgeek_jeff_, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:01
_jeff_ahh fine06:02
mzinzCheeseBurgerMan: when i try to download a .deb, it just tries to open it in Konquerer... resulting in a corrupt file.. what can i do?06:02
_jeff_you mean knoqueror opens it in kate and it results in corrupt file?06:02
_jeff_that happens for me too06:02
robotgeekmzinz: right click download?06:02
mzinzrobotgeek: not a direct link..06:02
CheeseBurgerManmzinz: You could also try KGet.06:02
_jeff_kde-look right?06:02
mzinzhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1396906:02
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mzinz_jeff_: yeah06:02
_jeff_lol06:03
_jeff_i get the same problems06:03
CheeseBurgerManI use Firefox with FlashGot and KGet. ;)06:03
mzinzCheeseBurgerMan: well ive been using Konquerer.. maybe i should just use it for file browsing though06:03
_jeff_i love konqueror though06:03
mzinzCheeseBurgerMan: do most people use it for internet browsing as well?06:03
DeadS0uli'm all apt-get baby06:03
CheeseBurgerManmzinz: You can continue using Konqeuror06:03
_jeff_its so fast even with many tabs open06:04
_jeff_unlike firefox06:04
_jeff_;)06:04
CheeseBurgerManBut it doesn't have NoScript, ForecastFox, and all the other extensions I use. :)06:04
mzinzWell.. how can i download this .deb??06:04
DeadS0ul_jeff_:  *cough* ggi:porn *cough*06:04
_jeff_deads0ul: yeah console + apt-get rules over any package manager06:04
koshkonqueror uses about 1/10th the memory of firefox or less06:05
koshwhat does the noscript extension do?06:05
spariticus_rexDeadS0ul: what is with you and ggi?06:05
CheeseBurgerManAllows you to enable javascript for only certain sites.06:05
_jeff_deads0ul: *cough* WINK *cough*06:05
DeadS0ulweb shortcuts in general acutally06:05
_jeff_spart, ggi is google image search06:06
_jeff_ggi:porn is google image search for porn06:06
spariticus_rexi know that, but what is with your obsession with pr0n?06:07
spariticus_rexheh/06:07
_jeff_deads0ul: yakuake+apt-get/apt-cache=dominance06:07
DeadS0ulspariticus_rex: i'm a guy..06:07
_jeff_lol06:07
spariticus_rexso'm I...06:07
DeadS0ulwhats' yakuake?06:07
_jeff_its a console like the quake console06:08
_jeff_you press f12 and it slide in from the top of the screen06:08
DeadS0ulthis I gotta try out06:08
_jeff_you type ur command and click something else and it goes away06:08
_jeff_and it looks good06:08
_jeff_has pseudo transparency06:08
spariticus_rexwow! is it part of dapper repos?06:08
_jeff_i think you can find the .deb on kde-look06:09
_jeff_i dotn know06:09
CheeseBurgerManIt's in the breezy repos too...06:09
_jeff_search kde-look06:09
_jeff_lol err try the repos first06:09
_jeff_its pretty cool though06:09
spariticus_rexit is part of dapper repos!06:09
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spariticus_rexand at ~70k it's hard to resist.06:10
_jeff_also xcompmgr is cool too06:10
_jeff_you can get true transparency and shadows on windows06:10
DeadS0ulsweet jesus06:10
CheeseBurgerManWoooooooooooooow06:10
CheeseBurgerManThat's very cool. :)06:10
spariticus_rexif only it would work with my hardware...06:10
_jeff_and it doesnt suck or waste a lot of resources06:10
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spariticus_rexmy poor Radeon 7500 mobile won't handle it very well, i don't think06:10
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_jeff_lol im on a radeon M6 and it works pretty well06:11
_jeff_and my video card is lame06:11
_jeff_there isnt even a driver for my card06:11
spariticus_rexKnow of any good guides for getting 3D (with comp) working for my card?06:11
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_jeff_apt-cache search fglrx06:12
_jeff_try that06:12
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spariticus_rexahh, unfortunately fglrx doesn't support my graphics card...06:12
_jeff_lol it doesnt supprt mine either06:12
DeadS0uljust installed xcomp-mgar06:12
_jeff_::(06:12
DeadS0ulhow do I configure it?06:12
_jeff_you have to add some stuff to ur xorg.conf06:13
spariticus_rex_jeff_: and you have transparency that doesn't destroy your system's performance?06:13
_jeff_if anybody knows where i can find it i can tell you what to add06:13
_jeff_sparticus: it gets a bit slow with fullscreen windows, but otherwise its great06:13
DeadS0uli gotta go to work06:14
DeadS0ulI'll cya guys later06:14
spariticus_rexcya06:14
CheeseBurgerManLater06:14
_jeff_take it easy man06:14
_jeff_but06:14
_jeff_dude hold on06:14
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DeadS0ulhmm?06:14
_jeff_ur kwin will crash every now and then if you dont add that stuff to ur xorg.conf06:14
DjDarkmanhy can someone give me an example on how to unrar a file in the current directory?06:14
_jeff_when that happens you just have to get to a krun or console and type kwin06:15
DeadS0ulI see06:15
DeadS0uli'm gonna get late if I don't leave now, can you just e-mail me some simple instructions?06:15
_jeff_it will tell you what to add to ur xorg.conf file too06:15
_jeff_yeah06:15
DjDarkman(in the cli)06:15
_jeff_whats ur email06:15
DeadS0ulspawn57@yahoo.com06:15
_jeff_ok cool06:15
_jeff_take it easy06:15
DeadS0ulyou too06:15
DeadS0ulcya06:15
spariticus_rexDjDarkman: man unrar06:15
spariticus_rexthat will give you the instructions for use.06:16
DjDarkmanspariticus_rex: tried it but doesn`t have example06:16
spariticus_rexunrar e NAME.rar06:16
spariticus_rexI think...06:16
DjDarkmanohhh thanks spariticus_rex i wrote unrar -e name.rar06:17
spariticus_rexahh.06:17
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_jeff_does anybody know where the xorg.conf file is?06:22
robotgeek_jeff_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:22
robotgeek_jeff_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:22
robotgeekis also useful06:22
_jeff_what for?06:22
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spariticus_rexreconfiguring xorg if necessary.06:23
_jeff_ok cool06:23
_jeff_thanks06:23
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ExcaliBerhello06:27
ExcaliBerok i think i instaslled dapper06:27
ExcaliBeri dont knwo though06:27
ExcaliBeri did sudo apt-get update06:27
ExcaliBerthen sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base06:27
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suspecthello06:29
suspecti need help please06:29
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ExcaliberPLEASE!!!!!!!!06:29
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robotgeekExcaliber: help you with what?06:30
Excaliberdapper06:30
Excaliberi did the update06:30
robotgeekExcaliber: what with dapper? (did we not warn you earlier)06:30
Excalibersudo apt-get update06:30
Excaliberthen sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base06:30
robotgeekExcaliber: did you not download the cd iso?06:31
Excaliberno06:31
robotgeekExcaliber: cause you are not making sense at all06:31
Excaliberyeah06:31
Excaliberwhen i try burning it the linux crashesh06:31
Excalibercrashes06:31
koshthe entire linux box crashes when you burn a cd? it is not just the single program that is dieing?06:32
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Excaliberwhen i put cdimage burn06:34
Excaliberit crashes06:34
koshwhat crashes? just the cd program?06:34
Excaliberno the whole os06:34
Excaliberand is this upgrade real or beta?06:35
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koshhmm the only way I know of that trying to burn a cd would crash the os would be a hardware issue06:35
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Excaliberlike the mouse laggs06:36
Excaliberthe cursor start lagging06:36
Excaliberand then freezes06:36
Excaliberthatw as random06:36
Excaliberlol06:36
koshit sounds like a hardware issue06:37
Excaliberwill dapper come with kubuntu/06:38
Excaliber?06:38
koshthere will be a kubuntu for dapper yes06:38
Excalibercool06:39
Excaliberyou have dapper?06:40
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HobbseeExcaliber: there's one now...06:42
Hobbsee!+upgrade06:42
ubotuI guess upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html06:42
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hupp3lhey07:10
hupp3lhow can I access files from my windows partition?07:10
davixcan I make hddtemp work for a normal user and not root only?07:13
Hobbsee!+windowsdrives07:13
ubotuwindowsdrives is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f07:13
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Chakshi all07:16
Chakshow good is kubuntu to be as server ?07:16
Chaksthick server for thin clients07:17
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noaXesscan somebody check my xorg.conf http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/670751 , i want install dapper drake 6 fl6 on my asus notebook w1v, x starts but the monitor doesn't come up07:31
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noaXessin https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-42bafbcee7a10ed50f2d9016555557b9874be252 there is the aticonfig tool.. but where to get this?07:47
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atulhi I just upgraded to dapper, my kde taskbar is all screwed up. Can anyone help?07:56
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atulanybody here??08:00
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noaXessyea08:06
noaXessme08:06
noaXessi dunno about your problem.. cause i can't install dapper08:06
noaXessmy x11 want start :(08:07
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Hobbseehmmm...he left08:09
HobbseenoaXess: i think there was someone else with that problem...08:09
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noaXessHobbsee: yea?.. i just try now update/upgrade system from command and then try again..08:17
Hobbseedoes !xhangs fix it?08:17
Hobbsee!+xhangs08:17
ubotuIf the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority08:17
noaXessthe dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg works fine.. no errors..08:17
Hobbseeah ok08:17
noaXessHobbsee: after dpkg-reconf.. i can start kde and monitor is still blank... i can do a ctrl+alt+f1 and go back with alt+f8.. no change08:19
noaXessfist upgrade.. then test next steps..08:19
Hobbseehmmm08:19
Hobbseewhat type of video card do you have?08:19
noaXessHobbsee: on apt-get upgrade there are some xserver-xorg packages..08:20
Hobbseeyep, upgrade them then..08:20
noaXessato radeon mobility x700 128mb08:20
noaXess..ati..08:20
noaXessits an asus w1v notebook with max res. 1680x105008:20
noaXesshttp://www.asusnotebook.ch/detail_W1V.html08:21
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noaXessi want test it and write a notebook test wiki..08:21
mornfallit's biiig08:23
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Hobbseeah ok08:23
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noaXesshow can i check, which driver is installed and used?08:27
noaXess...which grafic driver..08:27
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PupenoHello.08:31
PupenoDo you know a program to convert between timezones ?08:31
Meatmethat;s like asking if danny has ever met an ass he can't rub his face in08:33
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HobbseeMeatme: that's inappropriate08:35
HobbseePupeno: check timeanddate.com08:35
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callieyo08:35
calliewot up?08:36
calliewho's lost X?08:36
HobbseenoaXess: found the person who had trouble earlier08:36
mornfallMeatme: what are you up to?08:36
mornfallPupeno: kde clock can show you current time in different zones btw08:37
callieas i recall all i did Hobbsee was delete .Xauthority and .ICEauthority and regenerate my xorg.conf, that seemed to sort it all out for me08:38
Hobbseeah ok08:38
Pupenomornfall: I know, I use that. But someone tells me something happens at 7pm CET and I dan't have a clue even what CET is.08:38
mornfallPupeno: central european time -- mine :)08:38
HobbseePupeno: timeanddate.com08:38
calliecentral european time Pupeno08:38
Hobbsee:P08:38
mornfallwell, CEST now :)08:38
callielol08:38
mornfall(central european summer time)08:38
mornfalldaylight savings and all08:39
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mornfallGMT+208:39
Pupenotimeanddate.com doesn't know what CET is.08:39
mornfallGMT+1 during winter08:39
Hobbseedrat08:39
callieweird that i happened to look at xchat just now Hobbsee08:39
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noaXessHobbsee: who?08:41
HobbseenoaXess: callie08:42
noaXesscallie: hi.. you had problem with an ati grafic to start X?08:42
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callienoaXess, no im running Nvidia here08:43
calliejust out of curiosity noaXess did it happen after update/dist-upgrade?08:44
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noaXesscallie: now, fresh install dapper drake 6, it starts, x starts but monitor still blank08:45
callieah, dont think i can help you then noaXess, im running 5.10 here, tried #ubuntu+1 ?08:46
Hobbseeoh i thought you were using dapper08:47
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noaXesscallie: ok.. thx08:49
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Dasnipa`woot woot for #ubuntu+2   yay edgy eft08:51
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nalioth_zZzDasnipa`: there will be no #ubuntu+208:58
Dasnipa`oh there already is,,, apparently "tritium_ made me do it" says the topic08:59
Meatmemornfall Meatme: what are you up to?09:00
Meatmesearching of course09:01
Meatmehey, anyone play with the alpha1 release of Simply_Mepis?09:01
Meatmetrying to figure out if it is possible to retain the ability to change resolutions after installing the nvidia driver09:03
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Meatmeso far, no luck09:03
Meatmeand damned if i know why09:04
Meatmewell, i know why09:04
Meatmelooking for a work around09:04
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tylerHow do I make the clock in Kubuntu not use military time?09:14
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BlankCtyler: right click on the clock and select 'Dat and time format'09:23
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C-O-L-TWhere is Kubuntu/Ubuntu BETA, today is April the 20th09:48
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C-O-L-TRiddell: Where is Kubuntu BETA? Today is April the 20th09:51
C-O-L-T??09:51
HobbseeC-O-L-T: Riddell is likely asleep09:51
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C-O-L-THobbsee: what do you know about Kubuntu BETA?09:52
HobbseeC-O-L-T: it should be out imminently, i think.09:52
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C-O-L-THobbsee: I am asking it because I am going after this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule, and today Dapper Drake Beta should be out09:54
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MrKev1n!dapper release09:55
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MrKev1n09:56
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HobbseeC-O-L-T: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperBeta is the most up to date thing i've seen09:56
MrKev1n!dapper09:56
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)09:56
MrKev1nC-O-L-T use the tinyurl link!09:57
HobbseeC-O-L-T: ubuntu beta isnt out yet either. just wait09:58
C-O-L-THobbsee: now appeared the beta version. SO PEOPLE AROUND HERE KUBUNTU BETA IS NOW OUT09:59
Hobbseewhat?10:00
HobbseeC-O-L-T: where's the direct link for that?10:00
C-O-L-THobbsee: go down on the page and you can download the beta versiom10:00
Hobbseeno, those current links point to flight 610:00
Hobbseebesides, i'ts only 8am UTC - that's still ages in the day for it to be released10:00
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C-O-L-THobbsee: I am in Romania you know that is why here Beta should be out. In a few hours it will be there because they made the Beta pages look for this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta?highlight=%28beta%2910:02
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C-O-L-THobbsee: I have not looked at the iso images but I think that soon they change the address10:02
C-O-L-THobbsee: it was a small mistake10:02
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C-O-L-T)10:02
C-O-L-T:)10:02
C-O-L-THobbsee: at the top of the page writes work in progress so they are making the page now probably, loading iso's and so on10:04
MrKev1nubuntu release code is 6-06 representing 6th month release in 200610:04
MrKev1nthe beta release for dapppper has been out for some months... the frozen stable release will be on 1st June10:05
HobbseeC-O-L-T: no, the ubuntu pages are in UTC time, as people are from all over the world, and it's only 8am in UTC time.  it was said it would be some time on the 20th10:05
HobbseeRiddell: is in the UK, and probably isnt even awake yet.10:05
C-O-L-TMrKev1n: no you are mistaken the things. There were out just Flight releases, this is the BETA testing release10:06
C-O-L-THobbsee: I see, I understand I know that now in UK is around 8 o' clock here is 11 o' clock10:07
Hobbseeyes10:07
Hobbseehere, it's 6pm 20/410:07
MrKev1nC-O-L-T: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule10:08
C-O-L-THobbsee: anyway they are making the page's for both derivatives right now so soon we will see the iso's over there10:08
Hobbseeyes10:08
C-O-L-TMrKev1n: I have read thousand times, look at it April the 20th Beta release and look to these pages if you don't believe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta?highlight=%28beta%2910:09
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C-O-L-THobbsee: I am excited about the beta, would like to try cause I switched to fedora :)10:09
HobbseeC-O-L-T: you can grab flight 6, update, and you'll have close to the beta10:09
Hobbseethey're all just snapshots, and you can go from any snapshot, update, and get to the latest version...10:10
C-O-L-THobbsee: I know, but the main problem of it, I had flight 5 but always crashed when I made documents in oo.org so it was not a stable flight for me, that is why I decided to switch to fedora which was the first stable distro having GNOME 2.14 and KDE 3.510:11
C-O-L-THobbsee: I would like to try just the live cd of the beta10:11
Hobbseebeta will have it's problems too...10:11
C-O-L-THobbsee: I know, the final release will be the perfect one10:12
chavoC-O-L-T, there are daily iso releases also10:12
chavohttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20060420/10:12
C-O-L-THobbsee: I really like this channel because here people don't kick you if you talk with somebody about another distro :)10:12
Hobbseehehe10:12
chavono were just secretly plotting our revenge in the background10:13
chavooops10:13
C-O-L-THobbsee: so as I see now everybody is around Dapper Beta, not I am the only one interested in it :)10:13
chavoC-O-L-T, I've been running dapper for months10:14
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C-O-L-Tchavo: that is neither the BETA release nor the FINAL-STABLE release10:15
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chavogood lord man stop shouting at me10:16
chavoI dont make the damn thing10:16
chavoI dont owe you anything buddy10:16
C-O-L-Tchavo: I am not shouting, I just highlighted the main points ideas :). Don't be angry, I am sorry10:16
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chavowell the point were all trying to make is that BETA is just a name, dapper is very stable10:17
C-O-L-Tchavo: Dapper is not a stable distribution, now shapes up, beta is just a step after flights. The final release will be shipped out at 1 June10:18
C-O-L-T!dapper10:18
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)10:18
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chavook thanks for clearing things up buddy10:19
C-O-L-Tchavo: look at this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule10:19
C-O-L-Tchavo: where are you from buddy :)?10:21
MrKev1nC-O-L-T: what are you after ? there have been BETA releases for some time. The final release (stable) release is 1st June10:21
HobbseeMrKev1n: true, but they've been called different things10:21
MrKev1n:)10:21
C-O-L-TMrKev1n:  no it is not the same, there were Flight releases10:22
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C-O-L-Tnot BETA :)10:22
C-O-L-TMrKev1n: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule10:22
C-O-L-TMrKev1n:  BETA unites all the developements during Flight series10:22
MrKev1ni just did an upgrade from breezy to dapper and have been getting upgrades each day... i have not used a flight or a beta or whatever... and i have had no problems for the last month!10:23
C-O-L-TMrKev1n: probably, but have not you noticed that you get 100 updates per day?10:23
MrKev1nyes... so what6?10:23
MrKev1nthats good as far as i am concerned..10:24
MrKev1ni pointed you to that last link 16 mins earlier10:24
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MrKev1nC-O-L-T: I am just trying to help you... i will leave here for a while so that my stress levels dont go any higher...:(10:26
C-O-L-TMrKev1n: I upgraded too, but for be the upgrade crashed and I needed to reinstall everything, and then I installed Flight 5 and crashed a few times at opening OO.org Writer10:26
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chavoMrKev1n, just /ignore him10:26
C-O-L-Tchavo: I did not want to hurt anybody, but he does not understands the point10:26
Hobbseechavo: it seems weird.  some of us have no problems, yet others cant boot.10:27
Hobbseeor have a blank screen when tehy login10:28
C-O-L-TWe were talking to Hobbsee about the Beta release and he said always not 100% right things for me, and I just tried to explain him like to you that is why i highlighted a few words you too10:28
C-O-L-THobbsee: that is true for some works dapper for some can not even upgrade like I10:28
C-O-L-TD10:28
C-O-L-T:D10:28
Hobbseewhy cant you upgrade?10:29
C-O-L-THobbsee: upgrade started and then at a moment I got an error and than everything crashed10:29
Hobbseewhat error?10:29
C-O-L-THobbsee: I don't know, I don't remember, it was a month ago10:30
Hobbseewell it's likely been fixed by nwo10:30
Hobbseedid you file a bug for it?10:30
C-O-L-THobbsee:  nope :)10:30
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RiddellHobbsee: hey :)10:31
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Hobbseemorning Riddell - how are you going today?10:32
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HobbseeRiddell: do we have a current ETA for the beta?10:32
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GMullencan someone sugest a noob guide to kubuntu10:36
Tm_Twiki.ubuntu.com :)10:36
HobbseeGMullen: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UserDocumentation10:36
Tm_T!cli10:36
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org10:36
GMullenthx Hobb10:38
C-O-L-THobbsee: thanks for everything, need to go now, bye10:38
Hobbseebye10:39
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bpmcan anybody help me to sync my windows mobile 5 device with kubuntu?10:58
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GMullencan kubuntu read ntfs?11:12
Tm_Tsure11:12
GMullenok then i must not be doing this right11:12
Eulchenbut not write :(11:12
Tm_TEulchen: that can too, not with warranty, but yes, mostly works11:12
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Eulchenah good to know11:13
bobyfixeri love kubuntu11:13
GMulleni'm trying to get some video files from my XP pro partion11:13
Tm_TEulchen: yeah, "not with warranty" means anything can happens with it :p11:13
GMullenbut what i think is it mounted "folder" is locked11:13
Eulchengmullen just look that your windows partition is mounted and enabled11:14
Tm_TGMullen: file rights are wrong, you have to add umask(?) parameter to mount/fstab11:14
Eulchengo system and enable11:14
Tm_TEulchen: it's not always that simple ;)11:14
GMullen....11:14
GMullenheh11:15
Tm_TGMullen: how you mounted it?11:15
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Tm_T!ntfs11:15
uboturumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions11:15
GMulleni didn't11:15
Tm_T;)11:15
GMullenbut it wont let me mount11:15
Tm_TGMullen: ubotu knows lots of cool things just listen ;)11:15
GMullensaying already mounted11:15
GMullenkk11:15
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Eulchenlook in kdesktop kmenu system            go to file and mount points in admin mode you can set it right11:17
Eulchenmake it that you own the windows partition11:17
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GMullenok11:19
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GMullenno usable windows/mac partitions found11:20
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EulchenGmullen have u looked in kdesktop system?11:20
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GMullenno idea what that is11:22
Eulchenyou have  k-menu topmost left11:23
GMullenyes11:23
Eulchengo system settings11:23
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GMullenok11:23
Eulchenthen to disk and file settings  you must switch to admin11:24
GMullenok11:24
Eulchenyour windows is hda111:24
GMullensda1 yes11:24
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Eulchenok modify it that you and your group owns it ;)11:25
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GMullenthank you11:26
Eulchenyou welcome11:26
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Eulchenmedia11:27
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HobbseeEulchen: please kill that spam11:31
Eulchenyup11:31
GMullencan linux play *.wmv11:32
Eulchenim forbidden to spam ask hobsee11:32
GMullennever11:33
GMullen...11:33
GMullennevermind11:33
GMullengoogle's working again11:34
HobbseeEulchen: i meant the noatun messages :P11:34
HobbseenoaXess: ping?11:35
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_tylerI need a .aiz file to use as a plugin for this karabra thing.  On kde-look.org, it gave me a tarred folder... how can i uncompress and .aiz it?11:36
Eulchenyou can choose from right mouse menu unpack or use the tarr command in termina11:37
vinboyhow do I restart my X server without logging out??11:38
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e-coderanybody there?11:47
e-coderneed help with my xorg config11:47
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slow-motionhallo12:00
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noiesmowhen I try to apt-get install nvidia-glx i'm am incountering a dpkg-divert from when I had ati card but i am unable to remove diversion is there a way to force install or modify the diversions file in /var/lib/dpkg without getting unexpected EOF12:10
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KabalTaskbar V2 - Is there a DEB file anywhere? Does anyone have this software?12:19
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nirhello12:21
nirwhere i can get the most updated source.list configuration ?12:22
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otter42Can anyone help with a compiler problem?12:34
otter42#define DATA_TYPE CV_32FC112:34
otter42I get: gcc-3.4: installation problem, cannot exec `as'12:34
otter42(whoops. Disregard the #define DATA_TYPE...)12:34
otter42I've done research online, and nothing seems to give me an answer. I have installed 3.4 from adept, and I've used it to compile other things.12:35
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sYniehello12:41
sYnieis it possible to download the kernel sources (2.6.15-20 of dapper) with the same config, as the kernel-binary ?12:42
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Kabalapt-get moo12:47
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Kabal...."Have you mooed today?"...12:47
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munzirHi, I have 3 pc's behind a router. two linux and one windows. the router automagically made nat rules like01:09
munzirIdx Type Interface       Outside Address                Inside Address                 Use01:09
munzir  1 NAPT Internet        96.50.33.43:51978             192.168.1.251:3142             101:09
munzirwhere that internal ip is the windows one. Why those nat rules are set to windows only?01:09
visik7uh ?01:11
visik7u can redirect an external port only to one internal machine01:11
munzirvisik7: yes the question which machine is choosen by default? I didn't made those rules01:13
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visik7no one u choose probably by a web panel01:14
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kubuntutaotaoktorrent crashed,signal 6 (SIGABRT)01:16
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munzirvisik7: no for sure I didn't. Unless windows convince the router to do this somehow!01:33
visik7munzir: maybe upnp01:38
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munzirvisik7: maybe. I will flush all those rules then and guess this won't interrupt the internet connection, right?01:40
visik7is a linux router ?01:40
munzirvisik7: the router is a speedtouch 585i01:41
visik7yes but has linux inside ?01:41
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MrFaberhi all02:16
Hobbseehi02:16
MrFaberhi Hobbsee02:17
MrFaberI have problems with KDE and the Display section02:17
MrFaberSince I have changed the monitor power saving under display02:17
MrFabermy kde session starts with wrong resolution (1024x768 instead of 1366x768)02:17
MrFaberand I can only change resolution with krandrtray02:17
MrFaberThe Display sections allows me only 1024 so it doesn't uses correct DPMS and no xorg02:18
MrFaberxorg.conf02:18
MrFaberWhat can I do?02:18
MrFaberIf I delete my user profile KDE starts with correct solution02:18
MrFaberand KDM always has the correct one02:18
Hobbseenot sure on that, sorry02:19
MrFabernp, thanks02:20
MrFaberIt is very weird, hm I should ask in Dapper channel02:20
MrFaberDoes anyone knows where Display settings get saved?02:21
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Excaliberhello02:24
Excaliberi need help02:26
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Excaliberi installed dappper but i can't go on the desktop02:26
Excaliberhello?02:27
Excaliberhello02:27
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MrFaberExcaliber: I would join #ubuntu+102:29
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Excaliberomg02:31
Excaliberthey not helping02:31
MrFaberExcaliber: they are no full time workers for the price you paid for ubuntu02:32
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MrFaberExcaliber: and Dapper is not stable02:33
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Hobbsee!tell Excaliber about ask02:36
Hobbseethat might help you, in getting help02:36
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milestonehi all02:43
milestonei have my kicker bar on top of the screen and an external windowbar on the bottom02:44
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milestoneis it possible to place other applets than the window bar itself into the windowbar? to get my kicker bar a little clearer?02:45
milestonei cannot dsrag the applets down02:45
milestonethey remain on the kicker bar02:45
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milestoneany help is highly appreciated02:50
Hobbseemilestone: right click, move?02:52
milestoneHobbsee: as i said the remain on the main bar02:52
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_gonzohello03:02
MrFaberhi03:02
MrFaberI have found a solution for my problem03:02
_gonzoI seek a net-snmp advanced user03:02
_gonzo:)03:02
MrFaberHobbsee: it was .kde/share/config/displayconfigrc03:02
HobbseeMrFaber: ah....okay...03:02
MrFaberHobbsee: don't know why KDE has its own Display sections which doesn't work with xorg.conf together03:03
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=== Danamania is having a small konsole issue. I used to run debian, and starting konsole there as "konsole --noxft" would start it up without antialiased text. The same konsole option seems to be there in my kubuntu install (6.06), but running "konsole --noxft" still starts up with antialiased text - any ideas where I'm going wrong?
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Danamaniaahh. it's a KDE 3.5+ bug. all good =). http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11465803:24
UbugtuKDE bug 114658 in general "Konsole --noxft switch doesn't work" [Normal,New] 03:24
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pooh22hi all03:29
Hobbseehi03:30
pooh22is there an easy way to get wpa configured in dapper flight 6?03:30
pooh22the wireless system settings only talks about encryption, but not which WEP/WPA/WPA2 (but itlooks like WEP is implied)03:30
pooh22wpasupplicant is installed03:31
Hobbseepooh22: install knetworkmanager, and do it from tehre03:31
pooh22Hobbsee, tnx I'll check that out03:31
kubuntutaotaodoes somebody know why ktorrent is always crashed?03:32
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Hobbseekubuntutaotao: define "always crashed" - what do you do to produce the crash?03:32
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Drulo all03:35
Hobbseehi Dru03:35
kubuntutaotaoHobbsee:program KTorrent(ktorrent) had crashed,cause signal 6 (SIGABRT)03:35
Hobbseecan you pastebin the backtrace?03:35
Hobbsee(the other tab, on that dialog)03:35
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Hobbsee!pastebin03:35
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126903:35
pooh22Hobbsee, WOW! that's brilliant!!! :-)03:36
Hobbseepooh22: i know!03:36
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kubuntutaotaoHobbsee:when ktorrent start03:36
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Druanyone know where I can get the latest Wine .deb package as the wine repository still has .1103:36
Hobbseekubuntutaotao: okay, and can you paste the debug/backtrace thingo to the pastebin please03:36
Hobbsee!+wine03:36
ubotuWine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run the majority of windows programs. To get wine installed, download http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wine/wine_0.9.10-winehq1-2_i386.deb then follow this guide to installing it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585 More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq03:36
HobbseeDru: try winehq.com03:37
kubuntutaotaoHobbsee:where?03:37
DruOK just I looked on the WineHQ & the deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/ they give still has .11 if you look in it03:38
Hobbseekubuntutaotao: the pastebin?  pastebin.com03:38
HobbseeDru: what's the latest?03:42
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Dru.1203:43
Hobbseeah ok03:43
HobbseeDru: compile it?03:43
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Hobbsee!+compile03:45
ubotuA nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)03:45
HobbseeDru: ^03:45
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Drumany thanks03:46
Druonly been testing Linux for 2 weeks lol, been using PC for 18 years so time to learn something new03:47
Hobbseehehe03:47
Hobbseeor just wait, either way03:47
Drubest to try things imho, or you never learn the juicy stuff03:47
Hobbseetrue...then again, do you want to know?  :P03:48
Snake[Sleep] Dru: learn now so that your up to speed with *nix when vista hell is released upon the planet ;)03:48
Druhave only fobar my install once so far03:48
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Drumy HW cannot handle M$ Vista so will not be going there03:49
Snake[Sleep] No ones hardware can03:49
Druonly thing stopping me converting my main PC is the missus using it03:50
Snake[Sleep] except dedicated PC gamers that invest $800 into their rig each time a new vid card is out03:50
Hobbseehehe03:50
Hobbseeonly once?  that's pathetic03:50
DruXP2000 768Mb 646GB HD space03:50
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=== Snake[Sleep] runs oOOOooooo nooo I only got 64gigs of a ram!! I can play HL2 and Fear at full settings but vistas not gonna run!!!!!!!!!
Druthe SCSI room heater machine03:51
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Druhas 6HDs inside03:51
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HobbseeSnake[Sleep] : hehe03:51
Snake[Sleep] I got a prescott...not the coolest PC intel ever built03:51
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Snake[Sleep] prc**03:52
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Drubuilt this machine from scratch & added window etc03:52
Snake[Sleep] Dru: same03:52
smlis an installed 'live cd' the same result as just installing the 'install cd' ?03:52
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Snake[Word] sml: how does one install a live cd (except dapper, in which case, yes)03:52
DruLian-Li case atacked with a jigsaw very nerve racking03:52
condorall at all03:53
bpmis ther a kubuntu kernel wich supports loadable modules?03:53
condorSomebody can help me?03:53
smlSnake: yes i recall dapper has the install icon on the desktop03:53
condorI'm don't speak english very well! !03:54
Snake[Word] sml: yes, dapper live disks use ubuntu, those are the same as an install03:54
Snake[Word] errrr not ubuntu, I ment expresso03:54
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thoreauputic!it03:54
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:54
Snake[Word] sml: be warned its still in deep development, and failure rate is generally pretty high >.<03:54
condori have installed Kubuntu 5.10 in my laptop but I can't listen to music..I don't know the reason03:54
smlSnake .... cool and one more question please :) ... if i just install updates to flight 5 will that give me flight 6 ?03:55
Snake[Word] sml: yep03:55
smlSnake ... cool .. i'll cancel my flight 6 download.03:55
DruI still dont know what anything sounds like as I am testing on a Compaq EN SFF PIII 450 & I have not found a distro that recognises the onboard sound03:56
Snake[Word] sml: just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it should actually bring you PAST flight 6, and into beta03:56
HobbseeDru: in alsamixer, is everything turned up?  what about in kmix?  check that nothing's muted03:57
Snake[Word] alright im out03:57
Snake[Word] pz03:57
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Drusee there is a new Debian released with some major bug fixes RC203:58
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xwolf-which program should i install to have .rar files created and unpacked?03:59
h3sp4wnrar03:59
Dru.tar you mean04:00
xwolf-no, .rar04:00
justanotheruseri think sudo updatedb & doesn't work here (it says bash: mypassword: command not found )04:00
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DeadS0ulgod dammit, kubuntu doesn't read my /etc/modprobe.d/asound config on boot time for some god damn reason04:01
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maximushi all04:11
maximushaving a problem with kopete in breezy04:11
maximusit keeps crashing each time I go to Settings -> configure04:12
maximusany ideas?04:12
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Hobbseemaximus: there's a bug already from this, you're welcome to contribute to it04:12
Hobbseemaximus: https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/3765704:13
UbugtuMalone bug 37657 in kdenetwork kopete "Kopete Configure Crash" [Normal,Confirmed] 04:13
_wombatKOffice any betta than OpenOffice?04:13
_wombatoh hi and salutations trend setters04:14
maximusHobbsee: hmm i guess no fix yet eh04:14
maximusmaybe i should just upgrade to dapper04:15
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Druhere you go what you think http://www.dru.own.it04:15
Drubeen playing about04:15
dereks_wombat: thats a matter of opinion04:16
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_wombatlol @ honeypot u lil fag04:16
maximus?04:17
_wombatyou need a DNS injection04:17
dereksLOL04:17
Hobbsee!+coc04:18
ubotufrom memory, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/04:18
Hobbseeoh hi dereks04:18
derekshey Hobbsee04:18
_wombatits an ok distro, I been playing with "damn small" ... its another ok distro.. f that was polite04:19
dereks_wombat: ok, whats your point? they serve 2 different purposes04:20
_wombatyeah04:20
_wombatthey do04:20
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_wombat"damn small" geared for older harware, but interestingly they learnt how to get tjhe OS to run entirely from RAM.. which.. maakes it lightning fast on any i38604:22
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_wombatubuntu has a more.. conventional approach... its, nice04:22
_wombatlol04:22
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_wombatany aussies in the house04:23
Hobbsee_wombat: yeah04:24
_wombatmoderator bots is a bit 198404:24
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_wombatthis must be american er something04:24
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MukmasterOh yea04:25
dereks_wombat: they wouldn't be needed if it wasn't for trolls04:25
MukmasterYea04:25
Hobbseedarn trolls04:25
dereksnot mentioning names04:25
_wombattrolls? whats that04:25
_wombatyou mean spamers?04:26
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MukmasterOh ok here goes04:26
MukmasterDoes Kubuntu have any openGL suport04:27
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MukmasterI know i doesnt have directX becuse thats an M$ only thing04:27
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_wombatprolly need nvidia drivers for X , yeah they're out for debian and this is a clone04:27
MukmasterSweet04:28
MukmasterHmm04:28
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_wombatso hows ur breezy badger?04:34
_wombatffs, what a pick up line04:34
milestoneCan I have more than one kicker bar at the same time?04:34
milestoneon on top and one at the bottom?04:34
Hobbseemilestone: yes, right click on kicker, add panel04:35
_wombatdunno, where's the techies?04:35
Mgrvlndigikam wont detect my camera and using /media:/sda1 as a mount point wont work either. any ideas?04:35
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_wombatwhere's that millionaire guy.. recall him from space top answer the questions04:35
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_wombatnite04:36
HobbseeMgrvln: use /media/sda104:36
Mgrvlnk04:36
Danamaniazzz here too04:36
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_wombatsame, you all aussie?04:36
_wombati have a spare pillow04:37
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MgrvlnHobbsee nope04:37
_wombatyeah you are04:37
milestoneHobbsee thanx04:38
milestonefinally i figured it out04:38
_wombatalthough Dana is american04:38
Danamaniawhich dana?04:38
_wombatthe name04:38
_wombathey was there many fixes to Breezy Badger... lol, my ol man would turn in his grave04:39
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_wombati just spent half a day installing that pesky Badger04:40
Danamaniaor eastern european04:40
_wombatI was getting corrupt installations and all sorts04:40
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_wombatyeah true east europe.. you are fropm there04:40
Danamaniarelatives on my dads side are04:41
_wombateastern block country?04:41
_wombat..u know like east germany and them04:41
_wombatbefore the re-unification04:42
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_wombatyeah so I got it installed fine anywat04:42
_wombatanyway04:42
_wombathad to do it package by package with apt-get or it fell over04:43
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munzirHi, my /etc/hosts contains a line of 127.0.1.1, why not 127.0.0.1? what's this ip for?04:43
_wombatlocalhost04:44
_wombatthats you silly04:44
_wombat127.0.0.1 is for localhost, good for testing stuff on a local server04:44
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Kamping_Kaiser_wombat, i dont think 'you silly' is quite accurate04:44
Kamping_Kaiserhes asking about 1.104:44
_wombatalso known as a dhcp loopback address04:44
Kamping_Kaisernot 0.104:45
_wombatbut yeah localhost04:45
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munzirKamping_Kaiser: thax for you politeness04:45
Kamping_Kaisermunzir, i have to be, the ops know me in all my guises ;)04:45
_wombat?welcome04:46
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munzir_wombat: where is it that 1.1 is also localhost documented?04:46
_wombatdude I dunno, type localjost in wikipedia and read away04:47
Kamping_Kaisermunzir, the 127.0.0.x range is reserved for loopbacks and whatever you want to put there. afaik.04:47
_wombatlocalhost04:47
Kamping_Kaiser1.1 isnt the standard loopback though04:47
munzirKamping_Kaiser: yes 127.0.0.x but what about 127.0.x.x?04:47
_wombatnope its usually 127.0.0.1 infact i haven't ever seen it as anything else04:48
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Kamping_Kaisermunzir, hte whole 127 range04:48
munzirKamping_Kaiser: do you have dapper installed? can you check your hosts file?04:48
Kamping_Kaiserits um. /24 ?04:48
Kamping_Kaisermunzir, i do have dapper, but both are updated breezys, both at 0.104:48
Kamping_Kaiseri have never seen loopback on 1.1 by default... but maybe i'm weird04:49
_wombatis dapper a better deal than breezy?04:49
munzirKamping_Kaiser: yes, you are right. all the 127 range seems to be lo04:49
Kamping_Kaiser_wombat, imo yes, if only from the "openoffice works now" perspective04:49
munzir_wombat: definitely04:50
munzir_wombat: In linux world every  day carries new software features that someone really miss. Leave alone 8 months perios04:51
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munzirnetworkmanager is really great04:51
_wombatstrange, i just downloaded this distro but it turned out to be Breezy04:52
_wombatfrom the main site04:52
dereks_wombat: breezy is the current release04:52
Kamping_Kaiser_wombat, most likely - untill dapper is stable04:52
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_wombatah ok, I have open office on "damn small" already  .. those guys update regular04:53
francescaCiao a tutti04:54
_wombatlol.. nite all04:54
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dereks_wombat: ubuntu has a 6month release cycle, so you get updated packages every 6 months04:54
_wombatyeah04:55
francescaqualc1 parla italiano?04:55
_wombati seen that, lol.. patience04:55
Druwell I installed 5.10 & did the system update, fair few packages updated04:55
Kamping_Kaiser!fr04:55
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:55
Kamping_Kaiseroops04:56
Kamping_Kaiser!it04:56
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!04:56
francescakubuntu!!04:56
Kamping_KaiserDru, about 80mb probalby ;)04:56
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Kamping_Kaiserfrancesca, english here, or another chan please :)04:57
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kubuntutaotaodoes somebody know why my kaffeine can't start04:58
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francescaI speak English..05:00
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joey^^why isn't enemy-territory in the apt repositories?05:05
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ubuntu_hello05:05
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ubuntu_uhmm can i install ubuntu from the live cd?05:05
ubuntu_cuz i dontt have ubuntu installation cd05:06
joey^^ubuntu_: i don't think you can, but it might be possible05:06
slawekwhich is the newest kernel for kubuntu ?05:06
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freeflying-ibookubuntu_: you can have a try , do a backup firstly05:06
ubuntu_how?05:06
_SoS_ooohhhhhhhhhhh05:07
ubuntu_ummm05:07
dereksubuntu_: you can, but with dapper not breezy (i believe)05:07
_SoS_helllo05:07
joey^^slawek: linuz-2.6.12-9-38605:07
freeflying-ibookubuntu_: backup what you wanna05:07
ubuntu_i dont wanna backup anything05:08
ubuntu_sorry05:08
joey^^slawek: linuz-2.6.12-10-386*05:08
joey^^slawek: thats my latest one atleast05:08
freeflying-ibookubuntu_: then just do intall05:08
ubuntu_install05:08
ubuntu_whats the command05:08
ubuntu_for the terminal/05:08
ubuntu_?05:08
joey^^sudo apt-get install <package>05:09
ubuntu_hm?05:09
dereksubuntu_: you don't want to backup anything?05:09
ubuntu_im on  LIVE CD05:09
ubuntu_ubuntu05:09
dereksyou should ALWAYS backup your data when installing an os05:09
freeflying-ibookubuntu you can run it from menu " install permentally05:09
ubuntu_where/05:09
joey^^ubuntu_: why not just download the installation cd?05:10
ubuntu_i cant05:10
ubuntu_im on the live cd05:10
joey^^why not?05:10
dereksubuntu_: backup before you start05:10
ubuntu_and i dont have a os05:10
slawek2.6.16.9 :)05:10
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joey^^you can download it in the live cd05:10
ubuntu_i dont have a operating system05:10
dereksjoey^^: thats the dapper cd i assume05:10
dereksubuntu_: so?05:10
ubuntu_so can you send me a link/05:10
ubuntu_?05:10
slaweki should have chacked it sooner :) http://www.kernel.org/05:10
dereksubuntu_: you know when you repartition, you will lose all your datat05:11
ubuntu_i tried dapper earlier05:11
dereks*data05:11
joey^^http://ubuntu.hands.com/releases/kubuntu/5.10/05:11
joey^^select your arch etc05:11
ubuntu_save to disk?05:12
joey^^yes05:12
joey^^i think the live cd uses your ram as a virtual harddisk05:12
joey^^but i could be wrong05:12
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joey^^you can burn the iso with k3b or something05:14
joey^^or cdrecord/growisofs05:14
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mitakkahi please somebody help me, i need arial font cp 1251 for Mplayer, because all the subtitles in my language are made on Windows :( and so the ciryllic layout is 1251 and i only see ^(^%$##^&()^%^%  and unfortunately i do not speak this language :)05:19
Cvawhttp://bigtitsroundasses.bangbros1.com/gal/298/p/bavideopost/  http://www.sog10.com/gallery01/c2100k/index.html05:20
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joey^^!tell Cvaw about fonts05:23
mitakkacvaw???05:23
mindspin!tel mitakka about fonts05:24
ubotumindspin: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:24
mindspin!tell mitakka about fonts05:25
joey^^!list keys repositories05:25
ubotujoey^^: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:25
mitakkaok05:25
mitakkathe hope will be with me05:25
joey^^!repositories05:25
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource05:25
mitakkai know about repozitories and i will add these05:27
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mitakkahave i put "deb" in the first panel??05:28
mitakkacolumn05:28
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cigahi05:36
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joey^^howdy05:37
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mitakkaoooo from 10 minutes i am talking with a irc bot05:37
mitakka:(((((05:37
cigaI suspended my box to ram with kpowersave. I don't know how to come back from there... I pressed everything, nothing worked.05:38
mitakkafinally a real human being :)))05:38
joey^^:P05:38
cigaa bot is not good enough?05:39
ciga:)05:39
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joey^^anyone know why enemy-territory isn't in the apt repositories?05:39
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mitakkayes i dont chat every day, i am skype fan and it take me a while to fuck it off05:40
mitakkawhy you need that05:41
mitakkacompiling rulzzzzzzzzz05:41
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ganymed_hallo05:41
mitakkaguten tag :)))05:42
ganymed_i cannot play any video anymore, regardless of the player used. x just restarts... has anybody ever had this problem?05:42
mitakkareinstall05:42
ganymed_mitakka: of what? i have reinstalled all important x packages05:43
joey^^hallo ganymed: you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:43
mitakkaof kubuntu05:43
mitakka:)))05:43
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mitakkayou will spend more time trying to fix the problem than to reinstall05:44
ubuntu_hi05:44
ubuntu_iw as just wondering05:44
morrowganymed_: if its fglrx, try the option "VideoOverlay" "on"05:44
ubuntu_how do i mount a iso image>?05:44
ubuntu_on ubuntu?05:44
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mitakkafrom cd-rom???05:44
ubuntu_no05:45
ubuntu_iso image05:45
ubuntu_i downloaded it05:45
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ubuntu_gentoo minimal installer05:45
ubuntu_is that a full ionstallation?05:45
joey^^sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 <iso> <mount point>05:45
mitakkathe easiest way is to write it to a cd05:45
ubuntu_but will a minimal installer install it permenantly?05:45
ubuntu_?05:47
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Excaliberwel05:47
joey^^ubuntu_: it will probably not install all extra packages, so you will have to manually install them05:47
Excaliberwhat will a minimal installer do?05:47
mitakkaminimal installation05:47
mitakka:)05:47
Excaliberbut will i ahvea  a kernel?05:47
Excaliberhave*05:48
joey^^do a base installation i imagine05:48
h3sp4wnExcaliber: It will give you just enough to build you own kernel and install portage05:48
h3sp4wnExcaliber05:48
Excaliberyes?05:48
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h3sp4wn:you use emerge to install the rest05:48
joey^^portage is gentoo lol05:48
Excaliberlol05:48
joey^^this is debian based, we use apt :)05:48
Excaliber= )05:49
Excaliberbut will i have kernel?05:49
joey^^yes05:49
Excaliberif i do minimal installation05:49
Excaliber?05:49
ganymed_morrow: thx, i was just busy05:49
h3sp4wnubuntu_ (who changed his name to Excaliber) was talking about a gentoo minimal installer that he downloaded05:49
Excaliberyes05:49
Excaliberi wanna know if i will have kernel desktop?05:50
thoreauputicExcaliber: without a kernel, you would have no OS :)05:50
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Excaliberkde desktop i meant05:50
Excaliberwill i have a desktop05:50
thoreauputicah05:50
Excalibernot terminal/05:50
Excaliber?05:50
GameCathi - can anyone tell me how to control the display power management while the machine is sitting waiting for someone to log in?05:50
thoreauputicExcaliber: the minimal install is cli only05:50
joey^^i doubt you will get loads of packages with minimal cd. just get full cd if you are worried05:50
Excaliberwhat is cli?05:50
joey^^command line interface05:51
thoreauputicExcaliber: to get KDE you would need to do  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:51
Excaliberon gentoo?05:51
thoreauputicExcaliber: so if you want KDE, install Kubuntu05:51
Excaliberwhy?05:51
Excaliberwith gentoo?05:51
thoreauputicerm - this is Ubuntu/Kubuntu05:51
joey^^^^05:51
joey^^lol05:51
ganymed_morrow: it is on, i'll switch it off. i have read it has sth. to do with the xv extension and the second monitor being activated but not plugged in05:51
thoreauputicExcaliber: to ask gento questions, /join #gentoo05:52
morrowganymed_: deactivate it if you dont use the second monitor05:52
Excaliber /join #gentoo05:52
thoreauputicExcaliber: without the leading space05:52
thoreauputic:)05:52
Excaliberok05:52
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noaXess_kubuntuhow can i build a deb package from sources?05:54
ganymed_morrow: well, not always, but sometimes... i guess it's the ati driver05:54
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vgoelhi all...is there any way to update breezy to dapper without burning a cd?  ie over the net?05:56
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ganymed_ok, i also have problems with not being able to choose a keyboard model/layout in kcontrol... any ideas?05:57
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tixethello06:01
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Excaliberwhere do i mount it?06:01
Excaliberwhat mount point?06:01
Excaliberi saved it to the desktop06:01
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Excalibersudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 <iso> <Desktop>?06:02
Excaliberlike that?06:02
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Excaliberwell?06:03
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Excaliberthe iso is on the desktop06:03
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Excaliberhello?06:04
BroxtorI'm having some issues with my mouse in Dapper. I have one thumb button which I like to use. I put "Option" "Buttons" "6" and "Zaxismapping" "5 6" in my xorg.conf.06:05
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vgeBroxtor: what mouse is it?06:05
BroxtorThen when I run xmodmap -e "pointer=1 2 3 6 4 5" I get the error message saying I should have 10 buttons instead of 6.06:05
Excaliberya help him right06:06
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Excaliber?06:06
BroxtorThis used to work in Suse 9.3 though06:06
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Broxtorvge: It's a Logitech MouseMan Wheel06:06
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hiasllhi! anyone know an application to synchronise kontact with a mobile?06:07
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cigais not it kitchensync?06:08
Broxtorhiasll: Kitchensync seems to work for some people. I never got it work with my SE k750i though.06:08
iqondo i have to do anything special to get firefox to use the plastik theme?06:09
cigaiqon: I think you have the chance to force kde themes on gtk apps.06:09
hiasllBroxtor: well, i have a k750i too. :-/06:09
Broxtor:-)06:09
iqonciga: how?06:10
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Broxtorhiasll: I tried in Suse. Not yet in Kubuntu, so it might work.06:10
cigakcontrol - colors - apply colors to non-KDE applications.06:10
cigaiqon: I hope this is for you.06:10
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tixetagur06:12
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glennhello all :-)06:12
vgeBroxtor: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=429098 <-- the last post helps?06:13
iqonciga: i'll give it a shot06:13
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glenndoes n e 1 know how I can run apt-get at the same time as adept-updater?06:13
vgehups, i guess not, sry06:13
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cigaglenn: I think you can not.06:14
glennthats a bummer :-)06:14
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glenni am using 5.10 breezy and would like to juice up my graphics with new ver kde and also enlightenment - how do i install theses?06:15
Broxtorvge: Thanks anyway. When I give the command xmodmap -pp it tells me that I have 10 pointer buttons defined. Where can this be stored besides in xorg.conf?06:15
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cigaglenn: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php06:16
glennsweet :-) ta06:16
vgeBroxtor: i dont know other place, but i dont know that mutch :)06:16
joey^^# Example sources.list for Ubuntu 5.10 "The Breezy Badger" release06:17
joey^^06:17
joey^^ ## All officially supported packages, including security- and other updates06:17
joey^^ deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted06:17
joey^^ deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted06:17
joey^^ deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted06:17
joey^^06:17
joey^^ ## The source pacakges06:17
joey^^ #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted06:17
joey^^ #deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted06:17
joey^^ #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted06:17
joey^^06:17
bhnais there a problem in with adept in dapper? i have only an error-message. "...do apt-setup and apt-get update ..."06:17
joey^^ ## All community supported packages, including security- and other updates06:17
joey^^ deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse06:17
joey^^ deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe multiverse06:17
joey^^ deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates universe multiverse06:18
joey^^06:18
cigabhna: it works fine for me.06:18
NoUse!pastebin06:18
ubotupastebin is, like, totally, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126906:18
joey^^ ## The source pacakges06:18
joey^^ #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse06:18
cigajoey^^: please don't do this.06:18
joey^^ #deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe multiverse06:18
joey^^ #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates universe multiverse06:18
joey^^oops06:18
joey^^grr, konversation and it's copy/paste :/06:18
joey^^sorry for spam guys06:18
bhnajoey^^: http://kubuntu.pastbin.com06:18
joey^^ye, i said it was accident06:18
glennwoah06:18
bhnaciga flight 6 or daily release?06:18
cigabhna: I've upgraded from breezy. Now I have the freshest.06:19
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bhnaciga: i have the daily cd from 20.04.2006 (today) and adept won't work06:20
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cigabhna: I have upgrade 3 packages with adept 20 minutes ago.06:20
cigabhna: maybe try flight 6 and upgrade from there...06:21
bhnaciga: maybe, thank you.06:21
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glennis there a quick easy command that could almalgamate both ubuntu install stuff and kubuntu install stuff-- like both base systems in one?06:22
glennalmost and everything install?06:22
glennlike apt-get install everything06:22
Tm_Tglenn: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop"06:23
Tm_Tlike that? ;)06:23
glennyeah06:23
cigayup, that's what I wanted to suggest06:23
glenndoes it work?06:23
ciga:)06:23
cigatry and see :)06:23
glennwicked --- thanks06:23
glennu guys rule06:23
Tm_TI don't see why wouldn't06:23
glenntru06:23
Tm_T...rule and work =)06:23
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ciga:)06:23
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Tm_Tanyway, seems to be bed time to me, good night :) ->06:24
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glennthanks for your help peeps - will catch ya l8er - now install on home pc - chow - nemesis06:28
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gan|y|medhallo06:35
gan|y|meddoes anybody here have an ati card06:35
gan|y|med?06:35
DeadS0ulnvidia here =D06:36
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_jeffhey gangsters06:41
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_jeffany last.fm listeners here?06:42
jpatrickme06:42
gan|y|medok, i'll ask anyway. i have installed the newest drivers from ati... any clue where fglrxconfig has gone?06:42
gan|y|medhow do i contact a staffer?06:43
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uniq gan|y|med saffer?06:45
cigaxorg-driver-fglrx: /usr/bin/aticonfig06:46
cigagan|y|med: maybe06:46
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gan|y|medwell, i wanted to register my nick so that i can talk in #kde... my nick is given, so i tried this one -  given, too. now i have to conact an irc staffer according to the how to...06:47
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uniqgan|y|med: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#helpfromstaff06:50
gan|y|medthx06:50
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cow_2001beagled is started everytime i login through kdm into kde, how do i disable it?06:53
jpatrickcow_2001: do you have Kerry?06:54
cow_2001i've set it to not start every time06:55
cow_2001kerry, that is06:57
jpatrickhmm06:58
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cow_2001kerry have an option to start beagled every login, but sadly there's no option to do the opposite06:59
jpatrick_jeff: http://www.last.fm/user/antidragon/06:59
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ralfHello in kubuntu-land. Anyone uses kino / dvgrab on dapper (ppc)?07:03
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MacAnthonynot on ppc07:05
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uniqI use dapper on ppc.. but not dvgrab/kino.07:06
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_jeffjpatrick: do you have the player working on kubuntu?07:10
jpatrick_jeff: yes07:10
_jeffuhm07:12
_jeffhow?07:12
_jeffi have the player now, but when i paste a lastfm: url into it it just closes07:12
_jeffand how do your register the player as a protocol?07:13
_jeffin konqueror07:13
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Snake[Word] Hey jpatrick07:13
jpatrickhey Snake[Word] 07:14
Snake[Word] wtf is word..07:14
Snake[Word] its supposed to be work07:14
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jpatrick_jeff: :/ did it by itself here07:14
Snake__jpatrick: you got a PPC?07:16
jpatrickNo07:16
jpatrickx8607:16
Snake__Oh okay :)07:16
Snake__I was gonna tell you to ship me it :P07:17
_jeffhmm07:17
_jeffdid you have to compile anything07:17
_jeff?07:17
jpatrickNo07:17
jpatrickthere's a deb package07:17
_jeffhmmmmm07:17
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_jeffwhere?07:17
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jpatrick_jeff: wget http://people.debian.org/~pxt/lastfm/lastfm_1.1.4-1ubuntu1_i386.deb07:20
_jefflol thanks07:21
_jeffXD07:21
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jpatrick"XD" now there's something I only see spanish people do07:21
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Flosofthey07:26
Flosoftis there a asterisk package for kubuntu?07:26
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DeadS0ulholy crap07:28
DeadS0ulI finally got my soundcards configured properly07:28
DeadS0ulFlosoft: yeah, might bein the multiverse repositaries though07:29
Flosoftand asterisk-addons?07:29
noteventimeFlosoft, seems so07:29
_jeffjpatrick: im trying to install the .deb but it needs libqt4-core and libwqt4-gui, but those packages seem to be broken07:30
noteventimeFlosoft, I'll paste the list07:30
noteventime!pastebin07:30
ubotu[pastebin]  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126907:30
jpatrick_jeff: :/ sorry, then07:30
_jeffjpatrick:spanish and canadians then07:30
_jeffjpatrick: how did you do it?07:30
_jeffyou didnt have that problem?07:31
jpatrickI'm on Dapper07:31
noteventimeFlosoft: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1261007:31
_jeffpoop07:31
Flosoftthx noteventime07:31
noteventimenp :D07:31
_jeffone more reason to upgrade :(07:31
noteventimeYay, upgrade to the tango-icenset package :D07:31
noteventimeI love tango-iconset :D07:32
kubuntutaotao07:32
noteventimebtw, when do you think the edgy repos will be "usefull" that is, installable without removing KDE :D07:33
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morrowhmmm will wpa be available while installing in dapper?07:36
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visik7morrow: seems to be - it's in main07:37
visik7anyway why while ?07:37
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morrowvisik7: but not yet in flight 6 :)07:38
visik7flight6 isn't final dapper07:38
morrowyeah, i know.. was just wondering if the next install will be with network :)07:39
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visik7morrow: btw beta of dapper is out07:44
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visik7try it07:44
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morrowperfekt.. just burned flight6 and started an install :)07:46
morrow.oO( Murphy )07:46
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BroxtorXMMS plays mp3's in Dapper, Amarok doesn't. Any pointers on how to solve that?07:48
jpatrickBroxtor: that's odd07:48
Broxtorand is there no longer a w32codecs package?07:49
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parannot really. xmms use its own plugins to decode mp3. amarok uses either xine or gstreamer i think07:50
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gfhjhttp://www.ilove-movies.com/main.html http://cool-porn.biz/welivetogether/galleries/dyke1010/vp.html07:50
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Broxtorparan: I have gstreamer installed07:51
Snake__!ops07:52
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee07:52
jpatrickactually it's !kops here07:52
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jdong|laptopubotu: wow... that's pinging a lot of people :)07:52
ubotujdong|laptop: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:52
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Snake__nalioth: perhaps ban the porn guy?07:53
Snake__gfhj07:53
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jdong|laptopis it just me, or is freenode really getting spammed recently?07:53
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Snake__jdong|laptop: theyre gettin slammed07:53
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jpatrickjdong|laptop: some bot attacks07:53
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jdong|laptopwonderful...07:53
ralf Sorry, back now. I have probs with kino / dvgrab. No DV or errors with avc. I have no /dev/ieee entries, is that ok?07:53
chumphriesgreetings, anyone know why  kdesktop_lock would fail to unlock, even though I am typing my password correctly? and caps lock isn't on etc, it just isn't unlocking07:54
chumphriesdapper07:54
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Snake__gj nalioth :)07:55
naliothattention all, the porn spambots are being chased down at this time07:55
Tm_Tnalioth: ?07:55
Tm_Taaah07:55
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jpatrickTm_T: :P you didn't follow the links did ya?07:56
Tm_Tofcourse not07:56
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Tm_Tjpatrick: somehow I never follow strange links if I don't have told to check by someone I can trust07:57
jpatrickTm_T: so what's the "aah" for? :) ;)07:57
paranBroxtor: sorry, i don't run amarok myself so I can't really help07:57
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Snake__there was 1 hot chick07:57
Snake__lol07:57
Tm_Tjpatrick: well, I noticed link, it's spam 99% sure07:57
Tm_Tjpatrick: I do read urls ;)07:58
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Broxtorwhat's the deal with the good, the bad and the ugly gstreamer packages?08:03
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naliothBroxtor: i suspect you'll get a better answer in #ubuntu+108:04
morrowhmm ok.. the beta has wpa on the cd but still not while installing08:05
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Broxtornalioth: thnx, will give it a try.08:05
Jhoahttp://g.pantywash.com/galleries/rackandblack/051024carmen/vp.html http://hornystarlet.com/yt/135/vdpst.htm08:05
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suspecthello08:07
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suspecti just wanted to know how to open a .tar.gz file08:07
suspectwith the terminal08:07
_spiritzsuspect: tar xzvf file.tar.gz08:08
chumphrieshttp://www.kde-forum.org/post/55541/lastpost.html is a fix to my problem, where i couldn't log back in08:08
_spiritzsuspect: or installe 'mc' to browse it and extract it08:08
Tm_Tbah, another spammer08:08
suspectok it showed me allt he files inside it08:09
suspectim trying to install flash player 708:09
_spiritzsuspect: no, it extracted all the files :)08:09
suspectextracted to where?08:09
suspecttmp?08:09
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suspect= 008:09
_spiritzto current dir/your_package_name08:09
suspect= )08:09
suspectwhere is that?08:09
_spiritzcurrent dir means `where you are right now`08:10
_spiritz'pwd' will should you where you are :)08:10
suspectim on my desktop08:10
_spiritzso it has been extracted on your desktop08:11
suspectok08:11
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suspect./flashplayer-installer08:12
suspecttells me to type that08:13
suspectbut i get an error08:13
suspectbash: ./flashplayer-installer: No such file or directory08:13
_spiritzyou should not install it this way08:13
suspecthow shoud i then?08:13
_spiritzyou should get a ubuntu newbie guide and follow it08:13
suspectlol08:13
suspectcaling me a newbie?08:13
suspectlol08:13
Snake__suspect: newbie isnt a bad thing, we were all nubs once, dont take it offensivly ;)08:14
suspecti know08:14
suspectim a newbie08:14
_spiritzI'm sorry if that mean being rude, but being unable to extract a package sounds like newbie to me *at least to linux*08:14
Snake__Agreed :P08:14
Snake__:D08:14
suspectand im proud!!08:14
suspect= D08:14
Snake__suspect: have you seen this:08:14
Snake__!flash08:14
ubotuInstallation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:14
suspect= )08:14
suspectseen whar?08:14
Snake__suspect: that page ^^08:15
suspecti seen it before i just forgot08:15
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suspectbrb08:15
Dasnipa`woot woot for #ubuntu+208:20
me2winDasnipa`: lol, i was camping in dapper+108:20
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Snake__wtf is a eft??08:21
jpatrickyoung newt08:22
me2winyoung newt08:22
Dasnipa`an eft is a youthful newt08:22
Snake__...08:22
Snake__Are you kidding me??08:22
me2winBAHAHAHAH!08:22
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Dasnipa`when it first leaved the stream and explores its surrounding area08:22
me2winok guys08:22
jpatrickme2win, Dasnipa`: beat you to it :) ;)08:22
me2winlets stop kidding sNake08:22
Dasnipa`leaves*08:22
Snake__why are they going from a well dressed dragon...to a newt08:22
me2winjpatrick: lol08:22
jpatrickbecause we can live underwater08:23
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me2winjpatrick: is that to say you are a newt?08:24
jpatrickSnake__: reborn TM08:24
jpatrickme2win: no08:24
Snake__...08:24
suspectok im back08:25
Snake__o no08:25
suspecti have to get the file they telling me to put the command for?08:25
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suspectReading package lists... Done08:27
suspectBuilding dependency tree... Done08:27
suspectE: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla08:27
suspectthats what happened08:27
suspectand sorry for spamming.08:27
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_spiritzhave u enabled additonnal repositories?08:27
robotgeeksuspect: dapper? please read the Help -> Kubuntu Desktop GUide08:28
Chryseuslibflash-mozplugin flashplugin-nonfree08:28
suspecti have breezy08:30
robotgeeksuspect, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:31
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_nemesishello every1 :-)08:32
suspecti saw that08:32
suspecti tried the commands08:32
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suspectand didnt work08:32
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_nemesiscould n e 1 tell me - updating to xorg 7 + getting nice 3d effects on desktop etc - howto? nvidia 6600gt?08:33
_nemesisand how to tell what version of x managers are current?08:34
lakibobsguys... anybody here chatting in DALNET server?08:34
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suspectis there anyway i can download songs in kubuntu?08:34
jpatricksuspect: illegally?08:34
suspectyeah08:34
suspectyeah08:35
suspectso is there anyways?08:35
justanotherusersuspect: yes there are p2p clients, but i think you're on your own in that08:36
suspectoh ok08:36
jpatrickbuy the cds08:36
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me2winiits not illegal in all countries08:38
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justanotherusertrue, but buying is the right thing todo right?08:39
_spiritzwho cares?08:39
_nemesisand how to tell what version of x managers are current?08:39
_spiritzis there someone here that can dare saying he has no *illegal* mp3/ogg files around?08:39
suspecthey how do i install .deb files?08:40
suspectwhats the command08:40
suspecti forgot08:40
justanotherusersuspect: sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb08:40
mornfallRiddell: *poke*08:40
mornfallerr08:40
suspectit didnt work08:41
justanotheruser_spiritz: there is a difference in what i do and what i think i shouldn't advertise. But that's only me....08:41
suspectjust many many errors08:41
suspectin the desktop the file is called lmms_0.1.4-1_i386.deb08:42
_spiritzjustanotheruser: true but I don't think that channel is not that much of a top secret one08:42
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suspectso can someone show me the exact command?????08:42
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Excaliberso08:43
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suspectso uhmm whats the command?08:43
justanotherusersuspect: cd ~/Desktop [enter]   sudo dpkg -i lmms_0.1.4-1_i386.deb08:44
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suspectsame errors08:45
suspectdidn't work08:45
jpatricksudo apt-get install -f08:45
jpatrickI'm off08:46
suspectk08:46
suspectl8tr08:46
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psychiccyberfreaI need help installing on my friend's laptop08:48
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psychiccyberfreahello?08:49
HymnToLife!tell psychiccyberfrea about hello08:49
psychiccyberfrea???08:49
HymnToLifeI was basically just fooling around08:50
HymnToLifeyou have any question ?08:50
psychiccyberfreaok I need help installing kubuntu on my friend's laptop08:50
Nomad411!h26408:50
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Nomad41108:50
_nemesishow do i tell what kde version i am running?08:50
HymnToLifewhat's the problem ?08:50
Nomad411!h.26408:50
ubotuNomad411: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:50
HymnToLife_nemesis> Help > About KDE on basically whichever KDE app if I remmeber well08:51
_nemesisthanx :-)08:51
psychiccyberfreaI install it w/o it being hooked up to a netsork because it just dosn't seem to be able to work with the ethernet card, so now I get error messages about there being no installable kernel in apt and stuff08:51
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HymnToLifefunny08:52
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naibedHello08:52
psychiccyberfreaI mean a network08:52
HymnToLifedo you choose "do not configure the network at this time" during install ?08:52
psychiccyberfreayeah08:52
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HymnToLifeit just shouldn't tell you that08:53
HymnToLifeall the packages needed to install are on the CD08:54
psychiccyberfreayeah lemmie try installing it quick08:54
psychiccyberfreaOk the CD boots and I press enter08:54
Yokaloshguys, i am having some problems since i installed kubuntu, i started off with just a server type version of dapper and everything went ok, i then had gdm and gnome all running fine so i wanted to test kubuntu, so i uninstalled all of that, now on the latest kernel it hangs at 'uncompressing linux kernel', so i tested the one before that and it hangs at a kubuntu screen and then finally i tested it with the oldest kernel i have 08:54
psychiccyberfreanow it is booting08:54
psychiccyberfreaset the defaults and regions...08:55
psychiccyberfreait says network autoconfig failed08:56
HymnToLifehmm sorry, gotta go08:56
HymnToLifeyeah08:56
HymnToLifechoose "do not configure the network"08:56
psychiccyberfreaso I hit do not config now08:56
psychiccyberfreahostname is ryanslappy08:56
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HymnToLifeand afterwards, do you do anything unusual during install08:56
psychiccyberfreaidk...08:56
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HymnToLifeor maybe your CD is bad08:56
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HymnToLifehave you tried with another one ?08:57
psychiccyberfreano I got them from shipit08:57
HymnToLife*well08:57
HymnToLifeshipit CDs _can_ be bad too08:57
psychiccyberfreaok lemmie try that08:57
HymnToLifegota go now, see ya08:57
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psychiccyberfreawhen's dapper drake supposed to be relesed again?09:00
naibedwhen it's ready09:01
psychiccyberfreaoh09:01
psychiccyberfreajust makin sure09:01
naibedI'm using it already for about 2 months and works pretty well09:01
henryk_anyone can tell me how can i change breeze to dapper, without reinstalation?09:02
psychiccyberfreaI wish I could get my m4p music to work on my linux box. Anyone know any good programs for that type thing09:03
Riddellmornfall: hi09:03
naibedhenryk_, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change any breezy to dapper, then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade09:03
naibedhenryk_, oh, and hello ..09:03
psychiccyberfreahenryk_ try adding the dapper repositories, then  mark all upgrades09:03
psychiccyberfreaand remove the breezy repositories09:04
henryk_naibed, thank you and hi09:04
psychiccyberfreayeah thout sounds right09:04
psychiccyberfreadoes that sound right?09:05
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psychiccyberfreaok I need help09:09
psychiccyberfreawhen I try to install the base system, it says that it was unable to install the selected kernal09:09
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henryk_ok, looks like it work. man i hope this wasn't stupid enough to get on bash.org09:12
psychiccyberfreaI need help again09:13
psychiccyberfreaIt asks me what kernel to install09:14
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eyeburnCan I ask a brife question?09:22
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jpatrickyes09:23
SkrotFFSOfcourse09:23
eyeburnI'm now runking my kubuntu on ha 386 kernel, but I have a P(IV) 2.8GHz Hypertread prossesor. Sould I use the one with or without SMP at the end of the to 686 kernerls?09:25
admrlquanta plus, nvu, scream are there any more html/css or whatever else web software out atm09:26
eyeburnruning*09:26
admrlthat are good09:26
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eyeburndoes anyone know?09:30
jpatrickyour choice09:31
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eyeburnokey, I well not crash my linux if I chouse wrong?09:33
paraneyeburn: both will work. the smp kernel will use hyperthreading, the other one will not09:34
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paraneyeburn: or you can install both. they will all show up in the boot loader next reboot09:36
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NRG88hiasll, what do i have to write in the fstab, if i want to automount for example ext2 partition hdb1 to /media/D ?09:37
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NRG88hm09:38
NRG88darn xchat09:38
NRG88sorry hiasll, only wanted to write hi09:38
kammehi, I have a problem with amarok, whenever I try to play an .mp3 it just immediatly tells me the playlist is done... what can I do about it?09:38
klugez!mp309:38
Glin|JolWinamp  5.20 Stopped09:38
ubotu[mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:38
eyeburnparan: thank you =)09:38
kammeklugez: package not available...09:40
klugezwhich package?09:40
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kammelibxine-extracodecs09:40
kammeIn 6.06, amarok needs libxine-extracodecs for mp3 support.09:40
klugezSection: multiverse/libs09:41
klugezhave you multiverse enabled?09:41
klugezthat's where i've installed libxine-extracodecs from09:41
kammeyes09:41
kammeunless I fooled around09:41
paranNRG88: "/dev/hdb1 /media/D ext2 defaults 0 2" (but you should consider using ext3 instead of good old ext2)09:42
klugezNouda:1 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse libxine-extracodecs 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 [1029kB] 09:42
kammehmm, I only have universe....09:42
NRG88paran, it is for an old machine09:42
klugezit seems to be still there09:42
paranNRG88: ext3 works fine on older machines as well09:43
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NRG88i know performance...09:43
NRG88i know, it's not much...09:43
NRG88but it is something09:43
kammeklugez: thanks, I enabled multiverse again and now it's downloading :)09:44
klugezkamme: no problem09:44
_ubuntukbuntu rocks!09:45
kammeaha, mp3 sound :)09:45
kammethanks again!09:45
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_ubuntuthink suse is about to get kicked from my box :)09:46
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Dasnipa`UROZZZZ09:46
uroshi all - i have somehow lost the "location" toolbar in konqueror - it is on, but i see no icons or fields - actually nothing - in it...09:46
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uroslast thing i was doing with it was adjusting some settings to which i got by rightclicking on the toolbar - since it is no longer there, i cannot reverse it. any clues n1?09:48
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lakiboobsguys... what's the equivalent command for tracert in kubuntu09:49
lakiboobs?09:49
_spiritztraceroute09:49
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lakiboobsit says : traceroute command not found09:51
lakiboobsy?09:51
Dasnipa`apt-get install traceroute09:51
lakiboobsok09:51
Dasnipa`+ sudo09:51
lakiboobsthanks09:51
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eyeburnIs there some diferece between this two? Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV *  /   Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.  I did chouse the one with * was that wrong?09:53
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paxhow many packages are installed by kubuntu, default?09:54
OdyXpax: why that question ?09:54
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uroslast try - figured out what i did - right click on toolbar and changed "orientation" to "flat". the toolbar disappeared. i have no idea now how to get it back, since i can not get back into this "toolbar menu" . help please ;)09:55
paxOdyX: abviously because I want to know.09:55
OdyXpax: OK...09:55
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paulvolkHello09:55
Dasnipa`boo konq09:55
paraneyeburn: just install the package that is named "linux-image-686" or "linux-image-686-smp".09:56
paulvolkdoes anyone here know of a good voice regognition program for Kubuntu that I could download?09:56
OdyXpax: actually, on mine, 1446 installed, 18671 available.09:56
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eyeburnparan: thanks09:56
paxOdyX: that's from a fresh install, no additions?09:56
OdyXpax: largly added... but not so much... :D09:56
OdyXpax: really, I don't know...09:57
OdyXit's lower than that.09:57
leagrishello09:57
paxOdyX: great, thanks. Over the years it seems like all distros are growing hungry for space :-)09:58
OdyXpax: number of packages is non-significant09:58
paulvolkdoes anyone here know of a good voice regognition program for Kubuntu that I could download?09:58
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paxto some point, correct. however, it is a good indicator of size suggested/required.09:59
paulvolkrecognition*09:59
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paxapt-cache search is no good?09:59
OdyXpax:  heard 500 MiB for ubuntu-server was reasonnable09:59
paxwell yeah, no doubt.10:00
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m_tadeugood night everyone10:00
m_tadeui'm having a lot of trouble connecting through a pcmcia card10:00
leagriscan someone help sort out with unmet broken kde depencies with latest Kubuntu Dapper 6.06 update ?10:00
m_tadeukppp reports the modem is busy10:01
m_tadeucan anyone help?10:01
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NoUseleagris have you tried running 'apt-get -f install' ?10:02
leagrisyes10:03
NoUsewhat dep is broken?10:04
leagrisIt was installed from DVD then upgraded. It worked ok this morning. Then tonight upgrade brought brocken dependencies on all kde related packages10:04
NoUseyou installed from the Dapper DVD or the Breezy DVD?10:05
vgei hate when everything i need works, somebody can help me to break something? :(10:05
leagrisI tryed changing repository archive.ubuntu fr.archive and local ISP mirror no luck. Installed from Dapper DVD10:05
NoUseleagris run this: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6666 -O /etc/apt/sources.list'10:06
NoUseoops, forget the single quote at the end10:06
leagrisIll try this sources.list and tell you NoUse thanks10:07
NoUseleagris after than runs try an apt-get update upgrade10:07
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m_tadeuanyone?...i'm unable to run wvdial on a pcmcia modem...can anyone help, plz?10:10
NoUsem_tadeu you might try asking in #ubuntu, as long as it isnt a KDE specific question10:13
leagrisNoUse, didn't help see here: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/67204010:13
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NoUseleagris does apt-get update run without a problem?10:14
m_tadeuNoUse, thanx...already am, but its quite complicated since there are a lot of questions at the same time :S10:14
leagrisno errors from apt-get update NoUse10:15
nemesisneed help with shoutcast feed- my sound is working - amorok is playing but no sound?10:15
paulvolkIs it worth upgrading now to Kubuntu 6.06?10:15
nemesiswhat is wrong?10:15
jpatrickpaulvolk: yes10:15
NoUseleagris what is the ouput of apt-get -f install?10:15
paulvolkOk I am on Kubuntu 5. what ever the latest is how would I upgrade?10:16
leagrisNoUse, very same output as upgrade10:16
nemesisn e ideas? why i cant hear shoutcast - but can hear other sounds?10:17
paulvolkCan someone tell me how to upgrade?10:17
NoUse!tell paulvolk about upgrade10:18
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lakiboobsguys... how can i access my windows file in another partition? i'm on a dual boot system.10:18
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NoUseleagris try: sudo dpkg --configure -a10:18
_jeffhey gangsters10:19
OdyXpaulvolk: replace every "breezy" with "dapper" in /etc/apt/sources.list and update and dist-upgarde10:19
OdyXs/upgarde/upgrade10:19
NoUse!tell lakiboobs about ntfs10:19
_jeffshouldnt that be in obotu or something?10:19
leagrisNoUse, same output with dpkg --configure -a10:19
paulvolkok10:19
OdyX_jeff: this should10:19
OdyX!ntfs10:19
_jefflol10:19
NoUseleagris I'm out of ideas10:19
ubotuntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions10:19
_jeffhow do you add something to obotu?10:19
OdyX!update10:20
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, OdyX10:20
OdyX!dapper10:20
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)10:20
_jeffno10:20
_jeffhow to upgrade to dapper10:20
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OdyX!update to dapper10:20
ubotuOdyX: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:20
_jefflol10:20
_jeffhow do you add it?10:20
NoUseOdyX its under !upgrade10:21
OdyX_jeff: I don't know....10:21
OdyX!upgrade10:21
ubotufrom memory, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html10:21
nemesisn e ideas? why i cant hear shoutcast - but can hear other sounds?10:21
OdyXOK. Thanks NoUse10:21
NoUseleagris it might be a temporary thing, dapper does break from time to time10:22
OdyXNoUse: it's beta now... and has not broken for a looong time now.10:22
NoUseOdyX tell that the leagris :-)10:23
leagrisNoUse, it only affect Kde related packages in dapper. Anyone else enconter this trouble tonight ?10:23
OdyXleagris: what happened to you ?10:23
NoUseOdyX http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/67204010:23
leagrisOdyX, Todays updates for all Kde packages are broken dependencies in Dapper10:24
paulvolkOk the dist upgrader will do Kubuntu to not just Ubuntu?10:24
OdyXleagris: well... it works here.... and it's no more than just waiting...10:24
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leagrisOdyX, Did you update upgrade today ?10:24
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OdyXleagris: add kubuntu.no-ip.org :D it's more bleeding-edge (Kubuntu dev's repo)10:25
OdyXleagris: I just did.10:25
nemesisok - n e ideas- amarok does not output sound from shoutcast - but xmms does????????10:25
OdyXleagris: but I have kubuntu.no-ip.org10:25
NoUsepaulvolk ubuntu is the same as kubuntu, just different GUI installed by default10:25
paulvolkoh lol I should have known that10:25
OdyXleagris: dunno if it changes... but it's not broken here.10:25
leagrisOdyX, is tha a Kubuntu team maintained repos or some kind hacker repos ?10:25
OdyXleagris: it's Tonio_ 's repos.10:26
leagrisOdyX, Ill try this10:26
OdyXleagris: it's only deb's waiting for main...10:27
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paulvolkIs Upgrading to Drapper a good Idea?10:28
OdyXpaulvolk: as you feel it.10:29
OdyXpaulvolk: it's very stable now...10:29
OdyXno worry10:29
paulvolkok10:30
_jeffawesome10:30
_jeffim gonna download the live cd tonight10:30
paulvolkI want to but I also don't want my system to crash10:30
OdyXpaulvolk: the idea when moving release date was that the community should be able to switch on "previous release date"10:30
_jeffno nobody wants that10:30
OdyXpaulvolk: I had no "system crash" for a looong time"10:30
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_jeffnice10:30
_jeffbut are you a guru?10:30
chowsapalanyone have any tips on why my sound works on some boots and not others?10:31
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leagrisIll try to remove everything kde related and restart from kubuntu-desktop dependency tree10:31
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leagrissee you soon (hopefully). Still have gnome in case of troubles ;D10:32
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morrowhmmm baghira still crashes my firefox.. weird10:32
OdyX_jeff: what do you mean ?10:32
OdyX_jeff: I'm more than normal user.10:32
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_jeffodyx: ok10:35
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OdyX_jeff: what did you mean by "are you a guru" ?10:36
_jeffodyx: i figured that an experienced user would have fewer problems than a fairly average user10:36
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slow-motionre10:36
_jeffa guru is sombody who has mastered something10:36
_jeffas far as i know10:36
OdyX_jeff: well... I feel well with KDE and Ubuntu, but no more... no dev no nothing...10:36
C-O-L-TUbuntu - Linux for human beings!!!10:37
_jeffoh10:37
_jefflol yeha10:37
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_jeffi wanna get into dev10:37
_jeffmake linux programs and what not10:37
tsdgeos_jeff: then start10:37
_jeffhelp improve others10:37
tsdgeosis easy (if you know some programming of course=10:37
_jefftsdgeos: thanks for the advice10:38
tsdgeoswe at kde are very open10:38
_jeffi know a bit of c++ in windows10:38
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C-O-L-TUbuntu - Linux for human beings!!!10:38
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_jeffbut have no idea how to start in ubuntu10:38
tsdgeoswell10:38
tsdgeosinstall gcc/g++10:38
tsdgeos+ some editor you like (or IDE even)10:39
tsdgeosand then find someone you want to help on :D10:39
_jeffcan i do it in kate?10:39
OdyX_jeff: sure... any editor10:39
_jeffor do i need some visual studio-esque app?10:39
_jeffok10:39
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OdyX_jeff: but there is kdevelop310:39
tsdgeos_jeff: i usually use kate10:39
_jeffok10:40
tsdgeosbut you can use kdevelop10:40
_jeffwhat kind of app would i start with?10:40
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_jefftrying to make10:40
tsdgeosor emacs or vim or eclipse (what boss makes me use on work) or wathever10:40
_jeffin windows i would make apps that ran in dos from the command line10:40
_jeffis it easy to make terminal apps?10:40
jpatrickyes10:41
_jeffawesome10:41
chowsapalyou could probably run those same programs letter for letter10:41
tsdgeos_jeff: but gui apps are nicer :-)10:41
_jeffis there a beginners guide or tutorial site anywhere?10:41
_jeffyeah10:41
_jeffbut theres something about the terminal that i really like10:41
makhi everyone. can someone help me with a little resolution problem please?10:42
tsdgeosmak: explain more10:42
_jeffnalioth:i know the basic commands and how to use the terminal already10:42
jpatrick_jeff: what language?10:43
makok here it is: i want to change my resolution to a higher one but i havnt checked more than the standard boxes during install.. how can i change the res?10:43
tsdgeos_jeff: then the same C++ you use on widnows should work almost on linux10:43
jpatrickmak: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:43
_jeffhmm10:44
_jeffjpatrick: c++10:44
makok ill try.. thx10:44
_jeffi can call all the same libraries and everything?10:44
_jeffcmath and what have you?10:44
jpatrickstandard ones10:44
_jeffok10:44
_jeffso lets say i type up my whole c++ app in kate10:45
_jeffhow do i check if it works?10:45
makok works.. thank you jpatrick!10:45
_jeffhow do i run it?10:45
jpatrickcompile it10:45
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_jefftheres an option in kate that allows you to compile what you've typed?10:46
jpatrickNo10:46
tsdgeos_jeff: nope, then you have 3 options10:46
jpatrickbut there is in kdevelop310:46
_jeffok10:46
tsdgeosyou learn how to use automake/autoconf for generating makefiles automatically10:46
tsdgeosyou create your makefile by hand10:46
tsdgeosor use kdevelop or something that creates the makefiles itself10:46
_jeffok10:47
_jeffwhat do you need makefiles for?10:47
tsdgeosto call make and compile the program :D10:47
Chousukefor easier building of software project.10:47
Chousuke+s10:47
tsdgeosobviously you can call g++ at hand10:47
tsdgeosbut that's crazy10:47
Chousukemake is your friend <310:47
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_jefflol ok10:48
paulvolkHow do you start Konquorer as root?10:48
_jeffsounds like i should start with kdevelop10:48
Chousukewould you rather: g++ foo.cc bar.cc zonk.cc -o quzzle, or simply "make"10:48
_jeffsudo konqueror10:48
paulvolkHow do you start Konquorer as root?10:48
paulvolkok10:48
paulvolkthanks10:48
_jeffnp10:48
jpatrick_jeff: never sudo10:48
Chousukepaulvolk: why do you want to do that?10:48
tsdgeospaulvolk: and why you want to do that?10:48
jpatrick"kdesu"10:48
tsdgeosChousuke: lol10:48
_jefflol10:49
Chousukepaulvolk: it's dangerous. :)10:49
paulvolkto open a file to edit it as root10:49
Chousukepaulvolk: ah10:49
_jeffwhy is it dangerous?10:49
Chousukeuse kdesu kate file for that10:49
jpatrickthen use kate10:49
tsdgeospaulvolk: and you need konqueror to edit a file ;)10:49
_jeffare you guys typing the person's name every single time or is there a shortcut?10:49
paulvolkI need kate but have no idea how to start it in root10:49
Chousuke_jeff: because konqueror is a web browser and a large application.10:49
_jeffmhm10:49
Chousukepaulvolk: "kdesu kate"10:49
Chousukeshould work10:50
tsdgeos_jeff: initials + tab should do the work10:50
tsdgeosbut really depends on your irc client10:50
paulvolkok thanks10:50
_jeffohh im using konversation10:50
tsdgeosthen it should work10:50
Chousukeirssi's tabcomplete is particularly nice. :)10:50
_jefftsdgeos: oh wicked it works10:50
Chousukeit ignores all those annoying-to-type decoration characters10:50
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_jeffChousuke: yayuh10:51
Chousukelike _ in _jeff10:51
suspecthey10:51
suspectjust wanted to know how do i install gnome?10:51
_jeffChousuke: lol10:51
Chousukeso I get your nickname with just "j<tab>"10:51
suspecton kubuntu10:51
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Chousukesuspect: sudo aptitude install gnome-desktop-environment or something10:51
_jeffi thihnk that would be apt-get install ubuntu-desktop10:51
Chousukeor if you want all that, then yes, ubuntu-desktop10:51
_jefflol10:52
_jeffubuntu-desktop is a meta package10:52
_jeffthat comes with all the apps that come with the gnome version of ubuntu10:52
suspectok it finished10:52
_jeffincluding gnome10:52
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paulvolkOk I have no ide how to update to drapper10:53
Seantater!dapper10:54
_jefflol10:54
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:plukin] : Beta! http://kubuntu.org/announcements/dapper-beta.php | Amarok 1.4 beta 3, KOffice 1.5 out - See http://kubuntu.org/ | Breezy fixes in breezy-updates | IRC info and channels in other languages: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/InternetRelayChat | FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FaqOnIrc | Please don't paste into the channel, use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com | Dapper discussion in #ubuntu+1 |
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)10:54
paulvolkI can't get it to update10:54
SeantaterGo to a terminal10:54
_jeffas far as i know, all you have to do is change every 'breezy' to 'dapper' in your sources.list10:54
tsdgeospaulvolk: you have to dist-updrade not only updrage10:54
_jeffye10:54
NoUse!upgrade10:54
ubotuupgrade is, like, totally, Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html10:54
paulvolkHow do I dist-upgrade?10:54
NoUsepaulvolk apt-get dist-upgrade10:55
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suspectok10:55
suspectit didnt install gnome10:55
suspectanyways10:55
suspectwhat is Ubuntu 5.04 hoary10:55
suspectcan i get that?10:55
jpatrickold version10:55
Seantatersuspect: an old version of ubuntu10:55
suspectoh10:56
suspectnvm then10:56
Seantatersuspect, I doubt you want it10:56
suspectso whats the command to install gnome?10:56
NoUsesuspect apt-get install ubuntu-desktop10:56
Seantatersuspect, Have you done apt-get install ubuntu-desktop10:56
justanotheruseris it possible to request an upgrade of a package in dapper?10:56
Seantatersuspect, If you have already done that, you have to tell kdm to boot to gnome instead10:57
paulvolkafter I type apt-get dist-upgrade what do I do?10:57
suspectok ist installingh10:57
justanotheruser(to the latest stable version of rtorrent)10:57
NoUsesuspect could you be more specific?10:57
suspecti remember earlier i had dapper problems10:57
Seantaterpaulvolk: press enter, watch things happen10:57
suspectit was hell10:57
suspectlol10:57
NoUsejustanotheruser I think dapper is frozen for anything other than security and bug fixes10:57
paulvolkWatch what happen?10:57
paulvolknothing happened10:57
jpatrickNoUse: yep10:58
suspectgnome is smaler than kde right?10:58
Seantaterpaulvolk: paste into pastebin what it said10:58
suspectsmaller*10:58
Seantaterpaulvolk: and give us the link here10:58
_jeffwhats rtorrent?10:59
plukinsuspect: but you can make kde small, too.10:59
Seantatersuspect: not really10:59
suspecttorrent is a file that is pirated10:59
_jeffyeah i know10:59
Seantatersuspect: no10:59
_jeffbut whats rtorrent?10:59
NoUsesuspect wrong10:59
_jeffa client/10:59
_jeff?10:59
suspectlike a copy of a software that you have to pay for.10:59
Seantatersuspect: _jeff:yes10:59
_jefflol10:59
justanotheruserNoUse: so... i would have to email the maintainer to ask for it, and the package can't be in the normal repo. True?10:59
suspectlol10:59
suspectazureus is good11:00
OdyXsuspect: ktorrent is fine too.11:00
suspectbut i like bittorrent better11:00
_jeffyeah i like that one too11:00
suspectwheres ktorrent?11:00
suspecti don't see it11:00
jpatrickin main11:00
_jeffOdyX: suspect : i like both a lot11:00
Seantater!info ktorrent11:00
ubotuktorrent: (BitTorrent client for KDE), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 325 kB, Installed size: 1248 kB11:00
paulvolkHere you go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1262511:00
suspectoh11:00
suspectis it already installed on kubuntu?11:00
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NoUsejustanotheruser not as this point, you could request it for dapper+111:00
_jeffazureus is heavy on the resources though11:00
jpatrickin Dapper11:00
_jeffNoUse: lol dapper+!11:01
_jeff111:01
suspectwhats that link for?11:01
Seantaterpaulvolk: run kate ot kwrite or kedit, whatever, as root11:01
NoUse_jeff thats what its being referred to as, there is even #ubuntu+111:01
Seantaterpaulvolk: and open /etc/apt/sources.list11:01
paulvolkok done11:02
Seantaterpaulvolk: then change every ime it says breezy to dapper11:02
suspecthow can i get unbanned from ubuntu server?11:02
_jeffNoUse: lol i know breezy+1 is reffering to dapper, but doesnt dapper+1 refer to the one after dapper?11:02
justanotheruserNoUse: i ask this because some trackers have a pollicy that they banned all version of bittornado besides the latest develop and the stable. And rtorrent is going the same road11:03
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paulvolkok after that what do I do?11:03
Seantaterpaulvolk: then pastebin what your sources.list says11:03
NoUse_jeff yeah, thats what I was referring11:04
_jeffok11:04
suspecthow do i get unbanned from ubuntu servers?11:04
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_jeffsexual favours11:04
suspectlol11:04
_jefflol11:04
suspectyou're kidding11:04
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_jeffyeah11:04
NoUsehe's really not11:04
suspectok11:04
suspectyes he is11:04
paulvolkok here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1262611:04
suspectso how do i get unbanned?11:05
suspectapologize?11:05
_jeffwhat are you banned from exactly?11:05
suspect#ubuntu and #ubuntu+111:05
NoUsesuspect what did you do?11:05
_jeffyeah thats it11:05
Seantaterpaulvolk: now put a # before each line that has the word cdrom in it11:05
suspecti don't know11:05
suspectno one was helping so i yelled11:06
_jefflol11:06
suspectand cursed11:06
suspectlol11:06
_jeffLOL11:06
_jeffdude11:06
suspectrofl11:06
_jeffyeah try apologising11:06
paulvolkok11:06
suspectbut how?11:06
_jeffcan you get on with a different name or computer?11:06
suspectyeah11:06
suspectmy sis laptop11:06
suspectshe has windows11:06
Seantaterpaulvolk: now type "apt-get update" (no quotes) into a terminal11:06
suspectbut it has a virus11:06
_jefflol ok go on with that and apologize11:06
suspecti dont mess with her things11:06
Seantaterpaulvolk: pastbin what it says11:07
suspectno11:07
_jefflol ok then dont11:07
paulvolkok11:07
suspecther pc is infected11:07
suspectand its slow11:07
_jefflol11:07
suspectlots of pop ups saying adult friend finder11:07
suspectLOL!!11:07
_jeffyou can get on the channel from any computer that has the internet i thinsk11:07
_jefflol11:07
suspectlol11:07
_jeffyeah... viruses11:07
suspectwhy don't you go and tell them im sorry11:08
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paulvolkit is downloading files11:08
_jeffok11:08
suspecttell them that i was sorry11:08
paulvolkdo you want me to wait?11:08
_jeffwill they remember you?11:08
Seantaterpaulvolk: yes, wait11:08
suspectyes11:08
suspecti was suspect11:08
_jeffok11:08
suspectand excaliber11:08
paulvolkyou want me to paste everything it says?11:09
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suspectwhat?11:09
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suspectcopy and paste my texts?11:09
Seantaterpaulvolk: No, just give me an idea of what it says11:09
suspectoh11:09
paulvolk30 some packedges where upgraded11:10
suspect[17:10]  [474]  #ubuntu+1 You're banned from that channel11:10
suspectsee that11:10
suspectim banned11:10
suspect= (11:10
paulvolkdo I restart now?11:10
_jefflol sorry suspect11:10
Seantaterpaulvolk: no11:10
_jeffnobody is adressing our case11:10
suspectyou tried?11:10
Seantaterpaulvolk: that was update11:10
_jeffyeah11:10
suspectdamn11:10
_jeffthose ubuntu punks are jerks11:10
_jeffforget them11:10
suspectthanks anyways11:10
Seantaterpaulvolk: now for upGRADE11:10
paulvolkok11:11
paulvolkwhat do I do?11:11
_jeffi baely ever get a response from them anyways11:11
Seantaterpaulvolk: do "apt-get dist-upgrade" (no quotes)11:11
_jeff*barely11:11
suspectaslol11:11
_jefflol11:11
suspect[17:10]  [474]  #ubuntu+1 You're banned from that channel11:11
suspectsee that?11:11
suspectlol11:11
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Seantaterpaulvolk: It should be asking a few questions now11:12
paulvolk854 upgraded, 115 newly installed, 186 to remove and 3 not upgraded11:12
paulvolkis what it says now it is asking if I want to continue11:12
paulvolkyes?11:12
Seantaterpaulvolk: yes11:12
suspect_jeff:do you know how to install lmms?11:12
suspecti have it as a .deb file on my desktop11:13
suspectsaved11:13
Seantaterpaulvolk: now make a cup of your favorite beverage and watch it work11:13
_jeffsuspect: you mean how do you install a .deb?11:13
suspectyes11:13
Seantaterpaulvolk: how fact is your internet connection11:14
_jeffsudo dpkg -i <full path to the .deb file>11:14
Seantaterpaulvolk: how faSt is your internet connection11:14
paulvolkit is about 3mb/s11:14
Seantaterpaulvolk: sorry11:14
Seantaterpaulvolk: drool11:14
_jeffor you could cd to your desktop and just type the name of the file11:14
Seantaterpaulvolk: mbit or MB?11:14
_jeffinstead of the full path11:14
paulvolkMB11:15
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_jeffsuspect: whats lmms?11:15
suspecta music making thing11:15
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Seantaterpaulvolk: how fast is your CPU11:15
_jeffaw i love music making things11:15
suspectand i keep getting errors when i type in sudo dpkg -i and the file name11:15
paulvolkHey Seantater are you typing my name every line?11:15
suspectit doesnt work11:15
_jeffanybody have experience with kguitar?11:15
Seantaterpaulvolk: yes11:15
_jeffwhats it say?11:15
suspectkguitar?11:15
suspectis that a real guitar?11:15
_jeffno11:15
paulvolk3 gightz11:15
paulvolkI think11:16
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suspecti need a virtual guitar11:16
_jeffit is a tab application11:16
suspectis it just liek a guitar?11:16
_jeffhelps you write music for guitar11:16
suspectlike*11:16
Seantaterpaul: mine is only 2.2 GHZ with 600 KB/s11:16
suspectis it?11:16
suspectlike a guitar?11:16
Seantaterpaul: Your updtade should take about 30-45minutes11:16
_jefflol im not sure, havent messed with it much11:16
paulvolkoh ok I think mine around 211:16
suspectlol11:16
suspectbut what does it look like?11:16
Seantaterpaulvolk: minutes?11:17
paulvolksorry I just looked it up11:17
_jeffi dont think it will give you a guitar track if thats what ur after11:17
Seantaterpaulvolk: I do not think the ubuntu servers allow to download that fast11:17
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_jeffit looks like sheet music i guess11:17
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suspectdoes it look like a guitar?11:17
paulvolkoh well11:17
_jefflol its an application man11:17
paulvolkI will just wait11:17
suspectlol11:17
paulvolkso11:17
suspectoh11:17
Seantaterpaulvolk: How many %11:17
_jefflol11:17
paulvolk811:17
paulvolklol11:18
Seantaterpaulvolk: D/Ling or installing now?11:18
_jeffdid you think i meant a real guitar?11:18
suspectyes11:18
suspectlol11:18
_jefflol11:18
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paulvolkdownloading11:18
suspecthey you on gnome?11:18
suspector kde?11:18
paulvolkKDE ALL THE WAY!!!11:18
_jeffkde11:18
_jeffyayuh11:18
suspectlol11:18
SeantaterKDE!!!11:18
suspectyeah11:18
suspectKDE!!!11:18
_jeffsuspect: sombody just adressed us on #ubuntu11:18
paulvolkYAYAAAA KDE IS THE BEST11:19
suspectwhat they said?11:19
suspectYEAH!!!11:19
_jeffsuspect: they said message ompaul11:19
_jeffsuspect: but there are no promises11:19
suspectompaul?11:19
_jeffyeah11:19
Seantaterompaul?11:19
suspecthiow do i message him?11:19
_jefflol i dont know11:19
suspectlol11:19
_jeffi was just about to ask11:19
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suspectask them11:20
NoUsetype  /msg nick message11:20
_jeffohh11:20
Seantaterpaulvolk: be back in a while11:20
paulvolkWhat was he banned for?11:20
paulvolkok thanks for the help!11:20
suspectbrb11:20
_jeffnobody would help him so he yelled and cursed11:20
_jefflol11:20
SeantaterAnyone here program?11:20
_jeffy..no11:21
NoUseSeantater yeah11:21
paulvolksometimes people can be really rude on these channels. I had that problem with the SUSE channel11:21
SeantaterNoUse: What language?11:22
Raven301Where do you get an updated Repositories list?11:22
paulvolkbut since switching I have gotten all the help I have needed11:22
paulvolkThey are really nice and helpfull here11:22
NoUseSeantater python, java, some shell scripting, PHP11:22
Seantaterpaulvolk: I hope I am not an exception11:22
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suspecthow do i register my nickname/11:22
SeantaterNoUse, No java, but I do Python, PHP, and BASH11:22
SeantaterNoUse, I perfer Python11:22
NoUseSeantater cool11:22
suspecthow?11:22
NoUseSeantater yeah its a nice language11:23
SeantaterNoUse, What have you made?11:23
che_benwayhow can i upgrade to dapper without burning a new cd?11:23
NoUsesuspect /msg NickServ help11:23
NoUseSeantater I submitted a few patches to CastPodder11:23
h3sp4wnWhy does knetworkmanager depend on a huge amount of gnome stuff ? (I was going to test it but if it needs that much stuff I may as well just use the gtk version) I don't need it just wanted to try it11:23
NoUseSeantater I use java for work11:23
SeantaterNoUse, I've never gotten around to that, But I have made a couple things for fun11:24
SeantaterNoUse, Nothing big11:24
suspectcan you tell me the exact command?11:24
NoUsesuspect I don't it, NickServ will tell you11:24
Seantaterpaulvolk still working?11:24
NoUsedon't know*11:24
paulvolkYup11:24
Seantaterpaulvolk: %?11:25
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paulvolk2011:25
paulvolkso Seantater you running drapper?11:26
Seantaterpaulvolk: yes11:26
Seantaterpaulvolk: I used to have one upgraded from breezy11:26
Seantaterpaulvolk: But that can occasionally get buggy11:26
Seantaterpaulvolk: so i installed a fresh dapper install11:26
suspecti dont understand the command11:27
suspectits confusing11:27
paulvolkwhere can you get the visual install CD instead of the text based one?11:27
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paulvolkWant to give it to my friend11:27
Seantaterpaulvolk: I do not think you can yet11:27
paulvolkHe is not as compute literat as I am11:27
Seantaterpaulvolk: it's still in development last time I checked11:27
vgeis there a text based install?11:27
paulvolkoh ok11:27
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Seantaterpaulvolk: The one od dapper now is just like the one on breezy11:28
paulvolkI guess I will have to install it for him11:28
NoUse!tell suspect about register11:28
Seantaterpaulvolk: Wait until dapper is released, and the GUI will be heer11:28
paulvolkNice11:28
vgequestion is, what part of install needs to be graphic?11:28
Seantatervge: IMO, all of it11:29
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_jefflol the hoary hedgehog install was fine for me11:29
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SeantaterSion: Choose a name and stick with it11:29
vgewell i think the present one is very clear11:29
_jeffyeah11:29
_jeffbreezy11:29
Sioni dont know how to register11:29
paulvolkwell the Breezy install was a little complicated and confusing for a noob to linux, plus I am used to the SUSE install which is graphic and amazing looking11:29
Seantatervge: It;s just not preety11:29
paulvolkalso apeals to a wider veriety of users11:30
_jeffi found my first ubuntu install last summer very easy and it was my first try on linux11:30
Sioni dont get the registration11:30
paulvolkso does dapper have a graphic shutdown?11:30
vgeyes11:31
OdyXpaulvolk: Yep.11:31
paulvolknice you have seen it?11:31
Sioncan someone show me the exact command?11:31
Sionfor registering?11:31
NoUseSion did you follow the instructions I sent you?11:31
Sionyes11:31
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admrlanyone know who did the graphics for the graphic shutdown..?11:31
NoUseSion how is it confusing?11:31
paulvolkis it faster, dapper?11:31
_jeffPython: suspect?11:31
vgepaulvolk: yes11:31
Sionlike do i have to change my nick ont he little box<<<<<<<<<11:31
vgein a degree11:31
admrlwas it kwwii..?11:32
paulvolklike a lot faster?11:32
Sionor type in the nickname after the register word11:32
_jeffsuspect?11:32
_jeffyou there?11:32
Sionyes?11:32
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_jeffdid they unban you?11:32
Sionthis is suspect11:32
Sioni cant talk to them11:32
Sionim not registered11:32
paulvolkvge: is it a lot faster?11:32
_jeffo11:32
Sionand its confusing to register11:32
_jeffyeah i know11:32
Sionshow me the command please11:33
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_jeffi dont remember doing it myself11:33
vgepaulvolk: not that you should upgrade becouse of it11:33
Sion[Notice]  -NickServ- Syntax: REGISTER <password>11:33
Sion[17:33]  [Notice]  -NickServ- Type: /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER for more information11:33
paulvolkno no but I mean you can notice it? not like a fraction of a second thing.11:33
Siontahts what happened11:33
Sioni dont get it11:33
Sionthats*11:33
Seantaterpaulvolk: I cannot notice it11:33
_jeffhmm11:34
Seantaterpaulvolk: However, KDE4 is supposed to be a noticible speed increase11:34
NoUseSion you just type /msg NickServ register <yourpassword> , thats all11:34
Seantaterpaulvolk: But that's quite a while from now11:34
_jefftype /msg nickserv register <password>11:34
paulvolkoh does it have an update notification?11:34
_jeffyeah11:34
Sionbut sion is already regitered11:34
_jeffnot yeah to paulvolk11:34
Sionand i dont have it registered11:34
paulvolkI want an update notification bad11:34
NoUseSion ok, so you have to choose a different nick11:35
OdyXpaulvolk: the boot is a lot faster thougg...11:35
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paulvolkcool11:35
paulvolkanyways I have to go11:35
solancan any1 help me install mysql++-2.1.1, I'm getting an error [http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12628]  when I try to ./configure. I'v got both libmysql and mysql-client installed...11:35
paulvolkdinner11:35
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paulvolkbye11:35
paulvolkand thanks for the help11:35
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BeerBabyis there anyone here that can help me with wireless on kubuntu?11:35
ZeLL91finalley11:36
ZeLL91finally11:36
_jefftake it easy paul11:36
solanBeerBaby: have you done anything yet?11:36
NoUsesolan can't you use the mysql that is in apt?11:36
BeerBabywell i have everything working drivers etc with ndis11:36
_jeffwhats the problem then?11:36
BeerBabyexcept the essid still says no/any11:36
_jeffget a wifi manager11:36
solanNoUse: I'v installed a couple of mysql clients via apt, but it still doesn't work...11:37
BeerBabyeven when i use the iwconfig command it doesnt take it... umm wifi manager?11:37
ZeLL91ok i messaged ompaul11:37
BeerBabysorry this is all new to me lol11:37
_jeffi like wifi radar11:37
NoUsesolan you need to install the server as well as the client11:37
solanBeerBaby: gkwifi, It's really neat if you running GNOME;)11:37
ZeLL91hes not answering though11:37
_jeffo11:37
BeerBabyeeep kde here unfortunately11:37
ZeLL91_jeff11:37
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solanhmmm... have you got the drivers, and the hole lot up and running?11:38
BeerBabywifi radar, ok well ill give it a whirl. this has been doing my head in for hours now lol11:38
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_jeffBeerBaby: lol its not unfortunate, just search in adept for wifi11:38
ZeLL91can you tel them hes not answering me?11:38
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NoUsesolan the drivers for what? php?11:38
BeerBabyyea i use the ndiswrapper or wotever it is11:38
_jeffZeLL91: yeah ill try11:38
ZeLL91ok11:38
_jeffhe may not be at the computer though11:38
solanNoUse: sorre, was talking to BeerBaby...11:38
solanwhat card are you using?11:39
solanNoUse: nope, installed the mysql-server that apt's got, and still got the same error...11:39
BeerBabyumm buffalo wl12 pci g54s11:39
ZeLL91nevermind _jeff11:40
NoUsesolan which error?11:40
BeerBabyin kwifimanager it said it was connected, green bar and everythinig. to what i dont know11:40
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_jeffhes talking to you now?11:40
ZeLL91yeah11:40
solanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1262811:40
_jeffBeerBaby: yeah kwifi is stupid, it always does that11:40
_jeffBeerBaby: at least for me11:41
BeerBabylol and um i scan for networks and it can see the AP but i double click and nothing happens11:41
solanBeerBaby: me2...11:41
_jeffBeerBaby: lol i know, its retarted11:41
BeerBabyim glad im not the only one lol11:41
BeerBabycuzz i felt like i was being stupid or sumthiin11:41
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solanBeerBaby: have you tried using the Wireless Network option in Control Center?11:42
vgewell, atleast you can see the AP -.-11:42
BeerBabyyup i tried that11:42
solannothing?11:42
ZeLL91and i still don't know how to install macromedia flash player11:42
BeerBabywell under network name11:42
_jeffZeLL91: lol i hate how mods act like they are gods11:42
BeerBabydo i put the SSID in there or11:42
ZeLL91lol11:42
BeerBabyi did that anyway lol11:43
BeerBabybut it didnt pick it up still11:43
vgeZeLL91: tryed installing it from macromedia.com? works for me11:43
_jeffZeLL91: he just /msgd me and told me to step away from the keyboard because ive done my good deed for the day11:43
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ZeLL91= )11:43
solanBeerBaby: 2secs...11:43
_jefflol11:43
BeerBabyok thanks11:43
ZeLL91lol11:43
temiHey, i have like 150gb of free space, how to i make it usuable?11:44
ZeLL91you're the best if he unbans me11:44
_jefflol11:44
_jeffyeah that would make me the best11:44
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ZeLL91= D11:44
NoUsesolan you need the mysql dev files, I think its in the libmysqlclient14-dev package11:44
ZeLL91so how did you install macromedia?11:44
_jeffme?11:44
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ZeLL91yes11:45
vgetemi: post the HD to me, i can use it for free if you like? you dont have to pay me anything ;)11:45
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_jefflol i /still/ dont have flash working11:45
ZeLL91ahh11:45
temilol vge11:45
ZeLL91lol11:45
_jeffi know11:45
ZeLL91i know a easy way11:45
ZeLL91= )11:45
_jeffsince i got breezy, my flash hasnt worked11:45
temivge: its a partitioned drive lol11:45
ZeLL91ok all you have to do is go to ubuntu and go to a page that has flash and install it there11:46
ZeLL91and you will have it here11:46
ZeLL91lol11:46
ZeLL91= )11:46
vge_jeff: you get tiny or no text at all in flash?11:46
_jeffkonqueror and firefox think i dont have the plugin11:47
_jeffand i dont know if i do :(11:47
_jeffive installed the packages11:47
ZeLL91just go to ubuntu and go to firefox11:47
_jeffin regular old ubuntu too11:47
temiAnyone, i have hd space thats free, and i want to make it usuable, do i need to use the cd and go to partitioning or is there an easier way?11:47
ZeLL91then go to a page that has a flash thing and install the missing things11:47
_jefftemi: i dont know11:47
BeerBabyoh and administrator mode didnt work the next day even when i typed in the password. it just took me back to the same screen. so i just enabled root for now lol11:48
temiarg!11:48
ZeLL91!arf11:48
ubotuZeLL91: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:48
_jeffZeLL91: i tried that a while back and it still didnt work11:48
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ZeLL91worked for me11:48
_jeff!ping11:48
ubotupong11:48
ZeLL91= )11:48
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ZeLL91moo11:49
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temiAnyone know how to mount empty area?11:49
hussamwhere are the difference in packages between installing kubuntu dapper beta using live and install CD?11:49
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_jeffis there any difference between dapper beta and flight 6?11:50
temihussam: live doesnt instal anything, it runs from the cd, and the cd install everything on your pc and you dont need the cd11:50
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LogicalDashI've been told that to make a command run on startup, I've got to create a .desktop file in ~/.kde/Autostart ...but what should be in the .desktop file?11:50
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solanBeerBaby: do U get anything? IP? DHCP-server..?11:50
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Pupenoany program to convert times between timezones ? I want to know what time is 10 am PST in UTC.11:50
BeerBabyits going to be a static ip so i set that11:50
BeerBabyand i also set the subnet mask11:50
solanNoUse: have you found anything....? sorry, but I went offline a bit...11:51
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solaniptables -L?11:51
NoUsesolan you need the mysql dev files, I think its in11:51
NoUse          the libmysqlclient14-dev package11:51
solanoh... thx man;)11:51
ZeLL91!tell _jeff about sex11:51
BeerBabyummms11:51
_jefflol11:51
ZeLL91lol11:51
ZeLL91i was bored11:51
ZeLL91= \11:51
_jeffhahaha11:51
ZeLL91hohoho11:51
BeerBabywell i dont think its going to be a routing issue cuzz its a static WAN ip11:52
BeerBabybut ill check11:52
ZeLL91T)11:52
_jeffwhere are you from ZeLL9111:52
hussamtemi: I thought the live cd had a install feature11:52
ZeLL91new york11:52
ZeLL91bronx11:52
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ZeLL91and yourself?11:52
_jefftoronto canada11:52
ZeLL91oh11:52
_jeffim like 5 hours away11:52
ZeLL91is canada cool?11:52
_jeffyeah canada is good11:52
asranielare there somewhere up to date breezy install cds? i have to install it on a pc without internet11:52
solanNoUse: thx man! it worked:)11:53
_jeffi like the bronx though11:53
ZeLL91= )11:53
_jefflol11:53
ZeLL91i hate it = (11:53
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ZeLL91LOL11:53
_jeffhow come?11:53
ZeLL91too much violence11:53
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_jeffoh11:53
_jefflol yeah last time i was there, i saw a car get broken into in broad daylight11:54
_jeffit was awesome11:54
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NoUsesolan np11:54
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_jeffdoes anybody here use irc to download copyrighted material?11:59
_jeffbecause i want to start..11:59
Raven301lol @ _jeff question12:00
Riddell_jeff: this is a kubuntu support channel, not a warez channel12:00
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_jeffsorry12:00
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vgetemisupper: byteway, did you try gparted?12:02
_jeffso ahh12:02
Riddellasraniel: ubuntu breezy CDs havn't been made yet12:02
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hussamRiddell: Hi, does the installer included on the kubuntu dapper beta cd install the same package set as the regular installer cd?12:03
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_jeffis there any way to make knotify notifications better looking?12:03
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Riddellhussam: yes12:03
hussamRiddell: I meant the live cd12:03
Riddell_jeff: sadly no12:03
_jeffRiddell: poop12:03
Riddellhussam: yes it does, but it's most likely broken on the beta live CD :(12:03
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_souphow to get gnome like network icon in panel in kubuntu ?12:04
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hussamRiddell: so I get the installer, not the live cd.12:04

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