[12:03] <jesseb> inteliwasp: I have no idea why that is so.
[12:05] <jesseb> inteliwasp: maybe you can ask everyone else here if they can help, cause I think I'm at about the limit of my knowledge here.
[12:05] <inteliwasp> i figured it out, the font is set way high
[12:06] <jesseb> inteliwasp: very good!
[12:07] <inteliwasp> or mabe not...
[12:07] <inteliwasp> brb
[12:07] <inteliwasp> need restart
[12:14] <asraniel> hi there, i need quickly some help for a friend. how can i mount a ext3 partition read write for a user?
[12:16] <guerilla> Hi I have a problem
[12:16] <guerilla> I just installed fluxbox using the package manager
[12:16] <inteliwasp> jesseb: well i fix it too well, everything is too small :P
[12:16] <guerilla> But I have no idea how to enable it
[12:17] <guerilla> Can someone please help me out
[12:17] <inteliwasp> give them a minute thay are extremly bussy
[12:17] <robotgeek> guerilla: logout, and select fluxbox from the menu
[12:18] <guerilla> There is no menu at startup, there is only a logon that just asks for password
[12:18] <robotgeek> guerilla: it should be under sessions
[12:19] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: how good are you at graphics?
[12:19] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: not very good, why?
[12:19] <guerilla> robotgeek, ok Ill go check it, thankyou
[12:20] <inteliwasp> oh i tried to update my 3d drivers and it blew up in my face :)
[12:21] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: out of your legue?
[12:22] <robotgeek> inteliwasp: most definetly
[12:25] <inteliwasp> robotgeek: know of a place to get some help?
[12:27] <noaXess> how to start the x config tool in command mode?
[12:28] <guerilla> robotgeek, I found the fluxbox, and it worked, but there is only restart,exit and xterm on the menu
[12:30] <robotgeek> guerilla: such is fluxbox
[12:30] <guerilla> :(
[12:31] <guerilla> robotgeek, I wanted to make it look like the screenshot of nubuntu I saw
[12:32] <guerilla> robotgeek, I found the theme, but dont know how to install it
[12:32] <noaXess> i hav installed dapper drake 6 on my asus w1v, ati radeon x700, with 1680x1050.. x starts but monitor shows nothing..
[12:32] <robotgeek> guerilla: sorry, i have not much idea about fluxbox, sorry
[12:32] <_martynda> k3b is only writing at 4x on a dell inspiron 6000, can someone help me please?
[12:32] <noaXess> if i stop x ctrl+alt+backspace and restart in recovery mode, i don't see any error.
[12:32] <guerilla> robotgeek, Ok I wont annoy you anymore, thanks
[12:34] <me2win> noaXess: are you using DVI or VGA?
[12:35] <noaXess> me2win: its my notebook.. wow.. i duno..
[12:35] <noaXess> asus w1v
[12:35] <noaXess> ati tech radeon mob. x700
[12:36] <me2win> thats wierd
[12:36] <me2win> noaXess: have you tried reconfiguring the x server?
[12:37] <noaXess> me2win: how?.. is there a command tool?
[12:38] <noaXess> or hacking the xorg.conf file?
[12:38] <me2win> !xorg
[12:38] <ubotu> I heard xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[12:38] <noaXess> aha
[12:39] <me2win> run that command
[12:39] <noaXess> me2win: ok.. thanks
[12:54] <pjw> When will be the new version of ubuntu?
[12:54] <pjw> today?
[12:54] <spariticus_rex> pjw: no, certainly not...
[12:55] <spariticus_rex> I believe it is scheduled for June 2006
[12:55] <nexus10> Hi. Could anyone point me to docs on getting kdeprintfax set up? I have a wrking modem set up on /dev/ttyS14, I have no idea how to get it to send faxes. Any pointers, anyone?
[12:57] <noaXess> me2win: i have a switch to switch between internal and external monitor on my notebook.. now.. i need to put this switch to activate the internal monitor.. but the monitor comes not correct up..
[01:01] <suspect> hello
[01:01] <suspect> does anyone know what to do with a .daa file?
[01:02] <Excaliber> ?
[01:03] <nexus10> suspect: have you tried www.filext.com ?
[01:03] <Excaliber> will that work?
[01:03] <Excaliber> no i have a file that says uknown
[01:03] <Excaliber> unknown
[01:04] <Excaliber> what do i do with a file that is unknown
[01:04] <nexus10> Excaliber: www.filext.com tells you which app is associated with an extension
[01:05] <Excaliber> i dont understand this web
[01:06] <Excaliber> i searched for fruity loops
[01:06] <Excaliber> but nothing
[01:06] <nexus10> Excaliber: http://www.filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=daa&Search=Search
[01:06] <spariticus_rex> is the .daa file from fruity loops?
[01:07] <Excaliber> no im trying to install fruity loops but its a unknown file
[01:07] <Excaliber> i dont know what to do with a unknown file
[01:07] <spariticus_rex> trying to install fruity loops on linux?
[01:07] <Excaliber> yeah
[01:08] <Excaliber> you know whats that right?
[01:08] <Nomad411> I do, but will it work?
[01:08] <Nomad411> I just did an update and Forefox is coming down.  is it 1.5?
[01:08] <Excaliber> i said fruity loops
[01:09] <spariticus_rex> so using wine, obviously. What point is the problem at?
[01:09] <Nomad411> I know fruity loops, yes
[01:09] <Nomad411> it's firefox 1.08.. :(
[01:09] <Excaliber> NO ITS NOT
[01:09] <Excaliber> lol
[01:10] <Excaliber> its a software to make music
[01:10] <Nomad411> No no sorry.. :)
[01:10] <Excaliber> = )
[01:10] <Nomad411> I know, let me rephrase..  I popped in to ask about the firefox I'm updating, but also answered your question about fruity loops..
[01:10] <Excaliber> oh
[01:10] <Nomad411> so 1 - I know fruity loops, used to love it
[01:10] <Nomad411> 2 - I'm getting firefox 1.08 :(
[01:11] <Nomad411> :D
[01:11] <Excaliber> well you know what to do with unknown files?
[01:11] <nexus10> Excaliber: are you trying to use fruityLoops with wine?
[01:11] <Mgrvln> open .daa's with an iso program
[01:12] <GuerillaTactiks> What command do I use to launch konqueror from the command line?
[01:12] <Mgrvln> example winiso
[01:12] <Excaliber> all im trying to do is install fruity loops
[01:12] <Excaliber> but the file is unknown
[01:12] <spariticus_rex> so you have something you downloaded from p2p or something?
[01:13] <Snake__> GuerillaTactiks: konqueror
[01:13] <Excaliber> uhmm torrent
[01:13] <Nomad411> is uhmmtorrent better than utorrent?
[01:13] <Nomad411> heheeh  Just kididng
[01:13] <Snake__> utorrent ftw
[01:14] <spariticus_rex> okay, well as far as I know .daa is something you have to open up with an iso program. you might have to use windows...
[01:14] <Nomad411> is it same as .iso?  If so you could mount it with  sudo mount -t loop filename.daa /mnt
[01:15] <Mgrvln> might open that way
[01:15] <Distro^Junkie> what is needed to build from svn ?
[01:15] <noaXess> !xorg
[01:15] <ubotu> I guess xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[01:15] <nexus10> From that URI at filext.com: DAA is a format for an image file, which supports some advanced features, such as compression, password protection, ...
[01:15] <GuerillaTactiks> snake__ thanks
[01:15] <Snake__> GuerillaTactiks: np
[01:16] <Excaliber> no
[01:16] <GuerillaTactiks> snake__ how about the file manager?
[01:16] <Excaliber> im talking about the unknown file
[01:16] <Excaliber> what do i do with a unknown file
[01:16] <Snake__> GuerillaTactiks: That is the file manager
[01:16] <Excaliber> ??????
[01:17] <spariticus_rex> no extension?
[01:17] <GuerillaTactiks> snake__ no i mean the command for the visual one, I dont know its name, maybe nautilus
[01:18] <Snake__> GuerillaTactiks: your in kubuntu right?
[01:18] <GuerillaTactiks> snake__ yep
[01:18] <Excaliber> all i see is fruityloops
[01:18] <Snake__> GuerillaTactiks: Then yes, your file manager is konquer, type whereever you want to go in the address bar
[01:18] <Excaliber> no .w/e
[01:19] <Snake__> GuerillaTactiks: You cant ctrl+t to open a new tab if you want to
[01:19] <GuerillaTactiks> snake__ ok cool, thankyou again
[01:19] <Excaliber> hellooooo
[01:19] <Snake__> No problem
[01:19] <Excaliber> what do i do with a unknown file???
[01:19] <spariticus_rex> I do not know!!
[01:19] <Snake__> Excaliber: Find out what kind of file it is
[01:19] <Excaliber> how?
[01:19] <Snake__> Excaliber: No idea, that is up to you
[01:19] <Mgrvln> .daa files wont work under linux
[01:20] <Excaliber> ok
[01:20] <spariticus_rex> have you tried "tail" and "head" to see if it gives a clue about what type of file it is?
[01:20] <Excaliber> tail?
[01:20] <spariticus_rex> just type "tail FILE" under terminal
[01:20] <Excaliber> wth/
[01:20] <Mgrvln> daemon tools will mount it for you though
[01:21] <nexus10> Excaliber: if someone is talking to you they'll usually start the message with your nick :-)
[01:21] <Excaliber> i know
[01:21] <Excaliber> = )
[01:21] <Snake__> nexus10: I believe spariticus_rex is actually talking to him ;)
[01:21] <robotgeek> file works better than tail and head :)
[01:22] <nexus10> :-) beats me...
[01:22] <spariticus_rex> robotgeek: how does one use file?
[01:22] <robotgeek> spariticus_rex: file <filename>
[01:22] <Snake__> spariticus_rex: just or future refrence, man pages rock! :P
[01:22] <spariticus_rex> Snake__: of course!
[01:23] <Excaliber> suspect@suspect:~$ tail Fruity Loops Studio Producer Edition XXL V6.04
[01:23] <Snake__> robotgeek: Ooooo I wanna visit the year 3000!!
[01:23] <Snake__> :P
[01:23] <Excaliber> tail: cannot open `Fruity' for reading: No such file or directory
[01:23] <Excaliber> tail: cannot open `Loops' for reading: No such file or directory
[01:23] <Excaliber> tail: cannot open `Studio' for reading: No such file or directory
[01:23] <Snake__> !pastebin
[01:23] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:23] <Excaliber> tail: cannot open `Producer' for reading: No such file or directory
[01:23] <spariticus_rex> Excaliber: You have to escape the spaces.
[01:23] <Snake__> robotgeek: whodat
[01:24] <Excaliber> hello?
[01:24] <spariticus_rex> Excaliber: Every space that is in the file name requires you to type a backslash before it. So "tail Fruity Loops Studio" would have to be done like so: "tail Fruity\ Loops\ Studio"
[01:24] <robotgeek> Excaliber: use tab completion
[01:24] <Snake__> spariticus_rex: or just tab it..
[01:24] <spariticus_rex> true...
[01:24] <Excaliber> this is the file name
[01:24] <Excaliber> Fruity Loops Studio Producer Edition XXL V6.04
[01:24] <Excaliber> Fruity Loops Studio Producer Edition XXL V6.04
[01:25] <Excaliber> Fruity Loops Studio Producer Edition XXL V6.04
[01:25] <Excaliber> oops
[01:25] <Snake__> ...
[01:25] <Excaliber> sorry
[01:25] <Snake__> !pastebin
[01:25] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:25] <Snake__> !!!!!
[01:25] <ubotu> Snake__: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:25] <Snake__> Grrr
[01:25] <spariticus_rex> So type "tail F" then hit tab to complete the name, right?
[01:25] <Excaliber> im sorry
[01:25] <Snake__> spariticus_rex: correct
[01:25] <spariticus_rex> is that how tab completion works?
[01:25] <Snake__> spariticus_rex: just like in IRC ;)
[01:25] <robotgeek> Excaliber: type "file Fruity\ Loops\ Studio\ Producer\ Edition\ XXL\ V6.04"
[01:26] <robotgeek> Excaliber: or you can type "file Fruity<press tab key>"
[01:26] <spariticus_rex> Snake__: I never bothered to figure out tab completion... now I feel stupid ;-)
[01:27] <Excaliber> it doesnt work man
[01:27] <Snake__> is it bad when my comp laggs on duke 3d..
[01:27] <Snake__> lol
[01:27] <Excaliber> Lol
[01:27] <spariticus_rex> Depends... are you running it in dosemu?
[01:27] <Snake__> spariticus_rex: native on win xp
[01:28] <Excaliber> i can edit the file type though
[01:28] <spariticus_rex> Snake__: Why in the world would you run Win XP???!!
[01:28] <spariticus_rex> ;-)
[01:28] <Excaliber> so what should i eidit it to?
[01:28] <Snake__> spariticus_rex: games
[01:28] <Excaliber> edit*
[01:28] <spariticus_rex> Snake__: Who needs those?
[01:28] <Excaliber> .exe
[01:28] <LogicalDash> I'm trying to get something called grandfatherclock to run at startup. How do I configure this in Ubuntu?
[01:29] <Excaliber> ?
[01:29] <LogicalDash> *Kubuntu
[01:29] <Snake__> spariticus_rex: me. Big time/
[01:29] <Excaliber> hellooo
[01:29] <spariticus_rex> Excaliber: no, not .exe. It most likely is some sort of other file.
[01:29] <Excaliber> what should i edit it as?
[01:29] <Excaliber> what should i make it to?
[01:29] <spariticus_rex> I'm not sure.
[01:29] <spariticus_rex> Can you tell me where you got it from?
[01:30] <Excaliber> http://www.torrentspy.com/
[01:30] <Snake__> Excaliber: its a torrent.
[01:30] <Snake__> .torrent
[01:30] <spariticus_rex> Excaliber: Hold on, let me check it out
[01:30] <Excaliber> yes
[01:30] <Riddell> LogicalDash: add a .desktop file in ~/.kde/Autostart
[01:31] <Snake__> Excaliber: no thats what im telling you. Thats what kind of file it is..
[01:31] <spariticus_rex> Excaliber: you've already downloaded it? with your torrent software?
[01:31] <Excaliber> ok
[01:31] <Excaliber> yes
[01:31] <Excaliber> bittorrent
[01:31] <Snake__> oh
[01:31] <Snake__> crap
[01:31] <Excaliber> its saved ont he desktop
[01:31] <Snake__> never mind then its not a torrent.
[01:31] <Snake__> It could be anything in the world
[01:31] <spariticus_rex> so it ain't a torrent anymore
[01:31] <spariticus_rex> I'm trying to find it on torrentspy
[01:32] <Excaliber> its the second one you see
[01:32] <Excaliber> that says application main
[01:32] <spariticus_rex> i see
[01:32] <spariticus_rex> I think it is a .rar
[01:32] <LogicalDash> Riddell: "No such file or directory"
[01:32] <spariticus_rex> try naming it that and see what happens...
[01:33] <spariticus_rex> Excaliber: never mind, it is a .daa file.
[01:33] <nexus10> Excaliber: from filext, it looks likely it's a PowerISO image which uses some proprietary compression
[01:33] <spariticus_rex> Excaliber: do you have access to a windows computer?
[01:34] <Excaliber> yes my sis laptop
[01:34] <Excaliber> but it has a virus
[01:34] <Excaliber> i don't like using it
[01:34] <spariticus_rex> Excaliber:Well, if possible you should try copying the file over to her computer, then use PowerISO to open it. You won't get any of her viruses on linux, if that helps.
[01:35] <Snake__> Excaliber: every windows PC has a virus.
[01:35] <Snake__> its called windows
[01:35] <spariticus_rex> Excaliber: you can get PowerISO demo off the net.
[01:35] <Snake__> its a plauge sweeping the world
[01:35] <Excaliber> but i just want to install it now
[01:35] <wubrgamer> hey....if i could get some help with an apt-get problem.........i would REALLY appreciate it...........i need a default sources.list for kubuntu......(i installed kubuntu from apt-getting a kubuntu-desktop package from an UBUNTU server base install)
[01:35] <Excaliber> and she has a slow ass pc
[01:35] <Excaliber> oops language
[01:36] <spariticus_rex> Excaliber: sorry, nothing else works that I know of. .daa is proprietary and doesn't have native support in linux.
[01:36] <Excaliber> crap
[01:36] <Excaliber> so you want me to go on windows for what again?
[01:36] <Riddell> !sources
[01:36] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:37] <Riddell> wubrgamer: ^^
[01:37] <wubrgamer> hmm?
[01:37] <spariticus_rex> Excaliber: You have to copy the file over somehow (burn it to cd if you have to), then download PowerISO onto her computer, and use it to open the file.
[01:37] <wubrgamer> oh
[01:37] <wubrgamer> does kubuntu use the standard ubuntu repositories ?
[01:37] <wubrgamer> no matter HOW i install ?
[01:38] <wubrgamer> cause i KNOW how to enable repositories (done it before.......but i used nano..........)
[01:38] <grzesiek> hi! I just did a clean install of dapper and I can't print... system settings after a long wait gives me something like "can't connect to cups"... anyone can help me? it did work for me just a few days ago...
[01:38] <Excaliber> i want it on my pc
[01:38] <Excaliber> not hers
[01:38] <Riddell> wubrgamer: it uses the same respositorys as ubuntu
[01:39] <spariticus_rex> Excaliber: once you open it on her computer, you can copy it back and install it.
[01:39] <Riddell> grzesiek: known problem, what did you install from?
[01:39] <Excaliber> .exe file?
[01:39] <wubrgamer> riddel: thkn you
[01:39] <wubrgamer> plenty
[01:39] <spariticus_rex> It should end up as .exe
[01:39] <wubrgamer> you guys are awesome..........
[01:39] <grzesiek> Riddel: from a dapper daily build cd. and did dist-upgrade today.
[01:40] <nexus10> grzesiek: what does /etc/init.d/cupsys status show? Is the cupsd daemon running?
[01:42] <grzesiek> says cupsd is running
[01:44] <nexus10> grzesiek: maybe try /etc/init.d/cupsys restart ? The Windows strategy...
[01:44] <grzesiek> checked it already, still nothing
[01:45] <nexus10> grzesiek: sorry, not sure I can offer more sensible advice.
[01:45] <grzesiek> thanks for trying anyway!
[01:45] <nexus10> Anyone here got any idea where I could find some docs on getting kdeprintfax talking to my faxmodem?
[01:48] <normal123> hey
[01:48] <normal123> where do i add perl libs
[01:48] <normal123> what folder
[01:49] <normal123> =\
[01:50] <grzesiek> anyone else has ideas about the printing problem? Riddell, you said it's a known bug, is there some info about it on the forums, wikis, anywhere?
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[01:52] <Riddell> nalioth: ping, you're on freenode's staff list
[01:53] <Riddell> nalioth: well, he's left now
[01:53] <nalioth> Riddell: where are we forwarding to?
[01:53] <Riddell> nalioth: how do you mean?
[01:54] <Riddell> grzesiek: you could try upgrading to pitti's cups 1.2 rc2 packages, see ubuntu-devel mailing list
[01:54] <MatthewJD> if i just installed, what is the root password ?
[01:55] <Excaliber> yeah
[01:55] <grzesiek> Riddell: thanks, I'm going reading...
[01:55] <nexus10> MatthewJD: if you want to run a command as root, type     sudo command
[01:55] <MatthewJD> ahh
[01:56] <nexus10> MatthewJD: then type in your user password
[01:56] <nexus10> MatthewJD: if you get sick of doing this try     sudo su -
[01:56] <spariticus_rex> Anyone know how to get swsusp working with Kubuntu? I have a pretty stock install, but don't see any option for suspending in my Kmenu.
[01:56] <nexus10> MatthewJD: but then the Ubuntu Thought Police may come and hunt you down
[01:57] <nalioth> nexus10: please don't do that
[01:58] <nexus10> nalioth: sorry -- don't do what?
[01:58] <nalioth> nexus10: advise sudo su
[01:58] <nalioth> !root
[01:58] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:59] <spariticus_rex> Anyone know?
[01:59] <MatthewJD> is ther a handbook ? I'mlooking for basics, like setting up tcpip
[01:59] <spariticus_rex> I'd like to add "suspend" to my Kmenu
[01:59] <nexus10> nalioth: ok, wilco. Are there any docs on /why/ root login is disabled?
[02:00] <nalioth> nexus10: *buntu was designed that way
[02:00] <nexus10> nalioth: it's a good answer :-) Thanks.
[02:00] <nalioth> nexus10: you can read the URL the bot posted
[02:01] <nexus10> nalioth: yup, read it before - ta.
[02:02] <spariticus_rex> Well, I guess not... :-(
[02:08] <joey^^> has anyone else had problems running frostwire? specificially with runFrost.sh which returns errors.
[02:09] <joey^^> i'm using the debian install package. i know i can get it running by running the jar file directly, but i would prefer to use the normal install process
[02:13] <grzesiek> Riddell, I've upgraded to cups packages you pointed me to, but it still doesn't work :(
[02:15] <_jeff_> hey guys
[02:15] <_jeff_> whats everyones favourite p2p a
[02:15] <_jeff_> *app
[02:15] <Riddell> scp
[02:15] <jeroenvrp> _jeff_: mldonkey
[02:16] <_jeff_> whats scp?
[02:16] <Riddell> man scp
[02:17] <jeroenvrp> I'm afraid scp has nothing to with p2p
[02:17] <jeroenvrp> :-)
[02:17] <_jeff_> lol ok
[02:17] <jeroenvrp> _jeff_: did you tried mldonkey?
[02:17] <_jeff_> lol i dont remember
[02:18] <_jeff_> but im checking it out now
[02:18] <jeroenvrp> yes please
[02:18] <jeroenvrp> are you on breezy or dapper?
[02:18] <_jeff_> breezy
[02:18] <_jeff_> i use apollon right now
[02:18] <jeroenvrp> mmh ok
[02:18] <_jeff_> and it kind of sucks
[02:18] <jeroenvrp> depends
[02:18] <jeroenvrp> what are you looking for
[02:18] <_jeff_> even with plugins
[02:19] <_jeff_> it can barely hold connections
[02:19] <jeroenvrp> what is the mldonkey version on breezy
[02:19] <_jeff_> even if there are like 40 people with the file, it will just sit there and not download
[02:19] <jeroenvrp> ?
[02:20] <_jeff_> apollon
[02:21] <jeroenvrp> _jeff_: anyway, if you need a mldonkey deb, just shoot - its compiled on dapper, but I don't think it will give problems on breezy - version 2.7.5
[02:21] <_jeff_> hmm
[02:22] <_jeff_> ok thanks
[02:22] <jeroenvrp> _jeff_: you want it?
[02:23] <_jeff_> yes please
[02:24] <_jeff_> is it ok in kde?
[02:24] <jeroenvrp> _jeff_: mldonkey is gui-less, but
[02:24] <jeroenvrp> you have a webinterface by default, that rocks
[02:24] <jeroenvrp> and
[02:24] <jeroenvrp> you have kmldonkey
[02:24] <jeroenvrp> is kde
[02:25] <_jeff_> alright cool
[02:25] <_jeff_> thanks
[02:25] <jeroenvrp> but also sancho, thats gtk/java, but is beter than kmldonkey
[02:25] <jeroenvrp> I use sancho, but most off the time only the webinterface
[02:25] <_jeff_> hmm
[02:26] <_jeff_> the java based ones kind of bother me
[02:26] <jeroenvrp> mldonkey has emule/edonkey and bittorrent
[02:26] <jeroenvrp> _jeff_: not its not java
[02:26] <_jeff_> they work well, but they are very resource heavy
[02:26] <_jeff_> o
[02:26] <_jeff_> sancho you say?
[02:27] <jeroenvrp> its SWT-GTK2 i
[02:27] <jeroenvrp> http://sancho-gui.sourceforge.net/download.phtml
[02:27] <jeroenvrp> anyhow proberly you are very satisfied with the mldonkey web-gui
[02:28] <_jeff_> lol ok
[02:35] <nexus10> Please could anyone help me interpret a settings string in KDEPrintFax? Somehow     %dev_{DEV=@@}     is, I /think/ setting the DEV var passed to /usr/bin/fax
[02:38] <_jeff_> jeroenvrp: i installed the .deb but i dont think it made a menu entry
[02:38] <nexus10> This is in the "Command" string in the GUI dialog. I am happy to specify the device explicitly in the 'fax' script, but it seems to be getting overridden by this 'DEV=@@' string. Any idea what I should be reading?
[02:38] <_jeff_> jeroenvrp: how do you open the program?
[02:38] <jeroenvrp> _jeff_: thats normal
[02:39] <jeroenvrp> open a terminal
[02:39] <jeroenvrp> eg konsole
[02:39] <jeroenvrp> its a daemon
[02:40] <jeroenvrp> the first time its good to open it in a terminal
[02:40] <jeroenvrp> the next time just ooen it via kde-menu > run command
[02:40] <jeroenvrp> type: mlnet
[02:40] <_jeff_> ok then what
[02:40] <_jeff_> ok
[02:41] <_jeff_> ok the daemon is running
[02:41] <_jeff_> now what?
[02:41] <jeroenvrp> great
[02:41] <jeroenvrp> now go to http://localhost:4080
[02:43] <jeroenvrp> _jeff_: for more info etc see the great http://mldonkey.sourceforge.net/Main_Page
[02:43] <Snake__> Why are KDE apps so slow on gnome, and vise-versa?
[02:44] <_martynda> cause gnome sucks
[02:44] <Snake__> _martynda: real answers help.
[02:44] <jeroenvrp> Snake__: because KDE and Gnome use different linaries
[02:45] <jeroenvrp> libaries
[02:45] <_martynda> jeez sorry, they use different libraries Qt vs GTK
[02:45] <Snake__> jeroenvrp: but when you download the program that library comes with it.
[02:45] <jeroenvrp> yes
[02:45] <Snake__> And I know that they have GTK and QT, but the whole program itself just seems slower, your DE shouldnt effect that
[02:45] <jeroenvrp> but if you run KDE it has to launch those libaries
[02:45] <jeroenvrp> and vica versa
[02:46] <Snake__> jeroenvrp: ahhh tru.dat. make sense :)
[02:46] <jeroenvrp> Snake__: when its loaded I dont see any difference in speed
[02:46] <_martynda> you're really just running more stuff in the background, so it's slower
[02:47] <jeroenvrp> but that depends on your cpu etcv
[02:49] <humbolt> what I hate most about either gnome and kde and the whole xwindows is that app windows stop to be drawn correctly when the app is stuck processing some bullshit (like email filters). It just looks so unprofessional.
[02:49] <jeroenvrp> humbolt: that depends on the app
[02:49] <jeroenvrp> kmail indeed does
[02:49] <humbolt> I thought so
[02:49] <raven301> I just installed kubuntu ... how do I set the root password?
[02:49] <Snake__> !root
[02:49] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:49] <jeroenvrp> raven301: it hasnt any
[02:49] <humbolt> sudo passwd root
[02:49] <Snake__> !sudo
[02:49] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:51] <jeroenvrp> humbolt: yes indeed: sudo passwd root
[02:51] <raven301> Thanks guys for the help
[02:51] <humbolt> easy one
[02:51] <jeroenvrp> raven301: thank the bot
[02:51] <Snake__> raven301: it is for better security that you use sudo
[02:51] <raven301> :)
[02:51] <djk_> that is a misconception..
[02:52] <Snake__> djk_: how is that a misconception
[02:52] <jeroenvrp> yes I dont think it has anything to do with sytem security, but everything with user security
[02:52] <jeroenvrp> 95% off the time I use sudo
[02:53] <jeroenvrp> 2% off the time sudo -i
[02:53] <Snake__> I just use sudo su when I want to stay root for a while
[02:53] <jeroenvrp> and 3% sux
[02:54] <jeroenvrp> sux rules :-)
[02:54] <jeroenvrp> thats form my suse and gentoo time - old habits dont go away :-)
[02:54] <humbolt> what is sux doing?
[02:54] <jeroenvrp> good question
[02:54] <raven301> when i use sudo passwd root it says Sorry, try again.?
[02:54] <jeroenvrp> easy answer
[02:55] <_jeff_> ok i started downloading something in ml donkey, will the daemon take care of all the transers? do i have to be on the page?
[02:55] <jeroenvrp> sux does the same as su + transfers X
[02:55] <humbolt> ah, so I can start an x app from the console as su
[02:55] <jeroenvrp> _jeff_: the daemon takes indeed care off that
[02:55] <jeroenvrp> humbolt: yezs
[02:56] <Snake__> You should be using gtksudo or kdesu for that
[02:56] <humbolt> like ssh root@localhost
[02:56] <jeroenvrp> _jeff_: so you can close your webbrowser, or any other mldonkey gui
[02:56] <jeroenvrp> Snake__: yes and no
[02:57] <jeroenvrp> Snake__: sux gives you a lot more info if something goes wrong or if you want to make a simple debug
[02:57] <Snake__> I see
[02:58] <_jeff_> awesome
[02:58] <_jeff_> thanks man
[02:58] <jeroenvrp> _jeff_: welcome in the wonderfull world of mldonkey :-)
[02:58] <jeroenvrp> dont forget to read the mldonkey-homepage
[02:58] <jeroenvrp> mldonkey is very advanced
[03:01] <jeroenvrp> cheers to you all
[03:02] <suspect> hello
[03:02] <suspect> i need hep with this program
[03:02] <_jeff_> lol ok
[03:02] <_jeff_> thanks jero
[03:02] <suspect> ya know about lmms
[03:02] <suspect> for fruity loops
[03:03] <suspect> to make music
[03:03] <suspect> how do i install that?
[03:03] <Snake__> suspect: are you on breezy?
[03:03] <suspect> im on kubuntu
[03:03] <Snake__> suspect: what version, dapper or breezy
[03:03] <suspect> i dont know
[03:03] <suspect> debian
[03:04] <Snake__> suspect: press ctrl+alt+f1 and tell me what it says (press ctrl+alt+F7 to come back to the screen your at right now)
[03:08] <kung> hi
[03:09] <kung> i'm a n00b :-)
[03:09] <kung> how do i get a list of the channels?
[03:12] <bimberi> kung: one way is to type /list - but don't do it! it's huge - hang on there is another way...
[03:12] <nalioth> kung: your client should have that facility in the tools menu
[03:12] <nalioth> dont do /list, kung it's huge and may flood you off
[03:12] <kung> i got it :-D
[03:13] <bimberi> kung: there's http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode
[03:14] <kung> join #ubuntu
[03:16] <suspect> ok
[03:16] <suspect> i have breezy
[03:17] <suspect> so how do install lmms its too confuding
[03:17] <suspect> confusing
[03:17] <kung> i have dapper :P
[03:17] <kung> update suspect .....
[03:17] <kung> sudo dist-upgrade
[03:18] <suspect> command not found
[03:19] <kung> sorry it's " sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[03:19] <kung> then type your password
[03:19] <kung> sorry
[03:19] <kung> t might take more than one hour to download everything ....
[03:19] <suspect> why?
[03:19] <kung> then mayb another hour to install
[03:19] <suspect> what does this do?
[03:20] <kung> it upgrades to dapper
[03:20] <suspect> why?
[03:20] <suspect> why you want me to do this?
[03:20] <kung> you can just update your breezy
[03:20] <suspect> what for?
[03:20] <bimberi> suspect: you need to enable the universe repository to get lmms ...
[03:20] <bimberi> !universe
[03:20] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:20] <suspect> i just wanted to instal lmms
[03:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> suspect: Because, it's easier to help people when you're running the same version of things.
[03:21] <kung> you said u were having probs ... i thought first thing to do is to update :-)
[03:21] <kung> :-S
[03:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> That too. :)
[03:21] <suspect> well its done
[03:21] <suspect> its done
[03:21] <kung> ok good
[03:22] <suspect> mozilla firefox 1.08?
[03:22] <kung> anyone here got an amd64 ubuntu with an ati graphic board to run xgl ?
[03:22] <suspect> omg
[03:22] <suspect> i want to run lmms
[03:22] <suspect> i need it
[03:22] <suspect> to make music
[03:22] <kung> i have that ... what is ur prob?
[03:23] <suspect> sorry
[03:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> 'sudo apt-get install lmms' should work
[03:23] <Snake[Away] > suspect: what are you running
[03:23] <kung> enable the repository as ubotu told you and install using synaptic
[03:23] <suspect> kubuntu
[03:23] <Snake[Away] > CheeseBurgerMan: its not in the breezy repos
[03:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> It's in mine...
[03:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> :P
[03:23] <Snake[Away] > CheeseBurgerMan: are you on dapper
[03:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> No
[03:23] <Snake[Away] > CheeseBurgerMan: hmmm thats not fair
[03:23] <suspect> im on breezy
[03:24] <Snake[Away] > it wasnt in my breezy repos..
[03:24] <Snake[Away] > !info lmms
[03:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[03:24] <Snake[Away] > CheeseBurgerMan: Package 'lmms' does not exist.
[03:24] <Snake[Away] > check your sources buddy
[03:24] <bimberi> yes, not in breezy :/
[03:24] <bimberi> !info lmms dapper
[03:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> I'd know if I was on dapper...
[03:24] <ubotu> lmms: (Linux Multimedia Studio), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.1.2-1 (dapper), Packaged size: 1189 kB, Installed size: 2492 kB
[03:24] <kung> anyone here got an amd64 ubuntu with an ati graphic board to run xgl ?
[03:24] <bimberi> but is in dapper
[03:24] <suspect> wait when i did that command it changed to dapper?
[03:25] <suspect> how do i change it to dapper?
[03:25] <Snake[Away] > suspect: its a b1tch to get running in breezy, because of outdated librarys, you could wait until June 1st and get dapper (or go get the beta now?)
[03:25] <Snake[Away] > suspect: its the next version of kubuntu, you would need to go download a ISO, please note its still in testing
[03:25] <suspect> oh man
[03:25] <suspect> but one of ya have dapper?
[03:25] <Snake[Away] > I do
[03:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/670529 <-- There's my sources.list, and the search results for lmms
[03:26] <suspect> can i install it on breezy?
[03:27] <Snake[Away] > CheeseBurgerMan: pull it, see if it works, I think your getting it from the backports
[03:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> kung: Not I. I've got amd64 Kubuntu, but I'm still on Breezy as I said.
[03:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> Snake[Away] : Installing...
[03:27] <bimberi> CheeseBurgerMan: show us 'apt-cache policy lmms'
[03:27] <suspect> look can someone with breezy just tell me a easy way to install lmms
[03:27] <suspect> ?
[03:28] <Snake[Away] > suspect: were working on it
[03:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> bimberi: Sure, once it's done doing this. ;)
[03:28] <Snake[Away] > suspect: slow down
[03:28] <bimberi> CheeseBurgerMan: kk :)
[03:28] <suspect> i dont have much time thats why
[03:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/670535
[03:29] <Snake[Away] > CheeseBurgerMan: yep its from the backports
[03:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah.
[03:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> I assume that's not what he wants?
[03:30] <Snake[Away] > suspect: in a terminal type "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[03:30] <suspect> W: Unable to locate package lmms
[03:30] <suspect> thats what happened when i typed the command in the link
[03:30] <Snake[Away] > suspect: ill hook you up, just tell me when youve done that
[03:31] <Excaliber> i did that like 50 secs ago
[03:31] <Excaliber> lol
[03:31] <Snake[Away] > Excaliber: okay, add "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse" to the bottom of that page
[03:31] <Snake[Away] > then save it
[03:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> Then 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install lmms' :P
[03:32] <Excaliber> add deb multiverse?
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> Add everything in the quotes
[03:32] <Excaliber> i don;t know how to do that
[03:32] <Snake__> Excaliber: theres a huge line there to do, everything I qupoted
[03:32] <Snake__> Excaliber: copy and paste that line into the bottom of the filr
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> Excaliber: Copy & Paste
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[03:32] <Excaliber> without the qoutes
[03:32] <Excaliber> ?
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> yep
[03:33] <Excaliber> but how do i add it?
[03:33] <Snake__> Excaliber: just copy and paste it into the end of the document
[03:33] <Snake__> then save the document
[03:33] <Excaliber> what document?
[03:34] <Excaliber> i dont get this
[03:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK
[03:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> You have Kate open, right?
[03:34] <Snake__> Excaliber: did you "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" ??
[03:34] <Excaliber> no
[03:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> Do it. :)
[03:35] <Snake__> Excaliber: type that into a konsole
[03:35] <Excaliber> i have konqueror
[03:35] <Excaliber> up
[03:35] <kung> why doesn't he just use echo to send that to the file ?
[03:35] <Snake__> kung: because I would like him to be familer with his sources.list
[03:35] <Snake__> Excaliber: Please for god sake just type the command I just told you
[03:35] <kung> ok don't bite :O
[03:36] <Snake__> kung: im not, just saying :)
[03:36] <kung> no worries :-)
[03:36] <bimberi> ah, backports aren't in ubotu's knowledgebase
[03:36] <Excaliber> ok i have aources.list-kate open
[03:36] <Excaliber> sources*
[03:36] <Snake__> Excaliber: now add that deb lin I told you a while back
[03:37] <Excaliber> just add it anywhere?
[03:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> On a new line at the bottom
[03:37] <Snake__> Excaliber: add it to the end on a new line
[03:37] <Excaliber> ok i did
[03:37] <Excaliber> what now save it?
[03:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yep
[03:37] <Excaliber> to desktop?
[03:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> No, just save it
[03:37] <Snake__> no just click save
[03:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> Then 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install lmms'
[03:37] <Excaliber> ok it saved
[03:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> in a console
[03:38] <Excaliber> with the quotes?
[03:38] <Snake__> no
[03:38] <Excaliber> oh ok
[03:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> Nope -- the quotes are just to distinquish where the command it. :)
[03:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> is*
[03:38] <Excaliber> its installing
[03:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> :)
[03:39] <publius> good day
[03:39] <Excaliber> then how do i open it?
[03:39] <Excaliber> just go to the menu?
[03:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> run 'lmms' in the console
[03:39] <Snake__> Excaliber: apt+f2 type in lmms and click run
[03:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hello, publius.
[03:39] <Snake__> or do what CheeseBurgerMan said
[03:39] <Excaliber> what?
[03:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> In the console you have open, type 'lmms'
[03:40] <Snake__> Excaliber: either type lmms in a console, or type Atl+F2 and type lmms there
[03:40] <Excaliber> there was alot of warnings but will it stilll work?
[03:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> Dunno, did it work?
[03:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> You have to tell me. :)
[03:40] <Excaliber> hol on
[03:40] <Excaliber> ok i typed lmms
[03:40] <Excaliber> and then i pressed enter and some setupp came up
[03:40] <Snake__> Then it works
[03:40] <Snake__> Congrads
[03:41] <Excaliber> Thank you.
[03:41] <Excaliber> = )
[03:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> :)
[03:41] <Excaliber> should i put samples as a link or copy?
[03:41] <publius> So, I've just freshly installed Kubuntu. Used to use Ubuntu
[03:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> Welcome to the blue side. :P
[03:41] <Excaliber> nvm
[03:41] <publius> thanks :)
[03:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> Excaliber: You're on your own with lmms now (at least as far as I'm concerned), I've never used it
[03:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> publius: Have a problem, with the big blue K?
[03:43] <publius> just one. I can't get the kmenu to show any changes i make from the KDE Menu Editor
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> Did you make sure you saved it? ;)
[03:43] <publius> yah.
[03:43] <publius> I saved it with the save icon, the save menu item, and ctrl+s
[03:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> What change did you make? Did you try to edit a menu like 'Debian' which isn't shown by default?
[03:45] <publius> I installed Firefox and tried to add a new firefox item in the Internet menu
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> Try restarting kicker.
[03:47] <Zenethian> Can someone hint me towards the procedure for mapping these fancy "multimedia" keys on my keyboard to doing something?
[03:47] <publius> kill -9 or log out & log back in?
[03:48] <kung> that's not easy Zenethian ....
[03:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> publius: I actually don't know what 'kill -9' would do - the only way I know is 'sudo killall kicker' then pressing Alt+F2, and running 'kicker'. Logging out and back in would work too.
[03:48] <kung> wat kind of keyboard u have ?
[03:49] <CheeseBurgerMan> Zenethian: KeyTouch should be able to do it, although you may have to work a bit...
[03:49] <publius> k. Before i try that, When i save my changes in the menu editor, if i close the editor and open it again, the changes are not there.
[03:49] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://keytouch.sf.net/
[03:50] <publius> So that leads me to believe that it's the menu editor failing to save, rather than the kmenu process failing to read.
[03:50] <Zenethian> erm, I know there's an easier way than this... hehe
[03:50] <Zenethian> I did it once before in kde 3.2
[03:50] <Zenethian> I just don't remember how.
[03:51] <CheeseBurgerMan> publius: Well, since I'm not sure where the menu editor saves the file, I'm not sure where to point you.
[03:52] <publius> k
[03:52] <publius> well i'll give it a go. Thanks!
[03:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> Good luck
[03:52] <publius> :)
[03:55] <CheeseBurgerMan> Did it work?
[03:56] <publius> it worked!
[03:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> :D
[03:56] <publius> CheeseBurgerMan is awesome
[03:56] <publius> Thanks!
[03:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> You're welcome. :)
[03:58] <publius> Now, What do you know about apache...
[03:58] <publius> :-P
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[03:58] <publius> just kidding
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> Good, 'cause I know nothing about it. ;)
[04:11] <Karl> Zenethian: there's also "bindkeys" http://hocwp.free.fr/xbindkeys/xbindkeys.html
[04:12] <Zenethian> hmm
[04:12] <Zenethian> that sounds familiar.
[04:12] <Zenethian> I think that's what I had used previously
[04:18] <Karl> ok keytouch is better :-p
[04:18] <Karl> just tryed it ;-)
[04:18] <Karl> thx CheeseBurgerMan
[04:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> NP
[04:19] <_abbenormal> hey guys how do i change my system for utf-8 to something else where do i start at
[04:19] <_abbenormal> from
[04:22] <Karl> hey, how do u put keytouch to be launched in every login?
[04:22] <joey^^> !codecs
[04:22] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[04:22] <joey^^> !easysource
[04:22] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:29] <Karl> how do u configure an aplication to be automatically launched in every login?
[04:38] <Hobbsee> Karl: symlink in ~/.kde/Autostart
[04:42] <laszlok> Karl: put a link in ~/.kde/Autostart
[04:45] <Karl> thx
[04:45] <Karl> and many programs?
[04:45] <Karl> aaaaah ok ok
[04:46] <Karl> thx ;-)
[04:54] <_jeff_> ahh
[04:54] <_jeff_> excuse me
[04:54] <_jeff_> lol
[04:54] <DeadS0ul> hehehe
[04:55] <spariticus_rex> how do you *do* something (like clap) in IRC?
[04:55] <Cheapy> /me
[04:55] <Cheapy> like
[04:56] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[04:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hello
[04:57] <spariticus_rex> hey there
[04:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> No, that's not how people are usually greeted.
[04:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> But I guess spariticus_rex thinks highly of you...
[04:57] <_jeff_> lol what?
[04:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> hehe
[04:57] <DeadS0ul> =|
[04:57] <DeadS0ul> CheeseBurgerMan: nice nick...
[04:57] <_jeff_> lol
[04:58] <_jeff_> does anybody here use last.fm on kubuntu?
[04:58] <kosh> what is last.fm?
[04:58] <_jeff_> its a social music network
[04:58] <DeadS0ul> it's a music matching social network
[04:58] <kosh> then no I don't use it
[04:58] <DeadS0ul> amarok supports it in 1.4
[04:58] <BluesKaj> I guessyou guys already know about kubuntu issues with AMD 64 machines...I've tried the fixes on the the net but it still fails after the startx command ...any suggestions ?
[04:59] <_jeff_> you tell it what kind of music you like, it will build a database based on player statistics
[04:59] <_jeff_> and match you with others of the same tastes and allow you to listen to songs that they like
[05:00] <_jeff_> deads0ul: awesome, i think my repos for amarok packages are broken though :(
[05:00] <suspect> hey
[05:00] <_jeff_> hey man
[05:00] <kosh> ah I don't really see the point
[05:00] <spariticus_rex> heya suspect
[05:00] <suspect> can someone show me how dapper kubuntu looks like?
[05:00] <DeadS0ul> really? i thought kubuntu already put up the packages for 1.4
[05:00] <robotgeek> i just love being sterotyped :)
[05:00] <_jeff_> its just so you can listen to music that you might like
[05:01] <suspect> dapper?
[05:01] <DeadS0ul> suspect: the login screen looks crappy
[05:01] <suspect> lol
[05:01] <spariticus_rex> what?
[05:01] <suspect> just show me a pic
[05:01] <DeadS0ul> i can't fucking change it either
[05:01] <robotgeek> !coc
[05:01] <ubotu> coc is, like, totally, the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[05:01] <_jeff_> lol
[05:01] <robotgeek> DeadS0ul: you can change it from login manager
[05:01] <suspect> can someone show me dapper kubuntu
[05:01] <DeadS0ul> tried that
[05:01] <suspect> ?
[05:01] <robotgeek> DeadS0ul, use alt + f2, type "kcontrol" in the text box, and hit the <enter> key
[05:02] <robotgeek> suspect: hmm, screenshots must be on osdir or distrowatch
[05:02] <suspect> send me a link
[05:02] <robotgeek> suspect: sorry, i won't spoonfeed you
[05:02] <spariticus_rex> suspect: have you checked out shots.osdir.org
[05:02] <DeadS0ul> kde doens't let me su in dapper for some reason after I enabled root logons
[05:02] <spariticus_rex> http://shots.osdir.org
[05:02] <kosh> out of curiosity is anyone having an issue with the kdm on dapper showing fragments of the last logged in desktop to the right of the login box?
[05:03] <spariticus_rex> No, I'm not...
[05:03] <kosh> I have been playing around with it but have not figured out how it is doing that
[05:03] <glick> what is the name of the package that contains make and gdb and all those other developer goodies?
[05:03] <kosh> especially since I can reboot and it will show me weird fragments of what I had on my desktops before I rebooted
[05:03] <robotgeek> glick: build-essential
[05:03] <DeadS0ul> kosh: naw nothing like that here
[05:03] <robotgeek> you'll have to install gdb yourself, glick
[05:04] <DeadS0ul> robotgeek: I'm in the login manager, I don't see antyhign that lets me change the theme =\
[05:04] <kosh> I will probalby remove and purge kdm and add it back in and see if that fixes it, however it is an issue I have never seen before
[05:04] <suspect> does it look nice dapper?
[05:05] <suspect> does dapper look nice?
[05:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> Better than Breezy IMHO
[05:05] <suspect> how do i install it?
[05:05] <DeadS0ul> yeah dapper is pretty cool
[05:05] <robotgeek> DeadS0ul: i guess you select the background separately, and the splash screen separately
[05:05] <suspect> the beta?
[05:05] <kosh> I don't really see much of a change
[05:05] <spariticus_rex> i like it a lot
[05:05] <suspect> apt-get dapper?
[05:05] <DeadS0ul> the splash screen is fine
[05:05] <spariticus_rex> but it looks a lot like the breezy
[05:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> suspect: No, you have to download & install it like you did Breezy
[05:06] <robotgeek> DeadS0ul: might have to do it manually, not very sure sorry
[05:06] <suspect> ok
[05:06] <suspect> how?
[05:06] <suspect> where?
[05:06] <DeadS0ul> suspect: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and change 'breezy' to 'dapper'
[05:06] <DeadS0ul> suspect: then run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:06] <kosh> umm
[05:06] <DeadS0ul> suspect: it might break though but it usually works
[05:06] <kosh> don't do that
[05:06] <suspect> where do i edit?
[05:07] <suspect> how?
[05:07] <kosh> 1) you will probably make x not start anymore until you fix the symlink
[05:07] <robotgeek> !enter
[05:07] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[05:07] <kosh> 2) unless you REALLY know what you are doing you should not be upgrading to dapper
[05:07] <suspect> well how?
[05:07] <DeadS0ul> ah
[05:08] <robotgeek> suspect: cdimage.ubuntu.com has the iso, but you should probably not be using dapper
[05:08] <DeadS0ul> suspect: download the iso from www.kubuntu.org, try out the live cd first so you can have a sample of it
[05:08] <kosh> dapper is a development release so that things can be tested and bugs can be worked out
[05:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> suspect: If you just want it to look like Dapper, get the Crystal Window Decoration from KDE-look.org
[05:08] <DeadS0ul> kosh: where do I report bugs?
[05:08] <kosh> suspect: unless you are a linux expert I would not be running dapper
[05:08] <suspect> lol
[05:08] <robotgeek> suspect: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/ for what it matters
[05:08] <suspect> i just wanna see the features
[05:08] <suspect> and im on kubuntu
[05:08] <DeadS0ul> live cd then man
[05:09] <DeadS0ul> it doesn't change your system
[05:09] <suspect> i know!!
[05:09] <spariticus_rex> kosh: why do you say that?
[05:09] <suspect> god lol
[05:09] <kosh> DeadS0ul: not realy sure to be honest, I have found very few bugs so far and most have been because of things that where left around on my machine
[05:09] <kosh> spariticus_rex: because dapper has had things break many times while doing upgrades and the odds are that unless someone knows what they are doing they won't be able to get it fixed
[05:09] <robotgeek> DeadS0ul: you report bugs on launchpad
[05:09] <DeadS0ul> robotgeek: luanchpad eh, I gues I'll have to google that later
[05:10] <robotgeek> DeadS0ul: check pm :)
[05:10] <spariticus_rex> kosh: I suppose so...
[05:10] <kosh> spariticus_rex: for instance it seems that nearly every upgrade to x wipes out the /usr/bin/X symlink which makes X no longer start until you repair the symlink it should be pointing to Xorg
[05:10] <robotgeek> kosh: i never has to do that?
[05:10] <suspect> i want dapper
[05:10] <DeadS0ul> robotgeek: checked, clicked on, and opend up in konq
[05:10] <suspect> to see how it is
[05:10] <spariticus_rex> kosh: do you know why?? it seems like the devs should work on that.
[05:10] <suspect> and no i don't want a live cd
[05:11] <robotgeek> suspect: well, i gave you a link
[05:11] <kosh> spariticus_rex: I have not figured out why it does that yet but it has been reported
[05:11] <suspect> so stop telling me
[05:11] <DeadS0ul> suspect: fine, then make another partition and install dapper on it =P
[05:11] <robotgeek> suspect: it's your system, do as you please
[05:11] <suspect> and but is it good?
[05:11] <spariticus_rex> suspect: I think so!
[05:12] <suspect> lol
[05:12] <suspect> ys have it
[05:12] <suspect> ya should know
[05:12] <suspect> ya*
[05:12] <robotgeek> suspect: pelase don't use enter as punctuation
[05:12] <suspect> ok
[05:14] <suspect> so how do install it again?
[05:14] <robotgeek> suspect: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/install/
[05:15] <suspect> this is ubuntu man
[05:15] <robotgeek> suspect: same install
[05:15] <suspect> i know how to install ububntu already
[05:15] <DeadS0ul> man dropping the enter punctuation habit is gonna be hard to drop, I started with IMs and not irc
[05:15] <suspect> ubuntu*
[05:15] <DeadS0ul> suspect: what're you worried bout then?
[05:15] <robotgeek> suspect: well, it is the same procedure
[05:15] <suspect> dont you need a cd?
[05:16] <spariticus_rex> Here you go: download this file: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/dapper-install-i386.iso , burn to CD, boot from CD, follow instructions, have fun!
[05:16] <DeadS0ul> suspect: downlaoding the cd is part of the procedure man =P
[05:16] <DeadS0ul> suspect: just put it on a seperate partition
[05:16] <suspect> how long will it tyake?
[05:16] <suspect> take*
[05:16] <DeadS0ul> suspect: bout an hour =P
[05:16] <_jeff_> long lol
[05:17] <robotgeek> suspect: depends on your speed, maybe you will prefer a torrent
[05:17] <spariticus_rex> suspect: depends on your connection. mine takes about 5 hours to download CD, then half an hour toinstall
[05:17] <suspect> i have optimum online
[05:17] <_jeff_> yeah its about 700 mb
[05:17] <suspect> takes like 30 mins
[05:17] <_jeff_> ok good
[05:17] <_jeff_> anybody use a composite manager?
[05:17] <suspect> but when i clcik the link it said open with
[05:17] <_jeff_> for true transparency and shadows
[05:18] <_martynda> suspect: save to disk, then burn it with k3b
[05:18] <suspect> i have to open with
[05:18] <suspect> when i click the link
[05:18] <mzinz> I just compiled a theme for Kubuntu but now what?  I did ./configure, make, and make install
[05:18] <_jeff_> you could copy the link location and use wget to download it
[05:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> suspect: open a console and type 'wget http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/dapper-install-i386.iso'
[05:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[05:18] <_jeff_> if you dont mind downloading with the terminal
[05:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> mzinz: Control Center > Appearance & Themes > Window Decorations
[05:19] <_martynda> suspect: you could also copy and paste the link in your browser and then save it to disk
[05:19] <_jeff_> cheeseburgerman: lol
[05:19] <BluesKaj> Any one know where i can find this distro, Ubuntu-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 ?
[05:19] <suspect> where is it saving at?
[05:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> suspect: ~
[05:19] <spariticus_rex> you tell me... lol
[05:20] <_martynda> to your home dir
[05:20] <robotgeek> suspect: current dir
[05:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> spariticus_rex: By default is't the directory the console is in, which, when you start out, is ~
[05:20] <mzinz> CheeseBurgerMan: whats the command name to open up Control Center? KControl doesn't work in katapult
[05:20] <_jeff_> blueskaj: lol no, i dont know
[05:20] <suspect> 17 mins left
[05:20] <suspect> damn i love my connection
[05:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> mzinz: K Menu > Run > kcontrol
[05:20] <_jeff_> mzinz: kcontrol
[05:21] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: i think you are looking for Ubuntu Breezy
[05:21] <mzinz> _jeff_: doesn't work in katapult
[05:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> mzinz: Which is why you go to run. :)
[05:21] <_jeff_> or he could press alt+f2 then type kcontrol
[05:21] <mzinz> CheeseBurgerMan: oh haha
[05:21] <_jeff_> mzinz: yeah, press alt+f2 to get the run dialog, then type kcontrol
[05:21] <mzinz> CheeseBurgerMan: the theme doesn't show up there either.. it was lipstick im trying to install
[05:22] <_jeff_> wouldnt that be a style?
[05:22] <spariticus_rex> isn't there a ubuntu package for that?
[05:22] <robotgeek> yeah, in dapper there is
[05:22] <_jeff_> yeah im pretty sure its in the repos
[05:22] <mzinz> spariticus_rex: maybe... i did ./configure, make, and make install
[05:22] <_jeff_> possibly universe
[05:22] <DeadS0ul> krun is cool, you can even hit alt + f2 and type ggi:PORN!
[05:22] <mzinz> _jeff_: ill check there.
[05:22] <mzinz> _jeff_: what does ./configure, make, and make install do... exactly?
[05:22] <_jeff_> deads0ul: lol really?
[05:22] <DeadS0ul> try it
[05:23] <DeadS0ul> ggi is images.google.com
[05:23] <BluesKaj> I ran the kubuntu live cd , no luck ...it just stalls
[05:23] <DeadS0ul> there are so many web shortcuts it's great
[05:23] <_jeff_> mzinz: configure checks out your computer to see if everythings there, make configures a build environment to install
[05:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> make install...installs
[05:23] <_jeff_> mzinz: then make install installs it
[05:23] <robotgeek> !compile
[05:23] <_jeff_> yeha
[05:23] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[05:23] <DeadS0ul> _jeff_: try imdb:porn hehe
[05:24] <mzinz> _jeff_: hmm.. so why doesn't my theme show uP?
[05:24] <_jeff_> lol
[05:24] <_jeff_> thats awesome
[05:24] <_jeff_> im gonna use that
[05:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> mzinz: Is it a window decoration, or a style?
[05:24] <_jeff_> yeah is it a windeco or style?
[05:24] <mzinz> CheeseBurgerMan: nevermind i see it no
[05:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> Good. :D
[05:25] <_jeff_> lol
[05:25] <_jeff_> where is everybody from?
[05:26] <_jeff_> im canadian
[05:26] <robotgeek> !kofftopic
[05:26] <ubotu> kofftopic is, like, Non Kubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #kubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[05:26] <_jeff_> lol screw off
[05:26] <robotgeek> _jeff_: i'm trying to make #kubuntu-offtopic popular :)
[05:26] <_jeff_> lol
[05:26] <mzinz> CheeseBurgerMan: where are styles stored on my computer? I need to replace the version i have with the old one
[05:27] <DeadS0ul> dammit I forgot my freenode password
[05:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> mzinz: I don't remember exactly.
[05:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> /usr/share/apps/kwin/ & /usr/lib/kde3/kwin
[05:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> Grr
[05:29] <BluesKaj> where can i DL the new k8 kernel pkg ?
[05:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> /usr/lib/kde3
[05:29] <_jeff_> lol hes just full of directory knowledge
[05:29] <spariticus_rex> how do i clear my run history in kde?
[05:29] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: is this a cd your are trying to boot?
[05:30] <BluesKaj> I tested with the live cd but it fails
[05:30] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: hmm, i think i saw something on the devel list, moment
[05:30] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: is this flight 6?
[05:31] <BluesKaj> apparently the newer 2.6 kernel with the K8 desu=ignation works on AMD 64 machines
[05:31] <BluesKaj> designation
[05:31] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: have you tried it with flight 6?
[05:31] <BluesKaj> sorry dunno what flight 6 is ?
[05:32] <davix> how do I configure my system locales?
[05:32] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-6/
[05:33] <robotgeek> davix: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[05:33] <spariticus_rex> How to clear run history?
[05:33] <davix> robotgeek, i tried, it just generates to locales already configured
[05:34] <robotgeek> davix: base-config, maybe?
[05:34] <davix> i'll try
[05:34] <davix> no such thing
[05:35] <robotgeek> davix: hmm, moment
[05:35] <davix> sure
[05:35] <BluesKaj> ok, robotgeek I found flight6 ...DLing as we speak...thx :)
[05:35] <robotgeek> davix: isn't there a gui you could do this in (for layouts and stuff) in System Settings -> Regions
[05:36] <davix> it's not for the layout
[05:36] <davix> just to remove some undeeded system locales
[05:36] <BluesKaj> robotgeek: , that's the latest kernel , the 2.6 ?
[05:36] <robotgeek> davix: you might need to isntall the language support pack, not very sure how to do it
[05:36] <robotgeek> davix: ah, okay. not sure, sorry
[05:39] <mzinz> How do i enable menu transparency in my themes?
[05:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> mzinz: Control Center > Appearence & Themes > Style > Effects tab
[05:40] <davix> THANKS robotgeek
[05:41] <mzinz> CheeseBurgerMan: software tint, software blend, xrender blend
[05:41] <mzinz> CheeseBurgerMan: whats the difference, which is the highest qual?
[05:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> I have not a clue
[05:42] <BluesKaj> anyway thx for the helps gents ...c ya later , 99
[05:51] <DeadS0ul> woo menu transparency =D
[06:00] <_jeff_> whats the package for flash in konqueror and stuff again?
[06:00] <robotgeek> _jeff_: breezy or dapper?
[06:01] <_jeff_> breeziness
[06:01] <robotgeek> hmm, flashplayer-nonfree or something like that
[06:01] <robotgeek> _jeff_, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:02] <_jeff_> ahh fine
[06:02] <mzinz> CheeseBurgerMan: when i try to download a .deb, it just tries to open it in Konquerer... resulting in a corrupt file.. what can i do?
[06:02] <_jeff_> you mean knoqueror opens it in kate and it results in corrupt file?
[06:02] <_jeff_> that happens for me too
[06:02] <robotgeek> mzinz: right click download?
[06:02] <mzinz> robotgeek: not a direct link..
[06:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> mzinz: You could also try KGet.
[06:02] <_jeff_> kde-look right?
[06:02] <mzinz> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=13969
[06:02] <mzinz> _jeff_: yeah
[06:03] <_jeff_> lol
[06:03] <_jeff_> i get the same problems
[06:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> I use Firefox with FlashGot and KGet. ;)
[06:03] <mzinz> CheeseBurgerMan: well ive been using Konquerer.. maybe i should just use it for file browsing though
[06:03] <_jeff_> i love konqueror though
[06:03] <mzinz> CheeseBurgerMan: do most people use it for internet browsing as well?
[06:03] <DeadS0ul> i'm all apt-get baby
[06:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> mzinz: You can continue using Konqeuror
[06:04] <_jeff_> its so fast even with many tabs open
[06:04] <_jeff_> unlike firefox
[06:04] <_jeff_> ;)
[06:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> But it doesn't have NoScript, ForecastFox, and all the other extensions I use. :)
[06:04] <mzinz> Well.. how can i download this .deb??
[06:04] <DeadS0ul> _jeff_:  *cough* ggi:porn *cough*
[06:04] <_jeff_> deads0ul: yeah console + apt-get rules over any package manager
[06:05] <kosh> konqueror uses about 1/10th the memory of firefox or less
[06:05] <kosh> what does the noscript extension do?
[06:05] <spariticus_rex> DeadS0ul: what is with you and ggi?
[06:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> Allows you to enable javascript for only certain sites.
[06:05] <_jeff_> deads0ul: *cough* WINK *cough*
[06:05] <DeadS0ul> web shortcuts in general acutally
[06:06] <_jeff_> spart, ggi is google image search
[06:06] <_jeff_> ggi:porn is google image search for porn
[06:07] <spariticus_rex> i know that, but what is with your obsession with pr0n?
[06:07] <spariticus_rex> heh/
[06:07] <_jeff_> deads0ul: yakuake+apt-get/apt-cache=dominance
[06:07] <DeadS0ul> spariticus_rex: i'm a guy..
[06:07] <_jeff_> lol
[06:07] <spariticus_rex> so'm I...
[06:07] <DeadS0ul> whats' yakuake?
[06:08] <_jeff_> its a console like the quake console
[06:08] <_jeff_> you press f12 and it slide in from the top of the screen
[06:08] <DeadS0ul> this I gotta try out
[06:08] <_jeff_> you type ur command and click something else and it goes away
[06:08] <_jeff_> and it looks good
[06:08] <_jeff_> has pseudo transparency
[06:08] <spariticus_rex> wow! is it part of dapper repos?
[06:09] <_jeff_> i think you can find the .deb on kde-look
[06:09] <_jeff_> i dotn know
[06:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> It's in the breezy repos too...
[06:09] <_jeff_> search kde-look
[06:09] <_jeff_> lol err try the repos first
[06:09] <_jeff_> its pretty cool though
[06:09] <spariticus_rex> it is part of dapper repos!
[06:10] <spariticus_rex> and at ~70k it's hard to resist.
[06:10] <_jeff_> also xcompmgr is cool too
[06:10] <_jeff_> you can get true transparency and shadows on windows
[06:10] <DeadS0ul> sweet jesus
[06:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> Woooooooooooooow
[06:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> That's very cool. :)
[06:10] <spariticus_rex> if only it would work with my hardware...
[06:10] <_jeff_> and it doesnt suck or waste a lot of resources
[06:10] <spariticus_rex> my poor Radeon 7500 mobile won't handle it very well, i don't think
[06:11] <_jeff_> lol im on a radeon M6 and it works pretty well
[06:11] <_jeff_> and my video card is lame
[06:11] <_jeff_> there isnt even a driver for my card
[06:11] <spariticus_rex> Know of any good guides for getting 3D (with comp) working for my card?
[06:12] <_jeff_> apt-cache search fglrx
[06:12] <_jeff_> try that
[06:12] <spariticus_rex> ahh, unfortunately fglrx doesn't support my graphics card...
[06:12] <_jeff_> lol it doesnt supprt mine either
[06:12] <DeadS0ul> just installed xcomp-mgar
[06:12] <_jeff_> ::(
[06:12] <DeadS0ul> how do I configure it?
[06:13] <_jeff_> you have to add some stuff to ur xorg.conf
[06:13] <spariticus_rex> _jeff_: and you have transparency that doesn't destroy your system's performance?
[06:13] <_jeff_> if anybody knows where i can find it i can tell you what to add
[06:13] <_jeff_> sparticus: it gets a bit slow with fullscreen windows, but otherwise its great
[06:14] <DeadS0ul> i gotta go to work
[06:14] <DeadS0ul> I'll cya guys later
[06:14] <spariticus_rex> cya
[06:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> Later
[06:14] <_jeff_> take it easy man
[06:14] <_jeff_> but
[06:14] <_jeff_> dude hold on
[06:14] <DeadS0ul> hmm?
[06:14] <_jeff_> ur kwin will crash every now and then if you dont add that stuff to ur xorg.conf
[06:14] <DjDarkman> hy can someone give me an example on how to unrar a file in the current directory?
[06:15] <_jeff_> when that happens you just have to get to a krun or console and type kwin
[06:15] <DeadS0ul> I see
[06:15] <DeadS0ul> i'm gonna get late if I don't leave now, can you just e-mail me some simple instructions?
[06:15] <_jeff_> it will tell you what to add to ur xorg.conf file too
[06:15] <_jeff_> yeah
[06:15] <DjDarkman> (in the cli)
[06:15] <_jeff_> whats ur email
[06:15] <DeadS0ul> spawn57@yahoo.com
[06:15] <_jeff_> ok cool
[06:15] <_jeff_> take it easy
[06:15] <DeadS0ul> you too
[06:15] <DeadS0ul> cya
[06:15] <spariticus_rex> DjDarkman: man unrar
[06:16] <spariticus_rex> that will give you the instructions for use.
[06:16] <DjDarkman> spariticus_rex: tried it but doesn`t have example
[06:16] <spariticus_rex> unrar e NAME.rar
[06:16] <spariticus_rex> I think...
[06:17] <DjDarkman> ohhh thanks spariticus_rex i wrote unrar -e name.rar
[06:17] <spariticus_rex> ahh.
[06:22] <_jeff_> does anybody know where the xorg.conf file is?
[06:22] <robotgeek> _jeff_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:22] <robotgeek> _jeff_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:22] <robotgeek> is also useful
[06:22] <_jeff_> what for?
[06:23] <spariticus_rex> reconfiguring xorg if necessary.
[06:23] <_jeff_> ok cool
[06:23] <_jeff_> thanks
[06:27] <ExcaliBer> hello
[06:27] <ExcaliBer> ok i think i instaslled dapper
[06:27] <ExcaliBer> i dont knwo though
[06:27] <ExcaliBer> i did sudo apt-get update
[06:27] <ExcaliBer> then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base
[06:29] <suspect> hello
[06:29] <suspect> i need help please
[06:29] <Excaliber> PLEASE!!!!!!!!
[06:30] <robotgeek> Excaliber: help you with what?
[06:30] <Excaliber> dapper
[06:30] <Excaliber> i did the update
[06:30] <robotgeek> Excaliber: what with dapper? (did we not warn you earlier)
[06:30] <Excaliber> sudo apt-get update
[06:30] <Excaliber> then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base
[06:31] <robotgeek> Excaliber: did you not download the cd iso?
[06:31] <Excaliber> no
[06:31] <robotgeek> Excaliber: cause you are not making sense at all
[06:31] <Excaliber> yeah
[06:31] <Excaliber> when i try burning it the linux crashesh
[06:31] <Excaliber> crashes
[06:32] <kosh> the entire linux box crashes when you burn a cd? it is not just the single program that is dieing?
[06:34] <Excaliber> when i put cdimage burn
[06:34] <Excaliber> it crashes
[06:34] <kosh> what crashes? just the cd program?
[06:34] <Excaliber> no the whole os
[06:35] <Excaliber> and is this upgrade real or beta?
[06:35] <kosh> hmm the only way I know of that trying to burn a cd would crash the os would be a hardware issue
[06:36] <Excaliber> like the mouse laggs
[06:36] <Excaliber> the cursor start lagging
[06:36] <Excaliber> and then freezes
[06:36] <Excaliber> thatw as random
[06:36] <Excaliber> lol
[06:37] <kosh> it sounds like a hardware issue
[06:38] <Excaliber> will dapper come with kubuntu/
[06:38] <Excaliber> ?
[06:38] <kosh> there will be a kubuntu for dapper yes
[06:39] <Excaliber> cool
[06:40] <Excaliber> you have dapper?
[06:42] <Hobbsee> Excaliber: there's one now...
[06:42] <Hobbsee> !+upgrade
[06:42] <ubotu> I guess upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html
[07:10] <hupp3l> hey
[07:10] <hupp3l> how can I access files from my windows partition?
[07:13] <davix> can I make hddtemp work for a normal user and not root only?
[07:13] <Hobbsee> !+windowsdrives
[07:13] <ubotu> windowsdrives is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[07:16] <Chaks> hi all
[07:16] <Chaks> how good is kubuntu to be as server ?
[07:17] <Chaks> thick server for thin clients
[07:31] <noaXess> can somebody check my xorg.conf http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/670751 , i want install dapper drake 6 fl6 on my asus notebook w1v, x starts but the monitor doesn't come up
[07:47] <noaXess> in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-42bafbcee7a10ed50f2d9016555557b9874be252 there is the aticonfig tool.. but where to get this?
[07:56] <atul> hi I just upgraded to dapper, my kde taskbar is all screwed up. Can anyone help?
[08:00] <atul> anybody here??
[08:06] <noaXess> yea
[08:06] <noaXess> me
[08:06] <noaXess> i dunno about your problem.. cause i can't install dapper
[08:07] <noaXess> my x11 want start :(
[08:09] <Hobbsee> hmmm...he left
[08:09] <Hobbsee> noaXess: i think there was someone else with that problem...
[08:17] <noaXess> Hobbsee: yea?.. i just try now update/upgrade system from command and then try again..
[08:17] <Hobbsee> does !xhangs fix it?
[08:17] <Hobbsee> !+xhangs
[08:17] <ubotu> If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority
[08:17] <noaXess> the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg works fine.. no errors..
[08:17] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[08:19] <noaXess> Hobbsee: after dpkg-reconf.. i can start kde and monitor is still blank... i can do a ctrl+alt+f1 and go back with alt+f8.. no change
[08:19] <noaXess> fist upgrade.. then test next steps..
[08:19] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[08:19] <Hobbsee> what type of video card do you have?
[08:20] <noaXess> Hobbsee: on apt-get upgrade there are some xserver-xorg packages..
[08:20] <Hobbsee> yep, upgrade them then..
[08:20] <noaXess> ato radeon mobility x700 128mb
[08:20] <noaXess> ..ati..
[08:20] <noaXess> its an asus w1v notebook with max res. 1680x1050
[08:21] <noaXess> http://www.asusnotebook.ch/detail_W1V.html
[08:21] <noaXess> i want test it and write a notebook test wiki..
[08:23] <mornfall> it's biiig
[08:23] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[08:27] <noaXess> how can i check, which driver is installed and used?
[08:27] <noaXess> ...which grafic driver..
[08:31] <Pupeno> Hello.
[08:31] <Pupeno> Do you know a program to convert between timezones ?
[08:33] <Meatme> that;s like asking if danny has ever met an ass he can't rub his face in
[08:35] <Hobbsee> Meatme: that's inappropriate
[08:35] <Hobbsee> Pupeno: check timeanddate.com
[08:35] <callie> yo
[08:36] <callie> wot up?
[08:36] <callie> who's lost X?
[08:36] <Hobbsee> noaXess: found the person who had trouble earlier
[08:36] <mornfall> Meatme: what are you up to?
[08:37] <mornfall> Pupeno: kde clock can show you current time in different zones btw
[08:38] <callie> as i recall all i did Hobbsee was delete .Xauthority and .ICEauthority and regenerate my xorg.conf, that seemed to sort it all out for me
[08:38] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[08:38] <Pupeno> mornfall: I know, I use that. But someone tells me something happens at 7pm CET and I dan't have a clue even what CET is.
[08:38] <mornfall> Pupeno: central european time -- mine :)
[08:38] <Hobbsee> Pupeno: timeanddate.com
[08:38] <callie> central european time Pupeno
[08:38] <Hobbsee> :P
[08:38] <mornfall> well, CEST now :)
[08:38] <callie> lol
[08:38] <mornfall> (central european summer time)
[08:39] <mornfall> daylight savings and all
[08:39] <mornfall> GMT+2
[08:39] <Pupeno> timeanddate.com doesn't know what CET is.
[08:39] <mornfall> GMT+1 during winter
[08:39] <Hobbsee> drat
[08:39] <callie> weird that i happened to look at xchat just now Hobbsee
[08:41] <noaXess> Hobbsee: who?
[08:42] <Hobbsee> noaXess: callie
[08:42] <noaXess> callie: hi.. you had problem with an ati grafic to start X?
[08:43] <callie> noaXess, no im running Nvidia here
[08:44] <callie> just out of curiosity noaXess did it happen after update/dist-upgrade?
[08:45] <noaXess> callie: now, fresh install dapper drake 6, it starts, x starts but monitor still blank
[08:46] <callie> ah, dont think i can help you then noaXess, im running 5.10 here, tried #ubuntu+1 ?
[08:47] <Hobbsee> oh i thought you were using dapper
[08:49] <noaXess> callie: ok.. thx
[08:51] <Dasnipa`> woot woot for #ubuntu+2   yay edgy eft
[08:58] <nalioth_zZz> Dasnipa`: there will be no #ubuntu+2
[08:59] <Dasnipa`> oh there already is,,, apparently "tritium_ made me do it" says the topic
[09:00] <Meatme> mornfall Meatme: what are you up to?
[09:01] <Meatme> searching of course
[09:01] <Meatme> hey, anyone play with the alpha1 release of Simply_Mepis?
[09:03] <Meatme> trying to figure out if it is possible to retain the ability to change resolutions after installing the nvidia driver
[09:03] <Meatme> so far, no luck
[09:04] <Meatme> and damned if i know why
[09:04] <Meatme> well, i know why
[09:04] <Meatme> looking for a work around
[09:14] <tyler> How do I make the clock in Kubuntu not use military time?
[09:23] <BlankC> tyler: right click on the clock and select 'Dat and time format'
[09:48] <C-O-L-T> Where is Kubuntu/Ubuntu BETA, today is April the 20th
[09:51] <C-O-L-T> Riddell: Where is Kubuntu BETA? Today is April the 20th
[09:51] <C-O-L-T> ??
[09:51] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: Riddell is likely asleep
[09:52] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: what do you know about Kubuntu BETA?
[09:52] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: it should be out imminently, i think.
[09:54] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: I am asking it because I am going after this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule, and today Dapper Drake Beta should be out
[09:55] <MrKev1n> !dapper release
[09:56] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MrKev1n
[09:56] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperBeta is the most up to date thing i've seen
[09:56] <MrKev1n> !dapper
[09:56] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[09:57] <MrKev1n> C-O-L-T use the tinyurl link!
[09:58] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: ubuntu beta isnt out yet either. just wait
[09:59] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: now appeared the beta version. SO PEOPLE AROUND HERE KUBUNTU BETA IS NOW OUT
[10:00] <Hobbsee> what?
[10:00] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: where's the direct link for that?
[10:00] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: go down on the page and you can download the beta versiom
[10:00] <Hobbsee> no, those current links point to flight 6
[10:00] <Hobbsee> besides, i'ts only 8am UTC - that's still ages in the day for it to be released
[10:02] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: I am in Romania you know that is why here Beta should be out. In a few hours it will be there because they made the Beta pages look for this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta?highlight=%28beta%29
[10:02] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: I have not looked at the iso images but I think that soon they change the address
[10:02] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: it was a small mistake
[10:02] <C-O-L-T> )
[10:02] <C-O-L-T> :)
[10:04] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: at the top of the page writes work in progress so they are making the page now probably, loading iso's and so on
[10:04] <MrKev1n> ubuntu release code is 6-06 representing 6th month release in 2006
[10:05] <MrKev1n> the beta release for dapppper has been out for some months... the frozen stable release will be on 1st June
[10:05] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: no, the ubuntu pages are in UTC time, as people are from all over the world, and it's only 8am in UTC time.  it was said it would be some time on the 20th
[10:05] <Hobbsee> Riddell: is in the UK, and probably isnt even awake yet.
[10:06] <C-O-L-T> MrKev1n: no you are mistaken the things. There were out just Flight releases, this is the BETA testing release
[10:07] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: I see, I understand I know that now in UK is around 8 o' clock here is 11 o' clock
[10:07] <Hobbsee> yes
[10:07] <Hobbsee> here, it's 6pm 20/4
[10:08] <MrKev1n> C-O-L-T: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule
[10:08] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: anyway they are making the page's for both derivatives right now so soon we will see the iso's over there
[10:08] <Hobbsee> yes
[10:09] <C-O-L-T> MrKev1n: I have read thousand times, look at it April the 20th Beta release and look to these pages if you don't believe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta?highlight=%28beta%29
[10:09] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: I am excited about the beta, would like to try cause I switched to fedora :)
[10:09] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: you can grab flight 6, update, and you'll have close to the beta
[10:10] <Hobbsee> they're all just snapshots, and you can go from any snapshot, update, and get to the latest version...
[10:11] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: I know, but the main problem of it, I had flight 5 but always crashed when I made documents in oo.org so it was not a stable flight for me, that is why I decided to switch to fedora which was the first stable distro having GNOME 2.14 and KDE 3.5
[10:11] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: I would like to try just the live cd of the beta
[10:11] <Hobbsee> beta will have it's problems too...
[10:12] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: I know, the final release will be the perfect one
[10:12] <chavo> C-O-L-T, there are daily iso releases also
[10:12] <chavo> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20060420/
[10:12] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: I really like this channel because here people don't kick you if you talk with somebody about another distro :)
[10:12] <Hobbsee> hehe
[10:13] <chavo> no were just secretly plotting our revenge in the background
[10:13] <chavo> oops
[10:13] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: so as I see now everybody is around Dapper Beta, not I am the only one interested in it :)
[10:14] <chavo> C-O-L-T, I've been running dapper for months
[10:15] <C-O-L-T> chavo: that is neither the BETA release nor the FINAL-STABLE release
[10:16] <chavo> good lord man stop shouting at me
[10:16] <chavo> I dont make the damn thing
[10:16] <chavo> I dont owe you anything buddy
[10:16] <C-O-L-T> chavo: I am not shouting, I just highlighted the main points ideas :). Don't be angry, I am sorry
[10:17] <chavo> well the point were all trying to make is that BETA is just a name, dapper is very stable
[10:18] <C-O-L-T> chavo: Dapper is not a stable distribution, now shapes up, beta is just a step after flights. The final release will be shipped out at 1 June
[10:18] <C-O-L-T> !dapper
[10:18] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[10:19] <chavo> ok thanks for clearing things up buddy
[10:19] <C-O-L-T> chavo: look at this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule
[10:21] <C-O-L-T> chavo: where are you from buddy :)?
[10:21] <MrKev1n> C-O-L-T: what are you after ? there have been BETA releases for some time. The final release (stable) release is 1st June
[10:21] <Hobbsee> MrKev1n: true, but they've been called different things
[10:21] <MrKev1n> :)
[10:22] <C-O-L-T> MrKev1n:  no it is not the same, there were Flight releases
[10:22] <C-O-L-T> not BETA :)
[10:22] <C-O-L-T> MrKev1n: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule
[10:22] <C-O-L-T> MrKev1n:  BETA unites all the developements during Flight series
[10:23] <MrKev1n> i just did an upgrade from breezy to dapper and have been getting upgrades each day... i have not used a flight or a beta or whatever... and i have had no problems for the last month!
[10:23] <C-O-L-T> MrKev1n: probably, but have not you noticed that you get 100 updates per day?
[10:23] <MrKev1n> yes... so what6?
[10:24] <MrKev1n> thats good as far as i am concerned..
[10:24] <MrKev1n> i pointed you to that last link 16 mins earlier
[10:26] <MrKev1n> C-O-L-T: I am just trying to help you... i will leave here for a while so that my stress levels dont go any higher...:(
[10:26] <C-O-L-T> MrKev1n: I upgraded too, but for be the upgrade crashed and I needed to reinstall everything, and then I installed Flight 5 and crashed a few times at opening OO.org Writer
[10:26] <chavo> MrKev1n, just /ignore him
[10:26] <C-O-L-T> chavo: I did not want to hurt anybody, but he does not understands the point
[10:27] <Hobbsee> chavo: it seems weird.  some of us have no problems, yet others cant boot.
[10:28] <Hobbsee> or have a blank screen when tehy login
[10:28] <C-O-L-T> We were talking to Hobbsee about the Beta release and he said always not 100% right things for me, and I just tried to explain him like to you that is why i highlighted a few words you too
[10:28] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: that is true for some works dapper for some can not even upgrade like I
[10:28] <C-O-L-T> D
[10:28] <C-O-L-T> :D
[10:29] <Hobbsee> why cant you upgrade?
[10:29] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: upgrade started and then at a moment I got an error and than everything crashed
[10:29] <Hobbsee> what error?
[10:30] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: I don't know, I don't remember, it was a month ago
[10:30] <Hobbsee> well it's likely been fixed by nwo
[10:30] <Hobbsee> did you file a bug for it?
[10:30] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee:  nope :)
[10:31] <Riddell> Hobbsee: hey :)
[10:32] <Hobbsee> morning Riddell - how are you going today?
[10:32] <Hobbsee> Riddell: do we have a current ETA for the beta?
[10:36] <GMullen> can someone sugest a noob guide to kubuntu
[10:36] <Tm_T> wiki.ubuntu.com :)
[10:36] <Hobbsee> GMullen: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UserDocumentation
[10:36] <Tm_T> !cli
[10:36] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[10:38] <GMullen> thx Hobb
[10:38] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: thanks for everything, need to go now, bye
[10:39] <Hobbsee> bye
[10:58] <bpm> can anybody help me to sync my windows mobile 5 device with kubuntu?
[11:12] <GMullen> can kubuntu read ntfs?
[11:12] <Tm_T> sure
[11:12] <GMullen> ok then i must not be doing this right
[11:12] <Eulchen> but not write :(
[11:12] <Tm_T> Eulchen: that can too, not with warranty, but yes, mostly works
[11:13] <Eulchen> ah good to know
[11:13] <bobyfixer> i love kubuntu
[11:13] <GMullen> i'm trying to get some video files from my XP pro partion
[11:13] <Tm_T> Eulchen: yeah, "not with warranty" means anything can happens with it :p
[11:13] <GMullen> but what i think is it mounted "folder" is locked
[11:14] <Eulchen> gmullen just look that your windows partition is mounted and enabled
[11:14] <Tm_T> GMullen: file rights are wrong, you have to add umask(?) parameter to mount/fstab
[11:14] <Eulchen> go system and enable
[11:14] <Tm_T> Eulchen: it's not always that simple ;)
[11:14] <GMullen> ....
[11:15] <GMullen> heh
[11:15] <Tm_T> GMullen: how you mounted it?
[11:15] <Tm_T> !ntfs
[11:15] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:15] <GMullen> i didn't
[11:15] <Tm_T> ;)
[11:15] <GMullen> but it wont let me mount
[11:15] <Tm_T> GMullen: ubotu knows lots of cool things just listen ;)
[11:15] <GMullen> saying already mounted
[11:15] <GMullen> kk
[11:17] <Eulchen> look in kdesktop kmenu system            go to file and mount points in admin mode you can set it right
[11:17] <Eulchen> make it that you own the windows partition
[11:19] <GMullen> ok
[11:20] <GMullen> no usable windows/mac partitions found
[11:20] <Eulchen> Gmullen have u looked in kdesktop system?
[11:22] <GMullen> no idea what that is
[11:23] <Eulchen> you have  k-menu topmost left
[11:23] <GMullen> yes
[11:23] <Eulchen> go system settings
[11:23] <GMullen> ok
[11:24] <Eulchen> then to disk and file settings  you must switch to admin
[11:24] <GMullen> ok
[11:24] <Eulchen> your windows is hda1
[11:24] <GMullen> sda1 yes
[11:25] <Eulchen> ok modify it that you and your group owns it ;)
[11:26] <GMullen> thank you
[11:26] <Eulchen> you welcome
[11:27] <Eulchen> media
[11:31] <Hobbsee> Eulchen: please kill that spam
[11:31] <Eulchen> yup
[11:32] <GMullen> can linux play *.wmv
[11:32] <Eulchen> im forbidden to spam ask hobsee
[11:33] <GMullen> never
[11:33] <GMullen> ...
[11:33] <GMullen> nevermind
[11:34] <GMullen> google's working again
[11:34] <Hobbsee> Eulchen: i meant the noatun messages :P
[11:35] <Hobbsee> noaXess: ping?
[11:36] <_tyler> I need a .aiz file to use as a plugin for this karabra thing.  On kde-look.org, it gave me a tarred folder... how can i uncompress and .aiz it?
[11:37] <Eulchen> you can choose from right mouse menu unpack or use the tarr command in termina
[11:38] <vinboy> how do I restart my X server without logging out??
[11:47] <e-coder> anybody there?
[11:47] <e-coder> need help with my xorg config
[12:00] <slow-motion> hallo
[12:10] <noiesmo> when I try to apt-get install nvidia-glx i'm am incountering a dpkg-divert from when I had ati card but i am unable to remove diversion is there a way to force install or modify the diversions file in /var/lib/dpkg without getting unexpected EOF
[12:19] <Kabal> Taskbar V2 - Is there a DEB file anywhere? Does anyone have this software?
[12:21] <nir> hello
[12:22] <nir> where i can get the most updated source.list configuration ?
[12:34] <otter42> Can anyone help with a compiler problem?
[12:34] <otter42> #define DATA_TYPE CV_32FC1
[12:34] <otter42> I get: gcc-3.4: installation problem, cannot exec `as'
[12:34] <otter42> (whoops. Disregard the #define DATA_TYPE...)
[12:35] <otter42> I've done research online, and nothing seems to give me an answer. I have installed 3.4 from adept, and I've used it to compile other things.
[12:41] <sYnie> hello
[12:42] <sYnie> is it possible to download the kernel sources (2.6.15-20 of dapper) with the same config, as the kernel-binary ?
[12:47] <Kabal> apt-get moo
[12:47] <Kabal>          (__)
[12:47] <Kabal>          (oo)
[12:47] <Kabal>    /------\/
[12:47] <Kabal>   / |    ||
[12:47] <Kabal>  *  /\---/\
[12:47] <Kabal>     ~~   ~~
[12:47] <Kabal> ...."Have you mooed today?"...
[01:00] <tara> sal
[01:09] <munzir> Hi, I have 3 pc's behind a router. two linux and one windows. the router automagically made nat rules like
[01:09] <munzir> Idx Type Interface       Outside Address                Inside Address                 Use
[01:09] <munzir>   1 NAPT Internet        96.50.33.43:51978             192.168.1.251:3142             1
[01:09] <munzir> where that internal ip is the windows one. Why those nat rules are set to windows only?
[01:11] <visik7> uh ?
[01:11] <visik7> u can redirect an external port only to one internal machine
[01:13] <munzir> visik7: yes the question which machine is choosen by default? I didn't made those rules
[01:14] <visik7> no one u choose probably by a web panel
[01:16] <kubuntutaotao> ktorrent crashed,signal 6 (SIGABRT)
[01:33] <munzir> visik7: no for sure I didn't. Unless windows convince the router to do this somehow!
[01:38] <visik7> munzir: maybe upnp
[01:40] <munzir> visik7: maybe. I will flush all those rules then and guess this won't interrupt the internet connection, right?
[01:40] <visik7> is a linux router ?
[01:41] <munzir> visik7: the router is a speedtouch 585i
[01:41] <visik7> yes but has linux inside ?
[01:48] <slow-motion> bbl
[02:16] <MrFaber> hi all
[02:16] <Hobbsee> hi
[02:17] <MrFaber> hi Hobbsee
[02:17] <MrFaber> I have problems with KDE and the Display section
[02:17] <MrFaber> Since I have changed the monitor power saving under display
[02:17] <MrFaber> my kde session starts with wrong resolution (1024x768 instead of 1366x768)
[02:17] <MrFaber> and I can only change resolution with krandrtray
[02:18] <MrFaber> The Display sections allows me only 1024 so it doesn't uses correct DPMS and no xorg
[02:18] <MrFaber> xorg.conf
[02:18] <MrFaber> What can I do?
[02:18] <MrFaber> If I delete my user profile KDE starts with correct solution
[02:18] <MrFaber> and KDM always has the correct one
[02:19] <Hobbsee> not sure on that, sorry
[02:20] <MrFaber> np, thanks
[02:20] <MrFaber> It is very weird, hm I should ask in Dapper channel
[02:21] <MrFaber> Does anyone knows where Display settings get saved?
[02:24] <Excaliber> hello
[02:26] <Excaliber> i need help
[02:26] <Excaliber> i installed dappper but i can't go on the desktop
[02:27] <Excaliber> hello?
[02:27] <Excaliber> hello
[02:29] <MrFaber> Excaliber: I would join #ubuntu+1
[02:31] <Excaliber> omg
[02:31] <Excaliber> they not helping
[02:32] <MrFaber> Excaliber: they are no full time workers for the price you paid for ubuntu
[02:33] <MrFaber> Excaliber: and Dapper is not stable
[02:36] <Hobbsee> !tell Excaliber about ask
[02:36] <Hobbsee> that might help you, in getting help
[02:43] <milestone> hi all
[02:44] <milestone> i have my kicker bar on top of the screen and an external windowbar on the bottom
[02:45] <milestone> is it possible to place other applets than the window bar itself into the windowbar? to get my kicker bar a little clearer?
[02:45] <milestone> i cannot dsrag the applets down
[02:45] <milestone> they remain on the kicker bar
[02:50] <milestone> any help is highly appreciated
[02:52] <Hobbsee> milestone: right click, move?
[02:52] <milestone> Hobbsee: as i said the remain on the main bar
[03:02] <_gonzo> hello
[03:02] <MrFaber> hi
[03:02] <MrFaber> I have found a solution for my problem
[03:02] <_gonzo> I seek a net-snmp advanced user
[03:02] <_gonzo> :)
[03:02] <MrFaber> Hobbsee: it was .kde/share/config/displayconfigrc
[03:02] <Hobbsee> MrFaber: ah....okay...
[03:03] <MrFaber> Hobbsee: don't know why KDE has its own Display sections which doesn't work with xorg.conf together
[03:24] <Danamania> ahh. it's a KDE 3.5+ bug. all good =). http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114658
[03:24] <Ubugtu> KDE bug 114658 in general "Konsole --noxft switch doesn't work" [Normal,New] 
[03:29] <pooh22> hi all
[03:30] <Hobbsee> hi
[03:30] <pooh22> is there an easy way to get wpa configured in dapper flight 6?
[03:30] <pooh22> the wireless system settings only talks about encryption, but not which WEP/WPA/WPA2 (but itlooks like WEP is implied)
[03:31] <pooh22> wpasupplicant is installed
[03:31] <Hobbsee> pooh22: install knetworkmanager, and do it from tehre
[03:31] <pooh22> Hobbsee, tnx I'll check that out
[03:32] <kubuntutaotao> does somebody know why ktorrent is always crashed?
[03:32] <Hobbsee> kubuntutaotao: define "always crashed" - what do you do to produce the crash?
[03:35] <Dru> lo all
[03:35] <Hobbsee> hi Dru
[03:35] <kubuntutaotao> Hobbsee:program KTorrent(ktorrent) had crashed,cause signal 6 (SIGABRT)
[03:35] <Hobbsee> can you pastebin the backtrace?
[03:35] <Hobbsee> (the other tab, on that dialog)
[03:35] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[03:35] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[03:36] <pooh22> Hobbsee, WOW! that's brilliant!!! :-)
[03:36] <Hobbsee> pooh22: i know!
[03:36] <kubuntutaotao> Hobbsee:when ktorrent start
[03:36] <Dru> anyone know where I can get the latest Wine .deb package as the wine repository still has .11
[03:36] <Hobbsee> kubuntutaotao: okay, and can you paste the debug/backtrace thingo to the pastebin please
[03:36] <Hobbsee> !+wine
[03:36] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run the majority of windows programs. To get wine installed, download http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wine/wine_0.9.10-winehq1-2_i386.deb then follow this guide to installing it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585 More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq
[03:37] <Hobbsee> Dru: try winehq.com
[03:37] <kubuntutaotao> Hobbsee:where?
[03:38] <Dru> OK just I looked on the WineHQ & the deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/ they give still has .11 if you look in it
[03:38] <Hobbsee> kubuntutaotao: the pastebin?  pastebin.com
[03:42] <Hobbsee> Dru: what's the latest?
[03:43] <Dru> .12
[03:43] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[03:43] <Hobbsee> Dru: compile it?
[03:45] <Hobbsee> !+compile
[03:45] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[03:45] <Hobbsee> Dru: ^
[03:46] <Dru> many thanks
[03:47] <Dru> only been testing Linux for 2 weeks lol, been using PC for 18 years so time to learn something new
[03:47] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:47] <Hobbsee> or just wait, either way
[03:47] <Dru> best to try things imho, or you never learn the juicy stuff
[03:48] <Hobbsee> true...then again, do you want to know?  :P
[03:48] <Snake[Sleep] > Dru: learn now so that your up to speed with *nix when vista hell is released upon the planet ;)
[03:48] <Dru> have only fobar my install once so far
[03:49] <Dru> my HW cannot handle M$ Vista so will not be going there
[03:49] <Snake[Sleep] > No ones hardware can
[03:50] <Dru> only thing stopping me converting my main PC is the missus using it
[03:50] <Snake[Sleep] > except dedicated PC gamers that invest $800 into their rig each time a new vid card is out
[03:50] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:50] <Hobbsee> only once?  that's pathetic
[03:50] <Dru> XP2000 768Mb 646GB HD space
[03:51] <Dru> the SCSI room heater machine
[03:51] <Dru> has 6HDs inside
[03:51] <Hobbsee> Snake[Sleep] : hehe
[03:51] <Snake[Sleep] > I got a prescott...not the coolest PC intel ever built
[03:52] <Snake[Sleep] > prc**
[03:52] <Dru> built this machine from scratch & added window etc
[03:52] <Snake[Sleep] > Dru: same
[03:52] <sml> is an installed 'live cd' the same result as just installing the 'install cd' ?
[03:52] <Snake[Word] > sml: how does one install a live cd (except dapper, in which case, yes)
[03:52] <Dru> Lian-Li case atacked with a jigsaw very nerve racking
[03:53] <condor> all at all
[03:53] <bpm> is ther a kubuntu kernel wich supports loadable modules?
[03:53] <condor> Somebody can help me?
[03:53] <sml> Snake: yes i recall dapper has the install icon on the desktop
[03:54] <condor> I'm don't speak english very well! !
[03:54] <Snake[Word] > sml: yes, dapper live disks use ubuntu, those are the same as an install
[03:54] <Snake[Word] > errrr not ubuntu, I ment expresso
[03:54] <thoreauputic> !it
[03:54] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:54] <Snake[Word] > sml: be warned its still in deep development, and failure rate is generally pretty high >.<
[03:54] <condor> i have installed Kubuntu 5.10 in my laptop but I can't listen to music..I don't know the reason
[03:55] <sml> Snake .... cool and one more question please :) ... if i just install updates to flight 5 will that give me flight 6 ?
[03:55] <Snake[Word] > sml: yep
[03:55] <sml> Snake ... cool .. i'll cancel my flight 6 download.
[03:56] <Dru> I still dont know what anything sounds like as I am testing on a Compaq EN SFF PIII 450 & I have not found a distro that recognises the onboard sound
[03:56] <Snake[Word] > sml: just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it should actually bring you PAST flight 6, and into beta
[03:57] <Hobbsee> Dru: in alsamixer, is everything turned up?  what about in kmix?  check that nothing's muted
[03:57] <Snake[Word] > alright im out
[03:57] <Snake[Word] > pz
[03:58] <Dru> see there is a new Debian released with some major bug fixes RC2
[03:59] <xwolf-> which program should i install to have .rar files created and unpacked?
[03:59] <h3sp4wn> rar
[04:00] <Dru> .tar you mean
[04:00] <xwolf-> no, .rar
[04:00] <justanotheruser> i think sudo updatedb & doesn't work here (it says bash: mypassword: command not found )
[04:01] <DeadS0ul> god dammit, kubuntu doesn't read my /etc/modprobe.d/asound config on boot time for some god damn reason
[04:11] <maximus> hi all
[04:11] <maximus> having a problem with kopete in breezy
[04:12] <maximus> it keeps crashing each time I go to Settings -> configure
[04:12] <maximus> any ideas?
[04:12] <Hobbsee> maximus: there's a bug already from this, you're welcome to contribute to it
[04:13] <Hobbsee> maximus: https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/37657
[04:13] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 37657 in kdenetwork kopete "Kopete Configure Crash" [Normal,Confirmed] 
[04:13] <_wombat> KOffice any betta than OpenOffice?
[04:14] <_wombat> oh hi and salutations trend setters
[04:14] <maximus> Hobbsee: hmm i guess no fix yet eh
[04:15] <maximus> maybe i should just upgrade to dapper
[04:15] <Dru> here you go what you think http://www.dru.own.it
[04:15] <Dru> been playing about
[04:16] <dereks> _wombat: thats a matter of opinion
[04:16] <_wombat> lol @ honeypot u lil fag
[04:17] <maximus> ?
[04:17] <_wombat> you need a DNS injection
[04:17] <dereks> LOL
[04:18] <Hobbsee> !+coc
[04:18] <ubotu> from memory, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[04:18] <Hobbsee> oh hi dereks
[04:18] <dereks> hey Hobbsee
[04:19] <_wombat> its an ok distro, I been playing with "damn small" ... its another ok distro.. f that was polite
[04:20] <dereks> _wombat: ok, whats your point? they serve 2 different purposes
[04:20] <_wombat> yeah
[04:20] <_wombat> they do
[04:22] <_wombat> "damn small" geared for older harware, but interestingly they learnt how to get tjhe OS to run entirely from RAM.. which.. maakes it lightning fast on any i386
[04:22] <_wombat> ubuntu has a more.. conventional approach... its, nice
[04:22] <_wombat> lol
[04:23] <_wombat> any aussies in the house
[04:24] <Hobbsee> _wombat: yeah
[04:24] <_wombat> moderator bots is a bit 1984
[04:24] <_wombat> this must be american er something
[04:25] <Mukmaster> Oh yea
[04:25] <dereks> _wombat: they wouldn't be needed if it wasn't for trolls
[04:25] <Mukmaster> Yea
[04:25] <Hobbsee> darn trolls
[04:25] <dereks> not mentioning names
[04:25] <_wombat> trolls? whats that
[04:26] <_wombat> you mean spamers?
[04:26] <Mukmaster> Oh ok here goes
[04:27] <Mukmaster> Does Kubuntu have any openGL suport
[04:27] <Mukmaster> I know i doesnt have directX becuse thats an M$ only thing
[04:27] <_wombat> prolly need nvidia drivers for X , yeah they're out for debian and this is a clone
[04:28] <Mukmaster> Sweet
[04:28] <Mukmaster> Hmm
[04:34] <_wombat> so hows ur breezy badger?
[04:34] <_wombat> ffs, what a pick up line
[04:34] <milestone> Can I have more than one kicker bar at the same time?
[04:34] <milestone> on on top and one at the bottom?
[04:35] <Hobbsee> milestone: yes, right click on kicker, add panel
[04:35] <_wombat> dunno, where's the techies?
[04:35] <Mgrvln> digikam wont detect my camera and using /media:/sda1 as a mount point wont work either. any ideas?
[04:35] <_wombat> where's that millionaire guy.. recall him from space top answer the questions
[04:36] <_wombat> nite
[04:36] <Hobbsee> Mgrvln: use /media/sda1
[04:36] <Mgrvln> k
[04:36] <Danamania> zzz here too
[04:36] <_wombat> same, you all aussie?
[04:37] <_wombat> i have a spare pillow
[04:37] <Mgrvln> Hobbsee nope
[04:37] <_wombat> yeah you are
[04:38] <milestone> Hobbsee thanx
[04:38] <milestone> finally i figured it out
[04:38] <_wombat> although Dana is american
[04:38] <Danamania> which dana?
[04:38] <_wombat> the name
[04:39] <_wombat> hey was there many fixes to Breezy Badger... lol, my ol man would turn in his grave
[04:40] <_wombat> i just spent half a day installing that pesky Badger
[04:40] <Danamania> or eastern european
[04:40] <_wombat> I was getting corrupt installations and all sorts
[04:40] <_wombat> yeah true east europe.. you are fropm there
[04:41] <Danamania> relatives on my dads side are
[04:41] <_wombat> eastern block country?
[04:41] <_wombat> ..u know like east germany and them
[04:42] <_wombat> before the re-unification
[04:42] <_wombat> yeah so I got it installed fine anywat
[04:42] <_wombat> anyway
[04:43] <_wombat> had to do it package by package with apt-get or it fell over
[04:43] <munzir> Hi, my /etc/hosts contains a line of 127.0.1.1, why not 127.0.0.1? what's this ip for?
[04:44] <_wombat> localhost
[04:44] <_wombat> thats you silly
[04:44] <_wombat> 127.0.0.1 is for localhost, good for testing stuff on a local server
[04:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> _wombat, i dont think 'you silly' is quite accurate
[04:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> hes asking about 1.1
[04:44] <_wombat> also known as a dhcp loopback address
[04:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> not 0.1
[04:45] <_wombat> but yeah localhost
[04:45] <munzir> Kamping_Kaiser: thax for you politeness
[04:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> munzir, i have to be, the ops know me in all my guises ;)
[04:46] <_wombat> ?welcome
[04:46] <munzir> _wombat: where is it that 1.1 is also localhost documented?
[04:47] <_wombat> dude I dunno, type localjost in wikipedia and read away
[04:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> munzir, the 127.0.0.x range is reserved for loopbacks and whatever you want to put there. afaik.
[04:47] <_wombat> localhost
[04:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> 1.1 isnt the standard loopback though
[04:47] <munzir> Kamping_Kaiser: yes 127.0.0.x but what about 127.0.x.x?
[04:48] <_wombat> nope its usually 127.0.0.1 infact i haven't ever seen it as anything else
[04:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> munzir, hte whole 127 range
[04:48] <munzir> Kamping_Kaiser: do you have dapper installed? can you check your hosts file?
[04:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> its um. /24 ?
[04:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> munzir, i do have dapper, but both are updated breezys, both at 0.1
[04:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> i have never seen loopback on 1.1 by default... but maybe i'm weird
[04:49] <_wombat> is dapper a better deal than breezy?
[04:49] <munzir> Kamping_Kaiser: yes, you are right. all the 127 range seems to be lo
[04:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> _wombat, imo yes, if only from the "openoffice works now" perspective
[04:50] <munzir> _wombat: definitely
[04:51] <munzir> _wombat: In linux world every  day carries new software features that someone really miss. Leave alone 8 months perios
[04:51] <munzir> networkmanager is really great
[04:52] <_wombat> strange, i just downloaded this distro but it turned out to be Breezy
[04:52] <_wombat> from the main site
[04:52] <dereks> _wombat: breezy is the current release
[04:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> _wombat, most likely - untill dapper is stable
[04:53] <_wombat> ah ok, I have open office on "damn small" already  .. those guys update regular
[04:54] <francesca> Ciao a tutti
[04:54] <_wombat> lol.. nite all
[04:54] <dereks> _wombat: ubuntu has a 6month release cycle, so you get updated packages every 6 months
[04:55] <_wombat> yeah
[04:55] <francesca> qualc1 parla italiano?
[04:55] <_wombat> i seen that, lol.. patience
[04:55] <Dru> well I installed 5.10 & did the system update, fair few packages updated
[04:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> !fr
[04:55] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> oops
[04:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> !it
[04:56] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:56] <francesca> kubuntu!!
[04:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> Dru, about 80mb probalby ;)
[04:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> francesca, english here, or another chan please :)
[04:58] <kubuntutaotao> does somebody know why my kaffeine can't start
[05:00] <francesca> I speak English..
[05:05] <joey^^> why isn't enemy-territory in the apt repositories?
[05:05] <ubuntu_> hello
[05:05] <ubuntu_> uhmm can i install ubuntu from the live cd?
[05:06] <ubuntu_> cuz i dontt have ubuntu installation cd
[05:06] <joey^^> ubuntu_: i don't think you can, but it might be possible
[05:06] <slawek> which is the newest kernel for kubuntu ?
[05:06] <freeflying-ibook> ubuntu_: you can have a try , do a backup firstly
[05:06] <ubuntu_> how?
[05:07] <_SoS_> ooohhhhhhhhhhh
[05:07] <ubuntu_> ummm
[05:07] <dereks> ubuntu_: you can, but with dapper not breezy (i believe)
[05:07] <_SoS_> helllo
[05:07] <joey^^> slawek: linuz-2.6.12-9-386
[05:07] <freeflying-ibook> ubuntu_: backup what you wanna
[05:08] <ubuntu_> i dont wanna backup anything
[05:08] <ubuntu_> sorry
[05:08] <joey^^> slawek: linuz-2.6.12-10-386*
[05:08] <joey^^> slawek: thats my latest one atleast
[05:08] <freeflying-ibook> ubuntu_: then just do intall
[05:08] <ubuntu_> install
[05:08] <ubuntu_> whats the command
[05:08] <ubuntu_> for the terminal/
[05:08] <ubuntu_> ?
[05:09] <joey^^> sudo apt-get install <package>
[05:09] <ubuntu_> hm?
[05:09] <dereks> ubuntu_: you don't want to backup anything?
[05:09] <ubuntu_> im on  LIVE CD
[05:09] <ubuntu_> ubuntu
[05:09] <dereks> you should ALWAYS backup your data when installing an os
[05:09] <freeflying-ibook> ubuntu you can run it from menu " install permentally
[05:09] <ubuntu_> where/
[05:10] <joey^^> ubuntu_: why not just download the installation cd?
[05:10] <ubuntu_> i cant
[05:10] <ubuntu_> im on the live cd
[05:10] <joey^^> why not?
[05:10] <dereks> ubuntu_: backup before you start
[05:10] <ubuntu_> and i dont have a os
[05:10] <slawek> 2.6.16.9 :)
[05:10] <joey^^> you can download it in the live cd
[05:10] <ubuntu_> i dont have a operating system
[05:10] <dereks> joey^^: thats the dapper cd i assume
[05:10] <dereks> ubuntu_: so?
[05:10] <ubuntu_> so can you send me a link/
[05:10] <ubuntu_> ?
[05:10] <slawek> i should have chacked it sooner :) http://www.kernel.org/
[05:11] <dereks> ubuntu_: you know when you repartition, you will lose all your datat
[05:11] <ubuntu_> i tried dapper earlier
[05:11] <dereks> *data
[05:11] <joey^^> http://ubuntu.hands.com/releases/kubuntu/5.10/
[05:11] <joey^^> select your arch etc
[05:12] <ubuntu_> save to disk?
[05:12] <joey^^> yes
[05:12] <joey^^> i think the live cd uses your ram as a virtual harddisk
[05:12] <joey^^> but i could be wrong
[05:14] <joey^^> you can burn the iso with k3b or something
[05:14] <joey^^> or cdrecord/growisofs
[05:19] <mitakka> hi please somebody help me, i need arial font cp 1251 for Mplayer, because all the subtitles in my language are made on Windows :( and so the ciryllic layout is 1251 and i only see ^(^%$##^&()^%^%  and unfortunately i do not speak this language :)
[05:20] <Cvaw> http://bigtitsroundasses.bangbros1.com/gal/298/p/bavideopost/  http://www.sog10.com/gallery01/c2100k/index.html
[05:23] <joey^^> !tell Cvaw about fonts
[05:23] <mitakka> cvaw???
[05:24] <mindspin> !tel mitakka about fonts
[05:24] <ubotu> mindspin: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:25] <mindspin> !tell mitakka about fonts
[05:25] <joey^^> !list keys repositories
[05:25] <ubotu> joey^^: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:25] <mitakka> ok
[05:25] <mitakka> the hope will be with me
[05:25] <joey^^> !repositories
[05:25] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:27] <mitakka> i know about repozitories and i will add these
[05:28] <mitakka> have i put "deb" in the first panel??
[05:28] <mitakka> column
[05:36] <ciga> hi
[05:37] <joey^^> howdy
[05:37] <mitakka> oooo from 10 minutes i am talking with a irc bot
[05:37] <mitakka> :(((((
[05:38] <ciga> I suspended my box to ram with kpowersave. I don't know how to come back from there... I pressed everything, nothing worked.
[05:38] <mitakka> finally a real human being :)))
[05:38] <joey^^> :P
[05:39] <ciga> a bot is not good enough?
[05:39] <ciga> :)
[05:39] <joey^^> anyone know why enemy-territory isn't in the apt repositories?
[05:40] <mitakka> yes i dont chat every day, i am skype fan and it take me a while to fuck it off
[05:41] <mitakka> why you need that
[05:41] <mitakka> compiling rulzzzzzzzzz
[05:41] <ganymed_> hallo
[05:42] <mitakka> guten tag :)))
[05:42] <ganymed_> i cannot play any video anymore, regardless of the player used. x just restarts... has anybody ever had this problem?
[05:42] <mitakka> reinstall
[05:43] <ganymed_> mitakka: of what? i have reinstalled all important x packages
[05:43] <joey^^> hallo ganymed: you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:43] <mitakka> of kubuntu
[05:43] <mitakka> :)))
[05:44] <mitakka> you will spend more time trying to fix the problem than to reinstall
[05:44] <ubuntu_> hi
[05:44] <ubuntu_> iw as just wondering
[05:44] <morrow> ganymed_: if its fglrx, try the option "VideoOverlay" "on"
[05:44] <ubuntu_> how do i mount a iso image>?
[05:44] <ubuntu_> on ubuntu?
[05:44] <mitakka> from cd-rom???
[05:45] <ubuntu_> no
[05:45] <ubuntu_> iso image
[05:45] <ubuntu_> i downloaded it
[05:45] <ubuntu_> gentoo minimal installer
[05:45] <ubuntu_> is that a full ionstallation?
[05:45] <joey^^> sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 <iso> <mount point>
[05:45] <mitakka> the easiest way is to write it to a cd
[05:45] <ubuntu_> but will a minimal installer install it permenantly?
[05:47] <ubuntu_> ?
[05:47] <Excaliber> wel
[05:47] <joey^^> ubuntu_: it will probably not install all extra packages, so you will have to manually install them
[05:47] <Excaliber> what will a minimal installer do?
[05:47] <mitakka> minimal installation
[05:47] <mitakka> :)
[05:47] <Excaliber> but will i ahvea  a kernel?
[05:48] <Excaliber> have*
[05:48] <joey^^> do a base installation i imagine
[05:48] <h3sp4wn> Excaliber: It will give you just enough to build you own kernel and install portage
[05:48] <h3sp4wn> Excaliber
[05:48] <Excaliber> yes?
[05:48] <h3sp4wn> :you use emerge to install the rest
[05:48] <joey^^> portage is gentoo lol
[05:48] <Excaliber> lol
[05:48] <joey^^> this is debian based, we use apt :)
[05:49] <Excaliber> = )
[05:49] <Excaliber> but will i have kernel?
[05:49] <joey^^> yes
[05:49] <Excaliber> if i do minimal installation
[05:49] <Excaliber> ?
[05:49] <ganymed_> morrow: thx, i was just busy
[05:49] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu_ (who changed his name to Excaliber) was talking about a gentoo minimal installer that he downloaded
[05:49] <Excaliber> yes
[05:50] <Excaliber> i wanna know if i will have kernel desktop?
[05:50] <thoreauputic> Excaliber: without a kernel, you would have no OS :)
[05:50] <Excaliber> kde desktop i meant
[05:50] <Excaliber> will i have a desktop
[05:50] <thoreauputic> ah
[05:50] <Excaliber> not terminal/
[05:50] <Excaliber> ?
[05:50] <GameCat> hi - can anyone tell me how to control the display power management while the machine is sitting waiting for someone to log in?
[05:50] <thoreauputic> Excaliber: the minimal install is cli only
[05:50] <joey^^> i doubt you will get loads of packages with minimal cd. just get full cd if you are worried
[05:50] <Excaliber> what is cli?
[05:51] <joey^^> command line interface
[05:51] <thoreauputic> Excaliber: to get KDE you would need to do  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:51] <Excaliber> on gentoo?
[05:51] <thoreauputic> Excaliber: so if you want KDE, install Kubuntu
[05:51] <Excaliber> why?
[05:51] <Excaliber> with gentoo?
[05:51] <thoreauputic> erm - this is Ubuntu/Kubuntu
[05:51] <joey^^> ^^
[05:51] <joey^^> lol
[05:51] <ganymed_> morrow: it is on, i'll switch it off. i have read it has sth. to do with the xv extension and the second monitor being activated but not plugged in
[05:52] <thoreauputic> Excaliber: to ask gento questions, /join #gentoo
[05:52] <morrow> ganymed_: deactivate it if you dont use the second monitor
[05:52] <Excaliber>  /join #gentoo
[05:52] <thoreauputic> Excaliber: without the leading space
[05:52] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:52] <Excaliber> ok
[05:54] <noaXess_kubuntu> how can i build a deb package from sources?
[05:54] <ganymed_> morrow: well, not always, but sometimes... i guess it's the ati driver
[05:56] <vgoel> hi all...is there any way to update breezy to dapper without burning a cd?  ie over the net?
[05:57] <ganymed_> ok, i also have problems with not being able to choose a keyboard model/layout in kcontrol... any ideas?
[06:01] <tixet> hello
[06:01] <Excaliber> where do i mount it?
[06:01] <Excaliber> what mount point?
[06:01] <Excaliber> i saved it to the desktop
[06:02] <Excaliber> sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 <iso> <Desktop>?
[06:02] <Excaliber> like that?
[06:03] <Excaliber> well?
[06:03] <Excaliber> the iso is on the desktop
[06:04] <Excaliber> hello?
[06:05] <Broxtor> I'm having some issues with my mouse in Dapper. I have one thumb button which I like to use. I put "Option" "Buttons" "6" and "Zaxismapping" "5 6" in my xorg.conf.
[06:05] <vge> Broxtor: what mouse is it?
[06:05] <Broxtor> Then when I run xmodmap -e "pointer=1 2 3 6 4 5" I get the error message saying I should have 10 buttons instead of 6.
[06:06] <Excaliber> ya help him right
[06:06] <Excaliber> ?
[06:06] <Broxtor> This used to work in Suse 9.3 though
[06:06] <Broxtor> vge: It's a Logitech MouseMan Wheel
[06:07] <hiasll> hi! anyone know an application to synchronise kontact with a mobile?
[06:08] <ciga> is not it kitchensync?
[06:08] <Broxtor> hiasll: Kitchensync seems to work for some people. I never got it work with my SE k750i though.
[06:09] <iqon> do i have to do anything special to get firefox to use the plastik theme?
[06:09] <ciga> iqon: I think you have the chance to force kde themes on gtk apps.
[06:09] <hiasll> Broxtor: well, i have a k750i too. :-/
[06:09] <Broxtor> :-)
[06:10] <iqon> ciga: how?
[06:10] <Broxtor> hiasll: I tried in Suse. Not yet in Kubuntu, so it might work.
[06:10] <ciga> kcontrol - colors - apply colors to non-KDE applications.
[06:10] <ciga> iqon: I hope this is for you.
[06:12] <tixet> agur
[06:12] <glenn> hello all :-)
[06:13] <vge> Broxtor: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=429098 <-- the last post helps?
[06:13] <iqon> ciga: i'll give it a shot
[06:13] <glenn> does n e 1 know how I can run apt-get at the same time as adept-updater?
[06:13] <vge> hups, i guess not, sry
[06:14] <ciga> glenn: I think you can not.
[06:14] <glenn> thats a bummer :-)
[06:15] <glenn> i am using 5.10 breezy and would like to juice up my graphics with new ver kde and also enlightenment - how do i install theses?
[06:15] <Broxtor> vge: Thanks anyway. When I give the command xmodmap -pp it tells me that I have 10 pointer buttons defined. Where can this be stored besides in xorg.conf?
[06:16] <ciga> glenn: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php
[06:16] <glenn> sweet :-) ta
[06:16] <vge> Broxtor: i dont know other place, but i dont know that mutch :)
[06:17] <joey^^> # Example sources.list for Ubuntu 5.10 "The Breezy Badger" release
[06:17] <joey^^> 
[06:17] <joey^^>  ## All officially supported packages, including security- and other updates
[06:17] <joey^^>  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[06:17] <joey^^>  deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[06:17] <joey^^>  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[06:17] <joey^^> 
[06:17] <joey^^>  ## The source pacakges
[06:17] <joey^^>  #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[06:17] <joey^^>  #deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[06:17] <joey^^>  #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[06:17] <joey^^> 
[06:17] <bhna> is there a problem in with adept in dapper? i have only an error-message. "...do apt-setup and apt-get update ..."
[06:17] <joey^^>  ## All community supported packages, including security- and other updates
[06:17] <joey^^>  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[06:17] <joey^^>  deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe multiverse
[06:18] <joey^^>  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates universe multiverse
[06:18] <joey^^> 
[06:18] <ciga> bhna: it works fine for me.
[06:18] <NoUse> !pastebin
[06:18] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[06:18] <joey^^>  ## The source pacakges
[06:18] <joey^^>  #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[06:18] <ciga> joey^^: please don't do this.
[06:18] <joey^^>  #deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe multiverse
[06:18] <joey^^>  #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates universe multiverse
[06:18] <joey^^> oops
[06:18] <joey^^> grr, konversation and it's copy/paste :/
[06:18] <joey^^> sorry for spam guys
[06:18] <bhna> joey^^: http://kubuntu.pastbin.com
[06:18] <joey^^> ye, i said it was accident
[06:18] <glenn> woah
[06:18] <bhna> ciga flight 6 or daily release?
[06:19] <ciga> bhna: I've upgraded from breezy. Now I have the freshest.
[06:20] <bhna> ciga: i have the daily cd from 20.04.2006 (today) and adept won't work
[06:20] <ciga> bhna: I have upgrade 3 packages with adept 20 minutes ago.
[06:21] <ciga> bhna: maybe try flight 6 and upgrade from there...
[06:21] <bhna> ciga: maybe, thank you.
[06:22] <glenn> is there a quick easy command that could almalgamate both ubuntu install stuff and kubuntu install stuff-- like both base systems in one?
[06:22] <glenn> almost and everything install?
[06:22] <glenn> like apt-get install everything
[06:23] <Tm_T> glenn: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop"
[06:23] <Tm_T> like that? ;)
[06:23] <glenn> yeah
[06:23] <ciga> yup, that's what I wanted to suggest
[06:23] <glenn> does it work?
[06:23] <ciga> :)
[06:23] <ciga> try and see :)
[06:23] <glenn> wicked --- thanks
[06:23] <glenn> u guys rule
[06:23] <Tm_T> I don't see why wouldn't
[06:23] <glenn> tru
[06:23] <Tm_T> ...rule and work =)
[06:23] <ciga> :)
[06:24] <Tm_T> anyway, seems to be bed time to me, good night :) ->
[06:28] <glenn> thanks for your help peeps - will catch ya l8er - now install on home pc - chow - nemesis
[06:35] <gan|y|med> hallo
[06:35] <gan|y|med> does anybody here have an ati card
[06:35] <gan|y|med> ?
[06:36] <DeadS0ul> nvidia here =D
[06:41] <_jeff> hey gangsters
[06:42] <_jeff> any last.fm listeners here?
[06:42] <jpatrick> me
[06:42] <gan|y|med> ok, i'll ask anyway. i have installed the newest drivers from ati... any clue where fglrxconfig has gone?
[06:43] <gan|y|med> how do i contact a staffer?
[06:45] <uniq>  gan|y|med saffer?
[06:46] <ciga> xorg-driver-fglrx: /usr/bin/aticonfig
[06:46] <ciga> gan|y|med: maybe
[06:47] <gan|y|med> well, i wanted to register my nick so that i can talk in #kde... my nick is given, so i tried this one -  given, too. now i have to conact an irc staffer according to the how to...
[06:50] <uniq> gan|y|med: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#helpfromstaff
[06:50] <gan|y|med> thx
[06:53] <cow_2001> beagled is started everytime i login through kdm into kde, how do i disable it?
[06:54] <jpatrick> cow_2001: do you have Kerry?
[06:55] <cow_2001> i've set it to not start every time
[06:57] <cow_2001> kerry, that is
[06:58] <jpatrick> hmm
[06:59] <cow_2001> kerry have an option to start beagled every login, but sadly there's no option to do the opposite
[06:59] <jpatrick> _jeff: http://www.last.fm/user/antidragon/
[07:03] <ralf> Hello in kubuntu-land. Anyone uses kino / dvgrab on dapper (ppc)?
[07:05] <MacAnthony> not on ppc
[07:06] <uniq> I use dapper on ppc.. but not dvgrab/kino.
[07:10] <_jeff> jpatrick: do you have the player working on kubuntu?
[07:10] <jpatrick> _jeff: yes
[07:12] <_jeff> uhm
[07:12] <_jeff> how?
[07:12] <_jeff> i have the player now, but when i paste a lastfm: url into it it just closes
[07:13] <_jeff> and how do your register the player as a protocol?
[07:13] <_jeff> in konqueror
[07:13] <Snake[Word] > Hey jpatrick
[07:14] <jpatrick> hey Snake[Word] 
[07:14] <Snake[Word] > wtf is word..
[07:14] <Snake[Word] > its supposed to be work
[07:14] <jpatrick> _jeff: :/ did it by itself here
[07:16] <Snake__> jpatrick: you got a PPC?
[07:16] <jpatrick> No
[07:16] <jpatrick> x86
[07:16] <Snake__> Oh okay :)
[07:17] <Snake__> I was gonna tell you to ship me it :P
[07:17] <_jeff> hmm
[07:17] <_jeff> did you have to compile anything
[07:17] <_jeff> ?
[07:17] <jpatrick> No
[07:17] <jpatrick> there's a deb package
[07:17] <_jeff> hmmmmm
[07:17] <_jeff> where?
[07:20] <jpatrick> _jeff: wget http://people.debian.org/~pxt/lastfm/lastfm_1.1.4-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[07:21] <_jeff> lol thanks
[07:21] <_jeff> XD
[07:21] <jpatrick> "XD" now there's something I only see spanish people do
[07:26] <Flosoft> hey
[07:26] <Flosoft> is there a asterisk package for kubuntu?
[07:28] <DeadS0ul> holy crap
[07:28] <DeadS0ul> I finally got my soundcards configured properly
[07:29] <DeadS0ul> Flosoft: yeah, might bein the multiverse repositaries though
[07:29] <Flosoft> and asterisk-addons?
[07:29] <noteventime> Flosoft, seems so
[07:30] <_jeff> jpatrick: im trying to install the .deb but it needs libqt4-core and libwqt4-gui, but those packages seem to be broken
[07:30] <noteventime> Flosoft, I'll paste the list
[07:30] <noteventime> !pastebin
[07:30] <ubotu> [pastebin]  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[07:30] <jpatrick> _jeff: :/ sorry, then
[07:30] <_jeff> jpatrick:spanish and canadians then
[07:30] <_jeff> jpatrick: how did you do it?
[07:31] <_jeff> you didnt have that problem?
[07:31] <jpatrick> I'm on Dapper
[07:31] <noteventime> Flosoft: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12610
[07:31] <_jeff> poop
[07:31] <Flosoft> thx noteventime
[07:31] <noteventime> np :D
[07:31] <_jeff> one more reason to upgrade :(
[07:31] <noteventime> Yay, upgrade to the tango-icenset package :D
[07:32] <noteventime> I love tango-iconset :D
[07:32] <kubuntutaotao> 
[07:33] <noteventime> btw, when do you think the edgy repos will be "usefull" that is, installable without removing KDE :D
[07:36] <morrow> hmmm will wpa be available while installing in dapper?
[07:37] <visik7> morrow: seems to be - it's in main
[07:37] <visik7> anyway why while ?
[07:38] <morrow> visik7: but not yet in flight 6 :)
[07:38] <visik7> flight6 isn't final dapper
[07:39] <morrow> yeah, i know.. was just wondering if the next install will be with network :)
[07:44] <visik7> morrow: btw beta of dapper is out
[07:44] <visik7> try it
[07:46] <morrow> perfekt.. just burned flight6 and started an install :)
[07:46] <morrow> .oO( Murphy )
[07:48] <Broxtor> XMMS plays mp3's in Dapper, Amarok doesn't. Any pointers on how to solve that?
[07:48] <jpatrick> Broxtor: that's odd
[07:49] <Broxtor> and is there no longer a w32codecs package?
[07:50] <paran> not really. xmms use its own plugins to decode mp3. amarok uses either xine or gstreamer i think
[07:50] <gfhj> http://www.ilove-movies.com/main.html http://cool-porn.biz/welivetogether/galleries/dyke1010/vp.html
[07:51] <Broxtor> paran: I have gstreamer installed
[07:52] <Snake__> !ops
[07:52] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[07:52] <jpatrick> actually it's !kops here
[07:52] <jdong|laptop> ubotu: wow... that's pinging a lot of people :)
[07:52] <ubotu> jdong|laptop: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:52] <nalioth> Snake__: ?
[07:53] <Snake__> nalioth: perhaps ban the porn guy?
[07:53] <Snake__> gfhj
[07:53] <jdong|laptop> is it just me, or is freenode really getting spammed recently?
[07:53] <Snake__> jdong|laptop: theyre gettin slammed
[07:53] <jpatrick> jdong|laptop: some bot attacks
[07:53] <jdong|laptop> wonderful...
[07:53] <ralf>  Sorry, back now. I have probs with kino / dvgrab. No DV or errors with avc. I have no /dev/ieee entries, is that ok?
[07:54] <chumphries> greetings, anyone know why  kdesktop_lock would fail to unlock, even though I am typing my password correctly? and caps lock isn't on etc, it just isn't unlocking
[07:54] <chumphries> dapper
[07:55] <Snake__> gj nalioth :)
[07:55] <nalioth> attention all, the porn spambots are being chased down at this time
[07:55] <Tm_T> nalioth: ?
[07:55] <Tm_T> aaah
[07:56] <jpatrick> Tm_T: :P you didn't follow the links did ya?
[07:56] <Tm_T> ofcourse not
[07:57] <Tm_T> jpatrick: somehow I never follow strange links if I don't have told to check by someone I can trust
[07:57] <jpatrick> Tm_T: so what's the "aah" for? :) ;)
[07:57] <paran> Broxtor: sorry, i don't run amarok myself so I can't really help
[07:57] <Snake__> there was 1 hot chick
[07:57] <Snake__> lol
[07:57] <Tm_T> jpatrick: well, I noticed link, it's spam 99% sure
[07:58] <Tm_T> jpatrick: I do read urls ;)
[08:03] <Broxtor> what's the deal with the good, the bad and the ugly gstreamer packages?
[08:04] <nalioth> Broxtor: i suspect you'll get a better answer in #ubuntu+1
[08:05] <morrow> hmm ok.. the beta has wpa on the cd but still not while installing
[08:05] <Broxtor> nalioth: thnx, will give it a try.
[08:05] <Jhoa> http://g.pantywash.com/galleries/rackandblack/051024carmen/vp.html http://hornystarlet.com/yt/135/vdpst.htm
[08:07] <suspect> hello
[08:07] <suspect> i just wanted to know how to open a .tar.gz file
[08:07] <suspect> with the terminal
[08:08] <_spiritz> suspect: tar xzvf file.tar.gz
[08:08] <chumphries> http://www.kde-forum.org/post/55541/lastpost.html is a fix to my problem, where i couldn't log back in
[08:08] <_spiritz> suspect: or installe 'mc' to browse it and extract it
[08:08] <Tm_T> bah, another spammer
[08:09] <suspect> ok it showed me allt he files inside it
[08:09] <suspect> im trying to install flash player 7
[08:09] <_spiritz> suspect: no, it extracted all the files :)
[08:09] <suspect> extracted to where?
[08:09] <suspect> tmp?
[08:09] <suspect> = 0
[08:09] <_spiritz> to current dir/your_package_name
[08:09] <suspect> = )
[08:09] <suspect> where is that?
[08:10] <_spiritz> current dir means `where you are right now`
[08:10] <_spiritz> 'pwd' will should you where you are :)
[08:10] <suspect> im on my desktop
[08:11] <_spiritz> so it has been extracted on your desktop
[08:11] <suspect> ok
[08:12] <suspect> ./flashplayer-installer
[08:13] <suspect> tells me to type that
[08:13] <suspect> but i get an error
[08:13] <suspect> bash: ./flashplayer-installer: No such file or directory
[08:13] <_spiritz> you should not install it this way
[08:13] <suspect> how shoud i then?
[08:13] <_spiritz> you should get a ubuntu newbie guide and follow it
[08:13] <suspect> lol
[08:13] <suspect> caling me a newbie?
[08:13] <suspect> lol
[08:14] <Snake__> suspect: newbie isnt a bad thing, we were all nubs once, dont take it offensivly ;)
[08:14] <suspect> i know
[08:14] <suspect> im a newbie
[08:14] <_spiritz> I'm sorry if that mean being rude, but being unable to extract a package sounds like newbie to me *at least to linux*
[08:14] <Snake__> Agreed :P
[08:14] <Snake__> :D
[08:14] <suspect> and im proud!!
[08:14] <suspect> = D
[08:14] <Snake__> suspect: have you seen this:
[08:14] <Snake__> !flash
[08:14] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:14] <suspect> = )
[08:14] <suspect> seen whar?
[08:15] <Snake__> suspect: that page ^^
[08:15] <suspect> i seen it before i just forgot
[08:15] <suspect> brb
[08:20] <Dasnipa`> woot woot for #ubuntu+2
[08:20] <me2win> Dasnipa`: lol, i was camping in dapper+1
[08:21] <Snake__> wtf is a eft??
[08:22] <jpatrick> young newt
[08:22] <me2win> young newt
[08:22] <Dasnipa`> an eft is a youthful newt
[08:22] <Snake__> ...
[08:22] <Snake__> Are you kidding me??
[08:22] <me2win> BAHAHAHAH!
[08:22] <Dasnipa`> when it first leaved the stream and explores its surrounding area
[08:22] <me2win> ok guys
[08:22] <jpatrick> me2win, Dasnipa`: beat you to it :) ;)
[08:22] <me2win> lets stop kidding sNake
[08:22] <Dasnipa`> leaves*
[08:22] <Snake__> why are they going from a well dressed dragon...to a newt
[08:22] <me2win> jpatrick: lol
[08:23] <jpatrick> because we can live underwater
[08:24] <me2win> jpatrick: is that to say you are a newt?
[08:24] <jpatrick> Snake__: reborn TM
[08:24] <jpatrick> me2win: no
[08:24] <Snake__> ...
[08:25] <suspect> ok im back
[08:25] <Snake__> o no
[08:25] <suspect> i have to get the file they telling me to put the command for?
[08:27] <suspect> Reading package lists... Done
[08:27] <suspect> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:27] <suspect> E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[08:27] <suspect> thats what happened
[08:27] <suspect> and sorry for spamming.
[08:27] <_spiritz> have u enabled additonnal repositories?
[08:28] <robotgeek> suspect: dapper? please read the Help -> Kubuntu Desktop GUide
[08:28] <Chryseus> libflash-mozplugin flashplugin-nonfree
[08:30] <suspect> i have breezy
[08:31] <robotgeek> suspect, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:32] <_nemesis> hello every1 :-)
[08:32] <suspect> i saw that
[08:32] <suspect> i tried the commands
[08:32] <suspect> and didnt work
[08:33] <_nemesis> could n e 1 tell me - updating to xorg 7 + getting nice 3d effects on desktop etc - howto? nvidia 6600gt?
[08:34] <_nemesis> and how to tell what version of x managers are current?
[08:34] <lakibobs> guys... anybody here chatting in DALNET server?
[08:34] <suspect> is there anyway i can download songs in kubuntu?
[08:34] <jpatrick> suspect: illegally?
[08:34] <suspect> yeah
[08:35] <suspect> yeah
[08:35] <suspect> so is there anyways?
[08:36] <justanotheruser> suspect: yes there are p2p clients, but i think you're on your own in that
[08:36] <suspect> oh ok
[08:36] <jpatrick> buy the cds
[08:38] <me2win> iits not illegal in all countries
[08:39] <justanotheruser> true, but buying is the right thing todo right?
[08:39] <_spiritz> who cares?
[08:39] <_nemesis> and how to tell what version of x managers are current?
[08:39] <_spiritz> is there someone here that can dare saying he has no *illegal* mp3/ogg files around?
[08:40] <suspect> hey how do i install .deb files?
[08:40] <suspect> whats the command
[08:40] <suspect> i forgot
[08:40] <justanotheruser> suspect: sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[08:40] <mornfall> Riddell: *poke*
[08:40] <mornfall> err
[08:41] <suspect> it didnt work
[08:41] <justanotheruser> _spiritz: there is a difference in what i do and what i think i shouldn't advertise. But that's only me....
[08:41] <suspect> just many many errors
[08:42] <suspect> in the desktop the file is called lmms_0.1.4-1_i386.deb
[08:42] <_spiritz> justanotheruser: true but I don't think that channel is not that much of a top secret one
[08:42] <suspect> so can someone show me the exact command?????
[08:43] <Excaliber> so
[08:43] <suspect> so uhmm whats the command?
[08:44] <justanotheruser> suspect: cd ~/Desktop [enter]   sudo dpkg -i lmms_0.1.4-1_i386.deb
[08:45] <suspect> same errors
[08:45] <suspect> didn't work
[08:45] <jpatrick> sudo apt-get install -f
[08:46] <jpatrick> I'm off
[08:46] <suspect> k
[08:46] <suspect> l8tr
[08:48] <psychiccyberfrea> I need help installing on my friend's laptop
[08:49] <psychiccyberfrea> hello?
[08:49] <HymnToLife> !tell psychiccyberfrea about hello
[08:49] <psychiccyberfrea> ???
[08:50] <HymnToLife> I was basically just fooling around
[08:50] <HymnToLife> you have any question ?
[08:50] <psychiccyberfrea> ok I need help installing kubuntu on my friend's laptop
[08:50] <Nomad411> !h264
[08:50] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Nomad411
[08:50] <_nemesis> how do i tell what kde version i am running?
[08:50] <HymnToLife> what's the problem ?
[08:50] <Nomad411> !h.264
[08:50] <ubotu> Nomad411: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:51] <HymnToLife> _nemesis> Help > About KDE on basically whichever KDE app if I remmeber well
[08:51] <_nemesis> thanx :-)
[08:51] <psychiccyberfrea> I install it w/o it being hooked up to a netsork because it just dosn't seem to be able to work with the ethernet card, so now I get error messages about there being no installable kernel in apt and stuff
[08:52] <HymnToLife> funny
[08:52] <naibed> Hello
[08:52] <psychiccyberfrea> I mean a network
[08:52] <HymnToLife> do you choose "do not configure the network at this time" during install ?
[08:52] <psychiccyberfrea> yeah
[08:53] <HymnToLife> it just shouldn't tell you that
[08:54] <HymnToLife> all the packages needed to install are on the CD
[08:54] <psychiccyberfrea> yeah lemmie try installing it quick
[08:54] <psychiccyberfrea> Ok the CD boots and I press enter
[08:54] <Yokalosh> guys, i am having some problems since i installed kubuntu, i started off with just a server type version of dapper and everything went ok, i then had gdm and gnome all running fine so i wanted to test kubuntu, so i uninstalled all of that, now on the latest kernel it hangs at 'uncompressing linux kernel', so i tested the one before that and it hangs at a kubuntu screen and then finally i tested it with the oldest kernel i have 
[08:54] <psychiccyberfrea> now it is booting
[08:55] <psychiccyberfrea> set the defaults and regions...
[08:56] <psychiccyberfrea> it says network autoconfig failed
[08:56] <HymnToLife> hmm sorry, gotta go
[08:56] <HymnToLife> yeah
[08:56] <HymnToLife> choose "do not configure the network"
[08:56] <psychiccyberfrea> so I hit do not config now
[08:56] <psychiccyberfrea> hostname is ryanslappy
[08:56] <HymnToLife> and afterwards, do you do anything unusual during install
[08:56] <psychiccyberfrea> idk...
[08:56] <HymnToLife> or maybe your CD is bad
[08:57] <HymnToLife> have you tried with another one ?
[08:57] <psychiccyberfrea> no I got them from shipit
[08:57] <HymnToLife> *well
[08:57] <HymnToLife> shipit CDs _can_ be bad too
[08:57] <psychiccyberfrea> ok lemmie try that
[08:57] <HymnToLife> gota go now, see ya
[09:00] <psychiccyberfrea> when's dapper drake supposed to be relesed again?
[09:01] <naibed> when it's ready
[09:01] <psychiccyberfrea> oh
[09:01] <psychiccyberfrea> just makin sure
[09:01] <naibed> I'm using it already for about 2 months and works pretty well
[09:02] <henryk_> anyone can tell me how can i change breeze to dapper, without reinstalation?
[09:03] <psychiccyberfrea> I wish I could get my m4p music to work on my linux box. Anyone know any good programs for that type thing
[09:03] <Riddell> mornfall: hi
[09:03] <naibed> henryk_, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change any breezy to dapper, then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:03] <naibed> henryk_, oh, and hello ..
[09:03] <psychiccyberfrea> henryk_ try adding the dapper repositories, then  mark all upgrades
[09:04] <psychiccyberfrea> and remove the breezy repositories
[09:04] <henryk_> naibed, thank you and hi
[09:04] <psychiccyberfrea> yeah thout sounds right
[09:05] <psychiccyberfrea> does that sound right?
[09:09] <psychiccyberfrea> ok I need help
[09:09] <psychiccyberfrea> when I try to install the base system, it says that it was unable to install the selected kernal
[09:12] <henryk_> ok, looks like it work. man i hope this wasn't stupid enough to get on bash.org
[09:13] <psychiccyberfrea> I need help again
[09:14] <psychiccyberfrea> It asks me what kernel to install
[09:22] <eyeburn> Can I ask a brife question?
[09:23] <jpatrick> yes
[09:23] <SkrotFFS> Ofcourse
[09:25] <eyeburn> I'm now runking my kubuntu on ha 386 kernel, but I have a P(IV) 2.8GHz Hypertread prossesor. Sould I use the one with or without SMP at the end of the to 686 kernerls?
[09:26] <admrl> quanta plus, nvu, scream are there any more html/css or whatever else web software out atm
[09:26] <eyeburn> runing*
[09:26] <admrl> that are good
[09:30] <eyeburn> does anyone know?
[09:31] <jpatrick> your choice
[09:33] <eyeburn> okey, I well not crash my linux if I chouse wrong?
[09:34] <paran> eyeburn: both will work. the smp kernel will use hyperthreading, the other one will not
[09:36] <paran> eyeburn: or you can install both. they will all show up in the boot loader next reboot
[09:37] <NRG88> hiasll, what do i have to write in the fstab, if i want to automount for example ext2 partition hdb1 to /media/D ?
[09:38] <NRG88> hm
[09:38] <NRG88> darn xchat
[09:38] <NRG88> sorry hiasll, only wanted to write hi
[09:38] <kamme> hi, I have a problem with amarok, whenever I try to play an .mp3 it just immediatly tells me the playlist is done... what can I do about it?
[09:38] <klugez> !mp3
[09:38] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[09:38] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:38] <eyeburn> paran: thank you =)
[09:40] <kamme> klugez: package not available...
[09:40] <klugez> which package?
[09:40] <kamme> libxine-extracodecs
[09:40] <kamme> In 6.06, amarok needs libxine-extracodecs for mp3 support.
[09:41] <klugez> Section: multiverse/libs
[09:41] <klugez> have you multiverse enabled?
[09:41] <klugez> that's where i've installed libxine-extracodecs from
[09:41] <kamme> yes
[09:41] <kamme> unless I fooled around
[09:42] <paran> NRG88: "/dev/hdb1 /media/D ext2 defaults 0 2" (but you should consider using ext3 instead of good old ext2)
[09:42] <klugez> Nouda:1 http://se.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse libxine-extracodecs 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 [1029kB] 
[09:42] <kamme> hmm, I only have universe....
[09:42] <NRG88> paran, it is for an old machine
[09:42] <klugez> it seems to be still there
[09:43] <paran> NRG88: ext3 works fine on older machines as well
[09:43] <NRG88> i know performance...
[09:43] <NRG88> i know, it's not much...
[09:43] <NRG88> but it is something
[09:44] <kamme> klugez: thanks, I enabled multiverse again and now it's downloading :)
[09:44] <klugez> kamme: no problem
[09:45] <_ubuntu> kbuntu rocks!
[09:45] <kamme> aha, mp3 sound :)
[09:45] <kamme> thanks again!
[09:46] <_ubuntu> think suse is about to get kicked from my box :)
[09:46] <Dasnipa`> UROZZZZ
[09:46] <uros> hi all - i have somehow lost the "location" toolbar in konqueror - it is on, but i see no icons or fields - actually nothing - in it...
[09:48] <uros> last thing i was doing with it was adjusting some settings to which i got by rightclicking on the toolbar - since it is no longer there, i cannot reverse it. any clues n1?
[09:49] <lakiboobs> guys... what's the equivalent command for tracert in kubuntu
[09:49] <lakiboobs> ?
[09:49] <_spiritz> traceroute
[09:51] <lakiboobs> it says : traceroute command not found
[09:51] <lakiboobs> y?
[09:51] <Dasnipa`> apt-get install traceroute
[09:51] <lakiboobs> ok
[09:51] <Dasnipa`> + sudo
[09:51] <lakiboobs> thanks
[09:53] <eyeburn> Is there some diferece between this two? Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV *  /   Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.  I did chouse the one with * was that wrong?
[09:54] <pax> how many packages are installed by kubuntu, default?
[09:54] <OdyX> pax: why that question ?
[09:55] <uros> last try - figured out what i did - right click on toolbar and changed "orientation" to "flat". the toolbar disappeared. i have no idea now how to get it back, since i can not get back into this "toolbar menu" . help please ;)
[09:55] <pax> OdyX: abviously because I want to know.
[09:55] <OdyX> pax: OK...
[09:55] <paulvolk> Hello
[09:55] <Dasnipa`> boo konq
[09:56] <paran> eyeburn: just install the package that is named "linux-image-686" or "linux-image-686-smp".
[09:56] <paulvolk> does anyone here know of a good voice regognition program for Kubuntu that I could download?
[09:56] <OdyX> pax: actually, on mine, 1446 installed, 18671 available.
[09:56] <eyeburn> paran: thanks
[09:56] <pax> OdyX: that's from a fresh install, no additions?
[09:56] <OdyX> pax: largly added... but not so much... :D
[09:57] <OdyX> pax: really, I don't know...
[09:57] <OdyX> it's lower than that.
[09:57] <leagris> hello
[09:58] <pax> OdyX: great, thanks. Over the years it seems like all distros are growing hungry for space :-)
[09:58] <OdyX> pax: number of packages is non-significant
[09:58] <paulvolk> does anyone here know of a good voice regognition program for Kubuntu that I could download?
[09:59] <pax> to some point, correct. however, it is a good indicator of size suggested/required.
[09:59] <paulvolk> recognition*
[09:59] <pax> apt-cache search is no good?
[09:59] <OdyX> pax:  heard 500 MiB for ubuntu-server was reasonnable
[10:00] <pax> well yeah, no doubt.
[10:00] <m_tadeu> good night everyone
[10:00] <m_tadeu> i'm having a lot of trouble connecting through a pcmcia card
[10:00] <leagris> can someone help sort out with unmet broken kde depencies with latest Kubuntu Dapper 6.06 update ?
[10:01] <m_tadeu> kppp reports the modem is busy
[10:01] <m_tadeu> can anyone help?
[10:02] <NoUse> leagris have you tried running 'apt-get -f install' ?
[10:03] <leagris> yes
[10:04] <NoUse> what dep is broken?
[10:04] <leagris> It was installed from DVD then upgraded. It worked ok this morning. Then tonight upgrade brought brocken dependencies on all kde related packages
[10:05] <NoUse> you installed from the Dapper DVD or the Breezy DVD?
[10:05] <vge> i hate when everything i need works, somebody can help me to break something? :(
[10:05] <leagris> I tryed changing repository archive.ubuntu fr.archive and local ISP mirror no luck. Installed from Dapper DVD
[10:06] <NoUse> leagris run this: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6666 -O /etc/apt/sources.list'
[10:06] <NoUse> oops, forget the single quote at the end
[10:07] <leagris> Ill try this sources.list and tell you NoUse thanks
[10:07] <NoUse> leagris after than runs try an apt-get update upgrade
[10:10] <m_tadeu> anyone?...i'm unable to run wvdial on a pcmcia modem...can anyone help, plz?
[10:13] <NoUse> m_tadeu you might try asking in #ubuntu, as long as it isnt a KDE specific question
[10:13] <leagris> NoUse, didn't help see here: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/672040
[10:14] <NoUse> leagris does apt-get update run without a problem?
[10:14] <m_tadeu> NoUse, thanx...already am, but its quite complicated since there are a lot of questions at the same time :S
[10:15] <leagris> no errors from apt-get update NoUse
[10:15] <nemesis> need help with shoutcast feed- my sound is working - amorok is playing but no sound?
[10:15] <paulvolk> Is it worth upgrading now to Kubuntu 6.06?
[10:15] <nemesis> what is wrong?
[10:15] <jpatrick> paulvolk: yes
[10:15] <NoUse> leagris what is the ouput of apt-get -f install?
[10:16] <paulvolk> Ok I am on Kubuntu 5. what ever the latest is how would I upgrade?
[10:16] <leagris> NoUse, very same output as upgrade
[10:17] <nemesis> n e ideas? why i cant hear shoutcast - but can hear other sounds?
[10:17] <paulvolk> Can someone tell me how to upgrade?
[10:18] <NoUse> !tell paulvolk about upgrade
[10:18] <lakiboobs> guys... how can i access my windows file in another partition? i'm on a dual boot system.
[10:18] <NoUse> leagris try: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:19] <_jeff> hey gangsters
[10:19] <OdyX> paulvolk: replace every "breezy" with "dapper" in /etc/apt/sources.list and update and dist-upgarde
[10:19] <OdyX> s/upgarde/upgrade
[10:19] <NoUse> !tell lakiboobs about ntfs
[10:19] <_jeff> shouldnt that be in obotu or something?
[10:19] <leagris> NoUse, same output with dpkg --configure -a
[10:19] <paulvolk> ok
[10:19] <OdyX> _jeff: this should
[10:19] <OdyX> !ntfs
[10:19] <_jeff> lol
[10:19] <NoUse> leagris I'm out of ideas
[10:19] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:19] <_jeff> how do you add something to obotu?
[10:20] <OdyX> !update
[10:20] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, OdyX
[10:20] <OdyX> !dapper
[10:20] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[10:20] <_jeff> no
[10:20] <_jeff> how to upgrade to dapper
[10:20] <OdyX> !update to dapper
[10:20] <ubotu> OdyX: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:20] <_jeff> lol
[10:20] <_jeff> how do you add it?
[10:21] <NoUse> OdyX its under !upgrade
[10:21] <OdyX> _jeff: I don't know....
[10:21] <OdyX> !upgrade
[10:21] <ubotu> from memory, upgrade is Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html
[10:21] <nemesis> n e ideas? why i cant hear shoutcast - but can hear other sounds?
[10:21] <OdyX> OK. Thanks NoUse
[10:22] <NoUse> leagris it might be a temporary thing, dapper does break from time to time
[10:22] <OdyX> NoUse: it's beta now... and has not broken for a looong time now.
[10:23] <NoUse> OdyX tell that the leagris :-)
[10:23] <leagris> NoUse, it only affect Kde related packages in dapper. Anyone else enconter this trouble tonight ?
[10:23] <OdyX> leagris: what happened to you ?
[10:23] <NoUse> OdyX http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/672040
[10:24] <leagris> OdyX, Todays updates for all Kde packages are broken dependencies in Dapper
[10:24] <paulvolk> Ok the dist upgrader will do Kubuntu to not just Ubuntu?
[10:24] <OdyX> leagris: well... it works here.... and it's no more than just waiting...
[10:24] <leagris> OdyX, Did you update upgrade today ?
[10:25] <OdyX> leagris: add kubuntu.no-ip.org :D it's more bleeding-edge (Kubuntu dev's repo)
[10:25] <OdyX> leagris: I just did.
[10:25] <nemesis> ok - n e ideas- amarok does not output sound from shoutcast - but xmms does????????
[10:25] <OdyX> leagris: but I have kubuntu.no-ip.org
[10:25] <NoUse> paulvolk ubuntu is the same as kubuntu, just different GUI installed by default
[10:25] <paulvolk> oh lol I should have known that
[10:25] <OdyX> leagris: dunno if it changes... but it's not broken here.
[10:25] <leagris> OdyX, is tha a Kubuntu team maintained repos or some kind hacker repos ?
[10:26] <OdyX> leagris: it's Tonio_ 's repos.
[10:26] <leagris> OdyX, Ill try this
[10:27] <OdyX> leagris: it's only deb's waiting for main...
[10:28] <paulvolk> Is Upgrading to Drapper a good Idea?
[10:29] <OdyX> paulvolk: as you feel it.
[10:29] <OdyX> paulvolk: it's very stable now...
[10:29] <OdyX> no worry
[10:30] <paulvolk> ok
[10:30] <_jeff> awesome
[10:30] <_jeff> im gonna download the live cd tonight
[10:30] <paulvolk> I want to but I also don't want my system to crash
[10:30] <OdyX> paulvolk: the idea when moving release date was that the community should be able to switch on "previous release date"
[10:30] <_jeff> no nobody wants that
[10:30] <OdyX> paulvolk: I had no "system crash" for a looong time"
[10:30] <_jeff> nice
[10:30] <_jeff> but are you a guru?
[10:31] <chowsapal> anyone have any tips on why my sound works on some boots and not others?
[10:31] <leagris> Ill try to remove everything kde related and restart from kubuntu-desktop dependency tree
[10:32] <leagris> see you soon (hopefully). Still have gnome in case of troubles ;D
[10:32] <morrow> hmmm baghira still crashes my firefox.. weird
[10:32] <OdyX> _jeff: what do you mean ?
[10:32] <OdyX> _jeff: I'm more than normal user.
[10:35] <_jeff> odyx: ok
[10:36] <OdyX> _jeff: what did you mean by "are you a guru" ?
[10:36] <_jeff> odyx: i figured that an experienced user would have fewer problems than a fairly average user
[10:36] <slow-motion> re
[10:36] <_jeff> a guru is sombody who has mastered something
[10:36] <_jeff> as far as i know
[10:36] <OdyX> _jeff: well... I feel well with KDE and Ubuntu, but no more... no dev no nothing...
[10:37] <C-O-L-T> Ubuntu - Linux for human beings!!!
[10:37] <_jeff> oh
[10:37] <_jeff> lol yeha
[10:37] <_jeff> i wanna get into dev
[10:37] <_jeff> make linux programs and what not
[10:37] <tsdgeos> _jeff: then start
[10:37] <_jeff> help improve others
[10:37] <tsdgeos> is easy (if you know some programming of course=
[10:38] <_jeff> tsdgeos: thanks for the advice
[10:38] <tsdgeos> we at kde are very open
[10:38] <_jeff> i know a bit of c++ in windows
[10:38] <C-O-L-T> Ubuntu - Linux for human beings!!!
[10:38] <_jeff> but have no idea how to start in ubuntu
[10:38] <tsdgeos> well
[10:38] <tsdgeos> install gcc/g++
[10:39] <tsdgeos> + some editor you like (or IDE even)
[10:39] <tsdgeos> and then find someone you want to help on :D
[10:39] <_jeff> can i do it in kate?
[10:39] <OdyX> _jeff: sure... any editor
[10:39] <_jeff> or do i need some visual studio-esque app?
[10:39] <_jeff> ok
[10:39] <OdyX> _jeff: but there is kdevelop3
[10:39] <tsdgeos> _jeff: i usually use kate
[10:40] <_jeff> ok
[10:40] <tsdgeos> but you can use kdevelop
[10:40] <_jeff> what kind of app would i start with?
[10:40] <_jeff> trying to make
[10:40] <tsdgeos> or emacs or vim or eclipse (what boss makes me use on work) or wathever
[10:40] <_jeff> in windows i would make apps that ran in dos from the command line
[10:40] <_jeff> is it easy to make terminal apps?
[10:41] <jpatrick> yes
[10:41] <_jeff> awesome
[10:41] <chowsapal> you could probably run those same programs letter for letter
[10:41] <tsdgeos> _jeff: but gui apps are nicer :-)
[10:41] <_jeff> is there a beginners guide or tutorial site anywhere?
[10:41] <_jeff> yeah
[10:41] <_jeff> but theres something about the terminal that i really like
[10:42] <mak> hi everyone. can someone help me with a little resolution problem please?
[10:42] <tsdgeos> mak: explain more
[10:42] <_jeff> nalioth:i know the basic commands and how to use the terminal already
[10:43] <jpatrick> _jeff: what language?
[10:43] <mak> ok here it is: i want to change my resolution to a higher one but i havnt checked more than the standard boxes during install.. how can i change the res?
[10:43] <tsdgeos> _jeff: then the same C++ you use on widnows should work almost on linux
[10:43] <jpatrick> mak: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:44] <_jeff> hmm
[10:44] <_jeff> jpatrick: c++
[10:44] <mak> ok ill try.. thx
[10:44] <_jeff> i can call all the same libraries and everything?
[10:44] <_jeff> cmath and what have you?
[10:44] <jpatrick> standard ones
[10:44] <_jeff> ok
[10:45] <_jeff> so lets say i type up my whole c++ app in kate
[10:45] <_jeff> how do i check if it works?
[10:45] <mak> ok works.. thank you jpatrick!
[10:45] <_jeff> how do i run it?
[10:45] <jpatrick> compile it
[10:46] <_jeff> theres an option in kate that allows you to compile what you've typed?
[10:46] <jpatrick> No
[10:46] <tsdgeos> _jeff: nope, then you have 3 options
[10:46] <jpatrick> but there is in kdevelop3
[10:46] <_jeff> ok
[10:46] <tsdgeos> you learn how to use automake/autoconf for generating makefiles automatically
[10:46] <tsdgeos> you create your makefile by hand
[10:46] <tsdgeos> or use kdevelop or something that creates the makefiles itself
[10:47] <_jeff> ok
[10:47] <_jeff> what do you need makefiles for?
[10:47] <tsdgeos> to call make and compile the program :D
[10:47] <Chousuke> for easier building of software project.
[10:47] <Chousuke> +s
[10:47] <tsdgeos> obviously you can call g++ at hand
[10:47] <tsdgeos> but that's crazy
[10:47] <Chousuke> make is your friend <3
[10:48] <_jeff> lol ok
[10:48] <paulvolk> How do you start Konquorer as root?
[10:48] <_jeff> sounds like i should start with kdevelop
[10:48] <Chousuke> would you rather: g++ foo.cc bar.cc zonk.cc -o quzzle, or simply "make"
[10:48] <_jeff> sudo konqueror
[10:48] <paulvolk> How do you start Konquorer as root?
[10:48] <paulvolk> ok
[10:48] <paulvolk> thanks
[10:48] <_jeff> np
[10:48] <jpatrick> _jeff: never sudo
[10:48] <Chousuke> paulvolk: why do you want to do that?
[10:48] <tsdgeos> paulvolk: and why you want to do that?
[10:48] <jpatrick> "kdesu"
[10:48] <tsdgeos> Chousuke: lol
[10:49] <_jeff> lol
[10:49] <Chousuke> paulvolk: it's dangerous. :)
[10:49] <paulvolk> to open a file to edit it as root
[10:49] <Chousuke> paulvolk: ah
[10:49] <_jeff> why is it dangerous?
[10:49] <Chousuke> use kdesu kate file for that
[10:49] <jpatrick> then use kate
[10:49] <tsdgeos> paulvolk: and you need konqueror to edit a file ;)
[10:49] <_jeff> are you guys typing the person's name every single time or is there a shortcut?
[10:49] <paulvolk> I need kate but have no idea how to start it in root
[10:49] <Chousuke> _jeff: because konqueror is a web browser and a large application.
[10:49] <_jeff> mhm
[10:49] <Chousuke> paulvolk: "kdesu kate"
[10:50] <Chousuke> should work
[10:50] <tsdgeos> _jeff: initials + tab should do the work
[10:50] <tsdgeos> but really depends on your irc client
[10:50] <paulvolk> ok thanks
[10:50] <_jeff> ohh im using konversation
[10:50] <tsdgeos> then it should work
[10:50] <Chousuke> irssi's tabcomplete is particularly nice. :)
[10:50] <_jeff> tsdgeos: oh wicked it works
[10:50] <Chousuke> it ignores all those annoying-to-type decoration characters
[10:51] <_jeff> Chousuke: yayuh
[10:51] <Chousuke> like _ in _jeff
[10:51] <suspect> hey
[10:51] <suspect> just wanted to know how do i install gnome?
[10:51] <_jeff> Chousuke: lol
[10:51] <Chousuke> so I get your nickname with just "j<tab>"
[10:51] <suspect> on kubuntu
[10:51] <Chousuke> suspect: sudo aptitude install gnome-desktop-environment or something
[10:51] <_jeff> i thihnk that would be apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:51] <Chousuke> or if you want all that, then yes, ubuntu-desktop
[10:52] <_jeff> lol
[10:52] <_jeff> ubuntu-desktop is a meta package
[10:52] <_jeff> that comes with all the apps that come with the gnome version of ubuntu
[10:52] <suspect> ok it finished
[10:52] <_jeff> including gnome
[10:53] <paulvolk> Ok I have no ide how to update to drapper
[10:54] <Seantater> !dapper
[10:54] <_jeff> lol
[10:54] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[10:54] <paulvolk> I can't get it to update
[10:54] <Seantater> Go to a terminal
[10:54] <_jeff> as far as i know, all you have to do is change every 'breezy' to 'dapper' in your sources.list
[10:54] <tsdgeos> paulvolk: you have to dist-updrade not only updrage
[10:54] <_jeff> ye
[10:54] <NoUse> !upgrade
[10:54] <ubotu> upgrade is, like, totally, Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html
[10:54] <paulvolk> How do I dist-upgrade?
[10:55] <NoUse> paulvolk apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:55] <suspect> ok
[10:55] <suspect> it didnt install gnome
[10:55] <suspect> anyways
[10:55] <suspect> what is Ubuntu 5.04 hoary
[10:55] <suspect> can i get that?
[10:55] <jpatrick> old version
[10:55] <Seantater> suspect: an old version of ubuntu
[10:56] <suspect> oh
[10:56] <suspect> nvm then
[10:56] <Seantater> suspect, I doubt you want it
[10:56] <suspect> so whats the command to install gnome?
[10:56] <NoUse> suspect apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:56] <Seantater> suspect, Have you done apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:56] <justanotheruser> is it possible to request an upgrade of a package in dapper?
[10:57] <Seantater> suspect, If you have already done that, you have to tell kdm to boot to gnome instead
[10:57] <paulvolk> after I type apt-get dist-upgrade what do I do?
[10:57] <suspect> ok ist installingh
[10:57] <justanotheruser> (to the latest stable version of rtorrent)
[10:57] <NoUse> suspect could you be more specific?
[10:57] <suspect> i remember earlier i had dapper problems
[10:57] <Seantater> paulvolk: press enter, watch things happen
[10:57] <suspect> it was hell
[10:57] <suspect> lol
[10:57] <NoUse> justanotheruser I think dapper is frozen for anything other than security and bug fixes
[10:57] <paulvolk> Watch what happen?
[10:57] <paulvolk> nothing happened
[10:58] <jpatrick> NoUse: yep
[10:58] <suspect> gnome is smaler than kde right?
[10:58] <Seantater> paulvolk: paste into pastebin what it said
[10:58] <suspect> smaller*
[10:58] <Seantater> paulvolk: and give us the link here
[10:59] <_jeff> whats rtorrent?
[10:59] <plukin> suspect: but you can make kde small, too.
[10:59] <Seantater> suspect: not really
[10:59] <suspect> torrent is a file that is pirated
[10:59] <_jeff> yeah i know
[10:59] <Seantater> suspect: no
[10:59] <_jeff> but whats rtorrent?
[10:59] <NoUse> suspect wrong
[10:59] <_jeff> a client/
[10:59] <_jeff> ?
[10:59] <suspect> like a copy of a software that you have to pay for.
[10:59] <Seantater> suspect: _jeff:yes
[10:59] <_jeff> lol
[10:59] <justanotheruser> NoUse: so... i would have to email the maintainer to ask for it, and the package can't be in the normal repo. True?
[10:59] <suspect> lol
[11:00] <suspect> azureus is good
[11:00] <OdyX> suspect: ktorrent is fine too.
[11:00] <suspect> but i like bittorrent better
[11:00] <_jeff> yeah i like that one too
[11:00] <suspect> wheres ktorrent?
[11:00] <suspect> i don't see it
[11:00] <jpatrick> in main
[11:00] <_jeff> OdyX: suspect : i like both a lot
[11:00] <Seantater> !info ktorrent
[11:00] <ubotu> ktorrent: (BitTorrent client for KDE), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 325 kB, Installed size: 1248 kB
[11:00] <paulvolk> Here you go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12625
[11:00] <suspect> oh
[11:00] <suspect> is it already installed on kubuntu?
[11:00] <NoUse> justanotheruser not as this point, you could request it for dapper+1
[11:00] <_jeff> azureus is heavy on the resources though
[11:00] <jpatrick> in Dapper
[11:01] <_jeff> NoUse: lol dapper+!
[11:01] <_jeff> 1
[11:01] <suspect> whats that link for?
[11:01] <Seantater> paulvolk: run kate ot kwrite or kedit, whatever, as root
[11:01] <NoUse> _jeff thats what its being referred to as, there is even #ubuntu+1
[11:01] <Seantater> paulvolk: and open /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:02] <paulvolk> ok done
[11:02] <Seantater> paulvolk: then change every ime it says breezy to dapper
[11:02] <suspect> how can i get unbanned from ubuntu server?
[11:02] <_jeff> NoUse: lol i know breezy+1 is reffering to dapper, but doesnt dapper+1 refer to the one after dapper?
[11:03] <justanotheruser> NoUse: i ask this because some trackers have a pollicy that they banned all version of bittornado besides the latest develop and the stable. And rtorrent is going the same road
[11:03] <paulvolk> ok after that what do I do?
[11:03] <Seantater> paulvolk: then pastebin what your sources.list says
[11:04] <NoUse> _jeff yeah, thats what I was referring
[11:04] <_jeff> ok
[11:04] <suspect> how do i get unbanned from ubuntu servers?
[11:04] <_jeff> sexual favours
[11:04] <suspect> lol
[11:04] <_jeff> lol
[11:04] <suspect> you're kidding
[11:04] <_jeff> yeah
[11:04] <NoUse> he's really not
[11:04] <suspect> ok
[11:04] <suspect> yes he is
[11:04] <paulvolk> ok here it is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12626
[11:05] <suspect> so how do i get unbanned?
[11:05] <suspect> apologize?
[11:05] <_jeff> what are you banned from exactly?
[11:05] <suspect> #ubuntu and #ubuntu+1
[11:05] <NoUse> suspect what did you do?
[11:05] <_jeff> yeah thats it
[11:05] <Seantater> paulvolk: now put a # before each line that has the word cdrom in it
[11:05] <suspect> i don't know
[11:06] <suspect> no one was helping so i yelled
[11:06] <_jeff> lol
[11:06] <suspect> and cursed
[11:06] <suspect> lol
[11:06] <_jeff> LOL
[11:06] <_jeff> dude
[11:06] <suspect> rofl
[11:06] <_jeff> yeah try apologising
[11:06] <paulvolk> ok
[11:06] <suspect> but how?
[11:06] <_jeff> can you get on with a different name or computer?
[11:06] <suspect> yeah
[11:06] <suspect> my sis laptop
[11:06] <suspect> she has windows
[11:06] <Seantater> paulvolk: now type "apt-get update" (no quotes) into a terminal
[11:06] <suspect> but it has a virus
[11:06] <_jeff> lol ok go on with that and apologize
[11:06] <suspect> i dont mess with her things
[11:07] <Seantater> paulvolk: pastbin what it says
[11:07] <suspect> no
[11:07] <_jeff> lol ok then dont
[11:07] <paulvolk> ok
[11:07] <suspect> her pc is infected
[11:07] <suspect> and its slow
[11:07] <_jeff> lol
[11:07] <suspect> lots of pop ups saying adult friend finder
[11:07] <suspect> LOL!!
[11:07] <_jeff> you can get on the channel from any computer that has the internet i thinsk
[11:07] <_jeff> lol
[11:07] <suspect> lol
[11:07] <_jeff> yeah... viruses
[11:08] <suspect> why don't you go and tell them im sorry
[11:08] <paulvolk> it is downloading files
[11:08] <_jeff> ok
[11:08] <suspect> tell them that i was sorry
[11:08] <paulvolk> do you want me to wait?
[11:08] <_jeff> will they remember you?
[11:08] <Seantater> paulvolk: yes, wait
[11:08] <suspect> yes
[11:08] <suspect> i was suspect
[11:08] <_jeff> ok
[11:08] <suspect> and excaliber
[11:09] <paulvolk> you want me to paste everything it says?
[11:09] <suspect> what?
[11:09] <suspect> copy and paste my texts?
[11:09] <Seantater> paulvolk: No, just give me an idea of what it says
[11:09] <suspect> oh
[11:10] <paulvolk> 30 some packedges where upgraded
[11:10] <suspect> [17:10]  [474]  #ubuntu+1 You're banned from that channel
[11:10] <suspect> see that
[11:10] <suspect> im banned
[11:10] <suspect> = (
[11:10] <paulvolk> do I restart now?
[11:10] <_jeff> lol sorry suspect
[11:10] <Seantater> paulvolk: no
[11:10] <_jeff> nobody is adressing our case
[11:10] <suspect> you tried?
[11:10] <Seantater> paulvolk: that was update
[11:10] <_jeff> yeah
[11:10] <suspect> damn
[11:10] <_jeff> those ubuntu punks are jerks
[11:10] <_jeff> forget them
[11:10] <suspect> thanks anyways
[11:10] <Seantater> paulvolk: now for upGRADE
[11:11] <paulvolk> ok
[11:11] <paulvolk> what do I do?
[11:11] <_jeff> i baely ever get a response from them anyways
[11:11] <Seantater> paulvolk: do "apt-get dist-upgrade" (no quotes)
[11:11] <_jeff> *barely
[11:11] <suspect> aslol
[11:11] <_jeff> lol
[11:11] <suspect> [17:10]  [474]  #ubuntu+1 You're banned from that channel
[11:11] <suspect> see that?
[11:11] <suspect> lol
[11:12] <Seantater> paulvolk: It should be asking a few questions now
[11:12] <paulvolk> 854 upgraded, 115 newly installed, 186 to remove and 3 not upgraded
[11:12] <paulvolk> is what it says now it is asking if I want to continue
[11:12] <paulvolk> yes?
[11:12] <Seantater> paulvolk: yes
[11:12] <suspect> _jeff:do you know how to install lmms?
[11:13] <suspect> i have it as a .deb file on my desktop
[11:13] <suspect> saved
[11:13] <Seantater> paulvolk: now make a cup of your favorite beverage and watch it work
[11:13] <_jeff> suspect: you mean how do you install a .deb?
[11:13] <suspect> yes
[11:14] <Seantater> paulvolk: how fact is your internet connection
[11:14] <_jeff> sudo dpkg -i <full path to the .deb file>
[11:14] <Seantater> paulvolk: how faSt is your internet connection
[11:14] <paulvolk> it is about 3mb/s
[11:14] <Seantater> paulvolk: sorry
[11:14] <Seantater> paulvolk: drool
[11:14] <_jeff> or you could cd to your desktop and just type the name of the file
[11:14] <Seantater> paulvolk: mbit or MB?
[11:14] <_jeff> instead of the full path
[11:15] <paulvolk> MB
[11:15] <_jeff> suspect: whats lmms?
[11:15] <suspect> a music making thing
[11:15] <Seantater> paulvolk: how fast is your CPU
[11:15] <_jeff> aw i love music making things
[11:15] <suspect> and i keep getting errors when i type in sudo dpkg -i and the file name
[11:15] <paulvolk> Hey Seantater are you typing my name every line?
[11:15] <suspect> it doesnt work
[11:15] <_jeff> anybody have experience with kguitar?
[11:15] <Seantater> paulvolk: yes
[11:15] <_jeff> whats it say?
[11:15] <suspect> kguitar?
[11:15] <suspect> is that a real guitar?
[11:15] <_jeff> no
[11:15] <paulvolk> 3 gightz
[11:16] <paulvolk> I think
[11:16] <suspect> i need a virtual guitar
[11:16] <_jeff> it is a tab application
[11:16] <suspect> is it just liek a guitar?
[11:16] <_jeff> helps you write music for guitar
[11:16] <suspect> like*
[11:16] <Seantater> paul: mine is only 2.2 GHZ with 600 KB/s
[11:16] <suspect> is it?
[11:16] <suspect> like a guitar?
[11:16] <Seantater> paul: Your updtade should take about 30-45minutes
[11:16] <_jeff> lol im not sure, havent messed with it much
[11:16] <paulvolk> oh ok I think mine around 2
[11:16] <suspect> lol
[11:16] <suspect> but what does it look like?
[11:17] <Seantater> paulvolk: minutes?
[11:17] <paulvolk> sorry I just looked it up
[11:17] <_jeff> i dont think it will give you a guitar track if thats what ur after
[11:17] <Seantater> paulvolk: I do not think the ubuntu servers allow to download that fast
[11:17] <_jeff> it looks like sheet music i guess
[11:17] <suspect> does it look like a guitar?
[11:17] <paulvolk> oh well
[11:17] <_jeff> lol its an application man
[11:17] <paulvolk> I will just wait
[11:17] <suspect> lol
[11:17] <paulvolk> so
[11:17] <suspect> oh
[11:17] <Seantater> paulvolk: How many %
[11:17] <_jeff> lol
[11:17] <paulvolk> 8
[11:18] <paulvolk> lol
[11:18] <Seantater> paulvolk: D/Ling or installing now?
[11:18] <_jeff> did you think i meant a real guitar?
[11:18] <suspect> yes
[11:18] <suspect> lol
[11:18] <_jeff> lol
[11:18] <paulvolk> downloading
[11:18] <suspect> hey you on gnome?
[11:18] <suspect> or kde?
[11:18] <paulvolk> KDE ALL THE WAY!!!
[11:18] <_jeff> kde
[11:18] <_jeff> yayuh
[11:18] <suspect> lol
[11:18] <Seantater> KDE!!!
[11:18] <suspect> yeah
[11:18] <suspect> KDE!!!
[11:18] <_jeff> suspect: sombody just adressed us on #ubuntu
[11:19] <paulvolk> YAYAAAA KDE IS THE BEST
[11:19] <suspect> what they said?
[11:19] <suspect> YEAH!!!
[11:19] <_jeff> suspect: they said message ompaul
[11:19] <_jeff> suspect: but there are no promises
[11:19] <suspect> ompaul?
[11:19] <_jeff> yeah
[11:19] <Seantater> ompaul?
[11:19] <suspect> hiow do i message him?
[11:19] <_jeff> lol i dont know
[11:19] <suspect> lol
[11:19] <_jeff> i was just about to ask
[11:20] <suspect> ask them
[11:20] <NoUse> type  /msg nick message
[11:20] <_jeff> ohh
[11:20] <Seantater> paulvolk: be back in a while
[11:20] <paulvolk> What was he banned for?
[11:20] <paulvolk> ok thanks for the help!
[11:20] <suspect> brb
[11:20] <_jeff> nobody would help him so he yelled and cursed
[11:20] <_jeff> lol
[11:20] <Seantater> Anyone here program?
[11:21] <_jeff> y..no
[11:21] <NoUse> Seantater yeah
[11:21] <paulvolk> sometimes people can be really rude on these channels. I had that problem with the SUSE channel
[11:22] <Seantater> NoUse: What language?
[11:22] <Raven301> Where do you get an updated Repositories list?
[11:22] <paulvolk> but since switching I have gotten all the help I have needed
[11:22] <paulvolk> They are really nice and helpfull here
[11:22] <NoUse> Seantater python, java, some shell scripting, PHP
[11:22] <Seantater> paulvolk: I hope I am not an exception
[11:22] <suspect> how do i register my nickname/
[11:22] <Seantater> NoUse, No java, but I do Python, PHP, and BASH
[11:22] <Seantater> NoUse, I perfer Python
[11:22] <NoUse> Seantater cool
[11:22] <suspect> how?
[11:23] <NoUse> Seantater yeah its a nice language
[11:23] <Seantater> NoUse, What have you made?
[11:23] <che_benway> how can i upgrade to dapper without burning a new cd?
[11:23] <NoUse> suspect /msg NickServ help
[11:23] <NoUse> Seantater I submitted a few patches to CastPodder
[11:23] <h3sp4wn> Why does knetworkmanager depend on a huge amount of gnome stuff ? (I was going to test it but if it needs that much stuff I may as well just use the gtk version) I don't need it just wanted to try it
[11:23] <NoUse> Seantater I use java for work
[11:24] <Seantater> NoUse, I've never gotten around to that, But I have made a couple things for fun
[11:24] <Seantater> NoUse, Nothing big
[11:24] <suspect> can you tell me the exact command?
[11:24] <NoUse> suspect I don't it, NickServ will tell you
[11:24] <Seantater> paulvolk still working?
[11:24] <NoUse> don't know*
[11:24] <paulvolk> Yup
[11:25] <Seantater> paulvolk: %?
[11:25] <paulvolk> 20
[11:26] <paulvolk> so Seantater you running drapper?
[11:26] <Seantater> paulvolk: yes
[11:26] <Seantater> paulvolk: I used to have one upgraded from breezy
[11:26] <Seantater> paulvolk: But that can occasionally get buggy
[11:26] <Seantater> paulvolk: so i installed a fresh dapper install
[11:27] <suspect> i dont understand the command
[11:27] <suspect> its confusing
[11:27] <paulvolk> where can you get the visual install CD instead of the text based one?
[11:27] <paulvolk> Want to give it to my friend
[11:27] <Seantater> paulvolk: I do not think you can yet
[11:27] <paulvolk> He is not as compute literat as I am
[11:27] <Seantater> paulvolk: it's still in development last time I checked
[11:27] <vge> is there a text based install?
[11:27] <paulvolk> oh ok
[11:28] <Seantater> paulvolk: The one od dapper now is just like the one on breezy
[11:28] <paulvolk> I guess I will have to install it for him
[11:28] <NoUse> !tell suspect about register
[11:28] <Seantater> paulvolk: Wait until dapper is released, and the GUI will be heer
[11:28] <paulvolk> Nice
[11:28] <vge> question is, what part of install needs to be graphic?
[11:29] <Seantater> vge: IMO, all of it
[11:29] <_jeff> lol the hoary hedgehog install was fine for me
[11:29] <Seantater> Sion: Choose a name and stick with it
[11:29] <vge> well i think the present one is very clear
[11:29] <_jeff> yeah
[11:29] <_jeff> breezy
[11:29] <Sion> i dont know how to register
[11:29] <paulvolk> well the Breezy install was a little complicated and confusing for a noob to linux, plus I am used to the SUSE install which is graphic and amazing looking
[11:29] <Seantater> vge: It;s just not preety
[11:30] <paulvolk> also apeals to a wider veriety of users
[11:30] <_jeff> i found my first ubuntu install last summer very easy and it was my first try on linux
[11:30] <Sion> i dont get the registration
[11:30] <paulvolk> so does dapper have a graphic shutdown?
[11:31] <vge> yes
[11:31] <OdyX> paulvolk: Yep.
[11:31] <paulvolk> nice you have seen it?
[11:31] <Sion> can someone show me the exact command?
[11:31] <Sion> for registering?
[11:31] <NoUse> Sion did you follow the instructions I sent you?
[11:31] <Sion> yes
[11:31] <admrl> anyone know who did the graphics for the graphic shutdown..?
[11:31] <NoUse> Sion how is it confusing?
[11:31] <paulvolk> is it faster, dapper?
[11:31] <_jeff> Python: suspect?
[11:31] <vge> paulvolk: yes
[11:31] <Sion> like do i have to change my nick ont he little box<<<<<<<<<
[11:31] <vge> in a degree
[11:32] <admrl> was it kwwii..?
[11:32] <paulvolk> like a lot faster?
[11:32] <Sion> or type in the nickname after the register word
[11:32] <_jeff> suspect?
[11:32] <_jeff> you there?
[11:32] <Sion> yes?
[11:32] <_jeff> did they unban you?
[11:32] <Sion> this is suspect
[11:32] <Sion> i cant talk to them
[11:32] <Sion> im not registered
[11:32] <paulvolk> vge: is it a lot faster?
[11:32] <_jeff> o
[11:32] <Sion> and its confusing to register
[11:32] <_jeff> yeah i know
[11:33] <Sion> show me the command please
[11:33] <_jeff> i dont remember doing it myself
[11:33] <vge> paulvolk: not that you should upgrade becouse of it
[11:33] <Sion> [Notice]  -NickServ- Syntax: REGISTER <password>
[11:33] <Sion> [17:33]  [Notice]  -NickServ- Type: /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER for more information
[11:33] <paulvolk> no no but I mean you can notice it? not like a fraction of a second thing.
[11:33] <Sion> tahts what happened
[11:33] <Sion> i dont get it
[11:33] <Sion> thats*
[11:33] <Seantater> paulvolk: I cannot notice it
[11:34] <_jeff> hmm
[11:34] <Seantater> paulvolk: However, KDE4 is supposed to be a noticible speed increase
[11:34] <NoUse> Sion you just type /msg NickServ register <yourpassword> , thats all
[11:34] <Seantater> paulvolk: But that's quite a while from now
[11:34] <_jeff> type /msg nickserv register <password>
[11:34] <paulvolk> oh does it have an update notification?
[11:34] <_jeff> yeah
[11:34] <Sion> but sion is already regitered
[11:34] <_jeff> not yeah to paulvolk
[11:34] <Sion> and i dont have it registered
[11:34] <paulvolk> I want an update notification bad
[11:35] <NoUse> Sion ok, so you have to choose a different nick
[11:35] <OdyX> paulvolk: the boot is a lot faster thougg...
[11:35] <paulvolk> cool
[11:35] <paulvolk> anyways I have to go
[11:35] <solan> can any1 help me install mysql++-2.1.1, I'm getting an error [http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12628]  when I try to ./configure. I'v got both libmysql and mysql-client installed...
[11:35] <paulvolk> dinner
[11:35] <paulvolk> bye
[11:35] <paulvolk> and thanks for the help
[11:35] <BeerBaby> is there anyone here that can help me with wireless on kubuntu?
[11:36] <ZeLL91> finalley
[11:36] <ZeLL91> finally
[11:36] <_jeff> take it easy paul
[11:36] <solan> BeerBaby: have you done anything yet?
[11:36] <NoUse> solan can't you use the mysql that is in apt?
[11:36] <BeerBaby> well i have everything working drivers etc with ndis
[11:36] <_jeff> whats the problem then?
[11:36] <BeerBaby> except the essid still says no/any
[11:36] <_jeff> get a wifi manager
[11:37] <solan> NoUse: I'v installed a couple of mysql clients via apt, but it still doesn't work...
[11:37] <BeerBaby> even when i use the iwconfig command it doesnt take it... umm wifi manager?
[11:37] <ZeLL91> ok i messaged ompaul
[11:37] <BeerBaby> sorry this is all new to me lol
[11:37] <_jeff> i like wifi radar
[11:37] <NoUse> solan you need to install the server as well as the client
[11:37] <solan> BeerBaby: gkwifi, It's really neat if you running GNOME;)
[11:37] <ZeLL91> hes not answering though
[11:37] <_jeff> o
[11:37] <BeerBaby> eeep kde here unfortunately
[11:37] <ZeLL91> _jeff
[11:38] <solan> hmmm... have you got the drivers, and the hole lot up and running?
[11:38] <BeerBaby> wifi radar, ok well ill give it a whirl. this has been doing my head in for hours now lol
[11:38] <_jeff> BeerBaby: lol its not unfortunate, just search in adept for wifi
[11:38] <ZeLL91> can you tel them hes not answering me?
[11:38] <NoUse> solan the drivers for what? php?
[11:38] <BeerBaby> yea i use the ndiswrapper or wotever it is
[11:38] <_jeff> ZeLL91: yeah ill try
[11:38] <ZeLL91> ok
[11:38] <_jeff> he may not be at the computer though
[11:38] <solan> NoUse: sorre, was talking to BeerBaby...
[11:39] <solan> what card are you using?
[11:39] <solan> NoUse: nope, installed the mysql-server that apt's got, and still got the same error...
[11:39] <BeerBaby> umm buffalo wl12 pci g54s
[11:40] <ZeLL91> nevermind _jeff
[11:40] <NoUse> solan which error?
[11:40] <BeerBaby> in kwifimanager it said it was connected, green bar and everythinig. to what i dont know
[11:40] <_jeff> hes talking to you now?
[11:40] <ZeLL91> yeah
[11:40] <solan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12628
[11:40] <_jeff> BeerBaby: yeah kwifi is stupid, it always does that
[11:41] <_jeff> BeerBaby: at least for me
[11:41] <BeerBaby> lol and um i scan for networks and it can see the AP but i double click and nothing happens
[11:41] <solan> BeerBaby: me2...
[11:41] <_jeff> BeerBaby: lol i know, its retarted
[11:41] <BeerBaby> im glad im not the only one lol
[11:41] <BeerBaby> cuzz i felt like i was being stupid or sumthiin
[11:42] <solan> BeerBaby: have you tried using the Wireless Network option in Control Center?
[11:42] <vge> well, atleast you can see the AP -.-
[11:42] <BeerBaby> yup i tried that
[11:42] <solan> nothing?
[11:42] <ZeLL91> and i still don't know how to install macromedia flash player
[11:42] <BeerBaby> well under network name
[11:42] <_jeff> ZeLL91: lol i hate how mods act like they are gods
[11:42] <BeerBaby> do i put the SSID in there or
[11:42] <ZeLL91> lol
[11:43] <BeerBaby> i did that anyway lol
[11:43] <BeerBaby> but it didnt pick it up still
[11:43] <vge> ZeLL91: tryed installing it from macromedia.com? works for me
[11:43] <_jeff> ZeLL91: he just /msgd me and told me to step away from the keyboard because ive done my good deed for the day
[11:43] <ZeLL91> = )
[11:43] <solan> BeerBaby: 2secs...
[11:43] <_jeff> lol
[11:43] <BeerBaby> ok thanks
[11:43] <ZeLL91> lol
[11:44] <temi> Hey, i have like 150gb of free space, how to i make it usuable?
[11:44] <ZeLL91> you're the best if he unbans me
[11:44] <_jeff> lol
[11:44] <_jeff> yeah that would make me the best
[11:44] <ZeLL91> = D
[11:44] <NoUse> solan you need the mysql dev files, I think its in the libmysqlclient14-dev package
[11:44] <ZeLL91> so how did you install macromedia?
[11:44] <_jeff> me?
[11:45] <ZeLL91> yes
[11:45] <vge> temi: post the HD to me, i can use it for free if you like? you dont have to pay me anything ;)
[11:45] <_jeff> lol i /still/ dont have flash working
[11:45] <ZeLL91> ahh
[11:45] <temi> lol vge
[11:45] <ZeLL91> lol
[11:45] <_jeff> i know
[11:45] <ZeLL91> i know a easy way
[11:45] <ZeLL91> = )
[11:45] <_jeff> since i got breezy, my flash hasnt worked
[11:45] <temi> vge: its a partitioned drive lol
[11:46] <ZeLL91> ok all you have to do is go to ubuntu and go to a page that has flash and install it there
[11:46] <ZeLL91> and you will have it here
[11:46] <ZeLL91> lol
[11:46] <ZeLL91> = )
[11:46] <vge> _jeff: you get tiny or no text at all in flash?
[11:47] <_jeff> konqueror and firefox think i dont have the plugin
[11:47] <_jeff> and i dont know if i do :(
[11:47] <_jeff> ive installed the packages
[11:47] <ZeLL91> just go to ubuntu and go to firefox
[11:47] <_jeff> in regular old ubuntu too
[11:47] <temi> Anyone, i have hd space thats free, and i want to make it usuable, do i need to use the cd and go to partitioning or is there an easier way?
[11:47] <ZeLL91> then go to a page that has a flash thing and install the missing things
[11:47] <_jeff> temi: i dont know
[11:48] <BeerBaby> oh and administrator mode didnt work the next day even when i typed in the password. it just took me back to the same screen. so i just enabled root for now lol
[11:48] <temi> arg!
[11:48] <ZeLL91> !arf
[11:48] <ubotu> ZeLL91: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:48] <_jeff> ZeLL91: i tried that a while back and it still didnt work
[11:48] <ZeLL91> worked for me
[11:48] <_jeff> !ping
[11:48] <ubotu> pong
[11:48] <ZeLL91> = )
[11:49] <ZeLL91> moo
[11:49] <temi> Anyone know how to mount empty area?
[11:49] <hussam> where are the difference in packages between installing kubuntu dapper beta using live and install CD?
[11:50] <_jeff> is there any difference between dapper beta and flight 6?
[11:50] <temi> hussam: live doesnt instal anything, it runs from the cd, and the cd install everything on your pc and you dont need the cd
[11:50] <LogicalDash> I've been told that to make a command run on startup, I've got to create a .desktop file in ~/.kde/Autostart ...but what should be in the .desktop file?
[11:50] <solan> BeerBaby: do U get anything? IP? DHCP-server..?
[11:50] <Pupeno> any program to convert times between timezones ? I want to know what time is 10 am PST in UTC.
[11:50] <BeerBaby> its going to be a static ip so i set that
[11:50] <BeerBaby> and i also set the subnet mask
[11:51] <solan> NoUse: have you found anything....? sorry, but I went offline a bit...
[11:51] <solan> iptables -L?
[11:51] <NoUse> solan you need the mysql dev files, I think its in
[11:51] <NoUse>           the libmysqlclient14-dev package
[11:51] <solan> oh... thx man;)
[11:51] <ZeLL91> !tell _jeff about sex
[11:51] <BeerBaby> ummms
[11:51] <_jeff> lol
[11:51] <ZeLL91> lol
[11:51] <ZeLL91> i was bored
[11:51] <ZeLL91> = \
[11:51] <_jeff> hahaha
[11:51] <ZeLL91> hohoho
[11:52] <BeerBaby> well i dont think its going to be a routing issue cuzz its a static WAN ip
[11:52] <BeerBaby> but ill check
[11:52] <ZeLL91> T)
[11:52] <_jeff> where are you from ZeLL91
[11:52] <hussam> temi: I thought the live cd had a install feature
[11:52] <ZeLL91> new york
[11:52] <ZeLL91> bronx
[11:52] <ZeLL91> and yourself?
[11:52] <_jeff> toronto canada
[11:52] <ZeLL91> oh
[11:52] <_jeff> im like 5 hours away
[11:52] <ZeLL91> is canada cool?
[11:52] <_jeff> yeah canada is good
[11:52] <asraniel> are there somewhere up to date breezy install cds? i have to install it on a pc without internet
[11:53] <solan> NoUse: thx man! it worked:)
[11:53] <_jeff> i like the bronx though
[11:53] <ZeLL91> = )
[11:53] <_jeff> lol
[11:53] <ZeLL91> i hate it = (
[11:53] <ZeLL91> LOL
[11:53] <_jeff> how come?
[11:53] <ZeLL91> too much violence
[11:53] <_jeff> oh
[11:54] <_jeff> lol yeah last time i was there, i saw a car get broken into in broad daylight
[11:54] <_jeff> it was awesome
[11:54] <NoUse> solan np
[11:59] <_jeff> does anybody here use irc to download copyrighted material?
[11:59] <_jeff> because i want to start..
[12:00] <Raven301> lol @ _jeff question
[12:00] <Riddell> _jeff: this is a kubuntu support channel, not a warez channel
[12:00] <_jeff> sorry
[12:02] <vge> temisupper: byteway, did you try gparted?
[12:02] <_jeff> so ahh
[12:02] <Riddell> asraniel: ubuntu breezy CDs havn't been made yet
[12:03] <hussam> Riddell: Hi, does the installer included on the kubuntu dapper beta cd install the same package set as the regular installer cd?
[12:03] <_jeff> is there any way to make knotify notifications better looking?
[12:03] <Riddell> hussam: yes
[12:03] <hussam> Riddell: I meant the live cd
[12:03] <Riddell> _jeff: sadly no
[12:03] <_jeff> Riddell: poop
[12:03] <Riddell> hussam: yes it does, but it's most likely broken on the beta live CD :(
[12:04] <_soup> how to get gnome like network icon in panel in kubuntu ?
[12:04] <hussam> Riddell: so I get the installer, not the live cd.