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| ajmitch | hi tritium :) | 01:25 |
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| tritium | hi ajmitch :) | 01:26 |
| tritium | crimsun: where do you keep your pbuilder? on a usb stick or drive? | 01:27 |
| crimsun | usb hd | 01:27 |
| ajmitch | great, the discussions about edgy have hit various news sites | 01:27 |
| ajmitch | including slashdot | 01:27 |
| crimsun | this x41 lacks sufficient hd space for pbuilders | 01:27 |
| ajmitch | really? | 01:27 |
| ajmitch | how much diskspace does it have? | 01:28 |
| crimsun | 36G, 29G of which is NTFS | 01:28 |
| ajmitch | ah, you have to use windows a bit on there? | 01:29 |
| crimsun | yeah | 01:29 |
| ajmitch | how unfortunate | 01:30 |
| crimsun | quite | 01:30 |
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| ajmitch | there's 8GB unallocated with LVM, I think I might use that for sbuild+schroot | 01:31 |
| tritium | crimsun: perhaps there's a bright side. is it 7200 rpm? | 01:31 |
| crimsun | tritium: no, but there's an even brighter side than its lower rpm, the fact that it's a Canonical machine | 01:31 |
| crimsun | can't really complain about hardware that's loaned/granted to me | 01:32 |
| tritium | crimsun: my same philosophy ;) | 01:32 |
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| crimsun | great, vlc doesn't crash when I run it through valgrind. This is not going to be a fun night. | 01:49 |
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| Xk2c | crimsun: maybe i could make your day ;) | 01:56 |
| Xk2c | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/vtk/+bug/29821/+index | 01:56 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 29821 in vtk "merge new debian version" [Normal,Fix released] | 01:56 |
| Xk2c | could please have look at it | 01:56 |
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| LaserJock | Xk2c: I don't think it downgraded | 02:12 |
| Xk2c | Then i do not understand | 02:13 |
| Xk2c | Version: 4.4.2-8ubuntu1 > Version: 4.4.2-6ubuntu2 | 02:14 |
| LaserJock | Xk2c: well, it looks like we need to merge a new Debian version | 02:14 |
| LaserJock | Xk2c: the current dapper version looks like -8ubuntu1 to me | 02:14 |
| Xk2c | doh | 02:15 |
| Xk2c | sorry | 02:15 |
| Xk2c | my fault | 02:15 |
| Xk2c | i checked in the wrong terminal | 02:15 |
| LaserJock | heh, that happens | 02:16 |
| Xk2c | ;) | 02:16 |
| LaserJock | but you realize you shouldn't be using breezy anyway, we have to get going on edgy pretty soon ;-) | 02:19 |
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| Xk2c | *lol* | 02:24 |
| Xk2c | i upgarded my backupsystem yesterday to dapper | 02:24 |
| Xk2c | LaserJock: do have something for a bloody beginner to get his handy dirty? | 02:25 |
| Xk2c | i check the bug reports but they seem a bit high level | 02:26 |
| LaserJock | Xk2c: how do you mean? you don't know how to fix bugs? | 02:27 |
| Xk2c | i do not know how to patch and build something yes | 02:27 |
| LaserJock | heh, well welcome to the club ;-) | 02:28 |
| Xk2c | *lol* | 02:28 |
| Xk2c | :D | 02:28 |
| Xk2c | but therefor dapper is quite good | 02:28 |
| Xk2c | i have to say | 02:28 |
| Xk2c | cu | 02:43 |
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| Hobbsee | morning all | 03:33 |
| bmonty | hi Hobbsee | 03:34 |
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| ajmitch_1 | sigh | 04:24 |
| ajmitch_1 | severe phone line issues today | 04:24 |
| Hobbsee | hi ajmitch_1 | 04:24 |
| Hobbsee | so it seems | 04:24 |
| ajmitch_1 | I think it's related to the roadworks outside | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch_1: 4 of you...that's pretty good though...can you type from 4 at once? | 04:25 |
| ajmitch_1 | very noticeable when talking to someone | 04:25 |
| ajmitch_1 | sadly not | 04:25 |
| ajmitch | hopefully it'll stay stable for 5 minutes or so | 04:27 |
| ajmitch | if I can be so lucky :) | 04:27 |
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| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:30 |
| Toadstool | hey motus | 04:38 |
| ajmitch | hi | 04:39 |
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| Hobbsee | hi Toadstool | 04:39 |
| Toadstool | hi Hobbsee and ajmitch | 04:39 |
| Toadstool | hum... I've got only 3 hours left to sleep... | 04:42 |
| Toadstool | good night :) | 04:42 |
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| Kyral | hey guys and Hobbsee :P | 04:53 |
| Hobbsee | heya Kyral | 04:53 |
| Kyral | The Edgy Eft will be most fun :D | 04:54 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:54 |
| Hobbsee | Kyral: is that what it's really called? | 04:54 |
| Kyral | Yah | 04:54 |
| jmg | it should have been edgy elephant | 04:55 |
| Kyral | oh jmg | 04:55 |
| === Hobbsee thinks eft=eftpos | ||
| Hobbsee | jmg: yeah, that'd be fun :P | 04:55 |
| Kyral | wanna work with me on Xen for Edgy? | 04:55 |
| jmg | Kyral: i thought it was me and hunger | 04:55 |
| jmg | but sure | 04:55 |
| jmg | :) | 04:55 |
| Kyral | jmg, at my school, Xen is our specialty | 04:56 |
| jmg | xen is my speciality | 04:56 |
| jmg | im working on xenifying the livecds :) | 04:56 |
| Kyral | Clarkson University | 04:56 |
| Kyral | Mean anything to you :P | 04:56 |
| jmg | oh you guys had the person that was supposed to do the soc stuff | 04:57 |
| jmg | but then he dissapeared :p | 04:57 |
| === Kyral falls down | ||
| jmg | and made a big announcement and even created xen.cosi.clarkson.edu | 04:57 |
| Kyral | I'm gonna talk to the guy responsible for JXenophilla | 04:57 |
| jmg | which promptly went offline | 04:57 |
| Kyral | Uhh, we have had server troubles | 04:57 |
| jmg | xenophilia is crap | 04:57 |
| Kyral | we lost a RAID last week | 04:57 |
| Kyral | You name another GUI for Xen | 04:58 |
| jmg | sounds like you need a new it team | 04:58 |
| Kyral | err | 04:58 |
| Kyral | LVM Volume | 04:58 |
| jmg | xe | 04:58 |
| Kyral | meh | 04:58 |
| jmg | ive registered xenubuntu.com and .org | 04:59 |
| LaserJock | hi Hobbsee, how's the finger? | 05:03 |
| Hobbsee | hey LaserJock - it looks like it's been grated, but it stopped bleeding, which is good :D | 05:03 |
| Hobbsee | means i can type again! | 05:03 |
| LaserJock | good, you sure were having problems yesterday | 05:04 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: a nice polite way of putting it :) | 05:04 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: I'm alway polite ;-) | 05:04 |
| Kyral | wtf happened? | 05:04 |
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| LaserJock | Kyral: Hobbsee cut her finger and so had a bandaid on and couldn't type very well | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: LOL! | 05:08 |
| === Kyral kisses Hobbsee's finger :P | ||
| === Hobbsee thwacks Kyral :P | ||
| Kyral | ow! | 05:08 |
| Kyral | at least I didn't kiss you passionately | 05:08 |
| Hobbsee | the worst of the spelling errors i took out, you know... | 05:09 |
| Hobbsee | urgh...if you did.....you would not be very happy afterwards... | 05:09 |
| Kyral | Hammerspace? | 05:09 |
| LaserJock | yikes, cool it down kids | 05:09 |
| LaserJock | ;-) | 05:09 |
| Kyral | KID?! | 05:09 |
| Kyral | I'm 20 years old thank you! | 05:09 |
| Kyral | :P | 05:09 |
| ajmitch | Kyral: yes, exactly. | 05:09 |
| Yagisan | G'day all | 05:10 |
| Hobbsee | Kyral: yes. you are a kid. you're under the age of adulthood... | 05:10 |
| Kyral | I'm over 18.... | 05:10 |
| ajmitch | hi Yagisan | 05:10 |
| Hobbsee | thought over there it was 21 | 05:10 |
| Hobbsee | hi Yagisan | 05:10 |
| Kyral | No | 05:10 |
| === Hobbsee will be able to drink before Kyral can - now that does seem weird! | ||
| Kyral | 21 is when you can DRINK | 05:10 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: 18 in AUs, 21 in Japan TTBOMK | 05:10 |
| Hobbsee | ah, well there you go | 05:10 |
| Kyral | 18 you can do everything else | 05:10 |
| Hobbsee | seems stupid to me | 05:10 |
| Yagisan | and 16 if you want to get laid | 05:10 |
| jamessan | Yagisan: depends on the state | 05:11 |
| Kyral | yah | 05:11 |
| Yagisan | or if you are gay | 05:11 |
| Kyral | its like 14 in some states | 05:11 |
| jamessan | and the age difference between the involved people | 05:11 |
| Yagisan | yeah. just a general guideline | 05:11 |
| === Yagisan had interesting experience at the doctor | ||
| === Hobbsee blocks her ears :P | ||
| Yagisan | Walked into a packed waiting room | 05:12 |
| Yagisan | nurse asked how I was | 05:12 |
| === Hobbsee blocks her eyes as well, which is what she first tried to type | ||
| Yagisan | I thought it was a dumb question. I don't go unless I'm sick | 05:13 |
| Yagisan | so I said "Infectious" | 05:13 |
| ajmitch | hah | 05:13 |
| Yagisan | I got a seat and was seen *very* quickly | 05:13 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: what'd you tell her? that you were about to die on the nice clean floor or something, and force her to clean it all up? | 05:13 |
| Hobbsee | hehe! | 05:13 |
| ajmitch | how long did it take the waiting room to clear? | 05:13 |
| Yagisan | no one would sit near me :( | 05:13 |
| ajmitch | such a shame | 05:14 |
| Yagisan | how can I get better if I don't give it to someone else | 05:14 |
| Yagisan | oh well. can I get a NTSC user to confirm that telesync is broken in Bug #39819 | 05:15 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 39819 in avidemux "UVF exception request: avidemux (2.1.1 -> 2.1.2)" [Normal,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/39819 | 05:15 |
| Yagisan | My NTSC dvd is stuffed, so I can't confirm it | 05:16 |
| LaserJock | hmm, is 200 Watts too little for a microATX board with 2 hard drive, a graphics card, and 2 cd drives? | 05:21 |
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| Yagisan | ooh. my exchange gets adsl 2+ next month. | 05:36 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: yay! | 05:36 |
| Hobbsee | is adsl 2 faster than cable? | 05:36 |
| === Hobbsee always seems to get confused with the speeds | ||
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: 24000/1000 | 05:36 |
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| Yagisan | Hobbsee: thats' "2+" with tpg | 05:37 |
| === Hobbsee wonders how fast cable is... | ||
| Yagisan | so yaeh, looks faster | 05:37 |
| Hobbsee | ah yep | 05:37 |
| Hobbsee | nice | 05:37 |
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| === ajmitch__ is giving up on this, I think | ||
| Yagisan | anyone here use an ide to code & debug ? Any suggestions ? | 05:40 |
| Kyral | vim | 05:40 |
| ajmitch | only emacs, sorry | 05:40 |
| Kyral | or emacs | 05:40 |
| Kyral | depends on my mood | 05:40 |
| Hobbsee | kate :P | 05:40 |
| LaserJock | Yagisan: what language? | 05:40 |
| Yagisan | C, C++, Makefiles | 05:41 |
| Yagisan | sometime x86/amd64 asm | 05:42 |
| === Hobbsee likes kate, with the terminal at the bottom :P | ||
| LaserJock | Yagisan: would eclipse work? | 05:42 |
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| LaserJock | Hobbsee: that is one of my favorite features of KDE | 05:43 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 05:43 |
| Yagisan | LaserJock: I don't know. I'll check it out | 05:44 |
| LaserJock | I only know FORTRAN, a little bit of C, and Python so I'm not much help | 05:45 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: I was using just a text editor, but well, it doesn't catch that many mistakes | 05:45 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: that is true. dont they get caught when you compile though? | 05:45 |
| seth|lappy | Hobbsee, I use yaKuake instead of the Kate terminal, for some reason | 05:45 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: some yes. usually after 10-15 minutes of building though. | 05:46 |
| Hobbsee | seth|away: mmm ok | 05:46 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: hehe, good point | 05:46 |
| Yagisan | LaserJock: eclipse has a lot of deps, doesn't it. | 05:48 |
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| LaserJock | Yagisan: it could. I don't actually use it | 05:49 |
| LaserJock | I usually use vim or IDLE for python (sometimes SPE too) | 05:50 |
| LaserJock | sweet, I just pulled a MB | 05:51 |
| === Yagisan fires off another build while waiting for eclipse to d/l | ||
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| Yagisan | cool. GCC can tell you what functions it is actually building. | 05:58 |
| === Hobbsee pokes ajmitch__ | ||
| ajmitch__ | hi | 05:59 |
| ajmitch__ | yes, I'm here for a few more seconds | 06:00 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 06:00 |
| === ajmitch__ hears another loud crackle | ||
| Hobbsee | ajmitch__: it sounds like you should go into the uni, with a decent connection, and do no uni work :P | 06:00 |
| === LaserJock thinks it must be the beginning of some sort of aussie invasion. Disruption of communications ;-) | ||
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: exactly. just you wait.. | 06:03 |
| LaserJock | well, I feel pretty safe here in the US but I'm sure it is coming ;-) | 06:04 |
| Yagisan | yes. just think of all those lamb chops waiting for us over there. | 06:04 |
| LaserJock | yikes | 06:04 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 06:04 |
| Hobbsee | that's a good point | 06:05 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: so start the missiles? | 06:05 |
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| Yagisan | Hobbsee: just as soon as we have enough mint sauce | 06:06 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 06:06 |
| Hobbsee | wb ajmitch | 06:06 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: you think the sheep could replace the kangaroos here, as a form of transport? | 06:06 |
| Yagisan | Hobbsee: might be difficult. They do taste good, so it's hard to resist the urge to eat them | 06:07 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: yes, but there are so many of htem... | 06:08 |
| LaserJock | wait, who has all the sheep? | 06:08 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: the land of new zealand... | 06:08 |
| LaserJock | ah, I thought it was .au | 06:08 |
| Hobbsee | well, one could argue that it's effectively part of au :P | 06:08 |
| ajmitch | .au has more sheep :P | 06:09 |
| Hobbsee | going into NZ - there are 2 gates, for customs: 1: the au + nz gate, 2: the rest of the world | 06:09 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch. but not per person ;) | 06:09 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 06:09 |
| === ajmitch thinks that telecom would have more success with IP over carrier pigeon than DSL here | ||
| Hobbsee | LOL! | 06:09 |
| Hobbsee | go carrier pigeons! | 06:09 |
| ajmitch | I'd sure it'd be more reliable | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I used to raise sheep. I wasn't terribly fond of them. | 06:10 |
| === tritium_ contemplates channel coding for carrier pidgeon physical layer | ||
| Hobbsee | how about using swallows in the place of carrier pidgeons? | 06:10 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: european or african? | 06:10 |
| Kyral | lol | 06:11 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 06:11 |
| Hobbsee | glad someone picked up the reference :P | 06:11 |
| LaserJock | and are they carrying cocanuts | 06:11 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: NI! | 06:11 |
| tritium_ | you'd get diversity gain by using multiple types of birds ;) | 06:11 |
| Kyral | Nif! | 06:11 |
| Kyral | NIF! | 06:11 |
| Kyral | NIF!!! | 06:11 |
| Hobbsee | no, ni! | 06:11 |
| Kyral | no its NIF! | 06:11 |
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| === EvilHobbsee DEMANDS a shrubbery! | ||
| LaserJock | Burn Her! | 06:11 |
| EvilHobbsee | she's a witch! | 06:12 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 06:12 |
| LaserJock | she turned me into a newt, and edgy eft in fact ;-) | 06:12 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: better that than what happened to the black knight you know... | 06:12 |
| Hobbsee | "it's only a flesh wound" | 06:13 |
| Kyral | I seriously saw some guy doing the Horse thing yesterday | 06:13 |
| LaserJock | come back here | 06:13 |
| LaserJock | I'll bite your legs off | 06:13 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 06:14 |
| === Hobbsee tells the killer rabbit to go after Kyral | ||
| Kyral | Not gonna happen | 06:14 |
| === LaserJock brings out the Holy Hand Grenade | ||
| === Kyral morphs into Mega Man X's Shadow Armor | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 06:14 |
| Hobbsee | now who can quote the holy scriptures for that? | 06:15 |
| Hobbsee | all of it | 06:15 |
| === Kyral slashes the bunny in half | ||
| === Hobbsee watches as the bunny remains savage Kyral | ||
| === Kyral leaps backward | ||
| LaserJock | and the number of the counting shall be three | 06:16 |
| LaserJock | no more, no less | 06:16 |
| LaserJock | 5 is right out | 06:16 |
| === Kyral attacks with the Shurikan Buster | ||
| === Hobbsee used various parts of monty python as her msn screen name, for a while | ||
| LaserJock | dang it Hobbsee, now I'm going to go have to watch it or do some Python coding or something | 06:17 |
| Hobbsee | hehe! | 06:17 |
| Kyral | some Monty Python coding! | 06:17 |
| Hobbsee | ooh yeah! | 06:17 |
| Hobbsee | that'd be fun | 06:17 |
| LaserJock | yeah, the docs have little references and quotes | 06:17 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 06:18 |
| Hobbsee | i believe they're known as easter eggs, so why not? | 06:18 |
| Kyral | Create a variable named "Holy_Hand_Grenade_Of_Antitoch" | 06:18 |
| Hobbsee | hehe! | 06:18 |
| === Hobbsee considers doing that for her computer assignment :P | ||
| Hobbsee | wonder if i'd get marked down for it... | 06:18 |
| Kyral | if it EVER is equal to 3, exit :P | 06:18 |
| LaserJock | I think they should have a ferocous man eating rabitt for an icon instead of the stupid snakes ;-) | 06:19 |
| Hobbsee | Kyral: hehe! | 06:19 |
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| Gloubiboulga | hello | 06:21 |
| Kyral | DUCK! | 06:21 |
| Hobbsee | hi Gloubiboulga | 06:21 |
| === Kyral hits the ground as the HHGOA goes off | ||
| Yagisan | wow. eclipise is slow to load | 06:22 |
| === Hobbsee demands a shrubbery from Gloubiboulga | ||
| Kyral | NIF!!! | 06:22 |
| Hobbsee | ni! | 06:22 |
| Kyral | it! | 06:22 |
| === Hobbsee gasps, and runs away! | ||
| Kyral | it! it! it! | 06:22 |
| === Gloubiboulga looks in his dictionary what is a shrubbery :) | ||
| Kyral | IT! IT! IT!!! | 06:22 |
| === Hobbsee throws large animals down onto Kyral, off the top of her castle | ||
| === Hobbsee watches a large cow go flying | ||
| === Kyral dodges | ||
| LaserJock | moooooo | 06:23 |
| === Kyral charges and lets fly with the Shurikan Buster | ||
| LaserJock | ok, ok there must be work that we need to be doing | 06:23 |
| === Hobbsee throws another cow at LaserJock - shh! | ||
| === Kyral leaps and turns it into steak with his Sabre | ||
| ajmitch | LaserJock: yes, the channel has gone downhill somewhat | 06:24 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 06:24 |
| Hobbsee | all right, who started the MP talk? they should be told off... | 06:24 |
| Kyral | I think you did | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | oh drat, that was me! | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | okay, they shouldnt be told off then :P | 06:25 |
| === Kyral picks up Hobbsee and throws her into #gentoo | ||
| Hobbsee | argh! | 06:25 |
| === Hobbsee bounces around | ||
| seth|lappy | not #gentoo! | 06:26 |
| seth|lappy | that's just harsh | 06:26 |
| ajmitch | simple solution, just burn her | 06:26 |
| Hobbsee | she's a witch! | 06:27 |
| === Kyral deactivates Shadow Armor and switches to a flame weapon | ||
| Kyral | Someone called for fire? | 06:27 |
| Hobbsee | yes, in the fireplace please | 06:28 |
| seth|lappy | back to coding for me | 06:28 |
| seth|lappy | g'night peoples | 06:28 |
| Hobbsee | night seth|lappy | 06:28 |
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| Yagisan | Hobbsee: used kdevelop ? | 06:34 |
| Hobbsee | Yagisan: a couple of times | 06:35 |
| Hobbsee | not a lot | 06:35 |
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| Unfrgiven | hi all | 06:38 |
| ajmitch | hi Unfrgiven | 06:38 |
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| Unfrgiven | i was thinking today... we really need a good GUI svn client for linux | 06:38 |
| ajmitch | like rapidsvn? | 06:38 |
| Unfrgiven | something like tortoiseSVN for Natulius would be great | 06:38 |
| Unfrgiven | ajmitch: i currently use rapidsvn but its not even close to as good as tortoise | 06:39 |
| lifeless | Unfrgiven: dude, good *BZR* client. | 06:39 |
| tritium_ | agreed, Unfrgiven | 06:39 |
| ajmitch | lifeless: definitely needed | 06:39 |
| Unfrgiven | lifeless: well svn is more widely used in most open source projects than bzr | 06:39 |
| Unfrgiven | perhaps we could write a nautlius plugin that abstracts the underlying vcs system? | 06:40 |
| LaserJock | I vote for both svn and bzr GUIs, although I'm not sure what I'd do with them | 06:40 |
| Yagisan | Unfrgiven: I tried all that we have for ubuntu. I went back to the command line. | 06:41 |
| Unfrgiven | has anyone here used tortoisesvn? | 06:41 |
| LaserJock | yes | 06:41 |
| === ajmitch has | ||
| Unfrgiven | Yagisan: yeah and IMO, CLI is not great when dealing with lotsa files | 06:42 |
| LaserJock | cause I couldn't figure out how to use svn from CLI in windows ;-) | 06:42 |
| jmg | harden up and use cli | 06:42 |
| jmg | tortoise sux | 06:42 |
| Kyral | There is a CLI in Winblows? | 06:42 |
| jmg | yes | 06:42 |
| jmg | cli subversion client | 06:42 |
| Unfrgiven | jmg: yeah nice constructive argument there | 06:42 |
| jmg | Unfrgiven: if you ever run wininternals you'll see why tortoise blows | 06:42 |
| jmg | sysinternals* | 06:43 |
| Unfrgiven | jmg: well i havent. what i like about tortoise is the functionality | 06:43 |
| jmg | every time you open a file, or browse to a folder, or do anything, it tries to open a .svn directory | 06:43 |
| tritium_ | LaserJock: did you know Amazon.com sells Ph.D. theses? I just found mine for $55 :( | 06:43 |
| jmg | this applies to every single operation | 06:43 |
| LaserJock | tritium_: holy cow, really? | 06:43 |
| tritium_ | yeah | 06:43 |
| Unfrgiven | jmg: so? | 06:43 |
| jmg | like loading dlls | 06:43 |
| tritium_ | LaserJock: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EWB4YU/103-6409456-1700623?v=glance&n=551440 | 06:43 |
| jmg | Unfrgiven: so thats fscking retarded | 06:44 |
| jmg | as for svn clients | 06:44 |
| jmg | use kde | 06:44 |
| LaserJock | tritium_: cool | 06:44 |
| ajmitch | tritium_: and you'd get nothing, I guess? | 06:44 |
| tritium_ | LaserJock: I better get any royalties for that being sold... | 06:44 |
| tritium_ | ajmitch: I'm supposed to | 06:44 |
| Unfrgiven | jmg: ok so thats poor implementation. but what does a user care about the implementation? if the application is user friendly and functionally rich, thats good enough for most people. | 06:44 |
| Unfrgiven | jmg: "use kde" - another constuctive argument | 06:45 |
| jmg | Unfrgiven: the user doesnt use svn. the developer does | 06:45 |
| tritium_ | LaserJock_away: not so sure it's cool | 06:45 |
| jmg | Unfrgiven: kde has nice svn integration to konqueror through kioslaves | 06:45 |
| Unfrgiven | a developer that uses tortise, is a tortoise user | 06:45 |
| jmg | tritium: buy a copy and see if you get any royalties | 06:46 |
| jmg | Unfrgiven: the user cares when it slows wintendo down to a crawl | 06:46 |
| tritium_ | jmg: it's not worth the money ;) | 06:46 |
| jmg | tritium: well, you could buy it from amazon and then sue them for not paying royalties | 06:47 |
| tritium_ | heh | 06:47 |
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| Hobbsee_away | ni! | 07:40 |
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| Hobbsee | er...hello? | 08:03 |
| ajmitch | er...hi | 08:04 |
| Hobbsee | goody, thought the connection had dropped out | 08:04 |
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| === Yagisan is screwed :( | ||
| ajmitch | Yagisan: how so? | 08:38 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: I need to find external emplyment fast | 08:38 |
| ajmitch | ah, business just not going? | 08:39 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: it has been very slow since wife's injury, and I've just had something unexpected come up thats going to cost me more money then I have | 08:40 |
| ajmitch | :( | 08:40 |
| ajmitch | I hope you can find something fast then | 08:40 |
| Yagisan | ajmitch: me too. | 08:41 |
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| cbx33 | hi freeflying | 08:55 |
| === Yagisan wishes he had a mute button for his wife | ||
| freeflying | cbx33: hey | 08:56 |
| cbx33 | Yagisan: :p | 08:56 |
| cbx33 | she bugging you? | 08:56 |
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| cbx33 | how would one go about manualy testing a man page | 09:09 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 09:17 |
| Unfrgiven | dholbach: hey | 09:17 |
| dholbach | hey Unfrgiven | 09:17 |
| highvoltage | Unfrgiven: does your nick come from a metallica song? | 09:18 |
| Unfrgiven | highvoltage: yeah! does yours from a linkin park song? :) | 09:18 |
| Unfrgiven | dholbach: how u doin | 09:19 |
| highvoltage | Unfrgiven: yes, in fact. from the reanimation CD. | 09:19 |
| Unfrgiven | highvoltage: actually high voltage was written before hybrid theory and just remixed on reanimation | 09:20 |
| dholbach | Unfrgiven: waking up, but otherwise fine, will do a bunch of CD test installs today | 09:20 |
| highvoltage | Unfrgiven: i was listening to the song over and over so that i could sing all the lyrics word for word. and my father walked in and said "You're starting to look like a highvoltage". that was about the same time i signed up for an isp service, and had to enter a name for my e-mail address, so i thought 'highvoltage' would be a logical choice | 09:20 |
| Unfrgiven | dholbach: cool | 09:20 |
| highvoltage | Unfrgiven: yes, i heard the original highvoltage (which I like more) after i chose the nick | 09:20 |
| highvoltage | Unfrgiven: then there's also the version on the DVD, which is quite cool | 09:20 |
| Unfrgiven | highvoltage: in my case Unforgiven is my favourite metallica song :) | 09:20 |
| Unfrgiven | highvoltage: but my then irc client had a character limit.. so I dropped the 'o' | 09:21 |
| highvoltage | aaah | 09:21 |
| Yagisan | cbx33: she's upset with me. her parents are ill, and we don't have the money for her to see them | 09:21 |
| Unfrgiven | Yagisan: oh dear. that sux man, i hope things work out for you | 09:22 |
| Yagisan | I neglected my business to look after her, when she was injured, and as a result we are very low on cash | 09:22 |
| Yagisan | so I need to a) get more customers, and b) pick up a second job | 09:23 |
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| Yagisan | mm. kdevelop looks nice | 10:10 |
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| Yagisan | cool. it finds all the fixmes | 10:13 |
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| Hobbsee | wb ajmitch! | 10:50 |
| jmg | Yagisan: whats your businesS? | 10:51 |
| ajmitch | thanks | 10:51 |
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| \sh | moins | 10:59 |
| jmg | moinmoins | 10:59 |
| ajmitch | morning \sh | 11:00 |
| Hobbsee | hi \sh | 11:03 |
| Yagisan | jmg: http://eyagi.bpa.nu/eyagi | 11:12 |
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| siretart | hey \sh | 11:21 |
| ajmitch | hi siretart | 11:21 |
| ajmitch | how are you? | 11:21 |
| siretart | huhu ajmitch | 11:21 |
| siretart | thanks, I'm at work | 11:21 |
| siretart | and you? | 11:21 |
| ajmitch | my condolences :) | 11:21 |
| ajmitch | I'm good thanks | 11:22 |
| siretart | :) | 11:22 |
| kelmo_lap | hi siretart , ajmitch | 11:22 |
| \sh | moins siretart ajmitch :) | 11:23 |
| siretart | hey kelmo_lap | 11:23 |
| === Yagisan is off to woolies. bbl | ||
| siretart | kelmo_lap: do you have time and energy to answer felix latest 'summary'? | 11:23 |
| kelmo_lap | siretart, neither really, currently my answer would not be very constructive | 11:24 |
| siretart | I'd better take a break from discussing with him. I might loose my self-control the 3rd time :/ | 11:24 |
| kelmo_lap | indeed | 11:24 |
| siretart | ok | 11:24 |
| kelmo_lap | i don't want to go there tonight . . . | 11:24 |
| siretart | I'll see if I can answer perhaps at the week end or so | 11:25 |
| kelmo_lap | he just repeats the same stuff over and over | 11:25 |
| kelmo_lap | bringing up good points here and there | 11:26 |
| kelmo_lap | adding a bit of crap and subjective opinion in the mix | 11:26 |
| siretart | yes | 11:27 |
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| Maxiii | www.naughty-xxx-porn-girls.com | 11:43 |
| jmg | www.piss-the-fuck-off-spammer.com | 11:44 |
| cbx33 | heheh | 11:45 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 11:49 |
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| zakame | hi Efts! | 11:56 |
| dholbach | hehe :-))) | 11:57 |
| dholbach | hi zakame | 11:57 |
| zakame | hi dholbach ! =) | 11:57 |
| zakame | is the archive hold for universe uploads still up? | 11:58 |
| dholbach | no, slomo just did an upload, so I'd rather think not | 11:58 |
| slomo_ | zakame: you could upload all the time... the uploaded sources just didn't went into the archive but were queued somewhere | 11:59 |
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| zakame | ah | 11:59 |
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| kelmo_lap | siretart, ok, i lied | 12:54 |
| kelmo_lap | siretart, i could not let that rant go unanswered ; ) | 12:54 |
| siretart | kelmo_lap: :) | 12:54 |
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| Yagisan | re | 01:41 |
| ajmitch | hi Yagisan | 01:41 |
| Yagisan | evening ajmitch | 01:43 |
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| Amaranth | E: alacarte: bad-version-number 0.9-0ubuntu1~testing | 02:44 |
| Amaranth | i thought that was allowed now | 02:44 |
| Amaranth | linda doesn't complain about it, lintian does | 02:44 |
| azeem | at least Debian's archive tools don't support it yet, dunno about Launchpad | 02:46 |
| Amaranth | it's used for backports | 02:46 |
| azeem | if it is in use already, lintian is probably outdated | 02:47 |
| azeem | maybe linda never had a check for that | 02:47 |
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| zul | heylo | 03:02 |
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| Kyral | hmm | 03:26 |
| Kyral | if I make a Kernel Source pack with the Beyond patchset....would I submit it to MOTU? | 03:26 |
| === Hobbsee pokes Kyral | ||
| Kyral | hmm? | 03:26 |
| Yagisan | Kyral: we can't | 03:26 |
| Kyral | say what? | 03:26 |
| Kyral | why not? | 03:26 |
| Yagisan | Kyral: I already asked about doing universer kernels | 03:26 |
| Kyral | meh | 03:27 |
| Kyral | thats one thing I like about Arch | 03:27 |
| Yagisan | Kyral: it was strongly discouraged by core | 03:27 |
| Kyral | they have patched Kernels in their repos.... | 03:27 |
| Kyral | and the Beyond kernel is very very nice | 03:27 |
| Yagisan | Kyral: because the users had issues with hoary (was that le last one with a universe kernel ?) | 03:28 |
| Kyral | I dunno | 03:28 |
| Yagisan | Kyral: I have my own patched kernels to. I wish I could integrate l-r-m with them though | 03:28 |
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| Kyral | LRM....jeez thats a waste of a package... | 03:29 |
| Kyral | I like what Arch does with respect to the NVidia drivers | 03:29 |
| Kyral | They don't compile them for every kernel | 03:29 |
| Yagisan | Kyral: IIRC you said, rebuilds at start if needed | 03:29 |
| Kyral | Yah | 03:29 |
| Kyral | quite effective if you ask me | 03:29 |
| Kyral | best part is that it works even if you custom compile | 03:30 |
| Yagisan | Kyral: I like that idea too, but I don't want gcc on my "secure" boxes | 03:30 |
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| Kyral | "Secure"? | 03:30 |
| MrFaber | hi all again :) | 03:30 |
| Kyral | You mean like servers? | 03:30 |
| Kyral | Ack! | 03:30 |
| Kyral | I have a meeting at 10, and I haven't gotten breakfast yet!! | 03:31 |
| MrFaber | When loop-aes-source gets fixed? | 03:31 |
| Yagisan | Kyral: servers, firewalls, hardened desktops | 03:31 |
| MrFaber | Dapper should has been release already without the new release termin and the bug is reported since a long, long time | 03:31 |
| Yagisan | MrFaber: why do you need that ? | 03:31 |
| MrFaber | Not this discussion again please :) | 03:32 |
| MrFaber | For encryption | 03:32 |
| Yagisan | MrFaber: IIRC it was a kernel patch wasn't it ? | 03:32 |
| Kyral | It allows use of the AES algorithm for encrypted loop devices | 03:32 |
| Kyral | or encrypted partions | 03:32 |
| MrFaber | I always need the Debian sid loop-aes-source package in dapper | 03:32 |
| MrFaber | Yagisan: it is a module | 03:32 |
| Kyral | I thought it was part of the Kernel.... | 03:32 |
| Yagisan | yes, but I use dmcrypt for that | 03:33 |
| MrFaber | Yagisan: and could be created with the module-assistant, at least in Breezy | 03:33 |
| Yagisan | MrFaber: I thought it was depreciated in favour of dmcrypt | 03:33 |
| Kyral | Its a module option...at least in 2.6.16 | 03:33 |
| Gunooby | Hi all | 03:33 |
| MrFaber | Yagisan: but the package is in Dapper universe | 03:33 |
| Kyral | zcat /proc/config.gz | grep AES | 03:33 |
| MrFaber | Yagisan: And I like it more then dm-crypt | 03:33 |
| Gunooby | I would like to test a latest upstream release package! | 03:34 |
| Kyral | anyway...lunch | 03:34 |
| Gunooby | Can some one tell me the procedure... | 03:34 |
| MrFaber | And the fix is easy if someone could upload the new minor version | 03:34 |
| Yagisan | MrFaber: yeah, we have a lot of patches in universe that we can't use | 03:34 |
| MrFaber | Or what is with packages like Krusader what wasn't updated after Breezy, but this isn't that problem :( | 03:35 |
| Yagisan | Gunooby: usually they have instructions. Make a system backup in case it goes horribly wrong. | 03:35 |
| MrFaber | I need my loop-aes and to use a debian sid package isn't that solution for a stable release | 03:35 |
| Yagisan | MrFaber: well, have you submittted an UVF exception request | 03:36 |
| MrFaber | a bug report is there | 03:36 |
| MrFaber | But I have no clue how | 03:36 |
| Gunooby | Yagisan: Tested on my PC! Would like to test it on others for deps etc | 03:36 |
| MrFaber | It is hard enough in launchpad to find a bug imho | 03:36 |
| Yagisan | MrFaber: I agree. | 03:37 |
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| MrFaber | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/loop-aes-source/+bug/30230 | 03:38 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 30230 in loop-aes-source "loop-aes module can't be created in Dapper Drake" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 03:38 |
| MrFaber | thats the bug | 03:38 |
| MrFaber | And I have spoken with the debian maintainer but he can't do anything since it works in newest releases | 03:39 |
| zul | MrFaber: I might have a look at it tonight, please add me to the bug. | 03:40 |
| Yagisan | MrFaber: here we go. UVF exception process https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/UVFStatus | 03:40 |
| MrFaber | zul: how? | 03:40 |
| MrFaber | thx | 03:40 |
| Yagisan | MrFaber: should be approved, as you said it fixes the bug (but, not being a MOTU, I can't guarantee that) | 03:41 |
| MrFaber | zul which mail? | 03:41 |
| MrFaber | zul "Subscribe someone else to the bug report"? | 03:41 |
| MrFaber | Yagisan: diffstat of the upstream tarballs don't know how to do it :) | 03:44 |
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| zul | MrFaber: zulcss@gmail.com | 03:45 |
| MrFaber | thx, I am going to add you | 03:46 |
| MrFaber | zul: no error so it should have worked but I see no result :) | 03:46 |
| zul | ok.. | 03:47 |
| G0SUB_ | whis are your favourite options for creating a source package with dpkg-buildpackage? | 03:49 |
| G0SUB_ | which | 03:49 |
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| Hobbsee | G0SUB_: dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot -kyourkeyhere | 03:52 |
| G0SUB_ | hmm, ok | 03:52 |
| Hobbsee | -S -sa is the bit needed for the sources | 03:52 |
| G0SUB_ | Hobbsee: but for some strange reasons, it's not generating the orig.tar.gz & the diff.gz | 03:53 |
| === StevenK likes pbuilder for this reason. | ||
| Hobbsee | G0SUB_: is the folder named sourcename-version? | 03:54 |
| G0SUB_ | yes | 03:54 |
| StevenK | It drops a _source.changes and related files in .. which I can upload right after testing. | 03:54 |
| Hobbsee | i thought you had to create the .orig.tar.gz yourself... | 03:54 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: that's true | 03:54 |
| G0SUB_ | Hobbsee: nope | 03:54 |
| === Hobbsee jumps on StevenK before she is jumped on | ||
| === Mithrandir tickles Hobbsee before he's poked in the ribs. | ||
| === Hobbsee pokes Mithrandir in the ribs doubly hard :P | ||
| Mithrandir | ouch | 03:55 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 03:55 |
| === StevenK pushes Hobbsee off. | ||
| === Hobbsee falls to the floor. meany | ||
| StevenK | Well, you didn't have to jump on me elbows first. | 03:56 |
| Yagisan | MrFaber: after you make the patch, run diffstat patch | 04:01 |
| MrFaber | Yagisan: I haven't run any patch I just have used debian sid package | 04:01 |
| MrFaber | Yagisan: I am happy that I can create debian packages from sources but that is all :) | 04:02 |
| Yagisan | MrFaber: you need to debdiff the ubuntu & debian packages | 04:02 |
| MrFaber | And that not always | 04:02 |
| MrFaber | ok, I am going to try it | 04:02 |
| === Yagisan thinks timidity needs a better patchset | ||
| MrFaber | Yagisan: is there any howto for that | 04:05 |
| MrFaber | no debdiff result in wiki.ubuntu.com | 04:05 |
| MrFaber | I have it an run it but gives me no real interesting result :) | 04:05 |
| Yagisan | MrFaber: I'd run it like this. debdiff oldfoo.dsc newfoo.dsc > newfoo.debdiff && diffstat newfoo.debdiff > newfoo.diffstat | 04:09 |
| MrFaber | how I got this dsc file :) | 04:10 |
| Yagisan | MrFaber: apt-get source foo | 04:11 |
| MrFaber | ah ok | 04:11 |
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| zul | MrFaber: which bug is this again? | 04:23 |
| zul | for the loop-aes | 04:23 |
| MrFaber | zul yes | 04:27 |
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| Gloubiboulga | could anyone review gnome-translate: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2266 ? | 04:35 |
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| Gloubiboulga | ++ | 05:04 |
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| ivoks | dholbach: lol, you nailed brltty :) | 05:29 |
| dholbach | nailed? :) | 05:29 |
| ivoks | dholbach: but, you have a bug | 05:29 |
| ivoks | it will not stop allready running brltty | 05:30 |
| dholbach | i had to be quick about it... so it didn't delay beta release | 05:30 |
| ivoks | hehe | 05:30 |
| dholbach | I can't start killing random processes in a postinst :) | 05:30 |
| ivoks | i have a diff on init.d/brltty, if you are interested :) | 05:30 |
| dholbach | I'm not sure we'll add that - I'd rather prefer to fix it than kill it/stop it | 05:31 |
| ivoks | your upload obsolets my also_quick_and_dirty_fix | 05:31 |
| dholbach | this was just a quick fix for beta, ... as I said | 05:31 |
| ivoks | i had exit 0 in start function :) | 05:31 |
| dholbach | there's a fix in Debian to make it use udev | 05:31 |
| ivoks | that's great | 05:31 |
| dholbach | which might help too | 05:31 |
| dholbach | so it doesn't try to detect madly (that's where it lost memory on the way) | 05:31 |
| dholbach | at least that's as much as I gathered from the discussions | 05:32 |
| ivoks | anyway... nice that brltty doesn't start by default | 05:33 |
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| ivoks | it's not a program 99% of ubuntu users need, but i agree we have to make it work for other 1% | 05:34 |
| dholbach | yeah | 05:36 |
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| ivoks | ok, stop it.. | 05:36 |
| ivoks | what will my g/f say :) | 05:36 |
| joelbryan | hello, what program is that? ivoks | 05:36 |
| ivoks | joelbryan: brltty | 05:36 |
| ivoks | time to go home, finally | 05:37 |
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| ivoks | dholbach: do you have any info will now, after RC, archive managers sync some packages from debian? | 05:37 |
| ivoks | dholbach: i would like to have libetpan asap, since i have to rebuild 2 apps with it | 05:37 |
| joelbryan | how do I make a package?, I'm trying to create a deb for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport | 05:37 |
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| dholbach | ivoks: you subscribed them to the bugs? | 05:38 |
| ivoks | yes | 05:38 |
| ivoks | but i saw i'm not the only one pending... | 05:38 |
| ivoks | i guess they didn't want to change anything beefore RC | 05:38 |
| ivoks | joelbryan: i would love to help you, but i'm on the edge... didn't eat anything today, but smoked half a pack of cigaretts :/ | 05:39 |
| ivoks | so, i'll leave now :) | 05:40 |
| joelbryan | hehe, me too, 1/2 red | 05:40 |
| ivoks | bye all | 05:40 |
| joelbryan | thanks ivoks :-) | 05:40 |
| sivang | joelbryan: is it a python app? | 05:41 |
| sivang | joelbryan: do you try to push it into dapper btw? | 05:41 |
| joelbryan | sivang: yes, mark changed it's priority to high | 05:42 |
| joelbryan | sivang: nope, it's C and perl | 05:42 |
| sivang | joelbryan: ah, I see. does it fire up xchat or something at the right channel? | 05:43 |
| joelbryan | sivang: it use gaim's irc | 05:43 |
| sivang | joelbryan: nice. already stable and ready for main then? | 05:44 |
| sivang | (I might try o help you pull up a package, cdbs can be much help if you used standrad gnu autofoo tools) | 05:44 |
| joelbryan | yep, but still have to find the right regular expression on capturing NOTICE sent by nickserv | 05:44 |
| joelbryan | checking nick's availability only works when a user is currently using the nick. | 05:45 |
| joelbryan | I need that ultimate regex to solve the problem. | 05:45 |
| sivang | I'd say you need to query freenode's nick somehow | 05:46 |
| sivang | rather | 05:46 |
| sivang | since regex will be of no help if the user is not logged in under the nick | 05:46 |
| sivang | at least, for registered uses, that is | 05:46 |
| joelbryan | sivang: I use standard autotools, everything is basic, including perl's modules, which only have IO::Socket, not Net::IRC | 05:47 |
| sivang | joelbryan: those are standard perl modules? | 05:47 |
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| joelbryan | sivang: yes, currently it only catch 320, which is generated if a user is only online. | 05:48 |
| joelbryan | else if not, it would print that the nick is available | 05:49 |
| joelbryan | sivang: the work would be 50% more easier if Net::IRC is included. | 05:49 |
| joelbryan | Net::IRC isn't standard in perl. | 05:49 |
| joelbryan | it uses bare IO::Socket, and connets through tcp, which is very hackish | 05:51 |
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| sivang | joelbryan: to query freenode's db? | 05:56 |
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| joelbryan | sivang: how can you make a certain universe package to be included in main. say example, libnet-irc-perl | 05:56 |
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| joelbryan | sivang: yes, I use IO::Socket, to query freenode, whew! and it's very low level!! | 05:59 |
| sivang | joelbryan: well, I'm afraid it's too late now, as we're already an UVF/FF for ages. but you could have this included in universe for wide testing and bug fixing and try to push it into dapper+1. I am also working on a goal, that will not get included into main at this stage. (HomeUserBackup) | 06:01 |
| sivang | joelbryan: however, it might be worthwhile to ask for a big expection, if this is soemthign very small, very stable and easy to fix if things go rough. dunno | 06:01 |
| joelbryan | sivang: it's really easy to fix, with the correct regex. | 06:02 |
| sivang | joelbryan: try to ask on u-devel, AFAICT this is the right place to ask about this. | 06:04 |
| sivang | joelbryan: I'll ping you when I'll have time to help, possibly tomorrow | 06:04 |
| joelbryan | thanks | 06:04 |
| sivang | np :) | 06:04 |
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| joelbryan | Hello Seveas! | 06:08 |
| Seveas | hi joelbryan | 06:09 |
| joelbryan | Seveas: I made some changes in ULCS, | 06:10 |
| Seveas | ah | 06:10 |
| Seveas | joelbryan, btw: I told sabdfl about ulcs and he thinks it's a killer feature for edgy | 06:10 |
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| joelbryan | Seveas: wow, he emailed me | 06:11 |
| joelbryan | Seveas: I got an automated registration system | 06:11 |
| Seveas | cool | 06:12 |
| hmrocha | hello | 06:12 |
| Seveas | I'll have a look at the code soon | 06:12 |
| hmrocha | how is responsible for packaging the nfs utilities? | 06:12 |
| hmrocha | i think they have a problem | 06:12 |
| hmrocha | i'm using 5.10 and i get "nfs warning: mount version older than kernel" | 06:12 |
| hmrocha | i think this shouldn't happen | 06:13 |
| Seveas | hmrocha, make sure your mount, nfs-client and nfs-kernel-server are up to date | 06:13 |
| hmrocha | i'm not using nfs-kernel-server because the server is a centos 4.3 | 06:13 |
| hmrocha | 5.10 is only the client | 06:13 |
| hmrocha | and i'm using autofs | 06:14 |
| hmrocha | and i have all packages updated | 06:14 |
| joelbryan | Seveas: btw, when did you told sabdfl about it? | 06:14 |
| Seveas | then it's not unusual to get this, if nothing is failing you can ignore it | 06:14 |
| Seveas | joelbryan, CC meeting 2 weeks ago | 06:14 |
| hmrocha | but something is failing, and i don't know if it's the ubuntu client or the centos server | 06:15 |
| hmrocha | i get "nfs: server foobar not responding, still trying", on the client | 06:15 |
| hmrocha | but it appears that everything is working perfectly on the server | 06:16 |
| spacey | hmrocha: check if the client tries to mount the right server address/path | 06:25 |
| hmrocha | yes it does | 06:26 |
| spacey | i had the same problem today | 06:26 |
| hmrocha | it mounts and it works, but its very, very very slow | 06:26 |
| spacey | which i solved by making the client mount nfs with tcp instead of udp | 06:26 |
| spacey | hmrocha: portmap problem? | 06:26 |
| spacey | in our case it didn't work at all | 06:27 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 06:29 |
| hmrocha | spacey: i hope not, it's running, but i'll try restarting it | 06:29 |
| spacey | hmrocha: in my case we use ltsp 4.1 not ubuntu ltsp btw | 06:30 |
| hmrocha | ltsp? | 06:31 |
| hmrocha | what's that? | 06:31 |
| spacey | ah | 06:31 |
| spacey | nevermind ;p | 06:31 |
| spacey | thin client | 06:31 |
| bddebian | Linux Terminal Server Project iirc | 06:31 |
| spacey | which mounts root nfs file system | 06:31 |
| spacey | ;p | 06:31 |
| hmrocha | that's not what we use here | 06:31 |
| spacey | ah yeah i misunderstood | 06:31 |
| spacey | im to much into thin clientness ;p | 06:31 |
| spacey | atm :) | 06:31 |
| hmrocha | we use a proprietary system to upload linux/windows to the students computers | 06:31 |
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| hmrocha | a student turns on a computer and is asked if he wants linux/windows | 06:32 |
| hmrocha | he chooses ubuntu linux and then the linux partition's content is compared to the cache partition | 06:33 |
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| hmrocha | the cache partition uses a proprietary filesystem that used unpartitioned disk space | 06:33 |
| hmrocha | if the content is the same, it just boots | 06:33 |
| hmrocha | if it isn't it synchronizes the content of the cache partition with the linux partition and then boots | 06:34 |
| hmrocha | the home partition of the ubuntu linux that is uploaded to the computer is obviously nfs mounted so that the students can have theirs files in all computers they logon | 06:34 |
| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 06:35 |
| hmrocha | it's something more advanced than thin clients | 06:35 |
| ogra | its thick client network booting with a networked grub ;) | 06:35 |
| hmrocha | ogra: yes, something like that but much more advanced :D | 06:36 |
| ogra | i was pondering to add a network grub setup to our ltsp | 06:36 |
| hmrocha | we don't use network grub | 06:36 |
| ogra | it does the same just not with gui like the proprietary solutions i know | 06:36 |
| hmrocha | neither thin clients, since all processing is done in the clients | 06:36 |
| ogra | yes, thats a so called thick client ;) | 06:36 |
| LaserJock | hi bddebian | 06:37 |
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| webwolf_27 | not much going on here | 07:51 |
| dholbach | bye guys - happy ubuntu beta partying! | 07:51 |
| jpatrick | where's that beer? | 07:53 |
| dholbach | Europe/Berlin :) | 07:56 |
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| sladen | Europe/Barcelona anyone? | 08:00 |
| lucas | Europe/France/Grenoble anyone ? :-) | 08:00 |
| jpatrick | sladen: me | 08:01 |
| LaserJock | hmm, how about Reno, NV, USA? | 08:01 |
| hub | anything in Ottawa? | 08:02 |
| zul | dont think so | 08:03 |
| LaserJock | yeah, North America needs some more coverage, these Europeans get to have all the fun ;-) | 08:04 |
| ogra | come over :) | 08:05 |
| LaserJock | hmm, raphink almost had me convinced to go over there, but I just can't afford it | 08:05 |
| jpatrick | LaserJock: I can't afford anything | 08:07 |
| LaserJock | I'd like to go to one of the dev conferences too, but the chances of it coming somewhere close are pretty slim | 08:08 |
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| zul | montreal was pretty close to me at least ;) | 08:12 |
| LaserJock | it was on the same continent at least for me | 08:14 |
| LaserJock | but I didn't make it | 08:14 |
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| jpatrick | sladen: still around? | 08:40 |
| hub | zul: you went to UBZ? | 08:40 |
| jpatrick | oh, too late | 08:40 |
| webwolf_27 | nuernberg germany | 08:43 |
| zul | hub: yep...just for the first day though i had tickets to the sens game the next day | 08:50 |
| hub | zul: we probably met then. I was there | 08:50 |
| hub | I was in Mtl at that time | 08:50 |
| zul | hub: could be...i might not remember because I met alot of people ;) | 08:51 |
| hub | yeah | 08:51 |
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| hyakuhei | wb TheMuso | 09:07 |
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| cbx33 | i i know a bug isnt a bug can someone close the bug report? | 10:58 |
| carthik | cbx33, which one? | 10:58 |
| cbx33 | 23647 | 10:59 |
| carthik | cbx33, you can close it too, click on the link that is the package description in the bug report... | 10:59 |
| cbx33 | ok | 10:59 |
| cbx33 | change to rejected? | 10:59 |
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| FunnyLookinHat | When I installed network-manager-gnome and it's dependencies and rebooted with the new ubuntu beta, it gave me an error when I logged in saying network-manager was missing necesary resources or something like that. this a known bug? | 10:59 |
| cbx33 | carthik, there's no closed....do i choose rejected? | 11:00 |
| carthik | cbx33, yes, but maybe the reporter thinks it is a bug that needs fixing. just leave a message asking the reporter to reopen it stating the case if required. | 11:01 |
| FunnyLookinHat | No ideas? | 11:14 |
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