=== raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Elliotjhug [n=Elliotjh@82.152.199.201] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Elliotjhug [n=Elliotjh@82.152.199.201] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Elliotjhug [n=Elliotjh@82.152.199.201] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun rebuilds his pbuilders for the (N+1)th time due to usb mass storage+suspend interaction === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === at1as [n=at1as@24-247-15-243.static.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dooglus [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-123-245.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:25] hi tritium :) === Xk2c [n=Xk2c@dslb-088-072-207-093.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:26] hi ajmitch :) [01:27] crimsun: where do you keep your pbuilder? on a usb stick or drive? [01:27] usb hd [01:27] great, the discussions about edgy have hit various news sites [01:27] including slashdot [01:27] this x41 lacks sufficient hd space for pbuilders [01:27] really? [01:28] how much diskspace does it have? [01:28] 36G, 29G of which is NTFS [01:29] ah, you have to use windows a bit on there? [01:29] yeah [01:30] how unfortunate [01:30] quite === ajmitch is lucky to have a 100GB drive in the laptop [01:31] there's 8GB unallocated with LVM, I think I might use that for sbuild+schroot [01:31] crimsun: perhaps there's a bright side. is it 7200 rpm? [01:31] tritium: no, but there's an even brighter side than its lower rpm, the fact that it's a Canonical machine [01:32] can't really complain about hardware that's loaned/granted to me [01:32] crimsun: my same philosophy ;) === jinty [n=jinty@12.Red-83-58-173.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dooglus_ [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:49] great, vlc doesn't crash when I run it through valgrind. This is not going to be a fun night. === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:56] crimsun: maybe i could make your day ;) [01:56] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/vtk/+bug/29821/+index [01:56] Malone bug 29821 in vtk "merge new debian version" [Normal,Fix released] [01:56] could please have look at it === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.211.8] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:12] Xk2c: I don't think it downgraded [02:13] Then i do not understand [02:14] Version: 4.4.2-8ubuntu1 > Version: 4.4.2-6ubuntu2 [02:14] Xk2c: well, it looks like we need to merge a new Debian version [02:14] Xk2c: the current dapper version looks like -8ubuntu1 to me [02:15] doh [02:15] sorry [02:15] my fault [02:15] i checked in the wrong terminal [02:16] heh, that happens [02:16] ;) [02:19] but you realize you shouldn't be using breezy anyway, we have to get going on edgy pretty soon ;-) === |ZuZuu| [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-89-215.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:24] *lol* [02:24] i upgarded my backupsystem yesterday to dapper [02:25] LaserJock: do have something for a bloody beginner to get his handy dirty? [02:26] i check the bug reports but they seem a bit high level [02:27] Xk2c: how do you mean? you don't know how to fix bugs? [02:27] i do not know how to patch and build something yes [02:28] heh, well welcome to the club ;-) [02:28] *lol* [02:28] :D [02:28] but therefor dapper is quite good [02:28] i have to say [02:43] cu === Xk2c [n=Xk2c@dslb-088-072-207-093.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["sudo] === Eirias [n=eirias@c-24-118-15-166.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Eirias [n=eirias@c-24-118-15-166.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === womble [n=mpalmer@106.135.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@12.Red-83-58-173.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === wasabi__ [n=wasabi@c-67-166-206-241.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:33] morning all [03:34] hi Hobbsee === tritium_ [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch__ [n=ajmitch@port161-86.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch_1 [n=ajmitch@port169-104.ubs.maxnet.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch_1 [n=ajmitch@port169-104.ubs.maxnet.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:24] sigh [04:24] severe phone line issues today [04:24] hi ajmitch_1 [04:24] so it seems [04:25] I think it's related to the roadworks outside [04:25] ajmitch_1: 4 of you...that's pretty good though...can you type from 4 at once? [04:25] very noticeable when talking to someone [04:25] sadly not [04:27] hopefully it'll stay stable for 5 minutes or so [04:27] if I can be so lucky :) === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:30] hehe [04:38] hey motus [04:39] hi === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:39] hi Toadstool [04:39] hi Hobbsee and ajmitch [04:42] hum... I've got only 3 hours left to sleep... [04:42] good night :) === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:53] hey guys and Hobbsee :P [04:53] heya Kyral [04:54] The Edgy Eft will be most fun :D [04:54] hehe [04:54] Kyral: is that what it's really called? [04:54] Yah [04:55] it should have been edgy elephant [04:55] oh jmg === Hobbsee thinks eft=eftpos [04:55] jmg: yeah, that'd be fun :P [04:55] wanna work with me on Xen for Edgy? [04:55] Kyral: i thought it was me and hunger [04:55] but sure [04:55] :) [04:56] jmg, at my school, Xen is our specialty [04:56] xen is my speciality [04:56] im working on xenifying the livecds :) [04:56] Clarkson University [04:56] Mean anything to you :P [04:57] oh you guys had the person that was supposed to do the soc stuff [04:57] but then he dissapeared :p === Kyral falls down [04:57] and made a big announcement and even created xen.cosi.clarkson.edu [04:57] I'm gonna talk to the guy responsible for JXenophilla [04:57] which promptly went offline [04:57] Uhh, we have had server troubles [04:57] xenophilia is crap [04:57] we lost a RAID last week [04:58] You name another GUI for Xen [04:58] sounds like you need a new it team [04:58] err [04:58] LVM Volume [04:58] xe [04:58] meh [04:59] ive registered xenubuntu.com and .org [05:03] hi Hobbsee, how's the finger? [05:03] hey LaserJock - it looks like it's been grated, but it stopped bleeding, which is good :D [05:03] means i can type again! [05:04] good, you sure were having problems yesterday [05:04] LaserJock: a nice polite way of putting it :) [05:04] ajmitch: I'm alway polite ;-) [05:04] wtf happened? === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-19-190-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === magnon [n=co@c-a368e353.05-27-6f736c2.cust.bredband.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:08] Kyral: Hobbsee cut her finger and so had a bandaid on and couldn't type very well [05:08] LaserJock: LOL! === Kyral kisses Hobbsee's finger :P === Hobbsee thwacks Kyral :P [05:08] ow! [05:08] at least I didn't kiss you passionately [05:09] the worst of the spelling errors i took out, you know... [05:09] urgh...if you did.....you would not be very happy afterwards... [05:09] Hammerspace? [05:09] yikes, cool it down kids [05:09] ;-) [05:09] KID?! [05:09] I'm 20 years old thank you! [05:09] :P [05:09] Kyral: yes, exactly. [05:10] G'day all [05:10] Kyral: yes. you are a kid. you're under the age of adulthood... [05:10] I'm over 18.... [05:10] hi Yagisan [05:10] thought over there it was 21 [05:10] hi Yagisan [05:10] No === Hobbsee will be able to drink before Kyral can - now that does seem weird! [05:10] 21 is when you can DRINK [05:10] Hobbsee: 18 in AUs, 21 in Japan TTBOMK [05:10] ah, well there you go [05:10] 18 you can do everything else [05:10] seems stupid to me [05:10] and 16 if you want to get laid [05:11] Yagisan: depends on the state [05:11] yah [05:11] or if you are gay [05:11] its like 14 in some states [05:11] and the age difference between the involved people [05:11] yeah. just a general guideline === Yagisan had interesting experience at the doctor === Hobbsee blocks her ears :P [05:12] Walked into a packed waiting room [05:12] nurse asked how I was === Hobbsee blocks her eyes as well, which is what she first tried to type [05:13] I thought it was a dumb question. I don't go unless I'm sick [05:13] so I said "Infectious" [05:13] hah [05:13] I got a seat and was seen *very* quickly [05:13] Yagisan: what'd you tell her? that you were about to die on the nice clean floor or something, and force her to clean it all up? [05:13] hehe! [05:13] how long did it take the waiting room to clear? [05:13] no one would sit near me :( [05:14] such a shame [05:14] how can I get better if I don't give it to someone else [05:15] oh well. can I get a NTSC user to confirm that telesync is broken in Bug #39819 [05:15] Malone bug 39819 in avidemux "UVF exception request: avidemux (2.1.1 -> 2.1.2)" [Normal,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/39819 [05:16] My NTSC dvd is stuffed, so I can't confirm it [05:21] hmm, is 200 Watts too little for a microATX board with 2 hard drive, a graphics card, and 2 cd drives? === ajmitch__ [n=ajmitch@port161-15.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch__ [n=ajmitch@203.89.167.79] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:36] ooh. my exchange gets adsl 2+ next month. [05:36] Yagisan: yay! [05:36] is adsl 2 faster than cable? === Hobbsee always seems to get confused with the speeds [05:36] Hobbsee: 24000/1000 === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:37] Hobbsee: thats' "2+" with tpg === Hobbsee wonders how fast cable is... [05:37] so yaeh, looks faster [05:37] ah yep [05:37] nice === ajmitch__ [n=ajmitch@port163-83.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch__ is giving up on this, I think [05:40] anyone here use an ide to code & debug ? Any suggestions ? [05:40] vim [05:40] only emacs, sorry [05:40] or emacs [05:40] depends on my mood [05:40] kate :P [05:40] Yagisan: what language? [05:41] C, C++, Makefiles [05:42] sometime x86/amd64 asm === Hobbsee likes kate, with the terminal at the bottom :P [05:42] Yagisan: would eclipse work? === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:43] Hobbsee: that is one of my favorite features of KDE [05:43] :P [05:44] LaserJock: I don't know. I'll check it out [05:45] I only know FORTRAN, a little bit of C, and Python so I'm not much help [05:45] Hobbsee: I was using just a text editor, but well, it doesn't catch that many mistakes [05:45] Yagisan: that is true. dont they get caught when you compile though? [05:45] Hobbsee, I use yaKuake instead of the Kate terminal, for some reason [05:46] Hobbsee: some yes. usually after 10-15 minutes of building though. [05:46] seth|away: mmm ok [05:46] Yagisan: hehe, good point [05:48] LaserJock: eclipse has a lot of deps, doesn't it. === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:49] Yagisan: it could. I don't actually use it [05:50] I usually use vim or IDLE for python (sometimes SPE too) [05:51] sweet, I just pulled a MB === Yagisan fires off another build while waiting for eclipse to d/l === ajmitch__ [n=ajmitch@port162-143.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:58] cool. GCC can tell you what functions it is actually building. === Hobbsee pokes ajmitch__ [05:59] hi [06:00] yes, I'm here for a few more seconds [06:00] hehe === ajmitch__ hears another loud crackle [06:00] ajmitch__: it sounds like you should go into the uni, with a decent connection, and do no uni work :P === LaserJock thinks it must be the beginning of some sort of aussie invasion. Disruption of communications ;-) [06:03] LaserJock: exactly. just you wait.. [06:04] well, I feel pretty safe here in the US but I'm sure it is coming ;-) [06:04] yes. just think of all those lamb chops waiting for us over there. [06:04] yikes [06:04] hehe [06:05] that's a good point [06:05] Yagisan: so start the missiles? === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@port161-59.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:06] Hobbsee: just as soon as we have enough mint sauce [06:06] heh [06:06] wb ajmitch [06:06] Yagisan: you think the sheep could replace the kangaroos here, as a form of transport? [06:07] Hobbsee: might be difficult. They do taste good, so it's hard to resist the urge to eat them [06:08] Yagisan: yes, but there are so many of htem... [06:08] wait, who has all the sheep? [06:08] LaserJock: the land of new zealand... [06:08] ah, I thought it was .au [06:08] well, one could argue that it's effectively part of au :P [06:09] .au has more sheep :P [06:09] going into NZ - there are 2 gates, for customs: 1: the au + nz gate, 2: the rest of the world [06:09] ajmitch. but not per person ;) [06:09] hehe === ajmitch thinks that telecom would have more success with IP over carrier pigeon than DSL here [06:09] LOL! [06:09] go carrier pigeons! [06:10] I'd sure it'd be more reliable [06:10] hmm, I used to raise sheep. I wasn't terribly fond of them. === tritium_ contemplates channel coding for carrier pidgeon physical layer [06:10] how about using swallows in the place of carrier pidgeons? [06:10] Hobbsee: european or african? [06:11] lol [06:11] hehe [06:11] glad someone picked up the reference :P [06:11] and are they carrying cocanuts [06:11] ajmitch: NI! [06:11] you'd get diversity gain by using multiple types of birds ;) [06:11] Nif! [06:11] NIF! [06:11] NIF!!! [06:11] no, ni! [06:11] no its NIF! === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu === EvilHobbsee DEMANDS a shrubbery! [06:11] Burn Her! [06:12] she's a witch! [06:12] :P [06:12] she turned me into a newt, and edgy eft in fact ;-) [06:12] LaserJock: better that than what happened to the black knight you know... [06:13] "it's only a flesh wound" [06:13] I seriously saw some guy doing the Horse thing yesterday [06:13] come back here [06:13] I'll bite your legs off [06:14] hehe === Hobbsee tells the killer rabbit to go after Kyral [06:14] Not gonna happen === LaserJock brings out the Holy Hand Grenade === Kyral morphs into Mega Man X's Shadow Armor [06:14] hehe [06:15] now who can quote the holy scriptures for that? [06:15] all of it === Kyral slashes the bunny in half === Hobbsee watches as the bunny remains savage Kyral === Kyral leaps backward [06:16] and the number of the counting shall be three [06:16] no more, no less [06:16] 5 is right out === Kyral attacks with the Shurikan Buster === Hobbsee used various parts of monty python as her msn screen name, for a while [06:17] dang it Hobbsee, now I'm going to go have to watch it or do some Python coding or something [06:17] hehe! [06:17] some Monty Python coding! [06:17] ooh yeah! [06:17] that'd be fun [06:17] yeah, the docs have little references and quotes [06:18] hehe [06:18] i believe they're known as easter eggs, so why not? [06:18] Create a variable named "Holy_Hand_Grenade_Of_Antitoch" [06:18] hehe! === Hobbsee considers doing that for her computer assignment :P [06:18] wonder if i'd get marked down for it... [06:18] if it EVER is equal to 3, exit :P [06:19] I think they should have a ferocous man eating rabitt for an icon instead of the stupid snakes ;-) [06:19] Kyral: hehe! === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:21] hello [06:21] DUCK! [06:21] hi Gloubiboulga === Kyral hits the ground as the HHGOA goes off [06:22] wow. eclipise is slow to load === Hobbsee demands a shrubbery from Gloubiboulga [06:22] NIF!!! [06:22] ni! [06:22] it! === Hobbsee gasps, and runs away! [06:22] it! it! it! === Gloubiboulga looks in his dictionary what is a shrubbery :) [06:22] IT! IT! IT!!! === Hobbsee throws large animals down onto Kyral, off the top of her castle === Hobbsee watches a large cow go flying === Kyral dodges [06:23] moooooo === Kyral charges and lets fly with the Shurikan Buster [06:23] ok, ok there must be work that we need to be doing === Hobbsee throws another cow at LaserJock - shh! === Kyral leaps and turns it into steak with his Sabre [06:24] LaserJock: yes, the channel has gone downhill somewhat [06:24] heh [06:24] all right, who started the MP talk? they should be told off... [06:25] I think you did [06:25] oh drat, that was me! [06:25] okay, they shouldnt be told off then :P === Kyral picks up Hobbsee and throws her into #gentoo [06:25] argh! === Hobbsee bounces around [06:26] not #gentoo! [06:26] that's just harsh [06:26] simple solution, just burn her [06:27] she's a witch! === Kyral deactivates Shadow Armor and switches to a flame weapon [06:27] Someone called for fire? [06:28] yes, in the fireplace please [06:28] back to coding for me [06:28] g'night peoples [06:28] night seth|lappy === Kyral charges and lets fly the Fire Wave === Yagisan wanders in, warms his lunch, then wanders back out again [06:34] Hobbsee: used kdevelop ? [06:35] Yagisan: a couple of times [06:35] not a lot === jmg [n=jmg@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:38] hi all [06:38] hi Unfrgiven === jabra_ [n=jabra@polish.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:38] i was thinking today... we really need a good GUI svn client for linux [06:38] like rapidsvn? [06:38] something like tortoiseSVN for Natulius would be great [06:39] ajmitch: i currently use rapidsvn but its not even close to as good as tortoise [06:39] Unfrgiven: dude, good *BZR* client. [06:39] agreed, Unfrgiven [06:39] lifeless: definitely needed [06:39] lifeless: well svn is more widely used in most open source projects than bzr [06:40] perhaps we could write a nautlius plugin that abstracts the underlying vcs system? [06:40] I vote for both svn and bzr GUIs, although I'm not sure what I'd do with them [06:41] Unfrgiven: I tried all that we have for ubuntu. I went back to the command line. [06:41] has anyone here used tortoisesvn? [06:41] yes === ajmitch has [06:42] Yagisan: yeah and IMO, CLI is not great when dealing with lotsa files [06:42] cause I couldn't figure out how to use svn from CLI in windows ;-) [06:42] harden up and use cli [06:42] tortoise sux [06:42] There is a CLI in Winblows? [06:42] yes [06:42] cli subversion client [06:42] jmg: yeah nice constructive argument there [06:42] Unfrgiven: if you ever run wininternals you'll see why tortoise blows [06:43] sysinternals* [06:43] jmg: well i havent. what i like about tortoise is the functionality [06:43] every time you open a file, or browse to a folder, or do anything, it tries to open a .svn directory [06:43] LaserJock: did you know Amazon.com sells Ph.D. theses? I just found mine for $55 :( [06:43] this applies to every single operation [06:43] tritium_: holy cow, really? [06:43] yeah [06:43] jmg: so? [06:43] like loading dlls [06:43] LaserJock: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EWB4YU/103-6409456-1700623?v=glance&n=551440 [06:44] Unfrgiven: so thats fscking retarded [06:44] as for svn clients [06:44] use kde [06:44] tritium_: cool [06:44] tritium_: and you'd get nothing, I guess? [06:44] LaserJock: I better get any royalties for that being sold... [06:44] ajmitch: I'm supposed to [06:44] jmg: ok so thats poor implementation. but what does a user care about the implementation? if the application is user friendly and functionally rich, thats good enough for most people. [06:45] jmg: "use kde" - another constuctive argument [06:45] Unfrgiven: the user doesnt use svn. the developer does [06:45] LaserJock_away: not so sure it's cool [06:45] Unfrgiven: kde has nice svn integration to konqueror through kioslaves [06:45] a developer that uses tortise, is a tortoise user [06:46] tritium: buy a copy and see if you get any royalties [06:46] Unfrgiven: the user cares when it slows wintendo down to a crawl [06:46] jmg: it's not worth the money ;) [06:47] tritium: well, you could buy it from amazon and then sue them for not paying royalties [06:47] heh === ajmitch__ [n=ajmitch@port164-137.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sophie^ [n=student@210.5.70.229] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dewd [n=dewd@201.29.127.220] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:40] ni! === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:03] er...hello? [08:04] er...hi [08:04] goody, thought the connection had dropped out === wooster1168 [n=josh@24.115.218.54.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-19-190-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan is screwed :( [08:38] Yagisan: how so? [08:38] ajmitch: I need to find external emplyment fast [08:39] ah, business just not going? [08:40] ajmitch: it has been very slow since wife's injury, and I've just had something unexpected come up thats going to cost me more money then I have [08:40] :( [08:40] I hope you can find something fast then [08:41] ajmitch: me too. === Yagisan is looking for his old resume === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@mail.trinsite.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:55] hi freeflying === Yagisan wishes he had a mute button for his wife [08:56] cbx33: hey [08:56] Yagisan: :p [08:56] she bugging you? === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:09] how would one go about manualy testing a man page === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B02AE.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:17] good morning [09:17] dholbach: hey [09:17] hey Unfrgiven [09:18] Unfrgiven: does your nick come from a metallica song? [09:18] highvoltage: yeah! does yours from a linkin park song? :) [09:19] dholbach: how u doin [09:19] Unfrgiven: yes, in fact. from the reanimation CD. [09:20] highvoltage: actually high voltage was written before hybrid theory and just remixed on reanimation [09:20] Unfrgiven: waking up, but otherwise fine, will do a bunch of CD test installs today [09:20] Unfrgiven: i was listening to the song over and over so that i could sing all the lyrics word for word. and my father walked in and said "You're starting to look like a highvoltage". that was about the same time i signed up for an isp service, and had to enter a name for my e-mail address, so i thought 'highvoltage' would be a logical choice [09:20] dholbach: cool [09:20] Unfrgiven: yes, i heard the original highvoltage (which I like more) after i chose the nick [09:20] Unfrgiven: then there's also the version on the DVD, which is quite cool [09:20] highvoltage: in my case Unforgiven is my favourite metallica song :) [09:21] highvoltage: but my then irc client had a character limit.. so I dropped the 'o' [09:21] aaah [09:21] cbx33: she's upset with me. her parents are ill, and we don't have the money for her to see them [09:22] Yagisan: oh dear. that sux man, i hope things work out for you [09:22] I neglected my business to look after her, when she was injured, and as a result we are very low on cash [09:23] so I need to a) get more customers, and b) pick up a second job === Yagisan wishes apt-get install bourbon worked right now === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-099-120.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@d044176.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kelmo_lap [n=kel@madwifi/support/kelmo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:10] mm. kdevelop looks nice === ivoks [n=ivoks@wall2.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:13] cool. it finds all the fixmes === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch returns [10:50] wb ajmitch! [10:51] Yagisan: whats your businesS? [10:51] thanks === jinty [n=jinty@12.Red-83-58-173.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh [n=shermann@ubuntu/member/backslash-sh] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:59] <\sh> moins [10:59] moinmoins [11:00] morning \sh [11:03] hi \sh [11:12] jmg: http://eyagi.bpa.nu/eyagi === dolson [n=dana@d235-185-252.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === womble [n=mpalmer@eth359.nsw.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:21] hey \sh [11:21] hi siretart [11:21] how are you? [11:21] huhu ajmitch [11:21] thanks, I'm at work [11:21] and you? [11:21] my condolences :) [11:22] I'm good thanks [11:22] :) [11:22] hi siretart , ajmitch [11:23] <\sh> moins siretart ajmitch :) [11:23] hey kelmo_lap === Yagisan is off to woolies. bbl [11:23] kelmo_lap: do you have time and energy to answer felix latest 'summary'? [11:24] siretart, neither really, currently my answer would not be very constructive [11:24] I'd better take a break from discussing with him. I might loose my self-control the 3rd time :/ [11:24] indeed [11:24] ok [11:24] i don't want to go there tonight . . . [11:25] I'll see if I can answer perhaps at the week end or so [11:25] he just repeats the same stuff over and over [11:26] bringing up good points here and there [11:26] adding a bit of crap and subjective opinion in the mix [11:27] yes === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Maxiii [n=on@202.177.231.10] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:43] www.naughty-xxx-porn-girls.com [11:44] www.piss-the-fuck-off-spammer.com [11:45] heheh [11:49] hehe === kasina [n=kasina@196.200.37.114] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:56] hi Efts! [11:57] hehe :-))) [11:57] hi zakame [11:57] hi dholbach ! =) [11:58] is the archive hold for universe uploads still up? [11:58] no, slomo just did an upload, so I'd rather think not [11:59] zakame: you could upload all the time... the uploaded sources just didn't went into the archive but were queued somewhere === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:59] ah === nomed [n=nomed@host16-122.pool872.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:54] siretart, ok, i lied [12:54] siretart, i could not let that rant go unanswered ; ) [12:54] kelmo_lap: :) === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kasina [n=kasina@196.200.37.114] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Kopete] === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lifeless [n=robertc@dsl-43.1.240.220.rns01-kent-syd.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:41] re [01:41] hi Yagisan [01:43] evening ajmitch === imbrandon [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@d060169.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nomed [n=nomed@host222-194.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:44] E: alacarte: bad-version-number 0.9-0ubuntu1~testing [02:44] i thought that was allowed now [02:44] linda doesn't complain about it, lintian does [02:46] at least Debian's archive tools don't support it yet, dunno about Launchpad [02:46] it's used for backports [02:47] if it is in use already, lintian is probably outdated [02:47] maybe linda never had a check for that === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:02] heylo === migma [n=migma@unaffiliated/migma] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:26] hmm [03:26] if I make a Kernel Source pack with the Beyond patchset....would I submit it to MOTU? === Hobbsee pokes Kyral [03:26] hmm? [03:26] Kyral: we can't [03:26] say what? [03:26] why not? [03:26] Kyral: I already asked about doing universer kernels [03:27] meh [03:27] thats one thing I like about Arch [03:27] Kyral: it was strongly discouraged by core [03:27] they have patched Kernels in their repos.... [03:27] and the Beyond kernel is very very nice [03:28] Kyral: because the users had issues with hoary (was that le last one with a universe kernel ?) [03:28] I dunno [03:28] Kyral: I have my own patched kernels to. I wish I could integrate l-r-m with them though === Gunooby [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:29] LRM....jeez thats a waste of a package... [03:29] I like what Arch does with respect to the NVidia drivers [03:29] They don't compile them for every kernel [03:29] Kyral: IIRC you said, rebuilds at start if needed [03:29] Yah [03:29] quite effective if you ask me [03:30] best part is that it works even if you custom compile [03:30] Kyral: I like that idea too, but I don't want gcc on my "secure" boxes === MrFaber [n=MrFaber@dslb-084-056-220-246.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:30] "Secure"? [03:30] hi all again :) [03:30] You mean like servers? [03:30] Ack! [03:31] I have a meeting at 10, and I haven't gotten breakfast yet!! [03:31] When loop-aes-source gets fixed? [03:31] Kyral: servers, firewalls, hardened desktops [03:31] Dapper should has been release already without the new release termin and the bug is reported since a long, long time [03:31] MrFaber: why do you need that ? [03:32] Not this discussion again please :) [03:32] For encryption [03:32] MrFaber: IIRC it was a kernel patch wasn't it ? [03:32] It allows use of the AES algorithm for encrypted loop devices [03:32] or encrypted partions [03:32] I always need the Debian sid loop-aes-source package in dapper [03:32] Yagisan: it is a module [03:32] I thought it was part of the Kernel.... [03:33] yes, but I use dmcrypt for that [03:33] Yagisan: and could be created with the module-assistant, at least in Breezy [03:33] MrFaber: I thought it was depreciated in favour of dmcrypt [03:33] Its a module option...at least in 2.6.16 [03:33] Hi all [03:33] Yagisan: but the package is in Dapper universe [03:33] zcat /proc/config.gz | grep AES [03:33] Yagisan: And I like it more then dm-crypt [03:34] I would like to test a latest upstream release package! [03:34] anyway...lunch [03:34] Can some one tell me the procedure... [03:34] And the fix is easy if someone could upload the new minor version [03:34] MrFaber: yeah, we have a lot of patches in universe that we can't use [03:35] Or what is with packages like Krusader what wasn't updated after Breezy, but this isn't that problem :( [03:35] Gunooby: usually they have instructions. Make a system backup in case it goes horribly wrong. [03:35] I need my loop-aes and to use a debian sid package isn't that solution for a stable release [03:36] MrFaber: well, have you submittted an UVF exception request [03:36] a bug report is there [03:36] But I have no clue how [03:36] Yagisan: Tested on my PC! Would like to test it on others for deps etc [03:36] It is hard enough in launchpad to find a bug imho [03:37] MrFaber: I agree. === migma [n=migma@unaffiliated/migma] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:38] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/loop-aes-source/+bug/30230 [03:38] Malone bug 30230 in loop-aes-source "loop-aes module can't be created in Dapper Drake" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [03:38] thats the bug [03:39] And I have spoken with the debian maintainer but he can't do anything since it works in newest releases [03:40] MrFaber: I might have a look at it tonight, please add me to the bug. [03:40] MrFaber: here we go. UVF exception process https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/UVFStatus [03:40] zul: how? [03:40] thx [03:41] MrFaber: should be approved, as you said it fixes the bug (but, not being a MOTU, I can't guarantee that) [03:41] zul which mail? [03:41] zul "Subscribe someone else to the bug report"? [03:44] Yagisan: diffstat of the upstream tarballs don't know how to do it :) === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:45] MrFaber: zulcss@gmail.com [03:46] thx, I am going to add you [03:46] zul: no error so it should have worked but I see no result :) [03:47] ok.. [03:49] whis are your favourite options for creating a source package with dpkg-buildpackage? [03:49] which === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:52] G0SUB_: dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot -kyourkeyhere [03:52] hmm, ok [03:52] -S -sa is the bit needed for the sources [03:53] Hobbsee: but for some strange reasons, it's not generating the orig.tar.gz & the diff.gz === StevenK likes pbuilder for this reason. [03:54] G0SUB_: is the folder named sourcename-version? [03:54] yes [03:54] It drops a _source.changes and related files in .. which I can upload right after testing. [03:54] i thought you had to create the .orig.tar.gz yourself... [03:54] StevenK: that's true [03:54] Hobbsee: nope === Hobbsee jumps on StevenK before she is jumped on === Mithrandir tickles Hobbsee before he's poked in the ribs. === Hobbsee pokes Mithrandir in the ribs doubly hard :P [03:55] ouch [03:55] :P === StevenK pushes Hobbsee off. === Hobbsee falls to the floor. meany [03:56] Well, you didn't have to jump on me elbows first. [04:01] MrFaber: after you make the patch, run diffstat patch [04:01] Yagisan: I haven't run any patch I just have used debian sid package [04:02] Yagisan: I am happy that I can create debian packages from sources but that is all :) [04:02] MrFaber: you need to debdiff the ubuntu & debian packages [04:02] And that not always [04:02] ok, I am going to try it === Yagisan thinks timidity needs a better patchset [04:05] Yagisan: is there any howto for that [04:05] no debdiff result in wiki.ubuntu.com [04:05] I have it an run it but gives me no real interesting result :) [04:09] MrFaber: I'd run it like this. debdiff oldfoo.dsc newfoo.dsc > newfoo.debdiff && diffstat newfoo.debdiff > newfoo.diffstat [04:10] how I got this dsc file :) [04:11] MrFaber: apt-get source foo [04:11] ah ok === Hobbsee enjoys the dapper+1 name. who else thought of monty python, at the first mention of a newt? === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan installs a decent patchset for timidity. === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:23] MrFaber: which bug is this again? [04:23] for the loop-aes [04:27] zul yes === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan does a little dance of joy. [04:35] could anyone review gnome-translate: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2266 ? === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:04] ++ === crimsun [i=crimsun@hacked.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === erez [n=erez@89-138-15-227.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === elkbuntu [n=melissa@203-214-128-159.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CarlFK [n=carl@c-67-163-39-124.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:29] dholbach: lol, you nailed brltty :) [05:29] nailed? :) [05:29] dholbach: but, you have a bug [05:30] it will not stop allready running brltty [05:30] i had to be quick about it... so it didn't delay beta release [05:30] hehe [05:30] I can't start killing random processes in a postinst :) [05:30] i have a diff on init.d/brltty, if you are interested :) [05:31] I'm not sure we'll add that - I'd rather prefer to fix it than kill it/stop it [05:31] your upload obsolets my also_quick_and_dirty_fix [05:31] this was just a quick fix for beta, ... as I said [05:31] i had exit 0 in start function :) [05:31] there's a fix in Debian to make it use udev [05:31] that's great [05:31] which might help too [05:31] so it doesn't try to detect madly (that's where it lost memory on the way) [05:32] at least that's as much as I gathered from the discussions [05:33] anyway... nice that brltty doesn't start by default === joelbryan [n=joelbrya@210.213.160.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:34] it's not a program 99% of ubuntu users need, but i agree we have to make it work for other 1% [05:36] yeah === dholbach hugs ivoks [05:36] ok, stop it.. [05:36] what will my g/f say :) [05:36] hello, what program is that? ivoks [05:36] joelbryan: brltty [05:37] time to go home, finally === jinty [n=jinty@12.Red-83-58-173.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:37] dholbach: do you have any info will now, after RC, archive managers sync some packages from debian? [05:37] dholbach: i would like to have libetpan asap, since i have to rebuild 2 apps with it [05:37] how do I make a package?, I'm trying to create a deb for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:38] ivoks: you subscribed them to the bugs? [05:38] yes [05:38] but i saw i'm not the only one pending... [05:38] i guess they didn't want to change anything beefore RC [05:39] joelbryan: i would love to help you, but i'm on the edge... didn't eat anything today, but smoked half a pack of cigaretts :/ [05:40] so, i'll leave now :) [05:40] hehe, me too, 1/2 red [05:40] bye all [05:40] thanks ivoks :-) [05:41] joelbryan: is it a python app? [05:41] joelbryan: do you try to push it into dapper btw? [05:42] sivang: yes, mark changed it's priority to high [05:42] sivang: nope, it's C and perl [05:43] joelbryan: ah, I see. does it fire up xchat or something at the right channel? [05:43] sivang: it use gaim's irc [05:44] joelbryan: nice. already stable and ready for main then? [05:44] (I might try o help you pull up a package, cdbs can be much help if you used standrad gnu autofoo tools) [05:44] yep, but still have to find the right regular expression on capturing NOTICE sent by nickserv [05:45] checking nick's availability only works when a user is currently using the nick. [05:45] I need that ultimate regex to solve the problem. [05:46] I'd say you need to query freenode's nick somehow [05:46] rather [05:46] since regex will be of no help if the user is not logged in under the nick [05:46] at least, for registered uses, that is [05:47] sivang: I use standard autotools, everything is basic, including perl's modules, which only have IO::Socket, not Net::IRC [05:47] joelbryan: those are standard perl modules? === sivang doesn't have a clue about perl :-) [05:48] sivang: yes, currently it only catch 320, which is generated if a user is only online. [05:49] else if not, it would print that the nick is available [05:49] sivang: the work would be 50% more easier if Net::IRC is included. [05:49] Net::IRC isn't standard in perl. [05:51] it uses bare IO::Socket, and connets through tcp, which is very hackish === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === |ZuZuu| [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-87-208.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:56] joelbryan: to query freenode's db? === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:56] sivang: how can you make a certain universe package to be included in main. say example, libnet-irc-perl === redguy [n=mati@adt124.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:59] sivang: yes, I use IO::Socket, to query freenode, whew! and it's very low level!! [06:01] joelbryan: well, I'm afraid it's too late now, as we're already an UVF/FF for ages. but you could have this included in universe for wide testing and bug fixing and try to push it into dapper+1. I am also working on a goal, that will not get included into main at this stage. (HomeUserBackup) [06:01] joelbryan: however, it might be worthwhile to ask for a big expection, if this is soemthign very small, very stable and easy to fix if things go rough. dunno [06:02] sivang: it's really easy to fix, with the correct regex. [06:04] joelbryan: try to ask on u-devel, AFAICT this is the right place to ask about this. [06:04] joelbryan: I'll ping you when I'll have time to help, possibly tomorrow [06:04] thanks [06:04] np :) === imbrandon [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:08] Hello Seveas! [06:09] hi joelbryan [06:10] Seveas: I made some changes in ULCS, [06:10] ah [06:10] joelbryan, btw: I told sabdfl about ulcs and he thinks it's a killer feature for edgy === hmrocha [n=hmrocha@194.117.22.216] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:11] Seveas: wow, he emailed me [06:11] Seveas: I got an automated registration system [06:12] cool [06:12] hello [06:12] I'll have a look at the code soon [06:12] how is responsible for packaging the nfs utilities? [06:12] i think they have a problem [06:12] i'm using 5.10 and i get "nfs warning: mount version older than kernel" [06:13] i think this shouldn't happen [06:13] hmrocha, make sure your mount, nfs-client and nfs-kernel-server are up to date [06:13] i'm not using nfs-kernel-server because the server is a centos 4.3 [06:13] 5.10 is only the client [06:14] and i'm using autofs [06:14] and i have all packages updated [06:14] Seveas: btw, when did you told sabdfl about it? [06:14] then it's not unusual to get this, if nothing is failing you can ignore it [06:14] joelbryan, CC meeting 2 weeks ago [06:15] but something is failing, and i don't know if it's the ubuntu client or the centos server [06:15] i get "nfs: server foobar not responding, still trying", on the client [06:16] but it appears that everything is working perfectly on the server [06:25] hmrocha: check if the client tries to mount the right server address/path [06:26] yes it does [06:26] i had the same problem today [06:26] it mounts and it works, but its very, very very slow [06:26] which i solved by making the client mount nfs with tcp instead of udp [06:26] hmrocha: portmap problem? [06:27] in our case it didn't work at all === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:29] Heya gang [06:29] spacey: i hope not, it's running, but i'll try restarting it [06:30] hmrocha: in my case we use ltsp 4.1 not ubuntu ltsp btw [06:31] ltsp? [06:31] what's that? [06:31] ah [06:31] nevermind ;p [06:31] thin client [06:31] Linux Terminal Server Project iirc [06:31] which mounts root nfs file system [06:31] ;p [06:31] that's not what we use here [06:31] ah yeah i misunderstood [06:31] im to much into thin clientness ;p [06:31] atm :) [06:31] we use a proprietary system to upload linux/windows to the students computers === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:32] a student turns on a computer and is asked if he wants linux/windows [06:33] he chooses ubuntu linux and then the linux partition's content is compared to the cache partition === TMM [n=hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:33] the cache partition uses a proprietary filesystem that used unpartitioned disk space [06:33] if the content is the same, it just boots [06:34] if it isn't it synchronizes the content of the cache partition with the linux partition and then boots [06:34] the home partition of the ubuntu linux that is uploaded to the computer is obviously nfs mounted so that the students can have theirs files in all computers they logon [06:35] Heya LaserJock [06:35] it's something more advanced than thin clients [06:35] its thick client network booting with a networked grub ;) [06:36] ogra: yes, something like that but much more advanced :D [06:36] i was pondering to add a network grub setup to our ltsp [06:36] we don't use network grub [06:36] it does the same just not with gui like the proprietary solutions i know [06:36] neither thin clients, since all processing is done in the clients [06:36] yes, thats a so called thick client ;) [06:37] hi bddebian === jinty [n=jinty@12.Red-83-58-173.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chninkel [n=yann@alcyone.pleiades.fr.eu.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === webwolf_27 [n=jeremy@DSL01.83.171.184.194.NEFkom.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:51] not much going on here [07:51] bye guys - happy ubuntu beta partying! [07:53] where's that beer? [07:56] Europe/Berlin :) === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:00] Europe/Barcelona anyone? [08:00] Europe/France/Grenoble anyone ? :-) [08:01] sladen: me [08:01] hmm, how about Reno, NV, USA? [08:02] anything in Ottawa? [08:03] dont think so [08:04] yeah, North America needs some more coverage, these Europeans get to have all the fun ;-) [08:05] come over :) [08:05] hmm, raphink almost had me convinced to go over there, but I just can't afford it [08:07] LaserJock: I can't afford anything [08:08] I'd like to go to one of the dev conferences too, but the chances of it coming somewhere close are pretty slim === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ozamosi__ [n=ozamosi@h100n4c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === wooster1168 [n=josh@24.115.218.54.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:12] montreal was pretty close to me at least ;) [08:14] it was on the same continent at least for me [08:14] but I didn't make it === fredix [n=fredix@202.70.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio__ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@ip-124-244.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik_away [n=carthik@user-0cej755.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:40] sladen: still around? [08:40] zul: you went to UBZ? [08:40] oh, too late [08:43] nuernberg germany [08:50] hub: yep...just for the first day though i had tickets to the sens game the next day [08:50] zul: we probably met then. I was there [08:50] I was in Mtl at that time [08:51] hub: could be...i might not remember because I met alot of people ;) [08:51] yeah === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0101.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:07] wb TheMuso === lakin__ [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin__ [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === womble [n=mpalmer@eth359.nsw.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === webwolf_27 [n=jeremy@DSL01.83.171.184.194.NEFkom.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["...] === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === |ZuZuu| [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-17-223.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === wooster1168 [n=josh@24.115.218.54.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blueyed [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed] has joined #ubuntu-motu === |ZuZuu| [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-22-51.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [n=nnblackb@ringmaster.active-4.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:58] i i know a bug isnt a bug can someone close the bug report? [10:58] cbx33, which one? [10:59] 23647 [10:59] cbx33, you can close it too, click on the link that is the package description in the bug report... [10:59] ok [10:59] change to rejected? === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@167.246.8.60] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:59] When I installed network-manager-gnome and it's dependencies and rebooted with the new ubuntu beta, it gave me an error when I logged in saying network-manager was missing necesary resources or something like that. this a known bug? [11:00] carthik, there's no closed....do i choose rejected? [11:01] cbx33, yes, but maybe the reporter thinks it is a bug that needs fixing. just leave a message asking the reporter to reopen it stating the case if required. [11:14] No ideas? === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zerokarmaleft [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu