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Get_A_Fixhello12:00
scififor simplicity, i have just created "Downloads", "Movies" and "Music" folders straight into home directory, is that ok/how most people do it in ubuntu?12:00
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ZarephathltR20: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1256912:00
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Warboscifi: If you look at the hidden folders in your home then there will be a firefox one (not sure what it's called, maybe something mozilla) It seems like you have backed up this, so if you screw your settings up later then just replace this hidden folder with that folder you just moved. That's how to restore your backup12:01
WarboGet_A_Fix: Hello12:01
Get_A_Fixgood day, is there a way to bypass, avoid the log in screen in Breezy12:01
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scifiwarbo: yeh part of the update process moves the old firefox into a firefox 1.07 backup folder, i put the ffsettings folder in there12:02
Warboscifi: I have a "Files" folder just because I keep my personal files on a seperate partition which I like to share between installations (so I don't want it full of the hidden "dot files" from my home, and I mount the partition on /home/chris/Files12:02
Get_A_Fixwe are setting up an internet cafe and don't want the customers to have to log in, this possible,12:02
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WarboGet_A_Fix: If you leave your computers on and take away the menus (so they can't log out) then that should work12:03
scifiwarbo: fair enuff, but my way is ok / reasonable ?12:03
moodowamaello all, having some trouble with ubuntu as follows: have installed xp on an empty partition, which erased grub. now dapper is lost and ubuntu rescue mode (floght5 cd) does NOT see any partitions. suggestions?12:04
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Warboscifi: Sure it is, It's just that I hoard files and I regularly get swamped with folders full of thousands of files, so this time (my hard drive failed, so now I'm on Dapper) I've decided to try and start as complex as possible so that my folders won't get too full )individually)12:04
scifii have heard it mentioned that after installing breezy for the 1st time it is best to update and upgrade repositories, if this is true, how do i go about it?12:05
scifiwarbo: hehe ok12:05
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Get_A_FixWarbo: thanks, we'll give that a go. So the initial log in cannot be circumvented12:05
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Warboscifi: You should update and upgrade your packages, but not your repositories, although your will probably want to enable Universe and Multiverse12:05
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felipe__ Hi there, I use ubuntu 5.10 and installed ruby from the repos. Now I'm learning Rails and I need to update to ruby 1.8.4 because I have 1.8.3. Can I do this from the repos?12:06
WarboGet_A_Fix: Yes it can. You can choose whether to log a user in straight away (the login screen doesn't appear) or to wait a few seconds12:06
beerockxsfelipe__, maybe from backports, not sure12:06
scifiWarbo: yeh sorry meant packages, already enabled multi/universe. how do i go about updating packages?12:06
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FlannelKingscifi: through what? synaptic? apt?12:07
mianikwhat would be recomended for a slow computer a 233, gnome or kde?12:07
scifiFlannelking: which evers best way :)12:07
dooglusneither really12:07
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WarboGet_A_Fix: I set my dad's system up to skip the login screen, but now I've made it wait 10 seconds to give me a chance to log in if I want (as soon as you press a key the timer goes up to 30 secs)12:07
FlannelKingmianik: [black|flux] box12:07
dooglusmianik: use something lighter, I'd suggest fluxbox or xfce412:07
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Warboscifi: System>Admin>Synaptic Reload then Mark all upgrades then apply12:08
mianikFlannelKing: dooglus thanx, what about the new one, um,, whats it called12:08
FlannelKingscifi: alright, we'll use synaptic, just a few buttons.  Open synaptic, click "reload" then click ... oh, what's the text. it's the one next to it.12:08
dooglusmianik: you mean xubuntu?12:08
mianikdooglus: yes12:08
FlannelKingright, mark all upgrades.  then hit smart upgrade. and then apply.12:08
moodowamarepeating myself: ello all, having some trouble with ubuntu as follows: have installed xp on an empty partition, which erased grub. now dapper is lost and ubuntu rescue mode (floght5 cd) does NOT see any partitions. suggestions? partition tables (?) seem to be all messed up but xp works fine and sees all non linux partitions12:08
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dooglusmianik: that's XFCE412:08
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FlannelKingmianik: xubuntu is xfce12:08
mianikdooglus: FlannelKing  ahh ok , thanx :)12:09
Get_A_FixWarbo: thanks again - Duh - I don't know why but I didn't even see the Login Screen Setup option before. LOL.. thanks bunches12:09
WarboGet_A_Fix: np12:10
scifiwarbo/flannel: did reload and mark all upgrades, but apply is blanked out12:10
Warboscifi: Then you are up to date :)12:10
trainstrokerwarbo: it worked after some fiddling12:10
scifio right lol, thought thered be loads :P12:10
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Warbotrainstroker: Then you can help others who have this problem (I'm not sure of the exact steps to follow, as I haven't started from scratch with a dualboot before)12:11
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Kr4t05!printing12:12
ubotumethinks printing is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org12:12
Warboscifi: If there are any packages with stars next to them then they are upgradable (i think) but you can check the columns intalled version and newest version12:12
trainstrokerwoot another problem12:12
cadkinsi have a question about the new ATI drivers, will they work well enough for gaming purposes with my x800?12:12
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trainstrokerwhen i play a specific avi, i cannot see any video ... i can see some kind of blurry radar thingy12:13
GTXIs there anyone here which is kind enough to see why my iptables configuration ( http://www.proupload.com/uploads/1145521713.txt ) isn't allowing me to send or receive emails to the internet or localy :\12:13
moodowamawould precreating an empty partition with acronis disk director for example make ubuntu dapper recognize it (already tried resizing partitions to get m recognized but no luck)?12:13
Warbotrainstroker: That is a visualisation (What A Goom), so it doesn't understand the codec12:13
ricodued..Is there some trick to enabling round corners on window borders? Or are screenshots of these themes lying to me?12:13
scifiwarbo: thx they all match latest version. cud u point me to that restrictedformats site i wanna do the flash for mozilla install now12:13
Warbotrainstroker: Maybe try VLC12:13
scifiwarbo: i will add all these guide sites to bookmarks so not to keep bothering u in future :)12:14
trainstrokerwhat is vlc? ill try mplayer12:14
Warboscifi: Errr. I don't know ubotu's commands12:14
scifi!restricted12:14
ubotusomebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats12:14
scifi:)12:14
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ENE|ToxicIs it necessary with nvidia-glx-legacy drivers for Geforce2 Mx100 cards ? (The legacy-driver is incompatible with my X version)12:15
Warbotrainstroker: VLC is Video LAN Client. It uses it's own player engine, basically there is no point trying it in loads of players if they all use the Xine engine12:15
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felipe__!backports12:15
ubotu[backports]  Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports12:15
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scifihmmm cant get my updated firefox to pickup links from x-chat ^^12:16
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Rhyddinyep12:16
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revartjsomebody edit php???12:16
FlannelKingscifi: you have to change preferred-browser or, whatever that script is called12:16
Warbomoodowama: Don't know. (Why isn't that an option?)12:16
spinehow can i change apache permissions to execute VLC with PHP, i tried this with no luck12:16
spine<?php12:16
spinesystem("(/usr/bin/vlc /home/spine/video --intf=http --http-host 192.168.1.100:4358 --fullscreen) >nul");12:16
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moodowamaWarbo: thx for confirming12:18
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moodowamabtw: of importance for opera users, vlc moz plugin makes opera segfault12:19
cadkinsanyone kno anything about the new ati drivers?12:19
revartjsomebody where i can find the editor php, equal that dreamwever in windows12:20
revartj????12:20
ZarephathI am trying to figure out how to extract pics that are .svgz? My reading claims that it is a gzipped file..however gzip -d filename, or gunip filename says it doesn't understand the extension...inkscape can view it..but I can't save it as .png or .jpg12:20
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ltR20when i do glxgears i get this extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".12:20
felipe__beerockxs, No, I added the backport and I don't see any new packages. The odd thing is that in the repos its says that it is ruby 1.8.2 and it is not12:20
moodowamabtw2: also of importance for opera users, the latest builds can use moz mplayer plugin12:20
mjr*sigh* deciding on hardware is rough; how's the support for via k8t890 chipset for amd64 these days, LAN/audio/etc-wise?12:20
moodowamatoo bad i'm stuck in cp :(12:20
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beerockxsfelipe__, then you'll have to install it manually, or make a request on the backports forum12:21
ubu_newhay12:21
WarboZarephath: Maybe rename (or mv) it to .svg.gz? That is a horrible fix, but it may work (and if it does then someone ought to be shot)12:21
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moodowama*xp12:21
jadaz87hello i was wondering where i can change the default background manually and not through System>>Preferences>>Backgrounds12:21
revartjhelp???12:21
ubu_newI am working with the live cd and updated the screen driver (dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) but now it writes me fatel server error12:21
ubu_newserver is already active for display 012:22
beerockxsjadaz87, the file is in /usr/share/backgrounds12:22
Warbojadaz87: I think the only command line ways are for the "actual" background, ie. X's root window, not Nautilus's backdrop12:22
beerockxsreplacing that should work, i think, but i don't recommend it12:22
ubu_newhow can I make the x work now?12:22
simonpca++12:22
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jadaz87beerockxs WArbo there is not way to manual go in a file and replace the default backgrounds path to another one?12:23
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scifi!mozilla12:23
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, scifi12:23
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beerockxsjadaz87, i don't think so, I think the background is saved in the gconf database12:23
Warbojadaz87: In that case it would be somewhere in all of the XML in ~/.gnome212:23
scifi!firefox12:23
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ubu_newis there any way to turn of the server and make it load again on live cd?12:24
beerockxsubu_new, tried switching to a console and doing sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart?12:24
ubu_newbeerockxs, it is live cd - so to do what you said?12:25
arrickhey has anyone in here used afterstep?12:25
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beerockxsubu_new, i don't know if it works in a live cd, it's worth a shot, though12:25
jadaz87beerockxs Warbo i was also wondering where the properties for the gnomepanels are like color ...?12:25
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trainstrokeri installed a packet (aviplayer) from synaptic package manager. how do i run it?12:25
gravesonhow do i get my keyboard shorcuts to work again . alt-ctrl-f1 ... etc has just stopped working12:25
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arrickBan Heta12:25
revartjhow can i programming in php since linux???12:26
moodowamagparted or qtparted livecd??? have to create an empty partition the ubuntu installer can see. what's the difference between the two?12:26
scififlannel: cant find that script anywhere man ^^12:26
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Warbojadaz87: I think there ARE ways to override the panel's colours, but mainly it's the theme12:26
ltR20how do i show FPS IN GLXGEARS12:26
arrickhow do these bots keep getting in?12:26
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ltR20glxgears --showfps ??12:26
MathmanltR20: run it from the command line.12:26
trainstrokeri installed a packet (aviplayer) from synaptic package manager. how do i run it?12:26
ltR20what's the command?12:26
ltR20glxgears ? it doesnt output my fps12:26
MathmanltR20: always does when I run it.12:26
ubu_newbeerockxs, thanks!12:27
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ltR20you just put "glxgears"12:27
MathmanltR20: yep12:27
jadaz87WArbo i did it but i am doing a livecd and i need to manual edit the configurationn file for them so it will come up blue and have the panels in certain positions by default12:27
ltR20ya doesn't display!12:27
MathmanltR20: or maybe you need to press space bar once in a while12:27
gravesonwhat does this error mean : xchat-text: Depends: xchat-common (= 2.4.4-0ubuntu5) but 2.6.0-0ubuntu1~breezy1 is to be installed12:27
MathmanltR20: and you're running it from the command line right?  and you're looking there for the output?12:27
Warbojadaz87: The /etc/skel files are default configs. That's all I can say really (I have made a few Live CDs before, but KNOPPIX based, none Ubuntu based)12:28
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MathmanltR20: is that a no?12:28
felipe__beerockxs, I had breezy installed in another computer and it worked fine....12:28
binky@Mathman: It means you should look for a newer version of XChat12:29
scifianyone know the script to get mozilla to pickup html links in x-chat?12:29
nickrudjadaz87, you probably are looking for gconftool-2 , it allows manipulation of the gconf database from the command line12:29
beerockxsfelipe__, I have no idea, sorry12:29
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beerockxsscifi, set it as the default browser12:29
Mathmanbinky: I have the newest version they make for aqua.12:29
ltR20no it doesn't work12:29
ltR20its a bug in breezy12:29
ltR20i checked12:29
scifibeerockxs: it is12:30
binkyaqua? mac?12:30
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Mathmanbinky: yep.12:30
FlannelKingscifi: yes, you can.  You just have to set it up in xchat12:30
binkyoh sorry, I don't have one :)12:30
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Mathmanbinky: I'm just messing with ya.  you're confusing me with someone else here.12:30
trainstrokeri installed a packet (aviplayer) from synaptic package manager. how do i run it?12:31
binkyah12:31
beerockxstrainstroker, run aviplayer from a console?12:31
Warbotrainstroker: Right click it in synaptic and go on properties. In installed files look for anything in "/usr/bin"12:31
gravesoni am receiving numerous gpg errors can some please help me get rid of these12:31
beerockxsgraveson, when are you receiving them?12:32
Mathmanget some ecc memory?12:32
MisterNn812:32
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gravesonbeerockxs:when running sudo apt-get update12:32
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beerockxsgraveson, do you have custom entries in /etc/apt/sources.list?12:33
duelbootokay that HAD to be the dummest thing...I'm not a bot and I AM registered!12:33
duelbootdumbest12:33
trainstrokerthank warbo12:33
arrickevening duelboot12:33
gravesonbeerockxs: i used to have but now i only have the universe and multiverse. i will paste a llink on pastebin for you12:34
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bigfoot1where are the pics in "desktop wallpaper" stored?12:34
beerockxsbigbootay, the default ones are in /usr/share/backgrounds12:34
scififlannelking: i suspect its soemthing i need to change in advanced>url handlers... but i dont know exactly12:34
arrickhaha, not today duelboot12:34
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bigbootaybeerockxs, thanks :)12:34
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LinuxJonesanybody know how to extract multiple (spanned) rar archives, the -x switch only extracts the first file in the archive ?12:35
arrickduelboot, I have been on for 48 hours straight working on my server, check this out12:35
duelbootholy cow arrick12:35
duelbootthink I have your address...lemme check12:35
arrickthis one is different12:35
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duelbootwow arrick, from the homepage, it's changed tremendously...and in a good way12:36
gravesonbeerockxs: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1257112:36
arrickyeah12:36
beerockxsthat looks fine graveson, what are the errors you are getting?12:37
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gravesonbeerockxs: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1257212:38
JinkgunsToday marks the first day that I have ever heard "linux" mentioned in a commercial.12:38
JinkgunsI need to sit here a moment and just take it all in.12:39
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binky@LinuxJones Select the first or last rar in nautilus of the first archive, and then select the second while holding the Ctrl key12:39
WarboJinkguns: Have a look on Google Video and YouTube. I found some good ones by (shock horror) RedHat12:39
beerockxsgraveson, that does not appear to be an error on your side, looks like something's wrong with the ubuntu repository12:39
duelbootFWIW I FAILED miserably at trying to upgrade to dapper...back to breezy...thank goodness for backups!12:39
duelbootand no I won't talk about it12:40
JinkgunsWarbo, cool, but this was on normal tv. ;)12:40
Jinkgunslike, my tv.12:40
WarboJinkguns: What country? (and if UK, what channel)12:41
JinkgunsI doubt the red hat commercial aired for very long or in more then a few places.12:41
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LinuxJonesbinky: it says it can't open the archive if I select more than one12:41
JinkgunsUnited States, History Channel, it was a commercial for Dell Servers. I was like, that was a weird word, what did he say? Lin-ux? Linux? omg.12:41
Jinkguns;)12:41
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gravesonbeerockxs: ok tnx12:42
WarboJinkguns: Yeah, always with the servers. Noone wants to take on the desktop :(12:42
beerockxsgraveson, np12:42
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binkyWhay version of ubuntu?12:42
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JinkgunsWell, I tried doing a ubuntu laptop today, ndiswrapper worked all for 20 minutes before the machine locked up and since I've been unable to even scan a wireless network.12:43
newbie33I want to ask how to change my MAC permanently12:43
binkyFile roller in 2.8 2.10 did that for "usability"12:43
newbie33I changing it with ifconfig12:43
newbie33but after reboot it backs12:43
MortuisI have a command line question.  I want to record the results of "cat filename | grep cats" into a file.  How do I do this?12:43
WarboJinkguns: Why do people use windoze drivers with ndiswrapper and expect stability? :)12:43
duelbootWarbo, cuz it's possible!12:44
rukuarticWarbo: Cuz thats the only way they can12:44
WarboMortuis: Add > file at the end12:44
MortuisWarbo: Thank you12:44
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JinkgunsWell, I really didn't get a choice, it's a old laptop, compaq, been through iraq sandstorms and a 3 alarm fire. Broadcom wireless. :/12:44
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duelbootWarbo, I haven't had any issues with windows driver and ndiswrapper12:44
rukuarticneither have I12:44
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trainstrokerdoes anyone have a zen vision?12:45
JinkgunsThe problem is, it works for awhile, then suddenly it won't detect my network anymore12:45
Warboduelboot: Was sort of a joke, "Why isn't Linux ready for the desktop?" "Because the Windows drivers crash it"12:45
duelbootWarbo, not funny...hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha12:46
binkyDoes anyone here have a Minolta DiMage camera working in breezy or dapper WITH a memory card inserted?  Pmount crashes but in Mandriva and debian stable it works just fine.12:46
JinkgunsHave any of you seen this new linux seller? http://system76.com/12:46
JinkgunsThey look good.12:46
arrickhow do I force umount?12:46
JinkgunsVery good.12:46
binkyDriving me nutty12:46
rukuarticumount -f arrick?12:46
arrickthanks12:46
Warboarrick: add -l12:46
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rukuarticarrick: it was a guess12:46
duelbootJinkguns, no and it's too expensive anyway12:47
newbie33hey... please tell how to change MAC adress permanent12:47
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rukuarticarrick: Oh wait, I was right. XD12:47
JinkgunsYou can't change your mac address, newbie.12:47
JinkgunsIt's burned into the card.12:47
duelbootJinkguns, yes you can!  MAC clone12:47
newbie33Jinkguns, I can12:47
JinkgunsDo you mean your I.P. Address?12:47
cafuegoJinkguns: Well, that wireless at least should work fine (natively) on the new Dapper.12:47
JinkgunsWell, Mac Clone sure. :/12:47
newbie33with ifconfig12:47
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newbie33but how to do it permanent12:47
Jinkgunsreally cafuego?12:47
ltR20how do i edit my network config12:48
cafuegoJinkguns: Yep12:48
cafuego!bcm43xx12:48
JinkgunsDear god YAY12:48
ubotuTo use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.12:48
ltR20i want to change my ip address to *.10112:48
ltR20!tell ltR20 about network12:48
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cafuegoJinkguns: The reverse engineering worked and there is now a mainly useable free driver (it does require firmware)12:48
beerockxsltR20: system - system configuration - network12:48
arrickwhat is the force mount?12:49
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binkyAre there any kind pmount guru's?12:49
superdumphello12:49
ltR20beerrocxs12:49
duelbootbinky, I'm a pmount guru...now just what is a pmount?  lol12:49
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ltR20beerockxs, when i enter the new information the OK button is greyed out12:49
superdumpi have a 32-bit chroot set up but when i try to apt-get realplayer it complains about an xlibs dependency being missing12:50
Warboarrick: If I need to unmount something being accessed (well, only if the system THINKS it's being accessed) I use the "umount -l directory" (that's a lowercase L)12:50
duelbootjk binky don't know anything about it12:50
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arrickWarbo, now I am trying to remount it12:50
binkypmount/hal automount thingamajigy12:50
beerockxsltR20: are you sure you are entering the ip address correctly?12:50
MrProper__does anyone else think that the latest art work for dapper, is umm....well too kde'ish12:50
superdumpi'm using dapper with main, restricted, universe and multiverse in my sources list12:50
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MortuisIs there a linux equivalent to windows notepad?12:50
Warboarrick: Well, I don't know, sorry12:50
spariticus_rexMortuis: gedit12:50
WarboMortuis: Gedit12:50
cafuegoMortuis: No, Linux has no text editor that are 8that* crap.12:50
superdumpdid the xlibs dependency get renamed for xorg 7 or something?12:51
Mortuisspariticus_rex: Thanks12:51
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beerockxsltR20: you can also directly edit /etc/network/interfaces12:51
Mortuiscafuego: It's what I'm used to man, gotta start somewhere. ;-)12:51
Warbocafuego: I know someone who found a way of comtrolling a computer with 1 line of text opened in Notepad :)12:51
newbie33beerockxs, what to edit12:51
cafuegoMortuis: There are about 1500 other less crap text editors to pick from, though ;-)12:51
newbie33exactly12:51
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beerockxsnewbie33: huh?12:51
arrickhey whats wrong with this command? sudo mount -t ext3 /home/arrick/etc112:52
newbie33I need to change mac too12:52
scifi!firefox12:52
cafuegoarrick: You forgot the physical device.12:52
spariticus_rexarrick: you need the /dev point that you're mounting from12:52
arrickthanks12:52
Warboarrick: If you give a type option, do you need to specify everything (it no longer reads fstab)?12:52
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rukuarticnewbie33: Why? Are you trying to be l33t and break into someone's network?12:52
arrickyour rigth forgot is the word12:52
newbie33no12:52
newbie33I cant have internet12:52
newbie33I have two pc12:53
newbie33and internet may work only in one mac12:53
newbie33so if I want internet on other pc i need to set the same mac12:53
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spariticus_rexnewbie33: sounds pretty odd. What kind of setup do you have?12:54
trainstrokerIs there a way i can auto execute a scipt of sorts.... everytime i restart my computer i lose permission to my ntfs partition. i have to unmount and remout with uid option.12:54
cafuegotrainstroker: Add the uid/gid options in /etc/fstab12:54
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trainstrokerhow12:54
trainstrokerits just output isnt it?12:55
newbie33spariticus_rex, dont know12:55
rukuartictrainstroker: add something to .bashrc is a cheap easy way12:55
Warbotrainstroker: You haven't sorted out fstab properly then. But in any case startup scripts are in /etc/init.d and run update-rc.d (I think)12:55
superdumpalso, in my fstab i have "/dev/sdb1       /storage        ext2    user,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0013               0       0"12:55
ENE|ToxicSo I installed Ubuntu-server with xdm/fluxbox. System tries to start xdm at init phase, but the screen just flickers and returns, giving me only the opportunity to login to console, why's that ?12:55
superdumptrying to mount without a type definition tells me that the type is invalid or the superblock is invalid12:56
cafuegosuperdump: uid and gid have no effect on ext212:56
superdumpok12:56
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cafuegosuperdump: Mind you, it's not ext2 if you get that message. WHat is suppsoed to be on it?12:56
superdumpbut sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/sdb1 /storage works fine12:56
JinkgunsWhen is dapper coming out. ;)12:56
spariticus_rexENE|Toxic: try running "startx" in the terminal and see what errors it puts out.12:56
superdumpit's definitely ext212:56
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Warbotrainstroker: /etc/fstab is a config file, in plain text. Edit it with a n editor like Gedit or nano (as super user) to change it's options. I don;t know what your "It's just output" means12:56
spariticus_rexJinkguns: Dapper is scheduled for June.12:57
ENE|Toxicspariticus_rex: startx works, and it opens a terminal from which I can launch fluxbox12:57
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superdumpand there's accessible data on it :)12:57
MortuisHow do I convert a text file created in windows to something gedit can read?12:57
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superdumpdos2unix?12:57
spariticus_rexENE|Toxic: so your problem is getting xdm to work?12:57
WarboMortuis: Text is the most basic standard isn't it? Have m$ even screwed that up?12:57
MortuisWarbo: "gedit was not able to automatically detect the character coding. Please, check that you are not trying to open a binary file and try again selecting a character coding in the 'Open File...' (or 'Open Location') dialog."12:57
superdumpWarbo: line endings12:57
ENE|Toxicspariticus_rex: yep pretty much12:58
Warbosuperdump: Isn't that just word docs?12:58
binkypmount output:ID=="pci0000:00"12:58
binky    DRIVER=="unknown"12:58
binky    Uh, if that helps anyone12:58
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spariticus_rexENE|Toxic: If you try "sudo xdm" from terminal, is there any error message?12:58
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mcphailThat error has nothing to do with line endings12:58
trainstrokerwarbo: i found the file (i thought fstab was a directory) and how do i implement the permissions12:58
arrickhey why did ubugtu send me to #ubuntu-unregged?12:58
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superdumpWarbo: any windows/dos doc unless you have some text editor that can output to unix style12:59
ENE|Toxicspariticus_rex: Nothing, the screen flickers and return.12:59
Warbotrainstroker: Look for the line with your device in it. Now add in the options column a comma then uid=yourusername12:59
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Stormx2I made some wallpapers if any of you guys are interested - http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=3812212:59
spariticus_rexENE|Toxic: No errors... Is there some sort of /var/log/xdm.log file?12:59
Stormx2owww pins and needles12:59
superdumpcafuego: any suggestions? is there any way i can probe the partition for useful information?01:00
ENE|Toxicspariticus_rex: there's X.org.0.log01:00
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rukuarticStormx2: Once I fell asleep on my arm... when I woke up I couldn't move my arm01:00
MortuisWarbo: The file contents display just fine when I cat the file.  For what that's worth.01:00
Stormx2rukuartic: Ah damn01:00
cafuegosuperdump: Try a different superblock.01:00
ENE|Toxicspariticus_rex: the X.org log doesn't contain any obviouis errors though.01:00
superdumpwhat is a superblock?01:00
spariticus_rexENE|Toxic: Strange. I'm not sure what the matter is then.01:00
binkythanks anyway everyone01:00
Stormx2Its a kind of robot.01:01
Stormx2That plays tetris01:01
Stormx2o.O01:01
Stormx2I'll be quiet now01:01
Stormx2How are you all this fine evening anyway?01:01
Stormx2No major hickups in dapper?01:01
trainstrokerwhats that applet called that will add "open with sudo/root" into the right click menu?01:01
WarboStormx2: Fine apart from the bloody cats yelling outside01:01
ENE|Toxicspariticus_rex: Ok thanks anyway. By the way, since I never did get xdm to run, what's it suppose to show me anyway, a login-screen similar to gdm, or just a simple interface with a terminal like startx ?01:01
superdumprealplayer doesn't have satiated dependencies in my 32-bit chroot, is that a hiccup?01:02
superdump;)01:02
Warbotrainstroker: It's added by automatix, that's all I know (don't use automatix)01:02
Stormx2!automatrix01:02
ubotuStormx2: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:02
spariticus_rexENE|Toxic: It's like gdm but a lot simpler. You simply type in your username and password and it opens your default window manager.01:02
Matthewv!automatix01:02
ubotuhmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.01:02
Stormx2ubotu, automatrix is evil, you should use easyubuntu or easybreezy01:02
ubotuokay, Stormx201:02
AskHL!easyubuntu01:02
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu01:02
Stormx2Oh wait01:02
Stormx2I mispelt01:02
Stormx2Sorry01:02
ENE|Toxicspariticus_rex: sounds fine enough, but that it doesn't work. I'll just scoure the manual and see, thx01:02
trainstroker!automatix01:03
Stormx2ubotu: forget automatrix01:03
ubotui forgot automatrix, Stormx201:03
trainstrokerubotu: suck a cock01:03
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, trainstroker01:03
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WarboStormx2: That's the next Matrix game, with AI that plays itself01:03
DBO!CoC01:03
ubu_newI asked before but I still have the same problem - after installation and not founding the screen (not live cd) I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it write that package not installed01:03
ubotuI heard coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/01:03
Stormx2Warbo: lol01:04
Stormx2*sigh*01:04
Stormx2I should get unreal tournament working on this machine01:04
Stormx2or learn C01:04
Stormx2or something01:04
BlueSwirllearn c01:04
spariticus_rexStormx2: learn C and write some cool apps for us all! ;-)01:04
Stormx2The problem with ubuntu is I don't spend most of my time yelling "DAMN YOU WINDOWS STOP CRASHING!"01:04
ubu_newwhat to do in order to find the screen?01:04
BlueSwirlthen portugese01:04
WarboStormx2:  I should finish the half-drawn icon that's witing in Inkscape on my other desktop01:04
Stormx2haha01:05
BlueSwirlStormx2: lol01:05
Stormx2I already wrote some cool scripts 01:05
Stormx2One is the equivilent of PHP's ucwords01:05
WarboStormx2: That's why I'm in this chat, because I don't have anything to fix on my PC01:05
arrickMy wife tells me to switch all the computers to Ubuntu, so my temper isnt always in the red zone, more peaceful around the house that way01:05
arrickhaha01:05
trainstrokerhow do i open a file in sudo in the file browser01:05
rukuarticHmm question here... why is it that if I move my wine application to another desktop or minimize it, CPU usage jumps up by 20%?01:05
trainstrokerlike open a text file under root01:05
arricknano01:05
spariticus_rexStormx2: great idea, why don't you rewrite UT2K4 for Linux?01:05
arrickor gedit01:05
Stormx2trainstroker: Double Click?01:05
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Warbotrainstroker: Do it from a terminal with "sudo" beforehand01:06
trainstrokerhow do i edit the fstab then?01:06
Stormx2trainstroker: Yeah. or if you don't like terminal you could use alt+f201:06
arrickStormx2, you ave to doubleclick? it only takes me one01:06
Stormx2trainstroker: sudo gedit /etc/fstab01:06
Stormx2arrick: 1 selects it for me, 2 opens it.01:06
arricktrainstroker, or sudo nano /etc/fstab01:06
arrickhaha01:06
Stormx2do any of you actually like the default ubuntu wallpaper?01:07
arrickI hate poo brown01:07
Stormx2Yeah01:07
Dekkardthe ubuntudapper beta wallpaper?01:07
Stormx2A lot of people think that.01:07
Stormx2Dekkard: Well from the article I saw posted on slashdot, its the same as the breezy wallpaper01:07
mcphaili like the brown. It's different.01:07
Dekkardits better than the crane01:07
WarboStormx2: Not really, although it doesn't get on my nerves like the XP one (too bright). I don't think it fits in with the shiny Dapper human theme either01:07
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ubu_newanybody can help me with my screen problem?01:07
rukuarticubu_new: screen the program?01:08
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ubu_newthat the screen is not supported01:08
Dekkardok.. there is one now.. it says..Ubuntu dapper beta01:08
rukuarticubu_new: So screen hardware? AKA: Monitor?01:08
Dekkardbut othere than that the wallpaper group sucks..thats why i use gnomeart01:08
Stormx2Yeah but I mean... brown? Is it one of these like, secret conspiracies. To stop people being so bored on ubuntu that they commit suicide or worse, go on IRC? They think its so bad they have to manually look for a new wallpaper, which introduces them into basic firefox and gnome features01:08
Stormx2And also I blame the government XD01:08
ubu_newyes01:09
FlannelKingStormx2: it's ok, in dapper it's switched to orange01:09
jadaz87Stormx2 the ubuntu background is so DEPRESSING it is not even funny01:09
ubu_newI did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it says that package not installed01:09
WarboJinkguns: Just saw an advert for Solaris01:09
mcphailbetter than brushed metal01:09
Dekkardbrown is the new black.....01:09
Stormx2XD Dekkard01:09
WarboJinkguns: Pity it was the film :(01:09
rukuarticHahah Dekkard01:09
BlueSwirli like ubuntu's default look, too many distros are blue os x rip offs01:09
arrickHow stupid am I, I just sudo rebooted from remote, and forgot i dont have the riser card installed, so now I cant even log back in till I hook up a keyboard and monitor then hit ctrl+d to get passed the prompt, ouch01:09
crimsunif you spend SO much time whining about the default backdrop, you REALLY need to get out more.01:09
Stormx2I don't like the startup sound either01:09
BlueSwirland i like os x01:09
Stormx2does that piss other people off either?01:09
WarboDekkard: Black is the new black. DarkAlloy's backgrounds are the best01:10
crimsunsame goes for any default in Ubuntu.01:10
rukuarticStormx2: Meh... startup is fine...01:10
arrickand to top it all off, I am 20 miles from the server01:10
rukuarticBut the wallpaper does look dumb01:10
rukuarticAnd I'm not usually one to complain.01:10
rukuarticbut hey, thats why you can pick and choose01:10
DekkardWarbo:  not according to my bi.. i mean wife01:10
trainstrokeranyone have an mtp device setup?01:10
ubu_newrukuartic, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop is not working as well01:10
Stormx2Its like you get that noise when your speakers are half plugged in. And then they pulsed the volume in and out and made a monkey play a keyboard in the top octave01:10
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rukuarticor just use windows 800x600 default wallpaper if you must01:10
rukuarticubu_new: What are you doing this from, console?01:10
Stormx2I thought windows doesn't have a default wallpaper?01:11
mcphailDoes anyone remember the package which gave you new naked ubuntu people on your desktop every month?01:11
rukuarticFrom what it comes with at boot Stormx201:11
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ubu_newrukuartic, yes I just finished the installtion01:11
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BlueSwirlsurely it's that rolling green grass thing on windows?01:11
Stormx2It just starts off in that sea-water-with-too-much-polution colour01:11
arrickStormx2, yeah it has rolling hills default01:11
ubu_newand now I am on the console01:11
BlueSwirli use this on my ubuntu machine: http://art.ubuntu.com/backgrounds/ubuntu/9401:11
rukuarticubu_new: Try ctrl+alt+f7... whats it give you?01:11
Matthewvmcphail, don't remember it, but that was ubuntu-calendar01:11
rukuarticubu_new: Because it should be installed by default01:11
Stormx2arrick: XP?01:11
arrickyep01:11
Stormx2Ah01:11
akcomHow would I go about browsing/downloading files from my bluetooth enabled phone if I already have the gnome-bluetooth package installed? (more interested in browsing the files on the phone)01:11
Stormx2I've never installed XP01:11
ubu_newrukuartic, nothing01:11
Stormx2I'm practicly a hacker already01:11
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rukuarticubu_new: how old is your computer?01:12
arrickStormx2, about like installing ubuntu default01:12
ubu_newrukuartic, but I can still write in the console01:12
ubu_newnot old01:12
ubu_newnot so old01:12
ubu_newnot sure01:12
rukuarticubu_new: Does it have a graphics card?01:12
ubu_newyes01:12
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Apostle^akcom: you need the obex client01:12
ubu_newthe live cd worked01:12
rukuarticubu_new: Integrated?01:12
ubu_newrukuartic, yes01:12
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rukuarticOh... thats odd. What'd you do, a server install or something?01:13
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rukuarticubu_new: Whats the problem when you go sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?01:13
ubu_newrukuartic, the live cd worked after I did sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop01:13
Apostle^akcom: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75978&highlight=plantronics+m250001:13
akcomthank you01:13
ubu_newrukuartic, it writes few lines but the last line is e: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually....01:14
spariticus_rexWhat's with these wiered "Notices" about spamming?01:14
Apostle^spariticus_rex: they are what they say they are.01:14
ubu_newrukuartic, seems like bad news :(01:14
Stormx2I mean I really have propriety software... I'm a programmer and it annoys the hell out of me when people keep their code all locked up. Problem is, as free as ubuntu is, it has an awesome-cool millionare from space funding it. But what if we did fix bug #1? Microsoft lose their market share... It just makes things worse for smaller companies who say, want to make a game. It would be unholy for us to use one of these games, but progr01:14
Stormx2ammers need money, so you need to have a lot of funding to even get it off the ground.01:14
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spariticus_rexApostle^: but they don't make sense01:15
Apostle^what is an eft01:15
ubu_newrukuartic, so to run dpkg manually?01:15
mcphailDoes anyone know how to add new locations to the "Places" menu in Breezy?01:15
Stormx2Real open-source games can't make a profit, and if they can't design for an audience which accepts propriety software, then where's the money? :P01:15
Stormx2No one is listening  Oh well. Ill go learn C heh01:16
Apostle^ahh a newt01:16
BlueSwirllet us know how that goes01:16
FlannelKingStormx2: OS games can make money01:16
dj-fuHow do you do those wongtong smiley faces01:16
Apostle^so a badger, a drake and a newt01:16
Apostle^WONGTONG01:16
Apostle^lmfao01:16
rukuarticubu_new: Sure... I suppose. Thats a really weird problem...01:16
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Stormx2FlannelKing: How?01:16
FlannelKingStormx2: not from support contracts, but there are other ways.01:16
akonkwaHow can I copy files from a remote server using a terminal based ssh, to a directory on my computer?01:16
rukuarticAnd whats "Hoary" mean?01:16
Apostle^hedgehog01:16
dj-fuhoary is like stink01:16
ubu_newrukuartic, can you please tell me what to write?01:16
TrentWhat is the ubuntu online apt repository?01:16
Stormx2like a whore01:16
WarboStormx2: There are relatively few new games these days anyway. It is not the programmers who do most of the work, it is the graphics artists who rebrand the same engines over and over01:16
mcphailakonkwa: sftp01:16
rukuarticakonkwa: scp or putty-scp01:16
FlannelKingStormx2: donations, um, selling in-game items or whatever, depends on the genre, there are plenty of clever ways01:17
dj-fuStormx2: how do you do that japanese smiley face01:17
BlueSwirlhoary (noun); the act of being hoar like01:17
rukuarticubu_new: Once you find the package, should be "dpkg -i package-name.deb01:17
Stormx2dj-fu: Its a replace thing. it relaced :-) except without the -01:17
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spariticus_rex:)01:17
dj-fuoh, in xchat?01:17
arrickyeah Stormx2 how o you do that?01:17
akonkwamcphail, rukuartic , could you be more specific?01:17
ubu_newrukuartic, I am new here and have no idea how to find the package01:17
Stormx2dj-fu: Yeah01:17
dj-fuah. do. using IRSSI01:17
TrentWhat is the ubuntu online apt binaries?01:18
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Trentare*01:18
rukuarticubu_new: Should be on the CD... you could try "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" or even "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"01:18
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TrentWhere** >.<01:18
facugaichStormx2, may I ask what are your projects? I joined this conversation too late01:18
mcphailsftp user@host:directory/01:18
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rukuarticTrent: Repositories?01:18
TrentYes.01:18
Stormx2facugaich: What do you mean?01:18
Stormx2facugaich: I work on some websites o.O when i feel like it01:18
TrentThat's what I had said first, but I thought I said sometwhing wrong.01:18
dj-fuStormx2, which plugin is it?01:18
facugaichStormx2, I guessed you wanted to make a game01:18
facugaichI was wrong lol01:19
BlueSwirlright, i'm off to try the xubuntu install beta01:19
Xardasgood night01:19
Stormx2facugaich: Well I used to make games01:19
Stormx2Not very good ones, very retro01:19
facugaichstromx2, yeah, mine too01:19
Stormx2Pong, Worms, etc.01:19
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WarboStormx2: I'm in favor of selling 1 game (say Doom3) then every rip-off skin for it should be available as an "add on" as well as stand alone. Then you don't buy the same stuff you already have, just the extras that new games offer. This probably wouldn't work on consoles though, and that is where the real money is01:19
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Stormx2And to be honest xbox is already cracked. I've got linux on my xbox01:20
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Stormx2its only a matter of time before the 360's firmware is figured out.01:20
Stormx2Still, I'm saving for a rev <3<3<301:20
WarboStormx2: The only software I have payed for on my machine is Gish, and that didn't work for ages, then I had registration issues, then I got it working. I played it (VERY good) but now it doesn't work any more01:21
Trentrukuartic, Do you know the online repositories?01:21
Stormx2Well01:21
Stormx2Microsoft gave my dad a Windows 2000 BETA cd01:21
WarboStromx2: Now the moral is: You need a standard system for games (consoles)01:21
rukuartic!repositories01:21
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource01:21
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mcphailWarbo: most of the open source games using the various iterations of the Quake engine haven't been as good as the commercial offerings01:22
axemen|ThomasAny helpful souls out there (yes i am a noob) ?01:22
Stormx2The few things I think windows beats linux at is 1) Graphics Applications (I *HATE* The Gimp) and 2) Soldat01:22
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spariticus_rexaxemen|Thomas: what's your problem?01:22
=== facugaich feels the same as Stormx2 about the Gimp
dj-fugimp rocks01:23
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dj-fujust takes a little gettin used to01:23
FlannelKingStormx2: it's only a matter of critical mass, before adobe releases PS for linux01:23
axemen|Thomasspariticus_rex: well, installed ubuntu today, and i tried to install Wine. I am almost 100% sure ive set the repositorys correct, but still apt-get install wine will not work01:23
dj-fuand the keyboard shortcuts are different01:23
PhlostenStormx2, do you hate the gimp because it cant do things, or because you don't know how to do things with it01:23
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: "sudo apt-cache search wine" find the package you want "sudo apt-get install packagename"01:23
Warbomcphial: I agree that many new games are cool and add new features, but if they all use the same engine then you shouldn't have to pay for it over and over. Also, open-source games are ok for working on Linux systems (if quite bad generally) but you PAY for a linux game and it doesn't bloody work, because the distro maker can't tweak it01:23
Phlosteni love the gimp01:23
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: The package name isn't "wine"01:23
Stormx2I mean I'm a web designer... its just so... utterly useless... and unnatural... I mean its got enough effects its just the tools... it lacks the simplicity of Paint Shop Pro 7 and the professionalism of Photoshop 701:23
arrickhey Stormx2 check out http://www.wikixbox360.com/page/Modding+FAQ?gclid=CMOXsI6PuoQCFRuKIgodZSLE_Q01:23
Phlostenits all i use now01:23
facugaichI hate it because the fact there's no polygon tool01:23
eggzeckI can do lots with Gimp, and knowing PS helps01:23
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jcoleare there any plans to update dri/drm in ubuntu dapper? it's more than 2 years old01:24
akcomApostle^, using konqueror and kbluetoothd did not work for me, where can I get the obex client?01:24
Stormx2I've only softmodded my xbox. Set me back about 15 but it was worth it. Free games!! XD01:24
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tritiumStormx2: I hope you're not talking about warez in this channel...01:24
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: could it be "xwine - graphical user interface for the WINE emulator01:25
axemen|Thomas" ?01:25
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Stormx2tritium: Of course not.01:25
rukuarticStormx2: Geez psp is awful01:25
WarboStormx2: I hate PSP so much. I haven't used PhotoShop in years so I can't comment01:25
jcole$ dmesg | grep drm | grep minor01:25
jcole[4294689.335000]  [drm]  Initialized i915 1.1.0 20040405 on minor 0:01:25
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Thats one of them01:25
jcole2004!01:25
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Roger_The_Bum_I need a bit of help01:25
tritiumGood.  Please take the gaming discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic01:25
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FlannelKingRoger_The_Bum_: just ask01:25
Roger_The_Bum_I need root access01:25
Roger_The_Bum_or at least know how01:26
FlannelKing!tell Roger_The_Bum_ about root01:26
dj-smileeis i2o support dodgy in linux full stop?01:26
Roger_The_Bum_in dapper flight 501:26
bimberiRoger_The_Bum_: 'sudo -i' in a terminal01:26
Roger_The_Bum_and sudo su isn't working for me01:26
Stormx2I really hated Paint Shop Pro 8... They lost it on that one. But I do like PSP 7. it feels very lightweight and effortless to be, very intuitive. It lacks a lot of the features of photoshop but I can have 100 images open in PSP and have no slowdowns...01:26
Roger_The_Bum_-i?01:26
mcphailDoes anyone know how to change the locations in the "Places" menu?01:26
WarboRoger_The_Bum_: What do you want to do as root? sudo -i or sudo -s -H01:26
Stormx2Oh sorry01:26
bimberiRoger_The_Bum_: gets you a root shell01:26
Stormx2I'll got to #ubuntu-offtopic01:26
PhlostenPSP is excellent for moderate graphics users01:26
Roger_The_Bum_so does sudo su01:27
Stormx2Which is basicly me.01:27
Roger_The_Bum_what does -i do specifically01:27
Roger_The_Bum_any difference?01:27
rukuarticwell I heard sudo -i is better than sudo su01:27
Roger_The_Bum_ok01:27
WarboStormx2: PSP 5 was the best, but I am now addicted to the ease of Layers and translucency in GIMP01:27
Roger_The_Bum_I'll see01:27
rukuarticI think sudo su changes some system variables01:27
bimberiRoger_The_Bum_: -i (simulate initial login) option runs the shell specified in the passwd(5) entry of the user that the command is being run as.01:27
jcoleis anyone else here running dapper? what year is your dri/drm? run "dmesg | grep drm | grep minor"01:27
Roger_The_Bum_I'm running this in vmware01:28
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Roger_The_Bum_I'm trying to install vmware tools01:28
tritiumjcole: please ask in #ubuntu+101:28
Stormx2Maybe I'm just not used to the gimp. But in webdesign, a lot of stuff is precision. Like, pixel-by-pixel cropping and stuff... and i just down like the gimp for it. It feels like I have a gun on a long pole, and I'm trying to aim for a target 200 yards away. I can do it, it will just take me a while01:28
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axemen|Thomasrukuartic: well, i basically just find 4 packages related to wine, xwine, libwine-dev, libwine and wine-doc01:29
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Well then try "sudo apt-get install wine"01:29
akonkwaHow do I start X  from a remote server01:29
rukuarticakonkwa: startx?01:29
JinkgunsI can't wait for Dapper. ;>01:29
rukuarticNeither can I! :P01:29
Stormx2Jinkguns: And XGL!01:29
WarboStormx2: I do everything with PNGs and I despise GIFs. However, I think of PSP whenever I think of GIFs, so it must be OK for web design01:29
rukuarticBah... XGL is just gonna be windows vista01:30
Roger_The_Bum_still not working01:30
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: thats what ive been trying, but then i get that the package is obsoloete, not available, reffered from another pacakge etc etc.01:30
akcomDoes anyone know if I need some aditional package to make konqueror work with sdp:// & bluetooth:/ requests?01:30
rukuarticGif can be ok if you get your pallats right01:30
Roger_The_Bum_Unable to copy the source file ./installer/services.sh to the destination file01:30
akonkwarukuartic,  I get the error server already running!! but I don't see any windows :-s01:30
Roger_The_Bum_/etc/init.d/vmware-tools.01:30
FlannelKingaxemen|Thomas: you might need to reload your packages01:30
Roger_The_Bum_hang on a sec01:30
axemen|ThomasFlannelKing: done that, like a million times :)01:30
Stormx2Warbo: I'm JPG all the way01:30
trainstrokeranyone get an mtp device working with linux. im trying to get my Zen Vision :M working01:30
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Well if its obsolete... mmm... just use it anyways. Unless you wanna install it yourself...01:30
rukuartictrainstroker: moto4lin?01:30
Warborukuartic: I just despise the idea of "ANIMATION!" and it's 2 frames. Grrrr...01:30
akcomI keep on getting a "malformed URL error"01:30
Stormx2Warbo: I use gifs for animation, and pngs for higher-quality large graphics01:30
rukuarticWarbo: Bah...01:31
JinkgunsXGL?01:31
Stormx2XGL is so cool01:31
Stormx2!xgl01:31
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/01:31
WarboStormx2: JPG leaves artifacts, and since modt of my image manipulation involves cutting up other images this is very annoying01:31
Stormx2http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/ thats the link you want01:31
rukuarticEww novell...01:31
Stormx2Warbo: Artifacts?01:31
facugaichwhat's that command to re-configure Xorg? something like "apt-get ..."01:32
stpereI've been struggling with the linux novell client for 2 days at work :-)01:32
Stormx2yeah but xgl is like women for your average nerd01:32
stpereI wonder if I could get it to work on ubuntu..01:32
Stormx2Ooh dapper got slashdotted01:32
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Stormx23rd time this week I think01:32
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Stormx2Eat that gentoo01:33
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WarboStormx2: Put a white background and draw a diagonal black line. Save it as jpeg at less than 100% quality. Close it, then open it and zoom in. Not only is it all blurry, but is is also using 16777216 colours!01:33
tritiumStormx2: artifacts from the DCT performed on 8x8 blocks of pixels, and the subsequent compression01:33
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AskHLHello, if I use gksudo python <anything> then it complains that about 'no such file or directory'. However I can run python with files using regular sudo. What's going on here?01:33
Stormx2Warbo: True that01:33
ENE|Toxicxdm only flickers and kicks me back to console upon launch, and it leaves me with no error messages either. Have anyone experienced this problem ?01:33
tritiumWarbo: work in a non-lossy format, and only save to a lossy one at the end, to avoid further image degradation01:34
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MathmanENE|Toxic: you mean it won't even let you try and log in?  you sure it's xdm?  not gdm or something?01:34
WarboStormx2: Also, if you like ahving loads of colours then 3D Studio Max 5 (the free trial I got with dWorld ages ago) can render to 48 trillion colour PNGs01:34
ENE|ToxicMathman: yup that's exactly what I mean. Yes, I'm really really sure it's xdm.01:34
rukuarticStormx2: Yes! Now I can take my desktop and turn it into a spinning cube01:34
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MathmanENE|Toxic: have you looked at /var/log/xorg.log or whatever?01:35
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WarboAskHL: Are you sure gksudo can give options to programs?01:35
ENE|ToxicMathman: startx and all works fine, but xdm doesn't seem to work at all. I've been looking at X.org.0.log, but I found no obvioius errors there ... Or no errors at all01:35
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tritiumWarbo: that would be silly, since most displays are only 24-bit01:35
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taigeRI have a CD that I burn in WinXP a long time ago with .iso files and when I insert it in ubuntu, it doesn't read it01:36
taigeRwhat could be wrong?01:36
AskHLWarbo, I discovered the error when running a command as specified from the easyubuntu webpage, so I suppose it 'generally' should work01:36
MathmanENE|Toxic: yeah, I guess you maybe wouldn't if X works normally.01:36
rukuartictaigeR: Close the cd? Mount the CD?01:36
MathmanENE|Toxic: dunno.  why xdm is what I'd wonder though?01:36
taigeRrukuartic, i just want to copy that CD01:36
Stormx2Yeah... 48 trillion? you'd still see the same colours01:36
taigeRbut i can't even see the content of the DVD01:37
facugaichguys, how to re-configure Xorg?01:37
AskHLWarbo, I could run 'sudo su' and launch the script from there, but that's probably the thing gksudo exists in order to prevent.01:37
tritiumfacugaich: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:37
mcphaildpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:37
Warbotritium: I know, but I still found it cool. Also in open formats you can add crazy stuff like "brightness" per pixel, making an image of the sun different from an image of some paper when it comes to animation.01:37
ENE|ToxicMathman: Yeah I find that strange as well .. Whm, xdm is lightweight and doesn't allocate alot of memory in the background and all. I'm using ubuntu-server install with fluxbox :)01:37
tritiumAskHL: sudo -i01:37
facugaichthank you01:37
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WarboAskHL: I never use gksudo myself you see, just sudo, that's why it was a question not a statement01:38
AskHLtritium, thank you, that did it.01:38
mcphailAskHL: have you tried gksudo python /full/path/to/file ?01:39
taigeRrukuartic, what do you say?01:39
AskHLWarbo, all right01:39
AskHLmcphail, I had tried that, too, yes01:39
akonkwadoes anyone know where I can find my ssh configuration file?01:39
MathmanENE|Toxic: I'd imagine you could run xdm from the command line, same as startx and all.  maybe try that and see if it spits out any errors.  Course you'll need to run X first too.  maybe just throw xdm in roots .xinitrc and run xinit?  actually I'm kinda unsure how you'd go about running it, I just figure it's possible.01:39
rukuarticakonkwa: /etc?01:39
akonkwassh01:39
bimberiakonkwa: /etc/ssh01:39
AskHL(and I have tested on more than one file)01:39
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taigeRi can't see the content of my DVD01:39
taigeRcould it be because it was burn in nero under WinX?01:40
AngryElfdoes anyone in here use lirc + mythtv?01:40
taigeRWinXP i mean01:40
akonkwarukuartic,  bimberi , thanx01:40
AskHLAnyway, thanks for the help01:40
bimberiakonkwa: yw :)01:40
ENE|ToxicMathman: well I tried starting xdm from terminal, but I get the same behavior, a flicker to X (x as in background with a terminal, not a login-screen) for 1ms and then back without any error.01:41
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WarbotaigeR: Removable media like DVDs are the best standards compliant things you get. The only reason you mught not be able to see it after writing it on Wiondows is because Nero screwed the disc01:41
mcphailENE|Toxic: does sudo /etc/init.d/xdm restart return an error?01:41
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ENE|Toxicmcphail: hmm, start didn't, wait a sec and I'll see with restart01:41
Klick_Anyone here been able to figure out how to make thunderbird open URL's nothing happens when i click them, I have FF installed and in gnome i told it to be my perfered app01:42
humboltwhat can cause my dapper to loose the wireless connection every 60 seconds. just long enough for my skype session being lost and my downloads being dropped?01:42
rukuarticusing the wrong driver with ndiswrapper?01:42
Klick_syslog say anything?01:43
humbolti have ipw2200 on a vaio with dapper01:43
humboltsyslog and dmesg dont say anything01:43
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humboltand NetworkManager does not seem to complain either.01:43
akonkwaIs there a way to load a graphical filebrowser from a unix server? (I already have it forwading X11)01:43
ltR20does anyone know how to get firefox working with flash01:44
ltR20i don't hear anysound in flash01:44
humboltHowever, my downloads are dropped and my skype connection lost01:44
rukuarticltR20: Go download aoss and run "aoss firefox"01:44
mcphailakonkwa: just type ssh:address to the address bar in nautilus on the local machine01:44
ltR20what's the apt-get ?01:44
ltR20apt-get install aoss?01:44
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: could the reason be that im running amd64 ubuntu? (yes, im still a noob :) )01:44
humboltmy ssh connections keep on dieing as well!01:44
Mathmanakonkwa: depends on the unix server as to what it would have on it.01:45
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Haha... what, on a 686 or something?01:45
humboltbut they are a little more stable01:45
humboltanybody any idea?01:45
naliothhumbolt: ask in #ubuntu+1 for dapper stuff, please01:45
tritiumhumbolt: my ipw2200 works well01:45
ENE|Toxicmcphail: yeah, "xdm not running (/var/run/xdm.pid not found)"01:45
akonkwamcphail,  where can I find the address bar?01:45
Warboakonkwa: ctrl-l I think01:46
humboltnalioth: tritium: did have the problem in breezy either.01:46
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humboltmight be related to some package I installed.01:46
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: no, but i just downloaded an older package from their website, and tried dpkg -i and got "package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)"01:46
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: my first day of linux.. ehehe01:46
mcphailakonkwa: (actually it is "ssh://address")01:46
MathmanENE|Toxic: touch /var/run/xdm.pid?  check if /var/run exists?01:46
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Haha... might want to update... its ok. Good for you for trying01:47
humboltI did not have this problem at first01:47
facugaichhow often are repos updated?01:47
akonkwamcphail,  I can't seem to find the address bar01:47
akonkwamcphail,  where is it?01:47
Mathmanakonkwa: did you try control l like someone was telling ya?01:47
mcphailakonkwa: it depend on how you have nautilus set up. ctrl-l might work01:48
akonkwamcphail,  yes01:48
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: i just downloaded the previous version actually..01:48
akonkwamcphail,  it doesnt work01:48
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Warbofacugaich: There is usually a few packages updated per week at least (less activity now Dapper is so close) and Dapper has huge updates of everything every few days01:48
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ENE|ToxicMathman: Well that fixed the error message, still won't start though. Just says "stoppding xdm, starting xdm" with no errors. ..01:48
facugaichI see, Warbo, thank you01:48
|GBH|just installed Ubuntu server and have 2 issues. First is /var/log/messages is in an unreadable format and second is my network config isn't working (though the second I might be able to fix myself if the first one was sorted)01:49
|GBH|anyone help me please? :)01:49
mcphailakonkwa: i use nautilus in "browser" mode. I can't remeber the setting in spatial etc01:49
akonkwamcphail,  ok i found it :-)01:49
mcphailakonkwa: :)01:49
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ltR20rukartic how do i play movies?01:50
ltR20quicktime,mpg,wmv etc01:50
ltR20in firefox01:50
rukuartic!restrictedformats01:51
MathmanENE|Toxic: you could have a look at what that script is doing and try and do it manually and see if any errors get spit out.01:51
ubotuI guess restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats01:51
rukuartic!wmv01:51
rinnor1is automatix worth it to upgrade firefox and other stuff01:51
uboturestricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats01:51
akonkwamcphail,  all right, i'm almost there, but what do I do if my login on the server is different than my login on my local machine?01:51
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rukuarticrinnor1: Apparently, friends don't let friends do automatix :P01:51
mcphailakonkwa: ssh:''user@host01:51
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mcphailakonkwa: ssh://user@host01:51
ENE|ToxicMathman: yeah that's an option, I'll probably have a look at it tomorrow, need to get some sleep. Thx for the help01:51
akonkwamcphail,  thanx01:51
Warborinnor1: no01:51
mcphailakonkwa: np01:51
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rinnor1But to upgrade firefox from 1.0.7 to 1.5.2, I will need to follow about 5 steps in the wiki to add some links, etc.  Correct?01:52
rinnor1not a big problem01:52
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rukuarticyea01:53
rukuarticthere ya go rinnor101:53
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rukuarticdapper'll have all those nasty problems fixed.01:53
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rinnor1looking forward to Dapper.  Of course, the better it works, the less I'll learn ;)01:54
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axemen|Thomasexcuse me, but what is Dapper?01:54
rukuarticrinnor1: You learn more by reading and looking for answers by yourself01:54
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beerockxsthe next ubuntu release axemen|Thomas01:54
hadixhi all01:54
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Next release of ubuntu. We go by code names01:54
FlannelKingaxemen|Thomas: dapper is the next version of ubuntu.01:54
rinnor1axemen|Thomas, next release of Ubuntu01:54
DewDudeDapper is the name of the next release of Ubuntu01:54
axemen|Thomasaha!01:54
axemen|Thomasthanks :)01:54
rukuarticHaha01:54
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|GBH|no one able to help with my problems then? :)01:54
DewDuderinnor1, i'm running the dev-build of Dapper..and it's been nice01:55
hadix how can I adjust my monitor on 1280x800 pixels (15.4 wide screen)01:55
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Right now its Breezy Badger, was Hoary Hedgehog and a few other things01:55
FlannelKingWArty warthog01:55
facugaich|GBH|, why is messages in unreadable format? what did you use to see it?01:55
DewDudeahhh...Warty..the first ubuntu distro i installed01:55
FlannelKingaxemen|Thomas: Dapper Drake is 6.06, the current version (Breezy) is 5.1001:55
axemen|Thomasi see01:55
FlannelKingDewDude: that's ebcause it was the first Ubuntu ;)01:56
rukuartichadix: gnome-display-properties I think01:56
|GBH|standard grep/tail/cat01:56
|GBH|all I get is a fair stack of hex01:56
axemen|Thomasgod im tired, spent all day trying to figure out this linux stuff. Managed to change resolution and refresh rate, get mp3s working, and divx (but with no sound)... :)01:56
|GBH|I'm used to Redhat/Mandrake and usually I just grep/cat/tail to my hearts content01:57
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Goooooood :P That took me forever.01:57
facugaich|GBH|, I see, then I don't know about that, sorry01:57
rukuartic|GBH|: What do you mean you get a hext dump O_o;; thats really weird01:57
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rukuartic|GBH|: using bash?01:57
|GBH|well yes that was my thoughts ;)01:57
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: really good documentation to be found on the net actually. But this wine problem vexes me abit.01:57
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: ive followed the instructions 100%, but.. hmm01:58
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Try going to www.winehq.org01:58
DewDudeaxemen|Thomas, just don't give up...Ubuntu is a good distro to learn on.01:58
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: They have their own ubuntu repository for wine01:58
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facugaich|GBH|, did you try "see text/plain:[file] "?01:58
|GBH|i's an absolute virgin install of Ubuntu - typing server at the prompt for install. Networking isn't working for some reason so I got to messages to look and I get this01:58
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: ive been living on that site for the last 3 hours :)01:58
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rukuartic|GBH|: They figure that since you're a server admin, you can read hex like english :P01:59
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: yeah, i added the repository in the SPM and updated, no wine package found, then i added it "manually" in the /etc/apt/sources list and did apt-get update, but still.. arf.01:59
|GBH|basically each line is of the format [0000000.000000]  000: 00000000 // 00000000 0000000000 000000000 // 000000000 00000000 000000000 // 00000000 0000000000 000000000 // 000000000 00000000 00000000001:59
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mcphailDoes anyone know how to change the locations in the "Places" menu?01:59
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: You could try just going to bulid your own from source01:59
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rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: It really doesn't matter if you use an older version01:59
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: i even tried that, but then i got some kind of compiling error, and to try to fix that is way beyond me yet01:59
ltR20!tell ltr20 about restrictedformats02:00
ltR20!tell ltr20 about restricted formats02:00
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: What error didja get?02:00
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axemen|Thomasrukuartic: 2 secs02:00
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|GBH|nopthing on the net I could find with the same error, no one with the same problems in here. Ho hum :(02:01
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: ill PM it to you, its abit spammy for the general chat02:02
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mcphail|GBH|: sounds like a problem with locales???02:02
Shadymanhey guys02:02
Warbohey02:02
|GBH|shouldn't be, everything is fully English afaik02:03
ShadymanI'm having a fun little message on boot, says 0 logical volumes in volume group, and drops to shell02:03
|GBH|took English as all the locales02:03
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Pastebin.org?02:03
rukuartic:P02:03
|GBH|typing is perfect and nothing else seems to be incorrect02:03
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: oh.. hmm02:04
|GBH|it's an idea though02:04
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Its ok02:04
rukuarticDo you have build-essential installed axemen|Thomas ?02:04
WarboShadyman : Are you using logical volumes02:04
Shadymanwarbo: Yes.02:04
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: i think so, i installed the stuff they told me to in the howto02:04
mcphail|GBH|: does it display like that from the console as well as x/gnome/whateverterm?02:04
Shadymanwarbo: my windows is /dev/hda1, boot is /dev/hda2 as i recall, and then i have a logical volume for the rest02:05
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leagrisgood night all02:05
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: i quote from their website "instead of running apt-get install wine run 'apt-get build-dep wine'. This will download the needed development packages for your system to make the wine package."02:05
|GBH|this is server, there is no GUI ;)02:05
|GBH|everything I do is console02:05
mcphailaah02:05
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Ok, open a command prompt, type "dpkg -l | grep build02:05
mcphailyou running screen?02:05
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|GBH|:q!02:06
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: That lists all the packages you have installed on your system, but searches for ones that have "build"02:06
|GBH|lol02:06
|GBH|oops02:06
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|GBH|nope this is direct into the console via a directly connected keyboard/screen02:06
WarboShadyman: Sounds like my old Fedora system. Is the root= bit of your kernel line in GRUB pointing to /dev/mapper/Group-Volume or /dev/Group/Volume?02:06
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Shadymanwarbo: /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol0002:07
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axemen|Thomasrukuartic: http://pastebin.com/67043702:08
WarboShadyman: Hmmm. (I had problems occasionally with /dev/Chris/Root but never /dev/mapper/Chris-Root)02:08
ShadymanWarbo: Maybe it's jealous that I went back to using Windows.02:08
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Great, you have the needed programs02:08
ts20_5m0k3I wonder why I can't remove acx_pci02:08
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Go to winehq.com, download the source for the latest stable. We're gonna compile it.02:08
ShadymanWarbo: The only thing in /dev/mapper is "control"02:08
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Shadymanwtf?02:09
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_jason!ops02:09
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ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee02:09
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Shadyman+spam02:09
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FlannelKing+R ubugtu +R!02:09
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rukuarticWhoooop... that sucks...02:09
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Shadymanyep02:10
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FlannelKingoh, no... it's just that theyre identified now02:10
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rukuarticMaybe we should join #fazlamesai and start pasting #ubuntu02:10
WarboShadyman: It sounds like you either have no LVM module in your initrd, or you have no Volumes in your Group (obviously wrong)02:10
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AmaranthUbugtu: Die.02:10
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: i did apt-get source wine, is that correct?02:10
ITSa341lol  this seems to be MUCH better     LOL02:10
Amaranthnalioth: only one guy02:10
naliothrukuartic: NO. this is a smear attempt on that channel, they are not involved02:10
FlannelKingrukuartic: read your notices02:10
rukuarticnalioth: Oh... whoops!02:10
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rukuarticnalioth: I was making a poor joke =\02:11
ShadymanWarbu: well, on load it says I have hda, at least. I Guess that's a good thing.02:11
FlannelKingnalioth: +R seems to be useless now, buggers.02:11
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naliothFlannelKing: that was a channel member being funny, i believe.02:11
naliothFlannelKing: not a real spambot02:11
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Nope... go actually download the .tar.gz file02:11
ITSa341Good evening I have a simple question     Can I safely share one /home partition between Ubuntu 5.1, Dapper Drake and Xandros? Or is this a very bad idea?02:11
WarboShadyman: You haven't been messing around trying to load lvm1 and lvm2 at the same time have you? (they conflict)02:11
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: roger that02:11
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FlannelKingnalioth: I don't believe so.  I think I've seen sop before.  but, could be.02:11
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rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Yep :)02:12
ShadymanWarbo: I'll admit I don't know what that means. So I guess it's a no.02:12
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WarboShadyman: Oh, you wouldn't have then. (lvm is Logical Volume Manager and versions 1 and 2 cannot be used at the same time)02:12
OrTigaShi02:12
ShadymanWarbo: I figured as much, but hey ;)02:12
ltR20how do i play .avi files in ubuntu02:13
ltR20i downloaded the w32 codecs and they still dont play02:13
ShadymanWarbo: The biggest crying shame is I just got everything working fine.02:13
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ShadymanWarbo: Wireless, ACPI, etc.02:13
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: could  wine-0.9.12.tar.bz2 be the correct one?02:13
keleushi all... anyone know what to do about this?02:13
keleushttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2: MD5Sum mismatch02:13
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rukuarticshould be axemen|Thomas02:13
Shadymankeleus: Re-download it?02:13
keleuswhen i try to update my package list02:13
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rukuartickeleus: sudo apt-cache clear I think...02:14
Shadymankeleus: Oh.02:14
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_jasonubotu: tell ltR20 about multimedia02:14
rukuartickeleus: sudo apt-get clean actually02:14
benji_123456789when is dapper realeased again?02:14
WarboShadyman: Well, are you sure they are set up correctly? Have you accessed them before from a regular boot up (not just after installation)? I had no problems with LVM on Breezy with my Home spread accross 2 drives (until one failed and took the other with it)02:14
ShadymanWarbo: I've used it for months.02:14
bimberibenji_123456789: june 102:14
WarboShadyman: Hmmmm. Done a kernel upgrade recently?02:14
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ShadymanWarbo: Just, I haven't used it for a month or so, and I tried to boot, and it didnt work.02:15
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ITSa341Can I safely share one /home partition between Ubuntu 5.1, Dapper Drake and Xandros? Or is this a very bad idea?02:15
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_jason!ops02:15
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee02:15
ITSa341lol  here we go again02:15
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_jasonSeveas: bot needs to be fixed :)02:15
Amaranth*sigh*02:15
DBOhmmm, it seems they are registering now...02:15
ShadymanWarbo: I'm on 2.6.12-1002:15
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AmaranthDBO: n= means not identified02:15
keleuswtf was that zaxc02:15
FlannelKingITSa341: the only problem I can see is the init scripts, all the data is fine, since it's just that, data.02:15
amphiITSa341: should be ok - if program versions are very different, some dotfiles might get clobbered02:15
ShadymanWarbo: Omg.02:15
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ITSa341I really feel for you guys trying to find a way to stop that and appreciate your efforts02:16
nalioth_jason: already on it02:16
WarboShadyman: I think it is to do with the initrd file on /boot, which only gets changed when you upgrade your kernel02:16
ShadymanWarbo: One of my boot options worked.02:16
DBOAmaranth, then why isnt +r working again?02:16
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: ok, all downloaded02:16
naliothDBO: it doesnt work on registered users02:16
Amaranth+r is registered channel, iirc02:16
FlannelKing+R not +r02:16
ShadymanWarbo: I guess that means I get to clean out the initrd file ;)02:16
Amaranthoh, that's a different ircd02:16
Amaranthbut yeah, we want +R02:16
OrTigaShi02:16
ITSa341amphi and FlannelKing,  ty for your help02:16
WarboShadyman: Can you read binary?02:16
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ShadymanWarbo: 01101001?02:16
WarboShadyman: No, 000011101010, you fool02:17
keleusthanks,  got it working02:17
ShadymanWarbo: Obviously.02:17
ShadymanWarbo: Now all I have to do is copy over a DHCP3 folder from my other ubuntu box to get dhcp again.. Don't ask02:18
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rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Great. open up a prompt, and "tar -xjf wine...."02:18
WarboShadyman: Seriously though, it is a compressed filesystem image which contains basic kernel drivers to access your root partition (where the rest are stored). So are you saying it's working?02:18
ShadymanWarbo: No, I was thinking of the wrong file.02:18
rukuarticjust finish off the filename. if you type "wine" and hit the TAB key it should finish the filename for ou02:18
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: done02:18
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rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Seroius? O_O that was... ...fast!02:19
ITSa341Warbo  you would have loved the background of my old website. I took a screensaver from the Matrix and replaced their code with binary code of our business name02:19
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Ok, switch to the new directory and type "./configure" (the ./ is really important)02:19
amphirukuartic: heh02:19
rukuarticamphi: "Hey this is taking like... five days... whats wrong?"02:20
King-of-no-pantsamphi: you said I could msg yesterday... oh well.02:20
amphiKing-of-no-pants: you rang?02:20
WarboShadyman: Do you have any Live CDs that have LVM support? (Ubuntu Live does, but I think you have to run all of the commands yourself (for mounting and stuff)) See if that detects your system. If not then something's wrong with the Logical Volume02:20
King-of-no-pants amphi: yes, turns out I registered this name a month ago02:20
King-of-no-pantsamphi: I just forgot02:20
amphiKing-of-no-pants: no worries02:20
WarboITSa341: I'd hate it. I'm barely scratching the surface of Python at the moment, let alone binary!02:20
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: http://pastebin.com/67045702:20
King-of-no-pantsamphi: anyways, How long should a memtest take to complete?02:21
ltR20_jason you there?02:21
_jasonltR20: yeah02:21
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: This'll take a moment... and "make" will take longer... in the background, put in "apt-get install checkinstall"02:21
ltR20I installed all those plugins and the movie still wont play.02:21
ShadymanWarbo: I got one of the boot options to work, though not the latest.02:21
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_jasonltR20: what type of movie? what player? what exactly happens?02:21
DBOKing-of-no-pants, as long as you are willing to give it, the longer the better, overnight is a standard run02:21
ltR20I had to do this 2 weeks ago to but i forgot what you said.. i reinstalled ubuntu yesturday02:21
ltR20It's totem movie player, avi.02:21
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: i got that same error again :(02:21
amphiKing-of-no-pants: AFAIR it can take a long time - when I got a 1GB upgrade I think I ran it for 18 hours or so02:21
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: if you check the pastebin thingie02:21
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Oh, sudo apt-get install gcc I think..02:21
ltR20"totem could not play "...asdad.avi" no plugin to handle this movie02:21
King-of-no-pantswell, its been going for, 22 Hours02:21
King-of-no-pantsand eighteen minutes02:22
ITSa341Warbo  we took it down as it was too distracting and I got tired of the emails from people who managed to figure out that it said "Systembytes....etc" and complained about subliminal messages02:22
DBOKing-of-no-pants, thats long enough02:22
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: newest is installed02:22
rukuarticEr, what do you need to compile stuff? build-essential and what else?02:22
JinkgunsI'm doing the wireless setup for the broadcom chip, and trying: sudo sed --in-place 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/g' $conffile returns "sed: can't read -: No such file or directory02:22
King-of-no-pantsdbo: does it ever "complete" ?02:22
JinkgunsAny ideas?02:22
amphiKing-of-no-pants: that should be ok ;)02:22
DBOKing-of-no-pants, no02:22
King-of-no-pantsahh!02:22
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WarboShadyman: Oh, that's what you meant by boot option (I thought you meant an option given to the kernel). OK, well there is no point remaking the initrd yourself, but you can run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-(your kernel version)" to rebuild it with the defaults02:22
King-of-no-pantswell, 28 passes and 0 errors02:23
spazzywormhi folks, anyone know where to get the newly released dapper beta?02:23
naliothrukuartic: the error msgs from w/e you are doing will advise what you need02:23
amphiKing-of-no-pants: no errors? when I had some marginal ram, I got many errors, rarely or never at consistent addresses02:23
WarboITSa341: Is it subliminal if nobody can actually understand it? Would I be influenced by a subliminal Swedish advert?02:23
ITSa341Warbo   that is what I said02:23
DBOKing-of-no-pants, you know what that means?  your ram is just fine =)02:23
malavarhello everyone02:23
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: haha, i dont think wine wants to install on my system :)02:23
_jasonltR20: do you have mplayer?02:23
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King-of-no-pantserrors: 0, ECC errors, blank02:24
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amphiKing-of-no-pants: rejoice02:24
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King-of-no-pantswell thats no help!02:24
King-of-no-pantsnow I dont know whats wrong with my computer02:24
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jeremybk_Could someone help me mount an XP share02:24
DBOwhat is happening King-of-no-pants ?02:24
amphiKing-of-no-pants: you never did02:24
King-of-no-pantsdbo: crashing02:24
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ltR20yes jason02:24
DBOKing-of-no-pants, in what manner?02:24
amphiKing-of-no-pants: but now you've eliminated one possibility02:25
King-of-no-pantsdbo: a few different ones02:25
_jasonltR20: does mplayer play it?02:25
ltR20No02:25
King-of-no-pantsamphi: and I replaced the graphics card02:25
WarboDoes anyone know what happens when you plug a TV out in an ATI card into a TV? I heard that if you boot up with it in then you get a TV out image on your TV, but I don't (can't tell if it's the computer or the telly)02:25
MathmanKing-of-no-pants: I'd run memtest over night myself02:25
_jasonltR20: mplayer -identify file.avi, on pastebin please02:25
amphiDBO: he had at least one spmtaneous reboot02:25
DBOMathman, he just did =P02:25
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King-of-no-pantsdbo: random flips into console mode, one spontaneous reboot, a few freezes02:25
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MathmanDBO: hmm, ok.  coulda sworn he said 20 minutes or something.02:25
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rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: It can, and it WILL.02:25
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King-of-no-pantsmathman: 22 hours :)02:26
DBOKing-of-no-pants, sounds like thermal issues and/or dirty power02:26
monesenthello02:26
Mathmanah, ok.  my mistake02:26
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: :)02:26
CokeNCodeok, i installed xampp02:26
Jinkgunserr, when is dapper coming out?02:26
rukuarticnalioth: Ask Axe for the error messages... says GCC can't build executables or something.02:26
CokeNCodeand now i can't find apache02:26
CokeNCodeor any of the services02:26
spazzywormanyone?02:26
CokeNCodewhat gives ?02:26
Warbomonesent: hello02:26
CokeNCodehow do i start apache  ?02:26
me2winubotu: tell Jinkguns about dapper02:26
monesenthey guys02:26
ltR20_jason is there a command to play it in the terminal02:26
naliothubotu tell CokeNCode about lamp02:26
monesentis it true that neti2220 works on the ubuntu linux distro02:26
naliothCokeNCode: check your priv msgs02:26
jeremybk_I added a line to my fstab file to mount an unprotected XP share.  Every time I reboot, it asks for a password.02:26
King-of-no-pantsdbo: I am reluctant to replace the power supply, as it contains the only fan that is blowing over the processor02:26
amphispazzyworm: ubuntu.org?02:26
rukuarticxampp is friendly :P02:26
CokeNCodei know, i have it installed already02:26
_jasonltR20: I just gave it to you02:26
me2win!xampp02:26
ubotume2win: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:26
CokeNCodeand it was working02:27
spazzywormamphi> not yet02:27
amphiKing-of-no-pants: that could be your problem, overheating02:27
monesenteven on the acer aspire 1522WLMi02:27
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ltR20_jason sorry i didn't see02:27
DBOKing-of-no-pants, that might be part of your problem here, can you check your CPU temperature (you might need to check in BIOS)02:27
CokeNCodebut, now, i don't know how to get the services running again02:27
_jasonltR20: mplayer -identify file.avi, on pastebin please02:27
CokeNCodenamely apache02:27
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rukuarticme2win: Xampp is apache, mysql, php, and perl. As well as a FTP server and a few other things. makes it really easy to start a capable server in seconds02:27
amphiKing-of-no-pants: if acpi is working on that box, you could try acpi -t02:27
monesentwurd02:27
monesentoops02:27
naliothCokeNCode: the answer is in your irc private messages02:27
me2winrukuartic: i know, i had added a xampp factoid to ubotu, but it doesnt exist anymore it seems02:28
King-of-no-pantsdbo: This computer was not built by me, it was made by NEC, I don't think they would ship a box that would overheat02:28
rukuarticoh, nalioth http://pastebin.com/670457 there it is :P02:28
jeremybk_I added a line to my fstab file to mount an unprotected XP share.  Every time I reboot, it asks for a password.02:28
ltR20_jason http://pastebin.com/67046902:28
k31thIf i wanted to set some thing in vixiecron to run at say 7am wat would i put in crontab ?02:28
amphiKing-of-no-pants: there's no fan on the cpu? what cpu is it?02:28
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DBOKing-of-no-pants, you would be surprised...  if dust has built up on the heatsink it very well could be02:28
_jasonltR20: you put the -identify in there?02:28
amphik31th: man 5 crontab has the grisly details02:28
King-of-no-pantsamphi: 400mhz, Slot 1, PII02:28
DBOnevermind...02:29
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DBOthat doesnt put out much heat02:29
rukuarticnalioth: I'm just trying to figure out what I need... its build-essential, gcc, and what else?02:29
King-of-no-pantsDBO: I'll check it out, as it looked very clean to me the other day.02:29
k31thamphi: ta02:29
ltR20sorry i didnt copy it properly02:29
amphiKing-of-no-pants: slot 1? Is that the damn great daughter-board-in-a-box?02:29
ltR20http://pastebin.com/67047202:29
naliothrukuartic: try a version up or downstream of wine source02:29
DBOKing-of-no-pants, do you have a multimeter?02:29
King-of-no-pantsdbo: a what?02:29
Warborukuartic: build-essential gives you gcc02:29
monesentthanx ;)02:29
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rukuarticnalioth: He's having a problem installing with apt-get02:29
rukuarticnalioth: i was going to have him get source and checkinstall02:30
amphiKing-of-no-pants: that's a 'no' , I guess ;)02:30
djk_mmh, are there any download-managers for linux?02:30
asdf25how do i change the image shown on the console while booting?02:30
DBOKing-of-no-pants, its a device that measures electrical current... king of looks like two meat thermometers attatched to wires...02:30
monesenthuh me?02:30
King-of-no-pantsamphi: Im not sure what a multimeter is02:30
naliothrukuartic: build-esential and checkinstall are good basics to have02:30
rukuarticdjk wget works well :P02:30
naliothrukuartic: mind my spelling02:30
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King-of-no-pantsdbo: Oh yeah! my teacher used one of those on a machine of mine earlier this year02:30
Warbodjk_: quite a few, I use DownThemAll plugin in FireFox02:30
rukuarticnalioth: :P02:30
King-of-no-pantsdbo: I don't have one on me, thou02:30
spazzywormdjk_; mostly front-ends to wget02:31
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King-of-no-pantsdbo: er, more on a power chord02:31
DBOKing-of-no-pants, beautiful, you think you could get your teacher to measure the voltage levels on your PSU then (since he seems comfortable doing it)02:31
monesentiso? and a copy of a cd burner worked for me02:31
djk_rukuartic: yea i know, but a frontend would be nicer02:31
CokeNCodeoh k, thanks a bunch guys02:31
King-of-no-pantsdbo: I'll do that.02:31
djk_spazzyworm: oh nice. what are they called?02:31
rukuarticdjk_: Search google for "wget gnome frontend"02:31
djk_Warbo: yea i know that, but i don't use ff ;)02:31
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rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Hey, I'm gettin some help from nalioth02:31
King-of-no-pantsdbo: do I need to bring in anything other than the psu?02:31
monesentohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh02:31
_jasonltR20: does this happen with other xvid files?02:31
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spazzywormdjk_: gwget is the best one IMHO02:31
jeremybk_Could someone help me mount an XP share?02:32
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DBOKing-of-no-pants, YES!  the whole PC needs to go02:32
Warbodjk_: Well I've started to use Epiphany more now anyway02:32
ltR20_jason Yes.02:32
DBOKing-of-no-pants, do NOT turn the PSU on without some kind of load on it02:32
King-of-no-pantsamphi: How should I go about stopping the memtest?02:32
_jasonltR20: then it's a problem with the actual video most likely02:32
djk_Warbo: opera is my one true love :)02:32
King-of-no-pantsdbo: Ok02:32
Warbodjk_: I did have "downloader for X" but it was a bit crap02:32
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: im hanging in there :) i appreciate all your help. I checked config.log, and it said something like: http://pastebin.com/67047502:32
ltR20_jason it happens with other videos02:32
djk_spazzyworm: thanks, i'll try it02:32
King-of-no-pantsdbo: It would just be alot easier for me to bring in a psu...02:32
_jasonltR20: oh02:32
ltR20_jason none of my vids work.02:32
DBOKing-of-no-pants, I understand fully, but doing so is dangerous to both you and the PSU02:33
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King-of-no-pantsdbo: thats why I checked02:33
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King-of-no-pantsdbo: ;)02:33
Warbobrb (nature calls)02:33
_jasonltR20: why are using debian mplayer?02:33
ltR20_jason ? no clue.02:34
Klick_hey what exactly are orphined packages i have a ton of them but it looks like stuff i use, is it safe to delete these?02:34
DBO=)  make sure you are very careful, a PSU is not something you want to play games with.  If your teacher does not seem comfortable, seek further help.  Do not attempt to check the voltages on your own unless you are very comfy with it02:34
amphiKing-of-no-pants: reboot02:34
ltR20_jason how do i get the trash icon on my desktop, i deleted somthing by accident02:34
_jason!desktoptrash02:34
ubotudesktoptrash is, like, applications menu-> system tools-> configuration editor: /apps/nautilus/desktop/trash_icon_visible02:34
King-of-no-pantshe guys, I'll brb, Im gonna get on a laptop, so I can run the Linux PC and chat at the same time.  And I've gotta go to the bathroom.02:34
ice_1963is there a why to jest install the base of gnome?02:34
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King-of-no-pantsamphi: alright, brb02:34
FlannelKingice_1963: install gnome-base, or whatever its called02:34
Phlostenice_1963, you could do a server install and just install what you need on top of that02:35
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Hey... I get helped by other people... pass on the knowledge :P02:35
ice_1963ok02:35
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: might want to pass to nalioth02:36
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ltR20_jason i fixed it, thanks.02:36
_jasonltR20: the video problem?  what caused it?02:36
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: thanks a bunch mate, eventho wine is not yet installed, i learned alot :)02:36
ice_1963ok how can i do a server install?02:37
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Yea... you just keep learning. Its a great thing :P02:37
ltR20it was that one video, but 5 minutes before the other videos wernt working either02:37
ltR20anyway it works now thx02:37
FlannelKingice_1963: from the install CD, type "server" at the initial prompt02:37
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axemen|Thomasrukuartic: still just my first day of linux :)02:37
amphiaxemen|Thomas: you appear to have no suitable standard c library...02:37
Phlostenice_1963, be aware that a server install is very bare bones, it is only about 63 packages versus the 500 for a normal install02:37
Shadymanaxemen|Thomas: I remember my first day.02:37
rukuarticamphi: What do you need to compile stuff? build essential and...02:38
Shadymanaxemen|Thomas: I was like omgwtf02:38
rukuarticamphi: Its like 3 things...02:38
ice_1963and that will install my right02:38
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rukuarticawm-gee Shadyman!!02:38
axemen|ThomasShadyman: haha :)02:38
ice_1963base02:38
jinho326hi i installed xubuntu yesterday and today when I turned it back on, it wouldnt load...I've had this problem with the original ubuntu...so I tried to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but it hasnt helped...any ideas?02:38
amphirukuartic: all the errors seem to be the linker complaining about libc02:38
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monesentthnx guys02:39
rukuarticamphi: Mmmm.02:39
Shadymanjinho326: How do you mean "Not load"?02:39
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jinho326Shadyman: I mean that it wont go into the GUI02:39
Shadymanjinho326: What does it go into?02:39
rukuarticamphi: its a vanilla system02:40
jinho326Shadyman: I have access to the command line if i boot through recovery mode02:40
jinho326Shadyman: but thats about it02:40
ice_1963what is in ubuntu right now gnome 2.12 or 2.14 ??02:40
rukuartic2.12 ice_196302:40
Shadymanjinho326: Oh. I don't know about that, then. sorry02:40
rukuarticDapper'll have 2.1402:40
amphirukuartic: 64/32 bit problem? dunno, I'm all 32bit02:40
jinho326Shadyman: thing is xubuntu is using xfce02:40
rukuarticamphi: Naw its just a vanilla system. He doesn't have the important installed stuff02:40
jinho326would that have to do w/ it?02:40
rukuarticWhoo! go xfce!!02:40
amphirukuartic: he hasn't installed build-essential?02:41
jinho326 (xfce is so pretty...but I cant get to it...T_T)02:41
rukuarticamphi: He's got that... what else is there? there's like three total02:41
rukuarticjinho326: At the login screen, click "session"02:41
amphirukuartic: 3 total what?02:41
rukuarticamphi: Packages you need to install to build stuff02:41
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jinho326rukuartic: thing is I cant even get to the login screen02:41
ice_1963can i install my nvidia driver ?02:41
rukuarticjinho326: System>Logout? I think?02:41
Phlostenjinho326, did you just install that latest Xubuntu cd?02:41
jinho326I'm running ATI 9200,02:41
amphirukuartic: build-essential is a meta-package 'containing' many packages02:42
jinho326Phlosten: yeah...02:42
invisage01anyone having problems downloading the dapper daily build today? or is it just me?02:42
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Phlostenjinho326, did you follow the instructions to install xubuntu-desktop?02:42
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amphirukuartic: he might need another version of gcc, dunno02:42
nemikdoing dist-upgrade to dapper was the stupides decision ever. EVERYTHING is broken02:42
jinho326Phlosten: what do you mean? I had it working perfectly yesterday...02:42
invisage01http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/ is just timing out for me.. anyone else have this prob?02:42
amphinemik: that's the fun of unstable02:42
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jinho326Phlosten: today when I loaded it, this was the first reboot- thing is this screen problem also happened w/ breezy installation of regular ubuntu02:43
nemikamphi, my eth0 is gone; doesn't exit. i can't even connect to the internet!02:43
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Phlostenjinho326, the install instructions for Xubuntu state that the CD should be installed with 'server' mode and you should install xubuntu-desktop manually02:43
ITSa341invisage01   I've been getting timeouts trying to download the dvd version for two days now. Gets 1/2 way and times out02:43
Phlostenjinho326, ok, fair enough02:43
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: I actually have to split to get a shower real quick... =\02:43
Phlostenjinho326, did it shut down cleanly?02:44
rukuarticamphi: If you're not doing anything, he needs help02:44
jinho326Phlosten: like a breeze02:44
axemen|Thomasrukuartic: np mate, thanks a bunch for all your help :)02:44
ITSa341invisage01   that link times out for me also02:44
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amphinemik: doesn't exit?02:44
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invisage01thanks ITSa341: i was having similar probs trying to dl at work yesterday.. trying with a DL manager from home today.. but only timing out02:44
invisage01.. called in sick and everything to do it heh02:45
amphiaxemen|Thomas: are you on a 64bit machine?02:45
nemikamphi, yep; just gone. not to mention that x won't start and all the seg-faults i get even booting02:45
jinho326Phlosten: has there been any reports of issues like this w/ dapper?02:45
rukuarticaxemen|Thomas: Heh. No problem ;p02:45
Warboamphi: I think doesn't exist02:45
axemen|ThomasAmphi: yeah02:45
ITSa341invisage01   I tried it on 3 machines02:45
amphinemik: what happens if you modprobe the module?02:45
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nemikamphi...how would i do that?02:45
invisage01it's not just me for once! :) best news EVER! :P02:45
Phlostenjinho326, I havent noticed any, you could have a look through the forums02:45
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amphiaxemen|Thomas: that would seem to be at least part of the problem - I don't know about 64bit, so I can't help02:46
jinho326Phlosten: any last words of advice (or comfort...)02:46
trainstrokeri built and installed the xvid codec, so now all i have to do is open a movie player and it will work. or do i need to register it somehow02:46
yipehi everybody02:46
amphinemik: what card is it?02:46
Warboyipe: hi02:46
Klick_ Can someone tell me what orphaned packages are i notice i have a lot of them but, im not sure if i use them or not02:46
Phlostenjinho326, you said you tried dpkg-reconfigure on xorg right?02:46
nemikamphi, not to sure; internal ethernet one; probably broadcom02:46
ITSa341invisage01   I tried it at work  LOL02:46
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jinho326Phlosten: yup02:46
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amphinemik: lspci would tell you, probably02:46
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jinho326Phlosten: o yeah... i didnt use the frame buffer thing for the kernel...would that have helped?02:46
yipehow can I find out my system's uptime?02:46
Phlostenjinho326, have you tried it with the 'vesa' driver?02:46
nemikamphi, lscpi? command not found...02:47
Phlostenjinho326, no, no frame buffer is usually best02:47
amphiKlick_: packages on which no others depend, such as unnecesary libraries02:47
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axemen|ThomasAmphi: i installed a 64 bit version for AMD processors i think, maybe i can install a 32 bit amd version instead?02:47
amphinemik: sudo lspci02:47
jinho326Phlosten: hmm, no I went strait to the flgrx drivers, how do the vesa drivers differ?02:47
djk_yipe: in a terminal type uptime02:47
axemen|Thomasamphi: not quite sure how these things work02:47
yipethanks:)02:47
WarboKlick_: "oprhaned" means that you didn't ask for them to be installed, something else needed them. Now you don't need them any more, but you may like them anyway (for example, if you install java for firefox it will install java, get rid of java for firefox you don't technically need java, but you may still want it)02:47
amphiaxemen|Thomas: I have no idea what contortions you need to go through, but that might be it02:47
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Phlostenjinho326, try the 'vesa' driver, the vesa driver is a generic video driver that should work on everything02:47
nemikamphi, realtek ehternet controller02:47
amphinemik: 8139?02:48
yipe2 days, 20 hours:)02:48
jinho326Phlosten: will I lose anything though?02:48
Phlostenjinho326, it has no 3d acceleration support tho, but might narrow it down to a driver problem02:48
amphiyipe: ?02:48
Klick_gotcha, thanks02:48
yipethat's my current uptime02:48
jinho326Phlosten: in terms of quality? Oh, I see what you mean now02:48
nemikamphi, yes 813902:48
Phlostenjinho326, no, it will just try to initialise your video card differently02:48
King-of-no-pantsback02:48
jinho326Phlosten: alright I'll try that02:48
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jinho326Phlosten: thanks for the help mate!02:48
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yipeand also the time since I reinstalled ubuntu so I could repartition my HD02:48
OrbordeWhat DNS client package does Ubuntu use?02:48
amphinemik: try sudo modprobe 8139too and then do sudo ifconfig -a and see if the interface is there02:48
Phlostenjinho326, try it first, if it works with vesa then it is more than likely a driver issue of some sort02:49
jinho326Phlosten: gotcha!02:49
nemikamphi, yes thank you! it is running now02:50
carbohelp.. sudo is supposed to ask for my password right? its not doing that, it just runs and that looks kinda insecure02:50
naliothcarbo: when was the last time you used sudo? it has a 15 minute lifespan02:50
Phlostencarbo, if you have already provided a password for a previous sudo login within a certain amount of time it wont ask for password again02:50
Warbocarbo: Have you messed around with sudoers? If you type it once it will remember for a short time as well02:50
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nemikamphi, but things are still really bad; pushing up for previous entered command gives unknown key errors. should i try dist-upgrade all over again?02:51
amphinemik: does grep 8139too /etc/modules show anything?02:51
carboi know it has a 15 minute timer... but I just rebooted... also i tried to clear the thing with sudo -k or whatever it is, but it still doesn't ask for my password02:51
SirKillalotis there a program which can control my sound volume? (to bind it to keyboard shortcuts)02:51
WarboThere is a command to tell sudo to forget isn't there?02:51
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_jasonsudo -k02:51
Warbocarbo: If you have used visudo to play around with settings you may have permanent root access02:52
PhlostenSirKillalot, System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts?02:52
nemikamphi, the eth0 interface came back up. i did dhclient eth0; got an IP and can apt-get now. anything in particular you would recommend?02:52
carboWarbo: yeah i did the forget thing but it doesn't work. I did add myself to sudoers cos previously i couldn't use sudo at all..02:52
OrbordeWhat DNS client package does Ubuntu use? And how would I go about flushing the DNS cache?02:52
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trainstrokeri built and installed the xvid codec, so now all i have to do is open a movie player and it will work. or do i need to register it somehow02:52
SirKillalotPhlosten, doesnt work for me, it changes the volume of the false sound channel02:52
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SirKillalotmy volume is managed by PCM02:52
_jasoncarbo: can you paste the output of 'groups'?02:52
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carbo_jason: carbo adm dialout cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner hamachi02:53
_jasoncarbo: why are you in the sudo group?  that's the reason02:53
amphinemik: does grep 8139too /etc/modules show anything?02:53
Warbocarbo: Aha! Same as me. I am not the first user on my box, and I deleted the others. I then couldn't do anything as super user (not even add myself to admin) so I used single user mode to edit sudoers. Now I have root access with no password.02:53
_jasoncarbo: the proper group to be in is 'admin'02:53
nemikamphi: yes it is fine now02:53
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carbo_jason: i'm not sure why i'm in those groups... okay i'll change it02:54
Warbocarbo: Although I am not root (if I do apt-get I get erors, but sudo apt-get works with no password)02:54
amphinemik: what is fine? '8139' is in /etc/modules?02:54
_jasoncarbo: just make sure you /etc/sudoers contains the %admin line before you do that :P02:54
PhlostenSirKillalot, is your default soundcard set correct in 'Sound Preferences'?02:54
carboWarbo: yeah that's the behaviour i'm getting. not root, but sudo doesn't ask for pw02:54
djtanseydapper is going to be supported for 3/5 years (desktop/server.) will the next release be supported for the same length of time? If not, how are people supposed to know which will have extended support?02:54
nemikamphi: yes. and I have an IP and the box is connceted to the internet. do you recommend me doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again?02:54
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nemikdjtansey: no next one will not. i guess it can be on the website how long each is supported and it will certiainly be printed on the manufactured CD's02:55
Warbocarbo: I would like to know how to fix that, but I'm not on my box at the moment (in case anyone is trying to hack me at the moment, you can't get root :))02:55
paul__Phlosten:hey02:55
carbo_jason: okay sorry how do i remove myself from a group? the users-admin thing doesn't list the group sudo so i have to do it manually02:56
paul__Phlosten:this is jinho02:56
hadixwhat is the name of ubuntu forum channel?02:56
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paul__Phlosten: so i was able to get back on...thanks to the vesa drivers02:56
_jasoncarbo: first, 'sudo adduser your_username admin', then 'sudo deluser your_username sudo'02:56
amphinemik: you could try, after an apt-get update02:56
djtanseynemik: but it won't be some obvious pattern, like every other one. or every third one. or every forth one?02:56
bimberidjtansey: next release will have 18 months support.  I don't know what the policy for which releases get extended support but they will overlap02:56
FlannelKinghadix: I don't believe there is one02:56
Phlostenpaul__, ah-ha, so it is a driver problem02:56
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paul__Phlosten: but now, what should I do, the video quality is absolute crap...02:56
bimberihadix: #ubuntuforums02:56
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_jasoncarbo: actually, first paste the resutl of 'sudo cat /etc/sudoers | grep admin'02:56
hadixaha02:56
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Phlostenpaul__, yes, unfortunately vesa is pretty ordinary, but at least it narrowed it down to a single problem area02:57
nemikdjtansey: at this point i'm not sure. though i'm guessing ever 2 years such an 'enterprise' release will come out02:57
hadixI do not remember "s" lol ;)02:57
paul__Phlosten: yeah...so which drivers should I use?02:57
trainstrokerwhat is CVS???02:57
carbo_jason: thanks it works! yeah i added %admin to sudoers with all permissions, is that right?02:57
_jasoncarbo: yeah02:57
djtanseynemik: thanks. just wanted to know. look forward to dapper and to a more edgy dapper+1 release.02:57
bimberi!cvs02:57
ubotufrom memory, cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/02:57
Phlostenpaul__, what sort of video card are you using?02:57
amphitrainstroker: apt-cache show cvs02:58
nemikdjtansey: me too; though dapper has just scared me big-time. but i think they'll polish it up by release02:58
paul__Phlosten: ati 920002:58
trainstrokeramphi: phillip@ubuntu:~$ apt -cache show cvs02:58
trainstrokerbash: apt: command not found02:58
amphipaul__: that card is supported by the xorg driver, according to man radeon02:58
djtanseynemik: why, what did it do? i just hope it has good laptop support (i.e. docking/undocking, external monitors, etc.)02:59
amphitrainstroker: that's not what I suggested to you02:59
trainstroker?02:59
Phlostenpaul__, one sec02:59
_jasontrainstroker: apt-cache contains no spaces02:59
paul__Phlosten: so if I used the dpkg-command, which one would I picK?02:59
trainstrokerapt -cache show cvs02:59
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amphitrainstroker: _look_ at what I typed, and what you typed02:59
Phlostenamphi, by what driver?02:59
trainstrokeroooo theres no space03:00
jadacyru1if i wanna design my own login manager, where would I find a tutorial or specifications of some kind?03:00
trainstrokersorry03:00
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amphiPhlosten: er, radeon03:00
amphitrainstroker: heh03:00
Phlostenamphi, :)03:00
nemikdjtansey: i wouldn't dare try it on my laptop at this point. breezy works beautifully on it. but i tried doing an apt-get dist-upgrade and it messed up; BAD. if you wanna try it; i would suggest a clean install. but don't do dist-upgrade and expect it to be easy03:00
Warbojadacyru1: Your own entire program, or your own theme?03:00
Phlostenpaul__, try the radeon driver then03:00
paul__from Ati?03:00
nemikdjtansey: btw, i tried the dist-upgrade on my desktop not my laptop03:00
amphipaul__: no, the xorg (Free) driver03:01
paul__Phlosten: it will be listed as xorg in the choices then?03:01
amphipaul__: have a look at man radeon03:01
Phlostenpaul__, type 'man radeon' in a terminal to see what amphi means03:01
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djtanseynemik: to be honest, i'm considering doing a clean dapper beta install this weekend. i just have to make sure i have an up-to-date backup of it that isn't missing some files. (a couple years back did a clean install of my machine but forgot my gnupg keys...)03:01
paul__kk03:01
Phlostenpaul__, and yes it should be there in your choice of options03:02
amphinemik: you must expect b0rkage with an unstable version03:02
djtanseynemik: this time around i'm finally going to switch to my own /home partition... i just never wanted to before (on this laptop) because the harddrive isn't that huge.03:02
King-of-no-pantsamphi: im back, I just had another random restart on my linux system, and my IRC started acting up at the same time03:02
nemikamphi: yes that's true. its just what i've been hearing about flight 5 made it seem super easy and stable03:02
King-of-no-pantsamphi: This is the second time when my IRC kicked me off on the laptop, when my desktop linux crashed03:02
amphiKing-of-no-pants: I imagine a random reboot would make everything 'act up' ;)03:02
PhlostenKing-of-no-pants, no details in logs?03:02
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King-of-no-pantsphlosten: I'll check em03:03
paul__Phlosten: ah I see03:03
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djtanseynemik: btw, how do you backup your home directory?03:03
paul__Phlosten:thanks, I'll give that a shot03:03
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paul__Phlosten: for a second I thought man radeon was someone's name03:03
Phlostenpaul__, let us know how it goes03:03
paul__Phlosten:lol03:03
paul__Phlosten: will do03:03
nemikdjtansey: if i were to, i would load cp -rf /home to my 320 GB drive. :D03:03
dj-fudjtansey, tar -cfj /media/backupdrive/backup.tar.bz2 /home/$USER03:04
King-of-no-pantsphlosten: I've got a bunch of "wireless event too big"03:04
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djtanseynemik: yeah. probably the best. i used to have a nice diff script setup. lost it sometime...03:04
PhlostenKing-of-no-pants, nothing else?03:04
djtanseydj-fu: thanks. i'll do that and exclude my music/images/etc directories so i don't waste time encrypting them03:05
King-of-no-pantsphlosten: no, there is a ton of stuff in here03:05
PhlostenKing-of-no-pants, did your computer totally reset, or just x?03:05
trainstrokerhow do i know the password to a cvs thingy03:05
King-of-no-pantsphlosten: what log shoudl I look at? total reset03:05
dj-fudjtansey, nod, I hope you have a powerful processor03:05
PhlostenKing-of-no-pants, maybe the kernel one03:05
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amphinemik: cp -a is nice ;)03:05
paul__Phlosten: sorry, but I dont see the xorg option in the reconfigure wizard03:06
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djtanseydj-fu: nope. thinkpad x40. 1.2ghz. but i got nothing else to do tonight...03:06
amphipaul__: huh?03:06
nemikamphi; cp -a exits!? oh man. yea i'm relatively new to linux. been at it hardcore and fulltime but you learn something new every day. thanks!03:06
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Phlostenpaul__, one sec03:06
paul__amphi: I opened the dpkg-reconfigure xerver-xorg command and while trying to choose the drivers, its not in there...03:07
amphinemik: see man cp, -a may not mean what you think it means ;)03:07
paul__amphi: is it in a repository?03:07
trainstrokerhow do i know the password to a cvs thingy03:07
amphipaul__: radeon isn't there? then go with ati, it'll use the same driver AFAIK03:07
nemikamphi: hehe when this apt monstrosity ever finishes; i'll be sure to check03:07
JinkgunsHow do I make it so the module ndiswrapper is loaded on bootup?03:07
paul__amphi: oh, hte name is supposed to be radeon, not xorg?03:07
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tonyyarussoablyss: Very handy.03:08
ablyss:-)03:08
amphipaul__: sorry, choose ati03:08
Phlostenpaul__, go the ati driver03:09
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paul__Phlosten: amphi:gotcha03:09
Whyvasany pxe buffs out there?03:09
trainstrokerhow do i go about doing that?03:09
amphitrainstroker: why send me that url?03:09
trainstrokerhow do i handle cvs?03:10
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King-of-no-pantsphlosten: what should I be looking for?03:10
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amphitrainstroker: man cvs might be a place to start; there are tutorials all over the web03:10
FlannelKingtrainstroker: why cvs?03:10
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trainstrokerthats what a tut said to do03:10
jadacyru1just my own theme03:11
jadacyru1Warbro: sorry mt internet keeps dropping out di you respond to me?03:11
paul__phlosten: do I need to do a total system reboot, or is pressing ctrl+alt+bksp and relogging in good enough?03:11
PhlostenKing-of-no-pants, kernel panic03:11
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amphipaul__: no need to reboot03:11
djtanseydj-fu: general question: do i need to keep my .gconf, .gnome, .gnome2 directories to keep my evolution settings?03:11
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Phlostenpaul__, ctrl-alt-backspace at the gdm should be enough03:11
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amphipaul__: you might need to do /etc/init.d/gdm restart, dunno, I don't use gui login03:11
nemikdoes replacing portmap usually take a long time in apt-get? mine seems stuck at it03:12
paul__amphi: waht would that do?03:12
amphipaul__: restart gdm ;)03:12
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Phlostenpaul__, log out of gnome, and at the login hit ctril-alt-backspace, that restarts gdm03:12
kiko0123http://apr19.imgshare.us/kvyy.png anyone have an idea how can i fix this error ? my keyboard dosent want to set properly to Canadian Multilingual03:12
amphipaul__: listen to Phlosten ;)03:12
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dj-fudjtansey, I'd suggest doing so - especially if you are just reinstalling, if you are upgrading - maybe not.03:12
paul__so that would be like pressing ctrl-alt-bksp twice?03:12
Phlostenpaul__, yes, spose do03:13
Phlostenso03:13
trainstrokeramphi: im trying cvsage but it prompts for password?03:13
djtanseydj-fu: yeah... i probably have to. but i like to have as clean of slates as possible... oh well.03:13
paul__kk03:13
King-of-no-pantsphlosten: there doesn't appear to be any kernel panic messages03:13
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PhlostenKing-of-no-pants, might be a very obscure reason for resetting, and if you have a hardware issue there may not be any :/03:14
King-Of-Pantsphlosten: yep03:14
amphidjtansey: x40, is that one of the small ones, 12" panel?03:14
paul__phlosten: it told me that "the greeter program seemed to crash, opening with a new GUI"03:14
paul__phlosten:...well not word for word, but somethign along those lines03:14
PhlostenKing-of-no-pants, my PC would not start yesterday because of dust :/03:14
kiko0123http://apr19.imgshare.us/kvyy.png anyone have an idea how can i fix this error ? my keyboard dosent want to set properly to Canadian Multilingual03:14
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paul__phlosten: but i was able to get back in03:14
Phlostenpaul__, thats ok, is it looking better?03:14
King-Of-PantsI've got something you guys can help me with.  I accidently set gaim to start at startup, how do I disable that?03:15
djtanseyamphi: yup03:15
paul__phlosten: yeah the background is noticably better03:15
amphidjtansey: nice, I'm on a t42 here03:15
paul__phlosten: so I guess its fixed =)03:15
Phlostenpaul__, excellent03:15
patrick24601can anybody recommend a good graphical ftp client?03:15
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paul__phlosten: thanks phlosten!03:15
paul__amphi: thanks amphi!03:15
amphipatrick24601: gftp is popular03:15
swapatrick24601, sudo apt-get install gftp03:15
dj-fuNautilus' built in ftp works alright03:15
Phlostenpatrick24601, gftp is about the best there is, although it isnt terribly good, I personally use the fireftp plugin for firefox03:16
djtanseyamphi: ah. wonderful thinkpads. best decision i ever made (well... excepting a few)03:16
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patrick24601thanks03:16
patrick24601fireftp?03:16
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damian_what would cause my /etc/resolv.conf to revert back to unsaved changes after i make modifications (the mods stick for about 5mins)03:16
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tonyyarussoI just hope the ThinkPad reputation doesn't die as the connection to IBM weakens.03:16
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nemikdjtansey and amphi: those are both nice. my next computer will be a thinkpad. but for now my dell 700m is doing super03:16
amphidjtansey: yeah, I'm a big fan of stinkpads - I hope Lenovo keeps up the good work03:16
Phlostenpatrick24601, check it out in the extensions section of the mozilla website03:16
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patrick24601k03:16
patrick24601thanks03:16
amphitonyyarusso: likewise03:16
djtanseynemik: dunno the 700m. had the inspiron 8200... didn't work so well with the amount of traveling/backpacking i do03:17
Phlostenpatrick24601, it is nice and simple, great for basic stuff, I found that gftp had problems with transferring large files, or lots of files03:17
djtanseyamphi: i am worried about lenovo, too. i know they're tryign to compete with dell/other cheaper laptops. i just hope they don't sacrifice their enterprise quality stuff03:17
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nemikdjtansey: 8200 was terrible. all my friends hate theirs. large and many problems. 700m seems much better built; but its still a dell03:18
amphidjtansey: with any luck they'll use their own brand for that, and making the tanks for them as wants 'em03:18
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amphitonyyarusso: heh; adding windows keys would be a disaster ;)03:18
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nemikamphi i agree completely. thinkpads are legendary; i would hate to see them sink to the level of dells/hps/compaqs03:19
tonyyarussoamphi: They already did!  I mentioned that I think.03:19
djtanseynemik: ah. well, i guess there is hope yet.03:19
tonyyarussoOr so I hear.03:19
amphitonyyarusso: even shipping them with freedos if they can't ship 'naked' (stupid MS term) boxes03:19
djtanseyamphi: hopefully.03:19
amphitonyyarusso: on the thinkpads?03:19
nemiknaked pc's? i sure hope the FCC is on top of this....03:20
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cowlikkhello03:20
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nemikhello03:20
tonyyarussoamphi: I sent a follow-up e-mail three days later when I heard the Chinese announcement, recommending something small and free like DSL as an easy way to comply with the law and still offer choice.03:20
cowlikkhelp me03:20
nargwhat is the best way to get a diff in cvs between the last 2 versions?03:20
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amphinemik: yeah, it'd be sad;have to resort to one of these then, I suppose ;) http://www.tadpolecomputer.com/html/products/mobile/bullfrog-dual/03:20
tonyyarussoamphi: I read that the Lenovo line has winkeys, not the current thinkpads.03:20
nemikwhat is wrong cowlikk?03:20
amphitonyyarusso: phew ;)03:20
cowlikki need sound on teamspeak and need to listen to music03:21
cowlikkbut i cant03:21
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amphinemik: the 'naked pc' meme has been issuing from Redmond for a while now, and no, no one seems to care03:21
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nemikamphi: a laptop with a sparc processor?!?! WTF?03:21
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Teh_b-radjyaaaaaay03:22
cowlikkhey brad03:22
Teh_b-radwhat up cow03:22
amphinemik: no, two ultrasparcs ;)03:22
kiko0123I don't understand i have my keyboard settinf set to Canadian multilingual and it dosent take effect at all....03:22
Teh_b-radahhh!!!! no hablar ingles!03:22
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nemikamphi: that thing is insane. where can you drop of the depleted uranium?03:22
cowlikkPOOOOF03:22
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King-of-no-pantsmy connection to freenode keeps being reset03:23
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Protocol1yo03:23
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amphinemik: heh - no trackpoint though ;(03:23
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nemikcowlikk: you cannot listen to music? like mp3?03:23
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cowlikkyes xmms + MP3 + TEAMSPEAK DONT WORK03:23
nemikamphi; yea mine doesn't have one either. got used to the pad though03:23
King-of-no-pantsamphi: any idea on how I can stop gaim from starting with the computer?03:23
nemikcowlikk: what is teamspeak?03:24
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Nick5768www.teamspeak.org03:24
Teh_b-radgmmmm03:24
Nick5768it's a voip program03:24
cowlikkTALKING PROGRAM FOR GAMING WITH FREINDS03:24
amphinemik: the pads are awful IMHO, I've disabled mine03:24
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Protocol1teamspeak is a good program03:24
cowlikkYEAH VOIP03:24
Teh_b-radwe cannot run two audio applications at a time without one being unsupported03:24
amphicowlikk: you could use the alsa dmix plugin perhaps03:24
eggzeckcowlikk, I don't know about teamspeak but mp3 does work03:24
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MortuisWhen I SSH into a computer, is there a way to pull a file from the remote computer into the computer I'm at?03:24
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nemikKing-of-no-pants: perhaps it is in /etc/init.d and you can just sudo rm to remove it.03:24
amphiMortuis: man scp03:24
Teh_b-radsee previous cmment03:25
Teh_b-rad^^03:25
amphiMortuis: and you don't need to ssh into the remote first to scp files in either direction03:25
Mortuisamphi: thanks03:25
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naliothcowlikk: please turn off your caps lock03:25
eggzeckcowlikk, go to Options->Preferences and set the output plugin correctly03:25
Teh_b-radneither of us can run two audio applications at the same time without one having an error03:25
nemikcowlikk: had that same problem with skype and mp3s. they just don't want to work simultaneously03:25
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eggzeckcowlikk, you might need ALSA03:25
Protocol1how do I ssh a computer behind a router?03:25
amphiKing-of-no-pants: surely gaim is not started by an init script? is not your gnome session or some such?03:26
WarboProtocol1: Get the router to forward ports03:26
Nick5768Protocol1, port forwading?03:26
Nick5768warbo wins :(03:26
jimcooncatProtocol1, NAT the port through03:26
tonyyarussonemik: I can't use Skype with any sounds at all.03:26
JinkgunsGAH STUPID encryptopajdajs03:26
nemikProtocol1: open the computer's ssh port on the router in the router's setup. what kind of router do you have?03:26
Teh_b-radi've tried to change the output03:26
King-of-no-pantsammphi: i was shutting the system down, it asked me if I would like to save the current configuration, I said yes, now gaim opens on startup03:26
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Protocol1nemik, its a dlink 430003:27
cowlikki have alsa i think03:27
nemiktonyyarusso: got it working once with both mic and calling. but right after that call; it goes to hell again03:27
amphiKing-of-no-pants: that's gnome's session management, I presume03:27
WarboKing-of-no-pants: System-Prefs-Session-Startup Programs03:27
King-of-no-pantsamphi: Ill presume that, too03:27
invisage01www.portforward.com will show you exactly how to do it Protocol103:27
amphicowlikk: you need to have both progs use the dmix alsa plugin03:27
WarboKing-of-no-pants: Should have been > not -03:27
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jimcooncatProtocol1, once you get it working you might want to switch to something other than port 2203:27
invisage01Protocol1 just go to the routers section and find your router there03:27
cowlikkhow do i make teamspeak do that03:27
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amphicowlikk: with a hammer?03:28
Teh_b-radi've changed mine to alsa or esd.. when i go to alsa it says there is no pipeline03:28
cowlikklol03:28
Protocol1invisage01, thanks for the information03:28
King-of-no-pantswarbo: I figured it out ;)03:28
cowlikki dont have a big enough hammer03:28
Protocol1i'll give it a shot03:28
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eggzeckKing-of-no-pants, yeah right, just thank him :P03:28
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King-of-no-pantswarbo: thank you03:28
King-of-no-pantseggzeck: thank you03:28
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amphicowlikk: the downside of dmix is it introduces quite a lot of latency, at least for me03:29
King-of-no-pantsamphi: thank you03:29
Warboeggzeck: NP (eggzeck: I was guiding him telepathically)03:29
UbuntuNewbiehello everyone03:29
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eggzeckWarbo: lol.03:29
cowlikkhow do i do that03:29
Warbooops, np for King-of-no-pants03:29
amphiKing-of-no-pants: ?03:29
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nemikhehe i like his name too03:29
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WarboUbuntuNewbie: Hello03:30
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rukuartic!seen axemen|Thomas03:30
rukuarticZut.03:30
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newuserlooking for a quick way to enable/disable pppoe.03:30
naliothrukuartic: don't do that in here, please03:30
Trixyhey all, I'm new to Ubuntu though I've been a Debian user for awhile. I just did a dist-upgrade to Dapper from Breezy, and I can't seem to get my Geforce 6800 gt working in X. I keep getting the standard newbie "screens found, but none have a useable configuration" message.03:30
Xenguynewuser: pon/poff ?03:30
King-of-no-pantsamphi: it started crashing when I moved the computer downstairs, that was when I started using the WLAN, I'm disabling the WLAN and going to LAN, maybe that could be it03:31
jadaz87!tell Trixy about dapper03:31
rukuarticnalioth: Social fauxpaus? Sorry btw...03:31
WarboTrixy: Get rid of nvidia driver and install it from scratch03:31
Trixyah, so for dapper help I should head to ubuntu+1?03:31
naliothrukuartic: this is a channel for help, not !seen (try in #ubuntu-offtopic)03:31
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newuserXenguy: k thanks will give that a try.03:31
amphiKing-of-no-pants: the desktop was using wifi? yeah, you could see if wired fixes it - what wireless card? are you using the dread ndiswrapper?03:31
rukuarticnalioth: gotcha... I'll keep that in mind for future reference03:31
TrixyWarbo: I've uninstalled and reinstalled nvidia-glx already03:32
naliothTrixy: yes03:32
King-of-no-pantsamphi: yep.  ndiswrapper, its an el cheapo Airnet wifi card.03:32
rukuarticAny alternatives to ndiswrapper?03:32
WarboTrixy: I use module-assistant to build it for me03:32
amphiKing-of-no-pants: t3h 3vi1! ;)03:32
King-of-no-pantsamphi: i guess so03:32
TrixyI'll see how it works, I've only ever used apt03:32
amphiKing-of-no-pants: dunno if that's it, but it's worth a try03:33
King-of-no-pantsamphi: but I need the wifi for this system to do what I want it to03:33
WarboTrixy: module-assistant uses apt, but I think it's a little out dated or something now. Works for me though03:33
amphiKing-of-no-pants: get a cheap ralink card that has a decent ghod-fearing gnu driver ;)03:33
amphiWarbo: what's outdated? apt?03:33
King-of-no-pantsamphi: I have no money, and am not going to buy anything i already have03:33
bytronHello, I'm switching from gentoo to kubuntu.  I have an AMD64 processor and under gentoo I would have many problems where I couldn't install a program because it wasn't working with AMD64, masked or whatever.  Anyhow, I'd like to give Kubuntu a try, and I am wondering: Would it help if I installed the i386 version of Kubuntu (if I want to avoid 64 bit problems) or is that not an issue with kubuntu.  Basically, I don't want to run into th03:34
bytrone 64 bit incompatibility problems, and I believe I can just install the i386 version without issue.  Any advice?03:34
Warboamphi: Using module-assistant. I never hear anyone recommend it03:34
amphiKing-of-no-pants: rt2500 cards are about USD20 AFAIK03:34
amphiKing-of-no-pants: and they seem to work well03:34
harisundDoes anybody know what the gnome-pty-helper process does? The longer I leave my computer on, the more the number of these processes seem to crop up.03:34
Nick5768bytron: i'm using i386 version of ubuntu with athlon 64 and no probems03:34
amphiWarbo: I've used it occasionally, and it's behaved reasonably well03:34
Warbobytron: x86 should install fine03:34
King-of-no-pantsamphi: 20 dollars is alot of money03:34
King-of-no-pantsamphi: especially for something I have03:35
amphiKing-of-no-pants: wifi doesn't come cheap ;)03:35
bytronThanks guys, that exactly what I needed to know03:35
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King-of-no-pantsamphi: oh, I know03:35
Warboamphi: Only thing I can't do is eagle-usb as it needs an active net connection. I can install it from source then break it by upgrading the kernel. (that's why the system I'm on is not Dapper)03:35
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King-of-no-pantsamphi: now where were we, with the folding @ home...03:36
Protocol1wifi does coma at a price03:36
amphiWarbo: you should only have to use module-assistant again after a kernel-upgrade03:36
Protocol1come*03:36
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amphiKing-of-no-pants: IIRC, the example you had said to stick a line in /etc/rc.local or something; put the line in /etc/bootmisc.sh instead03:36
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King-of-no-pantsok03:37
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FoxHound01how well would a Pentium 4 1.6GHz w/384MB of ram handle Ubuntu (w/Gnome)?03:37
lalahello :)03:37
King-of-no-pantshope i can remember where i put it :)03:37
lalai'm a newbie in ubuntu03:37
disco_stuI am having some trouble with DVD playback in Totem - I have my video drivers all set up now (finally) but when it goes to the dvd menu it gives me this error:03:37
amphiFoxHound01: should be fine - if gnome is slow, you can always use a lighter window manager03:37
Protocol1lala, same here03:37
Warboamphi: The eagle-usb is the driver for the modem. You can't use module-assistant with no net connection, and if you use the source you cannot use module-assistant because it will conflict with the installed source. I may set up a temporary wired network from a working Breezy to a Dapper install03:37
disco_stuInternal GStreamer error: pad problem.  File a bug.03:37
bimberihi lala, welcome!03:37
Protocol14 months along here03:37
Teh_b-radis there a GUI installer for Dmix03:38
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amphiWarbo: uhuh03:38
kavefishI'm in the process of switching from Fedora Core to Ubuntu, but my LCD is only working in text mode.  How can I install packages a la yum from the command line?03:38
XenguyFoxHound01: should be fine03:38
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amphiTeh_b-rad: no, but the alsa howto at tldp.org describes how to do it IIRC; there may be relevant info under /usr/share/doc/alsa*03:39
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Xenguykavefish: sudo apt-get install ________03:39
amphikavefish: apt-get install <package_name>03:39
Teh_b-radsudo dpkg -i03:39
Teh_b-radlol03:39
djrkavefish: Why would you want to use "yum" when Ubuntu has apt as it's Debian based?03:39
Warboamphi: Actually I tried it before running a Kanotix LiveCD (which includes eagle-usb) and setting up a connection to Dapper box. They wouldn't see each other though (and graphical tools took an age to load on 400MHz LiveCD system). That's why I reverted the Dapper back to Breezy. Any ideas why it didn't work?03:40
kavefishXenguy, amphi: what is the equivalent of the kernel-devel RPM?03:40
amphidjr: he was asking what the ubuntu equivalent is03:40
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biovorewhats in kernel-devel?03:40
kavefishI need a kernel module build environment03:40
amphiWarbo: no03:40
djramphi: Oh ok03:40
biovoreapt-get install linux-headers03:40
kavefishcool03:40
kavefishthanks03:40
Warboamphi: Thanks03:40
amphiWarbo: ;)03:40
FoxHound01ok, thanks for the feedback, because i have been running Xubuntu Flight 6 on a P4 2.1GHz (1.6GHz OC'd) w/512MB of ram without ANY performance issues03:41
kavefishoff to breath life into Xorg03:41
kavefishthanks for the help03:41
WarboFoxHound01: XFCE uses few resources anyway03:41
King-of-no-pantsamphi: I cant find bootmisc.sh03:41
kavefishoh, before I go, will all the necessary repo's be enabled?03:41
FoxHound01right, so i was wondering if Gnome was going to be a "big" resource hog, and whether or not it was going to be an issue, sounds like it will run just fine03:42
kavefishand how might I enable more from the command line?03:42
bimberiKing-of-no-pants: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh03:42
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amphiKing-of-no-pants: that's what it is here (I'm on debian ATM) - anything that looks likely?03:42
King-of-no-pantsthanks03:42
WarboFoxHound01: I have around 300MB RAM and a AMD 2000+ (about 1.6GHz) and I can run GNOME fine with XGL stuff all over the place :)03:43
kavefishnvm -- google is my friend03:43
amphiKing-of-no-pants: ah, sorry, did I not give the full path?03:43
King-of-no-pantsamphi: yeah, we figured it out, thou03:43
kavefishcheers03:43
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King-of-no-pantsamphi: no crash yet, with the wifi disabled03:43
amphiKing-of-no-pants: locate bootmisc.sh would have found it for you03:44
amphiKing-of-no-pants:  bas le ndiswrapper!03:44
King-of-no-pantsill keep that in mind03:44
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King-of-no-pantsI need ndiswrapper!03:44
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amphiKing-of-no-pants: pervert03:44
WarboI know Linux talks to itself via TCP/IP for some things, is there any way a PCI network card could screw this up? (I think mine does)03:44
WarboWiFi I mean03:45
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amphiWarbo: I don't see how03:45
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Warboamphi: I get really weird errors when I try to boot. It worked fine at first and I got on the network straight away, but whenever I boot it up with it in since then it stops in text mode with stupid erors03:46
jadaz87does anyone know of a list of all the unneeded packages in ubuntu because i have a list of all installed packages and it is 19 pages long lol i am trying to get rid of packages on a livcd03:46
eneriedhello03:46
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Warbojadaz87: Install what you know you want and mark everything else for uninstallation, unless it unmarks what you want installed03:47
amphiWarbo: wierd errors?03:47
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amphi*weird03:47
enerieddoes anybody knows where to find the enterprise edition of Ubuntu?03:47
King-of-no-pantsamphi: the script line didn't work03:47
jadaz87Warbo i am doing this inside of chroot03:47
Warboamphi: It seems like it's loopback network doesn't work. I can't try it now 'cos I'm not at home, but I don't know what causes it03:48
_jasoneneried: no such thing?03:48
eneriedwe read and find something about the standard and enterprise edition, but we want to know how to get the enterprise edition now03:48
amphiKing-of-no-pants: you need to adjust it to taste I believe03:48
j0hanneshi. anybody here who is expert in X?03:48
Warbojadaz87: I know, I have built my fair share of Live CDs (with 7zip compression :))03:48
King-of-no-pantsamphi: yeah, i think i have it03:48
eneried_jason, there's no Enterprise edition?03:48
eneriedbut ubuntu page said that!03:48
_jasoneneried: really? where?03:48
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amphiWarbo: check that lo is up perhaps? and that the wifi iface hasn't got 127.0.0.1 by some madness?03:49
Warboeneried: There is no "enterprise edition". The regular Ubuntu is good enough for anybody (meant in a good way)03:49
jimcooncateneried, there is no distinction03:49
Warboamphi: Doesn't let me get to a shell even03:49
djrj0hannes: Expert in X in what way?03:49
amphieneried: ubuntu professional enterprise datacenter server?03:49
harisundDoes anybody know what the gnome-pty-helper process does? The longer I leave my computer on, the more the number of these processes seem to crop up.03:49
eneriedread it here under Enterprise Editions: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases03:49
King-of-no-pantsamphi: i just found that i missed a /03:49
jimcooncatthe crew of the enterprise never had to put up with that!03:49
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jadaz87Warbo what should i do then if i am chrooted? (how do i use the 7zip comression? :-) :-) :-) :-)   )03:49
King-of-no-pantsjust an aging problem...03:49
amphiWarbo: you could boot it with init=/bin/bash and see what you can see03:49
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_jasonharisund: it's related to the gnome-terminal, I've seen a bug somewhere about it03:50
King-of-no-pantsdang genetic engineering03:50
eneriedamphi, that sound like windows etc etc etc03:50
harisund_jason ok cool. So I am safe in killing it, right?03:50
_jasonharisund: I did :)03:50
biovorergr03:50
harisund_jason: Also, what is nautilus cd-burner mapping daemon? I don't have a CD burner at all ! and I definitely don't wantit running.03:50
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Warbojadaz87: If you are chrooted then I use aptitude (although it is recommended that you don't 'cos it makes loads of temp files, but they are less space than the packages removed by aptitude) for 7zip you need a different version of create_compressed_image03:51
amphieneried: I imagine any 'enterprise version' is a matter of support, dunno03:51
dj-fu03:51
dj-fusweet, auto replace03:51
eneriedamphi, oh i see03:51
King-of-no-pantsim watchin trek at the moment03:51
newuserXenguy: are you familiar with rp-pppoe03:51
amphieneried: but I could be wrong03:51
_jasonharisund: don't know about that one03:51
j0hannesdjr: who knows about drivers and so03:51
jadaz87warbo just type aptitude in the chroot?03:51
amphieneried: what are you looking for in this 'enterprise version'?03:51
eneriedharisund check the serpentine package03:51
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Warbojadaz87: I have been looking for a while now for the one I found which did include 7zip, but for a guide that I used you can look here http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Knoppix_Remastering_Howto03:51
tritium_Warbo: that's not true that aptitude is not recommended.03:52
djrharisund: look in System->Preferences->"Removeable Drives and media"03:52
eneriedharisund i think this is the nautilus embeded burner03:52
j0hannesdjr: i tried to fix a problem of my x-system which frozes my computer fronm time to time03:52
Warbotritium_: Well the places I went to (remastering KNOPPIX) said so.03:52
tritium_Warbo: that's not our position03:52
djrj0hannes: Frozes in what way?03:53
harisunddjr: I know. I did that. I mean, I disabled the "Burn a CD when a blank CD  is inserted option" Still it doesn't seen to go. but it is safe to kill, right?03:53
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protok0lhello all03:53
Warbotritium_: Well a couple of times a ran a nested X server and used Synaptic from with the chroot. Surely that is frowned upon (come on, I've got to be breaking SOME rules)03:53
Warboprotok0l: Hello03:53
amphiWarbo: lamentably conventional ;)03:54
djrharisund: Should be, I don't know as I have 3 CD-burners attached to my system03:54
j0hannesdjr: no more reactions. the only way out: the power-button03:54
harisunddjr: lol.. ok no problem.. thanks a ton.03:54
King-of-no-pantsamphi: "sudo -u jesse sh -c "cd /home/jesse/F@H; ./go""03:54
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jadaz87Folding @ Home?King-of-no-pants03:54
Mulderedgy eft is the codename after dapper?03:54
protok0ldoes anyone know where i can find a firefox package for the recent versions? its trying to upgrade the old firefox i have and it'll mess up the binary of the new version. google was no help.03:54
jadaz87!ff1.503:54
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion03:54
newuseranyone familiar with rp-pppoe?03:54
King-of-no-pantsamphi: the first set of parenthesis doesn't exist in the bootmisc.sh file03:54
protok0lthanks!03:55
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djrharisund: Sounds like the wrong video card driver to me.03:55
King-of-no-pantsjadaz87: yes03:55
amphiKing-of-no-pants: what parentheses?03:55
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King-of-no-pantsamphi: er, quotes03:55
MortuisHow to I specify a public key when using sftp?03:55
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amphiKing-of-no-pants: you don't need the outermost quotes, if that's what you mean03:55
King-of-no-pantsamphi: they aren't in it03:55
JinkgunsAlright, I have a laptop with a DVD drive, a DVD in the drive and I used Easy Ubuntu to install a dvd decoder, but when I click on the drive in "computer" I get "cannot mount/bad fs" error. Any ideas?03:56
King-of-no-pantsamphi: i just typed them now03:56
amphiKing-of-no-pants: so, what are you saying?03:56
King-of-no-pantsamphi: it isnt loading F@H03:56
WarboJinkguns: If you want to play it just choose the drive inside Totem (or similar)03:56
j0hannesdjr: i asked here for possible reasons and was told that it could be the video card driver03:56
amphiKing-of-no-pants: does ~/F@H/go exist? is it executable?; the way to debug this stuff is to run the commands from the command line03:57
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King-of-no-pantsamphi: yes03:57
King-of-no-pantsamphi: and yes03:57
Jinkgunsokay03:57
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amphiKing-of-no-pants: if go doesn't terminate, you might want to append an &03:57
rukuarticAny way I can find out what programs are sending out data through an interface?03:57
King-of-no-pantsamphi: ?03:58
amphiKing-of-no-pants: what is the problem?03:58
jadaz87hello i was wondering what is the ubuntu-standard package?03:58
djrj0hannes: To fix it you have to edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf  in the Video section03:58
King-of-no-pantsamphi: its not loading folding at home at startup03:58
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Warbojadaz87: It depends on the standard packages used in an ubuntu installation03:58
amphiKing-of-no-pants: but it works fine if you type the commands yourself?03:58
King-of-no-pantsamphi: yeah03:59
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j0hannesdjr: i edited it many times :)03:59
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djrj0hannes" edited it in what ways?03:59
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amphiKing-of-no-pants: does it give no error msg when run from bootmisc.sh?03:59
djrj0hannes: Edited it in what ways?04:00
j0hannesdjr: i changed driver and resolution04:00
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King-of-no-pantsamphi: i dont think so, when I type "sudo ./go" into the command line (in the F@H directory), it loads F@H04:00
j0hannesdjr: tried to put the desktop on a different screen04:00
djrj0hannes: What card do you have?04:00
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TrixyAlright, now I have a real question. I have Xorg displaying properly on both of my monitors, but before I messed with my system my Gnome bars stayed on my left monitor and didn't span across. Also, fullscreen applications only fullscreened to one window. What do I do to make my configuration do that again?04:00
j0hannesdjr: now i'm running the vesa driver and will soon know if it causes the same problem04:00
MortuisI have a public key for a server and want to scp or sftp or something so I can log in and browse around and stuff. Is there software anyone can recommend to me to do this?  sftp doesn't seem to have an option to specify a public key to connect with.04:00
j0hannesdjr: an ati mobility radeon 900004:01
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amphiKing-of-no-pants: a) why do you need to use sudo when you are running it as your user? and b) how have you tested starting it from the init script?04:01
AngryElfhey all, i've got linux-source-2.6.12 installed, but a ./configure script is still complaining about needeing kernel source.....is there another package to install?04:01
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djrj0hannes: In a portable correct?04:01
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amphij0hannes: the radeon driver should support that (ati in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg)04:02
King-of-no-pantsamphi: i use sudo, because when i run it without sudo, it doesn't work.  B. I've restarted the machine04:02
nemikso i can't get past GDM on dapper. i log in, get the brown background, screen goes black, then i'm back at the gdm to log in again. what is wrong?04:02
Trixycome on, guys, someone has to know how to answer my bonehead question04:02
Jinkguns"failed to find mountpoint for device /dev/hdc in /etc/fstab" when I try to play a dvd in totem, recommendations?04:02
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damian_why would my /etc/resolv.conf reset itself after i modify it?04:02
amphiKing-of-no-pants: it needs root perms to run?04:02
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amphidamian_: dhcp can do that04:02
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WarboAngryElf: You probable have to tell it where the kernel source is (point it to the linux-headers rather than linux-source) try ./configure --help04:02
MortuisAngryElf: I think you need linux-headers-2.6.12, but I'm no expert04:02
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damian_ahh, didn't even think about that04:02
King-of-no-pantsamphi: apparently04:02
damian_how can i turn dhcp off :| lol04:02
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arrickanyone: Is ext3 supposed to be more stable than all other formats?04:03
suyogi lost my terminals, except the 7th(graphical) one. how do i get them back? any help?04:03
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amphiKing-of-no-pants: ugh - well, then it's obvious why it's failing from bootmisc.sh04:03
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amphiKing-of-no-pants: I wouldn't run it if it needs root perms, myself04:03
FoxHound01does Ubuntu w/ Gnome run better with more ram or a faster processor? (P4 1.6GHz w/384MB or AMD AthlonXP 2100+ w/256MB)04:03
Warboarrick: Supposedly. It is supposed to be easier to recover from corruption mainly04:03
King-of-no-pantsamphi:  "./go: line 2: folding.log: permission denied"04:04
djrarrick: stable in what way? Ext3 works and I like it. <GRIN>04:04
pipHello,I need help04:04
suyogsomeone, please?04:04
JinkgunsFoxHound01, usually more then 512mb isn't noticeable, But I'd recommend 512mb at least.04:04
arrickWarbo, how aout when the partition is reognized, and had files in it earlier today, but now I can seem to find files in it?04:04
amphiKing-of-no-pants: where is folding.log? what ownership and perms?04:04
Warboarrick: I don't know. If you lose files check in lost+found in the root of the partition04:05
amphiKing-of-no-pants: we progress ;)04:05
King-of-no-pantsamphi: /home/F@H04:05
djrFoxHound01: More RAM first, but it depends on how you use the system04:05
j0hannesdjr: yes, a sony vaio. i read that the standard driver would be right. anyhow the system freezed every time i started synaptics for example04:05
amphiKing-of-no-pants: permissions and owner?04:05
FoxHound01well im fixing computers for a friend, and have those two systems (with different ram (PC133 and DDR266)) so i was wondering which system to install Ubuntu onto04:05
suyogsomeone please help me get back my terminals :(04:05
King-of-no-pantsamphi: file owner: root, File group: root04:05
WarboFoxHound01: Both :)04:05
amphiKing-of-no-pants: duh04:05
King-of-no-pantsamphi: yeah04:05
CNAPhow long has dapper drake been out for?04:06
disco_stuwhat command would i type to find out what version of ubuntu im running04:06
zcat[1] hmmm -- cs4237 - supported or not? I've found one page that says definately yes, but another page that says no, and no module that works with it :-(04:06
King-of-no-pantsamphi: how can i change that?04:06
j0hannesdjr: or tried do something more relativ to grafics04:06
FoxHound01Warbo: only if they like Ubuntu on one system, then it will go on both04:06
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amphiKing-of-no-pants: sudo chown foo.bar folding.log or whatever it's called04:06
WarboCNAP: It's not officially out yet04:06
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King-of-no-pantsamphi: ?04:06
j0hannesdjr: running xfce it freezes in between the first minute of running it04:06
_jasondisco_stu: lsb_release -a04:06
arrickwhat is the command to change the grp of the folder, sudo chgrp -R admin /home/arrick/etc1 ?04:06
zcat[1] ahh nm, found something to try :)04:06
amphiKing-of-no-pants: change the owner of the file to your user and make sure you have write perms to the log file04:06
j0hannesdjr: now on icewm i can avoid it by only using xterm :)04:06
pipCan I play computer games on ubuntu ? such as Football games ,or some big games04:07
defendguinanyone have an idea of when gaim 2.0 is gonna make it into dapper?04:07
_jasonarrick: yes that will do everything in it too04:07
WarboFoxHound01: Just a joke, although people seem to be put off by dual booting. I've always found it really easy and had no problems (but I've always used different partitions since I was 4)04:07
King-of-no-pantsamphi: all the checkboxes are greyed out04:07
Hobbseedefendguin: it's not04:07
zcat[1] btw; where did the ltmodem drivers go? they were in warty iirc but don't seem to be working in breezy or dapper :(04:07
CNAPok, if not officially out then why is there already another upgrade for that out???04:07
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arrickthanks _jason could remember if it was the correct syntax04:07
amphiKing-of-no-pants: checkboxes??? just do it in a shell alraedy ;)04:07
defendguinHobbsee: that stinks04:07
Nick5768CNAP: it's in beta?04:07
djrj0hannes: What driver and settings does Sayno or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ recommend?04:07
arrickok I got my files back thanks guys04:07
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arrickwhew04:07
King-of-no-pantsamphi: I dont know the commands...04:07
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FoxHound01I'm not put off by dual booting at all, I just wasn't going to go through the work on installing WinXP on two dual booted systems only to have them like Ubuntu enough to use it all the time04:08
Warbopip: You can play lots of simple games which come with Ubuntu, download extra ones from the repositories, emulate pretty much anythinkg and virtualise Windows games04:08
CNAPbut wait, dapper drake is in beta too... i'm thinking the development versioning methodology is kind of whack at ubuntu...04:08
amphiKing-of-no-pants: open a term, cd F@H, and do chown jesse.jesse folding.log or whatever it's called (and whatever your username is ;)04:08
defendguinHobbsee: if people are going to be using dapper until its end-of-life they are going to be stuck with 1.x for a long time and 2.0 is so much better04:08
Nick5768CNAP: I was referring to dapper drake04:08
WarboFoxHound01: I mean people think their system is going to break. I dual booted someone's laptop with Slackware (all I had available at the time) and he treated it VERY cautiously04:08
amphiKing-of-no-pants: you need to know this stuff ;)04:09
MadpilotCNAP, the post-Dapper version hasn't been released yet, just announced (Edgy Eft, apparently)04:09
_jasondefendguin: isn't 2.0 still beta?04:09
Nick5768btw ubuntu has perhaps the greatest naming system ever04:09
King-of-no-pantsamphi: Im learning04:09
FoxHound01Warbo: i hear ya, i think ill just go with Ubuntu on the P4, and WinXP on the AthlonXP04:09
King-of-no-pantsamphi: I'm just new to this stuff04:09
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zcat[1] what's after edgy? farty?04:09
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defendguin_jason: yeah its in beta but so is dapper.  its in beta3 and pretty stable04:10
amphiFoxHound01: dont dualboot, just run legacy oses under qemu ;)04:10
djk_Nick5768: debian does.04:10
Hobbseedefendguin: that is true.  but there are policies already in place for upstream version freezes, etc.  besides, most desktop users (ie, not for servers) will update to the next stable release when it comes out, and will more or less get the latest and greatest then.04:10
King-of-no-pantsamphi: Ive mastered sudo...04:10
Warbozcat[1] : Farty Fox04:10
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Warbo:)04:10
amphiKing-of-no-pants: no worries04:10
schtinkydo the logical /boot partitions in my raid1 array need to be bootable or primary?04:10
_jasondefendguin: well the purpose of dapper is to be stable on June 1st :)04:10
j0hannesdjr: what is "Sayno"?04:10
CNAPyeah edgy eft04:10
arrickok, _jason I have mannny music files on my ubuntu server, how do I link to play them in my windows box?04:11
amphiKing-of-no-pants: FWIW, there's a handy 'intro to linux' book you can d/l from tldp.org that covers this stuff04:11
djrj0hannes: A misspell on my part.04:11
zcat[1] starting on edgy when dapper isn't even out seems a little premature to me..04:11
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SaLoMoNre04:11
Warboamphi: I know someone with Win98 on a pretty powerful computer and I gave him Ubuntu (after fixing Windows) and dd'd his Windows into a file, then told him that he can start his old Windows system by clicking a button. He thought it was great04:11
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defendguin_jason: i would hope gaim 2.0 would be released long before then04:11
SaLoMoNgn804:11
amphiWarbo: heheh04:11
_jasonarrick: possibly samba?  I'm not really sure04:12
j0hannesdjr: ah, ok. sony recommends the windows xp ati driver :)04:12
arrickthanks _jason04:12
FoxHound01hahaha, i just realized that i had killed my record with WinXP, it had made it all the way to 15days of uptime, then i bumped the reset button :(04:12
zcat[1] anyway.. my question? where did ltmodem.ko go?04:12
djrj0hannes: Someone on "laptop net" has solved to settings problem, I'm pretty sure.04:12
amphiWarbo: qemu could have used the original partition though, no?04:12
Hobbseedefendguin: even if it is, it'll probably break things on ubuntu, making ubuntu unstable04:12
cowlikkhow do i use vncveiwer anyone04:12
arrickAnyone: other than Samba, how do I access my music files over my ubuntu/windows network?04:12
amphiFoxHound01: 15 days? heh04:12
TrixyI'm running XGL spanned across two monitors. It's really cool. But is there any way I can make windows snap to only one monitor when I maximize them, and keep all the gnome stuff on the left monitor?04:12
zcat[1] cowlikk: vncviewer host.name.or.ip04:12
defendguinHobbsee: i doubt that04:13
djk_Hobbsee: how would gaim accomplish that?04:13
_jasondefendguin: you have to find someone who understands the process better than me but I believe dapper is past the point where new software can be added (since this isn't support we can continue in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want)04:13
Warboamphi: I didn't want him to run Ubuntu inside Ubuntu, and if he had the option of booting straight to Windows in GRUB he would never go on Ubuntu04:13
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cowlikkvncviewer 192.168.1.1??? like that04:13
zcat[1] cowlikk: first you need a host running vncserver.04:13
King-of-no-pantsamphi: well, the wifi card is definately the culprit04:13
Hobbseedefendguin: djk_ doesnt it use different libraries or something?  anyway, #ubuntu-offtopic04:13
cafuegoTrixy: That's a window manager function; I doubt compiz can do that at this stage.04:13
cowlikkmy bro's comp04:13
nemikhow would i fix "FAILED TO INITIALIZE HAL!" in gnome; i can only enter gnome using failsafe....04:13
Trixythanks cafuego.04:14
defendguinHobbsee: gaim 1.x is crappy at best it cant handle a laptop going into suspend.  it crashes when you bring the laptop back up.04:14
amphiWarbo: ah04:14
zcat[1] cowlikk: yeah, that should work. also helps if there are no firewalls or stuf in the way :-)04:14
defendguinHobbsee: let me find the bug that is killing me04:14
cowlikkhe has a router04:14
amphiKing-of-no-pants: not the card, probably, but the evil Redmondian driver in its plain wrapper04:14
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Warbonemik: Does your regular bootup work? I've only had that message when running /etc/init.d/gdm start from a single user mode04:14
zcat[1] bro's comp is running 'doze?04:14
FoxHound01when my Xubuntu system attempts to boot, it always stops doing anything and says "booting the kernel..... ok!" how can i fix that?04:14
King-of-no-pantsamphi: well, yeah04:14
defendguinHobbsee: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gaim/+bug/3266804:15
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amphiKing-of-no-pants: try not to shove binary blobs up your kernel ;)04:15
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nemikwarbo: no, regular bootup just displays background then goes back then takes me back to gdm; over and over again04:15
shentuhi04:15
CNAPhow do you find the uptime of your linux box04:15
King-of-no-pantsamphi: the F@H works... :)04:15
amphiCNAP: er, uptime(1)04:15
_jasonCNAP: 'uptime'04:15
zcat[1] CNAP: 'uptime' should work04:15
FoxHound01i use GkrellM04:15
XenguyCNAP: type uptime04:15
Xenguy;-04:15
Xenguy)04:15
djrFoxHound01: You don't unless you want to remake the entire startup system.04:15
shentuanybody know how to disable x-server on startup?04:15
defendguinHobbsee: as far as i know it was built on 2.14 i cant see why is would use a different library04:15
amphiKing-of-no-pants: and you've met chown(1) ;)04:15
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amphishentu: update-rc.d -f gdm remove04:16
Warbonemik: Well if you use the recovery mode bootup and start GNOME you will get that message about HAL. The recovery mode doesn't start a load of services (that's the point of recovery mode) including the hotplug/HAL daemon04:16
zcat[1] shentu: unplug the mouse, seems to kill it nicely :)04:16
King-of-no-pantsamphi: i see i have04:16
amphishentu: er, with sudo in front04:16
CNAPXenguy, oh CNAP ! that was easy ;-)04:16
FoxHound01djr: and how would i remake the entire startup system? (what does it involve, and does it erase everything?)04:16
amphiCNAP: and what did it reveal?04:16
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j0hannesdjr: there are two sites containing information about my laptop model. both dont report problems with grafics04:16
nemikWarbo: also i'm on dapper if that helps any. but why won't it go in and is just kicking me back to gdm?04:17
CNAP22:15:32 up 8 days,  4:54,  2 users,  load average: 4.02, 3.73, 3.0704:17
CNAPcan we break this down? why is there 2 users? when i type "users" i only get my user name.04:17
amphiCNAP: why is your load avg that high?04:17
arrickAnyone: other than Samba, how do I access my music files over my ubuntu/windows network?04:17
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King-of-no-pantsamphi: and gaim doesn't startup anymore04:17
amphiCNAP: type who04:17
CNAPalso what are the numbers next to load average mean?04:17
zcat[1] shentu: or mv /etc/rc2.d/S19gdm /etc/rc2.d/K19gdm (number from memory, also might be kdm or xdm if you don't use gnome)04:17
djrFoxHound01: You'd have to edit the initrd and build a custom kernel04:17
CNAPamphi: pts/0 is the other user acount04:17
Hobbseedefendguin: it may be brought in, like networkmanager was, i dont know.  but i wouldnt hold my breath over it04:17
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Eighthi just plugged my 200G (1 part, ext3) drive into my newly reloaded ubuntu box and it's not being recognized as valid.04:18
shentuamphi, I just want to temporary to disable xserver to update video card driver. if I use your method, will I uninstall xserver permenantly?04:18
amphiCNAP: moreorless, they are the number of programs in 'ready to run' state, ie. waiting for a timeslice04:18
MistaEDwhat is networkmanager?04:18
Eighthi am getting "Disk /dev/hdg doesn't contain a valid partition table04:18
Eighth"04:18
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Warbonemik: Well sometimes in Dapper GDM crashes on me and I get a message "trying another program" and I get a more basic login screen. Your problem sounds more like something going wrong with gnome startup. There is a file /home/username/.gnome2/gnome-session (I think) which has any extra startup programs. Disable those if there are any.04:18
King-of-no-pantsamphi: can I uninstall the 'ol ndiswrapper, and try it again?04:18
FoxHound01djr: ok, im game for doing it, do you have a page that explains what i would need to do in order to edit initrd and build a custom kernel?04:18
MadpilotEighth, you need to mount it, probably - or maybe reformat it04:18
zcat[1] shentu: ahh.. from a text login "/etc/init.d/gdm stop"04:18
amphishentu: no, but you'll disable gui login permanently; you want sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop04:18
j0hannesdjr: i'll try radeon as driver instead of vesa04:18
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Eighthreformatting is not an option04:18
damian_how can i manually set up ip/gateway instead of using dhcp (perminant) ?04:18
djrFoxHound01: Something I haven't bothered with and I've been running Linux since a 0.9 kernel04:18
Eighthbefore the reload, it was working great04:18
amphiKing-of-no-pants: who can prevent you?04:19
tybaltGrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreetings!04:19
King-of-no-pantsamphi: I don't really know how....04:19
suyogmy ctrl+alt+F1 does not work anymore!! any help?04:19
arrickEighth, try sudo fdisk /dev/hda04:19
rukuarticsuyog: It takes a bit if your CPU's bogged down04:19
_sHaDen8 all04:19
FoxHound01djr: ok, well.... hmm, because I don't want to lose that system. or is there a way to get into it, and save the few files i need, and then just reinstall everything?04:19
amphiKing-of-no-pants: nor I, I've had no truck with the thing04:19
rukuarticsuyog: Didja disable tty1?04:19
arricksee if the partition is there by typing p04:19
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Eightharrick: hda is part of my raid (along w/ hdd)04:19
iLLf8dhey all is there a way to use debian as an installer for ubuntu?04:19
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suyogno, i didn't disable any tty04:19
iLLf8die roll deb to ubu04:20
King-of-no-pantsamphi: now i cant open the package manager04:20
amphiCNAP: the 3 laod avg values are for the past 1, 5, & 15 minutes04:20
CNAPamphi: 4.02, 3.73, 3.07 are the number of programs ready to run??04:20
King-of-no-pantsamphi: it says atp-get is running04:20
CNAPoh ok04:20
djrFoxHound01: Sure boot a Live CD and copy what you want to save to a safe location.04:20
iLLf8dfor some reason the deb installer works and the ubuntu one doesn't04:20
WarboiLLf8d: I broke my Debian this way.04:20
CNAPamphi: do you know what pts/0  is?04:20
suyogand my system is not bogged down. but all terminals except f7 do not work anymore04:20
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_jasonamphi: for the load values in 'uptime', what are the units?  what man page contains the info?04:20
amphiCNAP: basically, you have 4 progs being busy, it seems; top would show them to you04:20
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rukuarticsuyog: Whats the last thing you did before it stopped working?04:20
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fenstahey guys04:21
iLLf8dWarbo, I like deb in and of itself but I was gonna checkout ubu and it wouldn't install04:21
fenstawhen is the new rls?04:21
zcat[1] what's the exact maths behind loadavg? number of procs waiting for system calls or something?04:21
djrFoxHound01: I have 3 diffent root file systems on my 250G drive04:21
suyogit happened after i dpkg-reconfigure xorg04:21
_jason!dapper04:21
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)04:21
shentuzcat and amphi: Thank you very much!04:21
iLLf8dWarbo, having trouble fixing it?04:21
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Warbosuyog: Maybe something up with GNOME and/or Xorg config? I got that problem (try Windows key and something. Does that work?)04:21
FoxHound01djr: ok, thanks, do you think a knoppix cd would do that easily enough? (i already have one burned)04:21
fenstathx jason04:21
amphi_jason: not man uptime ;) I think I read it in Bach's 'Design of the Unix Operating System'04:21
arrickEighth, is that the one it is not seing?04:21
iLLf8dWarbo, just make sure you castrate it back enough and you can redeb it04:21
_jasonamphi: ah ok, I'll search for it thanks04:21
amphiCNAP: you have a terminal open04:21
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Eightharrick: yeah, i'm getting the "no valid partition table" on hdg04:22
WarboiLLf8d: I just used the Breezy install disc (well, it was kubuntu and was still in development at the time)04:22
Eighthjust booted another sys w/ dna linux and it was recognized no problem04:22
amphi_jason: tDotUOS is a good book, BTW, although old04:22
djrFoxHound01: I used to use a knoppix as a Rescue CD04:22
zcat[1] and can someone tell me where my ltmodem drivers went after hoary?04:22
arrickEighth, sorry, try that command with the invalid partition04:22
zcat[1] <sigh>04:22
Eighthi have the drive running off of a siimage 0680 card04:22
djrFoxHound01: I used my Ubuntu Live CD last time04:22
suyogit works fine before the gdm starts. but after gdm starts, the terminals cease existing.04:22
Eightharrick: i get no partition information for this drive04:22
amphiCNAP: it's a 'pseudo-terminal' AFAIK - I don't know much about linux terminal voodoo04:23
Warbodjr: Does KNOPPIX have LVM?04:23
arricktype p04:23
CNAPamphi: like term emulation?04:23
arricknothing?04:23
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j0hannesdjr: ok, the system doesn't hang. running vesa driver doesn't cause the problem i had with ati04:23
zcat[1] suyog: 'chvt 1' in a terminal?04:23
djrWarbo: That I don't know about the later versions04:23
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amphiCNAP: more like the terminal emulator's interface to the kernel's terminal magic, I think04:24
zcat[1] suyog: ctl-alt-F1 gets a blank screen, or stays in X?04:24
suyogyes!!! chvt 1 works!!!04:24
Eightharrick: nothing... i get drive information, but nothing about partitions04:24
suyogctrl alt f1 stays on X04:24
Eighthit's gotta be this stupid card...04:24
arrickEighth, do you know the type of partition you had on it?04:24
WarboCNAP: A "proper" terminal as far as Linux knows is a serial device. Any other command line inside Linux is emulating one of these (That's why /dev/TTY are serial devices and TTY are consoles)04:24
Eighthext3, 200G04:24
zcat[1] suyog: ok, problem is something in X is changing what ctrl-alt-Fn does04:24
Xoritoranyone using dapper (amd64) having issues with nvidia drivers04:24
rukuarticzcat[1] : Nice catch!04:24
Xoritor?04:24
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suyogi see. so, i have to modify xorg.conf?04:25
arrickits gotta be the card if it is recognized on another computer04:25
MortuisIs there a linux version of Win_SCP?04:25
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MortuisOr equivalent?04:25
Eightharrick: what sucks is i seem to remember having this problem before, but i fixed it somehow04:25
amphiMortuis: scp ?04:25
suyogthanks zcat!! u saved me a reinstallation!! :)04:25
WarboMortuis: What does it do?04:25
djrMortuis: Check out "gftp" it's close in some ways.04:25
arrickEighth, drivers?04:25
cafuegoMortuis: Places -> Connect to Server ->  Service Type: SSH04:26
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MortuisAmphi: scp won't let me browse the host04:26
zcat[1] nautilus will handle scp:// won't it?04:26
WarboXoritor: Dapper recently upgraded nvidia driver and some people are having problems. Try #ubuntu+104:26
cafuegozcat[1] : yah04:26
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MortuisWarbo: It does secure ftp connections04:26
XoritorWarbo, no one is answering me over there... so i tried here ;-)04:26
gboutwellCan't seem to get an isa 3c509 nic to work in ubuntu, anyone have any pointers?04:26
Mortuisdjr: Does gftp let me use a public key to connect?04:26
Eightharrick: i thought i had to only load siimage module, but apparently not04:26
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Eighthdunno what other drivers i would need04:27
Phlostenan ISA network card, have fun04:27
WarboXoritor: Well I broke mine with the nvidia package, so now I am soley using that (I don;t want to upgrade my kernel just for nvidia driver)04:27
djrMortuis: Then with nautilus you can just open a "sftp://" location04:27
cafuegoMortuis: You don't need gftp, in Gnome your file manager supports ssh out of the box.04:27
amphiMortuis: sftp perhaps04:27
gboutwellthe module loads, but then networking restart doesn't start the device, ifconfig eth0 up gives that the device doesn't exist.04:27
WarboXoritor: Only problem is Xgl doesn't work now. Oh well, it's too young at the moment04:27
KrakensDenI've had two hard X crashes in two days [IE, couldn't switch to another virtual console] 04:27
KrakensDenare there any logfiles I can check?04:27
XoritorWarbo, lol04:27
amphiKrakensDen: what card?04:28
gboutwellPhlosten: yeah... it works in most other linuxes.04:28
XoritorWarbo, yea... i hear ya04:28
arrickEighth, maybe a driver for the card?04:28
KrakensDenamphi, i81004:28
zcat[1] gboutwell: apart from modprobe 3c50x or whatever? assuming yo already tried the obvious..04:28
djrMortuis: Yes I think so.  Note I really a command-line junky04:28
arrickI dont know04:28
KrakensDenamphi, well, i82504:28
Eightharrick: could be... i'll keep looking04:28
XoritorWarbo, i dont care bout it too much but would like to have the ability to play nwn this weekend...04:28
KrakensDenamphi, but IIRC it uses the i810 driver04:28
amphiKrakensDen: dunno about that one - does the man page for the driver have any info?04:28
arrickI had to change permissions and everything on mine, but it was originally ntfs04:28
djrMortuis: So I normally just use "scp" or "ssh" to do my transfers.04:28
biovoresftp ownz04:29
KrakensDenamphi, didn't check it. Whups04:29
WarboXoritor: Well you can get the nvidia package and give it the option "--x-module-dir=/usr/lib/Xorg/modules" or something very similar. You won't have Xgl though04:29
zcat[1] rsync is nice. scp has too much overhead on small files04:29
XoritorWarbo, i dont care about xgl04:29
XoritorWarbo, i just care about glx04:29
KrakensDenamphi, has nothing about logging04:29
Xoritor;-)04:29
arrickok guys, Im checking out for the night04:29
amphiKrakensDen: it may say nothing useful - I had an old s3 card and x hung a lot, and the man page said it was a known issue and had a workaround04:29
cafuegozcat[1] : scp can use compression.04:29
WarboXoritor: Then use that. Just remembered it's "modules" not "module" though. That's what was up with it04:30
zcat[1] tar czf - | ssh me@foo "tar xzf -"04:30
gboutwellzcat[1] : well, if the module loads, why would ifconfig say the device didn't exist?04:30
KrakensDenhmm- it uses the i915 module04:30
cafuegoscp -z9 foo user@bar:/dir04:30
KrakensDenyeah, I think I remember that change around 2.6.5...04:30
XoritorWarbo, what package the one from invidia?04:30
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Xoritors/invidia/nvidia/04:30
Mortuiscafuego: I get "Details: There is no default action associated with this location."04:30
djrzcat[1] : He was asking for a replacement for "Win-Scp"04:30
Mortuiscafuego: Cannot display location04:30
cafuegoMortuis: After doing what...?04:30
WarboXoritor: And be glad that I told you that option. Then you won't have to look through IRC logs in a console. I mean the official ".run" file from their site04:31
zcat[1] yeah, i know.. nautilus.04:31
XoritorWarbo, cool beans superaman... you rock!04:31
cafuegoMortuis: Did you enter a hostname and suername on the connection you set up?04:31
XoritorWarbo, that wont hork anything else will it?04:31
WarboXoritor: I think that was a compliment. Than you04:31
Mortuiscafuego: places->connect to server   SSH, plug in the IP in server, username in user name, "connect" and nothing happens, so I places->click on the connection listed there and get that error message04:32
tritium_Warbo: we recommend the ubuntu nvidia packages here04:32
XoritorWarbo, lol... sorry im a bit goofy this evening04:32
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cowlikkis there a voip program for linux04:32
WarboXoritor: I haven't had any problems. It's just that the option which gets it to work also restricts it to Xorg only (bye bye Xgl)04:32
zcat[1] apt-get install nvidia-glx -- too easy.04:32
cafuegoMortuis: Weird. Can you open a nautilus window, hit ctrl-l and then go to sftp://user@hostname/ ?04:32
cowlikkthat will work with other sound programs04:32
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XoritorWarbo, no problems there, i just want a bit of nwn for the weekend ;-)04:33
Warbotritium_: I've had problems with them and no problems with nvidia .run04:33
Mortuiscafuego: Where is nautilus located?04:33
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cafuegoMortuis: Applications -> Accessories -> File browser04:33
tritium_Warbo: please don't advise that here04:33
Xoritortritium, if you can tell me how to use the amd64 nvidia packages for ubuntu (dapper) then i would gladly use them04:33
Xoritortritium, but the problem is that they DO NOT work04:33
Xoritor;-)04:33
tritium_Warbo: that will install files not under package management04:33
KrakensDenamphi, any ideas where crash information might get logged?04:34
Abnixso, something I've never tried to do, what's it take to enable the svideo out on my nvidia card?04:34
Warbotritium_: I would be happy not to. Would you be happy to advise me on how to get the ubuntu packages to build for my 2.6.15-18-386 kenel?04:34
Xoritortritium, i am aware of that04:34
Mortuiscafuego: "The attempt to log in failed."04:34
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Xoritorand for mine too (2.6.15-20-amd64-k8)04:34
tritium_Xoritor: special circumstances are fine, but not in general04:34
Mortuiscafuego: I know I need to specify my key file when connecting in with my windows app04:34
Xoritor:-D04:34
kavefishI would appreciate any advice for installing the proprietary ati drivers.  The installation is failing, complaining that there is no module build environment04:34
tritium_Warbo: why would you build them?04:34
ElazarCan anyone in here recommend an editor that's good for PHP development in Ubuntu?04:34
cafuegoMortuis: ssh on Linux uses files in ~/.ssh04:35
Xoritortritium, he was only helping me out so that i can play a bit of nwn this weekend04:35
Abnixvi04:35
KrakensDenElazar, what editors have you tried?04:35
ni_elazar, emacs04:35
KrakensDenElazar, otherwise you'll just get vi/emacs partisans04:35
caturOKhello04:35
cafuegoMortuis: Oh, are you only allowed to log in via key authentication?04:35
tritium_Xoritor: that's fine.  As I said, special circumstances are different.04:35
caturOKmorning indonesia04:35
Mortuiscafuego: yeah, key and then passphrase04:35
amphiKrakensDen: /var/log/Xorg.0.log but I doubt you'll see anything useful if it hung04:35
caturOK:P04:35
tritium_the _general_ response is to use ubuntu packages04:35
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Warbotritium_: Sorry but I've had too many problems with the Dapper packages for 15-20 (the 15-18 ones aren't there any more) and I'm probably an expert on nvidia installation since I've had so many problems on so many distributions for so long :(04:35
KrakensDenamphi, yeah, there's nothing useful there04:35
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ElazarKrakensDen: vi/m, emacs, gphpedit, gedit, kate, glimmer.04:35
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cafuegoMortuis: Ok, you'll need to get the key off windows then and replace your Linux key with it.04:35
tritium_Warbo: this isn't a dapper channel, anyway04:35
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ni_elazar, eclipse works nicely too04:36
tylerHey, when I try to download a .skz file it just tries to open it in Konquerer and is all corrupt.  How do i make it download?04:36
Mortuiscafuego: I have the key file, how do I replace the linux key?04:36
SDElazar, i find jedit nice also04:36
Elazarni_: For PHP development?04:36
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KrakensDenSD, if you're down with java04:36
ni_sure04:36
ElazarSD: Hadn't thought about that. I've used it on Windows and liked it well enough.04:36
tritium_Warbo: you may be, but people who try to follow advice they see you giving are likely not always going to be04:36
cafuegoMortuis: Check the dir .ssh in your homedir.04:36
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SDjedit has many plugins04:36
cafuegoMortuis: You'll need id_dsa or id_rsa and an associated .pub file04:36
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Elazarni_: Last I looked at Eclipse, the FTP plug-in was very flaky. Most of my development work isn't local.04:36
Warbotritium_: You did notice that I started my response with "a lot of people are having problems but I got the nvidia package to run" then I pointed out what is bad about the nvidia package (besides, the --uninstall option removes it when Dapper has sorted it out)04:36
KrakensDenElazar, if you're willing to put in time, Vim or Emacs will probably make you more productive than anything else04:36
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ElazarSD: And in the FTP area, jEdit tends to be a little slow.04:37
Mortuiscafuego: all I see in there is known_hosts04:37
KrakensDenElazar, Bluefish is supposed to be nice04:37
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Mortuiscafuego: in .ssh that is04:37
cafuegoMortuis: *nod* Just put the windows keys in there then.04:37
ElazarKrakensDen: I just like my GUI, is all. :P I actually used vim for the quick and dirty server-side stuff.04:37
ni_elazar, dunno about ftp, but i found that eclipse had a svn piece that worked ok04:37
SDtrue true04:37
Warbotritium_: I would only really recommend the official one for a 15-18 kernel which cannot be upgraded to 15-2004:37
cafuegoMortuis: if they're an rsa keypair, make sure they're called `id_rsa' and `id_rsa.pub'04:37
Mortuiscafuego: does the filename matter?04:37
tritium_Warbo: please discuss dapper in #ubuntu+104:37
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cafuegoif they're dsa, make sure they're called `id_ds a' and `id_dsa.pub'04:38
Warbotritium_: I know, I know. I'm done now04:38
ElazarKrakensDen: Bluefish appears to be for HTML in particular.04:38
KrakensDenElazar, gvim has a gui04:38
dustobubI just installed Breezy on an IBM T30 laptop, and after the install, both wired and wireless networking worked fine. After doing a dist-upgrade, all networking broke, I can associate with APs but cant obtain an IP using DHCP. Using static IPs doesn't work either. Can anyone help?04:38
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KrakensDenElazar, da- but it has a PHP mode04:38
zcat[1] tritium_: is there an #ubuntu+2 for discussing edgy yet? :-)04:38
cafuegoKrakensDen: `cream' is vim with a gui.04:38
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Mortuiscafuego: ah, okay.  They are a keypair but I only needed one when connecting from windows (unless it just found the other, they had similar names), so I'll have to copy the other one over.04:38
Warboacat: There is an Ubuntu developers forum04:38
FlannelKingzcat[1] : you're welcome to bring it to -offtopic ;) we've been talking all day04:38
Warbozcat, sorry04:38
KrakensDencafuego, tell that to Elazar :)04:38
mramdid you guys heard about Mark planning a new version of ubuntu?04:38
cafuegozcat[1] : yes04:38
Mortuiscafuego: Thanks a lot, this has been driving me crazy04:39
cafuegoMortuis: :-)04:39
ElazarKrakensDen: Not seeing gvim under Add Applications.04:39
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tritium_zcat[1] : nope ;)04:39
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cafuegoMortuis: In theory, the Places -> thing should work too, now.04:39
ltR20how do i make it so .torrent files  get open with azureus04:39
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Kirk-mythtvwow - busy place!04:40
SDwhen you go Places -> connect to server and you get an icon on your desktop, where is the information that you put in the original dialog actually stored?04:40
XoritorWarbo, thanks again!04:40
mox69how does one disable hotplug on bootup with grub ?04:40
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KrakensDencafuego, I think it might be vim-gtk04:40
XoritorWarbo, ill give that a shot if its not "fixed" before my nwn fest this weekend04:40
Xoritor;-)04:40
WarboltR20: If you use Epiphany then it follows your GNOME preferences. Firefox should ask you04:40
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cafuegoKrakensDen: 'cream'04:40
dustobubhow can i reinstall all network related components on my breezy install?04:40
KrakensDenPassword:04:40
KrakensDenReading package lists... Done04:40
KrakensDenBuilding dependency tree... Done04:40
KrakensDenPackage gvim is a virtual package provided by:04:40
KrakensDen  vim-gtk 1:6.3-078+1ubuntu304:40
King-of-no-pantsamphi: now I just have to get that nvidia driver working04:40
WarboXoritor: OK, but if you do then keep the NVidia .run file so you can use --uninstall04:40
KrakensDen  vim-gnome 1:6.3-078+1ubuntu304:40
corey7i'm a complete nub, how do i edit a text file..they are readonly when i open them with gedit04:41
KrakensDen  vim-tcl 1:6.3-078+1ubuntu304:41
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KrakensDen  vim-python 1:6.3-078+1ubuntu304:41
KrakensDen  vim-perl 1:6.3-078+1ubuntu304:41
cafuego!paste04:41
KrakensDenYou should explicitly select one to install.04:41
ubotuPlease don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL04:41
KrakensDenE: Package gvim has no installation candidate04:41
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Warbocorey7: What are you trying to edit?04:41
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cafuego!info cream04:41
ubotucream: (VIM macros that make the VIM easier to use for beginners), section universe/editors, is optional. Version: 0.32-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 799 kB, Installed size: 2776 kB04:41
amphiKing-of-no-pants: no idea about nvidia04:41
tritium_KrakensDen: don't paste, eh04:41
mramcorey7 they are probably readonly because you need to type in sudo and then the file name04:41
King-of-no-pantsamphi: haven't seen Tennessee all day...04:41
dustobubcorey7, open up a terminal and type "sudo gedit /fileyouwanttoedit"04:42
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KrakensDentritium_, sorry, I was going to pm it, but there was a linebreak :/04:42
amphicorey7: sudo nano whatever04:42
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amphiKing-of-no-pants: TN?04:42
tritium_KrakensDen: no worries04:42
Warbocorey7: If you are trying to edit system settings then you can't do it as a normal user (Ubuntu is secure :))04:42
KrakensDentritium_, so only the first line got pm'd04:42
corey7i want to edit /etc hosts04:42
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amphicorey7: sudo nano /etc/hosts04:42
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alnri have breezy, apt-get mysql-server gives me 4.0.23, looking for 4.1., anyone know how I could get that with apt?04:42
King-of-no-pantsamphi: he was helping me with it yesterday04:42
amphiKing-of-no-pants: ah04:42
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Warbocorey7: Open a terminal (in Accessories) then type gksudo gedit /etc/hosts04:42
amphiKing-of-no-pants: ubotu probably has some idea04:43
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amphi!nvidia04:43
ubotu[nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736804:43
mox69Anyone know the command to disable hotplug when booting? my fresh breezy install seems to be hanging there04:43
corey7isnt working04:43
Warbomox69: Is that wise? Maybe you should sort out the problem instead of just disabling it?04:43
corey7unable to lookup via gethostbyname()04:43
escobar5hello, anybody knows why i ain't getting "OK" in the item "starting hotplug subsystem" when booting? my usb devices are not getting mounted automatically04:43
mox69well id like to get it to boot 1st04:43
amphicorey7: sudo nano /etc/hosts in a term04:43
paloymeanyone know how to install a video driver?04:44
Warboamphi: Beat me to it04:44
mox69and im getting the same thin punmpkin esobar is04:44
Warbopaloyme: nvidia or ati?04:44
cowlikkHELLO IS THERE VOIP PROGRAM FOR LINUX THAT SUPORTS ALSA\04:44
dj-fuekiga, skype04:44
paloymeits a non-nvidia non-ati vidcard:(04:44
amphicowlikk: IRC doesn't support shouting04:44
corey7its a file in /etc named hosts04:44
mramcowlikk i think skype is avaible for linux as well wango04:44
paloymeits an s3 unichrome04:44
tritium_cowlikk: none of that please04:44
dustobubsudo gedit /etc/hosts04:44
corey7thats not working04:45
Warbopaloyme: I think Matrox have an external driver as well. Pretty much everything else is already in the kernel04:45
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dustobubwhat do you mean not working04:45
cafuegodj-fu: Since when does skype do alsa?04:45
dustobubit should ask you for a password04:45
amphicorey7: ' ' is not a substitute for '/'04:45
paloymei found the driver but dont have any idea how to install the .tgz04:45
dustobubtype it out04:45
joelitoYeah but does skype has alsa support..? I dunno04:45
dustobubdont copy04:45
corey7i am04:45
mramcowlikk: you can use easyubuntu to get those two software04:45
corey7i dont have internet on my ubuntu install04:45
paloymeim a new to linux so i really have no idea how to install in anything:(04:45
Warbocafuego: Everything does ALSA doesn't it? Either through a sound server (like ESD), directly or through OSS emulation04:45
joelitopaloyme - as in slackware's tgz?04:45
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amphipaloyme: this is a binary driver?04:46
cowlikkwhere is easy ubuntu04:46
cafuegoWarbo: requiring oss emulation != supporting alsa04:46
SDhas anyone been able to access an smb share through the gui, but NOT through the commandline before?04:46
Warbopaloyme: Then you need to learn your first lesson: Most drivers are already installed. This is not windows :)04:46
Mortuiscafuego: sadly it's still not working.04:46
paloymei have both binary and source, dont know which i should use, so i downloaded both04:46
cafuegoWarbo: That's like saying ndiswrapper isn't an ugly kludge ;-)04:46
corey7my problem is i cannot open up system-administration-networking, i click it and nothing happens04:46
dustobubSD, yes, it works pretty well04:46
paloymei know, i got so used to windows device manager that im really in the dark here:(04:46
dustobubcorey, sounds like something isnt right04:47
amphipaloyme: any docs with them?04:47
Warbocafuego: But OSS is open and so is ALSA, so they can become 100% compatible by studying each other's internals04:47
dj-fucafuego, does oss emulation not count?04:47
paloymebut im not afraid to walk the linux hardware installation tho, as long as i have someone beside me:)04:47
corey7i changed the host in networking to nothing and since then i cant open it04:47
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Mortuiscafuego: It's late, I'm going to flog this horse again some other time.  Thanks for the help.04:47
cafuegodj-fu: nope04:47
Warbopaloyme: Who makes your card?04:47
joelitowell there's an oss compatibility software for alsa04:47
corey7and when ubuntu boots, i get an error type message saying to add something to the file /etc hosts04:47
paloymeyep, theres a readme with the driver, it says about building a viafb module04:48
ElazarKrakensDen: How exactly do you _use_ vim-gtk once it's installed?04:48
paloymeits a via s3 unichrome04:48
mramif i want to setup a server without a gui should i got with ubuntu or debian?04:48
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SDdustobub: i can access the correct server, copy files etc, but the command line mount, no matter how i do it, doesnt work04:48
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joelitoenable universe and then run (sudo apt-get update; apt-get alsa-oss)04:48
Warbopaloyme: try typing "modprobe viafb" into a terminal. If nothing happens then it is already installed04:48
amphipaloyme: this any use? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76037.html04:48
paloymeok warbo, thenks04:48
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pipHello04:48
escobar5anybody knows why i ain't getting "OK" in the item "starting hotplug subsystem" when booting? my usb devices are not getting mounted automatically}04:48
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paloymebtw, i dont have any idea what a .tgz is, hehehe is it like zip?04:49
Warboescobar5: Does it work without USB devices plugged in?04:49
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prospero2005I used vmware to run ubuntu on top of kubuntu, and a baked potato popped out of my cd drive!!04:49
amphipaloyme: somewhat - tar zxvf whatever.tgz to unpack it04:49
Warbopaloyme: It is like a zip, but stores all of the permissions and ownership things that windows doesn't have.04:49
joelitopaloyme: it's the package format for slackware, like a deb04:49
escobar5Warbo, no04:49
tritium_joelito: it's not just a slackware thing04:50
amphipaloyme: it's a gzip(1)ped tar(1) archive04:50
joelitoI think alien can convert it to deb04:50
FlannelKingyep04:50
corey7entering sudo gedit /etc/hosts into terminal gets this "sudo: unable to lookup via gethostbyname()"04:50
paloymeuser01@ERI04:~/Linux-FBDev-kernel-bin_20050726$ modprobe viafb04:50
paloymeFATAL: Module viafb not found.04:50
Warbopaloyme: Also, go into System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager. That is the best way of installing software (hell of a lot better and easier than windows)04:50
paloymeFATAL: Module viafb not found.04:50
amphijoelito: tar and gzip are nothing to do with slackware04:50
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cafuegocorey7: Did you change the hostname without also editing /etc/hosts ?04:50
Warbopaloyme: OK, so maybe it isn't installed then :)04:50
jimmybondscan somebody tell me how to upgrade ubuntu to latest release?04:50
corey7yea04:50
joelitowell have you tried installing from slackware's repos?04:50
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prospero2005jimmybonds apt-get dist-upgrade04:51
linuxgeekeryjoelito, slackware's package management system (yes, it is tgz files), are just tarred binaries with a setup script to be auto-executed on install04:51
jimmybondstried that04:51
jimmybondsim still running hoary04:51
jimmybondsi wanna upgrade to breezy04:51
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FoxHound01lol, wow...04:51
prospero2005jimmybonds it's all in the sources.list file04:51
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joelitowell, if the file has that then it can be converted to deb04:51
pipSomebody want to get some files from my computer ,so I use USB disk to translate them to him ,but after I have moved the files to his computer ,he couldnt use it for he didnot have enough purview.04:51
corey7i can view the hosts file, it is blank except for the # line04:51
prospero2005jimmybonds I'm going to help you out04:51
jimmybondsk04:51
amphiFoxHound01: 'lol wow'?04:51
Warbojoelito: Windows uses three letter file extensions (preferably) and DOS can only use that. Therefore for DOS and make Windows happier .tar.gz gets shortened to .tgz04:52
jimmybondslast time i changed my sources to breezy04:52
pipwhy ?04:52
jimmybondsand reupgraded04:52
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jimmybondsit totally broke04:52
jimmybonds:|04:52
tritium_!tell jimmybonds about enter04:52
escobar5Warbo: any ideas04:52
FoxHound01i guess i didn't realize that people didn't just upgrade. not that its bad, its just that i have the tendancy to use prerelease software often04:52
paloymeyep, it isnt installed, right now im trying out amphi's site suggestion04:52
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paloymehopefully it helps04:52
Warboescobar5: Sorry (I'm getting bogged down by replying to too many people and I can't touch type, so I'm looking at my keyboard) Sorry if I missed you04:53
prospero2005jimmybonds http://www.webloguniverse.com/sources.html04:53
amphiWarbo: get blank keycaps ;)04:53
Warboescobar5: No real ideas coming at the moment04:53
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FoxHound01I am a bit cutting edge sometimes, and so NOT upgrading would be unusual for me04:53
prospero2005jimmybonds make that your sources.list04:53
prospero2005jimmybonds then do a fetch updates04:53
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prospero2005jimmybonds then update04:54
prospero2005jimmybonds got it?04:54
Warboamphi: har har. You'd think I'd get it by now, after typing for 13 years04:54
jimmybondsyup04:54
amphiWarbo: heh - I can't touch type either04:54
escobar5Warbo: don't worry04:54
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pip Somebody wants to get some files from my computer ,so I use USB disk to translate them to him ,but after I have moved the files to his computer ,he couldnt use it for he didnot have enough purview.04:55
escobar5Any else knows what the problem is??04:55
Warboamphi: I can touch type all of my passwords (bloody asterisks. Give me security, why don't you...)04:55
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paloymeis somebody patient enough to explain to me what is an xorg.conf?04:55
TechgsmHi everybody , its my first time installing and using ubuntu , i got familiar with this distribution but the problem that i cant access the internet , i have a Thomson THG520 wich can connect through ethernet , i used recommendation in the user guide , i got to administration-Networking and i did ethO and selected dhcp and activated  , but still cant access the internet , please if some1 could help me ill be thankful ):04:55
Warbopip: Sorry, didn't get last word04:55
JinkgunsI have a fully functional linux laptop. ;)04:55
corey7i just logged off of ubuntu and this is the message i get when logging back in "could not look up internet address for .  This will prevent gnome from operating correctly.  It may be possible to correct the problem by adding to the file /etc/hosts04:55
JinkgunsYay.04:55
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amphipaloyme: it's a file in /etc/X11/ that contains the configuration of your x server04:56
JinkgunsThis laptop isn't exactly new, but it's been through iraq, a three alarm fire, and now, linux. :D04:56
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amphipaloyme: man xorg.conf will give you more info04:56
robbiehi can i have some help with a problem with SADMS04:56
pipWarbo, OK!he can't do anything with it ,for there is no power.04:56
Warbocorey7: Yes, that won't affect anything (didn't affect me) but I forgot how I got rid of it04:56
pipWarbo, I dont know why04:56
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pipWarbo, Could you help me ?04:57
amphiJinkguns: what's a 'three alarm fire'?04:57
ubuntu__jason you here?04:57
paloymeamphi: tenks amphi04:57
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_jasonubuntu_: yeah04:57
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corey7it is affecting things, i cant get into networking04:57
ltR20_jason big problems04:57
ltR20my ubuntu crashed04:57
amphipaloyme: if you have a working xorg.conf, it might be wise to make a copy of it04:57
paloymehow do i do replies in xchat?04:57
Warbopip: No power? As in electricity? Does it require an external plug?04:57
TechgsmHi everybody , its my first time installing and using ubuntu , i got familiar with this distribution but the problem that i cant access the internet , i have a Thomson THG520 modem wich can connect through ethernet , i used recommendation in the user guide , i got to administration-Networking and i did ethO and selected dhcp and activated  , but still cant access the internet , please if some1 could help me ill be thankful ):04:57
ltR20it said somthing about a read only filesystem04:57
SDcorey7: try putting 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost ubuntu into the first line of /etc/hosts04:57
ltR20I/O error04:57
ltR20so i rebooted04:57
ltR20and i can't get in grub04:57
ltR20it says grub error 2104:57
corey7please tell me how to04:58
WarboItR20: IO error usually means knackered disc.04:58
tritium_Techgsm: please don't repeat too often04:58
pipWarbo, No ,he cant do with it any more because he has not any permission to do antthing04:58
Techgsmi need help04:58
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Techgsmi need help04:58
Warbocorey7: I think it is your hostname. Did you use one during the install then change it after?04:58
Techgsm):04:58
Techgsmbadly04:58
amphiltR20: doesn't sound good - try booting of something like the sysresccd.org iso and see what's going on - smartctl is handy for disk diagnostics04:58
paloymeuhhh. how do i exit from a manpage?04:58
_jasonubotu: tell ltR20 about grub04:58
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_jasonltR20: checkout what 21 means04:59
amphipaloyme: q04:59
corey7after the install i was messing around and made my hostname nothing04:59
Hobbseepaloyme: :q04:59
paloymeyeeesh heheheh that easy huh04:59
linuxgeekery!patience04:59
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.04:59
SDwhere is the connection information stored for an smb connection through gnome?04:59
amphipaloyme: the program that displays man pages by default is less(1) - hitting 'h' in less gives you some help04:59
Warbopip: If he uses Linux then sudo will give super user permission (careful when using it). If you know basic terminal commands then you can access files from usb easily04:59
paloymeless?04:59
King-of-no-pantslinuxgeekery: hey there04:59
paloymewhat is less?04:59
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linuxgeekeryKing-of-no-pants: hi :)05:00
SDless is a pager, enables you to read plain text files05:00
mox69escobar5: im having the exact same problem05:00
mox69escobar5: on a brand new laptop05:00
King-of-no-pantslinuxgeekery: figured out my crashing problem05:00
escobar5hello, anybody knows why i ain't getting "OK" in the item "starting hotplug subsystem" when booting? my usb devices are not getting mounted automatically05:00
linuxgeekeryKing-of-no-pants: what happened?05:00
paloymewhere can i find less? sori for the questions05:00
King-of-no-pantslinuxgeekery: ndiswrapper05:00
amphipaloyme: yeah, the older program was more(1) (and did less); there is also most(1) for more features than less05:00
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pipWarbo, After I have moved the files he wanted to his ubuntu ,he couldnt do with it ,no permission.05:00
tritium_Techgsm: goofball ;)05:00
Warbopip: You will want to know: cd /place/where/USBDrive/is (will go to the drive) ls (will list what's there) cp filename /where/you/want/it (will copy file "filename" to "/where/you/want/it")05:00
amphipaloyme: man less (you get the routine ;)05:01
corey7is there any way to edit hosts other than sudo gedit /etc/hosts05:01
paloymeuhhh.. whats with the (1) ?05:01
paloymeooohhh!!! hehehe05:01
Warbopip: Use sudo "chown hisusername thefilesyouwanttoaccess"05:01
paxuse yelp to read man pages and save yourself the trouble.05:01
mustard5corey7, sudo nano /etc/hosts ?05:01
Warbopip: add a "-R" if it includes directories05:01
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SDno, everyone knows sudo vi is superior ;)05:01
amphipaloyme: the number in foo(1) means the section of the manpage, eg man 1 crontab describes the crontab program, man 5 crontab describes the format of the crontab file05:02
corey7gets the same error, sudo: unable to lookup via gethostbyname()05:02
amphipaloyme: er, section of the manual05:02
mustard5corey7, you will have to boot up in recovery mode from grub05:02
mustard5corey7, sudo won't work with a misconfigured hosts file05:02
corey7okay05:02
mustard5corey7, do you have a root password set up by chance?05:02
ltR20_JASON - Selected disk does not exist05:03
ltR20    This error is returned if the device part of a device- or full file name refers to a disk or BIOS device that is not present or not recognized by the BIOS in the system.05:03
corey7im not sure05:03
amphiltR20: does the bios see any disk?05:03
Warbocorey7: you can only use things like nano in console. (ctrl-X exits by the way)05:03
mustard5corey7, by default root is disabled, so do it via recovery mode :)05:03
ltR20amphi - Yes.05:03
amphiltR20: does it spin up?05:03
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corey7what exactly should i do05:03
mustard5corey7, you want me to point you to a guide?05:03
ltR20amphi YES05:03
corey7yes05:04
amphiltR20: that's something ;)05:04
amphiltR20: you could boot of some linux cd and see if you can mount the / partition05:04
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amphiltR20: *off05:04
mustard5corey7, read this thread all the way through http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15194105:04
paloymehmmm ok... how do i use less? i typed less in the terminal, and got nothing... also tried less xorg.conf05:04
pipWarbo, OK! I am trying..thank you05:04
_jasonpaloyme: less /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:05
amphiltR20: the sysresccd.org iso is very useful IMHO05:05
paloymeohhh ok... i guess i also need to specify the directory...05:05
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corey7thank you mustard05:05
mustard5corey7, np..good luck05:05
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amphipaloyme: if you're not in it, yeah - never does any harm to specify a full path05:05
pipWarbo, on his computer or on mine whe I use that command ?05:06
paloymeaaaa ok i got i got it05:06
escobar5well, i guess you're very bussy, i'll try some other time05:06
escobar5thanks05:06
Warbopip: On his computer, so it sets the permissions to his username on his machine05:06
paloymehahaha, i was confused, i thought less is a program like maybe adobe reader hehehe05:06
amphipaloyme: it is, sorta05:06
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paloymenow i know, less is executed when you type man xorg.conf, something like that right?05:07
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Warbopaloyme: You may be familiar with "more" from other systems. less is slightly better because you can go back up05:07
Madpilotpaloyme, man files have their own viewer05:07
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paloymemadpilot: wat other viewers?05:07
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paloymewarbo: when you said other systems, you meant other distros?05:08
amphipaloyme: man xorg.conf creates four processes here ;)05:08
amphipaloyme: other unices05:09
Warbopaloyme: I meant other computing systems, I was thinking Amiga but maybe DOS has it (I don't know)05:09
KrakensDenpaloyme, probably he means windows05:09
KrakensDenpaloyme, DOS has it05:09
amphiWarbo: yeah, dos had more05:09
WarboKrakensDen: I don't class Windows as a computer system05:09
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paloymeoh ok, got it05:09
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paloymeamphi: do you plan to tell me the four processes?05:10
paloyme:)05:10
amphiMadpilot: own viewer? man will use whatever $PAGER is set to, you can use lynx or w3m for example05:10
KrakensDenWarbo, but you count DOS?05:10
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amphipaloyme: ps aux would show them to - one has a very long command line I will not paste05:10
Kr4zy4p3Can Ubuntu be installed on an NTFS file system ?...or does it need a different one ?05:10
paloymeok05:11
WarboKrakensDen: Well... When it was Q/DOS05:11
KrakensDenKr4zy4p3, not really05:11
paloymeso in ubuntu, the default viewer for man is less05:11
Madpilotamphi, ah, OK - hadn't really investigated - but the default man viewer isn't less, AFAIK05:11
WarboKr4zy4p3: it can be installed inside a file for an emulator05:11
KrakensDenKr4zy4p3, there are linuxes for FAT3205:11
dj-fuKr4zy4p3, NTFS write support isn't too flash.05:11
amphiMadpilot: it is on linux distros that I've used05:11
paloymeif less isnt the defualt viewer of man, then what did i just saw when i typed man xorg.conf?05:12
amphipaloyme: less, I expect05:12
dj-fualthough I'm told with the 'captive' system (it loads ntfs.sys with wine for NTFS r/w support) you can have workign write access05:12
KrakensDenbut I don't think any distros ship with that05:12
Warbopaloyme: They may look similar, but how else would a command line text reader look?05:12
paloymeamphi: i figured less too since it quitted when i pressed q heheheh05:12
FlannelKingdj-fu: it's just super unstable05:12
Madpilotamphi, OK, nevermind - I'm talking out of my arse, I guess :P05:12
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KrakensDenKr4zy4p3, you're basically going to need to repartition05:13
KrakensDenKr4zy4p3, sorry05:13
dj-fuFlannelKing, what is?05:13
FlannelKingdj-fu: write support for NTFS05:13
dj-fuuh, it's not unstable, it just only allows you to write over already existing files05:13
Kr4zy4p3ah ok, damn..thanx anyways :)05:13
paloymewarbo: i dont get wat you mean05:13
paloymeheheheh05:13
dj-fu(not bigger, not new files -- etc)05:13
amphiMadpilot: if you do man whatever and ps aux, you'll probably see /usr/bin/pager which is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/pager, which by default is a symlink to less (or perhaps more ;)05:13
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WarboI think it's evil that people don't know about partitioning 'cos of Windows. Have you ever tried to install a system-heavy game on a different partition? It asks you where to install but still looks in C:\Program Files. I think it's terrible05:14
KrakensDendj-fu, not only that, but you can't change the bit length05:14
tritium_amphi: that's more or less correct ;)05:14
mox69how would i go about mounting my linux partition from a bootcd ?05:14
KrakensDendj-fu, it's fairly useless05:14
amphitritium_: heh05:14
Warbopaloyme: I meant that less does look like the man reader, but there is not much else it can look like05:14
mox69aka mount /dev/sda2 /mount, but i need soem flags05:14
corey7mustard, do i only need to put 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost name in the file05:14
escobar5mox69: look at this links, maybe they are helpful to you: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1257405:14
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paloymewarbo: hehehe yeah you're right... all text readers probably look the same05:15
mox69thx05:15
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escobar5np05:15
titanium_platypuanybody here know much about Flightgear?05:15
amphipaloyme: put yourself out of your misery by doing ls -l /etc/alternatives/pager05:15
cyphasecan the beta go out today?05:15
Warbopaloyme: And it uses the same keys to be easy for people05:15
cyphasepretty pleeeeease05:15
cyphase:)05:15
amphipaloyme: most(1) doesn't05:15
AngryElfin general, if make fails because i'm missing a library, and then i install said library....is it necessary to make clean before making again?05:15
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WarboAngrElf: Can't do any harm. Usually configure would pick that up05:16
amphiTechgsm: what is your problem?05:16
paloymeok i just did ls -l /etc/alternatives/pager, but i really dont know what it does...05:16
TechgsmHi everybody , its my first time installing and using ubuntu , i got familiar with this distribution but the problem that i cant access the internet , i have a Thomson THG520 modem wich can connect through ethernet , i used recommendation in the user guide , i got to administration-Networking and i did ethO and selected dhcp and activated  , but still cant access the internet , please if some1 could help me ill be thankful ):05:16
Techgsmthats it05:16
paloymeit just outputted -> /usr/bin/less05:16
amphipaloyme: it should show what the symlink points to05:16
paloymeoo ok...05:17
amphipaloyme: which, as you see, is less05:17
paloymeogt it05:17
paloymegot it05:17
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Dr_Willisless is more and more is less. :P05:17
Dr_Willismore or less.05:17
mzinzI just configured and compiled a theme for Kubuntu.. but now what?  I did ./configure, make, and make install05:17
Techgsmamphi so please could y do something ):05:17
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amphiTechgsm: cable modem?05:17
KrakensDenTechgsm, um. You need to do pppoe, not dhcp05:17
WarboTechgsm: Try using a static address of 192.168.0.5 and gateway 192.168.0.1, or if not then 192.168.1.5 and gateway 192.168.1.105:17
amphiKrakensDen: not necessarily05:17
KrakensDenamphi, I just googled his modem05:18
KrakensDenamphi, it's a cable modem05:18
regulatetechgsm: do an ifconfig and tell me what your ip is05:18
Techgsmits satellite modem05:18
Techgsmits satellite modem05:18
Techgsmno pppoe05:18
amphiTechgsm: have you used if from another machine, or from another OS on the same machine?05:18
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biovoreTechgsm: sat modem..  vsat?05:18
TechgsmThomson broadband difital THG520 modem05:18
Techgsmdigital05:18
paloymecrap, i just did a ctrl+alt+backspace without even asking what it does05:18
biovorewhat interface dose it take?05:19
mustard5corey7, yes, that and your specified hostname, whatever that is05:19
Madpilotpaloyme, well, now you know ;)05:19
paloymeyeah, heheheh05:19
regulateits a cable modem05:19
mustard5corey7, I'm hopeful its self explanatory from the thread instructions05:19
Techgsmplease guys help me05:19
paloymeexperience is the best teacher they say:)05:19
Techgsmi need internet05:19
amphiTechgsm: if so, you may need to reset it before it'll give you a dhcp config05:19
regulatenot satellite05:19
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bzakscan someone tell me where to look to change how my volumes are mounted on boot?05:19
Techgsmamphi tell me how please05:19
Warbopaloyme: using delete (or del) instead of backspace will reboot. Be careful05:19
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Warbobzaks: /etc/fstab in that file05:20
paloymeooo ok, what other ctrl+alt+combi should i be looking out for?05:20
bzaksthanks :)05:20
biovoreyeah.. that looks like a standard docsis 2.0 cable modem05:20
Warbopaloyme: f1, f2, f3 and stuff. NumPad + and -05:20
amphiTechgsm: power it down, wait a few seconds, power it up - I had to do that with a cable modem I used when switching machines that were connected to it05:20
paloymectrl+alt+backspace and delte are the same right?05:20
biovorepaloyme: ctrl-alt-(+/-)05:20
KrakensDenpaloyme, nope05:20
amphipaloyme: no; ctrl-alt-backspace kills X05:20
Warbopaloyme: No. backspace kills X, delete reboots05:20
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KrakensDenpaloyme, one kills X, one reboots05:21
romulocan anyone point me out something to install ubuntu from a network? like the only thing i got is a small pendrive and a networked iso05:21
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paloymeoh05:21
Warboamphi: Beat me again (can't look up from the keyboard)05:21
paloymewhat exactly is achieved by killing x?05:21
amphiWarbo: heh - with what?05:21
Techgsmamphi i do that and after i try to reconfigure the laptop , or i just power down the modem and leave the laptop on ?05:21
paloymeis X the desktop environment?05:21
biovoreromulo: I think there is a way with ubuntu to do that05:21
Madpilotpaloyme, X is the stuff under the desktop, roughly05:21
KrakensDenamphi, http://linux-usb.sourceforge.net/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html05:21
biovoreromulo: I have only done it with debian though :-P05:21
Warbopaloyme: If programs screw up then it logs you out instantly05:21
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amphiTechgsm: I used to reset the modem, and then run dhclient05:22
Warbopaloyme: (though not in Dapper)05:22
amphiKrakensDen: it's a speedtouch he's talking about?05:22
FlannelKingromulo: http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/2005/01/09/ubuntu-netinstall-without-cdrom/05:22
bzaksif I would like to change a volume so that anyone could use it, I would say "users" in the options part, right?05:22
FlannelKingthats first one google points to (ubuntu net install)05:22
romulobiovore, im using debian-amd64 but im going to dapper, unfortunatly no blank medias are avaible now05:22
amphiKrakensDen: I've only used pppoatm with those05:22
Warboamphi: lol (only just got it :))05:22
Healotsoftware suspend in stock Ubuntu kernel doesn;t really work05:22
paloymehmmm im kinda confused here... X is like logging in and out?05:22
paloymei mean killing X is like logging in and out only05:23
KrakensDenamphi, according to an ubuntu forum post, they may be equivalent05:23
Techgsmamphi thanks05:23
Dr_Willispaloyme,  a hard core way of logging out. :P05:23
KrakensDenamphi, not much of a source though05:23
Techgsmill try before i go to sleep05:23
FlannelKingpaloyme: right.  linux is running underneath of X, X is just a frontend05:23
KrakensDenTechgsm, did it work?05:23
Warbopaloyme: If you restart X then you get back into the graphical log in screen. All of your programs are killed05:23
amphiKrakensDen: he's talking about a cable modem connected via ethernet05:23
Techgsm:)05:23
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paloymeohhh ok... X is diffrent from gnome right?05:23
TechgsmKrakensDen i cant try it now , ill disconnect my pc05:23
bzaksif I would like to change a volume so that anyone could use it, I would say "users" in the options part, right?05:23
Dr_Willispaloyme,  linux is all about 'layers and legos' :P layers of software on top of each other.05:23
romulohmm ubuntu netinstall05:23
romulointeresting05:23
amphipaloyme: gnome runs on top of X05:23
faroushi everyone how is the best support room :)05:23
TechgsmKrakensDen before i go to sleep ill try his solution05:23
Dr_Willispaloyme,  building up entire interfaces.05:24
amphifarous: er, channel05:24
bzaksthis is the best support room because everyone uses ubuntu and has probably seen your problem before05:24
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paloymeoh ok... got it05:24
Warbopaloyme: X is the graphics server. You can run what you want on top (GNOME, KDE, XFCE, whatever)05:24
bzaksif I would like to change a volume so that anyone could use it, I would say "users" in the options part, right?05:24
Dr_WillisBut are we all Linux snobs?05:24
amphipaloyme: or you can not run X at all ;)05:24
Techgsmamphi can i ask y a last question ??05:24
paloymewarbo: there you go, its the graphics server, thats what i was looking for hehehe05:24
Techgsm:)05:24
amphiDr_Willis: I should hope so05:24
Dr_Willis:)05:24
Techgsmamphi can i ask y a last question ??05:24
paloymeneway, who was it that gave me the link to the s3 unichrome forum?05:25
Dr_WillisTime to make a Disrto called SnobLinux05:25
farousamphi: you look like one for sure ;)05:25
amphipaloyme: X conveniently reverse the common meaning of 'client' and 'server' (well, not really)05:25
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MadpilotDr_Willis, Snobuntu :P05:25
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amphiTechgsm: if you must ;)05:25
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Techgsmlol05:25
bzaksis SnobLinux going to be insanely hard to use if you're a M$ user?05:25
Dr_WillisNext Ubuntu Release - Snoby err... Snoby Skunk!05:25
Dr_WillisLO05:25
romuloFlannelKing, just founda  mini.iso for dapper :D05:25
jadaz87Dr_Willis Edgy Eft05:25
Techgsmamphi n=amphi@unaffiliated/amphi , how y did that ? its really a funny tip lol05:25
romuloFlannelKing, fits on my pendrive05:26
romulo:D05:26
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romuloso i install it and try to get the rest from network05:26
Warbobzaks: SnobLinux has 2 options. If you are alone it is command line. if someone is next to you XGL turns on and the speakers shout "LOOK AT ME!"05:26
Dr_Willisjadaz87,  i think we need to apply a hammer to someone's brain for these names. :P05:26
amphijadaz87: so now everyone's going to have to explain about teenage newts *sigh*05:26
FlannelKingromulo: good stuff.  That's all you need, you can get the rest from the internet once you've got stuff on.05:26
romuloFlannelKing, yeah, ill pray sk98lin works out the box on it05:26
romulo=P05:26
jadaz87amphi Dr_Willis lmao05:26
romuloit didnt worked on my debian.05:26
paloymehmmmm let me get this straight... if X is the graphics server, if X is killed, can i still say that linux is still running? can i do a terminal without x?05:26
MadpilotWarbo, I like it! (but further chat about SnobLinux should probably go to #ubuntu-offtopic...)05:26
FlannelKingpaloyme: right.  ctrl-alt-f105:26
amphiTechgsm: it's a fashionable freenode cloak - you can ask one of the freenode people for one05:27
Dr_WillisIts so hard to come up with a Ubuntu mascot - when they keep changeing animal names.05:27
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Dr_Willis:P05:27
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Madpilotpaloyme, of course. Server installs of Linux don't even have X installed at all05:27
Warbopaloyme: Press ctrl-alt-fi (f7 to get back) You can run Linux with no X05:27
paloymeok... what does ctrlalt f1 do?05:27
Techgsmlol05:27
Dr_Willistry it an dsee. :P05:27
FlannelKingpaloyme: itll bring you to a text login (graphical is f7)05:27
Techgsmthats great05:27
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paloymecan i do it now without terminating my xchat here?05:27
FlannelKingpaloyme: you're running six of them (f1-f6)05:27
FlannelKingyes,05:27
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FlannelKingits a multithreaded OS05:27
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FlannelKingthey're all ompletely independant.  While youre doing something on f1, you can switch to f2 and do somethign else (yes, you can log in multiple times)05:28
mikeo1where do i set the default applications?05:28
mikeo1for files and links05:28
amphiFlannelKing: 'enterprise ready' an' all ;)05:28
biovore(a true multuser OS) as opposed to MS.. witch isn't close to one..05:28
mikeo1somehow urls broke themselves05:28
FlannelKingamphi: erm?  more like... 1990s ready ;)05:28
Warbomikeo1: For files use right-click properties, OpenWith.05:28
mikeo1what about links?05:28
Warbomikeo1: Oh, in FF05:28
amphiFlannelKing: linux? it's like the 1970s ;)05:28
xerophytewhich is good imap server dovecot, cyrus , or courier05:28
mikeo1links no longer work in xchat05:28
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mikeo1not in firefox05:29
mikeo1in xchat05:29
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mikeo1links are broken05:29
biovoreamphi: yes the 1970 where shit worked and the only bugs where living05:29
mikeo1and want to make movies open with mplayer by default05:29
Warbomikeo1: Then it should ask you, if you already set "remember" then your references will sort that out (in FireFox, I'm talking baout)05:29
Warbomikeo1: Oh, sorry (looking at my keyboard again)05:29
farousmikeo1: you can open pref. set default application05:29
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amphibiovore: there's still plan 9...05:29
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biovoreyup.. another intressing invention by bell05:30
biovorekinda like att unix05:30
WarboXChat killed my X when I tried it for the first time. Then I tried again, same problem. I gave up and used GAIM.05:30
intelikeyplan 9   hehhe05:30
romulogoing to boot and test, brb05:30
mikeo1that doesnt have options for opening movies05:30
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mikeo1want to make all movies open with mplayer by default05:30
mikeo1totem sort of sucks05:30
farousmikeo1: multimedia, then set default medial player05:30
mikeo1where?05:31
mox69is there an easy way to boot into single user mode from breezy ?05:31
farousmikeo1: under preferences05:31
arrickAnyone: Is tehre anyone in here familiar with html coding?05:31
KrakensDenmox69, I think it's a grub option05:31
intelikeymox69 add  1  to the kernel string05:31
amphibiovore: yeah; it runs nicely under qemu, FWIW05:31
Warbomox69: There should be a "recovery mode" on GRUB. If not add the word "single" to the "kernel" line05:31
FlannelKingheh, anyone know if paloyme ever got back to X? ;)05:31
Madpilotarrick, yes, but use #html or #web for HTML issues, please05:31
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mikeo1dont see it05:31
s0kud0stupid n00b question.. what is the command to configure X? I thought it was xf86config or something but that doesn't seem to be on my system..05:31
twevanyone know a good ram diagnostics tool05:31
amphiFlannelKing: heh05:31
King-of-no-pantsmemtest86+05:32
farousmikeo1: give me a min to loginto gnome05:32
Warbos0kud0: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:32
mikeo1ok cool thanks05:32
s0kud0ahh05:32
s0kud0cool thanks!05:32
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Warbos0kud0: Ubuntu uses Xorg, not XFree8605:32
arrickMadpilot, I am, but I was goign to ask someone to join #arrick for a second that knew it05:32
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intelikeyWarbo it can use XFree05:32
Madpilotarrick, you're better off in #html or #web05:32
amphiarrick: you should have just asked ;)05:33
SDwhy do mount points from gnome not show up in console "mount" command?05:33
Falstiustwev: memtest is included in the ubuntu cd .. just stick it in your computer, boot to it and type "memtest" at the boot prompt.05:33
Warbointelikey: But it doesn't COME with it05:33
Dr_WillisSD,  they may not be mounted yet.05:33
FlannelKingarrick: or #css.  We're html nazis in there too05:33
Dr_Willisright click on them in gnome and see if the mount opton is there05:33
CNAPWOW no wonder this graphics package seems alot more receptive than XFree86 (which sucks!)05:33
s0kud0warbo: thanks man..05:33
intelikeyWarbo but it's in the repos05:33
Warbointelikey: Wow. Didn't know that05:33
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amphiCNAP: receptive??05:33
twevFlastius: ok i'll give it a go05:33
SDDr_Willis: they definitely are, because I have been reading/writing files in them05:33
KrakensDenCNAP, yup, they forked05:33
arrickMadpilot, been in html channel for about 20 minute, and cant get a straight answer05:33
KrakensDenCNAP, there has been alot more productive work since then05:34
Dr_WillisSD,  odd.. i recall someone else the other day with a similer quirk05:34
amphiarrick: heh05:34
mikeo1totem sucks05:34
Madpilotarrick, follow the URLs the bot there just posted!05:34
mikeo1cant even play h264 hd movie trailers05:34
amphimikeo1: so apt-get remove it already05:34
farousmikeo1: ah my mistake i thought it was an option there. I have not been using gnome for quite a while05:34
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intelikeyxfree86-common - X Window System (X.Org) infrastructure metapackage05:34
CNAPamphi: yeah receptive. xfree86 seemed like it was slow when reacting to mouse movement and clicks. overall it seemed alot slower than what i'm running on now (Xorg i just learned)05:34
mikeo1well how do i set mplayer as the default for movies?05:34
amphiCNAP: oh, 'responsive' ;)05:35
marshall_lawanyone know why ubuntu would freeze up on the gnome splash screen after a clean install? i'm guessing it has something to do with a need for more recent NVidia drivers (I have a 7800GT)05:35
Warbointelikey: Erm, from it's description it sounds like an obsolete upgrade only package05:35
FlannelKingarrick: ask now in html ;)05:35
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CNAPamphi: ok, responive... :-p05:35
WarboCNAP: Might depend on the niceness of X05:35
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KrakensDenCNAP, methinks you need a spell checker :P05:35
intelikeyWarbo i didn't paste all the xfree hits that apt-cache gave me.05:35
SDunless I am being an idiot, a windows share should show up under /bin/mount as smbfs... right?05:35
faroushmm you can right click on a media file in nautilus and select openwith. then choose mplayer. this though seem to crach nautilus on my pc and do not if you will be hit with this bug or not05:35
marshall_lawi'm working with the install image from the latest dapper beta (can't remember the name..)05:36
corey7is my /etc/hostname file supposed to be empty?05:36
amphiSD: I'd have thought so05:36
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paloymeok that was stupid... i did ctrl+alt+f1 without even asking how to get back....05:36
Charlyhola05:36
mikeo1figured it out05:36
paloymeso i had to restart the whole thing05:36
mikeo1never mind05:36
amphipaloyme: heh - you were told about alt-f705:36
Warbofarous: I found it crashed Nautilus's Open With when I had LOADS of useless [ackages installed and the list was long05:36
Dr_Willispaloyme,  they TOLD you how to get back05:36
mikeo1just had to go to properties :D05:36
rukuarticpaloyme: its f705:36
paloymenope05:36
amphipaloyme: yup05:37
Warbopaloyme: I told you and so did others05:37
rukuarticpaloyme: ctrl+alt+f7 that is... happened to me to othe first time XD05:37
paloymeso how do i get back when i press ctrl alt f2 f3 f4....05:37
farousWarbo: i filed it as a bug and turned out to be known bug. Do not what cause it though05:37
paloymewat is ctrl f7?05:37
Warbopaloyme: The same05:37
Dr_Willisalt-ctrl-f7 is the normal way to get back.. it could be other #'s at times05:37
amphipaloyme: or just alt-left/right until X appears05:37
rukuarticpaloyme: ctrl+alt+f705:37
Dr_Willisyou used alt-ctrl-F1,, and you are asking what alt-ctrl-F7 is? :P05:37
rukuarticamphi: Doesn't work for me like that05:37
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mox69ok even booting into recovery mode the computer freezes at *Starting hotplug system05:37
paloymewhen i press ctrl alt f1, will my xchat here terminate?05:37
amphipaloyme: or chvt 7 ;)05:37
FlannelKingno05:37
Dr_Willispaloyme,  No.05:37
Warbofarous: Me neither, but my system needed a sorting out (I had turned kubuntu into ubuntu and had loads of redundant stuff)05:38
amphirukuartic: alt-left/right doesn't work for you?05:38
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Dr_WillisLayers and Legos. :P  and Linux Fundamentals.05:38
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paloymewhat does ctrl alt f1-f7 do actually?05:38
marshall_lawanyone have an idea why dapper beta would freeze up on gnome splash screen?05:38
paloymeexactly i mean05:38
Dr_Willisgoes to the different 'consoles'05:38
marshall_law(after a fresh install)05:38
paloymewhat does ctrl alt f1-f7 do exactly05:38
Dr_Willisone console is running X.05:38
FlannelKingswitches between your ttys05:38
KrakensDenpaloyme, have you tried it yet?05:38
Warbopaloyme: Takes you to different "consoles" so you can do more than one thing at once. f7 and above are reserved for graphics05:39
mox69the last thing i see before it freezes is "snd-hda-intel: cant be loaded, missing kernel or user mode driver snd-hda-intel05:39
harisundDoes anybody have an experience of their mouse cursor turning black after a screensaver starts?05:39
mox69anyone know a workaround for that?05:39
intelikeylayleo & lego ?05:39
Dr_WillisYou could even have a different X session on alt-ctrl-F8, or some logging info on alt-ctrl-F905:39
paloymei did try ctrl+alt f2 f3 f4, all it did was take me to a terminal and couldnt get back to the desktop05:39
Warbopaloyme: Try going on system tools > new login. That will open up f8 for you to play with05:39
Dr_Willispaloyme,  ya dident try F7 then..05:39
KrakensDenpaloyme, f7 is X by convention05:39
dabaRmox69: boot into live mode, and blacklist that module.05:39
mox69i would, but it freezes when booting into live mode :)05:40
intelikeyDr_Willis or 24 login consoles.....05:40
mox69i guess i could try a differnt live cd05:40
amphipaloyme: X starts on the first unused TTY05:40
corey7can someone tell me what their /etc/hostname file looks like05:40
dabaRmox69: go into expert mode for live CD, and disable that driver, if the same driver locks it up in live CD.05:40
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Charlyhi05:41
amphicorey7: it just contains the box's hostname05:41
mox69ok05:41
dabaRmox69: That could be a driver for the hda, which would be kinda crappy for you.05:41
corey7mine is blank, should i add a hostname05:41
WarboI know that boot up messages are on f8, but sometimes New Login start on f8 (mostly) but sometimes f9. Don't know why05:41
paloymenope... didnt try f7, i was panicking on how to get back hehehe, i thought pressing anything more than f6 will give me a headache05:41
Charlysomeone of peru05:41
amphi!es05:41
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:41
intelikeyas for which tty x is running on, it loads in the first free tty.   the command that puts mingetty (the login prompt) on a tty is in /etc/inittab .05:41
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paloymehehehe05:42
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paloymei just pressed alt+f4... stupid...05:42
amphiwb, paloyme05:42
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paloymehehehe05:42
Warbopaloyme: Now try ctrl-alt-+ (NumPad)05:42
Dr_WillisThis is when it pays to read a few linux beginner guides05:42
Dr_Willis:P05:42
amphipaloyme: alt-f4 takes me to workspace 405:42
intelikeyyou could have any number of login tty's  from 0 to 12805:42
paloymeworkspace and dekstop environments are different?05:42
mikeo1is there an xterm for ubuntu?05:43
amphiintelikey: only 128? bah05:43
mikeo1have something that wont close05:43
Warbointelikey: Why suchj a small limit :)05:43
mikeo1and dont know what it is05:43
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amphiintelikey: thank gnu for screen ;)05:43
paloymehmmm ctrl alt + is zoom?05:43
Warboamphi: Again with the beating me05:43
intelikeyamphi you would have to alter dev also to have more than 12805:43
mikeo1or how do i kill a window05:43
mikeo1that i dont know what it is05:43
amphimikeo1: xkill05:43
Dr_Willismikeo1,  many xterms..   could use 'xkill'05:43
intelikeyamphi i dislike 'screen'05:44
Hexidigitalhello Ubuntu users05:44
mikeo1cool05:44
mikeo1worked good05:44
amphiintelikey: heresy! ;) why?05:44
Warbomikeo1: I have deskbar-applet on my panel. Makes single useful command easier to access05:44
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harisundDoes anybody have an experience of their mouse cursor turning black after a screensaver starts?05:44
mikeo1hmmm think it crashed xgl05:44
paloymeis workspace different from desktop? like the one located on the lower right?05:44
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mikeo1it killed it but there is still a black window05:45
mikeo1loil05:45
amphipaloyme: no, same thing05:45
mikeo1time to restartx05:45
Warbopaloyme: Depends on who you ask and what window manager they use05:45
Hexidigitalpaloyme, workspaces are virtual desktops (usually)05:45
amphiharisund: perhaps it reverts to the standard X pointer, which is black05:45
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harisundaha ! amphi I have a strong feeling you are right. Any idea how I can change that?05:46
paloymewell there are only 4 desktops here, somebody said there were 6 workstations...?05:46
Warbopaloyme: For instance, I would say I have 1 desktop, as I can put files and launchers in one place, but I have multiple workspaces05:46
tritium_paloyme: not workstations, virtual consoles05:46
root_how do i give ppl the "link" so to speak to an irc channel?05:46
amphipaloyme: you can make as many 'desktops' as you like05:46
Warbopaloyme: f1,f2,f3,f4,f5,f6 That's six05:46
paloymeuhhh i mean workspaces hahah sori, wrong term05:46
amphipaloyme: both are fine05:46
Dr_Willisroot_,  Huh? like irc://irc.freenode.net#ubuntu05:46
Hexidigitalroot_, do they have an IRC program?05:46
amphipaloyme: I prefer 'workspace', my panel is not a desk05:47
Warbopaloyme: Text based are referred to as "consoles" (you have 4 workspaces and 6 consoles)05:47
Warbopaloyme: (by default)05:47
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root_thank you05:47
harisundamphi any idea how I can change that?05:47
paloymeso f7 is the first workspace, like this one here?05:47
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amphiharisund: nope05:48
paloyme4 workspaces, which are f7 f8 f9 and f10?05:48
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harisundBut you are right, come to think of it, it does change to default x cursor05:48
FlannelKingpaloyme: no, they're all inside f705:48
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paloymeoh ok...05:48
amphipaloyme: console 7 is where your X server lives; gnome runs on top of X, and provides you with 4 desktops05:48
FlannelKingpaloyme: those things on the bottom right.05:48
FlannelKingpaloyme: four boxes05:48
paloymegot it05:48
FlannelKingyou have four "desktops"05:48
Warbopaloyme: No. f7 is your first X session. You can run loads of stuff inside X at once. Basically, if your monitor doesn't flicker then you aren't changing console (in my experience)05:48
amphipaloyme: of course, there are no desktops, just lists of windows to be displayed ;)05:48
intelikeyQUESTION   howto remove getty05:49
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marshall_lawanyone know why ubuntu would freeze up on the gnome splash screen after a clean install? i'm guessing it has something to do with a need for more recent NVidia drivers (I have a 7800GT)05:49
harisundintelikey: Answer, edit out the getty in /etc/inittab05:49
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Warbopaloyme: Whatever you do don't get Enlightenment (they add another layer on top of all this!)05:49
marshall_lawi'm working with the install image from the latest dapper flight (can't remember the name..)05:49
FlannelKingmarshall_law: try clicking the splash screen05:49
paloymeand f8 is another session of X with another set of 4 desktops05:49
rukuarticWhat does getty do?05:49
amphipaloyme: it could be05:49
harisundDoes anybody use gkrellm? Or any equivalent of that perhaps?05:49
FlannelKingor is it entirel frozen? (I've found sometimes the splash screen doesn't disappear on its own)05:49
marshall_lawi've tried ... tried clicking and moving the mouse around unfortunately already :(05:49
rukuarticharisund: I do05:49
paloymeuh.. whats enlightenment? literally?05:49
Dr_Willispaloyme,  it could be a different window manager/desktop on another machine as well...05:49
harisundrukuartic: How's it?05:50
marshall_lawwell it's odd.. like the screen is half drawn and half not.. sort of garbeled05:50
Warboharisund: I use a few gdesklets to monitor my system05:50
rukuarticharisund: It works well :P Fairly customizable.05:50
marshall_lawi thought it might be a driver issue05:50
FlannelKingpaloyme: it's another window manager (like gnome, KDE, etc)05:50
amphipaloyme: in a console, you could do startx -- :1 and get another X server on console 805:50
marshall_lawwasn't sure though05:50
intelikeyharisund no.  there is already no login prompt on this box,  but what package provides /sbin/getty  ?05:50
harisundrukuartic: thanks .. have you intsalled some of the plugins?05:50
Dr_Willispaloyme,  theres dozens of window managers/desktop enviroments out you could use instead of gnome.05:50
rukuarticharisund: Using the WIFI one.05:50
amphiintelikey: dpkg -S /sbin/getty05:50
harisundrukuartic: Ah must come in handy05:50
Dr_Willispaloyme,  check http://xwinman.org/  - for info on them05:51
paloymeamphi so i cud do this... ctrl+alt+f1, log in, type startx and get a new x server at f8?05:51
rukuarticharisund: Yep. I run a small server, and I monitor CPU usage/memory with it05:51
harisundintelikey: util-linux is the package.05:51
amphipaloyme: yes; but you need to type 'startx -- :1'05:51
paloymestartx -- :105:51
Warbopaloyme: No need. Use the New Login from System Tools (is it there by default or have I configured my system too much?)05:51
amphipaloyme: the first server is :005:51
harisundrukuartic: you run a small server, and on that machine you run gkrellm, is that what you are saying?05:51
paloymeoh ok05:51
rukuarticharisund: There's too parts. The daemon and the monitor. The daemon runs always in the BG, logs data. The monitor can be turned on whenever. But its cool because I could be on another linux box, and monitor it with the monitoring program05:52
marshall_lawFlannelKing: basically i put my username/password into GDM, then gnome starts with it's splash screen but it immediately freezes except for mouse movement, and the splash screen itself is all garbled looking05:52
paloymewhat is the "--" for?05:52
harisundAh, X forward?05:52
FlannelKingmarshall_law: you using xdmcp by any chance?05:52
Dr_WillisBash Fundamentals.  anything after a --  is passed on unparsed.05:52
amphipaloyme: you can run as many X servers as your machine can stand (up to 128 or 256 perhaps, I've never run more than two)05:52
marshall_lawFlannelKing: not that i know of, this is just a fresh install05:52
rukuarticharisund: The server runs the gkrellm daemon, so I can connect mydns.com:XXXX (can't remember the port)05:52
harisundok .. that's sweet.. totally (rukuartic)05:52
rukuarticharisund: You better believe it rofl05:52
Dr_WillisI was thinking GDM had a feature to spawn a new one as well. or was that in the gnome menus?05:52
amphipaloyme: it means no more arguments for startx05:53
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rukuarticharisund: Should be in repos05:53
paloymeok05:53
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harisundOk does anyone know how to change the mouse cursor back to Gnome's default, when it has changed to the X default (the black one) ?05:53
bert_Question for the 1337.05:53
paloymelets see hmmm05:53
WarboDr_Willis: It's in the GNOME menu, along with a nested one if you have Xnest05:53
bert_How would I go about installing a .run File, from Terminal?05:53
My*waves* I'm Very new to Linux.... and have a few questions...05:53
Warboharisund: Maybe gcursor package? (seems a bit overkill though)05:53
intelikeyharisund yes i was just reading   dpkg -L util-linux | grep bin      and it looks like i might want to cp /sbin/hwclock  before i remove  it....  i actually use that command.05:53
marshall_lawFlannelKing: could it be a problem with an outdated nvidia driver?05:53
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FlannelKingmarshall_law: um, sure ;) can't hurt to try05:54
Madpilotharisund, try System->Preferences->Mouse?05:54
Warbomy: Fire away05:54
marshall_lawehh heh ;)05:54
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paloymecool!!!05:54
paloymei have f8 up and running:)05:54
totowho05:54
MyI have no sound.... was not autodetected how do I correct that?05:54
amphipaloyme: you got your second X server up?05:54
harisundMAdpilot that worked, but can you tell me the command for starting the mouse preferences?05:54
paloymebut the icons for trashbin and minimize all windows are in X05:54
bert_How would I go about installing a .RUN file from Terminal in Ubunutu...?05:55
paloymeamphi: yes:)05:55
amphipaloyme: I have no idea what gnome does if you run multiple sessions as the same user05:55
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paloymeoh...05:55
harisundMadpilot: it's gnome-mouse-properties. Thanks for that help a lot.05:55
paloymeheheheh05:55
Hexidigitalanyone know how to get the keyboard shortcuts back to default?? i'd rather have that F7 console thing than F7 changing the current window to my 3rd workspace05:55
Warbopaloyme: You can use a simple Linux box as a mainframe for a whole load of graphical stuff (you know you can run programs on other computers and send the output window to yours, etc.) It's a VERY powerful system05:55
bert_Hmm... Anyone familiar with that, or not?05:56
totowhere is it05:56
totowho are you?05:56
WarboMy: In the Device Manager (System>Admin) is it there?05:56
harisundhow do I add more mouse pointer themes ot ubuntu?05:56
HedgeMageHexidigital: go under system, user prefs, keyboard shortcuts05:56
HedgeMageHexidigital: that drove me nuts too!05:56
HedgeMage:)05:56
intelikeyhmmm looks like   removing util-linux will try to take every thing with it.....    maybe i'll just rm some of the files it provides.05:56
paloymewarbo: i see... so how do i terminate session 8? or f8... what is the proper term for it anyway? second x server?05:56
HexidigitalHedgeMage, tyvm  :)05:56
harisundintelikey what is is that you are trying to do05:56
amphipaloyme: alt-ctrl-backspace05:57
HedgeMageHexidigital: np05:57
intelikeyharisund just get rid of some thing i dont use.05:57
Warbopaloyme: If you are logged into it then normal log out will kill it05:57
bert_amphi: can you help me?05:57
paloymeamphi: it will only terminate the 2nd x server right? and not this server05:57
intelikeylike getty05:57
harisundintelikey: which is?05:57
SDok smbmount is simply not working, ive followed instructions from the net to the letter. Can anyone suggest a way to get around it?05:57
amphibert_: no, I've never seen a .run file05:57
HexidigitalHedgeMage, there's no reset to default option05:57
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Warbopaloyme: Yes, that's right05:57
bert_amphi: ok, Thanks anyway..05:57
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bert_Anybody else able to help me??05:57
naliothHedgeMage: as i live and breathe! howdy! :)05:58
amphibert_: sh ./foo.run perhaps?05:58
harisundTo remove the gettys (6 of which come by default) you can comment out the corresponding lines in /etc/inittab. NExt time you reboot, you won't find those getty's. (intelikey)05:58
HedgeMagehi nalioth :)05:58
rukuarticharisund: What exactily does getty do?05:58
totoqqqq05:58
HedgeMagenalioth: long time no see :P05:58
biovoregetty is a tty05:58
totosdsdsdssds05:58
amphirukuartic: man getty ;)05:58
paloymeok, i shutted down the second X server and it gave me a terminal, how do i know which terminal im in?05:58
harisundrukuartic: A getty is (I think) a log in terminal.05:58
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paloymei mean, which workspace im in05:58
FlannelKingpaloyme: no, which terminal ;)05:59
emihai05:59
rukuarticbert_: You might have to change it to executable +x05:59
biovoregetty give you that text base login thing05:59
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paloymeflannelking ok terminal hehehe05:59
Warbopaloyme: If you are in a text console the tty1 to tty6 will tell you05:59
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intelikeyharisund no no no.   my inittab doesn't use any getty any more.   i told you that.   so if i don't use the file, lets rm the file.05:59
MyWarbo: It does show my onboard sound chip Nvidia AC97 but not my Phillips PSC72405:59
amphipaloyme: type 'tty'05:59
bert_amphi: Actually that worked, Thanks a ton!..05:59
paloymeamphi: tenks for that:)05:59
amphibert_: heheh05:59
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emioooooooiiii05:59
bert_Oh no!...06:00
WarboMy: Is it under it's own little tree of things? (I've found that stuff not working is under generic PCI trees, but working ones have their own)06:00
bert_/home/bert/.setup11021: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory06:00
bert_./setup.sh: line 143: 11045 Segmentation fault      "$setup" "$@" 2>>$NULL06:00
bert_The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.106:00
harisundintelikey: inittab doesn't use getty any more? How come? What did you do? Are you sure? Just scroll down your inittab file and you are definitely going to find lines describing the gettys...06:00
emido u know indonesia06:00
bert_:(06:00
paloymehmmm ok all this linux stuff is making me giddy... but i still havent solved my video driver card problem, heheheh06:00
harisundintelikey; And I wouldn't suggesting reomving inittab it is a very very *important* file.06:00
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ExcaliBerhey does anyone know how to install dapper with out cd?06:00
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bert_amphi: do you know of a Debian based Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory..(Would be easier to isntall than this .run file)06:00
Warbopaloyme: Are you using that card now?06:00
emigrumble06:00
CNAPooo ooo i got this one06:01
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intelikeyharisund i could almost paste my whole inittab without flooding.  it's like 6 lines long now.06:01
amphibert_: no06:01
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bert_amphi: hmm ok.06:01
emiyeyee06:01
CNAPExcaliBer: you need to use source-o-matic to update your sources.list file06:01
ExcaliBerdoes anyone here have dapper?06:01
bert_Anybody else know of a Debian based Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory file?06:01
harisundintelikey: that's surprising .hmm.. then I really wouldn't know what starts your gettys..06:01
harisundExcaliber: I do.06:01
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paloymeyep, this is the card im using06:01
ExcaliBerwhere do i get it?06:01
Warbobert_: could try looking on apt-get.org (very debiany, less ubuntuy)06:01
harisundBut you are better off at #ubuntu+106:01
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paloymeits built in to the motherboard06:01
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ExcaliBerthe source o matic?06:01
ExcaliBerwhere i get that?06:01
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MyWarbo: forgive I'm a longterm windows user... can I send you a screenshot of it?06:01
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intelikeyharisund nothing does.06:01
paloymewarbo: yeah this is the card im using right now, its built in to the motherboard06:01
mikeo1is there a way to do live previews of pictures on mouseover with nautilus06:01
tonyyarusso!source-o-matic06:01
bert_Warbo: Ok, I will try that, Thank you.. This is my first day on Linux, so thanks for your patience.. :)06:01
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:01
newbuntiewhat's the opposite of cat? I need to split a file into 2 parts06:01
harisundExcaliber: I just substituted breezy with dapper in my sources.list file and did a dist-upgrade. And now I am running dapper.06:02
Warbopaloyme: Then why do you need this other driver? Is it for blinding 3D stuff?06:02
rukuarticbert_: Great, good for you06:02
WarboMy: Will have a go...06:02
Hexidigitalnewbuntie, dog?06:02
amphinewbuntie: tac06:02
ExcaliBerhow?06:02
mikeo1or is there a file manager that can do live previews of images on mouseover?06:02
ExcaliBercan you show me please?06:02
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paloymenope, just for better resolution, im currently at 1024x76806:02
CNAPEcaliber: go here, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:02
tonyyarussoExcaliBer: Did you catch that flying by?06:02
ExcaliBerbut i want it kde mode06:02
harisundExcaliber: Are you sure you want to do that?06:02
amphinewbuntie: but you probably want split06:02
ExcaliBerkde?06:02
paloyme1024 is kinda big for me...06:02
ExcaliBeri like kde or is gnome better?06:02
onthostis dapper out for PPC too?06:02
FlannelKingonthost: beta is out.06:03
Dr_WillisExcaliBer,  i perfer KDE.06:03
Hexidigitalamphi, i thought your first answer was serious :)06:03
joshrdoes anyone know if i can easily install freevo on ubuntu06:03
ExcaliBerok06:03
joshri am new to ubuntu06:03
tonyyarussoExcaliBer: Try them both yourself or check out screenshots and decide.  It's a personal choice.06:03
amphiHexidigital: it is - man tac06:03
ExcaliBerso how do i install it?06:03
CNAPExcaliber, select everything for dapper. Copy and paste into your sources.list file06:03
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MyWarbo: do you see it? or should I send another way?06:03
Dr_WillisExcaliBer,  i mix and match the 2.06:03
ExcaliBerwhere and how?06:03
Hexidigitalamphi, ah... what does split do then?06:03
Dr_Willis!kubuntu06:03
ubotuwell, kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/06:03
amphiHexidigital: it just doesn't do what he wanted06:03
Hexidigitalamphi, i see06:03
Dr_WillisExcaliBer,  you install Kubuntu-dekstop see the urls06:03
tonyyarussoAnyone else that's going to jump on a DE discussion, let's take it in #ubuntu-offtopic so we don't flood :)06:03
bert_Warbo: Do you mean, http://www.apt-get.org ?.. If so, It did not work...?06:03
intelikeyhehhe harisund if you want to see my inittab...  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d12575 ....  but don't try that at home....  :)06:03
amphiHexidigital: man split ;)06:03
pbhello, i have used a guide to manually instal firefox 1.5 in my breezy installation..so i think the old version still exists, but now synaptec is asking me to upgrade to firefox 1.0.8...shall i proceed?06:03
ExcaliBeri already installed kde06:03
onthostFlannelKing: oh beta....ill wait for stable, im a pussy haha06:03
paloymewhich directory does all wget downloads go to?06:03
ExcaliBeri want dapper06:03
mikeo1anyone?06:03
Hexidigital:) amphi, just man split -ted06:04
ExcaliBerjust tell me a easy way please06:04
mikeo1decent file manager that can do live previews of images on mouseover?06:04
CNAPExcaliber, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-linux06:04
Dr_Willis!dapper06:04
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)06:04
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jetscreamerpaloyme: the one you're in uless you tel it different06:04
ExcaliBeri already have ubuntu06:04
jetscreamerunless06:04
ExcaliBerim using it right now06:04
CNAPExcaliber, I'm sorry it was "sudo apt-get upgrade ubuntu-linux"06:04
ExcaliBeri have both06:04
amphipaloyme: wherever you told it to put them06:04
FlannelKingExcaliBer: what are you trying to do?06:04
joshrDoes anybody know if i can install freevo from repositories or do i have to download and compile it06:04
ExcaliBerget dapper06:04
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FlannelKingjoshr: it's not in the repos, nope.06:05
ExcaliBersudo apt-get upgrade ubuntu-linux06:05
paloymei just pasted this wget ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/kudos/hoary/via_drv.o.bz2 at the terminal06:05
joshrFlannelKing is there an easy way to install it?06:05
ExcaliBer0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.06:05
FlannelKingExcaliBer: just go to your sources list, and change "breezy" to "dapper" everywhere.06:05
paloymeso it just downloaded, but dont know where it went06:05
Dr_WillisI advise doing a clean dapper install.06:05
intelikeyjoshr apt-cache search   knows.06:05
bert_Anybody know of a place to find a Debian based Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory??.....06:05
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paloymewhat directory in downloaded to06:05
CNAPExcaliber: have you updated your sources.list ?06:05
FlannelKing!uprade06:05
amphipaloyme: ls should show it06:05
ubotuFlannelKing: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:05
ExcaliBerwhere is sources.list?06:05
tonyyarussoCNAP: There is not such package as ubuntu-linux.06:05
Hobbsee!+repos06:05
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource06:05
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tritium_ExcaliBer: /etc/apt06:05
CNAPtonyarusso: yeah i just noticed06:05
paloymels and dir are the same right?06:05
amphipaloyme: whatever directory you were in when you ran wget06:05
ExcaliBertype that in terminal?06:05
Dr_WillisExcaliBer,  you may want to do some more learning of the fundamentals of linux and ubuntu . befor messing with dapper.06:05
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joshrI just want a media center ubuntu pc, any recommendations06:06
FlannelKingExcaliBer: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list06:06
tritium_no, ExcaliBer, you asked where it was06:06
amphijoshr: mplayer06:06
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CNAPExcaliber: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list06:06
beowuffjoshr: I like totem-xine.06:06
ExcaliBerok im in sourced.list'06:06
joshris totem-xine in repositories?06:06
beowuffjoshr: just make sure DMA is turned on.06:06
Hexidigitali'm quite partial to kaffeine06:06
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bert_So... Apparently Nobody has any ideas?06:07
ExcaliBerim in soucred.list06:07
ExcaliBerits empty06:07
joshrbeowuff is it hard to turn dma on?06:07
Dr_Willisjoshr,  could install the MythTV packages06:07
FlannelKingExcaliBer: change "breezy" to "dapper" in all the repository lines06:07
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ExcaliBernothign there06:07
intelikeyharisund i don't use getty  because all passwords are locked.     (there is no login, anywhere on this box)06:07
Dr_WillisExcaliBer,  you typed a name or somthing else wrong then06:07
ExcaliBeri dont see anything06:07
CNAPExcaliber: /etc/apt/sources.list06:07
arrick!tell ExcaliBer about easysource06:07
WarboMy: OK, this is what I mean http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1257706:07
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amphibert_: it seems to be looking for an old version of the gtk libs - it's naughty of it to segfault06:07
joshrI am more so looking for audio not tv06:07
beowuffjoshr: Just a sec, I'll get you a link on how to do it.06:07
ExcaliBeroh ok now im in the real one06:07
joshrthanks06:07
FlannelKingheh06:08
ExcaliBerwhere do i change it?06:08
paloymeis bz2 a compressed file? like zip?06:08
joshrmaybe some dvd or mpg, avi, but no tv06:08
bert_amphi: so do you have any idea's apon how to get it to install, or find a debian based version of it?06:08
ExcaliBerUbuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i38606:08
FlannelKingAfter each line (somethign like http://yaddayadda/ breezy main etc)06:08
Dr_Willispaloyme,  yes.06:08
FlannelKingchange breezy to dapper06:08
beowuffjoshr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA06:08
joshrthanks06:08
FlannelKingon each one of those (regardless of what's AFTER breezy)06:08
CNAPExcaliber, i was wrong about the apt-get command you want to enter (once you've updated your sources.list file) "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get upgrade ubuntu-base"06:08
paloymewhats the equivalent of windows explorer in ubuntu?06:08
monsterbHi All - Whats a good harddrive partition setup?  I have a 200GB - how much should I allow for /home  and  /  ??06:08
ExcaliBerleave it to dapper badger?06:08
beowuffjoshr: if DMA is turned on, any player will probably do.06:08
tonyyarussopaloyme: Nautilus.06:08
Warbopaloyme: Nautilus, FireFox, Gnome Panel, etc.06:08
Dr_Willispaloyme,  theres dozens of file managers you can use. and several web browsers06:08
amphibert_: old gtk libs are packaged, but I suspect you'll be entering a world of pain06:08
_jasonpaloyme: nautilus06:09
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joshrthanks beowuff06:09
tonyyarussopaloyme: (By default anyway.)06:09
FlannelKingExcaliBer: erm, there should just be breezy... hold on,06:09
LdyVixWarbo: I got disconnected did I miss something?06:09
bert_amphi: Ah.. And I suspect ye' aren't willing to go through the world of pain to assit me :)06:09
Dr_WillisThing to rember about Linux - theres always a dozen tools to do a job. :P now which one to use that you like - is the hard part.06:09
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CNAPExcaliber: go here: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:09
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amphibert_: I know nothing about that particular one06:09
paloymewhere can i find nautilus?06:09
WarboLdyVix: I've been away myself. Was I talking to you?06:09
Warbopaloyme: Click on Home06:09
tonyyarussopaloyme: Places > Anything, Home, whatever.06:10
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bert_amphi: Ah, Alright, Well thanks for your co-operation. I will keep looking for a Debian based version of it.06:10
LdyVixWarbo: yes you were talking to me... as "My"06:10
FlannelKingExcaliBer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade06:10
FlannelKingexcept, change thigns to breezy instead of dapper (we really not have one for dapper yet?)06:10
WarboLdyVix: OK. Here is a screenshot of my Device Manager to show you: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1257706:10
amphibert_: google will know, no doubt - ##linux people might know06:10
ExcaliBersudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop06:10
ExcaliBerthis is to make it to dapper?06:10
jmoncayodoes somebody know why when i use transparency with aterm and i change the background it stays with the oldder background?06:10
CNAPExcaliber: sudo apt-get update, first06:10
Warbojmoncayo: What window manager?06:11
tonyyarussoFlannelKing: Basically, if they don't know how to get Dapper, they probably shouldn't ;)06:11
amphijmoncayo: because it's fake translucency06:11
CNAPExcaliber: then sudo apt-get update ubuntu-base06:11
FlannelKingtonyyarusso: I suppose.06:11
itsmikehave a portable computer for sale - $450 is the amount include ship. case, wireless router.  message if interested on aim at ogd443 or msn at albertaguy1981@hotmail.com if interested06:11
jmoncayoi am using fluxbox06:11
FlannelKingtonyyarusso: except, it's in beta now, and apparently this beta is stable for english people06:11
Warbojmoncayo: Sorry, can't help06:11
monsterbHi All - Whats a good harddrive partition setup?  I have a 200GB - how much should I allow for /home  and  /  ??06:11
jmoncayoamphi, so it always happens like that06:11
ExcaliBeryou mean sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop?06:11
tonyyarussoFlannelKing: Is the beta actually out?06:11
amphijmoncayo: your X server is not using real alpha-channel, aterm is faking it06:11
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CNAPtonyyarusso: once he gets his sources updated he should be off and running. upgrading to dapper is quite easy with apt-get06:11
paloymeok how do i extract a file to a directory using file browser without being told that i dont have permission?06:12
ExcaliBerthen type this?06:12
ExcaliBersudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop06:12
FlannelKingtonyyarusso: or if nothing else, just because youre not familiar with linux/ubuntu doesn't mean you're not familiar with beta software n general06:12
Warbomonsterb: I have 250GB. I have 20GB /, 150GB /home/chris/Files and the rest to play with different OSs06:12
FlannelKingtonyyarusso: yeah.  Or at least, the artwork seems to think so.06:12
amphiCNAP: someone was just complaining that everything was broken after a dist-upgrade ;)06:12
tonyyarussoCNAP: It's easy to do, but the knowledge that tells you how it's easy doesn't exist when not ready for a development release.06:12
ExcaliBerFlannelking:put this next sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop06:12
ExcaliBer?06:12
tonyyarussoFlannelKing: True, I suppose.06:12
monsterbWarbo, Thanks06:12
paloymeok how do i extract a file to a directory using file browser without being told that i dont have permission?06:13
CNAPamphi: i've been running it for 4 days now straight and i haven't had any problems <fingers crossed>06:13
CNAPtonyyarusso: what do you mean?06:13
tonyyarussoFlannelKing: I heard that earlier, before the 20th actually someone said it proclaimed beta.  Nothing on the -announce mailing list yet though.06:13
Warbomonsterb: I like to keep my prefs and configs seperate from my files, hence the Files folder (so I can use multiple OSs with the same files)06:13
amphipaloyme: by extracting it to a directory under $HOME06:13
tonyyarussoCNAP: Just that generally new users should use the stable release by recommendation.06:13
CNAPtonyyarusso: i agree, traditionally that's been the case. dapper drake is rock solid, especially for beta06:14
bert_Amphi: what is the debian unpackage code for terminal, is it "sudo dpckg -i file.deb" ?06:14
FlannelKingtonyyarusso: besides, he'll test the upgrade process ;) we need them06:14
CNAPexcaliber: sudo apt-get update06:14
amphibert_: yes, if you lose the 'c'06:14
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pbHey everyone, no one seemed to have responded so here goes again anyway...firefox 1.0.8 now shows up in synaptic for update, and I have firefox 1.5 running smoothly (using the instructions in the wiki)... should I neglect the update and continue working, or shall I proceed with the update? Will it break my firefox 1.5 installation?06:14
tritium_zcat[1] : more or less...but not completely06:14
amphizcat[1] : good to hear06:14
ExcaliBerok i did that06:14
tonyyarussoCNAP: Can you confirm official beta out?  I've been wondering for the last 5 hours at what point today it would be.06:14
beowuffbert_ sudo dpkg -i file.deb06:14
tonyyarussoFlannelKing: True.06:14
bert_amphi: Do'H!... My bad... Thanks again :D06:15
intelikeyCNAP if dapper is "rock solid"  i'd hate to see something you considered "shakey at best"06:15
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zcat[1] this one I'm waiting for final though..06:15
ExcaliBerand then i did sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base06:15
CNAPtonyyarusso: official beta? what do you mean?06:15
Warbopb: If you don't use it then don'tupgrade it. No security flaws, etc will affect you if you are in 1.506:15
paloymewhere is xorg.conf located again?06:15
tonyyarussopb: If you followed the wiki, it will be safe to upgrade.06:15
ExcaliBerim done06:15
FlannelKingoh06:15
FlannelKingoh06:15
ExcaliBernow what do i do?06:15
FlannelKingExcaliBer: sttooopppp06:15
CNAPintelikey: what has your experience been with DD?06:15
amphiintelikey: heh06:15
FlannelKinghttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta?highlight=%28Dapper%2906:15
LadyVixWarbo: I cant run more than 1 program at a time or my system locks up06:15
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tonyyarussoCNAP: The April 20th release.  All else has been alpha, not beta.06:15
CNAPExcaliber, yes06:15
FlannelKingfew things down, apparently upgrading has been streamlined06:15
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FlannelKinghttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta06:15
WarboLadyVix: Really? Have you messed around with settings a bit or what?06:15
beowuffpaloyme /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:15
ExcaliBerlol06:15
ExcaliBerso am i done?06:15
amphipaloyme: try 'locate xorg.conf'06:16
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paloymeamphi: thanks06:16
CNAPtonyyarusso: yes, my bad...alpha not beta, and i've been using dapper drake flight 6 since april 1606:16
LadyVixWarbo: I didnt screw with anything... this got installed this morning before work... I just got home i havent touched ANy settings06:16
tonyyarussoCNAP: Ah.06:16
ExcaliBeri still want dapper06:16
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tritium_#ubuntu+1 for dapper discussions please06:16
WarboLadyVix: Hmmm. What kind of hardware? (how old is it?)06:16
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amphihow hot is it? ;)06:17
bert_amphi: after installing a game such as "xbattle".. with the dpkg command, how do I go about launching it?.. where would it be?06:17
zcat[1] installed flight4 and been upgrading occasionally ever since.. the occasional glitch but upgrading again later has always brought things right again.06:17
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ExcaliBerGOD YOU fucking bitches arent telling me shit!!!!!!!!!!06:17
ExcaliBersorry06:17
intelikeyCNAP my exp with dapper is people in here all the time saying "it hosed my X"  or  "last night's updates broke <blah>"    i've never used it my self.  but even the stable releases  hoary breezy  are not "rock solid"  imo06:17
LadyVixWarbo: it did that this morning too tried to have 2 firefox windows open and it locked up... left it that way and it was still that way when I got home06:17
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CNAPexcaliber: i just told you06:17
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zcat[1] that's what I consider solid.06:17
amphibert_: dpkg -L <package_name> will list the files it installed06:17
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CNAPexcaliber: sudo apt-get update06:17
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bert_amphi: ok Thanks.06:17
CNAPexcaliber: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base06:17
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CNAPthat's it06:17
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LadyVixWarbo: how old is it... well bits and pieces are 3 years or more and others are only 6 months...06:17
CNAPexcaliber: sudo apt-get upgrade ubuntu-base06:18
amphiLadyVix: what video card?06:18
CNAPexcaliber:replace "install" with "upgrade"06:18
WarboLadyVix: Sound a bit peculiar. Are you sure it is not just Firefox? (Sorry, but it may lock up again...) Hardware seems fine to run multiple progs.06:18
FlannelKingtonyyarusso: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta read third (?) item on that page.  that seems like the recommended upgrade path ,right? er.. CNAP, you too06:18
LadyVixhave Nvidia 620006:18
LadyVixok... i'm going to put a link up....06:18
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amphiLadyVix: driver problem?06:18
FlannelKingLadyVix: have you tried disabling IPv6?06:18
LadyVixit has my whole system specs06:18
tritium_CNAP: you might have noticed I removed him06:19
zcat[1] I have to admit lots of issues with xgl but that's not an official repo :)06:19
LadyVixFlannelKing: eh?06:19
Warboamphi: Was going to suggest that. Would nvidia be more stable than nv?06:19
FlannelKing!ipv606:19
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv406:19
tonyyarussoFlannelKing: Recommended, but probably because it's easier for less techy ppl.  Anyway, we're off topic, so that should probably be it for this thread.06:19
itsmikehave a portable computer for sale - $450 is the amount include ship. case, wireless router.  message if interested on aim at ogd443 or msn at albertaguy1981@hotmail.com if interested06:19
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paloymehow do i edit my xorg.conf? its on read-only:(06:19
amphiWarbo: dunno, I have an old radeon - I would trust the free driver more than the blob06:19
jipingban itsmike06:19
CNAPtritium_: yeah just did06:19
amphipaloyme: you must have super cow powers06:19
tritium_itsmike: please don't advertise here06:19
Warbopaloyme: Do it as super user (sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf)06:20
intelikeypaloyme / mounted ro ?   remount it.06:20
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zcat[1] itsmike: will you ship to nigeria? my minister needs one!06:20
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CNAPflannelking, yeah well that seems a little easier than what i did but i learned alot more06:20
amphizcat[1] : heh06:20
Warboamphi: I've had a few problems with ati cards.06:20
CNAPso what's the difference between "gksudo" and "sudo"06:20
poikolHI, How can I install dictionaries in OpenOffice ?06:20
janinux2005quien habla espaol06:20
tritium_!es06:20
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:20
LadyVixto all trying to help me... go here    http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=User.Profile&id=5557006:21
bert_Ugh!... Does anybody know where I can find a Debian Based WolfET... This is Exhausting trying to figure out how to install the WolfET.run files when it says it's missing a file!...06:21
janinux2005#ubuntu -es06:21
amphiWarbo: this one works pretty well with the xorg driver - 750-odd fps with glxgears, enough for celestia and stellarium06:21
Warboamphi: Just checked, I'm in ati driver (could be fglrx, could be vesa, that's how stupid it's got)06:21
LadyVixFlannelKing: I've never used Linux before today. XP crashed and i dont have an install disk...06:21
tonyyarussoGrub is great, but are there any graphical bootloaders?  (Is that possible?)06:21
WarboLadyVix: You can use pastebin you know...06:21
amphitonyyarusso: what would they do?06:22
LadyVixI tried thats when I last locked up06:22
Warbotonyyarusso: Smart Boot Manager seems to be a little graphical, but I couldn't get it to work (didn't do what I wanted anyway)06:22
WarboLadyVix: Oh.06:22
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blindxI'm having troubles installing Bundle::Xmms ... can someone help me out?06:22
Hexidigitalcan someone ping my ftp server to see if they get a response? pm me if you can06:22
tonyyarussoamphi: Just have a pretty menu, maybe icons for the choices, if possible mouse support, but that involves drivers and such that would be loaded later.06:22
LadyVixWarbo: lI've rebooted twice since i came into the IRC client06:22
joshrwhat audio player is good06:22
blindxxmms06:23
titanium_platypuxmms06:23
titanium_platypu^_^06:23
joshris mplayer in the repositories?06:23
tonyyarussoamphi: I've heard of, but not seen, this Boot Camp thing - maybe like that.06:23
disco_stuDo I have to reboot my router for firewall settings to be changed on it?06:23
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amphitonyyarusso: icons? ugh ;) all that wouldn't buy you much, really - grub has a shell, what more do you want?06:23
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CNAPjoshr: sudo apt-cache search mplayer06:23
joshrcnap how do i do that?06:23
tonyyarussoamphi: Not so much for me as for Windows users that I can talk into dual-booting.06:23
CNAPgo to your term06:23
tonyyarussoamphi: They're used to graphical stuff.06:23
CNAPjoshr: go to your term06:23
WarboLadyVix: Seems like a decent setup. What client are you in by the way (I find XChat crashes anyway)06:23
amphitonyyarusso: grub looks like ncurses, should be graphical enough for anyone ;)06:24
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dtsI've been my random freezes almost every 1-2 hours of using my computer, is there some sort of test to see if  i have a faulty RAM or hard disk or something that might be causing this?06:24
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amphitonyyarusso: the winduhs bootloader isn't gui, is it?06:24
amphidts: memtest8606:24
bert_amphi: I went to the location and double clicked the x-executable file, and it did nothing...?06:24
tonyyarussoamphi: Windows only boots one thing, no choices offered there, it just goes.06:25
amphibert_: time for TFM, I guess06:25
intelikeydts  also  badblocks06:25
bert_amphi: tfm?.. *Feels very stupid*06:25
LadyVixWarbo: I'm using Ubuntu version 5.04 right off the disk install... ran the auto updates and upgraded firefox thats all I had time to work with before I left for work this morning06:25
Warbotonyyarusso: Give GRUB a nice background. That'll do. Although I have seen a boot disk with icons for different OS's. Still uses keyboard though (and looks like Win95 errr.)06:25
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tonyyarussoWarbo: I've been looking into the grub-splash option.06:25
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WarboLadyVix: Which program are you in for IRC?06:25
paloymewhat does this mean?06:25
paloyme(gedit:8403): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib06:25
paloyme(gedit:8403): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers06:25
dtsintelikey, what's that?06:26
blindxI'm having troubles installing Bundle::Xmms ... can someone help me out?06:26
intelikeydts man badblocks06:26
LadyVix*looks up* Warbo i'm in X-Chat {2.4.1}06:26
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amphitonyyarusso: ntldr can boot other OSes, I hear06:26
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amphibert_: try running it in a term, and see if it says anything06:26
amphitonyyarusso: you could set up ntldr to boot linux also, and then blame windows for the ugliness of the menu ;(06:26
amphier, ;)06:26
joshrcnap nothing happens when i sudo apt-cache search mplayer06:26
amphi!mplayer06:26
ubotufrom memory, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106106:26
tritium_!tell joshr about repos06:26
bert_amphi: and the command for that would be?06:27
amphibert_: the $ADJECTIVE_BEGINNING_WITH_F manual06:27
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tonyyarussoamphi: Not worth it.  I'll stick with grub.06:27
amphibert_: the binary06:27
CNAPjoshr: sudo apt-get update06:27
joshri checked the repos for mplayer and dont get anythign06:27
WarboLadyVix: Well, just in case I would say go into GAIM. I've had terrible problems with XChat but none with GAIM06:27
bert_amphi: you lost me...06:27
amphibert_: something the package installed to /usr/bin most likely06:27
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bert_amphi: ok so just type the package directory?06:28
bert_amphi: what do I type before it?06:28
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amphibert_: no; you should read the docs that came with the package, I think06:28
LadyVixWarbo: MSN biersremorse@hotmail.com or biersremorse@yahoo.com06:28
jmoncayoamphi, so i cant fix it? the aterm transparency stuff?06:28
_jasonjoshr: have you enabled breezy multiverse?06:28
bert_amphi: ok06:28
dtshow do i memtest86? do i need to reboot06:28
WarboLadyVix: IRC (I'm in GAIM right now)06:28
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tritium_joshr: did you see the URL I had ubotu send you?  You need multiverse06:29
amphijmoncayo: not unless you want to hack on the X server ;) I believe this xgl thing provides real alpha-channel amongst other eye-candy06:29
joshrno i haven't enabled breezy multiverse06:29
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jmoncayofor what do i use memtest86?06:29
bert_amphi: thanks for your help I'll try another day, i need to learn more about Unix before I continue.. Thanks again.. Later06:29
amphidts: yes06:29
LadyVixWarbo: eh?... dont you have to register it before you can use it that way?06:29
joshrok06:29
CarlFKcan http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ handle a 350K paste?  (log file)06:29
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joshri will try that06:29
tritium_joshr: that's your problem, then06:29
amphijmoncayo: testing memory06:29
joshrthanks06:29
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intelikeydts yes    it is a boot option on default ub.06:29
amphiCarlFK: try it ;)06:30
CNAPjoshr: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list06:30
dtsamphi, so what happens if i find something?06:30
WarboLadyVix: Do you? I put in irc.freenode.net, username Warbo, no password and it log in fine. Am I an idiot?06:30
CNAPjoshr, what do you see?06:30
CarlFKokee dokee... here goes...06:30
dtsamphi, do i need to replace my memory?06:30
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amphidts: there's a kernel patch that lets you tell the kernel not to use certain addresses06:30
jmoncayoamphi, have you hacked the x server before?06:30
amphijmoncayo: nope ;)06:30
CarlFKamphi: you talking about the BadRam patch?06:30
amphijmoncayo: I imagine it's pretty horrifying in there06:31
amphiCarlFK: that's it, I think06:31
jmoncayoamphi, what file do i need to modify for doing that stuff?06:31
amphijmoncayo: many, I expect06:31
LadyVixWarbo: ok I"m logged in... now what06:31
CarlFKamphi: there is BadRam and BadMem - forlks or something.  I could never get them to work with 2.606:31
jmoncayoamphi, but i dont have that problem on my desktop, its only with this laptop06:31
amphiCarlFK: I haven't needed to use them, but I read about them06:31
WarboLadyVix: First of all open gnome-system-monitor (I think it's in System Tools)06:32
itsmikehave a portable computer for sale - $450 is the amount include ship. case, wireless router.  message if interested on aim at ogd443 or msn at albertaguy1981@hotmail.com if interested06:32
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amphijmoncayo: dunno - I don't like translucent terms, so I never paid them much heed06:32
tritium_itsmike: I told you not to advertise in here already!06:32
blindxI'm having troubles installing Bundle::Xmms ... can someone help me out? ( http://pastebin.com/670707 )06:32
CarlFKamphi: I had a 256 meg laptop stick that had a few bad bits... could never get it to work, freind looked at it and said "forget it"06:32
CarlFKhmm, kinda worked: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1257906:32
dtshow would i run badblocks on my primary partition?06:33
amphiCarlFK: I had some marginal ram in my old t22, but the errors 'moved around', so I just underclocked it a bit06:33
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CarlFKI don't think firefox can deal with a 350k+ web page06:33
LadyVixWarbo: ok I have that open...06:33
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WarboLadyVix: What kind of levels are the CPU and RAM in Resources?06:34
nickgarveywhat wolud be the command to compress a folder in tar.gz? I don't understand the man file06:34
King-of-no-pantsamphi: im trying ndiswrapper again06:34
amphiCarlFK: I opened multi-megabyte html pages in ancient versions of mozilla06:34
Warbonickgarvey: tar -xzcf folder (I think)06:34
LadyVixWarbo: CPU10% but it keeps changing Memory is 23%06:34
WarboNo!06:35
jmoncayoamphi, i have other question, i have a python script for my battery status and it seems that my battery is dying, because when i gets complitly charged it says it is at 80% and it used to say 100%06:35
nickgarveyWarbo: nope, can't be, the x means extract06:35
Warbotar -zf archive foler06:35
CarlFKamphi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12579  the last line I see is # 1927 Apr1918:39:57debconf:<--0multiselectbackupprogresscancel06:35
morficWarbo: not x and c, one or the other, c in his case06:35
amphijmoncayo: you might need to run it down to recalibrate it06:35
CarlFKamphi: and then lots of 'emptyness'06:35
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WarboLadyVix:  OK, so your system isn't under any huge load06:35
LadyVixWarbo: CPU is 3% now06:35
WarboLadyVix: That's normal06:35
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blindxI'm having troubles installing Bundle::Xmms ... can someone help me out? ( http://pastebin.com/670707 )06:36
WarboLadyVix: It may have been XChat, I don't know06:36
amphiCarlFK: line numbers run out at 4941 here, but the file continues...06:36
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WarboLadyVix: Sadly any testing will result in a crash06:36
LadyVixWarbo: ok ... tell me the proper way to "upgrade" firefox in Ubuntu06:36
nickgarveymorfic: wait what shoud I be typing?06:36
LTR2000how do igive myself permissions to my OWN HOME FOLDER06:36
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LadyVixWarbo: because i just downloaded another copy and extracted it06:36
Dr_WillisLTR2000,  Hmm.. what did you do that removed them?06:36
nickgarveyLTR2000: sudo chmod 700 /home/user if you want only ou to be able to see it06:36
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amphiCarlFK: last line I see is "5 logical  378.3 MB   F swap       swap   , , Undo changes to partitions, Finish partitioning and write changes to disk"06:37
morficnickgarvey: tar zcf thearchive.tgz thedirtobackup/06:37
LTR2000nickgarvey06:37
nickgarveymorfic: thank you06:37
CarlFKamphi: the file was made with head -n 4940 syslog >syslog4940  so thats about right06:37
amphiCarlFK: according to w3m it's over a meg06:37
WarboLadyVix: System>Administration>Syanptic Package Manager. Reload then Mark All Upgrades then Apply06:37
LTR2000i want to copy a folder from my NTFS drive to my home folder to burn it06:37
LTR2000and it says i dont have permissions06:37
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blindxhow are you doing it, LTR2000 ?06:37
CarlFKamphi: the file was 350k - guess threre is a bit of overhead06:37
WarboLadyVix: Downloading software from websites? Tsk, tsk. No GPG keys, no dependencies. That's such a windows way of working06:37
morficnickgarvey: switch z to j for bzip2 and thus better compression, and now read man tar on those options again ;)06:37
jmoncayoamphi, well i think so but it means the battery is dying?i am using the /proc/acpi/battery/BATO/state file for this script?06:37
LTR2000drag and drop06:37
joshris there a guide anywhere to uninstall just about everything that comes with ubuntu, like all the programs that are non essential06:38
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LadyVixWarbo: it wouldnt let me said it was as "high" as it would go... and the only "force" was a lower one. and all the "extentions" for firefox woudlnt work with the version of the browser that came with Ubuntu06:38
Dr_Willisjoshr,  check the wikis for ubuntu-light I think06:38
joshrthanks06:38
cafuegojoshr: What's not essential for you may be for me.06:38
intelikeyhmmm is there a line in /proc/ that contains the current cpu usage ?06:38
joshri am trying to remove everything not essential to a media center used pc06:38
WarboLadyVix: If you want Firefox 1.5 then there is a guide somewhere (anybody?) but it is also in Dapper06:38
LadyVixWarbo: *blushes*.. what a GPG?06:38
cafuego/proc/stat06:39
naliothubotu: tell LadyVix about gpg06:39
FlannelKing!ff06:39
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, FlannelKing06:39
FlannelKing!ff1.506:39
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:39
amphijmoncayo: do 'cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info | grep capacity | head -n2' to see how moribund it is06:39
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WarboLadyVix: PGP=Pretty Good Privacy. GPG= GNU version. Checks keys to make sure stuff is genuine and from a trusted source06:39
Smirker_L:P06:39
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WarboHow would LadyVix upgrade Firefox?06:39
intelikeycafuego danke06:40
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jmoncayodesign capacity:         65120 mWh06:40
jmoncayolast full capacity:      34040 mWh06:40
blindxI'm having troubles installing Bundle::Xmms ... can someone help me out? ( http://pastebin.com/670707 )06:40
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PlitskinHi, is there a HOWTO on how to create a startup script? I just want to invoke a single command before X window starts up... I'm trying to disable mouse tapping...06:40
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amphijmoncayo: so it's degenerated somwhat06:40
Warboblindx: I don't get the Bundle:: thing (is it obvious?)06:40
xplorepetrus06:41
blindxthat's the name of it06:41
blindxit's a perl module06:41
LadyVixWarbo: Pretty much my life has been "work work... play NWN for a few hours... work work.... I have no life... all I want is my Game back06:41
WarboHello? Upgrading Firefox?06:41
jmoncayoamphi, why could it be for?06:41
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xplorexpole06:41
amphijmoncayo: Lion batteries just degenerate - heat accelerates the decay06:41
WarboSomething Ubotu knows?06:41
intelikeyPlitskin put your command in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh  just before the  exit 0  at the bottom.06:41
Madpilot!tell Warbo about ff1.506:41
LadyVixWarbo: all I use the browser for is to check the bank balance06:41
Dr_WillisPlitskin,  some of that depends on the window manager.. Gnome has a  gnomerc file i recall - or ya could make a script and put it in the gnome 'session' thats gets ran at startup.. or a dozen other ways to do it.06:42
WarboMadpilot: It's actually for LadyVix!06:42
Madpilot!tell LadyVix about ff1.506:42
WarboMadpilot: Thank you06:42
amphijmoncayo: you can reduce heat a bit by undervolting the cpu06:42
blindxgo with lynx for checking bank balances.06:42
blindxpwn06:42
amphiw3m06:42
Madpilotthere we go - Warbo anyone can give the bot orders like that, btw06:42
invisage01Madpilot: what does that !tell stuff do?06:42
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PlitskinDr_Willis: Thanks, will try that now...06:42
Madpilotinvisage01, gets the bot to send pm06:42
jmoncayoamphi, so heat is the enemy here, that could be the problem this laptop was on for like three days in a row,06:42
Warbomadpilot: I didn't know what it was06:42
Madpilots to people06:42
zcat[1] amphi: I tried. Not sure about heat but I managed to reduce stability quite a lot.06:42
Madpilotbleh, blasted Enter key :P06:43
amphijmoncayo: the battery will lose capacity anyway - having them fully charged while not using them for long periods isn't good either06:43
PlitskinDr_Willis: do I need to restart my machine after I edit the file?06:43
Warboblindx: Lynx? down, down, down, down, down....06:43
blindxlynx owns. lol06:44
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intelikeylinks2 -g06:44
Dr_WillisPlitskin,  depends on what you are doing exactly. Theres several ways you could do this.06:44
Warboblindx: Lynx is good for finding out why X crashed06:44
zcat[1] google doesn't like lynx :(06:44
Dr_WillisPlitskin,  exit out of X and relogin back in..  proberly is all ya need.06:44
amphizcat[1] : heh - I use mprime in torture mode to find the minimum safe voltages, and it's been stable, even running povray for days at a time06:44
Warbozcat: Acceppt the cookie and it's OK06:44
intelikeylinks06:44
blindxWouldn't it be cool to have a piece of paper... as a web browser?06:44
amphizcat[1] : google likes w3m06:44
blindxI'm going to invent it.06:44
zcat[1] depends on the version of lynx.. I keep getting refused06:44
LadyVixWarbo: pardon but now what?06:45
Warboblindx: Not if I beat you to the patent office...06:45
PlitskinDr_Willis: thanks, I hope I wouldn't have to do any scripting at all though...06:45
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blindxWarbo: gonna sue me? :P06:45
jmoncayoamphi, oh thats interesting, but in last few days i have been losing capacity extreamly fast06:45
FlannelKingtoo late guys, I already postmarked the idea to myself.06:45
Dr_WillisPlitskin,  its a 2 line 'script' ya could make so you got a GDM  menu item as well. :P lol.06:45
blindxI want to install a USB port right behind my ear.06:45
zcat[1] Your client has issued a malformed or illegal request.06:45
WarboLadyVix: Well if you have followed the guide then you should have got rid of your downloaded Firefox, which was probably causing those problems.06:45
blindxjust plug in a flash drive..06:45
Dr_WillisPlitskin,  or a 2 line .xinitrc file . if you want to use the console and 'startx'06:45
blindxlearn things in an instant06:45
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blindxomg, i'd install linux on my brain06:46
zcat[1] error 400..06:46
Warboblindx: Well I'm sure Linux would support it. x86, m68k, ppc, brain...06:46
intelikeyblindx not me.   i like linux.  but i'll keep the os i was born with....06:46
PlitskinDr_Willis: This whole thing is messing my brain... I hope I could find the time to read about that...06:46
blindxWell I'd keep the old one.06:46
blindxuse grub06:46
intelikeylol06:47
Warboblindx: Errr. Grub in my brain06:47
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zcat[1] totally appropriate..06:47
intelikeyonly if lilo will work..... then i'll think about it.06:47
LadyVixWarbo: this is what it says libstdc++5 is already newest version06:47
blindxAnyways, I still need help. lemme doskey up to find my pastebin link.06:47
Dr_WillisPlitskin,  old skool way. :P  create a .xinitrc file for the user. have it run the command (with a & at the end) then run gnome-session.  Startx will startx and run that .xinitrc06:47
WarboLadyVix: That means it doesn't need upgrading06:47
blindx...I'm having troubles installing Bundle::Xmms ... can someone help me out? ( http://pastebin.com/670707 )06:47
biovoreWarbo: sounds like you need a wood pecker to peck on your head06:47
Warbobiovore: Well, it's full of holes already06:48
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intelikeybiovore  ^506:48
PlitskinDr_WIllis: is it legal to put a command after rm -f /tmp/.clean /var/run/.clean /var/lock/.clean06:48
Dr_WillisPlitskin,   you mean in the .xinitrc ?06:48
rukuarticPlitskin: put and && at the end? I think?06:48
Plitskinnope, the bootmisc.sh06:48
biovoreintelikey: trign to get lilo installed?06:48
Dr_Willisnever messed with bootmisc.sh06:49
Warbo!tell me about ff1.506:49
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paloymewhere can i find the linux source directory?06:49
WarboCOOL!06:49
Phlostenrm -r /tmp/.clean && rm -f /var/run/.clean etc06:49
PlitskinActually, I'm gonna put it on another line...06:49
paloymei mean the kernel sources06:49
WarboOh.06:49
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zcat[1] should be OK to put a command anywhere between '#!/bin/bash' and 'exit 0'06:49
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Warbopaloyme: Usually /lib/modules/kernelversion/build06:49
Dr_Willisbe sure the command will EXIT and not 'hang' the shell..06:49
blindxAre there any graphical SQL programs out there? >_>06:49
Dr_Willisor spawn it to the bg with  &06:49
paloymethanks warbo06:49
LadyVixWarbo: *shakes head* I have 2 copies of Firefox on my machine... version 1.08 which came with Ubuntu and version 1.5.0.2 which i downloaded. the 1.08 is the highest available to integrate.06:49
Plitskinhmmm... ok...06:50
intelikeyPhlosten you know that  && only exec's 2 if 1 completes without error   1 ; 2    will run the both reguardless.06:50
harisundDoes anybody have an idea why my sound input is not working? Ubuntu correctly identified my ESS Maestro3 PCI card, and I can hear all sounds, but it is refusing to record my input. Anything I should do?06:50
Plitskinsorry for being reduntant but...06:50
MadpilotLadyVix, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion, if you haven't already06:50
WarboLadyVix: Yes. You should always use Ubuntu's packages. The only problem is that Breezy is a little out of date at the moment06:50
Plitskinshould I put the   .xinitrc file in the init.d directory?06:50
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WarboLadyVix: Do you really need your plugins?06:50
zcat[1] intelikey: which means it won't happen if any of the .clean files are missing (and thus fail to be rm'd)06:50
Plitskinor should it be in my home directory?06:50
Phlostenintelikey, no i didnt, there ya go, I do now ;)06:50
LadyVixI'm getting So tired of that *shakes head from the fall*06:51
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Dr_WillisPlitskin,  TOTALLY wrong.. its a PER user file06:51
harisundShould I cofigure Line In or microphone or something? I realy want to use Skype and Ekiga and others..06:51
intelikeyPhlosten also of note    1 || 2     2 only runs if 1 fails.    the inverse of &&06:51
Dr_WillisPlitskin,  its read when the user starts X with 'startx'06:51
LadyVixWarbo: the browser is a side issue... I just want my sound to work... and it doesnt06:51
Phlostenintelikey, ooh more brain filling goodness06:51
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Dr_WillisPlitskin,  nothing to do with init.d or anythign else.06:52
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WarboLadyVix: If you want latest stuff then go the way of Dapper, but stability is important to us Linux folk (and security, which is intertwined with stability) and a major upgrade like 1.0 to 1.5 is not worth all of the debugging and stabilising so close to Dapper06:52
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Patrick_Is there pornography in the latest version of Ubuntu?06:52
PlitskinDr_Willis: where should I place it then? I should be creating one right?06:52
tritium_no, Patrick_06:52
zcat[1] Patrick_: there is in mine!06:52
LadyVix*looks confused* I want my Windows back... i'm so confused here06:52
Dr_WillisPlitskin,  its in the USERS home dir. :P06:52
FlannelKingPatrick_: no.  there hasn't been that for three versions06:52
Patrick_Sweet.06:52
WarboLadyVix: OK, do you know who makes your soundcard and it's model? (maybe Device Manager?)06:52
intelikeyPhlosten just thought you might want to know if you were playing around in scripts....    it's good to know how to read them...06:53
tritium_*sigh*06:53
PlitskinDr_Willis: thank you so much :D06:53
Dr_WillisPlitskin,  same as wll the other .whatever files (note the .)06:53
harisundwhat is the difference between microphone and line in? Which should I enable to start chating on Skype, Ekiga etc/06:53
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WarboLadyVix: Linux is LOGICAL. There is a big difference between Linux and Windows06:53
Phlostenintelikey, its all good, I am slowly learning scripts etc, so it all helps06:53
nickgarveyline in is.. blue?06:53
intelikeyPlitskin put your command in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh  just before the  exit 0  at the bottom.06:53
harisundAnd should I be using Alsa or OSS? /me is totally confused when it comes to audio input?06:53
nickgarveyI think?06:53
LadyVixWarbo:   http://www3.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=PSC724/17&scy=US&slg=en06:53
LTR2000how do i copy a folder to my desktop in terminal06:53
intelikey^ that's a repete from the first time Phlosten asked.06:53
WarboLadyVix: Oh yeah...06:54
nickgarveyLTR2000: cp /path/to/folder ~/Desktop06:54
nickgarveyLTR2000: wait no06:54
nickgarveyLTR2000: cp -are /path/to/folder ~/Desktop06:54
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LadyVixWarbo the other is onboard soundchip with the Shuttle MB06:54
nickgarveywhat?!06:54
nickgarveyLTR2000: cp -R /path/to/folder ~/Desktop06:54
nickgarveydo not auto correct me!06:54
nickgarveyso how are you06:54
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nickgarveyI DID NOT TYPE THAT!06:54
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LadyVixWarbo: I have had sound issues with drivers even with windows06:55
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LadyVixbut never with the onboard only the philips06:55
paloymewhat does # in a terminal do?06:55
nickgarveyhmm... what is this midnight commander...06:56
nickgarveypaloyme: makes everything after it not part of the command06:56
Dr_Willispaloyme,  you really MAY want to goole for a bash tutorial or 3.06:56
paloymeso its like a comment?06:56
Dr_Willisit is a comment. :P06:56
nickgarveypaloyme: exactly06:56
paloyme.... :(06:56
WarboLadyVix: You know why I hate Windows? Because of the Winfixer 2006 Your computer may have Registry errors.... message I just got looking for your driver06:56
Plitskinok, edit the bootmis.sh is what I did... Now I will restart my system... thanks everyone...06:56
paloymepaloyme,  you really MAY want to goole for a bash tutorial or 3, whats a 3?06:56
Warbo:(06:56
Dr_WillisPlitskin,  you dident put an X related command in there did ya?06:57
intelikeypaloyme or even   man bash   and read it through.06:57
King-of-no-pantsFATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found06:57
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nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: same thing happend to be..06:57
zcat[1] Warbo: go on.. click on it.. it's fun to see how far that stuff can get under wine :)06:57
PlitskinDr_illis: this is the only command I put there... tpconfig --tapmode=006:57
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: how did I fix it...06:57
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Phlostencyphase, i got them ;)06:57
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Dr_WillisPlitskin,  oh.. thats fine. :P06:57
cyphaselol06:57
bert__Ok, And I return... Still searching for a Debian Based Game, anyone have any idea?06:57
harisundBreezy has correctly identified my sound card ESS Maestro3 PCI. Sound output is awesome. However, it is unable to record my voice. Do i choose ALSA or OSS? Do I choose microphone or line in? What should I do to start using Skype, Ekiga etc?06:57
LadyVixWarbo: What is Winfixer? and registry errors? how can that be since this is a fresh wiped harddrive that i installed to06:57
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: Id love to know06:57
PlitskinDr_Willis: I hope I wouldn't crash my system :D06:57
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: have your kernel sources?06:58
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King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: ?06:58
PlitskinDr_Willis: all this trouble just to disable the touchpad lolz06:58
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nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: guess not, second06:58
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: you mean an install cd?06:58
Dr_WillisPlitskin,   trivial really.06:58
LTR2000how come there is an X beside the folders06:58
WarboLadyVix: No no, just a spam popup thing (wow, I can really get registry errors in Linux :)) Anyway I found a page from 2005 which said there are no drivers. Maybe there are now though06:58
bert__Can anybody find me a Debian Based version of Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, or any Multiplayer game, of the sort?06:58
melarenMy computer seems to freeze up cold when playing music through rhythmbox.  How would I go about pinpointing the cause?06:58
Plitskinok, brb06:58
Dr_WillisPlitskin,  it will now take ya all of like 20 sec to do again if ya needed to06:59
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titanium_platypuI am trying to learn Flightgear06:59
zcat[1] Plitskin: suggestion; lift keyboard; unplug touchpad; replace keyboard.06:59
WarboLadyVix: Put the output of "lspci" into pastebin please06:59
Dr_WillisMy Laptop has an OFF button on it next to the touchpad.06:59
Dr_Willis:P06:59
titanium_platyputhe lat. and long. in the HUD doesn't change no matter what airport I go to06:59
titanium_platypuwhat the deuce?06:59
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eggzeckapt-cache search <programname>06:59
intelikeytrubble.... edit one init script, add one command.....   trubble ?06:59
eggzeckoops, sorry that was meant for somewhere else...06:59
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: did you compile your own or use ndiswrapper from the repositories?06:59
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: i used ndiswrapper from the synaptic package manager07:00
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: I uninstalled it earlier today, because it was crashing my system07:00
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LadyVixWarbo: try this one.... http://www3.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?scy=US&slg=AEN&cat=PC_AUDIO_CA&sct=SOUNDCARDS_SU&session=20060420010018_69.69.196.154&grp=MONITORS_PC_PERIPHERALS_GR&ctn=PSC724/17&mid=Link_Software&hlt=Link_Software07:00
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: are you comfortable compiling your own programs? its a breeze trust e07:00
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: I went through and deleted every thing that said ndiswrapper, just like the ndiswrapper wiki told me to07:00
bert__I take it as, Not a soul in here, can help me, out of almost 700 People, Nobody.. Well I guess I'm screwed.. :)07:01
LadyVixWarbo: and how do I do that? and where is lspci?07:01
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: if you can lead me through it, I'll do it07:01
melarenHelp Please.  My computer seems to freeze up cold when playing music through rhythmbox.  How would I go about pinpointing the cause?07:01
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zcat[1] bert__: what was teh question?07:01
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: good, apt-get remove ndiswrapper-utils, rm -are /etc/ndiswrapper, rm -are /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper07:01
WarboLadyVix: Open a terminal (Applications>Accessories>Terminal) and type lspci07:01
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nickgarveyWHERE IT SAYS ARE PUT R07:01
nickgarvey(twitch)07:01
nickgarveylet me turn that off..07:01
cowlikkdoes anyone know how i can access my windows network07:02
LadyVixWarbo: *blinks* em... now what?07:02
bert__zcat[1] : I need to find a Debian based war game, LIke Wolfenstein: enemy territoriy, I did find WolfET, for Linux, but it's a .run file and it says that it failed the installation at this x86/glibc-2.1...so I figured I could find a Debian based one, and make things easier on myself.07:02
FlannelKingcowlikk: samba07:02
nickgarvey!tell cowlikk about samba07:02
WarboLadyVix: It give you loads of crazy writing? copy it into pastebin please07:02
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: ok is ndiswrapper gone?07:02
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: and you are sure you have the right drivers?07:03
cowlikkhow do i get/use samba07:03
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: not yet, almost07:03
nickgarveycowlikk: look at the link ubotu sent you07:03
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: yeah, ive got the right drivers07:03
eneriedhello07:03
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: ok tell me when ndiswrapper is gone07:03
eneriedme now07:03
LadyVixhow do i get to pastebin ?07:03
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: ok07:03
nickgarvey!tell LadyVix about paste07:03
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eneriedme again, sorry07:03
nickgarveyyou better be sorry!07:03
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nickgarveylooking for help in a support channel07:03
nickgarveywhat's wrong with you07:03
reterhow can one add java in hoary07:03
WarboLadyVix: pastebin.com07:03
SDsamba07:04
zcat[1] bert__: package management is good. search in synaptic and see what's already available. Much easier than trying to get some random installer to work.07:04
nickgarveyreter: hoary? sure you still want to run that?07:04
mihi just a first run07:04
reter!tell reter java07:04
enerieder... did you know how the next ubuntu wwill be released? i read somewhere that they are planing to ship it in DVD format but i dunno07:04
nickgarvey!tell reter about java07:04
tritium_eneried: in June07:04
nickgarveyeneried: I'd say.. download07:04
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: invalid option -- a07:04
bert__zcat[1] : Ok, Do you have Step - by - Step on how to do this, FYI, This is my first day on Linux.. I'm slowly learning...So... Where do I begin? :)07:04
invisage01!tell invisage01 about java07:04
eggzeckeneried, or upgrade with apt07:04
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LadyVixhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1258207:05
eneriedhehe07:05
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: where it says "are" put "r" that was my autocorrenting IM07:05
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King-of-no-pantsnice07:05
eneriedbut now we're interested in the release form, because we want to work with ubuntu07:05
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LadyVixWarbo: did you get that?    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1258207:05
zcat[1] alt-F2, type 'synaptic', enter your password..07:05
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: while removing ndiswrapper-utils, directory `/etc/ndiswrapper' not empty so not removed.07:05
mikeo1anyone here using xgl?07:06
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: put -r after rm07:06
WarboLadyVix: You're root???!!!07:06
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nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: rm -r /etc/ndiswrapper07:06
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: rm -r /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper07:06
eneriedand we want to have the packages for offline instalations, we want to use ubuntu with offline instalations, for example, in installations to schools and offices07:06
nickgarveyeneried: look into edubuntu?07:06
WarboLadyVix: You better not be logged in as root grahically!07:06
eneriedyes i looked edubuntu too07:06
LadyVixWarbo: *shrugs* i'll Unroot myself later07:07
reterwhats wrong with hoary07:07
zcat[1] mikeo1: I was.. later updates broke it..07:07
eggzeckwhy can't she be logged in as root? :P07:07
LadyVixi'm not...07:07
tritium_nothing, reter.  There's just a newer stable release.07:07
eneriedbut i want to get ubuntu in dvds like we can do with debian, but peersonaly i preffer ubuntu over debian07:07
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LadyVixWarbo: i'm logged in as user in the GUI07:07
andrewwhello07:07
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WarboLadyVix: OK. First thing's first, don't be root. (OMG, do these Windows users know nothing? Downloading software and running it as root? Then asking why it crashes?)07:07
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: cannot remove `/etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper': no such file or directory07:07
WarboLadyVix: Did you sudo -s -H or sudo -i?07:08
eneriedubuntu is more end-user oriented than any other linux distro, and even windows07:08
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: sounds good to me07:08
zcat[1] bert__: you got that far?07:08
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: apt-get install subversion07:08
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: me too07:08
WarboLadyVix: Well it sees your AC 97 (as we knew)07:08
andrewwhas anyone got Ubuntu working with Bell Sympatico?07:08
bert__zcat[1] : no because I'm not logged in under root, so how would I do it in terminal, to get that far?...07:08
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LadyVixWarbo: I didnt login as root... and i dont know how to do that.... I opened the terminal window it opened as root and asked for password *shrugs*07:08
WarboLadyVix: Oh no...07:09
zcat[1] bert__: don't need to be root, just the first user (you're using ubuntu right?) in the gui07:09
WarboLadyVix: You didn't use the dreaded Automatix did you?07:09
LadyVixWarbo: dont go having palpatations on me... and whats that?07:09
nickgarveydon't say that word Warbo!07:09
FlannelKingthat's a no ;)07:09
WarboLadyVix: Nothing nothing.....07:09
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WarboSpeak of it and it shall install...07:10
LadyVixWarbo: I used the Ubuntu installer that came on the disk.... i installed  yesterday at about 9am...07:10
bert__zcat[1] : Yes, I am using Ubuntu, and it says this when I try to do what you said, "You must run this program as root user"07:10
WarboLadyVix: OK.07:10
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: alright07:10
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: thats setup07:10
melarenWhat do you guys think about easyubuntu?  Any problems with it?07:10
zcat[1] bert__: I'm assuming a fairly normal ubuntu install, let me know if you chose server or kubuntu or did something else that breaks my assumptions :)07:10
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nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: copy this command07:10
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: "svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ndiswrapper/trunk/ndiswrapper ndiswrapper"07:10
Madpilotbert__, which tutorial are you following? URL, please?07:10
WarboLadyVix: Well, for a start have you tried your speakers in the on board sound?07:10
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: without the "07:10
intelikeyi had no idea there was so much software devoted to GAMEs in linux    apt-cache search game | less07:10
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enerieddoes anybody know where to download DVDs or CDs with unioverse and multiverse?07:11
bert__madpilot: I'm not following any tutorial.. zcat[1]  is helping me.07:11
Madpilotintelikey, try Same Gnome, if you like puzzle games07:11
cowlikkhow do i use samba07:11
nickgarvey!samba07:11
bert__zcat[1] : I did the workstation, and it's Dapper I think...07:11
Warboeneried: Don't think it can be done07:11
ubotusomebody said samba was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html07:11
intelikeyMadpilot i've seen that/07:11
LadyVixWarbo: thats the first thing i did was switch my speakers to the output on the MB... but nada07:11
nickgarveycowlikk: go there07:11
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: done?07:11
zcat[1] bert__: ok.. you probably want a desktop install first. not a lot of stuff (games in particular) is going to work from the console07:12
intelikeyMadpilot actually i don't play games.....  hardly ever.    too old for such.07:12
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King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: yep07:12
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eneriedWarbo, so that DVDs doesn't exist?07:12
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: cd ndis(hit tab for autocomplete)07:12
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hupp3lhey07:12
hupp3lhow can I access files from my windows partition?07:12
bert__zcat[1] : are you kidding me.... ?... so I have to reformat it again?.. or is there another option that's less painful :)07:12
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kaha*46 and plays games*07:12
zcat[1] solid_liq: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   .. and wait a few hours :)07:12
miahey07:12
WarboLadyVix: (wishing there was the Fedora Sound Test thingy on Ubuntu) well it's probably trying to use the soundin your Phillips stuff. Let's tell it to use AC 97 which works07:12
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: could not read status line: secure connection truncated07:12
Madpilotbert__, you can install the full desktop on top of the server/workstation install07:13
Whyvashupp3l, google mounting ntfs ubuntu07:13
intelikey!tell hupp3l about ntfs07:13
melarenWarbo: what do you think about easyubuntu?07:13
bert__Madpilot: How do I do that?07:13
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: wait what? what did you do?07:13
FlannelKingeasyUbuntu is good! auto- is bad!07:13
Warboeneried: There is no DVD (AFAIK) of Universe and Multiverse, and Canonical would never make one to include with Dapper07:13
King-of-no-pantsthe svn co https07:13
LadyVixWarbo: and how do I do that?07:13
Madpilotbert__, at the command line, type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" w/o the quotes07:13
zcat[1] sorry07:13
zcat[1] bert__: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   .. and wait a few hours :)07:13
Warbomelaren: I haven't heard much bad about it. I use neither (I like Linux to be Linux)07:13
bert__Madpilot: Eh.. How long will that take...*scared*07:13
WarboLadyVix: I'm getting to that07:13
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eneriedoh bad notice07:14
bert__zcat[1] : Oh ok07:14
instaDoes anyone have an easy way, from a CLI machine, send an MP3 playlist to a ShoutCAST ( *not* IceCAST ) server?07:14
FlannelKingeneried: ubuntu isn't like debian where you can download oodles of packages on CD, although you can download the debs of the stuff you want, burn to CDs, and install them locally.07:14
LadyVixWarbo: I'm sorry i get grumpy when my computer doesnt work right... I havent killed any trolls in about a week because of it07:14
hupp3lthank you07:14
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melarenWarbo: Ok cool.  Yeah, so the general consensus seems to be that automatix is evil?07:14
Madpilotbert__, it's a big batch of downloads - probably a few hundred Mb, I really don't know07:14
WarboLadyVix: Simple thing to try first: Preferences > Sound07:14
eneriedhow good or bad is the idea of using Ubuntu with Debian packages?07:14
bert__Madpilot: uh.. error already..07:14
zcat[1] bert__: actually it will probably grab most of it off the CD07:14
intelikeyany time hupp3l07:15
zcat[1] eneried: very very bad.07:15
Whyvasis there a gui to pick your default window manager???07:15
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King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: here we go07:15
LadyVixWarbo: thats the first thing i tried ws the in GUI preferences... but ok...07:15
bert__Madpilot: One second, I will try this.. it says to do this instead, apt get -f..07:15
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: ok type uname -r and copy and paste the number here07:15
Warbomelaren: Yes. It does stuff without asking and crazy things like binding System Monitor to ctrl-alt-delete07:15
intelikeyeneried bad idea.07:15
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eneriedbad? even using Debian release newer than ubuntu release?07:15
WarboLadyVix: Do you get multiple options in the device box?07:15
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King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: wait, what about the cd ndis07:15
bert__Madpilot: Still didn't work.. Hm..07:15
melarenWarbo: k, thanks.07:15
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: you did it right?07:15
King-of-no-pantsno07:15
zcat[1] ubuntu is sometimes compatable with debian packages.. but don't rely on it.07:16
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Madpilotbert__, what's the full error message (pastebin if it's more than one line)07:16
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: do it, then paste what I told you07:16
bert__zcat[1] :07:16
bert__zcat[1] : ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.07:16
bert__You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:07:16
bert__The following packages have unmet dependencies:07:16
bert__  xbattle: Depends: xlibs (> 4.1.0) but it is not going to be installed07:16
bert__E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).07:16
instaideas?  anyone?07:16
nickgarvey!tell bert__ about paste07:16
reterchmod +x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin07:16
intelikeyeneried yes, bad idea.  because just because it's a .deb  doesn't mean it's compiled against the same glibc07:16
hupp3lbut i dont understand then it looks like it is already mounted in media07:16
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: no such file or directory07:16
hupp3lhda1 so why cant i access it07:16
reteri did this command and it doesnt find the downloaded file. chmod +x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin07:16
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: hit tab.. after ndis...07:16
zcat[1] bert__: sudo apt-get -f install   sounds like it might help :)07:16
LadyVixWarbo: under Sound i dont have much of a selection but nothing to select input or output07:16
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: autocomplete..07:17
hupp3lit asks me to be root07:17
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey:neato07:17
WarboLadyVix: Hmmm...07:17
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: ok07:17
hupp3lbut when i go sudo cd /media/hda107:17
bert__zcat[1]  did that, and got the same error07:17
Madpilotbert__, pastebin! - but it looks like you've already got the desktop installed07:17
hupp3lit wont help07:17
zcat[1] hmmmm..07:17
intelikeyit's   !borked    but i'm not rewriting that command.07:17
LadyVixWarbo: under Multimedia i have a selection07:17
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: now what?07:17
Madpilotbert__, in Ubuntu, do you have a graphical desktop, or just the command line?07:17
WarboDammit, no alsa-setup thingy like Debian07:17
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eneriedum, so working in that way is not recommended07:17
eneriedso if use debian dvds was a not good idea, where we can get universe or multiverse for offline use?07:17
gpdmy nvidia kernel verison is busted in dapper - is this known?07:18
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: wait I think I can do this a cool way07:18
bert__Madpilot: Graphical, I assume..(Mind ye', first day ever on Linux..speak Lamens) :)07:18
tritium_Warbo: it was buggy, and not maintained07:18
LadyVixWarbo: I tried Debian first... the night before last... but i kept getting Xwindow could not start07:18
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)07:18
eneriedwe found some at cargol.net, but there're not amd64 or mac packages :(07:18
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Warbotritium_: Yeah, but I don;t understand alsactrl07:18
hupp3lintelikey: it is already mounted in media/hda107:18
LadyVixand it went to command promt...07:18
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nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: that would be pretty sweet if that command worked, which it looks like it will07:18
intelikeygpd not by those that claim that dapper is "rock solid"07:18
Madpilotbert__, do you have a brown desktop, and pretty stuff, or just a little text prompt?07:18
hupp3lwhy cant i access it though, i know i need to be as root07:18
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WarboLadyVix: I forgot Multimedia Selector is in Breezy actually! (I spent a while testing my webcam in Dapper, worked straight away in Ekiga)07:19
cowlikkargggg07:19
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: replace uname with my username?07:19
bert__madpilot: I already changed the background of the desktop, but it was a cool lookin' blue one at first, if that helps.07:19
gpdintelikey: nvidia driver was fine until yesterday - now i get version conflict  - i suppose it will be fixed soon :)07:19
hupp3lhupp3l@huplinux:~/Desktop$ sudo cd /media/hda1/07:19
hupp3lsudo: cd: command not found07:19
bert__Madpilot: I updated to dapper today07:19
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: no don't replace anything07:19
Madpilotbert__, if it was blue, you're probably running Kubuntu, yes?07:19
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)07:19
Phlostenxfce?07:19
LadyVixWarbo: eh? only the first sentence did i understand there...07:19
intelikeyhupp3l gksudo nautilus       and browse there.07:19
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: put that exactly07:19
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WarboLadyVix: OK, you will get some options in Multimedia, but they all point to ALSA (eventually) and ALSA ain't working07:19
paloymewhat could be missing from my firefox? i cant seem to find any plug ins that could help me browse in this site... www.eriworld.net, then go to "student logins"07:19
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: neato07:19
bert__Madpilot: I don't think so??... when it loads, it says Ubuntu..07:20
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: its going07:20
LadyVixWarbo: exactly07:20
gpmwhen's dapper coming out (or planned to come out)?07:20
Phlosten1st june07:20
hupp3lhuh gksudo nautilus????07:20
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intelikeygpd yeah i hope,  i was taking a poke at another guy with the "rock solid"  comment.07:20
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: good07:20
Madpilotbert__, I think we're both confused... :P what exactly are you trying to do?07:20
eneriedDapper have the code of ubuntu 6.06 i think on june07:20
WarboLadyVix: Doesn't matter (The Multimedia Selector is not in Dapper Drake version of Ubuntu which I use at home)07:20
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: tell me when its done07:20
LadyVixWarbo: Several months ago I installed Ubuntu and sound worked.... but it doesnt now...07:20
chiwawa_42why the hell did I get a ban on #ubuntu+1?07:20
bert__Madpilot: Actually it was Gold, As you said up there.07:20
majdHi, i find that java uses a rediculous amount of memory...is this just my computer/java/or my installation?07:20
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cowlikkis there GUI program to access network07:20
WarboLadyVix: Same version?07:20
chiwawa_42could anyone check and remove the ban plz?07:20
nickgarveychiwawa_42: probably because you did something stupid..07:20
gpdintelikey: worked it out... i am booted into an old kernel due to /boot being on my Breezy partition and having to update manually :)07:21
WarboLadyVix: Did you have the Phillips card plugged in?07:21
chiwawa_42nickgarvey, certainly not07:21
Madpilotchiwawa_42, ban on who, for what?07:21
bert__Madpilot: Yes, I am lost, I am trying to get Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, on my computer, But it's mostly for Windows, well I found a Linux version, downloaded it, it was a .RUN, File... so I installed it, but it failed the install..07:21
LadyVixWarbo: no...its one i downloaded and burned to a cd it wasnt Hoary Hedgehog... was the one after it07:21
chiwawa_42Madpilot, ban on me, no reason at all07:21
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Toma-bert__: how did it fail?07:21
Madpilotbert__, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory07:21
bert__Madpilot: so now I am searching for a Debian based Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, or at LEAST, a game related to FPS of that sort, taht will work on my Nixbox07:21
WarboLadyVix: Well that might be the problem. Do you mind upgrading?07:21
hupp3l<intelikey> hupp3l gksudo nautilus       and browse there.07:21
LadyVixWarbo: of course the philips card is plugged  in.... the speakers are plugged into the MB...07:21
hupp3lwhat is that?07:21
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Madpilotchiwawa_42, here? unlikely to be "for no reason at all"...07:21
mimmhi, is there some way to get a kblayout switch key to the toolbar in fluxbox?07:21
chiwawa_42Madpilot, on #ubuntu+107:22
eneriedthen... nobody knows where to find universe or multiverse for offline use? maybe jigdo, torrent, DVD iso or something...07:22
LadyVixWarbo: I'm not sure I have the patience to download again... how long that take?07:22
WarboLadyVix: I meant WERE they plugged in BEFORE (so AC 97 was used instead)07:22
Phlostenchiwawa_42, the ban probably isnt on your specifically, might be on a hostname that resembles yours?07:22
chiwawa_42Madpilot, my last chat there was about network manager07:22
paloymewhat do i use to open a .bin file?07:22
ubuntu_hello07:22
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: done07:22
nickgarveyeneried: you want to download the entire repositories?07:22
Madpilotchiwawa_42, sorry, I don't have ops for #ubuntu+1, afaik...07:22
chiwawa_42Phlosten, i hope so, but it's still anoying07:22
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: make && make install07:22
intelikeypaloyme sh07:22
ubuntu_alguienhaba es apol07:22
LadyVixWarbo: no... had no other card at the time ... that was the only reason onboard was enabled anyway07:22
intelikeypaloyme sh file.bin07:22
eneriednickgarvey, yes, we want to have them for offline use07:22
WarboLadyVix: If you have simple install not long at all. Go in terminal as root (or even better use sudo) and do nano /etc/apt/sources.list07:22
paloymethanks07:22
chiwawa_42Phlosten, i'm looking forward to give some feedbaclk about the new artwork on dapper07:23
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: make: command not found07:23
paloymedo you know any shortcut keys to open terminal?07:23
Madpilotchiwawa_42, actually, I do have ops there - just a minute07:23
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: bah ok07:23
LadyVixlol how do I get from root to user and i've never used Sudo so i dont know how07:23
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: apt-get install build-essential07:23
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chiwawa_42Madpilot, thanks07:23
ubuntu_alguien habla espaol07:23
nickgarvey!es07:23
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:23
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bert__Madpilot: Without hesitation, You just solved my problem, it failed at the libgtkl.2 and now I can get that and try it again.07:23
eneriedubuntu_, try joining to #ubuntu-es chanel, and... yo hablo espaol :)07:23
intelikeypaloyme that is wm specific and can be altered   so, no.07:23
kahaHoly carp, I just figured out that Rhythmbox is *excellent*.07:23
WarboLadyVix: If you are root then use that. Type "nano /etc/apt/sources.list"07:23
bur[n] erto all you comcast users out there, are you noticing crazy speed issues and connectivity problems?07:24
Warbokaha: Haven't tried it for a while. Can it match Amarok yet?07:24
bur[n] eramarok > all... still07:24
Warbobur[n] er: lol07:24
LadyVixWarbo: now what?07:24
kahaWarbo: dunno, haven't tried Amarok in quite awhile.07:24
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Madpilotchiwawa_42, I can't see any ban in place at #ubuntu+1 that would keep you out - try again07:25
eneriednickgarvey: do you know where to download or get the entire repositories?07:25
WarboLadyVix: Look for anything which says "hoary" and replace with "breezy"07:25
chiwawa_42Madpilot, * Impossible de rejoindre #ubuntu+1 (Vous tes banni).07:25
nickgarveyeneried: that's a lot of stuff... I'd try the forums...07:25
paloymeintelikey: whats wm?07:25
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King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: done07:25
Warbopaloyme: window manager (metacity in GNOME)07:25
bur[n] erwm == window manager... for example... metacity, kwin, xfwm, fluxbox, etc.07:25
intelikeypaloyme your wm (window manager) is probably gnome07:26
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: make uninstall07:26
chiwawa_42Madpilot, anything on abo.wanadoo.fr ?07:26
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intelikeyor metacity    more specifically07:26
chiwawa_42Madpilot, many lusers on this ISP...07:26
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Madpilotchiwawa_42, nope, not on +107:26
nickgarveycan you string commands, like "command && command2 && command3"? or will it only work with 2?07:26
WarboLadyVix: If you are very adventurous (and you want firefox 1.5) then you MAY want to go for Dapper Drake. It seems stable, but still isn't finalised. Would save two upgrades07:26
chiwawa_42Madpilot, well, i still can't join anyhow07:26
intelikeybur[n] er   :p07:26
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nickgarveyWarbo: hoary to dapper isn't support I don't think07:27
Madpilotnickgarvey, you can go at least three with && - I've never tried deeper, but I suspect you could keep going...07:27
eneriedwe had the breezy universe and multiverse, because we're about to sell some computers with ubuntu installed, Now, we want to be ready for dapper :D07:27
Warbonickgarvey: OK, thanks07:27
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: not all installed files are removed, run uninstall as many times as necessary until no removing messages appear...07:27
LadyVixWarbo: ok... how long of a download tho...07:27
bert__Madpilot: Ok, Thank you for your help, I think I figured it out, I'md ownloading it from that website there, and I installed the package already, and that's where it stopped last time, so we will see what happens :)07:27
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: no you are good07:27
bert__Madpilot: I will update you, as it happens.07:27
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: make && make install07:27
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: ok07:27
chiwawa_42Madpilot, thanks for trying anyway, i hope it'll be dropped soon07:27
WarboLadyVix: On 1Mb broadband maybe 1/2 hour? I'm not sure. Porbably less07:27
tritiumchiwawa_42: there are no bans set that would prevent you from joining07:27
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Madpilotchiwawa_42, yeah, the banlist for +1 is very short, and there's nothing I can see that would keep you out07:27
majdwhat's Xorg?07:27
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: error 207:28
WarboLadyVix: Once you have changed them press ctrl-x then "y" for yes and enter for filename07:28
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: damn paste it in the pastebin07:28
intelikeyhttp://X.org07:28
LadyVixso change everything that i woulda have changed to breezy to Dapper Drake?07:28
King-of-no-pantscant07:28
chiwawa_42tritium, Madpilot who's the main OP on ubuntu+1?07:28
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: im on a different comp07:28
FlannelKingeneried: you can go through the process of mirroring, and then you'll have them locally, whether or not you mirror publically.07:28
WarboLadyVix: apparently not. Just go with breezy07:28
LadyVix*shrugs* okies07:28
HobbseeMadpilot: isnt there a way to override bans?07:28
nickgarveyLadyVix: I suggest you go to breezy then go to dapper07:28
Warbonickgarvey: Yes07:29
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nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: I don't understand07:29
MadpilotHobbsee, no idea - but like I said, the banlist at +1 is very short - only six or seven entries07:29
chiwawa_42Hobbsee, there is no legal (in the netiquette sense) way to do so07:29
eneriedmirroring, ummm, it sounds good :)07:29
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tritiumchiwawa_42: there are a few of us07:29
King-Of-Pantsalright07:29
HobbseeMadpilot: well that's what i thought07:29
King-Of-Pantsnickgarvey: where is the pastebin?07:29
enerieddo you know where is the mirroring process described?07:29
Madpilot!pastebin07:29
kahaLadyVix: it's worth it. Dapper rocks.07:29
ubotupastebin is, like, totally, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126907:29
beruicSometimes when I boot, my harddisk is checked for errors. Is there a way to see the log for this or to force it to do it again?07:30
chiwawa_42tritium, i'll try again when I'll move this afternoon, we have another ISP in our secondary office ;)07:30
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padre_sclhola07:30
nickgarveyberuic: man fsck07:30
LadyVixkaha: maybe ...07:30
nickgarvey!es07:30
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:30
blindxanyone in here by the name of Luis Otavio?07:30
LadyVixWarbo: i've changed the word... now what?07:30
beruicnickgarvey: thx :)07:30
intelikeyQ: upgrading  can you skip a version ?   i.e. 5.4 to 6.6 ?07:30
chiwawa_42blindx, avoid real names on IRC ;)07:30
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nickgarveyintelikey: someone smarter than me said no07:31
WarboLadyVix: OK, ctrl-x will exit. Press y to save changes and enter to keep filename07:31
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_jasonintelikey: safer not to07:31
noaXesscan somebody check my xorg.conf http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/670751 , i want install dapper drake 6 fl6 on my asus notebook w1v, x starts but the monitor doesn't come up07:31
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nickgarveyintelikey: I don't remember who, but someone that was smart said it heh07:31
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intelikey:)07:31
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bert__Madpilot: So far, So good, 17% Downloaded.07:31
blindxI'm having troubles installing Bundle::Xmms ... can someone help me out? ( http://pastebin.com/670707 )07:31
Madpilotbert__, it's a massive download, but a cool game07:31
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King-Of-Pantspasted07:31
bert__Madpilot: Got to love having a 200Kbps/Second Download Speed.. :)07:32
FlannelKingeneried: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarlGoetz/DebmirrorHowto describes it a little07:32
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FlannelKing!mirror07:32
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: its binned07:32
ubotumirror is, like, repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive07:32
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nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: link me07:32
bert__Madpilot: Very much indeed, I usually play it among all the other 15 Games I own, on Windows, But I love Linux more, so I wanted at least 1 awesome game to play on here.. and I knew it was possible, know of any other FPS's for Linux.. that I could get?07:32
intelikeywell i think i may try it.   i have this box so tweeked out,  and i haven't reloaded in.... crap it's been over a week now..... i need to reformat, i might forget how.07:32
King-Of-Pantshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1258307:32
paloymehow can i view internet explorer specific websites with firefox?07:32
FlannelKingeneried: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive there you go ;)07:32
Madpilotbert__, Americas Army07:32
LadyVixWarbo: how do I start the download now?07:32
Warbopaloyme: Complain to webmasters07:32
FlannelKingpaloyme: get the user agent switcher extension07:33
Madpilotbert__, the ID FPSs run on Linux too07:33
eneriedFlannelKing, thanks a lot07:33
eneried;)07:33
WarboLadyVix: "apt-get update" then "apt-get dist-upgrade"07:33
bert__Madpilot: I heard that wasn't that great of a game, you have any recommendations from experience?07:33
WarboLadyVix: Then wait07:33
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: get it?07:33
paloymeflannelking thats the exact name? "user agent switcher"?07:33
FlannelKingpaloyme: believe so07:33
intelikeyWarbo both as root of course07:33
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: yes, let me look into it07:33
eneriedi've to go now, too late for me to stay asleep :)07:33
Madpilotbert__, Americas Army? Haven't ever tried it; the screenshots look nice, but that's all I know...07:33
eneriedthanks guys07:33
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey:  k07:33
eneriedbye07:33
bert__Madpilot: Hmm, Ok, I might check it out, if I get interested and bored of WolfET, which is doubted, I own.. :)07:34
Warbointelikey: For some reason Terminal asked for password (is this from Hoary, I never used it)07:34
LadyVixWarbo: Updating....07:34
noaXessorg07:34
noaXess!xorg07:34
ubotuhmm... xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html07:34
bert__Madpilot: Thanks for your help I will discontnue bothering you, Until I have another problem.. ;), unexpected_expectation@hotmail.com if you would like to talk otherwise, Thanks again.07:34
WarboLadyVix: Well, because it isn't windows you can still do what you want while it's going07:34
sneexto get onto the deve mirror all I need to change is breezy to dapper ?07:34
intelikeyWarbo you lost me there ?    is what form hoary ?07:35
padre_sclhow i can configuate evolution to recive hotmail07:35
kahaWarbo: careful, that little factoid freaks ppl out.07:35
LadyVixWarbo: its 41ish minutes...07:35
Warbointelikey: Her (I'm assuming) terminal asked for password (gksudo), and became root. Is this because it is hoary?07:35
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: could you paste bin the following?  "more /proc/version" and "gcc --version"07:36
intelikeyWarbo no.  gksudo will ask for the user passwd07:36
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Warbokaha: Well, I wouldn't recommend Quake4. (While it's downloading maybe, but not installing. Too slow)07:36
LadyVixIntelikey: I figured out what happened there for the root terminal thing... thats what i clicked... which is why it asked me for password07:36
intelikeyWarbo ^ there you go.07:36
LadyVixWas accident they right next to each other on menu07:37
Warbointelikey: But will a default Hoary install ask for password when you click on terminal? (or is there a Root Terminal option in menu?)07:37
WarboAh, thought so07:37
kahaWarbo: I usually do mahjongg07:37
LadyVixWarbo: *shrugs*07:37
intelikeyno  not  terminal....   it will for  root terminal07:37
King-Of-Pantsnickgarvey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1258507:37
Warbokaha: Freecell (I prefer kpat)07:37
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noaXess!aticonfig07:38
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noaXess07:38
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LadyVixWarbo: how do i change GUI? this is just curiosity talking...07:39
intelikeywell really it don't make any sense for me to upgrade though....   every thing works correctly here.07:39
FlannelKingLadyVix: like, installing KDE instead of gnome?07:39
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: that's why.. and that's not good07:39
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King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: poo07:39
WarboLadyVix: To change theme go in Preferences. To use a completely different environment get KDE07:39
LadyVixFlannelKing: yes i saw pictures of KDE... looks more like the interface i'm used to07:39
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: what did I do?07:39
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: not you..07:40
paloymecan totem play wmv?07:40
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: what happened?07:40
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LadyVixWarbo: that requires loging out then back in right?07:40
WarboLadyVix: KDE can have a few cool effects, but very different to GNOME which I prefer07:40
WarboLadyVix: Yes07:40
nickgarveyKing-Of-Pants: "apt-get install linux-source$(uname -r)"07:40
intelikeyLadyVix that would be   sudo apt-get install kdebase      or   kubuntu-desktop if you want all the kde apps07:40
LadyVixWarbo: would that interfere with the download?07:40
WarboLadyVix: Although you could log in twice (keep your GNOME and open a KDE)07:40
noaXessin https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-42bafbcee7a10ed50f2d9016555557b9874be252 there is the aticonfig tool.. but where to get this?07:41
WarboLadyVix: Don't Log Out07:41
paloymecan totem play wmv files?07:41
LadyVixWarbo: i'm confused again...07:41
WarboLadyVix: Also, you are using apt to download the updates. You should also use apt to get kde, and only 1 can be run at a time (to prevent conflicting situations)07:41
Warbopaloyme: If they are unencrypted07:41
Warbopaloyme: And WMV9 or lower07:42
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King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: do i need to download a more up to date release of ubuntu, reinstall, and try again?07:42
chiwawa_42christel, here?07:42
LadyVixnickgarvey: sorry07:42
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: do what I said07:42
nickgarveyKing-Of-Pants: "apt-get install linux-source$(uname -r)"07:42
intelikey!tell paloyme about codecs07:42
King-of-no-pantsoh, i didnt see that one07:42
SDok can anyone please help me with connecting to a smb share from the commandline? I've followed the instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently07:43
LadyVixWarbo: okies07:43
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SD... and i get this error: 23662: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)07:43
SDSMB connection failed07:43
SD...with $sudo mount -a07:43
WarboLadyVix: Remember: Do everything with apt (Synaptic in Sys>Admin is a front-end to apt)07:43
paloyme!easysource07:43
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:43
SDi can connect successfully with Gnome07:43
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LadyVixWarbo: how would someone install a game? the game i usually play in windows has a linux client07:44
WarboLadyVix: You are on about NWN right?07:44
mrkoje_hello07:44
FlannelKingLadyVix: which game?07:44
LadyVixWarbo: yes Neverwinter Nights07:44
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: E: couldnt find package linux source 2.6.12.10 - 38607:44
WarboLadyVix: Do you know if you need to buy the Linux one if you already have the Windows one?07:45
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.1207:45
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LadyVixWarbo: the linux one you download I can give you the URL if you want. but you need to purchase the Windows CD's for the CDkeys to install and to get the rest of the binaries07:45
FlannelKingWarbo: usually not.  or at least, from what Ive heard07:46
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: now were talkin!07:46
intelikeyi really hope i didn't need getty for anything special....07:47
intelikeytty1 [root#~]  rm /sbin/getty07:47
intelikeytty1 [root#~]  sync07:47
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King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: alright07:48
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King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: done with that07:48
WarboLadyVix: That's good of them. Anyway "Installing" usually just means copying stuff to the standard Linux directories (which, come to think of it, is the opposite of Windows which keeps them all together) so you should be able to get the binary and run it from where it is. To make a "command" for it you probably just have to make a link to it in /usr/bin07:48
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KassahIs there a way to get Title, Auther, Etc listed for Audio files in Nautalis?07:48
LadyVixWarbo: go here... this is my last URL....    www.nwvault.ign.com07:48
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: installed?07:48
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: yeah07:49
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: make && make install07:49
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: error 207:49
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: (twitch)07:49
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: sure we dont want uninstall?07:49
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: yes.. its not even getting to the second part07:49
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade07:50
WarboLadyVix: I've got Gish which says it should be run from inside it's own folder (ie. not split into the standard directories) and I've made a really simple script to run it (cd /directory; ./gish)07:50
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LadyVixick!07:50
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: wait no stop07:50
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: too late!07:50
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: apt-get install gcc-3.407:50
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: heh let it go then07:50
nickgarveynot a probelm07:50
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: well, it didnt take07:50
LadyVixi'm having Processor spikes07:50
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: it said permission denied07:50
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: did it work?07:50
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: dont think so07:51
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: run sudo in front07:51
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: I thought you were logged in as root07:51
LadyVixWarbo: i hate that... i keep thinking its going to lock up again07:51
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: now im goin on the gcc 3.407:51
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: im just sudo'ing everything07:52
WarboLadyVix: You want to be using 100% if possible (why waste your processor?) and actually installing takes loads of resources07:52
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: ok, let it go07:52
King-of-no-pantsok07:52
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: tell me when you got it07:52
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: i have gcc07:52
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: and im root07:52
LadyVixWarbo: i have the processor monitor on top and it looks like an EEG machine07:52
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King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: do the other one again?07:52
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nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: make && make install07:53
intelikeyWarbo hmmmm installing = cpu eater ?     i didn't know that.   i knew compiling was.07:53
cens0redthis is weird.07:53
MadpilotLadyNikon, Gnome is pretty good at not actually locking up, even when something is working hard07:53
WarboLadyVix: Leave it going, it's fine (but now you may get my previous comments that you don't want to berunning Quake 4 while it's installing)07:53
Kassahis there a linux app that I can change the tags on a file at the same time I can change their file name?07:53
LadyVixi only have a 1.? ghz processor...07:53
Warbointelikey: I've found that it is. the downloading is fine07:53
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seraphgood afternoon all07:53
LadyVixmy screen just went white you'll have to repeat that...07:54
nickgarveyha its 2 am here07:54
Warbo(No, I never use Gentoo if that's what you're going to say)07:54
nickgarveynot afternoon for me ;)07:54
seraphI just upgraded my fresh install of breezy badger07:54
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: same here07:54
seraphand now it won't boot07:54
seraphno matter what kernel I use, I get an error after the pre-mount script07:54
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: is it working?07:54
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: yeah07:54
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: good07:54
seraphat the top-local or local-top (I forget which)07:54
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seraphI get a circular dependency07:54
LadyVixarg.. i'm reloading Xchat07:54
seraphthen the kernel SEGFAULTS07:54
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seraphanyone know how to fix this?07:54
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seraphI was thinking of removing the new kernel and installing a slightly older one07:55
lgcHello: Can anyone help me? My keyboard doesn't work and I can't login to Breezy (I just made the upgrade)!07:55
LadyVixPardon but thats getting a Hair annoying07:55
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nickgarveywhat is LadyVix?07:55
cens0redcan't figure out why my linux system is still working. I have a linux system, with lots of critical stuff compiled for a celeron 1.1Ghz, on a p3 board. But I've just upgraded mainboard + CPU + RAM + Ethernet card and everything still works.07:56
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: done?07:56
da3rX|Worklol07:56
nickgarveycens0red: lucky..07:56
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: not yet, this is a 400 mhz processor...07:56
da3rX|Workisnt it good that its working lol07:56
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romulohello, what is the default kernel shipped in dapper flight6?07:56
Warbolgc: Can you get into a terminal (maybe rebooting into recover) and reconfiguringit there?07:56
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: oh haha ok, mine was done almost instantly so I wasn't sure how long yours would take07:56
da3rX|Workif its working, why bother :p07:56
LadyVixmy screen goes completely white... if i pass my mouse over the screen hyperlinks appear... but then all text dissapears then i close the client and restart it07:56
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: you are doing it, too?07:56
CNAPromulo: Linux client 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Sat Mar 11 16:13:17 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux07:56
WarboLadyVix: You mean XChat?07:57
LadyVixyes07:57
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: alright, its done07:57
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: nope, did it Monday though, which is why I am such an expert ;)07:57
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: cool07:57
WarboLadyVix: What did I tell you about XChat...07:57
romuloCNAP, hmm 2.6.12? thats old.07:57
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: cd to the directory with your driver07:57
intelikeyKing-Of-Pants quit bragging about your cup....   mine's 100 mhz07:57
CNAPromulo, that's the build...07:57
lgcWarbo: I can login to a tty, but as soon as I get into the graphical session I lose the keyboard functionality (except for spaces and arrows).07:57
LadyVixmy processor still looks like an eeg machine07:57
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romuloCNAP, its latest dapper?07:57
King-of-no-pantsalright07:57
CNAPflight 607:57
LadyVixand my screen just went white again...07:57
Warbolcg: Well to reconfigure X you type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"07:58
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: im there07:58
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: ndiswrapper -I drivername.inf #(replace driver name with your drivers name)07:58
romulohmm it should be shipping 2.6.16...no?07:58
emileromulo: flight 6 _with_ all updates gives me 2.6.15-2007:58
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: lowercase "i"07:58
romuloemile, hmm -_-07:58
romulothat sux07:58
WarboLadyVix: Leave it to install. Turn off the monitor if it's annoying (I have one on my desktop and one in my panel)07:58
LadyVix19 minutes ish07:58
romulothat means i will have to recompile my own kernel.07:59
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LadyVixrepeat that?07:59
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WarboLadyVix: I mean system monitor, but either would do07:59
romuloagain07:59
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: mrv8000 is already installed, looks like I beat you too it07:59
WarboLadyVix: Leave it to install07:59
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: ndiswrapper -e mrw8000 then07:59
lgcWarbo: Do you know what to tweak in this case?07:59
romuloim wondering why 2.6.16 is on debian-amd64 and not in ubuntu, since ubuntu updates fastly07:59
romulo=P07:59
LadyVix*shakes head* ok by then... i'm headed to bed its 1am07:59
Warbolgc: It would be the keyboard (well, duh) but I don't know what setup you have so I don't know what to give it08:00
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LadyVixWarbo: thanks for the help... I'll be back later today..../ tonight08:00
bert__Madpilot: You still there?08:00
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WarboLadyVix: If I'm gone for a while I'm cycling home08:00
CNAPromulo, you're right. it's almost a year old08:00
Madpilotbert__, kind of08:00
seraphwell08:00
LadyVixi didnt catch that it dissapeared before I could read it08:00
seraphso no one has any ideas?08:00
WarboLadyVix: I should be in here later, if not then I'm cycling home (maybe 45 mins)08:01
bert__Madpilot: Ok, Great, It installed fine, THanks!!... But the problem now, is I need to do this.. for the maps... "sudo chown -R user:user ~/.etwolf/ and it says, No such file or directory...(yes I put in my User and User Group)08:01
romuloCNAP, the module for my network card is only present in 2.6.1608:01
romuloso i will have to compile it by hand like i said.08:01
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CNAPromulo, no apt-get upgrade or anything like that huh?08:01
LadyVixif i cant sleep i'll probably be back 6-8am CST08:01
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: and "modprobe -r mrw8000" and also "rmmod ndiswrapper"08:01
romuloCNAP, well not using dapper yet.08:01
Madpilotbert__, you might have to run ET once, to get that directory created08:02
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romuloCNAP, im on debian-amd64 and using 2.6.16 so its here, on 2.6.15 it wasnt working.08:02
Madpilotbert__, but it's been a while since I installed ET...08:02
bert__Madpilot: Alright, I will try that.. Thanks.08:02
luisitoI have a friend that is new to linux, I'm new too but I know much more things than him and know much more how the system works. I tell him not to use Automatix because it isn't recommended, it isn't good for the system. But when he ask me why I don't know how to convince him? What should I say to him to understand?08:02
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: couldnt copy mrv8000.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 14308:02
Warboromulo: Sure it would not be easier to only recompile the driver? (or am I in way over my head?)08:02
Madpilotbert__, just run it, then quit, you won't be able to do much until you complete that last set of setup08:02
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: you didn't do the command I said too..08:02
romuloWarbo, i dont know...seens i couldnt get it compiled with headers08:02
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: i thought i did08:02
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romulodidnt tried with source + working kernel.08:02
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: rmmod ndiswrapper08:02
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: then modprobe -r (drivername without the .inf)08:03
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lgcMadpilot, are you familiar with resuscitating dead keyboards?08:03
King-of-no-pantsmodule ndiswrapper does not exist in /proc/modules08:03
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: then ndiswrapper -e (drivername witout the inf)08:03
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: good, next08:03
Warboluisito: Make up something complicated, tell him it will break it and by the time he's learnt that you were making it up he knows enough about Linux to not install it :)08:03
bert__Madpilot: Ok, Now I have to figure out how the Hell to run it... :|08:03
Seveas@reload exploitban08:03
CNAPwhat happens when i do an apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15 ?08:03
romulohmm thinking of importing 2.6.16 deb from debian08:03
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: ok, I removed the driver08:03
romulomight be agood idea08:04
Madpilotbert__, it should be at Applications->Other->ET in Gnome's terminals08:04
Warboromulo: might not...08:04
nickgarveyCNAP: I bet it fails?08:04
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: ok now08:04
bert__Madpilot: I don't have an "Other" category.08:04
romuloWarbo, hmm why not08:04
CNAPnickgarvey: what fails?08:04
nickgarveysudo ndiswrapper -i (driver.inf)08:04
Warboromulo: Dunno, just might not08:04
luisitoWarbo, the thing is, he have it installed.08:04
nickgarveyCNAP: you trying to apt-get, its not in the repos08:04
Madpilotbert__, then in the termial, just type 'et' w/o the quotes08:04
romuloWarbo, i have imported ubuntu kernels on debian before08:04
romuloand it worked like a charm08:04
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King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: couldnt copy mrv8000.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 14308:04
bert__Madpilot: Did that.. doesn't do anything but say no such directory or something08:04
CNAPnickgarvey: what's not in repos? linux-source-2.6.15 ?08:05
bert__Madpilot: Command not found, rather.08:05
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: should I be root@ubuntu?08:05
Warboluisito: I think the damage has been done. Doesn't it change stuff irreversibly (for apt I mean, not manually)08:05
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OrTigaShi08:05
Madpilotbert__, try 'enemy-territory' to start it08:05
nickgarveyCNAP: yeah, I am pretty sure it sn't08:05
OrTigaShows the channel08:05
OrTigaScan i ask08:05
bert__Madpilot: Command not found.08:05
Madpilotbert__, hmm, that should work - it's what works for me08:05
CNAPnickgarvey, no it's there. i just downloaded it. i wanted to know what's going to happen once i do it. will it upgrade my kernel?08:06
bert__Madpilot: Hmm..08:06
intelikeyOrTigaS   fast and active.08:06
MadpilotKing-of-no-pants, use sudo before commands, no need for root08:06
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OrTigaShow can i disable the "PadLock" on start and after the Login?08:06
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: i was doing that for a while, then just su'd myself...08:06
bert__Madpilot: Woops...I suppose it might help to actually install the game instead of just download it and leave it?08:06
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: does it matter?08:06
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: ok do it then08:06
naliothlgc: did the 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" not work?08:06
romulocan i use a amd64 kernel to run with 32bits binaries?08:07
Madpilotbert__, um... yeah... :P08:07
nickgarveyCNAP: oh it is? I don't see it.. oh well, and no I doubt it, thats only the sources08:07
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: couldnt copy mrv8000.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 14308:07
Warboromulo: OK, so Debian wasn't dodgy enough?08:07
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: as long as it doesn't say that08:07
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: go into a root shell instead08:07
Madpilotbert__, "sudo chmod +x et-linux-2.60.x86.run" first08:07
CNAPnickgarvey, yeah you're right it does nothing but download the source08:07
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CNAPnickgarvey, waste of 44mb08:07
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: what do you mean by that?08:07
luisitoWarbo, I have seen really weird thing like, when choosing the keyboard language the USA works like Latinamerican and vice-versa.08:07
bert__Madpilot: Woops.. Kinda late :/08:07
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romuloWarbo, yeah, that time i was missing stuff that was on ubuntu08:08
romulolike now08:08
nickgarveyintelikey: mm but I had that happen too, sudo didn't do I needed a root shell it seemed08:08
Madpilotintelikey, "no need to go to root@boxname" is what I meant... :P08:08
OrTigaShow can i disable the "PadLock" on Start-Up and after the Login?08:08
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: su08:08
naliothnickgarvey: why?08:08
Warboluisito: What I was saying was that if you want to put it back to normal you have to change it back yourself, getting rid of Automatix won't do it08:08
nickgarveynalioth: good question08:08
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: ok08:08
naliothKing-of-no-pants: dont do it08:08
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: too late08:08
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: i did that a while ago08:08
Warboluisito: Anyway, if you use a USA keyboard the " and @ are in the wrong place :)08:08
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: i dont usually do it08:09
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: i usually sudo08:09
Madpilotbert__, well, if it's installing, then you didn't need the command I gave you, anyway08:09
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: but right now im su'd08:09
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: oh, thats the problem then, get out of that and use sudo08:09
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bert__Madpilot: It's not, Same error I got last time.. Hmm08:09
lgcnalioth: sorry for the delay. I didn't know that. Let me see...08:09
nickgarveyI remembered one worked and one didn't08:09
CNAPromulo, how are you recompiling it? i've never actually have successfully recompiled a kernel08:09
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: do i have to close and reopen terminal?08:09
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bert__Madpilot: Nevermind, There it goes.08:09
intelikeyWarbo qwerty  ?08:09
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: no just type exit08:09
naliothKing-of-no-pants: su YOUR_USER_NAME08:09
romuloCNAP, ive recompiled it many times, doing make-kpkg --revision=something.0.1 kernel-image or linux-image08:10
nickgarveythat works too08:10
OrTigaSwhere can change/put IP address if i connect to other machine with own IP add?08:10
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: couldnt copy mrv8000.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 14308:10
naliothKing-of-no-pants: is the file complete and not damaged?08:11
Warbointelikey: Sorry, just that so many LiveCDs use US keyboard I have got to know it's layout (on my UK keyboard). The most annoying is terminals, but next annoying is email"domain.com (@ and " are swapped)08:11
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: that was with sudo and not su?08:11
romuloOrTigaS, ip for your local interfaces?08:11
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: sudo08:11
naliothKing-of-no-pants: sudo won't work if the file integrity is broken08:11
romuloOrTigaS, sudo ifconfig ethX ip08:11
OrTigaSromulo yes08:11
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: damn, I had the same problem and I thought thats how I fixed it but I don't remember...08:11
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: it should be a good file, i downloaded it today08:11
luisitoWarbo, yeah, but his keyboard is spanish, when he uses the latinamerican layout it uses the USA layout and when he uses the USA layout then the Latinamerican is the layout, it is a really weird thing.08:11
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nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: do you have your driver off your windows installation maybe?08:12
OrTigaSlike if i have machine that has IP and i want it to connect thru internet or by direct connect by LAN cable08:12
Warboluisito: Is this graphically (KDE or GNOME) or Xorg itself, or even terminals?08:12
bert__Madpilot: Next Error:... You are using software Mesa (no hardware acceleration)!08:12
bert__ Driver DLL used: libGL.so.108:12
bert__ If this is intentional, add08:12
bert__       "+set r_allowSoftwareGL 1"08:12
bert__ to the command line when starting the game.08:12
nickgarvey!tell bert__ about paste08:12
bert__Sorry for the flood!08:12
nickgarvey:)08:12
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Warbobert: sounds like you need binary driver08:12
bert__Unintentional.08:12
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: no...08:12
naliothbert__: please use a pastebin in the future08:12
bert__I will, My appologies.08:12
Madpilotbert__, no 3d drivers, it sounds like - ATI or Nvidia graphics card?08:12
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: i dont use that card in any of my windows machines,08:12
romuloOrTigaS, can u be more direct?08:12
bert__Madpilot: AT08:12
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: crap.. what is the name of your wireless card?08:12
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: i know thats the right driver08:12
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bert__Madpilot ATI*08:13
intelikey /etc/hosts   OrTigaS  ?    or /etc/network/interfaces  ?08:13
Madpilot!tell bert__ about ati08:13
bert__Madpilot: 9800 Pro to be Exact.08:13
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: re download it then08:13
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King-of-no-pantswill do08:13
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: or tell me where you got it so I can try08:13
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: or both heh08:13
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CNAPromulo: there's a .deb file for the kernel?08:13
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: www.airnetusa.com08:13
romuloCNAP, for the one im using on amd64 now, there is08:13
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King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: AWD15408:14
romuloso i copied it and tomorrow when installing dapper, will use it08:14
romulo:D08:14
OrTigaSromulo, like this we have a machine/box here that we access by Internet or by Direct Cable thru rj45 but that box has a IP add.. where can i change my IP to access that box?08:14
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: PCMCIA?08:14
Madpilotbert__, got the pm from the bot?08:14
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: pci08:14
CNAPromula, where'd you find it? www.debian.org i assume?08:14
bert__Madpilot: Yes, following instructions now.08:14
romuloOrTigaS, why you wanna change the ip to access the box? subnet?08:15
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OrTigaSin windows we do like "Networking--> Properties-->08:15
intelikeyromulo is that kernel compiled against the same glibc  as dapper ?08:15
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: bah worked fine for me08:15
romuloOrTigaS, to change your ip type sudo ifconfig ethX xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx where ethX is your interface08:15
nickgarveyInstalling net521108:15
romulointelikey, probably, no.08:15
romulooh wait08:15
romuloglibc, yes...probably08:15
romulo=P08:15
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: net5211         driver installed08:15
romulodapper is on 4?08:15
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: ?08:16
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OrTigaScan do it by not in Terminal, because probaly i'm not the one gonna use it, i just want to know so i can tell08:16
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: worked fine for me08:16
caonexI have installed successfully ubuntu before on my hp pavilion zv6000. However, I have performed about 4 clean installs and I am unable to get X going, any ideas?08:16
nickgarveycaonex: SAME AS ME!08:16
LTR2000how do i give myself permissions to my homefolder08:16
nickgarveycaonex: oh pick me pick me08:16
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: give me a minute08:16
romulocaonex, what sthe problem08:16
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luisitoWarbo, well, I tried graphically only, but considering that he doesn't mess around with the system, like installing weird programs and exploring the system trying to change things, then I thing the fault is because automatix.08:16
romuloOrTigaS, yes you can08:16
OrTigaSromulo where?08:16
romuloOrTigaS, Click gnome foot menu, administration->network08:16
nickgarveycaonex: edit xorg.conf, and under Devices, put Option    NoAccel08:16
intelikeyLTR2000 sudo chown name:name /home/name     where name is you.08:17
nickgarveycaonex: but run dapper, it works much better08:17
nickgarveycaonex: does your wireless card work?08:17
intelikeyLTR2000 sudo chown -R name:name /home/name     where name is you.08:17
caonexnickgarvey: I already did08:17
caonexnickgarvey yes I have08:17
intelikeyown your home...08:17
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intelikeyown your own home.08:17
nickgarveycaonex: your wireless works?08:17
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caonexromulo X is the problem08:17
Sp4rKyhi08:17
caonexnickgarvey: yes it does08:17
nickgarveycaonex: ?! I couldn't get it working08:17
romulocaonex, and what output it gives to you?08:17
romulowhat videocard08:17
caonexndiswrapper does the trick, nickgarvey08:17
bert__My wireless works :D08:17
bert__Wireless internet :P08:17
romuloi hate ndis08:18
romuloit doesnt work here08:18
romulo=P08:18
caonexromulo: ati 200 Xpress08:18
nickgarveycaonex: yeah.. I tried, never got it working under dapper, I am running suse 10.0 right now08:18
romuloneither bcm08:18
romulocaonex, so whats the output?08:18
romulocaonex, installed ati proprietary drivers?08:18
nickgarveycaonex: you are running dapper?08:18
romulomy card is the one broken on bcm43xx =(08:18
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caonexnickgarvey, romulo: yeah, using normal installation for suse does the trick....but I want ubuntu....suse is way too slow08:18
LTR2000what program can i use to extract a rar file08:18
prgrmri can't change /etc/resolv.conf08:18
nickgarveycaonex: that was a yeah to dapper?08:18
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Warboluisito: Basically you set your locale (not entirely sure how to do this actually) for the whole system, including ctrl-alt-f1 terminals (if you don't know what that is then REMEMBER: ctrl-alt-f7) Then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will let you reconfigure Xorg language and finally KControl will let you reconfigure KDE, and System > Preferences > keyboard will do GNOME. Hope it helps08:18
nickgarvey!tell LTR2000 about rar08:19
intelikeyLTR2000 unrar ?08:19
caonexromulo: I have.....done both in the past....like I said I have gotten it to work before08:19
cquillenwhat encryption program does ubuntu use to encrypt the password?08:19
romulocaonex, well in my debian system i used to load X with radeon driver or vesa and just install from the current X.org08:19
caonexromulo: yeah.....I tried putting the vesa and radeon as driver but did not work08:19
caonexfor radeon I need xserver-xorg-radeon08:19
caonexor something like that08:19
nickgarveycaonex: dapper works beautifully...08:19
caonexromulo08:19
romuloluisito, to reconfigure your locale run sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales and sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf08:19
Sp4rKyhi all08:19
prgrmri can't edit /etc/resolv.conf, what can i do?08:19
caonexnickgarvey: what is dapper?08:19
romuloprgrmr, use sudo08:20
nickgarvey!tell caonex about dapper08:20
Warbocaonex: What is this radeon driver? Is it a free or proprietory one?08:20
romuloWarbo, free.08:20
caonexWarbo: propietary one08:20
Sp4rKyi've some issue with swsusp2 on 2.6.16.5 kernel , if someone could help me ...08:20
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romuloWarbo, the proprietary one is fglrx08:20
cafuego`radeon' is free, `fglrx' is proprietary.08:20
caonexWarbo: it has worked in the past not completly well, but has08:20
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King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: now its giving me errors while extracting08:20
romulocaonex, mine is workig very well(RAdeon x600)08:20
Warboromulo: I know, but I thought the free was ati (I'm using on my dad's new graphics card)08:20
nickgarveycaonex: its the next ubuntu version, try the 64 bit live cd, the wireless won't work but everything else works fine, no stupid boot codes while installing or anything08:20
caonexWarbo: I get no 3d accel because it odes not use the appropriate libraries OpenGL08:20
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nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: unzip (file.zip)08:21
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caonexromulo: yeah....the problem is with 200M08:21
romulocaonex, do ./ati-something --buildpkg Ubuntu/Version08:21
CNAPwhat's the switch to make dpkg verbose?08:21
caonexromulo: I have to make it use ram memory08:21
can0nAnyone know where I can get sound blaster live drivers for linux?08:21
caonexromulo: I did that08:21
romulocaonex, it will generate *.debs for your system.08:21
cquillendoes any one know the program used by ubuntu to encrypt the login password?08:21
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romulocaonex, and?08:21
romulocaonex, modprobe fglrx08:21
caonexromulo: I have been using ubuntu for a long time and debian as well.....I have done that and it wors08:21
Warbocaonex: So there is vesa<ati<fglrx. Where does radeon fit in?08:21
romulo*sudo modprobe fglrx08:21
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caonexbut.....romulo, not the way is supposed to08:22
caonexright now is not doing anything08:22
romulocaonex, yeah.08:22
romulocaonex, unfortunatly im still running debian08:22
romulo(till tomorrow)08:22
romuloso i cant say the proper way to do it.08:22
romulo=p08:22
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: now it wont download08:22
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nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: ?08:22
romulocaonex, and if the "proper" way dont work with me, ill go the default one08:22
stjepanhow to disable usplash?08:22
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: I dont know08:22
romulocause the default one are always more updated than the "proper"08:22
caonexromulo: what is the gnome version of debian?08:22
romulopackagin takes time08:22
caonexyou using stable, romulo?08:22
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: it just wont download, i click save to disk, and then it doesnt do shit08:23
romulocaonex, im using 2.14, developer here.08:23
romulounstable.08:23
Warbostjepan: Remove the bit "splash" in your /boot/grub/menu.lst08:23
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: language please08:23
romuloim one of the new gnome-panel maintainers08:23
caonexromulo: cool....that is weird to see a debian developer in here08:23
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: sorry08:23
prgrmrromulo, i used sudo, i think the file is in +i08:23
bert__Madpilot: Rebooting, Be Back in a Few if need be, Thanks again for your help.08:23
romuloso im using gnome CVS HEAD08:23
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stjepanWarbo: I want to use splashy instead of usplash08:23
romuloprgrmr, chmod it?08:23
Sp4rKyi've some issue with swsusp2 on 2.6.16.5 kernel , if someone could help me ...08:23
Warbostjepan: That is, on the "kenel" line, not GRUB's splash08:23
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: right click the link, copy link location to clip board08:23
nickgarveyopen terminal08:23
stjepan:(08:23
romulocaonex, its weird, cause im moving to ubuntu08:23
Sp4rKyswsusp2 works with text mode but not correctly  with fb mode08:23
Warbostjepan: I think that is pretty complex (but not as complex as boot-splash)08:23
romulotired of chroot's08:23
nickgarveywget "(right click paste)"08:23
romulo:D08:23
caonexromulo, nickgarvey: let me try configuring X again, otherwise trying debian or dapper08:23
Sp4rKydoes anyone could help me please08:24
nickgarvey:)08:24
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romuloSp4rKy, what u need08:24
lgcnalioth: /msg you're welcome, SS...08:24
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OrTigaSromulo thanks! it works!08:24
romulooh, and caonex , remember to disable radeon fb08:24
romuloOrTigaS, you welcome08:24
OrTigaShow can i disable the "PadLock" on Start-Up and after the Login?08:24
OrTigaSi always got wrong passwd because of that08:24
Sp4rKyromulo, i need help to make work swsusp2 with fb08:25
WarboOrTigaS: I don't get you...08:25
prgrmrromulo, chmod -i etc/resolv.conf ?08:25
intelikeynumlock ?08:25
Sp4rKyromulo, i've a 2.6.16.5 kernel correctly patched08:25
romuloSp4rKy, dont even know whats that, sorry08:25
Sp4rKyok08:25
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Sp4rKycrimsun, could you help me now :D08:25
caonexromulo, you got framebuffer going?08:25
intelikeyWarbo OrTigaS numlock ?08:25
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romuloprgrmr, sudo chmod 644 /etc/resolv.conf08:25
Warbointelikey: Maybe. Not on by default is it?08:25
OrTigaSPADLock08:25
romulocaonex, i dont use fb08:25
caonexnickgarvey....do you need the bios to use regular ram memory08:26
OrTigaSin my Laptop08:26
caonexromulo: can you do vga=0x317 without fb?08:26
cello_rasphelp, i can't ` rm *.* `..., i tells me 'invalid option.08:26
nickgarveycaonex: what do you mean?08:26
WarboOrTigaS: Do you mean typing in password for system things (gksudo)08:26
romulocaonex, no.08:26
romuloafaik08:26
caonexromulo: vga activates fb, right?08:26
romuloyes08:26
nickgarveycaonex: I didn't need to mess with anything for dapper to work08:26
romuloafaik too08:26
romulo=P08:26
intelikeyWarbo i've never really ran a default ubuntu i don't guess....  idk08:26
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caonexnickgarvey: are your running accelerated drivers?08:26
romulothe only thing i will want to get rid of my ubuntu is sudo08:26
romulo=P08:26
nickgarveycaonex: naw I gave up on my graphics card08:27
cens0redis there a way I can check my cpu temperature in linux?08:27
romulocaonex, ati's readme say to you not use the proprietary driver with framebuffers08:27
nickgarveycaonex: solitare for me08:27
Madpilotcens0red, yes08:27
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: now nothing will start08:27
cens0redassuming my board supports it?08:27
caonexromulo: me too, I got rid of it by doing.....sudo su........passwd08:27
romulocens0red, if you have sensors, yeah08:27
caonexand got root to work, romulo08:27
Madpilot!tell cens0red about sensors08:27
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: open office said there was an internal error, i cant get firefox back up08:27
caonexromulo: I cannot stand using sudo08:27
romulocens0red, try looking for sensors packages08:27
caonexromulo: I need my root user08:27
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: dude what the heck did you do?08:27
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: im not sure08:27
romulocaonex, same08:27
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: reboot!08:27
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: i think i will08:28
romulocens0red, apt-cache search sensor08:28
nickgarveythe old windows stand by, when in doubt, reboot08:28
romulocens0red, look for some sensor package and if your kernel and mb supports it08:28
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: that doesn't even rhyme08:28
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: not supposed too08:28
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intelikeyromulo i'm with ya,  give me a full root shell and let every thing else go to ...... well never mind.08:28
lgcnalioth: to be or not to be: (in the middle of the reconfig process) "deadkeys" or "nodeadkeys" for a Latin American (Mexico) keyboard?08:28
Warbonickgarvey: You'd love "The IT Crowd". Tech support guys who run a tape recorder that says "Have you tried turning it off and on.... Are you SURE it's plugged in?..." :)08:29
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cens0redromulo apt-get install lm-sensors ?08:29
romulointelikey, not with my router, firewall and iptables buddy ;)08:29
romulocens0red, i believe yes08:29
naliothlgc: none08:29
nickgarveyhaha08:29
OrTigaSWarbo, the KeyPAD lock always on08:29
caonexnickgarvey: do you see the graphical boot now?08:29
caonexyou have my laptop you said, nickgarvey?08:29
romulointelikey, and even my 16 mixed character+numbers password :D08:29
nickgarveycaonex: I do08:29
prgrmrromulo, how can i change it into +i again?08:29
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WarboOrTigaS: Sounds Laptop specific, I don't have a (working) laptop08:29
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cquillendoes any one know the program used by ubuntu to encrypt the login password which is found in shadow08:29
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OrTigaSafter i install the automatix and run.. the KEYPADLock always on08:30
caonexnickgarvey: so you see the graphical boot ?08:30
nickgarveyOrTigaS: WHY! WHY DID YOU DO IT!08:30
intelikeyromulo i'll go you one better,  there is no password on this system.   all accounts are locked.08:30
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OrTigaSWarbo yes it laptop08:30
lgcnalioth: does it mean I will generate a space with every accent I type?08:30
romuloprgrmr, dunno, maybe chmod +i08:30
nickgarveycaonex: yup08:30
OrTigaSnickgarvey i dont know08:30
romulointelikey, hehehe08:30
caonexnickgarvey: can you run glxgears, and tell me how fast it goes?08:30
MadpilotOrTigaS, yes, that's because automatix enabled the numlockx program08:30
naliothlgc: no seh keyboards mexicano08:30
caonexnickgarvey: any problems so far?08:30
nickgarveycaonex: eek I'm runnig suse remember08:30
OrTigaSMadpilot how can i disable it?08:30
MadpilotOrTigaS, not sure08:30
nickgarveycaonex: I'd put in a live cd but that wolud mean no internet08:30
romulocaonex, sorry by interrupt, glxgears here gives me 3000fps08:31
caonexnickgarvey: with its condition....testing?08:31
romulocaonex, and fgl_glxgears gives me 80008:31
MadpilotOrTigaS, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NumLock08:31
lgcnalioth: not that I want to make fun of your Spanish, but what do you mean?08:31
caonexromulo: what?08:31
caonexromulo: but then again you have a different card08:31
intelikeycquillen shadow  does that, afik08:31
caonexromulo: it works better for you08:31
OrTigaSi always to turn-off after booting and loging-in :(08:31
romulocaonex, yeah.08:31
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: whoops! I left the install cd in the drive, that freaked me out08:31
caonexromulo: you never had to enable the uma memory in the bios I bet08:31
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naliothlgc: disculpa, mi espaol es tex-mex08:31
romulocaonex, dont even know whats that08:31
nickgarveyOrTigaS: why did you run it.. why would you do that to your computer...08:31
prgrmrromulo, i get an error, chmod: invalid mode string: '+i'08:31
romuloprgrmr, so its not it08:32
romulo=P08:32
romulolet me search08:32
bert_Madpilot: did you get my PM?08:32
romulogoogling08:32
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caonexromulo: this ati cards come with the ability to use aditionally to its dedicated memory, ram memory08:32
Madpilotbert_, no08:32
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romulocaonex, didnt know that...anyway that bios option is not avaible for me =P08:32
caonexin order to get the propietary drivers to work, you need to activate that in the bios....which sucks because I only have 51208:32
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bert_Madpilot: Ok, Well, I tried all that, I rebooted, an' everything, and I got this error  You are using software Mesa (no hardware acceleration)!08:32
bert_, and I tried running it without it..08:32
Warbocaonex: ONLY?08:32
cquillenintelikey do you know how shadow encrypts it, which program is used?08:33
caonexromulo: see.....trust me this is aggrevating, but nickgarvey says it is working fine....08:33
nickgarveycaonex: oh cool, didn't know you could do that, I'll have to play around08:33
caonexWarbo: ?>08:33
bert_Madpilot: But it lagged so extremely bad, that It would be impossible to play, without it.08:33
nickgarveycaonex: use a dapper live boot cd08:33
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caonexnickgarvey: so what was the result of glxgears?08:33
Madpilotbert_, those ati drivers should work for a 9800, not sure what to suggest08:33
romulocaonex, well i didnt set up this here, its a gateway laptop08:33
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nickgarveycaonex: running suse!08:33
romulocaonex, 256mb of dedicated memory for card08:33
romulo1gb system08:33
bert_Madpilot: Hmm...I don't even know where to begin to get it to work...08:33
lgcnalioth: no prob. You're helping a lot here!08:33
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romuloargh i should be sleeping08:34
ahmeniIs there a way to install Ubuntu via an existing linux installation?08:34
nickgarveycaonex: but works fine on suse08:34
caonexnickgarvey: what version of firefox?08:34
nickgarveycaonex: 1.508:34
OrTigaSnickgarvey i thought it will update for better08:34
romulobut i have no dreams when chatting neither trying to freakly install ubuntu from a usb pendrive08:34
Warboahmeni: debootstrap08:34
Madpilotbert_, the ATI drivers should just work, not sure why you're having problems - go over the instructions again, maybe?08:34
Warboahmeni: maybe08:34
nickgarveycaonex: on dapper you mean?08:34
caonexnickgarvey: I thought you said you had dapper08:34
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caonexnickgarvey: yeah....on suse did not work as good08:34
nickgarveycaonex: I did, but I couldn't get wireless so I tried suse08:34
bert_Madpilot: I didn't miss a one, on the instructions on the first link you sent me, and I did all the commands needed to be done, and it said reboot so I rebooted, and still., nothing, I'll check again and see if I missed anything.08:35
caonexnickgarvey: suse does not have apt...and yast is sort of slow.....what do you get with glxgears in suse?08:35
intelikeycquillen crypt ?    i really don't.    but i think the shadow utils do all of it.08:35
caonexromulo: why don't use fb?08:35
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nickgarveycaonex: a blue, red, and green gear, spinning08:35
romulocaonex, it says that it conflicts with ati proprietary drivers08:35
caonexnickgarvey: yeah....what is the the terminal saying?08:35
Madpilotbert_, good luck - I'm signing off in a minute or so - just ask again here for more help08:35
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caonexromulo: that is true but suse installs it....very nice08:35
nickgarvey3000 frames in 5.0 seconds = 600.000 FPS08:36
romulocaonex, the fb?08:36
bert_Madpilot: ok, Thanks for the help, Take care.08:36
caonexromulo that is slow right ?08:36
romulocaonex, yes.08:36
nickgarvey:(08:36
romulocaonex, very slow08:36
caonexromulo: see....08:36
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nickgarveyI thought it was fine08:36
macfastLet me know how can i install bioperl on a ubundu system08:36
romulocaonex, my geforce 4 mx 400 used to show me 1000fps08:36
romuloand it was 64mb08:36
caonexromulo: nickgarvey this card has more potential.....08:36
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nickgarveycaonex: yeah true..08:36
caonexnickgarvey: that is why I need to put ubuntu or debian back on08:37
romulonickgarvey, please glxinfo08:37
romuloand check Direct Rendering08:37
caonexnickgarvey: look for Drivers08:37
caonexOPENGL08:37
caonexnickgarvey: it says libmesa08:37
romulolibmesa?08:37
caonexit should say fglrx, nickgarvey08:37
romulothen its not ati ;)08:37
OrTigaSso where can i edit to disable that PadLock(i think same as Numlock)08:37
nickgarveycaonex: not there, nothing on drivers08:37
caonexromulo: yeah.....it uses the wrong one....that is what I dislike about this card with propietary drivers08:37
nickgarveysays OPENGL though08:38
nickgarveyOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org08:38
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caonexromulo: see that......08:38
nickgarveyand then OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)08:38
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caonexromulo: it is using libmesa08:38
caonexand I created a diversion using apt and still did not work08:38
mikewho wants to remote into my computer and get my fglrx driver installed?08:38
romuloprgrmr, sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf08:38
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caonexromulo: I even used lddconfig to change libmesa to fglrx08:39
romulonickgarvey, your driver isnt working08:39
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nickgarveyromulo: :(08:39
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: couldnt copy mrv8000.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 14308:39
romulonickgarvey, you should install ati proprietary drivers08:39
OrTigaSwhere can i edit the sudoer?08:39
mikehaha08:39
nickgarveyromulo: yeah.. I should08:39
mikeit's impossible!08:39
naliothOrTigaS: in a terminal, "man visudo"08:39
mikei have tried days on end to get it to work08:39
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OrTigaSit wont accept psswd08:39
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: um.. not sure,, try the forums...08:39
caonexnickgarvey: the propietary ones do the same08:39
prgrmrromulo, 10X :)08:39
romulowell, heres how i do it: first i run it on X, then it install the kernel modules, then i run it ./ati-something --buildpkg Debian/experimental(what i have here) and install the *.debs08:39
naliothOrTigaS: be very careful or you will mess up your system08:40
firebird619I am trying to install WW2D on Ubuntu 5.10. It will not install successfully and I have pasted the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12588          There are two files I have to use, the WW2D.jar file and JOGL-Inst.jar. Could someone take a look at the output and help me? Thanks.08:40
caonexromulo: they propietary do the same08:40
romuloprgrmr, yw08:40
OrTigaSoh yea08:40
King-of-no-pantsnickgarvey: alright, thanks for the help, ill try this tomorrow. i need sleep08:40
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OrTigaSforgot that08:40
nickgarveyKing-of-no-pants: same ;)08:40
caonexnickgarvey: why not running dapper right now?08:40
romuloi have school in 2 hours08:40
romulo=P08:40
nickgarveycaonex: couldn't get wireless worknig08:40
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romuloand i havent sleep anything yet08:40
romulo=P08:40
caonexnickgarvey: even with ndiswrapper?08:40
nickgarveycaonex: I might try again08:40
mikeyou have to uninstall bcmw4xx08:40
nickgarveycaonex: yeah.. thats what I used08:40
mikeorsomething08:40
King-of-no-pantslater all08:40
nickgarveylater08:40
mikeand then blacklist it08:40
caonexnickgarvey: what driver?08:41
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nickgarveymike: yeah I did that...08:41
lgcnalioth: maybe I'm messing up since I'm working with irssi-text and it's giving me a hard time with flipping between channels...08:41
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nickgarveycaonex: um bcmwl5.inf08:41
caonexnick I used something else I think08:41
CNAPromulo, just tried installing that linux-image 2.16 and ran into some problems. aparently dependencies didn't match. any idea what else i need to download along with the linux-image ?08:41
nickgarveycaonex: its working fine on suse08:41
mikethen make sure you have wlan0 picked as your default gateway08:41
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blindxSo Descartes enters a bar and has a glass. When he finishes, the bartender says "hey, want another?" Descartes replies "I think not" and instantly vanishes in a poof of logic.08:41
caonexnickgarvey: using the same procedures?08:41
nickgarveymike: ah but thats the problem!08:41
blindxgah wrong channel.08:41
lgcnalioth: what I mean is I hardly know how to operate it...08:41
romulofor (i=0;i<sizeof(long)*sizeof(long);i++) std::cout << "I hate ndiswrapper" << std::endl;08:41
nickgarveyit was detecitng it as eth0!08:41
mikeyeah08:41
romuloCNAP, will check08:41
nickgarveyhaha nice romulo08:41
mikemake sure that you select wlan08:42
ahmeniWarbo: Ahh, debootstrap is in the gentoo repository too.  Thanks :)08:42
nickgarveymike: I didn't pick it08:42
romuloor just while(1) std::cout << ...08:42
caonexnickgarvey: netbc64.inf08:42
nickgarveywhen it detected the interface, thtas what it picked08:42
nickgarveycaonex: ? where did you get that?08:42
caonexromulo: I don't like it, but what other choice?08:42
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romuloDepends: module-init-tools (>= 0.9.13), e2fsprogs (>= 1.35-7), initramfs-tools (>= 0.53) | yaird (>= 0.0.12-8) | linux-initramfs-tool08:42
ahmeniOne must not hate ndiswrapper, but hate the network cards that use them!08:42
Warboahmeni: You can use it to give you basic Debian, then change that into Ubuntu08:42
caonexnickgarvey: some tutorials online08:42
nickgarveyahmeni: :)08:42
romulocaonex, i dont have any choice, neither ndis, neither bcm works =(08:42
intelikeyhmmmm i wonder if this is actually going to break something....    apt-get --purge remove passwd08:42
mikeany luck?08:42
nickgarveycaonex: I read several, which is how I got the driver I have now08:43
caonexok....I will try with drapper08:43
romuloahmeni, you right, i hate my wireless card!!!08:43
caonexromulo: try debian or drapper?08:43
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nickgarveydapper*08:43
mikedapper rocks my balls off08:43
romulocaonex, i will install dapper tomorrow08:43
romulocaonex, im in conflict with amd64 distros08:43
romulo=P08:43
romulois something like *i hate you*08:43
caonexnickgarvey: I will msg you if I ge tit working08:43
caonexromulo: I have gotten this 64 to work nicely08:44
unforcerubuntu has confilict with all platfrom08:44
unforcers08:44
nickgarveygood luck08:44
caonexromulo: the only thing is the card08:44
romulomy 64 is working good08:44
romuloeverything except the wireless is working08:44
romulobut 64 bit system is not for me08:44
mikedoes anyone have any suggestions on why i can't get my fglrx driver installed properly08:44
mike?08:44
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caonexromulo you use a built kernel or the one that comes with it?08:44
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unforcerubuntu is slow..08:44
romulomike, probably you didnt followed the readme on them :D08:44
caonexromulo: binary one?08:44
nickgarveysleep time08:44
romulocaonex, the one08:44
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romulocaonex, i was using a built one08:44
romulo=p08:44
mikehaha, i've follwed the readme in and out about a dozen times:)08:44
romulomike, so you are unlucky :D08:45
mikehaha, i'll take that as the answer!08:45
OrTigaSi tried visudo and add "user ALL=(ALL) ALL" but still the same wont accept sudo -s passwd08:45
mikei've got an ati 9100 igp08:45
romulomike, boot X, install the driver on X, get off X, on console run ./ati-something --buildpkg Ubuntu/yourversion and then install the *.debs generated by buildpkg08:45
mikeand can't get it08:45
romulomike, is it supported by proprietary drivers?08:45
mikeyah08:46
romulomike, maybe it is supported by radeon08:46
romulolet me see08:46
lgcnalioth: good idea. So I'll proceed with certain confidence. Thanks...08:46
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ahmeniWarbo: ooh, apparently debootstrap can even pull down ubuntu.08:46
romulooh cool08:46
romuloit is supported08:46
romulolucky guy :D08:46
mikei just can't get it installed08:46
romulomike, whats the errors/output?08:47
mikei don't ever get errors08:47
romulocaonex, tomorrow i will make ati work on dapper.08:47
romulocaonex, so if you stick here, i can find a solution :D08:47
OrTigaSis it correct what i add in visudo?08:47
mikeit's just mesa always shows up when i do fglrxinfo08:47
caonexromulo: you will get it.....but might not owrk for me08:47
romulomike, ok, modprob'ed fglrx?08:47
OrTigaSor something missing on the command08:47
mike??08:47
romulocaonex, if it doesnt you setup a ssh and i do it for you :D08:48
caonexromulo: the stuff in the bios and my ati is the problem08:48
romulomike, installed the *.run on X?08:48
lariis ssh setup automatically with breezy ?08:48
romulomike, what steps did you take?08:48
caonexromulo: if you get it to work I can do it.....I will try to do it now....I will open a shell if you can and I can't08:48
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mikeinstalled ati proprietary drivers08:48
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romulocaonex, oki :D08:48
caonexromulo: I am trying to see where to download it from but can't find 5.1508:48
romulomike, the question is.....how08:48
caonexor whatever08:48
romulocaonex, 5.15?08:48
romulowhats that?08:49
romulodapper is 6.0608:49
romulo=P08:49
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mikei created the ubuntu package from the ati installer.run08:49
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lariapproximately what date does Dapper go final ?08:49
caonexromulo: I think I got it....how stable is it?08:49
romulomike, ok, so now you need the kernel one08:49
romulomike, on X, do sudo ./ati-something08:49
romulocaonex, dunno, running amd64 debian yet08:49
romulolari, 1st June 200608:49
ahmeniOh god I'm an idiot.08:49
lariok thank you08:49
romuloyw08:50
patrick52222hey08:50
mikegah, no, so scared to try it08:50
romulomike, why? =P08:50
ahmeniI'm thinking "argh, i don't have a blank CD to burn ubuntu on..", then I realize I've still got half the ubuntu cd's i ordered to give out at my LUG08:50
mikeright now, i have 3d acceleration with the ati driver that comes with the install08:50
caonexromulo: is not in a point in which could harm my hardware, you think?08:50
prgrmri was making a mistake and chnge the /etc/resolv.conf mode into 755 =\08:50
romulocaonex, it is fine for use i think08:50
romuloprgrmr, so undo it. sudo chmod 644 /etc/resolv.conf08:51
caonexromulo: that's cool...thanks....08:51
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caonexromulo: on my way downloading flight 608:51
mikehaha, romulo, if you could walk me through step by step and guarantee that this time it work, i'd do it08:51
cyphasecaonex, wait08:51
romuloi was thinking...if someone gets to your account(like sshing) and do sudo rm -rf /* , it will work?08:51
cyphasecaonex, the beta s coming out tomorrow08:51
romulomike, i cant guarantee....neither ATI cant08:51
mikelol08:52
LTR2000i'm switching back to Windows tomorrow, had to many problems with ubuntu over the past few weeks.08:52
cyphasemaybe even in a few hours. i'm not sure08:52
romulocyphase, dapper?08:52
mikei know08:52
cyphaseromulo, yea08:52
romulowow cool08:52
romuloso i wasted the server bandwith today twice :D08:52
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cyphaselol08:52
romulodownloaded two isos of dapper08:52
caonexcyphase: why not just apt-get upgrade?08:52
lariis that legal ?08:52
romulomike, still wanna try?08:52
romulolari, what?08:52
cyphaseby the time you download, burn, install, and start to get comfortable, the beta will be out08:52
mike....yes.08:52
larij/k :)08:52
mikelol08:52
CNAPwhat happens when you install a kernel designed for SMP support on a single proc machine?08:52
caonexcyphase: at what time tomorrow?08:53
romulomike, ok, open up shell and do sudo ./ati-something.run08:53
mikei need to download it again first08:53
larihmm08:53
cyphasecaonex, i'm not sur08:53
mikehold ons08:53
cyphasesure*08:53
prgrmrromulo, i get error, chmod: changing permissions of 'etc/resolv.conf': Operation not permitted08:53
lariwell if there are isos for dapper what am doing idle here ???08:53
cyphasemaybe a few hours, maybe longer08:53
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caonexcyphase: thanks for being so nice and letting us know08:53
crimsunCNAP: it just runs slightly slower08:53
cyphasecaonex, my pleasure :)08:53
romuloprgrmr, sudo chattr -i /etc/resolv.conf && sudo chmod 644 /etc/resolv.conf08:53
caonexcyphase: you developer?08:53
mikei just want to download the ati.blahblah.run right?08:53
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romulocyphase, yeah, really thanks08:54
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romulobut i will install the iso i got anyway =p08:54
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romuloim crazy to see it08:54
romulo=P08:54
romulolike a crazy dog08:54
cyphasecaonex, no, but i'm working on something that might go into dapper+1 or +208:54
romuloops, wait, maybe it comes with 2.6.1608:54
lgcnalioth_zZz: I suppose I should reboot now, shouldn't I?08:54
romulo=P08:54
cyphaseromulo, your welcome08:54
romulocyphase, whats it?08:54
nalioth_zZzlgc: nope08:54
nalioth_zZzlgc: you almost never have to reboot a linux system08:54
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lgcnalioth_zZz: How about that! So the changes are in effect? Let me see then...08:55
cyphaseromulo, it's a RSS/Atom/Feed framework08:55
prgrmrromulo, 10x again :)08:55
romulocyphase, gtk?08:55
cyphasewith some extra features08:55
romuloprgrmr, you welcome again :)08:55
cyphaseromulo, it's probably going to be a daemon08:55
romulocyphase, wich language?08:56
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lariactually at this point in time why mess with Dapper since i'm not proficient enough to debug it.  and its a long way until it goes final.08:56
cyphaseromulo, python, at least for now08:56
romulocyphase, hmm cool08:56
cyphasei don't have much code right now08:56
romuloeven if i dont like/dont know python08:56
cyphasemostly concept and design08:56
romulocyphase, hmm08:56
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romuloif you need help and going for a switch to C/c++, let me know08:56
romuloeven mono is good08:56
romuloi mean, ok for help08:56
cyphaselol08:56
cyphaseok08:56
romulonot a good scripter08:56
OrTigaSi need help :)08:57
romuloexcept for php08:57
lgcnalioth_zZz: doesn't work and doesn't even let me log out of the graphical session!08:57
OrTigaSi tried visudo and add "user ALL=(ALL) ALL" but still the same wont accept sudo -s passwd08:57
OrTigaSor something missing on the command08:57
romulolgc, ctrl+alt+breakspace will kill/restart your X session08:57
mikeromulo, do i need to uninstall anything before i do this?08:57
CNAPhow can you check your kernel version? i don't think uname -a is accurate08:57
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romulomike, not that i know08:57
reteri have a file that wont dpkg -i when i do the command http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1259108:57
romuloCNAP, uname -r08:57
reterhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1259108:57
romuloreter, checking08:57
lgcromulo: thanks. Thing is it should let me out politely...08:57
romuloi love my epiphany08:57
romulo=)08:57
romulolgc, yeah but since i dont know what you doing, cant say exactly :D08:58
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nalioth_zZzlgc: go to your terminal and type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" (you will lose this irc session) or ctrl-alt-bkspace (you will lose this irc session)08:58
CNAPif i reboot, will it update my kernel version? because for some reason, i don't think that's entirely accurate08:58
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romuloCNAP, you updated it?08:58
Toma-reter: whats the size of this file you have?08:58
romuloCNAP, like, you isntalled a new one?08:58
reteri dont kniow08:59
romuloreter, du -H sun-j2rel.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb08:59
romuloor du sun-j2rel.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb08:59
lgcnalioth_zZz: this is a text session, so I won't lose it. I am restarting via brute force...08:59
Toma-reter: looks like an incomplete download08:59
firebird_619could someone please take a look at the output from trying to install WW2D which I pasted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12588    I am trying to install WW2D on Breezy but it isn't working.08:59
romuloor ls -l sun-j2rel.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb08:59
CNAPromulo, yes i believe i did.  did an "apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-20-686"08:59
mikeromulo, i'm running dapper08:59
romuloCNAP, ok so AFAIK you should reboot09:00
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mikedoes that make a difference?09:00
romulomike, afaik you dont need to uninstall it09:00
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romulomike, i never messed with dapper(YET, till tomorrow >:) )09:00
CNAPromulo, ok let me try it and see what happens09:00
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lgcnalioth_zZz: it says the gnome kbd settings differ from those of the X sys settings. Which one should prevail?09:00
romuloCNAP, oki.09:00
romulolgc, it depends.09:00
reterromalu: can not access. no such file or directory09:00
lgcromulo: on what?09:00
romuloreter, ls09:01
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romuloand check if the file is there09:01
romulolgc, depends on wich one you modified for the right09:01
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romuloif they differ, sometihng is different09:01
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romuloyou should know the one is right09:01
Toma-reter: can you see the file in nautilus? just click it and itll tell you the size in the bottom toolbar09:01
mikewhat about the agpgart module stuff?09:01
mikeany idea?09:01
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romulomike, i use ati's agp09:01
mikekk09:02
patrick52222how do i install .tar.gzz09:02
mikewhat card do youo have?09:02
romulomike, from /etc/X11/xorg.conf, Section "Device" -> Option  "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"09:02
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romulomike, Ati Mobility Radeon X60009:02
mikesweet09:02
romuloyeah its an awesome card09:02
mikei'm so scared this wont' work09:03
mikelol09:03
nalioth_zZzlgc: do you use gnome more than anything else?09:03
lgcromulo: I just went through the reconfigure process. I just chose the Gnome settings in hope of the best...09:03
romulodont be09:03
mikei had to reinstall earlier because i messed with some diversions09:03
damian_the most that could happen is your computer explode in a massive fireball .. you'll be dead09:03
damian_:P09:03
mikecause i didn't know what i was doing:(09:03
mikehaha09:03
lgcnalioth_zZz: so far yes. I mean I don't have KDE installed...09:03
romuloi had once a computer burning on my side09:03
romulocpu heated, melted and MB burned09:04
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nalioth_zZzlgc: then try the gnome settings09:04
mikewhat's the diff between xfree86 and x.org?09:04
patrick52222i have this file ddclient.tar.gz and i need to install it09:04
romulomike, X.org is more updated, no stupid license issues09:04
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romulomike, X.org is also prettier :D and a young girl09:04
romulo=P09:04
mikeahhhhhhh09:04
romuloyou know...teens are hot09:04
mikehahahahahahahah09:04
OrTigaSi tried visudo and add "user ALL=(ALL) ALL" but still the same wont accept sudo -s passwd09:04
romulomike, where you from09:04
mikeu.s.09:05
mikeiowa09:05
romuloOrTigaS, repeat your phrase wont make us know about your problem more than before09:05
ahmeniromulo: from super nerd to pervert in three lines!09:05
romuloahmeni, haha09:05
nalioth_zZz!offtopic09:05
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!09:05
romuloi have my secrets ;)09:05
romulonalioth_zZz, you are sleeping, you cant argue09:05
romulo=P09:05
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mikeso, after i download this, i'll create the ubuntu packages09:06
mikecan i do that with x running?09:06
lgcnalioth_zZz: romulo, didn't work! The kbd is still dead!09:06
romulomike, you should install the *.run from X first, then create and install the packages09:06
OrTigaSromulo i login as a user and i cant do "sudo -s" it always say "sorry, try again" when i enter the right passwd09:06
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mikewhat?09:06
OrTigaSso its sudoer issue09:06
callumhi09:07
romuloOrTigaS, i dont know much about sudo, cant help you with this09:07
romulomike, thats right09:07
callumhello09:07
OrTigaSsudo cant help here :(09:07
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callumcan u hear me09:07
mikeyou're just gonna have to give me step by step code as well09:07
mike:)09:07
romulomike, you should run as superuser the *.run file inside X(on a X session) and then buildpkg and install the debs09:07
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romulomike, oki, as long i stay awake09:07
mikehaha09:07
romulocallum, yes09:08
mikexsession is just like... gnome or kde, right?09:08
romulomike, yeah09:08
patrick52222i have this file ddclient.tar.gz and i need to install it09:08
romulopatrick24601, tar -zxvf ddclient.tar.gz09:08
callumsweet09:08
romulocd to the directory and read the README file.09:08
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romuloor even INSTALL or COMPILE09:08
callumhow do i open terminal09:08
mikeso, the .run file executes, and prompts me to either do an install that way, or create packages09:08
romulocallum, gnome or kde?09:08
mikei want to create packages, not do the install09:08
callumgnome09:08
romulocallum, Alt<F2>, gnome-terminal, <RETURN>09:09
Blarioanyone know what to do to get the wireless working on a laptop?09:09
romulomike, you need to do both09:09
Blariohp zv600009:09
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Blarioactually, nvm, i can google this09:09
romulomike, just install commonly with the run09:09
mikeblario, do you have dapper?09:09
Blarioyeah09:09
lgcnalioth_zZz: with X setting it DOES work!09:09
callumalt f2 aint working09:09
mikeyeah, you want to use ndiswrapper?09:09
romulomike, then generate the buildpkg and install then09:09
Blarioi tested with teh live cd and it would never connect09:09
mikeo1how do i extract a deb?09:09
Blarioi hate ndiswrapper09:10
Blariolol09:10
mikei love it:)09:10
callumis gnome debian?09:10
Blariook... question09:10
mikeonly way i've ever gotten my wireless card to work09:10
romulocallum, no.09:10
mikeo1how do i extract a package?09:10
callumok09:10
Blariodid you ever get it to a point where could switch network easily?09:10
romulocallum, www.debian.org and www.gnome.org, you should have answers09:10
mikeyeah09:10
mikegtk wifi09:10
Blarioi had it running on fc4 and after i would disconnect from one, i would have to restart to be able to get on another09:10
romulomikeo1, dpkg -x package.deb09:11
Blarioand you have some gui that works wit it?09:11
romuloto install, dpkg -i package.deb09:11
mikeyeah09:11
romuloBlario, i do, but ndiswrapper dont work here09:11
Blariocause i was having to do all my connecting and configuration from cmd line09:11
lgcnalioth_zZz: you awake?09:11
callumdoes anyone have the link to java?09:11
romulocheck up wifi-radar on gnomefiles.org i think09:11
romulocallum, www.sun.com/java i believe09:11
Blarioalright09:11
mikeya, wifi radar is a good one09:11
nalioth_zZzlgc: muy bien!09:11
Blarioalright, imma write both those down09:12
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Blarioyou all know this works by default on suse right? lol09:12
lgcnalioth_zZz: only thing is, with the other user I chose Gnome settings and it didn't work. How can I revert the settings to be those of X?09:12
mikeyeah, but i love ubuntu09:12
mike:)09:12
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Blario[03:11]  (romulo) Blario, i do, but ndiswrapper dont work here09:13
Blarioyou said it doesn't work on dapper?09:13
romuloBlario, no.09:13
romuloBlario, actually im running debian-amd64 , not dapper09:13
Blarioalright, that might be a good thing09:13
nalioth_zZzlgc: use the settings that work  System > preferences > keyboard09:13
lgcnalioth_zZz: thanks!09:13
Blarioalright, so i'd use wifi-radar instead of ndiswrapper. . . ?09:14
mikealright romulo, it'sdownloaded09:14
mikewhat command to install?09:14
romuloBlario, no, you use both together09:14
Blarioahh09:14
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Blarioalright09:14
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romuloBlario, first do ndiswrapper, and use wifi-radar to do graphical configuration09:14
Blarioahh09:14
romulomike, whats the file name?09:14
Blarioalright09:14
tylerHow do I make the clock in Kubuntu not use military time?09:14
Tomcat_Somebody with breezy here who can confirm that firefox-1.0.8 doesn't show the "Manage Bookmarks" window any more?09:14
mikeati-driver-installer-8.24.8-x86.run09:15
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althGreetings!09:15
romulomike, ok, sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8.24.8-x86.run09:15
callumtyler, right click, prefrences09:15
mikedoes it matter where i run it from?09:15
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romulomike, it should be runned from the folder the file is in09:15
Blarioalth, that's what i'm about to try09:15
althBlario: Cool :)09:15
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Blarioany issues i should know about?09:16
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mikei mean, but does it need to be anywhere special?09:16
romuloalth, doing debian-amd64 on my laptop, going for dapper09:16
romulomike, no.09:16
mikelike right now i downloaded the file to my desktop09:16
mikek09:16
Althromulo, cool :)09:16
romuloAlth, yeah09:16
romuloAlth, may i ask you wich wireless card?09:16
AlthI did have a question regarding my latop...09:16
romuloif you have one09:16
rony_Does any one here find that evolution crashes at lauch when using an exchange server as the mail server?09:17
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Althromulo: I have a PCMCIA card, D-link DWL-650 I think, but I hven't tried to get it working yet.09:17
mikewhoa, it doesn't let me do sudo09:17
romulomike, whats the output?09:17
Blariopz. about to try this install09:18
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mikecommand not found09:18
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romulobrb 1 min.09:18
AlthAnyway, my question - in windows, my laptop can scroll scrollbars with the sides of the trackpad. Is there any way to do that in Linux?09:18
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ronybeckany one know why Evolution crashes at launch when using the exchange plugin?09:19
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acadhey jeery09:19
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PwcrLinuxHi there09:19
AlthAnyone know?09:19
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AlthGuess not :(09:20
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lgcnalioth_zZz: It's working fine now! Thanks a million, man!09:20
vinboyhi09:20
vinboyi'm using athlon09:21
vinboyshould I sudo apt-get install linux-686?09:21
lariyes i think that would be wise09:21
romulovinboy, i think athlon is k709:21
romuloback09:21
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lariactually09:21
lariyes09:21
larik709:21
romuloisnt 686 pentium 2 and pentium 3/pro09:21
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lari686 might have optimizations the athlon processor doesn't support09:21
AlthOk, another question. What are the disadvantages in running Dapper?09:22
lariits a beta09:22
mikeromula, shouldn't it let me install it that way?09:22
romuloAlth, its not done.09:22
mikeromulo09:22
romulomike, you should try su then09:22
Althromulo, I see.09:22
lgcnalioth_zZz: I'm off for tonight. Again: Muchas gracias!!09:22
romulomike, type whereis sudo09:22
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lgcq09:22
lgcq09:22
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mike/usr/bin/sudo09:23
romuloso09:23
mike/usr/bin/X11/sudo09:23
romulo/usr/bin/sudo ./ati-something.run09:23
mike/usr/share/man/man8/sudo.8.gz09:23
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sfarAnyone know how to get anti-aliased fonts in aMSN? I found this page but i still dont get it: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-84765.html09:23
romulostill trying to figure why it said sudo command not found09:23
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mikeis  there another way to execute .run files?09:24
romulodoes TK support anti alias?09:24
fyrestrtrcan someone remind me what is the wiki entry to get anti-aliased fonts?09:24
romulomike09:24
romuloyes09:24
romulomike, infact i forgot to tell ya to chmod it09:24
sfarromulo, what is TK?09:24
romulochmod +x ati-something09:24
mikeahahahahaha09:24
romulosfar, afaik aMsn is built under tk09:24
mikethar we go09:24
romulosorry09:24
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sfarromulo:  because on the page someone has written "Also when compiling TK I had to change --with-tcl=/usr/local/lib/tcl8.5 to --with-tcl=/usr/local/lib."09:25
mikenow it says detected version of x does not have a matching "x700" directory09:25
romulohmm maybe that person tk library is on /usr/local/lib =P09:25
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caiziyuanhello09:25
romulomike, hmm why x700?09:25
mikei am apparently runing xorg 7.0.009:25
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romulohmm09:26
romuloyou can do X --version09:26
vinboyromulo: so I should install linux-k7?09:26
sfarromulo: so how do i recompile TK? :)09:26
romulovinboy, yeah09:26
romulovinboy, is a athlon xp or 64?09:26
vinboyromulo: thanks :D09:26
romulosfar, hmm download the tarballs and recompile it09:26
romulovinboy, yw09:26
caiziyuan#kubuntu-offtopic09:26
vinboyit is athlon xp mobile09:26
AlthIs ubuntu likely to detect my D-Link card automatically?09:26
romuloso k709:27
AlthIf not, what should I do?09:27
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fyrestrtrAlth: boot with the livecd first09:27
fyrestrtrto make sure09:27
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romulofyrestrtr, maybe the kernel is old and might not find it, no?09:28
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romuloanyway it needs to be tested =P09:28
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romulomike, so?09:29
mikehow do you enable su?09:29
xbox_skyvmware - LPT1 Port "check device or cable error" i'm trying to use my mp3 player in vmware, how do I use/give access to my LPT1 Port?09:29
romulomike, i think thats in the ubuntu faq09:29
nmsagood morning09:29
romuloxbox_sky, it is on paralel port?09:30
xbox_skyromulo yeah that's correct09:30
romuloxbox_sky, paralel is /dev/ttySX?09:30
romuloi cant remember09:30
romulo=P09:30
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nmsajust installed dapper on a PIII and after the updated Gnome starts no more and the system is blocked; can't do a thing except reset; anyone had the same issue? any solution ?09:31
xbox_skyhmm09:31
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xbox_skyromulo there's a /dev/tty but not SX?09:31
romulonmsa, you cant even login?09:31
romuloxbox_sky, i dont remember -_-09:31
nmsacan't do anything!09:31
mcdenyerhey whats a sweet game i can get of synaptic haha im bored09:31
romulonmsa, kernel finish loading AND?09:31
romulomcdenyer, mahjongg09:32
romulo:D09:32
xbox_skyoh ok tx anyways09:32
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nmsaromulo: I see starting Gnome and then a black screen and the cursor not bliking09:32
mikek, romulo, installing09:32
nmsacan't go to console mode, nothing09:32
xbox_skythere's a linux app I can use, but after 4 mp3s the rest gets corrupted :09:32
mikecustom or automatic install?09:32
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romulosh*t, sorry i closed xchat09:33
romulomisclicked09:33
mikeromulo you scared me09:33
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mikeanyway, custom or automatic install?09:33
romuloautomatic09:33
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romuloits cold here, brb, going to get a shirt09:33
AlthAlth: boot with the livecd first <-- I'm running ubuntu now :P09:34
mikeromulo, k, exiting installer now09:34
AlthRight, I'm rebooting and hoping it'll detect09:34
mikedo i need to do any config file stuff?09:34
mikeor wait?09:34
nmsaI think I will reinstall again and will not update soon, but don't know the problems ... or maybe update w/o the X or gnome packages09:34
romulomike, now do the buildpkg09:34
romulosudo ./ati-something --buildpkg Ubuntu/yours =P09:35
mikek09:35
romuloi think theres a --list command or something, check out the --help09:35
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PwcrLinuxgood morning paul09:35
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romulohow do you know you love linux? You buy a penguin instead of a dog09:36
romulo=P09:36
ompaul!goodmorning09:36
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matgood morning09:36
romulomorning, altough is 4:40 am here09:36
romulo=P09:36
mikesays requested package is not supported09:36
mike:|09:36
mat9:36 AM here09:37
romulohmm try a diff revision09:37
romulolet me see09:37
PwcrLinux237 am here09:37
mikecan't i use the installer to generate packages?09:37
romulooh yes09:37
romulotry it09:37
romulo=P09:37
mikek09:37
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romulohmm there is Ubuntu/dapper09:38
mikeyeah09:38
mikeubuntu/dapper09:38
mikeor ubuntu/6.0409:38
romulohmm capital "U"09:39
TraceGreenHello, I try to boot system, but there is nothing in /dev, anyone know why?09:39
romulothats freaky =P09:39
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mikei say...09:40
romuloomg im freazing09:40
romulo=P09:40
mikehaha09:40
mikedapper09:40
mikecan i use this ati installer and create 'em?09:40
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mikeor do i need to exit and it via commandline?09:40
AlthOn my windows box now with my laptop next to me...easier to type :D09:40
romuloi dunno09:40
romuloi always do on command line09:40
cafuegoATI installer?09:40
romulocafuego, yes.09:40
mikek09:40
AlthHmm, the laptop didn't detect the wireless card...Not sure if the card is dead or not. Do I have to do anything special?09:41
cafuegoUse the fglrx package.09:41
mike???09:41
romulocafuego, hes doing the default way with ati installer09:41
cafuego!ati09:41
ubotuati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358909:41
cafuegoromulo: He shouldn't.09:41
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romulocafuego, well he didnt set the binary before, so as long as i know the default one, im helping him09:41
romuloim not yet on my dapper wishes09:41
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romulomike?09:42
brownie17does anyone know if there's some command i can type to check my net status?09:42
AlthAnyone know if I have to do anything special to run a PCMCIA card? Or if the card works should it just run?09:42
mikekya?09:42
cafuegoinstalling unpackaged software is a bad idea, especially when it's as low-quality as ATI stuff09:42
Alth<brownie17> does anyone know if there's some command i can type to check my net status? <== Ping?09:42
romulomike, so?09:42
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mike??09:42
romulomike, extracted?09:42
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brownie17Alth,  new to linux, it still in format "ping http://www.google.com"? for example?09:43
romulocafuego, i agree, but since i didnt knew that before, i couldnt help him09:43
mikei want to do it the other way09:43
mikelol09:43
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mikei can't create the packages through commandline09:43
PwcrLinuxbrownie17: : for netstat of listening ports or send a ping on server to check if they're alive?09:43
romulomike, great, so just follow the links :D09:43
AlthSure is, brownie17.09:43
romuloshould be easier09:43
cafuego'sudo apt-get install fglrx; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'09:43
NET||abusei've got a problem, i've enabled universe and even backports, ut i can't find libmysqlclient1509:43
mikewhat was the !ati thing?09:44
brownie17Alth, "ping: unknown host http://www.google.com09:44
brownie17"09:44
romuloa bot command09:44
romuloprobably09:44
brownie17PwcrLinux, just to check if my net is working09:44
AlthNo http://?09:44
romulocafuego you forgot the xorg-driver-fglrx09:44
cafuegomike: Go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI09:44
mikei already installed via the ati installer though09:44
cafuegomike: it has full instructions.09:44
Althbrownie17: Just do ping www.google.com. :)09:45
romuloi think that doesnt make diff mike09:45
cafuegomike: Remove whatever the ATI installer put on your system and cross your fingers.09:45
romuloyou can still install the pkg ones09:45
AlthOr ubuntu.com, if you want to be loyal :P09:45
romulolol.09:45
PwcrLinuxbrownie17: in the terminal box, and type  "ping addy" and be aware the ping doesn't end, you can use ctrl-c to cancell pingings09:45
brownie17Alth, thanks. that works fine and dandy09:45
romulocafuego, been using ati installer for a long time, its not that bad.09:45
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NET||abusei've got a 5.0.16 mysql server on a system here, but i want to connect to it remotely, problem is my mysqlclient is too old, doesn't support authentication method, is the error message09:45
romuloits just not cool out the box, but it works09:45
romuloand it doesnt mess with your system09:45
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brownie17PwcrLinux, in windows there is a switch you can use so it only pings for 15 seconds09:45
mikegah, i've doing this one ove rand over09:45
romulosince it generates *.debs09:45
cafuegoromulo: ATI is _so_ bad that I couldn't even use their hardware until last year.09:45
vinboyi have installed the linux-k709:45
mikeromulo, i'm with you09:46
vinboyhow do I use that kernel instead of the 386?09:46
romulocafuego, i agree is bad on linux09:46
mikei'm creating the packages09:46
NET||abuseso since 14 is the most up to date i can find in the debs,,, i presume is libmysqlclient15 i need09:46
cafuegoThey still don't support powerpc.09:46
niss3some swedish here?09:46
cafuegovinboy: Just reboot09:46
PwcrLinuxbrownie17: yes, for windows limits to 15 pings, so the linux have unlimited of pings..09:46
romulocafuego, nvidia does?09:46
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romuloPwcrLinux, actually if you do ping -t on windows it goes unlimited09:46
romulo=P09:46
cafuegoromulo: not powerpc, but they have supported amd64 (what I have) for a very long time.09:46
NET||abusebrownie17, -t just keeps going09:47
romulocafuego, ati too.09:47
romuloim using amd64 drivers right now09:47
romulowith 3d acceleration09:47
PwcrLinuxromulo: Oh yea, I forgot lol09:47
C-O-L-TWhere is ubuntu BETA, today is April the 20th09:47
sfarWhat to do if my keyboard isn't responding? It works, but niss3 configured xserver-xorg wrong so that almost NO buttons work :)09:47
cafuegoromulo: No, not ATI. Not supported when I bought mine, which was over a year since it was first introduced.09:47
brownie17PwcrLinux, is english your primary language? i'm having a little trouble understandinhg you sorry09:47
sfars/my/a09:47
PwcrLinuxbrownie17: yea, i'm in USA09:47
niss3i changed my keymap :(09:47
romulocafuego, i dunno a year ago, but since i bought my notebook it does support it, and well.09:47
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romulocafuego, not so well as i wish to09:48
mikeno, that didn't work09:48
mikedamnit09:48
brownie17PwcrLinux, so there is no switch to limit the pings?09:48
romulomike, what? generate the packages?09:48
vinboythx cafuego09:48
mikeyeah09:48
sfarHe cant login (enter his username) without a keyboard.. please help :)09:48
romulodo a modprobe fglrx and then change your driver on xorg.conf from ati, radeon to fglrx09:48
PwcrLinuxbrownie17: hang on09:48
PwcrLinuxromulo: is there a ping can limits up to 15 pings in the linux terminal box?09:49
romulocafuego, i still hate those closed source drivers09:49
romuloPwcrLinux, dunno, i just ctrl+c when i want to stop it09:49
romulo=P09:49
PwcrLinuxromulo: okay09:49
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ahmeniPwcrLinux: ping -c 15 blah.com09:49
romuloyeah09:49
romulothats right09:49
PwcrLinuxaha09:49
romuloman ping show -c means count :D09:49
brownie17PwcrLinux, it's okay, i found one09:50
romulowas just looking =P09:50
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brownie17PwcrLinux, thanks for your help09:50
brownie17cya09:50
PwcrLinuxbrownie17: ur welcome09:50
mikeah, didn't have build essential installed09:51
niss3can i login to my account if my keyboard dosent work? :/09:51
niss3if yes, how?09:51
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ompaulniss3, if your machine has sshd invoked you can log in remotely but dead keyboards should be replaced with live ones :)09:52
romuloompaul, hahaha09:52
mikek09:53
mikepackages generate09:53
romuloompaul, live ones that eat your fingers and stick you to computer til 6am09:53
romulo=P09:53
miked09:53
romulomike, dpkg -i the driver and driver-dev now09:53
romulo=P09:53
PwcrLinuxspilled onto kb? or just dead? lol09:53
ompaul!enter09:53
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.09:53
ompaulromulo, ^^09:53
ahmeniReal men generate PS/2 data by hand!09:53
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niss3!enter09:53
romuloubotu, sorry.09:53
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, romulo09:53
ompaulthat is the channel bot09:53
FlannelKing!bot09:53
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.09:53
NET||abuseplease can someone help me.... i've been trying to connect to a mysql server versin 5.0.16, i'm pretty sure i need the libmysqlclient15 package, however i've done everything i know how and can only find libmysqlclient14 in the debs.. i've enabled universe and backports...09:54
niss3ompaul i changed my keymap to "see" :/09:54
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romuloyeah i know09:54
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emu_hi09:54
NET||abuseWhat do i need to do?09:54
FlannelKingniss3: thats an OS speciifc thing, right? so, you can switch to rescue mode from grub?09:54
mikek09:55
mikerom09:55
mikedid both09:55
ompaulniss3, so try to work out by using the echo function in the "username" space what the letters are now mapped to09:55
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romulomike, ok, so now open up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:55
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niss3FlannelKing yes, i have tried that to. but when im restaring the computer (i wanna login to my account) then the keys dont work.09:55
ompaulmike please put all your thoughts on one line with a comma between them, thanks09:56
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mikealright romulo, i opened the xorg.conf file09:57
Marcowho'sMatthew09:57
mikeand disregarded ompauls comment09:57
xbox_skyim in vmware options, and it needs an output file in order to locate my lpt1 port, anyone know where Its located?09:57
mike:)09:57
romulomike, search for Device Section wich says Driver "radeon", ati or fglrx09:57
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MarcoI'm  sorry!!09:57
romulomike, oh, better, run aticonfig09:57
mikeso, don't edit the xorg?09:58
romuloyeah09:58
romuloaticonfig --initial09:58
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mikek09:58
mikenow open xorg.conf?09:59
romulono no09:59
romulomodprobe fglrx09:59
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mikeoperation not permittted?09:59
romulosudo modprobe fglrx09:59
ompaulromulo, there is a much easier way, mike: >>sudo dpkg-recongfigure xserver-xorg<< and choose fglrx as the card10:00
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mikeno love10:00
romuloompaul, aticonfig --initial already does that10:00
romulomike, what you mean?10:00
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mikeerror inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-20-686/volatile/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted10:01
teletubbiehow do I setup ossmixer for ubuntu?10:01
romulohmm, just try to reopen X.org10:01
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teletubbiemy gnome volume tells me it is using ossmixer. but how do I configure my  media player to use ossmixer?10:01
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romulomike, Ctrl+alt+Backspace or relog10:01
mikek10:02
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C-O-L-Thttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta?highlight=%28beta%2910:04
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mikek, restarted x10:05
teletubbiesome one helps me with esd. why do I get these errors? http://pastebin.com/67089810:05
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romulomike, run fgl_glxgears10:06
mikedidn't run10:06
mikebadrequest badmatch10:06
mikefailed request i mean10:06
romulohmm so driver isnt up10:07
romulotype lsmod | grep fglrx10:07
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mikedoesn't show anyting10:07
PwcrLinuxbbl10:07
mikei never changed the xorg to fglrx10:07
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romulomike, aticonfig does that for you afaik10:07
miklwhere's the "Take screenshot"-option in the menus gone? Can you turn it back on?10:08
mikeshould i look at the xorg.conf?10:08
romulomike, try to load the fglrx again, sudo modprobe fglrx10:08
mikl - I think it used to be in the "System" menu10:08
ompaulmike https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI that is a step by step guide to doing what you want10:08
OhzieHey. Are there any packages in Synaptic for a virtual machine?10:08
mikeompaul, i've tried taht guide like 3 times10:08
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ompaulmike, how new to market is the card?10:09
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mikeit's a 9100 igp10:09
mikeit's old to the market10:09
teletubbiewhy can't I do apt-get install qt?10:09
teletubbie!qt10:09
ubotuQt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package10:09
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mikewhy do i have two device sections in my xorg.conf?10:11
ompaulmike, correct me if I am wrong I think your on dapper, there are notes at the bottom of the page about same, might be worth looking at10:11
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mikeyeah, i'm on dapper10:11
ompaulthe other thing is that the dapper channel is #ubuntu+110:11
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romulomike, ati creates it, but it sets its own to default10:12
ice_1963is there a driver for ati?10:13
AlthPopular question =o10:13
ice_1963for linux10:13
romulo!ati10:13
ubotufrom memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358910:13
romulonow i say only that =p10:13
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C-O-L-Thttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta?highlight=%28beta%2910:13
romulowhat changed C-O-L-T ?10:14
C-O-L-Tromulo: that is the Dapper Drake BETA page, the iso's are not there but soon we will see those too, they are loading them now10:15
romuloC-O-L-T, hmm i just asked cause u pasted twice10:15
FlannelKingromulo: you can upgrade to the beta, the command is on that page, gksudo something, near the top10:16
romuloim crazy to download those isos, will install them today, after school will buy some blank cdrs :D10:16
romuloFlannelKing, using debian-amd64 right now.10:16
romuloFlannelKing, will go to dapper today, waiting the beta10:16
C-O-L-Tromulo: I know :). In order to inform the community :))10:17
romuloah cool =)10:17
romulolets everybody download through torrents ;)10:18
teletubbie!sound10:18
ubotuI guess sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary10:18
svenskeDoes anyone knows, what`s the problem with the german breezy sources. no updates... de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu ---> it's dead?10:18
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teletubbie!esd10:19
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polpak!info esd10:20
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teletubbiein what line should I put this line? alias sound-slot-0 nvsound10:20
teletubbiein what file*10:21
AlthQuestion.10:22
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AlthHow does one manage multiple monitors on Ubuntu?10:22
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GruByo everybody:D10:22
polpakAlth, there isn't an easy way. Generally you have to tweek your xorg.conf file manually10:22
GruBczy jest kto z Polski??10:23
polpak!pl10:23
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl10:23
GruBjestem na ubuntu.pl10:23
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GruBale szukam polskich czatw:D10:23
Althpolpak - I'm running Ubuntu on my laptop. Want to just plug an external monitor in and have it ignore the LCD temporarily.10:23
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polpakAlth, what's the output from lspci?10:23
polpakAlth, use pastebin pls10:24
fliegenderfroschhello! i've just installed ubuntu dapper on a Asus A6Vc notebook. Now the sound is not working. The Audio-Preferences dialog tells me, the sound card is a "HDA Intel", so it seems to be recognized. Can anybody help me?10:24
Althpolpak: Pardon, would you speak noob please? :P10:24
AlthAlso, I'm IRCing from my windows box, easier to type here. Just so you know.10:24
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polpakAlth, open a terminal, and type lspci. Then copy/paste the output from that command into pastebin10:25
polpak!pastebin10:25
ubotuhmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126910:25
GruBi'm noob :D10:25
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GruBbut i love Ubuntu;pp10:25
GruBoka ja lece10:25
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ice_1963hello :) when i go to install ubuntu i tip server to install the bass.....then i install xserver-xorg then x-window-system-core  ..but how do i install gnome-desktop?10:29
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chavoice_1963, ubuntu-desktop10:29
ice_1963that's it10:29
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ice_1963ok t/u10:30
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polpakice_1963, are you just wanting gnome, or do you want everything else?10:30
stylewalkahi  I problems installing java, maybe anyone could help me ?10:30
ice_1963jest gnome10:30
polpakice_1963, you don't want ubuntu-desktop then10:30
ice_1963ok10:31
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polpakice_1963, try gnome-core10:31
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polpakstylewalka, what's the problem?10:31
tlop1970hola10:31
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ice_1963polpak:gnome-core is not it :)10:32
polpakice_1963, how so?10:32
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stylewalkathere is an error with backport site: I took http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net10:32
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ice_1963when i tip in gnome-core it dos not install gnome10:33
polpakice_1963, sudo apt-get install gnome-core10:33
tlop1970hola carlos10:33
ice_1963that's not it10:33
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teletubbiehow do you configure a software to use osssink as audio output10:34
ice_1963i did that10:34
polpakstylewalka, I think you're following out of date instructions10:34
ompaulstylewalka, forget that and read the messages that ubotu (channel bot) sent you10:34
ndlovuhi all. My ubuntu machine has frozen, and I was wondering if there's any data I can collect from it that would be useful for developers doing bugtracking and the like? Or is it best to ignore it, reboot and carry on regardless?10:34
polpakice_1963, ok.. so you should have gnome10:34
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polpakndlovu, if you have another machine and you installed openssh-server you could try to ssh in and see what's causeing the holdup10:35
ice_1963no i'm running kde right now10:35
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ice_1963in etch10:35
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ndlovupolpak: can't ssh in, but I see it works to open up another terminal on the machine10:36
bliss1_hi10:36
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romulogoing down10:36
romulomorning guys10:36
polpakice_1963, ndlovu if you use top you might be able to see what's locking up and kill it10:36
ndlovupolpak: it seems to be X that's frozen then10:36
ice_1963ok10:36
polpakndlovu, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart10:36
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polpakice_1963, sorry, that wasn't for you10:37
ice_1963lol10:37
polpakice_1963, you need to log out to the console and restart X with gnome10:37
ndlovupolpak: I'm not too worried about getting it working, I was more wondering if it's somehting I should try to figure out in case it's a bug in the system, or is it more trouble than it's worth?10:37
ice_1963i will10:37
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ice_1963polpak t u10:38
polpakndlovu, unless it's the same thing everytime it may be more trouble than it's worth10:38
bliss1_DBO: how it going DBO?10:39
ndlovupolpak: thanks, I'll just restart then and give it more attention if it seems to be recurring.10:39
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yellowhi10:41
yellowhi popak10:41
nmsaromulo: my gdm is ok, was and upgrade not completed ok10:41
nmsanow is ok10:41
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HobbseeAlth: hehe10:42
Hobbseermeove one?10:42
Hobbsees/remove?10:42
chavoAlth, have you tried synergy?10:42
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seliniumAlth10:42
yellowthank you friends this is advocacy i was able to connect to gaim10:42
seliniumAlth I have been known to do the same if with my mobile phone.... :)10:43
seliniumMorning ompaul :)10:43
ompaulmorning selinium10:43
Alth<chavo> Alth, have you tried synergy? <-- The KVM client thing?10:43
yellowhi10:43
Alth* ompaul hands Alth a can of paint <-- Thanks :P10:43
chavoyes you can use one mouse and keyboard for both computers10:43
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joachimwhich group do is needed to use the administrator mode?10:44
Althchavo - One linux, one windows, and the two won't network properly? :P10:44
chavoahh10:44
yellowcant find anything wwwwwwwwwwith ubunto10:44
chavowell I use it between Windows and Linux, but the network is setup10:44
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AlthMy main box hates networking. My backup server networked fine.10:44
yellowboringgg10:45
joachimanyone?10:45
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yellowwindows ia far much bette you know10:45
Warbojoachim: admin10:45
ompaulyellow, ohh behave10:45
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Warboyellow: And spell10:45
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AlthBetter, damnit :P10:45
yellowsddjk10:45
joachimWarbo: okey.. i have that group when i try to use administrator mode i get cannot communicate with sudo10:46
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joachimforgot a , there :p10:46
joachim*.10:46
Warbojoachim: Sounds like a problem with sudo, maybe networking10:46
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yellowyeah better damn it10:47
WarboIs it just me or do isos take ages to copy over USB 1? :(10:47
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DBOyes they would10:47
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seliniumWarbo, they do, yes...10:47
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joachimWarbo: yeah i can't get the net up.. something wrong somewhere.. are there other files i should check besided /etc/networking/interfaces ?10:48
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Warbojoachim: It's that which is breaking sudo. Have you tried /etc/hosts?10:48
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davidwinterhi all. is there a way I can watch WMV9 files?10:48
WarboFinished :)10:48
AlthOk, what's the quickest way to try to network my main box with my laptop? Main box is running windows. My backup server also is running windows, but worked straight off.10:48
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visik7anyone have recently try dbootstrap a sid from breezy ?10:48
hyperstreamhey is there a .rar gui or a way to make archive roller i think it is support the format?10:48
davidwinterI've tried watching them in totem, vlc and mplayer10:48
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Warbodavidwinter: Are they encrypted?10:49
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DBO!tell davidwinter about restricted10:49
Warbohyperstream: unrar package10:49
hyperstreamjoachim,  router? dhcp?10:49
hyperstreamWarbo, that has a gui interface?10:49
seliniumdavidwinter, Have you installed the w32codecs?10:49
hyperstream!avi10:50
ubotufrom memory, avi is Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:50
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Warbohyperstream: File Roller uses it if it is installed10:50
davidwinterWarbo: do you mean DRM encrypted? if so, no10:50
joachimhyperstream: trying to set up static.. dunno exactly what's suppose to be in /etc/hosts.. but it look alright..10:50
hyperstreamoo cool thanks10:50
davidwinterselinium: no - hadn't heard of those10:50
davidwinterlooking into them now10:50
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hyperstreamdavidwinter,: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats go here and do everything cept real player if you dont wish to use real player10:50
hyperstreamnot just the w32 codecs the lot :P10:51
WarboI don't much like that ubotu message, sounds like AVI is hopeless on Linux10:51
davidwinterthanks hyperstream10:51
seliniumdavidwinter, :)10:51
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hyperstreamdavidwinter, no worries i had the same issue for a while10:51
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joachimanyone have a suggestion to why i can't get asministrator mode in KDE on ubuntu? i have the admin group.. it just says "Su returned with an error"10:54
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Warbojoachim: You need your networking to work if Linux is going to talk to itself (like asking for super user)10:54
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IceToxHow do I update my kernel?10:55
joachimargh.. that's what i'm trying to do.. i know how to fix it with X but i have some trouble without it..10:55
hyperstreamlol10:55
teletubbiemy columecontrol is not showing up in the panel10:55
teletubbie:\10:55
IceTox!tell IceTox about kernel update10:55
teletubbieVolume*10:55
hyperstreamyou need super user to setup networking10:55
WarboIceTox: Use Synaptic (for all upgrades)10:55
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IceToxok then Warbo10:56
IceTox:(10:56
hyperstreamok so pm me what you have in your interfaces file10:56
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Warbohyperstream: But you don't need networking for single user mode10:56
ice_1963can i get Dapper Drake ?10:56
hyperstreamtrue. you dont.10:56
hyperstreambut i gather he wants to setup is networking yes ?10:56
davidwinterhas anyone installed Xgl/Compiz on Dapper? any who have - have you had things not 'render' correctly? and look a bit fuzzy10:56
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Warboice_1963: Yes, either upgrade breezy or install it fresh10:56
teletubbie!volume10:56
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, teletubbie10:56
hyperstreamdavidwinter, such as ?10:57
cens0redhi. I just re installed ubuntu breezy ... and I saved my .mozilla-thunderbird/ dir in a tar. Any tips for importing settings, mail, addressbook from it?10:57
teletubbie!volumecontrol10:57
ubotuteletubbie: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:57
Warbodavidwinter: I found it smoother than normal (except xine playback, which is hopeless)10:57
davidwinterhyperstream: well, the top menu bar, for example, the Places button wasn't visible10:57
davidwinterit had some funky colours all over it10:57
CarNagEWhich window manager could you recommend for use on my laptop (350 MHz and only 128 MB of RAM)?10:58
davidwinterand the same with firefox10:58
davidwinteryou could make out the main window, but within, only a few buttons were visible10:58
WarboCarNagE: Fluxbox, WindowMaker, E1610:58
hyperstreamdavidwinter, did you have a theme before installing xgl compiz for gnome ?10:58
davidwinterthe rest had some really weird effects all over it10:58
davidwinteronly the default one for Dapper10:58
hyperstreamhmm10:58
CarNagEWarbo: Thanks, will try em.10:58
hyperstream#ubuntu-xgl10:58
ahmeniCarNagE: Do you like your mouse?  If you hate it, ion3 is a godsend and lightweight10:59
hyperstreamis the channel10:59
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davidwintercool - thanks hyperstream10:59
CarNagEahmeni: Yes, I like my mouse :)10:59
hyperstreamand #ubuntu+1 for dapper issues. :)10:59
hyperstreamno worries10:59
WarboCarNagE: Don't confuse E16 with E17! (E17 will not run well on such a system)10:59
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tombshi all11:00
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Warbotombs: Hi11:00
teletubbiehow do I specify how many kb of ram my videocard uses?11:00
bifodushi11:01
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Warbobifodus: hi11:01
bifodusdoes anyone know how i could speed up the "Configuring network interfaces" portion of the ubuntu startup?11:01
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Warbobifodus: It is checking for any reply to DHCP. If you know you don't use DHCP then you don't need it11:01
bliss1_ompaul@ i have applied11:01
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Warbobifodus: I don't know how to turn it off though :(11:02
bifodusyeah...i'm using DHCP, though...it just seems unusually long11:02
bifoduswhen it finishes I get an 'ok' at least11:02
ompaulbliss1_, ack11:02
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Warbobifodus: I usually get an ip within two bounces of the Networking progressbar11:03
ice_1963were can i DL Dapper Drake from?11:04
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bifodusI just tested that by deactivating eth0 and then reactivating it in Connection Properties, and doing that only takes a few seconds11:04
bifoduscould it have anything to do with wifi?11:05
bifodus(forgot to mention i'm on a laptop)11:05
Warboice_1963: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight611:05
Warbobifodus: Maybe it tries every network device. One replies straight away but it has to wait for the other (wired and wireless)11:05
AlthQuick question everyone...what's the quickest way to find out my ip in the console? EG windows ipconfig.11:06
bifodusyeah, i think you're probably right, Warbo11:06
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WarboAlth: ifconfig11:06
fyrestrtrAlth: ifconfig eth011:06
bifodusreactivating wlan0 just fails11:06
AlthThanks :)11:06
bifoduswell, doesn't fail, but takes forever11:07
bifodusthanks for the idea Warbo..i'll try deactivating wifi and rebooting11:07
bliss1_ompaul; nicks will not know what hit them11:07
AlthHmm, I can ping the Linux box from the windows, but can't get them to network :\11:07
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WarboAlth: Windows doesn't play nice with standard TCP/IP. You need Samba11:08
IceToxWarbo, when i've installed the new *.11 kernel, I just need a reboot and it's done?11:08
Alth<Warbo> Alth: Windows doesn't play nice with standard TCP/IP. You need Samba <-- Noob talk please :P11:08
linnuxxyi have a virgin ubuntu 5.04 installation, how to upgrate firefox to 1.5.x?11:08
hyperstream!samba11:08
ubotufrom memory, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html11:08
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WarboIceTox: You don't really need to reboot unless you need access to the new kernel, but yes a reboot will let you access the new kernel (it will have a new option in GRUB)11:08
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linnuxxyi've tryed apt-get upgrade firefox11:09
IceToxlinnuxxy, I believe "sudo apt-get install firefox" would solve that problem. This would update it to the newest version :-)11:09
FlannelKinglinnuxxy: any reason youre still on 5.04?11:09
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WarboIceTox: Firefox 1.5 isn't in any stable at the moment, and 5.04 is a long way off. he needs a different repository or something11:10
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linnuxxyi cant download the new version, my net is sucks11:10
bifodusthat was much faster11:10
IceToxWarbo, It is in the debian sources. it's not in ubuntu's?11:10
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bliss1_if i run the qemu and kqemu its it correct to think the bigger the swap partition the more virtual memory ?11:11
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FlannelKingIceTox: 1.5 is in dapper, not Breezy, and definately not Hoary11:11
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KenSentMehi, i have a problem with ekiga on ubuntu, anyone uses this program?11:11
agliv5Greetings all :)  Does anyone know of a good FAQs site for running off a LiveCD?  Haven't been able to find what I'm looking for yet...11:11
WarboIceTox: I assume it is in Sid (unstable) and probably Etch (testing), but that is dodgy to use on Ubuntu. It is in Dapper though. Maybe a full upgrade to breezy, then a full upgrade to dapper will do (but on slow internet would be annoying for 1 app)11:12
linnuxxyIceToxi got the fellowing error "E: Couldn't find package firefox"11:12
linnuxxyIceTox: i got the fellowing error "E: Couldn't find package firefox"11:12
Warbolinnuxxy: It is probably mozilla-firefox, but it won't be 1.5 anyway11:12
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FlannelKinglinnuxxy: once june1 rolls around, you'll definately want to be asking for a pressed CD ;)11:12
IceToxwell, linnuxxy you talk to FlannelKing or Warbo.. it seems I'm really not updated on this breezy ubuntu thingie :-)11:12
WarboIceTox: Try using Synaptic. That will update your Breezy :)11:13
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agliv5Anyone?  FAQs?   LiveCD?11:13
bliss1__hi11:13
agliv5Greetings bliss1_11:13
agliv5:)11:14
burnshi11:14
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Warboagliv5: Sorry. KNOPPIX is a VERY popular LiveCD, so maybe you would find more on that? Doesn't contain same stuff as Ubuntu, but some principles apply (read only, etc)11:14
bliss1__agliv5: hi twice11:14
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IceToxI'm used to apt-get Warbo.. I'm lazy :-)11:15
bobyfixerwill 6.06 be realeased as an expresso livecd ?11:15
FlannelKingexpresso?11:15
Alth?11:15
ompaulagliv5, what do you want to know about, data persistance so you can run it with a stick?11:15
_nirmalkanotix very clever11:15
agliv5Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find any FAQs specific to running a liveCD...  I try looking for knoppix11:15
WarboIceTox: Ermm... First time I've heard command line reffered to as the lazy option11:15
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hyperstreamhow do i setup a samba share so that when a windows box accesses the share it doesnt require a username and pass(as if it was a windows share)11:16
agliv5ompaul I want to mount my harddrives, but don't know how...11:16
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bliss1__what virtual sotware would anyone recommend to run on a labtop , vmware, eqmu, xen?11:16
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FlannelKingbobyfixer: yes, espresso will be available for dapper11:17
IceToxWarbo, well, it's the way i learned it using debian :-)11:17
_nirmalyou require more RAM for running  virtual software11:17
ice_1963i like command line i use irssi :-)11:17
Warbobliss1__: XEN isn't in Ubuntu, you'd have to set it up yourself (hard). VMWare may be a bit restrictive if you don't pay, QEmu is not the fastest, but quite good (get KQemu)11:17
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ompaulagliv5, what is on them windows? (you do realise that writing to ntfs from Linux is very dangerous to the ntfs, you can thank MS for keeping the standard closed)11:18
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munti78When typing "crontab -e" in Terminal it opens in nano, how can I open it in VIM?11:18
Warboompaul: I think writing to NTFS is safe, but unreliable (if it doesn't work then the drive isn't changed)11:18
hyperstreamompaul,  using the ntfs.sys and loading it thru winex its now possible i was reading somewhere11:18
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[Wiebel] Hi11:19
bliss1__Warbo: hard as in source?11:19
agliv5ompaul I had Ubuntu installed and messed it up somehow, so now I want to save my personal data and reinstall11:19
Warbohyperstream: I wouldn't trust WINE with system functions11:19
[Wiebel] is there an official howto to get xinerama working in ubuntu?11:19
hyperstream[Wiebel] ,  i would :)11:19
ompaulagliv5, ahh that is a lot easier join me in #agliv1234511:19
munti78Anyone?11:19
Warbobliss1__: It has to be built into the kernel and stuff11:19
[Wiebel] hyperstream: you would what? :P11:19
agliv5Warbo NTFS is standardly mounted as read-only11:19
cafuego[Wiebel] : plug 'xunerama' into the wiki and see what tutns up.11:19
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Warbomunti78: Set your Editor variable I think11:19
hyperstreameek that was directed at Warbo  :)11:19
cafuegobut minus the typo3s11:19
[Wiebel] <nitwit mode> what wiki</nitwit mode>11:20
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FlannelKing[Wiebel] : wiki.ubuntu.com11:20
bliss1__Warbo: the bigger the swap partition the more virtual memory is this true?11:20
Warboagliv5: I know it is read only, but FUSE has some stuff on the go11:20
FlannelKing[Wiebel] : also check the forums (ubuntuforums.org)11:20
cafuego[Wiebel] : Tsssk...11:21
cafuego[Wiebel] : incidentally, #ubuntu-nl11:21
[Wiebel] :)11:21
Warbobliss1__: I would assume so. I know for Qemu you have to unmount /dev/shm and remount it bigger to use more RAM in Qemu11:21
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ompaulagliv5, join me in channel >> #agliv12345 << just click on it in xchat11:21
agliv5Warbo I do have some stuff on NTFS but would prefer burning to DVD-RW then formating the drives and then reinstating the data from the DVDs11:22
munti78Warbo: Where do I do that?11:22
munti78When typing "crontab -e" in Terminal it opens in nano, how can I open it in VIM?11:22
IceToxbrb.. reboot of network...11:22
Warboagliv5: That's what I would recommend. I was just trying to "big up the NTFS massif"11:22
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bliss1__Warbo: i have been told you can run windows in qemu and the acclelorator kqemu does this apply to windows server?11:23
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munti78Found it: export EDITOR vim11:24
_tylerhow do i compress something for .aiz11:24
Warbomunti78: not sure sorry. Maybe getting rid of nano package?11:24
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Warbobliss1__: I would assume so. I have run Win 98 incredibly well (as in, it ran like on a PC, not that Win 98 is good :)) but I could never get Win XP to load, probably not powerful enough11:25
Warbobliss1__: The more powerful your system the more powerful you can emulate11:25
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bliss1_Warbo; iyou mean RAM or cpu power11:26
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xiaoyuwhere is gnome's menu config file11:26
Warbobliss1_: I think RAM more than CPU, as when I emulate things they report my actual CPU speed, but far less RAM than I have11:27
mcnutcaseIs anyone else having trouble with Firefox as a result of the latest update?11:27
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Warbomcnutcase: Well I've only opened it once so far, but no11:27
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mcnutcaseOh great, that means it's me personally it hates.11:28
munti78How do I find the location (full path) to php-cli?11:28
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Cicero_munti78, locate php11:28
teletubbiefinally got mixing working :)11:28
bliss1_Warbo what I have done thus far is followed a howto but I use 0.8.0  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6669411:28
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WarboAAA! Firefox doesn't load links which open it. just gives me a home page11:29
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davromunti78: or, whereis php11:29
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cagecould anyone help me with a ndiswrapper problem ? i just made "make install" work but get following error11:30
cageCan't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build;11:30
cage  give the path to kernel build directory with11:30
cage  KBUILD=<path> argument to make11:30
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munti78davro: Thanks, worked great11:30
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Warbobliss1_: That guide seems fine. That's how I built Qemu. The only problem is I can't get Kqemu to load automatically. I'll see what this guide says11:31
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bliss1_Warbo: frogzoo has a script11:32
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AlthOk, so, to whoever told me I needed Samba for my windows box...one windows box is working fine. The other isn't. :\11:32
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bliss1_gnomefreak;  hi,you are very welcome11:32
lockheadwhat should i use to watch .wmv and .mov in buntu?11:33
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_tylerI need .aiz plugins to use on this karabra thing... how can i compress something like that?11:33
Warbobliss1_: That networking is quite thorough. I always used the -user-net (now replaced with -net user)11:33
lockheadcurrently using vlc, wich with .wmv gives no picture, and with .mov no sound11:34
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mcnutcaseGah. Even a complete removal hasn't fixed it, and everyone else is saying "WFM". This is not happymaking.11:34
Warbolockhead: Usually whatever player you prefer. try getting w32codecs11:34
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Warbomcnutcase: Is this Firefox?11:34
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lockheadok, thanks11:35
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mcnutcaseWarbo: the package is Mozilla-Firefox. The new version is conflictiong with the "FireFox" package...11:35
davrojust watched a .wmv using xine worked fine, not sure about .mov11:35
Warbomcnutcase: I was just going to ask a Firefoxy question. When I click on a link in GAIM (which I'm in now) it opens Firefox, but just displays home page. Also the same happens when I type into deskbar-applet11:36
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mcnutcaseWarbo: I'd help, but right now Firefox is completely up the spout for me.11:36
Warbo!tell lockhead about restrictedformats11:36
kgoetzdoes ubotu not reply to msg atm? hes igoring me :S11:37
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Warbolockhead: Did that work?11:37
gnomefreakbliss1_: good morning11:37
kgoetz!tell kgoetz about printing11:37
gnomefreak!botsnack11:37
ubotu:)11:37
kgoetzhi gnomefreak11:37
gnomefreakhi kgoetz11:37
Warbomcnutcase: This isn't a problem with the latest update, it's been happening before11:37
gnomefreakkgoetz: ubotuis fine11:37
kgoetz:)11:37
kgoetzhm.11:37
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kgoetzhm. getting replies now.11:38
kgoetzi probably identified during that tiem :)11:38
kgoetz*time11:38
mcnutcaseWarbo: any suggestions on how to get it working again? Right now, firefox won't even start...11:38
lockheadWarbo, working on it11:38
Warbomcnutcase: Errrrrr...... Epiphany?11:39
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Warbolockhead: I actually meant did you get the link :)11:39
cageif anyone can help with a compile problem, i'm trying to compile ndiswrapper (don't want to flood this chan all the time) PM plz11:39
Warbocage: www.pastebin.com11:39
lockheadyes i did, checking it out now11:39
Hobbseecage: what's the error you get?  pastebin it11:39
vinboyhow do I restart my X server without logging out??11:39
Warbovinboy: You can't11:39
Warbovinboy: that is the definition of restarting the X server11:40
vinboyWarbo: ok.. thx11:40
agliv5cage what problem are you having?11:40
mcnutcaseWarbo: not quite what I asked for, but I'll give it a prod...11:40
cagemake -C driver install11:40
cagemake[1] : Entering directory `/home/cage/ndiswrapper-1.14/driver'11:40
cagemake -C /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build SUBDIRS=/home/cage/ndiswrapper-1.14/driver \11:40
cage        DRIVER_VERSION=1.1411:40
cage/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found11:40
cage/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 12: gcc-3.4: command not found11:40
cagemake[2] : gcc-3.4: Command not found11:40
kgoetzffs11:40
cagemake[2] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386'11:40
fyrestrtrhas anyone tried to compile wine from source?11:40
cage  LD      /home/cage/ndiswrapper-1.14/driver/built-in.o11:40
cage  CC [M]   /home/cage/ndiswrapper-1.14/driver/hal.o11:40
cage/bin/sh: gcc-3.4: command not found11:40
cagemake[3] : *** [/home/cage/ndiswrapper-1.14/driver/hal.o]  Error 12711:41
Warbovinboy: If you want to keep a (non graphical) program running then you may be able to make it a daemon (if it has that option)11:41
fyrestrtrwtf11:41
cagemake[2] : *** [_module_/home/cage/ndiswrapper-1.14/driver]  Error 211:41
cagemake[2] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386'11:41
_tylerI need .aiz plugins to use on this karabra thing... how can i compress something like that?11:41
cagemake[1] : *** [default]  Error 211:41
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cafuego!ops11:41
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee11:41
cagemake[1] : Leaving directory `/home/cage/ndiswrapper-1.14/driver'11:41
cagemake: *** [install]  Error 211:41
Warbocoge: www.pastebin.com just post us the URL11:41
cageoeps11:41
AlthBe right back. Rebooting.11:41
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cafuegocage: Stop pasting11:41
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fyrestrtrstop ffs11:41
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Warbocage: www.pastebin.com, just post us the URL11:41
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cafuegoWhen he comes back, can you tell him he doesn't need to compile ndsiwrapper?11:41
_tylerI need .aiz plugins to use on this karabra thing... how can i compress something like that?11:42
fyrestrtrguys, has anyone tried to compile wine? I am running into a gcc error -- /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext followed by collect2: ld returned 1 exit status and then winegcc: gcc failed.11:42
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Warbofyrestrtr: I comiled it from source ages ago. Took longer than Xorg and Linux put together11:42
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fyrestrtrWarbo: what version of gcc did you use?11:42
fyrestrtrmaybe its choking because my gcc version is 4.011:43
Warbofyrestrtr: I think I was on gcc-3.2 or something back then (on Fedora 1 I think)11:43
fyrestrtrmaybe I'll try it with an older gcc version11:43
Warbotyler: What is this aiz extension?11:43
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aloncan i run the chessmaster software with wine?11:43
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fyrestrtralon: appdb.winehq.org -- search there11:44
Warboalon: I don't know, why don't you have a go and tell WINE developers if it works11:44
AlphaFactionHi guys, Ive just upgraded from a Geforce 4mx440 to a Geforce 6600GT and now gnome is not working as it should, any ideas?11:45
fyrestrtrwhat is the enviornment variable to change the gcc version?11:45
Hobbseecage:  DO NOT PASTE IN HERE!  www.pastebin.com  you shouldnt need to compile ndiswrapper, but if you do, follow wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto and follow *all* of the steps.11:45
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fyrestrtrtemporarily change it :)11:45
kgoetzfyrestrtr, tryed 'sudo apt-get build-dep wine'?11:45
WarboAlphaFaction: Is it logging in at least?11:45
kgoetzCC and GCC iirc11:45
bliss1_Warbo: -user-net (now replaced with -net user) is this in the howto?11:45
fyrestrtrkgoetz: hrmm, not I did the non-ubuntu thing and manually installed deps11:45
Warbofyrestrtr: I always link /usr/bin/gcc to /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 anyway11:46
kgoetzok.11:46
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AlphaFactionWarbo: yeah it is, it gets to the desktop then hangs (well the cusor moves but the kb dies and i cant click on any icons)11:46
fyrestrtrkgoetz: because I need a version of wine that is not in the repos11:46
fyrestrtrAlphaFaction: first place to check -- Xorg.0.log11:46
Warbobliss1_: It is not in that howto, because their method is better (but I was on my own when finding this out and -user-net was the easiest to set up, but no where near the best)11:46
ahmeniWhat package is startx in?11:47
AlphaFactionfyrestrtr: thanks mate11:47
WarboAlphaFaction: I guess you're on nvidia driver (no point upgrading graphics card otherwise) Have you tried nv one? Does it have any problems?11:47
AlphaFactionWarbo: not yet, ill try that soon i think11:48
bliss1_Warbo; i have script somewhere but how to use it on bootup just a sec let me look11:48
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WarboAlphaFaction: It should work *but obviously you won't get your 3D stuff)11:48
WarboAlphaFaction: Are you in Dapper by any chance? Lots of problems today11:49
monstroussomeone knows if the beta-download of dapper drake is released yet?11:49
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Hobbseemonstrous: not yet11:49
monstrouswould it be placed here http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/ ?11:49
monstrousor somewhere else?11:49
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AlphaFactionWarbo: nah im not11:49
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Hobbseemonstrous: cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/somethingorother11:50
AlthMy two damn computers can ping each other but won't network :(11:50
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bliss1_Warbo: i will put it in a pastbin see if it works for you11:50
budak^kampunghi11:50
fyrestrtrWarbo: how do I (temporarily) enable the use of gcc-3.4? export GCC='/usr/bin/gcc-3.4' ?11:50
WarboAlphaFaction: OK (they just upgraded to latest driver, few different directories needed 'cos of Xorg 7)11:50
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budak^kampunganyone can help me?11:50
monstrousthx :)11:50
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budak^kampungi want to know how to using wine11:50
visik7anyone is able to use debootstrp ?11:50
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AlphaFactionWarbo: thanks heaps for all the help11:51
budak^kampungi have install wine11:51
Warbofyrestrtr: Install the gcc-3.4 package and point the /usr/bin/gcc symbolic link to it (sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc)11:51
budak^kampungbut i don't know how to install appllication like photoshop using wine11:51
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AlphaFactionWarbo: im looking in the xorg log and ive got a few lines like this:" Warning: font renderer for ".pmf" already registered at priority 0"11:52
Trentonzerobudak^kampung : run the install program in the terminal with "wine setup.exe"11:52
Warbobudak^kampung: I doubt PhotoShop will work ,but it might. You should be able to double click the ".exe" files, but it is better to use a terminal to see what's going on. Go in a terminal (in Accessories) and type "wine /full/path/to/Adobe/Photoshop/Installer.exe"11:52
Trentonzero?11:52
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fyrestrtrwheee ... look at all the ./configure output go by so fast.11:53
WarboAlphaFaction: I think those are fine (I get stuff like that all the time)11:53
fyrestrtr./me pets his 1 GB RAM11:53
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AlphaFactionWarbo: how about "Symbol __glXgetActiveScreen from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved!"11:54
WarboDoes anyone know how to tell the kernel about WINE? In Fedora you can run ./setup.exe and it gets redirected to WINE (like Linux can now do with Java and stuff)11:54
bliss1_Warbo here it is11:54
WarboAlphaFaction: That seems a little more serious. Are you using Ubuntu's package of the driver or the one from nvidia.com?11:55
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Warbobliss1_: Er. No link?11:55
Hmmmmim trying to configure an HP laserjet 8000 with my kubuntu installation. no joi. anyone been there done that?11:55
AlphaFactionWarbo: Im runing ubuntus package11:55
fyrestrtrWarbo: any clue what is this? /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext ??11:55
cagehttp://pastebin.com/670986   sorry about the flood before11:55
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WarboAlphaFaction: Should be fine then. Don't understand the problem11:56
budak^kampungi want to install photoshop from cd11:57
budak^kampung. i have type wine /cdrom0/Adobe_Photoshop_v.6.0_Final_Retail/Setup.exe11:57
budak^kampung, but 'there is no such file or directory11:57
Warbofyrestrtr: From the man page it is the "GNU linker", but I have no idea about programming, sorry :(11:57
bliss1_Warbo; http://pastebin.ca/50109 not sure how to put inplace so it happens on boot11:57
fyrestrtrWarbo: ah I think I got it.11:57
budak^kampunganybody knows?11:58
Warbobudak^kampung: Make sure you type it properly. If you type "ls /" you can see what is in / (remember, things are case sensitive) then "ls/cdrom0" will show you what is in there, if it exists. You may be better off with /media/cdrom though11:58
Warbobliss1_: /etc/init.d make a file in there then run update-rc.d11:58
Warbobliss1_: Thanks, I'll try it later12:00
Trentonzerobudak^kampung, are the _ in the directory blank spaces are actual underscores12:00
Trentonzero?12:00
fyrestrtrWarbo: yeah, I was missing a developer library12:00
budak^kampungno12:00
bliss1_Warbo: so name the file kqemu put it in /etc/init.d then update-rc.d  kqemu ?does the script look ok?12:01
davroIm looking to buy a 20" LaCie 130702 TFT monitor just wondered if anyone is using a LaCie monitor with success12:01
Trentonzerothe directory is "Adobe Photoshop" or "Adobe_Photoshop"?12:01
fyrestrtrbudak^kampung: is your cdrom mounted?12:01
budak^kampungi don't know because i'm quite beginner12:02
Warbobliss1_: Yes it looks fine (too complex for me to write on my own, but I can follow it)12:02
budak^kampungTrentonzero,there is no '_' in the cd directory12:02
fyrestrtrdavro: monitors aren't a big problem, just get the refresh rates right and they pretty much work.12:02
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budak^kampungthe directory name is Adobe Photoshop V.6.0 Final Retail12:03
Trentonzerotake out the _12:03
bliss1_Warbo: do you have to make the files an exe as in  chmod +x kqemu.sh12:03
Warbobudak^kampung: OK, I was assuming the directory would be easy to type. A better way would be this: type "cd /"12:03
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fyrestrtrbudak^kampung: wine "/cdrom0/Adobe Photoshop V.6.0 Final Retail/Setup.exe"12:03
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Warbobliss1_: I think so12:03
Trentonzerotype :  wine " Adobe Photoshop V.6.0 Final Retail/setup.exe"12:03
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Trentonzeroor just go to the directory with cd ...thats good too12:04
bliss1_Warbo: it would be good to know for sure12:04
budak^kampunginclude " mark?12:04
Trentonzeroyes, use the quote marks12:04
fyrestrtrbudak^kampung: yes12:04
Warbobudak^kampung: Then type "cd thenextfolder" then "cd thenextfolder" until you are there. Finally just type "wine setup.exe"12:04
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davroFair enough, have been quite impressed with the LaCie range just wondered, suppose the driver support is at the graphic card level, slaps self across face.12:04
fyrestrtrdavro: heh :) it happens.12:05
Warbobudak^kampung: Do you have the Universe packages enabled?12:05
budak^kampunguniverse package?12:05
budak^kampunghow can i know?12:05
budak^kampungi'm sorry if my english broken12:05
budak^kampunghehehe12:05
Trentonzeroits ok budak, you are coming across fine12:06
Warbobudak^kampung: Universe is a load of extra software for Ubuntu. There is a package called "nautilus-open-terminal" which will save you all of the typing12:06
lappwww.24freesex.com12:07
davroNot to worry most English people speak using broken english slang anyway.12:07
budak^kampungoo,how can i get the package?12:07
budak^kampungi'm malaysian12:07
budak^kampunganyone from malaysia?12:07
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cafuego!universe12:07
budak^kampung:)12:07
Warbobudak^kampung: Go into System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager12:07
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource12:07
budak^kampungok warbo.thene12:07
budak^kampungok warbo.then12:08
teletubbieany know how to set a background for nautilus?12:08
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Warbobudak^kampung: Inside there there is a menu Settings then Repositories12:08
cafuegonote, please don't ask for help on how to install illegal copies of photoshop.12:08
budak^kampungok,i got it warbo12:08
budak^kampungnext?12:08
Warboteletubbie: Desktop, right click on it. Windows, at the bottom of the Edit list (drag and drop)12:08
davrobudak^kampung: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list read the comments and uncomment the relevent line.12:09
Warbobudak^kampung: Click Add (hang on while I catch up with you)12:09
budak^kampungok12:09
budak^kampungnext warbo12:09
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noiesmowhen I try to apt-get install nvidia-glx i'm am incountering a dpkg-divert from when I had ati card but i am unable to remove diversion is there a way to force install or modify the diversions file in /var/lib/dpkg without getting unexpected EOF12:09
Warbobudak^kampung: OK, it should say something to do with Ubuntu in a drop down box and then some boxes with ticks12:09
budak^kampungyes12:10
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Warbobudak^kampung: Tick the boxes "Universe" and "Multiverse"12:10
bliss1_Warbo: did you find out exe or not12:10
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budak^kampungok12:10
AlthHey, my windows box just mounted itself! =o12:10
Warbobliss1_: Not yet sorry12:10
budak^kampungthere is 4 boxes12:10
Warbobudak^kampung: Now you should have all of the boxes ticked.12:10
Warbobudak^kampung: Click OK12:10
grayppwww.24freesex.com12:11
budak^kampungok,12:11
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Warbobudak^kampung: Then click OK again and you will get a message, say Yes12:11
budak^kampunggotcha!12:11
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femihey i downloaded xine to play mp3s but its not playing what can i do?12:11
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bliss1_ompaul; tells bliss1_ to behave12:11
budak^kampungdownloading progress12:12
Warbobudak^kampung: It should have downloaded some stuff. Now "Search" and put in "nautilus-open-terminal"12:12
budak^kampungThe following problems were found on your system:12:12
Warbobudak^kampung: Wait till it finishes :)12:12
budak^kampungW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages)12:12
budak^kampungW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://wine.sourceforge.net binary/ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/wine.sourceforge.net_apt_binary_Packages)12:12
fyrestrtr!tell femi about RestrictedFormats12:12
Warbobudak^kampung: Oh, that's fine (you have them on already!)12:12
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budak^kampungoo12:12
Warbobudak^kampung: Do the search for "nautilus-open-terminal"12:13
budak^kampungthen,what must i do warbo12:13
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femiwhat is it about restricted formats?12:13
budak^kampungwhere i can search nautilus open terminal?12:13
fyrestrtrfemi: read it, to find out how to enable mp3 playback12:13
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femihi fyrestrtr12:13
davromp3 is a restricted format12:13
Warbobudak^kampung: You should have 1 package come up in the search. Click the white box next to it and select "Mark for installation"12:13
budak^kampungis it inside synaptic package12:13
Warbobudak^kampung: In Synaptic there is a Search button at the top12:13
budak^kampungok12:14
Warbobudak^kampung: Make sure to put the - in between the words12:14
budak^kampunggot it12:14
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budak^kampungthick the box?12:14
noiesmoanyone help with dpkg-divert problem12:14
peopleeewww.erotica-toon.com12:14
femipls does it mean ubuntu linux does not play mp3s?12:15
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Warbobudak^kampung: So you have marked it (by clicking the white square and selecting mark for installation) then click Apply at the top12:15
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budak^kampungok,clear12:15
Warbofemi: Ubuntu will play MP3s, but not by default. You have to tell it to12:15
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newbie33how to install glade12:15
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Warbobudak^kampung: After clicking Apply you will get more downloading stuff. Wait for it to say complete12:15
femihow do i?12:15
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newbie33when I m trying to do it with synaptic, my x goes down..12:16
femiam sorry am very new to ubuntu12:16
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budak^kampungwarbo:ok complete12:16
Warbofemi: Ask someone to walk you through anabling Universe12:16
femican you, please?12:16
Warbobudak^kampung: OK, now in the file manager go into the CD and to where the installer is12:16
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Warbofemi: In the middle of something at the mo. Only take a sec12:17
budak^kampungwarbo:file manager?12:17
alonwhat is the problem if i get "internal failure - error number: 0x80040707" when i try to install chessmaster using yum?12:17
alon*using wine12:17
Warbobudak^kampung: Go in Places Computer and go into your CD all of the way to the Photoshop installer12:17
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davroto enable the universe/multiverse, sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list read the comments and uncomment the relevent lines in this configuration file.12:17
budak^kampungwarbo:ok,thene12:18
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budak^kampungwarbo:ok,then?12:18
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alonwhat is the problem if i get "internal failure - error number: 0x80040707" when i try to install chessmaster using wine?12:18
Warbobudak^kampung: Now when you right click in an empty part of that window (basically, not on a file) then there will be an option "Open In Terminal" Is that there?12:18
chetanhi all. i have a external harddrive and i want to access one of the folders in there. but ubuntu says that i dont have permission to modify it. can someone please help?12:18
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Trentonzerochetan, do it as root?  (not sure if this is best way)12:19
Warbochetan: Be with you in a minute12:19
chetanthanks12:20
budak^kampungwarbo:right click on setup.exe file?12:20
Warbobudak^kampung: Forget that, we need to do one more thing first12:20
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Warbobudak^kampung: In a terminal type "killall nautilus" without the quotes12:20
budak^kampungwarbo:ok12:20
alonwhat is the problem if i get "internal failure - error number: 0x80040707" when i try to install chessmaster using wine?12:20
budak^kampungi got problem with terminal,warbo12:21
AlthOk, question.12:21
budak^kampungblank screen12:21
Warbobudak^kampung: You will lose your icons for a sec, then get a home folder window. Close it and go back to where you were on the CD (next to setup.exe)12:21
AlthI apt-get'd synergy. And now I can't run the damn thing. I don't just type 'synergy'?12:21
AlthBecause that works for everything else :P12:21
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Warbobudak^kampung: Is it back yet? (We had to restart it when we added the new feature)12:22
haloohttp://www.sexoasis.com/12:22
budak^kampungwarbo:my terminal is not responding12:22
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Warbobudak^kampung: Hmmm. Try opening another one12:22
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budak^kampungwarbo:can you wait for me to restart my pc12:23
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Warbobudak^kampung: typing "killall gnome-terminal" kill close your terminals12:23
Warbobudak^kampung: You shouldn't really have to, but you can12:23
newbie33is version 5.04 very old?12:23
Warbochetan: Ready?12:23
chetanyeah12:23
Warbonewbie33: The 05 is the year, the 04 is the month12:24
chetanWarbo: yeah12:24
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newbie33is it posible to make global update/upgrade with one comand?12:24
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Warbochetan: OK. In a terminal (in accessories)  type "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"12:24
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kgoetzh.m Warty EOL today12:24
Warbonewbie33: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"12:25
AlthNo one's been able to help me with any of my questions so far >.>12:25
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chetanWarbo: i get "(gedit:2174): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:12:25
chetanAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.12:25
chetan" should i use just sudo instead12:25
Warbochetan: Yes, try that (are you in admin group?)12:26
iskywalker_hi! has someone tomcat running i dont know how to get it working...12:26
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chetanWarbo: i am the admin if thats what u mean12:26
Warbochetan: If gedit comes up then you can ignore any messages12:26
iskywalker_can someone point me a ubuntu apache2 tomcat tutorial?12:26
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chetanWarbo: got the gedit page12:27
chetanWarbo: i mean fstab12:27
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AlthDarn it. I installed Synergy via apt-get. How do I execute it? Stupid question I know. Anyone?12:27
mustard5iskywalker_, I don't know of any offhand12:27
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Warbochetan: OK. Copy one of the lines to the bottom (so you have an extra line to play about with)12:27
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iskywalker_Ath: sudo synaptic?12:28
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iskywalker_Alth:12:28
chetanWarbo: what do u mean? copy the file in a seperate place?12:28
Warboiskywalker_: Synergy is a keyboard/mouse thing12:28
iskywalker_argh12:28
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iskywalker_sorry misread12:28
Althsynergy: command not found.12:28
Warbochetan: No. Select a line (of the actual conetnt, not the column headings) copy, then move to the bottom and paste12:29
fyrestrtrthe command is synergyc12:29
fyrestrtrfor a client12:29
Warbocontent12:29
fyrestrtrread the docs for it please :)12:29
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`Theus`Hi all12:29
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AlthThanks fyrestrtr :)12:29
b0sehi... just wondering, has anyone died trying to disable the bash system bell?12:29
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newbie33how to change time showing from war time, to normal12:30
Warbob0se: Many computers have been hammered12:30
chetanWarbo: what do i copy cause i have quite a few things in the file...hda2, hda5, hdc,hbc,fd0,hda112:30
Warbochetan: Just copy any. Let's say hda1 line. We are going to change it (BTW, is this just a Pen Drive?)12:30
asxhttp://www.videosz.com/index.php?link_id=112:30
b0seWarbo, tell me the good news man... it is possible right?12:30
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Warbob0se: I honestly don't know12:31
Warbon0se: should be12:31
mustard5newbie33, in gnome?12:31
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chetanWarbo: its a buffalo external harddrive (250GB) its loading and everything i just dont have default write permissions for one of the folders12:31
newbie33mustard5,  solved thanks :)12:31
mustard5k12:31
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Warbochetan: OK that's even better. (I'm assuming you leave it in, 'cos this file gets run automatically at boot up)12:32
stylewalkahi folks, is there an possiblity with evolution to change a webcalendar ?12:32
b0seWarbo, i've been trying for hours... no success.. it's been driving me crazy beeping in the middle of lectures at uni12:32
chetanWarbo: yeah12:32
Warbochetan: Right, so you have a new line full of hda1 and things.12:32
chetanWarbo: yeah12:32
b0seif anyone has actually managed to disable the system bell, pls tell me about it12:33
Warbochetan: First change the hda1 to sda1 (I am assuming that it is the first partition on the disc, and that it is the first USB drive)12:33
Warbochetan: Do you already have an sda1 line above?12:33
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budak^kampungwarbo:i'm back12:34
Warbobudak^kampung: Hey. I'm in the middle of 2 walk-throughs now :)12:34
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Warbobudak^kampung: OK, go into your CD where the setup.exe is like before12:34
budak^kampungwarbo:sorry,my PC is too slow12:34
chetanWarbo: no12:34
budak^kampungwarbo:ok12:34
budak^kampungwarbo:next12:34
Warbochetan: No what? What drive is it (first USb, second USB, etc) what partition (by default first) and is there a line already?12:35
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chetanb0se: system-sound preferences- unclick sounds for events12:35
newbie33what mail program is the most similar to ms outlook express?12:35
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Warbobudak^kampung: Now if you right click (NOT on a file, in the empty space) you will have a menu and in that menu is "Open In Terminal"12:35
budak^kampungwarbo:yes,there is open in terminal12:36
bliss1_Warbo: i think it needs to be an exe file pretty sure12:36
chetanWarbo: ahh not sure i think its either hda5 or hda2,12:36
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b0sechetan, that works for X, but when i'm directly in a terminal, it still beeps like hell12:36
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Warbobudak^kampung: OK, go on that and you are in a terminal in the right place. In that terminal type "wine setup.exe" and that is it. The rest is up to WINE12:36
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chetanb0se-sorry dude thats the only way i know12:36
Warbochetan: If it is USB then it is sd something12:37
Warbochetan: Is it the only USB drive?12:37
b0sechetan, ok thanks anyway... maybe i can set a record for the longest time spent trying to disable it12:37
chetanWarbo: no i dont have any sd anywhere12:37
budak^kampungwarbo:it works :)12:37
chetanWarbo: yeah12:37
Warbob0se: I once started an infinite loop calling on the beeper, even closing the terminal didn't stop it!12:38
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Warbochetan: Right, so it is sda, and I will assume that it is the only partition.12:38
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Warbochetan: Back to the file: Change the hda1 in the new line to sda1.12:39
chetanWarbo: yeah its just one 250Gb partition in the external harddrive12:39
b0seWarbo, damn that sounds terrible..12:39
levanderI'm almost positive I installed the gnome-bin package for something I no longer want, but gnome-bin sounds like a dangerous one to remove.  Anybody know for sure if it's okay?12:39
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chetanWarbo: yep12:39
Warbochetan: Do you know if it is FAT32? "Can you open it in Windows?)12:39
chetanyeah its fat3212:39
chetanWarbo: yeah its fat3212:39
chetanWarbo: i can get it in windows as well12:39
Warbochetan: OK. In type replace what is on that line (probably ext3 or maybe NTFS if you are dual booting) with vfat12:40
teletubbiehow do you configure what port gnome bt client to use?12:40
chetanWarbo: yep12:41
chetanWarbo: dont i need to do a mkdir and everything to sent a mount point12:41
Warbochetan: In mount point you can put whatever you want (this is where you will access the files, you can even putit somewhere in your home [but NOT directly your home folder] )12:41
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Warbochetan: Yes, if the mount point doesn't exist you can mkdir it now (as root if youdon'tt have permission)12:42
Warbobudak^kampung: Are you OK now?12:42
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WarboHmm. That's rude12:43
budak^kampungwarbo:yes warbo.Now installing progress :)12:43
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Warbobudak^kampung: OK, just making sure :)12:43
budak^kampungwarbo: I appreciate ur concern :)12:43
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Warbobudak^kampung: no problem12:44
Warbosince chetan has skarpered12:44
budak^kampungwarbo:now 86%12:44
newbie33what ftp manager to use?12:44
Warbobudak^kampung: I'm suprised it's working. WINE has got a lot better recently12:44
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diegoyeaaaaaaaaa12:44
Warbonewbie33: gftp maybe?12:45
chetanWarbo: sorry my internet is buggy12:45
newbie33ok ill try12:45
Warbochetan: Hello12:45
chetanWarbo: yep12:45
chetanWarbo: sorry about that...did what u said12:45
Warbochetan: OK, you have a mountpoint (which exists) then the options (the important bit)12:45
chetanWarbo: yep12:46
Warbochetan: You will probably want to put (in this order) defaults,users,uid=yourusername,exec,rw exactly like that12:46
levanderCould somehow who hasn't built much, but does run gnome, see if they have the gnome-bin package installed?12:46
budak^kampungwarbo:i had problem with that CD. I need to try other CD12:46
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aLeSDhi all12:47
Warbobudak^kampung: Are you sure it is the CD? WINE is nowhere near perfect (like I said, I was suprised)12:47
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chetanWarbo: i was just wondering i already have a folder called HD-HBU2 which i am currently using to access my files from the external drive can i just add the mount point as that12:47
bliss1_hi12:47
budak^kampungwarbo:OK, finish12:47
aLeSDI changed my graphic card on my machine... and now X can't start. How could I reconfigure it ?12:48
levandernobody who's running gnome can check to see if they have the gnome-bin package installed??12:48
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b0seomg i suceeded! the last 3+ hours have not been wasted12:48
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Warbochetan: I wouldn't recommend putting a permanent mount (one in fstab) in /media. I would use /mnt instead, but you can put it anywhere12:48
b0sefor anyone who wants to disable system bell12:48
bliss1_Wardo; can you give me that update command for kqemu the full command line please12:48
budak^kampungwarbo:if i want to use photoshop, just type wine photoshop.exe?12:48
stephen_bankslevander: nope, i dont have it12:48
b0sethere is an option in /etc/inputrc12:48
gnomefreaklevander: what version of ubuntu?12:48
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levandergnomefreak: breezy12:48
Warbobliss1_: You meanthe boot one?12:48
geniusvicksMy laptop runs WIN XP. It has a DVD rom, how do I access that with my Ubuntu desktop?12:48
Merphyhi12:48
levanderstephen_banks: you're running breezy and GNOME?12:48
chetanWarbo: so i should create a folder in mnt?12:48
stephen_bankslevander: ah, im on dapper12:49
bliss1_Warbo; yep12:49
levandergnomefreak: what version you on?12:49
Merphywana heelp on ldap12:49
teletubbiewhy can't I install azureus through apt-get?12:49
teletubbie!azureus12:49
ubotuit has been said that azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo12:49
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levanderstephen_banks: thanks for checking12:49
stephen_bankslevander: no problem12:49
gnomefreaklevander: no its not installed by default but its in universe repo12:49
gnomefreaklevander: im on dapper12:49
levandergnomefreak: i'm going for it, i'm removing it...12:49
budak^kampungwarbo: how i can use photoshop?12:49
Warbobudak^kampung: If it has installed properly. But WINE has it's own "fake" windows drive. If you go into your Home folder and turn on Hidden Files (in View) then go in .wine, then drive_c, then Program Files, Adobe, it's in there (use the "open in terminal" trick once you are in there12:50
stephen_banksteletubbie: its a java app, you'll need to install all the other java stuff to get it working12:50
budak^kampungwarbo:what the command?12:50
gnomefreakteletubbie: azureus is a non-free app12:50
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teletubbieI thought it was a free app12:50
kbrooksgnomefreak: its free.12:50
Warbochetan: I would12:50
kbrooksgnomefreak: i can prove it12:50
Warbochetan: (sorry, writing a long reply)12:50
gnomefreakiirc azureus is only free as in free beer12:50
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gnomefreakits still under javas licencing12:50
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Warbobudak^kampung: Are you in there?12:51
CarNagEaLeSD: Go to a tty and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to reconfigure your xorg12:51
geniusvicksMy laptop runs WIN XP. It has a DVD rom, how do I access that with my Ubuntu desktop?12:51
kbrooksgnomefreak: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php12:51
ompaul!ntfs12:51
ubotufrom memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions12:51
aLeSDCarNagE: thanks12:51
ompaulgeniusvicks, ^^^12:51
kbrooksgnomefreak: click on the source link12:51
budak^kampungwarbo:there is no drive c12:51
teletubbieI got dependencies problem :\12:51
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chetanWarbo: no problem. so i use " defaults,users,uid=yourusername,exec,rw" instead of "vfat    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0"12:52
Warbobudak^kampung: In .wine? There should be (has an underscore in it) What is in there?12:52
geniusvicksompaul: what?12:52
gnomefreakkbrooks: that doesnt say anything about the licence12:52
Jokabahttp://www.gene-juice.com/galleries/060323/ggw1/index16.html12:52
bliss1_Wardo: its update-rc.d something12:52
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budak^kampungwarbo:got it12:52
ompaulgeniusvicks, ubotu from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions   (the ^^ is look up a line or three :-))12:52
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Warbochetan: Keep the 2 0s at the end (and put your own username in there!)12:52
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agliv5Greetings all :)   Is it possible to create an extra partition only for Ubuntu programms ie have OpenOffice and co installed on a seperate partition?12:53
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budak^kampungwarbo:there is photoshop.exe12:53
budak^kampunghow i can run it?12:53
chetanWarbo: lol yeah did that12:53
Warboagliv5: Maybe /usr or even better /usr/local (though would need some tweaking of packages)12:53
gnomefreakiirc azureus falls under java's licencing and that would make it _non-free_12:53
ompaulagliv5, they live in / you can have /usr /usr/local /usr/localbin but that is just easier to have /12:53
Warbobudak^kampung: Use the Open In Terminal like before and type "wine photoshop.exe"12:54
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budak^kampungwarbo:wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\photoshop.exe": Module not found12:54
budak^kampungsyahir@ubuntu:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Adobe/Photoshop 6.0$12:54
Warbochetan: OK. Save the file and you should be OK. First thing you do after exiting Gedit is "sudo umount /dev/sda1" then "sudo mount -a" andthen look in /mnt12:54
bliss1_Wardo /12:55
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CarNagEWardo: Thanks for your recommendation for fluxbox, it works great here!12:55
Warbobudak^kampung: Sorry, sounds like PhotoShop doesn't like WINE12:55
chetanWarbo: yeah its in the mnt folder now12:55
WarboCarNagE: Oh helping feels good12:55
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newbie33is such program, that would start and run windows exe files, somthing like emulator :)12:55
CarNagEHehe :)12:56
newbie33?12:56
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chetanWarbo: but i still dont have default write permission12:56
Warbonewbie33: WINE. Read what I was telling budak^kampung12:56
albertohola12:56
Warbochetan: ?12:56
alberto"hello"12:56
bliss1_Wardo: the command line for he update?12:56
budak^kampungwarbo:the file not photoshop.exe but photoshp.exe12:56
chetanWarbo: 2 of the folders in there dont allow me to modify it from the folder menu12:56
Warbochetan: Surely, with that option you should12:56
albertoI,m spanish12:57
Warbobudak^kampung: Oh, sorry. Does it work with the right spelling?12:57
Warbo!es12:57
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:57
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chetanWarbo: nah it still has the those little lock signs in the bottom left corner of the folder12:57
alberto?12:57
budak^kampungwarbo:nothing happen12:57
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agliv5Warbo so it is posible, but I'd have to tweek things a bit?12:57
ompaulagliv5, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1259412:57
chetanWarbo: everytime i try to move something it does allow me12:57
Warbochetan: Hmmmm. Try running mount with no options. Give me the line with sda1 in it12:57
budak^kampungwarbo:mybe my PC is running too slow12:58
kbrooksATTN12:58
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kbrooksAZ is indeed licensed under the GPL:12:58
bliss1_Warbo; ok i am going now12:58
geniusvicksompaul: no u have misunderstood. I have a desktop computer running Ubuntu and a Laptop running windows XP, in my desktop pc I want to use the DVD drive in my Laptop12:58
chetanWarbo: /dev/sda1       /media/Share  vfat    defaults,users,uid=chetan,exec,rw 0       012:58
Warbobudak^kampung: It should at least tell you if it goes wrong12:58
budak^kampungwarbo:If i want to install other programme,should i follow the same step?12:58
kbrooksAZ is indeed licensed under the GPL: http://sourceforge.net/projects/azureus'12:58
kbrooksAZ is indeed licensed under the GPL: http://sourceforge.net/projects/azureus12:58
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kbrooks</ATTN>12:59
budak^kampungwarbo: It doesn't say anything.hehehe :)12:59
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ompaulkbrooks, stop, and the java it needs is not always that way - bottom line your attn was ot12:59
Warbobudak^kampung: Yes. Go to where they are, use Open In Terminal then run their installer (like setup.exe) andthey will install in the Program Files folder somewhere12:59
kbrooksompaul: er?12:59
budak^kampungwarbo: Thanks a lot12:59
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kbrooksompaul: so azureus is nonfree?01:00
agliv5thanks for the link ompaul I get back with you when it comes time to repartition my HD ;)01:00
Warbochetan: Hang on01:00
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budak^kampungwarbo: I must leave to perform pray01:00
Warbobudak^kampung: See you. Good luck with your programs and stuff :)01:00
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budak^kampungwarbo:can u give ur email ,that i can contact if i got problem?01:00
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AlthDON'T DO IT WARBO! =O01:00
ompaulkbrooks, that is not what I said - what I am saying is that not all java implementations of java are free, and if it works with blackdown fine if not then you have something free dpending on non free this is for offtopic01:00
Alth:P01:00
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geniusvicksI have a desktop computer running Ubuntu and a Laptop running windows XP, in my desktop pc I want to use the DVD drive in my Laptop by creating a network or something of that kind01:02
ompaulgeniusvicks, don't think so01:02
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budak^kampungwarbo: if i want to uninstall it, how can i do?01:02
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ompaulgeniusvicks, please don't repeat that for 10/15 minutes people will take time talking to you _if_ they have an answer01:02
gnomefreaki could have sworn java made azureus but they dont make it some 3rd party makes it01:02
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Warbobudak^kampung: It should have it's own uninstall program. Run it in WINE (just like on Windows). Sometimes it is called something silly like Unwise.exe01:02
kbrooksgnomefreak: right01:02
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Deraawww.naughty-xxx-porn-girls.com www.24freesex.com http://www.videosz.com/index.php?link_id=1 http://www.gene-juice.com/galleries/060323/ggw1/index16.html http://www.al4a.com/links.html http://www.japxxx.com/unhun150/index.html http://www.kinky-cinema.com/freegals/agangels33/4276/index.htm http://www.enter4freestuff.com/01:03
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AlthYou guys get a lot of porn spams.01:03
Alth-s01:03
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MetaMorfoziS:)01:03
newbie33what the Ubugtu means? :)01:03
AlthWoot :D01:03
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BearPersonompaul, I'm faster ;-)01:03
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gnomefreakompaul: now would be a good time to run +r +f?01:03
budak^kampungwarbo:ok,thanks.01:03
geniusvicksok ompaul01:03
ahmeniEnter for free stuff?  Sounds like a quick step to herpes01:03
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stuckCan anyone here answer a quick Q?01:04
Hobbsee!+ask01:04
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.01:04
AlthTry us, stuck :)01:04
stuckWhat mode is Q?01:04
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ahmeni+q is owner, i think01:04
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Warbochetan: Hmmm. Having problems with findong the options01:04
AlthYeah. ~. Owner.01:04
stuckMY channel mode came +Q01:05
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kbrooksstuck:01:05
kbrooksahmeni:01:05
kbrooks+q on this network is a silence01:05
kbrooks+Q doesnt exist on here01:05
ahmeniahh, neat01:05
stuckhrmm01:05
kbrookscase matters01:05
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stuckthats odd, my channel is +Q01:06
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chetanWarbo: i original copied the files from a windows system. does that affect it in anyway (i dont think it shoudl cause i copied another buch of files from another windows computer and i can modify those without any problem)01:06
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stuckI guess i can -Q it01:06
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Warbochetan: I don't think so (what are the permissions on the files? Really they should be owned by you not root)01:07
=== gnomefreak hopes that will stop them :(
robhopefully, for a while..01:07
Vazxwww.naughty-xxx-porn-girls.com www.24freesex.com http://www.videosz.com/index.php?link_id=1 http://www.gene-juice.com/galleries/060323/ggw1/index16.html http://www.al4a.com/links.html http://www.japxxx.com/unhun150/index.html01:07
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Warborob: yay01:07
stuckyou guys still having problems i see01:07
chetanWarbo: it says in the permission options "File Owner - chetan" File Group-chetan01:07
Warbostuck: maybe01:07
robthey are getting smart01:08
Warbochetan: Then you chould be able to do what you want with them01:08
gnomefreakare they bots or just users spamming?01:08
chetanWarbo: everytime i try to move anything in it says "You do not have permissions to write to this folder."01:08
gnomefreakusers = pretty much never stop them unless ban set01:08
robspambots :)01:08
ompaulBearPerson, :-)01:08
ompaulBearPerson, +?01:09
Warbochetan: Check the permissionon that folder: does it have write and execute enabled?01:09
ompaulwhat do you think?01:09
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BearPersonompaul, hmm?01:09
Warbochetan: Maybe "sudo chown chetan /media/Share"01:09
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chetanWarbo: lol i am soo stupid it didnt have write enabled01:09
BearPersonI can't think much except "I can't swap out all the time" right now ;-)01:09
ompaulBearPerson, +r on the channel? would it work?01:09
chetanWarbo: yeah it works now thanks heaps :D01:09
Warbochetan: You're welcome01:10
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WarboMaybe I go out now like I was going to 3 hours ago01:10
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BearPersonompaul, no, unfortunately01:11
Warbobliss1_: Still want that script (sorry I forgot)01:11
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ompaulBearPerson, okay, thanks actually I see it now01:11
bliss1_Warbo: i gave you the script01:11
Warbobliss1_: But then asked for it01:11
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bliss1_Warbo: i need the line update01:12
munzirHi, I have 3 pc's behind a router. two linux and one windows. the router automagically made nat rules like01:12
Warbo?01:12
munzirIdx Type Interface       Outside Address                Inside Address                 Use01:12
munzir  1 NAPT Internet        96.50.33.43:51978             192.168.1.251:3142             101:12
munzirwhere that internal ip is the windows one. Why those nat rules are set to windows only?01:12
Seveasrob, why did you set +r? the bots identify themselves...01:12
robSeveas, not all of them do01:12
Seveasah01:12
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Seveaswe prefer to have +r only when needed, not all the time01:12
Warbomunzir: One machine at a time lets you have better control01:13
Seveas(and definitely not while the +f channel is on +i)01:13
bliss1_Warbo; its update-rc.d somethong/01:13
munzirWarbo: yes the question is which machine is choosen by default? I didn't made those rules01:14
Warbobliss1_: Oh THAT'S what you meant.01:14
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Warbomunzir: I wouldn't know the set up for your router sorry01:14
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Warbobliss1_: update-rc.d nameoffileininit.d defaults01:14
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WarboGrrrrr...01:15
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WarboAre they all just waking up or something?01:15
bliss1_Warbo: ok so update-rc.d kqemu.sh defaults01:15
harrisjHas anyone got a gnome menu with curves?01:15
Warbobliss1_: Should be (need sudo first though)01:16
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munzirWarbo: do you have any idea how can i figure out what those ports are used for?01:16
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notjoshis there some kind of init script for svnserve in /etc/init.d/ or some such?01:17
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Warbomunzir: Erm. Maybe. Netcat I think01:17
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Warbobliss1_: Did it run?01:18
ahmenimunzir: check /etc/services, lots of common ports in there01:18
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notjoshis there some kind of init script for svnserve in /etc/init.d/ or some such?01:19
=== notjosh noob :/
bliss1_Wardo; yep from rc0.d to rc5.d01:19
liloworking on a patch to services01:19
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munzirahmeni: no they are not :(01:20
liloah, different thing01:20
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lilothough one of the patches will probably cover it01:20
Seveassex01:21
UbugtuError: I tried to send you an empty message.01:21
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SeveasUbugtu, broken piece of crap01:21
robi didn't think it was working :)01:21
bungle!vnc01:21
ubotuhmm... vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)01:21
fyrestrtrhrmm, why is it that even though I have direct rendinging On, wine complains about missing opengl?01:21
ahmeniblah.. I hate not being able to pick between kde and gnome01:21
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Seveas@reload exploitban01:22
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robnice one01:22
SeveasBEWARE OF THA BOT!01:22
_jasonhey there is a valid package with por n in the title01:22
ompaulnotjosh, first off, please don't repast so much, second when people have answers they answer :-) this may help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SubVersion01:22
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pepsihi there01:22
pepsioh01:23
notjoshoh, sorry :/ i saw the topic about registering and realised i hadn't registered.. :/01:23
ompaulSeveas, congrats01:23
Seveas_jason, true, but since ther are quite a few pr0nspammers today, I prefer false positives 01:23
notjoshso i did, then pasted.. my bad :/01:23
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Warbopepsi: hi01:23
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_jasonSeveas: maybe you can make sure se.x/por.n is preceded by http/www?01:23
ompaul_jason, for one word that is used once every 100 days ...01:24
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Seveasgood call01:24
Seveas@reload exploitban01:24
Seveasompaul, pornview is a damn good imageviewer01:24
ompaulhehe01:24
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paxerm .. brilliant! I just made an alias porn='sudo apt-get upgarde' :-001:25
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Warbowhat happens ti IP address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx?01:25
rambo3make ig update && upgrade01:25
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gnomefreakSeveas: what word did you say to get kicked? was it p.o.r.n?01:26
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Seveasgnomefreak, no, I said "ubugtu is a freak" ;)01:26
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gnomefreakoh01:27
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ompaulSeveas, I was about to01:27
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paxgood call.01:27
ompaulyour just toooooo fast01:28
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paxhe's darn fast when he wants to.01:28
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Seveas*KILL SPREE*01:28
paxyano you're toooo lazy when you make .bash_aliases :-)01:28
notjoshhmmm, any idea how i can get svnserve (not libapache2-svn) running on system startup?01:29
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ompaul notjosh is the information not here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SubVersion (not that I looked :-))01:30
nathanjwhat do i need to do to amek nvidia work if i change my kernel?>01:31
notjoshnope, it just says how to execute the command yourself from commandline01:31
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notjoshbuuut, that would run the app as me, not as the user i want it to run as01:31
Warbonathanj: Depends how you made it. If you used normal ubuntu packages it should still work01:31
notjoshwhich breaks all sorts of permissions01:31
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nathanjWarbo: i used kernel-images-68601:32
Warbonathanj: Is your nvidia installed using the nvidia-glx package and things?01:32
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nathanjWarbo: yeah01:33
mustard5nathanj, the only issue you need to look out for is that the linux-restricted-modules (for the new kernel version) are loaded with the new kernel01:33
nathanjWarbo: but some reason after the reboot it whinged it could find the nvidia driver01:33
Warbonathanj: Then when it installs the newer kernel it should build the nvidia module for it as well01:33
nathanjmustard5: ahhh01:33
mustard5nathanj, normally thats pretty automatic01:33
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mustard5nathanj, if you use the linux kernel metapackage to install01:34
Warbonathanj: Maybe try installing the linux-restricted-modules-(new kernel)01:34
cafuegoWarbo: Only if the linux-restricted-modules-$ARCH package is installed.01:34
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Bizzyhey, how do i enable universe now?01:34
mustard5!repos01:34
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource01:34
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bliss1_hi01:34
mustard5hey bliss1_01:35
bliss1_Wardo: theres a new kqemu01:35
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bliss1_mustard5: hi how are things01:35
mustard5bliss1_, not too bad..took a few panadol for a headache and now I'm fine ;)01:35
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Warbobliss1_: Well unless it's loads better I'm fine01:36
Warbobliss1_: and it's a b01:36
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sfarwill anything break if i install firefox 1.0.8 (so i can get rid of the update notifyiing thing) when i already have firefox 1.5 installed?01:36
tupacubuntu-fr01:36
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Phdhd01:37
mustard5sfar, hard to say definitively :)01:37
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Pquit01:37
mustard5sfar, depends how firefox 1.5 was installed01:37
bliss1_Wardi it seems to make no diffrence with mu boot up the kernel mesage is same as before localhost kernel [4294694.763000]  KQEMU installed, max_instances=4 max_locked_mem=88856kB.01:37
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sfari followed the guide, mustard501:37
sfarso 1.0.7 is still installed01:37
mustard5sfar, I would assume they are two separate installations01:37
mustard5sfar, but don't quote me on that ;)01:38
Warbobliss1_: It's a b and and o. I can't really be bothered to rebuild it if there is no huge performance increase01:38
mustard5sfar, you might have to check what changes are made to your default browser settings afterwards I suppose01:38
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sfarhm, ill try :>01:38
sfarcant go THAT bad01:38
Warbosfar: You say that now...01:39
mustard5sfar, heheh..well...I dont' know about that :)01:39
bliss1_Warbo; i just followed the howto01:39
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ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion01:39
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newbie33is it posible to run install CD as repairer to reconfig everything?01:40
mustard5sfar, it might be easier to pin the version of firefox to 1.0.7 in synaptic01:40
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newbie33if loging to system isnt posible01:40
sfarnow you tell me01:40
sfar:)01:40
mustard5sfar, :)01:40
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mustard5sfar, well since its just he 'update thingy' thats annoying you :)01:40
bliss1_Warbo: the kernel message i posted did you see it01:40
Warbonewbie33: I would say you could force install all of the packages from disc, but I don't know if you can do it running FROM the disc01:40
sfarwell, seems like it worked.. 1.5 starts when i run "firefox"01:41
Warbobliss1_: Yes01:41
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newbie33Warbo, how to reconfigure it from console?01:41
newbie33I mean X if it would be broken01:41
bliss1_Warbo; whats mem=88856kb mean?01:41
khamaelwhat is the chmod number for read/write/execute for just the owner?01:42
digenkhamael, chmod 70001:42
newbie33khamael, 70001:42
Warbonewbie33: I would say that going in pool and using "sudo dpkg --force-all -i */*/*.deb" would work, but would be a very silly thing to do. And I don't know ifit would work from the install disc01:42
Warbobliss1_: I don't know. The RAM given to QEmu?01:43
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imperfect-I'm running dapper and I'm having some apt issues.. is there an easy solution for apt problems?01:44
Bizzyahh01:44
Bizzyty01:44
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khamaeldigen and newbie33: thanks01:44
digenkhamael, np01:44
Bizzycan i replace the gnome de with xfce4?01:44
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lflashlwht a gd fiewall for linux01:45
AAABizzy  sure, just install xfce4 and on the login screen just choose xfce401:45
_jason!firewall01:45
Bizzycan i set it as default?01:45
sfaryes Bizzy01:45
sfari think it will ask you when you log in01:45
AAAlflashl  http://smoothwall.org/get/01:45
_jasonlflashl: buntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic. :)01:46
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AAABizzy  yeah, it'll ask if you want it to be the default when you choose it01:46
Bizzyim just doin a full update + universe update01:46
imperfect-Anyone know why dapper seems to require the brail stuff?01:46
gravesonhow do i disabl dao ?01:46
sfarBizzy: download xubuntu-desktop01:46
lflashlwhats the apt-get name for firestater01:46
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[Wiebel] hmmz01:46
_jasonlflashl: firestarter01:46
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gnomefreaklflashl: apt-get install firestarter01:46
AAAlflashl  apt-cache search fire01:46
[Wiebel] gnome's autocompletion is pretty anoying default01:46
[Wiebel] if i type a path for example01:47
AAA[Wiebel]   that is bash completion01:47
WarboAAA: Don't discriminate against guarddog01:47
[Wiebel] i type /ho , it complets to /home and set the cursor behind the e01:47
[Wiebel] so if i type /home01:47
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[Wiebel] i get /homeme01:47
[Wiebel] but it doesnt do this always01:47
[Wiebel] somtimes it just select the remaining tekst01:48
[Wiebel] (as it should)01:48
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[Wiebel] so if someone knows a good way for fixing this... :)01:48
gnomefreak[Wiebel] : use ~/ instead of /ho01:48
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[Wiebel] gnomefreak: that's not the issue01:48
[Wiebel] it does that with everything01:48
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newbie33I have finished apt-get dist-upgrade on 5.04 what posible problems after reboot01:48
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AAAnewbie33  only one way to find out =p01:49
imperfect-[Wiebel]  : I'm guessing you just need to get used to completetion... cuz from what you're saying it's working as it should..01:49
newbie33:/01:49
[Wiebel] imperfect-: no01:49
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[Wiebel] it should do:01:49
[Wiebel] typeing /ho ; add me and select it and leave the curser where it is01:49
[Wiebel] s/type/typ/01:50
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_jason[Wiebel] : that doesn't seem to happen here... /ho gives me /home but me is highlighted so I type over if I want to or press tab to complete as is and go to the end01:50
gnomefreaknewbie33: from 5.04-5.10?01:50
sfar[Wiebel] : doesn't happen here either01:50
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[Wiebel] jarlev: that what it should do, sometimes it does sometimes it doesnt01:50
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AAAnewbie33  chances are you will be fine, did it install a new kernel as well? that would _may_ cause something not to work if you changed anything in your running kernel that the new one knows not about01:50
newbie33gnomefreak,  dont know in to what version just typed apt-get dist-upgrade01:50
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[Wiebel] er01:50
[Wiebel] er01:50
_jason[Wiebel] : when doesn't it?01:50
[Wiebel] _jason: hat what it should do, sometimes it does sometimes it doesnt01:50
gnomefreaknewbie33: was the upgrade from hoary to breezy?01:50
[Wiebel] _jason: work like it should01:51
newbie33hoary01:51
gnomefreaknewbie33: did you change sources list?01:51
[Wiebel] i tested with a new user01:51
[Wiebel] same issue01:51
newbie33no01:51
lflashli have a AMD 2200+ CPu so should i be using the 586 kernel?01:51
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_jason[Wiebel] : what program?01:51
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OlliKhi, all01:51
[Wiebel] _jason: gnome01:51
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gnomefreaknewbie33: than nothing will happen because you didnt change ubuntu versions01:51
AAA[Wiebel]   search around google, I have never tried to change such a thing01:51
[Wiebel] _jason: all gnome programs01:51
sfarsure you not got a folder named homeme ? :)01:51
sfaror a file01:51
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newbie33hmz01:52
gnomefreak!upgrade01:52
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ubotuupgrade is, like, totally, Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html01:52
_jason[Wiebel] : in all honesty, that's never happened to me... are you using breezy?01:52
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Belboz99Hey all, I'm having problem with the expr command in my bash scripts01:52
gnomefreaknewbie33: follow the wiki for breezy upgrade01:52
newbie33ok later01:52
Belboz99TTIMEDAYS=`expr $TTIME / 60.0 / 60.0 / 24.0` gives an error01:52
Belboz99expr: non-numeric argument is the error01:53
[Wiebel] _jason: breezy and dapper01:53
[Wiebel] both give me the same issue :/01:53
WarboBelboz99: Is TTIME already set?01:53
AAABelboz99  double quotes? not sure01:53
[Wiebel] _jason: i can't really pinpoint it01:53
Belboz99Warbro, yeah01:53
[Wiebel] that's the anoying thing01:53
_jason[Wiebel] : if that's happening, it sounds like a bug.  Can you figure out some sort of steps that lets you replciate it always?01:53
[Wiebel] _jason: not really :/01:54
[Wiebel] it random01:54
Belboz99the same command runs fine if I use Integer values01:54
Bizzehwoo, finaly got a SMP kernel runing under vmware01:54
Sp4rKywhen i do "dpkg-reconfigure usplash", i've the error "can't load dm_mod"01:54
imperfect-You're not accessing it via a ssh session or something right?01:54
Belboz99but of course my answer is way off :P01:54
Sp4rKyany idea ?01:54
imperfect-This couldn't be a terminal issue?01:54
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AAASp4rKy  sudo modprobe dm_mod ?01:55
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Sp4rKyAAA no module found01:55
WarboBelboz99: Hmmmm. I get same problem with `echo $(($TTIME/60.0/60.0/25.0))`01:55
AAASp4rKy  sounds like that is your problem. locate dm_mod01:56
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j0hannesgood morning01:57
[Wiebel] _jason: is there a way to "film" what you're doing on the desktop?01:57
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dartmolxhello everyone :)01:58
[Wiebel] s/film/record/01:58
Warbo[Wiebel] : A few. Istanbul, vnc2swf are the best01:58
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lflashlubuntu 2.6.12-9-386 does this mean i running a 386 kernel?01:58
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gnomefreaklflashl: yes01:59
[Wiebel] Warbo: thanks01:59
Warbolflashl: Yes, but it will work on anything up to and including amd6401:59
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AAASp4rKy  hrm. hold01:59
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lflashlshould i be running a 586 or 686 kernel on my AMD 2200+ for better performace01:59
Warbolflashl: You should run k7 for best performance02:00
Sp4rKyAAA, :/02:00
Belboz99lflashl:  you should use K702:00
imbrandonk702:00
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imbrandonapt-get install linux-k7 ;)02:00
lflashlis there a k7 kernel and if so whts the name02:00
newbie332.6.10-5-386 what it means?02:00
AAASp4rKy  lsmod|grep dm_mod  on my ubuntu system it is loaded are you running a custom kernel?  let me check something02:00
robnewbie33, kernel version, and its 38602:00
imbrandonlflashl: sudo apt-get install linux-k702:00
robcompatible that is02:00
gnomefreaknewbie33: that is the kernel02:01
newbie33how to know ubuntu version?02:01
sobbbberwhat p2p software would u recommend for ubuntu?02:01
rob uname -a02:01
gnomefreaknewbie33: lsb_release02:01
kgoetznewbie33, its a generic kernel02:01
gnomefreak-a02:01
Warbonewbie33: linux version and the type of computer it was made for (386 is generic PC)02:01
Bizzehjust set up a 64bit ubuntu, (k8 smp kernel) in vmware, with xfce4, and all the current updates. working like a charm :)02:01
imbrandonnewbie33: cat /etc/issue02:01
Sp4rKyAAA, yes, it's a custom kernel (2.6.16.5)02:01
gnomefreaknewbie33: lsb_release -a02:01
kgoetzimbrandon, hes running hoary it seems02:01
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newbie33Distributor ID: Ubuntu02:01
newbie33Description:    Ubuntu (The Hoary Hedgehog Release)02:01
newbie33Release:        5.0402:01
newbie33Codename:       hoary02:01
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newbie33so its old :(02:01
bliss1_hi02:01
imbrandonahhh kgoetz no "cat /etc/issue" is horray?02:02
kgoetz:)02:02
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kgoetzimbrandon, hm?02:02
imbrandongood call ;)02:02
newbie33how to UP it to newest stable version02:02
[Wiebel] Warbo: hmm02:02
kgoetz:)02:02
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lflashlhow do i make linux play a meida in the current program IE i wil playing a song and if i click on a new song it will bring up a new windows for the program02:02
[Wiebel] Warbo: how can i play the ogg files istanbul creates?02:02
bliss1_looking for this file in ubuntu `/etc/udev/permissions.d/50-udev.permissions not in /etc/udev02:02
[Wiebel] ow way02:02
[Wiebel] nvm02:02
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levanderif xubuntu-desktop (for xfce) supposed to ship with dapper now?02:03
imbrandonlflashl: sudo apt-get install mozill-mplayer02:03
levanderis xubuntu-desktop?*02:03
imbrandonlflashl: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer02:03
kbrookshmm02:03
Warbo[Wiebel] : Use any player that comes with Ubuntu (that's the one format they CAN play) but Istanbul has a habit of screwing up, so it may be corrupt02:03
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[Wiebel] istanbul freezes up :/02:03
kgoetzlevander, probably still in universe02:03
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AAASp4rKy  sounds like you are missing that module in your kernel config, I am not sure where it is in menuconfig, but you prolly need to just build that module.  I am still checking02:03
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levanderkgoetz: i thought that was one of the benefits of delaying dapper, they thought they could get xubuntu in02:04
kbrookslevander: nO.02:04
kbrooksNo.02:04
kbrookslevander: Polish, etc02:04
Sp4rKyAAA, ok, so i'll recompil my kernel :)02:04
kgoetzlevander, i'm not sure. tehy were *hoping to*02:04
kgoetzafaik02:04
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Warbo[Wiebel] : If you get x11vnc package and start it then you can broadcast your desktop to yourself. Use pyvnc2swf (not in repos I don't think) to record it to a swf (flash) file or a vnc session file, both of which can be converted to MPEG02:04
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kbrookslevander: dapper will be a enterpprise level release02:05
levanderkbrooks: you want me to go pull up the letter that that S. African Ubuntu Head guy wrote saying he wanted to get it in?02:05
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lflashlbefore i install my drivers for my nvidia card should i be doing anythign new to mu system02:05
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newbie33after dist-upgrade everything is perfect02:06
kgoetzlflashl, bring it up to date02:06
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Warbo[Wiebel] : pyvnc2swf is here if you want it http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/02:06
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DiKKyHy lol does online poker work with ubuntu lunix ? lol02:06
levanderkbrooks: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2006-March/000734.html02:06
newbie33now I would like tu upgrade ubuntu from 5.04 hoary to stable breezy version, hot to make it?02:06
gnomefreaknewbie33: what does uname -r say when typed in terminal?02:06
levander"Speaking of Xubuntu,  there is a main inclusion report under discussion02:06
levanderto make Xubuntu part of main, and to publish ISO's of Xubuntu. The extra02:06
WarboDiKKy: Some do02:06
levandertime makes this a more reasonable proposition.02:06
levander"02:06
DiKKywhich ones?02:06
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gnomefreaklevander: can we move this to #ubuntu-offtopic please02:07
WarboDiKKy: I think it was either Virgin or 888 that someone mentioned to me. Try Google02:07
levandergnomefreak: how is this offtopic?02:07
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newbie33gnomefreak, root@tyla:/home/rkz # uname -r02:07
newbie332.6.10-6-38602:07
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kgoetzlevander, its not directly about support02:07
AAASp4rKy  yeah, sorry I wasn't of more assistance, but I firmly believe you just need to enable that in your config and build _just that module_ should be quick. good luck02:07
kgoetzplease do go into -offtopic with it :)02:07
sobbbberwhat p2p software would u recommend for ubuntu?02:07
levanderit's about finding out what packages are in dapper, that's "support"02:07
kgoetz!info xubuntu-desktop02:08
ubotuxubuntu-desktop: (Xubuntu desktop system), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 1.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB02:08
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Warbolevander: Then it's #ubuntu+1 :)02:08
AAAsobbbber  apt-get =p02:08
gnomefreaknewbie33: your still using same version of ubuntu as you were before02:08
Sp4rKyAAA, ok i'll search , thx02:08
gnomefreaklevander: package.ubuntu.com02:08
kgoetzlevander, asking about packages is support, arguiing if some funny SA/Pome bloke wants them around isnt :D02:08
newbie33gnomefreak, yes, and Id like to upgrade it02:08
AAASp4rKy  you could also try using a 'stock' ubuntu kernel02:09
gnomefreaknewbie33: are you using gnome?02:09
Sp4rKyAAA, what's a stock kernel ?02:09
[Wiebel] Warbo: do i need to run VNC server to make a recording with vnc2swf?02:09
newbie33gnomefreak,  yes02:09
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gnomefreaknewbie33: type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop02:09
[Wiebel] or can i run it on my running desktop02:09
bliss1_gnomefreak: anyideas where i can find etc/udev/permissions.d/50-udev.permissions in ubuntu  did locate only can find /sbin/udev02:09
gnomefreaknewbie33: let me know when its done02:09
AAASp4rKy  one that you get from the repo's that you just install and boot to02:09
levanderkgoetz: you realize the SA/bloke guy is Mark Shuttleworth, the guy that started ubuntu, and if you're under the impression the conversation should stop, why do you keep bringing it back up?02:10
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newbie33ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.02:10
newbie330 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.02:10
gnomefreakbliss1_: if that is correct path than follow the path other wise im not sure02:10
Warbo[Wiebel] : You can use x11vnc to broadcast your current desktop to yourself. Good guide for it here (official) http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/pyvnc2swf.html02:10
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newbie33gnomefreak, ?02:10
Sp4rKyAAA, ok  , but i want swsusp2 so i have to recompil it02:10
DiKKyLol, i actually found this site http://www.compatiblepoker.com/ , Warbo02:10
kgoetzlevander, trust me, i know a fair bit about Mark, i went out of my way to meet him :)02:10
gnomefreaknewbie33: now type gksudo /etc/apt/sources.list02:10
gnomefreakoops02:10
[Wiebel] Warbo: thanks02:10
Sp4rKyAAA and this kernel are very big and slow02:10
WarboDiKKy: Whatever floats your boat02:10
gnomefreaknewbie33: type gksudo gedit /etc/apt-sources.list02:10
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teletubbieon wi ndows I can transfer files over ssh at 1.8mbytes/sec but on gnome, I only get 400kb/s :\02:11
Warbo[Wiebel] : (go up in the directories to find the download)02:11
teletubbiehow's that posible?02:11
newbie33it should be source.list02:11
gnomefreaknewbie33: yes it should be02:11
gnomefreakis it newbie33 ?02:11
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cafuegochanserv is back02:11
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newbie33/etc/apt/source.list02:12
teletubbie02:12
gnomefreaknewbie33: it should brin gup the sources list file does it?02:12
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gnomefreaks/brin gup/bring up02:12
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Warbonewbie33: "cat /etc/apt/source.list" "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" which gives output?02:13
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newbie33Get:1 http://lt.archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release.gpg [189B] 02:13
newbie33Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release.gpg [189B] 02:13
newbie33Get:3 http://lt.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release.gpg [189B] 02:13
newbie33and so on02:13
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gnomefreaknewbie33: no02:13
gnomefreaknewbie33: type in terminal gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list02:13
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newbie33deb http://lt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted02:14
newbie33deb-src http://lt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted02:14
newbie33## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the02:14
newbie33## distribution.02:14
newbie33deb http://lt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted02:14
newbie33deb-src http://lt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted02:14
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gnomefreaknewbie33: stop pasting02:14
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newbie33ups02:14
BearPersonjeez, stop all those URLs please :)02:14
Warbonewbie33: You are updating to the latest HOARY. You want to update to BREEZY02:14
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newbie33Id like to have stable new version02:14
gnomefreaknewbie33: in that file please delete the word hoary from every line and in its place put the word breezy02:14
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newbie33ok02:15
r0bby_./window 4002:15
AAAr0bby_  you have 40 irc windows open?02:15
tonyyarussoOh not cool.  Today's update broke my Firefox launcher (1.5 diversion).  To the wiki!02:15
gnomefreaknewbie33: breezy is latest stable02:15
cafuegosudo sed --i "s/hoary/breezy/g" /etc/apt/sources.list02:15
cafuegoUm, drop a '-'02:15
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Seveasand add a -e02:16
gnomefreaklol02:16
newbie33gnomefreak, done02:16
gnomefreaknewbie33: click save02:16
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newbie33done02:16
gnomefreaknewbie33: than close out of the sources.list file02:16
newbie33apt-get update done too02:16
newbie33:)02:16
gnomefreaknewbie33: in terminal type sudo apt-get update02:16
gnomefreakok02:16
gnomefreaknow type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:16
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newbie33it will take some time02:17
gnomefreaknewbie33: there should be like hundreds of packages it wants to update maybe more thanhundreds02:17
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r0bby_AA, I have 70+ windows open02:17
newbie33ok thanks I will wait now02:18
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AAAr0bby_  what client? you have dcc blocked =p02:18
gnomefreaknewbie33: when its done reboot into the newest kernel you have it should be 2.6.12-10 iirc02:18
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r0bby_irssi02:18
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AAAr0bby_  w00. only the best02:19
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AAAand on that note, I will get in my cab02:19
zelexushi everyone!02:19
r0bby_bye02:19
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sobbbberAAA: what is the exact name of the P2P program?02:20
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gnomefreaksobbbber: you mean like limewire or frostwire?02:21
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vincenzDapper out?02:21
neodreamsnope02:21
gnomefreakvincenz: its in beta form02:21
gnomefreakvincenz: wont be out until june 1st02:21
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sobbbbergnomefreak: yes, exactly02:22
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vincenzgnomefreak: thank you02:22
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Alth<gnomefreak> vincenz: wont be out until june 1st <-- I thought it was May?02:23
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AlthOr at least, that's what shipit said >.>02:23
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vincenzAnyone know what version of ghc will ship in it02:24
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gnomefreakAlth: june 1st02:24
gnomefreakAlth: you can order from ship-it in may but they wont send them till june 1-202:25
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sobbbberany p2p program for ubuntu?02:25
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BurgerMannHi. I have some trouble making my speakers work on my new laptop. Sound card works fine, but no sound comes out. I tried PCLinuxOs and the speakers worked (except for everything else) How can I find the drivers?02:25
gnomefreaksobbbber: yes those 202:25
rggjanJust installed Ubuntu at a friend.02:25
gnomefreakubotu tell sobbbber about frostwire02:25
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cens0redjust upgraded my mainboard, and reinstalled breezy. Now I've got nothing coming out of the soundblaster. Can someone help me figure it out?02:25
rggjanEverithing worked fine including the network:02:25
gnomefreakubotu tell sobbbber about limewire02:25
dj-fuBurgerMann, `lspci|grep -i audio` search for those details on the alsa project websie 02:25
dj-fugtk-gnutella > limewire02:26
rggjanafter about 5 minutes or so it stops working02:26
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rggjanuntil I restart the computer02:26
rggjananyone knows, what the problem could be?02:26
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elad`On a system I have a user account in, but no root access, in my home directory, a file owned by someone else (a similarly priviledged user) sits. I want to change its owner and/or permissions. Help?02:27
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imperfect-Anyone know why ubuntu-desktop would depend upon brltty?02:27
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dj-fuso blind people can use terminals.02:27
donzaany news updating firefox to 1.5.0.2 in dapper repos?02:27
we2byon wi ndows I can transfer files over ssh at 1.8mbytes/sec but on gnome, I only get 400kb/s :\  any sugestion?02:27
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sobbbbergnomefreak: which would u recommend to be better, frostwire or limewire..?02:28
gnomefreakelad`: right click it go to properties and change it to write if not than you will have to use chmoh02:28
killianwhere can i get more repos from?02:28
gnomefreaksobbbber: i dont use either02:28
sobbbberoh.02:28
gnomefreakp2p is usless to me02:28
gnomefreakchmod even02:28
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elad`gnomefreak: It's 777 right now. I want to make it 705, and, if possible, mine.02:28
levanderdonza: packages.ubuntu.com to check02:28
donzai heard that the update fixes highly critical vulnerabilities02:28
vincenzwhere do I find out which packages will ship with dapper02:29
elad`chown eladalon *02:29
elad`chown: changing ownership of `allocate_free.c~': Operation not permitted02:29
gnomefreakelad`: sudo chmod 705 <path/to/file/filename02:29
tonyyarussoubotu: updatebrokeff is <reply> If the recent upgrade of the firefox package to 1.0.8 broke your launchers for a manually installed firefox 1.5, you need to do this to fix it: 'sudo ln -sf /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox'02:29
ubotuokay, tonyyarusso02:29
levanderdonza: ubuntu patches the breezy firefoxes with security fixes02:29
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elad`gnomefreak: But I don't have root access. It's my uni's computer.02:29
gnomefreakelad`: than you are not changing the permissions02:29
mdsI just started messing about with iptables, is there a syslog where I can have failures to connect logged to?02:29
elad`gnomefreak: Can I delete it?02:30
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BurgerManndj-fu, but the sound cards work fine, if I use a headset there's lots of sound. Isn't ALSA only the soundcard device ?02:30
donzalevander: and dapper also?02:30
elad`I can read it, so I can just copy its contents to a file of my own, and delete this one. Would there be any problem with that? Wait, fuck, why don't I just try. Hold tight.02:30
levanderdonza: i'm sure they'll do security patches in dapper02:30
gnomefreakelad`: not sure if its "owned" by sudoer and permissions are for him/her only i doubt it02:30
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gnomefreakelad`: language please02:31
dj-fuBurgerMann, if you use a headset it works, but if you plug speaker sinto the same jack it doesn't?02:31
BurgerManndj-fu, it's a laptop the speakers are embedded02:31
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dj-fuBurgerMann, I see. no idea.02:32
elad`It worked.02:32
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BurgerManndj-fu, thx amyway :)02:32
roni87hi all02:32
philstarhas anyone got the gnome 2.14 live cd to work?02:33
elad`Well, thanks anyway. Man, it's really silly that I can't just change the permissions of a file when I can obviously do it in a roundabout manner. Why not just have the shell go through all the trouble for me automatically? Or at least offer to?02:33
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elad`I'd add that feature if I could.02:33
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levanderelad`: because all that work would make the shell functions complicated and slow02:33
levanderelad`: better to keep it simple02:33
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elad`It's a minor computational hassle, and a major hassle for the user. I'd say that's the perfect candidate for an extra feature./02:34
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gnomefreakif i had to guess there was a reason the person didnt make it r+w for everyone02:34
Frogzooelad`: security is always a pain to deal with, but it's necessary02:34
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donzafor some reason firefox's own update system doesn't work even with using sudo02:35
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_jasondonza: what firefox version?02:36
njanelad`, security's just a nuisance, just ignore it. :P02:36
donza_jason: 1.5.0.1 in dapper02:36
Frogzoodonza: best soln is to chown -R the ff directory to your user & try again, then chmod -R back to root:root when you're done02:36
_jasondonza: #ubuntu+1 for dapper, but I believe that's a purposeful decision02:36
elad`gnomefreak: The guy is me, working from his account.02:36
binahow do you configure KDE to use two monitors (I've not decided whether to use two cards or just the two heads on the same card).  I tried it with two cards this morning but the monitor kept saying no signal for one of them02:36
elad`gnomefreak: Was, that is.02:37
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dg_wafternoon all02:37
donza_jason: ah.. ok.. i didnt know that02:37
orbinis ff1.0.8 from the repos equivalent to ff1.5.0.2?02:37
gnomefreakdonza: the ff updater is nto used in dapper02:37
donzaFrogzoo: i'll try that02:37
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Frogzoobina: do you have an ATI card?02:38
gnomefreakorbin: no 2 different engines02:38
gnomefreaksort of02:38
binaFrogzoo: yeah, Radeon 955002:38
donzagnomefreak: ok, thanks02:38
jendawhere can i find a list of ubuntu supported languages?02:38
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orbingnomefreak: really?  so it's not just ff packaged for ubuntu? :-/02:38
gnomefreakdonza: update your ff using sudo apt-get upgrade02:38
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[Wiebel] hmz02:38
Pulgokidoes anyone know if its still possible to get quake 3 for linux?02:38
[Wiebel] how do i tell totem to support mp3 en mpeg en wma and stuff?02:38
gnomefreakorbin: 1.5 has nothing to do with 1.0.anything02:38
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_jasonubotu: tell [Wiebel]  about multimedia02:39
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orbingnomefreak: i see. thanks02:39
[Wiebel] thanks02:39
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_jasonubotu: tell [Wiebel]  about mp302:39
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jenda!languages02:39
ubotuI guess languages is found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&value=languages&titlesearch=Titles02:39
binaFrogzoo: the other card was an old matrox mystique in PCI (radeon was in AGP).  There was power to the Radeon but nothing on the screen, so i took the mystique out and tried again and the radeon worked02:39
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Frogzoobina: install fglrx-control   & then try using fireglcontrolpanel02:40
binaFrogzoo: sweet I'll try that. Thanks02:40
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kickfaccecan someone tell me how to change what sound card is being used for xmms?02:40
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unixsshc mai facetzi?02:40
binaFrogzoo: Do you know whether I can use a DVI to VGA converter for use on a TFT screen, or does that only work with LCD02:40
robinl1how to get my Logitech S-510 to work with Ubuntu?02:41
FrogzooPulgoki: check winehq's appdb  -> winehq.org02:41
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kickfaccecan someone tell me how to change what sound card is being used for xmms?02:41
PulgokiFrogzoo: isnt there a linux version?02:41
roni87alsaconf02:41
Pulgokior at least used to be02:41
Pulgoki:|02:41
unixsshare u gay?02:41
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kickfacceroni87, xmms says that it isn't configured properly etc.. but vlc works fine02:41
gnomefreakunixssh: take that somewhere else please02:42
caligulahello02:42
roni87vlc ?? wat is that ?02:42
cafuego!info vlc02:42
FrogzooPulgoki: well then clearly there's your answer02:42
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB02:42
kickfacceroni87, nevermind i figured it out02:42
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caligulaCan anyone help me on the bloody wireless stuff?02:43
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unixsshmicrosoft rulzzz...lnx suckssss!!!02:43
PulgokiFrogzoo: where? ive been looking and can find info and talk of q3 for linux but cant find where to purchase it.02:43
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Hobbseeunixssh: is that necessary?02:43
FrogzooPulgoki: no idea02:43
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Pulgokime neither02:43
Pulgoki:p02:43
Pulgokii'll do more research02:43
Pulgokii havent installed wine yet02:43
Pulgokii may do that soon anyway02:43
kickfacceanyone have any idea why my monitor goes into power save while playing doom 3, quake 3, or quake 4 after 5 or 10 mins of play?02:43
robinl1how to get my Logitech S-510 to work with Ubuntu?02:44
unixsshwas a joke man!02:44
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unixsshbye02:44
caligulahello?02:44
caligulaanybody?02:44
robinl1how to get my Logitech S-510 to work with Ubuntu? (keyboard)02:44
Hobbseecaligula: hi02:44
gnomefreak!anybody02:44
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>02:44
lflashlis there a search engine for apt-get to look up program that i want to install with apt-get02:44
damian_any idea, when i try and compile php (not using apt) it'll give me an error about mysqllibs not being there (used apt-get to install all mysql packages) ?02:44
Hobbsee!tell caligula about wifi02:45
Hobbsee!tell caligula about wireless02:45
caligulathanks...02:45
gnomefreaklflashl: apt-cache search app02:45
gnomefreakreplace app with what your looking for02:45
gnomefreaklflashl: for a general look up use synaptic02:45
lflashlhow do i get into synaptic02:46
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kickfacceanyone have any idea why my monitor goes into power save while playing doom 3, quake 3, or quake 4 after 5 or 10 mins of play?02:46
sobbbberhi. i have downloaded FrostWire-4.10.9-1.i586.deb02:46
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sobbbber.. what should i do next?02:47
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orbinrobinl1: search the forum while you wait.  average chances really of finding someone in here w/ the exact same k/board02:47
ph8hey guys, i've done this manual install of firefox (as per the wiki) but now it wants to update the package, is there a way i can make it ignore all new firefox packages?02:47
fliegenderfroschlflashl, either with "synaptic" in the console or in the system-menu02:47
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Frogzoo_away!tell sobbbber about frostwire02:48
imbrandonlflashl: "sudo synaptic"02:48
tekN1xsobbbber: dpkg -i application.deb02:48
gnomefreaksobbbber: sudo dpkg -i frost<tab>02:48
jendawhere can i find a list of ubuntu supported languages?02:48
caligulafroswire is not working for me too02:48
kickfacceanyone here at all play doom 3 or any id software games on breezy?02:48
caligula*frostwire02:48
gnomefreakimbrandon: lflashl no dont use sudo synaptic02:48
caligulaI'm not using wine02:48
Frogzoo_away!tell caligula about frostwire02:48
robinl1orbin: i did, no answers02:49
gnomefreakimbrandon: lflashl to open synaptic use the menu entry if you _must_ from shell use gksudo02:49
imbrandonfor frostwire after you install the deb you need to edit the runFrost.sh and change it from dos format to unix02:49
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robinl1orbin: people requested answer, but nobody answered to their posts02:49
orbinkickfacce: don't know why it's happening, but check screensaver prefs02:49
Frogzoo_away!tell imbrandon about frostwire02:49
arrickmorning everyone02:49
orbinkickfacce: particularly the power stuff02:49
robinl1orbin: how to get extra keyboard keys to work on ubuntu?02:49
Frogzoo_awaymornit arrick02:49
kickfacceorbin, have done that same issue its not power save.. its just black in general i turned power save off on my monitor etc..02:49
arrickwhere is the Perl executable located?02:49
Frogzoo_away!bindkeys02:49
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Frogzoo_away02:49
gnomefreakiirc Frostewire is in deb form meaning it wont run on dos02:49
Frogzoo_away!bindkey02:50
imbrandongnomefreak: and the diffrentce between sudo synaptic and gksu snaptic is?02:50
ubotuFrogzoo_away: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:50
_jasonarrick: 'which perl'02:50
gnomefreak!gksudo02:50
ubotuUse gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.02:50
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imbrandonthat dosent mean sudo wont work or isnt good02:50
Frogzoo_away!keybinding02:50
ubotufrom memory, keybinding is console command  "gnome-keybinding-properties"    Need more info  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MultimediaKeys02:50
kickfacce!doom302:50
ubotukickfacce: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:50
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kickfacce!gaming02:50
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kickfacce02:50
orbinta Frogzoo02:50
arrick_jason, I am writing a script and it uses the "perl exeutable" on the webserver02:50
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gnomefreakimbrandon: can scramble you user account permissions is a very very bad thing02:51
orbinkickfacce: /msg bot please if you're just "fishing"02:51
orbins/bot/ubotu02:51
_jasonarrick: 'which perl' will give you the full path to the perl executable02:51
imbrandonumm that bug was fixed LONG ago gnomefreak02:51
arrickthanks02:51
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PolypterusHi. I've installed several new login manager themes, but none of them work. I get the message that they've crashed. Anyone know why this is happening?02:51
gnomefreakimbrandon: best for you i think to read up on rootsudo02:52
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elektronautwhat's a decent mail handler package for an ubuntu server? i need individual accounts for multiple domains02:52
ph8hey guys, i've done this manual install of firefox (as per the wiki) but now it wants to update the package, is there a way i can make it ignore all new firefox packages?02:52
kickfacceorbin, could it be something to do with the nvidia drivers i have installed? i read something about others having issues on ubuntu similar02:52
arrick_jason, how about the "sendmail" binary? or apaches version of it?02:52
sobbbberhow will i use dos2unix command?02:52
Pulgokiis there a command to show all installed packages?02:52
_jasonarrick: same02:52
gnomefreaksobbbber: if its a .deb why would you need to?02:52
arrickok thanks02:52
_jasonPulgoki: dpkg -l02:52
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Pulgokithanks02:52
ph8elektronaut: I'd recommend postfix02:52
Hektik_exilehello\02:52
imbrandonand by the way i know that debs dont work in dos mode but if you have been folling frostwire the deb has a bug in it, the runFrost.sh file is in DOS mode ( cr/lf ) and needs to be converted after the deb is installed02:53
orbinkickfacce: possibly.  i'm neither an nvidia owner nor a linux gamer, so i doubt i could help you. sorry02:53
ConfidentiaLis it possible to play windows games on ubuntu?02:53
kickfacceorbin, any ideas of channels i could get help in specific gaming on ubuntu?02:53
gnomefreakubotu tell ConfidentiaL about cedega02:53
KNAHello al . Im kinda new to linux but have got everything setup what i need but cant find out how to setp my wireless device . coud anyone maybe MSG me ? seems to be mutch activety in channel . hard to follow .02:53
Frogzoo_awayConfidentiaL: use wine02:54
gnomefreakkickfacce: depends on what the help is02:54
elektronautph8: great, thanks02:54
imbrandonsobbbber: nano the runFrost.sh and hit ctl + o then ctl + d and save the file, that will do the same thing as dos2unix02:54
PolypterusI've installed several new login manager themes, but none of them work. I get the message that they've crashed. Anyone know why this is happening?02:54
gnomefreakLinux_Junkie: looking for help on beating it use ubuntu-offtopic02:54
PolypterusUsing breezy badger02:54
kickfaccegnomefreak, well when i play any 3d games my monitor goes black about 10 mins in a game02:54
arrick_jason, I get no sendmail, or even mail location, does that mean I dont have it?02:54
orbinkickfacce: forum section on gaming is a good bet02:54
Hektik_exileUbuntu 5.10 stops while I'm loading the live disc on a Turion64 laptop... can anyone help me?02:54
kickfacceorbin, i hae googled for like 3 days etc.. no luck02:54
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gnomefreakkickfacce: is your 3d working?02:55
orbinkickfacce: i meant ubuntuforums.org02:55
kickfaccegnomefreak, yes it works fine but... 5 - 10mins in the game it goes black02:55
orbinPolypterus: how'd you install the themes?02:55
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_jasonarrick: is 'postfix' installed?02:56
KNAHello al . Im kinda new to linux but have got everything setup what i need but cant find out how to setp my wireless device . coud anyone maybe MSG me ? seems to be mutch activety in channel . hard to follow .02:56
gnomefreakLinux_Junkie: i meant did you install the 3d drivers for your card and is the fps in a good range and do you have direct rendering02:56
Polypterusorbin: I download themes and install them with the gdm02:56
arrick_jason, I dont know, do I check that the same way>?02:56
kickfacceKNA, look into ndiswrapper02:56
_jasonarrick: apt-cache policy postfix02:56
KNAkickface . what ?02:56
orbinPolypterus: via the login screen setup utility?02:56
Hektik_exilesorry to repeat myself02:56
arrick_jason, its installed02:56
Hektik_exileUbuntu 5.10 stops while I'm loading the live disc on a Turion64 laptop... can anyone help me?02:56
Polypterusorbin: yep02:57
kickfacceKNA, google about ndiswrapper02:57
gnomefreakkickfacce: that was for you not Linux_Junkie02:57
KNAok02:57
orbinPolypterus: when does it tell you they crash?02:57
ConfidentiaLwhat do you think is better for a server ubuntu or debian?02:57
kickfaccegnomefreak, its all installed and the fps is great02:57
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_jasonarrick: hmm that's what gives me sendmail on my system... 'which sendmail' turns up nothing though?  apt-cache search sendmail does turn up a few things, but I'm not really familiar with it to give you any good advice02:57
Polypterusorbin: when I log out or try to log in02:57
KNAkickface thanks02:58
tekN1xKNA: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/02:58
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arrick_jason, webmin-sendmail maybe?02:58
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kickfaccegnomefreak, i used the 3rd party nvidia drivers to install my stuff... with apt-get02:59
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vincenzFunky02:59
vincenzHow do I allow people to run background processes?02:59
vincenzI run a background process02:59
vincenzand for some reason I can't log out from that account02:59
orbinPolypterus: is it just certain themes or all the ones you installed?02:59
tekN1xvincenz: can you explain more?03:00
_jasonarrick: I don't want to give you advice I'm not sure about, try asking the channel about it03:00
Polypterusorbin: all the ones I've installed. All I did was follow the instructions from the ubuntu forums03:00
vincenztekN1x: well I log into my desktop form my laptop with a new user account.  I do ./lambdabot & (an ircbot)... I do CTRL+D (logout).... and it won't log out03:00
arrickAnyone: what is the ubuntu/apache2 version of sendmail?03:00
bartwhat's the easiest way to restrict users to their home dir?03:00
ConfidentiaLdamn, debian is frustratingly difficult :S im switching back to ubuntu...03:00
ConfidentiaL:P03:00
KNAkickfacce this means with this tools i can use the windows device driver ?03:00
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kickfacceKNA, yeah03:01
orbinPolypterus: hmm, don't know to be honest.  but it certainly shouldn't be doing that... :-/03:01
KNAnot to good in english and theese spesial words . ok thanks03:01
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KNAwill give it try03:01
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tekN1xbart: a 'jail.'03:01
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vincenztekN1x: If I manually close the terminal where I'm sshed... it kills the bot03:02
Polypterusorbin: where are the default themes located btw?03:02
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tekN1xvincenz: does the process start in the background or is it actually going to console?03:02
Polypterusorbin: maybe I have to put the new ones there as well, strange as it sounds03:02
vincenztekN1x: it still goes to console03:02
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tekN1xvincenz: try ./lambdabot -b03:02
kickfacceKNA, you can do a sudo apt-get install ndisgtk03:02
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vincenztekN1x: -b??03:02
Pulgokiuh oh, i have a problem. somehow i named a file "-a" and now when i try to delete it or change the name it tells me in using an invalid argument03:03
tekN1xvincenz: to force it to goto background.03:03
kickfacceKNA, its a graphical tool of which you're looking at :P03:03
Pulgokiany clue how to solve this problem?03:03
KNAfuckfacce : 500 - Internal Server Error ! when trying to download from source03:03
vincenztekN1x: erm... won't that pass the parameter to the program?03:03
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jk-hi all.03:03
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ph8hey guys, i've done this manual install of firefox (as per the wiki) but now it wants to update the package, is there a way i can make it ignore all new firefox packages?03:03
RhastaPulgoki, escape it03:03
Rhastarm \-a03:03
Pulgokiahh03:03
Pulgokiok03:03
kickfacceKNA, just enable universal repositories and run this command sudo apt-get install ndisgtk03:03
Pulgokii'll try taht03:03
jk-anyone using gtkpod on powerpc ?03:03
orbinPolypterus: just to confirm, you installed via: sys > admin > login screen setup > themd greeter tab > install new tab right?03:04
KNAworkds sorry03:04
mdsI just started messing about with iptables, is there a syslog where I can have failures to connect logged to?03:04
PulgokiRhasta: that was so easy it made me feel stupid03:04
Pulgoki:|03:04
jk-mds: iptables .. -j LOG03:04
AlthNoob question - how do I see process ids in a terminal?03:04
Polypterusorbin: yes03:04
RhastaAlth, ps03:04
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tekN1xvincenz: Yes. You'll have to make the process start in the background before you regain access to the console.03:04
jk-will log to /var/log/messages03:04
kickfacceAlth, ps -aux03:04
Rhastapossibly ps -ea if you want to see everything03:05
KNAcant download it crap :(03:05
AlthTa :)03:05
KNAuniversal repositories ?03:05
mdscool nuff jk-, just enter that at a prompt or is it a line I need to add to each rule?03:05
vincenztekN1x: I knwo03:05
tekN1xvincenz: Unless I've totally misunderstood your question.03:05
jk-you need to have rules to log packets03:05
kickfacce!tell KNA about repositories03:05
jk-(separate)03:05
vincenztekN1x: I start my bot "./lambdabot --online &"03:05
vincenztekN1x: it runs in background03:05
vincenztekN1x: but when I do logout03:06
KNAhmm03:06
vincenztekN1x: it won't logout, it hangs at logout process03:06
vincenzuntil the bot is finally killed03:06
martyvPulgoki, ls -i will show you the inode of the file03:06
mdsthanks jk- .  :)03:06
orbinPolypterus: /usr/share/gdm/themes03:06
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Polypterusorbin: thanks!03:06
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kickfaccesure wish someone could help me with my problem or point me to a channel that can help03:07
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Polypterusorbin: the new themes are there though03:07
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Pulgokimartyv: what is an inode?03:07
Trewasis there some easy and permanent way to disable ipv6 (in current dapper)?03:07
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orbinPolypterus: like i said, dunno tbh03:07
ph8surely someone knows how to get apt to ignore certain package patterns?03:08
jeff_hannTrewas:why do you want to do this?03:08
sobbbberi have installed frostwire, it appears in the menu but when i click on it, it doesn't start.. what should i do?03:08
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Polypterusorbin: that's ok. thanks03:08
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martyvPulgoki, the easiest way is "rm ./-a"  . The inode is the actual identifier of the file03:08
sobbbber!tell jre03:08
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IceToxHey! I'm trying to start a task at my computer via ssh. But it doesn't work. I get this message --- > "Application Initialization failed: no display name and no $DISPLAY environment variable" What does it mean?03:09
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Pulgokimartyv: thats what it did, rm ~/-a03:09
martyvPulgoki, di "ls -l ./-a" first if you need to check03:09
arrick anyone, I am in the process of using http://www.thesitewizard.com/wizards/feedbackform.shtml?r=533645477X1145536934 to generate a custom perl feedback form and it is asking for the location of the "sendmail binary, anyone have any suggestion as to finding it, or obtining it?03:09
paxPulgoki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inode03:09
orbinIceTox: it means it's an X application iirc03:09
Pulgokii know that the file was , i just named it -a on accident03:09
IceToxorbin, you can't start that via ssh?03:09
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mjrTrewas, edit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases , search/replace ipv6 with off03:09
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KNAfuckfacce i have activated it03:10
KNArun03:10
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sobbbber!tell sobbbber jre03:10
martyvPulgoki,  i just tested "rm ./-a" and it works03:10
KNAsudo apt-get install ndisgtk03:10
KNAwhere03:10
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KNAhehe'03:10
Trewasjeff_hann: ipv6 seems to confuse my adsl-router greatly, and it seems to get only (non-working) ipv6 on boot even on work network03:10
orbinIceTox: well, X apps don't really work too well in console.  at least afaik03:10
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kickfaccecan i update my kernel and get the source for it preferably to 2.603:11
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Trewasmjr: doesn't that get (optionally) overwritten in updates? I was interested also in that permanent part :)03:12
Doatwhen i open Sound from the Preferences menu it just opens a blank window that hangs up. what's wrong?03:12
sobbbberi forgot.. whre can i find the information regarding installing java in ubuntu?03:12
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orbinkickfacce: ubuntu ships w/ a 2.6 kernel :-/03:12
orbinkickfacce: uname -r03:12
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kickfacceorbin, uname -r03:12
kickfaccegive03:12
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jeff_hannTrewas:mjr advised well,but i dunno if that will solve your probs03:12
vincenzHow do I allow a user to run background processes even after he logs out??03:12
orbinubotu: tell sobbbber about java03:12
gormi456hi all03:12
kickfacceorbin, bleh sorry thinking oldly hehe can i get the source then?03:12
martyvvincenz, use "screen"03:13
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vincenzmartyv: without screen03:13
vincenzmartyv: it's a background process03:13
orbinkickfacce: search for linux source and get the relevant one03:13
gormi456i need a little help from someone who has php4 installed, but not configured for mail03:13
martyvvincenz, nohup03:13
vincenznohup?03:13
orbinkickfacce: in synaptic/other apt tool i mean03:13
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Trewasjeff_hann: the easiest way seems to be just rm -rf /lib/modules/*/kernel/net/ipv6 but even that has to be run again after kernel upgrade03:13
vincenzmartyv: thank you03:13
martyvvincenz, no hang up - old school before screen03:14
vincenzmartyv: how come my other user doesn't need this03:14
glimphelo how could i use my newly installed hard disk03:14
vincenzmartyv: my primary user03:14
martyvvincenz, how do you mean03:14
Trewasjeff_hann: network of course works fine after that03:14
vincenzmartyv: well if I log in as vincenz onto my desktop and run the lambdabot &, it's fine03:14
vincenzmartyv: but with the new user "icfp" I need to do 'nohup ./lambdabot &'03:14
kickfacceorbin, gay it doesn't have mine i have 2.6.12-1003:14
kgoetzanyone remember where the info on reenabling ubuntus printer sharing is?03:15
Doatwhen i open Sound from the Preferences menu it just opens a blank window that hangs up. what's wrong?03:15
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glimphelo how could i use my newly installed hard disk?03:15
orbinkickfacce: so get the linux-source-2.6.12 package03:15
kickfacceorbin, found it :D03:15
vincenzmartyv: it's still killing it03:15
jeff_hannTrewas:it's a pretty odd problem;kernel upgrades aren't that often03:15
vincenzmartyv: does the user need special perms?03:15
kgoetzglimp, how do you want to use it?03:15
lowfiglimp, install ubuntu on it, :)03:16
martyvvincenz, i would have thought if you run any process in a X terminal and then logout the process will be killed, unless you spawn it as a daemon03:16
joachim-nI cna't use bug buddy on breezy -- where's sendmail?03:16
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glimpas an extra space i have my ubuntu on another disk03:16
gormi456in /usr/sbin/sendmail03:16
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kickfacceorbin, i think i know my issue which is the gay ass nvidia drivers that are supplied in the 3rd party repositories03:16
gormi456normally03:16
Trewasjeff_hann: ipv6 related problems seem to be quite common in ubuntu, some googling shows... which is why I thought the new release might have some easier option to disable it03:16
orbinDoat: what happens when you run: gnome-sound-properties in a terminal?03:17
itdepop03:17
Doatorbin, nothing03:17
orbinkickfacce: that's nice.  ease up on the gay-bashing though....03:17
Doator it hangs up as well03:17
arrick anyone, I am in the process of using http://www.thesitewizard.com/wizards/feedbackform.shtml?r=533645477X1145536934 to generate a custom perl feedback form and it is asking for the location of the "sendmail binary, anyone have any suggestion as to finding it, or obtining it?03:17
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arrickIll be back03:17
kickfacceorbin, no i will say gay as much as i want!!!!!!!!03:17
orbinDoat: no errors?  does it quit?03:17
sobbbberhi.  i have installed frostwire, it appears in the menu but when i click on it, it doesn't start.. what should i do?03:18
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Doatorbin, no. i have to ctrl+c it03:18
gormi456arrick> by default it is in /usr/sbin/sendmail03:18
thoreauputickickfacce: I suggest that you don't03:18
jeff_hannTrewas:what problems?03:18
kgoetzglimp, run 'mkfs.ext3' on it, then mount it into /mnt03:18
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orbinlol03:18
kickfaccethoreauputic, don't be lame03:18
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itdepgays i have a problem weed my computer03:19
arrickgormi456, and if its not there, you dont have it right?03:19
orbinDoat: so nothing shows up?03:19
thoreauputicsorry, I'll lift that when you get a clue03:19
Doatorbin, nope03:19
vincenzgrr03:19
vincenznohup ain't working03:19
gormi456glimp> or  mkfs.reiserfs03:19
Trewasjeff_hann: mainly related to dns queries working very slowly or not at all (which is the case behind my adsl-router if the host to be queried has an ipv6 address)03:19
glimpbut i can't browse it kgoetz, when i run disk manager i can't enable it i formatted it as ext 303:19
gormi456arrick i think yes03:19
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gormi456apt-get install postfix will install it i think03:19
mischahi there all03:19
kgoetzglimp, 'cant browse it' meaning 'its nto mounted into the filesystem'?03:19
arrickgormi456, thats already installed03:20
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glimpyeah i think03:20
jeff_hannTrewas:isn't there a bugfix fot that?03:20
glimphow could i mount it?03:20
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gormi456find / -name sendmail 2>/dev/null03:20
saik0How would i get what hdb1 is to grub...it's not hd (0,1)03:20
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kgoetzglimp, so try running `mount /dev/hdsomething /mnt`03:20
gormi456u can try it03:20
kgoetzer. sudo mount03:20
mischai upgrade firefox this morning to 1.0.8 as the autoupdate adviced...03:20
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glimpokay i'll try it thanks03:20
Trewasjeff_hann: yes, the bugfix is to disable ipv6 :)03:20
mischaand now XMLHttpRequest is not working anymore....03:20
jeff_hann:))03:21
kgoetzgormi456, locate might be faster03:21
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Doatorbin, any ideas?03:21
agliv5ompaul still there?03:21
saik0oops, i meant hf(1,0)03:21
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gormi456kgoetz> yeah... but im not used to it03:21
kickfaccethoreauputic, why thanks03:21
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orbinDoat: not really unfortunately...03:21
martyvvincenz, what does lambdadot do ?03:21
thoreauputickickfacce: I suggest that you reconsider your behaviour03:21
kgoetzgormi456, locate file. or for a binary, `whereis binary`03:21
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kickfaccethoreauputic, its not behavior its words03:21
martyvdoes it expect input from the terminal? cause bash will remove the stdin file descriptor03:22
gormi456kgoetz> i'll try it03:22
thoreauputickickfacce: I won't argue the point - next infraction gets you removed03:22
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gormi456arrick> it found it ?03:22
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glimp@kgoetz thanks i got it, i can now browse it03:22
Doatorbin, lol! i had gnome-sound-properties running in console for like 5 minutes and now it opened a window03:22
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kickfaccethoreauputic, you act like you're very powerful being an operator of a channel03:23
arrickgormi456, permission denied even with sudo03:23
mischaare there know isseus with firefox 1.0.8 concerning  XMLHttpRequest???03:23
agliv5I'm booting from a LiveCD, how can I list my hard drives?03:23
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tekN1xmartyv: it's just an IRC bot.03:23
Hobbseekickfacce: he wouldnt be the only person to boot you, dont worry03:23
kgoetzglimp, cool. well done03:23
Doatorbin, Users and Groups window also starts *slowly*03:23
arrickgormi456, now I typed it in right, but it didnt find anything03:23
orbinDoat: slow computer? :)03:23
mohanramwill xgl work on a 128MB ATi card?03:23
martyvdoes it quit if there is no input?03:23
Doatorbin, no. athlon 2600+03:24
gormi456arrick> hum03:24
orbinagliv5: sys>admin disks, or: sudo fdisk -l03:24
arrickgormi456, I'll be back in about an hour, if you here then will ask you for more help thanks.03:24
gormi456arrick> i'll search a litte03:24
agliv5orbin Thanks :)03:24
gormi456ok03:24
arrickthank you gormi45603:24
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tekN1xmartyv: His problem was it was hanging @ the console after going into the background. . .I can't find nothing on that, tho.03:24
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StarQuakeis it true that with recent upgrade xgl won't work anymore?03:24
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Hobbseethoreauputic: darn!  he left!  i was looking forward to 2 bans in about 10 mins...03:25
thoreauputicHobbsee: heh03:25
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thoreauputicHobbsee: some people don't seem to understand why words can be offensive03:26
Hobbseethoreauputic: no, it seems not.03:26
martyvtekN1x, seems like it might be to do with the way it handles tty. i would stick with screen if it works :-)03:26
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agliv5I thought you could mount a hd from a liveCD using su mount /dev/hda5 /some directory previously created...  But it's not working...03:28
agliv5unknow id03:29
kgoetzagliv5, run 'cat /proc/partitions ;to make sure your partitions are what you think03:29
orbinagliv5: what filesystem?03:29
martyvagliv5, or fdisk -l /dev/hda03:29
agliv5orbin NTFS03:29
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agliv5I identified my HDs via fdisk -l03:30
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agliv5let me grab my laptop and I'll be right back...03:30
orbinagliv5: sys>help>startguide>windowsdrives03:30
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orbinor consult: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions03:31
agliv5ok I'll look into the wiki03:31
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cens0redwhere do I set up the j2sdk in the PATH, and the JAVA_HOME variable? I tried .bash_profile, and /etc/profile. Didn't work.03:33
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DanamaniaI don't know where else to say it, but I'm awfully impressed with ubuntu 6.06 - it's the first linux install I've tried that detects and uses correctly all the hardware I use on my iMac first go without a bucketload of screwing around. 3 cheers for that :D.03:33
Frogzoocens0red: .gnomerc03:33
fanchetteHI. can somebody help with sound? (aplay -l lists no device)03:33
AlthDanamania - I'm impressed with the same thing for my Breezy install :P03:33
Hobbsee!tell fanchette about sound03:34
fanchettei tried the wiki already, without success03:34
cens0redFrogzoo can't locate .gnomerc03:34
orbinkgoetz: what do we look for?  b/c that just confuses me :-/03:34
DanamaniaAlth: Breezy was quite close for me, but not all there - it was enough for me to give dapper a go though.03:34
Frogzoocens0red: cos it doesn't exist yet03:35
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BanerHello, who can help with bnc and oidentd support? plz i want to make oidentd make ident from users ident on bnc, not the ident from the user who launched bnc server03:35
AlthDanamania - I'm passing on Dapper until it's stable for my laptop :P03:35
Danamaniathat makes sense03:35
FrogzooAlth: I agree - some data can't be trusted to a beta release03:35
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cens0redFrogzoo thanks for the help.03:36
=== Alth nods
Frogzoocheers cens0red, yw03:36
AlthBut as soon as it goes 'gold', so to speak, Dapper is on and Breezy is gone :P03:37
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FrogzooAlth: dunno, breezy already does everything I need - so I'm not upgrading until I can see a need to03:37
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orbinAlth: same here. can't wait.03:38
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AlthFrogzoo: But I'm excited about some stuff in Dapper, and I like to say I'm on the cutting edge ... of stability ... :P03:38
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HobbseeAlth: of stability?  what stability?03:39
AlthWow, FrostWire looks EXACTLY like LW...but prettier =o03:39
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Alth<Hobbsee> Alth: of stability?  what stability? <-- Breezy is stable for me. I won't be using Dapper till it's also stable ;)03:39
HobbseeAlth: oh...i thought you were refering to dapper as stable03:39
FrogzooAlth: that's because it's the same code...03:39
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AlthHobbsee: I figured that's what you thought :P03:40
AlthFrogzoo: Sorry, what?03:40
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FrogzooAlth: Frostwire is a 'preemptive' fork03:40
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DutchyCan I safely update the old firefox without making it the default again, instead of the manually installed ff1.5? I dont want to pay attention to what programs are updated every time, today it showed there was an update for firefox03:41
Alth<Frogzoo> Alth: Frostwire is a 'preemptive' fork <-- Oh, sorry, I thought you meant Dapper >.>03:41
Dutchyor do i have to make it the default again same as when i isntalled 1.5?03:41
AlthFrogzoo: Define preemptive fork?03:42
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HobbseeDutchy: ah...try it.03:42
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orbinanyone _really_ familiar w/ xmms?  where does it look for fonts exactly?  i'm ont seeing the 'sans' font or other familiar ones.03:42
FrogzooAlth: Limewire have suggested introducing some kind of licensing checks, when/if that happens, the Limewire & Frostwire code will fork03:42
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Dutchyi guess :>03:42
Hobbseei would assume it gets overwritten, but i'm guessing03:42
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Dutchykind of annoying that breezy doesnt have 1.5 yet :|03:43
AlthFrogzoo: Sorry, noob, let's try again...define fork? :P03:44
zeebleAlth: hey03:44
FrogzooDutchy: it never will - but you still can install it yourself03:44
Alth*I'm stating that I'm a noob, not calling you one*03:44
Althzeeble!03:44
AlthHoly hell.03:44
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Dutchyyeah i did Frogzoo :)03:44
zeeblehey, no jumping me here.03:44
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AlthAwww Zeeble, whyever not? :P03:45
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AlthI didn't know you were a linux user Z =o03:45
FrogzooAlth: fork is when some of the people in a project tell the others to 'fork off', so the code 'forks' - from there, it becomes 2 projects, and the code bases diverge03:45
Alth*grins at 'fork off'*03:45
zeebleAlth: do a /nickserv info zeeble03:45
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AlthRight, thanks for clearing that up for me FZ :)03:46
FrogzooDutchy: now install Reveal - it should be part of the base 1.5 imo03:46
AlthThe info shows nothing useful, but your whois shows that you're on two linux channels. Is that what you meant? :P03:46
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TraceGreenHello, does any try to patch ndevfs to kernel?03:47
bliss1_Frogzoo: hi i did it 0.8.0 is installed03:47
zeebleAlth: blah. well, too bad you didn't know i used linux. maybe cos i didn't shout about it like noblearc :D03:47
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DutchyFrogzoo, reveal? never heard of it... program or FF extension?03:48
AlthNoble never mentioned it :P03:48
zeebleah, ok.03:48
agliv5I figured out that you can change the partitions table using fdisk, but how do I format an existing partition to a diffrent datasystem?03:48
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zeebleAlth: good. your chose well.03:49
LadyVixany ideas... I upgraded to Breezy last night.... and i still dont have any sound03:49
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Hobbseeagliv5: man cfdisk03:49
AlthThanks zeebs. Ubuntu is great :D03:49
zeebleWhat sound card do you have?03:49
Hobbseeagliv5: scroll down to where it talks about -t03:50
intuos3hi, where can i read about mounting a usb disk (400Gb inside an enclosure)? i can't find mine on /dev/sda.03:50
orbinAlth: did you ever come in here asking about the install?03:50
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bliss1_Alth: well done although i like the look of Fedora 503:50
agliv5Hobbsee it says fdisk -t is an invalid option03:51
intuos3i got this error msg from the last lines of "dmesg" : scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery: host 1 channel 0 id 0 lun 003:51
zeeblemaybe someone can have the fedora 5 theme for download:)03:51
Alth<orbin> Alth: did you ever come in here asking about the install? <-- I came in a couple of times, yes. Came in yesterday for the first time in a long while to ask a partitioning question.03:51
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Hobbseeagliv5: no, man cfdisk.  you missed the c.  but dont do anything without looking at the egs...03:51
intuos3help... anyone?03:51
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Althbliss1_: It looks ok, but Ubuntu seems to suit me a lot more. It's powerful, but not ridiculously hard to learn ;)03:51
zeebleand how was fedora hard to learn?03:51
orbinAlth: yeah, just thought i remebered a fc person asking about ubuntu..03:52
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Althzeeble: It wasn't, it was the opposite.03:52
zeebleah.03:52
AlthYou miss my meaning.03:52
rambo3zeeble, you are in the wrong channel03:52
zeeblerambo3: eh?03:52
sobbbberhi everyone. finally i got frostwire to work. i found a fix here --> http://www.frostwire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4  this might help for those people who haven't find the solution.03:52
bliss1_Frogzoo: please please now that I have installed 0.8.0 can you pastebin the script :)03:52
tekN1xsobbbber: why no tjust Limewire to begin with. It's easier to install.03:53
Althzeeble: FC was ... far, far too much like Linspire or whatever, at the time of FC2, and anything I could do in FC2, I could do in windows. And it wasn't even stable.03:53
Althrambo3: Why is zeeble in the wrong channel?03:53
agliv5Hobbsee it says cfdisk -t is an invalid option what egs?03:53
intuos3or is there a limitation on ubuntu regarding sizes of disk which has usb connection?03:53
rambo3this is not fedora03:53
Alth<orbin> Alth: yeah, just thought i remebered a fc person asking about ubuntu.. <-- would have been a while ago...03:53
Hobbseeagliv5: man cfdisk.03:53
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jenda!firefox03:53
orbinwell that was nice.  i thought the ff update fixed the 100% cpu usage dealo03:53
intuos3Hobbsee: help? :)03:53
orbinAlth: i haven't been in here for a while.03:53
zeeblerambo3: thanks, but i think i can understand where to ask which question. mine was specific to a specific person about a specific issue.03:53
twerp71just installed breezy on latitude cpx can someone tell me how to enable power management?03:54
WarboLadyVix: Hello03:54
zeebleintuos3: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingRemovableDevices03:54
orbinAlth: you don't have to quote people btw.  most of us have a memory longer than 1 min ;)03:54
sobbbbertekN1x: froshwire seems to be like limewire anyway.. i don't know. haha03:54
intuos3zeeble: thanks! :)03:54
Althorbin: It's habit. I'm used to fast moving channels, and I like people to know which bit of text I'm addressing. I'll stop if you like, but it is an ingrained habit :P03:55
N0ISVhello03:55
LadyVixWarbo: I have sound now :P03:55
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orbinAlth: i don't mind.  just thought i'd point it out to possibly save you xing and pasting03:55
WarboLadyVix: If you said you were using an old version to begin with :)03:55
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orbintwerp71: anything in particular?03:56
LadyVixWarbo: well thats what they sent me when I ordered disks....20 copies of hoary gave most of them to a coworkers to play with03:56
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Althorbin: I do it almost subconciously now :) It's harder to stop than to do the pasting and have people ignore it ;)03:57
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fyrestrtris there anyone running WoW using wine in here?03:57
twerp71just want it to shut down when its been ignored for more than 10 mins , or something like that03:57
WarboLadyVix: You must have ordered too close to a release (or too late, after they ran out of Breezy :))03:57
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zeebleheh.03:57
bliss1_Frogzoo: any chance of posting the script now that i have 0.8.0 installed :)03:57
AngryElf!shocksave03:58
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, AngryElf03:58
Althtwerp71: system/preferences/screensaver :)03:58
AngryElf!shockwave03:58
ubotuUnfortunately there is no shockwave available for Linux (unless you use wine).  Please lobby Macromedia!03:58
LadyVixWarbo: oh well... I fell asleep... when I came back i had to reboot but the update took so i'm happy03:58
Warbobliss1_: You still on about Qemu?03:58
AngryElfubotu! :(03:58
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Althtwerp71: Under the advanced tab.03:58
administratori got a question about xorg03:58
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agliv5When I try to run cfdisk /dev/hda2 <- the one I want to format I get Fatal Error: Cannot open disk drive...03:58
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Alth(As a side note, woot! I've had the distro a day and I know where stuff is >.>)03:58
administratori just added 2 more settings and rebooted and they still don;t show up03:59
bliss1_Warbo: shh i just about nodded off03:59
twerp71cool thanks ;-)03:59
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naveenhello03:59
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Warboagliv5: Do it on the drive, not the partition03:59
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N0ISVhello, this is my first time on Xchat, is this the only channel for ubuntu?03:59
LadyVixWarbo: it was right after Breezy came out that I ordered03:59
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orbintwerp71: install gnome-power-manager maybe03:59
zeebleN0ISV: /topic03:59
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HobbseeN0ISV: yes, what were you after?03:59
AlthSo how's life on DALnet Zeebs?03:59
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WarboLadyVix: I've been using Ubuntu since I got a Kubuntu preview of Breezy, then got some CDs a few months ago03:59
binaHI I've tried to use two monitors on my ATI Card (at the same time), I can get them to both show the same desktop (using fireglcontrolpanel) but cant get them to show two desktops.  Is there something I need to do in KDE?04:00
N0ISVwant to run ubuntu live cd04:00
zeebleAlth: should be good i guess. trivia mostly. in fact, that's where i am when i am there.04:00
freezeyI just added 2 more resolution settings to my xorg.conf and rebooted and they won't show up? any reason why04:00
LadyVixWarbo: how do I install other programs? remember I stil want to install that game04:00
WarboN0ISV: Have you tried it yet?04:00
orbinN0ISV: is that a question?04:00
Althzeeble: Don't go to CC any more? Just Chata?04:00
yggdrasilhow do i make a gateway machine with one nic on one side and another on the other siedd?04:01
zeebleAlth: yes. CC rare. it's been difficult.04:01
WarboLadyVix: Well I would recommend installing stuff through Synaptic, but Neverwinter Nights doesn't need installing (usually) so you can put it somewhere like $HOME/Games and run it from there04:01
yggdrasilits allready seatup i just need to add aroute from eth0 to ath004:01
agliv5cfdisk /dev/hda --> Fatal Error: Bad logical partition 6: logical partitions overlap...04:01
N0ISVI have it saved to a CD, I downloaded a pgm to open the .iso file, now what do I do next?04:01
Althzeeble: Elaborate?04:01
LadyVixWarbo: and how do I get the binaries off the windows cd?04:02
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WarboN0ISV: You don't need to open the Live CD, just write the iso as it is using Nero or something (not built in Windows one, as that will just copy the file)04:02
orbinbina: there isn't a "clone" option?04:02
zeebleN0ISV: burn the ISO as an image. with your fav windows CD burning aplication. most will allow you to burn the iso as an image. then reboot, set your BIOS to boot off the CDrom and go ahead.04:02
WarboLadyVix: Just copy them I would imagine. There must be a guide somewhere04:03
zeebleAlth: talk there can get to me sometimes. or having to sit around listening to loads of crap.04:03
Althzeeble: I haven't been in for ages, been spending time on zirc. Lots less lamers :P04:03
binaorbin: yeah, thats the only one ive been able to use so far, but I want them to show different desktops so i can have one for browsing and another for documents etc04:03
zeebleAlth: good for you.04:03
LadyVixWarbo: I can get you to the URL with the directions... they made no sence to me04:03
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Althzeeble: I detect a note of sarcasm =o04:04
binaorbin: there is an extend one but that make the CRT go into 640x480.  I thought id try doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to see whether that helps04:04
jendaIf anyone could get me a nice and BIG (1500*1500) picture of a red newt, or red eft even better... I would be very grateful (and yes, it is ontopic)04:04
N0ISVXP could not open the .iso file, I had to find a different pgm to open it.04:04
yggdrasilcan somone tell me the cmd to add a route to go from eth0 (lan) to ath0 (wan) ? trying to make a gatweay box here04:04
zeebleAlth: none intended. relax.04:04
WarboLadyVix: Fire away04:04
zeebleAlth: your sensory meters are all zonked out cos it is late night04:04
AlthThat's true :)04:05
AlthWait, how'd you know that?04:05
WarboN0ISV: You just need to write the iso file to a CD, but in a way that ends up with lots of files on the disc, not just the iso file04:05
zeebleAlth: Eh? Well, it is evneing here. So must be very late in tasmania.04:05
orbinbina: possibly.  is there something about dual monitors on the ati wiki?04:06
LadyVixWarbo:  http://tinyurl.com/r996f04:06
Althzeeble: Midnight, but I've had a long day :)04:06
binaorbin: good idea, i'll check04:06
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N0ISVThere are alot of files on the disk.04:06
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zeebleAlth: cool. I'm just tring to get my camera and laptop to work together.04:07
ArafangionWhy is vim so slow to load files atm?04:07
orbinbina: if not there, try the forum04:07
agliv5I just noticed something really strange  hda5 is the partition that had data on it that I want to save; however it starts at 1279 and ends at 4083.  hda2 & hda6 are unformated and start 1144 & 1145 and end 7295 & 4083 respectively... no wonder why I can't see hda5 it overlaps with hda2 and hda6.  What can I do to correct this?04:07
zeebleArafangi2n: was it faster earlier?04:07
N0ISVI think there will be some operator error on my part till I figure all this out?04:07
binaorbin: k, thanks04:07
LadyVixWarbo: found a new toy so i dont drop big urls like i did last night04:07
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zeebleheh. tinyurl rocks that way.04:08
binaorbin: i seem to remember seeing something when I tried to change the resolution in KDE but i can't even find that now :)04:08
immerhey, installed Breezy on my girlfriend's dell d610, and the wireless card doesn't show up in the net admin.   Ran lspci and the last entry showed something about an unknown network adapter with a broadcom chipset...any ideas?04:08
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aetwhat happened to archive.ubuntulinux.org?04:09
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WarboLadyVix: OK, are you trying to install from an existing Windows installation?04:09
slackernJust a quick question, i have 2 packages being held back,   hplip-data libopenal0 how would i proceed to get them installed when doing apt-get upgrade?04:09
cens0redbugger it.04:09
cens0redI can't get java up and running on this.04:09
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zeebleslackern: just try installing them individually.04:09
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Danamaniaslackern: install each manually, or use dist-upgrade instead.04:09
agliv5can anybody help me recover my data?04:10
slackerndist-upgrade says the same thing.04:10
slackernbut i'll try manually.04:10
LadyVixWarbo: click the link on the page down at bottom says Linux client.html04:10
zeeblethen maybe there's some problem with the packages. let the system be as it is. without the 2 package upgrades.04:10
orbincens0red: following the wiki?04:10
WarboLadyVix: I did but it gives a few ways of installing. Which are you trying (I assume the second)04:10
slackerndid it manually now and it didn't complain, lets see how it works out.04:11
Warboagliv5: Where is it and where do you want it?04:11
cens0redorbin where's the wiki?04:11
LadyVixWarbo: ddrive that has an existing install is damaged... gets hot and shuts down if used for more than  minutes... the CD is the only real option04:11
dj_smilee|workBenC, are you about?04:12
orbinubotu: tell cens0red about java04:12
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AngryElfhey all, afaik, ntfs support is strictly RO, so how would i get a very large file from a linux comp to a windows comp using an external hard drive?04:12
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FreeZeyok i need this solved somenoe help me out please04:12
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Alth-e04:12
agliv5Warbo /dev/hda5 is where it is and I just want to make it visiable again04:12
LadyVixWarbo: unless you know how to use the binaries from download..04:12
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cens0redorbin thanks.04:13
FreeZeyi ran the sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg command04:13
FreeZeyand still nothing04:13
FreeZeyno changed were made04:13
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FreeZeychanges**04:13
LadyVixWarbo: I'll be back in a moment AFK went to get breakfast ready04:13
WarboLadyVix: OK, have you downloaded the huge files for the first method04:13
Warbolol, 3.13 pm04:13
orbinubotu: tell AngryElf about explore2fs04:14
FreeZeymarbo: think u can help me out real fast04:14
agliv5The problem is that I really don't have enough room to move it anywhere... it is where it is, but the partition table is apparently screwed up...04:14
AlthI goes to bed now.04:14
AlthGoodnight orbin :)04:14
AlthG'night Zeeble <304:14
Warboagliv5: You haven't saved anything to that part of disc since have you?04:14
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orbinlater Alth04:14
AlthSee you guys tomorrow perhaps.04:14
zeebleGood night, Alth.04:14
LadyVixWarbo: remember what i said this morning... when i left it was am04:15
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LadyVixWarbo: *1am04:15
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LadyVixWarbo: its 9:15am now here :P04:15
FreeZeymad early04:15
FreeZeyi gotta be at work till dam 504:15
agliv5Warbo 3:15 huh?  that would put you in.... russia?  Anyway it's a really long story what happened04:15
WarboLadyVix: Yeah. Anyway, you are going to do this with me guessing as we go, cos a) you have the installed windows version and b) i'm not downloading over a gig for an experiment (I have 20 GB limit)04:16
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agliv54:15 here in germany :)04:16
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FreeZeyOk let me ask something is there a way to change resolutions at boot screen?04:16
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m0shulhello to all04:17
WarboFreeZey: I think you can use options to control boot-up resolution but that is it (vga=somenumber) but I am probably really wrong04:17
Danamaniais there a linux equivalent in ubuntu to OSX's glterm (which emulates a bubble-screened, flickery, slow-response phosphor serial terminal - like http://abstrakt.vade.info/wp-content/blogimages/glterm1.png )?04:17
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LadyVixWarbo: *gigglesnort* I have to power up that second harddrive... my case is open and I unplug that harddrive when not in use i still need to download the client itself04:17
agliv5Warbo  it seems like you're really bussy at the moment?04:18
west_why can`t i just install amsn on ubuntu ?04:18
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WarboLadyVix: Don't bother with the drive to begin with, just the download04:18
_jason!info amsn04:18
ubotuamsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB04:18
tonyyarussoFreeZey: You can change the resolution during boot stuff, but not of Grub.04:18
_jasonwest_: have you enable universe?04:18
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orbinWarbo: you're correct on the vga stuff04:18
Warboagliv5: No. I've just finished my last bababa.04:18
FreeZeymarbo: well then can you tell me why i edit my xorg.conf and the resolutions won;t appear04:18
zeebleDanamania: whoa. that's the effect of the terminal app? i thought it was one curved screen04:18
Warboorbin: Correct in saying I was wrong?04:18
schirloci just upgraded to 5.10 and I can't get firefox working... help04:18
arrick&*@^#!(@^ I hate people who call you and ask you to set up an interview and then they arent event he company that they claimed to be.04:18
agliv5Warbo can you help me in fixing the partition table?04:19
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Warboagliv5: Maybe, as I tried it once04:19
LadyVixWarbo: I just ran the updater for ubuntu.. soem have to be doen thru Synaptic and i'll wait on those04:19
schirloci just upgraded to 5.10 and I can't get firefox working... help04:19
orbinWarbo: no. correct as in you can use vga=xxx to "change resolution" for console04:19
arrickgormi456, are you still around?04:19
orbinubotu: tell FreeZey about fixres04:19
WarboLadyVix: OK, I'll help agliv504:19
jprcei need help repartitioning my drives with a duel boot. i want to make my ubuntu partitions to be smaller and extend my windows drive04:19
agliv5Warbo, well that 1 more time than I've tried ;)  Where do we start?04:19
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Danamaniazeeble: yeah - it emulates the lot, bad included :)04:20
west_if anyone can tell me how to indstall aman ( i unistalled gaim ) PM me pls ..04:20
zeebleDanamania: looks neat.04:20
arrickagliv5, good morning04:20
Warboorbin: Oh OK (I thought it was only for distros which use the "tux in the top left" method of boot-graphics)04:20
NET||abusecould anyone advice me on how to obtain libmysqlclient15 through the libs04:20
orbinschirloc: what's the issue?04:20
Danamaniait takes me back :)04:20
zeeblewest_: sudo apt-get install amsn04:20
NET||abuseumm, through the debs even..04:20
NET||abusei've looked all over and not found the answer04:20
zeebleDanamania: hehe. i never used osx.04:20
west_ty04:20
agliv5Morning arrick I really screwed things up since yesterday04:20
schirlocwant me to paste in a pm?04:20
FreeZeyorbin: ty04:20
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arrickagliv5, really?04:20
NET||abusedapper seems to have libmysqlclient15 but breezy only has 1404:20
arrickwhat did you do?04:21
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NET||abuseso can i safely just get 15 from the dapper debs?04:21
NET||abuseor is that a bad idea?04:21
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HobbseeNET||abuse: it's very likely a bad idea04:21
Warboagliv5: You understand that I said tried? And that I have 1,2,3,4.. 6 failed hard drives next to me04:21
NET||abusethat's what i thought...04:21
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_jasonNET||abuse: probably a bad idea, could have different deps04:21
schirloci have 2 errors I keep getting... I think i need to update a config file04:21
west_Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have04:22
west_requested an impossible situation ?04:22
orbinWarbo: no.  all recent distros use framebuffer to draw text and graphics ... anyway, i don't know the exact terminology.04:22
jprcei need help repartitioning my drives with a duel boot. i want to make my ubuntu partitions to be smaller and extend my windows drive04:22
NET||abuseHobbsee, have you any idea how i might get my hands on libmysqlclient15 in breezy then? i need to access a mysql 5.0.16 server on another box04:22
Warboagliv5: Right, I did remember the name. Install "gpart"04:22
_jasonwest_: you need universe, have you enabled it?04:22
orbinWarbo: and vga=xxx specifies the resolution for the framebuffer to use ... or something like that04:22
west_how ?04:22
HobbseeNET||abuse: ah, grab the source from somewhere, and compile it, i guess.04:22
west_I just got on ubuntu ,04:22
intuos3immer: time to grab ndiswrapper.04:22
_jasonubotu: tell west_ about universe04:22
arrick anyone, I am in the process of using http://www.thesitewizard.com/wizards/feedbackform.shtml?r=533645477X1145536934 to generate a custom perl feedback form and it is asking for the location of the "sendmail binary, anyone have any suggestion as to finding it, or obtining it?04:22
jprcewhat program should i use to do that04:22
Warboorbin: The only thing I like about Mandriva is the logo on consoles :)04:22
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zeeblehaha.04:23
west_is sick oif mr gates04:23
schirloci just upgraded to 5.10 and I can't get firefox working... help04:23
schirloci have 2 errors I keep getting... I think i need to update a config file04:23
schirlocwant me to paste in a pm?04:23
west_of *04:23
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tonyyarussoschirloc: Use the pastebin.04:23
N0ISVWill the ubuntu "live" cd run along with windows at the same time?04:23
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west_where do I set up universal ?04:23
orbinarrick: er, install sendmail?04:23
schirlocpastebin?04:23
orbinWarbo: yeah, pretty flash :)04:24
zeebleschirloc: delete the ~/.mozilla stuff it if it is not needed.04:24
tonyyarussoschirloc: Read the message from the bot.04:24
WarboN0ISV: It won't touch Windows, but it won't run AT THE SAME TIME. Windows will not boot up, Linux will. When you remove the CD Windows will boot up again04:24
orbinN0ISV: that's the point really04:24
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tekN1xwest_: pico /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the universe sources.04:24
arrickorbin, whats the name of it?04:24
N0ISVOK04:24
schirlocho04:24
zeebleschirloc: be careful if you have thunderbird mails there was well. then you might want to do rm -rf ~/mozilla/firefox and try restarting FFox after that04:24
orbinN0ISV: actually, forget that. listen to warbo :P04:24
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orbinarrick: sendmail :-/04:25
orbinarrick: it's in universe04:25
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arrickok thanks04:25
antisocial_borisis it possible to make a .zip that works on windows?04:25
zeebleantisocial_boris: sure.04:25
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LadyVixWarbo: you'll be on after I get off work I take it? Synaptic says about 30 minutes but I have to get ready for work04:25
Warboantisocial_boris: All zips will work on Windows (as long as you don't put a colon in the filename :))04:25
NET||abuseok, mysql v 5 has been around long enough to become the GA version of mysql, i think it odd that ubuntu doesn't support the mysql client version to access v5 so... what's with that?04:25
zeeblehaha04:25
schirlocno start, no error04:26
N0ISVBut I need to set my PC to load from CD, and not c drive?04:26
nandemonai_Hi people, I've just installed a very light weight ubuntu install and have gdm / xfce4 running fine. Only thing is I cant set the resolution above 600x480. I have setup xorg.conf to no avail.. I'm thinking it's because I'm using the vesa driver yes?04:26
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zeebleN0ISV: yes. in your bios. set first boot device as CD04:27
WarboLadyVix: Well I'm living nocturnally this week (although I've been up for 24 hours so far, so I don't know how long I'm going to be awake) Sorry, but that's the life of a student in a holiday :)04:27
tonyyarussoN0ISV: Most modern machines will have the CD higher in the boot order by default, but you should check it.04:27
bliss1_orbin: do you about permissions ?04:27
west_when I ran pico /etc/apt/sources there was nothing on the screen . :(04:27
zeeblewest_: sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list04:27
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LadyVixWarbo: snickers... I never had that opportunity... I went from Highschool to work... and thats it....04:27
zeebleor sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list04:27
Warbowest_: Maybe run "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" instead (I've never used Pico)04:27
LadyVixAny recommended channels to loiter in?04:28
tekN1xWarbo: nano is an alternative to pico04:28
antisocial_boriszeeble, what command should i use?04:28
west_i have it there04:28
WarbotekN1x: I know, but is pico installed by default?04:28
bliss1_orbin:  would like to set a few custom permission rules in /etc/udev/permissions.d/udev.permissions04:28
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tekN1xWarbo: yes.04:28
schirlocwhat is pastebin?04:28
schirlocmy bug reporting tool doesn't work04:29
N0ISVNever done that before. Should be easy enough to do?04:29
thoreauputic!pastebin04:29
ubotuhmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126904:29
west_GNU nano starts04:29
orbinbliss1_: that file doesn't exist for me04:29
LadyVixschirloc:   Pastes to Pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/04:29
zeebleantisocial_boris: zip -r filename.zip files04:29
WarboN0ISV: Yes, but we can't really walk you through it as they're all different. Any advice we give would be obvious04:29
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schirlocright, is anyone paying attention... firefox... my WEBBROWSER, is the thing not working, therefore making any interactions with a URL quite complicated04:30
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phrowzenlol04:31
orbinantisocial_boris: also apps>accessories>archive mgr if you're more comfortable w/ guis04:31
schirlocsorry, if that sounded short04:31
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ubuntu_jh04:31
Warboschirloc: Have you tried installing an alternative temporarily? Konqueror, Epiphany, Amaya, even lynx04:31
ubuntu_saslut04:31
ubuntu_salut04:31
beta_mthe local NTFS partition is only accessable to the programme that runs as root, i can do sudo -i and browse through it, and get files from it, or i can do jksudo xnc, and see it graphically, but i can't view it from my normal account04:31
bliss1_orbin: does not for me either have to create it04:31
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orbinschirloc: w3m's installed by default04:32
fyrestrtrwhat are the options as far as voice chatting go?04:32
Warbobeta_m: You need to add the option "uid=yourusername" to the /etc/fstab file04:32
schirlocI suppose i could do that... w3m?04:32
orbinbliss1_: i'm nto familiar w/ that process.  sorry.04:32
Kamionbeta_m: fixed in dapper04:32
Kamion(the dapper installer, that is)04:32
beta_mwhat is "dapper"?04:32
jprcecan someone tell me what program is best for resizing partitions on a dual boot?04:32
thoreauputic!dapper04:32
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)04:32
bliss1_orbin: ok04:32
tekN1xbeta_m: is upcoming release of the next ubuntu version.04:33
fyrestrtrjprce: for Windows, Partition Magic, for linux, gparted04:33
schirlocwhat is w3m?04:33
zeeblea browser.04:33
thoreauputicschirloc: text mode browser04:33
beta_mok, thanks people04:33
beta_mq;-)04:33
N0ISVCool, I have looked at the bios settings, just never changed anything. But to switch to Linux at some point, I need to try new stuff.04:33
jprcefyrestrtr, but if i resize with PM, will ubuntu recognize it still? (I have my win drive mounted)04:33
bliss1_Frogzoo: i have installed 0.8.0 can you pastebin the script:)04:33
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WarboN0ISV: Usually most PCs are set to boot floppy then CD then harddrive (then maybe network)04:34
fyrestrtrjprce: you need to be in Windows to use partition magic, when you resize it and then reload ubuntu, it will pickup the right size.04:34
Kamionbeta_m: otherwise, edit /etc/fstab as root and change "defaults" on the relevant line to "defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46" (which is what the installer will set in dapper)04:34
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brandon__i'm confused about something regarding iptables/firestarter. if i add an exception for a port, let's say edonkey2000, does thatmean the port will be visible and will respond to a scanner, or is it still stealthed until i initiate traffic, eg. launch amule?04:34
Warbofyrestrtr: Doesn't Partition Magic reboot the machine anyway, then run from a floppy or something?04:34
N0ISVok04:34
jprcefyrestrtr: ok, then use the livecd to change linux? or command line? - because the graphical gparted doesn't display drives for me in ubuntu04:35
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ubuntu_tengo una duda de bash04:35
Warbojprce: I have problems with GParted, but none with QTParted which is on KNOPPIX Live CD04:35
ubuntu_s.o.s04:35
orbin!es04:35
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:35
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jprceWarbo: knoppix?04:36
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Warbojprce: Just a different Linux distro on Live CD. I always have one handy for resizing partitions04:36
zeebleAnyone have a sources.list entry forE17?04:36
jprceoh04:36
agliv5what's the post url  something.ubuntu-nl.org04:36
agliv5?04:36
zeeblepastebin.ubuntu-nl.org04:37
NoUse!pastebin04:37
uboturumour has it, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126904:37
zeebleor that04:37
Warbozeeble: There is one on the gete.org site (I think that is the URL) It links to some developer's blog04:37
jprceWarbo: well my burner doesn't work so i can't get that live CD04:37
ubuntu_hola04:37
zeebleWarbo: thanks. will check.04:37
orbinzeeble: breezy?04:37
zeebleorbin: dapper..04:37
Warbojprce: Oh, OK. Just that I have never got GParted to actually write it's changes to disk (It says "this disc is active")04:38
fyrestrtrwhat applications are available for voice chatting? any? none?04:38
zeeblejust want to see what it is like from a new snapshot.04:38
zeeblefyrestrtr: skype.04:38
fyrestrtrzeeble: other than that?04:38
schirlocwell, any other suggestions?04:38
finleyZnarl: helo04:38
orbinnvm then... !e17 factoid only has a breezy repos04:38
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jprceWarbo, well that doesn't sound like it will help me. i don't need a program that does nothing04:38
Warbofyrestrtr: Gnomemeeting (now called Ekiga)04:38
arrickcan anyone here save text as ascii?04:38
fyrestrtrarrick: say what?04:39
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fyrestrtrWarbo: anything that is compatible with MSN?04:39
Warbojprce: That's what I'm saying, the KDE one is fine and so is the command line one (parted, the engine behind all of the ?Parteds)04:39
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|lostbyte_laptopHow do i get mplayer ?04:39
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arrickfyrestrtr, I used a script generator, and its telling me I have to save the script as a ascii file04:39
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Warbofyrestrtr: I think this is being worked on in GAIM, but nothing else comes to mind04:39
freezeyok nice thats obrin04:39
zeeble!mplayer04:39
uboturumour has it, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106104:39
freezeynow i got another problem haha04:39
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matth-wKopete is what I use for msn04:40
fyrestrtrmatth-w: does it do voice?04:40
jprceok04:40
jprceWarbo: i'll have to learn the commands for it then.04:40
freezeyI set ubuntu up on a poweredge 2500 knowin that it supports its perc raid04:40
matth-wNo...04:40
matth-wI don't think so04:40
freezeyand when i installed it showed me all th drives i have now when i search through the file system they are not there04:40
Warbojprce: I don't remember them myself, and I don't really want to screw up my new 250GB USB hard drive practicing, sorry04:40
fyrestrtrfreezey: they are probably not mounted.04:41
freezeyi thought i mounted them04:41
freezeymaybe i didn't04:41
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freezeyhm04:41
|lostbyte_laptopzeeble, its not there in apt-get ?04:41
fyrestrtrarrick: means save it as plain text, not binary, and not utf-804:41
fyrestrtrfreezey: type 'mount'04:41
arrickso ansi would be ok?04:41
jprceWarbo: haha don't be so modest04:41
Warbofreezey: If you don't have "execute" permissions on a directory then you can't see what's in it04:41
zeeble|lostbyte_laptop: read what the link told you.04:41
fyrestrtrarrick: yes04:41
|lostbyte_laptopzeeble, sorry ! i'll read.04:42
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jprceWarbo, alright i'll work it out myself. i have a bigger problem to deal with: there is something wrong with my locales. i get errors everytime i install something and i can't use dpkg sometimes04:42
|lostbyte_laptopzeeble, Package mplayer-386 is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:43
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Warbojprce: I had that in a Live CD I was (am) making. Couldn't be bothered to solve it as it would be automatically set on boot04:43
=== intuos3 thinks it will help a lot of people if the topic would include these lines: "for possible quick solution to your problems please consult this site: <http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu> before asking questions. If your issue isn't covered in the document, please ask out. :)"
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freezeymarbo: i am still new to all of this so what  am i lookin for exactly04:43
Warbofreezey: Is that for me?04:44
freezeymarbo: yeah04:44
intuos3that is a mine of information regarding ubuntu and i find it indispensable.04:44
|lostbyte_laptopzeeble, my apt-get cannot find it.04:44
antisocial_borisdamn, windows is screwing up my zipped files, its putting all the files in one directory, not in the directory they are meant to be in04:44
jprce?04:44
fyrestrtrintuos3: that would imply official endorsement of that site by ubuntu, and that's not something anyone here has the authority to do.04:44
orbinintuos3: if you haven't noticed.  most newbies don't read the topic04:44
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|lostbyte_laptopzeeble, ahh ! brb04:44
intuos3fyrestrtr: that's tough then. :)04:44
nsmithI have adobe acrobat pdf forms that I need to fill out.  The PDF document viewer will not allow me to do this.  Can anyone tell me what I need to do in order to fill out PDF forms?04:44
thoreauputicintuos3: that site has instructions for using automatix- there is no way we would recommend it04:44
fyrestrtrnsmith: you need the official acrobat reader.04:44
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nsmithacrobat reader is compatable with ubuntu?04:45
Warbofreezey: Each file/directory has read, write and execute permissions for it's owner,group and everyone else. If a directory is not owned by you (system is owned by root) and execute is not set then you can not even see inside it04:45
intuos3thoreauputic: well, we could always tell them to avoid automatix. :)04:45
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thoreauputicintuos3: we already do - all the time :)04:45
orbinnsmith: install acroread from the repos04:45
thoreauputic!automatix04:45
ubotumethinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.04:45
fyrestrtrintuos3: like that would work. Its like saying, there is the cookie jar, just don't take any.04:45
nsmithorbin: I am still a little new at ubuntu can you guide me?04:46
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Warbonsmith: There is a Linux version, but it is slow and ungly and big. There are LOADS of PDF viewers/makers in Linux04:46
thoreauputicintuos3: the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation site is a far better wiki recommendation04:46
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intuos3nsmith: see if this site will help you <http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu> just avoid automatics. :)04:46
N0ISVI guess, run the live CD first, get a feel for Linux, then install and run it from the hard drive?04:46
thoreauputicintuos3: and has the !docs trigger for ubotu04:46
nsmithintuos3: thanks will try04:47
freezeymarbo: ok ok so u wanna check i see what your sayin so my sda1 sdc1 and sdb1 all have rw on them04:47
intuos3thoreauputic: ok will check that out.04:47
orbinnsmith: you need to enable multiverse first: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto ... then sys>admin>synaptic ... search for acroread ... right-click>mark for install ... click on apply04:47
WarboN0ISV: That's what it's there for! (And to give to people who are scared of installing)04:47
freezeymarbo: my sda1 says rw,errors=remount  - ro)04:47
nsmithorbin: thanks will try04:47
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thoreauputicintuos3: also http://help.ubuntu.com04:47
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thoreauputicand04:47
thoreauputic!easyubuntu04:47
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu04:47
orbinN0ISV: just know that you can't install from the livecd ... at least for breezy.04:48
freezeymarbo: the others say (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)04:48
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slackernIs there a way to change the default port for incoming connections for the default bitorrent client?04:48
ramirezI need help with wine04:48
nsmithWhen I open synaptic I get the fallowing message W: No foi possvel executar stat  lista de pacotes de cdigo fonte http://cv.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/cv.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)04:48
Warbofreezey: OK. First it's a W (not being picky, but the posts with my name in change colour) and second: You are trying to access USB from an IDE (hda) system, yes?04:48
nsmithwhy is that?04:48
nsmithsorry its in portuguese04:48
nsmithlet me change that04:49
N0ISVYes I know, its just to get a feel for it...so to speak.04:49
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freezeywarbo: no04:49
fyrestrtrnsmith: run sudo apt-get sync04:49
Warbofreezey: Oh? Explain your drive set up to me04:49
_jasonfyrestrtr: what does apt-get sync do?04:49
freezeywarbo: maybe when i was changing my xerver.xorg it messed sumthin up.... but i have 3 scsi drives on a dell poweredge i am going to setup RAID 1 today but i wanna make sure these drives are all mounted before i do it04:50
OneSeventeenI am in despirate need of a update to my Ubuntu server, but am paranoid.  I'm making a .tgz of everything, but is there anything else I can do to be careful during the process?04:50
freezeywarbo: xserver-xorg04:50
Kamionnsmith: he meant 'sudo apt-get update', I imagine04:50
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nsmithok thanks04:50
fyrestrtryes, that is what I meant -- between two distros, and get the commands mixed :P04:50
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_jasonfyrestrtr: which distro uses sync?04:51
arrickanyone: how do I find the "cgi-bin" directory of my website with a ubuntu/apache2 server?04:51
fyrestrtr_jason: gentoo04:51
_jasonah04:51
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freezeywarbo: well atleast make sure i didn;t do anything wrong with them before i set up the raid 1...i chose ubuntu because i was originally using debian then i was using slackware but the PERC RAID is not supported and i had to go through using a 2.4.6 kernel04:51
fyrestrtr_jason: only its emerge sync04:51
freezeywarbo: so it was a pain....now i just chose ubuntu because of its hardware support for my system04:52
freezeywarbo: sorry for the life story haha04:52
Warbofreezey: Oh, OK. I just accocialte SDA with USB (even though it is SCSI). OK. Well, I would say that anything you are mounting that you want your narmal user to own should have the options "defaults,users,uid=yourusername,exec,rw" that was my little nugget of advice. I have no experience with RAID (but plenty of LVM)04:52
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jprcedoes anyone know how to fix broken locales?04:53
freezeywarbo: ok so how do i set those drives to that04:53
freezeywarbo: 2 more questions also04:53
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freezeywarbo: my sda1 is a etx3 and the others are NTFS don;t know why either04:54
OneSeventeenI tried to make a backup using tar cvpzf backup.tgz / --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys but I just noticed that it was hanging while trying to store /proc/kcore.... but wasn't /proc/ excluded?!04:54
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freezeywarbo: and why does it have (rw, errors=remount.ro) after my sda1 drive04:54
freezeywarbo: my question is just about the errors part04:55
|lostbyte_laptopcan some one pass me their source.list file ?04:55
|lostbyte_laptopi cant seem to apt-get mplayer04:55
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arrickhey guys, when using live cd, why would it not see a hard drive?04:55
zeebleI would but i have dapper. not breezy.04:55
thoreauputic!tell |lostbyte_laptop about repos04:55
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fyrestrtrOneSeventeen: read the manual page for tar, that's not how your use --exclude04:55
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orbinarrick: how are you looking for it?04:55
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Warbofreezey: The errors says that if something goes wrong when mount ing your drive (this is / yes?) then it will get mounted as read only. That is why you may end up with a read-only system if you have to check your root disk for errors (you get rw when you reboot)04:56
OneSeventeen:(  (I was going off an ubuntu post that I swore I've used before... oh well, that's what I get for not checking the manual first)04:56
arrickorbin, terminal I am trying to help someone unbork their partition table04:56
freezeywarbo: ok cool04:56
arrickorbin, check this out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1260104:56
freezeywarbo: so how do i mount those other 2?04:57
Warbofreezey: The first post I said about "options" is what you should have in the options column in /etc/fstab for a filesystem that you want to own as your user (don't do it on system stuff, just extra personal files and Windows partitions)04:57
|lostbyte_laptopthoreauputic, how to tell which ubuntu version i am using at the moment ?04:57
piphello!04:58
thoreauputic|lostbyte_laptop:  lsb_release -a04:58
paxuname -a04:58
thoreauputicpax: no04:58
paxok04:58
|lostbyte_laptopthoreauputic, thanxx04:58
thoreauputicpax: although that will tell the kernel04:58
freezeywarbo: so i do it through the /etc/fstab?04:58
paxno problem.04:58
pipcan I use Delphi on ubuntu ?04:58
Warbofreezey: To mount ntfs just use regular mount command "sudo mount /dev/sdwhatever /place/to/mount -t ntfs -o optionslikeIexplained"04:58
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OneSeventeenfyrestrtr: to be sure I'm reading this correctly, I should basically just put --exclude /proc --exclude /lost+found .. etc. etc.?04:58
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imperfect-Anyone know what drake was postponed?04:58
paxhow about cat /etc/debian_version will work? :-)04:59
freezeywarbo: and the options were "defaults,users,uid=yourusername,exec,rw" right?04:59
Frogzooimperfect-: linkie?04:59
orbinarrick: over my head i'm afraid.  Warbo: any ideas on this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12601 ?04:59
thoreauputicpax: no it will just say testing/unstable04:59
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imperfect-Frogzoo: linkie?04:59
paxthoreauputic: are you using dapper?04:59
thoreauputicpax: cat /etc/issue works though04:59
Frogzooimperfect-: last I heard release was june 1 - do you have a link to a recent update?04:59
Warbofreezey: Yes /etc/fstab sores the info for mounting stuff at boot (but not things like hot-plug Pen Drives) The options I gave you need to be in the right order as well04:59
walteri dont have sound in ubuntu who can help me?04:59
thoreauputicpax: not yet - I'm on dialup04:59
imperfect-Frogzoo: well it was supposed to be today, previous.05:00
Frogzoo!dapper05:00
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)05:00
imperfect-Frogzoo: it was pushed back... just wondering why05:00
paxthoreauputic: god forbid.05:00
freezeywarbo: ok let me see how this goes thanks dude05:00
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Warboorbin: Loading05:00
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Plitskinwhere can I find the php config file?05:00
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imperfect-Plitskin : locate php.ini05:00
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Plitskinimperfect: thanks05:00
thoreauputicpax: she didn't, unfortunately ;)05:00
Kamionimperfect-: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-March/000058.html05:01
paxthoreauputic: I can see that, you're not a fan of her blog by any chance?05:01
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OneSeventeenfyrestrtr: how do I use --exclude?  Most tutorials/man pages I've found don't deviate from what I posted...05:01
Warboarrick: Need help? I'm no expert remember05:01
thoreauputicpax: depends which translation ;)05:01
Henk!broadcom05:01
ubotuhmm... broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards05:01
Plitskinthat's weird... why would it be named as .ini file... isn't that for windows?05:02
Warbowalter: What does Device Manager say? Also what version are you running? (of Ubuntu)05:02
arrickWarbo, Im trying to help agliv5 get his partition manager unborked05:02
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imperfect-I see.05:02
freezeywarbo: can i pm you what just came out just so u can tell me if its right or not?05:02
imperfect-Thanks.05:02
arrickhe has 3 partitions spanning the same block05:02
Warboarrick: I didn't think there'd be anyone else who was following my gpart advice :)05:02
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asteowqguys, if my access point can see my laptop in the mac table, yet I can't ping the router (the laptop doesnt seem to be receiving packets).  What should I be looking for?05:02
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Warbofreezey: Go on then, just this once05:03
arrickWarbo, huh?05:03
bliss1_Frogzoo: HI installed 0.8.0 ok can you please pastebin the script please? :)05:03
rcaskey_hrmm, noone has submitted the story to digg yet...05:04
Warboarrick: I'm assuming those recovered (partially) partitions are found by gpart, which I had previously told him to get05:04
arrickyep05:04
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arrickWarbo, yep05:04
Jowiasteowq: accesslist/filters in either router or AP, depending on what they support. Maybe the laptop can connect but is not allowed to do a thing.05:04
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Warboagliv5: Do you have data on ALL of the partitions, or ones that aren't overlapping?05:05
Jowiasteowq: might also be a weak signal. hard to say05:05
Frogzoobliss1_: no05:05
arrickWarbo05:05
Warboarrick: Yes?05:05
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asteowqJowi, thanks! But I've turned all restrictions off on the router to eliminate that.  Other laptops seem to connect fine.05:05
bliss1_Frogzoo: ok nevermind just thought I ask05:05
arrickI had him delete the fat partitions and he says now there is noting left for partitions at all05:05
antisocial_borisprobably not a great place to ask but what is the dos equivalent of ls?05:06
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ebwHello! In my system there is a pci wlan card with acx111 chipset. The module gets loaded in spite of it is not mentioned in /etc/modules. How does this work?05:06
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walterhelp me with my sound05:06
Warboarrick: I was wondering about whether data is spread all over the place or whether they are just new, empty partitions05:06
Jowiasteowq: ip conflict? you could try to assign a static ip to that mac-address just to make sure05:06
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Warboantisocial_boris: dir05:06
Jowiasteowq: if you use the routers dhcp that is05:06
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asteowqJowi: tried the static address, I cant seem to get a DHCP address though.05:07
Warbowalter: What does device manager say and which version of Ubuntu are you using (sorry if I missed your response before)05:07
arrickWarbo, it has about 3 gigs in the ntfs file that is spanned05:07
|lostbyte_laptopwhich is the latest breezy or dapper ?05:07
_jason|lostbyte_laptop: breezy is latest stable05:08
Warbo|lostbyte_laptop: breezy is stable, dapper is unstable (technically)05:08
Jowiasteowq: how about turning off firewalls on the laptop? seems strange you can connect but not get an ip through dhcp05:08
|lostbyte_laptop_jason, Warbo : ok i get it. tx05:08
freezeywarbo: so what u think warbo05:08
caonexcan anyone tell me why the new beta dowload link is broken05:08
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caonexit has been released already05:08
OneSeventeenhow do I exclude directories when using tar?05:08
Kamionwhich link, where?05:09
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Warbofreezey: Have you sent me anything? Nothing here05:09
caonexKamion: ubuntu website05:09
Kamioncaonex: ^--05:09
Kamioncaonex: where on the website?05:09
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KamionURL please05:09
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_jasoncaonex: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ seems to work here05:09
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caonexKamion: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing05:09
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caonexKamion: the top part says 6.06 beta released today05:09
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orbinOneSeventeen: maybe you need to do --exclude=/dir/* instead of just /dir05:10
Kamioncaonex: yes - and the links from that page work?05:10
Warboarrick: Just had an important question but answeded it myself :) (it is Win 95 extended not Linux extended)05:10
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bliss1_ompaul: hi getting warmer05:10
|lostbyte_laptophas anyone have any idea on gtk gui configuration ?05:10
Kamioncaonex: which link exactly is broken? I'm one of the people who can fix it, but I need you to give me details05:10
arrickWarbo, correct05:11
|lostbyte_laptopi want to change the font of all gtk app's.. !! cause they look so big and ugly. !!05:11
Toma-its amazing how fast the latest fluxbox is... it almost makes things load faster :O05:11
Plitskinexit05:11
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arrickanyone: how do I find the "cgi-bin" directory of my website with a ubuntu/apache2 server?05:11
OneSeventeenorbin: thanks, I'll try that and see if it works...05:11
caonexKamion: yeah they all do05:11
jmspeexHas anyone found a solution to keep gam_server from eating up all CPU?05:11
Toma-arrick: it should be /cgi-bin05:12
caonexKamion: not broken anymore05:12
caonexKamion: has just been fixed05:12
orbin|lostbyte_laptop: those are gtk1 apps.05:12
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Jowi|lostbyte_laptop: "gnome-font-properties"05:12
arrickToma-, thanks05:12
orbin|lostbyte_laptop: which one in particular irks you?05:12
Warboarrick: OK, I would suggest fiddling with it in a graphical tool like QTParted which doesn't apply until you tell it. Maybe resize things out of the way(but will it load a disk in such a state?)05:13
arrickToma-, there is no /cgi-bin05:13
freezeytell warbo: yeah i sent it to you05:13
Warbofreezey: I have nothing. Use pastebin05:13
jadaz87jmspeex what is gam_server?05:13
nsmithI downloaded open office Portuguese but when I try and open it I get an error that says "cannot open, archive type not supported"05:13
Toma-arrick: are you on the server now? is it your machine?05:13
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nsmithwhat can I do to solve this?05:13
arrickWarbo, not sure, Im haveing him try the win partition manager right quick05:13
arrickToma-, Im sshed into the server right now05:13
nsmithit is .rpm05:13
Warboarrick: OK.05:13
Toma-arrick: ahh. probablt /var/www/cgi-bin or something05:14
freezeywarbo: join channel freeze05:14
Warbonsmith: that is from a RedHat system, Ubuntu is Debianb (.deb) based05:14
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nsmithWarbo: ok I did not know there was a difference05:14
jadaz87nsmith you have to get the .deb file05:14
Toma-nsmith: try using alian to convert it to a deb file05:14
jadaz87!tell nsmith about alien05:14
Toma-err alien05:14
arrickToma-, there is no cgi-bin in the www, can I just create one?05:14
Toma-arrick: yep05:15
arrickok thanks05:15
Warbonsmith: You can convert .rpm into .deb using alien, but trying to find a deb is better05:15
nsmithok thanks05:15
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LadyVixWarbo: I set it to download KDE thru synaptic05:15
Warbofreezey: Not there (did "Get List" as well)05:16
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OneSeventeennope, --exclude=dir/* does not work05:16
WarboLadyVix: OK. When it's done just log out and there is a button for Session. Choose KDE and tell it to save it05:16
freezeywarbo: ok how do i use this pastebin thing05:17
LadyVixWarbo: ok.... if i like kde should i remove gnome?05:17
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orbinOneSeventeen: http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/html_node/tar_102.html05:17
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anikahola alguien abla05:18
|lostbyte_laptoporbin, Jowi: the firefox menu fonts.. also i am using kubuntu.. so no gnome programs.05:18
WarboLadyVix: It depends on how much space you have. You can use GNOME apps in KDE and KDE in GNOME. Also you should keep the GTK libraries (that draw GNOME's buttons and stuff) and lots of programs use them05:18
Guru_http://bigtitsroundasses.bangbros1.com/gal/298/p/bavideopost/  http://www.sog10.com/gallery01/c2100k/index.html05:18
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jmspeexjadaz87: It's a file monitoring daemon whose main purpose is to eat more CPU than all applications being monitored.05:18
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orbin|lostbyte_laptop: ah, gnoem apps in kde.  well, kde apps look butt-uglt here in gnome too :)05:19
Warbofreezey: Go on pastebin.com and paste what you want to paste there, click send then give me the URL in the localtion bar05:19
orbins/uglt/ugly05:19
LadyVixWarbo: I have a 250 GB harddrive i aloted about 75 gig to Ubuntu05:19
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Dr_Willis75gb is plenty big. :P05:19
OneSeventeenorbin: yup, I've read that before, still can't figure it out.05:19
WarboLadyVix: May as well keep GNOME then :)05:19
LadyVixWarbo: :P05:19
da3rX|Workhow much space does ubuntu take?05:19
Dr_WillisI install about everything i can find.. and dont think im over 100gb..05:19
fyrestrtrda3rX|Work: around 4 GB05:20
Dr_Willisand thats counting a few dozen gb of video/music.05:20
OneSeventeenI'm trying a simple backup of my home directory on my laptop now, and simply want to exclude ~/.mozilla and every combination I've tried hasn't worked05:20
Frogzooda3rX|Work: depends, but 20gig without skimping means not having to worry about space05:20
da3rX|Work10 gig partition should be decent for a first time user?05:20
orbinOneSeventeen: i think the main point is to use quotes... try this:  --exclude '/dir/*'05:20
freezeywarbo:http://pastebin.com/67146305:20
LadyVixWarbo: the only things i told it not to download were the foreign language packs05:20
WarboDr_Willis: I think my system is bloated if it is over 10GB05:20
freezeywarbo: http://pastebin.com/67146305:20
Dr_WillisWarbo,  well you are a Linux Snob anyway. :P05:20
Frogzooda3rX|Work: not enough if you intend to play around & install everything05:20
OneSeventeenorbin: nope, still doesn't exclude directories.05:20
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tonyyarussoI have ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop, and a half-dozen other window managers and a bunch of other stuff in under 7GB.05:21
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k31thHow do i setup linux to use NTP (from the cmd line) i want to use a server not run one.05:21
Dr_WillisWarbo,  ive been trying to clean up my hard drives honest! :P but the files just keep appearing! lol.05:21
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WarboDr_Willis: Then turn off BitTorrent :)05:21
Dr_Willisk31th,  i think ya use the ntpclient. i saw a wiki page mentionign that.05:21
librohola05:21
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Dr_WillisWarbo,  i know. :P  but its for research!05:21
arrickHey, does apache2 have cgisupport by default?05:21
rohanwhat is ubuntu "LTS" ?05:21
rohanwhat is LTS ?05:21
Warbofreezey: You took me a bit too literally there05:21
librohello05:22
tonyyarussoDr_Willis: Research?05:22
sobbbberany unix-compatible editor for ubuntu?05:22
Frogzooarrick: more than likely - check the config05:22
arrickFrogzoo, how do I check?05:22
libroI 'm spanish05:22
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thoreauputicsobbbber: erm... rather a lot05:22
sobbbbergive one please.. one that i can easily install05:22
Warbofreezey: You can access your partition/drive from anywhere and I put "/place/to/mount" to mean wherever you wanted it to go (probably in /mnt would be sensible) also there is a space after the device name. That's it05:22
gnomefreaklibro: try #ubuntu-es for spanish05:22
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LadyVixWarbo: 8 minute countdown :P05:23
Frogzooarrick: man apache2 - scroll to bottom & see 'files'05:23
thoreauputicsobbbber: nano, vim, emacs21, kate, gedit, scite .....05:23
Dr_Willissobbbber,  like 'vi' ya mean?05:23
arrickthanks05:23
libroI like the films american pie and resident evil05:23
_jason!offtopic05:23
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!05:23
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|lostbyte_laptoporbin, firefox is gtk right ?05:23
orbinOneSeventeen: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-October/061396.html05:23
WarboLadyVix: What speed you got (I was on 1Mb before but I'm on 2Mb with 20GB limit now)05:23
thoreauputicsobbbber: you already have vim and nano05:23
gnomefreaklibro: this is not a general chat channel please join either #ubuntu-es or ubuntu-offtopic05:23
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orbin|lostbyte_laptop: not sure05:23
orbin|lostbyte_laptop: surely there's a qt version?05:24
librohola05:24
arrick!es05:24
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:24
LadyVixWarbo: is that meant to be sarcastic or not? i can never tell in IRC :P i lose most of my bandwidth due to my home network05:24
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WarboLadyVix: Just an innocent question (wondering how much of KDE you are getting)05:24
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orbinOneSeventeen: probably a bad link.  i'm even more confused :-/05:25
|lostbyte_laptoporbin, ok !05:25
OneSeventeenorbin: awsome!05:25
arrickFrogzoo, it doesnt show any cgi in there05:25
Warbofreezey: Have you tried what I said?05:25
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LadyVixWarbo: i'm getting everything but the language files and tutors...and I dont know my actual speed....i'm on DSL in the middle of nowhere...05:25
orbinOneSeventeen: it worked? :-/05:25
Tayrahttp://bigtitsroundasses.bangbros1.com/gal/298/p/bavideopost/  http://www.sog10.com/gallery01/c2100k/index.html05:25
OneSeventeenorbin: basically just needed to put --exclude directly after the tar command..05:25
jadaz87!ops05:26
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orbinOneSeventeen: where di you put it originally?05:26
thoreauputicwhat's the problem?05:26
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OneSeventeenorbin: so tar --exclude=dir1 --exclude=dir2 --exclude=dir3 -cvpzf backup.tgz /path/to/directory/to/archive05:26
arrickban Tayra05:26
gnomefreakban tayra Amaranth05:26
jadaz87thoreauputic Tayra05:26
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apokryphos:)05:26
gnomefreakplease05:26
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OneSeventeenorbin: I put it after the path to directory to archive as per: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3508705:26
arrickthey will be back05:26
gnomefreakAmaranth: its a bot05:27
arrickyep05:27
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gnomefreakAmaranth: the bots have been bad today05:27
Frogzoo|lostbyte_laptop: ldd /opt/firefox/firefox-bin05:27
orbinOneSeventeen: glad you worked it out05:27
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Warbofreezey: Did you try what I said? Put a space after the device and change /place/to/mount to /mnt05:28
gnomefreakty05:28
orbinOneSeventeen: did people complain about it not working in that thread?05:28
gnomefreakbrb gotta call this guy for key signing :(05:28
freezeywarbo: sorry had to run to the bathroom05:28
Warbofreezey: lol05:28
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OneSeventeenorbin: near the very end... apparently that thread was from Hoary!  oops!05:28
Warbofreezey: See last post05:28
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librohello05:28
jadaz87hello05:29
orbinOneSeventeen: still.....tar is tar05:29
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librospeakin spanish05:29
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jadaz87!tell libro about es05:29
librospeaking spanish?05:29
LadyVixWarbo: 3 minute countdown then i have to logout :P05:30
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libroI live in spain05:30
arrickjadams, libro knows, wont go, been told many times, and even pm'd me a few minutes ago05:30
librohola05:30
cello_raspdamn, damn, damn. i was transferring some files to my ipod shuffle and nautilus paused on one file. After a minute, nautilus crashed, and now won't restart. the shuffle cannot be written to or unmounted.05:30
librohablo espaol05:30
OneSeventeenorbin: apparently the only real change I needed to make was putting the directory path at the end of the command, and leaving everything else where it was05:30
WarboLadyVix: You don't have to, but what's the point downloading KDE and notusung it?05:30
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Warbo!es05:30
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:30
freezeywarbo: mount: /dev/sdc1 already mounted or /mnt busy05:31
freezeymount: according to mtab, /dev/sdc1 is mounted on /media/New Volume05:31
freezey thats what comes up05:31
jadaz87libro join this channet:   #ubuntu-es05:31
jadaz87libro channel*05:31
LadyVixWarbo: thats what killed my first 6 computer configurations.... :P05:31
OneSeventeenalthough now I'm wondering if I should have excluded the apt cache as well... oh well, its not too big05:31
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Warbofreezey: OK, run "mount" and copy the line with sdc1 here05:31
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agliv5Hey all :)  I killed my partitions table, but posted it (paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12603) before doing so... so I know the correct values, how to I fix the table?05:32
nsmithI have been trying to figure out how to share files with other users on the same computer with ubuntu.  I got some info off of ubuntoforums and did the fallowing : ln -s /share /home/username.  In my home folder I now have a folder named share that is locked.  I cannot change the permission and I cannot put files into it or delete it.  When I try it says I do not have permission.  Any help?05:32
LadyVixWarbo I'll be right back05:32
Warboagliv5: Well arrick left so it's me again05:32
Frogzooagliv5: with fdisk & a lot of luck05:32
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Amaranthnsmith: sudo chmod 755 /share05:32
Amaranthnsmith: run that from a terminal05:32
agliv5Warbo, don't you feel lucky ;)05:32
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Warboagliv5: You used Gpart to get back the partitions? (But now they overlap)05:33
librohello05:33
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Frogzooagliv5: that's perfect - just recreate the partition table, assigning the exact same # of blocks05:33
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jadaz87libro people speak spanish in #ubuntu-es05:33
Warbofreezey: No need for pastebin for 1 line05:33
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hmrochahello, i'm having a real trouble with nfs in ubuntu05:34
Warbojadaz87: Hello isn't spanish05:34
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hmrochai have a centos 4.3 server exporting a directory05:34
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nsmithAmaranth: did that and nothing happened05:34
aridesehow do i restart apache?05:34
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joelbryanlibro, try http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport05:34
Amaranthnsmith: share dir in your home folder is still locked?05:34
skphi, neidea how do i install gcc-3.2 on Breezy ... in the sense ffmpeg works fine only with a compilation by gcc3205:34
Warboaridese: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart05:34
agliv5Warbo no it's a bit more complicated... post 12506 is what the table looked like before I started messing things up05:34
nsmithAmaranth: yes05:34
hmrochaand ubuntu 5.10 clients log that "nfs warning: mount version older than kernel"05:34
jadaz87WArbo libroI live in spain librohablo espaol05:35
hmrochawhat might be happening?05:35
aridesethanks!05:35
Amaranthnsmith: ls -l /home/<username>/share05:35
Warboagliv5: Because it was fine then...05:35
Amaranthnsmith: paste the result here (should only be one line)05:35
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OneSeventeenI just ran the following command:05:35
Warbojadaz87: I know, but maybe turned a new leaf05:35
xnullwtf05:35
agliv5Warbo and post 12603 is what the table looked like before I wiped it out05:35
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xnullI can`t do sudo05:35
xnullsudo su my pass and nothing happens05:35
bliss1_Frogzoo: have you set a few custom permission rules in /etc/udev/permissions.d/udev.permissions05:35
bliss1_ for kqemu?05:35
Warboxnull: Are you in admin group?05:35
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agliv5Warbo yesterday the world was in best order ;)05:36
xnullyes05:36
OneSeventeentar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys --exclude=/media /05:36
nsmithAmaranth: total 005:36
Warboxnull: Are your networking things OK?05:36
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eddie_stonebitchx sux..05:36
Amaranthnsmith: err, that's not possible05:36
xnullemi@u2:~$ sudo -s05:36
xnullemi@u2:~$05:36
xnullnothing05:36
OneSeventeenand the output: backup.tgz  is 428255031 bytes... does that sound too small?05:36
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nsmithAmaranth: thats what it says05:36
Amaranthnsmith: if you have a share file in your home dir then that should have listed it05:36
librohola05:36
librohello05:36
Amaranthnsmith: replace <username> with your username, if you didn't already05:36
nsmithAmaranth: did that05:37
agliv5Warbo, based on post 12603, how do I recreate my partations table?05:37
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Warbolibro: Hello05:37
OneSeventeenso an entire system backup was less than half a gig with tar cvpzf?  (it is a server setup, but still...)05:37
Frogzoobliss1_: I run the script from sudo, not exactly ideal05:37
xnullwarbo: uid=1000(emi) gid=1000(emi) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),106(admin),1000(emi)05:37
agliv5hi libro05:37
eddie_stonewhat is the best irc client? (graphic)05:37
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nsmithAmaranth:  There is a folder named share but if I do not think it is actually shared05:37
xnullediie_stone: xchat05:37
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nsmithAmaranth:  and I cannot get rid of it05:38
librohello agliv505:38
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librowhats your name?05:38
LadyVixWarbo: I"m back :P05:38
eddie_stoneok thanks05:38
ericbwHello!05:38
agliv5Libro Arne and your's? got a problem or just here to chat?05:38
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nsmithAmaranth:  Anything else?05:39
agliv5I think we lost Warbo...05:39
ericbwMy system loads acx module at bootup. But's not in /etc/modules, how happens this?05:39
Warboagliv5: OK, so I can see that 1, 7 and 8 are independant, it is just 5 and 605:39
bliss1_Frogzoo: ok , so i expect a pastebin of that is out of the question?05:39
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ericbwI need to pass an option to acx, correcting the firmware version, but an /etc/modules entry does not work.05:39
agliv5Warbo 5, 6, and 205:39
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agliv5Warbo 5 is correct, 6 and 2 are wrong05:40
Warboagliv5: It looks like 2 has been extended backwards, but it still fits seemlessly with 105:40
xnullFUCK I CAN`t do sudo after I upgrade my box05:40
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jadaz87!tell xnull about language05:40
Warboxnull: Fix it in recovery (single)05:40
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bliss1_xnull: less of the explitives man05:41
agliv5true, and there is a unintentinal gap between 1 and 5, but believe me 5 is correct05:41
WarboLadyVix: Sorry but I was caught up trying to piece together this partition table05:41
skp hi, ne idea how do i install gcc-3.2 on Breezy ?? ... in the sense ffmpeg works fine only with a compilation by gcc3205:41
orbinskp: so the repos compiled version doesn't work?05:41
agliv5Warbo, did you get that last post, forgot to address it ;)05:42
LadyVixWarbo: salright... :P I have to leave in 20 to head to work anyway... I'm going to play with Konqueror05:42
Warboagliv5: First thing I would say is don't extend any partitions. Gaps don't matter, overlap does05:42
bossa_novawhat was the big firefox update today? (i don't track ubuntu's version, i have my own build under /opt)05:42
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agliv5I didn't extend any partitions05:42
skporbin, no the binaries work like ffplay and ffmpeg05:42
freezeywarbo: sorry what did u ask for my boss needed help with something05:42
orbinbossa_nova: 1.0.805:42
libropussy05:42
agliv5damm keep forgeting to address05:42
skporbin, but if I code using libavcodecs and all its a prob05:42
agliv5Warbo I didn't extend anything05:42
skporbin, basically I just somehow need to install gcc-3.2 ne help??05:43
Warbofreezey: I asked for the line from "mount" (by itself) which has that device in, just paste it in here as it is 1 line05:43
xnullemi@u2:~$ sudo su05:43
xnullemi@u2:~$05:43
xnull hm its a bug in sudo05:43
Frogzoobliss1_: please don't persist05:43
bossa_novaorbin: wow, that is a huge leap for them05:43
Warboagliv5: I'm saying there is a gap between 1 and 5 but that isn't the problem05:43
orbinskp: i can't see it in the repos...05:43
agliv5skp have you tried apt-get install gcc?05:43
bossa_novaorbin: i have 1.5 :)05:43
freezeywarbo: this one? /dev/sdc1 already mounted or /mnt busy05:43
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jadaz87xnull the pasword input is not coming up right?05:43
xnulljadaz87: no05:43
thoreauputicxnull: try sudo -i05:43
agliv5Warbo yep05:43
skpagliv, that will give me gcc-4.005:44
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orbinbossa_nova: me too. 1.5.0.2 to be exact.  i just got the cpu spike that was supposed to be removed though :-/05:44
xnullemi@u2:~$ sudo -i05:44
xnullemi@u2:~$05:44
xnull\05:44
Warbofreezey: Run "mount" by itself and paste the line it gives about sdc105:44
xnullnothing05:44
skpagliv, which is nuthing but problematic05:44
orbins/removed/fixed05:44
freezeywarbo: /dev/sdc1 on /media/New Volume type ntfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)05:44
thoreauputicxnull: odd05:44
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WarboBrb05:44
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jadaz87xnull thoreauputic more and more breezy users are having this problem i have it every other time i rtestart/shutdown my laptop05:44
Frogzooxnull: 'id' ?05:44
bossa_novaorbin: you are way ahead of me -- i have 1.5.0.1 =(05:44
TokenBadI have 1.0.7 firefox05:44
agliv5skp go to Synaptic packetmanager05:44
TokenBadhow do I update it05:44
skpagliv, sudo apt-get install gcc05:44
skpReading package lists... Done05:44
skpBuilding dependency tree... Done05:44
skpgcc is already the newest version.05:44
skp0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 73 not upgraded.05:44
xnullfrogzzo : uid=1000(emi) gid=1000(emi) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),106(admin),1000(emi)05:45
xnull05:45
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thoreauputicjadaz87: hrm - I don't see it here05:45
orbinbossa_nova: i suggest you upgrade ... takes 10 secs and it seems a bit quicker05:45
skpagliv, I know the repos dont have gcc-3.205:45
xnullUbuntu 6.06 "Dapper Drake" Development Branch \n \l05:45
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xnullits dapper..05:45
bossa_novaTokenBad: hold on, I will paste a very useful link05:45
xnullwhere do I report the bug?:D05:45
orbinbossa_nova: instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion05:45
agliv5skp there should be an option to install previous versions05:45
Warboback05:45
ConfidentiaLHave just reinstalled, but had a miss on the partitions. What are the normal contents of /home exept for the user's home folders?05:45
Frogzooxnull: someone will know in #ubuntu+105:45
jadaz87thoreauputic every other time i restart and try and do sudo all i get is a blinking cursor and no password input05:45
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bossa_novahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion05:46
mjrConfidentiaL, not really anything else, customarily05:46
bossa_novaTokenBad: damn, orbin beat me to it05:46
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Warbofreezey: "sudo umount /media/New\ Volume" then retry the previous command (the sdc1 bust one)05:46
thoreauputicjadaz87: on breezy? Have you checked launchpad to see if anyone else is reporting this?05:46
Jowixnull: bug-reporting for dapper : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs05:46
Warbobusy05:46
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bossa_novaorbin: yep, that's the walkthrough I followed, it was a few weeks ago though05:46
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MyLadyWarbo: *blinks*05:47
jadaz87thoreauputic no i have not but i have not been the only one in here who has had this problem the past couple of days05:47
agliv5Warbo like you said the gap between 1 and 5 isn't the problem, so what do I do to recreate the table?05:47
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orbinbossa_nova: yes but moving from 1.5 to 1.5.0.2 is described there too05:47
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thoreauputicjadaz87: worth reporting then - I can't confirm the bug here though05:47
bossa_novaTokenBad: that will get you the newest version, and you will learn a lot about how your bookmarks, extensions and profiles are managed with firefox05:47
freezeywarbo: what was that command? sudo umount /media/new/volume05:48
eddie_stonedoes anybody uses the dapper version? is the stable?05:48
Warboagliv5: Hang on hang on I'm thinkiing (the block numbers are going all blurry I'm thinking so hard)05:48
freezeywarbo: was that it05:48
Frogzoo!dapper05:48
bossa_novaorbin: i'm a big dummy, i didn't read all the way to the end05:48
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)05:48
GameCathi - can anyone tell me how to control the display power management while the machine is sitting waiting for someone to log in?05:48
agliv5Warbo, take your time :)05:48
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ConfidentiaLis it possible to get lampp from apt-get ? or do I need to download it from the net?05:48
Warbofreezey: it is a backslash followed by a space between new and volume, and those 2 words start with captials05:48
agliv5Warbo, please don't explode ;)05:48
Frogzoo!lamp05:48
ubotuLinux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP05:48
orbinbossa_nova: i didnt' find it @ first.  just click on the link in the box at the top saying upgrading from 1.505:49
orbinit's basically 3 steps05:49
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freezeywarbo: ok as soon as i ran that command a dialog box came up (mnt - filebrowser)05:50
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freezeywarbo: oh sweet its mounted05:50
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freezeywarbo: /dev/sdc1 on /mnt type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000)05:50
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freezeywarbo: so now that drives name is /mnt ?05:50
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msoulHello, till now I haven't any useful info about configure xorg on my toshiba laptop05:51
msoulall I found was05:51
thorreis there a hardware compability list? i am having a bit of a problem with a HP nw8240, that laptop has a ATI Fire Gl v5000 gpu05:51
thorreis that supported by ubuntu?05:51
msoulhttp://eavr.u-strasbg.fr05:51
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msouland unfortunately this site -- down05:51
orbinthorre: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport == user's experience05:51
Warbofreezey: You may have to "sudo chown yourusername /mnt" Well, you didn't really get what I meant when I put /place/to/mount so I replaced it with /mnt. You can mount it to any folder that exists (don't do it directly to /home/username as it will make your settings invisible)05:51
msoulhe has the same and had the same issue05:52
orbinthorre: next step is to search the forum if it's not there05:52
thorreok05:52
msoulcould anyone help me with my xorg.conf?05:52
orbinmsoul: what's the issue?05:52
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msoulorbin: I can't startx05:52
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msoulall I see is blank blackscreen05:52
orbinmsoul: did you get a blue screen?05:52
freezeywarbo: ok so i can just create any folding and mount it to that one?05:52
JinkgunsI have a quick question, my laptop uses either ethernet or wireless, but when I don't have either connected during startup, it hangs for about 5 minutes before continuing to boot up, is there any way to fix this? Or is this a 'feature' ;)05:52
orbinmsoul: can you get to a prompt?05:52
Warbofreezey: To make it permanent just add those details to /etc/fstab (the device, mount point [where it is put] , type, options and 0 0 at the end)05:52
msoulyeah that's what I did05:52
msoulby ctrl-alt f105:53
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eddie_stonewhat is the command to I see the entrymsg of a channel?05:53
msoulswitching till f7 that it's blank05:53
tabasola05:53
tabas quetal05:53
Warbofreezey: Exactly (don't make it take over your Home folder, or any other important system folder. Only empty ones)05:53
msoulorbin: and I honestly don't know what to doi05:53
orbinmsoul: run this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:53
thoreauputiceddie_stone:  /topic ?05:53
orbinmsoul: what vg card btw?05:53
msoulorbin: I did05:53
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eddie_stonethoffmeyer:  no, entrymsg05:53
tabasspanis05:53
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tonyyarusso!es05:54
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:54
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thoreauputiceddie_stone: erm - entrymsg ?05:54
freezeywarbo: ok so how do i change the it tho05:54
orbinmsoul: you did the reconfigure?05:54
eddie_stonemaybe05:54
thoreauputiceddie_stone: what do you mean?05:54
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agliv5Warbo, you don't need to fiqure out the start and end points for me... I just would like to know how to recreate the Table, the rest I'll figure out myself or with assistance later on...05:54
msoulorbin: yeah I did05:54
Frogzooagliv5: fdisk05:54
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msoulorbin: toshiba satellite m70 14405:55
msoulthat's what I have05:55
msoulI've been trying everything05:56
msoulsince yesterday with no success05:56
agliv5Frogzoo fdisk... then what?05:56
orbinmsoul: lspci | grep VGA05:56
tonyyarussothoreauputic: Some channles send a message to your server window upon joining.  He wants that.05:56
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bliss1_Frogzoo: think I have solved it here is kernel line does the mem= the total  amount of RAM can use with qemu?  KQEMU installed, max_instances=4 max_locked_mem=88856kB.05:56
MyLadyAll: see you all later... I have to go to work now05:56
Warboagliv5: I'm glancing through the man pages for parted, gpart and fdisk05:56
thoreauputictonyyarusso: ah05:56
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eddie_stonethoreauputic: when you enter in a channel, the chanserv sends a notice to you, with a message about the channel, this is the entrymessage05:56
Warbofreezey: Sorry, didn't understand that last post05:57
freezeywarbo: i can just unmount it them remount it right?05:57
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WarboMyLady: Bye05:57
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freezeywarbo: to change the location?05:57
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thoreauputiceddie_stone: what I see is the topic05:57
agliv5Warbo take your time, but as I said... you don't have to figure out the new start and end points for me05:57
msoulorbin: ati technologies: unknown device 565305:57
Warbofreezey: Yes (the unmount command is just umount)05:57
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freezeywarbo: ok let me try this05:57
orbinmsoul: sudo update-pciids05:57
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orbinmsoul: then re-run the last command05:57
thoreauputiceddie_stone: or do you mean the part that tells you how many are in the channel etc?05:58
eddie_stonethoreauputic: the topic isn't a notice05:58
Frogzoobliss1_: try 'qemu -h'05:58
Warbofreezey: You can move it using mount --move oldfoler newfolder but that is more for moving folders around with filesystems (without actually moving them if you know what I mean)05:58
eddie_stonethoreauputic: for example, you can see at the fedora channel05:58
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orangehawis there an interface available to (gui) configure a printershare?05:59
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freezeywarbo: so now would the command just be "sudo umount /mnt05:59
msoulorbin: what last command if I may ask?05:59
eddie_stonethoreauputic: saw it?05:59
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msoulthe startx you mean?05:59
jadaz87hello whould this command copy all of the contents of new into skel?: sudo cp /home/joejaxx/Desktop/new/* /mnt/etc/skel/05:59
vgoelhi all...is there a way to update breezy to dapper without burning a cd? ie through apt or something05:59
orbinmsoul: lspci | grep VGA05:59
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thoreauputiceddie_stone: yes - I don't think we use that here so I didn't know about it05:59
msouloh05:59
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jadaz87!tell vgoel about upgrade06:00
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msoulorbin: x700 pcie06:00
thoreauputiceddie_stone: maybe /msg chanserv help  can tell you06:00
orbinmsoul: now do this: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf | tail -106:00
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vgoelthanks jadaz8706:00
jadaz87vgoel you are most welcome06:00
eddie_stonethoreauputic: maybe06:00
eddie_stone:)06:00
jadaz87thoreauputic  whould this command copy all of the contents of new into skel?: sudo cp /home/joejaxx/Desktop/new/* /mnt/etc/skel/06:01
msoulorbin: driver ati06:01
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freezeywarbo: thank you alot dude i get what your saying now06:01
deejay\o/06:01
ToranHey guys, I'm having problems upgrading a package, could someone please take a look? http://pastebin.ca/raw/5017306:01
deejay\o/06:01
thoreauputicjadaz87: I think so, yes06:01
orbinmsoul: ok, your vga card is an ati x700.  you're using the free ati driver which doesn't seem to be working.06:01
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deejay\o/06:02
orbinmsoul: let's try switching to vesa which is considered a failsafe driver06:02
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JinkgunsI have a quick question, my laptop uses either ethernet or wireless, but when I don't have either connected during startup, it hangs for about 5 minutes before continuing to boot up, is there any way to fix this? Or is this a 'feature' ;)06:02
bliss1_Frogzoo; thanks for the -h command as well installed win2k do you think win 2003 server might be a possiblility?06:02
msoulorbin: Okie, how can I do that?06:02
deejayspeak portuguese06:02
thoreauputicjadaz87: not sure if that catches all dot files06:02
orbinmsoul: run this: sudo sed -e 's/"ati"/"vesa"/' -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:02
deejayI'm brasilian06:02
deejay\o/06:02
orbindeejay: a very happy one it seems06:02
Warboagliv5: OK, I'm going on to cfdisk now which is suppored to be better06:02
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orbin!pt06:02
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.06:02
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thoreauputicdeejay: can you stop that please ?06:03
redguyToran: how about sudo apt-get remove libgl1-mesa ? This is a bug, you should report it06:03
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Frogzoobliss1_: should be mentioned in the qemu docs at the projects home site06:03
Toranredguy: I tried that and it was going to remove a LOT of packages I did not want removed06:03
deejayalguem fala portugues???06:03
redguy!tell eddieAWAY about away06:03
deejay\o/06:03
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thoreauputicdeejay: stop repeating06:03
redguyToran: is this on breezy or dapper?06:03
Toranbreezy06:03
deejayOK06:03
freezeywarbo: check this out for me real fast just tell me if it looks righjt06:03
ToranDapper has been released?06:04
msoulorbin: no such file or directory06:04
Frogzoo!dapper06:04
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)06:04
Warbofreezey: Give me a link06:04
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deejayABLAS ESPANHOL???06:04
MenZa!es06:04
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:04
ToranHow do I remove that program without removing all of its dependencies?06:04
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eddieAWAY!pachi06:04
ubotueddieAWAY: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:04
deejay^^06:04
orbinmsoul: make sure you type it properly: captial X followed by two ones06:04
Frogzoodeejay: -> #ubunut-es06:04
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Frogzoodeejay: -> #ubuntu-es06:04
CNAPok i just upgraded my kernel to 2.15.6-20 last night and it seems like my NIC died. it's enabled, however it's not sending/receiving anything06:04
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deejaycomo entro en el?06:04
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FrogzooCNAP: for dapper support -> #ubuntu+106:05
freezeywarbo: http://pastebin.com/67154106:05
tonyyarusso!pt06:05
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.06:05
msoulorbin: done06:05
NoUse!es06:05
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ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:05
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orbinmsoul: now type: startx06:05
obscuriteis sysv-rc-conf a good tool to use?06:05
jadaz87thoreauputic how do i copy hidden files too?06:05
MenZaorbin: wouldn't /etc/init.d/gdm start be better?06:05
MenZa:p06:05
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tonyyarussoobscurite: I thought it was great.06:05
redguyToran: hmm, in fact xorg-driver-fglrx depends on libgl1-mesa. This is very odd...06:05
orbinMenZa: yes, yes it would :)06:06
killianwhy is print preview grayed out in gnome apps?06:06
obscuritetonyyarusso - what do you use now?06:06
MenZaorbin: :)06:06
Toranx_x06:06
orbinmsoul: do what MenZa said06:06
killianwhat should i do?06:06
thoreauputicjadaz87: cp -a should do it from memory - but check the man06:06
deejay\o/06:06
orbinprobably too late anyway06:06
BicchiWill upgrading to Dapper replace my xorg.conf with a different one?06:06
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deejaycomo entra no ubuntu br?06:06
tonyyarussoobscurite: Next time I need to change something I'll pull that one up again.06:06
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killianwhy is print preview grayed out in gnome apps?06:06
Warboagliv5: OK, I think just using cfdisk -z /dev/yourdevice will do, then recreate the partitions you want (don't restore 2 to it's original size, use the boundaries on the disk now) and I think that should work. Maybe try dd'ing the partition if that is an option (too big?)06:06
msoulorbin: MAN, much thanks06:06
obscuritetonyyarusso - thanks.06:06
freezeywarbo: you get link?06:06
msoulorbin: thanks a million!06:06
Frogzookillian: do you have a default printer configd?06:06
orbinmsoul: works?06:06
imbrandonBicchi: if it does it will back the old one up06:06
msoulyeah06:06
tonyyarussodeejay: Please listen.  The bot told you twice.06:06
MenZayay for x06:06
MenZa:)06:06
orbinmsoul: do you want 3d accel.?06:06
Warbofreezey: OK, try accessing /sdb1 or /sdc1 I don't think you can06:06
killianwhat do you mean?06:06
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freezeywarbo: when you say access do it through console?06:07
msoulorbin: whynot! I also want a tiny favoure from you, if you could send me an email or pm with what you just said to me06:07
msoulorbin: I honestly want to write that down somewhere06:07
Warbofreezey: Just access it with file manager as a normal user06:07
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we2byhow do I free ram?06:08
orbinmsoul: getting 3d is a bit more difficult.  you need to use the proprietary binary driver from ati.com06:08
TokenBadin the .mozilla/firefox dir..what dirs should be in there?06:08
imbrandonclose apps06:08
freezeywarbo: yeah i just double click on the bitch and it open06:08
NoUsewe2by close some programs06:08
we2byunload unused applications06:08
msoulorbin: something went wrong06:08
marsleehello where are you ?06:08
tonyyarussoorbin, msoul: You can get fglrx packaged for breezy.06:08
stuart_asdf06:08
Frogzoomarslee: I'm here, where are you?06:08
freezeywarbo: but are these even recognized as hard drives?06:08
MenZaTokenBad:06:08
MenZa829li20s.default  pluginreg.dat  profiles.ini  zs5b1u11.default06:08
we2byNoUse, doesn't linux keep libs in the memory when you close a program?06:08
MenZaThat's what I have.. 1.5.0.2.06:08
msoulorbin: after I started it, I ctrl-alt f3 where I was then when I typed ctrl-alt f7 everything went the way it was06:08
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Warbofreezey: Hang on, I was going to describe how to let normal users access and change them, but you can't with NTFS anyway :(06:09
msoultonyyarusso: from? :-)06:09
NoUsewe2by not that I know of06:09
freezeywarbo: yeah its cool its only me on here06:09
we2byI think it does06:09
Warbofreezey: Yes. hd is internal IDE sd is internal SCSI. The scsi has been extended to SATA and USB as well06:09
tonyyarussoubotu: tell msoul about seveas06:09
killiani want to print 2 pages in one06:09
freezeywarbo: ok06:09
killianhow do i do it?06:09
jadaz87tonyyarusso lets say i want to copy the contents of a directory to another directory and the first directory has hidden files what whould the command line for that be06:09
marsleewhich city are you in?06:09
NoUsewe2by are you talking about virtual memory or phyiscal memory?06:09
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freezeywarbo: this stuff inside these folders can i erase it?06:09
we2byphysical memory06:10
orbintonyyarusso: good point06:10
hmrochais there any channel where i can speak with the people responsible for packaging the nfs utilities?06:10
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Warbofreezey: I mean so you wouldn't have to be root to save to the disc, but you can't save files to NTFS (read only 'cos they're not sure how it works)06:10
orbinmsoul: you have a 32bit system right?06:10
Warbofreezey: No, you can't06:10
NoUsewe2by no linux will only keep running apps in physical memory06:10
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Frogzoo!bug06:10
ubotubugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs06:10
killiani want to print 2 pages in one06:10
freezeywarbo: word ok thanks alot warbo06:10
freezeywarbo: wanna help me out with something else now? lol06:10
tonyyarussojadaz87: I don't know if you have to do anything special for hidden files in cp...06:10
freezeywarbo: u been helpin me for like 3 hours now06:10
NoUsewe2by and as you need more, it will swap stuff into the swap partition06:10
Warbofreezey: What is it?06:10
Frogzoojadaz87: just cp .* newdir06:11
we2byNoUse, I jsut noticed wehn it started swapping, my system works a bit slow06:11
freezeywarbo: which sould i use to network this linux server with my other windows servers... samba seems to be the best bet06:11
we2byit react slow on my actions06:11
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orbinmsoul: transcript: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1260806:11
ToranIs there a way to remove a .deb without removing any of its dependencies?06:11
NoUsewe2by swaping will slow stuff down06:11
Warbofreezey: Yes Samba, but I've never used it so I know nothing about it (that's the truth)06:11
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freezeywarbo: and then i am gonna set up this linux server as an FTP maybe or an SSH so people can login into and access certain files on a read only basis06:12
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we2byso, in other words you need about 1GB to run some standard apps a average user would uses06:12
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Frogzoowe2by: a little swapping is ok, but if it's constant, add more memory, or close down the apps you don't need open06:12
NoUsewe2by no06:12
we2byand still maintain a good performance06:12
freezeywarbo: which do you think is best FTP, SFTP, or SSH06:12
NoUsewe2by use top to see what is using the memory06:12
TokenBadMenZa, hmm...I don't have all that in my dir06:12
Warbofreezey: OK, but I've only ever copy/pated ssh commands from other people before06:12
msoulorbin just a sec06:12
imbrandonwe2by: nah i have 1gig ram installed but rarely use more than 256mb at any one time06:12
we2byI'm using 175mb from swap :\06:13
NoUsewe2by I ran my desktop on 256MB for a long time, I recently upgraded to 768 and it's much better now06:13
Warbofreezey: I think sftp, ssh would let people run programs06:13
MenZaTokenBad: install Firefox 1.5.0.2 from scratch then :)06:13
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freezeywarbo: yeah i only need it so i can set up usr accnt's i guess i will give those usr accounts there own directory and only let them access certain files u know?06:13
TokenBadI did it the way the help page said06:13
Frogzoowe2by: that's very unusual - with top running, hit 'M' to see what's using all your memory06:13
TokenBadand I want all my bookmarks back06:13
freezeywarbo: does that sound like a job that SFTP can carry out?06:14
Frogzoowe2by: just btw, you're not running ff 1.0.7 are you?06:14
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we2byit is Java that uses 17% of my ram06:14
we2byFrogzoo, nope. I use epiphany06:14
NoUsewe2by thats one of Java's features06:14
Warbofreezey: They will need read access to lots of system files just to do anything. They can't screw up your system, but they can see loads of files. I don't really know much about running servers actually06:14
NoUsewe2by massive memory consuption06:14
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freezeywarbo: thanks tho you helped me out alot here06:15
freezeywarbo: gotta smoke a stoge lol brb06:15
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Warbofreezey: np06:15
jadaz87Frogzoo it is omitting directories :-(06:15
imbrandonMemTotal:      1286376 kB06:15
imbrandonMemFree:        982312 kB06:15
freezeywarbo: dam after mounting drives and sittin here doing that for like 3 hours feels like just getting some dome from a chick gotta get up and stretch smoke a stoge06:15
freezeywarbo: lol06:15
imbrandonbout 300mb used06:15
imbrandon0 swap06:15
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imbrandonand i got a ton of crap running ( in KDE no less )06:16
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marsleeHi man where are you from?06:16
dilyxHave a question about Wine on ubuntu.. I get this error when starting Wine.. what does it mean, i guess it have something to do with my 3dcard, becouse it mentions something about $display isnt set correctly.. here is the error: err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!06:16
NoUsewe2by what app are you running that runs in Java?06:16
msoulorbin: sorry back06:16
Frogzoojadaz87: if you're copying whole directories, just 'cp -r dir1 dir2' should do it06:17
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msoulI'm updating now06:17
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CNAPmy NIC is picking up all the necessary info from the DHCP but i still can't ping or hit the net. any suggestions?06:17
Dr_Willisdilyx,  run wine as the same user that loggedingo X. perhaps. as a start.06:17
orbinmsoul: so the gui's fine now?06:17
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Frogzoodilyx: does 'wine notepad' work?06:17
imbrandonwe2by: what java app are you running? azureus ? lime/frost wire ?06:17
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orbinmsoul: i have to go soon.  so if you have any more questions. ask them06:18
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dilyxFrogzoo: i get the error when trying to start notepad06:18
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Frogzoodilyx: what about 'xclock' ?06:18
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dilyxWorks!!06:18
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msoulorbin: yeah but if I switch to ctrl-alt f1 and return everything get messed up06:18
Frogzoodilyx: that's odd...06:18
orbinmsoul: you mean moving to console and back stuffs it up?06:19
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dilyxFrogzoo: i know, many ppl have the same error, but no one seems to solve it :(06:19
dilyx:P06:19
msoulorbin: yeah so I had to ctrl ^c then starx06:19
msoulstartx06:19
imbrandondilyx: run notepad as the same use that logged into x06:19
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kavefishis there a way to view the pacakge available to apt-get from the command line?  I'm looking for something akin to 'yum list'06:19
dilyxsame error06:20
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Warbokavefish: apt-cache search06:20
dilyxalot of err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!06:20
kavefishWarbo, thanks muchly06:20
CNAPmy NIC is picking up all the necessary info from the DHCP but i still can't ping or hit the net. any suggestions?06:20
imbrandonkavefish: apt-cache06:20
msoulorbin: is that normal or something?06:20
tRSSis it possible to run os x applications in linux? Something like wine for win32 applications.06:20
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ramza3hello06:20
Dr_WillistRSS,  not very easially. :P06:20
WarbotRSS: Are you on a PowerPC?06:20
ramza3anybody know the args for 'curl' to print the size of the document downloaded06:20
tRSSWarbo: no. I am on intel. but I have dualboot with (K)Ubuntu and OS X06:21
jadaz87Frogzoo i want to copy the contents of dir1 to dir206:21
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tRSSDr_Willis: now I like challanges! :)06:21
Frogzoojadaz87: so just 'cp -r dir1 dir2'06:21
CNAPhow can i downgrade a kernel upgrade?06:21
orbinmsoul: probably not :-/  you should be able to move back and forth b/n f1 and f706:21
WarbotRSS: Intel OSX is too new for any decent virtualiser/emulator06:21
imbrandonjadaz87: cp -R dir1/* dir206:21
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dilyxIf anyone comes up with a solution to this wine error: err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color! please give me a call!!06:21
dilyx:)06:21
FrogzooCNAP: just install the old kernel, & select from the grub prompt06:22
ramza3anybody know what curl is?06:22
orbinmsoul: no that much of a biggie right? maybe when you use the ati driver it will fix that06:22
WarbotRSS: You may be able to run SheepShaver or PearPC to emulate PowerPC Macs, but it will have a big performance hit06:22
jadaz87imbrandon Frogzoo cp: cannot stat `new/*': No such file or directory06:22
agliv5Warbo cfdisk isn't working because I'm booting from a liveCD...06:22
imbrandonjadaz87:  then new dosent exist06:22
orbinramza3: apt-cache show curl06:22
jadaz87frogzoo your command just copys dir1 into dir2 not the contents of dir106:22
msoulorbin: shall I switch to ati driver?06:22
ramza3orbin: kidding06:22
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jadaz87imbrandon no it does06:22
orbinmsoul: are you on a 32 bit system?06:22
tonyyarussomsoul: It is a known bug in fglrx that there are issues with console switching.06:22
msoulorbin: yeah06:23
msoultonyyarusso: ohh06:23
tRSSWarbo: I was looking for something that avoided the emulation of the whole OS06:23
bliss1_Frogzoo; yep found something in docs thanks, if you have a large swap partition then the more virtual memory?06:23
msoultonyyarusso: well I'm upgradding now06:23
orbinramza3: meh, i don't know what it is :-/06:23
CNAPfrogzoo: i never installed a bootloader. i upgraded to the 2.15 kernel thru apt-get06:23
Warboagliv5: Hmmm. Is there a similar option for fdisk (even fdisk manual says use cfdisk) like the -z to not read the partition table (so you can make it yourself)06:23
msoultonyyarusso: do you think that would do the job?06:23
tonyyarussomsoul: Harangue ATI a bit to fix it ;)06:23
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WarbotRSS: And the architecture06:23
tRSSWarbo: true06:23
orbinmsoul: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI use the seveas method06:23
forsbergHi! Are there any documentation/recommendations/whatever on how to upgrade a Debian Sarge to Ubuntu Dapper Drake? I've tried googling for this, but haven't found anything useful.06:23
msoultonyyarusso: whatcha mean? :-)06:23
orbinmsoul: it's further down the page06:23
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msoulorbin: lemme check06:23
ramza3orbin: transfer documents through urls; best web browser in my opinion, kidding06:24
tonyyarussomsoul: At this time, I don't think you can have accel without issues, so you need to choose which is more important to you.06:24
TokenBadwhat was the url for that firefox update?06:24
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Seveasmsoul, if you decide to do the 'Seveas method' - wait a few hours06:24
msoultonyyarusso: all I want is to have a gui :-)06:24
imbrandonforsberg: upgrade to sid then horray then breezy then dapper, its the only way06:24
SeveasI'm going to update the drivers later today06:24
Warboforsberg: 1) Back up any valuable data 2) Try upgrading 3) Format disc with Dapper install CD 5) copy back backups06:24
orbinramza3: any advantages over wget?06:24
Frogzooforsberg: can't be done afaik06:24
imbrandonforsberg: upgrade to sid then horray then breezy then dapper, its the only way06:24
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ramza3orbin: I use it for web development; you can see the web document and also get header info06:25
jadaz87frogzoo your command just copys dir1 into dir2 not the contents of dir106:25
simon___ramza3: The best webbrowser is telnet06:25
Warboimbrandon: hoary (picky but important)06:25
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ramza3simon___: damn straight06:25
msoulsaveas:thanks, I'm greatful to most of the guys here, orbin, tonyyarusso and Frogzoo06:25
tonyyarussoimbrandon: Going from sid to Hoary would be backwards.06:25
forsbergimbrandon: horray? What's that?06:25
orbinramza3: sounds sweet06:25
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Frogzoomsoul: glad you got a result - finally!06:25
orbinmsoul: they'll help you out.  i'm off.  happy ubuntu'ing06:25
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msoulorbin: thanks man I really appreciate it06:25
orbinno sweat06:26
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Frogzooforsberg: hoary06:26
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mlehrerwhat about yggdrasil06:27
jmhodgeshey, all.  what's this i'm seeing in update-manager's Changes? something about being able to update to Dapper?06:27
forsbergtonyarruso: That's my impression as well - AFAIK, hoary was frozen somewhere before Sarge became stable. I can't see why I should need to upgrade to sid, before going dapper, though.06:27
msoultonyyarusso: do I need to save anything? or it's alright06:27
Frogzoobye bye dkk06:27
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Seveasutgh06:28
tonyyarussomsoul: Back up /etc/X11/xorg.conf before any changes to GUI drivers, etc.06:28
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msoulI got a blue screen now06:28
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jadaz87!ops06:29
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee06:29
Frogzoook, that's twice06:29
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tonyyarusso16 seconds.06:30
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Seveas/kick tonyyarusso 1506:30
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slackernwe should all just join the chan and camp it to death with our boring *nix talk :)06:30
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tonyyarussoSeveas: Ah, I'm lagged by 1.05 ;)06:30
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apokryphosslackern: chances are it's not a member of that chan spamming in here06:30
bliss1_erUSUL: hi06:30
erUSULhi06:31
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slackernapokryphos: ahh thats true, good point :)06:31
redguyis this the infamous turkish spam ?06:31
dilyxthe world is a horror when google cant find what im looking for :( :P06:31
slackernhehe06:31
nsmithare there any manuals online for Ubuntu?06:31
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Frogzoo!docs06:32
ubotudocs is probably an index of documentation on the Ubuntu Wiki - you can find it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation06:32
PrinterHey all06:32
slackernWhat you looking for dilyx?06:32
newbie33gnomefreak, are you here?06:32
tonyyarussonsmith: Oodles.06:32
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LogiI've got a dell d610 which is running kubuntu dapper flight 6 beautifully except that the hard disk seems to lock up occasionally when I resume from suspend. It looks like it's fixed by the patches this guy (http://home.comcast.net/~canez/d610/#kernel) is talking about for debian on kernel 2.6.12, but is there a cleaner way?06:32
nsmithtonyyarusso: can you give me a link?06:32
dilyxsome error i get in Wine.. when trying to run notepad..06:32
PrinterIs there a fix for printing to a Samba printer for Dapper?  My printers just pause when sending a job.06:32
Logi~kernel06:32
dilyxerr:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!06:33
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tonyyarussonsmith: Use the one from ubotu right there.  The wiki has 7,045 pages of docs currently.06:33
nsmithtonyyarusso: ok thanks06:33
slackernLogi: You should try #ubuntu+1 thats the devel channel.06:33
gilligan_hey, does anyone know how I can compile modpost ? I just installed kernel headers but don't understand how I can compile the tools in the /scripts subdir06:33
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Logislackern: so anything to do with * flight ? goes there?06:34
Frogzoogilligan_: read the INSTALL & README that came with the source06:34
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apokryphosSeveas: thing is that they're almost too rare for +r06:34
apokryphosand yet still very annoying06:34
slackernLogi: I guess it's prefered to keep things sorted.06:34
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Logiah, I just grokked the +106:34
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slackernLogi: But that issue might be related to breezy too i guess.06:35
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Juhazapokryphos, they're identified06:35
Logislackern: probably, although the kernel version has changed06:35
nalioth_zZzSeveas: is not here, apokryphos06:35
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nsmithtonyyarusso: I was hoping for a manual or something downloadable.  Maybe pdf format or whatever.06:36
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apokryphosJuhaz: how do you know?06:36
nalioth_zZzapokryphos: and i've already suggested a fix for ubugtu that should stop all this nonsense, registered user or not06:36
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nalioth_zZzapokryphos: some are identified and some are not06:36
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Frogzoonsmith: try the online gnome help - click on the lifesaver icon06:36
erUSULgilligan_: modpost is builded when you build the kernel afaik06:36
apokryphosnalioth_zZz: since they're generally of the same nature it would seem a good idea to to, yes.06:36
tonyyarussonsmith: Actually, I did download the wiki.  Other than that, Dapper also has the "Ubuntu Desktop Guide" built in by default.06:36
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Juhazapokryphos, nickserv info. and #python was just hit, and it's +r06:36
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|lostbyte_laptopwhich package has all the win codecs ?06:37
apokryphosok, we'll wait on that Ubugtu fix 8)06:37
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nalioth_zZzapokryphos: when seveas gets back, i'll poke him again06:37
Frogzoo!restricted06:37
nsmithtonyyarusso: Where did you downlaod the wiki06:37
ubotu[restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats06:37
CaminomasterHello06:37
apokryphosnalioth_zZz: thing is, Ubugtu can only automatically ban/kick, not prevent it from happening.06:37
Frogzoo|lostbyte_laptop: see ubotu's post ^^06:37
CaminomasterAnybody uses CNC software?06:38
tonyyarussonsmith: Hold on a sec, I'll get you the command.  (Be warned, 7000 http request resolutions take a long time - 3 hours for me.)06:38
|lostbyte_laptopok :)06:38
gilligan_erUSUL, there is neither INSTALL nor README in linux-headers-686 (i.e the current headers it depends on)06:38
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nsmithtonyyarusso: ok06:38
flickerflyI have a ubuntu server with several users on it (large family). Several of them have lost the ability to log in through GDM or ssh to the computer. Any idea what might cause this or what to look for?06:38
CaminomasterI need software to program a Spectralight and a ECO06:38
CaminomasterEmCO06:38
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patrick221!apache06:39
ubotuapache is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP06:39
Frogzooflickerfly: try removing the ~/.ICEauthority & have them log back in06:39
tonyyarussonsmith: wget --no-check-certificate --force-html --convert-links --mirror https://wiki.ubuntu.com06:40
nsmithtonyyarusso: thanks06:40
flickerflyFrogzoo: one of the accounts with this problem does not have an ~/.ICEauthority file in ~06:40
tonyyarussonsmith: It comes in at about 100MB, and if you .tar.bz2 it, that's only about 10MB.06:40
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nsmithtonyyarusso: ok thanks06:41
Frogzooflickerfly: any clues in /var/logs/auth*06:41
flickerflyFrogzoo: I tried that on another that had it, didn't work06:41
flickerflyFrogzoo: Apr 20 12:41:26 localhost sshd[8490] : (pam_unix) authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=localhost.localdomain  user=john06:42
flickerflyApr 20 12:41:28 localhost sshd[8490] : Failed password for john from 127.0.0.1 port 49965 ssh206:42
Frogzooflickerfly: humding - what's john doing with uid=0 ?06:42
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flickerflyFrogzoo: from /etc/passwd "john:x:1004:1004:John Colein,,,:/home/john:/bin/bash"06:43
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obscuriteoh redhat based systems you can chkconfig --list to see what services are enabled for what runlevels. is there an equivalent? i dont see how to do that with update-rc.d06:44
beerockxswhenever I run gedit with sudo, i get lots of errors like this in the console: Audio device open for 44.1Khz, stereo, 16bit failed Trying 44.1Khz, 8bit stereo.06:44
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nsmithI have a bunch of PDF forms that I need to fill out.  The document viewer in Ubuntu does not allow form filling nor does the Adobe Acrobat reader for Ubuntu.  Is there another application that allows form filling for PDF files?06:44
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agliv5Warbo & everyone else whom are intersted I restored the partitions table using fdisk  If anyone wants to know how, I'd be happy to inform them06:46
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Frogzooflickerfly: any chance you're expiring passwords?06:46
tonyyarussoSeveas: Very nice.06:46
flickerflyFrogzoo: not intentionally06:46
highnsmith: perhaps acrobat for windows on wine?06:46
tonyyarussoSeveas: Did you just write that in the last few minutes?06:46
nsmithhigh: windows on wine? I do not know what that is.06:47
xet7If I install Drapper Drake beta, how easy it is to upgrade to final version?06:47
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beerockxswhenever I run gedit with sudo, i get lots of errors like this in the console: Audio device open for 44.1Khz, stereo, 16bit failed Trying 44.1Khz, 8bit stereo.06:47
flickerflyFrogzoo: I just reset the password using passwd instead of the GUI interface and it seems to have taken this time.06:47
Seveastonyyarusso, s/few minutes/minute/06:47
topylixet7: you won't even know06:47
apokryphosSeveas: looks good06:47
highnsmith: wine is a kind of emulator that lets you run windows programs on windows06:47
tonyyarussoSeveas: I'm impressed.06:47
flickerflyFrogzoo: maybe I don't know what I'm doing with the GUI :-) Thanks for your help06:47
nsmithhigh: does it require a windows operating system?06:48
Frogzooflickerfly: yw, cheers06:48
highI'm not sure, I think not06:48
xet7topyli: thanks :)06:48
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me2winnsmith: it does not, but not all programs work under it06:48
Warboagliv5: WOW Wasn't ecpecting to hear that06:49
WarboAnyway got to go06:49
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highnsmith: http://www.winehq.com06:49
CNAPi have a NIC that used to be recognized by linux but doesn't anymore. how can i fix it?06:49
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nsmithI downloaded acroread from synaptic but it for some reason will not allow me to fill out forms.  The windows version does.  Why is that?06:49
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highnsmith: old version perhaps?06:50
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CNAPi have a NIC that used to be recognized by linux but doesn't anymore. how can i fix it?06:51
nsmithhigh: is wine an operating system?06:51
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Frogzoo!wine06:52
topylinsmith: no, it's a windows api for linux06:52
highnsmith: more of an emulator06:52
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Frogzoohigh: not quite correct - wine is a native linux implementation of the win32 api06:52
newbie33please help, how to run auto reconfiguration of gnome06:52
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newbie33Iam in console06:52
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newbie33after dist-upgrade gnome not runs :/06:53
CaminomasterSomeone who knows CNC software??06:53
highFrogzoo: Yeah, I know they don't call it an emulator =) But its a good word for explaining kind of what it is =)06:53
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nsmithafter installing wine I just install the windows program?06:53
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Frogzoohigh: just wanted to underline the fact that wine is native performance, not slow like an emulator would be (eg vmware)06:54
davidwinterhey all. I'm trying to play a wmv file in VLC player (though I'm happy to use any video player so long as it works!). I'm getting the following error when trying to play (sound works fine)06:54
highok06:54
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Frogzoonsmith: yup 'wine setup.exe'   like that06:54
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davidwintermain decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `wmv3`.06:54
topylinsmith: yes, and some apps may even work06:54
NoUse!tell davidwinter about wmv06:54
highHere you have info on how acrobat reader works in wine -> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=460406:55
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nsmithexcellent06:55
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nsmithwe will see06:55
Frogzootopyli: with some effort, you can get most of the apps listed in appdb to work06:55
fak3rdoes anyone have NetworkManager working with WPA support on PPC?  I have everything installed/config'd like I should via the wiki and no WPA06:55
topyliFrogzoo: i guess. i haven't played with wine, all those apps seem to work fine on my windows box :)06:56
davidwinterNoUse, I've installed the w32codecs as on that page06:56
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CNAPi have a NIC that used to work, but now it's not even recognized by the OS. any help would be appreciated!06:56
NoUsedavidwinter try using mplayer for windows media files06:56
davidwinterhowever, do I need to set-up anything after that? because after installing the deb package, the files still don't work06:56
mikelohi i need help!!!06:56
NoUsedavidwinter thats what I use and it works great06:56
Frogzootopyli: once you see WoW running natively, you realise wine has a lot of potential - and this is still early days06:56
davidwinterok, will do - installing mplayer06:56
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yyyyyplease help me06:57
Frogzoo!helpme06:57
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.06:57
yyyyyi want to run live cd on my pc06:57
mikelowhen i try to mount my ext3 partion it says it's empty!!06:57
mikeloi have all my data in it!!06:57
topyliFrogzoo: yeah well, early days may not ever be over for wine. the windows api is a moving target, or so i hear06:57
yyyyybut it couldn't actually start06:57
yyyyyit couldn't initialize the graphic panel06:58
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yyyyyjust the picture stops with gray picture and mouse pointer on it06:58
davidwinterNoUse, in Synaptic, there are lots of different mplayer packages... could you point me towards the correct one to install, please?06:58
mikelocan anybody help me out!!06:58
mikeloplease...06:58
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Frogzootopyli: there was a time people said linux would never catch windows, or run on the desktop, etc - only a matter of time06:59
NoUsedavidwinter if you run AMD use mplayer-k7, for Intel mplayer-68606:59
yyyyyon my other machine it runs06:59
davidwinterthanks NoUse06:59
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mikelohey guys06:59
yyyyythe first one that wouldn't run the live cd is MSI k8neo4 with 3000 s.93907:00
topyliFrogzoo: we'll see. it would be nice to see succes on that front too. i'm happy with the native apps i have though07:00
davidwinterwhile that's installing... which email client is better? Evolution or Thunderbird?07:00
yyyyyand the second one which is ok is v88 mboard with 2.13 celeron D07:00
obscuriteanyone know how to do an equivalent of "chkconfig --list" on ubuntu?07:00
mikelohi Frogzoo, can u help me please i can't mount my partition07:00
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Frogzoomikelo: what happens 'mount -t ext3 /dev/hda# /mnt'   ?07:01
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obscuritedavidwinter - i've been using evolution because thunderbird seemed quirky when I used it. but that was a couple of revisions ago.07:01
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obscuritedavidwinter - i have a feeling thunderbird is lighter weight07:02
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davidwinterNoUse, thanks! that works great!! (mplayer)07:02
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mikeloFrogzoo it mounts, but when do cd mnt the directory is empty07:02
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davidwinterobscurite, k, thanks - I think I'll try 'em both out quick07:03
xorianHi, I jsut wanted to stop by to say that those of use over on #vesta have NOT been spamming other channels.  I heard you guys got hit wil some spam mentioning our channel.  We're just a humble free software project.07:03
bertHello everybody and everybody hello07:03
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Frogzoomikelo: are you sure you're mounting the right partition?07:03
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davidwinterNoUse, in mplayer, when I start it up, I get an error about a missing font. is that normal?07:03
bertAnyone up for helping me? :D07:03
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Frogzoowhat's the best calendaring app that supports alarms?07:03
topylidavidwinter: apt-get install mplayer-fonts07:03
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auroresalu07:03
xorianThat and thanks for Ubuntu, which works great on my IBM T43.  :)07:04
flickerflyFrogzoo: google calendar? Does SMS alarms07:04
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mikeloFrogzoo, yup, i'm pretty sure, is hda a partition too?07:04
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Frogzooaurore: bonjour - pour conversation en francais allez au #ubuntu-fr07:04
auroreje suis aurore et vous07:04
auroreje cherche lame soeur07:04
bertI have done all the options for installing the drivers for my PowerColor ATI Radeon 9800PRO 128MB... But when I go to load a game.. such as, Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, it says that, "mesa3d" does not support hardware excelleration...07:04
bertAny ideas?07:04
Frogzoomikelo: nope hda is the whole drive - it should have the partition number afterwards, eg /dev/hda107:04
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Frogzoo!lame07:05
ubotuFrogzoo: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:05
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Frogzoo!fr07:05
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:05
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rem__!nl07:05
ubotuOp #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.07:05
rem__lol07:05
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mikeloFrogzoo, ok then hda2 is the right partition07:05
Eyel-e-sshey everyone. just wondering, does 5.10 support the ATI X850 on live cd??07:06
Frogzoomikelo: so now mount it, & hopefully your data's still in tact07:06
ConfidentiaLhow do I add users and priveleges to phpmyadmin?07:06
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mikeloFrogzoo, i don't know what to do, df -h says it's empty07:06
Frogzoomikelo: it won't have just disappeared without being deliberately deleted - pls pastebin 'sudo fstab -l /dev/hda'07:07
mikeloFrogzoo, it's 33GB of data that doesn't appear07:07
Frogzoo^^07:07
mikeloFrogzoo, ok07:07
Frogzoomikelo: sorry, 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda'07:08
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mikeloFrogzoo, i'll have to type it cause i'm not even able to run xchat07:08
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mikeloFrogzoo, i'm connecting from another machine07:09
NoUsedavidwinter sorry, you only need fonts for DVD subtitles07:09
Frogzoomikelo: no need - but that will give you a list of partitions - look for the ones listed as ext307:09
NoUsedavidwinter you should be fine07:09
joecartunhi07:09
Eyel-e-ssanyone fancy answering a question? *total newbie here*07:10
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Frogzoo!helpme07:10
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.07:10
Eyel-e-ssdoes utbuntu 5.10 support the ATI X850 on live cd??07:10
mikeloFrogzoo, it lists them as Linux not ext307:10
Frogzoomikelo: ok, id should = 8307:10
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mikeloFrogzoo, yup07:10
Frogzoomikelo: mount them one by one & try & find your data07:11
bertAnyone have any idea how come it says Mesa3d.org does nots upport hardware excelleration, when I try to play Wolf:ET... and I've installed all the drivers PERFECTLY..07:11
Eyel-e-ssi've tried running it but i get a res. that is un-usable and colours all.....brown and black07:11
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aurore goss07:11
auroreki veut coucher ac moi se soir07:11
mikeloFrogzoo, my root partition mounts ok07:11
auroreserieu07:11
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auroreje ve coucher se soir07:11
aurorei love you07:11
auroreen ne07:11
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FrogzooEyel-e-ss: the live cd's stock resolution needs adjustment, unfortunately - run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'07:12
khamaelhow can I check what lib a binary is using?07:12
Frogzooaurore: arrete - assez07:12
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mikeloFrogzoo, my other one does not07:12
auroresex07:12
void^khamael: ldd07:12
Eyel-e-ssFrogzoo how would i go about that? lol i can't read the screen as its all brown and black with nothing visable on screen :/07:12
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bertAnyone have any idea', how to fix the problem in which it says, www.mesa3d.org does not support hardware accelleration, so I can't play my game...07:12
mikeloFrogzoo, i tried mounting them07:12
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mikelothe normal way07:13
khamaelvoid^, didn`t work. I`m trying to figure out what SDL my nwn is using07:13
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FrogzooEyel-e-ss: hit 'ctrl alt f1' to get to a terminal, enter that command, then 'ctrl alt f7' to switch back07:13
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Eyel-e-ssah...thank you Frogzoo :D07:13
void^khamael: how does it not work?07:13
Frogzoomikelo: no luck? did they mount?07:13
treeformhi can some one help a ubuntu n00b?  How do i setup to run php?07:14
bertI guess nobody here can help me.. :(07:14
Frogzoo!php07:14
ubotuLinux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP07:14
mikeloFrogzoo, it mounts but they look empty07:14
lsuactiafnerif anyone here is very good with enforcing bandwidth restrictions, traffic shaping please look at http://rootshell.be/~edc/network.html and mail me an answer, ask in channel if i should clarify something or if someone knows of a channel i can ask07:14
Frogzoomikelo: could the data have been deleted?07:14
bertBuh-Bye Then.07:14
mikeloFrogzoo, is there a way i can check a hda device's disk usage07:14
bert!bye07:14
ubotuvaarwel bert07:14
NoUsebert what kind of video card do you have?07:14
khamaelvoid^,  "not a dynamic executable"07:14
mikeloFrogzoo, i didn't delete07:14
treeformFrogzoo, thank you.07:14
bertNoUse: Yay, An Answer :)07:14
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bertNoUse: I have a Radeon 9800PRO, 128MB07:15
NoUse!tell bert about ati07:15
void^khamael: it doesn't use runtime linking, then.07:15
bertNoUse: I already updated all that, driver is up to date.07:15
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NoUsebert run 'glxinfo | direct' from a termainl while in X07:15
Logiis there a page somewhere (I remember when people would ask for documents) describing how the stock [k] ubuntu kernels were produced?07:15
FlannelKingLogi: well, when a mommy kernel and a daddy kernel love each other very much... sorry.07:16
Frogzoomikelo: the way to check disk usage is mount the hd, then 'df -h'07:16
schirlocgot my firefox working , but still getting an error when running synaptic07:16
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LogiFlannelKing: thank you for your input. Anyone else?07:16
mikeloFrogzoo, it says it's empty07:16
bertNoUse: it says, extension "xFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"07:16
Frogzoomikelo: :(07:16
schirlocE: postfix: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 107:17
schirlocE: mailx: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured07:17
schirlocE: mutt: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured07:17
schirlocE: lsb-core: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured07:17
schirlocE: lsb-graphics: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured07:17
schirlocE: lsb-cxx: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured07:17
lauraola07:17
schirlocE: lsb: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured07:17
Frogzooschirloc: please don't paste here07:17
schirlocoops07:17
lauraalgun espaol?07:17
ompaul!es07:17
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:17
schirlocwhere is that bin?07:17
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lekuhey07:17
bert!tell schirloc about pastebin07:17
lekui'm getting this error when trying to use enlightnemnt's e17genmenu util:07:17
ompaulpaste.unbutu-nl.org07:17
schirlocthany you07:17
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roHi, I've got this problem in X when moving about windows: http://www.homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/s0344600/07:17
TokenBadhow can I mount my cd rom drive07:17
ompaulleku, put that error in a pastebin07:17
lekuyep07:18
lauraola leku07:18
leku1s07:18
topylischirloc: close synaptic and try "sudo apt-get -f install" in a terminal07:18
ompaullaura, this is an english language channel07:18
lekuhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/kE6XJc82.html07:18
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nickrud Logi /boot/config-$(uname -r) has the kernel config, linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.12 has the ubuntu specific stuff07:18
nickruds/stuff/patches/07:18
lekusorry yyour other pastebot didn't work07:18
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lekubad url07:18
bertNoUse: You still there?07:18
bert!tell bert about ati07:18
BOBqwertyi have a good one07:18
ompaulpaste.ubuntu-nl.org07:19
ompaulminor typo07:19
BOBqwertyi got ait and it smalls funny07:19
BOBqwertyati*07:19
void^khamael: what you can try is using something like 'strings somefile | grep "\.so"'07:19
BOBqwertysmells*07:19
NoUsebert look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and look for why the driver isn't working07:19
schirloci think i tried that, but hold on07:19
ompaul!oftopic07:19
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ompaul07:19
ompaul!offtopic07:19
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!07:19
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NoUsebert if you want to put it on a pastebin, I'll take a peek at it07:20
BOBqwertyjeez i would just like to say all ofu guys are complete nerds and should probably go out and lose a bit of weight and mayby if your lucky make some freinds07:20
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lekuany idea on my error? http://rafb.net/paste/results/kE6XJc82.html07:20
ompaulBOBqwerty, please, this is a support channel07:20
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bertNoUse: Ok, Give me a second.07:20
Eyel-e-ssomg Frogzoo is a godsend :D07:20
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BOBqwertyyeah i no  and i was trying to support your lives by helping by suggesting that mayby you should go out and lose some weight07:21
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NoUseBOBqwerty don't you have anything better to do?07:21
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BOBqwertyabsoultly not07:21
NoUseBOBqwerty no friends to hang out with?07:22
BOBqwertyna im witht hem right now :)07:22
BOBqwertythem*07:22
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BOBqwertyyay any1 else wanna ignore me while we r at it?07:22
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FlannelKingompaul: you forgot a 1 and a 2 ;)07:23
FlannelKingompaul: 242 and 13007:23
BOBqwertylets go play with coding! 0102hks<>07:23
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treeformHow would i run a php program stand alone? some thing like "php program.php" and it runs program.php?07:24
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bertNoUse: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12609 -- Here you go.07:25
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kupesofttreefrom: php --info07:26
FlannelKingtreeform: you need to install php5-cli07:26
ompaulFlannelKing, please read your message :-)07:26
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treeformkupesoft,  php --info07:27
treeform  - > bash: php: command not found07:27
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bertNoUse: you get that link?07:27
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treeformFlannelKing, thankx07:27
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dle"Ubuntu 6.06 LTS" -- LTS = ?07:28
NoUsebert (II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration unsupported on Radeon 9500/9700 and newer.07:28
bertNoUse: O_O07:28
Jeylts:long time support or smt07:28
FlannelKingsmt?07:29
NoUsebert you might need to look around the forums on how to install the latest drivers from ati.com07:29
bertNoUse: Eek.. Ok, Thanks for your help, Take care.07:29
NoUsebert sure07:29
NoUsebert good luck07:29
abbot45quick GAIM question.  i gave most of my list names alias names and now every time someone sends me a message it puts it up in 2 IM windows.07:29
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bertNoUse: THanks.07:30
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schirlocok here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1261107:32
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schirlocthat is the result of apt-get -f install07:33
PShi, can anyone tell me what the min system spec would be for a workable Xgl / Compix set up?07:33
ompaulPS better off asking that in #ubuntu+1 they deal with dapper07:33
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PSok, thx07:33
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pulox.irc.cl07:34
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GTXWhat outgoing ports do FTP use on a webserver? Incoming port 21 is allowed. Outgoing port 21 is allowed. But people cannot work FTP 100%. It's like it uses a different port to send information? any ideas?07:34
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ericmoritz\0is there a way to keep my network mounts from appearing on the desktop, I have so many that it's cluttering up the desktop07:34
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gggfhttp://www.bustyadventures.net/60008/a.m1/bavideopost/bavideopost.html  http://www.cathyscraving.net/mgp/cdb23mzo/vdp.html07:34
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phewlwhat room is for games ?07:34
phewlchannel *07:35
me2winthere isn't one really, at least i dont think07:35
me2winits just in here or in #kubuntu any help you can find07:35
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Tomcat_ericmoritz\0: Gimme a second, I think there's a way...07:36
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mrshoeGTX: look into ftp passive vs. active07:36
ericmoritz\0Thanks Tomcat_07:36
Tomcat_ericmoritz\0: apps/nautilus/desktop in the Gnome Config Editor has some options... you might want to play around with those.07:37
mrshoeGTX: ftp is a strange protocol.. the server makes a connection to the client07:37
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ggilbertit's a bit more complicated than just a couple fixed port numbers. There is a very large range of ports going back to the client that the server might use.07:37
mrshoeGTX, ggilbert: not if you use passive... passive is much simpler07:37
ggilbertyeah07:37
JowiGTX: usually you open port 20 and 21 for ftp. one is for connection, the other for traffic. but it depends on server and such.07:38
ericmoritz\0Tomcat_: Thanks, I just found that07:38
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mrshoeGTX: but some people don't want to force their clients to use passive07:38
phewlme2win, i wanted to ask for a games list that are native to linux and are fun, mostly because i couldn't get ut2003 or 2004 demos to install and only have doom3 tried of that tho heh, the problem was that the unreal's settings were not able to be displayed on my monitor07:38
CaminomasterBye07:38
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Tomcat_ericmoritz\0: Yeah, I tried it... works for me. :)07:38
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Tomcat_ericmoritz\0: The volumes_visible switch there07:38
me2winphewl: Wesnoth is a great game07:39
me2winphewl: SuperTux also :P07:39
Tomcat_phewl: LiquidWars is great07:39
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Tomcat_phewl: OpenTTD... I just love it.07:39
Hhhhhhello, I'm installing ubuntu (only CD that will install in my laptop). I want kubuntu, is "apt=get install kubuntu-desktop" all I have to do?07:39
ericmoritz\0Tomcat_: I unchecked show volumes, I assume that mounted usb drives won't show up but I'll deal with that :)07:39
Jowiphewl: rrotage is addictive07:39
ericmoritz\0me2win: wesnoth is awesome07:39
Tomcat_ericmoritz\0: Yeah it's a kind of "all or nothing" switch. :\07:39
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Hhhhhdo I have to go and start tweaking settings and stuff, or installing the meta-package will take care of that?07:40
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Tomcat_ericmoritz\0: You could try creating symlinks on your desktop to the mount dirs ob USB drives... they should only appear when plugged in then. Maybe.07:40
Jowiphewl: sorry should be "rrootage"07:40
phewlare they freeware ?07:40
me2winyes07:40
phewlor do they have demos ?07:40
Tomcat_Hhhhh: Best way is to download the kubuntu install CD...07:40
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phewlare they fps ? or mmo ? or rpg what07:40
phewl:p07:40
jespunyhola07:40
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green_earzphewl:        armagetron    and       bzflag07:41
Jowiphewl: yes. full games. for free. quake2 works fine btw.07:41
Tomcat_phewl: LiquidWars is free, OpenTTD requires the original Transport Tycoon Deluxe files.07:41
FlannelKingHhhhh: yeah, the meta package will do it07:41
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me2winphewl: wesnoth is like an RTS07:41
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jespuny                                      fuck            you !!!!07:41
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Tomcat_phewl: LiquidWars is... a weird strategy game. OpenTTD is a tycoon game. ;)07:41
gnomefreak!ops07:41
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jespunyFUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!07:41
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gnomefreakty07:42
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jerry_there a way to set cd roms to allow unmounting when pressing eject button??07:42
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SeveasShadowcat, english please07:42
Seveas!se07:42
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se07:42
Shadowcatit's the other way around07:42
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jessidhello07:42
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GTXWhat outgoing ports do FTP use on a webserver? Incoming port 21 is allowed. Outgoing port 21 is allowed. But people cannot work FTP 100%. It's like it uses a different port to send information? any ideas?07:42
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abbot45i have ubuntu installed on a 10gb drive.  i also have a 40gb drive that i want to put stuff on.  is there any way to do that?07:42
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jessidsome of you can tell me what are C heders and where can i find it?07:43
treeformFlannelKing, i tried that and it worked but it had problem with $this so i look on web and php5 does not like $this so i got php4 instead wich likes $this but i get error now: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 2949120 bytes)07:43
treeform  how to allocate more ram for php do you know?07:43
Seveas!tell jessid about compiling07:43
_jasonjessid: install the build-essential package07:43
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ompaulGTX usually a client side request can be from anywhere07:43
me2winabbot45: mount the 40gb hard drive. what filesystem is it?07:43
mrshoeGTX: ummmm07:43
mrshoeGTX: read my above posts to you07:43
JowiGTX: 20 + 21 needed usually07:43
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jessid_jason thanks man ill do it now!07:43
abbot45me2win, i don't know that its formated.  i think it has an old linux install on it.07:44
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yrahttp://www.ilove-movies.com/main.html http://cool-porn.biz/welivetogether/galleries/dyke1010/vp.html07:44
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_jasonSeveas: ^07:44
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me2winabbot45: grap GParted (or QTParted if you are on KDE) and format it07:45
me2wingrab*07:45
GTXJowi, That's allowed TCP/20 TCP/21... It logs in for the user but then when they request a listing or to send something it just cuts off.07:45
mrshoeGTX: i sent you about 5 messages when you asked the first time.. read those07:45
GTXI did07:45
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mrshoeGTX: ok.. did you read up on ftp active vs passive?07:46
GTXBasiclay, The server is firewalling outgoing connections. What port ranges should be allowed?07:46
GTXYes mrshoe but I have no idea to how set that or whatever07:46
mrshoeGTX: http://slacksite.com/other/ftp.html07:46
mrshoeGTX: it's a large range of ports07:46
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mrshoeGTX: often it's simpler to use sftp, which is over ssh (always port 22)07:47
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jessidI am receibing this error:What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running07:47
jessidkernel?07:47
Darxusthe irc link on the ubuntu main page is pointing to the lists page07:47
GTXTry telling my clients that mrshoe haha :p07:47
mrshoeGTX: in that case read that article and open up all the ports07:47
jessidwhat can I do? I dont know what that is or where can i find those C headers07:47
mrshoeGTX: but it's far less secure and not encrypted07:47
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GTXI am doing07:47
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abbot45me2win, how should i make the new partitions?07:48
me2winabbot45: however you want07:49
me2winext3 would be easiest07:49
freezeyi have 2 drives that are NTFS on this system and i am trying to format them as EXT3 now when i goto do that it asks me for the access path and already it says /boot but there are more options.. which do i choose?07:49
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abbot45me2win, ex2 file system?07:49
me2winext307:49
me2winif you can07:49
MisterNhi07:50
abbot45me2win, primary or extended partition?07:50
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me2winprimary07:50
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GTXmrshoe, so basiclay if the FTP is set to passive only it would work with just ports 20/21 ?07:51
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io_Anybody know how I can change a .daa file to an .iso or just get inside it somehow in linux/ubuntu?07:51
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ircleuserhello, can anyone answer a ubuntu/PPC question?07:51
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yrahttp://www.ilove-movies.com/main.html http://cool-porn.biz/welivetogether/galleries/dyke1010/vp.html07:52
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abbot45me2win, ok.  so its called /dev/hde107:52
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webwolf_27ircleuser, ask the question, maybe someone can answer07:52
me2winabbot45: now you need to mount it07:52
abbot45how?07:53
_jason!ops07:53
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me2winabbot45: sudo mount /dev/hde1 /media/hde1 (you can make a folder in /media with the name of the place you want to mount it on if you want)07:53
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abbot45me2win, mount point /media/hde1 does not exist07:55
me2winabbot45: you have to create it then do   sudo mkdir /media/hde107:55
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me2winabbot45: then do sudo mount /dev/hde1 /media/hde1 again07:55
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abbot45me2win, good deal.  so that should be visible there in my file system right?07:56
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me2winyeah its mounted on /media/hde1 so you can put stuff on it now. If you want it to mount on startup you will have to mess with fstab. But yeah, its ready for storing.07:57
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abbot45ok07:58
abbot45i'll probably want to do that07:58
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EvilDinanyone know how to remove info about perl version from botton of the page which shows apache207:59
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simplydazedEvilDin: ServerSignature Off07:59
simplydazedEvilDin: ServerTokens Prod07:59
soulfreshnerhow do I remove a screensaver from Dapper?08:00
EvilDindo i add this to apache2.cpnf?08:00
simplydazedEvilDin: add those 2 lines to your apache.conf file08:00
EvilDinconf08:00
soulfreshnerbusyspheres crashes my X session08:00
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me2winabbot45: want me to tell you how to add it to fstab?08:01
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abbot45that would be cool08:02
Overandugh08:02
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Overandhow can i delete all the contents of a certain directory that are in another one?08:02
EvilDinoo nice tnx :D08:02
abbot45isn't there a text file that i can just add that mount command to that will do it at boot?08:02
Overandi figure it's something using xargs08:02
_jasonabbot45: /etc/fstab08:02
abbot45ok08:02
simplydazedOverand: loop it08:03
ratschnowskihello, is here someone familiar with cups? i want to connect a printer via a hub/switch, but do not really know how to do it08:03
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abbot45i don't need to put sudo in front of it in that file do i?08:03
Jhoahttp://g.pantywash.com/galleries/rackandblack/051024carmen/vp.html http://hornystarlet.com/yt/135/vdpst.htm08:03
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_jasonubotu: tell abbot45 about mount08:03
me2winabbot45: no08:03
ConfidentiaLI have a problem with samba... I just installed it, and added shared folders, but when I try to connect to it over LAN, I get asked for username and password. Can any1 help me?08:03
tonyyarussoompaul: Another one.08:03
abbot45ok.  i'm sure i can handle that.  think i've done it before08:03
Overandsimplydazed: say /home/username/dir3 has a bunch of files in it, and /home/username/ has them too, as well as others, but you want 'em gone08:03
Overandshould you just be able to do xargs rm whatever whatever ls -1 /the/directory/with/the/proper/files ?08:04
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simplydazedOverand: in both directories or just one?08:04
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Overandsimplydazed: basically, i accidentally copied a whole pile of crap that was in ~/whatever to /var/www08:05
Overandand i want to delete all of those files (60 or so) from /var/www without hosing the whole thing08:05
Overandheh08:05
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Jhoahttp://g.pantywash.com/galleries/rackandblack/051024carmen/vp.html http://hornystarlet.com/yt/135/vdpst.htm08:06
Overand(And yes, while i'm trying to figure it out, i'm doing a backup of the /var/www/08:06
Overand!ops Jhoa -- porn spam08:06
ubotuOverand: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:06
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Overander08:06
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Overand-not #debian -08:06
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facugaichhey, I basically blew "/etc/apache2/build/libtool" and now I try to run "configure" in apache 2.2 and I get an error. help?08:06
FlannelKingtheyve been doing it to a few chnanels08:07
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freezeyhow do i set permissions to a drive?08:07
rsegurarbhllhkgjgj08:07
rsegurargkgj08:07
rsegurargi++08:07
rsegurarggg08:07
ConfidentiaLI have a problem with samba... I just installed it, and added shared folders, but when I try to connect to it over LAN, I get asked for username and password. Can any1 help me?08:07
NoUse!tell ConfidentiaL about samba08:08
rsegurarhola me llamo ruben y quiero una relacion sexual08:08
NoUsels08:08
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naliothwhat is up today?08:08
me2wini dunno08:08
me2winits wierd though08:08
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FlannelKing!es08:08
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:08
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me2winFlannelKing: LOL!08:09
FlannelKingoh, wait08:09
paxnalioth: happy 4/20 many people are high08:09
FlannelKingdamn08:09
ZeZuw00 i finally got a new linux box08:09
me2winFlannelKing: He said he wanted sexual relaxation, and you sent tim to ubuntu-es08:09
ZeZuno more ati bullshit08:09
FlannelKingyeah, I know.  I figured it out08:09
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Overandme2win: hahaha08:09
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me2winlol08:09
ircleuserDoes Ubuntu Linux support "sleep"? I have an IBM ThinkPad that never sleeps, and I would like to install it on my Macintosh, but not if it can't sleep.08:09
Overandircleuser: sounds like me08:09
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me2winI sleep as little as possible08:10
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tonyyarussoircleuser: You have to change a setting somewhere...08:10
rmoremarHOLA SOY RAFA UN HOMBRE SOTERO QUIERO NOVIA GUAPA08:10
me2winrmoremar: jaja08:10
ircleusersorry to be a n0ob, but what is difference between sleep and hybernate?08:11
me2winrmoremar: no estas cingando, vete de aqui.08:11
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facugaichhey, I basically blew "/etc/apache2/build/libtool" and now I try to run "configure" in apache 2.2 and I get an error. help?08:11
tonyyarussoircleuser: Suspending to RAM vs disk.08:11
simplydazedOverand: for X in `ls 1/`; do rm -rf 2/$X ; done08:12
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rmoremarYO QUIERO SEXO Y TU08:12
ircleusertonyyaruss: i see, thanks08:12
Overandsimplydazed: that script looks al ittle hairy08:12
me2winfacugaich: did you install it via repos?08:12
zim_Hi all another Q what is the easy way to get a netgear WG111T to work under 5.1008:12
Overandi'll try it08:12
rmoremarYES08:12
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rmoremarVEI08:13
facugaichme2win, Apache 2.2? it's in the repos?08:13
Juhaz!ops08:13
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee08:13
Jeywhat kernel is needed for an amd64x2 ?08:13
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SeveasJuhaz, ?08:13
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simplydazedOverand: it's takes the listing of one dir, deletes the same files in the other directory ...08:13
me2winfacugaich: ah nevermind, you are right, its not08:13
tonyyarussoircleuser: Found the file.  You need to edit /etc/defaults/acpi-support and uncomment the line for ACPI_SLEEP=true08:13
Seveasit seems to be tuesday loserday today...08:14
me2winfacugaich: might wanna ask in #apache08:14
Overandsimplydazed: it appears to not work08:14
facugaichme2win, already tried08:14
Overandmaybe i'll make it ls -108:14
AmaranthSeveas: but it's thursday :P08:14
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Fluxboxxhttp://sapphicerotika.com/vids/lesb/dorikerstitraci/videopost.html http://sapphicerotika.com/vids/lesb/sandrabrooke/videopost.html08:14
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SeveasAmaranth, see, even I am a loser 08:14
simplydazedOverand: works for me08:14
Overandsimplydazed: not for me08:14
facugaichme2win, but they aren't as friendly as the ppl in here08:14
me2winfacugaich: i believe that08:15
Overand for X in `ls -1 /www/other.domain.com/upload`; do rm -f ./$X ; done08:15
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Overanda lot of the filenames have spaces in them08:16
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EvilDinanyone here maybe know why mount doesn't work same in debian as ubuntu, i add line to fstab: /var/skripte/phpmyadmin /var/www/phpmyadmin none bind 0 008:16
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EvilDinand it didn't maounted on reboot08:16
EvilDinany idea maybe08:16
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me2winEvilDin: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html <-- take a look at that, might help a little08:17
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EvilDini maybe have idea, maybe should be to auto not to none08:18
EvilDinis thre possible to run fstab without restarting08:18
me2winEvilDin: yes, do   sudo mount -a08:18
EvilDinam nope08:19
me2win?08:19
EvilDini think that that script in fstab would be executed08:19
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me2win?08:20
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ayhanhello08:21
me2winayhan: hey08:21
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imbrandoncan someone look at my pastebin for my dhcpd error i cant get the dhcpd to start, here is the error and dhcp.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1261308:21
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Yellaphttp://www.2000blowjobs.com/videogallery72/samanthablowsaluckyfan45.html http://www.buttbashers.net/tpu/tokyo01004.html08:21
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ayhanwhat08:21
hikuDoes anyone out there know about wireless networks using WPA?08:22
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imbrandoncan someone look at my pastebin for my dhcpd error i cant get the dhcpd to start, here is the error and dhcp.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1261308:24
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EvilDinok iz works now08:27
EvilDini have one other question, how to look in ssh shell how much free space is left on disk08:27
matthiashelp me please, i'm looking for the wikipage, where repositories near my location are listed :(08:27
obscuriteEvilDin: df -h08:27
EvilDinnice08:28
EvilDin:P08:28
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matth-wHow do I open a .rar?08:28
doesshttp://www.cc2cc.com/movc3/avb71/vp.htm http://www.firstbigswallow.com/gals/sonia1-399/indexVdPst.shtml08:28
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_jason!rar08:28
ubotuI guess rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression08:28
matth-wThanks man08:28
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dan_wats the format windows uses? 4 letters starts with N?08:30
MacSlowntfs08:30
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MacSlowyou mean maybe?08:30
ZeZuwhat is the nvidia driver package name?08:30
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dan_And how do i mount ntfs partitions?08:31
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FlannelKing!ntfs08:31
imbrandonnvidia-glx08:31
ubotu[ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions08:31
abbot45me2win, how do i unmount that drive that i just mounted.  i want to change the mount point name to something different.08:31
me2winabbot45: sudo umount /media/hde108:31
imbrandonumount /blah08:31
newbie33!browser08:31
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, newbie3308:31
dan_Thats what i was looking for - thanks08:31
FlannelKingnewbie33: what you looking for?08:31
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newbie33my firefox not run08:32
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newbie33dont know what to do08:32
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micahfhey08:32
_jasonnewbie33: what version are you using?08:32
micahfanyone using a Xpress 200M?08:32
ZeZuafter i install nvidia-glx do i reconfigure x ?08:32
micahfzezu I think you do08:32
ZeZudpkg --reconfgure Xorg or smth ?08:32
newbie33version of what?08:32
imbrandonit ill do it for you08:32
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_jasonnewbie33: firefox08:32
FlannelKing!nvida08:32
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, FlannelKing08:32
micahfzezu, you have to add some lines for compositing and stuff08:32
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newbie331.5 I guess08:32
endgamerI've got what is technically an Enlightenment question, I suppose, if anyone can help - is it possible to do window tiling in Gnome?08:32
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_jasonnewbie33: are you using the default one in breezy?08:33
newbie33yes08:33
ZeZumicahf, there is no auto config for the driver ?08:33
_jasonnewbie33: that's 1.0808:33
newbie33it not runs after dist-upgrade08:33
micahfZeZu, I don't know, I don't use autoconfig08:33
_jasonnewbie33: you dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy?08:33
micahfZeZu, those haven't ever been much help to me!08:33
ZeZuyea i dont know the parameters it would take08:33
newbie33yes08:33
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matthiasdoes someone also have problems with the security repositorie?08:33
ZeZuhehe i feel that08:33
newbie33now 12-608:33
MacSlowhm... the german repository-mirror seems dead from my "point of view".08:33
micahfZeZu, you have to look it up on google!08:33
_jasonnewbie33: what does 'firefox' output when you type it in a terminal08:33
matthiasMacSlow, same here08:33
imbrandonZeZu: if you install it via apt-get it will configure it for you ( nvidia-glx) and backup your old config08:34
newbie33root@tyla:/home/rkz # firefox08:34
newbie33plugin_get_value 108:34
newbie33plugin_get_value 208:34
dan_!mp308:34
ubotusomebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:34
newbie33and that is all08:34
ZeZuimbrandon, i installed it via synaptic08:34
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ZeZuthat uses apt-get doesnt it ?08:34
imbrandonsame thing08:34
imbrandonyup08:34
MacSlowmatth-w, Can I temporarily change it to e.g. some dutch- or un-one?08:34
_jasonnewbie33: ps aux | grep firefox (put it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ if it is long)08:34
ZeZumaybe i just need a reboot then or restart x08:34
imbrandonnow just restart your gdm/kdm08:34
ZeZuko08:34
ZeZubrb08:34
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copyyhttp://www.hardcorepetites.net/bwb/168f/index02.html http://www.lesbiansplayroom.com/mgal06/086/legendary_lesbos_licking/videopost.html08:34
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endgamerSorry folks, should have said hi! how are you all doing? Just wondering if anyone knows - is it possible to do window tiling in Gnome/Enlightenment?08:35
pcslhi08:35
newbie33_jason, rkz       8325  0.1  4.6  88208 11496 ?        Sl   21:26   0:00 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin -a firefox08:35
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newbie33what it means?08:35
jy1700i've got a dial up issue with dapper 6.06. gnome-ppp works fine in breezy but no go in dapper08:35
pcslhow can I identify as root?08:35
abbot45me2win, can the mount point be different than the name it displays under the icon.  for instance /home is displayed as Home Folder.08:35
_jasonnewbie33: it means you have a firefox running already, one secx08:35
newbie33but I cant see it at all08:36
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newbie33:/08:36
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MacSlowmatthias, is it enough to just replace de. with e.g. en. ?08:36
matthiasdunno08:36
matthiastry it :X08:36
me2winabbot45: you can name the mountpoint whatever you want. just sudo mkdir /media/customnamehere then mount it /media/customnamehere08:36
matthiasfor me its just the security repository08:37
endgamerNo worries folks, you're obviously busy.08:37
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matthiasthe rest works fine08:37
FlannelKingjy1700: #ubuntu+108:37
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jy1700flannelking; ?08:38
newbie33please tell me other browser names08:38
FlannelKingjy1700: that's the place to go for dapper stuffs08:38
newbie33I cant browse anymore08:38
_jasonnewbie33: killall firefox, then ps aux | grep firefox again08:38
jy1700oh soory I need to switch channels ok08:38
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jy1700thanks08:39
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dan_!mp308:39
ubotuhmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:39
newbie33killall firefox08:39
newbie33firefox: no process killed08:39
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newbie33wrong command?08:39
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LoRezkillall firefox-bin08:40
_jasonnewbie33: that's becaue I'm not thinking straight: yeah what LoRez just said08:40
newbie33:)08:40
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newbie33 ps aux | grep firefox08:40
newbie33root      9438  0.0  0.2   2928   500 pts/0    R+   21:40   0:00 grep firefox08:40
abbot45me2win, i guess what i'm saying is.  i want to keep the mount name simple without spaces and such for command purposes, but for it to display something different under the desktop icon.  either that or get rid of the desktop icon.08:40
newbie33its after kil08:41
slippyWhen I attempt to install my wireless driver I am not that /etc/modprobe.conf is not found. How can I fix this?08:41
_jasonnewbie33: now try running firefox again08:41
dan_!wma08:41
uboturumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats08:41
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me2winabbot45: im sure there is, but im not sure off hand how to do it08:41
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newbie33it started and gone08:41
newbie33:o08:41
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FlannelKingabbot45: I suppose you could mount, and then just symlink to the mount point for the desktop08:42
newbie33I think I have to reinstall it somehow08:42
VSFHI got a question for anyone who knows a bit about wvdial / gnomeppp08:42
brian_hey, I have a question, I am running ubuntu 5.10, and I am wanting to swap out my sound card. I am wondering can I just swap it out or do I have to change some settings first?08:42
fyrestrtrhow to get X to use TTF fonts or font smoothing? I already enabled the LCD font setting, but fonts -- especially in FF look very jagged.08:42
ggilbertbrian_: just swap away08:42
VSFHbrian_: just swap it out08:42
ggilbertbrian_: It should handle it all on its own08:42
abbot45FlannelKing, yeah, but then how to i get rid of the icon that it puts there by default?08:42
brian_cool, thanks08:43
VSFHquestion on wvdial / gnomeppp -- running wvdial from a terminal will get me online (most the time), running gnomeppp (with the same settings, analog modem, stupid mode on, check carrier off) will not get me online08:44
_jasonnewbie33: what did it say in the terminal?08:44
_jasonnewbie33: wait, you aren't root are you??08:44
VSFHI had to chmod +s wvdial so that it would run as root, otherwise it can't open the modem. any ideas ?08:44
newbie33Im root08:44
_jasonnewbie33: why?08:44
obscuriteanyone know how to do the equivalent of chkconfig --list in debian/ubuntu/sysv?08:44
HymnToLifeVSFH> then use wvdial, what's wrong with it ?08:44
tonyyarussoVSFH: Same happened for me.  I just used wvdial.08:44
newbie33want to do many things08:45
_jasonnewbie33: don't run firefox as root08:45
newbie33ok08:45
newbie33omg08:45
newbie33I cant find simple terminal08:45
VSFHHymnToLife, I just don't like having the term there running wvdial. I get 2 other problems as well - it doesn't 'hangup' correctly if it doesn't connect on the 1st dial and just tries over and over and over again08:45
tonyyarussonewbie33: Or an IRC client for that matter.  In fact, I would avoid doing anything online as root besides fetching updates.08:45
newbie33after dist upgrading it has gone :/08:45
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_jasonnewbie33: it's moved to accessories08:46
VSFHnewbie33: go to applications and then to "Add Applications"08:46
Frogzoonewbie33: apps -> accessories -> terminal08:46
newbie33oje08:46
HymnToLifeVSFH> I usualy kill it with Ctrl+C ant run it again when it happens08:46
newbie33found08:46
Ademanthis isnt really ubuntu related, but does anyone know how to merge faces in wings3d?08:46
VSFHor not08:46
newbie33rkz@tyla:~$ firefox08:46
newbie33rkz@tyla:~$08:46
HymnToLifeand I guess you can run it with & to have it run in the background08:46
scifihey guys, when i mount my ntfs partition so i can access the files after a reboot it is no longer mounted, is it possible to save it mounted?08:46
newbie33gives no action08:46
VSFHHymnToLife: that's what I do too08:46
cdubyaobscurite, maybe here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2058308:47
VSFHscifi: save it in /etc/fstab08:47
_jasonnewbie33: are there any instances of firefox running now? (use ps again)08:47
Frogzoo!ntfs08:47
ubotufrom memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions08:47
cdubyascifi, yeah, what VSFH said. :)08:47
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newbie33no08:47
HymnToLife!rll scifi about ntfs08:47
VSFHscifi: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_backup08:47
ubotuHymnToLife: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:47
newbie33only xchat08:47
HymnToLife!tell scifi about ntfs08:47
obscuritecdubya - looking, thanks08:47
VSFHd'oh08:47
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XamDMscifi, http://ubuntuguide.org/08:47
cdubyaobscurite, np, hope it helps08:47
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obscuritecdubya - update-rc.d doesn't seem to have a list option08:48
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VSFHHymn: how bout this last one - I get PPPD death error 15 a lot, is there a way I can up the # of failed requests  ?08:48
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scifithx guys08:48
VSFHit happens especially if I try to webbrowse while downloading updates08:48
XamDMscifi, ntfs is read-only08:48
HymnToLifeyeah same here, never found a workaround...08:48
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HymnToLifehopefully I'll get DSL soon08:49
cdubyaobscurite, a list option.....you're going to have to help me out there.....08:49
newbie33apt-get remove firefox08:49
VSFHsounds like we're about in the same boat08:49
cdubyaI'm not real familiar with chkconfig08:49
newbie33maby it helps08:49
scifiXamDM: yes i know m8, only want to ACCESS not append files on it08:49
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newbie33E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)08:49
obscuritecdubya - I want to see a list of services and what run levels they run at08:49
cdubyaah08:49
cdubyahang on08:50
p47Hello ! Ubuntu dapper can not open gdesklets | do you know why ?08:50
bolrod /etc/rc1.d/ .. etc08:50
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VSFHhere's a bizarre thing -- Ubuntu is the only thing I've seen apart from a partitioner program I saw (didn't work) that can change and resize partitions (like ntfs) and keep data intact... how is it you can do this, but there's no rw support for ntfs ?08:50
bolrod1 for being runlevel 108:50
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cdubyaobscurite, yeah, they're all under /etc in the particular run level it looks like08:51
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obscuritecdubya - I know that, just wanted a nice concise list. :) thanks for trying08:51
PuMpErNiCkLeVSFH: Dunno how they do it, but ntfs is writable now, thanks to the Captive project. (and ReactOS and WINE) http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/08:51
fyrestrtrVSFH: because editing the partition table, is not the same as writing files.08:51
ZeZuhmm nv-glx isn't working here or it dodn't configure xorg.conf correctly08:51
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bolrodand in /etc/inittab  is also some info I thought08:51
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cdubyaobscurite.....have you checked out bum/08:51
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bolrodthough not the services I think08:52
scifiHymnTolife: can i guess ur problem was usb modem not recognized?08:52
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bc_hi _jason08:52
obscuritebolrod - nothing about services, just run levels themselves08:52
obscuritecdubya - no, what is bum/?08:52
bolrodand some getty stuff08:52
VSFHfyrestrtr: yeah, obviously so, but it used to be if you wanted to create a new partition and had no space for it, you had to remove the old one, and lose all the data08:52
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cdubyaobscurite, sudo apt-get install bum08:52
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bc_how to mount vfat system08:52
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cdubyaobscurite, I suspect it may what you're looking for08:53
Frogzoohow do I get dpkg-buildpackage to build an unstripped binary? (tried setting CFLAGS=-g, but the binary got stripped anyhow)08:53
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HymnToLifescifi> not at all, my modem works pretty fine, thanks ;)08:53
ZeZu!nvidia08:53
ubotumethinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736808:53
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dan_where do i got codec for a .avi from?08:53
cdubyaobscurite, it's for boot up manager08:53
Frogzoo!restricted08:53
ubotuwell, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats08:53
obscuritecdubya - i was checking out sysv-rc-conf, but it didn't have a way of printing out a list, and the ncurses seems wonky over screen sessions08:53
Ademanwhy the heck is my first connect to a server (through http) so damn slow, and then all subsequent requests are fairly fast?08:53
zFFlannelKing, did you read any of what he said? -/-08:53
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FrogzooAdeman: like 30 seconds slow?08:54
Ademanyeah08:54
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fyrestrtrobscurite: if ncurses is "wonky" as you so colorfully put it, check your lang settings :)08:54
bc_pls help me08:54
cdubyaobscurite, bum gives me a list of services on it's own tab and runlevels, listed nicely......:)08:54
FrogzooAdeman: you using a search list? sounds like a dns problem08:54
Ademanfar slower than my windows box (the one i'm on right now)08:54
VSFHI still haven't had any luck with that; I installed w32codecs gstreamer and all the subsequent bits and still can't play an mp3 or video file08:54
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obscuritecdubya - will check it out thanks.08:54
bc_how to mount vfat system that can be rw08:54
AdemanFrogzoo: yeah, it does sound like that, but i thought dns was handled by your ISP08:54
cdubyanp08:54
obscuritefyrestrtr - it displays, but alignment gets weird08:54
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tony14764Hello08:55
FrogzooAdeman: first thing to try, put a '.' at the end of the dns name, think you'll find there's no delay?08:55
tony14764who can help me with DVDs?08:55
Frogzoo!dvd08:55
Ademanwhat do you mean at the end of the dns name?08:55
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)08:55
cdubyabc_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?action=show&redirect=AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions08:55
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Ademanubotu: he should also restart after installing that package, it didnt work initially for me, i had to restart08:56
dan_where do i get codec for a .avi from?08:56
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Ademan08:56
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Wolfancan anyone give me some help with running Ubuntu live?08:56
p47Help me I have problems with gdesklets08:56
FrogzooAdeman: eg 'www.google.com.'08:56
Ademanok08:56
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bc_thanks cdubya08:56
LarstiQdan_: .avi is only a container, you still need to know the used codec08:56
webwolf_27dan_, mplayer musste's haben08:56
workkhttp://www.shopperspornmart.com/sista/Videopost[nr] blackness45.html  http://www.pornsolid.com/62rhig/VP[sc] 086409oiu.html08:56
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bc_cdubya, can help me one more08:56
craig442can anyone hel me install a driver called usbvision? it's for a usb pctv device to run with tvtime.08:57
cdubyabc_, I can try08:57
dan_I got sound but no picture08:57
scifiwow that mount script is impressive, can i just use the disks manager to unmount the drives i dont want mounted?08:57
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bc_i want to update my kde 3.4 to 3.508:57
dan_i need the codecs but i dunno one for linux08:57
_jason!kde3.508:57
ubotuTo upgrade to to the latest KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".08:57
Wolfaneverything seems to go okay, I start up the system and it loads then goes blank and sticks there08:57
dan_will divz work?08:57
_jasonubotu: tell dan_ about multimedia08:57
cdubyabc_, what _jason said. heh08:57
bc_sorry08:58
LiteWaitIs is true... I can just update to UB 6.06 from 5 using update-manager -d ?  It does seem to find the 6.06 packages.08:58
cdubyanp08:58
FlannelKingzF: any of what who said?08:58
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AdemanFrogzoo: it always appends a / after my URL, so it doesnt like that when i add the dot... however     when i do... say   gamedev.net/.     its the same speed08:58
VSFHwooohoo, netsplit08:58
FrogzooAdeman: check you can ping all dns servers listed in /etc/resolv.conf08:58
bc_update to dapper  ?08:59
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Ademanalright, and then remove any that i can't ping?08:59
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Hhhhhhello, when will 6.06 be officially released?08:59
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Hhhhhfinal version08:59
VSFHhere's one more question, what might the advantages be to using k7 instead of i386?08:59
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cdubyabc_, not sure about that one........I don't use KDE. :P09:00
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FrogzooVSFH: it's marginally faster - but you're actually best off running the 686 kernel09:00
cdubyabc_, it looked like you just needed to add those to your sources.list file though at first glance09:00
varsahhh09:01
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LiteWaithttp://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperdrake seems to imply an in-place uprade.09:01
vars i can't get my server install of linux to get hte xserver to work09:01
VSFHFrogzoo: I'm running a 1.25ghz Athlon, you're sure I should run off the 686 and not 386 or k7 ?09:01
bc_ok. i'll try09:01
newbie33uh firefox repaired, btw _jason  thanks for your wasted time :)09:01
bc_thanks for the help guys09:01
_jasonnewbie33: cool :)09:01
FrogzooVSFH: very sure, the k7 is 64 bit I believe?09:02
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cdubyabc_, np09:02
VSFHFrogzoo: I think that's k7-smp09:02
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AdemanFrogzoo: it specified my router's IP as a name server... is that... correct?09:03
VSFHFrogzoo: The only reason I'm bothering at all is during my install it said I could run k7 and it was for Athlon/Duron processors, and if it runs this well now, it'd be awesome if it ran even better09:03
FrogzooVSFH: nope, try 'sudo apt-get install linux-image-686'09:03
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FrogzooAdeman: well that depends, can your router forward dns queries? is that where the delay is coming from?09:03
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Ademanit probably can, and i'm pretty sure my router has its own idea of where the DNS server is anyways09:04
FrogzooVSFH: running 64bit isn't nearly as well supported as 32bit, but 686 is almost as fast as k7, hence 686 is the best option09:04
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VSFHFrog: athlon chips are 64 bit processors   ?09:05
scifiis it possible to rename the shortcuts to my ntfs drives to something more user-friendly like Windows Drives 1 & 2 ?09:06
psychiccyberfreaI have a prob09:07
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psychiccyberfreawhen I try to install the base system, it says that it was unable to install the selected kernal09:07
psychiccyberfreawhat do I do?09:07
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FrogzooVSFH: yes, but they run 32 bit code just fine, it's just a 32 bit kernel won't use the 64 bit opcodes09:07
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cdubyascifi, yeah you should be able to.09:08
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ubuntu_hi to everyone09:09
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ubuntu_can soneone help me???09:09
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psychiccyberfreashoot09:10
Dutchydont ask to ask09:10
cdubyaubuntu_, go ahead09:10
FrogzooVSFH: correction: the athlon xp's are 32bit, the a64's are 64bit09:10
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psychiccyberfreago ubuntu_\09:10
scificdubya: doesnt give me option to rename if i right click on the drives09:10
ubuntu_i have a sony09:11
Frogzooubuntu_: cool09:11
psychiccyberfreatry running the file browser as root then rightclick and hit properties09:11
ubuntu_my resolution is 1240x76809:11
ubuntu_but ubuntu dont detect it09:11
Frogzoo!xorg09:11
ubotuxorg is, like, To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html09:12
psychiccyberfrealucky, you have a good monitor...09:12
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cdubyascifi, I think it depends on what you named the directory when you created it for the mount09:12
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Frogzooubuntu_: see ubotu's post above, and this09:12
Frogzoo!fixres09:12
ubotufixres is probably Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:12
vars!nvidia09:12
psychiccyberfreatry going in a commandline and type baseconf09:12
ubotufrom memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736809:12
psychiccyberfreaI think09:12
englais it possible to add a shortcut for switching vts from X? I mean like alt-arrow in a vt, but somehow set up so that ctrl-alt-arrow switches back from X to the vt to the left/right09:12
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psychiccyberfreait will configure everything. just skip to the xwindow part09:12
LiteWaitHow do I get the lastest version of the "Update Manager" ?09:12
Frogzooubuntu_: clear as mud?09:13
linavhi all09:13
ubuntu_yup09:13
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ubuntu_another question09:13
linavi got this problem with ubuntu, an anyone plz clear this for  me09:13
psychiccyberfreasudo apt-get update09:13
psychiccyberfreaI think09:13
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Frogzooubuntu_: you'll probly need to set vertrefresh & horizsync as mentioned in fixres09:13
scificdubya: they are mounted in /media/09:13
ubuntu_have someone ever know something about "project looking glass"?09:14
cdubyascifi, yeah09:14
cdubyascifi, hang on09:14
linavwhenever i try to dowload updates or any additional packages, exactly at 3 package my system hangs09:14
linavi need to restart the machine in order to work again09:14
psychiccyberfreaOk now the install is asking me what kernel to install whado I do09:14
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linavi have installed the default ubuntu 5.10 ver09:15
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linavdid i do something wrong09:15
linavseeking ur help09:15
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sorush20can ubuntu do parallet boot scripts?09:15
romuloyo =)09:15
linavhow can i over come this downloads problem09:15
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craig442hi, is there anyone here who might be able to help me install the usbvision driver?09:16
mrshoelinav: have you changed /etc/apt/sources.list09:17
linavno09:17
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linavi just installed ubuntu and clicked the updates icon09:17
_jasonlinav: does 'sudo apt-get update' complete without errors?09:17
psychiccyberfrealinav: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list09:17
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cdubyascifi, have you worked with symlinks at all before?09:17
psychiccyberfreathen uncomment all the stuff09:17
linavlet me c09:17
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psychiccyberfreawell of corse it will, he's using the CD repository...09:18
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scificdubya: not really m809:18
cdubyascifi, you can create symlinks for each if you want.09:18
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aurore_salu09:19
cdubyascifi, ln -s /media/windows whatever_you_want_to_name_the_drive09:19
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cdubyascifi, then mv /media/windows/whatever_you_named_the_drive ~/Desktop09:19
psychiccyberfreaAnyone know how to get a fat32 part to mount as /home?09:19
NoUsepsychiccyberfrea I don't think you can do that09:20
fyrestrtrpsychiccyberfrea: why do you want to do that?09:20
micahfhey, any ideas why I am getting a virtual resolution change/09:20
micahf?09:20
psychiccyberfreadual booting windows09:20
micahfinstead of actual09:20
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fyrestrtrpsychiccyberfrea: you don't need to do that to be able to dual boot09:20
psychiccyberfreait's my friend's computer not mine09:20
cdubyapsychiccyberfrea, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?action=show&redirect=AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions09:20
linav99% [Connecting to nz.archive.ubuntu.com (202.7.6.9)] 09:20
hid3Evening everyone. Is there any package which would make my keyboard leds blink depending on the CPU usage?09:20
linavit stopped at this when i try to update in terminal09:20
cdubyayou don't need to do that....09:20
scificdubya: thanks, but will those links replce the "hda1", "hdb1" shortcuts that have already been created on the desktop, because i dont want those09:20
digitsIs there a way to change the name of the programs in the menu? By default it's the name and a short description, i'd lik to have just the name... (i know that Firefox is a Web Browser ;P) is it possible to do all at once by some setting, or do I have to change them all by hand?09:21
NoUsepsychiccyberfrea /home needs permission aware filesystems (specifically unix permissions)09:21
cdubyascifi, kewl. hope that works for ya09:21
psychiccyberfreayeah but my friend 99.9% of the time is trying to access his files via windows on linux and he has no dice09:21
_jasonlinav: yes, nz seems to be down.  Is that newzealand?09:21
linavyeh09:21
linavso do i need to try again09:21
fyrestrtrpsychiccyberfrea: he is trying to access his linux files from Windows?09:21
PwcrLinuxHello, upgraded the updates, and I got a warning line about directory not empty in line of dpkg.09:21
psychiccyberfreayes09:21
linavlater may be after some hours09:21
scificdubya:  ?09:21
_jasonlinav: try using a different mirror, just make it archive.ubuntu instead of nz.archive.ubuntu.  YOu know how to do that?09:21
psychiccyberfreaits an ex3 filesys09:21
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linavsorry no :-(09:22
_jasonlinav: or use something close like australia's09:22
fyrestrtrpsychiccyberfrea: just install the ext3 driver for windows, but really what you should do is create a fat32 partition that is shared.09:22
cdubyascifi, did you get it to work?09:22
linavok i will give it a go09:22
linavthanks a ton for your help09:22
_jasonlinav: type this: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'09:22
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_jasonlinav: that will let you edit and then just run the 'sudo apt-get update' command again09:22
psychiccyberfreaok where do I get the driver? sourceforge?09:22
fyrestrtrpsychiccyberfrea: otherwise your friend has a great chance of messing up permissions on this linux partition while he is goofing off in Windows.09:22
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scificdubya:  havent tried it yet, wanted to know if they will replace the default shortcuts already on my desktop befeo i run the commands?09:22
fyrestrtrpsychiccyberfrea: don't know, but sf would be a good bet.09:22
digitspsychiccyberfrea: tell him to install colinux (www.colinux.org), with that he can install a minimal linux dist and access the partition directly09:22
scifibefore*09:23
cdubyascifi, Oh, sorry.....:-O09:23
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psychiccyberfreak thanx09:23
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cdubyascifi, if you create the symlinks, then mv them to the desktop, as long as the symlinks aren't the same name, I don't think you'll have any issue09:23
tony14764!dvd09:23
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)09:23
psychiccyberfreaeven though I hate windows with all my heart he likes it anyway... lol09:23
PwcrLinuxbrb09:23
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freezeywhats the name of the software that comes with ubuntu that you can get applications online09:23
freezeyappget?09:24
cdubyascifi, so if you create the new ones and they work the way you want, then just dump the old ones and you're all good....09:24
freezeyapp get? something or other09:24
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cdubyafreezey, apt-get, synaptic09:24
scificdubya:  it says : "ln: when making multiple links, last argument must be a directory09:25
scifi" when i run the command09:25
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fyrestrtrfreezey: synaptic09:25
freezeycdubya: and to start it up whats the command09:25
cdubyascifi, what did you type?09:25
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freezeysynaptic09:25
freezeyok gotit09:25
cdubyafreezey, synaptic09:25
cdubyaheh09:25
freezeylol09:25
freezeythanks09:25
cdubyanp09:25
fyrestrtrfreezey: system -> administration -> synaptic package manager09:26
scificdubya: i typed "ln -s /media/windows Windows Boot Drive"09:26
psychiccyberfreaor if you have katapult ALT+SPACE synaptic09:26
psychiccyberfreaENTER09:26
fyrestrtrcdubya: ln -s /media/windows "Windows Boot Drive"09:26
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cdubyafyrestrtr, I didn't use spaces in mine, so it worked....heh09:27
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fyrestrtrcdubya: I try to avoid spaces in directory names -- I recommend you do ln -s /media/windows windows-boot-drive09:27
scificdubya: btw the drives are mounted directly into /media/ not /media/windows/09:27
cdubyascifi, so how many mounts are you trying to create symlinks for?09:27
scificdubya: just 2, the windows boot drive and a large storage drive09:28
cdubyascifi, k.09:28
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paxmasterI have just download some rar files but how could I extract all of the rar to create one file09:28
freezeywhich one do you guys recomment samba or samba-common?09:28
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freezeyisn;t there a samba 2?09:28
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PwcrLinuxSeem work good09:28
cdubyascifi, and you know the mount points specifically for each?09:28
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scificdubya: yes they are both in /media/09:29
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cdubyascifi, ln -s /media/mtpnt1 WindowsBootDrive or ln -s /media/mtpnt1 windows-boot-drive ......whatever your flavor09:29
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CptMillerhi @ all09:30
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CptMillerI've got the following problem: I installed a clean version of the beta version and I can't make an apt-get update...09:31
scificdubya: k that worked, now do the move to desktop command? but how does it know which drive i want named bootdrive and which i want to call something else?09:31
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itrebalis it *possible* using apt-get to go from debian sarge to ubuntu09:31
cdubyascifi, mv /media/symlink_name ~/Desktop09:31
CptMillerit seems, like the de.archive.ubuntu.com seems to be down, but if I ping the IP of the host, ill get responses09:31
ubuntulnxanyone know if it is possible to change your window controls to the left side?09:32
CptMillerany ideas?09:32
itrebali've heard of something similar happening09:32
fyrestrtrCptMiller: maybe the web server is down.09:32
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ubuntulnxanyone have success with mythtv in ubuntu?09:32
fyrestrtrCptMiller: have you tried another mirror (and btw, Dapper is in #ubuntu+1)09:32
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CptMilleroh sorry, I will quickly change channels09:32
fyrestrtrubuntulnx: what do you mean window controls?09:32
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ubuntulnxfyrestrtr: you know the exit, maximize, and minimize buttons09:33
tonyyarussoI need help resizing a partition backwards in GParted.  As in, there's free space preceding it on the disk.  How can I use that?09:33
bc_cdubya, i'm confuse.....09:33
cdubyatonyyarusso, heh, you're having some fun, huh?09:34
cdubyabc_, about?09:34
bc_there are so many package09:34
cdubyabc_, yeah09:34
cdubyabc_, are you still trying to upgrade KDE?09:34
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ubuntulnxfyrestrtr: you know what i mean?09:34
bc_which one should i install09:34
scificdubya: it says:" mv: cannot stat `/media/WindowsBootDrive': No such file or directory"09:34
bc_yes09:34
cdubyascifi, ls -l /media09:34
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tonyyarussocdubya: Yep.09:34
cdubyascifi, do you see the symlink you created?09:35
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cdubyatonyyarusso, ;)09:35
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bc_how to upgrade it09:35
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itrebalif i were to change my sources from debian sarge to ubuntu, and did an apt-get dist upgrade would that work :/ ?09:36
bc_ubotu09:36
cdubyabc_, wish I could help you out more there.....I just don't use KDE anymore. You added the mirrors to your sources.list, right?09:36
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cdubya!kde3.509:36
ubotuTo upgrade to to the latest KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".09:36
scificdubya: no but for some reason i see a link created in my home directory09:36
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rdasshttp://hornystarlet.com/bb/124/vdpst.htm  http://www.freebigmovies.com/09:36
cdubyascifi, is it the one you just created?09:36
lakiboobswhat's the equivalent command in linux for tracert in windows?09:37
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meshelakiboobs: traceroute09:37
bc_ooo, thanks ubotu, cdubya09:37
scificdubya: it must be its called WindowsBootDrive09:37
cdubyauh, traceroute09:37
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lakiboobsthanks09:37
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cdubyascifi, then mv /home/WindowsBootDrive ~/Desktop .....then try it :)09:37
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Sianis_hi all09:37
cdubyabc_, is that what you were looking for?09:37
geskerI'm trying 6.06 beta. The system grinds to a halt after a few hours. Could someone offer a tip on where I could look to determine the cause?09:37
itrebalscifi: and if that doesn't work, try mv ~/ /dev/null09:38
Sianis_i have a little problem09:38
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Sianis_with the Network Manager09:38
lakiboobs..09:38
Sianis_why i cannot join to open wifi networks?09:38
Sianis_the WPA - PSK / WEP works, but it cannot connent to open networks09:38
Sianis_why?09:38
Bobrownikhuston - we have a problem09:38
fyrestrtrgesker: try asking in #ubuntu+109:39
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soulfreshneris there a way for me to get dvd images of the standard repositories of ubuntu?09:39
scificdubya: its moved the link to dekstop, but says link it broken if i double-click it09:39
geskerfyrestrtr: Thanks.. Will do09:39
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soulfreshnermy internet line is very slow and installing anything over a few MB takes ages09:39
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fyrestrtrscifi: right click on it, and see where it is pointing to09:39
cdubyascifi, yeah, what fyrestrtr said09:40
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Blissexsoulfreshner: not of the standard repositories... Of the periodic releases, yes.09:40
itrebalwhats the latest ubunut?09:40
linaI tried to listen to radio using rhythmbox but failed, any tips?09:40
cdubyascifi, the link target09:40
erUSULitrebal: 5.10 breezy09:40
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Frogzooitrebal: breezy 5.10 is latest stable release09:40
itrebalthanks09:40
fyrestrtrlina: it failed how?09:41
scificdubya/fyrestrtr: link target:/media/mtpnt1, but how does it know which drive is mntpnt1? that is probly causing the problem ?09:41
soulfreshneritrebal - but it's worth trying out dapper09:41
Blissexsoulfreshner: but perhaps some of the mirrors do a ''burn to cdrom'' service. There were a few big sites that did that. But I guess now that many people have broadband they might have given up.09:41
cdubyascifi, yeah, that's it09:41
CNAPanybody ever upgrade their kernel, and lost their NIC?09:41
linait's not playing09:41
itrebalsoulfreshner: is dapper the next vesrion?09:41
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cdubyascifi, open terminal and cd Desktop09:41
fyrestrtrscifi: the 'how it knows' is that its getting the information from your fstab file09:41
soulfreshneritrebal: yep - but it's beta09:41
bc_ubotu, can help me with kbfx09:41
ubotubc_: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:41
itrebalsoulfreshner: i'll give it a shot09:41
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fyrestrtrlina: what kind of radio station?09:42
BWDi just installed ubuntu, and firefox is insanely slow compared to fedora (what i was using before). does anyone have a suggestion on what i can disable to get firefox up to a usable speed?09:42
soulfreshneritrebal: I haven't found anything strange yet, though09:42
linalive365.com09:42
cdubyascifi, when I typed that mtpnt1 before, I was wanting you to substitute the mount point for the two drives you said you had09:42
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cdubyascifi, mtpnt1 for the first, and so on.....09:42
cdubyascifi, that make sense?09:42
soulfreshneritrebal: and XGL sets up easily in Dapper so you have 3D acceleration and effects on your desktop09:42
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Frogzoobc_: ubotu tries to be helpful, but he's a little slow on the uptake09:42
itrebalsoulfreshner: i'm going to be trying something i've never done before, which is apt-get dist-upgrade, from debian sarge09:42
fyrestrtrlina: live365.com -- what kind of stream do they provide? real player? shoutcast? or something else.09:43
scificdubya: o riiiight, so mtpnt1 shud be hda1 ?09:43
cdubyascifi, yeah09:43
fyrestrtritrebal: we'll see you back in here.09:43
itrebalfyrestrtr: will it fail? miserablyu?09:43
soulfreshneritrebal: that might be...interesting :)09:43
mesheBWD: the version of firefox that comes with breezy is slow, you need to update it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion09:43
fyrestrtritrebal: survey says .... yes :P09:43
itrebalhaha09:43
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scificdubya: lool ok erm, i need to do symlink commadn again then ?09:43
erUSULitrebal: not sure if it's a good idea. ubuntu (breezy) and debian are quiet different09:43
itrebali'll make sure to backup well :D09:43
Frogzooitrebal: it's worth mentioning, in case you didn't know, that if you miss a step you'll break your system - no sure what it is from debian - but it's hoary -> breezy -> dapper09:43
BWDmeshe: oh, thank you09:43
itrebalhell, screw that, i'll just reinstall to debian09:44
blindxwhat is the linux alternative to batch scripting?09:44
itrebalubunuu*09:44
itrebalgah, i can't spell today :)09:44
fyrestrtrBWD: or you can try the new opera 9 beta :) tis very fast09:44
scificdubya: .....or not? i have cd to Desktop09:44
mesheblindx: bash scripting09:44
itrebaltype, rather09:44
cdubyascifi, cd Desktop first09:44
blindxany links on it?09:44
scificdubya:  done09:44
Frogzooblindx: batch scripting is perfectly linux? what's the problem?09:44
cdubyascifi, then ln -s /media/hda1 WindowsBootDrive09:44
linasry fyrestrtr, I'm a noob, dunno how to answer ur Q, all I know is I could listen to it w/ windows media player on windows, but now trying to use rhythmbox on ubuntu, do u think it's possible?09:44
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itrebalhrm... how much should i give the debian install?09:45
itrebaldamnit, ubuntu09:45
mesheblindx: i'd just google "bash tutorial" or "bash howto"09:45
scificdubya:  k just let me check thats the right drive number for windows boot drive09:45
cdubyascifi, np09:45
fyrestrtrlina: oh, its windows media stream? You probably need to go through the RestrictedFormats wiki entry09:45
Frogzooitrebal: imo, 20gigs is nice09:45
blindxI just don't know how to do it? like with dos/windows you could just put the lines in a txt file and name it .bat09:45
fyrestrtr!tell lina about RestrictedFormats09:45
newbie33how to install .ttf fonts, that would run on xchat?09:45
itrebalFrogzoo: good, thats what i've got setup now... i've got a windows, linux, and a fat32 partition to fit all on the drive09:45
mesheblindx: in bash the files are .sh typically, but linux doesn't really require file extenstions09:46
Frogzooblindx: just put '#!/usr/bin/bash'  on the first line, and chmod +x the file09:46
blindxI've noticed that.09:46
blindxoh, alright. thanks09:46
soulfreshnerblindx: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html09:46
scificdubya:  it says "ln: `WindowsBootDrive': File exists" lool09:46
linaubotu gave up, lol09:46
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lina09:46
fyrestrtrlina: it did?09:46
fyrestrtr!RestrictedFormats09:46
cdubyascifi, rm WindowsBootDrive09:46
linayup09:46
uboturumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats09:46
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fyrestrtrubotu: botsnack09:46
scificdubya:  hehe thought so :)09:47
ubotu:)09:47
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Ferrohelpm e09:47
fyrestrtrlina: there ya go :)09:47
carthiknewbie33, put the font file in ~/.fonts (create the dir if you dont have it already) and then do an $fc-cache -v09:47
cdubyascifi, then hit the up arrow on your keyboard twice till you get the symlink command back and run it again....:)09:47
Ferroi am new user in ubuntu 5.1009:47
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lina??? confused09:47
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carthiknewbie33, i dont know if you have to do a $sudo fc-cache -v or just the command without sudo, try both :)09:47
scificdubya:  yep done  and ne wlink works a treat :), ty v.much09:47
Ferroi am unable to use internet in ubuntu5,1009:47
cdubyascifi, np, glad it worked. :)09:47
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newbie33carthik,  I have font on my desktop09:48
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Ferrohelp me09:48
Flogehi09:48
Ferroany one09:48
AskHLFerro, what kind of 'unable' ? Be more specific. Write a long comment explaining your pains09:48
fyrestrtrFerro: how do you connect to the internet?09:48
cdubyascifi, should be able to do that for your other drive using the same method, just with a diff symlink name09:48
intelikeysomeone that knows dpkg please tell me what  rc means in "rc  bash           3.0-13         The GNU Bourne Again SHell"09:48
Flogehow can I fix this problem: the audio comes later than the video09:48
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scificdubya:  yup working on it now09:48
carthiknewbie33, right, so open a terminal, make a new directory in your /home/your-username/ folder, called .fonts using the command $mkdir .fonts09:48
Ferroi hav ADSL EXternal modem and D-Link lan card09:48
linafyrestrtr, pls notice I'm a complete nooooooob, need step to step guide if u don't mind09:48
bobonthenetI'm new to linux and I'd like to compile and install a program I just downloaded does anyone have the time and patience to walk me through that?09:48
itrebalracotta cheese, intelikey09:48
fyrestrtrlina: go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats -- and then follow the steps to enable windows format files, then try the radio station again09:49
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Ferroin window i created PPPoE dialer09:49
Ferroto connect09:49
carthiknewbie33, then copy the .ttf file to the .fonts folder (hint - doing a ctrl+H when viewing nautilus shows you hidden files like .fonts)09:49
fyrestrtrlina: that wiki is a very step-by-step guide :) if you have any questions, just ask back in here.09:49
FrogzooFerro: sudo pppoeconf09:49
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cdubyascifi, kewl.09:49
linaoic.. lemme try... thx fyrestrtr09:49
itrebalback later!09:49
cdubyalater for a bit all.09:49
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Ferrowhere i write this09:49
Ferroin terminal window09:49
bc_ubotu, is there any swf plugin for firefox09:50
ubotubc_: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:50
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carthikFerro, open a terminal and run the command suggested. THen follow through with the questions09:50
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carthikubotu swf09:50
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, carthik09:50
Flogehow can I fix this problem: audio comes later than the video09:50
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andr3wwwhello, I was wondering if anyone can help me with my DSL please09:50
Ferrodo i need to install driver for my lan card09:50
carthikFloge, in what application?09:50
carthikFerro, in all probability it is already installed09:50
Flogetotem09:51
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erUSULFerro: which card?09:51
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newbie33carthik,  ok I pasted that font what to do now?09:51
Ferrohow to access floppy drive09:51
scificdubya:  ok link for 2nd drive also works. however the folder has a padlock on it and different permissions to boot drive link, not that its a real problem tho09:51
Flogecarthik Totem movie player09:51
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Ferroi cant access it09:51
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bobonthenetI'm new to linux and I'd like to compile and install a program I just downloaded does anyone have the time and patience to walk me through that?09:51
intelikeyFerro  mount it.09:51
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carthikFloge, hmm, try using a different audio/video output driver, like xv instead of x11 or esd insted of alsa in the config options. Not sure myself, since I dont use totem09:51
andr3wwwIs anyone here on Bell Sympatico??09:51
_jasonbobonthenet: what program?09:51
bobonthenetf4l09:51
Flogewhat is a good movie player?09:52
erUSULbobonthenet: if you are new better try to install it from the repos first09:52
erUSUL!tell bobonthenet about repos09:52
Ferrohow will u tell me the procees i am new in linux today i installed09:52
carthikFerro, does the floppy drive show up? try popping a good floppy in, and there should be an icon on your desktop09:52
erUSUL!tell bobonthenet about synaptic09:52
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_jasonFloge: mplayer, xine, vlc09:52
intelikeyFerro  sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy         if /mnt/floppy doesn't exist make it or choose another dir.09:52
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_jasonubuntu: tell bobonthenet about compile09:52
Xardas_afkh09:52
Xardas_afkhi09:52
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shrikihi, i'm new!09:52
Ferroya icon is there09:52
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Xardas_afkdoes here anyone use lilypond?09:52
Ferrowhen i open my computer09:53
carthikFloge, I personally prefer mplayer, with the gstreamer plugins, and the w32codecs - so I can use it for all formats.09:53
fyrestrtrshriki: welcome09:53
bobonthenetthanks that should help09:53
carthikFerro, click on the icon, with a floppy in the drive. that is all you'll need to do09:53
Flogecan I download w32codecs and gstreamer plugins from synaptic?09:53
erUSULbobonthenet: no preblem09:53
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_jasonubotu: tell bobonthenet about compile09:53
Ferroi did09:54
fyrestrtrFloge: yes09:54
Ferroerror came09:54
shrikiI was wondering if anyone knew a good programs that downloads music like SoulSeek for Ubuntu?09:54
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carthikFloge, you will have to add the PLF repository to the sources.list file first09:54
fyrestrtr!tell Floge about RestrictedFormats09:54
Ferrounable to access09:54
Frogzoobobonthenet: usually don't bother compiling - just install using synaptic from the provided repos09:54
intelikeyFerro also if udev hasnt made the device node  then use  /dev/.static/fd009:54
carthik!tell me about plf09:54
scifii cant remove old desktop shortcut links to my ntfs mounted drives09:54
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erUSULshriki: nicotine is a ss client for linux09:54
Ferrodo i need to use commands only09:54
pezHi there. I have just made the conspicious move from Windows to Ubuntu. I know understand the hype about this distribution!09:54
fyrestrtrpez: glad you like it :)09:55
shrikithank you! i will definately give it a try! :)09:55
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erUSULshriki: no problem09:55
pezI did originally start with Mepis but their community was not helpful. No on posted to my thread on their forum :-(09:55
carthikFerro, is there an error message as to why you cant access it?09:55
linafyrestrtr, went there but couldn't find how to enable windows format files, couldn't even find the word windows, oh... I'm so noobish09:55
Ferronow what configuration do i need to access internet09:55
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fyrestrtrlina: alright hold on.09:56
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FrogzooFerro: sudo pppoeconf09:56
linak, tia09:56
sebastianmaresHey guys, I have some trouble with the new Dapper - X server won't start.09:56
Ferrook09:56
PwcrLinuxhell, pls check on my paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1262009:56
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carthikFerro, go to system - administration -> netowrking and set up your adsl connection info there09:56
PwcrLinuxerr hello09:56
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Ferrolet me note it down09:56
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sebastianmaresI tried with both a fresh installation and with the live CD.09:56
_jason!dapper09:56
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)09:56
pezI have a question... it took a long time to configure Ubunty with my hardware... why does Linux have such hardware problem with IBM-PC architecture?09:56
Frogzoosebastianmares: #ubuntu+1 for dapper issues09:56
scifine ideas guys?09:56
sebastianmaresOK, thanks.09:56
carthikpez, might be just some odd hardware you have in your pc...09:57
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fyrestrtrlina: okay I will help you out, but my deal is you must be looking at the wiki page :)09:57
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newbie33!locale09:57
ubotunewbie33: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:57
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linak, pls guide09:57
Frogzoopez: depends on the hardware, if it's recent, shouldn't be a problem09:57
mheslephi all - net install question here:09:57
erUSULpez: no idea my ibm-pc has no problems... maybe linux hates you 8^P09:57
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Ferroi tried in networking09:57
carthiknewbie33, you can do a /msg ubotu locale to spare us the text (and get a room where you can ask ubotu stuff) :)09:57
mheslepHow do I cet the effect of the preseed syntax 'd-i     mirror/http/hostname    string 192.168.1.22' on the boot prompt command line instead?09:58
Rikohi guys, i just installed wu-ftpd on my comp and when i try to connect on port 21 i get connection refused... is PS AX | grep ftpd and  can't find the ftp server running?09:58
Ferrowhat to do in dialup09:58
fyrestrtrlina: the first thing you have to do, is follow the screenshots and instructions on this page > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto09:58
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linaw809:58
pezcathik: from my research at uni for my dissertation, 94% of windows users that tested out Linux aborted the transistion because of hardware recognition problems09:58
intelikeyso anyone know what "ii rc uu" and the like, mean in a dpkg list ?09:58
fyrestrtrRiko: have you started it?09:58
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Flogehmm09:58
FlogeE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)09:58
FlogeE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?09:58
Rikofyrestrtr, yea! I have it as running in my services page09:58
Flogewhat do i have to do09:58
erUSULFloge: do not paste please use pastebin09:58
fyrestrtrFloge: close Synaptic09:58
Ferroi am using ethernet09:59
Flogesry09:59
Flogek09:59
scifii cant remove the old desktop shortcut links to my ntfs mounted drives09:59
carthikRiko, editthe configureation file for the server,a nd start it /etc/init.d/whatever start09:59
fyrestrtrRiko: did you edit the configuration file?09:59
PwcrLinuxclose the program floge before doing a sudo'ing09:59
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Rikofyrestrtr, /etc/wu-ftpd?09:59
Frogzoopez: which distro, & which release? or it was just whatever they tried?09:59
fyrestrtrRiko: don't know what it is on Ubuntu09:59
Rikoi havent edited it... i'll do that now09:59
pezI think if it can be intuitive for the windows users for their linux distribution then more Window users will jump ship09:59
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mheslepSo, any net install experts here?09:59
erUSULpez: this is support channel go to #ubuntu-offtopic for linux bashing and general chat ;)09:59
fyrestrtrRiko: does it show up when you type lsof -i ?09:59
Ferrocan u give me some link10:00
Ferrofrom where i can see how to do all these steps10:00
gilianimawhat is the basic package to install to compile a tarball ?10:00
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pezI didn't ask for a specific release.. but most of the Window users experimented - mainly- Fedora Core10:00
Frogzoogilianima: build-essential10:00
fyrestrtrgilianima: sudo apt-get install build-essential10:00
pezand Suse was high up there10:00
carthikpez, little we can do about hardware that doesn't have drivers. For windows the manufacturers write their own, for linux, we have to write the drivers ourselves :)10:00
intelikeyferro !wifi ?10:00
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Rikofyrestrtr, no it doesnt10:00
Ferrono10:00
fyrestrtrRiko: hrmm, then its not running10:00
FerroADSL modem10:00
Ferrousing lancard10:00
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testinghey, im having problems with my dcc send in irssi.. not sure what the problem is, can someone help me troubleshoot it? i can send fine through konversation and another irc client but with irssi, all my transfers are stalled when they are sent..10:01
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Ferroethernet10:01
scifii cant remove the old desktop shortcut links to my ntfs mounted drives, pls help10:01
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fyrestrtrscifi: are the drives still mounted?10:01
Rikofyrestrtr, yea that's what's weird... i try to start it manually by running /usr/sbin/wu-ftpd and then do a ps ax | grep ftpd and can't find it running either10:01
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Frogzoooops was testing meant to be kicked?10:01
fyrestrtrRiko: wait a second, I have a better suggestion for you :)10:02
carthikRiko, maybe the executable's name is different from wu-ftpd10:02
kbrooks!ff1.510:02
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion10:02
scififyrestrtr: yes10:02
pezcarthik: It probably doesn't help when hardware vendors don't support their products with native linux drivers! Is there any big hardware names that strongly support Linux?10:02
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PwcrLinuxhello, pls check on my paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1262010:02
Ferrowhat i do10:02
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koobi_mind if i ask why testing was kicked?10:02
intelikeyscifi yes i hate to see drive icons.....   (one thing i have against default gnome)10:02
Rikocarthik, if wu-ftpd is in /etc/init.d/ wouldnt that be its name?10:03
meshepez: depends on the type of hardware, nvidia is pretty good for video cards10:03
carthikpez, please pop over to #ubuntu-offtopic10:03
linafyrestrtr, the synaptic package manager stated I had 1 broken package which I dunno what, and I still don't see any lights here... pls tell me the next step10:03
ploomweird - what was wrong with the testing guy??10:03
carthikRiko, not neccesarily.10:03
sebastianmaresNot much action in #ubuntu+1...10:03
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ploomI mean what did he do wrong10:03
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fyrestrtrRiko: install pureftp and then pureadmin (a gui admin utility) should help you out.10:03
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Frogzooploom: I'm thinking maybe the dcc send ?10:03
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koobi_testing is a friend of mine, i actually asked him to come over here10:03
carthikRiko, open the file wu-ftpd in a text editor and find out what the executable is10:03
Rikofyrestrtr,  i'll try thanks10:03
pezsure. sorry. is there a URL with the list of IRC rooms so I dont get asked to leave again LOL10:03
erUSULploom: d****cc i think10:03
_jason!ops10:03
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee10:03
fyrestrtrlina: okay hold on a sec -- do you have Synaptic open?10:04
linayup, it's open10:04
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PwcrLinuxwhoa, text triggered to be kicked?10:04
fyrestrtrpez: type /list10:04
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ploomis dee sii sii something as bad as fu uu k??10:04
scififyrestrtr: ne ideas?10:04
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pezthanks :-)10:04
erUSULploom: just make sure you do not mention it like Frogzoo10:04
fyrestrtrscifi: missed your question.10:04
_jasonSeveas: testing did it above and frogzoo10:04
scifii cant remove the old desktop shortcut links to my ntfs mounted drives, pls help10:04
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ploomdamn - didnt know its abusive lang :-D10:04
scififyrestrtr: yes they r still mounted10:04
carthikpez, the message welcoming you to this room has a reference to #ubuntu-offtopic in it :)10:04
Frogzoook, that was funny10:04
fyrestrtrlina: okay click on Custom on the bottom, then in the list, click Broken10:05
Seveas_jason, thanks10:05
fyrestrtrscifi: that's probably why the icons are still there.10:05
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intelikeyguys there is a bug in some routers that picks up the string dcc.send  so to keep that from disconnecting people in here there is a ban on using that string in this channel.10:05
koobi_thanks Seveas, but mind if i ask why testing was banned? accident?10:05
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cgibhey all, i have a problem with gFTP...it's giving me a 'Could not read from socket: Connection reset by peer' error about 80% of the time...any ideas?10:05
linaoh... it said skype... thought it worked10:05
schlurchzHi all. <http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperbeta> doesn't load the images here. Does it work for you or is the server overloaded?10:05
Seveaskoobi_, there was a lot of exploiting of known bugs in firewalls and anti virus software recently10:06
Frogzoointelikey: yes, but the string is more than just 'dccxsend'10:06
scififyrestrtr: i have nicely renamed symlinks for the drives, but dont want the default direct links too, is there not a way of turning them off when drives r mounted?10:06
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fyrestrtrcgib: enable passive ftp, that should fix it.10:06
pezis this chatroom ok to talk about discussing spefic problems relating to Ubuntu? As I did come on here to discuss that my USB devices are not being picked up in my Ubuntu 5.10 distro10:06
intelikeyFrogzoo what ?10:06
cgibfyrestrtr: i tried that, and it says 'No route to host'10:06
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koobi_ah10:06
scifipez: thats xactly what this rooms for :)10:06
fyrestrtrscifi: yes there is, but I don't know why you went though all that trouble with symlinks -- when there is an easy way to "permanently" change the names. Wish I was here from the beginning.10:06
carthikpez, of course, you can just ask. if it is inappropriate someone will tell you , always politely.10:06
marcin`hi guys I need really fast help10:06
fyrestrtrcgib: are you having internet problems?10:07
schlurchzPlz can someone test the URL?10:07
marcin`I installed dapper beta on some laptop (noname crap)10:07
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carthikmarcin`, you can speed up the rate by actually asking the wuestion faster...10:07
koobi_testing was just asking why irssi DCC's don't work. he's aware that it doesn't work on freenode but even on other servers it doesnt but DCC works via konversation - confusing10:07
scififyrestrtr: omg lol!! (cries)10:07
marcin`and everything works great10:07
carthikand on one line.10:07
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_jasonmarcin`: #ubuntu+1 for dapper please10:07
Frogzoointelikey: I thought they were longer strings, but seems you get kicked for 'dccxsend'  where x=' '10:07
marcin`except keyboard - this keyboard has FN key10:07
Seveas@unload exploitban10:07
cgibfyrestrtr: nah, i can get on the web and IRC (obviously)..and i'm able to telnet and SSH out10:07
Seveas@load changuard10:07
scififyrestrtr: well i just want to turn the default symbols off and leave my new symlinks10:07
marcin`and it behaves like this FN key is down10:08
SeveasFrogzoo, the part after "dcc send" was too variable, even for a regex10:08
m_tadeuhi...i'm unable to run wvdial on a pcmcia modem...can anyone help, plz?10:08
pezexcellent! ;-) is there anyone kind enough to help me with my USB problem? It probably is something simple but is transparent to me as Im a noob10:08
marcin`and I have to press this button to write some characters10:08
FrogzooSeveas: cool, just was a little surprising to trip over it10:08
mheslepscifi: have any experience with net installs and/or preseed?10:08
Rikouhm, this is weird10:08
Seveaswon't happen again, it's been disabled10:08
erUSULpez: just ask10:08
fyrestrtrscifi: you are going to cry when you read how easy it is > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RenameUSBDrive10:08
intelikeyFrogzoo yes      don't you remember when someone would pop in and type "DCC.SEND" and a quarter of the people in the channel would exit......10:08
koobi_Seveas: was the "@load..." directed at me?10:08
Frogzoointelikey: I remember10:08
Seveaskoobi_, no, at Ubugtu 10:08
linafyrestrtr, it was skype... the broken one.. what should I do?10:08
koobi_ah ok10:08
marcin`because for example I got "numeric" keyboard on this laptop - and this numeric keyboard should be active when FN is down10:09
Rikofyrestrtr, ok so i removed wu-ftpd, i installed pureftp and pureadmin, when i run pureadmin it tells me it's unable to retrieve info about server activities10:09
fyrestrtrlina: hrmm, you can remove it -- how did you install it?10:09
linait came w/ easyubuntu10:09
fyrestrtrRiko: probably because (again) server is not running.10:09
sebastianmaresAny idea if some of the Ubuntu devs are going to make some drivers for Lexmark all-in-one devices based on the Linux driver SDK?10:09
m_tadeuanyone?...i'm unable to run wvdial on a pcmcia modem...can anyone help, plz?10:09
Rikofyrestrtr, i started the server10:09
carthikmarcin`, please type your question on one line. Everyone has trouble following your problem. Make it short, sweet and precise10:09
marcin`but unfortunately now when I try to write 'U' then I get '4'10:09
TaserI've got a Dell Inspiron 4000 laptop running Ubuntu, but the TrackPoint device (nub in the middle of the keyboard) seems to be defective. In Windows, I can disable it, but I can't seem to do so in Ubuntu. Does anyone have any pointers?10:09
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scififyrestrtr: but they arent usb drives, they are internal drives, wud that matter? :P10:09
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fyrestrtrRiko: on what port is it running, and is it setup to accept connections from localhost? How are you connecting to it?10:09
marcin`carthik: well it's hard to write this in one line10:09
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sebastianmaresUnfortunately, Lexmark doesn't have plans to make Linux drivers for certain models themselves (X5150 for example),10:10
Rikofyrestrtr,  but it's still not showing up in the lsof -i10:10
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simonpcaplop10:10
linaif I remove it, can I re-install it coz I need it...10:10
scifimheslep: sorry m8 no, im a noobie :P10:10
fyrestrtrscifi: not a bit.10:10
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pezOK. My current problem is this: I have an ipod and a 512MB USB disk.. when i connect them into the usb devices, Ubuntu does not recognive them (i assume this as they dont appear on the Gnome desktop). I know that there isn't a problem with the USB devices as they worked fine with Mepis before I made the right move to Ubuntu10:10
fyrestrtrRiko: hrmm -- okay, how did you start it up?10:10
paxwhat CLI mail client is installed default?10:10
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dan_How do i install Skype?10:10
Bobrownikhuston - we have a problem10:10
_jasonpax: mutt I think10:10
pax!skype10:10
Rikofyrestrtr, /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd start10:10
ubotuwell, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/10:10
fyrestrtrpez: when you plug them in, check in Computer -- they don't always show up on the desktop.10:11
carthikmarcin`, well, it's really not, if you think a little before you type. "marcin`'s keyboard's function key seems to be stuck, so that his keyboard behaves strangely. How can he fix this?"10:11
intelikeyFrogzoo don't happen to know what or where to read about the meaning of the first two letter code that  dpkg -l  puts out   do you ?      like  ii is installed something   but what  rc  uu  and so forth ?10:11
fyrestrtrRiko: any errors? what does the log say? what does it say in /var/log/messages or /var/log/pureftp.log (or whatever it is called)10:11
carthikmarcin`, well, is the fn key really stuck?10:11
paxJason, not even.10:11
Bobrownikcan somone help me with resolution problems?10:11
marcin`carthik: anyway - I got keyboard that has FN key and some special keys that should be accessible when FN key is down (numerical keyboard, brightness/contrast etc.) unfortunately this keyboard works like this FN is always down - and I have to press FN to write letters10:11
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Frogzoointelikey: man dpkg I'd guess10:11
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_jasonpax: what kind of install did you do?10:11
fyrestrtrlina: sorry, yes you can re-install it later.10:11
intelikeyFrogzoo it's not there.10:11
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intelikeyFrogzoo i looked there frist.10:12
paxjason, upgrade.10:12
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fyrestrtrlina: when you want to say something to me directly, type my name first so my client highlights it, otherwise I will miss it in the scroll.10:12
carthikmarcin`, find the keycode to that FN key, and disable it, perhaps?10:12
hellz_hunterok i have porn in wmv9 formats, im on amd64, will i be able to view them?10:12
_jasonpax: is this a default install? server? what version?10:12
marcin`carthik: fast question - how?10:12
scififyrestrtr:  i will use ntfsprogs for future use. but is there a way of turning the default ones off and leaving the symlinks there which i just spent some time creating!! (reminds himself to decapitate cdubya when he returns :) )10:12
hellz_hunterso far, im able to play just about any other format, except wmv910:12
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intelikeyi looked in man aptitude   man apt-cache  and  man dpkg   nothing there...10:12
Seveashellz_hunter, no, wmv9 on amd64 will be hard10:13
b_jonascan anyone help me? I'd like a 8859_2-based hungarian locale and a 8859_2 encoded fixed font for xterm, but ubuntu seems to have only utf8 ones10:13
Seveasif not impossible10:13
paxjason, dapper from breezy.10:13
carthikmarcin`, i suspect you'll find an answer here, I see quite a few: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+Fn+key+stuck10:13
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mheslepfyrestrtr: have any experience w/ network installs? preseed / boot prompt question10:13
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paxjason, I'm surprise they don't even include a mailer.10:13
fyrestrtrmheslep: not on ubuntu, sorry10:13
javadHI WHO KNOWS PROLOG HERE?PLEASE HELP ME...10:13
_jasonpax: don't know of a default cli mail client then, you can always just apt-get mutt10:13
linafyrestrtr, sry didn't know... better now... can u pls guide me thru the radio thingy... it seems u r the busiest here, umm do u want me to ask another time? it's ok w/ me10:13
gilianimaWhen compiling a tarball, I get this error message, do I need a special package? => checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool10:13
CNAPii can't access anything on the internet. can't ping, http, nothing. i check ifconfig eth0 and it's hitting my ISP and bringing down an IP address and everything. still not working10:13
mheslepfyrestrtr: or debian - same animal?10:14
paxjason, no doubt.10:14
pezThanks fyrestrtr :-) They are picked in 'Computer'. Much appreciated10:14
Rikofyrestrtr, uhm maybe i'm retarded but i can't find any log for it in /var/log10:14
fyrestrtrlina: no its okay -- have you finished the steps in that wiki with the screenshots?10:14
fyrestrtrmheslep: try Gentoo :D10:14
intelikeySeveas could you point me to documentation on the two letter code that dpkg uses  for  packages    ii uu rc   and so forth ?     i looked in man aptitude   man apt-cache  and  man dpkg   nothing  there. ?10:14
jimcooncatCNAP, is it DNS? Did you try a plain IP address?10:14
fyrestrtrRiko: did you get a [ OK ]  when you ran the init script?10:14
b_jonasplease10:14
Rikofyrestrtr, no it just returned to the next line, just like wu-ftpd did10:14
linafyrestrtr,  I'm in the synaptic package manager now, but dunno wat next10:15
fyrestrtrRiko: run it with sudo10:15
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javadWho knows PROLOG here?10:15
CNAPjimcooncat, yes i've pinged IP addresses and it still doesn't work10:15
carthikjavad, no one10:15
fyrestrtrlina: okay no problem. Next step, click on Reload10:15
marcin`carthik: well no fast answer there and in fact there are patches required when FN doesn't work at all10:15
Seveasintelikey, look at the top of the output of dpkg -l10:15
linak10:15
Rikofyrestrtr, it just hangs?10:15
intelikeyk10:15
marcin`carthik: could you tell how to disable this key?10:16
fyrestrtrlina: when that is done, send me another message, and I'll tell you the next step.10:16
scififyrestrtr:  i will use ntfsprogs for future use. but is there a way of turning the default ones off and leaving the symlinks there which i just spent some time creating!! (reminds himself to decapitate cdubya when he returns :) )10:16
pezWell thanks to eveyone that has helped me. I am off to have a bath. I'm impressed with this ubuntu chat room.  :-) No doubt I'll be in here again!10:16
fyrestrtrRiko: check the output of /var/log/messages10:16
javadPROLOG?!!!!10:16
m_tadeuanyone?...i'm unable to run wvdial on a pcmcia modem...can anyone help, plz?10:16
marcin`carthik: I need really fast solution I have to give back this laptop in 15 minutes :(10:16
carthikjavad, ask your real question, or please leave. dont keep repeating PROLOG10:16
hellz_hunteranyone else manage to get amd64 to play wmv9?10:16
fyrestrtrscifi: ah yes, sorry forgot your question. Hrmm, remove the default ones -- I don't know -- because essentially I think what you are doing now is, mounting the same device on two different places (which is perfectly legal in Linux)10:16
Frogzoointelikey: gosh, that's awkward, no docs anywhere10:16
b_jonassomeone please help. I don't want to use utf8 just because ubuntu doesn't have the necessary packages for 8859_210:16
carthikmarcin`, alright what laptop is this?10:16
intelikeySeveas hehhe thank you.   i guess sometimes  grep is not your friend...... :)10:17
Rikofyrestrtr, it just has internet input/output10:17
linafyrestrtr... I clicked reload, it said no packages selected... lol...10:17
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jimcooncatCNAP, the connection itself works ok though, for instance you're using it to post with now?10:17
marcin`carthik: some chinese crap10:17
fyrestrtrlina: okay no problem, it just needs to refresh.10:17
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fyrestrtrlina: next click on Search10:17
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linak10:17
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carthikmarcin`, are you sure it's not a hardware problem?10:17
marcin`carthik: no name - celeron 2.4/512 MB10:17
fyrestrtrRiko: type ftp localhost -- see what it tells you10:17
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intelikeyFrogzoo Seveas pointed it out....  dpkg -l | less    read the top line....    hehhe no i feel really dumb...10:17
marcin`carthik: it is ok on windows10:17
marcin`carthik: and this keyboard works good on login10:18
Bobrowniki installed breezy using a different monitor then im usind right now and the only resolution thats available is 640x??? and 60mhz , help10:18
linafyrestrtr, what should I type in the search field?10:18
Rikofyrestrtr, connection refused10:18
fyrestrtrRiko: means your server is not running10:18
TaserI've got a Dell Inspiron 4000 laptop running Ubuntu, but the TrackPoint device (nub in the middle of the keyboard) seems to be defective. In Windows, I can disable it, but I can't seem to do so in Ubuntu. Does anyone have any pointers?10:18
Rikoyea its really weird eh10:18
fyrestrtrlina: gstreamer0.8-mad10:18
trainstrokerhow do i register .mpg files to play inside firefox10:18
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fyrestrtrlina: let me know what it finds10:18
javadI have to test one prolog program but really I have problem in it!!!10:18
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Rikofyrestrtr, should i reboot my computer or something? am i missing something it needs to run?10:18
Frogzoointelikey: oic, yep, that works10:18
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fyrestrtr!tell trainstroker about RestrictedFormats10:18
scififyrestrtr: LoL ok. its just my desktop looks a bit messy now with 4 links to the same 2 drives, i'll maybe delete the symlinks then use ntfsprogs to rename the default labels :x10:18
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Frogzoo!tell Bobrownik about fixres10:19
antisocial_borisis there any reason a single file wont extract from a .zip but all the rest will10:19
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m_tadeuanyone?...i'm unable to run wvdial on a pcmcia modem...can anyone help, plz? or indicate me a better suited place to ask!10:19
LoRezantisocial_boris: that one file is corrupt?10:19
carthikmarcin`, quick fix?? well, try using xev to find out the keycode. then blacklist that key maybe ? blacklisting works like http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/02/10/unknown-key-pressed-error/10:19
antisocial_borisor to be more exact it wont extract on windows but will on ubuntu10:19
fyrestrtrRiko: no, no need to reboot -- you probably haven't configured the FTP server yet -- and it is obviously not listening on 21. You need to find the configuration file for pureftpd. It is usually in /etc/purftpd or somewhere like that. Iaef, just type sudo find / -name pureftpd.conf10:20
newbuntiewhat application do you use to burn data to cd? is there something that comes with the standard installation?10:20
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Frogzoonewbuntie: install k3b & be happy10:20
Bobrownikthanks for the fixres10:20
ggilbertnewbuntie: I'm a fan of gnomebaker, but I don't know if it's in main10:20
carthiknewbuntie, nautilus the file manager can burn cds for you10:20
dan_I read that thing on how to install Skype but i am stuck on the first part where i have to go to the download directory. I know where i downloaded it - My desktop but what would that be in cd ~/download?10:20
Rikofyrestrtr, okay sounds good... my pureadmin also has the start server part greyed out... also do i have to set up users or something? it says something when i click on user manager about creating virtual users10:21
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carthikdan_, copy it to the download directory then10:21
Frogzoodan_: 'sudo apt-get install skype'10:21
linafyrestrtr, gstreamer0.8-mad 0.8.8-1ubuntu4 MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin10:21
carthikdan_, create the download directory first if you need to10:21
fyrestrtrscifi: did you explore the Removable Drives and Media GUI helper thing from System -> Preferences ? Could be something there.10:21
CNAPjimcooncat, see that's the thing. i can't get onto the "Internet" no www, irc, ping. i just can hit my ISP bring down an IP and SM. FYI, i'm on irc using my windows box10:21
fyrestrtrlina: right it should have shown only one result on the top right window10:21
fyrestrtrlina: is that correct?10:22
dan_carthik - Where do i create one of them? I take it you mean a new folder right?10:22
linafyrestrtr, yup, correct10:22
scifineone know how to increase buffer size in x-chat?10:22
carthikdan_, well, if you need a "downloads" directory in your home folder, create one.10:22
fyrestrtrlina: click on the square and choose Mark for installation10:22
CNAPjimcooncat, if you care too i just posted my ifconfig and route onto pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1262110:22
newbuntieok, thx frogzoo ggilbert and carthik10:22
fyrestrtrlina: when you have done that, open up the Search window again10:22
carthikdan_, create what you need, where you need10:22
alexlatourHello10:23
carthikdan_, use nautilus, of course...10:23
Frogzoonewbuntie: yw10:23
alexlatourI shared a folder on my computer on the network10:23
alexlatouron the xp machine10:23
alexlatourit asks for  a user.pw10:23
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alexlatourhow do i find that out10:23
scififyrestrtr: just looked, cudnt see anything10:23
fyrestrtrlina: and this time type gstreamer0.8-plugins as your search10:23
fyrestrtralexlatour: user guest (there is no password)10:23
fyrestrtralexlatour: or, you can use your windows username/password10:23
dan_carthik - Whats  nautilus?10:24
m_tadeuanyone?...i'm unable to run wvdial on a pcmcia modem...can anyone help, plzzzzzz? or indicate me a better suited place to ask!10:24
scifineone know how to increase buffer size in x-chat so previous conversations arent wiped out of existence in current session ? :x10:24
_jasonubotu: tell m_tadeu about support10:24
linafyrestrtr, done the search, it's there... next?10:24
carthikdan_, thats the name of the default file broswer (like windows' explorer) on Ubuntu... you use it to access files etc?10:24
fyrestrtrlina: same thing, click on it, Mark for installation -- what else is in the search results?10:24
PwcrLinuxhello, pls check on my paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1262010:24
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scificarthik - looks like hes gonna be hard work lol10:25
fyrestrtrlina: there should be two -- mark them both for installation.10:25
intelikeym_tadeu hmm  pon  poff  ?10:25
carthikscifi, well, he's new, and to be honest, there is no text "nautilus" anywhere in nautilus, or the menus :)10:26
dan_carthik - and where do i need to create it? it says "cd ~/download"10:26
alexlatourfyrestrlr it doesnt work10:26
linafyrestrtr, done, it wasn't just two, there were many and I had marked them all for installation, did I do something wrong?10:26
alexlatourguest /10:26
fyrestrtrdan_: ~ is a shortcut to your home directory10:26
Rikofyrestrtr, got it... had to set /etc/default/pure-ftpd-common to run as standalone not init.d10:26
scificarthik, yeh just kiddin, im a Noobie too10:26
m_tadeuintelikey the kernel detects the pcmcia and maps it to /dev/ttyS1 properli10:26
alexlatouri also shared one of the xp's folders on the network and i cant connect to it from ubuntu10:26
alexlatourit asks for a pw10:26
carthikdan_, ~/ refers to your home directory (/home/carthik for me /home/whatever-your-user-name-is for you)10:26
m_tadeuthe device gets connected10:26
Rikoyay10:26
Rikothx10:26
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carthikdan_, so click on "places" then "home" in the menu on the top left of the screen. Then, in what opens up, right click and create a new folder and call it "download".10:27
intelikeym_tadeu i'm not familear with pcmcia  but if you can tell wvdial the correct device node it should work.... also of note you may have a winmodem and need propriatary driver10:27
m_tadeuintelikey i'm on windows right now :( thats why i'm so desperate10:27
bunglehow do i install the latest version of gnome?10:27
fyrestrtrlina: no, but just mark gstreamer0.8-plugins and gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse -- if you see a gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg there, mark that too, and unmark the rest. When you have done that, click on the green check mark button on the menu bar marked apply. If you get any prompts, just click Ok on them.10:27
dan_carthik - Yep done10:28
m_tadeuintelikey the fact is that i had this working, but i reinstalled everything and now its not10:28
intelikeym_tadeu you did a wvdialconf <file>   didn't you ?10:28
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m_tadeuintelikey yup...it fails sending an ATZ to the modem10:28
carthikdan_, there, now you can copy whatever you have on the desktop to the download folder and carry on from there, following the guide you talked about earlier10:28
scifineone know how to increase buffer size in x-chat so previous conversations arent wiped out of existence in current session ? :x10:28
itrebali just installed ubuntu, but i can't get blackbox... i thought i saw it in the packages before... any ideas?10:29
bunglehow do i install the latest version of gnome? 2.1410:29
intelikeym_tadeu mmm remove and reinsert the modem  and retry ?10:29
m_tadeuintelikey already did :(10:29
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carthikscifi, pref-interface-textbox-scrollbacklines10:29
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linafyrestrtr, I had marked them all prior to reading ur typing that only 2 there, now how could I go back?10:29
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fyrestrtrscifi: best to ask in #xchat10:30
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fyrestrtrlina: just do the search again, and they will show up.10:30
alexlatourI shared a folder on my computer on the network10:30
intelikeym_tadeu like i said "i'm not familear with PCMCIA"  i'll have to pass on this one.  hope some one else can help you get it going.10:30
alexlatouri also shared one of the xp's folders on the network and i cant connect to it from ubuntu10:30
alexlatourit askes for a pw10:30
ompaulscifi, settings preferences text settings scrollback lines10:30
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fyrestrtralexlatour: the default password is ... no password. If that doesn't work, you need to connect to it using the same username/password as your windows box.10:31
scificarthik: ty i changed it too 10,000, lol thats ok i believe?10:31
b_jonasscifi: I know10:31
dan_carthik - get the same error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1262210:31
b_jonasit's in the preferences10:31
carthikscifi, whatever suits you10:31
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marcin`carthik: well I just had to give back this laptop to customer :(10:31
b_jonasselect "Text box" on the left and change the "scrollback lines" text box value10:31
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marcin`carthik: and about xev this was first thing I did10:32
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bungle!gnome10:32
carthikdan_, dude, you still dont have that folder there :)10:32
m_tadeuintelikey i don't think its pcmcia specific....i tryed to run kppp and it reports the modem is busy....does it ring a bell?10:32
carthikdan, okay, with me, open a terminal. okay?10:32
dan_carthik - The folders there10:32
marcin`carthik: and problem was that there was no reaction in xev when I pressed this FN button :(10:32
scifib_jones, thanks but carthink/ompaul told me already m810:32
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tusharsharmahi room10:32
linafyrestrtr, I searched gstreamer0.8-plugins again, and it came out the only one there?10:32
carthikdan_, open a terminal please :)10:32
tusharsharmacan any one give a link for yahoo messanger for ubuntu10:32
alexlatourfyestrtr i tried everything nothing works10:33
intelikeym_tadeu not really.   maybe the phone line is not connected10:33
fyrestrtrlina: ah well, don't worry about it -- it shouldn't break anything. Just click on Apply10:33
Jimmey__tusharsharma, use Gaim10:33
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carthikdan, after you have, please paste the output of the command ls at the pastebin and let me know10:33
fyrestrtrtusharsharma: use gaim, or messenger.yahoo.com -- its there.10:33
TaserI've got a Dell Inspiron 4000 laptop running Ubuntu, but the TrackPoint device (nub in the middle of the keyboard) seems to be defective. In Windows, I can disable it, but I can't seem to do so in Ubuntu. Does anyone have any pointers?10:33
bunglehow do i install the latest version of gnome? 2.1410:33
dan_carthik - done10:33
tusharsharmaok did10:33
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weedarI want to encrypt a folder (or a small partition) with the strongest encryption available. What can you guys reccommend? (which tools do I need?)10:33
linafyrestrtr, should I choose to be installed or unchanged?10:33
tusharsharmaone error came when try to oprn that saved folder10:34
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carthikdan_, pastebin url please?10:34
fyrestrtrlina: just click Ok10:34
tusharsharmai think archive not supported10:34
fyrestrtrTaser: fwiw, on my Thinkpad, I can disable that damn rubberhead from BIOS10:34
itrebalany ideas why blackbox isn't on my apt-get list?10:34
intelikeym_tadeu it doesn't seem reasonable to blame hardware if you are currently talking on it.10:34
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tusharsharmaaa10:34
[cro] smileyDoes anyone have experience with building gnomemm project in Anjuta?10:34
[cro] smiley10:34
linafyrestrtr, I couldn't click ok, when I clicked appy.. it prompted to be removed, to be installed or unchanged10:35
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tusharsharmawhat i do10:35
scifijust 1 more question for tonight guys, how do i install an mp3 codec?10:35
carthikdan_, with me still?10:35
_jasonubotu: tell scifi about mp310:35
Taserfyrestrtr: Does it kill the touchpad as well? I'd just like to disable the one pointing device.10:35
odati lost my last panel10:35
erUSULweedar: look in google for loop-aes or dm-drypt10:35
odatwhat can i do?10:35
scifi_jason: ty10:36
dan_carthik - Yeah 2 secs - Soz what did you want me to type in the termonal?10:36
weedarerUSUL, but is AES really that strong an encryption algorithm? I seem to remember vaguely that there exists a stronger algorithm10:36
fyrestrtrlina: there should be an Apply button in the window that pops up when you click Apply from the main Synaptic window. Click on Apply on the window that says Apply the following changes?10:36
carthikdan_, type pwd and then type ls and paste the output of those two commands.10:36
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fyrestrtrTaser: on mine, nope.10:36
carthikdan_, at hte pastebin and gimme a url10:36
C-O-L-TUbuntu - Linux for human beings!!!10:37
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Dutchyim not human :< can I still use Ubuntu?10:37
tusharsharmaand my ubuntu unable to play mp3 too10:37
intelikeyC-O-L-T-Z-Z-Z does that mean other releases are NOT for humans ?10:37
_jasonDutchy: yes10:37
tusharsharmawhat i need to d/l10:37
dan_carthik - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1262310:37
erUSULwith dm-crypt ypu can choose from all of the kernel ones afaik10:37
fyrestrtr!tell tusharsharma about mp310:37
_jasonubotu: tell tusharsharma about mp310:37
fyrestrtrlol jason10:38
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bunglehow do i install the latest version of gnome? 2.1410:38
C-O-L-TUbuntu - Linux for human beings!!!10:38
weedarGoodie, I'll take a look at it then. Thanks erUSUL =)10:38
_jasonbungle: are you using breezy?10:38
alexlatour_jason you here10:38
carthikdan_, alright, so you have a dir called download, now try a $cd download ?10:38
Dutchyok, I was afraid Linux for humans implied ONLY humans :)10:38
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_jasonalexlatour: yeah, what's up?10:38
tusharsharmahelpm e10:38
_jason!helpme10:38
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.10:38
carthikdan_, are you sure download is a directory and not just a file?10:38
alexlatourdo you know alot about sharinG?10:38
ompaulC-O-L-T-Sleeping, rather than changing your nick you can do /away sleeping and then if someone uses your nick they get the message cheers10:38
_jasonalexlatour: sharing what?10:38
bungleyes _jason10:38
alexlatouri shared a drive on my network in ubuntu10:38
alexlatourand when i go on the xp machine it askes for a user/pw10:39
sonsnixhey guys, i need some help with my wlan card10:39
sonsnixhas anyone experience with that topic?10:39
dan_carthik - its a file10:39
linafyrestrtr, now I have a green square beside gstreamer10:39
alexlatouri put "guest" for the user and it still doesnt work10:39
_jasonbungle: dapper, the next version of ubuntu will have gnome 2.14.  It is scheduled to be released on June 1st10:39
fyrestrtrlina: yaay, means its installed :D10:39
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fyrestrtrlina: okay, now exit Synaptic10:39
bunglebut can i try 2.14 vwith breezy now?10:39
C-O-L-T-Sleepingintelikey: that is the motto of ubuntu :)10:39
carthikdan_, okay, so that is your problem, then, a file is not a directory! delete download and create a directory called download. you can do this at the command line using $rm -rf download  and then $mkdir download10:40
intelikeyompaul hmmm we could test that theory....10:40
_jasonalexlatour: ah sorry, i don't know about sharing windows drives10:40
fyrestrtrlina: then click on Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal10:40
sonsnixi installed the driver via ndiswrapper, activated my wlan card, now downloaded some firmware for the device (i dont know whether its the right one)10:40
ompaulintelikey, and I can test my response :-)10:40
alexlatourk10:40
carthikdan_, good luck with everything. I have to go now.10:40
ZeZuwhat is a quick ftp daemon to setup in ubuntu easily ?10:40
linafyrestrtr... done and thanks a lot, but still need guide to the radio? yes, I'm in terminal now10:40
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grap3Guys, I've got a problem with my fresh Ubuntu install. X won't load and says that there are no display devices. Why is it doing that?10:40
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fyrestrtrlina: yes, its not done yet.10:40
mheslepinstall question: Im trying to use some installer parameters on the command line instead of in preseed:   mirror/host string blah   and the like.  Is that possible?  The only boot/install paramters for which I can find examples are 'netcfg', etc10:40
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intelikeyC-O-L-T-Sleeping i know    and i don't like it.   it makes a claim that ubumtu is the only distro that is user friendly    and that's  a false claim.10:41
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sonsnixand when i type "ifconfig eth1 up" i get the error: "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not permitted"10:41
fyrestrtrlina: type this : mkdir installation-files && cd installation-files10:41
C-O-L-T-Sleepingintelikey: okay I will get out that away message :)10:41
ompaulintelikey, no it suggests that amoung its qualities is that it aims to be useful for humans10:41
arrickwhat are some good bittorrent sites?10:41
tusharsharmawhat plugin do i need to play mp310:41
ompaul!tell tusharsharma about restricted10:41
_jasontusharsharma: check your private messages from ubotu10:42
intelikeyas opposed to ?10:42
ompaultusharsharma, please check your messages from ubotu10:42
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fyrestrtrlina: then, copy and paste this line EXACTLY -- and hit enter : wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb10:42
tusharsharmawhat message10:42
tusharsharmalike10:42
ompaulintelikey, not useful10:42
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grap3<grap3> Guys, I've got a problem with my fresh Ubuntu install. X won't load and says that there are no display devices. Why is it doing that?10:42
ompaultusharsharma, what irc client are you using - if it is one with tabs then please click on the tab marked ubout10:42
dan_carthik - i just the message saying "bash: -rf: command not found10:42
dan_"10:42
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ompaultusharsharma, ubotu10:42
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scifiguys, ive pasted my error message on pastebin, no.d12624 after trying to install gstreamer0.8-mad, pls help10:43
intelikeylike i said,  i makes the claim that ubuntu is the only "human usable, user friendly" distro.    and that's a false claim.10:43
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sonsnixis there a german version of this channel?10:43
fyrestrtrlina: after that is finished, type this > sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb10:43
intelikey!de10:44
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de10:44
fyrestrtr!de10:44
ompaulintelikey, where is that atm?10:44
arrickdoes anyone in here use bittorrent?10:44
sonsnixthanks10:44
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networker_Why doesn't ubuntu update manager give me the new firefox?10:44
intelikeyompaul ?10:44
green_earzarrick: http://www.mininova.org/ http://thepiratebay.org/ http://isohunt.com/ http://www.chomskytorrents.org/10:44
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Xar_frustriertdoes here anyone use lilypond?10:44
tusharsharmaok i clicked double10:44
fyrestrtr!tell networker_ about ff1.510:44
Dutchyarrick, sometimes, why?10:44
ompaulintelikey, to say this -- Linux for Human Beings  -- may indicate that it is not embedded with no output10:44
networker_thank you sir10:45
arrickthanks green_earz , Dutchy I wanted the sites that weregood10:45
scifiguys, ive pasted my error message on pastebin, no.d12624 after trying to install gstreamer0.8-mad, pls help10:45
Dutchyok :>10:45
ompaulnetworker_, because the existing one gets patched and managed by the distro10:45
Dutchythere's newnova.org too :)10:45
ZarephathNeed someone to school me on how to add my hard drive to the gnome desktop?10:45
linafyrestrtr, all done... what else?10:45
fyrestrtrZarephath: just mount it, it'll show up.10:45
green_earzarrick: well whats the matter with the links i posted ?10:45
dan_!skype10:46
ubotusomebody said skype was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/10:46
AMDXP!automount10:46
Zarephathfyrestrtr: Alas this is not the case...10:46
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, AMDXP10:46
arrickI am using them, thats why I thanked you green_earz10:46
|lostbyte_laptopHelp !10:46
fyrestrtrlina: type : sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer10:46
green_earzarrick: sorry10:46
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intelikeyompaul which says other linuii are.    a simple  artical would change the meaning of the moto   "A linux for human beings"    that says there are others  but  "linux for human beings"  says it's the only one.10:46
dan_How do i create a directory?10:46
Zarephathdan_: mkdir10:47
scifipls someone take a look at my pastebin: d1262410:47
|lostbyte_laptopi cannot do "f" fullscreen for a dvd i am currently playing.. ?10:47
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intelikeydan_ assuming you have write permission   mkdir  dirname        else   sudo mkdir newdir10:47
networker_lostbyte, you need to use the xv mplayer video driver10:48
networker_i think mplayer uses straight x11 or soemthing by default and it doesn't scale10:48
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mertha#books10:48
fyrestrtrvlc does full screen dvds10:48
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networker_it'd be something like: mplayer -vo xv dvd://10:49
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bliss1_hi10:49
linafyrestrtr, I was late to reply do you want to continue, should I repeat the sudo stuff?10:49
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fyrestrtrwhat is the last thing you did?10:49
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SodiumI'm trying to run a game but it claims I got no tables.dat (I suppose it's SDL). But there are lots of SDL packages.. which one should I install?10:49
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scifiguys, ive pasted my error message on pastebin, no.d12624 after trying to install gstreamer0.8-mad, pls help10:50
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tusharsharmawhat codecs do i need to play mp3 in ubuntu10:51
erUSUL!mp310:51
ubotuit has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:51
erUSULscifi: pastebin url?10:51
networker_thanks guys i love you bye10:51
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scifierUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1262410:51
cih997hello, I want to print something on Ubuntu Live CD, anyone know how can I do it? I have a HP deskjet10:51
bliss1_erUSUL hi10:52
Crazy6hey, so, I am trying to isntall the Intel ipw3945 driver on my machine here, and I am having a bit of a problem. I have it to the point where doing a modprobe will work 9automatically loads the firmsware and daemons and provides eth1), yet the computer hangs when starting networking at boot10:52
fyrestrtrcih997: a permanent marker > HP deskjet10:52
erUSULbliss1_: hi!10:52
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chatboy!wine10:52
ompaulcih997, you need to get yourself labels and they have standard templates10:52
erUSULscifi: have you got all repos enabled?10:52
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tusharsharmadose mp3 codecs r paid10:53
beerockxscan someone help me with a xcompmgr problem?10:53
linafyrestrtr, I did, hope it wasn't a mistake... the last line was setting up mozilla-mplayer (2.70-1ubuntu1) ... and it's waiting 4 my command again10:53
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fyrestrtrlina: okay good10:53
bliss1_cannot understand whay my cpu is always running at 100%10:53
dan_Installed skype but when i click on the app it dont do anything10:53
fyrestrtrnow, go to www.live365.com -- and see if you can listen to the stream (do this first)10:53
Dutchytalking about torrents... is this one working for anyone or is it jsut me having problems: http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3281849&page=210:53
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scifierUSUL: no only the CD and community maintained repos enabled10:54
erUSULscifi: multiverse?10:54
Dutchynvm, it seems to be working now10:54
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jarushelp10:54
jaruszna sie ktos na ubuntu10:55
scifierUSUL:  yes10:55
SodiumI'm trying to run a game but it claims I got no tables.dat (I suppose it's SDL). But there are lots of SDL packages.. which one should I install?10:55
carthikjarus, what language is that?10:55
jaruspoland10:55
carthikjarus #ubuntu-pl please10:55
Nomad411!wine10:55
erUSULscifi: is very strange. are you using dapper?10:55
linafyrestrtr, the error msg said: new face failed. maybe the font path is wrong. please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf).10:55
jarusok10:55
bungle!ekiga10:55
ubotumethinks ekiga is full-featured SIP and H.323 compatible VoIP, IP-Telephony and Videoconferencing application that allows you to make audio and video calls to remote users with SIP and H.323 hardware or software.10:55
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fyrestrtrlina: hrmm -- that is weird.10:56
Nomad411no entry for wine?10:56
Nomad411!winehq10:56
ubotuNomad411: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:56
Nomad411!wine10:56
tusharsharmawhat u guys use to play mp310:56
bliss1_carthik: hi10:56
scifierUSUL:  community maintained - Universe, non-free - Multiverse, no breezy10:56
linafyrestrtr, should I click ok on that error msg?10:56
carthikbliss1_, do we know each other?10:56
ompaul!+wine10:56
ubotuWine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run the majority of windows programs. To get wine installed, download http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wine/wine_0.9.10-winehq1-2_i386.deb then follow this guide to installing it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585 More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq10:56
ZeZusetting up  ftp is a real task eh ?10:56
jarus#ubuntu-pl please10:56
Nomad411ahh.. Why the + ?10:56
carthikjarus, /join #ubuntu-pl10:57
ompauljarus,    >>>>/join #ubuntu-pl<<<<<10:57
bliss1_carthik: i think so you told me about apros10:57
erUSULit should be no problems i'm using breezy now without problems. try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade10:57
carthikbliss1_, apropos, yes10:57
ompaulNomad411, the length of it - /msg ubotu when you next want it :-)10:57
fyrestrtrlina: type sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts in your terminal, that should take care of it.10:57
Nomad411ompaul: Oh ok, thanks :)10:57
bliss1_carthik: apropos yes thats it10:58
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beerockxsare there packages for gcompmgr anywhere?10:58
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scifierUSUL:  0 upgraded, 0 installed10:59
Nomad411Is there a different wine for AMD64 ?10:59
bliss1_carthik: just wondering why my cpu is always running at 100%10:59
ompaul!tell Nomad411 about chroot10:59
ompaulNomad411, I believe its a lot of trouble10:59
Nomad411ahh.11:00
erUSULscifi: try again to install mad plugin11:00
arrickhey in bittorent what is a leacher?11:00
fyrestrtrbliss1_: top can tell you that11:00
Nomad411!tell chatboy about chroot11:00
chatboy!Broadcom11:00
ubotuI heard broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards11:00
fyrestrtrarrick: something that is downloading but not uploading (just like everywhere else)11:00
arrickok thanks11:00
linafyrestrtr, done, got a blue mplayer box w/ big > sign, but nothing happened when clicked11:01
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PwcrLinuxhello, pls check on my paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1262011:01
dan_Installed skype but when i click on the app it dont do anything11:01
bungle!xgl11:01
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/11:01
fyrestrtrlina: okay11:01
scifierUSUL:  same error11:01
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fyrestrtrwhat stream is it? paste the URL11:01
carthikbliss1_, use the command "top" to see what's using the cpu so much11:01
ompauldan_, open a terminal and type skpe - so then paste the output in paste.ubuntu-nl.org11:02
bliss1_fyrestrtr: thanks11:02
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mundihi all11:02
bliss1_carthik; I just did its a demon11:02
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tusharsharmatell me guys11:03
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carthikbliss1_, which one is it? you can kill it using it's pid $kill -9 pid11:03
tusharsharmawhat i use to play mp3 in ubuntu11:03
linafyrestrtr, http://www.live365.com/stations/lovesongsradio11:03
carthiktusharsharma, everytime you've asked that, someone has pointed you to the right wiki page :)11:03
mundii got a quest?? does anybody knows why firefox i loading so slow web pages ?? i have dhcp set up in net configuration ??11:03
freeone3000Hello... I haven't used ubuntu, trying to get X to work. Temporarily using it, comp sci lab. Are there any known problems with Xorg 6.8.2 on PowerPC Ubuntu Linux kernel 2.6.12?11:03
rhinovirusI just installed dapper, but I don't have permissions to read my NTFS partition (I can read it as root), this is the line in /etc/fstab: /dev/hda1       /windows     ntfs    user,umask=0222  0       011:04
ompaultusharsharma, once installed xmms totem just click on one11:04
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ompaulrhinovirus, go to channel #ubuntu+1 to talk about dapper and (/msg ubotu ntfs) to get the answer to your question :)11:04
bliss1_cartick: strange you may not know it but i have problems configreing it strange its useing 86% is called mixmaster11:04
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rhinovirusntfs    user,umask=0222  0       011:05
rhinovirus22:04 < ompaul> tusharsharma, once installed xmms totem just click on one11:05
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carthikbliss1_, sorry I have no experience with that11:05
FlannelKing!tell mundi about ipv611:05
rhinovirus22:04 < ompaul> rhinovirus, go to channel #ubuntu+1 to talk about dapper and (/msg ubotu ntfs) to11:05
rhinovirus                get the answer to your question :)11:05
rhinovirus22:04 < bliss1_> cartick: strange you may not know it but i have problems configreing it strange11:05
rhinovirus                 its useing 86% is called mixmaster11:05
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rhinovirusuh woops wrong key combo11:05
rhinovirussorry11:05
FlannelKingmundi: check your messages11:05
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trainstrokerwhen i have totem-xine running on my ubuntu a video will play and some streaming video will also play. on totem-gstreamer nothing plays. is there a way to fix it or should i just use totem-xine?11:05
scifierUSUL:  any ideas m8?11:06
bliss1_cartick ; PID  682711:06
shalei'm trying to migrate a number of our computers to thin clients using ubuntu & xdmcp.... can anyone recommend a good desktop publishing app under gnome?11:06
bliss1_ompaul: hi11:06
carthiktrainer, you may not have the gstreamer plugins. or maybe you can only have one of totem-xine and totem-gstreamer at one time11:06
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izmaelishow to combine multipart newsgroup messages in thunderbird?11:06
trainstrokerrhinovirus11:06
ompaulbliss1_, 7oC and cloudy11:07
PwcrLinuxhello, pls check on my paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1262011:07
bliss1_ompaul; but getting warmer11:07
Crazy6so when modules are loaded at bootup, does it not do a normal modprobe ?11:07
ompaulPwcrLinux, what caused that, now that I think to ask11:07
fyrestrtrlina: you need flash to make that work, its not a stream you can listen to in the player.11:07
Crazy6becasue I have this ipw3945 modules, which works fine with modprobe11:07
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Crazy6but doesnt work fine on bootup11:07
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linafyrestrtr, does it mean nothing I can do to make it work? or is there a way to enable flash?11:08
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_jeffhey guys11:08
scifihi guys, please read http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12624. got this error when trying to install gstreamer0.8-mad11:08
_jeffsuspect says hes sorry11:08
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motwi have a question about dapper beta - will i need to reinstall once dapper comes out, or will i be able to just upgrade from beta?11:09
_jeffand he doesnt want to be banned anymore11:09
PwcrLinuxompaul: the update notifier appeared on the taskbar and I go ahead to update my system, I checked the terminal while updating (small terminal box), I noticed some of errors or warning.., had you updated it and gets errors or warning?11:09
jeff303does anyone know what ubuntu package contains the "dos2unix" and/or "unix2dos" commands?11:09
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fyrestrtrlina: type sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla11:09
bimberishale: scribus is one11:09
carthikmotw, you can upgrade11:09
shalethank you bimberi11:09
shalewe'll check it out11:09
_jeffcan anybody unban 'suspect'?11:09
carthikjeff303, try searching in "name and description" in synaptic11:09
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ompaulPwcrLinux, no I have not noticed that error, are you using dapper?11:09
_jefffrom this channel?11:09
bimberishale: np :)11:09
sagalalHello all11:09
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motwcarthik, and it should definitely work?11:09
freeone3000So. I found something, through the miracle of grep. It can't "read the V_BIOS (5)" and there was "No DFP detected".11:10
ompaulPwcrLinux, if so restarting gnome might be in order11:10
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linafyrestrtr, done boss11:10
freeone3000What are the problems with those?11:10
jeff303carthik: tried that but got no results11:10
carthikmotw, yes it should. for the most. any problems you might have can be sorted out11:10
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jeff303carthik: which surprises me since they're fairly common utils11:10
ithielhi all11:10
motwcarthik, and how bout upgrading from breezy to the dapper beta? is that recommended? or a fresh install?11:10
PwcrLinuxompaul: no I am on the normal version of breezy. let me get which version of codenames..11:10
carthikjeff303, is it not there in the sysutils package?11:10
sagalalQuestion: How do you delete a printer driver in Breezy11:11
sagalal?11:11
sagalal:)11:11
carthikmotw, you can upgrade, but there might be some problems. try that and then if that fails install fresh? backup all you need to.11:11
scifihi guys, please read http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12624. got this error when trying to install gstreamer0.8-mad11:11
jeff303carthik: ah right you are, thanks11:11
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motwcarthik, thanks, i've been scared to do anything yet - don't want to lose anything11:11
_jeffwhos the admin of this channel/11:12
_jeff?11:12
Crazy6does anyone have ipw3945 working?11:12
lapatsoshello11:12
PwcrLinuxompaul: Yea, I already rebooted11:12
bungle!flumotion11:12
ubotubungle: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:12
carthikmotw, backup all that is precious in any case, even if you are not upgrading11:12
motwcarthik, will do, thanks for the help11:12
carthikompaul, sorry but jeff_ wants you to unban "suspect" :)11:13
apache2hey so I'm kinda new to the apt-respitory ---> is there any way I can setup certain packages with certain build options, like PHP with GD support?11:13
linafyrestrtr, ???11:13
lapatsosi am a new user ... first time in linux11:13
ompaulcarthik, i'll see why they were banned11:13
ompaulbrb11:13
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apache2or do I have to compile manually?11:13
scifihi guys, please read http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12624. got this error when trying to install gstreamer0.8-mad11:13
carthikapache2, you install php and install the package for enabling gd support in php11:13
freeone3000apache2: You say that like it's a bad thing. But modphp5-gd or something similar should be avlaible.11:14
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apache2freeone3000: alright sweet :)11:14
apache2I'm so used to the portage system11:14
arrickcarthik, is there micosoft frontpage extension support for apache2?11:14
PhoenixP3KHi, I'd like to know if there is a way to disable update notification for a specific package ?11:14
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carthikarrick, search in synaptic under "name and description" please11:15
freeone3000So. Any ideas why X doesn't work? I've even grepped through it myself, though for some reason, w3m isn't recognizing the google search bar, thus denying me of that resource.11:15
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freeone3000!ggl11:15
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, freeone300011:15
arrickthanks11:15
sagalalDetails: I installed some drivers for the Kyocera Mita 1010 Printer (that wasn't originally listed in the mountains of printers that are supported). I clicked on install driver and then on cancel. Then I clicked on New Printer again. Now The MITA printer is no longer in the list, and when I try to install the driver, it says "printer already installed". So I would like to manually delete the...11:15
sagalal...printer driver.11:15
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Bobrownikwhats the default music player in gnome?11:15
fyrestrtrlina: type that in a terminal, and hit enter to enable flash11:15
JowiBobrownik: rhythmbox11:15
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fyrestrtrlina: type --> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla <-- type that11:15
carthiksagalal, try deleting the printer and reinstalling it11:16
lapatsoshelp me ????11:16
bliss1_cartick: thanks killed it11:16
scificarthik: u genius pls read my pastbin  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1262411:16
Bobrownikyes , thank you , rythmbox.... are there any better apps or is this as good as it gets on linux?11:16
linafyrestrtr, I did n the last line was setting up flashplayer-mozilla (7.0.25-0.0) ...11:16
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sagalalCarthik: The printer isn't even installed. It is just the driver that is installed. But when I want to add a new printer, the newly installed driver doesn't appear in the list, although I cannot readd it11:16
sagalal*re-add11:16
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freeone3000lina: I like Mplayer and noatun.11:17
carthikscifi, try $sudo apt-get -f install    to fix the broken packages issue, and i'm just a normal user.11:17
PwcrLinuxompaul: I'm waiting :)11:17
freeone3000*Bobroownik11:17
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ompauljeff I have to find the ban - when where they banned11:17
fyrestrtrlina: that's it, you are done.11:17
freeone3000I blame the console...11:17
ompauland what is their ip now?11:17
fyrestrtryou have flash now, your radio station should work.11:17
linalemme try it11:17
dilyxAnyone here that knows what this error means when trying to start a windows game with Wine.. I get the following errors.. and a lot of them..: err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!11:17
carthiksagalal, hmm, try choosing the manually install driver option, instead of choosing from the list of drivers ?11:17
ompauljeff they can msg me hello - no promises11:17
patrick221how would i uninstall apache as i seem to be running both apache and apache211:17
apache2where are typical config files stored for various apps?11:17
carthik_jeff read what ompaul said above11:18
fyrestrtrdilyx: if the game works, you can ignore those11:18
carthikthanks ompaul :)11:18
dilyxbut the game doesent work :(11:18
_jeffok, thanks guys11:18
Bobrownikthanks free.. ill try those11:18
fyrestrtrdilyx: what game?11:18
dilyxalso if i try to start notpad.exe11:18
bliss1_carthik: I would like to set a few custom permission rules in /etc/udev/permissions.d/udev.permissions11:18
dilyxany game11:18
scificarthik: it says  "Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)"11:18
carthikbliss1_, sorry dude, but that seems beyond me :)11:18
ompaulPwcrLinux, I am not good with that, what you need to find is an "apt-get" and "pin" faq11:18
carthikscifi, that is because you have two of apt-get running (or synaptic and apt-get etc) close the other one(s)11:19
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linafyrestrtr... got the blue box, but not playing... I'm totally lost.. hiks hiks11:19
patrick221how would i uninstall apache as i seem to be running both apache and apache211:19
PwcrLinuxompaul: alright, I guess some ppls might get error or warning while updating the system..11:19
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fyrestrtrlina: blue box?11:19
bliss1_I would like to set a few custom permission rules in /etc/udev/permissions.d/udev.permissions11:19
carthikpatrick221, sudo apt-get --purge remove <package-name>11:19
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linafyrestrtr, yup, blue box... the mplayer11:20
fyrestrtrlina: wait a sec11:20
ompaulPwcrLinux, not usual unless you mix sources offical and unoffical11:20
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Sodiumhow can I create a shell script that can CD to a directory and run a program?11:20
gnomefreakompaul: !pinning if that is faq you ment11:20
gnomefreakmeant11:20
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linafyrestrtr, k, will wait... tia11:20
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gnomefreakSodium: cd <dir> <enter> whatever command you want to run once cd'ed11:21
sagalalCarthik: So I shouldn't do it this way:  Printer dialog -> (No printers installed) -> Open Add a New Printer dialog -> "Use another printer by specifying the port" + next -> Click on Kyocera -> Oh! The printer I JUST installed (in a previous cycle) is not here anymore -> Try clicking on install driver and install the same printer -> "Sorry Printer is already installed". How do you get to the...11:21
ploomSodium, you open a file, put the shell commands inside, make it executable and then run it as a shell script - how about that for a start?11:21
sagalal..."manual install" page11:21
sagalalor is it like hacking :)11:21
scificarthik: cudnt see anything else open. so closed re-opened terminal, but still get same error11:21
gnomefreakSodium: there are other ways to seperate commands but i cant remember off hand11:21
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PwcrLinuxompaul: how I get the current version of ubuntu?11:21
PhoenixP3KAnyone here using Firefox 1.5 ?11:21
arrickanyone: I found the libapache-mod-frontpage-mirfak in synaptic, but i am wanting to install it on a server with no gui, any help here?11:21
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carthikscifi, hmm, synaptic, or update-manager or some terminal has to be open :)11:22
Sodiumploom: I've already tried putting the commands in a file, save as .sh and make it executable, but nothing will happen11:22
linafreeone3000, wat is noatun? sry, noob here11:22
carthiksagalal, hmm, I have not a clue now.11:22
dj-fuarrick, apt-get install <package>11:22
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PwcrLinuxcarthik: look for error or warning in the small terminal, if you find it. you might get same as mines..11:23
carthikPwcrLinux, ??11:23
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arrickthanks dj-fu11:23
PwcrLinuxcarthik: did you get 4 updates on notification?11:23
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carthikPwcrLinux, you must be confusing me for someone else, I dont have any problems currently :)11:24
gnomefreakSodium: you might want to look at abs-guide in synaptic its called abs  theres alsoa  site to read it from but dont remember name of site11:24
fyrestrtrlina: I got your problem solved. The radio is streaming shoutcast. Do this.11:24
fyrestrtrlina: sudo apt-get install xmms11:24
PwcrLinuxcarthik: okay :)11:24
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freeone3000lina: KDE's media player.11:24
PhoenixP3KHow do you turn off update notification for firefox? I've got 1.5 but update manager wants me to upgrade to 1.0.8 from ubuntu11:24
freeone3000lina: Seriously, apt-cache search media player. FLLike, 500.11:25
PwcrLinuxPhoenixP3K: untick it11:25
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carthikPhoenixP3K, read the wiki page on how to install FF 1.5 the right way11:25
linafyrestrtr, done, lemme try it now11:25
carthik!tell PhoenixP3K about FF1.511:25
fyrestrtrlina: no wait.11:25
_jasonPhoenixP3K: just upgrade, it shouldn't affect your 1.5 install in /opt11:25
scificarthik: i will reboot, see if it helps11:26
fyrestrtrlina: when you click on the play button in the popup, it will ask you do you want to open this file or save it. SAVE THE FILE.11:26
ompaulPwcrLinux, 5.10 is the current version11:26
linafyrestrtr, ok...lemme try11:26
fyrestrtrlina: then open up xmms (Applications -> Sound and Video -> XMMS)11:26
freeone3000Okay. So. X. It can't find the DFP, and it can't read the V_BIOS...11:26
PhoenixP3Klets cross fingers11:26
freeone3000Fixes/explaination, anyone?11:26
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PwcrLinuxompaul: Yea, I browsed the System/about it's say Ubuntu 5.1011:27
_jasonPhoenixP3K: I did it about 3 hours ago by the way11:27
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sagalalIt's fine : I'm gonna go off and search for ppd files:)11:27
sagalalThanks :)11:27
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ompaulPwcrLinux, so you are up to date, the beta of the new system is called dapper and that has its own channel #ubuntu+111:28
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PwcrLinux_jason: did you get 4 updates? just all 4 installed and small terminal box show error or warning does it's affects on yours?11:28
PhoenixP3K_jason, yeah! It seems to still be 1.5, but does it mean that if I remove the firefox package from synaptic I'll still be ok?11:28
linafyrestrtr, I did, now it's prompting selection:/home/lina, what should I fill in there?11:28
HymnToLifePhoenixP3K> no you won't11:28
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HymnToLifeif I remember well, removing the Firefox package will remove GNOME11:28
PwcrLinuxompaul: yea, I have to wait till they released comes out11:29
fyrestrtrlina: nothing, just save the file anywhere, it doesn't matter where as long as you know how to get to it.11:29
fyrestrtrlina:  then, open up xmms11:29
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FysidikoHi. I've installed Firefox 1.5.2 from source, if I let the update thing update to FF 1.08 will it remove my compiled version?11:29
HymnToLifeFF 1.0.8 ??11:30
fyrestrtrlina: once its open, click on the blue eject icon (or, when xmms window is selected, hit L)11:30
HymnToLifenow that's a scoop11:30
FysidikoFirefox 1.0.811:30
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HymnToLifeI'm pretty sure it doesn't exist11:30
Fysidikoit definitely does11:30
fyrestrtrlina: are you already in xmms?11:30
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_jasonit does on ubuntu11:30
gnomefreak1.5.0.2 should not update to 1.0.8 they are not same nor is it update its a downgrade11:30
dilyxAnyone who has a good expertise about wine please contact me im getting desperate for help :P11:31
PhoenixP3KHymnToLife, ok so I'll leave it there then :p11:31
linafyrestrtr, I got a small x multimedia system with many buttons...11:31
fyrestrtrlina type /home/lina/Desktop/play.pls11:31
fyrestrtrlina: okay good.11:31
gnomefreakand the 1.0x are going out anyway that is the last release of the 1.0x series11:31
scificarthik: i have now rebooted and still get same error :*(((11:31
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fyrestrtrlina: click on it once, then hit L on your keyboard, or click the eject button on the x multimedia system.11:31
strat89just got my ubuntu cds in the mail!!! :)  and need a link  for a total noob to get started. Most importantly is how to get my dial-up connection going.11:31
FysidikoUbuntu needs FF 1.0.x to run though, doesn't it?11:31
FysidikoFor help files or something11:31
HymnToLifewhy the hell are they releasing new 1.0.x versions when 1.5 has been out for months ?11:31
DarkEDim trying to install dapper flight6 with the livecd11:31
fyrestrtrlina: once the window opens up, find the play.pls file that you downloaded from live365.com11:32
gnomefreakFysidiko: yes it has to stay on system for now11:32
fyrestrtr!wiki11:32
gnomefreakHymnToLife: its not same11:32
DarkEDi run live and it gets to the point where it would start x, but i get 'no screens found'11:32
FysidikoHymnToLife: Some people can't update, they still need security fixes11:32
carthikscifi try $sudo apt-get -f install (sudo gives it the privileges)11:32
Fysidikognomefreak: So can I safely let it update without it removing 1.5.2? Or should I mark that as a package not to upgrade?11:32
gnomefreakHymnToLife: i think it was a overhaul of the engine itsself that 1.5 changed11:32
fyrestrtrlina:  and click Play -- it will work (I'm listening to a radio station right now)11:32
gnomefreakFysidiko: no you cant11:32
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FysidikoThanks11:33
gnomefreakyou have to pin firefox not to get updates11:33
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FysidikoI will11:33
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HymnToLifegnomefreak> yep but I just can't get it, why people don't update11:33
HymnToLifeit runs MUCH better11:33
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gnomefreakHymnToLife: they are going to have to very very soon11:33
fyrestrtrHymnToLife: Linux is all about choice.11:33
linafyrestrtr, the popup windows has directories n files list, but both don't show play.pls11:33
scificarthik: thats the command i just ran again and still get permission denied error11:33
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carthikscifi, strange, dunno what to say to you...11:34
fyrestrtrlina: under Select: /home/lina, in the text box, type /home/lina/Desktop/play.pls11:34
carthikscifi, does $sudo apt-get update give you the same error as well?11:34
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HymnToLifeFysidiko> well yeah, if you want to keep your old Fiat 500 when you're offered a Ferrari, that 's your choice11:34
HymnToLifebut I still can't get it :p11:34
fyrestrtrlina:  and click Play11:34
gnomefreakscifi: sudo apt-get update or whatever your trying to run11:34
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glimphelo everyone11:35
_jeffhow are my ubuntuers doing?11:35
linafyrestrtr, yayyyyyyyyyyyy it's playing now..... thanks soooooooo muuuuch11:35
scificarthik/gnome: update works fine11:35
fyrestrtrlina: ah good, cause its 12:35 AM here, and I need to get some sleep :) enjoy your station.11:35
glimphow can i browse my workgroup in windows?11:35
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bliss1_ I would like to set a few custom permission rules in /etc/udev/permissions.d/udev.permissions11:36
linafyrestrtr... sorry keeping u so late, have a nice dream... see u soon here some other time thanks again11:36
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carthikscifi, hmm, well, then, what do we do now? you get the broken pacakges error, and the -f install is the only way I know of fixing it. There might be other ways to figure out a solution i don't know of11:36
tusharsharmahelp me11:36
gnomefreak!helpme11:36
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.11:36
tusharsharmai just d/l new firefox11:36
tusharsharmahow to open11:36
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gnomefreakubotu tell tusharsharma about ff1.511:37
scificarthik: there is no other mp3 package i cud install?11:37
tusharsharmaone error came archive not supported11:37
freeone3000Alrighty. I'll assume that... you guys have no clue?11:37
HymnToLifedownload it again I guess11:37
gnomefreaktusharsharma: the link in your pm will show you how to install it11:37
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carthikscifi, you use breezy right? (just checking)11:38
tusharsharmabut archive not supported11:38
glimpi mean my network in windows i installed samba how can i see the workgroup11:38
tusharsharmawhen i try to open it11:38
tusharsharmathat folder11:38
scificarthik, yes11:38
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gnomefreaktusharsharma: open the link ubotu sent you in pm11:38
carthiktusharsharma, dude, thre is a right way to install firefox 1.5 and the wiki page will tell you just that better than anyone here can. so please read the link11:38
gnomefreakread it please11:38
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gnomefreak:X11:38
_jeffompaul: hey man are you there?11:39
linafreeone3000, sorry I was so occupied w/ my prob, now it's good, well, I don't have kde, only gnome11:39
carthikscifi, hmm, try $sudo apt-get --purge remove <package-name> for the package that you tried to install and then try installing it again, maybe it will work this time around11:39
_jeffkde is sexy11:39
_jeff#kubuntu11:39
scificarthik: Wait!!! i had extra $ in front of fix broken packages command, ran it again and it works, very sorry about that11:39
carthikscifi, oh!11:39
_jefflol11:39
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ompaul_jeff, he has messaged me11:39
carthikscifi, okay now try installing whatever you were trying to install in the first place11:39
bunglekde 3.5 is nice11:40
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linayup, I read bout it, but I'm too noob to try anything, not yet11:40
scificarthik:  but it didnt do nething, 0 upgrades, etc,.....ok will try again11:40
_jeffompaul: ok, he just asked me to see if ur there. he misses you guys :(11:40
TrentDoes anyone know the online repositories for ubuntu so I can download them on my windows machine?11:40
scificarthik:  omg same error when installing gstreamer :*(11:40
carthikTrent, packages.ubuntu.com11:41
thorreok, i now have downloaded the 6.06 beta live cd, is there a way to install from that cd? or is it "just" a live-cd?11:41
TrentThanks.11:41
carthikscifi, hmm, well, try installing the gstreamer0.8-mad plugin which is all you need for mp3s11:41
FysidikoJust live AFAIK11:41
scificarthik: i mean the unmet dependecies error11:41
carthikscifi, or try searching using the error message on google.11:41
scificarthik: yes thats all i am trying to install in the 1st place11:41
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DarkEDdoes anyone know how to fix the 'no screens found' error?11:42
gnomefreak!mp311:42
ubotump3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:42
beerockxsanyone knowledgeable about xcompmgr?11:42
carthikscifi, okay, well then widen the net, try install gstreamer0.8-plugins :)11:42
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gnomefreakscrew_laca: you need multiverse enabled iirc the site ubotu posted will tell you11:42
gnomefreaknot screw_laca  i meant scifi11:43
bliss1_nickrud: hi is your office so big that you would no problems with a herd of wilderbeast running through it11:43
carthikscifi, gnomefreak is right, enable multiverse if it is not already enabled, just like you enabled universe11:43
efwisanyone here familiar with kernel panics??? I just compiled my own and now I am getting a kernel panic11:43
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enycefwis: something like.. Canniot mount root filesystem ?11:43
nickrudbliss1_, I have a sledgehammer, I'm good :)11:43
efwis [17179569.864000] kernel panic- not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unkown-block (0,0)[1719569.864000] 11:43
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efwisyeah11:43
enycefwis: yes... it hasnt loaded the right drivers/modules to find your hardidks/whatever which has the root (/) filesystem on it11:44
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linaa noob question, since there're many instructions I was taught here I want to save, do I need to do something or it will automatically saved when I close this chat? Anyone, pls answer, tia.11:44
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Talldave2002can anyone help. i am trying to let a win XP box connect through my ubuntu system. the Lan connection worked when the win box was connected to the net, not I can see shared folders on the XP box from ubuntu, but XP box cannot connect to net or browse shared folders, the network connection shows "limited or no connection"11:44
scificarthik: got a load of unment dependecies for gstreamer plugins....ok will see if i havent enabled multiverse11:44
gnomefreaklina: i would copy and paste them to text doc11:44
garminarlina, if youre in xchat, hit window -> save text11:45
scificarthik: how do i know if universe is enabled? :P11:45
gnomefreaki dont know of a chat client that logs convos without you setting it to11:45
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scifi!universe11:45
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource11:45
linagnomefreak, thanks for doing it for me, then?11:45
efwissome windows clients do11:45
linagarminar, I'll try11:45
bliss1_if i kill -9 then PID will demon start at bootup again11:45
gnomefreaknope sorry got enough to do here11:45
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efwisenyc: how do I figure out what could be causing the issue???11:46
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carthiklina, if you are using xchat, why dont you save it as garminar said above? or set settings->preferences->logging to your desire11:46
enycefwis: well you probably hacenvt compile in the right options in order to support your hard disk controller(s)11:46
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enycefwis: or... you havent put the correct   root=?? boot option on your kernel boot commandline11:46
Fysidikolina: what chat program are you using?11:46
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phoulAnyone know how to get audacious for ubuntu?11:47
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linacarthik, I did, and seemed it worked.... it's already here... thanks a lot all11:47
TrentHow should *.deb files be ran?11:47
phoul(might have spelt the app name wrong)11:47
LogicalDashI'm looking for a way to make my computer chime at me every half-hour, any suggestions?11:47
|lostbyte|What does k6 identify ?11:47
pat_Konversation logs by default to ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs11:47
freeone3000Trent: dpkg.11:47
linuxgeekeryTrent, dpkg11:47
|lostbyte|like mplayer-k6 or mencoder-k6.. ?11:47
carthikphoul, there is not audacious package in ubuntu yet11:47
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Trentfreeone3000, any params?11:47
gnomefreak[C] hris: your arch11:47
gnomefreakdamn11:47
freeone3000Trent: man dpkg for them.11:47
phoulis it possible to get one carthik11:47
phoul?11:47
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gnomefreak|lostbyte|: your arch11:47
Trentfreeone3000, I meant what I should have on by default.11:48
linuxgeekeryphoul, might be on the audacious website11:48
efwisit was working fine last time I did it, i put a new hdd in and had to reinstall Ubuntu.11:48
phoullike im sure somone uses it on ubuntu11:48
phoul*looks*11:48
TrentOr can I just do "dpkg *.deb"11:48
linaoh.... but I didn't get the whole session since I logged in?11:48
carthikTrent, you probably can install whatever you are trying to install from the ubuntu repositories... other debs might break your system11:48
gnomefreakif you are using a k6 kernel than you want mplayer-k611:48
|lostbyte|gnomefreak: and k6 is ?11:48
TrentAlrioght11:48
Trentbrb11:48
Fysidikophoul: what architecture are you on?11:48
freeone3000Trent: That's what the man page is for. Look for the -i flag.11:48
linaI'm using x chat11:48
carthikphoul, search for ubuntu debs for audacious11:48
gnomefreak|lostbyte|: 64bit kernel11:48
|lostbyte|gnomefreak: i am on a i686 arch.11:48
|lostbyte|gnomefreak: ahh ! ok11:48
gnomefreakk7= 64bit kernel11:48
Trentfreeone3000, I'm not on ubuntu, that's why i'm asking.11:48
Trent=)11:48
Trentbrb11:49
gnomefreak|lostbyte|: than you want mplayer-68611:49
scificarthik / gnome: i already had community maintained repos ticked and set to universe and non-free set too muiltiverse, do i also need the officially supported repos ticked??11:49
carthikgnomefreak, k6 is the amd k6 processor, which is not the 64 bit processor :)11:49
|lostbyte|gnomefreak: ok ..11:49
gnomefreak|lostbyte|: if thats what uname -r says11:49
gnomefreakcarthik: oops11:49
_jeff!ping11:49
ubotupong11:49
gnomefreakk7 is still 64bit right?11:49
|lostbyte|gnomefreak: but mencoder does'nt have a mencoder-686 ? only a 586 .. !!11:49
Fysidikophoul: see http://audacious-media-player.org/Downloads11:49
beastywho is _jeff ?11:49
Talldave2002anyone help with sharing internet connection with win XP box?11:50
carthikscifi,  well, you have to have univ and multiverse - what you are saying sounds unfamiliar to me since I just edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file directly11:50
Fysidikophoul: It has repos for it on Ubuntu11:50
gnomefreak|lostbyte|: i dont think mplayer-686 and mplayer-586 is gonna make a difference but im really not to sure on that11:50
|lostbyte|gnomefreak: yup that was uname says.. so why is'nt there a 686 for mencoder ?11:50
_jeffbeasty: uhm11:50
enycgnomefreak: k8 = amd64 64bit kernel...  k7 = amd-athlon (32bit!!)11:50
_jeffbeasty: im a dude11:50
beasty_jeff: just looking for new friends :p11:50
carthik|lostbyte|, why dont you use the -386 version, which will work just fine for you?11:50
scifimy brains gonna explode or implode :x11:50
_jeffbeasty: LOL OK11:50
gnomefreakthan why do people running 64bit install the k kernels?11:50
|lostbyte|gnomefreak: Ok ! so the arch in a package identifies that the package was built on a i586 or etc.. arch, am i righ ?11:51
enycthey install the _k8_ kerel11:51
gnomefreakyes11:51
beasty_jeff: maybe you are that jeff that lost his wallet in my car11:51
beasty:p11:51
enycthe _k7_ is another matter entirely11:51
_jeffbeasty: AHEM* please forgive the caps11:51
beastynp11:51
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gnomefreakk8 was in breezy?11:51
carthikscifi, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to the pastebin and we'll make it not explode/implod11:51
linagnomefreak, did u get it? I mean the chat file, I saved it myself but only got some, mostly the latest part, need the whole session since I logged in, did u manage to get it?11:51
enycgnomefreak: yes.. breezy has amd64 release11:51
|lostbyte|carthik: i already installed 568, why is there a problem with the higher arch's ?11:51
gnomefreaklina: no how would i get it?11:51
carthik|lostbyte|, no there is not.11:51
freeone3000Hmm, odd. Anything special I have to do other than install gcc and g++ (with depends) for a working C++ build environ?11:51
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carthikfreeone3000, install the build-essential package11:52
mloweok, where do i file a bug, xterm isnt listed in update-alternatives11:52
|lostbyte|carthik: ok ! nice to know. tx11:52
linagnomefreak... dunno, thought u might be here a while, if not I'm sorry, thx anyway11:52
gnomefreak!bugs11:52
bliss1_carthik : if i kill -9 then PID number will it kill demon for good, or will it start at reboot11:52
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gnomefreaklina: i cant scroll too far11:52
|lostbyte|Ok ! so the arch in a package identifies that the package was built on a i586 or etc.. arch, am i righ ?11:52
gnomefreak!bug11:52
ubotubugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs11:52
freeone3000carthik: Thanks.11:52
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gnomefreak^^^ bug reporting11:52
mlowegnomefreak, ty11:53
linagnomefreak... neither can I... lol11:53
gnomefreakyw11:53
carthikbliss1_, depends on whether the daemon is scheduled to start at bootup11:53
phoulokay to install from source I dont remember 100% is it.... makeconfig && make && sudo make install?11:53
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carthikbliss1_, use "bum" (boot up manager) to find out if it is scheduled so11:53
_jasonubotu: tell phoul about compile11:53
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bliss1_carthik: ok thanks i will check11:53
Dutchyhas anyone gotten this error before while printing? Printing: Unable to connect to SAMBA host, will retry in 60 seconds...ERROR:  Connection failed with error NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED11:53
carthikphoul, read the INSTALL or README files - it varies from thing to thing11:53
gnomefreakphoul: /.configure than make than make install or better install check install than run checkinstall11:53
scificarthik : done - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1262911:54
linuxgeekerygnomefreak, shouldn't it be ./configure?11:54
Dutchyim trying to print on a hp psc1200 connected to an XP box11:54
gnomefreakyeah that too11:54
gnomefreak:)11:54
linawell, get I will just seek 4 fyrestrtr to repeat everything in case needed... lol... tired now... bye e111:54
carthik|lostbyte|, it identifies what arch it will work on/was built for/ was optimised for.11:54
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psquared89Dutchy what kind of printer are you using (and which drivers / where from)11:55
linuxgeekeryinteresting. kismet slows down my lappy by about 60%11:55
gooniequick question.... can I install xgl on Breezy ?11:55
gnomefreakno goonie11:55
carthikgoonie, quick answewr - probably not11:55
Null_8how do I set up xorg.conf to use just standard VGA drivers?11:55
gooniethx11:55
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Dutchyhp psc1200series, hpijs driver11:55
gnomefreakxgl will not work on xorg lower than 7.0 if it does it will run like crap11:56
gnomefreaknot like it doesnt now :(11:56
carthikNull_8, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:56
|lostbyte|carthik: ok :)11:56
IceToxWhat ssh server is mainly used in ubuntu, and how do I start this server in terminal?11:56
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Dutchypsquared89, NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED does this error have anything to do with not being able to log on to the XP machine, or does it denote something else11:56
Null_8thanks11:56
gnomefreaksudo apt-get install ssh-server11:56
MathmanIceTox: openssh, like any other distro11:56
scificarthik: u see my pastebin link?11:57
IceToxyah ok.. and is there any special command to start it in ubuntu?11:57
carthikIceTox, openssh-server to start use /etc/init.d/ssh start (maybe sshd start) install the server first, of course11:57
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gnomefreakscifi: did you paste the link?11:57
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scifiyes11:57
scificarthik : done - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1262911:57
PwcrLinuxcya later11:57
gnomefreakIceTox: same as everyother distro11:57
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malv_any big issues with dapper drake atm?11:57
grap3<grap3> Guys, I've got a problem with my fresh Ubuntu install. X won't load and says that there are no display devices. Why is it doing that?11:57
freeone3000grap3: Because someone set up x wrong...11:58
gnomefreakmalv_: yeah its not stable and can break tomorrow11:58
_jasonmalv_: nope, not really.  I'm running it now, but I did stumble a little during the install11:58
scifignomefreak:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1262911:58
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carthikscifi, "deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse" in the file means that you have universe and multiverse enabled. so do a $sudo apt-get update11:58
grap3well how do I set it up properly? during the installation I'm only asked for a resolution11:58
grap3Nothing else graphically related11:58
malv_ok thanks.11:58
Dutchyperhaps I need to configure samba first, i figured it was configured correct because I was able to 'see' the printer on the windows pc11:59
carthikscifi, and you are all set to install packages from multiverse and universe. Now if you just added multiverse, try the $sudo apt-get -f install trick to fix probs11:59
freeone3000Btw guys, I found a bug with the Xorg installer.11:59
ahmenigrap3: you could try backing up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and running X -configure11:59
gnomefreakscifi: you need to add a # to the very first line and take the # away from the rest that start with deb and add multiverse after word universe on the deb lines11:59
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gnomefreakfreeone3000: define Xorg installer11:59
gnomefreakapt installs Xorg12:00

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