[12:00] <Get_A_Fix> hello
[12:00] <scifi> for simplicity, i have just created "Downloads", "Movies" and "Music" folders straight into home directory, is that ok/how most people do it in ubuntu?
[12:00] <Zarephath> ltR20: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12569
[12:01] <Warbo> scifi: If you look at the hidden folders in your home then there will be a firefox one (not sure what it's called, maybe something mozilla) It seems like you have backed up this, so if you screw your settings up later then just replace this hidden folder with that folder you just moved. That's how to restore your backup
[12:01] <Warbo> Get_A_Fix: Hello
[12:01] <Get_A_Fix> good day, is there a way to bypass, avoid the log in screen in Breezy
[12:02] <scifi> warbo: yeh part of the update process moves the old firefox into a firefox 1.07 backup folder, i put the ffsettings folder in there
[12:02] <Warbo> scifi: I have a "Files" folder just because I keep my personal files on a seperate partition which I like to share between installations (so I don't want it full of the hidden "dot files" from my home, and I mount the partition on /home/chris/Files
[12:02] <Get_A_Fix> we are setting up an internet cafe and don't want the customers to have to log in, this possible,
[12:03] <Warbo> Get_A_Fix: If you leave your computers on and take away the menus (so they can't log out) then that should work
[12:03] <scifi> warbo: fair enuff, but my way is ok / reasonable ?
[12:04] <moodowama> ello all, having some trouble with ubuntu as follows: have installed xp on an empty partition, which erased grub. now dapper is lost and ubuntu rescue mode (floght5 cd) does NOT see any partitions. suggestions?
[12:04] <Warbo> scifi: Sure it is, It's just that I hoard files and I regularly get swamped with folders full of thousands of files, so this time (my hard drive failed, so now I'm on Dapper) I've decided to try and start as complex as possible so that my folders won't get too full )individually)
[12:05] <scifi> i have heard it mentioned that after installing breezy for the 1st time it is best to update and upgrade repositories, if this is true, how do i go about it?
[12:05] <scifi> warbo: hehe ok
[12:05] <Get_A_Fix> Warbo: thanks, we'll give that a go. So the initial log in cannot be circumvented
[12:05] <Warbo> scifi: You should update and upgrade your packages, but not your repositories, although your will probably want to enable Universe and Multiverse
[12:06] <felipe__>  Hi there, I use ubuntu 5.10 and installed ruby from the repos. Now I'm learning Rails and I need to update to ruby 1.8.4 because I have 1.8.3. Can I do this from the repos?
[12:06] <Warbo> Get_A_Fix: Yes it can. You can choose whether to log a user in straight away (the login screen doesn't appear) or to wait a few seconds
[12:06] <beerockxs> felipe__, maybe from backports, not sure
[12:06] <scifi> Warbo: yeh sorry meant packages, already enabled multi/universe. how do i go about updating packages?
[12:07] <FlannelKing> scifi: through what? synaptic? apt?
[12:07] <mianik> what would be recomended for a slow computer a 233, gnome or kde?
[12:07] <scifi> Flannelking: which evers best way :)
[12:07] <dooglus> neither really
[12:07] <Warbo> Get_A_Fix: I set my dad's system up to skip the login screen, but now I've made it wait 10 seconds to give me a chance to log in if I want (as soon as you press a key the timer goes up to 30 secs)
[12:07] <FlannelKing> mianik: [black|flux] box
[12:07] <dooglus> mianik: use something lighter, I'd suggest fluxbox or xfce4
[12:08] <Warbo> scifi: System>Admin>Synaptic Reload then Mark all upgrades then apply
[12:08] <mianik> FlannelKing: dooglus thanx, what about the new one, um,, whats it called
[12:08] <FlannelKing> scifi: alright, we'll use synaptic, just a few buttons.  Open synaptic, click "reload" then click ... oh, what's the text. it's the one next to it.
[12:08] <dooglus> mianik: you mean xubuntu?
[12:08] <mianik> dooglus: yes
[12:08] <FlannelKing> right, mark all upgrades.  then hit smart upgrade. and then apply.
[12:08] <moodowama> repeating myself: ello all, having some trouble with ubuntu as follows: have installed xp on an empty partition, which erased grub. now dapper is lost and ubuntu rescue mode (floght5 cd) does NOT see any partitions. suggestions? partition tables (?) seem to be all messed up but xp works fine and sees all non linux partitions
[12:08] <dooglus> mianik: that's XFCE4
[12:08] <FlannelKing> mianik: xubuntu is xfce
[12:09] <mianik> dooglus: FlannelKing  ahh ok , thanx :)
[12:09] <Get_A_Fix> Warbo: thanks again - Duh - I don't know why but I didn't even see the Login Screen Setup option before. LOL.. thanks bunches
[12:10] <Warbo> Get_A_Fix: np
[12:10] <scifi> warbo/flannel: did reload and mark all upgrades, but apply is blanked out
[12:10] <Warbo> scifi: Then you are up to date :)
[12:10] <trainstroker> warbo: it worked after some fiddling
[12:10] <scifi> o right lol, thought thered be loads :P
[12:11] <Warbo> trainstroker: Then you can help others who have this problem (I'm not sure of the exact steps to follow, as I haven't started from scratch with a dualboot before)
[12:12] <Kr4t05> !printing
[12:12] <ubotu> methinks printing is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[12:12] <Warbo> scifi: If there are any packages with stars next to them then they are upgradable (i think) but you can check the columns intalled version and newest version
[12:12] <trainstroker> woot another problem
[12:12] <cadkins> i have a question about the new ATI drivers, will they work well enough for gaming purposes with my x800?
[12:13] <trainstroker> when i play a specific avi, i cannot see any video ... i can see some kind of blurry radar thingy
[12:13] <GTX> Is there anyone here which is kind enough to see why my iptables configuration ( http://www.proupload.com/uploads/1145521713.txt ) isn't allowing me to send or receive emails to the internet or localy :\
[12:13] <moodowama> would precreating an empty partition with acronis disk director for example make ubuntu dapper recognize it (already tried resizing partitions to get m recognized but no luck)?
[12:13] <Warbo> trainstroker: That is a visualisation (What A Goom), so it doesn't understand the codec
[12:13] <ricodued> ..Is there some trick to enabling round corners on window borders? Or are screenshots of these themes lying to me?
[12:13] <scifi> warbo: thx they all match latest version. cud u point me to that restrictedformats site i wanna do the flash for mozilla install now
[12:13] <Warbo> trainstroker: Maybe try VLC
[12:14] <scifi> warbo: i will add all these guide sites to bookmarks so not to keep bothering u in future :)
[12:14] <trainstroker> what is vlc? ill try mplayer
[12:14] <Warbo> scifi: Errr. I don't know ubotu's commands
[12:14] <scifi> !restricted
[12:14] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:14] <scifi> :)
[12:15] <ENE|Toxic> Is it necessary with nvidia-glx-legacy drivers for Geforce2 Mx100 cards ? (The legacy-driver is incompatible with my X version)
[12:15] <Warbo> trainstroker: VLC is Video LAN Client. It uses it's own player engine, basically there is no point trying it in loads of players if they all use the Xine engine
[12:15] <felipe__> !backports
[12:15] <ubotu> [backports]  Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[12:16] <scifi> hmmm cant get my updated firefox to pickup links from x-chat ^^
[12:16] <Rhyddin> yep
[12:16] <revartj> somebody edit php???
[12:16] <FlannelKing> scifi: you have to change preferred-browser or, whatever that script is called
[12:16] <Warbo> moodowama: Don't know. (Why isn't that an option?)
[12:16] <spine> how can i change apache permissions to execute VLC with PHP, i tried this with no luck
[12:16] <spine> <?php
[12:16] <spine> system("(/usr/bin/vlc /home/spine/video --intf=http --http-host 192.168.1.100:4358 --fullscreen) >nul");
[12:18] <moodowama> Warbo: thx for confirming
[12:19] <moodowama> btw: of importance for opera users, vlc moz plugin makes opera segfault
[12:19] <cadkins> anyone kno anything about the new ati drivers?
[12:20] <revartj> somebody where i can find the editor php, equal that dreamwever in windows
[12:20] <revartj> ????
[12:20] <Zarephath> I am trying to figure out how to extract pics that are .svgz? My reading claims that it is a gzipped file..however gzip -d filename, or gunip filename says it doesn't understand the extension...inkscape can view it..but I can't save it as .png or .jpg
[12:20] <ltR20> when i do glxgears i get this extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:20] <felipe__> beerockxs, No, I added the backport and I don't see any new packages. The odd thing is that in the repos its says that it is ruby 1.8.2 and it is not
[12:20] <moodowama> btw2: also of importance for opera users, the latest builds can use moz mplayer plugin
[12:20] <mjr> *sigh* deciding on hardware is rough; how's the support for via k8t890 chipset for amd64 these days, LAN/audio/etc-wise?
[12:20] <moodowama> too bad i'm stuck in cp :(
[12:21] <beerockxs> felipe__, then you'll have to install it manually, or make a request on the backports forum
[12:21] <ubu_new> hay
[12:21] <Warbo> Zarephath: Maybe rename (or mv) it to .svg.gz? That is a horrible fix, but it may work (and if it does then someone ought to be shot)
[12:21] <moodowama> *xp
[12:21] <jadaz87> hello i was wondering where i can change the default background manually and not through System>>Preferences>>Backgrounds
[12:21] <revartj> help???
[12:21] <ubu_new> I am working with the live cd and updated the screen driver (dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) but now it writes me fatel server error
[12:22] <ubu_new> server is already active for display 0
[12:22] <beerockxs> jadaz87, the file is in /usr/share/backgrounds
[12:22] <Warbo> jadaz87: I think the only command line ways are for the "actual" background, ie. X's root window, not Nautilus's backdrop
[12:22] <beerockxs> replacing that should work, i think, but i don't recommend it
[12:22] <ubu_new> how can I make the x work now?
[12:22] <simonpca> ++
[12:23] <jadaz87> beerockxs WArbo there is not way to manual go in a file and replace the default backgrounds path to another one?
[12:23] <scifi> !mozilla
[12:23] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, scifi
[12:23] <beerockxs> jadaz87, i don't think so, I think the background is saved in the gconf database
[12:23] <Warbo> jadaz87: In that case it would be somewhere in all of the XML in ~/.gnome2
[12:23] <scifi> !firefox
[12:24] <ubu_new> is there any way to turn of the server and make it load again on live cd?
[12:24] <beerockxs> ubu_new, tried switching to a console and doing sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart?
[12:25] <ubu_new> beerockxs, it is live cd - so to do what you said?
[12:25] <arrick> hey has anyone in here used afterstep?
[12:25] <beerockxs> ubu_new, i don't know if it works in a live cd, it's worth a shot, though
[12:25] <jadaz87> beerockxs Warbo i was also wondering where the properties for the gnomepanels are like color ...?
[12:25] <trainstroker> i installed a packet (aviplayer) from synaptic package manager. how do i run it?
[12:25] <graveson> how do i get my keyboard shorcuts to work again . alt-ctrl-f1 ... etc has just stopped working
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[12:25] <arrick> Ban Heta
[12:26] <revartj> how can i programming in php since linux???
[12:26] <moodowama> gparted or qtparted livecd??? have to create an empty partition the ubuntu installer can see. what's the difference between the two?
[12:26] <scifi> flannel: cant find that script anywhere man ^^
[12:26] <Warbo> jadaz87: I think there ARE ways to override the panel's colours, but mainly it's the theme
[12:26] <ltR20> how do i show FPS IN GLXGEARS
[12:26] <arrick> how do these bots keep getting in?
[12:26] <ltR20> glxgears --showfps ??
[12:26] <Mathman> ltR20: run it from the command line.
[12:26] <trainstroker> i installed a packet (aviplayer) from synaptic package manager. how do i run it?
[12:26] <ltR20> what's the command?
[12:26] <ltR20> glxgears ? it doesnt output my fps
[12:26] <Mathman> ltR20: always does when I run it.
[12:27] <ubu_new> beerockxs, thanks!
[12:27] <ltR20> you just put "glxgears"
[12:27] <Mathman> ltR20: yep
[12:27] <jadaz87> WArbo i did it but i am doing a livecd and i need to manual edit the configurationn file for them so it will come up blue and have the panels in certain positions by default
[12:27] <ltR20> ya doesn't display!
[12:27] <Mathman> ltR20: or maybe you need to press space bar once in a while
[12:27] <graveson> what does this error mean : xchat-text: Depends: xchat-common (= 2.4.4-0ubuntu5) but 2.6.0-0ubuntu1~breezy1 is to be installed
[12:27] <Mathman> ltR20: and you're running it from the command line right?  and you're looking there for the output?
[12:28] <Warbo> jadaz87: The /etc/skel files are default configs. That's all I can say really (I have made a few Live CDs before, but KNOPPIX based, none Ubuntu based)
[12:28] <Mathman> ltR20: is that a no?
[12:28] <felipe__> beerockxs, I had breezy installed in another computer and it worked fine....
[12:29] <binky> @Mathman: It means you should look for a newer version of XChat
[12:29] <scifi> anyone know the script to get mozilla to pickup html links in x-chat?
[12:29] <nickrud> jadaz87, you probably are looking for gconftool-2 , it allows manipulation of the gconf database from the command line
[12:29] <beerockxs> felipe__, I have no idea, sorry
[12:29] <beerockxs> scifi, set it as the default browser
[12:29] <Mathman> binky: I have the newest version they make for aqua.
[12:29] <ltR20> no it doesn't work
[12:29] <ltR20> its a bug in breezy
[12:29] <ltR20> i checked
[12:30] <scifi> beerockxs: it is
[12:30] <binky> aqua? mac?
[12:30] <Mathman> binky: yep.
[12:30] <FlannelKing> scifi: yes, you can.  You just have to set it up in xchat
[12:30] <binky> oh sorry, I don't have one :)
[12:30] <Mathman> binky: I'm just messing with ya.  you're confusing me with someone else here.
[12:31] <trainstroker> i installed a packet (aviplayer) from synaptic package manager. how do i run it?
[12:31] <binky> ah
[12:31] <beerockxs> trainstroker, run aviplayer from a console?
[12:31] <Warbo> trainstroker: Right click it in synaptic and go on properties. In installed files look for anything in "/usr/bin"
[12:31] <graveson> i am receiving numerous gpg errors can some please help me get rid of these
[12:32] <beerockxs> graveson, when are you receiving them?
[12:32] <Mathman> get some ecc memory?
[12:32] <MisterN> n8
[12:32] <graveson> beerockxs:when running sudo apt-get update
[12:33] <beerockxs> graveson, do you have custom entries in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[12:33] <duelboot> okay that HAD to be the dummest thing...I'm not a bot and I AM registered!
[12:33] <duelboot> dumbest
[12:33] <trainstroker> thank warbo
[12:33] <arrick> evening duelboot
[12:34] <graveson> beerockxs: i used to have but now i only have the universe and multiverse. i will paste a llink on pastebin for you
[12:34] <bigfoot1> where are the pics in "desktop wallpaper" stored?
[12:34] <beerockxs> bigbootay, the default ones are in /usr/share/backgrounds
[12:34] <scifi> flannelking: i suspect its soemthing i need to change in advanced>url handlers... but i dont know exactly
[12:34] <arrick> haha, not today duelboot
[12:34] <bigbootay> beerockxs, thanks :)
[12:35] <LinuxJones> anybody know how to extract multiple (spanned) rar archives, the -x switch only extracts the first file in the archive ?
[12:35] <arrick> duelboot, I have been on for 48 hours straight working on my server, check this out
[12:35] <duelboot> holy cow arrick
[12:35] <duelboot> think I have your address...lemme check
[12:35] <arrick> this one is different
[12:36] <duelboot> wow arrick, from the homepage, it's changed tremendously...and in a good way
[12:36] <graveson> beerockxs: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12571
[12:36] <arrick> yeah
[12:37] <beerockxs> that looks fine graveson, what are the errors you are getting?
[12:38] <graveson> beerockxs: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12572
[12:38] <Jinkguns> Today marks the first day that I have ever heard "linux" mentioned in a commercial.
[12:39] <Jinkguns> I need to sit here a moment and just take it all in.
[12:39] <binky> @LinuxJones Select the first or last rar in nautilus of the first archive, and then select the second while holding the Ctrl key
[12:39] <Warbo> Jinkguns: Have a look on Google Video and YouTube. I found some good ones by (shock horror) RedHat
[12:39] <beerockxs> graveson, that does not appear to be an error on your side, looks like something's wrong with the ubuntu repository
[12:39] <duelboot> FWIW I FAILED miserably at trying to upgrade to dapper...back to breezy...thank goodness for backups!
[12:40] <duelboot> and no I won't talk about it
[12:40] <Jinkguns> Warbo, cool, but this was on normal tv. ;)
[12:40] <Jinkguns> like, my tv.
[12:41] <Warbo> Jinkguns: What country? (and if UK, what channel)
[12:41] <Jinkguns> I doubt the red hat commercial aired for very long or in more then a few places.
[12:41] <LinuxJones> binky: it says it can't open the archive if I select more than one
[12:41] <Jinkguns> United States, History Channel, it was a commercial for Dell Servers. I was like, that was a weird word, what did he say? Lin-ux? Linux? omg.
[12:41] <Jinkguns> ;)
[12:42] <graveson> beerockxs: ok tnx
[12:42] <Warbo> Jinkguns: Yeah, always with the servers. Noone wants to take on the desktop :(
[12:42] <beerockxs> graveson, np
[12:42] <binky> Whay version of ubuntu?
[12:43] <Jinkguns> Well, I tried doing a ubuntu laptop today, ndiswrapper worked all for 20 minutes before the machine locked up and since I've been unable to even scan a wireless network.
[12:43] <newbie33> I want to ask how to change my MAC permanently
[12:43] <binky> File roller in 2.8 2.10 did that for "usability"
[12:43] <newbie33> I changing it with ifconfig
[12:43] <newbie33> but after reboot it backs
[12:43] <Mortuis> I have a command line question.  I want to record the results of "cat filename | grep cats" into a file.  How do I do this?
[12:43] <Warbo> Jinkguns: Why do people use windoze drivers with ndiswrapper and expect stability? :)
[12:44] <duelboot> Warbo, cuz it's possible!
[12:44] <rukuartic> Warbo: Cuz thats the only way they can
[12:44] <Warbo> Mortuis: Add > file at the end
[12:44] <Mortuis> Warbo: Thank you
[12:44] <Jinkguns> Well, I really didn't get a choice, it's a old laptop, compaq, been through iraq sandstorms and a 3 alarm fire. Broadcom wireless. :/
[12:44] <duelboot> Warbo, I haven't had any issues with windows driver and ndiswrapper
[12:44] <rukuartic> neither have I
[12:45] <trainstroker> does anyone have a zen vision?
[12:45] <Jinkguns> The problem is, it works for awhile, then suddenly it won't detect my network anymore
[12:45] <Warbo> duelboot: Was sort of a joke, "Why isn't Linux ready for the desktop?" "Because the Windows drivers crash it"
[12:46] <duelboot> Warbo, not funny...hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[12:46] <binky> Does anyone here have a Minolta DiMage camera working in breezy or dapper WITH a memory card inserted?  Pmount crashes but in Mandriva and debian stable it works just fine.
[12:46] <Jinkguns> Have any of you seen this new linux seller? http://system76.com/
[12:46] <Jinkguns> They look good.
[12:46] <arrick> how do I force umount?
[12:46] <Jinkguns> Very good.
[12:46] <binky> Driving me nutty
[12:46] <rukuartic> umount -f arrick?
[12:46] <arrick> thanks
[12:46] <Warbo> arrick: add -l
[12:46] <rukuartic> arrick: it was a guess
[12:47] <duelboot> Jinkguns, no and it's too expensive anyway
[12:47] <newbie33> hey... please tell how to change MAC adress permanent
[12:47] <rukuartic> arrick: Oh wait, I was right. XD
[12:47] <Jinkguns> You can't change your mac address, newbie.
[12:47] <Jinkguns> It's burned into the card.
[12:47] <duelboot> Jinkguns, yes you can!  MAC clone
[12:47] <newbie33> Jinkguns, I can
[12:47] <Jinkguns> Do you mean your I.P. Address?
[12:47] <cafuego> Jinkguns: Well, that wireless at least should work fine (natively) on the new Dapper.
[12:47] <Jinkguns> Well, Mac Clone sure. :/
[12:47] <newbie33> with ifconfig
[12:47] <newbie33> but how to do it permanent
[12:47] <Jinkguns> really cafuego?
[12:48] <ltR20> how do i edit my network config
[12:48] <cafuego> Jinkguns: Yep
[12:48] <cafuego> !bcm43xx
[12:48] <Jinkguns> Dear god YAY
[12:48] <ubotu> To use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.
[12:48] <ltR20> i want to change my ip address to *.101
[12:48] <ltR20> !tell ltR20 about network
[12:48] <cafuego> Jinkguns: The reverse engineering worked and there is now a mainly useable free driver (it does require firmware)
[12:48] <beerockxs> ltR20: system - system configuration - network
[12:49] <arrick> what is the force mount?
[12:49] <binky> Are there any kind pmount guru's?
[12:49] <superdump> hello
[12:49] <ltR20> beerrocxs
[12:49] <duelboot> binky, I'm a pmount guru...now just what is a pmount?  lol
[12:49] <ltR20> beerockxs, when i enter the new information the OK button is greyed out
[12:50] <superdump> i have a 32-bit chroot set up but when i try to apt-get realplayer it complains about an xlibs dependency being missing
[12:50] <Warbo> arrick: If I need to unmount something being accessed (well, only if the system THINKS it's being accessed) I use the "umount -l directory" (that's a lowercase L)
[12:50] <duelboot> jk binky don't know anything about it
[12:50] <arrick> Warbo, now I am trying to remount it
[12:50] <binky> pmount/hal automount thingamajigy
[12:50] <beerockxs> ltR20: are you sure you are entering the ip address correctly?
[12:50] <MrProper__> does anyone else think that the latest art work for dapper, is umm....well too kde'ish
[12:50] <superdump> i'm using dapper with main, restricted, universe and multiverse in my sources list
[12:50] <Mortuis> Is there a linux equivalent to windows notepad?
[12:50] <Warbo> arrick: Well, I don't know, sorry
[12:50] <spariticus_rex> Mortuis: gedit
[12:50] <Warbo> Mortuis: Gedit
[12:50] <cafuego> Mortuis: No, Linux has no text editor that are 8that* crap.
[12:51] <superdump> did the xlibs dependency get renamed for xorg 7 or something?
[12:51] <Mortuis> spariticus_rex: Thanks
[12:51] <beerockxs> ltR20: you can also directly edit /etc/network/interfaces
[12:51] <Mortuis> cafuego: It's what I'm used to man, gotta start somewhere. ;-)
[12:51] <Warbo> cafuego: I know someone who found a way of comtrolling a computer with 1 line of text opened in Notepad :)
[12:51] <newbie33> beerockxs, what to edit
[12:51] <cafuego> Mortuis: There are about 1500 other less crap text editors to pick from, though ;-)
[12:51] <newbie33> exactly
[12:51] <beerockxs> newbie33: huh?
[12:52] <arrick> hey whats wrong with this command? sudo mount -t ext3 /home/arrick/etc1
[12:52] <newbie33> I need to change mac too
[12:52] <scifi> !firefox
[12:52] <cafuego> arrick: You forgot the physical device.
[12:52] <spariticus_rex> arrick: you need the /dev point that you're mounting from
[12:52] <arrick> thanks
[12:52] <Warbo> arrick: If you give a type option, do you need to specify everything (it no longer reads fstab)?
[12:52] <rukuartic> newbie33: Why? Are you trying to be l33t and break into someone's network?
[12:52] <arrick> your rigth forgot is the word
[12:52] <newbie33> no
[12:52] <newbie33> I cant have internet
[12:53] <newbie33> I have two pc
[12:53] <newbie33> and internet may work only in one mac
[12:53] <newbie33> so if I want internet on other pc i need to set the same mac
[12:54] <spariticus_rex> newbie33: sounds pretty odd. What kind of setup do you have?
[12:54] <trainstroker> Is there a way i can auto execute a scipt of sorts.... everytime i restart my computer i lose permission to my ntfs partition. i have to unmount and remout with uid option.
[12:54] <cafuego> trainstroker: Add the uid/gid options in /etc/fstab
[12:54] <trainstroker> how
[12:55] <trainstroker> its just output isnt it?
[12:55] <newbie33> spariticus_rex, dont know
[12:55] <rukuartic> trainstroker: add something to .bashrc is a cheap easy way
[12:55] <Warbo> trainstroker: You haven't sorted out fstab properly then. But in any case startup scripts are in /etc/init.d and run update-rc.d (I think)
[12:55] <superdump> also, in my fstab i have "/dev/sdb1       /storage        ext2    user,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0013               0       0"
[12:55] <ENE|Toxic> So I installed Ubuntu-server with xdm/fluxbox. System tries to start xdm at init phase, but the screen just flickers and returns, giving me only the opportunity to login to console, why's that ?
[12:56] <superdump> trying to mount without a type definition tells me that the type is invalid or the superblock is invalid
[12:56] <cafuego> superdump: uid and gid have no effect on ext2
[12:56] <superdump> ok
[12:56] <cafuego> superdump: Mind you, it's not ext2 if you get that message. WHat is suppsoed to be on it?
[12:56] <superdump> but sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/sdb1 /storage works fine
[12:56] <Jinkguns> When is dapper coming out. ;)
[12:56] <spariticus_rex> ENE|Toxic: try running "startx" in the terminal and see what errors it puts out.
[12:56] <superdump> it's definitely ext2
[12:56] <Warbo> trainstroker: /etc/fstab is a config file, in plain text. Edit it with a n editor like Gedit or nano (as super user) to change it's options. I don;t know what your "It's just output" means
[12:57] <spariticus_rex> Jinkguns: Dapper is scheduled for June.
[12:57] <ENE|Toxic> spariticus_rex: startx works, and it opens a terminal from which I can launch fluxbox
[12:57] <superdump> and there's accessible data on it :)
[12:57] <Mortuis> How do I convert a text file created in windows to something gedit can read?
[12:57] <superdump> dos2unix?
[12:57] <spariticus_rex> ENE|Toxic: so your problem is getting xdm to work?
[12:57] <Warbo> Mortuis: Text is the most basic standard isn't it? Have m$ even screwed that up?
[12:57] <Mortuis> Warbo: "gedit was not able to automatically detect the character coding. Please, check that you are not trying to open a binary file and try again selecting a character coding in the 'Open File...' (or 'Open Location') dialog."
[12:57] <superdump> Warbo: line endings
[12:58] <ENE|Toxic> spariticus_rex: yep pretty much
[12:58] <Warbo> superdump: Isn't that just word docs?
[12:58] <binky> pmount output:ID=="pci0000:00"
[12:58] <binky>     DRIVER=="unknown"
[12:58] <binky>     Uh, if that helps anyone
[12:58] <spariticus_rex> ENE|Toxic: If you try "sudo xdm" from terminal, is there any error message?
[12:58] <mcphail> That error has nothing to do with line endings
[12:58] <trainstroker> warbo: i found the file (i thought fstab was a directory) and how do i implement the permissions
[12:58] <arrick> hey why did ubugtu send me to #ubuntu-unregged?
[12:59] <superdump> Warbo: any windows/dos doc unless you have some text editor that can output to unix style
[12:59] <ENE|Toxic> spariticus_rex: Nothing, the screen flickers and return.
[12:59] <Warbo> trainstroker: Look for the line with your device in it. Now add in the options column a comma then uid=yourusername
[12:59] <Stormx2> I made some wallpapers if any of you guys are interested - http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=38122
[12:59] <spariticus_rex> ENE|Toxic: No errors... Is there some sort of /var/log/xdm.log file?
[12:59] <Stormx2> owww pins and needles
[01:00] <superdump> cafuego: any suggestions? is there any way i can probe the partition for useful information?
[01:00] <ENE|Toxic> spariticus_rex: there's X.org.0.log
[01:00] <rukuartic> Stormx2: Once I fell asleep on my arm... when I woke up I couldn't move my arm
[01:00] <Mortuis> Warbo: The file contents display just fine when I cat the file.  For what that's worth.
[01:00] <Stormx2> rukuartic: Ah damn
[01:00] <cafuego> superdump: Try a different superblock.
[01:00] <ENE|Toxic> spariticus_rex: the X.org log doesn't contain any obviouis errors though.
[01:00] <superdump> what is a superblock?
[01:00] <spariticus_rex> ENE|Toxic: Strange. I'm not sure what the matter is then.
[01:00] <binky> thanks anyway everyone
[01:01] <Stormx2> Its a kind of robot.
[01:01] <Stormx2> That plays tetris
[01:01] <Stormx2> o.O
[01:01] <Stormx2> I'll be quiet now
[01:01] <Stormx2> How are you all this fine evening anyway?
[01:01] <Stormx2> No major hickups in dapper?
[01:01] <trainstroker> whats that applet called that will add "open with sudo/root" into the right click menu?
[01:01] <Warbo> Stormx2: Fine apart from the bloody cats yelling outside
[01:01] <ENE|Toxic> spariticus_rex: Ok thanks anyway. By the way, since I never did get xdm to run, what's it suppose to show me anyway, a login-screen similar to gdm, or just a simple interface with a terminal like startx ?
[01:02] <superdump> realplayer doesn't have satiated dependencies in my 32-bit chroot, is that a hiccup?
[01:02] <superdump> ;)
[01:02] <Warbo> trainstroker: It's added by automatix, that's all I know (don't use automatix)
[01:02] <Stormx2> !automatrix
[01:02] <ubotu> Stormx2: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:02] <spariticus_rex> ENE|Toxic: It's like gdm but a lot simpler. You simply type in your username and password and it opens your default window manager.
[01:02] <Matthewv> !automatix
[01:02] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[01:02] <Stormx2> ubotu, automatrix is evil, you should use easyubuntu or easybreezy
[01:02] <ubotu> okay, Stormx2
[01:02] <AskHL> !easyubuntu
[01:02] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[01:02] <Stormx2> Oh wait
[01:02] <Stormx2> I mispelt
[01:02] <Stormx2> Sorry
[01:02] <ENE|Toxic> spariticus_rex: sounds fine enough, but that it doesn't work. I'll just scoure the manual and see, thx
[01:03] <trainstroker> !automatix
[01:03] <Stormx2> ubotu: forget automatrix
[01:03] <ubotu> i forgot automatrix, Stormx2
[01:03] <trainstroker> ubotu: suck a cock
[01:03] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, trainstroker
[01:03] <Warbo> Stormx2: That's the next Matrix game, with AI that plays itself
[01:03] <DBO> !CoC
[01:03] <ubu_new> I asked before but I still have the same problem - after installation and not founding the screen (not live cd) I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it write that package not installed
[01:03] <ubotu> I heard coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[01:04] <Stormx2> Warbo: lol
[01:04] <Stormx2> *sigh*
[01:04] <Stormx2> I should get unreal tournament working on this machine
[01:04] <Stormx2> or learn C
[01:04] <Stormx2> or something
[01:04] <BlueSwirl> learn c
[01:04] <spariticus_rex> Stormx2: learn C and write some cool apps for us all! ;-)
[01:04] <Stormx2> The problem with ubuntu is I don't spend most of my time yelling "DAMN YOU WINDOWS STOP CRASHING!"
[01:04] <ubu_new> what to do in order to find the screen?
[01:04] <BlueSwirl> then portugese
[01:04] <Warbo> Stormx2:  I should finish the half-drawn icon that's witing in Inkscape on my other desktop
[01:05] <Stormx2> haha
[01:05] <BlueSwirl> Stormx2: lol
[01:05] <Stormx2> I already wrote some cool scripts 
[01:05] <Stormx2> One is the equivilent of PHP's ucwords
[01:05] <Warbo> Stormx2: That's why I'm in this chat, because I don't have anything to fix on my PC
[01:05] <arrick> My wife tells me to switch all the computers to Ubuntu, so my temper isnt always in the red zone, more peaceful around the house that way
[01:05] <arrick> haha
[01:05] <trainstroker> how do i open a file in sudo in the file browser
[01:05] <rukuartic> Hmm question here... why is it that if I move my wine application to another desktop or minimize it, CPU usage jumps up by 20%?
[01:05] <trainstroker> like open a text file under root
[01:05] <arrick> nano
[01:05] <spariticus_rex> Stormx2: great idea, why don't you rewrite UT2K4 for Linux?
[01:05] <arrick> or gedit
[01:05] <Stormx2> trainstroker: Double Click?
[01:06] <Warbo> trainstroker: Do it from a terminal with "sudo" beforehand
[01:06] <trainstroker> how do i edit the fstab then?
[01:06] <Stormx2> trainstroker: Yeah. or if you don't like terminal you could use alt+f2
[01:06] <arrick> Stormx2, you ave to doubleclick? it only takes me one
[01:06] <Stormx2> trainstroker: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[01:06] <Stormx2> arrick: 1 selects it for me, 2 opens it.
[01:06] <arrick> trainstroker, or sudo nano /etc/fstab
[01:06] <arrick> haha
[01:07] <Stormx2> do any of you actually like the default ubuntu wallpaper?
[01:07] <arrick> I hate poo brown
[01:07] <Stormx2> Yeah
[01:07] <Dekkard> the ubuntudapper beta wallpaper?
[01:07] <Stormx2> A lot of people think that.
[01:07] <Stormx2> Dekkard: Well from the article I saw posted on slashdot, its the same as the breezy wallpaper
[01:07] <mcphail> i like the brown. It's different.
[01:07] <Dekkard> its better than the crane
[01:07] <Warbo> Stormx2: Not really, although it doesn't get on my nerves like the XP one (too bright). I don't think it fits in with the shiny Dapper human theme either
[01:07] <ubu_new> anybody can help me with my screen problem?
[01:08] <rukuartic> ubu_new: screen the program?
[01:08] <ubu_new> that the screen is not supported
[01:08] <Dekkard> ok.. there is one now.. it says..Ubuntu dapper beta
[01:08] <rukuartic> ubu_new: So screen hardware? AKA: Monitor?
[01:08] <Dekkard> but othere than that the wallpaper group sucks..thats why i use gnomeart
[01:08] <Stormx2> Yeah but I mean... brown? Is it one of these like, secret conspiracies. To stop people being so bored on ubuntu that they commit suicide or worse, go on IRC? They think its so bad they have to manually look for a new wallpaper, which introduces them into basic firefox and gnome features
[01:08] <Stormx2> And also I blame the government XD
[01:09] <ubu_new> yes
[01:09] <FlannelKing> Stormx2: it's ok, in dapper it's switched to orange
[01:09] <jadaz87> Stormx2 the ubuntu background is so DEPRESSING it is not even funny
[01:09] <ubu_new> I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it says that package not installed
[01:09] <Warbo> Jinkguns: Just saw an advert for Solaris
[01:09] <mcphail> better than brushed metal
[01:09] <Dekkard> brown is the new black.....
[01:09] <Stormx2> XD Dekkard
[01:09] <Warbo> Jinkguns: Pity it was the film :(
[01:09] <rukuartic> Hahah Dekkard
[01:09] <BlueSwirl> i like ubuntu's default look, too many distros are blue os x rip offs
[01:09] <arrick> How stupid am I, I just sudo rebooted from remote, and forgot i dont have the riser card installed, so now I cant even log back in till I hook up a keyboard and monitor then hit ctrl+d to get passed the prompt, ouch
[01:09] <crimsun> if you spend SO much time whining about the default backdrop, you REALLY need to get out more.
[01:09] <Stormx2> I don't like the startup sound either
[01:09] <BlueSwirl> and i like os x
[01:09] <Stormx2> does that piss other people off either?
[01:10] <Warbo> Dekkard: Black is the new black. DarkAlloy's backgrounds are the best
[01:10] <crimsun> same goes for any default in Ubuntu.
[01:10] <rukuartic> Stormx2: Meh... startup is fine...
[01:10] <arrick> and to top it all off, I am 20 miles from the server
[01:10] <rukuartic> But the wallpaper does look dumb
[01:10] <rukuartic> And I'm not usually one to complain.
[01:10] <rukuartic> but hey, thats why you can pick and choose
[01:10] <Dekkard> Warbo:  not according to my bi.. i mean wife
[01:10] <trainstroker> anyone have an mtp device setup?
[01:10] <ubu_new> rukuartic, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop is not working as well
[01:10] <Stormx2> Its like you get that noise when your speakers are half plugged in. And then they pulsed the volume in and out and made a monkey play a keyboard in the top octave
[01:10] <rukuartic> or just use windows 800x600 default wallpaper if you must
[01:10] <rukuartic> ubu_new: What are you doing this from, console?
[01:11] <Stormx2> I thought windows doesn't have a default wallpaper?
[01:11] <mcphail> Does anyone remember the package which gave you new naked ubuntu people on your desktop every month?
[01:11] <rukuartic> From what it comes with at boot Stormx2
[01:11] <ubu_new> rukuartic, yes I just finished the installtion
[01:11] <BlueSwirl> surely it's that rolling green grass thing on windows?
[01:11] <Stormx2> It just starts off in that sea-water-with-too-much-polution colour
[01:11] <arrick> Stormx2, yeah it has rolling hills default
[01:11] <ubu_new> and now I am on the console
[01:11] <BlueSwirl> i use this on my ubuntu machine: http://art.ubuntu.com/backgrounds/ubuntu/94
[01:11] <rukuartic> ubu_new: Try ctrl+alt+f7... whats it give you?
[01:11] <Matthewv> mcphail, don't remember it, but that was ubuntu-calendar
[01:11] <rukuartic> ubu_new: Because it should be installed by default
[01:11] <Stormx2> arrick: XP?
[01:11] <arrick> yep
[01:11] <Stormx2> Ah
[01:11] <akcom> How would I go about browsing/downloading files from my bluetooth enabled phone if I already have the gnome-bluetooth package installed? (more interested in browsing the files on the phone)
[01:11] <Stormx2> I've never installed XP
[01:11] <ubu_new> rukuartic, nothing
[01:11] <Stormx2> I'm practicly a hacker already
[01:12] <rukuartic> ubu_new: how old is your computer?
[01:12] <arrick> Stormx2, about like installing ubuntu default
[01:12] <ubu_new> rukuartic, but I can still write in the console
[01:12] <ubu_new> not old
[01:12] <ubu_new> not so old
[01:12] <ubu_new> not sure
[01:12] <rukuartic> ubu_new: Does it have a graphics card?
[01:12] <ubu_new> yes
[01:12] <Apostle^> akcom: you need the obex client
[01:12] <ubu_new> the live cd worked
[01:12] <rukuartic> ubu_new: Integrated?
[01:12] <ubu_new> rukuartic, yes
[01:13] <rukuartic> Oh... thats odd. What'd you do, a server install or something?
[01:13] <rukuartic> ubu_new: Whats the problem when you go sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[01:13] <ubu_new> rukuartic, the live cd worked after I did sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[01:13] <Apostle^> akcom: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75978&highlight=plantronics+m2500
[01:13] <akcom> thank you
[01:14] <ubu_new> rukuartic, it writes few lines but the last line is e: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually....
[01:14] <spariticus_rex> What's with these wiered "Notices" about spamming?
[01:14] <Apostle^> spariticus_rex: they are what they say they are.
[01:14] <ubu_new> rukuartic, seems like bad news :(
[01:14] <Stormx2> I mean I really have propriety software... I'm a programmer and it annoys the hell out of me when people keep their code all locked up. Problem is, as free as ubuntu is, it has an awesome-cool millionare from space funding it. But what if we did fix bug #1? Microsoft lose their market share... It just makes things worse for smaller companies who say, want to make a game. It would be unholy for us to use one of these games, but progr
[01:14] <Stormx2> ammers need money, so you need to have a lot of funding to even get it off the ground.
[01:15] <spariticus_rex> Apostle^: but they don't make sense
[01:15] <Apostle^> what is an eft
[01:15] <ubu_new> rukuartic, so to run dpkg manually?
[01:15] <mcphail> Does anyone know how to add new locations to the "Places" menu in Breezy?
[01:15] <Stormx2> Real open-source games can't make a profit, and if they can't design for an audience which accepts propriety software, then where's the money? :P
[01:16] <Stormx2> No one is listening  Oh well. Ill go learn C heh
[01:16] <Apostle^> ahh a newt
[01:16] <BlueSwirl> let us know how that goes
[01:16] <FlannelKing> Stormx2: OS games can make money
[01:16] <dj-fu> How do you do those wongtong smiley faces
[01:16] <Apostle^> so a badger, a drake and a newt
[01:16] <Apostle^> WONGTONG
[01:16] <Apostle^> lmfao
[01:16] <rukuartic> ubu_new: Sure... I suppose. Thats a really weird problem...
[01:16] <Stormx2> FlannelKing: How?
[01:16] <FlannelKing> Stormx2: not from support contracts, but there are other ways.
[01:16] <akonkwa> How can I copy files from a remote server using a terminal based ssh, to a directory on my computer?
[01:16] <rukuartic> And whats "Hoary" mean?
[01:16] <Apostle^> hedgehog
[01:16] <dj-fu> hoary is like stink
[01:16] <ubu_new> rukuartic, can you please tell me what to write?
[01:16] <Trent> What is the ubuntu online apt repository?
[01:16] <Stormx2> like a whore
[01:16] <Warbo> Stormx2: There are relatively few new games these days anyway. It is not the programmers who do most of the work, it is the graphics artists who rebrand the same engines over and over
[01:16] <mcphail> akonkwa: sftp
[01:16] <rukuartic> akonkwa: scp or putty-scp
[01:17] <FlannelKing> Stormx2: donations, um, selling in-game items or whatever, depends on the genre, there are plenty of clever ways
[01:17] <dj-fu> Stormx2: how do you do that japanese smiley face
[01:17] <BlueSwirl> hoary (noun); the act of being hoar like
[01:17] <rukuartic> ubu_new: Once you find the package, should be "dpkg -i package-name.deb
[01:17] <Stormx2> dj-fu: Its a replace thing. it relaced :-) except without the -
[01:17] <spariticus_rex> :)
[01:17] <dj-fu> oh, in xchat?
[01:17] <arrick> yeah Stormx2 how o you do that?
[01:17] <akonkwa> mcphail, rukuartic , could you be more specific?
[01:17] <ubu_new> rukuartic, I am new here and have no idea how to find the package
[01:17] <Stormx2> dj-fu: Yeah
[01:17] <dj-fu> ah. do. using IRSSI
[01:18] <Trent> What is the ubuntu online apt binaries?
[01:18] <Trent> are*
[01:18] <rukuartic> ubu_new: Should be on the CD... you could try "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" or even "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[01:18] <Trent> Where** >.<
[01:18] <facugaich> Stormx2, may I ask what are your projects? I joined this conversation too late
[01:18] <mcphail> sftp user@host:directory/
[01:18] <rukuartic> Trent: Repositories?
[01:18] <Trent> Yes.
[01:18] <Stormx2> facugaich: What do you mean?
[01:18] <Stormx2> facugaich: I work on some websites o.O when i feel like it
[01:18] <Trent> That's what I had said first, but I thought I said sometwhing wrong.
[01:18] <dj-fu> Stormx2, which plugin is it?
[01:18] <facugaich> Stormx2, I guessed you wanted to make a game
[01:19] <facugaich> I was wrong lol
[01:19] <BlueSwirl> right, i'm off to try the xubuntu install beta
[01:19] <Xardas> good night
[01:19] <Stormx2> facugaich: Well I used to make games
[01:19] <Stormx2> Not very good ones, very retro
[01:19] <facugaich> stromx2, yeah, mine too
[01:19] <Stormx2> Pong, Worms, etc.
[01:19] <Warbo> Stormx2: I'm in favor of selling 1 game (say Doom3) then every rip-off skin for it should be available as an "add on" as well as stand alone. Then you don't buy the same stuff you already have, just the extras that new games offer. This probably wouldn't work on consoles though, and that is where the real money is
[01:20] <Stormx2> And to be honest xbox is already cracked. I've got linux on my xbox
[01:20] <Stormx2> its only a matter of time before the 360's firmware is figured out.
[01:20] <Stormx2> Still, I'm saving for a rev <3<3<3
[01:21] <Warbo> Stormx2: The only software I have payed for on my machine is Gish, and that didn't work for ages, then I had registration issues, then I got it working. I played it (VERY good) but now it doesn't work any more
[01:21] <Trent> rukuartic, Do you know the online repositories?
[01:21] <Stormx2> Well
[01:21] <Stormx2> Microsoft gave my dad a Windows 2000 BETA cd
[01:21] <Warbo> Stromx2: Now the moral is: You need a standard system for games (consoles)
[01:21] <rukuartic> !repositories
[01:21] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:22] <mcphail> Warbo: most of the open source games using the various iterations of the Quake engine haven't been as good as the commercial offerings
[01:22] <axemen|Thomas> Any helpful souls out there (yes i am a noob) ?
[01:22] <Stormx2> The few things I think windows beats linux at is 1) Graphics Applications (I *HATE* The Gimp) and 2) Soldat
[01:22] <spariticus_rex> axemen|Thomas: what's your problem?
[01:23] <dj-fu> gimp rocks
[01:23] <dj-fu> just takes a little gettin used to
[01:23] <FlannelKing> Stormx2: it's only a matter of critical mass, before adobe releases PS for linux
[01:23] <axemen|Thomas> spariticus_rex: well, installed ubuntu today, and i tried to install Wine. I am almost 100% sure ive set the repositorys correct, but still apt-get install wine will not work
[01:23] <dj-fu> and the keyboard shortcuts are different
[01:23] <Phlosten> Stormx2, do you hate the gimp because it cant do things, or because you don't know how to do things with it
[01:23] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: "sudo apt-cache search wine" find the package you want "sudo apt-get install packagename"
[01:23] <Warbo> mcphial: I agree that many new games are cool and add new features, but if they all use the same engine then you shouldn't have to pay for it over and over. Also, open-source games are ok for working on Linux systems (if quite bad generally) but you PAY for a linux game and it doesn't bloody work, because the distro maker can't tweak it
[01:23] <Phlosten> i love the gimp
[01:23] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: The package name isn't "wine"
[01:23] <Stormx2> I mean I'm a web designer... its just so... utterly useless... and unnatural... I mean its got enough effects its just the tools... it lacks the simplicity of Paint Shop Pro 7 and the professionalism of Photoshop 7
[01:23] <arrick> hey Stormx2 check out http://www.wikixbox360.com/page/Modding+FAQ?gclid=CMOXsI6PuoQCFRuKIgodZSLE_Q
[01:23] <Phlosten> its all i use now
[01:23] <facugaich> I hate it because the fact there's no polygon tool
[01:23] <eggzeck> I can do lots with Gimp, and knowing PS helps
[01:24] <jcole> are there any plans to update dri/drm in ubuntu dapper? it's more than 2 years old
[01:24] <akcom> Apostle^, using konqueror and kbluetoothd did not work for me, where can I get the obex client?
[01:24] <Stormx2> I've only softmodded my xbox. Set me back about 15 but it was worth it. Free games!! XD
[01:24] <tritium> Stormx2: I hope you're not talking about warez in this channel...
[01:25] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: could it be "xwine - graphical user interface for the WINE emulator
[01:25] <axemen|Thomas> " ?
[01:25] <Stormx2> tritium: Of course not.
[01:25] <rukuartic> Stormx2: Geez psp is awful
[01:25] <Warbo> Stormx2: I hate PSP so much. I haven't used PhotoShop in years so I can't comment
[01:25] <jcole> $ dmesg | grep drm | grep minor
[01:25] <jcole> [4294689.335000]  [drm]  Initialized i915 1.1.0 20040405 on minor 0:
[01:25] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Thats one of them
[01:25] <jcole> 2004!
[01:25] <Roger_The_Bum_> I need a bit of help
[01:25] <tritium> Good.  Please take the gaming discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:25] <FlannelKing> Roger_The_Bum_: just ask
[01:25] <Roger_The_Bum_> I need root access
[01:26] <Roger_The_Bum_> or at least know how
[01:26] <FlannelKing> !tell Roger_The_Bum_ about root
[01:26] <dj-smilee> is i2o support dodgy in linux full stop?
[01:26] <Roger_The_Bum_> in dapper flight 5
[01:26] <bimberi> Roger_The_Bum_: 'sudo -i' in a terminal
[01:26] <Roger_The_Bum_> and sudo su isn't working for me
[01:26] <Stormx2> I really hated Paint Shop Pro 8... They lost it on that one. But I do like PSP 7. it feels very lightweight and effortless to be, very intuitive. It lacks a lot of the features of photoshop but I can have 100 images open in PSP and have no slowdowns...
[01:26] <Roger_The_Bum_> -i?
[01:26] <mcphail> Does anyone know how to change the locations in the "Places" menu?
[01:26] <Warbo> Roger_The_Bum_: What do you want to do as root? sudo -i or sudo -s -H
[01:26] <Stormx2> Oh sorry
[01:26] <bimberi> Roger_The_Bum_: gets you a root shell
[01:26] <Stormx2> I'll got to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:26] <Phlosten> PSP is excellent for moderate graphics users
[01:27] <Roger_The_Bum_> so does sudo su
[01:27] <Stormx2> Which is basicly me.
[01:27] <Roger_The_Bum_> what does -i do specifically
[01:27] <Roger_The_Bum_> any difference?
[01:27] <rukuartic> well I heard sudo -i is better than sudo su
[01:27] <Roger_The_Bum_> ok
[01:27] <Warbo> Stormx2: PSP 5 was the best, but I am now addicted to the ease of Layers and translucency in GIMP
[01:27] <Roger_The_Bum_> I'll see
[01:27] <rukuartic> I think sudo su changes some system variables
[01:27] <bimberi> Roger_The_Bum_: -i (simulate initial login) option runs the shell specified in the passwd(5) entry of the user that the command is being run as.
[01:27] <jcole> is anyone else here running dapper? what year is your dri/drm? run "dmesg | grep drm | grep minor"
[01:28] <Roger_The_Bum_> I'm running this in vmware
[01:28] <Roger_The_Bum_> I'm trying to install vmware tools
[01:28] <tritium> jcole: please ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:28] <Stormx2> Maybe I'm just not used to the gimp. But in webdesign, a lot of stuff is precision. Like, pixel-by-pixel cropping and stuff... and i just down like the gimp for it. It feels like I have a gun on a long pole, and I'm trying to aim for a target 200 yards away. I can do it, it will just take me a while
[01:29] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: well, i basically just find 4 packages related to wine, xwine, libwine-dev, libwine and wine-doc
[01:29] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Well then try "sudo apt-get install wine"
[01:29] <akonkwa> How do I start X  from a remote server
[01:29] <rukuartic> akonkwa: startx?
[01:29] <Jinkguns> I can't wait for Dapper. ;>
[01:29] <rukuartic> Neither can I! :P
[01:29] <Stormx2> Jinkguns: And XGL!
[01:29] <Warbo> Stormx2: I do everything with PNGs and I despise GIFs. However, I think of PSP whenever I think of GIFs, so it must be OK for web design
[01:30] <rukuartic> Bah... XGL is just gonna be windows vista
[01:30] <Roger_The_Bum_> still not working
[01:30] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: thats what ive been trying, but then i get that the package is obsoloete, not available, reffered from another pacakge etc etc.
[01:30] <akcom> Does anyone know if I need some aditional package to make konqueror work with sdp:// & bluetooth:/ requests?
[01:30] <rukuartic> Gif can be ok if you get your pallats right
[01:30] <Roger_The_Bum_> Unable to copy the source file ./installer/services.sh to the destination file
[01:30] <akonkwa> rukuartic,  I get the error server already running!! but I don't see any windows :-s
[01:30] <Roger_The_Bum_> /etc/init.d/vmware-tools.
[01:30] <FlannelKing> axemen|Thomas: you might need to reload your packages
[01:30] <Roger_The_Bum_> hang on a sec
[01:30] <axemen|Thomas> FlannelKing: done that, like a million times :)
[01:30] <Stormx2> Warbo: I'm JPG all the way
[01:30] <trainstroker> anyone get an mtp device working with linux. im trying to get my Zen Vision :M working
[01:30] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Well if its obsolete... mmm... just use it anyways. Unless you wanna install it yourself...
[01:30] <rukuartic> trainstroker: moto4lin?
[01:30] <Warbo> rukuartic: I just despise the idea of "ANIMATION!" and it's 2 frames. Grrrr...
[01:30] <akcom> I keep on getting a "malformed URL error"
[01:30] <Stormx2> Warbo: I use gifs for animation, and pngs for higher-quality large graphics
[01:31] <rukuartic> Warbo: Bah...
[01:31] <Jinkguns> XGL?
[01:31] <Stormx2> XGL is so cool
[01:31] <Stormx2> !xgl
[01:31] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[01:31] <Warbo> Stormx2: JPG leaves artifacts, and since modt of my image manipulation involves cutting up other images this is very annoying
[01:31] <Stormx2> http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/ thats the link you want
[01:31] <rukuartic> Eww novell...
[01:31] <Stormx2> Warbo: Artifacts?
[01:32] <facugaich> what's that command to re-configure Xorg? something like "apt-get ..."
[01:32] <stpere> I've been struggling with the linux novell client for 2 days at work :-)
[01:32] <Stormx2> yeah but xgl is like women for your average nerd
[01:32] <stpere> I wonder if I could get it to work on ubuntu..
[01:32] <Stormx2> Ooh dapper got slashdotted
[01:32] <Stormx2> 3rd time this week I think
[01:33] <Stormx2> Eat that gentoo
[01:33] <Warbo> Stormx2: Put a white background and draw a diagonal black line. Save it as jpeg at less than 100% quality. Close it, then open it and zoom in. Not only is it all blurry, but is is also using 16777216 colours!
[01:33] <tritium> Stormx2: artifacts from the DCT performed on 8x8 blocks of pixels, and the subsequent compression
[01:33] <AskHL> Hello, if I use gksudo python <anything> then it complains that about 'no such file or directory'. However I can run python with files using regular sudo. What's going on here?
[01:33] <Stormx2> Warbo: True that
[01:33] <ENE|Toxic> xdm only flickers and kicks me back to console upon launch, and it leaves me with no error messages either. Have anyone experienced this problem ?
[01:34] <tritium> Warbo: work in a non-lossy format, and only save to a lossy one at the end, to avoid further image degradation
[01:34] <Mathman> ENE|Toxic: you mean it won't even let you try and log in?  you sure it's xdm?  not gdm or something?
[01:34] <Warbo> Stormx2: Also, if you like ahving loads of colours then 3D Studio Max 5 (the free trial I got with dWorld ages ago) can render to 48 trillion colour PNGs
[01:34] <ENE|Toxic> Mathman: yup that's exactly what I mean. Yes, I'm really really sure it's xdm.
[01:34] <rukuartic> Stormx2: Yes! Now I can take my desktop and turn it into a spinning cube
[01:35] <Mathman> ENE|Toxic: have you looked at /var/log/xorg.log or whatever?
[01:35] <Warbo> AskHL: Are you sure gksudo can give options to programs?
[01:35] <ENE|Toxic> Mathman: startx and all works fine, but xdm doesn't seem to work at all. I've been looking at X.org.0.log, but I found no obvioius errors there ... Or no errors at all
[01:35] <tritium> Warbo: that would be silly, since most displays are only 24-bit
[01:36] <taigeR> I have a CD that I burn in WinXP a long time ago with .iso files and when I insert it in ubuntu, it doesn't read it
[01:36] <taigeR> what could be wrong?
[01:36] <AskHL> Warbo, I discovered the error when running a command as specified from the easyubuntu webpage, so I suppose it 'generally' should work
[01:36] <Mathman> ENE|Toxic: yeah, I guess you maybe wouldn't if X works normally.
[01:36] <rukuartic> taigeR: Close the cd? Mount the CD?
[01:36] <Mathman> ENE|Toxic: dunno.  why xdm is what I'd wonder though?
[01:36] <taigeR> rukuartic, i just want to copy that CD
[01:36] <Stormx2> Yeah... 48 trillion? you'd still see the same colours
[01:37] <taigeR> but i can't even see the content of the DVD
[01:37] <facugaich> guys, how to re-configure Xorg?
[01:37] <AskHL> Warbo, I could run 'sudo su' and launch the script from there, but that's probably the thing gksudo exists in order to prevent.
[01:37] <tritium> facugaich: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:37] <mcphail> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:37] <Warbo> tritium: I know, but I still found it cool. Also in open formats you can add crazy stuff like "brightness" per pixel, making an image of the sun different from an image of some paper when it comes to animation.
[01:37] <ENE|Toxic> Mathman: Yeah I find that strange as well .. Whm, xdm is lightweight and doesn't allocate alot of memory in the background and all. I'm using ubuntu-server install with fluxbox :)
[01:37] <tritium> AskHL: sudo -i
[01:37] <facugaich> thank you
[01:38] <Warbo> AskHL: I never use gksudo myself you see, just sudo, that's why it was a question not a statement
[01:38] <AskHL> tritium, thank you, that did it.
[01:39] <mcphail> AskHL: have you tried gksudo python /full/path/to/file ?
[01:39] <taigeR> rukuartic, what do you say?
[01:39] <AskHL> Warbo, all right
[01:39] <AskHL> mcphail, I had tried that, too, yes
[01:39] <akonkwa> does anyone know where I can find my ssh configuration file?
[01:39] <Mathman> ENE|Toxic: I'd imagine you could run xdm from the command line, same as startx and all.  maybe try that and see if it spits out any errors.  Course you'll need to run X first too.  maybe just throw xdm in roots .xinitrc and run xinit?  actually I'm kinda unsure how you'd go about running it, I just figure it's possible.
[01:39] <rukuartic> akonkwa: /etc?
[01:39] <akonkwa> ssh
[01:39] <bimberi> akonkwa: /etc/ssh
[01:39] <AskHL> (and I have tested on more than one file)
[01:39] <taigeR> i can't see the content of my DVD
[01:40] <taigeR> could it be because it was burn in nero under WinX?
[01:40] <AngryElf> does anyone in here use lirc + mythtv?
[01:40] <taigeR> WinXP i mean
[01:40] <akonkwa> rukuartic,  bimberi , thanx
[01:40] <AskHL> Anyway, thanks for the help
[01:40] <bimberi> akonkwa: yw :)
[01:41] <ENE|Toxic> Mathman: well I tried starting xdm from terminal, but I get the same behavior, a flicker to X (x as in background with a terminal, not a login-screen) for 1ms and then back without any error.
[01:41] <Warbo> taigeR: Removable media like DVDs are the best standards compliant things you get. The only reason you mught not be able to see it after writing it on Wiondows is because Nero screwed the disc
[01:41] <mcphail> ENE|Toxic: does sudo /etc/init.d/xdm restart return an error?
[01:41] <ENE|Toxic> mcphail: hmm, start didn't, wait a sec and I'll see with restart
[01:42] <Klick_> Anyone here been able to figure out how to make thunderbird open URL's nothing happens when i click them, I have FF installed and in gnome i told it to be my perfered app
[01:42] <humbolt> what can cause my dapper to loose the wireless connection every 60 seconds. just long enough for my skype session being lost and my downloads being dropped?
[01:42] <rukuartic> using the wrong driver with ndiswrapper?
[01:43] <Klick_> syslog say anything?
[01:43] <humbolt> i have ipw2200 on a vaio with dapper
[01:43] <humbolt> syslog and dmesg dont say anything
[01:43] <humbolt> and NetworkManager does not seem to complain either.
[01:43] <akonkwa> Is there a way to load a graphical filebrowser from a unix server? (I already have it forwading X11)
[01:44] <ltR20> does anyone know how to get firefox working with flash
[01:44] <ltR20> i don't hear anysound in flash
[01:44] <humbolt> However, my downloads are dropped and my skype connection lost
[01:44] <rukuartic> ltR20: Go download aoss and run "aoss firefox"
[01:44] <mcphail> akonkwa: just type ssh:address to the address bar in nautilus on the local machine
[01:44] <ltR20> what's the apt-get ?
[01:44] <ltR20> apt-get install aoss?
[01:44] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: could the reason be that im running amd64 ubuntu? (yes, im still a noob :) )
[01:44] <humbolt> my ssh connections keep on dieing as well!
[01:45] <Mathman> akonkwa: depends on the unix server as to what it would have on it.
[01:45] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Haha... what, on a 686 or something?
[01:45] <humbolt> but they are a little more stable
[01:45] <humbolt> anybody any idea?
[01:45] <nalioth> humbolt: ask in #ubuntu+1 for dapper stuff, please
[01:45] <tritium> humbolt: my ipw2200 works well
[01:45] <ENE|Toxic> mcphail: yeah, "xdm not running (/var/run/xdm.pid not found)"
[01:45] <akonkwa> mcphail,  where can I find the address bar?
[01:46] <Warbo> akonkwa: ctrl-l I think
[01:46] <humbolt> nalioth: tritium: did have the problem in breezy either.
[01:46] <humbolt> might be related to some package I installed.
[01:46] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: no, but i just downloaded an older package from their website, and tried dpkg -i and got "package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)"
[01:46] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: my first day of linux.. ehehe
[01:46] <mcphail> akonkwa: (actually it is "ssh://address")
[01:46] <Mathman> ENE|Toxic: touch /var/run/xdm.pid?  check if /var/run exists?
[01:47] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Haha... might want to update... its ok. Good for you for trying
[01:47] <humbolt> I did not have this problem at first
[01:47] <facugaich> how often are repos updated?
[01:47] <akonkwa> mcphail,  I can't seem to find the address bar
[01:47] <akonkwa> mcphail,  where is it?
[01:47] <Mathman> akonkwa: did you try control l like someone was telling ya?
[01:48] <mcphail> akonkwa: it depend on how you have nautilus set up. ctrl-l might work
[01:48] <akonkwa> mcphail,  yes
[01:48] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: i just downloaded the previous version actually..
[01:48] <akonkwa> mcphail,  it doesnt work
[01:48] <Warbo> facugaich: There is usually a few packages updated per week at least (less activity now Dapper is so close) and Dapper has huge updates of everything every few days
[01:48] <ENE|Toxic> Mathman: Well that fixed the error message, still won't start though. Just says "stoppding xdm, starting xdm" with no errors. ..
[01:48] <facugaich> I see, Warbo, thank you
[01:49] <|GBH|> just installed Ubuntu server and have 2 issues. First is /var/log/messages is in an unreadable format and second is my network config isn't working (though the second I might be able to fix myself if the first one was sorted)
[01:49] <|GBH|> anyone help me please? :)
[01:49] <mcphail> akonkwa: i use nautilus in "browser" mode. I can't remeber the setting in spatial etc
[01:49] <akonkwa> mcphail,  ok i found it :-)
[01:49] <mcphail> akonkwa: :)
[01:50] <ltR20> rukartic how do i play movies?
[01:50] <ltR20> quicktime,mpg,wmv etc
[01:50] <ltR20> in firefox
[01:51] <rukuartic> !restrictedformats
[01:51] <Mathman> ENE|Toxic: you could have a look at what that script is doing and try and do it manually and see if any errors get spit out.
[01:51] <ubotu> I guess restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:51] <rukuartic> !wmv
[01:51] <rinnor1> is automatix worth it to upgrade firefox and other stuff
[01:51] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:51] <akonkwa> mcphail,  all right, i'm almost there, but what do I do if my login on the server is different than my login on my local machine?
[01:51] <rukuartic> rinnor1: Apparently, friends don't let friends do automatix :P
[01:51] <mcphail> akonkwa: ssh:''user@host
[01:51] <mcphail> akonkwa: ssh://user@host
[01:51] <ENE|Toxic> Mathman: yeah that's an option, I'll probably have a look at it tomorrow, need to get some sleep. Thx for the help
[01:51] <akonkwa> mcphail,  thanx
[01:51] <Warbo> rinnor1: no
[01:51] <mcphail> akonkwa: np
[01:52] <rinnor1> But to upgrade firefox from 1.0.7 to 1.5.2, I will need to follow about 5 steps in the wiki to add some links, etc.  Correct?
[01:52] <rinnor1> not a big problem
[01:53] <rukuartic> yea
[01:53] <rukuartic> there ya go rinnor1
[01:53] <rukuartic> dapper'll have all those nasty problems fixed.
[01:54] <rinnor1> looking forward to Dapper.  Of course, the better it works, the less I'll learn ;)
[01:54] <axemen|Thomas> excuse me, but what is Dapper?
[01:54] <rukuartic> rinnor1: You learn more by reading and looking for answers by yourself
[01:54] <beerockxs> the next ubuntu release axemen|Thomas
[01:54] <hadix> hi all
[01:54] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Next release of ubuntu. We go by code names
[01:54] <FlannelKing> axemen|Thomas: dapper is the next version of ubuntu.
[01:54] <rinnor1> axemen|Thomas, next release of Ubuntu
[01:54] <DewDude> Dapper is the name of the next release of Ubuntu
[01:54] <axemen|Thomas> aha!
[01:54] <axemen|Thomas> thanks :)
[01:54] <rukuartic> Haha
[01:54] <|GBH|> no one able to help with my problems then? :)
[01:55] <DewDude> rinnor1, i'm running the dev-build of Dapper..and it's been nice
[01:55] <hadix>  how can I adjust my monitor on 1280x800 pixels (15.4 wide screen)
[01:55] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Right now its Breezy Badger, was Hoary Hedgehog and a few other things
[01:55] <FlannelKing> WArty warthog
[01:55] <facugaich> |GBH|, why is messages in unreadable format? what did you use to see it?
[01:55] <DewDude> ahhh...Warty..the first ubuntu distro i installed
[01:55] <FlannelKing> axemen|Thomas: Dapper Drake is 6.06, the current version (Breezy) is 5.10
[01:55] <axemen|Thomas> i see
[01:56] <FlannelKing> DewDude: that's ebcause it was the first Ubuntu ;)
[01:56] <rukuartic> hadix: gnome-display-properties I think
[01:56] <|GBH|> standard grep/tail/cat
[01:56] <|GBH|> all I get is a fair stack of hex
[01:56] <axemen|Thomas> god im tired, spent all day trying to figure out this linux stuff. Managed to change resolution and refresh rate, get mp3s working, and divx (but with no sound)... :)
[01:57] <|GBH|> I'm used to Redhat/Mandrake and usually I just grep/cat/tail to my hearts content
[01:57] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Goooooood :P That took me forever.
[01:57] <facugaich> |GBH|, I see, then I don't know about that, sorry
[01:57] <rukuartic> |GBH|: What do you mean you get a hext dump O_o;; thats really weird
[01:57] <rukuartic> |GBH|: using bash?
[01:57] <|GBH|> well yes that was my thoughts ;)
[01:57] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: really good documentation to be found on the net actually. But this wine problem vexes me abit.
[01:58] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: ive followed the instructions 100%, but.. hmm
[01:58] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Try going to www.winehq.org
[01:58] <DewDude> axemen|Thomas, just don't give up...Ubuntu is a good distro to learn on.
[01:58] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: They have their own ubuntu repository for wine
[01:58] <facugaich> |GBH|, did you try "see text/plain:[file] "?
[01:58] <|GBH|> i's an absolute virgin install of Ubuntu - typing server at the prompt for install. Networking isn't working for some reason so I got to messages to look and I get this
[01:58] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: ive been living on that site for the last 3 hours :)
[01:59] <rukuartic> |GBH|: They figure that since you're a server admin, you can read hex like english :P
[01:59] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: yeah, i added the repository in the SPM and updated, no wine package found, then i added it "manually" in the /etc/apt/sources list and did apt-get update, but still.. arf.
[01:59] <|GBH|> basically each line is of the format [0000000.000000]  000: 00000000 // 00000000 0000000000 000000000 // 000000000 00000000 000000000 // 00000000 0000000000 000000000 // 000000000 00000000 000000000
[01:59] <mcphail> Does anyone know how to change the locations in the "Places" menu?
[01:59] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: You could try just going to bulid your own from source
[01:59] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: It really doesn't matter if you use an older version
[01:59] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: i even tried that, but then i got some kind of compiling error, and to try to fix that is way beyond me yet
[02:00] <ltR20> !tell ltr20 about restrictedformats
[02:00] <ltR20> !tell ltr20 about restricted formats
[02:00] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: What error didja get?
[02:00] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: 2 secs
[02:01] <|GBH|> nopthing on the net I could find with the same error, no one with the same problems in here. Ho hum :(
[02:02] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: ill PM it to you, its abit spammy for the general chat
[02:02] <mcphail> |GBH|: sounds like a problem with locales???
[02:02] <Shadyman> hey guys
[02:02] <Warbo> hey
[02:03] <|GBH|> shouldn't be, everything is fully English afaik
[02:03] <Shadyman> I'm having a fun little message on boot, says 0 logical volumes in volume group, and drops to shell
[02:03] <|GBH|> took English as all the locales
[02:03] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Pastebin.org?
[02:03] <rukuartic> :P
[02:03] <|GBH|> typing is perfect and nothing else seems to be incorrect
[02:04] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: oh.. hmm
[02:04] <|GBH|> it's an idea though
[02:04] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Its ok
[02:04] <rukuartic> Do you have build-essential installed axemen|Thomas ?
[02:04] <Warbo> Shadyman : Are you using logical volumes
[02:04] <Shadyman> warbo: Yes.
[02:04] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: i think so, i installed the stuff they told me to in the howto
[02:04] <mcphail> |GBH|: does it display like that from the console as well as x/gnome/whateverterm?
[02:05] <Shadyman> warbo: my windows is /dev/hda1, boot is /dev/hda2 as i recall, and then i have a logical volume for the rest
[02:05] <leagris> good night all
[02:05] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: i quote from their website "instead of running apt-get install wine run 'apt-get build-dep wine'. This will download the needed development packages for your system to make the wine package."
[02:05] <|GBH|> this is server, there is no GUI ;)
[02:05] <|GBH|> everything I do is console
[02:05] <mcphail> aah
[02:05] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Ok, open a command prompt, type "dpkg -l | grep build
[02:05] <mcphail> you running screen?
[02:06] <|GBH|> :q!
[02:06] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: That lists all the packages you have installed on your system, but searches for ones that have "build"
[02:06] <|GBH|> lol
[02:06] <|GBH|> oops
[02:06] <|GBH|> nope this is direct into the console via a directly connected keyboard/screen
[02:06] <Warbo> Shadyman: Sounds like my old Fedora system. Is the root= bit of your kernel line in GRUB pointing to /dev/mapper/Group-Volume or /dev/Group/Volume?
[02:07] <Shadyman> warbo: /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00
[02:08] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: http://pastebin.com/670437
[02:08] <Warbo> Shadyman: Hmmm. (I had problems occasionally with /dev/Chris/Root but never /dev/mapper/Chris-Root)
[02:08] <Shadyman> Warbo: Maybe it's jealous that I went back to using Windows.
[02:08] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Great, you have the needed programs
[02:08] <ts20_5m0k3> I wonder why I can't remove acx_pci
[02:08] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Go to winehq.com, download the source for the latest stable. We're gonna compile it.
[02:08] <Shadyman> Warbo: The only thing in /dev/mapper is "control"
[02:09] <sop> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
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[02:09] <sop> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[02:09] <Shadyman> wtf?
[02:09] <sop> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
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[02:09] <_jason> !ops
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[02:09] <sop> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[02:09] <Shadyman> +spam
[02:09] <FlannelKing> +R ubugtu +R!
[02:09] <rukuartic> Whoooop... that sucks...
[02:10] <Shadyman> yep
[02:10] <FlannelKing> oh, no... it's just that theyre identified now
[02:10] <rukuartic> Maybe we should join #fazlamesai and start pasting #ubuntu
[02:10] <Warbo> Shadyman: It sounds like you either have no LVM module in your initrd, or you have no Volumes in your Group (obviously wrong)
[02:10] <Amaranth> Ubugtu: Die.
[02:10] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: i did apt-get source wine, is that correct?
[02:10] <ITSa341> lol  this seems to be MUCH better     LOL
[02:10] <Amaranth> nalioth: only one guy
[02:10] <nalioth> rukuartic: NO. this is a smear attempt on that channel, they are not involved
[02:10] <FlannelKing> rukuartic: read your notices
[02:10] <rukuartic> nalioth: Oh... whoops!
[02:11] <rukuartic> nalioth: I was making a poor joke =\
[02:11] <Shadyman> Warbu: well, on load it says I have hda, at least. I Guess that's a good thing.
[02:11] <FlannelKing> nalioth: +R seems to be useless now, buggers.
[02:11] <nalioth> FlannelKing: that was a channel member being funny, i believe.
[02:11] <nalioth> FlannelKing: not a real spambot
[02:11] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Nope... go actually download the .tar.gz file
[02:11] <ITSa341> Good evening I have a simple question     Can I safely share one /home partition between Ubuntu 5.1, Dapper Drake and Xandros? Or is this a very bad idea?
[02:11] <Warbo> Shadyman: You haven't been messing around trying to load lvm1 and lvm2 at the same time have you? (they conflict)
[02:11] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: roger that
[02:11] <FlannelKing> nalioth: I don't believe so.  I think I've seen sop before.  but, could be.
[02:12] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Yep :)
[02:12] <Shadyman> Warbo: I'll admit I don't know what that means. So I guess it's a no.
[02:12] <Warbo> Shadyman: Oh, you wouldn't have then. (lvm is Logical Volume Manager and versions 1 and 2 cannot be used at the same time)
[02:12] <OrTigaS> hi
[02:12] <Shadyman> Warbo: I figured as much, but hey ;)
[02:13] <ltR20> how do i play .avi files in ubuntu
[02:13] <ltR20> i downloaded the w32 codecs and they still dont play
[02:13] <Shadyman> Warbo: The biggest crying shame is I just got everything working fine.
[02:13] <Shadyman> Warbo: Wireless, ACPI, etc.
[02:13] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: could  	wine-0.9.12.tar.bz2 be the correct one?
[02:13] <keleus> hi all... anyone know what to do about this?
[02:13] <keleus> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2: MD5Sum mismatch
[02:13] <rukuartic> should be axemen|Thomas
[02:13] <Shadyman> keleus: Re-download it?
[02:13] <keleus> when i try to update my package list
[02:14] <rukuartic> keleus: sudo apt-cache clear I think...
[02:14] <Shadyman> keleus: Oh.
[02:14] <_jason> ubotu: tell ltR20 about multimedia
[02:14] <rukuartic> keleus: sudo apt-get clean actually
[02:14] <benji_123456789> when is dapper realeased again?
[02:14] <Warbo> Shadyman: Well, are you sure they are set up correctly? Have you accessed them before from a regular boot up (not just after installation)? I had no problems with LVM on Breezy with my Home spread accross 2 drives (until one failed and took the other with it)
[02:14] <Shadyman> Warbo: I've used it for months.
[02:14] <bimberi> benji_123456789: june 1
[02:14] <Warbo> Shadyman: Hmmmm. Done a kernel upgrade recently?
[02:15] <zaxc> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[02:15] <benji_123456789> many thanks
[02:15] <Shadyman> Warbo: Just, I haven't used it for a month or so, and I tried to boot, and it didnt work.
[02:15] <zaxc> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[02:15] <ITSa341> Can I safely share one /home partition between Ubuntu 5.1, Dapper Drake and Xandros? Or is this a very bad idea?
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[02:15] <_jason> !ops
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[02:15] <ITSa341> lol  here we go again
[02:15] <_jason> Seveas: bot needs to be fixed :)
[02:15] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[02:15] <DBO> hmmm, it seems they are registering now...
[02:15] <Shadyman> Warbo: I'm on 2.6.12-10
[02:15] <Amaranth> DBO: n= means not identified
[02:15] <keleus> wtf was that zaxc
[02:15] <FlannelKing> ITSa341: the only problem I can see is the init scripts, all the data is fine, since it's just that, data.
[02:15] <amphi> ITSa341: should be ok - if program versions are very different, some dotfiles might get clobbered
[02:15] <Shadyman> Warbo: Omg.
[02:16] <ITSa341> I really feel for you guys trying to find a way to stop that and appreciate your efforts
[02:16] <nalioth> _jason: already on it
[02:16] <Warbo> Shadyman: I think it is to do with the initrd file on /boot, which only gets changed when you upgrade your kernel
[02:16] <Shadyman> Warbo: One of my boot options worked.
[02:16] <DBO> Amaranth, then why isnt +r working again?
[02:16] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: ok, all downloaded
[02:16] <nalioth> DBO: it doesnt work on registered users
[02:16] <Amaranth> +r is registered channel, iirc
[02:16] <FlannelKing> +R not +r
[02:16] <Shadyman> Warbo: I guess that means I get to clean out the initrd file ;)
[02:16] <Amaranth> oh, that's a different ircd
[02:16] <Amaranth> but yeah, we want +R
[02:16] <OrTigaS> hi
[02:16] <ITSa341> amphi and FlannelKing,  ty for your help
[02:16] <Warbo> Shadyman: Can you read binary?
[02:16] <Shadyman> Warbo: 01101001?
[02:17] <Warbo> Shadyman: No, 000011101010, you fool
[02:17] <keleus> thanks,  got it working
[02:17] <Shadyman> Warbo: Obviously.
[02:18] <Shadyman> Warbo: Now all I have to do is copy over a DHCP3 folder from my other ubuntu box to get dhcp again.. Don't ask
[02:18] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Great. open up a prompt, and "tar -xjf wine...."
[02:18] <Warbo> Shadyman: Seriously though, it is a compressed filesystem image which contains basic kernel drivers to access your root partition (where the rest are stored). So are you saying it's working?
[02:18] <Shadyman> Warbo: No, I was thinking of the wrong file.
[02:18] <rukuartic> just finish off the filename. if you type "wine" and hit the TAB key it should finish the filename for ou
[02:18] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: done
[02:19] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Seroius? O_O that was... ...fast!
[02:19] <ITSa341> Warbo  you would have loved the background of my old website. I took a screensaver from the Matrix and replaced their code with binary code of our business name
[02:19] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Ok, switch to the new directory and type "./configure" (the ./ is really important)
[02:19] <amphi> rukuartic: heh
[02:20] <rukuartic> amphi: "Hey this is taking like... five days... whats wrong?"
[02:20] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: you said I could msg yesterday... oh well.
[02:20] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: you rang?
[02:20] <Warbo> Shadyman: Do you have any Live CDs that have LVM support? (Ubuntu Live does, but I think you have to run all of the commands yourself (for mounting and stuff)) See if that detects your system. If not then something's wrong with the Logical Volume
[02:20] <King-of-no-pants>  amphi: yes, turns out I registered this name a month ago
[02:20] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: I just forgot
[02:20] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: no worries
[02:20] <Warbo> ITSa341: I'd hate it. I'm barely scratching the surface of Python at the moment, let alone binary!
[02:20] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: http://pastebin.com/670457
[02:21] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: anyways, How long should a memtest take to complete?
[02:21] <ltR20> _jason you there?
[02:21] <_jason> ltR20: yeah
[02:21] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: This'll take a moment... and "make" will take longer... in the background, put in "apt-get install checkinstall"
[02:21] <ltR20> I installed all those plugins and the movie still wont play.
[02:21] <Shadyman> Warbo: I got one of the boot options to work, though not the latest.
[02:21] <_jason> ltR20: what type of movie? what player? what exactly happens?
[02:21] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, as long as you are willing to give it, the longer the better, overnight is a standard run
[02:21] <ltR20> I had to do this 2 weeks ago to but i forgot what you said.. i reinstalled ubuntu yesturday
[02:21] <ltR20> It's totem movie player, avi.
[02:21] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: i got that same error again :(
[02:21] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: AFAIR it can take a long time - when I got a 1GB upgrade I think I ran it for 18 hours or so
[02:21] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: if you check the pastebin thingie
[02:21] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Oh, sudo apt-get install gcc I think..
[02:21] <ltR20> "totem could not play "...asdad.avi" no plugin to handle this movie
[02:21] <King-of-no-pants> well, its been going for, 22 Hours
[02:22] <King-of-no-pants> and eighteen minutes
[02:22] <ITSa341> Warbo  we took it down as it was too distracting and I got tired of the emails from people who managed to figure out that it said "Systembytes....etc" and complained about subliminal messages
[02:22] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, thats long enough
[02:22] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: newest is installed
[02:22] <rukuartic> Er, what do you need to compile stuff? build-essential and what else?
[02:22] <Jinkguns> I'm doing the wireless setup for the broadcom chip, and trying: sudo sed --in-place 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/g' $conffile returns "sed: can't read -: No such file or directory
[02:22] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: does it ever "complete" ?
[02:22] <Jinkguns> Any ideas?
[02:22] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: that should be ok ;)
[02:22] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, no
[02:22] <King-of-no-pants> ahh!
[02:22] <Warbo> Shadyman: Oh, that's what you meant by boot option (I thought you meant an option given to the kernel). OK, well there is no point remaking the initrd yourself, but you can run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-(your kernel version)" to rebuild it with the defaults
[02:23] <King-of-no-pants> well, 28 passes and 0 errors
[02:23] <spazzyworm> hi folks, anyone know where to get the newly released dapper beta?
[02:23] <nalioth> rukuartic: the error msgs from w/e you are doing will advise what you need
[02:23] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: no errors? when I had some marginal ram, I got many errors, rarely or never at consistent addresses
[02:23] <Warbo> ITSa341: Is it subliminal if nobody can actually understand it? Would I be influenced by a subliminal Swedish advert?
[02:23] <ITSa341> Warbo   that is what I said
[02:23] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, you know what that means?  your ram is just fine =)
[02:23] <malavar> hello everyone
[02:23] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: haha, i dont think wine wants to install on my system :)
[02:23] <_jason> ltR20: do you have mplayer?
[02:24] <King-of-no-pants> errors: 0, ECC errors, blank
[02:24] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: rejoice
[02:24] <King-of-no-pants> well thats no help!
[02:24] <King-of-no-pants> now I dont know whats wrong with my computer
[02:24] <jeremybk_> Could someone help me mount an XP share
[02:24] <DBO> what is happening King-of-no-pants ?
[02:24] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: you never did
[02:24] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: crashing
[02:24] <ltR20> yes jason
[02:24] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, in what manner?
[02:25] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: but now you've eliminated one possibility
[02:25] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: a few different ones
[02:25] <_jason> ltR20: does mplayer play it?
[02:25] <ltR20> No
[02:25] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: and I replaced the graphics card
[02:25] <Warbo> Does anyone know what happens when you plug a TV out in an ATI card into a TV? I heard that if you boot up with it in then you get a TV out image on your TV, but I don't (can't tell if it's the computer or the telly)
[02:25] <Mathman> King-of-no-pants: I'd run memtest over night myself
[02:25] <_jason> ltR20: mplayer -identify file.avi, on pastebin please
[02:25] <amphi> DBO: he had at least one spmtaneous reboot
[02:25] <DBO> Mathman, he just did =P
[02:25] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: random flips into console mode, one spontaneous reboot, a few freezes
[02:25] <Mathman> DBO: hmm, ok.  coulda sworn he said 20 minutes or something.
[02:25] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: It can, and it WILL.
[02:26] <King-of-no-pants> mathman: 22 hours :)
[02:26] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, sounds like thermal issues and/or dirty power
[02:26] <monesent> hello
[02:26] <Mathman> ah, ok.  my mistake
[02:26] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: :)
[02:26] <CokeNCode> ok, i installed xampp
[02:26] <Jinkguns> err, when is dapper coming out?
[02:26] <rukuartic> nalioth: Ask Axe for the error messages... says GCC can't build executables or something.
[02:26] <CokeNCode> and now i can't find apache
[02:26] <CokeNCode> or any of the services
[02:26] <spazzyworm> anyone?
[02:26] <CokeNCode> what gives ?
[02:26] <Warbo> monesent: hello
[02:26] <CokeNCode> how do i start apache  ?
[02:26] <me2win> ubotu: tell Jinkguns about dapper
[02:26] <monesent> hey guys
[02:26] <ltR20> _jason is there a command to play it in the terminal
[02:26] <nalioth> ubotu tell CokeNCode about lamp
[02:26] <monesent> is it true that neti2220 works on the ubuntu linux distro
[02:26] <nalioth> CokeNCode: check your priv msgs
[02:26] <jeremybk_> I added a line to my fstab file to mount an unprotected XP share.  Every time I reboot, it asks for a password.
[02:26] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: I am reluctant to replace the power supply, as it contains the only fan that is blowing over the processor
[02:26] <amphi> spazzyworm: ubuntu.org?
[02:26] <rukuartic> xampp is friendly :P
[02:26] <CokeNCode> i know, i have it installed already
[02:26] <_jason> ltR20: I just gave it to you
[02:26] <me2win> !xampp
[02:26] <ubotu> me2win: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:27] <CokeNCode> and it was working
[02:27] <spazzyworm> amphi> not yet
[02:27] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: that could be your problem, overheating
[02:27] <monesent> even on the acer aspire 1522WLMi
[02:27] <ltR20> _jason sorry i didn't see
[02:27] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, that might be part of your problem here, can you check your CPU temperature (you might need to check in BIOS)
[02:27] <CokeNCode> but, now, i don't know how to get the services running again
[02:27] <_jason> ltR20: mplayer -identify file.avi, on pastebin please
[02:27] <CokeNCode> namely apache
[02:27] <rukuartic> me2win: Xampp is apache, mysql, php, and perl. As well as a FTP server and a few other things. makes it really easy to start a capable server in seconds
[02:27] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: if acpi is working on that box, you could try acpi -t
[02:27] <monesent> wurd
[02:27] <monesent> oops
[02:27] <nalioth> CokeNCode: the answer is in your irc private messages
[02:28] <me2win> rukuartic: i know, i had added a xampp factoid to ubotu, but it doesnt exist anymore it seems
[02:28] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: This computer was not built by me, it was made by NEC, I don't think they would ship a box that would overheat
[02:28] <rukuartic> oh, nalioth http://pastebin.com/670457 there it is :P
[02:28] <jeremybk_> I added a line to my fstab file to mount an unprotected XP share.  Every time I reboot, it asks for a password.
[02:28] <ltR20> _jason http://pastebin.com/670469
[02:28] <k31th> If i wanted to set some thing in vixiecron to run at say 7am wat would i put in crontab ?
[02:28] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: there's no fan on the cpu? what cpu is it?
[02:28] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, you would be surprised...  if dust has built up on the heatsink it very well could be
[02:28] <_jason> ltR20: you put the -identify in there?
[02:28] <amphi> k31th: man 5 crontab has the grisly details
[02:28] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: 400mhz, Slot 1, PII
[02:29] <DBO> nevermind...
[02:29] <DBO> that doesnt put out much heat
[02:29] <rukuartic> nalioth: I'm just trying to figure out what I need... its build-essential, gcc, and what else?
[02:29] <King-of-no-pants> DBO: I'll check it out, as it looked very clean to me the other day.
[02:29] <k31th> amphi: ta
[02:29] <ltR20> sorry i didnt copy it properly
[02:29] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: slot 1? Is that the damn great daughter-board-in-a-box?
[02:29] <ltR20> http://pastebin.com/670472
[02:29] <nalioth> rukuartic: try a version up or downstream of wine source
[02:29] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, do you have a multimeter?
[02:29] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: a what?
[02:29] <Warbo> rukuartic: build-essential gives you gcc
[02:29] <monesent> thanx ;)
[02:29] <rukuartic> nalioth: He's having a problem installing with apt-get
[02:30] <rukuartic> nalioth: i was going to have him get source and checkinstall
[02:30] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: that's a 'no' , I guess ;)
[02:30] <djk_> mmh, are there any download-managers for linux?
[02:30] <asdf25> how do i change the image shown on the console while booting?
[02:30] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, its a device that measures electrical current... king of looks like two meat thermometers attatched to wires...
[02:30] <monesent> huh me?
[02:30] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: Im not sure what a multimeter is
[02:30] <nalioth> rukuartic: build-esential and checkinstall are good basics to have
[02:30] <rukuartic> djk wget works well :P
[02:30] <nalioth> rukuartic: mind my spelling
[02:30] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: Oh yeah! my teacher used one of those on a machine of mine earlier this year
[02:30] <Warbo> djk_: quite a few, I use DownThemAll plugin in FireFox
[02:30] <rukuartic> nalioth: :P
[02:30] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: I don't have one on me, thou
[02:31] <spazzyworm> djk_; mostly front-ends to wget
[02:31] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: er, more on a power chord
[02:31] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, beautiful, you think you could get your teacher to measure the voltage levels on your PSU then (since he seems comfortable doing it)
[02:31] <monesent> iso? and a copy of a cd burner worked for me
[02:31] <djk_> rukuartic: yea i know, but a frontend would be nicer
[02:31] <CokeNCode> oh k, thanks a bunch guys
[02:31] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: I'll do that.
[02:31] <djk_> spazzyworm: oh nice. what are they called?
[02:31] <rukuartic> djk_: Search google for "wget gnome frontend"
[02:31] <djk_> Warbo: yea i know that, but i don't use ff ;)
[02:31] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Hey, I'm gettin some help from nalioth
[02:31] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: do I need to bring in anything other than the psu?
[02:31] <monesent> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[02:31] <_jason> ltR20: does this happen with other xvid files?
[02:31] <spazzyworm> djk_: gwget is the best one IMHO
[02:32] <jeremybk_> Could someone help me mount an XP share?
[02:32] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, YES!  the whole PC needs to go
[02:32] <Warbo> djk_: Well I've started to use Epiphany more now anyway
[02:32] <ltR20> _jason Yes.
[02:32] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, do NOT turn the PSU on without some kind of load on it
[02:32] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: How should I go about stopping the memtest?
[02:32] <_jason> ltR20: then it's a problem with the actual video most likely
[02:32] <djk_> Warbo: opera is my one true love :)
[02:32] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: Ok
[02:32] <Warbo> djk_: I did have "downloader for X" but it was a bit crap
[02:32] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: im hanging in there :) i appreciate all your help. I checked config.log, and it said something like: http://pastebin.com/670475
[02:32] <ltR20> _jason it happens with other videos
[02:32] <djk_> spazzyworm: thanks, i'll try it
[02:32] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: It would just be alot easier for me to bring in a psu...
[02:32] <_jason> ltR20: oh
[02:32] <ltR20> _jason none of my vids work.
[02:33] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, I understand fully, but doing so is dangerous to both you and the PSU
[02:33] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: thats why I checked
[02:33] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: ;)
[02:33] <Warbo> brb (nature calls)
[02:33] <_jason> ltR20: why are using debian mplayer?
[02:34] <ltR20> _jason ? no clue.
[02:34] <Klick_> hey what exactly are orphined packages i have a ton of them but it looks like stuff i use, is it safe to delete these?
[02:34] <DBO> =)  make sure you are very careful, a PSU is not something you want to play games with.  If your teacher does not seem comfortable, seek further help.  Do not attempt to check the voltages on your own unless you are very comfy with it
[02:34] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: reboot
[02:34] <ltR20> _jason how do i get the trash icon on my desktop, i deleted somthing by accident
[02:34] <_jason> !desktoptrash
[02:34] <ubotu> desktoptrash is, like, applications menu-> system tools-> configuration editor: /apps/nautilus/desktop/trash_icon_visible
[02:34] <King-of-no-pants> he guys, I'll brb, Im gonna get on a laptop, so I can run the Linux PC and chat at the same time.  And I've gotta go to the bathroom.
[02:34] <ice_1963> is there a why to jest install the base of gnome?
[02:34] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: alright, brb
[02:34] <FlannelKing> ice_1963: install gnome-base, or whatever its called
[02:35] <Phlosten> ice_1963, you could do a server install and just install what you need on top of that
[02:35] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Hey... I get helped by other people... pass on the knowledge :P
[02:35] <ice_1963> ok
[02:36] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: might want to pass to nalioth
[02:36] <ltR20> _jason i fixed it, thanks.
[02:36] <_jason> ltR20: the video problem?  what caused it?
[02:36] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: thanks a bunch mate, eventho wine is not yet installed, i learned alot :)
[02:37] <ice_1963> ok how can i do a server install?
[02:37] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Yea... you just keep learning. Its a great thing :P
[02:37] <ltR20> it was that one video, but 5 minutes before the other videos wernt working either
[02:37] <ltR20> anyway it works now thx
[02:37] <FlannelKing> ice_1963: from the install CD, type "server" at the initial prompt
[02:37] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: still just my first day of linux :)
[02:37] <amphi> axemen|Thomas: you appear to have no suitable standard c library...
[02:37] <Phlosten> ice_1963, be aware that a server install is very bare bones, it is only about 63 packages versus the 500 for a normal install
[02:37] <Shadyman> axemen|Thomas: I remember my first day.
[02:38] <rukuartic> amphi: What do you need to compile stuff? build essential and...
[02:38] <Shadyman> axemen|Thomas: I was like omgwtf
[02:38] <rukuartic> amphi: Its like 3 things...
[02:38] <ice_1963> and that will install my right
[02:38] <rukuartic> awm-gee Shadyman!!
[02:38] <axemen|Thomas> Shadyman: haha :)
[02:38] <ice_1963> base
[02:38] <jinho326> hi i installed xubuntu yesterday and today when I turned it back on, it wouldnt load...I've had this problem with the original ubuntu...so I tried to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but it hasnt helped...any ideas?
[02:38] <amphi> rukuartic: all the errors seem to be the linker complaining about libc
[02:39] <monesent> thnx guys
[02:39] <rukuartic> amphi: Mmmm.
[02:39] <Shadyman> jinho326: How do you mean "Not load"?
[02:39] <jinho326> Shadyman: I mean that it wont go into the GUI
[02:39] <Shadyman> jinho326: What does it go into?
[02:40] <rukuartic> amphi: its a vanilla system
[02:40] <jinho326> Shadyman: I have access to the command line if i boot through recovery mode
[02:40] <jinho326> Shadyman: but thats about it
[02:40] <ice_1963> what is in ubuntu right now gnome 2.12 or 2.14 ??
[02:40] <rukuartic> 2.12 ice_1963
[02:40] <Shadyman> jinho326: Oh. I don't know about that, then. sorry
[02:40] <rukuartic> Dapper'll have 2.14
[02:40] <amphi> rukuartic: 64/32 bit problem? dunno, I'm all 32bit
[02:40] <jinho326> Shadyman: thing is xubuntu is using xfce
[02:40] <rukuartic> amphi: Naw its just a vanilla system. He doesn't have the important installed stuff
[02:40] <jinho326> would that have to do w/ it?
[02:40] <rukuartic> Whoo! go xfce!!
[02:41] <amphi> rukuartic: he hasn't installed build-essential?
[02:41] <jinho326>  (xfce is so pretty...but I cant get to it...T_T)
[02:41] <rukuartic> amphi: He's got that... what else is there? there's like three total
[02:41] <rukuartic> jinho326: At the login screen, click "session"
[02:41] <amphi> rukuartic: 3 total what?
[02:41] <rukuartic> amphi: Packages you need to install to build stuff
[02:41] <jinho326> rukuartic: thing is I cant even get to the login screen
[02:41] <ice_1963> can i install my nvidia driver ?
[02:41] <rukuartic> jinho326: System>Logout? I think?
[02:41] <Phlosten> jinho326, did you just install that latest Xubuntu cd?
[02:41] <jinho326> I'm running ATI 9200,
[02:42] <amphi> rukuartic: build-essential is a meta-package 'containing' many packages
[02:42] <jinho326> Phlosten: yeah...
[02:42] <invisage01> anyone having problems downloading the dapper daily build today? or is it just me?
[02:42] <Phlosten> jinho326, did you follow the instructions to install xubuntu-desktop?
[02:42] <amphi> rukuartic: he might need another version of gcc, dunno
[02:42] <nemik> doing dist-upgrade to dapper was the stupides decision ever. EVERYTHING is broken
[02:42] <jinho326> Phlosten: what do you mean? I had it working perfectly yesterday...
[02:42] <invisage01> http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/ is just timing out for me.. anyone else have this prob?
[02:42] <amphi> nemik: that's the fun of unstable
[02:43] <jinho326> Phlosten: today when I loaded it, this was the first reboot- thing is this screen problem also happened w/ breezy installation of regular ubuntu
[02:43] <nemik> amphi, my eth0 is gone; doesn't exit. i can't even connect to the internet!
[02:43] <Phlosten> jinho326, the install instructions for Xubuntu state that the CD should be installed with 'server' mode and you should install xubuntu-desktop manually
[02:43] <ITSa341> invisage01   I've been getting timeouts trying to download the dvd version for two days now. Gets 1/2 way and times out
[02:43] <Phlosten> jinho326, ok, fair enough
[02:43] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: I actually have to split to get a shower real quick... =\
[02:44] <Phlosten> jinho326, did it shut down cleanly?
[02:44] <rukuartic> amphi: If you're not doing anything, he needs help
[02:44] <jinho326> Phlosten: like a breeze
[02:44] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: np mate, thanks a bunch for all your help :)
[02:44] <ITSa341> invisage01   that link times out for me also
[02:44] <amphi> nemik: doesn't exit?
[02:44] <invisage01> thanks ITSa341: i was having similar probs trying to dl at work yesterday.. trying with a DL manager from home today.. but only timing out
[02:45] <invisage01> .. called in sick and everything to do it heh
[02:45] <amphi> axemen|Thomas: are you on a 64bit machine?
[02:45] <nemik> amphi, yep; just gone. not to mention that x won't start and all the seg-faults i get even booting
[02:45] <jinho326> Phlosten: has there been any reports of issues like this w/ dapper?
[02:45] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Heh. No problem ;p
[02:45] <Warbo> amphi: I think doesn't exist
[02:45] <axemen|Thomas> Amphi: yeah
[02:45] <ITSa341> invisage01   I tried it on 3 machines
[02:45] <amphi> nemik: what happens if you modprobe the module?
[02:45] <nemik> amphi...how would i do that?
[02:45] <invisage01> it's not just me for once! :) best news EVER! :P
[02:45] <Phlosten> jinho326, I havent noticed any, you could have a look through the forums
[02:46] <amphi> axemen|Thomas: that would seem to be at least part of the problem - I don't know about 64bit, so I can't help
[02:46] <jinho326> Phlosten: any last words of advice (or comfort...)
[02:46] <trainstroker> i built and installed the xvid codec, so now all i have to do is open a movie player and it will work. or do i need to register it somehow
[02:46] <yipe> hi everybody
[02:46] <amphi> nemik: what card is it?
[02:46] <Warbo> yipe: hi
[02:46] <Klick_>  Can someone tell me what orphaned packages are i notice i have a lot of them but, im not sure if i use them or not
[02:46] <Phlosten> jinho326, you said you tried dpkg-reconfigure on xorg right?
[02:46] <nemik> amphi, not to sure; internal ethernet one; probably broadcom
[02:46] <ITSa341> invisage01   I tried it at work  LOL
[02:46] <jinho326> Phlosten: yup
[02:46] <amphi> nemik: lspci would tell you, probably
[02:46] <jinho326> Phlosten: o yeah... i didnt use the frame buffer thing for the kernel...would that have helped?
[02:46] <yipe> how can I find out my system's uptime?
[02:46] <Phlosten> jinho326, have you tried it with the 'vesa' driver?
[02:47] <nemik> amphi, lscpi? command not found...
[02:47] <Phlosten> jinho326, no, no frame buffer is usually best
[02:47] <amphi> Klick_: packages on which no others depend, such as unnecesary libraries
[02:47] <axemen|Thomas> Amphi: i installed a 64 bit version for AMD processors i think, maybe i can install a 32 bit amd version instead?
[02:47] <amphi> nemik: sudo lspci
[02:47] <jinho326> Phlosten: hmm, no I went strait to the flgrx drivers, how do the vesa drivers differ?
[02:47] <djk_> yipe: in a terminal type uptime
[02:47] <axemen|Thomas> amphi: not quite sure how these things work
[02:47] <yipe> thanks:)
[02:47] <Warbo> Klick_: "oprhaned" means that you didn't ask for them to be installed, something else needed them. Now you don't need them any more, but you may like them anyway (for example, if you install java for firefox it will install java, get rid of java for firefox you don't technically need java, but you may still want it)
[02:47] <amphi> axemen|Thomas: I have no idea what contortions you need to go through, but that might be it
[02:47] <Phlosten> jinho326, try the 'vesa' driver, the vesa driver is a generic video driver that should work on everything
[02:47] <nemik> amphi, realtek ehternet controller
[02:48] <amphi> nemik: 8139?
[02:48] <yipe> 2 days, 20 hours:)
[02:48] <jinho326> Phlosten: will I lose anything though?
[02:48] <Phlosten> jinho326, it has no 3d acceleration support tho, but might narrow it down to a driver problem
[02:48] <amphi> yipe: ?
[02:48] <Klick_> gotcha, thanks
[02:48] <yipe> that's my current uptime
[02:48] <jinho326> Phlosten: in terms of quality? Oh, I see what you mean now
[02:48] <nemik> amphi, yes 8139
[02:48] <Phlosten> jinho326, no, it will just try to initialise your video card differently
[02:48] <King-of-no-pants> back
[02:48] <jinho326> Phlosten: alright I'll try that
[02:48] <jinho326> Phlosten: thanks for the help mate!
[02:48] <yipe> and also the time since I reinstalled ubuntu so I could repartition my HD
[02:48] <Orborde> What DNS client package does Ubuntu use?
[02:48] <amphi> nemik: try sudo modprobe 8139too and then do sudo ifconfig -a and see if the interface is there
[02:49] <Phlosten> jinho326, try it first, if it works with vesa then it is more than likely a driver issue of some sort
[02:49] <jinho326> Phlosten: gotcha!
[02:50] <nemik> amphi, yes thank you! it is running now
[02:50] <carbo> help.. sudo is supposed to ask for my password right? its not doing that, it just runs and that looks kinda insecure
[02:50] <nalioth> carbo: when was the last time you used sudo? it has a 15 minute lifespan
[02:50] <Phlosten> carbo, if you have already provided a password for a previous sudo login within a certain amount of time it wont ask for password again
[02:50] <Warbo> carbo: Have you messed around with sudoers? If you type it once it will remember for a short time as well
[02:51] <nemik> amphi, but things are still really bad; pushing up for previous entered command gives unknown key errors. should i try dist-upgrade all over again?
[02:51] <amphi> nemik: does grep 8139too /etc/modules show anything?
[02:51] <carbo> i know it has a 15 minute timer... but I just rebooted... also i tried to clear the thing with sudo -k or whatever it is, but it still doesn't ask for my password
[02:51] <SirKillalot> is there a program which can control my sound volume? (to bind it to keyboard shortcuts)
[02:51] <Warbo> There is a command to tell sudo to forget isn't there?
[02:51] <_jason> sudo -k
[02:52] <Warbo> carbo: If you have used visudo to play around with settings you may have permanent root access
[02:52] <Phlosten> SirKillalot, System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts?
[02:52] <nemik> amphi, the eth0 interface came back up. i did dhclient eth0; got an IP and can apt-get now. anything in particular you would recommend?
[02:52] <carbo> Warbo: yeah i did the forget thing but it doesn't work. I did add myself to sudoers cos previously i couldn't use sudo at all..
[02:52] <Orborde> What DNS client package does Ubuntu use? And how would I go about flushing the DNS cache?
[02:52] <trainstroker> i built and installed the xvid codec, so now all i have to do is open a movie player and it will work. or do i need to register it somehow
[02:52] <SirKillalot> Phlosten, doesnt work for me, it changes the volume of the false sound channel
[02:52] <SirKillalot> my volume is managed by PCM
[02:52] <_jason> carbo: can you paste the output of 'groups'?
[02:53] <carbo> _jason: carbo adm dialout cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner hamachi
[02:53] <_jason> carbo: why are you in the sudo group?  that's the reason
[02:53] <amphi> nemik: does grep 8139too /etc/modules show anything?
[02:53] <Warbo> carbo: Aha! Same as me. I am not the first user on my box, and I deleted the others. I then couldn't do anything as super user (not even add myself to admin) so I used single user mode to edit sudoers. Now I have root access with no password.
[02:53] <_jason> carbo: the proper group to be in is 'admin'
[02:53] <nemik> amphi: yes it is fine now
[02:54] <carbo> _jason: i'm not sure why i'm in those groups... okay i'll change it
[02:54] <Warbo> carbo: Although I am not root (if I do apt-get I get erors, but sudo apt-get works with no password)
[02:54] <amphi> nemik: what is fine? '8139' is in /etc/modules?
[02:54] <_jason> carbo: just make sure you /etc/sudoers contains the %admin line before you do that :P
[02:54] <Phlosten> SirKillalot, is your default soundcard set correct in 'Sound Preferences'?
[02:54] <carbo> Warbo: yeah that's the behaviour i'm getting. not root, but sudo doesn't ask for pw
[02:54] <djtansey> dapper is going to be supported for 3/5 years (desktop/server.) will the next release be supported for the same length of time? If not, how are people supposed to know which will have extended support?
[02:54] <nemik> amphi: yes. and I have an IP and the box is connceted to the internet. do you recommend me doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again?
[02:55] <nemik> djtansey: no next one will not. i guess it can be on the website how long each is supported and it will certiainly be printed on the manufactured CD's
[02:55] <Warbo> carbo: I would like to know how to fix that, but I'm not on my box at the moment (in case anyone is trying to hack me at the moment, you can't get root :))
[02:55] <paul__> Phlosten:hey
[02:56] <carbo> _jason: okay sorry how do i remove myself from a group? the users-admin thing doesn't list the group sudo so i have to do it manually
[02:56] <paul__> Phlosten:this is jinho
[02:56] <hadix> what is the name of ubuntu forum channel?
[02:56] <paul__> Phlosten: so i was able to get back on...thanks to the vesa drivers
[02:56] <_jason> carbo: first, 'sudo adduser your_username admin', then 'sudo deluser your_username sudo'
[02:56] <amphi> nemik: you could try, after an apt-get update
[02:56] <djtansey> nemik: but it won't be some obvious pattern, like every other one. or every third one. or every forth one?
[02:56] <bimberi> djtansey: next release will have 18 months support.  I don't know what the policy for which releases get extended support but they will overlap
[02:56] <FlannelKing> hadix: I don't believe there is one
[02:56] <Phlosten> paul__, ah-ha, so it is a driver problem
[02:56] <paul__> Phlosten: but now, what should I do, the video quality is absolute crap...
[02:56] <bimberi> hadix: #ubuntuforums
[02:56] <_jason> carbo: actually, first paste the resutl of 'sudo cat /etc/sudoers | grep admin'
[02:56] <hadix> aha
[02:57] <Phlosten> paul__, yes, unfortunately vesa is pretty ordinary, but at least it narrowed it down to a single problem area
[02:57] <nemik> djtansey: at this point i'm not sure. though i'm guessing ever 2 years such an 'enterprise' release will come out
[02:57] <hadix> I do not remember "s" lol ;)
[02:57] <paul__> Phlosten: yeah...so which drivers should I use?
[02:57] <trainstroker> what is CVS???
[02:57] <carbo> _jason: thanks it works! yeah i added %admin to sudoers with all permissions, is that right?
[02:57] <_jason> carbo: yeah
[02:57] <djtansey> nemik: thanks. just wanted to know. look forward to dapper and to a more edgy dapper+1 release.
[02:57] <bimberi> !cvs
[02:57] <ubotu> from memory, cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[02:57] <Phlosten> paul__, what sort of video card are you using?
[02:58] <amphi> trainstroker: apt-cache show cvs
[02:58] <nemik> djtansey: me too; though dapper has just scared me big-time. but i think they'll polish it up by release
[02:58] <paul__> Phlosten: ati 9200
[02:58] <trainstroker> amphi: phillip@ubuntu:~$ apt -cache show cvs
[02:58] <trainstroker> bash: apt: command not found
[02:58] <amphi> paul__: that card is supported by the xorg driver, according to man radeon
[02:59] <djtansey> nemik: why, what did it do? i just hope it has good laptop support (i.e. docking/undocking, external monitors, etc.)
[02:59] <amphi> trainstroker: that's not what I suggested to you
[02:59] <trainstroker> ?
[02:59] <Phlosten> paul__, one sec
[02:59] <_jason> trainstroker: apt-cache contains no spaces
[02:59] <paul__> Phlosten: so if I used the dpkg-command, which one would I picK?
[02:59] <trainstroker> apt -cache show cvs
[02:59] <amphi> trainstroker: _look_ at what I typed, and what you typed
[02:59] <Phlosten> amphi, by what driver?
[03:00] <trainstroker> oooo theres no space
[03:00] <jadacyru1> if i wanna design my own login manager, where would I find a tutorial or specifications of some kind?
[03:00] <trainstroker> sorry
[03:00] <amphi> Phlosten: er, radeon
[03:00] <amphi> trainstroker: heh
[03:00] <Phlosten> amphi, :)
[03:00] <nemik> djtansey: i wouldn't dare try it on my laptop at this point. breezy works beautifully on it. but i tried doing an apt-get dist-upgrade and it messed up; BAD. if you wanna try it; i would suggest a clean install. but don't do dist-upgrade and expect it to be easy
[03:00] <Warbo> jadacyru1: Your own entire program, or your own theme?
[03:00] <Phlosten> paul__, try the radeon driver then
[03:00] <paul__> from Ati?
[03:00] <nemik> djtansey: btw, i tried the dist-upgrade on my desktop not my laptop
[03:01] <amphi> paul__: no, the xorg (Free) driver
[03:01] <paul__> Phlosten: it will be listed as xorg in the choices then?
[03:01] <amphi> paul__: have a look at man radeon
[03:01] <Phlosten> paul__, type 'man radeon' in a terminal to see what amphi means
[03:01] <djtansey> nemik: to be honest, i'm considering doing a clean dapper beta install this weekend. i just have to make sure i have an up-to-date backup of it that isn't missing some files. (a couple years back did a clean install of my machine but forgot my gnupg keys...)
[03:01] <paul__> kk
[03:02] <Phlosten> paul__, and yes it should be there in your choice of options
[03:02] <amphi> nemik: you must expect b0rkage with an unstable version
[03:02] <djtansey> nemik: this time around i'm finally going to switch to my own /home partition... i just never wanted to before (on this laptop) because the harddrive isn't that huge.
[03:02] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: im back, I just had another random restart on my linux system, and my IRC started acting up at the same time
[03:02] <nemik> amphi: yes that's true. its just what i've been hearing about flight 5 made it seem super easy and stable
[03:02] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: This is the second time when my IRC kicked me off on the laptop, when my desktop linux crashed
[03:02] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: I imagine a random reboot would make everything 'act up' ;)
[03:02] <Phlosten> King-of-no-pants, no details in logs?
[03:03] <King-of-no-pants> phlosten: I'll check em
[03:03] <paul__> Phlosten: ah I see
[03:03] <djtansey> nemik: btw, how do you backup your home directory?
[03:03] <paul__> Phlosten:thanks, I'll give that a shot
[03:03] <paul__> Phlosten: for a second I thought man radeon was someone's name
[03:03] <Phlosten> paul__, let us know how it goes
[03:03] <paul__> Phlosten:lol
[03:03] <paul__> Phlosten: will do
[03:03] <nemik> djtansey: if i were to, i would load cp -rf /home to my 320 GB drive. :D
[03:04] <dj-fu> djtansey, tar -cfj /media/backupdrive/backup.tar.bz2 /home/$USER
[03:04] <King-of-no-pants> phlosten: I've got a bunch of "wireless event too big"
[03:04] <djtansey> nemik: yeah. probably the best. i used to have a nice diff script setup. lost it sometime...
[03:04] <Phlosten> King-of-no-pants, nothing else?
[03:05] <djtansey> dj-fu: thanks. i'll do that and exclude my music/images/etc directories so i don't waste time encrypting them
[03:05] <King-of-no-pants> phlosten: no, there is a ton of stuff in here
[03:05] <Phlosten> King-of-no-pants, did your computer totally reset, or just x?
[03:05] <trainstroker> how do i know the password to a cvs thingy
[03:05] <King-of-no-pants> phlosten: what log shoudl I look at? total reset
[03:05] <dj-fu> djtansey, nod, I hope you have a powerful processor
[03:05] <Phlosten> King-of-no-pants, maybe the kernel one
[03:05] <amphi> nemik: cp -a is nice ;)
[03:06] <paul__> Phlosten: sorry, but I dont see the xorg option in the reconfigure wizard
[03:06] <djtansey> dj-fu: nope. thinkpad x40. 1.2ghz. but i got nothing else to do tonight...
[03:06] <amphi> paul__: huh?
[03:06] <nemik> amphi; cp -a exits!? oh man. yea i'm relatively new to linux. been at it hardcore and fulltime but you learn something new every day. thanks!
[03:06] <Phlosten> paul__, one sec
[03:07] <paul__> amphi: I opened the dpkg-reconfigure xerver-xorg command and while trying to choose the drivers, its not in there...
[03:07] <amphi> nemik: see man cp, -a may not mean what you think it means ;)
[03:07] <paul__> amphi: is it in a repository?
[03:07] <trainstroker> how do i know the password to a cvs thingy
[03:07] <amphi> paul__: radeon isn't there? then go with ati, it'll use the same driver AFAIK
[03:07] <nemik> amphi: hehe when this apt monstrosity ever finishes; i'll be sure to check
[03:07] <Jinkguns> How do I make it so the module ndiswrapper is loaded on bootup?
[03:07] <paul__> amphi: oh, hte name is supposed to be radeon, not xorg?
[03:08] <tonyyarusso> ablyss: Very handy.
[03:08] <ablyss> :-)
[03:08] <amphi> paul__: sorry, choose ati
[03:09] <Phlosten> paul__, go the ati driver
[03:09] <paul__> Phlosten: amphi:gotcha
[03:09] <Whyvas> any pxe buffs out there?
[03:09] <trainstroker> how do i go about doing that?
[03:09] <amphi> trainstroker: why send me that url?
[03:10] <trainstroker> how do i handle cvs?
[03:10] <King-of-no-pants> phlosten: what should I be looking for?
[03:10] <amphi> trainstroker: man cvs might be a place to start; there are tutorials all over the web
[03:10] <FlannelKing> trainstroker: why cvs?
[03:10] <trainstroker> thats what a tut said to do
[03:11] <jadacyru1> just my own theme
[03:11] <jadacyru1> Warbro: sorry mt internet keeps dropping out di you respond to me?
[03:11] <paul__> phlosten: do I need to do a total system reboot, or is pressing ctrl+alt+bksp and relogging in good enough?
[03:11] <Phlosten> King-of-no-pants, kernel panic
[03:11] <amphi> paul__: no need to reboot
[03:11] <djtansey> dj-fu: general question: do i need to keep my .gconf, .gnome, .gnome2 directories to keep my evolution settings?
[03:11] <Phlosten> paul__, ctrl-alt-backspace at the gdm should be enough
[03:11] <amphi> paul__: you might need to do /etc/init.d/gdm restart, dunno, I don't use gui login
[03:12] <nemik> does replacing portmap usually take a long time in apt-get? mine seems stuck at it
[03:12] <paul__> amphi: waht would that do?
[03:12] <amphi> paul__: restart gdm ;)
[03:12] <Phlosten> paul__, log out of gnome, and at the login hit ctril-alt-backspace, that restarts gdm
[03:12] <kiko0123> http://apr19.imgshare.us/kvyy.png anyone have an idea how can i fix this error ? my keyboard dosent want to set properly to Canadian Multilingual
[03:12] <amphi> paul__: listen to Phlosten ;)
[03:12] <dj-fu> djtansey, I'd suggest doing so - especially if you are just reinstalling, if you are upgrading - maybe not.
[03:12] <paul__> so that would be like pressing ctrl-alt-bksp twice?
[03:13] <Phlosten> paul__, yes, spose do
[03:13] <Phlosten> so
[03:13] <trainstroker> amphi: im trying cvsage but it prompts for password?
[03:13] <djtansey> dj-fu: yeah... i probably have to. but i like to have as clean of slates as possible... oh well.
[03:13] <paul__> kk
[03:13] <King-of-no-pants> phlosten: there doesn't appear to be any kernel panic messages
[03:14] <Phlosten> King-of-no-pants, might be a very obscure reason for resetting, and if you have a hardware issue there may not be any :/
[03:14] <King-Of-Pants> phlosten: yep
[03:14] <amphi> djtansey: x40, is that one of the small ones, 12" panel?
[03:14] <paul__> phlosten: it told me that "the greeter program seemed to crash, opening with a new GUI"
[03:14] <paul__> phlosten:...well not word for word, but somethign along those lines
[03:14] <Phlosten> King-of-no-pants, my PC would not start yesterday because of dust :/
[03:14] <kiko0123> http://apr19.imgshare.us/kvyy.png anyone have an idea how can i fix this error ? my keyboard dosent want to set properly to Canadian Multilingual
[03:14] <paul__> phlosten: but i was able to get back in
[03:14] <Phlosten> paul__, thats ok, is it looking better?
[03:15] <King-Of-Pants> I've got something you guys can help me with.  I accidently set gaim to start at startup, how do I disable that?
[03:15] <djtansey> amphi: yup
[03:15] <paul__> phlosten: yeah the background is noticably better
[03:15] <amphi> djtansey: nice, I'm on a t42 here
[03:15] <paul__> phlosten: so I guess its fixed =)
[03:15] <Phlosten> paul__, excellent
[03:15] <patrick24601> can anybody recommend a good graphical ftp client?
[03:15] <paul__> phlosten: thanks phlosten!
[03:15] <paul__> amphi: thanks amphi!
[03:15] <amphi> patrick24601: gftp is popular
[03:15] <swa> patrick24601, sudo apt-get install gftp
[03:15] <dj-fu> Nautilus' built in ftp works alright
[03:16] <Phlosten> patrick24601, gftp is about the best there is, although it isnt terribly good, I personally use the fireftp plugin for firefox
[03:16] <djtansey> amphi: ah. wonderful thinkpads. best decision i ever made (well... excepting a few)
[03:16] <patrick24601> thanks
[03:16] <patrick24601> fireftp?
[03:16] <damian_> what would cause my /etc/resolv.conf to revert back to unsaved changes after i make modifications (the mods stick for about 5mins)
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> I just hope the ThinkPad reputation doesn't die as the connection to IBM weakens.
[03:16] <nemik> djtansey and amphi: those are both nice. my next computer will be a thinkpad. but for now my dell 700m is doing super
[03:16] <amphi> djtansey: yeah, I'm a big fan of stinkpads - I hope Lenovo keeps up the good work
[03:16] <Phlosten> patrick24601, check it out in the extensions section of the mozilla website
[03:16] <patrick24601> k
[03:16] <patrick24601> thanks
[03:16] <amphi> tonyyarusso: likewise
[03:17] <djtansey> nemik: dunno the 700m. had the inspiron 8200... didn't work so well with the amount of traveling/backpacking i do
[03:17] <Phlosten> patrick24601, it is nice and simple, great for basic stuff, I found that gftp had problems with transferring large files, or lots of files
[03:17] <djtansey> amphi: i am worried about lenovo, too. i know they're tryign to compete with dell/other cheaper laptops. i just hope they don't sacrifice their enterprise quality stuff
[03:18] <nemik> djtansey: 8200 was terrible. all my friends hate theirs. large and many problems. 700m seems much better built; but its still a dell
[03:18] <amphi> djtansey: with any luck they'll use their own brand for that, and making the tanks for them as wants 'em
[03:18] <amphi> tonyyarusso: heh; adding windows keys would be a disaster ;)
[03:19] <nemik> amphi i agree completely. thinkpads are legendary; i would hate to see them sink to the level of dells/hps/compaqs
[03:19] <tonyyarusso> amphi: They already did!  I mentioned that I think.
[03:19] <djtansey> nemik: ah. well, i guess there is hope yet.
[03:19] <tonyyarusso> Or so I hear.
[03:19] <amphi> tonyyarusso: even shipping them with freedos if they can't ship 'naked' (stupid MS term) boxes
[03:19] <djtansey> amphi: hopefully.
[03:19] <amphi> tonyyarusso: on the thinkpads?
[03:20] <nemik> naked pc's? i sure hope the FCC is on top of this....
[03:20] <cowlikk> hello
[03:20] <nemik> hello
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> amphi: I sent a follow-up e-mail three days later when I heard the Chinese announcement, recommending something small and free like DSL as an easy way to comply with the law and still offer choice.
[03:20] <cowlikk> help me
[03:20] <narg> what is the best way to get a diff in cvs between the last 2 versions?
[03:20] <amphi> nemik: yeah, it'd be sad;have to resort to one of these then, I suppose ;) http://www.tadpolecomputer.com/html/products/mobile/bullfrog-dual/
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> amphi: I read that the Lenovo line has winkeys, not the current thinkpads.
[03:20] <nemik> what is wrong cowlikk?
[03:20] <amphi> tonyyarusso: phew ;)
[03:21] <cowlikk> i need sound on teamspeak and need to listen to music
[03:21] <cowlikk> but i cant
[03:21] <amphi> nemik: the 'naked pc' meme has been issuing from Redmond for a while now, and no, no one seems to care
[03:21] <nemik> amphi: a laptop with a sparc processor?!?! WTF?
[03:22] <Teh_b-rad> jyaaaaaay
[03:22] <cowlikk> hey brad
[03:22] <Teh_b-rad> what up cow
[03:22] <amphi> nemik: no, two ultrasparcs ;)
[03:22] <kiko0123> I don't understand i have my keyboard settinf set to Canadian multilingual and it dosent take effect at all....
[03:22] <Teh_b-rad> ahhh!!!! no hablar ingles!
[03:22] <nemik> amphi: that thing is insane. where can you drop of the depleted uranium?
[03:22] <cowlikk> POOOOF
[03:23] <King-of-no-pants> my connection to freenode keeps being reset
[03:23] <Protocol1> yo
[03:23] <amphi> nemik: heh - no trackpoint though ;(
[03:23] <nemik> cowlikk: you cannot listen to music? like mp3?
[03:23] <cowlikk> yes xmms + MP3 + TEAMSPEAK DONT WORK
[03:23] <nemik> amphi; yea mine doesn't have one either. got used to the pad though
[03:23] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: any idea on how I can stop gaim from starting with the computer?
[03:24] <nemik> cowlikk: what is teamspeak?
[03:24] <Nick5768> www.teamspeak.org
[03:24] <Teh_b-rad> gmmmm
[03:24] <Nick5768> it's a voip program
[03:24] <cowlikk> TALKING PROGRAM FOR GAMING WITH FREINDS
[03:24] <amphi> nemik: the pads are awful IMHO, I've disabled mine
[03:24] <Protocol1> teamspeak is a good program
[03:24] <cowlikk> YEAH VOIP
[03:24] <Teh_b-rad> we cannot run two audio applications at a time without one being unsupported
[03:24] <amphi> cowlikk: you could use the alsa dmix plugin perhaps
[03:24] <eggzeck> cowlikk, I don't know about teamspeak but mp3 does work
[03:24] <Mortuis> When I SSH into a computer, is there a way to pull a file from the remote computer into the computer I'm at?
[03:24] <nemik> King-of-no-pants: perhaps it is in /etc/init.d and you can just sudo rm to remove it.
[03:24] <amphi> Mortuis: man scp
[03:25] <Teh_b-rad> see previous cmment
[03:25] <Teh_b-rad> ^^
[03:25] <amphi> Mortuis: and you don't need to ssh into the remote first to scp files in either direction
[03:25] <Mortuis> amphi: thanks
[03:25] <nalioth> cowlikk: please turn off your caps lock
[03:25] <eggzeck> cowlikk, go to Options->Preferences and set the output plugin correctly
[03:25] <Teh_b-rad> neither of us can run two audio applications at the same time without one having an error
[03:25] <nemik> cowlikk: had that same problem with skype and mp3s. they just don't want to work simultaneously
[03:25] <eggzeck> cowlikk, you might need ALSA
[03:25] <Protocol1> how do I ssh a computer behind a router?
[03:26] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: surely gaim is not started by an init script? is not your gnome session or some such?
[03:26] <Warbo> Protocol1: Get the router to forward ports
[03:26] <Nick5768> Protocol1, port forwading?
[03:26] <Nick5768> warbo wins :(
[03:26] <jimcooncat> Protocol1, NAT the port through
[03:26] <tonyyarusso> nemik: I can't use Skype with any sounds at all.
[03:26] <Jinkguns> GAH STUPID encryptopajdajs
[03:26] <nemik> Protocol1: open the computer's ssh port on the router in the router's setup. what kind of router do you have?
[03:26] <Teh_b-rad> i've tried to change the output
[03:26] <King-of-no-pants> ammphi: i was shutting the system down, it asked me if I would like to save the current configuration, I said yes, now gaim opens on startup
[03:27] <Protocol1> nemik, its a dlink 4300
[03:27] <cowlikk> i have alsa i think
[03:27] <nemik> tonyyarusso: got it working once with both mic and calling. but right after that call; it goes to hell again
[03:27] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: that's gnome's session management, I presume
[03:27] <Warbo> King-of-no-pants: System-Prefs-Session-Startup Programs
[03:27] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: Ill presume that, too
[03:27] <invisage01> www.portforward.com will show you exactly how to do it Protocol1
[03:27] <amphi> cowlikk: you need to have both progs use the dmix alsa plugin
[03:27] <Warbo> King-of-no-pants: Should have been > not -
[03:27] <jimcooncat> Protocol1, once you get it working you might want to switch to something other than port 22
[03:27] <invisage01> Protocol1 just go to the routers section and find your router there
[03:27] <cowlikk> how do i make teamspeak do that
[03:28] <amphi> cowlikk: with a hammer?
[03:28] <Teh_b-rad> i've changed mine to alsa or esd.. when i go to alsa it says there is no pipeline
[03:28] <cowlikk> lol
[03:28] <Protocol1> invisage01, thanks for the information
[03:28] <King-of-no-pants> warbo: I figured it out ;)
[03:28] <cowlikk> i dont have a big enough hammer
[03:28] <Protocol1> i'll give it a shot
[03:28] <eggzeck> King-of-no-pants, yeah right, just thank him :P
[03:28] <King-of-no-pants> warbo: thank you
[03:28] <King-of-no-pants> eggzeck: thank you
[03:29] <amphi> cowlikk: the downside of dmix is it introduces quite a lot of latency, at least for me
[03:29] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: thank you
[03:29] <Warbo> eggzeck: NP (eggzeck: I was guiding him telepathically)
[03:29] <UbuntuNewbie> hello everyone
[03:29] <eggzeck> Warbo: lol.
[03:29] <cowlikk> how do i do that
[03:29] <Warbo> oops, np for King-of-no-pants
[03:29] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: ?
[03:29] <nemik> hehe i like his name too
[03:30] <Warbo> UbuntuNewbie: Hello
[03:30] <rukuartic> !seen axemen|Thomas
[03:30] <rukuartic> Zut.
[03:30] <newuser> looking for a quick way to enable/disable pppoe.
[03:30] <nalioth> rukuartic: don't do that in here, please
[03:30] <Trixy> hey all, I'm new to Ubuntu though I've been a Debian user for awhile. I just did a dist-upgrade to Dapper from Breezy, and I can't seem to get my Geforce 6800 gt working in X. I keep getting the standard newbie "screens found, but none have a useable configuration" message.
[03:30] <Xenguy> newuser: pon/poff ?
[03:31] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: it started crashing when I moved the computer downstairs, that was when I started using the WLAN, I'm disabling the WLAN and going to LAN, maybe that could be it
[03:31] <jadaz87> !tell Trixy about dapper
[03:31] <rukuartic> nalioth: Social fauxpaus? Sorry btw...
[03:31] <Warbo> Trixy: Get rid of nvidia driver and install it from scratch
[03:31] <Trixy> ah, so for dapper help I should head to ubuntu+1?
[03:31] <nalioth> rukuartic: this is a channel for help, not !seen (try in #ubuntu-offtopic)
[03:31] <newuser> Xenguy: k thanks will give that a try.
[03:31] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: the desktop was using wifi? yeah, you could see if wired fixes it - what wireless card? are you using the dread ndiswrapper?
[03:31] <rukuartic> nalioth: gotcha... I'll keep that in mind for future reference
[03:32] <Trixy> Warbo: I've uninstalled and reinstalled nvidia-glx already
[03:32] <nalioth> Trixy: yes
[03:32] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: yep.  ndiswrapper, its an el cheapo Airnet wifi card.
[03:32] <rukuartic> Any alternatives to ndiswrapper?
[03:32] <Warbo> Trixy: I use module-assistant to build it for me
[03:32] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: t3h 3vi1! ;)
[03:32] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: i guess so
[03:32] <Trixy> I'll see how it works, I've only ever used apt
[03:33] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: dunno if that's it, but it's worth a try
[03:33] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: but I need the wifi for this system to do what I want it to
[03:33] <Warbo> Trixy: module-assistant uses apt, but I think it's a little out dated or something now. Works for me though
[03:33] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: get a cheap ralink card that has a decent ghod-fearing gnu driver ;)
[03:33] <amphi> Warbo: what's outdated? apt?
[03:33] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: I have no money, and am not going to buy anything i already have
[03:34] <bytron> Hello, I'm switching from gentoo to kubuntu.  I have an AMD64 processor and under gentoo I would have many problems where I couldn't install a program because it wasn't working with AMD64, masked or whatever.  Anyhow, I'd like to give Kubuntu a try, and I am wondering: Would it help if I installed the i386 version of Kubuntu (if I want to avoid 64 bit problems) or is that not an issue with kubuntu.  Basically, I don't want to run into th
[03:34] <bytron> e 64 bit incompatibility problems, and I believe I can just install the i386 version without issue.  Any advice?
[03:34] <Warbo> amphi: Using module-assistant. I never hear anyone recommend it
[03:34] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: rt2500 cards are about USD20 AFAIK
[03:34] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: and they seem to work well
[03:34] <harisund> Does anybody know what the gnome-pty-helper process does? The longer I leave my computer on, the more the number of these processes seem to crop up.
[03:34] <Nick5768> bytron: i'm using i386 version of ubuntu with athlon 64 and no probems
[03:34] <amphi> Warbo: I've used it occasionally, and it's behaved reasonably well
[03:34] <Warbo> bytron: x86 should install fine
[03:34] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: 20 dollars is alot of money
[03:35] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: especially for something I have
[03:35] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: wifi doesn't come cheap ;)
[03:35] <bytron> Thanks guys, that exactly what I needed to know
[03:35] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: oh, I know
[03:35] <Warbo> amphi: Only thing I can't do is eagle-usb as it needs an active net connection. I can install it from source then break it by upgrading the kernel. (that's why the system I'm on is not Dapper)
[03:36] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: now where were we, with the folding @ home...
[03:36] <Protocol1> wifi does coma at a price
[03:36] <amphi> Warbo: you should only have to use module-assistant again after a kernel-upgrade
[03:36] <Protocol1> come*
[03:36] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: IIRC, the example you had said to stick a line in /etc/rc.local or something; put the line in /etc/bootmisc.sh instead
[03:37] <King-of-no-pants> ok
[03:37] <FoxHound01> how well would a Pentium 4 1.6GHz w/384MB of ram handle Ubuntu (w/Gnome)?
[03:37] <lala> hello :)
[03:37] <King-of-no-pants> hope i can remember where i put it :)
[03:37] <lala> i'm a newbie in ubuntu
[03:37] <disco_stu> I am having some trouble with DVD playback in Totem - I have my video drivers all set up now (finally) but when it goes to the dvd menu it gives me this error:
[03:37] <amphi> FoxHound01: should be fine - if gnome is slow, you can always use a lighter window manager
[03:37] <Protocol1> lala, same here
[03:37] <Warbo> amphi: The eagle-usb is the driver for the modem. You can't use module-assistant with no net connection, and if you use the source you cannot use module-assistant because it will conflict with the installed source. I may set up a temporary wired network from a working Breezy to a Dapper install
[03:37] <disco_stu> Internal GStreamer error: pad problem.  File a bug.
[03:37] <bimberi> hi lala, welcome!
[03:37] <Protocol1> 4 months along here
[03:38] <Teh_b-rad> is there a GUI installer for Dmix
[03:38] <amphi> Warbo: uhuh
[03:38] <kavefish> I'm in the process of switching from Fedora Core to Ubuntu, but my LCD is only working in text mode.  How can I install packages a la yum from the command line?
[03:38] <Xenguy> FoxHound01: should be fine
[03:39] <amphi> Teh_b-rad: no, but the alsa howto at tldp.org describes how to do it IIRC; there may be relevant info under /usr/share/doc/alsa*
[03:39] <Xenguy> kavefish: sudo apt-get install ________
[03:39] <amphi> kavefish: apt-get install <package_name>
[03:39] <Teh_b-rad> sudo dpkg -i
[03:39] <Teh_b-rad> lol
[03:39] <djr> kavefish: Why would you want to use "yum" when Ubuntu has apt as it's Debian based?
[03:40] <Warbo> amphi: Actually I tried it before running a Kanotix LiveCD (which includes eagle-usb) and setting up a connection to Dapper box. They wouldn't see each other though (and graphical tools took an age to load on 400MHz LiveCD system). That's why I reverted the Dapper back to Breezy. Any ideas why it didn't work?
[03:40] <kavefish> Xenguy, amphi: what is the equivalent of the kernel-devel RPM?
[03:40] <amphi> djr: he was asking what the ubuntu equivalent is
[03:40] <biovore> whats in kernel-devel?
[03:40] <kavefish> I need a kernel module build environment
[03:40] <amphi> Warbo: no
[03:40] <djr> amphi: Oh ok
[03:40] <biovore> apt-get install linux-headers
[03:40] <kavefish> cool
[03:40] <kavefish> thanks
[03:40] <Warbo> amphi: Thanks
[03:40] <amphi> Warbo: ;)
[03:41] <FoxHound01> ok, thanks for the feedback, because i have been running Xubuntu Flight 6 on a P4 2.1GHz (1.6GHz OC'd) w/512MB of ram without ANY performance issues
[03:41] <kavefish> off to breath life into Xorg
[03:41] <kavefish> thanks for the help
[03:41] <Warbo> FoxHound01: XFCE uses few resources anyway
[03:41] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: I cant find bootmisc.sh
[03:41] <kavefish> oh, before I go, will all the necessary repo's be enabled?
[03:42] <FoxHound01> right, so i was wondering if Gnome was going to be a "big" resource hog, and whether or not it was going to be an issue, sounds like it will run just fine
[03:42] <kavefish> and how might I enable more from the command line?
[03:42] <bimberi> King-of-no-pants: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[03:42] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: that's what it is here (I'm on debian ATM) - anything that looks likely?
[03:42] <King-of-no-pants> thanks
[03:43] <Warbo> FoxHound01: I have around 300MB RAM and a AMD 2000+ (about 1.6GHz) and I can run GNOME fine with XGL stuff all over the place :)
[03:43] <kavefish> nvm -- google is my friend
[03:43] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: ah, sorry, did I not give the full path?
[03:43] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: yeah, we figured it out, thou
[03:43] <kavefish> cheers
[03:43] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: no crash yet, with the wifi disabled
[03:44] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: locate bootmisc.sh would have found it for you
[03:44] <amphi> King-of-no-pants:  bas le ndiswrapper!
[03:44] <King-of-no-pants> ill keep that in mind
[03:44] <King-of-no-pants> I need ndiswrapper!
[03:44] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: pervert
[03:44] <Warbo> I know Linux talks to itself via TCP/IP for some things, is there any way a PCI network card could screw this up? (I think mine does)
[03:45] <Warbo> WiFi I mean
[03:45] <amphi> Warbo: I don't see how
[03:46] <Warbo> amphi: I get really weird errors when I try to boot. It worked fine at first and I got on the network straight away, but whenever I boot it up with it in since then it stops in text mode with stupid erors
[03:46] <jadaz87> does anyone know of a list of all the unneeded packages in ubuntu because i have a list of all installed packages and it is 19 pages long lol i am trying to get rid of packages on a livcd
[03:46] <eneried> hello
[03:47] <Warbo> jadaz87: Install what you know you want and mark everything else for uninstallation, unless it unmarks what you want installed
[03:47] <amphi> Warbo: wierd errors?
[03:47] <amphi> *weird
[03:47] <eneried> does anybody knows where to find the enterprise edition of Ubuntu?
[03:47] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: the script line didn't work
[03:47] <jadaz87> Warbo i am doing this inside of chroot
[03:48] <Warbo> amphi: It seems like it's loopback network doesn't work. I can't try it now 'cos I'm not at home, but I don't know what causes it
[03:48] <_jason> eneried: no such thing?
[03:48] <eneried> we read and find something about the standard and enterprise edition, but we want to know how to get the enterprise edition now
[03:48] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: you need to adjust it to taste I believe
[03:48] <j0hannes> hi. anybody here who is expert in X?
[03:48] <Warbo> jadaz87: I know, I have built my fair share of Live CDs (with 7zip compression :))
[03:48] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: yeah, i think i have it
[03:48] <eneried> _jason, there's no Enterprise edition?
[03:48] <eneried> but ubuntu page said that!
[03:48] <_jason> eneried: really? where?
[03:49] <amphi> Warbo: check that lo is up perhaps? and that the wifi iface hasn't got 127.0.0.1 by some madness?
[03:49] <Warbo> eneried: There is no "enterprise edition". The regular Ubuntu is good enough for anybody (meant in a good way)
[03:49] <jimcooncat> eneried, there is no distinction
[03:49] <Warbo> amphi: Doesn't let me get to a shell even
[03:49] <djr> j0hannes: Expert in X in what way?
[03:49] <amphi> eneried: ubuntu professional enterprise datacenter server?
[03:49] <harisund> Does anybody know what the gnome-pty-helper process does? The longer I leave my computer on, the more the number of these processes seem to crop up.
[03:49] <eneried> read it here under Enterprise Editions: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases
[03:49] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: i just found that i missed a /
[03:49] <jimcooncat> the crew of the enterprise never had to put up with that!
[03:49] <jadaz87> Warbo what should i do then if i am chrooted? (how do i use the 7zip comression? :-) :-) :-) :-)   )
[03:49] <King-of-no-pants> just an aging problem...
[03:49] <amphi> Warbo: you could boot it with init=/bin/bash and see what you can see
[03:50] <_jason> harisund: it's related to the gnome-terminal, I've seen a bug somewhere about it
[03:50] <King-of-no-pants> dang genetic engineering
[03:50] <eneried> amphi, that sound like windows etc etc etc
[03:50] <harisund> _jason ok cool. So I am safe in killing it, right?
[03:50] <_jason> harisund: I did :)
[03:50] <biovore> rgr
[03:50] <harisund> _jason: Also, what is nautilus cd-burner mapping daemon? I don't have a CD burner at all ! and I definitely don't wantit running.
[03:51] <Warbo> jadaz87: If you are chrooted then I use aptitude (although it is recommended that you don't 'cos it makes loads of temp files, but they are less space than the packages removed by aptitude) for 7zip you need a different version of create_compressed_image
[03:51] <amphi> eneried: I imagine any 'enterprise version' is a matter of support, dunno
[03:51] <dj-fu> 
[03:51] <dj-fu> sweet, auto replace
[03:51] <eneried> amphi, oh i see
[03:51] <King-of-no-pants> im watchin trek at the moment
[03:51] <newuser> Xenguy: are you familiar with rp-pppoe
[03:51] <amphi> eneried: but I could be wrong
[03:51] <_jason> harisund: don't know about that one
[03:51] <j0hannes> djr: who knows about drivers and so
[03:51] <jadaz87> warbo just type aptitude in the chroot?
[03:51] <amphi> eneried: what are you looking for in this 'enterprise version'?
[03:51] <eneried> harisund check the serpentine package
[03:51] <Warbo> jadaz87: I have been looking for a while now for the one I found which did include 7zip, but for a guide that I used you can look here http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Knoppix_Remastering_Howto
[03:52] <tritium_> Warbo: that's not true that aptitude is not recommended.
[03:52] <djr> harisund: look in System->Preferences->"Removeable Drives and media"
[03:52] <eneried> harisund i think this is the nautilus embeded burner
[03:52] <j0hannes> djr: i tried to fix a problem of my x-system which frozes my computer fronm time to time
[03:52] <Warbo> tritium_: Well the places I went to (remastering KNOPPIX) said so.
[03:52] <tritium_> Warbo: that's not our position
[03:53] <djr> j0hannes: Frozes in what way?
[03:53] <harisund> djr: I know. I did that. I mean, I disabled the "Burn a CD when a blank CD  is inserted option" Still it doesn't seen to go. but it is safe to kill, right?
[03:53] <protok0l> hello all
[03:53] <Warbo> tritium_: Well a couple of times a ran a nested X server and used Synaptic from with the chroot. Surely that is frowned upon (come on, I've got to be breaking SOME rules)
[03:53] <Warbo> protok0l: Hello
[03:54] <amphi> Warbo: lamentably conventional ;)
[03:54] <djr> harisund: Should be, I don't know as I have 3 CD-burners attached to my system
[03:54] <j0hannes> djr: no more reactions. the only way out: the power-button
[03:54] <harisund> djr: lol.. ok no problem.. thanks a ton.
[03:54] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: "sudo -u jesse sh -c "cd /home/jesse/F@H; ./go""
[03:54] <jadaz87> Folding @ Home?King-of-no-pants
[03:54] <Mulder> edgy eft is the codename after dapper?
[03:54] <protok0l> does anyone know where i can find a firefox package for the recent versions? its trying to upgrade the old firefox i have and it'll mess up the binary of the new version. google was no help.
[03:54] <jadaz87> !ff1.5
[03:54] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:54] <newuser> anyone familiar with rp-pppoe?
[03:54] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: the first set of parenthesis doesn't exist in the bootmisc.sh file
[03:55] <protok0l> thanks!
[03:55] <djr> harisund: Sounds like the wrong video card driver to me.
[03:55] <King-of-no-pants> jadaz87: yes
[03:55] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: what parentheses?
[03:55] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: er, quotes
[03:55] <Mortuis> How to I specify a public key when using sftp?
[03:55] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: you don't need the outermost quotes, if that's what you mean
[03:55] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: they aren't in it
[03:56] <Jinkguns> Alright, I have a laptop with a DVD drive, a DVD in the drive and I used Easy Ubuntu to install a dvd decoder, but when I click on the drive in "computer" I get "cannot mount/bad fs" error. Any ideas?
[03:56] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: i just typed them now
[03:56] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: so, what are you saying?
[03:56] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: it isnt loading F@H
[03:56] <Warbo> Jinkguns: If you want to play it just choose the drive inside Totem (or similar)
[03:56] <j0hannes> djr: i asked here for possible reasons and was told that it could be the video card driver
[03:57] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: does ~/F@H/go exist? is it executable?; the way to debug this stuff is to run the commands from the command line
[03:57] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: yes
[03:57] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: and yes
[03:57] <Jinkguns> okay
[03:57] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: if go doesn't terminate, you might want to append an &
[03:57] <rukuartic> Any way I can find out what programs are sending out data through an interface?
[03:58] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: ?
[03:58] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: what is the problem?
[03:58] <jadaz87> hello i was wondering what is the ubuntu-standard package?
[03:58] <djr> j0hannes: To fix it you have to edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf  in the Video section
[03:58] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: its not loading folding at home at startup
[03:58] <Warbo> jadaz87: It depends on the standard packages used in an ubuntu installation
[03:58] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: but it works fine if you type the commands yourself?
[03:59] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: yeah
[03:59] <j0hannes> djr: i edited it many times :)
[03:59] <djr> j0hannes" edited it in what ways?
[03:59] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: does it give no error msg when run from bootmisc.sh?
[04:00] <djr> j0hannes: Edited it in what ways?
[04:00] <j0hannes> djr: i changed driver and resolution
[04:00] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: i dont think so, when I type "sudo ./go" into the command line (in the F@H directory), it loads F@H
[04:00] <j0hannes> djr: tried to put the desktop on a different screen
[04:00] <djr> j0hannes: What card do you have?
[04:00] <Trixy> Alright, now I have a real question. I have Xorg displaying properly on both of my monitors, but before I messed with my system my Gnome bars stayed on my left monitor and didn't span across. Also, fullscreen applications only fullscreened to one window. What do I do to make my configuration do that again?
[04:00] <j0hannes> djr: now i'm running the vesa driver and will soon know if it causes the same problem
[04:00] <Mortuis> I have a public key for a server and want to scp or sftp or something so I can log in and browse around and stuff. Is there software anyone can recommend to me to do this?  sftp doesn't seem to have an option to specify a public key to connect with.
[04:01] <j0hannes> djr: an ati mobility radeon 9000
[04:01] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: a) why do you need to use sudo when you are running it as your user? and b) how have you tested starting it from the init script?
[04:01] <AngryElf> hey all, i've got linux-source-2.6.12 installed, but a ./configure script is still complaining about needeing kernel source.....is there another package to install?
[04:01] <djr> j0hannes: In a portable correct?
[04:02] <amphi> j0hannes: the radeon driver should support that (ati in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg)
[04:02] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: i use sudo, because when i run it without sudo, it doesn't work.  B. I've restarted the machine
[04:02] <nemik> so i can't get past GDM on dapper. i log in, get the brown background, screen goes black, then i'm back at the gdm to log in again. what is wrong?
[04:02] <Trixy> come on, guys, someone has to know how to answer my bonehead question
[04:02] <Jinkguns> "failed to find mountpoint for device /dev/hdc in /etc/fstab" when I try to play a dvd in totem, recommendations?
[04:02] <damian_> why would my /etc/resolv.conf reset itself after i modify it?
[04:02] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: it needs root perms to run?
[04:02] <amphi> damian_: dhcp can do that
[04:02] <Warbo> AngryElf: You probable have to tell it where the kernel source is (point it to the linux-headers rather than linux-source) try ./configure --help
[04:02] <Mortuis> AngryElf: I think you need linux-headers-2.6.12, but I'm no expert
[04:02] <damian_> ahh, didn't even think about that
[04:02] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: apparently
[04:02] <damian_> how can i turn dhcp off :| lol
[04:03] <arrick> anyone: Is ext3 supposed to be more stable than all other formats?
[04:03] <suyog> i lost my terminals, except the 7th(graphical) one. how do i get them back? any help?
[04:03] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: ugh - well, then it's obvious why it's failing from bootmisc.sh
[04:03] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: I wouldn't run it if it needs root perms, myself
[04:03] <FoxHound01> does Ubuntu w/ Gnome run better with more ram or a faster processor? (P4 1.6GHz w/384MB or AMD AthlonXP 2100+ w/256MB)
[04:03] <Warbo> arrick: Supposedly. It is supposed to be easier to recover from corruption mainly
[04:04] <King-of-no-pants> amphi:  "./go: line 2: folding.log: permission denied"
[04:04] <djr> arrick: stable in what way? Ext3 works and I like it. <GRIN>
[04:04] <pip> Hello,I need help
[04:04] <suyog> someone, please?
[04:04] <Jinkguns> FoxHound01, usually more then 512mb isn't noticeable, But I'd recommend 512mb at least.
[04:04] <arrick> Warbo, how aout when the partition is reognized, and had files in it earlier today, but now I can seem to find files in it?
[04:04] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: where is folding.log? what ownership and perms?
[04:05] <Warbo> arrick: I don't know. If you lose files check in lost+found in the root of the partition
[04:05] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: we progress ;)
[04:05] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: /home/F@H
[04:05] <djr> FoxHound01: More RAM first, but it depends on how you use the system
[04:05] <j0hannes> djr: yes, a sony vaio. i read that the standard driver would be right. anyhow the system freezed every time i started synaptics for example
[04:05] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: permissions and owner?
[04:05] <FoxHound01> well im fixing computers for a friend, and have those two systems (with different ram (PC133 and DDR266)) so i was wondering which system to install Ubuntu onto
[04:05] <suyog> someone please help me get back my terminals :(
[04:05] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: file owner: root, File group: root
[04:05] <Warbo> FoxHound01: Both :)
[04:05] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: duh
[04:05] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: yeah
[04:06] <CNAP> how long has dapper drake been out for?
[04:06] <disco_stu> what command would i type to find out what version of ubuntu im running
[04:06] <zcat[1] > hmmm -- cs4237 - supported or not? I've found one page that says definately yes, but another page that says no, and no module that works with it :-(
[04:06] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: how can i change that?
[04:06] <j0hannes> djr: or tried do something more relativ to grafics
[04:06] <FoxHound01> Warbo: only if they like Ubuntu on one system, then it will go on both
[04:06] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: sudo chown foo.bar folding.log or whatever it's called
[04:06] <Warbo> CNAP: It's not officially out yet
[04:06] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: ?
[04:06] <j0hannes> djr: running xfce it freezes in between the first minute of running it
[04:06] <_jason> disco_stu: lsb_release -a
[04:06] <arrick> what is the command to change the grp of the folder, sudo chgrp -R admin /home/arrick/etc1 ?
[04:06] <zcat[1] > ahh nm, found something to try :)
[04:06] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: change the owner of the file to your user and make sure you have write perms to the log file
[04:06] <j0hannes> djr: now on icewm i can avoid it by only using xterm :)
[04:07] <pip> Can I play computer games on ubuntu ? such as Football games ,or some big games
[04:07] <defendguin> anyone have an idea of when gaim 2.0 is gonna make it into dapper?
[04:07] <_jason> arrick: yes that will do everything in it too
[04:07] <Warbo> FoxHound01: Just a joke, although people seem to be put off by dual booting. I've always found it really easy and had no problems (but I've always used different partitions since I was 4)
[04:07] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: all the checkboxes are greyed out
[04:07] <Hobbsee> defendguin: it's not
[04:07] <zcat[1] > btw; where did the ltmodem drivers go? they were in warty iirc but don't seem to be working in breezy or dapper :(
[04:07] <CNAP> ok, if not officially out then why is there already another upgrade for that out???
[04:07] <arrick> thanks _jason could remember if it was the correct syntax
[04:07] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: checkboxes??? just do it in a shell alraedy ;)
[04:07] <defendguin> Hobbsee: that stinks
[04:07] <Nick5768> CNAP: it's in beta?
[04:07] <djr> j0hannes: What driver and settings does Sayno or http://www.linux-laptop.net/ recommend?
[04:07] <arrick> ok I got my files back thanks guys
[04:07] <arrick> whew
[04:07] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: I dont know the commands...
[04:08] <FoxHound01> I'm not put off by dual booting at all, I just wasn't going to go through the work on installing WinXP on two dual booted systems only to have them like Ubuntu enough to use it all the time
[04:08] <Warbo> pip: You can play lots of simple games which come with Ubuntu, download extra ones from the repositories, emulate pretty much anythinkg and virtualise Windows games
[04:08] <CNAP> but wait, dapper drake is in beta too... i'm thinking the development versioning methodology is kind of whack at ubuntu...
[04:08] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: open a term, cd F@H, and do chown jesse.jesse folding.log or whatever it's called (and whatever your username is ;)
[04:08] <defendguin> Hobbsee: if people are going to be using dapper until its end-of-life they are going to be stuck with 1.x for a long time and 2.0 is so much better
[04:08] <Nick5768> CNAP: I was referring to dapper drake
[04:08] <Warbo> FoxHound01: I mean people think their system is going to break. I dual booted someone's laptop with Slackware (all I had available at the time) and he treated it VERY cautiously
[04:09] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: you need to know this stuff ;)
[04:09] <Madpilot> CNAP, the post-Dapper version hasn't been released yet, just announced (Edgy Eft, apparently)
[04:09] <_jason> defendguin: isn't 2.0 still beta?
[04:09] <Nick5768> btw ubuntu has perhaps the greatest naming system ever
[04:09] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: Im learning
[04:09] <FoxHound01> Warbo: i hear ya, i think ill just go with Ubuntu on the P4, and WinXP on the AthlonXP
[04:09] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: I'm just new to this stuff
[04:09] <zcat[1] > what's after edgy? farty?
[04:10] <defendguin> _jason: yeah its in beta but so is dapper.  its in beta3 and pretty stable
[04:10] <amphi> FoxHound01: dont dualboot, just run legacy oses under qemu ;)
[04:10] <djk_> Nick5768: debian does.
[04:10] <Hobbsee> defendguin: that is true.  but there are policies already in place for upstream version freezes, etc.  besides, most desktop users (ie, not for servers) will update to the next stable release when it comes out, and will more or less get the latest and greatest then.
[04:10] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: Ive mastered sudo...
[04:10] <Warbo> zcat[1] : Farty Fox
[04:10] <Warbo> :)
[04:10] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: no worries
[04:10] <schtinky> do the logical /boot partitions in my raid1 array need to be bootable or primary?
[04:10] <_jason> defendguin: well the purpose of dapper is to be stable on June 1st :)
[04:10] <j0hannes> djr: what is "Sayno"?
[04:10] <CNAP> yeah edgy eft
[04:11] <arrick> ok, _jason I have mannny music files on my ubuntu server, how do I link to play them in my windows box?
[04:11] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: FWIW, there's a handy 'intro to linux' book you can d/l from tldp.org that covers this stuff
[04:11] <djr> j0hannes: A misspell on my part.
[04:11] <zcat[1] > starting on edgy when dapper isn't even out seems a little premature to me..
[04:11] <SaLoMoN> re
[04:11] <Warbo> amphi: I know someone with Win98 on a pretty powerful computer and I gave him Ubuntu (after fixing Windows) and dd'd his Windows into a file, then told him that he can start his old Windows system by clicking a button. He thought it was great
[04:11] <defendguin> _jason: i would hope gaim 2.0 would be released long before then
[04:11] <SaLoMoN> gn8
[04:11] <amphi> Warbo: heheh
[04:12] <_jason> arrick: possibly samba?  I'm not really sure
[04:12] <j0hannes> djr: ah, ok. sony recommends the windows xp ati driver :)
[04:12] <arrick> thanks _jason
[04:12] <FoxHound01> hahaha, i just realized that i had killed my record with WinXP, it had made it all the way to 15days of uptime, then i bumped the reset button :(
[04:12] <zcat[1] > anyway.. my question? where did ltmodem.ko go?
[04:12] <djr> j0hannes: Someone on "laptop net" has solved to settings problem, I'm pretty sure.
[04:12] <amphi> Warbo: qemu could have used the original partition though, no?
[04:12] <Hobbsee> defendguin: even if it is, it'll probably break things on ubuntu, making ubuntu unstable
[04:12] <cowlikk> how do i use vncveiwer anyone
[04:12] <arrick> Anyone: other than Samba, how do I access my music files over my ubuntu/windows network?
[04:12] <amphi> FoxHound01: 15 days? heh
[04:12] <Trixy> I'm running XGL spanned across two monitors. It's really cool. But is there any way I can make windows snap to only one monitor when I maximize them, and keep all the gnome stuff on the left monitor?
[04:12] <zcat[1] > cowlikk: vncviewer host.name.or.ip
[04:13] <defendguin> Hobbsee: i doubt that
[04:13] <djk_> Hobbsee: how would gaim accomplish that?
[04:13] <_jason> defendguin: you have to find someone who understands the process better than me but I believe dapper is past the point where new software can be added (since this isn't support we can continue in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want)
[04:13] <Warbo> amphi: I didn't want him to run Ubuntu inside Ubuntu, and if he had the option of booting straight to Windows in GRUB he would never go on Ubuntu
[04:13] <cowlikk> vncviewer 192.168.1.1??? like that
[04:13] <zcat[1] > cowlikk: first you need a host running vncserver.
[04:13] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: well, the wifi card is definately the culprit
[04:13] <Hobbsee> defendguin: djk_ doesnt it use different libraries or something?  anyway, #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:13] <cafuego> Trixy: That's a window manager function; I doubt compiz can do that at this stage.
[04:13] <cowlikk> my bro's comp
[04:13] <nemik> how would i fix "FAILED TO INITIALIZE HAL!" in gnome; i can only enter gnome using failsafe....
[04:14] <Trixy> thanks cafuego.
[04:14] <defendguin> Hobbsee: gaim 1.x is crappy at best it cant handle a laptop going into suspend.  it crashes when you bring the laptop back up.
[04:14] <amphi> Warbo: ah
[04:14] <zcat[1] > cowlikk: yeah, that should work. also helps if there are no firewalls or stuf in the way :-)
[04:14] <defendguin> Hobbsee: let me find the bug that is killing me
[04:14] <cowlikk> he has a router
[04:14] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: not the card, probably, but the evil Redmondian driver in its plain wrapper
[04:14] <Warbo> nemik: Does your regular bootup work? I've only had that message when running /etc/init.d/gdm start from a single user mode
[04:14] <zcat[1] > bro's comp is running 'doze?
[04:14] <FoxHound01> when my Xubuntu system attempts to boot, it always stops doing anything and says "booting the kernel..... ok!" how can i fix that?
[04:14] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: well, yeah
[04:15] <defendguin> Hobbsee: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gaim/+bug/32668
[04:15] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: try not to shove binary blobs up your kernel ;)
[04:15] <nemik> warbo: no, regular bootup just displays background then goes back then takes me back to gdm; over and over again
[04:15] <shentu> hi
[04:15] <CNAP> how do you find the uptime of your linux box
[04:15] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: the F@H works... :)
[04:15] <amphi> CNAP: er, uptime(1)
[04:15] <_jason> CNAP: 'uptime'
[04:15] <zcat[1] > CNAP: 'uptime' should work
[04:15] <FoxHound01> i use GkrellM
[04:15] <Xenguy> CNAP: type uptime
[04:15] <Xenguy> ;-
[04:15] <Xenguy> )
[04:15] <djr> FoxHound01: You don't unless you want to remake the entire startup system.
[04:15] <shentu> anybody know how to disable x-server on startup?
[04:15] <defendguin> Hobbsee: as far as i know it was built on 2.14 i cant see why is would use a different library
[04:15] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: and you've met chown(1) ;)
[04:16] <amphi> shentu: update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[04:16] <Warbo> nemik: Well if you use the recovery mode bootup and start GNOME you will get that message about HAL. The recovery mode doesn't start a load of services (that's the point of recovery mode) including the hotplug/HAL daemon
[04:16] <zcat[1] > shentu: unplug the mouse, seems to kill it nicely :)
[04:16] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: i see i have
[04:16] <amphi> shentu: er, with sudo in front
[04:16] <CNAP> Xenguy, oh CNAP ! that was easy ;-)
[04:16] <FoxHound01> djr: and how would i remake the entire startup system? (what does it involve, and does it erase everything?)
[04:16] <amphi> CNAP: and what did it reveal?
[04:16] <j0hannes> djr: there are two sites containing information about my laptop model. both dont report problems with grafics
[04:17] <nemik> Warbo: also i'm on dapper if that helps any. but why won't it go in and is just kicking me back to gdm?
[04:17] <CNAP> 22:15:32 up 8 days,  4:54,  2 users,  load average: 4.02, 3.73, 3.07
[04:17] <CNAP> can we break this down? why is there 2 users? when i type "users" i only get my user name.
[04:17] <amphi> CNAP: why is your load avg that high?
[04:17] <arrick> Anyone: other than Samba, how do I access my music files over my ubuntu/windows network?
[04:17] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: and gaim doesn't startup anymore
[04:17] <amphi> CNAP: type who
[04:17] <CNAP> also what are the numbers next to load average mean?
[04:17] <zcat[1] > shentu: or mv /etc/rc2.d/S19gdm /etc/rc2.d/K19gdm (number from memory, also might be kdm or xdm if you don't use gnome)
[04:17] <djr> FoxHound01: You'd have to edit the initrd and build a custom kernel
[04:17] <CNAP> amphi: pts/0 is the other user acount
[04:17] <Hobbsee> defendguin: it may be brought in, like networkmanager was, i dont know.  but i wouldnt hold my breath over it
[04:18] <Eighth> i just plugged my 200G (1 part, ext3) drive into my newly reloaded ubuntu box and it's not being recognized as valid.
[04:18] <shentu> amphi, I just want to temporary to disable xserver to update video card driver. if I use your method, will I uninstall xserver permenantly?
[04:18] <amphi> CNAP: moreorless, they are the number of programs in 'ready to run' state, ie. waiting for a timeslice
[04:18] <MistaED> what is networkmanager?
[04:18] <Eighth> i am getting "Disk /dev/hdg doesn't contain a valid partition table
[04:18] <Eighth> "
[04:18] <Warbo> nemik: Well sometimes in Dapper GDM crashes on me and I get a message "trying another program" and I get a more basic login screen. Your problem sounds more like something going wrong with gnome startup. There is a file /home/username/.gnome2/gnome-session (I think) which has any extra startup programs. Disable those if there are any.
[04:18] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: can I uninstall the 'ol ndiswrapper, and try it again?
[04:18] <FoxHound01> djr: ok, im game for doing it, do you have a page that explains what i would need to do in order to edit initrd and build a custom kernel?
[04:18] <Madpilot> Eighth, you need to mount it, probably - or maybe reformat it
[04:18] <zcat[1] > shentu: ahh.. from a text login "/etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[04:18] <amphi> shentu: no, but you'll disable gui login permanently; you want sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:18] <j0hannes> djr: i'll try radeon as driver instead of vesa
[04:18] <Eighth> reformatting is not an option
[04:18] <damian_> how can i manually set up ip/gateway instead of using dhcp (perminant) ?
[04:18] <djr> FoxHound01: Something I haven't bothered with and I've been running Linux since a 0.9 kernel
[04:18] <Eighth> before the reload, it was working great
[04:19] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: who can prevent you?
[04:19] <tybalt> Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreetings!
[04:19] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: I don't really know how....
[04:19] <suyog> my ctrl+alt+F1 does not work anymore!! any help?
[04:19] <arrick> Eighth, try sudo fdisk /dev/hda
[04:19] <rukuartic> suyog: It takes a bit if your CPU's bogged down
[04:19] <_sHaDe> n8 all
[04:19] <FoxHound01> djr: ok, well.... hmm, because I don't want to lose that system. or is there a way to get into it, and save the few files i need, and then just reinstall everything?
[04:19] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: nor I, I've had no truck with the thing
[04:19] <rukuartic> suyog: Didja disable tty1?
[04:19] <arrick> see if the partition is there by typing p
[04:19] <Eighth> arrick: hda is part of my raid (along w/ hdd)
[04:19] <iLLf8d> hey all is there a way to use debian as an installer for ubuntu?
[04:19] <suyog> no, i didn't disable any tty
[04:20] <iLLf8d> ie roll deb to ubu
[04:20] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: now i cant open the package manager
[04:20] <amphi> CNAP: the 3 laod avg values are for the past 1, 5, & 15 minutes
[04:20] <CNAP> amphi: 4.02, 3.73, 3.07 are the number of programs ready to run??
[04:20] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: it says atp-get is running
[04:20] <CNAP> oh ok
[04:20] <djr> FoxHound01: Sure boot a Live CD and copy what you want to save to a safe location.
[04:20] <iLLf8d> for some reason the deb installer works and the ubuntu one doesn't
[04:20] <Warbo> iLLf8d: I broke my Debian this way.
[04:20] <CNAP> amphi: do you know what pts/0  is?
[04:20] <suyog> and my system is not bogged down. but all terminals except f7 do not work anymore
[04:20] <_jason> amphi: for the load values in 'uptime', what are the units?  what man page contains the info?
[04:20] <amphi> CNAP: basically, you have 4 progs being busy, it seems; top would show them to you
[04:20] <rukuartic> suyog: Whats the last thing you did before it stopped working?
[04:21] <fensta> hey guys
[04:21] <iLLf8d> Warbo, I like deb in and of itself but I was gonna checkout ubu and it wouldn't install
[04:21] <fensta> when is the new rls?
[04:21] <zcat[1] > what's the exact maths behind loadavg? number of procs waiting for system calls or something?
[04:21] <djr> FoxHound01: I have 3 diffent root file systems on my 250G drive
[04:21] <suyog> it happened after i dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[04:21] <_jason> !dapper
[04:21] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[04:21] <shentu> zcat and amphi: Thank you very much!
[04:21] <iLLf8d> Warbo, having trouble fixing it?
[04:21] <Warbo> suyog: Maybe something up with GNOME and/or Xorg config? I got that problem (try Windows key and something. Does that work?)
[04:21] <FoxHound01> djr: ok, thanks, do you think a knoppix cd would do that easily enough? (i already have one burned)
[04:21] <fensta> thx jason
[04:21] <amphi> _jason: not man uptime ;) I think I read it in Bach's 'Design of the Unix Operating System'
[04:21] <arrick> Eighth, is that the one it is not seing?
[04:21] <iLLf8d> Warbo, just make sure you castrate it back enough and you can redeb it
[04:21] <_jason> amphi: ah ok, I'll search for it thanks
[04:21] <amphi> CNAP: you have a terminal open
[04:22] <Eighth> arrick: yeah, i'm getting the "no valid partition table" on hdg
[04:22] <Warbo> iLLf8d: I just used the Breezy install disc (well, it was kubuntu and was still in development at the time)
[04:22] <Eighth> just booted another sys w/ dna linux and it was recognized no problem
[04:22] <amphi> _jason: tDotUOS is a good book, BTW, although old
[04:22] <djr> FoxHound01: I used to use a knoppix as a Rescue CD
[04:22] <zcat[1] > and can someone tell me where my ltmodem drivers went after hoary?
[04:22] <arrick> Eighth, sorry, try that command with the invalid partition
[04:22] <zcat[1] > <sigh>
[04:22] <Eighth> i have the drive running off of a siimage 0680 card
[04:22] <djr> FoxHound01: I used my Ubuntu Live CD last time
[04:22] <suyog> it works fine before the gdm starts. but after gdm starts, the terminals cease existing.
[04:22] <Eighth> arrick: i get no partition information for this drive
[04:23] <amphi> CNAP: it's a 'pseudo-terminal' AFAIK - I don't know much about linux terminal voodoo
[04:23] <Warbo> djr: Does KNOPPIX have LVM?
[04:23] <arrick> type p
[04:23] <CNAP> amphi: like term emulation?
[04:23] <arrick> nothing?
[04:23] <j0hannes> djr: ok, the system doesn't hang. running vesa driver doesn't cause the problem i had with ati
[04:23] <zcat[1] > suyog: 'chvt 1' in a terminal?
[04:23] <djr> Warbo: That I don't know about the later versions
[04:24] <amphi> CNAP: more like the terminal emulator's interface to the kernel's terminal magic, I think
[04:24] <zcat[1] > suyog: ctl-alt-F1 gets a blank screen, or stays in X?
[04:24] <suyog> yes!!! chvt 1 works!!!
[04:24] <Eighth> arrick: nothing... i get drive information, but nothing about partitions
[04:24] <suyog> ctrl alt f1 stays on X
[04:24] <Eighth> it's gotta be this stupid card...
[04:24] <arrick> Eighth, do you know the type of partition you had on it?
[04:24] <Warbo> CNAP: A "proper" terminal as far as Linux knows is a serial device. Any other command line inside Linux is emulating one of these (That's why /dev/TTY are serial devices and TTY are consoles)
[04:24] <Eighth> ext3, 200G
[04:24] <zcat[1] > suyog: ok, problem is something in X is changing what ctrl-alt-Fn does
[04:24] <Xoritor> anyone using dapper (amd64) having issues with nvidia drivers
[04:24] <rukuartic> zcat[1] : Nice catch!
[04:24] <Xoritor> ?
[04:25] <suyog> i see. so, i have to modify xorg.conf?
[04:25] <arrick> its gotta be the card if it is recognized on another computer
[04:25] <Mortuis> Is there a linux version of Win_SCP?
[04:25] <Mortuis> Or equivalent?
[04:25] <Eighth> arrick: what sucks is i seem to remember having this problem before, but i fixed it somehow
[04:25] <amphi> Mortuis: scp ?
[04:25] <suyog> thanks zcat!! u saved me a reinstallation!! :)
[04:25] <Warbo> Mortuis: What does it do?
[04:25] <djr> Mortuis: Check out "gftp" it's close in some ways.
[04:25] <arrick> Eighth, drivers?
[04:26] <cafuego> Mortuis: Places -> Connect to Server ->  Service Type: SSH
[04:26] <Mortuis> Amphi: scp won't let me browse the host
[04:26] <zcat[1] > nautilus will handle scp:// won't it?
[04:26] <Warbo> Xoritor: Dapper recently upgraded nvidia driver and some people are having problems. Try #ubuntu+1
[04:26] <cafuego> zcat[1] : yah
[04:26] <Mortuis> Warbo: It does secure ftp connections
[04:26] <Xoritor> Warbo, no one is answering me over there... so i tried here ;-)
[04:26] <gboutwell> Can't seem to get an isa 3c509 nic to work in ubuntu, anyone have any pointers?
[04:26] <Mortuis> djr: Does gftp let me use a public key to connect?
[04:26] <Eighth> arrick: i thought i had to only load siimage module, but apparently not
[04:27] <Eighth> dunno what other drivers i would need
[04:27] <Phlosten> an ISA network card, have fun
[04:27] <Warbo> Xoritor: Well I broke mine with the nvidia package, so now I am soley using that (I don;t want to upgrade my kernel just for nvidia driver)
[04:27] <djr> Mortuis: Then with nautilus you can just open a "sftp://" location
[04:27] <cafuego> Mortuis: You don't need gftp, in Gnome your file manager supports ssh out of the box.
[04:27] <amphi> Mortuis: sftp perhaps
[04:27] <gboutwell> the module loads, but then networking restart doesn't start the device, ifconfig eth0 up gives that the device doesn't exist.
[04:27] <Warbo> Xoritor: Only problem is Xgl doesn't work now. Oh well, it's too young at the moment
[04:27] <KrakensDen> I've had two hard X crashes in two days [IE, couldn't switch to another virtual console] 
[04:27] <KrakensDen> are there any logfiles I can check?
[04:27] <Xoritor> Warbo, lol
[04:28] <amphi> KrakensDen: what card?
[04:28] <gboutwell> Phlosten: yeah... it works in most other linuxes.
[04:28] <Xoritor> Warbo, yea... i hear ya
[04:28] <arrick> Eighth, maybe a driver for the card?
[04:28] <KrakensDen> amphi, i810
[04:28] <zcat[1] > gboutwell: apart from modprobe 3c50x or whatever? assuming yo already tried the obvious..
[04:28] <djr> Mortuis: Yes I think so.  Note I really a command-line junky
[04:28] <arrick> I dont know
[04:28] <KrakensDen> amphi, well, i825
[04:28] <Eighth> arrick: could be... i'll keep looking
[04:28] <Xoritor> Warbo, i dont care bout it too much but would like to have the ability to play nwn this weekend...
[04:28] <KrakensDen> amphi, but IIRC it uses the i810 driver
[04:28] <amphi> KrakensDen: dunno about that one - does the man page for the driver have any info?
[04:28] <arrick> I had to change permissions and everything on mine, but it was originally ntfs
[04:28] <djr> Mortuis: So I normally just use "scp" or "ssh" to do my transfers.
[04:29] <biovore> sftp ownz
[04:29] <KrakensDen> amphi, didn't check it. Whups
[04:29] <Warbo> Xoritor: Well you can get the nvidia package and give it the option "--x-module-dir=/usr/lib/Xorg/modules" or something very similar. You won't have Xgl though
[04:29] <zcat[1] > rsync is nice. scp has too much overhead on small files
[04:29] <Xoritor> Warbo, i dont care about xgl
[04:29] <Xoritor> Warbo, i just care about glx
[04:29] <KrakensDen> amphi, has nothing about logging
[04:29] <Xoritor> ;-)
[04:29] <arrick> ok guys, Im checking out for the night
[04:29] <amphi> KrakensDen: it may say nothing useful - I had an old s3 card and x hung a lot, and the man page said it was a known issue and had a workaround
[04:29] <cafuego> zcat[1] : scp can use compression.
[04:30] <Warbo> Xoritor: Then use that. Just remembered it's "modules" not "module" though. That's what was up with it
[04:30] <zcat[1] > tar czf - | ssh me@foo "tar xzf -"
[04:30] <gboutwell> zcat[1] : well, if the module loads, why would ifconfig say the device didn't exist?
[04:30] <KrakensDen> hmm- it uses the i915 module
[04:30] <cafuego> scp -z9 foo user@bar:/dir
[04:30] <KrakensDen> yeah, I think I remember that change around 2.6.5...
[04:30] <Xoritor> Warbo, what package the one from invidia?
[04:30] <Xoritor> s/invidia/nvidia/
[04:30] <Mortuis> cafuego: I get "Details: There is no default action associated with this location."
[04:30] <djr> zcat[1] : He was asking for a replacement for "Win-Scp"
[04:30] <Mortuis> cafuego: Cannot display location
[04:30] <cafuego> Mortuis: After doing what...?
[04:31] <Warbo> Xoritor: And be glad that I told you that option. Then you won't have to look through IRC logs in a console. I mean the official ".run" file from their site
[04:31] <zcat[1] > yeah, i know.. nautilus.
[04:31] <Xoritor> Warbo, cool beans superaman... you rock!
[04:31] <cafuego> Mortuis: Did you enter a hostname and suername on the connection you set up?
[04:31] <Xoritor> Warbo, that wont hork anything else will it?
[04:31] <Warbo> Xoritor: I think that was a compliment. Than you
[04:32] <Mortuis> cafuego: places->connect to server   SSH, plug in the IP in server, username in user name, "connect" and nothing happens, so I places->click on the connection listed there and get that error message
[04:32] <tritium_> Warbo: we recommend the ubuntu nvidia packages here
[04:32] <Xoritor> Warbo, lol... sorry im a bit goofy this evening
[04:32] <cowlikk> is there a voip program for linux
[04:32] <Warbo> Xoritor: I haven't had any problems. It's just that the option which gets it to work also restricts it to Xorg only (bye bye Xgl)
[04:32] <zcat[1] > apt-get install nvidia-glx -- too easy.
[04:32] <cafuego> Mortuis: Weird. Can you open a nautilus window, hit ctrl-l and then go to sftp://user@hostname/ ?
[04:32] <cowlikk> that will work with other sound programs
[04:33] <Xoritor> Warbo, no problems there, i just want a bit of nwn for the weekend ;-)
[04:33] <Warbo> tritium_: I've had problems with them and no problems with nvidia .run
[04:33] <Mortuis> cafuego: Where is nautilus located?
[04:33] <cafuego> Mortuis: Applications -> Accessories -> File browser
[04:33] <tritium_> Warbo: please don't advise that here
[04:33] <Xoritor> tritium, if you can tell me how to use the amd64 nvidia packages for ubuntu (dapper) then i would gladly use them
[04:33] <Xoritor> tritium, but the problem is that they DO NOT work
[04:33] <Xoritor> ;-)
[04:33] <tritium_> Warbo: that will install files not under package management
[04:34] <KrakensDen> amphi, any ideas where crash information might get logged?
[04:34] <Abnix> so, something I've never tried to do, what's it take to enable the svideo out on my nvidia card?
[04:34] <Warbo> tritium_: I would be happy not to. Would you be happy to advise me on how to get the ubuntu packages to build for my 2.6.15-18-386 kenel?
[04:34] <Xoritor> tritium, i am aware of that
[04:34] <Mortuis> cafuego: "The attempt to log in failed."
[04:34] <Xoritor> and for mine too (2.6.15-20-amd64-k8)
[04:34] <tritium_> Xoritor: special circumstances are fine, but not in general
[04:34] <Mortuis> cafuego: I know I need to specify my key file when connecting in with my windows app
[04:34] <Xoritor> :-D
[04:34] <kavefish> I would appreciate any advice for installing the proprietary ati drivers.  The installation is failing, complaining that there is no module build environment
[04:34] <tritium_> Warbo: why would you build them?
[04:34] <Elazar> Can anyone in here recommend an editor that's good for PHP development in Ubuntu?
[04:35] <cafuego> Mortuis: ssh on Linux uses files in ~/.ssh
[04:35] <Xoritor> tritium, he was only helping me out so that i can play a bit of nwn this weekend
[04:35] <Abnix> vi
[04:35] <KrakensDen> Elazar, what editors have you tried?
[04:35] <ni_> elazar, emacs
[04:35] <KrakensDen> Elazar, otherwise you'll just get vi/emacs partisans
[04:35] <caturOK> hello
[04:35] <cafuego> Mortuis: Oh, are you only allowed to log in via key authentication?
[04:35] <tritium_> Xoritor: that's fine.  As I said, special circumstances are different.
[04:35] <caturOK> morning indonesia
[04:35] <Mortuis> cafuego: yeah, key and then passphrase
[04:35] <amphi> KrakensDen: /var/log/Xorg.0.log but I doubt you'll see anything useful if it hung
[04:35] <caturOK> :P
[04:35] <tritium_> the _general_ response is to use ubuntu packages
[04:35] <Warbo> tritium_: Sorry but I've had too many problems with the Dapper packages for 15-20 (the 15-18 ones aren't there any more) and I'm probably an expert on nvidia installation since I've had so many problems on so many distributions for so long :(
[04:35] <KrakensDen> amphi, yeah, there's nothing useful there
[04:35] <Elazar> KrakensDen: vi/m, emacs, gphpedit, gedit, kate, glimmer.
[04:35] <cafuego> Mortuis: Ok, you'll need to get the key off windows then and replace your Linux key with it.
[04:35] <tritium_> Warbo: this isn't a dapper channel, anyway
[04:36] <ni_> elazar, eclipse works nicely too
[04:36] <tyler> Hey, when I try to download a .skz file it just tries to open it in Konquerer and is all corrupt.  How do i make it download?
[04:36] <Mortuis> cafuego: I have the key file, how do I replace the linux key?
[04:36] <SD> Elazar, i find jedit nice also
[04:36] <Elazar> ni_: For PHP development?
[04:36] <KrakensDen> SD, if you're down with java
[04:36] <ni_> sure
[04:36] <Elazar> SD: Hadn't thought about that. I've used it on Windows and liked it well enough.
[04:36] <tritium_> Warbo: you may be, but people who try to follow advice they see you giving are likely not always going to be
[04:36] <cafuego> Mortuis: Check the dir .ssh in your homedir.
[04:36] <SD> jedit has many plugins
[04:36] <cafuego> Mortuis: You'll need id_dsa or id_rsa and an associated .pub file
[04:36] <Elazar> ni_: Last I looked at Eclipse, the FTP plug-in was very flaky. Most of my development work isn't local.
[04:36] <Warbo> tritium_: You did notice that I started my response with "a lot of people are having problems but I got the nvidia package to run" then I pointed out what is bad about the nvidia package (besides, the --uninstall option removes it when Dapper has sorted it out)
[04:36] <KrakensDen> Elazar, if you're willing to put in time, Vim or Emacs will probably make you more productive than anything else
[04:37] <Elazar> SD: And in the FTP area, jEdit tends to be a little slow.
[04:37] <Mortuis> cafuego: all I see in there is known_hosts
[04:37] <KrakensDen> Elazar, Bluefish is supposed to be nice
[04:37] <Mortuis> cafuego: in .ssh that is
[04:37] <cafuego> Mortuis: *nod* Just put the windows keys in there then.
[04:37] <Elazar> KrakensDen: I just like my GUI, is all. :P I actually used vim for the quick and dirty server-side stuff.
[04:37] <ni_> elazar, dunno about ftp, but i found that eclipse had a svn piece that worked ok
[04:37] <SD> true true
[04:37] <Warbo> tritium_: I would only really recommend the official one for a 15-18 kernel which cannot be upgraded to 15-20
[04:37] <cafuego> Mortuis: if they're an rsa keypair, make sure they're called `id_rsa' and `id_rsa.pub'
[04:37] <Mortuis> cafuego: does the filename matter?
[04:37] <tritium_> Warbo: please discuss dapper in #ubuntu+1
[04:38] <cafuego> if they're dsa, make sure they're called `id_ds a' and `id_dsa.pub'
[04:38] <Warbo> tritium_: I know, I know. I'm done now
[04:38] <Elazar> KrakensDen: Bluefish appears to be for HTML in particular.
[04:38] <KrakensDen> Elazar, gvim has a gui
[04:38] <dustobub> I just installed Breezy on an IBM T30 laptop, and after the install, both wired and wireless networking worked fine. After doing a dist-upgrade, all networking broke, I can associate with APs but cant obtain an IP using DHCP. Using static IPs doesn't work either. Can anyone help?
[04:38] <KrakensDen> Elazar, da- but it has a PHP mode
[04:38] <zcat[1] > tritium_: is there an #ubuntu+2 for discussing edgy yet? :-)
[04:38] <cafuego> KrakensDen: `cream' is vim with a gui.
[04:38] <Mortuis> cafuego: ah, okay.  They are a keypair but I only needed one when connecting from windows (unless it just found the other, they had similar names), so I'll have to copy the other one over.
[04:38] <Warbo> acat: There is an Ubuntu developers forum
[04:38] <FlannelKing> zcat[1] : you're welcome to bring it to -offtopic ;) we've been talking all day
[04:38] <Warbo> zcat, sorry
[04:38] <KrakensDen> cafuego, tell that to Elazar :)
[04:38] <mram> did you guys heard about Mark planning a new version of ubuntu?
[04:38] <cafuego> zcat[1] : yes
[04:39] <Mortuis> cafuego: Thanks a lot, this has been driving me crazy
[04:39] <cafuego> Mortuis: :-)
[04:39] <Elazar> KrakensDen: Not seeing gvim under Add Applications.
[04:39] <tritium_> zcat[1] : nope ;)
[04:39] <cafuego> Mortuis: In theory, the Places -> thing should work too, now.
[04:39] <ltR20> how do i make it so .torrent files  get open with azureus
[04:40] <Kirk-mythtv> wow - busy place!
[04:40] <SD> when you go Places -> connect to server and you get an icon on your desktop, where is the information that you put in the original dialog actually stored?
[04:40] <Xoritor> Warbo, thanks again!
[04:40] <mox69> how does one disable hotplug on bootup with grub ?
[04:40] <KrakensDen> cafuego, I think it might be vim-gtk
[04:40] <Xoritor> Warbo, ill give that a shot if its not "fixed" before my nwn fest this weekend
[04:40] <Xoritor> ;-)
[04:40] <Warbo> ltR20: If you use Epiphany then it follows your GNOME preferences. Firefox should ask you
[04:40] <cafuego> KrakensDen: 'cream'
[04:40] <dustobub> how can i reinstall all network related components on my breezy install?
[04:40] <KrakensDen> Password:
[04:40] <KrakensDen> Reading package lists... Done
[04:40] <KrakensDen> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:40] <KrakensDen> Package gvim is a virtual package provided by:
[04:40] <KrakensDen>   vim-gtk 1:6.3-078+1ubuntu3
[04:40] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: now I just have to get that nvidia driver working
[04:40] <Warbo> Xoritor: OK, but if you do then keep the NVidia .run file so you can use --uninstall
[04:40] <KrakensDen>   vim-gnome 1:6.3-078+1ubuntu3
[04:41] <corey7> i'm a complete nub, how do i edit a text file..they are readonly when i open them with gedit
[04:41] <KrakensDen>   vim-tcl 1:6.3-078+1ubuntu3
[04:41] <KrakensDen>   vim-python 1:6.3-078+1ubuntu3
[04:41] <KrakensDen>   vim-perl 1:6.3-078+1ubuntu3
[04:41] <cafuego> !paste
[04:41] <KrakensDen> You should explicitly select one to install.
[04:41] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[04:41] <KrakensDen> E: Package gvim has no installation candidate
[04:41] <Warbo> corey7: What are you trying to edit?
[04:41] <cafuego> !info cream
[04:41] <ubotu> cream: (VIM macros that make the VIM easier to use for beginners), section universe/editors, is optional. Version: 0.32-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 799 kB, Installed size: 2776 kB
[04:41] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: no idea about nvidia
[04:41] <tritium_> KrakensDen: don't paste, eh
[04:41] <mram> corey7 they are probably readonly because you need to type in sudo and then the file name
[04:41] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: haven't seen Tennessee all day...
[04:42] <dustobub> corey7, open up a terminal and type "sudo gedit /fileyouwanttoedit"
[04:42] <KrakensDen> tritium_, sorry, I was going to pm it, but there was a linebreak :/
[04:42] <amphi> corey7: sudo nano whatever
[04:42] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: TN?
[04:42] <tritium_> KrakensDen: no worries
[04:42] <Warbo> corey7: If you are trying to edit system settings then you can't do it as a normal user (Ubuntu is secure :))
[04:42] <KrakensDen> tritium_, so only the first line got pm'd
[04:42] <corey7> i want to edit /etc hosts
[04:42] <amphi> corey7: sudo nano /etc/hosts
[04:42] <alnr> i have breezy, apt-get mysql-server gives me 4.0.23, looking for 4.1., anyone know how I could get that with apt?
[04:42] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: he was helping me with it yesterday
[04:42] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: ah
[04:42] <Warbo> corey7: Open a terminal (in Accessories) then type gksudo gedit /etc/hosts
[04:43] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: ubotu probably has some idea
[04:43] <amphi> !nvidia
[04:43] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:43] <mox69> Anyone know the command to disable hotplug when booting? my fresh breezy install seems to be hanging there
[04:43] <corey7> isnt working
[04:43] <Warbo> mox69: Is that wise? Maybe you should sort out the problem instead of just disabling it?
[04:43] <corey7> unable to lookup via gethostbyname()
[04:43] <escobar5> hello, anybody knows why i ain't getting "OK" in the item "starting hotplug subsystem" when booting? my usb devices are not getting mounted automatically
[04:43] <mox69> well id like to get it to boot 1st
[04:43] <amphi> corey7: sudo nano /etc/hosts in a term
[04:44] <paloyme> anyone know how to install a video driver?
[04:44] <Warbo> amphi: Beat me to it
[04:44] <mox69> and im getting the same thin punmpkin esobar is
[04:44] <Warbo> paloyme: nvidia or ati?
[04:44] <cowlikk> HELLO IS THERE VOIP PROGRAM FOR LINUX THAT SUPORTS ALSA\
[04:44] <dj-fu> ekiga, skype
[04:44] <paloyme> its a non-nvidia non-ati vidcard:(
[04:44] <amphi> cowlikk: IRC doesn't support shouting
[04:44] <corey7> its a file in /etc named hosts
[04:44] <mram> cowlikk i think skype is avaible for linux as well wango
[04:44] <paloyme> its an s3 unichrome
[04:44] <tritium_> cowlikk: none of that please
[04:44] <dustobub> sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[04:45] <corey7> thats not working
[04:45] <Warbo> paloyme: I think Matrox have an external driver as well. Pretty much everything else is already in the kernel
[04:45] <dustobub> what do you mean not working
[04:45] <cafuego> dj-fu: Since when does skype do alsa?
[04:45] <dustobub> it should ask you for a password
[04:45] <amphi> corey7: ' ' is not a substitute for '/'
[04:45] <paloyme> i found the driver but dont have any idea how to install the .tgz
[04:45] <dustobub> type it out
[04:45] <joelito> Yeah but does skype has alsa support..? I dunno
[04:45] <dustobub> dont copy
[04:45] <corey7> i am
[04:45] <mram> cowlikk: you can use easyubuntu to get those two software
[04:45] <corey7> i dont have internet on my ubuntu install
[04:45] <paloyme> im a new to linux so i really have no idea how to install in anything:(
[04:45] <Warbo> cafuego: Everything does ALSA doesn't it? Either through a sound server (like ESD), directly or through OSS emulation
[04:45] <joelito> paloyme - as in slackware's tgz?
[04:46] <amphi> paloyme: this is a binary driver?
[04:46] <cowlikk> where is easy ubuntu
[04:46] <cafuego> Warbo: requiring oss emulation != supporting alsa
[04:46] <SD> has anyone been able to access an smb share through the gui, but NOT through the commandline before?
[04:46] <Warbo> paloyme: Then you need to learn your first lesson: Most drivers are already installed. This is not windows :)
[04:46] <Mortuis> cafuego: sadly it's still not working.
[04:46] <paloyme> i have both binary and source, dont know which i should use, so i downloaded both
[04:46] <cafuego> Warbo: That's like saying ndiswrapper isn't an ugly kludge ;-)
[04:46] <corey7> my problem is i cannot open up system-administration-networking, i click it and nothing happens
[04:46] <dustobub> SD, yes, it works pretty well
[04:46] <paloyme> i know, i got so used to windows device manager that im really in the dark here:(
[04:47] <dustobub> corey, sounds like something isnt right
[04:47] <amphi> paloyme: any docs with them?
[04:47] <Warbo> cafuego: But OSS is open and so is ALSA, so they can become 100% compatible by studying each other's internals
[04:47] <dj-fu> cafuego, does oss emulation not count?
[04:47] <paloyme> but im not afraid to walk the linux hardware installation tho, as long as i have someone beside me:)
[04:47] <corey7> i changed the host in networking to nothing and since then i cant open it
[04:47] <Mortuis> cafuego: It's late, I'm going to flog this horse again some other time.  Thanks for the help.
[04:47] <cafuego> dj-fu: nope
[04:47] <Warbo> paloyme: Who makes your card?
[04:47] <joelito> well there's an oss compatibility software for alsa
[04:47] <corey7> and when ubuntu boots, i get an error type message saying to add something to the file /etc hosts
[04:48] <paloyme> yep, theres a readme with the driver, it says about building a viafb module
[04:48] <Elazar> KrakensDen: How exactly do you _use_ vim-gtk once it's installed?
[04:48] <paloyme> its a via s3 unichrome
[04:48] <mram> if i want to setup a server without a gui should i got with ubuntu or debian?
[04:48] <SD> dustobub: i can access the correct server, copy files etc, but the command line mount, no matter how i do it, doesnt work
[04:48] <joelito> enable universe and then run (sudo apt-get update; apt-get alsa-oss)
[04:48] <Warbo> paloyme: try typing "modprobe viafb" into a terminal. If nothing happens then it is already installed
[04:48] <amphi> paloyme: this any use? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76037.html
[04:48] <paloyme> ok warbo, thenks
[04:48] <pip> Hello
[04:48] <escobar5> anybody knows why i ain't getting "OK" in the item "starting hotplug subsystem" when booting? my usb devices are not getting mounted automatically}
[04:49] <paloyme> btw, i dont have any idea what a .tgz is, hehehe is it like zip?
[04:49] <Warbo> escobar5: Does it work without USB devices plugged in?
[04:49] <prospero2005> I used vmware to run ubuntu on top of kubuntu, and a baked potato popped out of my cd drive!!
[04:49] <amphi> paloyme: somewhat - tar zxvf whatever.tgz to unpack it
[04:49] <Warbo> paloyme: It is like a zip, but stores all of the permissions and ownership things that windows doesn't have.
[04:49] <joelito> paloyme: it's the package format for slackware, like a deb
[04:49] <escobar5> Warbo, no
[04:50] <tritium_> joelito: it's not just a slackware thing
[04:50] <amphi> paloyme: it's a gzip(1)ped tar(1) archive
[04:50] <joelito> I think alien can convert it to deb
[04:50] <FlannelKing> yep
[04:50] <corey7> entering sudo gedit /etc/hosts into terminal gets this "sudo: unable to lookup via gethostbyname()"
[04:50] <paloyme> user01@ERI04:~/Linux-FBDev-kernel-bin_20050726$ modprobe viafb
[04:50] <paloyme> FATAL: Module viafb not found.
[04:50] <Warbo> paloyme: Also, go into System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager. That is the best way of installing software (hell of a lot better and easier than windows)
[04:50] <paloyme> FATAL: Module viafb not found.
[04:50] <amphi> joelito: tar and gzip are nothing to do with slackware
[04:50] <cafuego> corey7: Did you change the hostname without also editing /etc/hosts ?
[04:50] <Warbo> paloyme: OK, so maybe it isn't installed then :)
[04:50] <jimmybonds> can somebody tell me how to upgrade ubuntu to latest release?
[04:50] <corey7> yea
[04:50] <joelito> well have you tried installing from slackware's repos?
[04:51] <prospero2005> jimmybonds apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:51] <linuxgeekery> joelito, slackware's package management system (yes, it is tgz files), are just tarred binaries with a setup script to be auto-executed on install
[04:51] <jimmybonds> tried that
[04:51] <jimmybonds> im still running hoary
[04:51] <jimmybonds> i wanna upgrade to breezy
[04:51] <FoxHound01> lol, wow...
[04:51] <prospero2005> jimmybonds it's all in the sources.list file
[04:51] <joelito> well, if the file has that then it can be converted to deb
[04:51] <pip> Somebody want to get some files from my computer ,so I use USB disk to translate them to him ,but after I have moved the files to his computer ,he couldnt use it for he didnot have enough purview.
[04:51] <corey7> i can view the hosts file, it is blank except for the # line
[04:51] <prospero2005> jimmybonds I'm going to help you out
[04:51] <jimmybonds> k
[04:51] <amphi> FoxHound01: 'lol wow'?
[04:52] <Warbo> joelito: Windows uses three letter file extensions (preferably) and DOS can only use that. Therefore for DOS and make Windows happier .tar.gz gets shortened to .tgz
[04:52] <jimmybonds> last time i changed my sources to breezy
[04:52] <pip> why ?
[04:52] <jimmybonds> and reupgraded
[04:52] <jimmybonds> it totally broke
[04:52] <jimmybonds> :|
[04:52] <tritium_> !tell jimmybonds about enter
[04:52] <escobar5> Warbo: any ideas
[04:52] <FoxHound01> i guess i didn't realize that people didn't just upgrade. not that its bad, its just that i have the tendancy to use prerelease software often
[04:52] <paloyme> yep, it isnt installed, right now im trying out amphi's site suggestion
[04:52] <paloyme> hopefully it helps
[04:53] <Warbo> escobar5: Sorry (I'm getting bogged down by replying to too many people and I can't touch type, so I'm looking at my keyboard) Sorry if I missed you
[04:53] <prospero2005> jimmybonds http://www.webloguniverse.com/sources.html
[04:53] <amphi> Warbo: get blank keycaps ;)
[04:53] <Warbo> escobar5: No real ideas coming at the moment
[04:53] <FoxHound01> I am a bit cutting edge sometimes, and so NOT upgrading would be unusual for me
[04:53] <prospero2005> jimmybonds make that your sources.list
[04:53] <prospero2005> jimmybonds then do a fetch updates
[04:54] <prospero2005> jimmybonds then update
[04:54] <prospero2005> jimmybonds got it?
[04:54] <Warbo> amphi: har har. You'd think I'd get it by now, after typing for 13 years
[04:54] <jimmybonds> yup
[04:54] <amphi> Warbo: heh - I can't touch type either
[04:54] <escobar5> Warbo: don't worry
[04:55] <pip>  Somebody wants to get some files from my computer ,so I use USB disk to translate them to him ,but after I have moved the files to his computer ,he couldnt use it for he didnot have enough purview.
[04:55] <escobar5> Any else knows what the problem is??
[04:55] <Warbo> amphi: I can touch type all of my passwords (bloody asterisks. Give me security, why don't you...)
[04:55] <paloyme> is somebody patient enough to explain to me what is an xorg.conf?
[04:55] <Techgsm> Hi everybody , its my first time installing and using ubuntu , i got familiar with this distribution but the problem that i cant access the internet , i have a Thomson THG520 wich can connect through ethernet , i used recommendation in the user guide , i got to administration-Networking and i did ethO and selected dhcp and activated  , but still cant access the internet , please if some1 could help me ill be thankful ):
[04:55] <Warbo> pip: Sorry, didn't get last word
[04:55] <Jinkguns> I have a fully functional linux laptop. ;)
[04:55] <corey7> i just logged off of ubuntu and this is the message i get when logging back in "could not look up internet address for .  This will prevent gnome from operating correctly.  It may be possible to correct the problem by adding to the file /etc/hosts
[04:55] <Jinkguns> Yay.
[04:56] <amphi> paloyme: it's a file in /etc/X11/ that contains the configuration of your x server
[04:56] <Jinkguns> This laptop isn't exactly new, but it's been through iraq, a three alarm fire, and now, linux. :D
[04:56] <amphi> paloyme: man xorg.conf will give you more info
[04:56] <robbie> hi can i have some help with a problem with SADMS
[04:56] <pip> Warbo, OK!he can't do anything with it ,for there is no power.
[04:56] <Warbo> corey7: Yes, that won't affect anything (didn't affect me) but I forgot how I got rid of it
[04:56] <pip> Warbo, I dont know why
[04:57] <pip> Warbo, Could you help me ?
[04:57] <amphi> Jinkguns: what's a 'three alarm fire'?
[04:57] <ubuntu_> _jason you here?
[04:57] <paloyme> amphi: tenks amphi
[04:57] <_jason> ubuntu_: yeah
[04:57] <corey7> it is affecting things, i cant get into networking
[04:57] <ltR20> _jason big problems
[04:57] <ltR20> my ubuntu crashed
[04:57] <amphi> paloyme: if you have a working xorg.conf, it might be wise to make a copy of it
[04:57] <paloyme> how do i do replies in xchat?
[04:57] <Warbo> pip: No power? As in electricity? Does it require an external plug?
[04:57] <Techgsm> Hi everybody , its my first time installing and using ubuntu , i got familiar with this distribution but the problem that i cant access the internet , i have a Thomson THG520 modem wich can connect through ethernet , i used recommendation in the user guide , i got to administration-Networking and i did ethO and selected dhcp and activated  , but still cant access the internet , please if some1 could help me ill be thankful ):
[04:57] <ltR20> it said somthing about a read only filesystem
[04:57] <SD> corey7: try putting 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost ubuntu into the first line of /etc/hosts
[04:57] <ltR20> I/O error
[04:57] <ltR20> so i rebooted
[04:57] <ltR20> and i can't get in grub
[04:57] <ltR20> it says grub error 21
[04:58] <corey7> please tell me how to
[04:58] <Warbo> ItR20: IO error usually means knackered disc.
[04:58] <tritium_> Techgsm: please don't repeat too often
[04:58] <pip> Warbo, No ,he cant do with it any more because he has not any permission to do antthing
[04:58] <Techgsm> i need help
[04:58] <Techgsm> i need help
[04:58] <Warbo> corey7: I think it is your hostname. Did you use one during the install then change it after?
[04:58] <Techgsm> ):
[04:58] <Techgsm> badly
[04:58] <amphi> ltR20: doesn't sound good - try booting of something like the sysresccd.org iso and see what's going on - smartctl is handy for disk diagnostics
[04:58] <paloyme> uhhh. how do i exit from a manpage?
[04:58] <_jason> ubotu: tell ltR20 about grub
[04:59] <_jason> ltR20: checkout what 21 means
[04:59] <amphi> paloyme: q
[04:59] <corey7> after the install i was messing around and made my hostname nothing
[04:59] <Hobbsee> paloyme: :q
[04:59] <paloyme> yeeesh heheheh that easy huh
[04:59] <linuxgeekery> !patience
[04:59] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[04:59] <SD> where is the connection information stored for an smb connection through gnome?
[04:59] <amphi> paloyme: the program that displays man pages by default is less(1) - hitting 'h' in less gives you some help
[04:59] <Warbo> pip: If he uses Linux then sudo will give super user permission (careful when using it). If you know basic terminal commands then you can access files from usb easily
[04:59] <paloyme> less?
[04:59] <King-of-no-pants> linuxgeekery: hey there
[04:59] <paloyme> what is less?
[05:00] <linuxgeekery> King-of-no-pants: hi :)
[05:00] <SD> less is a pager, enables you to read plain text files
[05:00] <mox69> escobar5: im having the exact same problem
[05:00] <mox69> escobar5: on a brand new laptop
[05:00] <King-of-no-pants> linuxgeekery: figured out my crashing problem
[05:00] <escobar5> hello, anybody knows why i ain't getting "OK" in the item "starting hotplug subsystem" when booting? my usb devices are not getting mounted automatically
[05:00] <linuxgeekery> King-of-no-pants: what happened?
[05:00] <paloyme> where can i find less? sori for the questions
[05:00] <King-of-no-pants> linuxgeekery: ndiswrapper
[05:00] <amphi> paloyme: yeah, the older program was more(1) (and did less); there is also most(1) for more features than less
[05:00] <pip> Warbo, After I have moved the files he wanted to his ubuntu ,he couldnt do with it ,no permission.
[05:00] <tritium_> Techgsm: goofball ;)
[05:00] <Warbo> pip: You will want to know: cd /place/where/USBDrive/is (will go to the drive) ls (will list what's there) cp filename /where/you/want/it (will copy file "filename" to "/where/you/want/it")
[05:01] <amphi> paloyme: man less (you get the routine ;)
[05:01] <corey7> is there any way to edit hosts other than sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[05:01] <paloyme> uhhh.. whats with the (1) ?
[05:01] <paloyme> ooohhh!!! hehehe
[05:01] <Warbo> pip: Use sudo "chown hisusername thefilesyouwanttoaccess"
[05:01] <pax> use yelp to read man pages and save yourself the trouble.
[05:01] <mustard5> corey7, sudo nano /etc/hosts ?
[05:01] <Warbo> pip: add a "-R" if it includes directories
[05:01] <SD> no, everyone knows sudo vi is superior ;)
[05:02] <amphi> paloyme: the number in foo(1) means the section of the manpage, eg man 1 crontab describes the crontab program, man 5 crontab describes the format of the crontab file
[05:02] <corey7> gets the same error, sudo: unable to lookup via gethostbyname()
[05:02] <amphi> paloyme: er, section of the manual
[05:02] <mustard5> corey7, you will have to boot up in recovery mode from grub
[05:02] <mustard5> corey7, sudo won't work with a misconfigured hosts file
[05:02] <corey7> okay
[05:02] <mustard5> corey7, do you have a root password set up by chance?
[05:03] <ltR20> _JASON - Selected disk does not exist
[05:03] <ltR20>     This error is returned if the device part of a device- or full file name refers to a disk or BIOS device that is not present or not recognized by the BIOS in the system.
[05:03] <corey7> im not sure
[05:03] <amphi> ltR20: does the bios see any disk?
[05:03] <Warbo> corey7: you can only use things like nano in console. (ctrl-X exits by the way)
[05:03] <mustard5> corey7, by default root is disabled, so do it via recovery mode :)
[05:03] <ltR20> amphi - Yes.
[05:03] <amphi> ltR20: does it spin up?
[05:03] <corey7> what exactly should i do
[05:03] <mustard5> corey7, you want me to point you to a guide?
[05:03] <ltR20> amphi YES
[05:04] <corey7> yes
[05:04] <amphi> ltR20: that's something ;)
[05:04] <amphi> ltR20: you could boot of some linux cd and see if you can mount the / partition
[05:04] <amphi> ltR20: *off
[05:04] <mustard5> corey7, read this thread all the way through http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151941
[05:04] <paloyme> hmmm ok... how do i use less? i typed less in the terminal, and got nothing... also tried less xorg.conf
[05:04] <pip> Warbo, OK! I am trying..thank you
[05:05] <_jason> paloyme: less /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:05] <amphi> ltR20: the sysresccd.org iso is very useful IMHO
[05:05] <paloyme> ohhh ok... i guess i also need to specify the directory...
[05:05] <corey7> thank you mustard
[05:05] <mustard5> corey7, np..good luck
[05:05] <amphi> paloyme: if you're not in it, yeah - never does any harm to specify a full path
[05:06] <pip> Warbo, on his computer or on mine whe I use that command ?
[05:06] <paloyme> aaaa ok i got i got it
[05:06] <escobar5> well, i guess you're very bussy, i'll try some other time
[05:06] <escobar5> thanks
[05:06] <Warbo> pip: On his computer, so it sets the permissions to his username on his machine
[05:06] <paloyme> hahaha, i was confused, i thought less is a program like maybe adobe reader hehehe
[05:06] <amphi> paloyme: it is, sorta
[05:07] <paloyme> now i know, less is executed when you type man xorg.conf, something like that right?
[05:07] <Warbo> paloyme: You may be familiar with "more" from other systems. less is slightly better because you can go back up
[05:07] <Madpilot> paloyme, man files have their own viewer
[05:07] <paloyme> madpilot: wat other viewers?
[05:08] <paloyme> warbo: when you said other systems, you meant other distros?
[05:08] <amphi> paloyme: man xorg.conf creates four processes here ;)
[05:09] <amphi> paloyme: other unices
[05:09] <Warbo> paloyme: I meant other computing systems, I was thinking Amiga but maybe DOS has it (I don't know)
[05:09] <KrakensDen> paloyme, probably he means windows
[05:09] <KrakensDen> paloyme, DOS has it
[05:09] <amphi> Warbo: yeah, dos had more
[05:09] <Warbo> KrakensDen: I don't class Windows as a computer system
[05:09] <paloyme> oh ok, got it
[05:10] <paloyme> amphi: do you plan to tell me the four processes?
[05:10] <paloyme> :)
[05:10] <amphi> Madpilot: own viewer? man will use whatever $PAGER is set to, you can use lynx or w3m for example
[05:10] <KrakensDen> Warbo, but you count DOS?
[05:10] <amphi> paloyme: ps aux would show them to - one has a very long command line I will not paste
[05:10] <Kr4zy4p3> Can Ubuntu be installed on an NTFS file system ?...or does it need a different one ?
[05:11] <paloyme> ok
[05:11] <Warbo> KrakensDen: Well... When it was Q/DOS
[05:11] <KrakensDen> Kr4zy4p3, not really
[05:11] <paloyme> so in ubuntu, the default viewer for man is less
[05:11] <Madpilot> amphi, ah, OK - hadn't really investigated - but the default man viewer isn't less, AFAIK
[05:11] <Warbo> Kr4zy4p3: it can be installed inside a file for an emulator
[05:11] <KrakensDen> Kr4zy4p3, there are linuxes for FAT32
[05:11] <dj-fu> Kr4zy4p3, NTFS write support isn't too flash.
[05:11] <amphi> Madpilot: it is on linux distros that I've used
[05:12] <paloyme> if less isnt the defualt viewer of man, then what did i just saw when i typed man xorg.conf?
[05:12] <amphi> paloyme: less, I expect
[05:12] <dj-fu> although I'm told with the 'captive' system (it loads ntfs.sys with wine for NTFS r/w support) you can have workign write access
[05:12] <KrakensDen> but I don't think any distros ship with that
[05:12] <Warbo> paloyme: They may look similar, but how else would a command line text reader look?
[05:12] <paloyme> amphi: i figured less too since it quitted when i pressed q heheheh
[05:12] <FlannelKing> dj-fu: it's just super unstable
[05:12] <Madpilot> amphi, OK, nevermind - I'm talking out of my arse, I guess :P
[05:13] <KrakensDen> Kr4zy4p3, you're basically going to need to repartition
[05:13] <KrakensDen> Kr4zy4p3, sorry
[05:13] <dj-fu> FlannelKing, what is?
[05:13] <FlannelKing> dj-fu: write support for NTFS
[05:13] <dj-fu> uh, it's not unstable, it just only allows you to write over already existing files
[05:13] <Kr4zy4p3> ah ok, damn..thanx anyways :)
[05:13] <paloyme> warbo: i dont get wat you mean
[05:13] <paloyme> heheheh
[05:13] <dj-fu> (not bigger, not new files -- etc)
[05:13] <amphi> Madpilot: if you do man whatever and ps aux, you'll probably see /usr/bin/pager which is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/pager, which by default is a symlink to less (or perhaps more ;)
[05:14] <Warbo> I think it's evil that people don't know about partitioning 'cos of Windows. Have you ever tried to install a system-heavy game on a different partition? It asks you where to install but still looks in C:\Program Files. I think it's terrible
[05:14] <KrakensDen> dj-fu, not only that, but you can't change the bit length
[05:14] <tritium_> amphi: that's more or less correct ;)
[05:14] <mox69> how would i go about mounting my linux partition from a bootcd ?
[05:14] <KrakensDen> dj-fu, it's fairly useless
[05:14] <amphi> tritium_: heh
[05:14] <Warbo> paloyme: I meant that less does look like the man reader, but there is not much else it can look like
[05:14] <mox69> aka mount /dev/sda2 /mount, but i need soem flags
[05:14] <corey7> mustard, do i only need to put 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost name in the file
[05:14] <escobar5> mox69: look at this links, maybe they are helpful to you: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12574
[05:15] <paloyme> warbo: hehehe yeah you're right... all text readers probably look the same
[05:15] <mox69> thx
[05:15] <escobar5> np
[05:15] <titanium_platypu> anybody here know much about Flightgear?
[05:15] <amphi> paloyme: put yourself out of your misery by doing ls -l /etc/alternatives/pager
[05:15] <cyphase> can the beta go out today?
[05:15] <Warbo> paloyme: And it uses the same keys to be easy for people
[05:15] <cyphase> pretty pleeeeease
[05:15] <cyphase> :)
[05:15] <amphi> paloyme: most(1) doesn't
[05:15] <AngryElf> in general, if make fails because i'm missing a library, and then i install said library....is it necessary to make clean before making again?
[05:16] <Warbo> AngrElf: Can't do any harm. Usually configure would pick that up
[05:16] <amphi> Techgsm: what is your problem?
[05:16] <paloyme> ok i just did ls -l /etc/alternatives/pager, but i really dont know what it does...
[05:16] <Techgsm> Hi everybody , its my first time installing and using ubuntu , i got familiar with this distribution but the problem that i cant access the internet , i have a Thomson THG520 modem wich can connect through ethernet , i used recommendation in the user guide , i got to administration-Networking and i did ethO and selected dhcp and activated  , but still cant access the internet , please if some1 could help me ill be thankful ):
[05:16] <Techgsm> thats it
[05:16] <paloyme> it just outputted -> /usr/bin/less
[05:16] <amphi> paloyme: it should show what the symlink points to
[05:17] <paloyme> oo ok...
[05:17] <amphi> paloyme: which, as you see, is less
[05:17] <paloyme> ogt it
[05:17] <paloyme> got it
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> less is more and more is less. :P
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> more or less.
[05:17] <mzinz> I just configured and compiled a theme for Kubuntu.. but now what?  I did ./configure, make, and make install
[05:17] <Techgsm> amphi so please could y do something ):
[05:17] <amphi> Techgsm: cable modem?
[05:17] <KrakensDen> Techgsm, um. You need to do pppoe, not dhcp
[05:17] <Warbo> Techgsm: Try using a static address of 192.168.0.5 and gateway 192.168.0.1, or if not then 192.168.1.5 and gateway 192.168.1.1
[05:17] <amphi> KrakensDen: not necessarily
[05:18] <KrakensDen> amphi, I just googled his modem
[05:18] <KrakensDen> amphi, it's a cable modem
[05:18] <regulate> techgsm: do an ifconfig and tell me what your ip is
[05:18] <Techgsm> its satellite modem
[05:18] <Techgsm> its satellite modem
[05:18] <Techgsm> no pppoe
[05:18] <amphi> Techgsm: have you used if from another machine, or from another OS on the same machine?
[05:18] <biovore> Techgsm: sat modem..  vsat?
[05:18] <Techgsm> Thomson broadband difital THG520 modem
[05:18] <Techgsm> digital
[05:18] <paloyme> crap, i just did a ctrl+alt+backspace without even asking what it does
[05:19] <biovore> what interface dose it take?
[05:19] <mustard5> corey7, yes, that and your specified hostname, whatever that is
[05:19] <Madpilot> paloyme, well, now you know ;)
[05:19] <paloyme> yeah, heheheh
[05:19] <regulate> its a cable modem
[05:19] <mustard5> corey7, I'm hopeful its self explanatory from the thread instructions
[05:19] <Techgsm> please guys help me
[05:19] <paloyme> experience is the best teacher they say:)
[05:19] <Techgsm> i need internet
[05:19] <amphi> Techgsm: if so, you may need to reset it before it'll give you a dhcp config
[05:19] <regulate> not satellite
[05:19] <bzaks> can someone tell me where to look to change how my volumes are mounted on boot?
[05:19] <Techgsm> amphi tell me how please
[05:19] <Warbo> paloyme: using delete (or del) instead of backspace will reboot. Be careful
[05:20] <Warbo> bzaks: /etc/fstab in that file
[05:20] <paloyme> ooo ok, what other ctrl+alt+combi should i be looking out for?
[05:20] <bzaks> thanks :)
[05:20] <biovore> yeah.. that looks like a standard docsis 2.0 cable modem
[05:20] <Warbo> paloyme: f1, f2, f3 and stuff. NumPad + and -
[05:20] <amphi> Techgsm: power it down, wait a few seconds, power it up - I had to do that with a cable modem I used when switching machines that were connected to it
[05:20] <paloyme> ctrl+alt+backspace and delte are the same right?
[05:20] <biovore> paloyme: ctrl-alt-(+/-)
[05:20] <KrakensDen> paloyme, nope
[05:20] <amphi> paloyme: no; ctrl-alt-backspace kills X
[05:20] <Warbo> paloyme: No. backspace kills X, delete reboots
[05:21] <KrakensDen> paloyme, one kills X, one reboots
[05:21] <romulo> can anyone point me out something to install ubuntu from a network? like the only thing i got is a small pendrive and a networked iso
[05:21] <paloyme> oh
[05:21] <Warbo> amphi: Beat me again (can't look up from the keyboard)
[05:21] <paloyme> what exactly is achieved by killing x?
[05:21] <amphi> Warbo: heh - with what?
[05:21] <Techgsm> amphi i do that and after i try to reconfigure the laptop , or i just power down the modem and leave the laptop on ?
[05:21] <paloyme> is X the desktop environment?
[05:21] <biovore> romulo: I think there is a way with ubuntu to do that
[05:21] <Madpilot> paloyme, X is the stuff under the desktop, roughly
[05:21] <KrakensDen> amphi, http://linux-usb.sourceforge.net/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html
[05:21] <biovore> romulo: I have only done it with debian though :-P
[05:21] <Warbo> paloyme: If programs screw up then it logs you out instantly
[05:22] <amphi> Techgsm: I used to reset the modem, and then run dhclient
[05:22] <Warbo> paloyme: (though not in Dapper)
[05:22] <amphi> KrakensDen: it's a speedtouch he's talking about?
[05:22] <FlannelKing> romulo: http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/2005/01/09/ubuntu-netinstall-without-cdrom/
[05:22] <bzaks> if I would like to change a volume so that anyone could use it, I would say "users" in the options part, right?
[05:22] <FlannelKing> thats first one google points to (ubuntu net install)
[05:22] <romulo> biovore, im using debian-amd64 but im going to dapper, unfortunatly no blank medias are avaible now
[05:22] <amphi> KrakensDen: I've only used pppoatm with those
[05:22] <Warbo> amphi: lol (only just got it :))
[05:22] <Healot> software suspend in stock Ubuntu kernel doesn;t really work
[05:22] <paloyme> hmmm im kinda confused here... X is like logging in and out?
[05:23] <paloyme> i mean killing X is like logging in and out only
[05:23] <KrakensDen> amphi, according to an ubuntu forum post, they may be equivalent
[05:23] <Techgsm> amphi thanks
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> paloyme,  a hard core way of logging out. :P
[05:23] <KrakensDen> amphi, not much of a source though
[05:23] <Techgsm> ill try before i go to sleep
[05:23] <FlannelKing> paloyme: right.  linux is running underneath of X, X is just a frontend
[05:23] <KrakensDen> Techgsm, did it work?
[05:23] <Warbo> paloyme: If you restart X then you get back into the graphical log in screen. All of your programs are killed
[05:23] <amphi> KrakensDen: he's talking about a cable modem connected via ethernet
[05:23] <Techgsm> :)
[05:23] <paloyme> ohhh ok... X is diffrent from gnome right?
[05:23] <Techgsm> KrakensDen i cant try it now , ill disconnect my pc
[05:23] <bzaks> if I would like to change a volume so that anyone could use it, I would say "users" in the options part, right?
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> paloyme,  linux is all about 'layers and legos' :P layers of software on top of each other.
[05:23] <romulo> hmm ubuntu netinstall
[05:23] <romulo> interesting
[05:23] <amphi> paloyme: gnome runs on top of X
[05:23] <farous> hi everyone how is the best support room :)
[05:23] <Techgsm> KrakensDen before i go to sleep ill try his solution
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> paloyme,  building up entire interfaces.
[05:24] <amphi> farous: er, channel
[05:24] <bzaks> this is the best support room because everyone uses ubuntu and has probably seen your problem before
[05:24] <paloyme> oh ok... got it
[05:24] <Warbo> paloyme: X is the graphics server. You can run what you want on top (GNOME, KDE, XFCE, whatever)
[05:24] <bzaks> if I would like to change a volume so that anyone could use it, I would say "users" in the options part, right?
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> But are we all Linux snobs?
[05:24] <amphi> paloyme: or you can not run X at all ;)
[05:24] <Techgsm> amphi can i ask y a last question ??
[05:24] <paloyme> warbo: there you go, its the graphics server, thats what i was looking for hehehe
[05:24] <Techgsm> :)
[05:24] <amphi> Dr_Willis: I should hope so
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:24] <Techgsm> amphi can i ask y a last question ??
[05:25] <paloyme> neway, who was it that gave me the link to the s3 unichrome forum?
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> Time to make a Disrto called SnobLinux
[05:25] <farous> amphi: you look like one for sure ;)
[05:25] <amphi> paloyme: X conveniently reverse the common meaning of 'client' and 'server' (well, not really)
[05:25] <Madpilot> Dr_Willis, Snobuntu :P
[05:25] <amphi> Techgsm: if you must ;)
[05:25] <Techgsm> lol
[05:25] <bzaks> is SnobLinux going to be insanely hard to use if you're a M$ user?
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> Next Ubuntu Release - Snoby err... Snoby Skunk!
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> LO
[05:25] <romulo> FlannelKing, just founda  mini.iso for dapper :D
[05:25] <jadaz87> Dr_Willis Edgy Eft
[05:25] <Techgsm> amphi n=amphi@unaffiliated/amphi , how y did that ? its really a funny tip lol
[05:26] <romulo> FlannelKing, fits on my pendrive
[05:26] <romulo> :D
[05:26] <romulo> so i install it and try to get the rest from network
[05:26] <Warbo> bzaks: SnobLinux has 2 options. If you are alone it is command line. if someone is next to you XGL turns on and the speakers shout "LOOK AT ME!"
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> jadaz87,  i think we need to apply a hammer to someone's brain for these names. :P
[05:26] <amphi> jadaz87: so now everyone's going to have to explain about teenage newts *sigh*
[05:26] <FlannelKing> romulo: good stuff.  That's all you need, you can get the rest from the internet once you've got stuff on.
[05:26] <romulo> FlannelKing, yeah, ill pray sk98lin works out the box on it
[05:26] <romulo> =P
[05:26] <jadaz87> amphi Dr_Willis lmao
[05:26] <romulo> it didnt worked on my debian.
[05:26] <paloyme> hmmmm let me get this straight... if X is the graphics server, if X is killed, can i still say that linux is still running? can i do a terminal without x?
[05:26] <Madpilot> Warbo, I like it! (but further chat about SnobLinux should probably go to #ubuntu-offtopic...)
[05:26] <FlannelKing> paloyme: right.  ctrl-alt-f1
[05:27] <amphi> Techgsm: it's a fashionable freenode cloak - you can ask one of the freenode people for one
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> Its so hard to come up with a Ubuntu mascot - when they keep changeing animal names.
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:27] <Madpilot> paloyme, of course. Server installs of Linux don't even have X installed at all
[05:27] <Warbo> paloyme: Press ctrl-alt-fi (f7 to get back) You can run Linux with no X
[05:27] <paloyme> ok... what does ctrlalt f1 do?
[05:27] <Techgsm> lol
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> try it an dsee. :P
[05:27] <FlannelKing> paloyme: itll bring you to a text login (graphical is f7)
[05:27] <Techgsm> thats great
[05:27] <paloyme> can i do it now without terminating my xchat here?
[05:27] <FlannelKing> paloyme: you're running six of them (f1-f6)
[05:27] <FlannelKing> yes,
[05:27] <FlannelKing> its a multithreaded OS
[05:28] <FlannelKing> they're all ompletely independant.  While youre doing something on f1, you can switch to f2 and do somethign else (yes, you can log in multiple times)
[05:28] <mikeo1> where do i set the default applications?
[05:28] <mikeo1> for files and links
[05:28] <amphi> FlannelKing: 'enterprise ready' an' all ;)
[05:28] <biovore> (a true multuser OS) as opposed to MS.. witch isn't close to one..
[05:28] <mikeo1> somehow urls broke themselves
[05:28] <FlannelKing> amphi: erm?  more like... 1990s ready ;)
[05:28] <Warbo> mikeo1: For files use right-click properties, OpenWith.
[05:28] <mikeo1> what about links?
[05:28] <Warbo> mikeo1: Oh, in FF
[05:28] <amphi> FlannelKing: linux? it's like the 1970s ;)
[05:28] <xerophyte> which is good imap server dovecot, cyrus , or courier
[05:28] <mikeo1> links no longer work in xchat
[05:29] <mikeo1> not in firefox
[05:29] <mikeo1> in xchat
[05:29] <mikeo1> links are broken
[05:29] <biovore> amphi: yes the 1970 where shit worked and the only bugs where living
[05:29] <mikeo1> and want to make movies open with mplayer by default
[05:29] <Warbo> mikeo1: Then it should ask you, if you already set "remember" then your references will sort that out (in FireFox, I'm talking baout)
[05:29] <Warbo> mikeo1: Oh, sorry (looking at my keyboard again)
[05:29] <farous> mikeo1: you can open pref. set default application
[05:29] <amphi> biovore: there's still plan 9...
[05:30] <biovore> yup.. another intressing invention by bell
[05:30] <biovore> kinda like att unix
[05:30] <Warbo> XChat killed my X when I tried it for the first time. Then I tried again, same problem. I gave up and used GAIM.
[05:30] <intelikey> plan 9   hehhe
[05:30] <romulo> going to boot and test, brb
[05:30] <mikeo1> that doesnt have options for opening movies
[05:30] <mikeo1> want to make all movies open with mplayer by default
[05:30] <mikeo1> totem sort of sucks
[05:30] <farous> mikeo1: multimedia, then set default medial player
[05:31] <mikeo1> where?
[05:31] <mox69> is there an easy way to boot into single user mode from breezy ?
[05:31] <farous> mikeo1: under preferences
[05:31] <arrick> Anyone: Is tehre anyone in here familiar with html coding?
[05:31] <KrakensDen> mox69, I think it's a grub option
[05:31] <intelikey> mox69 add  1  to the kernel string
[05:31] <amphi> biovore: yeah; it runs nicely under qemu, FWIW
[05:31] <Warbo> mox69: There should be a "recovery mode" on GRUB. If not add the word "single" to the "kernel" line
[05:31] <FlannelKing> heh, anyone know if paloyme ever got back to X? ;)
[05:31] <Madpilot> arrick, yes, but use #html or #web for HTML issues, please
[05:31] <mikeo1> dont see it
[05:31] <s0kud0> stupid n00b question.. what is the command to configure X? I thought it was xf86config or something but that doesn't seem to be on my system..
[05:31] <twev> anyone know a good ram diagnostics tool
[05:31] <amphi> FlannelKing: heh
[05:32] <King-of-no-pants> memtest86+
[05:32] <farous> mikeo1: give me a min to loginto gnome
[05:32] <Warbo> s0kud0: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:32] <mikeo1> ok cool thanks
[05:32] <s0kud0> ahh
[05:32] <s0kud0> cool thanks!
[05:32] <Warbo> s0kud0: Ubuntu uses Xorg, not XFree86
[05:32] <arrick> Madpilot, I am, but I was goign to ask someone to join #arrick for a second that knew it
[05:32] <intelikey> Warbo it can use XFree
[05:32] <Madpilot> arrick, you're better off in #html or #web
[05:33] <amphi> arrick: you should have just asked ;)
[05:33] <SD> why do mount points from gnome not show up in console "mount" command?
[05:33] <Falstius> twev: memtest is included in the ubuntu cd .. just stick it in your computer, boot to it and type "memtest" at the boot prompt.
[05:33] <Warbo> intelikey: But it doesn't COME with it
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> SD,  they may not be mounted yet.
[05:33] <FlannelKing> arrick: or #css.  We're html nazis in there too
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> right click on them in gnome and see if the mount opton is there
[05:33] <CNAP> WOW no wonder this graphics package seems alot more receptive than XFree86 (which sucks!)
[05:33] <s0kud0> warbo: thanks man..
[05:33] <intelikey> Warbo but it's in the repos
[05:33] <Warbo> intelikey: Wow. Didn't know that
[05:33] <amphi> CNAP: receptive??
[05:33] <twev> Flastius: ok i'll give it a go
[05:33] <SD> Dr_Willis: they definitely are, because I have been reading/writing files in them
[05:33] <KrakensDen> CNAP, yup, they forked
[05:33] <arrick> Madpilot, been in html channel for about 20 minute, and cant get a straight answer
[05:34] <KrakensDen> CNAP, there has been alot more productive work since then
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> SD,  odd.. i recall someone else the other day with a similer quirk
[05:34] <amphi> arrick: heh
[05:34] <mikeo1> totem sucks
[05:34] <Madpilot> arrick, follow the URLs the bot there just posted!
[05:34] <mikeo1> cant even play h264 hd movie trailers
[05:34] <amphi> mikeo1: so apt-get remove it already
[05:34] <farous> mikeo1: ah my mistake i thought it was an option there. I have not been using gnome for quite a while
[05:34] <intelikey> xfree86-common - X Window System (X.Org) infrastructure metapackage
[05:34] <CNAP> amphi: yeah receptive. xfree86 seemed like it was slow when reacting to mouse movement and clicks. overall it seemed alot slower than what i'm running on now (Xorg i just learned)
[05:34] <mikeo1> well how do i set mplayer as the default for movies?
[05:35] <amphi> CNAP: oh, 'responsive' ;)
[05:35] <marshall_law> anyone know why ubuntu would freeze up on the gnome splash screen after a clean install? i'm guessing it has something to do with a need for more recent NVidia drivers (I have a 7800GT)
[05:35] <Warbo> intelikey: Erm, from it's description it sounds like an obsolete upgrade only package
[05:35] <FlannelKing> arrick: ask now in html ;)
[05:35] <CNAP> amphi: ok, responive... :-p
[05:35] <Warbo> CNAP: Might depend on the niceness of X
[05:35] <KrakensDen> CNAP, methinks you need a spell checker :P
[05:35] <intelikey> Warbo i didn't paste all the xfree hits that apt-cache gave me.
[05:35] <SD> unless I am being an idiot, a windows share should show up under /bin/mount as smbfs... right?
[05:35] <farous> hmm you can right click on a media file in nautilus and select openwith. then choose mplayer. this though seem to crach nautilus on my pc and do not if you will be hit with this bug or not
[05:36] <marshall_law> i'm working with the install image from the latest dapper beta (can't remember the name..)
[05:36] <corey7> is my /etc/hostname file supposed to be empty?
[05:36] <amphi> SD: I'd have thought so
[05:36] <paloyme> ok that was stupid... i did ctrl+alt+f1 without even asking how to get back....
[05:36] <Charly> hola
[05:36] <mikeo1> figured it out
[05:36] <paloyme> so i had to restart the whole thing
[05:36] <mikeo1> never mind
[05:36] <amphi> paloyme: heh - you were told about alt-f7
[05:36] <Warbo> farous: I found it crashed Nautilus's Open With when I had LOADS of useless [ackages installed and the list was long
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> paloyme,  they TOLD you how to get back
[05:36] <mikeo1> just had to go to properties :D
[05:36] <rukuartic> paloyme: its f7
[05:36] <paloyme> nope
[05:37] <amphi> paloyme: yup
[05:37] <Warbo> paloyme: I told you and so did others
[05:37] <rukuartic> paloyme: ctrl+alt+f7 that is... happened to me to othe first time XD
[05:37] <paloyme> so how do i get back when i press ctrl alt f2 f3 f4....
[05:37] <farous> Warbo: i filed it as a bug and turned out to be known bug. Do not what cause it though
[05:37] <paloyme> wat is ctrl f7?
[05:37] <Warbo> paloyme: The same
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> alt-ctrl-f7 is the normal way to get back.. it could be other #'s at times
[05:37] <amphi> paloyme: or just alt-left/right until X appears
[05:37] <rukuartic> paloyme: ctrl+alt+f7
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> you used alt-ctrl-F1,, and you are asking what alt-ctrl-F7 is? :P
[05:37] <rukuartic> amphi: Doesn't work for me like that
[05:37] <mox69> ok even booting into recovery mode the computer freezes at *Starting hotplug system
[05:37] <paloyme> when i press ctrl alt f1, will my xchat here terminate?
[05:37] <amphi> paloyme: or chvt 7 ;)
[05:37] <FlannelKing> no
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> paloyme,  No.
[05:38] <Warbo> farous: Me neither, but my system needed a sorting out (I had turned kubuntu into ubuntu and had loads of redundant stuff)
[05:38] <amphi> rukuartic: alt-left/right doesn't work for you?
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> Layers and Legos. :P  and Linux Fundamentals.
[05:38] <paloyme> what does ctrl alt f1-f7 do actually?
[05:38] <marshall_law> anyone have an idea why dapper beta would freeze up on gnome splash screen?
[05:38] <paloyme> exactly i mean
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> goes to the different 'consoles'
[05:38] <marshall_law> (after a fresh install)
[05:38] <paloyme> what does ctrl alt f1-f7 do exactly
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> one console is running X.
[05:38] <FlannelKing> switches between your ttys
[05:38] <KrakensDen> paloyme, have you tried it yet?
[05:39] <Warbo> paloyme: Takes you to different "consoles" so you can do more than one thing at once. f7 and above are reserved for graphics
[05:39] <mox69> the last thing i see before it freezes is "snd-hda-intel: cant be loaded, missing kernel or user mode driver snd-hda-intel
[05:39] <harisund> Does anybody have an experience of their mouse cursor turning black after a screensaver starts?
[05:39] <mox69> anyone know a workaround for that?
[05:39] <intelikey> layleo & lego ?
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> You could even have a different X session on alt-ctrl-F8, or some logging info on alt-ctrl-F9
[05:39] <paloyme> i did try ctrl+alt f2 f3 f4, all it did was take me to a terminal and couldnt get back to the desktop
[05:39] <Warbo> paloyme: Try going on system tools > new login. That will open up f8 for you to play with
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> paloyme,  ya dident try F7 then..
[05:39] <KrakensDen> paloyme, f7 is X by convention
[05:39] <dabaR> mox69: boot into live mode, and blacklist that module.
[05:40] <mox69> i would, but it freezes when booting into live mode :)
[05:40] <intelikey> Dr_Willis or 24 login consoles.....
[05:40] <mox69> i guess i could try a differnt live cd
[05:40] <amphi> paloyme: X starts on the first unused TTY
[05:40] <corey7> can someone tell me what their /etc/hostname file looks like
[05:40] <dabaR> mox69: go into expert mode for live CD, and disable that driver, if the same driver locks it up in live CD.
[05:41] <Charly> hi
[05:41] <amphi> corey7: it just contains the box's hostname
[05:41] <mox69> ok
[05:41] <dabaR> mox69: That could be a driver for the hda, which would be kinda crappy for you.
[05:41] <corey7> mine is blank, should i add a hostname
[05:41] <Warbo> I know that boot up messages are on f8, but sometimes New Login start on f8 (mostly) but sometimes f9. Don't know why
[05:41] <paloyme> nope... didnt try f7, i was panicking on how to get back hehehe, i thought pressing anything more than f6 will give me a headache
[05:41] <Charly> someone of peru
[05:41] <amphi> !es
[05:41] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:41] <intelikey> as for which tty x is running on, it loads in the first free tty.   the command that puts mingetty (the login prompt) on a tty is in /etc/inittab .
[05:42] <paloyme> hehehe
[05:42] <paloyme> i just pressed alt+f4... stupid...
[05:42] <amphi> wb, paloyme
[05:42] <paloyme> hehehe
[05:42] <Warbo> paloyme: Now try ctrl-alt-+ (NumPad)
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> This is when it pays to read a few linux beginner guides
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:42] <amphi> paloyme: alt-f4 takes me to workspace 4
[05:42] <intelikey> you could have any number of login tty's  from 0 to 128
[05:42] <paloyme> workspace and dekstop environments are different?
[05:43] <mikeo1> is there an xterm for ubuntu?
[05:43] <amphi> intelikey: only 128? bah
[05:43] <mikeo1> have something that wont close
[05:43] <Warbo> intelikey: Why suchj a small limit :)
[05:43] <mikeo1> and dont know what it is
[05:43] <amphi> intelikey: thank gnu for screen ;)
[05:43] <paloyme> hmmm ctrl alt + is zoom?
[05:43] <Warbo> amphi: Again with the beating me
[05:43] <intelikey> amphi you would have to alter dev also to have more than 128
[05:43] <mikeo1> or how do i kill a window
[05:43] <mikeo1> that i dont know what it is
[05:43] <amphi> mikeo1: xkill
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> mikeo1,  many xterms..   could use 'xkill'
[05:44] <intelikey> amphi i dislike 'screen'
[05:44] <Hexidigital> hello Ubuntu users
[05:44] <mikeo1> cool
[05:44] <mikeo1> worked good
[05:44] <amphi> intelikey: heresy! ;) why?
[05:44] <Warbo> mikeo1: I have deskbar-applet on my panel. Makes single useful command easier to access
[05:44] <harisund> Does anybody have an experience of their mouse cursor turning black after a screensaver starts?
[05:44] <mikeo1> hmmm think it crashed xgl
[05:44] <paloyme> is workspace different from desktop? like the one located on the lower right?
[05:45] <mikeo1> it killed it but there is still a black window
[05:45] <mikeo1> loil
[05:45] <amphi> paloyme: no, same thing
[05:45] <mikeo1> time to restartx
[05:45] <Warbo> paloyme: Depends on who you ask and what window manager they use
[05:45] <Hexidigital> paloyme, workspaces are virtual desktops (usually)
[05:45] <amphi> harisund: perhaps it reverts to the standard X pointer, which is black
[05:46] <harisund> aha ! amphi I have a strong feeling you are right. Any idea how I can change that?
[05:46] <paloyme> well there are only 4 desktops here, somebody said there were 6 workstations...?
[05:46] <Warbo> paloyme: For instance, I would say I have 1 desktop, as I can put files and launchers in one place, but I have multiple workspaces
[05:46] <tritium_> paloyme: not workstations, virtual consoles
[05:46] <root_> how do i give ppl the "link" so to speak to an irc channel?
[05:46] <amphi> paloyme: you can make as many 'desktops' as you like
[05:46] <Warbo> paloyme: f1,f2,f3,f4,f5,f6 That's six
[05:46] <paloyme> uhhh i mean workspaces hahah sori, wrong term
[05:46] <amphi> paloyme: both are fine
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> root_,  Huh? like irc://irc.freenode.net#ubuntu
[05:46] <Hexidigital> root_, do they have an IRC program?
[05:47] <amphi> paloyme: I prefer 'workspace', my panel is not a desk
[05:47] <Warbo> paloyme: Text based are referred to as "consoles" (you have 4 workspaces and 6 consoles)
[05:47] <Warbo> paloyme: (by default)
[05:47] <root_> thank you
[05:47] <harisund> amphi any idea how I can change that?
[05:47] <paloyme> so f7 is the first workspace, like this one here?
[05:48] <amphi> harisund: nope
[05:48] <paloyme> 4 workspaces, which are f7 f8 f9 and f10?
[05:48] <harisund> But you are right, come to think of it, it does change to default x cursor
[05:48] <FlannelKing> paloyme: no, they're all inside f7
[05:48] <paloyme> oh ok...
[05:48] <amphi> paloyme: console 7 is where your X server lives; gnome runs on top of X, and provides you with 4 desktops
[05:48] <FlannelKing> paloyme: those things on the bottom right.
[05:48] <FlannelKing> paloyme: four boxes
[05:48] <paloyme> got it
[05:48] <FlannelKing> you have four "desktops"
[05:48] <Warbo> paloyme: No. f7 is your first X session. You can run loads of stuff inside X at once. Basically, if your monitor doesn't flicker then you aren't changing console (in my experience)
[05:48] <amphi> paloyme: of course, there are no desktops, just lists of windows to be displayed ;)
[05:49] <intelikey> QUESTION   howto remove getty
[05:49] <marshall_law> anyone know why ubuntu would freeze up on the gnome splash screen after a clean install? i'm guessing it has something to do with a need for more recent NVidia drivers (I have a 7800GT)
[05:49] <harisund> intelikey: Answer, edit out the getty in /etc/inittab
[05:49] <Warbo> paloyme: Whatever you do don't get Enlightenment (they add another layer on top of all this!)
[05:49] <marshall_law> i'm working with the install image from the latest dapper flight (can't remember the name..)
[05:49] <FlannelKing> marshall_law: try clicking the splash screen
[05:49] <paloyme> and f8 is another session of X with another set of 4 desktops
[05:49] <rukuartic> What does getty do?
[05:49] <amphi> paloyme: it could be
[05:49] <harisund> Does anybody use gkrellm? Or any equivalent of that perhaps?
[05:49] <FlannelKing> or is it entirel frozen? (I've found sometimes the splash screen doesn't disappear on its own)
[05:49] <marshall_law> i've tried ... tried clicking and moving the mouse around unfortunately already :(
[05:49] <rukuartic> harisund: I do
[05:49] <paloyme> uh.. whats enlightenment? literally?
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> paloyme,  it could be a different window manager/desktop on another machine as well...
[05:50] <harisund> rukuartic: How's it?
[05:50] <marshall_law> well it's odd.. like the screen is half drawn and half not.. sort of garbeled
[05:50] <Warbo> harisund: I use a few gdesklets to monitor my system
[05:50] <rukuartic> harisund: It works well :P Fairly customizable.
[05:50] <marshall_law> i thought it might be a driver issue
[05:50] <FlannelKing> paloyme: it's another window manager (like gnome, KDE, etc)
[05:50] <amphi> paloyme: in a console, you could do startx -- :1 and get another X server on console 8
[05:50] <marshall_law> wasn't sure though
[05:50] <intelikey> harisund no.  there is already no login prompt on this box,  but what package provides /sbin/getty  ?
[05:50] <harisund> rukuartic: thanks .. have you intsalled some of the plugins?
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> paloyme,  theres dozens of window managers/desktop enviroments out you could use instead of gnome.
[05:50] <rukuartic> harisund: Using the WIFI one.
[05:50] <amphi> intelikey: dpkg -S /sbin/getty
[05:50] <harisund> rukuartic: Ah must come in handy
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> paloyme,  check http://xwinman.org/  - for info on them
[05:51] <paloyme> amphi so i cud do this... ctrl+alt+f1, log in, type startx and get a new x server at f8?
[05:51] <rukuartic> harisund: Yep. I run a small server, and I monitor CPU usage/memory with it
[05:51] <harisund> intelikey: util-linux is the package.
[05:51] <amphi> paloyme: yes; but you need to type 'startx -- :1'
[05:51] <paloyme> startx -- :1
[05:51] <Warbo> paloyme: No need. Use the New Login from System Tools (is it there by default or have I configured my system too much?)
[05:51] <amphi> paloyme: the first server is :0
[05:51] <harisund> rukuartic: you run a small server, and on that machine you run gkrellm, is that what you are saying?
[05:51] <paloyme> oh ok
[05:52] <rukuartic> harisund: There's too parts. The daemon and the monitor. The daemon runs always in the BG, logs data. The monitor can be turned on whenever. But its cool because I could be on another linux box, and monitor it with the monitoring program
[05:52] <marshall_law> FlannelKing: basically i put my username/password into GDM, then gnome starts with it's splash screen but it immediately freezes except for mouse movement, and the splash screen itself is all garbled looking
[05:52] <paloyme> what is the "--" for?
[05:52] <harisund> Ah, X forward?
[05:52] <FlannelKing> marshall_law: you using xdmcp by any chance?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> Bash Fundamentals.  anything after a --  is passed on unparsed.
[05:52] <amphi> paloyme: you can run as many X servers as your machine can stand (up to 128 or 256 perhaps, I've never run more than two)
[05:52] <marshall_law> FlannelKing: not that i know of, this is just a fresh install
[05:52] <rukuartic> harisund: The server runs the gkrellm daemon, so I can connect mydns.com:XXXX (can't remember the port)
[05:52] <harisund> ok .. that's sweet.. totally (rukuartic)
[05:52] <rukuartic> harisund: You better believe it rofl
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> I was thinking GDM had a feature to spawn a new one as well. or was that in the gnome menus?
[05:53] <amphi> paloyme: it means no more arguments for startx
[05:53] <rukuartic> harisund: Should be in repos
[05:53] <paloyme> ok
[05:53] <harisund> Ok does anyone know how to change the mouse cursor back to Gnome's default, when it has changed to the X default (the black one) ?
[05:53] <bert_> Question for the 1337.
[05:53] <paloyme> lets see hmmm
[05:53] <Warbo> Dr_Willis: It's in the GNOME menu, along with a nested one if you have Xnest
[05:53] <bert_> How would I go about installing a .run File, from Terminal?
[05:53] <My> *waves* I'm Very new to Linux.... and have a few questions...
[05:53] <Warbo> harisund: Maybe gcursor package? (seems a bit overkill though)
[05:53] <intelikey> harisund yes i was just reading   dpkg -L util-linux | grep bin      and it looks like i might want to cp /sbin/hwclock  before i remove  it....  i actually use that command.
[05:53] <marshall_law> FlannelKing: could it be a problem with an outdated nvidia driver?
[05:54] <FlannelKing> marshall_law: um, sure ;) can't hurt to try
[05:54] <Madpilot> harisund, try System->Preferences->Mouse?
[05:54] <Warbo> my: Fire away
[05:54] <marshall_law> ehh heh ;)
[05:54] <paloyme> cool!!!
[05:54] <paloyme> i have f8 up and running:)
[05:54] <toto> who
[05:54] <My> I have no sound.... was not autodetected how do I correct that?
[05:54] <amphi> paloyme: you got your second X server up?
[05:54] <harisund> MAdpilot that worked, but can you tell me the command for starting the mouse preferences?
[05:54] <paloyme> but the icons for trashbin and minimize all windows are in X
[05:55] <bert_> How would I go about installing a .RUN file from Terminal in Ubunutu...?
[05:55] <paloyme> amphi: yes:)
[05:55] <amphi> paloyme: I have no idea what gnome does if you run multiple sessions as the same user
[05:55] <paloyme> oh...
[05:55] <harisund> Madpilot: it's gnome-mouse-properties. Thanks for that help a lot.
[05:55] <paloyme> heheheh
[05:55] <Hexidigital> anyone know how to get the keyboard shortcuts back to default?? i'd rather have that F7 console thing than F7 changing the current window to my 3rd workspace
[05:55] <Warbo> paloyme: You can use a simple Linux box as a mainframe for a whole load of graphical stuff (you know you can run programs on other computers and send the output window to yours, etc.) It's a VERY powerful system
[05:56] <bert_> Hmm... Anyone familiar with that, or not?
[05:56] <toto> where is it
[05:56] <toto> who are you?
[05:56] <Warbo> My: In the Device Manager (System>Admin) is it there?
[05:56] <harisund> how do I add more mouse pointer themes ot ubuntu?
[05:56] <HedgeMage> Hexidigital: go under system, user prefs, keyboard shortcuts
[05:56] <HedgeMage> Hexidigital: that drove me nuts too!
[05:56] <HedgeMage> :)
[05:56] <intelikey> hmmm looks like   removing util-linux will try to take every thing with it.....    maybe i'll just rm some of the files it provides.
[05:56] <paloyme> warbo: i see... so how do i terminate session 8? or f8... what is the proper term for it anyway? second x server?
[05:56] <Hexidigital> HedgeMage, tyvm  :)
[05:56] <harisund> intelikey what is is that you are trying to do
[05:57] <amphi> paloyme: alt-ctrl-backspace
[05:57] <HedgeMage> Hexidigital: np
[05:57] <intelikey> harisund just get rid of some thing i dont use.
[05:57] <Warbo> paloyme: If you are logged into it then normal log out will kill it
[05:57] <bert_> amphi: can you help me?
[05:57] <paloyme> amphi: it will only terminate the 2nd x server right? and not this server
[05:57] <intelikey> like getty
[05:57] <harisund> intelikey: which is?
[05:57] <SD> ok smbmount is simply not working, ive followed instructions from the net to the letter. Can anyone suggest a way to get around it?
[05:57] <amphi> bert_: no, I've never seen a .run file
[05:57] <Hexidigital> HedgeMage, there's no reset to default option
[05:57] <Warbo> paloyme: Yes, that's right
[05:57] <bert_> amphi: ok, Thanks anyway..
[05:57] <bert_> Anybody else able to help me??
[05:58] <nalioth> HedgeMage: as i live and breathe! howdy! :)
[05:58] <amphi> bert_: sh ./foo.run perhaps?
[05:58] <harisund> To remove the gettys (6 of which come by default) you can comment out the corresponding lines in /etc/inittab. NExt time you reboot, you won't find those getty's. (intelikey)
[05:58] <HedgeMage> hi nalioth :)
[05:58] <rukuartic> harisund: What exactily does getty do?
[05:58] <toto> qqqq
[05:58] <HedgeMage> nalioth: long time no see :P
[05:58] <biovore> getty is a tty
[05:58] <toto> sdsdsdssds
[05:58] <amphi> rukuartic: man getty ;)
[05:58] <paloyme> ok, i shutted down the second X server and it gave me a terminal, how do i know which terminal im in?
[05:58] <harisund> rukuartic: A getty is (I think) a log in terminal.
[05:58] <paloyme> i mean, which workspace im in
[05:59] <FlannelKing> paloyme: no, which terminal ;)
[05:59] <emi> hai
[05:59] <rukuartic> bert_: You might have to change it to executable +x
[05:59] <biovore> getty give you that text base login thing
[05:59] <paloyme> flannelking ok terminal hehehe
[05:59] <Warbo> paloyme: If you are in a text console the tty1 to tty6 will tell you
[05:59] <intelikey> harisund no no no.   my inittab doesn't use any getty any more.   i told you that.   so if i don't use the file, lets rm the file.
[05:59] <My> Warbo: It does show my onboard sound chip Nvidia AC97 but not my Phillips PSC724
[05:59] <amphi> paloyme: type 'tty'
[05:59] <bert_> amphi: Actually that worked, Thanks a ton!..
[05:59] <paloyme> amphi: tenks for that:)
[05:59] <amphi> bert_: heheh
[05:59] <emi> oooooooiiii
[06:00] <bert_> Oh no!...
[06:00] <Warbo> My: Is it under it's own little tree of things? (I've found that stuff not working is under generic PCI trees, but working ones have their own)
[06:00] <bert_> /home/bert/.setup11021: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:00] <bert_> ./setup.sh: line 143: 11045 Segmentation fault      "$setup" "$@" 2>>$NULL
[06:00] <bert_> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[06:00] <harisund> intelikey: inittab doesn't use getty any more? How come? What did you do? Are you sure? Just scroll down your inittab file and you are definitely going to find lines describing the gettys...
[06:00] <emi> do u know indonesia
[06:00] <bert_> :(
[06:00] <paloyme> hmmm ok all this linux stuff is making me giddy... but i still havent solved my video driver card problem, heheheh
[06:00] <harisund> intelikey; And I wouldn't suggesting reomving inittab it is a very very *important* file.
[06:00] <ExcaliBer> hey does anyone know how to install dapper with out cd?
[06:00] <bert_> amphi: do you know of a Debian based Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory..(Would be easier to isntall than this .run file)
[06:00] <Warbo> paloyme: Are you using that card now?
[06:00] <emi> grumble
[06:01] <CNAP> ooo ooo i got this one
[06:01] <intelikey> harisund i could almost paste my whole inittab without flooding.  it's like 6 lines long now.
[06:01] <amphi> bert_: no
[06:01] <bert_> amphi: hmm ok.
[06:01] <emi> yeyee
[06:01] <CNAP> ExcaliBer: you need to use source-o-matic to update your sources.list file
[06:01] <ExcaliBer> does anyone here have dapper?
[06:01] <bert_> Anybody else know of a Debian based Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory file?
[06:01] <harisund> intelikey: that's surprising .hmm.. then I really wouldn't know what starts your gettys..
[06:01] <harisund> Excaliber: I do.
[06:01] <paloyme> yep, this is the card im using
[06:01] <ExcaliBer> where do i get it?
[06:01] <Warbo> bert_: could try looking on apt-get.org (very debiany, less ubuntuy)
[06:01] <harisund> But you are better off at #ubuntu+1
[06:01] <paloyme> its built in to the motherboard
[06:01] <ExcaliBer> the source o matic?
[06:01] <ExcaliBer> where i get that?
[06:01] <My> Warbo: forgive I'm a longterm windows user... can I send you a screenshot of it?
[06:01] <intelikey> harisund nothing does.
[06:01] <paloyme> warbo: yeah this is the card im using right now, its built in to the motherboard
[06:01] <mikeo1> is there a way to do live previews of pictures on mouseover with nautilus
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> !source-o-matic
[06:01] <bert_> Warbo: Ok, I will try that, Thank you.. This is my first day on Linux, so thanks for your patience.. :)
[06:01] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:01] <newbuntie> what's the opposite of cat? I need to split a file into 2 parts
[06:02] <harisund> Excaliber: I just substituted breezy with dapper in my sources.list file and did a dist-upgrade. And now I am running dapper.
[06:02] <Warbo> paloyme: Then why do you need this other driver? Is it for blinding 3D stuff?
[06:02] <rukuartic> bert_: Great, good for you
[06:02] <Warbo> My: Will have a go...
[06:02] <Hexidigital> newbuntie, dog?
[06:02] <amphi> newbuntie: tac
[06:02] <ExcaliBer> how?
[06:02] <mikeo1> or is there a file manager that can do live previews of images on mouseover?
[06:02] <ExcaliBer> can you show me please?
[06:02] <paloyme> nope, just for better resolution, im currently at 1024x768
[06:02] <CNAP> Ecaliber: go here, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> ExcaliBer: Did you catch that flying by?
[06:02] <ExcaliBer> but i want it kde mode
[06:02] <harisund> Excaliber: Are you sure you want to do that?
[06:02] <amphi> newbuntie: but you probably want split
[06:02] <ExcaliBer> kde?
[06:02] <paloyme> 1024 is kinda big for me...
[06:02] <ExcaliBer> i like kde or is gnome better?
[06:02] <onthost> is dapper out for PPC too?
[06:03] <FlannelKing> onthost: beta is out.
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> ExcaliBer,  i perfer KDE.
[06:03] <Hexidigital> amphi, i thought your first answer was serious :)
[06:03] <joshr> does anyone know if i can easily install freevo on ubuntu
[06:03] <ExcaliBer> ok
[06:03] <joshr> i am new to ubuntu
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> ExcaliBer: Try them both yourself or check out screenshots and decide.  It's a personal choice.
[06:03] <amphi> Hexidigital: it is - man tac
[06:03] <ExcaliBer> so how do i install it?
[06:03] <CNAP> Excaliber, select everything for dapper. Copy and paste into your sources.list file
[06:03] <My> Warbo: do you see it? or should I send another way?
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> ExcaliBer,  i mix and match the 2.
[06:03] <ExcaliBer> where and how?
[06:03] <Hexidigital> amphi, ah... what does split do then?
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> !kubuntu
[06:03] <ubotu> well, kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[06:03] <amphi> Hexidigital: it just doesn't do what he wanted
[06:03] <Hexidigital> amphi, i see
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> ExcaliBer,  you install Kubuntu-dekstop see the urls
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> Anyone else that's going to jump on a DE discussion, let's take it in #ubuntu-offtopic so we don't flood :)
[06:03] <bert_> Warbo: Do you mean, http://www.apt-get.org ?.. If so, It did not work...?
[06:03] <intelikey> hehhe harisund if you want to see my inittab...  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d12575 ....  but don't try that at home....  :)
[06:03] <amphi> Hexidigital: man split ;)
[06:03] <pb> hello, i have used a guide to manually instal firefox 1.5 in my breezy installation..so i think the old version still exists, but now synaptec is asking me to upgrade to firefox 1.0.8...shall i proceed?
[06:03] <ExcaliBer> i already installed kde
[06:03] <onthost> FlannelKing: oh beta....ill wait for stable, im a pussy haha
[06:03] <paloyme> which directory does all wget downloads go to?
[06:03] <ExcaliBer> i want dapper
[06:03] <mikeo1> anyone?
[06:04] <Hexidigital> :) amphi, just man split -ted
[06:04] <ExcaliBer> just tell me a easy way please
[06:04] <mikeo1> decent file manager that can do live previews of images on mouseover?
[06:04] <CNAP> Excaliber, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-linux
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> !dapper
[06:04] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[06:04] <jetscreamer> paloyme: the one you're in uless you tel it different
[06:04] <ExcaliBer> i already have ubuntu
[06:04] <jetscreamer> unless
[06:04] <ExcaliBer> im using it right now
[06:04] <CNAP> Excaliber, I'm sorry it was "sudo apt-get upgrade ubuntu-linux"
[06:04] <ExcaliBer> i have both
[06:04] <amphi> paloyme: wherever you told it to put them
[06:04] <FlannelKing> ExcaliBer: what are you trying to do?
[06:04] <joshr> Does anybody know if i can install freevo from repositories or do i have to download and compile it
[06:04] <ExcaliBer> get dapper
[06:05] <FlannelKing> joshr: it's not in the repos, nope.
[06:05] <ExcaliBer> sudo apt-get upgrade ubuntu-linux
[06:05] <paloyme> i just pasted this wget ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/kudos/hoary/via_drv.o.bz2 at the terminal
[06:05] <joshr> FlannelKing is there an easy way to install it?
[06:05] <ExcaliBer> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:05] <FlannelKing> ExcaliBer: just go to your sources list, and change "breezy" to "dapper" everywhere.
[06:05] <paloyme> so it just downloaded, but dont know where it went
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> I advise doing a clean dapper install.
[06:05] <intelikey> joshr apt-cache search   knows.
[06:05] <bert_> Anybody know of a place to find a Debian based Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory??.....
[06:05] <paloyme> what directory in downloaded to
[06:05] <CNAP> Excaliber: have you updated your sources.list ?
[06:05] <FlannelKing> !uprade
[06:05] <amphi> paloyme: ls should show it
[06:05] <ubotu> FlannelKing: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:05] <ExcaliBer> where is sources.list?
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> CNAP: There is not such package as ubuntu-linux.
[06:05] <Hobbsee> !+repos
[06:05] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:05] <tritium_> ExcaliBer: /etc/apt
[06:05] <CNAP> tonyarusso: yeah i just noticed
[06:05] <paloyme> ls and dir are the same right?
[06:05] <amphi> paloyme: whatever directory you were in when you ran wget
[06:05] <ExcaliBer> type that in terminal?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> ExcaliBer,  you may want to do some more learning of the fundamentals of linux and ubuntu . befor messing with dapper.
[06:06] <joshr> I just want a media center ubuntu pc, any recommendations
[06:06] <FlannelKing> ExcaliBer: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:06] <tritium_> no, ExcaliBer, you asked where it was
[06:06] <amphi> joshr: mplayer
[06:06] <CNAP> Excaliber: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:06] <beowuff> joshr: I like totem-xine.
[06:06] <ExcaliBer> ok im in sourced.list'
[06:06] <joshr> is totem-xine in repositories?
[06:06] <beowuff> joshr: just make sure DMA is turned on.
[06:06] <Hexidigital> i'm quite partial to kaffeine
[06:07] <bert_> So... Apparently Nobody has any ideas?
[06:07] <ExcaliBer> im in soucred.list
[06:07] <ExcaliBer> its empty
[06:07] <joshr> beowuff is it hard to turn dma on?
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> joshr,  could install the MythTV packages
[06:07] <FlannelKing> ExcaliBer: change "breezy" to "dapper" in all the repository lines
[06:07] <ExcaliBer> nothign there
[06:07] <intelikey> harisund i don't use getty  because all passwords are locked.     (there is no login, anywhere on this box)
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> ExcaliBer,  you typed a name or somthing else wrong then
[06:07] <ExcaliBer> i dont see anything
[06:07] <CNAP> Excaliber: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:07] <arrick> !tell ExcaliBer about easysource
[06:07] <Warbo> My: OK, this is what I mean http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12577
[06:07] <amphi> bert_: it seems to be looking for an old version of the gtk libs - it's naughty of it to segfault
[06:07] <joshr> I am more so looking for audio not tv
[06:07] <beowuff> joshr: Just a sec, I'll get you a link on how to do it.
[06:07] <ExcaliBer> oh ok now im in the real one
[06:07] <joshr> thanks
[06:08] <FlannelKing> heh
[06:08] <ExcaliBer> where do i change it?
[06:08] <paloyme> is bz2 a compressed file? like zip?
[06:08] <joshr> maybe some dvd or mpg, avi, but no tv
[06:08] <bert_> amphi: so do you have any idea's apon how to get it to install, or find a debian based version of it?
[06:08] <ExcaliBer> Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386
[06:08] <FlannelKing> After each line (somethign like http://yaddayadda/ breezy main etc)
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> paloyme,  yes.
[06:08] <FlannelKing> change breezy to dapper
[06:08] <beowuff> joshr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[06:08] <joshr> thanks
[06:08] <FlannelKing> on each one of those (regardless of what's AFTER breezy)
[06:08] <CNAP> Excaliber, i was wrong about the apt-get command you want to enter (once you've updated your sources.list file) "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get upgrade ubuntu-base"
[06:08] <paloyme> whats the equivalent of windows explorer in ubuntu?
[06:08] <monsterb> Hi All - Whats a good harddrive partition setup?  I have a 200GB - how much should I allow for /home  and  /  ??
[06:08] <ExcaliBer> leave it to dapper badger?
[06:08] <beowuff> joshr: if DMA is turned on, any player will probably do.
[06:08] <tonyyarusso> paloyme: Nautilus.
[06:08] <Warbo> paloyme: Nautilus, FireFox, Gnome Panel, etc.
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> paloyme,  theres dozens of file managers you can use. and several web browsers
[06:08] <amphi> bert_: old gtk libs are packaged, but I suspect you'll be entering a world of pain
[06:09] <_jason> paloyme: nautilus
[06:09] <joshr> thanks beowuff
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> paloyme: (By default anyway.)
[06:09] <FlannelKing> ExcaliBer: erm, there should just be breezy... hold on,
[06:09] <LdyVix> Warbo: I got disconnected did I miss something?
[06:09] <bert_> amphi: Ah.. And I suspect ye' aren't willing to go through the world of pain to assit me :)
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> Thing to rember about Linux - theres always a dozen tools to do a job. :P now which one to use that you like - is the hard part.
[06:09] <CNAP> Excaliber: go here: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:09] <amphi> bert_: I know nothing about that particular one
[06:09] <paloyme> where can i find nautilus?
[06:09] <Warbo> LdyVix: I've been away myself. Was I talking to you?
[06:09] <Warbo> paloyme: Click on Home
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> paloyme: Places > Anything, Home, whatever.
[06:10] <bert_> amphi: Ah, Alright, Well thanks for your co-operation. I will keep looking for a Debian based version of it.
[06:10] <LdyVix> Warbo: yes you were talking to me... as "My"
[06:10] <FlannelKing> ExcaliBer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:10] <FlannelKing> except, change thigns to breezy instead of dapper (we really not have one for dapper yet?)
[06:10] <Warbo> LdyVix: OK. Here is a screenshot of my Device Manager to show you: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12577
[06:10] <amphi> bert_: google will know, no doubt - ##linux people might know
[06:10] <ExcaliBer> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[06:10] <ExcaliBer> this is to make it to dapper?
[06:10] <jmoncayo> does somebody know why when i use transparency with aterm and i change the background it stays with the oldder background?
[06:10] <CNAP> Excaliber: sudo apt-get update, first
[06:11] <Warbo> jmoncayo: What window manager?
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> FlannelKing: Basically, if they don't know how to get Dapper, they probably shouldn't ;)
[06:11] <amphi> jmoncayo: because it's fake translucency
[06:11] <CNAP> Excaliber: then sudo apt-get update ubuntu-base
[06:11] <FlannelKing> tonyyarusso: I suppose.
[06:11] <itsmike> have a portable computer for sale - $450 is the amount include ship. case, wireless router.  message if interested on aim at ogd443 or msn at albertaguy1981@hotmail.com if interested
[06:11] <jmoncayo> i am using fluxbox
[06:11] <FlannelKing> tonyyarusso: except, it's in beta now, and apparently this beta is stable for english people
[06:11] <Warbo> jmoncayo: Sorry, can't help
[06:11] <monsterb> Hi All - Whats a good harddrive partition setup?  I have a 200GB - how much should I allow for /home  and  /  ??
[06:11] <jmoncayo> amphi, so it always happens like that
[06:11] <ExcaliBer> you mean sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop?
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> FlannelKing: Is the beta actually out?
[06:11] <amphi> jmoncayo: your X server is not using real alpha-channel, aterm is faking it
[06:11] <CNAP> tonyyarusso: once he gets his sources updated he should be off and running. upgrading to dapper is quite easy with apt-get
[06:12] <paloyme> ok how do i extract a file to a directory using file browser without being told that i dont have permission?
[06:12] <ExcaliBer> then type this?
[06:12] <ExcaliBer> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[06:12] <FlannelKing> tonyyarusso: or if nothing else, just because youre not familiar with linux/ubuntu doesn't mean you're not familiar with beta software n general
[06:12] <Warbo> monsterb: I have 250GB. I have 20GB /, 150GB /home/chris/Files and the rest to play with different OSs
[06:12] <FlannelKing> tonyyarusso: yeah.  Or at least, the artwork seems to think so.
[06:12] <amphi> CNAP: someone was just complaining that everything was broken after a dist-upgrade ;)
[06:12] <tonyyarusso> CNAP: It's easy to do, but the knowledge that tells you how it's easy doesn't exist when not ready for a development release.
[06:12] <ExcaliBer> Flannelking:put this next sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[06:12] <ExcaliBer> ?
[06:12] <tonyyarusso> FlannelKing: True, I suppose.
[06:12] <monsterb> Warbo, Thanks
[06:13] <paloyme> ok how do i extract a file to a directory using file browser without being told that i dont have permission?
[06:13] <CNAP> amphi: i've been running it for 4 days now straight and i haven't had any problems <fingers crossed>
[06:13] <CNAP> tonyyarusso: what do you mean?
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> FlannelKing: I heard that earlier, before the 20th actually someone said it proclaimed beta.  Nothing on the -announce mailing list yet though.
[06:13] <Warbo> monsterb: I like to keep my prefs and configs seperate from my files, hence the Files folder (so I can use multiple OSs with the same files)
[06:13] <amphi> paloyme: by extracting it to a directory under $HOME
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> CNAP: Just that generally new users should use the stable release by recommendation.
[06:14] <CNAP> tonyyarusso: i agree, traditionally that's been the case. dapper drake is rock solid, especially for beta
[06:14] <bert_> Amphi: what is the debian unpackage code for terminal, is it "sudo dpckg -i file.deb" ?
[06:14] <FlannelKing> tonyyarusso: besides, he'll test the upgrade process ;) we need them
[06:14] <CNAP> excaliber: sudo apt-get update
[06:14] <amphi> bert_: yes, if you lose the 'c'
[06:14] <pb> Hey everyone, no one seemed to have responded so here goes again anyway...firefox 1.0.8 now shows up in synaptic for update, and I have firefox 1.5 running smoothly (using the instructions in the wiki)... should I neglect the update and continue working, or shall I proceed with the update? Will it break my firefox 1.5 installation?
[06:14] <tritium_> zcat[1] : more or less...but not completely
[06:14] <amphi> zcat[1] : good to hear
[06:14] <ExcaliBer> ok i did that
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> CNAP: Can you confirm official beta out?  I've been wondering for the last 5 hours at what point today it would be.
[06:14] <beowuff> bert_ sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> FlannelKing: True.
[06:15] <bert_> amphi: Do'H!... My bad... Thanks again :D
[06:15] <intelikey> CNAP if dapper is "rock solid"  i'd hate to see something you considered "shakey at best"
[06:15] <zcat[1] > this one I'm waiting for final though..
[06:15] <ExcaliBer> and then i did sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base
[06:15] <CNAP> tonyyarusso: official beta? what do you mean?
[06:15] <Warbo> pb: If you don't use it then don'tupgrade it. No security flaws, etc will affect you if you are in 1.5
[06:15] <paloyme> where is xorg.conf located again?
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> pb: If you followed the wiki, it will be safe to upgrade.
[06:15] <ExcaliBer> im done
[06:15] <FlannelKing> oh
[06:15] <FlannelKing> oh
[06:15] <ExcaliBer> now what do i do?
[06:15] <FlannelKing> ExcaliBer: sttooopppp
[06:15] <CNAP> intelikey: what has your experience been with DD?
[06:15] <amphi> intelikey: heh
[06:15] <FlannelKing> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta?highlight=%28Dapper%29
[06:15] <LadyVix> Warbo: I cant run more than 1 program at a time or my system locks up
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> CNAP: The April 20th release.  All else has been alpha, not beta.
[06:15] <CNAP> Excaliber, yes
[06:15] <FlannelKing> few things down, apparently upgrading has been streamlined
[06:15] <FlannelKing> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta
[06:15] <Warbo> LadyVix: Really? Have you messed around with settings a bit or what?
[06:15] <beowuff> paloyme /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:15] <ExcaliBer> lol
[06:15] <ExcaliBer> so am i done?
[06:16] <amphi> paloyme: try 'locate xorg.conf'
[06:16] <paloyme> amphi: thanks
[06:16] <CNAP> tonyyarusso: yes, my bad...alpha not beta, and i've been using dapper drake flight 6 since april 16
[06:16] <LadyVix> Warbo: I didnt screw with anything... this got installed this morning before work... I just got home i havent touched ANy settings
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> CNAP: Ah.
[06:16] <ExcaliBer> i still want dapper
[06:16] <tritium_> #ubuntu+1 for dapper discussions please
[06:16] <Warbo> LadyVix: Hmmm. What kind of hardware? (how old is it?)
[06:17] <amphi> how hot is it? ;)
[06:17] <bert_> amphi: after installing a game such as "xbattle".. with the dpkg command, how do I go about launching it?.. where would it be?
[06:17] <zcat[1] > installed flight4 and been upgrading occasionally ever since.. the occasional glitch but upgrading again later has always brought things right again.
[06:17] <ExcaliBer> GOD YOU fucking bitches arent telling me shit!!!!!!!!!!
[06:17] <ExcaliBer> sorry
[06:17] <intelikey> CNAP my exp with dapper is people in here all the time saying "it hosed my X"  or  "last night's updates broke <blah>"    i've never used it my self.  but even the stable releases  hoary breezy  are not "rock solid"  imo
[06:17] <LadyVix> Warbo: it did that this morning too tried to have 2 firefox windows open and it locked up... left it that way and it was still that way when I got home
[06:17] <CNAP> excaliber: i just told you
[06:17] <zcat[1] > that's what I consider solid.
[06:17] <amphi> bert_: dpkg -L <package_name> will list the files it installed
[06:17] <CNAP> excaliber: sudo apt-get update
[06:17] <bert_> amphi: ok Thanks.
[06:17] <CNAP> excaliber: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base
[06:17] <CNAP> that's it
[06:17] <LadyVix> Warbo: how old is it... well bits and pieces are 3 years or more and others are only 6 months...
[06:18] <CNAP> excaliber: sudo apt-get upgrade ubuntu-base
[06:18] <amphi> LadyVix: what video card?
[06:18] <CNAP> excaliber:replace "install" with "upgrade"
[06:18] <Warbo> LadyVix: Sound a bit peculiar. Are you sure it is not just Firefox? (Sorry, but it may lock up again...) Hardware seems fine to run multiple progs.
[06:18] <FlannelKing> tonyyarusso: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta read third (?) item on that page.  that seems like the recommended upgrade path ,right? er.. CNAP, you too
[06:18] <LadyVix> have Nvidia 6200
[06:18] <LadyVix> ok... i'm going to put a link up....
[06:18] <amphi> LadyVix: driver problem?
[06:18] <FlannelKing> LadyVix: have you tried disabling IPv6?
[06:18] <LadyVix> it has my whole system specs
[06:19] <tritium_> CNAP: you might have noticed I removed him
[06:19] <zcat[1] > I have to admit lots of issues with xgl but that's not an official repo :)
[06:19] <LadyVix> FlannelKing: eh?
[06:19] <Warbo> amphi: Was going to suggest that. Would nvidia be more stable than nv?
[06:19] <FlannelKing> !ipv6
[06:19] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> FlannelKing: Recommended, but probably because it's easier for less techy ppl.  Anyway, we're off topic, so that should probably be it for this thread.
[06:19] <itsmike> have a portable computer for sale - $450 is the amount include ship. case, wireless router.  message if interested on aim at ogd443 or msn at albertaguy1981@hotmail.com if interested
[06:19] <paloyme> how do i edit my xorg.conf? its on read-only:(
[06:19] <amphi> Warbo: dunno, I have an old radeon - I would trust the free driver more than the blob
[06:19] <jiping> ban itsmike
[06:19] <CNAP> tritium_: yeah just did
[06:19] <amphi> paloyme: you must have super cow powers
[06:19] <tritium_> itsmike: please don't advertise here
[06:20] <Warbo> paloyme: Do it as super user (sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[06:20] <intelikey> paloyme / mounted ro ?   remount it.
[06:20] <zcat[1] > itsmike: will you ship to nigeria? my minister needs one!
[06:20] <CNAP> flannelking, yeah well that seems a little easier than what i did but i learned alot more
[06:20] <amphi> zcat[1] : heh
[06:20] <Warbo> amphi: I've had a few problems with ati cards.
[06:20] <CNAP> so what's the difference between "gksudo" and "sudo"
[06:20] <poikol> HI, How can I install dictionaries in OpenOffice ?
[06:20] <janinux2005> quien habla espaol
[06:20] <tritium_> !es
[06:20] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:21] <LadyVix> to all trying to help me... go here    http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view=User.Profile&id=55570
[06:21] <bert_> Ugh!... Does anybody know where I can find a Debian Based WolfET... This is Exhausting trying to figure out how to install the WolfET.run files when it says it's missing a file!...
[06:21] <janinux2005> #ubuntu -es
[06:21] <amphi> Warbo: this one works pretty well with the xorg driver - 750-odd fps with glxgears, enough for celestia and stellarium
[06:21] <Warbo> amphi: Just checked, I'm in ati driver (could be fglrx, could be vesa, that's how stupid it's got)
[06:21] <LadyVix> FlannelKing: I've never used Linux before today. XP crashed and i dont have an install disk...
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> Grub is great, but are there any graphical bootloaders?  (Is that possible?)
[06:21] <Warbo> LadyVix: You can use pastebin you know...
[06:22] <amphi> tonyyarusso: what would they do?
[06:22] <LadyVix> I tried thats when I last locked up
[06:22] <Warbo> tonyyarusso: Smart Boot Manager seems to be a little graphical, but I couldn't get it to work (didn't do what I wanted anyway)
[06:22] <Warbo> LadyVix: Oh.
[06:22] <blindx> I'm having troubles installing Bundle::Xmms ... can someone help me out?
[06:22] <Hexidigital> can someone ping my ftp server to see if they get a response? pm me if you can
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Just have a pretty menu, maybe icons for the choices, if possible mouse support, but that involves drivers and such that would be loaded later.
[06:22] <LadyVix> Warbo: lI've rebooted twice since i came into the IRC client
[06:22] <joshr> what audio player is good
[06:23] <blindx> xmms
[06:23] <titanium_platypu> xmms
[06:23] <titanium_platypu> ^_^
[06:23] <joshr> is mplayer in the repositories?
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> amphi: I've heard of, but not seen, this Boot Camp thing - maybe like that.
[06:23] <disco_stu> Do I have to reboot my router for firewall settings to be changed on it?
[06:23] <amphi> tonyyarusso: icons? ugh ;) all that wouldn't buy you much, really - grub has a shell, what more do you want?
[06:23] <CNAP> joshr: sudo apt-cache search mplayer
[06:23] <joshr> cnap how do i do that?
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Not so much for me as for Windows users that I can talk into dual-booting.
[06:23] <CNAP> go to your term
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> amphi: They're used to graphical stuff.
[06:23] <CNAP> joshr: go to your term
[06:23] <Warbo> LadyVix: Seems like a decent setup. What client are you in by the way (I find XChat crashes anyway)
[06:24] <amphi> tonyyarusso: grub looks like ncurses, should be graphical enough for anyone ;)
[06:24] <dts> I've been my random freezes almost every 1-2 hours of using my computer, is there some sort of test to see if  i have a faulty RAM or hard disk or something that might be causing this?
[06:24] <amphi> tonyyarusso: the winduhs bootloader isn't gui, is it?
[06:24] <amphi> dts: memtest86
[06:24] <bert_> amphi: I went to the location and double clicked the x-executable file, and it did nothing...?
[06:25] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Windows only boots one thing, no choices offered there, it just goes.
[06:25] <amphi> bert_: time for TFM, I guess
[06:25] <intelikey> dts  also  badblocks
[06:25] <bert_> amphi: tfm?.. *Feels very stupid*
[06:25] <LadyVix> Warbo: I'm using Ubuntu version 5.04 right off the disk install... ran the auto updates and upgraded firefox thats all I had time to work with before I left for work this morning
[06:25] <Warbo> tonyyarusso: Give GRUB a nice background. That'll do. Although I have seen a boot disk with icons for different OS's. Still uses keyboard though (and looks like Win95 errr.)
[06:25] <tonyyarusso> Warbo: I've been looking into the grub-splash option.
[06:25] <Warbo> LadyVix: Which program are you in for IRC?
[06:25] <paloyme> what does this mean?
[06:25] <paloyme> (gedit:8403): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[06:25] <paloyme> (gedit:8403): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[06:26] <dts> intelikey, what's that?
[06:26] <blindx> I'm having troubles installing Bundle::Xmms ... can someone help me out?
[06:26] <intelikey> dts man badblocks
[06:26] <LadyVix> *looks up* Warbo i'm in X-Chat {2.4.1}
[06:26] <amphi> tonyyarusso: ntldr can boot other OSes, I hear
[06:26] <amphi> bert_: try running it in a term, and see if it says anything
[06:26] <amphi> tonyyarusso: you could set up ntldr to boot linux also, and then blame windows for the ugliness of the menu ;(
[06:26] <amphi> er, ;)
[06:26] <joshr> cnap nothing happens when i sudo apt-cache search mplayer
[06:26] <amphi> !mplayer
[06:26] <ubotu> from memory, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[06:26] <tritium_> !tell joshr about repos
[06:27] <bert_> amphi: and the command for that would be?
[06:27] <amphi> bert_: the $ADJECTIVE_BEGINNING_WITH_F manual
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Not worth it.  I'll stick with grub.
[06:27] <amphi> bert_: the binary
[06:27] <CNAP> joshr: sudo apt-get update
[06:27] <joshr> i checked the repos for mplayer and dont get anythign
[06:27] <Warbo> LadyVix: Well, just in case I would say go into GAIM. I've had terrible problems with XChat but none with GAIM
[06:27] <bert_> amphi: you lost me...
[06:27] <amphi> bert_: something the package installed to /usr/bin most likely
[06:28] <bert_> amphi: ok so just type the package directory?
[06:28] <bert_> amphi: what do I type before it?
[06:28] <amphi> bert_: no; you should read the docs that came with the package, I think
[06:28] <LadyVix> Warbo: MSN biersremorse@hotmail.com or biersremorse@yahoo.com
[06:28] <jmoncayo> amphi, so i cant fix it? the aterm transparency stuff?
[06:28] <_jason> joshr: have you enabled breezy multiverse?
[06:28] <bert_> amphi: ok
[06:28] <dts> how do i memtest86? do i need to reboot
[06:28] <Warbo> LadyVix: IRC (I'm in GAIM right now)
[06:29] <tritium_> joshr: did you see the URL I had ubotu send you?  You need multiverse
[06:29] <amphi> jmoncayo: not unless you want to hack on the X server ;) I believe this xgl thing provides real alpha-channel amongst other eye-candy
[06:29] <joshr> no i haven't enabled breezy multiverse
[06:29] <jmoncayo> for what do i use memtest86?
[06:29] <bert_> amphi: thanks for your help I'll try another day, i need to learn more about Unix before I continue.. Thanks again.. Later
[06:29] <amphi> dts: yes
[06:29] <LadyVix> Warbo: eh?... dont you have to register it before you can use it that way?
[06:29] <joshr> ok
[06:29] <CarlFK> can http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ handle a 350K paste?  (log file)
[06:29] <joshr> i will try that
[06:29] <tritium_> joshr: that's your problem, then
[06:29] <amphi> jmoncayo: testing memory
[06:29] <joshr> thanks
[06:29] <intelikey> dts yes    it is a boot option on default ub.
[06:30] <amphi> CarlFK: try it ;)
[06:30] <CNAP> joshr: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:30] <dts> amphi, so what happens if i find something?
[06:30] <Warbo> LadyVix: Do you? I put in irc.freenode.net, username Warbo, no password and it log in fine. Am I an idiot?
[06:30] <CNAP> joshr, what do you see?
[06:30] <CarlFK> okee dokee... here goes...
[06:30] <dts> amphi, do i need to replace my memory?
[06:30] <amphi> dts: there's a kernel patch that lets you tell the kernel not to use certain addresses
[06:30] <jmoncayo> amphi, have you hacked the x server before?
[06:30] <amphi> jmoncayo: nope ;)
[06:30] <CarlFK> amphi: you talking about the BadRam patch?
[06:31] <amphi> jmoncayo: I imagine it's pretty horrifying in there
[06:31] <amphi> CarlFK: that's it, I think
[06:31] <jmoncayo> amphi, what file do i need to modify for doing that stuff?
[06:31] <amphi> jmoncayo: many, I expect
[06:31] <LadyVix> Warbo: ok I"m logged in... now what
[06:31] <CarlFK> amphi: there is BadRam and BadMem - forlks or something.  I could never get them to work with 2.6
[06:31] <jmoncayo> amphi, but i dont have that problem on my desktop, its only with this laptop
[06:31] <amphi> CarlFK: I haven't needed to use them, but I read about them
[06:32] <Warbo> LadyVix: First of all open gnome-system-monitor (I think it's in System Tools)
[06:32] <itsmike> have a portable computer for sale - $450 is the amount include ship. case, wireless router.  message if interested on aim at ogd443 or msn at albertaguy1981@hotmail.com if interested
[06:32] <amphi> jmoncayo: dunno - I don't like translucent terms, so I never paid them much heed
[06:32] <tritium_> itsmike: I told you not to advertise in here already!
[06:32] <blindx> I'm having troubles installing Bundle::Xmms ... can someone help me out? ( http://pastebin.com/670707 )
[06:32] <CarlFK> amphi: I had a 256 meg laptop stick that had a few bad bits... could never get it to work, freind looked at it and said "forget it"
[06:32] <CarlFK> hmm, kinda worked: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12579
[06:33] <dts> how would i run badblocks on my primary partition?
[06:33] <amphi> CarlFK: I had some marginal ram in my old t22, but the errors 'moved around', so I just underclocked it a bit
[06:33] <CarlFK> I don't think firefox can deal with a 350k+ web page
[06:33] <LadyVix> Warbo: ok I have that open...
[06:34] <Warbo> LadyVix: What kind of levels are the CPU and RAM in Resources?
[06:34] <nickgarvey> what wolud be the command to compress a folder in tar.gz? I don't understand the man file
[06:34] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: im trying ndiswrapper again
[06:34] <amphi> CarlFK: I opened multi-megabyte html pages in ancient versions of mozilla
[06:34] <Warbo> nickgarvey: tar -xzcf folder (I think)
[06:34] <LadyVix> Warbo: CPU10% but it keeps changing Memory is 23%
[06:35] <Warbo> No!
[06:35] <jmoncayo> amphi, i have other question, i have a python script for my battery status and it seems that my battery is dying, because when i gets complitly charged it says it is at 80% and it used to say 100%
[06:35] <nickgarvey> Warbo: nope, can't be, the x means extract
[06:35] <Warbo> tar -zf archive foler
[06:35] <CarlFK> amphi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12579  the last line I see is # 1927 Apr1918:39:57debconf:<--0multiselectbackupprogresscancel
[06:35] <morfic> Warbo: not x and c, one or the other, c in his case
[06:35] <amphi> jmoncayo: you might need to run it down to recalibrate it
[06:35] <CarlFK> amphi: and then lots of 'emptyness'
[06:35] <Warbo> LadyVix:  OK, so your system isn't under any huge load
[06:35] <LadyVix> Warbo: CPU is 3% now
[06:35] <Warbo> LadyVix: That's normal
[06:36] <blindx> I'm having troubles installing Bundle::Xmms ... can someone help me out? ( http://pastebin.com/670707 )
[06:36] <Warbo> LadyVix: It may have been XChat, I don't know
[06:36] <amphi> CarlFK: line numbers run out at 4941 here, but the file continues...
[06:36] <Warbo> LadyVix: Sadly any testing will result in a crash
[06:36] <LadyVix> Warbo: ok ... tell me the proper way to "upgrade" firefox in Ubuntu
[06:36] <nickgarvey> morfic: wait what shoud I be typing?
[06:36] <LTR2000> how do igive myself permissions to my OWN HOME FOLDER
[06:36] <LadyVix> Warbo: because i just downloaded another copy and extracted it
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> LTR2000,  Hmm.. what did you do that removed them?
[06:36] <nickgarvey> LTR2000: sudo chmod 700 /home/user if you want only ou to be able to see it
[06:37] <amphi> CarlFK: last line I see is "5 logical  378.3 MB   F swap       swap   , , Undo changes to partitions, Finish partitioning and write changes to disk"
[06:37] <morfic> nickgarvey: tar zcf thearchive.tgz thedirtobackup/
[06:37] <LTR2000> nickgarvey
[06:37] <nickgarvey> morfic: thank you
[06:37] <CarlFK> amphi: the file was made with head -n 4940 syslog >syslog4940  so thats about right
[06:37] <amphi> CarlFK: according to w3m it's over a meg
[06:37] <Warbo> LadyVix: System>Administration>Syanptic Package Manager. Reload then Mark All Upgrades then Apply
[06:37] <LTR2000> i want to copy a folder from my NTFS drive to my home folder to burn it
[06:37] <LTR2000> and it says i dont have permissions
[06:37] <blindx> how are you doing it, LTR2000 ?
[06:37] <CarlFK> amphi: the file was 350k - guess threre is a bit of overhead
[06:37] <Warbo> LadyVix: Downloading software from websites? Tsk, tsk. No GPG keys, no dependencies. That's such a windows way of working
[06:37] <morfic> nickgarvey: switch z to j for bzip2 and thus better compression, and now read man tar on those options again ;)
[06:37] <jmoncayo> amphi, well i think so but it means the battery is dying?i am using the /proc/acpi/battery/BATO/state file for this script?
[06:37] <LTR2000> drag and drop
[06:38] <joshr> is there a guide anywhere to uninstall just about everything that comes with ubuntu, like all the programs that are non essential
[06:38] <LadyVix> Warbo: it wouldnt let me said it was as "high" as it would go... and the only "force" was a lower one. and all the "extentions" for firefox woudlnt work with the version of the browser that came with Ubuntu
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> joshr,  check the wikis for ubuntu-light I think
[06:38] <joshr> thanks
[06:38] <cafuego> joshr: What's not essential for you may be for me.
[06:38] <intelikey> hmmm is there a line in /proc/ that contains the current cpu usage ?
[06:38] <joshr> i am trying to remove everything not essential to a media center used pc
[06:38] <Warbo> LadyVix: If you want Firefox 1.5 then there is a guide somewhere (anybody?) but it is also in Dapper
[06:38] <LadyVix> Warbo: *blushes*.. what a GPG?
[06:39] <cafuego> /proc/stat
[06:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell LadyVix about gpg
[06:39] <FlannelKing> !ff
[06:39] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, FlannelKing
[06:39] <FlannelKing> !ff1.5
[06:39] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:39] <amphi> jmoncayo: do 'cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info | grep capacity | head -n2' to see how moribund it is
[06:39] <Warbo> LadyVix: PGP=Pretty Good Privacy. GPG= GNU version. Checks keys to make sure stuff is genuine and from a trusted source
[06:39] <Smirker_L> :P
[06:39] <Warbo> How would LadyVix upgrade Firefox?
[06:40] <intelikey> cafuego danke
[06:40] <jmoncayo> design capacity:         65120 mWh
[06:40] <jmoncayo> last full capacity:      34040 mWh
[06:40] <blindx> I'm having troubles installing Bundle::Xmms ... can someone help me out? ( http://pastebin.com/670707 )
[06:40] <Plitskin> Hi, is there a HOWTO on how to create a startup script? I just want to invoke a single command before X window starts up... I'm trying to disable mouse tapping...
[06:40] <amphi> jmoncayo: so it's degenerated somwhat
[06:40] <Warbo> blindx: I don't get the Bundle:: thing (is it obvious?)
[06:41] <xplore> petrus
[06:41] <blindx> that's the name of it
[06:41] <blindx> it's a perl module
[06:41] <LadyVix> Warbo: Pretty much my life has been "work work... play NWN for a few hours... work work.... I have no life... all I want is my Game back
[06:41] <Warbo> Hello? Upgrading Firefox?
[06:41] <jmoncayo> amphi, why could it be for?
[06:41] <xplore> xpole
[06:41] <amphi> jmoncayo: Lion batteries just degenerate - heat accelerates the decay
[06:41] <Warbo> Something Ubotu knows?
[06:41] <intelikey> Plitskin put your command in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh  just before the  exit 0  at the bottom.
[06:41] <Madpilot> !tell Warbo about ff1.5
[06:41] <LadyVix> Warbo: all I use the browser for is to check the bank balance
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  some of that depends on the window manager.. Gnome has a  gnomerc file i recall - or ya could make a script and put it in the gnome 'session' thats gets ran at startup.. or a dozen other ways to do it.
[06:42] <Warbo> Madpilot: It's actually for LadyVix!
[06:42] <Madpilot> !tell LadyVix about ff1.5
[06:42] <Warbo> Madpilot: Thank you
[06:42] <amphi> jmoncayo: you can reduce heat a bit by undervolting the cpu
[06:42] <blindx> go with lynx for checking bank balances.
[06:42] <blindx> pwn
[06:42] <amphi> w3m
[06:42] <Madpilot> there we go - Warbo anyone can give the bot orders like that, btw
[06:42] <invisage01> Madpilot: what does that !tell stuff do?
[06:42] <Plitskin> Dr_Willis: Thanks, will try that now...
[06:42] <Madpilot> invisage01, gets the bot to send pm
[06:42] <jmoncayo> amphi, so heat is the enemy here, that could be the problem this laptop was on for like three days in a row,
[06:42] <Warbo> madpilot: I didn't know what it was
[06:42] <Madpilot> s to people
[06:42] <zcat[1] > amphi: I tried. Not sure about heat but I managed to reduce stability quite a lot.
[06:43] <Madpilot> bleh, blasted Enter key :P
[06:43] <amphi> jmoncayo: the battery will lose capacity anyway - having them fully charged while not using them for long periods isn't good either
[06:43] <Plitskin> Dr_Willis: do I need to restart my machine after I edit the file?
[06:43] <Warbo> blindx: Lynx? down, down, down, down, down....
[06:44] <blindx> lynx owns. lol
[06:44] <intelikey> links2 -g
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  depends on what you are doing exactly. Theres several ways you could do this.
[06:44] <Warbo> blindx: Lynx is good for finding out why X crashed
[06:44] <zcat[1] > google doesn't like lynx :(
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  exit out of X and relogin back in..  proberly is all ya need.
[06:44] <amphi> zcat[1] : heh - I use mprime in torture mode to find the minimum safe voltages, and it's been stable, even running povray for days at a time
[06:44] <Warbo> zcat: Acceppt the cookie and it's OK
[06:44] <intelikey> links
[06:44] <blindx> Wouldn't it be cool to have a piece of paper... as a web browser?
[06:44] <amphi> zcat[1] : google likes w3m
[06:44] <blindx> I'm going to invent it.
[06:44] <zcat[1] > depends on the version of lynx.. I keep getting refused
[06:45] <LadyVix> Warbo: pardon but now what?
[06:45] <Warbo> blindx: Not if I beat you to the patent office...
[06:45] <Plitskin> Dr_Willis: thanks, I hope I wouldn't have to do any scripting at all though...
[06:45] <blindx> Warbo: gonna sue me? :P
[06:45] <jmoncayo> amphi, oh thats interesting, but in last few days i have been losing capacity extreamly fast
[06:45] <FlannelKing> too late guys, I already postmarked the idea to myself.
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  its a 2 line 'script' ya could make so you got a GDM  menu item as well. :P lol.
[06:45] <blindx> I want to install a USB port right behind my ear.
[06:45] <zcat[1] >  Your client has issued a malformed or illegal request.
[06:45] <Warbo> LadyVix: Well if you have followed the guide then you should have got rid of your downloaded Firefox, which was probably causing those problems.
[06:45] <blindx> just plug in a flash drive..
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  or a 2 line .xinitrc file . if you want to use the console and 'startx'
[06:45] <blindx> learn things in an instant
[06:46] <blindx> omg, i'd install linux on my brain
[06:46] <zcat[1] > error 400..
[06:46] <Warbo> blindx: Well I'm sure Linux would support it. x86, m68k, ppc, brain...
[06:46] <intelikey> blindx not me.   i like linux.  but i'll keep the os i was born with....
[06:46] <Plitskin> Dr_Willis: This whole thing is messing my brain... I hope I could find the time to read about that...
[06:46] <blindx> Well I'd keep the old one.
[06:46] <blindx> use grub
[06:47] <intelikey> lol
[06:47] <Warbo> blindx: Errr. Grub in my brain
[06:47] <zcat[1] > totally appropriate..
[06:47] <intelikey> only if lilo will work..... then i'll think about it.
[06:47] <LadyVix> Warbo: this is what it says libstdc++5 is already newest version
[06:47] <blindx> Anyways, I still need help. lemme doskey up to find my pastebin link.
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  old skool way. :P  create a .xinitrc file for the user. have it run the command (with a & at the end) then run gnome-session.  Startx will startx and run that .xinitrc
[06:47] <Warbo> LadyVix: That means it doesn't need upgrading
[06:47] <blindx> ...I'm having troubles installing Bundle::Xmms ... can someone help me out? ( http://pastebin.com/670707 )
[06:47] <biovore> Warbo: sounds like you need a wood pecker to peck on your head
[06:48] <Warbo> biovore: Well, it's full of holes already
[06:48] <intelikey> biovore  ^5
[06:48] <Plitskin> Dr_WIllis: is it legal to put a command after rm -f /tmp/.clean /var/run/.clean /var/lock/.clean
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,   you mean in the .xinitrc ?
[06:48] <rukuartic> Plitskin: put and && at the end? I think?
[06:48] <Plitskin> nope, the bootmisc.sh
[06:48] <biovore> intelikey: trign to get lilo installed?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> never messed with bootmisc.sh
[06:49] <Warbo> !tell me about ff1.5
[06:49] <paloyme> where can i find the linux source directory?
[06:49] <Warbo> COOL!
[06:49] <Phlosten> rm -r /tmp/.clean && rm -f /var/run/.clean etc
[06:49] <Plitskin> Actually, I'm gonna put it on another line...
[06:49] <paloyme> i mean the kernel sources
[06:49] <Warbo> Oh.
[06:49] <zcat[1] > should be OK to put a command anywhere between '#!/bin/bash' and 'exit 0'
[06:49] <Warbo> paloyme: Usually /lib/modules/kernelversion/build
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> be sure the command will EXIT and not 'hang' the shell..
[06:49] <blindx> Are there any graphical SQL programs out there? >_>
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> or spawn it to the bg with  &
[06:49] <paloyme> thanks warbo
[06:49] <LadyVix> Warbo: *shakes head* I have 2 copies of Firefox on my machine... version 1.08 which came with Ubuntu and version 1.5.0.2 which i downloaded. the 1.08 is the highest available to integrate.
[06:50] <Plitskin> hmmm... ok...
[06:50] <intelikey> Phlosten you know that  && only exec's 2 if 1 completes without error   1 ; 2    will run the both reguardless.
[06:50] <harisund> Does anybody have an idea why my sound input is not working? Ubuntu correctly identified my ESS Maestro3 PCI card, and I can hear all sounds, but it is refusing to record my input. Anything I should do?
[06:50] <Plitskin> sorry for being reduntant but...
[06:50] <Madpilot> LadyVix, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion, if you haven't already
[06:50] <Warbo> LadyVix: Yes. You should always use Ubuntu's packages. The only problem is that Breezy is a little out of date at the moment
[06:50] <Plitskin> should I put the   .xinitrc file in the init.d directory?
[06:50] <Warbo> LadyVix: Do you really need your plugins?
[06:50] <zcat[1] > intelikey: which means it won't happen if any of the .clean files are missing (and thus fail to be rm'd)
[06:50] <Plitskin> or should it be in my home directory?
[06:50] <Phlosten> intelikey, no i didnt, there ya go, I do now ;)
[06:51] <LadyVix> I'm getting So tired of that *shakes head from the fall*
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  TOTALLY wrong.. its a PER user file
[06:51] <harisund> Should I cofigure Line In or microphone or something? I realy want to use Skype and Ekiga and others..
[06:51] <intelikey> Phlosten also of note    1 || 2     2 only runs if 1 fails.    the inverse of &&
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  its read when the user starts X with 'startx'
[06:51] <LadyVix> Warbo: the browser is a side issue... I just want my sound to work... and it doesnt
[06:51] <Phlosten> intelikey, ooh more brain filling goodness
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  nothing to do with init.d or anythign else.
[06:52] <Warbo> LadyVix: If you want latest stuff then go the way of Dapper, but stability is important to us Linux folk (and security, which is intertwined with stability) and a major upgrade like 1.0 to 1.5 is not worth all of the debugging and stabilising so close to Dapper
[06:52] <Patrick_> Is there pornography in the latest version of Ubuntu?
[06:52] <Plitskin> Dr_Willis: where should I place it then? I should be creating one right?
[06:52] <tritium_> no, Patrick_
[06:52] <zcat[1] > Patrick_: there is in mine!
[06:52] <LadyVix> *looks confused* I want my Windows back... i'm so confused here
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  its in the USERS home dir. :P
[06:52] <FlannelKing> Patrick_: no.  there hasn't been that for three versions
[06:52] <Patrick_> Sweet.
[06:52] <Warbo> LadyVix: OK, do you know who makes your soundcard and it's model? (maybe Device Manager?)
[06:53] <intelikey> Phlosten just thought you might want to know if you were playing around in scripts....    it's good to know how to read them...
[06:53] <tritium_> *sigh*
[06:53] <Plitskin> Dr_Willis: thank you so much :D
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  same as wll the other .whatever files (note the .)
[06:53] <harisund> what is the difference between microphone and line in? Which should I enable to start chating on Skype, Ekiga etc/
[06:53] <Warbo> LadyVix: Linux is LOGICAL. There is a big difference between Linux and Windows
[06:53] <Phlosten> intelikey, its all good, I am slowly learning scripts etc, so it all helps
[06:53] <nickgarvey> line in is.. blue?
[06:53] <intelikey> Plitskin put your command in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh  just before the  exit 0  at the bottom.
[06:53] <harisund> And should I be using Alsa or OSS? /me is totally confused when it comes to audio input?
[06:53] <nickgarvey> I think?
[06:53] <LadyVix> Warbo:   http://www3.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=PSC724/17&scy=US&slg=en
[06:53] <LTR2000> how do i copy a folder to my desktop in terminal
[06:53] <intelikey> ^ that's a repete from the first time Phlosten asked.
[06:54] <Warbo> LadyVix: Oh yeah...
[06:54] <nickgarvey> LTR2000: cp /path/to/folder ~/Desktop
[06:54] <nickgarvey> LTR2000: wait no
[06:54] <nickgarvey> LTR2000: cp -are /path/to/folder ~/Desktop
[06:54] <LadyVix> Warbo the other is onboard soundchip with the Shuttle MB
[06:54] <nickgarvey> what?!
[06:54] <nickgarvey> LTR2000: cp -R /path/to/folder ~/Desktop
[06:54] <nickgarvey> do not auto correct me!
[06:54] <nickgarvey> so how are you
[06:54] <nickgarvey> I DID NOT TYPE THAT!
[06:55] <LadyVix> Warbo: I have had sound issues with drivers even with windows
[06:55] <LadyVix> but never with the onboard only the philips
[06:55] <paloyme> what does # in a terminal do?
[06:56] <nickgarvey> hmm... what is this midnight commander...
[06:56] <nickgarvey> paloyme: makes everything after it not part of the command
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> paloyme,  you really MAY want to goole for a bash tutorial or 3.
[06:56] <paloyme> so its like a comment?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> it is a comment. :P
[06:56] <nickgarvey> paloyme: exactly
[06:56] <paloyme> .... :(
[06:56] <Warbo> LadyVix: You know why I hate Windows? Because of the Winfixer 2006 Your computer may have Registry errors.... message I just got looking for your driver
[06:56] <Plitskin> ok, edit the bootmis.sh is what I did... Now I will restart my system... thanks everyone...
[06:56] <paloyme> paloyme,  you really MAY want to goole for a bash tutorial or 3, whats a 3?
[06:56] <Warbo> :(
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  you dident put an X related command in there did ya?
[06:57] <intelikey> paloyme or even   man bash   and read it through.
[06:57] <King-of-no-pants> FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found
[06:57] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: same thing happend to be..
[06:57] <zcat[1] > Warbo: go on.. click on it.. it's fun to see how far that stuff can get under wine :)
[06:57] <Plitskin> Dr_illis: this is the only command I put there... tpconfig --tapmode=0
[06:57] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: how did I fix it...
[06:57] <Phlosten> cyphase, i got them ;)
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  oh.. thats fine. :P
[06:57] <cyphase> lol
[06:57] <bert__> Ok, And I return... Still searching for a Debian Based Game, anyone have any idea?
[06:57] <harisund> Breezy has correctly identified my sound card ESS Maestro3 PCI. Sound output is awesome. However, it is unable to record my voice. Do i choose ALSA or OSS? Do I choose microphone or line in? What should I do to start using Skype, Ekiga etc?
[06:57] <LadyVix> Warbo: What is Winfixer? and registry errors? how can that be since this is a fresh wiped harddrive that i installed to
[06:57] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: Id love to know
[06:57] <Plitskin> Dr_Willis: I hope I wouldn't crash my system :D
[06:58] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: have your kernel sources?
[06:58] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: ?
[06:58] <Plitskin> Dr_Willis: all this trouble just to disable the touchpad lolz
[06:58] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: guess not, second
[06:58] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: you mean an install cd?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,   trivial really.
[06:58] <LTR2000> how come there is an X beside the folders
[06:58] <Warbo> LadyVix: No no, just a spam popup thing (wow, I can really get registry errors in Linux :)) Anyway I found a page from 2005 which said there are no drivers. Maybe there are now though
[06:58] <bert__> Can anybody find me a Debian Based version of Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, or any Multiplayer game, of the sort?
[06:58] <melaren> My computer seems to freeze up cold when playing music through rhythmbox.  How would I go about pinpointing the cause?
[06:58] <Plitskin> ok, brb
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> Plitskin,  it will now take ya all of like 20 sec to do again if ya needed to
[06:59] <titanium_platypu> I am trying to learn Flightgear
[06:59] <zcat[1] > Plitskin: suggestion; lift keyboard; unplug touchpad; replace keyboard.
[06:59] <Warbo> LadyVix: Put the output of "lspci" into pastebin please
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> My Laptop has an OFF button on it next to the touchpad.
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:59] <titanium_platypu> the lat. and long. in the HUD doesn't change no matter what airport I go to
[06:59] <titanium_platypu> what the deuce?
[06:59] <eggzeck> apt-cache search <programname>
[06:59] <intelikey> trubble.... edit one init script, add one command.....   trubble ?
[06:59] <eggzeck> oops, sorry that was meant for somewhere else...
[06:59] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: did you compile your own or use ndiswrapper from the repositories?
[07:00] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: i used ndiswrapper from the synaptic package manager
[07:00] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: I uninstalled it earlier today, because it was crashing my system
[07:00] <LadyVix> Warbo: try this one.... http://www3.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?scy=US&slg=AEN&cat=PC_AUDIO_CA&sct=SOUNDCARDS_SU&session=20060420010018_69.69.196.154&grp=MONITORS_PC_PERIPHERALS_GR&ctn=PSC724/17&mid=Link_Software&hlt=Link_Software
[07:00] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: are you comfortable compiling your own programs? its a breeze trust e
[07:00] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: I went through and deleted every thing that said ndiswrapper, just like the ndiswrapper wiki told me to
[07:01] <bert__> I take it as, Not a soul in here, can help me, out of almost 700 People, Nobody.. Well I guess I'm screwed.. :)
[07:01] <LadyVix> Warbo: and how do I do that? and where is lspci?
[07:01] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: if you can lead me through it, I'll do it
[07:01] <melaren> Help Please.  My computer seems to freeze up cold when playing music through rhythmbox.  How would I go about pinpointing the cause?
[07:01] <zcat[1] > bert__: what was teh question?
[07:01] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: good, apt-get remove ndiswrapper-utils, rm -are /etc/ndiswrapper, rm -are /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper
[07:01] <Warbo> LadyVix: Open a terminal (Applications>Accessories>Terminal) and type lspci
[07:01] <nickgarvey> WHERE IT SAYS ARE PUT R
[07:01] <nickgarvey> (twitch)
[07:01] <nickgarvey> let me turn that off..
[07:02] <cowlikk> does anyone know how i can access my windows network
[07:02] <LadyVix> Warbo: *blinks* em... now what?
[07:02] <bert__> zcat[1] : I need to find a Debian based war game, LIke Wolfenstein: enemy territoriy, I did find WolfET, for Linux, but it's a .run file and it says that it failed the installation at this x86/glibc-2.1...so I figured I could find a Debian based one, and make things easier on myself.
[07:02] <FlannelKing> cowlikk: samba
[07:02] <nickgarvey> !tell cowlikk about samba
[07:02] <Warbo> LadyVix: It give you loads of crazy writing? copy it into pastebin please
[07:02] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: ok is ndiswrapper gone?
[07:03] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: and you are sure you have the right drivers?
[07:03] <cowlikk> how do i get/use samba
[07:03] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: not yet, almost
[07:03] <nickgarvey> cowlikk: look at the link ubotu sent you
[07:03] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: yeah, ive got the right drivers
[07:03] <eneried> hello
[07:03] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: ok tell me when ndiswrapper is gone
[07:03] <eneried> me now
[07:03] <LadyVix> how do i get to pastebin ?
[07:03] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: ok
[07:03] <nickgarvey> !tell LadyVix about paste
[07:03] <eneried> me again, sorry
[07:03] <nickgarvey> you better be sorry!
[07:03] <nickgarvey> looking for help in a support channel
[07:03] <nickgarvey> what's wrong with you
[07:03] <reter> how can one add java in hoary
[07:03] <Warbo> LadyVix: pastebin.com
[07:04] <SD> samba
[07:04] <zcat[1] > bert__: package management is good. search in synaptic and see what's already available. Much easier than trying to get some random installer to work.
[07:04] <nickgarvey> reter: hoary? sure you still want to run that?
[07:04] <mi> hi just a first run
[07:04] <reter> !tell reter java
[07:04] <eneried> er... did you know how the next ubuntu wwill be released? i read somewhere that they are planing to ship it in DVD format but i dunno
[07:04] <nickgarvey> !tell reter about java
[07:04] <tritium_> eneried: in June
[07:04] <nickgarvey> eneried: I'd say.. download
[07:04] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: invalid option -- a
[07:04] <bert__> zcat[1] : Ok, Do you have Step - by - Step on how to do this, FYI, This is my first day on Linux.. I'm slowly learning...So... Where do I begin? :)
[07:04] <invisage01> !tell invisage01 about java
[07:04] <eggzeck> eneried, or upgrade with apt
[07:05] <LadyVix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12582
[07:05] <eneried> hehe
[07:05] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: where it says "are" put "r" that was my autocorrenting IM
[07:05] <King-of-no-pants> nice
[07:05] <eneried> but now we're interested in the release form, because we want to work with ubuntu
[07:05] <LadyVix> Warbo: did you get that?    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12582
[07:05] <zcat[1] > alt-F2, type 'synaptic', enter your password..
[07:05] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: while removing ndiswrapper-utils, directory `/etc/ndiswrapper' not empty so not removed.
[07:06] <mikeo1> anyone here using xgl?
[07:06] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: put -r after rm
[07:06] <Warbo> LadyVix: You're root???!!!
[07:06] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: rm -r /etc/ndiswrapper
[07:06] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: rm -r /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper
[07:06] <eneried> and we want to have the packages for offline instalations, we want to use ubuntu with offline instalations, for example, in installations to schools and offices
[07:06] <nickgarvey> eneried: look into edubuntu?
[07:06] <Warbo> LadyVix: You better not be logged in as root grahically!
[07:06] <eneried> yes i looked edubuntu too
[07:07] <LadyVix> Warbo: *shrugs* i'll Unroot myself later
[07:07] <reter> whats wrong with hoary
[07:07] <zcat[1] > mikeo1: I was.. later updates broke it..
[07:07] <eggzeck> why can't she be logged in as root? :P
[07:07] <LadyVix> i'm not...
[07:07] <tritium_> nothing, reter.  There's just a newer stable release.
[07:07] <eneried> but i want to get ubuntu in dvds like we can do with debian, but peersonaly i preffer ubuntu over debian
[07:07] <LadyVix> Warbo: i'm logged in as user in the GUI
[07:07] <andreww> hello
[07:07] <Warbo> LadyVix: OK. First thing's first, don't be root. (OMG, do these Windows users know nothing? Downloading software and running it as root? Then asking why it crashes?)
[07:07] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: cannot remove `/etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper': no such file or directory
[07:08] <Warbo> LadyVix: Did you sudo -s -H or sudo -i?
[07:08] <eneried> ubuntu is more end-user oriented than any other linux distro, and even windows
[07:08] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: sounds good to me
[07:08] <zcat[1] > bert__: you got that far?
[07:08] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: apt-get install subversion
[07:08] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: me too
[07:08] <Warbo> LadyVix: Well it sees your AC 97 (as we knew)
[07:08] <andreww> has anyone got Ubuntu working with Bell Sympatico?
[07:08] <bert__> zcat[1] : no because I'm not logged in under root, so how would I do it in terminal, to get that far?...
[07:08] <LadyVix> Warbo: I didnt login as root... and i dont know how to do that.... I opened the terminal window it opened as root and asked for password *shrugs*
[07:09] <Warbo> LadyVix: Oh no...
[07:09] <zcat[1] > bert__: don't need to be root, just the first user (you're using ubuntu right?) in the gui
[07:09] <Warbo> LadyVix: You didn't use the dreaded Automatix did you?
[07:09] <LadyVix> Warbo: dont go having palpatations on me... and whats that?
[07:09] <nickgarvey> don't say that word Warbo!
[07:09] <FlannelKing> that's a no ;)
[07:09] <Warbo> LadyVix: Nothing nothing.....
[07:10] <Warbo> Speak of it and it shall install...
[07:10] <LadyVix> Warbo: I used the Ubuntu installer that came on the disk.... i installed  yesterday at about 9am...
[07:10] <bert__> zcat[1] : Yes, I am using Ubuntu, and it says this when I try to do what you said, "You must run this program as root user"
[07:10] <Warbo> LadyVix: OK.
[07:10] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: alright
[07:10] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: thats setup
[07:10] <melaren> What do you guys think about easyubuntu?  Any problems with it?
[07:10] <zcat[1] > bert__: I'm assuming a fairly normal ubuntu install, let me know if you chose server or kubuntu or did something else that breaks my assumptions :)
[07:10] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: copy this command
[07:10] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: "svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ndiswrapper/trunk/ndiswrapper ndiswrapper"
[07:10] <Madpilot> bert__, which tutorial are you following? URL, please?
[07:10] <Warbo> LadyVix: Well, for a start have you tried your speakers in the on board sound?
[07:10] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: without the "
[07:10] <intelikey> i had no idea there was so much software devoted to GAMEs in linux    apt-cache search game | less
[07:11] <eneried> does anybody know where to download DVDs or CDs with unioverse and multiverse?
[07:11] <bert__> madpilot: I'm not following any tutorial.. zcat[1]  is helping me.
[07:11] <Madpilot> intelikey, try Same Gnome, if you like puzzle games
[07:11] <cowlikk> how do i use samba
[07:11] <nickgarvey> !samba
[07:11] <bert__> zcat[1] : I did the workstation, and it's Dapper I think...
[07:11] <Warbo> eneried: Don't think it can be done
[07:11] <ubotu> somebody said samba was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[07:11] <intelikey> Madpilot i've seen that/
[07:11] <LadyVix> Warbo: thats the first thing i did was switch my speakers to the output on the MB... but nada
[07:11] <nickgarvey> cowlikk: go there
[07:11] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: done?
[07:12] <zcat[1] > bert__: ok.. you probably want a desktop install first. not a lot of stuff (games in particular) is going to work from the console
[07:12] <intelikey> Madpilot actually i don't play games.....  hardly ever.    too old for such.
[07:12] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: yep
[07:12] <eneried> Warbo, so that DVDs doesn't exist?
[07:12] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: cd ndis(hit tab for autocomplete)
[07:12] <hupp3l> hey
[07:12] <hupp3l> how can I access files from my windows partition?
[07:12] <bert__> zcat[1] : are you kidding me.... ?... so I have to reformat it again?.. or is there another option that's less painful :)
[07:12] <kaha> *46 and plays games*
[07:12] <zcat[1] > solid_liq: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   .. and wait a few hours :)
[07:12] <mia> hey
[07:12] <Warbo> LadyVix: (wishing there was the Fedora Sound Test thingy on Ubuntu) well it's probably trying to use the soundin your Phillips stuff. Let's tell it to use AC 97 which works
[07:12] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: could not read status line: secure connection truncated
[07:13] <Madpilot> bert__, you can install the full desktop on top of the server/workstation install
[07:13] <Whyvas> hupp3l, google mounting ntfs ubuntu
[07:13] <intelikey> !tell hupp3l about ntfs
[07:13] <melaren> Warbo: what do you think about easyubuntu?
[07:13] <bert__> Madpilot: How do I do that?
[07:13] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: wait what? what did you do?
[07:13] <FlannelKing> easyUbuntu is good! auto- is bad!
[07:13] <Warbo> eneried: There is no DVD (AFAIK) of Universe and Multiverse, and Canonical would never make one to include with Dapper
[07:13] <King-of-no-pants> the svn co https
[07:13] <LadyVix> Warbo: and how do I do that?
[07:13] <Madpilot> bert__, at the command line, type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" w/o the quotes
[07:13] <zcat[1] > sorry
[07:13] <zcat[1] > bert__: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   .. and wait a few hours :)
[07:13] <Warbo> melaren: I haven't heard much bad about it. I use neither (I like Linux to be Linux)
[07:13] <bert__> Madpilot: Eh.. How long will that take...*scared*
[07:13] <Warbo> LadyVix: I'm getting to that
[07:14] <eneried> oh bad notice
[07:14] <bert__> zcat[1] : Oh ok
[07:14] <insta> Does anyone have an easy way, from a CLI machine, send an MP3 playlist to a ShoutCAST ( *not* IceCAST ) server?
[07:14] <FlannelKing> eneried: ubuntu isn't like debian where you can download oodles of packages on CD, although you can download the debs of the stuff you want, burn to CDs, and install them locally.
[07:14] <LadyVix> Warbo: I'm sorry i get grumpy when my computer doesnt work right... I havent killed any trolls in about a week because of it
[07:14] <hupp3l> thank you
[07:14] <melaren> Warbo: Ok cool.  Yeah, so the general consensus seems to be that automatix is evil?
[07:14] <Madpilot> bert__, it's a big batch of downloads - probably a few hundred Mb, I really don't know
[07:14] <Warbo> LadyVix: Simple thing to try first: Preferences > Sound
[07:14] <eneried> how good or bad is the idea of using Ubuntu with Debian packages?
[07:14] <bert__> Madpilot: uh.. error already..
[07:14] <zcat[1] > bert__: actually it will probably grab most of it off the CD
[07:15] <intelikey> any time hupp3l
[07:15] <zcat[1] > eneried: very very bad.
[07:15] <Whyvas> is there a gui to pick your default window manager???
[07:15] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: here we go
[07:15] <LadyVix> Warbo: thats the first thing i tried ws the in GUI preferences... but ok...
[07:15] <bert__> Madpilot: One second, I will try this.. it says to do this instead, apt get -f..
[07:15] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: ok type uname -r and copy and paste the number here
[07:15] <Warbo> melaren: Yes. It does stuff without asking and crazy things like binding System Monitor to ctrl-alt-delete
[07:15] <intelikey> eneried bad idea.
[07:15] <eneried> bad? even using Debian release newer than ubuntu release?
[07:15] <Warbo> LadyVix: Do you get multiple options in the device box?
[07:15] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: wait, what about the cd ndis
[07:15] <bert__> Madpilot: Still didn't work.. Hm..
[07:15] <melaren> Warbo: k, thanks.
[07:15] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: you did it right?
[07:15] <King-of-no-pants> no
[07:16] <zcat[1] > ubuntu is sometimes compatable with debian packages.. but don't rely on it.
[07:16] <Madpilot> bert__, what's the full error message (pastebin if it's more than one line)
[07:16] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: do it, then paste what I told you
[07:16] <bert__> zcat[1] :
[07:16] <bert__> zcat[1] : ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[07:16] <bert__> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[07:16] <bert__> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:16] <bert__>   xbattle: Depends: xlibs (> 4.1.0) but it is not going to be installed
[07:16] <bert__> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[07:16] <insta> ideas?  anyone?
[07:16] <nickgarvey> !tell bert__ about paste
[07:16] <reter> chmod +x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[07:16] <intelikey> eneried yes, bad idea.  because just because it's a .deb  doesn't mean it's compiled against the same glibc
[07:16] <hupp3l> but i dont understand then it looks like it is already mounted in media
[07:16] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: no such file or directory
[07:16] <hupp3l> hda1 so why cant i access it
[07:16] <reter> i did this command and it doesnt find the downloaded file. chmod +x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[07:16] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: hit tab.. after ndis...
[07:16] <zcat[1] > bert__: sudo apt-get -f install   sounds like it might help :)
[07:16] <LadyVix> Warbo: under Sound i dont have much of a selection but nothing to select input or output
[07:17] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: autocomplete..
[07:17] <hupp3l> it asks me to be root
[07:17] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey:neato
[07:17] <Warbo> LadyVix: Hmmm...
[07:17] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: ok
[07:17] <hupp3l> but when i go sudo cd /media/hda1
[07:17] <bert__> zcat[1]  did that, and got the same error
[07:17] <Madpilot> bert__, pastebin! - but it looks like you've already got the desktop installed
[07:17] <hupp3l> it wont help
[07:17] <zcat[1] > hmmmm..
[07:17] <intelikey> it's   !borked    but i'm not rewriting that command.
[07:17] <LadyVix> Warbo: under Multimedia i have a selection
[07:17] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: now what?
[07:17] <Madpilot> bert__, in Ubuntu, do you have a graphical desktop, or just the command line?
[07:17] <Warbo> Dammit, no alsa-setup thingy like Debian
[07:17] <eneried> um, so working in that way is not recommended
[07:17] <eneried> so if use debian dvds was a not good idea, where we can get universe or multiverse for offline use?
[07:18] <gpd> my nvidia kernel verison is busted in dapper - is this known?
[07:18] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: wait I think I can do this a cool way
[07:18] <bert__> Madpilot: Graphical, I assume..(Mind ye', first day ever on Linux..speak Lamens) :)
[07:18] <tritium_> Warbo: it was buggy, and not maintained
[07:18] <LadyVix> Warbo: I tried Debian first... the night before last... but i kept getting Xwindow could not start
[07:18] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:18] <eneried> we found some at cargol.net, but there're not amd64 or mac packages :(
[07:18] <Warbo> tritium_: Yeah, but I don;t understand alsactrl
[07:18] <hupp3l> intelikey: it is already mounted in media/hda1
[07:18] <LadyVix> and it went to command promt...
[07:18] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: that would be pretty sweet if that command worked, which it looks like it will
[07:18] <intelikey> gpd not by those that claim that dapper is "rock solid"
[07:18] <Madpilot> bert__, do you have a brown desktop, and pretty stuff, or just a little text prompt?
[07:18] <hupp3l> why cant i access it though, i know i need to be as root
[07:19] <Warbo> LadyVix: I forgot Multimedia Selector is in Breezy actually! (I spent a while testing my webcam in Dapper, worked straight away in Ekiga)
[07:19] <cowlikk> argggg
[07:19] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: replace uname with my username?
[07:19] <bert__> madpilot: I already changed the background of the desktop, but it was a cool lookin' blue one at first, if that helps.
[07:19] <gpd> intelikey: nvidia driver was fine until yesterday - now i get version conflict  - i suppose it will be fixed soon :)
[07:19] <hupp3l> hupp3l@huplinux:~/Desktop$ sudo cd /media/hda1/
[07:19] <hupp3l> sudo: cd: command not found
[07:19] <bert__> Madpilot: I updated to dapper today
[07:19] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: no don't replace anything
[07:19] <Madpilot> bert__, if it was blue, you're probably running Kubuntu, yes?
[07:19] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:19] <Phlosten> xfce?
[07:19] <LadyVix> Warbo: eh? only the first sentence did i understand there...
[07:19] <intelikey> hupp3l gksudo nautilus       and browse there.
[07:19] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: put that exactly
[07:19] <Warbo> LadyVix: OK, you will get some options in Multimedia, but they all point to ALSA (eventually) and ALSA ain't working
[07:19] <paloyme> what could be missing from my firefox? i cant seem to find any plug ins that could help me browse in this site... www.eriworld.net, then go to "student logins"
[07:19] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: neato
[07:20] <bert__> Madpilot: I don't think so??... when it loads, it says Ubuntu..
[07:20] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: its going
[07:20] <LadyVix> Warbo: exactly
[07:20] <gpm> when's dapper coming out (or planned to come out)?
[07:20] <Phlosten> 1st june
[07:20] <hupp3l> huh gksudo nautilus????
[07:20] <intelikey> gpd yeah i hope,  i was taking a poke at another guy with the "rock solid"  comment.
[07:20] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: good
[07:20] <Madpilot> bert__, I think we're both confused... :P what exactly are you trying to do?
[07:20] <eneried> Dapper have the code of ubuntu 6.06 i think on june
[07:20] <Warbo> LadyVix: Doesn't matter (The Multimedia Selector is not in Dapper Drake version of Ubuntu which I use at home)
[07:20] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: tell me when its done
[07:20] <LadyVix> Warbo: Several months ago I installed Ubuntu and sound worked.... but it doesnt now...
[07:20] <chiwawa_42> why the hell did I get a ban on #ubuntu+1?
[07:20] <bert__> Madpilot: Actually it was Gold, As you said up there.
[07:20] <majd> Hi, i find that java uses a rediculous amount of memory...is this just my computer/java/or my installation?
[07:20] <cowlikk> is there GUI program to access network
[07:20] <Warbo> LadyVix: Same version?
[07:20] <chiwawa_42> could anyone check and remove the ban plz?
[07:20] <nickgarvey> chiwawa_42: probably because you did something stupid..
[07:21] <gpd> intelikey: worked it out... i am booted into an old kernel due to /boot being on my Breezy partition and having to update manually :)
[07:21] <Warbo> LadyVix: Did you have the Phillips card plugged in?
[07:21] <chiwawa_42> nickgarvey, certainly not
[07:21] <Madpilot> chiwawa_42, ban on who, for what?
[07:21] <bert__> Madpilot: Yes, I am lost, I am trying to get Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, on my computer, But it's mostly for Windows, well I found a Linux version, downloaded it, it was a .RUN, File... so I installed it, but it failed the install..
[07:21] <LadyVix> Warbo: no...its one i downloaded and burned to a cd it wasnt Hoary Hedgehog... was the one after it
[07:21] <chiwawa_42> Madpilot, ban on me, no reason at all
[07:21] <Toma-> bert__: how did it fail?
[07:21] <Madpilot> bert__, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory
[07:21] <bert__> Madpilot: so now I am searching for a Debian based Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, or at LEAST, a game related to FPS of that sort, taht will work on my Nixbox
[07:21] <Warbo> LadyVix: Well that might be the problem. Do you mind upgrading?
 hupp3l gksudo nautilus       and browse there.
[07:21] <LadyVix> Warbo: of course the philips card is plugged  in.... the speakers are plugged into the MB...
[07:21] <hupp3l> what is that?
[07:21] <Madpilot> chiwawa_42, here? unlikely to be "for no reason at all"...
[07:21] <mimm> hi, is there some way to get a kblayout switch key to the toolbar in fluxbox?
[07:22] <chiwawa_42> Madpilot, on #ubuntu+1
[07:22] <eneried> then... nobody knows where to find universe or multiverse for offline use? maybe jigdo, torrent, DVD iso or something...
[07:22] <LadyVix> Warbo: I'm not sure I have the patience to download again... how long that take?
[07:22] <Warbo> LadyVix: I meant WERE they plugged in BEFORE (so AC 97 was used instead)
[07:22] <Phlosten> chiwawa_42, the ban probably isnt on your specifically, might be on a hostname that resembles yours?
[07:22] <chiwawa_42> Madpilot, my last chat there was about network manager
[07:22] <paloyme> what do i use to open a .bin file?
[07:22] <ubuntu_> hello
[07:22] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: done
[07:22] <nickgarvey> eneried: you want to download the entire repositories?
[07:22] <Madpilot> chiwawa_42, sorry, I don't have ops for #ubuntu+1, afaik...
[07:22] <chiwawa_42> Phlosten, i hope so, but it's still anoying
[07:22] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: make && make install
[07:22] <intelikey> paloyme sh
[07:22] <ubuntu_> alguienhaba es apol
[07:22] <LadyVix> Warbo: no... had no other card at the time ... that was the only reason onboard was enabled anyway
[07:22] <intelikey> paloyme sh file.bin
[07:22] <eneried> nickgarvey, yes, we want to have them for offline use
[07:22] <Warbo> LadyVix: If you have simple install not long at all. Go in terminal as root (or even better use sudo) and do nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:22] <paloyme> thanks
[07:23] <chiwawa_42> Phlosten, i'm looking forward to give some feedbaclk about the new artwork on dapper
[07:23] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: make: command not found
[07:23] <paloyme> do you know any shortcut keys to open terminal?
[07:23] <Madpilot> chiwawa_42, actually, I do have ops there - just a minute
[07:23] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: bah ok
[07:23] <LadyVix> lol how do I get from root to user and i've never used Sudo so i dont know how
[07:23] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: apt-get install build-essential
[07:23] <chiwawa_42> Madpilot, thanks
[07:23] <ubuntu_> alguien habla espaol
[07:23] <nickgarvey> !es
[07:23] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:23] <bert__> Madpilot: Without hesitation, You just solved my problem, it failed at the libgtkl.2 and now I can get that and try it again.
[07:23] <eneried> ubuntu_, try joining to #ubuntu-es chanel, and... yo hablo espaol :)
[07:23] <intelikey> paloyme that is wm specific and can be altered   so, no.
[07:23] <kaha> Holy carp, I just figured out that Rhythmbox is *excellent*.
[07:23] <Warbo> LadyVix: If you are root then use that. Type "nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[07:24] <bur[n] er> to all you comcast users out there, are you noticing crazy speed issues and connectivity problems?
[07:24] <Warbo> kaha: Haven't tried it for a while. Can it match Amarok yet?
[07:24] <bur[n] er> amarok > all... still
[07:24] <Warbo> bur[n] er: lol
[07:24] <LadyVix> Warbo: now what?
[07:24] <kaha> Warbo: dunno, haven't tried Amarok in quite awhile.
[07:25] <Madpilot> chiwawa_42, I can't see any ban in place at #ubuntu+1 that would keep you out - try again
[07:25] <eneried> nickgarvey: do you know where to download or get the entire repositories?
[07:25] <Warbo> LadyVix: Look for anything which says "hoary" and replace with "breezy"
[07:25] <chiwawa_42> Madpilot, * Impossible de rejoindre #ubuntu+1 (Vous tes banni).
[07:25] <nickgarvey> eneried: that's a lot of stuff... I'd try the forums...
[07:25] <paloyme> intelikey: whats wm?
[07:25] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: done
[07:25] <Warbo> paloyme: window manager (metacity in GNOME)
[07:25] <bur[n] er> wm == window manager... for example... metacity, kwin, xfwm, fluxbox, etc.
[07:26] <intelikey> paloyme your wm (window manager) is probably gnome
[07:26] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: make uninstall
[07:26] <chiwawa_42> Madpilot, anything on abo.wanadoo.fr ?
[07:26] <intelikey> or metacity    more specifically
[07:26] <chiwawa_42> Madpilot, many lusers on this ISP...
[07:26] <Madpilot> chiwawa_42, nope, not on +1
[07:26] <nickgarvey> can you string commands, like "command && command2 && command3"? or will it only work with 2?
[07:26] <Warbo> LadyVix: If you are very adventurous (and you want firefox 1.5) then you MAY want to go for Dapper Drake. It seems stable, but still isn't finalised. Would save two upgrades
[07:26] <chiwawa_42> Madpilot, well, i still can't join anyhow
[07:26] <intelikey> bur[n] er   :p
[07:27] <nickgarvey> Warbo: hoary to dapper isn't support I don't think
[07:27] <Madpilot> nickgarvey, you can go at least three with && - I've never tried deeper, but I suspect you could keep going...
[07:27] <eneried> we had the breezy universe and multiverse, because we're about to sell some computers with ubuntu installed, Now, we want to be ready for dapper :D
[07:27] <Warbo> nickgarvey: OK, thanks
[07:27] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: not all installed files are removed, run uninstall as many times as necessary until no removing messages appear...
[07:27] <LadyVix> Warbo: ok... how long of a download tho...
[07:27] <bert__> Madpilot: Ok, Thank you for your help, I think I figured it out, I'md ownloading it from that website there, and I installed the package already, and that's where it stopped last time, so we will see what happens :)
[07:27] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: no you are good
[07:27] <bert__> Madpilot: I will update you, as it happens.
[07:27] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: make && make install
[07:27] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: ok
[07:27] <chiwawa_42> Madpilot, thanks for trying anyway, i hope it'll be dropped soon
[07:27] <Warbo> LadyVix: On 1Mb broadband maybe 1/2 hour? I'm not sure. Porbably less
[07:27] <tritium> chiwawa_42: there are no bans set that would prevent you from joining
[07:27] <Madpilot> chiwawa_42, yeah, the banlist for +1 is very short, and there's nothing I can see that would keep you out
[07:27] <majd> what's Xorg?
[07:28] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: error 2
[07:28] <Warbo> LadyVix: Once you have changed them press ctrl-x then "y" for yes and enter for filename
[07:28] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: damn paste it in the pastebin
[07:28] <intelikey> http://X.org
[07:28] <LadyVix> so change everything that i woulda have changed to breezy to Dapper Drake?
[07:28] <King-of-no-pants> cant
[07:28] <chiwawa_42> tritium, Madpilot who's the main OP on ubuntu+1?
[07:28] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: im on a different comp
[07:28] <FlannelKing> eneried: you can go through the process of mirroring, and then you'll have them locally, whether or not you mirror publically.
[07:28] <Warbo> LadyVix: apparently not. Just go with breezy
[07:28] <LadyVix> *shrugs* okies
[07:28] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: isnt there a way to override bans?
[07:28] <nickgarvey> LadyVix: I suggest you go to breezy then go to dapper
[07:29] <Warbo> nickgarvey: Yes
[07:29] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: I don't understand
[07:29] <Madpilot> Hobbsee, no idea - but like I said, the banlist at +1 is very short - only six or seven entries
[07:29] <chiwawa_42> Hobbsee, there is no legal (in the netiquette sense) way to do so
[07:29] <eneried> mirroring, ummm, it sounds good :)
[07:29] <tritium> chiwawa_42: there are a few of us
[07:29] <King-Of-Pants> alright
[07:29] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: well that's what i thought
[07:29] <King-Of-Pants> nickgarvey: where is the pastebin?
[07:29] <eneried> do you know where is the mirroring process described?
[07:29] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[07:29] <kaha> LadyVix: it's worth it. Dapper rocks.
[07:29] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[07:30] <beruic> Sometimes when I boot, my harddisk is checked for errors. Is there a way to see the log for this or to force it to do it again?
[07:30] <chiwawa_42> tritium, i'll try again when I'll move this afternoon, we have another ISP in our secondary office ;)
[07:30] <padre_scl> hola
[07:30] <nickgarvey> beruic: man fsck
[07:30] <LadyVix> kaha: maybe ...
[07:30] <nickgarvey> !es
[07:30] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:30] <blindx> anyone in here by the name of Luis Otavio?
[07:30] <LadyVix> Warbo: i've changed the word... now what?
[07:30] <beruic> nickgarvey: thx :)
[07:30] <intelikey> Q: upgrading  can you skip a version ?   i.e. 5.4 to 6.6 ?
[07:30] <chiwawa_42> blindx, avoid real names on IRC ;)
[07:31] <nickgarvey> intelikey: someone smarter than me said no
[07:31] <Warbo> LadyVix: OK, ctrl-x will exit. Press y to save changes and enter to keep filename
[07:31] <_jason> intelikey: safer not to
[07:31] <noaXess> can somebody check my xorg.conf http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/670751 , i want install dapper drake 6 fl6 on my asus notebook w1v, x starts but the monitor doesn't come up
[07:31] <nickgarvey> intelikey: I don't remember who, but someone that was smart said it heh
[07:31] <intelikey> :)
[07:31] <bert__> Madpilot: So far, So good, 17% Downloaded.
[07:31] <blindx> I'm having troubles installing Bundle::Xmms ... can someone help me out? ( http://pastebin.com/670707 )
[07:31] <Madpilot> bert__, it's a massive download, but a cool game
[07:31] <King-Of-Pants> pasted
[07:32] <bert__> Madpilot: Got to love having a 200Kbps/Second Download Speed.. :)
[07:32] <FlannelKing> eneried: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarlGoetz/DebmirrorHowto describes it a little
[07:32] <FlannelKing> !mirror
[07:32] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: its binned
[07:32] <ubotu> mirror is, like, repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[07:32] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: link me
[07:32] <bert__> Madpilot: Very much indeed, I usually play it among all the other 15 Games I own, on Windows, But I love Linux more, so I wanted at least 1 awesome game to play on here.. and I knew it was possible, know of any other FPS's for Linux.. that I could get?
[07:32] <intelikey> well i think i may try it.   i have this box so tweeked out,  and i haven't reloaded in.... crap it's been over a week now..... i need to reformat, i might forget how.
[07:32] <King-Of-Pants> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12583
[07:32] <paloyme> how can i view internet explorer specific websites with firefox?
[07:32] <FlannelKing> eneried: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive there you go ;)
[07:32] <Madpilot> bert__, Americas Army
[07:32] <LadyVix> Warbo: how do I start the download now?
[07:32] <Warbo> paloyme: Complain to webmasters
[07:33] <FlannelKing> paloyme: get the user agent switcher extension
[07:33] <Madpilot> bert__, the ID FPSs run on Linux too
[07:33] <eneried> FlannelKing, thanks a lot
[07:33] <eneried> ;)
[07:33] <Warbo> LadyVix: "apt-get update" then "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[07:33] <bert__> Madpilot: I heard that wasn't that great of a game, you have any recommendations from experience?
[07:33] <Warbo> LadyVix: Then wait
[07:33] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: get it?
[07:33] <paloyme> flannelking thats the exact name? "user agent switcher"?
[07:33] <FlannelKing> paloyme: believe so
[07:33] <intelikey> Warbo both as root of course
[07:33] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: yes, let me look into it
[07:33] <eneried> i've to go now, too late for me to stay asleep :)
[07:33] <Madpilot> bert__, Americas Army? Haven't ever tried it; the screenshots look nice, but that's all I know...
[07:33] <eneried> thanks guys
[07:33] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey:  k
[07:33] <eneried> bye
[07:34] <bert__> Madpilot: Hmm, Ok, I might check it out, if I get interested and bored of WolfET, which is doubted, I own.. :)
[07:34] <Warbo> intelikey: For some reason Terminal asked for password (is this from Hoary, I never used it)
[07:34] <LadyVix> Warbo: Updating....
[07:34] <noaXess> org
[07:34] <noaXess> !xorg
[07:34] <ubotu> hmm... xorg is To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[07:34] <bert__> Madpilot: Thanks for your help I will discontnue bothering you, Until I have another problem.. ;), unexpected_expectation@hotmail.com if you would like to talk otherwise, Thanks again.
[07:34] <Warbo> LadyVix: Well, because it isn't windows you can still do what you want while it's going
[07:34] <sneex> to get onto the deve mirror all I need to change is breezy to dapper ?
[07:35] <intelikey> Warbo you lost me there ?    is what form hoary ?
[07:35] <padre_scl> how i can configuate evolution to recive hotmail
[07:35] <kaha> Warbo: careful, that little factoid freaks ppl out.
[07:35] <LadyVix> Warbo: its 41ish minutes...
[07:35] <Warbo> intelikey: Her (I'm assuming) terminal asked for password (gksudo), and became root. Is this because it is hoary?
[07:36] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: could you paste bin the following?  "more /proc/version" and "gcc --version"
[07:36] <intelikey> Warbo no.  gksudo will ask for the user passwd
[07:36] <Warbo> kaha: Well, I wouldn't recommend Quake4. (While it's downloading maybe, but not installing. Too slow)
[07:36] <LadyVix> Intelikey: I figured out what happened there for the root terminal thing... thats what i clicked... which is why it asked me for password
[07:36] <intelikey> Warbo ^ there you go.
[07:37] <LadyVix> Was accident they right next to each other on menu
[07:37] <Warbo> intelikey: But will a default Hoary install ask for password when you click on terminal? (or is there a Root Terminal option in menu?)
[07:37] <Warbo> Ah, thought so
[07:37] <kaha> Warbo: I usually do mahjongg
[07:37] <LadyVix> Warbo: *shrugs*
[07:37] <intelikey> no  not  terminal....   it will for  root terminal
[07:37] <King-Of-Pants> nickgarvey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12585
[07:37] <Warbo> kaha: Freecell (I prefer kpat)
[07:38] <noaXess> !aticonfig
[07:38] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noaXess
[07:39] <LadyVix> Warbo: how do i change GUI? this is just curiosity talking...
[07:39] <intelikey> well really it don't make any sense for me to upgrade though....   every thing works correctly here.
[07:39] <FlannelKing> LadyVix: like, installing KDE instead of gnome?
[07:39] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: that's why.. and that's not good
[07:39] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: poo
[07:39] <Warbo> LadyVix: To change theme go in Preferences. To use a completely different environment get KDE
[07:39] <LadyVix> FlannelKing: yes i saw pictures of KDE... looks more like the interface i'm used to
[07:39] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: what did I do?
[07:40] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: not you..
[07:40] <paloyme> can totem play wmv?
[07:40] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: what happened?
[07:40] <LadyVix> Warbo: that requires loging out then back in right?
[07:40] <Warbo> LadyVix: KDE can have a few cool effects, but very different to GNOME which I prefer
[07:40] <Warbo> LadyVix: Yes
[07:40] <nickgarvey> King-Of-Pants: "apt-get install linux-source$(uname -r)"
[07:40] <intelikey> LadyVix that would be   sudo apt-get install kdebase      or   kubuntu-desktop if you want all the kde apps
[07:40] <LadyVix> Warbo: would that interfere with the download?
[07:40] <Warbo> LadyVix: Although you could log in twice (keep your GNOME and open a KDE)
[07:41] <noaXess> in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-42bafbcee7a10ed50f2d9016555557b9874be252 there is the aticonfig tool.. but where to get this?
[07:41] <Warbo> LadyVix: Don't Log Out
[07:41] <paloyme> can totem play wmv files?
[07:41] <LadyVix> Warbo: i'm confused again...
[07:41] <Warbo> LadyVix: Also, you are using apt to download the updates. You should also use apt to get kde, and only 1 can be run at a time (to prevent conflicting situations)
[07:41] <Warbo> paloyme: If they are unencrypted
[07:42] <Warbo> paloyme: And WMV9 or lower
[07:42] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: do i need to download a more up to date release of ubuntu, reinstall, and try again?
[07:42] <chiwawa_42> christel, here?
[07:42] <LadyVix> nickgarvey: sorry
[07:42] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: do what I said
[07:42] <nickgarvey> King-Of-Pants: "apt-get install linux-source$(uname -r)"
[07:42] <intelikey> !tell paloyme about codecs
[07:42] <King-of-no-pants> oh, i didnt see that one
[07:43] <SD> ok can anyone please help me with connecting to a smb share from the commandline? I've followed the instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[07:43] <LadyVix> Warbo: okies
[07:43] <SD> ... and i get this error: 23662: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[07:43] <SD> SMB connection failed
[07:43] <SD> ...with $sudo mount -a
[07:43] <Warbo> LadyVix: Remember: Do everything with apt (Synaptic in Sys>Admin is a front-end to apt)
[07:43] <paloyme> !easysource
[07:43] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:43] <SD> i can connect successfully with Gnome
[07:44] <LadyVix> Warbo: how would someone install a game? the game i usually play in windows has a linux client
[07:44] <Warbo> LadyVix: You are on about NWN right?
[07:44] <mrkoje_> hello
[07:44] <FlannelKing> LadyVix: which game?
[07:44] <LadyVix> Warbo: yes Neverwinter Nights
[07:44] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: E: couldnt find package linux source 2.6.12.10 - 386
[07:45] <Warbo> LadyVix: Do you know if you need to buy the Linux one if you already have the Windows one?
[07:45] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12
[07:45] <LadyVix> Warbo: the linux one you download I can give you the URL if you want. but you need to purchase the Windows CD's for the CDkeys to install and to get the rest of the binaries
[07:46] <FlannelKing> Warbo: usually not.  or at least, from what Ive heard
[07:46] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: now were talkin!
[07:47] <intelikey> i really hope i didn't need getty for anything special....
[07:47] <intelikey> tty1 [root#~]  rm /sbin/getty
[07:47] <intelikey> tty1 [root#~]  sync
[07:48] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: alright
[07:48] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: done with that
[07:48] <Warbo> LadyVix: That's good of them. Anyway "Installing" usually just means copying stuff to the standard Linux directories (which, come to think of it, is the opposite of Windows which keeps them all together) so you should be able to get the binary and run it from where it is. To make a "command" for it you probably just have to make a link to it in /usr/bin
[07:48] <Kassah> Is there a way to get Title, Auther, Etc listed for Audio files in Nautalis?
[07:48] <LadyVix> Warbo: go here... this is my last URL....    www.nwvault.ign.com
[07:48] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: installed?
[07:49] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: yeah
[07:49] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: make && make install
[07:49] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: error 2
[07:49] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: (twitch)
[07:49] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: sure we dont want uninstall?
[07:49] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: yes.. its not even getting to the second part
[07:50] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[07:50] <Warbo> LadyVix: I've got Gish which says it should be run from inside it's own folder (ie. not split into the standard directories) and I've made a really simple script to run it (cd /directory; ./gish)
[07:50] <LadyVix> ick!
[07:50] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: wait no stop
[07:50] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: too late!
[07:50] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: apt-get install gcc-3.4
[07:50] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: heh let it go then
[07:50] <nickgarvey> not a probelm
[07:50] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: well, it didnt take
[07:50] <LadyVix> i'm having Processor spikes
[07:50] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: it said permission denied
[07:50] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: did it work?
[07:51] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: dont think so
[07:51] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: run sudo in front
[07:51] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: I thought you were logged in as root
[07:51] <LadyVix> Warbo: i hate that... i keep thinking its going to lock up again
[07:51] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: now im goin on the gcc 3.4
[07:52] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: im just sudo'ing everything
[07:52] <Warbo> LadyVix: You want to be using 100% if possible (why waste your processor?) and actually installing takes loads of resources
[07:52] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: ok, let it go
[07:52] <King-of-no-pants> ok
[07:52] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: tell me when you got it
[07:52] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: i have gcc
[07:52] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: and im root
[07:52] <LadyVix> Warbo: i have the processor monitor on top and it looks like an EEG machine
[07:52] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: do the other one again?
[07:53] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: make && make install
[07:53] <intelikey> Warbo hmmmm installing = cpu eater ?     i didn't know that.   i knew compiling was.
[07:53] <cens0red> this is weird.
[07:53] <Madpilot> LadyNikon, Gnome is pretty good at not actually locking up, even when something is working hard
[07:53] <Warbo> LadyVix: Leave it going, it's fine (but now you may get my previous comments that you don't want to berunning Quake 4 while it's installing)
[07:53] <Kassah> is there a linux app that I can change the tags on a file at the same time I can change their file name?
[07:53] <LadyVix> i only have a 1.? ghz processor...
[07:53] <Warbo> intelikey: I've found that it is. the downloading is fine
[07:53] <seraph> good afternoon all
[07:54] <LadyVix> my screen just went white you'll have to repeat that...
[07:54] <nickgarvey> ha its 2 am here
[07:54] <Warbo> (No, I never use Gentoo if that's what you're going to say)
[07:54] <nickgarvey> not afternoon for me ;)
[07:54] <seraph> I just upgraded my fresh install of breezy badger
[07:54] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: same here
[07:54] <seraph> and now it won't boot
[07:54] <seraph> no matter what kernel I use, I get an error after the pre-mount script
[07:54] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: is it working?
[07:54] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: yeah
[07:54] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: good
[07:54] <seraph> at the top-local or local-top (I forget which)
[07:54] <seraph> I get a circular dependency
[07:54] <LadyVix> arg.. i'm reloading Xchat
[07:54] <seraph> then the kernel SEGFAULTS
[07:54] <seraph> anyone know how to fix this?
[07:55] <seraph> I was thinking of removing the new kernel and installing a slightly older one
[07:55] <lgc> Hello: Can anyone help me? My keyboard doesn't work and I can't login to Breezy (I just made the upgrade)!
[07:55] <LadyVix> Pardon but thats getting a Hair annoying
[07:55] <nickgarvey> what is LadyVix?
[07:56] <cens0red> can't figure out why my linux system is still working. I have a linux system, with lots of critical stuff compiled for a celeron 1.1Ghz, on a p3 board. But I've just upgraded mainboard + CPU + RAM + Ethernet card and everything still works.
[07:56] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: done?
[07:56] <da3rX|Work> lol
[07:56] <nickgarvey> cens0red: lucky..
[07:56] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: not yet, this is a 400 mhz processor...
[07:56] <da3rX|Work> isnt it good that its working lol
[07:56] <romulo> hello, what is the default kernel shipped in dapper flight6?
[07:56] <Warbo> lgc: Can you get into a terminal (maybe rebooting into recover) and reconfiguringit there?
[07:56] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: oh haha ok, mine was done almost instantly so I wasn't sure how long yours would take
[07:56] <da3rX|Work> if its working, why bother :p
[07:56] <LadyVix> my screen goes completely white... if i pass my mouse over the screen hyperlinks appear... but then all text dissapears then i close the client and restart it
[07:56] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: you are doing it, too?
[07:56] <CNAP> romulo: Linux client 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Sat Mar 11 16:13:17 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:57] <Warbo> LadyVix: You mean XChat?
[07:57] <LadyVix> yes
[07:57] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: alright, its done
[07:57] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: nope, did it Monday though, which is why I am such an expert ;)
[07:57] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: cool
[07:57] <Warbo> LadyVix: What did I tell you about XChat...
[07:57] <romulo> CNAP, hmm 2.6.12? thats old.
[07:57] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: cd to the directory with your driver
[07:57] <intelikey> King-Of-Pants quit bragging about your cup....   mine's 100 mhz
[07:57] <CNAP> romulo, that's the build...
[07:57] <lgc> Warbo: I can login to a tty, but as soon as I get into the graphical session I lose the keyboard functionality (except for spaces and arrows).
[07:57] <LadyVix> my processor still looks like an eeg machine
[07:57] <romulo> CNAP, its latest dapper?
[07:57] <King-of-no-pants> alright
[07:57] <CNAP> flight 6
[07:57] <LadyVix> and my screen just went white again...
[07:58] <Warbo> lcg: Well to reconfigure X you type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:58] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: im there
[07:58] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: ndiswrapper -I drivername.inf #(replace driver name with your drivers name)
[07:58] <romulo> hmm it should be shipping 2.6.16...no?
[07:58] <emile> romulo: flight 6 _with_ all updates gives me 2.6.15-20
[07:58] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: lowercase "i"
[07:58] <romulo> emile, hmm -_-
[07:58] <romulo> that sux
[07:58] <Warbo> LadyVix: Leave it to install. Turn off the monitor if it's annoying (I have one on my desktop and one in my panel)
[07:58] <LadyVix> 19 minutes ish
[07:59] <romulo> that means i will have to recompile my own kernel.
[07:59] <LadyVix> repeat that?
[07:59] <Warbo> LadyVix: I mean system monitor, but either would do
[07:59] <romulo> again
[07:59] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: mrv8000 is already installed, looks like I beat you too it
[07:59] <Warbo> LadyVix: Leave it to install
[07:59] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: ndiswrapper -e mrw8000 then
[07:59] <lgc> Warbo: Do you know what to tweak in this case?
[07:59] <romulo> im wondering why 2.6.16 is on debian-amd64 and not in ubuntu, since ubuntu updates fastly
[07:59] <romulo> =P
[07:59] <LadyVix> *shakes head* ok by then... i'm headed to bed its 1am
[08:00] <Warbo> lgc: It would be the keyboard (well, duh) but I don't know what setup you have so I don't know what to give it
[08:00] <LadyVix> Warbo: thanks for the help... I'll be back later today..../ tonight
[08:00] <bert__> Madpilot: You still there?
[08:00] <Warbo> LadyVix: If I'm gone for a while I'm cycling home
[08:00] <CNAP> romulo, you're right. it's almost a year old
[08:00] <Madpilot> bert__, kind of
[08:00] <seraph> well
[08:00] <LadyVix> i didnt catch that it dissapeared before I could read it
[08:00] <seraph> so no one has any ideas?
[08:01] <Warbo> LadyVix: I should be in here later, if not then I'm cycling home (maybe 45 mins)
[08:01] <bert__> Madpilot: Ok, Great, It installed fine, THanks!!... But the problem now, is I need to do this.. for the maps... "sudo chown -R user:user ~/.etwolf/ and it says, No such file or directory...(yes I put in my User and User Group)
[08:01] <romulo> CNAP, the module for my network card is only present in 2.6.16
[08:01] <romulo> so i will have to compile it by hand like i said.
[08:01] <CNAP> romulo, no apt-get upgrade or anything like that huh?
[08:01] <LadyVix> if i cant sleep i'll probably be back 6-8am CST
[08:01] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: and "modprobe -r mrw8000" and also "rmmod ndiswrapper"
[08:01] <romulo> CNAP, well not using dapper yet.
[08:02] <Madpilot> bert__, you might have to run ET once, to get that directory created
[08:02] <romulo> CNAP, im on debian-amd64 and using 2.6.16 so its here, on 2.6.15 it wasnt working.
[08:02] <Madpilot> bert__, but it's been a while since I installed ET...
[08:02] <bert__> Madpilot: Alright, I will try that.. Thanks.
[08:02] <luisito> I have a friend that is new to linux, I'm new too but I know much more things than him and know much more how the system works. I tell him not to use Automatix because it isn't recommended, it isn't good for the system. But when he ask me why I don't know how to convince him? What should I say to him to understand?
[08:02] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: couldnt copy mrv8000.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 143
[08:02] <Warbo> romulo: Sure it would not be easier to only recompile the driver? (or am I in way over my head?)
[08:02] <Madpilot> bert__, just run it, then quit, you won't be able to do much until you complete that last set of setup
[08:02] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: you didn't do the command I said too..
[08:02] <romulo> Warbo, i dont know...seens i couldnt get it compiled with headers
[08:02] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: i thought i did
[08:02] <romulo> didnt tried with source + working kernel.
[08:02] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: rmmod ndiswrapper
[08:03] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: then modprobe -r (drivername without the .inf)
[08:03] <lgc> Madpilot, are you familiar with resuscitating dead keyboards?
[08:03] <King-of-no-pants> module ndiswrapper does not exist in /proc/modules
[08:03] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: then ndiswrapper -e (drivername witout the inf)
[08:03] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: good, next
[08:03] <Warbo> luisito: Make up something complicated, tell him it will break it and by the time he's learnt that you were making it up he knows enough about Linux to not install it :)
[08:03] <bert__> Madpilot: Ok, Now I have to figure out how the Hell to run it... :|
[08:03] <Seveas> @reload exploitban
[08:03] <CNAP> what happens when i do an apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15 ?
[08:03] <romulo> hmm thinking of importing 2.6.16 deb from debian
[08:03] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: ok, I removed the driver
[08:04] <romulo> might be agood idea
[08:04] <Madpilot> bert__, it should be at Applications->Other->ET in Gnome's terminals
[08:04] <Warbo> romulo: might not...
[08:04] <nickgarvey> CNAP: I bet it fails?
[08:04] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: ok now
[08:04] <bert__> Madpilot: I don't have an "Other" category.
[08:04] <romulo> Warbo, hmm why not
[08:04] <CNAP> nickgarvey: what fails?
[08:04] <nickgarvey> sudo ndiswrapper -i (driver.inf)
[08:04] <Warbo> romulo: Dunno, just might not
[08:04] <luisito> Warbo, the thing is, he have it installed.
[08:04] <nickgarvey> CNAP: you trying to apt-get, its not in the repos
[08:04] <Madpilot> bert__, then in the termial, just type 'et' w/o the quotes
[08:04] <romulo> Warbo, i have imported ubuntu kernels on debian before
[08:04] <romulo> and it worked like a charm
[08:04] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: couldnt copy mrv8000.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 143
[08:04] <bert__> Madpilot: Did that.. doesn't do anything but say no such directory or something
[08:05] <CNAP> nickgarvey: what's not in repos? linux-source-2.6.15 ?
[08:05] <bert__> Madpilot: Command not found, rather.
[08:05] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: should I be root@ubuntu?
[08:05] <Warbo> luisito: I think the damage has been done. Doesn't it change stuff irreversibly (for apt I mean, not manually)
[08:05] <OrTigaS> hi
[08:05] <Madpilot> bert__, try 'enemy-territory' to start it
[08:05] <nickgarvey> CNAP: yeah, I am pretty sure it sn't
[08:05] <OrTigaS> hows the channel
[08:05] <OrTigaS> can i ask
[08:05] <bert__> Madpilot: Command not found.
[08:05] <Madpilot> bert__, hmm, that should work - it's what works for me
[08:06] <CNAP> nickgarvey, no it's there. i just downloaded it. i wanted to know what's going to happen once i do it. will it upgrade my kernel?
[08:06] <bert__> Madpilot: Hmm..
[08:06] <intelikey> OrTigaS   fast and active.
[08:06] <Madpilot> King-of-no-pants, use sudo before commands, no need for root
[08:06] <OrTigaS> how can i disable the "PadLock" on start and after the Login?
[08:06] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: i was doing that for a while, then just su'd myself...
[08:06] <bert__> Madpilot: Woops...I suppose it might help to actually install the game instead of just download it and leave it?
[08:06] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: does it matter?
[08:06] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: ok do it then
[08:06] <nalioth> lgc: did the 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" not work?
[08:07] <romulo> can i use a amd64 kernel to run with 32bits binaries?
[08:07] <Madpilot> bert__, um... yeah... :P
[08:07] <nickgarvey> CNAP: oh it is? I don't see it.. oh well, and no I doubt it, thats only the sources
[08:07] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: couldnt copy mrv8000.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 143
[08:07] <Warbo> romulo: OK, so Debian wasn't dodgy enough?
[08:07] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: as long as it doesn't say that
[08:07] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: go into a root shell instead
[08:07] <Madpilot> bert__, "sudo chmod +x et-linux-2.60.x86.run" first
[08:07] <CNAP> nickgarvey, yeah you're right it does nothing but download the source
[08:07] <CNAP> nickgarvey, waste of 44mb
[08:07] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: what do you mean by that?
[08:07] <luisito> Warbo, I have seen really weird thing like, when choosing the keyboard language the USA works like Latinamerican and vice-versa.
[08:07] <bert__> Madpilot: Woops.. Kinda late :/
[08:08] <romulo> Warbo, yeah, that time i was missing stuff that was on ubuntu
[08:08] <romulo> like now
[08:08] <nickgarvey> intelikey: mm but I had that happen too, sudo didn't do I needed a root shell it seemed
[08:08] <Madpilot> intelikey, "no need to go to root@boxname" is what I meant... :P
[08:08] <OrTigaS> how can i disable the "PadLock" on Start-Up and after the Login?
[08:08] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: su
[08:08] <nalioth> nickgarvey: why?
[08:08] <Warbo> luisito: What I was saying was that if you want to put it back to normal you have to change it back yourself, getting rid of Automatix won't do it
[08:08] <nickgarvey> nalioth: good question
[08:08] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: ok
[08:08] <nalioth> King-of-no-pants: dont do it
[08:08] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: too late
[08:08] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: i did that a while ago
[08:08] <Warbo> luisito: Anyway, if you use a USA keyboard the " and @ are in the wrong place :)
[08:09] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: i dont usually do it
[08:09] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: i usually sudo
[08:09] <Madpilot> bert__, well, if it's installing, then you didn't need the command I gave you, anyway
[08:09] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: but right now im su'd
[08:09] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: oh, thats the problem then, get out of that and use sudo
[08:09] <bert__> Madpilot: It's not, Same error I got last time.. Hmm
[08:09] <lgc> nalioth: sorry for the delay. I didn't know that. Let me see...
[08:09] <nickgarvey> I remembered one worked and one didn't
[08:09] <CNAP> romulo, how are you recompiling it? i've never actually have successfully recompiled a kernel
[08:09] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: do i have to close and reopen terminal?
[08:09] <bert__> Madpilot: Nevermind, There it goes.
[08:09] <intelikey> Warbo qwerty  ?
[08:09] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: no just type exit
[08:09] <nalioth> King-of-no-pants: su YOUR_USER_NAME
[08:10] <romulo> CNAP, ive recompiled it many times, doing make-kpkg --revision=something.0.1 kernel-image or linux-image
[08:10] <nickgarvey> that works too
[08:10] <OrTigaS> where can change/put IP address if i connect to other machine with own IP add?
[08:10] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: couldnt copy mrv8000.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 143
[08:11] <nalioth> King-of-no-pants: is the file complete and not damaged?
[08:11] <Warbo> intelikey: Sorry, just that so many LiveCDs use US keyboard I have got to know it's layout (on my UK keyboard). The most annoying is terminals, but next annoying is email"domain.com (@ and " are swapped)
[08:11] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: that was with sudo and not su?
[08:11] <romulo> OrTigaS, ip for your local interfaces?
[08:11] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: sudo
[08:11] <nalioth> King-of-no-pants: sudo won't work if the file integrity is broken
[08:11] <romulo> OrTigaS, sudo ifconfig ethX ip
[08:11] <OrTigaS> romulo yes
[08:11] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: damn, I had the same problem and I thought thats how I fixed it but I don't remember...
[08:11] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: it should be a good file, i downloaded it today
[08:11] <luisito> Warbo, yeah, but his keyboard is spanish, when he uses the latinamerican layout it uses the USA layout and when he uses the USA layout then the Latinamerican is the layout, it is a really weird thing.
[08:12] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: do you have your driver off your windows installation maybe?
[08:12] <OrTigaS> like if i have machine that has IP and i want it to connect thru internet or by direct connect by LAN cable
[08:12] <Warbo> luisito: Is this graphically (KDE or GNOME) or Xorg itself, or even terminals?
[08:12] <bert__> Madpilot: Next Error:... You are using software Mesa (no hardware acceleration)!
[08:12] <bert__>  Driver DLL used: libGL.so.1
[08:12] <bert__>  If this is intentional, add
[08:12] <bert__>        "+set r_allowSoftwareGL 1"
[08:12] <bert__>  to the command line when starting the game.
[08:12] <nickgarvey> !tell bert__ about paste
[08:12] <bert__> Sorry for the flood!
[08:12] <nickgarvey> :)
[08:12] <Warbo> bert: sounds like you need binary driver
[08:12] <bert__> Unintentional.
[08:12] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: no...
[08:12] <nalioth> bert__: please use a pastebin in the future
[08:12] <bert__> I will, My appologies.
[08:12] <Madpilot> bert__, no 3d drivers, it sounds like - ATI or Nvidia graphics card?
[08:12] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: i dont use that card in any of my windows machines,
[08:12] <romulo> OrTigaS, can u be more direct?
[08:12] <bert__> Madpilot: AT
[08:12] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: crap.. what is the name of your wireless card?
[08:12] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: i know thats the right driver
[08:13] <bert__> Madpilot ATI*
[08:13] <intelikey>  /etc/hosts   OrTigaS  ?    or /etc/network/interfaces  ?
[08:13] <Madpilot> !tell bert__ about ati
[08:13] <bert__> Madpilot: 9800 Pro to be Exact.
[08:13] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: re download it then
[08:13] <King-of-no-pants> will do
[08:13] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: or tell me where you got it so I can try
[08:13] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: or both heh
[08:13] <CNAP> romulo: there's a .deb file for the kernel?
[08:13] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: www.airnetusa.com
[08:13] <romulo> CNAP, for the one im using on amd64 now, there is
[08:14] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: AWD154
[08:14] <romulo> so i copied it and tomorrow when installing dapper, will use it
[08:14] <romulo> :D
[08:14] <OrTigaS> romulo, like this we have a machine/box here that we access by Internet or by Direct Cable thru rj45 but that box has a IP add.. where can i change my IP to access that box?
[08:14] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: PCMCIA?
[08:14] <Madpilot> bert__, got the pm from the bot?
[08:14] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: pci
[08:14] <CNAP> romula, where'd you find it? www.debian.org i assume?
[08:14] <bert__> Madpilot: Yes, following instructions now.
[08:15] <romulo> OrTigaS, why you wanna change the ip to access the box? subnet?
[08:15] <OrTigaS> in windows we do like "Networking--> Properties-->
[08:15] <intelikey> romulo is that kernel compiled against the same glibc  as dapper ?
[08:15] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: bah worked fine for me
[08:15] <romulo> OrTigaS, to change your ip type sudo ifconfig ethX xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx where ethX is your interface
[08:15] <nickgarvey> Installing net5211
[08:15] <romulo> intelikey, probably, no.
[08:15] <romulo> oh wait
[08:15] <romulo> glibc, yes...probably
[08:15] <romulo> =P
[08:15] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: net5211         driver installed
[08:15] <romulo> dapper is on 4?
[08:16] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: ?
[08:16] <OrTigaS> can do it by not in Terminal, because probaly i'm not the one gonna use it, i just want to know so i can tell
[08:16] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: worked fine for me
[08:16] <caonex> I have installed successfully ubuntu before on my hp pavilion zv6000. However, I have performed about 4 clean installs and I am unable to get X going, any ideas?
[08:16] <nickgarvey> caonex: SAME AS ME!
[08:16] <LTR2000> how do i give myself permissions to my homefolder
[08:16] <nickgarvey> caonex: oh pick me pick me
[08:16] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: give me a minute
[08:16] <romulo> caonex, what sthe problem
[08:16] <luisito> Warbo, well, I tried graphically only, but considering that he doesn't mess around with the system, like installing weird programs and exploring the system trying to change things, then I thing the fault is because automatix.
[08:16] <romulo> OrTigaS, yes you can
[08:16] <OrTigaS> romulo where?
[08:16] <romulo> OrTigaS, Click gnome foot menu, administration->network
[08:16] <nickgarvey> caonex: edit xorg.conf, and under Devices, put Option    NoAccel
[08:17] <intelikey> LTR2000 sudo chown name:name /home/name     where name is you.
[08:17] <nickgarvey> caonex: but run dapper, it works much better
[08:17] <nickgarvey> caonex: does your wireless card work?
[08:17] <intelikey> LTR2000 sudo chown -R name:name /home/name     where name is you.
[08:17] <caonex> nickgarvey: I already did
[08:17] <caonex> nickgarvey yes I have
[08:17] <intelikey> own your home...
[08:17] <intelikey> own your own home.
[08:17] <nickgarvey> caonex: your wireless works?
[08:17] <caonex> romulo X is the problem
[08:17] <Sp4rKy> hi
[08:17] <caonex> nickgarvey: yes it does
[08:17] <nickgarvey> caonex: ?! I couldn't get it working
[08:17] <romulo> caonex, and what output it gives to you?
[08:17] <romulo> what videocard
[08:17] <caonex> ndiswrapper does the trick, nickgarvey
[08:17] <bert__> My wireless works :D
[08:17] <bert__> Wireless internet :P
[08:18] <romulo> i hate ndis
[08:18] <romulo> it doesnt work here
[08:18] <romulo> =P
[08:18] <caonex> romulo: ati 200 Xpress
[08:18] <nickgarvey> caonex: yeah.. I tried, never got it working under dapper, I am running suse 10.0 right now
[08:18] <romulo> neither bcm
[08:18] <romulo> caonex, so whats the output?
[08:18] <romulo> caonex, installed ati proprietary drivers?
[08:18] <nickgarvey> caonex: you are running dapper?
[08:18] <romulo> my card is the one broken on bcm43xx =(
[08:18] <caonex> nickgarvey, romulo: yeah, using normal installation for suse does the trick....but I want ubuntu....suse is way too slow
[08:18] <LTR2000> what program can i use to extract a rar file
[08:18] <prgrmr> i can't change /etc/resolv.conf
[08:18] <nickgarvey> caonex: that was a yeah to dapper?
[08:18] <Warbo> luisito: Basically you set your locale (not entirely sure how to do this actually) for the whole system, including ctrl-alt-f1 terminals (if you don't know what that is then REMEMBER: ctrl-alt-f7) Then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will let you reconfigure Xorg language and finally KControl will let you reconfigure KDE, and System > Preferences > keyboard will do GNOME. Hope it helps
[08:19] <nickgarvey> !tell LTR2000 about rar
[08:19] <intelikey> LTR2000 unrar ?
[08:19] <caonex> romulo: I have.....done both in the past....like I said I have gotten it to work before
[08:19] <cquillen> what encryption program does ubuntu use to encrypt the password?
[08:19] <romulo> caonex, well in my debian system i used to load X with radeon driver or vesa and just install from the current X.org
[08:19] <caonex> romulo: yeah.....I tried putting the vesa and radeon as driver but did not work
[08:19] <caonex> for radeon I need xserver-xorg-radeon
[08:19] <caonex> or something like that
[08:19] <nickgarvey> caonex: dapper works beautifully...
[08:19] <caonex> romulo
[08:19] <romulo> luisito, to reconfigure your locale run sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales and sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf
[08:19] <Sp4rKy> hi all
[08:19] <prgrmr> i can't edit /etc/resolv.conf, what can i do?
[08:19] <caonex> nickgarvey: what is dapper?
[08:20] <romulo> prgrmr, use sudo
[08:20] <nickgarvey> !tell caonex about dapper
[08:20] <Warbo> caonex: What is this radeon driver? Is it a free or proprietory one?
[08:20] <romulo> Warbo, free.
[08:20] <caonex> Warbo: propietary one
[08:20] <Sp4rKy> i've some issue with swsusp2 on 2.6.16.5 kernel , if someone could help me ...
[08:20] <romulo> Warbo, the proprietary one is fglrx
[08:20] <cafuego> `radeon' is free, `fglrx' is proprietary.
[08:20] <caonex> Warbo: it has worked in the past not completly well, but has
[08:20] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: now its giving me errors while extracting
[08:20] <romulo> caonex, mine is workig very well(RAdeon x600)
[08:20] <Warbo> romulo: I know, but I thought the free was ati (I'm using on my dad's new graphics card)
[08:20] <nickgarvey> caonex: its the next ubuntu version, try the 64 bit live cd, the wireless won't work but everything else works fine, no stupid boot codes while installing or anything
[08:20] <caonex> Warbo: I get no 3d accel because it odes not use the appropriate libraries OpenGL
[08:21] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: unzip (file.zip)
[08:21] <caonex> romulo: yeah....the problem is with 200M
[08:21] <romulo> caonex, do ./ati-something --buildpkg Ubuntu/Version
[08:21] <CNAP> what's the switch to make dpkg verbose?
[08:21] <caonex> romulo: I have to make it use ram memory
[08:21] <can0n> Anyone know where I can get sound blaster live drivers for linux?
[08:21] <caonex> romulo: I did that
[08:21] <romulo> caonex, it will generate *.debs for your system.
[08:21] <cquillen> does any one know the program used by ubuntu to encrypt the login password?
[08:21] <romulo> caonex, and?
[08:21] <romulo> caonex, modprobe fglrx
[08:21] <caonex> romulo: I have been using ubuntu for a long time and debian as well.....I have done that and it wors
[08:21] <Warbo> caonex: So there is vesa<ati<fglrx. Where does radeon fit in?
[08:21] <romulo> *sudo modprobe fglrx
[08:22] <caonex> but.....romulo, not the way is supposed to
[08:22] <caonex> right now is not doing anything
[08:22] <romulo> caonex, yeah.
[08:22] <romulo> caonex, unfortunatly im still running debian
[08:22] <romulo> (till tomorrow)
[08:22] <romulo> so i cant say the proper way to do it.
[08:22] <romulo> =p
[08:22] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: now it wont download
[08:22] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: ?
[08:22] <romulo> caonex, and if the "proper" way dont work with me, ill go the default one
[08:22] <stjepan> how to disable usplash?
[08:22] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: I dont know
[08:22] <romulo> cause the default one are always more updated than the "proper"
[08:22] <caonex> romulo: what is the gnome version of debian?
[08:22] <romulo> packagin takes time
[08:22] <caonex> you using stable, romulo?
[08:23] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: it just wont download, i click save to disk, and then it doesnt do shit
[08:23] <romulo> caonex, im using 2.14, developer here.
[08:23] <romulo> unstable.
[08:23] <Warbo> stjepan: Remove the bit "splash" in your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:23] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: language please
[08:23] <romulo> im one of the new gnome-panel maintainers
[08:23] <caonex> romulo: cool....that is weird to see a debian developer in here
[08:23] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: sorry
[08:23] <prgrmr> romulo, i used sudo, i think the file is in +i
[08:23] <bert__> Madpilot: Rebooting, Be Back in a Few if need be, Thanks again for your help.
[08:23] <romulo> so im using gnome CVS HEAD
[08:23] <stjepan> Warbo: I want to use splashy instead of usplash
[08:23] <romulo> prgrmr, chmod it?
[08:23] <Sp4rKy> i've some issue with swsusp2 on 2.6.16.5 kernel , if someone could help me ...
[08:23] <Warbo> stjepan: That is, on the "kenel" line, not GRUB's splash
[08:23] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: right click the link, copy link location to clip board
[08:23] <nickgarvey> open terminal
[08:23] <stjepan> :(
[08:23] <romulo> caonex, its weird, cause im moving to ubuntu
[08:23] <Sp4rKy> swsusp2 works with text mode but not correctly  with fb mode
[08:23] <Warbo> stjepan: I think that is pretty complex (but not as complex as boot-splash)
[08:23] <romulo> tired of chroot's
[08:23] <nickgarvey> wget "(right click paste)"
[08:23] <romulo> :D
[08:23] <caonex> romulo, nickgarvey: let me try configuring X again, otherwise trying debian or dapper
[08:24] <Sp4rKy> does anyone could help me please
[08:24] <nickgarvey> :)
[08:24] <romulo> Sp4rKy, what u need
[08:24] <lgc> nalioth: /msg you're welcome, SS...
[08:24] <OrTigaS> romulo thanks! it works!
[08:24] <romulo> oh, and caonex , remember to disable radeon fb
[08:24] <romulo> OrTigaS, you welcome
[08:24] <OrTigaS> how can i disable the "PadLock" on Start-Up and after the Login?
[08:24] <OrTigaS> i always got wrong passwd because of that
[08:25] <Sp4rKy> romulo, i need help to make work swsusp2 with fb
[08:25] <Warbo> OrTigaS: I don't get you...
[08:25] <prgrmr> romulo, chmod -i etc/resolv.conf ?
[08:25] <intelikey> numlock ?
[08:25] <Sp4rKy> romulo, i've a 2.6.16.5 kernel correctly patched
[08:25] <romulo> Sp4rKy, dont even know whats that, sorry
[08:25] <Sp4rKy> ok
[08:25] <Sp4rKy> crimsun, could you help me now :D
[08:25] <caonex> romulo, you got framebuffer going?
[08:25] <intelikey> Warbo OrTigaS numlock ?
[08:25] <romulo> prgrmr, sudo chmod 644 /etc/resolv.conf
[08:25] <Warbo> intelikey: Maybe. Not on by default is it?
[08:25] <OrTigaS> PADLock
[08:25] <romulo> caonex, i dont use fb
[08:26] <caonex> nickgarvey....do you need the bios to use regular ram memory
[08:26] <OrTigaS> in my Laptop
[08:26] <caonex> romulo: can you do vga=0x317 without fb?
[08:26] <cello_rasp> help, i can't ` rm *.* `..., i tells me 'invalid option.
[08:26] <nickgarvey> caonex: what do you mean?
[08:26] <Warbo> OrTigaS: Do you mean typing in password for system things (gksudo)
[08:26] <romulo> caonex, no.
[08:26] <romulo> afaik
[08:26] <caonex> romulo: vga activates fb, right?
[08:26] <romulo> yes
[08:26] <nickgarvey> caonex: I didn't need to mess with anything for dapper to work
[08:26] <romulo> afaik too
[08:26] <romulo> =P
[08:26] <intelikey> Warbo i've never really ran a default ubuntu i don't guess....  idk
[08:26] <caonex> nickgarvey: are your running accelerated drivers?
[08:26] <romulo> the only thing i will want to get rid of my ubuntu is sudo
[08:26] <romulo> =P
[08:27] <nickgarvey> caonex: naw I gave up on my graphics card
[08:27] <cens0red> is there a way I can check my cpu temperature in linux?
[08:27] <romulo> caonex, ati's readme say to you not use the proprietary driver with framebuffers
[08:27] <nickgarvey> caonex: solitare for me
[08:27] <Madpilot> cens0red, yes
[08:27] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: now nothing will start
[08:27] <cens0red> assuming my board supports it?
[08:27] <caonex> romulo: me too, I got rid of it by doing.....sudo su........passwd
[08:27] <romulo> cens0red, if you have sensors, yeah
[08:27] <caonex> and got root to work, romulo
[08:27] <Madpilot> !tell cens0red about sensors
[08:27] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: open office said there was an internal error, i cant get firefox back up
[08:27] <caonex> romulo: I cannot stand using sudo
[08:27] <romulo> cens0red, try looking for sensors packages
[08:27] <caonex> romulo: I need my root user
[08:27] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: dude what the heck did you do?
[08:27] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: im not sure
[08:27] <romulo> caonex, same
[08:27] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: reboot!
[08:28] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: i think i will
[08:28] <romulo> cens0red, apt-cache search sensor
[08:28] <nickgarvey> the old windows stand by, when in doubt, reboot
[08:28] <romulo> cens0red, look for some sensor package and if your kernel and mb supports it
[08:28] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: that doesn't even rhyme
[08:28] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: not supposed too
[08:28] <intelikey> romulo i'm with ya,  give me a full root shell and let every thing else go to ...... well never mind.
[08:28] <lgc> nalioth: to be or not to be: (in the middle of the reconfig process) "deadkeys" or "nodeadkeys" for a Latin American (Mexico) keyboard?
[08:29] <Warbo> nickgarvey: You'd love "The IT Crowd". Tech support guys who run a tape recorder that says "Have you tried turning it off and on.... Are you SURE it's plugged in?..." :)
[08:29] <cens0red> romulo apt-get install lm-sensors ?
[08:29] <romulo> intelikey, not with my router, firewall and iptables buddy ;)
[08:29] <romulo> cens0red, i believe yes
[08:29] <nalioth> lgc: none
[08:29] <nickgarvey> haha
[08:29] <OrTigaS> Warbo, the KeyPAD lock always on
[08:29] <caonex> nickgarvey: do you see the graphical boot now?
[08:29] <caonex> you have my laptop you said, nickgarvey?
[08:29] <romulo> intelikey, and even my 16 mixed character+numbers password :D
[08:29] <nickgarvey> caonex: I do
[08:29] <prgrmr> romulo, how can i change it into +i again?
[08:29] <Warbo> OrTigaS: Sounds Laptop specific, I don't have a (working) laptop
[08:29] <cquillen> does any one know the program used by ubuntu to encrypt the login password which is found in shadow
[08:30] <OrTigaS> after i install the automatix and run.. the KEYPADLock always on
[08:30] <caonex> nickgarvey: so you see the graphical boot ?
[08:30] <nickgarvey> OrTigaS: WHY! WHY DID YOU DO IT!
[08:30] <intelikey> romulo i'll go you one better,  there is no password on this system.   all accounts are locked.
[08:30] <OrTigaS> Warbo yes it laptop
[08:30] <lgc> nalioth: does it mean I will generate a space with every accent I type?
[08:30] <romulo> prgrmr, dunno, maybe chmod +i
[08:30] <nickgarvey> caonex: yup
[08:30] <OrTigaS> nickgarvey i dont know
[08:30] <romulo> intelikey, hehehe
[08:30] <caonex> nickgarvey: can you run glxgears, and tell me how fast it goes?
[08:30] <Madpilot> OrTigaS, yes, that's because automatix enabled the numlockx program
[08:30] <nalioth> lgc: no seh keyboards mexicano
[08:30] <caonex> nickgarvey: any problems so far?
[08:30] <nickgarvey> caonex: eek I'm runnig suse remember
[08:30] <OrTigaS> Madpilot how can i disable it?
[08:30] <Madpilot> OrTigaS, not sure
[08:30] <nickgarvey> caonex: I'd put in a live cd but that wolud mean no internet
[08:31] <romulo> caonex, sorry by interrupt, glxgears here gives me 3000fps
[08:31] <caonex> nickgarvey: with its condition....testing?
[08:31] <romulo> caonex, and fgl_glxgears gives me 800
[08:31] <Madpilot> OrTigaS, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NumLock
[08:31] <lgc> nalioth: not that I want to make fun of your Spanish, but what do you mean?
[08:31] <caonex> romulo: what?
[08:31] <caonex> romulo: but then again you have a different card
[08:31] <intelikey> cquillen shadow  does that, afik
[08:31] <caonex> romulo: it works better for you
[08:31] <OrTigaS> i always to turn-off after booting and loging-in :(
[08:31] <romulo> caonex, yeah.
[08:31] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: whoops! I left the install cd in the drive, that freaked me out
[08:31] <caonex> romulo: you never had to enable the uma memory in the bios I bet
[08:31] <nalioth> lgc: disculpa, mi espaol es tex-mex
[08:31] <romulo> caonex, dont even know whats that
[08:31] <nickgarvey> OrTigaS: why did you run it.. why would you do that to your computer...
[08:31] <prgrmr> romulo, i get an error, chmod: invalid mode string: '+i'
[08:32] <romulo> prgrmr, so its not it
[08:32] <romulo> =P
[08:32] <romulo> let me search
[08:32] <bert_> Madpilot: did you get my PM?
[08:32] <romulo> googling
[08:32] <caonex> romulo: this ati cards come with the ability to use aditionally to its dedicated memory, ram memory
[08:32] <Madpilot> bert_, no
[08:32] <romulo> caonex, didnt know that...anyway that bios option is not avaible for me =P
[08:32] <caonex> in order to get the propietary drivers to work, you need to activate that in the bios....which sucks because I only have 512
[08:32] <bert_> Madpilot: Ok, Well, I tried all that, I rebooted, an' everything, and I got this error  You are using software Mesa (no hardware acceleration)!
[08:32] <bert_> , and I tried running it without it..
[08:32] <Warbo> caonex: ONLY?
[08:33] <cquillen> intelikey do you know how shadow encrypts it, which program is used?
[08:33] <caonex> romulo: see.....trust me this is aggrevating, but nickgarvey says it is working fine....
[08:33] <nickgarvey> caonex: oh cool, didn't know you could do that, I'll have to play around
[08:33] <caonex> Warbo: ?>
[08:33] <bert_> Madpilot: But it lagged so extremely bad, that It would be impossible to play, without it.
[08:33] <nickgarvey> caonex: use a dapper live boot cd
[08:33] <caonex> nickgarvey: so what was the result of glxgears?
[08:33] <Madpilot> bert_, those ati drivers should work for a 9800, not sure what to suggest
[08:33] <romulo> caonex, well i didnt set up this here, its a gateway laptop
[08:33] <nickgarvey> caonex: running suse!
[08:33] <romulo> caonex, 256mb of dedicated memory for card
[08:33] <romulo> 1gb system
[08:33] <bert_> Madpilot: Hmm...I don't even know where to begin to get it to work...
[08:33] <lgc> nalioth: no prob. You're helping a lot here!
[08:34] <romulo> argh i should be sleeping
[08:34] <ahmeni> Is there a way to install Ubuntu via an existing linux installation?
[08:34] <nickgarvey> caonex: but works fine on suse
[08:34] <caonex> nickgarvey: what version of firefox?
[08:34] <nickgarvey> caonex: 1.5
[08:34] <OrTigaS> nickgarvey i thought it will update for better
[08:34] <romulo> but i have no dreams when chatting neither trying to freakly install ubuntu from a usb pendrive
[08:34] <Warbo> ahmeni: debootstrap
[08:34] <Madpilot> bert_, the ATI drivers should just work, not sure why you're having problems - go over the instructions again, maybe?
[08:34] <Warbo> ahmeni: maybe
[08:34] <nickgarvey> caonex: on dapper you mean?
[08:34] <caonex> nickgarvey: I thought you said you had dapper
[08:34] <caonex> nickgarvey: yeah....on suse did not work as good
[08:34] <nickgarvey> caonex: I did, but I couldn't get wireless so I tried suse
[08:35] <bert_> Madpilot: I didn't miss a one, on the instructions on the first link you sent me, and I did all the commands needed to be done, and it said reboot so I rebooted, and still., nothing, I'll check again and see if I missed anything.
[08:35] <caonex> nickgarvey: suse does not have apt...and yast is sort of slow.....what do you get with glxgears in suse?
[08:35] <intelikey> cquillen crypt ?    i really don't.    but i think the shadow utils do all of it.
[08:35] <caonex> romulo: why don't use fb?
[08:35] <nickgarvey> caonex: a blue, red, and green gear, spinning
[08:35] <romulo> caonex, it says that it conflicts with ati proprietary drivers
[08:35] <caonex> nickgarvey: yeah....what is the the terminal saying?
[08:35] <Madpilot> bert_, good luck - I'm signing off in a minute or so - just ask again here for more help
[08:35] <caonex> romulo: that is true but suse installs it....very nice
[08:36] <nickgarvey> 3000 frames in 5.0 seconds = 600.000 FPS
[08:36] <romulo> caonex, the fb?
[08:36] <bert_> Madpilot: ok, Thanks for the help, Take care.
[08:36] <caonex> romulo that is slow right ?
[08:36] <romulo> caonex, yes.
[08:36] <nickgarvey> :(
[08:36] <romulo> caonex, very slow
[08:36] <caonex> romulo: see....
[08:36] <nickgarvey> I thought it was fine
[08:36] <macfast> Let me know how can i install bioperl on a ubundu system
[08:36] <romulo> caonex, my geforce 4 mx 400 used to show me 1000fps
[08:36] <romulo> and it was 64mb
[08:36] <caonex> romulo: nickgarvey this card has more potential.....
[08:36] <nickgarvey> caonex: yeah true..
[08:37] <caonex> nickgarvey: that is why I need to put ubuntu or debian back on
[08:37] <romulo> nickgarvey, please glxinfo
[08:37] <romulo> and check Direct Rendering
[08:37] <caonex> nickgarvey: look for Drivers
[08:37] <caonex> OPENGL
[08:37] <caonex> nickgarvey: it says libmesa
[08:37] <romulo> libmesa?
[08:37] <caonex> it should say fglrx, nickgarvey
[08:37] <romulo> then its not ati ;)
[08:37] <OrTigaS> so where can i edit to disable that PadLock(i think same as Numlock)
[08:37] <nickgarvey> caonex: not there, nothing on drivers
[08:37] <caonex> romulo: yeah.....it uses the wrong one....that is what I dislike about this card with propietary drivers
[08:38] <nickgarvey> says OPENGL though
[08:38] <nickgarvey> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[08:38] <caonex> romulo: see that......
[08:38] <nickgarvey> and then OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[08:38] <caonex> romulo: it is using libmesa
[08:38] <caonex> and I created a diversion using apt and still did not work
[08:38] <mike> who wants to remote into my computer and get my fglrx driver installed?
[08:38] <romulo> prgrmr, sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
[08:39] <caonex> romulo: I even used lddconfig to change libmesa to fglrx
[08:39] <romulo> nickgarvey, your driver isnt working
[08:39] <nickgarvey> romulo: :(
[08:39] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: couldnt copy mrv8000.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 143
[08:39] <romulo> nickgarvey, you should install ati proprietary drivers
[08:39] <OrTigaS> where can i edit the sudoer?
[08:39] <mike> haha
[08:39] <nickgarvey> romulo: yeah.. I should
[08:39] <mike> it's impossible!
[08:39] <nalioth> OrTigaS: in a terminal, "man visudo"
[08:39] <mike> i have tried days on end to get it to work
[08:39] <OrTigaS> it wont accept psswd
[08:39] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: um.. not sure,, try the forums...
[08:39] <caonex> nickgarvey: the propietary ones do the same
[08:39] <prgrmr> romulo, 10X :)
[08:39] <romulo> well, heres how i do it: first i run it on X, then it install the kernel modules, then i run it ./ati-something --buildpkg Debian/experimental(what i have here) and install the *.debs
[08:40] <nalioth> OrTigaS: be very careful or you will mess up your system
[08:40] <firebird619> I am trying to install WW2D on Ubuntu 5.10. It will not install successfully and I have pasted the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12588          There are two files I have to use, the WW2D.jar file and JOGL-Inst.jar. Could someone take a look at the output and help me? Thanks.
[08:40] <caonex> romulo: they propietary do the same
[08:40] <romulo> prgrmr, yw
[08:40] <OrTigaS> oh yea
[08:40] <King-of-no-pants> nickgarvey: alright, thanks for the help, ill try this tomorrow. i need sleep
[08:40] <OrTigaS> forgot that
[08:40] <nickgarvey> King-of-no-pants: same ;)
[08:40] <caonex> nickgarvey: why not running dapper right now?
[08:40] <romulo> i have school in 2 hours
[08:40] <romulo> =P
[08:40] <nickgarvey> caonex: couldn't get wireless worknig
[08:40] <romulo> and i havent sleep anything yet
[08:40] <romulo> =P
[08:40] <caonex> nickgarvey: even with ndiswrapper?
[08:40] <nickgarvey> caonex: I might try again
[08:40] <mike> you have to uninstall bcmw4xx
[08:40] <nickgarvey> caonex: yeah.. thats what I used
[08:40] <mike> orsomething
[08:40] <King-of-no-pants> later all
[08:40] <nickgarvey> later
[08:40] <mike> and then blacklist it
[08:41] <caonex> nickgarvey: what driver?
[08:41] <nickgarvey> mike: yeah I did that...
[08:41] <lgc> nalioth: maybe I'm messing up since I'm working with irssi-text and it's giving me a hard time with flipping between channels...
[08:41] <nickgarvey> caonex: um bcmwl5.inf
[08:41] <caonex> nick I used something else I think
[08:41] <CNAP> romulo, just tried installing that linux-image 2.16 and ran into some problems. aparently dependencies didn't match. any idea what else i need to download along with the linux-image ?
[08:41] <nickgarvey> caonex: its working fine on suse
[08:41] <mike> then make sure you have wlan0 picked as your default gateway
[08:41] <blindx> So Descartes enters a bar and has a glass. When he finishes, the bartender says "hey, want another?" Descartes replies "I think not" and instantly vanishes in a poof of logic.
[08:41] <caonex> nickgarvey: using the same procedures?
[08:41] <nickgarvey> mike: ah but thats the problem!
[08:41] <blindx> gah wrong channel.
[08:41] <lgc> nalioth: what I mean is I hardly know how to operate it...
[08:41] <romulo> for (i=0;i<sizeof(long)*sizeof(long);i++) std::cout << "I hate ndiswrapper" << std::endl;
[08:41] <nickgarvey> it was detecitng it as eth0!
[08:41] <mike> yeah
[08:41] <romulo> CNAP, will check
[08:41] <nickgarvey> haha nice romulo
[08:42] <mike> make sure that you select wlan
[08:42] <ahmeni> Warbo: Ahh, debootstrap is in the gentoo repository too.  Thanks :)
[08:42] <nickgarvey> mike: I didn't pick it
[08:42] <romulo> or just while(1) std::cout << ...
[08:42] <caonex> nickgarvey: netbc64.inf
[08:42] <nickgarvey> when it detected the interface, thtas what it picked
[08:42] <nickgarvey> caonex: ? where did you get that?
[08:42] <caonex> romulo: I don't like it, but what other choice?
[08:42] <romulo> Depends: module-init-tools (>= 0.9.13), e2fsprogs (>= 1.35-7), initramfs-tools (>= 0.53) | yaird (>= 0.0.12-8) | linux-initramfs-tool
[08:42] <ahmeni> One must not hate ndiswrapper, but hate the network cards that use them!
[08:42] <Warbo> ahmeni: You can use it to give you basic Debian, then change that into Ubuntu
[08:42] <caonex> nickgarvey: some tutorials online
[08:42] <nickgarvey> ahmeni: :)
[08:42] <romulo> caonex, i dont have any choice, neither ndis, neither bcm works =(
[08:42] <intelikey> hmmmm i wonder if this is actually going to break something....    apt-get --purge remove passwd
[08:42] <mike> any luck?
[08:43] <nickgarvey> caonex: I read several, which is how I got the driver I have now
[08:43] <caonex> ok....I will try with drapper
[08:43] <romulo> ahmeni, you right, i hate my wireless card!!!
[08:43] <caonex> romulo: try debian or drapper?
[08:43] <nickgarvey> dapper*
[08:43] <mike> dapper rocks my balls off
[08:43] <romulo> caonex, i will install dapper tomorrow
[08:43] <romulo> caonex, im in conflict with amd64 distros
[08:43] <romulo> =P
[08:43] <romulo> is something like *i hate you*
[08:43] <caonex> nickgarvey: I will msg you if I ge tit working
[08:44] <caonex> romulo: I have gotten this 64 to work nicely
[08:44] <unforcer> ubuntu has confilict with all platfrom
[08:44] <unforcer> s
[08:44] <nickgarvey> good luck
[08:44] <caonex> romulo: the only thing is the card
[08:44] <romulo> my 64 is working good
[08:44] <romulo> everything except the wireless is working
[08:44] <romulo> but 64 bit system is not for me
[08:44] <mike> does anyone have any suggestions on why i can't get my fglrx driver installed properly
[08:44] <mike> ?
[08:44] <caonex> romulo you use a built kernel or the one that comes with it?
[08:44] <unforcer> ubuntu is slow..
[08:44] <romulo> mike, probably you didnt followed the readme on them :D
[08:44] <caonex> romulo: binary one?
[08:44] <nickgarvey> sleep time
[08:44] <romulo> caonex, the one
[08:44] <romulo> caonex, i was using a built one
[08:44] <romulo> =p
[08:44] <mike> haha, i've follwed the readme in and out about a dozen times:)
[08:45] <romulo> mike, so you are unlucky :D
[08:45] <mike> haha, i'll take that as the answer!
[08:45] <OrTigaS> i tried visudo and add "user ALL=(ALL) ALL" but still the same wont accept sudo -s passwd
[08:45] <mike> i've got an ati 9100 igp
[08:45] <romulo> mike, boot X, install the driver on X, get off X, on console run ./ati-something --buildpkg Ubuntu/yourversion and then install the *.debs generated by buildpkg
[08:45] <mike> and can't get it
[08:45] <romulo> mike, is it supported by proprietary drivers?
[08:46] <mike> yah
[08:46] <romulo> mike, maybe it is supported by radeon
[08:46] <romulo> let me see
[08:46] <lgc> nalioth: good idea. So I'll proceed with certain confidence. Thanks...
[08:46] <ahmeni> Warbo: ooh, apparently debootstrap can even pull down ubuntu.
[08:46] <romulo> oh cool
[08:46] <romulo> it is supported
[08:46] <romulo> lucky guy :D
[08:46] <mike> i just can't get it installed
[08:47] <romulo> mike, whats the errors/output?
[08:47] <mike> i don't ever get errors
[08:47] <romulo> caonex, tomorrow i will make ati work on dapper.
[08:47] <romulo> caonex, so if you stick here, i can find a solution :D
[08:47] <OrTigaS> is it correct what i add in visudo?
[08:47] <mike> it's just mesa always shows up when i do fglrxinfo
[08:47] <caonex> romulo: you will get it.....but might not owrk for me
[08:47] <romulo> mike, ok, modprob'ed fglrx?
[08:47] <OrTigaS> or something missing on the command
[08:47] <mike> ??
[08:48] <romulo> caonex, if it doesnt you setup a ssh and i do it for you :D
[08:48] <caonex> romulo: the stuff in the bios and my ati is the problem
[08:48] <romulo> mike, installed the *.run on X?
[08:48] <lari> is ssh setup automatically with breezy ?
[08:48] <romulo> mike, what steps did you take?
[08:48] <caonex> romulo: if you get it to work I can do it.....I will try to do it now....I will open a shell if you can and I can't
[08:48] <mike> installed ati proprietary drivers
[08:48] <romulo> caonex, oki :D
[08:48] <caonex> romulo: I am trying to see where to download it from but can't find 5.15
[08:48] <romulo> mike, the question is.....how
[08:48] <caonex> or whatever
[08:48] <romulo> caonex, 5.15?
[08:49] <romulo> whats that?
[08:49] <romulo> dapper is 6.06
[08:49] <romulo> =P
[08:49] <mike> i created the ubuntu package from the ati installer.run
[08:49] <lari> approximately what date does Dapper go final ?
[08:49] <caonex> romulo: I think I got it....how stable is it?
[08:49] <romulo> mike, ok, so now you need the kernel one
[08:49] <romulo> mike, on X, do sudo ./ati-something
[08:49] <romulo> caonex, dunno, running amd64 debian yet
[08:49] <romulo> lari, 1st June 2006
[08:49] <ahmeni> Oh god I'm an idiot.
[08:49] <lari> ok thank you
[08:50] <romulo> yw
[08:50] <patrick52222> hey
[08:50] <mike> gah, no, so scared to try it
[08:50] <romulo> mike, why? =P
[08:50] <ahmeni> I'm thinking "argh, i don't have a blank CD to burn ubuntu on..", then I realize I've still got half the ubuntu cd's i ordered to give out at my LUG
[08:50] <mike> right now, i have 3d acceleration with the ati driver that comes with the install
[08:50] <caonex> romulo: is not in a point in which could harm my hardware, you think?
[08:50] <prgrmr> i was making a mistake and chnge the /etc/resolv.conf mode into 755 =\
[08:50] <romulo> caonex, it is fine for use i think
[08:51] <romulo> prgrmr, so undo it. sudo chmod 644 /etc/resolv.conf
[08:51] <caonex> romulo: that's cool...thanks....
[08:51] <caonex> romulo: on my way downloading flight 6
[08:51] <mike> haha, romulo, if you could walk me through step by step and guarantee that this time it work, i'd do it
[08:51] <cyphase> caonex, wait
[08:51] <romulo> i was thinking...if someone gets to your account(like sshing) and do sudo rm -rf /* , it will work?
[08:51] <cyphase> caonex, the beta s coming out tomorrow
[08:51] <romulo> mike, i cant guarantee....neither ATI cant
[08:52] <mike> lol
[08:52] <LTR2000> i'm switching back to Windows tomorrow, had to many problems with ubuntu over the past few weeks.
[08:52] <cyphase> maybe even in a few hours. i'm not sure
[08:52] <romulo> cyphase, dapper?
[08:52] <mike> i know
[08:52] <cyphase> romulo, yea
[08:52] <romulo> wow cool
[08:52] <romulo> so i wasted the server bandwith today twice :D
[08:52] <cyphase> lol
[08:52] <romulo> downloaded two isos of dapper
[08:52] <caonex> cyphase: why not just apt-get upgrade?
[08:52] <lari> is that legal ?
[08:52] <romulo> mike, still wanna try?
[08:52] <romulo> lari, what?
[08:52] <cyphase> by the time you download, burn, install, and start to get comfortable, the beta will be out
[08:52] <mike> ....yes.
[08:52] <lari> j/k :)
[08:52] <mike> lol
[08:52] <CNAP> what happens when you install a kernel designed for SMP support on a single proc machine?
[08:53] <caonex> cyphase: at what time tomorrow?
[08:53] <romulo> mike, ok, open up shell and do sudo ./ati-something.run
[08:53] <mike> i need to download it again first
[08:53] <lari> hmm
[08:53] <cyphase> caonex, i'm not sur
[08:53] <mike> hold ons
[08:53] <cyphase> sure*
[08:53] <prgrmr> romulo, i get error, chmod: changing permissions of 'etc/resolv.conf': Operation not permitted
[08:53] <lari> well if there are isos for dapper what am doing idle here ???
[08:53] <cyphase> maybe a few hours, maybe longer
[08:53] <caonex> cyphase: thanks for being so nice and letting us know
[08:53] <crimsun> CNAP: it just runs slightly slower
[08:53] <cyphase> caonex, my pleasure :)
[08:53] <romulo> prgrmr, sudo chattr -i /etc/resolv.conf && sudo chmod 644 /etc/resolv.conf
[08:53] <caonex> cyphase: you developer?
[08:53] <mike> i just want to download the ati.blahblah.run right?
[08:54] <romulo> cyphase, yeah, really thanks
[08:54] <romulo> but i will install the iso i got anyway =p
[08:54] <romulo> im crazy to see it
[08:54] <romulo> =P
[08:54] <romulo> like a crazy dog
[08:54] <cyphase> caonex, no, but i'm working on something that might go into dapper+1 or +2
[08:54] <romulo> ops, wait, maybe it comes with 2.6.16
[08:54] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: I suppose I should reboot now, shouldn't I?
[08:54] <romulo> =P
[08:54] <cyphase> romulo, your welcome
[08:54] <romulo> cyphase, whats it?
[08:54] <nalioth_zZz> lgc: nope
[08:54] <nalioth_zZz> lgc: you almost never have to reboot a linux system
[08:55] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: How about that! So the changes are in effect? Let me see then...
[08:55] <cyphase> romulo, it's a RSS/Atom/Feed framework
[08:55] <prgrmr> romulo, 10x again :)
[08:55] <romulo> cyphase, gtk?
[08:55] <cyphase> with some extra features
[08:55] <romulo> prgrmr, you welcome again :)
[08:55] <cyphase> romulo, it's probably going to be a daemon
[08:56] <romulo> cyphase, wich language?
[08:56] <lari> actually at this point in time why mess with Dapper since i'm not proficient enough to debug it.  and its a long way until it goes final.
[08:56] <cyphase> romulo, python, at least for now
[08:56] <romulo> cyphase, hmm cool
[08:56] <cyphase> i don't have much code right now
[08:56] <romulo> even if i dont like/dont know python
[08:56] <cyphase> mostly concept and design
[08:56] <romulo> cyphase, hmm
[08:56] <romulo> if you need help and going for a switch to C/c++, let me know
[08:56] <romulo> even mono is good
[08:56] <romulo> i mean, ok for help
[08:56] <cyphase> lol
[08:56] <cyphase> ok
[08:56] <romulo> not a good scripter
[08:57] <OrTigaS> i need help :)
[08:57] <romulo> except for php
[08:57] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: doesn't work and doesn't even let me log out of the graphical session!
[08:57] <OrTigaS> i tried visudo and add "user ALL=(ALL) ALL" but still the same wont accept sudo -s passwd
[08:57] <OrTigaS> or something missing on the command
[08:57] <romulo> lgc, ctrl+alt+breakspace will kill/restart your X session
[08:57] <mike> romulo, do i need to uninstall anything before i do this?
[08:57] <CNAP> how can you check your kernel version? i don't think uname -a is accurate
[08:57] <romulo> mike, not that i know
[08:57] <reter> i have a file that wont dpkg -i when i do the command http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12591
[08:57] <romulo> CNAP, uname -r
[08:57] <reter> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12591
[08:57] <romulo> reter, checking
[08:57] <lgc> romulo: thanks. Thing is it should let me out politely...
[08:57] <romulo> i love my epiphany
[08:57] <romulo> =)
[08:58] <romulo> lgc, yeah but since i dont know what you doing, cant say exactly :D
[08:58] <nalioth_zZz> lgc: go to your terminal and type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" (you will lose this irc session) or ctrl-alt-bkspace (you will lose this irc session)
[08:58] <CNAP> if i reboot, will it update my kernel version? because for some reason, i don't think that's entirely accurate
[08:58] <romulo> CNAP, you updated it?
[08:58] <Toma-> reter: whats the size of this file you have?
[08:58] <romulo> CNAP, like, you isntalled a new one?
[08:59] <reter> i dont kniow
[08:59] <romulo> reter, du -H sun-j2rel.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[08:59] <romulo> or du sun-j2rel.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[08:59] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: this is a text session, so I won't lose it. I am restarting via brute force...
[08:59] <Toma-> reter: looks like an incomplete download
[08:59] <firebird_619> could someone please take a look at the output from trying to install WW2D which I pasted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12588    I am trying to install WW2D on Breezy but it isn't working.
[08:59] <romulo> or ls -l sun-j2rel.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[08:59] <CNAP> romulo, yes i believe i did.  did an "apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-20-686"
[08:59] <mike> romulo, i'm running dapper
[09:00] <romulo> CNAP, ok so AFAIK you should reboot
[09:00] <mike> does that make a difference?
[09:00] <romulo> mike, afaik you dont need to uninstall it
[09:00] <romulo> mike, i never messed with dapper(YET, till tomorrow >:) )
[09:00] <CNAP> romulo, ok let me try it and see what happens
[09:00] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: it says the gnome kbd settings differ from those of the X sys settings. Which one should prevail?
[09:00] <romulo> CNAP, oki.
[09:00] <romulo> lgc, it depends.
[09:00] <reter> romalu: can not access. no such file or directory
[09:00] <lgc> romulo: on what?
[09:01] <romulo> reter, ls
[09:01] <romulo> and check if the file is there
[09:01] <romulo> lgc, depends on wich one you modified for the right
[09:01] <romulo> if they differ, sometihng is different
[09:01] <romulo> you should know the one is right
[09:01] <Toma-> reter: can you see the file in nautilus? just click it and itll tell you the size in the bottom toolbar
[09:01] <mike> what about the agpgart module stuff?
[09:01] <mike> any idea?
[09:01] <romulo> mike, i use ati's agp
[09:02] <mike> kk
[09:02] <patrick52222> how do i install .tar.gzz
[09:02] <mike> what card do youo have?
[09:02] <romulo> mike, from /etc/X11/xorg.conf, Section "Device" -> Option  "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"
[09:02] <romulo> mike, Ati Mobility Radeon X600
[09:02] <mike> sweet
[09:02] <romulo> yeah its an awesome card
[09:03] <mike> i'm so scared this wont' work
[09:03] <mike> lol
[09:03] <nalioth_zZz> lgc: do you use gnome more than anything else?
[09:03] <lgc> romulo: I just went through the reconfigure process. I just chose the Gnome settings in hope of the best...
[09:03] <romulo> dont be
[09:03] <mike> i had to reinstall earlier because i messed with some diversions
[09:03] <damian_> the most that could happen is your computer explode in a massive fireball .. you'll be dead
[09:03] <damian_> :P
[09:03] <mike> cause i didn't know what i was doing:(
[09:03] <mike> haha
[09:03] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: so far yes. I mean I don't have KDE installed...
[09:03] <romulo> i had once a computer burning on my side
[09:04] <romulo> cpu heated, melted and MB burned
[09:04] <nalioth_zZz> lgc: then try the gnome settings
[09:04] <mike> what's the diff between xfree86 and x.org?
[09:04] <patrick52222> i have this file ddclient.tar.gz and i need to install it
[09:04] <romulo> mike, X.org is more updated, no stupid license issues
[09:04] <romulo> mike, X.org is also prettier :D and a young girl
[09:04] <romulo> =P
[09:04] <mike> ahhhhhhh
[09:04] <romulo> you know...teens are hot
[09:04] <mike> hahahahahahahah
[09:04] <OrTigaS> i tried visudo and add "user ALL=(ALL) ALL" but still the same wont accept sudo -s passwd
[09:04] <romulo> mike, where you from
[09:05] <mike> u.s.
[09:05] <mike> iowa
[09:05] <romulo> OrTigaS, repeat your phrase wont make us know about your problem more than before
[09:05] <ahmeni> romulo: from super nerd to pervert in three lines!
[09:05] <romulo> ahmeni, haha
[09:05] <nalioth_zZz> !offtopic
[09:05] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[09:05] <romulo> i have my secrets ;)
[09:05] <romulo> nalioth_zZz, you are sleeping, you cant argue
[09:05] <romulo> =P
[09:06] <mike> so, after i download this, i'll create the ubuntu packages
[09:06] <mike> can i do that with x running?
[09:06] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: romulo, didn't work! The kbd is still dead!
[09:06] <romulo> mike, you should install the *.run from X first, then create and install the packages
[09:06] <OrTigaS> romulo i login as a user and i cant do "sudo -s" it always say "sorry, try again" when i enter the right passwd
[09:06] <mike> what?
[09:06] <OrTigaS> so its sudoer issue
[09:07] <callum> hi
[09:07] <romulo> OrTigaS, i dont know much about sudo, cant help you with this
[09:07] <romulo> mike, thats right
[09:07] <callum> hello
[09:07] <OrTigaS> sudo cant help here :(
[09:07] <callum> can u hear me
[09:07] <mike> you're just gonna have to give me step by step code as well
[09:07] <mike> :)
[09:07] <romulo> mike, you should run as superuser the *.run file inside X(on a X session) and then buildpkg and install the debs
[09:07] <romulo> mike, oki, as long i stay awake
[09:07] <mike> haha
[09:08] <romulo> callum, yes
[09:08] <mike> xsession is just like... gnome or kde, right?
[09:08] <romulo> mike, yeah
[09:08] <patrick52222> i have this file ddclient.tar.gz and i need to install it
[09:08] <romulo> patrick24601, tar -zxvf ddclient.tar.gz
[09:08] <callum> sweet
[09:08] <romulo> cd to the directory and read the README file.
[09:08] <romulo> or even INSTALL or COMPILE
[09:08] <callum> how do i open terminal
[09:08] <mike> so, the .run file executes, and prompts me to either do an install that way, or create packages
[09:08] <romulo> callum, gnome or kde?
[09:08] <mike> i want to create packages, not do the install
[09:08] <callum> gnome
[09:09] <romulo> callum, Alt<F2>, gnome-terminal, <RETURN>
[09:09] <Blario> anyone know what to do to get the wireless working on a laptop?
[09:09] <romulo> mike, you need to do both
[09:09] <Blario> hp zv6000
[09:09] <Blario> actually, nvm, i can google this
[09:09] <romulo> mike, just install commonly with the run
[09:09] <mike> blario, do you have dapper?
[09:09] <Blario> yeah
[09:09] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: with X setting it DOES work!
[09:09] <callum> alt f2 aint working
[09:09] <mike> yeah, you want to use ndiswrapper?
[09:09] <romulo> mike, then generate the buildpkg and install then
[09:09] <Blario> i tested with teh live cd and it would never connect
[09:09] <mikeo1> how do i extract a deb?
[09:10] <Blario> i hate ndiswrapper
[09:10] <Blario> lol
[09:10] <mike> i love it:)
[09:10] <callum> is gnome debian?
[09:10] <Blario> ok... question
[09:10] <mike> only way i've ever gotten my wireless card to work
[09:10] <romulo> callum, no.
[09:10] <mikeo1> how do i extract a package?
[09:10] <callum> ok
[09:10] <Blario> did you ever get it to a point where could switch network easily?
[09:10] <romulo> callum, www.debian.org and www.gnome.org, you should have answers
[09:10] <mike> yeah
[09:10] <mike> gtk wifi
[09:10] <Blario> i had it running on fc4 and after i would disconnect from one, i would have to restart to be able to get on another
[09:11] <romulo> mikeo1, dpkg -x package.deb
[09:11] <Blario> and you have some gui that works wit it?
[09:11] <romulo> to install, dpkg -i package.deb
[09:11] <mike> yeah
[09:11] <romulo> Blario, i do, but ndiswrapper dont work here
[09:11] <Blario> cause i was having to do all my connecting and configuration from cmd line
[09:11] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: you awake?
[09:11] <callum> does anyone have the link to java?
[09:11] <romulo> check up wifi-radar on gnomefiles.org i think
[09:11] <romulo> callum, www.sun.com/java i believe
[09:11] <Blario> alright
[09:11] <mike> ya, wifi radar is a good one
[09:11] <nalioth_zZz> lgc: muy bien!
[09:12] <Blario> alright, imma write both those down
[09:12] <Blario> you all know this works by default on suse right? lol
[09:12] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: only thing is, with the other user I chose Gnome settings and it didn't work. How can I revert the settings to be those of X?
[09:12] <mike> yeah, but i love ubuntu
[09:12] <mike> :)
[09:13] <Blario> [03:11]  (romulo) Blario, i do, but ndiswrapper dont work here
[09:13] <Blario> you said it doesn't work on dapper?
[09:13] <romulo> Blario, no.
[09:13] <romulo> Blario, actually im running debian-amd64 , not dapper
[09:13] <Blario> alright, that might be a good thing
[09:13] <nalioth_zZz> lgc: use the settings that work  System > preferences > keyboard
[09:13] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: thanks!
[09:14] <Blario> alright, so i'd use wifi-radar instead of ndiswrapper. . . ?
[09:14] <mike> alright romulo, it'sdownloaded
[09:14] <mike> what command to install?
[09:14] <romulo> Blario, no, you use both together
[09:14] <Blario> ahh
[09:14] <Blario> alright
[09:14] <romulo> Blario, first do ndiswrapper, and use wifi-radar to do graphical configuration
[09:14] <Blario> ahh
[09:14] <romulo> mike, whats the file name?
[09:14] <Blario> alright
[09:14] <tyler> How do I make the clock in Kubuntu not use military time?
[09:14] <Tomcat_> Somebody with breezy here who can confirm that firefox-1.0.8 doesn't show the "Manage Bookmarks" window any more?
[09:15] <mike> ati-driver-installer-8.24.8-x86.run
[09:15] <alth> Greetings!
[09:15] <romulo> mike, ok, sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8.24.8-x86.run
[09:15] <callum> tyler, right click, prefrences
[09:15] <mike> does it matter where i run it from?
[09:15] <romulo> mike, it should be runned from the folder the file is in
[09:15] <Blario> alth, that's what i'm about to try
[09:15] <alth> Blario: Cool :)
[09:16] <Blario> any issues i should know about?
[09:16] <mike> i mean, but does it need to be anywhere special?
[09:16] <romulo> alth, doing debian-amd64 on my laptop, going for dapper
[09:16] <romulo> mike, no.
[09:16] <mike> like right now i downloaded the file to my desktop
[09:16] <mike> k
[09:16] <Alth> romulo, cool :)
[09:16] <romulo> Alth, yeah
[09:16] <romulo> Alth, may i ask you wich wireless card?
[09:16] <Alth> I did have a question regarding my latop...
[09:16] <romulo> if you have one
[09:17] <rony_> Does any one here find that evolution crashes at lauch when using an exchange server as the mail server?
[09:17] <Alth> romulo: I have a PCMCIA card, D-link DWL-650 I think, but I hven't tried to get it working yet.
[09:17] <mike> whoa, it doesn't let me do sudo
[09:17] <romulo> mike, whats the output?
[09:18] <Blario> pz. about to try this install
[09:18] <mike> command not found
[09:18] <romulo> brb 1 min.
[09:18] <Alth> Anyway, my question - in windows, my laptop can scroll scrollbars with the sides of the trackpad. Is there any way to do that in Linux?
[09:19] <ronybeck> any one know why Evolution crashes at launch when using the exchange plugin?
[09:19] <acad> hey jeery
[09:19] <PwcrLinux> Hi there
[09:19] <Alth> Anyone know?
[09:20] <Alth> Guess not :(
[09:20] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: It's working fine now! Thanks a million, man!
[09:20] <vinboy> hi
[09:21] <vinboy> i'm using athlon
[09:21] <vinboy> should I sudo apt-get install linux-686?
[09:21] <lari> yes i think that would be wise
[09:21] <romulo> vinboy, i think athlon is k7
[09:21] <romulo> back
[09:21] <lari> actually
[09:21] <lari> yes
[09:21] <lari> k7
[09:21] <romulo> isnt 686 pentium 2 and pentium 3/pro
[09:21] <lari> 686 might have optimizations the athlon processor doesn't support
[09:22] <Alth> Ok, another question. What are the disadvantages in running Dapper?
[09:22] <lari> its a beta
[09:22] <mike> romula, shouldn't it let me install it that way?
[09:22] <romulo> Alth, its not done.
[09:22] <mike> romulo
[09:22] <romulo> mike, you should try su then
[09:22] <Alth> romulo, I see.
[09:22] <lgc> nalioth_zZz: I'm off for tonight. Again: Muchas gracias!!
[09:22] <romulo> mike, type whereis sudo
[09:22] <lgc> q
[09:22] <lgc> q
[09:23] <mike> /usr/bin/sudo
[09:23] <romulo> so
[09:23] <mike> /usr/bin/X11/sudo
[09:23] <romulo> /usr/bin/sudo ./ati-something.run
[09:23] <mike> /usr/share/man/man8/sudo.8.gz
[09:23] <sfar> Anyone know how to get anti-aliased fonts in aMSN? I found this page but i still dont get it: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-84765.html
[09:23] <romulo> still trying to figure why it said sudo command not found
[09:24] <mike> is  there another way to execute .run files?
[09:24] <romulo> does TK support anti alias?
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> can someone remind me what is the wiki entry to get anti-aliased fonts?
[09:24] <romulo> mike
[09:24] <romulo> yes
[09:24] <romulo> mike, infact i forgot to tell ya to chmod it
[09:24] <sfar> romulo, what is TK?
[09:24] <romulo> chmod +x ati-something
[09:24] <mike> ahahahahaha
[09:24] <romulo> sfar, afaik aMsn is built under tk
[09:24] <mike> thar we go
[09:24] <romulo> sorry
[09:25] <sfar> romulo:  because on the page someone has written "Also when compiling TK I had to change --with-tcl=/usr/local/lib/tcl8.5 to --with-tcl=/usr/local/lib."
[09:25] <mike> now it says detected version of x does not have a matching "x700" directory
[09:25] <romulo> hmm maybe that person tk library is on /usr/local/lib =P
[09:25] <caiziyuan> hello
[09:25] <romulo> mike, hmm why x700?
[09:25] <mike> i am apparently runing xorg 7.0.0
[09:26] <romulo> hmm
[09:26] <romulo> you can do X --version
[09:26] <vinboy> romulo: so I should install linux-k7?
[09:26] <sfar> romulo: so how do i recompile TK? :)
[09:26] <romulo> vinboy, yeah
[09:26] <romulo> vinboy, is a athlon xp or 64?
[09:26] <vinboy> romulo: thanks :D
[09:26] <romulo> sfar, hmm download the tarballs and recompile it
[09:26] <romulo> vinboy, yw
[09:26] <caiziyuan> #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:26] <vinboy> it is athlon xp mobile
[09:26] <Alth> Is ubuntu likely to detect my D-Link card automatically?
[09:27] <romulo> so k7
[09:27] <Alth> If not, what should I do?
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> Alth: boot with the livecd first
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> to make sure
[09:28] <romulo> fyrestrtr, maybe the kernel is old and might not find it, no?
[09:28] <romulo> anyway it needs to be tested =P
[09:29] <romulo> mike, so?
[09:29] <mike> how do you enable su?
[09:29] <xbox_sky> vmware - LPT1 Port "check device or cable error" i'm trying to use my mp3 player in vmware, how do I use/give access to my LPT1 Port?
[09:29] <romulo> mike, i think thats in the ubuntu faq
[09:29] <nmsa> good morning
[09:30] <romulo> xbox_sky, it is on paralel port?
[09:30] <xbox_sky> romulo yeah that's correct
[09:30] <romulo> xbox_sky, paralel is /dev/ttySX?
[09:30] <romulo> i cant remember
[09:30] <romulo> =P
[09:31] <nmsa> just installed dapper on a PIII and after the updated Gnome starts no more and the system is blocked; can't do a thing except reset; anyone had the same issue? any solution ?
[09:31] <xbox_sky> hmm
[09:31] <xbox_sky> romulo there's a /dev/tty but not SX?
[09:31] <romulo> nmsa, you cant even login?
[09:31] <romulo> xbox_sky, i dont remember -_-
[09:31] <nmsa> can't do anything!
[09:31] <mcdenyer> hey whats a sweet game i can get of synaptic haha im bored
[09:31] <romulo> nmsa, kernel finish loading AND?
[09:32] <romulo> mcdenyer, mahjongg
[09:32] <romulo> :D
[09:32] <xbox_sky> oh ok tx anyways
[09:32] <nmsa> romulo: I see starting Gnome and then a black screen and the cursor not bliking
[09:32] <mike> k, romulo, installing
[09:32] <nmsa> can't go to console mode, nothing
[09:32] <xbox_sky> there's a linux app I can use, but after 4 mp3s the rest gets corrupted :
[09:32] <mike> custom or automatic install?
[09:33] <romulo> sh*t, sorry i closed xchat
[09:33] <romulo> misclicked
[09:33] <mike> romulo you scared me
[09:33] <mike> anyway, custom or automatic install?
[09:33] <romulo> automatic
[09:33] <romulo> its cold here, brb, going to get a shirt
[09:34] <Alth> Alth: boot with the livecd first <-- I'm running ubuntu now :P
[09:34] <mike> romulo, k, exiting installer now
[09:34] <Alth> Right, I'm rebooting and hoping it'll detect
[09:34] <mike> do i need to do any config file stuff?
[09:34] <mike> or wait?
[09:34] <nmsa> I think I will reinstall again and will not update soon, but don't know the problems ... or maybe update w/o the X or gnome packages
[09:34] <romulo> mike, now do the buildpkg
[09:35] <romulo> sudo ./ati-something --buildpkg Ubuntu/yours =P
[09:35] <mike> k
[09:35] <romulo> i think theres a --list command or something, check out the --help
[09:35] <PwcrLinux> good morning paul
[09:36] <romulo> how do you know you love linux? You buy a penguin instead of a dog
[09:36] <romulo> =P
[09:36] <ompaul> !goodmorning
[09:36] <mat> good morning
[09:36] <romulo> morning, altough is 4:40 am here
[09:36] <romulo> =P
[09:36] <mike> says requested package is not supported
[09:36] <mike> :|
[09:37] <mat> 9:36 AM here
[09:37] <romulo> hmm try a diff revision
[09:37] <romulo> let me see
[09:37] <PwcrLinux> 237 am here
[09:37] <mike> can't i use the installer to generate packages?
[09:37] <romulo> oh yes
[09:37] <romulo> try it
[09:37] <romulo> =P
[09:37] <mike> k
[09:38] <romulo> hmm there is Ubuntu/dapper
[09:38] <mike> yeah
[09:38] <mike> ubuntu/dapper
[09:38] <mike> or ubuntu/6.04
[09:39] <romulo> hmm capital "U"
[09:39] <TraceGreen> Hello, I try to boot system, but there is nothing in /dev, anyone know why?
[09:39] <romulo> thats freaky =P
[09:40] <mike> i say...
[09:40] <romulo> omg im freazing
[09:40] <romulo> =P
[09:40] <mike> haha
[09:40] <mike> dapper
[09:40] <mike> can i use this ati installer and create 'em?
[09:40] <mike> or do i need to exit and it via commandline?
[09:40] <Alth> On my windows box now with my laptop next to me...easier to type :D
[09:40] <romulo> i dunno
[09:40] <romulo> i always do on command line
[09:40] <cafuego> ATI installer?
[09:40] <romulo> cafuego, yes.
[09:40] <mike> k
[09:41] <Alth> Hmm, the laptop didn't detect the wireless card...Not sure if the card is dead or not. Do I have to do anything special?
[09:41] <cafuego> Use the fglrx package.
[09:41] <mike> ???
[09:41] <romulo> cafuego, hes doing the default way with ati installer
[09:41] <cafuego> !ati
[09:41] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[09:41] <cafuego> romulo: He shouldn't.
[09:41] <romulo> cafuego, well he didnt set the binary before, so as long as i know the default one, im helping him
[09:41] <romulo> im not yet on my dapper wishes
[09:42] <romulo> mike?
[09:42] <brownie17> does anyone know if there's some command i can type to check my net status?
[09:42] <Alth> Anyone know if I have to do anything special to run a PCMCIA card? Or if the card works should it just run?
[09:42] <mike> kya?
[09:42] <cafuego> installing unpackaged software is a bad idea, especially when it's as low-quality as ATI stuff
 does anyone know if there's some command i can type to check my net status? <== Ping?
[09:42] <romulo> mike, so?
[09:42] <mike> ??
[09:42] <romulo> mike, extracted?
[09:43] <brownie17> Alth,  new to linux, it still in format "ping http://www.google.com"? for example?
[09:43] <romulo> cafuego, i agree, but since i didnt knew that before, i couldnt help him
[09:43] <mike> i want to do it the other way
[09:43] <mike> lol
[09:43] <mike> i can't create the packages through commandline
[09:43] <PwcrLinux> brownie17: : for netstat of listening ports or send a ping on server to check if they're alive?
[09:43] <romulo> mike, great, so just follow the links :D
[09:43] <Alth> Sure is, brownie17.
[09:43] <romulo> should be easier
[09:43] <cafuego> 'sudo apt-get install fglrx; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[09:43] <NET||abuse> i've got a problem, i've enabled universe and even backports, ut i can't find libmysqlclient15
[09:44] <mike> what was the !ati thing?
[09:44] <brownie17> Alth, "ping: unknown host http://www.google.com
[09:44] <brownie17> "
[09:44] <romulo> a bot command
[09:44] <romulo> probably
[09:44] <brownie17> PwcrLinux, just to check if my net is working
[09:44] <Alth> No http://?
[09:44] <romulo> cafuego you forgot the xorg-driver-fglrx
[09:44] <cafuego> mike: Go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:44] <mike> i already installed via the ati installer though
[09:44] <cafuego> mike: it has full instructions.
[09:45] <Alth> brownie17: Just do ping www.google.com. :)
[09:45] <romulo> i think that doesnt make diff mike
[09:45] <cafuego> mike: Remove whatever the ATI installer put on your system and cross your fingers.
[09:45] <romulo> you can still install the pkg ones
[09:45] <Alth> Or ubuntu.com, if you want to be loyal :P
[09:45] <romulo> lol.
[09:45] <PwcrLinux> brownie17: in the terminal box, and type  "ping addy" and be aware the ping doesn't end, you can use ctrl-c to cancell pingings
[09:45] <brownie17> Alth, thanks. that works fine and dandy
[09:45] <romulo> cafuego, been using ati installer for a long time, its not that bad.
[09:45] <NET||abuse> i've got a 5.0.16 mysql server on a system here, but i want to connect to it remotely, problem is my mysqlclient is too old, doesn't support authentication method, is the error message
[09:45] <romulo> its just not cool out the box, but it works
[09:45] <romulo> and it doesnt mess with your system
[09:45] <brownie17> PwcrLinux, in windows there is a switch you can use so it only pings for 15 seconds
[09:45] <mike> gah, i've doing this one ove rand over
[09:45] <romulo> since it generates *.debs
[09:45] <cafuego> romulo: ATI is _so_ bad that I couldn't even use their hardware until last year.
[09:45] <vinboy> i have installed the linux-k7
[09:46] <mike> romulo, i'm with you
[09:46] <vinboy> how do I use that kernel instead of the 386?
[09:46] <romulo> cafuego, i agree is bad on linux
[09:46] <mike> i'm creating the packages
[09:46] <NET||abuse> so since 14 is the most up to date i can find in the debs,,, i presume is libmysqlclient15 i need
[09:46] <cafuego> They still don't support powerpc.
[09:46] <niss3> some swedish here?
[09:46] <cafuego> vinboy: Just reboot
[09:46] <PwcrLinux> brownie17: yes, for windows limits to 15 pings, so the linux have unlimited of pings..
[09:46] <romulo> cafuego, nvidia does?
[09:46] <romulo> PwcrLinux, actually if you do ping -t on windows it goes unlimited
[09:46] <romulo> =P
[09:46] <cafuego> romulo: not powerpc, but they have supported amd64 (what I have) for a very long time.
[09:47] <NET||abuse> brownie17, -t just keeps going
[09:47] <romulo> cafuego, ati too.
[09:47] <romulo> im using amd64 drivers right now
[09:47] <romulo> with 3d acceleration
[09:47] <PwcrLinux> romulo: Oh yea, I forgot lol
[09:47] <C-O-L-T> Where is ubuntu BETA, today is April the 20th
[09:47] <sfar> What to do if my keyboard isn't responding? It works, but niss3 configured xserver-xorg wrong so that almost NO buttons work :)
[09:47] <cafuego> romulo: No, not ATI. Not supported when I bought mine, which was over a year since it was first introduced.
[09:47] <brownie17> PwcrLinux, is english your primary language? i'm having a little trouble understandinhg you sorry
[09:47] <sfar> s/my/a
[09:47] <PwcrLinux> brownie17: yea, i'm in USA
[09:47] <niss3> i changed my keymap :(
[09:47] <romulo> cafuego, i dunno a year ago, but since i bought my notebook it does support it, and well.
[09:48] <romulo> cafuego, not so well as i wish to
[09:48] <mike> no, that didn't work
[09:48] <mike> damnit
[09:48] <brownie17> PwcrLinux, so there is no switch to limit the pings?
[09:48] <romulo> mike, what? generate the packages?
[09:48] <vinboy> thx cafuego
[09:48] <mike> yeah
[09:48] <sfar> He cant login (enter his username) without a keyboard.. please help :)
[09:48] <romulo> do a modprobe fglrx and then change your driver on xorg.conf from ati, radeon to fglrx
[09:48] <PwcrLinux> brownie17: hang on
[09:49] <PwcrLinux> romulo: is there a ping can limits up to 15 pings in the linux terminal box?
[09:49] <romulo> cafuego, i still hate those closed source drivers
[09:49] <romulo> PwcrLinux, dunno, i just ctrl+c when i want to stop it
[09:49] <romulo> =P
[09:49] <PwcrLinux> romulo: okay
[09:49] <ahmeni> PwcrLinux: ping -c 15 blah.com
[09:49] <romulo> yeah
[09:49] <romulo> thats right
[09:49] <PwcrLinux> aha
[09:49] <romulo> man ping show -c means count :D
[09:50] <brownie17> PwcrLinux, it's okay, i found one
[09:50] <romulo> was just looking =P
[09:50] <brownie17> PwcrLinux, thanks for your help
[09:50] <brownie17> cya
[09:50] <PwcrLinux> brownie17: ur welcome
[09:51] <mike> ah, didn't have build essential installed
[09:51] <niss3> can i login to my account if my keyboard dosent work? :/
[09:51] <niss3> if yes, how?
[09:52] <ompaul> niss3, if your machine has sshd invoked you can log in remotely but dead keyboards should be replaced with live ones :)
[09:52] <romulo> ompaul, hahaha
[09:53] <mike> k
[09:53] <mike> packages generate
[09:53] <romulo> ompaul, live ones that eat your fingers and stick you to computer til 6am
[09:53] <romulo> =P
[09:53] <mike> d
[09:53] <romulo> mike, dpkg -i the driver and driver-dev now
[09:53] <romulo> =P
[09:53] <PwcrLinux> spilled onto kb? or just dead? lol
[09:53] <ompaul> !enter
[09:53] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[09:53] <ompaul> romulo, ^^
[09:53] <ahmeni> Real men generate PS/2 data by hand!
[09:53] <niss3> !enter
[09:53] <romulo> ubotu, sorry.
[09:53] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, romulo
[09:53] <ompaul> that is the channel bot
[09:53] <FlannelKing> !bot
[09:53] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[09:54] <NET||abuse> please can someone help me.... i've been trying to connect to a mysql server versin 5.0.16, i'm pretty sure i need the libmysqlclient15 package, however i've done everything i know how and can only find libmysqlclient14 in the debs.. i've enabled universe and backports...
[09:54] <niss3> ompaul i changed my keymap to "see" :/
[09:54] <romulo> yeah i know
[09:54] <emu_> hi
[09:54] <NET||abuse> What do i need to do?
[09:54] <FlannelKing> niss3: thats an OS speciifc thing, right? so, you can switch to rescue mode from grub?
[09:55] <mike> k
[09:55] <mike> rom
[09:55] <mike> did both
[09:55] <ompaul> niss3, so try to work out by using the echo function in the "username" space what the letters are now mapped to
[09:55] <romulo> mike, ok, so now open up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:55] <niss3> FlannelKing yes, i have tried that to. but when im restaring the computer (i wanna login to my account) then the keys dont work.
[09:56] <ompaul> mike please put all your thoughts on one line with a comma between them, thanks
[09:56] <romulo> lol
[09:57] <mike> alright romulo, i opened the xorg.conf file
[09:57] <Marco> who'sMatthew
[09:57] <mike> and disregarded ompauls comment
[09:57] <xbox_sky> im in vmware options, and it needs an output file in order to locate my lpt1 port, anyone know where Its located?
[09:57] <mike> :)
[09:57] <romulo> mike, search for Device Section wich says Driver "radeon", ati or fglrx
[09:57] <Marco> I'm  sorry!!
[09:57] <romulo> mike, oh, better, run aticonfig
[09:58] <mike> so, don't edit the xorg?
[09:58] <romulo> yeah
[09:58] <romulo> aticonfig --initial
[09:58] <mike> k
[09:59] <mike> now open xorg.conf?
[09:59] <romulo> no no
[09:59] <romulo> modprobe fglrx
[09:59] <mike> operation not permittted?
[09:59] <romulo> sudo modprobe fglrx
[10:00] <ompaul> romulo, there is a much easier way, mike: >>sudo dpkg-recongfigure xserver-xorg<< and choose fglrx as the card
[10:00] <mike> no love
[10:00] <romulo> ompaul, aticonfig --initial already does that
[10:00] <romulo> mike, what you mean?
[10:01] <mike> error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-20-686/volatile/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted
[10:01] <teletubbie> how do I setup ossmixer for ubuntu?
[10:01] <romulo> hmm, just try to reopen X.org
[10:01] <teletubbie> my gnome volume tells me it is using ossmixer. but how do I configure my  media player to use ossmixer?
[10:01] <romulo> mike, Ctrl+alt+Backspace or relog
[10:02] <mike> k
[10:04] <C-O-L-T> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta?highlight=%28beta%29
[10:05] <mike> k, restarted x
[10:05] <teletubbie> some one helps me with esd. why do I get these errors? http://pastebin.com/670898
[10:06] <romulo> mike, run fgl_glxgears
[10:06] <mike> didn't run
[10:06] <mike> badrequest badmatch
[10:06] <mike> failed request i mean
[10:07] <romulo> hmm so driver isnt up
[10:07] <romulo> type lsmod | grep fglrx
[10:07] <mike> doesn't show anyting
[10:07] <PwcrLinux> bbl
[10:07] <mike> i never changed the xorg to fglrx
[10:07] <romulo> mike, aticonfig does that for you afaik
[10:08] <mikl> where's the "Take screenshot"-option in the menus gone? Can you turn it back on?
[10:08] <mike> should i look at the xorg.conf?
[10:08] <romulo> mike, try to load the fglrx again, sudo modprobe fglrx
[10:08] <mikl>  - I think it used to be in the "System" menu
[10:08] <ompaul> mike https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI that is a step by step guide to doing what you want
[10:08] <Ohzie> Hey. Are there any packages in Synaptic for a virtual machine?
[10:08] <mike> ompaul, i've tried taht guide like 3 times
[10:09] <ompaul> mike, how new to market is the card?
[10:09] <mike> it's a 9100 igp
[10:09] <mike> it's old to the market
[10:09] <teletubbie> why can't I do apt-get install qt?
[10:09] <teletubbie> !qt
[10:09] <ubotu> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package
[10:11] <mike> why do i have two device sections in my xorg.conf?
[10:11] <ompaul> mike, correct me if I am wrong I think your on dapper, there are notes at the bottom of the page about same, might be worth looking at
[10:11] <mike> yeah, i'm on dapper
[10:11] <ompaul> the other thing is that the dapper channel is #ubuntu+1
[10:12] <romulo> mike, ati creates it, but it sets its own to default
[10:13] <ice_1963> is there a driver for ati?
[10:13] <Alth> Popular question =o
[10:13] <ice_1963> for linux
[10:13] <romulo> !ati
[10:13] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[10:13] <romulo> now i say only that =p
[10:13] <C-O-L-T> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperBeta?highlight=%28beta%29
[10:14] <romulo> what changed C-O-L-T ?
[10:15] <C-O-L-T> romulo: that is the Dapper Drake BETA page, the iso's are not there but soon we will see those too, they are loading them now
[10:15] <romulo> C-O-L-T, hmm i just asked cause u pasted twice
[10:16] <FlannelKing> romulo: you can upgrade to the beta, the command is on that page, gksudo something, near the top
[10:16] <romulo> im crazy to download those isos, will install them today, after school will buy some blank cdrs :D
[10:16] <romulo> FlannelKing, using debian-amd64 right now.
[10:16] <romulo> FlannelKing, will go to dapper today, waiting the beta
[10:17] <C-O-L-T> romulo: I know :). In order to inform the community :))
[10:17] <romulo> ah cool =)
[10:18] <romulo> lets everybody download through torrents ;)
[10:18] <teletubbie> !sound
[10:18] <ubotu> I guess sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[10:18] <svenske> Does anyone knows, what`s the problem with the german breezy sources. no updates... de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu ---> it's dead?
[10:19] <teletubbie> !esd
[10:20] <polpak> !info esd
[10:20] <teletubbie> in what line should I put this line? alias sound-slot-0 nvsound
[10:21] <teletubbie> in what file*
[10:22] <Alth> Question.
[10:22] <Alth> How does one manage multiple monitors on Ubuntu?
[10:22] <GruB> yo everybody:D
[10:22] <polpak> Alth, there isn't an easy way. Generally you have to tweek your xorg.conf file manually
[10:23] <GruB> czy jest kto z Polski??
[10:23] <polpak> !pl
[10:23] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:23] <GruB> jestem na ubuntu.pl
[10:23] <GruB> ale szukam polskich czatw:D
[10:23] <Alth> polpak - I'm running Ubuntu on my laptop. Want to just plug an external monitor in and have it ignore the LCD temporarily.
[10:23] <polpak> Alth, what's the output from lspci?
[10:24] <polpak> Alth, use pastebin pls
[10:24] <fliegenderfrosch> hello! i've just installed ubuntu dapper on a Asus A6Vc notebook. Now the sound is not working. The Audio-Preferences dialog tells me, the sound card is a "HDA Intel", so it seems to be recognized. Can anybody help me?
[10:24] <Alth> polpak: Pardon, would you speak noob please? :P
[10:24] <Alth> Also, I'm IRCing from my windows box, easier to type here. Just so you know.
[10:25] <polpak> Alth, open a terminal, and type lspci. Then copy/paste the output from that command into pastebin
[10:25] <polpak> !pastebin
[10:25] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[10:25] <GruB> i'm noob :D
[10:25] <GruB> 
[10:25] <GruB> 
[10:25] <GruB> but i love Ubuntu;pp
[10:25] <GruB> oka ja lece
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[10:25] <Rhasta> wow
[10:29] <ice_1963> hello :) when i go to install ubuntu i tip server to install the bass.....then i install xserver-xorg then x-window-system-core  ..but how do i install gnome-desktop?
[10:29] <chavo> ice_1963, ubuntu-desktop
[10:29] <ice_1963> that's it
[10:30] <ice_1963> ok t/u
[10:30] <polpak> ice_1963, are you just wanting gnome, or do you want everything else?
[10:30] <stylewalka> hi  I problems installing java, maybe anyone could help me ?
[10:30] <ice_1963> jest gnome
[10:30] <polpak> ice_1963, you don't want ubuntu-desktop then
[10:31] <ice_1963> ok
[10:31] <polpak> ice_1963, try gnome-core
[10:31] <polpak> stylewalka, what's the problem?
[10:31] <tlop1970> hola
[10:32] <ice_1963> polpak:gnome-core is not it :)
[10:32] <polpak> ice_1963, how so?
[10:32] <stylewalka> there is an error with backport site: I took http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net
[10:33] <ice_1963> when i tip in gnome-core it dos not install gnome
[10:33] <polpak> ice_1963, sudo apt-get install gnome-core
[10:33] <tlop1970> hola carlos
[10:33] <ice_1963> that's not it
[10:34] <teletubbie> how do you configure a software to use osssink as audio output
[10:34] <ice_1963> i did that
[10:34] <polpak> stylewalka, I think you're following out of date instructions
[10:34] <ompaul> stylewalka, forget that and read the messages that ubotu (channel bot) sent you
[10:34] <ndlovu> hi all. My ubuntu machine has frozen, and I was wondering if there's any data I can collect from it that would be useful for developers doing bugtracking and the like? Or is it best to ignore it, reboot and carry on regardless?
[10:34] <polpak> ice_1963, ok.. so you should have gnome
[10:35] <polpak> ndlovu, if you have another machine and you installed openssh-server you could try to ssh in and see what's causeing the holdup
[10:35] <ice_1963> no i'm running kde right now
[10:35] <ice_1963> in etch
[10:36] <ndlovu> polpak: can't ssh in, but I see it works to open up another terminal on the machine
[10:36] <bliss1_> hi
[10:36] <romulo> going down
[10:36] <romulo> morning guys
[10:36] <polpak> ice_1963, ndlovu if you use top you might be able to see what's locking up and kill it
[10:36] <ndlovu> polpak: it seems to be X that's frozen then
[10:36] <ice_1963> ok
[10:36] <polpak> ndlovu, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:37] <polpak> ice_1963, sorry, that wasn't for you
[10:37] <ice_1963> lol
[10:37] <polpak> ice_1963, you need to log out to the console and restart X with gnome
[10:37] <ndlovu> polpak: I'm not too worried about getting it working, I was more wondering if it's somehting I should try to figure out in case it's a bug in the system, or is it more trouble than it's worth?
[10:37] <ice_1963> i will
[10:38] <ice_1963> polpak t u
[10:38] <polpak> ndlovu, unless it's the same thing everytime it may be more trouble than it's worth
[10:39] <bliss1_> DBO: how it going DBO?
[10:39] <ndlovu> polpak: thanks, I'll just restart then and give it more attention if it seems to be recurring.
[10:41] <yellow> hi
[10:41] <yellow> hi popak
[10:41] <nmsa> romulo: my gdm is ok, was and upgrade not completed ok
[10:41] <nmsa> now is ok
[10:42] <Hobbsee> Alth: hehe
[10:42] <Hobbsee> rmeove one?
[10:42] <Hobbsee> s/remove?
[10:42] <chavo> Alth, have you tried synergy?
[10:42] <selinium> Alth
[10:42] <yellow> thank you friends this is advocacy i was able to connect to gaim
[10:43] <selinium> Alth I have been known to do the same if with my mobile phone.... :)
[10:43] <selinium> Morning ompaul :)
[10:43] <ompaul> morning selinium
 Alth, have you tried synergy? <-- The KVM client thing?
[10:43] <yellow> hi
[10:43] <Alth> * ompaul hands Alth a can of paint <-- Thanks :P
[10:43] <chavo> yes you can use one mouse and keyboard for both computers
[10:44] <joachim> which group do is needed to use the administrator mode?
[10:44] <Alth> chavo - One linux, one windows, and the two won't network properly? :P
[10:44] <chavo> ahh
[10:44] <yellow> cant find anything wwwwwwwwwwith ubunto
[10:44] <chavo> well I use it between Windows and Linux, but the network is setup
[10:44] <Alth> My main box hates networking. My backup server networked fine.
[10:45] <yellow> boringgg
[10:45] <joachim> anyone?
[10:45] <yellow> windows ia far much bette you know
[10:45] <Warbo> joachim: admin
[10:45] <ompaul> yellow, ohh behave
[10:45] <Warbo> yellow: And spell
[10:45] <yellow> betteer
[10:45] <Alth> Better, damnit :P
[10:45] <yellow> sddjk
[10:46] <joachim> Warbo: okey.. i have that group when i try to use administrator mode i get cannot communicate with sudo
[10:46] <joachim> forgot a , there :p
[10:46] <joachim> *.
[10:46] <Warbo> joachim: Sounds like a problem with sudo, maybe networking
[10:47] <yellow> yeah better damn it
[10:47] <Warbo> Is it just me or do isos take ages to copy over USB 1? :(
[10:47] <DBO> yes they would
[10:47] <selinium> Warbo, they do, yes...
[10:48] <joachim> Warbo: yeah i can't get the net up.. something wrong somewhere.. are there other files i should check besided /etc/networking/interfaces ?
[10:48] <Warbo> joachim: It's that which is breaking sudo. Have you tried /etc/hosts?
[10:48] <davidwinter> hi all. is there a way I can watch WMV9 files?
[10:48] <Warbo> Finished :)
[10:48] <Alth> Ok, what's the quickest way to try to network my main box with my laptop? Main box is running windows. My backup server also is running windows, but worked straight off.
[10:48] <visik7> anyone have recently try dbootstrap a sid from breezy ?
[10:48] <hyperstream> hey is there a .rar gui or a way to make archive roller i think it is support the format?
[10:48] <davidwinter> I've tried watching them in totem, vlc and mplayer
[10:49] <Warbo> davidwinter: Are they encrypted?
[10:49] <DBO> !tell davidwinter about restricted
[10:49] <Warbo> hyperstream: unrar package
[10:49] <hyperstream> joachim,  router? dhcp?
[10:49] <hyperstream> Warbo, that has a gui interface?
[10:49] <selinium> davidwinter, Have you installed the w32codecs?
[10:50] <hyperstream> !avi
[10:50] <ubotu> from memory, avi is Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:50] <Warbo> hyperstream: File Roller uses it if it is installed
[10:50] <davidwinter> Warbo: do you mean DRM encrypted? if so, no
[10:50] <joachim> hyperstream: trying to set up static.. dunno exactly what's suppose to be in /etc/hosts.. but it look alright..
[10:50] <hyperstream> oo cool thanks
[10:50] <davidwinter> selinium: no - hadn't heard of those
[10:50] <davidwinter> looking into them now
[10:50] <hyperstream> davidwinter,: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats go here and do everything cept real player if you dont wish to use real player
[10:51] <hyperstream> not just the w32 codecs the lot :P
[10:51] <Warbo> I don't much like that ubotu message, sounds like AVI is hopeless on Linux
[10:51] <davidwinter> thanks hyperstream
[10:51] <selinium> davidwinter, :)
[10:51] <hyperstream> davidwinter, no worries i had the same issue for a while
[10:54] <joachim> anyone have a suggestion to why i can't get asministrator mode in KDE on ubuntu? i have the admin group.. it just says "Su returned with an error"
[10:54] <Warbo> joachim: You need your networking to work if Linux is going to talk to itself (like asking for super user)
[10:55] <IceTox> How do I update my kernel?
[10:55] <joachim> argh.. that's what i'm trying to do.. i know how to fix it with X but i have some trouble without it..
[10:55] <hyperstream> lol
[10:55] <teletubbie> my columecontrol is not showing up in the panel
[10:55] <teletubbie> :\
[10:55] <IceTox> !tell IceTox about kernel update
[10:55] <teletubbie> Volume*
[10:55] <hyperstream> you need super user to setup networking
[10:55] <Warbo> IceTox: Use Synaptic (for all upgrades)
[10:56] <IceTox> ok then Warbo
[10:56] <IceTox> :(
[10:56] <hyperstream> ok so pm me what you have in your interfaces file
[10:56] <Warbo> hyperstream: But you don't need networking for single user mode
[10:56] <ice_1963> can i get Dapper Drake ?
[10:56] <hyperstream> true. you dont.
[10:56] <hyperstream> but i gather he wants to setup is networking yes ?
[10:56] <davidwinter> has anyone installed Xgl/Compiz on Dapper? any who have - have you had things not 'render' correctly? and look a bit fuzzy
[10:56] <Warbo> ice_1963: Yes, either upgrade breezy or install it fresh
[10:56] <teletubbie> !volume
[10:56] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, teletubbie
[10:57] <hyperstream> davidwinter, such as ?
[10:57] <cens0red> hi. I just re installed ubuntu breezy ... and I saved my .mozilla-thunderbird/ dir in a tar. Any tips for importing settings, mail, addressbook from it?
[10:57] <teletubbie> !volumecontrol
[10:57] <ubotu> teletubbie: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:57] <Warbo> davidwinter: I found it smoother than normal (except xine playback, which is hopeless)
[10:57] <davidwinter> hyperstream: well, the top menu bar, for example, the Places button wasn't visible
[10:57] <davidwinter> it had some funky colours all over it
[10:58] <CarNagE> Which window manager could you recommend for use on my laptop (350 MHz and only 128 MB of RAM)?
[10:58] <davidwinter> and the same with firefox
[10:58] <davidwinter> you could make out the main window, but within, only a few buttons were visible
[10:58] <Warbo> CarNagE: Fluxbox, WindowMaker, E16
[10:58] <hyperstream> davidwinter, did you have a theme before installing xgl compiz for gnome ?
[10:58] <davidwinter> the rest had some really weird effects all over it
[10:58] <davidwinter> only the default one for Dapper
[10:58] <hyperstream> hmm
[10:58] <CarNagE> Warbo: Thanks, will try em.
[10:58] <hyperstream> #ubuntu-xgl
[10:59] <ahmeni> CarNagE: Do you like your mouse?  If you hate it, ion3 is a godsend and lightweight
[10:59] <hyperstream> is the channel
[10:59] <davidwinter> cool - thanks hyperstream
[10:59] <CarNagE> ahmeni: Yes, I like my mouse :)
[10:59] <hyperstream> and #ubuntu+1 for dapper issues. :)
[10:59] <hyperstream> no worries
[10:59] <Warbo> CarNagE: Don't confuse E16 with E17! (E17 will not run well on such a system)
[11:00] <tombs> hi all
[11:00] <Warbo> tombs: Hi
[11:00] <teletubbie> how do I specify how many kb of ram my videocard uses?
[11:01] <bifodus> hi
[11:01] <Warbo> bifodus: hi
[11:01] <bifodus> does anyone know how i could speed up the "Configuring network interfaces" portion of the ubuntu startup?
[11:01] <Warbo> bifodus: It is checking for any reply to DHCP. If you know you don't use DHCP then you don't need it
[11:01] <bliss1_> ompaul@ i have applied
[11:02] <Warbo> bifodus: I don't know how to turn it off though :(
[11:02] <bifodus> yeah...i'm using DHCP, though...it just seems unusually long
[11:02] <bifodus> when it finishes I get an 'ok' at least
[11:02] <ompaul> bliss1_, ack
[11:03] <Warbo> bifodus: I usually get an ip within two bounces of the Networking progressbar
[11:04] <ice_1963> were can i DL Dapper Drake from?
[11:04] <bifodus> I just tested that by deactivating eth0 and then reactivating it in Connection Properties, and doing that only takes a few seconds
[11:05] <bifodus> could it have anything to do with wifi?
[11:05] <bifodus> (forgot to mention i'm on a laptop)
[11:05] <Warbo> ice_1963: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight6
[11:05] <Warbo> bifodus: Maybe it tries every network device. One replies straight away but it has to wait for the other (wired and wireless)
[11:06] <Alth> Quick question everyone...what's the quickest way to find out my ip in the console? EG windows ipconfig.
[11:06] <bifodus> yeah, i think you're probably right, Warbo
[11:06] <Warbo> Alth: ifconfig
[11:06] <fyrestrtr> Alth: ifconfig eth0
[11:06] <bifodus> reactivating wlan0 just fails
[11:06] <Alth> Thanks :)
[11:07] <bifodus> well, doesn't fail, but takes forever
[11:07] <bifodus> thanks for the idea Warbo..i'll try deactivating wifi and rebooting
[11:07] <bliss1_> ompaul; nicks will not know what hit them
[11:07] <Alth> Hmm, I can ping the Linux box from the windows, but can't get them to network :\
[11:08] <Warbo> Alth: Windows doesn't play nice with standard TCP/IP. You need Samba
[11:08] <IceTox> Warbo, when i've installed the new *.11 kernel, I just need a reboot and it's done?
 Alth: Windows doesn't play nice with standard TCP/IP. You need Samba <-- Noob talk please :P
[11:08] <linnuxxy> i have a virgin ubuntu 5.04 installation, how to upgrate firefox to 1.5.x?
[11:08] <hyperstream> !samba
[11:08] <ubotu> from memory, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[11:08] <Warbo> IceTox: You don't really need to reboot unless you need access to the new kernel, but yes a reboot will let you access the new kernel (it will have a new option in GRUB)
[11:09] <linnuxxy> i've tryed apt-get upgrade firefox
[11:09] <IceTox> linnuxxy, I believe "sudo apt-get install firefox" would solve that problem. This would update it to the newest version :-)
[11:09] <FlannelKing> linnuxxy: any reason youre still on 5.04?
[11:10] <Warbo> IceTox: Firefox 1.5 isn't in any stable at the moment, and 5.04 is a long way off. he needs a different repository or something
[11:10] <linnuxxy> i cant download the new version, my net is sucks
[11:10] <bifodus> that was much faster
[11:10] <IceTox> Warbo, It is in the debian sources. it's not in ubuntu's?
[11:11] <bliss1_> if i run the qemu and kqemu its it correct to think the bigger the swap partition the more virtual memory ?
[11:11] <FlannelKing> IceTox: 1.5 is in dapper, not Breezy, and definately not Hoary
[11:11] <KenSentMe> hi, i have a problem with ekiga on ubuntu, anyone uses this program?
[11:11] <agliv5> Greetings all :)  Does anyone know of a good FAQs site for running off a LiveCD?  Haven't been able to find what I'm looking for yet...
[11:12] <Warbo> IceTox: I assume it is in Sid (unstable) and probably Etch (testing), but that is dodgy to use on Ubuntu. It is in Dapper though. Maybe a full upgrade to breezy, then a full upgrade to dapper will do (but on slow internet would be annoying for 1 app)
[11:12] <linnuxxy> IceToxi got the fellowing error "E: Couldn't find package firefox"
[11:12] <linnuxxy> IceTox: i got the fellowing error "E: Couldn't find package firefox"
[11:12] <Warbo> linnuxxy: It is probably mozilla-firefox, but it won't be 1.5 anyway
[11:12] <FlannelKing> linnuxxy: once june1 rolls around, you'll definately want to be asking for a pressed CD ;)
[11:12] <IceTox> well, linnuxxy you talk to FlannelKing or Warbo.. it seems I'm really not updated on this breezy ubuntu thingie :-)
[11:13] <Warbo> IceTox: Try using Synaptic. That will update your Breezy :)
[11:13] <agliv5> Anyone?  FAQs?   LiveCD?
[11:13] <bliss1__> hi
[11:13] <agliv5> Greetings bliss1_
[11:14] <agliv5> :)
[11:14] <burns> hi
[11:14] <Warbo> agliv5: Sorry. KNOPPIX is a VERY popular LiveCD, so maybe you would find more on that? Doesn't contain same stuff as Ubuntu, but some principles apply (read only, etc)
[11:14] <bliss1__> agliv5: hi twice
[11:15] <IceTox> I'm used to apt-get Warbo.. I'm lazy :-)
[11:15] <bobyfixer> will 6.06 be realeased as an expresso livecd ?
[11:15] <FlannelKing> expresso?
[11:15] <Alth> ?
[11:15] <ompaul> agliv5, what do you want to know about, data persistance so you can run it with a stick?
[11:15] <_nirmal> kanotix very clever
[11:15] <agliv5> Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find any FAQs specific to running a liveCD...  I try looking for knoppix
[11:15] <Warbo> IceTox: Ermm... First time I've heard command line reffered to as the lazy option
[11:16] <hyperstream> how do i setup a samba share so that when a windows box accesses the share it doesnt require a username and pass(as if it was a windows share)
[11:16] <agliv5> ompaul I want to mount my harddrives, but don't know how...
[11:16] <bliss1__> what virtual sotware would anyone recommend to run on a labtop , vmware, eqmu, xen?
[11:17] <FlannelKing> bobyfixer: yes, espresso will be available for dapper
[11:17] <IceTox> Warbo, well, it's the way i learned it using debian :-)
[11:17] <_nirmal> you require more RAM for running  virtual software
[11:17] <ice_1963> i like command line i use irssi :-)
[11:17] <Warbo> bliss1__: XEN isn't in Ubuntu, you'd have to set it up yourself (hard). VMWare may be a bit restrictive if you don't pay, QEmu is not the fastest, but quite good (get KQemu)
[11:18] <ompaul> agliv5, what is on them windows? (you do realise that writing to ntfs from Linux is very dangerous to the ntfs, you can thank MS for keeping the standard closed)
[11:18] <munti78> When typing "crontab -e" in Terminal it opens in nano, how can I open it in VIM?
[11:18] <Warbo> ompaul: I think writing to NTFS is safe, but unreliable (if it doesn't work then the drive isn't changed)
[11:18] <hyperstream> ompaul,  using the ntfs.sys and loading it thru winex its now possible i was reading somewhere
[11:19] <[Wiebel] > Hi
[11:19] <bliss1__> Warbo: hard as in source?
[11:19] <agliv5> ompaul I had Ubuntu installed and messed it up somehow, so now I want to save my personal data and reinstall
[11:19] <Warbo> hyperstream: I wouldn't trust WINE with system functions
[11:19] <[Wiebel] > is there an official howto to get xinerama working in ubuntu?
[11:19] <hyperstream> [Wiebel] ,  i would :)
[11:19] <ompaul> agliv5, ahh that is a lot easier join me in #agliv12345
[11:19] <munti78> Anyone?
[11:19] <Warbo> bliss1__: It has to be built into the kernel and stuff
[11:19] <[Wiebel] > hyperstream: you would what? :P
[11:19] <agliv5> Warbo NTFS is standardly mounted as read-only
[11:19] <cafuego> [Wiebel] : plug 'xunerama' into the wiki and see what tutns up.
[11:19] <Warbo> munti78: Set your Editor variable I think
[11:19] <hyperstream> eek that was directed at Warbo  :)
[11:19] <cafuego> but minus the typo3s
[11:20] <[Wiebel] > <nitwit mode> what wiki</nitwit mode>
[11:20] <FlannelKing> [Wiebel] : wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:20] <bliss1__> Warbo: the bigger the swap partition the more virtual memory is this true?
[11:20] <Warbo> agliv5: I know it is read only, but FUSE has some stuff on the go
[11:20] <FlannelKing> [Wiebel] : also check the forums (ubuntuforums.org)
[11:21] <cafuego> [Wiebel] : Tsssk...
[11:21] <cafuego> [Wiebel] : incidentally, #ubuntu-nl
[11:21] <[Wiebel] > :)
[11:21] <Warbo> bliss1__: I would assume so. I know for Qemu you have to unmount /dev/shm and remount it bigger to use more RAM in Qemu
[11:21] <ompaul> agliv5, join me in channel >> #agliv12345 << just click on it in xchat
[11:22] <agliv5> Warbo I do have some stuff on NTFS but would prefer burning to DVD-RW then formating the drives and then reinstating the data from the DVDs
[11:22] <munti78> Warbo: Where do I do that?
[11:22] <munti78> When typing "crontab -e" in Terminal it opens in nano, how can I open it in VIM?
[11:22] <IceTox> brb.. reboot of network...
[11:22] <Warbo> agliv5: That's what I would recommend. I was just trying to "big up the NTFS massif"
[11:23] <bliss1__> Warbo: i have been told you can run windows in qemu and the acclelorator kqemu does this apply to windows server?
[11:24] <munti78> Found it: export EDITOR vim
[11:24] <_tyler> how do i compress something for .aiz
[11:24] <Warbo> munti78: not sure sorry. Maybe getting rid of nano package?
[11:25] <Warbo> bliss1__: I would assume so. I have run Win 98 incredibly well (as in, it ran like on a PC, not that Win 98 is good :)) but I could never get Win XP to load, probably not powerful enough
[11:25] <Warbo> bliss1__: The more powerful your system the more powerful you can emulate
[11:26] <bliss1_> Warbo; iyou mean RAM or cpu power
[11:26] <xiaoyu> where is gnome's menu config file
[11:27] <Warbo> bliss1_: I think RAM more than CPU, as when I emulate things they report my actual CPU speed, but far less RAM than I have
[11:27] <mcnutcase> Is anyone else having trouble with Firefox as a result of the latest update?
[11:27] <Warbo> mcnutcase: Well I've only opened it once so far, but no
[11:28] <mcnutcase> Oh great, that means it's me personally it hates.
[11:28] <munti78> How do I find the location (full path) to php-cli?
[11:28] <Cicero_> munti78, locate php
[11:28] <teletubbie> finally got mixing working :)
[11:28] <bliss1_> Warbo what I have done thus far is followed a howto but I use 0.8.0  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66694
[11:29] <Warbo> AAA! Firefox doesn't load links which open it. just gives me a home page
[11:29] <davro> munti78: or, whereis php
[11:30] <cage> could anyone help me with a ndiswrapper problem ? i just made "make install" work but get following error
[11:30] <cage> Can't find kernel build files in /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build;
[11:30] <cage>   give the path to kernel build directory with
[11:30] <cage>   KBUILD=<path> argument to make
[11:30] <munti78> davro: Thanks, worked great
[11:31] <Warbo> bliss1_: That guide seems fine. That's how I built Qemu. The only problem is I can't get Kqemu to load automatically. I'll see what this guide says
[11:32] <bliss1_> Warbo: frogzoo has a script
[11:32] <Alth> Ok, so, to whoever told me I needed Samba for my windows box...one windows box is working fine. The other isn't. :\
[11:32] <bliss1_> gnomefreak;  hi,you are very welcome
[11:33] <lockhead> what should i use to watch .wmv and .mov in buntu?
[11:33] <_tyler> I need .aiz plugins to use on this karabra thing... how can i compress something like that?
[11:33] <Warbo> bliss1_: That networking is quite thorough. I always used the -user-net (now replaced with -net user)
[11:34] <lockhead> currently using vlc, wich with .wmv gives no picture, and with .mov no sound
[11:34] <mcnutcase> Gah. Even a complete removal hasn't fixed it, and everyone else is saying "WFM". This is not happymaking.
[11:34] <Warbo> lockhead: Usually whatever player you prefer. try getting w32codecs
[11:34] <Warbo> mcnutcase: Is this Firefox?
[11:35] <lockhead> ok, thanks
[11:35] <mcnutcase> Warbo: the package is Mozilla-Firefox. The new version is conflictiong with the "FireFox" package...
[11:35] <davro> just watched a .wmv using xine worked fine, not sure about .mov
[11:36] <Warbo> mcnutcase: I was just going to ask a Firefoxy question. When I click on a link in GAIM (which I'm in now) it opens Firefox, but just displays home page. Also the same happens when I type into deskbar-applet
[11:36] <mcnutcase> Warbo: I'd help, but right now Firefox is completely up the spout for me.
[11:36] <Warbo> !tell lockhead about restrictedformats
[11:37] <kgoetz> does ubotu not reply to msg atm? hes igoring me :S
[11:37] <Warbo> lockhead: Did that work?
[11:37] <gnomefreak> bliss1_: good morning
[11:37] <kgoetz> !tell kgoetz about printing
[11:37] <gnomefreak> !botsnack
[11:37] <ubotu> :)
[11:37] <kgoetz> hi gnomefreak
[11:37] <gnomefreak> hi kgoetz
[11:37] <Warbo> mcnutcase: This isn't a problem with the latest update, it's been happening before
[11:37] <gnomefreak> kgoetz: ubotuis fine
[11:37] <kgoetz> :)
[11:37] <kgoetz> hm.
[11:38] <kgoetz> hm. getting replies now.
[11:38] <kgoetz> i probably identified during that tiem :)
[11:38] <kgoetz> *time
[11:38] <mcnutcase> Warbo: any suggestions on how to get it working again? Right now, firefox won't even start...
[11:38] <lockhead> Warbo, working on it
[11:39] <Warbo> mcnutcase: Errrrrr...... Epiphany?
[11:39] <Warbo> lockhead: I actually meant did you get the link :)
[11:39] <cage> if anyone can help with a compile problem, i'm trying to compile ndiswrapper (don't want to flood this chan all the time) PM plz
[11:39] <Warbo> cage: www.pastebin.com
[11:39] <lockhead> yes i did, checking it out now
[11:39] <Hobbsee> cage: what's the error you get?  pastebin it
[11:39] <vinboy> how do I restart my X server without logging out??
[11:39] <Warbo> vinboy: You can't
[11:40] <Warbo> vinboy: that is the definition of restarting the X server
[11:40] <vinboy> Warbo: ok.. thx
[11:40] <agliv5> cage what problem are you having?
[11:40] <mcnutcase> Warbo: not quite what I asked for, but I'll give it a prod...
[11:40] <cage> make -C driver install
[11:40] <cage> make[1] : Entering directory `/home/cage/ndiswrapper-1.14/driver'
[11:40] <cage> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build SUBDIRS=/home/cage/ndiswrapper-1.14/driver \
[11:40] <cage>         DRIVER_VERSION=1.14
[11:40] <cage> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found
[11:40] <cage> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 12: gcc-3.4: command not found
[11:40] <cage> make[2] : gcc-3.4: Command not found
[11:40] <kgoetz> ffs
[11:40] <cage> make[2] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386'
[11:40] <fyrestrtr> has anyone tried to compile wine from source?
[11:40] <cage>   LD      /home/cage/ndiswrapper-1.14/driver/built-in.o
[11:40] <cage>   CC [M]   /home/cage/ndiswrapper-1.14/driver/hal.o
[11:40] <cage> /bin/sh: gcc-3.4: command not found
[11:41] <cage> make[3] : *** [/home/cage/ndiswrapper-1.14/driver/hal.o]  Error 127
[11:41] <Warbo> vinboy: If you want to keep a (non graphical) program running then you may be able to make it a daemon (if it has that option)
[11:41] <fyrestrtr> wtf
[11:41] <cage> make[2] : *** [_module_/home/cage/ndiswrapper-1.14/driver]  Error 2
[11:41] <cage> make[2] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386'
[11:41] <_tyler> I need .aiz plugins to use on this karabra thing... how can i compress something like that?
[11:41] <cage> make[1] : *** [default]  Error 2
[11:41] <cafuego> !ops
[11:41] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[11:41] <cage> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/cage/ndiswrapper-1.14/driver'
[11:41] <cage> make: *** [install]  Error 2
[11:41] <Warbo> coge: www.pastebin.com just post us the URL
[11:41] <cage> oeps
[11:41] <Alth> Be right back. Rebooting.
[11:41] <cafuego> cage: Stop pasting
[11:41] <fyrestrtr> stop ffs
[11:41] <Warbo> cage: www.pastebin.com, just post us the URL
[11:41] <cafuego> When he comes back, can you tell him he doesn't need to compile ndsiwrapper?
[11:42] <_tyler> I need .aiz plugins to use on this karabra thing... how can i compress something like that?
[11:42] <fyrestrtr> guys, has anyone tried to compile wine? I am running into a gcc error -- /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext followed by collect2: ld returned 1 exit status and then winegcc: gcc failed.
[11:42] <Warbo> fyrestrtr: I comiled it from source ages ago. Took longer than Xorg and Linux put together
[11:42] <fyrestrtr> Warbo: what version of gcc did you use?
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> maybe its choking because my gcc version is 4.0
[11:43] <Warbo> fyrestrtr: I think I was on gcc-3.2 or something back then (on Fedora 1 I think)
[11:43] <fyrestrtr> maybe I'll try it with an older gcc version
[11:43] <Warbo> tyler: What is this aiz extension?
[11:43] <alon> can i run the chessmaster software with wine?
[11:44] <fyrestrtr> alon: appdb.winehq.org -- search there
[11:44] <Warbo> alon: I don't know, why don't you have a go and tell WINE developers if it works
[11:45] <AlphaFaction> Hi guys, Ive just upgraded from a Geforce 4mx440 to a Geforce 6600GT and now gnome is not working as it should, any ideas?
[11:45] <fyrestrtr> what is the enviornment variable to change the gcc version?
[11:45] <Hobbsee> cage:  DO NOT PASTE IN HERE!  www.pastebin.com  you shouldnt need to compile ndiswrapper, but if you do, follow wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto and follow *all* of the steps.
[11:45] <fyrestrtr> temporarily change it :)
[11:45] <kgoetz> fyrestrtr, tryed 'sudo apt-get build-dep wine'?
[11:45] <Warbo> AlphaFaction: Is it logging in at least?
[11:45] <kgoetz> CC and GCC iirc
[11:45] <bliss1_> Warbo: -user-net (now replaced with -net user) is this in the howto?
[11:45] <fyrestrtr> kgoetz: hrmm, not I did the non-ubuntu thing and manually installed deps
[11:46] <Warbo> fyrestrtr: I always link /usr/bin/gcc to /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 anyway
[11:46] <kgoetz> ok.
[11:46] <AlphaFaction> Warbo: yeah it is, it gets to the desktop then hangs (well the cusor moves but the kb dies and i cant click on any icons)
[11:46] <fyrestrtr> kgoetz: because I need a version of wine that is not in the repos
[11:46] <fyrestrtr> AlphaFaction: first place to check -- Xorg.0.log
[11:46] <Warbo> bliss1_: It is not in that howto, because their method is better (but I was on my own when finding this out and -user-net was the easiest to set up, but no where near the best)
[11:47] <ahmeni> What package is startx in?
[11:47] <AlphaFaction> fyrestrtr: thanks mate
[11:47] <Warbo> AlphaFaction: I guess you're on nvidia driver (no point upgrading graphics card otherwise) Have you tried nv one? Does it have any problems?
[11:48] <AlphaFaction> Warbo: not yet, ill try that soon i think
[11:48] <bliss1_> Warbo; i have script somewhere but how to use it on bootup just a sec let me look
[11:48] <Warbo> AlphaFaction: It should work *but obviously you won't get your 3D stuff)
[11:49] <Warbo> AlphaFaction: Are you in Dapper by any chance? Lots of problems today
[11:49] <monstrous> someone knows if the beta-download of dapper drake is released yet?
[11:49] <Hobbsee> monstrous: not yet
[11:49] <monstrous> would it be placed here http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/ ?
[11:49] <monstrous> or somewhere else?
[11:49] <AlphaFaction> Warbo: nah im not
[11:50] <Hobbsee> monstrous: cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/somethingorother
[11:50] <Alth> My two damn computers can ping each other but won't network :(
[11:50] <bliss1_> Warbo: i will put it in a pastbin see if it works for you
[11:50] <budak^kampung> hi
[11:50] <fyrestrtr> Warbo: how do I (temporarily) enable the use of gcc-3.4? export GCC='/usr/bin/gcc-3.4' ?
[11:50] <Warbo> AlphaFaction: OK (they just upgraded to latest driver, few different directories needed 'cos of Xorg 7)
[11:50] <budak^kampung> anyone can help me?
[11:50] <monstrous> thx :)
[11:50] <budak^kampung> i want to know how to using wine
[11:50] <visik7> anyone is able to use debootstrp ?
[11:51] <AlphaFaction> Warbo: thanks heaps for all the help
[11:51] <budak^kampung> i have install wine
[11:51] <Warbo> fyrestrtr: Install the gcc-3.4 package and point the /usr/bin/gcc symbolic link to it (sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc)
[11:51] <budak^kampung> but i don't know how to install appllication like photoshop using wine
[11:52] <AlphaFaction> Warbo: im looking in the xorg log and ive got a few lines like this:" Warning: font renderer for ".pmf" already registered at priority 0"
[11:52] <Trentonzero> budak^kampung : run the install program in the terminal with "wine setup.exe"
[11:52] <Warbo> budak^kampung: I doubt PhotoShop will work ,but it might. You should be able to double click the ".exe" files, but it is better to use a terminal to see what's going on. Go in a terminal (in Accessories) and type "wine /full/path/to/Adobe/Photoshop/Installer.exe"
[11:52] <Trentonzero> ?
[11:53] <fyrestrtr> wheee ... look at all the ./configure output go by so fast.
[11:53] <Warbo> AlphaFaction: I think those are fine (I get stuff like that all the time)
[11:53] <fyrestrtr> ./me pets his 1 GB RAM
[11:54] <AlphaFaction> Warbo: how about "Symbol __glXgetActiveScreen from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved!"
[11:54] <Warbo> Does anyone know how to tell the kernel about WINE? In Fedora you can run ./setup.exe and it gets redirected to WINE (like Linux can now do with Java and stuff)
[11:54] <bliss1_> Warbo here it is
[11:55] <Warbo> AlphaFaction: That seems a little more serious. Are you using Ubuntu's package of the driver or the one from nvidia.com?
[11:55] <Warbo> bliss1_: Er. No link?
[11:55] <Hmmmm> im trying to configure an HP laserjet 8000 with my kubuntu installation. no joi. anyone been there done that?
[11:55] <AlphaFaction> Warbo: Im runing ubuntus package
[11:55] <fyrestrtr> Warbo: any clue what is this? /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext ??
[11:55] <cage> http://pastebin.com/670986   sorry about the flood before
[11:56] <Warbo> AlphaFaction: Should be fine then. Don't understand the problem
[11:57] <budak^kampung> i want to install photoshop from cd
[11:57] <budak^kampung> . i have type wine /cdrom0/Adobe_Photoshop_v.6.0_Final_Retail/Setup.exe
[11:57] <budak^kampung> , but 'there is no such file or directory
[11:57] <Warbo> fyrestrtr: From the man page it is the "GNU linker", but I have no idea about programming, sorry :(
[11:57] <bliss1_> Warbo; http://pastebin.ca/50109 not sure how to put inplace so it happens on boot
[11:57] <fyrestrtr> Warbo: ah I think I got it.
[11:58] <budak^kampung> anybody knows?
[11:58] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Make sure you type it properly. If you type "ls /" you can see what is in / (remember, things are case sensitive) then "ls/cdrom0" will show you what is in there, if it exists. You may be better off with /media/cdrom though
[11:58] <Warbo> bliss1_: /etc/init.d make a file in there then run update-rc.d
[12:00] <Warbo> bliss1_: Thanks, I'll try it later
[12:00] <Trentonzero> budak^kampung, are the _ in the directory blank spaces are actual underscores
[12:00] <Trentonzero> ?
[12:00] <fyrestrtr> Warbo: yeah, I was missing a developer library
[12:00] <budak^kampung> no
[12:01] <bliss1_> Warbo: so name the file kqemu put it in /etc/init.d then update-rc.d  kqemu ?does the script look ok?
[12:01] <davro> Im looking to buy a 20" LaCie 130702 TFT monitor just wondered if anyone is using a LaCie monitor with success
[12:01] <Trentonzero> the directory is "Adobe Photoshop" or "Adobe_Photoshop"?
[12:01] <fyrestrtr> budak^kampung: is your cdrom mounted?
[12:02] <budak^kampung> i don't know because i'm quite beginner
[12:02] <Warbo> bliss1_: Yes it looks fine (too complex for me to write on my own, but I can follow it)
[12:02] <budak^kampung> Trentonzero,there is no '_' in the cd directory
[12:02] <fyrestrtr> davro: monitors aren't a big problem, just get the refresh rates right and they pretty much work.
[12:03] <budak^kampung> the directory name is Adobe Photoshop V.6.0 Final Retail
[12:03] <Trentonzero> take out the _
[12:03] <bliss1_> Warbo: do you have to make the files an exe as in  chmod +x kqemu.sh
[12:03] <Warbo> budak^kampung: OK, I was assuming the directory would be easy to type. A better way would be this: type "cd /"
[12:03] <fyrestrtr> budak^kampung: wine "/cdrom0/Adobe Photoshop V.6.0 Final Retail/Setup.exe"
[12:03] <Warbo> bliss1_: I think so
[12:03] <Trentonzero> type :  wine " Adobe Photoshop V.6.0 Final Retail/setup.exe"
[12:04] <Trentonzero> or just go to the directory with cd ...thats good too
[12:04] <bliss1_> Warbo: it would be good to know for sure
[12:04] <budak^kampung> include " mark?
[12:04] <Trentonzero> yes, use the quote marks
[12:04] <fyrestrtr> budak^kampung: yes
[12:04] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Then type "cd thenextfolder" then "cd thenextfolder" until you are there. Finally just type "wine setup.exe"
[12:04] <davro> Fair enough, have been quite impressed with the LaCie range just wondered, suppose the driver support is at the graphic card level, slaps self across face.
[12:05] <fyrestrtr> davro: heh :) it happens.
[12:05] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Do you have the Universe packages enabled?
[12:05] <budak^kampung> universe package?
[12:05] <budak^kampung> how can i know?
[12:05] <budak^kampung> i'm sorry if my english broken
[12:05] <budak^kampung> hehehe
[12:06] <Trentonzero> its ok budak, you are coming across fine
[12:06] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Universe is a load of extra software for Ubuntu. There is a package called "nautilus-open-terminal" which will save you all of the typing
[12:07] <lapp> www.24freesex.com
[12:07] <davro> Not to worry most English people speak using broken english slang anyway.
[12:07] <budak^kampung> oo,how can i get the package?
[12:07] <budak^kampung> i'm malaysian
[12:07] <budak^kampung> anyone from malaysia?
[12:07] <cafuego> !universe
[12:07] <budak^kampung> :)
[12:07] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Go into System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager
[12:07] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:07] <budak^kampung> ok warbo.thene
[12:08] <budak^kampung> ok warbo.then
[12:08] <teletubbie> any know how to set a background for nautilus?
[12:08] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Inside there there is a menu Settings then Repositories
[12:08] <cafuego> note, please don't ask for help on how to install illegal copies of photoshop.
[12:08] <budak^kampung> ok,i got it warbo
[12:08] <budak^kampung> next?
[12:08] <Warbo> teletubbie: Desktop, right click on it. Windows, at the bottom of the Edit list (drag and drop)
[12:09] <davro> budak^kampung: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list read the comments and uncomment the relevent line.
[12:09] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Click Add (hang on while I catch up with you)
[12:09] <budak^kampung> ok
[12:09] <budak^kampung> next warbo
[12:09] <noiesmo> when I try to apt-get install nvidia-glx i'm am incountering a dpkg-divert from when I had ati card but i am unable to remove diversion is there a way to force install or modify the diversions file in /var/lib/dpkg without getting unexpected EOF
[12:09] <Warbo> budak^kampung: OK, it should say something to do with Ubuntu in a drop down box and then some boxes with ticks
[12:10] <budak^kampung> yes
[12:10] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Tick the boxes "Universe" and "Multiverse"
[12:10] <bliss1_> Warbo: did you find out exe or not
[12:10] <budak^kampung> ok
[12:10] <Alth> Hey, my windows box just mounted itself! =o
[12:10] <Warbo> bliss1_: Not yet sorry
[12:10] <budak^kampung> there is 4 boxes
[12:10] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Now you should have all of the boxes ticked.
[12:10] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Click OK
[12:11] <graypp> www.24freesex.com
[12:11] <budak^kampung> ok,
[12:11] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Then click OK again and you will get a message, say Yes
[12:11] <budak^kampung> gotcha!
[12:11] <femi> hey i downloaded xine to play mp3s but its not playing what can i do?
[12:11] <bliss1_> ompaul; tells bliss1_ to behave
[12:12] <budak^kampung> downloading progress
[12:12] <Warbo> budak^kampung: It should have downloaded some stuff. Now "Search" and put in "nautilus-open-terminal"
[12:12] <budak^kampung> The following problems were found on your system:
[12:12] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Wait till it finishes :)
[12:12] <budak^kampung> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages)
[12:12] <budak^kampung> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://wine.sourceforge.net binary/ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/wine.sourceforge.net_apt_binary_Packages)
[12:12] <fyrestrtr> !tell femi about RestrictedFormats
[12:12] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Oh, that's fine (you have them on already!)
[12:12] <budak^kampung> oo
[12:13] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Do the search for "nautilus-open-terminal"
[12:13] <budak^kampung> then,what must i do warbo
[12:13] <femi> what is it about restricted formats?
[12:13] <budak^kampung> where i can search nautilus open terminal?
[12:13] <fyrestrtr> femi: read it, to find out how to enable mp3 playback
[12:13] <femi> hi fyrestrtr
[12:13] <davro> mp3 is a restricted format
[12:13] <Warbo> budak^kampung: You should have 1 package come up in the search. Click the white box next to it and select "Mark for installation"
[12:13] <budak^kampung> is it inside synaptic package
[12:13] <Warbo> budak^kampung: In Synaptic there is a Search button at the top
[12:14] <budak^kampung> ok
[12:14] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Make sure to put the - in between the words
[12:14] <budak^kampung> got it
[12:14] <budak^kampung> thick the box?
[12:14] <noiesmo> anyone help with dpkg-divert problem
[12:14] <peopleee> www.erotica-toon.com
[12:15] <femi> pls does it mean ubuntu linux does not play mp3s?
[12:15] <Warbo> budak^kampung: So you have marked it (by clicking the white square and selecting mark for installation) then click Apply at the top
[12:15] <budak^kampung> ok,clear
[12:15] <Warbo> femi: Ubuntu will play MP3s, but not by default. You have to tell it to
[12:15] <newbie33> how to install glade
[12:15] <Warbo> budak^kampung: After clicking Apply you will get more downloading stuff. Wait for it to say complete
[12:15] <femi> how do i?
[12:16] <newbie33> when I m trying to do it with synaptic, my x goes down..
[12:16] <femi> am sorry am very new to ubuntu
[12:16] <budak^kampung> warbo:ok complete
[12:16] <Warbo> femi: Ask someone to walk you through anabling Universe
[12:16] <femi> can you, please?
[12:16] <Warbo> budak^kampung: OK, now in the file manager go into the CD and to where the installer is
[12:17] <Warbo> femi: In the middle of something at the mo. Only take a sec
[12:17] <budak^kampung> warbo:file manager?
[12:17] <alon> what is the problem if i get "internal failure - error number: 0x80040707" when i try to install chessmaster using yum?
[12:17] <alon> *using wine
[12:17] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Go in Places Computer and go into your CD all of the way to the Photoshop installer
[12:17] <davro> to enable the universe/multiverse, sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list read the comments and uncomment the relevent lines in this configuration file.
[12:18] <budak^kampung> warbo:ok,thene
[12:18] <budak^kampung> warbo:ok,then?
[12:18] <alon> what is the problem if i get "internal failure - error number: 0x80040707" when i try to install chessmaster using wine?
[12:18] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Now when you right click in an empty part of that window (basically, not on a file) then there will be an option "Open In Terminal" Is that there?
[12:18] <chetan> hi all. i have a external harddrive and i want to access one of the folders in there. but ubuntu says that i dont have permission to modify it. can someone please help?
[12:19] <Trentonzero> chetan, do it as root?  (not sure if this is best way)
[12:19] <Warbo> chetan: Be with you in a minute
[12:20] <chetan> thanks
[12:20] <budak^kampung> warbo:right click on setup.exe file?
[12:20] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Forget that, we need to do one more thing first
[12:20] <Warbo> budak^kampung: In a terminal type "killall nautilus" without the quotes
[12:20] <budak^kampung> warbo:ok
[12:20] <alon> what is the problem if i get "internal failure - error number: 0x80040707" when i try to install chessmaster using wine?
[12:21] <budak^kampung> i got problem with terminal,warbo
[12:21] <Alth> Ok, question.
[12:21] <budak^kampung> blank screen
[12:21] <Warbo> budak^kampung: You will lose your icons for a sec, then get a home folder window. Close it and go back to where you were on the CD (next to setup.exe)
[12:21] <Alth> I apt-get'd synergy. And now I can't run the damn thing. I don't just type 'synergy'?
[12:21] <Alth> Because that works for everything else :P
[12:22] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Is it back yet? (We had to restart it when we added the new feature)
[12:22] <haloo> http://www.sexoasis.com/
[12:22] <budak^kampung> warbo:my terminal is not responding
[12:22] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Hmmm. Try opening another one
[12:23] <budak^kampung> warbo:can you wait for me to restart my pc
[12:23] <Warbo> budak^kampung: typing "killall gnome-terminal" kill close your terminals
[12:23] <Warbo> budak^kampung: You shouldn't really have to, but you can
[12:23] <newbie33> is version 5.04 very old?
[12:23] <Warbo> chetan: Ready?
[12:23] <chetan> yeah
[12:24] <Warbo> newbie33: The 05 is the year, the 04 is the month
[12:24] <chetan> Warbo: yeah
[12:24] <newbie33> is it posible to make global update/upgrade with one comand?
[12:24] <Warbo> chetan: OK. In a terminal (in accessories)  type "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[12:24] <kgoetz> h.m Warty EOL today
[12:25] <Warbo> newbie33: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:25] <Alth> No one's been able to help me with any of my questions so far >.>
[12:25] <chetan> Warbo: i get "(gedit:2174): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[12:25] <chetan> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[12:25] <chetan> " should i use just sudo instead
[12:26] <Warbo> chetan: Yes, try that (are you in admin group?)
[12:26] <iskywalker_> hi! has someone tomcat running i dont know how to get it working...
[12:26] <chetan> Warbo: i am the admin if thats what u mean
[12:26] <Warbo> chetan: If gedit comes up then you can ignore any messages
[12:26] <iskywalker_> can someone point me a ubuntu apache2 tomcat tutorial?
[12:27] <chetan> Warbo: got the gedit page
[12:27] <chetan> Warbo: i mean fstab
[12:27] <Alth> Darn it. I installed Synergy via apt-get. How do I execute it? Stupid question I know. Anyone?
[12:27] <mustard5> iskywalker_, I don't know of any offhand
[12:27] <Warbo> chetan: OK. Copy one of the lines to the bottom (so you have an extra line to play about with)
[12:28] <iskywalker_> Ath: sudo synaptic?
[12:28] <iskywalker_> Alth:
[12:28] <chetan> Warbo: what do u mean? copy the file in a seperate place?
[12:28] <Warbo> iskywalker_: Synergy is a keyboard/mouse thing
[12:28] <iskywalker_> argh
[12:28] <iskywalker_> sorry misread
[12:28] <Alth> synergy: command not found.
[12:29] <Warbo> chetan: No. Select a line (of the actual conetnt, not the column headings) copy, then move to the bottom and paste
[12:29] <fyrestrtr> the command is synergyc
[12:29] <fyrestrtr> for a client
[12:29] <Warbo> content
[12:29] <fyrestrtr> read the docs for it please :)
[12:29] <`Theus`> Hi all
[12:29] <Alth> Thanks fyrestrtr :)
[12:29] <b0se> hi... just wondering, has anyone died trying to disable the bash system bell?
[12:30] <newbie33> how to change time showing from war time, to normal
[12:30] <Warbo> b0se: Many computers have been hammered
[12:30] <chetan> Warbo: what do i copy cause i have quite a few things in the file...hda2, hda5, hdc,hbc,fd0,hda1
[12:30] <Warbo> chetan: Just copy any. Let's say hda1 line. We are going to change it (BTW, is this just a Pen Drive?)
[12:30] <asx> http://www.videosz.com/index.php?link_id=1
[12:30] <b0se> Warbo, tell me the good news man... it is possible right?
[12:31] <Warbo> b0se: I honestly don't know
[12:31] <Warbo> n0se: should be
[12:31] <mustard5> newbie33, in gnome?
[12:31] <chetan> Warbo: its a buffalo external harddrive (250GB) its loading and everything i just dont have default write permissions for one of the folders
[12:31] <newbie33> mustard5,  solved thanks :)
[12:31] <mustard5> k
[12:32] <Warbo> chetan: OK that's even better. (I'm assuming you leave it in, 'cos this file gets run automatically at boot up)
[12:32] <stylewalka> hi folks, is there an possiblity with evolution to change a webcalendar ?
[12:32] <b0se> Warbo, i've been trying for hours... no success.. it's been driving me crazy beeping in the middle of lectures at uni
[12:32] <chetan> Warbo: yeah
[12:32] <Warbo> chetan: Right, so you have a new line full of hda1 and things.
[12:32] <chetan> Warbo: yeah
[12:33] <b0se> if anyone has actually managed to disable the system bell, pls tell me about it
[12:33] <Warbo> chetan: First change the hda1 to sda1 (I am assuming that it is the first partition on the disc, and that it is the first USB drive)
[12:33] <Warbo> chetan: Do you already have an sda1 line above?
[12:34] <budak^kampung> warbo:i'm back
[12:34] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Hey. I'm in the middle of 2 walk-throughs now :)
[12:34] <Warbo> budak^kampung: OK, go into your CD where the setup.exe is like before
[12:34] <budak^kampung> warbo:sorry,my PC is too slow
[12:34] <chetan> Warbo: no
[12:34] <budak^kampung> warbo:ok
[12:34] <budak^kampung> warbo:next
[12:35] <Warbo> chetan: No what? What drive is it (first USb, second USB, etc) what partition (by default first) and is there a line already?
[12:35] <chetan> b0se: system-sound preferences- unclick sounds for events
[12:35] <newbie33> what mail program is the most similar to ms outlook express?
[12:35] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Now if you right click (NOT on a file, in the empty space) you will have a menu and in that menu is "Open In Terminal"
[12:36] <budak^kampung> warbo:yes,there is open in terminal
[12:36] <bliss1_> Warbo: i think it needs to be an exe file pretty sure
[12:36] <chetan> Warbo: ahh not sure i think its either hda5 or hda2,
[12:36] <b0se> chetan, that works for X, but when i'm directly in a terminal, it still beeps like hell
[12:36] <Warbo> budak^kampung: OK, go on that and you are in a terminal in the right place. In that terminal type "wine setup.exe" and that is it. The rest is up to WINE
[12:36] <chetan> b0se-sorry dude thats the only way i know
[12:37] <Warbo> chetan: If it is USB then it is sd something
[12:37] <Warbo> chetan: Is it the only USB drive?
[12:37] <b0se> chetan, ok thanks anyway... maybe i can set a record for the longest time spent trying to disable it
[12:37] <chetan> Warbo: no i dont have any sd anywhere
[12:37] <budak^kampung> warbo:it works :)
[12:37] <chetan> Warbo: yeah
[12:38] <Warbo> b0se: I once started an infinite loop calling on the beeper, even closing the terminal didn't stop it!
[12:38] <Warbo> chetan: Right, so it is sda, and I will assume that it is the only partition.
[12:39] <Warbo> chetan: Back to the file: Change the hda1 in the new line to sda1.
[12:39] <chetan> Warbo: yeah its just one 250Gb partition in the external harddrive
[12:39] <b0se> Warbo, damn that sounds terrible..
[12:39] <levander> I'm almost positive I installed the gnome-bin package for something I no longer want, but gnome-bin sounds like a dangerous one to remove.  Anybody know for sure if it's okay?
[12:39] <chetan> Warbo: yep
[12:39] <Warbo> chetan: Do you know if it is FAT32? "Can you open it in Windows?)
[12:39] <chetan> yeah its fat32
[12:39] <chetan> Warbo: yeah its fat32
[12:39] <chetan> Warbo: i can get it in windows as well
[12:40] <Warbo> chetan: OK. In type replace what is on that line (probably ext3 or maybe NTFS if you are dual booting) with vfat
[12:40] <teletubbie> how do you configure what port gnome bt client to use?
[12:41] <chetan> Warbo: yep
[12:41] <chetan> Warbo: dont i need to do a mkdir and everything to sent a mount point
[12:41] <Warbo> chetan: In mount point you can put whatever you want (this is where you will access the files, you can even putit somewhere in your home [but NOT directly your home folder] )
[12:42] <Warbo> chetan: Yes, if the mount point doesn't exist you can mkdir it now (as root if youdon'tt have permission)
[12:42] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Are you OK now?
[12:43] <Warbo> Hmm. That's rude
[12:43] <budak^kampung> warbo:yes warbo.Now installing progress :)
[12:43] <Warbo> budak^kampung: OK, just making sure :)
[12:43] <budak^kampung> warbo: I appreciate ur concern :)
[12:44] <Warbo> budak^kampung: no problem
[12:44] <Warbo> since chetan has skarpered
[12:44] <budak^kampung> warbo:now 86%
[12:44] <newbie33> what ftp manager to use?
[12:44] <Warbo> budak^kampung: I'm suprised it's working. WINE has got a lot better recently
[12:44] <diego> yeaaaaaaaaa
[12:45] <Warbo> newbie33: gftp maybe?
[12:45] <chetan> Warbo: sorry my internet is buggy
[12:45] <newbie33> ok ill try
[12:45] <Warbo> chetan: Hello
[12:45] <chetan> Warbo: yep
[12:45] <chetan> Warbo: sorry about that...did what u said
[12:45] <Warbo> chetan: OK, you have a mountpoint (which exists) then the options (the important bit)
[12:46] <chetan> Warbo: yep
[12:46] <Warbo> chetan: You will probably want to put (in this order) defaults,users,uid=yourusername,exec,rw exactly like that
[12:46] <levander> Could somehow who hasn't built much, but does run gnome, see if they have the gnome-bin package installed?
[12:46] <budak^kampung> warbo:i had problem with that CD. I need to try other CD
[12:47] <aLeSD> hi all
[12:47] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Are you sure it is the CD? WINE is nowhere near perfect (like I said, I was suprised)
[12:47] <chetan> Warbo: i was just wondering i already have a folder called HD-HBU2 which i am currently using to access my files from the external drive can i just add the mount point as that
[12:47] <bliss1_> hi
[12:47] <budak^kampung> warbo:OK, finish
[12:48] <aLeSD> I changed my graphic card on my machine... and now X can't start. How could I reconfigure it ?
[12:48] <levander> nobody who's running gnome can check to see if they have the gnome-bin package installed??
[12:48] <b0se> omg i suceeded! the last 3+ hours have not been wasted
[12:48] <Warbo> chetan: I wouldn't recommend putting a permanent mount (one in fstab) in /media. I would use /mnt instead, but you can put it anywhere
[12:48] <b0se> for anyone who wants to disable system bell
[12:48] <bliss1_> Wardo; can you give me that update command for kqemu the full command line please
[12:48] <budak^kampung> warbo:if i want to use photoshop, just type wine photoshop.exe?
[12:48] <stephen_banks> levander: nope, i dont have it
[12:48] <b0se> there is an option in /etc/inputrc
[12:48] <gnomefreak> levander: what version of ubuntu?
[12:48] <levander> gnomefreak: breezy
[12:48] <Warbo> bliss1_: You meanthe boot one?
[12:48] <geniusvicks> My laptop runs WIN XP. It has a DVD rom, how do I access that with my Ubuntu desktop?
[12:48] <Merphy> hi
[12:48] <levander> stephen_banks: you're running breezy and GNOME?
[12:48] <chetan> Warbo: so i should create a folder in mnt?
[12:49] <stephen_banks> levander: ah, im on dapper
[12:49] <bliss1_> Warbo; yep
[12:49] <levander> gnomefreak: what version you on?
[12:49] <Merphy> wana heelp on ldap
[12:49] <teletubbie> why can't I install azureus through apt-get?
[12:49] <teletubbie> !azureus
[12:49] <ubotu> it has been said that azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[12:49] <levander> stephen_banks: thanks for checking
[12:49] <stephen_banks> levander: no problem
[12:49] <gnomefreak> levander: no its not installed by default but its in universe repo
[12:49] <gnomefreak> levander: im on dapper
[12:49] <levander> gnomefreak: i'm going for it, i'm removing it...
[12:49] <budak^kampung> warbo: how i can use photoshop?
[12:50] <Warbo> budak^kampung: If it has installed properly. But WINE has it's own "fake" windows drive. If you go into your Home folder and turn on Hidden Files (in View) then go in .wine, then drive_c, then Program Files, Adobe, it's in there (use the "open in terminal" trick once you are in there
[12:50] <stephen_banks> teletubbie: its a java app, you'll need to install all the other java stuff to get it working
[12:50] <budak^kampung> warbo:what the command?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> teletubbie: azureus is a non-free app
[12:50] <teletubbie> I thought it was a free app
[12:50] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: its free.
[12:50] <Warbo> chetan: I would
[12:50] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: i can prove it
[12:50] <Warbo> chetan: (sorry, writing a long reply)
[12:50] <gnomefreak> iirc azureus is only free as in free beer
[12:50] <gnomefreak> its still under javas licencing
[12:51] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Are you in there?
[12:51] <CarNagE> aLeSD: Go to a tty and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to reconfigure your xorg
[12:51] <geniusvicks> My laptop runs WIN XP. It has a DVD rom, how do I access that with my Ubuntu desktop?
[12:51] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php
[12:51] <ompaul> !ntfs
[12:51] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:51] <aLeSD> CarNagE: thanks
[12:51] <ompaul> geniusvicks, ^^^
[12:51] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: click on the source link
[12:51] <budak^kampung> warbo:there is no drive c
[12:51] <teletubbie> I got dependencies problem :\
[12:52] <chetan> Warbo: no problem. so i use " defaults,users,uid=yourusername,exec,rw" instead of "vfat    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0"
[12:52] <Warbo> budak^kampung: In .wine? There should be (has an underscore in it) What is in there?
[12:52] <geniusvicks> ompaul: what?
[12:52] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: that doesnt say anything about the licence
[12:52] <Jokaba> http://www.gene-juice.com/galleries/060323/ggw1/index16.html
[12:52] <bliss1_> Wardo: its update-rc.d something
[12:52] <budak^kampung> warbo:got it
[12:52] <ompaul> geniusvicks, ubotu from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions   (the ^^ is look up a line or three :-))
[12:52] <Warbo> chetan: Keep the 2 0s at the end (and put your own username in there!)
[12:53] <agliv5> Greetings all :)   Is it possible to create an extra partition only for Ubuntu programms ie have OpenOffice and co installed on a seperate partition?
[12:53] <budak^kampung> warbo:there is photoshop.exe
[12:53] <budak^kampung> how i can run it?
[12:53] <chetan> Warbo: lol yeah did that
[12:53] <Warbo> agliv5: Maybe /usr or even better /usr/local (though would need some tweaking of packages)
[12:53] <gnomefreak> iirc azureus falls under java's licencing and that would make it _non-free_
[12:53] <ompaul> agliv5, they live in / you can have /usr /usr/local /usr/localbin but that is just easier to have /
[12:54] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Use the Open In Terminal like before and type "wine photoshop.exe"
[12:54] <budak^kampung> warbo:wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\photoshop.exe": Module not found
[12:54] <budak^kampung> syahir@ubuntu:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Adobe/Photoshop 6.0$
[12:54] <Warbo> chetan: OK. Save the file and you should be OK. First thing you do after exiting Gedit is "sudo umount /dev/sda1" then "sudo mount -a" andthen look in /mnt
[12:55] <bliss1_> Wardo /
[12:55] <CarNagE> Wardo: Thanks for your recommendation for fluxbox, it works great here!
[12:55] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Sorry, sounds like PhotoShop doesn't like WINE
[12:55] <chetan> Warbo: yeah its in the mnt folder now
[12:55] <Warbo> CarNagE: Oh helping feels good
[12:55] <newbie33> is such program, that would start and run windows exe files, somthing like emulator :)
[12:56] <CarNagE> Hehe :)
[12:56] <newbie33> ?
[12:56] <chetan> Warbo: but i still dont have default write permission
[12:56] <Warbo> newbie33: WINE. Read what I was telling budak^kampung
[12:56] <alberto> hola
[12:56] <Warbo> chetan: ?
[12:56] <alberto> "hello"
[12:56] <bliss1_> Wardo: the command line for he update?
[12:56] <budak^kampung> warbo:the file not photoshop.exe but photoshp.exe
[12:56] <chetan> Warbo: 2 of the folders in there dont allow me to modify it from the folder menu
[12:56] <Warbo> chetan: Surely, with that option you should
[12:57] <alberto> I,m spanish
[12:57] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Oh, sorry. Does it work with the right spelling?
[12:57] <Warbo> !es
[12:57] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:57] <chetan> Warbo: nah it still has the those little lock signs in the bottom left corner of the folder
[12:57] <alberto> ?
[12:57] <budak^kampung> warbo:nothing happen
[12:57] <agliv5> Warbo so it is posible, but I'd have to tweek things a bit?
[12:57] <ompaul> agliv5, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12594
[12:57] <chetan> Warbo: everytime i try to move something it does allow me
[12:57] <Warbo> chetan: Hmmmm. Try running mount with no options. Give me the line with sda1 in it
[12:58] <budak^kampung> warbo:mybe my PC is running too slow
[12:58] <kbrooks> ATTN
[12:58] <kbrooks> AZ is indeed licensed under the GPL:
[12:58] <bliss1_> Warbo; ok i am going now
[12:58] <geniusvicks> ompaul: no u have misunderstood. I have a desktop computer running Ubuntu and a Laptop running windows XP, in my desktop pc I want to use the DVD drive in my Laptop
[12:58] <chetan> Warbo: /dev/sda1       /media/Share  vfat    defaults,users,uid=chetan,exec,rw 0       0
[12:58] <Warbo> budak^kampung: It should at least tell you if it goes wrong
[12:58] <budak^kampung> warbo:If i want to install other programme,should i follow the same step?
[12:58] <kbrooks> AZ is indeed licensed under the GPL: http://sourceforge.net/projects/azureus'
[12:58] <kbrooks> AZ is indeed licensed under the GPL: http://sourceforge.net/projects/azureus
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[12:59] <budak^kampung> warbo: It doesn't say anything.hehehe :)
[12:59] <ompaul> kbrooks, stop, and the java it needs is not always that way - bottom line your attn was ot
[12:59] <Warbo> budak^kampung: Yes. Go to where they are, use Open In Terminal then run their installer (like setup.exe) andthey will install in the Program Files folder somewhere
[12:59] <kbrooks> ompaul: er?
[12:59] <budak^kampung> warbo: Thanks a lot
[01:00] <kbrooks> ompaul: so azureus is nonfree?
[01:00] <agliv5> thanks for the link ompaul I get back with you when it comes time to repartition my HD ;)
[01:00] <Warbo> chetan: Hang on
[01:00] <budak^kampung> warbo: I must leave to perform pray
[01:00] <Warbo> budak^kampung: See you. Good luck with your programs and stuff :)
[01:00] <budak^kampung> warbo:can u give ur email ,that i can contact if i got problem?
[01:00] <Alth> DON'T DO IT WARBO! =O
[01:00] <ompaul> kbrooks, that is not what I said - what I am saying is that not all java implementations of java are free, and if it works with blackdown fine if not then you have something free dpending on non free this is for offtopic
[01:00] <Alth> :P
[01:02] <geniusvicks> I have a desktop computer running Ubuntu and a Laptop running windows XP, in my desktop pc I want to use the DVD drive in my Laptop by creating a network or something of that kind
[01:02] <ompaul> geniusvicks, don't think so
[01:02] <budak^kampung> warbo: if i want to uninstall it, how can i do?
[01:02] <ompaul> geniusvicks, please don't repeat that for 10/15 minutes people will take time talking to you _if_ they have an answer
[01:02] <gnomefreak> i could have sworn java made azureus but they dont make it some 3rd party makes it
[01:02] <Warbo> budak^kampung: It should have it's own uninstall program. Run it in WINE (just like on Windows). Sometimes it is called something silly like Unwise.exe
[01:02] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: right
[01:03] <Deraa> www.naughty-xxx-porn-girls.com www.24freesex.com http://www.videosz.com/index.php?link_id=1 http://www.gene-juice.com/galleries/060323/ggw1/index16.html http://www.al4a.com/links.html http://www.japxxx.com/unhun150/index.html http://www.kinky-cinema.com/freegals/agangels33/4276/index.htm http://www.enter4freestuff.com/
[01:03] <Alth> You guys get a lot of porn spams.
[01:03] <Alth> -s
[01:03] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[01:03] <newbie33> what the Ubugtu means? :)
[01:03] <Alth> Woot :D
[01:03] <BearPerson> ompaul, I'm faster ;-)
[01:03] <gnomefreak> ompaul: now would be a good time to run +r +f?
[01:03] <budak^kampung> warbo:ok,thanks.
[01:03] <geniusvicks> ok ompaul
[01:03] <ahmeni> Enter for free stuff?  Sounds like a quick step to herpes
[01:04] <stuck> Can anyone here answer a quick Q?
[01:04] <Hobbsee> !+ask
[01:04] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[01:04] <Alth> Try us, stuck :)
[01:04] <stuck> What mode is Q?
[01:04] <ahmeni> +q is owner, i think
[01:04] <Warbo> chetan: Hmmm. Having problems with findong the options
[01:04] <Alth> Yeah. ~. Owner.
[01:05] <stuck> MY channel mode came +Q
[01:05] <kbrooks> stuck:
[01:05] <kbrooks> ahmeni:
[01:05] <kbrooks> +q on this network is a silence
[01:05] <kbrooks> +Q doesnt exist on here
[01:05] <ahmeni> ahh, neat
[01:05] <stuck> hrmm
[01:05] <kbrooks> case matters
[01:06] <stuck> thats odd, my channel is +Q
[01:06] <chetan> Warbo: i original copied the files from a windows system. does that affect it in anyway (i dont think it shoudl cause i copied another buch of files from another windows computer and i can modify those without any problem)
[01:06] <stuck> I guess i can -Q it
[01:07] <Warbo> chetan: I don't think so (what are the permissions on the files? Really they should be owned by you not root)
[01:07] <rob> hopefully, for a while..
[01:07] <Vazx> www.naughty-xxx-porn-girls.com www.24freesex.com http://www.videosz.com/index.php?link_id=1 http://www.gene-juice.com/galleries/060323/ggw1/index16.html http://www.al4a.com/links.html http://www.japxxx.com/unhun150/index.html
[01:07] <Warbo> rob: yay
[01:07] <stuck> you guys still having problems i see
[01:07] <chetan> Warbo: it says in the permission options "File Owner - chetan" File Group-chetan
[01:07] <Warbo> stuck: maybe
[01:08] <rob> they are getting smart
[01:08] <Warbo> chetan: Then you chould be able to do what you want with them
[01:08] <gnomefreak> are they bots or just users spamming?
[01:08] <chetan> Warbo: everytime i try to move anything in it says "You do not have permissions to write to this folder."
[01:08] <gnomefreak> users = pretty much never stop them unless ban set
[01:08] <rob> spambots :)
[01:08] <ompaul> BearPerson, :-)
[01:09] <ompaul> BearPerson, +?
[01:09] <Warbo> chetan: Check the permissionon that folder: does it have write and execute enabled?
[01:09] <ompaul> what do you think?
[01:09] <BearPerson> ompaul, hmm?
[01:09] <Warbo> chetan: Maybe "sudo chown chetan /media/Share"
[01:09] <chetan> Warbo: lol i am soo stupid it didnt have write enabled
[01:09] <BearPerson> I can't think much except "I can't swap out all the time" right now ;-)
[01:09] <ompaul> BearPerson, +r on the channel? would it work?
[01:09] <chetan> Warbo: yeah it works now thanks heaps :D
[01:10] <Warbo> chetan: You're welcome
[01:10] <Warbo> Maybe I go out now like I was going to 3 hours ago
[01:11] <BearPerson> ompaul, no, unfortunately
[01:11] <Warbo> bliss1_: Still want that script (sorry I forgot)
[01:11] <ompaul> BearPerson, okay, thanks actually I see it now
[01:11] <bliss1_> Warbo: i gave you the script
[01:11] <Warbo> bliss1_: But then asked for it
[01:12] <bliss1_> Warbo: i need the line update
[01:12] <munzir> Hi, I have 3 pc's behind a router. two linux and one windows. the router automagically made nat rules like
[01:12] <Warbo> ?
[01:12] <munzir> Idx Type Interface       Outside Address                Inside Address                 Use
[01:12] <munzir>   1 NAPT Internet        96.50.33.43:51978             192.168.1.251:3142             1
[01:12] <munzir> where that internal ip is the windows one. Why those nat rules are set to windows only?
[01:12] <Seveas> rob, why did you set +r? the bots identify themselves...
[01:12] <rob> Seveas, not all of them do
[01:12] <Seveas> ah
[01:12] <Seveas> we prefer to have +r only when needed, not all the time
[01:13] <Warbo> munzir: One machine at a time lets you have better control
[01:13] <Seveas> (and definitely not while the +f channel is on +i)
[01:13] <bliss1_> Warbo; its update-rc.d somethong/
[01:14] <munzir> Warbo: yes the question is which machine is choosen by default? I didn't made those rules
[01:14] <Warbo> bliss1_: Oh THAT'S what you meant.
[01:14] <Warbo> munzir: I wouldn't know the set up for your router sorry
[01:14] <Warbo> bliss1_: update-rc.d nameoffileininit.d defaults
[01:15] <Sareq> http://movies.easy-dater.com/galleries/01/278/index.html  http://www.worldsex.com/ http://jizz.juggcrew.com/198/?t=3&nats=MjQ3OjY6MTQ
[01:15] <Warbo> Grrrrr...
[01:15] <Warbo> Are they all just waking up or something?
[01:15] <bliss1_> Warbo: ok so update-rc.d kqemu.sh defaults
[01:15] <harrisj> Has anyone got a gnome menu with curves?
[01:16] <Warbo> bliss1_: Should be (need sudo first though)
[01:16] <munzir> Warbo: do you have any idea how can i figure out what those ports are used for?
[01:17] <notjosh> is there some kind of init script for svnserve in /etc/init.d/ or some such?
[01:17] <Warbo> munzir: Erm. Maybe. Netcat I think
[01:18] <Warbo> bliss1_: Did it run?
[01:18] <ahmeni> munzir: check /etc/services, lots of common ports in there
[01:19] <notjosh> is there some kind of init script for svnserve in /etc/init.d/ or some such?
[01:19] <bliss1_> Wardo; yep from rc0.d to rc5.d
[01:19] <lilo> working on a patch to services
[01:20] <munzir> ahmeni: no they are not :(
[01:20] <lilo> ah, different thing
[01:20] <lilo> though one of the patches will probably cover it
[01:21] <Seveas> sex
[01:21] <Ubugtu> Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
[01:21] <Seveas> Ubugtu, broken piece of crap
[01:21] <rob> i didn't think it was working :)
[01:21] <bungle> !vnc
[01:21] <ubotu> hmm... vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)
[01:21] <fyrestrtr> hrmm, why is it that even though I have direct rendinging On, wine complains about missing opengl?
[01:21] <ahmeni> blah.. I hate not being able to pick between kde and gnome
[01:22] <Seveas> @reload exploitban
[01:22] <Seveas> porn
[01:22] <rob> nice one
[01:22] <Seveas> BEWARE OF THA BOT!
[01:22] <_jason> hey there is a valid package with por n in the title
[01:22] <ompaul> notjosh, first off, please don't repast so much, second when people have answers they answer :-) this may help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SubVersion
[01:22] <pepsi> hi there
[01:23] <pepsi> oh
[01:23] <notjosh> oh, sorry :/ i saw the topic about registering and realised i hadn't registered.. :/
[01:23] <ompaul> Seveas, congrats
[01:23] <Seveas> _jason, true, but since ther are quite a few pr0nspammers today, I prefer false positives 
[01:23] <notjosh> so i did, then pasted.. my bad :/
[01:23] <Warbo> pepsi: hi
[01:23] <_jason> Seveas: maybe you can make sure se.x/por.n is preceded by http/www?
[01:24] <ompaul> _jason, for one word that is used once every 100 days ...
[01:24] <Seveas> good call
[01:24] <Seveas> @reload exploitban
[01:24] <Seveas> ompaul, pornview is a damn good imageviewer
[01:24] <ompaul> hehe
[01:25] <pax> erm .. brilliant! I just made an alias porn='sudo apt-get upgarde' :-0
[01:25] <Warbo> what happens ti IP address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx?
[01:25] <rambo3> make ig update && upgrade
[01:26] <gnomefreak> Seveas: what word did you say to get kicked? was it p.o.r.n?
[01:26] <Seveas> gnomefreak, no, I said "ubugtu is a freak" ;)
[01:27] <gnomefreak> oh
[01:27] <ompaul> Seveas, I was about to
[01:27] <pax> good call.
[01:28] <ompaul> your just toooooo fast
[01:28] <pax> he's darn fast when he wants to.
[01:28] <Seveas> *KILL SPREE*
[01:28] <pax> yano you're toooo lazy when you make .bash_aliases :-)
[01:29] <notjosh> hmmm, any idea how i can get svnserve (not libapache2-svn) running on system startup?
[01:30] <ompaul>  notjosh is the information not here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SubVersion (not that I looked :-))
[01:31] <nathanj> what do i need to do to amek nvidia work if i change my kernel?>
[01:31] <notjosh> nope, it just says how to execute the command yourself from commandline
[01:31] <notjosh> buuut, that would run the app as me, not as the user i want it to run as
[01:31] <Warbo> nathanj: Depends how you made it. If you used normal ubuntu packages it should still work
[01:31] <notjosh> which breaks all sorts of permissions
[01:32] <nathanj> Warbo: i used kernel-images-686
[01:32] <Warbo> nathanj: Is your nvidia installed using the nvidia-glx package and things?
[01:33] <nathanj> Warbo: yeah
[01:33] <mustard5> nathanj, the only issue you need to look out for is that the linux-restricted-modules (for the new kernel version) are loaded with the new kernel
[01:33] <nathanj> Warbo: but some reason after the reboot it whinged it could find the nvidia driver
[01:33] <Warbo> nathanj: Then when it installs the newer kernel it should build the nvidia module for it as well
[01:33] <nathanj> mustard5: ahhh
[01:33] <mustard5> nathanj, normally thats pretty automatic
[01:34] <mustard5> nathanj, if you use the linux kernel metapackage to install
[01:34] <Warbo> nathanj: Maybe try installing the linux-restricted-modules-(new kernel)
[01:34] <cafuego> Warbo: Only if the linux-restricted-modules-$ARCH package is installed.
[01:34] <Bizzy> hey, how do i enable universe now?
[01:34] <mustard5> !repos
[01:34] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:34] <bliss1_> hi
[01:35] <mustard5> hey bliss1_
[01:35] <bliss1_> Wardo: theres a new kqemu
[01:35] <bliss1_> mustard5: hi how are things
[01:35] <mustard5> bliss1_, not too bad..took a few panadol for a headache and now I'm fine ;)
[01:36] <Warbo> bliss1_: Well unless it's loads better I'm fine
[01:36] <Warbo> bliss1_: and it's a b
[01:36] <sfar> will anything break if i install firefox 1.0.8 (so i can get rid of the update notifyiing thing) when i already have firefox 1.5 installed?
[01:36] <tupac> ubuntu-fr
[01:37] <P> hdhd
[01:37] <mustard5> sfar, hard to say definitively :)
[01:37] <P> quit
[01:37] <mustard5> sfar, depends how firefox 1.5 was installed
[01:37] <bliss1_> Wardi it seems to make no diffrence with mu boot up the kernel mesage is same as before localhost kernel [4294694.763000]  KQEMU installed, max_instances=4 max_locked_mem=88856kB.
[01:37] <sfar> i followed the guide, mustard5
[01:37] <sfar> so 1.0.7 is still installed
[01:37] <mustard5> sfar, I would assume they are two separate installations
[01:38] <mustard5> sfar, but don't quote me on that ;)
[01:38] <Warbo> bliss1_: It's a b and and o. I can't really be bothered to rebuild it if there is no huge performance increase
[01:38] <mustard5> sfar, you might have to check what changes are made to your default browser settings afterwards I suppose
[01:38] <sfar> hm, ill try :>
[01:38] <sfar> cant go THAT bad
[01:39] <Warbo> sfar: You say that now...
[01:39] <mustard5> sfar, heheh..well...I dont' know about that :)
[01:39] <bliss1_> Warbo; i just followed the howto
[01:39] <kbrooks> !ff1.5
[01:39] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:40] <newbie33> is it posible to run install CD as repairer to reconfig everything?
[01:40] <mustard5> sfar, it might be easier to pin the version of firefox to 1.0.7 in synaptic
[01:40] <newbie33> if loging to system isnt posible
[01:40] <sfar> now you tell me
[01:40] <sfar> :)
[01:40] <mustard5> sfar, :)
[01:40] <mustard5> sfar, well since its just he 'update thingy' thats annoying you :)
[01:40] <bliss1_> Warbo: the kernel message i posted did you see it
[01:40] <Warbo> newbie33: I would say you could force install all of the packages from disc, but I don't know if you can do it running FROM the disc
[01:41] <sfar> well, seems like it worked.. 1.5 starts when i run "firefox"
[01:41] <Warbo> bliss1_: Yes
[01:41] <newbie33> Warbo, how to reconfigure it from console?
[01:41] <newbie33> I mean X if it would be broken
[01:41] <bliss1_> Warbo; whats mem=88856kb mean?
[01:42] <khamael> what is the chmod number for read/write/execute for just the owner?
[01:42] <digen> khamael, chmod 700
[01:42] <newbie33> khamael, 700
[01:42] <Warbo> newbie33: I would say that going in pool and using "sudo dpkg --force-all -i */*/*.deb" would work, but would be a very silly thing to do. And I don't know ifit would work from the install disc
[01:43] <Warbo> bliss1_: I don't know. The RAM given to QEmu?
[01:44] <imperfect-> I'm running dapper and I'm having some apt issues.. is there an easy solution for apt problems?
[01:44] <Bizzy> ahh
[01:44] <Bizzy> ty
[01:44] <khamael> digen and newbie33: thanks
[01:44] <digen> khamael, np
[01:44] <Bizzy> can i replace the gnome de with xfce4?
[01:45] <lflashl> wht a gd fiewall for linux
[01:45] <AAA> Bizzy  sure, just install xfce4 and on the login screen just choose xfce4
[01:45] <_jason> !firewall
[01:45] <Bizzy> can i set it as default?
[01:45] <sfar> yes Bizzy
[01:45] <sfar> i think it will ask you when you log in
[01:45] <AAA> lflashl  http://smoothwall.org/get/
[01:46] <_jason> lflashl: buntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic. :)
[01:46] <AAA> Bizzy  yeah, it'll ask if you want it to be the default when you choose it
[01:46] <Bizzy> im just doin a full update + universe update
[01:46] <imperfect-> Anyone know why dapper seems to require the brail stuff?
[01:46] <graveson> how do i disabl dao ?
[01:46] <sfar> Bizzy: download xubuntu-desktop
[01:46] <lflashl> whats the apt-get name for firestater
[01:46] <[Wiebel] > hmmz
[01:46] <_jason> lflashl: firestarter
[01:46] <gnomefreak> lflashl: apt-get install firestarter
[01:46] <AAA> lflashl  apt-cache search fire
[01:46] <[Wiebel] > gnome's autocompletion is pretty anoying default
[01:47] <[Wiebel] > if i type a path for example
[01:47] <AAA> [Wiebel]   that is bash completion
[01:47] <Warbo> AAA: Don't discriminate against guarddog
[01:47] <[Wiebel] > i type /ho , it complets to /home and set the cursor behind the e
[01:47] <[Wiebel] > so if i type /home
[01:47] <[Wiebel] > i get /homeme
[01:47] <[Wiebel] > but it doesnt do this always
[01:48] <[Wiebel] > somtimes it just select the remaining tekst
[01:48] <[Wiebel] > (as it should)
[01:48] <[Wiebel] > so if someone knows a good way for fixing this... :)
[01:48] <gnomefreak> [Wiebel] : use ~/ instead of /ho
[01:48] <[Wiebel] > gnomefreak: that's not the issue
[01:48] <[Wiebel] > it does that with everything
[01:48] <newbie33> I have finished apt-get dist-upgrade on 5.04 what posible problems after reboot
[01:49] <AAA> newbie33  only one way to find out =p
[01:49] <imperfect-> [Wiebel]  : I'm guessing you just need to get used to completetion... cuz from what you're saying it's working as it should..
[01:49] <newbie33> :/
[01:49] <[Wiebel] > imperfect-: no
[01:49] <[Wiebel] > it should do:
[01:49] <[Wiebel] > typeing /ho ; add me and select it and leave the curser where it is
[01:50] <[Wiebel] > s/type/typ/
[01:50] <kbrooks> !ff1.5
[01:50] <_jason> [Wiebel] : that doesn't seem to happen here... /ho gives me /home but me is highlighted so I type over if I want to or press tab to complete as is and go to the end
[01:50] <gnomefreak> newbie33: from 5.04-5.10?
[01:50] <sfar> [Wiebel] : doesn't happen here either
[01:50] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:50] <[Wiebel] > jarlev: that what it should do, sometimes it does sometimes it doesnt
[01:50] <AAA> newbie33  chances are you will be fine, did it install a new kernel as well? that would _may_ cause something not to work if you changed anything in your running kernel that the new one knows not about
[01:50] <newbie33> gnomefreak,  dont know in to what version just typed apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:50] <[Wiebel] > er
[01:50] <[Wiebel] > er
[01:50] <_jason> [Wiebel] : when doesn't it?
[01:50] <[Wiebel] > _jason: hat what it should do, sometimes it does sometimes it doesnt
[01:50] <gnomefreak> newbie33: was the upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[01:51] <[Wiebel] > _jason: work like it should
[01:51] <newbie33> hoary
[01:51] <gnomefreak> newbie33: did you change sources list?
[01:51] <[Wiebel] > i tested with a new user
[01:51] <[Wiebel] > same issue
[01:51] <newbie33> no
[01:51] <lflashl> i have a AMD 2200+ CPu so should i be using the 586 kernel?
[01:51] <_jason> [Wiebel] : what program?
[01:51] <OlliK> hi, all
[01:51] <[Wiebel] > _jason: gnome
[01:51] <gnomefreak> newbie33: than nothing will happen because you didnt change ubuntu versions
[01:51] <AAA> [Wiebel]   search around google, I have never tried to change such a thing
[01:51] <[Wiebel] > _jason: all gnome programs
[01:51] <sfar> sure you not got a folder named homeme ? :)
[01:51] <sfar> or a file
[01:52] <newbie33> hmz
[01:52] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[01:52] <ubotu> upgrade is, like, totally, Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.  Upgrading to dapper (remember it may break). Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html
[01:52] <_jason> [Wiebel] : in all honesty, that's never happened to me... are you using breezy?
[01:52] <Belboz99> Hey all, I'm having problem with the expr command in my bash scripts
[01:52] <gnomefreak> newbie33: follow the wiki for breezy upgrade
[01:52] <newbie33> ok later
[01:52] <Belboz99> TTIMEDAYS=`expr $TTIME / 60.0 / 60.0 / 24.0` gives an error
[01:53] <Belboz99> expr: non-numeric argument is the error
[01:53] <[Wiebel] > _jason: breezy and dapper
[01:53] <[Wiebel] > both give me the same issue :/
[01:53] <Warbo> Belboz99: Is TTIME already set?
[01:53] <AAA> Belboz99  double quotes? not sure
[01:53] <[Wiebel] > _jason: i can't really pinpoint it
[01:53] <Belboz99> Warbro, yeah
[01:53] <[Wiebel] > that's the anoying thing
[01:53] <_jason> [Wiebel] : if that's happening, it sounds like a bug.  Can you figure out some sort of steps that lets you replciate it always?
[01:54] <[Wiebel] > _jason: not really :/
[01:54] <[Wiebel] > it random
[01:54] <Belboz99> the same command runs fine if I use Integer values
[01:54] <Bizzeh> woo, finaly got a SMP kernel runing under vmware
[01:54] <Sp4rKy> when i do "dpkg-reconfigure usplash", i've the error "can't load dm_mod"
[01:54] <imperfect-> You're not accessing it via a ssh session or something right?
[01:54] <Belboz99> but of course my answer is way off :P
[01:54] <Sp4rKy> any idea ?
[01:54] <imperfect-> This couldn't be a terminal issue?
[01:55] <AAA> Sp4rKy  sudo modprobe dm_mod ?
[01:55] <Sp4rKy> AAA no module found
[01:55] <Warbo> Belboz99: Hmmmm. I get same problem with `echo $(($TTIME/60.0/60.0/25.0))`
[01:56] <AAA> Sp4rKy  sounds like that is your problem. locate dm_mod
[01:56] <Sp4rKy> /usr/share/gnulib/m4/st_dm_mode.m4
[01:57] <j0hannes> good morning
[01:57] <[Wiebel] > _jason: is there a way to "film" what you're doing on the desktop?
[01:58] <dartmolx> hello everyone :)
[01:58] <[Wiebel] > s/film/record/
[01:58] <Warbo> [Wiebel] : A few. Istanbul, vnc2swf are the best
[01:58] <lflashl> ubuntu 2.6.12-9-386 does this mean i running a 386 kernel?
[01:59] <gnomefreak> lflashl: yes
[01:59] <[Wiebel] > Warbo: thanks
[01:59] <Warbo> lflashl: Yes, but it will work on anything up to and including amd64
[01:59] <AAA> Sp4rKy  hrm. hold
[01:59] <lflashl> should i be running a 586 or 686 kernel on my AMD 2200+ for better performace
[02:00] <Warbo> lflashl: You should run k7 for best performance
[02:00] <Sp4rKy> AAA, :/
[02:00] <Belboz99> lflashl:  you should use K7
[02:00] <imbrandon> k7
[02:00] <imbrandon> apt-get install linux-k7 ;)
[02:00] <lflashl> is there a k7 kernel and if so whts the name
[02:00] <newbie33> 2.6.10-5-386 what it means?
[02:00] <AAA> Sp4rKy  lsmod|grep dm_mod  on my ubuntu system it is loaded are you running a custom kernel?  let me check something
[02:00] <rob> newbie33, kernel version, and its 386
[02:00] <imbrandon> lflashl: sudo apt-get install linux-k7
[02:00] <rob> compatible that is
[02:01] <gnomefreak> newbie33: that is the kernel
[02:01] <newbie33> how to know ubuntu version?
[02:01] <sobbbber> what p2p software would u recommend for ubuntu?
[02:01] <rob>  uname -a
[02:01] <gnomefreak> newbie33: lsb_release
[02:01] <kgoetz> newbie33, its a generic kernel
[02:01] <gnomefreak> -a
[02:01] <Warbo> newbie33: linux version and the type of computer it was made for (386 is generic PC)
[02:01] <Bizzeh> just set up a 64bit ubuntu, (k8 smp kernel) in vmware, with xfce4, and all the current updates. working like a charm :)
[02:01] <imbrandon> newbie33: cat /etc/issue
[02:01] <Sp4rKy> AAA, yes, it's a custom kernel (2.6.16.5)
[02:01] <gnomefreak> newbie33: lsb_release -a
[02:01] <kgoetz> imbrandon, hes running hoary it seems
[02:01] <newbie33> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[02:01] <newbie33> Description:    Ubuntu (The Hoary Hedgehog Release)
[02:01] <newbie33> Release:        5.04
[02:01] <newbie33> Codename:       hoary
[02:01] <newbie33> so its old :(
[02:01] <bliss1_> hi
[02:02] <imbrandon> ahhh kgoetz no "cat /etc/issue" is horray?
[02:02] <kgoetz> :)
[02:02] <kgoetz> imbrandon, hm?
[02:02] <imbrandon> good call ;)
[02:02] <newbie33> how to UP it to newest stable version
[02:02] <[Wiebel] > Warbo: hmm
[02:02] <kgoetz> :)
[02:02] <lflashl> how do i make linux play a meida in the current program IE i wil playing a song and if i click on a new song it will bring up a new windows for the program
[02:02] <[Wiebel] > Warbo: how can i play the ogg files istanbul creates?
[02:02] <bliss1_> looking for this file in ubuntu `/etc/udev/permissions.d/50-udev.permissions not in /etc/udev
[02:02] <[Wiebel] > ow way
[02:02] <[Wiebel] > nvm
[02:03] <levander> if xubuntu-desktop (for xfce) supposed to ship with dapper now?
[02:03] <imbrandon> lflashl: sudo apt-get install mozill-mplayer
[02:03] <levander> is xubuntu-desktop?*
[02:03] <imbrandon> lflashl: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[02:03] <kbrooks> hmm
[02:03] <Warbo> [Wiebel] : Use any player that comes with Ubuntu (that's the one format they CAN play) but Istanbul has a habit of screwing up, so it may be corrupt
[02:03] <[Wiebel] > istanbul freezes up :/
[02:03] <kgoetz> levander, probably still in universe
[02:03] <AAA> Sp4rKy  sounds like you are missing that module in your kernel config, I am not sure where it is in menuconfig, but you prolly need to just build that module.  I am still checking
[02:04] <levander> kgoetz: i thought that was one of the benefits of delaying dapper, they thought they could get xubuntu in
[02:04] <kbrooks> levander: nO.
[02:04] <kbrooks> No.
[02:04] <kbrooks> levander: Polish, etc
[02:04] <Sp4rKy> AAA, ok, so i'll recompil my kernel :)
[02:04] <kgoetz> levander, i'm not sure. tehy were *hoping to*
[02:04] <kgoetz> afaik
[02:04] <Warbo> [Wiebel] : If you get x11vnc package and start it then you can broadcast your desktop to yourself. Use pyvnc2swf (not in repos I don't think) to record it to a swf (flash) file or a vnc session file, both of which can be converted to MPEG
[02:05] <kbrooks> levander: dapper will be a enterpprise level release
[02:05] <levander> kbrooks: you want me to go pull up the letter that that S. African Ubuntu Head guy wrote saying he wanted to get it in?
[02:05] <lflashl> before i install my drivers for my nvidia card should i be doing anythign new to mu system
[02:06] <newbie33> after dist-upgrade everything is perfect
[02:06] <kgoetz> lflashl, bring it up to date
[02:06] <Warbo> [Wiebel] : pyvnc2swf is here if you want it http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/
[02:06] <DiKKy> Hy lol does online poker work with ubuntu lunix ? lol
[02:06] <levander> kbrooks: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2006-March/000734.html
[02:06] <newbie33> now I would like tu upgrade ubuntu from 5.04 hoary to stable breezy version, hot to make it?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> newbie33: what does uname -r say when typed in terminal?
[02:06] <levander> "Speaking of Xubuntu,  there is a main inclusion report under discussion
[02:06] <levander> to make Xubuntu part of main, and to publish ISO's of Xubuntu. The extra
[02:06] <Warbo> DiKKy: Some do
[02:06] <levander> time makes this a more reasonable proposition.
[02:06] <levander> "
[02:06] <DiKKy> which ones?
[02:07] <gnomefreak> levander: can we move this to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:07] <Warbo> DiKKy: I think it was either Virgin or 888 that someone mentioned to me. Try Google
[02:07] <levander> gnomefreak: how is this offtopic?
[02:07] <newbie33> gnomefreak, root@tyla:/home/rkz # uname -r
[02:07] <newbie33> 2.6.10-6-386
[02:07] <kgoetz> levander, its not directly about support
[02:07] <AAA> Sp4rKy  yeah, sorry I wasn't of more assistance, but I firmly believe you just need to enable that in your config and build _just that module_ should be quick. good luck
[02:07] <kgoetz> please do go into -offtopic with it :)
[02:07] <sobbbber> what p2p software would u recommend for ubuntu?
[02:07] <levander> it's about finding out what packages are in dapper, that's "support"
[02:08] <kgoetz> !info xubuntu-desktop
[02:08] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: (Xubuntu desktop system), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 1.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[02:08] <Warbo> levander: Then it's #ubuntu+1 :)
[02:08] <AAA> sobbbber  apt-get =p
[02:08] <gnomefreak> newbie33: your still using same version of ubuntu as you were before
[02:08] <Sp4rKy> AAA, ok i'll search , thx
[02:08] <gnomefreak> levander: package.ubuntu.com
[02:08] <kgoetz> levander, asking about packages is support, arguiing if some funny SA/Pome bloke wants them around isnt :D
[02:08] <newbie33> gnomefreak, yes, and Id like to upgrade it
[02:09] <AAA> Sp4rKy  you could also try using a 'stock' ubuntu kernel
[02:09] <gnomefreak> newbie33: are you using gnome?
[02:09] <Sp4rKy> AAA, what's a stock kernel ?
[02:09] <[Wiebel] > Warbo: do i need to run VNC server to make a recording with vnc2swf?
[02:09] <newbie33> gnomefreak,  yes
[02:09] <gnomefreak> newbie33: type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:09] <[Wiebel] > or can i run it on my running desktop
[02:09] <bliss1_> gnomefreak: anyideas where i can find etc/udev/permissions.d/50-udev.permissions in ubuntu  did locate only can find /sbin/udev
[02:09] <gnomefreak> newbie33: let me know when its done
[02:09] <AAA> Sp4rKy  one that you get from the repo's that you just install and boot to
[02:10] <levander> kgoetz: you realize the SA/bloke guy is Mark Shuttleworth, the guy that started ubuntu, and if you're under the impression the conversation should stop, why do you keep bringing it back up?
[02:10] <newbie33> ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[02:10] <newbie33> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:10] <gnomefreak> bliss1_: if that is correct path than follow the path other wise im not sure
[02:10] <Warbo> [Wiebel] : You can use x11vnc to broadcast your current desktop to yourself. Good guide for it here (official) http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/pyvnc2swf.html
[02:10] <newbie33> gnomefreak, ?
[02:10] <Sp4rKy> AAA, ok  , but i want swsusp2 so i have to recompil it
[02:10] <DiKKy> Lol, i actually found this site http://www.compatiblepoker.com/ , Warbo
[02:10] <kgoetz> levander, trust me, i know a fair bit about Mark, i went out of my way to meet him :)
[02:10] <gnomefreak> newbie33: now type gksudo /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:10] <gnomefreak> oops
[02:10] <[Wiebel] > Warbo: thanks
[02:10] <Sp4rKy> AAA and this kernel are very big and slow
[02:10] <Warbo> DiKKy: Whatever floats your boat
[02:10] <gnomefreak> newbie33: type gksudo gedit /etc/apt-sources.list
[02:11] <teletubbie> on wi ndows I can transfer files over ssh at 1.8mbytes/sec but on gnome, I only get 400kb/s :\
[02:11] <Warbo> [Wiebel] : (go up in the directories to find the download)
[02:11] <teletubbie> how's that posible?
[02:11] <newbie33> it should be source.list
[02:11] <gnomefreak> newbie33: yes it should be
[02:11] <gnomefreak> is it newbie33 ?
[02:11] <cafuego> chanserv is back
[02:12] <newbie33> /etc/apt/source.list
[02:12] <teletubbie> 
[02:12] <gnomefreak> newbie33: it should brin gup the sources list file does it?
[02:12] <gnomefreak> s/brin gup/bring up
[02:13] <Warbo> newbie33: "cat /etc/apt/source.list" "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" which gives output?
[02:13] <newbie33> Get:1 http://lt.archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release.gpg [189B] 
[02:13] <newbie33> Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release.gpg [189B] 
[02:13] <newbie33> Get:3 http://lt.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release.gpg [189B] 
[02:13] <newbie33> and so on
[02:13] <gnomefreak> newbie33: no
[02:13] <gnomefreak> newbie33: type in terminal gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:14] <newbie33> deb http://lt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[02:14] <newbie33> deb-src http://lt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[02:14] <newbie33> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[02:14] <newbie33> ## distribution.
[02:14] <newbie33> deb http://lt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[02:14] <newbie33> deb-src http://lt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[02:14] <gnomefreak> newbie33: stop pasting
[02:14] <newbie33> ups
[02:14] <BearPerson> jeez, stop all those URLs please :)
[02:14] <Warbo> newbie33: You are updating to the latest HOARY. You want to update to BREEZY
[02:14] <newbie33> Id like to have stable new version
[02:14] <gnomefreak> newbie33: in that file please delete the word hoary from every line and in its place put the word breezy
[02:15] <newbie33> ok
[02:15] <r0bby_> ./window 40
[02:15] <AAA> r0bby_  you have 40 irc windows open?
[02:15] <tonyyarusso> Oh not cool.  Today's update broke my Firefox launcher (1.5 diversion).  To the wiki!
[02:15] <gnomefreak> newbie33: breezy is latest stable
[02:15] <cafuego> sudo sed --i "s/hoary/breezy/g" /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:15] <cafuego> Um, drop a '-'
[02:16] <Seveas> and add a -e
[02:16] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:16] <newbie33> gnomefreak, done
[02:16] <gnomefreak> newbie33: click save
[02:16] <newbie33> done
[02:16] <gnomefreak> newbie33: than close out of the sources.list file
[02:16] <newbie33> apt-get update done too
[02:16] <newbie33> :)
[02:16] <gnomefreak> newbie33: in terminal type sudo apt-get update
[02:16] <gnomefreak> ok
[02:16] <gnomefreak> now type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:17] <newbie33> it will take some time
[02:17] <gnomefreak> newbie33: there should be like hundreds of packages it wants to update maybe more thanhundreds
[02:17] <r0bby_> AA, I have 70+ windows open
[02:18] <newbie33> ok thanks I will wait now
[02:18] <AAA> r0bby_  what client? you have dcc blocked =p
[02:18] <gnomefreak> newbie33: when its done reboot into the newest kernel you have it should be 2.6.12-10 iirc
[02:18] <r0bby_> irssi
[02:19] <AAA> r0bby_  w00. only the best
[02:19] <AAA> and on that note, I will get in my cab
[02:19] <zelexus> hi everyone!
[02:19] <r0bby_> bye
[02:20] <sobbbber> AAA: what is the exact name of the P2P program?
[02:21] <gnomefreak> sobbbber: you mean like limewire or frostwire?
[02:21] <vincenz> Dapper out?
[02:21] <neodreams> nope
[02:21] <gnomefreak> vincenz: its in beta form
[02:21] <gnomefreak> vincenz: wont be out until june 1st
[02:22] <sobbbber> gnomefreak: yes, exactly
[02:22] <vincenz> gnomefreak: thank you
 vincenz: wont be out until june 1st <-- I thought it was May?
[02:23] <Alth> Or at least, that's what shipit said >.>
[02:24] <vincenz> Anyone know what version of ghc will ship in it
[02:24] <gnomefreak> Alth: june 1st
[02:25] <gnomefreak> Alth: you can order from ship-it in may but they wont send them till june 1-2
[02:25] <sobbbber> any p2p program for ubuntu?
[02:25] <BurgerMann> Hi. I have some trouble making my speakers work on my new laptop. Sound card works fine, but no sound comes out. I tried PCLinuxOs and the speakers worked (except for everything else) How can I find the drivers?
[02:25] <gnomefreak> sobbbber: yes those 2
[02:25] <rggjan> Just installed Ubuntu at a friend.
[02:25] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sobbbber about frostwire
[02:25] <cens0red> just upgraded my mainboard, and reinstalled breezy. Now I've got nothing coming out of the soundblaster. Can someone help me figure it out?
[02:25] <rggjan> Everithing worked fine including the network:
[02:25] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sobbbber about limewire
[02:25] <dj-fu> BurgerMann, `lspci|grep -i audio` search for those details on the alsa project websie 
[02:26] <dj-fu> gtk-gnutella > limewire
[02:26] <rggjan> after about 5 minutes or so it stops working
[02:26] <rggjan> until I restart the computer
[02:26] <rggjan> anyone knows, what the problem could be?
[02:27] <elad`> On a system I have a user account in, but no root access, in my home directory, a file owned by someone else (a similarly priviledged user) sits. I want to change its owner and/or permissions. Help?
[02:27] <imperfect-> Anyone know why ubuntu-desktop would depend upon brltty?
[02:27] <dj-fu> so blind people can use terminals.
[02:27] <donza> any news updating firefox to 1.5.0.2 in dapper repos?
[02:27] <we2by> on wi ndows I can transfer files over ssh at 1.8mbytes/sec but on gnome, I only get 400kb/s :\  any sugestion?
[02:28] <sobbbber> gnomefreak: which would u recommend to be better, frostwire or limewire..?
[02:28] <gnomefreak> elad`: right click it go to properties and change it to write if not than you will have to use chmoh
[02:28] <killian> where can i get more repos from?
[02:28] <gnomefreak> sobbbber: i dont use either
[02:28] <sobbbber> oh.
[02:28] <gnomefreak> p2p is usless to me
[02:28] <gnomefreak> chmod even
[02:28] <elad`> gnomefreak: It's 777 right now. I want to make it 705, and, if possible, mine.
[02:28] <levander> donza: packages.ubuntu.com to check
[02:28] <donza> i heard that the update fixes highly critical vulnerabilities
[02:29] <vincenz> where do I find out which packages will ship with dapper
[02:29] <elad`> chown eladalon *
[02:29] <elad`> chown: changing ownership of `allocate_free.c~': Operation not permitted
[02:29] <gnomefreak> elad`: sudo chmod 705 <path/to/file/filename
[02:29] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: updatebrokeff is <reply> If the recent upgrade of the firefox package to 1.0.8 broke your launchers for a manually installed firefox 1.5, you need to do this to fix it: 'sudo ln -sf /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox'
[02:29] <ubotu> okay, tonyyarusso
[02:29] <levander> donza: ubuntu patches the breezy firefoxes with security fixes
[02:29] <elad`> gnomefreak: But I don't have root access. It's my uni's computer.
[02:29] <gnomefreak> elad`: than you are not changing the permissions
[02:29] <mds> I just started messing about with iptables, is there a syslog where I can have failures to connect logged to?
[02:30] <elad`> gnomefreak: Can I delete it?
[02:30] <BurgerMann> dj-fu, but the sound cards work fine, if I use a headset there's lots of sound. Isn't ALSA only the soundcard device ?
[02:30] <donza> levander: and dapper also?
[02:30] <elad`> I can read it, so I can just copy its contents to a file of my own, and delete this one. Would there be any problem with that? Wait, fuck, why don't I just try. Hold tight.
[02:30] <levander> donza: i'm sure they'll do security patches in dapper
[02:30] <gnomefreak> elad`: not sure if its "owned" by sudoer and permissions are for him/her only i doubt it
[02:31] <gnomefreak> elad`: language please
[02:31] <dj-fu> BurgerMann, if you use a headset it works, but if you plug speaker sinto the same jack it doesn't?
[02:31] <BurgerMann> dj-fu, it's a laptop the speakers are embedded
[02:32] <dj-fu> BurgerMann, I see. no idea.
[02:32] <elad`> It worked.
[02:32] <BurgerMann> dj-fu, thx amyway :)
[02:32] <roni87> hi all
[02:33] <philstar> has anyone got the gnome 2.14 live cd to work?
[02:33] <elad`> Well, thanks anyway. Man, it's really silly that I can't just change the permissions of a file when I can obviously do it in a roundabout manner. Why not just have the shell go through all the trouble for me automatically? Or at least offer to?
[02:33] <elad`> I'd add that feature if I could.
[02:33] <levander> elad`: because all that work would make the shell functions complicated and slow
[02:33] <levander> elad`: better to keep it simple
[02:34] <elad`> It's a minor computational hassle, and a major hassle for the user. I'd say that's the perfect candidate for an extra feature./
[02:34] <gnomefreak> if i had to guess there was a reason the person didnt make it r+w for everyone
[02:34] <Frogzoo> elad`: security is always a pain to deal with, but it's necessary
[02:35] <donza> for some reason firefox's own update system doesn't work even with using sudo
[02:36] <_jason> donza: what firefox version?
[02:36] <njan> elad`, security's just a nuisance, just ignore it. :P
[02:36] <donza> _jason: 1.5.0.1 in dapper
[02:36] <Frogzoo> donza: best soln is to chown -R the ff directory to your user & try again, then chmod -R back to root:root when you're done
[02:36] <_jason> donza: #ubuntu+1 for dapper, but I believe that's a purposeful decision
[02:36] <elad`> gnomefreak: The guy is me, working from his account.
[02:36] <bina> how do you configure KDE to use two monitors (I've not decided whether to use two cards or just the two heads on the same card).  I tried it with two cards this morning but the monitor kept saying no signal for one of them
[02:37] <elad`> gnomefreak: Was, that is.
[02:37] <dg_w> afternoon all
[02:37] <donza> _jason: ah.. ok.. i didnt know that
[02:37] <orbin> is ff1.0.8 from the repos equivalent to ff1.5.0.2?
[02:37] <gnomefreak> donza: the ff updater is nto used in dapper
[02:37] <donza> Frogzoo: i'll try that
[02:38] <Frogzoo> bina: do you have an ATI card?
[02:38] <gnomefreak> orbin: no 2 different engines
[02:38] <gnomefreak> sort of
[02:38] <bina> Frogzoo: yeah, Radeon 9550
[02:38] <donza> gnomefreak: ok, thanks
[02:38] <jenda> where can i find a list of ubuntu supported languages?
[02:38] <orbin> gnomefreak: really?  so it's not just ff packaged for ubuntu? :-/
[02:38] <gnomefreak> donza: update your ff using sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:38] <[Wiebel] > hmz
[02:38] <Pulgoki> does anyone know if its still possible to get quake 3 for linux?
[02:38] <[Wiebel] > how do i tell totem to support mp3 en mpeg en wma and stuff?
[02:38] <gnomefreak> orbin: 1.5 has nothing to do with 1.0.anything
[02:39] <_jason> ubotu: tell [Wiebel]  about multimedia
[02:39] <orbin> gnomefreak: i see. thanks
[02:39] <[Wiebel] > thanks
[02:39] <_jason> ubotu: tell [Wiebel]  about mp3
[02:39] <jenda> !languages
[02:39] <ubotu> I guess languages is found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&value=languages&titlesearch=Titles
[02:39] <bina> Frogzoo: the other card was an old matrox mystique in PCI (radeon was in AGP).  There was power to the Radeon but nothing on the screen, so i took the mystique out and tried again and the radeon worked
[02:40] <Frogzoo> bina: install fglrx-control   & then try using fireglcontrolpanel
[02:40] <bina> Frogzoo: sweet I'll try that. Thanks
[02:40] <kickfacce> can someone tell me how to change what sound card is being used for xmms?
[02:40] <unixssh> c mai facetzi?
[02:40] <bina> Frogzoo: Do you know whether I can use a DVI to VGA converter for use on a TFT screen, or does that only work with LCD
[02:41] <robinl1> how to get my Logitech S-510 to work with Ubuntu?
[02:41] <Frogzoo> Pulgoki: check winehq's appdb  -> winehq.org
[02:41] <kickfacce> can someone tell me how to change what sound card is being used for xmms?
[02:41] <Pulgoki> Frogzoo: isnt there a linux version?
[02:41] <roni87> alsaconf
[02:41] <Pulgoki> or at least used to be
[02:41] <Pulgoki> :|
[02:41] <unixssh> are u gay?
[02:41] <kickfacce> roni87, xmms says that it isn't configured properly etc.. but vlc works fine
[02:42] <gnomefreak> unixssh: take that somewhere else please
[02:42] <caligula> hello
[02:42] <roni87> vlc ?? wat is that ?
[02:42] <cafuego> !info vlc
[02:42] <Frogzoo> Pulgoki: well then clearly there's your answer
[02:42] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[02:42] <kickfacce> roni87, nevermind i figured it out
[02:43] <caligula> Can anyone help me on the bloody wireless stuff?
[02:43] <unixssh> microsoft rulzzz...lnx suckssss!!!
[02:43] <Pulgoki> Frogzoo: where? ive been looking and can find info and talk of q3 for linux but cant find where to purchase it.
[02:43] <Hobbsee> unixssh: is that necessary?
[02:43] <Frogzoo> Pulgoki: no idea
[02:43] <Pulgoki> me neither
[02:43] <Pulgoki> :p
[02:43] <Pulgoki> i'll do more research
[02:43] <Pulgoki> i havent installed wine yet
[02:43] <Pulgoki> i may do that soon anyway
[02:43] <kickfacce> anyone have any idea why my monitor goes into power save while playing doom 3, quake 3, or quake 4 after 5 or 10 mins of play?
[02:44] <robinl1> how to get my Logitech S-510 to work with Ubuntu?
[02:44] <unixssh> was a joke man!
[02:44] <unixssh> bye
[02:44] <caligula> hello?
[02:44] <caligula> anybody?
[02:44] <robinl1> how to get my Logitech S-510 to work with Ubuntu? (keyboard)
[02:44] <Hobbsee> caligula: hi
[02:44] <gnomefreak> !anybody
[02:44] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[02:44] <lflashl> is there a search engine for apt-get to look up program that i want to install with apt-get
[02:44] <damian_> any idea, when i try and compile php (not using apt) it'll give me an error about mysqllibs not being there (used apt-get to install all mysql packages) ?
[02:45] <Hobbsee> !tell caligula about wifi
[02:45] <Hobbsee> !tell caligula about wireless
[02:45] <caligula> thanks...
[02:45] <gnomefreak> lflashl: apt-cache search app
[02:45] <gnomefreak> replace app with what your looking for
[02:45] <gnomefreak> lflashl: for a general look up use synaptic
[02:46] <lflashl> how do i get into synaptic
[02:46] <kickfacce> anyone have any idea why my monitor goes into power save while playing doom 3, quake 3, or quake 4 after 5 or 10 mins of play?
[02:46] <sobbbber> hi. i have downloaded FrostWire-4.10.9-1.i586.deb
[02:47] <sobbbber> .. what should i do next?
[02:47] <orbin> robinl1: search the forum while you wait.  average chances really of finding someone in here w/ the exact same k/board
[02:47] <ph8> hey guys, i've done this manual install of firefox (as per the wiki) but now it wants to update the package, is there a way i can make it ignore all new firefox packages?
[02:47] <fliegenderfrosch> lflashl, either with "synaptic" in the console or in the system-menu
[02:48] <Frogzoo_away> !tell sobbbber about frostwire
[02:48] <imbrandon> lflashl: "sudo synaptic"
[02:48] <tekN1x> sobbbber: dpkg -i application.deb
[02:48] <gnomefreak> sobbbber: sudo dpkg -i frost<tab>
[02:48] <jenda> where can i find a list of ubuntu supported languages?
[02:48] <caligula> froswire is not working for me too
[02:48] <kickfacce> anyone here at all play doom 3 or any id software games on breezy?
[02:48] <caligula> *frostwire
[02:48] <gnomefreak> imbrandon: lflashl no dont use sudo synaptic
[02:48] <caligula> I'm not using wine
[02:48] <Frogzoo_away> !tell caligula about frostwire
[02:49] <robinl1> orbin: i did, no answers
[02:49] <gnomefreak> imbrandon: lflashl to open synaptic use the menu entry if you _must_ from shell use gksudo
[02:49] <imbrandon> for frostwire after you install the deb you need to edit the runFrost.sh and change it from dos format to unix
[02:49] <robinl1> orbin: people requested answer, but nobody answered to their posts
[02:49] <orbin> kickfacce: don't know why it's happening, but check screensaver prefs
[02:49] <Frogzoo_away> !tell imbrandon about frostwire
[02:49] <arrick> morning everyone
[02:49] <orbin> kickfacce: particularly the power stuff
[02:49] <robinl1> orbin: how to get extra keyboard keys to work on ubuntu?
[02:49] <Frogzoo_away> mornit arrick
[02:49] <kickfacce> orbin, have done that same issue its not power save.. its just black in general i turned power save off on my monitor etc..
[02:49] <arrick> where is the Perl executable located?
[02:49] <Frogzoo_away> !bindkeys
[02:49] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Frogzoo_away
[02:49] <gnomefreak> iirc Frostewire is in deb form meaning it wont run on dos
[02:50] <Frogzoo_away> !bindkey
[02:50] <imbrandon> gnomefreak: and the diffrentce between sudo synaptic and gksu snaptic is?
[02:50] <ubotu> Frogzoo_away: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:50] <_jason> arrick: 'which perl'
[02:50] <gnomefreak> !gksudo
[02:50] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[02:50] <imbrandon> that dosent mean sudo wont work or isnt good
[02:50] <Frogzoo_away> !keybinding
[02:50] <ubotu> from memory, keybinding is console command  "gnome-keybinding-properties"    Need more info  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MultimediaKeys
[02:50] <kickfacce> !doom3
[02:50] <ubotu> kickfacce: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:50] <kickfacce> !gaming
[02:50] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kickfacce
[02:50] <orbin> ta Frogzoo
[02:50] <arrick> _jason, I am writing a script and it uses the "perl exeutable" on the webserver
[02:51] <gnomefreak> imbrandon: can scramble you user account permissions is a very very bad thing
[02:51] <orbin> kickfacce: /msg bot please if you're just "fishing"
[02:51] <orbin> s/bot/ubotu
[02:51] <_jason> arrick: 'which perl' will give you the full path to the perl executable
[02:51] <imbrandon> umm that bug was fixed LONG ago gnomefreak
[02:51] <arrick> thanks
[02:51] <Polypterus> Hi. I've installed several new login manager themes, but none of them work. I get the message that they've crashed. Anyone know why this is happening?
[02:52] <gnomefreak> imbrandon: best for you i think to read up on rootsudo
[02:52] <elektronaut> what's a decent mail handler package for an ubuntu server? i need individual accounts for multiple domains
[02:52] <ph8> hey guys, i've done this manual install of firefox (as per the wiki) but now it wants to update the package, is there a way i can make it ignore all new firefox packages?
[02:52] <kickfacce> orbin, could it be something to do with the nvidia drivers i have installed? i read something about others having issues on ubuntu similar
[02:52] <arrick> _jason, how about the "sendmail" binary? or apaches version of it?
[02:52] <sobbbber> how will i use dos2unix command?
[02:52] <Pulgoki> is there a command to show all installed packages?
[02:52] <_jason> arrick: same
[02:52] <gnomefreak> sobbbber: if its a .deb why would you need to?
[02:52] <arrick> ok thanks
[02:52] <_jason> Pulgoki: dpkg -l
[02:52] <Pulgoki> thanks
[02:52] <ph8> elektronaut: I'd recommend postfix
[02:52] <Hektik_exile> hello\
[02:53] <imbrandon> and by the way i know that debs dont work in dos mode but if you have been folling frostwire the deb has a bug in it, the runFrost.sh file is in DOS mode ( cr/lf ) and needs to be converted after the deb is installed
[02:53] <orbin> kickfacce: possibly.  i'm neither an nvidia owner nor a linux gamer, so i doubt i could help you. sorry
[02:53] <ConfidentiaL> is it possible to play windows games on ubuntu?
[02:53] <kickfacce> orbin, any ideas of channels i could get help in specific gaming on ubuntu?
[02:53] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ConfidentiaL about cedega
[02:53] <KNA> Hello al . Im kinda new to linux but have got everything setup what i need but cant find out how to setp my wireless device . coud anyone maybe MSG me ? seems to be mutch activety in channel . hard to follow .
[02:54] <Frogzoo_away> ConfidentiaL: use wine
[02:54] <gnomefreak> kickfacce: depends on what the help is
[02:54] <elektronaut> ph8: great, thanks
[02:54] <imbrandon> sobbbber: nano the runFrost.sh and hit ctl + o then ctl + d and save the file, that will do the same thing as dos2unix
[02:54] <Polypterus> I've installed several new login manager themes, but none of them work. I get the message that they've crashed. Anyone know why this is happening?
[02:54] <gnomefreak> Linux_Junkie: looking for help on beating it use ubuntu-offtopic
[02:54] <Polypterus> Using breezy badger
[02:54] <kickfacce> gnomefreak, well when i play any 3d games my monitor goes black about 10 mins in a game
[02:54] <arrick> _jason, I get no sendmail, or even mail location, does that mean I dont have it?
[02:54] <orbin> kickfacce: forum section on gaming is a good bet
[02:54] <Hektik_exile> Ubuntu 5.10 stops while I'm loading the live disc on a Turion64 laptop... can anyone help me?
[02:54] <kickfacce> orbin, i hae googled for like 3 days etc.. no luck
[02:55] <gnomefreak> kickfacce: is your 3d working?
[02:55] <orbin> kickfacce: i meant ubuntuforums.org
[02:55] <kickfacce> gnomefreak, yes it works fine but... 5 - 10mins in the game it goes black
[02:55] <orbin> Polypterus: how'd you install the themes?
[02:56] <_jason> arrick: is 'postfix' installed?
[02:56] <KNA> Hello al . Im kinda new to linux but have got everything setup what i need but cant find out how to setp my wireless device . coud anyone maybe MSG me ? seems to be mutch activety in channel . hard to follow .
[02:56] <gnomefreak> Linux_Junkie: i meant did you install the 3d drivers for your card and is the fps in a good range and do you have direct rendering
[02:56] <Polypterus> orbin: I download themes and install them with the gdm
[02:56] <arrick> _jason, I dont know, do I check that the same way>?
[02:56] <kickfacce> KNA, look into ndiswrapper
[02:56] <_jason> arrick: apt-cache policy postfix
[02:56] <KNA> kickface . what ?
[02:56] <orbin> Polypterus: via the login screen setup utility?
[02:56] <Hektik_exile> sorry to repeat myself
[02:56] <arrick> _jason, its installed
[02:56] <Hektik_exile> Ubuntu 5.10 stops while I'm loading the live disc on a Turion64 laptop... can anyone help me?
[02:57] <Polypterus> orbin: yep
[02:57] <kickfacce> KNA, google about ndiswrapper
[02:57] <gnomefreak> kickfacce: that was for you not Linux_Junkie
[02:57] <KNA> ok
[02:57] <orbin> Polypterus: when does it tell you they crash?
[02:57] <ConfidentiaL> what do you think is better for a server ubuntu or debian?
[02:57] <kickfacce> gnomefreak, its all installed and the fps is great
[02:57] <_jason> arrick: hmm that's what gives me sendmail on my system... 'which sendmail' turns up nothing though?  apt-cache search sendmail does turn up a few things, but I'm not really familiar with it to give you any good advice
[02:57] <Polypterus> orbin: when I log out or try to log in
[02:58] <KNA> kickface thanks
[02:58] <tekN1x> KNA: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/
[02:58] <arrick> _jason, webmin-sendmail maybe?
[02:59] <kickfacce> gnomefreak, i used the 3rd party nvidia drivers to install my stuff... with apt-get
[02:59] <vincenz> Funky
[02:59] <vincenz> How do I allow people to run background processes?
[02:59] <vincenz> I run a background process
[02:59] <vincenz> and for some reason I can't log out from that account
[02:59] <orbin> Polypterus: is it just certain themes or all the ones you installed?
[03:00] <tekN1x> vincenz: can you explain more?
[03:00] <_jason> arrick: I don't want to give you advice I'm not sure about, try asking the channel about it
[03:00] <Polypterus> orbin: all the ones I've installed. All I did was follow the instructions from the ubuntu forums
[03:00] <vincenz> tekN1x: well I log into my desktop form my laptop with a new user account.  I do ./lambdabot & (an ircbot)... I do CTRL+D (logout).... and it won't log out
[03:00] <arrick> Anyone: what is the ubuntu/apache2 version of sendmail?
[03:00] <bart> what's the easiest way to restrict users to their home dir?
[03:00] <ConfidentiaL> damn, debian is frustratingly difficult :S im switching back to ubuntu...
[03:00] <ConfidentiaL> :P
[03:00] <KNA> kickfacce this means with this tools i can use the windows device driver ?
[03:01] <kickfacce> KNA, yeah
[03:01] <orbin> Polypterus: hmm, don't know to be honest.  but it certainly shouldn't be doing that... :-/
[03:01] <KNA> not to good in english and theese spesial words . ok thanks
[03:01] <KNA> will give it try
[03:01] <tekN1x> bart: a 'jail.'
[03:02] <vincenz> tekN1x: If I manually close the terminal where I'm sshed... it kills the bot
[03:02] <Polypterus> orbin: where are the default themes located btw?
[03:02] <tekN1x> vincenz: does the process start in the background or is it actually going to console?
[03:02] <Polypterus> orbin: maybe I have to put the new ones there as well, strange as it sounds
[03:02] <vincenz> tekN1x: it still goes to console
[03:02] <tekN1x> vincenz: try ./lambdabot -b
[03:02] <kickfacce> KNA, you can do a sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[03:02] <vincenz> tekN1x: -b??
[03:03] <Pulgoki> uh oh, i have a problem. somehow i named a file "-a" and now when i try to delete it or change the name it tells me in using an invalid argument
[03:03] <tekN1x> vincenz: to force it to goto background.
[03:03] <kickfacce> KNA, its a graphical tool of which you're looking at :P
[03:03] <Pulgoki> any clue how to solve this problem?
[03:03] <KNA> fuckfacce : 500 - Internal Server Error ! when trying to download from source
[03:03] <vincenz> tekN1x: erm... won't that pass the parameter to the program?
[03:03] <jk-> hi all.
[03:03] <ph8> hey guys, i've done this manual install of firefox (as per the wiki) but now it wants to update the package, is there a way i can make it ignore all new firefox packages?
[03:03] <Rhasta> Pulgoki, escape it
[03:03] <Rhasta> rm \-a
[03:03] <Pulgoki> ahh
[03:03] <Pulgoki> ok
[03:03] <kickfacce> KNA, just enable universal repositories and run this command sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[03:03] <Pulgoki> i'll try taht
[03:03] <jk-> anyone using gtkpod on powerpc ?
[03:04] <orbin> Polypterus: just to confirm, you installed via: sys > admin > login screen setup > themd greeter tab > install new tab right?
[03:04] <KNA> workds sorry
[03:04] <mds> I just started messing about with iptables, is there a syslog where I can have failures to connect logged to?
[03:04] <Pulgoki> Rhasta: that was so easy it made me feel stupid
[03:04] <Pulgoki> :|
[03:04] <jk-> mds: iptables .. -j LOG
[03:04] <Alth> Noob question - how do I see process ids in a terminal?
[03:04] <Polypterus> orbin: yes
[03:04] <Rhasta> Alth, ps
[03:04] <tekN1x> vincenz: Yes. You'll have to make the process start in the background before you regain access to the console.
[03:04] <jk-> will log to /var/log/messages
[03:04] <kickfacce> Alth, ps -aux
[03:05] <Rhasta> possibly ps -ea if you want to see everything
[03:05] <KNA> cant download it crap :(
[03:05] <Alth> Ta :)
[03:05] <KNA> universal repositories ?
[03:05] <mds> cool nuff jk-, just enter that at a prompt or is it a line I need to add to each rule?
[03:05] <vincenz> tekN1x: I knwo
[03:05] <tekN1x> vincenz: Unless I've totally misunderstood your question.
[03:05] <jk-> you need to have rules to log packets
[03:05] <kickfacce> !tell KNA about repositories
[03:05] <jk-> (separate)
[03:05] <vincenz> tekN1x: I start my bot "./lambdabot --online &"
[03:05] <vincenz> tekN1x: it runs in background
[03:06] <vincenz> tekN1x: but when I do logout
[03:06] <KNA> hmm
[03:06] <vincenz> tekN1x: it won't logout, it hangs at logout process
[03:06] <vincenz> until the bot is finally killed
[03:06] <martyv> Pulgoki, ls -i will show you the inode of the file
[03:06] <mds> thanks jk- .  :)
[03:06] <orbin> Polypterus: /usr/share/gdm/themes
[03:06] <Polypterus> orbin: thanks!
[03:07] <kickfacce> sure wish someone could help me with my problem or point me to a channel that can help
[03:07] <Polypterus> orbin: the new themes are there though
[03:07] <Pulgoki> martyv: what is an inode?
[03:07] <Trewas> is there some easy and permanent way to disable ipv6 (in current dapper)?
[03:07] <orbin> Polypterus: like i said, dunno tbh
[03:08] <ph8> surely someone knows how to get apt to ignore certain package patterns?
[03:08] <jeff_hann> Trewas:why do you want to do this?
[03:08] <sobbbber> i have installed frostwire, it appears in the menu but when i click on it, it doesn't start.. what should i do?
[03:08] <Polypterus> orbin: that's ok. thanks
[03:08] <martyv> Pulgoki, the easiest way is "rm ./-a"  . The inode is the actual identifier of the file
[03:08] <sobbbber> !tell jre
[03:09] <IceTox> Hey! I'm trying to start a task at my computer via ssh. But it doesn't work. I get this message --- > "Application Initialization failed: no display name and no $DISPLAY environment variable" What does it mean?
[03:09] <Pulgoki> martyv: thats what it did, rm ~/-a
[03:09] <martyv> Pulgoki, di "ls -l ./-a" first if you need to check
[03:09] <arrick>  anyone, I am in the process of using http://www.thesitewizard.com/wizards/feedbackform.shtml?r=533645477X1145536934 to generate a custom perl feedback form and it is asking for the location of the "sendmail binary, anyone have any suggestion as to finding it, or obtining it?
[03:09] <pax> Pulgoki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inode
[03:09] <orbin> IceTox: it means it's an X application iirc
[03:09] <Pulgoki> i know that the file was , i just named it -a on accident
[03:09] <IceTox> orbin, you can't start that via ssh?
[03:09] <mjr> Trewas, edit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases , search/replace ipv6 with off
[03:10] <KNA> fuckfacce i have activated it
[03:10] <KNA> run
[03:10] <sobbbber> !tell sobbbber jre
[03:10] <martyv> Pulgoki,  i just tested "rm ./-a" and it works
[03:10] <KNA> sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[03:10] <KNA> where
[03:10] <KNA> hehe'
[03:10] <Trewas> jeff_hann: ipv6 seems to confuse my adsl-router greatly, and it seems to get only (non-working) ipv6 on boot even on work network
[03:10] <orbin> IceTox: well, X apps don't really work too well in console.  at least afaik
[03:11] <kickfacce> can i update my kernel and get the source for it preferably to 2.6
[03:12] <Trewas> mjr: doesn't that get (optionally) overwritten in updates? I was interested also in that permanent part :)
[03:12] <Doat> when i open Sound from the Preferences menu it just opens a blank window that hangs up. what's wrong?
[03:12] <sobbbber> i forgot.. whre can i find the information regarding installing java in ubuntu?
[03:12] <orbin> kickfacce: ubuntu ships w/ a 2.6 kernel :-/
[03:12] <orbin> kickfacce: uname -r
[03:12] <kickfacce> orbin, uname -r
[03:12] <kickfacce> give
[03:12] <jeff_hann> Trewas:mjr advised well,but i dunno if that will solve your probs
[03:12] <vincenz> How do I allow a user to run background processes even after he logs out??
[03:12] <orbin> ubotu: tell sobbbber about java
[03:12] <gormi456> hi all
[03:12] <kickfacce> orbin, bleh sorry thinking oldly hehe can i get the source then?
[03:13] <martyv> vincenz, use "screen"
[03:13] <vincenz> martyv: without screen
[03:13] <vincenz> martyv: it's a background process
[03:13] <orbin> kickfacce: search for linux source and get the relevant one
[03:13] <gormi456> i need a little help from someone who has php4 installed, but not configured for mail
[03:13] <martyv> vincenz, nohup
[03:13] <vincenz> nohup?
[03:13] <orbin> kickfacce: in synaptic/other apt tool i mean
[03:13] <Trewas> jeff_hann: the easiest way seems to be just rm -rf /lib/modules/*/kernel/net/ipv6 but even that has to be run again after kernel upgrade
[03:13] <vincenz> martyv: thank you
[03:14] <martyv> vincenz, no hang up - old school before screen
[03:14] <vincenz> martyv: how come my other user doesn't need this
[03:14] <glimp> helo how could i use my newly installed hard disk
[03:14] <vincenz> martyv: my primary user
[03:14] <martyv> vincenz, how do you mean
[03:14] <Trewas> jeff_hann: network of course works fine after that
[03:14] <vincenz> martyv: well if I log in as vincenz onto my desktop and run the lambdabot &, it's fine
[03:14] <vincenz> martyv: but with the new user "icfp" I need to do 'nohup ./lambdabot &'
[03:14] <kickfacce> orbin, gay it doesn't have mine i have 2.6.12-10
[03:15] <kgoetz> anyone remember where the info on reenabling ubuntus printer sharing is?
[03:15] <Doat> when i open Sound from the Preferences menu it just opens a blank window that hangs up. what's wrong?
[03:15] <glimp> helo how could i use my newly installed hard disk?
[03:15] <orbin> kickfacce: so get the linux-source-2.6.12 package
[03:15] <kickfacce> orbin, found it :D
[03:15] <vincenz> martyv: it's still killing it
[03:15] <jeff_hann> Trewas:it's a pretty odd problem;kernel upgrades aren't that often
[03:15] <vincenz> martyv: does the user need special perms?
[03:15] <kgoetz> glimp, how do you want to use it?
[03:16] <lowfi> glimp, install ubuntu on it, :)
[03:16] <martyv> vincenz, i would have thought if you run any process in a X terminal and then logout the process will be killed, unless you spawn it as a daemon
[03:16] <joachim-n> I cna't use bug buddy on breezy -- where's sendmail?
[03:16] <glimp> as an extra space i have my ubuntu on another disk
[03:16] <gormi456> in /usr/sbin/sendmail
[03:16] <kickfacce> orbin, i think i know my issue which is the gay ass nvidia drivers that are supplied in the 3rd party repositories
[03:16] <gormi456> normally
[03:16] <Trewas> jeff_hann: ipv6 related problems seem to be quite common in ubuntu, some googling shows... which is why I thought the new release might have some easier option to disable it
[03:17] <orbin> Doat: what happens when you run: gnome-sound-properties in a terminal?
[03:17] <itdep> op
[03:17] <Doat> orbin, nothing
[03:17] <orbin> kickfacce: that's nice.  ease up on the gay-bashing though....
[03:17] <Doat> or it hangs up as well
[03:17] <arrick>  anyone, I am in the process of using http://www.thesitewizard.com/wizards/feedbackform.shtml?r=533645477X1145536934 to generate a custom perl feedback form and it is asking for the location of the "sendmail binary, anyone have any suggestion as to finding it, or obtining it?
[03:17] <arrick> Ill be back
[03:17] <kickfacce> orbin, no i will say gay as much as i want!!!!!!!!
[03:17] <orbin> Doat: no errors?  does it quit?
[03:18] <sobbbber> hi.  i have installed frostwire, it appears in the menu but when i click on it, it doesn't start.. what should i do?
[03:18] <Doat> orbin, no. i have to ctrl+c it
[03:18] <gormi456> arrick> by default it is in /usr/sbin/sendmail
[03:18] <thoreauputic> kickfacce: I suggest that you don't
[03:18] <jeff_hann> Trewas:what problems?
[03:18] <kgoetz> glimp, run 'mkfs.ext3' on it, then mount it into /mnt
[03:18] <orbin> lol
[03:18] <kickfacce> thoreauputic, don't be lame
[03:19] <itdep> gays i have a problem weed my computer
[03:19] <arrick> gormi456, and if its not there, you dont have it right?
[03:19] <orbin> Doat: so nothing shows up?
[03:19] <thoreauputic> sorry, I'll lift that when you get a clue
[03:19] <Doat> orbin, nope
[03:19] <vincenz> grr
[03:19] <vincenz> nohup ain't working
[03:19] <gormi456> glimp> or  mkfs.reiserfs
[03:19] <Trewas> jeff_hann: mainly related to dns queries working very slowly or not at all (which is the case behind my adsl-router if the host to be queried has an ipv6 address)
[03:19] <glimp> but i can't browse it kgoetz, when i run disk manager i can't enable it i formatted it as ext 3
[03:19] <gormi456> arrick i think yes
[03:19] <gormi456> apt-get install postfix will install it i think
[03:19] <mischa> hi there all
[03:19] <kgoetz> glimp, 'cant browse it' meaning 'its nto mounted into the filesystem'?
[03:20] <arrick> gormi456, thats already installed
[03:20] <glimp> yeah i think
[03:20] <jeff_hann> Trewas:isn't there a bugfix fot that?
[03:20] <glimp> how could i mount it?
[03:20] <gormi456> find / -name sendmail 2>/dev/null
[03:20] <saik0> How would i get what hdb1 is to grub...it's not hd (0,1)
[03:20] <kgoetz> glimp, so try running `mount /dev/hdsomething /mnt`
[03:20] <gormi456> u can try it
[03:20] <kgoetz> er. sudo mount
[03:20] <mischa> i upgrade firefox this morning to 1.0.8 as the autoupdate adviced...
[03:20] <glimp> okay i'll try it thanks
[03:20] <Trewas> jeff_hann: yes, the bugfix is to disable ipv6 :)
[03:20] <mischa> and now XMLHttpRequest is not working anymore....
[03:21] <jeff_hann> :))
[03:21] <kgoetz> gormi456, locate might be faster
[03:21] <Doat> orbin, any ideas?
[03:21] <agliv5> ompaul still there?
[03:21] <saik0> oops, i meant hf(1,0)
[03:21] <gormi456> kgoetz> yeah... but im not used to it
[03:21] <kickfacce> thoreauputic, why thanks
[03:21] <orbin> Doat: not really unfortunately...
[03:21] <martyv> vincenz, what does lambdadot do ?
[03:21] <thoreauputic> kickfacce: I suggest that you reconsider your behaviour
[03:21] <kgoetz> gormi456, locate file. or for a binary, `whereis binary`
[03:21] <kickfacce> thoreauputic, its not behavior its words
[03:22] <martyv> does it expect input from the terminal? cause bash will remove the stdin file descriptor
[03:22] <gormi456> kgoetz> i'll try it
[03:22] <thoreauputic> kickfacce: I won't argue the point - next infraction gets you removed
[03:22] <gormi456> arrick> it found it ?
[03:22] <glimp> @kgoetz thanks i got it, i can now browse it
[03:22] <Doat> orbin, lol! i had gnome-sound-properties running in console for like 5 minutes and now it opened a window
[03:23] <kickfacce> thoreauputic, you act like you're very powerful being an operator of a channel
[03:23] <arrick> gormi456, permission denied even with sudo
[03:23] <mischa> are there know isseus with firefox 1.0.8 concerning  XMLHttpRequest???
[03:23] <agliv5> I'm booting from a LiveCD, how can I list my hard drives?
[03:23] <tekN1x> martyv: it's just an IRC bot.
[03:23] <Hobbsee> kickfacce: he wouldnt be the only person to boot you, dont worry
[03:23] <kgoetz> glimp, cool. well done
[03:23] <Doat> orbin, Users and Groups window also starts *slowly*
[03:23] <arrick> gormi456, now I typed it in right, but it didnt find anything
[03:23] <orbin> Doat: slow computer? :)
[03:23] <mohanram> will xgl work on a 128MB ATi card?
[03:23] <martyv> does it quit if there is no input?
[03:24] <Doat> orbin, no. athlon 2600+
[03:24] <gormi456> arrick> hum
[03:24] <orbin> agliv5: sys>admin disks, or: sudo fdisk -l
[03:24] <arrick> gormi456, I'll be back in about an hour, if you here then will ask you for more help thanks.
[03:24] <gormi456> arrick> i'll search a litte
[03:24] <agliv5> orbin Thanks :)
[03:24] <gormi456> ok
[03:24] <arrick> thank you gormi456
[03:24] <tekN1x> martyv: His problem was it was hanging @ the console after going into the background. . .I can't find nothing on that, tho.
[03:24] <StarQuake> is it true that with recent upgrade xgl won't work anymore?
[03:25] <Hobbsee> thoreauputic: darn!  he left!  i was looking forward to 2 bans in about 10 mins...
[03:25] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: heh
[03:26] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: some people don't seem to understand why words can be offensive
[03:26] <Hobbsee> thoreauputic: no, it seems not.
[03:26] <martyv> tekN1x, seems like it might be to do with the way it handles tty. i would stick with screen if it works :-)
[03:28] <agliv5> I thought you could mount a hd from a liveCD using su mount /dev/hda5 /some directory previously created...  But it's not working...
[03:29] <agliv5> unknow id
[03:29] <kgoetz> agliv5, run 'cat /proc/partitions ;to make sure your partitions are what you think
[03:29] <orbin> agliv5: what filesystem?
[03:29] <martyv> agliv5, or fdisk -l /dev/hda
[03:29] <agliv5> orbin NTFS
[03:30] <agliv5> I identified my HDs via fdisk -l
[03:30] <agliv5> let me grab my laptop and I'll be right back...
[03:30] <orbin> agliv5: sys>help>startguide>windowsdrives
[03:31] <orbin> or consult: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:31] <agliv5> ok I'll look into the wiki
[03:33] <cens0red> where do I set up the j2sdk in the PATH, and the JAVA_HOME variable? I tried .bash_profile, and /etc/profile. Didn't work.
[03:33] <Danamania> I don't know where else to say it, but I'm awfully impressed with ubuntu 6.06 - it's the first linux install I've tried that detects and uses correctly all the hardware I use on my iMac first go without a bucketload of screwing around. 3 cheers for that :D.
[03:33] <Frogzoo> cens0red: .gnomerc
[03:33] <fanchette> HI. can somebody help with sound? (aplay -l lists no device)
[03:33] <Alth> Danamania - I'm impressed with the same thing for my Breezy install :P
[03:34] <Hobbsee> !tell fanchette about sound
[03:34] <fanchette> i tried the wiki already, without success
[03:34] <cens0red> Frogzoo can't locate .gnomerc
[03:34] <orbin> kgoetz: what do we look for?  b/c that just confuses me :-/
[03:34] <Danamania> Alth: Breezy was quite close for me, but not all there - it was enough for me to give dapper a go though.
[03:35] <Frogzoo> cens0red: cos it doesn't exist yet
[03:35] <Baner> Hello, who can help with bnc and oidentd support? plz i want to make oidentd make ident from users ident on bnc, not the ident from the user who launched bnc server
[03:35] <Alth> Danamania - I'm passing on Dapper until it's stable for my laptop :P
[03:35] <Danamania> that makes sense
[03:35] <Frogzoo> Alth: I agree - some data can't be trusted to a beta release
[03:36] <cens0red> Frogzoo thanks for the help.
[03:36] <Frogzoo> cheers cens0red, yw
[03:37] <Alth> But as soon as it goes 'gold', so to speak, Dapper is on and Breezy is gone :P
[03:37] <Frogzoo> Alth: dunno, breezy already does everything I need - so I'm not upgrading until I can see a need to
[03:38] <orbin> Alth: same here. can't wait.
[03:38] <Alth> Frogzoo: But I'm excited about some stuff in Dapper, and I like to say I'm on the cutting edge ... of stability ... :P
[03:39] <Hobbsee> Alth: of stability?  what stability?
[03:39] <Alth> Wow, FrostWire looks EXACTLY like LW...but prettier =o
 Alth: of stability?  what stability? <-- Breezy is stable for me. I won't be using Dapper till it's also stable ;)
[03:39] <Hobbsee> Alth: oh...i thought you were refering to dapper as stable
[03:39] <Frogzoo> Alth: that's because it's the same code...
[03:40] <Alth> Hobbsee: I figured that's what you thought :P
[03:40] <Alth> Frogzoo: Sorry, what?
[03:40] <Frogzoo> Alth: Frostwire is a 'preemptive' fork
[03:41] <Dutchy> Can I safely update the old firefox without making it the default again, instead of the manually installed ff1.5? I dont want to pay attention to what programs are updated every time, today it showed there was an update for firefox
 Alth: Frostwire is a 'preemptive' fork <-- Oh, sorry, I thought you meant Dapper >.>
[03:41] <Dutchy> or do i have to make it the default again same as when i isntalled 1.5?
[03:42] <Alth> Frogzoo: Define preemptive fork?
[03:42] <Hobbsee> Dutchy: ah...try it.
[03:42] <orbin> anyone _really_ familiar w/ xmms?  where does it look for fonts exactly?  i'm ont seeing the 'sans' font or other familiar ones.
[03:42] <Frogzoo> Alth: Limewire have suggested introducing some kind of licensing checks, when/if that happens, the Limewire & Frostwire code will fork
[03:42] <Dutchy> i guess :>
[03:42] <Hobbsee> i would assume it gets overwritten, but i'm guessing
[03:43] <Dutchy> kind of annoying that breezy doesnt have 1.5 yet :|
[03:44] <Alth> Frogzoo: Sorry, noob, let's try again...define fork? :P
[03:44] <zeeble> Alth: hey
[03:44] <Frogzoo> Dutchy: it never will - but you still can install it yourself
[03:44] <Alth> *I'm stating that I'm a noob, not calling you one*
[03:44] <Alth> zeeble!
[03:44] <Alth> Holy hell.
[03:44] <Dutchy> yeah i did Frogzoo :)
[03:44] <zeeble> hey, no jumping me here.
[03:45] <Alth> Awww Zeeble, whyever not? :P
[03:45] <Alth> I didn't know you were a linux user Z =o
[03:45] <Frogzoo> Alth: fork is when some of the people in a project tell the others to 'fork off', so the code 'forks' - from there, it becomes 2 projects, and the code bases diverge
[03:45] <Alth> *grins at 'fork off'*
[03:45] <zeeble> Alth: do a /nickserv info zeeble
[03:46] <Alth> Right, thanks for clearing that up for me FZ :)
[03:46] <Frogzoo> Dutchy: now install Reveal - it should be part of the base 1.5 imo
[03:46] <Alth> The info shows nothing useful, but your whois shows that you're on two linux channels. Is that what you meant? :P
[03:47] <TraceGreen> Hello, does any try to patch ndevfs to kernel?
[03:47] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: hi i did it 0.8.0 is installed
[03:47] <zeeble> Alth: blah. well, too bad you didn't know i used linux. maybe cos i didn't shout about it like noblearc :D
[03:48] <Dutchy> Frogzoo, reveal? never heard of it... program or FF extension?
[03:48] <Alth> Noble never mentioned it :P
[03:48] <zeeble> ah, ok.
[03:48] <agliv5> I figured out that you can change the partitions table using fdisk, but how do I format an existing partition to a diffrent datasystem?
[03:49] <zeeble> Alth: good. your chose well.
[03:49] <LadyVix> any ideas... I upgraded to Breezy last night.... and i still dont have any sound
[03:49] <Hobbsee> agliv5: man cfdisk
[03:49] <Alth> Thanks zeebs. Ubuntu is great :D
[03:49] <zeeble> What sound card do you have?
[03:50] <Hobbsee> agliv5: scroll down to where it talks about -t
[03:50] <intuos3> hi, where can i read about mounting a usb disk (400Gb inside an enclosure)? i can't find mine on /dev/sda.
[03:50] <orbin> Alth: did you ever come in here asking about the install?
[03:50] <bliss1_> Alth: well done although i like the look of Fedora 5
[03:51] <agliv5> Hobbsee it says fdisk -t is an invalid option
[03:51] <intuos3> i got this error msg from the last lines of "dmesg" : scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery: host 1 channel 0 id 0 lun 0
[03:51] <zeeble> maybe someone can have the fedora 5 theme for download:)
 Alth: did you ever come in here asking about the install? <-- I came in a couple of times, yes. Came in yesterday for the first time in a long while to ask a partitioning question.
[03:51] <Hobbsee> agliv5: no, man cfdisk.  you missed the c.  but dont do anything without looking at the egs...
[03:51] <intuos3> help... anyone?
[03:51] <Alth> bliss1_: It looks ok, but Ubuntu seems to suit me a lot more. It's powerful, but not ridiculously hard to learn ;)
[03:51] <zeeble> and how was fedora hard to learn?
[03:52] <orbin> Alth: yeah, just thought i remebered a fc person asking about ubuntu..
[03:52] <Alth> zeeble: It wasn't, it was the opposite.
[03:52] <zeeble> ah.
[03:52] <Alth> You miss my meaning.
[03:52] <rambo3> zeeble, you are in the wrong channel
[03:52] <zeeble> rambo3: eh?
[03:52] <sobbbber> hi everyone. finally i got frostwire to work. i found a fix here --> http://www.frostwire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4  this might help for those people who haven't find the solution.
[03:52] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: please please now that I have installed 0.8.0 can you pastebin the script :)
[03:53] <tekN1x> sobbbber: why no tjust Limewire to begin with. It's easier to install.
[03:53] <Alth> zeeble: FC was ... far, far too much like Linspire or whatever, at the time of FC2, and anything I could do in FC2, I could do in windows. And it wasn't even stable.
[03:53] <Alth> rambo3: Why is zeeble in the wrong channel?
[03:53] <agliv5> Hobbsee it says cfdisk -t is an invalid option what egs?
[03:53] <intuos3> or is there a limitation on ubuntu regarding sizes of disk which has usb connection?
[03:53] <rambo3> this is not fedora
 Alth: yeah, just thought i remebered a fc person asking about ubuntu.. <-- would have been a while ago...
[03:53] <Hobbsee> agliv5: man cfdisk.
[03:53] <jenda> !firefox
[03:53] <orbin> well that was nice.  i thought the ff update fixed the 100% cpu usage dealo
[03:53] <intuos3> Hobbsee: help? :)
[03:53] <orbin> Alth: i haven't been in here for a while.
[03:53] <zeeble> rambo3: thanks, but i think i can understand where to ask which question. mine was specific to a specific person about a specific issue.
[03:54] <twerp71> just installed breezy on latitude cpx can someone tell me how to enable power management?
[03:54] <Warbo> LadyVix: Hello
[03:54] <zeeble> intuos3: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingRemovableDevices
[03:54] <orbin> Alth: you don't have to quote people btw.  most of us have a memory longer than 1 min ;)
[03:54] <sobbbber> tekN1x: froshwire seems to be like limewire anyway.. i don't know. haha
[03:54] <intuos3> zeeble: thanks! :)
[03:55] <Alth> orbin: It's habit. I'm used to fast moving channels, and I like people to know which bit of text I'm addressing. I'll stop if you like, but it is an ingrained habit :P
[03:55] <N0ISV> hello
[03:55] <LadyVix> Warbo: I have sound now :P
[03:55] <orbin> Alth: i don't mind.  just thought i'd point it out to possibly save you xing and pasting
[03:55] <Warbo> LadyVix: If you said you were using an old version to begin with :)
[03:56] <orbin> twerp71: anything in particular?
[03:56] <LadyVix> Warbo: well thats what they sent me when I ordered disks....20 copies of hoary gave most of them to a coworkers to play with
[03:57] <Alth> orbin: I do it almost subconciously now :) It's harder to stop than to do the pasting and have people ignore it ;)
[03:57] <fyrestrtr> is there anyone running WoW using wine in here?
[03:57] <twerp71> just want it to shut down when its been ignored for more than 10 mins , or something like that
[03:57] <Warbo> LadyVix: You must have ordered too close to a release (or too late, after they ran out of Breezy :))
[03:57] <zeeble> heh.
[03:57] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: any chance of posting the script now that i have 0.8.0 installed :)
[03:58] <AngryElf> !shocksave
[03:58] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, AngryElf
[03:58] <Alth> twerp71: system/preferences/screensaver :)
[03:58] <AngryElf> !shockwave
[03:58] <ubotu> Unfortunately there is no shockwave available for Linux (unless you use wine).  Please lobby Macromedia!
[03:58] <LadyVix> Warbo: oh well... I fell asleep... when I came back i had to reboot but the update took so i'm happy
[03:58] <Warbo> bliss1_: You still on about Qemu?
[03:58] <AngryElf> ubotu! :(
[03:58] <Alth> twerp71: Under the advanced tab.
[03:58] <administrator> i got a question about xorg
[03:58] <agliv5> When I try to run cfdisk /dev/hda2 <- the one I want to format I get Fatal Error: Cannot open disk drive...
[03:58] <Alth> (As a side note, woot! I've had the distro a day and I know where stuff is >.>)
[03:59] <administrator> i just added 2 more settings and rebooted and they still don;t show up
[03:59] <bliss1_> Warbo: shh i just about nodded off
[03:59] <twerp71> cool thanks ;-)
[03:59] <naveen> hello
[03:59] <Warbo> agliv5: Do it on the drive, not the partition
[03:59] <N0ISV> hello, this is my first time on Xchat, is this the only channel for ubuntu?
[03:59] <LadyVix> Warbo: it was right after Breezy came out that I ordered
[03:59] <orbin> twerp71: install gnome-power-manager maybe
[03:59] <zeeble> N0ISV: /topic
[03:59] <Hobbsee> N0ISV: yes, what were you after?
[03:59] <Alth> So how's life on DALnet Zeebs?
[03:59] <Warbo> LadyVix: I've been using Ubuntu since I got a Kubuntu preview of Breezy, then got some CDs a few months ago
[04:00] <bina> HI I've tried to use two monitors on my ATI Card (at the same time), I can get them to both show the same desktop (using fireglcontrolpanel) but cant get them to show two desktops.  Is there something I need to do in KDE?
[04:00] <N0ISV> want to run ubuntu live cd
[04:00] <zeeble> Alth: should be good i guess. trivia mostly. in fact, that's where i am when i am there.
[04:00] <freezey> I just added 2 more resolution settings to my xorg.conf and rebooted and they won't show up? any reason why
[04:00] <LadyVix> Warbo: how do I install other programs? remember I stil want to install that game
[04:00] <Warbo> N0ISV: Have you tried it yet?
[04:00] <orbin> N0ISV: is that a question?
[04:00] <Alth> zeeble: Don't go to CC any more? Just Chata?
[04:01] <yggdrasil> how do i make a gateway machine with one nic on one side and another on the other siedd?
[04:01] <zeeble> Alth: yes. CC rare. it's been difficult.
[04:01] <Warbo> LadyVix: Well I would recommend installing stuff through Synaptic, but Neverwinter Nights doesn't need installing (usually) so you can put it somewhere like $HOME/Games and run it from there
[04:01] <yggdrasil> its allready seatup i just need to add aroute from eth0 to ath0
[04:01] <agliv5> cfdisk /dev/hda --> Fatal Error: Bad logical partition 6: logical partitions overlap...
[04:01] <N0ISV> I have it saved to a CD, I downloaded a pgm to open the .iso file, now what do I do next?
[04:01] <Alth> zeeble: Elaborate?
[04:02] <LadyVix> Warbo: and how do I get the binaries off the windows cd?
[04:02] <Warbo> N0ISV: You don't need to open the Live CD, just write the iso as it is using Nero or something (not built in Windows one, as that will just copy the file)
[04:02] <orbin> bina: there isn't a "clone" option?
[04:02] <zeeble> N0ISV: burn the ISO as an image. with your fav windows CD burning aplication. most will allow you to burn the iso as an image. then reboot, set your BIOS to boot off the CDrom and go ahead.
[04:03] <Warbo> LadyVix: Just copy them I would imagine. There must be a guide somewhere
[04:03] <zeeble> Alth: talk there can get to me sometimes. or having to sit around listening to loads of crap.
[04:03] <Alth> zeeble: I haven't been in for ages, been spending time on zirc. Lots less lamers :P
[04:03] <bina> orbin: yeah, thats the only one ive been able to use so far, but I want them to show different desktops so i can have one for browsing and another for documents etc
[04:03] <zeeble> Alth: good for you.
[04:03] <LadyVix> Warbo: I can get you to the URL with the directions... they made no sence to me
[04:04] <Alth> zeeble: I detect a note of sarcasm =o
[04:04] <bina> orbin: there is an extend one but that make the CRT go into 640x480.  I thought id try doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to see whether that helps
[04:04] <jenda> If anyone could get me a nice and BIG (1500*1500) picture of a red newt, or red eft even better... I would be very grateful (and yes, it is ontopic)
[04:04] <N0ISV> XP could not open the .iso file, I had to find a different pgm to open it.
[04:04] <yggdrasil> can somone tell me the cmd to add a route to go from eth0 (lan) to ath0 (wan) ? trying to make a gatweay box here
[04:04] <zeeble> Alth: none intended. relax.
[04:04] <Warbo> LadyVix: Fire away
[04:04] <zeeble> Alth: your sensory meters are all zonked out cos it is late night
[04:05] <Alth> That's true :)
[04:05] <Alth> Wait, how'd you know that?
[04:05] <Warbo> N0ISV: You just need to write the iso file to a CD, but in a way that ends up with lots of files on the disc, not just the iso file
[04:05] <zeeble> Alth: Eh? Well, it is evneing here. So must be very late in tasmania.
[04:06] <orbin> bina: possibly.  is there something about dual monitors on the ati wiki?
[04:06] <LadyVix> Warbo:  http://tinyurl.com/r996f
[04:06] <Alth> zeeble: Midnight, but I've had a long day :)
[04:06] <bina> orbin: good idea, i'll check
[04:06] <N0ISV> There are alot of files on the disk.
[04:07] <zeeble> Alth: cool. I'm just tring to get my camera and laptop to work together.
[04:07] <Arafangion> Why is vim so slow to load files atm?
[04:07] <orbin> bina: if not there, try the forum
[04:07] <agliv5> I just noticed something really strange  hda5 is the partition that had data on it that I want to save; however it starts at 1279 and ends at 4083.  hda2 & hda6 are unformated and start 1144 & 1145 and end 7295 & 4083 respectively... no wonder why I can't see hda5 it overlaps with hda2 and hda6.  What can I do to correct this?
[04:07] <zeeble> Arafangi2n: was it faster earlier?
[04:07] <N0ISV> I think there will be some operator error on my part till I figure all this out?
[04:07] <bina> orbin: k, thanks
[04:07] <LadyVix> Warbo: found a new toy so i dont drop big urls like i did last night
[04:08] <zeeble> heh. tinyurl rocks that way.
[04:08] <bina> orbin: i seem to remember seeing something when I tried to change the resolution in KDE but i can't even find that now :)
[04:08] <immer> hey, installed Breezy on my girlfriend's dell d610, and the wireless card doesn't show up in the net admin.   Ran lspci and the last entry showed something about an unknown network adapter with a broadcom chipset...any ideas?
[04:09] <aet> what happened to archive.ubuntulinux.org?
[04:09] <Warbo> LadyVix: OK, are you trying to install from an existing Windows installation?
[04:09] <slackern> Just a quick question, i have 2 packages being held back,   hplip-data libopenal0 how would i proceed to get them installed when doing apt-get upgrade?
[04:09] <cens0red> bugger it.
[04:09] <cens0red> I can't get java up and running on this.
[04:09] <zeeble> slackern: just try installing them individually.
[04:09] <Danamania> slackern: install each manually, or use dist-upgrade instead.
[04:10] <agliv5> can anybody help me recover my data?
[04:10] <slackern> dist-upgrade says the same thing.
[04:10] <slackern> but i'll try manually.
[04:10] <LadyVix> Warbo: click the link on the page down at bottom says Linux client.html
[04:10] <zeeble> then maybe there's some problem with the packages. let the system be as it is. without the 2 package upgrades.
[04:10] <orbin> cens0red: following the wiki?
[04:10] <Warbo> LadyVix: I did but it gives a few ways of installing. Which are you trying (I assume the second)
[04:11] <slackern> did it manually now and it didn't complain, lets see how it works out.
[04:11] <Warbo> agliv5: Where is it and where do you want it?
[04:11] <cens0red> orbin where's the wiki?
[04:11] <LadyVix> Warbo: ddrive that has an existing install is damaged... gets hot and shuts down if used for more than  minutes... the CD is the only real option
[04:12] <dj_smilee|work> BenC, are you about?
[04:12] <orbin> ubotu: tell cens0red about java
[04:12] <AngryElf> hey all, afaik, ntfs support is strictly RO, so how would i get a very large file from a linux comp to a windows comp using an external hard drive?
[04:12] <FreeZey> ok i need this solved somenoe help me out please
[04:12] <Alth> -e
[04:12] <agliv5> Warbo /dev/hda5 is where it is and I just want to make it visiable again
[04:12] <LadyVix> Warbo: unless you know how to use the binaries from download..
[04:13] <cens0red> orbin thanks.
[04:13] <FreeZey> i ran the sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg command
[04:13] <FreeZey> and still nothing
[04:13] <FreeZey> no changed were made
[04:13] <FreeZey> changes**
[04:13] <LadyVix> Warbo: I'll be back in a moment AFK went to get breakfast ready
[04:13] <Warbo> LadyVix: OK, have you downloaded the huge files for the first method
[04:13] <Warbo> lol, 3.13 pm
[04:14] <orbin> ubotu: tell AngryElf about explore2fs
[04:14] <FreeZey> marbo: think u can help me out real fast
[04:14] <agliv5> The problem is that I really don't have enough room to move it anywhere... it is where it is, but the partition table is apparently screwed up...
[04:14] <Alth> I goes to bed now.
[04:14] <Alth> Goodnight orbin :)
[04:14] <Alth> G'night Zeeble <3
[04:14] <Warbo> agliv5: You haven't saved anything to that part of disc since have you?
[04:14] <orbin> later Alth
[04:14] <Alth> See you guys tomorrow perhaps.
[04:14] <zeeble> Good night, Alth.
[04:15] <LadyVix> Warbo: remember what i said this morning... when i left it was am
[04:15] <LadyVix> Warbo: *1am
[04:15] <LadyVix> Warbo: its 9:15am now here :P
[04:15] <FreeZey> mad early
[04:15] <FreeZey> i gotta be at work till dam 5
[04:15] <agliv5> Warbo 3:15 huh?  that would put you in.... russia?  Anyway it's a really long story what happened
[04:16] <Warbo> LadyVix: Yeah. Anyway, you are going to do this with me guessing as we go, cos a) you have the installed windows version and b) i'm not downloading over a gig for an experiment (I have 20 GB limit)
[04:16] <agliv5> 4:15 here in germany :)
[04:16] <FreeZey> Ok let me ask something is there a way to change resolutions at boot screen?
[04:17] <m0shul> hello to all
[04:17] <Warbo> FreeZey: I think you can use options to control boot-up resolution but that is it (vga=somenumber) but I am probably really wrong
[04:17] <Danamania> is there a linux equivalent in ubuntu to OSX's glterm (which emulates a bubble-screened, flickery, slow-response phosphor serial terminal - like http://abstrakt.vade.info/wp-content/blogimages/glterm1.png )?
[04:17] <LadyVix> Warbo: *gigglesnort* I have to power up that second harddrive... my case is open and I unplug that harddrive when not in use i still need to download the client itself
[04:18] <agliv5> Warbo  it seems like you're really bussy at the moment?
[04:18] <west_> why can`t i just install amsn on ubuntu ?
[04:18] <Warbo> LadyVix: Don't bother with the drive to begin with, just the download
[04:18] <_jason> !info amsn
[04:18] <ubotu> amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB
[04:18] <tonyyarusso> FreeZey: You can change the resolution during boot stuff, but not of Grub.
[04:18] <_jason> west_: have you enable universe?
[04:18] <orbin> Warbo: you're correct on the vga stuff
[04:18] <Warbo> agliv5: No. I've just finished my last bababa.
[04:18] <FreeZey> marbo: well then can you tell me why i edit my xorg.conf and the resolutions won;t appear
[04:18] <zeeble> Danamania: whoa. that's the effect of the terminal app? i thought it was one curved screen
[04:18] <Warbo> orbin: Correct in saying I was wrong?
[04:18] <schirloc> i just upgraded to 5.10 and I can't get firefox working... help
[04:18] <arrick> &*@^#!(@^ I hate people who call you and ask you to set up an interview and then they arent event he company that they claimed to be.
[04:19] <agliv5> Warbo can you help me in fixing the partition table?
[04:19] <Warbo> agliv5: Maybe, as I tried it once
[04:19] <LadyVix> Warbo: I just ran the updater for ubuntu.. soem have to be doen thru Synaptic and i'll wait on those
[04:19] <schirloc> i just upgraded to 5.10 and I can't get firefox working... help
[04:19] <orbin> Warbo: no. correct as in you can use vga=xxx to "change resolution" for console
[04:19] <arrick> gormi456, are you still around?
[04:19] <orbin> ubotu: tell FreeZey about fixres
[04:19] <Warbo> LadyVix: OK, I'll help agliv5
[04:19] <jprce> i need help repartitioning my drives with a duel boot. i want to make my ubuntu partitions to be smaller and extend my windows drive
[04:19] <agliv5> Warbo, well that 1 more time than I've tried ;)  Where do we start?
[04:20] <Danamania> zeeble: yeah - it emulates the lot, bad included :)
[04:20] <west_> if anyone can tell me how to indstall aman ( i unistalled gaim ) PM me pls ..
[04:20] <zeeble> Danamania: looks neat.
[04:20] <arrick> agliv5, good morning
[04:20] <Warbo> orbin: Oh OK (I thought it was only for distros which use the "tux in the top left" method of boot-graphics)
[04:20] <NET||abuse> could anyone advice me on how to obtain libmysqlclient15 through the libs
[04:20] <orbin> schirloc: what's the issue?
[04:20] <Danamania> it takes me back :)
[04:20] <zeeble> west_: sudo apt-get install amsn
[04:20] <NET||abuse> umm, through the debs even..
[04:20] <NET||abuse> i've looked all over and not found the answer
[04:20] <zeeble> Danamania: hehe. i never used osx.
[04:20] <west_> ty
[04:20] <agliv5> Morning arrick I really screwed things up since yesterday
[04:20] <schirloc> want me to paste in a pm?
[04:20] <FreeZey> orbin: ty
[04:20] <arrick> agliv5, really?
[04:20] <NET||abuse> dapper seems to have libmysqlclient15 but breezy only has 14
[04:21] <arrick> what did you do?
[04:21] <NET||abuse> so can i safely just get 15 from the dapper debs?
[04:21] <NET||abuse> or is that a bad idea?
[04:21] <Hobbsee> NET||abuse: it's very likely a bad idea
[04:21] <Warbo> agliv5: You understand that I said tried? And that I have 1,2,3,4.. 6 failed hard drives next to me
[04:21] <NET||abuse> that's what i thought...
[04:21] <_jason> NET||abuse: probably a bad idea, could have different deps
[04:21] <schirloc> i have 2 errors I keep getting... I think i need to update a config file
[04:22] <west_> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[04:22] <west_> requested an impossible situation ?
[04:22] <orbin> Warbo: no.  all recent distros use framebuffer to draw text and graphics ... anyway, i don't know the exact terminology.
[04:22] <jprce> i need help repartitioning my drives with a duel boot. i want to make my ubuntu partitions to be smaller and extend my windows drive
[04:22] <NET||abuse> Hobbsee, have you any idea how i might get my hands on libmysqlclient15 in breezy then? i need to access a mysql 5.0.16 server on another box
[04:22] <Warbo> agliv5: Right, I did remember the name. Install "gpart"
[04:22] <_jason> west_: you need universe, have you enabled it?
[04:22] <orbin> Warbo: and vga=xxx specifies the resolution for the framebuffer to use ... or something like that
[04:22] <west_> how ?
[04:22] <Hobbsee> NET||abuse: ah, grab the source from somewhere, and compile it, i guess.
[04:22] <west_> I just got on ubuntu ,
[04:22] <intuos3> immer: time to grab ndiswrapper.
[04:22] <_jason> ubotu: tell west_ about universe
[04:22] <arrick>  anyone, I am in the process of using http://www.thesitewizard.com/wizards/feedbackform.shtml?r=533645477X1145536934 to generate a custom perl feedback form and it is asking for the location of the "sendmail binary, anyone have any suggestion as to finding it, or obtining it?
[04:22] <jprce> what program should i use to do that
[04:22] <Warbo> orbin: The only thing I like about Mandriva is the logo on consoles :)
[04:23] <zeeble> haha.
[04:23] <west_> is sick oif mr gates
[04:23] <schirloc> i just upgraded to 5.10 and I can't get firefox working... help
[04:23] <schirloc> i have 2 errors I keep getting... I think i need to update a config file
[04:23] <schirloc> want me to paste in a pm?
[04:23] <west_> of *
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> schirloc: Use the pastebin.
[04:23] <N0ISV> Will the ubuntu "live" cd run along with windows at the same time?
[04:23] <west_> where do I set up universal ?
[04:23] <orbin> arrick: er, install sendmail?
[04:23] <schirloc> pastebin?
[04:24] <orbin> Warbo: yeah, pretty flash :)
[04:24] <zeeble> schirloc: delete the ~/.mozilla stuff it if it is not needed.
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> schirloc: Read the message from the bot.
[04:24] <Warbo> N0ISV: It won't touch Windows, but it won't run AT THE SAME TIME. Windows will not boot up, Linux will. When you remove the CD Windows will boot up again
[04:24] <orbin> N0ISV: that's the point really
[04:24] <tekN1x> west_: pico /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the universe sources.
[04:24] <arrick> orbin, whats the name of it?
[04:24] <N0ISV> OK
[04:24] <schirloc> ho
[04:24] <zeeble> schirloc: be careful if you have thunderbird mails there was well. then you might want to do rm -rf ~/mozilla/firefox and try restarting FFox after that
[04:24] <orbin> N0ISV: actually, forget that. listen to warbo :P
[04:25] <orbin> arrick: sendmail :-/
[04:25] <orbin> arrick: it's in universe
[04:25] <arrick> ok thanks
[04:25] <antisocial_boris> is it possible to make a .zip that works on windows?
[04:25] <zeeble> antisocial_boris: sure.
[04:25] <LadyVix> Warbo: you'll be on after I get off work I take it? Synaptic says about 30 minutes but I have to get ready for work
[04:25] <Warbo> antisocial_boris: All zips will work on Windows (as long as you don't put a colon in the filename :))
[04:25] <NET||abuse> ok, mysql v 5 has been around long enough to become the GA version of mysql, i think it odd that ubuntu doesn't support the mysql client version to access v5 so... what's with that?
[04:25] <zeeble> haha
[04:26] <schirloc> no start, no error
[04:26] <N0ISV> But I need to set my PC to load from CD, and not c drive?
[04:26] <nandemonai_> Hi people, I've just installed a very light weight ubuntu install and have gdm / xfce4 running fine. Only thing is I cant set the resolution above 600x480. I have setup xorg.conf to no avail.. I'm thinking it's because I'm using the vesa driver yes?
[04:27] <zeeble> N0ISV: yes. in your bios. set first boot device as CD
[04:27] <Warbo> LadyVix: Well I'm living nocturnally this week (although I've been up for 24 hours so far, so I don't know how long I'm going to be awake) Sorry, but that's the life of a student in a holiday :)
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> N0ISV: Most modern machines will have the CD higher in the boot order by default, but you should check it.
[04:27] <bliss1_> orbin: do you about permissions ?
[04:27] <west_> when I ran pico /etc/apt/sources there was nothing on the screen . :(
[04:27] <zeeble> west_: sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:27] <LadyVix> Warbo: snickers... I never had that opportunity... I went from Highschool to work... and thats it....
[04:27] <zeeble> or sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:27] <Warbo> west_: Maybe run "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" instead (I've never used Pico)
[04:28] <LadyVix> Any recommended channels to loiter in?
[04:28] <tekN1x> Warbo: nano is an alternative to pico
[04:28] <antisocial_boris> zeeble, what command should i use?
[04:28] <west_> i have it there
[04:28] <Warbo> tekN1x: I know, but is pico installed by default?
[04:28] <bliss1_> orbin:  would like to set a few custom permission rules in /etc/udev/permissions.d/udev.permissions
[04:28] <tekN1x> Warbo: yes.
[04:28] <schirloc> what is pastebin?
[04:29] <schirloc> my bug reporting tool doesn't work
[04:29] <N0ISV> Never done that before. Should be easy enough to do?
[04:29] <thoreauputic> !pastebin
[04:29] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[04:29] <west_> GNU nano starts
[04:29] <orbin> bliss1_: that file doesn't exist for me
[04:29] <LadyVix> schirloc:   Pastes to Pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:29] <zeeble> antisocial_boris: zip -r filename.zip files
[04:29] <Warbo> N0ISV: Yes, but we can't really walk you through it as they're all different. Any advice we give would be obvious
[04:30] <schirloc> right, is anyone paying attention... firefox... my WEBBROWSER, is the thing not working, therefore making any interactions with a URL quite complicated
[04:31] <phrowzen> lol
[04:31] <orbin> antisocial_boris: also apps>accessories>archive mgr if you're more comfortable w/ guis
[04:31] <schirloc> sorry, if that sounded short
[04:31] <ubuntu_> jh
[04:31] <Warbo> schirloc: Have you tried installing an alternative temporarily? Konqueror, Epiphany, Amaya, even lynx
[04:31] <ubuntu_> saslut
[04:31] <ubuntu_> salut
[04:31] <beta_m> the local NTFS partition is only accessable to the programme that runs as root, i can do sudo -i and browse through it, and get files from it, or i can do jksudo xnc, and see it graphically, but i can't view it from my normal account
[04:31] <bliss1_> orbin: does not for me either have to create it
[04:32] <orbin> schirloc: w3m's installed by default
[04:32] <fyrestrtr> what are the options as far as voice chatting go?
[04:32] <Warbo> beta_m: You need to add the option "uid=yourusername" to the /etc/fstab file
[04:32] <schirloc> I suppose i could do that... w3m?
[04:32] <orbin> bliss1_: i'm nto familiar w/ that process.  sorry.
[04:32] <Kamion> beta_m: fixed in dapper
[04:32] <Kamion> (the dapper installer, that is)
[04:32] <beta_m> what is "dapper"?
[04:32] <jprce> can someone tell me what program is best for resizing partitions on a dual boot?
[04:32] <thoreauputic> !dapper
[04:32] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[04:32] <bliss1_> orbin: ok
[04:33] <tekN1x> beta_m: is upcoming release of the next ubuntu version.
[04:33] <fyrestrtr> jprce: for Windows, Partition Magic, for linux, gparted
[04:33] <schirloc> what is w3m?
[04:33] <zeeble> a browser.
[04:33] <thoreauputic> schirloc: text mode browser
[04:33] <beta_m> ok, thanks people
[04:33] <beta_m> q;-)
[04:33] <N0ISV> Cool, I have looked at the bios settings, just never changed anything. But to switch to Linux at some point, I need to try new stuff.
[04:33] <jprce> fyrestrtr, but if i resize with PM, will ubuntu recognize it still? (I have my win drive mounted)
[04:33] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: i have installed 0.8.0 can you pastebin the script:)
[04:34] <Warbo> N0ISV: Usually most PCs are set to boot floppy then CD then harddrive (then maybe network)
[04:34] <fyrestrtr> jprce: you need to be in Windows to use partition magic, when you resize it and then reload ubuntu, it will pickup the right size.
[04:34] <Kamion> beta_m: otherwise, edit /etc/fstab as root and change "defaults" on the relevant line to "defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46" (which is what the installer will set in dapper)
[04:34] <brandon__> i'm confused about something regarding iptables/firestarter. if i add an exception for a port, let's say edonkey2000, does thatmean the port will be visible and will respond to a scanner, or is it still stealthed until i initiate traffic, eg. launch amule?
[04:34] <Warbo> fyrestrtr: Doesn't Partition Magic reboot the machine anyway, then run from a floppy or something?
[04:34] <N0ISV> ok
[04:35] <jprce> fyrestrtr: ok, then use the livecd to change linux? or command line? - because the graphical gparted doesn't display drives for me in ubuntu
[04:35] <ubuntu_> tengo una duda de bash
[04:35] <Warbo> jprce: I have problems with GParted, but none with QTParted which is on KNOPPIX Live CD
[04:35] <ubuntu_> s.o.s
[04:35] <orbin> !es
[04:35] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:36] <jprce> Warbo: knoppix?
[04:36] <Warbo> jprce: Just a different Linux distro on Live CD. I always have one handy for resizing partitions
[04:36] <zeeble> Anyone have a sources.list entry forE17?
[04:36] <jprce> oh
[04:36] <agliv5> what's the post url  something.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:36] <agliv5> ?
[04:37] <zeeble> pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:37] <NoUse> !pastebin
[04:37] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[04:37] <zeeble> or that
[04:37] <Warbo> zeeble: There is one on the gete.org site (I think that is the URL) It links to some developer's blog
[04:37] <jprce> Warbo: well my burner doesn't work so i can't get that live CD
[04:37] <ubuntu_> hola
[04:37] <zeeble> Warbo: thanks. will check.
[04:37] <orbin> zeeble: breezy?
[04:37] <zeeble> orbin: dapper..
[04:38] <Warbo> jprce: Oh, OK. Just that I have never got GParted to actually write it's changes to disk (It says "this disc is active")
[04:38] <fyrestrtr> what applications are available for voice chatting? any? none?
[04:38] <zeeble> just want to see what it is like from a new snapshot.
[04:38] <zeeble> fyrestrtr: skype.
[04:38] <fyrestrtr> zeeble: other than that?
[04:38] <schirloc> well, any other suggestions?
[04:38] <finley> Znarl: helo
[04:38] <orbin> nvm then... !e17 factoid only has a breezy repos
[04:38] <jprce> Warbo, well that doesn't sound like it will help me. i don't need a program that does nothing
[04:38] <Warbo> fyrestrtr: Gnomemeeting (now called Ekiga)
[04:38] <arrick> can anyone here save text as ascii?
[04:39] <fyrestrtr> arrick: say what?
[04:39] <fyrestrtr> Warbo: anything that is compatible with MSN?
[04:39] <Warbo> jprce: That's what I'm saying, the KDE one is fine and so is the command line one (parted, the engine behind all of the ?Parteds)
[04:39] <|lostbyte_laptop> How do i get mplayer ?
[04:39] <arrick> fyrestrtr, I used a script generator, and its telling me I have to save the script as a ascii file
[04:39] <Warbo> fyrestrtr: I think this is being worked on in GAIM, but nothing else comes to mind
[04:39] <freezey> ok nice thats obrin
[04:39] <zeeble> !mplayer
[04:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[04:39] <freezey> now i got another problem haha
[04:40] <matth-w> Kopete is what I use for msn
[04:40] <fyrestrtr> matth-w: does it do voice?
[04:40] <jprce> ok
[04:40] <jprce> Warbo: i'll have to learn the commands for it then.
[04:40] <freezey> I set ubuntu up on a poweredge 2500 knowin that it supports its perc raid
[04:40] <matth-w> No...
[04:40] <matth-w> I don't think so
[04:40] <freezey> and when i installed it showed me all th drives i have now when i search through the file system they are not there
[04:40] <Warbo> jprce: I don't remember them myself, and I don't really want to screw up my new 250GB USB hard drive practicing, sorry
[04:41] <fyrestrtr> freezey: they are probably not mounted.
[04:41] <freezey> i thought i mounted them
[04:41] <freezey> maybe i didn't
[04:41] <freezey> hm
[04:41] <|lostbyte_laptop> zeeble, its not there in apt-get ?
[04:41] <fyrestrtr> arrick: means save it as plain text, not binary, and not utf-8
[04:41] <fyrestrtr> freezey: type 'mount'
[04:41] <arrick> so ansi would be ok?
[04:41] <jprce> Warbo: haha don't be so modest
[04:41] <Warbo> freezey: If you don't have "execute" permissions on a directory then you can't see what's in it
[04:41] <zeeble> |lostbyte_laptop: read what the link told you.
[04:41] <fyrestrtr> arrick: yes
[04:42] <|lostbyte_laptop> zeeble, sorry ! i'll read.
[04:42] <jprce> Warbo, alright i'll work it out myself. i have a bigger problem to deal with: there is something wrong with my locales. i get errors everytime i install something and i can't use dpkg sometimes
[04:43] <|lostbyte_laptop> zeeble, Package mplayer-386 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:43] <Warbo> jprce: I had that in a Live CD I was (am) making. Couldn't be bothered to solve it as it would be automatically set on boot
[04:43] <freezey> marbo: i am still new to all of this so what  am i lookin for exactly
[04:44] <Warbo> freezey: Is that for me?
[04:44] <freezey> marbo: yeah
[04:44] <intuos3> that is a mine of information regarding ubuntu and i find it indispensable.
[04:44] <|lostbyte_laptop> zeeble, my apt-get cannot find it.
[04:44] <antisocial_boris> damn, windows is screwing up my zipped files, its putting all the files in one directory, not in the directory they are meant to be in
[04:44] <jprce> ?
[04:44] <fyrestrtr> intuos3: that would imply official endorsement of that site by ubuntu, and that's not something anyone here has the authority to do.
[04:44] <orbin> intuos3: if you haven't noticed.  most newbies don't read the topic
[04:44] <|lostbyte_laptop> zeeble, ahh ! brb
[04:44] <intuos3> fyrestrtr: that's tough then. :)
[04:44] <nsmith> I have adobe acrobat pdf forms that I need to fill out.  The PDF document viewer will not allow me to do this.  Can anyone tell me what I need to do in order to fill out PDF forms?
[04:44] <thoreauputic> intuos3: that site has instructions for using automatix- there is no way we would recommend it
[04:44] <fyrestrtr> nsmith: you need the official acrobat reader.
[04:45] <nsmith> acrobat reader is compatable with ubuntu?
[04:45] <Warbo> freezey: Each file/directory has read, write and execute permissions for it's owner,group and everyone else. If a directory is not owned by you (system is owned by root) and execute is not set then you can not even see inside it
[04:45] <intuos3> thoreauputic: well, we could always tell them to avoid automatix. :)
[04:45] <thoreauputic> intuos3: we already do - all the time :)
[04:45] <orbin> nsmith: install acroread from the repos
[04:45] <thoreauputic> !automatix
[04:45] <ubotu> methinks automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[04:45] <fyrestrtr> intuos3: like that would work. Its like saying, there is the cookie jar, just don't take any.
[04:46] <nsmith> orbin: I am still a little new at ubuntu can you guide me?
[04:46] <Warbo> nsmith: There is a Linux version, but it is slow and ungly and big. There are LOADS of PDF viewers/makers in Linux
[04:46] <thoreauputic> intuos3: the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation site is a far better wiki recommendation
[04:46] <intuos3> nsmith: see if this site will help you <http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu> just avoid automatics. :)
[04:46] <N0ISV> I guess, run the live CD first, get a feel for Linux, then install and run it from the hard drive?
[04:46] <thoreauputic> intuos3: and has the !docs trigger for ubotu
[04:47] <nsmith> intuos3: thanks will try
[04:47] <freezey> marbo: ok ok so u wanna check i see what your sayin so my sda1 sdc1 and sdb1 all have rw on them
[04:47] <intuos3> thoreauputic: ok will check that out.
[04:47] <orbin> nsmith: you need to enable multiverse first: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto ... then sys>admin>synaptic ... search for acroread ... right-click>mark for install ... click on apply
[04:47] <Warbo> N0ISV: That's what it's there for! (And to give to people who are scared of installing)
[04:47] <freezey> marbo: my sda1 says rw,errors=remount  - ro)
[04:47] <nsmith> orbin: thanks will try
[04:47] <thoreauputic> intuos3: also http://help.ubuntu.com
[04:47] <thoreauputic> and
[04:47] <thoreauputic> !easyubuntu
[04:47] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[04:48] <orbin> N0ISV: just know that you can't install from the livecd ... at least for breezy.
[04:48] <freezey> marbo: the others say (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[04:48] <slackern> Is there a way to change the default port for incoming connections for the default bitorrent client?
[04:48] <ramirez> I need help with wine
[04:48] <nsmith> When I open synaptic I get the fallowing message W: No foi possvel executar stat  lista de pacotes de cdigo fonte http://cv.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/cv.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:48] <Warbo> freezey: OK. First it's a W (not being picky, but the posts with my name in change colour) and second: You are trying to access USB from an IDE (hda) system, yes?
[04:48] <nsmith> why is that?
[04:48] <nsmith> sorry its in portuguese
[04:49] <nsmith> let me change that
[04:49] <N0ISV> Yes I know, its just to get a feel for it...so to speak.
[04:49] <freezey> warbo: no
[04:49] <fyrestrtr> nsmith: run sudo apt-get sync
[04:49] <Warbo> freezey: Oh? Explain your drive set up to me
[04:49] <_jason> fyrestrtr: what does apt-get sync do?
[04:50] <freezey> warbo: maybe when i was changing my xerver.xorg it messed sumthin up.... but i have 3 scsi drives on a dell poweredge i am going to setup RAID 1 today but i wanna make sure these drives are all mounted before i do it
[04:50] <OneSeventeen> I am in despirate need of a update to my Ubuntu server, but am paranoid.  I'm making a .tgz of everything, but is there anything else I can do to be careful during the process?
[04:50] <freezey> warbo: xserver-xorg
[04:50] <Kamion> nsmith: he meant 'sudo apt-get update', I imagine
[04:50] <nsmith> ok thanks
[04:50] <fyrestrtr> yes, that is what I meant -- between two distros, and get the commands mixed :P
[04:51] <_jason> fyrestrtr: which distro uses sync?
[04:51] <arrick> anyone: how do I find the "cgi-bin" directory of my website with a ubuntu/apache2 server?
[04:51] <fyrestrtr> _jason: gentoo
[04:51] <_jason> ah
[04:51] <freezey> warbo: well atleast make sure i didn;t do anything wrong with them before i set up the raid 1...i chose ubuntu because i was originally using debian then i was using slackware but the PERC RAID is not supported and i had to go through using a 2.4.6 kernel
[04:51] <fyrestrtr> _jason: only its emerge sync
[04:52] <freezey> warbo: so it was a pain....now i just chose ubuntu because of its hardware support for my system
[04:52] <freezey> warbo: sorry for the life story haha
[04:52] <Warbo> freezey: Oh, OK. I just accocialte SDA with USB (even though it is SCSI). OK. Well, I would say that anything you are mounting that you want your narmal user to own should have the options "defaults,users,uid=yourusername,exec,rw" that was my little nugget of advice. I have no experience with RAID (but plenty of LVM)
[04:53] <jprce> does anyone know how to fix broken locales?
[04:53] <freezey> warbo: ok so how do i set those drives to that
[04:53] <freezey> warbo: 2 more questions also
[04:54] <freezey> warbo: my sda1 is a etx3 and the others are NTFS don;t know why either
[04:54] <OneSeventeen> I tried to make a backup using tar cvpzf backup.tgz / --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys but I just noticed that it was hanging while trying to store /proc/kcore.... but wasn't /proc/ excluded?!
[04:54] <freezey> warbo: and why does it have (rw, errors=remount.ro) after my sda1 drive
[04:55] <freezey> warbo: my question is just about the errors part
[04:55] <|lostbyte_laptop> can some one pass me their source.list file ?
[04:55] <|lostbyte_laptop> i cant seem to apt-get mplayer
[04:55] <arrick> hey guys, when using live cd, why would it not see a hard drive?
[04:55] <zeeble> I would but i have dapper. not breezy.
[04:55] <thoreauputic> !tell |lostbyte_laptop about repos
[04:55] <fyrestrtr> OneSeventeen: read the manual page for tar, that's not how your use --exclude
[04:55] <orbin> arrick: how are you looking for it?
[04:56] <Warbo> freezey: The errors says that if something goes wrong when mount ing your drive (this is / yes?) then it will get mounted as read only. That is why you may end up with a read-only system if you have to check your root disk for errors (you get rw when you reboot)
[04:56] <OneSeventeen> :(  (I was going off an ubuntu post that I swore I've used before... oh well, that's what I get for not checking the manual first)
[04:56] <arrick> orbin, terminal I am trying to help someone unbork their partition table
[04:56] <freezey> warbo: ok cool
[04:56] <arrick> orbin, check this out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12601
[04:57] <freezey> warbo: so how do i mount those other 2?
[04:57] <Warbo> freezey: The first post I said about "options" is what you should have in the options column in /etc/fstab for a filesystem that you want to own as your user (don't do it on system stuff, just extra personal files and Windows partitions)
[04:57] <|lostbyte_laptop> thoreauputic, how to tell which ubuntu version i am using at the moment ?
[04:58] <pip> hello!
[04:58] <thoreauputic> |lostbyte_laptop:  lsb_release -a
[04:58] <pax> uname -a
[04:58] <thoreauputic> pax: no
[04:58] <pax> ok
[04:58] <|lostbyte_laptop> thoreauputic, thanxx
[04:58] <thoreauputic> pax: although that will tell the kernel
[04:58] <freezey> warbo: so i do it through the /etc/fstab?
[04:58] <pax> no problem.
[04:58] <pip> can I use Delphi on ubuntu ?
[04:58] <Warbo> freezey: To mount ntfs just use regular mount command "sudo mount /dev/sdwhatever /place/to/mount -t ntfs -o optionslikeIexplained"
[04:58] <OneSeventeen> fyrestrtr: to be sure I'm reading this correctly, I should basically just put --exclude /proc --exclude /lost+found .. etc. etc.?
[04:58] <imperfect-> Anyone know what drake was postponed?
[04:59] <pax> how about cat /etc/debian_version will work? :-)
[04:59] <freezey> warbo: and the options were "defaults,users,uid=yourusername,exec,rw" right?
[04:59] <Frogzoo> imperfect-: linkie?
[04:59] <orbin> arrick: over my head i'm afraid.  Warbo: any ideas on this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12601 ?
[04:59] <thoreauputic> pax: no it will just say testing/unstable
[04:59] <imperfect-> Frogzoo: linkie?
[04:59] <pax> thoreauputic: are you using dapper?
[04:59] <thoreauputic> pax: cat /etc/issue works though
[04:59] <Frogzoo> imperfect-: last I heard release was june 1 - do you have a link to a recent update?
[04:59] <Warbo> freezey: Yes /etc/fstab sores the info for mounting stuff at boot (but not things like hot-plug Pen Drives) The options I gave you need to be in the right order as well
[04:59] <walter> i dont have sound in ubuntu who can help me?
[04:59] <thoreauputic> pax: not yet - I'm on dialup
[05:00] <imperfect-> Frogzoo: well it was supposed to be today, previous.
[05:00] <Frogzoo> !dapper
[05:00] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[05:00] <imperfect-> Frogzoo: it was pushed back... just wondering why
[05:00] <pax> thoreauputic: god forbid.
[05:00] <freezey> warbo: ok let me see how this goes thanks dude
[05:00] <Warbo> orbin: Loading
[05:00] <Plitskin> where can I find the php config file?
[05:00] <imperfect-> Plitskin : locate php.ini
[05:00] <Plitskin> imperfect: thanks
[05:00] <thoreauputic> pax: she didn't, unfortunately ;)
[05:01] <Kamion> imperfect-: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-March/000058.html
[05:01] <pax> thoreauputic: I can see that, you're not a fan of her blog by any chance?
[05:01] <OneSeventeen> fyrestrtr: how do I use --exclude?  Most tutorials/man pages I've found don't deviate from what I posted...
[05:01] <Warbo> arrick: Need help? I'm no expert remember
[05:01] <thoreauputic> pax: depends which translation ;)
[05:01] <Henk> !broadcom
[05:01] <ubotu> hmm... broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[05:02] <Plitskin> that's weird... why would it be named as .ini file... isn't that for windows?
[05:02] <Warbo> walter: What does Device Manager say? Also what version are you running? (of Ubuntu)
[05:02] <arrick> Warbo, Im trying to help agliv5 get his partition manager unborked
[05:02] <imperfect-> I see.
[05:02] <freezey> warbo: can i pm you what just came out just so u can tell me if its right or not?
[05:02] <imperfect-> Thanks.
[05:02] <arrick> he has 3 partitions spanning the same block
[05:02] <Warbo> arrick: I didn't think there'd be anyone else who was following my gpart advice :)
[05:02] <asteowq> guys, if my access point can see my laptop in the mac table, yet I can't ping the router (the laptop doesnt seem to be receiving packets).  What should I be looking for?
[05:03] <Warbo> freezey: Go on then, just this once
[05:03] <arrick> Warbo, huh?
[05:03] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: HI installed 0.8.0 ok can you please pastebin the script please? :)
[05:04] <rcaskey_> hrmm, noone has submitted the story to digg yet...
[05:04] <Warbo> arrick: I'm assuming those recovered (partially) partitions are found by gpart, which I had previously told him to get
[05:04] <arrick> yep
[05:04] <arrick> Warbo, yep
[05:04] <Jowi> asteowq: accesslist/filters in either router or AP, depending on what they support. Maybe the laptop can connect but is not allowed to do a thing.
[05:05] <Warbo> agliv5: Do you have data on ALL of the partitions, or ones that aren't overlapping?
[05:05] <Jowi> asteowq: might also be a weak signal. hard to say
[05:05] <Frogzoo> bliss1_: no
[05:05] <arrick> Warbo
[05:05] <Warbo> arrick: Yes?
[05:05] <asteowq> Jowi, thanks! But I've turned all restrictions off on the router to eliminate that.  Other laptops seem to connect fine.
[05:05] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: ok nevermind just thought I ask
[05:05] <arrick> I had him delete the fat partitions and he says now there is noting left for partitions at all
[05:06] <antisocial_boris> probably not a great place to ask but what is the dos equivalent of ls?
[05:06] <ebw> Hello! In my system there is a pci wlan card with acx111 chipset. The module gets loaded in spite of it is not mentioned in /etc/modules. How does this work?
[05:06] <walter> help me with my sound
[05:06] <Warbo> arrick: I was wondering about whether data is spread all over the place or whether they are just new, empty partitions
[05:06] <Jowi> asteowq: ip conflict? you could try to assign a static ip to that mac-address just to make sure
[05:06] <Warbo> antisocial_boris: dir
[05:06] <Jowi> asteowq: if you use the routers dhcp that is
[05:07] <asteowq> Jowi: tried the static address, I cant seem to get a DHCP address though.
[05:07] <Warbo> walter: What does device manager say and which version of Ubuntu are you using (sorry if I missed your response before)
[05:07] <arrick> Warbo, it has about 3 gigs in the ntfs file that is spanned
[05:07] <|lostbyte_laptop> which is the latest breezy or dapper ?
[05:08] <_jason> |lostbyte_laptop: breezy is latest stable
[05:08] <Warbo> |lostbyte_laptop: breezy is stable, dapper is unstable (technically)
[05:08] <Jowi> asteowq: how about turning off firewalls on the laptop? seems strange you can connect but not get an ip through dhcp
[05:08] <|lostbyte_laptop> _jason, Warbo : ok i get it. tx
[05:08] <freezey> warbo: so what u think warbo
[05:08] <caonex> can anyone tell me why the new beta dowload link is broken
[05:08] <caonex> it has been released already
[05:08] <OneSeventeen> how do I exclude directories when using tar?
[05:09] <Kamion> which link, where?
[05:09] <Warbo> freezey: Have you sent me anything? Nothing here
[05:09] <caonex> Kamion: ubuntu website
[05:09] <Kamion> caonex: ^--
[05:09] <Kamion> caonex: where on the website?
[05:09] <Kamion> URL please
[05:09] <_jason> caonex: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ seems to work here
[05:09] <caonex> Kamion: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing
[05:09] <caonex> Kamion: the top part says 6.06 beta released today
[05:10] <orbin> OneSeventeen: maybe you need to do --exclude=/dir/* instead of just /dir
[05:10] <Kamion> caonex: yes - and the links from that page work?
[05:10] <Warbo> arrick: Just had an important question but answeded it myself :) (it is Win 95 extended not Linux extended)
[05:10] <bliss1_> ompaul: hi getting warmer
[05:10] <|lostbyte_laptop> has anyone have any idea on gtk gui configuration ?
[05:10] <Kamion> caonex: which link exactly is broken? I'm one of the people who can fix it, but I need you to give me details
[05:11] <arrick> Warbo, correct
[05:11] <|lostbyte_laptop> i want to change the font of all gtk app's.. !! cause they look so big and ugly. !!
[05:11] <Toma-> its amazing how fast the latest fluxbox is... it almost makes things load faster :O
[05:11] <Plitskin> exit
[05:11] <arrick> anyone: how do I find the "cgi-bin" directory of my website with a ubuntu/apache2 server?
[05:11] <OneSeventeen> orbin: thanks, I'll try that and see if it works...
[05:11] <caonex> Kamion: yeah they all do
[05:11] <jmspeex> Has anyone found a solution to keep gam_server from eating up all CPU?
[05:12] <Toma-> arrick: it should be /cgi-bin
[05:12] <caonex> Kamion: not broken anymore
[05:12] <caonex> Kamion: has just been fixed
[05:12] <orbin> |lostbyte_laptop: those are gtk1 apps.
[05:12] <Jowi> |lostbyte_laptop: "gnome-font-properties"
[05:12] <arrick> Toma-, thanks
[05:12] <orbin> |lostbyte_laptop: which one in particular irks you?
[05:13] <Warbo> arrick: OK, I would suggest fiddling with it in a graphical tool like QTParted which doesn't apply until you tell it. Maybe resize things out of the way(but will it load a disk in such a state?)
[05:13] <arrick> Toma-, there is no /cgi-bin
[05:13] <freezey> tell warbo: yeah i sent it to you
[05:13] <Warbo> freezey: I have nothing. Use pastebin
[05:13] <jadaz87> jmspeex what is gam_server?
[05:13] <nsmith> I downloaded open office Portuguese but when I try and open it I get an error that says "cannot open, archive type not supported"
[05:13] <Toma-> arrick: are you on the server now? is it your machine?
[05:13] <nsmith> what can I do to solve this?
[05:13] <arrick> Warbo, not sure, Im haveing him try the win partition manager right quick
[05:13] <arrick> Toma-, Im sshed into the server right now
[05:13] <nsmith> it is .rpm
[05:13] <Warbo> arrick: OK.
[05:14] <Toma-> arrick: ahh. probablt /var/www/cgi-bin or something
[05:14] <freezey> warbo: join channel freeze
[05:14] <Warbo> nsmith: that is from a RedHat system, Ubuntu is Debianb (.deb) based
[05:14] <nsmith> Warbo: ok I did not know there was a difference
[05:14] <jadaz87> nsmith you have to get the .deb file
[05:14] <Toma-> nsmith: try using alian to convert it to a deb file
[05:14] <jadaz87> !tell nsmith about alien
[05:14] <Toma-> err alien
[05:14] <arrick> Toma-, there is no cgi-bin in the www, can I just create one?
[05:15] <Toma-> arrick: yep
[05:15] <arrick> ok thanks
[05:15] <Warbo> nsmith: You can convert .rpm into .deb using alien, but trying to find a deb is better
[05:15] <nsmith> ok thanks
[05:15] <LadyVix> Warbo: I set it to download KDE thru synaptic
[05:16] <Warbo> freezey: Not there (did "Get List" as well)
[05:16] <OneSeventeen> nope, --exclude=dir/* does not work
[05:16] <Warbo> LadyVix: OK. When it's done just log out and there is a button for Session. Choose KDE and tell it to save it
[05:17] <freezey> warbo: ok how do i use this pastebin thing
[05:17] <LadyVix> Warbo: ok.... if i like kde should i remove gnome?
[05:17] <orbin> OneSeventeen: http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/html_node/tar_102.html
[05:18] <anika> hola alguien abla
[05:18] <|lostbyte_laptop> orbin, Jowi: the firefox menu fonts.. also i am using kubuntu.. so no gnome programs.
[05:18] <Warbo> LadyVix: It depends on how much space you have. You can use GNOME apps in KDE and KDE in GNOME. Also you should keep the GTK libraries (that draw GNOME's buttons and stuff) and lots of programs use them
[05:18] <Guru_> http://bigtitsroundasses.bangbros1.com/gal/298/p/bavideopost/  http://www.sog10.com/gallery01/c2100k/index.html
[05:18] <jmspeex> jadaz87: It's a file monitoring daemon whose main purpose is to eat more CPU than all applications being monitored.
[05:19] <orbin> |lostbyte_laptop: ah, gnoem apps in kde.  well, kde apps look butt-uglt here in gnome too :)
[05:19] <Warbo> freezey: Go on pastebin.com and paste what you want to paste there, click send then give me the URL in the localtion bar
[05:19] <orbin> s/uglt/ugly
[05:19] <LadyVix> Warbo: I have a 250 GB harddrive i aloted about 75 gig to Ubuntu
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> 75gb is plenty big. :P
[05:19] <OneSeventeen> orbin: yup, I've read that before, still can't figure it out.
[05:19] <Warbo> LadyVix: May as well keep GNOME then :)
[05:19] <LadyVix> Warbo: :P
[05:19] <da3rX|Work> how much space does ubuntu take?
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> I install about everything i can find.. and dont think im over 100gb..
[05:20] <fyrestrtr> da3rX|Work: around 4 GB
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> and thats counting a few dozen gb of video/music.
[05:20] <OneSeventeen> I'm trying a simple backup of my home directory on my laptop now, and simply want to exclude ~/.mozilla and every combination I've tried hasn't worked
[05:20] <Frogzoo> da3rX|Work: depends, but 20gig without skimping means not having to worry about space
[05:20] <da3rX|Work> 10 gig partition should be decent for a first time user?
[05:20] <orbin> OneSeventeen: i think the main point is to use quotes... try this:  --exclude '/dir/*'
[05:20] <freezey> warbo:http://pastebin.com/671463
[05:20] <LadyVix> Warbo: the only things i told it not to download were the foreign language packs
[05:20] <Warbo> Dr_Willis: I think my system is bloated if it is over 10GB
[05:20] <freezey> warbo: http://pastebin.com/671463
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> Warbo,  well you are a Linux Snob anyway. :P
[05:20] <Frogzoo> da3rX|Work: not enough if you intend to play around & install everything
[05:20] <OneSeventeen> orbin: nope, still doesn't exclude directories.
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> I have ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop, and a half-dozen other window managers and a bunch of other stuff in under 7GB.
[05:21] <k31th> How do i setup linux to use NTP (from the cmd line) i want to use a server not run one.
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> Warbo,  ive been trying to clean up my hard drives honest! :P but the files just keep appearing! lol.
[05:21] <Warbo> Dr_Willis: Then turn off BitTorrent :)
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> k31th,  i think ya use the ntpclient. i saw a wiki page mentionign that.
[05:21] <libro> hola
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> Warbo,  i know. :P  but its for research!
[05:21] <arrick> Hey, does apache2 have cgisupport by default?
[05:21] <rohan> what is ubuntu "LTS" ?
[05:21] <rohan> what is LTS ?
[05:21] <Warbo> freezey: You took me a bit too literally there
[05:22] <libro> hello
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> Dr_Willis: Research?
[05:22] <sobbbber> any unix-compatible editor for ubuntu?
[05:22] <Frogzoo> arrick: more than likely - check the config
[05:22] <arrick> Frogzoo, how do I check?
[05:22] <libro> I 'm spanish
[05:22] <thoreauputic> sobbbber: erm... rather a lot
[05:22] <sobbbber> give one please.. one that i can easily install
[05:22] <Warbo> freezey: You can access your partition/drive from anywhere and I put "/place/to/mount" to mean wherever you wanted it to go (probably in /mnt would be sensible) also there is a space after the device name. That's it
[05:22] <gnomefreak> libro: try #ubuntu-es for spanish
[05:23] <LadyVix> Warbo: 8 minute countdown :P
[05:23] <Frogzoo> arrick: man apache2 - scroll to bottom & see 'files'
[05:23] <thoreauputic> sobbbber: nano, vim, emacs21, kate, gedit, scite .....
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> sobbbber,  like 'vi' ya mean?
[05:23] <arrick> thanks
[05:23] <libro> I like the films american pie and resident evil
[05:23] <_jason> !offtopic
[05:23] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[05:23] <|lostbyte_laptop> orbin, firefox is gtk right ?
[05:23] <orbin> OneSeventeen: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-October/061396.html
[05:23] <Warbo> LadyVix: What speed you got (I was on 1Mb before but I'm on 2Mb with 20GB limit now)
[05:23] <thoreauputic> sobbbber: you already have vim and nano
[05:23] <gnomefreak> libro: this is not a general chat channel please join either #ubuntu-es or ubuntu-offtopic
[05:23] <orbin> |lostbyte_laptop: not sure
[05:24] <orbin> |lostbyte_laptop: surely there's a qt version?
[05:24] <libro> hola
[05:24] <arrick> !es
[05:24] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:24] <LadyVix> Warbo: is that meant to be sarcastic or not? i can never tell in IRC :P i lose most of my bandwidth due to my home network
[05:24] <Warbo> LadyVix: Just an innocent question (wondering how much of KDE you are getting)
[05:25] <orbin> OneSeventeen: probably a bad link.  i'm even more confused :-/
[05:25] <|lostbyte_laptop> orbin, ok !
[05:25] <OneSeventeen> orbin: awsome!
[05:25] <arrick> Frogzoo, it doesnt show any cgi in there
[05:25] <Warbo> freezey: Have you tried what I said?
[05:25] <LadyVix> Warbo: i'm getting everything but the language files and tutors...and I dont know my actual speed....i'm on DSL in the middle of nowhere...
[05:25] <orbin> OneSeventeen: it worked? :-/
[05:25] <Tayra> http://bigtitsroundasses.bangbros1.com/gal/298/p/bavideopost/  http://www.sog10.com/gallery01/c2100k/index.html
[05:25] <OneSeventeen> orbin: basically just needed to put --exclude directly after the tar command..
[05:26] <jadaz87> !ops
[05:26] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[05:26] <orbin> OneSeventeen: where di you put it originally?
[05:26] <thoreauputic> what's the problem?
[05:26] <OneSeventeen> orbin: so tar --exclude=dir1 --exclude=dir2 --exclude=dir3 -cvpzf backup.tgz /path/to/directory/to/archive
[05:26] <arrick> ban Tayra
[05:26] <gnomefreak> ban tayra Amaranth
[05:26] <jadaz87> thoreauputic Tayra
[05:26] <apokryphos> :)
[05:26] <gnomefreak> please
[05:26] <Amaranth> they left
[05:26] <OneSeventeen> orbin: I put it after the path to directory to archive as per: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[05:26] <arrick> they will be back
[05:27] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: its a bot
[05:27] <arrick> yep
[05:27] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: the bots have been bad today
[05:27] <Frogzoo> |lostbyte_laptop: ldd /opt/firefox/firefox-bin
[05:27] <orbin> OneSeventeen: glad you worked it out
[05:28] <Warbo> freezey: Did you try what I said? Put a space after the device and change /place/to/mount to /mnt
[05:28] <gnomefreak> ty
[05:28] <orbin> OneSeventeen: did people complain about it not working in that thread?
[05:28] <gnomefreak> brb gotta call this guy for key signing :(
[05:28] <freezey> warbo: sorry had to run to the bathroom
[05:28] <Warbo> freezey: lol
[05:28] <OneSeventeen> orbin: near the very end... apparently that thread was from Hoary!  oops!
[05:28] <Warbo> freezey: See last post
[05:28] <libro> hello
[05:29] <jadaz87> hello
[05:29] <orbin> OneSeventeen: still.....tar is tar
[05:29] <libro> speakin spanish
[05:29] <jadaz87> !tell libro about es
[05:29] <libro> speaking spanish?
[05:30] <LadyVix> Warbo: 3 minute countdown then i have to logout :P
[05:30] <libro> I live in spain
[05:30] <arrick> jadams, libro knows, wont go, been told many times, and even pm'd me a few minutes ago
[05:30] <libro> hola
[05:30] <cello_rasp> damn, damn, damn. i was transferring some files to my ipod shuffle and nautilus paused on one file. After a minute, nautilus crashed, and now won't restart. the shuffle cannot be written to or unmounted.
[05:30] <libro> hablo espaol
[05:30] <OneSeventeen> orbin: apparently the only real change I needed to make was putting the directory path at the end of the command, and leaving everything else where it was
[05:30] <Warbo> LadyVix: You don't have to, but what's the point downloading KDE and notusung it?
[05:30] <Warbo> !es
[05:30] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:31] <freezey> warbo: mount: /dev/sdc1 already mounted or /mnt busy
[05:31] <freezey> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdc1 is mounted on /media/New Volume
[05:31] <freezey>  thats what comes up
[05:31] <jadaz87> libro join this channet:   #ubuntu-es
[05:31] <jadaz87> libro channel*
[05:31] <LadyVix> Warbo: thats what killed my first 6 computer configurations.... :P
[05:31] <OneSeventeen> although now I'm wondering if I should have excluded the apt cache as well... oh well, its not too big
[05:31] <Warbo> freezey: OK, run "mount" and copy the line with sdc1 here
[05:32] <agliv5> Hey all :)  I killed my partitions table, but posted it (paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12603) before doing so... so I know the correct values, how to I fix the table?
[05:32] <nsmith> I have been trying to figure out how to share files with other users on the same computer with ubuntu.  I got some info off of ubuntoforums and did the fallowing : ln -s /share /home/username.  In my home folder I now have a folder named share that is locked.  I cannot change the permission and I cannot put files into it or delete it.  When I try it says I do not have permission.  Any help?
[05:32] <LadyVix> Warbo I'll be right back
[05:32] <Warbo> agliv5: Well arrick left so it's me again
[05:32] <Frogzoo> agliv5: with fdisk & a lot of luck
[05:32] <Amaranth> nsmith: sudo chmod 755 /share
[05:32] <Amaranth> nsmith: run that from a terminal
[05:32] <agliv5> Warbo, don't you feel lucky ;)
[05:33] <Warbo> agliv5: You used Gpart to get back the partitions? (But now they overlap)
[05:33] <libro> hello
[05:33] <Frogzoo> agliv5: that's perfect - just recreate the partition table, assigning the exact same # of blocks
[05:33] <jadaz87> libro people speak spanish in #ubuntu-es
[05:33] <Warbo> freezey: No need for pastebin for 1 line
[05:34] <hmrocha> hello, i'm having a real trouble with nfs in ubuntu
[05:34] <Warbo> jadaz87: Hello isn't spanish
[05:34] <hmrocha> i have a centos 4.3 server exporting a directory
[05:34] <nsmith> Amaranth: did that and nothing happened
[05:34] <aridese> how do i restart apache?
[05:34] <joelbryan> libro, try http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport
[05:34] <Amaranth> nsmith: share dir in your home folder is still locked?
[05:34] <skp> hi, neidea how do i install gcc-3.2 on Breezy ... in the sense ffmpeg works fine only with a compilation by gcc32
[05:34] <Warbo> aridese: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[05:34] <agliv5> Warbo no it's a bit more complicated... post 12506 is what the table looked like before I started messing things up
[05:34] <nsmith> Amaranth: yes
[05:34] <hmrocha> and ubuntu 5.10 clients log that "nfs warning: mount version older than kernel"
[05:35] <jadaz87> WArbo libro	I live in spain libro	hablo espaol
[05:35] <hmrocha> what might be happening?
[05:35] <aridese> thanks!
[05:35] <Amaranth> nsmith: ls -l /home/<username>/share
[05:35] <Warbo> agliv5: Because it was fine then...
[05:35] <Amaranth> nsmith: paste the result here (should only be one line)
[05:35] <OneSeventeen> I just ran the following command:
[05:35] <Warbo> jadaz87: I know, but maybe turned a new leaf
[05:35] <xnull> wtf
[05:35] <agliv5> Warbo and post 12603 is what the table looked like before I wiped it out
[05:35] <xnull> I can`t do sudo
[05:35] <xnull> sudo su my pass and nothing happens
[05:35] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: have you set a few custom permission rules in /etc/udev/permissions.d/udev.permissions
[05:35] <bliss1_>  for kqemu?
[05:35] <Warbo> xnull: Are you in admin group?
[05:36] <agliv5> Warbo yesterday the world was in best order ;)
[05:36] <xnull> yes
[05:36] <OneSeventeen> tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys --exclude=/media /
[05:36] <nsmith> Amaranth: total 0
[05:36] <Warbo> xnull: Are your networking things OK?
[05:36] <eddie_stone> bitchx sux..
[05:36] <Amaranth> nsmith: err, that's not possible
[05:36] <xnull> emi@u2:~$ sudo -s
[05:36] <xnull> emi@u2:~$
[05:36] <xnull> nothing
[05:36] <OneSeventeen> and the output: backup.tgz  is 428255031 bytes... does that sound too small?
[05:36] <nsmith> Amaranth: thats what it says
[05:36] <Amaranth> nsmith: if you have a share file in your home dir then that should have listed it
[05:36] <libro> hola
[05:36] <libro> hello
[05:36] <Amaranth> nsmith: replace <username> with your username, if you didn't already
[05:37] <nsmith> Amaranth: did that
[05:37] <agliv5> Warbo, based on post 12603, how do I recreate my partations table?
[05:37] <Warbo> libro: Hello
[05:37] <OneSeventeen> so an entire system backup was less than half a gig with tar cvpzf?  (it is a server setup, but still...)
[05:37] <Frogzoo> bliss1_: I run the script from sudo, not exactly ideal
[05:37] <xnull> warbo: uid=1000(emi) gid=1000(emi) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),106(admin),1000(emi)
[05:37] <agliv5> hi libro
[05:37] <eddie_stone> what is the best irc client? (graphic)
[05:37] <nsmith> Amaranth:  There is a folder named share but if I do not think it is actually shared
[05:37] <xnull> ediie_stone: xchat
[05:38] <nsmith> Amaranth:  and I cannot get rid of it
[05:38] <libro> hello agliv5
[05:38] <libro> whats your name?
[05:38] <LadyVix> Warbo: I"m back :P
[05:38] <eddie_stone> ok thanks
[05:38] <ericbw> Hello!
[05:38] <agliv5> Libro Arne and your's? got a problem or just here to chat?
[05:39] <nsmith> Amaranth:  Anything else?
[05:39] <agliv5> I think we lost Warbo...
[05:39] <ericbw> My system loads acx module at bootup. But's not in /etc/modules, how happens this?
[05:39] <Warbo> agliv5: OK, so I can see that 1, 7 and 8 are independant, it is just 5 and 6
[05:39] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: ok , so i expect a pastebin of that is out of the question?
[05:39] <ericbw> I need to pass an option to acx, correcting the firmware version, but an /etc/modules entry does not work.
[05:39] <agliv5> Warbo 5, 6, and 2
[05:40] <agliv5> Warbo 5 is correct, 6 and 2 are wrong
[05:40] <Warbo> agliv5: It looks like 2 has been extended backwards, but it still fits seemlessly with 1
[05:40] <xnull> FUCK I CAN`t do sudo after I upgrade my box
[05:40] <jadaz87> !tell xnull about language
[05:40] <Warbo> xnull: Fix it in recovery (single)
[05:41] <bliss1_> xnull: less of the explitives man
[05:41] <agliv5> true, and there is a unintentinal gap between 1 and 5, but believe me 5 is correct
[05:41] <Warbo> LadyVix: Sorry but I was caught up trying to piece together this partition table
[05:41] <skp>  hi, ne idea how do i install gcc-3.2 on Breezy ?? ... in the sense ffmpeg works fine only with a compilation by gcc32
[05:41] <orbin> skp: so the repos compiled version doesn't work?
[05:42] <agliv5> Warbo, did you get that last post, forgot to address it ;)
[05:42] <LadyVix> Warbo: salright... :P I have to leave in 20 to head to work anyway... I'm going to play with Konqueror
[05:42] <Warbo> agliv5: First thing I would say is don't extend any partitions. Gaps don't matter, overlap does
[05:42] <bossa_nova> what was the big firefox update today? (i don't track ubuntu's version, i have my own build under /opt)
[05:42] <agliv5> I didn't extend any partitions
[05:42] <skp> orbin, no the binaries work like ffplay and ffmpeg
[05:42] <freezey> warbo: sorry what did u ask for my boss needed help with something
[05:42] <orbin> bossa_nova: 1.0.8
[05:42] <libro> pussy
[05:42] <agliv5> damm keep forgeting to address
[05:42] <skp> orbin, but if I code using libavcodecs and all its a prob
[05:42] <agliv5> Warbo I didn't extend anything
[05:43] <skp> orbin, basically I just somehow need to install gcc-3.2 ne help??
[05:43] <Warbo> freezey: I asked for the line from "mount" (by itself) which has that device in, just paste it in here as it is 1 line
[05:43] <xnull> emi@u2:~$ sudo su
[05:43] <xnull> emi@u2:~$
[05:43] <xnull>  hm its a bug in sudo
[05:43] <Frogzoo> bliss1_: please don't persist
[05:43] <bossa_nova> orbin: wow, that is a huge leap for them
[05:43] <Warbo> agliv5: I'm saying there is a gap between 1 and 5 but that isn't the problem
[05:43] <orbin> skp: i can't see it in the repos...
[05:43] <agliv5> skp have you tried apt-get install gcc?
[05:43] <bossa_nova> orbin: i have 1.5 :)
[05:43] <freezey> warbo: this one? /dev/sdc1 already mounted or /mnt busy
[05:43] <jadaz87> xnull the pasword input is not coming up right?
[05:43] <xnull> jadaz87: no
[05:43] <thoreauputic> xnull: try sudo -i
[05:43] <agliv5> Warbo yep
[05:44] <skp> agliv, that will give me gcc-4.0
[05:44] <orbin> bossa_nova: me too. 1.5.0.2 to be exact.  i just got the cpu spike that was supposed to be removed though :-/
[05:44] <xnull> emi@u2:~$ sudo -i
[05:44] <xnull> emi@u2:~$
[05:44] <xnull> \
[05:44] <Warbo> freezey: Run "mount" by itself and paste the line it gives about sdc1
[05:44] <xnull> nothing
[05:44] <skp> agliv, which is nuthing but problematic
[05:44] <orbin> s/removed/fixed
[05:44] <freezey> warbo: /dev/sdc1 on /media/New Volume type ntfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[05:44] <thoreauputic> xnull: odd
[05:44] <Warbo> Brb
[05:44] <jadaz87> xnull thoreauputic more and more breezy users are having this problem i have it every other time i rtestart/shutdown my laptop
[05:44] <Frogzoo> xnull: 'id' ?
[05:44] <bossa_nova> orbin: you are way ahead of me -- i have 1.5.0.1 =(
[05:44] <TokenBad> I have 1.0.7 firefox
[05:44] <agliv5> skp go to Synaptic packetmanager
[05:44] <TokenBad> how do I update it
[05:44] <skp> agliv, sudo apt-get install gcc
[05:44] <skp> Reading package lists... Done
[05:44] <skp> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:44] <skp> gcc is already the newest version.
[05:44] <skp> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 73 not upgraded.
[05:45] <xnull> frogzzo : uid=1000(emi) gid=1000(emi) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),106(admin),1000(emi)
[05:45] <xnull> 
[05:45] <thoreauputic> jadaz87: hrm - I don't see it here
[05:45] <orbin> bossa_nova: i suggest you upgrade ... takes 10 secs and it seems a bit quicker
[05:45] <skp> agliv, I know the repos dont have gcc-3.2
[05:45] <xnull> Ubuntu 6.06 "Dapper Drake" Development Branch \n \l
[05:45] <xnull> its dapper..
[05:45] <bossa_nova> TokenBad: hold on, I will paste a very useful link
[05:45] <xnull> where do I report the bug?:D
[05:45] <orbin> bossa_nova: instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:45] <agliv5> skp there should be an option to install previous versions
[05:45] <Warbo> back
[05:45] <ConfidentiaL> Have just reinstalled, but had a miss on the partitions. What are the normal contents of /home exept for the user's home folders?
[05:45] <Frogzoo> xnull: someone will know in #ubuntu+1
[05:45] <jadaz87> thoreauputic every other time i restart and try and do sudo all i get is a blinking cursor and no password input
[05:46] <bossa_nova> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:46] <mjr> ConfidentiaL, not really anything else, customarily
[05:46] <bossa_nova> TokenBad: damn, orbin beat me to it
[05:46] <Warbo> freezey: "sudo umount /media/New\ Volume" then retry the previous command (the sdc1 bust one)
[05:46] <thoreauputic> jadaz87: on breezy? Have you checked launchpad to see if anyone else is reporting this?
[05:46] <Jowi> xnull: bug-reporting for dapper : https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[05:46] <Warbo> busy
[05:46] <bossa_nova> orbin: yep, that's the walkthrough I followed, it was a few weeks ago though
[05:47] <MyLady> Warbo: *blinks*
[05:47] <jadaz87> thoreauputic no i have not but i have not been the only one in here who has had this problem the past couple of days
[05:47] <agliv5> Warbo like you said the gap between 1 and 5 isn't the problem, so what do I do to recreate the table?
[05:47] <orbin> bossa_nova: yes but moving from 1.5 to 1.5.0.2 is described there too
[05:47] <thoreauputic> jadaz87: worth reporting then - I can't confirm the bug here though
[05:47] <bossa_nova> TokenBad: that will get you the newest version, and you will learn a lot about how your bookmarks, extensions and profiles are managed with firefox
[05:48] <freezey> warbo: what was that command? sudo umount /media/new/volume
[05:48] <eddie_stone> does anybody uses the dapper version? is the stable?
[05:48] <Warbo> agliv5: Hang on hang on I'm thinkiing (the block numbers are going all blurry I'm thinking so hard)
[05:48] <freezey> warbo: was that it
[05:48] <Frogzoo> !dapper
[05:48] <bossa_nova> orbin: i'm a big dummy, i didn't read all the way to the end
[05:48] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[05:48] <GameCat> hi - can anyone tell me how to control the display power management while the machine is sitting waiting for someone to log in?
[05:48] <agliv5> Warbo, take your time :)
[05:48] <ConfidentiaL> is it possible to get lampp from apt-get ? or do I need to download it from the net?
[05:48] <Warbo> freezey: it is a backslash followed by a space between new and volume, and those 2 words start with captials
[05:48] <agliv5> Warbo, please don't explode ;)
[05:48] <Frogzoo> !lamp
[05:48] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:49] <orbin> bossa_nova: i didnt' find it @ first.  just click on the link in the box at the top saying upgrading from 1.5
[05:49] <orbin> it's basically 3 steps
[05:50] <freezey> warbo: ok as soon as i ran that command a dialog box came up (mnt - filebrowser)
[05:50] <freezey> warbo: oh sweet its mounted
[05:50] <freezey> warbo: /dev/sdc1 on /mnt type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000)
[05:50] <freezey> warbo: so now that drives name is /mnt ?
[05:51] <msoul> Hello, till now I haven't any useful info about configure xorg on my toshiba laptop
[05:51] <msoul> all I found was
[05:51] <thorre> is there a hardware compability list? i am having a bit of a problem with a HP nw8240, that laptop has a ATI Fire Gl v5000 gpu
[05:51] <thorre> is that supported by ubuntu?
[05:51] <msoul> http://eavr.u-strasbg.fr
[05:51] <msoul> and unfortunately this site -- down
[05:51] <orbin> thorre: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport == user's experience
[05:51] <Warbo> freezey: You may have to "sudo chown yourusername /mnt" Well, you didn't really get what I meant when I put /place/to/mount so I replaced it with /mnt. You can mount it to any folder that exists (don't do it directly to /home/username as it will make your settings invisible)
[05:52] <msoul> he has the same and had the same issue
[05:52] <orbin> thorre: next step is to search the forum if it's not there
[05:52] <thorre> ok
[05:52] <msoul> could anyone help me with my xorg.conf?
[05:52] <orbin> msoul: what's the issue?
[05:52] <msoul> orbin: I can't startx
[05:52] <msoul> all I see is blank blackscreen
[05:52] <orbin> msoul: did you get a blue screen?
[05:52] <freezey> warbo: ok so i can just create any folding and mount it to that one?
[05:52] <Jinkguns> I have a quick question, my laptop uses either ethernet or wireless, but when I don't have either connected during startup, it hangs for about 5 minutes before continuing to boot up, is there any way to fix this? Or is this a 'feature' ;)
[05:52] <orbin> msoul: can you get to a prompt?
[05:52] <Warbo> freezey: To make it permanent just add those details to /etc/fstab (the device, mount point [where it is put] , type, options and 0 0 at the end)
[05:52] <msoul> yeah that's what I did
[05:53] <msoul> by ctrl-alt f1
[05:53] <eddie_stone> what is the command to I see the entrymsg of a channel?
[05:53] <msoul> switching till f7 that it's blank
[05:53] <tabas> ola
[05:53] <tabas>  quetal
[05:53] <Warbo> freezey: Exactly (don't make it take over your Home folder, or any other important system folder. Only empty ones)
[05:53] <msoul> orbin: and I honestly don't know what to doi
[05:53] <orbin> msoul: run this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:53] <thoreauputic> eddie_stone:  /topic ?
[05:53] <orbin> msoul: what vg card btw?
[05:53] <msoul> orbin: I did
[05:53] <eddie_stone> thoffmeyer:  no, entrymsg
[05:53] <tabas> spanis
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> !es
[05:54] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:54] <thoreauputic> eddie_stone: erm - entrymsg ?
[05:54] <freezey> warbo: ok so how do i change the it tho
[05:54] <orbin> msoul: you did the reconfigure?
[05:54] <eddie_stone> maybe
[05:54] <thoreauputic> eddie_stone: what do you mean?
[05:54] <agliv5> Warbo, you don't need to fiqure out the start and end points for me... I just would like to know how to recreate the Table, the rest I'll figure out myself or with assistance later on...
[05:54] <msoul> orbin: yeah I did
[05:54] <Frogzoo> agliv5: fdisk
[05:55] <msoul> orbin: toshiba satellite m70 144
[05:55] <msoul> that's what I have
[05:56] <msoul> I've been trying everything
[05:56] <msoul> since yesterday with no success
[05:56] <agliv5> Frogzoo fdisk... then what?
[05:56] <orbin> msoul: lspci | grep VGA
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> thoreauputic: Some channles send a message to your server window upon joining.  He wants that.
[05:56] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: think I have solved it here is kernel line does the mem= the total  amount of RAM can use with qemu?  KQEMU installed, max_instances=4 max_locked_mem=88856kB.
[05:56] <MyLady> All: see you all later... I have to go to work now
[05:56] <Warbo> agliv5: I'm glancing through the man pages for parted, gpart and fdisk
[05:56] <thoreauputic> tonyyarusso: ah
[05:56] <eddie_stone> thoreauputic: when you enter in a channel, the chanserv sends a notice to you, with a message about the channel, this is the entrymessage
[05:57] <Warbo> freezey: Sorry, didn't understand that last post
[05:57] <freezey> warbo: i can just unmount it them remount it right?
[05:57] <Warbo> MyLady: Bye
[05:57] <freezey> warbo: to change the location?
[05:57] <thoreauputic> eddie_stone: what I see is the topic
[05:57] <agliv5> Warbo take your time, but as I said... you don't have to figure out the new start and end points for me
[05:57] <msoul> orbin: ati technologies: unknown device 5653
[05:57] <Warbo> freezey: Yes (the unmount command is just umount)
[05:57] <freezey> warbo: ok let me try this
[05:57] <orbin> msoul: sudo update-pciids
[05:57] <orbin> msoul: then re-run the last command
[05:58] <thoreauputic> eddie_stone: or do you mean the part that tells you how many are in the channel etc?
[05:58] <eddie_stone> thoreauputic: the topic isn't a notice
[05:58] <Frogzoo> bliss1_: try 'qemu -h'
[05:58] <Warbo> freezey: You can move it using mount --move oldfoler newfolder but that is more for moving folders around with filesystems (without actually moving them if you know what I mean)
[05:58] <eddie_stone> thoreauputic: for example, you can see at the fedora channel
[05:59] <orangehaw> is there an interface available to (gui) configure a printershare?
[05:59] <freezey> warbo: so now would the command just be "sudo umount /mnt
[05:59] <msoul> orbin: what last command if I may ask?
[05:59] <eddie_stone> thoreauputic: saw it?
[05:59] <msoul> the startx you mean?
[05:59] <jadaz87> hello whould this command copy all of the contents of new into skel?: sudo cp /home/joejaxx/Desktop/new/* /mnt/etc/skel/
[05:59] <vgoel> hi all...is there a way to update breezy to dapper without burning a cd? ie through apt or something
[05:59] <orbin> msoul: lspci | grep VGA
[05:59] <thoreauputic> eddie_stone: yes - I don't think we use that here so I didn't know about it
[05:59] <msoul> oh
[06:00] <jadaz87> !tell vgoel about upgrade
[06:00] <msoul> orbin: x700 pcie
[06:00] <thoreauputic> eddie_stone: maybe /msg chanserv help  can tell you
[06:00] <orbin> msoul: now do this: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf | tail -1
[06:00] <vgoel> thanks jadaz87
[06:00] <jadaz87> vgoel you are most welcome
[06:00] <eddie_stone> thoreauputic: maybe
[06:00] <eddie_stone> :)
[06:01] <jadaz87> thoreauputic  whould this command copy all of the contents of new into skel?: sudo cp /home/joejaxx/Desktop/new/* /mnt/etc/skel/
[06:01] <msoul> orbin: driver ati
[06:01] <freezey> warbo: thank you alot dude i get what your saying now
[06:01] <deejay> \o/
[06:01] <Toran> Hey guys, I'm having problems upgrading a package, could someone please take a look? http://pastebin.ca/raw/50173
[06:01] <deejay> \o/
[06:01] <thoreauputic> jadaz87: I think so, yes
[06:01] <orbin> msoul: ok, your vga card is an ati x700.  you're using the free ati driver which doesn't seem to be working.
[06:02] <deejay> \o/
[06:02] <orbin> msoul: let's try switching to vesa which is considered a failsafe driver
[06:02] <Jinkguns> I have a quick question, my laptop uses either ethernet or wireless, but when I don't have either connected during startup, it hangs for about 5 minutes before continuing to boot up, is there any way to fix this? Or is this a 'feature' ;)
[06:02] <bliss1_> Frogzoo; thanks for the -h command as well installed win2k do you think win 2003 server might be a possiblility?
[06:02] <msoul> orbin: Okie, how can I do that?
[06:02] <deejay> speak portuguese
[06:02] <thoreauputic> jadaz87: not sure if that catches all dot files
[06:02] <orbin> msoul: run this: sudo sed -e 's/"ati"/"vesa"/' -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:02] <deejay> I'm brasilian
[06:02] <deejay> \o/
[06:02] <orbin> deejay: a very happy one it seems
[06:02] <Warbo> agliv5: OK, I'm going on to cfdisk now which is suppored to be better
[06:02] <orbin> !pt
[06:02] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:03] <thoreauputic> deejay: can you stop that please ?
[06:03] <redguy> Toran: how about sudo apt-get remove libgl1-mesa ? This is a bug, you should report it
[06:03] <Frogzoo> bliss1_: should be mentioned in the qemu docs at the projects home site
[06:03] <Toran> redguy: I tried that and it was going to remove a LOT of packages I did not want removed
[06:03] <deejay> alguem fala portugues???
[06:03] <redguy> !tell eddieAWAY about away
[06:03] <deejay> \o/
[06:03] <thoreauputic> deejay: stop repeating
[06:03] <redguy> Toran: is this on breezy or dapper?
[06:03] <Toran> breezy
[06:03] <deejay> OK
[06:03] <freezey> warbo: check this out for me real fast just tell me if it looks righjt
[06:04] <Toran> Dapper has been released?
[06:04] <msoul> orbin: no such file or directory
[06:04] <Frogzoo> !dapper
[06:04] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[06:04] <Warbo> freezey: Give me a link
[06:04] <deejay> ABLAS ESPANHOL???
[06:04] <MenZa> !es
[06:04] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:04] <Toran> How do I remove that program without removing all of its dependencies?
[06:04] <eddieAWAY> !pachi
[06:04] <ubotu> eddieAWAY: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:04] <deejay> ^^
[06:04] <orbin> msoul: make sure you type it properly: captial X followed by two ones
[06:04] <Frogzoo> deejay: -> #ubunut-es
[06:04] <Frogzoo> deejay: -> #ubuntu-es
[06:04] <CNAP> ok i just upgraded my kernel to 2.15.6-20 last night and it seems like my NIC died. it's enabled, however it's not sending/receiving anything
[06:04] <deejay> como entro en el?
[06:05] <Frogzoo> CNAP: for dapper support -> #ubuntu+1
[06:05] <freezey> warbo: http://pastebin.com/671541
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> !pt
[06:05] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:05] <msoul> orbin: done
[06:05] <NoUse> !es
[06:05] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:05] <orbin> msoul: now type: startx
[06:05] <obscurite> is sysv-rc-conf a good tool to use?
[06:05] <jadaz87> thoreauputic how do i copy hidden files too?
[06:05] <MenZa> orbin: wouldn't /etc/init.d/gdm start be better?
[06:05] <MenZa> :p
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> obscurite: I thought it was great.
[06:05] <redguy> Toran: hmm, in fact xorg-driver-fglrx depends on libgl1-mesa. This is very odd...
[06:06] <orbin> MenZa: yes, yes it would :)
[06:06] <killian> why is print preview grayed out in gnome apps?
[06:06] <obscurite> tonyyarusso - what do you use now?
[06:06] <MenZa> orbin: :)
[06:06] <Toran> x_x
[06:06] <orbin> msoul: do what MenZa said
[06:06] <killian> what should i do?
[06:06] <thoreauputic> jadaz87: cp -a should do it from memory - but check the man
[06:06] <deejay> \o/
[06:06] <orbin> probably too late anyway
[06:06] <Bicchi> Will upgrading to Dapper replace my xorg.conf with a different one?
[06:06] <deejay> como entra no ubuntu br?
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> obscurite: Next time I need to change something I'll pull that one up again.
[06:06] <killian> why is print preview grayed out in gnome apps?
[06:06] <Warbo> agliv5: OK, I think just using cfdisk -z /dev/yourdevice will do, then recreate the partitions you want (don't restore 2 to it's original size, use the boundaries on the disk now) and I think that should work. Maybe try dd'ing the partition if that is an option (too big?)
[06:06] <msoul> orbin: MAN, much thanks
[06:06] <obscurite> tonyyarusso - thanks.
[06:06] <freezey> warbo: you get link?
[06:06] <msoul> orbin: thanks a million!
[06:06] <Frogzoo> killian: do you have a default printer configd?
[06:06] <orbin> msoul: works?
[06:06] <imbrandon> Bicchi: if it does it will back the old one up
[06:06] <msoul> yeah
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> deejay: Please listen.  The bot told you twice.
[06:06] <MenZa> yay for x
[06:06] <MenZa> :)
[06:06] <orbin> msoul: do you want 3d accel.?
[06:06] <Warbo> freezey: OK, try accessing /sdb1 or /sdc1 I don't think you can
[06:06] <killian> what do you mean?
[06:07] <freezey> warbo: when you say access do it through console?
[06:07] <msoul> orbin: whynot! I also want a tiny favoure from you, if you could send me an email or pm with what you just said to me
[06:07] <msoul> orbin: I honestly want to write that down somewhere
[06:07] <Warbo> freezey: Just access it with file manager as a normal user
[06:08] <we2by> how do I free ram?
[06:08] <orbin> msoul: getting 3d is a bit more difficult.  you need to use the proprietary binary driver from ati.com
[06:08] <TokenBad> in the .mozilla/firefox dir..what dirs should be in there?
[06:08] <imbrandon> close apps
[06:08] <freezey> warbo: yeah i just double click on the bitch and it open
[06:08] <NoUse> we2by close some programs
[06:08] <we2by> unload unused applications
[06:08] <msoul> orbin: something went wrong
[06:08] <marslee> hello where are you ?
[06:08] <tonyyarusso> orbin, msoul: You can get fglrx packaged for breezy.
[06:08] <stuart_> asdf
[06:08] <Frogzoo> marslee: I'm here, where are you?
[06:08] <freezey> warbo: but are these even recognized as hard drives?
[06:08] <MenZa> TokenBad:
[06:08] <MenZa> 829li20s.default  pluginreg.dat  profiles.ini  zs5b1u11.default
[06:08] <we2by> NoUse, doesn't linux keep libs in the memory when you close a program?
[06:08] <MenZa> That's what I have.. 1.5.0.2.
[06:08] <msoul> orbin: after I started it, I ctrl-alt f3 where I was then when I typed ctrl-alt f7 everything went the way it was
[06:09] <Warbo> freezey: Hang on, I was going to describe how to let normal users access and change them, but you can't with NTFS anyway :(
[06:09] <msoul> tonyyarusso: from? :-)
[06:09] <NoUse> we2by not that I know of
[06:09] <freezey> warbo: yeah its cool its only me on here
[06:09] <we2by> I think it does
[06:09] <Warbo> freezey: Yes. hd is internal IDE sd is internal SCSI. The scsi has been extended to SATA and USB as well
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: tell msoul about seveas
[06:09] <killian> i want to print 2 pages in one
[06:09] <freezey> warbo: ok
[06:09] <killian> how do i do it?
[06:09] <jadaz87> tonyyarusso lets say i want to copy the contents of a directory to another directory and the first directory has hidden files what whould the command line for that be
[06:09] <marslee> which city are you in?
[06:09] <NoUse> we2by are you talking about virtual memory or phyiscal memory?
[06:09] <freezey> warbo: this stuff inside these folders can i erase it?
[06:10] <we2by> physical memory
[06:10] <orbin> tonyyarusso: good point
[06:10] <hmrocha> is there any channel where i can speak with the people responsible for packaging the nfs utilities?
[06:10] <Warbo> freezey: I mean so you wouldn't have to be root to save to the disc, but you can't save files to NTFS (read only 'cos they're not sure how it works)
[06:10] <orbin> msoul: you have a 32bit system right?
[06:10] <Warbo> freezey: No, you can't
[06:10] <NoUse> we2by no linux will only keep running apps in physical memory
[06:10] <Frogzoo> !bug
[06:10] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[06:10] <killian> i want to print 2 pages in one
[06:10] <freezey> warbo: word ok thanks alot warbo
[06:10] <freezey> warbo: wanna help me out with something else now? lol
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> jadaz87: I don't know if you have to do anything special for hidden files in cp...
[06:10] <freezey> warbo: u been helpin me for like 3 hours now
[06:10] <NoUse> we2by and as you need more, it will swap stuff into the swap partition
[06:10] <Warbo> freezey: What is it?
[06:11] <Frogzoo> jadaz87: just cp .* newdir
[06:11] <we2by> NoUse, I jsut noticed wehn it started swapping, my system works a bit slow
[06:11] <freezey> warbo: which sould i use to network this linux server with my other windows servers... samba seems to be the best bet
[06:11] <we2by> it react slow on my actions
[06:11] <orbin> msoul: transcript: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12608
[06:11] <Toran> Is there a way to remove a .deb without removing any of its dependencies?
[06:11] <NoUse> we2by swaping will slow stuff down
[06:11] <Warbo> freezey: Yes Samba, but I've never used it so I know nothing about it (that's the truth)
[06:12] <freezey> warbo: and then i am gonna set up this linux server as an FTP maybe or an SSH so people can login into and access certain files on a read only basis
[06:12] <we2by> so, in other words you need about 1GB to run some standard apps a average user would uses
[06:12] <Frogzoo> we2by: a little swapping is ok, but if it's constant, add more memory, or close down the apps you don't need open
[06:12] <NoUse> we2by no
[06:12] <we2by> and still maintain a good performance
[06:12] <freezey> warbo: which do you think is best FTP, SFTP, or SSH
[06:12] <NoUse> we2by use top to see what is using the memory
[06:12] <TokenBad> MenZa, hmm...I don't have all that in my dir
[06:12] <Warbo> freezey: OK, but I've only ever copy/pated ssh commands from other people before
[06:12] <msoul> orbin just a sec
[06:12] <imbrandon> we2by: nah i have 1gig ram installed but rarely use more than 256mb at any one time
[06:13] <we2by> I'm using 175mb from swap :\
[06:13] <NoUse> we2by I ran my desktop on 256MB for a long time, I recently upgraded to 768 and it's much better now
[06:13] <Warbo> freezey: I think sftp, ssh would let people run programs
[06:13] <MenZa> TokenBad: install Firefox 1.5.0.2 from scratch then :)
[06:13] <freezey> warbo: yeah i only need it so i can set up usr accnt's i guess i will give those usr accounts there own directory and only let them access certain files u know?
[06:13] <TokenBad> I did it the way the help page said
[06:13] <Frogzoo> we2by: that's very unusual - with top running, hit 'M' to see what's using all your memory
[06:13] <TokenBad> and I want all my bookmarks back
[06:14] <freezey> warbo: does that sound like a job that SFTP can carry out?
[06:14] <Frogzoo> we2by: just btw, you're not running ff 1.0.7 are you?
[06:14] <we2by> it is Java that uses 17% of my ram
[06:14] <we2by> Frogzoo, nope. I use epiphany
[06:14] <NoUse> we2by thats one of Java's features
[06:14] <Warbo> freezey: They will need read access to lots of system files just to do anything. They can't screw up your system, but they can see loads of files. I don't really know much about running servers actually
[06:14] <NoUse> we2by massive memory consuption
[06:15] <freezey> warbo: thanks tho you helped me out alot here
[06:15] <freezey> warbo: gotta smoke a stoge lol brb
[06:15] <Warbo> freezey: np
[06:15] <jadaz87> Frogzoo it is omitting directories :-(
[06:15] <imbrandon> MemTotal:      1286376 kB
[06:15] <imbrandon> MemFree:        982312 kB
[06:15] <freezey> warbo: dam after mounting drives and sittin here doing that for like 3 hours feels like just getting some dome from a chick gotta get up and stretch smoke a stoge
[06:15] <freezey> warbo: lol
[06:15] <imbrandon> bout 300mb used
[06:15] <imbrandon> 0 swap
[06:16] <imbrandon> and i got a ton of crap running ( in KDE no less )
[06:16] <marslee> Hi man where are you from?
[06:16] <dilyx> Have a question about Wine on ubuntu.. I get this error when starting Wine.. what does it mean, i guess it have something to do with my 3dcard, becouse it mentions something about $display isnt set correctly.. here is the error: err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[06:16] <NoUse> we2by what app are you running that runs in Java?
[06:16] <msoul> orbin: sorry back
[06:17] <Frogzoo> jadaz87: if you're copying whole directories, just 'cp -r dir1 dir2' should do it
[06:17] <msoul> I'm updating now
[06:17] <CNAP> my NIC is picking up all the necessary info from the DHCP but i still can't ping or hit the net. any suggestions?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> dilyx,  run wine as the same user that loggedingo X. perhaps. as a start.
[06:17] <orbin> msoul: so the gui's fine now?
[06:17] <Frogzoo> dilyx: does 'wine notepad' work?
[06:17] <imbrandon> we2by: what java app are you running? azureus ? lime/frost wire ?
[06:18] <orbin> msoul: i have to go soon.  so if you have any more questions. ask them
[06:18] <dilyx> Frogzoo: i get the error when trying to start notepad
[06:18] <Frogzoo> dilyx: what about 'xclock' ?
[06:18] <dilyx> Works!!
[06:18] <msoul> orbin: yeah but if I switch to ctrl-alt f1 and return everything get messed up
[06:18] <Frogzoo> dilyx: that's odd...
[06:19] <orbin> msoul: you mean moving to console and back stuffs it up?
[06:19] <dilyx> Frogzoo: i know, many ppl have the same error, but no one seems to solve it :(
[06:19] <dilyx> :P
[06:19] <msoul> orbin: yeah so I had to ctrl ^c then starx
[06:19] <msoul> startx
[06:19] <imbrandon> dilyx: run notepad as the same use that logged into x
[06:19] <kavefish> is there a way to view the pacakge available to apt-get from the command line?  I'm looking for something akin to 'yum list'
[06:20] <dilyx> same error
[06:20] <Warbo> kavefish: apt-cache search
[06:20] <dilyx> alot of err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[06:20] <kavefish> Warbo, thanks muchly
[06:20] <CNAP> my NIC is picking up all the necessary info from the DHCP but i still can't ping or hit the net. any suggestions?
[06:20] <imbrandon> kavefish: apt-cache
[06:20] <msoul> orbin: is that normal or something?
[06:20] <tRSS> is it possible to run os x applications in linux? Something like wine for win32 applications.
[06:20] <ramza3> hello
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> tRSS,  not very easially. :P
[06:20] <Warbo> tRSS: Are you on a PowerPC?
[06:20] <ramza3> anybody know the args for 'curl' to print the size of the document downloaded
[06:21] <tRSS> Warbo: no. I am on intel. but I have dualboot with (K)Ubuntu and OS X
[06:21] <jadaz87> Frogzoo i want to copy the contents of dir1 to dir2
[06:21] <tRSS> Dr_Willis: now I like challanges! :)
[06:21] <Frogzoo> jadaz87: so just 'cp -r dir1 dir2'
[06:21] <CNAP> how can i downgrade a kernel upgrade?
[06:21] <orbin> msoul: probably not :-/  you should be able to move back and forth b/n f1 and f7
[06:21] <Warbo> tRSS: Intel OSX is too new for any decent virtualiser/emulator
[06:21] <imbrandon> jadaz87: cp -R dir1/* dir2
[06:21] <dilyx> If anyone comes up with a solution to this wine error: err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color! please give me a call!!
[06:21] <dilyx> :)
[06:22] <Frogzoo> CNAP: just install the old kernel, & select from the grub prompt
[06:22] <ramza3> anybody know what curl is?
[06:22] <orbin> msoul: no that much of a biggie right? maybe when you use the ati driver it will fix that
[06:22] <Warbo> tRSS: You may be able to run SheepShaver or PearPC to emulate PowerPC Macs, but it will have a big performance hit
[06:22] <jadaz87> imbrandon Frogzoo cp: cannot stat `new/*': No such file or directory
[06:22] <agliv5> Warbo cfdisk isn't working because I'm booting from a liveCD...
[06:22] <imbrandon> jadaz87:  then new dosent exist
[06:22] <orbin> ramza3: apt-cache show curl
[06:22] <jadaz87> frogzoo your command just copys dir1 into dir2 not the contents of dir1
[06:22] <msoul> orbin: shall I switch to ati driver?
[06:22] <ramza3> orbin: kidding
[06:22] <jadaz87> imbrandon no it does
[06:22] <orbin> msoul: are you on a 32 bit system?
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> msoul: It is a known bug in fglrx that there are issues with console switching.
[06:23] <msoul> orbin: yeah
[06:23] <msoul> tonyyarusso: ohh
[06:23] <tRSS> Warbo: I was looking for something that avoided the emulation of the whole OS
[06:23] <bliss1_> Frogzoo; yep found something in docs thanks, if you have a large swap partition then the more virtual memory?
[06:23] <msoul> tonyyarusso: well I'm upgradding now
[06:23] <orbin> ramza3: meh, i don't know what it is :-/
[06:23] <CNAP> frogzoo: i never installed a bootloader. i upgraded to the 2.15 kernel thru apt-get
[06:23] <Warbo> agliv5: Hmmm. Is there a similar option for fdisk (even fdisk manual says use cfdisk) like the -z to not read the partition table (so you can make it yourself)
[06:23] <msoul> tonyyarusso: do you think that would do the job?
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> msoul: Harangue ATI a bit to fix it ;)
[06:23] <Warbo> tRSS: And the architecture
[06:23] <tRSS> Warbo: true
[06:23] <orbin> msoul: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI use the seveas method
[06:23] <forsberg> Hi! Are there any documentation/recommendations/whatever on how to upgrade a Debian Sarge to Ubuntu Dapper Drake? I've tried googling for this, but haven't found anything useful.
[06:23] <msoul> tonyyarusso: whatcha mean? :-)
[06:23] <orbin> msoul: it's further down the page
[06:23] <msoul> orbin: lemme check
[06:24] <ramza3> orbin: transfer documents through urls; best web browser in my opinion, kidding
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> msoul: At this time, I don't think you can have accel without issues, so you need to choose which is more important to you.
[06:24] <TokenBad> what was the url for that firefox update?
[06:24] <Seveas> msoul, if you decide to do the 'Seveas method' - wait a few hours
[06:24] <msoul> tonyyarusso: all I want is to have a gui :-)
[06:24] <imbrandon> forsberg: upgrade to sid then horray then breezy then dapper, its the only way
[06:24] <Seveas> I'm going to update the drivers later today
[06:24] <Warbo> forsberg: 1) Back up any valuable data 2) Try upgrading 3) Format disc with Dapper install CD 5) copy back backups
[06:24] <orbin> ramza3: any advantages over wget?
[06:24] <Frogzoo> forsberg: can't be done afaik
[06:24] <imbrandon> forsberg: upgrade to sid then horray then breezy then dapper, its the only way
[06:25] <ramza3> orbin: I use it for web development; you can see the web document and also get header info
[06:25] <jadaz87> frogzoo your command just copys dir1 into dir2 not the contents of dir1
[06:25] <simon___> ramza3: The best webbrowser is telnet
[06:25] <Warbo> imbrandon: hoary (picky but important)
[06:25] <ramza3> simon___: damn straight
[06:25] <msoul> saveas:thanks, I'm greatful to most of the guys here, orbin, tonyyarusso and Frogzoo
[06:25] <tonyyarusso> imbrandon: Going from sid to Hoary would be backwards.
[06:25] <forsberg> imbrandon: horray? What's that?
[06:25] <orbin> ramza3: sounds sweet
[06:25] <Frogzoo> msoul: glad you got a result - finally!
[06:25] <orbin> msoul: they'll help you out.  i'm off.  happy ubuntu'ing
[06:25] <msoul> orbin: thanks man I really appreciate it
[06:26] <orbin> no sweat
[06:26] <Frogzoo> forsberg: hoary
[06:26] <dkk> #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog
[06:27] <mlehrer> what about yggdrasil
[06:27] <jmhodges> hey, all.  what's this i'm seeing in update-manager's Changes? something about being able to update to Dapper?
[06:27] <forsberg> tonyarruso: That's my impression as well - AFAIK, hoary was frozen somewhere before Sarge became stable. I can't see why I should need to upgrade to sid, before going dapper, though.
[06:27] <msoul> tonyyarusso: do I need to save anything? or it's alright
[06:27] <Frogzoo> bye bye dkk
[06:28] <Seveas> utgh
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> msoul: Back up /etc/X11/xorg.conf before any changes to GUI drivers, etc.
[06:28] <msoul> I got a blue screen now
[06:28] <msoul> hrm
[06:29] <dkk> #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog #yellowdog
[06:29] <jadaz87> !ops
[06:29] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[06:29] <Frogzoo> ok, that's twice
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> 16 seconds.
[06:30] <Seveas> /kick tonyyarusso 15
[06:30] <slackern> we should all just join the chan and camp it to death with our boring *nix talk :)
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: Ah, I'm lagged by 1.05 ;)
[06:30] <apokryphos> slackern: chances are it's not a member of that chan spamming in here
[06:30] <bliss1_> erUSUL: hi
[06:31] <erUSUL> hi
[06:31] <slackern> apokryphos: ahh thats true, good point :)
[06:31] <redguy> is this the infamous turkish spam ?
[06:31] <dilyx> the world is a horror when google cant find what im looking for :( :P
[06:31] <slackern> hehe
[06:31] <nsmith> are there any manuals online for Ubuntu?
[06:32] <Frogzoo> !docs
[06:32] <ubotu> docs is probably an index of documentation on the Ubuntu Wiki - you can find it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[06:32] <Printer> Hey all
[06:32] <slackern> What you looking for dilyx?
[06:32] <newbie33> gnomefreak, are you here?
[06:32] <tonyyarusso> nsmith: Oodles.
[06:32] <Logi> I've got a dell d610 which is running kubuntu dapper flight 6 beautifully except that the hard disk seems to lock up occasionally when I resume from suspend. It looks like it's fixed by the patches this guy (http://home.comcast.net/~canez/d610/#kernel) is talking about for debian on kernel 2.6.12, but is there a cleaner way?
[06:32] <nsmith> tonyyarusso: can you give me a link?
[06:32] <dilyx> some error i get in Wine.. when trying to run notepad..
[06:32] <Printer> Is there a fix for printing to a Samba printer for Dapper?  My printers just pause when sending a job.
[06:32] <Logi> ~kernel
[06:33] <dilyx> err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> nsmith: Use the one from ubotu right there.  The wiki has 7,045 pages of docs currently.
[06:33] <nsmith> tonyyarusso: ok thanks
[06:33] <slackern> Logi: You should try #ubuntu+1 thats the devel channel.
[06:33] <gilligan_> hey, does anyone know how I can compile modpost ? I just installed kernel headers but don't understand how I can compile the tools in the /scripts subdir
[06:33] <opsss> #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake #yake
[06:34] <Logi> slackern: so anything to do with * flight ? goes there?
[06:34] <Frogzoo> gilligan_: read the INSTALL & README that came with the source
[06:34] <apokryphos> Seveas: thing is that they're almost too rare for +r
[06:34] <apokryphos> and yet still very annoying
[06:34] <slackern> Logi: I guess it's prefered to keep things sorted.
[06:34] <Logi> ah, I just grokked the +1
[06:35] <slackern> Logi: But that issue might be related to breezy too i guess.
[06:35] <Juhaz> apokryphos, they're identified
[06:35] <Logi> slackern: probably, although the kernel version has changed
[06:35] <nalioth_zZz> Seveas: is not here, apokryphos
[06:36] <nsmith> tonyyarusso: I was hoping for a manual or something downloadable.  Maybe pdf format or whatever.
[06:36] <apokryphos> Juhaz: how do you know?
[06:36] <nalioth_zZz> apokryphos: and i've already suggested a fix for ubugtu that should stop all this nonsense, registered user or not
[06:36] <nalioth_zZz> apokryphos: some are identified and some are not
[06:36] <Frogzoo> nsmith: try the online gnome help - click on the lifesaver icon
[06:36] <erUSUL> gilligan_: modpost is builded when you build the kernel afaik
[06:36] <apokryphos> nalioth_zZz: since they're generally of the same nature it would seem a good idea to to, yes.
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> nsmith: Actually, I did download the wiki.  Other than that, Dapper also has the "Ubuntu Desktop Guide" built in by default.
[06:36] <Juhaz> apokryphos, nickserv info. and #python was just hit, and it's +r
[06:37] <|lostbyte_laptop> which package has all the win codecs ?
[06:37] <apokryphos> ok, we'll wait on that Ubugtu fix 8)
[06:37] <nalioth_zZz> apokryphos: when seveas gets back, i'll poke him again
[06:37] <Frogzoo> !restricted
[06:37] <nsmith> tonyyarusso: Where did you downlaod the wiki
[06:37] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:37] <Caminomaster> Hello
[06:37] <apokryphos> nalioth_zZz: thing is, Ubugtu can only automatically ban/kick, not prevent it from happening.
[06:37] <Frogzoo> |lostbyte_laptop: see ubotu's post ^^
[06:38] <Caminomaster> Anybody uses CNC software?
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> nsmith: Hold on a sec, I'll get you the command.  (Be warned, 7000 http request resolutions take a long time - 3 hours for me.)
[06:38] <|lostbyte_laptop> ok :)
[06:38] <gilligan_> erUSUL, there is neither INSTALL nor README in linux-headers-686 (i.e the current headers it depends on)
[06:38] <nsmith> tonyyarusso: ok
[06:38] <flickerfly> I have a ubuntu server with several users on it (large family). Several of them have lost the ability to log in through GDM or ssh to the computer. Any idea what might cause this or what to look for?
[06:38] <Caminomaster> I need software to program a Spectralight and a ECO
[06:38] <Caminomaster> EmCO
[06:39] <patrick221> !apache
[06:39] <ubotu> apache is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:39] <Frogzoo> flickerfly: try removing the ~/.ICEauthority & have them log back in
[06:40] <tonyyarusso> nsmith: wget --no-check-certificate --force-html --convert-links --mirror https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:40] <nsmith> tonyyarusso: thanks
[06:40] <flickerfly> Frogzoo: one of the accounts with this problem does not have an ~/.ICEauthority file in ~
[06:40] <tonyyarusso> nsmith: It comes in at about 100MB, and if you .tar.bz2 it, that's only about 10MB.
[06:41] <nsmith> tonyyarusso: ok thanks
[06:41] <Frogzoo> flickerfly: any clues in /var/logs/auth*
[06:41] <flickerfly> Frogzoo: I tried that on another that had it, didn't work
[06:42] <flickerfly> Frogzoo: Apr 20 12:41:26 localhost sshd[8490] : (pam_unix) authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=localhost.localdomain  user=john
[06:42] <flickerfly> Apr 20 12:41:28 localhost sshd[8490] : Failed password for john from 127.0.0.1 port 49965 ssh2
[06:42] <Frogzoo> flickerfly: humding - what's john doing with uid=0 ?
[06:43] <wxz> #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta
[06:43] <Frogzoo> boooooo
[06:43] <flickerfly> Frogzoo: from /etc/passwd "john:x:1004:1004:John Colein,,,:/home/john:/bin/bash"
[06:44] <dudeee> #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta #vesta
[06:44] <obscurite> oh redhat based systems you can chkconfig --list to see what services are enabled for what runlevels. is there an equivalent? i dont see how to do that with update-rc.d
[06:44] <beerockxs> whenever I run gedit with sudo, i get lots of errors like this in the console: Audio device open for 44.1Khz, stereo, 16bit failed Trying 44.1Khz, 8bit stereo.
[06:44] <nsmith> I have a bunch of PDF forms that I need to fill out.  The document viewer in Ubuntu does not allow form filling nor does the Adobe Acrobat reader for Ubuntu.  Is there another application that allows form filling for PDF files?
[06:44] <Frogzoo> too slow: dudeee    H   0  n=claa@c-69-251-123-187.hsd1.md.comcast.net [malpp] 
[06:45] <Seveas> @reload exploitban
[06:45] <Seveas> #ubuntu #ubuntu #ubuntu #ubuntu #ubuntu #ubuntu #ubuntu #ubuntu
[06:46] <agliv5> Warbo & everyone else whom are intersted I restored the partitions table using fdisk  If anyone wants to know how, I'd be happy to inform them
[06:46] <agliv5> :
[06:46] <agliv5> )
[06:46] <Frogzoo> flickerfly: any chance you're expiring passwords?
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: Very nice.
[06:46] <flickerfly> Frogzoo: not intentionally
[06:46] <high> nsmith: perhaps acrobat for windows on wine?
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: Did you just write that in the last few minutes?
[06:47] <nsmith> high: windows on wine? I do not know what that is.
[06:47] <xet7> If I install Drapper Drake beta, how easy it is to upgrade to final version?
[06:47] <beerockxs> whenever I run gedit with sudo, i get lots of errors like this in the console: Audio device open for 44.1Khz, stereo, 16bit failed Trying 44.1Khz, 8bit stereo.
[06:47] <flickerfly> Frogzoo: I just reset the password using passwd instead of the GUI interface and it seems to have taken this time.
[06:47] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, s/few minutes/minute/
[06:47] <topyli> xet7: you won't even know
[06:47] <apokryphos> Seveas: looks good
[06:47] <high> nsmith: wine is a kind of emulator that lets you run windows programs on windows
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: I'm impressed.
[06:47] <flickerfly> Frogzoo: maybe I don't know what I'm doing with the GUI :-) Thanks for your help
[06:48] <nsmith> high: does it require a windows operating system?
[06:48] <Frogzoo> flickerfly: yw, cheers
[06:48] <high> I'm not sure, I think not
[06:48] <xet7> topyli: thanks :)
[06:48] <zeus> l
[06:48] <me2win> nsmith: it does not, but not all programs work under it
[06:49] <Warbo> agliv5: WOW Wasn't ecpecting to hear that
[06:49] <Warbo> Anyway got to go
[06:49] <high> nsmith: http://www.winehq.com
[06:49] <CNAP> i have a NIC that used to be recognized by linux but doesn't anymore. how can i fix it?
[06:49] <nsmith> I downloaded acroread from synaptic but it for some reason will not allow me to fill out forms.  The windows version does.  Why is that?
[06:50] <high> nsmith: old version perhaps?
[06:51] <CNAP> i have a NIC that used to be recognized by linux but doesn't anymore. how can i fix it?
[06:51] <nsmith> high: is wine an operating system?
[06:52] <Frogzoo> !wine
[06:52] <topyli> nsmith: no, it's a windows api for linux
[06:52] <high> nsmith: more of an emulator
[06:52] <Frogzoo> high: not quite correct - wine is a native linux implementation of the win32 api
[06:52] <newbie33> please help, how to run auto reconfiguration of gnome
[06:52] <newbie33> Iam in console
[06:53] <newbie33> after dist-upgrade gnome not runs :/
[06:53] <Caminomaster> Someone who knows CNC software??
[06:53] <high> Frogzoo: Yeah, I know they don't call it an emulator =) But its a good word for explaining kind of what it is =)
[06:53] <nsmith> after installing wine I just install the windows program?
[06:54] <Frogzoo> high: just wanted to underline the fact that wine is native performance, not slow like an emulator would be (eg vmware)
[06:54] <davidwinter> hey all. I'm trying to play a wmv file in VLC player (though I'm happy to use any video player so long as it works!). I'm getting the following error when trying to play (sound works fine)
[06:54] <high> ok
[06:54] <Frogzoo> nsmith: yup 'wine setup.exe'   like that
[06:54] <davidwinter> main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `wmv3`.
[06:54] <topyli> nsmith: yes, and some apps may even work
[06:54] <NoUse> !tell davidwinter about wmv
[06:55] <high> Here you have info on how acrobat reader works in wine -> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=4604
[06:55] <nsmith> excellent
[06:55] <nsmith> we will see
[06:55] <Frogzoo> topyli: with some effort, you can get most of the apps listed in appdb to work
[06:55] <fak3r> does anyone have NetworkManager working with WPA support on PPC?  I have everything installed/config'd like I should via the wiki and no WPA
[06:56] <topyli> Frogzoo: i guess. i haven't played with wine, all those apps seem to work fine on my windows box :)
[06:56] <davidwinter> NoUse, I've installed the w32codecs as on that page
[06:56] <CNAP> i have a NIC that used to work, but now it's not even recognized by the OS. any help would be appreciated!
[06:56] <NoUse> davidwinter try using mplayer for windows media files
[06:56] <davidwinter> however, do I need to set-up anything after that? because after installing the deb package, the files still don't work
[06:56] <mikelo> hi i need help!!!
[06:56] <NoUse> davidwinter thats what I use and it works great
[06:56] <Frogzoo> topyli: once you see WoW running natively, you realise wine has a lot of potential - and this is still early days
[06:56] <davidwinter> ok, will do - installing mplayer
[06:57] <yyyyy> please help me
[06:57] <Frogzoo> !helpme
[06:57] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:57] <yyyyy> i want to run live cd on my pc
[06:57] <mikelo> when i try to mount my ext3 partion it says it's empty!!
[06:57] <mikelo> i have all my data in it!!
[06:57] <topyli> Frogzoo: yeah well, early days may not ever be over for wine. the windows api is a moving target, or so i hear
[06:57] <yyyyy> but it couldn't actually start
[06:58] <yyyyy> it couldn't initialize the graphic panel
[06:58] <yyyyy> just the picture stops with gray picture and mouse pointer on it
[06:58] <davidwinter> NoUse, in Synaptic, there are lots of different mplayer packages... could you point me towards the correct one to install, please?
[06:58] <mikelo> can anybody help me out!!
[06:58] <mikelo> please...
[06:59] <Frogzoo> topyli: there was a time people said linux would never catch windows, or run on the desktop, etc - only a matter of time
[06:59] <NoUse> davidwinter if you run AMD use mplayer-k7, for Intel mplayer-686
[06:59] <yyyyy> on my other machine it runs
[06:59] <davidwinter> thanks NoUse
[06:59] <mikelo> hey guys
[07:00] <yyyyy> the first one that wouldn't run the live cd is MSI k8neo4 with 3000 s.939
[07:00] <topyli> Frogzoo: we'll see. it would be nice to see succes on that front too. i'm happy with the native apps i have though
[07:00] <davidwinter> while that's installing... which email client is better? Evolution or Thunderbird?
[07:00] <yyyyy> and the second one which is ok is v88 mboard with 2.13 celeron D
[07:00] <obscurite> anyone know how to do an equivalent of "chkconfig --list" on ubuntu?
[07:00] <mikelo> hi Frogzoo, can u help me please i can't mount my partition
[07:01] <Frogzoo> mikelo: what happens 'mount -t ext3 /dev/hda# /mnt'   ?
[07:01] <obscurite> davidwinter - i've been using evolution because thunderbird seemed quirky when I used it. but that was a couple of revisions ago.
[07:02] <obscurite> davidwinter - i have a feeling thunderbird is lighter weight
[07:02] <davidwinter> NoUse, thanks! that works great!! (mplayer)
[07:02] <mikelo> Frogzoo it mounts, but when do cd mnt the directory is empty
[07:03] <davidwinter> obscurite, k, thanks - I think I'll try 'em both out quick
[07:03] <xorian> Hi, I jsut wanted to stop by to say that those of use over on #vesta have NOT been spamming other channels.  I heard you guys got hit wil some spam mentioning our channel.  We're just a humble free software project.
[07:03] <bert> Hello everybody and everybody hello
[07:03] <Frogzoo> mikelo: are you sure you're mounting the right partition?
[07:03] <davidwinter> NoUse, in mplayer, when I start it up, I get an error about a missing font. is that normal?
[07:03] <bert> Anyone up for helping me? :D
[07:03] <Frogzoo> what's the best calendaring app that supports alarms?
[07:03] <topyli> davidwinter: apt-get install mplayer-fonts
[07:03] <aurore> salu
[07:04] <xorian> That and thanks for Ubuntu, which works great on my IBM T43.  :)
[07:04] <flickerfly> Frogzoo: google calendar? Does SMS alarms
[07:04] <mikelo> Frogzoo, yup, i'm pretty sure, is hda a partition too?
[07:04] <Frogzoo> aurore: bonjour - pour conversation en francais allez au #ubuntu-fr
[07:04] <aurore> je suis aurore et vous
[07:04] <aurore> je cherche lame soeur
[07:04] <bert> I have done all the options for installing the drivers for my PowerColor ATI Radeon 9800PRO 128MB... But when I go to load a game.. such as, Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, it says that, "mesa3d" does not support hardware excelleration...
[07:04] <bert> Any ideas?
[07:04] <Frogzoo> mikelo: nope hda is the whole drive - it should have the partition number afterwards, eg /dev/hda1
[07:05] <Frogzoo> !lame
[07:05] <ubotu> Frogzoo: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:05] <Frogzoo> !fr
[07:05] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:05] <rem__> !nl
[07:05] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[07:05] <rem__> lol
[07:05] <mikelo> Frogzoo, ok then hda2 is the right partition
[07:06] <Eyel-e-ss> hey everyone. just wondering, does 5.10 support the ATI X850 on live cd??
[07:06] <Frogzoo> mikelo: so now mount it, & hopefully your data's still in tact
[07:06] <ConfidentiaL> how do I add users and priveleges to phpmyadmin?
[07:06] <mikelo> Frogzoo, i don't know what to do, df -h says it's empty
[07:07] <Frogzoo> mikelo: it won't have just disappeared without being deliberately deleted - pls pastebin 'sudo fstab -l /dev/hda'
[07:07] <mikelo> Frogzoo, it's 33GB of data that doesn't appear
[07:07] <Frogzoo> ^^
[07:07] <mikelo> Frogzoo, ok
[07:08] <Frogzoo> mikelo: sorry, 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda'
[07:08] <mikelo> Frogzoo, i'll have to type it cause i'm not even able to run xchat
[07:09] <mikelo> Frogzoo, i'm connecting from another machine
[07:09] <NoUse> davidwinter sorry, you only need fonts for DVD subtitles
[07:09] <Frogzoo> mikelo: no need - but that will give you a list of partitions - look for the ones listed as ext3
[07:09] <NoUse> davidwinter you should be fine
[07:09] <joecartun> hi
[07:10] <Eyel-e-ss> anyone fancy answering a question? *total newbie here*
[07:10] <Frogzoo> !helpme
[07:10] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[07:10] <Eyel-e-ss> does utbuntu 5.10 support the ATI X850 on live cd??
[07:10] <mikelo> Frogzoo, it lists them as Linux not ext3
[07:10] <Frogzoo> mikelo: ok, id should = 83
[07:10] <mikelo> Frogzoo, yup
[07:11] <Frogzoo> mikelo: mount them one by one & try & find your data
[07:11] <bert> Anyone have any idea how come it says Mesa3d.org does nots upport hardware excelleration, when I try to play Wolf:ET... and I've installed all the drivers PERFECTLY..
[07:11] <Eyel-e-ss> i've tried running it but i get a res. that is un-usable and colours all.....brown and black
[07:11] <aurore>  goss
[07:11] <aurore> ki veut coucher ac moi se soir
[07:11] <mikelo> Frogzoo, my root partition mounts ok
[07:11] <aurore> serieu
[07:11] <aurore> je ve coucher se soir
[07:11] <aurore> i love you
[07:11] <aurore> en ne
[07:12] <Frogzoo> Eyel-e-ss: the live cd's stock resolution needs adjustment, unfortunately - run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[07:12] <khamael> how can I check what lib a binary is using?
[07:12] <Frogzoo> aurore: arrete - assez
[07:12] <mikelo> Frogzoo, my other one does not
[07:12] <aurore> sex
[07:12] <void^> khamael: ldd
[07:12] <Eyel-e-ss> Frogzoo how would i go about that? lol i can't read the screen as its all brown and black with nothing visable on screen :/
[07:12] <bert> Anyone have any idea', how to fix the problem in which it says, www.mesa3d.org does not support hardware accelleration, so I can't play my game...
[07:12] <mikelo> Frogzoo, i tried mounting them
[07:13] <mikelo> the normal way
[07:13] <khamael> void^, didn`t work. I`m trying to figure out what SDL my nwn is using
[07:13] <Frogzoo> Eyel-e-ss: hit 'ctrl alt f1' to get to a terminal, enter that command, then 'ctrl alt f7' to switch back
[07:13] <Eyel-e-ss> ah...thank you Frogzoo :D
[07:13] <void^> khamael: how does it not work?
[07:13] <Frogzoo> mikelo: no luck? did they mount?
[07:14] <treeform> hi can some one help a ubuntu n00b?  How do i setup to run php?
[07:14] <bert> I guess nobody here can help me.. :(
[07:14] <Frogzoo> !php
[07:14] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:14] <mikelo> Frogzoo, it mounts but they look empty
[07:14] <lsuactiafner> if anyone here is very good with enforcing bandwidth restrictions, traffic shaping please look at http://rootshell.be/~edc/network.html and mail me an answer, ask in channel if i should clarify something or if someone knows of a channel i can ask
[07:14] <Frogzoo> mikelo: could the data have been deleted?
[07:14] <bert> Buh-Bye Then.
[07:14] <mikelo> Frogzoo, is there a way i can check a hda device's disk usage
[07:14] <bert> !bye
[07:14] <ubotu> vaarwel bert
[07:14] <NoUse> bert what kind of video card do you have?
[07:14] <khamael> void^,  "not a dynamic executable"
[07:14] <mikelo> Frogzoo, i didn't delete
[07:14] <treeform> Frogzoo, thank you.
[07:14] <bert> NoUse: Yay, An Answer :)
[07:15] <bert> NoUse: I have a Radeon 9800PRO, 128MB
[07:15] <NoUse> !tell bert about ati
[07:15] <void^> khamael: it doesn't use runtime linking, then.
[07:15] <bert> NoUse: I already updated all that, driver is up to date.
[07:15] <NoUse> bert run 'glxinfo | direct' from a termainl while in X
[07:15] <Logi> is there a page somewhere (I remember when people would ask for documents) describing how the stock [k] ubuntu kernels were produced?
[07:16] <FlannelKing> Logi: well, when a mommy kernel and a daddy kernel love each other very much... sorry.
[07:16] <Frogzoo> mikelo: the way to check disk usage is mount the hd, then 'df -h'
[07:16] <schirloc> got my firefox working , but still getting an error when running synaptic
[07:16] <Logi> FlannelKing: thank you for your input. Anyone else?
[07:16] <mikelo> Frogzoo, it says it's empty
[07:16] <bert> NoUse: it says, extension "xFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"
[07:16] <Frogzoo> mikelo: :(
[07:17] <schirloc> E: postfix: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[07:17] <schirloc> E: mailx: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[07:17] <schirloc> E: mutt: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[07:17] <schirloc> E: lsb-core: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[07:17] <schirloc> E: lsb-graphics: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[07:17] <schirloc> E: lsb-cxx: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[07:17] <laura> ola
[07:17] <schirloc> E: lsb: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[07:17] <Frogzoo> schirloc: please don't paste here
[07:17] <schirloc> oops
[07:17] <laura> algun espaol?
[07:17] <ompaul> !es
[07:17] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:17] <schirloc> where is that bin?
[07:17] <leku> hey
[07:17] <bert> !tell schirloc about pastebin
[07:17] <leku> i'm getting this error when trying to use enlightnemnt's e17genmenu util:
[07:17] <ompaul> paste.unbutu-nl.org
[07:17] <schirloc> thany you
[07:17] <ro> Hi, I've got this problem in X when moving about windows: http://www.homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/s0344600/
[07:17] <TokenBad> how can I mount my cd rom drive
[07:17] <ompaul> leku, put that error in a pastebin
[07:18] <leku> yep
[07:18] <laura> ola leku
[07:18] <leku> 1s
[07:18] <topyli> schirloc: close synaptic and try "sudo apt-get -f install" in a terminal
[07:18] <ompaul> laura, this is an english language channel
[07:18] <leku> http://rafb.net/paste/results/kE6XJc82.html
[07:18] <nickrud>  Logi /boot/config-$(uname -r) has the kernel config, linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.12 has the ubuntu specific stuff
[07:18] <nickrud> s/stuff/patches/
[07:18] <leku> sorry yyour other pastebot didn't work
[07:18] <leku> bad url
[07:18] <bert> NoUse: You still there?
[07:18] <bert> !tell bert about ati
[07:18] <BOBqwerty> i have a good one
[07:19] <ompaul> paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:19] <ompaul> minor typo
[07:19] <BOBqwerty> i got ait and it smalls funny
[07:19] <BOBqwerty> ati*
[07:19] <void^> khamael: what you can try is using something like 'strings somefile | grep "\.so"'
[07:19] <BOBqwerty> smells*
[07:19] <NoUse> bert look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and look for why the driver isn't working
[07:19] <schirloc> i think i tried that, but hold on
[07:19] <ompaul> !oftopic
[07:19] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ompaul
[07:19] <ompaul> !offtopic
[07:19] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[07:20] <NoUse> bert if you want to put it on a pastebin, I'll take a peek at it
[07:20] <BOBqwerty> jeez i would just like to say all ofu guys are complete nerds and should probably go out and lose a bit of weight and mayby if your lucky make some freinds
[07:20] <leku> any idea on my error? http://rafb.net/paste/results/kE6XJc82.html
[07:20] <ompaul> BOBqwerty, please, this is a support channel
[07:20] <bert> NoUse: Ok, Give me a second.
[07:20] <Eyel-e-ss> omg Frogzoo is a godsend :D
[07:21] <BOBqwerty> yeah i no  and i was trying to support your lives by helping by suggesting that mayby you should go out and lose some weight
[07:21] <NoUse> BOBqwerty don't you have anything better to do?
[07:21] <BOBqwerty> absoultly not
[07:22] <NoUse> BOBqwerty no friends to hang out with?
[07:22] <BOBqwerty> na im witht hem right now :)
[07:22] <BOBqwerty> them*
[07:22] <BOBqwerty> yay any1 else wanna ignore me while we r at it?
[07:23] <FlannelKing> ompaul: you forgot a 1 and a 2 ;)
[07:23] <FlannelKing> ompaul: 242 and 130
[07:23] <BOBqwerty> lets go play with coding! 0102hks<>
[07:24] <treeform> How would i run a php program stand alone? some thing like "php program.php" and it runs program.php?
[07:25] <bert> NoUse: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12609 -- Here you go.
[07:26] <kupesoft> treefrom: php --info
[07:26] <FlannelKing> treeform: you need to install php5-cli
[07:26] <ompaul> FlannelKing, please read your message :-)
[07:27] <treeform> kupesoft,  php --info
[07:27] <treeform>   - > bash: php: command not found
[07:27] <bert> NoUse: you get that link?
[07:27] <treeform> FlannelKing, thankx
[07:28] <dle> "Ubuntu 6.06 LTS" -- LTS = ?
[07:28] <NoUse> bert (II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration unsupported on Radeon 9500/9700 and newer.
[07:28] <bert> NoUse: O_O
[07:28] <Jey> lts:long time support or smt
[07:29] <FlannelKing> smt?
[07:29] <NoUse> bert you might need to look around the forums on how to install the latest drivers from ati.com
[07:29] <bert> NoUse: Eek.. Ok, Thanks for your help, Take care.
[07:29] <NoUse> bert sure
[07:29] <NoUse> bert good luck
[07:29] <abbot45> quick GAIM question.  i gave most of my list names alias names and now every time someone sends me a message it puts it up in 2 IM windows.
[07:30] <bert> NoUse: THanks.
[07:32] <schirloc> ok here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12611
[07:33] <schirloc> that is the result of apt-get -f install
[07:33] <PS> hi, can anyone tell me what the min system spec would be for a workable Xgl / Compix set up?
[07:33] <ompaul> PS better off asking that in #ubuntu+1 they deal with dapper
[07:33] <PS> ok, thx
[07:34] <pulox> .irc.cl
[07:34] <GTX> What outgoing ports do FTP use on a webserver? Incoming port 21 is allowed. Outgoing port 21 is allowed. But people cannot work FTP 100%. It's like it uses a different port to send information? any ideas?
[07:34] <ericmoritz\0> is there a way to keep my network mounts from appearing on the desktop, I have so many that it's cluttering up the desktop
[07:34] <gggf> http://www.bustyadventures.net/60008/a.m1/bavideopost/bavideopost.html  http://www.cathyscraving.net/mgp/cdb23mzo/vdp.html
[07:34] <phewl> what room is for games ?
[07:35] <phewl> channel *
[07:35] <me2win> there isn't one really, at least i dont think
[07:35] <me2win> its just in here or in #kubuntu any help you can find
[07:36] <Tomcat_> ericmoritz\0: Gimme a second, I think there's a way...
[07:36] <mrshoe> GTX: look into ftp passive vs. active
[07:36] <ericmoritz\0> Thanks Tomcat_
[07:37] <Tomcat_> ericmoritz\0: apps/nautilus/desktop in the Gnome Config Editor has some options... you might want to play around with those.
[07:37] <mrshoe> GTX: ftp is a strange protocol.. the server makes a connection to the client
[07:37] <ggilbert> it's a bit more complicated than just a couple fixed port numbers. There is a very large range of ports going back to the client that the server might use.
[07:37] <mrshoe> GTX, ggilbert: not if you use passive... passive is much simpler
[07:37] <ggilbert> yeah
[07:38] <Jowi> GTX: usually you open port 20 and 21 for ftp. one is for connection, the other for traffic. but it depends on server and such.
[07:38] <ericmoritz\0> Tomcat_: Thanks, I just found that
[07:38] <mrshoe> GTX: but some people don't want to force their clients to use passive
[07:38] <phewl> me2win, i wanted to ask for a games list that are native to linux and are fun, mostly because i couldn't get ut2003 or 2004 demos to install and only have doom3 tried of that tho heh, the problem was that the unreal's settings were not able to be displayed on my monitor
[07:38] <Caminomaster> Bye
[07:38] <Tomcat_> ericmoritz\0: Yeah, I tried it... works for me. :)
[07:38] <Tomcat_> ericmoritz\0: The volumes_visible switch there
[07:39] <me2win> phewl: Wesnoth is a great game
[07:39] <me2win> phewl: SuperTux also :P
[07:39] <Tomcat_> phewl: LiquidWars is great
[07:39] <Tomcat_> phewl: OpenTTD... I just love it.
[07:39] <Hhhhh> hello, I'm installing ubuntu (only CD that will install in my laptop). I want kubuntu, is "apt=get install kubuntu-desktop" all I have to do?
[07:39] <ericmoritz\0> Tomcat_: I unchecked show volumes, I assume that mounted usb drives won't show up but I'll deal with that :)
[07:39] <Jowi> phewl: rrotage is addictive
[07:39] <ericmoritz\0> me2win: wesnoth is awesome
[07:39] <Tomcat_> ericmoritz\0: Yeah it's a kind of "all or nothing" switch. :\
[07:40] <Hhhhh> do I have to go and start tweaking settings and stuff, or installing the meta-package will take care of that?
[07:40] <Tomcat_> ericmoritz\0: You could try creating symlinks on your desktop to the mount dirs ob USB drives... they should only appear when plugged in then. Maybe.
[07:40] <Jowi> phewl: sorry should be "rrootage"
[07:40] <phewl> are they freeware ?
[07:40] <me2win> yes
[07:40] <phewl> or do they have demos ?
[07:40] <Tomcat_> Hhhhh: Best way is to download the kubuntu install CD...
[07:40] <phewl> are they fps ? or mmo ? or rpg what
[07:40] <phewl> :p
[07:40] <jespuny> hola
[07:41] <green_earz> phewl:        armagetron    and       bzflag
[07:41] <Jowi> phewl: yes. full games. for free. quake2 works fine btw.
[07:41] <Tomcat_> phewl: LiquidWars is free, OpenTTD requires the original Transport Tycoon Deluxe files.
[07:41] <FlannelKing> Hhhhh: yeah, the meta package will do it
[07:41] <me2win> phewl: wesnoth is like an RTS
[07:41] <jespuny>                                       fuck            you !!!!
[07:41] <Tomcat_> phewl: LiquidWars is... a weird strategy game. OpenTTD is a tycoon game. ;)
[07:41] <gnomefreak> !ops
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[07:41] <jespuny> FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:42] <gnomefreak> ty
[07:42] <jerry_> there a way to set cd roms to allow unmounting when pressing eject button??
[07:42] <Seveas> Shadowcat, english please
[07:42] <Seveas> !se
[07:42] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[07:42] <Shadowcat> it's the other way around
[07:42] <jessid> hello
[07:42] <GTX> What outgoing ports do FTP use on a webserver? Incoming port 21 is allowed. Outgoing port 21 is allowed. But people cannot work FTP 100%. It's like it uses a different port to send information? any ideas?
[07:42] <abbot45> i have ubuntu installed on a 10gb drive.  i also have a 40gb drive that i want to put stuff on.  is there any way to do that?
[07:43] <jessid> some of you can tell me what are C heders and where can i find it?
[07:43] <treeform> FlannelKing, i tried that and it worked but it had problem with $this so i look on web and php5 does not like $this so i got php4 instead wich likes $this but i get error now: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 2949120 bytes)
[07:43] <treeform>   how to allocate more ram for php do you know?
[07:43] <Seveas> !tell jessid about compiling
[07:43] <_jason> jessid: install the build-essential package
[07:43] <ompaul> GTX usually a client side request can be from anywhere
[07:43] <me2win> abbot45: mount the 40gb hard drive. what filesystem is it?
[07:43] <mrshoe> GTX: ummmm
[07:43] <mrshoe> GTX: read my above posts to you
[07:43] <Jowi> GTX: 20 + 21 needed usually
[07:43] <jessid> _jason thanks man ill do it now!
[07:44] <abbot45> me2win, i don't know that its formated.  i think it has an old linux install on it.
[07:44] <yra> http://www.ilove-movies.com/main.html http://cool-porn.biz/welivetogether/galleries/dyke1010/vp.html
[07:44] <_jason> Seveas: ^
[07:45] <me2win> abbot45: grap GParted (or QTParted if you are on KDE) and format it
[07:45] <me2win> grab*
[07:45] <GTX> Jowi, That's allowed TCP/20 TCP/21... It logs in for the user but then when they request a listing or to send something it just cuts off.
[07:45] <mrshoe> GTX: i sent you about 5 messages when you asked the first time.. read those
[07:45] <GTX> I did
[07:46] <mrshoe> GTX: ok.. did you read up on ftp active vs passive?
[07:46] <GTX> Basiclay, The server is firewalling outgoing connections. What port ranges should be allowed?
[07:46] <GTX> Yes mrshoe but I have no idea to how set that or whatever
[07:46] <mrshoe> GTX: http://slacksite.com/other/ftp.html
[07:46] <mrshoe> GTX: it's a large range of ports
[07:47] <mrshoe> GTX: often it's simpler to use sftp, which is over ssh (always port 22)
[07:47] <jessid> I am receibing this error:What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[07:47] <jessid> kernel?
[07:47] <Darxus> the irc link on the ubuntu main page is pointing to the lists page
[07:47] <GTX> Try telling my clients that mrshoe haha :p
[07:47] <mrshoe> GTX: in that case read that article and open up all the ports
[07:47] <jessid> what can I do? I dont know what that is or where can i find those C headers
[07:47] <mrshoe> GTX: but it's far less secure and not encrypted
[07:47] <GTX> I am doing
[07:48] <abbot45> me2win, how should i make the new partitions?
[07:49] <me2win> abbot45: however you want
[07:49] <me2win> ext3 would be easiest
[07:49] <freezey> i have 2 drives that are NTFS on this system and i am trying to format them as EXT3 now when i goto do that it asks me for the access path and already it says /boot but there are more options.. which do i choose?
[07:49] <abbot45> me2win, ex2 file system?
[07:49] <me2win> ext3
[07:49] <me2win> if you can
[07:50] <MisterN> hi
[07:50] <abbot45> me2win, primary or extended partition?
[07:50] <me2win> primary
[07:51] <GTX> mrshoe, so basiclay if the FTP is set to passive only it would work with just ports 20/21 ?
[07:51] <io_> Anybody know how I can change a .daa file to an .iso or just get inside it somehow in linux/ubuntu?
[07:51] <ircleuser> hello, can anyone answer a ubuntu/PPC question?
[07:52] <yra> http://www.ilove-movies.com/main.html http://cool-porn.biz/welivetogether/galleries/dyke1010/vp.html
[07:52] <abbot45> me2win, ok.  so its called /dev/hde1
[07:52] <webwolf_27> ircleuser, ask the question, maybe someone can answer
[07:52] <me2win> abbot45: now you need to mount it
[07:53] <abbot45> how?
[07:53] <_jason> !ops
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[07:53] <lsuactiafner> freenode should get the geeks to flood the site like a slashdot effect
[07:53] <lsuactiafner> heh
[07:53] <ircleuser> does ubuntu support sleep on a PPC (laptop)
[07:53] <me2win> abbot45: sudo mount /dev/hde1 /media/hde1 (you can make a folder in /media with the name of the place you want to mount it on if you want)
[07:55] <abbot45> me2win, mount point /media/hde1 does not exist
[07:55] <me2win> abbot45: you have to create it then do   sudo mkdir /media/hde1
[07:55] <me2win> abbot45: then do sudo mount /dev/hde1 /media/hde1 again
[07:56] <abbot45> me2win, good deal.  so that should be visible there in my file system right?
[07:57] <me2win> yeah its mounted on /media/hde1 so you can put stuff on it now. If you want it to mount on startup you will have to mess with fstab. But yeah, its ready for storing.
[07:58] <abbot45> ok
[07:58] <abbot45> i'll probably want to do that
[07:59] <EvilDin> anyone know how to remove info about perl version from botton of the page which shows apache2
[07:59] <simplydazed> EvilDin: ServerSignature Off
[07:59] <simplydazed> EvilDin: ServerTokens Prod
[08:00] <soulfreshner> how do I remove a screensaver from Dapper?
[08:00] <EvilDin> do i add this to apache2.cpnf?
[08:00] <simplydazed> EvilDin: add those 2 lines to your apache.conf file
[08:00] <EvilDin> conf
[08:00] <soulfreshner> busyspheres crashes my X session
[08:00] <EvilDin> tnx
[08:01] <me2win> abbot45: want me to tell you how to add it to fstab?
[08:02] <abbot45> that would be cool
[08:02] <Overand> ugh
[08:02] <Overand> how can i delete all the contents of a certain directory that are in another one?
[08:02] <EvilDin> oo nice tnx :D
[08:02] <abbot45> isn't there a text file that i can just add that mount command to that will do it at boot?
[08:02] <Overand> i figure it's something using xargs
[08:02] <_jason> abbot45: /etc/fstab
[08:02] <abbot45> ok
[08:03] <simplydazed> Overand: loop it
[08:03] <ratschnowski> hello, is here someone familiar with cups? i want to connect a printer via a hub/switch, but do not really know how to do it
[08:03] <abbot45> i don't need to put sudo in front of it in that file do i?
[08:03] <Jhoa> http://g.pantywash.com/galleries/rackandblack/051024carmen/vp.html http://hornystarlet.com/yt/135/vdpst.htm
[08:03] <_jason> ubotu: tell abbot45 about mount
[08:03] <me2win> abbot45: no
[08:03] <ConfidentiaL> I have a problem with samba... I just installed it, and added shared folders, but when I try to connect to it over LAN, I get asked for username and password. Can any1 help me?
[08:03] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Another one.
[08:03] <abbot45> ok.  i'm sure i can handle that.  think i've done it before
[08:03] <Overand> simplydazed: say /home/username/dir3 has a bunch of files in it, and /home/username/ has them too, as well as others, but you want 'em gone
[08:04] <Overand> should you just be able to do xargs rm whatever whatever ls -1 /the/directory/with/the/proper/files ?
[08:04] <simplydazed> Overand: in both directories or just one?
[08:05] <Overand> simplydazed: basically, i accidentally copied a whole pile of crap that was in ~/whatever to /var/www
[08:05] <Overand> and i want to delete all of those files (60 or so) from /var/www without hosing the whole thing
[08:05] <Overand> heh
[08:06] <Jhoa> http://g.pantywash.com/galleries/rackandblack/051024carmen/vp.html http://hornystarlet.com/yt/135/vdpst.htm
[08:06] <Overand> (And yes, while i'm trying to figure it out, i'm doing a backup of the /var/www/
[08:06] <Overand> !ops Jhoa -- porn spam
[08:06] <ubotu> Overand: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:06] <Overand> er
[08:06] <Overand> bleh.
[08:06] <me2win> lol
[08:06] <Overand> -not #debian -
[08:06] <me2win> he left
[08:06] <Overand> heh
[08:06] <facugaich> hey, I basically blew "/etc/apache2/build/libtool" and now I try to run "configure" in apache 2.2 and I get an error. help?
[08:07] <FlannelKing> theyve been doing it to a few chnanels
[08:07] <freezey> how do i set permissions to a drive?
[08:07] <rsegurar> bhllhkgjgj
[08:07] <rsegurar> gkgj
[08:07] <rsegurar> gi++
[08:07] <rsegurar> ggg
[08:07] <ConfidentiaL> I have a problem with samba... I just installed it, and added shared folders, but when I try to connect to it over LAN, I get asked for username and password. Can any1 help me?
[08:08] <NoUse> !tell ConfidentiaL about samba
[08:08] <rsegurar> hola me llamo ruben y quiero una relacion sexual
[08:08] <NoUse> ls
[08:08] <nalioth> what is up today?
[08:08] <me2win> i dunno
[08:08] <me2win> its wierd though
[08:08] <FlannelKing> !es
[08:08] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:09] <me2win> FlannelKing: LOL!
[08:09] <FlannelKing> oh, wait
[08:09] <pax> nalioth: happy 4/20 many people are high
[08:09] <FlannelKing> damn
[08:09] <ZeZu> w00 i finally got a new linux box
[08:09] <me2win> FlannelKing: He said he wanted sexual relaxation, and you sent tim to ubuntu-es
[08:09] <ZeZu> no more ati bullshit
[08:09] <FlannelKing> yeah, I know.  I figured it out
[08:09] <Overand> me2win: hahaha
[08:09] <me2win> lol
[08:09] <ircleuser> Does Ubuntu Linux support "sleep"? I have an IBM ThinkPad that never sleeps, and I would like to install it on my Macintosh, but not if it can't sleep.
[08:09] <Overand> ircleuser: sounds like me
[08:10] <me2win> I sleep as little as possible
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> ircleuser: You have to change a setting somewhere...
[08:10] <rmoremar> HOLA SOY RAFA UN HOMBRE SOTERO QUIERO NOVIA GUAPA
[08:10] <me2win> rmoremar: jaja
[08:11] <ircleuser> sorry to be a n0ob, but what is difference between sleep and hybernate?
[08:11] <me2win> rmoremar: no estas cingando, vete de aqui.
[08:11] <facugaich> hey, I basically blew "/etc/apache2/build/libtool" and now I try to run "configure" in apache 2.2 and I get an error. help?
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> ircleuser: Suspending to RAM vs disk.
[08:12] <simplydazed> Overand: for X in `ls 1/`; do rm -rf 2/$X ; done
[08:12] <rmoremar> YO QUIERO SEXO Y TU
[08:12] <ircleuser> tonyyaruss: i see, thanks
[08:12] <Overand> simplydazed: that script looks al ittle hairy
[08:12] <me2win> facugaich: did you install it via repos?
[08:12] <zim_> Hi all another Q what is the easy way to get a netgear WG111T to work under 5.10
[08:12] <Overand> i'll try it
[08:12] <rmoremar> YES
[08:13] <rmoremar> VEI
[08:13] <facugaich> me2win, Apache 2.2? it's in the repos?
[08:13] <Juhaz> !ops
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[08:13] <Jey> what kernel is needed for an amd64x2 ?
[08:13] <Seveas> Juhaz, ?
[08:13] <simplydazed> Overand: it's takes the listing of one dir, deletes the same files in the other directory ...
[08:13] <me2win> facugaich: ah nevermind, you are right, its not
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> ircleuser: Found the file.  You need to edit /etc/defaults/acpi-support and uncomment the line for ACPI_SLEEP=true
[08:14] <Seveas> it seems to be tuesday loserday today...
[08:14] <me2win> facugaich: might wanna ask in #apache
[08:14] <Overand> simplydazed: it appears to not work
[08:14] <facugaich> me2win, already tried
[08:14] <Overand> maybe i'll make it ls -1
[08:14] <Amaranth> Seveas: but it's thursday :P
[08:14] <Fluxboxx> http://sapphicerotika.com/vids/lesb/dorikerstitraci/videopost.html http://sapphicerotika.com/vids/lesb/sandrabrooke/videopost.html
[08:14] <Seveas> Amaranth, see, even I am a loser 
[08:14] <simplydazed> Overand: works for me
[08:14] <Overand> simplydazed: not for me
[08:14] <facugaich> me2win, but they aren't as friendly as the ppl in here
[08:15] <me2win> facugaich: i believe that
[08:15] <Overand>  for X in `ls -1 /www/other.domain.com/upload`; do rm -f ./$X ; done
[08:16] <Overand> a lot of the filenames have spaces in them
[08:16] <EvilDin> anyone here maybe know why mount doesn't work same in debian as ubuntu, i add line to fstab: /var/skripte/phpmyadmin /var/www/phpmyadmin none bind 0 0
[08:16] <EvilDin> and it didn't maounted on reboot
[08:16] <EvilDin> any idea maybe
[08:17] <me2win> EvilDin: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html <-- take a look at that, might help a little
[08:18] <EvilDin> i maybe have idea, maybe should be to auto not to none
[08:18] <EvilDin> is thre possible to run fstab without restarting
[08:18] <me2win> EvilDin: yes, do   sudo mount -a
[08:19] <EvilDin> am nope
[08:19] <me2win> ?
[08:19] <EvilDin> i think that that script in fstab would be executed
[08:20] <me2win> ?
[08:21] <ayhan> hello
[08:21] <me2win> ayhan: hey
[08:21] <imbrandon> can someone look at my pastebin for my dhcpd error i cant get the dhcpd to start, here is the error and dhcp.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12613
[08:21] <Yellap> http://www.2000blowjobs.com/videogallery72/samanthablowsaluckyfan45.html http://www.buttbashers.net/tpu/tokyo01004.html
[08:21] <ayhan> what
[08:22] <hiku> Does anyone out there know about wireless networks using WPA?
[08:24] <imbrandon> can someone look at my pastebin for my dhcpd error i cant get the dhcpd to start, here is the error and dhcp.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12613
[08:27] <EvilDin> ok iz works now
[08:27] <EvilDin> i have one other question, how to look in ssh shell how much free space is left on disk
[08:27] <matthias> help me please, i'm looking for the wikipage, where repositories near my location are listed :(
[08:27] <obscurite> EvilDin: df -h
[08:28] <EvilDin> nice
[08:28] <EvilDin> :P
[08:28] <matth-w> How do I open a .rar?
[08:28] <doess> http://www.cc2cc.com/movc3/avb71/vp.htm http://www.firstbigswallow.com/gals/sonia1-399/indexVdPst.shtml
[08:28] <_jason> !rar
[08:28] <ubotu> I guess rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[08:28] <matth-w> Thanks man
[08:30] <dan_> wats the format windows uses? 4 letters starts with N?
[08:30] <MacSlow> ntfs
[08:30] <MacSlow> you mean maybe?
[08:30] <ZeZu> what is the nvidia driver package name?
[08:31] <dan_> And how do i mount ntfs partitions?
[08:31] <FlannelKing> !ntfs
[08:31] <imbrandon> nvidia-glx
[08:31] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:31] <abbot45> me2win, how do i unmount that drive that i just mounted.  i want to change the mount point name to something different.
[08:31] <me2win> abbot45: sudo umount /media/hde1
[08:31] <imbrandon> umount /blah
[08:31] <newbie33> !browser
[08:31] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, newbie33
[08:31] <dan_> Thats what i was looking for - thanks
[08:31] <FlannelKing> newbie33: what you looking for?
[08:32] <newbie33> my firefox not run
[08:32] <newbie33> dont know what to do
[08:32] <micahf> hey
[08:32] <_jason> newbie33: what version are you using?
[08:32] <micahf> anyone using a Xpress 200M?
[08:32] <ZeZu> after i install nvidia-glx do i reconfigure x ?
[08:32] <micahf> zezu I think you do
[08:32] <ZeZu> dpkg --reconfgure Xorg or smth ?
[08:32] <newbie33> version of what?
[08:32] <imbrandon> it ill do it for you
[08:32] <_jason> newbie33: firefox
[08:32] <FlannelKing> !nvida
[08:32] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, FlannelKing
[08:32] <micahf> zezu, you have to add some lines for compositing and stuff
[08:32] <newbie33> 1.5 I guess
[08:32] <endgamer> I've got what is technically an Enlightenment question, I suppose, if anyone can help - is it possible to do window tiling in Gnome?
[08:33] <_jason> newbie33: are you using the default one in breezy?
[08:33] <newbie33> yes
[08:33] <ZeZu> micahf, there is no auto config for the driver ?
[08:33] <_jason> newbie33: that's 1.08
[08:33] <newbie33> it not runs after dist-upgrade
[08:33] <micahf> ZeZu, I don't know, I don't use autoconfig
[08:33] <_jason> newbie33: you dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[08:33] <micahf> ZeZu, those haven't ever been much help to me!
[08:33] <ZeZu> yea i dont know the parameters it would take
[08:33] <newbie33> yes
[08:33] <matthias> does someone also have problems with the security repositorie?
[08:33] <ZeZu> hehe i feel that
[08:33] <newbie33> now 12-6
[08:33] <MacSlow> hm... the german repository-mirror seems dead from my "point of view".
[08:33] <micahf> ZeZu, you have to look it up on google!
[08:33] <_jason> newbie33: what does 'firefox' output when you type it in a terminal
[08:33] <matthias> MacSlow, same here
[08:34] <imbrandon> ZeZu: if you install it via apt-get it will configure it for you ( nvidia-glx) and backup your old config
[08:34] <newbie33> root@tyla:/home/rkz # firefox
[08:34] <newbie33> plugin_get_value 1
[08:34] <newbie33> plugin_get_value 2
[08:34] <dan_> !mp3
[08:34] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:34] <newbie33> and that is all
[08:34] <ZeZu> imbrandon, i installed it via synaptic
[08:34] <ZeZu> that uses apt-get doesnt it ?
[08:34] <imbrandon> same thing
[08:34] <imbrandon> yup
[08:34] <MacSlow> matth-w, Can I temporarily change it to e.g. some dutch- or un-one?
[08:34] <_jason> newbie33: ps aux | grep firefox (put it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ if it is long)
[08:34] <ZeZu> maybe i just need a reboot then or restart x
[08:34] <imbrandon> now just restart your gdm/kdm
[08:34] <ZeZu> ko
[08:34] <ZeZu> brb
[08:34] <copyy> http://www.hardcorepetites.net/bwb/168f/index02.html http://www.lesbiansplayroom.com/mgal06/086/legendary_lesbos_licking/videopost.html
[08:35] <endgamer> Sorry folks, should have said hi! how are you all doing? Just wondering if anyone knows - is it possible to do window tiling in Gnome/Enlightenment?
[08:35] <pcsl> hi
[08:35] <newbie33> _jason, rkz       8325  0.1  4.6  88208 11496 ?        Sl   21:26   0:00 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin -a firefox
[08:35] <newbie33> what it means?
[08:35] <jy1700> i've got a dial up issue with dapper 6.06. gnome-ppp works fine in breezy but no go in dapper
[08:35] <pcsl> how can I identify as root?
[08:35] <abbot45> me2win, can the mount point be different than the name it displays under the icon.  for instance /home is displayed as Home Folder.
[08:35] <_jason> newbie33: it means you have a firefox running already, one secx
[08:36] <newbie33> but I cant see it at all
[08:36] <newbie33> :/
[08:36] <MacSlow> matthias, is it enough to just replace de. with e.g. en. ?
[08:36] <matthias> dunno
[08:36] <matthias> try it :X
[08:36] <me2win> abbot45: you can name the mountpoint whatever you want. just sudo mkdir /media/customnamehere then mount it /media/customnamehere
[08:37] <matthias> for me its just the security repository
[08:37] <endgamer> No worries folks, you're obviously busy.
[08:37] <matthias> the rest works fine
[08:37] <FlannelKing> jy1700: #ubuntu+1
[08:38] <jy1700> flannelking; ?
[08:38] <newbie33> please tell me other browser names
[08:38] <FlannelKing> jy1700: that's the place to go for dapper stuffs
[08:38] <newbie33> I cant browse anymore
[08:38] <_jason> newbie33: killall firefox, then ps aux | grep firefox again
[08:38] <jy1700> oh soory I need to switch channels ok
[08:39] <jy1700> thanks
[08:39] <dan_> !mp3
[08:39] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:39] <newbie33> killall firefox
[08:39] <newbie33> firefox: no process killed
[08:39] <newbie33> wrong command?
[08:40] <LoRez> killall firefox-bin
[08:40] <_jason> newbie33: that's becaue I'm not thinking straight: yeah what LoRez just said
[08:40] <newbie33> :)
[08:40] <newbie33>  ps aux | grep firefox
[08:40] <newbie33> root      9438  0.0  0.2   2928   500 pts/0    R+   21:40   0:00 grep firefox
[08:40] <abbot45> me2win, i guess what i'm saying is.  i want to keep the mount name simple without spaces and such for command purposes, but for it to display something different under the desktop icon.  either that or get rid of the desktop icon.
[08:41] <newbie33> its after kil
[08:41] <slippy> When I attempt to install my wireless driver I am not that /etc/modprobe.conf is not found. How can I fix this?
[08:41] <_jason> newbie33: now try running firefox again
[08:41] <dan_> !wma
[08:41] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:41] <me2win> abbot45: im sure there is, but im not sure off hand how to do it
[08:41] <newbie33> it started and gone
[08:41] <newbie33> :o
[08:42] <FlannelKing> abbot45: I suppose you could mount, and then just symlink to the mount point for the desktop
[08:42] <newbie33> I think I have to reinstall it somehow
[08:42] <VSFH> I got a question for anyone who knows a bit about wvdial / gnomeppp
[08:42] <brian_> hey, I have a question, I am running ubuntu 5.10, and I am wanting to swap out my sound card. I am wondering can I just swap it out or do I have to change some settings first?
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> how to get X to use TTF fonts or font smoothing? I already enabled the LCD font setting, but fonts -- especially in FF look very jagged.
[08:42] <ggilbert> brian_: just swap away
[08:42] <VSFH> brian_: just swap it out
[08:42] <ggilbert> brian_: It should handle it all on its own
[08:42] <abbot45> FlannelKing, yeah, but then how to i get rid of the icon that it puts there by default?
[08:43] <brian_> cool, thanks
[08:44] <VSFH> question on wvdial / gnomeppp -- running wvdial from a terminal will get me online (most the time), running gnomeppp (with the same settings, analog modem, stupid mode on, check carrier off) will not get me online
[08:44] <_jason> newbie33: what did it say in the terminal?
[08:44] <_jason> newbie33: wait, you aren't root are you??
[08:44] <VSFH> I had to chmod +s wvdial so that it would run as root, otherwise it can't open the modem. any ideas ?
[08:44] <newbie33> Im root
[08:44] <_jason> newbie33: why?
[08:44] <obscurite> anyone know how to do the equivalent of chkconfig --list in debian/ubuntu/sysv?
[08:44] <HymnToLife> VSFH> then use wvdial, what's wrong with it ?
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> VSFH: Same happened for me.  I just used wvdial.
[08:45] <newbie33> want to do many things
[08:45] <_jason> newbie33: don't run firefox as root
[08:45] <newbie33> ok
[08:45] <newbie33> omg
[08:45] <newbie33> I cant find simple terminal
[08:45] <VSFH> HymnToLife, I just don't like having the term there running wvdial. I get 2 other problems as well - it doesn't 'hangup' correctly if it doesn't connect on the 1st dial and just tries over and over and over again
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> newbie33: Or an IRC client for that matter.  In fact, I would avoid doing anything online as root besides fetching updates.
[08:45] <newbie33> after dist upgrading it has gone :/
[08:46] <_jason> newbie33: it's moved to accessories
[08:46] <VSFH> newbie33: go to applications and then to "Add Applications"
[08:46] <Frogzoo> newbie33: apps -> accessories -> terminal
[08:46] <newbie33> oje
[08:46] <HymnToLife> VSFH> I usualy kill it with Ctrl+C ant run it again when it happens
[08:46] <newbie33> found
[08:46] <Ademan> this isnt really ubuntu related, but does anyone know how to merge faces in wings3d?
[08:46] <VSFH> or not
[08:46] <newbie33> rkz@tyla:~$ firefox
[08:46] <newbie33> rkz@tyla:~$
[08:46] <HymnToLife> and I guess you can run it with & to have it run in the background
[08:46] <scifi> hey guys, when i mount my ntfs partition so i can access the files after a reboot it is no longer mounted, is it possible to save it mounted?
[08:46] <newbie33> gives no action
[08:46] <VSFH> HymnToLife: that's what I do too
[08:47] <cdubya> obscurite, maybe here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20583
[08:47] <VSFH> scifi: save it in /etc/fstab
[08:47] <_jason> newbie33: are there any instances of firefox running now? (use ps again)
[08:47] <Frogzoo> !ntfs
[08:47] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:47] <cdubya> scifi, yeah, what VSFH said. :)
[08:47] <newbie33> no
[08:47] <HymnToLife> !rll scifi about ntfs
[08:47] <VSFH> scifi: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_backup
[08:47] <ubotu> HymnToLife: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:47] <newbie33> only xchat
[08:47] <HymnToLife> !tell scifi about ntfs
[08:47] <obscurite> cdubya - looking, thanks
[08:47] <VSFH> d'oh
[08:47] <XamDM> scifi, http://ubuntuguide.org/
[08:47] <cdubya> obscurite, np, hope it helps
[08:48] <obscurite> cdubya - update-rc.d doesn't seem to have a list option
[08:48] <VSFH> Hymn: how bout this last one - I get PPPD death error 15 a lot, is there a way I can up the # of failed requests  ?
[08:48] <scifi> thx guys
[08:48] <VSFH> it happens especially if I try to webbrowse while downloading updates
[08:48] <XamDM> scifi, ntfs is read-only
[08:48] <HymnToLife> yeah same here, never found a workaround...
[08:49] <HymnToLife> hopefully I'll get DSL soon
[08:49] <cdubya> obscurite, a list option.....you're going to have to help me out there.....
[08:49] <newbie33> apt-get remove firefox
[08:49] <VSFH> sounds like we're about in the same boat
[08:49] <cdubya> I'm not real familiar with chkconfig
[08:49] <newbie33> maby it helps
[08:49] <scifi> XamDM: yes i know m8, only want to ACCESS not append files on it
[08:49] <newbie33> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:49] <obscurite> cdubya - I want to see a list of services and what run levels they run at
[08:49] <cdubya> ah
[08:50] <cdubya> hang on
[08:50] <p47> Hello ! Ubuntu dapper can not open gdesklets | do you know why ?
[08:50] <bolrod>  /etc/rc1.d/ .. etc
[08:50] <VSFH> here's a bizarre thing -- Ubuntu is the only thing I've seen apart from a partitioner program I saw (didn't work) that can change and resize partitions (like ntfs) and keep data intact... how is it you can do this, but there's no rw support for ntfs ?
[08:50] <bolrod> 1 for being runlevel 1
[08:51] <cdubya> obscurite, yeah, they're all under /etc in the particular run level it looks like
[08:51] <obscurite> cdubya - I know that, just wanted a nice concise list. :) thanks for trying
[08:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> VSFH: Dunno how they do it, but ntfs is writable now, thanks to the Captive project. (and ReactOS and WINE) http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> VSFH: because editing the partition table, is not the same as writing files.
[08:51] <ZeZu> hmm nv-glx isn't working here or it dodn't configure xorg.conf correctly
[08:51] <bolrod> and in /etc/inittab  is also some info I thought
[08:51] <cdubya> obscurite.....have you checked out bum/
[08:52] <bolrod> though not the services I think
[08:52] <scifi> HymnTolife: can i guess ur problem was usb modem not recognized?
[08:52] <bc_> hi _jason
[08:52] <obscurite> bolrod - nothing about services, just run levels themselves
[08:52] <obscurite> cdubya - no, what is bum/?
[08:52] <bolrod> and some getty stuff
[08:52] <VSFH> fyrestrtr: yeah, obviously so, but it used to be if you wanted to create a new partition and had no space for it, you had to remove the old one, and lose all the data
[08:52] <cdubya> obscurite, sudo apt-get install bum
[08:52] <bc_> how to mount vfat system
[08:53] <cdubya> obscurite, I suspect it may what you're looking for
[08:53] <Frogzoo> how do I get dpkg-buildpackage to build an unstripped binary? (tried setting CFLAGS=-g, but the binary got stripped anyhow)
[08:53] <HymnToLife> scifi> not at all, my modem works pretty fine, thanks ;)
[08:53] <ZeZu> !nvidia
[08:53] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:53] <dan_> where do i got codec for a .avi from?
[08:53] <cdubya> obscurite, it's for boot up manager
[08:53] <Frogzoo> !restricted
[08:53] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:53] <obscurite> cdubya - i was checking out sysv-rc-conf, but it didn't have a way of printing out a list, and the ncurses seems wonky over screen sessions
[08:53] <Ademan> why the heck is my first connect to a server (through http) so damn slow, and then all subsequent requests are fairly fast?
[08:53] <zF> FlannelKing, did you read any of what he said? -/-
[08:54] <Frogzoo> Ademan: like 30 seconds slow?
[08:54] <Ademan> yeah
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> obscurite: if ncurses is "wonky" as you so colorfully put it, check your lang settings :)
[08:54] <bc_> pls help me
[08:54] <cdubya> obscurite, bum gives me a list of services on it's own tab and runlevels, listed nicely......:)
[08:54] <Frogzoo> Ademan: you using a search list? sounds like a dns problem
[08:54] <Ademan> far slower than my windows box (the one i'm on right now)
[08:54] <VSFH> I still haven't had any luck with that; I installed w32codecs gstreamer and all the subsequent bits and still can't play an mp3 or video file
[08:54] <obscurite> cdubya - will check it out thanks.
[08:54] <bc_> how to mount vfat system that can be rw
[08:54] <Ademan> Frogzoo: yeah, it does sound like that, but i thought dns was handled by your ISP
[08:54] <cdubya> np
[08:54] <obscurite> fyrestrtr - it displays, but alignment gets weird
[08:55] <tony14764> Hello
[08:55] <Frogzoo> Ademan: first thing to try, put a '.' at the end of the dns name, think you'll find there's no delay?
[08:55] <tony14764> who can help me with DVDs?
[08:55] <Frogzoo> !dvd
[08:55] <Ademan> what do you mean at the end of the dns name?
[08:55] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[08:55] <cdubya> bc_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?action=show&redirect=AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:56] <Ademan> ubotu: he should also restart after installing that package, it didnt work initially for me, i had to restart
[08:56] <dan_> where do i get codec for a .avi from?
[08:56] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Ademan
[08:56] <Wolfan> can anyone give me some help with running Ubuntu live?
[08:56] <p47> Help me I have problems with gdesklets
[08:56] <Frogzoo> Ademan: eg 'www.google.com.'
[08:56] <Ademan> ok
[08:56] <bc_> thanks cdubya
[08:56] <LarstiQ> dan_: .avi is only a container, you still need to know the used codec
[08:56] <webwolf_27> dan_, mplayer musste's haben
[08:56] <workk> http://www.shopperspornmart.com/sista/Videopost[nr] blackness45.html  http://www.pornsolid.com/62rhig/VP[sc] 086409oiu.html
[08:56] <bc_> cdubya, can help me one more
[08:57] <craig442> can anyone hel me install a driver called usbvision? it's for a usb pctv device to run with tvtime.
[08:57] <cdubya> bc_, I can try
[08:57] <dan_> I got sound but no picture
[08:57] <scifi> wow that mount script is impressive, can i just use the disks manager to unmount the drives i dont want mounted?
[08:57] <bc_> i want to update my kde 3.4 to 3.5
[08:57] <dan_> i need the codecs but i dunno one for linux
[08:57] <_jason> !kde3.5
[08:57] <ubotu> To upgrade to to the latest KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[08:57] <Wolfan> everything seems to go okay, I start up the system and it loads then goes blank and sticks there
[08:57] <dan_> will divz work?
[08:57] <_jason> ubotu: tell dan_ about multimedia
[08:57] <cdubya> bc_, what _jason said. heh
[08:58] <bc_> sorry
[08:58] <LiteWait> Is is true... I can just update to UB 6.06 from 5 using update-manager -d ?  It does seem to find the 6.06 packages.
[08:58] <cdubya> np
[08:58] <FlannelKing> zF: any of what who said?
[08:58] <Ademan> Frogzoo: it always appends a / after my URL, so it doesnt like that when i add the dot... however     when i do... say   gamedev.net/.     its the same speed
[08:58] <VSFH> wooohoo, netsplit
[08:58] <Frogzoo> Ademan: check you can ping all dns servers listed in /etc/resolv.conf
[08:59] <bc_> update to dapper  ?
[08:59] <Ademan> alright, and then remove any that i can't ping?
[08:59] <Hhhhh> hello, when will 6.06 be officially released?
[08:59] <Hhhhh> final version
[08:59] <VSFH> here's one more question, what might the advantages be to using k7 instead of i386?
[09:00] <cdubya> bc_, not sure about that one........I don't use KDE. :P
[09:00] <Frogzoo> VSFH: it's marginally faster - but you're actually best off running the 686 kernel
[09:00] <cdubya> bc_, it looked like you just needed to add those to your sources.list file though at first glance
[09:01] <vars> ahhh
[09:01] <LiteWait> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperdrake seems to imply an in-place uprade.
[09:01] <vars>  i can't get my server install of linux to get hte xserver to work
[09:01] <VSFH> Frogzoo: I'm running a 1.25ghz Athlon, you're sure I should run off the 686 and not 386 or k7 ?
[09:01] <bc_> ok. i'll try
[09:01] <newbie33> uh firefox repaired, btw _jason  thanks for your wasted time :)
[09:01] <bc_> thanks for the help guys
[09:01] <_jason> newbie33: cool :)
[09:02] <Frogzoo> VSFH: very sure, the k7 is 64 bit I believe?
[09:02] <cdubya> bc_, np
[09:02] <VSFH> Frogzoo: I think that's k7-smp
[09:03] <Ademan> Frogzoo: it specified my router's IP as a name server... is that... correct?
[09:03] <VSFH> Frogzoo: The only reason I'm bothering at all is during my install it said I could run k7 and it was for Athlon/Duron processors, and if it runs this well now, it'd be awesome if it ran even better
[09:03] <Frogzoo> VSFH: nope, try 'sudo apt-get install linux-image-686'
[09:03] <Frogzoo> Ademan: well that depends, can your router forward dns queries? is that where the delay is coming from?
[09:04] <Ademan> it probably can, and i'm pretty sure my router has its own idea of where the DNS server is anyways
[09:04] <Frogzoo> VSFH: running 64bit isn't nearly as well supported as 32bit, but 686 is almost as fast as k7, hence 686 is the best option
[09:05] <VSFH> Frog: athlon chips are 64 bit processors   ?
[09:06] <scifi> is it possible to rename the shortcuts to my ntfs drives to something more user-friendly like Windows Drives 1 & 2 ?
[09:07] <psychiccyberfrea> I have a prob
[09:07] <psychiccyberfrea> when I try to install the base system, it says that it was unable to install the selected kernal
[09:07] <psychiccyberfrea> what do I do?
[09:07] <Frogzoo> VSFH: yes, but they run 32 bit code just fine, it's just a 32 bit kernel won't use the 64 bit opcodes
[09:08] <cdubya> scifi, yeah you should be able to.
[09:09] <ubuntu_> hi to everyone
[09:09] <ubuntu_> can soneone help me???
[09:10] <psychiccyberfrea> shoot
[09:10] <Dutchy> dont ask to ask
[09:10] <cdubya> ubuntu_, go ahead
[09:10] <Frogzoo> VSFH: correction: the athlon xp's are 32bit, the a64's are 64bit
[09:10] <psychiccyberfrea> go ubuntu_\
[09:10] <scifi> cdubya: doesnt give me option to rename if i right click on the drives
[09:11] <ubuntu_> i have a sony
[09:11] <Frogzoo> ubuntu_: cool
[09:11] <psychiccyberfrea> try running the file browser as root then rightclick and hit properties
[09:11] <ubuntu_> my resolution is 1240x768
[09:11] <ubuntu_> but ubuntu dont detect it
[09:11] <Frogzoo> !xorg
[09:12] <ubotu> xorg is, like, To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[09:12] <psychiccyberfrea> lucky, you have a good monitor...
[09:12] <cdubya> scifi, I think it depends on what you named the directory when you created it for the mount
[09:12] <Frogzoo> ubuntu_: see ubotu's post above, and this
[09:12] <Frogzoo> !fixres
[09:12] <ubotu> fixres is probably Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:12] <vars> !nvidia
[09:12] <psychiccyberfrea> try going in a commandline and type baseconf
[09:12] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[09:12] <psychiccyberfrea> I think
[09:12] <engla> is it possible to add a shortcut for switching vts from X? I mean like alt-arrow in a vt, but somehow set up so that ctrl-alt-arrow switches back from X to the vt to the left/right
[09:12] <psychiccyberfrea> it will configure everything. just skip to the xwindow part
[09:12] <LiteWait> How do I get the lastest version of the "Update Manager" ?
[09:13] <Frogzoo> ubuntu_: clear as mud?
[09:13] <linav> hi all
[09:13] <ubuntu_> yup
[09:13] <ubuntu_> another question
[09:13] <linav> i got this problem with ubuntu, an anyone plz clear this for  me
[09:13] <psychiccyberfrea> sudo apt-get update
[09:13] <psychiccyberfrea> I think
[09:13] <Frogzoo> ubuntu_: you'll probly need to set vertrefresh & horizsync as mentioned in fixres
[09:13] <scifi> cdubya: they are mounted in /media/
[09:14] <ubuntu_> have someone ever know something about "project looking glass"?
[09:14] <cdubya> scifi, yeah
[09:14] <cdubya> scifi, hang on
[09:14] <linav> whenever i try to dowload updates or any additional packages, exactly at 3 package my system hangs
[09:14] <linav> i need to restart the machine in order to work again
[09:14] <psychiccyberfrea> Ok now the install is asking me what kernel to install whado I do
[09:15] <linav> i have installed the default ubuntu 5.10 ver
[09:15] <linav> did i do something wrong
[09:15] <linav> seeking ur help
[09:15] <sorush20> can ubuntu do parallet boot scripts?
[09:15] <romulo> yo =)
[09:15] <linav> how can i over come this downloads problem
[09:16] <craig442> hi, is there anyone here who might be able to help me install the usbvision driver?
[09:17] <mrshoe> linav: have you changed /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:17] <linav> no
[09:17] <linav> i just installed ubuntu and clicked the updates icon
[09:17] <_jason> linav: does 'sudo apt-get update' complete without errors?
[09:17] <psychiccyberfrea> linav: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:17] <cdubya> scifi, have you worked with symlinks at all before?
[09:17] <psychiccyberfrea> then uncomment all the stuff
[09:17] <linav> let me c
[09:18] <psychiccyberfrea> well of corse it will, he's using the CD repository...
[09:18] <scifi> cdubya: not really m8
[09:18] <cdubya> scifi, you can create symlinks for each if you want.
[09:19] <aurore_> salu
[09:19] <cdubya> scifi, ln -s /media/windows whatever_you_want_to_name_the_drive
[09:19] <cdubya> scifi, then mv /media/windows/whatever_you_named_the_drive ~/Desktop
[09:19] <psychiccyberfrea> Anyone know how to get a fat32 part to mount as /home?
[09:20] <NoUse> psychiccyberfrea I don't think you can do that
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> psychiccyberfrea: why do you want to do that?
[09:20] <micahf> hey, any ideas why I am getting a virtual resolution change/
[09:20] <micahf> ?
[09:20] <psychiccyberfrea> dual booting windows
[09:20] <micahf> instead of actual
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> psychiccyberfrea: you don't need to do that to be able to dual boot
[09:20] <psychiccyberfrea> it's my friend's computer not mine
[09:20] <cdubya> psychiccyberfrea, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?action=show&redirect=AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:20] <linav> 99% [Connecting to nz.archive.ubuntu.com (202.7.6.9)] 
[09:20] <hid3> Evening everyone. Is there any package which would make my keyboard leds blink depending on the CPU usage?
[09:20] <linav> it stopped at this when i try to update in terminal
[09:20] <cdubya> you don't need to do that....
[09:20] <scifi> cdubya: thanks, but will those links replce the "hda1", "hdb1" shortcuts that have already been created on the desktop, because i dont want those
[09:21] <digits> Is there a way to change the name of the programs in the menu? By default it's the name and a short description, i'd lik to have just the name... (i know that Firefox is a Web Browser ;P) is it possible to do all at once by some setting, or do I have to change them all by hand?
[09:21] <NoUse> psychiccyberfrea /home needs permission aware filesystems (specifically unix permissions)
[09:21] <cdubya> scifi, kewl. hope that works for ya
[09:21] <psychiccyberfrea> yeah but my friend 99.9% of the time is trying to access his files via windows on linux and he has no dice
[09:21] <_jason> linav: yes, nz seems to be down.  Is that newzealand?
[09:21] <linav> yeh
[09:21] <linav> so do i need to try again
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> psychiccyberfrea: he is trying to access his linux files from Windows?
[09:21] <PwcrLinux> Hello, upgraded the updates, and I got a warning line about directory not empty in line of dpkg.
[09:21] <psychiccyberfrea> yes
[09:21] <linav> later may be after some hours
[09:21] <scifi> cdubya:  ?
[09:21] <_jason> linav: try using a different mirror, just make it archive.ubuntu instead of nz.archive.ubuntu.  YOu know how to do that?
[09:21] <psychiccyberfrea> its an ex3 filesys
[09:22] <linav> sorry no :-(
[09:22] <_jason> linav: or use something close like australia's
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> psychiccyberfrea: just install the ext3 driver for windows, but really what you should do is create a fat32 partition that is shared.
[09:22] <cdubya> scifi, did you get it to work?
[09:22] <linav> ok i will give it a go
[09:22] <linav> thanks a ton for your help
[09:22] <_jason> linav: type this: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[09:22] <_jason> linav: that will let you edit and then just run the 'sudo apt-get update' command again
[09:22] <psychiccyberfrea> ok where do I get the driver? sourceforge?
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> psychiccyberfrea: otherwise your friend has a great chance of messing up permissions on this linux partition while he is goofing off in Windows.
[09:22] <scifi> cdubya:  havent tried it yet, wanted to know if they will replace the default shortcuts already on my desktop befeo i run the commands?
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> psychiccyberfrea: don't know, but sf would be a good bet.
[09:22] <digits> psychiccyberfrea: tell him to install colinux (www.colinux.org), with that he can install a minimal linux dist and access the partition directly
[09:23] <scifi> before*
[09:23] <cdubya> scifi, Oh, sorry.....:-O
[09:23] <psychiccyberfrea> k thanx
[09:23] <cdubya> scifi, if you create the symlinks, then mv them to the desktop, as long as the symlinks aren't the same name, I don't think you'll have any issue
[09:23] <tony14764> !dvd
[09:23] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[09:23] <psychiccyberfrea> even though I hate windows with all my heart he likes it anyway... lol
[09:23] <PwcrLinux> brb
[09:23] <freezey> whats the name of the software that comes with ubuntu that you can get applications online
[09:24] <freezey> appget?
[09:24] <cdubya> scifi, so if you create the new ones and they work the way you want, then just dump the old ones and you're all good....
[09:24] <freezey> app get? something or other
[09:24] <cdubya> freezey, apt-get, synaptic
[09:25] <scifi> cdubya:  it says : "ln: when making multiple links, last argument must be a directory
[09:25] <scifi> " when i run the command
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> freezey: synaptic
[09:25] <freezey> cdubya: and to start it up whats the command
[09:25] <cdubya> scifi, what did you type?
[09:25] <freezey> synaptic
[09:25] <freezey> ok gotit
[09:25] <cdubya> freezey, synaptic
[09:25] <cdubya> heh
[09:25] <freezey> lol
[09:25] <freezey> thanks
[09:25] <cdubya> np
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> freezey: system -> administration -> synaptic package manager
[09:26] <scifi> cdubya: i typed "ln -s /media/windows Windows Boot Drive"
[09:26] <psychiccyberfrea> or if you have katapult ALT+SPACE synaptic
[09:26] <psychiccyberfrea> ENTER
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> cdubya: ln -s /media/windows "Windows Boot Drive"
[09:27] <cdubya> fyrestrtr, I didn't use spaces in mine, so it worked....heh
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> cdubya: I try to avoid spaces in directory names -- I recommend you do ln -s /media/windows windows-boot-drive
[09:27] <scifi> cdubya: btw the drives are mounted directly into /media/ not /media/windows/
[09:27] <cdubya> scifi, so how many mounts are you trying to create symlinks for?
[09:28] <scifi> cdubya: just 2, the windows boot drive and a large storage drive
[09:28] <cdubya> scifi, k.
[09:28] <paxmaster> I have just download some rar files but how could I extract all of the rar to create one file
[09:28] <freezey> which one do you guys recomment samba or samba-common?
[09:28] <freezey> isn;t there a samba 2?
[09:28] <PwcrLinux> Seem work good
[09:28] <cdubya> scifi, and you know the mount points specifically for each?
[09:29] <scifi> cdubya: yes they are both in /media/
[09:29] <cdubya> scifi, ln -s /media/mtpnt1 WindowsBootDrive or ln -s /media/mtpnt1 windows-boot-drive ......whatever your flavor
[09:30] <CptMiller> hi @ all
[09:31] <CptMiller> I've got the following problem: I installed a clean version of the beta version and I can't make an apt-get update...
[09:31] <scifi> cdubya: k that worked, now do the move to desktop command? but how does it know which drive i want named bootdrive and which i want to call something else?
[09:31] <itrebal> is it *possible* using apt-get to go from debian sarge to ubuntu
[09:31] <cdubya> scifi, mv /media/symlink_name ~/Desktop
[09:31] <CptMiller> it seems, like the de.archive.ubuntu.com seems to be down, but if I ping the IP of the host, ill get responses
[09:32] <ubuntulnx> anyone know if it is possible to change your window controls to the left side?
[09:32] <CptMiller> any ideas?
[09:32] <itrebal> i've heard of something similar happening
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> CptMiller: maybe the web server is down.
[09:32] <ubuntulnx> anyone have success with mythtv in ubuntu?
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> CptMiller: have you tried another mirror (and btw, Dapper is in #ubuntu+1)
[09:32] <CptMiller> oh sorry, I will quickly change channels
[09:32] <fyrestrtr> ubuntulnx: what do you mean window controls?
[09:33] <ubuntulnx> fyrestrtr: you know the exit, maximize, and minimize buttons
[09:33] <tonyyarusso> I need help resizing a partition backwards in GParted.  As in, there's free space preceding it on the disk.  How can I use that?
[09:33] <bc_> cdubya, i'm confuse.....
[09:34] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, heh, you're having some fun, huh?
[09:34] <cdubya> bc_, about?
[09:34] <bc_> there are so many package
[09:34] <cdubya> bc_, yeah
[09:34] <cdubya> bc_, are you still trying to upgrade KDE?
[09:34] <ubuntulnx> fyrestrtr: you know what i mean?
[09:34] <bc_> which one should i install
[09:34] <scifi> cdubya: it says:" mv: cannot stat `/media/WindowsBootDrive': No such file or directory"
[09:34] <bc_> yes
[09:34] <cdubya> scifi, ls -l /media
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> cdubya: Yep.
[09:35] <cdubya> scifi, do you see the symlink you created?
[09:35] <cdubya> tonyyarusso, ;)
[09:35] <bc_> how to upgrade it
[09:36] <itrebal> if i were to change my sources from debian sarge to ubuntu, and did an apt-get dist upgrade would that work :/ ?
[09:36] <bc_> ubotu
[09:36] <cdubya> bc_, wish I could help you out more there.....I just don't use KDE anymore. You added the mirrors to your sources.list, right?
[09:36] <cdubya> !kde3.5
[09:36] <ubotu> To upgrade to to the latest KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[09:36] <scifi> cdubya: no but for some reason i see a link created in my home directory
[09:36] <rdass> http://hornystarlet.com/bb/124/vdpst.htm  http://www.freebigmovies.com/
[09:36] <cdubya> scifi, is it the one you just created?
[09:37] <lakiboobs> what's the equivalent command in linux for tracert in windows?
[09:37] <meshe> lakiboobs: traceroute
[09:37] <bc_> ooo, thanks ubotu, cdubya
[09:37] <scifi> cdubya: it must be its called WindowsBootDrive
[09:37] <cdubya> uh, traceroute
[09:37] <lakiboobs> thanks
[09:37] <cdubya> scifi, then mv /home/WindowsBootDrive ~/Desktop .....then try it :)
[09:37] <Sianis_> hi all
[09:37] <cdubya> bc_, is that what you were looking for?
[09:37] <gesker> I'm trying 6.06 beta. The system grinds to a halt after a few hours. Could someone offer a tip on where I could look to determine the cause?
[09:38] <itrebal> scifi: and if that doesn't work, try mv ~/ /dev/null
[09:38] <Sianis_> i have a little problem
[09:38] <Sianis_> with the Network Manager
[09:38] <lakiboobs> ..
[09:38] <Sianis_> why i cannot join to open wifi networks?
[09:38] <Sianis_> the WPA - PSK / WEP works, but it cannot connent to open networks
[09:38] <Sianis_> why?
[09:38] <Bobrownik> huston - we have a problem
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> gesker: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[09:39] <soulfreshner> is there a way for me to get dvd images of the standard repositories of ubuntu?
[09:39] <scifi> cdubya: its moved the link to dekstop, but says link it broken if i double-click it
[09:39] <gesker> fyrestrtr: Thanks.. Will do
[09:39] <soulfreshner> my internet line is very slow and installing anything over a few MB takes ages
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> scifi: right click on it, and see where it is pointing to
[09:40] <cdubya> scifi, yeah, what fyrestrtr said
[09:40] <Blissex> soulfreshner: not of the standard repositories... Of the periodic releases, yes.
[09:40] <itrebal> whats the latest ubunut?
[09:40] <lina> I tried to listen to radio using rhythmbox but failed, any tips?
[09:40] <cdubya> scifi, the link target
[09:40] <erUSUL> itrebal: 5.10 breezy
[09:40] <Frogzoo> itrebal: breezy 5.10 is latest stable release
[09:40] <itrebal> thanks
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> lina: it failed how?
[09:41] <scifi> cdubya/fyrestrtr: link target:/media/mtpnt1, but how does it know which drive is mntpnt1? that is probly causing the problem ?
[09:41] <soulfreshner> itrebal - but it's worth trying out dapper
[09:41] <Blissex> soulfreshner: but perhaps some of the mirrors do a ''burn to cdrom'' service. There were a few big sites that did that. But I guess now that many people have broadband they might have given up.
[09:41] <cdubya> scifi, yeah, that's it
[09:41] <CNAP> anybody ever upgrade their kernel, and lost their NIC?
[09:41] <lina> it's not playing
[09:41] <itrebal> soulfreshner: is dapper the next vesrion?
[09:41] <cdubya> scifi, open terminal and cd Desktop
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> scifi: the 'how it knows' is that its getting the information from your fstab file
[09:41] <soulfreshner> itrebal: yep - but it's beta
[09:41] <bc_> ubotu, can help me with kbfx
[09:41] <ubotu> bc_: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:41] <itrebal> soulfreshner: i'll give it a shot
[09:42] <fyrestrtr> lina: what kind of radio station?
[09:42] <BWD> i just installed ubuntu, and firefox is insanely slow compared to fedora (what i was using before). does anyone have a suggestion on what i can disable to get firefox up to a usable speed?
[09:42] <soulfreshner> itrebal: I haven't found anything strange yet, though
[09:42] <lina> live365.com
[09:42] <cdubya> scifi, when I typed that mtpnt1 before, I was wanting you to substitute the mount point for the two drives you said you had
[09:42] <cdubya> scifi, mtpnt1 for the first, and so on.....
[09:42] <cdubya> scifi, that make sense?
[09:42] <soulfreshner> itrebal: and XGL sets up easily in Dapper so you have 3D acceleration and effects on your desktop
[09:42] <Frogzoo> bc_: ubotu tries to be helpful, but he's a little slow on the uptake
[09:42] <itrebal> soulfreshner: i'm going to be trying something i've never done before, which is apt-get dist-upgrade, from debian sarge
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> lina: live365.com -- what kind of stream do they provide? real player? shoutcast? or something else.
[09:43] <scifi> cdubya: o riiiight, so mtpnt1 shud be hda1 ?
[09:43] <cdubya> scifi, yeah
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> itrebal: we'll see you back in here.
[09:43] <itrebal> fyrestrtr: will it fail? miserablyu?
[09:43] <soulfreshner> itrebal: that might be...interesting :)
[09:43] <meshe> BWD: the version of firefox that comes with breezy is slow, you need to update it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> itrebal: survey says .... yes :P
[09:43] <itrebal> haha
[09:43] <scifi> cdubya: lool ok erm, i need to do symlink commadn again then ?
[09:43] <erUSUL> itrebal: not sure if it's a good idea. ubuntu (breezy) and debian are quiet different
[09:43] <itrebal> i'll make sure to backup well :D
[09:43] <Frogzoo> itrebal: it's worth mentioning, in case you didn't know, that if you miss a step you'll break your system - no sure what it is from debian - but it's hoary -> breezy -> dapper
[09:43] <BWD> meshe: oh, thank you
[09:44] <itrebal> hell, screw that, i'll just reinstall to debian
[09:44] <blindx> what is the linux alternative to batch scripting?
[09:44] <itrebal> ubunuu*
[09:44] <itrebal> gah, i can't spell today :)
[09:44] <fyrestrtr> BWD: or you can try the new opera 9 beta :) tis very fast
[09:44] <scifi> cdubya: .....or not? i have cd to Desktop
[09:44] <meshe> blindx: bash scripting
[09:44] <itrebal> type, rather
[09:44] <cdubya> scifi, cd Desktop first
[09:44] <blindx> any links on it?
[09:44] <scifi> cdubya:  done
[09:44] <Frogzoo> blindx: batch scripting is perfectly linux? what's the problem?
[09:44] <cdubya> scifi, then ln -s /media/hda1 WindowsBootDrive
[09:44] <lina> sry fyrestrtr, I'm a noob, dunno how to answer ur Q, all I know is I could listen to it w/ windows media player on windows, but now trying to use rhythmbox on ubuntu, do u think it's possible?
[09:45] <itrebal> hrm... how much should i give the debian install?
[09:45] <itrebal> damnit, ubuntu
[09:45] <meshe> blindx: i'd just google "bash tutorial" or "bash howto"
[09:45] <scifi> cdubya:  k just let me check thats the right drive number for windows boot drive
[09:45] <cdubya> scifi, np
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> lina: oh, its windows media stream? You probably need to go through the RestrictedFormats wiki entry
[09:45] <Frogzoo> itrebal: imo, 20gigs is nice
[09:45] <blindx> I just don't know how to do it? like with dos/windows you could just put the lines in a txt file and name it .bat
[09:45] <fyrestrtr> !tell lina about RestrictedFormats
[09:45] <newbie33> how to install .ttf fonts, that would run on xchat?
[09:45] <itrebal> Frogzoo: good, thats what i've got setup now... i've got a windows, linux, and a fat32 partition to fit all on the drive
[09:46] <meshe> blindx: in bash the files are .sh typically, but linux doesn't really require file extenstions
[09:46] <Frogzoo> blindx: just put '#!/usr/bin/bash'  on the first line, and chmod +x the file
[09:46] <blindx> I've noticed that.
[09:46] <blindx> oh, alright. thanks
[09:46] <soulfreshner> blindx: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[09:46] <scifi> cdubya:  it says "ln: `WindowsBootDrive': File exists" lool
[09:46] <lina> ubotu gave up, lol
[09:46] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lina
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> lina: it did?
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> !RestrictedFormats
[09:46] <cdubya> scifi, rm WindowsBootDrive
[09:46] <lina> yup
[09:46] <ubotu> rumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> ubotu: botsnack
[09:47] <scifi> cdubya:  hehe thought so :)
[09:47] <ubotu> :)
[09:47] <Ferro> helpm e
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> lina: there ya go :)
[09:47] <carthik> newbie33, put the font file in ~/.fonts (create the dir if you dont have it already) and then do an $fc-cache -v
[09:47] <cdubya> scifi, then hit the up arrow on your keyboard twice till you get the symlink command back and run it again....:)
[09:47] <Ferro> i am new user in ubuntu 5.10
[09:47] <lina> ??? confused
[09:47] <carthik> newbie33, i dont know if you have to do a $sudo fc-cache -v or just the command without sudo, try both :)
[09:47] <scifi> cdubya:  yep done  and ne wlink works a treat :), ty v.much
[09:47] <Ferro> i am unable to use internet in ubuntu5,10
[09:47] <cdubya> scifi, np, glad it worked. :)
[09:48] <newbie33> carthik,  I have font on my desktop
[09:48] <Ferro> help me
[09:48] <Floge> hi
[09:48] <Ferro> any one
[09:48] <AskHL> Ferro, what kind of 'unable' ? Be more specific. Write a long comment explaining your pains
[09:48] <fyrestrtr> Ferro: how do you connect to the internet?
[09:48] <cdubya> scifi, should be able to do that for your other drive using the same method, just with a diff symlink name
[09:48] <intelikey> someone that knows dpkg please tell me what  rc means in "rc  bash           3.0-13         The GNU Bourne Again SHell"
[09:48] <Floge> how can I fix this problem: the audio comes later than the video
[09:48] <scifi> cdubya:  yup working on it now
[09:48] <carthik> newbie33, right, so open a terminal, make a new directory in your /home/your-username/ folder, called .fonts using the command $mkdir .fonts
[09:48] <Ferro> i hav ADSL EXternal modem and D-Link lan card
[09:48] <lina> fyrestrtr, pls notice I'm a complete nooooooob, need step to step guide if u don't mind
[09:48] <bobonthenet> I'm new to linux and I'd like to compile and install a program I just downloaded does anyone have the time and patience to walk me through that?
[09:48] <itrebal> racotta cheese, intelikey
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> lina: go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats -- and then follow the steps to enable windows format files, then try the radio station again
[09:49] <Ferro> in window i created PPPoE dialer
[09:49] <Ferro> to connect
[09:49] <carthik> newbie33, then copy the .ttf file to the .fonts folder (hint - doing a ctrl+H when viewing nautilus shows you hidden files like .fonts)
[09:49] <fyrestrtr> lina: that wiki is a very step-by-step guide :) if you have any questions, just ask back in here.
[09:49] <Frogzoo> Ferro: sudo pppoeconf
[09:49] <cdubya> scifi, kewl.
[09:49] <lina> oic.. lemme try... thx fyrestrtr
[09:49] <itrebal> back later!
[09:49] <cdubya> later for a bit all.
[09:49] <Ferro> where i write this
[09:49] <Ferro> in terminal window
[09:50] <bc_> ubotu, is there any swf plugin for firefox
[09:50] <ubotu> bc_: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:50] <carthik> Ferro, open a terminal and run the command suggested. THen follow through with the questions
[09:50] <carthik> ubotu swf
[09:50] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, carthik
[09:50] <Floge> how can I fix this problem: audio comes later than the video
[09:50] <andr3www> hello, I was wondering if anyone can help me with my DSL please
[09:50] <Ferro> do i need to install driver for my lan card
[09:50] <carthik> Floge, in what application?
[09:50] <carthik> Ferro, in all probability it is already installed
[09:51] <Floge> totem
[09:51] <erUSUL> Ferro: which card?
[09:51] <newbie33> carthik,  ok I pasted that font what to do now?
[09:51] <Ferro> how to access floppy drive
[09:51] <scifi> cdubya:  ok link for 2nd drive also works. however the folder has a padlock on it and different permissions to boot drive link, not that its a real problem tho
[09:51] <Floge> carthik Totem movie player
[09:51] <Ferro> i cant access it
[09:51] <bobonthenet> I'm new to linux and I'd like to compile and install a program I just downloaded does anyone have the time and patience to walk me through that?
[09:51] <intelikey> Ferro  mount it.
[09:51] <carthik> Floge, hmm, try using a different audio/video output driver, like xv instead of x11 or esd insted of alsa in the config options. Not sure myself, since I dont use totem
[09:51] <andr3www> Is anyone here on Bell Sympatico??
[09:51] <_jason> bobonthenet: what program?
[09:51] <bobonthenet> f4l
[09:52] <Floge> what is a good movie player?
[09:52] <erUSUL> bobonthenet: if you are new better try to install it from the repos first
[09:52] <erUSUL> !tell bobonthenet about repos
[09:52] <Ferro> how will u tell me the procees i am new in linux today i installed
[09:52] <carthik> Ferro, does the floppy drive show up? try popping a good floppy in, and there should be an icon on your desktop
[09:52] <erUSUL> !tell bobonthenet about synaptic
[09:52] <_jason> Floge: mplayer, xine, vlc
[09:52] <intelikey> Ferro  sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy         if /mnt/floppy doesn't exist make it or choose another dir.
[09:52] <_jason> ubuntu: tell bobonthenet about compile
[09:52] <Xardas_afk> h
[09:52] <Xardas_afk> hi
[09:52] <shriki> hi, i'm new!
[09:52] <Ferro> ya icon is there
[09:52] <Xardas_afk> does here anyone use lilypond?
[09:53] <Ferro> when i open my computer
[09:53] <carthik> Floge, I personally prefer mplayer, with the gstreamer plugins, and the w32codecs - so I can use it for all formats.
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> shriki: welcome
[09:53] <bobonthenet> thanks that should help
[09:53] <carthik> Ferro, click on the icon, with a floppy in the drive. that is all you'll need to do
[09:53] <Floge> can I download w32codecs and gstreamer plugins from synaptic?
[09:53] <erUSUL> bobonthenet: no preblem
[09:53] <_jason> ubotu: tell bobonthenet about compile
[09:54] <Ferro> i did
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> Floge: yes
[09:54] <Ferro> error came
[09:54] <shriki> I was wondering if anyone knew a good programs that downloads music like SoulSeek for Ubuntu?
[09:54] <carthik> Floge, you will have to add the PLF repository to the sources.list file first
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> !tell Floge about RestrictedFormats
[09:54] <Ferro> unable to access
[09:54] <Frogzoo> bobonthenet: usually don't bother compiling - just install using synaptic from the provided repos
[09:54] <intelikey> Ferro also if udev hasnt made the device node  then use  /dev/.static/fd0
[09:54] <carthik> !tell me about plf
[09:54] <scifi> i cant remove old desktop shortcut links to my ntfs mounted drives
[09:54] <erUSUL> shriki: nicotine is a ss client for linux
[09:54] <Ferro> do i need to use commands only
[09:54] <pez> Hi there. I have just made the conspicious move from Windows to Ubuntu. I know understand the hype about this distribution!
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> pez: glad you like it :)
[09:55] <shriki> thank you! i will definately give it a try! :)
[09:55] <erUSUL> shriki: no problem
[09:55] <pez> I did originally start with Mepis but their community was not helpful. No on posted to my thread on their forum :-(
[09:55] <carthik> Ferro, is there an error message as to why you cant access it?
[09:55] <lina> fyrestrtr, went there but couldn't find how to enable windows format files, couldn't even find the word windows, oh... I'm so noobish
[09:55] <Ferro> now what configuration do i need to access internet
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> lina: alright hold on.
[09:56] <Frogzoo> Ferro: sudo pppoeconf
[09:56] <lina> k, tia
[09:56] <sebastianmares> Hey guys, I have some trouble with the new Dapper - X server won't start.
[09:56] <Ferro> ok
[09:56] <PwcrLinux> hell, pls check on my paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12620
[09:56] <carthik> Ferro, go to system - administration -> netowrking and set up your adsl connection info there
[09:56] <PwcrLinux> err hello
[09:56] <Ferro> let me note it down
[09:56] <sebastianmares> I tried with both a fresh installation and with the live CD.
[09:56] <_jason> !dapper
[09:56] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[09:56] <pez> I have a question... it took a long time to configure Ubunty with my hardware... why does Linux have such hardware problem with IBM-PC architecture?
[09:56] <Frogzoo> sebastianmares: #ubuntu+1 for dapper issues
[09:56] <scifi> ne ideas guys?
[09:56] <sebastianmares> OK, thanks.
[09:57] <carthik> pez, might be just some odd hardware you have in your pc...
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> lina: okay I will help you out, but my deal is you must be looking at the wiki page :)
[09:57] <newbie33> !locale
[09:57] <ubotu> newbie33: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:57] <lina> k, pls guide
[09:57] <Frogzoo> pez: depends on the hardware, if it's recent, shouldn't be a problem
[09:57] <mheslep> hi all - net install question here:
[09:57] <erUSUL> pez: no idea my ibm-pc has no problems... maybe linux hates you 8^P
[09:57] <Ferro> i tried in networking
[09:57] <carthik> newbie33, you can do a /msg ubotu locale to spare us the text (and get a room where you can ask ubotu stuff) :)
[09:58] <mheslep> How do I cet the effect of the preseed syntax 'd-i     mirror/http/hostname    string 192.168.1.22' on the boot prompt command line instead?
[09:58] <Riko> hi guys, i just installed wu-ftpd on my comp and when i try to connect on port 21 i get connection refused... is PS AX | grep ftpd and  can't find the ftp server running?
[09:58] <Ferro> what to do in dialup
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> lina: the first thing you have to do, is follow the screenshots and instructions on this page > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:58] <lina> w8
[09:58] <pez> cathik: from my research at uni for my dissertation, 94% of windows users that tested out Linux aborted the transistion because of hardware recognition problems
[09:58] <intelikey> so anyone know what "ii rc uu" and the like, mean in a dpkg list ?
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> Riko: have you started it?
[09:58] <Floge> hmm
[09:58] <Floge> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:58] <Floge> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:58] <Riko> fyrestrtr, yea! I have it as running in my services page
[09:58] <Floge> what do i have to do
[09:58] <erUSUL> Floge: do not paste please use pastebin
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> Floge: close Synaptic
[09:59] <Ferro> i am using ethernet
[09:59] <Floge> sry
[09:59] <Floge> k
[09:59] <scifi> i cant remove the old desktop shortcut links to my ntfs mounted drives
[09:59] <carthik> Riko, editthe configureation file for the server,a nd start it /etc/init.d/whatever start
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> Riko: did you edit the configuration file?
[09:59] <PwcrLinux> close the program floge before doing a sudo'ing
[09:59] <Riko> fyrestrtr, /etc/wu-ftpd?
[09:59] <Frogzoo> pez: which distro, & which release? or it was just whatever they tried?
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> Riko: don't know what it is on Ubuntu
[09:59] <Riko> i havent edited it... i'll do that now
[09:59] <pez> I think if it can be intuitive for the windows users for their linux distribution then more Window users will jump ship
[09:59] <mheslep> So, any net install experts here?
[09:59] <erUSUL> pez: this is support channel go to #ubuntu-offtopic for linux bashing and general chat ;)
[09:59] <fyrestrtr> Riko: does it show up when you type lsof -i ?
[10:00] <Ferro> can u give me some link
[10:00] <Ferro> from where i can see how to do all these steps
[10:00] <gilianima> what is the basic package to install to compile a tarball ?
[10:00] <pez> I didn't ask for a specific release.. but most of the Window users experimented - mainly- Fedora Core
[10:00] <Frogzoo> gilianima: build-essential
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> gilianima: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:00] <pez> and Suse was high up there
[10:00] <carthik> pez, little we can do about hardware that doesn't have drivers. For windows the manufacturers write their own, for linux, we have to write the drivers ourselves :)
[10:00] <intelikey> ferro !wifi ?
[10:00] <Riko> fyrestrtr, no it doesnt
[10:00] <Ferro> no
[10:00] <fyrestrtr> Riko: hrmm, then its not running
[10:00] <Ferro> ADSL modem
[10:00] <Ferro> using lancard
[10:01] <testing> hey, im having problems with my dcc send in irssi.. not sure what the problem is, can someone help me troubleshoot it? i can send fine through konversation and another irc client but with irssi, all my transfers are stalled when they are sent..
[10:01] <Ferro> ethernet
[10:01] <scifi> i cant remove the old desktop shortcut links to my ntfs mounted drives, pls help
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> scifi: are the drives still mounted?
[10:01] <Riko> fyrestrtr, yea that's what's weird... i try to start it manually by running /usr/sbin/wu-ftpd and then do a ps ax | grep ftpd and can't find it running either
[10:01] <Frogzoo> oops was testing meant to be kicked?
[10:02] <fyrestrtr> Riko: wait a second, I have a better suggestion for you :)
[10:02] <carthik> Riko, maybe the executable's name is different from wu-ftpd
[10:02] <kbrooks> !ff1.5
[10:02] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:02] <scifi> fyrestrtr: yes
[10:02] <pez> carthik: It probably doesn't help when hardware vendors don't support their products with native linux drivers! Is there any big hardware names that strongly support Linux?
[10:02] <PwcrLinux> hello, pls check on my paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12620
[10:02] <Ferro> what i do
[10:02] <koobi_> mind if i ask why testing was kicked?
[10:02] <intelikey> scifi yes i hate to see drive icons.....   (one thing i have against default gnome)
[10:03] <Riko> carthik, if wu-ftpd is in /etc/init.d/ wouldnt that be its name?
[10:03] <meshe> pez: depends on the type of hardware, nvidia is pretty good for video cards
[10:03] <carthik> pez, please pop over to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:03] <lina> fyrestrtr, the synaptic package manager stated I had 1 broken package which I dunno what, and I still don't see any lights here... pls tell me the next step
[10:03] <ploom> weird - what was wrong with the testing guy??
[10:03] <carthik> Riko, not neccesarily.
[10:03] <sebastianmares> Not much action in #ubuntu+1...
[10:03] <ploom> I mean what did he do wrong
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> Riko: install pureftp and then pureadmin (a gui admin utility) should help you out.
[10:03] <Frogzoo> ploom: I'm thinking maybe the dcc send ?
[10:03] <koobi_> testing is a friend of mine, i actually asked him to come over here
[10:03] <carthik> Riko, open the file wu-ftpd in a text editor and find out what the executable is
[10:03] <Riko> fyrestrtr,  i'll try thanks
[10:03] <pez> sure. sorry. is there a URL with the list of IRC rooms so I dont get asked to leave again LOL
[10:03] <erUSUL> ploom: d****cc i think
[10:03] <_jason> !ops
[10:03] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> lina: okay hold on a sec -- do you have Synaptic open?
[10:04] <lina> yup, it's open
[10:04] <PwcrLinux> whoa, text triggered to be kicked?
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> pez: type /list
[10:04] <ploom> is dee sii sii something as bad as fu uu k??
[10:04] <scifi> fyrestrtr: ne ideas?
[10:04] <pez> thanks :-)
[10:04] <erUSUL> ploom: just make sure you do not mention it like Frogzoo
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> scifi: missed your question.
[10:04] <_jason> Seveas: testing did it above and frogzoo
[10:04] <scifi> i cant remove the old desktop shortcut links to my ntfs mounted drives, pls help
[10:04] <ploom> damn - didnt know its abusive lang :-D
[10:04] <scifi> fyrestrtr: yes they r still mounted
[10:04] <carthik> pez, the message welcoming you to this room has a reference to #ubuntu-offtopic in it :)
[10:04] <Frogzoo> ok, that was funny
[10:05] <fyrestrtr> lina: okay click on Custom on the bottom, then in the list, click Broken
[10:05] <Seveas> _jason, thanks
[10:05] <fyrestrtr> scifi: that's probably why the icons are still there.
[10:05] <intelikey> guys there is a bug in some routers that picks up the string dcc.send  so to keep that from disconnecting people in here there is a ban on using that string in this channel.
[10:05] <koobi_> thanks Seveas, but mind if i ask why testing was banned? accident?
[10:05] <cgib> hey all, i have a problem with gFTP...it's giving me a 'Could not read from socket: Connection reset by peer' error about 80% of the time...any ideas?
[10:05] <lina> oh... it said skype... thought it worked
[10:05] <schlurchz> Hi all. <http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperbeta> doesn't load the images here. Does it work for you or is the server overloaded?
[10:06] <Seveas> koobi_, there was a lot of exploiting of known bugs in firewalls and anti virus software recently
[10:06] <Frogzoo> intelikey: yes, but the string is more than just 'dccxsend'
[10:06] <scifi> fyrestrtr: i have nicely renamed symlinks for the drives, but dont want the default direct links too, is there not a way of turning them off when drives r mounted?
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> cgib: enable passive ftp, that should fix it.
[10:06] <pez> is this chatroom ok to talk about discussing spefic problems relating to Ubuntu? As I did come on here to discuss that my USB devices are not being picked up in my Ubuntu 5.10 distro
[10:06] <intelikey> Frogzoo what ?
[10:06] <cgib> fyrestrtr: i tried that, and it says 'No route to host'
[10:06] <koobi_> ah
[10:06] <scifi> pez: thats xactly what this rooms for :)
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> scifi: yes there is, but I don't know why you went though all that trouble with symlinks -- when there is an easy way to "permanently" change the names. Wish I was here from the beginning.
[10:06] <carthik> pez, of course, you can just ask. if it is inappropriate someone will tell you , always politely.
[10:06] <marcin`> hi guys I need really fast help
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> cgib: are you having internet problems?
[10:07] <schlurchz> Plz can someone test the URL?
[10:07] <marcin`> I installed dapper beta on some laptop (noname crap)
[10:07] <carthik> marcin`, you can speed up the rate by actually asking the wuestion faster...
[10:07] <koobi_> testing was just asking why irssi DCC's don't work. he's aware that it doesn't work on freenode but even on other servers it doesnt but DCC works via konversation - confusing
[10:07] <scifi> fyrestrtr: omg lol!! (cries)
[10:07] <marcin`> and everything works great
[10:07] <carthik> and on one line.
[10:07] <_jason> marcin`: #ubuntu+1 for dapper please
[10:07] <Frogzoo> intelikey: I thought they were longer strings, but seems you get kicked for 'dccxsend'  where x=' '
[10:07] <marcin`> except keyboard - this keyboard has FN key
[10:07] <Seveas> @unload exploitban
[10:07] <cgib> fyrestrtr: nah, i can get on the web and IRC (obviously)..and i'm able to telnet and SSH out
[10:07] <Seveas> @load changuard
[10:07] <scifi> fyrestrtr: well i just want to turn the default symbols off and leave my new symlinks
[10:08] <marcin`> and it behaves like this FN key is down
[10:08] <Seveas> Frogzoo, the part after "dcc send" was too variable, even for a regex
[10:08] <m_tadeu> hi...i'm unable to run wvdial on a pcmcia modem...can anyone help, plz?
[10:08] <pez> excellent! ;-) is there anyone kind enough to help me with my USB problem? It probably is something simple but is transparent to me as Im a noob
[10:08] <marcin`> and I have to press this button to write some characters
[10:08] <Frogzoo> Seveas: cool, just was a little surprising to trip over it
[10:08] <mheslep> scifi: have any experience with net installs and/or preseed?
[10:08] <Riko> uhm, this is weird
[10:08] <Seveas> won't happen again, it's been disabled
[10:08] <erUSUL> pez: just ask
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> scifi: you are going to cry when you read how easy it is > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RenameUSBDrive
[10:08] <intelikey> Frogzoo yes      don't you remember when someone would pop in and type "DCC.SEND" and a quarter of the people in the channel would exit......
[10:08] <koobi_> Seveas: was the "@load..." directed at me?
[10:08] <Frogzoo> intelikey: I remember
[10:08] <Seveas> koobi_, no, at Ubugtu 
[10:08] <lina> fyrestrtr, it was skype... the broken one.. what should I do?
[10:08] <koobi_> ah ok
[10:09] <marcin`> because for example I got "numeric" keyboard on this laptop - and this numeric keyboard should be active when FN is down
[10:09] <Riko> fyrestrtr, ok so i removed wu-ftpd, i installed pureftp and pureadmin, when i run pureadmin it tells me it's unable to retrieve info about server activities
[10:09] <fyrestrtr> lina: hrmm, you can remove it -- how did you install it?
[10:09] <lina> it came w/ easyubuntu
[10:09] <fyrestrtr> Riko: probably because (again) server is not running.
[10:09] <sebastianmares> Any idea if some of the Ubuntu devs are going to make some drivers for Lexmark all-in-one devices based on the Linux driver SDK?
[10:09] <m_tadeu> anyone?...i'm unable to run wvdial on a pcmcia modem...can anyone help, plz?
[10:09] <Riko> fyrestrtr, i started the server
[10:09] <carthik> marcin`, please type your question on one line. Everyone has trouble following your problem. Make it short, sweet and precise
[10:09] <marcin`> but unfortunately now when I try to write 'U' then I get '4'
[10:09] <Taser> I've got a Dell Inspiron 4000 laptop running Ubuntu, but the TrackPoint device (nub in the middle of the keyboard) seems to be defective. In Windows, I can disable it, but I can't seem to do so in Ubuntu. Does anyone have any pointers?
[10:09] <scifi> fyrestrtr: but they arent usb drives, they are internal drives, wud that matter? :P
[10:09] <fyrestrtr> Riko: on what port is it running, and is it setup to accept connections from localhost? How are you connecting to it?
[10:09] <marcin`> carthik: well it's hard to write this in one line
[10:10] <sebastianmares> Unfortunately, Lexmark doesn't have plans to make Linux drivers for certain models themselves (X5150 for example),
[10:10] <Riko> fyrestrtr,  but it's still not showing up in the lsof -i
[10:10] <simonpca> plop
[10:10] <lina> if I remove it, can I re-install it coz I need it...
[10:10] <scifi> mheslep: sorry m8 no, im a noobie :P
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> scifi: not a bit.
[10:10] <pez> OK. My current problem is this: I have an ipod and a 512MB USB disk.. when i connect them into the usb devices, Ubuntu does not recognive them (i assume this as they dont appear on the Gnome desktop). I know that there isn't a problem with the USB devices as they worked fine with Mepis before I made the right move to Ubuntu
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> Riko: hrmm -- okay, how did you start it up?
[10:10] <pax> what CLI mail client is installed default?
[10:10] <dan_> How do i install Skype?
[10:10] <Bobrownik> huston - we have a problem
[10:10] <_jason> pax: mutt I think
[10:10] <pax> !skype
[10:10] <Riko> fyrestrtr, /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd start
[10:10] <ubotu> well, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> pez: when you plug them in, check in Computer -- they don't always show up on the desktop.
[10:11] <carthik> marcin`, well, it's really not, if you think a little before you type. "marcin`'s keyboard's function key seems to be stuck, so that his keyboard behaves strangely. How can he fix this?"
[10:11] <intelikey> Frogzoo don't happen to know what or where to read about the meaning of the first two letter code that  dpkg -l  puts out   do you ?      like  ii is installed something   but what  rc  uu  and so forth ?
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> Riko: any errors? what does the log say? what does it say in /var/log/messages or /var/log/pureftp.log (or whatever it is called)
[10:11] <carthik> marcin`, well, is the fn key really stuck?
[10:11] <pax> Jason, not even.
[10:11] <Bobrownik> can somone help me with resolution problems?
[10:11] <marcin`> carthik: anyway - I got keyboard that has FN key and some special keys that should be accessible when FN key is down (numerical keyboard, brightness/contrast etc.) unfortunately this keyboard works like this FN is always down - and I have to press FN to write letters
[10:11] <Frogzoo> intelikey: man dpkg I'd guess
[10:11] <_jason> pax: what kind of install did you do?
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> lina: sorry, yes you can re-install it later.
[10:11] <intelikey> Frogzoo it's not there.
[10:12] <intelikey> Frogzoo i looked there frist.
[10:12] <pax> jason, upgrade.
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> lina: when you want to say something to me directly, type my name first so my client highlights it, otherwise I will miss it in the scroll.
[10:12] <carthik> marcin`, find the keycode to that FN key, and disable it, perhaps?
[10:12] <hellz_hunter> ok i have porn in wmv9 formats, im on amd64, will i be able to view them?
[10:12] <_jason> pax: is this a default install? server? what version?
[10:12] <marcin`> carthik: fast question - how?
[10:12] <scifi> fyrestrtr:  i will use ntfsprogs for future use. but is there a way of turning the default ones off and leaving the symlinks there which i just spent some time creating!! (reminds himself to decapitate cdubya when he returns :) )
[10:12] <hellz_hunter> so far, im able to play just about any other format, except wmv9
[10:12] <intelikey> i looked in man aptitude   man apt-cache  and  man dpkg   nothing there...
[10:13] <Seveas> hellz_hunter, no, wmv9 on amd64 will be hard
[10:13] <b_jonas> can anyone help me? I'd like a 8859_2-based hungarian locale and a 8859_2 encoded fixed font for xterm, but ubuntu seems to have only utf8 ones
[10:13] <Seveas> if not impossible
[10:13] <pax> jason, dapper from breezy.
[10:13] <carthik> marcin`, i suspect you'll find an answer here, I see quite a few: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+Fn+key+stuck
[10:13] <mheslep> fyrestrtr: have any experience w/ network installs? preseed / boot prompt question
[10:13] <pax> jason, I'm surprise they don't even include a mailer.
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> mheslep: not on ubuntu, sorry
[10:13] <javad> HI WHO KNOWS PROLOG HERE?PLEASE HELP ME...
[10:13] <_jason> pax: don't know of a default cli mail client then, you can always just apt-get mutt
[10:13] <lina> fyrestrtr, sry didn't know... better now... can u pls guide me thru the radio thingy... it seems u r the busiest here, umm do u want me to ask another time? it's ok w/ me
[10:13] <gilianima> When compiling a tarball, I get this error message, do I need a special package? => checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[10:13] <CNAP> ii can't access anything on the internet. can't ping, http, nothing. i check ifconfig eth0 and it's hitting my ISP and bringing down an IP address and everything. still not working
[10:14] <mheslep> fyrestrtr: or debian - same animal?
[10:14] <pax> jason, no doubt.
[10:14] <pez> Thanks fyrestrtr :-) They are picked in 'Computer'. Much appreciated
[10:14] <Riko> fyrestrtr, uhm maybe i'm retarded but i can't find any log for it in /var/log
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> lina: no its okay -- have you finished the steps in that wiki with the screenshots?
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> mheslep: try Gentoo :D
[10:14] <intelikey> Seveas could you point me to documentation on the two letter code that dpkg uses  for  packages    ii uu rc   and so forth ?     i looked in man aptitude   man apt-cache  and  man dpkg   nothing  there. ?
[10:14] <jimcooncat> CNAP, is it DNS? Did you try a plain IP address?
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> Riko: did you get a [ OK ]  when you ran the init script?
[10:14] <b_jonas> please
[10:14] <Riko> fyrestrtr, no it just returned to the next line, just like wu-ftpd did
[10:15] <lina> fyrestrtr,  I'm in the synaptic package manager now, but dunno wat next
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> Riko: run it with sudo
[10:15] <javad> Who knows PROLOG here?
[10:15] <CNAP> jimcooncat, yes i've pinged IP addresses and it still doesn't work
[10:15] <carthik> javad, no one
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> lina: okay no problem. Next step, click on Reload
[10:15] <marcin`> carthik: well no fast answer there and in fact there are patches required when FN doesn't work at all
[10:15] <Seveas> intelikey, look at the top of the output of dpkg -l
[10:15] <lina> k
[10:15] <Riko> fyrestrtr, it just hangs?
[10:15] <intelikey> k
[10:16] <marcin`> carthik: could you tell how to disable this key?
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> lina: when that is done, send me another message, and I'll tell you the next step.
[10:16] <scifi> fyrestrtr:  i will use ntfsprogs for future use. but is there a way of turning the default ones off and leaving the symlinks there which i just spent some time creating!! (reminds himself to decapitate cdubya when he returns :) )
[10:16] <pez> Well thanks to eveyone that has helped me. I am off to have a bath. I'm impressed with this ubuntu chat room.  :-) No doubt I'll be in here again!
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> Riko: check the output of /var/log/messages
[10:16] <javad> PROLOG?!!!!
[10:16] <m_tadeu> anyone?...i'm unable to run wvdial on a pcmcia modem...can anyone help, plz?
[10:16] <marcin`> carthik: I need really fast solution I have to give back this laptop in 15 minutes :(
[10:16] <carthik> javad, ask your real question, or please leave. dont keep repeating PROLOG
[10:16] <hellz_hunter> anyone else manage to get amd64 to play wmv9?
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> scifi: ah yes, sorry forgot your question. Hrmm, remove the default ones -- I don't know -- because essentially I think what you are doing now is, mounting the same device on two different places (which is perfectly legal in Linux)
[10:16] <Frogzoo> intelikey: gosh, that's awkward, no docs anywhere
[10:16] <b_jonas> someone please help. I don't want to use utf8 just because ubuntu doesn't have the necessary packages for 8859_2
[10:16] <carthik> marcin`, alright what laptop is this?
[10:17] <intelikey> Seveas hehhe thank you.   i guess sometimes  grep is not your friend...... :)
[10:17] <Riko> fyrestrtr, it just has internet input/output
[10:17] <lina> fyrestrtr... I clicked reload, it said no packages selected... lol...
[10:17] <jimcooncat> CNAP, the connection itself works ok though, for instance you're using it to post with now?
[10:17] <marcin`> carthik: some chinese crap
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> lina: okay no problem, it just needs to refresh.
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> lina: next click on Search
[10:17] <lina> k
[10:17] <carthik> marcin`, are you sure it's not a hardware problem?
[10:17] <marcin`> carthik: no name - celeron 2.4/512 MB
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> Riko: type ftp localhost -- see what it tells you
[10:17] <intelikey> Frogzoo Seveas pointed it out....  dpkg -l | less    read the top line....    hehhe no i feel really dumb...
[10:17] <marcin`> carthik: it is ok on windows
[10:18] <marcin`> carthik: and this keyboard works good on login
[10:18] <Bobrownik> i installed breezy using a different monitor then im usind right now and the only resolution thats available is 640x??? and 60mhz , help
[10:18] <lina> fyrestrtr, what should I type in the search field?
[10:18] <Riko> fyrestrtr, connection refused
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> Riko: means your server is not running
[10:18] <Taser> I've got a Dell Inspiron 4000 laptop running Ubuntu, but the TrackPoint device (nub in the middle of the keyboard) seems to be defective. In Windows, I can disable it, but I can't seem to do so in Ubuntu. Does anyone have any pointers?
[10:18] <Riko> yea its really weird eh
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> lina: gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:18] <trainstroker> how do i register .mpg files to play inside firefox
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> lina: let me know what it finds
[10:18] <javad> I have to test one prolog program but really I have problem in it!!!
[10:18] <Riko> fyrestrtr, should i reboot my computer or something? am i missing something it needs to run?
[10:18] <Frogzoo> intelikey: oic, yep, that works
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> !tell trainstroker about RestrictedFormats
[10:18] <scifi> fyrestrtr: LoL ok. its just my desktop looks a bit messy now with 4 links to the same 2 drives, i'll maybe delete the symlinks then use ntfsprogs to rename the default labels :x
[10:19] <Frogzoo> !tell Bobrownik about fixres
[10:19] <antisocial_boris> is there any reason a single file wont extract from a .zip but all the rest will
[10:19] <m_tadeu> anyone?...i'm unable to run wvdial on a pcmcia modem...can anyone help, plz? or indicate me a better suited place to ask!
[10:19] <LoRez> antisocial_boris: that one file is corrupt?
[10:19] <carthik> marcin`, quick fix?? well, try using xev to find out the keycode. then blacklist that key maybe ? blacklisting works like http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/02/10/unknown-key-pressed-error/
[10:19] <antisocial_boris> or to be more exact it wont extract on windows but will on ubuntu
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> Riko: no, no need to reboot -- you probably haven't configured the FTP server yet -- and it is obviously not listening on 21. You need to find the configuration file for pureftpd. It is usually in /etc/purftpd or somewhere like that. Iaef, just type sudo find / -name pureftpd.conf
[10:20] <newbuntie> what application do you use to burn data to cd? is there something that comes with the standard installation?
[10:20] <Frogzoo> newbuntie: install k3b & be happy
[10:20] <Bobrownik> thanks for the fixres
[10:20] <ggilbert> newbuntie: I'm a fan of gnomebaker, but I don't know if it's in main
[10:20] <carthik> newbuntie, nautilus the file manager can burn cds for you
[10:20] <dan_> I read that thing on how to install Skype but i am stuck on the first part where i have to go to the download directory. I know where i downloaded it - My desktop but what would that be in cd ~/download?
[10:21] <Riko> fyrestrtr, okay sounds good... my pureadmin also has the start server part greyed out... also do i have to set up users or something? it says something when i click on user manager about creating virtual users
[10:21] <carthik> dan_, copy it to the download directory then
[10:21] <Frogzoo> dan_: 'sudo apt-get install skype'
[10:21] <lina> fyrestrtr, gstreamer0.8-mad 0.8.8-1ubuntu4 MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin
[10:21] <carthik> dan_, create the download directory first if you need to
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> scifi: did you explore the Removable Drives and Media GUI helper thing from System -> Preferences ? Could be something there.
[10:21] <CNAP> jimcooncat, see that's the thing. i can't get onto the "Internet" no www, irc, ping. i just can hit my ISP bring down an IP and SM. FYI, i'm on irc using my windows box
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> lina: right it should have shown only one result on the top right window
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> lina: is that correct?
[10:22] <dan_> carthik - Where do i create one of them? I take it you mean a new folder right?
[10:22] <lina> fyrestrtr, yup, correct
[10:22] <scifi> neone know how to increase buffer size in x-chat?
[10:22] <carthik> dan_, well, if you need a "downloads" directory in your home folder, create one.
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> lina: click on the square and choose Mark for installation
[10:22] <CNAP> jimcooncat, if you care too i just posted my ifconfig and route onto pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12621
[10:22] <newbuntie> ok, thx frogzoo ggilbert and carthik
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> lina: when you have done that, open up the Search window again
[10:22] <carthik> dan_, create what you need, where you need
[10:23] <alexlatour> Hello
[10:23] <carthik> dan_, use nautilus, of course...
[10:23] <Frogzoo> newbuntie: yw
[10:23] <alexlatour> I shared a folder on my computer on the network
[10:23] <alexlatour> on the xp machine
[10:23] <alexlatour> it asks for  a user.pw
[10:23] <alexlatour> how do i find that out
[10:23] <scifi> fyrestrtr: just looked, cudnt see anything
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> lina: and this time type gstreamer0.8-plugins as your search
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> alexlatour: user guest (there is no password)
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> alexlatour: or, you can use your windows username/password
[10:24] <dan_> carthik - Whats  nautilus?
[10:24] <m_tadeu> anyone?...i'm unable to run wvdial on a pcmcia modem...can anyone help, plzzzzzz? or indicate me a better suited place to ask!
[10:24] <scifi> neone know how to increase buffer size in x-chat so previous conversations arent wiped out of existence in current session ? :x
[10:24] <_jason> ubotu: tell m_tadeu about support
[10:24] <lina> fyrestrtr, done the search, it's there... next?
[10:24] <carthik> dan_, thats the name of the default file broswer (like windows' explorer) on Ubuntu... you use it to access files etc?
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> lina: same thing, click on it, Mark for installation -- what else is in the search results?
[10:24] <PwcrLinux> hello, pls check on my paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12620
[10:25] <scifi> carthik - looks like hes gonna be hard work lol
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> lina: there should be two -- mark them both for installation.
[10:25] <intelikey> m_tadeu hmm  pon  poff  ?
[10:26] <carthik> scifi, well, he's new, and to be honest, there is no text "nautilus" anywhere in nautilus, or the menus :)
[10:26] <dan_> carthik - and where do i need to create it? it says "cd ~/download"
[10:26] <alexlatour> fyrestrlr it doesnt work
[10:26] <lina> fyrestrtr, done, it wasn't just two, there were many and I had marked them all for installation, did I do something wrong?
[10:26] <alexlatour> guest /
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> dan_: ~ is a shortcut to your home directory
[10:26] <Riko> fyrestrtr, got it... had to set /etc/default/pure-ftpd-common to run as standalone not init.d
[10:26] <scifi> carthik, yeh just kiddin, im a Noobie too
[10:26] <m_tadeu> intelikey the kernel detects the pcmcia and maps it to /dev/ttyS1 properli
[10:26] <alexlatour> i also shared one of the xp's folders on the network and i cant connect to it from ubuntu
[10:26] <alexlatour> it asks for a pw
[10:26] <carthik> dan_, ~/ refers to your home directory (/home/carthik for me /home/whatever-your-user-name-is for you)
[10:26] <m_tadeu> the device gets connected
[10:26] <Riko> yay
[10:26] <Riko> thx
[10:27] <carthik> dan_, so click on "places" then "home" in the menu on the top left of the screen. Then, in what opens up, right click and create a new folder and call it "download".
[10:27] <intelikey> m_tadeu i'm not familear with pcmcia  but if you can tell wvdial the correct device node it should work.... also of note you may have a winmodem and need propriatary driver
[10:27] <m_tadeu> intelikey i'm on windows right now :( thats why i'm so desperate
[10:27] <bungle> how do i install the latest version of gnome?
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> lina: no, but just mark gstreamer0.8-plugins and gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse -- if you see a gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg there, mark that too, and unmark the rest. When you have done that, click on the green check mark button on the menu bar marked apply. If you get any prompts, just click Ok on them.
[10:28] <dan_> carthik - Yep done
[10:28] <m_tadeu> intelikey the fact is that i had this working, but i reinstalled everything and now its not
[10:28] <intelikey> m_tadeu you did a wvdialconf <file>   didn't you ?
[10:28] <m_tadeu> intelikey yup...it fails sending an ATZ to the modem
[10:28] <carthik> dan_, there, now you can copy whatever you have on the desktop to the download folder and carry on from there, following the guide you talked about earlier
[10:28] <scifi> neone know how to increase buffer size in x-chat so previous conversations arent wiped out of existence in current session ? :x
[10:29] <itrebal> i just installed ubuntu, but i can't get blackbox... i thought i saw it in the packages before... any ideas?
[10:29] <bungle> how do i install the latest version of gnome? 2.14
[10:29] <intelikey> m_tadeu mmm remove and reinsert the modem  and retry ?
[10:29] <m_tadeu> intelikey already did :(
[10:29] <carthik> scifi, pref-interface-textbox-scrollbacklines
[10:29] <lina> fyrestrtr, I had marked them all prior to reading ur typing that only 2 there, now how could I go back?
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> scifi: best to ask in #xchat
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> lina: just do the search again, and they will show up.
[10:30] <alexlatour> I shared a folder on my computer on the network
[10:30] <intelikey> m_tadeu like i said "i'm not familear with PCMCIA"  i'll have to pass on this one.  hope some one else can help you get it going.
[10:30] <alexlatour> i also shared one of the xp's folders on the network and i cant connect to it from ubuntu
[10:30] <alexlatour> it askes for a pw
[10:30] <ompaul> scifi, settings preferences text settings scrollback lines
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> alexlatour: the default password is ... no password. If that doesn't work, you need to connect to it using the same username/password as your windows box.
[10:31] <scifi> carthik: ty i changed it too 10,000, lol thats ok i believe?
[10:31] <b_jonas> scifi: I know
[10:31] <dan_> carthik - get the same error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12622
[10:31] <b_jonas> it's in the preferences
[10:31] <carthik> scifi, whatever suits you
[10:31] <marcin`> carthik: well I just had to give back this laptop to customer :(
[10:31] <b_jonas> select "Text box" on the left and change the "scrollback lines" text box value
[10:32] <marcin`> carthik: and about xev this was first thing I did
[10:32] <bungle> !gnome
[10:32] <carthik> dan_, dude, you still dont have that folder there :)
[10:32] <m_tadeu> intelikey i don't think its pcmcia specific....i tryed to run kppp and it reports the modem is busy....does it ring a bell?
[10:32] <carthik> dan, okay, with me, open a terminal. okay?
[10:32] <dan_> carthik - The folders there
[10:32] <marcin`> carthik: and problem was that there was no reaction in xev when I pressed this FN button :(
[10:32] <scifi> b_jones, thanks but carthink/ompaul told me already m8
[10:32] <tusharsharma> hi room
[10:32] <lina> fyrestrtr, I searched gstreamer0.8-plugins again, and it came out the only one there?
[10:32] <carthik> dan_, open a terminal please :)
[10:32] <tusharsharma> can any one give a link for yahoo messanger for ubuntu
[10:33] <alexlatour> fyestrtr i tried everything nothing works
[10:33] <intelikey> m_tadeu not really.   maybe the phone line is not connected
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> lina: ah well, don't worry about it -- it shouldn't break anything. Just click on Apply
[10:33] <Jimmey__> tusharsharma, use Gaim
[10:33] <carthik> dan, after you have, please paste the output of the command ls at the pastebin and let me know
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> tusharsharma: use gaim, or messenger.yahoo.com -- its there.
[10:33] <Taser> I've got a Dell Inspiron 4000 laptop running Ubuntu, but the TrackPoint device (nub in the middle of the keyboard) seems to be defective. In Windows, I can disable it, but I can't seem to do so in Ubuntu. Does anyone have any pointers?
[10:33] <bungle> how do i install the latest version of gnome? 2.14
[10:33] <dan_> carthik - done
[10:33] <tusharsharma> ok did
[10:33] <weedar> I want to encrypt a folder (or a small partition) with the strongest encryption available. What can you guys reccommend? (which tools do I need?)
[10:33] <lina> fyrestrtr, should I choose to be installed or unchanged?
[10:34] <tusharsharma> one error came when try to oprn that saved folder
[10:34] <carthik> dan_, pastebin url please?
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> lina: just click Ok
[10:34] <tusharsharma> i think archive not supported
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> Taser: fwiw, on my Thinkpad, I can disable that damn rubberhead from BIOS
[10:34] <itrebal> any ideas why blackbox isn't on my apt-get list?
[10:34] <intelikey> m_tadeu it doesn't seem reasonable to blame hardware if you are currently talking on it.
[10:34] <tusharsharma> aa
[10:34] <[cro] smiley> Does anyone have experience with building gnomemm project in Anjuta?
[10:34] <[cro] smiley> 
[10:35] <lina> fyrestrtr, I couldn't click ok, when I clicked appy.. it prompted to be removed, to be installed or unchanged
[10:35] <tusharsharma> what i do
[10:35] <scifi> just 1 more question for tonight guys, how do i install an mp3 codec?
[10:35] <carthik> dan_, with me still?
[10:35] <_jason> ubotu: tell scifi about mp3
[10:35] <Taser> fyrestrtr: Does it kill the touchpad as well? I'd just like to disable the one pointing device.
[10:35] <odat> i lost my last panel
[10:35] <erUSUL> weedar: look in google for loop-aes or dm-drypt
[10:35] <odat> what can i do?
[10:36] <scifi> _jason: ty
[10:36] <dan_> carthik - Yeah 2 secs - Soz what did you want me to type in the termonal?
[10:36] <weedar> erUSUL, but is AES really that strong an encryption algorithm? I seem to remember vaguely that there exists a stronger algorithm
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> lina: there should be an Apply button in the window that pops up when you click Apply from the main Synaptic window. Click on Apply on the window that says Apply the following changes?
[10:36] <carthik> dan_, type pwd and then type ls and paste the output of those two commands.
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> Taser: on mine, nope.
[10:36] <carthik> dan_, at hte pastebin and gimme a url
[10:37] <C-O-L-T> Ubuntu - Linux for human beings!!!
[10:37] <Dutchy> im not human :< can I still use Ubuntu?
[10:37] <tusharsharma> and my ubuntu unable to play mp3 too
[10:37] <intelikey> C-O-L-T-Z-Z-Z does that mean other releases are NOT for humans ?
[10:37] <_jason> Dutchy: yes
[10:37] <tusharsharma> what i need to d/l
[10:37] <dan_> carthik - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12623
[10:37] <erUSUL> with dm-crypt ypu can choose from all of the kernel ones afaik
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> !tell tusharsharma about mp3
[10:37] <_jason> ubotu: tell tusharsharma about mp3
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> lol jason
[10:38] <bungle> how do i install the latest version of gnome? 2.14
[10:38] <C-O-L-T> Ubuntu - Linux for human beings!!!
[10:38] <weedar> Goodie, I'll take a look at it then. Thanks erUSUL =)
[10:38] <_jason> bungle: are you using breezy?
[10:38] <alexlatour> _jason you here
[10:38] <carthik> dan_, alright, so you have a dir called download, now try a $cd download ?
[10:38] <Dutchy> ok, I was afraid Linux for humans implied ONLY humans :)
[10:38] <_jason> alexlatour: yeah, what's up?
[10:38] <tusharsharma> helpm e
[10:38] <_jason> !helpme
[10:38] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[10:38] <carthik> dan_, are you sure download is a directory and not just a file?
[10:38] <alexlatour> do you know alot about sharinG?
[10:38] <ompaul> C-O-L-T-Sleeping, rather than changing your nick you can do /away sleeping and then if someone uses your nick they get the message cheers
[10:38] <_jason> alexlatour: sharing what?
[10:38] <bungle> yes _jason
[10:38] <alexlatour> i shared a drive on my network in ubuntu
[10:39] <alexlatour> and when i go on the xp machine it askes for a user/pw
[10:39] <sonsnix> hey guys, i need some help with my wlan card
[10:39] <sonsnix> has anyone experience with that topic?
[10:39] <dan_> carthik - its a file
[10:39] <lina> fyrestrtr, now I have a green square beside gstreamer
[10:39] <alexlatour> i put "guest" for the user and it still doesnt work
[10:39] <_jason> bungle: dapper, the next version of ubuntu will have gnome 2.14.  It is scheduled to be released on June 1st
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> lina: yaay, means its installed :D
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> lina: okay, now exit Synaptic
[10:39] <bungle> but can i try 2.14 vwith breezy now?
[10:39] <C-O-L-T-Sleeping> intelikey: that is the motto of ubuntu :)
[10:40] <carthik> dan_, okay, so that is your problem, then, a file is not a directory! delete download and create a directory called download. you can do this at the command line using $rm -rf download  and then $mkdir download
[10:40] <intelikey> ompaul hmmm we could test that theory....
[10:40] <_jason> alexlatour: ah sorry, i don't know about sharing windows drives
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> lina: then click on Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[10:40] <sonsnix> i installed the driver via ndiswrapper, activated my wlan card, now downloaded some firmware for the device (i dont know whether its the right one)
[10:40] <ompaul> intelikey, and I can test my response :-)
[10:40] <alexlatour> k
[10:40] <carthik> dan_, good luck with everything. I have to go now.
[10:40] <ZeZu> what is a quick ftp daemon to setup in ubuntu easily ?
[10:40] <lina> fyrestrtr... done and thanks a lot, but still need guide to the radio? yes, I'm in terminal now
[10:40] <grap3> Guys, I've got a problem with my fresh Ubuntu install. X won't load and says that there are no display devices. Why is it doing that?
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> lina: yes, its not done yet.
[10:40] <mheslep> install question: Im trying to use some installer parameters on the command line instead of in preseed:   mirror/host string blah   and the like.  Is that possible?  The only boot/install paramters for which I can find examples are 'netcfg', etc
[10:41] <intelikey> C-O-L-T-Sleeping i know    and i don't like it.   it makes a claim that ubumtu is the only distro that is user friendly    and that's  a false claim.
[10:41] <sonsnix> and when i type "ifconfig eth1 up" i get the error: "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not permitted"
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> lina: type this : mkdir installation-files && cd installation-files
[10:41] <C-O-L-T-Sleeping> intelikey: okay I will get out that away message :)
[10:41] <ompaul> intelikey, no it suggests that amoung its qualities is that it aims to be useful for humans
[10:41] <arrick> what are some good bittorrent sites?
[10:41] <tusharsharma> what plugin do i need to play mp3
[10:41] <ompaul> !tell tusharsharma about restricted
[10:42] <_jason> tusharsharma: check your private messages from ubotu
[10:42] <intelikey> as opposed to ?
[10:42] <ompaul> tusharsharma, please check your messages from ubotu
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> lina: then, copy and paste this line EXACTLY -- and hit enter : wget -c ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[10:42] <tusharsharma> what message
[10:42] <tusharsharma> like
[10:42] <ompaul> intelikey, not useful
 Guys, I've got a problem with my fresh Ubuntu install. X won't load and says that there are no display devices. Why is it doing that?
[10:42] <ompaul> tusharsharma, what irc client are you using - if it is one with tabs then please click on the tab marked ubout
[10:42] <dan_> carthik - i just the message saying "bash: -rf: command not found
[10:42] <dan_> "
[10:42] <ompaul> tusharsharma, ubotu
[10:43] <scifi> guys, ive pasted my error message on pastebin, no.d12624 after trying to install gstreamer0.8-mad, pls help
[10:43] <intelikey> like i said,  i makes the claim that ubuntu is the only "human usable, user friendly" distro.    and that's a false claim.
[10:43] <sonsnix> is there a german version of this channel?
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> lina: after that is finished, type this > sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[10:44] <intelikey> !de
[10:44] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> !de
[10:44] <ompaul> intelikey, where is that atm?
[10:44] <arrick> does anyone in here use bittorrent?
[10:44] <sonsnix> thanks
[10:44] <networker_> Why doesn't ubuntu update manager give me the new firefox?
[10:44] <intelikey> ompaul ?
[10:44] <green_earz> arrick: http://www.mininova.org/ http://thepiratebay.org/ http://isohunt.com/ http://www.chomskytorrents.org/
[10:44] <Xar_frustriert> does here anyone use lilypond?
[10:44] <tusharsharma> ok i clicked double
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> !tell networker_ about ff1.5
[10:44] <Dutchy> arrick, sometimes, why?
[10:44] <ompaul> intelikey, to say this -- Linux for Human Beings  -- may indicate that it is not embedded with no output
[10:45] <networker_> thank you sir
[10:45] <arrick> thanks green_earz , Dutchy I wanted the sites that weregood
[10:45] <scifi> guys, ive pasted my error message on pastebin, no.d12624 after trying to install gstreamer0.8-mad, pls help
[10:45] <Dutchy> ok :>
[10:45] <ompaul> networker_, because the existing one gets patched and managed by the distro
[10:45] <Dutchy> there's newnova.org too :)
[10:45] <Zarephath> Need someone to school me on how to add my hard drive to the gnome desktop?
[10:45] <lina> fyrestrtr, all done... what else?
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> Zarephath: just mount it, it'll show up.
[10:45] <green_earz> arrick: well whats the matter with the links i posted ?
[10:46] <dan_> !skype
[10:46] <ubotu> somebody said skype was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[10:46] <AMDXP> !automount
[10:46] <Zarephath> fyrestrtr: Alas this is not the case...
[10:46] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, AMDXP
[10:46] <arrick> I am using them, thats why I thanked you green_earz
[10:46] <|lostbyte_laptop> Help !
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> lina: type : sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[10:46] <green_earz> arrick: sorry
[10:46] <intelikey> ompaul which says other linuii are.    a simple  artical would change the meaning of the moto   "A linux for human beings"    that says there are others  but  "linux for human beings"  says it's the only one.
[10:46] <dan_> How do i create a directory?
[10:47] <Zarephath> dan_: mkdir
[10:47] <scifi> pls someone take a look at my pastebin: d12624
[10:47] <|lostbyte_laptop> i cannot do "f" fullscreen for a dvd i am currently playing.. ?
[10:47] <intelikey> dan_ assuming you have write permission   mkdir  dirname        else   sudo mkdir newdir
[10:48] <networker_> lostbyte, you need to use the xv mplayer video driver
[10:48] <networker_> i think mplayer uses straight x11 or soemthing by default and it doesn't scale
[10:48] <mertha> #books
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> vlc does full screen dvds
[10:49] <networker_> it'd be something like: mplayer -vo xv dvd://
[10:49] <bliss1_> hi
[10:49] <lina> fyrestrtr, I was late to reply do you want to continue, should I repeat the sudo stuff?
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> what is the last thing you did?
[10:49] <Sodium> I'm trying to run a game but it claims I got no tables.dat (I suppose it's SDL). But there are lots of SDL packages.. which one should I install?
[10:50] <scifi> guys, ive pasted my error message on pastebin, no.d12624 after trying to install gstreamer0.8-mad, pls help
[10:51] <tusharsharma> what codecs do i need to play mp3 in ubuntu
[10:51] <erUSUL> !mp3
[10:51] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:51] <erUSUL> scifi: pastebin url?
[10:51] <networker_> thanks guys i love you bye
[10:51] <scifi> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12624
[10:51] <cih997> hello, I want to print something on Ubuntu Live CD, anyone know how can I do it? I have a HP deskjet
[10:52] <bliss1_> erUSUL hi
[10:52] <Crazy6> hey, so, I am trying to isntall the Intel ipw3945 driver on my machine here, and I am having a bit of a problem. I have it to the point where doing a modprobe will work 9automatically loads the firmsware and daemons and provides eth1), yet the computer hangs when starting networking at boot
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> cih997: a permanent marker > HP deskjet
[10:52] <erUSUL> bliss1_: hi!
[10:52] <chatboy> !wine
[10:52] <ompaul> cih997, you need to get yourself labels and they have standard templates
[10:52] <erUSUL> scifi: have you got all repos enabled?
[10:53] <tusharsharma> dose mp3 codecs r paid
[10:53] <beerockxs> can someone help me with a xcompmgr problem?
[10:53] <lina> fyrestrtr, I did, hope it wasn't a mistake... the last line was setting up mozilla-mplayer (2.70-1ubuntu1) ... and it's waiting 4 my command again
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> lina: okay good
[10:53] <bliss1_> cannot understand whay my cpu is always running at 100%
[10:53] <dan_> Installed skype but when i click on the app it dont do anything
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> now, go to www.live365.com -- and see if you can listen to the stream (do this first)
[10:53] <Dutchy> talking about torrents... is this one working for anyone or is it jsut me having problems: http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3281849&page=2
[10:54] <scifi> erUSUL: no only the CD and community maintained repos enabled
[10:54] <erUSUL> scifi: multiverse?
[10:54] <Dutchy> nvm, it seems to be working now
[10:54] <jarus> help
[10:55] <jarus> zna sie ktos na ubuntu
[10:55] <scifi> erUSUL:  yes
[10:55] <Sodium> I'm trying to run a game but it claims I got no tables.dat (I suppose it's SDL). But there are lots of SDL packages.. which one should I install?
[10:55] <carthik> jarus, what language is that?
[10:55] <jarus> poland
[10:55] <carthik> jarus #ubuntu-pl please
[10:55] <Nomad411> !wine
[10:55] <erUSUL> scifi: is very strange. are you using dapper?
[10:55] <lina> fyrestrtr, the error msg said: new face failed. maybe the font path is wrong. please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf).
[10:55] <jarus> ok
[10:55] <bungle> !ekiga
[10:55] <ubotu> methinks ekiga is full-featured SIP and H.323 compatible VoIP, IP-Telephony and Videoconferencing application that allows you to make audio and video calls to remote users with SIP and H.323 hardware or software.
[10:56] <fyrestrtr> lina: hrmm -- that is weird.
[10:56] <Nomad411> no entry for wine?
[10:56] <Nomad411> !winehq
[10:56] <ubotu> Nomad411: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:56] <Nomad411> !wine
[10:56] <tusharsharma> what u guys use to play mp3
[10:56] <bliss1_> carthik: hi
[10:56] <scifi> erUSUL:  community maintained - Universe, non-free - Multiverse, no breezy
[10:56] <lina> fyrestrtr, should I click ok on that error msg?
[10:56] <carthik> bliss1_, do we know each other?
[10:56] <ompaul> !+wine
[10:56] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run the majority of windows programs. To get wine installed, download http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wine/wine_0.9.10-winehq1-2_i386.deb then follow this guide to installing it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585 More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq
[10:56] <ZeZu> setting up  ftp is a real task eh ?
[10:56] <jarus> #ubuntu-pl please
[10:56] <Nomad411> ahh.. Why the + ?
[10:57] <carthik> jarus, /join #ubuntu-pl
[10:57] <ompaul> jarus,    >>>>/join #ubuntu-pl<<<<<
[10:57] <bliss1_> carthik: i think so you told me about apros
[10:57] <erUSUL> it should be no problems i'm using breezy now without problems. try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:57] <carthik> bliss1_, apropos, yes
[10:57] <ompaul> Nomad411, the length of it - /msg ubotu when you next want it :-)
[10:57] <fyrestrtr> lina: type sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts in your terminal, that should take care of it.
[10:57] <Nomad411> ompaul: Oh ok, thanks :)
[10:58] <bliss1_> carthik: apropos yes thats it
[10:58] <beerockxs> are there packages for gcompmgr anywhere?
[10:59] <scifi> erUSUL:  0 upgraded, 0 installed
[10:59] <Nomad411> Is there a different wine for AMD64 ?
[10:59] <bliss1_> carthik: just wondering why my cpu is always running at 100%
[10:59] <ompaul> !tell Nomad411 about chroot
[10:59] <ompaul> Nomad411, I believe its a lot of trouble
[11:00] <Nomad411> ahh.
[11:00] <erUSUL> scifi: try again to install mad plugin
[11:00] <arrick> hey in bittorent what is a leacher?
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> bliss1_: top can tell you that
[11:00] <Nomad411> !tell chatboy about chroot
[11:00] <chatboy> !Broadcom
[11:00] <ubotu> I heard broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> arrick: something that is downloading but not uploading (just like everywhere else)
[11:00] <arrick> ok thanks
[11:01] <lina> fyrestrtr, done, got a blue mplayer box w/ big > sign, but nothing happened when clicked
[11:01] <PwcrLinux> hello, pls check on my paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12620
[11:01] <dan_> Installed skype but when i click on the app it dont do anything
[11:01] <bungle> !xgl
[11:01] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> lina: okay
[11:01] <scifi> erUSUL:  same error
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> what stream is it? paste the URL
[11:01] <carthik> bliss1_, use the command "top" to see what's using the cpu so much
[11:02] <ompaul> dan_, open a terminal and type skpe - so then paste the output in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:02] <bliss1_> fyrestrtr: thanks
[11:02] <mundi> hi all
[11:02] <bliss1_> carthik; I just did its a demon
[11:03] <tusharsharma> tell me guys
[11:03] <carthik> bliss1_, which one is it? you can kill it using it's pid $kill -9 pid
[11:03] <tusharsharma> what i use to play mp3 in ubuntu
[11:03] <lina> fyrestrtr, http://www.live365.com/stations/lovesongsradio
[11:03] <carthik> tusharsharma, everytime you've asked that, someone has pointed you to the right wiki page :)
[11:03] <mundi> i got a quest?? does anybody knows why firefox i loading so slow web pages ?? i have dhcp set up in net configuration ??
[11:03] <freeone3000> Hello... I haven't used ubuntu, trying to get X to work. Temporarily using it, comp sci lab. Are there any known problems with Xorg 6.8.2 on PowerPC Ubuntu Linux kernel 2.6.12?
[11:04] <rhinovirus> I just installed dapper, but I don't have permissions to read my NTFS partition (I can read it as root), this is the line in /etc/fstab: /dev/hda1       /windows     ntfs    user,umask=0222  0       0
[11:04] <ompaul> tusharsharma, once installed xmms totem just click on one
[11:04] <ompaul> rhinovirus, go to channel #ubuntu+1 to talk about dapper and (/msg ubotu ntfs) to get the answer to your question :)
[11:04] <bliss1_> cartick: strange you may not know it but i have problems configreing it strange its useing 86% is called mixmaster
[11:05] <rhinovirus> ntfs    user,umask=0222  0       0
[11:05] <rhinovirus> 22:04 < ompaul> tusharsharma, once installed xmms totem just click on one
[11:05] <rhinovirus> 22:04 -!- itrebal [n=itrebal@adsl-067-034-184-115.sip.mco.bellsouth.net]  has left #ubuntu [] 
[11:05] <rhinovirus> 22:04 -!- trainstroker [n=phillip@adsl-072-148-237-202.sip.asm.bellsouth.net]  has joined #ubuntu
[11:05] <carthik> bliss1_, sorry I have no experience with that
[11:05] <FlannelKing> !tell mundi about ipv6
[11:05] <rhinovirus> 22:04 < ompaul> rhinovirus, go to channel #ubuntu+1 to talk about dapper and (/msg ubotu ntfs) to
[11:05] <rhinovirus>                 get the answer to your question :)
[11:05] <rhinovirus> 22:04 < bliss1_> cartick: strange you may not know it but i have problems configreing it strange
[11:05] <rhinovirus>                  its useing 86% is called mixmaster
[11:05] <rhinovirus> uh woops wrong key combo
[11:05] <rhinovirus> sorry
[11:05] <FlannelKing> mundi: check your messages
[11:05] <trainstroker> when i have totem-xine running on my ubuntu a video will play and some streaming video will also play. on totem-gstreamer nothing plays. is there a way to fix it or should i just use totem-xine?
[11:06] <scifi> erUSUL:  any ideas m8?
[11:06] <bliss1_> cartick ; PID  6827
[11:06] <shale> i'm trying to migrate a number of our computers to thin clients using ubuntu & xdmcp.... can anyone recommend a good desktop publishing app under gnome?
[11:06] <bliss1_> ompaul: hi
[11:06] <carthik> trainer, you may not have the gstreamer plugins. or maybe you can only have one of totem-xine and totem-gstreamer at one time
[11:06] <izmaelis> how to combine multipart newsgroup messages in thunderbird?
[11:06] <trainstroker> rhinovirus
[11:07] <ompaul> bliss1_, 7oC and cloudy
[11:07] <PwcrLinux> hello, pls check on my paste at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12620
[11:07] <bliss1_> ompaul; but getting warmer
[11:07] <Crazy6> so when modules are loaded at bootup, does it not do a normal modprobe ?
[11:07] <ompaul> PwcrLinux, what caused that, now that I think to ask
[11:07] <fyrestrtr> lina: you need flash to make that work, its not a stream you can listen to in the player.
[11:07] <Crazy6> becasue I have this ipw3945 modules, which works fine with modprobe
[11:07] <Crazy6> but doesnt work fine on bootup
[11:08] <lina> fyrestrtr, does it mean nothing I can do to make it work? or is there a way to enable flash?
[11:08] <_jeff> hey guys
[11:08] <scifi> hi guys, please read http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12624. got this error when trying to install gstreamer0.8-mad
[11:08] <_jeff> suspect says hes sorry
[11:09] <motw> i have a question about dapper beta - will i need to reinstall once dapper comes out, or will i be able to just upgrade from beta?
[11:09] <_jeff> and he doesnt want to be banned anymore
[11:09] <PwcrLinux> ompaul: the update notifier appeared on the taskbar and I go ahead to update my system, I checked the terminal while updating (small terminal box), I noticed some of errors or warning.., had you updated it and gets errors or warning?
[11:09] <jeff303> does anyone know what ubuntu package contains the "dos2unix" and/or "unix2dos" commands?
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> lina: type sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[11:09] <bimberi> shale: scribus is one
[11:09] <carthik> motw, you can upgrade
[11:09] <shale> thank you bimberi
[11:09] <shale> we'll check it out
[11:09] <_jeff> can anybody unban 'suspect'?
[11:09] <carthik> jeff303, try searching in "name and description" in synaptic
[11:09] <ompaul> PwcrLinux, no I have not noticed that error, are you using dapper?
[11:09] <_jeff> from this channel?
[11:09] <bimberi> shale: np :)
[11:09] <sagalal> Hello all
[11:09] <motw> carthik, and it should definitely work?
[11:10] <freeone3000> So. I found something, through the miracle of grep. It can't "read the V_BIOS (5)" and there was "No DFP detected".
[11:10] <ompaul> PwcrLinux, if so restarting gnome might be in order
[11:10] <lina> fyrestrtr, done boss
[11:10] <freeone3000> What are the problems with those?
[11:10] <jeff303> carthik: tried that but got no results
[11:10] <carthik> motw, yes it should. for the most. any problems you might have can be sorted out
[11:10] <jeff303> carthik: which surprises me since they're fairly common utils
[11:10] <ithiel> hi all
[11:10] <motw> carthik, and how bout upgrading from breezy to the dapper beta? is that recommended? or a fresh install?
[11:10] <PwcrLinux> ompaul: no I am on the normal version of breezy. let me get which version of codenames..
[11:10] <carthik> jeff303, is it not there in the sysutils package?
[11:11] <sagalal> Question: How do you delete a printer driver in Breezy
[11:11] <sagalal> ?
[11:11] <sagalal> :)
[11:11] <carthik> motw, you can upgrade, but there might be some problems. try that and then if that fails install fresh? backup all you need to.
[11:11] <scifi> hi guys, please read http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12624. got this error when trying to install gstreamer0.8-mad
[11:11] <jeff303> carthik: ah right you are, thanks
[11:11] <motw> carthik, thanks, i've been scared to do anything yet - don't want to lose anything
[11:12] <_jeff> whos the admin of this channel/
[11:12] <_jeff> ?
[11:12] <Crazy6> does anyone have ipw3945 working?
[11:12] <lapatsos> hello
[11:12] <PwcrLinux> ompaul: Yea, I already rebooted
[11:12] <bungle> !flumotion
[11:12] <ubotu> bungle: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:12] <carthik> motw, backup all that is precious in any case, even if you are not upgrading
[11:12] <motw> carthik, will do, thanks for the help
[11:13] <carthik> ompaul, sorry but jeff_ wants you to unban "suspect" :)
[11:13] <apache2> hey so I'm kinda new to the apt-respitory ---> is there any way I can setup certain packages with certain build options, like PHP with GD support?
[11:13] <lina> fyrestrtr, ???
[11:13] <lapatsos> i am a new user ... first time in linux
[11:13] <ompaul> carthik, i'll see why they were banned
[11:13] <ompaul> brb
[11:13] <apache2> or do I have to compile manually?
[11:13] <scifi> hi guys, please read http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12624. got this error when trying to install gstreamer0.8-mad
[11:13] <carthik> apache2, you install php and install the package for enabling gd support in php
[11:14] <freeone3000> apache2: You say that like it's a bad thing. But modphp5-gd or something similar should be avlaible.
[11:14] <apache2> freeone3000: alright sweet :)
[11:14] <apache2> I'm so used to the portage system
[11:14] <arrick> carthik, is there micosoft frontpage extension support for apache2?
[11:14] <PhoenixP3K> Hi, I'd like to know if there is a way to disable update notification for a specific package ?
[11:15] <carthik> arrick, search in synaptic under "name and description" please
[11:15] <freeone3000> So. Any ideas why X doesn't work? I've even grepped through it myself, though for some reason, w3m isn't recognizing the google search bar, thus denying me of that resource.
[11:15] <freeone3000> !ggl
[11:15] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, freeone3000
[11:15] <arrick> thanks
[11:15] <sagalal> Details: I installed some drivers for the Kyocera Mita 1010 Printer (that wasn't originally listed in the mountains of printers that are supported). I clicked on install driver and then on cancel. Then I clicked on New Printer again. Now The MITA printer is no longer in the list, and when I try to install the driver, it says "printer already installed". So I would like to manually delete the...
[11:15] <sagalal> ...printer driver.
[11:15] <Bobrownik> whats the default music player in gnome?
[11:15] <fyrestrtr> lina: type that in a terminal, and hit enter to enable flash
[11:15] <Jowi> Bobrownik: rhythmbox
[11:15] <fyrestrtr> lina: type --> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla <-- type that
[11:16] <carthik> sagalal, try deleting the printer and reinstalling it
[11:16] <lapatsos> help me ????
[11:16] <bliss1_> cartick: thanks killed it
[11:16] <scifi> carthik: u genius pls read my pastbin  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12624
[11:16] <Bobrownik> yes , thank you , rythmbox.... are there any better apps or is this as good as it gets on linux?
[11:16] <lina> fyrestrtr, I did n the last line was setting up flashplayer-mozilla (7.0.25-0.0) ...
[11:16] <sagalal> Carthik: The printer isn't even installed. It is just the driver that is installed. But when I want to add a new printer, the newly installed driver doesn't appear in the list, although I cannot readd it
[11:16] <sagalal> *re-add
[11:17] <freeone3000> lina: I like Mplayer and noatun.
[11:17] <carthik> scifi, try $sudo apt-get -f install    to fix the broken packages issue, and i'm just a normal user.
[11:17] <PwcrLinux> ompaul: I'm waiting :)
[11:17] <freeone3000> *Bobroownik
[11:17] <ompaul> jeff I have to find the ban - when where they banned
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> lina: that's it, you are done.
[11:17] <freeone3000> I blame the console...
[11:17] <ompaul> and what is their ip now?
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> you have flash now, your radio station should work.
[11:17] <lina> lemme try it
[11:17] <dilyx> Anyone here that knows what this error means when trying to start a windows game with Wine.. I get the following errors.. and a lot of them..: err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[11:17] <carthik> sagalal, hmm, try choosing the manually install driver option, instead of choosing from the list of drivers ?
[11:17] <ompaul> jeff they can msg me hello - no promises
[11:17] <patrick221> how would i uninstall apache as i seem to be running both apache and apache2
[11:17] <apache2> where are typical config files stored for various apps?
[11:18] <carthik> _jeff read what ompaul said above
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> dilyx: if the game works, you can ignore those
[11:18] <carthik> thanks ompaul :)
[11:18] <dilyx> but the game doesent work :(
[11:18] <_jeff> ok, thanks guys
[11:18] <Bobrownik> thanks free.. ill try those
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> dilyx: what game?
[11:18] <dilyx> also if i try to start notpad.exe
[11:18] <bliss1_> carthik: I would like to set a few custom permission rules in /etc/udev/permissions.d/udev.permissions
[11:18] <dilyx> any game
[11:18] <scifi> carthik: it says  "Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)"
[11:18] <carthik> bliss1_, sorry dude, but that seems beyond me :)
[11:18] <ompaul> PwcrLinux, I am not good with that, what you need to find is an "apt-get" and "pin" faq
[11:19] <carthik> scifi, that is because you have two of apt-get running (or synaptic and apt-get etc) close the other one(s)
[11:19] <lina> fyrestrtr... got the blue box, but not playing... I'm totally lost.. hiks hiks
[11:19] <patrick221> how would i uninstall apache as i seem to be running both apache and apache2
[11:19] <PwcrLinux> ompaul: alright, I guess some ppls might get error or warning while updating the system..
[11:19] <fyrestrtr> lina: blue box?
[11:19] <bliss1_> I would like to set a few custom permission rules in /etc/udev/permissions.d/udev.permissions
[11:19] <carthik> patrick221, sudo apt-get --purge remove <package-name>
[11:20] <lina> fyrestrtr, yup, blue box... the mplayer
[11:20] <fyrestrtr> lina: wait a sec
[11:20] <ompaul> PwcrLinux, not usual unless you mix sources offical and unoffical
[11:20] <Sodium> how can I create a shell script that can CD to a directory and run a program?
[11:20] <gnomefreak> ompaul: !pinning if that is faq you ment
[11:20] <gnomefreak> meant
[11:20] <lina> fyrestrtr, k, will wait... tia
[11:21] <gnomefreak> Sodium: cd <dir> <enter> whatever command you want to run once cd'ed
[11:21] <sagalal> Carthik: So I shouldn't do it this way:  Printer dialog -> (No printers installed) -> Open Add a New Printer dialog -> "Use another printer by specifying the port" + next -> Click on Kyocera -> Oh! The printer I JUST installed (in a previous cycle) is not here anymore -> Try clicking on install driver and install the same printer -> "Sorry Printer is already installed". How do you get to the...
[11:21] <ploom> Sodium, you open a file, put the shell commands inside, make it executable and then run it as a shell script - how about that for a start?
[11:21] <sagalal> ..."manual install" page
[11:21] <sagalal> or is it like hacking :)
[11:21] <scifi> carthik: cudnt see anything else open. so closed re-opened terminal, but still get same error
[11:21] <gnomefreak> Sodium: there are other ways to seperate commands but i cant remember off hand
[11:21] <PwcrLinux> ompaul: how I get the current version of ubuntu?
[11:21] <PhoenixP3K> Anyone here using Firefox 1.5 ?
[11:21] <arrick> anyone: I found the libapache-mod-frontpage-mirfak in synaptic, but i am wanting to install it on a server with no gui, any help here?
[11:22] <carthik> scifi, hmm, synaptic, or update-manager or some terminal has to be open :)
[11:22] <Sodium> ploom: I've already tried putting the commands in a file, save as .sh and make it executable, but nothing will happen
[11:22] <lina> freeone3000, wat is noatun? sry, noob here
[11:22] <carthik> sagalal, hmm, I have not a clue now.
[11:22] <dj-fu> arrick, apt-get install <package>
[11:23] <PwcrLinux> carthik: look for error or warning in the small terminal, if you find it. you might get same as mines..
[11:23] <carthik> PwcrLinux, ??
[11:23] <arrick> thanks dj-fu
[11:23] <PwcrLinux> carthik: did you get 4 updates on notification?
[11:24] <carthik> PwcrLinux, you must be confusing me for someone else, I dont have any problems currently :)
[11:24] <gnomefreak> Sodium: you might want to look at abs-guide in synaptic its called abs  theres alsoa  site to read it from but dont remember name of site
[11:24] <fyrestrtr> lina: I got your problem solved. The radio is streaming shoutcast. Do this.
[11:24] <fyrestrtr> lina: sudo apt-get install xmms
[11:24] <PwcrLinux> carthik: okay :)
[11:24] <freeone3000> lina: KDE's media player.
[11:24] <PhoenixP3K> How do you turn off update notification for firefox? I've got 1.5 but update manager wants me to upgrade to 1.0.8 from ubuntu
[11:25] <freeone3000> lina: Seriously, apt-cache search media player. FLLike, 500.
[11:25] <PwcrLinux> PhoenixP3K: untick it
[11:25] <carthik> PhoenixP3K, read the wiki page on how to install FF 1.5 the right way
[11:25] <lina> fyrestrtr, done, lemme try it now
[11:25] <carthik> !tell PhoenixP3K about FF1.5
[11:25] <fyrestrtr> lina: no wait.
[11:25] <_jason> PhoenixP3K: just upgrade, it shouldn't affect your 1.5 install in /opt
[11:26] <scifi> carthik: i will reboot, see if it helps
[11:26] <fyrestrtr> lina: when you click on the play button in the popup, it will ask you do you want to open this file or save it. SAVE THE FILE.
[11:26] <ompaul> PwcrLinux, 5.10 is the current version
[11:26] <lina> fyrestrtr, ok...lemme try
[11:26] <fyrestrtr> lina: then open up xmms (Applications -> Sound and Video -> XMMS)
[11:26] <freeone3000> Okay. So. X. It can't find the DFP, and it can't read the V_BIOS...
[11:26] <PhoenixP3K> lets cross fingers
[11:26] <freeone3000> Fixes/explaination, anyone?
[11:27] <PwcrLinux> ompaul: Yea, I browsed the System/about it's say Ubuntu 5.10
[11:27] <_jason> PhoenixP3K: I did it about 3 hours ago by the way
[11:27] <sagalal> It's fine : I'm gonna go off and search for ppd files:)
[11:27] <sagalal> Thanks :)
[11:28] <ompaul> PwcrLinux, so you are up to date, the beta of the new system is called dapper and that has its own channel #ubuntu+1
[11:28] <PwcrLinux> _jason: did you get 4 updates? just all 4 installed and small terminal box show error or warning does it's affects on yours?
[11:28] <PhoenixP3K> _jason, yeah! It seems to still be 1.5, but does it mean that if I remove the firefox package from synaptic I'll still be ok?
[11:28] <lina> fyrestrtr, I did, now it's prompting selection:/home/lina, what should I fill in there?
[11:28] <HymnToLife> PhoenixP3K> no you won't
[11:28] <HymnToLife> if I remember well, removing the Firefox package will remove GNOME
[11:29] <PwcrLinux> ompaul: yea, I have to wait till they released comes out
[11:29] <fyrestrtr> lina: nothing, just save the file anywhere, it doesn't matter where as long as you know how to get to it.
[11:29] <fyrestrtr> lina:  then, open up xmms
[11:29] <Fysidiko> Hi. I've installed Firefox 1.5.2 from source, if I let the update thing update to FF 1.08 will it remove my compiled version?
[11:30] <HymnToLife> FF 1.0.8 ??
[11:30] <fyrestrtr> lina: once its open, click on the blue eject icon (or, when xmms window is selected, hit L)
[11:30] <HymnToLife> now that's a scoop
[11:30] <Fysidiko> Firefox 1.0.8
[11:30] <HymnToLife> I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist
[11:30] <Fysidiko> it definitely does
[11:30] <fyrestrtr> lina: are you already in xmms?
[11:30] <_jason> it does on ubuntu
[11:30] <gnomefreak> 1.5.0.2 should not update to 1.0.8 they are not same nor is it update its a downgrade
[11:31] <dilyx> Anyone who has a good expertise about wine please contact me im getting desperate for help :P
[11:31] <PhoenixP3K> HymnToLife, ok so I'll leave it there then :p
[11:31] <lina> fyrestrtr, I got a small x multimedia system with many buttons...
[11:31] <fyrestrtr> lina type /home/lina/Desktop/play.pls
[11:31] <fyrestrtr> lina: okay good.
[11:31] <gnomefreak> and the 1.0x are going out anyway that is the last release of the 1.0x series
[11:31] <scifi> carthik: i have now rebooted and still get same error :*(((
[11:31] <fyrestrtr> lina: click on it once, then hit L on your keyboard, or click the eject button on the x multimedia system.
[11:31] <strat89> just got my ubuntu cds in the mail!!! :)  and need a link  for a total noob to get started. Most importantly is how to get my dial-up connection going.
[11:31] <Fysidiko> Ubuntu needs FF 1.0.x to run though, doesn't it?
[11:31] <Fysidiko> For help files or something
[11:31] <HymnToLife> why the hell are they releasing new 1.0.x versions when 1.5 has been out for months ?
[11:31] <DarkED> im trying to install dapper flight6 with the livecd
[11:32] <fyrestrtr> lina: once the window opens up, find the play.pls file that you downloaded from live365.com
[11:32] <gnomefreak> Fysidiko: yes it has to stay on system for now
[11:32] <fyrestrtr> !wiki
[11:32] <gnomefreak> HymnToLife: its not same
[11:32] <DarkED> i run live and it gets to the point where it would start x, but i get 'no screens found'
[11:32] <Fysidiko> HymnToLife: Some people can't update, they still need security fixes
[11:32] <carthik> scifi try $sudo apt-get -f install (sudo gives it the privileges)
[11:32] <Fysidiko> gnomefreak: So can I safely let it update without it removing 1.5.2? Or should I mark that as a package not to upgrade?
[11:32] <gnomefreak> HymnToLife: i think it was a overhaul of the engine itsself that 1.5 changed
[11:32] <fyrestrtr> lina:  and click Play -- it will work (I'm listening to a radio station right now)
[11:32] <gnomefreak> Fysidiko: no you cant
[11:33] <Fysidiko> Thanks
[11:33] <gnomefreak> you have to pin firefox not to get updates
[11:33] <Fysidiko> I will
[11:33] <HymnToLife> gnomefreak> yep but I just can't get it, why people don't update
[11:33] <HymnToLife> it runs MUCH better
[11:33] <gnomefreak> HymnToLife: they are going to have to very very soon
[11:33] <fyrestrtr> HymnToLife: Linux is all about choice.
[11:33] <lina> fyrestrtr, the popup windows has directories n files list, but both don't show play.pls
[11:33] <scifi> carthik: thats the command i just ran again and still get permission denied error
[11:34] <carthik> scifi, strange, dunno what to say to you...
[11:34] <fyrestrtr> lina: under Select: /home/lina, in the text box, type /home/lina/Desktop/play.pls
[11:34] <carthik> scifi, does $sudo apt-get update give you the same error as well?
[11:34] <HymnToLife> Fysidiko> well yeah, if you want to keep your old Fiat 500 when you're offered a Ferrari, that 's your choice
[11:34] <HymnToLife> but I still can't get it :p
[11:34] <fyrestrtr> lina:  and click Play
[11:34] <gnomefreak> scifi: sudo apt-get update or whatever your trying to run
[11:35] <glimp> helo everyone
[11:35] <_jeff> how are my ubuntuers doing?
[11:35] <lina> fyrestrtr, yayyyyyyyyyyyy it's playing now..... thanks soooooooo muuuuch
[11:35] <scifi> carthik/gnome: update works fine
[11:35] <fyrestrtr> lina: ah good, cause its 12:35 AM here, and I need to get some sleep :) enjoy your station.
[11:35] <glimp> how can i browse my workgroup in windows?
[11:36] <bliss1_>  I would like to set a few custom permission rules in /etc/udev/permissions.d/udev.permissions
[11:36] <lina> fyrestrtr... sorry keeping u so late, have a nice dream... see u soon here some other time thanks again
[11:36] <carthik> scifi, hmm, well, then, what do we do now? you get the broken pacakges error, and the -f install is the only way I know of fixing it. There might be other ways to figure out a solution i don't know of
[11:36] <tusharsharma> help me
[11:36] <gnomefreak> !helpme
[11:36] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[11:36] <tusharsharma> i just d/l new firefox
[11:36] <tusharsharma> how to open
[11:37] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell tusharsharma about ff1.5
[11:37] <scifi> carthik: there is no other mp3 package i cud install?
[11:37] <tusharsharma> one error came archive not supported
[11:37] <freeone3000> Alrighty. I'll assume that... you guys have no clue?
[11:37] <HymnToLife> download it again I guess
[11:37] <gnomefreak> tusharsharma: the link in your pm will show you how to install it
[11:38] <carthik> scifi, you use breezy right? (just checking)
[11:38] <tusharsharma> but archive not supported
[11:38] <glimp> i mean my network in windows i installed samba how can i see the workgroup
[11:38] <tusharsharma> when i try to open it
[11:38] <tusharsharma> that folder
[11:38] <scifi> carthik, yes
[11:38] <gnomefreak> tusharsharma: open the link ubotu sent you in pm
[11:38] <carthik> tusharsharma, dude, thre is a right way to install firefox 1.5 and the wiki page will tell you just that better than anyone here can. so please read the link
[11:38] <gnomefreak> read it please
[11:38] <gnomefreak> :X
[11:39] <_jeff> ompaul: hey man are you there?
[11:39] <lina> freeone3000, sorry I was so occupied w/ my prob, now it's good, well, I don't have kde, only gnome
[11:39] <carthik> scifi, hmm, try $sudo apt-get --purge remove <package-name> for the package that you tried to install and then try installing it again, maybe it will work this time around
[11:39] <_jeff> kde is sexy
[11:39] <_jeff> #kubuntu
[11:39] <scifi> carthik: Wait!!! i had extra $ in front of fix broken packages command, ran it again and it works, very sorry about that
[11:39] <carthik> scifi, oh!
[11:39] <_jeff> lol
[11:39] <ompaul> _jeff, he has messaged me
[11:39] <carthik> scifi, okay now try installing whatever you were trying to install in the first place
[11:40] <bungle> kde 3.5 is nice
[11:40] <lina> yup, I read bout it, but I'm too noob to try anything, not yet
[11:40] <scifi> carthik:  but it didnt do nething, 0 upgrades, etc,.....ok will try again
[11:40] <_jeff> ompaul: ok, he just asked me to see if ur there. he misses you guys :(
[11:40] <Trent> Does anyone know the online repositories for ubuntu so I can download them on my windows machine?
[11:40] <scifi> carthik:  omg same error when installing gstreamer :*(
[11:41] <carthik> Trent, packages.ubuntu.com
[11:41] <thorre> ok, i now have downloaded the 6.06 beta live cd, is there a way to install from that cd? or is it "just" a live-cd?
[11:41] <Trent> Thanks.
[11:41] <carthik> scifi, hmm, well, try installing the gstreamer0.8-mad plugin which is all you need for mp3s
[11:41] <Fysidiko> Just live AFAIK
[11:41] <scifi> carthik: i mean the unmet dependecies error
[11:41] <carthik> scifi, or try searching using the error message on google.
[11:41] <scifi> carthik: yes thats all i am trying to install in the 1st place
[11:42] <DarkED> does anyone know how to fix the 'no screens found' error?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> !mp3
[11:42] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:42] <beerockxs> anyone knowledgeable about xcompmgr?
[11:42] <carthik> scifi, okay, well then widen the net, try install gstreamer0.8-plugins :)
[11:42] <gnomefreak> screw_laca: you need multiverse enabled iirc the site ubotu posted will tell you
[11:43] <gnomefreak> not screw_laca  i meant scifi
[11:43] <bliss1_> nickrud: hi is your office so big that you would no problems with a herd of wilderbeast running through it
[11:43] <carthik> scifi, gnomefreak is right, enable multiverse if it is not already enabled, just like you enabled universe
[11:43] <efwis> anyone here familiar with kernel panics??? I just compiled my own and now I am getting a kernel panic
[11:43] <enyc> efwis: something like.. Canniot mount root filesystem ?
[11:43] <nickrud> bliss1_, I have a sledgehammer, I'm good :)
[11:43] <efwis>  [17179569.864000] kernel panic- not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unkown-block (0,0)[1719569.864000] 
[11:43] <efwis> yeah
[11:44] <enyc> efwis: yes... it hasnt loaded the right drivers/modules to find your hardidks/whatever which has the root (/) filesystem on it
[11:44] <lina> a noob question, since there're many instructions I was taught here I want to save, do I need to do something or it will automatically saved when I close this chat? Anyone, pls answer, tia.
[11:44] <Talldave2002> can anyone help. i am trying to let a win XP box connect through my ubuntu system. the Lan connection worked when the win box was connected to the net, not I can see shared folders on the XP box from ubuntu, but XP box cannot connect to net or browse shared folders, the network connection shows "limited or no connection"
[11:44] <scifi> carthik: got a load of unment dependecies for gstreamer plugins....ok will see if i havent enabled multiverse
[11:44] <gnomefreak> lina: i would copy and paste them to text doc
[11:45] <garminar> lina, if youre in xchat, hit window -> save text
[11:45] <scifi> carthik: how do i know if universe is enabled? :P
[11:45] <gnomefreak> i dont know of a chat client that logs convos without you setting it to
[11:45] <scifi> !universe
[11:45] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:45] <lina> gnomefreak, thanks for doing it for me, then?
[11:45] <efwis> some windows clients do
[11:45] <lina> garminar, I'll try
[11:45] <bliss1_> if i kill -9 then PID will demon start at bootup again
[11:45] <gnomefreak> nope sorry got enough to do here
[11:46] <efwis> enyc: how do I figure out what could be causing the issue???
[11:46] <carthik> lina, if you are using xchat, why dont you save it as garminar said above? or set settings->preferences->logging to your desire
[11:46] <enyc> efwis: well you probably hacenvt compile in the right options in order to support your hard disk controller(s)
[11:46] <enyc> efwis: or... you havent put the correct   root=?? boot option on your kernel boot commandline
[11:46] <Fysidiko> lina: what chat program are you using?
[11:47] <phoul> Anyone know how to get audacious for ubuntu?
[11:47] <lina> carthik, I did, and seemed it worked.... it's already here... thanks a lot all
[11:47] <Trent> How should *.deb files be ran?
[11:47] <phoul> (might have spelt the app name wrong)
[11:47] <LogicalDash> I'm looking for a way to make my computer chime at me every half-hour, any suggestions?
[11:47] <|lostbyte|> What does k6 identify ?
[11:47] <pat_> Konversation logs by default to ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs
[11:47] <freeone3000> Trent: dpkg.
[11:47] <linuxgeekery> Trent, dpkg
[11:47] <|lostbyte|> like mplayer-k6 or mencoder-k6.. ?
[11:47] <carthik> phoul, there is not audacious package in ubuntu yet
[11:47] <Trent> freeone3000, any params?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> [C] hris: your arch
[11:47] <gnomefreak> damn
[11:47] <freeone3000> Trent: man dpkg for them.
[11:47] <phoul> is it possible to get one carthik
[11:47] <phoul> ?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: your arch
[11:48] <Trent> freeone3000, I meant what I should have on by default.
[11:48] <linuxgeekery> phoul, might be on the audacious website
[11:48] <efwis> it was working fine last time I did it, i put a new hdd in and had to reinstall Ubuntu.
[11:48] <phoul> like im sure somone uses it on ubuntu
[11:48] <phoul> *looks*
[11:48] <Trent> Or can I just do "dpkg *.deb"
[11:48] <lina> oh.... but I didn't get the whole session since I logged in?
[11:48] <carthik> Trent, you probably can install whatever you are trying to install from the ubuntu repositories... other debs might break your system
[11:48] <gnomefreak> if you are using a k6 kernel than you want mplayer-k6
[11:48] <|lostbyte|> gnomefreak: and k6 is ?
[11:48] <Trent> Alrioght
[11:48] <Trent> brb
[11:48] <Fysidiko> phoul: what architecture are you on?
[11:48] <freeone3000> Trent: That's what the man page is for. Look for the -i flag.
[11:48] <lina> I'm using x chat
[11:48] <carthik> phoul, search for ubuntu debs for audacious
[11:48] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: 64bit kernel
[11:48] <|lostbyte|> gnomefreak: i am on a i686 arch.
[11:48] <|lostbyte|> gnomefreak: ahh ! ok
[11:48] <gnomefreak> k7= 64bit kernel
[11:48] <Trent> freeone3000, I'm not on ubuntu, that's why i'm asking.
[11:48] <Trent> =)
[11:49] <Trent> brb
[11:49] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: than you want mplayer-686
[11:49] <scifi> carthik / gnome: i already had community maintained repos ticked and set to universe and non-free set too muiltiverse, do i also need the officially supported repos ticked??
[11:49] <carthik> gnomefreak, k6 is the amd k6 processor, which is not the 64 bit processor :)
[11:49] <|lostbyte|> gnomefreak: ok ..
[11:49] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: if thats what uname -r says
[11:49] <gnomefreak> carthik: oops
[11:49] <_jeff> !ping
[11:49] <ubotu> pong
[11:49] <gnomefreak> k7 is still 64bit right?
[11:49] <|lostbyte|> gnomefreak: but mencoder does'nt have a mencoder-686 ? only a 586 .. !!
[11:49] <Fysidiko> phoul: see http://audacious-media-player.org/Downloads
[11:49] <beasty> who is _jeff ?
[11:50] <Talldave2002> anyone help with sharing internet connection with win XP box?
[11:50] <carthik> scifi,  well, you have to have univ and multiverse - what you are saying sounds unfamiliar to me since I just edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file directly
[11:50] <Fysidiko> phoul: It has repos for it on Ubuntu
[11:50] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: i dont think mplayer-686 and mplayer-586 is gonna make a difference but im really not to sure on that
[11:50] <|lostbyte|> gnomefreak: yup that was uname says.. so why is'nt there a 686 for mencoder ?
[11:50] <_jeff> beasty: uhm
[11:50] <enyc> gnomefreak: k8 = amd64 64bit kernel...  k7 = amd-athlon (32bit!!)
[11:50] <_jeff> beasty: im a dude
[11:50] <beasty> _jeff: just looking for new friends :p
[11:50] <carthik> |lostbyte|, why dont you use the -386 version, which will work just fine for you?
[11:50] <scifi> my brains gonna explode or implode :x
[11:50] <_jeff> beasty: LOL OK
[11:50] <gnomefreak> than why do people running 64bit install the k kernels?
[11:51] <|lostbyte|> gnomefreak: Ok ! so the arch in a package identifies that the package was built on a i586 or etc.. arch, am i righ ?
[11:51] <enyc> they install the _k8_ kerel
[11:51] <gnomefreak> yes
[11:51] <beasty> _jeff: maybe you are that jeff that lost his wallet in my car
[11:51] <beasty> :p
[11:51] <enyc> the _k7_ is another matter entirely
[11:51] <_jeff> beasty: AHEM* please forgive the caps
[11:51] <beasty> np
[11:51] <gnomefreak> k8 was in breezy?
[11:51] <carthik> scifi, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to the pastebin and we'll make it not explode/implod
[11:51] <lina> gnomefreak, did u get it? I mean the chat file, I saved it myself but only got some, mostly the latest part, need the whole session since I logged in, did u manage to get it?
[11:51] <enyc> gnomefreak: yes.. breezy has amd64 release
[11:51] <|lostbyte|> carthik: i already installed 568, why is there a problem with the higher arch's ?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> lina: no how would i get it?
[11:51] <carthik> |lostbyte|, no there is not.
[11:51] <freeone3000> Hmm, odd. Anything special I have to do other than install gcc and g++ (with depends) for a working C++ build environ?
[11:52] <carthik> freeone3000, install the build-essential package
[11:52] <mlowe> ok, where do i file a bug, xterm isnt listed in update-alternatives
[11:52] <|lostbyte|> carthik: ok ! nice to know. tx
[11:52] <lina> gnomefreak... dunno, thought u might be here a while, if not I'm sorry, thx anyway
[11:52] <gnomefreak> !bugs
[11:52] <bliss1_> carthik : if i kill -9 then PID number will it kill demon for good, or will it start at reboot
[11:52] <gnomefreak> lina: i cant scroll too far
[11:52] <|lostbyte|> Ok ! so the arch in a package identifies that the package was built on a i586 or etc.. arch, am i righ ?
[11:52] <gnomefreak> !bug
[11:52] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[11:52] <freeone3000> carthik: Thanks.
[11:52] <gnomefreak> ^^^ bug reporting
[11:53] <mlowe> gnomefreak, ty
[11:53] <lina> gnomefreak... neither can I... lol
[11:53] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:53] <carthik> bliss1_, depends on whether the daemon is scheduled to start at bootup
[11:53] <phoul> okay to install from source I dont remember 100% is it.... makeconfig && make && sudo make install?
[11:53] <carthik> bliss1_, use "bum" (boot up manager) to find out if it is scheduled so
[11:53] <_jason> ubotu: tell phoul about compile
[11:53] <bliss1_> carthik: ok thanks i will check
[11:53] <Dutchy> has anyone gotten this error before while printing? Printing: Unable to connect to SAMBA host, will retry in 60 seconds...ERROR:  Connection failed with error NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED
[11:53] <carthik> phoul, read the INSTALL or README files - it varies from thing to thing
[11:53] <gnomefreak> phoul: /.configure than make than make install or better install check install than run checkinstall
[11:54] <scifi> carthik : done - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12629
[11:54] <linuxgeekery> gnomefreak, shouldn't it be ./configure?
[11:54] <Dutchy> im trying to print on a hp psc1200 connected to an XP box
[11:54] <gnomefreak> yeah that too
[11:54] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:54] <lina> well, get I will just seek 4 fyrestrtr to repeat everything in case needed... lol... tired now... bye e1
[11:54] <carthik> |lostbyte|, it identifies what arch it will work on/was built for/ was optimised for.
[11:55] <psquared89> Dutchy what kind of printer are you using (and which drivers / where from)
[11:55] <linuxgeekery> interesting. kismet slows down my lappy by about 60%
[11:55] <goonie> quick question.... can I install xgl on Breezy ?
[11:55] <gnomefreak> no goonie
[11:55] <carthik> goonie, quick answewr - probably not
[11:55] <Null_8> how do I set up xorg.conf to use just standard VGA drivers?
[11:55] <goonie> thx
[11:55] <Dutchy> hp psc1200series, hpijs driver
[11:56] <gnomefreak> xgl will not work on xorg lower than 7.0 if it does it will run like crap
[11:56] <gnomefreak> not like it doesnt now :(
[11:56] <carthik> Null_8, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:56] <|lostbyte|> carthik: ok :)
[11:56] <IceTox> What ssh server is mainly used in ubuntu, and how do I start this server in terminal?
[11:56] <Dutchy> psquared89, NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED does this error have anything to do with not being able to log on to the XP machine, or does it denote something else
[11:56] <Null_8> thanks
[11:56] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install ssh-server
[11:56] <Mathman> IceTox: openssh, like any other distro
[11:57] <scifi> carthik: u see my pastebin link?
[11:57] <IceTox> yah ok.. and is there any special command to start it in ubuntu?
[11:57] <carthik> IceTox, openssh-server to start use /etc/init.d/ssh start (maybe sshd start) install the server first, of course
[11:57] <gnomefreak> scifi: did you paste the link?
[11:57] <scifi> yes
[11:57] <scifi> carthik : done - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12629
[11:57] <PwcrLinux> cya later
[11:57] <gnomefreak> IceTox: same as everyother distro
[11:57] <malv_> any big issues with dapper drake atm?
 Guys, I've got a problem with my fresh Ubuntu install. X won't load and says that there are no display devices. Why is it doing that?
[11:58] <freeone3000> grap3: Because someone set up x wrong...
[11:58] <gnomefreak> malv_: yeah its not stable and can break tomorrow
[11:58] <_jason> malv_: nope, not really.  I'm running it now, but I did stumble a little during the install
[11:58] <scifi> gnomefreak:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12629
[11:58] <carthik> scifi, "deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse" in the file means that you have universe and multiverse enabled. so do a $sudo apt-get update
[11:58] <grap3> well how do I set it up properly? during the installation I'm only asked for a resolution
[11:58] <grap3> Nothing else graphically related
[11:58] <malv_> ok thanks.
[11:59] <Dutchy> perhaps I need to configure samba first, i figured it was configured correct because I was able to 'see' the printer on the windows pc
[11:59] <carthik> scifi, and you are all set to install packages from multiverse and universe. Now if you just added multiverse, try the $sudo apt-get -f install trick to fix probs
[11:59] <freeone3000> Btw guys, I found a bug with the Xorg installer.
[11:59] <ahmeni> grap3: you could try backing up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and running X -configure
[11:59] <gnomefreak> scifi: you need to add a # to the very first line and take the # away from the rest that start with deb and add multiverse after word universe on the deb lines
[11:59] <gnomefreak> freeone3000: define Xorg installer
[12:00] <gnomefreak> apt installs Xorg