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OdyXRiddell: kdelibs4 too ?12:05
Riddellthe packages that are there12:06
OdyXthe 4 ?12:06
Riddellyse12:06
Riddellyes12:06
Riddellalthough you don't need -dev unless you already have it installed12:06
OdyXOK12:06
OdyXWell.. I would need a lot of *-dev.. so no ...12:07
OdyX:D12:07
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RiddellOdyX: any luck?12:24
OdyXRiddell: no time yet... I have to move my laptop up to main room in shared flat and I have to share photos with Samba and it's not so easy yet...12:25
kwwiihttp://infomediastreaming.terra.com.br:8000/v4l.ogg12:34
kwwiilinux chicks speaking port.12:35
kwwiifunky12:35
kwwiis/linux chicks/linuxchicks12:35
OdyXkwwii: portugues ?12:35
kwwiiyepp12:35
kwwiiin brazil12:35
OdyXkwwii: well... hard...12:36
kwwii;-)12:38
jjesseadding screenshots to wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperBeta12:45
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kwwiinight all12:46
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jjessewhats the link to espresso screenshots that Riddell sent out?12:50
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OdyX'night all.02:08
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Hobbseehttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/4008903:05
UbugtuMalone bug 40089 in kdebase kwin "Rebuild using the patch from bugs.kde.org/124807" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  03:05
Hobbseedo we want to do this?03:05
Hobbseeand https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/40393 needs fixing, if no one's already seen to it..03:08
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UbugtuMalone bug 40393 in kdebase kcontrol "Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu9 crashes during post-installation" [Normal,Confirmed]  03:08
OdyXydOHobbsee: I now understand why we had so much pain to make an distant installation (trough IRC) of a Dapper from Breezy03:11
HobbseeOdyXydO: hehe, why so in particular?03:12
OdyXydOHobbsee: we tried for like 4 to 6 hours to make a guy named dead-man install a dapper from a new Breezy03:12
Hobbseeurgh...yep03:12
Hobbseedidnt work?03:12
OdyXydOhe had another DNS problem but could not correctyl update...03:12
OdyXydOno... it did not work...03:21
OdyXydOand he is about to re-install from CD...03:21
Hobbseethat usually works better anyway03:21
OdyXydOSo if you see Tonio_ before me, say him I was right and show him the bug... He will understand.03:21
OdyXydOHobbsee: Yeah, I hope :D03:22
OdyXydOHobbsee: by the way... forget to say him I was right... he was too.. :D03:24
Hobbseehehe03:24
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httpdssjjesse: are you there ? 05:06
jjessehttpdss: kinda05:23
jjessewhats up05:24
httpdssim taking some screenshots for the KubuntuDapperBeta05:25
httpdssi just got to the page and found lost of screenshots though :P05:25
httpdssi mean lots 05:28
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httpdssjjesse: mail sent05:43
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Mezmorning Hobbsee05:45
Mezwho isnt here05:45
Mezwhat happened to sarah05:45
aeroclownHi, Im looking for an address of Adept, the one I have http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html does not seem to come up.05:45
aeroclownhas adept been merged into the kde tree ?05:47
Mezhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adept_Package_Manager05:48
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Mezmorning sarah06:10
Hobbseehi Mez 06:11
Hobbseeyes, i looked around for who sarah was, before i answered :P06:11
Mezltns, how're you06:12
Mezlol06:12
Mezbefore you came in ....06:12
Mez<Mez> morning Hobbsee06:12
Mez<Mez> who isnt here06:12
Mez<Mez> what happened to sarah06:12
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Hobbseei'm okay :)06:13
Mezgood to hear :D06:13
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Mezat a mates, waiting for like - bus to come and stuff06:15
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Hobbseehehe06:16
Hobbseeyou could always have fun banning people :P06:16
MezI'm not like that06:17
Mezand I only have ops in #kubuntu06:17
Mezwhere theres noone to ban06:17
Hobbseeah, darn06:17
Hobbseehaha06:19
Mez;)06:19
HobbseeMez: i'm sure you can find more stuff to add to katapult or something...06:26
Meznot on my computer, so like, I cant access the katapult repos and stuff06:27
Mez:'(06:27
Mezplus I should really be heading off now anyways06:27
Mezif only I could find my lighter06:27
Hobbseelighter?  are you one of those filthy excuses for a tar factory?06:28
Mezam afraid I am - lol :D at the moment - I plan to quit very soon - but lots and lots and lots of stress.06:29
MezBuried my grandmother, had to go for a CT scan to see if I have a brain tumor and lost my gf all in one day kinda stress06:29
Hobbseeouch06:29
MezI thought you were a smoker anyways ?06:29
Hobbseenope06:30
Hobbseei sell cigarettes, but i dont smoke them..06:30
Mezah, fair enough musta had you confused with someone else06:30
Hobbseemust have06:31
Mezaha, got it06:31
Meztalk sometime soon, stay safe and stuff06:31
freeflyingTm_T:  Riddell cmake-2.4 is avaliable http://www.cmake.org/files/v2.4/cmake-2.4.0.tar.gz07:10
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kwwiimoin08:29
Hobbseehi kwwii!08:29
kwwiihi Hobbsee08:29
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kwwiitime to go to the practice for my sons' first communion08:39
kwwiibbl08:39
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verwilsthellow09:21
verwilstany news on polyester 0.9? ;)09:21
Tm_Tfreeflying: thanks09:26
verwilstoh man i love yakuake ;)09:27
Tm_Tand I hate it =)09:27
freeflyingTm_T: I'll work on it later , and re-ask UVFe 09:27
Tm_Tfreeflying: big thanks :)09:27
freeflyingTm_T: dholbach need how many packages will use cmake , so will you give any comment on that bug09:28
freeflyingTm_T: bug 3616809:29
UbugtuMalone bug 36168 in cmake "need new release for build kde4 package " [Normal,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3616809:29
Tm_Tfreeflying: well, all KDE4 needs it, but...09:31
Tm_Tdon't know if anything end-user stuff yet needs it09:32
freeflyingTm_T: the author hasn't provide Changelog in 2.4.009:32
Tm_Tfreeflying: I did comment that bug, not sure I said all needed though09:38
freeflyingTm_T: poke dholbach09:39
Tm_TI will, thanks09:39
Tm_Tnow have to clean up the house ->09:39
freeflyingTm_T:  have you seen dholbach's comment on ubuntu-motu09:54
Tm_Thmm, I doubt09:58
Tm_Tgot it10:06
freeflyingTm_T: we need wait , just wait , until edgy10:07
Tm_Tyup, not bad thing anyway10:07
Tm_Twow, bunch of problems with kde packages10:08
freeflyingTm_T: maybe Riddell can setup a repo for kde4 stuff on kubntu.org10:08
Tm_Tfreeflying: well, that will be far later, because we can't build anything useful kde4 stuff yet :)10:11
freeflyingTm_T: heh, how about kopete now 10:12
Tm_Tfreeflying: in trunk? or 0.12?10:12
freeflyingTm_T: in trunk10:12
Tm_Tfreeflying: ooh, it's beautiful...ly broken10:13
freeflying:)10:13
Tm_Tah, yes10:13
Tm_TRiddell: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/67286910:19
Tm_TRiddell: oh, addition, flood of " D000010: ensure_pathname_nonexisting `//usr/share/sounds/KDE_Error_1.ogg.dpkg-tmp' " with -D1010:21
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marseillai_anyone else have some problems with configure of the last kcontrol package ?11:05
Luremarseillai_: everybody ;-)11:09
marseillai_oki11:09
marseillai_thanks! ;)11:09
marseillai_so i assume i don't have to report ... ;)11:09
Lurebug 4039311:10
UbugtuMalone bug 40393 in kdebase kcontrol "Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu9 crashes during post-installation" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4039311:10
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Tm_Taah11:26
Tm_Tmarseillai_: look above I said to Riddell 11:26
Tm_Tweird paths, //usr etc11:27
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RiddellTm_T: works for me11:48
Riddellalthough there's plenty other reports of it being broken11:48
Tm_Tyeah11:48
Tm_TI just noticed :p11:48
Riddelloh, it's something to do with keybuk's changes11:51
Riddellat least it's not my fault :)11:51
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Tm_T:)11:54
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LureRiddell, kwwii: should we do the same for knm - bug 4052103:09
UbugtuMalone bug 40521 in network-manager network-manager-gnome "Tango Artwork" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4052103:09
kwwiiLure: it would look much better :-) 03:10
kwwiiwow, that is quite a few icons03:12
kwwiibut most of them can be made out of existing crystal icons03:12
kwwiiLure: can you add that to the ArtworkToDo page?03:13
RiddellLure: knetworkmanager already has crystal icons03:20
LureRiddell: they are smaller than other tray icons - people complain03:21
Hobbseethey are?  i guess they could be...03:21
Riddellno, it's 22x22 same as everything else03:23
Riddellyou're right the main icon as shown on the systray is from network-manager03:23
Riddellso I guess it could be crystalised, but I've never noticed it not fitting in03:23
kwwiiwe have a crystal icon that is a keyring with two keys on it already03:25
kwwiiit should be easy to replace03:25
kwwiianyway...I guess there is enough other stuff to do :-)03:26
Riddellwe don't need a keyring, we need these icons http://jimmac.musichall.cz/i.php?i=NetworkManager03:29
kwwiiwell, in the package I downloaded there is one icon that is a keyring :-)03:33
kwwiithe tar.gz from the bug03:34
kwwiihrm, I love the note on the page03:36
kwwii"this artwork is not public domain"03:36
Lurehttps://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14622403:45
kwwiihahahahahahaha03:48
kwwiiyou do not know how funny that is for me03:48
Tm_Tkwwii: you done that? 03:48
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kwwiiTm_T: a few months ago I would have been the one at suse to fix that bug03:49
Tm_Tah, indeed03:49
Tm_Tnice to read those names in comments =)03:50
kwwiiyepp03:50
Tm_Tespecially will stephenson :)03:50
Hobbseehehe03:50
Tm_TI wonder, where I have seen that name before...03:51
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Tm_Tah, bille03:51
kwwiiwill is great03:51
Tm_Tyeah, he did magic menus to us03:52
Tm_T...to Kopete I mean03:52
Tm_Tfor example03:52
Tm_Tanother notable thing is, he's always having holiday when you need him03:53
Tm_The's good in it =)03:53
kwwii:-)03:54
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uniq /whois ubugtu 04:47
uniqgah.04:47
Hobbseeuniq: a bot.04:48
uniqi know, i meant to whois myself.04:48
Hobbseeoh04:48
uniqspaces and tabcompletion :] 04:48
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freeflyingRiddell: you've remove libscim-gtkutils to scim-gtk2-immodule06:00
Riddellfreeflying: yes06:01
freeflyingRiddell: heh, minghua will ask you why 06:01
Riddellwell I e-mailed him and didn't get a response06:01
freeflyingRiddell: cmake's UVFe can not be approved now , only after dapper06:02
Riddellbah06:02
jpatrickhow do we compile kde4 then?06:03
Riddellcompile cmake first06:03
freeflyingRiddell: maybe you'd setup a repo for kde4  stuff06:03
freeflyingjpatrick: cmake-2.4 is out , need it ?06:04
jpatricknope06:05
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jpatrickah06:08
jpatrickkdebase-dev's fault06:08
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jpatrickdid he get fired? :/06:46
httpdsshahaha, think not ... maybe a blackout :P06:48
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jpatrickRiddell: ah, you're back07:35
Tm_TRiddell: ping07:38
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MrFaberhi all08:51
MrFabermaybe a stupid question but I heard that a display component should be updated08:51
MrFaberand I had problems with .kde/share/config/displayconfigrc file08:52
MrFaberkde shows always 1024x768 instead of 1366x768 until removing this file08:52
MrFaberIf I set the resolution to my values in this file it works but the font was very small so I just removed the file08:53
MrFaberNow after today update the font is very small again08:53
MrFaberand there is no displayconfigfile08:53
MrFaberAnyonw knows about a possible update which could result in this? :)08:54
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MrFaberChangeing font size is a big mess since many apps ignores it or have their own font options08:54
MrFaberAnd I mean very, very small font. (around 4 mm size on a 11,1 tft)09:00
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Tm_Tlooks like someone started weekend already :p09:15
raphinkhehe :)09:16
raphinkTm_T: well he deserves it :)09:16
raphinkhmmm09:17
raphinkthe konsole transparency bug seems to be ubuntu-specifici09:17
raphinkeven sid doesn't have it09:17
Tm_Traphink: true, so true :)09:17
Tm_Traphink: what bug?09:18
raphinkhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/3492409:18
raphinkthis one09:18
UbugtuMalone bug 34924 in kdebase konsole "Can't switch to transparent themes" [Normal,Confirmed]  09:18
Tm_Ter?09:18
raphinkit's not a big big one09:18
raphinkbut still09:18
raphinkit's annoying09:18
Tm_Tit is, if it's true09:18
raphinkand I've been having it for quite a long time09:18
raphinkTm_T: I reported it 09:18
raphink:p09:18
raphinkand I have it on 3 machines09:18
raphinkon breezy and dapper, powerpc and k709:18
raphinkso I didn't make it up :p09:18
Tm_Twell09:19
raphinkit works fine on sid though09:19
raphinkso I believe it's a problem with the ubuntu package09:19
Tm_TI read it but I'm using translucent schema in 80% of my Konsole sessions09:20
raphinkhow many tabs do you have ?09:20
Tm_Tfrom one to ...eight?09:20
raphinkhmm ok09:20
raphinkcan you try to switch to another default transparent theme ?09:21
Tm_TI do it daily :p09:21
raphinkhmm09:21
raphinkup-to-date dapper?09:22
Tm_T...is there other choices?09:22
Tm_T;--P09:22
raphinkhehe09:22
raphinkthis is weird09:22
raphink...09:22
Tm_Twell, I don't have it09:23
Tm_Tnever had it09:23
OdyXraphink: I don't even here... It's not "transparent" (as it is background showed and not the windows "below" Konsole), but it works.09:25
raphinkyes OdyX09:25
raphinkok09:25
raphinkI wonder if it's not a dependency that I lack09:25
raphinkand that you would have installed by chance09:26
raphinkbooth09:26
raphinkboth09:26
OdyXraphink: I hope you know the commands? 09:26
OdyX:D09:26
raphinkcause really the 3 machines I tested here fail to load transparent themes09:26
OdyXYOU are maybe the cause :D09:26
raphinkOdyX: haha09:26
raphink:)09:26
raphinkanyone could try to install konsole in a minimal chroot to see if it works ?09:26
raphinkI'll try here09:27
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jpatrickdamn09:29
raphinkhehe09:29
raphinkdon't swear like this :p09:29
jpatrickI forgot my chroot's root password09:29
raphinkhaha09:29
raphink;)09:29
raphinkyou didn't set a sudo in your chroot?09:29
jpatricki did09:30
raphinkhmm09:30
raphinkwell just copy your /etc/passwd to your chroot09:30
raphink:p09:30
raphinkfrom outside09:30
jpatricksudo chroot /var/chroot/ fixes it09:30
raphinkah09:30
raphinkbut it's not nice09:31
raphinkah09:31
jpatrickjust did `passwd` after that09:31
raphinkit works in a chroot ....09:31
raphinkI don't get it09:31
raphinkmust be some settings in my profile09:32
raphinkI have to try with another user09:32
raphinkhmm09:32
raphinkit's my profile that's broken09:32
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Riddellllmy server is acting strange tonight, I don't have a good irc connection incase anyone is wanting to get hold of me09:38
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jeroenvrp2hi folks09:39
jeroenvrp2when I came back this evenning, my whole system was frozen09:40
jeroenvrp2it is verrrrry slow09:40
jeroenvrp2locked up09:40
jpatrickthat's what you get for putting it into the freezer09:40
jeroenvrp2I have found the output in /var/log/messages09:40
jeroenvrp2here its is: 09:40
jeroenvrp2http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/67309:41
jeroenvrp2corr.: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/67393609:41
OdyXApr 21 20:44:45 mykubuntu kernel: [4563060.328000]  Free swap:            0kB09:42
OdyXouh...09:42
jpatrickouch09:42
OdyXjeroenvrp2: I think you should try to check your RAM...09:43
jeroenvrp2mmm oh no09:43
OdyXjeroenvrp2: I dunno... But if you fill your swap... 09:44
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jeroenvrp2OdyX: yes, strange - never had this before09:44
OdyXjeroenvrp2: try to use memtest on boot...09:46
jeroenvrp2OdyX: at #ubuntu-devel they say its brltty with a memoryleak09:47
OdyXmeans ?09:47
jeroenvrp2!brltty09:48
OdyXjeroenvrp2: you need braille ?09:49
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jeroenvrp2OdyX: thats what I? see yes09:50
jeroenvrp2I mean, no I dont need it09:50
OdyXjeroenvrp2: so remove it.. :D09:50
jeroenvrp2and I think those ubuntu-guys try to piss me off09:50
jeroenvrp2no its not installed09:50
OdyXjeroenvrp2: seems yep...09:50
OdyXjeroenvrp2: check your RAM (entry in Grub) and come back09:51
OdyXthough, this is not exactly *-devel stuff :D09:51
jeroenvrp2yeah I know09:51
jeroenvrp2allthough thats not sure09:52
jeroenvrp2cause maybe its a bug09:52
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OdyXjeroenvrp2: try to find "bug-friends" :D09:52
OdyXjeroenvrp2: as I say... try to check your RAM... It takes 10 minutes...09:53
jeroenvrp2OdyX: yeah I have to reboot than again09:53
jeroenvrp2I will after I do a last apt-update09:53
OdyXjeroenvrp2: good luck09:53
jeroenvrp2ths09:53
jeroenvrp2x09:53
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raphinkt!09:54
raphink:09:54
OdyXydOraphink: ?09:54
raphinkTm_T, OdyXydO : did you both upgrade from breezy ?09:54
raphinkor do you have fresh dapper installs?09:54
jeroenvrp2whats the problem with those ubuntu guys anyway09:55
OdyXydOraphink: fresh from espresso09:55
raphinkOdyXydO: what version ?09:55
OdyXydOraphink: flight 6.09:55
hungerRiddell: What is wrong with qparted? You said I should take a look at it when I find some time.09:55
raphinkok09:55
raphinkTm_T: ?09:55
Tm_Traphink: this was original rc of hoary09:55
raphinkTm_T: how did you install dapper?09:55
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Tm_Traphink: as I said, this was a year ago rc of hoary :p09:56
Tm_Traphink: then breezy, then dapper...09:56
Tm_Tbeen dapper now about 6 months09:56
raphinkTm_T: so you upgraded your both09:56
raphinkbox09:56
raphinksorry09:56
raphinkok09:56
Tm_Tyes09:56
raphinkthanks09:56
raphinkseems only DF5 installs fail then09:56
raphinkfor some reason09:56
raphinkanyone installed dapper with DF5 here?09:56
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tvoraphink, I'm on dapper flight 5 kubuntu install10:01
raphinktvo: do you have working transparency in konsole?10:01
tvolet me try10:01
tvoraphink, yes for a freshly opened console10:02
tvono for a console which was still open from session save (has been open for months)10:02
raphinktvo: what if you add tabs or try to switch?10:02
raphinkhehe10:02
tvohm10:02
tvoadditional tabs are plain black10:03
raphinkok10:03
tvoswitching doesn't seem to matter10:03
raphinkand if you switch to light transparent you get grey, right?10:03
tvofirst tab is translucent, rest is black10:03
raphinkright10:03
raphinktvo: soo you can confirm what I describe here ? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/3492410:03
UbugtuMalone bug 34924 in kdebase konsole "Can't switch to transparent themes" [Normal,Confirmed]  10:03
tvoyes with light transparent 2nd-Nth tab are grey10:05
tvoonly the first one is translucent again10:05
raphinkok10:05
raphinkI'll try to reinstall one of my boxes with beta10:06
tvoadded note10:07
raphinktty10:07
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jjesse_awayhmmm anyone else having problems with knetworkmanager?10:57
Lurejjesse_away: what kind of problems?10:57
jjesse_awaynetworkmanager not running since last restart :(10:57
Lurenot really - working fine for me10:58
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Luretried to start from terminal and see the output10:58
Lures/tried/try/10:58
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OdyXanybody able to have flash videos ?11:35

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