[12:05] <OdyX> Riddell: kdelibs4 too ?
[12:06] <Riddell> the packages that are there
[12:06] <OdyX> the 4 ?
[12:06] <Riddell> yse
[12:06] <Riddell> yes
[12:06] <Riddell> although you don't need -dev unless you already have it installed
[12:06] <OdyX> OK
[12:07] <OdyX> Well.. I would need a lot of *-dev.. so no ...
[12:07] <OdyX> :D
[12:24] <Riddell> OdyX: any luck?
[12:25] <OdyX> Riddell: no time yet... I have to move my laptop up to main room in shared flat and I have to share photos with Samba and it's not so easy yet...
[12:34] <kwwii> http://infomediastreaming.terra.com.br:8000/v4l.ogg
[12:35] <kwwii> linux chicks speaking port.
[12:35] <kwwii> funky
[12:35] <kwwii> s/linux chicks/linuxchicks
[12:35] <OdyX> kwwii: portugues ?
[12:35] <kwwii> yepp
[12:35] <kwwii> in brazil
[12:36] <OdyX> kwwii: well... hard...
[12:38] <kwwii> ;-)
[12:45] <jjesse> adding screenshots to wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperBeta
[12:46] <kwwii> night all
[12:50] <jjesse> whats the link to espresso screenshots that Riddell sent out?
[02:08] <OdyX> 'night all.
[03:05] <Hobbsee> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/40089
[03:05] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 40089 in kdebase kwin "Rebuild using the patch from bugs.kde.org/124807" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  
[03:05] <Hobbsee> do we want to do this?
[03:08] <Hobbsee> and https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/40393 needs fixing, if no one's already seen to it..
[03:08] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 40393 in kdebase kcontrol "Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu9 crashes during post-installation" [Normal,Confirmed]  
[03:11] <OdyXydO> Hobbsee: I now understand why we had so much pain to make an distant installation (trough IRC) of a Dapper from Breezy
[03:12] <Hobbsee> OdyXydO: hehe, why so in particular?
[03:12] <OdyXydO> Hobbsee: we tried for like 4 to 6 hours to make a guy named dead-man install a dapper from a new Breezy
[03:12] <Hobbsee> urgh...yep
[03:12] <Hobbsee> didnt work?
[03:12] <OdyXydO> he had another DNS problem but could not correctyl update...
[03:21] <OdyXydO> no... it did not work...
[03:21] <OdyXydO> and he is about to re-install from CD...
[03:21] <Hobbsee> that usually works better anyway
[03:21] <OdyXydO> So if you see Tonio_ before me, say him I was right and show him the bug... He will understand.
[03:22] <OdyXydO> Hobbsee: Yeah, I hope :D
[03:24] <OdyXydO> Hobbsee: by the way... forget to say him I was right... he was too.. :D
[03:24] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:06] <httpdss> jjesse: are you there ? 
[05:23] <jjesse> httpdss: kinda
[05:24] <jjesse> whats up
[05:25] <httpdss> im taking some screenshots for the KubuntuDapperBeta
[05:25] <httpdss> i just got to the page and found lost of screenshots though :P
[05:28] <httpdss> i mean lots 
[05:43] <httpdss> jjesse: mail sent
[05:45] <Mez> morning Hobbsee
[05:45] <Mez> who isnt here
[05:45] <Mez> what happened to sarah
[05:45] <aeroclown> Hi, Im looking for an address of Adept, the one I have http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html does not seem to come up.
[05:47] <aeroclown> has adept been merged into the kde tree ?
[05:48] <Mez> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adept_Package_Manager
[06:10] <Mez> morning sarah
[06:11] <Hobbsee> hi Mez 
[06:11] <Hobbsee> yes, i looked around for who sarah was, before i answered :P
[06:12] <Mez> ltns, how're you
[06:12] <Mez> lol
[06:12] <Mez> before you came in ....
 morning Hobbsee
 who isnt here
 what happened to sarah
[06:13] <Hobbsee> i'm okay :)
[06:13] <Mez> good to hear :D
[06:15] <Mez> at a mates, waiting for like - bus to come and stuff
[06:16] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:16] <Hobbsee> you could always have fun banning people :P
[06:17] <Mez> I'm not like that
[06:17] <Mez> and I only have ops in #kubuntu
[06:17] <Mez> where theres noone to ban
[06:17] <Hobbsee> ah, darn
[06:19] <Hobbsee> haha
[06:19] <Mez> ;)
[06:26] <Hobbsee> Mez: i'm sure you can find more stuff to add to katapult or something...
[06:27] <Mez> not on my computer, so like, I cant access the katapult repos and stuff
[06:27] <Mez> :'(
[06:27] <Mez> plus I should really be heading off now anyways
[06:27] <Mez> if only I could find my lighter
[06:28] <Hobbsee> lighter?  are you one of those filthy excuses for a tar factory?
[06:29] <Mez> am afraid I am - lol :D at the moment - I plan to quit very soon - but lots and lots and lots of stress.
[06:29] <Mez> Buried my grandmother, had to go for a CT scan to see if I have a brain tumor and lost my gf all in one day kinda stress
[06:29] <Hobbsee> ouch
[06:29] <Mez> I thought you were a smoker anyways ?
[06:30] <Hobbsee> nope
[06:30] <Hobbsee> i sell cigarettes, but i dont smoke them..
[06:30] <Mez> ah, fair enough musta had you confused with someone else
[06:31] <Hobbsee> must have
[06:31] <Mez> aha, got it
[06:31] <Mez> talk sometime soon, stay safe and stuff
[07:10] <freeflying> Tm_T:  Riddell cmake-2.4 is avaliable http://www.cmake.org/files/v2.4/cmake-2.4.0.tar.gz
[08:29] <kwwii> moin
[08:29] <Hobbsee> hi kwwii!
[08:29] <kwwii> hi Hobbsee
[08:39] <kwwii> time to go to the practice for my sons' first communion
[08:39] <kwwii> bbl
[09:21] <verwilst> hellow
[09:21] <verwilst> any news on polyester 0.9? ;)
[09:26] <Tm_T> freeflying: thanks
[09:27] <verwilst> oh man i love yakuake ;)
[09:27] <Tm_T> and I hate it =)
[09:27] <freeflying> Tm_T: I'll work on it later , and re-ask UVFe 
[09:27] <Tm_T> freeflying: big thanks :)
[09:28] <freeflying> Tm_T: dholbach need how many packages will use cmake , so will you give any comment on that bug
[09:29] <freeflying> Tm_T: bug 36168
[09:29] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 36168 in cmake "need new release for build kde4 package " [Normal,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/36168
[09:31] <Tm_T> freeflying: well, all KDE4 needs it, but...
[09:32] <Tm_T> don't know if anything end-user stuff yet needs it
[09:32] <freeflying> Tm_T: the author hasn't provide Changelog in 2.4.0
[09:38] <Tm_T> freeflying: I did comment that bug, not sure I said all needed though
[09:39] <freeflying> Tm_T: poke dholbach
[09:39] <Tm_T> I will, thanks
[09:39] <Tm_T> now have to clean up the house ->
[09:54] <freeflying> Tm_T:  have you seen dholbach's comment on ubuntu-motu
[09:58] <Tm_T> hmm, I doubt
[10:06] <Tm_T> got it
[10:07] <freeflying> Tm_T: we need wait , just wait , until edgy
[10:07] <Tm_T> yup, not bad thing anyway
[10:08] <Tm_T> wow, bunch of problems with kde packages
[10:08] <freeflying> Tm_T: maybe Riddell can setup a repo for kde4 stuff on kubntu.org
[10:11] <Tm_T> freeflying: well, that will be far later, because we can't build anything useful kde4 stuff yet :)
[10:12] <freeflying> Tm_T: heh, how about kopete now 
[10:12] <Tm_T> freeflying: in trunk? or 0.12?
[10:12] <freeflying> Tm_T: in trunk
[10:13] <Tm_T> freeflying: ooh, it's beautiful...ly broken
[10:13] <freeflying> :)
[10:13] <Tm_T> ah, yes
[10:19] <Tm_T> Riddell: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/672869
[10:21] <Tm_T> Riddell: oh, addition, flood of " D000010: ensure_pathname_nonexisting `//usr/share/sounds/KDE_Error_1.ogg.dpkg-tmp' " with -D10
[11:05] <marseillai_> anyone else have some problems with configure of the last kcontrol package ?
[11:09] <Lure> marseillai_: everybody ;-)
[11:09] <marseillai_> oki
[11:09] <marseillai_> thanks! ;)
[11:09] <marseillai_> so i assume i don't have to report ... ;)
[11:10] <Lure> bug 40393
[11:10] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 40393 in kdebase kcontrol "Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu9 crashes during post-installation" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/40393
[11:26] <Tm_T> aah
[11:26] <Tm_T> marseillai_: look above I said to Riddell 
[11:27] <Tm_T> weird paths, //usr etc
[11:48] <Riddell> Tm_T: works for me
[11:48] <Riddell> although there's plenty other reports of it being broken
[11:48] <Tm_T> yeah
[11:48] <Tm_T> I just noticed :p
[11:51] <Riddell> oh, it's something to do with keybuk's changes
[11:51] <Riddell> at least it's not my fault :)
[11:54] <Tm_T> :)
[03:09] <Lure> Riddell, kwwii: should we do the same for knm - bug 40521
[03:09] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 40521 in network-manager network-manager-gnome "Tango Artwork" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/40521
[03:10] <kwwii> Lure: it would look much better :-) 
[03:12] <kwwii> wow, that is quite a few icons
[03:12] <kwwii> but most of them can be made out of existing crystal icons
[03:13] <kwwii> Lure: can you add that to the ArtworkToDo page?
[03:20] <Riddell> Lure: knetworkmanager already has crystal icons
[03:21] <Lure> Riddell: they are smaller than other tray icons - people complain
[03:21] <Hobbsee> they are?  i guess they could be...
[03:23] <Riddell> no, it's 22x22 same as everything else
[03:23] <Riddell> you're right the main icon as shown on the systray is from network-manager
[03:23] <Riddell> so I guess it could be crystalised, but I've never noticed it not fitting in
[03:25] <kwwii> we have a crystal icon that is a keyring with two keys on it already
[03:25] <kwwii> it should be easy to replace
[03:26] <kwwii> anyway...I guess there is enough other stuff to do :-)
[03:29] <Riddell> we don't need a keyring, we need these icons http://jimmac.musichall.cz/i.php?i=NetworkManager
[03:33] <kwwii> well, in the package I downloaded there is one icon that is a keyring :-)
[03:34] <kwwii> the tar.gz from the bug
[03:36] <kwwii> hrm, I love the note on the page
[03:36] <kwwii> "this artwork is not public domain"
[03:45] <Lure> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=146224
[03:48] <kwwii> hahahahahahaha
[03:48] <kwwii> you do not know how funny that is for me
[03:48] <Tm_T> kwwii: you done that? 
[03:49] <kwwii> Tm_T: a few months ago I would have been the one at suse to fix that bug
[03:49] <Tm_T> ah, indeed
[03:50] <Tm_T> nice to read those names in comments =)
[03:50] <kwwii> yepp
[03:50] <Tm_T> especially will stephenson :)
[03:50] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:51] <Tm_T> I wonder, where I have seen that name before...
[03:51] <Tm_T> ah, bille
[03:51] <kwwii> will is great
[03:52] <Tm_T> yeah, he did magic menus to us
[03:52] <Tm_T> ...to Kopete I mean
[03:52] <Tm_T> for example
[03:53] <Tm_T> another notable thing is, he's always having holiday when you need him
[03:53] <Tm_T> he's good in it =)
[03:54] <kwwii> :-)
[04:47] <uniq>  /whois ubugtu 
[04:47] <uniq> gah.
[04:48] <Hobbsee> uniq: a bot.
[04:48] <uniq> i know, i meant to whois myself.
[04:48] <Hobbsee> oh
[04:48] <uniq> spaces and tabcompletion :] 
[06:00] <freeflying> Riddell: you've remove libscim-gtkutils to scim-gtk2-immodule
[06:01] <Riddell> freeflying: yes
[06:01] <freeflying> Riddell: heh, minghua will ask you why 
[06:01] <Riddell> well I e-mailed him and didn't get a response
[06:02] <freeflying> Riddell: cmake's UVFe can not be approved now , only after dapper
[06:02] <Riddell> bah
[06:03] <jpatrick> how do we compile kde4 then?
[06:03] <Riddell> compile cmake first
[06:03] <freeflying> Riddell: maybe you'd setup a repo for kde4  stuff
[06:04] <freeflying> jpatrick: cmake-2.4 is out , need it ?
[06:05] <jpatrick> nope
[06:08] <jpatrick> ah
[06:08] <jpatrick> kdebase-dev's fault
[06:46] <jpatrick> did he get fired? :/
[06:48] <httpdss> hahaha, think not ... maybe a blackout :P
[07:35] <jpatrick> Riddell: ah, you're back
[07:38] <Tm_T> Riddell: ping
[08:51] <MrFaber> hi all
[08:51] <MrFaber> maybe a stupid question but I heard that a display component should be updated
[08:52] <MrFaber> and I had problems with .kde/share/config/displayconfigrc file
[08:52] <MrFaber> kde shows always 1024x768 instead of 1366x768 until removing this file
[08:53] <MrFaber> If I set the resolution to my values in this file it works but the font was very small so I just removed the file
[08:53] <MrFaber> Now after today update the font is very small again
[08:53] <MrFaber> and there is no displayconfigfile
[08:54] <MrFaber> Anyonw knows about a possible update which could result in this? :)
[08:54] <MrFaber> Changeing font size is a big mess since many apps ignores it or have their own font options
[09:00] <MrFaber> And I mean very, very small font. (around 4 mm size on a 11,1 tft)
[09:15] <Tm_T> looks like someone started weekend already :p
[09:16] <raphink> hehe :)
[09:16] <raphink> Tm_T: well he deserves it :)
[09:17] <raphink> hmmm
[09:17] <raphink> the konsole transparency bug seems to be ubuntu-specifici
[09:17] <raphink> even sid doesn't have it
[09:17] <Tm_T> raphink: true, so true :)
[09:18] <Tm_T> raphink: what bug?
[09:18] <raphink> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/34924
[09:18] <raphink> this one
[09:18] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 34924 in kdebase konsole "Can't switch to transparent themes" [Normal,Confirmed]  
[09:18] <Tm_T> er?
[09:18] <raphink> it's not a big big one
[09:18] <raphink> but still
[09:18] <raphink> it's annoying
[09:18] <Tm_T> it is, if it's true
[09:18] <raphink> and I've been having it for quite a long time
[09:18] <raphink> Tm_T: I reported it 
[09:18] <raphink> :p
[09:18] <raphink> and I have it on 3 machines
[09:18] <raphink> on breezy and dapper, powerpc and k7
[09:18] <raphink> so I didn't make it up :p
[09:19] <Tm_T> well
[09:19] <raphink> it works fine on sid though
[09:19] <raphink> so I believe it's a problem with the ubuntu package
[09:20] <Tm_T> I read it but I'm using translucent schema in 80% of my Konsole sessions
[09:20] <raphink> how many tabs do you have ?
[09:20] <Tm_T> from one to ...eight?
[09:20] <raphink> hmm ok
[09:21] <raphink> can you try to switch to another default transparent theme ?
[09:21] <Tm_T> I do it daily :p
[09:21] <raphink> hmm
[09:22] <raphink> up-to-date dapper?
[09:22] <Tm_T> ...is there other choices?
[09:22] <Tm_T> ;--P
[09:22] <raphink> hehe
[09:22] <raphink> this is weird
[09:22] <raphink> ...
[09:23] <Tm_T> well, I don't have it
[09:23] <Tm_T> never had it
[09:25] <OdyX> raphink: I don't even here... It's not "transparent" (as it is background showed and not the windows "below" Konsole), but it works.
[09:25] <raphink> yes OdyX
[09:25] <raphink> ok
[09:25] <raphink> I wonder if it's not a dependency that I lack
[09:26] <raphink> and that you would have installed by chance
[09:26] <raphink> booth
[09:26] <raphink> both
[09:26] <OdyX> raphink: I hope you know the commands? 
[09:26] <OdyX> :D
[09:26] <raphink> cause really the 3 machines I tested here fail to load transparent themes
[09:26] <OdyX> YOU are maybe the cause :D
[09:26] <raphink> OdyX: haha
[09:26] <raphink> :)
[09:26] <raphink> anyone could try to install konsole in a minimal chroot to see if it works ?
[09:27] <raphink> I'll try here
[09:29] <jpatrick> damn
[09:29] <raphink> hehe
[09:29] <raphink> don't swear like this :p
[09:29] <jpatrick> I forgot my chroot's root password
[09:29] <raphink> haha
[09:29] <raphink> ;)
[09:29] <raphink> you didn't set a sudo in your chroot?
[09:30] <jpatrick> i did
[09:30] <raphink> hmm
[09:30] <raphink> well just copy your /etc/passwd to your chroot
[09:30] <raphink> :p
[09:30] <raphink> from outside
[09:30] <jpatrick> sudo chroot /var/chroot/ fixes it
[09:30] <raphink> ah
[09:31] <raphink> but it's not nice
[09:31] <raphink> ah
[09:31] <jpatrick> just did `passwd` after that
[09:31] <raphink> it works in a chroot ....
[09:31] <raphink> I don't get it
[09:32] <raphink> must be some settings in my profile
[09:32] <raphink> I have to try with another user
[09:32] <raphink> hmm
[09:32] <raphink> it's my profile that's broken
[09:38] <Riddellll> my server is acting strange tonight, I don't have a good irc connection incase anyone is wanting to get hold of me
[09:39] <jeroenvrp2> hi folks
[09:40] <jeroenvrp2> when I came back this evenning, my whole system was frozen
[09:40] <jeroenvrp2> it is verrrrry slow
[09:40] <jeroenvrp2> locked up
[09:40] <jpatrick> that's what you get for putting it into the freezer
[09:40] <jeroenvrp2> I have found the output in /var/log/messages
[09:40] <jeroenvrp2> here its is: 
[09:41] <jeroenvrp2> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/673
[09:41] <jeroenvrp2> corr.: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/673936
[09:42] <OdyX> Apr 21 20:44:45 mykubuntu kernel: [4563060.328000]  Free swap:            0kB
[09:42] <OdyX> ouh...
[09:42] <jpatrick> ouch
[09:43] <OdyX> jeroenvrp2: I think you should try to check your RAM...
[09:43] <jeroenvrp2> mmm oh no
[09:44] <OdyX> jeroenvrp2: I dunno... But if you fill your swap... 
[09:44] <jeroenvrp2> OdyX: yes, strange - never had this before
[09:46] <OdyX> jeroenvrp2: try to use memtest on boot...
[09:47] <jeroenvrp2> OdyX: at #ubuntu-devel they say its brltty with a memoryleak
[09:47] <OdyX> means ?
[09:48] <jeroenvrp2> !brltty
[09:49] <OdyX> jeroenvrp2: you need braille ?
[09:50] <jeroenvrp2> OdyX: thats what I? see yes
[09:50] <jeroenvrp2> I mean, no I dont need it
[09:50] <OdyX> jeroenvrp2: so remove it.. :D
[09:50] <jeroenvrp2> and I think those ubuntu-guys try to piss me off
[09:50] <jeroenvrp2> no its not installed
[09:50] <OdyX> jeroenvrp2: seems yep...
[09:51] <OdyX> jeroenvrp2: check your RAM (entry in Grub) and come back
[09:51] <OdyX> though, this is not exactly *-devel stuff :D
[09:51] <jeroenvrp2> yeah I know
[09:52] <jeroenvrp2> allthough thats not sure
[09:52] <jeroenvrp2> cause maybe its a bug
[09:52] <OdyX> jeroenvrp2: try to find "bug-friends" :D
[09:53] <OdyX> jeroenvrp2: as I say... try to check your RAM... It takes 10 minutes...
[09:53] <jeroenvrp2> OdyX: yeah I have to reboot than again
[09:53] <jeroenvrp2> I will after I do a last apt-update
[09:53] <OdyX> jeroenvrp2: good luck
[09:53] <jeroenvrp2> ths
[09:53] <jeroenvrp2> x
[09:54] <raphink> t!
[09:54] <raphink> :
[09:54] <OdyXydO> raphink: ?
[09:54] <raphink> Tm_T, OdyXydO : did you both upgrade from breezy ?
[09:54] <raphink> or do you have fresh dapper installs?
[09:55] <jeroenvrp2> whats the problem with those ubuntu guys anyway
[09:55] <OdyXydO> raphink: fresh from espresso
[09:55] <raphink> OdyXydO: what version ?
[09:55] <OdyXydO> raphink: flight 6.
[09:55] <hunger> Riddell: What is wrong with qparted? You said I should take a look at it when I find some time.
[09:55] <raphink> ok
[09:55] <raphink> Tm_T: ?
[09:55] <Tm_T> raphink: this was original rc of hoary
[09:55] <raphink> Tm_T: how did you install dapper?
[09:56] <Tm_T> raphink: as I said, this was a year ago rc of hoary :p
[09:56] <Tm_T> raphink: then breezy, then dapper...
[09:56] <Tm_T> been dapper now about 6 months
[09:56] <raphink> Tm_T: so you upgraded your both
[09:56] <raphink> box
[09:56] <raphink> sorry
[09:56] <raphink> ok
[09:56] <Tm_T> yes
[09:56] <raphink> thanks
[09:56] <raphink> seems only DF5 installs fail then
[09:56] <raphink> for some reason
[09:56] <raphink> anyone installed dapper with DF5 here?
[10:01] <tvo> raphink, I'm on dapper flight 5 kubuntu install
[10:01] <raphink> tvo: do you have working transparency in konsole?
[10:01] <tvo> let me try
[10:02] <tvo> raphink, yes for a freshly opened console
[10:02] <tvo> no for a console which was still open from session save (has been open for months)
[10:02] <raphink> tvo: what if you add tabs or try to switch?
[10:02] <raphink> hehe
[10:02] <tvo> hm
[10:03] <tvo> additional tabs are plain black
[10:03] <raphink> ok
[10:03] <tvo> switching doesn't seem to matter
[10:03] <raphink> and if you switch to light transparent you get grey, right?
[10:03] <tvo> first tab is translucent, rest is black
[10:03] <raphink> right
[10:03] <raphink> tvo: soo you can confirm what I describe here ? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/34924
[10:03] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 34924 in kdebase konsole "Can't switch to transparent themes" [Normal,Confirmed]  
[10:05] <tvo> yes with light transparent 2nd-Nth tab are grey
[10:05] <tvo> only the first one is translucent again
[10:05] <raphink> ok
[10:06] <raphink> I'll try to reinstall one of my boxes with beta
[10:07] <tvo> added note
[10:07] <raphink> tty
[10:57] <jjesse_away> hmmm anyone else having problems with knetworkmanager?
[10:57] <Lure> jjesse_away: what kind of problems?
[10:57] <jjesse_away> networkmanager not running since last restart :(
[10:58] <Lure> not really - working fine for me
[10:58] <Lure> tried to start from terminal and see the output
[10:58] <Lure> s/tried/try/
[11:35] <OdyX> anybody able to have flash videos ?