[12:04] <Riddell> hussam: unless you want to be a guinea pig
[12:05] <ZeLL91> ok _jeff
[12:05] <ZeLL91> do you know anyone named tritium_
[12:05] <ZeLL91> ?
[12:05] <_jeff> yeah i say that guy here yesterday
[12:05] <_jeff> why?
[12:05] <ZeLL91> he banned me
[12:06] <ZeLL91> = (
[12:06] <_jeff> aw what a rip
[12:06] <ZeLL91> yeah
[12:06] <ZeLL91> i have to msg him
[12:06] <_jeff> if i see him again ill say something
[12:06] <ZeLL91> tritium_
[12:06] <ZeLL91> god
[12:06] <_jeff> what did the almighty ompaul say?
[12:06] <ZeLL91> if only i knew how to hack
[12:06] <ZeLL91> ahhh
[12:06] <ZeLL91> lol
[12:06] <_jeff> lol
[12:06] <crimsun> michael does not ban for senseless reasons.
[12:07] <crimsun> moreover, this is NOT the channel to whine about it
[12:07] <_jeff> are you a mod?
[12:07] <ZeLL91> me?
[12:07] <crimsun> does it matter, _jeff?
[12:07] <tmei> whats gparted?
[12:07] <ZeLL91> what do you mean a mod?
[12:07] <_jeff> im just wondering crimsun
[12:07] <HymnToLife> right you are crimsun, banning for senseles reasons is Seveas' job :p
[12:07] <_jeff> its for my research if you must know
[12:07] <ZeLL91> oh
[12:07] <ZeLL91> nevermind then
[12:08] <HymnToLife> *hope Seveas isn't here with another nick*
[12:08] <ZeLL91> = )
[12:08] <hussam> Riddell: then I'll get the live cd and try installing from in on an empty partition.
[12:08] <_jeff> lol
[12:08] <ZeLL91> tritium_ banned me saying "Are you kidding me???"
[12:08] <_jeff> if nobody is talking and nobody really needs help then who cares if we talk about something else
[12:08] <Riddell> hussam: good luck and mind and take a backup
[12:09] <crimsun> _jeff: we're not going to discuss that, thanks.
[12:09] <hussam> Riddell: ok thanks
[12:09] <ZeLL91> is there a channel for hackers?
[12:09] <bipolar> Does anyone know a way to get amarok to play video podcasts? Right now it just plays the audio from them, and I can play the video by draging the episode into kaffine.
[12:09] <crimsun> ZeLL91: michael did not enforce the ban (at least not the version that I see)
[12:09] <bipolar> oh, I'm on dapper.
[12:09] <Seveas> HymnToLife, I'm here as me....
[12:10] <Seveas> HymnToLife, and id you have complaints, just tell me instead of badmouthing
[12:10] <temi> hm
[12:10] <ZeLL91> hm
[12:10] <temi> hm hm?
[12:10] <ZeLL91> hm hm hm?
[12:10] <Seveas> hm hm hm hm
[12:10] <temi> ho ho!
[12:10] <_jeff> lol
[12:10] <_jeff> !
[12:10] <bipolar> hm^36
[12:10] <ubotu> _jeff: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:10] <ZeLL91> ho ha ho ho ho!
[12:10] <temi> exactly
[12:11] <ZeLL91> slob on my nob like corn on a cob
[12:11] <solan> how do I enable libexif?
[12:11] <temi> mabye i will
[12:11] <ZeLL91> check in with me then do your job
[12:11] <vge> ZeLL91: dont push your unbans :/
[12:11] <ZeLL91> = )
[12:11] <solan> I'm trying to install Mediatomb, and get a message about it being disabled when I ./configure..
[12:12] <HymnToLife> Seveas> hey I was just kidding, no offense
[12:12] <Seveas> you need the libexif dev packages solan
[12:12] <ZeLL91> jeff you have aim?
[12:12] <solan> aaah....
[12:12] <Riddell> solan: apt-cache search libexif should show the relevant -dev package
[12:12] <_jeff> ZeLL91: i have kopete, so yeah
[12:13] <ZeLL91> what is it
[12:13] <ZeLL91> ?
[12:13] <_soup> is it possible to get gnome like network icon in panel in kubuntu?
[12:13] <_jeff> HymnToLife: lol
[12:13] <_jeff> kopete is a multi client messenger that includes msn, aim, icq etc.
[12:13] <ZeLL91> ok
[12:13] <bipolar> _soup: you mean to show the status and contol network interfaces?
[12:13] <ZeLL91> but what is your aim?
[12:13] <_jeff> ZeLL91: lol i dont have an account though
[12:13] <_soup> bipolar : yes
[12:13] <temi> kopete doesnt let me sned files!!!
[12:14] <ZeLL91> lol
[12:14] <_jeff> ill make one, there are enough of my friends on aim
[12:14] <temi> so evil
[12:14] <HymnToLife> temi> that's a well known bug in Kopete
[12:14] <bipolar> _soup: I'm running dapper and use kde-network-manager. It's awesome.
[12:14] <_jeff> temi: are you using msn on kopete?
[12:14] <HymnToLife> get gaim ;)
[12:14] <ZeLL91> ok when you make one my aim is drkidd91
[12:14] <temi> kopete
[12:14] <temi> lol..
[12:14] <temi> _jeff: ya
[12:14] <ZeLL91> does kopete have sounf?
[12:14] <ZeLL91> sound*
[12:14] <bipolar> _soup: I don't have enough time to walk you though it's configuration, but it's all in the wiki.
[12:14] <_jeff> i think that may just be the msn network,
[12:14] <temi> meh
[12:15] <temi> im still trying to install windows
[12:15] <temi> but it doesnt let me cause its free space
[12:15] <temi> and i gotta mount it but i donno how
[12:15] <HymnToLife> temi> install windows ?
[12:15] <temi> ya
[12:15] <bipolar> _soup: All I can say is after you install, comment all the interfaces out of /etc/network/interfaces except for loopback (lo) and reboot.
[12:15] <vge> temi: tryed gparted?
[12:15] <ZeLL91> does anyone have kopete with sound
[12:15] <ZeLL91> ?
[12:15] <temi> vge what is gparted
[12:15] <vge> partition program
[12:16] <temi> ooh
[12:16] <temi> Gnome Partition Editor?
[12:16] <ZeLL91> does anyone have kopete with sound?
[12:16] <temi> my sound doesnt work at all heh
[12:16] <vge> temi: yes, works in kde too
[12:16] <HymnToLife> ZeLL91> quit asking, if someone did he'd have told you
[12:17] <ZeLL91> lol
[12:17] <_soup> bipolar : i just want to add status icon to a panel.
[12:17] <temi> vge can i install and run, or do i have to burn onto a cd?
[12:17] <solan> any1 ever used mediatomb?
[12:17] <vge> you can apt-get it if you wish
[12:18] <paulvolk> ok after I have done dist-upgrade what should I do?
[12:19] <paulvolk> restart?
[12:22] <asraniel> Riddell: i would be surpised if there were no ubuntu breezy cds (im not talking about dapper). so is there no way to get up to date breezy cds? since the pc i want to install it does not have internet and the old version was very buggy
[12:24] <Riddell> asraniel: get breezy CDs from kubuntu.org/download.php, but we havn't yet made ones incuding breezy-updates and breezy-security
[12:27] <asraniel> RIddell: thank you.. well thats a problem..  have to see how to solve it (the computer is for a linux newbie that only needs it for open office)
[12:28] <ZeLL91> is there a hacking channel?
[12:28] <ZeLL91> is there a way to hack with irc?
[12:28] <ZeLL91> ok i guess not
[12:29] <vge> ZeLL91: you ask things that are not di
[12:29] <vge> *not for this channel
[12:29] <_jeff> ZeLL91: did you get my /msg?
[12:30] <ZeLL91> no
[12:30] <ZeLL91> i didnt get your message
[12:30] <_jeff> im trying to private message ZeLL91 but it says im not registered
[12:30] <ZeLL91> then type /msg register then your password
[12:30] <_jeff> how do i register?
[12:30] <_jeff> ok
[12:31] <_jeff> error
[12:31] <BeerBaby> this PyGTK that is needed for wifi radar, u have to bloody compile it and then install etc? ugh god this is so much hassle lol
[12:31] <ZeLL91> did you put your pw after the register word?
[12:31] <ZeLL91> without <>
[12:31] <BeerBaby> i think im just going to chuck kubuntu and install suse at this rate
[12:32] <_jeff> yeah
[12:33] <_jeff> it says my name is already registered
[12:33] <ZeLL91> then change it
[12:33] <_jeff> poop
[12:33] <ZeLL91> jeff91 or something
[12:33] <ZeLL91> or jeff2006
[12:33] <ZeLL91> lol
[12:33] <jeff_m> ok done
[12:33] <ZeLL91> registered/
[12:33] <ZeLL91> ?
[12:34] <jeff_m> no, this is already registered too
[12:34] <jeff_m> damint
[12:34] <jeff_m> ok im going for my full name
[12:34] <ZeLL91> ~jeff~
[12:34] <ZeLL91> lol
[12:34] <jeff_marshall> ok it registered
[12:34] <ZeLL91> cool
[12:34] <jeff_marshall> whats the password for?
[12:34] <ZeLL91> now what were you gonna pm me?
[12:36] <Raven301> is there a c++ package for kubuntu?
[12:38] <temi> vge you there?
[12:39] <jeff_marshall> Raven301: what do you mean?
[12:41] <Raven301> jeff_marshall: I need  C++ compiler
[12:41] <jeff_marshall> Raven301: maybe something like libcpp
[12:42] <jeff_marshall> Raven301: type apt-cache search c++ compiler
[12:42] <temi> well in adept type c compiler, theres a couple things
[12:42] <Raven301> Couldn't find package libcpp
[12:42] <temi> Anyone know what the hell make is "Type `make' to compile the package."
[12:43] <HymnToLife> temi> just type make in a terminal
[12:43] <temi> i did it doesnt do anything
[12:43] <temi> like Command not found anything
[12:44] <Raven301> jeff_marshall: thanks for the command ... long list ... still looking
[12:44] <jeff_marshall> Raven301: np, wish i knew the specific package
[12:44] <HymnToLife> temi> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:45] <HymnToLife> but what are you trying to build anyway ?
[12:45] <jeff_marshall> Raven301: are tou trying to compile an app you downloaded?
[12:45] <Raven301> jeff_marshall: Trying to build E17
[12:46] <jeff_marshall> ZeLL91: wha?
[12:46] <ZeLL91> ?
[12:46] <ZeLL91> the message taht i sent you
[12:46] <ZeLL91> with the errors
[12:46] <jeff_marshall> Raven301: i think build-essential should help you too
[12:46] <jeff_marshall> yeah?
[12:46] <jeff_marshall> was that all?
[12:46] <jeff_marshall> that it gave you
[12:47] <Raven301> jeff_marshall: ok thanks
[12:47] <jeff_marshall> Raven301: np
[12:47] <ZeLL91> yeah
[12:47] <Xaero_Vincent> Wow the Kubuntu has really improved. Tell me will Kubuntu now become a equal support OS to Ubuntu? Will there be Kubuntu ship-it CDs?
[12:49] <temi> hymntolife make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[12:49] <Xaero_Vincent> the reason why I ask is because Ubuntu is the best... but Gnome isnt.  But Ubuntu has so much more popularity and thus has more community support... but will this change because KDE is better and KDE 4.0 will eat Gnome.
[12:50] <HymnToLife> temi> are you _sure_ you followed _all_ the instructions to build your stuff ?
[12:50] <temi> yup
[12:50] <temi> it says to run ./configure
[12:50] <temi> then it says
[12:50] <temi> type make
[12:50] <HymnToLife> and did you run ./configure ?
[12:50] <temi> yup
[12:50] <HymnToLife> did it tell you something unusual ?
[12:51] <temi> hm
[12:51] <temi> well it said if i compiled something ro rather, which i didnt
[12:51] <temi> ooh
[12:51] <temi> configure: error: GNU Parted requires libuuid - a part of the e2fsprogs package (but
[12:51] <temi> sometimes distributed separately in uuid-devel or similar)
[12:52] <HymnToLife> here you go then
[12:52] <HymnToLife> install it ;)
[12:52] <temi> hm... it says in adept it is installed
[12:52] <douglas> How do I start this new network-manager-kde package which I noticed for gnome and found a version for kde ? ---> http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[12:52] <jeff_marshall> Xaero_Vincent: yeah as long as we provide support for kubuntu
[12:53] <jeff_marshall> Xaero_Vincent: i think kubuntu will dominate soon
[12:53] <jeff_marshall> Xaero_Vincent: i used ubuntu for a long long time and gave gnome a good go
[12:53] <Xaero_Vincent> sweet!
[12:53] <jeff_marshall> Xaero_Vincent: but it was terrible boring and wasted a lot of space on my screen
[12:53] <jeff_marshall> no matter what i did to make things fit better
[12:53] <jeff_marshall> it was just bulky
[12:54] <douglas> anyone, network-manager for kde?
[12:54] <Xaero_Vincent> yes.. Gnome just lacks so much... the newest junk is the useless Gnome screensaver.. you cant even change the options!
[12:54] <jeff_marshall> douglas: i use wifi manager, but its for gnome
[12:54] <jeff_marshall> lol
[12:54] <jeff_marshall> and the default icons and themes are so ugly
[12:55] <jeff_marshall> although i prefer gdesklets to skaramba
[12:55] <douglas> jeff_marshall: I noticed in the release notes that there is the new network manager with the neat mac like wifi setup, is there a package for kde?
[12:55] <Xaero_Vincent> I dont need that kind of hindrance.. Me being a Windows user as well.. I want the eye candy and the features..
[12:56] <jeff_marshall> douglas: are you talking about wifi manager?
[12:56] <jeff_marshall> yeah i know
[12:56] <Xaero_Vincent> the new beta icons are nice and glossy.. alot of gimp work there
[12:56] <jeff_marshall> i want a devilishly sexy desktop that lis fast and responsive
[12:57] <jeff_marshall> kde
[12:57] <douglas> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperbeta On this page they refer to it as the new network manager from this website http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[12:57] <douglas> jeff_marshall: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/dapperbeta On this page they refer to it as the new network manager from this website http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[12:57] <Xaero_Vincent> I read KDE 4.0 will be at least 30% faster.. and Kubuntu will use that when it's released right?
[12:58] <Xaero_Vincent> probably 2007 sometime
[12:58] <HymnToLife> when is KDE 4.0 gonna be released ?
[12:59] <Xaero_Vincent> no set date
[12:59] <jeff_marshall> douglas: you i think you can get that with dapper then
[01:00] <douglas> So if I install this package called network-manager-kde then I can just reboot and it will load, because it would be a dream to have good wifi setup
[01:01] <jeff_marshall> douglas: i cant find any package called network-manager-kde
[01:02] <temi> hymnforlife, im getting a termcap error, but it says that (n)curses can also be a substitute, i tried getting both still nothing
[01:02] <douglas> hmm... perhaps it's in universe or multiverse?
[01:02] <jeff_marshall> i have both enabled and still nothing
[01:03] <douglas> hmm...
[01:03] <douglas> I'll just restart after bit
[01:03] <puckman> Another day and another download from the cool people at Kubuntu
[01:04] <puckman> They ROCK
[01:05] <HymnToLife> what download ?
[01:05] <ZeLL91> jeff?
[01:06] <yanis> where is konqueror in the kde menu?
[01:06] <puckman> the new dapper with the gfx installer
[01:06] <puckman> under internet
[01:07] <puckman> (web browser) konqueor
[01:07] <yanis> damn it, why is it there?
[01:08] <puckman> why not?
[01:08] <Raven301> How would I go about installing the x development headers for this disto??
[01:08] <puckman> it is a browser
[01:08] <leagris> Hello, I definetely brock all my dapper Kde tonight because an offending kcontrol broken post install script in last update
[01:09] <yanis> it's a file browser too
[01:09] <yanis> it should be in system
[01:10] <slow-motion> n8
[01:11] <Maneit> Anyone know how to compile kmplayer so that preview works in the properties dialogue?
[01:13] <idiotbs> hello
[01:14] <idiotbs> i'm having a problem installing dapper kubuntu
[01:15] <arthurb> Hi, is anyone having trouble with crystal icons on latest update from dapper ?
[01:16] <idiotbs> my harddisk died today, so i replaced it and was just installing ubuntu:server i saw that the dapper beta is released, so i decided to upgrade right away, and then do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:16] <ZeLL91> can someone tell me how to install giFT?
[01:16] <idiotbs> but when it comes to kcontrol it returns an error and stops
[01:17] <_jeff> ZeLL91: hey
[01:17] <_jeff> sry bout that
[01:17] <idiotbs> hi
[01:17] <ZeLL91> hi
[01:17] <ZeLL91> its ok
[01:17] <ZeLL91> _jeff:do you know how to install giFT?
[01:18] <ZeLL91> its too complicated
[01:18] <ZeLL91> please tell me how
[01:18] <_jeff> sudo apt-get install gift
[01:18] <_jeff> lol
[01:18] <ZeLL91> couldnt find package gift
[01:19] <arthurb> Is anyone having issues with crystal icons ?
[01:19] <idiotbs> it's in universe, ZeLL91
[01:19] <idiotbs> you need to uncomment the universe line in your sources.list
[01:20] <_jeff> ahh you dont have universe enabled
[01:20] <ZeLL91> do i have to download universe?
[01:20] <_jeff> yeah
[01:20] <_jeff> no
[01:20] <ZeLL91> how do i enable it?
[01:20] <_jeff> you have to remove the #'s in your sources.list that are in front of the universe repository
[01:20] <ZeLL91> ok
[01:20] <ZeLL91> where?
[01:21] <ZeLL91> can i find this?
[01:21] <_jeff> it will say something in there where your universe repository is
[01:21] <idiotbs> you can do that in adept -> manage repositories
[01:21] <_jeff>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:21] <_jeff> yeah or that
[01:21] <idiotbs> or edit that file
[01:21] <_jeff> you probably want to get familliar with ur sources.list file though
[01:21] <_jeff> because adept sucks once you know all your commands and stuff
[01:22] <ZeLL91> im in the source.list
[01:22] <ZeLL91> what now?
[01:22] <idiotbs> search it for "universe"
[01:22] <_jeff> look for where it says anything about breezy universe
[01:22] <idiotbs> and remove the ## at the start of the line
[01:22] <ZeLL91> ok found it
[01:23] <ZeLL91> # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[01:23] <ZeLL91> # deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[01:23] <ZeLL91> sorry bout that
[01:23] <_jeff> that looks about right
[01:23] <_jeff> are there #'s in front of those lines?
[01:23] <_jeff> lol yeah there are
[01:23] <_jeff> remove them and save it
[01:24] <_jeff> you have to do this as root
[01:24] <ZeLL91> i cant
[01:24] <ZeLL91> oh as root
[01:24] <ZeLL91> edit as root?
[01:24] <idiotbs> yes
[01:25] <arthurb> ZeLL91: you can edit your source.list as root using adept
[01:25] <_jeff> yeah
[01:25] <HymnToLife> yep, as a regular user, you can't edit anything outside your /home dir
[01:25] <ZeLL91> ok done
[01:25] <arthurb> or just   sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:25] <arthurb> HymnToLife: save /tmp
[01:25] <_jeff> dude just do sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:25] <idiotbs> if you have to edit a file outside /home you must likely be root
[01:25] <ZeLL91> now what do i type again?
[01:25] <ZeLL91> the command?
[01:25] <HymnToLife> and /tmp indeed
[01:25] <arthurb> and /media/... depending on fstab
[01:25] <arthurb> ok I'm done :)
[01:25] <ZeLL91> ok
[01:26] <ZeLL91> whats the command?
[01:26] <arthurb> ANYWAY, is anyone having trouble with the crystal icons not being available anymore after a recent dapper update ? Please, this is a yes or no questions for dapper user
[01:27] <idiotbs> i can't tell, arthurb, i'm still having trouble getting kubuntu-desktop installed :P
[01:29] <idiotbs> it says
[01:30] <idiotbs> dpkg: error processing kcontrol (--configure):
[01:30] <idiotbs>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[01:30] <idiotbs> but i can't see what's the problem
[01:33] <jeff_marshall> do you guys know how to see sombody's ip adress from the user list?
[01:34] <temifowl> hey anyone know where i can find ATK?
[01:35] <ep> It works but I've have unsolvable audio mixing problems with on board (AMD Asus Nvidia chipset) AC97 sound.  Hence  I want to install this SB live card I've got laying around.  How do I do this?
[01:35] <crimsun> ep: just install it and choose the sblive as your default
[01:35] <arthurb> jeff_marshall: /qui username
[01:35] <jeff_marshall> ok
[01:35] <ep> install what
[01:36] <crimsun> ep: your card. physically.
[01:36] <jeff_marshall> arthurb: it didnt work :X
[01:36] <ep> I'm not installling kubuntu its already installed -- so where do I choose sblive as my defualt?
[01:37] <crimsun> ep: I meant physically plug in the sblive while the computer is powered down
[01:37] <ep> i know that much:) haven't done it yet thought
[01:37] <crimsun> ep: after that, I need the output from ``asoundconf list''
[01:38] <ep> okay, I dont' need to disable the onboard sound in the bios? (or jumper)
[01:39] <crimsun> no
[01:40] <idiotbs> nobody has an idea about my kcontrol problem? i can't install kubuntu-desktop without it
[01:40] <ep> ok i'll get back to you (or someone) in a few with the asoundconf output
[01:41] <arthurb> jeff_marshall: sorry, it's /quit username
[01:41] <jeff_marshall> arthurb: lol sure
[01:41] <arthurb> ok ok ... /ip ... how hard is it ?
[01:42] <arthurb> sorry /dns
[01:48] <arthurb> hi could someone lists his /usr/shar/icons directory for me ?
[01:48] <arthurb> ls -l
[01:48] <temi> Hey, if i install windows, it overrides Grub, how would i se up grub without installing whole kubuntu again?
[01:49] <jeroenvrp> arthurb: why? Is very long
[01:49] <jeff_marshall> temi: not sure
[01:49] <jeff_marshall> !grub
[01:49] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:49] <temifowl> lol jeff
[01:49] <idiotbs> you can use the livecd and repair it
[01:49] <temifowl> but i only have an install
[01:50] <jeroenvrp> and why installing windows
[01:50] <idiotbs> also valid
[01:50] <temifowl> i need windows for general usage
[01:50] <temifowl> aka printer
[01:50] <arthurb> jeroenvrp: no.. should be a few lines only
[01:50] <acejones> i am installing KDE as we speak
[01:51] <idiotbs> you boot the installcd until the language question comes up, then hit alt+F2
[01:51] <acejones> why make a whole nother distro for kde
[01:51] <acejones> just use ubuntu right
[01:51] <arthurb> this is ubuntu
[01:51] <jeroenvrp> arthurb:
[01:51] <jeroenvrp> crystalsvg   gnome    ikons       kubuntu  mono          skype.png      xchat_mini.xpm
[01:51] <jeroenvrp> default      hicolor  kdeclassic  locolor  qjackctl.png  slick          xine.xpm
[01:51] <jeroenvrp> default.kde  Human    kids        Locolor  Rodent        SphereCrystal
[01:52] <arthurb> ahah
[01:52] <arthurb> I miss default and defaut.kde
[01:52] <jeroenvrp> default.kde -> crystalsvg
[01:52] <jeroenvrp> default is empty
[01:53] <jeroenvrp> so that will be easy to fix
[01:53] <jeff_marshall> acejones: what do you mean?
[01:53] <acejones> is kubuntu a distro or is it just ubuntu install with kde added
[01:53] <jeff_marshall> acejones: they are the same os, just geared for different desktop environments
[01:53] <Search4Lancer> how can I make Konversation open links in an existing Firefox window in a new tab (as it already does), but without trying to open a new instance of Firefox as well?
[01:53] <temifowl> ejooy
[01:54] <temifowl> whot
[01:54] <jeroenvrp> acejones: call it a sub-distro
[01:54] <dbakker> acejones: yeah ubuntu is a sub of debian
[01:54] <jeff_marshall> lol the ubuntu team doesnt want it called that
[01:54] <jeroenvrp> wel also have xubuntu en edubuntu
[01:54] <Search4Lancer> it has to be a Konversation thing, because I have the setting in Firefox correct, and I had the same problem with Thunderbird before I added something to the TB config file
[01:54] <jeff_marshall> its not a sub distro
[01:54] <arthurb> as well as I don't have crystalsvg :(
[01:54] <jeff_marshall> they prefer we think of ubuntu with gnome as default and kubuntu as an alternative
[01:54] <idiotbs> the difference is that ubuntu comes with no kde packages and kubuntu comes with no gnome packages
[01:55] <dbakker> if i installed kde on ubuntu would it be the same as kubuntu?
[01:55] <idiotbs> so they're really about what they DON'T have
[01:55] <idiotbs> yes
[01:56] <jeroenvrp> Search4Lancer: you can set your browser in konversation config
[01:56] <idiotbs> so did anybody upgrade breezy to dapper?
[01:56] <jeroenvrp> Search4Lancer: and you should set firefox to have all in single window, maybe an extension, waiy
[01:56] <jeroenvrp> t
[01:57] <Search4Lancer> erm jeroenvrp, where in Konversation config?
[01:57] <Search4Lancer> I do have Firefox set to have all in single window
[01:57] <jeroenvrp> Behaviour > General
[01:58] <Search4Lancer> there is nothing pertaining to my issue in Behavior>General
[01:58] <Search4Lancer> er
[01:58] <Search4Lancer> maybe there is
[01:58] <jeroenvrp> use other browser
[01:58] <Search4Lancer> gotcha
[01:58] <jeroenvrp> great!
[01:59] <Search4Lancer> except, now it's not working at all
[01:59] <jeroenvrp> strange
[01:59] <Search4Lancer> it tries to open the url file:///home/redphoenix/'http://www.whatever.com'
[01:59] <jeroenvrp> firefox %u
[01:59] <Search4Lancer> got it, had to take out the \'%u\'
[01:59] <jeroenvrp> you should use %u
[01:59] <Search4Lancer> works fine now just as firefox
[02:00] <Search4Lancer> pizza time... later
[02:02] <jeroenvrp> Search4Lancer: firefox %u and  firefox '%u' work both great for me
[02:02] <jeroenvrp> it opens all in new tab
[02:02] <jeroenvrp> enjoy yor pizza
[02:03] <jeroenvrp> idiotbs: I upgraded from beezy to dapper, what do you want to know?
[02:04] <idiotbs> did you have any problems?
[02:05] <idiotbs> i can't get past kcontrol when trying to install kubuntu-desktop
[02:05] <jeroenvrp> never had any real problems
[02:06] <jeroenvrp> idiotbs: what is exactly the problem - kcontrol?!
[02:06] <idiotbs> i just installed with the breezy-install cd (server)and upgraded
[02:06] <mchasard> hello
[02:06] <idiotbs> dpkg: error processing kcontrol (--configure):
[02:06] <idiotbs>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:06] <mchasard> just run the new kubuntu 6.06 beta
[02:06] <mchasard> as live cd use
[02:07] <idiotbs> this is all it tells me, not very talkative
[02:07] <jeroenvrp> idiotbs: is that all
[02:07] <idiotbs> downloading the live cd takes the whole night, but this evening my old hdd died, so it was a quick decision to upgrade
[02:07] <idiotbs> yes, that's all
[02:08] <idiotbs> i tried it with dpkg-i --force-overwrite, but also no go
[02:08] <idiotbs> but then again... what should it overwrite? :D
[02:08] <jeroenvrp> idiotbs: did you first upgraded you breezy install?
[02:09] <jeroenvrp> idiotbs: how did you upgrade to breezy?
[02:09] <idiotbs> i installed just the minimum (boot-command: server) and upgraded, then rebooted
[02:09] <mchasard> the boot is not so speedy
[02:09] <ubuntu___> I can't get dapper to boot... seems to install fine
[02:09] <ubuntu___> I'm on the live cd right now
[02:10] <jeroenvrp> idiotbs: is your sources.list ok
[02:10] <jeroenvrp> idiotbs: there is also a few commands you should run
[02:10] <idiotbs> i doublechecked, and all breezy is renamed dapper
[02:10] <jeroenvrp> and did you only do apt-get upgrade?
[02:11] <idiotbs> dist-upgrade
[02:11] <jeroenvrp> mmm
[02:11] <jeroenvrp> I remember I had to 3 apt-get commands
[02:11] <idiotbs> update, upgrade, dist-upgrade?
[02:12] <mchasard> can we run a program out the cdlive ...?
[02:12] <jeroenvrp> no, wait
[02:12] <mchasard> with apt-get
[02:13] <idiotbs> you mean install a program in it?
[02:15] <jeroenvrp> idiotbs: I also remember something with disselect
[02:15] <jeroenvrp> distselect
[02:16] <idiotbs> mchasard: you're on the live-cd, yes? can you try dcc'ing me the /etc/apt/sources.list?
[02:17] <temifowl> dam my partitions are MESSED
[02:17] <mchasard> euh yes wait
[02:17] <idiotbs> maybe that can fix it
[02:18] <mchasard> permission denied idiotsbs ?
[02:18] <jeff_marshall> kubuntu
[02:18] <jeff_marshall> rules
[02:18] <jjesse> updated wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperBeta w/ screenshots of espresso
[02:18] <mchasard> i suppose i have to be as root
[02:18] <mchasard> but which password please ?
[02:18] <idiotbs> none?
[02:19] <idiotbs> or maybe: dapper?
[02:19] <mchasard> no don't work
[02:19] <idiotbs> shit... thx anyway
[02:20] <mchasard> hum how to run xterm as root ?
[02:20] <jeroenvrp> mchasard: sudo xterm
[02:20] <mchasard> ok
[02:20] <jeroenvrp> or sudo -i
[02:20] <jeroenvrp> or sudo su
[02:20] <jeroenvrp> oh whatever
[02:21] <mchasard> ok sudo xterm works thanks
[02:22] <mchasard> as root also permission denied for etc/apt/sources.list
[02:22] <temifowl> Has anyone ever used GParted?
[02:22] <jeroenvrp> idiotbs: so you did a apt-get install update + upgrade ?
[02:22] <idiotbs> yes
[02:22] <jeroenvrp> temifowl: ask at #ubuntu
[02:22] <temifowl> k
[02:23] <idiotbs> and then a reboot
[02:23] <idiotbs> after that i tried apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:23] <jeroenvrp> idiotbs: what I think is that you better first should update breezy to the current revision
[02:23] <idiotbs> most of it installed, only kcontrol not, plus 6 packages that want kcontrol installed first
[02:24] <idiotbs> oh.... good idea, that could be it
[02:24] <mchasard> kubuntu or ubuntu ...which one  to use ?
[02:24] <leagris> idiotbs, latest kcontrol package for dapper has broken post-install scripts
[02:24] <idiotbs> ahaaaa!!
[02:24] <elijahlofgren> idiotbs: Yes kcontrol is broken right now: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=163378
[02:25] <idiotbs> is there a way to fix that?
[02:25] <idiotbs> phew! i thought i was getting stoopid :D
[02:25] <elijahlofgren> idiotbs: You could maybe install and different version of the package.
[02:25] <jeroenvrp> aaaah
[02:25] <leagris> wait tomorow and we may have a fixed package available on repos (hope so)
[02:25] <jeroenvrp> idiotbs: thats great to hear!
[02:25] <jeroenvrp> so I should not update dapper now
[02:26] <idiotbs> cool, it's 2:30 am here now, so i'll let it rest until tomorrow
[02:26] <jeroenvrp> idiotbs: or downloading the beta
[02:26] <leagris> I spent several hours trying to fix a suposedly broken kde install. Now my kde is completely gone and I am using gnome again ;D
[02:26] <jeroenvrp> leagris: what went wrong
[02:27] <elijahlofgren> Aha, a workaround https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/40393
[02:27] <idiotbs> i thought if i enter dapper in the sources.list i would get the beta, from today on
[02:27] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 40393 in kdebase kcontrol "Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu9 crashes during post-installation" [Normal,Confirmed] 
[02:27] <jeroenvrp> idiotbs: you get the post-beta
[02:27] <idiotbs> wow, thx!
[02:27] <leagris> jeroenvrp, several updated kde package went unconfigured because of the kcontrol post install script broken. And sadly so many packages depends on kcontrol that it broke may of them
[02:28] <idiotbs> it's only 6, actually
[02:28] <jeroenvrp> leagris: yes I understand
[02:28] <idiotbs> k3b, kde-systemsettings (!!!), konqueror (!!!!!!!!) and some others
[02:28] <jeroenvrp> bad day for an upgrade
[02:29] <Xaero_Vincent> So when might we see shipit CDs for Kubuntu?  May or June?
[02:29] <Xaero_Vincent> :D
[02:29] <jeroenvrp> Xaero_Vincent: not before june I suppose
[02:29] <elijahlofgren> Xaero_Vincent: Probably after June since that's when Dapper is supposed to be released.
[02:30] <Xaero_Vincent> cool.. its nice that there will be CDs now... that will help make Kubuntu compete with Ubuntu
[02:30] <jeroenvrp> copete?
[02:30] <jeroenvrp> we dont copete
[02:30] <jeroenvrp> compete :-)
[02:30] <leagris> jeroenvrp, it is just a reminder whe are using beta stage Ubuntu. It used to work so well in Dapper that fact went unnoticed :)
[02:30] <Xaero_Vincent> heh look again at my spelling
[02:31] <jeroenvrp> leagris: I'm updating now
[02:31] <jeroenvrp> I like to see what goes wrong
[02:31] <jeroenvrp> call me a disaster-tourist :-)
[02:31] <leagris> jeroenvrp, do you know a dpkg syntax to force installation of kcontrol and avoiding post-install script ?
[02:32] <jeroenvrp> leagris: good one
[02:32] <leagris> as a workaround until next update ?
[02:32] <elijahlofgren> I've been putting off upgrades unless I really feel like I need them (I read changlogs using the update-manger) so I save bandwidth and time until Dapper final is out.
[02:33] <jeroenvrp> leagris: you can configure all packages one at a time
[02:33] <Xaero_Vincent> Hey... I have a simple polishing idea for Kubuntu... How about using the blue Kubuntu icon for the programs button instead of the blue "K" one?
[02:34] <idiotbs> yesssssssss! it worked!
[02:34] <jeroenvrp> idiotbs: great
[02:34] <leagris> jeroenvrp, tryed that and it refuse to configure if a parent package is not
[02:34] <idiotbs> now i can start feeling at home again
[02:34] <mchasard> please theres no newsreader program in kubuntu 6.06 beta ?
[02:35] <mchasard> hum even knode is not here ...
[02:35] <leagris> mchasard, kmail, thunderbird, evolution...
[02:35] <leagris> at least thunderbird and evo
[02:35] <elijahlofgren> mchasard: Just install knode: "sudo apt-get install knode"
[02:36] <mchasard> hum but i use it as live cd
[02:36] <mchasard> so its doesn't work
[02:36] <mchasard> pitty
[02:36] <leagris> mchasard, live DVD is more complete
[02:36] <jeroenvrp> leagris: you can try --force-all
[02:36] <Ahmuck> hi, is nagios avaialbe in adept ?
[02:36] <elijahlofgren> mchasard: Hmm. I don't know what to do about that then. (I don't use a news reader. I like RSS feeds and mailing lists)
[02:36] <leagris> jeroenvrp, yep, tryed it as well :)
[02:36] <jeroenvrp> mm
[02:37] <jeroenvrp> than try the workaround
[02:37] <mchasard> i can't burn live dvd bye me ...nor dvd burner
[02:37] <leagris> I learned the art of tweeking broken or flakey dependencies with Mandriva before ;D
[02:37] <Ahmuck> what is the differencne in kubuntu 6.0.6 LTS and flight 6.0.6 ?
[02:38] <elijahlofgren> Ahmuck: Yes, seems like it.
[02:38] <elijahlofgren> elijahlofgren@ubuntu:~$ apt-cache search nagios
[02:38] <elijahlofgren> nagios-common - A host/service/network monitoring and management system
[02:38] <idiotbs> what does LTS mean anyway?
[02:38] <elijahlofgren> Long Term Support
[02:38] <leagris> LTS = Let This S**t ? ;D
[02:38] <idiotbs> ah, ok!
[02:38] <idiotbs> makes sense :D
[02:38] <idiotbs> good one leagris
[02:38] <Search4Lancer> is 6.06 Beta any different than the Dapper I'm running now with daily updated packages?
[02:38] <idiotbs> at least today
[02:39] <crimsun> yes, there are updates beyond 6.06 LTS beta
[02:39] <ep> Crimsun I just installed the sb live card.  What next?  Pastebin /etc/asound.conf or something
[02:40] <jeroenvrp> Search4Lancer: the one right now is a few days newer
[02:40] <Ahmuck> so how does one choose between LTS and Flight ?
[02:41] <jeroenvrp> Ahmuck: choose?!
[02:41] <Xaero_Vincent> eh?
[02:41] <jeroenvrp> The flights are now old
[02:41] <Ahmuck> yes, where are the core differences explained ?? are they different ?
[02:41] <jeroenvrp> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/dapper-beta.php
[02:41] <idiotbs> LTS replaces flight6, no?
[02:42] <elijahlofgren> Ahmuck: LTS just means "Long Term Support". They added that to the beta name. The beta is newer than all flights.
[02:42] <Xaero_Vincent> Beta 1 vs Alpha 6 is what it is
[02:42] <Ahmuck> ok, that is what i wondered
[02:42] <Ahmuck> what happened to the live cd download
[02:43] <ep> I have unsolvable sound mixing issues. Hence, I have just physically installed an SB live card.  Now, how do I configure kubutu to use the new hardware?
[02:43] <Ahmuck> nm
[02:43] <elijahlofgren> ep: I think you could just open kmix (in the system tray) and switch to using the new soundcard.
[02:43] <jeroenvrp> Ahmuck: its still there
[02:44] <Search4Lancer> yes jeroenvrp, but since I continue to update packages, don't I have the same thing, or no?
[02:44] <Search4Lancer> or is there some other way I need to update?
[02:44] <elijahlofgren> Search4Lancer: Yes, you probably have newer. ;)
[02:44] <jeroenvrp> Search4Lancer: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:44] <Xaero_Vincent> So what features will Ubuntu Dapper have that Kubuntu Dapper wont? Or are things pretty equal now?
[02:45] <jeroenvrp> Xaero_Vincent: they are equal, except the other one is gnome and the other one is kde
[02:45] <idiotbs> ubuntu=kubuntu, only the preinstalled desktop and software differs
[02:45] <jeroenvrp> please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu
[02:45] <idiotbs> but what's not preinstalled can be installed later; and what's preinstalled can be removed
[02:45] <jeroenvrp> yes
[02:45] <Search4Lancer> "kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version." so :-P
[02:46] <jeroenvrp> Search4Lancer: so that means, you are 100% up-to-date :-)
[02:46] <Search4Lancer> well then
[02:46] <Xaero_Vincent> well... that wasnt the case for Kubuntu brezzy which had problems and not as many tools.. like the package updater right? and Add/Remove applications program?
[02:47] <Xaero_Vincent> probematic printing and hybernation too
[02:47] <Xaero_Vincent> it looks like the newest fixes all that tho... so now everything is all good?
[02:49] <idiotbs> this is not the end
[02:49] <idiotbs> only in the end everything is all good
[02:49] <idiotbs> but it's much more exciting to see it grow, isn't it :)
[02:51] <Xaero_Vincent> well I mean for it having quality equal to Ubuntu.
[02:52] <leagris>  @ Hello, I am Klippy: It appear you are trying to update Kcontrol. Would you like to install Gnome instead?
[02:52] <elijahlofgren> leagris: LOL.
[02:52] <idiotbs> in my opinion that was the case before, simply because KDE alone features a lot more than gnome
[02:55] <jeff_marshall> kde>gnome
[02:57] <HaxoR91> huh?
[02:57] <HaxoR91> ima try to help people
[02:57] <HaxoR91> lol
[02:59] <jeroenvrp> idiotbs: for me the workaround doesnt work
[03:00] <idiotbs> you must first attempt to install kcontrol, and not remove it, or the file is not in place
[03:00] <HaxoR91> does anyone need help?
[03:00] <jeroenvrp> idiotbs: kcontrol was installed, but not configured
[03:01] <idiotbs> not anymeure, haxor!
[03:01] <HaxoR91> lol
[03:01] <jeroenvrp> and when I do a  sudo dpkg --configure kcontrol it still gives the same error
[03:01] <idiotbs> follow the instructions on the launchpad site
[03:02] <idiotbs> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/40393
[03:02] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 40393 in kdebase kcontrol "Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu9 crashes during post-installation" [Normal,Confirmed] 
[03:02] <jeroenvrp> thats what I did
[03:03] <idiotbs> then just apt-get install kcontrol again
[03:03] <idiotbs> that's what i did
[03:04] <Xaero_Vincent> is this a bug with Dapper or Breezy?
[03:04] <jeroenvrp> doesnt work
[03:04] <idiotbs> dapper
[03:04] <elijahlofgren> Xaero_Vincent: Dapper.
[03:04] <idiotbs> sadly
[03:04] <idiotbs> today, when they release the beta
[03:05] <jeroenvrp> oh well
[03:05] <jeroenvrp> it all still works
[03:05] <Xaero_Vincent> well hay its a beta now isnt it? :P
[03:05] <idiotbs> i first half-installed kcontrol and left it unconfigured, then edited the file (which was not there before), then installed again
[03:05] <idiotbs> hehe, yeah
[03:06] <jeroenvrp> I had to comment out those lines
[03:06] <jeroenvrp> not to run those lines :_)
[03:06] <idiotbs> oh, hehe
[03:07] <Hobbsee> ah yes, lovely
[03:07] <Hobbsee> idiotbs: i'm fairly certain that they wouldnt have these botched packages on the CD
[03:07] <jeroenvrp> but heh its 3 am over here :-)
[03:08] <HaxoR91> its 9 p over here
[03:08] <HaxoR91> pm*
[03:08] <idiotbs> here too
[03:08] <idiotbs> 3am
[03:08] <HaxoR91> = )
[03:08] <HaxoR91> hallo
[03:08] <HaxoR91> guten tag
[03:08] <jeroenvrp> idiotbs: ok
[03:08] <jeroenvrp> I'm in the Netherlands
[03:08] <jeroenvrp> as you guess
[03:08] <jeroenvrp> can guess
[03:09] <idiotbs> i like netherlands, got some good friends there
[03:12] <Hobbsee> jeroenvrp: how long ago did you update?
[03:12] <jeroenvrp> Hobbsee: just 15 min. ago
[03:12] <Hobbsee> jeroenvrp: right
[03:12] <jeroenvrp> but the workaround works
[03:13] <idiotbs> yeah, or it would be a failaround :D
[03:13] <jeroenvrp> I was just curious to have the problem :-)
[03:13] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:15] <idiotbs> good nite everyone, slaap lekker, i think i'll return soon!
[03:15] <idiotbs> have fun
[03:16] <jeroenvrp> gute nacht idiotbs
[03:17] <idiotbs> oh, and thx for the help!
[03:17] <Hobbsee> jeroenvrp: mine didnt complain...
[03:18] <jeroenvrp> Hobbsee: are you sure
[03:18] <jeroenvrp> dod you tried a sudo dpkg --configure -a , afterwards
[03:18] <Hobbsee> jeroenvrp: well, it did a bit, saying that the directories werent empty, but seemed to configure okay
[03:18] <jeroenvrp> ok
[03:18] <jeroenvrp> than its maybe fixed
[03:19] <jeroenvrp> let me check
[03:19] <joaoa> has anyone had a good experience printing a calendar from KOrganizer to pdf using kprint ? because when i do it the output file has the letters going up and down...
[03:20] <Hobbsee> jeroenvrp: i seem to be using the same versoin of you, which makes it odd...
[03:20] <jeroenvrp> Hobbsee: I dont have new packages
[03:20] <Hobbsee> jeroenvrp: no errors for dpkg --configure -a
[03:20] <jeroenvrp> what version of kcontrol do you have?
[03:21] <jeroenvrp> I have 3.5.2-0ubuntu9
[03:22] <Hobbsee> Get: 28 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main kcontrol 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu9 [7963kB] 
[03:22] <dbakker> any1 have xgl working?
[03:24] <jeroenvrp> Hobbsee: very strange
[03:25] <Hobbsee> jeroenvrp: very!
[03:25] <troy> is anyone running the dapper beta? does it seem reasonably well behaved? (a few bugs I can live with - gives me something to report...)
[03:25] <jeroenvrp> oh well, maybe you have a slightly different config
[03:26] <Hobbsee> troy: yeah, i'm runnign it, it seems okay, a kcontrol bug that most people are reproducing
[03:26] <jeroenvrp> troy: its great
[03:26] <dbakker> troy: I am and have no issues
[03:26] <troy> okay, well if kcontrol is borked, I can still edit the config files :)
[03:26] <jeroenvrp> i? running dapper from as february
[03:26] <elijahlofgren> troy: I'm running it. But if you run into a kcontrol issue the workaround is here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/40393
[03:26] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 40393 in kdebase kcontrol "Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu9 crashes during post-installation" [Normal,Confirmed] 
[03:26] <jeroenvrp> troy: no kcontrol is ok
[03:26] <jeroenvrp> but the update isnt
[03:27] <jeroenvrp> so dont update today
[03:27] <troy> got it
[03:27] <jeroenvrp> tomorrow will be fine I think
[03:28] <Hobbsee> well, it doesnt die dramatically
[03:28] <Hobbsee> it's ignorable :P
[03:28] <troy> I'm still finishing my /home backup on breezy so it'll probably be tomorrow before I can update anyway
[03:29] <Hobbsee> ah yes
[03:29] <jeroenvrp> troy: always good to have a different home-partition
[03:30] <jeroenvrp> actually with this, I managed to update from several distros
[03:30] <jeroenvrp> SuSE > Gentoo > SuSE > Kubuntu
[03:30] <troy> jeroenvrp: yeah, I used to do that - now I no longer do since it forces me to do semi-regular backups this way - which I wouldn't do otherwise :)
[03:31] <jeroenvrp> oh well
[03:31] <jeroenvrp> thats your choice
[03:31] <ep> I have just now installed a SB live card, it works when I boot to windows.  It does NOT work in Kubuntu.  Please help.
[03:31] <troy> I also have a removable hard disk that I store much of my stuff on -- just it's too small for my music collection and such
[03:31] <jeroenvrp> ep: try this:
[03:32] <ep> Note, I also have onboard sound, some weeks ago, In a failed effort to get mixing to work, I created /etc/asound.conf and also edited /etc/sound/esound.conf per forum instructions.
[03:32] <jeroenvrp> sudo alsactl power 0 off
[03:32] <jeroenvrp> sudo alsactl power 0 on
[03:32] <jeroenvrp> see if you get sound afterwards
[03:32] <ep> okies
[03:33] <HaxoR91> do any of ya know python?
[03:33] <troy> HaxoR91: yes, but if you need help, best to try in #python :)
[03:33] <crimsun> ep: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''
[03:33] <HaxoR91> no i dont need help
[03:33] <HaxoR91> where can i download the tutorial from
[03:33] <HaxoR91> python .org yes
[03:34] <HaxoR91> but like where is the download link?
[03:35] <troy> HaxoR91: the one that got me started half a dozen years ago is here: http://docs.python.org/tut/
[03:35] <HaxoR91> yeah thanks i downloaded the tutorial
[03:36] <noch> hey, anyone awake in here?
[03:36] <noch> hey cheese man
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> Howdy
[03:36] <troy> noch: one of the more active channels around
[03:36] <noch> i have a question about X server
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> Which is?
[03:37] <troy> noch: ask - if we can't help, we might know a good place to get help for your question...
[03:37] <noch> i am installing ubuntu on a clean partition (first time linux user) and when i got to selecting my resolution i got this error . . .
[03:38] <crimsun> ep: any progress?
[03:38] <HaxoR91> whats the error?
[03:38] <HaxoR91> noch:whats the error?
[03:38] <noch> it said error in res sol conf, log written to var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:38] <ep> crimsun http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/672492
[03:38] <noch> i dunno, its still nistalling, so i cant looka t the error log
[03:39] <HaxoR91> i think you have to configure the xserver
[03:39] <noch> erm, it still installing, so i cant look at the log life
[03:39] <noch> yea, thats it
[03:39] <HaxoR91> the xserver?
[03:39] <noch> yea
[03:39] <crimsun> ep: ok, sec
[03:39] <troy> noch: it should install successfully but once it's finished it'll give you a text-mode install (most likely)
[03:39] <HaxoR91> try this command in the terminal sudo dpkg-reconfigure xsrver-xorg
[03:39] <troy> noch: then you can check the logs and/or update your configuration for the graphical modes
[03:40] <Hobbsee> !+xcfg
[03:40] <ubotu> well, xcfg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:40] <HaxoR91> xserver*
[03:40] <crimsun> ep: are you using breezy or dapper?
[03:40] <noch> i cant right now, ubuntu is still installing other packages
[03:40] <HaxoR91> thaks ubou
[03:40] <HaxoR91> ubotu
[03:40] <HaxoR91> when it finishes
[03:40] <troy> noch: just wait then
[03:40] <ep> 5.10 i think
[03:40] <HaxoR91> type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:41] <ep> whats the command line for that :)
[03:41] <HaxoR91> noch:after the ionstallation though in the terminal
[03:41] <ep> to check the version
[03:41] <noch> ok
[03:41] <HaxoR91> the command line?
[03:41] <crimsun> lsb_release -r
[03:41] <HaxoR91> try ubuntu version
[03:42] <ep> ubuntu isn't a command
[03:42] <HaxoR91> hmm
[03:42] <crimsun> ep: (I gave you the command)
[03:42] <ice_1963> :)
[03:42] <HaxoR91> lol
[03:42] <crimsun> maybe it's time I actually got that cloak so people will actually listen ;)
[03:43] <Hobbsee> crimsun: hehe.  that's always useful
[03:43] <ep> sorry yes lsb_release -r outputs 5.10
[03:43] <HaxoR91> so anyone else have any problems?
[03:43] <HaxoR91> i guess not
[03:44] <crimsun> ep: ok, so if you're using breezy, it's a bit longer than in dapper, but it's still feasible. copy and paste the following command into a Konsole: echo "options snd-mpu401 index=-2" |sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base && echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2" |sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[03:45] <ep> okay
[03:45] <crimsun> ep: after you've copied and pasted that whole command, copy and paste this one: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload
[03:46] <ice_1963> i think xmms is better then Amarok :)
[03:46] <HaxoR91> = )
[03:47] <ep> done, I'll test
[03:47] <HaxoR91> ok
[03:47] <HaxoR91> noch
[03:47] <noch> heya
[03:47] <HaxoR91> did it finish?
[03:47] <noch> i jsut went though the xserver options again
[03:47] <HaxoR91> oh
[03:47] <noch> should i restart?
[03:47] <HaxoR91> just keep pressing enter
[03:47] <elijahlofgren> ice_1963: Depends what you're after. If you just want to play one file then XMMS is probably better. ;)
[03:48] <noch> yea, did that
[03:48] <HaxoR91> in the xserver configuration
[03:48] <HaxoR91> ?
[03:48] <noch> i think the first time i might have selecte a resolution too high
[03:48] <HaxoR91> what monitor do you have?
[03:48] <ep> Playing Oh Girl by paul young, good version. Thanks!  Now to see if mixing works
[03:48] <noch> 14.1 inch laptop
[03:48] <HaxoR91> oh
[03:48] <HaxoR91> whats the resolution you put?
[03:49] <crimsun> ep: you don't need mixing
[03:49] <noch> i set the max to 1600 by 1200 since its a widescreen
[03:49] <crimsun> ep: your hardware supports multiopen natively (in the hardware)
[03:49] <HaxoR91> damn
[03:49] <HaxoR91> you should of just put 1024x768
[03:49] <HaxoR91> but try it anyways
[03:49] <noch> hold on, ima try to find the res on dell's site
[03:49] <noch> brb
[03:49] <HaxoR91> if it doesnt work come back
[03:49] <HaxoR91> ok?
[03:49] <noch> k
[03:50] <ep> I might of installed stuff trying to get the other card to mix (play sounds in multible apps)
[03:50] <ep> dmix or whatever
[03:50] <crimsun> ep: then just move ~/.asoundrc* and/or /etc/asound.conf out of the way
[03:50] <ep> okay
[03:51] <ice_1963> elijahlofgren:but xmms work's good with streamtuner
[03:51] <elijahlofgren> ice_1963: Use whatever works best for you, that what I say. ;)
[03:52] <ice_1963> and your right to
[03:52] <produkt> having trouble installing the latest dapper beta
[03:52] <produkt> and I can't mount my hard drive from the live cd either :/
[03:53] <ep> multiopen is working now :-)  Funny I've had this card laying around all this time trying to get the onboard sound to function correctly.  Its a high dollar Asus board and i thoght it would have harware mixing.  Stupid of me.
[03:53] <produkt> can't find /dev/hda1 in etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[03:54] <ep> crimsun: Thanks for the help
[03:54] <crimsun> ep: np
[03:54] <HaxoR91> pdukt:hmm thats strange
[03:54] <HaxoR91> produkt:thats strange
[03:54] <bimberi> produkt: you'll need to create and then specify a mount point. 'sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1' then 'sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1'
[03:56] <produkt> now it says could not enter folder /mnt/hda1 but it shows it's mounted :/
[03:57] <produkt> in /dev hda1 has a lock as part of the icon
[03:57] <_jeff> whats up guys
[03:57] <_jeff> are there any girls in here?
[03:58] <XVampireX> Hi
[03:58] <_jeff> out of curiocity
[03:58] <HaxoR91> sup jeff
[03:58] <_jeff> sup hax
[03:58] <_jeff> lol
[03:58] <_jeff> HAX
[03:59] <noch> hey Haxor . . im still getting a failed to start the X server
[04:00] <_chris> hi can someone please tell me how to disable eth0 starting up on boot and instead have ath0 (wireless) start?
[04:00] <Hobbsee> _chris: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[04:01] <robotgeek> _chris: take a look at /etc/network/interfaces, and comment out auto eth0 and add auto ath0
[04:01] <_chris> gotcha
[04:01] <Hobbsee> comment out the line auto eth0, and if there's a line mentioning ath0, add a line above saying auto ath0
[04:01] <Hobbsee> grr @ robotgeek for typing too fast :P
[04:02] <HaxoR91> = )
[04:02] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: heh
[04:02] <_chris> there is only auto lo
[04:02] <bimberi> and with a nick 'nall :)
[04:02] <HaxoR91> hey hobbsee
[04:02] <Hobbsee> ih
[04:02] <Hobbsee> *hi
[04:02] <HaxoR91> remember me/
[04:02] <HaxoR91> ?
[04:02] <_jeff> hey Hobbsee
[04:02] <noch> hey Haxor . . im still getting a failed to start the X server
[04:02] <HaxoR91> hmm
[04:02] <Hobbsee> hi _jeff
[04:02] <HaxoR91> did you type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[04:03] <noch> yea
[04:03] <HaxoR91> then do it again and lower the reoslution
[04:03] <Hobbsee> !+xhangs
[04:03] <HaxoR91> like 1024x768 is good
[04:03] <ubotu> If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority
[04:03] <HaxoR91> !xorg
[04:03] <ubotu> xorg is probably To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[04:03] <_chris> can i just add another auto line or do i append ath0 to the line "auto lo"?
[04:04] <Hobbsee> _chris: another line
[04:05] <_chris> i add "auto ath0" before "iface ath0 inet dhcp"?
[04:05] <robotgeek> _chris: after, i would guess
[04:06] <_chris> *shrugs* ill just reboot and see :) ... the auto lo is before the iface lo .. but ill reboot now
[04:06] <robotgeek> _chris: no, wait
[04:06] <noch> haxoR, that didnt work
[04:06] <_chris> ?
[04:06] <robotgeek> _chris: try "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[04:09] <HaxoR91> hmmm
[04:09] <HaxoR91> !tell noch about xorg
[04:09] <HaxoR91> follow those instructions
[04:10] <noch> im looking at the site now
[04:10] <noch> if that doesnt work ill come back here
[04:10] <noch> thankx for the help so far though
[04:10] <HaxoR91> anytime = )
[04:11] <HaxoR91> does anyone know how to install macromedia flash player on kubuntu?
[04:11] <robotgeek> HaxoR91: flashplayer-nonfree
[04:11] <troy> except if you're on amd64 or ppc :P
[04:11] <HaxoR91> i tried that
[04:12] <robotgeek> troy: yeah, keep forgetting eve ntho i am on ppc
[04:12] <HaxoR91> show me the command
[04:12] <HaxoR91> please
[04:12] <troy> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree
[04:12] <robotgeek> HaxoR91: are you in breezy/dapper?
[04:12] <troy> then scan for plugins in konqueror :)
[04:12] <ice_1963> hmm i wonder when flashplayer 8 will be ready linux?
[04:12] <crimsun> flashplugin-nonfree, please.
[04:13] <crimsun> ice_1963: it won't be, only 8.5
[04:13] <troy> oh,heh
[04:13] <bretzel> hello :-)
[04:13] <HaxoR91> im on breezy
[04:13] <bretzel> How is the live-installer ?
[04:13] <HaxoR91> E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-nonfree
[04:13] <HaxoR91> thats the error
[04:14] <robotgeek> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:14] <HaxoR91> E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[04:15] <HaxoR91> i get the same error
[04:15] <troy> sounds like a source is missing
[04:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> Did you enable universe/multiverse?
[04:15] <HaxoR91> dont know how
[04:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> !repos
[04:15] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:15] <ice_1963> crimsum ok
[04:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> That's how. :)
[04:16] <HaxoR91> im not on uuntu
[04:16] <HaxoR91> ubuntu
[04:17] <ice_1963> i'm on Dubuntu :)
[04:17] <HaxoR91> im on kubuntu
[04:17] <HaxoR91> lol
[04:17] <HaxoR91> dubuntu?
[04:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> HaxoR91: They have the same repos
[04:17] <ice_1963> Deb
[04:18] <HaxoR91> adept?
[04:18] <HaxoR91> didnt even open
[04:18] <HaxoR91> how i open it on terminal?
[04:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:19] <HaxoR91> me?
[04:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yes
[04:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> :)
[04:19] <HaxoR91>  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[04:19] <HaxoR91>  deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[04:20] <HaxoR91> i enabled i enabled those
[04:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> Good
[04:20] <HaxoR91> ok what now?
[04:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> Now press Esc
[04:20] <HaxoR91> ok
[04:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> and type in :wq <enter>
[04:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> Which tells vi to save the file, and quit
[04:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> Then you can use 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree'
[04:22] <HaxoR91> E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-nonfree
[04:22] <crimsun> it's flashplugin-nonfree
[04:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh, sorry
[04:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree'
[04:23] <HaxoR91> E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[04:23] <HaxoR91> didnt work
[04:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> HaxoR91: Give me a minute
[04:24] <HaxoR91> ok
[04:25] <ice_1963> sudo apt-cache srarch flash
[04:25] <HaxoR91> invalid command srarch
[04:25] <HaxoR91> operation i mean
[04:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> ice_1963: I'm doing that, but I don't see flashplayer-nonfree or flashplugin-nonfree
[04:25] <ice_1963> hmm
[04:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> HaxoR91: sudo apt-cache search flash
[04:26] <HaxoR91> ok i saw some searching going on
[04:26] <HaxoR91> redboot and stuff
[04:26] <HaxoR91> what now?
[04:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> That searches your repos for packages with 'flash' in them
[04:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> Aha
[04:26] <HaxoR91> ?
[04:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> Maybe 'sudo apt-get install libflash-mozplugin'
[04:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> Konqueror supports mozilla plugins, right?
[04:27] <HaxoR91> yeah
[04:27] <HaxoR91> i can't check my aim mail on konqueror
[04:28] <HaxoR91> ok its done
[04:28] <HaxoR91> Thank you.
[04:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> First see if it worked. ;)
[04:28] <HaxoR91> still tells me to install flash
[04:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> Did you scan for new plugins?
[04:29] <HaxoR91> oh you mean on firefox?
[04:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> Nope, konqueror
[04:30] <HaxoR91> nah
[04:30] <HaxoR91> doesnt work
[04:30] <HaxoR91> but it worked last time
[04:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> HaxoR91: http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash <-- Try downloading that and installing it manually
[04:33] <duckdown> Hey all.. How could I replace every instance of "word1" with "word2" in a text file?  I always see people on IRC say 's/mistake/proper', where does that apply to?
[04:33] <HaxoR91> ok i downloaded it and saved it to the desktop
[04:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> HaxoR91: OK, extract it
[04:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> duckdown: KWrite :)
[04:34] <Kuku4Kubntu> duckdown: see the command line tool sed
[04:35] <duckdown> CheeseBurgerMan: cool, never thought of that, thanks
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> Or....that
[04:35] <HaxoR91> ok
[04:35] <HaxoR91> then?
[04:35] <duckdown> Kuku4Kubntu: Cool, it looks complicated though :s
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> hehe, the simplest things are hardest to find. :)
[04:35] <duckdown> :)
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> HaxoR91: Open a terminal and navigate to the directoy you extracted it to
[04:36] <Kuku4Kubntu> anyone try to install Kubuntu 6.06 Beta from Live CD?
[04:36] <HaxoR91> ok
[04:36] <HaxoR91> cd ~/Desktop
[04:36] <HaxoR91> right?
[04:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> HaxoR91: I dunno, are the files you extracted on your desktop?
[04:37] <troy> Kuku4Kubntu: no, but I'm about to do it this hour :)
[04:37] <HaxoR91> yup
[04:37] <duckdown> brb
[04:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> Then yes.
[04:37] <HaxoR91> then type?
[04:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> ./i <tab>
[04:37] <HaxoR91> ./install_flash_player_7_linux: ./install_flash_player_7_linux: is a directory
[04:38] <HaxoR91> is that good?
[04:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> The type cd install_flash_player_7_linux
[04:38] <HaxoR91> ok
[04:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> Then ./i<tab>
[04:38] <HaxoR91> this is what i see
[04:38] <HaxoR91> suspect@suspect:~/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux$
[04:39] <HaxoR91> is that a good thing?
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, that means you're in the ~/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux folder
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> Which is where the installer is located, so yes, it's a good thing.
[04:39] <HaxoR91> ok
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> So type in ./i <tab>
[04:39] <HaxoR91> then what do i type?
[04:39] <Kuku4Kubntu> I tried to install the kubuntu beta from live cd but the installer crashed
[04:40] <HaxoR91> theres nothing in qwith i
[04:40] <Kuku4Kubntu> I opened a bug at launchpad.net. I just want to see if anyone else ran into it too
[04:40] <HaxoR91> nvm
[04:41] <HaxoR91> still doesnt work
[04:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> What happens?
[04:41] <ice_1963> is there a why to jest install like kde-core?
[04:41] <HaxoR91> still tells me to install macromedia flash player
[04:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> um
[04:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> did you finish running the script?
[04:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> First you have to scroll through about a million pages of license agreement, then you've gotta type 'y' a few times.
[04:43] <_jeff> i keep getting mime type errors
[04:43] <troy> ice_1963: kdecore as in the library, or a basic kde install?
[04:43] <_jeff> application/oct something
[04:44] <ice_1963> \troy: yes jest kde-core
[04:44] <troy> ice_1963: well, if you just want the library kdecore.so, the package kdelibs will have what you need
[04:45] <troy> however kdelibs doesn't have any apps in it, so it's only useful if you want to say, use a kde app in gnome
[04:46] <ice_1963> troy:t-u
[04:47] <_jeff> does anybody know why i get mime type errors?
[04:47] <temi> Hey is there a way to crash a frozen program?
[04:48] <temi> like ctr alt del for linux
[04:48] <_jeff> is there a way to see all processes fromt eh console?
[04:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ctrl + Esc
[04:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh
[04:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> From the console...I'm not sure. :\
[04:48] <_jeff> hmm
[04:48] <temi> well i have a program and its frozen
[04:48] <Kuku4Kubntu> ps aux
[04:48] <temi> i wanna close it
[04:48] <Kuku4Kubntu> top
[04:48] <_jeff> i want to be able to see and end processes from the console
[04:48] <Kuku4Kubntu> ps aux or top to list process
[04:48] <Kuku4Kubntu> to kill a graphical process
[04:49] <Kuku4Kubntu> xkill
[04:49] <brandon_> _jeff: what kind of mime type errors are you getting?
[04:50] <_jeff> brandon_: application/oct(something)
[04:50] <brandon_> when you're trying to do what?
[04:50] <_jeff> pretty much anything
[04:50] <_jeff> i got them with kopete a minute ago, and konversation
[04:54] <temi> How do i close a frozen program?
[04:54] <Kuku4Kubuntu> frosen gui program? or frozen console program?
[04:54] <temi> gui
[04:55] <troy> _jeff: I'd suggest logging out and back in - sounds like kde's mimetype database needs to be rebuild
[04:55] <troy> there's a command for it, but I can't recall it :/
[04:55] <Hobbsee> temi: ctrl+escape, click on program
[04:55] <Kuku4Kubuntu> try xkil
[04:55] <temi> i cant find the program in ctrl esc
[04:55] <temi> ooh
[04:55] <temi> nm
[04:55] <Kuku4Kubuntu> then click on that program's window
[04:55] <brandon_> troy: i can vaguely remember that too, but i can't htink of the command
[04:55] <Hobbsee> temi: ok, alt+f2, xkill, enter, click on program
[04:55] <troy> something like kbuildsycoca --rebuild
[04:56] <temi> thats pretty neat
[04:56] <Kuku4Kubuntu> xkill, typo
[04:56] <Hobbsee> temi: yep :D
[04:56] <kosh> it even looks cool
[04:56] <temi> hm
[04:56] <troy> CTRL-ALT-ESC will give you xkill without having to type it
[04:56] <kosh> you just click on the app with a skull and crossbones :)
[04:56] <temi> me it goes to shut down
[04:56] <Hobbsee> yeah, but that kills everything
[04:56] <temi> ya, now that i closed my background hehe
[04:57] <kosh> ctrl-alt-esc does not kill everything, it just runs xkill
[04:57] <troy> Hobbsee: no, CTRL-ALT-BKSPC kills everything
[04:57] <Hobbsee> temi: in a terminal, type kdesktop
[04:57] <kosh> ctrl-alt-backspace kills everything
[04:57] <temi> not me
[04:57] <Hobbsee> oh..of ocurse...oops
[04:57] <temi> is there a way to open your background agian?
[04:57] <Hobbsee> temi: in a terminal, type kdesktop
[04:57] <temi> thank you :)
[04:58] <troy> it gets really hard to do it kdesktop and kwin are both crashed though :)
you are getting these very simple commands confused, it should be easy to remember all the thousands of different keyboards combinations to do stuff ;)</joke>
[04:58] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:58] <temi> liol
[04:59] <troy> anyway, rebooting to the live cd of dapper beta, probably to install it -- wish me luck
[04:59] <kosh> may the source be with you :)
[05:01] <ice_1963> troy: let me know how it gos ok
[05:03] <HaxoR91> ok so i'll see ya tommorow
[05:03] <ghostdog> is kcontrol broken?
[05:04] <ghostdog> I just can't upgrade in dapper
[05:04] <ice_1963> well i'm going to install dapper beta and have some fun to night :)
[05:05] <Kuku4Kubuntu> let us know if it works
[05:05] <ice_1963> ok
[05:05] <ghostdog> nobody with kcontrol broken in dapper?
[05:06] <Hobbsee> ghostdog: yeah, it's broken
[05:06] <ghostdog> is there an older version I can go back to?
[05:06] <ghostdog> to run kde again?
[05:08] <Hobbsee> kde isnt running with it?
[05:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> It ran when I used the live CD a couple hours ago
[05:08] <ghostdog> nope it breaks the whole upgrade
[05:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> I didn't use kcontrol though, so can't say anything about  that.
[05:09] <ghostdog> if I can dpkg -i an older kcontrol , I can continue configuring the other packages
[05:09] <ghostdog> :(
[05:09] <duckdown> Hey all, quick question, every time I 'su' to another user and try to run an x program as them it tells me it can't connect to the X server.. I know its an easy fix, I think I have to add something to the 'su' line; how do I fix it?
[05:09] <ghostdog> xhost +
[05:09] <ghostdog> then when you are done xhost -
[05:10] <duckdown> sweet, let me try, thanks
[05:10] <Kuku4Kubuntu> i like to use kdesu
[05:10] <ghostdog> I want my kde :(
[05:10] <duckdown> hrm, that didnt work
[05:11] <duckdown> when I do xhost + it says some stuff, like No Protocol specified
[05:11] <duckdown> can't connect to 0:0
[05:11] <duckdown> whats this kdesu
[05:11] <Kuku4Kubuntu> its a kde wrapper around su
[05:11] <Kuku4Kubuntu> i am not sure it will work like you need it
[05:11] <Kuku4Kubuntu> but it cant hurt to try
[05:12] <kosh> ghostdog: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/40393
[05:12] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 40393 in kdebase kcontrol "Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu9 crashes during post-installation" [Normal,Confirmed] 
[05:12] <kosh> ghostdog: it is a pretty easy workaround
[05:12] <kosh> ghostdog: you will want to do sudo vim /var/lib/dpkg/info/kcontrol.postinst   and then just put a # in front of the lines they have indicated
[05:13] <ghostdog> thanks I will give that a try
[05:14] <kosh> ghostdog: I just ran into the exact same problem here and that is the answer I used
[05:14] <kosh> ghostdog: one you comment those lines just run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:15] <ghostdog> greatly appreciate it, looks like it went through
[05:15] <ghostdog> will I have to revert back later?
[05:16] <ghostdog> uncomment out the lines?
[05:17] <ghostdog> anyways. thankis
[05:17] <kosh> nah you don't have to revert them back later
[05:17] <Seantater> are bots (that do not talk except to answer a command) allowed here, other than ubotu?
[05:19] <Hobbsee> Seantater: what kind of bot are you thinking of?
[05:19] <Seantater> I've got a supybot going right now
[05:20] <Seantater> supybot.com
[05:20] <Seantater> It does not know much right know, and I;d like to knwo if it;s allowed here before I "teach" it the world
[05:21] <rr72> who uses courier?
[05:22] <Seantater> what is courirr?
[05:22] <Seantater> what is courier?
[05:22] <rr72> then u don't use it
[05:22] <Seantater> I do not know, I jight be unaware if it a deamon, etc
[05:22] <Hobbsee> rr72: you mean the ms font?
[05:23] <rr72> when someone comes along and they use it then you will find out
[05:23] <rr72> if it were font would i be in this chan?
[05:23] <Hobbsee> Seantater: i doubt it is, unless it has a specific reason to be here
[05:23] <kosh> courier is a mail server service however I don't know much more about it then that
[05:23] <Hobbsee> ah...
[05:23] <rr72> rats
[05:23] <rr72> thats all u know about it?
[05:23] <rr72> i would like to learn and use it
[05:24] <rr72> prolly tmorrow night tho
[05:24] <rr72> busy, going to bed soon
[05:24] <kosh> well I know that is has some kind of a db that it uses to store email, that it provides pop and imap in regular and ssl modes
[05:24] <kosh> that it is supposed to be a pretty efficient mail server for larger setups
[05:25] <kosh> however for a small mail server setup it is overkill and something like postfix is probably better
[05:25] <rr72> i don't even know how to get it to do basic stuff
[05:25] <rr72> but postfix doesnt have pop3 support does it?
[05:26] <kosh> not precisely, you normally would run a regular pop3 or imap daemon with it of which there are many
[05:26] <kosh> courier is an all in one approach
[05:26] <kosh> postfix is just the mail server approach not the pop or imap parts
[05:26] <rr72> so what do u suggest i use for a pop server for with postfix?
[05:27] <me2win> anyone from sweden in here?
[05:28] <kosh> rr72: do a search for pop3d there are a number of programs that turn up I don't know which is the best
[05:28] <rr72> i just do a apth-cache search but which one is easy to use and quick to set-up
[05:28] <kosh> I am using popa3d which seems to work fine
[05:31] <rr72> ty i will be on tomorrow for longer to get more info
[05:45] <troy> umm, the espresso-kdeui installer is busted for me (at least the amd64 version is) - anyone else notice this?
[05:46] <Kuku4Kubuntu> yes
[05:46] <Kuku4Kubuntu> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/espresso/+bug/40464
[05:46] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 40464 in espresso "espresso crashes on partitioning step in Kubuntu 6.06 LTS Beta Live CD" [Normal,Unconfirmed] 
[05:46] <Kuku4Kubuntu> i filed a bug
[05:46] <troy> I'll second it
[05:48] <troy> Kuku4Kubuntu: where is the espresso log file stored (wants to attach it also)
[05:49] <Kuku4Kubuntu> troy: /var/log/installer
[05:49] <Kuku4Kubuntu> file is espresso
[05:55] <troy> okay, I've submitted under your bug including my log - I'll try to install it the old fashioned way :)
[05:55] <troy> live cd is nice though :)
[05:56] <Kuku4Kubuntu> kool
[05:57] <troy> be back in a reboot
[06:19] <Hobbsee> heh, bye Mez
[06:27] <anubis> hoola
[06:31] <anubis> hi?
[06:33] <Hobbsee> hi
[06:34] <anubis> i`m a new kubuntu user (just left mandriva)
[06:34] <Hobbsee> ooh fun
[06:34] <anubis> but have some problems
[06:35] <anubis> my ati seems not to be working
[06:35] <farous> anubis what do you mean is it 3d accel
[06:36] <Hobbsee> !+ati
[06:36] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[06:37] <anubis> in the kinfocenter my opengl definitely is not working, and seems like kubuntu detected a NV driver... what sould I do?
[06:41] <farous> anubis: can you tell me what the following command output is cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Driver
[06:42] <farous> or use the paste bin to paste the contents of the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:42] <lasindi[lappy] > I have plugged in a second display to my laptop. Is there a way to make the screen also appear on the second display?
[06:42] <farous> lasindi[lappy] : normally restart x and it will work
[06:42] <anubis>        Driver          "kbd"
[06:42] <anubis>         Driver          "mouse"
[06:42] <anubis>         Driver          "vesa"
[06:42] <lasindi[lappy] > farous: I had it plugged in before I started the machine
[06:42] <farous> anubis: do you know your card exactly
[06:43] <anubis> msi ati rx300 pcie
[06:43] <anubis> (model td128e)
[06:44] <farous> lasindi[lappy] : mm it should have worked automatically. otherwise you need to configure it. search the forums on dual-head and xinerama
[06:44] <farous> anubis: give me a min then
[06:45] <anubis> ok there is no rush, i`ll be  downloading stuff for a while, so i save this conversarion to try later
[06:46] <farous> cool
[06:46] <farous> one question anubis are you baladiat ?
[06:46] <Hobbsee> anubis: you're from #kde right?
[06:47] <Hobbsee> and female, IIRC
[06:47] <anubis> oh yeah
[06:47] <anubis> no i`m not
[06:48] <Hobbsee> oh ok...
[06:48] <Hobbsee> must have been someone else there
[06:48] <anubis> yeah that`s it
[06:48] <Hobbsee> but i did recognise the nick, couldnt figure out where from from ages though...
[06:48] <Hobbsee> *from for
[06:48] <anubis> i`m from Argentina
[06:49] <anubis> but mostly a 3d animator, not a programmer or a exper linux user
[06:51] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[06:53] <anubis> in other debian distros there was this alien command or something, for install RPMS (I have tons of those) how can I install them here? (dapper 64)
[06:53] <farous> it is not recommeded anubis
[06:53] <farous> you can always find a natieve package
[06:53] <anubis> cinelerra64? can`t find it
[06:54] <farous> but ubuntu is debian based so the alien command will work
[06:54] <farous> anubis better download the source package and install from source
[06:55] <anubis> I give it a try but never had good results compiling myself :(
[06:55] <farous> you need to install the package build-essential
[06:55] <farous> read the readme file an all will be fine
[06:57] <anubis> ohhh!!! that`s what e-build means!!!
[06:57] <Hobbsee> !+alien
[06:57] <ubotu> I guess alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[06:57] <Hobbsee> !+compile
[06:57] <ubotu> A nice howto about compiling software from source code can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (but remember to search !apt first, after adding all the !repos)
[06:58] <anubis> thanks man
[06:59] <anubis> compiling, is the same for x64 ?
[06:59] <Hobbsee> yes
[07:00] <anubis> but it compiles in 32 or 64 bits? that depends on the package or what?
[07:02] <Hobbsee> it should compile for whatever arch you're using, i expect
[07:06] <anubis> i see
[07:06] <farous> anubis: just a tip install gcc 3.3 or 3.4 as most programs will still only compile on those two only
[07:06] <farous> not the newer ver ubuntu use
[07:06] <anubis> ah ok i`ll do that
[07:15] <noaXess_kubuntu> hi Hobbsee
[07:15] <Hobbsee> hi noaXess_kubuntu
[07:16] <noaXess_kubuntu> wasup today on kubuntu?.. some difficult guys? :] 
[07:17] <Hobbsee> hasnt been much that's happened in #kubuntu from an ops perspective - plenty in #ubuntu though
[07:18] <noaXess_kubuntu> yesterday evening.. HE.. exca...bur has asked some crazy question here.. about kernel desktop and installing gentoo on a kubuntu machine?? .. lol
[07:21] <Hobbsee> noaXess_kubuntu: exca?  excalliber or something?
[07:21] <noaXess_kubuntu> Hobbsee: yeah.. mean the guy.. excalibur with his installed dapper and problem starting X or whatever
[07:22] <Hobbsee> noaXess_kubuntu: ah yes, i dealt with that.
[07:34] <troy> where do I report a bug in dapper beta related to adept?
[07:38] <Hobbsee> !+bug
[07:38] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[07:38] <Hobbsee> troy:
[07:39] <Hobbsee> troy: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bugs
[07:39] <troy> I'm making one now :)
[07:40] <Zaire> how do you get kubuntu to not lock up when you log in
[07:42] <Zaire> this is a serious question lol
[07:44] <Hobbsee> Zaire: ah, define lockup, and are there any error messages?
[07:44] <Zaire> nope it just locks up
[07:44] <Hobbsee> !+xhangs
[07:44] <ubotu> If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority
[07:44] <Zaire> works for maybe 30 seconds
[07:45] <Zaire> I would cept my keyboard locks up to
[07:45] <Zaire> Im stuck on mandriva at the moment
[07:45] <kosh> kubuntu locks up when you log in?
[07:45] <Zaire> yep
[07:45] <Hobbsee> Zaire: log into a virtual terminal, do those bits, and then try logging in via gui
[07:46] <kosh> one thing I have found through a lot of trial and error is that my weird problems with kdm where from the kubuntu-default-settings package, if I remove that I no longer get weird stuff from my desktop on the kdm screen, if I add it back in I do immediately
[07:47] <kosh> and that is with the packages purged and all config files deleted for kdm
[07:47] <Hobbsee> er...that's weird
[07:47] <kosh> I still have to isolate it so I can report a bug
[07:47] <kosh> anybody know of a way to take a screenshot of kdm?
[07:48] <kosh> actually quite a lot of weird things vanish for me without kubuntu-default-settings removed
[07:49] <Zaire> if it helps my Mobo is a foxconn socket 754, AMD Sempron 64 3100+, and a Nvidia Gefore FX 5200 128 meg DDR
[07:51] <Zaire> I know with redhat and debian I had to change the Xconfigs for my card but I tried that with kubuntu and the GUI ceased to load completely lol
[07:56] <kosh> you probably made a mistake
[07:56] <kosh> look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:06] <kubuntutaotao> do somebody know why my kaffeine can't start
[08:08] <lasindi[lappy] > Hi all, I'm to get a second display hooked up to my laptop working. I've been told to google for dual-head and Kubuntu, and I got this howto (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=155762), but it's very complicated and I get a compile error when I do it. Is there an easier way to configure this? (The only reason I'm asking is that Ubuntu generally makes this stuff so easy that I'm really surprised it takes this much effort.)
[08:23] <bpm> morgen
[08:24] <bpm> good morning
[08:24] <bpm> sorry forgot that this is an english channel
[08:57] <noaXess_kubuntu> with amarok, how can i enable crossfading? sorry if this is the wrong place, sende me to the right ;)
[08:57] <noaXess_kubuntu> !amarok
[08:57] <ubotu> I guess amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[09:01] <Bruno> hi folks!
[09:01] <robotgeek> hey
[09:01] <Bruno> Does anybody here knows how can I install joe's own editor on my just installed kubuntu pc?
[09:02] <robotgeek> Bruno: install it via adept
[09:02] <Bruno> how can I do that?
[09:02] <Bruno> I am kinda noobie :P
[09:02] <robotgeek> or "sudo apt-get install joe" in a terminal
[09:03] <Bruno> hmmm... i tried that already.
[09:03] <Bruno> It doesn't find joe
[09:03] <Bruno> :(
[09:03] <robotgeek> Bruno: you need to enable the universe repo
[09:03] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Bruno about repos
[09:03] <Bruno> ok then
[09:09] <Bruno> OMG! Thank you robotgeek! Worked like a charm!! :D
[09:10] <Bruno> Gotta go to bed now!! nn folks!
[09:10] <me2win> lol
[09:10] <me2win> thank and run
[09:11] <mindspin> 9 minutes to get his problem solved
[09:21] <serzh> Hi! Can you suggest me KDE analog of Stardict - http://stardict.sourceforge.net/
[09:24] <noiesmo> serzh, you could use  alien that will convert rpm to deb package but it can cause problems
[09:24] <serzh> I mean program, that uses qt/kde libraries
[09:24] <serzh> I'm already using it that way
[09:25] <noiesmo> serzh, cool sorry dont know
[09:48] <bpm> is tomcat available from a kubuntu repositorie?
[09:49] <me2win> i believe it is
[09:49] <bpm> where?
[09:49] <bpm> i can?t find it
[09:50] <me2win> pkg is called tomcat5
[09:50] <me2win> also need tomcat5-admin and tomcat5-webapps
[09:51] <me2win> bpm: its in universe
[09:53] <berkes> hello hello. will kubuntu 6 ship with koffice 1.5 too?
[09:53] <berkes> im trying to figure out if it makes sense for me to upgrade, or to wait for the stable release.
[09:53] <bpm> i had all repos uncommented in my source.list but i don?t see any tomcat package in adept
[09:53] <me2win> berkes: not sure, its still beta software, if it gets a final release before june 1st it MIGHT
[09:54] <me2win> bpm: did you update?
[09:54] <bpm> yes
[09:54] <me2win> are you on breezy or dapper?
[09:54] <bpm> breezy
[09:54] <bhna> bpm apt-cache search tomcat
[09:54] <me2win> thats why
[09:54] <me2win> i dont think its in the breezy repos
[09:54] <me2win> its in the dapper ones though
[09:55] <bpm> there are only the apache connector for tomcat
[09:56] <bpm> i don?t want to install dapper as long as it is in beta
[09:56] <bhna> berkes: koffice 1.5 is in the dapper repo on the cd is only koffice-libs and krita
[09:57] <bpm> has anyone a deb-package for tomcat?
[09:57] <me2win> http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:00] <bpm> or is there another servletcontainer in kubuntu?
[10:02] <bpm> is it possible to install from a dapper repo?
[10:03] <chavo> bpm, there's no net install
[10:06] <bpm> hmmmm
[10:07] <chavo> only one iso needed for install though
[10:08] <me2win> bpm: if you go to packages.ubuntu.com, you can find the tomcat packages you need from the dapper repos
[10:08] <chavo> oh i just got here thought you were asking about net install
[10:09] <me2win> chavo: no you were right
[10:09] <me2win> chavo: i was talking to him about a previous question
[10:09] <chavo> ok
[10:12] <bpm> so i have to download all the depended packages?
[10:13] <me2win> bpm: when you download that one pkg, i think it downloads the dependencys also
[10:13] <me2win> but
[10:13] <me2win> !lamp
[10:13] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:13] <me2win> at the bottom of that wiki guide, there are some instructions on install tomcat5 im sure
[10:16] <bpm> where is this wiki guide?
[10:17] <me2win> bpm: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:22] <bpm> thx
[10:55] <morrow> !dualhead
[10:55] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, morrow
[10:56] <noaXess_kubuntu> how can i enable crossfading in amarok?
[10:57] <berkes> noaXess_kubuntu: only certain sound engines allow that
[10:57] <berkes> which one do you use, noaXess_kubuntu ?
[10:57] <noaXess_kubuntu> berkes: gstreamer0.8
[10:58] <berkes> noaXess_kubuntu: sec. I am looking it up for you.
[10:58] <noaXess_kubuntu> berkes: okey..
[10:58] <solan> can any1 help with mysql? I'm trying to add a user with mysql_setpermission, but I get the message that the table mysql.user doesn't excist....?!
[10:58] <berkes> noaXess_kubuntu: under settings >> player settings, what do you see?
[10:59] <noaXess_kubuntu> berkes: i haven't settings > player settings.. i have amarok 1.3.1 on kubuntu breezy 5.10
[11:00] <berkes> noaXess_kubuntu: me too, but I have dutch locales, so I have to guess the english names.
[11:00] <berkes> noaXess_kubuntu: the third options in the icon bar on the left of the settings panel, what does that say?
[11:01] <berkes> ah, no, sorry, I think amarok 1.3.1 does not yet support xfading.
[11:03] <noaXess_kubuntu> berkes: ( (
[11:03] <noaXess_kubuntu> :(
[11:03] <berkes> noaXess_kubuntu: but what do you see there?
[11:05] <berkes> hmm. got to go.
[11:07] <mak> hi everyone. i have got a little problem. How can i play mp3 with amarok or the gstreamer?
[11:08] <berkes> http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s
[11:12] <morrow> hmmm somehow dualhead is not working anymore in dapper.. it tries to display the applications on both heads (and it is not configured as clone mode, i can see two different kde running on diplays 0.0 and 0.1) :/
[11:24] <solan> need help with mysql, mysql.user doesn't excists.....?!?!
[11:35] <XVampireX> Hi
[11:35] <XVampireX> I'm wondering, can Windows users access network computers who run linux?
[11:35] <epinephrine> yes
[11:36] <XVampireX> kubuntu in that case
[11:36] <XVampireX> How?
[11:36] <epinephrine> with samba
[11:36] <XVampireX> My brother can't see me on the network
[11:36] <XVampireX> Oh, samba
[11:36] <epinephrine> never set it up on kubuntu before, but you can do it
[11:36] <XVampireX> Yeah, well, I'm sure I can use the KDE applet
[11:36] <XVampireX> Faster than samba
[11:37] <XVampireX> But I was thinking if something like windows to windows is possible
[11:38] <XVampireX> But thanks, epinephrine!
[12:20] <tomplast> hi, is there anyone here with authority on the kubuntu project? I would like to make an suggestion for kubuntu/uubuntu
[12:22] <_harm> why dont u share it with us 1st?
[12:22] <mindspin> ;-)
[12:23] <Tm_T> tomplast: yeah, just spit it out
[12:23] <tomplast> Tm_T: i got this idea of maybe creating a money pool that could be used in dev.
[12:24] <Tm_T> tomplast: ...go on
[12:24] <tomplast> like, most people do this for free but if there was money some people could work dedicated on a chosen task for a longer period
[12:25] <Tm_T> tomplast: true
[12:25] <_harm> tomplast Novell has this..
[12:25] <Tm_T> tomplast: now I expect you to tell where the moneu
[12:25] <Tm_T> money
[12:25] <tomplast> i dont have that much money but I would give some money to such a pool :)
[12:25] <Tm_T> tomplast: ah, some kind of funraiser maybe?!
[12:25] <tomplast> and i think that people would like to contribue  financial to see a better system
[12:25] <Tm_T> fund even
[12:25] <tomplast> yeah, for chosen projects
[12:25] <Tm_T> huh
[12:26] <_harm> i would do a striptease on street and donate that money to ubuntu
[12:26] <Tm_T> _harm: please do, I need food =)
[12:26] <tomplast> chosen tasks, like porting an application or creating some tool or osmething
[12:26] <_harm> i seriouslly might.. a friend of mine as a video camera. And i mean jackass party boy stuff :P that was gr8
[12:26] <tomplast> :p
[12:27] <Tm_T> tomplast: there's some idea, but I don't think there's poit to collect money for little tasks, but Kubuntu overall is ok
[12:27] <_harm> i prefer KDE over Gnome
[12:27] <_harm> but i wat the glx thing :D
[12:27] <_harm> want*
[12:27] <Kev1n> anyone tried kaffeine 0.8.2 as yet with dvb tv support?
[12:28] <Tm_T> _harm: ...you mean Xgl?
[12:28] <tomplast> Tm_T: yeah, but how do you proceed with this? will you proceed with this?
[12:28] <_harm> Tm_T yes
[12:28] <Tm_T> tomplast: Riddell is the man, poke him ;)
[12:28] <tomplast> Tm_T: i will, thanks
[12:29] <_harm> Tm_T i also still need to get my videocard working properly.. i cant play games @ all =[
[12:29] <Tm_T> _harm: err, what video card?
[12:29] <_harm> Tm_T Ati Radeon 9200SE
[12:29] <Tm_T> _harm: should work well
[12:30] <_harm> Tm_T not wth games.. i tried getting one of those new drivers but still doesnt work well
[12:30] <_harm> Tm_T like it freezes for 20seconds and then runs for a couple o seconds before freezing
[12:30] <Tm_T> _harm: err, what "new drivers"
[12:31] <_harm> Tm_T the onces which support 3d acceleration
[12:31] <Tm_T> _harm: and you got one from where?
[12:31] <Tm_T> hmm
[12:31] <Tm_T> !ati
[12:31] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[12:32] <_harm> Tm_T yah the /ATI one
[12:33] <Tm_T> well, humm
[12:33] <Tm_T> it should work
[12:33] <_harm> i doesnt :S
[12:33] <_harm> ill retry
[01:00] <camel> witam
[01:01] <camel> is anybidy here ??
[01:09] <Hairback357> hello
[01:26] <captainredbeard> is there anyway to change which side new files appear on the desktop?
[01:26] <captainredbeard> I want stuff like dvds and any new files I place on the desktop to appear on the right hand side, as opposed to the left, where I have superkaramba themes runngin
[01:31] <_etechnik> rr
[01:31] <etechnik> hallo
[01:31] <etechnik> wie geht's
[01:31] <_etechnik> jojo
[01:31] <HymnToLife> !tell etechnik about de
[01:31] <etechnik> sonnne
[01:34] <captainredbeard> is there anyway to change which side new files appear on the desktop?
[01:35] <ramvi> Heya. How do I use two monitors? I'm using the newest dapper version and I see the option in System Settings > Display
[01:36] <ramvi> But I'm not allowed to Apply any new settings
[01:36] <ramvi> My seconday screen is "unknown". I try to set it, but I can't accept
[01:37] <ramvi> It tells me that my freq: is - 25k or something
[01:37] <ramvi> Anyone know what to do?
[01:41] <ramvi> Please?
[01:41] <dbakker> I just got Xgl to work and noticed that a few kde applications crash the xgl server. Anyone know of a fix?
[01:44] <ubuntu_> Riddell: I am running the Kubuntu BETA and guess at the samples I noticed a small but anoyying bug, can not open the sample file with amarok
[01:45] <Paavo> I can't build 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu0breezy1 from source - it breaks on "Trying patch debian/patches/common/kubuntu_01_kdepot.diff at level 0...1...2...failure." Ideas?
[01:45] <Paavo> ...and the package I'm talking about is kdebase.
[01:47] <xanax`> hello
[01:49] <Paavo> Correction: After cleaning the directory, it now breaks with error "Trying patch debian/patches/kubuntu_05_kdm_theme_config.diff at level 0...1...2...failure.". The source package is from http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35
[01:49] <zara_thustra> hi!
[01:49] <Riddell> ubuntu_: which file?
[01:50] <ubuntu_> Riddell: just a min to look at it's name
[01:50] <ubuntu_> Riddell: wonderland_ch_01.
[01:50] <ubuntu_> spx
[01:50] <ramvi> I installed two font sets as explained on easylinux.info. msfonts and one more. and cached them. That changed all the default fonts in kde
[01:50] <ramvi> is there a way to go back?
[01:51] <ramvi> to the fonts I got with kubuntu dapper
[01:51] <nico8481> hi
[01:54] <NRG88> hi, i've installed a usplash theme, I remember having to reconfigure kernel headers or what for the changes to take place
[01:54] <NRG88> any ideea?
[01:54] <ramvi> hehe, I feel so ignored
[01:55] <ubuntu_> Riddell: what do you think can I install the BETA, is it stable enough? I am running it from the live cd now
[01:55] <paran> NRG88: you probably need to run update-initramfs
[01:55] <NRG88> ok, thanks paran
[01:56] <Dru> afternoon all
[01:56] <NRG88> sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[01:56] <NRG88> found it :D
[01:57] <paran> ramvi: this one? http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Extra_Fonts
[01:58] <ramvi> paran: yeah, that's the once I installed. Now all my kde default fonts are changed
[01:58] <ramvi> paran: the kde-menu text. everything
[01:58] <ramvi> It's small and tiny
[01:58] <ramvi> I don't like it :p
[01:59] <paran> ramvi: one way would be to remove the new fonts. for example "apt-get remove msttcorefonts"
[01:59] <paran> ramvi: or you can just customize what font you like KDE to use
[01:59] <Dru> Hmmmmm may give the 6.06 LTS Beta a whirl
[02:00] <paran> ramvi: KDE System Settings -> Apperance -> Fonts (on Dapper, don't remember if it is on the same place in Breezy)
[02:01] <ramvi> paran: can you be an angel and tell me the default values?
[02:01] <dipnlik> anytime i run opengl apps like the opengl screensavers or osnes9x or zsnes, my system freezes. i use a radeon 9250. any ideas?
[02:01] <ramvi> :)
[02:01] <ramvi> They're all set to Dejavu sense 9
[02:01] <ramvi> sans*
[02:02] <dipnlik> ramvi: i recommend dejavu sans condensed :)
[02:02] <paran> ramvi: there is a button that set all values to default
[02:02] <gigabytes> hi all
[02:02] <Dru> lo gigabytes
[02:02] <ramvi> paran: Well, you're right! ;) Thanks =)
[02:02] <paran> ramvi: I seem to have DejaVu Sans 9.
[02:03] <gigabytes> I've some problems with installing kubuntu 5.10 on a pentium M notebook
[02:03] <bipolar> Does anyone know why the dapper version of kcontrol give me this when upgrading? subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:03] <gigabytes> when I select "choose the timezone" the system hangs
[02:03] <ralf> ->bipolar: Same as mine
[02:03] <ramvi> paran: I guess it was apt-get dist-upgrade that did it
[02:03] <bipolar> ralf: I guess it's a broken package.
[02:04] <NewpZ> hi how do i tell which kernel package i have installed? like if its -i386 or i686, i need to get the correct headers
[02:04] <bipolar> ah, well. Maybe it will be fixed by the time I get to the office :P
[02:05] <bipolar> NewpZ: uname -r
[02:05] <NewpZ> -r
[02:05] <NewpZ> ahh
[02:05] <bipolar> NewpZ: you can use that as part of the apt-get command too
[02:05] <gigabytes> someone can help me
[02:05] <bipolar> NewpZ: apt-get install kernel-headers-`uname -r`
[02:05] <NewpZ> sweet thanks
[02:06] <bipolar> NewpZ: it's best to install the headers metapackage for your arch, so that it gets upgraded with the kernel.
[02:06] <bipolar> NewpZ: like, kernel-headers-686 or some such.
[02:06] <bipolar> kernel-headers-2.6-686, rather... :P
[02:07] <ralf> kubuntu dapper has some probs with DV camcorder, ieee1394 and dvgrab / kino.
[02:07] <cromo> did anyone manage to run xgl on kubuntu with fglrx drivers?
[02:07] <ralf> kino has AVC status errors and dvgrab finds no cam. gscanbus did find it.
[02:08] <NewpZ> im just building  the cisco vpn client
[02:08] <NewpZ> and that can always prove to be fun enough :)
[02:12] <BluesKaj> owdy
[02:15] <BluesKaj> nyone using streamtuner in dapper flight 6
[02:15] <otter42> Dumb question, but does anyone have the source files for ffmpeg? The firewall at work won't let me access cvs repositories
[02:16] <HymnToLife> otter42> I guess you can download it manually on pakages.ubuntu.com
[02:17] <otter42> HymnToLife: wouldn't that be the deb package, and not the sources?
[02:17] <HymnToLife> you can download the sources too
[02:19] <paran> NewpZ: you almost never ever need to have the kernel headers for your exact kernel version installed.
[02:19] <BluesKaj> streamtuner anyone ?
[02:19] <HymnToLife> BluesKaj> please go to #ubuntu+1 for dapper issues
[02:19] <BluesKaj> thx
[02:19] <paran> NewpZ: the default package linux-kernel-headers work just fine
[02:24] <dipnlik> hi all. how do i change the font nicotine uses in kde?
[02:31] <Riddell> ubotu: don't install with the live CD installer
[02:31] <ubotu> Riddell: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:32] <xanax`> Has someone already released a kubuntu "image" for vmware player ?
[02:32] <dbakker> any1 know how to find out what version/release of kde im running
[02:35] <Terminus> dbakker: dpkg -l|grep kde
[02:42] <Dru> anyone know the command to install Gnome onto a Kubuntu install I have 510 Kubuntu installed & would like to try the Gnome setup
[02:42] <dbakker> any1 know where kde logs?
[02:43] <dipnlik> Dru: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:43] <LeeJunFan> xanax`: after trying linux in vmware on windows I'd rather not see it released to the general public, it'll give the layperson a bad image of linux being slow, accelerated graphics not existing and not being able to play music w/o skipping.
[02:44] <xanax`> i am not an "average joe" linux user
[02:44] <xanax`> but i understand your point
[02:44] <Dru> many thanks
[02:45] <chx> i am trying to dist-upgrade to beta. kcontrol - kde-systemsettings - konqueror configuration stops with dependency problems
[02:45] <Dru> more tha liklly will prefer kde but will give it a go
[02:45] <ralf> Have I to use iMovie or can anyone help me with kino not finding the DV Camcorder?
[02:46] <ralf> chx: Mine broken too, looks like they have to build a new one. Gone tomorrow?
[02:46] <xanax`> LeeJunFan : can I talk to you in private ?
[02:47] <chx> ralf: will the system work in this state?
[02:48] <ralf> chx: Yes as you can see. The old pack are still in use.
[02:49] <LeeJunFan> xanax`: yeah
[02:51] <BluesKaj> no one in ubuntu +1 is answering my question about streamtuner ...too busy doing their geek script talk thing
[02:57] <BluesKaj> /quit
[03:04] <mchasard> hi
[03:04] <Hobbsee> hi
[03:04] <mchasard> i just tried yesterday kubuntu 606
[03:05] <mchasard> interesting but is there a way to save config on a usb key  ?
[03:05] <Hobbsee> er....
[03:05] <Hobbsee> no idea
[03:06] <mchasard> i know till dappler theres a tool for that ...
[03:07] <Hobbsee> is that a part of espresso?
[03:08] <mchasard> hum no i don't believe that but i had seen that in the ubuntu dappler presentation
[03:08] <chx> btw. have I mentioned that Kubuntu rocks , serious? :)
[03:09] <mchasard> i think that kubuntu is very long to boot
[03:10] <mchasard> even 6.06
[03:11] <mchasard> what do you think about that
[03:11] <mchasard> as a live cd use its too long
[03:11] <dsalvat1> just upgrade to dapper and I am having issues with Xserver
[03:12] <dsalvat1> I get to kdm but when I log in it sets me back to kdm
[03:12] <v3ctor> hmm
[03:13] <HymnToLife> dapper issues in #ubuntu+1 please
[03:13] <dsalvat1> YES SIR
[03:14] <chx> HymnToLife: not to pester you but now even the topic containst a reference to Dapper
[03:14] <chx> HymnToLife: and that's not a Kubuntu channel :(
[03:15] <B4zzA> err why does it do that
[03:16] <v3ctor> anyone awakw?
[03:16] <v3ctor> awake* even
[03:16] <niall> yup
[03:16] <Hobbsee> nope, i'm asleep
[03:16] <v3ctor> latest updates on dapper broke me
[03:18] <chx> v3ctor: kcontrol dependecies?
[03:18] <DarkWizzard> hello
[03:18] <DarkWizzard> I need some help
[03:19] <DarkWizzard> I have a problem with apt-get
[03:19] <dipnlik> is there an easy way to "swap virtual desktops"? like switching everything that is on desktop 2 to 3 and everything from 3 to 2?
[03:19] <DarkWizzard> since I installed xmoto from debian packages I updated some librarys
[03:19] <DarkWizzard> and I have big dependency problem
[03:20] <DarkWizzard> apt always wants to remove 80 packages
[03:20] <Hobbsee> DarkWizzard: pastebin it?
[03:20] <DarkWizzard> how can I awoid this and tell apt not to remove them
[03:20] <DarkWizzard> cause everithing works fine
[03:20] <Hobbsee> DarkWizzard: pastebin what you see
[03:20] <Hobbsee> from the console
[03:20] <DarkWizzard> just a sec
[03:22] <DarkWizzard> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/673224
[03:22] <DarkWizzard> here it is
[03:23] <DarkWizzard> some packages are broken
[03:23] <DarkWizzard> but they all work fine
[03:23] <DarkWizzard> only it wants to remove them
[03:23] <Hobbsee> DarkWizzard: pastebin what "sudo apt-get upgrade" says
[03:24] <DarkWizzard> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/673231
[03:27] <nalioth> DarkWizzard: unofficial repos can bring in packages that have no upgrade candidates.  if there packages replace your official 'critical' ubuntu pkgs, you are pretty much done.
[03:27] <nalioth> Hobbsee: like that? lol
[03:28] <Hobbsee> something like that
[03:28] <DarkWizzard> well this happened
[03:28] <DarkWizzard> upsz
[03:28] <DarkWizzard> I got those packages from the debian packages page
[03:28] <nalioth> DarkWizzard: debian packages are a sure killer.
[03:29] <DarkWizzard> should I replace them with the original?
[03:29] <nalioth> DarkWizzard: if you are able, undo all you've done re debian pkgs
[03:29] <DarkWizzard> can't i just tell apt not to remove anithing ?
[03:30] <nalioth> DarkWizzard: your system is broken. that is why apt wants to remove stuff
[03:30] <DarkWizzard> ok
[03:30] <DarkWizzard> Can't I get Xmoto from an Ubuntu repository ?
[03:31] <DarkWizzard> it depends on very new stuff
[03:31] <_jeff> take it from me, i forced the install of libqt4-core and libqt4-gui on my breezy system yesterday and ive been paying ever since
[03:31] <nalioth> DarkWizzard: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[03:32] <DarkWizzard> well I guess I'l reinstall everithing when dapper comes out
[03:32] <DarkWizzard> till then I will go on without using apt
[03:32] <DarkWizzard> :)
[03:32] <bipolar> chx: I see you mentioned the kcontrol upgrade problem. do you know a solution for it?
[03:33] <Hobbsee> bipolar: there was one listed in the bug report.  otherwise, wait
[03:33] <DarkWizzard> thanks all
[03:34] <DarkWizzard> see ya
[03:37] <chx> bipolar: yes. wait.
[03:37] <chx> bipolar: if this affects so many people , there will be a new package, soon.
[03:42] <chx> seems already fixed :)
[03:42] <chx> that was _fast_
[03:48] <ainmosni> hmmz. dapper espresso installer ate my partitions for dinner last night
[03:49] <HaxoR91> hello there
[03:49] <HaxoR91> how is everyone doing?
[03:49] <ainmosni> so be careful with the installer ;)
[03:50] <ainmosni> didnt lose important data tho, still a very ugly bug
[03:50] <DeadS0ul> what options did you use?
[03:50] <ep> When opening a PDF file under firefox, I am presented with an "Open with" dialog box which in turns opens  gnome file browser rather than a menu.  How am I supposed to select an applicaton, such as Kpdf to open this file?
[03:50] <ainmosni> DeadS0ul: well
[03:50] <ainmosni> it happened just after i inputted the user
[03:50] <DeadS0ul> thoreauputic:  marvin? the one for Hitchhiker's guide?
[03:50] <ainmosni> i pressed next
[03:50] <ainmosni> it crashed
[03:50] <thoreauputic> DeadS0ul: right
[03:50] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[03:51] <HaxoR91> ep are you using kubuntu?
[03:51] <ep> yes
[03:51] <DeadS0ul> dang....
[03:51] <ainmosni> i was like 'ah well' rebooted and grub didnt work anymore
[03:51] <HaxoR91> then save it on the disk and open with the kpdf
[03:51] <DeadS0ul> is the same bug on debian?
[03:51] <ainmosni> so i didnt even see a partitioner or something
[03:51] <ainmosni> DeadS0ul: i dont know
[03:51] <thoreauputic> DeadS0ul: if I do it well enough, freenode will go down by suicide ;-)
[03:51] <ainmosni> never used espresso on debian
[03:51] <DeadS0ul> thoreauputic: hahaha
[03:51] <DeadS0ul> espresso?
[03:52] <DeadS0ul> what's espresso?
[03:52] <ainmosni> yah the livecd installer
[03:52] <DeadS0ul> oh
[03:52] <ainmosni> which will be the default in dapper
[03:52] <DeadS0ul> oki I never used the live cd
[03:52] <DeadS0ul> ...i installed dapper though
[03:52] <ainmosni> was a first for me yesterday
[03:52] <ainmosni> i liked the idea tho
[03:52] <ainmosni> installing through a livecd
[03:53] <HaxoR91> !livecd
[03:53] <ainmosni> so that i can browse and ssh while installing
[03:53] <DeadS0ul> meh that's so knoppix =P
[03:53] <ainmosni> heh its still a good idea ;)
[03:53] <DeadS0ul> yeah true that
[03:54] <ainmosni> not that i need a gui install or w/e
[03:54] <ainmosni> its just that installing is boring
[03:54] <ainmosni> heh
[03:54] <v3ctor> hmm
[03:54] <HaxoR91> ep
[03:54] <v3ctor> had lost connection after me post and didn't realize it
[03:54] <ainmosni> used the install cd after that
[03:54] <ainmosni> and now i have dapper on my workstation
[03:55] <ainmosni> will keep my work laptop on breezy for a bit tho ;)
[03:55] <v3ctor> anyone have issues with latest updates?
[03:55] <v3ctor> on dapper
[03:55] <DeadS0ul> what kinda issues?
[03:55] <v3ctor> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12671
[03:56] <jeroenvrp> v3ctor: you mean the kcontrol configure error?
[03:56] <v3ctor> kcontrol fails to install
[03:56] <jeroenvrp> yes
[03:56] <jeroenvrp> thats known
[03:56] <DeadS0ul> naw installs fine for me
[03:56] <thoreauputic> v3ctor: probably ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:56] <v3ctor> ty
[03:56] <DeadS0ul> I have trouble using su in KDE though
[03:57] <jeroenvrp> v3ctor: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/40393
[03:57] <deviant> Hi.. just wondering if anyone has ever tried using their symbian phone as a webcam?
[03:57] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 40393 in kdebase kcontrol "Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu9 crashes during post-installation" [Normal,Confirmed] 
[03:58] <v3ctor> ty
[03:58] <ep> HaxoR91: yes I'm kubutu
[03:58] <HaxoR91> ok
[03:59] <HaxoR91> ep:did you try what i told you?
[03:59] <HaxoR91> open with pdfviewer
[04:01] <ep> HaxoR91: I can save to disk and open with a pdf viewer yes.  I often do this...  Sometimes however it just convienent to open the pdf file and look at.  Close it and forget about it.  Less steps.  I can do this in windows:)
[04:02] <HaxoR91> ok
[04:03] <v3ctor> jeroenvrp: worked great..thanks
[04:03] <dipnlik> !ati
[04:03] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:04] <Hobbsee> jeroenvrp: er, what'd you change?
[04:04] <jeroenvrp> Hobbsee: I have put the link to #ubuntu+1 to the front, just after the beta-info
[04:04] <Hobbsee> ah, cool
[04:05] <jeroenvrp> if we do it this way, lets do it good :-)
[04:05] <ep> Plus Firefox presents me with two choices (1) "Save as..."   and (2) "Open with..."   Why does it present me with choice 2 and then make choice 2 so awkward  to carry out.   i.e. It is normal to launce applications from a menu, not a file browser.
[04:10] <bipolar> Wow... the kcontrol thing is fixed already? cool
[04:27] <waylandbill> is there a way to make Konversation give my nickserv password automatically on connect?
[04:28] <Hobbsee> waylandbill: yes, hit f2
[04:28] <Hobbsee> in the servers section, edit, the password there is the one to use for nickserv
[04:28] <DeadS0ul> haha my computer is going nuts
[04:29] <waylandbill> Hobbsee: ok. thanks that that was a server password.
[04:29] <Hobbsee> yes
[04:29] <waylandbill> s/that that/thought that/
[04:29] <Hobbsee> no, it's nickserv
[04:29] <waylandbill> ok cool
[04:29] <DeadS0ul> alright...looks liek I'm not using xcompmgr for a while
[04:30] <waylandbill> anyone use Gaim? I never get sound from it. I get sound from other things though.
[04:30] <cfraz89> DeadS0ul: have you tried kompmgr?
[04:30] <Hobbsee> ewww gaim
[04:30] <DeadS0ul> hmm not sure
[04:30] <Hobbsee> :P
[04:30] <waylandbill> Hobbsee: LOL!
[04:31] <waylandbill> there was a reason I didn't use Keopete. Don't remember what it is, but I know there was one.
[04:31] <DeadS0ul> cfraz89: can't find it in the repositories
[04:31] <cfraz89> DeadS0ul: give it a try
[04:31] <cfraz89> its part of kde
[04:32] <cfraz89> like when you tell kde to use window transparency
[04:32] <cfraz89> and you can configure it from kde
[04:32] <DeadS0ul> under desktop -> translucency
[04:32] <DeadS0ul> yeah that's what I turend on
[04:32] <cfraz89> ?
[04:32] <cfraz89> ahh
[04:32] <DeadS0ul> used...
[04:32] <cfraz89> so its not xcompmgr?
[04:33] <cfraz89> what happens?
[04:33] <cfraz89> crashes?
[04:33] <cfraz89> it made my x too unstable
[04:33] <DeadS0ul> thats' what I installed..
[04:33] <cfraz89> but im using xgl now
[04:33] <DeadS0ul> yeah x just restarts
[04:33] <cfraz89> ohh
[04:33] <DeadS0ul> xgl......yummy
[04:33] <DeadS0ul> isnt' it buggy though?
[04:33] <cfraz89> what video card?
[04:33] <DeadS0ul> nvidia 6800
[04:34] <DeadS0ul> no wait 6600
[04:34] <cfraz89> not as buggy as normal kompmgr for me
[04:34] <cfraz89> hardly crashes on me
[04:34] <DeadS0ul> was great yesterday
[04:34] <DeadS0ul> ..started dying today
[04:34] <cfraz89> and i put an icon to restart compiz if it does crash
[04:34] <DeadS0ul> ...stopped my mp3s too >|
[04:34] <cfraz89> hmm
[04:34] <waylandbill> when is dapper scheduled for release?
[04:35] <cfraz89> DeadS0ul: have you tried xgl?
[04:35] <DeadS0ul> nope
[04:35] <DeadS0ul> just read bout it
[04:35] <DeadS0ul> it's still alpha/beta
[04:35] <cfraz89> yeah
[04:35] <cfraz89> so is dapper lol
[04:36] <DeadS0ul> heheh true
[04:36] <cfraz89> i just wish it didnt force indirect rendering on opengl apps
[04:36] <cfraz89> then it would be perfect
[04:37] <DeadS0ul> apt-get install xserver-xgl, here I come
[04:37] <cfraz89> lol
[04:37] <DeadS0ul> hmm what's that mean?
[04:37] <cfraz89> it slows down everything else that is opengl
[04:37] <DeadS0ul> oh
[04:37] <DeadS0ul> how do I configure it?
[04:37] <cfraz89> because it forces opengl apps to go through the xserver to the videocard
[04:37] <cfraz89> configure?
[04:38] <DeadS0ul> I just install it? and I'm set?
[04:38] <cfraz89> do you use kde?
[04:38] <Hobbsee> waylandbill: june
[04:38] <DeadS0ul> yeah
[04:38] <DeadS0ul> =D
[04:38] <DeadS0ul> Sysinfo for 'pc01': Linux 2.6.15-20-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz at 3000 MHz (5998 bogomips), HD: 23/128GB, RAM: 1042/1517MB, 119 proc's, 51.51min up
[04:38] <cfraz89> best to use a newer version
[04:38] <DeadS0ul> ....wtf is a bogomip?
[04:38] <cfraz89> the dapper repositories have an old one which is crap with kde
[04:38] <cfraz89> wont be long
[04:38] <DeadS0ul> oh
[04:38] <DeadS0ul> ah I'll just wait for it then
[04:38] <cfraz89> just wait
[04:39] <cfraz89> ill give you the repos
[04:39] <DeadS0ul> cool
[04:39] <DeadS0ul> meh why is kde not letting me su?
[04:39] <Terminus> DeadS0ul: bogous(sp?) mips. :p
[04:39] <cfraz89> deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main
[04:39] <DeadS0ul> CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz at 3000 MHz (5998 bogomips)
[04:39] <cfraz89> and possibly deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ dapper main
[04:40] <cfraz89> but i commented that one out
[04:40] <Hobbsee> DeadS0ul: use sudo
[04:40] <DeadS0ul> >|
[04:40] <DeadS0ul> i enabled root
[04:41] <cfraz89> a mip is
[04:41] <cfraz89> one million instructions per second
[04:41] <cfraz89> :)
[04:41] <Hobbsee> sudo -s or sudo -i also works :P
[04:41] <DeadS0ul> yeah I remember that part..
[04:41] <cfraz89> a bogo means alot lol
[04:41] <DeadS0ul> sudo -s? sodo -i?
[04:41] <cfraz89> not sure how much exactly
[04:41] <DeadS0ul> i'm used to su..
[04:41] <waylandbill> BogoMips (from "bogus" and MIPS) are an unscientific measurement of CPU speed made by the Linux kernel when it boots, to calibrate an internal busy-loop. An oft-quoted definition of the term is "the number of million times per second a processor can do absolutely nothing".
[04:42] <cfraz89> whats it mean if amarok is showing all my ipod songs
[04:42] <cfraz89> as both orphaned and stale
[04:43] <Hobbsee> DeadS0ul: same as a root shell, pretty much
[04:43] <DeadS0ul> meh
[04:43] <DeadS0ul> I should've looked that up
[04:44] <cfraz89> any luck with the xgl goodness?
[04:44] <DeadS0ul> hmm sudo isn't working
[04:44] <DeadS0ul> updating
[04:44] <cfraz89> okie
[04:45] <cfraz89> i think sudo is a great idea
[04:45] <DeadS0ul> yeah I bet it is
[04:45] <DeadS0ul> ohh I have to be part of the admin group
[04:45] <cfraz89> instead of having to give people the administrator password
[04:45] <cfraz89> which can be leaked
[04:45] <DeadS0ul> vigr here I come!
[04:45] <cfraz89> you just add them to the group
[04:45] <cfraz89> and they use their own password
[04:45] <DeadS0ul> I thought it was the sudoer gruop
[04:46] <cfraz89> i think ubuntu changed it in the name of user-friendly
[04:46] <DeadS0ul> whoa baby
[04:46] <DeadS0ul> adept is up and running hehehe
[04:46] <cfraz89> awesome
[04:47] <DeadS0ul> ...and it killed my apt-get process..
[04:47] <DeadS0ul> alright xserver-org is installed
[04:47] <DeadS0ul> doI need to edit my xorg.conf?
[04:47] <waylandbill> sudo is nice to give people access to only a subset of administrative commands too.
[04:48] <DeadS0ul> waylandbill:  oh yeah? what commands we tlaking bout here?
[04:49] <cfraz89> DeadS0ul: did you just upgrade xorg?
[04:49] <DeadS0ul> yeah
[04:49] <cfraz89> well it should be right
[04:49] <cfraz89> without editing
[04:49] <DeadS0ul> cool
[04:49] <waylandbill> DeadS0ul: ls  ;-)    I've not needed to give someone limited sudo access. It's nice to know that I could though.
[04:49] <DeadS0ul> do I have to restart x?
[04:50] <DeadS0ul> waylandbill: ahhhh I see
[04:50] <cfraz89> not much poin
[04:50] <cfraz89> you wont notice the difference probably
[04:50] <cfraz89> are you upgrading to fix crashes?
[04:50] <DeadS0ul> naw
[04:50] <DeadS0ul> i wanted xgl =P
[04:50] <cfraz89> ohhh
[04:50] <cfraz89> thats not what you want then
[04:50] <cfraz89> you want compiz
[04:51] <cfraz89> and compiz-gnome
[04:51] <DeadS0ul> oki.
[04:51] <DeadS0ul> .....gnome..
[04:51] <DeadS0ul> meh
[04:51] <cfraz89> yeah
[04:51] <cfraz89> the compiz-kde is not finished yet
[04:51] <cfraz89> ie crashes
[04:51] <DeadS0ul> apt-get install compiz compiz-kde
[04:51] <cfraz89> then you will have to edit some files
[04:51] <cfraz89> ni
[04:51] <DeadS0ul> ...crashes..meh..I use windows man..
[04:51] <cfraz89> compiz-gnome
[04:52] <cfraz89> no
[04:52] <DeadS0ul> fine..
[04:52] <cfraz89> compiz-kde not work at all
[04:52] <cfraz89> is pre-alpha i think
[04:52] <DeadS0ul> aww man 42 packages...bloody hell
[04:52] <cfraz89> lol sorry
[04:52] <cfraz89> you on dialup?
[04:53] <cfraz89> oh i see
[04:53] <cfraz89> you havent had any gnome stuff on your computer before
[04:54] <bordi> ? k3b
[04:54] <bretzel> Hello
[04:55] <cfraz89> hi
[04:55] <bordi> hello bretzel
[04:55] <Sordid101> hey
[04:55] <bretzel> :-)
[04:55] <cfraz89> DeadS0ul - its also good to install gset-compiz
[04:55] <DeadS0ul> 43....
[04:55] <cfraz89> lol sorry
[04:55] <bretzel> Beta-Live Desktop cd ( Kubuntu-live-beta ) : Install : leaves at disk partition step ...
[04:56] <bordi> has anybody of you expieriences with installing kubuntu64 on windows xp 32 bit within qemu ( ? )
[04:56] <DeadS0ul> 46!
[04:56] <cfraz89> its going up?
[04:56] <DeadS0ul> ...meh..done..now what?
[04:56] <cfraz89> ok
[04:56] <cfraz89> step 1:
[04:56] <cfraz89> you need to edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[04:56] <DeadS0ul> yeah in installed 4 pckages with gset-compiz
[04:56] <cfraz89> oh
[04:57] <bretzel> DeadS0ul: -- Compiz: How is that in Kubuntu ? ( no KDE compiz yet... )
[04:57] <DeadS0ul> i'mtrying to find out
[04:57] <cfraz89> Compiz works well with kde
[04:57] <DeadS0ul> ask cfraz89 =P
[04:57] <cfraz89> though you have to use compiz-gnome
[04:57] <cfraz89> but its still good
[04:57] <DeadS0ul> alrigh ti have it opened in vi
[04:57] <DrBair> bretzel: there are some major annoyances with compiz and kde IMO
[04:57] <DocTomoe> has anyone in here managed to get a sharp zaurus pda to sync with kontact?
[04:58] <cfraz89> DeadS0ul - look for a line that says ServerCmd
[04:58] <bretzel> DeadS0ul: Me can't messup my kubuntu installation right now ... I prefer to wait when something is success ... :-)
[04:58] <cfraz89> ServerCmd=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -br
[04:58] <DeadS0ul> ...look....found it already
[04:58] <DrBair> DocTomoe: I did a while ago
[04:58] <DeadS0ul>  /ServerCmd =D
[04:58] <cfraz89> k
[04:58] <cfraz89> comment it
[04:58] <cfraz89> with a #
[04:58] <cfraz89> so you can go back to it if you want
[04:58] <DeadS0ul> i#..
[04:59] <DeadS0ul> done
[04:59] <cfraz89> and then put
[04:59] <cfraz89> ServerCmd=/usr/bin/Xgl :0 -fullscreen -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:fbo
[04:59] <DrBair> compiz doesn't play nice with the kde taskbar and pager, other than that its ok
[04:59] <cfraz89> the newer compizes do
[04:59] <cfraz89> oh
[04:59] <cfraz89> sorry
[04:59] <cfraz89> my bad
[04:59] <bretzel> I tried the beta-live, and then the install stuff but it aborts in the disk part. step without any err msg ....
[04:59] <cfraz89> yeah
[04:59] <cfraz89> i had to rid the pager and taskbar
[04:59] <bordi> can we compare some kde screenshots right now ?
[04:59] <bordi> http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8725/kdeongentoo0ww.png
[05:00] <DocTomoe> DrBair: I do have an 5500G ... it gets detected by the kernel when I put it on USB, however, I do not know the next steps... can you help me?
[05:00] <DeadS0ul> cfraz89: done..
[05:00] <cfraz89> home.exetel.com.zu/cfraz89/xgl-automanic.png
[05:00] <cfraz89> home.exetel.com.au/cfraz89/xgl-automanic.png
[05:00] <cfraz89> sorry
[05:00] <cfraz89> last one
[05:00] <DeadS0ul> DocTomoe: have you tried setting up konnector?
[05:00] <bretzel> bordi: screenshot was Fast ! :-) and cool
[05:00] <cfraz89> DeadS0ul, make a script in your .kde/autostart
[05:01] <bordi> cfraz89: put the http:// before and everybody can klick it with xchat or other apps
[05:01] <DocTomoe> DeadS0ul: this is what kontact calls "Sync", right?
[05:01] <cfraz89> sorry
[05:01] <cfraz89> http://home.exetel.com.au/cfraz89/xgl-automanic.png
[05:01] <cfraz89> thats my game in the screenshot :)
[05:01] <DeadS0ul> DocTomoe: yeap, kitchensync
[05:01] <DrBair> DocTomoe: Do you have the USB ethernet setup yet?
[05:01] <cfraz89> not much of the desktop lol
[05:02] <DeadS0ul> its' a cube
[05:02] <DocTomoe> DeadS0ul: thats what I am trying
[05:02] <DocTomoe> DrBair: the zaurus has an ip, but I cannot ping it from my pc
[05:02] <DeadS0ul> cfraz89: : what script
[05:02] <cfraz89> a text file
[05:02] <DeadS0ul> DocTomoe: oh.
[05:02] <bordi> wow thats cool, crimsun
[05:02] <cfraz89> which has some commands
[05:02] <bordi> wow thats cool, cfraz89
[05:02] <DocTomoe> DrBair: therefore, this might be the problem
[05:02] <cfraz89> lol thanks
[05:02] <bretzel> cfraz89: Is that your actual compiz installation ?
[05:02] <cfraz89> yes
[05:02] <DocTomoe> DrBair: however: no Idea how to solve this
[05:03] <cfraz89> a blank text file in .kde/Autostart
[05:03] <bretzel> not in Kubuntu ... ?
[05:03] <cfraz89> yep
[05:03] <cfraz89> dapper
[05:03] <DrBair> DocTomoe: Does the usb0 interface have an IP on the same subnet as well?
[05:03] <cfraz89> and paste in this:
[05:03] <DrBair> DocTomoe: on the desktop side that is
[05:03] <cfraz89> #!/bin/sh
[05:03] <cfraz89> compiz --replace gconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place menu switcher &
[05:03] <cfraz89> gnome-window-decorator &
[05:03] <bretzel> cfraz89: the beta or the last alpha ? ( F6 )
[05:03] <cfraz89> the screenshot was from f6
[05:03] <cfraz89> but i just dist-upgraded
[05:03] <DocTomoe> DrBair: there does not appear to be a network usb0 device in ifconfig. how can I change this?
[05:04] <DeadS0ul> alright.
[05:04] <cfraz89> ok
[05:04] <cfraz89> and make it executable
[05:04] <DrBair> DocTomoe: what about ifconfig -a ?
[05:04] <bretzel> congratulation dude, I have no patience to work on it ...
[05:04] <fraki> got Kubunu 5.10 breezy, install ati drivers and some other modules, when I select to restart or close session screen turns black, get klaptop icon in upper left and laptop hangs
[05:04] <cfraz89> lol
[05:04] <fraki> any help?
[05:04] <DocTomoe> DrBair: there it is, but not configured
[05:05] <DeadS0ul> done
[05:05] <cfraz89> ok
[05:05] <cfraz89> best to copy it onto your kicker
[05:05] <cfraz89> so you can get it back if compiz crashes
[05:05] <DeadS0ul> fraki: did you set up x after installing the ati modules?
[05:05] <cfraz89> make a launcher on your kicker
[05:05] <DrBair> DocTomoe: you need to setup /etc/network/interfaces to make everything work. Its not too hard. Heres what mine looks like http://pastebin.com/673399
[05:05] <cfraz89> which runs that
[05:05] <fraki> no
[05:05] <DeadS0ul> whta's a klauncher
[05:06] <DeadS0ul> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:06] <DeadS0ul> make sure you choose your ati driver
[05:06] <fraki> ohh yeah i did that i think
[05:06] <DrBair> DocTomoe: that will automatically setup an IP and IP-forwarding when the Zaurus is plugged in, and take it all apart when you disconnect
[05:06] <fraki> let me do it
[05:06] <fraki> thnxs
[05:06] <cfraz89> DeadS0ul:
[05:06] <cfraz89> add application -> non-kde application
[05:06] <cfraz89> and choose the script you made
[05:07] <DocTomoe> DrBair: ok, I copied it into /etc/network/interfaces ... now an ifup usb0, I assume?
[05:07] <cfraz89> after that just restart x, hope it works
[05:07] <DrBair> DocTomoe: no, just plug the zaurus in again and it should set everything up
[05:07] <cfraz89> if it bombs out, comment out the xgl servercmd and restore the old one
[05:08] <DrBair> DocTomoe: just make sure all the IP and hostname information in that file is correct for your setup
[05:08] <DeadS0ul> i didn't put anyting inot the script..
[05:08] <cfraz89> oh ok
[05:08] <bretzel> cfraz89: Last question about compiz: How fast is the water effect ? the first time I tried it it was working crappy... I had to move the mouse for the effects to finish....
[05:08] <cfraz89> it is fairly slow still
[05:08] <bretzel> ...when moving windows
[05:08] <cfraz89> fairly slow
[05:09] <B4zzA> installed vid card drivers?
[05:09] <DocTomoe> DrBair: ok, the zaurus now is pingable
[05:09] <bretzel> cfraz89: okay, I am defenitly waiting then :-)
[05:09] <cfraz89> lol
[05:09] <cfraz89> just for the water?
[05:09] <bretzel> lol
[05:09] <cfraz89> #!/bin/sh
[05:09] <cfraz89> compiz --replace gconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place menu switcher &
[05:09] <cfraz89> gnome-window-decorator &
[05:09] <DeadS0ul> do i really need the script? cna i just retart x now?
[05:09] <DocTomoe> DrBair: however, now I get an "ressource is not readable"-Error while syncing
[05:09] <cfraz89> you need the script
[05:09] <cfraz89> its what runs compiz
[05:10] <cfraz89> otherwise you wont notice the difference
[05:10] <cfraz89> i just pasted it in
[05:10] <cfraz89> The /bin/sh
[05:10] <DrBair> DocTomoe: good stuff. I remember you need to sync by IP address somehow. hold on a second and I'll figure it out again
[05:10] <cfraz89> and the compiz
[05:10] <cfraz89> and the gnome-window-dec
[05:10] <cfraz89> they go in the script
[05:10] <bretzel> mmm to be honest the rest of the effects was working fairly well ( shades, fades, shadows ) only window movements was crappy.
[05:10] <cfraz89> window-moving is fast
[05:10] <cfraz89> for me
[05:10] <cfraz89> on a 5200 go
[05:11] <cfraz89> DeadS0ul: did you copy it?
[05:11] <cfraz89> i can upload my copy if you want
[05:11] <DeadS0ul> yeap
[05:11] <DeadS0ul> naw I'm good
[05:11] <cfraz89> ok
[05:11] <bretzel> but are the water completes the sequences when stopping the mouse ?
[05:11] <DeadS0ul> & is to run the process in the backgroudn right?
[05:11] <cfraz89> yes
[05:11] <cfraz89> bretzel:?
[05:11] <DeadS0ul> ah
[05:12] <DeadS0ul> sweet
[05:12] <DeadS0ul> alright restart now?
[05:12] <ubuntu_> hi, i wish to ask if an ubuntu server has the prefix "mt." (mt being my country code) such as "mt.releases.ubuntu.com" or "mt.ubuntu.com" does that mean that the server is situated in malta (mt) or not?? because i have bandwith limits when downloading from foreign countries so i would like to know this.
[05:12] <cfraz89> ok
[05:12] <DeadS0ul> or shoudl i try starting a new session?
[05:12] <cfraz89> i didnt think about that
[05:12] <cfraz89> just go for xtrl-alt-backspace
[05:12] <cfraz89> do you know how to fix it from commandline?
[05:13] <bretzel> I mean, when I stoped the mouse (  when window-moving ) the water effect stopped without completing the effect: then having window shapes waving and still. I had to move the mouse to make it return "rectangular "
[05:13] <cfraz89> oh its ok
[05:13] <cfraz89> i dont get that
[05:14] <bretzel> good then :-) -- NVidia ... ok >
[05:14] <bretzel> ?
[05:14] <cfraz89> uhuh
[05:14] <d_fraki> hei its fraki again, started to reconfigured xorg then system crashed when it tried to probe for monitor
[05:14] <cfraz89> but would be good if aiglx worked with nvidia
[05:14] <d_fraki> same way that it hangs when i select to restart or close a session
[05:14] <bretzel> aiglx ?
[05:14] <DrBair> DocTomoe: what Konnector are you using?
[05:15] <cfraz89> DeadS0ul: did it work?
[05:15] <bretzel> "Artificial Intelligence" - glx ? heheh?
[05:15] <cfraz89> accelerated indirect :)
[05:15] <BaLiLu> hi, i wish to ask if an ubuntu server has the prefix "mt." (mt being my country code) such as "mt.releases.ubuntu.com" or "mt.ubuntu.com" does that mean that the server is situated in malta (mt) or not?? because i have bandwith limits when downloading from foreign countries so i would like to know this.
[05:15] <BaLiLu> anybody can help
[05:15] <bretzel> lol - it was a joke ...
[05:15] <cfraz89> i know :)
[05:15] <Hobbsee> BaLiLu: i would assume so
[05:16] <DocTomoe> DrBair: qtopia
[05:16] <DeadS0ul> frogot to add the script to klauncher
[05:16] <DeadS0ul> bbs
[05:16] <BaLiLu> thanks hobsee
[05:16] <waylandbill> Balilu: do a tracert on it and see what servers it jumps to get to there.
[05:16] <bretzel> Another topic: My entry hello - first - question.... Kubuntu-live-beta-install program crashes ...
[05:16] <cfraz89> DeadS0ul: it should be ok if you didnt add the script to your panel
[05:16] <DeadS0ul> ...right click panel -> add non kde application and select the script right?
[05:16] <BaLiLu> waylandbill: how do i do it?
[05:17] <cfraz89> yep
[05:17] <cfraz89> thats to click on in case compiz crashes
[05:17] <DeadS0ul> I cna just run it now?
[05:17] <DeadS0ul> ohh oki
[05:17] <cfraz89> it should have run when you logged in
[05:17] <cfraz89> im guessing it didnt
[05:17] <DeadS0ul> nope
[05:17] <cfraz89> hmm
[05:17] <cfraz89> open up a console
[05:17] <DeadS0ul> k
[05:17] <DeadS0ul> it's up
[05:17] <DeadS0ul> what now?
[05:18] <cfraz89> and copy in this line and run it:
[05:18] <DeadS0ul> k
[05:18] <cfraz89> compiz --replace gconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place menu switcher &
[05:18] <cfraz89> just to see what the error is
[05:19] <DocTomoe> DrBair: for some wicked reason, the zaurus is no longer pingable -_-
[05:19] <DeadS0ul> compiz.real: Failed to manage screen: 0
[05:19] <DeadS0ul> compiz.real: No managable screens found on display :0
[05:19] <cfraz89> hmmm
[05:19] <DeadS0ul> that happens with all kde apps if I run it in console I think
[05:19] <waylandbill> BaLiLu: my mistake. I meant tracepath and it's just tracepath followed by the server's hostname
[05:19] <cfraz89> oh
[05:19] <DeadS0ul> [1] +  Done                    compiz --replace gconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place menu switche
[05:20] <cfraz89> sorry
[05:20] <cfraz89> i should have not put the and in
[05:20] <cfraz89> cant see what it says
[05:20] <DeadS0ul> hey kwin didn't start
[05:20] <cfraz89> cool
[05:20] <cfraz89> it worked
[05:20] <BaLiLu> waylandbill: what do you mean by tracepath ? :S
[05:20] <DrBair> DocTomoe: if you remove it and plug it in again it should reset the connection
[05:20] <cfraz89> now run gnome-window-decorator
[05:20] <DeadS0ul> heh k
[05:21] <DeadS0ul> crap i don't tihnk it installed
[05:21] <DrBair> DocTomoe: I can't get mine to turn on... it hates me for abandoning it
[05:21] <cfraz89> oh
[05:21] <waylandbill> Balilu: tracepath,  tracepath6  - traces path to a network host discovering MTU along this path
[05:21] <BaLiLu> waylandbill: its an application right? just searched a bit
[05:21] <waylandbill> BaLiLu: yes. it's a command line application.
[05:22] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:22] <cfraz89> DeadS0ul, you installed compiz-gnome?
[05:22] <cfraz89> hi
[05:22] <BaLiLu> waylandbill: still how do i check if it's in malta? what should be the result if it's int malta?
[05:23] <DeadS0ul> >| it didn't install, I have to force install the newer version then it'll install...
[05:23] <DeadS0ul> I thin
[05:23] <DeadS0ul> what version is your compiz?
[05:23] <cfraz89> 0.0.9
[05:23] <cfraz89> yours?
[05:24] <DeadS0ul> same
[05:24] <cfraz89> ok
[05:24] <cfraz89> hmm
[05:24] <cfraz89> but your compiz-gnome wont install?
[05:24] <DeadS0ul> think mine is from ubuntu
[05:24] <DeadS0ul> gimme a sec
[05:24] <cfraz89> oh ok
[05:24] <DocTomoe> DrBair: ... however, this stuff now works better than in the 4 years I had abandoned mine :) Thank you a lot for getting me to the right path
[05:25] <DrBair> DocTomoe: I got it going now I think, just needed to sit in the cradle for a few minutes
[05:26] <DeadS0ul> k
[05:26] <DeadS0ul> lemme hit the script button
[05:26] <BaLiLu> waylandbill: still how do i check if it's in malta? what should be the result if it is in malta?
[05:26] <cfraz89> ok
[05:26] <DeadS0ul> dunno if that helped
[05:26] <cfraz89> hmm
[05:26] <DeadS0ul> i'll kill compiz and hit that script agian
[05:26] <cfraz89> dont
[05:27] <DeadS0ul> k
[05:27] <DeadS0ul> i won't
[05:27] <DocTomoe> DrBair: ok, will be standing by
[05:27] <DeadS0ul> what now then?
[05:27] <cfraz89> open a terminal and run gnome-window-decorator ?
[05:29] <cfraz89> hi again
[05:29] <Dru> well thats 6.06 being saved to my pen drive for when I get home
[05:29] <DeadS0ul> heya
[05:29] <cfraz89> work?
[05:29] <DeadS0ul> had to restart x...keyboard went wonky
[05:29] <cfraz89> hmm
[05:29] <DeadS0ul> ..yeah but kwin's up this time
[05:29] <cfraz89> oh so didnt work at all
[05:29] <DeadS0ul> probably
[05:30] <DeadS0ul> I think i didn't install the right package
[05:30] <DeadS0ul> compiz-vanilla..
[05:30] <cfraz89> no
[05:30] <cfraz89> thats plain compiz
[05:30] <cfraz89> better use compiz
[05:30] <cfraz89> it has some patches
[05:30] <DeadS0ul> hmm lemme try agian
[05:30] <Dru> anyone tried the Opera 9 Beta ?
[05:31] <DeadS0ul> alright brb
[05:31] <cfraz89> ok
[05:31] <cfraz89> i think i tried it through klik once
[05:32] <ccc_> Dru: i'm running 9.00 preview 2
[05:32] <Dru> any good
[05:32] <DrBair> DocTomoe: mine machine doesn't seem to be running the interface script for some reason...
[05:32] <ccc_> yup :)
[05:32] <jpetso> quick survey: does anyone of you have Krita in the "Open with" context menu in Konqueror by default?
[05:32] <cfraz89> no
[05:33] <ccc_> Dru: very good even. haven't tried the beta, but i will in a minute.
[05:33] <Dru> as just downloaded the 9.0-2 deb file from opera to try out
[05:33] <cfraz89> jpetso: it isnt for me
[05:33] <cfraz89> DeadS0ul: guessing it didnt work?
[05:33] <DeadS0ul> can you pase the kdm line again?
[05:33] <cfraz89> ok
[05:33] <DeadS0ul> kdm isnt' starting up now
[05:33] <cfraz89> oh
[05:34] <cfraz89> ServerCmd=/usr/bin/Xgl :0 -fullscreen -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:fbo
[05:34] <cfraz89> is what im using
[05:34] <Dru> god this work PC sucks big time
[05:34] <DocTomoe> DrBair: It seems that there still are some connection problems ...
[05:34] <cfraz89> ServerCmd=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -br
[05:34] <cfraz89> is the original
[05:34] <DrBair> DocTomoe: what release of ubuntu are you using?
[05:35] <cfraz89> DeadS0ul - do you have xserver-xgl installed?
[05:35] <DeadS0ul> seems right
[05:35] <DeadS0ul> yeap
[05:35] <cfraz89> hmm
[05:35] <douglas> What package has fmod?
[05:35] <DeadS0ul> lemme double check that heh
[05:35] <cfraz89> ok
[05:35] <DocTomoe> DrBair: Dapper. I am aware on the bug at lunchbag of march 26th, however, that guy didn't even get it to detect, so...
[05:35] <DocTomoe> s/lunchbag/launchpad
[05:35] <bretzel> Duh ? Just upgraded to latest kde from normal ubuntu repos and fonts are cool!
[05:35] <DeadS0ul> yeap
[05:35] <cfraz89> hmm
[05:36] <cfraz89> but kdm wont start?
[05:36] <Dru> omg only 62Mb left on my thumb drive
[05:36] <DeadS0ul> rand apt-get install xserver-xgl again
[05:36] <bretzel> And .. btw... I see kde-window-decorator for compiz... any one knows it ?
[05:36] <DeadS0ul> it upgradedd
[05:36] <DeadS0ul> brb..
[05:36] <thoreauputic> DocTomoe: I kind of like "lunchbag" <grin>
[05:36] <cfraz89> bretzel: it doesnt work
[05:36] <DrBair> DocTomoe: I had it working on breezy but now I'm on Dapper. Is your usb0 interface getting an IP?
[05:36] <cfraz89> ok DeadS0ul
[05:36] <bretzel> ah... thanks for the hint cfraz89 :-)
[05:36] <cfraz89> np
[05:36] <eqisow> bretzel, last I heard it wasn't really working at all
[05:37] <DocTomoe> DrBair: so it seems. I am able to ping both the usb0 interface and the zaurus
[05:37] <elijahlofgren> DocTomoe: What are  you trying to do? I just recently set up a usb0 connection with my iPAQ running Familiar.
[05:37] <bretzel> eqisow, thanks, and I just jhave to install compiz-gnome instead eh ?
[05:37] <cfraz89> yep
[05:38] <eqisow> yeah, there's a faq for getting compiz running under kde in the forums somewhere.. but iirc it has a few problems
[05:38] <cfraz89> and choose a gtk theme which matches colours
[05:38] <DocTomoe> elijahlofgren: I have a Sharp Zaurus 5500G and want it to sync with Kontact. After much help from DrBair, I can now ping it... however, it refuses to sync.
[05:38] <DeadS0ul> not starting at all now....crap
[05:38] <cfraz89> sorry
[05:38] <DocTomoe> elijahlofgren: Kontact mutters something about "Connection Problems"
[05:38] <bretzel> ...and all gnome stuff will be installed... - cfraz89: thanks
[05:38] <DeadS0ul> had to use the old line
[05:38] <cfraz89> did it say anything?
[05:39] <bretzel> uh... lots of gnome to be installed, almost the whole gnome-desktop ...
[05:39] <DeadS0ul> naw, the ubuntu splash screen was there, said it timed out
[05:39] <cfraz89> are you restarting the computer?
[05:39] <eqisow> bretzel, try this thread
[05:39] <DeadS0ul> invoke-rc.d kdm restart
[05:39] <eqisow> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=845077
[05:39] <cfraz89> oh
[05:39] <elijahlofgren> DocTomoe: I followed this guide: http://opie.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/SyncingHowto (I had to restart Kontact a few times to get it working after setting it up)
[05:40] <cfraz89> try just /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[05:40] <cfraz89> then Xgl
[05:40] <cfraz89> as root
[05:40] <cfraz89> i mean
[05:42] <DocTomoe> elijahlofgren: thanks
[05:42] <DocTomoe> DrBair: it works. restarting kitchensync did the trick!
[05:42] <DrBair> DocTomoe: awesome!
[05:42] <bretzel> launched installation of compiz... I feel... a bit nervous ...
[05:43] <cfraz89> lol dont
[05:43] <cfraz89> you can always roll back
[05:43] <bretzel> lol
[05:43] <DocTomoe> there's still life in this old baby...
[05:43] <DocTomoe> I owe you three a lot
[05:43] <cfraz89> i hope DeadS0ul's computer didnt blow up
[05:43] <bretzel> ( uninstall xgl and replace /usr/bin/X to point to normal xorg I know
[05:44] <cfraz89> hi!
[05:44] <cfraz89> what happened?
[05:44] <DeadS0ul> error msg in syslog
[05:44] <DeadS0ul> Xgl can't be started
[05:44] <cfraz89> what say?
[05:44] <cfraz89> thats all?
[05:44] <DeadS0ul> yeah, kdm reported it
[05:44] <cfraz89> hmmmmmmmmmm
[05:44] <DeadS0ul> what's the line again
[05:44] <cfraz89> new plan
[05:45] <DeadS0ul> i tried removing the fbo bit
[05:45] <cfraz89> you have the old x line in place?
[05:45] <DeadS0ul> ...oh new plan..
[05:45] <DeadS0ul> x line? what you mean?
[05:45] <cfraz89> you can run xgl on display :1 when you login
[05:45] <cfraz89> DeadS0ul: your running normal xorg now?
[05:45] <DeadS0ul> yeap
[05:45] <cfraz89> cool
[05:45] <DeadS0ul> acutally
[05:45] <DeadS0ul> I just hit startx
[05:45] <cfraz89> well try it another way
[05:45] <cfraz89> oh
[05:46] <cfraz89> turn your kdmrc back to the normal x
[05:46] <DeadS0ul> alright
[05:46] <DeadS0ul> don
[05:46] <DeadS0ul> restart x?
[05:46] <cfraz89> nah
[05:47] <cfraz89> i just want to see why xgl wont start
[05:47] <cfraz89> try running from a konsole:
[05:47] <DeadS0ul> kdm?
[05:47] <DeadS0ul> oki
[05:47] <cfraz89> grr
[05:47] <DeadS0ul> or xgl?
[05:47] <cfraz89> this : /usr/bin/Xgl :0 -fullscreen -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:fbo
[05:47] <cfraz89> as in from the /usr onwards
[05:47] <cfraz89> paste that into konsole
[05:47] <cfraz89> sorry that should be a 1 not a 0
[05:48] <cfraz89> paste this in konsole: /usr/bin/Xgl :1 -fullscreen -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:fbo
[05:48] <cfraz89> ther
[05:48] <cfraz89> it should start xgl on a new screen
[05:48] <afd_> apropos xgl, I've tried installing it today, and I'm running xgl right now with no prob, but compiz.real barfs out saying something about a missing gl extension, which is listed in glxinfo. any pointers? I have an nvidia 5700, dapper up to date, latest nvidia binary kernel
[05:48] <DeadS0ul> haha it ran but I couldn't change screens
[05:48] <DeadS0ul> had to kill it
[05:48] <cfraz89> so it did run?
[05:49] <DeadS0ul> yeah
[05:49] <cfraz89> hmm
[05:49] <cfraz89> but kdm wont run it
[05:49] <cfraz89> maybe you could paste your kdmrc on pastebin, ill have a look at it?
[05:50] <cfraz89> afd_: is it GL_EXT_TEXTURE_FROM_PIXMAP by any chance?
[05:50] <DeadS0ul> hmm
[05:50] <cfraz89> kubuntu.pastebin.com?
[05:50] <DeadS0ul> i didn't have a space after Xgl...so it was Xgl:0 and no Xgl :0
[05:50] <cfraz89> lols
[05:50] <DeadS0ul> hehe
[05:50] <DeadS0ul> once last try beforei show you my kdmrc
[05:50] <cfraz89> ok
[05:51] <cfraz89> hopefully everything fades and wobbles when you log in
[05:51] <bretzel> okidoo, thread read and applied, about to restart x
[05:51] <DeadS0ul> =O
[05:51] <DeadS0ul> cool
[05:51] <DeadS0ul> lemme try
[05:51] <DeadS0ul> bbs
[05:51] <cfraz89> k
[05:52] <disorbtion> how do you join other networks?
[05:52] <cfraz89> disorbtion: do you mean wireless networks?
[05:52] <disorbtion> !list
[05:52] <ubotu> from memory, list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:52] <disorbtion> no IRC networks/channels
[05:53] <cfraz89> ahh
[05:53] <disorbtion> im using Konversation
[05:53] <cfraz89> file->Server list?
[05:53] <cfraz89> make a new one?
[05:53] <disorbtion> how do i know what to add for a new one?
[05:53] <cfraz89> ohf
[05:53] <cfraz89> *oh
[05:53] <cfraz89> websites have lists
[05:53] <disorbtion> oic
[05:53] <cfraz89> hmm
[05:54] <cfraz89> DeadS0ul:?
[05:54] <DeadS0ul> kdm started =D
[05:54] <disorbtion> wanna be able to find and DL files
[05:54] <cfraz89> yay
[05:54] <DeadS0ul> kwin is up though
[05:54] <cfraz89> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[05:54] <DeadS0ul> lemme check my script again haha
[05:54] <cfraz89> ok: terminal, run that long compiz commabd
[05:54] <DeadS0ul> kwin is down
[05:55] <cfraz89> ?
[05:55] <cfraz89> http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/networks/
[05:55] <DeadS0ul> just rand that command heh
[05:55] <DeadS0ul> and kwin closed
[05:55] <cfraz89> cool
[05:55] <cfraz89> so compiz should be running
[05:55] <cfraz89> gnome-window-decorator
[05:55] <cfraz89> run that
[05:55] <DeadS0ul> hope so
[05:55] <DeadS0ul> it's up
[05:55] <cfraz89> it is?
[05:55] <afd_> cfraz89: yeah, that's right
[05:56] <cfraz89> cool
[05:56] <afd_> just found something about it on ubuntuforums
[05:56] <DeadS0ul> hahah
[05:56] <DeadS0ul> fancy
[05:56] <cfraz89> lol awesome
[05:56] <afd_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267&page=49
[05:56] <cfraz89> DeadS0ul: do you want to keep it?
[05:56] <cfraz89> if so, ill give you some tips
[05:56] <DeadS0ul> i have ot use gnome window decorator?
[05:56] <cfraz89> yes
[05:56] <cfraz89> for now
[05:56] <bretzel> mmmm Still the same probs. with window-move... I have to move the mouse to make the anum seq. to finish ...
[05:56] <cfraz89> you can change its colours with the gtk theme
[05:56] <bretzel> anim ...
[05:56] <cfraz89> hmm
[05:57] <DeadS0ul> i can't move my konversation window >|
[05:57] <cfraz89> try alt-click
[05:57] <cfraz89> it should move though
[05:57] <DeadS0ul> ah that worked
[05:57] <cfraz89> hmmm
[05:57] <DeadS0ul> WHOA
[05:57] <DeadS0ul> awesome
[05:57] <cfraz89> lol
[05:58] <bretzel> ...and popup windows without title/caption can't be moved as well - like DeadS0ul said
[05:58] <cfraz89> hmm
[05:58] <DeadS0ul> i have the mac sytel file menu on top..
[05:58] <cfraz89> i havent had any problems with windows not moving
[05:58] <DeadS0ul> konversation when under it..
[05:58] <cfraz89> ahhhh
[05:58] <cfraz89> yeah
[05:58] <cfraz89> good old alt-click
[05:58] <DeadS0ul> what other effects are there?
[05:58] <cfraz89> have you tried the cube?
[05:59] <cfraz89> control-alt desktop-click?
[05:59] <cfraz89> and drag
[05:59] <cfraz89> uh-oh
[06:00] <DeadS0ul> dammit
[06:00] <cfraz89> what happened?
[06:00] <DeadS0ul> thre's only one desktop now
[06:00] <cfraz89> no
[06:00] <bretzel> and... what is the key for the desk-switcher cube ? :-)
[06:00] <cfraz89> its just compiz mucking with kde
[06:00] <cfraz89> control alt click
[06:00] <cfraz89> and drag
[06:00] <cfraz89> or move mouse to left or right edge
[06:00] <DeadS0ul> OoOooOO
[06:01] <solan> has anyone got any experience with Mediatomb?
[06:01] <bretzel> cfarz89 : woah!!! hehehehehe!!!
[06:01] <cfraz89> lol
[06:01] <DeadS0ul> show me more show me more
[06:01] <cfraz89> other things to note:
[06:01] <bretzel> I am listening :-)
[06:01] <DeadS0ul> crap I can't resize juk
[06:03] <cfraz89> hmm
[06:03] <cfraz89> x just crashed on me :)
[06:03] <cfraz89> sorry
[06:03] <DeadS0ul> heh
[06:03] <cfraz89> ok
[06:03] <DeadS0ul> wb
[06:03] <cfraz89> tried f12?
[06:03] <bretzel> oops! lol
[06:03] <cfraz89> its the expose thing
[06:03] <cfraz89> or move mouse to top-right corner
[06:03] <DeadS0ul> f12 is yukuake for me
[06:03] <cfraz89> oh ok
[06:04] <cfraz89> try moving mouse to top
[06:04] <cfraz89> and then right
[06:04] <cfraz89> its good to run gset-compiz and play around with settings
[06:04] <cfraz89> and the shortcuts
[06:04] <cfraz89> DeadS0ul: did you get the expose thing?
[06:05] <DeadS0ul> nope
[06:05] <cfraz89> hmm
[06:05] <DeadS0ul> doens't liet me install gset-compiz either
[06:05] <cfraz89> why?
[06:05] <DeadS0ul> i'm gonna have to wait for compiz-kde =(
[06:05] <cfraz89> why?
[06:05] <cfraz89> too much gnome stuff?
[06:05] <DeadS0ul> I like top menubar at the top
[06:06] <DeadS0ul> have to turn it off if I use this
[06:06] <cfraz89> ohhh
[06:06] <DeadS0ul> it's screwing things up
[06:06] <cfraz89> does maximise go under it?
[06:06] <Belboz99> Hey all, I'm running Kubuntu Dapper Drake with the latest updates, and I keep on getting this error when attempting to configure my printer:
[06:06] <Belboz99> An error occurred while retrieving the printer list. Error message received from manager:
[06:06] <Belboz99> successful-ok-ignored-or-substituted-attributes
[06:06] <DeadS0ul> naw but my system tray went nuts and so did pager
[06:06] <cfraz89> DeadS0ul: the system tray should be ok...
[06:06] <cfraz89> if compiz starts with kde
[06:07] <cfraz89> but the taskbar and pager wont work properly
[06:07] <bretzel> systray is ok for me
[06:07] <cfraz89> if you enable the miniwin plugin you get a maxosx like dock when you minimise stuff
[06:07] <cfraz89> which is useful
[06:07] <bretzel> taskbar works for me
[06:07] <DeadS0ul> all my menu bars are nuts now
[06:07] <bretzel> across desks also
[06:07] <cfraz89> bretzel: what about when you minimise?
[06:07] <DeadS0ul> naw I think I'll just wait
[06:07] <cfraz89> ok
[06:07] <DeadS0ul> hwo do I do the mouse effects?
[06:07] <bretzel> works also :-)
[06:08] <cfraz89> hmm
[06:08] <bretzel> with the proper effects
[06:08] <cfraz89> DeadS0ul: what mouse effects?
[06:08] <cfraz89> the rain?
[06:08] <DeadS0ul> yeah
[06:08] <camel> hi !
[06:08] <cfraz89> you need to run compiz with the water plugin
[06:08] <DeadS0ul> dang
[06:08] <DeadS0ul> crap it for now then
[06:08] <camel> I have a question :>
[06:08] <cfraz89> wait
[06:09] <camel> How to fix the XGL ??
[06:09] <bretzel> wow! clicking on a window in different desk, auto-switch to that desk... if that window is not minimized
[06:09] <elijahlofgren> Belboz99: I would try using the Cups web interface to configure your printer: http://localhost:631/printers/
[06:09] <DeadS0ul> hmm
[06:09] <camel> dapper drake flight 5
[06:09] <camel> :>
[06:09] <bretzel> otherwize, transfer the minimized window to the current desk and restore oit
[06:09] <jeff_m> hey guys
[06:09] <DeadS0ul> heya jeff
[06:10] <camel> who can help me ?
[06:10] <jeff_m> does anybody know how to install kubuntu beta without loading a live session
[06:10] <jeff_m> from the cd?
[06:10] <Belboz99> elijahlofgren: , I have no idea how to use that interface to connect a printer that's only connected to the network via Wi-Fi
[06:10] <jeff_m> deads0ul: hey man
[06:10] <DeadS0ul> jeff_m: you get the install cd, not the live cd
[06:10] <camel> Who know how to make XGL ??
[06:10] <apokryphos> camel: /msg ubotu xgl
[06:10] <DeadS0ul> I just turned on XGL
[06:10] <bretzel> Seems the only crappy stuff I get with compiz is that window-move... I can leave with it without no probs :-)
[06:10] <DeadS0ul> it's cool but not cool enough for kde yet
[06:11] <cfraz89> grr
[06:11] <cfraz89> i think the dist-upgrade borked my x
[06:11] <camel> but when I try to fix that the X'y swith off
[06:11] <cfraz89> x keeps crashing
[06:11] <camel> :>
[06:11] <DeadS0ul> wb
[06:11] <DeadS0ul> dist-upgrade
[06:11] <DeadS0ul> what'd you do that for?
[06:11] <bretzel> DeadS0ul: It's sad it doesn't works for you :-(
[06:11] <elijahlofgren> Belboz99: Me either. Sorry. Maybe try asking in the forums: http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[06:11] <DeadS0ul> bretzel: yeah =(
[06:11] <DeadS0ul> ah well compiz-kde might be usable soon enough
[06:11] <DeadS0ul> anyway, brb
[06:11] <cfraz89> dapper beta was released
[06:11] <camel> I use Dapper Drake
[06:12] <camel> but still XGL doesn't work
[06:12] <camel> ??
[06:12] <apokryphos> !xgl
[06:12] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[06:12] <cfraz89> so i did a dist-upgrade to come from flight 6
[06:12] <jeff_m> how do i install without loading a live session?
[06:12] <jeff_m> i keep reading about a text install method
[06:12] <jeff_m> and i want to do that
[06:12] <troy> jeff_m: install the other cd
[06:12] <cfraz89> jeff_m: yeah ther is an install cd
[06:13] <jeff_m> w?
[06:13] <bhna> jeff_m: you need the install-iso
[06:13] <apokryphos> jeff_m: /topic
[06:13] <jeff_m> i only saw one cd on the downlaod page
[06:13] <cfraz89> if apt-get upgrade doesnt fix this i think i will have to not use xgl for a while
[06:13] <troy> jeff_m: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.06/ -- scroll down
[06:14] <camel> Does XGL works on Dapper Drake flight 5 ??
[06:14] <cfraz89> DeadS0ul: ditched it?
[06:14] <apokryphos> camel: is there a reason for why you don't read what's posted to you? :/
[06:14] <cfraz89> camel: it should i guess
[06:14] <DeadS0ul> yeah for now
[06:14] <apokryphos> camel: dapper discussions go in #dapper+1 and XGL discussion belongs in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:14] <cfraz89> i think i might have to soon
[06:14] <camel> sorry guys
[06:14] <camel> :(
[06:14] <cfraz89> its ok
[06:14] <cfraz89> were all talking xgl anyway
[06:14] <DeadS0ul> oh
[06:14] <camel> :)
[06:15] <cfraz89> DeadS0ul: my x keeps crashing all of a sudden
[06:15] <cfraz89> ever since i upgraded to dapper beta
[06:15] <DeadS0ul> dpkg --purge compiz-gnome
[06:15] <DeadS0ul> ...uh..oops
[06:15] <cfraz89> good idea
[06:15] <cfraz89> thanks
[06:16] <cfraz89> ?
[06:16] <DeadS0ul> heh
[06:16] <cfraz89> camel: it should work on flight 5
[06:16] <cfraz89> the repos are the same
[06:17] <cfraz89> just make sure to use the quinndeb repos
[06:17] <bretzel> mmmm why not dist-upgrade ?
[06:17] <cfraz89> otherwise youll have an old compiz which doesnt work  at all with kde
[06:17] <cfraz89> dist-upgrade just broke my x lol :)
[06:18] <bretzel> cfraz89: from f5 to f6 ?
[06:18] <cfraz89> from f6 to beta
[06:18] <cfraz89> maybe im jumping the gun
[06:18] <cfraz89> but x restarted twice in a few minutes
[06:18] <DeadS0ul> ooo kdm themes
[06:18] <cfraz89> the only other time i got x crash was with kompmgr and opengl stuff
[06:18] <bretzel> nevertheless I just upgraded to beta through Synaptic... kde-3.5.2-ubuntu9
[06:19] <bretzel> and as well for xorg
[06:19] <cfraz89> so you only selectively upgraded?
[06:20] <bretzel> no, I did upgrade all...I have to say I didn't know what I was doing actually :-)
[06:20] <cfraz89> lol same
[06:20] <bretzel> lol
[06:20] <cfraz89> was my first dist-upgrade
[06:20] <bretzel> and by re-installing xserver-xorg ? doesn't fix?
[06:20] <camel> what should I do at first to fix XGL ??
[06:20] <cfraz89> i havent tried
[06:21] <bretzel> and dpkg reconf ?
[06:21] <cfraz89> camel: is it broken?
[06:21] <camel> some time ago I try to fix it but it wasn't working:/
[06:21] <cfraz89> my internet is going so slow for some reason
[06:22] <bretzel> seems I am really lucked then -- all things works ...mostly well for now :-)
[06:22] <bretzel> I am scared to reboot :-)
[06:22] <cfraz89> either that or both ubuntu mirrors and torrents are slow
[06:22] <cfraz89> no x crash again yet
[06:22] <cfraz89> maybe just bad coincedence
[06:22] <bretzel> cfraz89: Of course! beta is spreading all over the world !! :-)
[06:22] <cfraz89> ahh
[06:23] <cfraz89> and the torrents?
[06:23] <cfraz89> downloading 3 seasons of cardcaptor sakura
[06:23] <cfraz89> soooooooooo slooooooooooooooow
[06:23] <bretzel> I tried torrent once only and it is alway slower than direct download.
[06:23] <httpdss> camel: for xgl go to #ubuntu+1
[06:24] <solan> how do I add a table to a mysql db? been trying for 2houres, but I just can't seem to get it right... I'v set the privliges right for my use....
[06:24] <jeff_m> im trying to install off the live cd right now, but when i click install nothing happens
[06:24] <cfraz89> does this website work for anyone, konqueror 3.5.2?
[06:24] <cfraz89> http://www.netbank.commbank.com.au/netbank/:
[06:24] <cfraz89> it works in 3.5.0, and in firefox
[06:24] <cfraz89> sorry that : isnt meant to be there
[06:24] <justanotheruser> that's funny, top keeps giving me a new list every 2 seconds
[06:24] <jeff_m> anybody know why?
[06:25] <cfraz89> http://www.netbank.commbank.com.au/netbank/
[06:25] <bretzel> jeff_m: Me I can't reach the disk step...
[06:26] <jeff_m> could it be the cd?
[06:26] <httpdss> cfraz89: not me
[06:26] <cfraz89> httpdss: doesnt work for your konq?
[06:26] <httpdss> cfraz89: dosnt work for konq
[06:26] <bretzel> I can;t recall the URL, starting ffrom distrowatch, follow the links for kubuntu live beta and rhen there is a release readme for bugs for the installer
[06:26] <cfraz89> ok
[06:27] <cfraz89> thanks
[06:27] <_slash> Hey guys I have a question. Don't you think Kubuntu is a bit unstable?
[06:27] <cfraz89> i think i better file a bug report
[06:27] <cfraz89> _slash: solid as a rock for me, up till today
[06:27] <_slash> :)
[06:27] <cfraz89> i just upgraded and x has crashed twice
[06:27] <bretzel> _slash: it is actually BETA, I personally don;t expected to be that stable to me right now
[06:27] <cfraz89> but it is :)
[06:28] <_slash> I've got a problem with my CD drive
[06:28] <_slash> actually, i have 2
[06:28] <bhna> bretzel: beta?
[06:28] <_slash> It seems to eat my CDs
[06:28] <bhna> bretzel: breezy is stable and dapper is beta
[06:28] <_slash> and DVDs
[06:28] <cfraz89> id better go to sleep now, is 2:28 am
[06:28] <cfraz89> night all
[06:28] <_slash> bye
[06:29] <cfraz89> cya
[06:29] <bretzel> bhna: My kubuntu F6 installation is enough stable for me. -- I like to dig and fix things myself ( wiki is my friend )
[06:30] <_slash> I have Breezy and it sometimes eats my CDs and DVDs
[06:30] <_slash> Simply destroys them...
[06:30] <bretzel> how cd can be destroyed by an OS ?? It seems rather to be the laser beem that is over chraged ...
[06:30] <bhna> _slash: i think this is an hardwareproblem
[06:31] <_slash> I put CD in the drive tray and it says it's a wrong charset or mount problem
[06:31] <_slash> and later the disk is not usable
[06:31] <bretzel> ... hardware... likely
[06:31] <fotang> how do i configure soundcard? or tell kubuntu to use a particular soundcard, instead of it randomly choosing one?
[06:32] <fotang> kubuntu .ne. ubuntu, i hope
[06:32] <bretzel> fotang: what snd card do you have ?
[06:32] <DeadS0ul> fotang in modprobe.d crate a file named asound
[06:32] <DeadS0ul> and then add the lines
[06:32] <fotang> bretzel: i have two, different manufactures. forgot the names...
[06:32] <_slash> I think it doesn't detect some soundcards
[06:32] <DeadS0ul> alias snd-card-0 <perfered-sound-card-module>
[06:33] <DeadS0ul> options <prefered-sound-card-module> index=1
[06:33] <fotang> both cards work... kubuntu just used both at once
[06:33] <DeadS0ul> alias snd-card-0 <other-sound-card-module>
[06:33] <DeadS0ul> options <other-soundcard-module> index=2
[06:33] <bretzel> oh! I do have two me too, one onboard and one PCI Creative Live!, I disabled myu onboard and the PCI live! works fine
[06:33] <DeadS0ul> ..um wait it should be index=0 and 1 not...1 and 2
[06:33] <fotang> i paly an mp3 and output is sent to card1. i start a movie and outpur instead goes to card2 and so on
[06:33] <fotang> ok
[06:34] <_slash> Why oh why do most people make programs running only on Windows?
[06:34] <DeadS0ul> _slash: $$$
[06:34] <bretzel> fotang: uh... find what modules are loaded and disable the others putting it in the blacklist
[06:35] <DeadS0ul> naw don't do that
[06:35] <DeadS0ul> just use modprobe.d
[06:36] <bretzel> DeadS0ul: cool! I shutup meself then... :-)
[06:36] <fotang> bretzel: ok. now what if i want to use a particular card for one thing, and the other card for some other programs?
[06:36] <_slash> Where can I find a channel list?
[06:36] <fotang> ah... maybe ii select the card in the application. /dev/dsp0, dsp1 or so
[06:36] <jpatrick> _slash: bad idea but /list
[06:37] <bretzel> fotang: DeadS0ul is right, There should be a way for your programs to map the card you want...
[06:37] <_slash> floods my PC when I type it
[06:37] <jpatrick> _slash: F5 in Konversation
[06:37] <_slash> thx
[06:37] <fotang> that sounds reasonable...
[06:38] <fotang> thanx, i'll try that, before returning with a question about tv capture card and joystick. man, changin distros at my age....
[06:38] <bretzel> grrrr! forgot about xmodmap: can't map my keyboard layouts now with compiz( xgl ) -- can't remeber how to fix it ( retrieve my natural language kb: "cf" )
[06:39] <bretzel> fotang: How old are you then ? ( sorry if it is a private question :-) )
[06:40] <bretzel> he quits... :-(
[06:40] <bretzel> about "konversation" : Can't find a way to enable "emoticons" ...
[06:41] <bretzel> about age: I am 41 yrs old and really feel like a teenage when playing with linux :-)
[06:42] <jpatrick> bretzel: hey, that's me :)
[06:42] <bretzel> jpatrick: no! I thought I was the older here :-)
[06:42] <jpatrick> hey hey hey Snake__
[06:43] <Snake__> o no its jpatrick !
[06:43] <jpatrick> bretzel: not sure about oldest, but I think I am the youngest
[06:43] <Snake__> jpatrick: how come you never chill out in -offtopic?
[06:43] <jpatrick> hey why not?
[06:44] <Snake__> ZOMG THEY FIRED RIDELL
[06:44] <Snake__> :)
[06:44] <jpatrick> he fired me two days ago
[06:44] <bretzel> AFK I must do the dinner ofr the two children...  I am late!  :-O
[06:44] <Snake__> bad bretzel !
[06:44] <jpatrick> told me to come back straight after
[06:45] <_slash> Does anyone know why only few media players for Breezy can play mp3s?
[06:45] <Snake__> kids > linux!
[06:45] <bretzel> Snake__: What??? they fired RIDDLE ????
[06:45] <Snake__> ubotu: tell _slash about mp3
[06:45] <_vge> _slash: how meny you need?
[06:45] <jpatrick> bretzel: joking
[06:45] <Snake__> bretzel: I was kidding, because he left the IRC
[06:45] <_slash> amaroK playing mp3's would be nice
[06:45] <jpatrick> :O
[06:45] <bretzel> I am too much naive.... you got me :-(
[06:45] <jpatrick> _slash: it can
[06:46] <Snake__> _slash: Go to that webpage ubotu just told you
[06:46] <Snake__> it has directions on how to do it
[06:46] <Snake__> sNake: You here?
[06:46] <Snake__> I insist you remove your name at once.
[06:46] <bretzel> cya: My children really  need to lunch! :-)  (H)
[06:46] <jpatrick> or I will
[06:47] <Snake__> jpatrick: how long must a screen name be inactive before you can take it?
[06:47] <jpatrick> one month i think
[06:48] <Snake__> jpatrick: just 1 more week and I can finally get Snake and drop these damn underscores
[06:48] <jpatrick> Snake__: I think Riddell had a blackout
[06:48] <Snake__> jpatrick: me too ;)
[06:58] <Snake__> god it looks like a netsplit in here..
[06:58] <Snake__> lol
[07:04] <alh84001> hello
[07:04] <jpatrick> hi
[07:04] <bretzel> I need to talk with konqueror/kde developers staff: Dynamic java-menu ( dropdown) is messeup !
[07:04] <alh84001> hmmm....i should've put noob sufix :)
[07:05] <bretzel> playing dvd's with kaffeine is cool in glx :-)
[07:05] <alh84001> does anyone with experience of ubuntu on centrino platform care to lend a helping hand?
[07:06] <alh84001> i fought with my sound subsystem last day and night, and with general configuration of ubuntu the day before....so for a change i want some quick and simple answers :)
[07:08] <Snake__> alh84001: if ubuntu isnt cooperating with your hardware, not to be an a hole, but you could save youself a headache and try a diffrent OS
[07:08] <Snake__> alh84001: thats usually the best way to go with linux. Try to find another OS that DOES play nicly with your hardware, then if you still cant find one, then fight it with it
[07:09] <alh84001> snake it is cooperating...it just needed a push
[07:09] <alh84001> everything works now
[07:09] <Snake__> Oh
[07:10] <alh84001> i just need an information about how to uzilise intel's speedstep technology
[07:10] <Snake__> Is that OS dependant???
[07:10] <justanotheruser> !sgd
[07:10] <ubotu> justanotheruser: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:10] <alh84001> i believe you need drivers for that
[07:10] <justanotheruser> !supergrubdisk
[07:10] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, justanotheruser
[07:11] <Snake__> !fishing
[07:11] <ubotu> fishing is probably randomly throwing !commands in the channel instead of using /msg ubotu command. Please dont fish for help. either !ask in the channel or msg ubotu < Knows Everything!> :)
[07:11] <Snake__> alh84001: ah, im sorry, I have no info on that :(. perhaps try some googlin?
[07:12] <alh84001> i will
[07:12] <alh84001> tnx
[07:15] <justanotheruser> Snake__: it wasn't randomly, i was checking if it was known but the bot
[07:16] <justanotheruser> *by
[07:16] <bretzel> someone try: http://tuxinz.dnsalias.net/snapshot1.png  to see if my apache is reacheable from outside ...
[07:16] <Snake__> justanotheruser: /msg ubotu alright?
[07:16] <zendron> bretzel: it is
[07:16] <bretzel> yop seems to be ok, I see my routers's lights blinking
[07:17] <bretzel> zendron: thanks :-)!!!!
[07:17] <justanotheruser> Snake__: i'll do next time (didn't knew it was possible)
[07:17] <troy> ubotu: repos
[07:17] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:17] <Snake__> justanotheruser: no problem
[07:29] <troy> ubotu: codecs
[07:29] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[07:29] <troy> ubotu: mp3
[07:29] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:31] <Search4Lancer> Konversation question - how do you make new quick buttons, as displayed under Behavior>Quick buttons?
[07:36] <wasp_ems> hello
[07:37] <wasp_ems> i know this is quite a strange question but when u want to run an application through the console how do u do it?
[07:38] <wasp_ems> i have a file .sh and i do not know how to run in
[07:38] <wasp_ems> it
[07:38] <jpatrick> bash filename.sh
[07:39] <wasp_ems> thanx
[07:39] <wasp_ems> it does not work
[07:40] <elijahlofgren> wasp_ems: What error do you get?
[07:40] <wasp_ems> ok i found it
[07:42] <wasp_ems> basically i want to find what my modem exactly is so i can find the relevant drivers
[07:42] <wasp_ems> and i have visited the webpage of linuxant and i am trying to run a program that will tell me what my modem is but ...
[07:47] <HymnToLife> wasp_ems> but ?
[07:48] <wasp_ems> i get 3 lines that dont make sence to me
[07:48] <HymnToLife> Linuxant won't help if your modem is not built on a Conexant chip
[07:48] <wasp_ems> i know
[07:48] <HymnToLife> better go to www.linmodems.org for general information
[07:48] <wasp_ems> my modem is conexant
[07:48] <HymnToLife> well, pastebin those threee lines
[07:50] <wasp_ems> cat /proc/pci
[07:50] <wasp_ems> wrong
[07:50] <wasp_ems> awk: line 121: regular expression compile failed (missing '(')
[07:50] <wasp_ems> )
[07:50] <wasp_ems> awk: line 169: missing ) near end of line
[07:50] <wasp_ems> awk: line 178: extra ')'
[07:50] <wasp_ems> awk: line 178: extra ')'
[07:50] <wasp_ems> awk: line 184: extra ')'
[07:51] <HymnToLife> hmm
[07:51] <HymnToLife> but why do you neet to run this, I installed linuxant drivers a while ago and didn't need to install anythingjust download the deb
[07:52] <wasp_ems> cause it says to identify the chipset u have
[07:53] <HymnToLife> is that what you get when you run listmodem.sh ?
[07:53] <wasp_ems> yes
[07:54] <HymnToLife> now that's funny...
[07:54] <wasp_ems> :(
[07:54] <wasp_ems> not really
[07:54] <HymnToLife> anyway, go for the HSF driver, that's almost certainly what you need
[07:57] <troy> instead of bash filename.sh, try "sh filename.sh"
[07:57] <HymnToLife> or just ./filename.sh
[07:58] <wasp_ems> cool i donwloaded it...run it..and at the password field i put the password given but what do i put at the username?
[07:58] <wasp_ems> my own?
[08:00] <HymnToLife> if you're not given one, I think you shoul just leave it blank
[08:00] <wasp_ems> An error occurred while loading http://127.0.0.1:18021/cgi-bin/setup.cgi:
[08:00] <wasp_ems> Could not connect to host 127.0.0.1 (port 18021).
[08:01] <wasp_ems> that is what i get
[08:02] <wasp_ems> ok fixed it
[08:03] <wasp_ems> thanx allot
[08:07] <daveW> evenin' - I've got a USB drive question I'm hoping somene can help out with
[08:08] <Broxtor> daveW: What's the question?
[08:10] <daveW> When I plug in a USB stick/drive, it mounts to /media/device/, but I'd rather it went to /media/label/
[08:10] <daveW> I think it used to before I upgraded to KDE3.5.2 but I'm not sure
[08:10] <daveW> does that sound reasonable?
[08:14] <wasp_ems> ok i got a problem
[08:15] <wasp_ems> i did something and the only thing i can see is the irc console..i cannot move it and i cant seem to do anything...what can i do?
[08:15] <wasp_ems> the panels are also lost from the desktop
[08:16] <wasp_ems> if i was in windows i would say that i closed explorer..but here i dont know
[08:17] <daveW> wasp: any idea what it was you 'did'?
[08:17] <wasp_ems> no:P
[08:18] <daveW> wasp: ctrl+escape give you anything?
[08:18] <wasp_ems> yes the proccesses
[08:19] <wasp_ems> process
[08:19] <wasp_ems> any ideas?
[08:20] <wasp_ems> maybe i closed x window or something
[08:20] <daveW> wasp: ok - you have you got window decorations still?
[08:20] <wasp_ems> no
[08:21] <daveW> wasp:alt+tab?
[08:21] <wasp_ems> nothing
[08:22] <daveW> wasp: yeah, you did something - I don't know how helpful I'm being, but I would try and kill the session properly and log in again...
[08:22] <wasp_ems> ok
[08:22] <daveW> you know about different tty seesions?
[08:23] <wasp_ems> not really
[08:23] <wasp_ems> but i know u can change from one to another
[08:23] <wasp_ems> so do i kill x-session-manger?
[08:24] <daveW> er - I don't know about that, but you can try it. It's not what I would do though...
[08:24] <wasp_ems> ok what should i do?
[08:24] <wasp_ems> wait
[08:24] <wasp_ems> got an idea
[08:25] <Raven301> What is the lastest breezy version?
[08:25] <wasp_ems> i will log out
[08:25] <daveW> 'should' I don't know, but I would go to another session and kill the x-session from there
[08:25] <daveW> wasp:k - good luck
[08:25] <wasp_ems> thanx
[08:25] <wasp_ems> how to u open a new session
[08:25] <Raven301> Also What is the difference between breezy and dapper??
[08:25] <wasp_ems> ctrl and f11?
[08:25] <HymnToLife> Raven301> Breezy is the name for the 5.10 version of UBuntu
[08:26] <HymnToLife> and it's the letest stable, the version currently in testing phase is Dapper
[08:26] <daveW> wasp: ctrl+alt+f1 - log in and 'ps -fu' to get a process list, then 'kill' the x-seession processbut it's PID number
[08:27] <Raven301> HymnToLife, ok thanks ... So if I want the  latest kubuntu I get dapper? version # ??
[08:27] <daveW> wasp:ctrl+alt+f7 should bring you back if it doesn't work
[08:27] <HymnToLife> Dapper is in testing phase, you might get bugs with it
[08:27] <daveW> wasp: otherwise hit the rest button :|
[08:27] <HymnToLife> it will be released on June 1st
[08:28] <Raven301> HymnToLife, thanks for the info ... looking to download and try it out
[08:32] <Raven301> HymnToLife, I'm downloading kubuntu6.0.6-beta-live ... this is the new one?
[08:32] <HymnToLife> seems so
[08:32] <HymnToLife> but as it says, it's still a beta
[08:32] <wasp> 
[08:33] <HymnToLife> you might have problems with it
[08:33] <Raven301> kwel ... thanks for the help
[08:33] <Raven301> ok ... thanks for the warning
[08:33] <HymnToLife> and it's live, so you can't istall it
[08:33] <wasp> Raven301: ok i went into a new session which one should i close now?
[08:33] <Raven301> wasp, ?
[08:34] <wasp> maybe it was not u
[08:34] <Raven301> no not me
[08:34] <daveW> wasp: it was me do you now have 2 x-sessions running?
[08:34] <wasp> yep
[08:34] <wasp> :)
[08:35] <daveW> wasp: er kewl - does the new one have every thing you expect?
[08:35] <wasp> yep
[08:36] <daveW> wasp: but you still have the other one on crtl+alt+f7
[08:36] <wasp_ems> yes
[08:37] <daveW> wasp: ok, so you're wasp in the new one and wasp_ems in the old one?
[08:37] <wasp_ems> yep
[08:37] <daveW> wasp:I'd kill the old one
[08:37] <wasp_ems> how?
[08:38] <HymnToLife> /msgnickserv ghost wasp password <= if your nick is registered
[08:38] <wasp_ems> :S
[08:38] <HymnToLife> with a space after /msg of course :p
[08:39] <wasp_ems> no i dont want to register wasp..i will keep my old one..its just until a close the session
[08:39] <wasp_ems> which i do not know how
[08:39] <wasp_ems> what am i supposed to close from the process list
[08:41] <wasp_ems> davew:
[08:41] <wasp_ems> daveW:
[08:42] <daveW> wasp: I'm having a think
[08:42] <wasp> oh ok
[08:42] <daveW> anyone else feel free to chip in btw
[08:42] <wasp_ems> if i log out from the one?
[08:42] <daveW> try it - or alt+f4
[08:43] <wasp> ok i logged out
[08:43] <wasp> if i restart now it should be ok..right?
[08:44] <wasp> ok..thanx allot
[08:44] <wasp> bye bye
[08:44] <daveW> wasp: yeah good luck
[08:45] <daveW> Does anyone have any ideas how to get USB stick to mount by label not device?
[08:45] <jorik> is it possible to get opera to display all the movies and whatnot online im getting "plugin needed" messages now (for both mov's and wmv's) ?
[08:46] <HymnToLife> I don't think you can play either of them on linux
[08:46] <mart> sure, you can.
[08:46] <jorik> well yeah, i can *play* them, but not "inscreen"
[08:46] <jorik> i have to fire up xine and wget
[08:47] <mart> no idea how to do it in opera, but the mozilla-mplayer package works well for firefox
[08:57] <jacques> does anyone know how to configure KDM to use the xgl-server?
[08:58] <d-core> no sorry, I'm absolutely new to Kubuntu and KDE Environment
[08:59] <Chryseus> IIRC it's impossible at the moment
[09:04] <d-core> is there a kernel-source including ubuntu patches > 2.6.12 anywhere? Or does anyone know what they patched in?
[09:06] <LeeJunFan> d-core: dapper should be 2.6.15
[09:07] <d-core> LeeJunFan: yes, right, but I still run breezy and can't upgrade for some reasons, just need higher than .12 for debugging something
[09:07] <OdyX> uname -r
[09:07] <OdyX> 2.6.15-20-686
[09:08] <LeeJunFan> d-core: I mean you should be able to get the 2.6.15 source from dapper repos.
[09:08] <LeeJunFan> d-core: with ubuntu patches.
[09:08] <d-core> LeeJunFan: good idea, I'll try
[09:31] <RoeyInDisgust> HI!
[09:34] <RoeyInDisgust> anyone here?
[09:34] <d-core> RoeyInDisgust: don't know, need it for rt2xoo beta testing?
[09:34] <RoeyInDisgust> d-core:  I just need it in order to use this integrated wireless ;)
[09:35] <d-core> RoeyInDisgust: yes, me too, I have a card with rt61 chipset
[09:35] <RoeyInDisgust> ah
[09:35] <RoeyInDisgust> well over here it's the Intel Wireless Pro 3945 chipset
[09:35] <RoeyInDisgust> and that's a new driver as of...ilke...two-three weeks ago
[09:36] <d-core> same with the rt61, I didn't look careful enough before buying ;)
[09:37] <MerlinofChaos_> Hi, a quick question: How do I check where a certain package was installed?
[09:37] <d-core> MerlinofChaos_: whatca mean with "where"?
[09:38] <MerlinofChaos_> Where exactly it was installed...
[09:38] <asimov> How do I install opera?
[09:38] <asimov> dapper_beta
[09:38] <slow-motion> re
[09:38] <d-core> MerlinofChaos_: try dpkg -L packetname in konsole, will show you where all files from the package were installed
[09:38] <asimov> I can't seem to find it in the repositories
[09:38] <MerlinofChaos_> Ah, ok
[09:42] <_jeff> hey guys
[09:42] <_jeff> i just upgraded to beta
[09:43] <_jeff> got ndis wrapper working, but cant connect to my wireless network
[09:43] <_jeff> any ideas?
[09:44] <_robert_> how is the prefered way to update 5.10 to 6.06?
[09:44] <_jeff> or, i can connect to my network, but cant use the internet (cant even ping)
[09:44] <_robert_> the ubuntu guys use update-manager
[09:44] <_robert_> what to use under kubuntu?
[09:44] <_robert_> just an replacing the breeze entries with dapper in the sources.list and than apt-get dist-upgrade?
[09:44] <_jeff> thats what ive heard
[09:44] <jpatrick> yep
[09:45] <_robert_> jpatrick: that yep was for my question?
[09:45] <jpatrick> yep (and this one)
[09:47] <_jeff> has anybody had my problem before?
[09:49] <_jeff> lol
[09:49] <_jeff> lively bunch today
[09:54] <d-core> _jeff: everything worked fine before, under breezy?
[09:54] <_jeff> yeah
[09:55] <_jeff> d-core: everything was fine, but i was using ndisgtk
[09:55] <_jeff> d-core: and i did a complete reinstall for dapper
[09:55] <_jeff> d-core: i downloaded the cd and installed it that way, reformatting and everything
[09:55] <d-core> _jeff: ifconfig and route output lookes ok?
[09:56] <_jeff> yeah man
[09:56] <_jeff> its very strange
[09:56] <_jeff> i just changed a few things in my interfaces file, im restarting now to see if it worked
[09:56] <d-core> _jeff: sorry, I have no solution right know
[09:56] <_jeff> :/
[09:57] <_jeff> what does remote closed the connection mean?
[10:00] <d-core> maybe your access point wasn't satisfied with something and said no way? *wild guess*
[10:00] <_jeff> lol thats it!
[10:00] <_jeff> thank you so much
[10:00] <_jeff> lol
[10:01] <_jeff> ok now things are messing up worse
[10:01] <_jeff> i changed one thing in interfaces, now my computer wont boot into kde
[10:01] <_jeff> it goes through the boot labours, then it just sits there
[10:02] <_jeff> looking at me
[10:02] <_jeff> waiting for me to do something
[10:02] <d-core> can you access console?
[10:02] <_jeff> no :(
[10:03] <Manta> is the installer on the live 6.06 beta CD suposed to be working?
[10:03] <d-core> press ESC during grub loading and boot the secure boot option
[10:03] <_jeff> lol i just did that
[10:04] <_jeff> Manta i dont know, i just dled the beta cd and the installer didnt work for me
[10:04] <Manta> ok, me too, I thoguht I was getting the install CD but I got the wrong one, I guess 7 more hours, thanks anyway and good luck with your problem I'm still a nub
[10:05] <d-core> _jeff: oops, well, got any lice CD for booting, than mount your / and have a look into the logfiles
[10:05] <Snake__> its admrl ...
[10:07] <_jeff> i may have messed something up in the xorg.conf
[10:09] <Xemanth^^> _jeff: lol that was very informative error msg
[10:09] <d-core> _jeff: try to boot a live CD, mount your root fs and edit things
[10:15] <admrl> Snake__ whats up..?
[10:16] <jpatrick> the sky
[10:16] <Snake__> admrl: not much :)
[10:16] <Seantater> The sky is not up?!
[10:16] <admrl> duh
[10:17] <jpatrick> Seantater: so what you're saying is... you're a bat?
[10:17] <Seantater> Sure!
[10:17] <_jeff> not much mang
[10:17] <Seantater> Bling Bling Blag -- you're the winner
[10:17] <admrl> brb i need to try to maek some icons
[10:19] <_jeff> d-core: it turned out that i crashed my x by adding something to my xorg.conf that didnt work with dapper
[10:19] <d-core> _jeff: removed it and now it works?
[10:19] <_jeff> i commented it out
[10:19] <d-core> well *g*
[10:20] <_jeff> i was trying to enable the composite manager
[10:20] <d-core> what is that?
[10:20] <_jeff> gives drop shadowns on windows and true transparency and stuff
[10:21] <d-core> that's why I don't know it with an S3 in laptop and matrox in workstations
[10:22] <justanotheruser> since i use dapper (flight4) and up to the beta, my second harddrive gets power off when i don't use it? Is this dangrous for my data?
[10:22] <_jeff> i dont think so
[10:23] <_jeff> no it shouldnt be
[10:23] <justanotheruser> i can here it spinning up when i try to access it
[10:23] <_jeff> you can probably chane the power saving settings for that too
[10:23] <_jeff> yeah
[10:23] <Spudchat> hi, is there anyway to have my ssh-agent stay alive? like when i close the shell i started it in and open a new one?
[10:25] <DjDarkman> hy , i tried to install captive and get this error ,what does it mean?
[10:25] <DjDarkman> ./install: line 58: /sbin/chkconfig: No such file or directory
[10:26] <DjDarkman> what is this /sbin/chkconfig supposed to be?
[10:26] <_jeff> ur compiling from source?
[10:27] <DjDarkman> no ,this is a bash script
[10:28] <DjDarkman> but i don`t know what is this /sbin/chkconfig
[10:29] <d-core> DjDarkman: is there a file chkconfig in your /sbin?
[10:30] <DjDarkman> nope d-core
[10:31] <d-core> DjDarkman: and your installer want's to use it, in line 58 of the installscript, Well, I don't know in which package chkconfig is, sorry
[10:33] <solan> can any1 help me add a table to a db? I just can't get it to do it...
[10:34] <_jeff> i dont know much about what ur talking about
[10:34] <d-core> DjDarkman: google says a lot about 'chkconfig +ubuntu' maybe you find help there
[10:35] <solan> add a table to a already existing database with mysql..
[10:36] <jeremia> hello
[10:37] <jeremia> my ALSA can't handle different programms using it at the same time, e.g. skype and amaroK
[10:37] <jeremia> is it possible to get this run?
[10:38] <hastour> hi! I'm struggling to get printing to work ( "can't connect to cups" bug ), I read that it helps to add a printer from localhost:631, but it gives me "operation timeout". But cups is running... Anyone can help me with this?
[10:41] <Zenethian> argh, artsd is always such a leaky memory whore.
[10:46] <jetmir> salve
[10:46] <jetmir> posso chidere un aiuto??
[10:46] <bimberi> !tell hastour about cupsweb
[10:47] <_jeff> !tell _jeff about dapper
[10:50] <hastour> bimberi: i did what the bot told me to, but still no luck.  I can't access cups web interface at all, not just the administrative functions...
[10:53] <bimberi> hastour: does 'ps auxw | grep cupsd' include a like like "cupsys    9529  0.0  0.4   4192  1876 ?        Ss   06:50   0:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd"
[10:54] <hastour> bimberi: yes, it prints something like this
[10:54] <bimberi> hastour: kk
[10:55] <bimberi> hastour: does 'sudo netstat -plunt | grep cups' output anything?
[10:56] <hastour> bimberi: nothing
[10:58] <bimberi> hastour: 'sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart' comes up with "[ok] "?
[10:59] <hastour> bimberi: yes
[10:59] <Raven301> When I run adept Manager I get error apt database could not open - try run apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal ??
[11:00] <bimberi> hastour: sorry i'm struggling now - from here i can only think of some firewall rule preventing access :|
[11:02] <Raven301> What could be wrong with the adept manager??
[11:03] <hastour> bimberi: I've disabled firewall, didn't help. Thanks for trying anyway.
[11:04] <d-core> Raven301: don't know, I come from plain Debian and am used to aptitude and console, have you tried that?
[11:05] <Raven301> d-core: i'll try it .... so type aptitude in console
[11:06] <d-core> Raven301: better do 'sudo aptitude' for to be root
[11:06] <Raven301> ok
[11:07] <Raven301> d-core: yep that worked
[11:07] <d-core> great
[11:11] <d-core> anyone with Kubuntu on a Thinkpad?
[11:16] <asimov> Should prelinking take hours?
[11:20] <Otherland> hi...I've got (another( simple question.. is it possible to put the data from the kubuntu cd on to the harddrive and let kubuntu use that instead of the cd ?
[11:23] <d-core> Otherland: must be, under Debian it is, and Ubuntu is Debian when it comes to package management, but I can't tell how to set it up, but their must be howtos on some Debian sites
[11:23] <solan> can anyone tell me where the mysql.txt is located?
[11:27] <OdyX> solan: on YOUR system ?
[11:28] <OdyX> solan: sudo updatedb
[11:28] <OdyX> solan: locate mysql.txt
[11:28] <Otherland> d-core: thanks..I'll check the sites (google...hehe)
[11:28] <solan> thx;)
[11:28] <OdyX> Curiosity: does anybody have installed Hurd from Ubuntu (on separate partition) ?
[11:30] <slow-motion> n8
[11:38] <OdyX> anybody able to have flash videos ?
[11:47] <d-core> bye4now
[11:56] <Raven301> Where is the boot loader located?
[11:56] <jjoseph> newbie here, anyone talking?
[11:57] <Raven301> just another newbie :)
[11:57] <pha_2222> I hear ya
[11:58] <pha_2222> hmmm freenode is pretty small
[11:58] <pha_2222> raven: have you come across anyone friendly?
[11:59] <Raven301> here?
[11:59] <pha_2222> yes
[11:59] <Raven301> pha_2222: d-core was
[12:00] <pha_2222> thanks, if one was, perhaps more will be
[12:00] <pha_2222> I used to be on irc a lot, but it just got too mean for me
[12:01] <HymnToLife> mean ?
[12:01] <IgKh> The boot loader? in /boot/grub/
[12:01] <pha_2222> hymn: mean, cruel, acrymonious.... and otherwise unpleasant
[12:02] <HymnToLife> really ?
[12:02] <HymnToLife> I never felt IRC was mean
[12:02] <pha_2222> hymn: perhaps it was the servers I was on, or the rooms I had found
[12:02] <HymnToLife> depends on the channels you go to I guess, #ubuntu definitely is not mean
[12:03] <pha_2222> well that is good
[12:03] <pha_2222> does anyone here know about mpich?
[12:04] <IgKh> It's good to find people talking this late in the night
[12:04] <pha_2222> seems unlikely, but hope springs eternal :D