[01:20] <LaserJock> everybody must be busily installing the Dapper beta
[01:23] <Kyral> No I was sitting in a computer lab waiting for a script to run that ran an experiment for me
[01:25] <crimsun> I'm valgrinding
[01:25] <crimsun> I do not recommend interstate driving on no sleep, btw.
[01:26] <Se7h> rofl crimsun
[01:27] <Se7h> hi all btw
[01:28] <LaserJock> I was trying to figure out how to distil paint thinner ;-)
[01:30] <LaserJock> and waiting until I can get home and put my box back together, so I can install Beta
[02:49] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone confirm a package issue with network-manager-gnome on ubuntu beta?
[02:49] <FunnyLookinHat> The error dialog says "The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources.  It cannot continue."
[02:49] <FunnyLookinHat> and console returned a ton of identical lines saying
[02:49] <FunnyLookinHat> (nm-applet:5689): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[02:52] <crimsun> might actually be better addressed in the forum/bug tracker
[02:55] <FunnyLookinHat> Heh, I'm hesitant to add another bug to the already 18 present
[02:57] <FunnyLookinHat> !bug
[02:58] <Se7h> congrats on the new update icon :> its cute
[03:03] <FunnyLookinHat> Ok, bug reported for network-manager-gnome not starting up.
[03:04] <crimsun> 'morning, Hobbsee
[03:06] <ajmitch> hi Hobbsee
[03:06] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:06] <crimsun> &ajmitch
[03:07] <ajmitch> hello crimsun
[03:07] <ajmitch> how are you?
[03:07] <crimsun> not bad, yourself?
[03:08] <ajmitch> alright :)
[03:09] <crimsun> great :)
[03:10] <ajmitch> and the walls resonating nicely
[03:11] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:11] <Hobbsee> always fun
[03:11] <ajmitch> I wish they'd stop digging up the road
[03:11] <ajmitch> for awhile this morning we had no water pressure either
[03:20] <ajmitch> so what are people up to today? :)
[03:21] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: banning bots :P
[03:21] <ajmitch> yay
[03:21] <ajmitch> how exciting
[03:21] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:24] <FunnyLookinHat> reporting network-manager bugs  ^_^;;
[03:59] <LaserJock> hi ajmitch and Hobbsee
[03:59] <Hobbsee> hey LaserJock
[04:00] <ajmitch> hello LaserJock
[04:00] <ajmitch> how's it going?
[04:00] <LaserJock> oh alright
[04:00] <LaserJock> I spent the day trying to figure out how to distill paint thinner
[04:01] <crimsun> successful?
[04:01] <LaserJock> I think so
[04:01] <crimsun> well, that beats the pants off my valgrinding :)
[04:01] <LaserJock> heh, I don't know
[04:02] <LaserJock> I still have to pass it by my boss, we are supposed to avoid stills if we can
[04:02] <ajmitch> heh
[04:02] <LaserJock> too many fires
[04:02] <ajmitch> in case you get caught distilling other liquids? :)
[04:03] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:03] <LaserJock> no,  although we have to have paperwork if we by absolute ethanol
[04:03] <LaserJock> s/by/buy/
[04:04] <Hobbsee> hehehe
[04:06] <LaserJock> I was able to by good quality methanol and acetone, but I have to do my own water and toluene
[04:09] <LaserJock> darn it, why can't I spell buy today
[04:12] <crimsun> better than misplacing that 'u' into 'my'
[04:12] <crimsun> by and muy
[04:12] <crimsun> I've had a few days like that
[04:17] <zul> hey
[04:17] <ajmitch> hi zul
[04:17] <zul> hey ajmitch
[04:19] <LaserJock> hi zul and hub
[04:24] <bddebian> Heya gang
[04:24] <crimsun> uh oh, the deity's here
[04:25] <bddebian> :'-(
[04:25] <LaserJock> hi bddebian
[04:26] <bddebian> I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO WORSHIP ME!!
[04:26] <bddebian> Hi LaserJock
[04:29] <crimsun> just because he's a deity doesn't at all imply any sort of worship
[04:31] <bddebian> crimsun: Why do you taunt me man :-(
[04:31] <Hobbsee> hi bddebian
[04:31] <crimsun> taunt? pssht.
[04:31] <bddebian> Hi Hobbsee
[04:31] <ajmitch> hello bddebian
[04:31] <crimsun> it's your "fault" you built up all that karma ;)
[04:32] <bddebian> Hiya ajmitch
[04:32] <ajmitch> bddebian: how's it going?
[04:32] <bddebian> How much do I have now?
[04:32] <ajmitch> probably about 10x as much as the rest of us put together
[04:32] <bddebian> ajmitch: Lousy, I ache all over. :-)  You?
[04:32] <ajmitch> I'm alright :)
[04:32] <ajmitch> a bit hungry
[04:32] <ajmitch> thanks
[04:35] <bddebian> Are we OK for uploads right now?
[04:35] <Kyral> Hey
[04:35] <ajmitch> bddebian: yep, beta is out
[04:38] <bddebian> Hyea Kyral
[04:38] <bddebian> ajmitch: Cool thanks.  Does that mean syncs are gonna start too?
[04:38] <ajmitch> bddebian: yeah
[04:40] <zul> does this also mean that if there is a bug with new version we can actually do something with it?
[04:41] <ajmitch> zul: you mean UVF exceptions?
[04:41] <zul> yeah..
[04:42] <zul> like 4394
[04:44] <ajmitch> zul: you mean a merge bug that probably should have been closed?
[04:44] <zul> yeah
[04:44] <ajmitch> it's not an approved UVF exception
[04:45] <zul> ok...just making sure...night night
[05:17] <LaserJock> darn it, is it common for the pins for the on-off switch on the front of a case to not fit on the MB
[05:18] <Kyral> no....
[05:18] <Lathiat> yeh
[05:18] <Lathiat> i've only ever had problems with the power led
[05:19] <Lathiat> which can be 3 or 2 pin
[05:20] <LaserJock> well, on my case they are all hooked together
[05:21] <LaserJock> in one row
[05:21] <LaserJock> but on the MB they are in two rows
[05:27] <LaserJock> dang it, I don't want to ditch this case
[05:57] <LaserJock> grrr
[05:59] <bddebian> LaserJock: ?
[06:03] <LaserJock> bddebian: I was going to switch MBs but the pins on my case (LED and power switch) don't match my MB
[06:05] <LaserJock> I really like this case though
[06:05] <bddebian> So fix it :)
[06:06] <LaserJock> bddebian: can't I give it to you to fix ;-)
[06:06] <bddebian> Sure3
[06:06] <bddebian> -3
[06:12] <LaserJock> hmm, anybody know how to get the wires out of the black pins
[06:13] <bddebian> There is usually a small flat clip that you have to pull out a little with like a needle or a small knife blade, then yank the wire straight out
[06:14] <LaserJock> bddebian: k, thanks
[06:14] <bddebian> NP
[06:14] <bddebian> Now, bow to me.. ;-P
[06:15] <bddebian> Bah :-)
[06:31] <bddebian> Gnight folks, good luck LaserJock :-)
[09:20] <dholbach> HAPPY HUG DAY
[09:21] <chillywilly> :-o
[09:33] <Yagisan> G'day all
[09:41] <freeflying> dholbach: ping
[09:41] <dholbach> hey freeflying
[09:42] <freeflying> dholbach: we have comment on bug 36168
[09:42] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 36168 in cmake "need new release for build kde4 package " [Normal,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/36168
[09:42] <freeflying> dholbach: will you have a look , and cmake 2.4.0 is out
[09:43] <dholbach> freeflying: i just started reading the 1500 mails I got since yesterday
[09:43] <freeflying> dholbach: unfotuenately , author hasn't provide the Changelog
[09:44] <dholbach> freeflying: i'm more concerend about the packages build-depending on it
[09:45] <freeflying> dholbach: all kde4 stuff
[09:45] <dholbach> which packages in Ubuntu?
[09:45] <dholbach> I know that we took a look at one tiny change in imake - and all the */X11R6/* directories changed
[09:46] <freeflying> dholbach: no kde4 package in ubuntu now
[09:46] <dholbach> the change would have been nice to have, but we decided two months ago, that it's too risky
[09:46] <dholbach> freeflying: so you're saying no package build-depends on it?
[09:46] <freeflying> dholbach: just now
[09:47] <freeflying> dholbach: if we prepare on kde4 , then we need it
[09:47] <dholbach> i just don't see why we need it in dapper now
[09:47] <dholbach> it's a 100000 line changes
[09:49] <freeflying> we just wanna have it , so anyone wanna build kde4 can use it smoothly
[09:49] <dholbach> can you follow up with that information on the bug?
[09:49] <dholbach> I'd like to talk to siretart and slomo about it
[09:50] <dholbach> and Riddell maybe too
[09:50] <siretart> morning
[09:50] <freeflying> dholbach: thx
[09:51] <dholbach> hey siretart - happy hug day
[09:51] <siretart> dholbach: and I'm currently at work. But I will join you all this afternoon!
[09:52] <siretart> freeflying: please compile a list of reverse build dependencies of cmake, and submit that to the malone bug. I asked you for that yesterday
[09:52] <dholbach> siretart: take your time
[09:52] <siretart> freeflying: you can use grep-dctrl for that
[09:53] <freeflying> siretart: got it
[09:58] <Tm_T> ha
[09:59] <Tm_T> dholbach: yeah, cmake is not basic users need, but (wannabe)devels like me ;)
[10:00] <Tm_T> dholbach: so it would keep powerusers in Ubuntu
[10:00] <dholbach> if you build stuff for edgy with it, it makes sense to have it in edgy
[10:00] <Tm_T> dholbach: that is the plan
[10:00] <dholbach> i'm just slightly concerned to get a 100000 line change in
[10:00] <dholbach> Tm_T: freeflying wants to have it in now
[10:00] <Tm_T> dholbach: I would have it too
[10:00] <dholbach> 5 weeks before release
[10:01] <freeflying> dholbach: not onle me , Riddell also wanna
[10:01] <Tm_T> dholbach: true, bad time, but we need it for summer
[10:01] <Tm_T> dholbach: and over summer
[10:01] <dholbach> it'll be in edgy for sure
[10:01] <Tm_T> because then will happen a lot work around KDE4 I hope
[10:02] <Tm_T> anyway, I can always compile cmake myself
[10:03] <Tm_T> ...actually I will do it now, will help my next weeks tasks a lot ->
[10:03] <dholbach> I'm not being a killjoy for the sake of it - I want to have more facts at hand to take this decision
[10:04] <Tm_T> dholbach: true, and I have no idea what facts you need =)
[10:04] <Tm_T> dholbach: maybe we wait for edgy :)
[10:04] <dholbach> anything that makes me feel good and forget that it's 100 000 lines of changes in a key part of infrastructure will do :)
[10:04] <Tm_T> haha
[10:04] <siretart> it isn't that hard to setup local repos after all. We are really close to release now and have to make sure that we don't break anything
[10:05] <Tm_T> siretart: true
[10:05] <Tm_T> so, I'd say edgy if nothing new and revolutionary happens
[10:06] <siretart> I also setup a local repo for xen stuff in dapper
[10:07] <siretart> but I'm not going to upload it to dapper. even given that it works fine for me [tm] 
[10:07] <Tm_T> haha
[10:08] <siretart> ?
[10:12] <Tm_T> siretart: exactly, because "works fine for me" doesn't quarantee anything :)
[10:12] <siretart> right
[10:42] <phanatic> mornin
[10:50] <phanatic> hi raphink
[10:51] <raphink> hi phanatic
[12:06] <zakame> hi all
[12:06] <phanatic> hey zakame
[12:07] <zakame> hi phanatic
[01:55] <CraiZE> hey
[01:56] <CraiZE> anyone awake?
[01:57] <CraiZE> hi _jason
[01:57] <_jason> CraiZE: hey :)
[01:57] <CraiZE> hey hey ;)
[01:57] <CraiZE> uhm say
[01:57] <CraiZE> i wrote an application the other day for ubuntu
[01:57] <CraiZE> how do you get someone to review it
[01:58] <CraiZE> to go into the repo ?
[01:59] <_jason> I'm trying to learn how to properly package something for motu, I came across gTVlistings at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates which doesn't seem to have any comments.  Can I just give it a try and put it up on REVU?
[01:59] <_jason> CraiZE: note sure, I'm quite new to motu as well as you can see
[01:59] <CraiZE> yeah i noticed
[01:59] <Gloubiboulga> CraiZE, _jason, if you think that the packages are ready to be reviewed, upload them on REVU
[02:00] <CraiZE> i never made a package
[02:00] <CraiZE> its python scripts :)
[02:00] <Gloubiboulga> CraiZE, python scripts can be packaged as well ;)
[02:00] <_jason> I haven't actually started making the package, but I am about to.  Just wondering if I should do anything beforehand (other than read the docs and learn the process)?
[02:00] <CraiZE> ah okay ;)
[02:02] <phanatic> _jason: i think that will be enough
[02:02] <Gloubiboulga> _jason, build your package if you've read the doc :)
[02:02] <Gloubiboulga> hi phanatic
[02:02] <phanatic> hey Gloubiboulga :)
[02:02] <_jason> phanatic, Gloubiboulga: cool, thanks
[02:49] <zul> heylo
[03:30] <dholbach> you know how to talk to people :-p
[03:31] <tseng> there you go.
[03:31] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:32] <Hobbsee> :D
[03:32] <Hobbsee> hugged twice - yay!
[03:32] <tseng> dholbach: mdz is better at cluing people, i can be too mean sometimes
[03:32] <zul> tseng: you dont say ;)
[03:33] <tseng> not that some people dont deseve it :)
[03:35] <tseng> good morning
[03:35] <chillywilly> ello mates
[03:35] <Mithrandir> actually almost end of day here, but yeah.
[03:36] <Mithrandir> how's .au today?
[03:36] <Hobbsee> it got taken over by sheep.
[03:36] <Mithrandir> I thought they were supposed to be on the other (relativetly) nearby island?
[03:37] <Hobbsee> the nearby island built catapults, and flung them over here
[03:38] <chillywilly> ajmitchie rules
[03:40] <Hobbsee> :P
[03:43] <nomed> ogra: have you already an idea how what you'll use to code that "branding gui tool" ?
[03:44] <ogra> nomed, not beyond it being python and GTK ... and probably a split front/backend to make Riddell happy ;)
[03:44] <ogra> hmm, probably doesnt make sense ...
[03:44] <ogra> since it will use gdm and gconf ...
[03:45] <Riddell> what tool is this?
[03:45] <ogra> feel free  to add suggestions to my mail :)
[03:45] <ogra> Riddell, see my RFC mail to -devel
[03:45] <ogra> but we'd have to develop it together if it should be cross desktop
[03:45] <nomed> ogra: i was thinking on somthing similar ... i'll help as soon i get how i can do that :)
[03:46] <ogra> its only the draft of a spec yet ... nothing concrete ... feel free to flech it out more :)
[03:47] <Riddell> sounds a bit like KDE's theme tool
[03:47] <ogra> that grabs system settings and creates an artwork .deb ?
[03:49] <dholbach> ogra: some of the artwork stuff needs a proper buildsystem
[03:49] <dholbach> ogra: like installations of icons, translations etc - dunno if it's that easy
[03:49] <ogra> dholbach, to create a set of gconf keys ?
[03:50] <ogra> i only talk about branding ... i.e. themes that exist and can just be called
[03:52] <dholbach> ahhhh right
[03:52] <dholbach> you said something about "creates a package"
[03:52] <dholbach> that's why I wondered
[03:53] <bddebian> Heya gang
[03:55] <Gloubiboulga> hello bddebian
[03:56] <Hobbsee> hi bddebian
[04:15] <sladen> oh, do you have Nathalie's details anyway?
[04:15] <sladen> bah.  my windows are the wrong numbers
[04:16] <bddebian> Heya Gloubiboulga, Hobbsee, sladen
[04:27] <zul> i guess its time to fix some universe bugs
[04:28] <bddebian> Yeah, I gotta get back to work.  I can't let you catch my karma.. ;-P
[04:28] <zul> oh i think i can...eventually
[04:40] <LaserJock> hi bddebian
[04:43] <LaserJock> heh, I'm dist-upgrading and I have 119 packages to upgrade and will save 389K
[04:44] <bddebian> yeah
[04:44] <LaserJock> usually I use more disk space upgrading not less ;-)
[04:44] <LaserJock> bddebian: btw, thanks for that tip on getting those wires out
[04:45] <bddebian> It worked?
[04:45] <LaserJock> yep
[04:45] <bddebian> Sweet
[04:45] <LaserJock> I moved the power switch, HD led, and power led pins from my old case over
[04:46] <LaserJock> the HD doesn't seem to work but the power works fine
[04:46] <LaserJock> HD led that is
[04:48] <zul> bddebian: thats one closed im catching up ;)
[04:48] <bddebian> Doh
[04:48] <bddebian> bbias
[05:02] <CraiZE> anyone awake? :)
[05:03] <hub> awake
[05:03] <bddebian> Nope
[05:03] <CraiZE> well
[05:03] <bddebian> <-- Not enough coffee yet
[05:03] <CraiZE> i wrote a program i would like someone to package for me :)
[05:03] <LaserJock> bddebian: it is even earlier here ;-)
[05:03] <CraiZE> and i rather spend time developing, then learning how to package
[05:03] <CraiZE> so anyone intressted in doing that "dirty" job for me? :)
[05:04] <bddebian> LaserJock: I don't do mornings well :-)
[05:04] <LaserJock> bddebian: me neither but the wife had a 7:30 thing today
[05:04] <LaserJock> CraiZE: what kind of app is it?
[05:04] <CraiZE> its a mount tool
[05:05] <CraiZE> like daemon-tools in windows
[05:05] <CraiZE> tray icon to mount / unmount
[05:05] <CraiZE> or an UI
[05:05] <CraiZE> its written in pyGTK
[05:05] <CraiZE> i can send you the current version if you want ?
[05:05] <LaserJock> CraiZE: our current procedure is to put packages on a candidate list
[05:06] <CraiZE> aha
[05:06] <CraiZE> well its not a package
[05:06] <CraiZE> its a .tar.gz :P
[05:06] <CraiZE> i wanted some1 to package it
[05:06] <CraiZE> so i can put it on the candidate list
[05:06] <LaserJock> CraiZE: yeah, that is what I meant. Apps people want packaged. it is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates
[05:06] <CraiZE> all this bureaucracy for just releasing software to help people is truly annoying (to me atleast)
[05:06] <azeem> CraiZE: what does it do differently to the drivemount applet?
[05:06] <CraiZE> drivemount applet?
[05:07] <CraiZE> i dont know the drivemount applet
[05:07] <azeem> it's in gnome-applest
[05:07] <azeem> eh -applets
[05:07] <CraiZE> lemme look
[05:07] <LaserJock> CraiZE: there really isn't much of any bureaucracy in Ubuntu, somebody just has to do it
[05:07] <CraiZE> there is no drivemount applet
[05:08] <CraiZE> on my repos
[05:08] <CraiZE> you mean Disk Mounter?
[05:08] <CraiZE> well
[05:08] <CraiZE> http://craize.x-ware.org/?path=isomount/
[05:08] <CraiZE> you can try it out
[05:09] <CraiZE> its like daemon-tools, it has a tray icon, or a stand alone GUI
[05:09] <CraiZE> you can mount / unmount (it does mount -o loop) anything that your system supports
[05:09] <CraiZE> like .ISO / .NRG, or entire filesystems using mount
[05:10] <CraiZE> it gives you easy access to quickly mount or unmount different kinds of filesystems, in a user friendly way
[05:10] <azeem> CraiZE: how does it cope with stuff which is not in fstab?
[05:10] <azeem> Does it use gksudo? Or is it suid?
[05:10] <CraiZE> it uses gksudo, so it doesnt care about fstab
[05:11] <CraiZE> azeem, are you intressted in making a package out of it?
[05:12] <azeem> I probably wouldn't use it myself
[05:12] <azeem> and I got enough packages already :-/
[05:12] <azeem> (and I can't upload to Ubuntu anyway)
[05:13] <CraiZE> then allow me to wonder, why you asking all these questions?
[05:13] <CraiZE> you are asking*
[05:13] <azeem> because I was curious
[05:13] <CraiZE> ah okay ;)
[05:13] <CraiZE> hrm
[05:14] <LaserJock> CraiZE: but azeem can be very helpful :-)
[05:14] <CraiZE> oh i don't doubt that
[05:14] <bddebian> azeem: Well become an MOTU then ;-)
[05:14] <azeem> personally, I think it would be nicer if you could just browse into an .ISO if you double-click on an icon in nautilus
[05:14] <CraiZE> i just didn't want to go through the process of having to learn stuff
[05:14] <LaserJock> bddebian: he did become a member
[05:14] <CraiZE> azeem, its in beta stages
[05:15] <CraiZE> so yes, i am thinking of doing that also
[05:15] <bddebian> LaserJock: Really?
[05:15] <bddebian> azeem: You have joined The Dark Side? :-)
[05:15] <LaserJock> CraiZE: well, I think the point is that we would like to see if there is already an app that has the same functionality
[05:15] <CraiZE> well there is not
[05:16] <CraiZE> i searched for it, and never found it
[05:16] <CraiZE> but i would greatly appreciate it if you tried it the app out, and see if you see a similarity with another app ;)
[05:16] <LaserJock> well, in gnome the drive mount applet seems close
[05:16] <CraiZE> no
[05:16] <LaserJock> but that is only for gnome, and maybe xfce
[05:16] <CraiZE> i have ~1TB of network drives mount
[05:17] <CraiZE> and that clutters an entire bar
[05:17] <CraiZE> which is using /etc/fstab
[05:17] <CraiZE> so its really different
[05:17] <CraiZE> here you can browse to the iso you want to mount
[05:17] <CraiZE> or FS
[05:17] <CraiZE> and it mounts, within 2 clicks or 3 ;)
[05:17] <CraiZE> and unmount with 2 clicks ;)
[05:18] <CraiZE> i will have to look how to get support from nautilus
[05:18] <CraiZE> so nautilus tells my code the entire path / file
[05:18] <CraiZE> so i can mount it :)
[05:20] <LaserJock> CraiZE: ok, well I'd put it on that wiki page I gave you. Dapper is basically closed to new packages at this point but the next release will open up after 6.06 is released and it could be included then.
[05:20] <CraiZE> ok
[05:21] <CraiZE> well i will further enhance it
[05:21] <LaserJock> yeah, that would be cool
[05:21] <CraiZE> i will do the double click support ;)
[05:21] <LaserJock> sure, that would be nice
[05:22] <CraiZE> i know most of you dont care about such apps, but windows users do :P
[05:23] <LaserJock> heah, I would probably like it
[05:28] <jpatrick> sladen: ping
[05:36] <CraiZE> yay
[05:36] <CraiZE> i actually made it double clickable
[05:36] <CraiZE> ;D
[05:37] <LaserJock> cool
[05:42] <CraiZE> yup
[05:42] <CraiZE> think i will make a bash script, so its easier to make it work :)
[06:19] <LaserJock> bmonty!
[06:20] <bmonty> hey LaserJock
[06:21] <CraiZE> LaserJock, http://craize.x-ware.org/index.php?path=mountool/
[06:21] <CraiZE> its the new version
[06:21] <LaserJock> bmonty: how's it going?
[06:21] <CraiZE> with nautilus support, UI, and tray icon :)
[06:22] <bmonty> LaserJock: very busy, you?
[06:22] <LaserJock> yes, very
[06:23] <Gloubiboulga> >zhois nornqgon
[06:23] <Gloubiboulga> sorry
[06:23] <Gloubiboulga> playing with the xklavier lib, I have some surprises some times :)
[07:05] <LaserJock> Gloubiboulga: ping?
[07:07] <Gloubiboulga> LaserJock, pong
[07:07] <LaserJock> Gloubiboulga: bug #33806
[07:08] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 33806 in siptoolbox "siptoolbox: accepted work" [Normal,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/33806
[07:08] <Gloubiboulga> yep, I was waiting for a fix in dapper, but...
[07:09] <Gloubiboulga> in debian*
[07:09] <LaserJock> k
[07:09] <Gloubiboulga> LaserJock, I don't think I can fix it myself, but I can have a new look at it
[07:13] <webwolf_27> say how stable is dapper at the moment
[07:14] <jpatrick> fairly
[07:15] <LaserJock> webwolf_27: it really depends on your definition of stable
[07:16] <webwolf_27> not constantly crashing
[07:19] <dholbach> have a nice weekend everybody
[07:21] <webwolf_27> you too dholbach
[07:22] <bmonty> webwolf_27: dapper is very usable
[07:24] <webwolf_27> good, it's like this. I'm interested in developing on a linux OS, and ubuntu looks like a good candidat, but I don't want to piss my wife off by installing extreemly unstable softw3are
[07:24] <jpatrick> dholbach: bye
[07:25] <LaserJock> webwolf_27: I haven't had any problems with it in the last few months. there are a few bugs here are there, but overall it is definately stable for desktop use, IMO
[07:25] <webwolf_27> but it doesn't make much sense to develop on the stable version
[07:26] <bmonty> webwolf_27: tell the wife to get her own machine :)
[07:27] <LaserJock> bmonty: yikes
[07:28] <LaserJock> azeem: ping?
[07:28] <webwolf_27> bmonty,  or I'll install dapper to my notebook, and leave breezy on the main machine
[07:29] <imbrandon> vmware ;)
[07:29] <webwolf_27> bmonty,  then I don't need to worry about only developing on linux
[07:30] <LaserJock> webwolf_27: IMO, dapper is already more stable than breezy
[07:32] <webwolf_27> LaserJock, then it sounds like you all have been doing a good job, and I hope, at some point to be welcomed into the teem.
[07:35] <LaserJock> webwolf_27: sure, we always welcome contributions
[07:35] <LaserJock> webwolf_27: have you done any debian based packaging before?
[07:37] <webwolf_27> LaserJock, nope
[07:38] <LaserJock> webwolf_27: then when you install look in the Ubuntu documentation and you'll find a packaging guide or also at doc.ubuntu.com
[07:43] <webwolf_27> LaserJock, will do. I've done rpm's before and I just finished a C++ cert for linux in sep.
[07:46] <LaserJock> webwolf_27: cool
[08:22] <cyberix> slomo: GNUnet 0.7.0c is going to make it for Dapper?
[08:27] <slomo> cyberix: eh... probably... hm, i should go through all confirmed UVF exceptions next week and upload them or ask for syncs if needed...
[08:27] <slomo> cyberix: thanks for reminding :)
[08:29] <cyberix> ok
[08:29] <cyberix> no prob
[08:37] <webwolf_27> LaserJock, sorry I was bathing my son and helping my wife, and in a few min's, I'm putting the kids in bed. But what part of that was cool
[08:46] <seth> steal my nick, eh
[08:46] <imbrandon> can someone tell me how i can sign a package i build with equiv-build ?
[08:46] <imbrandon> and yes i have gen gunpg keys etc
[08:47] <imbrandon> just dunno how to sign the pkg
[08:48] <jpatrick> seth: heh
[08:48] <jpatrick> imbrandon: debuild -S -sa -k$YOURKEY
[08:48] <imbrandon> kk thx
[08:48] <seth> jpatrick, :)
[09:05] <raphink> siretart: you lied :p I added this last key but didn't have the time to send the mail cause the phone rang ;)
[09:05] <raphink> hehe
[09:26] <siretart> raphink: lol
[09:26] <siretart> :)
[09:26] <raphink> ;)
[09:28] <imbrandon> ok i have my .dsc and .build .changes and .tar.gz of the package made with debuild -S -sa -k<key> ....... do i dput them all to revu ? or just certain ones , this will be the first upload of this package not an update
[09:29] <imbrandon> dput revu * ??
[09:30] <imbrandon> unhighlights?
[09:30] <tseng> its my name, it highlights when you say it
[09:30] <tseng> which is all the time :)
[09:30] <imbrandon> ahhh ;) heh
[09:30] <LaserJock> imbrandon: dput revu *_source.changes, I think
[09:31] <imbrandon> even on a first upload?
[09:31] <bddebian> tseng!!
[09:31] <Spec> i think you always dput the changes file
[09:31] <tseng> bddebian: hi
[09:31] <imbrandon> but what about the others?
[09:31] <imbrandon> like the tar.gz etc
[09:31] <LaserJock> imbrandon: yeah, always dput the source.changes file, it grabs everything else
[09:31] <Spec> they'll get where they're going
[09:31] <imbrandon> ahh ok
[09:32] <imbrandon> w00t worked , thanks guys
[09:33] <imbrandon> Uploading via ftp fubuntu-desktop_0.4.1_source.changes: done.
[09:33] <jpatrick> imbrandon: i think the *-desktop packages are produced by seeds
[09:35] <imbrandon> this is a new one, no seed for it
[09:35] <imbrandon> as far as i know, like i said still kinda new to ubuntu
[09:35] <imbrandon> i'm from a SuSE world
[09:37] <LaserJock> hmm, is there a fubuntu project?
[09:37] <imbrandon> i'm trying to create it
[09:37] <imbrandon> not currently
[09:41] <imbrandon> i guess i'm going about this wrong :( looks to the motu guys once again for insight
[10:31] <azeem> LaserJock: pong
[10:40] <LaserJock> azeem: are you up for a new upload of gausssum at a time convenient to you?
[10:54] <LaserJock> azeem: I made 2 small fixes and closed a bug, is it alright if I just email you?
[10:58] <LaserJock> azeem: I gotta go to a meeting but debdiff and source from gausssum (1.0.3-2) is at http://chem.unr.edu/~mantha/debian/
[12:02] <azeem> LaserJock: I've uploaded it