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kamiro87hello. is edubuntu have a polish version?12:42
kamiro87sorry, ttpo *&does12:43
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colin_heelo05:40
colin_hello*05:40
colin_im trying to set up edubutu for my school lab05:40
colin_if i want centrilized users, should u connet edubuntu clients to a ubuntu server or wut?05:41
colin_how does that work?05:41
Arcyou using ltsp or just want centralized authentication?05:49
colin_sorry, what is ltsp again?05:56
colin_i forgot05:57
colin_oh05:57
colin_got it05:57
colin_just centralized auth05:58
colin_i want sw to be local05:58
lucasvocolin_: you need to set up an ldap server05:58
colin_it minimize load on the wireless05:58
lucasvoand then install pam_ldap05:58
lucasvoand some sort of file server to mount the /home/_User/05:59
lucasvocolin_: but that's not easy05:59
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colin_ok06:04
colin_ill be back in like 10 mins06:04
colin_hold on06:04
colin_ok06:10
colin_back06:10
colin_so...06:10
colin_what is the pad addition to ldap?06:11
colin_pam*06:11
colin_so... if i just disk image a setup edubuntu drive and dup it to 10 laptops, can i run a server so all the student can have their own login/documents/settings and just run the programs localy06:15
lucasvono06:16
lucasvothats not that easy06:16
lucasvofirst you have to set up ldap06:16
lucasvowww.openldap.org06:16
colin_i thought that was for mail06:17
lucasvono, not only06:17
lucasvoI am not an expert in this area, I can't really help you06:17
colin_do u no what functinality it would have for my setup?06:17
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lucasvoyes, people would be able to login with the same pass and files on every machine06:18
colin_and then just run programs off the server?06:19
lucasvono, not with ldap06:19
lucasvoif you use some sort of ldap+fileserver, everything is local 06:20
lucasvoexcept authentication on login 06:20
colin_so i could run the programs locally on the clients, like i wanted to06:20
lucasvoyes06:20
colin_that sounds great06:20
colin_thanks06:21
lucasvonp06:22
colin_but wait, is the users' home dir local or server based?06:22
lucasvoserverbased06:22
lucasvocolin_: the fileserver06:22
colin_(sorry for all the questions, im a tech, not an admin, and i only have mac background)06:22
colin_ok cool06:22
colin_so i would run logins and documents/settings(home directory) on the server w/ ldap and programs and the OS on the local drive06:23
colin_is that a good summery?06:24
lucasvoyes06:24
lucasvoLDAP is used for authentaction06:24
colin_sounds good06:24
lucasvobut don't ask me what fileserver to use06:24
lucasvoprobably nfs06:24
lucasvobut that's not very secure06:24
colin_dont rele need security06:25
lucasvowell if it's over WLAN :)06:25
colin_its just school work and all the kids are computer iliterate06:25
colin_its low power wlan, u cant get in from out side the classroom06:26
lucasvoand that could be a problem, because kids all opening a file generates some traffic06:26
lucasvocolin_: try to use cable from the server to the workstations06:26
colin_yeah...i no06:26
colin_hmmmm06:26
colin_the problem is its going to be a protible laptop cart06:26
lucasvoaha06:27
colin_but the good thing is that the wlan move w/ it06:27
colin_moves*06:27
colin_so wait, what is the diff between pam_ldap and open ldap?06:28
lucasvotwo different programs06:29
lucasvopam_ldap is a module which is installed on the client 06:29
lucasvoit enables user to login over a remote ldap server06:30
lucasvoopenldap is the server with the user database06:30
colin_ah06:30
colin_got its06:30
colin_and pam_ldap is fluid w/ edubuntu?06:30
lucasvolucasvo@supernova:~$ apt-cache search libpam-ldap06:31
lucasvolibpam-ccreds - Pam module to cache authentication credentials06:31
lucasvolibpam-ldap - Pluggable Authentication Module allowing LDAP interfaces06:32
lucasvonss-updatedb - Cache name service directories in DB format06:32
lucasvolucasvo@supernova:~$06:32
colin_which means?06:36
lucasvoyes06:36
colin_what?06:36
lucasvothere is a package to install06:36
lucasvoit is fluid with ubuntu06:36
colin_ok06:36
colin_cool06:36
colin_sounds good06:36
colin_thanks06:37
colin_now, will there be a gui for the login?06:37
lucasvoyes, it's a normal login06:37
colin_ok06:37
lucasvowith gdm or kdm or whatever you want06:37
colin_are those both login programs built into edubuntu?06:38
lucasvogmd is06:38
colin_(im very new to linux)06:38
lucasvo*gdm06:38
colin_ok06:38
lucasvogotta go now06:44
lucasvocu colin_ 06:44
colin_thanks for the help!06:49
colin_see yeah06:49
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highvoltageBluekuja: morning10:29
highvoltageBluekuja: is there an edubuntu-it team on launchpad yet?10:29
highvoltageBluekuja: perhaps you'd like to do something similar to https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-br ?10:30
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Bluekujahi highvoltage :)11:07
Bluekujagood morning and good day :)11:07
Bluekujai gonna create the team on launchpad11:07
Bluekujait could be a very nice idea11:07
Bluekujaim making the html page for ubuntu-it11:08
Bluekujathere will be a link for edubuntu-it and all documentations/wiki that we will translate11:08
Bluekujaalso news ,forum and much more11:10
Bluekujahighvoltage: tell me when you're back :)11:13
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Bluekujaok :)11:16
Bluekujasoon ill give you the link11:16
Bluekujai have to go now11:16
Bluekujasee you later jon11:16
Bluekujaand good day11:16
Bluekuja;)11:16
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cbx33mornin all11:28
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HedgeMagehighvoltage: Are you about?12:38
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highvoltageHedgeMage: yep12:48
HedgeMagehighvoltage: I've done some research on internationalization/translation in drupal... there are some options available, but I wanted to find out before I dig deeper whether you're planning on sticking with 4.6.x for the time being, or if you're hot on the tails of 4.7.x of Drupal12:50
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highvoltageit's running 4.6.x now, but we're planning to move to the 4.7 series as soon as it hits stable12:51
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HedgeMageokay... I have both a 4.6 install and a 4.7 running that I can play with... the good news is that there *is* an internationalization module...12:54
HedgeMageit's not going to be ready for 4.7 for a while, but maybe I can jump in on that a bit.12:55
HedgeMage(Drupal's beta freezes tend to be less than absolute)12:55
HedgeMageso, updating modules tends to be hurry up and do, then hurry up and do over... and least for something like internationalization which touches everything12:56
HedgeMageI'll do more contemplating, reading, and tinkering and get back to ya with a reccommendation of some sort (or options, or whatever I come up with.12:56
HedgeMagehighvoltage: the other thing I wanted to know is whether you have a target date for the new site to go live, and if so when ?12:57
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HedgeMage:P12:58
highvoltagesorry, just talked to my father.12:58
HedgeMagenp :)12:58
highvoltageyes, the launch date is last wednesday :)12:58
highvoltage(targeted)12:58
HedgeMagelol :)12:58
highvoltageso we're 2 days over, although it wasn't a hard target.12:59
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highvoltagethe idea was that we launch the same time as the beta12:59
highvoltagei've sent the request to canonical RT that they change proto to www12:59
highvoltageit will probably happen Monday/Tuesday12:59
highvoltagethe website doesn't have to have everything we want in it to go live, it's already a bit better than the older site01:00
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highvoltageafter it's launched we can have a new proto that runs 4.7 :)01:00
HedgeMageis there any chance you wouldn't mind grabbing me a snapshot of the current install... I'd like to test some things, and I'd hate to come up with the perfect solution only to have it break the theme and conflict with another module you're using01:01
highvoltagesure, i'll do that monday, when i'm at work with nice bandwidth again :)01:02
HedgeMagehehe cool01:03
highvoltageatm i'm on a 1kb/s cellphone connection01:03
HedgeMageouch!01:03
highvoltagebrb01:03
HedgeMageunderstood.01:03
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HedgeMagehighvoltage: it's after 4am here... I'm off to bed.  Please drop me an email at HedgeMage@binaryredneck.net when you have a chance, so I have your address.  That way if I don't manage to catch you on line I can still let you know if I come up with anything of interest.01:23
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=== ..[topic/#edubuntu:juliux] : Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu, download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/5.10/ | Mailing List http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org | Website http://www.edubuntu.org | MEETING: every wednesday at 12:00 UTC | Read before installing: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes | Dapper beta is out http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dapper/ | Visit Edubuntu at the LinuxTag in Wie
=== ..[topic/#edubuntu:juliux] : Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu, download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/5.10/ | Mailing List http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org | Website http://www.edubuntu.org | MEETING: every wednesday at 12:00 UTC | Read before installing: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes | Dapper beta is out http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dapper/
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pygihighvoltage: here?04:56
highvoltagepygi: yep05:02
pygiwrote anything perhaps?05:03
highvoltagemy top priority right now is the edubuntu and xubuntu websites05:03
pygibah, ah, rah05:04
highvoltagei plan to do some cookbook-cooking next weekend, though :)05:04
pygiby May, 10 I want entire book written :)05:04
highvoltagegreat!05:04
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emmakelleyhi05:08
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pygihighvoltage: still too red and too orage05:27
pygiorange*05:27
pygialso, the team edubuntu-cooks doesn't seem ok right now :P05:28
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highvoltagepygi: colours we're stuck on :/05:50
pygihighvoltage: a little lighter? 05:50
highvoltagei can ask jane/ogra if we can go lighter05:51
highvoltagekeep in mind that ogra used those colours in the gtk themes as well05:51
highvoltageif we deviate, we have all kinds of colours that don't fit05:51
pygihighvoltage: kk...and what about that team? :P05:52
highvoltagethe edubuntu-cooks team?05:55
pygithat :P05:55
highvoltageyou mean i shouln't add it to the community page yet, or the team itself is not ok yet?05:55
pygiwell, that team isn't ok :-P05:55
pyginone of this people work on the cookbook =P05:55
highvoltagei'll have a big part of my content by the end of next weekend :)05:56
pyginot you....the *other* people05:57
pygiI don't know any of them :P05:57
highvoltageah, ok.05:57
highvoltagewell, perhaps they just need a bit of pressure.05:57
highvoltagei think hedgemadge will deliver, though.05:57
pygiexcept herman05:57
pygiyou don't get it :P05:57
highvoltageno, not really :)05:57
highvoltagesorry, long day05:57
pygiI trust you, hedgemage, ogra, spacey and whoever works on this right now but...look this..05:58
pygihttps://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-cooks05:58
highvoltagehmmm... i suggest you put a deadline in for submission of *any* content at all05:58
pygiwhat is that team all about? :-P05:59
highvoltageand anyone who don't submit anything within, let's say, two weeks, gets taken off the list05:59
pygiI think it's the *old team*05:59
highvoltageyes, it is.05:59
pygiah, I guess it doesn't matter actually...we don't need launchpad team to do something :)06:00
pygiur thoughts? 06:01
pygiin two weeks? the book should be done in 2 and a half weeks :)06:01
highvoltageyep, but if we have some inactive members in teams they should be removed, i think. with enough warning though.06:04
pygitrue :-)06:07
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highvoltagehehe06:47
pygihighvoltage: :)06:48
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Bluekujahighvoltage: ping07:56
highvoltageping07:57
highvoltageBluekuja: pong07:57
Bluekujahi jon07:59
Bluekujai have a question07:59
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Bluekujaim making the presentation to put in edubuntu-it07:59
Bluekujawebsite07:59
highvoltagenice07:59
Bluekujamy idea was to translate the edubuntu.org one07:59
Bluekujaand put it as presentation07:59
Bluekujawhat do you think ?08:00
highvoltagei think it's good.08:00
highvoltageit will need an update when dapper is released.08:00
highvoltageand you can always build on that and make it better afterwards.08:00
Bluekujaof course08:01
Bluekujalicense?08:01
Bluekujai have only to put all trademarks are owned by canonical08:02
Bluekujaat the bottom08:02
highvoltagelicens is creative commons sharalike by attribution08:02
highvoltageok, good.08:03
Bluekujaok i have translated it08:03
Bluekujabefore^^08:03
Bluekujaim talking with other members08:03
Bluekujaand then ill give you the link08:03
Bluekujafor community08:03
Bluekuja;)08:03
highvoltageok, thanks!08:05
Bluekujawe wil change also the banner08:06
Bluekujato make it similar to edubuntu.org site08:06
Bluekujait will be something nice08:07
Bluekujahehe08:07
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eDRUcated#nosgoth08:22
eDRUcatedopps08:22
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pygispacey: alive? :)10:09
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