[12:42] <kamiro87> hello. is edubuntu have a polish version?
[12:43] <kamiro87> sorry, ttpo *&does
[05:40] <colin_> heelo
[05:40] <colin_> hello*
[05:40] <colin_> im trying to set up edubutu for my school lab
[05:41] <colin_> if i want centrilized users, should u connet edubuntu clients to a ubuntu server or wut?
[05:41] <colin_> how does that work?
[05:49] <Arc> you using ltsp or just want centralized authentication?
[05:56] <colin_> sorry, what is ltsp again?
[05:57] <colin_> i forgot
[05:57] <colin_> oh
[05:57] <colin_> got it
[05:58] <colin_> just centralized auth
[05:58] <colin_> i want sw to be local
[05:58] <lucasvo> colin_: you need to set up an ldap server
[05:58] <colin_> it minimize load on the wireless
[05:58] <lucasvo> and then install pam_ldap
[05:59] <lucasvo> and some sort of file server to mount the /home/_User/
[05:59] <lucasvo> colin_: but that's not easy
[06:04] <colin_> ok
[06:04] <colin_> ill be back in like 10 mins
[06:04] <colin_> hold on
[06:10] <colin_> ok
[06:10] <colin_> back
[06:10] <colin_> so...
[06:11] <colin_> what is the pad addition to ldap?
[06:11] <colin_> pam*
[06:15] <colin_> so... if i just disk image a setup edubuntu drive and dup it to 10 laptops, can i run a server so all the student can have their own login/documents/settings and just run the programs localy
[06:16] <lucasvo> no
[06:16] <lucasvo> thats not that easy
[06:16] <lucasvo> first you have to set up ldap
[06:16] <lucasvo> www.openldap.org
[06:17] <colin_> i thought that was for mail
[06:17] <lucasvo> no, not only
[06:17] <lucasvo> I am not an expert in this area, I can't really help you
[06:17] <colin_> do u no what functinality it would have for my setup?
[06:18] <lucasvo> yes, people would be able to login with the same pass and files on every machine
[06:19] <colin_> and then just run programs off the server?
[06:19] <lucasvo> no, not with ldap
[06:20] <lucasvo> if you use some sort of ldap+fileserver, everything is local 
[06:20] <lucasvo> except authentication on login 
[06:20] <colin_> so i could run the programs locally on the clients, like i wanted to
[06:20] <lucasvo> yes
[06:20] <colin_> that sounds great
[06:21] <colin_> thanks
[06:22] <lucasvo> np
[06:22] <colin_> but wait, is the users' home dir local or server based?
[06:22] <lucasvo> serverbased
[06:22] <lucasvo> colin_: the fileserver
[06:22] <colin_> (sorry for all the questions, im a tech, not an admin, and i only have mac background)
[06:22] <colin_> ok cool
[06:23] <colin_> so i would run logins and documents/settings(home directory) on the server w/ ldap and programs and the OS on the local drive
[06:24] <colin_> is that a good summery?
[06:24] <lucasvo> yes
[06:24] <lucasvo> LDAP is used for authentaction
[06:24] <colin_> sounds good
[06:24] <lucasvo> but don't ask me what fileserver to use
[06:24] <lucasvo> probably nfs
[06:24] <lucasvo> but that's not very secure
[06:25] <colin_> dont rele need security
[06:25] <lucasvo> well if it's over WLAN :)
[06:25] <colin_> its just school work and all the kids are computer iliterate
[06:26] <colin_> its low power wlan, u cant get in from out side the classroom
[06:26] <lucasvo> and that could be a problem, because kids all opening a file generates some traffic
[06:26] <lucasvo> colin_: try to use cable from the server to the workstations
[06:26] <colin_> yeah...i no
[06:26] <colin_> hmmmm
[06:26] <colin_> the problem is its going to be a protible laptop cart
[06:27] <lucasvo> aha
[06:27] <colin_> but the good thing is that the wlan move w/ it
[06:27] <colin_> moves*
[06:28] <colin_> so wait, what is the diff between pam_ldap and open ldap?
[06:29] <lucasvo> two different programs
[06:29] <lucasvo> pam_ldap is a module which is installed on the client 
[06:30] <lucasvo> it enables user to login over a remote ldap server
[06:30] <lucasvo> openldap is the server with the user database
[06:30] <colin_> ah
[06:30] <colin_> got its
[06:30] <colin_> and pam_ldap is fluid w/ edubuntu?
[06:31] <lucasvo> lucasvo@supernova:~$ apt-cache search libpam-ldap
[06:31] <lucasvo> libpam-ccreds - Pam module to cache authentication credentials
[06:32] <lucasvo> libpam-ldap - Pluggable Authentication Module allowing LDAP interfaces
[06:32] <lucasvo> nss-updatedb - Cache name service directories in DB format
[06:32] <lucasvo> lucasvo@supernova:~$
[06:36] <colin_> which means?
[06:36] <lucasvo> yes
[06:36] <colin_> what?
[06:36] <lucasvo> there is a package to install
[06:36] <lucasvo> it is fluid with ubuntu
[06:36] <colin_> ok
[06:36] <colin_> cool
[06:36] <colin_> sounds good
[06:37] <colin_> thanks
[06:37] <colin_> now, will there be a gui for the login?
[06:37] <lucasvo> yes, it's a normal login
[06:37] <colin_> ok
[06:37] <lucasvo> with gdm or kdm or whatever you want
[06:38] <colin_> are those both login programs built into edubuntu?
[06:38] <lucasvo> gmd is
[06:38] <colin_> (im very new to linux)
[06:38] <lucasvo> *gdm
[06:38] <colin_> ok
[06:44] <lucasvo> gotta go now
[06:44] <lucasvo> cu colin_ 
[06:49] <colin_> thanks for the help!
[06:49] <colin_> see yeah
[10:29] <highvoltage> Bluekuja: morning
[10:29] <highvoltage> Bluekuja: is there an edubuntu-it team on launchpad yet?
[10:30] <highvoltage> Bluekuja: perhaps you'd like to do something similar to https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-br ?
[11:07] <Bluekuja> hi highvoltage :)
[11:07] <Bluekuja> good morning and good day :)
[11:07] <Bluekuja> i gonna create the team on launchpad
[11:07] <Bluekuja> it could be a very nice idea
[11:08] <Bluekuja> im making the html page for ubuntu-it
[11:08] <Bluekuja> there will be a link for edubuntu-it and all documentations/wiki that we will translate
[11:10] <Bluekuja> also news ,forum and much more
[11:13] <Bluekuja> highvoltage: tell me when you're back :)
[11:16] <Bluekuja> ok :)
[11:16] <Bluekuja> soon ill give you the link
[11:16] <Bluekuja> i have to go now
[11:16] <Bluekuja> see you later jon
[11:16] <Bluekuja> and good day
[11:16] <Bluekuja> ;)
[11:28] <cbx33> mornin all
[12:38] <HedgeMage> highvoltage: Are you about?
[12:48] <highvoltage> HedgeMage: yep
[12:50] <HedgeMage> highvoltage: I've done some research on internationalization/translation in drupal... there are some options available, but I wanted to find out before I dig deeper whether you're planning on sticking with 4.6.x for the time being, or if you're hot on the tails of 4.7.x of Drupal
[12:51] <highvoltage> it's running 4.6.x now, but we're planning to move to the 4.7 series as soon as it hits stable
[12:54] <HedgeMage> okay... I have both a 4.6 install and a 4.7 running that I can play with... the good news is that there *is* an internationalization module...
[12:55] <HedgeMage> it's not going to be ready for 4.7 for a while, but maybe I can jump in on that a bit.
[12:55] <HedgeMage> (Drupal's beta freezes tend to be less than absolute)
[12:56] <HedgeMage> so, updating modules tends to be hurry up and do, then hurry up and do over... and least for something like internationalization which touches everything
[12:56] <HedgeMage> I'll do more contemplating, reading, and tinkering and get back to ya with a reccommendation of some sort (or options, or whatever I come up with.
[12:57] <HedgeMage> highvoltage: the other thing I wanted to know is whether you have a target date for the new site to go live, and if so when ?
[12:58] <HedgeMage> :P
[12:58] <highvoltage> sorry, just talked to my father.
[12:58] <HedgeMage> np :)
[12:58] <highvoltage> yes, the launch date is last wednesday :)
[12:58] <highvoltage> (targeted)
[12:58] <HedgeMage> lol :)
[12:59] <highvoltage> so we're 2 days over, although it wasn't a hard target.
[12:59] <highvoltage> the idea was that we launch the same time as the beta
[12:59] <highvoltage> i've sent the request to canonical RT that they change proto to www
[12:59] <highvoltage> it will probably happen Monday/Tuesday
[01:00] <highvoltage> the website doesn't have to have everything we want in it to go live, it's already a bit better than the older site
[01:00] <highvoltage> after it's launched we can have a new proto that runs 4.7 :)
[01:01] <HedgeMage> is there any chance you wouldn't mind grabbing me a snapshot of the current install... I'd like to test some things, and I'd hate to come up with the perfect solution only to have it break the theme and conflict with another module you're using
[01:02] <highvoltage> sure, i'll do that monday, when i'm at work with nice bandwidth again :)
[01:03] <HedgeMage> hehe cool
[01:03] <highvoltage> atm i'm on a 1kb/s cellphone connection
[01:03] <HedgeMage> ouch!
[01:03] <highvoltage> brb
[01:03] <HedgeMage> understood.
[01:23] <HedgeMage> highvoltage: it's after 4am here... I'm off to bed.  Please drop me an email at HedgeMage@binaryredneck.net when you have a chance, so I have your address.  That way if I don't manage to catch you on line I can still let you know if I come up with anything of interest.
[04:56] <pygi> highvoltage: here?
[05:02] <highvoltage> pygi: yep
[05:03] <pygi> wrote anything perhaps?
[05:03] <highvoltage> my top priority right now is the edubuntu and xubuntu websites
[05:04] <pygi> bah, ah, rah
[05:04] <highvoltage> i plan to do some cookbook-cooking next weekend, though :)
[05:04] <pygi> by May, 10 I want entire book written :)
[05:04] <highvoltage> great!
[05:08] <emmakelley> hi
[05:27] <pygi> highvoltage: still too red and too orage
[05:27] <pygi> orange*
[05:28] <pygi> also, the team edubuntu-cooks doesn't seem ok right now :P
[05:50] <highvoltage> pygi: colours we're stuck on :/
[05:50] <pygi> highvoltage: a little lighter? 
[05:51] <highvoltage> i can ask jane/ogra if we can go lighter
[05:51] <highvoltage> keep in mind that ogra used those colours in the gtk themes as well
[05:51] <highvoltage> if we deviate, we have all kinds of colours that don't fit
[05:52] <pygi> highvoltage: kk...and what about that team? :P
[05:55] <highvoltage> the edubuntu-cooks team?
[05:55] <pygi> that :P
[05:55] <highvoltage> you mean i shouln't add it to the community page yet, or the team itself is not ok yet?
[05:55] <pygi> well, that team isn't ok :-P
[05:55] <pygi> none of this people work on the cookbook =P
[05:56] <highvoltage> i'll have a big part of my content by the end of next weekend :)
[05:57] <pygi> not you....the *other* people
[05:57] <pygi> I don't know any of them :P
[05:57] <highvoltage> ah, ok.
[05:57] <highvoltage> well, perhaps they just need a bit of pressure.
[05:57] <highvoltage> i think hedgemadge will deliver, though.
[05:57] <pygi> except herman
[05:57] <pygi> you don't get it :P
[05:57] <highvoltage> no, not really :)
[05:57] <highvoltage> sorry, long day
[05:58] <pygi> I trust you, hedgemage, ogra, spacey and whoever works on this right now but...look this..
[05:58] <pygi> https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-cooks
[05:58] <highvoltage> hmmm... i suggest you put a deadline in for submission of *any* content at all
[05:59] <pygi> what is that team all about? :-P
[05:59] <highvoltage> and anyone who don't submit anything within, let's say, two weeks, gets taken off the list
[05:59] <pygi> I think it's the *old team*
[05:59] <highvoltage> yes, it is.
[06:00] <pygi> ah, I guess it doesn't matter actually...we don't need launchpad team to do something :)
[06:01] <pygi> ur thoughts? 
[06:01] <pygi> in two weeks? the book should be done in 2 and a half weeks :)
[06:04] <highvoltage> yep, but if we have some inactive members in teams they should be removed, i think. with enough warning though.
[06:07] <pygi> true :-)
[06:47] <highvoltage> hehe
[06:48] <pygi> highvoltage: :)
[07:56] <Bluekuja> highvoltage: ping
[07:57] <highvoltage> ping
[07:57] <highvoltage> Bluekuja: pong
[07:59] <Bluekuja> hi jon
[07:59] <Bluekuja> i have a question
[07:59] <Bluekuja> im making the presentation to put in edubuntu-it
[07:59] <Bluekuja> website
[07:59] <highvoltage> nice
[07:59] <Bluekuja> my idea was to translate the edubuntu.org one
[07:59] <Bluekuja> and put it as presentation
[08:00] <Bluekuja> what do you think ?
[08:00] <highvoltage> i think it's good.
[08:00] <highvoltage> it will need an update when dapper is released.
[08:00] <highvoltage> and you can always build on that and make it better afterwards.
[08:01] <Bluekuja> of course
[08:01] <Bluekuja> license?
[08:02] <Bluekuja> i have only to put all trademarks are owned by canonical
[08:02] <Bluekuja> at the bottom
[08:02] <highvoltage> licens is creative commons sharalike by attribution
[08:03] <highvoltage> ok, good.
[08:03] <Bluekuja> ok i have translated it
[08:03] <Bluekuja> before^^
[08:03] <Bluekuja> im talking with other members
[08:03] <Bluekuja> and then ill give you the link
[08:03] <Bluekuja> for community
[08:03] <Bluekuja> ;)
[08:05] <highvoltage> ok, thanks!
[08:06] <Bluekuja> we wil change also the banner
[08:06] <Bluekuja> to make it similar to edubuntu.org site
[08:07] <Bluekuja> it will be something nice
[08:07] <Bluekuja> hehe
[08:22] <eDRUcated> #nosgoth
[08:22] <eDRUcated> opps
[10:09] <pygi> spacey: alive? :)