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pha_2222ahhh12:04
pha_2222bad time of day12:04
IgKhWell, it is 02:00 (At least in this remote part of the world)12:05
HymnToLifeIgKh> it's not "late in the night" everywhere on earth you know ;)12:05
Raven301thanks IgKh12:05
pha_2222igkh: thanks for the heads up12:05
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HymnToLife00:05 here12:05
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nochhola, im back12:06
nochwith more questions ;/12:06
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pha_2222<--- waiting to see if questions get answered12:06
IgKhThey need to be asked first, don't they?12:07
nochhow do i download a file from my command line?12:07
pha_2222lgkh: true enough12:07
IgKhnoch: wget12:07
nochwget address ?12:08
IgKhyes.12:08
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IgKhIf you are downloading something big you can stop and then continue by adding "-c" after "wget"12:08
pha_2222interesting12:09
HymnToLifeor use a GUI for it like gwget12:09
nochcant, xserver wont load12:10
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nochtil i upgrade12:10
IgKhnoch: You can't use apt-get?12:10
pha_2222how do I turn off keygen?12:10
HymnToLifehow did you manage tht one ?12:10
solanwooooooohooo!! finaly got mediatomb to work:D:D12:10
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pha_2222I have been trying to get 4 kubuntu systems networked together, and when I rlogin from one to another I get an error about the hostkey file12:13
pha_2222how do I turn off that level of protection?12:13
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IgKhpha: The question is not how to fix rlogin but why do you use it12:14
IgKhSSH is much safer12:14
HymnToLifedepends on what you want to do12:14
pha_2222fair enough, I can use that, but wouldn't it have the same problem?12:14
HymnToLifewhat do you want to do pha_2222 ?12:15
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pha_2222I get the same problem...12:15
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mrproperhi! i have a strange problem. it seems as if KDE and all applications and web pages uses only one font, the same font everywhere. does anybody have a clue why that is?12:16
ninniuzhello how can I upgrade my breezy to dapper?12:16
pha_2222    WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!     @12:16
pha_2222hymn: I want to be able to remote login across the network, and avoid getting the error message....    WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!     @12:16
pha_2222hymn: btw, thank you for responding12:17
ninniuzhow can I upgrade my breezy to dapper?12:17
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Sergi0gebruikt hier iemand freenx?12:18
Sergi0dang12:18
Sergi0wrong channel :P12:18
mindspin!nl12:18
ubotuOp #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.12:18
Sergi0:)12:18
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IgKhpha: it seems that in Ubuntu rlogin is synonmous to SSH12:18
IgKhdo you have a ~/.ssh/known_hosts?12:19
ninniuz!it12:19
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:19
pha_2222lgkh: so I just discovered12:19
justanotheruseris crystal changed because of a threath?12:19
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pha_2222lgkh: yes, I did see that file, but it is partially incrypted12:19
pha_2222lgkh: I could reinstall all 4 machines I am doing, but i'd rather not of it can be avoided12:20
pha_2222Offending key in /home/jjoseph/.ssh/known_hosts:812:22
pha_2222RSA host key for hostd has changed and you have requested strict checking.12:22
pha_2222that is the last part of the error message12:22
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mindspinpha12:23
pha_2222mind: yes?12:23
mindspinremove the key in /home/username/.ssh12:23
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pha_2222ok12:23
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puckmannew live cd with installer looks nice12:23
mindspintheres a file remove everything concerning the needed ip address12:24
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mindspinthen you will be asked  agin for establishing connection and password12:24
wasp_emshi12:24
mindspinknown_host should be the name of the file12:24
wasp_emsi tried for the first time to burn a cd under linux with k3b but i have a problem can someone help?12:24
mindspinknown_hosts12:25
pha_2222that was it!12:25
mindspinyup12:25
pha_2222thank you muchly... I owe you lunch :)12:25
mindspinyw12:25
wasp_emsthe error i get is that cdrecord has no permission to open this device12:25
puckmangod gnome sucks12:26
pha_2222mind: how long have you been working with linux?12:26
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mindspinpuckman: mind your words please12:26
puckmanit sticks apps all over the place12:26
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puckmanmindspin: because I said sucks?12:26
wasp_emscan anyone help me?12:26
solanis it possible to add a link in a db to another an "undertable"?12:27
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mindspinboth its very close to swearing ;-)12:27
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nochhey, how long does it take to unzip/untar, whichever, a 500 Kb file??12:27
solannoch: seconds...12:27
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mindspinand because I do not like to condemm ubuntu desktop managers12:28
mindspinneither KDE nor Gnome or xfce12:28
mindspinI hate WM flaming12:28
HymnToLifeFluxbox nukes them all anyway :p12:28
noch=/12:28
mindspinbur that is my personal view12:28
pha_2222peace all, and thank you12:29
mindspinthe other comment is concerning about the COC12:29
nochwhy wouldnt tar -x file.tar work?12:29
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puckmanI was not flaming and I have nothing against the wm as such. I just noticed that the gnome desktop filled all my clean and miminal menus with various apps12:29
IgKhmindspin: TWMTIJMD rulez! :)12:29
ubuntuis the livecd installer supposed to just repartition your hd on its own?12:29
puckmanmaybe my mistake of installing both12:29
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ubuntu_hi12:29
nochtell noch about tar12:30
ubuntu_have some problems with the alpha/beta installer12:30
HymnToLifepuckman> you can edit your menus manually12:30
mindspinI#m a little sensitive in this questions because I#m german12:30
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solanany1? linking within a database...?12:30
puckmanHymnToLife: I know, just liked the default kubuntu setup12:30
ubuntu_the installer crashes everytime direkt after the time settings12:30
wasp_emsdoes anyone here use an external dvdr and k3b?12:31
puckmani change very little from the default kubuntu setup, seems to suit my personal taste rather well12:31
ohoelmine does too, and runs partman, parted_server, perform_recipe12:31
ubuntu_does anybody know a solution ?12:31
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idiotbshello12:33
IgKhGot to go - good night everbody!12:33
mindspinnite12:33
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puckmanI installed the gnome desktop with apt-get install gnomedesktop12:43
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puckmanwhat would be te best way to remove it12:43
puckmanI tried apt-get remove gnomedesktop but that does not work12:43
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HymnToLifetry removing a core gnome app like nautilus, evolution or firefox12:44
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angelohola!12:46
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mrproperhi! i have a strange problem. it seems as if KDE and all applications and web pages uses only one font, the same font everywhere. does anybody have a clue why that is?12:46
angelo...12:47
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regeya...12:47
regeyasounds like misconfiguration of some sort!12:48
regeyaand,12:48
regeyaum,12:48
regeyayeah.12:48
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angeloma in tipi di carattere?12:49
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HymnToLife!tell angelo about it12:49
angelook12:50
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angelohow is your gtk styles and fonts?12:52
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wasp_emsi have a cd in my external cd rom and the button does not work for it to open is there any command i can use?12:58
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wasp_emseject only oppens my internal cdrom12:58
wasp_emsany help?12:58
OdyXwasp_ems: eject /dev/your_cd12:58
brandon_it may have a mounted disc inside12:59
brandon_which you'll have to unmount first12:59
OdyXbrandon_: eject will unmount first...12:59
wasp_emsok thanx12:59
brandon_oh it WILL01:00
OdyXbrandon_: if you have the rights to...01:00
OdyXbrandon_: which imposes sudo most of the time...01:00
OdyXbut graphically, right-clic eject...01:00
brandon_but don't you think it's important to give him the basic knowledge about mount/umount?01:01
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OdyXbrandon_: I do... but I answered his question...01:04
nochhey, how do i run a .deb file?01:04
brandon_sudo dpkg -i01:04
_jeffare there any ndiswrapperers here?01:04
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_jeffim having trouble with my wlan01:05
nochthank you01:05
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nochhmm01:05
_jeffi can see networks, and everything says that I have connected to one, but i cant ping or go on the internet01:05
_jeffand when i ifup wlan0, i get no dhcp offers recieved01:05
nochshould i run my drver install package  in /etc/X11 or does it matter?01:06
brandon_doesn't matter01:06
brandon_what's the problem?01:06
nochi got a dependency error01:06
brandon_right, so that means you're missing something that nees to be installed first01:07
nocherror processing xserver-xorg-driver-i81001:07
nochhmm01:07
brandon_what package are you trying to install?01:07
brandon_video drivers?01:07
nochhttps://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/187002/xserver-xorg-driver-i810.01:07
nochyea01:07
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brandon_i think intel drivers are included int he repos01:08
nochrepos?01:08
brandon_they should have been installed automatically01:08
nochthey werent, cause my xserver wont load01:08
brandon_how do you know your video card isn't working properly?01:08
brandon_i see01:09
noch=p01:09
brandon_type lspci01:09
nochi was told i need to upgrade to 1.4.1.3 in order for it to work01:09
brandon_and look for the intel graphics01:09
nochk01:10
brandon_upgrade what to 1.4.1.3?01:10
nochmy vid card  drivers01:10
brandon_who told you that?01:10
nochi read it on the ubuntu forums01:11
brandon_how do you know it applied to you specifically?01:11
nochhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15696501:11
nochbecause he had a similar problem i did01:11
nochi mean he had the same vid card01:12
brandon_are you using an inspiron 9400?01:12
nochVideo: Works. Intel GMA950. Upgrade "xserver-xorg-driver-i810" to 1.4.1.3 or later; earlier drivers otherwise do not identify this chipset. Install "915resolution" to drive LCD display at full (1920x1200) resolution. 3D accelleration, VGA output, DVI output, display cloning all work. Xinerama, dual-head and S-Video support not tested yet.01:12
nochno01:12
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brandon_let me check something01:13
nochk01:13
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brandon_are you using breezy or dapper?01:14
nochbreezy01:14
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brandon_type sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-i81001:16
nochit said its the newest version01:17
nochthen . .01:17
nochit said a few files have unmet dependencies01:18
mrproperhey! is there any progress with the unichrome drivers for the KM808 chipset?01:18
brandon_ype sudo apt-get -f install01:18
nochthere were errors processing a fw files01:20
brandon_sudo apt-get update01:20
brandon_how long have you had breezy installed?01:21
nochlike a day01:21
nochi havent been able to get my xserver up since01:21
brandon_are you using another computer right now?01:21
nochyea01:21
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brandon_is it done updating yet?01:22
nochyea01:22
nochtry it again?01:22
brandon_after it updates, run sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:22
brandon_then run sudo apt-get -f install, and then run sudo dpkg --configure -a01:23
nochok01:23
nochthank you again brandon01:23
brandon_no problem, but the problem with the thread you showed me is that the guy in question is using dapper01:24
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Flosofthey01:24
FlosoftI got a question about WiFi01:24
nochahh01:24
FlosoftI need a nice manager01:24
Flosoftfor KDE01:25
brandon_what you can do is download dapper beta 1, put it on a cd, and then try booting off it. if it starts your xserver, then you may want to go with dapper instead of breezy01:25
nochwhats the difference? i havent used linux since pre-ferdora =/01:26
brandon_you could modprobe the module, but i don;t know what the module name is for that graphics card01:26
brandon_dapper is just the next release in the pipeline01:26
brandon_breezy is the current stable release01:26
nochoh01:26
nochahh, its still beta01:26
brandon_well, i'm running it right now, and it's pretty stable01:27
nochill just do this and if it works ill wait for 1.x01:27
nochoh01:27
brandon_especially with riddell's kde packages01:27
nochok, then ill try it if this doesnt work then01:27
brandon_i didn't have quite as much luck with gnome01:27
mark---Is Breezy a pretty good rescue live CD? I've got a situation...01:27
brandon_well, obviously, you could modprobe the module and get it onto the system that way, and that may work, but i don;t know what the hell the thing's name is01:28
brandon_mark--- it's not too bad. let me guess. you wiped out grub?01:28
mark---Well, no I sorta messed up the Xorg arena with a power spike...01:29
brandon_oh, that's good01:29
brandon_what happens now?01:29
mark---now i just want to e-mail myself a few files and then wipe the laptop and put Dapper on there...01:29
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iqo1how do i view "bluetooth:\" in dapper?01:35
brandon_noch: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.06/01:36
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nochnot yet01:36
nochoh01:36
nochok01:36
nochthankx01:37
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mark---noch nicht = not yet01:37
nochwhat does apt-get do?01:37
nochnien01:37
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Flosofthey ... is there anyone who can explain to me why Kwifimanager doesn't get an IP?01:37
brandon_apt-get looks at a huge online warehouse of packages, and downloads and installs them at your request, solving dependencies along the way01:38
Tm_Tok, this is random, but somehow interesting: jupiter and moons http://users.utu.fi/tomhak/img_0778.jpg01:38
nochk01:39
brandon_which one is george bush from?01:39
nochim restarting, we'll see if thsi works01:39
Tm_Tbrandon_: the darkest one01:39
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nochdamnation01:40
nochnow its worse =/01:41
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nochi think ima go with that dapper package01:42
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brandon_http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.06/kubuntu-6.06-beta-install-i386.iso.torrent01:43
brandon_what kind of computer have you got anyway?01:43
nochlatitude D62001:43
nochyea, i already burned it to a CD01:43
brandon_is it fairly new?01:43
nochfrom the site01:43
nochyep, about a 4 days01:44
brandon_linux sometimes has some problems with brand new stuff01:44
brandon_how did you download it so fast?01:44
nochyea, ive noticed01:44
noch;)01:44
nochi have a nice, quick connection01:45
brandon_well, try booting into that then. change your boot sequence to look fot he cd first01:45
nochyea, ima do it later, i gotta run to work in a sec01:45
nochbut thank you for all your help01:45
brandon_ok01:46
brandon_yo got tired of windows awfully fast, i'll tell you that01:47
kev1ni have somehow disabled or moved my mouse drivers. I ned help to reinstall the correct ones back in?01:47
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nochlol, nah, ive been meaning to gte back on linux, its just that i have to move too may files on my PC to bother with it01:47
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mark---noch: Concerning apt-get, I highly recommend learning about it as it is powerful, here's a good read: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/apt-get-intro.html01:50
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asimovhow do I install opera01:56
asimovin dapper drake01:56
Snake__!opera01:56
ubotuit has been said that opera is not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser01:56
djk_download the deb and dpkg -i01:56
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_arthurbHi... I filed a bug long ago against kwifimanager, I fixed it along with the author of the package... yet as of this day, the version of kwifimanager shipping with dapper is still buggy01:57
_arthurbthe funny thing ( not so funny in fact ) is that the bug makes the program absolutely completly useless... ( yes it is part of the standard default kubuntu install )01:58
_arthurbI'm amazed that this can remain unnoticed01:59
Flosoftdoes anyone know why I don't get an IP when I connect to a wifi?01:59
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BlissexFlosoft: poor question, too vague. But to get an IP, enable the DHCP server02:00
stodgeIs kubuntu meant to have /etc/ld.so.conf?02:01
_arthurbFlosoft: because connecting to a ssid and requesting an IP is different02:01
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Flosoftwell I have a DHCP server in my network02:01
Flosoftvia cable all works fine02:01
Flosoftand WiFi on my Windows too02:01
_arthurbwhat are you using ?02:01
FlosoftKwifimanager02:01
FlosoftKubuntu Breezy02:01
_arthurbset it up to run dhclient after connecting02:01
_arthurbthat being said02:02
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_arthurbOH KWIFIMANAGER is badly broken in kubuntu and I bet at that pace it will ship broken02:02
_arthurbin june02:02
Flosoftah thanks _arthurb ... now it works02:02
Flosoftis there any other interface to WiFi ?02:03
_arthurbiwconfig :)02:03
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_arthurbwifi-radar02:03
Flosoftanyone of them graphical?02:03
_arthurbwifi-radar02:03
_arthurbput it smells like feet02:03
Flosoft???02:04
_arthurb(gtk)02:05
mark---Can anybody point me to documentation on how to mount partitions on a drive after booting from a live CD?02:05
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brandon_i'll tell you right now02:07
brandon_type fdisk -l02:07
brandon_sudo fdisk -l02:07
mark---done...02:07
brandon_now you should be seeing alist of partitions02:07
mark---yes, i am02:07
brandon_use /opt to mount the one you want02:08
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mark---ok...02:08
brandon_mount /dev/hdxx /opt02:08
brandon_with sudo02:08
brandon_sudo mount /dev/hdxx /opt02:08
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mark---hey, thanks, i owe you a beverage...02:09
brandon_yeah, i'll remember that pal...02:09
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brandon_fax it to me02:09
mark---I'll have to learn about the /opt thingie...02:09
mark---;)02:10
brandon_opt is just opt02:10
kijjazive been loving KDE, but one thing i cant configure easily in it is the xkb options. normally i should set it in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg only, but now ie got kubuntu and still, when i add xkb option for keyboard layout group change keys, it doesnt work again -_-. what do i need? (me new to kubuntu)02:12
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brandon_kijjaz: what are you trying to do?02:19
brandon_i mean forget xkb, what are you actually trying to do?02:20
Blissexkijjaz: 'kxkb'02:21
Blissexkijjaz: 'Control Center:Regional & Accessibility:Keyboard Layout:Xkb options'02:21
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Flosoftwifi-radar won't start02:22
Flosofthow do I start it?02:22
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idiotbssudo wifi-radar02:27
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mark---Brandon: This is working. I'm find that  when I do mount /dev/hdaX /opt that hdaX will be mounted, fine. But only one partition at a time can be mounted on /opt. That's fine as I'm in rescue mode. It makes me wonder how I could also have hda3, hda4, etc. mounted at the same time.02:31
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_jeffcan anybody help me with my wlan woes?02:32
_jeffhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=944474#02:32
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mark---_jeff: are u Katana?02:36
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produkt_how can I upgrade/update my ubuntu install to kubuntu?02:37
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_jeffmark---: katana? oh yeah on the forums i am katana02:38
McScruffsudo apt-get install kde-desktop02:38
McScruffi think02:38
Hobbseeprodukt_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:38
McScruffso close02:38
mark---I read it, sorry don't know much about ndiswrappers yet.....02:38
produkt_tyty02:38
_jeffdamn02:38
_jeffthanks though02:38
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produkt_wee, big ass installation02:39
Hobbseehehe yeah02:40
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produkt_ty McScruff and Hobbsee, bbiab going to blockbuster now02:40
Hobbseeok02:40
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_jeffhobbsee: do you think you can help me with my wlan woes?02:44
Hobbsee_jeff: quite possibly, what's the problem02:44
_jeffhobbsee: i remember you helped me when i was 100% noob last summer :)02:44
_jeffhobbsee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=944474#02:45
Hobbsee:P02:45
Snake[OnAir] Hobbsee: is a vet :)02:45
_jefflol02:45
_jeffyep02:45
Hobbsee_jeff: interesting...02:46
Hobbseendiswrapper -l - what does that show?02:46
Raven301Could someone look at this error please http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/67449802:48
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_jeffHobbsee: net8180 driver present hardware present02:48
HobbseeRaven301: er...is there supposed to be anything there?02:49
Hobbsee_jeff: okay, and in iwconfig, does it show the essid, or "off/any"?02:49
Hobbseeoh, no there is something there02:50
_jeffHobbsee: it doesnt say anything about an essid in my iwconfig02:50
Hobbseeyep, i thougth that might be the case02:50
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Hobbseesudo iwconfig wlan0 essid auntymauva02:50
Hobbseetype it in, what does it give you?02:51
_jeffnothing02:51
Hobbseeright, so it just goes back to an empty prompt?02:51
Raven301Hobbsee: http://pastebin.com/674501  sorry02:51
Hobbseegood, then do a sudo dhclient wlan002:51
_jeffi type it in, press enter and it just gives me another root@ubuntu:02:51
_jeffok02:52
Hobbsee!tell Raven301 about kdesu02:52
Raven301Hobbsee: same error02:53
Raven301ii02:53
Hobbsee_jeff: excellent.  it either works, or spits out an error messgae :P02:53
_jeffHobbsee: No DHCPOFFERS recieved02:54
_jeffHobbsee: No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.02:54
Hobbsee_jeff: hmmm okay...did the essid show up in iwconfig this time?02:54
_jeffHobbsee: ill check02:54
_jeffHobbsee: yeah02:54
Hobbseeinteresting...02:55
Hobbseeare there other computers connected to that network?02:55
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_jeffnot wirelessly02:55
_jeffHobbsee: its a mixed network and i have mac filtering on to allow only the laptop to connect02:56
Hobbseeright, okay... is there any other encryption on the router?02:56
Hobbseeand i take it, you've checked that the mac address is the same?02:56
_jeffHobbsee: yeah mac is the same, no other protection02:57
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Hobbseei'd just try takign teh mac address filtering off for a min, then putting it back on...just seeing if that's the problem02:57
Hobbseebut first...02:57
Hobbseeis that the recommended driver for the card?02:57
McScruff_jeff: what chipset?02:57
Hobbseerealtec02:57
Hobbseeer, realtek02:57
McScruffi got my bcm4318 working :)02:58
HobbseeMcScruff: yay!02:58
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=== Hobbsee has a netgear wg511 v2 made in china card - and that eventually works!
McScrufftook many weeks and updateing the kernel didnt help02:58
Hobbseehehe02:58
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_jeffits what ive been using since i got the card, i got the driver because it was on the ndiswrapper driver list beside my card model02:59
McScruffHobbsee: did you look at my error screenshot?02:59
Hobbsee_jeff: okay then03:00
HobbseeMcScruff: er...was my nick attached to it?  if not, probably not03:00
McScruffhttp://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot19nx.png03:00
stephenklhm03:01
Hobbsee[10:56]  <-- Adyeths has left this channel ("Did you hear that two rabbits escaped from the zoo and so far they have only recaptured 116 of them?"). - hahaha!03:01
_jeffHobbsee: ok i turned off mac filtering and am trying again03:01
stephenklHow do I get a USB trackball working instead (or even at the same time as) my laptop's little eraser pad thingie03:01
HobbseeMcScruff: stupid question, but is the password prompt box behind that?03:01
Hobbseestephenkl: er....it doesnt?03:01
stephenklHobbsee: I plug it in and it won't light up and it doesn't work03:02
stephenklI am using kubuntu03:02
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stephenklyeah03:02
Hobbseestephenkl: dapper or breezy?03:02
stephenklbreezy03:02
McScruffHobbsee: nope03:02
stephenklI don't knwo what it's called :p03:02
HobbseeMcScruff: darn.03:02
McScruffHobbsee: didnt come up :(03:02
stephenklthe mouse thingie I mean03:02
_jeffHobbsee: no luck :(03:02
Hobbseestephenkl: yep, okay, i know what you mean03:02
stephenklthis is weird, it should atleast light up03:02
Hobbseethanks stephenkl! :P  _jeff: does the card light up at all?03:03
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_jeffHobbsee: yeah one light is on03:03
Hobbseestephenkl: have you tried rebooting with it in, so that the hardware detection detects it?  you shouldnt have to, but...03:03
Hobbsee!+info wlassistant03:04
ubotuPackage 'wlassistant' does not exist.03:04
Hobbseedarn, i thought that might be the case03:04
_jefffor me?03:04
Hobbsee_jeff: i was just checking if they had that package in breezy03:04
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_jeffim using kubuntu beta03:04
stephenklHobbsee: I haven't tried but I want to see if I can make it work without rebooting03:04
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Hobbsee_jeff: woot!  install knetworkmanager03:05
_jeffHobbsee: lol ok03:05
Hobbseei thought you were stuck on breezy!03:05
Hobbseestephenkl: fair enough03:05
_jefflol03:05
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Hobbsee_jeff: we got a couple of decent wireless tools - dapper only...03:06
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_jefflol awesome03:06
_jeffi already have knetworkmanager installed03:06
Hobbsee_jeff: run it?03:06
_jeffok03:06
burner__greetings :)03:06
HobbseeMcScruff: workaround is to use kdesu kcontrol, instead of system settings03:06
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stephenklhey!03:08
stephenkl /etc/init.d/hotplug does it03:08
stephenkldetects my mouse03:08
stephenklcool03:08
stephenklAUTOMAGICALY *reading rainbow*03:08
_jeffHobbsee: how do i run it? i typed knetworkmanager into the command but nothign happened, then i did it in katapult and still nothing03:09
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Hobbsee_jeff: should have been something appear on your kicker03:09
Hobbseestephenkl: brilliant!03:09
_jefflol oh yeah its been there the whole time03:10
_jeffLOL03:10
_jeffHobbsee?03:12
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Hobbseefeistel: haha03:12
Hobbseeidiotbs|away: please get rid of the away messages03:12
Hobbsee_jeff: try to connect to the correct network using knm then...03:12
slougihi all, in a bit of trouble here with konq. Whenever I open any website, it looks like this: http://lyseo.edu.ouka.fi/~slougi/konqueror_bug.png Note the black at the bottom is the konq window continuing beyond the screen border....03:13
slougiConsole output looks like this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Afdah724.html03:13
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_jeffit says im connected, but i cant see websites or ping anything03:13
slougiso it seems the url label in the statusbar is screwing up for osme reason03:13
slougialso those cannot bitblt messages look weird03:14
_arthurbIs there a kubuntu dev channel ?03:14
Hobbsee_arthurb: yes, #kubuntu-devel03:15
Hobbseeno idea if anyone else is awake though03:15
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_jefflol03:16
Hobbsee_jeff: hmmm....03:16
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_jeffHobbsee: its a dilly isnt it?03:16
Hobbsee_jeff: i'd try to see if any other computers can connect to that router - on any OS03:16
Hobbseethe settings may not be correct03:16
_jeffi was able to connect to my wlan with breezy this morning03:17
_jeffthen i reformatted everything03:17
Hobbseemmm okay...03:17
_jeffand installed beta03:17
Hobbseewhat changed - did you stilluse the same drivers?03:17
Hobbsee(sorry for dodgy typing - so cold!)03:17
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_jeffHobbsee: yeah same drivers and everything03:18
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Hobbsee_jeff: mmm okay03:19
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_jeffCheeseBurgerMan: hey cheesy03:19
CheeseBurgerManHey, jeff.03:19
slougikonq problem fixed...03:19
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wasp_emshi..i was wondeing if i can find window decorations to download from anywhere...03:22
CheeseBurgerManhttp://kde-look.org03:22
_jeffkde-look.org03:22
wasp_emsthanx03:22
CheeseBurgerManNP03:22
_jeffur quick cheesy03:22
CheeseBurgerManPractice. :P03:23
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_jefflol03:23
produkthow do I log into kde automatically after installing ontop of ubuntu03:23
bur[n] erconfigure kdm or gdm to auto-login03:23
produktidk how to do that03:23
bur[n] eranyone else having issues with kcontrol, konq, and kdebase right now with apt?03:24
bur[n] eryou using gdm or kdm?03:24
CheeseBurgerManbur[n] er: I can help you with KDM, not so sure about gdm03:24
CheeseBurgerManErrr03:24
CheeseBurgerManthat was for produkt03:24
Hobbseebur[n] er: er...nope03:24
bur[n] eri can help with gdm, not sure about kdm :)03:24
produktI'm using kdm I think, but it logged into gnome anyways03:24
bur[n] erwait a minute... when you say "automatically" what do you mean?03:25
bur[n] erwithout a username and password prompt?  or you just want to use kde?03:25
wasp_emsis it debian files we use in kubuntu?03:25
CheeseBurgerManwasp_ems: Yep03:25
wasp_emsthanx:)03:25
bur[n] erit's ubuntu files03:25
bur[n] erwhich are in turn debian when from the universe03:25
produktno with username prompt, just dunno howto get into kde after I installed it03:25
bur[n] erprodukt, pick "session" then choose kde :)03:26
produktI tried startkde03:26
produktoh03:26
bur[n] erfrom the login screen03:26
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produktokies, lemme try that03:26
produkttyty03:26
bur[n] eryou can hit "F10" to get the menu as well03:26
Hobbsee_awayback in a bit...03:26
produktbrb, I hope03:26
bur[n] erhasta luego03:26
_jeffHobbsee_away: ok03:27
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wasp_emsi am trying to download a debian file but it tells me i cannot save as it is binary etc..what should i do?03:28
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CheeseBurgerManwasp_ems: open a console and use 'wget <link to download>'03:29
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wasp_emsOk i will try..thanx03:30
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tiglionabbitdo I want to get kubuntu dapper or breezy?03:31
kev1nwhat is the command to go into konqueror as root03:31
kev1ndapper!03:31
tiglionabbitbreezy's not ready?03:32
CheeseBurgerMantiglionabbit: Dapper is the beta, Breezy is the stable version.03:32
tiglionabbitI mean dapper03:32
tiglionabbitI mean *reads this time*03:32
CheeseBurgerManDapper's got a few bugs yet to work out.-- most notable that I've heard is that kcontrol doesn't appear to work03:32
tiglionabbituh..  isn't kcontrol quite important?03:32
CheeseBurgerManYeah. :P03:33
tiglionabbitum...03:33
h3sp4wnkcontrol works for me03:33
tiglionabbithow does it not work?03:33
CheeseBurgerManh3sp4wn: I've seen a few reports of it not working03:33
CheeseBurgerManNever really tried it, though, so I can't give details.03:33
CheeseBurgerMantiglionabbit: i'm not sure -- all I've seen is 'not work' :\03:34
wasp_emsCheeseBurgerMan: thanx..i used wget...it says it got it but it is not doing anything else...what now?03:34
tiglionabbithow does ubuntu and kubuntu sync?  I mean, if I installed ubuntu dapper and asked for a kde package, would it give me kubuntu dapper testing stuff?03:34
wasp_emsok03:34
wasp_emsfound it03:34
CheeseBurgerManwasp_ems: OK, good. :)03:34
CheeseBurgerMantiglionabbit: Yes03:34
tiglionabbitisn't that bad?03:34
CheeseBurgerManUm, how so?03:35
tiglionabbitEven if I do install as ubuntu, I'm going to want things like k3b, so on a supposedly stable release I'd be getting testing packages without knowing it03:35
h3sp4wnubuntu dapper is not stable either03:35
tiglionabbitreally?  I thought it was supposed to be released about now?03:35
CheeseBurgerManYeah, but it was delayed 'til June 1st03:36
CheeseBurgerManSo normally you'd be right, just not now. ;)03:36
tiglionabbitoh03:36
tiglionabbitheh I thought this stuff was locked to a 6-month release cycle03:37
kev1nwhat is the command to go into konqueror as root03:37
CheeseBurgerMankev1n: kdesu konqueror03:37
kev1nta03:37
kev1nhanks03:37
mark---How do you start ssh in Kubuntu? /etc/init.d/ssh start says 'no such file or directory'.03:37
wasp_emsCheeseBurgerMan: i dont seem to find the file it says it got..i got to change the settings but i cannot find the file03:37
wasp_ems:S03:37
CheeseBurgerManwasp_ems: Did you install it? wget just downloads.03:37
tiglionabbitmark---: that means you don't have it.  Install openssh-server03:37
wasp_emsi dont know where it downloaded it03:37
CheeseBurgerManwasp_ems: probably into your home folder03:38
mark---well, i'm running from a live cd in rescue mode and trying to do an rsync of files to another computer03:38
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CheeseBurgerManwasp_ems: the command for installing it is 'sudo dpkg -i <package>.deb03:38
tiglionabbitmark---: you can still install stuff, no problem03:38
mark---ok.03:38
wasp_emsCheeseBurgerMan:  cool i found it..thanx allot03:38
tiglionabbitit installs in ram03:38
CheeseBurgerManYou're welcome, wasp_ems  :)03:39
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tiglionabbitI guess I'll stick with breezy then03:39
CheeseBurgerManProbably a good idea.03:40
produktcan someone dcc me their kubuntu dapper apt sources list?03:40
tiglionabbitheh yeah.  I hate it when people try out an unstable testing release of something and decide it sucks because of the obvious flaws03:41
tiglionabbitI dealt with quite a few people like that while trying to help out in #ubuntu03:41
_arthurbur yeah but dapper is almost out03:41
CheeseBurgerMan!sources03:42
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource03:42
_arthurband the bug fixing should be done by now according to the release plan03:42
tiglionabbitalmost?  2 months isn't almost to me03:42
tiglionabbitwhat's holding them up?03:42
CheeseBurgerManI dunno, I'm not a dev. ;)03:42
tiglionabbitis it hard to get firefox 1.5 on breezy?03:43
tiglionabbitthat is, without compiling myself and screwing up its integration with everything03:43
_arthurbhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule ... notice ?03:43
CheeseBurgerMantiglionabbit: Nah03:44
wasp_emsdpkg: error processing 13969-crystal-1.0.0.tar.bz2.deb (--install):03:44
wasp_ems cannot access archive: No such file or directory03:44
_arthurbbeta has been released03:44
wasp_emsErrors were encountered while processing:03:44
wasp_ems 13969-crystal-1.0.0.tar.bz2.deb03:44
wasp_emsCheeseBurgerMan: i get this error03:44
CheeseBurgerMan!firefox1.503:44
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion03:44
_arthurbnow it's mostly supposed to be documentation03:44
_arthurbUserInterfaceFreeze03:45
_arthurbonly critical bugs are fixed03:45
mark---tiglionabbit: thanks on ssh install, it did install. now working on getting rsync to work. I just returned from Merrill BTW.03:45
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CheeseBurgerManwasp_ems: I think you downloaded the wrong thing03:45
CheeseBurgerManhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=13969&id=203:46
CheeseBurgerMantry that03:46
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tiglionabbitfurk, hour and a half download time on this iso03:49
_jeffcan anybody help me with my wlan problem?03:50
_jeffhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16390403:50
wasp_emsCheeseBurgerMan: the same thing happened..the same error03:51
wasp_emsCheeseBurgerMan: anything else i can do to install it?03:51
CheeseBurgerManwasp_ems: You can compile it03:51
wasp_emsCheeseBurgerMan: i do not know how:(03:52
CheeseBurgerManfirst run 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'03:52
CheeseBurgerManWell, I'll walk you through. :)03:52
wasp_emsok thanx allot03:52
stephenklHave they put out a better version of VLC yet?03:53
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CheeseBurgerManwasp_ems: Run 'sudo apt-get install build-essential kdelibs4-dev'03:54
wasp_emsCheeseBurgerMan: after the first one?03:54
CheeseBurgerManInstead of if you haven't run the first one yet03:54
wasp_emsi have03:54
CheeseBurgerManif you have, just 'sudo apt-get install kdelibs4-dev'03:54
wasp_emsok03:55
CheeseBurgerManNow download the source03:55
wasp_emsCheeseBurgerMan: ok done03:56
CheeseBurgerManExtract it to somewhere03:56
wasp_emsdone03:57
CheeseBurgerMannow navigate to the directoy you extracted it to in a console03:57
CheeseBurgerMan'cd path/to/directory/'03:57
wasp_emsdone03:57
CheeseBurgerMannow run './configure'03:57
wasp_emsok03:58
CheeseBurgerMannow 'make'03:58
wasp_emsit is still configuring03:59
CheeseBurgerManOh03:59
CheeseBurgerManWell, after it configures, run make. ;)03:59
wasp_emsok03:59
CheeseBurgerManAfter that's done run 'sudo make install'04:00
wasp_emsdone04:01
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wasp_emswait casue it has some errors04:01
wasp_emsi will re do the whole thing04:01
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CheeseBurgerManNo, wait04:01
wasp_emsok04:02
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CheeseBurgerManTry running 'sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev'04:02
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viatordoes the update manager work in kde04:02
viatoror should i say is there a kde equivalent04:02
crimsunadept is.04:03
wasp_emsdone04:03
ArthurBadept04:03
CheeseBurgerManThen try running './configure && make && sudo make install'04:03
CheeseBurgerManwhich runs all three commands without you having to type them one after another. :)04:03
viatorim talking about the thing that tells you you have updates04:03
viatorin gnome04:03
ice_1963Dapper is installed :0)04:03
ArthurByes, and    make; make clean; make; make clean; make; make install provides confortable heat to your room04:04
wasp_emsCheeseBurgerMan: ok done04:05
viatormake; make insane04:05
CheeseBurgerManwasp_ems: OK, then go to Control Center > Appearance & Themes > Window Decorations and 'Crystal' should appear. :)04:05
ice_1963text base is better for installing dapper04:05
produkthow is dapper?04:05
wasp_emsCheeseBurgerMan: ok thanx allot04:05
viatoror emerge insanity?04:06
CheeseBurgerManwasp_ems: NP04:06
viatordapper is good04:06
ice_1963yes i is:)04:06
produktupgrading to it now, almost half way there04:06
viatorim using it but not on ubuntu or kubuntu04:06
wasp_emsCheeseBurgerMan: perfect..thanx 10 times more:)04:06
viatornor xubuntu04:06
CheeseBurgerManwasp_ems: Heh, I'm using crystal too -- it's a great deco. :)04:07
produktxubuntu?04:07
ice_1963xubuntu is good to04:07
CheeseBurgerManprodukt: Ubuntu with XFCE04:07
viatorim running mepis04:07
produktoooh ok04:07
viatorwith ubuntu dapper base04:07
CheeseBurgerManDoes it? I thought it used the breezy base.04:08
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ice_1963i have dapper installed now can i get the driver for nvidia ?04:10
ice_1963nvidia-glx nvidia-settings04:11
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kev1nin booting dapper..... i get to configuring network interfaces and it says it is done but then it freezes ... goes no further04:14
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kev1nany ideas anyone04:14
savedRI got a problem.04:15
savedRWith wlan0.04:15
savedRI don't know how to configer the darn thing.04:15
savedRI've successfully installed a WinXP driver with ndiswrapper and04:16
savedRrun sudo ndiswrapper -m..04:16
savedR..but ifconfig and iwconfig still don't show wlan0.04:16
savedRhah, I said "configer". SB configure. :D04:16
viatorsudo modprobe ndiswrapper04:17
ice_1963:)04:17
ice_1963brb04:18
wasp_emsCheeseBurgerMan: thanx allot for everything..good night04:18
savedRAbsolutely nothing happens.04:20
savedRI just get another command prompt.04:20
savedRDoesn't even call for user password; I can do it without "sudo".04:20
viatoris this a broadcome  chipset?04:21
viatormaybe a linksys04:21
viatorim not expert on networks ans ESPECIALLY not ndiswrapper04:22
viatorbut i have used it before04:22
savedRIt's PrismGT-based.04:22
savedRIt's an SMC card, SMC 2802W.04:23
savedRSupposed to work with ndiswrapper.04:23
savedRLike, my problem is, do I have to do anything to actually get wlan0 config-d?04:23
savedRRight now Networking shows a single disabled interface, eth0.04:23
savedRAnd I can't enable it, because when I hit Administrator Mode button, it asks for my password, then doesn't do anything at all.04:24
HobbseesavedR: what does ndiswrapper -l say?04:24
savedRI mean, just goes right back out of Admin Mode.04:24
viatoryou need to tell it what the issid is and  a few other things04:24
Hobbseeand use kdesu kcontrol instead of system settings04:24
viatoressid04:24
savedRSays: "Installed ndis drivers:"04:24
savedR"2802w driver present, hardware present04:24
Hobbseeright, so it should show up...04:25
Hobbseeyou can use sudo dhclient eth004:25
Hobbseeto get the wired connection working04:25
savedRThing is, I don't have a wired adapter installed.04:25
savedRJust the wireless.04:25
viatorsudo ifconfig wlano up   ?maybe04:26
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viatoror try ifup wlan004:27
savedRK..04:27
viator!ndiswrapper04:28
ubotuwell, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper04:28
savedRTried sudo ifconfig wlan0 up.04:28
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savedR"wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"04:28
HobbseesavedR: oh ok04:28
savedRTried sudo ifup wlan0.04:30
savedR"Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0.04:30
savedRTried it with eth0 just for kicks, got the same thing.04:30
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viatoryeah if you do iwlist scan04:32
viatorwhat does it say04:32
viatorno wireless ?04:32
viatorinterface doesnt support scanning or somthing04:32
savedRHow do I do iwlist?04:33
savedRTried to find a /? --? -? flag, nothing on iwlist.04:33
savedRLike, I don't know what option to use.04:33
viatortype iwlist scan04:34
savedROnly lists lo "Interface doesn't support scanning" and eth0 "No scan results".04:34
savedRIt's just absolutely refusing to even see wlan0.04:35
viatorhmmm04:35
savedRAnd, if I could, I'd enable eth0, but nothing I'm trying's working.04:35
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savedRI wonder if it treats wlan0 as an alias for eth0, since my PCI wireless adapter's the only one installed.04:35
viatorlo        Interface doesn't support scanning.......eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning04:35
savedRFor my eth0 it says "No scan results".04:36
viatoryours didnt say doesnt support scanning04:36
viatorweird04:36
savedRAnd if I modprobe eth0, it says "FATAL: eth0 not found."04:36
savedRBut if I modprobe wlan0, it shows no error message.04:36
viatoreth0 isnt a module04:36
savedRShouldn't it list my access devices in /dev/ ?04:37
viatortry doing sudo ifup eth0 for shits and giggles04:37
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savedR"Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0."04:38
viatordo you have a regualr card?04:38
viatorwired etherenet i mean04:39
savedRYeah...04:40
savedRIs wired supported heavier?04:41
viatoralways04:42
viatorbut i  was wondwering why eth0 was there if you had only a wireless card04:42
viatorthe windows driver you have04:42
viatoryou only have 2 files in the folder right04:43
savedRYep, 2802W.inf and the sys file.04:43
viatori had a hell of a time with drivers04:43
viatoronly a certain one would work04:43
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viatorand they were all supposed to be for the same card04:44
justanotheruseri was just asking myself, is there a reason why some options after a command have to be given with double - instead of just one -?04:46
savedRI saw something about that viator, I may try the Win2000 drivers, etc.04:47
savedRCould even try Win98 drivers, right? They should be 32-bit, shouldn't they?04:47
savedRI mean, Win95 might not be, but..04:47
viatoryes04:48
viatori found a driver on their ftp server04:48
viatorlinksys's server that is04:48
savedRYes, but Linksys is a GOOD company. :D04:49
savedRHehe. Not much support for ol' Linux from SMC, I can tell you.04:49
savedRI did find the driver files from the ndiswrapper Sourceforge site for my card, though.04:50
savedRAnd, now that I'm looking at the files, the WinXP drivers use a differently-named .sys file than the drivers04:50
savedRfor all other OS's.04:50
savedRSo, I bet if I grab Win2000, it may work. The sourceforge page for ndiswrapper said someone got the card to work under Gentoo.04:51
viatormodprobe -r prism5404:51
viatortry that04:52
viatorthen04:52
viatormodprobe ndiswrapper04:52
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savedRk.04:52
savedRJust removed prism54, had to sudo. Just a sec, trying modprobe ndiswrapper.04:53
davixwhen I came back home I have found that my pc has halted and didn't respond to anything. any guesses? i've just recently installd kubuntu dapper, before I was with ubuntu hoary and kubuntu breezy and it never happend04:53
davixmy guess is acpi stuff, could be04:53
davix?04:53
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savedRviator, did modprobe ndiswrapper, nothing happened.04:54
savedRGot a new command prompt on a new line.04:54
viatornow what does ndiswrapper -l say?04:54
HobbseesavedR: yes, but did the card start flashing?04:55
savedRThe LED's?04:55
viatoryeah04:55
Hobbseeyes04:56
savedRNo LED response.04:56
savedRNow, ndiswrapper -l returns04:56
savedR"Installed drivers:"04:56
viatorare the lights even lit up?04:56
savedRNope.04:56
savedR"2802w    Invalid driver!"04:56
viatorhmm maybe its installed wrong?04:57
savedRSo, remove and reinstall it?04:57
davixwhen I came back home I have found that my pc has halted and didn't respond to anything. any guesses? i've just recently installd kubuntu dapper, before I was with ubuntu hoary and kubuntu breezy and it never happend?04:57
davixanyone04:57
davix?04:57
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viatoryes04:58
savedRk.04:58
viatormakes sure you put the exact location and name of the file04:58
savedRYeah, i've been moving it to /home/(my username) and going ndiswrapper -i ~/(file).inf04:59
mark---So, are any of you using the 6.06 LTS Beta? I want to choose a Kubuntu for my notebook...04:59
Hobbseemark---: yeah, i am04:59
viatorndiswrapper -e drivername04:59
mark---Hobbsee: do you like it?05:00
Hobbseemark---: yeah, then again, i've been using it fully since...january or so...05:00
mark---Hobbsee: would that probably be my main choice, then, for a notebook as a desktop environment?05:01
Hobbseenotebook05:01
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viatorwhat kind of notebook05:02
viator?05:02
mark---Dell, 14 inch, 8100.05:03
viatorhmmnever used a dell05:03
mark---It's been running Kanotix just fine.05:03
viatori dont use their desktops either because of propreitary harware05:03
viatornon standard power supplies etc05:04
viatorexcellen mark05:04
mark---I have run Breezy on my PowerBook for about 7 months just fine, but no flash from macromedia ;(05:04
mark---I agree about Dell.05:04
mark---But the Dell is working so...05:04
viatorhey if you have it and it works thats greatg05:05
mark---What do you guys think are the higher quality notebooks for Linux?05:05
viatorwell it used to always be ibm05:05
viatorthinkpads05:05
viatoralways worked well05:05
viatorafter that  i would goto hp05:05
mark---It does seem that Linux users with Thinkpads are happy with them, rugged, lots of choices for accessories like batteries.05:06
viatorthe only thing on alot of hp's thats annoying is boradcome wireless05:06
viator-e05:06
viatorbut not that theyve reverse engineered that it should be fine for most05:07
Hobbseeviator: toshiba a10 satellite.  it tends to overheat.05:07
Hobbseewhen running high graphic games on it...05:07
Hobbseefine for kubuntu though05:07
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viatoryeah im no gamer05:09
viatorso linux is great for me05:09
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HobbseeSysinfo for 'sarah': Linux 2.6.15-20-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Mobile Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz at 2394 MHz (4790 bogomips), HD: 9/36GB, RAM: 449/487MB, 90 proc's, 2.39h up05:10
Hobbseeviator: system specs :P ^05:10
viatorwhere you get all thatr info?05:10
viatoruname?05:10
viator-a05:10
viator?05:10
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Hobbseeviator: /exec sysinfo05:12
Hobbseeif you're using konv05:12
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farticusAnyone here running LTS beta yet?05:14
Hobbseefarticus: yes05:14
farticusHow's it working for you? Any improvements over Flight 6?05:14
Hobbseeworking pretty well...seems a little improved - hard to tell though05:15
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farticusThe question is: do I need to download the CD to upgrade, or what? I'm running Flight 6...05:16
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[Nirvana] farticus: dist-upgrade05:17
farticus[Nirvana] : thanks!05:18
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farticusAnyone here fax stuff in KDE?05:27
viatorfaxing is another thing on the list of things that arent supoorted very well in linux05:28
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farticusShoot... I really need to fax something!05:28
Snake__Is it possible to use kate on windows?05:28
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viatorsnake not yet05:28
Snake__it has to be..05:28
farticusMaybe if KDE ran under Cygwin...05:29
viatorwell maybe if you used cygwin or whatever05:29
Snake__:-/05:29
viatoryou CAN fax05:29
viatorbut i dont know if your harware will be supported well05:29
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farticuswell, I have an IBM Thinkpad T30 with some sort of AC'97 compliant modem...05:30
farticusI don't think it is a Winmodem, but I'm not sure.05:30
farticusSnake__: Check out http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/ it looks like an old version of KDE, but it will run (along with Kate) under Windows05:31
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Snake__farticus: I dont want to run all of kde tho :-/05:31
Snake__Just kate, its a great progtam05:31
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viatorTRY KFAX?05:31
farticusI'm using KdeprintFax... Kfax is just a fax viewer.05:32
viatorI SEE05:32
farticusThe problem isn't with the modem, as far as I can tell.05:32
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farticusWhen I try to fax a file, it tells me that it can't find the file. The file obviously is there, so I don't know what the problem is.05:33
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farticusUnfortunately no one at the KDE channel seems willing to help.05:34
viatorMAYBE ITS THE format?05:34
farticusI've tried both PS and PDF, to no avail. PS is what is required by KdeprintFax.05:35
mark---I'm trying to learn to use bittorent. I launch and then the app asks for my 'meta file'. What's that?05:35
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farticusmark---: What client are you using?05:36
[Nirvana] mark---: to download using bittorrent, you need to first specify a .torrent meta file containing the file you wish to download05:36
mark---It just says bit torent, It's breezy on ppc05:36
viatorhttp://www.hylafax.org/content/Main_Page05:36
viatorthts  cool05:37
[Nirvana] mark---: OK, what bittorrent software do you have?05:37
mark---please hold...05:37
farticusviator: thanks, I'll try that..05:37
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[Nirvana] mark---: what I mean is what do you install using adept/apt-get?05:39
[Nirvana] mark---: what *did* you install ^^05:39
mark---the distro came with bittorent.05:39
mark---i'm checking using synaptic to see what I've got.05:39
[Nirvana] mark---: alright, for simplicity, I suggest downloading and using BitTornado (quite ugly) or Ktorrent (pretty) bittorrent clients05:40
mark---It's just bittorrent from  Homepage: http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/05:40
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gary_synaptic is better then adept i think05:41
[Nirvana] yes ^05:41
mark---OK, I'll browse with synaptic and pick a bittorrent client.05:41
mark---yes, synaptic is the way to go.05:41
sheldonglhow is synaptic better?05:41
mark---well, it seems easier to use, and clearer interface.05:42
farticusAnd anyway, Adept doesn't work on my Kubuntu install for some odd reason.05:42
mark---CLI apt-get and dpkg are excellent though also.05:42
gary_well use it you will find out :)05:42
[Nirvana] TBH I use adept when I need a quick GUI, but mostly I use apt-get05:43
sheldonglaptitude is nice05:43
gary_yes it is05:43
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[Nirvana] does anyone know if the free Ubuntu CD's are actually free in Canada? (ie: no tax, holding fee, etc) I'm in Ontario btw.05:53
BobLoblawi dont know, but i had a guy at work bring a box in one day05:54
BobLoblawwhy not just DL it ? much less hassle.05:54
Snake__[Nirvana] : I believe they ship anywhere free05:54
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[Nirvana] Snake__: 128K connection, not very speedy05:59
Snake__ahhh tru.dat05:59
[Nirvana] Snake__: I am downloading a Kubuntu DVD though, just could use an Ubuntu CD for a quick install.06:00
Snake__[Nirvana] : why the DVD?06:00
mark---Nirvana: I downloaded Ktorrent and I think I'm catching on although there is no documentation. Thanks.06:00
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[Nirvana] mark---: If you need help ask...06:00
Snake__[Nirvana] : "State/Province:"06:01
Snake__I assume that means canada06:01
Snake__and its in the list, so it should be free :)06:01
[Nirvana] I just hope it fits in the mailbox so I don't have to ask for a drive to pick it up06:03
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edgard006:10
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[Nirvana] and my mouse has lost sync again :(06:14
mutant3hi there06:14
mutant3I have a problem with the aMule 2.1.1. I just compiled the sources (after install wxGtk 2.6.3) and now I have this error when i try to load aMule06:14
mutant3$ amule06:14
mutant3amule: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2_adv-2.6.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory06:14
mutant3all that in Kubuntu 5.1006:15
mutant3does anyone have the same problem?06:15
[Nirvana] was there any errors in building?06:16
farticusit sounds like the shared libs aren't properly installed06:16
mutant3not error on bulding06:16
[Nirvana] do you have libwxgtk2.6-dev?06:17
mutant3yes,06:17
mutant3 sudo apt-cache search libwx 2.606:17
mutant3Password:06:17
mutant3libwxgtk2.6-0 - wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ runtime)06:17
mutant3libwxgtk2.6-dbg - wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ development)06:17
mutant3libwxgtk2.6-dev - wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ development)06:17
[Nirvana] actually, try find / -name libwx_gtk2_adv-2.606:18
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mutant3let's see....06:19
[Nirvana] you may have to sudo it06:19
mutant3yes, is searching...06:20
Search4Lancerhow do I get libvisual? is it a package?06:22
[Nirvana] is it a visualization pkg?06:23
mutant3didn't find it06:24
Search4Lancernevermind, I found it in Adept06:24
[Nirvana] libvisual0.2 - Audio visualization framework06:24
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[Nirvana] mutant3: do you have Osmo Salmaas (I don't know his name) repository? You should apt-get build-dep amule from it06:24
mutant3nop. i will search that repository06:25
[Nirvana] one sec06:26
[Nirvana] I have it06:26
mutant3Oh, thanks06:26
[Nirvana] # Osmo Salomas CVS amule packages (packages, GPG key: 70188C3B)06:27
[Nirvana] deb http://koti.mbnet.fi/~ots/ubuntu breezy/06:27
[Nirvana] # Osmo Salomas CVS amule packages (sources, GPG key: 70188C3B)06:27
[Nirvana] deb-src http://koti.mbnet.fi/~ots/ubuntu breezy/06:27
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[Nirvana] you might want to add the GPG for it, because when you apt-get update and you don't have a GPG key, it errors thinking the packages are unsafe06:28
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[Nirvana] to add the key: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 70188C3B; gpg --export --armor 70188C3B | sudo apt-key add -06:29
mutant3Oh, i have that repository. i will try06:29
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[Nirvana] sudo apt-get clean, then sudo apt-get build-dep amule, then sudo apt-get source amule, then cp /var/cache/apt/archives/*.* /whatever/dir/you/wanna/build/in06:31
[Nirvana] and with that I am going to bed.06:32
mutant3thank you06:33
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pappuaCan some one please help me in compiling KDE4 or atlease a small application in KDE I would like to contribute to KDE.  I am a java programmer and am learning c++(QT).  I woud like to contribute to KDE06:41
pappuaHello Any body06:42
pappuaHello06:43
mutant3hi. i cant help you. sorry06:43
HobbseeTm_T: ping?06:44
pappuaping?06:45
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pappuacan atlease point out to me in the right direction06:46
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davixis there an audio multi tracking recording app for linux?06:46
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mutant3there is a linux distro for musicians06:49
mutant3http://www.musix.org.ar/06:49
mutant3from argentina06:49
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davixmutant3, yes, but I like my distro, thanks though :)06:54
mutant3i know06:54
mutant3but you can see the apps on that distro06:55
davixyes, I can, thanks.06:56
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monduntuls06:59
mutant3lol06:59
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gleesondanyone know how to fix KDM.... it works after a reboot but if I try to logout it always locks up... and I cant get a vertual terminal to kill it so I end up having to reboot if I want to switch users07:05
gleesondI guess I don't know where to start looking it fix this problem07:06
stan_does anyone know how to make kubuntu to perform PC shut down when I click 'Power' button? Kubuntu doesn't seem to react to this button at all, however Windows works as it's supposed to07:06
mutant3gleesond what kde are you using it?07:09
mutant3i had that problem on kde 3.4.2 i think, but on mandriva07:09
mutant3when i did an upgrade to next kde version, the bug was fixed07:10
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gleesondthe kde with dapper07:19
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poimensomeone using dapper beta?07:32
ice_1963i was07:32
poimenu installed from the live cd or the install one?07:32
ice_1963text base07:32
poimenI see...07:33
poimenI was thinking of installing it...07:33
aeon17xpoimen: try the live CD first07:33
poimenI was using kubuntu 5.10 with kde 2.5.207:34
poimen3.5.2**07:34
poimenI think there will be no diference07:34
poimenin looks07:34
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DeadS0ulhello07:51
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mutant3hello07:58
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Shinyanyone know a FOOS linux-ey app, that'll take a midi and display as a score?07:59
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DeadS0ulrosegarden?08:02
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DeadS0ulholy crap, big update for dapper flight 6 today08:09
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boga?08:19
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ciph^hi..ive been looking for an answer to this question for a couple of hours now.  is it possible for prelink to cause kubuntu to no longer work..as in i can't even login at all?08:24
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DeadS0ula ..prelink?08:34
ciph^yea.08:35
DeadS0ulsorry I dunno =\08:35
ciph^well, thanks anyway08:35
DeadS0ulyou could tryu asking in #linuxhelp on undernet, they know the guts of linux pretty well08:36
ciph^k, will do08:37
DenHi - Can I get some help with Debian Etch & KDE??08:41
DenHi - Mouse help please?  I just installed Etch + KDE (apt install kde).  The mouse lacks proper acceleration, & I can't get it to accelerate by changing the control panel setting.  Suggestions?  Also, the touchpad doesn't work. Sony Vaio Laptop.  sonypi driver is loaded.  Anyone heard about these kind of mouse problems?  Suggestions?08:41
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DeadS0uldo you have syaptics installed?08:47
DeadS0ulsynaptics even08:47
DeadS0ul..btw try asking in #kde08:47
DenDeadS0ul: If you're question is to me, What is sysnaptics?08:48
DeadS0ulksynaptics - A KDE application to configure Synaptics TouchPad08:48
DenDeadS0ul: Thx - I'll try that - Any other ideas why this occurs in Debian?  I don't have this problem with kubuntu08:50
DeadS0ulnot really08:51
DeadS0ulit works fine with my note book but i used debian sid with xorg08:51
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puckman_afk?08:55
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BroxtorYesterday I upgraded my Dapper. When I restarded my computer this morning everything is smaller. All fonts are smaller, all icons on my desktop are smaller and it looks like all windows are look different also. Any idea what happened?09:14
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paxBroxtor: maybe your resolution changed, double check it.09:19
Broxtorresolution is the same09:20
paxwell, if it's font issue then you can make them bigger .. I don't want to suggest reconfiguring xorg before making simple user prefs changes09:21
paxdon't you have kcontrol in kubuntu?09:22
Broxtorpax: It's not only the fonts that have changed.09:22
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ninniuzITAhi09:22
Broxtorpax: My firefox theme look crappy now as well as my KDE windows.09:22
ninniuzITAhow can I upgrade my kubuntu breezy to dapper?09:22
cfraz89ninniuzITA:09:23
paxBroxtor: find where you can change dpi in kubuntu, find out what you have there09:23
cfraz89change all the breezy to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list09:23
cfraz89and run sudo-apt get update09:23
ninniuzITAok tnx09:23
cfraz89then sudo-apt get dist-upgrade09:23
paxif it's a small number like 72, make it 9609:23
cfraz89np09:23
Broxtorpax: any idea on where I might find that?09:24
paxI don't use kubuntu, but I'm sure it's somewhere in your kcontrol09:24
cfraz89kde doesnt allow setting of dpi09:25
cfraz89just paste:09:25
cfraz89Xft.dpi:9609:25
cfraz89into ~/.Xresources09:26
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paxthere, try that :-)09:26
cfraz89:)09:26
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DenDeadS0ul: Does the synaptics touchpad get installed in Debian by a loadable module - lsmod?09:28
paxso how's kubuntu looking in dapper cfraz89?09:28
n3tfuryi'm new to linux, but am running the newest dapper live cd.  had to manually mount my ntfs drives, but everything else was good to go.09:29
cfraz89pax: good !09:30
paxDen, what lappy are you using?09:30
Denpax: ? sony vaio?09:31
ninniuzITAcfraz89: trying what you said...but I'm noticing it would like to remove kde09:31
cfraz89the synaptics driver is an xorg driver i think09:31
paxI'm surprised you are specifying debian in your question and asking here .. are you using Ubuntu/Kubuntu?09:31
cfraz89ninniuzITA: doesnt sound good09:31
cfraz89does it try to install a newer one?09:32
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Denpax - no, DeadS0ul was helping me with debian ihn this channel09:32
ninniuzITAcfraz89: I have found a web page reporting this...and someone is saying to do this before "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"09:32
paxyes it is, and I don't have any problem wih synaptics touchpad on this inspiron 930009:32
ninniuzITAcfraz89: before the dist-upgrade cause it says it gives kde a higher priority so that it will remain installed09:32
cfraz89oh ok09:32
cfraz89try it  i guess09:33
Denpax:  "it is" _what_?09:33
cfraz89gtg09:33
paxI answered cfraz89, when he said it's an xorg driver09:33
Denpax: Kubuntu works fine on this laptop, including touchpad & mouse acceleration - but those fail on Debian Ethch, which I'm trying to get running.09:34
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paxI don't know what to suggest Den, sorry. ask in #ubuntu or check the forum09:35
Denpax: thx :)09:35
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Broxtorcfraz89: pax: My fonts are back to original size now, but the rest still looks crappy.09:36
paxdefine 'the rest'?09:36
Broxtor"skins" on windows are gone and also my icons on the desktop are smaller09:38
paxI would try to change the themes, then switch back as first step ..09:39
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Broxtorpax: switch back to current theme that is?09:41
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paxI would just change the themes .. yeah of you like09:41
paxif*09:41
paxuse the default themes to check everything is fine I guess09:42
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ninniuzITAcan anyone help me with breezy-dapper upgrade?09:43
pax<cfraz89> change all the breezy to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list09:45
pax<cfraz89> and run sudo-apt get update09:45
pax<ninniuzITA> ok tnx09:45
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ninniuzITAas I said it wants to delete kde09:46
laszlokninniuzITA: whats the problem, its removing kde?09:46
ninniuzITAyes it would do so09:46
DeadS0ulwait don't do that09:47
DeadS0uluse the install cd09:47
ninniuzITAdont worry I have done nothing09:47
ninniuzITADeadS0ul: how should I use it?09:48
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laszlokninniuzITA: do you have the package kubuntu-desktop installed?09:51
ninniuzITAwell I guess so09:52
ninniuzITAlet me check09:53
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ninniuzITAnop it is not installed09:54
laszlokninniuzITA: im not sure it does anything, but install it then try dist-upgrade again09:57
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ninniuzITAok trying09:58
ninniuzITAhad to install akode first09:58
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ninniuzITAlaszlok: do you mean I should get kubuntu-desktop from dapper?10:07
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Murray_BHi!10:09
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laszlokninniuzITA: i meant get it from breezy, but either works i think10:09
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ninniuzITAlaszlok: I got it from breezy but it is still the same10:10
Vgehttp://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/ <-- somebody can help me to install this app? when i download it and try to run it, it says "libborqt-6.9-qt2.3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"?10:11
ninniuzITAmissing that library Vge?10:12
Murray_BI'm just thinking about switching over to kubuntu but I want to have kde 3.5.2. Is it possible to Install kubuntu 06.06 beta aand update to the final version later? Or are there any serious bugs and I shouldn't do that?10:13
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Vgeim checking atm10:13
dumbkiwiMurray_B: Yes, and no.10:13
BobLoblawwhats in 3.5.2 thats a must have?10:13
Murray_BBobLoblaw: Better HTML-rendering and my existing 3.5.2-config ;-)10:16
BobLoblawMurray_B: ah :)10:16
Murray_Bdumbkiwi: Thanks10:16
dumbkiwiVge: I think that's a lib from qt-2.3, which is quite old.  How badly do you need that app?10:17
Murray_BBobLoblaw: And there is a bug gone which got on my nerves for years... I'm using knetload which uses 2 places in the system-area. Since 3.5.2 they are always next to each other.10:18
Vgedumbkiwi: well i guess i justt run it trought vmware10:18
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henkepenkHey10:21
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henkepenkDoes someone know the default root password?10:21
henkepenkcause i need to install java,10:21
henkepenkBut i cant without the root10:21
Zairelol root account is disabled so thats kinda a good question and one Ive been wondering about10:22
henkepenk=\10:22
henkepenkSo then i can't install java:s10:22
cfraz89henkepenk: use sudo -s10:22
bhna!root10:22
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.10:22
cfraz89and type your own password10:22
henkepenkok10:22
henkepenkty10:22
Vgeroot password is the first added user password10:23
henkepenksudo -s needs an password10:23
henkepenk!root is not working =\10:24
ubotu...but root is already something else...10:24
henkepenkill check the link10:24
cfraz89your password10:24
BobLoblawits your password10:24
henkepenkok10:24
Zaireso how do you get close to or 100% compatability with Nvidia on Kubuntu it doesn't like my FX 520010:24
BobLoblawhowever you logged into this machine10:24
cfraz89Zaire: i have a 520010:24
cfraz89go10:24
cfraz89it works10:24
Zairehmmmm whenever I try to do anything in KDE or gnome on it after I login it locks up10:25
cfraz89try dissabling renderaccel10:25
cfraz89it is enabled by default in newest drivers10:25
cfraz89in xorg.conf10:25
cfraz89Option "RenderAccel" "False"10:26
ZaireI don't have an acces option ....so I have to add it?10:26
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Zaireaccel*10:26
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kameronhow do i disable the sound server at startup?10:26
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Zairehmmm i'll have to get a re-partitioning utility so I can section off space for kubuntu anyone know of any good ones I could look into?10:29
ninniuzITAqtparted?10:31
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dumbkiwikameron: which sound server?10:31
dumbkiwikameron: arts?10:32
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kamerondumbkiwi: i suppose so, yes.10:36
dumbkiwikameron: are you using kde?10:36
kameronyes.10:36
Zairekde rock gnomes well gnome lol10:36
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dumbkiwikameron: in the main menu, open System Settings, then click on sound & multimedia.  Then uncheck the "enable the sound system" box.10:37
morrowhmmm anyone using baghira with dapper here?10:38
dumbkiwiZaire: fdisk10:38
kamerondumbkiwi: alrighty10:38
dumbkiwiZaire: or do you need to resize non-destructively?10:38
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ninniuzITAdumbwiki: what's wrong with qtparted?10:42
ninniuzITAdumbkiwi: what's wrong with qtparted?10:42
ninniuzITAlol10:42
ZaireI need to resize so that I can still boot into crappy windows when I need to lol10:43
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dumbkiwininniuzITA: I haven't had a lot of success with it.  Does it do non-destructive resizing?10:43
ninniuzITAdumbkiwi: well it seems it is a partition magic clone...hence it should10:44
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ZaireIve actually seen quite a few bug reports on the same issue Im having with the crash and I narrowed it down Using Nvidia+crash and got a whole lot of results all the ones I read similar10:45
ninniuzITAZaire: what kind of crash?10:45
Zairetotal system lock up10:46
ninniuzITAwow10:46
ninniuzITAit is working fine here10:46
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Zairedunno if its any of my other hardware but ubuntu and kubuntu both crash on me :S10:46
dumbkiwiZaire: have you tried the nv drivers?  Do they produce the same crash?10:46
ZaireI tried to install the driver I downloaded and burnt to cd and it couldn't even install them10:47
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dumbkiwiZaire: what driver?10:47
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Zaire1.0-7474 I think and also 1.0-767610:48
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dumbkiwiZaire: Do you have the kernel sources installed?  Do you have a working development tool-chain?  ie gcc, make and the like?10:50
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Zairegcc yea not sure about make and as for kernel sources I tried to apt-get them and came up empty handed10:50
ninniuzITAZaire: nv is the default one...you should have it installed already10:50
Zaireyep10:50
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ninniuzITAZaire: did you read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia ?10:51
dumbkiwiZaire: so what version of the nvidia drivers do you have installed at the moment?10:52
Zairewell at the moment Im in XP and its taking the whole HD but the one I usually use is 1.0-767610:52
dumbkiwiZaire: so you don't have linux installed at all?  I'm confused.10:53
Zaireno I did but Ive been having issues with the distro's I was using10:53
dumbkiwiZaire: perhaps you should install ubuntu, and then come back so people can help you on a live system10:55
Zairecept I can't run it without immediate crash10:55
dumbkiwiZaire: But have you tried ubuntu?10:55
Zaireyep10:55
ZaireIve tried Redhat 9 mandriva 10.2 mandrake 9.2 Suse 10.1 64 bit kubuntu i386 ubuntu amd64 debian and the only one I had10:56
Zairemandriva and debian were the only stable ones10:56
dumbkiwiZaire: have you tried dapper?10:56
Zairenope was wondering if it may work better though10:57
dumbkiwiZaire: which is the latest ubuntu10:57
Zaire?10:57
dumbkiwiZaire: could do.  Try the live cd, see what happens.10:57
Zairewould be easier then a full download which would take me 7 hours on my connection lol10:58
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Zaireso with the option thing it goes like this with the space between render and false right? Option "renderaccel" "false"11:01
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DeadS0ulxcompmgr doesn't play nice with kde11:01
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dumbkiwiDeadS0ul: kde has its own composite manager called kompmgr11:02
DeadS0uloh11:02
DeadS0uldon't see it in kubuntu's repositories though11:03
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dumbkiwiIt's part of kwin.  Go into system settings, click on desktop, then Window Behaviour, and there's a tab for Translucency.11:04
DeadS0ulthats' what I used11:04
dumbkiwiDeadS0ul: You can configure all sorts of things from there.11:04
DeadS0ulit crashes with kopete11:04
dumbkiwiwhat crashes?11:04
DeadS0ulX11:05
DeadS0ul=(11:05
dumbkiwiAs in back at a tty?11:05
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DeadS0ulpretty much, kdm restarts11:05
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dumbkiwiWhat video card?11:05
DeadS0ulnvidia 660011:06
ZaireI knew it lol11:06
DeadS0ulusing nvidia kernel drivers and X11:06
DeadS0ulheh11:06
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dumbkiwiDeadS0ul: dapper?11:06
DeadS0ulZaire: 1 Deads0ul : -$100 for new video card11:06
DeadS0ulyeap, dapper11:06
Zairehmmmm so I guess dapper won't help my prob there either lol11:07
DeadS0ulhehehe probably not11:07
DeadS0ulbet it's nvidia's fault11:07
dumbkiwiDeadS0ul: Sorry, I run gentoo on the only box with an nvidia card, and that runs fine.11:07
ZaireFX5200 in mine wanna upgrade to X800 XL though lol11:08
dumbkiwiDeadS0ul: I run kubuntu on my laptop with intel i915gm, and kompmgr runs very stable on there also.11:08
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dumbkiwiZaire: I've got an FX5200 running very well on gentoo.11:08
Zairemaybe but mine also ran on debian but not on kubuntu so theres a compatibility difference atleast thats what Ive been finding between distros11:09
DeadS0ulkubuntu is xorg 7.0, dunno bout debian sid..11:10
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dumbkiwiMy gentoo box runs xorg7.011:10
Zairedunno but my main issue with debian was its lack of compatibility with skype :S11:11
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dumbkiwiDeadS0ul: Is kompmgr stable if you stay away from kopete?11:11
DeadS0ulyeap11:11
DeadS0ulwell I install xcompmgr, and configured it in kcontrol -> Desktop ...11:12
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DeadS0ulis kompmgr a frontend for xcompmrg?11:12
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dumbkiwiDeadS0ul: no.  It's built into kwin.  A completely separate implementation.11:13
bhnaDeadS0ul: kompmgr is an other compmanager11:14
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Zairewell anyway I gtg laters all11:14
DeadS0ulnet split eh11:14
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Zaba_hey people11:19
Zaba_can anyone help me?11:20
smannehvorfor kan jeg ikke hre mp311:20
jpatrick!nl11:20
ubotuOp #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.11:20
bhnai think the window-dekoration in dapper should have round corners in upper left and right corners11:22
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ninHerhi all11:23
Zaba_hi ninHer11:23
ninHerhi Zaba_11:24
Zaba_i need help with dapper on VMWare11:24
Zaba_can anyone help me?11:24
ninHeri 'm sorry Zaba_ VMWare is not my best11:25
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ccc_jpatrick: that was norwegian, not dutch :)11:25
ccc_!no11:25
ubotuccc_: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:25
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ccc_smanne: try #ubuntu-no or #ubuntu-se / #kubuntu-se for norwegian/swedish11:27
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DeadS0ulhas anyone gotten lirc using a bttv remote working with dapper?11:27
smanneis ther a dk irc11:29
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ninHernickserv identify ninHer11:33
ccc_smanne: no :(11:33
ccc_ubotu: tell smanne about mp311:33
smannethanks ccc11:34
smannei am new to linux11:35
ninHerwelcome smanne11:35
ccc_welcome11:35
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smannetanks to all my eng is not so god11:36
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solancan anyone help me? I'm looking for a way to make a link within a database...11:37
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ccc_smanne: then try the swedish channels if you prefer that, they are active11:37
solan!norwegian11:38
ubotusolan: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:38
solanis there a norwegian channel active?11:38
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Flosofthey11:43
cfraz89hi11:44
Flosoftanyone experience the problenm that Xorg crashes when I open the K-Menu and want to open an app?11:44
Flosofton Breezy11:44
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jpatrickccc_: oh11:45
waterglasshi, i've got a quick question on proftpd.. i installed it using the ubuntu guide, but how do i create users for the ftp? so people can log in with a username and password11:45
ccc_jpatrick: i was wrong too, it was danish. but no and dk are hard to separate in written form :)11:46
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[nige] Hi all,11:48
[nige] I am having problems with myplayer plugin11:49
[nige] I can compile it but when I try and install it,I get the following error : http://pastebin.com/67490011:49
[nige] anyone maybe able to help?11:49
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davidhousehi guys. having big troubles configuring my local wireless network connection on my kubuntu laptop. KWifiManager thinks it's connected to the network, but i still have an empty routing table and obviously all outgoing requests fail.11:51
davidhousei'm meant to be connected to my router which has IP 192.168.1.100, but pinging that fails. also, KWifiManager says "Local IP: unavailable", so i don't think it's connected properly.11:51
cfraz89davidhouse: i wouldnt use kwifimanager11:52
cfraz89try wlassistant11:52
cfraz89or if you are using dapper11:52
cfraz89knetworkmanager11:52
davidhousecfraz89, can i install those w/o being connected to the internet?11:52
cfraz89no sorry11:52
cfraz89hmm11:52
davidhouseeven plugging in an ethernet cable didn't work.11:53
cfraz89try running dhclient eth*11:53
cfraz89that should get it connected if everything is right on the wifi side11:53
davidhousewoo! :)11:54
davidhousewhat did that do?11:54
davidhousedo i need to run it every time i turn my laptop on?11:54
cfraz89gets an ip from the dhcp server11:54
cfraz89well you can configure it to bring up network card on computer on11:55
Flosoftcfraz89: I have the same problem with my wifi card ... I want it to get an IP automatically on connect11:55
cfraz89ok11:55
FlosoftI use wifi-radar11:55
Flosoftbut i'll try wlassistant11:55
cfraz89in /etc/network/interfaces11:55
cfraz89put11:55
cfraz89auto eth011:55
cfraz89iface eth0 inet dhcp11:55
Flosoftwell mine is wlan011:56
cfraz89ok11:56
cfraz89yeah replace eth0 with your device11:56
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cfraz89that wont count for wep or anything though11:56
Flosoftso if it uses WEP or WPA it doesn't work?11:57
cfraz89you can11:57
cfraz89theres more to it11:57
cfraz89if you want i can fetch it from my other computer11:57
cfraz89wont be long11:57
Flosoftsure11:57
dmhouse|laptopthat would be appreciated :)11:57
Flosoftthat would be great :)11:57
dmhouse|laptopin the mean time i'll get firefox and emacs installed, so i can survive.11:58
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cfraz89zeroconf is so cool11:59
Flosoftzerocong?11:59
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Flosoft*zeroconf?11:59
cfraz89zeroconf11:59
Flosoftwhats that?12:00
cfraz89it is a way to publish services on a network12:00
Flosoftah12:00
cfraz89so i share a directory from my other computer12:00
cfraz89and on my laptop it shows up as www servers12:00
dmhouse|laptopis there a list of package repos i should add?12:00
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cfraz89universe and multiverse are good ones12:01
cfraz89ok :)12:01
cfraz89http://home.exetel.com.au/cfraz89/interfaces12:01
cfraz89is for my wireless network12:02
cfraz89if anyone wants to hack it lol it has my wep key in it :)12:02
Flosoftah nice thanks12:02
cfraz89the ra0 bit shows how to use wep on login :)12:02
Flosoftnot for the wep key .p12:02
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dmhouse|laptopcfraz89: hmm, that's the same as my file.12:03
cfraz89really?12:03
cfraz89it doesnt work on login?12:03
cfraz89i mean boot?12:03
dmhouse|laptopwell, mine is eth0 and doesn't have a wireless-channel, but yeah.12:03
cfraz89do you have an rt2500 by any chance?12:04
dmhouse|laptopnope.12:04
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Flosoftcfraz89: Can it also then connect to hidden SSIDs?12:04
cfraz89yes12:04
cfraz89if you specify the ssid12:04
Flosoftand will the client wlassistant show the connection status?12:04
dmhouse|laptopmine also says "wireless-key1 s:whatever"12:04
cfraz89i think so12:04
cfraz89dont use s:12:04
cfraz89doesnt work12:04
cfraz89i tried it12:04
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cfraz89i had to use the actual key12:04
cfraz89dmhouse, are you using dapper?12:05
cfraz89Flosoft, it does show connection status12:05
cfraz89if using dapper knetworkmanager is good12:05
dmhouse|laptopcfraz89: well, mine is not a hex key12:05
cfraz89it works with passphrases and connects on login12:05
dmhouse|laptopso the s: prefix is correct, i think12:05
cfraz89it doesnt work12:05
cfraz89i use a passphrase too12:05
dmhouse|laptophmm.12:06
cfraz89the passphrase just generates a key12:06
cfraz89when i used s:<passphrase>12:06
cfraz89it generated the wrong key to use12:06
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cfraz89so i had to dig up the actual genereted key and put it in12:06
cfraz89theres websites that can show you the hex key12:06
cfraz89http://www.powerdog.com/wepkey.cgi12:07
cfraz89put in your passphrase, it will show you the key to use12:07
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duffhi people. got a small question..  got this external drive, formatted a reiser partition, and have my movie collector files (its a windows prog im using with wine).  ive made the file that holds my collection +x so i can open it directly into the app, but everytime i open it and close the app the perms reset the +x to -x .    what can i do ?12:09
dmhouse|laptopcfraz89: it gives me five keys. how do i know which one to use?12:09
cfraz89usually the first one12:09
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cfraz89are using 128bit or 64bit?12:09
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smlif I want to set-up my wireless network settings manually, which file do i modify?12:10
dmhouse|laptopcfraz89: heh, of course :) i think i'm on 128-bit WEP.12:10
cfraz89ok12:10
dmhouse|laptopsml, /etc/network/interfaces perhaps12:11
cfraz89for me the 128 bit key was right12:11
Flosoftto let WPA run is more difficult no?12:11
dmhouse|laptopyeah.12:11
dmhouse|laptopi'll have a go.12:11
smldmhouse ... cool thanks :)12:11
cfraz89knetworkmanager does wpa easy12:11
dmhouse|laptopsml, hey, thank cfraz89. i didn't know before about 10 minutes ago :)12:11
Flosoftalso with ndiswrapper cardss :S?12:11
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cfraz89lol sorry12:11
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Flosoftas I use the DLINK DWL-G520M (Mimo card) not officially supported by linux?12:12
cfraz89Flosoft: i think so12:12
smldmhouse .. would you be able to post a couple of lines from your 'interfaces file'?12:12
cfraz89it uses wpa_supplicant in backend12:12
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dmhouse|laptopsml, sure12:12
smljust to understand the config a bit :)12:12
smlta12:12
dmhouse|laptop(although it would be easier to use a program to do this)12:12
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cfraz89Flosoft: give it a go after you get to dapper12:13
smldmhouse ... errr ... yes but I am using xubuntu12:13
smli could always install live kubuntu and take a peek i guess :)12:13
dmhouse|laptopsml, http://pastebin.com/67491712:14
dmhouse|laptopsml, however, mine isn't completely working12:14
dmhouse|laptopyou might want to try cfraz89's at http://home.exetel.com.au/cfraz89/interfaces12:14
smlhey thanks .. i wasn't expecting the format to be quite like that !12:15
smlok .. time for a reboot to see if it works :)12:17
smlhopefully i'll see you soon12:17
cfraz89okie12:17
cfraz89good luck12:17
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dmhouse|laptopcfraz89: i've got to dash but i just wanted to thank you for being so unbelievably helpful :)12:19
cfraz89lol np12:19
dmhouse|laptopcheers.12:19
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[nige] anyone have a firefox 1.0.5 repository?12:23
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asranielhi, how can i change the dpi setting for kde? thanks12:43
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_adminhi everyone12:45
cfraz89asraniel: make a file in your home called .Xresources12:46
cfraz89and paste into it:12:46
cfraz89Xft.dpi:9612:46
_admindoy you know if I can use gnome icon themes with kde?12:46
cfraz89not easily i think12:46
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cfraz89asraniel: or whatever dpi you want to set to12:46
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asranielcfraz89: thank you, going to test that :-)12:47
carsten_admin: there is work on the way to make this possible: tango and portland12:47
cfraz89np12:47
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asranielworks perfect :-D great, normal fonts again12:49
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cfraz89cool12:49
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_admincarsten: I heard about tango, but not portland12:51
_adminanyway, by the moment I just want gnome look icon theme, the default one or the industrial one for kde12:51
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Flosofthey12:59
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FlosoftI installed wlassistant ... but does it support wpa?01:01
alef0Kubuntu Espresso seems to have some grave bugs. I crashes when the partitioner starts, and some people have lost their parition table in the process (seems I was lucky, it just didn't work on both of my computers): https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/espresso/+bug/40555 <-- maybe this should be in the /topic?01:03
UbugtuMalone bug 40555 in Ubuntu "Kubuntu Expresso = Whiping Partition Table" [Normal,Unconfirmed] 01:03
alef0wow ^^01:03
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carstenboy, that is a critical bug!01:04
FlosoftKnetworkmanager doesn't work ... it says it isn't running01:05
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vandenoeverhello, how is acpi support on kubuntu (dapper beta) these days? i read some reports that it was better on ubuntu01:18
vandenoeverbut i prefer kde01:18
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FlosoftKnetworkmanager doesn't work ... it says it isn't running ... what can I do?01:21
nagyvvandenoever: I think it depends on your laptop. I use an asus, and its acpi is a piece of shit. But I don't know how it would work under ubuntu.01:21
vandenoeveri've read reports that acpi on my laptop (dell x1) should be good01:22
vandenoeverfor ubuntu01:22
vandenoeveri'll just try it i guess01:22
Tm_Tpappua: ping01:22
buzapropos laptop, is anyone using kubuntu on a toshiba laptop?01:23
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buzi can get everything but the acpi to work01:23
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Tm_Tpappua: poke me when you're around, and I'll help youwith kde4/qt4 issue ;)01:26
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Flosofthey ... how can I enable automatic get DHCP adress with Wireless Assistant when I connect01:42
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candybanHi guys02:02
Flosofthey02:02
Flosofthow can I enable automatic get DHCP adress with Wireless Assistant when I connect02:02
candybanDoes anyone know some (english) documentation how to get kubuntu working with xgl ?02:03
candybanUsing dapper drake02:03
bimberi!xgl02:03
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/02:03
candybanubotu: Thanks :)02:04
ubotucandyban: gern geschehen02:04
candybanubotu: Vielen dank ;)02:04
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, candyban02:04
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candybanbimberi: Apprearently it was you ... Thanks :)02:12
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Ilokaaaasuwhen i use svideo to watch videos from tv the videoscreen is only blue, how to fix this ?02:15
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Anonymusiushi02:21
Flosofthi02:21
AnonymusiusDo you have an good .exe executer for kubuntu02:22
AnonymusiusFor gamemaker02:22
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Flosoftwine? wineX  ...02:23
Anonymusiusthx02:23
Flosoftwinex is now cedega02:23
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Anonymusiusis it free?02:25
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Skrot!winex02:25
ubotuSkrot: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:25
Flosoftno02:26
Flosoftbut there's a free trial02:26
AnonymusiusCan you use directx in that trial?02:26
Flosoftyes afaik02:26
Anonymusiusbecause Gamemaker uses that02:26
Flosoftit is made for gaming02:26
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ubuntu_hy all, had anyone tried to install kubuntu daper from the live cd? the window of the installer sudnly disapear at step 5?anyone can help me?02:37
freeflying-ibookubuntu_: it's known02:37
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vandenoeverfreeflying-ibook: so one shouldn't/can't install kubuntu dapper beta from the live cd?02:49
vandenoevermight as well stop downloading then02:49
ubuntu_y have the same prob02:50
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freeflying-ibookvandenoever: you can use the livecd besides install it02:50
vandenoeverfreeflying-ibook: i wanted to evaluate acpi functionality02:51
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freeflying-ibookvandenoever: livecdd can not work ?02:51
vandenoeverwell, can the livecd suspend to disk?02:52
freeflying-ibookvandenoever: may not02:52
vandenoeveri would hope i does not, because it would have to write to disk for that02:53
vandenoeverand it might overwrite another suspended state02:53
vandenoeverso, i'll test plain ubuntu then02:53
vandenoevercan i add kde after installing plain ubuntu easily?02:54
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ubuntu_y have a process called partman _newlayo that's eating all of mi system resource , what is it ? if y kill him it will reapear with anouther pid03:05
Vge!mp303:06
Glin|JolWinamp  5.20 Stopped03:06
ubotuhmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:06
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Flosofthow can I enable automatic get DHCP adress with Wireless Assistant when I connect03:07
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Flosofthow do I reconfigure KDE?03:23
Flosoftwell X03:24
Flosoftas it says $DISPLAY not set03:24
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_bbeckFlosoft: to reconfigure the x server use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:29
Vge i just noticed that my integraded speakers on hp laptop nx6110 dont work in dapper, any advice?03:29
Flosoftthx _bbeck03:31
Flosofthow can I set $DISPLAY ?03:33
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_bbeckFlosoft: I don't know if this is what you're looking for, but you can set a shell variable by simply typing DISPLAY=value.  When I echo the DISPLAY variable on my computer I get :0.003:37
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justanotheruserwhen updating a svn version of an app, is it recommended to "make uninstall" first?04:00
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apokryphosjustanotheruser: it's a good idea I'd say, yes.04:02
justanotheruserthanks :)04:03
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bretzelHi there04:05
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davidhousewho chose the colour scheme for ubuntu-emacs?04:28
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GameOver69hey guys can anyone help me get my ati radieon 7500 work for 3d acceleration?04:44
zambbadoes 3d acceleration work with that card :f04:45
zambbaI have one also04:45
GameOver69ive seen testimonials of it working04:45
GameOver69but no one really ever said how :(04:45
GameOver69ive tried message boards but no one was of any help04:45
SkrotIs it supported by the official ati driver?04:45
GameOver69no they are only 8500 +04:46
Skrotah, radeon is old?04:46
Skroterr, 7500 is old04:46
GameOver69yeah a few years04:46
SkrotIn that case you should probably use DRI04:46
GameOver69yes i read that04:46
GameOver69and installed it yesterday but still it doesnt work04:46
SkrotThe driver is most likely in xserver-xorg-driver-ati04:46
SkrotThat might just be dapper though04:47
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GameOver69i have dapper04:47
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Skrotah, installed that package?04:47
GameOver69that was installed already04:47
SkrotOkay. What does the driver section of your graphics device in /etc/X11/xorg.conf say?04:48
SkrotIt should probably be radeon or something04:48
GameOver69ok hold on04:49
GameOver69let me check04:49
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GameOver69http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/67518104:50
GameOver69there check it out04:50
Skrothmm.. that seems sane04:51
Skrotglxinfo | grep -i "direct redering" says no?04:51
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GameOver69doesnt say anything when i type that in04:52
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kiasuhow do i use a file with ".exe"04:53
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kiasuhow do i use a file with ".exe"04:53
kiasuhow do i use a file with ".exe"04:54
jpatrickkiasu: ./filename.exe04:54
jpatrickand don't repeat a question04:54
GameOver69so what can i do Skro04:54
GameOver69Skrot,04:54
kiasuwhat do you mean by /file04:55
jpatrickin the konsole do: ./filename.exe04:55
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jpatrickKiasu: in the konsole do: ./filename.exe04:56
SkrotGameOver69: Typo. Try glxinfo | grep -i "direct rendering"04:56
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GameOver69yea it says NO04:57
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fyrmedic004:58
SkrotGameOver69: okay.. hm.. check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for (WW)'s and (EE)'s04:58
SkrotOr just make a pastebin thingy04:58
zambbaHow can I install video4linux to breezy ?04:58
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duffwhat is that.04:59
GameOver69Skrot, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/67519804:59
_danielehi04:59
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SkrotGameOver69: Weird. Try asking in #dri - they ought to have a clue05:01
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GameOver69ugh there is barely anyone in there05:02
OdyXGameOver69: not exactly true.05:04
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duffcan anyone tell me how to fix this small annoyance.  I have this external partition i formatted on install as reiserfs, and ive copied my Movie Collector collection to it, and made the main file executable so i can run it directly and have it open in movie collector, except, it loses the "x" attrib after ive closed M.C05:05
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duffim guessing there are some fstab options i need to set maybe, but im not up on them..05:05
GameOver69OdyX, y not05:05
UziMonkeyduff: "defaults" includes noexec I think05:06
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UziMonkeyduff: try adding "exec" to the options string and remounting05:06
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GameOver69OdyX, what is not true05:06
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OdyXGameOver69: that there's nobody... :D05:06
duffahhhh05:06
duffthat`ll be it, thanks.05:06
duffkeeping defaults ?05:07
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GameOver69OdyX, ok no one to help!05:07
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OdyXGameOver69: what's your problem ?05:07
OdyXwacom-related ?05:07
erofeehi all05:08
OdyXhi erofee05:08
GameOver69i cant get 3d accelration05:08
GameOver69with my ati radeon mobility 7500 card05:08
OdyXGameOver69: type of card05:08
OdyX?05:08
OdyXOK05:08
kiasujpatrick05:08
OdyXHum. Installled with repos ?05:08
kiasuthe way u teach cannot work05:08
erofeequick question, can anyone tell me how to change my info when i quit konversation, ie change "Konversation Terminated" to something else?05:09
OdyXGameOver69: Try to run a $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:09
GameOver69OdyX, did that already05:09
duffgameover, there is a good guide to installin latest ati driver on ubuntuforums.05:09
OdyXGameOver69: not working then ?05:09
GameOver69OdyX, i mean it must work because the 3d graphics work but its slow as shit05:09
duffworked for me and my 980005:09
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jpatrickkiasu: right05:09
OdyXduff: can you take relay ? I have nvidia... :D05:09
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kiasuright?05:10
GameOver69OdyX, damn you and youru nvidia05:10
duffoops..05:10
GameOver69:)05:10
OdyXGameOver69: ;-)05:10
erofeeanyone?05:10
GameOver69so what can i do... i know it can work ive read testimonials05:10
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jpatrickkiasu: open the konsole and type that command05:11
kiasuright?05:11
kiasuok05:11
kiasuer...........05:11
kiasuwhich command?05:11
jpatrick ./filename.exe05:11
duffGameOver69: try http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide05:12
duffbreezy guide, method 205:12
duffworked a treat for me...05:12
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kiasunope05:12
kiasuit can't work05:12
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jpatrickno error?05:13
GameOver69duff do u know if that will work for my card05:13
duffdunno but i have a mobility 980005:13
kiasuNo such file or directory05:13
duffi dont see why it wouldnt.05:13
jpatrickkiasu: where's the .exe stored?05:14
kiasuthats what it was stated05:14
duffis ./filename.exe made executable?05:14
duffis it a windows exe ?05:14
kiasuexecutable?05:14
kiasuyes05:14
GameOver69i have dapper05:15
kiasuyes it is executable05:15
duffoh, well the dapper guide then05:15
duffi prefer tried and tested breezy05:16
duffsince im using it now 24/705:16
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duffi dont want any more headaches than i already have, ;)05:16
GameOver69i love dapper05:17
GameOver69such a step up05:17
duffu think breezy will upgrade to dapper ok with all my apps ive installed and tweaks ive made? or will it be more hassle tryin to reinstall the ati driver and redo the service tweaks and other stuff..05:18
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GameOver69no should work fine05:20
GameOver69i had no problems when i upgraded05:20
GameOver69tweaks and everything were good to go05:20
duffwhat about ati driver?  and vmware, that were built using older kernel.05:20
duffthey`ll need fixing surely.05:20
GameOver69im sure05:21
GameOver69and that wiki u sent me to doesnt apply to my card05:21
GameOver69i checked.... under hardware supported05:21
duffwhat card05:21
GameOver69ati radeon 7500 mobility05:21
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SkrotHow about http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_DRI_with_ATi_Open-Source_Drivers ?05:22
dufftry it anyway05:22
duffnever know.05:22
duffwith latest05:22
SkrotIt's gentoo though05:23
GameOver69gentoo is bad?05:23
GameOver69or thats a distro05:23
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cycus_zwisusgentoo is bad because it's harder than windows05:33
cycus_zwisusubuntu is easier so it's good :)05:34
niekieHaha.05:34
niekieI haven't really tried Gentoo, so I don't know, but yeah, Ubuntu is quite easy :)05:34
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_harmcan i have xgl desktop with kubuntu or is it a difrent GUI?05:36
buz_harm: yes you can have kubuntu with xgl05:37
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OdyX_harm: AFAIK, it is possible, but not so stable.05:37
OdyXAnyone using ktorrent here ?05:37
buz(you might have to install gdm)05:37
_harmOdyX i use Ktorrent05:37
OdyX_harm: under Dapper ?05:37
_harmOdyx how 'no so stable' is it?05:37
_harmOdyx no under 5.1005:38
buzunder 5.10 it wont work05:38
OdyX_harm: so you have 1.1 of Ktorrent, uh ?05:38
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_harmOdyx lemme heck my version05:39
OdyX_harm: nowadays, it is very stable (Beta release is good), just sometimes have to wait one day for packages correction (broken, but no crash)05:39
_harmOdyx i have Ktorrent 1.005:39
OdyXniekie: don't you find it a lot slower and memory consuming as 1.1. ?05:39
OdyXs/as/than05:40
_harmOdyx but glx is only under dapper?05:40
duffanyone have problems with vmware in kubuntu breezy, its lockin my whole machine in middle of  the Xp guest is booting05:40
OdyX_harm: No... not at all...05:40
OdyXGLX is just the framework for 3D....05:40
niekieOdyX, I wouldn't know, haven't used it yet for downloading any torrents because I had no need for downloading torrents yet after upgrading to Dapper.05:40
niekieSorry.05:40
OdyXniekie: OK. Thanks though05:40
_harmOdyx ah ok.. iam trying to learn :P but ok ill check wiki or something05:41
OdyX_harm: or try that command: echo '16i[q] sa[ln0=aln100%Pln100/snlbx] sbA0D4D465452snlbxq'|dc05:42
_harmOdyx :D wow what will that do?05:43
OdyXnothing dangerous....05:43
OdyXtry it.05:44
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_harmOdyx uh ok :P05:44
OdyX_harm: you see.. nothing dangerous05:44
_harmI was reading the manual ;)05:44
OdyX_harm: OK ...05:44
OdyXsorry then05:44
_harmbut yah thats a nice one05:44
_harmi feel really owned :X05:45
_harmbrb iam going to reboot05:45
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atticstormDoes anyone know how to change X11 to a finer dpi to like 100?05:51
buzatticstorm: X -dpi XY05:52
duffedit /etc/kde3/kdmrc  find the line with ServerArgsLocal and add -dpi 100 after the =05:52
duffmust be directly after it.05:52
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duffdid you mean kde , assumed you did05:53
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everthello , i need help pls ! I started my pc (with kubuntu 64) like always , but at once , my home map (evert) is emtpy except desktop :O who can help me pls ?05:56
david___is it possible to change the busy cursor icon from the application icon to just a plain busy icon?05:57
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everthello ?05:58
vandenoeverevert: did you install /home on a separate paritition?05:59
arrinmurrdavid___: well, you can find the possibilities in kcontrol -> appearance & themes -> Launch Feedback -> Busy Cursor05:59
evertnope , it's on my 'linux hard disk' (hda)05:59
david___arrinmurr: I looked there but it appears to only let you use the application icon for the busy cursor...thank you for the suggestion though06:01
atticstormThanks, my line now says 'ServerArgsLocal=-dpi 100-nolisten tcp', is that correct?06:01
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arrinmurrdavid___: yeah, it seems to be that way, by default anyway. have you tried to ask in #kde ?06:03
_harmi tried running Counterstrike through wine, but it keeps fucking up.. i ave two logs. Can someone help me?06:03
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atticstormduff: my line now reads 'ServerArgsLocal=-dpi 100-nolisten tcp' is that correct?06:03
evert hello , i need help pls ! I started my pc (with kubuntu 64) like always , but at once , my home map (evert) is emtpy except desktop :O who can help me pls ?06:05
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mathiasbritodo you have more than one partition!?06:06
mathiasbritoevert ?06:06
evertyes , i have a linux partition (on a hard disk only for linux) and an (ntfs) hard disk with one partition for windows06:07
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evertand of course swap partition (on linux hard disk)06:07
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mathiasbritoyou just restart the pc and get it!?06:08
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evertidd , booted my kubuntu 64 and i was looking for a new kde theme , so i downloaded it ... i wanted to unpack it (opened konqueror) and my home/evert/ was empty ? :(06:09
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mathiasbritosounds crazy!06:10
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evertyeah it's crazy but not funny (all my music , school documents , programming files (cpp) , films , ...)06:11
mathiasbritoi can see a reason!06:11
evertno fun at all06:11
evertwhat's the reason ? (all the hidden files like .gimp etc , are still in /home/evert/)06:11
mathiasbritoyeah it already happen to me06:11
everttell the solution pls :D06:12
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mathiasbritoi cannot see the solution...06:12
mathiasbritoi recommend you to look for a recovery tool...06:12
buzsolution usually involves that thing called "backup"06:12
mathiasbritodont write anything in your hard disk06:12
evertdo you know a recovery tool for linux ?06:12
mathiasbritothere is lot of them06:13
mathiasbritomost is not free06:13
evertmy linux install is quite new , so i didn't have a backup (i tought i would stay with windows, but i'm using linux more :P)06:13
brodelyou just want to recover the data?06:13
evertyes , that would be fine06:13
brodelI use knoppix for that.06:13
atticstormbuz did not understand help comment, duff, thank you did as suggested.06:13
mathiasbritomaybe you moved your folders accidentaly06:14
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evertgood idea , i do a search for a file , hopefully it's moved to somewhere (accidentily)06:15
buzcan anyoen comment on hibernate vs nvidia drivers'06:15
buzany chance to get it working?06:15
mathiasbritosorry my bad english! :P06:16
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uroshi all! started testing out KDE, but not sure if ready for switch from gnome - will move slowly - question: am i able to use the same mail files as evolution - that is to say that i would use some KDE programme for mails and store in/out mails in evolution files?06:18
evertok now i need your help guys , i found everything in a wrong map :p06:18
everteverything is in this map : /home/evert/.mozilla-1.5/firefox/651nt9om.default/  , how can i get it back to /home/evert ?06:18
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evert(i think i failed somewhere installing firefox )06:18
uros...after i read what i wrote i couldn't understand it - i would like to use evolution in gnome and some kmail in KDE and have both synchronised06:18
buzuros: imap is the easiest solution for that06:19
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urosbuz: thanks will look into that06:19
mathiasbritoevert: simple move it back06:20
everti'm just copying everything06:21
evertthanks for your help , i was really scared i had lost everything06:21
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urosone more thing -amarok gives me problems with /dev/dsp being used after i use skype and even end call - it only releases it after restarting skype (and then works until next call)06:27
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morrowhmmmm acpi_fakekey seems to ignore the sleep button06:29
morrowwhat should this actualy do? run another acpid event?06:29
buzmost likely ACPI suspend to ram is not active on your machine06:30
morrowit is... :)06:30
buzdoes it work?06:30
morrowdoing it manualy works06:31
buzthat's weird06:31
buzin my case it kept crashing my machine ;)06:31
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morrowwell.. now i have sleep.sh as event06:33
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buzthis is weird06:34
buzsuspend to ram works in single user06:34
buzbut nowhere else06:34
morrowprobably video card problems?06:34
buzyes06:34
buzbut it doesnt make sense does it?06:35
buzid understand if it didnt work under x06:35
morrowX was always a pain for acpi :)06:35
buzbut it doesnt work on the console either06:35
morrowohh06:35
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morrowbuz: maybe a problem with the NIC?06:35
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morrowtried to unload it before?06:35
buzhibernate should do so automatically i believe06:36
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justanotheruseram i lucky and does anyone of you know a debian location for mediaportal?06:36
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GentixI get mono sound with my soundblaster card (emu10k1) This happend after I dist-uograded to dapper. How can I fix this?06:44
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linomanallo there06:44
GentixI get mono sound with my soundblaster card (emu10k1) This happend after I dist-uograded to dapper. How can I fix this?06:44
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Emesshi, im trying to isntall onto an old box, but its trying to boot into a previous isntallation of mandrake with grub, is there a command to make grub boot from the cd?06:55
_arthurba cd should boot before grub06:56
_arthurbyou want to fix the boot sequence order in the bios06:56
_arthurband make sure cdrom precedes hard drive06:57
Emesscant, the box has NO boot parameters int eh bios, its really old06:57
_arthurbif it's very old it might not be able to boot from cd06:57
justanotherusermy father wants to record from a "big black disc" (i don't know the name, hehe) and burn that on a disc. Is there a tool for this?06:57
_arthurba Vynil ?06:57
Emessno, it can boot from cd, provided there isnt a hdd in it06:57
justanotheruservynil, yes :)06:57
_arthurbEmess: you need a boot floppy then06:58
Emessjustanotheruser: if you can plug your record player into your computer then jsut record06:58
Emessyeah, i dont know how to make one that grub can understand06:58
_arthurbjustanotheruser: you need a good sound card for that06:58
_arthurbEmess: no need06:59
_arthurbonce you're in grub it's too late06:59
Emessnot really, you jsut need one with line in06:59
Emessoh, grub has an option 'boot from floppy"06:59
_arthurbdepends06:59
Emessanyway, could you please explain how to make a boot floppy?06:59
_arthurbof course all have line in06:59
_arthurbbut how do they sample it ?06:59
_arthurbwhat bandwith ? what dynamic range ?07:00
justanotheruser_arthurb: i only have onboard sound from my asus a8n deluxe, it has an line in though. Would this be enough?07:00
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Emessjustanotheruser: if you have a record player that it can connect to then yes07:00
_arthurbwell you can always do it and see if you're pleased with the quality07:00
_arthurbwhat I mean is if you want to back up your precious records you might want to give some thought in the quality of  the numerizing device in the first place07:01
_arthurbsure you'll get a sound anyway but ur07:01
justanotheruserEmess and all: thanks, i'll try some with audacity :)07:02
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rohanpradeepto: we meet again07:10
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Emessso uh, how do i make a boot floppy that tells it to go to cd?07:18
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angasulein kaffeine, I want to assign the same key to 'play' and 'pause', but it won't allow that... why not? doesn't seem like they would conflict, maybe it's a KDE shortcut thing (since it seems to be a standard component)07:20
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urosi have an icon theme .tar file which i can't install will drag and drop ("not valid theme"), in it are several folders with icons and a buildset script. how do i install this?07:25
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davixthe kubuntu sound system is awful.07:34
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angasuledavix: why? it said bad words?07:35
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ice_1963hello07:36
MgrVlnwhere can i find the Xmodmap so i can change some keyboard commands?07:37
davixangasule, no it just dosen't work as it should have07:37
angasuledavix: how so?07:38
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davixangasule, it always losses sync with the actuall soundcard07:41
angasuleoh, hmm07:41
duffhow do i stop the sidebar appearing everytime i open Kate07:42
DeadS0ul1`i don't think yo ucan07:42
duffive done it b4, just cant remember how...  ive saved sessions and window settings...07:43
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dantheman25anyone know if they are planning in putting XGL in dapper? or will it wait till edgy?07:45
_adminhi everyone07:45
_adminI need help07:45
duffwoo, done it.07:45
_adminmy kubuntu workstation doesnt reach the internet07:46
_adminI am writting from a kubuntu laptop07:46
_adminI have both machines configured the same07:46
dantheman25_admin wireless or wired?07:46
DeadS0ul1`_admin: two network cards? wifi and wired?07:46
_adminwired07:46
_admindifferent ips of course07:46
_adminthis has never happened to me before with linux!07:47
_adminI had changed wires with the laptop07:47
DeadS0ul1`=|07:47
DeadS0ul1`i never learned how to manage two network cards on linux07:47
_adminI have switched on dhcp server on the adsl router07:47
OdyX_admin: Try to reboot.. Sometimes the detection is inversed (check in SystemSettings):07:48
_adminand I cant reach the gateway07:48
_adminI will reboot for twice07:48
_adminthe first wrong message I get is that I can't sync with the time server07:49
_adminhey guys, should I use the recovery mode?07:49
uniq_admin: no, is the network card detected?07:49
dantheman25naa recovery mode just throws you to konsole before x starts07:49
_adminyes07:49
uniqif you run 'ifconfig -a' is it there?07:50
_adminone sec07:50
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_adminwaiting for network interface to come up07:50
uniqbooting?07:50
_admineth0: link up, 100mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x4DE107:51
_adminuniq: yes still booting in recovery mode07:51
_adminit has stopped at NET: Registerd protocol family 1707:51
uniqbooting in recovery mode won't help you very much.07:51
_adminthen goes again07:51
_adminifconfig -a shows the eth007:52
uniqok. good. then it's detected, and you have a link.07:52
_adminyep07:52
uniqi guess it's also setup to use dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces ?07:52
_adminuniq: I'll go and check07:52
uniqyou should have a line like this: 'iface eth0 inet dhcp'07:53
uniqand a line 'auto eth0'07:53
_adminI can see it07:53
_adminnop07:53
uroshow do i find out which programme is using /dev/dsp anyway?07:53
_adminauto eth0 is not there07:53
uniquros: fuser -v /dev/dsp07:53
urosuniq tnx07:53
_adminshould I write it?07:53
uniq_admin: ok, auto is to automatically start the interface at boot.07:54
uniqstart/bring up.07:54
uniqIf you want it to be brought up during boot you can add 'auto eth0'07:54
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_admindone07:54
uniqnow, 'ifup eth0'07:55
_adminit says ifup: interface eth0 already configured07:55
_adminI'm going down07:55
uniq'ifdown eth0' and try 'ifup eth0' again.07:56
_adminDHCPDISCOVER is trying intervals07:56
_adminbut nothing07:56
_adminNo DHCPOFFERS received, sleeping07:57
_adminmmm07:57
_adminI will change back to static ip07:57
uniqdoes the dhcp-server work properly?07:57
_adminit used to07:57
_adminis a linksys adsl router07:58
_adminI am going static07:58
uniqok.07:58
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uniqare you familiar with /etc/network/interfaces for static ips?07:58
_adminyes, I am copyin this laptop parameters07:59
uniqok :)07:59
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ice_1963ok i need to setup a firewall i have two computers and isp is comcast cable what is the best why?08:02
uniqice_1963: i recommend using guarddog. The package name is 'guarddog' in adept/apt-get.08:04
_adminuniq: nothing08:05
_adminI setup up static ip08:05
_adminand when I ping my gateway it seays Destination host unreachable08:05
uniqcheck the cable.08:05
ice_1963uniq: guarddog work's with iptables right?08:06
_adminwhen I plugged out the cable the console said: linkdown08:06
DeadS0ul1`did you make sure you have auto eth0 in your /etc/network/interfaces08:07
_adminice_1963: yes,nobody uses ipchains this days, go for guarddog is very easy although very configurable08:07
_adminchecking one more time08:07
ice_1963uniq: ok t-u08:08
uniqice_1963: yes, guarddog works with iptables and like _admin says, it's very configurable and easy.08:08
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ice_1963ok08:08
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n3stormuniq: it,s me08:10
n3stormmy gateway is unreachable08:10
n3stormrebooting again08:10
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n3stormarg!08:13
n3stormI will have to reinstall ubuntu again?08:13
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n3stormntp: temporary failuer i name resolution08:13
DeadS0ul1`dang08:13
n3stormDeadS0ul1`: thanks for your empathy! ;)08:14
DeadS0ul1`i dont' think you have to install though08:15
DeadS0ul1`what's ifconfig say?08:15
n3stormboth interfaces are there with ifconfig08:16
n3stormlo and eth008:16
kismetwhat's a good partition program i can move my swap partition with?08:16
DeadS0ul1`can you paste it?08:16
n3stormI can write it for you08:16
DeadS0ul1`go for it08:16
n3stormeth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00..whathever08:17
DeadS0ul1`what obut mtu and...ip address?08:18
ice_1963ubuntu a lot of work on linux and it install's so EASY t-u kubuntu :)08:18
n3storminet addr:192.168.1.22 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.008:18
n3stormUP BORADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:108:18
n3stormI haven't made any hardware changes08:19
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DeadS0ul1`meh seens fine08:19
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DeadS0ul1`try running sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart08:19
n3stormand this machine has worked perfectly with kubuntu and other linuxes08:19
n3stormok08:19
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kismeti'm looking to move my swap partition, any keywords or programs i should look for?08:20
DeadS0ul1`kismet: what do you mean move your swap parition?08:20
n3stormDeadS0ul1`: network not working08:21
DeadS0ul1`what bout when you type route?08:21
DeadS0ul1`is a default gateway set?08:21
n3stormyes08:21
kismetI've got a specifically seperate partition for use as a linux swap (pagefile, iirc), and i need to move it to allow another partition some space to grow08:22
n3stormDeadS0ul1`, uniq : can you read me?08:22
n3stormthe problem I think is about a cheap switch that is failing08:22
n3stormnetwork is working now08:23
DeadS0ul1`....hmmmm...what address are you pinging?08:23
n3stormgateway08:23
n3storm192.168.1.108:23
n3stormthanks very much DeadS0ul1`08:23
DeadS0ul1`do ou dual boot with that machine/08:23
n3stormnope since 199908:23
n3stormXD08:23
DeadS0ul1`hehe08:24
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n3stormbut I'm a desktop user08:24
kismetyes i do08:24
DeadS0ul1`i noticed when I let my windows computer hibernate..it fucks up next boot08:24
n3stormso I am not still that confident in networking skills08:24
DeadS0ul1`same here08:24
kismetDeadS0ul1`: how does it fuck up?08:24
DeadS0ul1`kismet: just won't work08:25
DeadS0ul1`a cold boot fixes it though08:26
kismeti'm running WinXP, Ubuntu and Debian on this system, and the hibernate works fine for me, except that i have GRUB as my boot manager, and have to pick the WinXP08:26
DeadS0ul1`hehehehe same here08:26
DeadS0ul1`used to have debian, changed to kubuntu08:26
kismeti'm pretty noob to linux, so i've got the debian as a sort of Learning OS08:27
DeadS0ul1`debian has a learning curve08:27
DeadS0ul1`you have to know the jargon and sorta know what you're doing08:27
DeadS0ul1`but once you do it's one of the best08:27
ice_1963kismet:that's one big hd lol08:28
DeadS0ul1`heh08:28
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kismetI can't figure a lot of stuff out with linux, though. like i'm not even clear if my swap partition gets used, or if it's only used by the Deb install? i don't know how to find out08:28
uniqn3storm: still no dice?08:28
DeadS0ul1`do you know what a page file is in windwos?08:28
kismetyes. and that's what swap is about, but i don't know how to find whether Kubuntu that i'm on right now is using it or not (the swap partition)08:29
buz  kismet: type mount in the console08:29
uniqkismet: dmesg |grep -i swap08:29
buzit should say if you have it active08:29
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DeadS0ul1`adn you can use df to find if it's being used08:30
uniqswap partitions are not mounted.08:30
uniqyou can't see swap with 'df' either.08:30
DeadS0ul1`ah damn08:30
uniqyou must use 'free'.08:30
DeadS0ul1`free08:31
kismetah, yes, free reports Swap of the exact size of the swap partition, so yes, it's using it.08:31
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uniqif you use 'dmesg|grep -i swap'08:31
uniqyou get something like: [   81.440154]  Adding 976544k swap on /dev/hda4.  Priority:-1 extents:1 across:976544k08:31
uniqwhich tells me that it's beeing used.08:32
uniqkismet: great :)08:32
kismetnow, how can i alter that partition's placement/size?08:32
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uniqyou can use 'gparted'.08:33
kismetWinXP Partition Magic wouldn't touch it, got errors08:33
kismetgparted it is08:34
uniqI should be recommending 'qtparted' for Kubuntu.08:34
kismetone other question, regarding GNOME/KDE, is a KApp different from a GApp only by the GUI library it uses or what? sorry, that's probably something i should wiki/google08:35
DeadS0ul1`pretty much08:35
DeadS0ul1`and the evoirnment too acutally08:36
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DeadS0ul1`one of the features KDE has are kios.. you can do fish:/ smb:/ etc in any kde app...08:36
DeadS0ul1`gnome uses something different. not sure how it works..08:36
kismethmm08:37
DeadS0ul1`buncha other things too08:37
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nochhey, i got a problem updating kubuntu08:38
uniqkismet: for qtparted/gparted it's just the GUI.08:38
nochi click on the icon on my taskbar that says i have updates available, but it wont let me download them08:39
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uniqi actually recommend the 'gparted' gui. it's more easily understandable imho. (read more similar to partition magic)08:39
kismeti'll get qtparted and see for myself =)08:39
uniqplease do :)08:40
kismetthanks for your pointers, i was getting nowhere on the web08:40
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nochanyone?08:41
uniqdo you get a error message?08:41
nochone sec . .08:41
soulfreshnerI installed dapper as a server then apt-get'ed kubuntu-desktop - the package manager (adept) doesn't want to work - it complains about the apt config not set up correctly08:42
soulfreshnerapt-get still works though...how do I fix adept?08:42
nochit says i may have an incorrect APT config and to run apt-setup and apt-get update . . . but when i run that it says command not found08:42
soulfreshnerhehe - seems like noch has the same problem as I do...08:43
nochlol08:44
noch=/08:44
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nochwell, good08:44
nochthis means im not dumb08:44
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soulfreshnerwell - it means that if you are, at least you have company :p08:44
nochole'!08:44
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soulfreshnerhere is the error in case someone is interested:08:46
uniqsoulfreshner & noch: how does your sources.list look like? Did you modify it in any way? Does 'apt-get update' finish without errors?08:46
soulfreshnerThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.08:46
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soulfreshneruniq - yep08:47
uniqsoulfreshner: try sudo dselect update08:47
soulfreshnerapt-get works fine08:47
nochno, i get a permission denied08:47
uniqnoch: 'sudo dselect update'08:48
soulfreshneruniq: sudo dselect update does the same as apt-get update (as far as I can tell)08:48
uniqnot entirely.08:48
uniqMerging available information08:49
uniqReplacing available packages info, using /var/cache/apt/available.08:49
uniqInformation about 19871 package(s) was updated.08:49
uniqthat's the difference.08:49
soulfreshneruniq - I spoke too soon:08:49
soulfreshnerE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)08:49
soulfreshnerE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?08:49
uniqah. something is using dpkg.08:49
DeadS0ul1`type in sudo -i08:49
uniqadept running?08:49
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DeadS0ul1`...meh adept08:50
nochi got the same result as soul, but mine says permission denied08:50
soulfreshneruniq - only adept_notifier and adep_installer is running08:50
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soulfreshnernoch - did you sudo apt-get?08:51
soulfreshnernoch: it needs to run as root...08:51
uniqsoulfreshner: try 'fuser -v /var/lib/dpkg/lock'08:51
uniqthat'll show you what process is using dpk.08:51
uniqdpkg.08:52
uniqto kill it you can use 'fuser -vk /var/lib/dpkg/lock'08:52
soulfreshneruniq: /var/lib/dpkg/lock:  root       5306 F.... adept_installer08:52
uniqthen try again.08:52
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uniqtry again with 'sudo dselect update'08:53
DeadS0ul1`i'm off..08:54
DeadS0ul1`g'nite08:54
uniqnite deads0ul1`.08:54
soulfreshneruniq - working now - I hope I don't need to do it every time I restart my pc... :(08:54
uniqsoulfreshner: no errors from adept?08:54
soulfreshnertaking a while to start08:55
soulfreshnernothing's happening yet08:55
soulfreshnerno errors, but my hdd light is flashing like mad08:55
soulfreshner...08:55
soulfreshnernope...sape problem08:56
soulfreshnersame even08:56
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soulfreshnerit doesn't start up fully, then when I try to start it again it gives the same error08:57
uniqhum. ok.08:57
soulfreshnerthat lock file is in use again bu adept installer...08:57
uniqi suspect adept_installer is hanging, and locking dpkg. try 'fuser -v /var/lib/dpkg/lock'08:57
uniqah.. as i suspected.08:58
soulfreshnerit looks like it is hanging - but what now?08:58
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uniqbrb.. 2 min. smoke. don't go anywhere.. we'll have to figure this out.08:58
soulfreshnercool08:58
soulfreshnerI'll have a smoke as well08:58
mornfallwhat are you doing08:59
soulfreshnerback in 7 mins08:59
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soulfreshnermornfall: adept packace manager is crashing08:59
mornfalljust when i get around to peek in08:59
mornfallyeah, but i am interested why08:59
mornfallbacktrace?08:59
mmport81Q: amarok suddenly says gstreamer isn't playing MP3s - how should i go about debugging??08:59
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dablitzhas anyone ever install nmm before09:00
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mornfallwell, when you find something out file a bugreport pls (wrt adept)09:01
duffhi,09:01
mornfalli can have a look then09:01
duffquestion about kmail09:01
n3stormhi again09:01
soulfreshnermornfall: there's no error messages or anything09:01
duffwhen replying, how do i get the cursor to start at the bottom, 2 spaces down..?09:01
n3stormhow comes I have a 77% paacket loss?09:01
mornfallsoulfreshner: gdb . <pid>09:01
mornfallsoulfreshner: thread apply all bt09:02
mornfallsoulfreshner: pastebin :)09:02
n3stormI'm still having trouble with the network09:02
n3stormI am directly connected to the ap know09:02
dablitzdoes anyone know how i get get wmv files to play09:02
mornfall(apt-get install gdb, eventually)09:02
soulfreshnerhehe - installing gdb now09:02
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mornfallmy bus leaves in 20 minutes or so IIRC... well, another in 40 so i may have a bit more time ;)09:03
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soulfreshnermornfall: where are you now?09:04
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mornfallgirlfriend's parents'09:04
n3stormso, uniq,should I install the whole stuff again?09:05
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soulfreshnerno debugging symbols found09:08
mornfallno matter09:08
mornfallthere should be some backtrace at least09:08
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mornfallhmm, i'll run to catch the bus, i'll be back in 2009:09
soulfreshnermornfall: this is all 0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()'09:09
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soulfreshnernothing else09:10
dablitzdoes anyone know how i get get wmv files to play09:10
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soulfreshnerdablitz - you need to install the win32 codecs09:10
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uniqn3storm: i don't think reinstalling would help you. I think it's the cable or some hardware. You can test with a livecd if you want to make sure it's not software related.09:12
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n3stormuniq: that's a good point09:12
n3stormI am at ubuntu channel09:13
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duffdamn09:16
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duff i just used krdc to vnc to a mates comp, and its slow as hell.09:16
duffcompared to ultra fast from within windows.09:16
duffwhats a decent vnc client for linux?09:17
kismetvnc?09:17
duffits deff the client, is fast from windows vnc client.09:17
duffi literally watch it paint the screen09:18
kismetvirtual network connection?09:18
duffno09:18
dufftried x11vnc, faster , but doesnt scroll (his screen is bigger than mine09:18
uniqduff: try xtightvncviewer.09:18
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slow-motionhallo09:22
dablitzany dapper users?09:22
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crimsundablitz: try #ubuntu+109:22
dablitzhthanks09:22
soulfreshnerI use dapper09:22
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dablitzsoulfreshner,  is there any issues with using kernel 2.6.16.5 at all09:23
knztuxbonsoir09:23
duffnope09:24
duffslow as hell09:24
ice_1963i use linux-image-2.6.15-1-k709:24
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soulfreshnerdablitz: I haven't found any kernel issues yet09:24
noteventimedablitz, I use dapper09:25
dablitzi know but mercurial needs 2.6.16 or better, and i loose my direct framebuffer every time i install it09:25
h3sp4wnIs there any reason why people use vnc instead of freenx ? - freenx is alot faster for me and less hassle09:25
duffkrdc and xtightviewer are tooo slow...09:26
duffany other suggestions.09:26
justanotheruserapt-get upgrade wants to upgrade my kopete, but i like to use the kopete svn version. Is there a way with apt-pinning to exclude kopete for being updated?09:26
duffsays client, v3.3 and server 3.809:26
duffthat prolly why09:26
h3sp4wnnxclient or metaframe09:26
duffwhy is vnc such hard work?09:26
h3sp4wnits alot less work than xdmcp09:27
knztuxsee U09:27
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duffhe`s a windows with vnc, im linux with vnc client.09:27
duffand its too slow for me.09:28
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duffits fine when im in windows using vnc client.09:28
dablitzi have tried every version of kubuntu, and dapper is my favourite, just i have issues with vanilla kernels09:28
h3sp4wnrdesktop used to be very fast (haven't tried it recently) but he would have to enable remote desktop connection09:28
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duffrdesktop is vnc as well09:28
duffive tried it, its slow09:29
soulfreshnerI still can't get adept to work09:29
soulfreshnermaybe I should try and install synaptic?09:29
h3sp4wnduff: are you on a poor connection ?09:29
duffno09:29
duffi just said, in windows its ok09:29
dufflinux, its slow09:29
duffme client, him server.09:29
ice_1963then install synaptic it will work :)09:29
uniqsoulfreshner: synaptic is more mature. What did gdb say?09:30
duffx11vncviewer is faster, more like windows speed, but the scroll bars dont work09:30
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h3sp4wnrdp is alot faster than vnc09:31
buzNX is much faster than VNC09:31
duffyes i know.. but he`s using vnc,  he/we can in windows,.  why cant we in linux.09:31
duffwell i can, with x11vncviewer, but,  scrollies09:31
uniqduff: did you try xtightvncviewer with some compression options and quality options?09:31
buzi never had an issue with vnc in linux myself09:31
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duffshouldnt have to, its high quality full screen in windows09:32
h3sp4wnI use NX (and think it does everything I need) but I don't think there is a free nx server for windows09:32
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uniqi've never had problems with slow vnc connections either. could be a issue with server not matching client or something.09:32
buzyes09:32
buzmaybe the handshake ends up with some very bad protocol being used?09:33
uniqduff: does he use the regular tightvnc server?09:33
duffserver 3.8 . client 3.309:33
buzi'd go with tightvnc on both machines09:33
duffregulare vnc09:33
duffhe`s not changin software cuz my linux cant cut it09:33
h3sp4wnWell it is well known regular vnc is poor09:33
duffhe`s helping me by letting me use it, to test something.09:33
h3sp4wnover anything other than lan09:33
duffits fine, for me, in windows...09:34
buzeven over lan, vnc is barely useable with default settings09:34
duffis quite usable..for me09:34
duffon dsl  45k upload09:34
buzyou must have a totally different definition of useable than i do09:34
duffi dont....09:35
h3sp4wnduff: build client 3.8 seems to be reasonably sensible (match version numbers)09:35
dufftrust me09:35
duffTHIS isnt usable.09:35
duffwatchin each line get painted09:35
kismetbad protocol or something09:35
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duffim not after 0s latency , i can live with a second delay from clickin start menu..  windows is fine as i say,09:36
kismetis it really surprising MS only plays nice with MS?09:36
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GameOver69hey guys i just updated to dapper on my brothers computer with apt-get upgrade distro09:36
duffits vnc09:36
duffnot ms09:36
GameOver69but now we cant get in09:36
justanotheruserkismet: not any more (but it can be so much different...)09:36
GameOver69it fails to start pcmcia services, and preparing restricted drivers09:36
duffi guess i need a 3.8 client to match his 3.8 server.09:37
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duffvnc is free, ms isnt.09:37
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h3sp4wnwhat os are you connecting to ?09:37
duffxp.09:37
duffvnc serve , free... latest09:37
h3sp4wnUse rdesktop then it will be faster09:37
dufffree client in windows, its ok,09:37
duffI have!09:38
buzthen use the windows client09:38
duffwith wine?09:38
McScruffi was useing tightvnc and krdc09:38
buzwith whatever you tried it last time09:38
duffi was using windows client, in windows.09:38
duffdefeats the object of using linux, if i have to boot to windows.09:38
duffi`ll look for newer client.09:39
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McScruffwhat are you trying to do?09:39
duffer,   vnc to someone?09:39
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buzwell it would for sure be interesting if windows is STILL faster09:39
McScruffif they are useing windows , then they need to run a vnc server09:39
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McScruffthen you use krdc to conenct to it09:40
McScruffit works like a treat09:40
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noteventimeAre there any C++ programmers in here, if yes, anyone knows any good IDE apart from KDevelop, anjuta and Code::Blocks, not counting vi and emacs09:41
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stephenklThis might be too obscure to answer but when you define interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces, do you need to define the gateway for each interface, or just put it at the end of the file?09:42
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duffMcScruff:   dude09:43
duffhe`s in win xp, runnin vnc server.....09:43
McScrufffirewall issues?09:43
duffi WAS in windows using same ver client.  was fast.09:43
duffnow im in kubuntu, its not09:43
uniqstephenkl: if you have more devices on one network you define the gateway for the primary device.09:43
noteventimestephenkl, try man interfaces09:43
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uniqstephenkl: if you give more detailed information on your setup it's easier to give you a more specific answer.09:45
dufffirewall,??? why would a firewall slow it down.. it uses port 5900.. its open09:46
stephenkluniq: I have eth0 (wireless) and eth1 (ethnernet) defined in the interfaces file09:48
noteventimeI think you have to specify the gateway after each interface, I'm not surer though09:48
noteventimesure*09:48
stephenklI think you're right09:49
stephenklI'm testing it now09:49
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TechHuthellp09:50
TechHuthello*09:50
noteventime'ello09:51
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_dainhola09:52
uniqstephenkl: and you want to access the internet through the wire?09:52
TechHuti09:52
uniqstephenkl: you set the default gateway on the device you want to use to access the internet.09:52
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TechHutbye guys, and as a note, this is the best Linux distro I have tried :D09:53
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stephenkluniq: ok that makes sense09:53
ubuntuspeaking of wire(less), isn't the wireless tool in kubuntu in need of some love? It's not really consistant and there's no way to get it to fetch an dhcp-ip (not any obvious way) anyway.09:56
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noteventimeubuntu: Try network-manager-kde09:58
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stephenklnoteventime: is thatr part of kcontrol?09:58
BearKnuckleHi, is there a netinstall mini.iso for kubuntu? I only can find one for ubuntu....09:58
stephenklThere are no really good wifi detectors for kubuntu09:59
noteventimestephenkl, no09:59
stephenklnoteventime: How do I get it?09:59
noteventimestephenkl, network-manager-kde is great if you use DHCP09:59
buzi think it's called knetworkmanager now09:59
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osh__BearKnuckle: that's not in the standard distribution is it?09:59
noteventimesudo apt-get install network-manager-kde ;)09:59
noteventimein dapper universe09:59
stephenklknetworkconf - Network configurator for KDE09:59
stephenklIs that it?09:59
noteventimeni09:59
noteventimeno*09:59
stephenklE: Couldn't find package network-manager-kde10:00
buzis there knetworkmanager for breezy, anyway?10:00
noteventimestephenkl, are you on dapper?10:00
stephenklit ain't there!10:00
stephenklNo i'm on breezy10:00
noteventimeOk10:00
stephenklDamn, I always miss out on cool stuff10:00
noteventimeit's dapper only10:00
BearKnuckleosh: I don't know, was hard to find and I find it unaccaptable, that it's not in the standard distribution, every linux-distribution I know supports netinstall...10:00
osh__noteventime: How DARE you say "ni" to me. :-)10:00
stephenklok :(10:00
h3sp4wnknetworkmanager depends on loads of gnome libs which is why I wouldn't recommend it10:00
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noteventimeosh__, NI ni10:00
stephenklShould I install dapper or is it too unstable10:00
noteventimeechi echi echi10:00
buzit's become quite stable10:01
noteventimestephenkl, IMO it's very stable10:01
buzbut only install when you know what you do10:01
stephenklok...hm10:01
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stephenklShould I just apt-get dist-upgrade, or should I install from a dapper CD?10:01
noteventimeI am no longer the knight who says ni10:01
buzdist-upgrade is fine10:01
stephenklok10:01
osh__BearKnuckle: I'll have a look at it.10:01
stephenklSomeone once told me that dist-upgrade is sloppy10:01
buzdo create backups10:01
noteventimestephenkl, You need to change your sources.list10:01
stephenklI've always held a fear of it10:01
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stephenklnoteventime: oh I  know10:01
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noteventimeIs there any one in here not using katapult? :)10:02
buzdist-upgrade worked fine for me10:02
stephenklI...have it but I don't use it10:02
LeeJunFanstephenkl: I've never liked any OS upgrades, but I did just recently get wild and do a remote update on a non-critical server from hoary to breezy w/o a problem.10:02
duffgunna try freenx client.10:03
osh__noteventime: Its wonderful. Best tool ever.10:03
stephenklI'm not 100% sure what katapult is supposed to do10:03
BearKnuckleWhats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu +kde -gnome?10:03
LeeJunFanstephenkl: think of it as alt-f2 with auto completion.10:03
buzBearKnuckle: not much, aside of the fact that it's hard to get rid of gnome really10:03
osh__stephenkl: it makes the menu obsolete10:03
duffvncserver in my xp vmware is fine with krdc in linux (ok its a lan)... but it was usable over net , from windows (me) to windows(him)10:03
noteventimestephenkl, try alt+space ;)10:04
buzalt-f2 HAS autocompletion10:04
LeeJunFanosh__: it's sure faster than the menu.10:04
uniqbearknuckle: kde/gnome yes.10:04
LeeJunFanbuz: only for stuff you've typed in before.10:04
buztrue10:04
LeeJunFanbuz: katapult does everything in your menu, bookmarks and more.10:04
noteventimekatapult+yakuake == best OS ever :)10:04
stephenkloh this is neat10:04
BearKnucklebuz: that's annoying... I want to do a netinstall in any case, but I can only find a netinstall-image for ubuntu...10:04
buzi always netinstall my notebook10:05
buzworks like a charm10:05
stephenklCan this replace the little application launcher on my toolbar?10:05
noteventimeIs there anyone not using yakuake :)10:05
stephenklI don't know what that is :(10:05
LeeJunFanI only wish yakuake would starup w/o the annoying notification window (press F12, blah blah...)10:05
stephenklGOD i'm so BEHIND you guys :P10:05
osh__LeeJunFan: one of many things that annoys me when they're not availible on other machines.10:05
buzwhat you can do is installing the server edition over the net10:05
buzthen gnome wont be installed10:05
stephenklOk, what's yakuake10:05
uniqquake like terminal.10:05
noteventimeLeeJunFan, Mine doesn't10:05
noteventimestephenkl, Have you ever played quake or halflife?10:06
stephenklI've played quake 2 and HL10:06
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noteventimeyou get a linux terminal like the console in them10:06
noteventimeYou just press a button and it rolls down (although I've turned of the animation)10:07
stephenklHow do I get katapult to start up every time KDE starts?10:07
noteventimestephenkl, I think it does10:07
buzstephenkl: dont end it when you log out10:07
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stephenkloh10:07
osh__noteventime: can you explain for us who haven't played q2 and hl?10:07
noteventimeIt's standard in kubuntu10:07
osh__noteventime: or give a screenshot10:07
buzmhh yakuake looks neat10:07
noteventimeosh__, Try it :)10:07
noteventimeit's in the repos10:08
noteventimevery small10:08
stephenklHey, katapult is pretty neat10:08
stephenklthanks for pointing it out10:08
noteventimeNp :)10:08
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noteventimeNow you should get yakuake10:09
stephenklIs there a way to make it display all the programs that start with (whatever) like in bash?10:09
stephenkland narrow it down as a I type?10:09
noteventimethere is a program called BUM10:09
h3sp4wn why can't I lauch xterm from katapult ?10:09
osh__noteventime: I did. It doesn't play well with the live-cd.10:09
noteventimeohh, I'll link to a screen10:09
ForzaPalermohey what can i do if when starting up kubuntu, the following process FAIL: preparing restricted drivers, and starting PCMCIA services.... then it just goes into konsole, not hte kde gui10:10
osh__noteventime: I get an x-error. Can't write data.10:10
noteventimeohh, ok10:10
buzosh__: still works for me10:10
buzhit f1210:10
buzsee what happens10:10
osh__buz: on the dapper livecd?10:10
buzno on dapper itself10:10
noteventimeosh__, http://yakuake.uv.ro/wp-images/yakuake.jpg10:10
ForzaPalermoanyone?10:10
buztoo bad i havent got composite10:11
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noteventimeForzaPalermo, pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:11
noteventime!patebin10:11
ubotunoteventime: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:11
noteventime!pastebin10:11
ubotuwell, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126910:11
ForzaPalermonoteventime, i cant....10:12
ForzaPalermothere is no gui10:12
stephenklI'm gonna try yakuake10:12
ForzaPalermoand plus now it doesnt load ndiswrapper, so i have no internet10:12
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noteventimeForzaPalermo, ohh :/ try looking at it with nano, console text editor, and try to find an error and we'll try to help you10:13
osh__noteventime: it changes the terminal appearance i gather?10:14
noteventimeForzaPalermo, You aren't by any chance using an ATI card are you?10:14
noteventimeosh__, Its another terminal emulator10:14
osh__noteventime: ah, right. looks cool.10:14
ForzaPalermoits nvidia10:14
noteventimeosh__, If you press a button it "rolls down" from the top of the screen10:14
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ForzaPalermoi had also just installed the legacy drivers.... makes no sense10:15
stephenklok, how do I launch yakuake via katapult? do I need to tell katapult to re-scan my $PATH or something?10:15
noteventimeForzaPalermo, try changing the driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to vesa10:15
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osh__noteventime: got to get me that then. :-)10:15
ForzaPalermohow do i get out of nano10:15
ForzaPalermoi typed the thing wrong and i cant exit10:15
noteventimeForzaPalermo, ctrl + x10:16
noteventimestephenkl, you need to restart katapult to update it10:16
noteventimeAFAIK10:16
ForzaPalermook in the Xorg. log firs thing i see is ignoring request to load module GLcore10:17
noteventimeShouldn't be a problem10:18
ForzaPalermothen i see cant open module kbd and mouse10:18
noteventimeI got that error too10:18
ForzaPalermomodule does not exist10:18
noteventimehmm, thats worse I think.. :(10:18
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ForzaPalermook then i see Failed to initialise GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)10:19
stephenklyakuake is neat but where do I to customize its transparency and stuff?10:19
ForzaPalermothen no input driver matching kbd,  and mouse10:19
ForzaPalermothen no core pointer registered, no core keyboard10:19
stephenkloh nevermind, I see it10:19
ForzaPalermothen fatal server error: failed to initialize core devices10:20
ForzaPalermothats it10:20
ForzaPalermoeasy enough for u genius's to help me fix i hope10:20
ForzaPalermoand plus my ndiswrapper doesnt seem to load10:21
ForzaPalermoany ideas noteventime?10:21
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duffback10:22
duffright, runnin a vnware xp, with vnc, and freenx on my machine,, using nxclient.10:22
duffto test10:22
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paulvolkHello10:22
noteventimeForzaPalerma, Do you know how to edit the xorg configuration?10:22
paulvolkI need some help.10:22
noteventime!tell paulvolk about help10:23
ForzaPalermojust tell me how to get there10:23
noteventime:)10:23
paulvolkI know that but that won't help me much10:23
noteventime /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:23
paulvolkI have tryed10:23
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duffwhy is it askin for a login as well as password?10:23
ForzaPalermonoteventime, ok im in10:24
OliHiho, I get an error when creating and audio cd from mp3 with K3B10:24
noteventime:) I though it was another message10:24
duffvnc doesnt have a login.. it wont work without wone10:24
duffone10:24
dufftho.10:24
OliUnable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:10:24
Oliwhat do I miss?10:24
noteventimeForzaPalerma go donw until you find driver, or search with ctrl + w10:24
ForzaPalermosee it10:24
ForzaPalermodriver 'kdb'10:24
noteventimeHmm, try ctrl + w again10:25
noteventimeThats another driver, well take a look at that later10:25
paulvolkOk I just newly installed Drapper Kubuntu. It went off with out a hitch the problem came about when I try to get updates. I try to open adept but it claims "The APT Database could not be opened!". How can I fix it?10:25
ForzaPalermodriver mouse10:25
noteventimetry to fins something like driver "nv"10:25
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noteventimeFor the graphics card10:25
ForzaPalermoyes10:25
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ForzaPalermoi see it10:26
ForzaPalermoDriver 'nv'10:26
ForzaPalermoBus ID PCI:1:5:010:26
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gleesondso my ubuntu box has all my mp3/ogg files and its hooked up to my stereo, I want to be able to manage playlists and volume over my local network like from my laptop. any one know of any good programs that can help me do this?10:26
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noteventimepaulvok, try sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock10:26
stephenklDo you guys like to hide your panel or do you always keep it up?10:26
noteventimeForzaPalermo, try changing nv to vesa10:27
duffi fkin give up10:27
noteventimestephenkl, I always show them :)10:27
gleesondpreferably from a web page so my wife can change the songs10:27
noteventimeduff, username:password@server:port10:27
ForzaPalermoso what do i do from here noteventime10:27
stephenklI'm using a 1024x762 screen here so I hide mine in order to maximize screen space10:27
gleesondI see there is a shell for xmms that I can control over ssh10:27
noteventimeI'm on 1024x768 laptop ;)10:28
gleesondbut that is not very user friendly10:28
paulvolklol great noteventime now it won't open at all10:28
duffi did the setup part10:28
paulvolklol10:28
stephenklWell!10:28
noteventimegleesond, I think there is a webcontrole plugin for amarok10:28
duffvnc, has no username10:28
duffits failing on connect...10:28
paulvolkwait nvm10:28
noteventimepaulvolk, did you try command line version :)10:28
paulvolknoteventime: It still encounters the same problem10:28
duffNX> 203 NXSSH running with pid: 1477510:28
duffNX> 285 Enabling check on switch command10:28
duffNX> 285 Enabling skip of SSH config files10:28
duffNX> 200 Connected to address: 192.168.1.102 on port: 590010:28
ForzaPalermonoteventime, just change nv to vesa noting else?10:29
duffthats it..10:29
noteventimepaulvolk, try running the console version and see if you get some other error10:29
duffno errors there but gets error from connect.10:29
duffin gui of freenx client.10:29
noteventimeduff, try yourusername:yourpassword@192.168.1.102:590010:29
paulvolkhow  would I run it in command line noteventime10:30
stephenklnoteventime: How do I mess with the transparency of yakuake?10:30
paulvolk?10:30
duffas what10:30
dufflogin or password10:30
noteventimepaulvolk, apt-get update10:30
noteventimepaulvolk, then apt-get upgrade10:30
duffvnc doesnt know usernames, and uses a password i set in the server.10:30
paulvolkok I will try10:30
duffyour method doesnt seem to work10:31
noteventimestephennkl, I don't know if you can, if you don't want to hack the source that is ;)10:31
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duffas u say, my username, my password10:31
noteventimeduff, Have you tried another client?10:31
duffyes, lets not go there10:31
noteventime:)10:31
duffslow as hell....10:31
duffin linux10:31
stephenklhttp://yakuake.uv.ro/wp-images/yakuake.jpg How do I make yakuake look like this?10:32
duffim just about gunna reboot into windows cuz of this10:32
noteventimeduff, I10:32
noteventimeduff, I've used xvnc4viewer10:32
duffand i wont come back10:32
noteventimeWorked good for me10:32
ForzaPalermonoteventime, it still doesnt work :(10:32
noteventimeJust try xvnc4viewer first ;)10:32
paulvolkok noteventime will doing the upgrade thing fix adept?10:32
duffthats what i want10:33
duffim sure.10:33
noteventimepaulvolk, lets hope so :)10:33
duffit was a me (3.3) versus him (3,8+)10:33
noteventime?10:33
noteventimeForzaPalermo, hmm..10:33
paulvolknoteventime: we will find out in 10 min.10:33
paulvolklol10:33
paulvolkit seems to be upgrading adept10:34
noteventimeForzaPalermo, Lets try changing the other drivers10:34
ForzaPalermook10:34
noteventimehmmm10:34
noteventimekdb and mouse, I have them and they work for me :(10:34
noteventimeForzaPalermo, Is it a laptop?10:35
ForzaPalermono10:35
noteventimeand the nic doesn't work without ndiswrappeR?10:35
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ForzaPalermothe nic?10:35
noteventimenetwork card10:36
ForzaPalermono10:36
paulvolkbrb to tell you if it worked10:36
ForzaPalermoits a linksys10:36
celerateis conversation going to start me in here every time?10:36
stephenklOk both yakuake and katapult are super awesome and you guys have changed the way I use KDE. thanks :)10:36
noteventimecelerate, stanard yes10:36
noteventimestephenkl, np :)10:36
ForzaPalermonoteventime, says loadndiswrapper failed10:36
noteventimeForzaPalerma, i take it you tried without it10:37
ForzaPalermohow do i try without it10:37
gleesondnoteventime++10:37
noteventimeForzaPalerma, is it a wifi?10:37
ForzaPalermoyes10:38
noteventimegleesond ? :D10:38
soulfreshneruniq: did you get the adept thing sorted out?10:38
noteventimeForzapalermo, You cant try wired?10:38
stephenklIs firefox 1.5 in dapper?10:38
ForzaPalermono10:38
noteventimestephenkl, yes10:38
stephenkloh man10:38
ForzaPalermoall i did was apt-get upgrade distro..... to dapper and now all this10:38
noteventimeForzapalermo, ok10:38
stephenklthat's awesome10:38
stephenklOk I am definently upgrading10:38
ForzaPalermoworked fine on my latop10:38
dufffor some reason firefox 1.5 in linux needs me to refresh a page before i can enter the link10:39
noteventimeForzapalermo, hmmm, try sudo dpkg --configure -a10:39
celeratesince I'm in here, can someone point me to an easy way to add multimedia support?10:39
duffand also, viewing my musicindex page, its all messed up, whereas, its not in konq, windows.IE/FF10:39
stephenklDon't even tell me VLC with gtk2 is in dapper or i'll wet my pants10:39
ForzaPalermodidnt do anything10:39
noteventimecelerate, breezy or daper?10:40
celeratebreezy I think, 5.1010:40
duffcelebate?  breezy or diaper?10:40
noteventimeForzapalermo, Was just to be sure10:40
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dufflol10:40
noteventimecelerate, Thats breezy :)10:40
duffwhy10:41
noteventimecelerate, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad for mp310:41
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duffseveas, cool repo, cant install breezy10:41
duffcant get gpg keys10:41
dufflol , hello btw10:41
noteventimeForzaPalermo, hmm...10:41
dufferm, freenx, breezy version... i mean.10:42
noteventimeForzaPalermo, I would say that you need an upgrade10:42
stodgeI'm trying to run a small app I'm developing that uses the ClanLib SDK. It needs a shared library in /usr/local/lib. When the app is run in Kdevelop it complains that it can't find a shared library. How do I add directories? I know on other distros there is a ld.conf.so file I can add to10:42
celerategstreamer0.8-mad is listed but cannot be fetched10:42
ForzaPalermonoteventime, thats wha ti did10:42
celerate"no installation candidate"10:42
ForzaPalermoto get me into this mess10:42
noteventimeI know10:42
Seveasduff, read frontpage of repo10:42
noteventimeI think something went wrong during the upgrade10:42
duffi did..10:42
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noteventimestodge, You have clanlib-dev installed?10:43
ForzaPalermook so what do i do10:43
duffurl`s returned timeout for gpg keys10:43
noteventimeForzaPalermo, Are you on AMD64?10:43
ForzaPalermono10:43
ForzaPalermojust amd10:43
duffno matter, ive since given up on it..10:43
ForzaPalermo850mhz powerhouse10:43
noteventime:)10:43
duffwas only to try and speed up vnc, which is hell, under linux.. vnc4viewer however might be the savious10:44
stodgeI installed from source10:44
stodgeThe package for ubuntu is too old10:44
stodgeand I need to tweak the ClanLib source10:44
noteventimestodge, pkg-config?10:44
stodgenoteventime: I don't know how to use that10:44
noteventimepkg-config LIBRARY_TO_GET_INFO_FROM --INFO_YOU_WANT10:45
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stodgeI'm using kdevelop for development10:45
Seveasduff, keys aren't on urls but on keyservers...10:46
noteventimestodge, in project options10:46
ForzaPalermoso noteventime anything i can do? or should i just reinstall from the cd10:46
soulfreshneris Adept working for anyone else?10:46
duffi know,10:46
duffi copy pasted the gpg .10:46
noteventimeForzaPalermo, sorry I don't know :(, you could try in #xorg . I think I'm to n00b for that problem, sorry10:46
duffas stated on the ubuntu and wiki sites10:46
ForzaPalermook thanks anyway10:46
noteventimenp :(10:47
noteventimestodge, try pkg-config clanlib -cflags10:47
noteventimeand paste the output10:47
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stodgeWhere do I add that in the project options?10:48
Flosofthey10:48
stodgeCOnfigure options?10:48
Flosofthow do I sync time?10:48
noteventimeYes10:48
noteventimeFlosoft, (k)ubuntu does so for you :)10:49
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stodgeIn COnfigure arguments?10:49
Flosoftyeah I know10:49
noteventime'ello paulvolk10:49
paulvolkHellp10:49
paulvolkhello*10:49
noteventimestodge, try in the console first10:49
Flosoftbut it is for another pc ... just a one time sync10:49
paulvolkShould I restart after it finishs updating?10:49
paulvolkor should I just try it?10:50
noteventimeohh, ok. There is a program I think, take a look in the repo10:50
paulvolknoteventime?10:50
noteventimepaulvilk, better  restart to be safe :)10:50
paulvolkok10:50
noteventimenew kernel and stuff10:50
stodgeI get unknown option10:50
paulvolksee you in a bit!10:50
stodge-I/usr/local/include/ClanLib-0.810:50
stodgepkg-config clanCore-0.8 --cflags10:50
noteventimegreat10:50
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noteventimestodge, in configure options10:51
stodgeNot sure where to add the pkg-config clanCore-0.8 --libs10:52
stodgeIn kdevelop project options10:52
stodgelinker flags?10:52
noteventimeadd pkg-config clanlib --libs in linker flags10:52
noteventime`pkg-config clanlib --libs`10:52
noteventimeyou need the `10:52
stodgedo I wrap it in single quotes?10:52
stodgeAh10:52
noteventimenot ' but `10:52
noteventimeThats important ;)10:53
stodgeI don't have a pkg-config file for the whole of clanlib - only one for each library file10:53
stodge:(10:53
noteventime`here` takes the output of here and not the text here10:53
Vgehmm, why cant i get streaming video to work?10:53
noteventimeVge, dapper?10:53
Vgeyup10:54
stodgelibclanCore-0.8.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory10:54
noteventimeIf you are trying to watch ram files you need real player10:54
Vgemms://stream1.aller.fi/mscam2 <-- thats the source10:54
noteventimestodge, hmm :/10:54
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knztuxre10:54
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stodgeThat file exists as a soft link to another shared library10:54
Vgebut it just dont start playing :/10:54
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knztuxbon voila j'ai u pti probleme sous quand je tapes sudo gedit  ......10:55
knztuxsudo: gedit: command not found10:55
knztuxcomment cela se fesses10:55
noteventimeVge, works for me :/10:55
knztuxaije couil quelque part ?10:55
robotgeek!fr10:55
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:55
paulvolkhello again noteventime10:55
noteventimeVge, are you using kaffeine?10:55
robotgeekknztux: kdesu kate10:55
noteventimepaulvolk, 'ello10:55
paulvolkSorry but it still doesn't work10:55
knztuxsorry10:55
Vgehmm, ill try kaffeine10:55
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noteventimepaulvolk, Adept?10:56
stodgenoteventime: Do I need to add /usr/local/lib to the ld.conf file somehow?10:56
paulvolkYa it still comes up with the same error10:56
noteventimestodge, I don't think you should have to10:56
stodgeok10:56
stodgeThis is weird10:56
stodgeOk I have to go - thanks for your help10:56
paulvolkit won't let me start it10:56
noteventimestodge, I had Ogre3D intalled there10:56
stodgeah cool10:56
noteventimestodge, Come back later and Ill try to help you :)10:57
stephenklwtf10:57
stodgeok :)10:57
stephenklthe network on my other machine isn't working for some stupid reason10:57
paulvolknotevenrime can you help me?10:57
noteventimepaulvolk, Have you tried synaptic package manager?10:57
Vgenoteventime: kaffeine says "xine error, no plugin found to handle this resource"10:57
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paulvolkhow do I get it?10:57
noteventimeVge, do you have libxine-extracodecs installed?10:57
Vgesec10:58
noteventimepaulvolk, sudo apt-get install synaptic10:58
Vgenoteventime: yes i have the package10:58
noteventimeVge, w32codecs?10:58
Vgeshould be10:59
noteventimehmm, did you "open url"?10:59
Vgeyup10:59
noteventimeWierd, try installing realplayer, maybe it comes with a codec10:59
Vgeill try10:59
Vge!realplayer11:00
ubotu[realplayer]  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:00
noteventimeVge, http://www.real.com/11:00
noteventimeIt might install another codec, after installing it try kaffeine again11:01
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noteventimeok i gtg11:07
noteventimeVge, hope it works out11:07
celerateoh awesome, no one told me there was an "easykubuntu"11:07
noteventime:)11:07
noteventimepaulvolk, hope adept will start or that you like synaptic better11:07
noteventimecelerate, sudo aptitude install python-gtk2 python-glade2 synaptic11:08
noteventimebefore you run easyubuntu11:08
paulvolklol doubt it11:08
celeratethis is easykubuntu, with a 'k'11:08
noteventimeI'll be back later, ask me then if you are still here11:08
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MetaMorfoziSwhat is easy (k)ubuntu?11:08
noteventimecelerate, cool didn't know that existed11:09
celerateit facilitates the adding in of multimedia support and nvidia drivers for me11:09
celeratenoteventime: http://olwin.free.fr/11:09
stephenklCan someone link me to the best sources.list for dapper?11:09
noteventimeWell, as i said, gtg now11:09
stephenklpuhleaze11:09
noteventime!universe11:09
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource11:09
noteventime!easysource11:09
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:09
noteventime^- take a look at that11:09
MetaMorfoziScelerate: it helps install the newest nvidia driver?11:09
noteventimegtg now, bye11:10
celerateMetaMorfoziS: yes11:10
Xaero_Vincentbut when u run this line: sudo aptitude install python-gtk2 python-glade2 synaptic11:10
celeratemaybe not the newest, but a recent one11:10
Xaero_Vincenthow large is the download?11:10
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MetaMorfoziSthe newest or the last stable?:D11:11
Xaero_Vincentdoes it basically install Gnome?11:11
celerateprobably the last stable11:11
MetaMorfoziSbecause for me the last stable (77.77) is old11:11
celerateXaero_Vincent: I didn't need to run that to use easykubuntu11:11
Xaero_Vincenteasykubuntu isnt english11:11
celerateit is for me11:11
stephenklnoteventime: that's cool, thanks!11:11
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celeratethe developer is probably french, but the software runs fine in english11:12
Xaero_Vincentis it exactly like EasyUbuntu or is it different?11:12
kkathmanis there a trick now in kubuntu to get three distinct panels to align on a single bottom row?11:12
stephenklThis is the most helpful irc channel since sliced bread11:12
stephenklwait what11:12
Xaero_Vincentcouldnt we just have something like Yast?11:13
kkathmanI did this in breezy and have it aligned that way in SuSE but apparently the panels stack on top in dapper,11:13
Xaero_Vincentpleease? :P11:13
stephenklok, dist-upgrading11:13
stephenklwhat's Yast?11:13
stephenklWait, I remember, that's the suse thing11:13
stephenklisn't it11:13
Xaero_VincentA control center is whats missing from Ubuntu, Kubuntu, etc.11:13
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kkathmankubuntu has kcontrol11:14
stephenklXaero_Vincent: Well KDE and gnome have their own countrol centers11:14
kkathmanbut its nothing like suse YaST11:14
Xaero_Vincentno I mean something that will help install drivers, etc.11:14
celeratekcontrol doesn't do everything sadly, although it is a very nice piece of software11:14
stephenklXaero_Vincent: ah ok11:14
kkathmanok this is really irritating...why wont the panels line up next to each other11:14
stephenklSO easyubuntu does what yast can do but it's not in english?11:15
Xaero_Vincentyast is like an all in one type thing.. It really makes it user friendly... with Ubuntu there is the wiki but we still have to edit files and what not11:16
celerateno, easyubuntu/easykubuntu installs non-free (as in not OSS) packages, and YaST is a complete control panel11:17
kkathmanaha!!!11:17
Xaero_VincentI think Mepis has one too11:17
kkathmanyes!11:17
Xaero_Vincentanyway I think that would be really sweet to have a control center in Ubuntu, Kubuntu, etc.. I'll get rid of SUSE for sure that way.11:19
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kubuntu_testerhello folks11:22
kubuntu_testerI have a problem with a pcmcia card11:22
Xaero_Vincentoh I ment to ask... but is Kubuntu planned to be sponsered for ship-it CDs for Dapper?11:22
kubuntu_testerwhen I insert it nothing happens11:22
kubuntu_testercan someone give me an advice?11:22
kubuntu_testerI tried to restart pcmcia service11:23
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kubuntu_testerlooked at the end of '/var/log/messages'11:23
kubuntu_testerbut no output about if from kernel11:23
Xaero_Vincentthe talking just stopped :/11:25
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farticushey y'all11:33
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ralcHey guys. I have a problem with getting kdevelop using adept. Error message when i try to get kdevelop3: There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.  kdevelop11:34
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ninHerhi all11:40
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mark---I'm using K3B to try to burn Dapper; running Breezy. It took about an hour to write the CD and will appear to take 5 (five, funf) hours to verify. It's been verifying now for two hours and just hit 22% complete. We'll, I'm hoping Dapper will be better.11:43
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Blissexmark---: how slow is your writer? Should take at most 15 mins on most writers built in the last 5 years...11:50
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