[12:04] <pha_2222> ahhh
[12:04] <pha_2222> bad time of day
[12:05] <IgKh> Well, it is 02:00 (At least in this remote part of the world)
[12:05] <HymnToLife> IgKh> it's not "late in the night" everywhere on earth you know ;)
[12:05] <Raven301> thanks IgKh
[12:05] <pha_2222> igkh: thanks for the heads up
[12:05] <HymnToLife> 00:05 here
[12:06] <noch> hola, im back
[12:06] <noch> with more questions ;/
[12:06] <pha_2222> <--- waiting to see if questions get answered
[12:07] <IgKh> They need to be asked first, don't they?
[12:07] <noch> how do i download a file from my command line?
[12:07] <pha_2222> lgkh: true enough
[12:07] <IgKh> noch: wget
[12:08] <noch> wget address ?
[12:08] <IgKh> yes.
[12:08] <IgKh> If you are downloading something big you can stop and then continue by adding "-c" after "wget"
[12:09] <pha_2222> interesting
[12:09] <HymnToLife> or use a GUI for it like gwget
[12:10] <noch> cant, xserver wont load
[12:10] <noch> til i upgrade
[12:10] <IgKh> noch: You can't use apt-get?
[12:10] <pha_2222> how do I turn off keygen?
[12:10] <HymnToLife> how did you manage tht one ?
[12:10] <solan> wooooooohooo!! finaly got mediatomb to work:D:D
[12:13] <pha_2222> I have been trying to get 4 kubuntu systems networked together, and when I rlogin from one to another I get an error about the hostkey file
[12:13] <pha_2222> how do I turn off that level of protection?
[12:14] <IgKh> pha: The question is not how to fix rlogin but why do you use it
[12:14] <IgKh> SSH is much safer
[12:14] <HymnToLife> depends on what you want to do
[12:14] <pha_2222> fair enough, I can use that, but wouldn't it have the same problem?
[12:15] <HymnToLife> what do you want to do pha_2222 ?
[12:15] <pha_2222> I get the same problem...
[12:16] <mrproper> hi! i have a strange problem. it seems as if KDE and all applications and web pages uses only one font, the same font everywhere. does anybody have a clue why that is?
[12:16] <ninniuz> hello how can I upgrade my breezy to dapper?
[12:16] <pha_2222>     WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!     @
[12:16] <pha_2222> hymn: I want to be able to remote login across the network, and avoid getting the error message....    WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!     @
[12:17] <pha_2222> hymn: btw, thank you for responding
[12:17] <ninniuz> how can I upgrade my breezy to dapper?
[12:18] <Sergi0> gebruikt hier iemand freenx?
[12:18] <Sergi0> dang
[12:18] <Sergi0> wrong channel :P
[12:18] <mindspin> !nl
[12:18] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[12:18] <Sergi0> :)
[12:18] <IgKh> pha: it seems that in Ubuntu rlogin is synonmous to SSH
[12:19] <IgKh> do you have a ~/.ssh/known_hosts?
[12:19] <ninniuz> !it
[12:19] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:19] <pha_2222> lgkh: so I just discovered
[12:19] <justanotheruser> is crystal changed because of a threath?
[12:19] <pha_2222> lgkh: yes, I did see that file, but it is partially incrypted
[12:20] <pha_2222> lgkh: I could reinstall all 4 machines I am doing, but i'd rather not of it can be avoided
[12:22] <pha_2222> Offending key in /home/jjoseph/.ssh/known_hosts:8
[12:22] <pha_2222> RSA host key for hostd has changed and you have requested strict checking.
[12:22] <pha_2222> that is the last part of the error message
[12:23] <mindspin> pha
[12:23] <pha_2222> mind: yes?
[12:23] <mindspin> remove the key in /home/username/.ssh
[12:23] <pha_2222> ok
[12:23] <puckman> new live cd with installer looks nice
[12:24] <mindspin> theres a file remove everything concerning the needed ip address
[12:24] <mindspin> then you will be asked  agin for establishing connection and password
[12:24] <wasp_ems> hi
[12:24] <mindspin> known_host should be the name of the file
[12:24] <wasp_ems> i tried for the first time to burn a cd under linux with k3b but i have a problem can someone help?
[12:25] <mindspin> known_hosts
[12:25] <pha_2222> that was it!
[12:25] <mindspin> yup
[12:25] <pha_2222> thank you muchly... I owe you lunch :)
[12:25] <mindspin> yw
[12:25] <wasp_ems> the error i get is that cdrecord has no permission to open this device
[12:26] <puckman> god gnome sucks
[12:26] <pha_2222> mind: how long have you been working with linux?
[12:26] <mindspin> puckman: mind your words please
[12:26] <puckman> it sticks apps all over the place
[12:26] <puckman> mindspin: because I said sucks?
[12:26] <wasp_ems> can anyone help me?
[12:27] <solan> is it possible to add a link in a db to another an "undertable"?
[12:27] <mindspin> both its very close to swearing ;-)
[12:27] <noch> hey, how long does it take to unzip/untar, whichever, a 500 Kb file??
[12:27] <solan> noch: seconds...
[12:28] <mindspin> and because I do not like to condemm ubuntu desktop managers
[12:28] <mindspin> neither KDE nor Gnome or xfce
[12:28] <mindspin> I hate WM flaming
[12:28] <HymnToLife> Fluxbox nukes them all anyway :p
[12:28] <noch> =/
[12:28] <mindspin> bur that is my personal view
[12:29] <pha_2222> peace all, and thank you
[12:29] <mindspin> the other comment is concerning about the COC
[12:29] <noch> why wouldnt tar -x file.tar work?
[12:29] <puckman> I was not flaming and I have nothing against the wm as such. I just noticed that the gnome desktop filled all my clean and miminal menus with various apps
[12:29] <IgKh> mindspin: TWMTIJMD rulez! :)
[12:29] <ubuntu> is the livecd installer supposed to just repartition your hd on its own?
[12:29] <puckman> maybe my mistake of installing both
[12:29] <ubuntu_> hi
[12:30] <noch> tell noch about tar
[12:30] <ubuntu_> have some problems with the alpha/beta installer
[12:30] <HymnToLife> puckman> you can edit your menus manually
[12:30] <mindspin> I#m a little sensitive in this questions because I#m german
[12:30] <solan> any1? linking within a database...?
[12:30] <puckman> HymnToLife: I know, just liked the default kubuntu setup
[12:30] <ubuntu_> the installer crashes everytime direkt after the time settings
[12:31] <wasp_ems> does anyone here use an external dvdr and k3b?
[12:31] <puckman> i change very little from the default kubuntu setup, seems to suit my personal taste rather well
[12:31] <ohoel> mine does too, and runs partman, parted_server, perform_recipe
[12:31] <ubuntu_> does anybody know a solution ?
[12:33] <idiotbs> hello
[12:33] <IgKh> Got to go - good night everbody!
[12:33] <mindspin> nite
[12:43] <puckman> I installed the gnome desktop with apt-get install gnomedesktop
[12:43] <puckman> what would be te best way to remove it
[12:43] <puckman> I tried apt-get remove gnomedesktop but that does not work
[12:44] <HymnToLife> try removing a core gnome app like nautilus, evolution or firefox
[12:46] <angelo> hola!
[12:46] <mrproper> hi! i have a strange problem. it seems as if KDE and all applications and web pages uses only one font, the same font everywhere. does anybody have a clue why that is?
[12:47] <angelo> ...
[12:47] <regeya> ...
[12:48] <regeya> sounds like misconfiguration of some sort!
[12:48] <regeya> and,
[12:48] <regeya> um,
[12:48] <regeya> yeah.
[12:49] <angelo> ma in tipi di carattere?
[12:49] <HymnToLife> !tell angelo about it
[12:50] <angelo> ok
[12:52] <angelo> how is your gtk styles and fonts?
[12:58] <wasp_ems> i have a cd in my external cd rom and the button does not work for it to open is there any command i can use?
[12:58] <wasp_ems> eject only oppens my internal cdrom
[12:58] <wasp_ems> any help?
[12:58] <OdyX> wasp_ems: eject /dev/your_cd
[12:59] <brandon_> it may have a mounted disc inside
[12:59] <brandon_> which you'll have to unmount first
[12:59] <OdyX> brandon_: eject will unmount first...
[12:59] <wasp_ems> ok thanx
[01:00] <brandon_> oh it WILL
[01:00] <OdyX> brandon_: if you have the rights to...
[01:00] <OdyX> brandon_: which imposes sudo most of the time...
[01:00] <OdyX> but graphically, right-clic eject...
[01:01] <brandon_> but don't you think it's important to give him the basic knowledge about mount/umount?
[01:04] <OdyX> brandon_: I do... but I answered his question...
[01:04] <noch> hey, how do i run a .deb file?
[01:04] <brandon_> sudo dpkg -i
[01:04] <_jeff> are there any ndiswrapperers here?
[01:05] <_jeff> im having trouble with my wlan
[01:05] <noch> thank you
[01:05] <noch> hmm
[01:05] <_jeff> i can see networks, and everything says that I have connected to one, but i cant ping or go on the internet
[01:05] <_jeff> and when i ifup wlan0, i get no dhcp offers recieved
[01:06] <noch> should i run my drver install package  in /etc/X11 or does it matter?
[01:06] <brandon_> doesn't matter
[01:06] <brandon_> what's the problem?
[01:06] <noch> i got a dependency error
[01:07] <brandon_> right, so that means you're missing something that nees to be installed first
[01:07] <noch> error processing xserver-xorg-driver-i810
[01:07] <noch> hmm
[01:07] <brandon_> what package are you trying to install?
[01:07] <brandon_> video drivers?
[01:07] <noch> https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/187002/xserver-xorg-driver-i810.
[01:07] <noch> yea
[01:08] <brandon_> i think intel drivers are included int he repos
[01:08] <noch> repos?
[01:08] <brandon_> they should have been installed automatically
[01:08] <noch> they werent, cause my xserver wont load
[01:08] <brandon_> how do you know your video card isn't working properly?
[01:09] <brandon_> i see
[01:09] <noch> =p
[01:09] <brandon_> type lspci
[01:09] <noch> i was told i need to upgrade to 1.4.1.3 in order for it to work
[01:09] <brandon_> and look for the intel graphics
[01:10] <noch> k
[01:10] <brandon_> upgrade what to 1.4.1.3?
[01:10] <noch> my vid card  drivers
[01:10] <brandon_> who told you that?
[01:11] <noch> i read it on the ubuntu forums
[01:11] <brandon_> how do you know it applied to you specifically?
[01:11] <noch> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156965
[01:11] <noch> because he had a similar problem i did
[01:12] <noch> i mean he had the same vid card
[01:12] <brandon_> are you using an inspiron 9400?
[01:12] <noch> Video: Works. Intel GMA950. Upgrade "xserver-xorg-driver-i810" to 1.4.1.3 or later; earlier drivers otherwise do not identify this chipset. Install "915resolution" to drive LCD display at full (1920x1200) resolution. 3D accelleration, VGA output, DVI output, display cloning all work. Xinerama, dual-head and S-Video support not tested yet.
[01:12] <noch> no
[01:13] <brandon_> let me check something
[01:13] <noch> k
[01:14] <brandon_> are you using breezy or dapper?
[01:14] <noch> breezy
[01:16] <brandon_> type sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-i810
[01:17] <noch> it said its the newest version
[01:17] <noch> then . .
[01:18] <noch> it said a few files have unmet dependencies
[01:18] <mrproper> hey! is there any progress with the unichrome drivers for the KM808 chipset?
[01:18] <brandon_> ype sudo apt-get -f install
[01:20] <noch> there were errors processing a fw files
[01:20] <brandon_> sudo apt-get update
[01:21] <brandon_> how long have you had breezy installed?
[01:21] <noch> like a day
[01:21] <noch> i havent been able to get my xserver up since
[01:21] <brandon_> are you using another computer right now?
[01:21] <noch> yea
[01:22] <brandon_> is it done updating yet?
[01:22] <noch> yea
[01:22] <noch> try it again?
[01:22] <brandon_> after it updates, run sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:23] <brandon_> then run sudo apt-get -f install, and then run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:23] <noch> ok
[01:23] <noch> thank you again brandon
[01:24] <brandon_> no problem, but the problem with the thread you showed me is that the guy in question is using dapper
[01:24] <Flosoft> hey
[01:24] <Flosoft> I got a question about WiFi
[01:24] <noch> ahh
[01:24] <Flosoft> I need a nice manager
[01:25] <Flosoft> for KDE
[01:25] <brandon_> what you can do is download dapper beta 1, put it on a cd, and then try booting off it. if it starts your xserver, then you may want to go with dapper instead of breezy
[01:26] <noch> whats the difference? i havent used linux since pre-ferdora =/
[01:26] <brandon_> you could modprobe the module, but i don;t know what the module name is for that graphics card
[01:26] <brandon_> dapper is just the next release in the pipeline
[01:26] <brandon_> breezy is the current stable release
[01:26] <noch> oh
[01:26] <noch> ahh, its still beta
[01:27] <brandon_> well, i'm running it right now, and it's pretty stable
[01:27] <noch> ill just do this and if it works ill wait for 1.x
[01:27] <noch> oh
[01:27] <brandon_> especially with riddell's kde packages
[01:27] <noch> ok, then ill try it if this doesnt work then
[01:27] <brandon_> i didn't have quite as much luck with gnome
[01:27] <mark---> Is Breezy a pretty good rescue live CD? I've got a situation...
[01:28] <brandon_> well, obviously, you could modprobe the module and get it onto the system that way, and that may work, but i don;t know what the hell the thing's name is
[01:28] <brandon_> mark--- it's not too bad. let me guess. you wiped out grub?
[01:29] <mark---> Well, no I sorta messed up the Xorg arena with a power spike...
[01:29] <brandon_> oh, that's good
[01:29] <brandon_> what happens now?
[01:29] <mark---> now i just want to e-mail myself a few files and then wipe the laptop and put Dapper on there...
[01:35] <iqo1> how do i view "bluetooth:\" in dapper?
[01:36] <brandon_> noch: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.06/
[01:36] <noch> not yet
[01:36] <noch> oh
[01:36] <noch> ok
[01:37] <noch> thankx
[01:37] <mark---> noch nicht = not yet
[01:37] <noch> what does apt-get do?
[01:37] <noch> nien
[01:37] <Flosoft> hey ... is there anyone who can explain to me why Kwifimanager doesn't get an IP?
[01:38] <brandon_> apt-get looks at a huge online warehouse of packages, and downloads and installs them at your request, solving dependencies along the way
[01:38] <Tm_T> ok, this is random, but somehow interesting: jupiter and moons http://users.utu.fi/tomhak/img_0778.jpg
[01:39] <noch> k
[01:39] <brandon_> which one is george bush from?
[01:39] <noch> im restarting, we'll see if thsi works
[01:39] <Tm_T> brandon_: the darkest one
[01:40] <noch> damnation
[01:41] <noch> now its worse =/
[01:42] <noch> i think ima go with that dapper package
[01:43] <brandon_> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.06/kubuntu-6.06-beta-install-i386.iso.torrent
[01:43] <brandon_> what kind of computer have you got anyway?
[01:43] <noch> latitude D620
[01:43] <noch> yea, i already burned it to a CD
[01:43] <brandon_> is it fairly new?
[01:43] <noch> from the site
[01:44] <noch> yep, about a 4 days
[01:44] <brandon_> linux sometimes has some problems with brand new stuff
[01:44] <brandon_> how did you download it so fast?
[01:44] <noch> yea, ive noticed
[01:44] <noch> ;)
[01:45] <noch> i have a nice, quick connection
[01:45] <brandon_> well, try booting into that then. change your boot sequence to look fot he cd first
[01:45] <noch> yea, ima do it later, i gotta run to work in a sec
[01:45] <noch> but thank you for all your help
[01:46] <brandon_> ok
[01:47] <brandon_> yo got tired of windows awfully fast, i'll tell you that
[01:47] <kev1n> i have somehow disabled or moved my mouse drivers. I ned help to reinstall the correct ones back in?
[01:47] <noch> lol, nah, ive been meaning to gte back on linux, its just that i have to move too may files on my PC to bother with it
[01:50] <mark---> noch: Concerning apt-get, I highly recommend learning about it as it is powerful, here's a good read: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/apt-get-intro.html
[01:56] <asimov> how do I install opera
[01:56] <asimov> in dapper drake
[01:56] <Snake__> !opera
[01:56] <ubotu> it has been said that opera is not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[01:56] <djk_> download the deb and dpkg -i
[01:57] <_arthurb> Hi... I filed a bug long ago against kwifimanager, I fixed it along with the author of the package... yet as of this day, the version of kwifimanager shipping with dapper is still buggy
[01:58] <_arthurb> the funny thing ( not so funny in fact ) is that the bug makes the program absolutely completly useless... ( yes it is part of the standard default kubuntu install )
[01:59] <_arthurb> I'm amazed that this can remain unnoticed
[01:59] <Flosoft> does anyone know why I don't get an IP when I connect to a wifi?
[02:00] <Blissex> Flosoft: poor question, too vague. But to get an IP, enable the DHCP server
[02:01] <stodge> Is kubuntu meant to have /etc/ld.so.conf?
[02:01] <_arthurb> Flosoft: because connecting to a ssid and requesting an IP is different
[02:01] <Flosoft> well I have a DHCP server in my network
[02:01] <Flosoft> via cable all works fine
[02:01] <Flosoft> and WiFi on my Windows too
[02:01] <_arthurb> what are you using ?
[02:01] <Flosoft> Kwifimanager
[02:01] <Flosoft> Kubuntu Breezy
[02:01] <_arthurb> set it up to run dhclient after connecting
[02:02] <_arthurb> that being said
[02:02] <_arthurb> OH KWIFIMANAGER is badly broken in kubuntu and I bet at that pace it will ship broken
[02:02] <_arthurb> in june
[02:02] <Flosoft> ah thanks _arthurb ... now it works
[02:03] <Flosoft> is there any other interface to WiFi ?
[02:03] <_arthurb> iwconfig :)
[02:03] <_arthurb> wifi-radar
[02:03] <Flosoft> anyone of them graphical?
[02:03] <_arthurb> wifi-radar
[02:03] <_arthurb> put it smells like feet
[02:04] <Flosoft> ???
[02:05] <_arthurb> (gtk)
[02:05] <mark---> Can anybody point me to documentation on how to mount partitions on a drive after booting from a live CD?
[02:07] <brandon_> i'll tell you right now
[02:07] <brandon_> type fdisk -l
[02:07] <brandon_> sudo fdisk -l
[02:07] <mark---> done...
[02:07] <brandon_> now you should be seeing alist of partitions
[02:07] <mark---> yes, i am
[02:08] <brandon_> use /opt to mount the one you want
[02:08] <mark---> ok...
[02:08] <brandon_> mount /dev/hdxx /opt
[02:08] <brandon_> with sudo
[02:08] <brandon_> sudo mount /dev/hdxx /opt
[02:09] <mark---> hey, thanks, i owe you a beverage...
[02:09] <brandon_> yeah, i'll remember that pal...
[02:09] <brandon_> fax it to me
[02:09] <mark---> I'll have to learn about the /opt thingie...
[02:10] <mark---> ;)
[02:10] <brandon_> opt is just opt
[02:12] <kijjaz> ive been loving KDE, but one thing i cant configure easily in it is the xkb options. normally i should set it in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg only, but now ie got kubuntu and still, when i add xkb option for keyboard layout group change keys, it doesnt work again -_-. what do i need? (me new to kubuntu)
[02:19] <brandon_> kijjaz: what are you trying to do?
[02:20] <brandon_> i mean forget xkb, what are you actually trying to do?
[02:21] <Blissex> kijjaz: 'kxkb'
[02:21] <Blissex> kijjaz: 'Control Center:Regional & Accessibility:Keyboard Layout:Xkb options'
[02:22] <Flosoft> wifi-radar won't start
[02:22] <Flosoft> how do I start it?
[02:27] <idiotbs> sudo wifi-radar
[02:31] <mark---> Brandon: This is working. I'm find that  when I do mount /dev/hdaX /opt that hdaX will be mounted, fine. But only one partition at a time can be mounted on /opt. That's fine as I'm in rescue mode. It makes me wonder how I could also have hda3, hda4, etc. mounted at the same time.
[02:32] <_jeff> can anybody help me with my wlan woes?
[02:32] <_jeff> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=944474#
[02:36] <mark---> _jeff: are u Katana?
[02:37] <produkt_> how can I upgrade/update my ubuntu install to kubuntu?
[02:38] <_jeff> mark---: katana? oh yeah on the forums i am katana
[02:38] <McScruff> sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[02:38] <McScruff> i think
[02:38] <Hobbsee> produkt_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:38] <McScruff> so close
[02:38] <mark---> I read it, sorry don't know much about ndiswrappers yet.....
[02:38] <produkt_> tyty
[02:38] <_jeff> damn
[02:38] <_jeff> thanks though
[02:39] <produkt_> wee, big ass installation
[02:40] <Hobbsee> hehe yeah
[02:40] <produkt_> ty McScruff and Hobbsee, bbiab going to blockbuster now
[02:40] <Hobbsee> ok
[02:44] <_jeff> hobbsee: do you think you can help me with my wlan woes?
[02:44] <Hobbsee> _jeff: quite possibly, what's the problem
[02:44] <_jeff> hobbsee: i remember you helped me when i was 100% noob last summer :)
[02:45] <_jeff> hobbsee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=944474#
[02:45] <Hobbsee> :P
[02:45] <Snake[OnAir] > Hobbsee: is a vet :)
[02:45] <_jeff> lol
[02:45] <_jeff> yep
[02:46] <Hobbsee> _jeff: interesting...
[02:46] <Hobbsee> ndiswrapper -l - what does that show?
[02:48] <Raven301> Could someone look at this error please http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/674498
[02:48] <_jeff> Hobbsee: net8180 driver present hardware present
[02:49] <Hobbsee> Raven301: er...is there supposed to be anything there?
[02:49] <Hobbsee> _jeff: okay, and in iwconfig, does it show the essid, or "off/any"?
[02:50] <Hobbsee> oh, no there is something there
[02:50] <_jeff> Hobbsee: it doesnt say anything about an essid in my iwconfig
[02:50] <Hobbsee> yep, i thougth that might be the case
[02:50] <Hobbsee> sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid auntymauva
[02:51] <Hobbsee> type it in, what does it give you?
[02:51] <_jeff> nothing
[02:51] <Hobbsee> right, so it just goes back to an empty prompt?
[02:51] <Raven301> Hobbsee: http://pastebin.com/674501  sorry
[02:51] <Hobbsee> good, then do a sudo dhclient wlan0
[02:51] <_jeff> i type it in, press enter and it just gives me another root@ubuntu:
[02:52] <_jeff> ok
[02:52] <Hobbsee> !tell Raven301 about kdesu
[02:53] <Raven301> Hobbsee: same error
[02:53] <Raven301> ii
[02:53] <Hobbsee> _jeff: excellent.  it either works, or spits out an error messgae :P
[02:54] <_jeff> Hobbsee: No DHCPOFFERS recieved
[02:54] <_jeff> Hobbsee: No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[02:54] <Hobbsee> _jeff: hmmm okay...did the essid show up in iwconfig this time?
[02:54] <_jeff> Hobbsee: ill check
[02:54] <_jeff> Hobbsee: yeah
[02:55] <Hobbsee> interesting...
[02:55] <Hobbsee> are there other computers connected to that network?
[02:55] <_jeff> not wirelessly
[02:56] <_jeff> Hobbsee: its a mixed network and i have mac filtering on to allow only the laptop to connect
[02:56] <Hobbsee> right, okay... is there any other encryption on the router?
[02:56] <Hobbsee> and i take it, you've checked that the mac address is the same?
[02:57] <_jeff> Hobbsee: yeah mac is the same, no other protection
[02:57] <Hobbsee> i'd just try takign teh mac address filtering off for a min, then putting it back on...just seeing if that's the problem
[02:57] <Hobbsee> but first...
[02:57] <Hobbsee> is that the recommended driver for the card?
[02:57] <McScruff> _jeff: what chipset?
[02:57] <Hobbsee> realtec
[02:57] <Hobbsee> er, realtek
[02:58] <McScruff> i got my bcm4318 working :)
[02:58] <Hobbsee> McScruff: yay!
[02:58] <McScruff> took many weeks and updateing the kernel didnt help
[02:58] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:59] <_jeff> its what ive been using since i got the card, i got the driver because it was on the ndiswrapper driver list beside my card model
[02:59] <McScruff> Hobbsee: did you look at my error screenshot?
[03:00] <Hobbsee> _jeff: okay then
[03:00] <Hobbsee> McScruff: er...was my nick attached to it?  if not, probably not
[03:00] <McScruff> http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot19nx.png
[03:01] <stephenkl> hm
[03:01] <Hobbsee> [10:56]  <-- Adyeths has left this channel ("Did you hear that two rabbits escaped from the zoo and so far they have only recaptured 116 of them?"). - hahaha!
[03:01] <_jeff> Hobbsee: ok i turned off mac filtering and am trying again
[03:01] <stephenkl> How do I get a USB trackball working instead (or even at the same time as) my laptop's little eraser pad thingie
[03:01] <Hobbsee> McScruff: stupid question, but is the password prompt box behind that?
[03:01] <Hobbsee> stephenkl: er....it doesnt?
[03:02] <stephenkl> Hobbsee: I plug it in and it won't light up and it doesn't work
[03:02] <stephenkl> I am using kubuntu
[03:02] <stephenkl> yeah
[03:02] <Hobbsee> stephenkl: dapper or breezy?
[03:02] <stephenkl> breezy
[03:02] <McScruff> Hobbsee: nope
[03:02] <stephenkl> I don't knwo what it's called :p
[03:02] <Hobbsee> McScruff: darn.
[03:02] <McScruff> Hobbsee: didnt come up :(
[03:02] <stephenkl> the mouse thingie I mean
[03:02] <_jeff> Hobbsee: no luck :(
[03:02] <Hobbsee> stephenkl: yep, okay, i know what you mean
[03:02] <stephenkl> this is weird, it should atleast light up
[03:03] <Hobbsee> thanks stephenkl! :P  _jeff: does the card light up at all?
[03:03] <_jeff> Hobbsee: yeah one light is on
[03:03] <Hobbsee> stephenkl: have you tried rebooting with it in, so that the hardware detection detects it?  you shouldnt have to, but...
[03:04] <Hobbsee> !+info wlassistant
[03:04] <ubotu> Package 'wlassistant' does not exist.
[03:04] <Hobbsee> darn, i thought that might be the case
[03:04] <_jeff> for me?
[03:04] <Hobbsee> _jeff: i was just checking if they had that package in breezy
[03:04] <_jeff> im using kubuntu beta
[03:04] <stephenkl> Hobbsee: I haven't tried but I want to see if I can make it work without rebooting
[03:05] <Hobbsee> _jeff: woot!  install knetworkmanager
[03:05] <_jeff> Hobbsee: lol ok
[03:05] <Hobbsee> i thought you were stuck on breezy!
[03:05] <Hobbsee> stephenkl: fair enough
[03:05] <_jeff> lol
[03:06] <Hobbsee> _jeff: we got a couple of decent wireless tools - dapper only...
[03:06] <_jeff> lol awesome
[03:06] <_jeff> i already have knetworkmanager installed
[03:06] <Hobbsee> _jeff: run it?
[03:06] <_jeff> ok
[03:06] <burner__> greetings :)
[03:06] <Hobbsee> McScruff: workaround is to use kdesu kcontrol, instead of system settings
[03:08] <stephenkl> hey!
[03:08] <stephenkl>  /etc/init.d/hotplug does it
[03:08] <stephenkl> detects my mouse
[03:08] <stephenkl> cool
[03:08] <stephenkl> AUTOMAGICALY *reading rainbow*
[03:09] <_jeff> Hobbsee: how do i run it? i typed knetworkmanager into the command but nothign happened, then i did it in katapult and still nothing
[03:09] <Hobbsee> _jeff: should have been something appear on your kicker
[03:09] <Hobbsee> stephenkl: brilliant!
[03:10] <_jeff> lol oh yeah its been there the whole time
[03:10] <_jeff> LOL
[03:12] <_jeff> Hobbsee?
[03:12] <Hobbsee> feistel: haha
[03:12] <Hobbsee> idiotbs|away: please get rid of the away messages
[03:12] <Hobbsee> _jeff: try to connect to the correct network using knm then...
[03:13] <slougi> hi all, in a bit of trouble here with konq. Whenever I open any website, it looks like this: http://lyseo.edu.ouka.fi/~slougi/konqueror_bug.png Note the black at the bottom is the konq window continuing beyond the screen border....
[03:13] <slougi> Console output looks like this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Afdah724.html
[03:13] <_jeff> it says im connected, but i cant see websites or ping anything
[03:13] <slougi> so it seems the url label in the statusbar is screwing up for osme reason
[03:14] <slougi> also those cannot bitblt messages look weird
[03:14] <_arthurb> Is there a kubuntu dev channel ?
[03:15] <Hobbsee> _arthurb: yes, #kubuntu-devel
[03:15] <Hobbsee> no idea if anyone else is awake though
[03:16] <_jeff> lol
[03:16] <Hobbsee> _jeff: hmmm....
[03:16] <_jeff> Hobbsee: its a dilly isnt it?
[03:16] <Hobbsee> _jeff: i'd try to see if any other computers can connect to that router - on any OS
[03:16] <Hobbsee> the settings may not be correct
[03:17] <_jeff> i was able to connect to my wlan with breezy this morning
[03:17] <_jeff> then i reformatted everything
[03:17] <Hobbsee> mmm okay...
[03:17] <_jeff> and installed beta
[03:17] <Hobbsee> what changed - did you stilluse the same drivers?
[03:17] <Hobbsee> (sorry for dodgy typing - so cold!)
[03:18] <_jeff> Hobbsee: yeah same drivers and everything
[03:19] <Hobbsee> _jeff: mmm okay
[03:19] <_jeff> CheeseBurgerMan: hey cheesy
[03:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hey, jeff.
[03:19] <slougi> konq problem fixed...
[03:22] <wasp_ems> hi..i was wondeing if i can find window decorations to download from anywhere...
[03:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://kde-look.org
[03:22] <_jeff> kde-look.org
[03:22] <wasp_ems> thanx
[03:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> NP
[03:22] <_jeff> ur quick cheesy
[03:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> Practice. :P
[03:23] <_jeff> lol
[03:23] <produkt> how do I log into kde automatically after installing ontop of ubuntu
[03:23] <bur[n] er> configure kdm or gdm to auto-login
[03:23] <produkt> idk how to do that
[03:24] <bur[n] er> anyone else having issues with kcontrol, konq, and kdebase right now with apt?
[03:24] <bur[n] er> you using gdm or kdm?
[03:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> bur[n] er: I can help you with KDM, not so sure about gdm
[03:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> Errr
[03:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> that was for produkt
[03:24] <Hobbsee> bur[n] er: er...nope
[03:24] <bur[n] er> i can help with gdm, not sure about kdm :)
[03:24] <produkt> I'm using kdm I think, but it logged into gnome anyways
[03:25] <bur[n] er> wait a minute... when you say "automatically" what do you mean?
[03:25] <bur[n] er> without a username and password prompt?  or you just want to use kde?
[03:25] <wasp_ems> is it debian files we use in kubuntu?
[03:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> wasp_ems: Yep
[03:25] <wasp_ems> thanx:)
[03:25] <bur[n] er> it's ubuntu files
[03:25] <bur[n] er> which are in turn debian when from the universe
[03:25] <produkt> no with username prompt, just dunno howto get into kde after I installed it
[03:26] <bur[n] er> produkt, pick "session" then choose kde :)
[03:26] <produkt> I tried startkde
[03:26] <produkt> oh
[03:26] <bur[n] er> from the login screen
[03:26] <produkt> okies, lemme try that
[03:26] <produkt> tyty
[03:26] <bur[n] er> you can hit "F10" to get the menu as well
[03:26] <Hobbsee_away> back in a bit...
[03:26] <produkt> brb, I hope
[03:26] <bur[n] er> hasta luego
[03:27] <_jeff> Hobbsee_away: ok
[03:28] <wasp_ems> i am trying to download a debian file but it tells me i cannot save as it is binary etc..what should i do?
[03:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> wasp_ems: open a console and use 'wget <link to download>'
[03:30] <wasp_ems> Ok i will try..thanx
[03:31] <tiglionabbit> do I want to get kubuntu dapper or breezy?
[03:31] <kev1n> what is the command to go into konqueror as root
[03:31] <kev1n> dapper!
[03:32] <tiglionabbit> breezy's not ready?
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> tiglionabbit: Dapper is the beta, Breezy is the stable version.
[03:32] <tiglionabbit> I mean dapper
[03:32] <tiglionabbit> I mean *reads this time*
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> Dapper's got a few bugs yet to work out.-- most notable that I've heard is that kcontrol doesn't appear to work
[03:32] <tiglionabbit> uh..  isn't kcontrol quite important?
[03:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah. :P
[03:33] <tiglionabbit> um...
[03:33] <h3sp4wn> kcontrol works for me
[03:33] <tiglionabbit> how does it not work?
[03:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> h3sp4wn: I've seen a few reports of it not working
[03:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> Never really tried it, though, so I can't give details.
[03:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> tiglionabbit: i'm not sure -- all I've seen is 'not work' :\
[03:34] <wasp_ems> CheeseBurgerMan: thanx..i used wget...it says it got it but it is not doing anything else...what now?
[03:34] <tiglionabbit> how does ubuntu and kubuntu sync?  I mean, if I installed ubuntu dapper and asked for a kde package, would it give me kubuntu dapper testing stuff?
[03:34] <wasp_ems> ok
[03:34] <wasp_ems> found it
[03:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> wasp_ems: OK, good. :)
[03:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> tiglionabbit: Yes
[03:34] <tiglionabbit> isn't that bad?
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> Um, how so?
[03:35] <tiglionabbit> Even if I do install as ubuntu, I'm going to want things like k3b, so on a supposedly stable release I'd be getting testing packages without knowing it
[03:35] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu dapper is not stable either
[03:35] <tiglionabbit> really?  I thought it was supposed to be released about now?
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, but it was delayed 'til June 1st
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> So normally you'd be right, just not now. ;)
[03:36] <tiglionabbit> oh
[03:37] <tiglionabbit> heh I thought this stuff was locked to a 6-month release cycle
[03:37] <kev1n> what is the command to go into konqueror as root
[03:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> kev1n: kdesu konqueror
[03:37] <kev1n> ta
[03:37] <kev1n> hanks
[03:37] <mark---> How do you start ssh in Kubuntu? /etc/init.d/ssh start says 'no such file or directory'.
[03:37] <wasp_ems> CheeseBurgerMan: i dont seem to find the file it says it got..i got to change the settings but i cannot find the file
[03:37] <wasp_ems> :S
[03:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> wasp_ems: Did you install it? wget just downloads.
[03:37] <tiglionabbit> mark---: that means you don't have it.  Install openssh-server
[03:37] <wasp_ems> i dont know where it downloaded it
[03:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> wasp_ems: probably into your home folder
[03:38] <mark---> well, i'm running from a live cd in rescue mode and trying to do an rsync of files to another computer
[03:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> wasp_ems: the command for installing it is 'sudo dpkg -i <package>.deb
[03:38] <tiglionabbit> mark---: you can still install stuff, no problem
[03:38] <mark---> ok.
[03:38] <wasp_ems> CheeseBurgerMan:  cool i found it..thanx allot
[03:38] <tiglionabbit> it installs in ram
[03:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> You're welcome, wasp_ems  :)
[03:39] <tiglionabbit> I guess I'll stick with breezy then
[03:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> Probably a good idea.
[03:40] <produkt> can someone dcc me their kubuntu dapper apt sources list?
[03:41] <tiglionabbit> heh yeah.  I hate it when people try out an unstable testing release of something and decide it sucks because of the obvious flaws
[03:41] <tiglionabbit> I dealt with quite a few people like that while trying to help out in #ubuntu
[03:41] <_arthurb> ur yeah but dapper is almost out
[03:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> !sources
[03:42] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:42] <_arthurb> and the bug fixing should be done by now according to the release plan
[03:42] <tiglionabbit> almost?  2 months isn't almost to me
[03:42] <tiglionabbit> what's holding them up?
[03:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> I dunno, I'm not a dev. ;)
[03:43] <tiglionabbit> is it hard to get firefox 1.5 on breezy?
[03:43] <tiglionabbit> that is, without compiling myself and screwing up its integration with everything
[03:43] <_arthurb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule ... notice ?
[03:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> tiglionabbit: Nah
[03:44] <wasp_ems> dpkg: error processing 13969-crystal-1.0.0.tar.bz2.deb (--install):
[03:44] <wasp_ems>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[03:44] <_arthurb> beta has been released
[03:44] <wasp_ems> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:44] <wasp_ems>  13969-crystal-1.0.0.tar.bz2.deb
[03:44] <wasp_ems> CheeseBurgerMan: i get this error
[03:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> !firefox1.5
[03:44] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:44] <_arthurb> now it's mostly supposed to be documentation
[03:45] <_arthurb> UserInterfaceFreeze
[03:45] <_arthurb> only critical bugs are fixed
[03:45] <mark---> tiglionabbit: thanks on ssh install, it did install. now working on getting rsync to work. I just returned from Merrill BTW.
[03:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> wasp_ems: I think you downloaded the wrong thing
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://www.kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=13969&id=2
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> try that
[03:49] <tiglionabbit> furk, hour and a half download time on this iso
[03:50] <_jeff> can anybody help me with my wlan problem?
[03:50] <_jeff> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=163904
[03:51] <wasp_ems> CheeseBurgerMan: the same thing happened..the same error
[03:51] <wasp_ems> CheeseBurgerMan: anything else i can do to install it?
[03:51] <CheeseBurgerMan> wasp_ems: You can compile it
[03:52] <wasp_ems> CheeseBurgerMan: i do not know how:(
[03:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> first run 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[03:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> Well, I'll walk you through. :)
[03:52] <wasp_ems> ok thanx allot
[03:53] <stephenkl> Have they put out a better version of VLC yet?
[03:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> wasp_ems: Run 'sudo apt-get install build-essential kdelibs4-dev'
[03:54] <wasp_ems> CheeseBurgerMan: after the first one?
[03:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> Instead of if you haven't run the first one yet
[03:54] <wasp_ems> i have
[03:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> if you have, just 'sudo apt-get install kdelibs4-dev'
[03:55] <wasp_ems> ok
[03:55] <CheeseBurgerMan> Now download the source
[03:56] <wasp_ems> CheeseBurgerMan: ok done
[03:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> Extract it to somewhere
[03:57] <wasp_ems> done
[03:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> now navigate to the directoy you extracted it to in a console
[03:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> 'cd path/to/directory/'
[03:57] <wasp_ems> done
[03:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> now run './configure'
[03:58] <wasp_ems> ok
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> now 'make'
[03:59] <wasp_ems> it is still configuring
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> Well, after it configures, run make. ;)
[03:59] <wasp_ems> ok
[04:00] <CheeseBurgerMan> After that's done run 'sudo make install'
[04:01] <wasp_ems> done
[04:01] <wasp_ems> wait casue it has some errors
[04:01] <wasp_ems> i will re do the whole thing
[04:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> No, wait
[04:02] <wasp_ems> ok
[04:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> Try running 'sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev'
[04:02] <viator> does the update manager work in kde
[04:02] <viator> or should i say is there a kde equivalent
[04:03] <crimsun> adept is.
[04:03] <wasp_ems> done
[04:03] <ArthurB> adept
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> Then try running './configure && make && sudo make install'
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> which runs all three commands without you having to type them one after another. :)
[04:03] <viator> im talking about the thing that tells you you have updates
[04:03] <viator> in gnome
[04:03] <ice_1963> Dapper is installed :0)
[04:04] <ArthurB> yes, and    make; make clean; make; make clean; make; make install provides confortable heat to your room
[04:05] <wasp_ems> CheeseBurgerMan: ok done
[04:05] <viator> make; make insane
[04:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> wasp_ems: OK, then go to Control Center > Appearance & Themes > Window Decorations and 'Crystal' should appear. :)
[04:05] <ice_1963> text base is better for installing dapper
[04:05] <produkt> how is dapper?
[04:05] <wasp_ems> CheeseBurgerMan: ok thanx allot
[04:06] <viator> or emerge insanity?
[04:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> wasp_ems: NP
[04:06] <viator> dapper is good
[04:06] <ice_1963> yes i is:)
[04:06] <produkt> upgrading to it now, almost half way there
[04:06] <viator> im using it but not on ubuntu or kubuntu
[04:06] <wasp_ems> CheeseBurgerMan: perfect..thanx 10 times more:)
[04:06] <viator> nor xubuntu
[04:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> wasp_ems: Heh, I'm using crystal too -- it's a great deco. :)
[04:07] <produkt> xubuntu?
[04:07] <ice_1963> xubuntu is good to
[04:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> produkt: Ubuntu with XFCE
[04:07] <viator> im running mepis
[04:07] <produkt> oooh ok
[04:07] <viator> with ubuntu dapper base
[04:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> Does it? I thought it used the breezy base.
[04:10] <ice_1963> i have dapper installed now can i get the driver for nvidia ?
[04:11] <ice_1963> nvidia-glx nvidia-settings
[04:14] <kev1n> in booting dapper..... i get to configuring network interfaces and it says it is done but then it freezes ... goes no further
[04:14] <kev1n> any ideas anyone
[04:15] <savedR> I got a problem.
[04:15] <savedR> With wlan0.
[04:15] <savedR> I don't know how to configer the darn thing.
[04:16] <savedR> I've successfully installed a WinXP driver with ndiswrapper and
[04:16] <savedR> run sudo ndiswrapper -m..
[04:16] <savedR> ..but ifconfig and iwconfig still don't show wlan0.
[04:16] <savedR> hah, I said "configer". SB configure. :D
[04:17] <viator> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:17] <ice_1963> :)
[04:18] <ice_1963> brb
[04:18] <wasp_ems> CheeseBurgerMan: thanx allot for everything..good night
[04:20] <savedR> Absolutely nothing happens.
[04:20] <savedR> I just get another command prompt.
[04:20] <savedR> Doesn't even call for user password; I can do it without "sudo".
[04:21] <viator> is this a broadcome  chipset?
[04:21] <viator> maybe a linksys
[04:22] <viator> im not expert on networks ans ESPECIALLY not ndiswrapper
[04:22] <viator> but i have used it before
[04:22] <savedR> It's PrismGT-based.
[04:23] <savedR> It's an SMC card, SMC 2802W.
[04:23] <savedR> Supposed to work with ndiswrapper.
[04:23] <savedR> Like, my problem is, do I have to do anything to actually get wlan0 config-d?
[04:23] <savedR> Right now Networking shows a single disabled interface, eth0.
[04:24] <savedR> And I can't enable it, because when I hit Administrator Mode button, it asks for my password, then doesn't do anything at all.
[04:24] <Hobbsee> savedR: what does ndiswrapper -l say?
[04:24] <savedR> I mean, just goes right back out of Admin Mode.
[04:24] <viator> you need to tell it what the issid is and  a few other things
[04:24] <Hobbsee> and use kdesu kcontrol instead of system settings
[04:24] <viator> essid
[04:24] <savedR> Says: "Installed ndis drivers:"
[04:24] <savedR> "2802w driver present, hardware present
[04:25] <Hobbsee> right, so it should show up...
[04:25] <Hobbsee> you can use sudo dhclient eth0
[04:25] <Hobbsee> to get the wired connection working
[04:25] <savedR> Thing is, I don't have a wired adapter installed.
[04:25] <savedR> Just the wireless.
[04:26] <viator> sudo ifconfig wlano up   ?maybe
[04:27] <viator> or try ifup wlan0
[04:27] <savedR> K..
[04:28] <viator> !ndiswrapper
[04:28] <ubotu> well, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[04:28] <savedR> Tried sudo ifconfig wlan0 up.
[04:28] <savedR> "wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"
[04:28] <Hobbsee> savedR: oh ok
[04:30] <savedR> Tried sudo ifup wlan0.
[04:30] <savedR> "Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0.
[04:30] <savedR> Tried it with eth0 just for kicks, got the same thing.
[04:32] <viator> yeah if you do iwlist scan
[04:32] <viator> what does it say
[04:32] <viator> no wireless ?
[04:32] <viator> interface doesnt support scanning or somthing
[04:33] <savedR> How do I do iwlist?
[04:33] <savedR> Tried to find a /? --? -? flag, nothing on iwlist.
[04:33] <savedR> Like, I don't know what option to use.
[04:34] <viator> type iwlist scan
[04:34] <savedR> Only lists lo "Interface doesn't support scanning" and eth0 "No scan results".
[04:35] <savedR> It's just absolutely refusing to even see wlan0.
[04:35] <viator> hmmm
[04:35] <savedR> And, if I could, I'd enable eth0, but nothing I'm trying's working.
[04:35] <savedR> I wonder if it treats wlan0 as an alias for eth0, since my PCI wireless adapter's the only one installed.
[04:35] <viator> lo        Interface doesn't support scanning.......eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning
[04:36] <savedR> For my eth0 it says "No scan results".
[04:36] <viator> yours didnt say doesnt support scanning
[04:36] <viator> weird
[04:36] <savedR> And if I modprobe eth0, it says "FATAL: eth0 not found."
[04:36] <savedR> But if I modprobe wlan0, it shows no error message.
[04:36] <viator> eth0 isnt a module
[04:37] <savedR> Shouldn't it list my access devices in /dev/ ?
[04:37] <viator> try doing sudo ifup eth0 for shits and giggles
[04:38] <savedR> "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0."
[04:38] <viator> do you have a regualr card?
[04:39] <viator> wired etherenet i mean
[04:40] <savedR> Yeah...
[04:41] <savedR> Is wired supported heavier?
[04:42] <viator> always
[04:42] <viator> but i  was wondwering why eth0 was there if you had only a wireless card
[04:42] <viator> the windows driver you have
[04:43] <viator> you only have 2 files in the folder right
[04:43] <savedR> Yep, 2802W.inf and the sys file.
[04:43] <viator> i had a hell of a time with drivers
[04:43] <viator> only a certain one would work
[04:44] <viator> and they were all supposed to be for the same card
[04:46] <justanotheruser> i was just asking myself, is there a reason why some options after a command have to be given with double - instead of just one -?
[04:47] <savedR> I saw something about that viator, I may try the Win2000 drivers, etc.
[04:47] <savedR> Could even try Win98 drivers, right? They should be 32-bit, shouldn't they?
[04:47] <savedR> I mean, Win95 might not be, but..
[04:48] <viator> yes
[04:48] <viator> i found a driver on their ftp server
[04:48] <viator> linksys's server that is
[04:49] <savedR> Yes, but Linksys is a GOOD company. :D
[04:49] <savedR> Hehe. Not much support for ol' Linux from SMC, I can tell you.
[04:50] <savedR> I did find the driver files from the ndiswrapper Sourceforge site for my card, though.
[04:50] <savedR> And, now that I'm looking at the files, the WinXP drivers use a differently-named .sys file than the drivers
[04:50] <savedR> for all other OS's.
[04:51] <savedR> So, I bet if I grab Win2000, it may work. The sourceforge page for ndiswrapper said someone got the card to work under Gentoo.
[04:51] <viator> modprobe -r prism54
[04:52] <viator> try that
[04:52] <viator> then
[04:52] <viator> modprobe ndiswrapper
[04:52] <savedR> k.
[04:53] <savedR> Just removed prism54, had to sudo. Just a sec, trying modprobe ndiswrapper.
[04:53] <davix> when I came back home I have found that my pc has halted and didn't respond to anything. any guesses? i've just recently installd kubuntu dapper, before I was with ubuntu hoary and kubuntu breezy and it never happend
[04:53] <davix> my guess is acpi stuff, could be
[04:53] <davix> ?
[04:54] <savedR> viator, did modprobe ndiswrapper, nothing happened.
[04:54] <savedR> Got a new command prompt on a new line.
[04:54] <viator> now what does ndiswrapper -l say?
[04:55] <Hobbsee> savedR: yes, but did the card start flashing?
[04:55] <savedR> The LED's?
[04:55] <viator> yeah
[04:56] <Hobbsee> yes
[04:56] <savedR> No LED response.
[04:56] <savedR> Now, ndiswrapper -l returns
[04:56] <savedR> "Installed drivers:"
[04:56] <viator> are the lights even lit up?
[04:56] <savedR> Nope.
[04:56] <savedR> "2802w    Invalid driver!"
[04:57] <viator> hmm maybe its installed wrong?
[04:57] <savedR> So, remove and reinstall it?
[04:57] <davix> when I came back home I have found that my pc has halted and didn't respond to anything. any guesses? i've just recently installd kubuntu dapper, before I was with ubuntu hoary and kubuntu breezy and it never happend?
[04:57] <davix> anyone
[04:57] <davix> ?
[04:58] <viator> yes
[04:58] <savedR> k.
[04:58] <viator> makes sure you put the exact location and name of the file
[04:59] <savedR> Yeah, i've been moving it to /home/(my username) and going ndiswrapper -i ~/(file).inf
[04:59] <mark---> So, are any of you using the 6.06 LTS Beta? I want to choose a Kubuntu for my notebook...
[04:59] <Hobbsee> mark---: yeah, i am
[04:59] <viator> ndiswrapper -e drivername
[05:00] <mark---> Hobbsee: do you like it?
[05:00] <Hobbsee> mark---: yeah, then again, i've been using it fully since...january or so...
[05:01] <mark---> Hobbsee: would that probably be my main choice, then, for a notebook as a desktop environment?
[05:01] <Hobbsee> notebook
[05:02] <viator> what kind of notebook
[05:02] <viator> ?
[05:03] <mark---> Dell, 14 inch, 8100.
[05:03] <viator> hmmnever used a dell
[05:03] <mark---> It's been running Kanotix just fine.
[05:03] <viator> i dont use their desktops either because of propreitary harware
[05:04] <viator> non standard power supplies etc
[05:04] <viator> excellen mark
[05:04] <mark---> I have run Breezy on my PowerBook for about 7 months just fine, but no flash from macromedia ;(
[05:04] <mark---> I agree about Dell.
[05:04] <mark---> But the Dell is working so...
[05:05] <viator> hey if you have it and it works thats greatg
[05:05] <mark---> What do you guys think are the higher quality notebooks for Linux?
[05:05] <viator> well it used to always be ibm
[05:05] <viator> thinkpads
[05:05] <viator> always worked well
[05:05] <viator> after that  i would goto hp
[05:06] <mark---> It does seem that Linux users with Thinkpads are happy with them, rugged, lots of choices for accessories like batteries.
[05:06] <viator> the only thing on alot of hp's thats annoying is boradcome wireless
[05:06] <viator> -e
[05:07] <viator> but not that theyve reverse engineered that it should be fine for most
[05:07] <Hobbsee> viator: toshiba a10 satellite.  it tends to overheat.
[05:07] <Hobbsee> when running high graphic games on it...
[05:07] <Hobbsee> fine for kubuntu though
[05:09] <viator> yeah im no gamer
[05:09] <viator> so linux is great for me
[05:10] <Hobbsee> Sysinfo for 'sarah': Linux 2.6.15-20-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Mobile Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.40GHz at 2394 MHz (4790 bogomips), HD: 9/36GB, RAM: 449/487MB, 90 proc's, 2.39h up
[05:10] <Hobbsee> viator: system specs :P ^
[05:10] <viator> where you get all thatr info?
[05:10] <viator> uname?
[05:10] <viator> -a
[05:10] <viator> ?
[05:12] <Hobbsee> viator: /exec sysinfo
[05:12] <Hobbsee> if you're using konv
[05:14] <farticus> Anyone here running LTS beta yet?
[05:14] <Hobbsee> farticus: yes
[05:14] <farticus> How's it working for you? Any improvements over Flight 6?
[05:15] <Hobbsee> working pretty well...seems a little improved - hard to tell though
[05:16] <farticus> The question is: do I need to download the CD to upgrade, or what? I'm running Flight 6...
[05:17] <[Nirvana] > farticus: dist-upgrade
[05:18] <farticus> [Nirvana] : thanks!
[05:27] <farticus> Anyone here fax stuff in KDE?
[05:28] <viator> faxing is another thing on the list of things that arent supoorted very well in linux
[05:28] <farticus> Shoot... I really need to fax something!
[05:28] <Snake__> Is it possible to use kate on windows?
[05:28] <viator> snake not yet
[05:28] <Snake__> it has to be..
[05:29] <farticus> Maybe if KDE ran under Cygwin...
[05:29] <viator> well maybe if you used cygwin or whatever
[05:29] <Snake__> :-/
[05:29] <viator> you CAN fax
[05:29] <viator> but i dont know if your harware will be supported well
[05:30] <farticus> well, I have an IBM Thinkpad T30 with some sort of AC'97 compliant modem...
[05:30] <farticus> I don't think it is a Winmodem, but I'm not sure.
[05:31] <farticus> Snake__: Check out http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/ it looks like an old version of KDE, but it will run (along with Kate) under Windows
[05:31] <Snake__> farticus: I dont want to run all of kde tho :-/
[05:31] <Snake__> Just kate, its a great progtam
[05:31] <viator> TRY KFAX?
[05:32] <farticus> I'm using KdeprintFax... Kfax is just a fax viewer.
[05:32] <viator> I SEE
[05:32] <farticus> The problem isn't with the modem, as far as I can tell.
[05:33] <farticus> When I try to fax a file, it tells me that it can't find the file. The file obviously is there, so I don't know what the problem is.
[05:34] <farticus> Unfortunately no one at the KDE channel seems willing to help.
[05:34] <viator> MAYBE ITS THE format?
[05:35] <farticus> I've tried both PS and PDF, to no avail. PS is what is required by KdeprintFax.
[05:35] <mark---> I'm trying to learn to use bittorent. I launch and then the app asks for my 'meta file'. What's that?
[05:36] <farticus> mark---: What client are you using?
[05:36] <[Nirvana] > mark---: to download using bittorrent, you need to first specify a .torrent meta file containing the file you wish to download
[05:36] <mark---> It just says bit torent, It's breezy on ppc
[05:36] <viator> http://www.hylafax.org/content/Main_Page
[05:37] <viator> thts  cool
[05:37] <[Nirvana] > mark---: OK, what bittorrent software do you have?
[05:37] <mark---> please hold...
[05:37] <farticus> viator: thanks, I'll try that..
[05:39] <[Nirvana] > mark---: what I mean is what do you install using adept/apt-get?
[05:39] <[Nirvana] > mark---: what *did* you install ^^
[05:39] <mark---> the distro came with bittorent.
[05:39] <mark---> i'm checking using synaptic to see what I've got.
[05:40] <[Nirvana] > mark---: alright, for simplicity, I suggest downloading and using BitTornado (quite ugly) or Ktorrent (pretty) bittorrent clients
[05:40] <mark---> It's just bittorrent from  Homepage: http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/
[05:41] <gary_> synaptic is better then adept i think
[05:41] <[Nirvana] > yes ^
[05:41] <mark---> OK, I'll browse with synaptic and pick a bittorrent client.
[05:41] <mark---> yes, synaptic is the way to go.
[05:41] <sheldongl> how is synaptic better?
[05:42] <mark---> well, it seems easier to use, and clearer interface.
[05:42] <farticus> And anyway, Adept doesn't work on my Kubuntu install for some odd reason.
[05:42] <mark---> CLI apt-get and dpkg are excellent though also.
[05:42] <gary_> well use it you will find out :)
[05:43] <[Nirvana] > TBH I use adept when I need a quick GUI, but mostly I use apt-get
[05:43] <sheldongl> aptitude is nice
[05:43] <gary_> yes it is
[05:53] <[Nirvana] > does anyone know if the free Ubuntu CD's are actually free in Canada? (ie: no tax, holding fee, etc) I'm in Ontario btw.
[05:54] <BobLoblaw> i dont know, but i had a guy at work bring a box in one day
[05:54] <BobLoblaw> why not just DL it ? much less hassle.
[05:54] <Snake__> [Nirvana] : I believe they ship anywhere free
[05:59] <[Nirvana] > Snake__: 128K connection, not very speedy
[05:59] <Snake__> ahhh tru.dat
[06:00] <[Nirvana] > Snake__: I am downloading a Kubuntu DVD though, just could use an Ubuntu CD for a quick install.
[06:00] <Snake__> [Nirvana] : why the DVD?
[06:00] <mark---> Nirvana: I downloaded Ktorrent and I think I'm catching on although there is no documentation. Thanks.
[06:00] <[Nirvana] > mark---: If you need help ask...
[06:01] <Snake__> [Nirvana] : "State/Province:"
[06:01] <Snake__> I assume that means canada
[06:01] <Snake__> and its in the list, so it should be free :)
[06:03] <[Nirvana] > I just hope it fits in the mailbox so I don't have to ask for a drive to pick it up
[06:10] <edgard> 0
[06:14] <[Nirvana] > and my mouse has lost sync again :(
[06:14] <mutant3> hi there
[06:14] <mutant3> I have a problem with the aMule 2.1.1. I just compiled the sources (after install wxGtk 2.6.3) and now I have this error when i try to load aMule
[06:14] <mutant3> $ amule
[06:14] <mutant3> amule: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2_adv-2.6.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:15] <mutant3> all that in Kubuntu 5.10
[06:15] <mutant3> does anyone have the same problem?
[06:16] <[Nirvana] > was there any errors in building?
[06:16] <farticus> it sounds like the shared libs aren't properly installed
[06:16] <mutant3> not error on bulding
[06:17] <[Nirvana] > do you have libwxgtk2.6-dev?
[06:17] <mutant3> yes,
[06:17] <mutant3>  sudo apt-cache search libwx 2.6
[06:17] <mutant3> Password:
[06:17] <mutant3> libwxgtk2.6-0 - wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ runtime)
[06:17] <mutant3> libwxgtk2.6-dbg - wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ development)
[06:17] <mutant3> libwxgtk2.6-dev - wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ development)
[06:18] <[Nirvana] > actually, try find / -name libwx_gtk2_adv-2.6
[06:19] <mutant3> let's see....
[06:19] <[Nirvana] > you may have to sudo it
[06:20] <mutant3> yes, is searching...
[06:22] <Search4Lancer> how do I get libvisual? is it a package?
[06:23] <[Nirvana] > is it a visualization pkg?
[06:24] <mutant3> didn't find it
[06:24] <Search4Lancer> nevermind, I found it in Adept
[06:24] <[Nirvana] > libvisual0.2 - Audio visualization framework
[06:24] <[Nirvana] > mutant3: do you have Osmo Salmaas (I don't know his name) repository? You should apt-get build-dep amule from it
[06:25] <mutant3> nop. i will search that repository
[06:26] <[Nirvana] > one sec
[06:26] <[Nirvana] > I have it
[06:26] <mutant3> Oh, thanks
[06:27] <[Nirvana] > # Osmo Salomas CVS amule packages (packages, GPG key: 70188C3B)
[06:27] <[Nirvana] > deb http://koti.mbnet.fi/~ots/ubuntu breezy/
[06:27] <[Nirvana] > # Osmo Salomas CVS amule packages (sources, GPG key: 70188C3B)
[06:27] <[Nirvana] > deb-src http://koti.mbnet.fi/~ots/ubuntu breezy/
[06:28] <[Nirvana] > you might want to add the GPG for it, because when you apt-get update and you don't have a GPG key, it errors thinking the packages are unsafe
[06:29] <[Nirvana] > to add the key: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 70188C3B; gpg --export --armor 70188C3B | sudo apt-key add -
[06:29] <mutant3> Oh, i have that repository. i will try
[06:31] <[Nirvana] > sudo apt-get clean, then sudo apt-get build-dep amule, then sudo apt-get source amule, then cp /var/cache/apt/archives/*.* /whatever/dir/you/wanna/build/in
[06:32] <[Nirvana] > and with that I am going to bed.
[06:33] <mutant3> thank you
[06:41] <pappua> Can some one please help me in compiling KDE4 or atlease a small application in KDE I would like to contribute to KDE.  I am a java programmer and am learning c++(QT).  I woud like to contribute to KDE
[06:42] <pappua> Hello Any body
[06:43] <pappua> Hello
[06:43] <mutant3> hi. i cant help you. sorry
[06:44] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: ping?
[06:45] <pappua> ping?
[06:46] <pappua> can atlease point out to me in the right direction
[06:46] <davix> is there an audio multi tracking recording app for linux?
[06:49] <mutant3> there is a linux distro for musicians
[06:49] <mutant3> http://www.musix.org.ar/
[06:49] <mutant3> from argentina
[06:54] <davix> mutant3, yes, but I like my distro, thanks though :)
[06:54] <mutant3> i know
[06:55] <mutant3> but you can see the apps on that distro
[06:56] <davix> yes, I can, thanks.
[06:59] <monduntu> ls
[06:59] <mutant3> lol
[07:05] <gleesond> anyone know how to fix KDM.... it works after a reboot but if I try to logout it always locks up... and I cant get a vertual terminal to kill it so I end up having to reboot if I want to switch users
[07:06] <gleesond> I guess I don't know where to start looking it fix this problem
[07:06] <stan_> does anyone know how to make kubuntu to perform PC shut down when I click 'Power' button? Kubuntu doesn't seem to react to this button at all, however Windows works as it's supposed to
[07:09] <mutant3> gleesond what kde are you using it?
[07:09] <mutant3> i had that problem on kde 3.4.2 i think, but on mandriva
[07:10] <mutant3> when i did an upgrade to next kde version, the bug was fixed
[07:19] <gleesond> the kde with dapper
[07:32] <poimen> someone using dapper beta?
[07:32] <ice_1963> i was
[07:32] <poimen> u installed from the live cd or the install one?
[07:32] <ice_1963> text base
[07:33] <poimen> I see...
[07:33] <poimen> I was thinking of installing it...
[07:33] <aeon17x> poimen: try the live CD first
[07:34] <poimen> I was using kubuntu 5.10 with kde 2.5.2
[07:34] <poimen> 3.5.2**
[07:34] <poimen> I think there will be no diference
[07:34] <poimen> in looks
[07:51] <DeadS0ul> hello
[07:58] <mutant3> hello
[07:59] <Shiny> anyone know a FOOS linux-ey app, that'll take a midi and display as a score?
[08:02] <DeadS0ul> rosegarden?
[08:09] <DeadS0ul> holy crap, big update for dapper flight 6 today
[08:19] <boga> ?
[08:24] <ciph^> hi..ive been looking for an answer to this question for a couple of hours now.  is it possible for prelink to cause kubuntu to no longer work..as in i can't even login at all?
[08:34] <DeadS0ul> a ..prelink?
[08:35] <ciph^> yea.
[08:35] <DeadS0ul> sorry I dunno =\
[08:35] <ciph^> well, thanks anyway
[08:36] <DeadS0ul> you could tryu asking in #linuxhelp on undernet, they know the guts of linux pretty well
[08:37] <ciph^> k, will do
[08:41] <Den> Hi - Can I get some help with Debian Etch & KDE??
[08:41] <Den> Hi - Mouse help please?  I just installed Etch + KDE (apt install kde).  The mouse lacks proper acceleration, & I can't get it to accelerate by changing the control panel setting.  Suggestions?  Also, the touchpad doesn't work. Sony Vaio Laptop.  sonypi driver is loaded.  Anyone heard about these kind of mouse problems?  Suggestions?
[08:47] <DeadS0ul> do you have syaptics installed?
[08:47] <DeadS0ul> synaptics even
[08:47] <DeadS0ul> ..btw try asking in #kde
[08:48] <Den> DeadS0ul: If you're question is to me, What is sysnaptics?
[08:48] <DeadS0ul> ksynaptics - A KDE application to configure Synaptics TouchPad
[08:50] <Den> DeadS0ul: Thx - I'll try that - Any other ideas why this occurs in Debian?  I don't have this problem with kubuntu
[08:51] <DeadS0ul> not really
[08:51] <DeadS0ul> it works fine with my note book but i used debian sid with xorg
[08:55] <puckman_afk> ?
[09:14] <Broxtor> Yesterday I upgraded my Dapper. When I restarded my computer this morning everything is smaller. All fonts are smaller, all icons on my desktop are smaller and it looks like all windows are look different also. Any idea what happened?
[09:19] <pax> Broxtor: maybe your resolution changed, double check it.
[09:20] <Broxtor> resolution is the same
[09:21] <pax> well, if it's font issue then you can make them bigger .. I don't want to suggest reconfiguring xorg before making simple user prefs changes
[09:22] <pax> don't you have kcontrol in kubuntu?
[09:22] <Broxtor> pax: It's not only the fonts that have changed.
[09:22] <ninniuzITA> hi
[09:22] <Broxtor> pax: My firefox theme look crappy now as well as my KDE windows.
[09:22] <ninniuzITA> how can I upgrade my kubuntu breezy to dapper?
[09:23] <cfraz89> ninniuzITA:
[09:23] <pax> Broxtor: find where you can change dpi in kubuntu, find out what you have there
[09:23] <cfraz89> change all the breezy to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:23] <cfraz89> and run sudo-apt get update
[09:23] <ninniuzITA> ok tnx
[09:23] <cfraz89> then sudo-apt get dist-upgrade
[09:23] <pax> if it's a small number like 72, make it 96
[09:23] <cfraz89> np
[09:24] <Broxtor> pax: any idea on where I might find that?
[09:24] <pax> I don't use kubuntu, but I'm sure it's somewhere in your kcontrol
[09:25] <cfraz89> kde doesnt allow setting of dpi
[09:25] <cfraz89> just paste:
[09:25] <cfraz89> Xft.dpi:96
[09:26] <cfraz89> into ~/.Xresources
[09:26] <pax> there, try that :-)
[09:26] <cfraz89> :)
[09:28] <Den> DeadS0ul: Does the synaptics touchpad get installed in Debian by a loadable module - lsmod?
[09:28] <pax> so how's kubuntu looking in dapper cfraz89?
[09:29] <n3tfury> i'm new to linux, but am running the newest dapper live cd.  had to manually mount my ntfs drives, but everything else was good to go.
[09:30] <cfraz89> pax: good !
[09:30] <pax> Den, what lappy are you using?
[09:31] <Den> pax: ? sony vaio?
[09:31] <ninniuzITA> cfraz89: trying what you said...but I'm noticing it would like to remove kde
[09:31] <cfraz89> the synaptics driver is an xorg driver i think
[09:31] <pax> I'm surprised you are specifying debian in your question and asking here .. are you using Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[09:31] <cfraz89> ninniuzITA: doesnt sound good
[09:32] <cfraz89> does it try to install a newer one?
[09:32] <Den> pax - no, DeadS0ul was helping me with debian ihn this channel
[09:32] <ninniuzITA> cfraz89: I have found a web page reporting this...and someone is saying to do this before "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[09:32] <pax> yes it is, and I don't have any problem wih synaptics touchpad on this inspiron 9300
[09:32] <ninniuzITA> cfraz89: before the dist-upgrade cause it says it gives kde a higher priority so that it will remain installed
[09:32] <cfraz89> oh ok
[09:33] <cfraz89> try it  i guess
[09:33] <Den> pax:  "it is" _what_?
[09:33] <cfraz89> gtg
[09:33] <pax> I answered cfraz89, when he said it's an xorg driver
[09:34] <Den> pax: Kubuntu works fine on this laptop, including touchpad & mouse acceleration - but those fail on Debian Ethch, which I'm trying to get running.
[09:35] <pax> I don't know what to suggest Den, sorry. ask in #ubuntu or check the forum
[09:35] <Den> pax: thx :)
[09:36] <Broxtor> cfraz89: pax: My fonts are back to original size now, but the rest still looks crappy.
[09:36] <pax> define 'the rest'?
[09:38] <Broxtor> "skins" on windows are gone and also my icons on the desktop are smaller
[09:39] <pax> I would try to change the themes, then switch back as first step ..
[09:41] <Broxtor> pax: switch back to current theme that is?
[09:41] <pax> I would just change the themes .. yeah of you like
[09:41] <pax> if*
[09:42] <pax> use the default themes to check everything is fine I guess
[09:43] <ninniuzITA> can anyone help me with breezy-dapper upgrade?
 change all the breezy to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list
 and run sudo-apt get update
 ok tnx
[09:46] <ninniuzITA> as I said it wants to delete kde
[09:46] <laszlok> ninniuzITA: whats the problem, its removing kde?
[09:46] <ninniuzITA> yes it would do so
[09:47] <DeadS0ul> wait don't do that
[09:47] <DeadS0ul> use the install cd
[09:47] <ninniuzITA> dont worry I have done nothing
[09:48] <ninniuzITA> DeadS0ul: how should I use it?
[09:51] <laszlok> ninniuzITA: do you have the package kubuntu-desktop installed?
[09:52] <ninniuzITA> well I guess so
[09:53] <ninniuzITA> let me check
[09:54] <ninniuzITA> nop it is not installed
[09:57] <laszlok> ninniuzITA: im not sure it does anything, but install it then try dist-upgrade again
[09:58] <ninniuzITA> ok trying
[09:58] <ninniuzITA> had to install akode first
[10:07] <ninniuzITA> laszlok: do you mean I should get kubuntu-desktop from dapper?
[10:09] <Murray_B> Hi!
[10:09] <laszlok> ninniuzITA: i meant get it from breezy, but either works i think
[10:10] <ninniuzITA> laszlok: I got it from breezy but it is still the same
[10:11] <Vge> http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/ <-- somebody can help me to install this app? when i download it and try to run it, it says "libborqt-6.9-qt2.3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"?
[10:12] <ninniuzITA> missing that library Vge?
[10:13] <Murray_B> I'm just thinking about switching over to kubuntu but I want to have kde 3.5.2. Is it possible to Install kubuntu 06.06 beta aand update to the final version later? Or are there any serious bugs and I shouldn't do that?
[10:13] <Vge> im checking atm
[10:13] <dumbkiwi> Murray_B: Yes, and no.
[10:13] <BobLoblaw> whats in 3.5.2 thats a must have?
[10:16] <Murray_B> BobLoblaw: Better HTML-rendering and my existing 3.5.2-config ;-)
[10:16] <BobLoblaw> Murray_B: ah :)
[10:16] <Murray_B> dumbkiwi: Thanks
[10:17] <dumbkiwi> Vge: I think that's a lib from qt-2.3, which is quite old.  How badly do you need that app?
[10:18] <Murray_B> BobLoblaw: And there is a bug gone which got on my nerves for years... I'm using knetload which uses 2 places in the system-area. Since 3.5.2 they are always next to each other.
[10:18] <Vge> dumbkiwi: well i guess i justt run it trought vmware
[10:21] <henkepenk> Hey
[10:21] <henkepenk> Does someone know the default root password?
[10:21] <henkepenk> cause i need to install java,
[10:21] <henkepenk> But i cant without the root
[10:22] <Zaire> lol root account is disabled so thats kinda a good question and one Ive been wondering about
[10:22] <henkepenk> =\
[10:22] <henkepenk> So then i can't install java:s
[10:22] <cfraz89> henkepenk: use sudo -s
[10:22] <bhna> !root
[10:22] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:22] <cfraz89> and type your own password
[10:22] <henkepenk> ok
[10:22] <henkepenk> ty
[10:23] <Vge> root password is the first added user password
[10:23] <henkepenk> sudo -s needs an password
[10:24] <henkepenk> !root is not working =\
[10:24] <ubotu> ...but root is already something else...
[10:24] <henkepenk> ill check the link
[10:24] <cfraz89> your password
[10:24] <BobLoblaw> its your password
[10:24] <henkepenk> ok
[10:24] <Zaire> so how do you get close to or 100% compatability with Nvidia on Kubuntu it doesn't like my FX 5200
[10:24] <BobLoblaw> however you logged into this machine
[10:24] <cfraz89> Zaire: i have a 5200
[10:24] <cfraz89> go
[10:24] <cfraz89> it works
[10:25] <Zaire> hmmmm whenever I try to do anything in KDE or gnome on it after I login it locks up
[10:25] <cfraz89> try dissabling renderaccel
[10:25] <cfraz89> it is enabled by default in newest drivers
[10:25] <cfraz89> in xorg.conf
[10:26] <cfraz89> Option "RenderAccel" "False"
[10:26] <Zaire> I don't have an acces option ....so I have to add it?
[10:26] <Zaire> accel*
[10:26] <kameron> how do i disable the sound server at startup?
[10:29] <Zaire> hmmm i'll have to get a re-partitioning utility so I can section off space for kubuntu anyone know of any good ones I could look into?
[10:31] <ninniuzITA> qtparted?
[10:31] <dumbkiwi> kameron: which sound server?
[10:32] <dumbkiwi> kameron: arts?
[10:36] <kameron> dumbkiwi: i suppose so, yes.
[10:36] <dumbkiwi> kameron: are you using kde?
[10:36] <kameron> yes.
[10:36] <Zaire> kde rock gnomes well gnome lol
[10:37] <dumbkiwi> kameron: in the main menu, open System Settings, then click on sound & multimedia.  Then uncheck the "enable the sound system" box.
[10:38] <morrow> hmmm anyone using baghira with dapper here?
[10:38] <dumbkiwi> Zaire: fdisk
[10:38] <kameron> dumbkiwi: alrighty
[10:38] <dumbkiwi> Zaire: or do you need to resize non-destructively?
[10:42] <ninniuzITA> dumbwiki: what's wrong with qtparted?
[10:42] <ninniuzITA> dumbkiwi: what's wrong with qtparted?
[10:42] <ninniuzITA> lol
[10:43] <Zaire> I need to resize so that I can still boot into crappy windows when I need to lol
[10:43] <dumbkiwi> ninniuzITA: I haven't had a lot of success with it.  Does it do non-destructive resizing?
[10:44] <ninniuzITA> dumbkiwi: well it seems it is a partition magic clone...hence it should
[10:45] <Zaire> Ive actually seen quite a few bug reports on the same issue Im having with the crash and I narrowed it down Using Nvidia+crash and got a whole lot of results all the ones I read similar
[10:45] <ninniuzITA> Zaire: what kind of crash?
[10:46] <Zaire> total system lock up
[10:46] <ninniuzITA> wow
[10:46] <ninniuzITA> it is working fine here
[10:46] <Zaire> dunno if its any of my other hardware but ubuntu and kubuntu both crash on me :S
[10:46] <dumbkiwi> Zaire: have you tried the nv drivers?  Do they produce the same crash?
[10:47] <Zaire> I tried to install the driver I downloaded and burnt to cd and it couldn't even install them
[10:47] <dumbkiwi> Zaire: what driver?
[10:48] <Zaire> 1.0-7474 I think and also 1.0-7676
[10:50] <dumbkiwi> Zaire: Do you have the kernel sources installed?  Do you have a working development tool-chain?  ie gcc, make and the like?
[10:50] <Zaire> gcc yea not sure about make and as for kernel sources I tried to apt-get them and came up empty handed
[10:50] <ninniuzITA> Zaire: nv is the default one...you should have it installed already
[10:50] <Zaire> yep
[10:51] <ninniuzITA> Zaire: did you read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia ?
[10:52] <dumbkiwi> Zaire: so what version of the nvidia drivers do you have installed at the moment?
[10:52] <Zaire> well at the moment Im in XP and its taking the whole HD but the one I usually use is 1.0-7676
[10:53] <dumbkiwi> Zaire: so you don't have linux installed at all?  I'm confused.
[10:53] <Zaire> no I did but Ive been having issues with the distro's I was using
[10:55] <dumbkiwi> Zaire: perhaps you should install ubuntu, and then come back so people can help you on a live system
[10:55] <Zaire> cept I can't run it without immediate crash
[10:55] <dumbkiwi> Zaire: But have you tried ubuntu?
[10:55] <Zaire> yep
[10:56] <Zaire> Ive tried Redhat 9 mandriva 10.2 mandrake 9.2 Suse 10.1 64 bit kubuntu i386 ubuntu amd64 debian and the only one I had
[10:56] <Zaire> mandriva and debian were the only stable ones
[10:56] <dumbkiwi> Zaire: have you tried dapper?
[10:57] <Zaire> nope was wondering if it may work better though
[10:57] <dumbkiwi> Zaire: which is the latest ubuntu
[10:57] <Zaire> ?
[10:57] <dumbkiwi> Zaire: could do.  Try the live cd, see what happens.
[10:58] <Zaire> would be easier then a full download which would take me 7 hours on my connection lol
[11:01] <Zaire> so with the option thing it goes like this with the space between render and false right? Option "renderaccel" "false"
[11:01] <DeadS0ul> xcompmgr doesn't play nice with kde
[11:02] <dumbkiwi> DeadS0ul: kde has its own composite manager called kompmgr
[11:02] <DeadS0ul> oh
[11:03] <DeadS0ul> don't see it in kubuntu's repositories though
[11:04] <dumbkiwi> It's part of kwin.  Go into system settings, click on desktop, then Window Behaviour, and there's a tab for Translucency.
[11:04] <DeadS0ul> thats' what I used
[11:04] <dumbkiwi> DeadS0ul: You can configure all sorts of things from there.
[11:04] <DeadS0ul> it crashes with kopete
[11:04] <dumbkiwi> what crashes?
[11:05] <DeadS0ul> X
[11:05] <DeadS0ul> =(
[11:05] <dumbkiwi> As in back at a tty?
[11:05] <DeadS0ul> pretty much, kdm restarts
[11:05] <dumbkiwi> What video card?
[11:06] <DeadS0ul> nvidia 6600
[11:06] <Zaire> I knew it lol
[11:06] <DeadS0ul> using nvidia kernel drivers and X
[11:06] <DeadS0ul> heh
[11:06] <dumbkiwi> DeadS0ul: dapper?
[11:06] <DeadS0ul> Zaire: 1 Deads0ul : -$100 for new video card
[11:06] <DeadS0ul> yeap, dapper
[11:07] <Zaire> hmmmm so I guess dapper won't help my prob there either lol
[11:07] <DeadS0ul> hehehe probably not
[11:07] <DeadS0ul> bet it's nvidia's fault
[11:07] <dumbkiwi> DeadS0ul: Sorry, I run gentoo on the only box with an nvidia card, and that runs fine.
[11:08] <Zaire> FX5200 in mine wanna upgrade to X800 XL though lol
[11:08] <dumbkiwi> DeadS0ul: I run kubuntu on my laptop with intel i915gm, and kompmgr runs very stable on there also.
[11:08] <dumbkiwi> Zaire: I've got an FX5200 running very well on gentoo.
[11:09] <Zaire> maybe but mine also ran on debian but not on kubuntu so theres a compatibility difference atleast thats what Ive been finding between distros
[11:10] <DeadS0ul> kubuntu is xorg 7.0, dunno bout debian sid..
[11:10] <dumbkiwi> My gentoo box runs xorg7.0
[11:11] <Zaire> dunno but my main issue with debian was its lack of compatibility with skype :S
[11:11] <dumbkiwi> DeadS0ul: Is kompmgr stable if you stay away from kopete?
[11:11] <DeadS0ul> yeap
[11:12] <DeadS0ul> well I install xcompmgr, and configured it in kcontrol -> Desktop ...
[11:12] <DeadS0ul> is kompmgr a frontend for xcompmrg?
[11:13] <dumbkiwi> DeadS0ul: no.  It's built into kwin.  A completely separate implementation.
[11:14] <bhna> DeadS0ul: kompmgr is an other compmanager
[11:14] <Zaire> well anyway I gtg laters all
[11:14] <DeadS0ul> net split eh
[11:19] <Zaba_> hey people
[11:20] <Zaba_> can anyone help me?
[11:20] <smanne> hvorfor kan jeg ikke hre mp3
[11:20] <jpatrick> !nl
[11:20] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[11:22] <bhna> i think the window-dekoration in dapper should have round corners in upper left and right corners
[11:23] <ninHer> hi all
[11:23] <Zaba_> hi ninHer
[11:24] <ninHer> hi Zaba_
[11:24] <Zaba_> i need help with dapper on VMWare
[11:24] <Zaba_> can anyone help me?
[11:25] <ninHer> i 'm sorry Zaba_ VMWare is not my best
[11:25] <ccc_> jpatrick: that was norwegian, not dutch :)
[11:25] <ccc_> !no
[11:25] <ubotu> ccc_: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:27] <ccc_> smanne: try #ubuntu-no or #ubuntu-se / #kubuntu-se for norwegian/swedish
[11:27] <DeadS0ul> has anyone gotten lirc using a bttv remote working with dapper?
[11:29] <smanne> is ther a dk irc
[11:33] <ninHer> nickserv identify ninHer
[11:33] <ccc_> smanne: no :(
[11:33] <ccc_> ubotu: tell smanne about mp3
[11:34] <smanne> thanks ccc
[11:35] <smanne> i am new to linux
[11:35] <ninHer> welcome smanne
[11:35] <ccc_> welcome
[11:36] <smanne> tanks to all my eng is not so god
[11:37] <solan> can anyone help me? I'm looking for a way to make a link within a database...
[11:37] <ccc_> smanne: then try the swedish channels if you prefer that, they are active
[11:38] <solan> !norwegian
[11:38] <ubotu> solan: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:38] <solan> is there a norwegian channel active?
[11:43] <Flosoft> hey
[11:44] <cfraz89> hi
[11:44] <Flosoft> anyone experience the problenm that Xorg crashes when I open the K-Menu and want to open an app?
[11:44] <Flosoft> on Breezy
[11:45] <jpatrick> ccc_: oh
[11:45] <waterglass> hi, i've got a quick question on proftpd.. i installed it using the ubuntu guide, but how do i create users for the ftp? so people can log in with a username and password
[11:46] <ccc_> jpatrick: i was wrong too, it was danish. but no and dk are hard to separate in written form :)
[11:48] <[nige] > Hi all,
[11:49] <[nige] > I am having problems with myplayer plugin
[11:49] <[nige] > I can compile it but when I try and install it,I get the following error : http://pastebin.com/674900
[11:49] <[nige] > anyone maybe able to help?
[11:51] <davidhouse> hi guys. having big troubles configuring my local wireless network connection on my kubuntu laptop. KWifiManager thinks it's connected to the network, but i still have an empty routing table and obviously all outgoing requests fail.
[11:51] <davidhouse> i'm meant to be connected to my router which has IP 192.168.1.100, but pinging that fails. also, KWifiManager says "Local IP: unavailable", so i don't think it's connected properly.
[11:52] <cfraz89> davidhouse: i wouldnt use kwifimanager
[11:52] <cfraz89> try wlassistant
[11:52] <cfraz89> or if you are using dapper
[11:52] <cfraz89> knetworkmanager
[11:52] <davidhouse> cfraz89, can i install those w/o being connected to the internet?
[11:52] <cfraz89> no sorry
[11:52] <cfraz89> hmm
[11:53] <davidhouse> even plugging in an ethernet cable didn't work.
[11:53] <cfraz89> try running dhclient eth*
[11:53] <cfraz89> that should get it connected if everything is right on the wifi side
[11:54] <davidhouse> woo! :)
[11:54] <davidhouse> what did that do?
[11:54] <davidhouse> do i need to run it every time i turn my laptop on?
[11:54] <cfraz89> gets an ip from the dhcp server
[11:55] <cfraz89> well you can configure it to bring up network card on computer on
[11:55] <Flosoft> cfraz89: I have the same problem with my wifi card ... I want it to get an IP automatically on connect
[11:55] <cfraz89> ok
[11:55] <Flosoft> I use wifi-radar
[11:55] <Flosoft> but i'll try wlassistant
[11:55] <cfraz89> in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:55] <cfraz89> put
[11:55] <cfraz89> auto eth0
[11:55] <cfraz89> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[11:56] <Flosoft> well mine is wlan0
[11:56] <cfraz89> ok
[11:56] <cfraz89> yeah replace eth0 with your device
[11:56] <cfraz89> that wont count for wep or anything though
[11:57] <Flosoft> so if it uses WEP or WPA it doesn't work?
[11:57] <cfraz89> you can
[11:57] <cfraz89> theres more to it
[11:57] <cfraz89> if you want i can fetch it from my other computer
[11:57] <cfraz89> wont be long
[11:57] <Flosoft> sure
[11:57] <dmhouse|laptop> that would be appreciated :)
[11:57] <Flosoft> that would be great :)
[11:58] <dmhouse|laptop> in the mean time i'll get firefox and emacs installed, so i can survive.
[11:59] <cfraz89> zeroconf is so cool
[11:59] <Flosoft> zerocong?
[11:59] <Flosoft> *zeroconf?
[11:59] <cfraz89> zeroconf
[12:00] <Flosoft> whats that?
[12:00] <cfraz89> it is a way to publish services on a network
[12:00] <Flosoft> ah
[12:00] <cfraz89> so i share a directory from my other computer
[12:00] <cfraz89> and on my laptop it shows up as www servers
[12:00] <dmhouse|laptop> is there a list of package repos i should add?
[12:01] <cfraz89> universe and multiverse are good ones
[12:01] <cfraz89> ok :)
[12:01] <cfraz89> http://home.exetel.com.au/cfraz89/interfaces
[12:02] <cfraz89> is for my wireless network
[12:02] <cfraz89> if anyone wants to hack it lol it has my wep key in it :)
[12:02] <Flosoft> ah nice thanks
[12:02] <cfraz89> the ra0 bit shows how to use wep on login :)
[12:02] <Flosoft> not for the wep key .p
[12:03] <dmhouse|laptop> cfraz89: hmm, that's the same as my file.
[12:03] <cfraz89> really?
[12:03] <cfraz89> it doesnt work on login?
[12:03] <cfraz89> i mean boot?
[12:03] <dmhouse|laptop> well, mine is eth0 and doesn't have a wireless-channel, but yeah.
[12:04] <cfraz89> do you have an rt2500 by any chance?
[12:04] <dmhouse|laptop> nope.
[12:04] <Flosoft> cfraz89: Can it also then connect to hidden SSIDs?
[12:04] <cfraz89> yes
[12:04] <cfraz89> if you specify the ssid
[12:04] <Flosoft> and will the client wlassistant show the connection status?
[12:04] <dmhouse|laptop> mine also says "wireless-key1 s:whatever"
[12:04] <cfraz89> i think so
[12:04] <cfraz89> dont use s:
[12:04] <cfraz89> doesnt work
[12:04] <cfraz89> i tried it
[12:04] <cfraz89> i had to use the actual key
[12:05] <cfraz89> dmhouse, are you using dapper?
[12:05] <cfraz89> Flosoft, it does show connection status
[12:05] <cfraz89> if using dapper knetworkmanager is good
[12:05] <dmhouse|laptop> cfraz89: well, mine is not a hex key
[12:05] <cfraz89> it works with passphrases and connects on login
[12:05] <dmhouse|laptop> so the s: prefix is correct, i think
[12:05] <cfraz89> it doesnt work
[12:05] <cfraz89> i use a passphrase too
[12:06] <dmhouse|laptop> hmm.
[12:06] <cfraz89> the passphrase just generates a key
[12:06] <cfraz89> when i used s:<passphrase>
[12:06] <cfraz89> it generated the wrong key to use
[12:06] <cfraz89> so i had to dig up the actual genereted key and put it in
[12:06] <cfraz89> theres websites that can show you the hex key
[12:07] <cfraz89> http://www.powerdog.com/wepkey.cgi
[12:07] <cfraz89> put in your passphrase, it will show you the key to use
[12:09] <duff> hi people. got a small question..  got this external drive, formatted a reiser partition, and have my movie collector files (its a windows prog im using with wine).  ive made the file that holds my collection +x so i can open it directly into the app, but everytime i open it and close the app the perms reset the +x to -x .    what can i do ?
[12:09] <dmhouse|laptop> cfraz89: it gives me five keys. how do i know which one to use?
[12:09] <cfraz89> usually the first one
[12:09] <cfraz89> are using 128bit or 64bit?
[12:10] <sml> if I want to set-up my wireless network settings manually, which file do i modify?
[12:10] <dmhouse|laptop> cfraz89: heh, of course :) i think i'm on 128-bit WEP.
[12:10] <cfraz89> ok
[12:11] <dmhouse|laptop> sml, /etc/network/interfaces perhaps
[12:11] <cfraz89> for me the 128 bit key was right
[12:11] <Flosoft> to let WPA run is more difficult no?
[12:11] <dmhouse|laptop> yeah.
[12:11] <dmhouse|laptop> i'll have a go.
[12:11] <sml> dmhouse ... cool thanks :)
[12:11] <cfraz89> knetworkmanager does wpa easy
[12:11] <dmhouse|laptop> sml, hey, thank cfraz89. i didn't know before about 10 minutes ago :)
[12:11] <Flosoft> also with ndiswrapper cardss :S?
[12:11] <cfraz89> lol sorry
[12:12] <Flosoft> as I use the DLINK DWL-G520M (Mimo card) not officially supported by linux?
[12:12] <cfraz89> Flosoft: i think so
[12:12] <sml> dmhouse .. would you be able to post a couple of lines from your 'interfaces file'?
[12:12] <cfraz89> it uses wpa_supplicant in backend
[12:12] <dmhouse|laptop> sml, sure
[12:12] <sml> just to understand the config a bit :)
[12:12] <sml> ta
[12:12] <dmhouse|laptop> (although it would be easier to use a program to do this)
[12:13] <cfraz89> Flosoft: give it a go after you get to dapper
[12:13] <sml> dmhouse ... errr ... yes but I am using xubuntu
[12:13] <sml> i could always install live kubuntu and take a peek i guess :)
[12:14] <dmhouse|laptop> sml, http://pastebin.com/674917
[12:14] <dmhouse|laptop> sml, however, mine isn't completely working
[12:14] <dmhouse|laptop> you might want to try cfraz89's at http://home.exetel.com.au/cfraz89/interfaces
[12:15] <sml> hey thanks .. i wasn't expecting the format to be quite like that !
[12:17] <sml> ok .. time for a reboot to see if it works :)
[12:17] <sml> hopefully i'll see you soon
[12:17] <cfraz89> okie
[12:17] <cfraz89> good luck
[12:19] <dmhouse|laptop> cfraz89: i've got to dash but i just wanted to thank you for being so unbelievably helpful :)
[12:19] <cfraz89> lol np
[12:19] <dmhouse|laptop> cheers.
[12:23] <[nige] > anyone have a firefox 1.0.5 repository?
[12:43] <asraniel> hi, how can i change the dpi setting for kde? thanks
[12:45] <_admin> hi everyone
[12:46] <cfraz89> asraniel: make a file in your home called .Xresources
[12:46] <cfraz89> and paste into it:
[12:46] <cfraz89> Xft.dpi:96
[12:46] <_admin> doy you know if I can use gnome icon themes with kde?
[12:46] <cfraz89> not easily i think
[12:46] <cfraz89> asraniel: or whatever dpi you want to set to
[12:47] <asraniel> cfraz89: thank you, going to test that :-)
[12:47] <carsten> _admin: there is work on the way to make this possible: tango and portland
[12:47] <cfraz89> np
[12:49] <asraniel> works perfect :-D great, normal fonts again
[12:49] <cfraz89> cool
[12:51] <_admin> carsten: I heard about tango, but not portland
[12:51] <_admin> anyway, by the moment I just want gnome look icon theme, the default one or the industrial one for kde
[12:59] <Flosoft> hey
[01:01] <Flosoft> I installed wlassistant ... but does it support wpa?
[01:03] <alef0> Kubuntu Espresso seems to have some grave bugs. I crashes when the partitioner starts, and some people have lost their parition table in the process (seems I was lucky, it just didn't work on both of my computers): https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/espresso/+bug/40555 <-- maybe this should be in the /topic?
[01:03] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 40555 in Ubuntu "Kubuntu Expresso = Whiping Partition Table" [Normal,Unconfirmed] 
[01:03] <alef0> wow ^^
[01:04] <carsten> boy, that is a critical bug!
[01:05] <Flosoft> Knetworkmanager doesn't work ... it says it isn't running
[01:18] <vandenoever> hello, how is acpi support on kubuntu (dapper beta) these days? i read some reports that it was better on ubuntu
[01:18] <vandenoever> but i prefer kde
[01:21] <Flosoft> Knetworkmanager doesn't work ... it says it isn't running ... what can I do?
[01:21] <nagyv> vandenoever: I think it depends on your laptop. I use an asus, and its acpi is a piece of shit. But I don't know how it would work under ubuntu.
[01:22] <vandenoever> i've read reports that acpi on my laptop (dell x1) should be good
[01:22] <vandenoever> for ubuntu
[01:22] <vandenoever> i'll just try it i guess
[01:22] <Tm_T> pappua: ping
[01:23] <buz> apropos laptop, is anyone using kubuntu on a toshiba laptop?
[01:23] <buz> i can get everything but the acpi to work
[01:26] <Tm_T> pappua: poke me when you're around, and I'll help youwith kde4/qt4 issue ;)
[01:42] <Flosoft> hey ... how can I enable automatic get DHCP adress with Wireless Assistant when I connect
[02:02] <candyban> Hi guys
[02:02] <Flosoft> hey
[02:02] <Flosoft> how can I enable automatic get DHCP adress with Wireless Assistant when I connect
[02:03] <candyban> Does anyone know some (english) documentation how to get kubuntu working with xgl ?
[02:03] <candyban> Using dapper drake
[02:03] <bimberi> !xgl
[02:03] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[02:04] <candyban> ubotu: Thanks :)
[02:04] <ubotu> candyban: gern geschehen
[02:04] <candyban> ubotu: Vielen dank ;)
[02:04] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, candyban
[02:12] <candyban> bimberi: Apprearently it was you ... Thanks :)
[02:15] <Ilokaaaasu> when i use svideo to watch videos from tv the videoscreen is only blue, how to fix this ?
[02:21] <Anonymusius> hi
[02:21] <Flosoft> hi
[02:22] <Anonymusius> Do you have an good .exe executer for kubuntu
[02:22] <Anonymusius> For gamemaker
[02:23] <Flosoft> wine? wineX  ...
[02:23] <Anonymusius> thx
[02:23] <Flosoft> winex is now cedega
[02:25] <Anonymusius> is it free?
[02:25] <Skrot> !winex
[02:25] <ubotu> Skrot: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:26] <Flosoft> no
[02:26] <Flosoft> but there's a free trial
[02:26] <Anonymusius> Can you use directx in that trial?
[02:26] <Flosoft> yes afaik
[02:26] <Anonymusius> because Gamemaker uses that
[02:26] <Flosoft> it is made for gaming
[02:37] <ubuntu_> hy all, had anyone tried to install kubuntu daper from the live cd? the window of the installer sudnly disapear at step 5?anyone can help me?
[02:37] <freeflying-ibook> ubuntu_: it's known
[02:49] <vandenoever> freeflying-ibook: so one shouldn't/can't install kubuntu dapper beta from the live cd?
[02:49] <vandenoever> might as well stop downloading then
[02:50] <ubuntu_> y have the same prob
[02:50] <freeflying-ibook> vandenoever: you can use the livecd besides install it
[02:51] <vandenoever> freeflying-ibook: i wanted to evaluate acpi functionality
[02:51] <freeflying-ibook> vandenoever: livecdd can not work ?
[02:52] <vandenoever> well, can the livecd suspend to disk?
[02:52] <freeflying-ibook> vandenoever: may not
[02:53] <vandenoever> i would hope i does not, because it would have to write to disk for that
[02:53] <vandenoever> and it might overwrite another suspended state
[02:53] <vandenoever> so, i'll test plain ubuntu then
[02:54] <vandenoever> can i add kde after installing plain ubuntu easily?
[03:05] <ubuntu_> y have a process called partman _newlayo that's eating all of mi system resource , what is it ? if y kill him it will reapear with anouther pid
[03:06] <Vge> !mp3
[03:06] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[03:06] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:07] <Flosoft> how can I enable automatic get DHCP adress with Wireless Assistant when I connect
[03:23] <Flosoft> how do I reconfigure KDE?
[03:24] <Flosoft> well X
[03:24] <Flosoft> as it says $DISPLAY not set
[03:29] <_bbeck> Flosoft: to reconfigure the x server use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:29] <Vge>  i just noticed that my integraded speakers on hp laptop nx6110 dont work in dapper, any advice?
[03:31] <Flosoft> thx _bbeck
[03:33] <Flosoft> how can I set $DISPLAY ?
[03:37] <_bbeck> Flosoft: I don't know if this is what you're looking for, but you can set a shell variable by simply typing DISPLAY=value.  When I echo the DISPLAY variable on my computer I get :0.0
[04:00] <justanotheruser> when updating a svn version of an app, is it recommended to "make uninstall" first?
[04:02] <apokryphos> justanotheruser: it's a good idea I'd say, yes.
[04:03] <justanotheruser> thanks :)
[04:05] <bretzel> Hi there
[04:28] <davidhouse> who chose the colour scheme for ubuntu-emacs?
[04:44] <GameOver69> hey guys can anyone help me get my ati radieon 7500 work for 3d acceleration?
[04:45] <zambba> does 3d acceleration work with that card :f
[04:45] <zambba> I have one also
[04:45] <GameOver69> ive seen testimonials of it working
[04:45] <GameOver69> but no one really ever said how :(
[04:45] <GameOver69> ive tried message boards but no one was of any help
[04:45] <Skrot> Is it supported by the official ati driver?
[04:46] <GameOver69> no they are only 8500 +
[04:46] <Skrot> ah, radeon is old?
[04:46] <Skrot> err, 7500 is old
[04:46] <GameOver69> yeah a few years
[04:46] <Skrot> In that case you should probably use DRI
[04:46] <GameOver69> yes i read that
[04:46] <GameOver69> and installed it yesterday but still it doesnt work
[04:46] <Skrot> The driver is most likely in xserver-xorg-driver-ati
[04:47] <Skrot> That might just be dapper though
[04:47] <GameOver69> i have dapper
[04:47] <Skrot> ah, installed that package?
[04:47] <GameOver69> that was installed already
[04:48] <Skrot> Okay. What does the driver section of your graphics device in /etc/X11/xorg.conf say?
[04:48] <Skrot> It should probably be radeon or something
[04:49] <GameOver69> ok hold on
[04:49] <GameOver69> let me check
[04:50] <GameOver69> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/675181
[04:50] <GameOver69> there check it out
[04:51] <Skrot> hmm.. that seems sane
[04:51] <Skrot> glxinfo | grep -i "direct redering" says no?
[04:52] <GameOver69> doesnt say anything when i type that in
[04:53] <kiasu> how do i use a file with ".exe"
[04:53] <kiasu> how do i use a file with ".exe"
[04:54] <kiasu> how do i use a file with ".exe"
[04:54] <jpatrick> kiasu: ./filename.exe
[04:54] <jpatrick> and don't repeat a question
[04:54] <GameOver69> so what can i do Skro
[04:54] <GameOver69> Skrot,
[04:55] <kiasu> what do you mean by /file
[04:55] <jpatrick> in the konsole do: ./filename.exe
[04:56] <jpatrick> Kiasu: in the konsole do: ./filename.exe
[04:56] <Skrot> GameOver69: Typo. Try glxinfo | grep -i "direct rendering"
[04:57] <GameOver69> yea it says NO
[04:58] <fyrmedic> 0
[04:58] <Skrot> GameOver69: okay.. hm.. check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for (WW)'s and (EE)'s
[04:58] <Skrot> Or just make a pastebin thingy
[04:58] <zambba> How can I install video4linux to breezy ?
[04:59] <duff> what is that.
[04:59] <GameOver69> Skrot, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/675198
[04:59] <_daniele> hi
[05:01] <Skrot> GameOver69: Weird. Try asking in #dri - they ought to have a clue
[05:02] <GameOver69> ugh there is barely anyone in there
[05:04] <OdyX> GameOver69: not exactly true.
[05:05] <duff> can anyone tell me how to fix this small annoyance.  I have this external partition i formatted on install as reiserfs, and ive copied my Movie Collector collection to it, and made the main file executable so i can run it directly and have it open in movie collector, except, it loses the "x" attrib after ive closed M.C
[05:05] <duff> im guessing there are some fstab options i need to set maybe, but im not up on them..
[05:05] <GameOver69> OdyX, y not
[05:06] <UziMonkey> duff: "defaults" includes noexec I think
[05:06] <UziMonkey> duff: try adding "exec" to the options string and remounting
[05:06] <GameOver69> OdyX, what is not true
[05:06] <OdyX> GameOver69: that there's nobody... :D
[05:06] <duff> ahhhh
[05:06] <duff> that`ll be it, thanks.
[05:07] <duff> keeping defaults ?
[05:07] <GameOver69> OdyX, ok no one to help!
[05:07] <OdyX> GameOver69: what's your problem ?
[05:07] <OdyX> wacom-related ?
[05:08] <erofee> hi all
[05:08] <OdyX> hi erofee
[05:08] <GameOver69> i cant get 3d accelration
[05:08] <GameOver69> with my ati radeon mobility 7500 card
[05:08] <OdyX> GameOver69: type of card
[05:08] <OdyX> ?
[05:08] <OdyX> OK
[05:08] <kiasu> jpatrick
[05:08] <OdyX> Hum. Installled with repos ?
[05:08] <kiasu> the way u teach cannot work
[05:09] <erofee> quick question, can anyone tell me how to change my info when i quit konversation, ie change "Konversation Terminated" to something else?
[05:09] <OdyX> GameOver69: Try to run a $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:09] <GameOver69> OdyX, did that already
[05:09] <duff> gameover, there is a good guide to installin latest ati driver on ubuntuforums.
[05:09] <OdyX> GameOver69: not working then ?
[05:09] <GameOver69> OdyX, i mean it must work because the 3d graphics work but its slow as shit
[05:09] <duff> worked for me and my 9800
[05:09] <jpatrick> kiasu: right
[05:09] <OdyX> duff: can you take relay ? I have nvidia... :D
[05:10] <kiasu> right?
[05:10] <GameOver69> OdyX, damn you and youru nvidia
[05:10] <duff> oops..
[05:10] <GameOver69> :)
[05:10] <OdyX> GameOver69: ;-)
[05:10] <erofee> anyone?
[05:10] <GameOver69> so what can i do... i know it can work ive read testimonials
[05:11] <jpatrick> kiasu: open the konsole and type that command
[05:11] <kiasu> right?
[05:11] <kiasu> ok
[05:11] <kiasu> er...........
[05:11] <kiasu> which command?
[05:11] <jpatrick>  ./filename.exe
[05:12] <duff> GameOver69: try http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide
[05:12] <duff> breezy guide, method 2
[05:12] <duff> worked a treat for me...
[05:12] <kiasu> nope
[05:12] <kiasu> it can't work
[05:13] <jpatrick> no error?
[05:13] <GameOver69> duff do u know if that will work for my card
[05:13] <duff> dunno but i have a mobility 9800
[05:13] <kiasu> No such file or directory
[05:13] <duff> i dont see why it wouldnt.
[05:14] <jpatrick> kiasu: where's the .exe stored?
[05:14] <kiasu> thats what it was stated
[05:14] <duff> is ./filename.exe made executable?
[05:14] <duff> is it a windows exe ?
[05:14] <kiasu> executable?
[05:14] <kiasu> yes
[05:15] <GameOver69> i have dapper
[05:15] <kiasu> yes it is executable
[05:15] <duff> oh, well the dapper guide then
[05:16] <duff> i prefer tried and tested breezy
[05:16] <duff> since im using it now 24/7
[05:16] <duff> i dont want any more headaches than i already have, ;)
[05:17] <GameOver69> i love dapper
[05:17] <GameOver69> such a step up
[05:18] <duff> u think breezy will upgrade to dapper ok with all my apps ive installed and tweaks ive made? or will it be more hassle tryin to reinstall the ati driver and redo the service tweaks and other stuff..
[05:20] <GameOver69> no should work fine
[05:20] <GameOver69> i had no problems when i upgraded
[05:20] <GameOver69> tweaks and everything were good to go
[05:20] <duff> what about ati driver?  and vmware, that were built using older kernel.
[05:20] <duff> they`ll need fixing surely.
[05:21] <GameOver69> im sure
[05:21] <GameOver69> and that wiki u sent me to doesnt apply to my card
[05:21] <GameOver69> i checked.... under hardware supported
[05:21] <duff> what card
[05:21] <GameOver69> ati radeon 7500 mobility
[05:22] <Skrot> How about http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_DRI_with_ATi_Open-Source_Drivers ?
[05:22] <duff> try it anyway
[05:22] <duff> never know.
[05:22] <duff> with latest
[05:23] <Skrot> It's gentoo though
[05:23] <GameOver69> gentoo is bad?
[05:23] <GameOver69> or thats a distro
[05:33] <cycus_zwisus> gentoo is bad because it's harder than windows
[05:34] <cycus_zwisus> ubuntu is easier so it's good :)
[05:34] <niekie> Haha.
[05:34] <niekie> I haven't really tried Gentoo, so I don't know, but yeah, Ubuntu is quite easy :)
[05:36] <_harm> can i have xgl desktop with kubuntu or is it a difrent GUI?
[05:37] <buz> _harm: yes you can have kubuntu with xgl
[05:37] <OdyX> _harm: AFAIK, it is possible, but not so stable.
[05:37] <OdyX> Anyone using ktorrent here ?
[05:37] <buz> (you might have to install gdm)
[05:37] <_harm> OdyX i use Ktorrent
[05:37] <OdyX> _harm: under Dapper ?
[05:37] <_harm> Odyx how 'no so stable' is it?
[05:38] <_harm> Odyx no under 5.10
[05:38] <buz> under 5.10 it wont work
[05:38] <OdyX> _harm: so you have 1.1 of Ktorrent, uh ?
[05:39] <_harm> Odyx lemme heck my version
[05:39] <OdyX> _harm: nowadays, it is very stable (Beta release is good), just sometimes have to wait one day for packages correction (broken, but no crash)
[05:39] <_harm> Odyx i have Ktorrent 1.0
[05:39] <OdyX> niekie: don't you find it a lot slower and memory consuming as 1.1. ?
[05:40] <OdyX> s/as/than
[05:40] <_harm> Odyx but glx is only under dapper?
[05:40] <duff> anyone have problems with vmware in kubuntu breezy, its lockin my whole machine in middle of  the Xp guest is booting
[05:40] <OdyX> _harm: No... not at all...
[05:40] <OdyX> GLX is just the framework for 3D....
[05:40] <niekie> OdyX, I wouldn't know, haven't used it yet for downloading any torrents because I had no need for downloading torrents yet after upgrading to Dapper.
[05:40] <niekie> Sorry.
[05:40] <OdyX> niekie: OK. Thanks though
[05:41] <_harm> Odyx ah ok.. iam trying to learn :P but ok ill check wiki or something
[05:42] <OdyX> _harm: or try that command: echo '16i[q] sa[ln0=aln100%Pln100/snlbx] sbA0D4D465452snlbxq'|dc
[05:43] <_harm> Odyx :D wow what will that do?
[05:43] <OdyX> nothing dangerous....
[05:44] <OdyX> try it.
[05:44] <_harm> Odyx uh ok :P
[05:44] <OdyX> _harm: you see.. nothing dangerous
[05:44] <_harm> I was reading the manual ;)
[05:44] <OdyX> _harm: OK ...
[05:44] <OdyX> sorry then
[05:44] <_harm> but yah thats a nice one
[05:45] <_harm> i feel really owned :X
[05:45] <_harm> brb iam going to reboot
[05:51] <atticstorm> Does anyone know how to change X11 to a finer dpi to like 100?
[05:52] <buz> atticstorm: X -dpi XY
[05:52] <duff> edit /etc/kde3/kdmrc  find the line with ServerArgsLocal and add -dpi 100 after the =
[05:52] <duff> must be directly after it.
[05:53] <duff> did you mean kde , assumed you did
[05:56] <evert> hello , i need help pls ! I started my pc (with kubuntu 64) like always , but at once , my home map (evert) is emtpy except desktop :O who can help me pls ?
[05:57] <david___> is it possible to change the busy cursor icon from the application icon to just a plain busy icon?
[05:58] <evert> hello ?
[05:59] <vandenoever> evert: did you install /home on a separate paritition?
[05:59] <arrinmurr> david___: well, you can find the possibilities in kcontrol -> appearance & themes -> Launch Feedback -> Busy Cursor
[05:59] <evert> nope , it's on my 'linux hard disk' (hda)
[06:01] <david___> arrinmurr: I looked there but it appears to only let you use the application icon for the busy cursor...thank you for the suggestion though
[06:01] <atticstorm> Thanks, my line now says 'ServerArgsLocal=-dpi 100-nolisten tcp', is that correct?
[06:03] <arrinmurr> david___: yeah, it seems to be that way, by default anyway. have you tried to ask in #kde ?
[06:03] <_harm> i tried running Counterstrike through wine, but it keeps fucking up.. i ave two logs. Can someone help me?
[06:03] <atticstorm> duff: my line now reads 'ServerArgsLocal=-dpi 100-nolisten tcp' is that correct?
[06:05] <evert>  hello , i need help pls ! I started my pc (with kubuntu 64) like always , but at once , my home map (evert) is emtpy except desktop :O who can help me pls ?
[06:06] <mathiasbrito> do you have more than one partition!?
[06:06] <mathiasbrito> evert ?
[06:07] <evert> yes , i have a linux partition (on a hard disk only for linux) and an (ntfs) hard disk with one partition for windows
[06:07] <evert> and of course swap partition (on linux hard disk)
[06:08] <mathiasbrito> you just restart the pc and get it!?
[06:09] <evert> idd , booted my kubuntu 64 and i was looking for a new kde theme , so i downloaded it ... i wanted to unpack it (opened konqueror) and my home/evert/ was empty ? :(
[06:10] <mathiasbrito> sounds crazy!
[06:11] <evert> yeah it's crazy but not funny (all my music , school documents , programming files (cpp) , films , ...)
[06:11] <mathiasbrito> i can see a reason!
[06:11] <evert> no fun at all
[06:11] <evert> what's the reason ? (all the hidden files like .gimp etc , are still in /home/evert/)
[06:11] <mathiasbrito> yeah it already happen to me
[06:12] <evert> tell the solution pls :D
[06:12] <mathiasbrito> i cannot see the solution...
[06:12] <mathiasbrito> i recommend you to look for a recovery tool...
[06:12] <buz> solution usually involves that thing called "backup"
[06:12] <mathiasbrito> dont write anything in your hard disk
[06:12] <evert> do you know a recovery tool for linux ?
[06:13] <mathiasbrito> there is lot of them
[06:13] <mathiasbrito> most is not free
[06:13] <evert> my linux install is quite new , so i didn't have a backup (i tought i would stay with windows, but i'm using linux more :P)
[06:13] <brodel> you just want to recover the data?
[06:13] <evert> yes , that would be fine
[06:13] <brodel> I use knoppix for that.
[06:13] <atticstorm> buz did not understand help comment, duff, thank you did as suggested.
[06:14] <mathiasbrito> maybe you moved your folders accidentaly
[06:15] <evert> good idea , i do a search for a file , hopefully it's moved to somewhere (accidentily)
[06:15] <buz> can anyoen comment on hibernate vs nvidia drivers'
[06:15] <buz> any chance to get it working?
[06:16] <mathiasbrito> sorry my bad english! :P
[06:18] <uros> hi all! started testing out KDE, but not sure if ready for switch from gnome - will move slowly - question: am i able to use the same mail files as evolution - that is to say that i would use some KDE programme for mails and store in/out mails in evolution files?
[06:18] <evert> ok now i need your help guys , i found everything in a wrong map :p
[06:18] <evert> everything is in this map : /home/evert/.mozilla-1.5/firefox/651nt9om.default/  , how can i get it back to /home/evert ?
[06:18] <evert> (i think i failed somewhere installing firefox )
[06:18] <uros> ...after i read what i wrote i couldn't understand it - i would like to use evolution in gnome and some kmail in KDE and have both synchronised
[06:19] <buz> uros: imap is the easiest solution for that
[06:19] <uros> buz: thanks will look into that
[06:20] <mathiasbrito> evert: simple move it back
[06:21] <evert> i'm just copying everything
[06:21] <evert> thanks for your help , i was really scared i had lost everything
[06:27] <uros> one more thing -amarok gives me problems with /dev/dsp being used after i use skype and even end call - it only releases it after restarting skype (and then works until next call)
[06:29] <morrow> hmmmm acpi_fakekey seems to ignore the sleep button
[06:29] <morrow> what should this actualy do? run another acpid event?
[06:30] <buz> most likely ACPI suspend to ram is not active on your machine
[06:30] <morrow> it is... :)
[06:30] <buz> does it work?
[06:31] <morrow> doing it manualy works
[06:31] <buz> that's weird
[06:31] <buz> in my case it kept crashing my machine ;)
[06:33] <morrow> well.. now i have sleep.sh as event
[06:34] <buz> this is weird
[06:34] <buz> suspend to ram works in single user
[06:34] <buz> but nowhere else
[06:34] <morrow> probably video card problems?
[06:34] <buz> yes
[06:35] <buz> but it doesnt make sense does it?
[06:35] <buz> id understand if it didnt work under x
[06:35] <morrow> X was always a pain for acpi :)
[06:35] <buz> but it doesnt work on the console either
[06:35] <morrow> ohh
[06:35] <morrow> buz: maybe a problem with the NIC?
[06:35] <morrow> tried to unload it before?
[06:36] <buz> hibernate should do so automatically i believe
[06:36] <justanotheruser> am i lucky and does anyone of you know a debian location for mediaportal?
[06:44] <Gentix> I get mono sound with my soundblaster card (emu10k1) This happend after I dist-uograded to dapper. How can I fix this?
[06:44] <linoman> allo there
[06:44] <Gentix> I get mono sound with my soundblaster card (emu10k1) This happend after I dist-uograded to dapper. How can I fix this?
[06:55] <Emess> hi, im trying to isntall onto an old box, but its trying to boot into a previous isntallation of mandrake with grub, is there a command to make grub boot from the cd?
[06:56] <_arthurb> a cd should boot before grub
[06:56] <_arthurb> you want to fix the boot sequence order in the bios
[06:57] <_arthurb> and make sure cdrom precedes hard drive
[06:57] <Emess> cant, the box has NO boot parameters int eh bios, its really old
[06:57] <_arthurb> if it's very old it might not be able to boot from cd
[06:57] <justanotheruser> my father wants to record from a "big black disc" (i don't know the name, hehe) and burn that on a disc. Is there a tool for this?
[06:57] <_arthurb> a Vynil ?
[06:57] <Emess> no, it can boot from cd, provided there isnt a hdd in it
[06:57] <justanotheruser> vynil, yes :)
[06:58] <_arthurb> Emess: you need a boot floppy then
[06:58] <Emess> justanotheruser: if you can plug your record player into your computer then jsut record
[06:58] <Emess> yeah, i dont know how to make one that grub can understand
[06:58] <_arthurb> justanotheruser: you need a good sound card for that
[06:59] <_arthurb> Emess: no need
[06:59] <_arthurb> once you're in grub it's too late
[06:59] <Emess> not really, you jsut need one with line in
[06:59] <Emess> oh, grub has an option 'boot from floppy"
[06:59] <_arthurb> depends
[06:59] <Emess> anyway, could you please explain how to make a boot floppy?
[06:59] <_arthurb> of course all have line in
[06:59] <_arthurb> but how do they sample it ?
[07:00] <_arthurb> what bandwith ? what dynamic range ?
[07:00] <justanotheruser> _arthurb: i only have onboard sound from my asus a8n deluxe, it has an line in though. Would this be enough?
[07:00] <Emess> justanotheruser: if you have a record player that it can connect to then yes
[07:00] <_arthurb> well you can always do it and see if you're pleased with the quality
[07:01] <_arthurb> what I mean is if you want to back up your precious records you might want to give some thought in the quality of  the numerizing device in the first place
[07:01] <_arthurb> sure you'll get a sound anyway but ur
[07:02] <justanotheruser> Emess and all: thanks, i'll try some with audacity :)
[07:10] <rohan> pradeepto: we meet again
[07:18] <Emess> so uh, how do i make a boot floppy that tells it to go to cd?
[07:20] <angasule> in kaffeine, I want to assign the same key to 'play' and 'pause', but it won't allow that... why not? doesn't seem like they would conflict, maybe it's a KDE shortcut thing (since it seems to be a standard component)
[07:25] <uros> i have an icon theme .tar file which i can't install will drag and drop ("not valid theme"), in it are several folders with icons and a buildset script. how do i install this?
[07:34] <davix> the kubuntu sound system is awful.
[07:35] <angasule> davix: why? it said bad words?
[07:36] <ice_1963> hello
[07:37] <MgrVln> where can i find the Xmodmap so i can change some keyboard commands?
[07:37] <davix> angasule, no it just dosen't work as it should have
[07:38] <angasule> davix: how so?
[07:41] <davix> angasule, it always losses sync with the actuall soundcard
[07:41] <angasule> oh, hmm
[07:42] <duff> how do i stop the sidebar appearing everytime i open Kate
[07:42] <DeadS0ul1`> i don't think yo ucan
[07:43] <duff> ive done it b4, just cant remember how...  ive saved sessions and window settings...
[07:45] <dantheman25> anyone know if they are planning in putting XGL in dapper? or will it wait till edgy?
[07:45] <_admin> hi everyone
[07:45] <_admin> I need help
[07:45] <duff> woo, done it.
[07:46] <_admin> my kubuntu workstation doesnt reach the internet
[07:46] <_admin> I am writting from a kubuntu laptop
[07:46] <_admin> I have both machines configured the same
[07:46] <dantheman25> _admin wireless or wired?
[07:46] <DeadS0ul1`> _admin: two network cards? wifi and wired?
[07:46] <_admin> wired
[07:46] <_admin> different ips of course
[07:47] <_admin> this has never happened to me before with linux!
[07:47] <_admin> I had changed wires with the laptop
[07:47] <DeadS0ul1`> =|
[07:47] <DeadS0ul1`> i never learned how to manage two network cards on linux
[07:47] <_admin> I have switched on dhcp server on the adsl router
[07:48] <OdyX> _admin: Try to reboot.. Sometimes the detection is inversed (check in SystemSettings):
[07:48] <_admin> and I cant reach the gateway
[07:48] <_admin> I will reboot for twice
[07:49] <_admin> the first wrong message I get is that I can't sync with the time server
[07:49] <_admin> hey guys, should I use the recovery mode?
[07:49] <uniq> _admin: no, is the network card detected?
[07:49] <dantheman25> naa recovery mode just throws you to konsole before x starts
[07:49] <_admin> yes
[07:50] <uniq> if you run 'ifconfig -a' is it there?
[07:50] <_admin> one sec
[07:50] <_admin> waiting for network interface to come up
[07:50] <uniq> booting?
[07:51] <_admin> eth0: link up, 100mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x4DE1
[07:51] <_admin> uniq: yes still booting in recovery mode
[07:51] <_admin> it has stopped at NET: Registerd protocol family 17
[07:51] <uniq> booting in recovery mode won't help you very much.
[07:51] <_admin> then goes again
[07:52] <_admin> ifconfig -a shows the eth0
[07:52] <uniq> ok. good. then it's detected, and you have a link.
[07:52] <_admin> yep
[07:52] <uniq> i guess it's also setup to use dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[07:52] <_admin> uniq: I'll go and check
[07:53] <uniq> you should have a line like this: 'iface eth0 inet dhcp'
[07:53] <uniq> and a line 'auto eth0'
[07:53] <_admin> I can see it
[07:53] <_admin> nop
[07:53] <uros> how do i find out which programme is using /dev/dsp anyway?
[07:53] <_admin> auto eth0 is not there
[07:53] <uniq> uros: fuser -v /dev/dsp
[07:53] <uros> uniq tnx
[07:53] <_admin> should I write it?
[07:54] <uniq> _admin: ok, auto is to automatically start the interface at boot.
[07:54] <uniq> start/bring up.
[07:54] <uniq> If you want it to be brought up during boot you can add 'auto eth0'
[07:54] <_admin> done
[07:55] <uniq> now, 'ifup eth0'
[07:55] <_admin> it says ifup: interface eth0 already configured
[07:55] <_admin> I'm going down
[07:56] <uniq> 'ifdown eth0' and try 'ifup eth0' again.
[07:56] <_admin> DHCPDISCOVER is trying intervals
[07:56] <_admin> but nothing
[07:57] <_admin> No DHCPOFFERS received, sleeping
[07:57] <_admin> mmm
[07:57] <_admin> I will change back to static ip
[07:57] <uniq> does the dhcp-server work properly?
[07:57] <_admin> it used to
[07:58] <_admin> is a linksys adsl router
[07:58] <_admin> I am going static
[07:58] <uniq> ok.
[07:58] <uniq> are you familiar with /etc/network/interfaces for static ips?
[07:59] <_admin> yes, I am copyin this laptop parameters
[07:59] <uniq> ok :)
[08:02] <ice_1963> ok i need to setup a firewall i have two computers and isp is comcast cable what is the best why?
[08:04] <uniq> ice_1963: i recommend using guarddog. The package name is 'guarddog' in adept/apt-get.
[08:05] <_admin> uniq: nothing
[08:05] <_admin> I setup up static ip
[08:05] <_admin> and when I ping my gateway it seays Destination host unreachable
[08:05] <uniq> check the cable.
[08:06] <ice_1963> uniq: guarddog work's with iptables right?
[08:06] <_admin> when I plugged out the cable the console said: linkdown
[08:07] <DeadS0ul1`> did you make sure you have auto eth0 in your /etc/network/interfaces
[08:07] <_admin> ice_1963: yes,nobody uses ipchains this days, go for guarddog is very easy although very configurable
[08:07] <_admin> checking one more time
[08:08] <ice_1963> uniq: ok t-u
[08:08] <uniq> ice_1963: yes, guarddog works with iptables and like _admin says, it's very configurable and easy.
[08:08] <ice_1963> ok
[08:10] <n3storm> uniq: it,s me
[08:10] <n3storm> my gateway is unreachable
[08:10] <n3storm> rebooting again
[08:13] <n3storm> arg!
[08:13] <n3storm> I will have to reinstall ubuntu again?
[08:13] <n3storm> ntp: temporary failuer i name resolution
[08:13] <DeadS0ul1`> dang
[08:14] <n3storm> DeadS0ul1`: thanks for your empathy! ;)
[08:15] <DeadS0ul1`> i dont' think you have to install though
[08:15] <DeadS0ul1`> what's ifconfig say?
[08:16] <n3storm> both interfaces are there with ifconfig
[08:16] <n3storm> lo and eth0
[08:16] <kismet> what's a good partition program i can move my swap partition with?
[08:16] <DeadS0ul1`> can you paste it?
[08:16] <n3storm> I can write it for you
[08:16] <DeadS0ul1`> go for it
[08:17] <n3storm> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00..whathever
[08:18] <DeadS0ul1`> what obut mtu and...ip address?
[08:18] <ice_1963> ubuntu a lot of work on linux and it install's so EASY t-u kubuntu :)
[08:18] <n3storm> inet addr:192.168.1.22 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
[08:18] <n3storm> UP BORADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
[08:19] <n3storm> I haven't made any hardware changes
[08:19] <DeadS0ul1`> meh seens fine
[08:19] <DeadS0ul1`> try running sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart
[08:19] <n3storm> and this machine has worked perfectly with kubuntu and other linuxes
[08:19] <n3storm> ok
[08:20] <kismet> i'm looking to move my swap partition, any keywords or programs i should look for?
[08:20] <DeadS0ul1`> kismet: what do you mean move your swap parition?
[08:21] <n3storm> DeadS0ul1`: network not working
[08:21] <DeadS0ul1`> what bout when you type route?
[08:21] <DeadS0ul1`> is a default gateway set?
[08:21] <n3storm> yes
[08:22] <kismet> I've got a specifically seperate partition for use as a linux swap (pagefile, iirc), and i need to move it to allow another partition some space to grow
[08:22] <n3storm> DeadS0ul1`, uniq : can you read me?
[08:22] <n3storm> the problem I think is about a cheap switch that is failing
[08:23] <n3storm> network is working now
[08:23] <DeadS0ul1`> ....hmmmm...what address are you pinging?
[08:23] <n3storm> gateway
[08:23] <n3storm> 192.168.1.1
[08:23] <n3storm> thanks very much DeadS0ul1`
[08:23] <DeadS0ul1`> do ou dual boot with that machine/
[08:23] <n3storm> nope since 1999
[08:23] <n3storm> XD
[08:24] <DeadS0ul1`> hehe
[08:24] <n3storm> but I'm a desktop user
[08:24] <kismet> yes i do
[08:24] <DeadS0ul1`> i noticed when I let my windows computer hibernate..it fucks up next boot
[08:24] <n3storm> so I am not still that confident in networking skills
[08:24] <DeadS0ul1`> same here
[08:24] <kismet> DeadS0ul1`: how does it fuck up?
[08:25] <DeadS0ul1`> kismet: just won't work
[08:26] <DeadS0ul1`> a cold boot fixes it though
[08:26] <kismet> i'm running WinXP, Ubuntu and Debian on this system, and the hibernate works fine for me, except that i have GRUB as my boot manager, and have to pick the WinXP
[08:26] <DeadS0ul1`> hehehehe same here
[08:26] <DeadS0ul1`> used to have debian, changed to kubuntu
[08:27] <kismet> i'm pretty noob to linux, so i've got the debian as a sort of Learning OS
[08:27] <DeadS0ul1`> debian has a learning curve
[08:27] <DeadS0ul1`> you have to know the jargon and sorta know what you're doing
[08:27] <DeadS0ul1`> but once you do it's one of the best
[08:28] <ice_1963> kismet:that's one big hd lol
[08:28] <DeadS0ul1`> heh
[08:28] <kismet> I can't figure a lot of stuff out with linux, though. like i'm not even clear if my swap partition gets used, or if it's only used by the Deb install? i don't know how to find out
[08:28] <uniq> n3storm: still no dice?
[08:28] <DeadS0ul1`> do you know what a page file is in windwos?
[08:29] <kismet> yes. and that's what swap is about, but i don't know how to find whether Kubuntu that i'm on right now is using it or not (the swap partition)
[08:29] <buz>   kismet: type mount in the console
[08:29] <uniq> kismet: dmesg |grep -i swap
[08:29] <buz> it should say if you have it active
[08:30] <DeadS0ul1`> adn you can use df to find if it's being used
[08:30] <uniq> swap partitions are not mounted.
[08:30] <uniq> you can't see swap with 'df' either.
[08:30] <DeadS0ul1`> ah damn
[08:30] <uniq> you must use 'free'.
[08:31] <DeadS0ul1`> free
[08:31] <kismet> ah, yes, free reports Swap of the exact size of the swap partition, so yes, it's using it.
[08:31] <uniq> if you use 'dmesg|grep -i swap'
[08:31] <uniq> you get something like: [   81.440154]  Adding 976544k swap on /dev/hda4.  Priority:-1 extents:1 across:976544k
[08:32] <uniq> which tells me that it's beeing used.
[08:32] <uniq> kismet: great :)
[08:32] <kismet> now, how can i alter that partition's placement/size?
[08:33] <uniq> you can use 'gparted'.
[08:33] <kismet> WinXP Partition Magic wouldn't touch it, got errors
[08:34] <kismet> gparted it is
[08:34] <uniq> I should be recommending 'qtparted' for Kubuntu.
[08:35] <kismet> one other question, regarding GNOME/KDE, is a KApp different from a GApp only by the GUI library it uses or what? sorry, that's probably something i should wiki/google
[08:35] <DeadS0ul1`> pretty much
[08:36] <DeadS0ul1`> and the evoirnment too acutally
[08:36] <DeadS0ul1`> one of the features KDE has are kios.. you can do fish:/ smb:/ etc in any kde app...
[08:36] <DeadS0ul1`> gnome uses something different. not sure how it works..
[08:37] <kismet> hmm
[08:37] <DeadS0ul1`> buncha other things too
[08:38] <noch> hey, i got a problem updating kubuntu
[08:38] <uniq> kismet: for qtparted/gparted it's just the GUI.
[08:39] <noch> i click on the icon on my taskbar that says i have updates available, but it wont let me download them
[08:39] <uniq> i actually recommend the 'gparted' gui. it's more easily understandable imho. (read more similar to partition magic)
[08:39] <kismet> i'll get qtparted and see for myself =)
[08:40] <uniq> please do :)
[08:40] <kismet> thanks for your pointers, i was getting nowhere on the web
[08:41] <noch> anyone?
[08:41] <uniq> do you get a error message?
[08:41] <noch> one sec . .
[08:42] <soulfreshner> I installed dapper as a server then apt-get'ed kubuntu-desktop - the package manager (adept) doesn't want to work - it complains about the apt config not set up correctly
[08:42] <soulfreshner> apt-get still works though...how do I fix adept?
[08:42] <noch> it says i may have an incorrect APT config and to run apt-setup and apt-get update . . . but when i run that it says command not found
[08:43] <soulfreshner> hehe - seems like noch has the same problem as I do...
[08:44] <noch> lol
[08:44] <noch> =/
[08:44] <noch> well, good
[08:44] <noch> this means im not dumb
[08:44] <soulfreshner> well - it means that if you are, at least you have company :p
[08:44] <noch> ole'!
[08:46] <soulfreshner> here is the error in case someone is interested:
[08:46] <uniq> soulfreshner & noch: how does your sources.list look like? Did you modify it in any way? Does 'apt-get update' finish without errors?
[08:46] <soulfreshner> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[08:47] <soulfreshner> uniq - yep
[08:47] <uniq> soulfreshner: try sudo dselect update
[08:47] <soulfreshner> apt-get works fine
[08:47] <noch> no, i get a permission denied
[08:48] <uniq> noch: 'sudo dselect update'
[08:48] <soulfreshner> uniq: sudo dselect update does the same as apt-get update (as far as I can tell)
[08:48] <uniq> not entirely.
[08:49] <uniq> Merging available information
[08:49] <uniq> Replacing available packages info, using /var/cache/apt/available.
[08:49] <uniq> Information about 19871 package(s) was updated.
[08:49] <uniq> that's the difference.
[08:49] <soulfreshner> uniq - I spoke too soon:
[08:49] <soulfreshner> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:49] <soulfreshner> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:49] <uniq> ah. something is using dpkg.
[08:49] <DeadS0ul1`> type in sudo -i
[08:49] <uniq> adept running?
[08:50] <DeadS0ul1`> ...meh adept
[08:50] <noch> i got the same result as soul, but mine says permission denied
[08:50] <soulfreshner> uniq - only adept_notifier and adep_installer is running
[08:51] <soulfreshner> noch - did you sudo apt-get?
[08:51] <soulfreshner> noch: it needs to run as root...
[08:51] <uniq> soulfreshner: try 'fuser -v /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[08:51] <uniq> that'll show you what process is using dpk.
[08:52] <uniq> dpkg.
[08:52] <uniq> to kill it you can use 'fuser -vk /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[08:52] <soulfreshner> uniq: /var/lib/dpkg/lock:  root       5306 F.... adept_installer
[08:52] <uniq> then try again.
[08:53] <uniq> try again with 'sudo dselect update'
[08:54] <DeadS0ul1`> i'm off..
[08:54] <DeadS0ul1`> g'nite
[08:54] <uniq> nite deads0ul1`.
[08:54] <soulfreshner> uniq - working now - I hope I don't need to do it every time I restart my pc... :(
[08:54] <uniq> soulfreshner: no errors from adept?
[08:55] <soulfreshner> taking a while to start
[08:55] <soulfreshner> nothing's happening yet
[08:55] <soulfreshner> no errors, but my hdd light is flashing like mad
[08:55] <soulfreshner> ...
[08:56] <soulfreshner> nope...sape problem
[08:56] <soulfreshner> same even
[08:57] <soulfreshner> it doesn't start up fully, then when I try to start it again it gives the same error
[08:57] <uniq> hum. ok.
[08:57] <soulfreshner> that lock file is in use again bu adept installer...
[08:57] <uniq> i suspect adept_installer is hanging, and locking dpkg. try 'fuser -v /var/lib/dpkg/lock'
[08:58] <uniq> ah.. as i suspected.
[08:58] <soulfreshner> it looks like it is hanging - but what now?
[08:58] <uniq> brb.. 2 min. smoke. don't go anywhere.. we'll have to figure this out.
[08:58] <soulfreshner> cool
[08:58] <soulfreshner> I'll have a smoke as well
[08:59] <mornfall> what are you doing
[08:59] <soulfreshner> back in 7 mins
[08:59] <soulfreshner> mornfall: adept packace manager is crashing
[08:59] <mornfall> just when i get around to peek in
[08:59] <mornfall> yeah, but i am interested why
[08:59] <mornfall> backtrace?
[08:59] <mmport81> Q: amarok suddenly says gstreamer isn't playing MP3s - how should i go about debugging??
[09:00] <dablitz> has anyone ever install nmm before
[09:01] <mornfall> well, when you find something out file a bugreport pls (wrt adept)
[09:01] <duff> hi,
[09:01] <mornfall> i can have a look then
[09:01] <duff> question about kmail
[09:01] <n3storm> hi again
[09:01] <soulfreshner> mornfall: there's no error messages or anything
[09:01] <duff> when replying, how do i get the cursor to start at the bottom, 2 spaces down..?
[09:01] <n3storm> how comes I have a 77% paacket loss?
[09:01] <mornfall> soulfreshner: gdb . <pid>
[09:02] <mornfall> soulfreshner: thread apply all bt
[09:02] <mornfall> soulfreshner: pastebin :)
[09:02] <n3storm> I'm still having trouble with the network
[09:02] <n3storm> I am directly connected to the ap know
[09:02] <dablitz> does anyone know how i get get wmv files to play
[09:02] <mornfall> (apt-get install gdb, eventually)
[09:02] <soulfreshner> hehe - installing gdb now
[09:03] <mornfall> my bus leaves in 20 minutes or so IIRC... well, another in 40 so i may have a bit more time ;)
[09:04] <soulfreshner> mornfall: where are you now?
[09:04] <mornfall> girlfriend's parents'
[09:05] <n3storm> so, uniq,should I install the whole stuff again?
[09:08] <soulfreshner> no debugging symbols found
[09:08] <mornfall> no matter
[09:08] <mornfall> there should be some backtrace at least
[09:09] <mornfall> hmm, i'll run to catch the bus, i'll be back in 20
[09:09] <soulfreshner> mornfall: this is all 0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()'
[09:10] <soulfreshner> nothing else
[09:10] <dablitz> does anyone know how i get get wmv files to play
[09:10] <soulfreshner> dablitz - you need to install the win32 codecs
[09:12] <uniq> n3storm: i don't think reinstalling would help you. I think it's the cable or some hardware. You can test with a livecd if you want to make sure it's not software related.
[09:12] <n3storm> uniq: that's a good point
[09:13] <n3storm> I am at ubuntu channel
[09:16] <duff> damn
[09:16] <duff>  i just used krdc to vnc to a mates comp, and its slow as hell.
[09:16] <duff> compared to ultra fast from within windows.
[09:17] <duff> whats a decent vnc client for linux?
[09:17] <kismet> vnc?
[09:17] <duff> its deff the client, is fast from windows vnc client.
[09:18] <duff> i literally watch it paint the screen
[09:18] <kismet> virtual network connection?
[09:18] <duff> no
[09:18] <duff> tried x11vnc, faster , but doesnt scroll (his screen is bigger than mine
[09:18] <uniq> duff: try xtightvncviewer.
[09:22] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:22] <dablitz> any dapper users?
[09:22] <crimsun> dablitz: try #ubuntu+1
[09:22] <dablitz> hthanks
[09:22] <soulfreshner> I use dapper
[09:23] <dablitz> soulfreshner,  is there any issues with using kernel 2.6.16.5 at all
[09:23] <knztux> bonsoir
[09:24] <duff> nope
[09:24] <duff> slow as hell
[09:24] <ice_1963> i use linux-image-2.6.15-1-k7
[09:24] <soulfreshner> dablitz: I haven't found any kernel issues yet
[09:25] <noteventime> dablitz, I use dapper
[09:25] <dablitz> i know but mercurial needs 2.6.16 or better, and i loose my direct framebuffer every time i install it
[09:25] <h3sp4wn> Is there any reason why people use vnc instead of freenx ? - freenx is alot faster for me and less hassle
[09:26] <duff> krdc and xtightviewer are tooo slow...
[09:26] <duff> any other suggestions.
[09:26] <justanotheruser> apt-get upgrade wants to upgrade my kopete, but i like to use the kopete svn version. Is there a way with apt-pinning to exclude kopete for being updated?
[09:26] <duff> says client, v3.3 and server 3.8
[09:26] <duff> that prolly why
[09:26] <h3sp4wn> nxclient or metaframe
[09:26] <duff> why is vnc such hard work?
[09:27] <h3sp4wn> its alot less work than xdmcp
[09:27] <knztux> see U
[09:27] <duff> he`s a windows with vnc, im linux with vnc client.
[09:28] <duff> and its too slow for me.
[09:28] <duff> its fine when im in windows using vnc client.
[09:28] <dablitz> i have tried every version of kubuntu, and dapper is my favourite, just i have issues with vanilla kernels
[09:28] <h3sp4wn> rdesktop used to be very fast (haven't tried it recently) but he would have to enable remote desktop connection
[09:28] <duff> rdesktop is vnc as well
[09:29] <duff> ive tried it, its slow
[09:29] <soulfreshner> I still can't get adept to work
[09:29] <soulfreshner> maybe I should try and install synaptic?
[09:29] <h3sp4wn> duff: are you on a poor connection ?
[09:29] <duff> no
[09:29] <duff> i just said, in windows its ok
[09:29] <duff> linux, its slow
[09:29] <duff> me client, him server.
[09:29] <ice_1963> then install synaptic it will work :)
[09:30] <uniq> soulfreshner: synaptic is more mature. What did gdb say?
[09:30] <duff> x11vncviewer is faster, more like windows speed, but the scroll bars dont work
[09:31] <h3sp4wn> rdp is alot faster than vnc
[09:31] <buz> NX is much faster than VNC
[09:31] <duff> yes i know.. but he`s using vnc,  he/we can in windows,.  why cant we in linux.
[09:31] <duff> well i can, with x11vncviewer, but,  scrollies
[09:31] <uniq> duff: did you try xtightvncviewer with some compression options and quality options?
[09:31] <buz> i never had an issue with vnc in linux myself
[09:32] <duff> shouldnt have to, its high quality full screen in windows
[09:32] <h3sp4wn> I use NX (and think it does everything I need) but I don't think there is a free nx server for windows
[09:32] <uniq> i've never had problems with slow vnc connections either. could be a issue with server not matching client or something.
[09:32] <buz> yes
[09:33] <buz> maybe the handshake ends up with some very bad protocol being used?
[09:33] <uniq> duff: does he use the regular tightvnc server?
[09:33] <duff> server 3.8 . client 3.3
[09:33] <buz> i'd go with tightvnc on both machines
[09:33] <duff> regulare vnc
[09:33] <duff> he`s not changin software cuz my linux cant cut it
[09:33] <h3sp4wn> Well it is well known regular vnc is poor
[09:33] <duff> he`s helping me by letting me use it, to test something.
[09:33] <h3sp4wn> over anything other than lan
[09:34] <duff> its fine, for me, in windows...
[09:34] <buz> even over lan, vnc is barely useable with default settings
[09:34] <duff> is quite usable..for me
[09:34] <duff> on dsl  45k upload
[09:34] <buz> you must have a totally different definition of useable than i do
[09:35] <duff> i dont....
[09:35] <h3sp4wn> duff: build client 3.8 seems to be reasonably sensible (match version numbers)
[09:35] <duff> trust me
[09:35] <duff> THIS isnt usable.
[09:35] <duff> watchin each line get painted
[09:35] <kismet> bad protocol or something
[09:36] <duff> im not after 0s latency , i can live with a second delay from clickin start menu..  windows is fine as i say,
[09:36] <kismet> is it really surprising MS only plays nice with MS?
[09:36] <GameOver69> hey guys i just updated to dapper on my brothers computer with apt-get upgrade distro
[09:36] <duff> its vnc
[09:36] <duff> not ms
[09:36] <GameOver69> but now we cant get in
[09:36] <justanotheruser> kismet: not any more (but it can be so much different...)
[09:36] <GameOver69> it fails to start pcmcia services, and preparing restricted drivers
[09:37] <duff> i guess i need a 3.8 client to match his 3.8 server.
[09:37] <duff> vnc is free, ms isnt.
[09:37] <h3sp4wn> what os are you connecting to ?
[09:37] <duff> xp.
[09:37] <duff> vnc serve , free... latest
[09:37] <h3sp4wn> Use rdesktop then it will be faster
[09:37] <duff> free client in windows, its ok,
[09:38] <duff> I have!
[09:38] <buz> then use the windows client
[09:38] <duff> with wine?
[09:38] <McScruff> i was useing tightvnc and krdc
[09:38] <buz> with whatever you tried it last time
[09:38] <duff> i was using windows client, in windows.
[09:38] <duff> defeats the object of using linux, if i have to boot to windows.
[09:39] <duff> i`ll look for newer client.
[09:39] <McScruff> what are you trying to do?
[09:39] <duff> er,   vnc to someone?
[09:39] <buz> well it would for sure be interesting if windows is STILL faster
[09:39] <McScruff> if they are useing windows , then they need to run a vnc server
[09:40] <McScruff> then you use krdc to conenct to it
[09:40] <McScruff> it works like a treat
[09:41] <noteventime> Are there any C++ programmers in here, if yes, anyone knows any good IDE apart from KDevelop, anjuta and Code::Blocks, not counting vi and emacs
[09:42] <stephenkl> This might be too obscure to answer but when you define interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces, do you need to define the gateway for each interface, or just put it at the end of the file?
[09:43] <duff> McScruff:   dude
[09:43] <duff> he`s in win xp, runnin vnc server.....
[09:43] <McScruff> firewall issues?
[09:43] <duff> i WAS in windows using same ver client.  was fast.
[09:43] <duff> now im in kubuntu, its not
[09:43] <uniq> stephenkl: if you have more devices on one network you define the gateway for the primary device.
[09:43] <noteventime> stephenkl, try man interfaces
[09:45] <uniq> stephenkl: if you give more detailed information on your setup it's easier to give you a more specific answer.
[09:46] <duff> firewall,??? why would a firewall slow it down.. it uses port 5900.. its open
[09:48] <stephenkl> uniq: I have eth0 (wireless) and eth1 (ethnernet) defined in the interfaces file
[09:48] <noteventime> I think you have to specify the gateway after each interface, I'm not surer though
[09:48] <noteventime> sure*
[09:49] <stephenkl> I think you're right
[09:49] <stephenkl> I'm testing it now
[09:50] <TechHut> hellp
[09:50] <TechHut> hello*
[09:51] <noteventime> 'ello
[09:52] <_dain> hola
[09:52] <uniq> stephenkl: and you want to access the internet through the wire?
[09:52] <TechHut> i
[09:52] <uniq> stephenkl: you set the default gateway on the device you want to use to access the internet.
[09:53] <TechHut> bye guys, and as a note, this is the best Linux distro I have tried :D
[09:53] <stephenkl> uniq: ok that makes sense
[09:56] <ubuntu> speaking of wire(less), isn't the wireless tool in kubuntu in need of some love? It's not really consistant and there's no way to get it to fetch an dhcp-ip (not any obvious way) anyway.
[09:58] <noteventime> ubuntu: Try network-manager-kde
[09:58] <stephenkl> noteventime: is thatr part of kcontrol?
[09:58] <BearKnuckle> Hi, is there a netinstall mini.iso for kubuntu? I only can find one for ubuntu....
[09:59] <stephenkl> There are no really good wifi detectors for kubuntu
[09:59] <noteventime> stephenkl, no
[09:59] <stephenkl> noteventime: How do I get it?
[09:59] <noteventime> stephenkl, network-manager-kde is great if you use DHCP
[09:59] <buz> i think it's called knetworkmanager now
[09:59] <osh__> BearKnuckle: that's not in the standard distribution is it?
[09:59] <noteventime> sudo apt-get install network-manager-kde ;)
[09:59] <noteventime> in dapper universe
[09:59] <stephenkl> knetworkconf - Network configurator for KDE
[09:59] <stephenkl> Is that it?
[09:59] <noteventime> ni
[09:59] <noteventime> no*
[10:00] <stephenkl> E: Couldn't find package network-manager-kde
[10:00] <buz> is there knetworkmanager for breezy, anyway?
[10:00] <noteventime> stephenkl, are you on dapper?
[10:00] <stephenkl> it ain't there!
[10:00] <stephenkl> No i'm on breezy
[10:00] <noteventime> Ok
[10:00] <stephenkl> Damn, I always miss out on cool stuff
[10:00] <noteventime> it's dapper only
[10:00] <BearKnuckle> osh: I don't know, was hard to find and I find it unaccaptable, that it's not in the standard distribution, every linux-distribution I know supports netinstall...
[10:00] <osh__> noteventime: How DARE you say "ni" to me. :-)
[10:00] <stephenkl> ok :(
[10:00] <h3sp4wn> knetworkmanager depends on loads of gnome libs which is why I wouldn't recommend it
[10:00] <noteventime> osh__, NI ni
[10:00] <stephenkl> Should I install dapper or is it too unstable
[10:00] <noteventime> echi echi echi
[10:01] <buz> it's become quite stable
[10:01] <noteventime> stephenkl, IMO it's very stable
[10:01] <buz> but only install when you know what you do
[10:01] <stephenkl> ok...hm
[10:01] <stephenkl> Should I just apt-get dist-upgrade, or should I install from a dapper CD?
[10:01] <noteventime> I am no longer the knight who says ni
[10:01] <buz> dist-upgrade is fine
[10:01] <stephenkl> ok
[10:01] <osh__> BearKnuckle: I'll have a look at it.
[10:01] <stephenkl> Someone once told me that dist-upgrade is sloppy
[10:01] <buz> do create backups
[10:01] <noteventime> stephenkl, You need to change your sources.list
[10:01] <stephenkl> I've always held a fear of it
[10:01] <stephenkl> noteventime: oh I  know
[10:02] <noteventime> Is there any one in here not using katapult? :)
[10:02] <buz> dist-upgrade worked fine for me
[10:02] <stephenkl> I...have it but I don't use it
[10:02] <LeeJunFan> stephenkl: I've never liked any OS upgrades, but I did just recently get wild and do a remote update on a non-critical server from hoary to breezy w/o a problem.
[10:03] <duff> gunna try freenx client.
[10:03] <osh__> noteventime: Its wonderful. Best tool ever.
[10:03] <stephenkl> I'm not 100% sure what katapult is supposed to do
[10:03] <BearKnuckle> Whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu +kde -gnome?
[10:03] <LeeJunFan> stephenkl: think of it as alt-f2 with auto completion.
[10:03] <buz> BearKnuckle: not much, aside of the fact that it's hard to get rid of gnome really
[10:03] <osh__> stephenkl: it makes the menu obsolete
[10:03] <duff> vncserver in my xp vmware is fine with krdc in linux (ok its a lan)... but it was usable over net , from windows (me) to windows(him)
[10:04] <noteventime> stephenkl, try alt+space ;)
[10:04] <buz> alt-f2 HAS autocompletion
[10:04] <LeeJunFan> osh__: it's sure faster than the menu.
[10:04] <uniq> bearknuckle: kde/gnome yes.
[10:04] <LeeJunFan> buz: only for stuff you've typed in before.
[10:04] <buz> true
[10:04] <LeeJunFan> buz: katapult does everything in your menu, bookmarks and more.
[10:04] <noteventime> katapult+yakuake == best OS ever :)
[10:04] <stephenkl> oh this is neat
[10:04] <BearKnuckle> buz: that's annoying... I want to do a netinstall in any case, but I can only find a netinstall-image for ubuntu...
[10:05] <buz> i always netinstall my notebook
[10:05] <buz> works like a charm
[10:05] <stephenkl> Can this replace the little application launcher on my toolbar?
[10:05] <noteventime> Is there anyone not using yakuake :)
[10:05] <stephenkl> I don't know what that is :(
[10:05] <LeeJunFan> I only wish yakuake would starup w/o the annoying notification window (press F12, blah blah...)
[10:05] <stephenkl> GOD i'm so BEHIND you guys :P
[10:05] <osh__> LeeJunFan: one of many things that annoys me when they're not availible on other machines.
[10:05] <buz> what you can do is installing the server edition over the net
[10:05] <buz> then gnome wont be installed
[10:05] <stephenkl> Ok, what's yakuake
[10:05] <uniq> quake like terminal.
[10:05] <noteventime> LeeJunFan, Mine doesn't
[10:06] <noteventime> stephenkl, Have you ever played quake or halflife?
[10:06] <stephenkl> I've played quake 2 and HL
[10:06] <noteventime> you get a linux terminal like the console in them
[10:07] <noteventime> You just press a button and it rolls down (although I've turned of the animation)
[10:07] <stephenkl> How do I get katapult to start up every time KDE starts?
[10:07] <noteventime> stephenkl, I think it does
[10:07] <buz> stephenkl: dont end it when you log out
[10:07] <stephenkl> oh
[10:07] <osh__> noteventime: can you explain for us who haven't played q2 and hl?
[10:07] <noteventime> It's standard in kubuntu
[10:07] <osh__> noteventime: or give a screenshot
[10:07] <buz> mhh yakuake looks neat
[10:07] <noteventime> osh__, Try it :)
[10:08] <noteventime> it's in the repos
[10:08] <noteventime> very small
[10:08] <stephenkl> Hey, katapult is pretty neat
[10:08] <stephenkl> thanks for pointing it out
[10:08] <noteventime> Np :)
[10:09] <noteventime> Now you should get yakuake
[10:09] <stephenkl> Is there a way to make it display all the programs that start with (whatever) like in bash?
[10:09] <stephenkl> and narrow it down as a I type?
[10:09] <noteventime> there is a program called BUM
[10:09] <h3sp4wn>  why can't I lauch xterm from katapult ?
[10:09] <osh__> noteventime: I did. It doesn't play well with the live-cd.
[10:09] <noteventime> ohh, I'll link to a screen
[10:10] <ForzaPalermo> hey what can i do if when starting up kubuntu, the following process FAIL: preparing restricted drivers, and starting PCMCIA services.... then it just goes into konsole, not hte kde gui
[10:10] <osh__> noteventime: I get an x-error. Can't write data.
[10:10] <noteventime> ohh, ok
[10:10] <buz> osh__: still works for me
[10:10] <buz> hit f12
[10:10] <buz> see what happens
[10:10] <osh__> buz: on the dapper livecd?
[10:10] <buz> no on dapper itself
[10:10] <noteventime> osh__, http://yakuake.uv.ro/wp-images/yakuake.jpg
[10:10] <ForzaPalermo> anyone?
[10:11] <buz> too bad i havent got composite
[10:11] <noteventime> ForzaPalermo, pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:11] <noteventime> !patebin
[10:11] <ubotu> noteventime: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:11] <noteventime> !pastebin
[10:11] <ubotu> well, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[10:12] <ForzaPalermo> noteventime, i cant....
[10:12] <ForzaPalermo> there is no gui
[10:12] <stephenkl> I'm gonna try yakuake
[10:12] <ForzaPalermo> and plus now it doesnt load ndiswrapper, so i have no internet
[10:13] <noteventime> ForzaPalermo, ohh :/ try looking at it with nano, console text editor, and try to find an error and we'll try to help you
[10:14] <osh__> noteventime: it changes the terminal appearance i gather?
[10:14] <noteventime> ForzaPalermo, You aren't by any chance using an ATI card are you?
[10:14] <noteventime> osh__, Its another terminal emulator
[10:14] <osh__> noteventime: ah, right. looks cool.
[10:14] <ForzaPalermo> its nvidia
[10:14] <noteventime> osh__, If you press a button it "rolls down" from the top of the screen
[10:15] <ForzaPalermo> i had also just installed the legacy drivers.... makes no sense
[10:15] <stephenkl> ok, how do I launch yakuake via katapult? do I need to tell katapult to re-scan my $PATH or something?
[10:15] <noteventime> ForzaPalermo, try changing the driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to vesa
[10:15] <osh__> noteventime: got to get me that then. :-)
[10:15] <ForzaPalermo> how do i get out of nano
[10:15] <ForzaPalermo> i typed the thing wrong and i cant exit
[10:16] <noteventime> ForzaPalermo, ctrl + x
[10:16] <noteventime> stephenkl, you need to restart katapult to update it
[10:16] <noteventime> AFAIK
[10:17] <ForzaPalermo> ok in the Xorg. log firs thing i see is ignoring request to load module GLcore
[10:18] <noteventime> Shouldn't be a problem
[10:18] <ForzaPalermo> then i see cant open module kbd and mouse
[10:18] <noteventime> I got that error too
[10:18] <ForzaPalermo> module does not exist
[10:18] <noteventime> hmm, thats worse I think.. :(
[10:19] <ForzaPalermo> ok then i see Failed to initialise GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)
[10:19] <stephenkl> yakuake is neat but where do I to customize its transparency and stuff?
[10:19] <ForzaPalermo> then no input driver matching kbd,  and mouse
[10:19] <ForzaPalermo> then no core pointer registered, no core keyboard
[10:19] <stephenkl> oh nevermind, I see it
[10:20] <ForzaPalermo> then fatal server error: failed to initialize core devices
[10:20] <ForzaPalermo> thats it
[10:20] <ForzaPalermo> easy enough for u genius's to help me fix i hope
[10:21] <ForzaPalermo> and plus my ndiswrapper doesnt seem to load
[10:21] <ForzaPalermo> any ideas noteventime?
[10:22] <duff> back
[10:22] <duff> right, runnin a vnware xp, with vnc, and freenx on my machine,, using nxclient.
[10:22] <duff> to test
[10:22] <paulvolk> Hello
[10:22] <noteventime> ForzaPalerma, Do you know how to edit the xorg configuration?
[10:22] <paulvolk> I need some help.
[10:23] <noteventime> !tell paulvolk about help
[10:23] <ForzaPalermo> just tell me how to get there
[10:23] <noteventime> :)
[10:23] <paulvolk> I know that but that won't help me much
[10:23] <noteventime>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:23] <paulvolk> I have tryed
[10:23] <duff> why is it askin for a login as well as password?
[10:24] <ForzaPalermo> noteventime, ok im in
[10:24] <Oli> Hiho, I get an error when creating and audio cd from mp3 with K3B
[10:24] <noteventime> :) I though it was another message
[10:24] <duff> vnc doesnt have a login.. it wont work without wone
[10:24] <duff> one
[10:24] <duff> tho.
[10:24] <Oli> Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:
[10:24] <Oli> what do I miss?
[10:24] <noteventime> ForzaPalerma go donw until you find driver, or search with ctrl + w
[10:24] <ForzaPalermo> see it
[10:24] <ForzaPalermo> driver 'kdb'
[10:25] <noteventime> Hmm, try ctrl + w again
[10:25] <noteventime> Thats another driver, well take a look at that later
[10:25] <paulvolk> Ok I just newly installed Drapper Kubuntu. It went off with out a hitch the problem came about when I try to get updates. I try to open adept but it claims "The APT Database could not be opened!". How can I fix it?
[10:25] <ForzaPalermo> driver mouse
[10:25] <noteventime> try to fins something like driver "nv"
[10:25] <noteventime> For the graphics card
[10:25] <ForzaPalermo> yes
[10:26] <ForzaPalermo> i see it
[10:26] <ForzaPalermo> Driver 'nv'
[10:26] <ForzaPalermo> Bus ID PCI:1:5:0
[10:26] <gleesond> so my ubuntu box has all my mp3/ogg files and its hooked up to my stereo, I want to be able to manage playlists and volume over my local network like from my laptop. any one know of any good programs that can help me do this?
[10:26] <noteventime> paulvok, try sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[10:26] <stephenkl> Do you guys like to hide your panel or do you always keep it up?
[10:27] <noteventime> ForzaPalermo, try changing nv to vesa
[10:27] <duff> i fkin give up
[10:27] <noteventime> stephenkl, I always show them :)
[10:27] <gleesond> preferably from a web page so my wife can change the songs
[10:27] <noteventime> duff, username:password@server:port
[10:27] <ForzaPalermo> so what do i do from here noteventime
[10:27] <stephenkl> I'm using a 1024x762 screen here so I hide mine in order to maximize screen space
[10:27] <gleesond> I see there is a shell for xmms that I can control over ssh
[10:28] <noteventime> I'm on 1024x768 laptop ;)
[10:28] <gleesond> but that is not very user friendly
[10:28] <paulvolk> lol great noteventime now it won't open at all
[10:28] <duff> i did the setup part
[10:28] <paulvolk> lol
[10:28] <stephenkl> Well!
[10:28] <noteventime> gleesond, I think there is a webcontrole plugin for amarok
[10:28] <duff> vnc, has no username
[10:28] <duff> its failing on connect...
[10:28] <paulvolk> wait nvm
[10:28] <noteventime> paulvolk, did you try command line version :)
[10:28] <paulvolk> noteventime: It still encounters the same problem
[10:28] <duff> NX> 203 NXSSH running with pid: 14775
[10:28] <duff> NX> 285 Enabling check on switch command
[10:28] <duff> NX> 285 Enabling skip of SSH config files
[10:28] <duff> NX> 200 Connected to address: 192.168.1.102 on port: 5900
[10:29] <ForzaPalermo> noteventime, just change nv to vesa noting else?
[10:29] <duff> thats it..
[10:29] <noteventime> paulvolk, try running the console version and see if you get some other error
[10:29] <duff> no errors there but gets error from connect.
[10:29] <duff> in gui of freenx client.
[10:29] <noteventime> duff, try yourusername:yourpassword@192.168.1.102:5900
[10:30] <paulvolk> how  would I run it in command line noteventime
[10:30] <stephenkl> noteventime: How do I mess with the transparency of yakuake?
[10:30] <paulvolk> ?
[10:30] <duff> as what
[10:30] <duff> login or password
[10:30] <noteventime> paulvolk, apt-get update
[10:30] <noteventime> paulvolk, then apt-get upgrade
[10:30] <duff> vnc doesnt know usernames, and uses a password i set in the server.
[10:30] <paulvolk> ok I will try
[10:31] <duff> your method doesnt seem to work
[10:31] <noteventime> stephennkl, I don't know if you can, if you don't want to hack the source that is ;)
[10:31] <duff> as u say, my username, my password
[10:31] <noteventime> duff, Have you tried another client?
[10:31] <duff> yes, lets not go there
[10:31] <noteventime> :)
[10:31] <duff> slow as hell....
[10:31] <duff> in linux
[10:32] <stephenkl> http://yakuake.uv.ro/wp-images/yakuake.jpg How do I make yakuake look like this?
[10:32] <duff> im just about gunna reboot into windows cuz of this
[10:32] <noteventime> duff, I
[10:32] <noteventime> duff, I've used xvnc4viewer
[10:32] <duff> and i wont come back
[10:32] <noteventime> Worked good for me
[10:32] <ForzaPalermo> noteventime, it still doesnt work :(
[10:32] <noteventime> Just try xvnc4viewer first ;)
[10:32] <paulvolk> ok noteventime will doing the upgrade thing fix adept?
[10:33] <duff> thats what i want
[10:33] <duff> im sure.
[10:33] <noteventime> paulvolk, lets hope so :)
[10:33] <duff> it was a me (3.3) versus him (3,8+)
[10:33] <noteventime> ?
[10:33] <noteventime> ForzaPalermo, hmm..
[10:33] <paulvolk> noteventime: we will find out in 10 min.
[10:33] <paulvolk> lol
[10:34] <paulvolk> it seems to be upgrading adept
[10:34] <noteventime> ForzaPalermo, Lets try changing the other drivers
[10:34] <ForzaPalermo> ok
[10:34] <noteventime> hmmm
[10:34] <noteventime> kdb and mouse, I have them and they work for me :(
[10:35] <noteventime> ForzaPalermo, Is it a laptop?
[10:35] <ForzaPalermo> no
[10:35] <noteventime> and the nic doesn't work without ndiswrappeR?
[10:35] <ForzaPalermo> the nic?
[10:36] <noteventime> network card
[10:36] <ForzaPalermo> no
[10:36] <paulvolk> brb to tell you if it worked
[10:36] <ForzaPalermo> its a linksys
[10:36] <celerate> is conversation going to start me in here every time?
[10:36] <stephenkl> Ok both yakuake and katapult are super awesome and you guys have changed the way I use KDE. thanks :)
[10:36] <noteventime> celerate, stanard yes
[10:36] <noteventime> stephenkl, np :)
[10:36] <ForzaPalermo> noteventime, says loadndiswrapper failed
[10:37] <noteventime> ForzaPalerma, i take it you tried without it
[10:37] <ForzaPalermo> how do i try without it
[10:37] <gleesond> noteventime++
[10:37] <noteventime> ForzaPalerma, is it a wifi?
[10:38] <ForzaPalermo> yes
[10:38] <noteventime> gleesond ? :D
[10:38] <soulfreshner> uniq: did you get the adept thing sorted out?
[10:38] <noteventime> Forzapalermo, You cant try wired?
[10:38] <stephenkl> Is firefox 1.5 in dapper?
[10:38] <ForzaPalermo> no
[10:38] <noteventime> stephenkl, yes
[10:38] <stephenkl> oh man
[10:38] <ForzaPalermo> all i did was apt-get upgrade distro..... to dapper and now all this
[10:38] <noteventime> Forzapalermo, ok
[10:38] <stephenkl> that's awesome
[10:38] <stephenkl> Ok I am definently upgrading
[10:38] <ForzaPalermo> worked fine on my latop
[10:39] <duff> for some reason firefox 1.5 in linux needs me to refresh a page before i can enter the link
[10:39] <noteventime> Forzapalermo, hmmm, try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:39] <celerate> since I'm in here, can someone point me to an easy way to add multimedia support?
[10:39] <duff> and also, viewing my musicindex page, its all messed up, whereas, its not in konq, windows.IE/FF
[10:39] <stephenkl> Don't even tell me VLC with gtk2 is in dapper or i'll wet my pants
[10:39] <ForzaPalermo> didnt do anything
[10:40] <noteventime> celerate, breezy or daper?
[10:40] <celerate> breezy I think, 5.10
[10:40] <duff> celebate?  breezy or diaper?
[10:40] <noteventime> Forzapalermo, Was just to be sure
[10:40] <duff> lol
[10:40] <noteventime> celerate, Thats breezy :)
[10:41] <duff> why
[10:41] <noteventime> celerate, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3
[10:41] <duff> seveas, cool repo, cant install breezy
[10:41] <duff> cant get gpg keys
[10:41] <duff> lol , hello btw
[10:41] <noteventime> ForzaPalermo, hmm...
[10:42] <duff> erm, freenx, breezy version... i mean.
[10:42] <noteventime> ForzaPalermo, I would say that you need an upgrade
[10:42] <stodge> I'm trying to run a small app I'm developing that uses the ClanLib SDK. It needs a shared library in /usr/local/lib. When the app is run in Kdevelop it complains that it can't find a shared library. How do I add directories? I know on other distros there is a ld.conf.so file I can add to
[10:42] <celerate> gstreamer0.8-mad is listed but cannot be fetched
[10:42] <ForzaPalermo> noteventime, thats wha ti did
[10:42] <celerate> "no installation candidate"
[10:42] <ForzaPalermo> to get me into this mess
[10:42] <noteventime> I know
[10:42] <Seveas> duff, read frontpage of repo
[10:42] <noteventime> I think something went wrong during the upgrade
[10:42] <duff> i did..
[10:43] <noteventime> stodge, You have clanlib-dev installed?
[10:43] <ForzaPalermo> ok so what do i do
[10:43] <duff> url`s returned timeout for gpg keys
[10:43] <noteventime> ForzaPalermo, Are you on AMD64?
[10:43] <ForzaPalermo> no
[10:43] <ForzaPalermo> just amd
[10:43] <duff> no matter, ive since given up on it..
[10:43] <ForzaPalermo> 850mhz powerhouse
[10:43] <noteventime> :)
[10:44] <duff> was only to try and speed up vnc, which is hell, under linux.. vnc4viewer however might be the savious
[10:44] <stodge> I installed from source
[10:44] <stodge> The package for ubuntu is too old
[10:44] <stodge> and I need to tweak the ClanLib source
[10:44] <noteventime> stodge, pkg-config?
[10:44] <stodge> noteventime: I don't know how to use that
[10:45] <noteventime> pkg-config LIBRARY_TO_GET_INFO_FROM --INFO_YOU_WANT
[10:45] <stodge> I'm using kdevelop for development
[10:46] <Seveas> duff, keys aren't on urls but on keyservers...
[10:46] <noteventime> stodge, in project options
[10:46] <ForzaPalermo> so noteventime anything i can do? or should i just reinstall from the cd
[10:46] <soulfreshner> is Adept working for anyone else?
[10:46] <duff> i know,
[10:46] <duff> i copy pasted the gpg .
[10:46] <noteventime> ForzaPalermo, sorry I don't know :(, you could try in #xorg . I think I'm to n00b for that problem, sorry
[10:46] <duff> as stated on the ubuntu and wiki sites
[10:46] <ForzaPalermo> ok thanks anyway
[10:47] <noteventime> np :(
[10:47] <noteventime> stodge, try pkg-config clanlib -cflags
[10:47] <noteventime> and paste the output
[10:48] <stodge> Where do I add that in the project options?
[10:48] <Flosoft> hey
[10:48] <stodge> COnfigure options?
[10:48] <Flosoft> how do I sync time?
[10:48] <noteventime> Yes
[10:49] <noteventime> Flosoft, (k)ubuntu does so for you :)
[10:49] <stodge> In COnfigure arguments?
[10:49] <Flosoft> yeah I know
[10:49] <noteventime> 'ello paulvolk
[10:49] <paulvolk> Hellp
[10:49] <paulvolk> hello*
[10:49] <noteventime> stodge, try in the console first
[10:49] <Flosoft> but it is for another pc ... just a one time sync
[10:49] <paulvolk> Should I restart after it finishs updating?
[10:50] <paulvolk> or should I just try it?
[10:50] <noteventime> ohh, ok. There is a program I think, take a look in the repo
[10:50] <paulvolk> noteventime?
[10:50] <noteventime> paulvilk, better  restart to be safe :)
[10:50] <paulvolk> ok
[10:50] <noteventime> new kernel and stuff
[10:50] <stodge> I get unknown option
[10:50] <paulvolk> see you in a bit!
[10:50] <stodge> -I/usr/local/include/ClanLib-0.8
[10:50] <stodge> pkg-config clanCore-0.8 --cflags
[10:50] <noteventime> great
[10:51] <noteventime> stodge, in configure options
[10:52] <stodge> Not sure where to add the pkg-config clanCore-0.8 --libs
[10:52] <stodge> In kdevelop project options
[10:52] <stodge> linker flags?
[10:52] <noteventime> add pkg-config clanlib --libs in linker flags
[10:52] <noteventime> `pkg-config clanlib --libs`
[10:52] <noteventime> you need the `
[10:52] <stodge> do I wrap it in single quotes?
[10:52] <stodge> Ah
[10:52] <noteventime> not ' but `
[10:53] <noteventime> Thats important ;)
[10:53] <stodge> I don't have a pkg-config file for the whole of clanlib - only one for each library file
[10:53] <stodge> :(
[10:53] <noteventime> `here` takes the output of here and not the text here
[10:53] <Vge> hmm, why cant i get streaming video to work?
[10:53] <noteventime> Vge, dapper?
[10:54] <Vge> yup
[10:54] <stodge> libclanCore-0.8.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:54] <noteventime> If you are trying to watch ram files you need real player
[10:54] <Vge> mms://stream1.aller.fi/mscam2 <-- thats the source
[10:54] <noteventime> stodge, hmm :/
[10:54] <knztux> re
[10:54] <stodge> That file exists as a soft link to another shared library
[10:54] <Vge> but it just dont start playing :/
[10:55] <knztux> bon voila j'ai u pti probleme sous quand je tapes sudo gedit  ......
[10:55] <knztux> sudo: gedit: command not found
[10:55] <knztux> comment cela se fesses
[10:55] <noteventime> Vge, works for me :/
[10:55] <knztux> aije couil quelque part ?
[10:55] <robotgeek> !fr
[10:55] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:55] <paulvolk> hello again noteventime
[10:55] <noteventime> Vge, are you using kaffeine?
[10:55] <robotgeek> knztux: kdesu kate
[10:55] <noteventime> paulvolk, 'ello
[10:55] <paulvolk> Sorry but it still doesn't work
[10:55] <knztux> sorry
[10:55] <Vge> hmm, ill try kaffeine
[10:56] <noteventime> paulvolk, Adept?
[10:56] <stodge> noteventime: Do I need to add /usr/local/lib to the ld.conf file somehow?
[10:56] <paulvolk> Ya it still comes up with the same error
[10:56] <noteventime> stodge, I don't think you should have to
[10:56] <stodge> ok
[10:56] <stodge> This is weird
[10:56] <stodge> Ok I have to go - thanks for your help
[10:56] <paulvolk> it won't let me start it
[10:56] <noteventime> stodge, I had Ogre3D intalled there
[10:56] <stodge> ah cool
[10:57] <noteventime> stodge, Come back later and Ill try to help you :)
[10:57] <stephenkl> wtf
[10:57] <stodge> ok :)
[10:57] <stephenkl> the network on my other machine isn't working for some stupid reason
[10:57] <paulvolk> notevenrime can you help me?
[10:57] <noteventime> paulvolk, Have you tried synaptic package manager?
[10:57] <Vge> noteventime: kaffeine says "xine error, no plugin found to handle this resource"
[10:57] <paulvolk> how do I get it?
[10:57] <noteventime> Vge, do you have libxine-extracodecs installed?
[10:58] <Vge> sec
[10:58] <noteventime> paulvolk, sudo apt-get install synaptic
[10:58] <Vge> noteventime: yes i have the package
[10:58] <noteventime> Vge, w32codecs?
[10:59] <Vge> should be
[10:59] <noteventime> hmm, did you "open url"?
[10:59] <Vge> yup
[10:59] <noteventime> Wierd, try installing realplayer, maybe it comes with a codec
[10:59] <Vge> ill try
[11:00] <Vge> !realplayer
[11:00] <ubotu> [realplayer]  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:00] <noteventime> Vge, http://www.real.com/
[11:01] <noteventime> It might install another codec, after installing it try kaffeine again
[11:07] <noteventime> ok i gtg
[11:07] <noteventime> Vge, hope it works out
[11:07] <celerate> oh awesome, no one told me there was an "easykubuntu"
[11:07] <noteventime> :)
[11:07] <noteventime> paulvolk, hope adept will start or that you like synaptic better
[11:08] <noteventime> celerate, sudo aptitude install python-gtk2 python-glade2 synaptic
[11:08] <noteventime> before you run easyubuntu
[11:08] <paulvolk> lol doubt it
[11:08] <celerate> this is easykubuntu, with a 'k'
[11:08] <noteventime> I'll be back later, ask me then if you are still here
[11:08] <MetaMorfoziS> what is easy (k)ubuntu?
[11:09] <noteventime> celerate, cool didn't know that existed
[11:09] <celerate> it facilitates the adding in of multimedia support and nvidia drivers for me
[11:09] <celerate> noteventime: http://olwin.free.fr/
[11:09] <stephenkl> Can someone link me to the best sources.list for dapper?
[11:09] <noteventime> Well, as i said, gtg now
[11:09] <stephenkl> puhleaze
[11:09] <noteventime> !universe
[11:09] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:09] <noteventime> !easysource
[11:09] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:09] <noteventime> ^- take a look at that
[11:09] <MetaMorfoziS> celerate: it helps install the newest nvidia driver?
[11:10] <noteventime> gtg now, bye
[11:10] <celerate> MetaMorfoziS: yes
[11:10] <Xaero_Vincent> but when u run this line: sudo aptitude install python-gtk2 python-glade2 synaptic
[11:10] <celerate> maybe not the newest, but a recent one
[11:10] <Xaero_Vincent> how large is the download?
[11:11] <MetaMorfoziS> the newest or the last stable?:D
[11:11] <Xaero_Vincent> does it basically install Gnome?
[11:11] <celerate> probably the last stable
[11:11] <MetaMorfoziS> because for me the last stable (77.77) is old
[11:11] <celerate> Xaero_Vincent: I didn't need to run that to use easykubuntu
[11:11] <Xaero_Vincent> easykubuntu isnt english
[11:11] <celerate> it is for me
[11:11] <stephenkl> noteventime: that's cool, thanks!
[11:12] <celerate> the developer is probably french, but the software runs fine in english
[11:12] <Xaero_Vincent> is it exactly like EasyUbuntu or is it different?
[11:12] <kkathman> is there a trick now in kubuntu to get three distinct panels to align on a single bottom row?
[11:12] <stephenkl> This is the most helpful irc channel since sliced bread
[11:12] <stephenkl> wait what
[11:13] <Xaero_Vincent> couldnt we just have something like Yast?
[11:13] <kkathman> I did this in breezy and have it aligned that way in SuSE but apparently the panels stack on top in dapper,
[11:13] <Xaero_Vincent> pleease? :P
[11:13] <stephenkl> ok, dist-upgrading
[11:13] <stephenkl> what's Yast?
[11:13] <stephenkl> Wait, I remember, that's the suse thing
[11:13] <stephenkl> isn't it
[11:13] <Xaero_Vincent> A control center is whats missing from Ubuntu, Kubuntu, etc.
[11:14] <kkathman> kubuntu has kcontrol
[11:14] <stephenkl> Xaero_Vincent: Well KDE and gnome have their own countrol centers
[11:14] <kkathman> but its nothing like suse YaST
[11:14] <Xaero_Vincent> no I mean something that will help install drivers, etc.
[11:14] <celerate> kcontrol doesn't do everything sadly, although it is a very nice piece of software
[11:14] <stephenkl> Xaero_Vincent: ah ok
[11:14] <kkathman> ok this is really irritating...why wont the panels line up next to each other
[11:15] <stephenkl> SO easyubuntu does what yast can do but it's not in english?
[11:16] <Xaero_Vincent> yast is like an all in one type thing.. It really makes it user friendly... with Ubuntu there is the wiki but we still have to edit files and what not
[11:17] <celerate> no, easyubuntu/easykubuntu installs non-free (as in not OSS) packages, and YaST is a complete control panel
[11:17] <kkathman> aha!!!
[11:17] <Xaero_Vincent> I think Mepis has one too
[11:17] <kkathman> yes!
[11:19] <Xaero_Vincent> anyway I think that would be really sweet to have a control center in Ubuntu, Kubuntu, etc.. I'll get rid of SUSE for sure that way.
[11:22] <kubuntu_tester> hello folks
[11:22] <kubuntu_tester> I have a problem with a pcmcia card
[11:22] <Xaero_Vincent> oh I ment to ask... but is Kubuntu planned to be sponsered for ship-it CDs for Dapper?
[11:22] <kubuntu_tester> when I insert it nothing happens
[11:22] <kubuntu_tester> can someone give me an advice?
[11:23] <kubuntu_tester> I tried to restart pcmcia service
[11:23] <kubuntu_tester> looked at the end of '/var/log/messages'
[11:23] <kubuntu_tester> but no output about if from kernel
[11:25] <Xaero_Vincent> the talking just stopped :/
[11:33] <farticus> hey y'all
[11:34] <ralc> Hey guys. I have a problem with getting kdevelop using adept. Error message when i try to get kdevelop3: There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.  kdevelop
[11:40] <ninHer> hi all
[11:43] <mark---> I'm using K3B to try to burn Dapper; running Breezy. It took about an hour to write the CD and will appear to take 5 (five, funf) hours to verify. It's been verifying now for two hours and just hit 22% complete. We'll, I'm hoping Dapper will be better.
[11:50] <Blissex> mark---: how slow is your writer? Should take at most 15 mins on most writers built in the last 5 years...