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Random_Transitno....this wasn't installed via a DEB, Jimmey12:00
WarboRandom_Transit: Many games make one anyway12:00
phatmonkeyWarbo: hmmm, how can I change the default settings? there seems to be no option in xorg.conf12:00
Kumobiovore: ok12:00
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rabewith the help of this tutorial: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Surround_Sound, I finally managed to get SOUND from the 2 front speaker + the center + subwoofer. The 2 rear-speakers, however, are still silent (of my 5.1 system)!? Anyone could help?12:00
Raven301erUSUL: I'm trying to edit it12:00
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Snow_Shelter112:00
Snow_Shelter(sry)12:00
cafuegoRandom_Transit: For future reference: `checkinstall'.12:00
erUSULRaven301: /boot/grub/menu.lst12:00
Warbophatmonkey: I could only suggest dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but that asks for RANGES not actual values12:00
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phatmonkeyyeah12:00
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mundiis there a way to speed up internet connection in ubuntu having dhcp set up cos is working too slow12:01
rakz0Hithere! how can I have permision to write on my windows partition ?12:01
Kumobiovore: everything is fine according with that12:01
Jimmey__mundi, check your DNS addresses are correct12:01
HymnToLife!tell rakz0 about ntfs12:01
Jimmey__rakz0, can't be done12:01
phatmonkeyWarbo: I've entered the range from my monitor manual, but by default it uses 85hz, which is too much for the display12:01
newbuntuwhats the best way to see exactly what kind of ati video card I have?12:01
eneriedhello boys12:01
phatmonkey75hz works, and that's what I've set in the gnome settings12:01
biovoreKumo: try sudo apt-get install openoffice.org212:01
cafuegonewbuntu: ;lspci'12:01
mjrnewbuntu, lspci | grep VGA12:01
Raven301erUSUL: thanks12:02
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HymnToLifenewbuntu> read the manual of the card, eh :p12:02
Warbophatmonkey: Maybe change the monitor ranges to ones that aren't actually right, but solve the problem12:02
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newbuntuthx12:02
teunFred: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12696  <-- my 'working' snmpd.conf on one of my boxes12:02
newbuntutying that12:02
newbuntutrying even12:02
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Kumobiovore: openoffice is already updated12:02
enerieddoes anybody know how to compile a source but getting a .deb not instlling it?12:02
newbuntuVGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4153  is what it says12:02
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Kumobiovore: the latest version12:02
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phatmonkeyWarbo: how do I calculate these ranges? they don't seem to correspond12:03
o_oHi, anyone know how to install the 6.06 Beta Live CD on a USB stick?12:03
Warboeneried: checkinstall -D I think12:03
rabewith the help of this tutorial: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Surround_Sound, I finally managed to get SOUND from the 2 front speaker + the center + subwoofer. The 2 rear-speakers, however, are still silent (of my 5.1 system)!? Anyone could help?12:03
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luisitowill dapper include Xgl?12:03
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Warbophatmonkey: No idea sorry12:03
Raven301erUSUL: how do you change the default startup os??12:03
pppoe_dudehi12:03
FredThanks teun. could you tell me what "snmpd --version" gives you, so I can see if my version is right?12:03
Warboluisito: No, but it's easy enough to get12:03
phatmonkeyWarbo: ok, thanks for the help12:03
eneriedo_o see if there's an installer on the live CD, fourm said it will be developed to final version12:03
luisitoWarbo, and it is very stable?12:03
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teunFred: NET-SNMP version:  5.2.212:04
o_oeneried, yes, my plan exactly =) downloading as we speak, thx12:04
FredThanks teun, mine is the same :)12:04
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teunok :)12:04
Random_Transitok....fixed, thanks everyone....btw, you should really check out this game, fun as hell....12:04
Warboluisito: Well it's as stable as Xgl at the moment (Dapper doesn't make it any less stable) but that is a bit unusable at the moment. I've had no porblems with crashing though12:04
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PrinterAnyone help with my printer problem?  Is there a log file I can check when a job doesn't print?12:04
eneriedWarbo, checkinstall is a parameter of make?12:04
Warboeneried: checkinstall is a package and utility12:05
newbuntuI think I have all the ati drives in right but tux game plays badly on a radeon 955012:05
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eneriedWarbo - ah, and checkinstall let me create the deb from source code... it isn't?12:05
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GTroyI can't get my usb netgear wg111 rcognized12:05
Warboeneried: By default it installs the .deb so just to make it I think you give it the option -D12:06
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luisitoWarbo, ok :) . good to know.12:06
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eneriedthanks ;)12:06
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GTroyit worked fine under breezy, and dapper alpha12:06
rabewith the help of this tutorial: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Surround_Sound, I finally managed to get SOUND from the 2 front speaker + the center + subwoofer. The 2 rear-speakers, however, are still silent (of my 5.1 system)!? Anyone could help?12:06
GTroy:(12:06
FredTeun, what do I put as the "community" in snmp monitoring apps?12:06
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jendaHow could I minimalise Neverwinter Nights? Alt Tab doesn't work. But it's possible, because when a new conversation pops up in gaim, it usually dose it automatically... In fact, switching to windowed mode would suffice...12:07
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Warboluisito: If you are coming from Windows it is perfectly usable. I'm too used to nice Window Manager controls (and I miss E16) like On Top and Sticky. Also Xine playback gets screwed up12:07
eneriednow i have a question. i'll make the deb if the deb doesn't exuste where can i find a final version of amule?12:07
erUSULRaven301: edit the line that begins with defoult in the beginnig of the file and put there the number corresponding with the stanza the os you want to boot is (it begins in 0). in a tipycal install putting 'default    3' will boot windblows by default12:07
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jivahhi, i ve just installed ubuntu, and i have problems to find my windows partitions12:07
Raven301Thank you very much erUSUL :)12:08
jivahcan somebody help me please12:08
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HymnToLife!tell jivah about ntfs12:08
Warbojivah: "ls /dev/hd*" will list internal drives and partitions12:08
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eneriedi ask again, can i find an amule 2.1 (or higher) .deb package?12:08
HymnToLifeWarbo> I think sudo fdisk -l will work better here12:08
Warboeneried: Try checkinstall first, then ask amule people maybe?12:09
WarboHymnToLife: Oh yeah, forgot about that :)12:09
Kumobiovore: any idea?12:09
luisitoWarbo, well, it is on pampers yet. we have to let it grow a little more.12:09
biovoreKumo: nope..12:09
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eneried... OK i'll try do do as uyou dsaid, thanks a lot ;)12:09
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Warboluisito: I want something which doesn't require a new Window Manager. (maybe AIGLX does this)12:10
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Kumobiovore: thank you anyway, I can live without aptitude I guess12:10
biovoreKumo: it might fix its self..12:10
coz_Amaranth, still can't edit the icons in debian menu12:10
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biovoreKumo: I think someones package as a bugus dependancy in it..12:10
Kumobiovore: yeah, maybe in dapper12:10
DA_MELKMANHello there... I'm complete new with Linux, and I'd like to try Ubuntu. There's a problem you guys might be able to help me with.. I downloaded the .iso, burned it on a cd, and now I want to install Ubuntu.12:11
DA_MELKMANthe problem is that after the cdrom boots12:11
DA_MELKMANand I choose 'start ubuntu'12:11
DA_MELKMANi see some processes starting, looks all normal12:11
jivahthanks for your answer , i ll try your advice12:11
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FredTeun, i had to kill -9 the snmpd to restart it fully, but snmpwalk returns info now :D12:12
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DA_MELKMANthen my screen blanks (and the power LED turns orange, as if my screen doesn't get a signal)12:12
majdHi, i can't seem to be able to get more than one workspace...i'm on dapper with xgl and compiz12:12
FredHowever my netmrg-gather reports problems still12:12
luisitoWarbo, well, if it is going to use 3d technology I think the window manager will be reinvented. For a full 3d desktop experience I think.12:12
trainstrokerhow do i enable my ext3 partition in windows12:12
geek|sauceare there any tools that can re-size an ntfs partition without wiping it?12:12
paxDA_MELKMAN: laptop?12:12
teunFred: what kind of probs?12:12
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Warbomajd: There should be 4. Try ctrl-alt left and right.12:12
DA_MELKMANI hear an install sound right after that...12:12
mlehrergeek|sauce: partition magic12:12
Syco54645crap i was playing a game and it crashed.  now my screen scrolls because it kept the games resolution.  how can i fix this???  i do not want to kill x12:12
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DA_MELKMANpax: no, dell 24 " screen :)12:13
majdWarbo: nope...nothing12:13
axismeil take your screen off your hands...12:13
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geek|saucemlehrer: i meant for linux12:13
geek|sauceand for free :)12:13
majdi right clicked on it, put Number of Workspaces to 4, but nothing12:13
majdaxisme: i got xgl and compiz to work :)12:13
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axismeexcellent12:13
spookqtparted on a knoppix live cd geek12:13
FredTeun, it says "[Dev: 0001]  [Sub: 0002]  Interface subdevice has no interface parameters."12:13
axismewhat was the problem?12:13
Warboluisito: I was thinking now that we have translucency maybe take away "focus on click" to enable using buttons obscured by a translucent window. Would need some ergonomic research...12:14
jivahthanks it worked12:14
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majdaxisme: video card12:14
teunFred: hmmm12:14
DA_MELKMANso I hear this sound coming from my speakers, but i don't see anything.. I also already tried 'safe graphics'12:14
teunFred: doesn't ring a bell :(12:14
spook test12:14
jivahi need now to install xvid video codec12:14
Kumobiovore: I think I'll uncomment almost all my sources and reinstall using just a few of them12:14
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ali7ll12:14
[cro] smileydoes anyone know how to fix this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10890612:14
[cro] smiley12:14
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FredTeun: ok thanks. do you know why it says my system uptime is only 3 minutes from snmp? the actual uptime is about 50 days...12:15
DA_MELKMANpax: is it a common problem then?12:15
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paxDA_MELKMAN: what version are you trying to install?12:15
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trainstrokerhow do i enable my ext3 partition in windows12:15
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teunFred: hmmm no, sorry12:15
FredOk thanks again teun :-)12:15
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geek|saucewell, i don't have enough hard drive space on my linux partition, so i'm gonna have to finish these downloads in windows.  someday i'll make the switch...12:16
biovoretrainstroker: there is a program called ext3fsd for windows that allows windows to "mount" an ext3 parttion.. works ok for me12:16
eneriedtrainstroker use the ifsdrives, ext2 is ike an ext2 partition so ifsdrives works12:16
HymnToLifetrainstroker> google for ext2fsd12:16
jomurahola12:16
teunFred: yw12:16
HymnToLifeit allows read/write to ext3 from windows12:16
geek|saucethanks for your help guys...later12:16
trainstrokeris it ext2fsd or ext3fsd12:16
jivahWarbo, can you help me to install xvid video codec12:16
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jomurahere I can speack12:17
Warbojivah: Yes. Do you have Universe?12:17
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eneriedjivah, install the gstreamer-plugins12:17
HymnToLifetrainstroker> as eneried said, ext2 and ext3 is basically the same thing12:17
jivahunfortunately no warbo!!!12:17
eneriedjivah, or install w32codecs12:17
jomurakkkkkkkkkkk12:17
antarusSeveas: cleaning a bit?12:17
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jivahit's my first day in linux, please be comprehensive12:17
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Seveasyep12:18
Warbojivah: System>Admin>Synaptic Settings>Repos>Add check Universe and Multiverse OK, OK etc. Search "gstreamer" in synaptic. Have fun12:18
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jomuraAnyone can confirm that I can be readed?12:18
eneriedjivah, you must enable the universe and multiverse repositories, try to do it in the synaptic installer12:18
antarusSeveas: any bots today?12:18
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Warbojomura: I can see you12:18
Seveasantarus, I haven't been around much today, wouldn't know12:19
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jivaheneried, where is system12:19
jomuraWhy I can't speac in ubuntu-es12:19
Warbojivah: System menu at the top12:19
jomuraI will try again12:19
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KillazHey guys I'm trying to make my life "very hard" by installing ubuntu in server mode and doing everything with CL...12:19
eneriedjivah, look at the top12:19
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HymnToLifeKillaz> have fun :p12:20
eneriedjivah, there are thre menus the third12:20
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Shaun2222whats the root password on the live cd?12:20
Killazwhere can I find a nice doc/nutshell where I can lookup for some info.... specific for ubuntu12:20
jomuraI can't solve dis problem "Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel"12:20
eneriedShaun2222, there's no root password12:20
rakz0Hithere! how can I have permision to WRITE on my windows partition ? I have permission To Read Only .. if I try to upload a txt file ubuntu tell me ( filename encoding is corrupt )12:20
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Killazthe manual for ubuntu is great but usefull only if you have teh full-installation12:21
Shaun2222eneried: i try to su and hit enter and says sorry...12:21
eneriedShaun2222, open users/gropus and set one for root12:21
Warborakz0: Is it Fat32 or NTFS? NTFS has no write12:21
rakz0NTFS12:21
HymnToLifeshaun222> use sudo -i12:21
Warborakz0: You're out of luck :(12:21
jomura how can I have permision to WRITE on #ubuntu-es12:21
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eneriedjomura, try #ubuntu-es instead of only ubuntu-es12:21
eneriedjomura maybe this is the problem12:21
Warbojomura: Maybe you need to "register" because they have been getting bots?12:22
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jomuraI can connect to the channel12:22
Killazfor example I want to look up for some info about apt-get.... how can I set it up for ubuntu12:22
jomurabut I cannot write12:22
rakz0Warbo - Can I copy the file ???12:22
o_ois there anyone who knows how to install Ubuntu 6.06 LiveCD on a USB stick within WinXP?12:22
HymnToLifejomura> seems you need to register your nickname, type /msg nickserv register password mail_address12:22
WarboKillaz: Go to "man apt-get" first12:22
jomurathnks12:22
jomurathans12:22
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BlueSwirlyeah, i'm sure even the text only ubuntu install comes with apt-get installed12:23
jomuraI can't write english12:23
Warborakz0: You can copy the file FROM NTFS to somewhere else, but not change anything on the disk (read-only in other words)12:23
HymnToLifereally ? I'm pretty sure you just did12:23
jomuraI have never estudied english12:23
Shaun2222eneried: open users/groups?12:23
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rakz0Thanx Warbo12:23
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Warborakz0: Want to petition Microsoft to open up NTFS? :)12:24
eneriedo_o: there's no installer n the live CD? i'll try to do that from the ubuntu itself, from windows you'll have the trouble that windows doesn't have the full support to file system needed12:24
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hachreWarbo, lol good luck with that12:24
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[cro] smiley12:25
[cro] smileydoes anyone know how to fix this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10890612:25
[cro] smiley12:25
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eneriedjomura: System->Administration->Users & Groups12:25
Warbohachre: Linux adds support to closed NTFS to it's kernel. Why doesn't Microsoft add support for openly documented ext3, reiser, etc. to it's kernel? Oh yeah... :)12:25
HymnToLifeWarbo> too much hassle... who the hell cares about ntfs anyway ?12:25
eneriedjomura, yo hablo espaol12:25
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hachreWarbo: they arent even able to get NTFS replaced in Vista12:25
njanWarbo, rakz0, NTFS support is a bit better than that. "Still mostly read-only, but with safe file overwrite support on all Windows versions including changes to the file size (uncompressed, unencrypted, non-sparse files only)."12:25
KillazWarbo: thnx I will12:25
eneriedjomura, te decia que intentaras anteponer el # al canal ubuntu-es12:25
hachreWarbo: i honestly think they arent _able_ to :P12:25
njanhachre, that's because they've just augmented NTFS - there are several versions, it isn't like it's the same thing they've been using since NT.12:26
phatmonkeyI swear I'm going to use windows if I hear that startup sound again (I'm warning you!!!) - how do I stop the sounds?! I have removed them from preferences/sound/system events, but they refuse to go away!!12:26
Shaun2222their must be a root password for the live cd other wise i could just hit enter and log in as root...12:26
Warbonjan: I know write support can change a file (useful for emulated harddrives and such), but I'm still not sure of the FUSE ntfs abilities12:26
hachrenjan: well ntfs hasnt exactly evolved to a great fs since ntfs 412:26
phatmonkeythis happens on all 3 of my ubuntu boxes12:26
njanWarbo, there are several open soruce windows EXT2/3 drivers, too.12:26
Shaun2222theri is no usrs/groups btw either, i'm in X as the ubuntu user... uid 100012:26
HymnToLifephatmonkey> unplug your speakers :p12:26
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eneriedShaun2222, you can set one for password from the option i said,12:26
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Warbonjan: I haven't bothered looking12:26
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Shaun2222eneried: it's not there12:27
eneriedthen if you're trying to log into a graphic session you must tell the GDM to enable that12:27
phatmonkeyhmm, found a bug report on launchpad about it12:27
eneriedby default root cannot start a graphic session12:27
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njanhachre, NTFS is quite a nice FS. It supports a wide range of file permissions and attributes, it's stable, it's journalled, it supports compression and encryption..12:27
Warbophatmonkey: Delete the sound files (in /usr/share) if you have to12:27
domsterschI'm having trouble with fontconfig: I can't get it to replace /etc/fonts/local.conf and it keeps complaining that it can't read it ('Fontconfig error: cannot read default . What can I try?12:27
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Varthphatmonkey: It's an option under the Login screen setup, I think, if you're referring the godawfully annoying drums12:28
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eneriedSHaun2222, but you found the users/groups control i said? then clic on a checkbox  "showall"12:28
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hachrenjan: i think it's getting much too slow with fragmentation, and it's horrid when having many files in a folder12:28
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Warbonjan: Isn't the compression just like Linux supports zlib? The filesystem image is not compressed12:28
Shaun2222eneried: no didnt find it..12:29
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njanWarbo, it's LZ77.12:29
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Warbonjan: I mean it compresses files individually, not the image. (BTW, is LZ77 based on LZX?)12:29
hachreWarbo: as far as i know its file compression yes12:30
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Shaun2222eneried: ok i got it.. thanks12:30
phatmonkeyremoving the sound from /etc/sound/events/gnome-something worked12:30
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phatmonkeythank goodness12:30
eneriedShaunn, there are three menus at the screen top, the third must be system, then look inside for administration or management, not sure, here mine it's not in english, and then look for a users & groups icon, click it12:30
Shaun2222it was looking under the wrong section12:30
Warbohachre: I started compressing an NTFS drive once but gave up. Some files were blue in Explorer others weren't12:30
eneriedShaun2222 ;)12:31
hachreWarbo: yep12:31
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deanInstalled ubuntu today, its pro <312:31
gpmis dapper more or less safe to use these days?12:31
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Warbonjan: Do you know about the LZ77 and LZX I asked? I know microsoft use LZX in CAB12:31
Warbogpm: Pretty much12:31
gpmWarbo: kewl. time to switch from debian :)12:32
eneriedShaunn2222, theres a diferent option there to GDM this is the graphical logon manager12:32
Warbogpm: I hope that's not using apt :)12:32
jcoleis there a linux utility to undelete files on a fat32 partition?12:32
gpmWarbo: haha, no.12:32
njanWarbo, I have no idea - I just know NTFS uses LZ77, I've never heard of LZX.12:32
gpmWarbo: backup the data and boot/format12:32
gpmboot=boot of CD12:32
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gpm+f12:32
gpmjeez12:32
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gpmok bye12:32
Warbogpm: many are switching to Dapper for XGL. I remember switching to Breezy prerelease to get KDE 3.5 (translucency yay!)12:32
WarboAAA! Gone12:33
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Warbonjan: So you won't be able to answer my question about lha in the repos then (it doesn't understand anything, but I downloaded one that did and file-roller uses it fine)12:34
jivaheneried, Warbo i installed "gstreamer" but i did not get the expected fun ... my xvid file don't work12:34
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Warbojivah: Did you install the gstreamer-plugins and gstreamer-plugins-multiverse packages?12:34
mahercani get root in a virtual terminal off a live cd?12:34
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jivahi did indeed12:35
Killazuhm I'm trying to install mysql using apt-get instal mysql12:35
njanWarbo, nope.12:35
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njanmaher, yes.12:35
Warbojivah: Also, you must use a player that uses gstreamer (in other words totem-gstreamer)12:35
eneriedjivah, then install the gstreamer plugins12:35
mahernjan: how?12:35
KillazPackage mysql is is not availbale.....?12:35
eneriedjivah and the multiverse plugins12:35
njanmaher, do you mean root on the livecd or root on the system the livecd is running on?12:35
mahernjan: on the live cd12:35
Killazbut is refered to by another package12:36
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jivahWarbo, totem says There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins12:36
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njanmaher, there's usually just a link. Or failing that, sudo /bin/bash12:36
Linux_Junkiedoes anyone know how to keep your synaptics touch from going out of sync and losing bits ?12:36
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mahernjan cool - thanks12:36
borgistaI can't figure out NFS sharing. UGH!!!12:36
njanmaher, yw12:36
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Warbojivah: Are you using totem-xine or totem-gstreamer? gstreamer>gstreamer-plugins xine>w32codecs12:36
jivaheneried, yes i selected all plugings and installed them12:36
njanborgista, http://www.educ.umu.se/~bjorn/linux/howto/NFS-HOWTO-7.html12:36
biovoreborgista: sudo apt-get install nfs-server nfs-common12:37
eneriedjivah, wich totem do you have? there're two tomes totem-gstremaer, based on gstreamer and totem-xine, based on xine12:37
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jivahWarbo, which totem shold i use12:37
biovoreborgista: then edit /etc/exports  (see man exports for what gose in this file)12:37
mahlergood morning12:37
eneriedjivah, then shut down totem and open it again letim it to load again the codec list12:37
Warbojivah: totem-gstreamer since you just installed the codecs12:37
borgistawill try12:37
jivahWarbo,  i am using the gstreamer12:38
eneriedjivah, if you use totem-gstreamer, xvid codec is in gstreamer-plugins or gstreamer-plugins-multiverse12:38
Warbojivah: Are you sure it is XVID?12:38
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jivahWarbo,  yes i am12:39
eneriedjivah, if you installed totem-xine, you must install w32codecs instead of gstreamer-plugins, but a best solution is to install gxine for w32codecs, and totem-gstreamer for the other plugins we said12:39
Warbojivah: I use XVID all of the time with totem-gstreamer. Does it work in mplayer? (if so you can convert it with mencoder to use in anything)12:39
eneriedjivah, so if tottem-gstreamer didint work you use gxine to view videos12:40
Warboeneried: The only thing I like about GXine is it's radio stations (2 of them I like which work)12:40
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gibbsterhi. does anyone know whether I can dual boot ubuntu and windows with windows stuck at the back of the disk?12:41
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solace1369hello again12:41
Warbogibbster: You should be able to12:41
solace1369i found an answer12:41
amadonhello anybody thjere?12:41
solace1369i'm here12:41
treeformtons12:41
gibbsterWarbo: ohh... great. I know at one point you needed to have the windows partition either first, or before 1024 sectors, or something like that12:42
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amadonthanks God this my 1st time ever in this chat and i need help12:42
eneriedWarbo, XD here we use it only as plan B12:42
solace1369uh oh12:42
_jasonamadon: what's up?12:42
solace1369well ask away12:42
gibbsterWarbo: if you're right, I'm as happy as a pig in shit12:42
gibbstersdf12:42
Killazguys how can I explicitly install/select one package if there are more then one?12:42
Warbogibbster: I think you can use GRUB to trick Windows12:43
Killazfor example ssh-server?12:43
amadonwell this is my problen recently i start using Ubuntu Linux in my pc and i'm lost in some things12:43
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_jasonKillaz: what program are you using?12:43
Killazapt-get12:43
jivahWarbo, eneried by the way even the sound is not working, my files may be corrupted12:43
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Killaz_jason: apt-get12:43
_jasonKillaz: what do you mean more than one? like from different repos?12:43
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redguyKillaz: ? more than one what?12:43
Warbojivah: Doubt it is corruption12:43
redguyKillaz: more than one version?12:43
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gibbsterWarbo: excellent. You don't know where I should look to find out about this trickage?12:44
biovoreKillaz:: you ever do a sudo apt-get update then a sudo apt-get upgrade?12:44
eneriedjivah, did you see it after with a different player?12:44
Warbogibbster: Don't know. Sorry. Ask generally someone may know12:44
spookHi, I'm trying to ssh over the net to view a security cam attached to a comp at home.12:44
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gibbsterWarbo: thanks. I'll browse... ;-)12:44
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spookIf I use "ssh -X spook@home xawtv -remote" it's ok but ...12:45
KillazI'm trying to install ssh-server using apt-get I get this message: Package ss-server is a virtual package provided by: openssh-server 1:4.1p1-7ubuntu4.112:45
amadoni try to install limewire and real player but i dont know how12:45
HymnToLifeKillaz> then install openssh-server :)12:45
biovoreKillaz:: sudo apt-get install openssh12:45
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kbrookswhy would a package be kept back?12:45
KillazYou should explicitly select one to install12:45
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redguyKillaz: so then, how about installing openssh-server?12:45
jivahWarbo, eneried ok i am sorry, i selecteg wrong pluggins, it works now12:45
InnerFIREamadon view ubuntuguide.org12:45
Warboamadon: OK. Limewire first. I will say right now that you may prefer gtk-gnutella12:45
_jason!ubuntuguide12:46
ubotusomebody said ubuntuguide was out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead12:46
Warboamadon: I will walk you though both if you want though12:46
HymnToLifeor, even better, buy your CDs12:46
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spookif I use "ssh -X spook@home tvtime" I get a long message about No XVIDEO port found which supports YU2 images. Any ideas?12:46
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_jasonubotu: tell amadon about realplayer12:46
spookYUY2 even12:46
_jasonamadon: I'd recommend frostwire over limewire12:46
Warbojivah: lol12:46
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_jasonubotu: tell amadon about frostwire12:46
jivahWarbo, eneried but the sound does not work12:46
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eneriedjivah, ;) enjoy linux ;)12:46
jivahWarbo, eneried lol12:47
Warbo_jason: I've heard frostwire mentioned but don't know what it is. (I know frost for freenet though...)12:47
amadonok im going to try both12:47
glimphello could anyone help me configure the samba, i can see it already on networkneighborhood but cant browse it12:47
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didinuxHello all, i want to install both php4 and php5 in one apache2 instance .. plz help.12:47
Warboamadon: WAIT! Do you know how to use Synaptic before you go off on Google?12:47
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boabstaglimp, there is a good guide here : http://www.howtoforge.com/samba_setup_ubuntu_5.1012:47
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HymnToLifeglimp> is the share on an ubuntu box ?12:48
eneriedglimp, go to shared folders in the system menu and set the workgroup12:48
amadonand i also have an ipod movie wich software i need to usit on linux?12:48
glimpokay thanks i'll browse the link12:48
HymnToLife!tell amadon about ipod12:48
amadonno idint Warbo12:48
Warboamadon: First things first. Do you know about Synaptic and Universe?12:48
glimpokay thanks to the reply guys12:48
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jivaheneried, well i'm enjoying it , and i ll enjoy it better if i get the sound..... i have some seinfeld's on waiting...12:48
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Warboamadon: OK. System>Administration>Syanptic Package Manager. Do everything with that if possible12:48
boabstaglimp, u might want to read http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=328802&rl=1 too12:48
amadonno im very new on that os12:48
enerieddoes anybody know how to decompress a .bz2 file via command line?12:49
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_jasoneneried: bunzip212:49
eneried;) thanks12:49
glimpyeah thanks for the link it will be helpfull12:49
HymnToLifeeneried> man tar12:49
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Warboeneried: bunzip2 I think12:49
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newbuntuim loving ubuntu12:49
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boabstaubuntu rox12:49
newbuntu...execpt firefox crashes12:49
newbuntuit crashes for me with nvida ati card and without12:50
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CrocoJetanyone here use Ubuntu dapper to access other computer with win 98 ?12:50
boabstaexplain "crashes"12:50
Warboamadon: Inside Synaptic go on Settings>Repositories>Add and check the boxes for Universe and Multiverse. Then go OK, Yes, etc. until you get back to Synaptic12:50
HymnToLifenvidia ati card ? damn12:50
HymnToLifethat must rock12:50
CrocoJetI am gettin problems ... too many connections12:50
spookI only treid ubuntu today but it's great so far, bit odd on the TV card but everything else works. Very nice distro indeed.12:50
newbuntuit dissappears (after installing java and flash )12:50
eneried;)12:51
Warbospook: My TV card showed black and white12:51
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capiCrimmanyone know how to change the language in winecfg, it's defaulting to russian for me?12:51
newbuntudoes your mozilla crash often... just dissapear>?12:51
CrocoJetis possible to install firefox 1.5 in breezy ?12:51
_jason!ff1.512:51
meepHey people. I just reinstalled my Ubuntu system after yeah, screwing my kernel. Anyway, I noticed I now can not open "Menu editor" it just lies in taskbar and auto quit again after 20 seconds. Anyone know whats wrong?12:51
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion12:51
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spookwarbo: with xawtv and/or tvtime?12:51
newbuntumaybe I have to new a version of firefox12:51
CrocoJetthanks let me see12:51
Warbospook: TVTime I think12:51
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jivahwarbo please help me i am starving, my mp3 is working but no sound12:51
boabstanewbuntu, try running it from the command line to see if any errors show up12:51
eneried now how to untar a file?12:51
boabstaeneried, tar -xzvf12:52
Warbojivah: Do you get sound for anything?12:52
_jasoneneried: tar xf file12:52
jivahwarbo, no12:52
boabstaeneried, tar -xvf12:52
|GBH|I should start a Ubuntu-no-gui channel I think....12:52
boabsta:)12:52
spookwarbo: xawtv works for me, just curious I guess. I took a while to get the -remote option before that worked. Can't see one in tvtime12:52
Eevening all. quick, rather stupid question, how do I copy a bunch of folders?12:52
_jasoneneried: you can take car of a tar.bz2 with one command: tar xjf file.tar.bz212:52
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boabstaE, cp -R12:52
Warbojivah: OK, does "Device Manager" know what your soundcard is?12:52
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ER? thanx bobsta, will give it a try.12:53
eneriedthanks _jason12:53
|GBH|actually -R is recursive12:53
dliE, try "cp -a "12:53
Eokay, so... :)12:53
spookAt least I can take pictures of any robbing b'stards coming into my house now, gawd love broad band :)12:53
boabstaE, cp -R source_folder dest_folder12:53
jivahwarbo, by the way do you know this chinese proverb, if you save life of someone, you have to take care of him all his life...12:53
|GBH|if you do cp <folder1> <folder2> <foldern> <destination> that'll work too12:53
E...getting mixed.. signals... wil ltry both12:53
boabstaE, dli s way is better :)12:53
newbuntuof course firefox wont crash when im trying to moniter it  lol12:54
boabstaE, im drunnk dont pay attention12:54
Warbojivah: Give a man a fish he eats for today. Teach him how to fish and he can help other people play XVID in Ubuntu :)12:54
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muraiiubotu12:54
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Ecp * /blah only returns several lines saying "cp: omitting directory 'dir'"12:54
dliWarbo, that's a Chinese saying12:54
jivahwarbo is it the mao version12:54
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boabstaWarbo, teach a man to light a fire he'll be warm for a day, set a man alight he'll be warm for the rest of his life12:55
amadonthaks warbo let me play al ittle and see what happen12:55
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Warboboabsta: Exactly12:55
Edli, you're my new hero12:55
amadoni return later thanks for your help12:55
|GBH|E: you will need -R then as well ;12:55
|GBH|)12:55
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jivahwarbo for the sound card i think it recognized it12:55
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Ewill I? it worked with just -a12:56
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Warbojivah: OK, for the most basic sound test you can try "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" and use ctrl-c to stop it (in a terminal)12:56
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dliE, you can use "cp -a" to copy away your whole ubuntu installation :)12:56
newbuntufirefox crash data  from terminal   http://pastebin.com/67433612:56
dlinewbuntu, firefox is known to crash, upgrade to 1.5.0.212:57
boabstaE, cp * /blah will need -R, cp -a should copy all sub dirs too12:57
Ealright. thanx all of you! :)12:57
Warbo|GBH|: Will it run win32 application? :)12:57
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newbuntuis it better to remove then reinstall   or upgrade firefox?12:57
dlinewbuntu, no difference12:57
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boabstanewbuntu, what happened when you ran it from a cmd line?12:58
newbuntuim using version 1.0712:58
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boabstanewbuntu, grab 1.08.0 quickly ;)12:58
dlinewbuntu, 1.07 to 1.5.0.1 all crash12:58
memphis68hallo12:58
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jivahwarbo it says device in use12:58
boabsta1.0.8 even, sigh, hick12:59
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Warbojivah: Hmmm. OK. That may be good, it may be bad12:59
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jivahwarbo i think the sound card is not recognized01:00
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newbuntuis 1.08 a joke? I cant see it anywhere01:00
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WarboCan anyone help jivah with his sound? I'm a little stupid in that area and I'm hungry01:00
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boabstahow do you run a script when you plug in a new device (USB memory stick)01:01
Shaun2222when installing openssh it generates the keys and what not for /etc/ssh/*  what utility checks for those and builds them or is it just a script in the .deb thats doing it...01:01
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MathmanShaun222: probably /etc/init.d/sshd or whatever.01:01
boabstanewbuntu, 1.0.801:01
warbringer87hello01:02
eneriedjivah lok under system in media or sound and check if the system doesn't know your card01:02
aryanhello01:02
jivahwarbo come on don't underestimate yourself, it is very bad for your ego lol01:02
warbringer87I heard that supposedly you can instal KDE instead of GNOME for ubuntu?01:02
Mathmanjivah: what's dmesg say about your sound card?  are modules loaded, that sorta thing?01:02
boabstanewbuntu, should be available after you update apt01:02
Mathmanwarbringer87: course01:02
warbringer87how01:02
Mathmanwarbringer87: apt-get kde or some such nonsense.  that would be one way01:02
HymnToLifewarbringer87> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktopyou can even keep both installed if you want01:02
boabstawarbringer87, kubuntu if you want to install from scratch01:02
warbringer87in terminal?01:02
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HymnToLifewarbringer87> yes01:03
muraii___I really don't understand what's up with my connection.01:03
boabstawarbringer87, i heard those folk were a bit funny recently though ;)01:03
warbringer87also, i have 5.04 ubuntu, does that change anything?01:03
muraii___I keep getting busted off.01:03
spookwarbringer: I asked pretty much the same and they said yep. I look in to the system/synaptic package manager and it looks like a job for tomorrow01:03
HymnToLifeor install kubuntu-desktop if you prefer Synaptic01:03
muraii___Anyone else experiencing that on freenode.net?01:03
Shaun2222Mathman: on RH based distros thats true, but not debian..01:03
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MathmanShaun222: say what?  so debian doesn't have init scripts?  that's not true.01:04
boabstamuraii, nope, not yet01:04
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HymnToLifewarbringer87> I suggest you upgrade to breezy first01:04
MathmanShaun222: I mean, sure, I may not have the directory exactly right off the top of my head.01:04
newbuntuif you go to the grateful deads site http://www.dead.net/index2.php    does your plugins work to make the site visible?01:04
djk_mmh, is there a size limit of swap?01:04
HymnToLife!upgrade01:04
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .01:04
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Shaun2222mathman: no.... in RH init scripts it will rebuild them if they are missing... with debian it wont01:04
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dliHymnToLife, just get the sources.list, and "apt-get --yes --force-yes dist-upgrade"01:05
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newbuntuI cany see that page in konqueror and only half of it in firefox01:05
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jivahMathman, i don't see any occurences concerning my sound card01:05
MathmanShaun222: alrighty.01:05
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boabstaShaun222, if your init scripts go missing is there not a bigger problem to deal with?01:05
warbringer87whats is breezy, one of the newer builds of ubuntu?01:05
TuxClonHere I am01:05
newbuntuits a badger01:05
Shaun2222boabsta: not the init scripts... the /etc/ssh/*key* files01:05
Mathmanjivah: well, loading the modules you'd need would be the first step.01:05
hesemesich cant install capiutils and fritz firmware on dapper, someonw know the problem?01:05
newbuntubreezy badger01:05
HymnToLifewarbringer87> yes, the one you have (5.04) is Hoary, Breezy is 5.1001:05
ggilbertwarbringer87: Breezy Badger is the current stable release of Ubuntu01:05
eggzeckwarbringer87, it's a new version01:05
boabstaShaun222, k01:06
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Shaun2222boabsta: with RH based distros when starting ssh it checks for them and if they arnt their builds them...01:06
jivahMathman, how and where01:06
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Shaun2222i ported that over to debian/ubuntu01:06
boabstaShaun222, k01:06
newbuntuUbuntu is so slick its amazing01:06
MathmanShaun222: gotta be in the .deb then.  I mean, where else would it be?01:06
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Shaun2222but was wondering if their was a script that debian had to do that because it does it while installing openssh01:06
newbuntui'll never go back to rpms01:06
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xuserHi, What's the defualt root pass?01:06
Mathmanjivah: that would depend on your sound card.  my system it would be something like "modprobe i8x0_sound"01:06
HymnToLife!tell xuser about root01:06
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dlixuser, "sudo -i" use the passwd of the first user01:07
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warbringer87heh, well, kubuntu or whatnot is 36%01:07
boabstaxuser, you have to enable the root user in ubuntu01:07
warbringer87thanks guys :P01:07
shadeofgreyhow do i load xine the video application from commandline?01:07
bc_hallo all01:07
dj-fu`xine file.avi`01:07
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boabstaxuser, use sudo blah instead and enter your normal users password01:07
spooknewbuntu: I've installed fedora core 5 and ubuntu this last week and I'm a RedHat CE. Ubuntu is really good from what I see :)01:07
HymnToLifewarbringer87> afaik, You'll only get KDE 3.4 from here01:07
dlixuser, however, I hate sudo, so, "sudo passwd" to enable root now01:07
bc_anyone can help me01:07
Mathmannewbuntu: rpms aren't much different than .debs.  now if you say you won't go back to redhat or something, fine.  but I'll call ya on rpm fud.01:07
HymnToLifethen you shoul upgrade your KD to 3.5.201:07
xuserdli: i see, thanks.01:08
xuserboabsta: thanks.01:08
newbuntuwhats the differnce between kbuntu  and kubuntu-desktop   seems that the latter gives you way move features01:08
xuserHymnToLife: :)01:08
newbuntuyah was thinking of mandrake01:08
jivahMathman, i think it is integrated in my mother board01:08
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bc_how can i load icewm01:08
HymnToLifenewbuntu> kubuntu-desktop instlls basially the same thing than the Kubuntu CD does (ie kde + lots of other apps)01:08
boabstanewbuntu, yeah? what extra features? (no to mandrake to be honest)01:08
Mathmanjivah: what is it?  lspci?  that would maybe give you some clues.01:08
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dj-fuenabling root is bad mk01:08
dj-fu-i  The -i (simulate initial login) option runs the shell specified in01:08
dj-fu           the passwd(5) entry of the user that the command is being run as.01:08
dj-fusudo -i01:09
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newbuntuwell.. like a newer kde version and kmplayer integration01:09
dj-futhis will leave the actual root account still disabled, but give you the root user01:09
bc_does anyone can help me with icewm01:09
dj-fu(and a shell prompt)01:09
boabstanewbuntu, ubuntu i imagine is a slim super model, madrake i see is a cullulite legged old woman you see on the beach in corfu01:09
eggzeckbc_, I've never used icewm01:09
dlibc_, apt-get install icewm01:09
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boabstanewbuntu, cellulite :)01:09
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bc_i already install it01:09
newbuntumandrake always had a nice gui01:09
dlibc_, then, you can select icewm in gdm before login01:09
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jivahMathman, well i have a dell computer pentium 4, no idea about the sound card01:09
bc_but i can found in my window manager01:10
newbuntuI pictured cellite ..some mineral deposit on mandrakes legs01:10
warbringer87what do I do once kubuntu is finished?01:10
newbuntulol01:10
Mathmanjivah: that's why you'd run lspci.  there oughta be some sorta sound card set up utility though on ubuntu.  some one chime in here.01:10
eggzeckjind, lspci01:10
newbuntuwar  install windows01:10
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xuserHow do i see which driver is being used  for my videocard?01:10
spookas long as there are no sulphur deposits in the crevices01:10
bc_i can't found icewm01:10
dlibc_, restart gdm01:10
eggzeckoops wrong tab, I meant jivah: lspci01:11
warbringer87whats that, newbuntu?01:11
warbringer87what do you mean01:11
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boabstanewbuntu, we try not to say the W word here, it causes arguments01:11
newbuntuim on breezy at the moment but I have dapper at home01:11
dlixuser, check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:11
blazemongerwhat's up01:11
jivahMathman, well got it Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)01:11
dlixuser, or "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"01:11
newbuntuwarbringer87 I was joking01:11
bc_how, sorry i'm newbie01:11
blazemongernewbuntu, :is dapper worthwhile ?01:11
crimsunjivah: what's the issue?01:11
newbuntuI really like it01:11
dlibc_: first, double check icewm is installed, "apt-get install icewm"01:11
boabstawarbringer87, what do you mean "when its finished"?01:11
Mathmanjivah: great.  so that's the exact same as mine.  you'd run that modprobe command I was telling you.  modprobe i8x0_sound or whatever.  course run lsmod first to see if it's already loaded or not.01:11
xuserdli: kk.01:12
dlibc_, then, "/etc/init.d/gdm restart &"01:12
bc_dLi, then01:12
eneriedtake care guys, bye ;)01:12
newbuntumy needs are audio, burning, dvd's, p2p downloads, streaming video/audio etc  and dapper works great01:12
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bc_dli, i'll try01:12
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blazemongeryou do nmusic production in linux newbuntu ?01:12
disasmanyway to get usplash to display a background for console? (kinda like bootsplash, i tried bootsplash, but it's not liking my radeonfb)01:12
boabstanewbuntu, basically a porn studio then ;)01:12
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newbuntuhaha no  just like my computer to be the multimedia centre01:13
blazemongermy needs are pretty much development01:13
xuserdli: vesa :(01:13
dlinewbuntu, which tool to do music01:13
boabstanewbuntu, yeah yeah01:13
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dlixuser, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:13
newbuntuxmms music,  xine video sometimes vlc video01:13
dlixuser, if you know your hardware, (indeed, xorg can do auto-detect)01:13
djk_is there a size limit of swap?01:14
jivahMathman, FATAL: Module i8x0_sound not found.01:14
blazemongerdli, :soundtracker is good and so is rosegarden but i reccomend compiling rosegarden01:14
newbuntuI burn with k3b01:14
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crimsunjivah: the driver would be snd_intel8x0.01:14
dliblazemonger, is it something similar to ProTool in Windows01:14
Mathmanjivah: well yeah, I said or whatever.  that's perhaps not the exact name.01:14
crimsunjivah: please provide what I asked for01:14
newbuntudownload with apollon for p2p  and  ktorrent for bittorrents01:14
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Mathmanjivah: crimsun hooked ya up though.01:14
jivahcrimsun, yes i found it01:14
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stephenklCan someone help me real quick with network interfaces?01:15
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boabstanewbuntu, apollon any good, i've never heard of it01:15
newbunturealvideo streaming with mplayer mozilla plugin and mplayer01:15
Mathmanjivah: he means, what are you trying to do exactly.  what's your problem?  or she perhaps...01:15
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newbuntuit uses the gift network its Amazing !!!01:15
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crimsun(he)01:15
newbuntusearches 3 to 4 seperate networks01:15
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blazemongerdli, :it's similar to cubase in some ways01:15
boabstanewbuntu, cool, noted :)01:15
newbuntuyou can apt-get   apollon  gift01:16
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newbuntutheres lots of info out there on apollon installation01:16
boabstanewbuntu, gift?01:16
jivahcrimsun, Mathman i don't have sound01:16
u^Ahow to install xmms on ubuntu?01:16
blazemongerdli, :for editing wav fils i use audicaty01:16
u^Athanx01:16
newbuntuapt-get install xmms01:16
_jasonu^A: have you enabled universe?01:16
boabstablazemonger, what do you use for mp3? I have a bunch I need to cut bits from01:17
u^Apardon me01:17
_jasonu^A: never mind, xmms is in main, just do what newbuntu said01:17
newbuntumake sure you also get the xmms-mp3 package01:17
dliblazemonger, anything to compose midi?01:17
crimsunjivah: please pastebin what I asked for01:17
blazemongeryup01:17
blazemongerrosegarden01:17
biovoreboabsta: I convert mp3's to wav then edit them with rezound01:17
newbuntuapt-cache search xmms   (as root)01:17
blazemongeri use audicity01:17
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blazemongeraudicaty (sp?)01:17
blazemongerfor editing all my audio files01:17
u^A Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:17
blazemongerand for grabbing samples for beatz01:17
dliblazemonger, my friend is a musician, asked me about ProTool01:18
_jasonu^A: sudo apt-get install xmms01:18
u^AUnable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?01:18
jivahcrimsun, what did you ask,01:18
newbuntuI like to apt-cache search <filename>  and then copy and paste apt-get ..01:18
blazemongercsound is good but it requires learning a scripting language01:18
boabstablazemonger, cheers01:18
newbuntuapt-get  - f install01:18
newbuntuno space01:18
u^Aya _jason i did that and those the error messages i found01:18
u^Aok01:18
stephenklDoes anyone know how to tell linux to use eth1 rather than eth0, and vice-versa (on a macine with both wireless (eth0) and ethernet (eth1))01:18
newbuntuapt-get -f install01:18
blazemongerif you miss impulse tracker check out cheesetracker01:18
dliblazemonger, good :)01:18
_jasonu^A: if you have synaptic open, you need to close it01:18
dliblazemonger, great, but I don't know anything about music :(01:19
crimsunjivah: ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''01:19
crimsunjivah: use pastebin01:19
u^Aok01:19
Mathmanstephenkl: routing tables.01:19
newbuntuu^A  in a terminal type  sudo apt-get -f install01:19
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u^APackage xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.01:19
u^AThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or01:19
u^Ais only available from another source01:19
u^AE: Package xmms has no installation candidate01:19
stephenklMathman: as in, the 'route' command?01:19
newbuntuI like to apt-cache search <filename>  and then copy and paste apt-get ..01:19
regeyaI so wish I'd been in on the oldschool tracker scene.  I was around for it but was, um, well, back when the original trackers came out, I didn't have an amiga. ;-D01:19
_jasonu^A: you need to enable the online repositories, ubotu will send you a link with directions01:20
newbuntuuse apt-cache search xmms   feature01:20
dliblazemonger, all in media-sound :)01:20
redguystephenkl: or int ip route01:20
_jasonubotu: tell u^A about repos01:20
newbuntuthan you see all the name01:20
jivah0 [ICH6           ] : ICH4 - Intel ICH601:20
jivah                     Intel ICH6 with AD1986 at 0xdfebfe00, irq 2301:20
jivahSimple mixer control 'Master',001:20
jivah  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch01:20
jivah  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right01:20
jivah  Limits: Playback 0 - 3101:20
jivah  Front Left: Playback 25 [81%]  [on] 01:20
_jason!paste01:20
ubotuPlease don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL01:20
Mathmanstephenkl: yep, that's how you'd modify them.  or maybe /etc/sysconfig/routes or whatever.  Im really not sure though.  route would work anyway.01:20
jivah  Front Right: Playback 25 [81%]  [on] 01:20
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jivahSimple mixer control 'Master Mono',001:20
jivah  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined01:20
jivah  Playback channels: Mono01:20
jivah  Limits: Playback 0 - 3101:20
u^A_jason, how to enable that may i know?01:20
dlijivah01:20
jivah  Mono: Playback 0 [0%]  [off] 01:20
jivahSimple mixer control 'Master Surround',001:20
jivah  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch01:20
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jivah  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right01:20
jivah  Limits: Playback 0 - 3101:20
stephenklMathman: ok, I thjink you got me on the right track, thanks01:20
jivah  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%]  [off] 01:20
jivah  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%]  [off] 01:20
_jasonu^A: you should have recieved a private message from ubotu with instructions01:20
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redguy!tell jivah about paste01:20
blazemongerdli:what i did was compile rosegarden from scratch because the prepackaged rosegarden isnt capable of running any plugins01:20
xuserdli: hmm... looks like there is no driver for my videio, is a s3 unichrome.01:20
dlicrimsun, what took you so long :(01:20
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jivah  Front Right: Playback 25 [81%]  [on] 01:21
jivahSimple mixer control 'Surround',001:21
regeyacrikey01:21
redguystephenkl: just set the default route through the interface you want to use01:21
jivah  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch01:21
jivah  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right01:21
jivah  Limits: Playback 0 - 3101:21
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jivah  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%]  [off] 01:21
Mathmanlol01:21
jivah  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%]  [off] 01:21
jivahSimple mixer control 'Surround Jack Mode',001:21
dlixuser, I think s3 is supported01:21
newbuntumy ati drivers are in properly but 3d rendering seems off and tux game plays like crap01:21
jivah  Capabilities:01:21
redguyjivah: stop!01:21
jivah  Mono:01:21
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regeya!01:21
uboturegeya: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:21
regeyalol01:21
regeyasorry, I did not intend to confuse the bot.01:21
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paxhe's clueless, educate him hehe01:22
dliblazemonger, since I'm so ignorant with music, can you suggest something similar to ProTool?01:22
AngryElfhey all, i'm trying to determine if LVM is using /dev/sda or sdb, anyone know a way?01:22
u^Athanx guys01:22
regeyathat's a tall order, dli01:22
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blazemongeri already have :) its rosegarden01:22
MathmanAngryElf: pvdisplay, lvdisplay, that sorta thing01:22
meepHey people. I just reinstalled my Ubuntu system after yeah, screwing my kernel. Anyway, I noticed I now can not open "Menu editor" it just lies in taskbar and auto quit again after 20 seconds. Anyone know whats wrong?01:22
blazemongerall midi sequencers do the same thing :)01:22
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_jasonu^A: by the way, you can just use synaptic to install stuff like xmms, it's just easier for us to give you a command01:22
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crimsunjivah: do not flood. I asked you specifically to use pastebin.01:22
regeyaI need to try rosegarden again.  the one and only time I tried it, uh, it was gimpy. :-}  but that's been years.01:23
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dliregeya, poor me, I know nothing about music, and my friend knows nothing about computer :(01:23
ompaulcrimsun, sorry did not see u there01:23
u^Asure _jason  :)01:23
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crimsunompaul: no worries01:23
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Mathmanompaul: dude, you're fired01:24
dliregeya, my friend just got a macbook, found no software support :(01:24
regeyadang. dvd drive spazzing out again.  last time this happened I ended up restarting to resolve...wait, here goes.01:24
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djk_crimsun: is there a size limit of swap that top can display?01:24
blazemongerhttp://www.rosegardenmusic.com/01:24
regeyareally dli?  dang.  won't protools work via, um, wuzzitcalled, rosetta?01:24
jivahcrimsun,01:24
jivahsorry i mixep up windows01:24
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jivahand i didnt know what was pastebin... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1269701:24
crimsundjk_: however large your terminal is01:25
dliregeya, I suppose he would be happy if there's any alternative?01:25
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crimsundjk_: (width-wise001:25
dliregeya, I suppose you can install free software on macbook01:25
Billyhola01:25
blazemongerRosegarden is a great midi sequencer01:25
djk_crimsun: mmh, then, if fdisk shows 3.3 gb, and top only shows ~2gb, what could be the problem?01:25
Billy:)01:25
jivahcrimsun, by the way i am a frenchman....which is not really helpful01:25
dliblazemonger, I will check whether he can install it on macbook01:25
Billyhi01:26
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paxjivah: lol01:26
crimsundjk_: what does /proc/swaps display?01:26
boabstablazemonger, can u recommend any mp3 editors that dont require you to convert to wav first. just to cut sections of a mp3 out01:26
cyphasewow, ubuntu mentioned in a front page story on a mainstream news site01:26
cyphase:)01:26
Canutei have a feeling somethings wrong with my network, it can go online and stuff, but when i try to update my apt-get, i get timed out for all. Same when i try to update my steam, but it can go online .... :S01:26
boabstablazemonger becomes the new resident audio expert :)01:27
redguycyphase: whih news site?01:27
cyphasehttp://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=187264001:27
Billyalguien habla espaol aqui?01:27
djk_crimsun: ~2gb01:27
redguy!es01:27
jivahcrimsun, did you get my paste bin , if not hereafter http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1269701:27
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:27
cyphaseit's really linux in general01:27
cyphasebut it mentions ubuntu01:27
dliCanute, dhcp ?01:27
regeyadli, well, yeah, but I always scratch my head when people buy apple hardware and then go linux...this coming from a happy kubuntu(no flames please) user...I wish I could help, was just surprised to hear that there's no prosumer music software that'll run on the x86 OS X...*shrug*01:28
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crimsundjk_: and what does fdisk or cfdisk report for the swap partition size?01:28
crimsunjivah: yes, I read it. In a Terminal, amixer sset 'External Amplifier' off01:28
blazemongerboabsta, :if you know anyone that needs any help with audio related stuff feel free to msg me01:28
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djk_crimsun: cfdisk says 3500mb01:28
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Mathmanregeya: itunes would almost have to run.  or maybe you're talking about something else here?01:28
blazemongeraudicaty doesnt require you to convert to wav as long as you have LAME installed01:29
jivahcrimsun, what should i do, and thanks for your help01:29
crimsundjk_: pastebin the output from dmesg01:29
crimsunjivah: I just told you01:29
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dliregeya, the problem is just ignorance :(01:29
boabstablazemonger, me, me, i just need to be able to cut sections of a mp3 out into a small mp3 but cant seem to find any apps that dont need you to manually convert a track to wav first01:29
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Mathmanjivah: run lsmod and see if it lists snd_i8x0 or whatever.  then run dmesg and see what it says about it.01:29
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boabstablazemonger, oops, just noticed audiocity message, ignore me please :)01:30
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boabstablazemonger, ^  audicaty doesnt require you to convert to wav as long as you have LAME installed01:30
regeyaMathman: thanks for bursting in without reading the whole thread of conversation *wink*  Talking about availability of software for Macbooks...assumed we were talking intel...sorry, I tend to use 'x86' as a generic term for 'intel'01:30
romuloyo ^^01:30
romulousing dapper finaly01:30
djk_crimsun: just 'dmesg' ?01:30
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crimsundjk_: yes01:30
Grout58_im trying to install ubuntu on a serial sata raptor, after the base install is done and ejects the cd to boot, it boots up and says error loading operating system01:31
regeyadli: I haven't tried Rosegarden yet but doggone if it doesn't look nice these days01:31
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blazemongerregeya, :you havent tried rosegarden?01:31
blazemongeri reccomend it man01:31
regeyadli: hangon, I'll supply a link to Dave Phillips' Linux sound page01:31
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dliregeya, thanks :)01:31
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Mathmanregeya: ah, nah man, I know you're talking about x86 macs.  I'm just not sure what you mean by prosumer music software.  at any rate, itunes would run.  well, and anything that runs on linux you'd be able to get going on a mac I'm sure.01:31
djk_crimsun: http://pastebin.com/67440101:32
Mathmanregeya: but yeah, I probably shouldn't jump into the middle of a conversation.01:32
Grout58_anyone have any idea?01:32
CanuteHow can i reconnect my network card ? Like let it renew it's ip01:32
jivahcrimsun, what should i write in terminal, excuse me to low in understanding but i am used with my french brain01:32
Grout58_its like theres a problem with the boot loader or something01:32
AngryElfMathman, thanx for the pvdisplay info01:32
dliCanute, /etc/init.d/networking restart01:32
regeyaMathman: by 'prosumer' I just meant anything that lets you do professional recording in your basement :-D  I'm not a recording artist, haven't picked up an instrument in a while, but I'd love to get cracking...must give rosegarden a look01:32
Canutety01:33
crimsundjk_: ok, I'll need /var/log/dmesg instead01:33
u^Aoh god! i just love ubuntu01:33
MathmanAngryElf: ah, yeah, one other one I forgot to mention I think.  vgdisplay.01:33
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crimsunjivah: amixer sset 'External Amplifier' off01:33
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boabstablazemonger, audAcity :)01:33
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jivahcrimsun, i did it and now01:34
jivah??01:34
jivahstill no sound01:34
blazemongerboabsta, :: ) ehehe01:34
djk_crimsun: http://pastebin.com/67440801:34
blazemongerboabsta, :i'm not a expert i jhust know what i use :)01:34
tombshi all01:34
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crimsunjivah: amixer sset 'Exchange Front/Surround' on01:34
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Mathmanregeya: garage band or whatever (which I've only vaguely heard of and really no idea what it does), that doesn't run on x86 macs?01:35
Mathmanhehe, better cut out the off topic stuff maybe though.01:35
jivahcrimsun, done01:35
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dliMathman, anything run on ubuntu?01:35
Domoroi'm remotely conntected to a machine via ssh , i added a a user, but i'm unclear how to make the user a sudoer.  do i change the user to the admin group?01:35
Mathmanjivah: is esd or whatever running?  try and esd app01:35
njanDomoro, /etc/sudoers01:35
crimsunjivah: amixer sset 'Surround' on && amixer sset 'Surround' 2801:36
jivahcrimsun, i was thinking may be my ears are not working, that could be an explanation, lol01:36
njandominion, the admin group is probably given permission to sudo in there, but if not, add the user.01:36
Grout58_which boot loader do you guys prefer lilo or grub?01:36
Mathmandli: krec?  =)01:36
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jivahcrimsun, done01:36
dliMathman, that's a recorder?01:36
njanDomoro, the admin group is probably given permission to sudo in there, but if not, add the user.01:36
crimsunjivah: amixer sset 'Master Surround' on && amixer sset 'Master Surround' 2801:36
njanrather than dominion.. ;)01:36
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Mathmandli: sure, simple wav recorder.01:36
jivahcrimsun, i found the issue01:37
Domoro how can i make the user a admin ?01:37
dliMathman, I was asking about composer01:37
regeyaMathman, dunno.  that'd be a good question.  I'll be totally frank:  I only use Macs at work.  Too rich for my blood, seriously.  I work at a really small newspaper which means we work with the dearies but most of us can't afford 'em ;-)01:37
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regeyahttp://linux-sound.org/01:37
Mathmandli: ok.  hydrogen is cool then.  course it only does drums.  it's still pretty neat though, like buzz kinda.01:37
jivahcrimsun, guess what i forgot to connect the loudspeakers01:37
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crimsunheh.01:38
stuzz78hello...01:38
crimsunif only Stabbing-People-In-Their-Faces over TCP were an actual protocol.01:38
jivahcrimsun, yes heh heh to my limited barin01:38
jivahso stupid i am01:38
crimsundon't worry about it :)01:38
stuzz78i can't get my serial mouse to work on server install ubuntu with apt-getted xubuntu-desktop01:38
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njancrimsun, wouldn't it be more effectively implemented over UDP?01:38
jivahi do not deserve linux01:38
jivahi am born for windows 3.101:39
stuzz78i've put /dev/ttyS0 in /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:39
Mathmanjivah: just mail me some wood now, from le bois de luthier or whatever.01:39
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jivah:(01:39
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crimsunjivah: at least sound works, so that's good01:39
HymnToLifejivah> Windows 3.1 is not soooo bad, look at Windows ME :p01:39
stuzz78is there anything else i need to do?01:39
stuzz78help?  please :)01:40
blacklineHi, I'm new to apt... How can I install Thunderbird using that? I'm on Breezer...01:40
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HymnToLifeblackline> sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird I guess01:40
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regeyadli:  my own experience (but I'm not claiming I'm all that smart) is that there's a pretty good learning curve on Linux music especially if you get to the stage where you want to sync/integrate various proggys...it's not horrible but it's not ultra-easy...anyways, as much as I'd like to continue to demonstrate my ignorance on this subject, there's a yard of tall grass calling my name, and that I can handle. ;-)  hasta.01:41
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Mathmanstuzz78: throw the right protocol in there?01:41
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stuzz78Mathman: what do you mean?01:41
blacklineHumnToLife then i wasnt that long away.. ok, just so i know for the future.. if i dont know the whole name of the package i'm installing, can i do like this: "apt-get intsall *thunderbird*"01:41
ppcguyhey all borked my xorg.conf.. Don't recall off the top of my head what I need to type in to reconfigure01:41
Mathmanstuzz78: on your input section where the mouse is, there's a protocol field you need to fill in, no?01:41
fellowshipI am buying a notebook!  does Ubuntu install ok on all notebooks?  Will I first have to remove MS windows?01:41
kingspawnblackline: you can do apt-cache search thunderbird01:42
Jowiblackline: most simple way is to use the synaptic package manager and search for thunderbird if you don't want to use the terminal. when you find it, tick the box and click apply. from the terminal you can search package name like this "apt-cache search -n thunderbird"01:42
boabstahey blazemonger do you know where to get libmp3lame.so from?01:42
stuzz78Mathman: ahh..  sorry.  yes i put Microsoft...  it worked with the same computer with default install01:42
HymnToLifeblackline> you can use the Synaptic tool to search for packages01:42
kingspawnblackline: that should return every package available with the name thunderbird in it01:42
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Jowiblackline: -n stand for "name"01:42
vinboyhi01:42
crimsundjk_: you must be on i386 or ppc01:42
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djm62fellowship: my HP notebook worked fine out of the box, you're probably best to choose a few notebooks and google to see if there are any issues with linux01:42
ahmenifellowship: Linux runs very well on a lot of laptops, but do your research beforehand to make sure :)01:42
boabstablazemonger, doesnt seem to show up in the repositories i ahve enabled01:42
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Mathmanstuzz78: it worked?  so what caused it to stop working?01:43
vinboyi'm using the kernel 2.6.16.7, how do I uninstall it while i'm using it? or do I have to boot with another kernel in order to uninstall the current one?01:43
blazemongersourceforge.net01:43
ppcguyTo reconfigure X. It's dpkg-reconfigure what?01:43
blazemongeri think01:43
__mikemAnyone want to hear a horrorstory01:43
djk_crimsun: yea i use the i386 kernel.01:43
Mathmanstuzz78: microsoft though, I dunno if that sounds right though.  wouldn't it be serial or something for the protocol.  maybe have a look at the man page.01:43
crimsundjk_: on i386 and ppc, the size limit per-swap partition is 2 GB01:43
blacklinethanks everyone.01:43
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boabstablazemonger, cheers, look ideal for my purposes though. i'm sure i tried audacity before and it was rubbish, this looks great though01:43
wooster1168ppcguy,  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:43
djk_crimsun: so all i have to do is install the i686-kernel?01:44
ppcguyThat's it! Thanks much wooster116801:44
wooster1168you're welcome01:44
Mathmanvinboy: I'd imagine yyou could uninstall it.  but that seems sorta dangerous.01:44
__mikemnot really01:44
TokenBadhow do you mount iso files?01:44
blindxAny way to get text functionality running photoshop through wine?01:44
crimsundjk_: no, it still can only address per-swap partition of 2 GB (arch limitation)01:44
__mikemall you have to do is download the packages, and apt does the rest01:44
kingspawnTokenBad: mount -o loop file.iso /mountpoint01:44
stuzz78Mathman: slow computer worked like a down with gnome...  so I started again with server install and did xubuntu-desktop...  on default install i have /dev/ttyS0 and "Microsoft" protocol (which I found from ubuntuforums) and it worked..  but the same doesn't seem to work with xfce...  it shouldn't matter tho should it?01:44
crimsundjk_: you should create multiple swap partitions no larger than 2 GB since you're on ia3201:45
__mikemafter you are done besure to reboot though as you are required to do so after updating the kernel01:45
Apostle^TokenBad: sudo mount -o loop iso9660 /path/to/file.iso /mount/point01:45
blazemongerboabsta, :it's almost as good as wavelab01:45
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blazemongeryou can go to the audicaty homepage and download soem effects plugins toooo01:45
blazemonger!01:45
vinboyok thx Mathman01:45
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, blazemonger01:45
Mathmanstuzz78: nah, that wouldn't matter.  X is X no matter what you put on top of it.  maybe have a look at your logs then and see what they're saying.01:45
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cortezso, xubuntu anybody?01:45
blindxAny way to get text functionality running photoshop through wine?01:45
__mikem!xfce01:45
ubotuI guess xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/01:45
ompaulcortez, so what about it?01:45
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HandShakeMurderwhat is up my frienlys01:46
cortezi'm just wondering what's so special01:46
djk_crimsun: i thought a p4 is 686?01:46
stuzz78Mathman: any logs in particular?01:46
blazemongerdo a search for lame01:46
__mikemit uses xfce thats about it cortez01:46
ompaulcortez, its lightweight01:46
Apostle^djk_: it is.01:46
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crimsundjk_: a Pentium 4 is 686-class, yes, but it's still a 32-bit processor.01:46
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boabstaooh, i have a question, i did a dist-update to upgrade my kernel from 2.6.9 to 2.6.10 but there wasnt enough space on my /boot partition and the uncompression failed but the update carried on regardless. is this a known bug already? and is it possible to undo the upgrade so i can free some space and try again?01:46
blazemongeri'm sure its in the repositories..unless you forgot to add multiverse to all thel ines in /etc/apt/sources.conf to al the lines that only have universe01:46
stuzz78it is possible to exit xfce with the keyboard?01:46
cortezi do like xfce on older machines01:46
Apostle^boabsta: just remove it01:46
Mathmanstuzz78: course.  /var/log/xorg.log or whatever.01:46
boabstaApostle^, how?01:47
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stuzz78Mathman:  i'm new..  go easy..  i'll have a look01:47
Mathmanstuzz78: ctrl-alt-backspace would kill X01:47
Apostle^boabsta: use apt-get to remove the kernel01:47
djk_crimsun: i see01:47
NathanaelHas anyone ever tried to run the GoToAssist Client in WINE?01:47
Apostle^Mathman: restart* X01:47
foureight84i'm running on 2.6.15 and ipw2200 won't connect to encrypted networks01:47
stuzz78Mathman: backspace...  ahh, ok01:47
TokenBadif there a way to partition a drive to have a fat32 and linux partion on the same drive from within linux...I have 80 gig drive...fat31 already..but want to partition like 10 gigs or so to linux format01:47
foureight84i found a patch but i don't know how to apply it01:47
Apostle^TokenBad: sudo apt-get install gparted01:47
__mikemnever heard of fat3101:47
boabstaApostle^, aaah, okay, i'll try that01:47
foureight84could anyone help me with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=751319&postcount=1001:48
polpakTokenBad, yes, you can use gparted (or the commercial product partition magic)01:48
Apostle^polpak: he said from within linux01:48
dliTokenBad, or qtparted01:48
MathmanApostle^: kill.  init would respawn it perhaps.01:48
boabstaApostle^, is that a known problem? it was quite annoying :/01:48
Apostle^boabsta: sure01:48
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djk_crimsun: thank you for your quick help :)01:49
boabstaApostle^, cool01:49
Aar0nHi01:49
crimsundjk_: np01:49
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NathanaelHow many running Dapper Beta?01:49
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foureight84me01:49
VarthI'm running it.01:49
Apostle^me also.01:49
__mikemnope01:49
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NathanaelAny major glitches?01:49
foureight84i'm having problems with ipw220001:49
Aar0nI just installed 'tutu but set the wrong resolution on the install. I can't start X, because it says it can't start the X server. How can i start X in 800x600?01:49
VarthNone so far.01:49
Apostle^Nathanael: not that i have noticd01:49
foureight84not mch01:49
amir_how do i creat a channel?01:50
TokenBadok how do I actually use gparted to partition the drive..and if i use it will I lose any data in the process01:50
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Apostle^amir_: just /join #chan name01:50
Mathmanamir_: /msg chanserv help01:50
amir_k thank you01:50
polpakAar0n, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:50
amir_and also, anyone know anything abotu cedega01:50
NathanaelI had to run update after the intial install several times for it to finish01:50
foureight84could someone help me? my ipw2200 won't connect to encrypted networks01:50
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amir_im trying to use the pro version but im having some trouble01:50
dliTokenBad, you can backup your partition table first01:50
foureight84i found a patch solution for it01:50
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polpakTokenBad, you can resize the partition rather than remove it, then create a new partition in the empty space01:50
Aar0nThanks polpak, once I use that, will I have the option to set it or will I have to enter an additional command01:51
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foureight84http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=751319&postcount=1001:51
foureight84that's the patch for it01:51
drix_fkc!list01:51
ubotu[list]  you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage01:51
stuzz78Mathman: is there a command to check which port the mouse is in?01:51
foureight84i don't know how to apply it though01:51
Domorohow can i list all groups that are avilable?01:51
fellowshipI am buying a notebook!  does Ubuntu install ok on all notebooks?  Will I first have to remove MS windows?01:51
Apostle^TokenBad: make sure you unmount it so gparted can access it.01:51
TokenBadahh01:51
polpakAar0n, it'll give you a bunch of options for configuring.. Generally the defaults are fine. But one of them is to set the resolution01:51
drix_fkchi01:51
TokenBadthat prob why not looking right01:51
TokenBadheheh01:51
NathanaelI am running on a Dell Latitude D60001:51
Apostle^fellowship: no you don't have to remove windows, and it should work on any notebook01:51
Aar0nThanks polpak01:51
NathanaelLAptop01:51
fellowshipApostle^: ok!  are you a Christian?01:51
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Apostle^fellowship: i don't believe in god01:52
spookHas anyone tried this ...http://www.initng.org/wiki/Install_Debian_Ubuntu. I tried it on Fedora and it was pants but would love to see it work!!!01:52
NathanaelApostle: that's too bad01:52
fellowshipApostle^: are you 100% certain a Creator God doesnt exist?01:52
fellowshipNathanael: Amen01:52
Mathmanstuzz78: dmesg would probably show something or other?  and I want to say statserial, but I dunno if that's it.  seems like there some command or another that will tell you if something's going on on a serial port.  but heck, you only have 4 or something probably.  try them all if you think that's the issue.01:52
ompaul!offtopic01:52
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!01:52
Jowiomg (pun intended), is this slashdot?01:52
Apostle^fellowship: this is not the place for this topic01:52
dlifellowship, there's no God in ubuntu :)01:52
fellowshipNathanael: I am a Christian for 9 years now.01:52
Nathanael"sudo apt-cache search God"01:52
wooster1168lol01:52
polpak!offtopic01:52
amir_hey guys, im k,inda new, anyone wanna join my irc channel and give me som instructions on editing user permissions?01:52
blazemongerokay lame is in multimedia/multiverse01:52
fellowship!ontopic01:53
ubotusupport requests in #ubuntu please, #ubuntu-offtopic is strictly offlimits for support questions :)01:53
fellowship!kiss Apostle^01:53
ubotufellowship: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:53
polpak!botsnack01:53
ubotu:)01:53
apokryphos!botabuse01:53
ubotuYou can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.01:53
Nathanaellol01:53
Domorohow can i add a user to the admin group?01:53
fellowshipdominion: adduser01:53
apokryphosDomoro: sudo adduser username group01:53
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boabsta!bummingbotsdotcom01:53
ubotuboabsta: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:53
ompaulfellowship, Apostle^ Nathanael - stay on topic, thanks01:53
Domoroahh thats what it was thanks.01:53
fellowshipompaul: ok01:53
amir_how do i make it so users can edit things on the other partition of my hd? cause i dont wanna always use root01:53
fellowshipompaul: are you op here?01:53
apokryphosyes01:54
HymnToLifeDomoro> sudo nano /etc/groups01:54
Apostle^ompaul: ...01:54
polpakDomoro, or just vigr01:54
ompaulI am  so are several other01:54
ompauls01:54
Mathmanamir_: depends.  if it's ext3 or something, permissions.01:54
fellowshipompaul: ok01:54
amir_k01:54
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foureight84how do you patch a file? l01:54
amir_what do ig ive someone as the address to connect to my channel in this irc??01:54
Apostle^foureight84: what do you mean patch?01:54
Mathmanfoureight84: the patch command.01:54
fellowshipompaul: how do I know if I ever need to change or update my sources.list?01:54
Apostle^amir_: irc.freenode.net01:55
amir_then my channel?01:55
Apostle^amir_:  /join #chan name01:55
amir_like how do i add my channel to that address01:55
Apostle^amir_: can't01:55
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amir_k so they have to joinc ahnnel once here?01:55
Apostle^yes01:55
foureight84well my ipw2200 won't connect to encrypted networks and i found this patch http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=751319&postcount=1001:55
foureight84but i don't know how to apply it01:55
djk_crimsun: so, just to make sure, i do swapoff -a, then use gparted to resize the swap and create 2, and then swapon -a ?01:55
lordnirWhat's the superuser's default password set to?01:55
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Apostle^lordnir: your password01:55
kaoohehe01:55
dlilordnir, it's disabled :(01:55
kbrookslordnir:01:55
kbrooks!sudo01:56
ubotuit has been said that sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.01:56
Apostle^dli: root pass is disabled, super user is not01:56
foureight84Apistle^: could you help me?01:56
ompaulfellowship, you assume I know :-) you install a version, you find out when its EOL (end of life) is, then you plan to migrate before the last day :)01:56
Apostle^foureight84: whats your question01:56
stuzz78Mathman: actually...  i have a grand total of 2 :)01:56
ompaulfellowship, what version are you01:56
__mikempasswd root <enter> (password) <enter> (password again)01:56
Mathmanfoureight84: if you don't know what to do with a patch file, you'd maybe be better off trying to just update your ubuntu.01:56
foureight84Apostle^: my ipw2200 won't connect to encrypted networks. i found a patch for it http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=751319&postcount=1001:56
MisterN__mikem: <enter> you forgot01:57
foureight84but i don't know how to apply it01:57
kbrooks__mikem: DONT suggest that01:57
fellowshipompaul: version what?01:57
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Chris_Tuckerdoes a cxoffice install of wine see and access the system font directory? or do i have to copy my fonts into my fake windows directory?01:57
kbrooksfoureight84: you dont need to01:57
ompaulfellowship, of Ubuntu01:57
foureight84oh?01:57
fellowshipompaul: version unbuntu mean?01:57
blazemongerohbtw when dealing with linux midi sequencing it helps to have a good supply of oxycontin or ritalin lol01:57
__mikemWhy, its the first thing I do when I install ubuntu on a new machine01:57
fellowshipompaul:  not sure, how can I find out?01:57
Apostle^foureight84: save that as .sh i believe then chmod it to 777 and ./name.sh01:57
fellowshipompaul: im using breezt01:57
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foureight84thanks01:57
kbrooksApostle^: no01:57
Mathmanstuzz78: actually 4 I figure is most systems, regardless of the amount of actual physical serial ports.  because then you can attach a modem and what have you.  I guess I mean that's how the kernel is configured.01:57
kbrooksfoureight84: no01:57
Apostle^foureight84: he is right that is C01:58
ompaulfellowship, cat /etc/issue and tell me the words in there warty hoary breezy dapper01:58
kbrooksApostle^: a patch is source code01:58
foureight84wait what?01:58
Apostle^kbrooks: hmm then what shall he do with it01:58
polpakfoureight84, chmod 75501:58
fellowshipompaul: Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l01:58
fellowshipompaul: is that the latest?01:58
Apostle^fellowship: latest stable01:58
foureight84save it as *.sh?01:58
ompaulfellowship, so that runs out in about a year01:58
Mathmana patch is maybe source code.  it's just the output of diff when you get down to it.01:58
Apostle^foureight84: no.01:59
ompaulfellowship, its the current release01:59
kbrooksfoureight84: no.01:59
fellowshipompaul: but how can I update programs etc?01:59
kbrooksfoureight84: do not use it01:59
crimsundjk_: sure01:59
foureight84sorry, i don;t know what to do01:59
Apostle^fellowship: sudo apt-get update01:59
kbrooksfoureight84: what is your exact problem01:59
Apostle^fellowship: sudo apt-get upgrade01:59
fellowshipApostle^: but how can I be sure its using latest sources.list?01:59
Apostle^fellowship: sources.list doesn't change for your distro01:59
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ompaulfellowship, the information is in the message from the bot - you don't have to do it at this time01:59
polpak!sources01:59
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource01:59
foureight84ipw2200 has a bug in 2.6.15. the bug is that the wireless won't connect to encrypted networks01:59
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fellowshipompaul:  is Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper out yet?02:00
polpakfellowship, the beta is02:00
kbrooksfoureight84:02:00
__mikemI always just enable all the repositories, after all, I will probably need all of them sooner or later02:00
Nathanaelfellowship:beta02:00
fellowshipApostle^: sources.list doesn't change for breezy?02:00
stuzz78Mathman:  hmm  ok02:00
ompaulfellowship, no, the first number is the year the second is the month02:00
Apostle^fellowship: you can add too it but it doesn02:00
kbrooksfoureight84: look.02:00
Apostle^change02:00
kbrooksfoureight84: a bug is a bug.02:00
Apostle^fellowship: check this out02:00
Apostle^!easysource02:00
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:00
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fellowshipApostle^: thanks02:00
kbrooksfoureight84: if you dont have enough knowledge on how to fix the bug, dont do it02:00
fellowshipompaul: ok02:00
foureight84okay02:01
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Marineboyanyone seen nickrud around?02:01
Apostle^kbrooks: that's not a good thing to tell somone02:01
fellowshipkbrooks: how do you learn then if you dont trial and error?02:01
Apostle^foureight84: hold on i'll try to help you02:01
kbrooksApostle^: look02:01
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dtshow do you get to that console based setup utility to set up the network, et all?02:01
kbrooksApostle^: THIS IS the patch:02:01
kbrookshttp://www.bughost.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=67402:01
dtsfrom the OS02:01
fellowshipkbrooks foureight84: if you dont have enough knowledge on how to fix the bug, dont do it <--  how do you learn then if you dont trial and error?02:01
MathmanApostle^: hehe, you want to help him patch his kernel or something?  good luck.02:01
Apostle^kbrooks: i'm aware of that02:01
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kbrooksfellowship: i can read02:02
evaderHi. If I install dapper from the new beta CD, and then always keep the system updated (apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade), will my system be any different than If I install in a few months from the FINAL release? Thanks.02:02
Apostle^evader: nope02:02
kbrooksApostle^: he has to COMPILE a new kernel02:02
Apostle^kbrooks: okay02:02
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polpak!seen nickrud02:02
ubotunickrud <n=nickrud@adsl-69-153-204-83.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu+1, 1d 16m 36s ago, saying: 'has anyone gotten the ltmodem/ltserial stuff from restricted-modules to work yet?'.02:02
kbrooksApostle^: it really isnt worth the hassle to help him02:02
evaderApostle^: not at all, because some people were saying that some config files won't get updated etc02:03
__mikemcompiling the kernel = living hell02:03
Apostle^kbrooks: your a jerk02:03
evaderwhich i thought was not true02:03
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kbrooksApostle^: language02:03
Marineboyeveryone I got my computer fixed!02:03
MathmanI still figure foureight84 oughta just run apt-get update or something.  I mean, wouldn't that work?02:03
Apostle^kbrooks: my language is fine.02:03
polpak__mikem, try compiling mozilla sometime.. =p02:03
__mikem;-)02:03
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foureight84kbrooks: here's the bug profile and patch documented http://www.bughost.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=91902:03
kbrooksApostle^: personal attacks == offensive02:03
fellowshipkbrooks foureight84: if you dont have enough knowledge on how to fix the bug, dont do it <-- BAD ADVICE!  If everyone thought like that, nbody would grow or learn!  we learn the most from personal trial and error02:03
__mikemI already have, it was the first time I actually pulled my hair out02:03
foureight84Mathman: apt-get update doesn't fins anything02:04
Apostle^kbrooks: telling somone that they arent worth the help is offensive sir02:04
fellowshipkbrooks: you shouldnt give such bad advice in here02:04
Mathmanfoureight84: so wait till the next ubuntu release comes out in a few weeks.02:04
kbrooksfellowship: yes its bad advice, but HE HAS TO COMPILE a new kernel02:04
foureight84okay i guess02:04
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Apostle^foureight84: paste uname -r for me02:04
blazemongeranyuone else need linux midi /audio production advice?02:04
fellowshipMathman: new ubunti comes out in 3 weeks?02:04
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polpak!dapper02:04
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)02:04
Mathmanfellowship: I'd imagine.02:04
fellowshipkbrooks: COMPILE a new kernel? hmm, then you gave good advice ;)02:04
kbrooks*IMO*, its not worth the hassle for him to do that02:04
fellowshipkbrooks: :)02:05
__mikemfellowship, is it as bad as telling a newb to type what I like to refere to as "the command of death"02:05
foureight84Apostle^: 2.6.15-20-38602:05
fellowship__mikem: ok02:05
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polpakfoureight84, if it's something which is fixed in a newer kernel you could try using the dapper beta02:05
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Apostle^foureight84: what king of processor ?02:05
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fellowshipompaul: when does the new unbunto come out?02:05
kbrooksApostle^: hold on. stop.02:05
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foureight84pentium m02:05
polpakfellowship, due June 102:05
__mikemcommand of death = sudo rm -r ~ (DON'T EVER TYPE THIS)02:05
kbrooksfoureight84: Follow polpak's suggestion first?02:05
foureight84it's on a dell latitude x102:05
evader__mikem: hahah02:05
Apostle^__mikem: that command won't work02:06
foureight84i am on a dapper beta02:06
Apostle^you need rm -rf02:06
kbrooks__mikem: thats not a command of death02:06
ompaulfellowship, 1 june02:06
fellowshippolpak: do I then need to remove ubunti and reinstall?02:06
zP-Osamafellowship: june02:06
foureight84flight 6 to be exact02:06
kbrooksfellowship: NO.02:06
fellowshipompaul: do I then need to remove ubunti and reinstall?02:06
kbrooksNo*02:06
ompaulfellowship, no02:06
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fellowshipkbrooks: just upgrade?02:06
__mikemwell, noone NEEDS it02:06
ompaulfellowship, and its ubuntu not ubunto02:06
kbrooksfellowship: yes02:06
fellowshipompaul: ok, upgrade?02:06
Mathmanyeah, polpak's giving you the best advice here foureight84.  that or wait till the final release is out.  that or learn how to patch and install a kernel.  but heck, if you're gonna do that just grab a vanilla kernel, don't worry about patching it.02:06
evaderdoes it make a difference if you reinstall, or just upgrade?02:06
ompaulfellowship, I had the bot send instuctions to you, please read them02:06
fellowshipompaul: I never said  ubunto, I said  ubunti :)02:06
__mikemevader fresh installs are cleaner02:06
ompaulfellowship, I was being as exact as you were :-)02:07
fellowshipompaul: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades02:07
ompaulwhats a vowel between debaters :)02:07
ablyssmaybe this is the command of life... 'sync'02:07
foureight84Mathman, alright i'll look around some more and figure out how to patch02:07
fellowshipompaul: ok! ill go now and upgrade to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper!  brb02:07
kbrooksbbl tv02:07
evader__mikem: yeah i know, but if install a cleam beta system today, and keep it updated02:07
evaderwill it differ from the final release?02:07
kbrooksfoureight84: ummm02:07
Mathmanfoureight84: lol.  ok.  your funeral as they say.02:07
zP-Osamai tried doing the dist-upgrade route and let it run overnight..... wouldnt boot next morning02:07
kbrooksfoureight84: you have to compile a new kernel, and a program02:07
kbrooksfoureight84: itll be difficult02:08
foureight84yea02:08
evader__mikem: ?02:08
Apostle^zP-Osama: yea i had distupgrade work once and fail once02:08
fellowshipis there a new version firefox out?02:08
__mikemevader I personally don't like the idea of running any beta software, and personally, I just recomend doing a comprehensive backup of your data and starting from scratch02:08
foureight84long process... i know02:08
polpak!info firefox02:08
ubotufirefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 (breezy), Packaged size: 8268 kB, Installed size: 23932 kB02:08
odinfor some reason firefox crashes all too often on my ubuntu02:08
__mikemyour approach will also work, but I don't recomend it02:08
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kbrooksfoureight84: its not really worth the hassle02:08
polpakubotu, is out of date.... how odd02:08
ubotupolpak: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:08
Apostle^fellowship: their is FF 1.502:08
foureight84i'm probably gonna kill my dapper too probably02:08
kbrooksfoureight84: just give up02:08
foureight84what kind of advice is that?02:08
Apostle^kbrooks: stop that02:08
evader__mikem: yes but how is it a beta - if i keep up with apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade - how does the system differ from the final release?02:09
kbrooks!info dapper firefox02:09
Apostle^damnit02:09
Apostle^!ff1.502:09
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion02:09
kbrooksApostle^: you can ask a op to kick me out02:09
Mathmanfoureight84: nah, just keep your old kernel.  if the new one you've compiled doesn't work you can always boot the old one again.02:09
kbrookslike i care02:09
__mikemit will just be messier, a lot of extra packages lieing around02:09
Apostle^kbrooks: i'm not asking an op to do anything02:09
Apostle^just stop being such a jerk02:09
polpakfoureight84, what exactly is the bug you're trying to solve?02:09
kbrooksApostle^: like i care02:09
foureight84polpak, http://www.bughost.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=91902:09
Apostle^foureight84: i would try using the 686 kernel.02:10
__mikemApostile^ sorry, i missed this, what is kbrooks doing02:10
Apostle^__mikem: telling people to 'give up'02:10
Apostle^or saying they are not worth being helped02:10
polpakfoureight84, and where is your computer?02:11
MathmanApostle^: not really.  we're giving him the easier road to travel.  namely upgrading to the next ubuntu release, as opposed to patching a kernel source tree.  this is bad advice you say?02:11
Apostle^he has the newest release02:11
__mikembad advice, I didn't give up when I was on vacation without internet access, someone accidently turned off my laptop without going through shutdown, and the fs became corrupt02:11
polpakfoureight84, i.e. is this a home network we're talking about here?02:11
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foureight84polpak, yea02:11
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polpakfoureight84, well since it only affects DHCP, why not just statically assign your IP until the next version??02:11
Apostle^foureight84: you could use static02:11
foureight84polpak, the laptop connects to the network if i turn off the wpa password02:11
ppcguyhey all.. Anyone know if there are drivers for SoundBlaster Live 7.1's? Or something that would work to get surround?02:11
foureight84polpak, Apostle^ static doesn't work either02:12
Mathmanpolpak: hehe, least someone actually read about the issue he's having.  good job sir.02:12
zP-Osamappcguy: dont need them02:12
zP-Osamappcguy: just tweak setting for center and rear in your voulme control02:12
polpakMathman, ;p02:12
Apostle^ppcguy: alsamixer02:12
warbringer87hi guys02:13
warbringer87Setting up kubuntu-desktop (0.40) ...02:13
warbringer87zaven@ubuntu:~$02:13
ppcguyright I feel like a mook now.. thanks02:13
__mikem02:13
warbringer87but it still looks like old ubuntu02:13
__mikemwhat the02:13
warbringer87it finished downloading and isntalling i guess02:13
Apostle^warbringer87: hit ctrl+alt+backspace, in the login screen hit sessions and select kde02:13
warbringer87but...same old same old02:13
kbrookswarbringer87: you have to ctrl+alt+bksp  & select kde02:13
stuzz78Mathman:  when i'm trying to get this bloody mouse to work, I just need to restart X to see if the changes i've made work don't I?  don't need to restart computer??02:13
polpakfoureight84, well then it doesn't sound like this bug is nessicaraly related then. This is specifically DHCP. Unless your router is configured to not route from hosts that don't have a lease?02:13
Mathmanstuzz78: correct02:13
__mikemnever needed to restart x to get a mouse to work, but I use usb mice02:14
Apostle^usb/bluetooth here02:14
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foureight84polpak, Apostle^, Mathman thanks anyway guys... i'll just wait till the next version comes out02:14
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warbringer87aweosme, thanks02:15
polpakstuzz78, gpm works good too02:15
polpakstuzz78, if you use the console that is02:15
stuzz78polpak:  works good for what?02:15
polpakstuzz78, gives you a mouse for copy/paste in the console02:15
Mathmanactually, I hate gpm.  it always seems to go crazy on kvm switches for some reason.02:16
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polpakMathman, so don't use kvm ;p02:16
__mikemwhats kvm02:16
skplcan someone tell me how to remove a directory named . in my homw dir?02:16
skplhome02:16
polpakskpl, you cannot02:16
Mathmannah, I'll just stick to not using gpm.  how's that?  =)02:16
stuzz78how does gpm relate to getting my mouse to work?02:16
polpakskpl, . is always the current directory02:16
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ompaulskpl, you do not want to do that - it is the directory you are in  ... the current directory is always .02:17
Mathman__mikem: multiple machines on one keyboard and monitor02:17
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kingspawnskpl: . _is_ the current directory02:17
polpakskpl, .. is the parent directory02:17
TokenBadI have tried to use gparted to set my disk..but its not working02:17
Mathmanstuzz78: it doesn't  unless you're trying to get it to work at the console.02:17
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ompaulskpl, you know when you do cd .. and go back one the one you end up in is .02:17
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pollysweetpolly262.com02:17
ompaulskpl, always :)02:17
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__mikempolly, no spam02:18
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TokenBadI wanted to take 6 gigs of free space and convert it to ext3 format...but it will not do it..and I unmounted the drive02:18
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MathmanTokenBad: well, what's it tell you?02:18
polpakTokenBad, you resized the fat 32 partition?02:18
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stuzz78i'm just trying to get it to work anywhere...  tried /dev/ttyS0 and S1  tried "auto" protocol which didn't manage to find one and "microsoft"/"Microsoft" prototols...  any more thoughts?  i wonder if a usb mouse would work?02:19
TokenBadpolpak, I tried and it gave me an error02:19
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__mikemampaul, you realize the little spamer came back after you kicked her02:19
TokenBadshould I try this from live disk?02:19
polpakstuzz78, it'd probably work right away02:19
__mikemompaul02:19
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PwcrLinuxHi there02:19
WarboTokenBad: If it is completely empty (not ANY format or part of another partition) then you can use mke2fs -j02:19
ompaul__mikem, yes02:19
polpakTokenBad, you should probably just use a LiveCD02:19
TokenBadok02:19
TokenBadwill do02:19
stuzz78popak: pitty i don't have one :(02:20
MathmanWarbo: you'd need a partition to do that on first.02:20
stuzz78polpak: might just have to pick one up02:20
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WarboMathman: I was emphasizing the "not part of another partition" bit (I don't like giving out dangerous commands)02:20
skplcan someone tell me what this means? http://pastebin.com/67447002:20
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kukacomoneheh02:21
kukacomonehello :)02:21
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kukacomonehwswn olvastam van ez a szoba02:21
stuzz78polpak: do you know what the settings are in xorg.conf for a usb mouse?  does the default work?02:21
kukacomonejo sokan vagytok bazze :D02:21
polpakstuzz78,  /dev/input/mice didn't work either?02:21
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blazemongerwho wants to hear a preview of a choon im working on02:21
blazemonger?02:21
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polpakstuzz78, the default works fine for usb02:22
stuzz78polpak: /dev/input/mice is the default..  i'm basically following the instructions from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98512&highlight=%22serial+mouse%2202:22
Mathmanah, hehe, shoot.  ruined it.  s/quite/quit/02:22
Warbo__mikem: I agree with you. I would be scared of anyone who's son was murdered02:22
kukacomonesr guys isnt this room a hungarian room?02:22
kukacomone*sry02:22
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PwcrLinux!hu02:23
ubotuHa magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu.hu02:23
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Mathmanhehe, I'd say something, but I don't want to anger the channel gods.  so I'll stop.02:23
__mikemlol ok02:23
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warbringer87can someone help: how to move trash onto the desktop?02:23
skplcan someone tell me what this means? http://pastebin.com/67447002:23
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_jason!desktoptrash02:24
trainstrokerwhats that app the allows you to mount ext3 on windows?02:24
ubotufrom memory, desktoptrash is applications menu-> system tools-> configuration editor: /apps/nautilus/desktop/trash_icon_visible02:24
kukacomonePwcrLinux,  thanx :)02:24
__mikemopen the trash folder, should be called ~/.trash02:24
stuzz78polpak: which worked on the same computer, same mouse etc...  only difference i know of is I did the default install the first time, and this time i did server, and then apt-getted xubuntu-desktop02:24
Warbowarbringer87: System Tools > Configuration Editor Go on Nautilus preferences02:24
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__mikemthen drag and drop02:24
Apostle^__mikem: capital T02:24
pollyjustrespecteachother.02:24
__mikemor you can do mv ~/.Trash/<filename> ~/Desktop/<filename>02:24
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zP-Osamaback02:25
Warbo__mikem: That will only include a link to Trash in /home partition. If you delete something on another drive it goes in .Trash-username in that device's root02:25
_jason__mikem: I don't think that would work very well right?02:25
zP-Osamayeah sysinfo still aint workin02:25
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__mikemwell, it was worth a try02:25
trainstrokerwhats that app the allows you to mount ext3 on windows?02:25
_jason!explore2fs02:25
_jason!+explore2fs02:25
uboturumour has it, explore2fs is to get read/write access to your Linux ext2/3 partitions from windows, see http://www.fs-driver.org/.  You can also just use http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm as a nifty program that will let you read from your linux partitions and transfer files.02:25
polpakstuzz78, what are you using for the protocol?02:26
trainstrokerjason02:26
biloypanyone use ktechlab?02:26
_jasontrainstroker: what's up?02:26
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trainstrokerit was called something like ext2spf or ext3pdf ..., i cant rember02:26
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stuzz78polpak: microsoft02:26
_jasontrainstroker: http://www.fs-driver.org/.02:26
TokenBadok am on livecd and tried to resize the drive02:27
TokenBadand will not do it02:27
skpl doinst.sh02:27
TokenBadmaybe I am not doing it right02:27
polpakTokenBad, are you sure it's fat32 and not ntfs?02:27
_jasontrainstroker: you may also be thinking of ext2fs which is mentioned in the second page ubotu linked02:27
TokenBadyes its fat3202:27
kukacomonebye02:27
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polpakTokenBad, what's the error you get?02:27
OrTigaShi! i'm using live cd because i hve this problem the 1st user modee is "0600" and cannot do "Sudo -s"02:27
skplcan someone tell me what this means? http://pastebin.com/67447002:27
polpakstuzz78, hrm.. it should work.02:27
TokenBadjust that it can't resize the drive02:27
biloypcan anyone help me with a compile error?02:27
TokenBadI know its not mounted02:28
_jasonOrTigaS: 1st user mode 0600? what do you mean?02:28
trainstrokerYOUR MOM IS FAT32 XD </imature>02:28
_jasonbiloyp: what are you compiling?02:28
gt3im downloadin the live cd, do i have to reboot with it or can i run it from daemontools?02:28
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kingspawngt3: reboot with it02:28
biloyp_jason; ktechlab02:28
gt3k02:28
polpakTokenBad, how are you trying to resize it?02:28
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PwcrLinuxskpl: it's not in the dir or empty..02:28
OrTigaS_jason:  i change yesterday from the help to someone but supposed to be "0440"02:28
TokenBadthrough gparted02:28
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SmirnoffWhat does error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH02:28
SmirnoffSee `config.log' for more details.02:28
Smirnoff... mean? :)02:28
polpakTokenBad, I know that part =p02:28
apokryphosbiloyp: pastebin the error messages with the last few lines that compiled02:29
polpakSmirnoff, sudo apt-get install build-essential02:29
MathmanSmirnoff: you need a C compiler02:29
TokenBadI click on the drive...and pick resize/move02:29
kingspawnSmirnoff: means sudo apt-get install build-essential02:29
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OrTigaShow can change it to 0440?02:29
biloypi get this; "configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity che"02:29
WarboSmirnoff: You need gcc. Install "build-essential" package02:29
biloypcheck02:29
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_jasonOrTigaS: chmod 0440 something, but what is the something that is giving you trouble?02:29
apokryphosbiloyp: install build-essential kde-devel and libx11-dev02:29
OrTigaS_jason:  i cant "sudo -s"02:29
biloypok thx will give it a try02:30
TokenBadthen that gives me a screen saying free space preceding mb is 0...new size is my full hard drive size..and free space following mb is 002:30
TokenBadI have been trying to set the free space following mb to 7 gig02:30
WarboOrTigaS: If you need super user but sudo doesn't work reboot into "recovery" single user mode02:30
kingspawnOrTigaS: boot up in rescue mode, thatll give you are root shell02:30
OrTigaSah ok02:30
OrTigaSlemme try. thanks guys02:30
polpakTokenBad, try just clicking on the bar above (at the right side of the bar) and drag it smaller02:30
WarboTokenBad: Is it defragmented?02:31
SmirnoffAfter that command it goes through 2 of the 3 phases and stops at: E: Couldn't find package build-essntial02:31
Smirnoff... any clues?02:31
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_jasonSmirnoff: you made a typo02:31
OrTigaSbrb02:31
crimsunSmirnoff: 'build-essential'?02:31
kingspawnSmirnoff: spell it correctly :)02:31
WarboSmirnoff: You spelt it wrong02:31
TokenBadWarbo, umm...good question02:31
_jasonheh02:31
MathmanSmirnoff: your spelling is off02:31
Mathmanhaha, sorry.  =)02:31
WarboTokenBad: You cannot shrink a partition if it's data goes up to the end (with gaps)02:31
cafuegoyour taste in vodka too02:31
kingspawnMathman: a bit late with that one ;)02:31
polpakTokenBad, ah.. yes, he's right. You should scandisk/defrag before you resize02:31
Mathmankingspawn: that was on purpose.  =)02:31
SmirnoffDoh, thanks02:32
kingspawnhehe02:32
TokenBadok how defrag in ubuntu?02:32
MathmanTokenBad: you don't02:32
polpakTokenBad, do it in windows I think02:32
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TokenBadI don't have windows02:32
PwcrLinuxTokenBad: in your m$ and do scandisk/degfrag it02:32
polpakTokenBad, then why do you have a fat32 drive?02:32
cafuegoUm02:33
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kingspawnTokenBad: have you got enough room to back up the fat32 drive?02:33
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WarboShould be possible in Linux though, shouldn't it? I don't think Ubuntu comes with something to though02:33
TokenBadcause I had that before I installed linux02:33
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TokenBadkingspawn, no02:33
TokenBadits an 80 gig drive02:33
cafuegowhat's the gnome cd creator app called again?02:33
polpakTokenBad, I think you can put scandisk on a floppy, but I dunno about defrag02:33
Warbocafuego: gnomebaker02:33
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cafuegowarbo cheers02:33
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skplhow do i remove a directory with files in it?02:34
_jasonskpl: rm -r02:34
Warboskpl: rm -r02:34
Mathmanhaha, I'll refrain this time.02:34
kingspawnMathman: nooo... :)02:34
stuzz78polpak:  yes...  and it would be nice if it did :)02:34
skplcan someone help me? i am having trouble installing a program called mizio on my computer02:35
__mikemmathman refrain fron what02:35
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polpakstuzz78, wait, you installed server mode?02:35
Mathman__mikem: inside joke02:35
kingspawnskpl: just ask02:35
Warboskpl: Do you mean mezzo or am I totally off?02:35
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skplmizio02:35
biloypapokryphos; I installed but still no luck.....02:35
stuzz78polpak: yes...02:35
produkt_how can I upgrade ubuntu to kubuntu?02:35
apokryphosbiloyp: what error are you getting now?02:35
polpakstuzz78, do you have hal installed?02:35
__mikemsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:35
skpli extracted tha package and made the installation script executable02:35
Wallakoalawhy am I banned from #ubuntu+1?02:36
Warboskpl: Don't pay attention to me then (I'll just sit here and wonder why Mezzo does nothing after login)02:36
Smirnoffkingspawn: It still explains "E: couldn't find build".02:36
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biloypsame error, but the first error I get is "checking for g++... no"..but I do have that installed02:36
WarboSmirnoff: There is a hyphen (-) not a space ( )02:36
_jasonbiloyp: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'02:36
kingspawnSmirnoff: you are typing "sudo apt-get install build-essential" exactly like that?02:36
stuzz78polpak: what's the easiest wait find that out?  i tried running hal, and got nothing02:36
Mathmanbiloyp: what's "which g++" say?02:36
Smirnoffkingspawn: Yes.02:36
kingspawnSmirnoff: with the hyphen?02:37
polpakstuzz78, dpkg -L hal02:37
skplwarbo, this is what the installation script look like http://pastebin.com/67448902:37
Smirnoffyes... no hyphen?02:37
biloyp_jason; I am doing that now02:37
kingspawnSmirnoff: copy and paste just the line where you type the command, and the output02:37
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biloypMathman; it does not specify02:37
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stuzz78polpak:  that gives me a large list if directories with that contain hal02:37
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polpakstuzz78, ok, so it's installed then02:38
Mathmanbiloyp: then what makes you think you have it?  you might oughta go with this build-essential thing everyone's talking about.  it's the latest craze.02:38
skplwarbo, this is the error i am recieving: cat: /install/description: Not a directory02:38
skpl./doinst.sh: line 8: /var/log/packages/mizio-0.3.1-i386-1: No such file or directory02:38
skplmv: cannot stat `description.tmp': No such file or directory02:38
skplrm: cannot remove `/install/description': Not a directory02:38
stuzz78polpak: you got my hopes up for a minute there :)02:38
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__mikemlol @ Mathman02:38
Smirnoffkingspawn: This is what happens in terminal: yang2@Smirnoff:~$ sudo apt-get install build-essential02:39
SmirnoffReading package lists... Done02:39
SmirnoffBuilding dependency tree... Done02:39
SmirnoffE: Couldn't find package build-essential02:39
Smirnoffyang2@Smirnoff:~$02:39
_jason!paste02:39
ubotuPlease don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL02:39
biloyp_jason; that worked..thxs02:39
kingspawnskpl: that script of yours seems so environment specific its not even funny02:39
itrebal"checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"  whats up with that? i apt-got gcc and make02:39
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kingspawnitrebal: build-essential!02:39
_jasonSmirnoff: 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and put the ocntents on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please02:39
itrebalkingspawn: i should remember that one :/02:39
cheesechokerwhat does "low memory mode" do during install?02:39
kingspawnSmirnoff: okay, it seems like your sources.list may be a little off here02:39
_jasonwow it's build-essential hour02:39
Mathmanitrebal: I'd run autoreconf02:40
__mikemwhat the hell does it mean to have a c compiler that can't make executables02:40
itrebalMathman: how do you mean?02:40
kingspawn__mikem: it means that the linker is missing, i would believe02:40
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itrebal"configure: error: Blackbox requires the X Window System libraries and headers." wtf? what am i supposed to get :/02:40
Smirnoffkingspawn: How do I obtain some better sources?02:40
__mikemor the assembler02:40
skplkingspawn, does that mean it wont run in ubuntu?02:40
maxkelleyhey, I'm having a problem with my VNC not even starting a server.. in the log, it starts the server, but the log finishes with the message "could not load font 'fixed'"02:40
Mathmanitrebal: I mean run "autoreconf".  that will redo the autotools stuff, and maybe your configure script will work after that.02:40
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juztinwill switching from gnome to kde result in a noticable speed boost on a low-ram system?02:41
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Mathmanitrebal: that or you're missing a linker or something.  what's which ld say?02:41
_jasonjuztin: no02:41
kingspawnskpl: well, not necessarily, but you should just look at what each line of the script does, and execute them yourselves, with the directories fixed etc02:41
jack-juztin: LOL02:41
jbroomejuztin: not really.  might need to look into *box or xfce02:41
kingspawnwhats that sources.list generator again?02:41
_jasonjuztin: for that, you should try xubuntu02:41
skplkingspawn, alright02:41
__mikemgoing from gnome to kde should cause your computer to slow down02:41
_jason!easysource02:41
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:41
Mathmanmaxkelley: run xfs maybe?02:41
itrebaljuztin: going from gnome to kde, you will notice a speed *drop*02:41
kingspawnSmirnoff: take a look at that link02:41
Adyethswhat would cause me to NOT be able to start an x-terminal-emulator using a hotkey in gnome when I'm able to start other things, like a web browser, with the very same hotkey?02:41
juztinok thx all :)02:41
polpakstuzz78, can you pastebin the output from lshal, or lshal | less and look for your serial port02:41
maxkelleyMathman: arright, I'll try.02:41
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Smirnoffkingspawn: Which one? Sorry, at work and mucking about ;)02:42
__mikemAdyeths, can you start the terminal normally02:42
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kingspawnSmirnoff: the one ubotu last gave, ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:42
stuzz78polpak: what's pastebin?02:42
Adyethsyes. starts fine normally. I'd like to make it start with this hotkey though.02:42
polpak!pastebin02:43
ubotuhmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126902:43
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polpakAdyeths, how do you start it normally?02:43
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stuzz78polpak: how's it work?02:43
Adyethseither through the menu's... or by pressing alt+f2 and typing 'xterm'.02:43
Adyethsboth of those ways work ok to start it.02:44
WarboAdyeths: Drag the menu entry to your panel and go on it's properties for the exact command02:44
skplkingspawn, can you tell me what this is supposed to do? sed '/tmp /install/description' < "/tmp/mizio-0.3.1-i386-1" > description.tmp02:44
maxkelleyMathman: nope.. didn't work.02:44
__mikemxterm is minimalistic02:44
maxkelleyMathman: can I PM you the error message?02:44
_jasonAdyeths: try giving the full path to the binary maybe02:44
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maxkelley__mikem: yet very expansible.02:44
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__mikemnever tried it, gnome terminal works fine for me02:44
Adyethsif I could figure out how to do that in the gnome "keyboard-shortcuts" settings I would. but I haven't been able to figure out how to do that yet.02:45
kingspawnskpl: if you have those two files, 'description' and 'mizio...', just use the command on them02:45
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_jasonubotu: tell Adyeths about shortcuts02:45
Mathmanmaxkelley: beats me then.  or make sure you have X installed perhaps?  or just rearange your X configuration for vnc?  sure private message away.  I thought you already pasted it though.02:45
Warbo__mikem: It's nice but I like having New Terminal option02:45
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maxkelleyMathman: yeah, I have X02:45
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kingspawnAdyeths: just scroll a little down to "Run a terminal", press the shortcut, it says "new accelerator", and press the keycombo you want02:46
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kingspawnAdyeths: works like a charm here02:46
maxkelley!vnc02:46
ubotusomebody said vnc was http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)02:46
maxkelleythank you very mooch!02:46
Adyethsit used to work for me too. but I upgraded to Dapper. and for some reason now it doesn't work. just seems to be the terminal emulator though. and I can't figure out why.02:46
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kingspawnAdyeths: ah, with dapper i dont know02:46
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kingspawnAdyeths: #ubuntu+1 might be able to help02:47
blazemongerbrb02:47
Adyethsnobody there's answered me when I asked there.02:47
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kingspawnAdyeths: heh, seems like an exotic bug youve got there02:47
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eugmanAnybody know how to get firefox to open gnome-mud when I click on a telnet link?02:48
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Adyethsits definitely weird. heh.02:48
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james__!nvidia02:48
uboturumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736802:48
itrebalhow can i add an option to the window manager lists?02:48
AdyethsI'm going to try whats in that forum entry that was pm'd to me though. that might work.02:48
Warboitrebal: At login?02:48
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itrebalWarbo: yea02:48
Warboitrebal: What are you trying to add? Most packages will add themselves02:49
itrebalWarbo: blackbox, its not a package02:49
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Warboitrebal: Hmmm. Check in /etc for gdm and /usr/lib/gdm02:49
gtrplrI no longer have a wlan0 but now a eth1 and no wireless...any help?02:49
taelihi - I'm trying to follow a tutorial to set up my wireless card on ubuntu - but I need to use apt-get to install a few things - but I don't have wireless! on windows, can i download some things and then transfer them accross?02:50
gtrplrtaeli, do you have wired?02:50
_jasontaeli: packages.ubuntu.com, make sure you get all the dependencies as well02:50
taeligtrplr - no, I don't have wired02:51
taeliI need to get ndiswrapper-utils02:51
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taeliI've got a floppy tho, or a usb stick drive if need be02:51
Warbotaeli: You will need ALL of the packages apt asks for (dependencies can make this very laborious) then install them all at once with dpkg -i *.deb02:51
taelicould you find out what packages I need for ndiswrapper-utils please?02:51
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gtrplrtaeli, yeah...get all the things you need put them in a /dir that is accessable to linux02:52
gtrplrand install 'em02:52
_jasontaeli: the site tells you02:52
taeliwhich site tells me?02:52
dolsoncan anyone tell me why the update-notifier thing launches synaptic now instead of the little upgrader thingy? how do I fix it?02:52
Warbodolson: In breezy or Dapper02:52
dolsonWarbo: dapper, sorry :)02:52
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_jasontaeli: do you know python?02:53
_jasontaeli: packages.ubuntu.com02:53
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lflashlis there a google earth for linux02:54
trainstrokerwtf , i isntalled something from Add Aplications, and i dunno where the hell it is02:54
skplkingspawn, what does this mean? sed: -e expression #1, char 2: extra characters after command02:54
Mathmanlflashl: nope02:54
trezydoes anyone know the link for that step-by-step guide for buel-booting Windows XP and Ubuntu?02:54
gtrplrany help with my missing wlan0 ?02:54
trainstrokertrezy ill help you02:54
_jasontaeli: you will want to install all the dependencies that your computer does not already have installed02:54
kingspawnskpl: no idea :/02:54
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lflashltiem to use vm ware02:54
Warbodolson: Just updating my packages at the moment to the beta02:54
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skplcan someoen tell me what this mean? sed: -e expression #1, char 2: extra characters after command02:55
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Mathmantrainstroker: that's one of the things your package manager is there for.02:55
dolsonWarbo: cool, thanks02:55
trainstrokermathman, so all it does is install pacakges???02:55
Warbodolson: I'm already running Dapper so it won't take long02:55
Mathmantrainstroker: say what?02:55
Warbodolson: 7 mins02:55
gtrplrWarbo, did you update from Breezey ?02:55
trainstrokerok should add aplication install the damn thing?02:55
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Mathmantrainstroker: I'm saying if you've installed something, and you want to find where it's at, then query your package manager.02:56
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Warbogtrplr: Yes, a while ago (then I copied the installation to my usb drive)02:56
Mathmantrainstroker: that's what it's there for.02:56
Mathmanskpl: sure.  you have extra characters after your sed command.  sed doesn't like that.02:56
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skplwhat does the sed command do?02:56
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dolsonwhat does the man command do02:57
Mathmanskpl: stream editor.  it edits streams.02:57
Warbodolson: It gives you a manual02:57
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dolsonWarbo: lol, I know02:57
gtrplrWarbo, did you do the dist-update?02:57
trainstrokermathman: its not there ...02:57
Warbogtrplr: Yes02:57
Mathmantrainstroker: what makes you think you installed it?02:57
Warbodolson: Oh I see02:57
Mathmantrainstroker: what makes you think it's not there?02:57
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lflashlis there point to upgrade to gnome x.1402:57
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Mathmanlflashl: after it's out is always a good point.02:58
Warbolflashl: Apparently it's faster.02:58
gtrplrWarbo, I lost my wlan0 doing that02:58
gtrplrcant get  it back02:58
lflashlso how do i do it on apt-get02:58
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Warbogtrplr: I have a wlan0, but now it's configured my computer no longer boots with it in02:58
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gtrplrmy boots OK, just cant use wireless02:59
Warbogtrplr: PCI or PCMCIA (or USB)?02:59
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gtrplrpci02:59
gtrplrndis02:59
gtrplrbcom 530602:59
lflashlmine run fine didnt need to do anythin just turn it on02:59
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Warbogtrplr: Mine is PCI. And I searched eBay specifically for "wifi pci linux"02:59
OrTigaShi! still the first user cant do "sudo -s"03:00
gtrplrWarbo, I have even install ndis sources, re-made them, reinstalled wireless tools03:00
gtrplrnada03:00
Warbolflashl: I plugged it in and it worked. Then I rebooted :(03:00
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OrTigaSit say "mode 0600, must be 044003:00
lflashldam03:00
Mathmanmiller time on my end finally.  nite fellas.03:01
gtrplrwlan0     No such device03:01
gtrplrits driving me nutz03:01
Warbogtrplr: Well at least yours boots03:01
gtrplrtrue03:01
Mathmanand ladies.  if such mythical beasts even exist on irc.03:01
gtrplrdo you have a choice of a lot of kernels ??03:01
lflashlMathman, lol03:01
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WarboMathman: They are on irc, just not Linux irc03:01
gtrplrWarbo, try a different kern03:02
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Warbogtrplr: Sorry, trying not to do any kernel upgrading as I'm using a GRUB CD03:02
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OrTigaShow can change the mode of a 1st user?03:03
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OrTigaSwith the privilege of admin03:03
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itrebali didn't find anything in /etc/gdm regarding window managers, does anyone have other ideas how to add blackbox to GDM's list?03:03
gtrplrWarbo, any error ?03:04
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Warbogtrplr: With what?03:04
OrTigaShow can i change the mode of 1st user with the privilege of root/admin03:04
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gtrplrtrying to boot03:04
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_jasonitrebal: did the repo version of blackbox not add it?03:04
Warbogtrplr: If I don't use my CD I get "Operating System Not Found" (I am using USB everything)03:05
itrebalthe repo version of blackbox didn't exist, so no03:05
dolsonlol03:05
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_jason!info blackbox03:05
ubotublackbox: (Window manager for X), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.70.0-4 (breezy), Packaged size: 367 kB, Installed size: 1172 kB03:05
OrTigaShello03:05
_jasonseems to exist03:05
Warbodolson: Are you the Update Manager in Dapper guy?03:05
gtrplrWarbo, sounds like it didnt install correctly03:05
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gtrplrWarbo, dual boot ?03:05
OrTigaSi'm alive?03:05
itrebal$ sudo apt-cache search blackbox03:05
itrebalkblackbox - A simple logical game for the KDE project03:05
_jasonOrTigaS: seems so03:05
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OrTigaSokay03:05
gtrplrOrTigaS, that is debateable03:05
OrTigaShow can i change the mode of 1st user with the privilege of root/admin03:05
_jasonitrebal: do you have breezy universe?03:05
Warbogtrplr: No. My BIOS doesn't understand USB and my only IDE is Floppy and CDROM03:05
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Xk2ci cant get my cdrw running03:06
itrebal_jason: err... i'm not sure? its a brand new install03:06
_jasonubotu: tell itrebal about repos03:06
Xk2c[4294673.550000]  hdc: SONY CD-RW CRX140E, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive03:06
dolsonWarbo: what? I am running Dapper, I see there is one update available. I click the icon, put in my password, and it opens Synaptic instead of the update application03:06
_jasonitrebal: that should fix you up03:06
Xk2c[4295020.825000]  sr 2:0:0:0: Device not ready.03:06
Warbodolson: OK. Just remembered you began with a d. It is half way through installing updates (Hang on won't that make update manager go away :))03:07
ahmeniIs there a way to temporarily disable mouse input in KDE?03:07
OrTigaSgtrplr,  i delete somethig and the 1st user cant do sudo -s03:07
OrTigaSi'm running root now03:07
PwcrLinuxXk2c: Hmm older CDRW drive.. mines is CRX350E03:07
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Xk2cyes PwcrLinux03:07
dolsonWarbo: it has been doing this before too, but yesterday I reinstalled Dapper on a new hard drive.. same thing. only thing I can think is it's something in my ~03:08
Xk2cfrom 1999 PwcrLinux03:08
gtrplrOrTigaS,  try  su -03:08
itrebalthanks03:08
PwcrLinuxXk2c: yep03:08
Warbodolson: There was a load of updates so I thought I would get them before commenting on Dapper apps03:08
Xk2cwhat can i do PwcrLinux ?03:08
OrTigaSwhen i type sudo -s it say "mode is 0600 must be 0440"03:08
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slaterockquestion question!03:09
Xk2ci have put ide_generic ide_cd ide_disk cdrom ide-scsi in /etc/modules03:09
slaterockdoes anyone know why i have these tiny white specks that randomly popup?03:09
PwcrLinuxXk2c: device not ready?, could be older CDRW drive didn't work, and you can get cheap CDRW drive, is that slim or half-height bays?03:09
OrTigaSokay lemme try thats sudo -03:09
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Warboslaterock: On what?03:09
riddleboxis anyone using a pvr500?03:09
slaterockjust on the desktop03:09
kingspawnOrTigaS: didnt recovery mode work?03:10
gtrplrOrTigaS, just   su-03:10
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slaterockit's just tiny white flecks03:10
Xk2chmm PwcrLinux but in breezy it worked lile charm03:10
OrTigaSkingspawn,  didnt03:10
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slaterockcould it be a refresh rate issue?03:10
kingspawnOrTigaS: why not?03:10
slaterockor, vert and horiz sync?03:10
Xk2cwhy should i buy a new one?03:10
Warboslaterock: Is it a problem with your monitor or connection?03:10
slaterockmonitor03:10
slaterockcause, when i had windows installed, i never saw it03:10
SodiumWhere can I get the configuration files to run WinXP on VMWare Player?03:10
Warboslaterock: Refresh rate problems end up with multiple copies of your screen overlapping and interleaved (in my experience)03:11
OrTigaSkingspawn, what i'm supposed to do? to work the sudo -s in the 1st user?03:11
PwcrLinuxXk2c: Oh, put the CD into drive, the desktop will appearing a CD icon, it's automounting..03:11
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slaterockhmmmm03:11
kingspawnOrTigaS: with recovery mode you dont need to sudo, you are already root03:11
Xk2coki ill try that PwcrLinux03:11
slaterocki wonder what it is03:11
OrTigaSkingspawn,  yes and i am now03:11
Xk2cPwcrLinux: thanks so far03:11
Warboslaterock: What driver are you using?03:11
kingspawnOrTigaS: okay, which file do you want to change?03:11
slaterockthe default driver on ubuntu breeezy03:11
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daddiushey everyone03:12
slaterocki'm running an ati 9100 agp03:12
OrTigaSi just want to make the 1st user as can do admin/root03:12
Warboslaterock: What graphics card?03:12
PwcrLinuxXk2c: does it's appearing on desktop?03:12
slaterockigp i mean03:12
slaterockati 9100 igp03:12
kingspawnOrTigaS: yes, but you said you changed some file03:12
daddiusquick question on wireless network...03:12
Xk2cwohooo PwcrLinux yeah03:12
OrTigaSkingspawn,  and i deleted already but still the same03:12
Xk2cit does PwcrLinux :D03:12
OrTigaS:(03:12
Warboslaterock: Oh ATI OK. That should be OK with ati driver. You COULD try using vesa to see if is a driver problem03:12
OrTigaSeven the sounds wont work now03:12
gtrplrkingspawn, whan you have a sec, I'd like to ask about a missing wlan003:12
PwcrLinuxXk2c: great, have play with a DVD or CD or writing to CD.03:12
slaterockhow do i try vesa?03:12
kingspawnOrTigaS: you deleted what? im not getting you here03:13
daddiusis it possible for ubuntu's Network settings to connect to a 128 bit WEP?03:13
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kingspawngtrplr: im afraid my knowledge of wireless is extremely poor, i never use anything that doesnt have a cord attached03:13
OrTigaSi deleted what i add/change before03:13
Xk2cyup PwcrLinux ill test that later03:13
gtrplrkingspawn, I have little choice03:13
slaterockoh, and does someone know typical vert and horiz settings on a 1280 x 800 laptop lcd?03:13
Xk2cthank you PwcrLinux03:13
Hobbseedaddius: it should be03:13
PwcrLinuxXk2c: :)03:13
Xk2c:)03:13
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gtrplrkingspawn, well, Thanks anyway03:13
kingspawngtrplr: heh :/03:13
Warboslaterock: Run "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" in a terminal and look for "Device" and replace "Driver" section's ati with vesa then save, log out and press ctrl-alt-backspace03:14
kingspawnOrTigaS: well, you deleted or changed it back?03:14
daddiusHobbsee, strange everytime i put in that long key it simply woon't work... but I am able to connect to a network that doesn't require this.03:14
avrhi! where do i get a list of official repositories for ubuntu which have the latest packages? kind of like debian unstable...03:14
slaterockdoes vesa supply 3d acceleration?03:14
gtrplradios!03:14
Hobbseedaddius: weird, i'm not a user of wep, and i dont use gnome either, but i thought it was possible03:14
Warboslaterock: No way, it is the bare minimum03:14
slaterockahh, pffttt03:14
Warboslaterock: Just seeing if it is a driver problem (see if it happens with vesa)03:14
daddiusHobbsee, what other gui do you use?03:15
slaterocki think it's a vert and horiz setting thing03:15
OrTigaSkingspawn,  the one i add i delete it....03:15
Hobbseedaddius: kde03:15
slaterocki just changed them, and i'm not seeing as much03:15
daddiusahh kubuntu03:15
kingspawnOrTigaS: yes, but what did you add to what?03:15
Xk2cahh PwcrLinux what about hdparm?03:16
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Warboavr: Dapper (same as your breezy ones but with dapper instead of breezy)03:16
Xk2cit does not apear as hdc as it was used to03:16
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PwcrLinuxXk2c: hang on let look at the hdpram line03:16
Xk2c$ hdparm /dev/hdc03:17
Xk2c/dev/hdc: No such file or directory PwcrLinux03:17
avrWarbo: thanks, but i dont want to upgrade to dapper.. i just want to know which lines to add to sources.lst for getting the latest packages.03:17
OrTigaSi add a user privilege to other one, but it not wokrning so i delete the user... thats start my problem...1st user cant do "sudo -s"03:17
OrTigaSbut before it can03:17
lordnirubuntu doesn't come with x?03:17
Xk2c$ hdparm /dev/hdd03:17
Xk2c/dev/hdd: using_dma    =  1 (on) PwcrLinux03:17
Xk2cthis is my DVD-Rom PwcrLinux03:17
Warboavr: Dapper has the latest. The sources.list lines are the same as breezy but replace "breezy" with "dapper". If you don't want to upgrade then don't add them to your sources03:17
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arrickHi all Im back03:19
Killazis there an application where I can get mailed that my disk is running out of space?03:19
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OrTigaSgot my question?03:19
PwcrLinuxXk2c: it's a hard drive as /dev/hdd   do dmesg look for the CDRW line.. which the /dev/hd* line?03:19
WarboKillaz: You could make a script involving df03:19
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Xk2cdf Killaz03:20
SmirnoffWhen trying to switch in a "su" account in terminal it asks for a password. Does it want the root password I created?03:20
Killazhmm scripting with linux is new for me.... where can I get info about scripting?03:20
WarboGoing into #ubuntu+1 for a bit03:20
arrickKillaz, try #apache03:20
avrKillaz: man bash03:20
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Xk2cahhh PwcrLinux  tunrs out [4294706.723000]  ide-scsi is deprecated for cd burning! Use ide-cd and give dev=/dev/hdX as device03:21
Xk2chow do i add this option PwcrLinux03:21
AaronMTWhen is the final release date for the new ubunut?03:21
PwcrLinuxhdx? or hdc? which on?03:21
PwcrLinuxone03:21
Killazarick: #apache? that's a webserver why should I use a webserver to tell me about my disk capacity03:21
djs_2_6Hey all.  Breezy user, trying to format a DVD+RW to add files to it.  I have tried formatting the disk using gnomebaker, but now the disk will not mount.  Can anyone help me please?03:22
Xk2chdc PwcrLinux that message was from dmesg | grep hd03:22
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arrickhey Killaz I thought you asked about scripting03:22
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arrickthey helped me last night03:22
PwcrLinuxokay then do manually hdpram at hdc to turn on the DMA03:22
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Warbohdpram lol03:24
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pvd2006what is the command to reset gnome?03:24
Warbopvd2006: To restart or to get rid of it's settings?03:24
CanuteHi there, I'm running a hlds server on my ubuntu box, but i have a small problem: I run it through putty on my windows comp, and then when i shut this down the server would go down aswell, is it possible to like make it run in the bakground?03:24
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mjrlordnir, sure it does03:24
KnelixSo, I copied all my music over from my Mac and installed AmaroK, yet I still can't play most of my files... and they're mostly in mp3 format, some in AAC, and only a hanful in protected AAC, which I don't expect it to play, and it's not a problem. But, why oh why don't the other files play?03:24
pvd2006Warbo, I just did an update and I want the changes to take place.03:25
MarcNCanute: hlds?03:25
PwcrLinuxWarbo: yea, he want to manually set dma on, so I edited the hdpram.conf and works good :)03:25
lordnirheh, i can't find it, startx doesn't work03:25
Canutehalf-life dedicated server03:25
Warbopvd2006: Usually just log out. For a command try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" but this will NOT restart GNOME (as GNOME will exit before it can bring itself back up)03:25
OrTigaSmy problem solve... i just edit again the sudoers and add the 1st user..... now i have this problem arrive the sounds wont work :(03:25
Xk2cokay then do manually hdpram at hdc to turn on the DMA -> hdc does not exist03:26
MarcNCanute: (nohup hlds&)03:26
Xk2cbut maybe i found a solution with your help03:26
WarboHmmm. Will pvd2006 be stuck in a console?03:27
Xk2ci am off and try that PwcrLinux03:27
Xk2ccu later PwcrLinux03:27
PwcrLinuxXk2c: okay take care03:27
Xk2cand thanks PwcrLinux03:27
Xk2c;)03:27
varsendagger!ff1.503:27
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion03:27
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ahmeniIs there a way to enable/disable a mouse in Xorg?03:28
ahmeniWithout restarting xorg itself03:28
Warboahmeni: Unplug it :)03:28
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ahmenilaptop touchpad03:29
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Warboahmeni: Unplug it :)03:29
ahmeni*crunch*03:29
trainstrokerwhats a cpu load measure that will be transparent and i can move it around the screen?03:29
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Warbotrainstroker: Gdesklets03:29
trainstrokerfuck them03:29
trainstrokeri tried03:29
Warbotrainstroker: Karamba?03:29
PwcrLinux!language03:30
ubotuPlease watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.03:30
aPif i backup all my files to a .tar.gz i can then unzip that later and have my old system back right?03:30
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KnelixGuys, where can I find a list of valid apt-get commands?03:30
OrTigaShi help me with my sounds now it wont work :(03:30
ahmeniI tried pointing X's mouse at a fifo, then piping /dev/input/mice when needed, but that doesn't quite work03:30
luis_hola03:30
AgrajagKnelix: man apt-get03:30
WarboaP: Yes. Gzip takes ages. Try just .tar if you don't care about space03:30
luis_como entro en espaol03:31
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Agrajag!es03:31
OrTigaSwala03:31
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:31
aPWarbo: how much bigger will it be?03:31
aPWarbo: because i want to keep the /home partition and just merge all the others03:31
KnelixI mean packages, Agrajag.03:31
aPWarbo: so i'm thinking if i can keep the .tar on my pc boot a clean ubuntu and then just untar from the home partition03:31
WarboaP: I'm not sure, but it will be the same size as your system is now. I don't know how much gzip would compress it (but it would be a lot)03:31
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Agrajagyou want a list of all packages? tried synaptic?03:31
Agrajagor aptitude03:32
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Agrajagor apt-cache search <whatever> to search03:32
aPWarbo: their is this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8131103:32
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luis_holan03:33
luis_hola03:33
luis_alguien por favor03:33
WarboaP: You can run exactly the same command without the z option to just get a tar file (it would be sensible to change the name to .tar as well)03:33
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aPWarbo: and will tar be fast?03:34
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luis_hello03:34
WarboaP: Tar basically just copies the files to the archive without compressing them so it is very fast03:34
Knelixhmm.03:34
aPWarbo: k03:34
WarboaP: If you are low on space use "df" to see how much you are losing (and "ls -l" to see the size of the file)03:35
aPWarbo: i think i can manage it.03:35
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nbjaymehello folks. i have an athlon xp motherboard with onboard nforce2 ethernet. i cannot make it work under ubuntu hoary. please help!!! :(03:35
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aPWarbo: what options do i give tar03:36
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nbjaymejoin #ubuntu-ph03:36
nbjayme:x03:36
WarboaP: tar cvpf backup.tar / --exclude all of the ones it tells you03:37
fireonyxquick question..  I am trying to use the time function under shell (time a process), setting the formating to be "%e"... so I type "time -f "%e" ls" for instance... but the bash comes back saying bash: -f: command not found... how come it wont take the -f command?03:37
WarboaP: sorry, / at the end03:37
OrTigaShi help me to work my sounds seems to be working but now it wont... when i'm in root it works!03:37
aPWarbo: tar cvpf backup.tar --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /03:38
Madpilot!sound03:38
ubotusound is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary03:38
aPchange that to .tar03:38
Warbofireonyx: time is followed by the command to be timed -f isn't a command03:38
MadpilotOrTigaS: see the two URLs the bot just posted above ^^^03:38
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fireonyxyes, I am trying to change the way time outputs its results03:38
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fireonyxim following what it says under man time03:38
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WarboaP: you may want to exclude /home if you are keeping that seperate03:39
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aPWarbo: good point03:39
Breezy-CAEvery so often X quits on me - seems to be accompanied by a gdm_xioerror_handler Fatal X error. How can I troubleshoot? So far have looked for temperature problems, bad RAM, and a rootkit - negative on all.03:39
nbjaymeplease help me on nForce2 ethernet with hoary... :(03:39
WarboaP: Otherwise maybe exclude /dev (I think)03:39
aPWarbo: i don't think so because when i copy all the files they might look in /dev03:40
aPand the guide doesnt' say to not do it03:40
CaminomasterHello " all03:40
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WarboaP: OK then, follow the guide's advice. The rest is perfect03:40
treeformnbjayme, it sounds more like a forum search03:40
aPWarbo: it's going real fast, gonna go watch some tv and i'll check on it in a few03:41
nbjaymeokay. i'll try.03:41
aPhey guys, where do i get a dapper install cd03:41
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Warboap: cdimages.ubuntu.com I think03:42
Breezy-CAAny thoughts on gdm / X problem?03:43
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avistacan Ubuntu run Vis5d and Gempak?03:43
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Blarehello03:43
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aPWarbo: wait a sec, if i'm just going to restore a dapper archive than i can just use a breezy install cd can't it?03:44
aPi*03:44
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hyperstreamive just brought a second hand 21" monitor and the settings for my old 15" was a maximum of 1024 * and 60 hertz im wondering how i can get higher resolutions and hertz?03:45
CaminomasterIt is possible to make visible a local partition besides "file system" and "personal folder"?03:45
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WarboaP: Logically yes. I wouldn't try it as the programs which are being run when you restore would be using a different verion's configfile and stuff. It should be fine after a reboot03:45
aPWarbo: so your saying i can do it, then just reboot, or no don't do it03:46
WarboCaminomaster: I don't use "Computer" at all. Everything is in / ("Filesystem")03:46
WarboaP: Do it if you have nothing important at stake03:46
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aPWarbo: well the whole idea of this is to fix a system problem im having without losing my /home or preferrably anything03:46
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aPWarbo: or could i even do this from a live cd?03:47
WarboaP: Well you shouldn't be changing /home so you shgould be fine. Oh yeah, when extracting don't use the z option either :)03:47
CaminomasterWarbo, I've mounted those partitions into filesys, but I want to see them outside filesys in the left menu in nautilus03:47
CaminomasterTo fast access...03:47
WarboCaminomaster: Maybe add them to bookmarks?03:47
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MisterNn803:47
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CaminomasterWarbo, How can I?03:48
WarboCaminomaster: Go there in Nautilus and Bookmarks>Add03:48
ramza3ubuwhere are the options to have the monitor to disable after X number of minutes, it is not at the screen saver settings03:48
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Breezy-CAAnyone have a guess what would cause gconfd to sig 15 and shut down? Where should I begin to look?03:49
aPramza3ubu: it's called DPMS03:49
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aPramza3ubu: Option "DPMS"03:49
phoulWhat file do the desktop pictures go to?03:49
aPjust delete the whole line03:49
phoulfor gnome03:49
aPand restart X03:49
WarboaP: That's what that option does....03:49
phoulI was guessing ~/.desktop03:49
phoulBut I was wrong03:49
aPWarbo: yep03:49
phoulBackgrounds is what I mean03:49
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aPdirect power monitor saving03:49
ramza3ubuaP: can I configure it from the gnome desktop, with some app?03:49
aPor something03:49
CaminomasterWarbo, I still don't understand... First bookm, add or have first to select the folder?03:49
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aPramza3ubu: no, use sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:50
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WarboCaminomaster: Go to the folder, then add it to bookmarks from the Bookmarks menu03:50
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aPWarbo: so can i use a breezy live-cd or not mate?03:50
WarboCaminomaster: If you do this with your / (Filesystem), your CDs and Floppies as well then you can basically replace "Computer"03:51
WarboaP: I think so03:51
ramza3ubuaP: I have it enabled ... Section Monitor... Option DPMS?03:51
trainstrokerhelp plz >< my computer linux and windows cannot detect my hardware. they cant detect that i have a x300 gfx card and cant detect my fans and my sensors ...wtf is wrong. i reinstalled windows b4 this happened03:51
aPramza3ubu: just delete the whole line03:51
aPWarbo: i just mount my HD do the partitioning and untar the archive ?03:52
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frankie_how do you configure NAT?03:52
trainstrokerfrankie: go to your modem03:52
Blarehas somebody installed fglx ati drivers under ubuntu64??03:52
ramza3ubuaP: can I just set it to true03:52
WarboaP: Should be it. If you use a different filesystem check fstab and such03:52
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trainstrokerthrough ur browser03:52
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aPramza3ubu: you want it on or off03:52
ramza3ubuaP: on03:53
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Warboramza3ubu: If you put a # at the start of the line it will disble it without deleting it (if you want it later just remove the #)03:53
aPramza3ubu: then add that text to the device section03:53
CaminomasterThanks Warbo! I can see that in "places" menu, but in tree I can't03:53
CaminomasterThere's no way 4 this?03:53
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cattackI am having a problem with my sound.  I have an ALC850 Realtek card (Asus K8N-E motherboard). build in.03:53
Breezy-CAMeh03:53
Breezy-CACan someone help me with a breezy gdm problem?03:53
cattackI cannot get any sound out of it on any linux distro I have tried though they all detect it.03:54
WarboCaminomaster: I don't know (I was making it up to be honest, so I'm not sure)03:54
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trainstrokerthrough ur browser03:54
trainstrokerhelp plz >< my computer linux and windows cannot detect my hardware. they cant detect that i have a x300 gfx card and cant detect my fans and my sensors ...wtf is wrong. i reinstalled windows b4 this happened03:54
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PwcrLinuxfrankie_: do you have a router box?03:54
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Blarehas somebody installed fglx ati drivers under ubuntu64??03:54
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CaminomasterThanks anyway, I get it.03:55
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CaminomasterDOn't U know about alsa and midi?03:56
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stephenklHow do I tell apt not to upgrade something?03:56
_jasonubotu: tell stephenkl about pinning03:56
trainstrokerhelp plz >< my computer linux and windows cannot detect my hardware. they cant detect that i have a x300 gfx card and cant detect my fans and my sensors ...wtf is wrong. i reinstalled windows b4 this happened03:56
Breezy-CAEvery so often X quits on me - seems to be accompanied by a gdm_xioerror_handler Fatal X error. How can I troubleshoot? So far have looked for temperature problems, bad RAM, and a rootkit - negative on all. Any thoughts would be welcome ...03:56
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CaminomasterWho can help me with MIDI?03:57
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_jason!midi03:58
ubotu[midi]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736 or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo03:58
_jeffhey guys03:58
Breezy-CAAnyone ?03:58
_jeffcan anybody help me with my wlan troubles?03:58
_jeffhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16390403:58
cattackIs anyone familure with the Asus motherboards and getting built in sound working (Realtek ALC850 on an K8N Deluxe)?03:59
PwcrLinuxcya later all03:59
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Breezy-CAMaybe later then04:00
Caminomaster_jason, I've tried the HOwTo but I cannot make sound an instrument in  Rosegarden04:00
scottyr_jeff! Are you online with a lan or dialup????04:00
dolsonwell, I'm going to bed. thanks though04:00
_jasonCaminomaster: ah, sorry the howtos are all I know04:00
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_jeffscottyr: lan, cable internet04:00
CaminomasterWho knows how to use rosegarden?04:01
Caminomaster(thank you _jason)04:01
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scottyr_jeff. Great! I went throught the devil with wlan and the internet with my first install. wlan was all I had....04:01
EleafIf I pipe or move something into /dev/null , it 'deletes' it right?04:01
seamus-laptopEleaf: correct, you can redirect a programs output to /dev/null if you don't want it04:02
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scottyr_jeff. Also I was running WPA encryption on the router, already. It was fun getting ubuntu to work04:02
cattackIs anyone familure with the Asus motherboards and getting built in sound working (Realtek ALC850 on an K8N Deluxe)?  I am running the the newest live cd of Ubuntu.04:03
crimsuncattack: the newest being 5.10 or 6.06?04:03
Eleafcool seamus-laptop , thanks for reassuring me.04:03
cattack5.1.004:03
cattack*5.1004:03
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crimsuncattack: pastebin the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''04:04
crimsun!pastebin04:04
ubotupastebin is, like, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126904:04
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bthorntonAnyone know where I can find some instructions on replacing my 64-bit Firefox browser with the 32-bit version (using native Ubuntu packages)?04:04
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jimcooncathas anyone here installed kolab? or any other openpkg software?04:04
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seamus-laptopbthornton: there may be a wiki entry04:05
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dargeerhi - anyone change to x2 from single core and find slower performance (from google it appears to affect windows xp also)04:05
gpmhi guys. anyone know what package i need to install to get animated progress bars in gnome (on dapper here)?04:05
bur[n] eranimated?04:05
bur[n] erwhat gtk theme do you use?04:05
gpmclearlooks04:05
bthorntonseamus-laptop: well, the main reason I need the 32-bit is so that I can use the Macromedia Flash plugin, and there is a wiki for installing the flash plugin--but the Wiki's solution is to use some open source version of Flash (which does work in the 64-bit Firefox).04:06
cattackcrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1270404:06
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bur[n] erhrm... i thought that was all there was to it... maybe try ubuntulooks?04:06
gpmthere's a theme on art.gnome.org called clearlooks-quicksilver that's supposed to have animated themes, but when i try to use it...it just shows the ugly default theme04:06
dargeerno one using x2?04:06
bthorntonI'm not interested in the open source Flash since it doesn't work nearly as well as Macromedia's04:06
Xk2cPwcrLinux-Away: it works now ;)04:06
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seamus-laptopbthornton: yes, that version is very outdated... compatible with flash 3 only04:06
bur[n] erand the *official* flash is only version 7 :\04:07
seamus-laptopbthornton:  you need to set up a 32 bit chroot I believe04:07
Xk2cPwcrLinux-Away: i had to change ide-scsi to ide-cd04:07
bur[n] ersupposedly we get 9 in the linux world though seamus-laptop and bthornton :)04:07
bthorntonseamus-laptop: yeah, which is why I'm surprised that there isn't a wiki for changing to the 32-bit browser.04:07
stephenklIf i'm running firefox 1.5 and I apt-get upgrade, will it overwrite it?04:07
dargeeri guess you people discussing 32 bit browsers means i am in a time warp04:08
seamus-laptophttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot04:08
crimsuncattack: in a Terminal: amixer sset 'IEC958' off && amixer sset 'External Amplifier' on04:08
trainstrokerhelp plz >< my computer linux and windows cannot detect my hardware. they cant detect that i have a x300 gfx card and cant detect my fans and my sensors ...wtf is wrong. i reinstalled windows b4 this happened04:08
Xk2cstephenkl: your profile?04:08
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seamus-laptopbthornton: follow the instructions on that wiki, good luck :)04:09
Madpilot!tell trainstroker about sensors04:09
jimcooncatanyone here use kolab at all?04:09
bthorntonyikes, chroot'ing just to run a 32-bit version of Firefox?04:09
seamus-laptopthat's your best option until edgy04:09
bthorntonI can't just replace the 64-bit Firefox package with the 32-bit version?04:09
bthorntonedgy?04:10
bthornton!edgy04:10
ubotuEdgy Eft is the next codename for Ubuntu dapper+1. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000064.html04:10
jimcooncatbthornton, don't be afraid to chroot04:10
cattackUm....that command did not fix it04:10
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seamus-laptopbthornton I don't know exactly what they're planning for edgy, but I heard virtualization mentioned04:11
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jimcooncatI want my Xen installed for me, so I want Eft04:11
cattackcrimsun: I did that but it had no effect.04:12
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crimsuncattack: then mute 'External Amplifier' again04:12
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bthorntonI don't see why virtualization is necessary for purposes of running 32-bit apps on an AMD64 architecture--AMD64 should be able to run 32-bit apps and 64-bit apps mixed-mode.  I do it on my Fedora installations all the time.04:13
bigfoot1i'm currently on Dapper Beta. Where can i post on the ubuntuforums?04:13
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bigfoot1What subforums are appropriate?04:13
bthorntonThe 32-bit Firefox is about the only thing keeping Fedora on my laptop actualy.04:13
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Madpilotbigfoot1: there's a Dapper forum04:13
cattackcrimsun: still nothing.04:13
WillyTellhello everybody04:13
bigfoot1Madpilot: "Dapper Drake Development Release" forum?04:13
WillyTellCan someone help me with kde?04:14
crimsuncattack: fresh install of breezy or dist-upgrade from hoary?04:14
NullVectorI'm having problems with Firefox crashing on me, anyone else having this problem or know of a solution?04:14
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NullVectorephiany works fine04:14
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cattackcrimsun: How do I tell which distro I am running?  I think it might be breezy04:14
crimsuncattack: lsb_release -r04:14
WillyTellI am trying to install kde on my ubuntu, but can't.04:15
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cattack5.104:15
crimsuncattack: you probably installed it fresh if you don't remember installing hoary (5.04) then dist-upgrading04:15
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cattackcrimsun: I am using the current ISOs from the webpage (via the download link)04:15
WillyTell.04:15
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_jasonWillyTell: how are you trying to install it?04:15
cattackcrimsun: I was using the live cd version to see if ubuntu would fix my sound issues as FC4 had the same problems.  Do you think a HD Install might resolve it?04:16
WillyTellwith synaptic04:16
crimsuncattack: unmute all of 'Surround', 'Center', 'LFE', and 'Line', and make sure their levels are non-zero04:16
MadpilotWillyTell: install kubuntu-desktop04:16
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TokenBadok finally got my drive to partition..but now how do I mount the hdd3 partition?04:16
WillyTellok, I am going to try it.04:16
bigfoot1Madpilot: is the "Beginner's Forum" inappropriate for Dapper users?04:17
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OrTigaShi help me to work my sounds seems to be working but now it wont... when i'm in root it works!04:17
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WillyTellwell, synaptic: "kubuntu-desktop:04:18
WillyTell Depends: kwin but it is not going to be installed"04:18
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OrTigaSand what it means this error when i login as root "Internal Error" "failed to initialize HAL"04:19
_jasonWillyTell: 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and put the contents on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please04:19
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NullVectorhow would you uninstall software, such as a game?04:19
cattackcrimsun: All are unmuted but I still get nothing.  How do I make sure it is using analog audio and not trying to spit it out the coax plug?04:20
_jasonNullVector: how did you install it?04:20
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thepeanutbutter7is there a way i can burn avi files to a dvd to read as a regular dvd movie?04:20
wd3what's the command to tar a gz?04:20
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crimsuncattack: it is by default. You have to force it to use the spdif04:20
_jasonwd3: to actual tar a gz file?04:20
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_jasonactually*04:20
NullVector_jason: I installed it using the install script04:20
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_jasonNullVector: then you must read the README files for that game and any other docs04:21
wd3_jason, what's up man been awhile. yeah, i downloade fluxbox and a theme and need to tar the tar.gz file04:21
NullVector_jason: there is also an uninstall script but it leaves the files04:21
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_jasonwd3: how's it going? you mean untar right? tar xvzf file.tar.gz04:21
_jasonNullVector: delete them I guess04:22
CokeNCodehmmm, i'm not sure if this is the right place, but can anyone give me some info on how to configure sendmail with xampp04:22
wd3_jason, yes, thanks. to test it first is with tvzf right?04:22
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eugmanHey is there a way to get a clipboard in ubuntu? It's annoying if I copy something and it's gone when I cose the program.04:23
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_jasonwd3: I don't know what that does04:23
NullVectornow to reinstall it and see if I can't get it right this time, Anyone here play UT2004 on Ubunto?04:23
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hyperstreamis there any music making applications like a fruityloops for linux?04:24
wd3_jason, ok. hey thanks man.  catch u in a bit, trying to check out this fluxbox.04:24
_jasonwd3: you know fluxbox is in the repos?04:24
shinakumahas anyone have any experience with lex/yacc i have one small question04:24
Kamandagsound editing only afaik like audacity04:24
cattackJust wondering....how good does ubuntu run as an Web server serving ASP.NET pages?04:24
NullVector_jason: is fluxbox similar to blackbox?04:24
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_jasonNullVector: yeah04:24
eugmanhyperstream lmms is a fruityloops clone.04:25
wd3_jason, yeah but old version. 1.2, i found 1.4 at dopey's site.04:25
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NullVector_jason: I use to use blackbox4win as an alternative to the windows.exe shell04:25
cattackcrimsun: No change.04:25
kbrooksbed04:25
_jasonNullVector: now you can have the real thing :)04:25
crimsuncattack: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat04:25
NullVector_jason: suppose I can04:25
adam_does anyone know how mount .mds images (created with DVD decryptor under windows)04:26
CanuteIm trying to install eggdrop and i get this error: "Tcl cannot be found on this system." Is it possible to apt-get install tcl? i can't find any packages which works04:26
cattack2 lines04:26
NullVector_jason: to be truthfull, the only thing that has really kept me from linux was not being able to every successfully get the nvidia drivers installed properly04:26
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_jasonNullVector: have you tried the instructions on the wiki?04:26
cattackcrimsun:  Two lines, 0: Realtek ALC850 rev 0 and 1: mixer1004:27
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NullVector_jason: yes, and they were successful, you know when they put those instructions up? last time I had ubunto installed was more than 6 months ago.04:27
crimsuncattack: ok, please try the following instructions being sent to you.04:27
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_jasonNullVector: I think they have been there for a while, but you can check the history on the wiki04:28
hyperstreameugman,  thanks man :)04:28
blindxi recall a command-line utility to resize images, does anyone know the name of it?04:28
_jasonblindx: convert, mogrify, you get them with libmagick04:28
NullVector_jason: nah, cause if I find they were there when I originally tried to use linux I will feel dumb04:28
blindxlibmagick .. in the repos?04:28
_jasonblindx: yep04:28
_jasonNullVector: ignorance is bliss as they say :)04:29
crimsuncattack: if you get errors with dpkg, just execute ``sudo apt-get -f install'' to continue. When you get to the dpkg-reconfigure step, choose 'yes' for both plug-n-play and debugging symbols, and leave the cards at 'all'.04:29
WillyTell_jason, I am doing a upgrade.04:29
NullVector_jason: in this case, I agree04:29
robertjq. who are the low contrast themes helpful for?04:29
blindxsays i already have it, _jason, do a man libmagick?04:29
_jasonblindx: man convert04:29
NullVectorrobertj: I would imagine people hard at seeing04:29
blindxblind@ubuntu:~$ man convert04:29
blindxNo manual entry for convert04:29
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robertjNullVector: but wouldn't they want high contrast?04:29
skplhas anyone here seen or heard of a trojan in the form of a jpg introduced vie the net?04:29
adam_maybe people w/ good sight04:30
blindxskpl: i used to make those :P04:30
_jasonblindx: oops, I should have said 'imagemagick'04:30
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skplwhy would you do that04:30
blindximagemagick haha.04:30
WillyTell_jason, I am doing an upgrade. It's Ok?04:30
NullVectorrobertj: would depend on their eyes04:30
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cattackcrimsun: Thanks for your help however with this being the live cd...I will save these instructions for when I get my HD rebuild and the offline install done (as I only have 56k modem access and it would probally take half the night to download just to be erased).04:30
_jasonWillyTell: upgrade from what to what?04:30
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eugmanAnyone know if there is a way to save copied stuff even when the program closes?04:30
blindxahh that's much better, thanks _jason04:30
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adam_i use a custom low contrast so the rest of my family cant see what im doing04:30
shinakumahas anyone have any experience with lex/yacc i have one small question04:31
NullVectorWillyTell: you life fluxbox?04:31
WillyTellwell, I follow your instruction but, nothing happen04:32
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WillyTellNullVector, what?04:32
_jasonWillyTell: that doesn't really answer my question, I'm not sure what you are doing04:32
NullVectorWillyTell: you are using fluxbox right? how are you liking it?04:32
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WillyTellI put, apt-get install distr-upgrade in a xterm04:33
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_jasonWillyTell: what are you trying to accomplish?04:33
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WillyTellI am trying to install kde in my ubuntu.04:34
_jasonWillyTell: 'sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop'04:34
biovoreWillyTell: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:34
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adam_whats the linux/ubuntu equivilant of "extend desktop"04:35
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reikiok so I click on gdesklets... spin... something happens... but I don't SEE anything. What's supposed to happen?04:35
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blindxhah hey _jason, are you familiar with convert at all? for some reason I can't get the syntax right..04:36
Amaranthstupid xchat python04:36
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WillyTellI do that, but some package could not be installed.04:36
blindxnevermind..04:36
_jasonblindx: did you visit http://www.imagemagick.org/script/convert.php ?04:36
cattackAnyone here running Mono?04:36
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blindxno, i figured it out.04:36
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blindxplay with something enough and you'll figure it out :\04:37
NullVectorsudo apt-get install fluxbox, will that install fluxbox over gnome? or will I have uninstall gnome?04:37
WillyTell_jason, kubuntu-desktop depends: kwin but it is not going to be installed.04:37
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_jasonNullVector: that will just give you fluxbox as another option04:37
_jasonWillyTell: 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and put the contents on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please04:38
NullVector_jason: will these options be a choice at logon?04:38
_jasonNullVector: should be, just press the 'sessions' button04:38
DarkEthosanyone able to lend some help to my dual boot issue with grub?04:38
NullVector_jason: ty04:38
WillyTell_jason, you are telling me that I edit the file sources.list and the end of it I must put that url???04:39
NullVectorcouldn't find package fluxbox04:39
_jasonWillyTell: no, I just want to see what is in it.  Copy and paste what you see to that url and then hit 'send', then give me a link04:39
_jason!info fluxbox04:39
ubotufluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 757 kB, Installed size: 2684 kB04:39
_jasonubotu: tell NullVector about universe04:39
blindxAnyone in here with an iPod?04:39
yota_fan /msg nickserv link <yota_fan> <smokinpoe>04:40
WillyTellok, now I understand.04:40
yota_fanuh... oops :p04:40
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Madpilotyota_fan: might want to change that password really, really quickly ;)04:40
yota_fanhahahaha04:40
yota_fangod damn04:40
blindxnot sure how long..04:40
Kamandaghe he he04:40
blindxi can resist.. these urges..04:40
blindxanyways, does anyone in here have an iPod they use with ubuntu?04:41
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Kamandagblindx, i had experience with ipod on linux (different distro though)04:42
dagersame04:42
blindxWell, I tried a program that wasn't iTunes on windows... and it cleared my db. lost all my songs.04:42
Kamandag$fave_package_manager install gtf-pod04:43
blindxI hope that the same issue doesn't reside with linux?04:43
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Kamandags/gtf/gtk/04:43
dagerblindx: sounds about right.. happened to me, too, even with iTunes04:43
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blindxand out of curiousity, which program did you use?04:43
eugmanHey, seveas didn't you right someonething in the rules about op shouldn04:43
eugmanwhoops04:44
ramza3ubuhow do you restart x windows04:44
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Kamandagdunno if it's gtk-pod but after using it on my installation, nautilus kept on crashing04:44
dagerramza3ubu: ctrl-alt-backspace04:44
Kamandaghad to remove gtk-pod04:44
Kamandag:D04:44
blindxctrl+alt+backspace, ramza3ubu04:44
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WillyTell_jason, this is the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1270504:44
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_jasonWillyTell: ok do this one: cat /etc/apt/sources.list , then pastebin the output04:46
_jason!info kubuntu-desktop hoary04:46
ubotukubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.40 (hoary), Packaged size: 3 kB, Installed size: 32 kB04:46
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yota_fancan someone help me with some install issues?04:46
harisundyota_fan what's your question? :D04:47
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_jasonWillyTell: ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable/main <--bad idea04:47
yota_fanand by install I mean installing packages, not linux....04:47
harisundyota_fan that should be easier to answer... (hopefully)04:47
WillyTellone moment.04:47
Madpilotyota_fan: installing what?04:47
yota_fanwell every time I try to install a package it says Failed to apply all changes04:47
dagerwhat is the error message?04:48
harisundCould you explain which package? And preferrably post the error message somewhere on paste bin for example?04:48
dager"Failed to apply all changes." ? Nothing more?04:48
skplis there anyway to make my menu's transparent in ubuntu?04:48
skpland make them fade in and out, like in windowS?04:48
NullVectorJason: for the fluxbox repository, do I neer to add all the sources from ubuntu-nl.org?04:49
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_jasonNullVector: no, only the official and community maintained (fluxbox is in universe)04:49
WillyTell_jason, follow this link please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1270604:49
yota_fanwell there was a long error in the terminal below it should I posted it on the ubunto forum04:49
yota_fanubuntu04:49
yota_fanhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=944846#post94484604:50
_jasonWillyTell: I need you to do the command I gave you04:50
_jasonWillyTell: cat /etc/apt/sources.list04:50
harisundyota_fan that's really funny. Did you by any chance edit any file?04:51
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WillyTellnow, follow this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1270704:51
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yota_fanhaha I have no clue how to edit any file this is like day 3 with ubuntu04:51
yota_fanor any linux for that matter04:51
eugmanIs there anyway to get a clipboard like feature for my ubuntu? As I understand if you paste it copies from the running programs so the copied information disappears when the program is closed.04:52
stu_is there any reason why ruby1.8 has been removed from the breezy badger universe?04:52
stu_i can't install rails without it -_-04:52
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Madpilotstu_, you sure the package name hasn't just been changed?04:52
blindxtest test test04:52
_jasonubotu: tell WillyTell about easysource04:52
blindxeugman: nah. i just pasted that from gedit that i closed.04:52
_jasonWillyTell: make yourself a new sources.list with official and ocmmunity supported repos, then replace your current one04:53
stu_Madpilot, what to?04:53
eugmanhmmm maybe it's just problems with firefox and me.04:53
arunhello.. i m installing a lib. called quanta from http://www.evl.uic.edu/cavern/quanta/download.php.. shud i go with rpm or source04:54
eugmanHmm . yeah it seems to be limited to coping from firefox...04:54
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WillyTell_jason, where I can find that official supported repositories?04:54
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_jasonWillyTell: check your private messages from ubotu04:54
canllaithHey there - I just upgraded to dapper and I have 'unhandled mime type image/png' in all gnome applications. None of them can load their icons etc. It's only gtk apps that have this problem though, KDE is fine.04:55
canllaithDoes anyone know anything about this issue?04:55
NafaiOn Dapper and have US English selected, why is British spelling still being used, like in the desktop background properties "colour"?04:55
i3dmasterhas anyone experienced BadLength poly request too large or internal Xlib length erro on some of the gnome apps?04:55
blindxLinux.. is like a slinky. great, powerful, fun.. but if you twist it the wrong way, you're fu**ed.04:55
blindxAnd I think by me saying that, we all know that I just ruined my slinky :(04:56
dager..and it goes down stairs magically =)04:56
Madpilotblindx: it's not usually that hard to untwist (unless you bork sudo, it seems like...)04:56
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GTroyhelp!! when I lsusb -vv I can't see my usb wifi04:56
blindxI don't know, I did something real bad lol.04:57
blindxi'm on a reinstall :P04:57
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dagerGTroy: does it detect any devices?04:57
intelikeyhmmm  [lag 64]     looks like i wasting my time trying to irc   while dist-upgrading  hoary to dapper...04:57
dagerit might detect it and call it something else04:57
skplcan someone tell me if there is a way to make my menu's in gnome transparent? or to have them fade in and out like in windows?04:57
TokenBadwhats command for mounting iso file04:57
GTroydager how can I tell?04:57
dagerGTroy.. use pastebin to paste your lsusb04:58
DarkEthosanyone able to lend some help to my dual boot issue with grub?04:58
shadeofgreyi need to know how to change the permissions ogf a folder so that every user can see and use the contents.  in this case - mp3s04:58
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shadeofgrey<shadeofgrey> i rebuilt one of the folders inside as root and now all the other users on the machine cant see or use the contents because they dont have proper permissions04:58
Madpilotskpl: not sure that's possible in Gnome04:58
dagershadeofgrey: 'man chown'04:58
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shadeofgreywhat does that do?04:59
Warboskpl: xcompmgr04:59
dagershadeofgrey: shows you how to solve your problem using chown :)04:59
shadeofgreyi need to type that and the specific folder correct?04:59
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intelikeyTokenBad by the time you get this answer you probably wont want it any more.....   sudo mount file.iso -o loop /mount/point/04:59
Pordosprograms always ask to view my keyring for the password to one of my ssh accounts.  how can i stop this, or just delete that info so they can't access it ever?04:59
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Pordosseriously, it's bizarre.  they are all asking me for my password to username@domain.com for a domain that has nothing to do with them.05:00
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LazyB0ykj05:01
WillyTell_jason, ubotu, I edited the sources.list. Then I am goin to install again the kde from synaptic.05:02
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_jasonWillyTell: run sudo apt-get update first, and I recommend using aptitude, not synaptic05:02
LazyB0yi have a question....i forgot my user and pass anyway to get in05:02
WillyTellok!05:02
GTroydager here's the lsusb http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1270805:02
shadeofgreyhow do i use chmod to allow all users access to a specific directory05:02
_jasonLazyB0y: you forgot both your username and your password?05:02
Dr_Willissingle user mode/rescue mode  and some knowledge.05:03
shadeofgreyi hate using the man pages because they are very indirrect05:03
WarboLazyB0y: Boot into recovery mode. "su username" "passwd newpassword" I think05:03
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Dr_Willisshadeofgrey,  they are 'referance pages' :P not tutorials.05:03
GTroydager I can't get netgear wg111 to work using ndiswrapper since moving from alpha to beta05:03
intelikeyLazyB0y sure there is.05:03
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LazyB0yok i thought i was locked out forever .... installed months ago and then came back and i just dont remeber..one or the other05:04
dagerGTroy: run 'sudo lsusb' and use pastebin.. the "Operation not permitted" errors might be preventing you from seeing it05:04
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WarboLazyB0y: You can add a new user in recovery mode then press ctrl-d to carry on normal bbot up and log in as new user05:05
GTroybus 1-5 empty dager05:05
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dagerthats not good =(05:05
GTroydager I'll replug it05:06
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LazyB0yim a real newd how o get into recovery?  im loading up now05:06
WarboLazyB0y: You should have a recover mode in your boot menu05:06
LazyB0yoh ok gotcha05:06
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LazyB0ythought there was somthing more to it05:06
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intelikeyWarbo better to ls /home  and  passwd <name revieled in the ls command>05:07
GTroydager now it shows05:07
Warbointelikey: Probably05:07
_jasonLazyB0y: after you boot in recovery, first you need to figure out your username: getent passwd 1000 | cut -d : -f 105:07
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dagerGTroy: thats good.. is ndsiwrapper still not working?05:07
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GTroyhold on05:07
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_jasonLazyB0y: then once you know the username, just change the password with: passwd USERNAME05:07
intelikeyWarbo reason i say that,  the first user is already set up for sudo  an added user wont be by default.05:08
LazyB0yok will do05:08
WarboLazyB0y: Do what intelikey said. "ls /home" will give you your username. "passwd yourusername" then give it a new password05:08
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Dr_Willis_jason,  he could just look in the /home/ dir and see what user is there. :P05:08
Warbointelikey: Tell me about it. (I deleted first user and needed recovery mode)05:08
GTroydager!!! it just wasn't plugged in!!!05:08
_jasonLazyB0y: oh that works too, didn't see someone had said that :)05:09
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dagerGTroy: hehe =P05:09
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GTroythanks dager05:09
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WarboYou know I have a Synaptic window flashing in my taskbar for the past hour? initramfs-tools is screwed (and nobody in #ubuntu+1 has any idea why)05:09
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intelikeywell _jason is right in not assuming default home dir.... that is veriable,  one could have a home dir not in /home  or not by their user name....05:10
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_jasonand he could also have deleted his first user so we are both making assumptions05:10
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intelikeyDr_Willis i've done it.05:11
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WarboDr_Willis: I had a username "f*** you bill gates" in a Windows 98 in QEmu once. I forgot that05:12
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Dr_WillisWarbo,  you are just sick.05:12
intelikeyif you have accounts one more than 12 boxes and not all the same user name.... it can get confusing05:12
Pordoshow do i delete a value from my key ring?05:12
dageri just always use username "user" :(05:12
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WarboDr_Willis: I know. Windows 98, what was I thinking?05:12
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Pordosmultiple programs always ask me for a password to an ssh account in my keyring.05:12
Pordosthat has nothing to do with them.05:12
Pordosi don't even know why they ask05:12
invisage01heya! dapper flight 6.. have there been known problems with the ISO's at the moment?05:13
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perceptualchaoshi can someone please tell me how I can uninstall Java? When I type java -version at the command line I get:05:13
perceptualchaosjava version "1.4.2"05:13
perceptualchaosgij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)05:13
_jasonubotu: tell perceptualchaos about javadebs05:14
perceptualchaosI tried to uninstall it from the synaptic package manager05:14
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_jasonperceptualchaos: oh /uninstall/, ignore what I sent you05:14
perceptualchaosI'm trying to install matlab on ubuntu 6405:14
perceptualchaosbut it comes with its own java version05:14
_jasonwhy do you need to uninstall java for that?05:15
swajanybody know how to get mp3 support working for rhythmbox?  I installed gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse, but it didnt' work :/05:15
_jason!matlab05:15
perceptualchaosso I want to uninstall the old version05:15
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _jason05:15
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_jasonubotu: matlab is <reply> For information on installing matlab, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MATLAB05:15
ubotu_jason: okay05:15
GTroyI can't install any irc programs....I get application might not support your hardware05:16
Pordosswaj you need to look at the restricted formats page i think.05:16
_jasonperceptualchaos: you shouldn't need to remove it, you can have more than one version of java.  You may want to take a look at the link I just pasted to the wiki05:16
dagerGTroy.. what programs did you try?05:16
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Pordoshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:16
GTroysynaptic, and add remove programs05:16
dagerGTroy.. i mean, which irc programs05:17
perceptualchaos_jason: thanks I'll have a play05:17
GTroykonversaion and xchat05:17
Pordosswaj http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-play-restricted-formats-with-ubuntu-multimedia-codecs05:17
dagertry irssi or bitchx05:17
GTroyare konversation and xchat not supported?05:17
intelikeyGTroy kewl !   that's a nice error.05:17
intelikeykirc ?05:17
skplhas anyone here succesfully added a splash image to their grub boot loader?05:17
dageri guess not.. ive never gotten that before, but irssi and bitchx are both pretty simple terminal-based apps05:17
GTroyintelikey cool?  how?05:18
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WillyTell_jason, ubotu: are you there?05:18
_jasonWillyTell: ubotu is a bot05:18
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intelikeyjust never seen that error message before GTroy   :)05:19
GTroy:P05:19
GTroyintelikey ok05:19
HellDragonhtml is OOP ?05:19
WillyTell_jason, ups!, well, finally I am downloading kubuntu-desktop05:20
_jasonWillyTell: great05:20
intelikeyGTroy i doubt that the error message is realy relevent to the issue tho.   irc apps  don't really support any hardware afik05:20
WillyTell_jason, it is possible only with your help! thank you very much.05:20
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_jasonWillyTell: np05:21
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GTroyintelikey: add remove programs couldn't access the internet05:21
GTroys' why05:21
WillyTell_jason, I learn today how to use pastebin and how I must update the souces.list.05:21
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intelikeythere ya go GTroy05:22
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intelikeyoh i'm still lagging about 30 seconds here.05:23
CrocoJetone question05:23
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CrocoJetthe canonical companie allow that some persons to sell CDS UBUNTU at fisl events ?05:24
Dr_WillisI belive thats more of a GPL issue isent it?   I dont see why you couldent sell them.05:25
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intelikeyCrocoGator it's not unlawful to sell free software.  no.05:25
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CrocoJetofficial cds ?05:26
Dr_WillisYou are burning official cd's? from the official .isos?05:26
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intelikeyread all about it in the gnu-gpl05:26
CrocoJetcds release from canonical05:27
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CrocoJetis legal or not ?05:27
catskulanyone notice new fonts in firefox after the last dapper update ?05:27
_jasoncatskul: #ubuntu+1 for dapper05:27
catskulthanks05:27
intelikeyDr_Willis you know the ones with trick uniforms and badges  :)05:28
MadpilotCrocoJet, you can sell the CDs, yes05:28
Dr_Willisintelikey,  "The Official Disrtobution of the 2008 Olypics!"05:28
CrocoJetok05:28
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CrocoJetI am not going to sell .. only question .. :)05:29
intelikeyDr_Willis mmm yeah  that too05:29
intelikeysure......05:29
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jinho326hello- I installed xubuntu and for some reason whenever I restart or shut down, the GUI login doesnt show up- the screen is blank, the keyboard doesnt respond, but oddly the mouse is on- so I always have to boot up and do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:30
jinho326Does anyone know a way to solve this problem- or have experience w/ this?05:30
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perceptualchaosis there a way to get the ubuntu terminal to display all commands starting with what you've already typed in?05:31
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eggzeckperceptualchaos, yes, tab05:31
Dr_Willisperceptualchaos,  foo<tab>05:31
Dr_Willisbash completion - :P05:31
eggzeckhit it twice though05:31
perceptualchaosI thought that displays the possible things you can type?05:32
perceptualchaosnot the things you have typed in the past?05:32
eggzeckwhihc are the possible commands05:32
bjvspeaking of bash completion, i hit oowr<tab>   the other day to find that open office isnt on my machine any more05:32
jinho326anyone...?05:32
Dr_Willisperceptualchaos,  you are refering to the bash history command then.05:32
perceptualchaosok05:32
bjvupgrade to dapper do that to me?05:32
perceptualchaoshow do you do that?05:32
Dr_Willisperceptualchaos,  theres some amazing features of bash and things it can do. :P05:32
_jasonbjv: yeah, did it to me too.  Join #ubuntu+1 for dapper05:33
jinho326bjv: were you addressing me or someone else?05:33
Dr_Willisperceptualchaos,  try 'history' then for exapple !30 will rerun histrory item #30 (i think)05:33
intelikeyperceptualchaos it does display the possable commands.  log out and back in then   tac ~/.bash_history05:33
Dr_WillisThat Oriially book on "Using Bash" is  so handy. I learned so much from it. Lol.05:33
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intelikeyperceptualchaos the up arrow key is handy,   you can scrool the history.05:35
perceptualchaoswhat I want to do is say type "umount" then press a key which will let me scroll through all commands in the history that begin with the string "umount"05:35
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_jasonperceptualchaos: ctrl-r05:35
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intelikeyhistory | grep umount05:36
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perceptualchaosintelikey: thats probably close enough05:37
perceptualchaos:)05:37
perceptualchaosthanks05:37
grigorahi, I had my laptop on suspend, I brought it back but the sound does not work05:37
grigoracould someone tell me how to bring it back? thanks05:38
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perceptualchaosit'd be nice if it did autocomplete sort of thing but thats probably asking too much05:38
seamus-laptopgrigora: have you tried restarting alsa? or killing esd and starting it back up?05:38
grigoraseamus-laptop: I tried restarting alsa, haven't tried esd yet05:39
_jasonperceptualchaos: umm did you try ctrl-r?05:39
intelikeyperceptualchaos if you need only the command  you can "cut" the unwanted part.    history | grep man | cut -b8-05:39
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intelikey_jason i tried it,  does bash_completion need to be loaded for that to work ?05:40
perceptualchaos_jason: I want it to display the commands I have typed in the past, not commands I could possibly type05:40
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perceptualchaosit didn't work05:40
grigoraseamus-laptop: I killed esd, but now can't start it - connect failed: /tmp/alsa-dmix-10176-1145653508-416773: No such file or directory05:40
_jasonctrl-r searches history, press ctrl-r and then type something like 'umount'05:41
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intelikey^R doesn't seem very useful to me.05:41
_jasonintelikey: how come?05:41
perceptualchaosah05:42
itrebalso if i have an issue with an ubuntu package (ie: it doesn't work) what should i do?05:42
perceptualchaosI see how it works now05:42
_jasonpressing ctrl-r again cycles matches05:42
intelikeyi think it breaks at white space _jason05:42
perceptualchaosthanks _jason05:42
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eggzeckitrebal, depends on the problem.05:42
_jasonintelikey: ever since I setup vi keybindings it seems to be a bit buggy I have to admit05:42
grigoraanyone knows what could cause my laptop sound to disappear after a suspend? and how to bring it back. I have tried restarting alsa, still no go. thanks05:42
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intelikeybecause i have ran several man blah commands  and  ^R man  says man    not very useful05:42
seamus-laptopgrigora: interesting problem, let me investigate that05:43
itrebaleggzeck: it doesn't run properly, i'm downloading the source to compile05:43
seamus-laptopgrigora: what type of laptop do you h ave?05:43
grigoraIBM T43 thinkpad05:44
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perceptualchaos_jason do you know if you can get it to search only for terms which begin with your search string?05:44
_jasonperceptualchaos: don't know05:44
seamus-laptopgrigora: what version are you running? dapper, breezy?05:44
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tonyyarussogrigora: Heh, at least you can suspend.  Crossing my fingers for Dapper (same model actually.)05:44
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perceptualchaoswhat program is it invoking when you press ^r?05:45
perceptualchaosmaybe the man page will have something05:45
UKMatthey I have a question for someone about amarok05:45
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intelikeyah yeah _jason i see what you are saying... it works kinda like a grep history + up-arrow   i guess that would be useful if you never cleared you history....   but on a history file less than 100 lines  it's pretty useless,  i can get there quicker with the arrow keys.05:46
UKMattI have all my music saved on an external hard drive (b/c don't wanna save it on both windows and ubuntu side), and I want to be able to make a music library (hopefully in amarok, or another program that lets me) that can use it directly from the external hd05:47
_jasonperceptualchaos: I don't know, I think it's referred to as recursive something or other... maybe man bash's history section05:47
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tonyyarussoI'm having issues running cp on some stuff from a CD-ROM, gettingthis: '[4386574242]  B I/O       299421'05:47
tonyyarussoAarg, that 's not right.05:47
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intelikeyperceptualchaos man bash   prolly knows    all the ^key macros are bash something or other.05:47
tonyyarusso[4386709.791000]  Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 29944405:48
tonyyarussoThere05:48
rnd_nullIs there a way to make my home computer into an email provider?05:48
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_jasonintelikey: my favorite is doing 'sudo !!' after forgetting to sudo something05:48
UKMattdoes anyone have an idea for me?05:48
kingspawnrnd_null: indeed there is05:48
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najiUKMatt > just create a playlist with relative URIs05:48
rnd_nullkingspawn, ok...can i do it at no cost?05:48
kingspawnrnd_null: you need to set up a server, like sendmail/postfix05:49
kingspawnrnd_null: of course :)05:49
rnd_nullkingspawn, and it will be accessible from anywhere....pop3?05:49
kingspawnrnd_null: but at no cost your email might be something like "rnd_null@165.123.12.123"05:49
rnd_nullo05:49
kingspawnrnd_null: it will05:49
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tonyyarussoHow can I force an unmount of a CD-ROM device that is busy?05:49
rnd_nullkingspawn, where can i get a cheap domain name from?05:50
najirnd_null > you can use DNS ( no-ip.info )05:50
jetscreamermount -L or something, man mount05:50
itrebalpush a paper-clip in the hole on the front of the drive05:50
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jetscreameralso try lsof and see what's still accessing the cdrom05:50
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jetscreamerlsof |grep -i cd or somelthing05:50
rnd_nullkingspawn, ok, so i really really want to do this, but i have no idea where to even start05:50
itrebalrnd_null: i use godaddy.com05:50
kingspawnrnd_null: if you have an isp that doesnt really change your ip you can get free stuff05:50
perceptualchaos_jason: does the second ! -> the first command in the history?05:50
intelikeytonyyarusso stick a paper clip in the little hole up front ?05:50
kingspawnrnd_null: www.dyndns.org05:51
jetscreamerthe paper clip is a last resort05:51
_jasonperceptualchaos: yeah05:51
kingspawnrnd_null: or .com05:51
perceptualchaosthats cool05:51
tonyyarussointelikey: What little hole?05:51
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jetscreamertry man mount05:51
kingspawnrnd_null: theyll give you something along the lines of rnd_null.ath.cx05:51
_jasonperceptualchaos: ctrl-r is 'reverse incremental search' it seems05:51
itrebaltonyyarusso: if you look closely at the front of a cd drive, theres a little hole, you put a paper clip in there, and it forces a hardware-based eject05:51
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rnd_nullkingspawn, do you know of any "walkthroughs" for setting up an email server?05:52
tonyyarussoitrebal: On a laptop?05:52
intelikeythey may not have those any more tonyyarusso     but if  sudo eject cant do it you will have to kill what ever is using it.05:52
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itrebaltonyyarusso: usually on every one05:52
itrebali've never seen one without05:52
perceptualchaosyeah I'm looking at the man page for bash now05:52
jetscreamererr make that man umount sorry05:52
_jasonperceptualchaos: this page has some really nice tips: http://www.ukuug.org/events/linux2003/papers/bash_tips/05:53
perceptualchaosthere's ^s for forward searching as well05:53
tonyyarussointelikey: It should be cp using it.05:53
skplis it possible to play .m4a files in ubuntu?05:53
kingspawnrnd_null: http://www.marcelgagne.com/Linux_mail_server.html    --- google is always your friend05:53
jetscreamerman umount will tell you05:53
kingspawnrnd_null: just come back here if there are questions05:53
jetscreameri won't05:53
itrebalrnd_null: alot of ISPs these days block port 25 for mail servers05:53
UKMatthey what other music players do you guys use?05:53
tonyyarussointelikey, itrebal: never mind, it stopped.05:53
intelikeytonyyarusso sudo killall cp && sudo eject05:53
MadpilotUKMatt, Muine05:54
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jetscreamerskpl: you'll probably need w32codecs05:54
arunhey.. can anyone help me with my problems with installing libjpeg(http://www.ijg.org/) in ubuntu05:54
blindxanyway to get text functionality in photoshop (running through wine)05:54
jetscreamer!tell skpl -about w32codecs05:54
jetscreamergimp not good enough for you eh05:55
GTroy_uhmm how do I change screen resolutions on a dual head?05:55
blindxnot at all.05:55
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blindxit doesn't act the same..05:55
GTroy_one screen is fine, but the second is not right05:55
jetscreamer!find libjpeg05:55
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'libjpeg' (5 shown): libjpeg-mmx-dev ;; libjpeg-mmx-progs ;; libjpeg-progs ;; libjpeg62 ;; libjpeg62-dev.05:55
GTroy_!screen resolution05:55
ubotuGTroy_: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:55
intelikeytonyyarusso it can be really frustrating when software over rides hardware....05:55
blindx!fixres05:55
ubotuI guess fixres is Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:55
GTroy_blindx: thanks05:55
perceptualchaos_jason: what's the meta-key?05:55
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blindxno prob05:55
_jasonperceptualchaos: usually ALT05:55
jetscreamerlike the windows key05:55
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perceptualchaosoh05:56
jetscreamernever man'd umount eh05:56
perceptualchaoswhich one?05:56
Taa5iHello.  I am looking for a way to install Ubuntu onto a laptop without a CD-Rom drive, is this feasible please?05:56
_jasonperceptualchaos: both probably05:56
perceptualchaosI have a left one and a right one05:56
perceptualchaosah05:56
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intelikeys/pull blug/eject battery/ <laptop version>05:57
KatteKrabI'm using evolution, gnome, dapper drake - and I can't figure out how to access the keyboard shortcuts indicated with underlines... anyone able to give me a clue?05:57
perceptualchaosthere's a lot of bash shortcuts!05:57
perceptualchaos:)05:57
blindxintelikey, you're not going to get a cd from an unplugged computer. :P05:57
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intelikeyblug ?05:57
harisundPeople, can X forward happen through telnet? Or do we only need SSH to do it?05:57
intelikeyblindx can as soon as you plug it back up05:57
Major_DeltaTaa5i: http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html05:58
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jetscreamerssh05:58
jetscreamertelnet would be silly05:58
blindxanyway to get text functionality in photoshop (running through wine).. gives me the error that there's no system font detected. :\05:58
intelikeyharisund i don't think i'd use telnet if it does support it.....05:58
KatteKrabubotu I'm using evolution, gnome, dapper drake - and I can't figure out how to access the keyboard shortcuts indicated with underlines... anyone able to give me a clue?05:59
ubotuKatteKrab: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about05:59
harisundintelikey: well.. I believe it would be faster since there is no encryption.. this is a local network and I am not worried about security.05:59
KatteKrabubotu keyboard shortcuts05:59
ubotuI heard keyboard shortcuts is modifiable at System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts, or at http://www.gnome.org/learn/access-guide/2.10/ch03.html#keynav-205:59
harisundFor me, generally FTP is faster than SSH for file transfer. I know I know, security and all that yadda yadda.. but still.05:59
jbroomeMmm, plain test passwords are awesome06:00
jbroome*text06:00
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intelikeyharisund i'm with ya.....   but idk if telnet supports it or not.06:00
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leetcharmerhihi all :D06:00
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leetcharmerhow's it goin'?06:00
harisundintelikey: Well I guess not .. that's fine though .. just curious to know..06:00
Major_Deltahey there, is there a way to get torrents to transfer files point to point, instead of ftp06:00
Taa5iMajor_Delta: Thank you, looking into that now.06:01
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leetcharmershould I go here if I want to talk about Ubuntu Dapper Beta?06:01
leetcharmerI think I'm full o' bugs06:01
jbroomeleetcharmer: ubuntu+106:01
jbroomeleetcharmer: #ubuntu+106:01
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intelikeyhmmm kinda like setting     echo "<my password>" > /etc/issue.net06:01
aruni m having problems with installing libjpeg.. http://www.ijg.org/ .. even after i configure,make and makeinstall... i still get an error libjpeg.h is missing when i make another package that uses libjpeg..06:02
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aruncan someone help me with this problem06:02
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_jasonarun: that is in the repositories, no need to compile06:02
intelikeyso what all will happen when this  hoary to dapper   apt-get dist-upgrade     go's off ?06:03
intelikeybox go boom ?06:03
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darksoul_i dont want to find out.. i find a fresh install is best06:03
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hyphenatedI wouldn't recommend jumping two releases in one hit. it might work, but it doesn't sound like a good idea06:03
_jasonintelikey: yeah my breezy > almost did, good luck06:04
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najiwe don't care, as long as the good packages are succesfully installed06:04
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darksoul_anyone have problems upgrading before06:04
arun_jason, oh.. ok.. but i get an error message saying that jpeglib.h is missing..06:04
_jasonarun: install libjpeg62 and libjpeg62-dev probably, but what are you trying to do?06:04
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_jason!find libjpeg06:05
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'libjpeg' (5 shown): libjpeg-mmx-dev ;; libjpeg-mmx-progs ;; libjpeg-progs ;; libjpeg62 ;; libjpeg62-dev.06:05
PwcrLinuxWho called? I noticed my xchat flashing06:05
intelikeydid a fresh server install of hoary    removed  ubuntu-base  and  started a dist-upgrade..... we'll see.06:05
arun_jason, i m installing a package called sage.. http://www.evl.uic.edu/cavern/sage/download.php06:05
darksoul_have problem have problems upgrading before?06:05
skplcan someone tell me what a good place to install mozilla firefox is?06:06
darksoul_can anyone hear me at all06:06
najiskpl > /opt06:06
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skplwhy that?06:06
_jasonarun: k, see if yhose packages resolve the problem06:06
skplwhat does opt stand for?06:06
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intelikey!ff1.506:06
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:06
__Michel__boi06:07
najidunno, but I always use it to compile my software06:07
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PwcrLinuxcya06:08
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blindxYES!! I got text functionality in Photoshop running through wine. :DD06:08
arrickHey has anyone seen IdleOne on here lately, I know they were moving, but its been about a week now06:08
intelikeywith 18k packages in the repos    everyone wants to compile.......     use gentoo  if you like to compile that well.06:08
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HellDragonok IcemanV906:09
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Madpilot!seen IdleOne06:09
perceptualchaosdo you know where .bashrc is located?06:09
_jasonperceptualchaos: ~06:09
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HellDragon!quote _jason06:10
najiblindx > CVS version ?06:10
HellDragonwow06:10
ubotui couldn't get the quote for _jason. sorry. :(06:10
blindxnaji: of what?06:10
najiWine06:10
HellDragonU bug tu..06:10
blindxuh. i don't know, tell ya the truth. im new to all this :x06:10
blindxI got it through apt-get if that tells you anything :x06:10
catskulwhats up with baltix... ?   why not just have a language pack for ubuntu ?06:11
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samirsalam06:11
catskulsalam06:11
perceptualchaos_jason: its not in my base dir :?06:11
samirca va bien ?06:11
catskulyes06:12
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HellDragonon parle pas fr ici06:12
_jasonperceptualchaos: should be ~/.bashrc, if you don't have one, just create it06:12
Madpilot!fr06:12
HellDragonva sur #ubuntufr06:12
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:12
_jason!fr06:12
najisamir > if you speak french, please join #ubuntu-fr06:12
HellDragon#uvuntu-fr06:12
HellDragon#ubuntu-fr06:12
samiryes i speek06:12
zOrKspeak06:12
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najisamir > je m'emmerde un peu sur #ubuntu-fr donc tu peux y aller06:12
zOrKcomo anda le vu?06:12
HellDragonmerde alors06:12
HellDragonwth ork06:12
HellDragonzork*06:12
HellDragon:)06:13
blindxvoulez-vous coucher avec moi? (ha couldn't resist)06:13
perceptualchaos_jason: oh there we go06:13
_jasonzOrK: /join #ubuntu-fr06:13
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zOrKJust kidding, I dont know how to speak FR06:13
blindxlol06:13
zOrKI wish06:13
blindxI wanna speak a language that like 1/1000 people know.06:13
blindxlike latin.06:14
zOrKlatin is the father of all the languages06:14
Madpilot!offtopic06:14
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!06:14
blindxI'd go with klingon, but ....06:14
zOrKSo, If you learn latin, you'll probably learn any language :P06:14
blindxsorry madpilot :[06:14
zOrKBut is a hard one06:14
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intelikeyhmmm thought i was the only one that "speeked"  ?06:15
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blindxthat would be "spoked" duh06:15
Dr_Willisspok-ed06:16
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skplcan someone tell em why i am getting this error? bash: firefox: command not found06:16
skpl06:16
skpli installed it to /opt/firefox06:16
zeebleadd /opt/ to your path variable.06:16
Dr_Willisits not in your path06:16
Dr_Willisor make a launcher that has the full total path to it.06:17
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perceptualchaosdamn, adding "PROMPT_COMMAND='history -a' " didn't work06:17
intelikeycause /opt is not in your path06:17
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najiskpl > you have to run it with '/opt/firefox/firefox'06:17
GTroy!mount06:17
ubotuI guess mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f06:17
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intelikeyecho $PATH06:17
perceptualchaosI appended it to .bashrc and thought that would save my commands to the history one at a time06:17
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najiI'd say : "echo '; /opt/firefox' >> $ PATH06:18
perceptualchaosrather than on terminal exit06:18
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perceptualchaos_jason: have you successfully made that modification?06:18
freakabcdn06:18
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skpli just installed the latest version of firefox however when i run /opt/firefox i get version 1.5.0.106:18
skplanyone know why?06:18
blindxso wait. how would one go about making "wine etc etc etc../Program\ Files/Adobe/Photoshop\ 7.0/Photoshop.exe" a command.. say "Photoshop"? (so i could just alt+f2, photoshop, and it loads)06:18
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Dr_Willismake a script that runs the full command.06:19
blindxwhere would i put said script? :\06:19
Dr_Williswhever ya wanted06:19
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intelikeyperceptualchaos no it would have to be a function  not a veriable,,, that would only get set at login.     try something like     function blah { export PROMPT_COMMAND=`history -a` }06:19
_jasonperceptualchaos: no I didn't, but you need to source ~/.bashrc after changing it06:19
Dr_Willis home/bin normally06:19
blindxhow would i incorporate it?06:19
KatteKrabuboto keyboard accessibility] 06:19
Dr_Willismake it executable and run it :P06:19
Dr_Willislike ya do any other command06:19
KatteKrabuboto keyboard accessibility06:19
blindxi don't want to type /path/to/executable06:20
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blindxi wanna just type "photoshop"06:20
intelikeyhome/bin ?    $HOME/bin/06:20
paxwhy don't you just use an alias?06:21
slavikblindx: look up "symbolic link"06:21
slavikor alias06:21
najiblindx > just create a shell script which contains "/path/to/executable"06:21
OompaI was messing with sessions and entered something wrong..06:21
OompaI entered something wrong and can't delete it. the button is deactivated06:21
Oompahow do I sudo it?06:21
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slavikOompa: what did you enter?06:22
Oompagnome-window-decorator (must be on top, start first)06:22
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slavikhmm ...06:22
intelikeyblindx   echo $PATH      that is where bash searches for executable.     you can change that by adding     export PATH="$PATH:<new_added/path>"    to your  ~/.bashrc06:22
OompaAnd yes I know I should ask elsewhere but so one is replying.06:22
slavikOompa: try also asking in gnome06:22
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slaviknot ask elsewhere ...06:23
slavikOompa: you ask in 20 places, more chances for answer ;)06:23
Oompa:P06:23
slavikbut I dunno how to fix your error, sorry :(06:23
lgcOompa, are you familar with OOMPAA?06:23
vijayhi all, i have a problem with telugu font in firefox can any body help me?06:23
slaviklgc: OO MPAA?06:23
OompaI know OO06:24
najivijay > what king of problem ?06:24
Oompaand I know of the MPAA06:24
OompaI code in OOP and I hate the MPAA06:24
slavikrofl06:24
najis/king/kind06:24
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vijaynaji: it is displaying boxes in between the letters06:24
skplcan someone tell me if this means i have a packet sniffer on my computer? <skpl> does this mean i have a packet sniffer on my computer? Checking `sniffer'... lo: not promisc and no packet sniffer sockets06:24
skpl<skpl> eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient3[5774] )06:25
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lgcOompa: OOMPAA. Object-Oriented Model for Probing Assemblages of Atoms. I've been chasing the author, to no avail. I thought you just might be related to this...06:25
najivijay: is it your website that you are trying to visit ?06:25
najivijay: try to change the charset06:25
vijaynaji: ok06:25
Oompaha06:26
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OompaThink about willy wonka.06:26
Oompa:P06:26
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slavikoompa lumpa!!!06:26
slavikwee man!!!06:26
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naji!google willy wonka06:26
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, naji06:26
go1dfishResults for willy wonka on Google:06:26
go1dfishhttp://chocolatefactorymovie.warnerbros.com/06:26
go1dfishhttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067992/06:26
go1dfishhttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367594/06:26
go1dfish--06:26
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zeeblevijay: do you have telugu fonts installed? like gautami, or something like that?06:26
OompaLoompa.06:26
OompaI am not lumpy.06:26
lamonterhello06:26
Oompathanks though.06:26
Madpilot!tell goldfish about pastebin06:26
Oompa:P06:26
zeeblelamonter: hello.06:26
slavikrofl06:26
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lamonterI don speak english06:26
slavikMadpilot: go1dfish is a googlebot06:27
zeeblelamonter: which language then?06:27
slaviklamonter: espanol?06:27
intelikeyskpl  from chkrootkit ?      looks ok to me.06:27
slaviklamonter: russki?06:27
lamonteryes espaol06:27
najiMadpilot > i think you haven't many chances to communicate to a bot06:27
Madpilotslavik, who owns it?06:27
slavikahh06:27
slavik!es06:27
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:27
vijayzeeble: yes ubuntu have those fonts defaultly06:27
slavikMadpilot: no clue06:27
najilamonter > franais ?06:27
Oompahey.. I'm having a problem with sessions. I entered something wrong, and now I can't delete it. the button is deactivated.06:27
skplintelikey, why would it say that then?06:27
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sunrexhow do i install my ati driver on dapper beta... its saying my X version does not have a matching 'x700_64a' directory06:27
zeeblevijay: maybe you just need to change the encoding them06:27
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lgcOompa, you're risking your right to stay here if you play with words here...:)06:28
slaviksunrex: try seeking help in #ubuntu+106:28
vijayzeeble: changed to utf 8, but no effect06:28
slavikMadpilot: please don't ban the bot06:28
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zeeblevijay: too bad.06:28
zeeblevijay: what site is it?06:28
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slavikaww :(06:28
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Madpilotslavik, we've got bot, and it doesn't flood.06:28
slavikthe channel should have a googlebot and a wikibot06:28
slavik!flood06:28
ubotuflood is, like, totally, for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.06:28
vijayzeeble: http://te.wikipedia.org06:29
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zeeblevijay: thanks06:29
perceptualchaosha06:29
perceptualchaos"like, totally"06:29
perceptualchaoshttp://themightyowl.com/perceptualchaos/dontsaylikeWeb.jpg06:29
aliwhat tool i have to use to configure my soundcard06:29
zeeblevijay: i see what you mean. some fonts display.. others are in boxes.06:29
intelikeysays not permisc  and  no sockets    so that means if  dhclient was running it's still nothing to concern your self over....  man chkrootkit06:30
vijayzeeble: yes06:30
cyphaseis there some kind of pastebin standard i don't know about?06:31
intelikeyskpl if it finds something   it really gets your attention....   you'll know it found a 'definkelty'06:31
cyphasefor posting from apps06:31
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skplah ok06:31
vijayzeeble: somewhere i read that to remove libpango* from firefox installation directory, but i am unable to find those files06:31
skpldoes anyone know where ic an get help for flashplayer?06:31
carbois there any video editing software that will work with Windows Movie Maker files?06:31
slavikcyphase: pastebin can also hold screenshots ... or you can use imageshack.us06:31
Madpilotcyphase, if it's more than two lines (or you're not sure how long it's going to be) then pastebin it06:31
cyphaseuuh..06:31
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intelikeywhat time do they update the repos' servers'   anyone ?06:32
cyphasei mean some kind of web services protocol for pasting to pastebins from an app06:32
slavikcyphase: there is06:32
slavikcheck the ubuntu pastebin page06:33
slavikthey have a link to a program there or something06:33
CaminomasterHere is 11:30= BYE06:33
cyphaseslavik, i know, webboard06:33
Madpilotcyphase, there is for Gnome - I've never bothered with it, though: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126906:33
cyphasei have it installed06:33
zeeblevijay: http://te.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Configuring_on_Linux   <-- check that out06:33
cyphasei know programs exist..06:33
cyphasebut is there some kind of defacto protocol06:33
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cyphaseusing REST or XMLRPC or something06:33
zeeblevijay: i just looked at the regional language page for my state in wikipedia... and it works somehow :)06:34
Madpilotcyphase, no idea06:34
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slavikcyphase: no clue, sorry06:35
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cyphaseok06:35
djs_2_6Hello all.  I know this is off topic, but I was wondering: Does anyone here know of any channels where server grade hardware is discussed?06:35
vijayzeeble: yes, every regional language is working fine, just there is problem with telugu06:35
intelikeySTAFF    what tod (time of day) are the repos updated ?   i'll stop the dl for that just in case.06:35
cyphasei'm just asking because webboard uses pastebin.com by default06:35
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pvd2006I am having a problem with media.putfile.com. I can't get it to play the media file, but it opens up the windows media plugin and plays the audio, not the video. I am not sure what codec is required to do this. I06:35
zeeblevijay: hm. not sure then.06:35
slavikcyphase: why don't you write a standard?06:36
Madpilotintelikey, you might want to ask about repos updating in #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-motu06:36
cyphaseslavik, that's why i'm asking :)06:36
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intelikeyMadpilot k     you don't know ?06:37
Madpilotintelikey, nope06:37
chmod775!bot06:37
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots. wonderful06:37
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varsendaggerwow ubuntu is quiet06:42
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slaviknetsplit06:43
^^angustaeveryone is off reading about newts....06:43
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slavikyup06:43
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enoquestion: apache2 service is not running but it is still in 'ls /etc/init.d/'.  Why?06:44
Madpilotgetting newtered?06:44
intelikeywhat's newts ?06:44
^^angustagetting eft'ed06:44
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Madpilotall eft'd up :P06:44
intelikeyand no i'm not gonna go read about it06:44
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Madpilotintelikey, next version of Ubuntu will be "Edgy Eft" - an eft is a young newt, apparently06:44
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varsendaggerwhat is a osx style icon launcher that i can use in fluxbox or enlightenment?06:45
^^angustaan edgy one?06:45
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hajuuHey guys, anyone able to tell me whats the default startup file?06:45
VR_varsendagger: i think that's a gdesklet06:46
VR_!gdesklets06:46
ubotugdesklets is probably gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/06:46
intelikeyeno the scripts in /etc/init.d   are only called buy the symlinks in  /etc/rc?.d/    the script is not removed unless the app is removed,   maybe not then.  eno06:46
varsendaggerVR_, no it's soemthing else06:46
varsendaggeri know gdesklets would work too06:46
enointelikey: informative, thx06:47
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hajuuHey guys, anyone able to tell me whats the default startup file?06:47
hajuuand also06:47
VR_varsendagger: http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_type=2&screen_id=10864110564330704902176&m=screen06:47
hajuuhow to turn on timestamps in xchat in the chat window?06:47
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mDotwhen i do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and switch from nv to nvidia, i am unable to use my monitors 1440x900 resolution. however, using the generic nv drivers the resolution works perfectly, any ideas?06:48
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intelikeyeno you can use the scripts in the init.d  dirrectly   but the system only uses them via the symlinks.06:48
Madpilothajuu, for timestamps, go Settings->Preferences, Text Box section, bottom is Time Stamps06:48
pvd2006what is the package for mozilla dev?06:48
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hajuuoh sweet. thanks Madpilot06:48
slaterocki just did a dist-upgrade to dapper beta, and my desktop is running sooo o fast06:49
pvd2006i tried sudo apt-get install mozilla-dev06:49
hajuuany idea about the start up file? like the one that tries to syncronise my clock with the timeserver?06:49
intelikeymDot ahhh  why not use the  nv driver then ?06:49
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hajuuit keeps dialing my dialup connection on startup... its costing me money :(06:49
slavikyeah, I want to get rid of that, too06:49
mDotintelikey no 3d support06:49
enoVR_: what is that screen shot of?06:49
mDotintelikey and its very much slower06:50
intelikeymDot oh.06:50
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intelikeyhajuu see what i told eno ^   that is all about the "startup files"06:50
pvd2006im confused. mplayerplugin install instructions say I need mozilla-dev package to compile mplayerplugin code but Im not using mozilla I am using firefox.06:51
pvd2006I have firefox-dev installed06:51
varsendaggerpvd2006, mozilla is firefox06:51
Installer36In Gnome how do I change the apperance of my terminal?06:51
intelikey<reposted for hajuu> the scripts in /etc/init.d   are only called buy the symlinks in  /etc/rc?.d/    the script is not removed unless the app is removed,   maybe not then.06:51
slavikvarsendagger: correction, firefox is mozilla ;)06:51
pvd2006varsendagger, you mean the people who make mozilla make firefox right?06:51
hajuuoh yeah init.d06:52
hajuuthanks intelikey06:52
slavikpvd2006: correct06:52
pvd2006ok06:52
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tescoilwhat's the easy way to set a new drive to automount at boottime?06:52
pvd2006so it should work then06:52
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MadpilotInstaller36, depends what you want to do with it - try Edit->Current Profile for some options06:52
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Eleafyikes06:53
Installer36Madpilot that was what I was looking for ..ThankYou06:53
hajuuthink I need to get the latest nvidia drivers already.. my video is getting pwnzed lol06:53
pvd2006ah, see its going to download mozilla browser as well besides the dev package. Oh well.06:53
paxwhat do we use for .rar archives that handles 3.0 format?06:53
slaterockalright, dapper has officially replaced windows on my laptop06:53
Eleafto install azureus, I have to install libswt-java.  And that depends on mozilla?  That's lame... O.O06:53
EleafAny way to get azureus installed without having to install other browsers..?06:53
intelikeytescoil put it in /etc/fstab      easy way for me is edit the file as root.   but you may need help with that... idk     man fstab06:53
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pvd2006Eleaf: Azureus is way too cpu/memory intensive and slow I think. Do you want to use Azureus over other torrent client programs?06:54
paxEleaf: how about opera?06:54
slaterockalright, the only issue i hav06:54
Jmaxhi06:54
slaterocke06:54
Eleafpvd2006, I suppose I could try some other torrent programs, what would you reccomend?06:54
intelikeypvd2006 i hope they fixed the bug in the post.install script for mozilla-browser....06:54
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tescoilintelikey -- okay, that's the old-fashioned way.  I was just checking if they'd put in some fancy-ass GUI thing to do it :)06:55
slaterockis i get these little white specks that randomly appear on my screen06:55
slaterock??06:55
JmaxEleaf: what are your needs as far as featrures go?  Transmission is nice06:55
slaterockany one got any ideas?06:55
JmaxEleaf: but does little more than download06:55
Dr_WillisStart using a Dandruff Shampoo?06:55
intelikeypvd2006 tell me if it errors please.06:55
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hajuuhahah06:55
bjvi use enhanced ctorrent06:55
slaterocklolhaha06:55
slavikslaterock: is your video card overclocked?06:55
hajuudandruff06:55
slaterockslavik, no06:55
bjvcommandline06:55
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KatteKrabI wanna script a series of commands in evolution...  anyone able to help me with that?06:55
slavikslaterock: is the fan on the vidcar spinning (if there is one)06:55
JmaxEleaf: rtorrent is nice for a cli, as is bittornado06:55
roJo, does anyone know how I can ssh from one machine to another on the same network? (I'm a networking noob)06:55
pvd2006Eleaf, there are many good torrent clients. ubuntu comes with the gnome torrent program06:55
slaterockit's a laptop06:55
Jmaxbjv: is that gui or cli?06:55
slaterockso, i dunno06:55
EleafJmax, well, the built-in torrent download in (dapper) works fine, but I definetely want more features.  At least to be able to keep track of past downloads and seed them after I restart the program etc.06:56
pvd2006that is actually what I use06:56
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pvd2006it works06:56
pvd2006Oh06:56
pvd2006ok06:56
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slavikslaterock: is it hot? (literally)06:56
KatteKrabubotu script commands06:56
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, KatteKrab06:56
intelikeytescoil there prolly is one.  there was back in rh9  mdk9  so surely  ub6.6  has one.06:56
slaterockno06:56
EleafJmax, pvd2006   encryption might be usefull as well. ;p06:56
JmaxEleaf: then i'm afriad azureus or rtorrent are your only choices really (gui, cli(06:56
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Eleafnot necesarry though..06:56
JmaxEleaf: at least for now06:56
pvd2006Eleaf: Hmm, I dont know about all that, haha. I just use the default client that comes with gnome;).06:56
tescoilWhat?  There's an Ubuntu 6.6 now?  Turn my back for a couple days...06:56
Eleafokay.. ;p06:56
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bjvJmax: cli, enhanced version let's you pick one file from the torrent to dl, etc. you can go pretty much anything06:57
intelikey!dapper06:57
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)06:57
roI hate to spam but does anyone know how I can ssh from one machine to another on the same network? (I'm a networking noob)06:57
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Eleafsweet, have you used rtorrent Bjoern-Erik06:57
tescoil"Yes, there is a GUI for that.  It's called emacs"  :P06:57
EleafI mean bjv06:57
slaterockwhat's ssh?06:57
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stan_ro: simply open a Konsole, or any shell window basically06:58
intelikeyro run sshd on one box,  on the other  sshd user@box.ip06:58
bjvEleaf: rtorrent? no, ive used azureus, bittorrent, bittornado and ctorrent06:58
Eleafa secure shell slaterock06:58
slaterockahh06:58
OrTigaShi help to work my sounds i think it only a permission issue06:58
stan_ro: type something like ssh username@hostname06:58
OrTigaSdunno where to change/edit user permission06:58
stan_ro: and it should work just fine06:59
HellDragonpenis06:59
Eleafslaterock, used for encrypted remote login to other hosts often, very important for me ;)06:59
bjvEleaf: enhanced-ctorrent is the only one i can run on my desktop, router and mobile, so its the one i end up using the mnost06:59
Eleaferr..06:59
slaterocko.k06:59
slavikand better than telnet :D06:59
slaterockso, good for net admins and such06:59
Eleafbjv, is that the one you would reccomend to me?06:59
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slaterockanyone else here running dapper beta?07:00
Eleafslaterock, kinda like telnet, but much better.  It's just like having access to the computer as if it where 'next to you'07:00
Eleafslavik, lol07:00
pvd2006intelkey: mozilla browser works fine.07:00
^^angustaslackern, go to ubuntu+1 for dapper07:00
slaterockcan you access a windows box from linux?07:00
bjvEleaf: if your requirement is "i dont want my torrent client to install an entire browser" then enhanced-ctorrent fits the bill :\07:00
intelikeyonly 5 more hours of the "first" down load.......07:01
^^angustahw do you mean slackern ?07:01
slavikEleaf: did I say something wrong?07:01
Eleafslaterock, I suppose.  If it is running a ssh server or vnc.07:01
Eleafslavik, no! =D07:01
pvd2006intelikey: Mozilla browser works fine07:01
slaterockahh07:01
slaterockone more question07:01
slaterockhow do you change permission on a folder?07:01
^^angustayah07:01
intelikeypvd2006 good!   i'm glad they fixed that.      i don't much care for ff07:01
^^angustachmod is the command07:01
OrTigaShi help to work my sounds i think it only a permission issue07:01
slaterocklike, i have a folder that has a little lock icon on it07:01
^^angustaread man chmod07:01
OrTigaSdunno where to change/edit user permission07:01
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slaterockand i can't move it into another folder07:02
Eleafchown to change the owner07:02
pvd2006intelikey, its version 1.6 I got it from synaptic, so im not sure which version is the new one.07:02
pvd20061.707:02
pvd2006I mean07:02
intelikeypvd2006 yea i answered the first post,   im just lagging about 33 seconds...07:02
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arunhey.. i m having problem trying to install a package.. can someone help me with this.. error message -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1271107:02
pvd2006Oh, I said it twice because I didnt spell your nick right hte first time and I know xchat blinks when you get a message, hehe.07:02
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intelikey1.7   k   /me makes a mentel note07:02
intelikeythen desides to write it down......   old age is no fun.07:03
slaterockso, how do i do that?07:03
pvd2006intelikey, mozilla seems a bit faster to me? Maybe its the way it loads information or somethingl07:04
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intelikeyhehhe pvd2006 bx  only  yellows your nick if you call me.  :)      but yeah.07:04
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KatteKrabevolution07:05
rostan_: I time out, I think the problem might be that I'm using the wrong IP on the network. How do I find a machines IP?07:05
KatteKrabubotu evolution07:05
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, KatteKrab07:05
intelikeypvd2006 can't really put my fingre on why,  but i just don't like ff07:05
pvd2006This is ridiculous I have like 5 different browsers on linux alone...07:05
slaterockweird07:05
freet15_Hello all07:05
pvd2006I need to delete some07:05
slaterockit says that i have permissions07:05
slaterockbutican't move it into another directory07:06
rostan_: ifconfig inet adddr: ?07:06
intelikeyro on the box   ifconfig07:06
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amigahow do i mount a drive and give permission to all local users to write to it?07:06
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gleesondanyone know how to fix GDM.... it works after a reboot but if I try to logout it always locks up... and I cant get a vertual terminal to kill it so I end up having to reboot if I want to switch users07:07
rointelikey: it is the inet addr: isn't it?07:07
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intelikey!ntfs07:07
ubotuit has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions07:07
gleesondI guess I don't know where to start looking it fix this problem07:07
OrTigaShi help to work my sounds i think it only a permission issue.....dont know where to change07:07
mDotgot it, i actually needed a full reboot to get the nvidia settings to work07:07
mDotbut im good now07:07
chmod775How do I install the new firefox on ubuntu07:07
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amigai did: "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/mapper/truecrypt0 /mnt/data" but then only root can write to it07:07
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chmod7751.5.0.207:07
chmod775?07:07
slaterockahh, duh07:07
intelikeyamiga if vfat  add  umask=0    if ext#  chmod  it07:07
slaterockjust had to set write permissions07:07
^^angustahow do i shut down x? usually init 3, but it keeps restarting at runlevel 3 even07:07
intelikeyro yeah07:08
amigaintelikey, umask=0 in the mount command line?07:08
intelikey!ff1.507:08
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion07:08
intelikeyamiga yes07:08
rointelikey: I can't ping one machine from the other using the ip. any ideas?07:08
freet15_I try to add some special screen saver, I have  tried to search some manual by google, but ......07:09
OrTigaSi'm alived?07:09
freet15_I just try to add a saver like slider first07:09
ro^^angusta: ctrl + alt + 1 then login then /etc/init.d/gdm stop07:10
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intelikeyro maybe someone else can help you.   i'm not any good with networking, and lagging really bad atm.07:10
amigaintelikey, mount doesn't like that.. it just spits out the help text07:10
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rointelikey: np ^_^ thanks for the effort.07:10
freet15_who had done this before?07:10
^^angustathanks ro, bbl, trying anther way to install nvidia drivers.....07:11
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intelikeyamiga maybe because you didn't add it as an option ?    mount -o umask=0 /dev/device /mount/point07:11
amigaoh ok ill try that07:11
slaterockwhy does amarok have to install kde stufff?07:12
Eleafbecause it depends on kde libraries07:12
amigaintelikey, thanks!!!07:12
_jasonslaterock: because it needs kde libs to work07:12
slaterocklol07:12
ro^^angusta: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074&highlight=nvidia07:12
slaterockmakes sense07:12
Eleaf;p07:12
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ro^^angusta: hope it helps07:12
intelikeyro sorry i can't do more.   Madpilot or _jason might help ya07:12
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slaterocki love amarok07:13
intelikeyamiga np.07:13
sunrexwhats the ubuntu help channel07:13
Madpilotsunrex, this is it - welcome07:13
_jasonsunrex: you are in it :)07:13
roMadpilot: Any ideas why I might not be able to ping from one machine to another on the same network?07:13
_jasonro: you know, two letter names make it difficult to use /lastlost :P07:13
Madpilotro, not sure - I've done a very small amount of network/ssh stuff07:13
pvd2006How do you change which plugin player you want to use in mozilla07:14
pvd2006not firefod07:14
pvd2006not firefox*07:14
pvd2006I have .mpg files trying to open in quicktime plugin07:14
sunrexanyway.. im attempting to install my ati driver, which i downloaded from ati's website, but its saying "Detected version of X does not have a matching 'x700_64a' directory"07:14
_jasonpvd2006: remove the one you don't want and install the one you want basically07:14
pvd2006_jason, there isnt an other way?07:14
_jasonubotu: tell sunrex about ati07:14
ro_jason: yeah but it saves on the typing : )07:14
Madpilotsunrex, are you running the 64 bit version of ubuntu?07:14
sunrexYes07:15
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_jasonpvd2006: not that I know of07:15
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Madpilotsunrex, see the PM the bot sent you - there are ATI drivers in Ubuntu's repos07:15
slaterockhow do you enable mp3 support in amarok?07:15
_jason!mp307:16
uboturumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:16
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intelikeypvd2006 mmm isn't there something in   edit > preferances > errr file something    i don't remember.07:16
intelikeyinside mozilla  ^07:16
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arrickhey guys I need someone to check out a page, fill it out with jiberish and select the radio buttons, then submit so I can test to see if my email client is blocking it as spam07:18
arrickhttp://arrick.no-ip.org07:18
arrickplease07:18
pvd2006intelikey: yeah I found it, but how do I pick the plugin instead of the standalone player.07:18
pvd2006?07:18
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pvd2006goto the directory with the plugin and pick the .so file?07:19
_jasonarrick: The requested URL /cgi-bin/quote.pl was not found on this server.07:19
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slavikarrick: The requested URL /cgi-bin/quote.pl was not found on this server.07:19
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arrickthanks _jason ill be right back07:19
skplanyone here have problems getting 'open link in browser' to work in xchat?07:19
paul_I can't get X to exit07:20
paul_stpped gdm, but X still running07:20
arricktry it again please? I restarted the server07:20
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romulonight =)07:20
slaviksame07:20
FlannelKingskpl: ctrl-click (or is it alt?)07:20
intelikeypvd2006 eeek   that i can't tell ya.07:20
OrTigaShi help to work my sounds i think it only a permission issue.....dont know where to change07:20
pax!unrar07:20
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, pax07:20
FlannelKing!rar07:20
ubotufrom memory, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression07:20
slavik!rar07:20
skplFlannelKing, it is not working for me07:20
_jason!unrar is <reply> see rar07:21
ubotuokay, _jason07:21
intelikeypaul_ way kewl.... that's two new errors that i've never seen before.07:21
paul_is there anther command needed t stp X, as gdm is stpped, but X is still running07:21
slavik!unrar07:21
uboturumour has it, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression07:21
FlannelKingskpl: do you have your preferred browser setup correctly?07:21
slaviknice07:21
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_jasonpaul_: hit ctrl-alt-backspace07:21
paxthanks for fixing that spam bot.07:21
zeaxhow to install a plusin for xmms?07:21
intelikeypaul_ did you  [alt] +[ctrl] +[bs]  ?07:21
slavik_jason: I wrote a script that gets a list of all packages that are not depended on by anything else07:21
paul_the X server restarts, I want to stp it07:21
OrTigaSi'm alived?07:22
paul_as in nt running, so i can install nvidia drivers07:22
_jasonslavik: cool07:22
slavikOrTigaS: I dunno the solution to your problem :(07:22
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skplFlannelKing, gnome-www-browser %s07:22
romuloOrTigaS, whats the problem07:22
kupadcan anyone direct me to some documentation on a server install? ost documentation seems to assume a full install, which i'm trying to avoid07:22
romulomay i ask07:22
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intelikeyif the x server restarts paul_ then  gdm/kdm/xdm  is running.07:22
arrickslavik, _jason can you try again please?07:22
paul_ok, but I stopped gdm, then killed X07:22
slaviknope07:22
OrTigaSthe sounds supposed to work.... but i wont it say dont have permission07:23
_jasonarrick: same07:23
paul_and X restarted07:23
slavikarrick: the perl script is not there07:23
paxunrar (non free) is no where to be found in the repos.07:23
_jason!info unrar-nonfree07:23
ubotuunrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB07:23
arrickhelps if i direct it to the right *&%*^& name07:23
arrickouch07:23
_jasonpax: you have multiverse?07:23
paxI'm sure i do07:23
intelikeypaul_  sudo killall ?dm            where  ?  is  x d and g    three commands.07:23
_jasonpax: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please?07:24
arrickok now try it07:24
OrTigaSromulo, did u see my question07:24
romuloOrTigaS, no07:24
intelikeypaul_   i bet there is a dm running.....  you can  ps -A x | grep dm07:24
OrTigaSthe sounds supposed to work.... but itwont,it say dont have permission07:24
_jasonarrick: The requested URL /submuterror.html was not found on this server.07:24
_jasonsubmit maybe arrick :P07:24
arrickok, guess I neeed to fix that again, ouch07:25
arrickand submut is the correct spelling on both07:25
pax_jason: copy yours to pastebin when you get a chance, let me copy it.07:25
_jasonarrick: does submuterror exist?07:25
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_jasonubotu: tell pax about sources07:25
cgeDoes anyone know how I can check cpu temperature in Windows?  I've been having some temperature issues with dapper (thermal_zone giving me ~70C) which I think are due to hardware issues, and need some way to check this outside of ubuntu.07:25
arrickyeah07:25
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chmod775When ever I try to open a link it says Netscape : 5.0 (X11; en-US) is not supported!07:25
chmod775how can I over come this problem07:26
romulocge, probably your motherboard manufacter has one program on their site07:26
romulothey all have07:26
FlannelKingcge: I think most people use a program called cpu-Z or something like that07:26
cgeromulo, it is a laptop (Dell D600). I can check though.07:26
paul_gah, I had to kill -9 the X server, where is the pid, or lck file fr X put?07:26
arun_jason, hey i am having this problem when installing a package.. can you help me with this.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1271107:26
cgeFlannelKing, thank you.07:26
cgepaul_, it usually tells you in the error output, if I recall.07:26
_jasonarun: what package is this?07:27
paul_not that, just nvidia installer still thinks x is running07:27
paul_even though it isn't07:27
arun_jason, its called sage.. http://www.evl.uic.edu/cavern/sage/download.php07:27
slavikkupad is trying to get sound working from a server install ... he will defect to Windows 3.1 if we don't help him!!! Help save a poor soul!!!07:27
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_jasonarun: that's during 'make' ?07:27
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arunyeah..07:28
pvd2006so after you copy a new plugin to a directory for a browser you just have to close it out and reopen it right?07:28
cgeslackern, 3.1!?07:28
arun_jason, yeah07:28
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cgeerr, slavik07:28
_jasonarun: check your depends, other than that I'd have to try to compile it myself07:28
_jasonpvd2006: yeah07:28
arrick_jason, slavik pwease try again07:29
intelikeypaul_ /var/lock    or /tmp    i don't really know where the lock file is.07:29
paul_thanks intelikey i'll look for it07:29
slavikcge: fine I lied. He will defect to gentoo ...07:29
_jasonarrick: The requested URL /submiterror.html was not found on this server.07:29
slavikarrick: what _jason said07:29
arrickits ther, I wonder why its not picking it up07:29
pvd2006When I try to open a .mpg in firefox or mozilla it just closes the browser everytime, even though I installed the mplayer plugins into the mozilla plugin directory.07:29
intelikeypaul_ possable /etc/X11/    but  like i said,  idk07:29
pvd2006I restarted the browser07:29
romulopvd2006, open it on console and check the output07:29
cgeslavik, the only system I have windows 3.1 installed on is a laptop with 4MB of RAM and a greyscale screen.07:30
slavikcge: install Linux on it :P07:30
slavikDamn Small Linux07:30
slavikor even Minix07:30
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slavikMinix3 is 10MB (source) :)07:30
pvd2006Romulo: I got a segmentation fault07:30
pvd2006that isnt good...07:30
romulohmm pvd2006 , maybe a backtrace with gdb?07:31
_jasonpvd2006: what version of firefox?07:31
pvd20061.0.807:31
arrick_jason, slavik should work now, had to name it case sensitive07:31
pvd2006but I got the error with mozilla 1.7 as well07:31
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_jasonpvd2006: why are you copying stuff manually instead of just letting apt do it?07:31
cgeslavik, 4MB of RAM. Linux has significant problems loading in such cases, even when I was trying to install it (2.2). I don't recall if I ever got it running. But it was more of a challenge than anything useful - I acquired the computer merely because it was so old.07:31
pvd2006apt?07:32
cyphaseGnome On Rails..07:32
pvd2006how can apt do that?07:32
pvd2006its the mplayer plugin07:32
_jasonarrick: ''you got an error''07:32
arrickok, now I just gotta find that and fix it, *&^%*^&207:32
pvd2006it only comes in source code according to their site. the binaries are rpm07:32
FlannelKingpvd2006: yeah, theres a package for mplayer / mozilla07:32
kupadcge: i'm just looking for documentation for a server install...doesn't seem to be much available though07:32
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pvd2006Oh07:32
intelikeycge with 16m ram on a 486 lappy  i installed mdk9  hehhe   it works well.... not as fast as one would like, but very usable.07:32
FlannelKingpvd2006: so, get the rpm and use alien, if it's not in apt07:32
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FlannelKingyeah, Ive got an old toshiba running on 40mb (thank goodness for extended memory)07:33
cgeintelikey, yes, it's apparently the 4 mb that causes the problem.07:33
_jasonpvd2006: mozilla-mplayer, make sure you install mplayer-<arch> first07:33
_jasonpvd2006: both in multiverse iirc07:33
intelikeycge yes linux is a ram hog no doubt07:34
pvd2006_jason, what is multiverse iirc?07:34
intelikeycge the ubuntu initrd wont even unpack in 4m ram07:34
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_jasonpvd2006: multiverse if I recall correctly, I'll have ubotu sedn you a link about multiverse07:34
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FlannelKingcge: you might be better off with bsd, it's got some rather slim stuff.07:34
_jasonubotu: tell pvd2006 about multiverse07:34
Icemanwish ubuntu would install like this07:35
pvd2006I know what multiverse is, what does iirc stand for?07:35
pvd2006if i remember correctly07:35
pvd2006?07:35
_jasonyeah that works too07:35
cgeintelikey, FlannelKing: I tried this years before ubuntu existed. I was using mulinux, running a heavily stripped 2.0 kernel.07:35
Icemanactualy installed and running linux on fat32 ... if only ubuntu would let me do that07:35
Eleafhi07:35
arun_jason, couldnt get that installed.. :(07:35
_jasonIceman: why would you want to?07:36
FlannelKingyeah, I look at mu, and delilinux.07:36
slavikNetBSD07:36
arrickok _jason one more time, I had to clear about 20 pages of errors out07:36
IcemanFlannelKing redundant install, copy one folder and maintain a working install at all times07:36
_jasonarrick: same, it doesn't seem to be a server error, it may just be some information checking since I entered garbage07:36
FlannelKingIceman: erm?07:37
Icemanboot from loadlin07:37
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arrick_jason, should still send it, I wanted to generate an error07:37
arrickthanks07:37
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FlannelKingIceman: are you sure this stuff is meant for me?07:37
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cgekupad, if you really can't find anything, you could look at some of the debian documentation. It might be somewhat similar.07:37
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Icemanyou ask why i would want to run linux from fat32 ...07:38
_jasonIceman: that was me07:38
FlannelKingIceman: I did?07:38
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Icemanwell same answer ... if only i could convert ubuntu to this type install07:38
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arrick_jason, oh yeah, I forgot it has to be a "valid" email to run it ue this one please, last time I promise, MooreAD4473@verizon.net07:39
_jasonarrick: same07:39
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cgeIceman, it would be difficult. The autodetection would have to be much more flexible if you wanted to install by putting a folder in.07:39
arrickok07:39
arrickI must have a bad script07:39
arrickis there a script check utility out there?07:40
Icemancge it auto detects and mounts most everything ... next i do need to update my kernel .. lol07:40
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cgeIceman, yes, but X would have to be set to reconfigure on each restart, wouldn't it?07:41
surfaceis there real developing of flubuntu?07:41
cgesurface, flubuntui?07:41
arrickslavik, can you try again please? use MooreAD4473@verizon.net for the email add07:41
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FlannelKingsurface: erm, fluxbox?07:41
froggypinklehello07:41
surfaceyup FlannelKing07:41
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Icemancge nope ... one config of x and it retains and works like linux ... just a file system .... "fat32" not ext2 or ext3 ...07:41
shinakumahow much ram would fluxbox (+ x) usually use?07:41
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FlannelKingsurface: I haven't heard anything about it, but its in the repositories07:42
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Agent_bobshinakuma about 28m07:42
FlannelKingsurface: you're welcome to suggest it ;)07:42
surfaceshinakuma: less07:42
cgeIceman, oh, I thought you meant you wanted a folder you could transfer to another computer under windows and have ubuntu be installed in that way.07:42
Icemanused zipslack as a bas and installed x .. kde .. gnome ... 3 gigs is all07:42
shinakumak thanks07:42
froggypinklecould anybody help with my printer issue07:42
cgeIceman, it wouldn't be to hard to install it on a fat partition. Have you looked at debootstrap?07:42
gaz00what problem are you having, froggy?07:43
surfaceFlannelKing: i read it at forum, groups of fluxbox user are looking forward to it07:43
cgeIceman, you might need to modify initramfs to contain the right drivers.07:43
shinakumabecause i have an old p2 system that im using with just the server configuration atm, and was wondering if i should get a kvm switch and install a gui for it07:43
FlannelKingsurface: you have a link? I haven't heard anything about it07:43
Icemancge no the folder allows me to clone my install at all times ... yes change pc's and you would have to reconfigure x ...07:43
froggypinklewell it won't print07:43
Madpilotfroggypinkle, what make/model of printer?07:43
slavikgimmie the page link again please07:43
Icemancge wish i could find the probe module used in slax for my install07:43
froggypinklehp deskjet 365307:43
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Madpilot!tell froggypinkle about printers07:43
froggypinkleafter i manually compiled hplip i could get it to install07:44
arrickEvening Madpilot07:44
Madpilothi arrick07:44
froggypinklebefore that it wasn't even findable07:44
cgeIceman, what does it do that ubuntu doesn't?07:44
froggypinklenow it just won't print07:44
Icemandont fully understand the big difference in filesystems ?07:44
FlannelKinghttp://arrick.no-ip.org07:45
Icemanfat32 ... ext2 ...ext3 ... and why i could not convert ubuntu to fat32 ?07:45
FlannelKingerm07:45
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Madpilotfroggypinkle, try System menu -> Admin -> Printing, then select New Printer07:45
ninjuswhat i must do with cedega to start games without oryginal exe files (freeshard and must change files and exec with other *.exe file) ?07:45
FlannelKingIceman: fat has no permissions07:45
arrickMadpilot, finally got the thing working last night, it was getting grabbed by spamgaurd, and now I cant get its brother to work, throwing submit errors07:45
ninjusit's possible ? or must install with wine?07:45
slavik'you got an error'07:46
froggypinkleweres the gnome printer install07:46
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slaviknight all07:46
surfaceFlannelKing: lost the link, they are just discuss, seems xubuntu exist, i was wondering whether flubuntu have in the process of developing07:46
ninjusgame launch when i exec oryginal client.exe, but dont work when i typy for example client_p4.exe07:46
Madpilotfroggypinkle, the menu path I gave you above ^^^07:46
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eggzeckfroggypinkle, have you tried djtools?07:46
froggypinklei do that07:47
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froggypinkleit only shows LPT ports07:47
froggypinklenot usb07:47
froggypinklethat's my problem07:47
NickGarvey!info firefox07:47
cgeIceman, I think all you would need would be to use syslinux or such as the bootloader (I don't think grub can read vfat), modify initramfs to have the right drivers, and then use debootstrap from another ubuntu installation (like the livecd), and you should be able to get a bootable system. The lack of permissions might make it a bit strange, but it would probably work.07:47
ubotufirefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 (breezy), Packaged size: 8268 kB, Installed size: 23932 kB07:47
NickGarveyodd.. why am I upgrading then..07:47
askar_yahoohmm07:47
froggypinklewhat's djtools07:47
FlannelKingsurface: nah, I haven't heard anything, nor does the wiki.07:47
askar_yahooanyone help me07:47
askar_yahoo:(07:47
NickGarveyupdating apt-get too!07:47
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Icemananyone know the probe program used in distros to auto probe an config x ...07:48
eggzeckfroggypinkle, tools for HP deskjet printers... Mainly for 500 series but all should understand.07:48
surfacejust get update... firefox is now 1.0807:48
surfacebut i am using 1.5 which i follow the manual patch07:48
ninjus!info cedega07:48
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NickGarveysurface: oh thats it, I ran apt-get upgrade and it started updating, I was hoping for 1.5 ha07:48
surfaceFlannelKing: i see07:48
cgeIceman, I think it is actually a command line option to Xorg.07:48
surfaceNickGarvey: too bad, 1.0807:49
Madpilotfroggypinkle, I'm not sure why you had to compile hplip - it's available in Ubuntu's repos07:49
NickGarvey:)07:49
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froggypinklehp-setup wouldn't run07:49
Icemancge oh xorg ,,, x11 does not support it ...07:49
Madpilot!info hplip07:49
ubotuhplip: (HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (hplip) - GUI), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.9.5-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 58 kB, Installed size: 508 kB07:49
froggypinkleand the printing under admin dosen't see usb07:49
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Madpilotfroggypinkle, I've got an HP Deskjet 5740 that runs just fine on USB07:50
surfaceNickGarvey: i heard dapper come with firefox 1.507:50
rajathow to install xubuntu07:50
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surfacerajat: download the cd, should be same07:50
cgeIceman, I don't remember what is used for xfree, it might be the same option.07:50
rajatfrom terminal07:50
rajati want to install it from terminal07:50
NickGarveysurface: yup07:50
froggypinkleand it shows usb as a connection07:51
Madpilotrajat, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop (should work)07:51
rajatlet me try thanx07:51
Icemanmay have trashed this install .. :)07:51
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rajat i got following msg- Couldn't find package xubuntu-desktop07:52
Madpilotfroggypinkle, try http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_365007:52
cgeIceman, how?07:52
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arun_jason, :( i couldnt get the sage installed from http://www.evl.uic.edu/cavern/sage/download.php ..  i reinstalled all the dependencies still keep getting the same error about missing references http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1271107:53
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davecbhow do i update from firefox 1.0.707:54
davecbto firefox 1.507:54
davecb?07:54
Madpilot!ff1.507:54
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion07:54
OrTigaShi!help to work my sounds i think it only a permission issue.....dont know where to change...new to linux07:54
surfacedavecb: haha upgrade to dapper07:54
davecbsurface dapper sux =|07:55
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OrTigaSit wont work when i play  no sounds07:55
fiendskull9hey07:55
fiendskull9will someone test my radio station?07:55
surfacedavecb: not a stable release yet, i look forward to dapper07:55
eggzeckdavecb, how can you say dapper if the stable release isn't even out yet?07:55
eggzeckoops, forgot "sucks" after dapper07:55
davecbeggzeck,  installed the unstable version07:55
davecb:P07:55
arun_jason, are u there07:56
eggzeckdavecb, exactly: "unstable" ;)07:56
pvd2006Ok, I am getting closer to playing all media formats through a browswer. With Opera I set different formats to play with different media players. I set .wmv files to play with totem-movie player because they work. The only problem now is when is when they try to open it says it cant fine the file but if I goto the directory the file is there. its a weird file name like filename (11).wmv07:56
davecblol exactly07:56
davecblet me rephrase it07:56
pvd2006I can play the file if I open it manually07:56
pvd2006from the folder07:56
davecbubuntu dapper unstable sux07:56
davecb:P07:56
eggzeckthere you go :P07:56
pvd2006but I cant do it from a direct download07:56
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davecbbreezy rulz \o/07:56
eggzeckeven though it doesn't... it's just not complete07:56
fiendskull9hey07:56
fiendskull9can someone test my radio station real quick?07:57
davecbaww on dapper i had a big black screen on GDM07:57
davecbre-installed the breezy07:57
davecblol07:57
surfacedavecb: u do dist-upgrade or install fresh one?07:58
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bifodushmm07:59
davecbsurface,  fresh07:59
bifodusdoes anyone have experience installing broadcom wireless internet cards?07:59
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cafuego!bcm43xx07:59
ubotuTo use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.07:59
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ice_1963davecb: did you install from the text base?07:59
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surfaceubotu is bot?08:00
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, surface08:00
Madpilotubotu, tell surface about yourself08:00
pvd2006I see why it doenst work its trying to open the file with a space in it but it needs the %20 instead of a regular space so it wont find the file...08:00
pvd2006crap08:00
eggzecklol.08:00
eggzeck@ Madpilot08:00
pvd2006I dont know how to get past hat08:00
sunrexalright, i cant install ati driver cause it says "Detected version of X does not have a matching 'x700_64a' directory"... how do i fix this08:00
cgehmmm, my cpu is at ~47C while idling in Windows and sitting on an icepack, and ~45C while running in ubuntu with init level 1...08:01
davecbwell im an human being (as in newbie lol ) so im gonna answer that i installed it from the ISO cd08:01
davecb=X08:01
ice_1963ok08:01
sunrexanyone use dapper and ati?08:01
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cgesunrex, I do, but only with the free software drivers.08:01
Madpilotsunrex, if you're running Dapper 64bit, try #ubuntu+108:01
davecbbtw when will the stable version be out?08:02
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pvd2006so how to get opera to save the file and automaticlly put a %20 for all spaces or how to get linux to automatically recognize a space as %20.08:02
shinakumaMadpilot: what about dapper 32bit?08:02
Madpilotshinakuma, #ubuntu+1 for all Dapper questions08:02
shinakuma;P08:02
davecbi have another stupid question08:03
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davecbhow can i update to gnome 2.14?08:03
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face/join #ubuntu08:03
Madpilotdavecb, Dapper ;)08:03
cgedavecb, install dapper :)08:03
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davecbBAH08:03
davecbis that the only way?08:03
pvd2006So is there a way to get linux to automatically assocate %20 with a space and vice versa when trying to open a file with %20 in it?08:03
cgedavecb, try dist-upgrading from dapper?08:03
Madpilotdavecb, probably. Anything else is likely to be messy.08:04
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pvd2006because the program is look for a space but the actual file has %2008:04
cgedavecb, I mean to dapper. It is probably less likely to break X.08:04
eggzeckpvd2006, escape it08:04
Madpilotface, please just ask, no need to ask to ask08:04
facewhere is menuconfig?08:04
pvd2006eggzeck, what do you mean by that exactly?08:04
davecb=|08:04
meniskDoes anyoe here no how to get MYSQL working with php in ubuntu08:04
davecbi will wait08:04
eggzeckpvd2006: \%2008:04
davecbfor the stable version08:04
ice_1963i installed dapper ..text base it's easy give it a try :)08:05
roI'm having a problem upgrading my nvidia drivers to 8708:05
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ro*875608:05
davecbna ice_196308:05
davecbits better to wait08:05
pvd2006eggzeck, it already has %20 in the filename it self, but when it tries to open from opera it tries to open it with a space instead of %20 and it doesnt find it.08:05
davecbfor the stable version08:05
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davecb:P08:05
pvd2006so I guess08:06
pvd2006I have to manually08:06
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pvd2006find the url for each file08:06
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B4zzAdapper beta is awesome08:06
pvd2006then put %20 in it08:06
B4zzA:)08:06
pvd2006and hit enter in my url08:06
pvd2006browser08:06
pvd2006*08:06
Madpilot!enter08:06
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.08:06
ice_1963i installed all 3 now back etch08:06
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eggzeckpvd2006, I dunno about file->open but you'd have to escape the % if typing directly in browser08:07
meniskhello...does anyonehere know hoe to get MYSQL working with php in ubuntu?08:07
bc__helpme help me pls......08:07
_jason!lamp08:07
ubotuLinux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP08:07
arrick!mysqp08:07
ubotuarrick: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:07
Apostle^!javaselect08:07
ubotuApostle^: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:07
Apostle^whats the command to choose the java that is used?08:08
_jason!multijava08:08
ubotuit has been said that multijava is to try to set which java is used, run "sudo update-alternatives --config java"08:08
B4zzAquite true ...if your using linux, then you should know what to do after a command :P08:08
Apostle^thanks08:08
Madpilot_jason, nice, didn't know that !tell existed08:08
arrickWhat is the site for validating html Madpilot?08:08
faceso, anyone hack the kernel on ubuntu?  where's the tools?  config,oldconfig, menuconfig, xconfig, etc08:08
Madpilot_jason, the !javaselect one08:08
Madpilotarrick, http://validator.w3.org/08:08
_jasonMadpilot: it doesn't :)08:08
FlannelKingCosta Del Mar Road08:09
FlannelKinggah.  I hate paste.08:09
Madpilot_jason, gah, sorry, meant the multijava one08:09
Apostle^!java08:09
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs08:09
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cgeshould a pentium m in a laptop be going above ~75C when running at 100%?08:10
me2wincge: sounds reasonable08:10
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pvd2006actually I see now that it isnt the space that is the problem. Opera is downloading the file with just filename but its trying to open filename (14).wmv08:11
cranaewhat are the biggest differences between ubuntu standard and server releases?08:11
cgeme2win, really? oh. wow.08:11
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pvd2006ahhh, I meant the other way around Opera is downloading the file filename (14).wmv but totem is trying to open it as filename itself.08:11
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Apostle^!easyubuntu08:11
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu08:12
Apostle^one has a gui one doesn't08:12
me2wincranae: no gui in server08:12
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kestashey has anyone here ever had mod point on slashdot?08:13
kestaspoints08:13
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hajuuive had your mums mod points08:13
hajuuall night long08:14
kestasignored08:14
cgekestas, yes, but you probably should ask in #ubuntu-offtopic.08:14
me2winhajuu:08:14
me2win!coc08:14
ubotuit has been said that coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/08:14
arun_jason, :( i couldnt get the sage installed from http://www.evl.uic.edu/cavern/sage/download.php ..  i reinstalled all the dependencies still keep getting the same error about missing references http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1271108:14
hajuume2win, NO YOUR MUM JOKES?? What is the world comming to...08:14
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PwcrLinuxHi there08:15
Madpilothajuu, #ubuntu-offtopic can probably tolerate a small number of 'your mom' jokes - provided they're actually funny...08:15
Madpilot;)08:15
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hajuuIsnt the whole idea of your mum jokes, that they are so stupid and unfunny....08:15
hajuulol08:15
kestasyour mom can probably tolerate a small number of 'your mom' jokes08:15
ice_1963:)08:16
hajuueheh08:16
Madpilotkestas, :D08:16
cgehajuu, and if we aren't too busy in there talking about how to eliminate the need for a mouse by controlling the cursor with a combination of capslock and 24 keys.08:16
hajuuLOL08:16
hajuuim THERE08:16
pvd2006Ok, this is some type of problem with opera, it is trying to use the URL from the internet instead of the saved file. and the filename from the internet is not on my harddrive so it doesnt exist08:17
hajuupvd2006, file-> offline mode?08:17
pvd2006hajuu, that doesnt work either:-\08:18
pvd2006Let me see if I can explain this better.08:18
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IceToxwhere do i enable the hird mouse button for my mouse?08:20
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MadpilotIceTox, it should work by default08:20
IceTox*third08:20
IceToxit doesn't Madpilot08:20
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IceToxwell it works with the copy/paste, but not with scroll08:21
pvd2006the filename source came online from http://www.website.com/filename.wmv it is saved on the HD as ~/filename(14).wmv when I try to open filename(14).wmv totem is trying to open filename.wmv instead of filename.wmv like its linking back to the original filename08:21
cgepvd2006, file a bug with the company that develops opera.08:21
MadpilotIceTox, so it works as a button, but not as a scrollwheel?08:21
IceToxyes Madpilot08:22
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PwcrLinuxHmm how I need exit the manual?08:22
IceToxPwcrLinux, use q to exit a man file08:22
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fiendskull9hey08:22
fiendskull9does anyone have any topics for my linux radio show?08:22
PwcrLinuxIce: ah okay thanks :)08:22
arrickhey Madpilot I got a quicky for you, when using radio buttons in html, the name="somename" are the same for that group and the id="somename are also the same correct?08:22
pvd2006cge, heh, and I just thought it was my lacking of knowledge that was at play. I guess it really is some type of bug.08:22
gaz00XGL08:22
IceToxyou welcome PwcrLinux08:22
caonexnanybody knows the name of the atheros / madwifi driver in linux-restricted-modules?08:23
cgepvd2006, no, that sounds like a bug08:23
Madpilotarrick, ask on #html, not here08:23
arrickok08:23
varsendaggerhow do i changet the term that my computer uses as default?08:23
Madpilotpvd2006, which version of Opera?08:23
hantahi i have a usb device that is mounted but needs formatting as fat32.. how do i do this?08:23
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pvd2006madpilot: opera 8.5.208:24
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IceToxMadpilot, no solution for my problem with the scrollwheel?08:24
varsendaggerhow do i change the terminal  that my computer uses as default?08:24
Madpilotpvd2006, 8.5.4 is out, try that, then file a bug report with Opera - give them a sample URL if you can08:24
pvd2006alright, thanks.08:24
MadpilotIceTox, no idea - check the forums, maybe.08:25
Madpilot?08:25
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calamariwhen I open "Windows Network", I get: ""smb:///" is not a valid location.  Please check the spelling and try again."  What am I doing wrong?08:27
PwcrLinuxMadpilot: How I mount the USB floppy drive for reformating the diskette?08:27
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vookIceTox, sorry for the late entry, what is the issue with the scrollwheel?08:31
IceToxyes vook08:31
IceTox:-)08:31
IceToxbetter late then sorry :-)08:32
vooknot working?08:32
IceToxWell, it's working as a button.. that is, i can use it for pasting a copy, but it doesn't wheel08:32
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davecbstupid question comming....08:33
vookhmmm,  back up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and then try, from the console, X -configure,08:33
davecbhow do i install J2SE Runtime Environment08:33
vook!blackdown08:33
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, vook08:33
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IceToxthat's no dumb question davecb :-)08:34
IceTox*that's08:34
IceToxblackdown works very well too :-)08:34
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IceToxI will try that vook.. thanks a lot :-)08:34
caonexcan someone tell me madwifi module atheros name?08:35
rowould there be any adverse effects to reformating the swap partition?08:35
sobbbberwhat's the ftp program for ubuntu?08:35
davecbIceTox,08:35
vooksobbbber, eh, ftp?  try ncftp08:35
davecbdo you know how to do it?08:35
davecbi tried with apt-get but theres no package =|08:35
IceToxdavecb, go to your menu -> Add application08:36
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IceToxsearch for blackdown and then just do whatever the computer tells you davecb :-) You cannot fail08:36
davecbhmmmmmmmmmmm08:36
ciph^hi, i hate to interrupt but ive been searching for an answer to this for an hour.  is it possible for prelink to cause you to no longer be able to login?08:36
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sunrexim trying to install a 64bit ati driver but i get this :Detected version of X does not have a matching 'x700_64a' directory... can anyone help?08:37
vookor midnight commander - cd /#ftp:misterftpsite.co.uk08:37
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LeoBandsLeleco08:38
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protocol1Im thinking about getting a fujitsu brand notebook08:38
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sunrexim thinking about destorying ati..08:39
hajuuprotocol1, good to know08:39
vookprotocol1, ok08:39
PwcrLinuxbrb08:39
hantahow do i format something fat32?08:39
Apostle^hanta: use gparted08:39
vookhanta: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda     NONONONONO, sorry, why why why?08:40
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LeoBandsleleco??08:40
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vookhanta, mkfs.vfat08:40
hantavook: mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sda108:41
vookhanta, are you root?08:41
hantaoh man no.. thanks :)08:42
vook:)08:42
hantaoh god please fix my shuffle08:42
kestashanta: there'll be better ways to do that08:42
kestashanta: check out apple.com08:42
hantakestas: no linux software on apple.com !!08:43
kestashanta: well you'll have to take it round someone's house who has windows08:43
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PwcrLinuxIm back :)08:43
hantawhy is it better to use shuffle with windows?08:44
hantait is just a usb memory stick08:44
kestashanta: not so much use, but if you want to fix a shuffle only windows and os x have the tools08:44
DenHi - Can I get some help with Debian Etch & KDE??08:44
DenHi - Mouse help please?  I just installed Etch + KDE (apt install kde).  The mouse lacks proper acceleration, & I can't get it to accelerate by changing the control panel setting.  Suggestions?  Also, the touchpad doesn't work. Sony Vaio Laptop.  sonypi driver is loaded.  Anyone heard about these kind of mouse problems?  Suggestions?08:44
kestashanta: theres more to it than that08:44
FlannelKingDen: this is ubuntu, not debian.08:45
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bliss1_hi08:45
DenFlannelKing: Well, I'll be!08:45
hantakestas: linux's inability to handle the shuffle is surprisingly undocumented. is it truly impossible to fix under linux?08:46
FlannelKingDen: anyway, you might have some luck over at #kubuntu, but #ubuntu is primarily gnome08:46
DenFlannelKing: I know. I been to #kubuntu, & more - strill trying to get a knowledgeable anser.08:46
bliss1_Frogzoo: which user group uses tun?08:47
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calamariDen: does it work under plain X, or twm, say?08:48
hantakestas: please tell me more if you say 'there is more to it than that'08:48
Dencalamari: I have only tried KDE sofar.08:48
PwcrLinuxaha, updating brb08:50
calamariDen: another idea might be to try the console mouse, can't remember its name right now.. see if it has acceleration. guess where I'm goign with this: is it the kernel, x, or kde that is causing your problem?08:50
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calamariDen: gpm.. thats it :)08:51
Dencalamari: so, would I install gpm & use that with the ctrl-alt-f1 console?08:52
calamariDen: yeah08:52
Dencalamari: thx :)08:52
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PwcrLinuxWhew :)08:52
calamariDen: np, I know very little, but hopefully this helps identify the area with the problem08:52
calamariDen: btw, I don't remember whether gpm and X play very well together, so probably want to shut that down while trying it08:53
Dencalamari: How do I "stopx"?08:53
calamariDen: ctrl-alt-backspace, although you might have a daemon restart it on you08:54
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hantai love asking a question about linux and being to to just use windows08:55
calamarifor example in gnome if I do that, gdm restarts X.. so I'd have to shut down gdm first08:55
Dencalamari: I was unable to get ctrl-alt-bsp to do anything - do you know a console command to stopx?  Or, can i psaux then kill something?08:55
calamariDen: I'm sorry, I don't know08:55
Dencalamari: NP - thx :)08:55
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ninjusDen, you wanna stop your X window system ?08:56
Denninjus: Yes, how?08:56
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ninjustelinit 3 as root08:57
ninjussudo telinit 308:57
calamarininjus: he is having trouble with his mouse, and I suggested he try gpm to see if that worked properly in a tty08:57
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mDotguys n gals, ive got good news... im ready to kill my Windows partition.08:57
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calamarimDot: wish I could say the same, but Personal Ancestral File doesn't run well under wine yet :)08:57
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mrchicagoanyone know how i can get madden 200 to run under wine08:58
ninjushm08:58
mrchicagoit keeps coming up with a language error08:58
bigfoot1how do i download a movie file that starts with mms  (mms://blahblah.com/blah.wmv)?08:58
mDoti havn't booted into it in weeks, and i just go Enemy Territory running with full widescreen support08:58
calamaribigfoot1: mimms or I think mplayer can do it too08:59
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calamarimDot: sweet!08:59
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ninjusmDot, gratz ;-)08:59
PwcrLinuxmDot: You gonna erase the windows partations? want to install just linux only HD?08:59
james__!java09:00
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs09:00
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mDotPwcrLinux i need to format the Windows partition and reclaim the freed space09:00
Denninjus: Thx for telinit :)09:00
mrchicagoheh09:00
james__!javadebs09:00
ninjusDen, np09:00
mrchicagoguess what the updated repos has linux09:00
bigfoot1calamari: thanks. i'm getting mimms now09:00
ninjusDen, gpm work ?09:00
mrchicagojava09:00
mrchicagoi mean09:00
mrchicagolol09:00
Denninjus: Havent' had chance to try gpm yet09:01
PwcrLinuxmDot: oh, hmm I dunno, ask someone know, I am not a M$ user anymore :)09:01
PwcrLinuxmDot: try gparted to resize a NTFS partitation09:02
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calamariPwcrLinux: the last time I tried gparted I had very bad luck and messed up a bunch of files.. of course that could be because I was using ext2 at the time...09:03
bigfoot1calamari: does mimms download the file in 1X speed?09:03
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calamaribigfoot1: no I think it downloads as fast as it can09:03
mackanhej09:03
PwcrLinuxcalamari: Oh boy09:03
mackanhello09:03
calamariPwcrLinux: I was able to get it back tho.. I didn't want to reinstall :)09:04
kupadi've attempted to mount a FAT32 partition and received a "can't read from superblock" error...09:04
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mackanwhat a fucking are you doing09:04
bigfoot1calamari: thanks again! what a great tool!09:04
PwcrLinux!language09:04
ubotuPlease watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.09:04
calamaribigfoot1: yw.. have fun :)09:04
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james__anyone know how to get java 1.4 installed09:04
kupadthink anyone can help?09:04
bigfoot1calamari: when i play streaming asx wmv files, i can't fast forward.09:04
bigfoot1but now, thanks to you, i can.09:04
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bigfoot1does anybody know how to convert a wmv file to a iPod-viewable format?09:05
bigfoot1(video iPod)09:05
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kameleons2006hola buenas algun espaol09:05
PwcrLinux!es09:05
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:05
calamaribigfoot1: again, might check out mplayer / mencoder for that.. it can do an awful lot09:05
kameleons2006what is chanel for ubuntu spanish09:05
kameleons2006ok sorry09:05
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bigfoot1calamari: which shoudl i check out? mplayer OR mencoder?09:06
calamaribigfoot1: they come in the same epackage, afaik09:06
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bigfoot1oh09:06
bigfoot1i see09:07
kupadthe strange thing about the error is that the partition mounts under mandrake09:07
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stjepanhi09:07
bigfoot1stjepan: hi09:07
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rnd_nullwhat does the first line of .xsessions need to be ??09:07
calamaribigfoot1: its weird because mplayer is sometimes easier to use to encode things than mencoder .. hehe09:07
stjepanI installed WMII and want to add it GDM session list... how to do this?09:07
bigfoot1really?09:07
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famioh09:07
bigfoot1i haven't used mplayer much. only when a gui program can't play a media file09:08
stjepan!gdm09:08
ubotustjepan: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:08
calamaribigfoot1: this seems interesting http://atomized.org/2005/11/converting-video-to-play-on-your-ipod-with-ffmpeg/09:09
rnd_null/_-< what does the first line of .xsessions need to be??09:09
bigfoot1calamari:  thanks09:09
calamarirnd_null: where is that file?  in your home dir?09:10
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kameleons2006hello09:11
rnd_nullcalamari, yes, someone earlier told me that the file would run when X started up, he said that it was in my /home/(user) dir09:11
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kameleons2006what active my nick register09:11
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majdHi, i installed compiz and xgl and they both work wonderfully....but for some reason, rotate isn't in my gconf-editor and cube doesn't have a screen0>options09:11
rnd_nullcalamari, he said that the file would autorun when X started up09:12
calamarirnd_null: I have an .Xsession file, but that's the closest I see09:12
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skpldoes anyone have any idea why i can not 'open selected link in browser' in xchat? i just installed a new version of firefox09:12
rnd_nullcalamari, the first line is bin-bash something?09:13
calamarirnd_null: #!/bin/sh09:13
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rnd_nullcalamari, yep, thank you :) ...that was in your home dir right?09:13
FlannelKingskpl: did you update preferred-browser?09:13
calamarirnd_null: yes09:13
rnd_nullcalamari, thank you :)09:14
calamariyou're welcome09:14
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kupadcan anyone help me with this mount issue?  i'm attempting to mount a FAT32 partition, but am getting a "can't read superblock" error09:14
kupadthe partition mounts under my other distro09:15
majdskpl: i had the same problem...i can't tell you how to fix it but it works in dapper....09:15
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stjepanis fakeroot secure?09:16
calamarikupad: is this a usb stick by chance?09:16
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kupadcalamari: no, it's a harddrive09:17
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skplFlannelKing, this is my entry for preferred browser gnome-www-browser %s09:17
kameleonshello help09:17
kupadsudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdf5 /media/big09:17
kupadthat's what I try09:18
VincentMXhi09:18
kameleons#ubuntu-es :Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel09:18
kameleonske tengo hacer09:18
kameleons09:18
FlannelKingskpl: go to a terminal and type "gnome-www-browser" does something come up?09:18
calamarikupad: if you leave off the -t vfar does it work ?09:18
kupadcal: no, it demands i explicity give it a fs09:18
Madpilotkameleons, you are registered already, you just need to identify09:18
calamarikupad: weird.. I don't have to do that here09:19
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calamarikupad: perhaps only because it's in my fstab09:19
kupadcal: i don't typically have to either....the other strange thing is that this partition mounts with my other distro09:19
kameleonsok Since I register, the nick costs(suits) registardor of the ircap09:20
calamarimust be something weird going on with that partition.. I have 2 fat32 partitions mounted right now, no prob09:20
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skplFlannelKing, bash: gnome-www-browser: command not found09:20
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FlannelKingskpl: there's your problem ;)09:20
FlannelKingskpl: try just www-browser09:20
BlueEaglekupad: sudo fdisk -l   <= Check that there really is a hdf509:21
skplFlannelKing, w3m version w3m/0.5.1, options lang=en,m17n,image,color,ansi-color,mouse,gpm,menu,cookie,ssl,ssl-verify,external-uri-loader,w3mmailer,nntp,gopher,ipv6,alarm,mark,migemo09:21
skpland some other junk09:21
skplno browser09:21
kameleonsSince I identify ?09:21
FlannelKinghmm, alright.  well, there's your problem.  you'll need to reconfigure your browser dohickey, and then switch to that instead of gnome-09:21
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FlannelKingkameleons: identify, then you can join09:21
kupadblueeagle:  thanks...hdf5 doesn't show up09:22
BlueEaglekupad: Have you got the drivers for your IDE chipset loaded?09:22
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Madpilotkameleons, you need to type /msg NickServ identify <yourpassword> - and put your password in where I put <yourpassword>09:22
ospite:)09:22
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kupadblue: in fact, hdf doesn't show up at all...but it shows up in /proc/partitions09:22
ospitehi there09:22
kameleonsI sit(feel) it it(he,she) is that soi new caundo I try to speak in the Spanish channel says this to me::Please register with services and uses(use) the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel, and not that I have to do09:23
BlueEaglekupad: sudo depmod -a09:23
ospitehow it works there?09:23
BlueEaglekupad: then try fdisk -l again.09:23
backzI'll do a production server. can I use 5.10 for now and when 6.06 (Dapper) will out, can I upgrade it safely via apt ?09:23
FlannelKingkameleons: it is because we have had some problems with bots09:23
kupadblue: still doesn't show09:23
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BlueEaglekupad: Which chipset is on the IDE controller onto which hdf is connected?09:24
FearMothare there any tutorials on setting up lirc using the packages I've installed with synaptic ?09:24
BlueEaglekupad: (hint: lspci|grep IDE)09:24
skplFlannelKing, how do i do that09:25
kameleonsDeacuerdo, but that I have to do to enter and that leaves me to speak, to excuse that it(he,she) is so pesao09:25
kameleonssorry for my translations09:25
FlannelKingskpl: sorry, no idea.  don't use a wm regularly.  Theres a command, and it'll bring up the menu to select your browser.09:25
kupadblue: 0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)09:25
kupadblue: but i should have two09:25
BlueEaglekupad: you sure should.09:25
Madpilotkameleons, this channel was set up the same way for a while. There have been bot attacks on channels.09:25
kameleonsThen I cannot enter09:26
kameleons?09:26
BlueEaglekupad: lspci and see if you can find something useful or head over to pastebin.com and past the output there09:26
stjepanwhen building pyFltk I get this error: error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)09:26
stjepanany ideas how to fix this?09:26
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Madpilotkameleons, yes you can, you just need to identify like I told you above09:27
FlannelKingkameleons: you need to register your nickname and identify to nickserv09:27
BlueEaglestjepan: You need python sources installed apperantly.09:27
BlueEaglestjepan: or python at all.09:27
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kameleonsAlready but not as(like) identifying09:27
EvilDinhay i can upgrade09:27
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EvilDincan't09:27
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BlueEagleevildin: you can't upgrade what?09:28
kameleonsDoes my nick in ircap this one already registrao cost(suit) this same?09:28
kameleonsAnd as(like) me login here09:28
lachimhi, is it possible to disable dvd-rom initialising at boot (breezy)09:28
PwcrLinuxkameleons: you need to register nickname    /msg nickserv register yourownpassword09:28
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Madpilotkameleons, the nick you're using right now is already registered - you should be able to speak in #ubuntu-es09:28
EvilDinwhen i make apt-get update, it writes that can't make list because it is using old one, somehow have to fi this09:29
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stjepanBlueEagle, tnx, it works, I just installed python2.4-dev09:29
FlannelKingMadpilot: he's not registered09:29
BlueEaglestjepan: There you go.09:29
kupadblue: working on it...hold on - i ran a command before with which both drives showed up09:29
lachimI need to disable dvd-rom at all it is brooken and freezes my laptop at boot09:29
stjepanis it better to use apt-get or aptitude?09:30
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MadpilotFlannelKing, his nick shows up as n= when you run whois - he should be reg'd and id'd09:30
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BlueEaglekupad: Well the fact that lspci doesn't list it with |grep IDE is a bit unnerving.09:30
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FlannelKingMadpilot: whois him.  "is identified to services" is absent.09:30
kupadblue: i agree09:31
BlueEagleevildin: Shut down all running instances of apt-get and/or synaptic and/or aptitude09:31
EvilDinhow to09:31
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MadpilotFlannelKing, gah, you're right - I guess the n= stuff has changed?09:31
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BlueEagleevildin: ps aux|grep apt09:31
fiendskull9IM running OSX86 in vmware guys09:31
BlueEagleevildin: then kill off any processes that use the file that is locked09:31
FlannelKingMadpilot: erm, lilo was talking about it the other day, I guess it must be something else then.09:32
kameleonsok merci09:32
kameleonsgoodbay09:32
PwcrLinuxkameleons: Now,  do id'ing  /msg nickserv identify yourownpassword   then join a channel09:32
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MadpilotFlannelKing, missed that. AFAIK, n=$nick meant reg'd/id'd, i=$nick meant unidentified - anyway, doesn't matter09:33
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stjepanI need opengl to compile fltk.... what package should I install?09:33
lachimi have tried adding cdrom and ide-cd to /etc/hotplug to disable that broken dvd-drive but it doesn't help (still freezes at boot)09:33
BlueEaglestjepan: AS a basic rule: When unfamiliar with linux use prebuildt packages.09:34
lachim/etc/hotplug/blacklist09:34
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stjepanBlueDevil, I must compile fltk09:34
EvilDinnot problem is here it somehow dosn't get connection to all gpg files, i don't know why?09:34
refnumzxim trying to modify the ip_nat_ftp and ip_conntrack_ftp to do natting on alternate ports i placed the files with the module name in the modprobe.d directory and placed the text of the options i want inside the file then ran update-modules command but it does not generate a /etc/modules.conf, ideas?09:34
stjepanBlueEagle, so where is opengl??09:34
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kupadblue: posted http://pastebin.com/67481909:34
stjepanBlueEagle, mesa?09:34
BlueEaglestjepan: Well, you must live and you must die. The rest is actually optional. :)09:34
majdHi, i think there's a problem with my ATI driver...when i type in fglrxinfo this is what i get: http://pastebin.com/67481809:34
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BlueEagle!opengl09:35
ubotuBlueEagle: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:35
BlueEagle!info opengl09:35
BlueEaglehmm09:35
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stjepan!mesa09:35
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, stjepan09:35
majdBlueEagle: was that for me?09:36
BlueEaglemajd: Not really.09:36
majdoh ok09:36
stjepanBlueEagle, I installed libgl1-mesa-dev, I'll try to compile now09:36
DenHi - Debian question:  Does the "synaptics touchpad" sw handle the touchpad in Etch for sony vaio lapop?  If yes, how is it installed? loadable module?  What module??09:36
kupadblueeagle:  not sure if you saw it:  http://pastebin.com/67481909:37
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BlueEagleden: Why are you asking a debian question here?? o.O09:37
stjepanBlueEagle, it seems to be working now :)09:37
DenBlueEagle: Cause I wanted to talk with you :)09:37
PwcrLinuxDen: try join #debian09:37
MadpilotDen, #debian - and be glad you're not asking an Ubuntu question in #debian :P09:37
BlueEaglekupad: 0000:00:0f.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Promise Technology, Inc. PDC20262 (FastTrak66/Ultra66) (rev 01) is the one we need the drivers to.09:38
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DenMadpilot: #debian LOVES ubuntu!09:38
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Den!debian09:39
ubotuDebian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/09:39
majdalso, when i open up ATI Control, i get this: Driver does not provide the FireGL X11 extensions! panel components will operate only partially09:39
MadpilotDen, not much, from all reports ;)09:39
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kupadBlueEagle: not even sure where to start09:40
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BlueEaglekupad: Working on it.09:42
BlueEaglekupad: I started with google. )09:42
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FearMothare there any tutorials on setting up lirc using the packages I've installed with synaptic ?09:42
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FlannelKingFearMoth: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LircHowto09:43
FearMoththank you09:43
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FearMothFlannelKing: so I shouldn't bother with apt-get'ing the prcompiled .deb's ?09:44
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FlannelKingFearMoth: if there are debs, use those ;)  I just know about that howto since I search for irc yesterday ;)09:44
majd(i know this pisses people off but..) can i get some help here please?09:44
FlannelKingFearMoth: but, later it talks about config and stuff.09:44
hyphenatedmajd: it annoys people because it's so vague, not because they're unwilling to help09:45
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FearMoththanks i'll take a closer look09:45
FlannelKinghyphenated: he asked a specific question, five minutes ago09:45
EvilDini have problem somehow apt-get update dosn't get connection to all gpg files, i don't know why?09:45
FlannelKingmajd: it just means no one whos on now has an answer09:45
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majdhyphenated: i already asked the question :) but here it is again. I installed compiz and xgl and the wobbly effect works fine. Cube and rotate don't work however and i believe it's because of my video card's driver. When i run flgrxinfo i get this line: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".09:46
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majdFlannelKing: eh...i guess09:46
kupadBlueEagle: i haven't had much luck yet09:46
delayota__gimme opengl .net 2.0 tutorial09:46
delayota__gimme opengl .net 2.0 tutorial09:46
delayota__gimme opengl .net 2.0 tutorial09:46
delayota__gimme opengl .net 2.0 tutorial09:46
delayota__gimme opengl .net 2.0 tutorial] 09:47
FlannelKing!ops09:47
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee09:47
PwcrLinuxdelayota__: Don't flood in here pls09:47
sfardelayota__: one more time please09:47
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kupadBlueEagle: i'm also trying to find that command I typed in to get the info on both my HD's09:47
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kupadblue:  it's not in my history for some reason09:47
BlueEaglekupad: still working on it. :)09:47
hyphenatedmajd: not a good sign. this is in dapper or breezy?09:47
__mike__Alright, long question.  I installed, after some struggling, ubuntu 5.10.  I then installed some upgrades, and Automatix.  Once I was done with the upgrades I ran Automatix, and it seems like most of Automatix did NOT work.09:47
majddapper09:47
hyphenatedmajd: you've asked in #ubuntu+1?09:48
__mike__Any insights as to what i did wrong?  I realize this ain't much to go on, but...09:48
naliothubotu: tell __mike__ about automatix09:48
Madpilot__mike__, you used Automatix09:48
majdhyphenated: would i look stupid if i said no?09:48
__mike__...I see.09:48
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__mike__Thank you muchly.09:48
hyphenatedmajd: it'd seem like you didn't read the topic09:48
__mike__If that's the case then I have one more question.09:48
Madpilothyphenated, nobody reads the topic :P09:49
majdbah09:49
majdwho reads the topic09:49
__mike__Is it possible to use all the .deb's in my apt cache folder to avoid re-downloading all the patches?09:49
FlannelKing!automatix09:49
ubotu[automatix]  unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.09:49
majd:) sorry bout that09:49
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hyphenatedmajd: ATI works fine for me in breezy, and fglrxinfo doesn't give that error09:49
lachimnewermind, i modified /etc/hotplug/ide.rc and it seems to work09:49
majdi found that automatix worked great09:49
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BlueEaglekupad: sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/pdc202xx_old.ko09:50
majdhyphenated: i don't even know where to start debugging the problem, i'm completely lost...i need to read a book or something09:50
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monsterbhi09:50
Edgy_Eftwhich is more supportet in ubuntu: nVidia or  ATI?09:50
BlueEaglekupad: sudo fdisk -l09:50
BlueEaglekupad: did that help?09:50
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FlannelKingEdgy_Eft: nvidia, because nvidia is a lot nicer to linux than ATI09:50
__mike__Or moreover, a more direct question... should I wipe my system now to get rid of the Automatix curse?  It's a brand new Ubuntu install, so.09:51
FlannelKing__mike__: I would09:51
monsterbEdgy_Eft: nvidia09:51
nboundEdgy_Eft: nvidia, coz nvidia cares :P09:51
arrickFlannelKing, , I just found an error in my script, can you try the form at http://arrick.no-ip.org and use the email address MooreAD4473@verizon.net in the form, has to be legit emaill addy, but the rest can be giberish, and you gotta click on one radio button per section09:51
__mike__FlannelKing: OK09:51
majdFlannelKing: just my luck....i have an ATI card and a Lexmark printer and an unsupporrted Logitech quickcam09:51
nboundbut ati cards using fglrx are fine09:51
__mike__FlannelKing: Can I use the .deb's in the apt cache to avoid re-downloading the rest of this stuff?  I'd rather not burn through all my month's throughput in one day.09:51
majdoh yeah, and a windows mobile 5 pocket pc09:51
nboundmajd: depending on ur model of lexmark it will work09:52
arrickmajd, yu are up a creek without a paddle with ubunt09:52
monsterbEdgy_Eft: nvidia very easy to setup09:52
majdarrick: lol i know...it gets the job done though09:52
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arricknbound, good luck even with supported lexmark, I had to write my own driver for mine09:52
nboundmonsterb: unless u use real nvidia drivers... rather than the synaptic ones09:52
nboundarrick: i gave mine to my parents and bought an epson09:52
kupadBlueEagle: insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/pdc202xx_old.ko09:53
nboundwhich sucked coz i had to wait several months before i could visit home09:53
arrickhaha09:53
FlannelKingarrick: I got an error ;)09:53
BlueEaglekupad: ?09:53
monsterbnbound: the synaptic drivers work great09:53
kupadBlue: sorry09:53
BlueEagle:)09:53
majdarrick: how hard is it to write drivers?09:53
kupadBlue: insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/pdc202xx_old.ko': -1 File exists09:53
arrickthe submiterror, saying "you got an error" FlannelKing09:53
arrick?09:53
majdi might write one for windows mobile 509:53
nboundmonsterb: the nvidia ones, are faster and support the newer cards better and also newer stuff like GLX 1.409:54
FlannelKingarrick: aye. very descriptive ;)09:54
BlueEaglekupad: lsmod|grep pdc202xx09:54
arrickok thanks09:54
majdi want to make it synchronize to evolution09:54
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kupadblue: it's there09:54
BlueEaglekupad: ...and the line(s) read?09:54
monsterbnbound: true - im using a 5500 -09:55
Denpax: Did you see my reply in the private msg window?09:55
paxden, no.09:55
kupadblue: pdc202xx_old           10240  109:55
nboundmonsterb: really they arent that hard to setup as long as u know how to tell it to use gcc3.4 and get rid of some evil modules before installing it09:55
kupadide_core              125268  6 ide_disk,usb_storage,pdc202xx_old,ide_cd,ide_generic,piix09:55
Denpax: I see you, but can't send - nic not registered.09:55
Denpax: thx09:56
paxden, it's alright, jes wanted to share than page, maybe it will help. np :)09:56
BlueEaglekupad: Well, as far as I can tell that is the module that is supposed to handle that IDE controller. :/09:56
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BlueEaglekupad: just for kicks try this:09:56
BlueEaglekupad: sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/pdc202xx_new.ko09:56
LOLKJ09:57
BlueEaglekupad: then sudo fdisk -l09:57
kupadblue: no luck --- still not listed by fdisk09:57
LOLHI09:57
monsterbnbound: I've done it before when I needed the latest driver. My card is a aging 5500, so the deb version good enough for me. ;)09:58
BlueEaglekupad: Then the best suggestion I've got is to build your custom kernel and include that driver in the kernel and not as a module.09:58
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kupadblue: i appreciate the help, thank you.  I was planning of compiling the kernel regardless09:59
BlueEaglekupad: Well I hope that fixes your IDE controller. And you're most welcome. :)09:59
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monsterbarrick: u had to write your own Lexmark driver?10:01
heredeI'm looking for a dev package for MySQL (headers + libs), any ideas?10:02
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BlueEagle!info mysql-devel10:03
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BlueEagle!info mysql-dev10:03
FlannelKing!info libmysql12dev10:03
cyphasewow10:04
cyphasedapper beta is really lagging10:04
cyphaseor, i should say, media playing in dapper10:04
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heredebah, why is ubuto so slow today??!10:04
heredeubotu*10:04
BlueEagle!info mysql-common10:04
FlannelKingtoo much partying yesterday about the beta.10:05
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BlueEagleherede: libmysqlclient14-dev (for the client devel package)10:05
nbound!multimedia10:05
ubotuit has been said that multimedia is for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications10:05
PwcrLinuxyea, I wouldn't need a dapper beta, I rather wait till the dapper releases on june 1st10:05
nboundPwcrLinux: why not? its quite good10:06
BlueEagleherede: Actually it's listed as "mysql database development files"10:06
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cyphasePwcrLinux, i waited until beta to install it on my main machine10:06
PwcrLinuxnbound: I didn't want messed or freaked up on my lappy :)10:07
arrickyep10:07
arrickmonsterb, yep10:07
arrickx617010:08
nboundPwcrLinux: lol, its not in alpha anymore, beta applications are generally fairly much perfect... unless ur doin fiddly crap10:08
nboundthey iron out the bad stuff in the alpha releases10:08
FlannelKingor using eastern languages10:08
nboundFlannelKing: lol10:08
monsterbarrick: mine is a Z2210:08
FlannelKingno, seriously.  They were just put it10:08
FlannelKingthat was the big reason for the delay10:09
monsterbarrick: it prints poorly with cups driver10:09
Madpilotmonsterb, Lexmark Z22? I'm surprised it runs on Linux at all...10:09
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__mike__I've got a /var/cache/apt/archives full of updates and extra packages and i'm going to blank and reinstall my Ubuntu.  Is there any way to re-use these without having to re-download everything?10:10
nboundMadpilot: z22's run on liunx afaik10:10
PwcrLinuxnbound cyphase, does the beta have more options of synpatic mousepad?10:10
nboundjust dont give it an X1195 :P10:10
arrickyep10:10
monsterbarrick: when it does work, the aligmnt is off10:10
cyphasePwcrLinux, i don't know10:10
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nboundsynaptic mousepad?10:10
ubuntuhey, why wont gparted format to AF?10:11
PwcrLinuxnbound: yes on the sony lappy10:11
nboundPwcrLinux: u mean is it supported by dapper?10:11
nboundyour laptops mousepad?10:11
monsterbMadpilot: when it does work, the aligmnt is off10:11
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nboundif its supported in breezy it will work in dapper10:12
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captainredbeardis flash 8 available for linux yet?10:12
crimsunno.10:12
stjepan__mike__, make a backup of these archives10:12
MadpilotCaptainMorgan, no. Complain to Macromedia.10:12
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stjepan__mike__, and after reinstallation copy those archives back10:12
stjepan__mike__, and then install all those packages again :)] 10:12
PwcrLinuxnbound: yep, so my mousepad too much sententives (tappings) and I had to put the cover to preventing taps and uses a USB HID wheel mouse..10:13
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endgamerHi, everybody. Could someone check a point for me? I've updated to Dapper and my Palm Devices Configuration icon has disappeared from the menu - could someone check the name of the gnome-pilot configuration utility so I can call it from the command line? For the life of me I can't find it, not through locate or hand-scanning through the binary folders!10:13
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FlannelKingendgamer: you'll be better off asking in #ubuntu+110:14
stjepanendgamer, gpilotd-control-applet10:14
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stjepanendgamer, works?10:15
endgamerstjepan: Thankyou so much, lifesaver!10:15
endgamerYup, works fine.10:15
__mike__stjepan: So just copy 'em out of /var/cache/apt/archive, and then copy them right back in?  That's it?  No config stuff?10:15
endgamerCheers guys10:15
__mike__stjepan: Well, and reinstall, but.10:15
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stjepan__mike__, yeah... and dist-upgrade10:15
__mike__stjepan: Alright.  Thank you very much.10:16
stjepanthat's what I did10:16
stjepannp10:16
__mike__Thank you much to everyone who helped out tonight.  I appreciate it greatly.10:16
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nboundPwcrLinux: couldnt u just change the sensitivity in the options10:17
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nboundsystem > preferences > mouse10:17
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BeawolfeIs there a channel for Very NOOB info?10:18
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PwcrLinuxnbound: Breezy don't have extra options in preference > mouse10:19
BlueEaglebeawolfe: This would probably be it. :)10:19
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arrickI have this file and I want to install it, what do I do? pastebot-20040908.tar.gz10:20
BeawolfeWindows user trying out Linux base for first time and am lost as S**T10:20
arrickBeawolfe, what up?10:20
BlueEaglebeawolfe: What have you got so far then?10:20
stjepanarrick, tar -xzf pastebot*10:20
stjepancd pastebot10:20
arrickthanks10:20
stjepan./configure && make && make install10:20
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stjepanarrick, you should also have a look at checkinstall10:21
BeawolfeI got mail working...........found out how to get screensaver working...............and of course Office is the same as MS Word so......10:21
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Beawolfeother than that I am still hunting and pecking10:21
nboundPwcrLinux: there is an option for sensitivity10:22
MadpilotBeawolfe, sounds like you're doing OK. Have you found the Ubuntu wiki yet?10:22
nboundPwcrLinux: i know because i can change it on my other PC which still has breezy on it10:22
BeawolfeI am trying to set upfor newsgroups but have run into problems10:22
stjepanBeawolfe, don't worry, in one month you'll learn more than with windows in one year!10:22
arrickstjepan, I will, but I gotta get it installed first10:22
stjepanarrick, checkinstall is for installing10:23
PwcrLinuxnbound: Yea, it's full "low" doesn't effects at all..10:23
arrickoh ok10:23
stjepanarrick, before doing "make install" see checkinstall10:23
stjepancheckinstall will make a .deb package10:23
arrickok10:23
TraceGreenHello, lspci told me: pcilib: Cannot open /sys/bus/pci/devices, what can i do? I don't find /sys/bus/pci/devices in my system.10:23
BeawolfeI D/led BRAG and need files but can't seem to figure out how to install from desktop10:23
stjepanand then you should install it: dpkg -i yourpkg.deb ;10:23
stjepan;)10:23
arrickhow do I see checkinstall?10:23
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BlueEagletracegreen: sudo lspci10:23
BlueEagle?10:23
kupadBlueEagle: this is the output from lshw -C disk:  http://pastebin.com/67484610:24
TraceGreenBlueEagle, i use root.10:24
stjepanarrick, download it here: http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/files/deb/checkinstall_1.6.0-1_i386.deb10:24
arrickok got it10:24
stjepanarrick, install checkinstall: sudo dpkg -i checkinstall_1.6.0-1_i386.deb10:24
nboundPwcrLinux: also tryed moving the others to low10:24
monsterbWhat's the command to sync the clock?10:24
BeawolfeMadpilot...No I haven't found wiki yet10:24
MadpilotBeawolfe, brag is in Ubuntu's repositories - System menu -> Admin. -> Synaptic, then search for brag10:24
MadpilotBeawolfe, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation10:25
stjepanarrick, then do this: tar -xzf pastebot-20040908.tar.gz && cd pastebot-20040908 && ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall && sudo dpkg -i your_checkinstalled_package.deb10:25
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wooster1168monsterb, if you have ntp try ntpdate -b -u pool.ntp.org10:26
MadpilotBeawolfe, start here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto then read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto10:26
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PwcrLinuxnbound: already there, probably dapper might would have new extra option to disable tapping and other new stuff for the sytpantic mousepad control..10:26
monsterbwooster1168, thx10:26
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kameronhow do i disable the sound server at startup, without using the gui tool?10:27
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`Manuel`hi all10:27
`Manuel`anyone remember the command for edit boot scripts?10:27
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stjepan`Manuel`, bum?10:28
nboundPwcrLinux: doubtfull, i know i was having problems with my compag mouse pad... i just got used to position my hands so as not to accidently tap it10:28
BlueEagletracegreen: You are logged in as root? o.O10:28
`Manuel`no...10:28
BlueEaglekupad: ...and still no luck with fdisk -l?10:28
TraceGreenBlueEagle, yeah.10:28
BlueEagletracegreen: why?10:29
BlueEagletracegreen: Well never mind that.10:29
kupadBlueEagle:  I'm looking for the module now10:29
TraceGreenBlueEagle, the most important thing now is that I want to use lspci to check my hardware, but now i can not see anything but some numbers.10:29
BlueEaglekupad: sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/ide/pci/pdc202xx_old.ko10:29
Doati'm having problems installing the ati driver. sudo modprobe gives me "FATAL: Module fglrx not found." though i followed the instructions in ubuntu starter guide10:29
BlueEagletracegreen: custom kernel?10:29
TraceGreenBlueEagle, yeah.10:30
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BlueEagletracegreen: Did you include the PCI device name database?10:30
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kupadBlueEagle:  that's the same we tried last time10:30
FrogzooTraceGreen: running irc as root is to be strongly discouraged10:30
TraceGreenBlueEagle, what do you mean? do you mean i should config it in kernel?10:30
BlueEagletracegreen: yes.10:30
TraceGreenFrogzoo, i know.10:30
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Frogzoocool10:30
TraceGreenFrogzoo, actually, i just sudo su to do some work and then exit.10:31
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MadpilotTraceGreen, try "sudo -i"10:31
BlueEaglekupad: Well that is the one that I believe should handle that device. Then again I can be wrong.10:31
kupadBlueEagle:  do you think looking for a Seagate module might work? that's what i've been googling for10:32
BeawolfeI can see I am going to have to do alot of reading before I can get this stuff up and running :(10:32
arrickhey stjepan you last is not working10:32
TraceGreenBlueEagle, could you please tell me where shoud i set about pci database in kernel? i use kernel 2.6.14, i check .config whic "PCI", but don't find "database"10:32
arrickit says no ./comfigure found10:33
BlueEaglekupad: The device is a PDC20262 and it's a fairly old card hence the conclusion that pdc202xx_old should handle it.10:33
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BlueEagletracegreen: hang on.10:33
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nandemonaiGreetings people, just wondering how to get a program running at boot time (not a service just a single command from term) without using gnome session as this machine in question is cli only.. Can anyone point me in the right direction.. I used to know how to do this via a certain file in fedora / redhat but seems that debian doesnt use the same boot scripts... Any ideas?10:34
kupadBlueEagle:  that doesn't bode well for me10:34
BlueEaglekupad: as I said, building it into the kernel _might_ fix things.10:34
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sirverif i install a firewall for ubuntu, then DHCP server for local machines, will those machines need a firewall on ?10:35
arrickstjepan, help?10:35
kupadBlueEagle:  I know...i just thought the output from lshw might have helped...10:36
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BlueEagletracegreen: It should be named PCI Name database, but I think I was wrong to suggest that. THat databse is legacy and depreciated. Don't know what creates /sys. Was thinking udev but that doesn't make sense.10:36
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BlueEaglekupad: Well as long as fdisk can't see it then it doesn't really matter if other utils (using other access methods) can see it afaik.10:37
TraceGreenBlueEagle, anyway, thanks very much, i may google it more.10:37
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BlueEaglekupad: cat /etc/modules |grep pdc202xx_old   <= is it listed there?10:40
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kupadBlueEagle: it isn't10:41
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BlueEaglekupad: then add pdc202xx_old in a separate line in /etc/modules10:41
Eleafdoes anybody wanna play a 3d-multiplayer game? lol10:41
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BlueEaglekupad: and reboot. Not guaranteeing anything but loading it at boot time might also help.10:42
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BlueEaglekupad: (can't really see how that will help tho)10:42
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kupadBlueEagle: i'll give the reboot a try for tomorrow...right now, I'm gonna sleep on it10:44
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kupadBlueEagle: Good night, and thanks again.10:45
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yyhi everybody10:45
stjepanarrick, hey, u there?10:45
BeawolfeI see that Ubuntu has a newsreader called "Pan"...installed it but canrt find it in any menus now....now what?10:45
ghandihello all. I am trying to debug my program. when it segfaults, there is no core dump. why is this?10:46
ninjusBeawolfe, type "Pan" in konsole?10:46
ghandii need to debug with gdb but i have no core file10:46
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sphivoghandi: your ulimit is probably set to 0, try 'ulimit -c unlimited'10:47
Beawolfeokay...now where is the konsole?...like I said I am very NOOB to this OS10:47
sphivoer, core ulimit setting, i mean.10:47
monsterbEleaf: I'm still waiting for the AArmy update. When it come out, i'll b ready to play u. :)10:47
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Eleafhmm10:47
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DarkEDdoes anyone know about the error /dev/dsp: broken pipe?10:48
ghandisphivo: worked thanks a lot!10:48
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Eleafmonsterb, I don't have AA, are you planning on playing that game or do you have any other suggestions?10:48
BlueEagledarked: the dsp (digital sound processor) is busy or you have not got access to it.10:48
sphivoghandi: No problem10:48
DarkEDBlueEagle: Ok, this is what I get when running Quake. How can I get access to it?10:48
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PwcrLinuxGrrrrrrr, I hate the gaim popped up for ppls want to add me or authorizating, I kept denying on them... I had to log off the ICQ protocols for awhile..10:49
Beawolfeninjus....how do I get to konsole?10:49
monsterbEleaf: what FPS game do u have?10:49
DarkEDBlueEagle: I have already disabled the KDE sound system, so it's not blocking it10:49
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kameleonswhat is comand loged pasword for mi nick10:50
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BlueEagledarked: which method is quake attempting to use to produce sound?10:50
Eleafmonsterb, hmm, I should get some (relatively fresh dapper)  Which do you have?10:50
DarkEDBlueEagle: I would guess it would be OSS10:50
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DarkEDBlueEagle: since its older10:50
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DarkEDBlueEagle: I read something that told me to use this command: udo echo equake 0 0 direct > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss10:51
BlueEagledarked: hmm... Been to long since I've done that. Don't remember how to fix it.10:51
DarkEDBlueEagle: sudo* even10:51
kameleonshello10:51
blu3_chelp me pls10:51
kameleonsfor open movie on format .wmv10:51
DarkEDBlueEagle: so I did that and it gives me bash: /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss: Permission denied10:51
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kameleonswhat is progama requiered10:51
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DarkEDBlueEagle: ok, thanks10:51
BlueEagledarked: ls -l /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss10:51
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blu3_ci already install icewm, but i can't find in my window decoration10:52
monsterbEleaf: the only one I play is America's Army. Not many servers on 2.5 --- im waiting for 2.6 (only avail for windows right now)10:52
BlueEagledarked: see which group it has got and check that you are in that group10:52
FrogzooDarkED: sudo10:52
blu3_canyone, why?10:52
BlueEagledarked: you can also chmod a+rw on it10:52
Eleafhmm10:52
DarkEDBlueEagle: its marked for root10:52
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DarkEDyay it did it10:52
DarkEDlets see if it works :D10:52
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hajuuhey does anyone know in VLC how to set it to use esd? I downloaded vlc-plugin-esd.. but I still cant find the setting anywhere and it gives no output10:53
hajuu:(10:53
jitawhy is'nt there firefox 1.5.2 package?10:53
DarkED:)10:53
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BlueEagledarked: there you go.10:53
DarkEDoh... crap10:53
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[SIN] JudasHi can anyone possibly help me?10:53
DarkEDBlueEagle: Didnt work :D10:53
blu3_cpls help me10:53
DarkEDhmm lemme log into gnome and see what it does10:54
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monsterbEleaf: do u have broadband? AArmy is a free download.10:54
gnomefreakjita: same reason why there isnt a 1.5.0.1 package10:55
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gnomefreakubotu tell jita about ff1.510:55
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Eleafmonsterb, ye, I know.  Can I run it without having to do some evil global install?10:56
jitagnomefreak: i found 1.5.0.2 package in draper repo10:56
jita1.5.0.110:56
gnomefreakjita: yes its in dapper10:56
gnomefreakthis is not a dapper channel10:56
monsterbEleaf: Do u have a Nvidia card and drivers installed?10:56
gnomefreakeveryone in here is assumed to be running breezy10:56
Eleafmonsterb, yes..10:56
gnomefreak!dapper10:56
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)10:56
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Eleafmonsterb, I could download it, I just don't want to have to install anything globally, just run it in its nice little dir.. ;p10:57
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thejhello10:57
monsterbEleaf: download game and install it with "sh filename"10:58
EleafI have to install it?10:58
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monsterbEleaf: yes10:58
Eleafwhy?10:58
paxwhat's this AArmy, a game?10:58
MadpilotEleaf, um, because it's a program?10:58
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Madpilotpax, America's Army FPS10:59
paxgreat, that's all we need.10:59
EleafMadpilot, why would you have to 'install' something, that doesn't make sense to me... =/10:59
monsterbpax: it's a FPS army game10:59
EleafMadpilot, why can I not just run the binary?10:59
MadpilotEleaf, no idea, complain to the folks who make the thing11:00
Eleafand have it point to its own libs.11:00
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Eleafdoes it come with an uninstall script? xP11:00
MadpilotEleaf, it's a giant .bin file AFAIK, so it probably is static11:01
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monsterbEleaf: aarmy has a easy installer11:01
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PwcrLinuxAfaik?? what's that?11:01
Eleafmonsterb, huh?11:01
MadpilotPwcrLinux, "as far as I know"11:02
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PwcrLinuxah11:02
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DarkEDI got it working11:02
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DarkEDthanks for the help11:02
Beawolfecan anyone tell me how to get to the konsole so I can run an installed program?11:02
monsterbEleaf: are we talking about the same thing? lol11:02
EleafI guess... I dunno ;p11:02
monsterbEleaf: aarmy?11:03
MadpilotBeawolfe, Alt + F211:03
hajuuok so I do my lspci, and it now shows my soundblaster live... BUT it gives some "unknown header 7f" for the verbose information... how can I find out where that sound device is mounted or whatever? like where its accessible11:03
Eleafmmhm11:03
gnomefreakBeawolfe: applications>accessories>terminal11:03
MadpilotBeawolfe, or Applications->Accessories->Terminal if you want a full terminal11:03
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gnomefreakkonsole is for kde11:03
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paxwep11:04
homegrowntest11:04
Edgy_Efttest?11:04
paxtest failed11:04
gnomefreakfail11:04
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homegrownlooking to register my nick11:05
patrick24601any xgl pros?11:05
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Madpilot!tell homegrown about register11:05
monsterbmonstrous: just saying HI to a fellow monster11:05
sfar/msg nickserv identify pass11:05
sfarno11:05
patrick24601I am trying to install and I am this step 'sudo apt-get install compiz xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa xserver-xorg libglitz-glx1 compiz-gnome'11:05
homegrownTa11:05
sfarregister11:05
sfar:|11:05
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sfari'll shut up11:05
monstrousmonsterb: *raaaaaaaaaaaw* hi back11:05
Madpilotpatrick24601, #ubuntu-xgl11:05
gnomefreakpatrick24601: try #ubuntu-xgl11:05
patrick24601thanks11:05
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monsterbmonstrous: lol11:06
patrick24601did not know there was a chan just for that.11:06
stephen_bankspatrocl24601; have you got the universe package repositories enabled?11:06
stephen_bankssorry, spelt your name wrong, its too early in the morning for me11:06
patrick24601stephen: I believe I do11:06
patrick24601cant find compiz though11:07
stephen_bankspatrick24601: okee11:07
Madpilotpatrick24601, if you're running Dapper, there's also #ubuntu+1 for Dapper11:07
gnomefreakpatrick24601: compiz-gnome?11:07
patrick24601yeah... came from here : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13126711:07
gnomefreakubotu tell patrick24601 about xgl11:07
monsterbAnyone here try Gentoo?11:08
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gnomefreakmonsterb: try #gentoo11:08
Edgy_Eftone time11:08
Cyri1me too11:09
Cyri1it's cool!11:09
HedgeMagemonsterb: I don't think other distros are on-topic in here, but if you're looking for a comparison or something distrowatch is a good place to see different ones side by side.11:09
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Edgy_Eftmonsterb, i dont want to study how to compile a gentoo kernel and to install a gentoo11:10
Cyri1Edgy_Eft: where are you from?11:10
monsterbHedgeMage: just asking...I tried it last week, i'm back on Ubuntu now11:10
Edgy_Eftsystem11:10
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gnomefreakCyri1: please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic11:10
Edgy_EftCyri1, south germany11:10
fidso here is a question... on i accident I removed the panel that displays all the programs running.  How do I bring that panel back?11:10
nbound!multimedia11:10
ubotumethinks multimedia is for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications11:10
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Cyri1Edgy_Eft: no, i mean where your country is...:D11:11
gnomefreakfid: right click add panel11:11
arrickhow do i change the password to my ssh connection?11:11
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Eleafarrick, eh?11:11
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HedgeMagemonsterb: I run both ubuntu and gentoo right now :)11:11
MadpilotCyri1, #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat, please11:11
Eleafarrick, the password is whatever the password is for that user.11:11
fidand that will show the programs running in what would to compare to be the windows task bar?11:11
arrickwell how do I change that?11:11
Revolutiondoes anyone know how to enable surround sopund in dapper?11:12
Revolutionsound11:12
Eleafarrick, your user password?  Probably System->Administration->Users and groups11:12
arrickthrough terminal?11:12
gnomefreakCyri1: Edgy_Eft bring it to #ubuntu-offtopic11:12
Edgy_EftCyri1, mh...between france and poland? and between denmark and swiss? :)11:12
arrickI dont have a gui11:12
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Madpilotfid, right-click on the panel, choose Add To Panel - find the Window List applet11:12
stephen_banksRevolution: i always just mess about in alsamixer until it does work!11:12
roryyarrick: 'passwd'11:12
bhna!root11:12
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.11:12
arrickthanks11:12
monsterbHedgeMage: I'm sticking with Ubuntu11:13
MadpilotEdgy_Eft, social chat on #ubuntu-offtopic please, not here11:13
roryyarrick: i recommend using a key-files for ssh; can be considerably more convenient11:13
Cyri1Edgy_Eft: good...i am from Taiwan~:D11:13
arrickroryy, dont understand you technical terms11:13
fidyay11:13
fidgot it11:13
fidthanks yo11:13
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gnomefreakubotu tell Edgy_Eft -about offtopic11:14
Madpilotweee11:14
thatGuy_lol11:14
thatGuy_right11:14
nboundnet split11:14
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nboundand theres still 551 people in here after that11:14
zOrKEven I doesnt have more blood than an netsplit11:14
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arrickthat was FUUUUNNNN lets do it again, shall we?11:15
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C-O-L-Thow to add other theme to gaim, where is that guification menu?11:15
stephen_banks0.011:15
zOrKamazing11:15
arrickwhat the server went down or something?11:15
Madpilotarrick, be careful what you wish for :P11:15
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Madpilotarrick, one server lost connection11:15
roryy!tell arrick about ssh11:16
monsterbWhere's the flood?11:16
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C-O-L-T how to add other theme to gaim, where is that guification menu?11:16
roryyarrick: the wiki page contains info about public key authentication11:16
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arrickok11:16
arricknight all11:16
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Beawolfemadpilot....THANX!!! I got it running finally!11:17
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fidsweet my customized theme is coming along swimmingly11:18
fidha11:18
nboundwell for anyone who was wondering the w32codecs do work in dapper11:18
MadpilotBeawolfe, cool11:18
paxno kidding!11:18
nboundi just hadnt switched over to totem-xine yet11:18
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Beawolfenow for my next question..........is there a way to move files and see files between the to drives.....ubuntu and winxp?11:20
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stephen_bankssudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hd* /mountpoint11:20
MadpilotBeawolfe, NTFS is read-only in Linux - MS won't tell anyone else how to write to it...11:21
Madpilot!+ntfs11:21
ubotusomebody said ntfs was the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions11:21
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ozzloyBeawolfe: yes you can see the files by mounting using the mount command11:22
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Madpilotnight all11:23
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Beawolfeokay thanx again I found the info I needed to mount the drives11:24
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paxif you use xp as home desktop, have no use for quotas or ntsf permissions, then make you windows partitions fat32 and make your linux experience more pleasant by reading/writing to your windows partition from within linux11:25
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monsterbBeawolfe: I have a FAT32 partition I store and swap files with ubuntu and windows.11:25
paxbetter yet, if you have a windows and ubuntu machine, rdp to your windows from ubuntu and now you are on both machines.11:26
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matteshallo11:26
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PwcrLinuxcya later all, off to Zzzzzz11:27
matteswelche systemvorraussetzung ist fr ubuntu notwendig?11:27
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BeawolfeI have each OS on different HD's and right now win XP wont see ubuntu and ubuntu wont see the win xp drive11:28
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monsterbBeawolfe: what filesystem are you using? Ext3? If you want to view/write files to linux from windows, try this program http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/%7Ejn/linux/explore2fs.htm11:28
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C-O-L-Thow to make a bar like in Apple MAC OS X, so the dock bar11:30
Beawolfeokay monsterb will look it over....Thanx!11:30
mattesubuntu 5.10 don't restart when i type the keys "strg" + "alt" + "del". it shutdown11:30
matteswhat is the problem?11:31
monsterbBeawolfe: your harddrives list in /media ?11:31
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gnomefreakHedgeMage: you here still?11:31
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thatGuy_i have to tackle this ndiswrapper problem right now11:32
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Beawolfemonsterb......2 cd-roms and 2 floppys only I think11:33
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HedgeMagegnomefreak: kinda11:34
HedgeMagegnomefreak: what's up?11:34
monsterbBeawolfe: u need to edit fstab and add your harddrives11:34
gnomefreakHedgeMage: was there a second netsplit?11:34
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gnomefreaknickserv un-identified me :(11:34
Pizarrinhello, I want to try the released livecd, but I don't know the username and password to login11:35
HedgeMagegnomefreak: the last netsplit was abotu 20 minutes ago11:35
gnomefreakyeah i saw that one :(11:35
stephen_bankspizarrin: does it not just log you in automatically?11:35
Beawolfeand how do I go about doing that monsterb11:35
gnomefreakPizarrin: this is dapper cd?11:36
FrogzooC-O-L-T: try gnome-applets11:36
Pizarrinyes, xubuntu 6.06 beta11:36
FrogzooCoke: sry, gdesklets11:36
C-O-L-TFrogzoo: I am there, I just don't know it's name11:36
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gnomefreakPizarrin: #ubuntu+1 for dapper help please11:36
monsterbBeawolfe: this site helped me...http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html11:36
Pizarrinsorry, thanks11:37
thatGuy_Berge, here is where i did it from11:37
FrogzooC-O-L-T: there's screenies about, google 'screenshots gdesklets'11:37
thatGuy_beasty_, here is where i did it from11:37
thatGuy_lol first time trying this11:37
thatGuy_Beawolfe, here is where i did it from11:37
thatGuy_Beawolfe, http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows11:37
thatGuy_full instructions11:37
gnomefreakthatGuy_: no dont every recommend that please11:37
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gnomefreak!ubuntuguide11:38
ubotuwell, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead11:38
thatGuy_why?11:38
gnomefreak^^^11:38
thatGuy_it worked perfect for me11:38
thatGuy_ahh11:38
thatGuy_hmm, well i know that worked11:38
gnomefreakthatGuy_: just because something works fine for one person doesnt mean it will for another11:38
thatGuy_and i'm on dapper drake 6.0611:38
C-O-L-TFrogzoo: thanks I have got it11:38
thatGuy_alrighty11:38
Frogzoonice11:38
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Beawolfeokay Thanx11:39
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thatGuy_but yeah, its instructions on the whole fstab thing11:39
thatGuy_line for line11:39
thatGuy_that'll set it up to mount automatically on boot. . . and how to do it manually11:40
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DimeCan someone help me?11:41
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roryyDime: please tell us what your problem is.11:42
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Dimei have a fresh install of ubuntu 5.1011:42
Dimeand i would like to share files between the winxp machine in my home and ubuntu11:42
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imactest1Does anyone here know how to change the screen position in the monitor, the width etcetera11:42
imactest1things you normally do with manual buttons on the screen11:43
imactest1but a mac doesnt have those11:43
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roryy!tell Dime about samba11:43
imactest1so i need a software tool to do it11:43
imactest1help!!11:43
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roryyDime: ubotu should just have sent you some links about 'samba', software which will allow you to do that11:44
Edgy_Eftyou have a mac and use ubuntu?11:44
imactest1yz11:44
imactest1ubuntu PPC11:44
imactest1its an old G3 so its useless bcoz it wont run OSX11:44
Edgy_Eftah ok11:44
imactest1w/ linux i can run normal stuff like xmms and firefox etc11:45
imactest1i just cant resize the screen11:45
imactest1without a software tool11:45
imactest1reposition it11:45
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imactest1i remember there was this old X tool that let you shift it around11:46
gnomefreakimactest1: you mean resolution or position of screen if position of screen the settings should be on the moniter (is with everything else should be with mac too) but not positive11:46
imactest1but i cant remember what it as11:46
imactest1or the command to start it11:46
imactest1i googled for ages11:46
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imactest1no i mean position as in the vertical and horizontal size, placement and such11:47
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imactest1on a regular PC you can change that with buttons on the screen11:47
rabehave 5.1 soundsystem, followed this tutorial: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Surround_Sound, finnaly managed to have sound from 4 speakers (of 6), but the 2 rear don't work! Any idea why??11:47
imactest1and with macos you have a softwaretool with settings to do it11:47
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imactest1but with linux i dunno11:47
bliss1_hi11:47
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davidhousehi guys. having big troubles configuring my local wireless network connection on my kubuntu laptop.11:47
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barosl[[test] ] 11:47
Frogzooimactest1: think you mean xvidtune - you need to then export these settings to xorg.conf11:47
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davidhouseKWifiManager thinks it's connected to the network, but i still have an empty routing table and obviously all outgoing requests fail.11:48
imactest1yz that's it!!11:48
Edgy_Efti dont know a software tool11:48
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imactest1i've been searching it for ages11:48
imactest1tnx11:48
HClhi, might anyone be able to help with my compaq r3000? yesterday i upgraded from ubuntu breezy to ubuntu dapper and since then the button to turn wireless on/off (this is supposed to be a hardware button) is stuck to off and refuses to respond..11:48
falcon3Hi, is it possible to disable my sound when my headset is plugged in? (automatically)11:48
Edgy_Eftjust configure /etc/X11/xorg.config imactest111:48
rabehave 5.1 soundsystem, followed this tutorial: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Surround_Sound, finnaly managed to have sound from 4 speakers (of 6), but the 2 rear don't work! Any idea why??11:49
FrogzooHCl: -> #ubuntu+111:49
davidhousei'm meant to be connected to my router which has IP 192.168.1.100, but pinging that fails.11:49
imactest1yz i know i have to export the settings i find w/ xvidtune to the x config file11:49
imactest1tnx for the help11:49
imactest1bbl11:49
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HClthanks11:49
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davidhousealso, KWifiManager says "Local IP: unavailable", so i don't think it's connected properly.11:49
davidhousei've definately got the right encryption configuration.11:50
falcon3installing kde3.5 is not a problem on ubuntu ?11:50
gnomefreakfalcon3: no11:50
sfar"''""   ""' ' ' ' ' ' '   '  '' ''''''''''''''''''""""""""""""""""""""""""'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''""'"'"'"'"'"11:50
gnomefreakfalcon3: what version of ubuntu are you using11:50
gnomefreaksfar: please dont do that11:50
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falcon3gnomefreak: ubuntu breezy11:50
gnomefreakubotu tell falcon3 about easysource11:50
kameroni know you can dist-upgrade to dapper.. but from dapper, can you do something similar, but opposite? as in, downgrade?11:50
Frogzookameron: nope, no downgrades11:51
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falcon3thank you gnomefreak11:51
kamerondanggg11:51
kamerondoes anyone have mythtv working on dapper?11:51
sfarease up gnomefreak11:51
gnomefreakfalcon3: in your pm open link click on the kubuntu repos and send than add those to your /etc/apt/sources.list and run sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:51
gnomefreaksfar: i asked you not to do that there is nothing to ease up on you have been in here long enough to know not to do that11:52
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bliss1_Frogzoo: heres something maks a file in /etc/udev.rules.d/ called cutom.rules and stick this in it KERNEL=="tun", NAME="net/%k"11:53
falcon3"the latest kde version" known by kubuntu or the real latest version?11:53
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hovvin?11:54
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hovvin11:54
sfarwell, it was a mistake pasting that into the channel.. your whine was exactly as many lines as my mistake (1 line) and therefor as much spam..11:54
bliss1_Frogzoo: then KERNEL=="tun", GROUP="admin", MODE="0660" and KERNEL=="kqemu", MODE="0666" on two sperate lines11:54
roryy!zh11:55
ubotuFor support in Chinese, please try the channel #ubuntu-zh.11:55
roryyi hope that *is* Chinese.  And we should really get a chinese-language redirect, too.11:55
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slackernni hao? ^^11:55
jang_Hi all! Anyone have experience with running VMWare under Ubuntu?11:56
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hovvin11:56
fidhow can you tell which theme you currenty have running?11:56
baroslroryy, i guess it's impossible. program cannot distinguish chinese and korean and japanese11:56
roryyfid: System -> Preferences -> Theme   would be my guess11:56
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hovvinhi..11:57
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baroslhovvin, hi :->11:57
falcon3# kubuntu.org packages for the latest KDE version (packages, GPG key: DD4D5088)11:57
falcon3deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest breezy main11:57
falcon3# kubuntu.org packages for the latest KDE version (sources, GPG key: DD4D5088)11:57
falcon3deb-src http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest breezy main11:57
taranhello guys11:57
bliss1_jang_ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VmWare11:57
falcon3it cant find these packages11:57
hovvinhow can i restart the xwindow?11:57
stephen_banksctrl alt backspace11:57
hovvinhow can i restart the xwindow?11:57
tarani am trying to lunch something but it gives me this error11:57
hovvin:)11:57
hovvinths11:57
jang_Thanks blissl_11:57
taranMissing dump prefix.11:57
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monsterbjang_, I ran Ubuntu on VMWare on windows. It ran slow but worked.11:58
hovvinhow can i use the xwindow in root?11:58
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taranany help is welcome11:58
taranMissing dump prefix.11:58
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kameronwhat about downgrading a single package, is that possible?11:59
roryytaran: Please give us a little more detail. What program are you trying to start?11:59
taranairodump11:59
taranbut it gives Missing dump prefix.11:59
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jang_monsterb: any theory on why it was slow? Low on mem?11:59
stephen_banksoh by the way, bit of an obscure question, but has anyone got a ms intellimouse explorer and managed to get the side scrolling tilt wheel to work in linux?12:00
Oetzihi12:00
sfartaran: have you read the INSTALL-file?12:00
Oetzihow can i import own truetype-fonts into ooffice12:00
taranyep12:00
taranand install was cuul12:01
taranbut lunching is giving me a hell12:01
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monsterbI have a AMD64 with 1.5GB mem .... the only Linux that ran good for me was DSL on VMWare12:01
kameron!mythtv12:01
stephen_banksOetzi: i think you can import the fonts globally by navigating to Fonts:/// in nautilus12:01
ubotumethinks mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/12:01
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Oetzistephen_banks: thx12:02
tarani'm really newbie in ubuntu platform12:02
monsterbjang_, I have a AMD64 with 1.5GB mem .... the only Linux that ran good for me was DSL on VMWare12:02
barosl[[RestrictedFormats] ] 12:02
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barosl[[RestrictedFormats] ] 12:02
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fidhmmm12:03
barosl[[RestrictedFormats] ] 12:03
inklbot^home[RestriktedFormats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:03
Frogzoomonsterb: that makes no sense12:04
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monsterbFrogzoo: sorry.  DawnSmallLinux ran the fastest for me on VMWare.12:05
Frogzoomonsterb: something wrong there12:05
inklbot^home[RestriktedFormats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:06
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falcon3The following packages have unmet dependencies: kde: Depends: kdesdk but it is not going to be installed12:06
falcon3E: Broken packages12:06
falcon3how do i fix that ?12:06
monsterbFrogzoo: I ran Ubuntu with VMware, but it was lagging.12:07
Frogzoomonsterb: sure, but ubuntu native should be faster than dsl on vmware12:07
gnomefreakfalcon3: sudo apt-get -f install    <<type that exactly as i have12:07
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falcon3gnomefreak: same error12:08
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monsterbFrogzoo: it is - u missed the 1st part of the conversation12:08
Frogzoomonsterb: also, did you allocate ubuntu extra ram? like 512?12:08
gnomefreakfalcon3: sudo apt-get update12:09
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jang_blissl_ Thanks. I am up and running now.12:09
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falcon3gnomefreak: still the same12:09
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tuxhi12:09
fidhrmm ok so quick question12:09
tuxhello12:09
gnomefreakfalcon3: apt-get update gave you unmet depends error?12:09
bliss1_jang_ glad to here it that was quick12:09
bliss1_hear12:10
dmizerokay ... i have a real problem.  i can't sudo at all.  all i get is "timestamp too far in the future"12:10
falcon3gnomefreak: no, that was fine, trying to install it gave me depends error again12:10
gnomefreakfalcon3: run sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop12:10
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fidtrying to copy some .png files into the /usr/share/icons/gnome/filesystem/   so i can replace the normal gnome 'trash' icon12:10
fidbut its saying I do not have the permissions12:10
falcon3downloading, now gnomefreak thx12:10
fiddo i have to do that from the terminal12:10
falcon3what is aptitude?12:11
roryydmizer: try 'sudo -K' first12:11
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Frogzoofalcon3: man aptitude12:11
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falcon3oh12:12
falcon3apt but fancier12:12
dmizeri did ... but i get the same problem, but maybe i'm just having a usage problem ... it's sudo -K (pipe) command?12:12
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roryydmizer: no, 'sudo -K' releases your timestamp12:12
roryyremoves, rather12:12
roryydmizer: i.e., 'sudo -K'  then 'sudo <whatever>'12:12
tarani've got it guys12:12
tarantnx for ur help12:13
dmizeri tried that already.  but then i get usage error ...12:13
gnomefreakfalcon3: aptitude handles packages better than apt-get12:13
goonieI have a weird problem with my cd drive... It sometimes shows nothing, sometimes a few files and sometimes some files with gibberish filenames. But I'm running Windows XP in VMWare as well and the XP reads and lists the cds correctly... Have you guys seen this before?12:13
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roryydmizer: 'sudo -K' gives you a usage error ?12:13
Toma-goonie: are they multi-format or multi session cds?12:14
protocol1!dapper12:14
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)12:14
gnomefreaksorry for not answering sooner im trying to update my wiki12:14
dmizeryes ... "sudo -K | -L | -V | ...12:14
roryydmizer: run just 'sudo -K'12:14
dmizertried that too.12:14
goonieToma-~ no, I tried burning one especially for this and finalized it and still it works like this12:14
dmizerlol12:14
roryydmizer: and does *that* give you a usage error?12:15
bliss1_Frogzoo: just winserver on qemu with kqemu looks ok12:15
Toma-goonie: hmmm. bizarre.12:15
bliss1_just got12:15
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dmizeryes ... same one.12:15
monsterbdmizer, a quick fix -- unistall sudo --- and reinstall it :)12:15
roryydmizer: what version of ubuntu are you using ?12:15
dmizerbreezy with a network install.12:15
fidwhats the command to just rename a file from the terminal?12:16
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goonieToma-~ there's a screenshot of it here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16359112:16
roryydmizer: i do not understand how 'sudo -K' can give a usage error; either we are miscommunicating, or something is very wrong with your system12:16
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gnomefreakfid: you can use mv <<<has no backup or cp <<keeps old version as well  but you would cp /path/to/file.whatever /path/newname12:17
monsterbfid: "mv" command is move or rename12:18
dmizerroryy: give me a sec and i'll type the whole error.12:18
monsterbfid: mv file1 file212:18
gnomefreakmonsterb: cp renames also12:18
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roryydmizer: not in the channel12:18
dmizerokay.12:18
roryydmizer: use a pastebin, or use #flood (warn me first)12:18
gnomefreakif he messes up with mv hes not gonna be happy if it was important12:19
protocol1whats the latest working kernel fir breezy?12:19
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protocol1fir*12:19
Dimehmm12:19
protocol1for*12:19
Dimehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba12:19
Dimei went to that site12:19
Dimedid what it said12:19
Dimebut samba gave me errors?12:19
monsterbgnomefreak: cp ?  what option to rename?12:19
Dimewould 5.04 and 5.10 be the same ?12:19
Dimesamba wise?12:20
dmizerroryy: how about a link?12:20
roryydmizer: for the pastebin? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:20
dmizerthank you.12:20
protocol1and how do I go about checking which kernel version I have via console?12:20
roryyDime: should be similar, at least12:20
Dimei dunno im gonna restart12:21
Dimeand see if it changes it12:21
roryyrestart ubuntu?12:21
Dimeyes12:21
roryywell, you can try; i doubt it will change too much12:21
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roryydmizer: what is the output of 'sudo -V' ? (should be just one line)12:21
gnomefreakprotocol1: uname -a12:22
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gnomefreakprotocol1: uname -r will give you les output but will give you kernel also12:22
dmizerroryy: sudo verson 1.6.8p912:22
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roryydmizer: well, at least that is correct12:23
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rabehello, how to show ALL drives/devices (HDs, partitions, CDroms, floppy, etc...)?12:23
gnomefreakrabe: places>my computer?12:23
roryydmizer: let us know the link once you've submitted your data12:23
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protocol1my kernel version is 2.6.12-10-686   is that the latest one out for breezy?12:24
rabegnomefreak, i mean with properties, like hdd1 and so on (all mounted drives)12:24
starzingerprotocol1: I think so12:24
gnomefreakprotocol1: yes12:24
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dmizerroryy: will do.12:24
protocol1ok...cool12:24
starzingerrabe: in a console, write "df"12:24
rabeok thanks12:25
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gnomefreakprotocol1: easiest way to check in sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:25
Frogzooprotocol1: yes12:25
rabebut how do i know WHICH is my CDrom drive (s)?12:25
bliss1_if i use the modprobe command and I want to see the log or output is this possible12:25
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rabebecause it's not hdc12:25
starzingerrabe: is it mounted?12:25
roryyrabe: try 'ls -l /dev/cdrom'12:26
starzingerif so, then it should be mounted at /media/crdom or something equivalent12:26
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protocol1gnomefreak, ill try that12:26
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roryybliss1_: tried 'modprobe -v ...' ?12:26
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raberorry, i have 2 cd drives, so which is it?12:27
gnomefreakrabe: places>computer gives you a gui of your disks12:27
gnomefreakalot easier to understand12:27
rabeyes, but NO things like "hda"12:27
roryyrabe: hrm. sorry, that I'm not sure about.  I guess put a disk in the one, run 'mount' to see which one is mounted (assuming auto-mount works); then put a disk in the other, and rerun mount.12:28
gnomefreakrabe: if hda isnt mounted nothing is going to show it12:28
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bliss1_roryy; tried that just returned to prompt12:28
rabeok will try with the cd12:28
roryyrabe: try also 'cat /etc/fstab' -- shows links from /media/* to the cd devices12:29
[nige] anyone have a repository list for firefox 1.0.512:29
[nige] or the latest version of it?12:29
Frogzoo!ff1.512:29
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion12:29
starzingerIt's just stupid windows that shows devices when there's nothing in them :)12:29
dmizerroryy: pastebin ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1272012:29
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[nige] !mplayer-plugin12:29
ubotu[nige] : Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:29
gnomefreakubotu tell [nige]  about mplayer12:30
roryybliss1_: I'm not sure what you want; you'd need to use the -v with the command.  maybe there's something in /var/log/dmesg or /var/log/messages ?12:30
rabegnomefreak, even if i insert a cd in the drive, it's automatically mounted but it's NOT shown WHICH drives/partition  it is (like "hda" for ex.)12:30
roryydmizer: no12:30
roryydmizer: run *just*  sudo -K, i.e. ,     'sudo -K<enter>'12:31
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dmizerah.12:31
roryydmizer: then try your sudo command again12:31
dmizerlol12:31
gnomefreakrabe: i dont think cdroms are named that way normally its like cdrom0 or cdrom112:31
raberorry, that did it12:31
rabethey are called hda and hdb12:31
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roryydmizer: changing dates/times is a good way to get sudo confused about timestamps (perhaps that is obvious)12:31
dmizerroryy: it won't let me do that either.  timstamp too far in the future.12:31
roryydmizer: 'sudo -K<enter>' doesn't work?12:31
dmizernope.12:32
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gnomefreakmount*12:32
starzingerroryy and dmizer: I had that problem a while ago12:32
roryyrabe: guess you have SATA for your hard-drives?12:32
bimberirabe: 'df' (once it's mounted) will tell you12:32
starzingerI just waited12:32
roryydmizer: open a new gnome-terminal12:32
roryydmizer: try 'sudo ls' there12:32
rabegnomefreak: dev/hda for the cd altough it's in gnomefreak (mounted)12:32
rabegnomefreak: dev/hda for the cd altough it's in  /media/cdrom1  (mounted)12:32
gnomefreakahhh ok12:33
dmizerroryy: ? ... why did that work?12:33
raberoryy, don't know :-)12:33
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bimberi/dev/hda is the device, /media/cdrom1 is the mountpoint12:33
roryydmizer: a sudo timestamp is associated with a particular 'terminal'12:33
rabebimberi: df didn't tell me :-(12:33
dmizerroryy: so i just shut the terminal off and don't worry about the timestamp issue anymore?12:34
roryydmizer: yip12:34
dmizermy hero12:34
roryydmizer: gnome-terminals are free12:34
bimberirabe: hm  *grabs a cd*12:34
rabebimberi i did12:34
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dmizerroryy: indeed they are.  thank you very much.12:34
roryynp12:35
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rabebut i found with fstab and the "eject cdrom0" for example ejects the cdrom, so i know which it is ( i have 2 cdrom drives)12:35
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cpl-tnt900hi ! im new to ubuntu are there any guides for linux there ?12:36
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Frogzoo!docs12:36
ubotusomebody said docs was an index of documentation on the Ubuntu Wiki - you can find it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation12:36
gnomefreak!ubuntu12:36
ubotumethinks ubuntu is a free GNU/Linux distribution. More at http://www.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth12:36
bimberirabe: df shows me (for example) "/dev/hdc                639902    639902         0 100% /media/cdrom0" once the cd is mounted12:36
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cpl-tnt900thanks !!!12:36
HymnToLiferabe> then you should have cdrom0 and cdrom112:36
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rabebimberi: strange but no, it's not shown on "df"12:39
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rabeand how to remove these information that users leave or enter in Xchat?12:40
starzingerrabe: pm me12:40
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kaurhi i am using dapper beta and i'm having a problem with my networ. I can see and activate ethernet connection after running 'modprobe 8139too' in terminal. Only after a restart i have to do it again. How can i make this thing automatic?12:41
gnomefreakkaur: #ubuntu+1 for dapper please12:41
rabestarzinger: i have now, right?12:41
roryykaur: on breezy, you would just add the line '8139too' to the file /etc/modules ; i suspect dapper is similar12:41
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starzingerah crap, need to register12:42
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starzingerrabe: join #rabe12:42
starzingertoo much spam in here :)12:42
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kauri'll try12:43
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protocol1hello peeps12:47
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MattMcFarlandhey guys12:47
MattMcFarlandI updated to dapper12:47
MattMcFarlandand now my PCMCIA service will not start12:47
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gnomefreakMattMcFarland: join #ubuntu+1 for dapper please12:47
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ArafangionWhy is ubuntu's lilo support so crap?12:48
roryythere seem to be more leave/join messages than usual12:48
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Arafangionroryy: No, just less chat :)12:48
cpl-tnt900i want to learn "hacking" in ubunto (for checking Local network security only ! ) where can i learn it ?12:49
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roryycpl-tnt900: nmap and ethereal should get you started12:50
Arafangioncpl-tnt900: All elite programmers are hackers.12:50
Arafangioncpl-tnt900: If you want to use the term "hack", use it CORRECTLY.12:50
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stjepanhi12:52
stjepanI installed Seveas fglrx drivers, restarted X and fglrxinfo says it's using Mesa indirect rendering :(( what's wrong?12:52
stjepanI have not installed linux-38612:52
stjepanlinux-headers-386 are installed12:52
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BlueEaglestjepan: Which driver is set up in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?12:54
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martynfirefox keeps clocsing on certian sites i go to i think it may be a falsh problem any 1 got any ideas12:55
stjepanBlueEagle, fglrx12:55
BlueEaglemartyn: it might be an idea to try those sites using a different browser?12:55
BlueEaglestjepan: what does the error log of X say?12:56
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martynBlueEagle: what browser do you sugest12:56
BlueEaglestjepan: have you run opengl-update12:56
Killazhow can I see which package of apache is installed?12:56
BlueEaglemartyn: opera (http://www.opera.com)12:56
stjepanBlueEagle, no12:56
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BlueEaglestjepan: Not sure if that applies to Ubuntu. I know Gentoo had a tool like that.12:57
stjepanBlueEagle, bash: opengl-update: command not found12:57
ArafangionWhy is ubuntu's lilo support so crap?12:57
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martynBlueEagle: is that what u use12:57
BlueEaglearafangion: I think lilo is less supported because grub is concidered to be the better boot loader.12:58
stjepanhttp://richiejp.wordpress.com/files/2006/02/cubedesk2.png - pretty nice, but useless, don't you think? :)12:58
BlueEaglemartyn: yes.12:58
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ArafangionBlueEagle: grub is incapable of booting a pure LVM-based system.12:58
paxI need some dunkin' donuts coffee!12:58
ArafangionBlueEagle: In addition, grub is very limited in that it needs to be able to actually read the partition, unlike lilo.12:59
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er4z0rre01:00
ArafangionBlueEagle: Though, in hindsight, I should've made a small boot and root partition, then made the rest of the system LVM.01:00
Killazwhere is the log file of apt-get? I wish to see which version of apache I installed....01:00
stjepanSeveas, you there?01:00
BlueEaglearafangion: That is true.01:00
Killazcause it seems that php5 is trying to install apache2 ..... but I think that apache is already installed and running01:00
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ArafangionBlueEagle: But for as long as the installer has an option to do the entire thing in LVM, lilo support really must be better.01:01
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martynBlueEagle: ok i have downloaded that put in my home folder and tried to install ve: sudo bash then the name of the file it wont run just get errors01:02
fidwhats the best way to uninstall xmms?01:02
hajuuapt-get remove xmms ?01:02
hajuu:/01:02
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fidthanks01:02
fidits being all stupid01:02
fidgonna try to remove and fresh install01:03
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stjepanBlueEagle, there' a "(WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering not yet supported on Radeon 9500 and newer cards01:03
stjepan" line in /etc/Xorg.0.log!!01:03
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Arafangionstjepan: Probably means you do not have hardware accelerated graphics.01:04
Arafangionstjepan: Give the commercial drivers a go.01:04
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hajuuyay finally got my apt sources under control lol01:04
stjepanArafangi2n, no, I'm using fglr01:04
stjepanfglrx*01:04
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stjepanbut I don't know why it wants to use the radeon driver??01:05
hajuuHow can I perminently disable my eth0 interface?01:05
Arafangionstjepan: Any particular reason?01:05
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stjepanArafangion, for what?01:05
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roryystjepan: doesn't fglrx refer to the ati drivers?01:05
roryystjepan: do you have an nvidia card?01:05
fidhrmm01:05
fidthat didn't remove it at all really01:05
Arafangionroryy: Yes, fglrx refers to ati.01:05
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fidwell i reinstalled xmms and the old playlist and everything was still there01:06
Arafangionstjepan: Are you using the free drivers, or the ATI drivers?01:06
stjepanroryy, no, ATI Radeon 960001:06
stjepanArafangi2n, ati drivers, fglrx01:06
stjepanjust a moment... I'll restart x01:06
Arafangionstjepan: Give the free version a go, then.01:06
fidanyone know why xmms will go back to the default skin after it switches songs?01:07
blu3_chelp me01:07
blu3_chelp me01:07
blu3_chelp01:07
Arafangionblu3_c: Right now you're asking for a ban.01:07
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stjepanhi again01:07
cappizoooo01:07
stjepanworks now :)01:07
Arafangionstjepan: Nice :)01:07
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Arafangionstjepan: If it's a laptop, I would check to see if standby and hibernation work.01:08
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blu3_ci've trouble with icewm01:08
Arafangion!ask01:08
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.01:08
stjepanbut there are random lockups :((((((01:08
fidgrrrrr!!!01:08
Arafangionstjepan: Give the free version a go, then.01:08
stamen81hi01:08
fidxmms is being retarded01:08
fidhaha01:08
stjepanArafangion, it's not a laptop01:08
stjepanArafangi2n, it's free01:08
blu3_ci've installed icewm, but ican not find in window decoration why?01:08
Arafangionstjepan: Well, give the ATI version a go, then.01:09
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stamen81how can I make again the drives to be visible in /media01:09
Arafangionblu3_c: What do you mean?01:09
stjepanArafangion, opensource drivers don't work very well01:09
stamen81what to do in fstab01:09
Arafangionstjepan: I've heard that they sometimes work better than the ATI drivers.01:09
Arafangionstjepan: Pretty much touch and go which one is better on ati cards.01:09
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apsuvahow to install mercury-messenger?01:10
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stjepanArafangion, I want 3D acceleration01:10
blu3_ci already installed icewm, but i cannot find it in kwin01:10
Arafangionstjepan: afaik, it does have 3D acceleration.01:10
Killazsomewhere in a config file of apache apt-get set a variable to 1 so apache2 can not be start automatically which file is this?01:11
Killazsomewhere in a config file of apache201:11
rabeis there anyway to remove the message in the chat with "*blabla is leaving" ?01:11
Arafangionstjepan: Just not as good as ATI's version.01:11
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blu3_canyone can answer my question01:11
Arafangionstjepan: It's the free nvidia drivers that don't have 3d acceleration at all.01:11
Arafangion!give ask to blu3_c01:11
ubotuArafangion: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:11
Arafangion!ask01:11
antoniojuliohowto compile a .py file?01:11
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.01:11
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Arafangionantoniojulio: Why do you want to?01:12
rabeis there anyway to remove the messages in the chat with saying which user is entering/leaving the chat? Like "*blabla is leaving #ubuntu" ?01:12
blu3_c....01:12
Arafangionrabe: Dependant on the client.01:12
HedgeMagerabe: in what client?01:12
rabexcaht01:12
rabexchat01:12
Arafangionrabe: Probably in options or preferences.01:12
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apsuvahow to install mercury-messenger?01:13
rabei can't find it :-( anyone using xchat?01:13
Arafangionapsuva: Find the .deb for your ubuntu version.01:13
Arafangionapsuva: And install it.01:13
fidi'm using xchat01:13
blu3_ci've been mount my vfat system, to media/windows, but when i restart i must mount it again,,,, any ideas01:13
apsuvai am install mercury-messenger_1710_S7_i386.deb package but not working01:13
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rabefid: did you manage to remove the messages in the chat with saying which user is entering/leaving the chat? Like "*blabla is leaving #ubuntu" ?01:13
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fidoh01:14
blu3_ccan i make it atoumatic mountes01:14
blu3_ccan i make it atoumatic mounted01:14
fidummm01:14
fidnot but it never really bothered me01:14
fidhaha01:14
stjepanArafangion, the only opensource ati drivers which provide 3d acceleration are the cvs ones01:14
rabeit's jsut so messy01:14
rabeaah01:14
Arafangionapsuva: Why did you get that one? It's for debian.  Now that I've checked the site, it looks like they do not have an ubuntu version.01:14
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HedgeMagerabe: sorry... I use irssi... if I were you I'd ask in #xchat (or is it ##xchat?)01:14
Arafangionstjepan: Interesting.01:14
stjepanArafangion, I meant for my card01:15
rabeHedgeMage: @freenode?01:15
Arafangionstjepan: I see.01:15
stamen81so how can I ma ke them visible01:15
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fidi wish someone would have ported xircon for linux01:15
fidxircon was the best irc client ever made01:15
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HedgeMagerabe: I just looked, it's #xchat :)01:15
fidor maybe they did01:15
blu3_cnyong01:15
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rabeHedgeMage: they are all dead there :-(01:16
fidhrmm...anyone know why my xmms skins will not work.  I extracted the files to /home/fid/Desktop/xmms/skins/01:16
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fidbut i'll load the skin and then the song will switch and it goes back to xmms default skin01:16
fidand for some reason the folder in the01:16
apsuvaArafangion :  how to install msn with webcam?01:16
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fidskins containing the skin files doesn't show up in the skin browser01:17
roryyfid: i'd guess /home/fid/.xmms/Skins  is where you want your skins to go.  (I don't use xmms, though)01:17
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movii need help with gnome and netatalk01:17
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movianyone ?01:17
apsuvaArafangion :  how to install msn with webcam?01:17
Arafangionapsuva: Have you tried an alternative client? such as gaim?01:17
HumanPrototypehi all01:18
Arafangionapsuva: Oh, hmm.01:18
apsuvai m using gaim01:18
apsuvabut webcam?01:18
HumanPrototypeim thinking of installing dapper with reiserfs v4 as a filesystem, is there anything i should look outfor01:18
Arafangionapsuva: I would give the "Linux" version a go.01:18
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fidya i have been trying that01:18
fidits not working01:18
bnbvnbhi01:19
HedgeMagerabe: awww :(01:19
Arafangionapsuva: It's a distribution independant format, it means that your package manager will not be able to manage it, so if a new one arrives, you're responsible for removing it and upgrading it manually, etc.01:19
HedgeMagerabe: there's an off chance someone in #freenode-social would know... it's a social chan, not a support chan, but most of those folks (myself included) spend WAY too much time on IRC :P01:19
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Arafangionapsuva: Just like windows :)01:19
fidwhen i do sudo apt-get remove xmms is that completely removing the program ?01:20
fidlike I want not trace of the program found01:20
fidthen I want to install it from scratch01:20
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apsuvaok Arafangion thank you:)01:20
Arafangionfid: try sudo apt-get remove xmms --purge01:20
Arafangionfid: If you didn't use --purge, some configuration files may remain.01:20
Arafangionfid: Other than that...  It pretty much removes everything.01:21
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Arafangionapsuva: Did that work01:21
bnbvnbHi I've having a bit of trouble installing ubuntu01:21
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Arafangionbnbvnb: You should state the version and the nature of the trouble.01:21
Arafangionbnbvnb: You're on irc, so I figure that you've got the monitor on, etc...01:21
fidugh..01:22
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bnbvnbim trying to do a dual boot with grub and install without a cd01:22
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Arafangionbnbvnb: (In other words, it's pretty difficult for us to just guess as to what might be wrong)01:22
fidi wonder if its like calling a file that its just not getting cause its still loading with the old playlist file when i install it again01:22
fideven after the --purge one01:22
Arafangionbnbvnb: Are you able to install with a CD?01:22
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bnbvnbi have no burner so no not really01:22
unforcerHey do you know why bmpx(beep-media-player 2) stopped working with the last update for dapper?01:23
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rabeHedgeMage: i did find the answer: http://www.xchat.org/faq/#q21101:23
Arafangionfid: Try moving ~/.xmms or something to a temporary folder.01:23
rabemuch better now, cleaner the chat01:23
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unforcerDid the last update change something big?01:23
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HedgeMagerabe: cool01:23
bnbvnbive been using instlux.exe01:24
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freshmeathi folks, i have some questions regarding installation of a second linux os on my harddrive, i prefer to switch between ubuntu and debian in grub, how is that going that.01:24
bnbvnbthat sets up grub basically01:24
HedgeMagerabe: Try being staff... you have no idea the amount of junk I see scrolling by!  eek!01:24
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Arafangionbnbvnb: I see. It's much nicer to use the CD's (You can order them, I hear, for free).01:24
rabeHedgeMage: do you know how to enable time stamps01:24
fidArafangi2n: how do i do that?01:24
Arafangionbnbvnb: But that's really a question for the ubuntu geeks, I'm more of a Debian person. :(01:24
bnbvnbi did order one today but it will take probably 2 months or so01:25
fidwhat is this ~/.xmms thing01:25
Arafangionfid: mv ~/.xmms ~/.xmms-old01:25
calamarianyone know of a program that sets up ctrl-alt console switching through ssh?  for example (in windows), I'd connect through ssh and a program would enable virtual consoles inside the ssh01:25
HedgeMagerabe: no clue... I haven't used xchat in over a year, so I forgot where everything is01:25
fidthen what reinstalling?01:25
Arafangionfid: On linux, "hidden files" merely have a dot in the front.01:25
bnbvnbim in seoul and I hear it takes 4 weeks in the usa to get the cd shipped01:25
rabeHedgeMage:  so what's better than it?01:25
Arafangionfid: I thought you've already reinstalled it?01:25
fidI have01:25
fidlike 4 times01:25
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fidi did the sudo apt-get remove xmms --purge01:26
fidthat didn't seem to work01:26
bimberirabe: Settings -> Preferences -> Text Box (at the bottom)01:26
fidso remove then move that?01:26
bnbvnbi'll probably just buy a burner but it seems like this should be working01:26
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Arafangionfid: No, keep it installed.01:26
fidok01:26
Arafangionfid: ~/.xmms or similar file should be what keeps your configuration for xmms.01:26
fidok01:26
fidwell i moved it01:26
Arafangionfid: I don't actually use xmms, so I'm guessing that it's ~/.xmms01:26
fidnow what?01:26
Arafangionfid: Try starting xmms again.01:27
fidwell the icon is not working anymore01:27
bnbvnbwhen I starts the install everything works fine until it trys to actually install the system01:27
blu3_cm o n y e t01:27
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fidwait nope01:27
fidits still loading01:27
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bnbvnbi set up the network settings, download the release, partition the drive, and then it trys to install the system, and says there was an error01:27
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bnbvnbthen if i reboot windows will also not load01:28
Killazwhere in the config file can a daemon like apache a variable be set so it won't start automatically any more?01:28
Arafangionbnbvnb: Probably because you wiped windows when you repartitioned the drive.01:28
bnbvnbwell thats the thing01:28
bnbvnbi had just installed windows01:29
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bnbvnbon an 80g drive01:29
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bnbvnbusing only 35g of the space01:29
Arafangionbnbvnb: So partition it in advance, install windows, then use the same partition table for ubuntu.01:29
Arafangionbnbvnb: I see, you already did that.01:29
KillazI got this message y'day from apt-get that it changed something in a file so apache2 wont start automatically any more01:29
Arafangionbnbvnb: I'm sorry, if this were debian, I could help you, but I'm just not savvy with Ubuntu.01:29
Killaznow I dont remember which file it was01:29
bnbvnbok01:30
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bnbvnbwell then lets install debain01:30
bnbvnbany development will work for me01:30
Killaz*sigh*01:30
bnbvnbim just trying to set up a dual windows/linux system without a burner01:30
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bnbvnbi just had read that debain was more advanced01:31
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Arafangionbnbvnb: Not more advanced.01:31
Arafangionbnbvnb: imho, Debian's better for servers, Ubuntu's better for Desktops, but I am a traditionalist.01:31
olemikalwitch packages do i need to get apache php and mysql???01:31
Arafangionbnbvnb: If you want helpw ith debian, we'd best go to #debian.01:32
bimberiubotu tell olemikal about lamp01:32
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EleafDoes anybody have "sopwith"01:32
EleafI would like to play a game01:32
Eleaflol01:32
Arafangionbnbvnb: Debian is *much* more manual than Ubuntu, though.01:32
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Eleafsomebody with sopwith.. please...01:33
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unforcerbeep-media-player-2: Couldn't connect to session bus: No reply within specified time01:33
Eleafyes, that cheesy little arcade type dog fight game01:33
hajuuEleaf,01:33
Eleafhi01:33
hajuuget it using synaptic01:33
hajuusopwith is on there01:33
EleafI have it01:33
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EleafI want somebody to play it with hajuu01:33
hajuuprobably in universe01:33
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Eleafyes..01:33
bimberiKillaz: do you want to stop apache2 starting at boot?  sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 remove01:33
xerxasHi01:33
EleafI have it...  I want to play it with somebody though hajuu01:34
xerxasI just got a new macbook pro , is there a ubuntu version for it ?01:34
bimberiKillaz: or install 'bum' (boot up manager)01:34
lee_hi01:34
hajuuEleaf,01:34
bimberi!tell Killaz about bum01:34
xerxascan I boot that version with xen ?01:34
hajuuim up for that, ill download it01:34
hajuulol01:34
Eleafawesome!01:34
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Arafangionxerxas: Can it run windows?01:34
Eleafthe sound is kinda loud and annoying, so beware.. lol01:34
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xerxasArafangi1n: it's already running windows01:35
Arafangionxerxas: If so, try the intel version of ubuntu.01:35
xerxasand osx01:35
hajuulol its ok my sound isnt even working :D01:35
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Arafangionxerxas: In that case, it might work with the intel version.01:35
xerxasArafangi1n:  There's a need for special drivers01:35
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Arafangionxerxas: Well, you'd be on your own, I guess.01:35
xerxasArafangi1n: at least ATI01:35
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xerxasArafangi1n: probably wireless01:36
fidhow do i delete the /usr/share/xmms directory?01:36
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maskdfid: sudo rm -R /usr/share/xmms/01:36
Eleaffid, 'sudo rm -r /usr/share/xmms'01:36
EleafMAWAHAHAH01:36
Arafangionfid: Don't do that!01:36
Eleaflol01:36
Eleaf?01:37
fid?01:37
Eleaf??01:37
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fidso what do i do?01:37
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maskdanyone else run into programs with the livecd beta of dapper?01:37
hajuuoh my god01:37
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Killazbimberi: I'm trying to start apache2. I installed it but then something went wrong during installation. When I got rid of the problem (apache1 was running so it couldn't use prot 80) I re-installed it.01:37
hajuuthis game is OLDSCHOOL01:37
maskdwhich game hajuu01:38
hajuuhow do you.. take off.01:38
hajuu?01:38
hajuusopwith01:38
Killazbimberi: but now it can't start up: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start01:38
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Eleafoh01:38
hajuuEleaf, how do I take off01:38
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Eleafhajuu, are you doing the normal single player?01:38
hajuuyeah just til I know how to play01:38
hajuu:/01:38
Killazbimberi: I'm using the CL so no graphcal utilities01:38
Eleafif you are going against the computer01:38
Eleafx is throttle, you have to tap it a few times and the plane should begin to move hajuu01:39
Eleafthen press left to bring it into the air01:39
hajuuwhats throtle down?01:39
bimberiKillaz: have a look in /var/log/apache2 (iirc)01:39
EleafI think z hajuu01:39
Eleafspace is fire01:39
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Eleafb is bomb01:39
hajuuoh my god01:39
hajuuthis is THE BEST01:39
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Eleafv is missiles if you have it enabled, it's disabled by default01:39
Eleaf;p lol01:40
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hajuuthe graphics are deceptive to quite a good game01:40
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Killazbimberi: both files in the directory are empty01:41
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Eleafyea hajuu01:41
Killazbimberi: error.log and access.log01:42
Eleafhajuu, tell me when you want to do a game with me01:42
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hajuuso.. what.. I just have to bomb the buildings and stuff?01:42
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Eleafyea..01:42
bimberiKillaz: yes it probably has to successfully start before it will populate those - how about 'grep apache2 /var/log/*'01:42
Eleafyou can also go against the computer with another plane01:43
bimberi?01:43
Eleafhajuu, you might want to enable missiles01:43
hajuuhow ?01:43
EleafI do at least, at the main menu, go to options, and then set missiles to on01:43
hajuuah yeah01:44
hajuueasy01:44
Killazbimberi: alot of lines01:44
Eleafhajuu, okay, do you wanna try a game now?01:44
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[[BeLLLoTa] ] aja!01:44
bimberiKillaz: any clues as to why it doesn't start?01:44
[[BeLLLoTa] ] :o por aca hay mas gente :D01:44
[[BeLLLoTa] ] speak spanish?01:45
Eleaf;p01:45
bimberiX!es01:45
bimberi!es01:45
hajuulol sure01:45
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:45
hajuuhow do we do this01:45
Eleafhold on01:45
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[[BeLLLoTa] ] :o01:45
olemikali have installed ubuntu server.. if i want blackbox can i just type apt-get install blackbox and ubuntu installs all it need??01:45
Eleafok, go to the main menu hajuu01:45
[[BeLLLoTa] ] thnks!01:45
Killazbimberi: well apt-get said duing the installation prblem that it changed a line somewhere to NO_START=1 and that I should change that back to 001:45
hajuuwhats your ip01:45
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Eleafhajuu, I'm not entirely sure this will work, as for it is designed for lan, but we will be adventurers! lol01:45
Killazbimberi: but I cant not remember whoch file01:45
Killazwhich*01:45
hajuulol :P01:45
hajuuare you hosting a game yet?01:45
bimberiKillaz: probably somewhere in /etc/apache2 - 'sudo grep -r NO_START /etc/apache2/*'01:46
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Eleafhajuu, ones sec, not yet01:46
Killazbimberi: no luck... :(01:47
Killazbimberi: does apt-get make a log of all its actions?01:47
Eleafhajuu, hello?01:47
Revolutiondoes anyone know how to higher my screen refresh rate? It's max 60 Hz now but should be able to handle 75 Hz01:48
hajuuEleaf, just tell me when to connect man01:48
bimberiKillaz: no, but dpkg does - /var/log/dpkg.log - but before that try /etc/default/apache201:48
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bimberi!tell Revolution about fixres01:49
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Eleaflol01:49
Eleafhajuu, hello?01:49
hajuuEleaf, just tell me when to connect man01:50
hajuuEleaf, just tell me when to connect man01:50
Eleaflol01:50
Eleafhajuu, okay01:50
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hajuu:P01:50
Killazbimberi: you're a genius.... NO_START=101:50
hajuunow?01:50
Eleaflet me start it again01:50
Eleaflol01:50
hajuulol kk01:50
Revolutionbimberi: thnx! :)01:50
Eleafhajuu, okay, go to the connect to remove host01:50
bimberiKillaz: yw :) (actually google helped me)01:50
Eleafhajuu, I'm 71.208.137.1701:50
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bimberiRevolution: yw :)01:50
Killazbimberi: what was your search string?01:51
hajuuEleaf,  I know, ive just gotta press enter01:51
hajuuyou ready?01:51
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bimberiKillaz: apache2 NO_START01:51
EleafI'm ready hajuu01:51
Killazbimberi: cause I googled it also.. but  no luck for me01:51
Killazheh01:51
Killaz*sigh*01:51
hajuuoh what was that!01:51
Eleafwoah01:51
Eleafdid yours quit? lol01:51
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Killazbimberi: apache NO_START gave mo no usefull hits01:51
Eleafhajuu, try it again01:51
hajuucommconnect: connected to '71.208.137.17'!01:51
hajuurandom seed: 1776701:51
hajuureadshort: timeout on read01:51
hajuuok01:51
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hajuuready?01:52
lflashlhow do i open a rar in linux01:52
Eleafyes01:52
bimberiKillaz: apache201:52
Eleafwell01:52
hajuudamn01:52
hajuuthat sucks01:52
Eleafhajuu, it said "waiting for other player"01:52
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Eleafso it's definetely talking.. hmm01:52
hajuumine just crashes01:52
Eleafmine crashes too01:52
Killazbimberi: ty01:52
olemikali have installed ubuntu server.. if i want blackbox can i just type apt-get install blackbox and ubuntu installs all it need??01:53
EleafI wonder if you have to have that port unblocked01:53
bimberiKillaz: np :)01:53
Killazapache2 started successfully01:53
Fysidiko!tell lflashl about unrar01:53
Eleafhajuu, do you have a local firewall tool like firestarter or something?01:53
bimberiKillaz: took a while but we got there eventually :)01:53
hajuuno sir. no firewall.01:54
hajuuno router01:54
hajuunothing.01:54
Eleafhow are you connected to the net?01:54
AfiefHow can i integrate ReiserFS4 in my Ubuntu?01:54
hajuudial up01:54
Eleafmm01:54
Killazbimberi: yeah, it was a good that I remember that NO_START variable01:54
Eleafcan I try connecting to you hajuu ?01:54
hajuusure01:54
hajuusec01:54
EleafI think I have your ip, it showed up in my terminal01:54
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bimberiKillaz: indeed!01:54
|lostbyte|Is there a kde firewall program, if yes. what is it called ?01:55
Killazbimberi: hey but's that the whole idea of this ubuntu CL adventure... ;)01:55
hajuuEleaf, /dns me for my ip01:55
Fysidiko!firewall01:55
ubotuUbuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.01:55
Eleafhajuu, alright are you ready?01:55
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hajuuyessir01:55
Eleafdo you have it set to listen01:55
Eleafok01:55
|lostbyte|I am looking for a kde in specific.01:55
polopoloPlease see:01:56
polopolo!firewall01:56
ubotuUbuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.01:56
Eleafwoah01:56
hajuu:(01:56
Eleafhajuu, the thing loaded.. lol01:56
Fysidiko|lostbyte| you're already firewalled01:56
hajuulooks like we're out of luck01:56
Eleafbut then quit01:56
hajuulol yeah thats what happened for me01:56
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Eleafweird.. lol01:56
|lostbyte|fyrestrtr: huh ?01:56
|lostbyte|Fysidiko: ^01:56
Fysidiko|lostbyte| All Linux has a 'basic' firewall built into the kernel01:57
Fysidiko|lostbyte| to configure it you can use firestarter01:57
Eleafhajuu, have you configured the firewall on ubuntu at all?01:57
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Eleafthat could be it..01:57
hajuuI never installed one01:57
Eleafit has one by default01:57
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hajuunot mine :/01:57
Eleafare you sure..?01:57
hajuuyep01:57
Fysidiko|lostbyte| to install firestarter you can use synaptic or run sudo apt-get install firestarter in a terminal01:58
Eleafhow do you know? lol01:58
hajuucause there is no settings for it01:58
hajuuat all01:58
hajuuanywhere01:58
|lostbyte|Fysidiko: Yes. but i belive iptables is the once.01:58
Eleafyea I know01:58
Eleafhajuu, like the other person said, there is a built in one in the kernel01:58
Fysidiko|lostbyte| iptables just blocks specific IPs. There is an actual firewall in Ubuntu, trust me :)01:58
Eleafor there are basic iptables set.01:58
hajuu... in hoary?01:58
Eleafoh01:58
Eleafmaaayyybbeee01:58
Fysidiko|lostbyte| If you want confirmation, install firestarter01:59
Eleafwhy are you running hoary still?  ;p hehe01:59
Fysidiko|lostbyte| That'll give you an interface to it like you'd have on Windows01:59
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PeterPowellHI ALL01:59
hajuuim running hoary because its all I have on cd01:59
hajuuand im dialup01:59
Eleafoh I see01:59
PeterPowellI NEED HELP01:59
|lostbyte|Fysidiko: ok ! your saying i already have firewall blocking port in ubuntu by default, right ?01:59
lflashldo i need to make a symbolic link to make vlc play all media types??01:59
hajuuI ordered some breezy ones, but you know how that is.... I waited like 6 months for hoary01:59
Eleaf;p01:59
Fysidiko|lostbyte| I'm not sure what the exact settings are, it depends what port you want to clock02:00
Fysidiko*block02:00
Eleafhajuu, oh wel, at least you discovered an 'interesting' game. ;p02:00
Fysidiko|lostbyte| There will be ports open for any services you're using, for example SSH or an HTTP server02:00
hajuulol yeah there goes my saterday night!02:00
|lostbyte|Fysidiko: ok ! if i want to view the configuration to my actual firewall in ubuntu by default, where can i see or edit it ?02:00
Eleafhaha02:00
Eleafhajuu, I would maybe try using firestarter though02:01
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lflashlwht does symbolic link do?02:01
hajuubah I dont need no firewall trash02:01
Eleafhajuu, whenever I do anything web-related, I have to use that to open up some ports.02:01
|lostbyte|Fysidiko: with out installing firestarter, that is.02:01
MisterNhi02:01
Eleafhajuu, I think it blocks all incoming ports though.02:01
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hajuuthen I definately dont have one installed02:02
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Fysidiko|lostbyte| Not sure how to configure it without any tools installed02:02
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indypendehi all!02:02
Fysidiko|lostbyte| for KDE, Guarddog's pretty nice too02:02
Eleafhajuu, can you ssh into your computer?02:02
|lostbyte|Fysidiko: Till now i thought iptables talk to the kernel, and act as the core firewall over which other apps are used as frontend. Pls correct me.02:02
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Eleaf(if you have ssh-server installed)02:02
hartzHello, please someone tell me how to change the X-windows window manager port size.  Where do you adjsut this - I am using Enlightenment02:03
Fysidiko|lostbyte| Ubuntu uses Netfilter, which talks to IPtables, as well as having other rules built in02:03
Ilokaaaasui use svideo to watch movies on tv but video screen is only blue, what should i do to make movie visible ?02:03
hajuuEleaf, yeah, and I do regularly02:03
hajuuas well as ftp in02:03
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hajuuwebserver in02:03
hajuuetc etc02:03
Eleafoh alright hajuu02:03
PeterPowellCAN SUM 1 PLZ PM ME I NEED HELP02:04
Eleaflol02:04
Fysidiko|lostbyte| Wait, unless it's the other way round... one of the two controls the other :-$02:04
hajuuPeterPowell, LESS CAPS PLEASE ASSHAT02:04
shinakumalol02:04
olemikali have installed ubuntu server.. if i want gnome can i just type apt-get install gnome and ubuntu installs all it need??02:04
|lostbyte|Fysidiko: :)02:04
PeterPowellsori02:04
paxouch!02:04
shinakumaolemikal: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop02:04
Eleafhajuu, the other thing could be that it can't handle the lag the dial-up may be causing and is doing that "timeout on read".  Since it's used to having a low-lag local connection.  Not sure though.02:05
pax!info loco02:05
ubotuloco: (Perl script to add nice colors to your /var/log/messages file), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.32-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 64 kB02:05
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olemikalshinakuma: do i get tons of programs i dont need then?:D02:05
paxhehe good ol' loco is still around!02:05
newbie33!glade02:05
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, newbie3302:05
Fysidiko|lostbyte|: Looks like Netfilter uses iptables for user configurable rules, while also tracking connections etc02:06
Fysidiko|lostbyte| So you can configure it via IPtables02:06
hajuuEleaf, I think its a game bug myself.. it timesout way way way too fast02:06
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Fysidiko|lostbyte|: Not sure what I was talking about :)02:06
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|lostbyte|your right, maybe netfilter is controlling iptables. cause netfilter is not installed by default.02:06
Fysidiko|lostbyte|: Netfilter is a part of the Linux Kernel02:06
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Eleafhajuu, true.  I was able to connect to myself though hehe.  open up two sopwiths and then connect to 127.0.0.102:06
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|lostbyte|Fysidiko: huh ? you mean like an inbuilt module ?02:07
hajuuhahah02:07
hajuuthats awsome02:07
hajuushould have tried to fly both02:07
Eleaflol!02:07
stjepancan I get xcomposite working with my Radeon 9600?02:07
Eleafthe sound gets all scary..02:07
Eleafwith both going at the same time.. yeh..02:07
Fysidiko|lostbyte|: Netfilter is the part of the kernel that controls networking packets02:08
Fysidiko|lostbyte| IPtables is the tool to create rules for it02:08
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Fysidiko|lostbyte| They both come with pretty much all distros,02:08
|lostbyte|Fysidiko: oh ! then iptables talkes to netfilter.02:09
Fysidiko|lostbyte| Yes02:09
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|lostbyte|Fysidiko: netfilter is only there to do the real stuff. but is useless with out iptables. makes sence now.02:09
lflashlanyone know of a linux rar password cracker02:09
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Fysidiko|lostbyte|: Not useless, just not configurable02:10
bobcathelp, my screen locks-up after booting into kubuntu, i have a nvidia 6600 grafix card02:10
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|lostbyte|Fysidiko: k .. thanks for the info.02:10
james__hello02:10
|lostbyte|lflashl: there is non. for windows there is. try google.02:10
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james__can some one help me install a .bin file02:11
Fysidiko|lostbyte|: What is it that you want to change about your firewall?02:11
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|lostbyte|james__: chmod +x file.bin;./file.bin02:11
|lostbyte|Fysidiko: I am looking for a qt frontend to iptables :)02:12
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Fysidiko|lostbyte| Only frontends I know of are firestarter and guarddog02:12
Fysidiko|lostbyte| Firestarter definitely isn't QT, not sure about guarddog02:13
roryyapt-cache suggests kmyfirewall02:13
stjepanI want transparent windows without XGL with my ATI Radeon 9600... is it possible?02:13
|lostbyte|Fysidiko: which one is qt ?02:13
|lostbyte|oh02:13
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|lostbyte|ok ! i'll check.02:13
Fysidiko|lostbyte| Looks like gd is QT02:13
bobcatanyone else having problems with nvidia cards in linux?02:13
james__so like  chmod +x file.bin;./home/james/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin02:13
Fysidikohttp://www.simonzone.com/software/guarddog/02:13
lflashlbobcat, NOPE02:13
bobcathmmm02:14
Frogzoo!tell bobcat about nvidia02:14
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bobcati just freezes, cant do anything02:14
|lostbyte|Fysidiko: yes its qt.02:14
|lostbyte|Fysidiko: tx02:14
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Frogzoobobcat: update your driver, see ubotu's pm02:14
Fysidiko|lostbyte|: Don't mention it02:14
josipUsing gnome-terminal and vim on ubuntu (dapper), installed through apt-get . I don't get any highlighting02:15
Frogzoostjepan: you can enable transparency in gnome terminal, no xgl required02:15
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lsuactiafneri need somoene that knows lartc well to help me with this setup http://rootshell.be/~edc/network.html its 5 wireless IPs the ISP provides us with, each is 128kbit, i want to combine those ips into one 640kbit link, to increase download speed, futher i want to give each user on the network a dedictaed 128kbit link, and shape p2p downloads so that http transfers are still fast02:15
roryyjosip: tried  ':syntax on'  ?02:15
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james__ chmod +x file.bin;./home/james/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin               ???????????????//02:16
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josiproryy, omg :) I tried to manually set like :set syntax=.. damn :)02:16
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james__is that how i install a .bin file02:16
roryyjosip: i presume that can be added to '~/.vimrc'  (i'm not actually a vim user ;)02:16
Frogzoojames__: best to consult the README/INSTALL/other docs02:16
|lostbyte|james__:  chmod +x /home/james/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin;/home/james/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin02:16
roryyalso, there are prepackaged debs for java02:17
roryy!javadebs02:17
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tombshi all02:17
james__thjanks02:17
roryy!tell james__ about javadebs02:17
stjepanFrogzoo, I want for all windows02:17
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Fysidikostjepan: That's not built into basic Ubuntu02:17
Frogzoostjepan: well then xgl02:17
stjepanwhat about xcompmgr?02:18
Fysidikostjepan: Not very stable, very slow02:18
stjepanany other ideas?02:18
lsuactiafnerompaul : i need somoene that knows lartc well to help me with this setup http://rootshell.be/~edc/network.html its 5 wireless IPs the ISP provides us with, each is 128kbit, i want to combine those ips into one 640kbit link, to increase download speed, futher i want to give each user on the network a dedictaed 128kbit link, and shape p2p downloads so that http transfers are still fast02:18
stjepanxgl is a crap, a big crap02:18
stjepandon't you think?02:18
Fysidiko!tell lsuactiafner about repeat02:18
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lsuactiafnerFysidiko : i was addressing ompaul since i know from experience he can help with advanced questions02:19
apricotwhy my sound sucks???02:19
Fysidikostjepan: I've never got it going properly, it's been really nice before though02:19
Frogzoostjepan: it's more bling than anything in vista, and if there's bugs, it will get sorted out02:19
lsuactiafnerhe joined after i asked02:19
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Fysidikostjepan: Don't worry, if he's being smarter than me I'll shut up :)02:19
lsuactiafneri know for a fact none of the ubuntu users can help me, unless they are like Seveas or ompaul02:19
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stjepanI used XGL for a while... crap crap carp02:19
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Fysidikostjepan: oops, not you02:20
ompaullsuactiafner, it ain;t me :-(02:20
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apricotwhy my sound sucks???02:20
stjepanFrogzoo, no, not bugs, XGL itself is a crap02:20
Fysidiko lsuactiafner: If you want someones attention, open a private window to them02:20
apricotwhy my sound sucks???02:20
Fysidiko lsuactiafner: Otherwise please wait 10 minutes between questions, we can see you don't worry02:20
Frogzooapricot: 'sound sucks' is pretty vague02:20
stjepanFrogzoo, that cube, expose ... totally useless... I just want transparency02:20
Fysidiko!tell apricot about sound02:21
Ilokaaaasucan someone help, my tvout shows videos only as blue screen, i can still hear the audio02:21
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ompaulFysidiko, no, that is rude, the way to do it is ask can they open a private window - quickest way to get ignored or the kind of attention you don't want :-)02:21
apricotmy sound is like behind the wall02:21
damian_what would cause my system to write to the /etc/resolv.conf when i'm not using a dhcp to get machine ip?02:21
stjepanXGL is just a pure eye-candy, useless, very useless02:21
apricotand it isn't a equilizer problem02:21
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Frogzoostjepan: I will be running xgl for exactly that - I want to play vids on my desktop, & watch while I'm working :)02:21
stjepanFrogzoo, what???02:22
Fysidikoompaul: Sorry, haven't been here long02:22
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stjepanFrogzoo, you'll get sick of this one day ;)02:22
|lostbyte|apricot: remove your speakers from behinde the wall :P02:22
Frogzooapricot: at least describe which app you're using & which codecs02:22
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ompaulFysidiko, no problem, :)02:22
apricotamarok02:22
lsuactiafnerFysidiko : i used to be a reg here helping newbs for about 3 hrs a day, i know the rules but if i need help i will ask ppl directly when i feel its appropriate.02:22
stjepanFrogzoo, there's nothing usable there.... I HIGHLY recommend you to give WMII a try: www.wmii.de02:22
apricotcodecs from faq page.02:22
james__Hello how do i install a rpm file02:22
jorIs there some netinst/businesscard cd/usb-key install image somewhere?02:23
Fysidikolsuactiafner: I don't mean to be rude, just used to people asking the same question over and over02:23
|lostbyte|apache2: check alsamixer and disable some switches.. like mic or mic booster..02:23
apricotcan you prescribe me other codecs that i need to have, please!02:23
Fysidikolsuactiafner: I don't think anyone here's good enough to help you :(02:23
lflashldam it i dl lost and its in rar with password !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!02:23
|lostbyte|lflashl: check the place you downloaded from, for a password.02:24
james__Hello how do i install a rpm file02:24
Fysidikolsuactiafner: Have you tried ubuntuforums?02:24
apricot?02:24
roryyjames__: preferably don't.  Is this still for java?02:25
|lostbyte|james__: you cant basically in ubuntu. get a .deb version.02:25
james__no this is limewire02:25
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roryy!tell james__ about limewire02:25
apricothelp please.02:25
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|lostbyte|!limewire02:26
ubotufirst you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.02:26
gnomefreakubotu tell apricot about codecs02:26
gnomefreakubotu tell apricot -about restricted02:26
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hajuuubotu tell gnomefreak about special offer in his area!02:27
Frogzooapricot: what app are you using to play music?02:27
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apricotamarok, alsaplayer02:27
Ilokaaaasucould someone help me with this blues screen when playing videos on the other screen(tvout)02:28
EvilDinme having big problem with apt-get upgrade02:28
EvilDinwhere can i paste error02:28
james__!java02:28
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs02:28
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|lostbyte|EvilDin: pastebin.com02:28
james__!javadebs02:28
gnomefreak!pastebin02:28
ubotuI heard pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126902:28
gnomefreakubotu tell james__ about msg the bot02:29
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Frogzooapricot: what's your sound card?02:29
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EvilDinok http://pastebin.com/675038 help help02:30
gnomefreakEvilDin: what language?02:30
EvilDinslovenian02:30
Frogzooapricot: install pkg 'amarok-xine' first, & see if configuring this in amarok as your engine helps02:30
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|lostbyte|EvilDin: goh ! check for your channel.02:31
EvilDini would give you in engilish if i would know how to switch02:31
gnomefreakFrogzoo: do you know is there is a slovic channel?02:31
paxany idea why bootlogd is not enabled by default?02:31
Frogzoognomefreak: no idea02:31
gnomefreakEvilDin: what country sode is it?02:31
gnomefreakcode*02:31
EvilDinit is si02:31
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Frogzoo!si02:32
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ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Frogzoo02:32
Frogzooheh02:32
gnomefreaklol02:32
EvilDin:D02:32
gnomefreaki just joined was only one is it close enough to russian?02:32
Ilokaaaasuhow to make my tv to be the first screen so videos would not play blue :) ?02:32
EvilDinno it is not close02:32
roryyheh. is dutch close to english ? ;)02:32
main2i guy in ##linux is wondering why he is banned in this channel (name 'zelevw')02:32
gnomefreaklol roryy02:32
EvilDinthere is just problem with ip 85.133.25.702:32
main2could an op tell him why or something?02:32
EvilDinand i don't know why02:32
EvilDinit say that it can't make connection02:33
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roryyEvilDin: change the addresses in sources.list.  Try plain 'archive.ubuntu.com' instead of (I guess) si.archive.ubuntu.com02:33
gnomefreakEvilDin: try sudo apt-get update02:33
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BoglizkDoes ubuntu come iwth any c++ compiler or do i have to DL one?02:33
gnomefreakBoglizk: sudo apt-get install build-essential02:34
Boglizkthanks02:34
gnomefreakiirc it has g++ with it02:34
roryyEvilDin: scratch that, it looks like si.archive.ubuntu.com maps to archive.ubuntu.com02:34
EvilDinhttp://pastebin.com/67504302:35
EvilDini dod02:35
EvilDindid02:35
roryyBoglizk: build-essential is on the install CD; if you don't have that, it will need to be downloaded (using apt-get or synaptic)02:35
EvilDinsame thing02:35
EvilDinlook that pastebin02:35
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Boglizkokay..02:35
EvilDinor should i delte first all02:35
EvilDinthen make apt-get update02:35
EvilDinand then add the new ones02:36
EvilDindelete*02:36
gnomefreakEvilDin: can you translate it including the repo its complaining about?02:36
stjepanpfff... why Radeon 9600 can't get xcomposite working? :-o02:36
EvilDinok i will02:36
roryyEvilDin: can you browse to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ using firefox ?02:36
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EvilDinno connection reset by peer02:37
MagnusGoldsteinhello ppls02:37
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Boglizkevil peer..02:37
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EvilDinbut why is connection reset by peer02:37
roryyEvilDin: ah. Works fine here -- maybe a network problem02:37
gnomefreakEvilDin: what repo is it02:37
MagnusGoldsteinby any chance, is anyone familiar with the problem of a missing memset.h in their /usr/include ?02:37
BoglizkCouse the connection was reset by peer02:37
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EvilDini know it works one other two ubuntu machine02:38
EvilDinonly one doesn't work02:38
roryyEvilDin: e.g., if your ISP has a transparent proxy02:38
Boglizkpeer = crappy connection02:38
Boglizk:p02:38
EvilDinit is brezzy02:38
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FrogzooMagnusGoldstein: no memset.h here, why do you need it?02:38
MagnusGoldsteincompiling cinelerra02:39
EvilDinit works so long02:39
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EvilDinis now anything chanhed02:39
FrogzooMagnusGoldstein: have you tried with CC=gcc-3.4 ?02:39
MagnusGoldsteinamd64 btw02:39
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EvilDinchanged02:39
ubuntu_ hy all, had anyone tried to install kubuntu daper from the live cd? the window of the installer sudnly disapear at step 5?anyone can help me?02:39
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roryyEvilDin: can you browse other websites ? www.google.com?02:40
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MagnusGoldsteinmaybe I should just install 3.4... am running 3.3...02:40
james__Hey again02:40
apricotI was out, Frogzoo, my card is NVidia nForce202:40
gnomefreakubuntu_: join #ubuntu+1 for dapper please02:40
james__how do u install a .deb file02:40
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EvilDinyes i can02:40
FrogzooMagnusGoldstein: have you tried to pull source from repos?02:40
Frogzoojames__: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb02:40
stuzz78good evening everyone :)02:40
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EvilDini thought that dns is wrong02:40
roryy!tell james__ about deb02:40
james__ty02:40
EvilDinbut doesn't seem02:40
gnomefreakMagnusGoldstein: sudo apt-get install build-essential02:40
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MagnusGoldsteinwhich source from repos? cinelerra source?02:40
apricotmy player is amaro-xine02:40
gnomefreakMagnusGoldstein: sudo apt-get build-dep cinelerra02:41
gnomefreakMagnusGoldstein: after those 2 commands everything should be there for you02:41
roryyMagnusGoldstein: there's no memset.h in breezy/AMD64 -- I just checked on packages.ubuntu.com02:41
FrogzooMagnusGoldstein: 'apt-get source cinelarra' & x fingers02:41
MagnusGoldsteincheers... will try above after a download finishes02:41
roryymemset *is* a function in string.h, though02:41
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Boglizkhooray, i made a Hello World script02:42
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Boglizk:P02:42
Frogzoororyy: maybe it's excluded by #DEFs though...02:42
gnomefreakBoglizk: congrats02:42
MagnusGoldsteinapt-get, cinelerra, amd64 and me have never had much luck together02:42
Boglizklol... i actually think i had g++, just that i didnt remember it.02:43
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gnomefreakis cinelerra build for 64bit?02:43
usuario01hola02:43
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gnomefreak!es02:43
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:43
ferronicahi room02:43
newbie33how to get and install file named glib from ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/ to breezy02:43
Killazhow can I find for example all packages related to php5?02:43
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MagnusGoldsteinyes... but never found it on a repository02:43
gnomefreakKillaz: apt-cache search php02:43
ferronicahelp!02:43
gnomefreak!helpme02:44
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.02:44
Boglizklol02:44
Frogzoonewbie33: glibs should already be installed I'm guessing02:44
MagnusGoldsteinlol02:44
gnomefreakit better he wouldnt have X without it in gnome iirc02:44
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ferronicahelp!02:44
MrRioferronica: whats wrong?02:45
newbie33Frogzoo,   ./autogen.sh02:45
newbie33**Error**: You must have `glib' installed.02:45
newbie33You can get it from: ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk02:45
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ferronicabooting02:45
MagnusGoldsteinferronica: what are you asking for help with?02:45
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gnomefreakferronica: your here how bad could booting be?02:45
ferronicadual booting02:45
gnomefreakferronica: try asking a question about it02:45
Boglizkwith XP?02:46
MagnusGoldsteinwinXP / linux?02:46
Boglizki have an url02:46
Boglizksec02:46
ferronicaya both02:46
ferronicai hav two hdd02:46
ferronicasoory threee02:46
MagnusGoldsteinif you have put grub on the MBR, you are asking for trouble (IMHO)02:46
Boglizkhttp://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/02:46
gnomefreakferronica: what is wrong with it ( what errors are you getting? can you tell us anything about it?02:46
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ferronicantldr02:46
gnomefreakMagnusGoldstein: i put grub on mbr and never have a bit of trouble02:46
ferronicamissing02:46
Frogzoonewbie33: try 'locate glib'   you'll see you have many glib libraries already installed02:47
ferronicai hav two os02:47
Boglizkwhich ones?02:47
MagnusGoldsteinI used to have problems with boot loaders on the MBR with dual boot win/lin boxes02:47
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Frogzoognomefreak: think MagnusGoldstein means trouble with doze02:47
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MagnusGoldsteinI've been using a combo of bootmagic/grub since... never had a problem again02:48
Frogzoont used to lose it's lunch if you messed with the mbr02:48
gnomefreaki have to boot to that one of these days :(02:48
MagnusGoldsteinthe prob isn't grub (or lilo) it's bloody windows having a hissy fit02:48
gnomefreakif it wasnt for others in house i would throw windows out the damn windows02:49
newbie33Frogzoo, I need new glib for glade :/02:49
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gnomefreaknewbie33: apt-cache search glade02:49
FrogzooMagnusGoldstein: think it's not the problem it used to be - the standard is that those 512bytes are off limits, and I think Redmond have mended their ways02:49
MagnusGoldsteinif it wasn't for 1 or 2 pieces of software, I'd be windows free ATM02:49
gnomefreakmight want to pipe it less02:49
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Arafangionmomo77: What programs are they?02:50
momo77ubuntu dapper02:50
momo77xchat02:51
ArafangionMagnusGoldstein: What programs are they?02:51
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MagnusGoldsteinFrogzoo: Redmond may have mended their ways, but too little too late to keep me on board... once I can do on Linux, everything I need to on windows, windows is gone ;)02:51
MagnusGoldsteinAD&D Core Rules 2.0 and VirtualDubMod02:52
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FrogzooMagnusGoldstein: lol - redmond don't store data in the mbr any more, but that's not to say they've mended their ways in all other respects02:52
kbrooksMagnusGoldstein: What are these programs?02:52
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roryyhave all the archive mirrors been disabled? I'm getting that us.archive.ubuntu.com (and others) all end up pointing to archive.ubuntu.com02:53
MagnusGoldsteinfirst one is a (poorly written) proprietary program for dungeons and dragons, the second I use for converting thigns to matroska02:53
ferronicaso r u gona help me02:53
kbrooksMagnusGoldstein: name them02:54
ferronicai hav three HDD ok02:54
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ferronicagnomefreak: ok u help me02:54
ferronicagnomefreak:02:54
ArafangionMagnusGoldstein: Why don't you use a different program for d&d?  What is matroska?02:55
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niranyone know where a digital camera plugged in via a usb port would usually be located /dev/**?02:55
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MagnusGoldsteinthere aren't different programs lol (not under linux)02:55
ferronicagnomefreak: i use to boot via ubuntu,then option window came for OS choce when i choose Xp pr. ERROR --NTLDR missing02:55
MagnusGoldsteinmatroska is a video/audio file format02:55
ferronicagnomefreak: my XP is in SATA HDD02:55
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ferronicagnomefreak: i hav 3 seperate hdd02:55
aCMe[ubu] hi everbody02:56
aCMe[ubu] *everybody02:56
MagnusGoldsteinI'm going to have to debug some source I think02:56
Frogzoonir: not sure, but /dev/ttyUSB0 I'm thinking02:56
MagnusGoldstein:(02:56
ferronicagnomefreak: R u there?02:56
gnomefreakferronica: i dont think i understand you have 3 hdd and none of them boot?02:56
niralright i'll give it a try02:56
ferronicalol02:56
Boglizkwhats the command to delete something?02:56
FrogzooMagnusGoldstein: wine?02:56
ferronicagnomefreak: i hav 3 hdd, in my computer02:56
MagnusGoldsteinamdtp.c:165: warning:incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'memset'02:56
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ferronicagnomefreak: C D E02:56
ferronicaOk02:56
FrogzooBoglizk: rm02:57
MagnusGoldsteinI hope to get core rules running udner wine... eventually02:57
NixerXAnyone here using 6.06?02:57
aCMe[ubu] pls.. someone can say to me how can i upgrade my ubuntu???02:57
gnomefreakferronica: you still havent answered my questions02:57
ferronicagnomefreak: what02:57
gnomefreakNixerX: #ubuntu+1 for dapper02:57
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FrogzooaCMe[ubu] : which release r u on atm?02:57
NixerXgnomefreak thx02:57
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ferronicagnomefreak: ok ask again02:57
gnomefreakferronica: what doesnt boot?02:57
ferronicagnomefreak: Xp02:58
gnomefreakferronica: are you getting any grub choices?02:58
aCMe[ubu] i want to upgrade to breazy02:58
ferronicagnomefreak: yes02:58
ferronicagnomefreak: from there when i choose Xp02:58
ferronicagnomefreak: NTLDR missing02:58
gnomefreakferronica: your issue is with windows see #windows   more than likely something you need is not there02:58
aCMe[ubu] [Frogzoo] : i want to upgrade my ubuntu to breazy02:58
gnomefreaksee there you go02:58
gnomefreakubotu tell aCMe[ubu]  about upgrade02:59
ferronicagnomefreak: what i do02:59
gnomefreakferronica: type /j #windows02:59
ferronicagnomefreak: why so02:59
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Boglizkubotu tell Boglizk about upgrade02:59
aCMe[ubu] tks gnomefreak02:59
ferronicagnomefreak: my Xp is allright02:59
gnomefreakferronica: ubuntu boots fine correct?02:59
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ferronicagnomefreak: yes03:00
gnomefreakxp is not booting you said that tells me its not alright03:00
ferronicagnomefreak: Xp is all right, but to use Xp i hav to change boot device from CMOS03:00
FrogzooaCMe[ubu] : edit your /etc/apt/source.list - change all mentions of hoary to breezy, then 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'03:00
ferronicagnomefreak: everytime03:00
Frogzoo!tell aCMe[ubu]  about upgrade03:00
FrogzooaCMe[ubu] : also see the pm from ubotu03:01
aCMe[ubu] ok i see.. thanks03:01
aCMe[ubu] Frogzoo03:01
ferronicagnomefreak: to use Xp i hav to change boot device from CMOS03:01
gnomefreakferronica: NTLDR has nothing to do with ubuntu its a windows issue (if winodws was ok you wouldnt havet o do anything to boot to it just choose it)03:01
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ferronicagnomefreak: but when i choose Xp from GRUB03:02
movidoes nautilus support afp shares ?03:02
ferronicagnomefreak: ERROR came NTLDR missing03:02
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[nige] hi all03:02
momo77hi03:03
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gnomefreakferronica: yes i know that but that has _nothing_ to do with grub nor ubuntu03:03
[nige] anyone know how to change from gdm to xdm?03:03
apricoti hided menu bar in amarok-xin, how to get it back, plaese!!!03:03
ferronicagnomefreak: then what03:03
gnomefreakNTLDR = NT BOOT LOADER IIRC03:03
ferronicagnomefreak: problem with Xp03:03
gnomefreaknt = windows platform03:03
ferronicagnomefreak: i dont thibk so03:03
gnomefreakferronica: /j #windows03:03
Killazuhm I want apt-get to install everything of apache2 again... b'cause I deleted the /etc/apache/apache2.conf but when I install apache2 again using apt-get it doesnt make that file03:04
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ferronicagnomefreak: agin i wanna told u my win Xp is allright03:04
ferronicaOk03:04
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ubuntu_y have a process called partman _newlayo that's eating all of mi system resource , what is it ? if y kill him it will reapear with anouther pid03:04
apricoti hided menu bar in amarok-xine, how to get it back, help plaese!03:04
Killazis there a way to force apt-get to install ALL files of a package again?03:04
ferronicagnomefreak: Xp unable to boot from GRUB03:04
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gnomefreakferronica: /j #ubuntu-ko please03:05
ferronicagnomefreak: shud i type it in terminal03:05
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gnomefreakferronica: no in here03:05
agabushow can i check my system uptime?03:05
ubuntu_y have a process called partman _newlayo that's eating all of mi system resource , what is it ? if y kill him it will reapear with anouther pid03:05
[nige] agabus, uptime03:05
gnomefreakask them in that channel its you native language03:05
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ferronicagnomefreak: sorry i didnt get03:06
Frogzooubuntu_: I wouldn't go killing anything called partman unless I know what it was doing03:06
[nige] agabus, also install uptimed, then type uprecords03:06
agabus[nige]  - sweet, cheers03:06
thatGuy_I'm having trouble with ndiswrapper on here03:06
FrogzooKillaz: dpkg --purge, apt-get install03:06
[nige] agabus, uptimed, will give a list of its top 10 uptime list03:06
ferronicagnomefreak: what i do now????03:06
thatGuy_I'm getting this:03:06
thatGuy_"SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory"03:06
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gnomefreak!ko03:06
ubotuFor Korean help, /join #ubuntu-ko03:06
agabus[nige]  - uptimed seems not to work?03:06
[nige] thatGuy_, are you running as root?03:06
gnomefreakferronica: ^^^03:07
thatGuy_yes03:07
ubuntu_what does partman doing ?03:07
[nige] agabus, you need to install uptimed :) apt-get install uptimed03:07
ChadzaI'm running ubuntu on my laptop, and every 2 or 3 minutes, a message pops up saying my battery is charged.  It's plugged in when it does this, and so how do I keep the message from coming up constantly?03:07
agabus[nige]  - fair enough, thanks03:07
momo77who is Korean?03:07
polopoloHello03:07
[nige] agabus, then uprecords03:07
Frogzooubuntu_: dunno, what are you running related to partition management?03:07
gnomefreakferronica: is momo7703:07
thatGuy_i get that on iwlist and i get something similar when i try to open network connection gui ulitity03:07
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assilvanuneshello03:07
polopoloCan I install .rpm file's on ubuntu?03:07
momo77r u korean? gnome03:07
ubuntu_absolutly nothing03:07
AlthNot easily, polopolo03:07
gnomefreakpolopolo: try not to03:07
[nige] thatGuy_, can you bring the interface up?03:07
gnomefreakmomo77: no03:07
thatGuy_SIOCSIFFLAGS: error:  No such Device03:07
PuMpErNiCkLepolopolo: You can, using alien, but you probably shouldn't.03:07
ubuntu_no whait,03:08
[nige] oh sounds like you have no device drivers installed :)03:08
gnomefreakpolopolo: what are you trying to install?03:08
thatGuy_not on ifconfig03:08
momo77go tp irc.hanirc03:08
[nige] my wireles runs under ifconfig :)03:08
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[nige] thatGuy_, mine is ifconfig wlan0 up03:08
polopoloNotting03:08
thatGuy_NigelS, it does show on iwconfig though03:08
momo77there r lots of korean03:08
[nige] hmm03:08
[nige] check to see if you have it loaded under ndiswrapper03:08
[nige] there is a command for it, but i cant remember it off the top of my head03:09
agabus[nige]  - trying to apt-get uprecords says couldn't find package uprecords03:09
thatGuy_[nige] , what's weird is that its not even  a name like wlan003:09
thatGuy_[nige] , its eth003:09
[nige] agabus, uptimed is that package, uprecords is the command to see your uptimes03:09
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[nige] thatGuy_, is your other nic enabled?03:09
thatGuy_[nige] , when i do ifconfig up for it , is when i get SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory03:09
agabus[nige]  - k thanks03:09
thatGuy_yes03:09
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KillazFrogzoo: ok..03:09
[nige] thatGuy_, hmm it sounds like your drivers arent installed03:10
thatGuy_[nige] , yeah, i'm trying to use ndiswrapper03:10
apricothow to completely remove amarok03:10
ferronicagnomefreak: tell me03:10
stjepanhuh.... don't you guys think today window managers are very bad? why is the windowing system working like that?03:10
thatGuy_[nige] , this thing has never ever 'just worked' for me03:10
ferronicagnomefreak: i can understand english03:10
Warboapricot: "sudo apt-get remove --purge amarok"03:11
[nige] thatGuy_,  there is an ndiswrapperto tell you whats loaded and whats not03:11
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thatGuy_right03:11
thatGuy_[nige] , it shows loaded.. ndiswrapper -l03:11
gnomefreakferronica: not really well your not because i have told you over and over that the error you are getting is a windows issue not ubuntu to join #windows03:11
james__Hello Again03:11
[nige] thatGuy_,  is the hardware present too?03:12
thatGuy_[nige] , says hardware is present03:12
[nige] thatGuy_,  everything takes a little while to work03:12
james__i installd the deb file like u seid and i can not find were it installed 203:12
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[nige] wanna give me a shell to your box?03:12
[nige] thatGuy_,  what to give me a shell to your box?03:12
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ompaulferronica, you mighe want to see this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KoreanTeam03:12
gnomefreakjames__: dpkg -L packagename03:12
thatGuy_[nige] , i guess03:12
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stjepanwhy are there overlapping windows? Why are there windows which are small? Don't you think there must be all the screen space used, so all windows must use all the screen space? Don't you think the type-point-click-type-point-click model is not very fast to use? Don't you think today window managers are too complex and they are too slow? Don't you think keyboard should be used as much as possible?03:12
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thatGuy_[nige] , just need some instructions on how to do that03:13
stjepanwhat are you opinions of this?03:13
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Boglizkshortcuts ftw :p03:13
thatGuy_[nige] , not really detailed, i'm not extremely new to linux, just haven't done that before03:13
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gnomefreakstjepan: please ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic03:13
Warbostjepan: I like E16 with LOADS of workspaces, so no windows overlapping :)03:13
[nige] thatGuy_,  its all goood03:13
smli just lost my window borders in xubuntu? any ideas?03:13
BoglizkWhats xubuntu?03:14
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thatGuy_[nige] , is all you need is a user account and for me to enable ssh?03:14
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ferronica_hi03:14
gnomefreakBoglizk: ubuntu with xfce instead of gnome03:14
Warbosml: What is the window manager in XFCE? Try killall "windowmanagercommand"03:14
ompaulsml, ask that one #xubuntu mabe03:14
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Boglizkoh..03:14
ferronica_gnomefreak: will u help me or not03:14
deefziwhere can i from vmmon/vmnet from menuconfig?03:14
apricotplease, this is stupid; i hided menu bar in amarok-xine and now i do not know to bring it back, help please!03:14
Boglizki only knew of KDE and GNOME :p03:14
[nige] thatGuy_,  did you get my msg03:14
[nige] ?03:14
ferronica_gnomefreak: will u please03:14
thatGuy_[nige] , no03:14
gnomefreakBoglizk: xubuntu has iso now with dapper03:14
ferronica_gnomefreak: please buddy03:15
stjepanWarbo, see www.wmii.de03:15
erUSULstjepan: you can use "ion" or "ratpoison" if you think they are more apropiate and/or productive03:15
gnomefreakferronica_: i cant help you this is not a windows support channel03:15
WarboBoglizk: There are LOADS of possible environments you can use, but GNOME and KDE are the most complete03:15
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ompaulferronica_, have a look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KoreanTeam03:15
gnomefreakxfce file manager is thundar03:15
BoglizkProbably why i've only heard of them then03:15
ferronica_gnomefreak: i dont know korean03:15
stjepanerUSUL, yes, but are you feeling comfortable when using GNOME or KDE?03:15
erUSULstjepan: the good thing about free software is "*choice*"03:15
stjepanI know03:15
erUSULstjepan: yes03:15
gnomefreakferronica_: you said yesterday you were korean03:15
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ferronica_gnomefreak: but i grew up in singapore03:16
EvilDindo anyone know why my apt-get update bind do much on all links and reverse the m to ip 85.133.25.7, which is now not working, how could i make him to connect for example to 85.133.25.8, which works03:16
[nige] thatGuy_, install openssl, install ssh, make sure you have port on your firewall open for ssh03:16
newbie33!gtkmm03:16
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, newbie3303:16
ompaulferronica_, so what is your native language?03:16
ferronica_gnomefreak: my first language is english03:16
apricotplease, this is stupid; i hided menu bar in amarok-xine and now i do not know to bring it back, help please!03:16
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WarboEvilDin: Did you "upgrade" or "update". To update a single package just use "install bind"03:17
ferronica_gnomefreak: So now will u help me03:17
gnomefreakferronica_: than why dont you understand what i am telling you or are you here to fight with me?03:17
newbie33does someone knows how to get gtkmm?03:17
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erUSULit is your choice as it is mine which tools to use. discousions of emacs vs vi gnome vs kde... linux *BSD are fruitless and a waste of time and energy. use whatever you like and be done with it.03:17
lostbyte_laptopWhat are these configuration files that come with the packages ?03:17
gnomefreaknewbie33: apt-cache search gtk | less03:17
ferronica_gnomefreak: i told u i am new in linux03:17
ferronica_very new03:17
EvilDinwhen i make update or upgrade i get evrythingin erros becuase of server which doesn't works03:17
KillazFrogzoo: no luck...03:17
ferronica_gnomefreak: and i already told u my problem03:17
thatGuy_[nige] , i'd have to give you root too...03:17
EvilDinso i need to fix somehow this03:17
ompaulferronica_, it appears your question is about the windows operating system we don't do windows here please go to the channel  ##windows03:17
gnomefreakferronica_: the problem you are having is caused by windows please join #windows for help on your issue03:17
Warbolostbyte_laptop: They tell the software how to run. Settings are usually in /etc and preferences are in your home03:18
ferronica_gnomefreak: no no03:18
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KillazI want the apache2 package to install the all the .conf file again and not only httpd.conf03:18
[nige] thatGuy_, unfortunately03:18
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lostbyte_laptopWarbo, ok ! so they dont usually go if you remove them.03:18
ompaulferronica_, stop annoying him03:18
[nige] thatGuy_,  you could always put me in the sudoer group03:18
ferronica_gnomefreak: with GRUB03:18
lostbyte_laptopremove the application*03:18
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ferronica_gnomefreak: when i choose Xp from GRUB03:18
apricotplease, this is stupid; i hided menu bar in amarok-xine and now i do not know to bring it back, help please! Where are the conf files?03:18
lostbyte_laptopferronica, yes !03:19
gnomefreakferronica_: again NTLDR is nts boot loader not grub03:19
ferronica_gnomefreak: then y my Xp didnt start03:19
Warbolostbyte_laptop: If you tell Synaptic to "Completely Remove" or apt-get to --purge then they will go. Otherwise no (so you will keep your settings if you reinstall it later)03:19
ferronica_gnomefreak: so what i hav tto do03:19
ferronica_any idea03:19
ompaulferronica_, that is a windows problem, you fix windows03:19
lostbyte_laptopWarbo, thats nice.03:19
ferronica_ubuntu is in IDE channel03:19
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ferronica_gnomefreak: window is in sata HDD03:19
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thatGuy_[nige] , yeah,i don thtink ubuntu ever put me in that group03:19
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[nige] as default you should be03:20
thatGuy_[nige] , I always have to enter root password to do ish03:20
ferronica_gnomefreak: what i do to change channel03:20
lostbyte_laptopWarbo, also.. does apt-get or dpkg support dependences alone ? i know there are other programs that do soo..03:20
Warboferronica_: FRUB doesn't boot windows, it just lets windows boot itself. It is a windows problem03:20
[nige] thatGuy_, I think i have a link on setting up ndis03:20
[nige] thatGuy_, hold on a tick03:20
lostbyte_laptopWarbo, sorry, dependences removale*03:20
ompaulferronica_, >>>/join #windows<<<03:20
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Warbolostbyte_laptop: dpkg doesn't work out dependencies, it just moves the files around and things. apt handles the dependencies. Synaptic and aptitude control apt03:21
ferronica_gnomefreak: ok03:21
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thatGuy_[nige] , yeah. i'm all over their wiki.  i think I'm going to give a restart a try.03:21
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lostbyte_laptopWarbo, aptitude is a gui app ?03:21
[nige] thatGuy_,  what wireless nic are you using by chance?03:22
Warbolostbyte_laptop: If you have deborphan you can see which packages were installed automatically (dependencies) which are no longer needed. Aptitude uses ncurses (menus in a console)03:22
thatGuy_broadcom 430603:22
thatGuy_from what it seems03:22
[nige] ahh03:22
thatGuy_i tried the 4318 driver, and it didn't work03:22
[nige] i think i might have the same card03:22
[nige] oh03:22
[nige] oh03:22
thatGuy_just i know that i have bluetooth on my card too and i want that to work as well03:22
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[nige] thatGuy_, I had to hack the driver out of mephis to get it working on my laptop03:22
lostbyte_laptopWarbo, ok ! one last thing.. have you any idea on gtkrc and how i can add new themes ?03:22
apricotin wich directory lays conf files of amarok, please!?03:22
[nige] I think I still have a copy of it03:23
thatGuy_[nige] , mephis?03:23
ferronica_what i do to join window channel03:23
[nige] thatGuy_, simply mephis, another distro..wireless worked straight out the box03:23
ompaulferronica_, /join ##windows <<<<<<<<<03:23
thatGuy_lol03:23
Warbolostbyte_laptop: Get the gnome-art package to automatically install themes from art.gnome.org. To install them manually just decompress them in $HOME/.themes (and icon themes in $HOME/.icons)03:23
ferronica_join channel03:24
ferronica_i did03:24
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thatGuy_ferronica, now go talk in there03:24
apricotwhen installed, where is amarok-xine on the drive, please?03:24
lostbyte_laptopWarbo, where does  the gtkrc file go ?03:24
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lostbyte_laptopin .themes i guess ?03:25
Killaz!apache203:25
ubotuKillaz: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:25
Warboapricot: Synaptic > right click on package and go properties. Installed Files will tell you everything it has installed03:25
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Killazdamn this means a new installation of ubuntu.....03:25
Warbolostbyte_laptop: I think so03:25
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apricoti would like to know the directory of amarok-xine, where is it located?03:26
Killazdoes someone have the apache2.conf file...03:26
lostbyte_laptopWarbo, thanks, i'll give it a manual try first and tell you about it.. brb03:26
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Warboapricot: It is split up all over the place, this isn't windows03:26
lostbyte_laptopWarbo, oh and thanks for the apt-get info too :)03:26
Warbolostbyte_laptop: np03:26
apricotok, got that.03:26
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alexx860hi03:27
Warboalexx860: Hi03:27
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thatGuy_[nige] , or anyone else, is it a bad thing when your wireless interface is named eth0?03:27
Boglizkhow come g++ cant compile .cpp files? (i'm following a tutorial)03:27
[nige] thatGuy_, normallly its a bad thing03:27
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[nige] thatGuy_,  plug your nic in and see what addrress it gets03:27
lostbyte_laptopBoglizk, try gcc03:27
gnomefreakBoglizk: g++ file.cpp -o file03:27
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Boglizkkty03:28
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[nige] thatGuy_,  if it "eth0" gets an address then you know its using the nic not the wireless03:28
thatGuy_[nige] , its so weird, iwconfig see it as having a wireless extension, the gui networks app see it as a wireless card..03:28
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Killazis the apache2.conf file downloaded during the installation of apache2? There is no documentation which file is being d/l and where on the documentation section of ubuntu03:28
thatGuy_[nige] , my nic is eth103:28
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thatGuy_[nige] , I'm on it right now03:28
[nige] hmm03:28
[nige] okay03:28
[nige] it should be okay ten03:28
thatGuy_[nige] , ok, but i get some conflicting info in other places....03:29
WarboKillaz: It gives you an example file I think. If it's not in /etc then look in /usr/share/docs03:29
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alexx860I have two screens, can I deplace window from one to another? (I have 2 differents taskbars, ..)03:29
KillazWarbo: but why if you delete the example apache2.conf it wont put it back if you reinstall the package?03:29
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thatGuy_[nige] , if i do iwlist eth0 scanning, i get "eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning : No such device"03:30
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[nige] thatGuy_, I get that too on my nic03:30
[nige] but its okay :)03:30
WarboKillaz: Maybe it remembers this as "your settings". Try purging it then reinstalling03:30
thatGuy_lol03:30
thatGuy_alright03:30
thatGuy_alright, so i set the essid with iwconfig... but it doesn't see the ap03:30
KillazWarbo: I already tried that sudo dpkg --purge apache203:31
thatGuy_btw, do i always have to know the essid?03:31
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thatGuy_what if i want to scan for open networks?03:31
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[nige] thatGuy_, Here is a good place to start http://antonym.org/node/8903:31
^h0rse^helo03:31
ferronica_hey no one is in ## windows03:31
Boglizktry with just one #03:31
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WarboBoglizk: It has two03:32
Boglizkwhy?03:32
gnomefreak#windows will bring you to ##windows03:32
WarboBoglizk: Because it's Windows? :)03:32
Boglizker.. k03:32
DBO92 people are in windows...03:32
DBOI just went there03:32
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WarboKillaz: Try getting the apache2 deb file, extract it and look in data for the config file03:33
MagnusGoldsteinokay... got a lot further that time with the compile03:34
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ompaulferronica_, there were 92 there when I was there with you, if they don't answer it is not our problem, NT Loader not working is nothing to do with Ubuntu which is linux03:34
MagnusGoldsteinhad another error, but I think I already solved it03:34
WarboKillaz: It should be in /var/cache/apt/archives03:34
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ompaulferronica_, I don't mean to sound harsh but you would not bring a sick person to a mechanic we don't do that windows stuff03:34
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ZarephathAnyone suggest a nice bells and whistles terminal program other than konsole or the gnome-terminal?03:35
thatGuy_this is such a headache.  i have never installed a distribution where this ish just worked03:35
thatGuy_i been at this for hours. it took me a week to get it even somewhat working with fc403:35
thatGuy_and i mean partially03:35
KillazWarbo: ok.. lemme figure out how to extract a .deb file03:36
WarboKillaz: You can do it with dpkg (I'm not sure how) but file-roller cn do it03:36
ompaulZarephath, they are all just xterms modified and you can do a lot to the shell, so xterm and work with the rc file get it up to a few K that should take a couple of weeks for you to get bored with :)03:36
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ferronica_hey how to get minu list from ubuntu03:37
ferronica_what command03:37
Zarephathdpkg install or X for extract :-)03:37
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Warboferronica_: less /boot/grub/menu.lst will show you it's contents03:37
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ferronica_command03:37
thatGuy_[nige] , that's a good website.  i'm giong through their steps03:37
ferronica_i wanna to see it03:37
[nige] yep, I added the repeated onese03:38
Warboferronica_: The n do as I said "less /boot/grub/menu.lst"03:38
Zarephathompaul: K thanks...03:38
[nige] unfortunately the link to theweirdone.iwarp is dead03:38
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ompaulferronica_, to edit >> sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.list<<03:38
martynhow do i do a auto upgreade to Drapper from brezzy03:38
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buithuhien#help03:39
_jasonmartyn: do you understand dapper is still in beta?03:39
ferronica_no i wanna to see it03:39
ferronica_in notepad03:39
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buithuhienhi everybosy03:39
Zarephathmartyn: First edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change breezy to dapper..then apt-get update...then apt-get dist-upgrade03:39
Warbomartyn: Change your sources.list (sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list) to say dapper instead of breezy then update and dist-upgrade03:39
buithuhieneverybody03:39
martyn_jason: Yeah03:39
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buithuhieni'm newbie03:39
_jasonubotu: tell martyn about upgrade03:39
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buithuhiencan you show me how to login in root03:39
Warbobuithuhien: You don't want that if you are a newbie03:40
martyn_jason: i jave been using it for a while on my laptop and fell happy with ut03:40
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ZarephathYou don't "login to root" you use sudo <command>03:40
ferronica_give me the command03:40
ferronica_to see menu.list03:40
ferronica_ok03:40
_jasonferronica_: gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst03:40
MrTrickif you want to execute a couple of commands as root...03:40
MrTrickuse sudo -i03:40
buithuhienbut it requires pass03:40
ompaulferronica_, you have been given that several times03:40
MrTrickthen 'logout' to exit back to the normal user03:40
buithuhienyes03:40
Warbobuithuhien: It is your password, not root's03:40
buithuhieni want to run a app03:41
ZarephathYes use your password you used to login03:41
buithuhienbut it's default03:41
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inwardsMy volume control icon has gone missing -- both by the clock and in Totem.  Any ideas?03:41
Warbobuithuhien: There is no default password (are you in the Live CD?)03:41
AurelianHi, im having problems with the CD/DVD release. it boots fine, but when it gets to actually installing, it says it cannot read from disk, (i checked all the usual, re-create, diff cds drives) happens with all of them, so im wondering if anyone else is having this problem?03:41
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buithuhienno i install from cd03:42
inwardsActually, the control is still there, but the icon is missing.03:42
newbie33where I could find package libglademm-2.4 its for glade03:43
Warbobuithuhien: Then you can log in as your normal user, yes? If that is the first user you made then "sudo command" and your normal password will let you run an app as super user03:43
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Zarephathnewbie33: Did you apt-cache search libglade.*?03:43
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gnomefreaknewbie33: apt-cache search libglademm03:43
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ZarephathHi gnomefreak...03:44
newbie33thanks03:44
gnomefreakhi03:44
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Beetlejuicetenho uma duvida sobre temas, alguem me pode ajudar?03:45
ompaul!br03:45
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.03:45
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punkrockguy318I'm creating a package.  How can a make my package be in the Open WIth menu in nautilus?03:45
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buithuhiensorry can i ask a question03:46
OlliKyes03:46
buithuhienhow can i run a *.mp3 from terminor ?03:46
ferronicamy firefox is not running03:46
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OlliKbuithuhien: you must use a command-line program that plays mp3s03:47
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Warbobuithuhien: To run it in something like XMMS type "xmms file.mp3" to run it in a completely console player install mpg123 or 32103:47
OlliKbuithuhien: you need a player to play .mp3 files03:47
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OlliKbuithuhien: if you type xmms file.mp3, it will start the xmms player which is like winamp03:47
MrTrickHmm.... where's the entry meant to be that starts apache?03:47
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MrTrick(on bootup)03:48
ferronicahelp me03:48
OlliKbuithuhien: but if you don't want to run a program with GUI, install mpg12303:48
WarboMrTrick: /etc/init.d03:48
MrTrickthanks Warbo03:48
ferronicamy firefox is not running???03:48
ferronicamy firefox is not running???03:48
OlliKferronica: why not?03:48
Warboferronica: A little more specific?03:48
ferronicai dont03:48
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ferronicawhen i click on it03:48
OlliKferronica: what does it say when you try to start it?03:48
ferronicait get minimized03:48
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OlliKferronica: what happends when you try to maximize it?03:49
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ferronica firefox  nothing03:49
ferronicaafter sometime it get closed03:49
buithuhienollik : thanks03:49
OlliKbuithuhien: np03:49
ferronicaollik; ??03:49
OlliKferronica: I've never seen this kind of problem before...03:50
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ferronicaollik: what i do now???03:50
OlliKferronica: Try to re-install firefox03:50
OlliKferronica: sudo apt-get remove firefox03:50
newbie33kilall firefox-bin03:50
ferronicafrom termianl03:50
Zarephathactually remove and then re-install firefox03:50
OlliKor is it mozilla-firefox03:50
ferronicahow to remove it all03:50
OlliKferronica: then sudo apt-get install firefox03:50
Linux_Junkieferronica what is the output when start firefox from the terminal ?03:50
sHaDeE Lo scudetto se ne va.....sahudhsaudhasud03:50
ferronicai hav FF1.503:50
WarboOlliK: mozilla-firefox is meta-package I think03:50
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OlliKWarbo: rgr03:50
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ferronicai dont know how to start from terminal03:51
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ferronicai just clcik that icon03:51
Linux_Junkiemozilla-firefox03:51
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OlliKferronica: you can usually start from terminal just by typing the name of the program03:51
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Linux_Junkiewhen starting things in terminal you get extra verbose information.03:51
ompaulferronica, firefox in a terminal03:51
OlliKferronica: just type firefox in terminal window03:51
Linux_Junkieferronica by starting in the terminal you can usually see at which job it hung up at.03:51
ferronica(firefox-bin:11450): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib03:52
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OlliKferronica: then it will start the firefox but you will also see info that it gives to the terminal window03:52
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ferronicai typed ---mozilla-firefox03:52
ferronicathis error came Up03:52
Linux_Junkieferronica are you in as root ?03:52
ferronicayes03:53
ferronicai am the owner03:53
ferronicaof my computer03:53
Warboferronica: Don't do stuff as root 1) You can break your system 2) You won't use your own preferences03:53
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buithuhienoh i have a bin file (real player from internet ) and i don't know to install it . please help me03:53
Linux_Junkieferronica, try running as user03:53
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ompaulferronica, you should not be logged in as root, it is not the way you get the most out of ubuntu03:53
Linux_Junkiehehe03:53
newbie33:)03:54
Warbobuithuhien: Sure. Can you navigate around in a terminal?03:54
Linux_Junkieso is it true the new version of ubuntu is delayed til the windows vista release ???03:54
newbie33yesterday I had the same prolem with ff03:54
newbie33simply reinstall it03:54
buithuhienwarbo : yeas03:54
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gnomefreakLinux_Junkie: no dapper will be released june 103:54
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Linux_Junkiegnomefreak, ahh nods.03:55
ompaulLinux_Junkie, no, we will most likely have 2 if not three releases out by then03:55
buithuhieni login as root03:55
newbie33dapper is beter than breezy?03:55
Linux_Junkiegnomefreak, thinking of perhaps trying out ubuntu yet again.03:55
ompaulbuithuhien, who advised you to?03:55
gnomefreaknewbie33: dapper is same as breezy for most part03:55
Linux_Junkiegnomefreak, been a gentoo user for a long time now.03:55
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sethkbuithuhien, usually you would just do   ./filename.bin    assuming it is in the current directory03:55
buithuhienby sudo -i command and type my password (buithuhien)03:55
Warbobuithuhien: OK. Just go to the directory where it is installed (in a terminal) and type "chmod 755 filename.bin" then "sudo ./filename.bin" that dot is very important03:55
tonyyarussoLinux_Junkie: We're going to have Dapper AND Edgy out before Vista  :)03:55
sethkbuithuhien, you may also have to do this (first):  chmod +x filename.bin03:55
Linux_Junkietonyyarusso, any of which will have some xgl goodness ?03:56
buithuhienthanks everyone03:56
gnomefreakvista last i heard is nov of 200703:56
Linux_JunkieI heard vista was coming out sometime next year hah.03:56
ompaulgnomefreak, so that is like 2008 with slippage?03:56
joelitognomefreak: Jan 2007 would be more accurate03:56
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ompauland it was what due in 2003?03:56
tonyyarussoLinux_Junkie: You can get Xgl on Dapper, although it will take some work and might be a little fuzzy at this point; we should see leaps and bounds by October for Edgy.03:56
gnomefreakompaul: yep its been delayed 3 times already lol03:56
Warbosethk: I still can't get the havg of chmod using the rwx options, I just use the numbers03:56
sethkdon't use numbers with chmod.  the correct thing to do is  chmod +x   for execute03:56
tonyyarussoompaul: Yep.03:56
sethkWarbo, the numbers are an invitation to make a serious mistake03:57
buithuhienoh sorry i am  still  not understand03:57
sethkWarbo, what is difficult about +x?03:57
newbie33how to configure laptop touchpad, its very sensitive03:57
ferronicaso what i do03:57
chicheu+x?03:57
buithuhieni want to install realplayer.bin03:57
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sethkchiche, +x is the same as u+x03:57
gnomefreakjoelito: im going on what a xp tech told me when i asked03:57
chicheo+x etc.03:57
Warbosethk: I just don't get it, it doesn't seem to change in a way that I understand. I've played about adding and taking away permissions then ls -l03:58
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ompaul!tell buithuhien about restricted03:58
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ferronicawhat i do03:58
Warbobuithuhien: To run it either type "sudo sh filename.bin" or "sudo ./filename.bin"03:58
ompaulbuithuhien, that web page that the bot sent you will help you with lots of stuff including realplayer the way it works on Ubuntu03:58
ferronicamy firefox is not running???03:58
sethkWarbo, I want it to be executable, I use +x.  I want it not to be executable, I use -x.  no problem at all03:58
ferronicamy firefox is not running???03:58
ferronicawhat to do now03:58
Linux_Junkieferronica, heh03:58
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Linux_Junkieferronica, go into user right03:58
chicheis sudo safe?03:58
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Warbosethk: How do you change it per user/group/other?03:58
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gnomefreakchiche: yes03:58
ompaulchiche, yes03:58
Linux_Junkieferronica, wipe out .mozilla/firefox directory03:59
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aCMe[ubu] help! how can i listen mp3 on xmms???03:59
chiche(hehe)03:59
sethkWarbo, g+x, g-x, o+x, o-x03:59
Warbochiche: for what exactlt? Giving to a script kiddy? no03:59
gnomefreakubotut ell aCMe[ubu]  about mp303:59
Linux_Junkieferronica, then reinstall firefox via apt-get mozilla-firefox03:59
Warbosethk: OK, I will use that in the future03:59
newbie33aCMe[ubu] ,  just open and listen03:59
sethkWarbo, much less error prone03:59
aCMe[ubu] (newbie33): xmms crash03:59
ferronicahow to go as user03:59
Linux_Junkieferronica, I had a problem with firefox not starting up with one of my laptops03:59
aCMe[ubu] he doesn't work when i listen a mp304:00
buithuhiensorry what's restricted04:00
gnomefreak!restricted04:00
ubotuit has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats04:00
ferronicain termianl04:00
Linux_Junkieferronica, i had to backup my settings on it then wipe out .mozilla/firefox directory reinstall and it worked.04:00
ompaulferronica, you can do it as root and you don't know how to do it as a user, this seems a most advanced pickle you have gotten yourself into04:00
newbie33aCMe[ubu] , try to update or reinstall04:00
Linux_Junkieferronica, you are logged as your user right ?04:00
Warboferronica: You are a normal user by default. Do not use sudo unless you are changing your system04:00
Linux_Junkieferronica, you should automatically log in as user.04:00
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ferronicaright04:00
Linux_Junkieferronica, hah well seems like there are tons of people in here already to help, gonna go buy a pack of smokes.04:01
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Linux_Junkiettyl ubuntu channel.04:01
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aCMe[ubu] newbie33, sudo .. ?04:01
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ferronicawhat04:01
ferronicahelp me04:01
ferronicahelp me04:01
ferronicahelp04:01
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Linux_Junkiewth hah04:01
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Linux_Junkieferronica, just told you what to do.04:01
ferronicawhat i type in terminal04:02
ferronicatell me04:02
ferronicafirst04:02
ferronicaok04:02
newbie33aCMe[ubu] ,  sudo apt-get upgrade xmms04:02
Linux_Junkieferronica, ok04:02
aCMe[ubu] tks04:02
apokryphosferronica: please stop being annoying.04:02
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Warboferronica: Are you using FF1.5? Did you follow the Wiki guide? Have you tried regular FireFox? All of this as a normal user?04:02
apokryphosor that happens :)04:02
Linux_Junkieferronica, do this "cp -r .mozilla/firefox ~/firefox.backup04:02
gnomefreaklol04:02
Linux_Junkie"04:02
gnomefreakguys its gone04:02
newbie33:)04:02
gnomefreakits = he/she/not sure04:02
Linux_Junkieferronica,  take out the quotes04:02
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Linux_Junkierofl04:03
Linux_Junkiestare.04:03
gnomefreakhow many times can someone leave without comming back?04:03
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Linux_Junkiegnomefreak, start counting.04:03
WarboAnyone know of an euae package or should I just run it from it's own directory?04:03
Hoxzeris there any howto to get dmix to work?04:03
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apokryphos!dmix04:04
ubotuI heard dmix is first try system>prefrences>multimedia system selector change it to alsa. for oss application type aoss <appl name> if still have problems then http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin04:04
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JowiIs there a way to automatically put files in userdirectories when that user is created? Example: create a new user and a specific .muttrc is put in /home/user04:04
WarboJowl: Put stuff in /etc/skle04:04
Knorrie_Jowi: see /etc/skel04:04
Jowithanks Warbo and Knorrie04:04
Linux_Junkiehah04:04
WarboWow. Two spelling mistakes in one message!04:04
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gnomefreakbrb smoke04:05
sethkJowi, there is a capability to build a skeletal directory for use in creating each new user's home directory04:05
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ompaulban avoidence hate that04:05
Warbosethk: There is a gui program that uses Xnest, but I forget it's name. I remember it says "All your settings are belong to us"04:06
Jowisethk: yeah, I found the skel example, thanks :)04:06
chicheeh, installing too many FF plug-ins, is it good for you?04:06
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chicheWarbo, hahaha04:07
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Warbochiche: That is not the UNIX way. Use external players for playing movies and music. Use external download managers, etc. like Epiphany does. 1 program does 1 task REALLY WELL04:07
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DE_Retireetest04:08
chicheis epiphany still alive?04:08
gnomefreakchiche: yes04:08
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Warbochiche: It is part of GNOME, I use it04:08
apokryphosDE_Retiree: failed04:08
ompaulCraiZE, #ubuntu-offtopic please :-)04:08
CraiZEok04:08
chicheWarbo, not always...04:09
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Warbochiche: example? Here's one. File Roller does 1 thing. It controls archivers. Each archiver supports one archive type04:10
chicheWarbo, so?04:11
Warbochiche: Just saying, that gives you a more stable, expandable system04:11
chicheWarbo, I doubt04:11
Dr_Willisi dont.04:12
Dr_Willisi find it to be true04:12
Warbochiche: It does. If you want a better example, then you don't have to redownload TONS of programs if a major error is found in gzip (as gzip is the only gzip program)04:12
Frogzoohow do I convince apt to build me an unstripped binary?04:12
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moviby the gods! help me set up my Mac to print to my Ubuntu box using ipp04:13
chicheto work in one way is not a good idea (like the framework)04:13
chichegtk/gnome =  a framework04:13
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Warbochiche: How many archivers are there for Windows on Download.com? Loads. Why? Because each tries to do everything and fails04:13
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WarboAnyway, if nobody knows of an euae package I'm off to Richard Drummond's site (if I can remember it)04:15
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ompaulWarbo, if only there was a way to search the internet :-)04:15
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chicheWarbo, not really, for instance, mozilla > ff for me04:15
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thatGuy_[nige] 04:16
chichethe second, emacs > vim04:16
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xanvierhello all!~04:17
chichethere are dumb users/develops, there are no dumb applications04:18
xanvierjust OT, apologies, anyone knows what is happening to distrowatch website? :D I can't seem to access it...04:18
Warboompaul: rcdrummond.net? Yay first try! Anyway, would I be better off building the source or using the prebuilt one. It says it is built with: gcc 4.0.1, glibc 2.3 and libSDL 1.204:18
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chichexanvier, what's wrong with distrowatch?04:18
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xanvierhmm...it returns an empty page for me when i try to access it.04:19
MrTrickif apache isn't starting on boot... what am I doing wrong?04:19
chichexanvier, even through a proxy?04:19
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Warboxanvier: Hmmm. Have they banned you for refreshing the Ubuntu page 5000 times? :)04:19
xanvierLOLOLOL04:19
xanvierthat's not possible04:19
xanvieri only managed to install my first distro just a few days ago. Not yet a fanboy of any distro yet. :P04:20
chichexanvier, do you need distrowatch to find a good distribution?04:20
xanvier;) i managed to download slackware and ubuntu to try it out.04:20
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chichexanvier, distrowatch = ADs for me04:21
xanvierso far erm...ubuntu is what i have installed so far. heh04:21
Warboxanvier: Your first distro? Slackware? It's your choice......04:21
timgoh0Hi, I've installed Breezy 5.10 on an AMD64 machine, using kernel 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic. I've got a problem with automount with gnome-volume-manager. CDROMs automount just fine, but CDRs created in TAO don't. Manual mounting works though.04:21
thatGuy_this wireless situation is driving me up a wall04:21
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timgoh0hald tells me that 22:11:16.761 [W]  hald_dbus.c:86: No property info.callouts.add on device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_label_ when I mount a cdr.04:22
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timgoh0This is not optimal as I've got a user who would rather not mess with manual mounting.04:22
chicheespecially, the usb wireless device is pain in the @ss04:22
xanvierjust wondering, i noticed that the list of applications available are different for different desktop environment man. (e.g gnome, kde, xfce) so in this context, can anyone kindly point to me where i can find a list of apps for xfce? cant seem to find one. heh04:23
chichetwm/fvwm +104:23
timgoh0xanvier: Apps for other desktop environments will run just fine.04:23
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xanviertimgoh0: oh is it!?04:24
thatGuy_yeah. wlan cards aren't even new... dont know why linux still can't handle this ish04:24
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timgoh0There is no desktop environment dependant app. As long as the relevant libraries are there, it will run.04:24
timgoh0Apt will settle that for you.04:24
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xanvieroh i see, im a newbie here, so paiseh. apologies04:24
timgoh0So, anyone can help with the automount problem?04:24
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timgoh0xanvier: Hey, you're from .sg as well!04:24
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Warboxanvier: XFCE generally uses GNOME apps as they both use GTK libraries04:25
xanvier@timgoh0: hey hey. i was also wondering if ya came from there too. heh.04:25
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xanvierwarbo: oh i see. any good intro to GTK libraries for newbie in ya opinion? :) thanks04:26
kavefishhow might one ask apt what package provides a specific file?04:26
chicheWarbo, that's not the fault of XFCE04:26
Bone`major noob trying to get AVI working, any FAQs you guys recommend?04:26
Warboxanvier: Newbies don't need to bother with libraries. Apt will sort that out for you. Just install what you want04:26
JDahlkavefish, "dpkg -S xxx.h", for instance04:27
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kavefishthanks JDahl04:27
timgoh0kavefish: I think you want apt-cache search.04:27
chicheWarbo, if possible, I wanted a gtk/qt-free os04:27
WarboJDahl: The porno headers. Excellent, what provides that? :)04:27
JDahlWarbo, good one ;)04:28
st3v3dndHow can I ignore some of the available updates? I installed firefox 1.5 on my own, and now Ubuntu is bugging me to upgrade to 1.0.804:28
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chicheO.o04:28
simonpcaplop04:28
chicheupgrade = downgrade?04:28
st3v3dndNot necessarily04:28
st3v3dndTHere's no packages in synaptic for ff 1.504:29
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st3v3dndSo it was a manual install, I thought I read when doing that that the old install needed to be left there to avoid some problem.04:29
st3v3dndIs it safe to just uninstall the older firefox version?04:29
st3v3dndI'm running Breezy, and not Dapper04:30
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timgoh0st3v3dnd: You want to install and divert with dpkg-divert.04:30
Warbochiche: There is a meta theme thing being worked on by SymphonyOS guys which applies the same theme to GTK and QT. QT has a basic GTK pixmap thing and I have a QT theme "Polymer" installed which does something similar. You need one kind of Widget set, even if it's MUI or something04:30
timgoh0st3v3dnd: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for instructions.04:30
kolindoes ubuntu support a VIA PCI 10/100mb fast ethernet adapter (VIA Technologies, Inc). network interface card04:30
rabei do have floppy formatted in windows, if i delete everything on it, only ~400kb is free ... How to format it completely (for linux)?04:30
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Warborabe: mkfs.vfat /dev/fd004:31
Warborabe: be careful with that04:31
runew0lf:)04:31
rabewhy?04:31
chicheWarbo, I know what the x-window programming are...04:31
kavefishJDahl, timgoh0: I'm trying to determine which package I need to install to correct a build failulre (of mozilla sunbird); dpkg only tells me about what I have installed and I don't see how apt-cache can tell me what package provides a specific header file04:31
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Warborabe: If you misspell something you could format something which is not your floppy drive :)04:32
st3v3dndtimgoh0: Thanks, I'll take a look04:32
onthostI have a install question with Breezy for PPC. I get through the first half of the install, drop to a shell, install the new ramdisk and kernel to the HFS drive, then when I reboot into linux i get04:32
onthost"04:32
chicheWarbo, it's a common sense for a long time...04:32
rabemkfs.vfat /dev/hdd1 LOL aaah04:32
onthost"/scripts/local-top/evms: 31: /sbin/evms_activate not found"04:32
onthostand it dies04:32
scdhi all04:32
kavefishsomething akin to 'yum provides xxx.h' is what I'm looking for04:32
_jasonkavefish: install apt-file04:33
runew0lfwell just downloaded and installed ubuntu today....04:33
runew0lfits blummin great!04:33
rabeWarbo: mkfs.vfat: /dev/fd0 contains a mounted file system.04:33
rabe (should i unmount it wiht umount?)04:33
_jasonkavefish: usage: iniitially you must 'sudo apt-file update', then just do 'apt-file search name_of_file_I_looking_for'04:33
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Warborabe: Yes, unmount it04:33
timgoh0kavefish: apt-cache search <regex> --full will search through the entire package list. The filename should be in there.04:34
kavefish_jason, thanks I'll give that a shot04:34
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davidhousehey, on ubuntu's emacs, is there a setting i can toggle to switch it from dark colour scheme to a light one?04:34
davidhouseother than changing every. single. face.04:34
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WarboHmmm. I got a seg fault while checkinstalling euae04:34
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timgoh0kavefish: Oh, wait. Spoke too soon. Ignore the last.04:35
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JowiWarbo: using dapper?04:35
Warbojowi: Yes04:36
rabewhy does the copy process to floppy take so LITTLE time (comparing to windows)?04:36
rabeamazing04:36
kavefishtimgoh0, _jason, thanks for your help; apt-file did the trick04:36
timgoh0kavefish: Use packages.ubuntu.com?04:36
MisterNrabe: when copying a file?04:36
JowiWarbo: yes, checkingstall is broken on ls and mkdir commands. it has been fixed for ages but the package in dapper is not updated.04:36
rabecan i read a floppy formatted in windows?04:36
runew0lfi was usin slax before this, this is MUCH better04:36
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Warborabe: The files aren't copied straight away, they are kept in RAM. When you are done you unmount the disk and changes are written04:36
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rabeah ok04:36
MisterNWarbo: or hopefully on idle, also04:37
rabeWarbo: can i read a floppy formatted in windows?04:37
rabeformatted in linux04:37
rabe*04:37
Warborabe: Which is why it is important that you not just eject the disc04:37
chichea silly question, can we rebuild one ubuntu system from the source? (in theory)04:37
Warborabe: vfat is fat32, so windows and linux can read it. If you use ext2 then it is hard to get windows to read it04:38
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chichewho cares?04:38
rabebut it's basically fat32 when copying (as i did now)?04:38
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chichewindows is a dead man04:38
runew0lfmuch better04:38
Warborabe: yes, the mkfs.vfat command made a fat32 (windows) disk04:38
kolinhello im trying to install GNU/Linux without any CD, floppy, USB-key, nor any other removable media using the meathods explained on this page http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html04:38
chichelike the dos04:38
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runew0lfnaww windows will stay around for a good long while yet04:39
rabeWarbo: for ext2/3 would i use "mkfs.ext3 ... " ?04:39
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chicheif you used linux/bsd, ext2 is a good beginning04:39
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Warborabe: yes, but for some reason in the GUI floppy formatters I have seen they only use ext2 and not 3. Probably the journal takes up valuable space04:40
chicheext3 in bsd? hahahahaha04:40
runew0lfchiche, i do have to say though, the home office is contemplating changing to linux :D04:40
rabewindows is not bad, at least i'm able to play surround 5.1 (real) and my ati card does not make problems, altough that's the issue of ati more than ubuntu04:40
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chichewindows is not bad for dummies... but it still is a dead man04:41
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Frogzoorabe: open a ticket with ati & insist they bring their drivers up to standard04:41
Warborabe: As the antichrist once said: "Developers, developers, developers, developers..." It is not really Ubuntu's problem (but they still try gawd bless em)04:41
runew0lfi got windows on my desktop and ubuntu on me laptop04:41
rabeit's all bout money04:41
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rabeif every one would use linux, they would be FORCED to make decent drivers for it04:41
runew0lfand dummies make up a large percentage of our population ;)04:41
chichewindows was dead at 200104:41
Warborabe: Developers don't make stuff for non-m$ because nobody uses it. Nobody uses it because there are no apps for it. Catch 22 (which is why I hate m$ for shafting Java)04:42
rabebut still it's SO annoying having no fglrx drivers working for my radeon 9800 and no surround04:42
MrTrickI want to remove apache2, completely... dpkg --purge apache2 doesn't seem to work.04:42
chicheuntil now, there no any NEW thing in windows world04:42
Frogzoorabe: if ATI get enough pressure from a wide base, they will reconsider their shoddy resourcing of linux drivers04:42
MrTrick[in that there are lots of 'apache2' files and folders left] 04:42
jeff_hannMrTrick:slocate apache04:43
rabeFrogzoo: is there any petition made to make drivers (decent) for linux?04:43
jeff_hannthen remove'em04:43
rabei mean nvidia did the job04:43
MrTrickwhat's slocate meant to do?04:43
rabenivida rules04:43
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MrTrickah...04:43
Edgy_Eftsorry, falsches Fenster :)04:43
Frogzoorabe: dunno, I just opened a ticket to let them know I take the problem seriously04:43
jeff_hannMrTrick:first do sudo updatedb04:43
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jeff_hannit makes/updates a database of all your files04:44
Warbochiche: I always try to correct people when they say "Windows can use my device" to "Your device can use Windows" because a bare windows box would be pretty useless. Take the install CDs from all of the hardware out there and you see how good Linux driver support is04:44
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jeff_hannthen search with slocate/locate04:44
jeff_hannand remove04:44
MrTrickcool, thanks.04:44
jeff_hannn p04:44
Edgy_Eftmh....04:44
MrTrickhaving issues with apache04:44
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FrogzooMrTrick: it's a slow version of locate04:44
scd_humsg nickserv register <Pass-wd72>04:44
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Edgy_Efti use Windows XP only as a kind of "graphic driver" for World of Warcraft :)04:45
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jeff_hannman slocate04:46
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OnkelJonashi... I'm wanting to make my USB HD mp3 player have a bootable partition with ubuntu on it. Anyone got pointers that could help me?04:47
WildZeckit's not easy04:48
OnkelJonasok... is there any info about it somewhere?04:48
rabeanyoe know how to CLEAR the cache of "execute" (alt+f2)?04:49
WildZecksearch about usb distribution04:49
chichecache?04:49
OnkelJonasI have plenty of freetime at the moment, being home sick and all04:49
WildZeckfloonix04:49
WildZecketc...04:49
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OnkelJonasok thx - in the forums or04:49
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rabechiche: the cache or whatever is saved when you click on the arrow04:50
htrl2004hi. i have installed the gnome applet for change the cpu clock on my centrino. i can switch between 798 mhz, 1.06 ghz, 1.33 ghz and 1.73 ghz. but how can I set as default the 798 mhz instead of 1.73 ghz (sorry for my bad english)04:50
chichero -rf /home?04:50
chicherm04:50
gimmulf__!bluetooth04:50
ubotuwell, bluetooth is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothRemote04:50
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Edgy_Eft!sudo04:50
ubotusudo is, like, totally, a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.04:50
rabeanyone know how to CLEAR the cache (when clicking on the down-arrow) of "execute ..." (alt+f2)?04:50
Edgy_Eft!WIFI04:50
ubotuit has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto04:50
chicheI think that would do the trick04:50
rabechiche: sorry didn't see your post, trying that...04:51
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WarboOnkelJonas: I am running from my USB hard drive at the moment (sda5) so you should be able to do it. Only problem is how do you shrink the partition on your MP3 player when the firmware loads as soon as you turn it on?04:51
chichehey guys, do you have any bluetooth device?04:52
Warbochiche: I have a dongle which just works04:52
Edgy_Eft!wpa04:52
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uboturumour has it, wpa is enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant".  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto for more details04:52
Dr_Willisi synced with my bluetooth cell phone. using a usb dongle04:52
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rabechiche: rm -rf /home ?? i jsut deleted my home folder!!04:52
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Warbochiche: I bound my phone to a serial port and dialed a pay-as-you-go ISP. It wasted all of my credit04:53
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OnkelJonasI have a custom firmware that can boot in USB mode so I don't think that should be a problem04:53
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Edgy_Eft!3com04:53
ubotuEdgy_Eft: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:53
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rabehow to restore my home folder? (rm -rf /home)???04:53
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chicheit cleans your caches, isn't it?04:53
rabechiche: no!!!!04:53
rabemy home04:53
rabeyes04:53
xanviermy goodness...04:54
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rabeanyway to restore?04:54
WarboOnkelJonas: As long as you can resize the MP3 player partition with QTParted then your only other problem (if you have an old mobo like me) is booting from USB, which I overcame with a custom initrd and a GRUB CD04:54
ninjuspray pray pray...04:54
erUSULrabe: it will be imposible to recover the data.04:54
chicheI think it cleans all caches, including that in your brain04:54
ninjusand wait for miracle04:54
ninjus;->04:54
erUSULrabe: i'm afraid04:54
Edgy_Eft.oO ( cleaning also Layer 9 )04:55
rabewell it's not that important jsut had some configs (fresh install)04:55
rabechiche: do you think that's funny?04:55
rabea**hole04:55
chichewhat funny?04:55
chicheme?04:55
rabeyep04:55
chiche...04:55
newbie33what it means breezy-backports main restricted universe04:55
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rabe"rm -rf /home"04:56
_jasonubotu: tell newbie33 about backports04:56
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_jasonrabe: can we please not paste commands like that in here04:56
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ralphhello....new to ubuntu..how do i get plugins/codecs for totem?04:56
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rabewell he told me to enter this04:56
Warbo_jason: Not his fault, but really there should have been a disclaimer on it rabe04:57
rabekick that bastard ! (chiche)04:57
Edgy_Eft!op04:57
ubotuEdgy_Eft: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:57
chicheno~04:57
rabehow old are you man?04:57
chiche10?04:57
_jasonrabe: I see now04:57
Warboralph: You need Universe (Synaptic>Settings>Repositories>Add>Universe+Multiverse>OK) then install all of the "gstreamer" packages04:58
_jasonchiche: goes for you too, plese don't paste commands like you did in here without some explanation04:58
rabe_jason: anyway to recreate a new home dir?04:58
ralphthanks Warbo04:58
orbinubotu: tell ralph about multimedia04:58
rabejust a default one04:58
orbinubotu: tell ralph about restricted04:58
chicheok04:58
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Warborabe: "cp -r /etc/skel /home/username"04:59
_jasonrabe: you ran that command?04:59
rabeis there any WAY to created a home dir (default one), because if i reboot, i can not enter anymore?04:59
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cycus_zwisusms ubuntu xp unproffessional - when?04:59
brandon_i've got a really onnaying bug in dapper right now. the mixer values are going int he opposite direction. so, in other words, to raise the volume levels i push the bar down, and to lower the volume, it goes up. it's backwards04:59
roryyrabe: probably easiest just to create a new user04:59
rabe_jason: yES!!!04:59
Warborabe: Do that without /home/username existing04:59
roryyrabe: you can still boot up in recover mode04:59
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orbincycus_zwisus: sentence speak makes sense - when?04:59
newbie33is it good to have very long sources.list file?:)04:59
rabe"sudo: cannot get working directory05:00
rabe"05:00
Warbobrandon_: I found that somethimes. Really annoying, but I don;t get it anymore05:00
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roryyrabe: try 'cd /' first05:00
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apricoti have no sound in AA.05:00
rabethanks05:00
_jasonrabe: cd /, sudo mkdir -p /home/username05:00
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orbinnewbie33: it's not the size mate, it's how you use it05:00
brandon_Warbo: did you ever find out what was causing it?05:00
Warbobrandon_: Nope05:00
feistelhi05:00
feistelwhat tool I can use for configuring X ?05:00
brandon_dammit05:00
feistelcommand line tool05:00
Warboapricot: AA? ASCII Art library?05:00
apricotno, americas army05:01
roryyfeistel: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'05:01
cycus_zwisuswhat's the difference between ubuntu and windows?05:01
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Warbocycus_zwisus: You're joking right?05:01
jeff_hann:))05:01
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Frogzooactually it's a good question...05:01
Xenguy_cycus_zwisus: you have some reading to do :-)05:01
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Edgy_Eftcycus_zwisus, we all use ubuntu, no one windows05:01
WarboEdgy_Eft: Some people dual boot (I don;t)05:02
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WarboWhat is it with me and pressing ; instead of '?05:02
_jasonrabe: let me know if that worked05:02
stuzz78hello..  i have a new server install of ubuntu with xubuntu-desktop added...  how do i get sound going?05:02
jeff_hannalsaconfig05:02
rabe_jason, Warbo: i have a dir with my username05:02
Frogzoocycus_zwisus: #1 - ubuntu is open source ie you can redistribute for free, & you can recompile & modify the source05:02
rabe_jason, Warbo: i have a dir with my username and 2 files in it: .bashrc and .bash_profile05:03
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rabeis that ok?05:03
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Warborabe: If you want to "restore" your default settings then making an exact copt od /etc/skel in /home with your username will do (asfter changing it's permissions)05:03
_jasonrabe: ok, logout of gnome and come back in, it should create some stuff05:03
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rabeok05:04
_jasonrabe: Warbo makes a good point, you need to give ownership to your home first05:04
rabehow to?05:04
cycus_zwisusubuntu is the easiest  distribution, and that's why it's so popular05:04
Frogzoocycus_zwisus: #2 - ubuntu is built on linux, itself a unix derivative - whereas windows is a dos derivative, which never was built for multitasking05:04
Warbo_jason: Will it log in without .Xauthority?05:04
_jasonWarbo: should create it05:04
GameOver69hey can anyone help with getting 3d acceleration working with my ATI radeon 7500 mobility05:04
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Warbo_jason: OK.05:04
rabei made  sudo cp -r /etc/skel /home/hischam05:04
WarboGameOver69: I assume you know about fglrx?05:05
_jasonrabe: sudo chown username:username /home/username05:05
cycus_zwisuseven mandriva is more harder, that's a shame, isn't it? :/05:05
cycus_zwisusis harder*05:05
webwolf_27can somebody help me with a dhcp problem? The server ( on breezy ) appears to be configured correctly, but the client ( also breezy ) can't connect to the internet although it has an IP.05:05
GameOver69Warbo, doesnt seem to work05:05
FrogzooGameOver69: have you added 'dri' to xorg.conf ?05:05
roryy_jason: i'd add a -R to that05:05
kestaswebwolf_27: can the server access the internet?05:05
_jasonrabe: sudo chown -R username:username /home/username05:05
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_jasonroryy: thanks05:05
Warbocycus_zwisus: Madriva has some nice custom config programs, but they are KDE and they don't release them to the community like Ubuntu does05:05
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webwolf_27kestas,  I'm sitting at it now05:05
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rabe_jason:  ssudo chown -R username:username /home/username and then restart gnome?05:05
kestaswebwolf_27: and can the client ping and access the server?05:06
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delliottHi, I am having a problem installing IBM Java on PPC. It does show show in the list when I run 'sudo update-alternatives --config java'. Does anybody have experience with this?05:06
webwolf_27kestas,  yes05:06
_jasonrabe: ls -ld ~, what does it say?05:06
roryyrabe: if things go completely wrong, you can reboot in recovery mode (you will be root in that case)05:06
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kestaswebwolf_27: are you intending to use NAT or a proxy?05:06
WarboGameOver69: Sorry, I use mostly nvidia (and I have 1 ATI with just ati driver as fglrx causes random crashes)05:06
cycus_zwisusubuntu has such config programs too, but they are based on gnome05:06
webwolf_27kestas,  nat05:06
GameOver69Frogzoo, i tried that yesterday05:06
Frogzoo!tell GameOver69 about fglrx05:06
rabe_jason: drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 2006-04-22 17:04 /home/rabe05:06
GameOver69Frogzoo, that doesnt seem to work05:06
Warbocycus_zwisus: I know, but they are released to the community and I prefer GNOME anyway05:07
rabe_jason: ok so?05:07
_jasonrabe: did you change 'username' in the command to your actual username?05:07
FrogzooGameOver69: fglrxinfo | grep ATI05:07
webwolf_27kestas,  and masquerade has been added to IPTABLES05:07
MagnusGoldsteincould anyone repeat that apt-get line to get the dependencies for cinelerra? it's scrolled off of the screen lol05:07
rabe_jason yesd05:07
cycus_zwisusWarbo: gnome is more windows-like, i prefer kde05:07
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Warbocycus_zwisus: I think the exact opposite. Have you seen Konqueror?05:08
FrogzooMagnusGoldstein: page up to scroll backwards05:08
_jasonrabe: try again: sudo chown -R rabe:rabe /home/rabe05:08
GameOver69Frogzoo, that doesnt do anything05:08
kestaswebwolf_27: hmm, tbh I use freebsd with pf for my gateway, I've never used iptables05:08
Chris_TuckerIs there a working whatpulse client out there for linux?05:08
kestaswebwolf_27: but there must be some good guides out there, it sounds like you can follow them05:08
FrogzooGameOver69: then you haven't got fglrx installed - see the pm from ubotu to install the fglrx drivers05:08
MagnusGoldsteinFrogzoo: I've done that... it's right off the top...05:08
MagnusGoldstein(can't scroll that far)05:08
cycus_zwisusWarbo: i've been using konqueror for 2 years05:08
orbincycus_zwisus, Warbo : distro chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please05:08
rabe_jason: drwxr-xr-x  3 rabe rabe 4096 2006-04-22 17:04 /home/rabe, ok?05:08
GameOver69well i dont have the card for that05:08
Warboorbin: Sorry05:08
GameOver69Frogzoo, its 8500 and above05:08
GameOver69i have a 750005:09
_jasonrabe: good, now just check 'ls -ld /home' real quick05:09
FrogzooGameOver69: oh i c :(05:09
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rabe_jason: 'ls -ld /home05:09
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rabedrwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 2006-04-22 17:02 /home05:09
webwolf_27kestas,  already have, and the router ( iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE is added to the rule list, filter is set to allow on the used interface05:09
FrogzooMagnusGoldstein: sudo apt-get build-dep cinelerra05:09
_jasonrabe: ok you should be good to go, logout of gnome and back in05:09
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rabeok thanks for your help05:09
GameOver69Frogzoo, so what can i do :(05:09
WarboI'm off for some food05:10
FrogzooGameOver69: dunno, get an nvidia?05:10
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MagnusGoldsteinyep... just woprked it out lol05:10
cdubyaI use bash all the time, but I've never really dug into the guts of it and how it works.....so how do you setup a different directory to be the default prompt directory when you open a new bash session?05:10
GameOver69lol05:10
Frogzooyeh, ATI bites hard05:10
MagnusGoldsteinsource package for cinelerra does not exist :P05:10
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GameOver69Frogzoo, yeah i know05:10
GameOver69but its what came with my laptop05:11
orbinGameOver69: what card?05:11
GameOver69ati radeon 7500 mobility05:11
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FrogzooGameOver69: same deal here, pretty pissed off05:11
orbinnot sure, but i think the radeon driver provides dri.05:11
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GameOver69but i know it can be done05:11
hischamback :-) it does work, however i lost my theme :-)05:11
GameOver69ive read testimonials05:11
FrogzooGameOver69: even when it works, the performance blows05:12
hischamif i want to make a backup, waht should i backup? only home?05:12
cpl-tnt900any one have some hacking tuturials for linux ?05:12
GameOver69orbin, i tried something last night with dri, but it still doesnt seem like it works05:12
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orbinGameOver69: what current driver are you using?05:12
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apricothow to uptdate file base for searching new files?05:13
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roryyhischam: all your personal data (documents, etc etc) should be in your home directory (/home/rabe, i would imagine)05:13
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gwarkim new(b)   ...    guys ... what codec do i need to play wmv files in VLC media player ?05:13
hischamyep05:13
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orbinGameOver69: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf | tail -105:13
hischamok so only backup /home/rabe ?05:13
Frogzoohischam: /home & /etc /root & /var/www if you have a web server...05:13
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_jasongwark: the repository version will not play wmv905:13
cdubyaapricot, have you added any new repos to your list?05:13
GameOver69says "radeon"05:13
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hischamok thanks!05:14
gwark_jason , multiverse etc ?05:14
Frogzoohischam: have a long think about what you've missed before reformatting05:14
apricotno05:14
orbinGameOver69: oh.  there geos my suggestion then. :)05:14
GameOver69orbin, lol05:14
GameOver69i cant believe this is so difficult!05:14
_jasongwark: the vlc that you obtain from ubuntu's repositories can't play wmv9 is what I mean.  Only way to do it that I know of, is to recompile05:14
cdubyaapricot, are you using synaptic?05:15
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apricotyes05:15
delliottAre there any PPC Ubuntu users here?05:15
cdubyaapricot, Breezy?05:15
_jasongwark: xine or mplayer with w32codecs should handle wmv9 though05:15
gwark_jason  :   ahhh i gotcha. :)  thanks man05:15
apricotyes05:15
cdubyadelliott, yes05:15
gwark_jason o sweet cheers!05:15
hischamFrogzoo: i will make a fresh install of Dapper (i run breezy atm) so i just installed it for testing, and so nothing really went lost deleting my home dir (uff!)05:15
delliottcdubya: Do you have experience with installing the IBM Java 1.5 JRE?05:15
hajuu_hey can you get soldat for linux? :/05:15
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suicidaerm, i have to test something, so please don't hurt if there's an away-message05:16
cdubyadelliott, I think I installed that on the last one I did, but it's been awhile.....having troubles?05:16
gwarkvlc 's great .. handles much stuff without much effort :D05:16
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hischambut still it's nice how you can completely remove your home dir and create a new one without even rebooting05:16
delliottcdubya: Yes, I can install it fine using the fakeroot alien commands as mentioned on the wiki page.05:16
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GameOver69so i guess im stuck with no 3d then huh :(05:16
apricotplease this one is silly; i hided the menu bar in amarok-xine, how to bring it back!?05:17
Boglizkis it possible to have Macromedia Flash Player 8 on Linux? :s05:17
cdubyadelliott, so what's the issue?05:17
delliottcdubya: But when I try sudo update-alternatives --config java, the Java that has been installed into /opt does not show up.05:17
ralphthanks corbin.......worked great05:17
hischambtw, where are the passwords saved?05:17
cdubyadelliott, ouch.....05:17
_jasonhischam: /etc/shadow has hashes of them05:17
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Frogzoohischam: /etc/shadow05:17
hischamok05:17
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rebelliousfreedohye05:18
cdubyaapricot, in synaptic, go to Settings > Repositories05:18
cdubyadelliott, I've not had that issue as long as I chose the right one when running that command05:18
rebelliousfreedoanyone can help me?05:18
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delliottcdubya: Would you like me to pastebin exactly what I do?05:18
cdubyarebelliousfreedo, just ask :)05:18
Otacon22hi all05:18
cdubyadelliott, you can05:19
Frogzoorebelliousfreedo: it's entirely possible, but until you ask, we can't very well know05:19
cycus_zwisusimho hoary was much better than breezy05:19
delliottcdubya: Let me dpkg -r the package and start again.05:19
Frogzoocycus_zwisus: bollocks!! :p05:19
Frogzoojk05:19
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apricotplease this one is silly; i hided the menu bar in amarok-xine, how to bring it back!?05:19
cdubyaapricot, then click on the Breezy 5.10 binary server and click edit......05:19
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gorskihow to install kde desktop?05:21
cdubyaapricot, then in the Sections area, after the main and restricted, add the words universe multiverse, then click ok and close all the windows....it should prompt you to do the update at that point....05:21
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cycus_zwisussudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:21
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cdubyaapricot, ctrl-m on the menu bar05:21
roryy!tell gorski about kubuntu05:21
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rebelliousfreedowhere to find ubuntu tutorial for beginner05:22
rebelliousfreedo?05:22
apricottnx a lot!05:22
cdubyanp05:22
cdubyaapricot, you get all that about synaptic?05:22
orbinrebelliousfreedo: sys>help>starterguide05:22
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rabeisn't that a BIG SECURITY issue that i can be root in recovery mode without even typing a password?05:22
rebelliousfreedoim all messed up with microsoftwindows05:22
cycus_zwisusgorski: btw, congratulations05:22
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apricotit helped also, tnx again!05:22
onthostrabe: you have to be physically at the term however05:23
cdubyaapricot, np.05:23
onthostphysical security is the BEST security05:23
_jasonrabe: not really, anyone can pop a livecd into your machine and do as they please05:23
revartjsomebody how i can truncate to number real y mysql???????05:23
cdubyarebelliousfreedo, heh, what's the issue?05:23
Otacon22i had try to use half life on linux ubuntu with wine but it is so slow to load and i can't see the menu, i think is a directx problem, how i can fix it?05:23
rabebut then you could password protect the bios05:23
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cdubyarevartj, what are you trying to do?05:23
revartjwhat funtion i have that use05:23
Frogzoorabe: if you can get physical access, you can steal the HDs, so it's no biggie really05:24
cpl-tnt900how much gb should i allocate for ubuntu linux (+ few basic programs )05:24
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cpl-tnt900??05:24
rabeok so05:24
Frogzoorabe: however, you can passwd protect the grub screen if you like05:24
revartji want take the part integer of number05:24
redguyrabe: well if you password protect your BIOS the recovery mode would be also "protected", wouldn't it?05:24
Frogzoocpl-tnt900: 20gig is comfortable05:24
_jasonrabe: if you password protect bios they can't get to recovery mode either right?05:24
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cdubyarevartj, so you want the numbers already in the table to be ints?05:24
onthostredguy: yea but you could take the harddrives out and get the data that way05:24
cdubyarevartj, or something else05:24
cpl-tnt900Frogzoo :10x for the answere , i was told 5-10gb should do ...05:25
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redguyonthost: yes, I know that physical access == root access, you don't have to convince me05:25
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simonpcaa+05:25
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Frogzoocpl-tnt900: 20gig means not having to worry about disk, you can probably get by with less05:26
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revartji have a real number calculate and i wanted trunc for i have take the part integer05:26
can-o-wormscan someone please tell me if ubuntu shows an icon on the desktop when you put a blank cd in? or does there have to be something on it?05:26
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revartjcdubya,?05:26
riddleboxcan-o-worms, yes05:26
bookwormgot a question. want to duel book linux and xp which do i load first05:26
redguyrevartj: ok, so what does this have to do wuth ubuntu again?05:27
rebelliousfreedohow actually linux works?05:27
riddleboxbookworm, load xp first05:27
bookwormthank05:27
Frogzoobookworm: xp05:27
rebelliousfreedoi just switch to linux05:27
redguybookworm: you'll be better off if you install Winblows earlier05:27
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can-o-wormsriddlebox: yes, to which one?05:27
revartjredguy, i don't understand05:27
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riddleboxcan-o-worms, it will put an icon up when you put a cd in, if you put a floppy in, you just click the icon and it will mount, usb devices you plug in and an icon will be placed on the desktop05:28
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zP-Osamayooooooo05:28
redguyrevartj: This is the Ubuntu linux distribution support channel. I was just asking you what your question has to do with Ubuntu...05:28
JDahlrebelliousfreedo, try and google for "linux tutorial"... it's impossible to give you a quick tour over an IRC channel05:28
roryyrebelliousfreedo: try reading here: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/index.html  (same as the starterguide you were pointed to earlier).  https://wiki.ubuntu.com is a good place to look too.05:29
rabe_jason, redguy: but can you do everything as ROOT with a live-cd?05:29
can-o-wormsriddlebox: do you have to click a cd icon for it to mount, or is it mounted as soon as put it in?05:29
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redguyrabe: you can chroot from the live CD and do anything as root05:29
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suicidadoes anybody know weevils away-script for xchat and knows how to teach it to stop changing nicks on specific networks (freenode)05:29
riddleboxcan-o-worms, it is mounted when you put it in, if you want to open the cdrom drive, you have to right click on the icon and choose eject05:30
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redguyrabe: actually, you can do even more from the live cd than from the system itself05:30
apricotis it posible to listen music on amarok and play americas army for example?05:30
zP-Osamaapricot yeah if ure cpu will suport it05:30
Frogzoocan-o-worms: you can't mount a blank cd, for reasons that should be obvious05:30
delliottcdubya: http://rafb.net/paste/results/27JXL284.html <- Terminal output05:30
zP-Osamaapricot: amarok is a big cpu hog05:30
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riddleboxcan-o-worms, for a blank cd a dialog box will open asking what you want to do with it05:31
Frogzooapricot: I think only esd supports multiple simultaneous sound sources, not alsa or oss05:31
apricotwhen i start americas i have no sound when amarok plays05:31
cdubyarevartj, http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/truncate.html05:31
apricoti will try that05:31
apricotwhat is gdm and kdm?05:31
apricotdisplay menagers?05:32
_jasonalsa should, but amercas is probably using oss,05:32
revartjcdubya, thank05:32
cdubyaapricot, yes05:32
redguyFrogzoo: I think that depends on the card's ability do do hardware mixing when you use alsa.05:32
Frogzooapricot: gdm = gnome, kdm = kde (they are desktop managers)05:32
apricotaha05:32
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apricotdefault question05:32
can-o-wormsFrogzoo: exactly, but does it put up an icon or not?05:32
cdubyarevartj, np, hope that helps.....here's another that talks about it.....looks like a cast to int using  TRUNCATE(int)  http://marist89.blogspot.com/2005/09/mysql-to-oracle-dba-part-ii.html05:32
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Frogzoocan-o-worms: I somehow doubt it, for the same reason05:33
SyeHrrm, I'm trying to install xubuntu-desktop and it appears that xfwm4-themes is borked.  - - - xfwm4-themes: Depends: xfwm4 (>= 1:4.3) but 4.3.90.1svn+r21146-0ubuntu1 is installed.05:33
can-o-wormsFrogzoo: but you don't know05:33
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riddleboxcan-o-worms, it does put an icon up that says blank cdrom05:33
_jasonSye: that's because you have xfwm4 installed from svn05:33
apricotwhen i install kde, can i remove it if i do not like it?05:33
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Frogzoocan-o-worms: can't say for sure, no05:33
can-o-wormsriddlebox: thanks05:33
redguycan-o-worms: in KDE it does05:33
_jasonSye: wait, I may have misread :) what does apt-cache policy xfwm4, say?05:34
riddleboxcan-o-worms, in gnome as well05:34
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SGC|HomeHow do I change my gnome-panel to "applications places system" instead of the ubuntu start-menu style icon?05:34
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can-o-wormsredguy: riddlebox thanks05:34
_jasonSye: is this on dapper?05:35
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apricotwhen i install kde, can i remove it if i do not like it?05:35
delliottcdubya: Any ideas w.r.t. what I've done wrong there?05:35
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cdubyadelliott, I'm looking.....:)05:35
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_jason !info xfwm4-themes05:35
SGC|Homeapricot, yes, you'll be able to remove through synaptic/aptitude/apt-get/whatever05:36
ubotuxfwm4-themes: (Theme files for xfwm4), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 540 kB, Installed size: 15548 kB05:36
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SGC|Homeapricot, as long as that's how it was installed05:36
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orbinSGC|Home: add the menu bar applet, not the main menu05:36
rebelliousfreedoif we install ubuntu05:36
cdubyadelliott, so you're basically stuck at the point where it's not showing up as an alternative?05:36
delliottcdubya: Yes.05:36
_jason!info xfwm405:36
rebelliousfreedohow about hardware driver05:36
ubotuxfwm4: (window manager of the Xfce project), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.2-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 904 kB, Installed size: 4832 kB05:36
rebelliousfreedohow to install hardware on ubuntu05:37
rebelliousfreedois it the same like windowsxp05:37
rebelliousfreedo?05:37
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rebelliousfreedosorry about my english05:37
SGC|Homeorbin, thanks!05:37
cpl-tnt900Any one familliar of hacking guides ? from the simplest hack to the most comlicated one ?05:37
orbinrebelliousfreedo: no. depending on what h/ware, it's usually harder unfortunately.05:37
cdubyadelliott, and you added all the stuff in your .bashrc?05:38
erUSULrebelliousfreedo: shut down the computer, plug the hardware, turn up the computer with fingers crossed ;)05:38
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apricottnx05:38
redguycpl-tnt900: kernel hacking guides?05:38
jeff_hanncpl-tnt900:hacking as in what?05:38
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cpl-tnt900hacking in networks and kernel05:38
redguycpl-tnt900: or hacking as in cracking05:38
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delliottcdubya: No, that seemed like a step that came after... I'll give that a go.05:38
cpl-tnt900cpl-tnt900: or hacking as in cracking lol that too 10x for the reminder05:39
jeff_hannnetworks as in breaking into someone else's machine?05:39
redguycpl-tnt900: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/khg/HyperNews/get/khg.html05:39
cdubyadelliott, I'd try that first.05:39
redguycpl-tnt900: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html05:39
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cpl-tnt900i want 3 hacking subjects to learn : Hacking Networking , Hacking Into files  ( cracking )05:39
cdubyadelliott, you're following the docs here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPPC05:39
delliottcdubya: java -showversion returns 1.4.205:39
redguycpl-tnt900: join a hacking school05:39
delliottAnd there is not change to the update-alternatives.05:40
orbingee, someone's up to no good :-/05:40
delliottcdubya: Yes, that document.05:40
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delliottBut I didn't do fakeroot alien fakeroot alien05:40
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riddleboxhrmm wonder what he is going to try05:40
jeff_hanncpl-tnt900:l33t05:40
jeff_hann:)05:40
cpl-tnt900redguy : 10x alot man !05:40
delliottI just did fakeroot alien, it didn't like it when there were 2.05:40
cdubyadelliott, yeah, I saw that and thought it was a typo ;)05:40
redguycpl-tnt900: np05:41
zP-Osamacpl-tnt900: go buy hacking exposed 5th edition. i jsut picked that up myself05:41
cpl-tnt900redguy : anything else u would recommand to learn b4 starting to read this sites ?05:41
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delliottcdubya: Seems to be.05:41
roHOw does one quit X from within x given that f1-6 don't work?05:41
cdubyadelliott, I'll have to look at that machine and see if I installed it or not....I can get back to you on it if you want, or I can keep looking a bit05:41
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orbincan we please move the hacking chat to #ubuntu-offtopic?05:41
redguycpl-tnt900: start with this: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html#what_is05:41
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ompaulrebelliousfreedo, so what is your local language we may have a channel for it05:41
orbinro: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop05:41
cpl-tnt900zP-Osama : 10x but english is not myu primary language though it is my strong one...05:41
cdubyadelliott, thought I had, but maybe not....in fact, think I may have just used 1.4 as it works for what I need05:42
rebelliousfreedoompaul:nvm thanx05:42
zP-Osamacpl-tnt900: well hacking exposed 5th edition has alot of info in hacking in general so if ure interested i recommedn it05:42
delliottcdubya: Well, the article needs to be marked as 'flawed'05:42
BearKnuckleHi, I would like to install kubuntu via ftp, anyone knows a cd-image for a "net-start-installation" or a source for information?05:42
cdubyadelliott, are you programming so that you need something in 1.5, or can you live with 1.4?05:42
roorbin: Yeah, sorry, I allready tried that, bvlack screen of deeath :(05:42
cdubyadelliott, it needs to be checked for sure05:42
delliottcdubya: I'd like to run Azureus.05:42
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ompaulrebelliousfreedo, well if your not comfortable we may have something that is more useful to you, I am going to have the bot sent you some information that may be useful05:43
cdubyadelliott, and the reqs are 1.5?05:43
cpl-tnt900zP-Osama : 10x , is that edition sold on e-book ?05:43
delliottThe /usr/lib/j2re1.5-ibm/jre/bin/ directory does not even exist.05:43
ompaulrebelliousfreedo, what kind of video card have you got?05:43
delliottcdubya: It moans on OS X if it isn't 1.505:43
zP-Osamacpl-tnt900: should be i dunno. i picked it up from barnes and noble :P05:43
rebelliousfreedogeforce405:43
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yanchengis there any GUI able to compare the difference between directory just like Windows WinMerge. I just Linux tkdiff, but it just able to compare between files05:44
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gorskii do not get all the files listed when i search for files.05:44
rebelliousfreedoompaul:thanx:)05:44
cpl-tnt900:P coolz..05:44
orbinBearKnuckle:http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation maybe05:44
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ompaulrebelliousfreedo, enjoy, we have people who use almost every lanuage avaialable they can help you localise the machine so you can use the correct font sets for you05:45
cdubyadelliott, k......I'd try it on this box, but I've got 1.5 installed, so I couldn't be sure 1.4 would work anyways...05:45
cpl-tnt900zP-Osama : i found some Hacking Exposed - Network Security secrets & Solutions05:45
rebelliousfreedoompaul: my local language is bahasa melayu05:45
zP-Osamacpl-tnt900 thats a good one i havent gotten it yet05:45
rebelliousfreedoompaul: im malaysian05:46
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JDahlcpl-tnt900, IMO, it's easier to just club the sysadmin with a wooden stick and steal his root password05:46
ompaulrebelliousfreedo, okay no problem let me find something for you05:46
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orbinyancheng: dirdiff, xxdiff05:47
deefzihow can i see what NVDIST should i use?05:47
BearKnuckleorbin: I already checked this, but that's not what I expected. I would like to have a cd-image, burn it to a disc, boot the image, start the installation via passing a ftp-server to the installation-process, but in the wiki are weird ways to install via net...05:47
ompaulrebelliousfreedo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MalaysianTeam so its only one guy but he may be useful to you :-)05:47
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mohkohnHi I am using XFCE4 and my kicker at the bottom05:48
orbinBearKnuckle: yeah.  i don't know for sure but i think you can't actually do a "net-install".  the best way is to just grab the install cd.05:48
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delliottARGH, which java returns nothing now.05:49
BearKnuckleorbin: didn't think of that.. i have a small (getting bigger! :) ) hang-over, i try that, thanks.05:49
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_jasondelliott: what are you trying to do?05:49
rebelliousfreedoompaul: im running on livecd05:49
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juanmahola05:49
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rebelliousfreedoompaul: i plan to install ubuntu permanently05:49
delliott_jason: Install Java1.5 on PPC.05:50
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cdubyadelliott, maybe something here? it's referring to the older version of java, but may work. You might check it out.....http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66534&highlight=ppc+java05:50
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delliottIt's not going to work05:50
rebelliousfreedoompaul: currently im using windows xp05:50
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orbinBearKnuckle: i thought you were asking b/c you're low on bandwidth05:50
rebelliousfreedoompaul: im fedup with those virus and so on05:50
rebelliousfreedo:(05:50
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_jasondelliott: so I take it using java-package did not work?05:50
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ompaulrebelliousfreedo, well when microsoft won't fix the problem you can, use ubuntu :-)05:51
zP-Osamalol true05:51
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delliott_jason: Just trying to follow the wiki.05:51
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_jasondelliott: there are javadebs available if you would rather use them instead of creating your own05:51
riddleboxthe problem I have with wiki's is they usually have old info and things have changed05:51
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BearKnuckleorbin: If I would be low on bandwidth, there would be no difference for an image-download and a net-install, I think :-)05:52
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delliott_jason: The problem arises when I try sudo update-alternatives05:52
rebelliousfreedoompaul: is there any problem with files to read/write using ubuntu05:52
_jasondelliott: what happens when you do that?05:52
rebelliousfreedoompaul: i mean05:52
orbinBearKnuckle: yes, i re-read my post and had a what the hell am i talking about moment. :-/05:52
rebelliousfreedoompaul: u know all my friends here using microsoft05:53
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rebelliousfreedoompaul: dealing on assignments05:53
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orbinBearKnuckle: did you not know about the install cd?   why did you want an ftp install?05:53
rebelliousfreedoompaul: can i edit them let say word document05:53
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ompaulrebelliousfreedo, you can05:53
rebelliousfreedoompaul: videos,mp305:53
delliott_jason: http://rafb.net/paste/results/27JXL284.html05:53
ompaul!tell rebelliousfreedo about restricted05:53
ompaulrebelliousfreedo, lots of good stuff05:54
martinezholaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa05:54
ompaul!es05:54
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:54
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feistelhi05:54
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_jasondelliott: ugh does the wiki really suggest you alien an rpm?05:54
delliottYes.05:54
rebelliousfreedoompaul: what ubuntu software that same as adobe photoshop?05:55
rebelliousfreedoompaul: i mean graphic software05:55
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redguyrebelliousfreedo: gimp05:55
Frogzooreggaemanu: gimp - or PS under wine05:55
feistelI have 2 mouses, one is PS/2 and the other is USB, I need one mouse for a X and the other for another X. But now both mouse point to same X05:55
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feistelhow I can see what dev is for one and for another?05:56
ompaulrebelliousfreedo, we have seveal ways to do that gimp is similar but better05:56
_jasondelliott: ok, want to try to remove that and use this instead: http://www.giannaros.org/buntu/breezy/ppc/ ?05:56
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orbinfeistel: you want two mouse pointers? :-/05:56
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ompaulrebelliousfreedo, it is a very powerful tool and the "online help" is a book05:56
feistelorbin, yes, because I have two momnitor05:56
orbinoh05:56
feisteland two keybs05:56
BearKnuckleorbin: I prefer ftp, because I have up-to-date-packages in the installation and I download only, what I need. Only thing i am used to download at start ist a small boot-cd-image with a few mb and then start the installation. Thats what I usually do with all linux-installations and I don't want to change. ;)05:57
feistelI need know what /dev/ file is for one and for another05:57
feistelany suggest?05:57
rebelliousfreedoompaul: does virus on xp can affect ubuntu?05:57
ompaulrebelliousfreedo, no05:57
delliott_jason: Ok.05:57
rambo3xp is not writing to ext3 so no worry05:58
rebelliousfreedoompaul: hahaha one of why i switch to ubuntu05:58
delliottNow I need to figure out how to get which java to work again though :-/05:58
feistelrebelliousfreedo, yes, some Windows virus can affect Linux boxes05:58
redguyfeistel: which ones?05:58
ompaulrebelliousfreedo, have a look at this page: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/faq05:58
stinkytoedues the basic install cd have packages for ooffice? i'm going to do an install on a machine with no network connection. (forgive me i'm a gentoo guy)05:58
feistelredguy, Macros Virus for MS Office05:58
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Frogzoorebelliousfreedo: you can run your viruses under wine if you want05:58
orbinBearKnuckle: ah.  i don't have broadband. i've always done installs off cds.05:58
redguyfeistel: the /dev/ entries for mice should be /dev/input/mouse0 and mouse105:59
_jasondelliott: still not working after the new package?05:59
rebelliousfreedowhat is wine?05:59
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_jasonrebelliousfreedo: alcoholic beverage05:59
feistelredguy, I have 1 only entry, but have 2 mouses working now05:59
ompaulfeistel, ehh wrong it impacts MS Office05:59
everthello all05:59
evert hello , i need help pls ! I started my pc (with kubuntu 64) like always , but at once , my home map (evert) is emtpy except desktop :O who can help me pls ?05:59
delliott_jason: Just working on it.05:59
_jason!wine05:59
rebelliousfreedohmm05:59
BearKnuckleorbin: I am pretty annoyed by the fact there seems not to be a ftp-installation I am used to and every other distribution supports...05:59
ompaulfeistel, which funny enough is not what I have running here05:59
_jasonubotu: tell rebelliousfreedo about wine05:59
feistelroot@cahimira:/proc# ls /dev/input/06:00
feistelmice06:00
rambo3BearKnuckle, yes there is netinstall06:00
redguyfeistel: hmm06:00
Frogzoo!wine06:00
feistelredguy, but both work fine06:00
Frogzoo!tell rebelliousfreedo about wine06:00
_jasonrebelliousfreedo: there is a version in the repos too (but it's a little older)06:00
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feistelUSB device: Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0458:003a KYE Systems Corp. (Mouse Systems)06:00
orbinrambo3: url for instructions?06:01
BearKnucklerambo3 Do u have a source?06:01
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BearKnuckleAnd the link to the dvd-iso on the official pages is broken, not good start for ubuntu, if you ask me. :-)06:01
feistel /dev/usbdev4.2 ???06:01
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rambo3search ubuntu forums and wiki06:01
Frogzoofeistel: you can have dual mouse/kb setups - you'll need to tinker with xorg.conf - you'll find examples by googling06:01
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ompaulfeistel, anyone ever tell you not to run as root, its just not needed06:02
rambo3here is one on floppies http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75372&highlight=netinstall06:02
redguyfeistel: hmm, check your /etc/X11/xorg.con for input setup, you should have entries for both mice in there I suppose06:02
rambo3and iso http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso06:02
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feistelguys, I have two mouse configured in xorg.conf06:03
feistelbut in the actual layout I have only 1 mouse06:03
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rambo3why wuold you think that thats a problem06:03
BearKnucklerambo3: Great, that's what I was looking for. Next time I be in here, it will be with ubuntu. Thank you and good bye!06:03
feistelmmmm06:04
redguyfeistel: I suppose that /dev/input/mice gets events from both mice06:04
feistelredguy, yes06:04
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feistelI try with cat /dev/input/mice06:04
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orbinrambo3: sweet06:04
redguyfeistel: :-) just wanted to suggest you that06:04
feistelredguy, then how I can fix that?06:04
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rambo3fiestal just make a copy of xorg.conf before you do anything06:06
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redguyfeistel: well I have both mouse0 and mice in /dev/input, mouse0 is major 13, minor 32. I don't know exactly how to make these appear in your /dev/input, but I suppose that this requires some udev tweaking.06:06
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orbinubotu: netinstall is To install Ubuntu via the net, try here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75372 ... Breezy netboot CD image: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso06:07
feistelredguy, what types of mouse you have?06:07
ubotuorbin: okay06:07
orbinfeel free to change that guys06:07
redguyfeistel: a ps/2 mouse06:07
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brimsteranyone here sunning ubuntu on a latitude d610?06:09
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brimstersunning=running06:09
brimstercause my battery life sux running ubuntu06:09
orbinbrimster: try here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport or search the forum06:10
brimsterthanks06:10
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ACU07hey guys - how to burn a CD in Gnome - I have downloade an .iso file and do not know how to burn it06:12
brimsterrunning dapper06:12
brimsternot much in there about dapper06:12
eagle7using ndiswrapper i can see my access point using iwconfig wlan0, but dhcpcd wln0 fails06:13
ompaulACU07, right click on the iso in nautilus and choose the burner (if you have more than one) and emm burn it :-)06:13
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leagrishello06:14
leagrishow can I enable non UTF_8 locales in ubuntu ?06:14
orbinbrimster: have you used breezy or other earlier ubuntu versions?06:14
redguyACU07: try right clicking is, there should be an option to burn it06:14
linuxboyhi06:15
redguy!tell brimster about dapper06:15
leagrissudo dpkg-reconfigure locales regenerate existing UTF-8 locales without letting me choose any other06:15
linuxboywhy doesn't rythmbox not play mp3s in dapper?06:15
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crimsunlinuxboy: because you haven't installed gstreamer0.8-mad (if you're using breezy)06:15
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crimsunleagris: dapper?06:15
leagrisyes crimsun06:15
linuxboycrimsun: as I said, dapper06:16
redguyleagris: try dpkg-reconfigure -p medium locales06:16
erUSUL!tell linuxboy about mp306:16
redguyleagris: or even -pmedium, don't remember which one is it06:16
crimsunlinuxboy: then install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly06:16
leagrisredguy, same with any -pmedium critical low or whatever06:16
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crimsunlinuxboy: dapper questions belong in #ubuntu+106:16
crimsunleagris: #ubuntu+106:17
leagrisyes06:17
brimsteri was running breezy before06:17
tyconi'd like to use the binary kde 3.5.2 packages provided at download.kde.org. is there a way to install them via the synaptics package manager?06:17
redguyleagris: try -p medium06:17
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cycus_zwisustycon: of course06:17
tyconcycus_zwisus: how?06:18
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cycus_zwisusedit your sources.list06:18
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tyconok thanks06:18
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cycus_zwisusand add the line: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde352 breezy main06:19
cycus_zwisusafter that run sudo apt-get update06:20
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cycus_zwisusand sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:20
cycus_zwisusor sudo apt-get upgrade (if an older version of kde is already installed on your system)06:21
delliott_jason: That worked :D06:21
delliottwas it the fakeroot alien stuff that was the problem?06:21
_jasondelliott: yeah you should avoid alien as much as possible if you can06:21
delliottMaybe the wiki should be updated to reflect this.06:22
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_jasondelliott: go for it06:23
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delliott_jason: Should I link the .deb from your site?06:24
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_jasondelliott: that sounds fine, just make a note at the top that a deb is available which is better than alien'ing the rpm and link to it and provide the dpkg -i command06:25
delliottOk.06:25
delliottI'll provide it as a 'point of reference'.06:25
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delliottSince what is there didn't work for me, but that doesn't mean it wont work for others.06:25
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MagnusGoldsteindang! I was going to report compiling success... then I found a repository at the last moment... no need for all the bother :(06:26
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cycus_zwisusmc06:27
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cycus_zwisushow many of you guys are adult?06:28
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void^body or mind?06:29
=== riddlebox maybe
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martin_^^06:29
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martin_How do you upgrade FireFox from 1.5.0.1 to 1.5.0.2?06:30
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MagnusGoldsteinupdate you sources first?06:30
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martin_I have all the Dapper repos enabled06:31
cycus_zwisusmartin_, my firefox self-updates :P06:31
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_jasonwhen I set a shortcut in gnome's keyboard shortcuts using my multimedia keys on my keyboard, one key display as '0x8b' while another displays as 'XF86AudioStop', where do these things come from?06:31
_jasonmartin_: #ubuntu+1 for dapper06:31
martin_?06:32
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_jasonmartin_: dapper questions should be discussed in #ubuntu+1, just do: /join #ubutnu+106:32
martin_Eh, ok06:32
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cycus_zwisus_jason: what about hoary questions?06:33
gwarkok i am a bit confused how to mount my fat32 partition so i can read + write ... could someone point me in the right direction please ?06:33
_jasoncycus_zwisus: here :)06:33
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cycus_zwisusfine06:33
_jasonubotu: tell gwark about vfat06:33
gwarksudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/partitionname -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000   ..............    isnt working ......    lol im new06:33
cycus_zwisusmartin_: help > check for updates (or sth like this)06:34
_jasongwark: what do you mean by ``not working''? does it mount?06:34
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gwark_jason : thanks thats heaps easier that what i was trting to do06:34
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gwarki think i may have told terminal the wrong partition .... *shrug*06:34
cycus_zwisusoh, martin_ has gone :/06:35
ompaulgwark, click on system administration disks its rather easy there06:35
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ompaulcycus_zwisus, he has joined +106:35
MachineScrewis there a gui for wpa06:35
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threeseashello06:35
panzerpan06:35
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threeseasquestion06:36
threeseasubuntu 5.1 live... can this write to a mounted ntfs file system?06:36
_jasonthreeseas: no06:36
WarpedShadowI'm having problem with a new install of ubuntu with my graphics. intel 950 on bd. can't change teh screen resolution06:36
threeseasthanks _jason06:37
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_jasonubotu: tell WarpedShadow about fixres06:37
gwarkompaul   ahhh thanks .... it worked after i added it under /media06:37
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gwarkompaul   was trying the desktop before06:37
gwarkcheers06:37
MagnusGoldsteinwell... nite-e-nite congadoodies... I'm off to bed06:37
gwarkompaul _jason    thnx06:37
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threeseasbyre06:37
MagnusGoldsteinis monday a public holiday BTW?06:37
tigerspiritI have HP ethernet printer that is connected to my switch and ping with it works fine, but whenever I want to print print job manager says that printer is busy. Do you know what may be issue?06:38
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MachineScrewis there a gui for wpa06:38
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ompaulgwark, enjoy06:38
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vbgunzwhat is Dasher and why does it ship with Dapper?06:40
_jasonompaul: do you know what the default permissions are for disks mounted with the gui?  I tend not to recommend it because I though it would mount root owned and with 700 permissions06:40
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_jason!info dasher dapper06:40
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ubotudasher: (A graphical predictive text input system), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.0.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 285 kB, Installed size: 788 kB06:41
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AfiefIs there a way to make Ubuntu connect to my network automaticly when i connect the lan cable? as it is now i have to deactivate and reactivate the network interface06:41
_jasonvbgunz: might have better luck in #ubuntu+1 with dapper questions06:41
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vbgunz_jason: ahh yeah, sorry :)06:42
daxxar=)06:42
tyconhrm, what do i need to add to my sources.list file in order to access ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/pub/unix/X11/gui/kde/stable/3.5.2 via synaptics?06:42
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linomanhello06:44
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rambo3deb that-longadress and kubuntu/breezy ?06:44
annarapsi installed linuxdcpp and can't uninstall it now , it tries to uninstall everything , what do i do ?06:44
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tyconrambo3: ?06:45
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thingfishtycon: that doesn't look to be an apt repository, at least from the address.06:46
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linomandoes anyone here know the e-mail for the admins at Carnical?06:46
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tyconthingfish: so i'll have to download each package by hand?06:47
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linomancause I have a review that I would like to e-mail to the admins06:47
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roryylinoman: http://www.canonical.com/contact06:47
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linomanthanks roryy06:47
roryylinoman: i see reviews often posted to the ubuntu-sounder list06:47
WarpedShadow_jason: ta06:47
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thingfishtycon: I wouldn't.  I'd wait for ubuntu to package it.06:48
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Emesshi, im trying to isntall onto an old box, but its trying to boot into a previous isntallation of mandrake with grub, is there a command to make grub boot from the cd?06:48
linomanwell roryy would you take a look at http://www.x64bit.net/site/board/index.php?act=ST&f=73&t=2386 and tell me what ya think?06:48
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OnkelJonasemess... can't you just use the bios to force a CD boot?06:49
EmessOnkelJonas: no, its an old IMB box, doesnt have boot settings in the bios at all06:49
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OnkelJonasthat complicates matters :P06:49
roryylinoman: sure, give me a few minutes06:49
OnkelJonassorry... I don't know grub very well06:50
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Avenhey06:50
linomanthanks roryy06:50
Avenanyone know a similar client like centericq?06:50
AvenAIM/MSN/etc. all in one06:50
Avencommand-line06:50
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OverandAven: consider Bitlbee06:51
Emessyeah, i tried plugging the hdd in after the cd had booted, but when it tried to isntall it jsut kept repeating 'killed'06:51
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Overandbitlbee is an aim/msn/yahoo/etc --> IRC gateway06:51
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AvenOverand: alright thanks06:51
ompaul_jason, no idea, I would imagine you got to change the directory where it is mountednot the fstab entry06:51
escobar5hello, can anyone help me, i can't get my floppy mounted06:51
OnkelJonasyou could format the drive in another machine06:51
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simplydazedescobar5: whats the error you are getting?06:51
rambo3floppies are vfat06:51
m0nk_hey everyone06:52
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annarapsanyone: package i want to uninstall tries to uninstall every other package , help please ?06:52
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aileanhey guys, when i'm playing back videos, I see a diagonal line from the top left to the bottom right - especially when there is a lot of movement in a scene. Does anyone know what this is, and how to correct it? Videos play back well on the windows side.06:52
escobar5simplydazed, first of all, shouldn't the floppey be automounted?06:52
m0nk_i am going to build a computer soon, in about a month06:53
simplydazedescobar5: i'm not sure how you are tryn to do it, console or Gnome ?06:53
annarapsm0nk_:all the best06:53
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johnny3dhow do I stop arts?06:53
m0nk_i am wanting to run ubuntu as well as windows for gaming, but i will be putting in some hardcore shit for my gaming06:53
AvenOverand: :localhost. NOTICE AUTH :BitlBee-IRCd initialized, please go on06:53
AvenI get that error06:53
Avenand it doesn't do anything :P06:53
m0nk_my concern is i wanna know if ubuntu will be able to support all my hardware06:53
escobar5simplydazed: i'm in gnome and it doesn't get automounted, then i try mounting it in console and i get this error: mount: I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified06:54
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m0nk_im going to put a nividia in it, im already running an older nividia on my other computer which ubuntu can use06:55
m0nk_but idk if it will be able to handle an SLi06:55
OverandAven: it's an IRC/etc gateway06:55
OverandAven: you connect to 'localhost' with your irc client06:55
Overand(which, if you're console, would be irssi, bitchx, etc)06:55
Avenahh06:55
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Avenyeah I use irssi06:55
annarapsHELP  I WANT TO UNINSTALL A PACKAGE BUT IT WONT06:55
ompaul!shout06:55
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ubotu[shout]  WE CAN READ LOWER CASE!06:55
simplydazedescobar5: mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy06:55
annarapsIT WANTS TO UNINSTALL EVERYTHING ELSE06:55
simplydazedescobar5: ?06:56
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annarapsI DONT THINK ANYONE IS LISTENING06:56
tritiumannaraps: please lower your case06:56
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Emessscore ubotu being in au...06:56
annarapsOkay okay06:56
annaraps@#!$#%06:56
escobar5simplydazed: yes, that line is in my fstab, so i use mount /dev/fd006:56
ompaulannaraps, if it is saying *ubuntu-desktop its okay06:56
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ompaulannaraps, okay we dont do bad lanugage in this channe;06:56
annarapsompaul: i am not doing any bad language06:57
harry666how can i move all data from one harddisk to another so that i'm able to boot from it ?06:57
simplydazedescobar5: did you try and specify the fs type as vfat ?06:57
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annarapsompaul: could someone please help me out06:57
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tritiumannaraps: which packages are going to be removed?06:57
hugifrbtest irc06:57
annarapsompaul: everrthing06:57
ompaulannaraps, I already answered your question06:57
mohkohnHello06:57
annarapsompaul:1400 in all06:57
tritiumannaraps: what makes you say everything?  Please be exact.06:57
hugifrbuse everone heer larsWM?06:57
ompaulannaraps, if it is saying *ubuntu-desktop its okay - what exactly are trying to remove06:57
escobar5simplydazed: going to try06:58
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chichehello guys, I am back06:58
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chichewhat's going on here?06:58
ompaulannaraps, more to the point why do you want to remove it06:58
annarapstritium: sudo apt-get remove linuxdcpp asks to try sudo apt-get install -f06:58
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annarapsbecause it slows down the computer06:58
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annarapssometimes gnome crashes06:58
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m0nk_annarap how fast is your computer?06:59
escobar5simplydazed: it was in auto, i changed to vfat and it works, thanks06:59
hugifrbuse no one larsWM?06:59
tritiumannaraps: linuxdcpp?  Which reposotory did you grab that from?06:59
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simplydazedescobar5: cool06:59
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ompaulannaraps, linuxdcpp that is not a native ubuntu application, how did you install it?06:59
annarapsompaul : when i do sudo apt-get install -f , it asks for uninstalling other packages too06:59
roryylinoman: can i /query you ?06:59
annarapsomapul: through a debian package06:59
linomanSure you can roryy06:59
oshupaanybody here?07:00
Pitersburgsanyone knows descent repository with xen-enabled kernel packages for Debian/Ubuntu?07:00
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annarapsompaul : i know its a mistake to do so , but i really liked the interface and now it won't get uninstalled07:00
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ompaulannaraps, lesson one ubuntu is not debian and mixing packages can be bad for you07:00
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annarapsompaul:is there a way out ?07:00
ompaulannaraps, how did you install it?07:00
annarapsompaul: dpkg -i package name07:01
mohkohnMy battery light thingy in gnome is not doing anything. But the power is apparently charging my battery.07:01
ompaulannaraps, first off it is running?07:01
annarapsompaul: yes very well , except for the hogging memory part07:01
mohkohnI mean the picture of the battery. Which when you plug it in turns into an electric plug and says charging.07:01
ompaulannaraps, killall  linuxdcpp07:02
m0nk_lol mohkohn i accidently got rid of that on my laptop:|07:02
mohkohnDoes anybody know how to get it working again?07:02
annarapsompaul: no it isn't running right now , but when it does synaptic pops up a message saying the package is broken and to fix the broken package which is linuxdcpp07:02
mohkohnDid you get it back m0nk_07:02
m0nk_but i havent tried to get it back because i already know when my batteries will die, i time it07:02
GarethMBarrh ive been working since 8.30 am07:03
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mohkohnMine seems stuck on 97%07:03
GarethMBand still got loads t do07:03
AvenOverand: when I type /quote help, it doesn't respond :\07:03
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TeddCan anyone help me install Photoshop on WINE?07:03
m0nk_hmm. i never really trust any of those07:03
TeddIt installs fine07:03
Teddbut it installs in a script font07:03
OverandAven: odd07:03
Teddthat I can't read for shit07:03
ompaulannaraps, dpkg -rP linuxdcpp << may help07:04
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r0bbyAven :P07:04
Avenhey r0bby07:04
Avenyou're everywhere :P07:04
r0bbyno shit07:04
annarapsompaul:are you there ?07:04
r0bbyer language i apologize07:04
mohkohnWhat is the device called? the wee battery thing?07:04
ompaulTedd, easy on the language r0bby also07:04
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tritiumr0bby: watch your language!07:04
Avenlol07:04
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ompaulannaraps, I answerered you already07:04
AvenI'll try BitchX07:05
Teddompaul, sorry07:05
r0bbyI apologized before hand!07:05
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r0bbyexcuse me07:05
m0nk_oh crap, im sorry for the language i used earlier in the room, i didnt know you guys didnt like the language07:05
r0bbyI must go07:05
annarapsompaul: i don't get you , please be very explicit , i am a newbie07:05
naliothwe welcome you all to leave the barnyard language in the barnyard07:05
TeddBut this is a very odd error. I haven't gotten this before.07:05
nalioth!ircrules07:05
ubotuyou are invited to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcRules07:05
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annarapsompaul: i removed the package just now using dpkg -r07:06
Avenwhat are other AIM/MSN/etc. clients command-line?07:06
Avenother than centericq and bitlbee07:06
roryynalioth: i think that should possibly be IrcGuidelines07:06
ompaulannaraps, first step remove the program >>dpkg -rP linuxdcpp<<07:06
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OnkelJonasthat irc rules page is empty07:06
annarapsompaul: done , i think it works07:06
tritiumroryy: they're stronger than simply guidelines07:06
annarapsompaul : thanks for the help07:06
naliothroryy: i didnt make em, i just link to em07:06
ompaulannaraps, second step change the file /etc/apt/sources.list so that no outside repo is pointed at07:06
roryytritium: there's no IrcRules page ;)07:06
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OnkelJonasw000t... no rules!07:07
OnkelJonas:D07:07
annarapsompaul: oh the repo thing , where can i get a proper config07:07
m0nk_hmmm yeah OnkelJonas thats what i was thinking lol07:07
ompaul!tell annaraps about easysource07:07
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ompaulannaraps, please check the link from ubotu in a PM07:07
NickGarveyhow do I unzip tgz files?07:08
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_jason!guidelines is <reply>you are invited to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines07:08
ubotu_jason: okay07:08
annarapsompaul: done , thanks a lot ompaul07:08
ompaulOnkelJonas, the bot is fixed07:08
simplydazedNinjaDuck: tar xvf file.tgz07:08
NickGarveysimplydazed: thank you07:08
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NinjaDuck?07:08
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ompaulannaraps, enjoy07:08
_jasonrules were decided to become guidelines in last CC07:09
nalioth!ircrules07:09
ubotuYou are invited to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines07:09
naliothenjoy07:09
mohkohnIs this battery thing linked to the apmd?07:09
annarapsthree cheers for ubuntu07:09
TeddHas anyone ever heard of this error? I'm installing Photoshop and it installs in a script font.07:09
OnkelJonasthanks ompaul :)07:09
TeddCan anyone help me fix this?07:09
mohkohnWhich I discover is called Battery Charge Monitor 2.12.107:10
naliothTedd: photoshop on linux?07:10
ompaulTedd, that would be a windows issue?07:10
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Teddnalioth, yes. I'm installing with WINE and I reeeaaaally don't want to have to go hunting for Crossover Office07:10
m0nk_im just wondering guys, how many trolls do you guys get in here?07:10
MenZaDoes anyone know of any good XHTML/CSS editors that support automatic indentation and syntax highlighting?07:10
naliothTedd: you might get better luck in #winehq07:10
simplydazedMenZa: bluefish ?07:10
ompaulTedd, then #winehq is the place for you07:10
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TeddMenZa, I use KDevelop07:10
m0nk_i reg in some yahoo chat rooms and I used to always end up having to boot some trolls07:10
MenZasimplydazed: Bluefish has auto-indentation?07:11
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MenZaTedd: I like to stay away from KDE apps if possible :)07:11
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TeddMenZa, not a good policy :P07:11
simplydazedMenZa: no idea, i used it once, never used it again07:11
TeddErrrr07:11
MenZa(Why? Because I'm a perfectionist. I don't mind KDE -- or its looks -- but KDE+GTK = lose :\)07:11
MenZaI'll try it, simplydazed.07:11
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MenZa(I've tried gedit, kate, quanta, nvu...)07:12
simplydazedMenZa: nvu aswell07:12
simplydazedoh ok07:12
MenZaNVU doesn't have auto-indentation07:12
MenZa:)07:12
simplydazedthen forgot nvu07:12
MenZahehj07:12
MenZaheh*07:12
simplydazed*forget07:12
ompaul!enter07:12
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.07:12
cA1mAnhello, how do I make a tar archive for ONLY (and in one step in command line) /home & /etc (anything more needed for BACKUP???)?07:12
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MenZaArgh, I'm running a dist-upgrade. APT is out-of-bounds :\07:13
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MenZaIs Bluefish in the repositories, simplydazed?07:13
simplydazedcA1mAn: tar cvf backup.tat /home /etc07:13
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cA1mAnwhat's .tat?07:13
simplydazedMenZa: Filename: pool/universe/b/bluefish/bluefish_1.0.1-0ubuntu3_i386.deb07:13
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simplydazedcA1mAn: typo sorry .tar07:14
cA1mAnah ok07:14
MenZasimplydazed: sweet, thanks (I'm on Dapper -- let's hope it's there anyway ;))07:14
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MenZaIt is.07:14
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simplydazed:)07:14
MenZaThanks -- I hope it's right for me.07:14
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OnkelJonasIs Espresso mature/stable enough to be used without handtuning/tweaking stuff?07:14
MenZaYay! GTK!07:14
cA1mAnso for a complete backup of the configurations (themes, passwords, setting for apps) jsut the home and etc dirs are needed, right?07:14
tritiumMenZa: apt-cache search <search-term> will come in handy for you07:14
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deefziwhen i installed the new nvidia gfx-drivers, it says "Skipping /usr/X11/R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o": No symbols found" when i try to start gdm07:15
deefziwhat am i lacking?07:15
theplatypuserror when trying to copy files to external hd."Error while copying to "/media/backup" " any ideas07:15
MenZaOh, hell no -- auto-completion of tags. No thanks.07:15
cA1mAnso for a complete backup of the configurations (themes, passwords, setting for apps) just the /home and etc dirs are needed, right?07:15
cA1mAnoops sorry spamming07:15
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tritiumMenZa: watch your language07:16
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cA1mAnis it enough to backup ONLY etc and home ?07:17
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Apostle^cA1mAn: depends07:18
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iy7fdihow can i update my computer from the terminal07:18
simplydazedcA1mAn: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3508707:18
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NickGarveyiy7fdi: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade07:19
iy7fdithanks07:19
cA1mAnalready read that, but he's backing up everything exluding some07:19
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cA1mAni want jsut the settings/passwords/themes/... of gnome & other apps07:19
mohkohncat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state07:20
_jasoncA1mAn: all of your personal settings should be in $HOME07:20
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mohkohncat: /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state: No such file or directory07:20
cA1mAnand for firefox?07:20
_jasoncA1mAn: still $HOME07:20
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cannibal27msg ubotu register07:20
mohkohnThis battery thing used to work before. How do I get it working again?07:20
NickGarveyhey that is pretty cool mohkohn07:20
NickGarveycharging state:          discharging07:21
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mohkohnWhat is cool?07:21
simplydazedcA1mAn:  ~/.mozilla07:21
_jason!dict cool07:21
cA1mAnthat's home, ok then07:21
cannibal27duh, anyone prepared to help me install realplayer plz?07:22
cannibal27i just discovered linux!07:22
Jowi!realplayer07:22
ubotu[realplayer]  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:22
Morrowynhow do i reinstall the grub onto my hdd, i had to reinstall windows, and windows was so nice to rewrite the bootsector for me and had a nice feature to remove grub for me07:23
Morrowynany ideas?07:23
_jason!grub07:23
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting07:23
cannibal27done it, downloaded a rp .bin file, cant open it07:23
Morrowynthanks :)07:23
_jasoncA1mAn: wiki gives you a deb07:23
cA1mAn_jason: a deb of what?07:23
cannibal27ah so, muchas gracias senor07:24
_jasoncA1mAn: hmm confused you with cannibal27 , sorry07:24
cannibal27i need to find a terminal....07:24
cA1mAnah ok07:24
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_jasoncA1mAn: what bin are you referring to?07:24
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cannibal27its realplayer10gold.bin07:25
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cA1mAn_jason: it's cannibal2707:25
cA1mAn;-)07:25
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_jasoncA1mAn: use the deb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-848295cba1b3591a4b4a0dbea5844fd5d2894b6b07:25
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_jasonand stop confusing me! :P07:25
cannibal27thanks cAlmAn07:25
cA1mAnleave me alone :-)07:26
Chris_Tuckerwhere is an individual user's crontab file located?07:26
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_jasoncA1mAn: wait, when you said it's cannibal27, did you mean you are cannibal27? because that's how I understood it...07:26
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cannibal27look, this is the real cannibal2707:27
cannibal27beware of imitations07:27
cannibal27i just want to see if rp works on linux!07:27
_jasoncannibal27: ok, well use the deb on the wiki for realplayer07:27
mohkohnI seem to be finding lots of references to the error but no solution07:27
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cannibal27it says to use the terminal to turn the .bin file to an executable07:28
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bifodusdoes anyone know why using ssh in commandline would work but i can't mount an ssh drive using nautilus?07:28
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annarapsexit07:29
Chris_Tuckerwhere is an individual user's crontab file located?07:29
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_jasonChris_Tucker: man crontab, should tell you07:29
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cannibal27jesus no wonder ppl go back to windoze07:29
ompaulcannibal27, all the info you want is here http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:29
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ompaulcannibal27, do not curse or annoy other people thanks :)07:29
cannibal27tnx ompaul07:29
_jasoncannibal27: in the new version of ubuntu coming out in june, you can just double click on .deb's, makes it similar to .exe's to be honest07:29
cannibal27sorry07:29
olivierhi, I follow a tutorial for installing my wireless card BCM4306, it says I have to install bcm43xx-fwcutter but it doesn't seam to be on the repertory07:30
NickGarveyolivier: I don't think its that hard...07:30
Chris_Tucker_jason, well it doesnt.07:30
cannibal27i'm gonna stick with ubuntu07:30
_jasonChris_Tucker: yes, it does... I just read it07:30
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Chris_Tuckerwhere is it in the manpage then?07:30
cannibal27i just need to learn how to use it i guess07:30
_jasonChris_Tucker: 'man crontab'07:30
NickGarveyolivier: I mean mine is BCM4318 and all I needed was ndiswrapper07:30
bifodushave you checked the utilities universe repository olivier?07:30
MachineScrewthere needs to be somthing a tad easyer for WPA configuration07:31
Chris_Tucker_jason, your not even reading what im typing07:31
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dos000howdy07:31
_jasonChris_Tucker: hmm? Didn't you ask for the location of individual user's crontab files?07:31
dos000anyone tell me how i can get nautilus to display the address bar ala windows explorer ? i remember the gnome in hoary had the address bar07:32
olivierbifodus, yes and the tutorial is an ubuntu one, from ubuntu-fr07:32
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Chris_Tucker_jason, yes, but my second question was where in the manpage you saw the file location07:32
olivierNickGarvey, the card dosen't work with ndiswarpper07:32
olivier:/07:32
_jasonChris_Tucker: it's in the first paragraph, last sentence07:32
bifodusi think you may have to make it from source olivier07:33
Rddewhats the best tool for remote connecting to ubuntu from a xp comp?07:33
bifodushehe, i went through all this about 45 minutes ago07:33
Chris_Tuckerbut _jason, no point now, ive got the file.07:33
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bifodusbeen trying to get my BCM4406 card to work for a couple days now07:33
bifodusbut fwcutter works07:33
bigfoot1does anybody have an on-screen keyboard working?07:33
olivierbifodus, you got a url about it ? (even if it's in english)07:33
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kbrooksquestion for everyone07:34
AMDXPRdde: have you tried enabling the remote desktop on ubuntu and then using like vnc07:34
AAARdde  vnc or putty07:34
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AMDXPthey have another program but i never could get it to work07:34
RddeAMDXP, no but thats sounds simple? and i like simple =) what do i do?07:34
AMDXPits supposed to be really fast07:34
bifodushttp://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/mirrors/debian/pool/contrib/b/bcm43xx-fwcutter/07:34
bifodusit looks like they have it in there07:34
AAArdesktop is a GREAT tool on the linux side for rdp07:35
sunrexHow do i get wine to work on a 64bit system?07:35
RddeAMDXP, im using gb network so speed is no problem07:35
olivierbifodus, thanks07:35
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RddeAMDXP, how do i enable the remote desktop?07:35
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AAARdde  just rdesktop <remote host>07:35
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RddeAAA, ? =)07:36
AMDXPRdde: are you using gnome07:36
RddeAMDXP,  yep07:36
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AAARdde  just put that on the cmd-line07:36
sunrex3ddeskd: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.. can anyone help07:36
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AMDXPhe can also go System>>Preferences>>Remote Desktop07:37
RddeAAA, am i supose to put the connecting host ip in <remote host>07:37
iy7fdidoes anyone know what this means god@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:37
iy7fdiE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)07:37
iy7fdiE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?07:37
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skipper_hi07:37
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skipper_can somebody help me out here07:37
RddeAMDXP, nice, how do i connect to it from xp?07:37
_jasoniy7fdi: do you have synaptic or update-manager open?07:38
iy7fdino07:38
AAARdde  on the winders box enable remote desktop sharing, on the linux box type> rdesktop <the ip/name of the winders box>07:38
_jasoniy7fdi: how about some other apt process?07:38
iy7fdino07:38
sunrexIs there a command to reinstall the main files on ubuntu?07:38
luisitohello. I have installed a new DVD burner but when I insert a disc it doesn't mount it. What should I do?07:38
_jasoniy7fdi: did you kill an apt or dpkg process before it finished?07:38
AAAluisito  that is because it is not formatted probably. use something linke k3b to format it to your needs07:39
iy7fdiyep07:39
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_jasoniy7fdi: that's bad07:39
patrick_kinghi all07:39
_jasoniy7fdi: but should be safe to just delete the lock file I believe07:39
patrick_kinghoe do i register my name07:39
iy7fdi_jason my computer froze nothing io could do07:39
skipper_how do you change "-shared" ldflag to "-dynamiclib" in your makefile?07:39
AAApatrick_king  /m nickserv help07:39
luisitoAAA, no, it is a data cd, with data inside.07:39
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patrick_kingit doesnt do any thing07:40
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AAAluisito  check first. type> mount then look to see if it is mounted. if not try> mount /media/cdrom1 or maybe /media/cdrom007:40
patrick_kingit just goes  >nickserv< help07:40
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AAApatrick_king  look in your 'status' window. your /query nickserv help07:41
AAAs/your/or07:41
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RddeAAA, i have activated remote desktop whit password in syste > pref > remot  how do i connect to it from windows?07:43
AAApatrick_king  /m nickserv register <password>07:43
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patrick_kingdone it now thanks07:43
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AAARdde  you use rdesktop from linux to xp, it doesn't work the other way, use vnc from xp to linux07:44
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iy7fdi_jason now i dont get that ":could not open lock file eror. but it still wont upgrade gnopernicus07:44
Rddevnc is a program?07:44
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Tommckhello all... I have been google searching for a while on this and can't find a resolution:  I have burned about 6 copies of the Ubuntu 5.10 Live CD on 2 different machine, 2 different OS's and tried to read them from two different CD drives and I always get an error reading casper-udeb during bootup and the CD always fails integrity checks, even though the ISO has the proper MD5SUM.  Can anyone tell me why?07:44
_jason!info gnopernicus07:44
ubotugnopernicus: (Screen reader for GNOME 2), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.11.7-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 524 kB, Installed size: 7368 kB07:44
bifodusdoes anyone know why using ssh in commandline would work but i can't mount an ssh drive using nautilus?07:44
_jasoniy7fdi: what version do you have now?07:45
AAARdde  yes, you run the Xvncserver on linux and then you can use the vnc from att to connect from xp, just search google for vnc07:45
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iy7fdidapper07:45
_jasoniy7fdi: #ubuntu+1 for dapper please07:45
NickGarveyTommck: using a different iso?07:45
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TommckNick - no... same ISO07:45
dantheman25anyone know if they are planning in putting XGL in dapper? or will it wait till edgy?07:45
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AAAbifodus  sounds like you are missing a module or plugin for nautilus, not sure thought07:45
NickGarveyTommck: mm but the sum checks...07:45
rusakk0hi there.. anyone wanna help with gimp.. how do I delete bg color in a gif image so that it is "see through"07:46
TommckNick - you think, even with it passing MD5SUM, that it's bad?07:46
Tommckyeah07:46
NickGarveyTommck: yeah.. I'm not sure..07:46
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bifodusok, i'll look into that07:46
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NickGarveyTommck: are you trying to boot from more than one computer?07:46
TommckNickGarvey - the worst thing is that this'll be my first Ubuntu install :)07:46
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TommckNickGarvey - did that once, havent tried it lately07:47
AAAis there an ubuntu net-installer?07:47
TommckNickGarvey - same machine, 2 different CD drives07:47
TommckNickGarvey - currently running memtest on it now :)07:47
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patrick_king!apache07:48
ubotufrom memory, apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP07:48
sunrexhow would i go about reinstalling dapper without deleting my files on the os?07:48
AMDXPRdde: check the forums for remote desktop and it will show you how to set it up with resumable sessions07:48
NickGarveyTommck: you did try another computer at some point?07:48
TommckNickGarvey - once, but I should try it again... I will try my wife's now07:49
sunrexanyone?07:49
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NickGarveysunrex: back them up?07:49
sunrexmeh...07:49
AAA!netinst07:50
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, AAA07:50
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sunrex!dapper07:50
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)07:50
_jasonubotu: tell sunrex about upgrade07:50
dantheman25!xgl07:50
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/07:50
NickGarveyxgl is pretty...07:50
Tommckoh crap... we're having another version soon?07:50
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NickGarveyTommck: in june07:50
Tommckthat's pretty soon.07:50
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AAAfound it http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso  :: you can try that if you are having trouble with the other cd07:52
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TommckAAA - to whom are you speaking?07:52
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grigstie cineva romaneste?07:52
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AAAsomeon was having problems with the full install.  hrm. is that a netinstall cd or just a netboot from a local network? oh well07:53
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grigromaneste?07:54
NickGarveyAAA: I don't think there is a net install...07:54
NickGarveywas warty or hoary before breezy?07:54
TommckAAA - I am having issues with Live CD07:54
_jasonNickGarvey: warty, hoary, breezy07:54
NickGarveythank you07:54
mphillI'm having huge problems playing two sounds at the same time, I have tried two different sound cards, and Audigy and one with the ICE chipset.  Can someone point me in the right direction?  I have tried to configure my applications to use ALSA, but the issue persists.07:54
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AAATommck  nevermind.  that cd would not help you then.  if the md5's match then you must have some driver issue when it stops loading maybe07:55
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escobar5hello, anybody can help me, i can't get my ipod mounted07:56
NickGarveyTommck: did you try the other computer?07:56
NickGarvey!ipod07:56
ubotuinfo for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto07:56
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escobar5ubotu: i have already read that, the problem is that i can't get it mounted07:56
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, escobar507:56
arrinmurrmphill: have you tried to use esd?07:56
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NickGarveyescobar5: ubotu is a bot ;)07:57
TommckNickGarvey working on that now07:57
escobar5oh, lol07:57
NickGarveyescobar5: http://pag.csail.mit.edu/~adonovan/hacks/ipod.html07:57
ACU07grig: stie - depinde ce intrebi07:58
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TommckNickGarvey - looks like it's lovvked up trying to mount the SATA drive on that machine07:58
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TommckNickGarvey - my other machine had an old PATA drive07:58
escobar5thanks NickGarvey i will read that and come back if i still can't get it mounted07:58
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NickGarveyTommck: try some boot options then, mix and match ;)07:58
Tommckyeah07:58
grigstie cineva romaneste?07:59
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Rddeis there any good torrent clients for ubuntu gnome? i cant get bittorrent to work..07:59
ACU07grig ---- DA domnule07:59
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NickGarveyRdde: utorrent?08:00
TommckNickGarvey - I just got a memory test failure on the other machine... wow... I've never had a memory test failure :)08:00
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NickGarveyRdde: not sure though I have never used it08:00
NickGarveyTommck: that's not good..08:00
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TommckNickGarvey - it's ooooooolllldd  memory08:00
TommckNickGarvey - probably 10 years08:01
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palomerhello08:01
palomerif I'm inactive for a while my screen turns black08:01
palomeris this because of xscreensaver?08:01
apokryphosmost probably -- yes.08:01
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palomerbut sdl claims to turn xscreensaver off08:01
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palomerfurthermore, it happens in console too08:01
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davidhousehey guys, where can i get mousewheel support for emacs? (i.e. which package)08:02
apokryphospalomer: it's possibly a feature of your monitor then08:02
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palomerit isn't08:03
Apostle^palomer: in xorg.conf do you have DPMS ?08:03
apokryphosdoes ubuntu use gnomescreensaver or xscreensaver?08:03
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palomerApostle^: how do I check?08:03
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Apostle^palomer: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for Option "DPMS" if you find it delete the line and save the file08:04
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Apostle^palomer: then ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X and make the changes final08:04
Ummmmmi did a silly08:04
palomeroh yes, it's on08:04
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NickGarveyUmmmmm: what kind of silly..08:05
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Ummmmmi tried to mount my second hard drive at /dev/media ... which is just not right08:05
NickGarveynope08:05
bob_bonjour08:05
Ummmmmwhich config file holds that info08:05
Ummmmm?08:05
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NickGarveyUmmmmm: what do you mean? what info?08:05
UmmmmmI need to change the mount point08:05
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ACU07apostle^: do you know if I can install Debian Sarge with X-org from the begining (avoiding Xfree86?)08:05
NickGarveyUmmmmm: umount /dev/media08:05
mphillarrinmurr, how do i switch the sound system over to esd?08:05
Ummmmmit's trying to mount on /dev/media and failing08:05
ompaulUmmmmm, menu, system - administration - disks08:05
ZarephathUnder places I select network servers then Windows Network then Workgroup and it says it can't open it? I am connecting from ubuntu to a windows share using WinXP...I have the computer in my hosts file and hosts.allow08:06
Ummmmmit's not mounted08:06
Apostle^ACU07: this is the ubuntu channel, i know nothing aboutDebian08:06
eugmanHey is there a terminal based client in the repos for playing muds? Or is there only telnet.08:06
roryyeugman: there's tt++08:06
NickGarveyZarephath: samba?08:06
eugmanthanks08:06
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Zarephatheugman: Did you apt-search mud   ??08:06
roryyeugman: i tried papaya (gtk based, afaict), quite nice.08:06
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ZarephathNick: Yes...08:06
Zarephathsmb.conf is setup to use "WORKGROUP"08:07
florin-can anyone help me with a asus prob? with any kernell superior of 2.6.12 y cant poweroff my pc anymore, my hd are off but my alimentation and monitor are still on with a poweroff mesage, i'vd searchd with google but cant find anithing , just somme people that have the same prob, i'vd alredy tried with apm=force-off acpi=on but nothing, can anyone help me?08:07
eugmanZarephath , of course not. I'd have to have some idea what I was doing. Heh.08:07
Zarephatheugman: Either that from term...or open synaptic and search for mud... :-)08:08
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arrinmurrmphill: i think it should be running by default in ubuntu, so you'd just need to select esd output in the programs you're trying to use. not all programs support esd though08:08
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Ummmmmyay08:08
Ummmmmit's working :)08:08
Ummmmmthanks guys :)08:08
NickGarvey:)08:08
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florin-anyone?08:09
mphillarrinmurr, I followed some steps on ubuntuguide.org and that seems to have fixed it. thanks08:09
NickGarveyeh I have no idea what asus is08:09
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TommckNickGarvey - hardware manufacturer08:10
Ummmmmflorin, there are different ways to tell your monitor to power off08:10
Ummmmmthis may have changed between driver releases ??08:10
NickGarveyTommck: oh okie then08:10
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Apostle^florin-: you can add Option "DPMS" to the device section of your xorg.conf08:11
florin-yes but my powersuply?08:11
Ummmmmdpms08:11
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jramsey export KERNELDIR=/usr/src/linux-headers-'uname -r'08:13
jramsey  <= is this the correct syntax? echo $KERNELDIR doesn't show the kernel version part08:13
crimsunjramsey: use /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build08:13
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jramseycrimsun, ty08:14
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eugmanHey how do you tell what the command for a program is if you are running in the command line?08:14
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florin-Ummmmm: y have option dpms true08:15
PuMpErNiCkLeeugman: man programname will give you details08:15
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eugmanPupernickel , how do I find out the program name? It's apparently different from the package name.08:16
PuMpErNiCkLeeugman: What's the packagename?08:16
eugmantintin++08:16
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Apostle^tintin?08:16
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Apostle^" tintin "08:17
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_jasoneugman: try: dpkg -L packagename | grep bin, for a clue08:17
ZarephathHow do I connect from Ubuntu to Windows with Samba? I can't get to it from Konqueror smb:// or the places drop down08:17
florin-Ummmmm: y have option dpms true08:18
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PuMpErNiCkLeeugman: "tt++"08:18
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eugmanwell lets see if that works.08:18
ZarephathIt browses to workgroup and then can't stat any shares within Workgroup?08:18
colecoGi I am having problems seting up wireless on my laptop08:18
coleco*Hi08:19
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roryyeugman: i suggest reading the docs, in /usr/share/doc/tintin++08:19
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shizhow are you today?08:19
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jramseycoleco, u still having trouble?08:19
eugmanWell pumpernickle has the right answer but I'm glad I know how to find it out via terminal now.08:19
shizis this a very helpful channel to new users of ubuntu?08:19
THJi need to know which package creates the default /etc/X11/Xsession file08:19
NickGarveyshiz: I like to think so..08:19
TommckNickGarvey - can't get that 2nd machine to get past the SATA drive08:20
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jramseyshiz, that is like asking the realtor if the house is fairly priced ;)08:20
TommckNickGarvey - tried noapic nolapic... nothing else seemed that pertinent08:20
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colecojramsey I gave up with the PC wireless card this is a laptop I just got off of ebay and I picked up a wireless card for it08:20
jramseycoleco, ah ok08:20
Gff-MaChey guys, ive got a prob with yaboot running on a g508:20
NickGarveyTommck: anything else?  expert vga=771 or anything? (I don't know if its 771 or not so don't try that)08:21
Gff-MaCit wont boot into mac os08:21
shiznick are you just learning ubuntu?08:21
Tommckcoleco - are you that handheld baseball game with the flashing red lights I used to play with all the time? :008:21
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colecoYes.08:21
NickGarveyshiz: sort of.. I haven't used linux for even 8 months yet08:21
shizis the house fairly priced   ;)08:21
NickGarveyI'd say so08:21
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TommckNickGarvey - you think a vga issue would cause it to hang when dealing with the SATA drive?08:21
Tommckcoleco - :)08:21
NickGarveyhaha no idea08:22
jramseyshiz, the house is a bargain!08:22
NickGarveynot even sure what vga is, it just made mine work though ;)08:22
colecoI think that ubuntu set up the driver stuff for it by default the problem is I dont know how to tell it to connect to my network08:22
shizNick, do you have any recommendations for any new software utilities?08:22
NickGarveyshiz: what kind of stuff are you looking for08:22
jramseyshiz, and seriously this is a gr8 site for ubuntu beginners as long as u dont mind wikis and docs08:22
shizanything cool ;)08:22
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NickGarveyshiz: well firefox 1.5 is nice..08:23
jramseyshiz, meaning do ur homework but the folks on here are gr808:23
shizthanks jramsey08:23
NickGarveyshiz: gaim is good stuff (which you should have already)08:23
shizdoes this place attract regular users?08:23
NickGarveyshiz: what do you mena regular?08:23
Apostle^yes, we have experts here also..08:24
jramseyshiz, there are pros and evangelists here so i think i would say yeah, definitely reg. users08:24
shizlike do you spend much time here on a regular basis?08:24
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shiz;)08:25
jramseyshiz, e.g. _jason is usually here and i haven't stumped him yet with a question08:25
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shizsweet ;)08:25
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shizok then ill have to come back08:25
NickGarvey:)shiz:08:25
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eugmanHey, will I have to unarchive a .txt.gz file to read it?08:26
shizthanks, ill talk with ya guys later08:26
_jasoneugman: use zcat08:26
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NickGarveyadios08:27
_jasoneugman: or zless or zmore08:27
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BoglizkI've found files from the installation of Ubutnu which contains my password, username and full real name, would it be safe to delete this file?08:28
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PuMpErNiCkLeBoglizk: delete it, now :o08:28
eugmanHmmm I did zcat filename | less is that any different then using zless?08:28
PuMpErNiCkLeBoglizk: That's a bug from the installer.08:28
BoglizkOkay, thanks08:28
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eugmanBoglizk updating should take care of it.08:29
BoglizkI havn't seen any new updates08:29
BoglizkHow do i manually check for them?08:29
_jasonBoglizk: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade08:29
ZarephathOk riddle me this folks...why in the hell do I have a /etc/samba/smb.conf file...when samba isn't installed....WTF08:29
nandemonaisont forget the extra sudo on the end Boglizk08:30
nandemonai*dont08:30
Boglizkhuh?08:30
eugmanHey can someone illuminate me on the difference between less and more?08:30
_jasonBoglizk: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, thanks nandemonai08:30
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nandemonai:P08:30
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nandemonaiI do that all the time..08:30
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_jasoneugman: less is better08:32
_jasoneugman: for example, you can't scroll back up with more08:32
spielmannI have a wlan pcmcia card which worked with the rt2500 module in Debian. I'm using Ubuntu now and the module is automatically loaded. However, no network device is created :(   What should I do? :(08:32
Apostle^_jason: no more is better!08:32
GOYINGOHOLA BUENAS ALGUIEN AQUI HABLA ESPAOL SOY DE VENEZIELA08:33
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chicheless is more08:33
_jasonApostle^: no most is best!08:33
NickGarveyless > more08:33
Apostle^_jason: hehe08:33
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NickGarveyassuming you mean the commands..08:33
kbrooksincredible.08:33
_jason!es08:33
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:33
kbrooksswitch useer works flawlessly08:33
jramseyon Evolution setup, should UTC be selected as the timezone??08:33
Apostle^jramsey: select your local timezone?08:33
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eugman_jason, ok then whats the difference between cat and more?08:34
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_jasoneugman: cat just prints the whole thing to your terminal, more gives you a page at a time, just try them, you'll see08:34
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jramseyApostle^, i assumed utc was universal but i selected my own time zone08:34
chichecat is a smaller tiger08:34
PuMpErNiCkLemeow08:35
Apostle^hmm08:35
Yoehttps://launchpad.net/people/vcs-imports/+branch/nbd/main -- this should point to sf.net's subversion now, rather than CVS08:35
Apostle^dapper is nice :-p08:35
chichehahahha08:35
NickGarveydapper is nice :)08:35
chichedapper?08:35
Boglizkdapper i havn't tried yet08:35
NickGarvey!dapper08:35
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)08:35
chicheubuntu-108:35
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eugman_jason on one last thing. Is there any difference bwteen me doing zless on a file and me doing zcat file | less  ?08:36
_jasoneugman: not really08:36
graftprobably buffers differently08:36
Apostle^some time's ubuntu repo's are very fast, some times slow :-(08:37
Apostle^i get between 80 KB/S to 1Mb lol.08:37
kbrooksis there a generic ubuntu FAQ?08:37
Boglizk100/10 MB ftw :d08:37
kbrookser08:37
kbrookssry08:38
NickGarvey!faq08:38
ubotuThe most Frequently Asked Questions of #ubuntu are summarized on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaqOnIrc - please have a look - see also !desktopguide08:38
PuMpErNiCkLeApostle^: Right after they release a new beta is probably a bad time to update. ;)08:38
NickGarveyif you want the irc one08:38
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Apostle^PuMpErNiCkLe: hmm?08:38
chichewell, can we rebuild ubuntu from the source?08:39
PuMpErNiCkLeApostle^: That's when everyone else is updating, so the servers get a lot more load than usual.08:39
Apostle^PuMpErNiCkLe: new beta of what, ubuntu ?08:39
NickGarveyoh yeah08:39
PuMpErNiCkLeApostle^: dapper08:39
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NickGarveyI am going to need to get up at midnight to update08:39
Apostle^PuMpErNiCkLe: oh, i updated to dapper last night08:39
chicheso?08:39
chicheis it good?08:40
Apostle^yea it is08:40
Apostle^really good08:40
chichehow fine?08:40
Apostle^20% faster than breezy08:40
Apostle^in my opinion08:40
chicheoh08:40
BoglizkBut its just a BETA08:40
Apostle^Boglizk: in linux all that means is a few broken packages :-P08:40
chichehow to get the 20% number?08:40
graftand not even that, really08:40
PuMpErNiCkLeIt was intended to be released now... the extra dev time is just a bonus. :)08:40
grafti've been using dapper for months, and it's always been great08:40
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graftchiche: reach into your ass and pull it out08:41
jramseyApostle^, why the speed increase??08:41
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BoglizkAllright... i think i'll wait though08:41
chiche...08:41
Apostle^jramsey: new kernel i guess08:41
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PuMpErNiCkLejramsey: gnome 2.14 was massively optimized08:41
DUMAiSOany program in gnome to edit mp3 tags?08:41
graftchiche: (i.e., it's more or less made up)08:41
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apokryphosDUMAiSO: any of its mp3 players. i.e. rhythmbox08:42
_jasonDUMAiSO: easytag is one08:42
jramseyoh so the speed increase is with gnome and not a new minor kernel 2.6 rev bump??08:42
apokryphosor beep08:42
chichea average fvwm > a optimized gnome08:42
PuMpErNiCkLejramsey: pretty much08:42
DUMAiSO_jason, does it search in the internet and apply tags to the files?08:42
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GOYINGOHOLA SOY YO DE NUEVO COMO HAGO PARA CONECTARME A UN CHAT EN ESPAOL08:42
Apostle^!es08:42
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:42
_jasonDUMAiSO: I don't use it that much, but I don't think it does08:42
PuMpErNiCkLe!se08:42
kbrooks!ES08:42
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se08:42
PuMpErNiCkLeoops08:42
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:42
kbrooks!caps08:42
ubotuFYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.08:42
shiz_jason can you recommend a really secure firewall program with lots of features for the Ubuntu 5.10?08:42
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PuMpErNiCkLelol08:43
DUMAiSOok08:43
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Apostle^shiz: firestarter08:43
_jason!firewall08:43
Ummmmmhmm i've been unable to get flash since i installed this pc ... blasted macromedia, they have an invalid url on their download page for linux. Anyone know of any other way to install flash without having to use macromedia's site?08:43
ubotuUbuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.08:43
jramseyPuMpErNiCkLe, i am not sure i can deal with a gui 20% improvement in performance; i have been polluted with Windows upgrades that progressively run slower on the same machine08:43
chicheI found one thing, kernel 2.6.x took something away from the souce...08:43
shizyeah08:43
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shizim looking 2 get secure08:43
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Apostle^shiz: linux already is08:43
chicheso, 2.4 is better than 2.6 for now08:43
PuMpErNiCkLejramsey: lol - welcome to linux :D08:43
RancidLMhey all08:43
kbrooksshiz: ubuntu is secure by default08:43
_jasonUmmmmm: I think you can install flashplayer-mozilla from the repos08:43
graftchiche: took something away from the source?08:43
shizis it really?08:44
kbrooksshiz: yes08:44
_jasonUmmmmm: erm, mozilla-flashplayer08:44
RancidLMdoes any one know of a good way of sync'ing documents from one computer to laptop using a centrial server?08:44
crimsun_jason: (please suggest flashplugin-nonfree, since the other has been removed from pool due to illegal distribution)08:44
shizwhat do you think of firestarter08:44
chichemmm, some "format" surports08:44
kbrooksshiz: it doesnt open any remote ports08:44
GOYINGOHELLO IM NEW IN UBUNTU I NEED HELP FOR USE THE CHAT UBUNTO IN SPANISH08:44
kbrooksshiz: i use it08:44
jramseyPuMpErNiCkLe, i now hate windows; outlook decided on its own to turn off encrypted email so it stopped sending mail to comcast but could read it; comcast said "we dont support the full version of outlook" nice eh?08:44
_jasoncrimsun: I assumed he was having problems with that since he said the url wasn't working08:44
arrinmurrDUMAiSO: are you looking for something like musicbrainz? amaroK has some kind of musicbrainz integration08:44
danne755!es08:44
kbrooksGOYINGO:08:44
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:44
kbrooks!es08:44
kbrooks!caps08:44
ubotuFYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.08:44
roryyGOYINGO: /join #ubuntu-es08:44
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shizkbrooks are you a sys adiim?08:45
crimsun_jason: he needs to use a mirror by reading the update script.08:45
PuMpErNiCkLeubotu: tell GOYINGO about es08:45
kbrooksshiz: no, altho i would use ubuntu if i were08:45
DUMAiSOarrinmurr, i don't know musicbrainz08:45
PuMpErNiCkLejramsey: phun :o08:45
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kbrooksuh, shiz08:46
kbrooksand everyone08:46
arrinmurrDUMAiSO: see musicbrainz.org08:46
kbrooks:P i'm 1508:46
shizdo you find that the software provided in the universe and those repositories helpful and secure?08:46
endeavormacI'm looking for a program that can tell me how many kilobits or kilobytes (doesn't matter) are being transferred a second over a connection. Any recommendations?08:46
kingspawncan gparted resize ntfs?08:46
jinho hi does anyone know how to get a 5 button mouse (MS Intellimouse) to work in firefox/filemanager...the stuff in the forums hasnt helped me...08:46
kbrooksshiz: dont be sooooo concerned08:46
DUMAiSOarrinmurr, i will08:46
graftthere's 15-year-old sysadmins...08:46
PuMpErNiCkLeendeavormac: the system monitor has that capability, and it's installed by default08:46
kbrookskingspawn: with ntfsresize08:46
roryyendeavormac: i like iptraf  (command-line program)08:46
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thingfishI'm making a new launcher (gnome) but for some reason when I browse to pick an icon for the new launcher, all choices - no matter which dir I go to - are greyed out.08:47
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endeavormacok, thanks08:47
graftyeah, iptraf is great08:47
PuMpErNiCkLeendeavormac: np :)08:47
_jasoncrimsun: is that offered during the install or would one have to go searching for it?08:47
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kbrooksabc08:47
shizim settleing in08:47
shizlol08:47
kingspawnkbrooks: thanks08:47
jramseyPuMpErNiCkLe, where is sysmon? available thru a gnome dropdown?08:47
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kbrooksjramsey: installable08:47
jramseynevermind i see it08:47
PuMpErNiCkLejramsey: :)08:47
graftargh... damn wireless card08:47
DUMAiSOarrinmurr, yes, i am looking for something like musicbrainz08:47
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jramseylook first, ask second08:48
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arrinmurrDUMAiSO: Picard might be what you need, see http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/PicardLinuxInstall#ubuntupackages08:48
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jinho hi does anyone know how to get a 5 button mouse (MS Intellimouse) to work in firefox/thunar?08:48
DUMAiSOarrinmurr, ok, thanks08:48
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graftjinho: what do you mean 'in firefox'?08:48
jinhograft: like the forward/back buttons08:49
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jinhograft: that are on the sides of the mouse08:49
_jasonUmmmmm: so, to clear things up.  Did you try installing flashplugin-nonfree first?08:49
crimsun_jason: post-08:49
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theplatypuserror when to write to an external hd."Error while copying to "/media/backup" " any ideas08:49
theplatypusattempting*08:49
jinhograft: does that clear things up?08:50
graftjinho: um, firstly, you should tell your X windows that you have a five button mouse08:50
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kbrookshow do i increase  the nice level in gsm08:51
thingfishI'm making a new launcher (gnome) but for some reason when I browse to pick an icon for the new launcher, all choices - no matter which dir I go to - are greyed out.08:51
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haakonnwhy must dvds still be so hard to play correctly on linux? vlc is the only one that will play movies successfully, but it flickers a lot, as if i'm playing an mpeg4 on a 486 :/08:52
thingfishHow do I choose an icon?08:52
graftjinho: after that you can probably get firefox to recognize the extra buttons08:52
grafthaakonn: mplayer!08:52
haakonngraft:  mplayer dvd:// exits with some error08:52
graftmplayer dvd://<track number>08:52
haakonn"Couldn't open /dev/3dfx"08:52
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kbrooksabc08:53
grafterr.. hm08:53
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jramseyanyone know where i can find the evolution setup for comcast high-speed? the evolution wiki doesn't show anything and comcast's site is pretty useless08:53
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TommckNickGarvey - tried a different machine... same problem08:53
antoniojulioi find howto postfix and ldap , do you help me?08:53
jinhograft: how do I tell x windows that? (I'm a noob)08:53
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TommckNickGarvey - and the Live 5.04 version works fine.08:53
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jablotronikhi guys, i have a problem with GRUB, i have installed Ubuntu firstly, and after that i have installed Kubuntu on other partition. and now i want to make Ubuntu Grub, from first instalation active, how to do it ?08:54
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graftjinho: um. need me to walk you through it? you edit your xorg.conf and put a "Buttons" "7" option in the mouse section08:55
grafthaakonn: try a different video-out with mplayer08:55
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haakonngraft:  yeah, working on it :)08:55
jinhograft: this is the same thing I did in the forums...and it didnt seem to help...08:55
ekahi all08:55
grafthaakonn: just do -vo xv, that's usually ideal08:55
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haakonngraft:  "Xv: could not grab port 61"08:56
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haakonngraft:  ah, some mplayer process if clogging08:56
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grafthaakonn: um. you've got multip... yeah08:56
haakonn:)08:56
haakonnstupid mplayerplug-in08:56
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jinhoare there noticable differences in speed btwn amd64 ubuntu and i386  ubuntu if you have an amd64 cpu?08:57
Kenniei expired trouble with libs on 64bit08:57
gnomefreakjinho: imo if there is a speed difference its not worth the trouble08:58
Pegasos989(iso08:58
Pegasos989!iso08:58
{BiK}thriftanyone know how ubuntu stores it's per user fonts settings?08:58
jinhohaha08:58
ubotu[iso]  download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto08:58
Pegasos989!mounting08:58
ubotuPegasos989: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:58
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ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Pegasos98908:58
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matth-wHello08:58
gnomefreakubotu tell Pegasos989 -about msg the bot08:59
ekai'm just installing ubuntu and is at 85% installing packages for long time, ichecked top and aptitude is running but i dont know why is taking so long08:59
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theplatypuseka: is it updating?08:59
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catskulanyone know what the name of the package is which contains the network "monitor applet"08:59
ekatheplatypus: fresh instalation08:59
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theplatypuseka:are you using Breezy or Drake?09:00
gnomefreakim thinking its kind of hard to check top and aptitude during install09:00
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{BiK}thriftanyone know how ubuntu stores it's per user fonts settings?09:00
matth-wAlright, I've got a question about my cam if anyone is able to help.. I have camorama installed, when I run it, it says to check connection (/dev/video0)09:00
{BiK}thriftI'd like to restore my fonts to defaults, i messed em all up ;)09:00
crimsun{BiK}thrift: for gnome, they're stored in gconf09:00
{BiK}thriftdo you know the key?  I  searched for font and got no hits09:00
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deluxehi i have just installed dapper drake flight 6 amd64 for my shuttle xpc st20g5 (athlon 64 3000+ 1 gig ram ati 200xpress thing and 6800gs and sata hard drive) after letting dapper update i no longer have a working xserver and no eth009:01
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haakonncan mplayer do dvd menus?09:01
ekagnomefreak: what do you mean? i'm on anothr term09:01
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{BiK}thriftdeluxe: do you have the restricted modules installed?09:01
deluxei dont know how do i find out09:02
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_SGershonHi all.09:02
_SGershonWhat is the09:03
grafthaakonn: no... i think only VLC does that (not even sure about that)09:03
_SGershonwhat is the root password of the live CD?09:03
deluxe{BiK}thrifti know that i need to have the intel snd hda deal blacklisted because of the sound card on board09:03
Tommck_SGershon - can you get me a date with Gina?09:03
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deluxe{BiK}thrift know that i need to have the intel snd hda deal blacklisted because of the sound card on board09:03
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haakonnyeah, vlc does it09:03
{BiK}thriftdeluxe: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`09:04
grafthaakonn: xine might do it...09:04
deluxei am unable to bring up eth0 do i still go ahead and issue that command i dont know if ubuntu uses distfiles like gentoo09:04
{BiK}thrifti am using ubuntu and just had to do that command today09:05
{BiK}thrifti would try it, ethernet and video are restricted modules on ubuntu if you are using nforce board09:05
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n3stormI everybody09:05
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n3stormI am having trouble with networking09:05
{BiK}thriftdeluxe: do you have any other ethernet connection?09:05
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grafthey jinho ... does your scroll wheel tilt?09:05
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Heimo#tuo09:05
n3stormthe problem is:09:06
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n3stormsometimes I can ping my gateway sometime I don't09:06
jinhograft: what do you mean tilt?09:06
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graftjinho: i mean does it tilt left and right for additional functions09:06
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n3stormsometimes dnss resolv and sometimes doesn't09:06
jinhograft: nope..its just a regular scroll09:06
Jowin3storm: are you using a router as your gateway?09:06
escobar5hello, i'm still trying to mount my ipod, when i connect it this is what i get running dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12733, anybody knows what is the problem??09:07
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deluxe{Bik}thrift i do but for some reason it wouldnt allow me to use it09:07
davsHy!09:07
ekait can be that a cd installation is downloading some packages?09:07
n3stormyes09:07
ekahwo can i see whats happening?09:07
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n3stormnow I am on a laptop that works perfectly09:07
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Jowin3storm: does restarting the router solve it temporary?09:07
n3stormyes, sometimes09:07
graftjinho: well... as far as i can tell, what you wanna do is set your protocol to ExplorerPS/2 in xorg.conf, install imwheel, and configure it for firefox09:07
{BiK}thriftumm you have to be able to sudo and you have to have inet access09:07
jinhograft: the mouse is simply 2 side buttons for forward/backwards, left, right mouse btn, and a middle scroll wheel w/ middle mouse button capabilities09:07
jinhograft: k09:07
n3stormbut I have three machines here: Jowi09:07
deluxei cant bring it up it says it doesnt exist but when  i tried to run the command you said it said dpkg was interrupted and that i needed to do a dpkg reconfigure -a which im doing09:08
JarG0nIs there a recommended hardware list for Ubuntu?09:08
Jowin3storm: to make sure, you can connect to internet without the router. if that helps, you might want to call techsupport of the router for replacement...09:08
n3stormthe three of them with (k)ubuntu09:08
n3stormand I am only having trouble with one09:08
n3stormI have changed wires, etc...09:08
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matth-wAlright, I've got a question about my cam if anyone is able to help.. I have camorama installed, when I run it, it says to check connection (/dev/video0)09:08
{BiK}thriftdeluxe: ok i have never seen that before, so if it works...great :)09:08
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GTroyanyone good with dapper wifi?09:09
MenZa#ubuntu+109:09
GTroythanks menza09:09
Jowin3storm: ah. when you changed cables, did you also try to connect to a known good port like one that another of your computers use?09:09
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n3stormyes09:09
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n3stormI tried all that09:09
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JarG0nIs there a recommended hardware list for Ubuntu?  Specifically, I'm looking for video cards.09:09
n3stormI was connected to a switch before09:10
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n3stormand now I am directly connected to the router09:10
deluxe{BiK}thrift hopefully thx alot though you've been the most help in the ubuntu chat room for me ever cant wait till i stop being lazy and install gentoo again09:10
apokryphosJarG0n: nvidia :D09:10
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n3stormand nothing changes09:10
Jowin3storm: could still be the router, but it may also be faulty network card or driver problem.09:10
green_earzn3storm: check to see if the rounter as a idle time setting in which it will drop the connection to your isp. set up the router so there is no idle time, so its connected all the time09:10
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JarG0napo> that's a good start :)09:10
{BiK}thriftdelux: :/ gentoo :(09:10
n3stormgreen_earz: I can't ping the gateway09:10
apokryphosJarG0n: how much have you got to spend? ;-)09:10
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onthostanyone experienced with old world macs & ubuntu here?09:11
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n3storminternet is working through the router as you can see, I am writting from another laptop09:11
escobar5hello, i'm still trying to mount my ipod, when i connect it this is what i get running dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12733, anybody knows what is the problem??09:11
Jowigreen_earz: the other computers connected to the router has internet access09:11
ekahow can i see network use from terminal?09:11
roryyeka: iptraf09:11
{BiK}thrifteka: tcpump?09:11
onthostI get the error "/scripts/local-top/evms: 31: /sbin/evms_activate not found" on boot and it dumps me ot a shell09:11
JarG0napo> this is an old box, i don't want to spend hardly anything.  Any upgrade is better than the 8mb video card I have now.09:11
n3stormI am not a poweruser, but I am not newbie ;)09:11
n3stormI have restarted the machine several times now09:12
green_earzn3storm: it looks like its some thing that on the machine ethernet that you are using09:12
apokryphosJarG0n: I'd say go for an nvidia fx5200. They're quite cheap ($30 or less, or so, now) and *very* decent09:12
{BiK}thriftanyone know how to restore the font settings for a user to the ubuntu defaults?09:12
Jowin3storm: i would try if another kernel version helps.09:12
apokryphosJarG0n: for all other hardware: /msg ubotu hardware09:12
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JarG0ngreat!  thank you09:12
ekaroryy: its not installed ... i'm installing09:13
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graftargh. anyone know how to keep flash from continually crashing firefox?09:13
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n3stormgreen_earz:,Jowi when I nmap myself09:14
[1] justinhey - i'm having problems getting my ubuntu to boot.  can anyone give me a hand?09:14
MenZa[1] justin: what's the problem?09:14
n3stormI see 32770 and 32771 ports are open09:14
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MenZaDoes it start in a command-line interface, or doesn't start at all?09:14
escobar5hello, i'm still trying to mount my ipod, when i connect it this is what i get running dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12733, anybody knows what is the problem??09:14
freezeycan someone answer a few questions about samba09:14
n3stormdoes it have any sense?09:14
Jowin3storm: what are those for?09:14
{BiK}thriftask em09:14
n3stormno idea...09:15
[1] justinit's been working for a while, and then grub started complaining...i popped in the install disc, went to rescue, tried reinstalling grub, but it still just says 'GRUB' on powerup, and sits there09:15
n3stormchecking at google09:15
MenZa:\09:15
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grouthow can i installthe latest nvidia drivers?09:15
freezeyi just edited my smb.conf so it shares 3 folders that i want to be my 3 drives on my windows network09:15
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apokryphosgrout: are you on breezy?09:15
freezeybut like i am thinking that its just folders its not the actualy drives09:15
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n3stormumm09:15
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Jowin3storm: "sudo lsof -i tcp:32770", note the PID, and then "ps -fg PIDnumber to see what program uses it09:16
[1] justinMenZa, so no command line interface or anything - just GRUB and then dead silence09:16
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MenZaI wouldn't know :\09:16
[1] justinMenZa, no errors, either09:16
paxfreezey: samba is mainly for win machines to access resources on Linux machines.09:16
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grouthow can i install the latest nvidia drivers?09:17
OffHandgrout: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7507409:17
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OffHandI just used that guide myself. It's not easy though09:17
n3stormJowi: hplip, hp printers09:17
sfarwhere can i change so that "Computer" "Trash" and "Home" icons is not visible on the desktop?09:18
Jowin3storm: network sharing printers. ah.09:18
[1] justinso does anyone know anything about making grub work? :)09:18
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OffHandgrout it helps when you are sort of comfortable with the command line09:18
arunHi all.. i m hitting an error that says cannot find -lXmu (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12734) when i am installing a package called sage.. does anybody know what i should install to solve this problem09:18
n3stormI didnt explicity share them?09:18
OffHandand print it out09:18
n3stormbut i dont think that is the problem09:18
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Jowin3storm: hplip is installed by default (only for laptops?) if i'm not mistaken09:19
ekahow to execute instructions that need root acces?09:19
escobar5hello, i'm still trying to mount my ipod, when i connect it this is what i get running dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12733, anybody knows what is the problem?09:19
JarG0nwow!  This is a short list of supported motherboards! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMotherboards09:19
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pax!reinstallgrub09:19
Jowin3storm: i've no printer so i removed cups and all. can't say if that can be a problem or not.09:19
ubotureinstallgrub is, like, totally, to reinstall GRUB, follow the guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7665209:19
_SGershonI connwected an USB mouse and it was not detected, how can I detect it manually? (ubuntu live)09:19
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ekai mean commands09:20
ekacause i use sudo but it ask me root passwk09:20
Jowieka: try your own password09:20
paxuser your user's passwd09:20
paxuse*09:20
JarG0nwhy do bots attack this room?09:20
_SGershonI connwected an USB mouse and it was not detected, how can I detect it manually? (ubuntu live)09:21
_SGershonconn*ected09:21
n3stormJowi: all I can say is I have this printer a couple of months ago09:21
n3stormand the network started failing this evening09:21
apokryphosJarG0n: they're attacking a lot of Freenode. They specifically tend to target large channels (such as this one)09:21
paxbecause lamers think they're l33t by disrubting this channel, JarG0n09:21
apokryphosthey don't really survive long in here, usually :)09:22
JarG0napokryphos> how does this benefit the perpetrators?09:22
apokryphosJarG0n: it gives them some sort of pleasure09:22
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Jowi_SGershon: go here: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ follow the instructions and see what driver look to be the one you want. then do "sudo modprobe modulename"09:22
makolhola!09:22
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JarG0napokryphos> or is it complete idiocy?  ah, makes sense then.09:22
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groutcant automatix or easy ubuntu install the drivers?09:22
_SGershonJowi i will check09:22
graftwait, what bot attacked this channel?09:23
apokryphosJarG0n: on rare occassions you get unintelligent people trying to get other channels shut down by pretending to spam for them09:23
gnomefreak!automatix09:23
ubotuautomatix is, like, totally, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.09:23
[1] justinpax, that provides two methods - is there any difference between doing 'grub-install hd1' and using the gui to do it?  i already tried the 'grub-install' with no success - still says 'GRUB' on powerup, and stares at me.09:23
Jowin3storm: could be a failing network card or a connector attached to it. have you upgraded the kernel this evening? if you did, try the old one.09:23
arunhi.. i want get freetype-config in ubuntu.. i tried installing all the freetype items in synaptic but couldnt get it working.. any ideas on how to get it..09:23
n3stormgnomefreak: I read easyubuntu is not developed anymore09:23
pax[1] justin: then try the other method?09:23
kbrooksn3storm: actuqally09:24
kbrooksn3storm: see #easyubuntu09:24
[1] justinpax, ok, lets see09:24
kbrooksn3storm: thats a myth09:24
gnomefreakn3storm: neither of them atm run on dapper but yes easy ubuntu is still out there09:24
n3stormJowi: Ill try that09:24
kbrooksn3storm: who told u that it isnt developed anymore09:24
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n3stormI read it at a blog09:25
apokryphoslink?09:25
kbrooksn3storm: URL?09:25
gnomefreakkbrooks: maybe the automatix people on the forums ;)09:25
n3stormmmm09:25
gnomefreaklol09:25
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palle#nslu2-general09:25
n3stormspanish translator of automatix ;)09:25
apokryphos*easybreezy* isn't developed anymore (and that's not entirely accurate, as it merged)09:25
kbrooksgnomefreak: Very funny09:25
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gnomefreakkbrooks: i wasnt kidding in a sense09:25
n3stormif I remember09:25
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gnomefreakapokryphos: what did it merge with?09:26
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dracflamlochey all. is the new beta of xfce 4.4 available for ubuntu?09:26
apokryphosgnomefreak: easyubuntu09:26
kbrooksgnomefreak: the original version of EU09:26
LuKe-LuKedoes anyone used Gnash on amd64 ??09:26
gnomefreakoh ok09:26
apokryphoswhich automatix was originally based on :P09:26
IceTox!tar09:27
apokryphosIceTox: what are you trying to do? :)09:27
groutwhats the key shortcut to switch virtual desktops?09:27
kbrooksIceTox: what do u wwant help on?09:27
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Jowigrout: ctrl+alt+F1, F2 etc. graphical display is at F709:27
Der_RichterSince i wanted to run KDE, because my girlfriend likes it better than Sawfish/GNOME, i did get it with apt. Seems to work like a charm. But some software are run as regular user, which makes for trouble. The config-softwares for instance. At first i liked it, but now, as an old Slackware-regular this sudo-only stuff is annoying. Any ideas?09:27
redguy!xgl09:28
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/09:28
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IceToxapokryphos and kbrooks I just neded help on how to untar a tar.gz file. tar -zxvf didn't work09:28
Der_RichterSince i wanted to run KDE, because my girlfriend likes it better than Sawfish/GNOME, i did get it with apt. Seems to work like a charm. But some software are run as regular user, which makes for trouble. The config-softwares for instance. At first i liked it, but now, as an old Slackware-regular this sudo-only stuff is annoying. Any ideas?09:28
Jowigrout: oh wait, you said virtual desktops, not console. sorry09:28
Jowigrout: i need a pause it seems09:28
apokryphosIceman: what's the error?09:28
apokryphos* IceTox09:28
IceTox=)09:28
IceToxLemme paste it into the bin09:28
timmy334is there a way to tell apt-get to NOT install the wacom driver? when I update it destroys my xorg09:28
groutthx09:28
n3stormJowi: I am starting the machine with a live cd09:28
gnomefreakIceTox: tar zxvf file.tar.gz09:28
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IceToxtried that already gnomefreak09:29
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Jowin3storm: ...like you usually do or just to test?09:29
_jasonIceTox: what does 'file name_of_file.tar.gz' say?09:29
LuKe-LuKeDer_Richter:  "sudo su" and  you're root09:29
IceTox_jason, I will paste it now09:29
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gnomefreakin pastebin i hope09:29
n3stormJowi: for testing purposes09:29
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fidthanks to you guys in this channel I was able to customize my ubuntu desktop to look like this..09:30
Jowin3storm: cool. just asking to make sure i didn't miss anything09:30
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fidhttp://www.howtostartafire.net/images/Screenshot.png09:30
LuKe-LuKedoes anyone used Gnash on amd64 ??09:30
unstableDo all Ubuntu releases have a 5 year support?09:30
apokryphosno09:30
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_jasonunstable: only dapper and after09:30
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apokryphosunstable: only the LTS versions09:30
unstableLuKe-LuKe: It will only work up to flash version 4ish...It's very very early development.09:30
Der_RichterLuKe-LuKe: Yep. But that only stretches as far as the active cosole?09:30
apokryphos_jason: no09:30
unstableLuKe-LuKe: You are shit out of luck on flash/64bit..You need to wait.09:30
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unstable!lts09:31
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, unstable09:31
IceTox_jason, gnomefreak apokryphos and kbrooks: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1273609:31
IceTox:-)09:31
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unstableapokryphos: LTS?09:31
_jasonapokryphos: was about to ask if lts was everything after dapper, but I got my answer09:31
apokryphosLong Term Support09:31
GTroyhey guys networking problems with dapper...how do I install kernel iteration 19?09:31
unstableapokryphos: Which versions will have Long term Support?09:31
gnomefreakunstable: desktop 3 years server 5years for dapper only atm09:31
unstableapokryphos: All versions after dapper?09:31
apokryphosunstable: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases09:31
timmy334is there a way to tell apt-get to NOT install the wacom driver? when I update it destroys my xorg09:31
blindxAnyone with an iPod recommend any particular pod management utilities?09:31
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timmy334blindx, gtkpod09:32
Apostle^blindx: gtkpod09:32
OffHandtimmy334, you can lock it in synaptic09:32
kbrooksunstable: no09:32
blindxhaha gtkpod it is.09:32
GTroy!iteration09:32
ubotuGTroy: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:32
LuKe-LuKei've got debootstrab chroot installed but ... then i have to update also my 32 chroot ubuntu all the time :(09:32
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[1] justintimmy334, can't you just apt-get remove it09:32
apokryphostimmy334: yes, man apt_preferences09:32
Eftarjinhi09:32
gnomefreakLuKe-LuKe: gplflash is a flash for 64bit09:32
timmy334[1] justin, nope09:32
GTroy!kernel09:32
JinkgunsHas anyone here done business with System 76?09:32
timmy334once it's installed my xorg is hosed permanently09:32
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LuKe-LuKegnomefreak: Have you tried it?09:33
escobar5hello, i'm still trying to mount my ipod, when i connect it this is what i get running dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12733, anybody knows what is the problem?09:33
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_jasonapokryphos: is enterprise equiv. to lts?09:33
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gnomefreakLuKe-LuKe: i would never install 64bit to begin with09:33
timmy334fid, where did you get that wallpaper and those icons on your top panel?09:33
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apokryphos_jason: yes09:34
LuKe-LuKegnomefreak: why?09:34
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NickGarveyyeah 64 and linux don't play to nice..09:35
gnomefreakLuKe-LuKe: alot of apps are a pita to get to run on 64 hence your flash issues09:35
IceToxgnomefreak, do you happend to know the solution of my problem? I can't tar the file.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1273609:35
ralphhello again09:35
_jasonIceTox: gunzip the file and then run 'file' on it again09:35
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ralphi have another stupid question.....i have ubuntu on an older computer and this new one...on older one i can run .sh files...on new install i can not...what am i missing?09:35
GTroycan anyone post a link to how to go to kernel iteration 19?09:36
GTroyfrom 20?09:36
IceToxstill the same reply on file _jason09:36
apokryphosralph: what's the error?09:36
_jasonralph: the .sh files on the new install probably don't have execute permission09:36
ralphno error.....just doesnt run09:36
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GTroy!kernel09:36
ralphhmmmm......dont remember changing permissions on older install09:36
_jasonIceTox: when you did gunzip, you should end up with file.tar.  Did you do 'file file.tar' then?09:36
LuKe-LuKegnomefreak: I don't have any other problems with amd64. flash works for me, but I would like to have it working without chroot!09:37
apokryphosralph: if there's no error then in theory it runs just fine09:37
blindxjust to make sure, clicking "sync" in gtkpod is going to copy my files to my ipod, leaving the existing db intact, right?09:37
IceToxiyt's a tar.gz file _jason09:37
IceTox*its09:37
apokryphosralph: whether your script does what you expect it to though is another question09:37
_jasonIceTox: gunzip file.tar.gz09:37
gnomefreakLuKe-LuKe: gplflash will work on 64 without chroot but again hit or miss09:37
Apostle^ralph: blindx yea09:37
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matth-wAlright, I've got a question about my cam if anyone is able to help.. I have camorama installed, when I run it, it says to check connection (/dev/video0)09:37
ralphhmmm.....i'm trying to run programs that ran just fine on older install09:37
GameOver69hey guys my brother just upgraded to dapper, with apt-get upgrade distro, and changing the sources list from breezy to dapper, but now we have some problems09:38
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gnomefreakLuKe-LuKe: there are about half the apps for 64 than 32 unless you run them in chroot and that is too much trouble for me to do09:38
_jasonralph: how are you trying to run them?09:38
apokryphosGameOver69: /msg ubotu dapper09:38
GameOver69we see that preparing restricted drivers and starting PCMCIA services fails09:38
BearKnuckleHi, one short question: How good is the ability of ubuntu to update from one version (let's say 5.10) to the next (let's say 6)?09:38
gnomefreakGameOver69: ubuntu+1 for dapper please09:38
GameOver69i cant get in09:38
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ralphjust double clicking the .sh file09:38
GameOver69im banned09:38
GameOver69for what09:38
n3stormmatth-w: what happens?09:38
GameOver69i dont know09:38
ralphwhen i run in terminal it goes by too fast to read09:38
gnomefreakralph: | less09:38
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gnomefreakwait no nm not on sh file09:39
LuKe-LuKegnomefreak: gplflash doesn't work for me ... i can see only gray box in place where flash things should be!09:39
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GameOver69please help the computer is useless right now :(09:39
matth-wI open camorama, and it says "Could not connect to video device (/dev/video0) Please check connection"09:39
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gnomefreakLuKe-LuKe: reason i said hit or miss09:39
ralphyes.....sh files are named09:39
_jasonralph: what command do you use to run the sh file?09:39
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LuKe-LuKegnomefreak: I found almost ever app that I was looking for09:39
ralphno bash....just running from gui09:40
blindxit deleted my DB. sonnnn of aaaaaaa09:40
IceTox_jason, hehe.. got it now :-9 thanks a lot09:40
_jasonIceTox: it is still a tar though?09:40
ralphshould i try to run from actual terminal?09:40
_jasonralph: yes09:40
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ralphk....brb09:40
blindxhm. the music is still there. how do i ... get my DB back. :|09:40
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gnomefreaki think i know why you were banned09:40
PlayboySiclianowhy09:41
gnomefreakstop changing your name09:41
PlayboySiclianothanks but thats not it09:41
PlayboySiclianoi thought changing my name would get me in09:41
PlayboySiclianobut i geuss they hav emy ip09:41
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ralphok.....i havent used bash in years......what's the command to run?09:41
gnomefreaknope it annoys the channel and can get you kicked/banned09:41
IceTox_jason, it changed from tar.gz to tar, and then I was able to tar -zxvf it :-)09:41
PlayboySiclianoi never changed my name ever09:41
n3stormmatth-w:  can you explain what happens to your camorama?09:41
PlayboySiclianoi just idd now so that i thought i could get in09:41
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gnomefreakmost ops wont ban you from name09:42
_jasonIceTox: k09:42
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PlayboySiclianoexactly09:42
FallenHitokirii get mount: RPC: Program not registered when i try to mount a nfs server. i know that there is a package missing on my client but i have no idea which one09:42
_jasonIceTox: looks like someone gzipped it twice09:42
PlayboySiclianoi didnt do anything so i dont know09:42
gnomefreakso changing your name isnt helping you get it09:42
gnomefreakin09:42
PlayboySiclianook but i was never in there in the first place09:42
ralph.....command to run an executable in bash anyone?09:42
n3stormJowi: still around?09:42
kbrooksgnomefreak: alert the ops09:43
gnomefreakapokryphos: ?09:43
apokryphoshi09:43
crimsunwhat's the issue?09:43
IceToxthanks anyway _jason.. it's All fixed now =)09:43
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gnomefreakcan someone find out why he was banned from ubuntu+! or who09:43
ralphand they are set as executables in the permissions09:43
gnomefreak+109:43
PlayboySiclianoyes please09:43
crimsunwhy who?09:43
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PlayboySiclianomr09:44
PlayboySiclianome09:44
apokryphosgnomefreak: I can't check the bans list; seveas banned him, though09:44
kbrookscrimsun: PlayboySicliano09:44
Jowin3storm: yup, but with a kid on my arm so typing is less than quick. did livecd help?09:44
n3stormmatth-w: better if we talk here so everybody learns09:44
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apokryphosPlayboySicliano: please go to #ubuntu-offtopic and ask seveas there09:44
gnomefreakPlayboySicliano:  because he cant get in and he keeps changing names :(09:44
matth-wAlright09:44
kbrooksapokryphos: did he ban a host?09:44
jmoschetti45the #xorg guys sent me over here with this09:44
jmoschetti45(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so09:44
jmoschetti45(EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (loader failed, 7)09:44
jmoschetti45(EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0)09:44
jmoschetti45(EE) Failed to load module "kbd" (module does not exist, 0)09:44
jmoschetti45(EE) Failed to load module "mouse" (module does not exist, 0)09:44
jmoschetti45(EE) No drivers available09:44
matth-wn3storm, What do you mean explain what happens? I run the program and it just says what I said...09:44
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jmoschetti45Fatal server error:09:44
jmoschetti45no screens found09:44
fidso with a fresh install of ubuntu 5.10 and after all updates, are there any security issues i should be aware of?09:44
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gnomefreakjmoschetti45: no pasting09:44
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n3stormJowi: hehe, ubuntu live cd doesn't get networking09:44
piyocan somebody help me? I am reading a guide that tell how to install realplayer 10, but i got stuck at giving a command "sudo ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin"09:44
n3stormso I guess is the router09:44
_jasonubotu: tell piyo about realplayer09:44
kbrooksSeveas: deal with PlayboySicliano09:44
piyoso where i have to type that command09:45
kbrooksban him now!09:45
_jasonpiyo: use the deb on the restricted formats page09:45
piyo?09:45
martyni have mounted 2 NTFS drives but when i try and acsess them it says i dont have presmssion to use them any ideas ?09:45
n3stormmatt-w: let me say it in another way.09:45
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_jasonubotu: tell piyo about terminal09:45
matth-wALright09:45
Seveaskbrooks, at your service 09:45
n3stormmatt-w: would you please explain what do you expect from camorama to say?09:45
kbrooksSeveas: heh09:45
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apokryphosSeveas: did you ban him before in +1? He didn't really do anything bad in here.09:45
matth-wWell, I expect it to run and access my webcam from my USB port.09:45
crimsunapokryphos: the entire mask is banned; he's not singled out09:45
matth-wIt's either not reading my USB or not able to run the cam09:45
piyoI am really new here :D09:45
Seveasapokryphos, have to check09:45
crimsunban *!*@*ool-*.dyn.optonline.net  <--09:46
apokryphoscrimsun: yup, but was wondering if it was him it was aimed at earlier.09:46
martyni have mounted 2 NTFS drives but when i try and acsess them it says i dont have presmssion to use them any ideas ?09:46
Seveashobbsee banned a complete provider 09:46
kbrooksSeveas: maybe unban him please and let him get back in09:46
n3stormmatth-w: ok, we are getting somewhre09:46
ralphthe programs i'm having problems running are opera web browser and a game called cube09:46
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Jowin3storm: if there is an upgrade for it you might want to try it. but beware, some router upgrades I've tried  fail. especially true for DLink stuff09:46
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Jimmey__martyn, gksudo nautilus09:46
Jimmey__!sudo09:46
kbrooksSeveas: he09:46
ubotusudo is, like, totally, a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.09:46
kbrookser'09:46
kbrooksSeveas: he's innocent09:46
Seveasshe most likely had a reason for it09:46
n3stormJowi: router is on rent, I would ask the company to change it09:47
ralphsudo.....that sounds familliar09:47
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apokryphosI think I'll lift the ban from +1 for now and see how it goes09:47
Seveasapokryphos, please don't09:47
n3stormmatth-w: can you do "ls /dev/usb"?09:47
martynJimmey__: ok doen that09:47
NrbelexHi, I'm trying to use !easyubuntu but whenever I get to the 3rd step. "gksudo python easyubuntu/trunk/easyubuntu.py", I get a can't open, no such file error.09:47
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n3stormand tell me what does it says?09:47
n3stormon a terminal09:47
kbrooksNrbelex: #easyubuntu09:47
Seveasthe ban is only 2 days old and hobbsee doesn't ban a complete provider without reason09:47
matth-wno such file or directory09:47
Nrbelexthanks09:47
kbrooksNrbelex: i'm in there09:47
martynJimmey__: what now my home folder has open09:48
apokryphosSeveas: re-initiating it is never hard :)09:48
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BlissexSeveas: there was some annoying spammer changing addresses...09:48
Jimmey__martyn, move to where the NTFS drives are mounted, you should have permission to access ( read )09:48
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apokryphosBlissex: genuine spammer or bot attack?09:48
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Blissexapokryphos: bot probably...09:49
martynJimmey__: yeah but i want to have acsees from my desktop. it will let rout have acsess but not my log on09:49
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Jimmey__martyn, then in the terminal try chown NTFSfoldername usergroup:username09:50
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martynJimmey__:? lol09:51
Jimmey__My group's James, and my username's james, so I'd put chown /home/james/Desktop/NTFS/ james:james09:51
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SirKillalothow can tar show me the content of a archive?09:51
_jasonSirKillalot: -l I think, check man tar09:51
apokryphos-t09:52
gnomefreakSirKillalot: fileroller iirc can show you09:52
apokryphosSirKillalot: man tar :)09:52
_jasonSirKillalot: yeah -t, it's --list :)09:52
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n3stormmatth-w: what does "lsusb" command say?09:52
erUSULmy num lock key does not work, have anybody a clue of what can be happening?09:52
Der_RichterWhy won't this work... All i need is to become root for a while... In KDE. In slack i could just log in as root/superuser for that task.09:52
Der_RichterWon't work here09:52
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Random_Transithey...i just downloaded the install CD for the latest dapper beta...and I was wondering, firsty, how stable is this beta, secondly...can i use the install cd to upgrade from Breezy without touching any of my current settings?09:52
matth-wBus 001 Device 003: ID 0545:8080 Xirlink, Inc. IBM C-It WebCam09:52
matth-wIt see's the cam.09:52
_jasonDer_Richter: what are you trying to do?09:53
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kbrooksRandom_Transit: the beta may or may not be stable09:53
kbrooksDer_Richter: sudo -i09:53
thorreis there a tool in ubuntu that helps you choose your local ubuntu mirror09:53
apokryphosthorre: where are you located?09:53
kbrooksthorre: not really09:53
n3stormmatth-w: where does it see it?09:53
thorreim in sweden09:53
SirKillalotis there a possibility to recover just deleted files on ext3 partitions?09:54
sfarhow do i run this file "arcfour-client-tcp: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped" ?09:54
Random_Transitalso, is GNOME 2.14 available in the Breezy repos yet?09:54
Der_Richterkbrooks: In a console... But will that affect the system in general or only the actual console? I'm trying to get this sudo-stuff :)09:54
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matth-wn3storm, it's not giving me a dir it see's it from09:54
Jimmey__SirKillalot, if you deleted them as root, they may still be in /root/.trash09:54
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tux_hello every body09:54
n3stormmatth-w: but it will give a usb address09:54
hartzHello, please someone tell me how to change the X-windows window manager port size.  Where do you adjust this - I am using Enlightenment09:55
zP-Osamawow lotta ppl in here today09:55
apokryphosthorre: prefix your archive.ubuntu.com repositories with "se."09:55
matth-wWell 003 is the device the cam is plugged into.09:55
erUSULmy num lock key does not work, have anybody a clue of what can be happening?09:55
thorreapokryphos: ok,09:55
thorreapokryphos: thanks09:55
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JoetheoddI'm pretty bored, so I was wondering if anyone knew where to get a brainfuck interpreter?09:57
zP-Osamaa wha?09:57
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jeff_hannerUSUL:is it working under other OS?09:57
JoetheoddBrainfuck, it's a programming language.09:57
zP-Osamao lol09:57
tux_I have some problems with my Ubuntu 5.10 this dist. doesn't support my bulit-in sound card chipest although being known " Intel HD " ?09:58
_jasonJoetheodd: bf09:58
_jason!info bf09:58
ubotubf: (a fast Brainfuck interpreter), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 20041219 (breezy), Packaged size: 13 kB, Installed size: 100 kB09:58
meffi am a debian sid user and considering moving to ubuntu, though the 6 month release cycle kinda worries me.. i want to keep up to date, newest kernels, packages, etc.. with sid, this is fairly easy and the new pkgs that come into sid are usually pretty stable.. how is it using the unstable tree for ubuntu? im just worried that it may be much more unstable than sid09:58
Joetheoddhaha sweet09:58
zP-Osamahas anyone successfully dist-upgraded to dapper?09:58
_jasonzP-Osama: plenty of people09:58
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matth-wn3storm, I have to head out for a bit, thanks for the help though, I'll be back if you're still willing to help. Thanks again09:58
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n3stormbyby matth-w09:59
zP-Osama_jason: i tried it and let it go overnight nd when i came back next morning i had a black screen :(09:59
_jasonzP-Osama: yeah, you should stick around during it09:59
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_jasonzP-Osama: try #ubuntu+1 for help09:59
tux_I have some problems with my Ubuntu 5.10 this dist. doesn't support my bulit-in sound card chipest although being known " Intel HD " ?10:00
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zP-Osama_jason: thx10:00
PhoenixP3Kcan someone please tell me what is the name of the Terminal Server Client ?10:00
erUSULjeff_hann: it's been ages since i last run windows but it worked on breezy (i'm in dapper) in the forums i've see people with the same problem. maybe the next xorg update will bring light to me ;)10:00
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graftTerminal Server?10:00
jeff_hannmost prolly a bug10:01
tux_I have some problems with my Ubuntu 5.10 this dist. doesn't support my bulit-in sound card chipest although being known " Intel HD " ? CAN ANY ONE HELP ME10:01
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Guest257018how to to change my nickname in xchat ?10:01
jeff_hanncheck the lists/forums10:01
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asfaritalexceptions.TypeError: len() of unsized object10:01
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|lostbyte|guerby: /nick name10:01
PhoenixP3Kis it tscleint ?10:01
|lostbyte|Bidoh: ^10:01
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Bidoh|lostbyte|,  ?10:01
|lostbyte|ops !10:01
|lostbyte|:)10:01
PhoenixP3KSee I need some help with TSCLIENT10:01
Bidoh=D10:02
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Der_RichterWhat in the name of... Is it supposed to be impossible to run a KDE-program as root user... To access the make commands from within that software!? I'm going insane... Webmin won't let me apt, from within the software either. Damn.10:02
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Der_RichterI don't want to unlock the root account either. I want to keep sudo. It works good.10:02
blindxWhy am I getting this error when trying to sync with my ipod on gtkpod: "Opening of '/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' for writing failed.10:03
blindx"10:03
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Bidohi need one good sources.list10:03
Bidohpls10:03
_jason!sources10:03
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource10:03
Jimmey__blindx, are you using sudi?10:03
Jimmey__*sudo10:03
tux_I forot the root password in Ubuntu 5.10 , how can i restor it ?10:03
blindx..no.10:03
meffso, any long-time debian sid users here that have done the switch? i am wondering how usable ubuntu's unstable tree is for mostly desktop usage.. w/ sid its a pretty good experience with only a few probs here and there10:03
blindxdammit >.<10:03
_jasonubotu: tell tux_ about root10:03
Jimmey__blindx, try that..10:03
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tux_:(10:04
pingwinghey10:05
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pingwingI need help with dial-up on Ubuntu10:05
rhalffhow to reconfigure locales ? it used to be  'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales' at least on debian, now that command only regenerates the locales, without an option to select more locales10:05
_jasontux_: why the sad face?10:05
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pingwinganybody hear me?10:06
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graftpingwing: no... but i can see what you typed10:06
blindxJimmey__, same error.10:06
tux_this the 1st time to me to use this dist and i have a lot of problem like useing the root  account  and this dist. doesn't support my bulit-in sound card chipest although being known " Intel HD10:07
pingwinggraft: rude bwoy help me set up PPP no?10:07
falcon3i have ubuntu with kde installed, how do i use Karamba, or should i use superkaramba? how do i get it to automatically load and display the modules when i start kde?10:07
Der_RichterWhy on earth will this not work? Will i really have to enable the root account!?10:07
pingwingmi deh yah a dead fi help10:07
pingwinganyway10:07
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deluxei installed dapper drake flight 6 amd64 on my shuttle st20g5 and allowed it to update now i have no tg3 module for eth0 how can i get this back (i am on my laptop in front of my desktop)10:07
pingwingmy name 'pingwing'  my daughter gave it to me10:07
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blindxWhy am I getting this error when trying to sync with my ipod on gtkpod: "Opening of '/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' for writing failed."10:07
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graftpingwing: dunno much about ppp...10:07
newbuntiewhy is xchat removed when upgrading to dapper?10:08
pingwinggraft: that's sucks :(10:08
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graftpingwing: what's your issue exactly?10:08
cappiz(FTPRush1.0.0.589)-(ThreadPoolRunningfor)->4days00:31.)-(Pool)->3,)-(Hits)->768.)-(Created)->100,)-(Released)->9710:08
cappiz(TotalContainers)->23)-(Connected)->0)-(Transfering)->0)-(CurrentlyDownloaded)->4861MB)-(Uploaded)->2360MB)-(FXPed)->4942MB10:08
cappizops10:08
Apostle^blindx: is the ipod mounted in /media/ipod ?10:08
blindxyes. i can read it just fine.10:08
Apostle^blindx: try running gtkpod with gksu10:08
blindxit is.10:08
Apostle^hmm.. weird10:09
pingwinggraft: I wanna install PPP so I can use it to dial-up10:09
Apostle^try changing /media/ipod to 77710:09
Apostle^and chown it to you10:09
blindxActually, it's running with gksudo, does that matter?10:09
Apostle^thats fine10:09
graftpingwing: so... install ppp...10:09
pingwinggraft: thanks for nothing dude10:09
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pingwingI'm out10:09
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Apostle^blindx: if you want to do away with the itunesDB alltogether you could install rockbox10:09
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blindx"chmod: changing permissions of `/media/ipod': Read-only file system"10:10
blindxuh..10:10
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blindxthat's probably my problem10:10
graftpingwing: i mean, you can just do it easily: 'sudo apt-get install ppp'10:10
pingwingI'm out anyway10:10
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pingwingpeac10:10
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Apostle^blindx: yea10:10
blindxwtf. read only?10:10
blindxhow do i make it UN readonly :[10:10
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blindxlol that makes no sense, but you know what i mean :P10:10
christian1832hay guys, i just converted my comp to ubuntu, and im thinking i dont have the right driver for my video card, because video plays really choppy10:11
Jimmey__.pingwing, pppeoconf10:11
Jimmey__In the terminal10:11
christian1832and my screensaver is choppy as well10:11
graftchristian1832: what's your video card?10:11
christian1832i dont know10:11
deluxelol10:11
christian1832is there an easy way to find out?10:11
christian1832i know10:11
graftum. type lspci10:11
christian1832ok10:11
Stratohow can i install drivers for my wheel?10:11
graftand look for a line like 'VGA Compatible controller'10:11
christian1832yea10:11
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christian1832nvidianv3410:12
christian1832nvidia nv3410:12
blindxApostle^, any clue why it is Read only, and how to change that? :\10:12
graftah... well then you should install the nvidia drivers10:12
christian1832GeForce FX 520010:12
Apostle^blindx: whats your fstab line look like10:12
Apostle^blindx: pastebin it10:12
graftlessee...10:12
christian1832so i go to nvidia's website10:12
blindx!nvidia10:12
ubotuwell, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736810:12
graftyeah there we go10:12
graftthankee blindx10:12
christian1832cool10:12
blindxlol no prob10:12
christian1832thanks guys10:12
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gnomefreakchristian1832: no just apt-get install10:13
blindxapostle... where's that :x10:13
christian1832oh really./10:13
Erika10:13
Apostle^blindx: sudo gedit /etc/fstab10:13
gnomefreakchristian1832: you on breezy?10:13
christian1832apt-get install what?10:13
christian1832gnomefreak: yes10:13
gnomefreakchristian1832: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings nvidia=glx10:13
graftchristian1832: just read that BinaryDriverHowto thing10:13
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christian1832wow, thanks man10:13
gnomefreaknvidia-glx10:13
christian1832k10:14
blindxhttp://pastebin.com/67571110:14
Erikahi10:14
gnomefreakchristian1832: read the wiki there are 2 more steps give or take10:14
kingspawnblindx: could try mount -o remount rw /media/ipod10:14
kingspawnblindx: thats just for the current session, though10:14
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christian1832ok, the link that i was given earlier?10:14
blindxkingspawn: well that would be fine, i don't plug it in every day10:14
Erika10:14
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Erikaciao10:15
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HeManAnyone using an ATI graphic adapter?10:15
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{BiK}thriftanyone know how to restore the font settings for a user to the ubuntu defaults?10:15
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klaxiani can't print to the upper tray (4x6) for my printer, HP Photosmart 7760 even when I choose the "upper tray" option.  any ideas?10:16
graftHeMan: me10:16
newbuntieheman I am10:16
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graftseems like it's either nvidia or ati these days for most people10:16
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HeManI try to add Option "NoDDC" but in the log it just says: Option "noddc" is not used10:16
HeManany ideas?10:16
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{BiK}thriftklaxian: make sure you are using the proper ppd file10:17
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graftum. nope. dunno what DDC is10:17
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gibbsterHi. for dual-booting between ubuntu and windows, is the windows (xp) boot loader or grub preferred?10:17
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klaxian{BiK}thrift: i will, but i don't see where to choose that...in gnome-cups-manager, the printer adds fine10:17
kaurI should be talking in ubuntu+1 but maybe someone can help...10:17
newbuntieheman: no idea, btw, is there any man page or other help on xorg.conf settings?10:18
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HeManDDC is the "auto-monitor-probe"10:18
klaxian{BiK}thrift: using hpijs driver10:18
JDahlgibbster, grub.  Does Windows even provide a boot manager?10:18
kauri can access a cd only manualy when going to /media/cdrom010:18
kaurflashdisk is not detected at all10:18
newbuntieheman: isn't it probing your monitor by default?10:18
gibbsterJDahl: yeah, at least windows 2000/xp does.10:18
gleesondso my ubuntu box has all my mp3/ogg files and its hooked up to my stereo, I want to be able to manage playlists and volume over my local network like from my laptop. any one know of any good programs that can help me do this?10:18
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graftah... you don't like it why?10:18
kaurhow can i fix this?10:18
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|lostbyte|gibbster: anyone.. depends on your needs..10:18
{BiK}thriftklaxian: you go to the print preferences, driver, install driver, and pick the right ppd file10:18
jinhohello, what do you guys use to open pdfs?10:19
{BiK}thriftthe ppd file defines things like trays10:19
Jimmey__evince10:19
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kauracrobat reader10:19
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klaxian{BiK}thrift: cool, thanks for the help10:19
jinhoon linux?10:19
gibbsterlostbyte: my needs are to be able to boot between windows and ubuntu ;-)10:19
kaurlinux version10:19
HeMannewbuntie: yes, but i don't want it to not do that since i have a VGA-to-SCART-adapter10:19
gymsmokehey, all ...10:19
|lostbyte|jinho: kpdf10:19
{BiK}thriftklaxian: np10:19
gymsmokejust completed setting up qmail/vpop on my ubuntu server10:19
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gymsmokefollowed the guide from qmail rocks10:19
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klaxian{BiK}thrift: what directory contains PPD files?  /usr/share/something...?10:19
jinho|lostbyte|: is that for kde only? or can I use it on xubuntu too?10:19
gymsmokenow, apt-get is broke ...10:19
kauri think so10:20
JinkgunsWhy is my Cd-RW/Dvd-rom drive listing a dvd as a cd-rom? It also can't open it, I installed the css decoder package. :/10:20
JDahlgibbster, I think you're much better of by installing grub, since Ubuntu updates it whenever you install a newer kernel10:20
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{BiK}thriftklaxian: dunno lemme look10:20
|lostbyte|jinho: not sure, i am on kde. give it a try. if it askes for kde then say no and tell me :)10:20
gibbsterJDahl: yeah. Ok, thanks!10:20
kingspawngymsmoke: what does apt-get say?10:20
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kaurJinkguns, van u mount flashdisk?10:20
jinho|lostbyte|: kk10:20
klaxian{BiK}thrift: /usr/share/ppd has some10:20
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kaurcan*10:20
gymsmokekingspawn: every apt-get operation ends with "...unmet dependencies" try apt-get -f install with no packages (or specify a solution)10:20
{BiK}thriftklaxian: /usr/share/cups/model/gutenprint/5.0/en/10:20
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Jinkgunskaur, I don't know how to do that.10:21
klaxiank10:21
gymsmokekingspawn: it's complaining about exim, maildrop, and postfix10:21
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kingspawngymsmoke: and when you try apt-get -f install?10:21
kaurdo u have an usb flashdisk?10:21
Jinkgunsno10:21
kaurthen u can't try that10:21
blindxOkay, after remounting my ipod as read/write and chmodding /media/ipod to 777, I'm still getting "Opening of '/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' for writing failed."10:21
newbuntieheman: where are you using the nodcc option, in xorg.config?10:21
gymsmokekingspawn: i don't want to install postfix and exim...10:21
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kauri am having a problem with removable media too10:21
gymsmokekingspawn: it took me 2 days to get this setup right, and i don't want to break it10:21
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kaurare u using dapper?10:22
HeMannewbuntie: in the Device-section for the card10:22
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paxuse apt-get -f wisely, it's really rape, don't abuse it :-)10:22
{BiK}thriftklaxian: /usr/share/cups/model/gutenprint/5.0/en/10:22
Jinkgunsyes kaur10:22
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klaxian{BiK}thrift: my printer wasn't there, but i think i found it in /usr/share/ppd/hplip/10:22
gymsmokekingspawn: i haven't found any info yet on what "apt-get -f install" without arguments will do10:22
Jinkgunsbut it didn't work in Hoary either10:22
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kaurthen it is dapper's fault...10:22
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{BiK}thriftklaxian: ok, i don't know anything about your printer, just what you need to change :)10:22
klaxian{BiK}thrift: cool, i think i can take it from here :)  you've been very helpful thanks!10:22
kauri've been searching for a solution all day10:23
Jinkgunsit DIDNT work in hoary10:23
Jinkguns;)10:23
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kaurit worked10:23
jinho|lostbyte|: it loads perfectly, thanks!10:23
kingspawngymsmoke: well, the problem might be that you have other packages installed that depend on those packages10:23
kaurafter modifications10:23
|lostbyte|jinho: ;)10:23
kingspawngymsmoke: and apt-get takes real exception to that10:23
xtofhi, I used to middle clic (paste) in the middle of an opened page in firefox to open a link, and it doesn't work now. I have to empty the url box, and paste in it... Any ideas?10:23
HeMani also would like to use Option "igoreEDID" "no" as well and it does the same as noddc10:23
JinkgunsI'm probably just going to load window home on this laptop, the wireless and dvd play are too much trouble.10:23
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luciaeHi. each time I start my computer, I have to reconfigure my network. when I put: route add 127.0.0.1 it answers SIOCADDRT: No such device10:23
newbuntieheman: hm..sorry, can't help you, I can't even find the man page for xorg.conf :) for some reason it isn't distributed with ubuntu10:24
bur[n] erJinkguns: don't do it! ;)10:24
JinkgunsI'm going to start saving up for a System 76 laptop. (ubuntu installed)10:24
gymsmokekingspawn: i'll pastebin the output (don't want to flood the channel)10:24
kingspawngymsmoke: k10:24
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anymohello10:24
kaurwireless shouldn't be hard under dapper10:24
falcon3how do i install fonts?10:24
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anymoI need some help with getting fluxbox to work10:24
Jinkgunskaur, it's a BROADCOM 4306, the horror. :)10:24
blindx!fonts10:24
ubotu[fonts]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto10:24
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falcon3ty10:24
blindxOkay, after remounting my ipod as read/write and chmodding /media/ipod to 777, I'm still getting "Opening of '/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' for writing failed."10:25
Erikaciao10:25
helge_Is this channel for Kubuntu?10:25
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anymoafter I install it, and run it from session chooser in GDM it runs quite ok, but there is nothing in menu10:25
kkathmanhelge_:  no #kubuntu would be10:25
Apostle^helge_: #kubuntu10:25
SmirnoffCan anyone help me try to get into my "su" account on Ubuntu?10:25
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snow_hi10:25
blindx!root10:25
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.10:25
Apostle^Smirnoff: sudo su10:25
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kkathmanSmirnoff:  check out the wiki10:25
anymothere is only xterm of apps.. how do I get that menu to be usefull, to contain all my apps?10:25
mramSmirnoff, nice nickname, but have you tried sudo10:26
kingspawnblindx: well, eh, what kind of filesystem has an ipod got on it?10:26
snow_any one can recommend an Ubuntu book that is freely to be download on the internet ?10:26
SmirnoffJust did thanks guys!10:26
kingspawnsnow_: i suggest starting at hhelp.ubuntu.com10:26
kingspawnsnow_: help.ubuntu.com that is10:26
blindxkingspawn, nevermind, i just tried to make a test directory in /media/ipod got an error, still a read-only filesystem10:26
blindx:|10:26
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Otacon22how can i play a .mid on ubuntu? i have try the midi player on shell donwloaded with apt, but it output an error:10:26
Otacon22open /dev/sequencer: No such file or directory10:26
kingspawnblindx: when you just type mount, what info do you get on the ipod?10:26
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Otacon22how can i fix it?10:26
mramsnow_ what is it that you need to know?10:26
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Smirnoffkkathman: What did you mean by wiki?10:27
blindxkingspawn, /dev/sdc2 on /media/ipod type vfat (rw)10:27
Xaero_VincentKubuntu has been much improved for Dapper Drake Beta... its upto par with Ubuntu... now they just need shipit CDs10:27
|lostbyte|Otacon22: try "play"10:27
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gymsmokekingspawn: http://pastebin.com/67574510:27
kkathmanXaero_Vincent: not even close10:27
Otacon22|lostbyte| i haven't tha command, but io have alsa play10:28
kingspawnblindx: well, its mounted read/write, so thats not the problem any more. when you ls -l inside /media/ipod, i guess it says ownership is root:root?10:28
Xaero_Vincentyes it is10:28
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kkathmanno it isnt10:28
kkathmantrust me10:28
Otacon22otacon22@ota:~/Desktop$ alsaplayer SONG047.MID10:28
psycosehi10:28
Otacon22Nothing to play.10:28
treke|homeDoes gnome have a mime type editor available anywhere? I could have sworn there was one back in the 2.4.10 days, but I can't figure out what it was called.10:28
Xaero_Vincentthe wiki isnt.. the OS yes10:28
kkathmanno it isnt...10:28
kkathmanplease dont speak of that which you dont know :)10:28
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blindxkingspawn, where would it say that? sorry, im still kinda new x.x10:28
kingspawngymsmoke: i'd try apt-get -f remove, but if things go haywire i take no resposibility :)10:29
Otacon22i must install the sequencet, but i don't know how i can do it10:29
kkathmanubuntu is far more stable and has fewer bugs than kubuntu does right now10:29
amandahhow come Ubuntu doesn't understahd the make command?10:29
Otacon22*sequencer10:29
|lostbyte|treke|home: mime type editor for what ? why would you want to edit ..10:29
Bidohneed one good sources.list10:29
blindx!tell Bidoh about sources10:29
kingspawnblindx: i says something like drrx.... root root 123123123 Bla bla10:29
gymsmokekingspawn: that's ok ... i'm not looking to hang this on somebody, just some direction10:29
psycosemy system load a module for my wifi carc named rt61, well thing is i don't want it todo so ... how can i tell my system not to load this module ? thanks i'm on  Badger ...10:29
mramyou can use ubuntu and just apt-get kde right?10:29
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kingspawngymsmoke: i think apt-get -f remove REMOVES the packages that are causing trouble10:29
Bidoh!tell sources.list10:29
blindxdrwx------  6 blind blind 4096 2006-03-20 23:57 iPod_Control10:29
|lostbyte|amandah: then i think the source yourtrying to make does'nt have make. or you got to ./configure first.10:29
kingspawngymsmoke: atleast thats what the man page seems to indicate10:30
treke|home|lostbyte|: To change which applications take precedence when opening a certain type10:30
blindxI chmodded it to 777.10:30
|lostbyte|treke|home: are you on kde ?10:30
kkathmanmram:  install kubuntu-desktop  not kde10:30
treke|homeGnome10:30
gymsmokekingspawn: do you know if mailx is really needed if i have qmail/vpopmail running ?  if not, then there shouldn't be any harm in apt-get -f remove ...10:30
Xaero_Vincentthat isnt the case with Dapper though.. its buggier because of KDE... infact Kubuntu is far better because KDE is better10:30
amandahI wrote a make file for some java files10:30
kingspawngymsmoke: i dont think it is needed, no10:30
treke|homeHTML files open up in firefox, and I'm not a big firefox fan. :)10:30
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kingspawnblindx: well, chmod doesnt do much on a vfat-system10:30
kingspawnblindx: two secs10:30
foureight84what's the channel for dapper and xgl?10:30
blindxoh :|10:30
|lostbyte|treke|home: ahh :( .. on kde its simply the kcontrol..10:31
mramkkathman: so there is a difference between those two...hmm thanks, but for me I am gnome fan so i am fine with Ubuntu. :-)10:31
_jasonubotu: tell treke|home about defaultapp10:31
treke|homeYeah, I know how to do it in kde.10:31
Apostle^gymsmoke: mailx can be removed whenever10:31
kkathmanXaero_Vincent:  no KDE is not the thing that is buggy... I run SUSE with KDE and its flawless, again..please dont talk of things you dont know about10:31
blindxtreke|home, what browser do you use?10:31
treke|home_jason: That doesn't seem to do it in this case10:31
foureight84Apostle^, hey wassup10:31
_jasontreke|home: really?10:31
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Apostle^foureight84: hi10:31
hartzCan anybody recommend a good package for stitching photos, ie to create panoramas?10:31
foureight84Apostle^, I fixed that error with my ipw220010:31
gymsmokekingspawn: i didn't think so, but the forums are littered with people who "don't know of what they speak", and I've always had better (more knowledgeable) input here on the channels10:31
kingspawnblindx: mount -o user auto fmask=0111 dmask=0000 remount rw /media/ipod   (try that... :)10:31
_jasontreke|home: does gnome just ignore it?10:31
Apostle^hartz: the gimp ?10:31
Apostle^foureight84: congrats man. sorry about that guy yesterday10:32
foureight84Apostle^, no thanks to that kbrook fellow yesterday10:32
Apostle^yea10:32
Apostle^lol10:32
kingspawnblindx: eh, remove the "auto"10:32
kkathmanKubuntu is a distinct fork from KDE...lots of different other things that ARENT KDE10:32
gymsmokeApostle^: it that's true, then apt-get -f remove should resolve this...10:32
Apostle^gymsmoke: whats the error?10:32
treke|homeEpiphany is selected in it, and it uses epiphany for everything it needs a web browser for, except viewing an html file on the hard drive10:32
hartzGimp!?10:32
foureight84Apostle^, no problem10:32
gymsmokeApostle^: http://pastebin.com/67574510:32
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hartzApostle^,  Does it ahve some kind of plugin to do stiching?10:32
blindxkingspawn, syntax error? (even after taking out auto)10:32
treke|home_jason: oh, you're not talking about the preferred application dialog10:32
_jasontreke|home: you right clicked and went to properties > open with?10:32
Xaero_Vincentits not a fork.. it uses the Ubuntu base.. K 5.10 had problems because KDE was updated last minute10:32
foureight84Apostle^, what's the channel for dapper and xgl?10:32
blindxit reads out all the possible commands to use with mount10:33
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Xaero_Vincent6.06 is far better10:33
kingspawnblindx: hm, try comma separating them10:33
Apostle^foureight84: #ubuntu-xgl10:33
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Apostle^and ubuntu+110:33
blindxseparating "them" ?10:33
mramany suggestions on how to get gaim2.0 beta on ubuntu?10:33
kingspawnblind -o option,option,option10:33
Apostle^mram: compile from soure10:33
kkathmanXaero_Vincent:  KDE isnt the problem, you'd know that if you ran another distro10:33
foureight84Apostle^, thanks10:33
Apostle^yea kde runs like crap on dapper10:33
blindxstill no good, kingspawn10:33
Apostle^but i hear dapper causes it.10:33
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mramApostle^: was afraid of that...oh well i shall try that, thanks.10:34
treke|home_jason: That's exactly what I'm looking for. Was confused since it used to be a very different interface. Thanks10:34
slewhi. is there a linux program that burns .bin / .cue files?"10:34
blindxhey treke|home.. what browser do you use?10:34
kingspawnblindx: whaa? eh, did you go "remount,rw" now?10:34
Xaero_VincentI read a review that states that KDE on Dapper is the fastest the reviewer has ever experienced10:34
Apostle^slew: gnome-baker10:34
treke|homeblindx: Epiphany10:34
gymsmokeApostle^: it seems that mailx is really at the root of that pastebin error, so removing it could fix this...10:34
dannymslew: cdrdao, I think10:34
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blindxkingspawn, no, "remount, rw" ..take out the space?10:34
Apostle^gymsmoke: k10:34
Apostle^gymsmoke: let me check it out10:34
ploomhartz, there is hugin10:34
kingspawnblindx: take out the comma :) that one needs an argument, the "rw"10:35
slewApostle^, i tired that one, it says it cant find the .bin file, even though they are in the same folder10:35
kingspawnblindx: :)10:35
gymsmokeApostle^: ok10:35
amandah|lostbyte|: I'm new to linux, was reading the Ubuntu wiki and I'm confused about what./configure does.  But in any case I'm not compiling someone else's source: I'm trying to compile my code from a Makefile I wrote and the terminal complains that bash doesn't recognize "make" as a command10:35
Apostle^slew: k3b10:35
ploomhartz, and yes, Gimp does have some plugin: http://stitchpanorama.sourceforge.net/10:35
_jasonamandah: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'10:35
kingspawnamandah: sudo apt-get install build-essential10:35
blindxkingspawn, lol still no good.10:35
Apostle^gymsmoke: go ahead and remove it10:35
kingspawnblindx: come on man! hehe. give me your whole line as you typed it10:35
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blindxsudo mount -o user, fmask=0111, dmask=0000, remount rw /media/ipod10:35
gymsmokeApostle^,kingspawn: thanks ...10:36
treke|homeblindx: Same rendering engine as Firefox, but with a more comfortable ui. At least in my opinion10:36
|lostbyte|amandah: do what _jason says..10:36
_jasonblindx: no spaces :P10:36
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kingspawnblindx: no spaces between them10:36
kingspawnblindx: sorry for not telling you10:36
blindxaha worked this time :x10:36
blindxiiiiii'm such a noob rofl10:36
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Apostle^lol10:36
Apostle^it's okay :-p10:36
kingspawnblindx: its all good in the ubuntu hood10:36
blindxnice, ok. making a folder works. let's see if i can sync now :D10:37
Apostle^i run rockbox10:37
Apostle^so i can just drag/drop music10:37
kingspawnblindx: i suggest stuffing that in a script, or making your fstab reflect it10:37
kingspawnApostle^: rockbox is niice10:37
foureight84anyone here running aiglx and compiz on an i91510:37
gymsmokeApostle^: i wonder why mailx is installed at all, since i installed qmail/vpop to handle my mail server, and i'm sure most server admins would rather pick there own10:37
Apostle^kingspawn: it sur i10:37
Apostle^gymsmoke: come,s default10:37
foureight84i get this error message when i run glxgears10:38
foureight84libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b10:38
kingspawnApostle^: I've got a friend thats on the development team, been seeing some cool stuff on the ipod :) like doom, haha10:38
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blindxkingspawn. ok. just.. put that line in? (i'll match the syntax with the other lines, of course)10:38
LadyNikonanyone have problemw with a wireless card?10:38
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Apostle^kingspawn: yea i have doom on my ipod nano10:38
LadyNikonIt was working fine til i had to reinstall ubuntu.10:38
gymsmokeApostle^: imho, it would be better if it didn't10:38
foureight84LadyNikon, ipw2200?10:38
kingspawnblindx: yes, and put in "auto" too10:38
Apostle^gymsmoke: i use gmail :-p10:38
ekahi all10:38
blindxi had doom on my ipod :D ( http://blindx.net/iDoom.jpg ) :P10:38
ralphhello, i'm still having problems running some .sh files from the gui......new install do i need to update something?10:38
gymsmokeApostle^: as a server?10:38
kingspawnApostle^: heh, its unplayable, but its neat :)10:38
LadyNikonfoureight84: D-link10:38
Apostle^kingspawn: so true10:38
LadyNikonDWL-520+10:39
Apostle^gymsmoke: hmm?10:39
jinhoare there any good java ide's out there besides eclipse- eclipse runs slow on my machine for some weird reason10:39
Apostle^kingspawn: i never play it lol10:39
gymsmokeApostle^: this is on Ubuntu server (5.10)10:39
foureight84LadyNikon, hmm awh sorry i don't know10:39
amandah_jason: thanks10:39
LadyNikonk10:39
Apostle^gymsmoke:  i meant i use gmail for my email10:39
gymsmokeApostle^: oops - "mysql-server: Depends: mailx"10:39
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LadyNikonit is detected and even detects the wap10:39
LadyNikonbut no signal10:39
ZarephathNeed some help  understanding/fixing why gnome can't see the shares under Workgroup...I installed smb4k and lo and behold all my shares appear and are accessible...so it must be something I presume in gnome not setup correctly10:39
LadyNikonall other devices worrk fine.10:40
gymsmokeApostle^: oh, i have a gmail account, too , but this is a mailserver on our co-lo company box10:40
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Apostle^gymsmoke: i see10:40
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gymsmokeApostle^: do you know why mysql-server would have a dependency on mailx ?10:40
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Apostle^gymsmoke: nope :\10:41
blindxI'm gonna restart, brb10:41
gymsmokeApostle^: it does, according to apt-get10:41
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kingspawngymsmoke: I hate all those insane dependencies10:41
gymsmokekingspawn: me, too... i'm trying to clean up the server a bit, so i can get the other packages i need installed, and this has really slowed me up10:41
Apostle^gymsmoke: try using synaptic and reinstalling mialx10:42
sfarHmm.. my file browser (nautilus?) hangs when i start it.. and when i Force Quit it just restarts and is still not working.. where to begin? what to do?10:42
gymsmokeApostle^: it's a server - no gui ...10:42
Apostle^ahhh..10:42
Apostle^pity10:42
jinhodoes anyone have a java ide to recommend besides Eclipse?10:42
gymsmokeApostle^: i'm much more comfortable on the command line anyway...10:42
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kingspawngymsmoke: hm, well, you should be able to atleast turn off all those things for a while, if you install them to meet the deps10:43
kingspawngymsmoke: and then proceed with trying to figure out how the deps are set up10:43
kingspawnheh10:43
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ekaso i installed all the required modules to use NVIDIA driver and did what is asked to , and nothing happened10:43
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jinho...anyone?10:43
jinhodoes no one program in java...?10:44
gymsmokekingspawn: if i install mailx, exim, and postfix, they won't interfere with my qmail/vpopmail setup? -- or the dns setup i already have running?10:44
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tuckjebbl10:44
kingspawngymsmoke: only the Holy Creator can answer :)10:44
_jasonjinho: lots of guys in #java might know10:44
tuckjebut please respond?10:44
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gymsmokekingspawn: haha10:44
ekajinho, eclipse is the best10:44
ekajinho,  i do10:44
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jinhoeka: i like it too...but its slow10:44
kcbannerI am trying to upload 2000 files to a webserver, there all small files...its going really slow because of the amount of files is there a way to speed it up?10:44
jc-dentonis there a gnome feauture to sync directories with other computers?10:45
jc-dentonthere is ifolder10:45
kingspawngymsmoke: kcbanner pack them together first10:45
jinhoeka: I used jcreator on windows and that was nice and quick....but on linux eclipse runs painfully slow for me10:45
jc-dentonbut ubuntu does not have it10:45
ekajinho, depends on your machine, most of them cause are heavy java engines are10:45
kingspawneh sorry10:45
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kingspawnkcbanner: pack them together :)10:45
ekajinho, which machine do you have?10:45
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kcbannerkingspawn: its a webserver, I cant unzip on the server...i have ftp access10:45
JDahlkcbanner, is rsync installed? that's great for things like that10:45
jinhoeka: amd64 3500, 512 mb ram,10:45
luciaeamandah: you have to install the right packages for that10:45
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jinhoeka: 20 gb partiton for xubuntu10:45
kcbanneri dont have a shell account on the server10:46
kingspawnkcbanner: then you're in for a long upload :)10:46
gymsmokekingspawn: wait... what about installing the mta dummy and then installing qmail again with checkinstall?10:46
kingspawngymsmoke: hm, that just might work10:46
kingspawngymsmoke: sounds like the best idea so far10:46
kcbannerkingspawn: I suppose I could install net2ftp and connect to localhost...but I think I'l ust wait10:46
kcbanner350/2700 :(10:46
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ekajinho, are you running amd64 kernel?10:46
jinhoeka: no, i38610:46
ekadont know why your going slow10:47
ekajinho, why using i386??10:47
gymsmokekingspawn: yeah, that might work out, since then apt will be happy, and i'll be happy, and the whole world will be a slightly happier place ...10:47
jinhoeka: cuz i heard a lot of bad things about amd64 kernel10:47
ekajinho, try i68610:47
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kingspawngymsmoke: do it for the sake of the world!10:47
gymsmokekingspawn: it's one small step for me, one gian leap out into the ether!10:48
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kingspawnhehe10:48
jinhoeka: oh, I did upgrade to i686 i believe10:48
apikorosi'm trying to convert my (generally computer-apt) dad into linux.. he has a laptop with wifi. it's nothing mission-critical, but should be reasonable stable.. should i install hoary or dapper beta?10:48
bimberituckje: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7676110:48
jinhoeka: but is there any way to make sure?10:48
dtsdoes anyone know how to compress images to a certain file size rather than a certain size in image magick10:49
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gymsmokekingspawn: i'm getting the mta dummy pkg first, to see if this calms apt down10:49
kingspawnapikoros: dapper beta10:49
kingspawngymsmoke: yeah10:49
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brunosinitrohow do i congfigure modem speedstream 5200 usb?10:50
apikoroskingspawn, will apt automagically upgrade the packages to the final release once it's out in june?10:50
kingspawnapikoros: yes10:50
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gymsmokekingspawn: voyla! installing the dummy made apt fat, dumb, and happy again10:51
JDahlapikoros, only you run a dist-upgrade10:51
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apikorosJDahl, ah, okay.10:51
kingspawngymsmoke: great!10:51
sfarHm... i might have found a nautilus bug.. but im not sure (im a noob) :)10:51
apikorosthanks kingspawn and JDahl , i'll go download an ISO of dapper now.10:51
kingspawnJDahl: i thought the update manager in dapper beta would just keep on updating10:52
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gravesonwhat can i use to create dvd video10:52
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gymsmokewhat does this mean during apt-get upgrade? - "The following packages have been kept back: inux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386"10:52
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SmirnoffAll my knowledge skillsets are in Win32 OS's. Would anyone be so kind as to show some documentation on Debian commands to learn in terminal? :)10:52
kingspawn!cli10:52
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org10:52
kingspawnSmirnoff: ^^^10:52
gymsmokeSmirnoff: you mean commandline mode?10:53
Bone`super n00b here, wondering how to run a pygame10:53
JDahlkingspawn, major upgrades requires that you do a "apt-get dist-upgrade"... the graphical front-ends to apt might do that automatically, but he did ask what "apt" would do10:53
Bone`as I have NO idea10:53
boolkaIs Ubuntu easy to install?10:53
Seveasgymsmoke, it means you need to do dist-upgrade instead of upgrade10:53
kingspawnJDahl: Ah, i just didnt read closely enough :)10:53
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Smirnoffgymsmoke: Ya command line mode? Btw, how can I just talk to single people like your doing in red, I hate bothering everyone at once.. :)10:53
gymsmokeSeveas: well, i'm not ready for dapper, and i don't think dapper is ready for the rest of the world yet, so i'll let that be...10:54
AurelianHey, i have just downloaded, burned and booted the Ubuntu DVD Iso. is there a way i can install from this, as it boots into a live distro...10:54
Bone`can anybody help me? :( not even sure if my words are getting through10:54
kingspawnBone`: just ask10:54
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Bone`oh heh, did10:55
gymsmokeSmirnoff: check out http://www.tldp.org for starters... or google for "linux commands" ...10:55
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Bone`super noob wondering how to run a .py file10:55
Seveasgymsmoke, dist-upgrade doesn't mean upgrading to dapper.10:55
kingspawnSmirnoff: read the links ubotu displayed10:55
niko_Can anybody download my game and see if there are any problems compiling?10:55
kingspawnniko_: sure10:55
niko_Yay!10:55
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Bone`or atleast direct me to an faq that can answer my stupid question :P10:55
gravesonwhat can i use to create dvd video -anyone10:56
bimberiBone`: 'python file.py'10:56
gymsmokeSeveas: oh, so it's a kernel upgrade within breezy ?10:56
SmirnoffThanks gymsmoke10:56
amandahWhere is the file for me to edit environment variables?  export PATH only changes the path for the current terminal10:56
Bone`haha thanks bim, lets see how I screw up that simple command10:56
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brunosinitrodo you know how to configure usb modem ?10:56
bimberiBone`: np :)10:56
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AurelianHey, i have just downloaded, burned and booted the Ubuntu DVD Iso. is there a way i can install from this, as it boots into a live distro...10:56
gymsmokeSmirnoff: np - you can always "man dd" or any unix command, or ask in here...10:56
kingspawnamandah: /etc/login.defs10:56
Seveasgymsmoke, correct, it is only a kernel upgrade10:57
Aureliani have read the wiki/support also and cannot find anything.10:57
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niko_kingspawn, http://socr.uwindsor.ca/~coutso1/em2.tar But I warn you, it's crashed X on my Dapper install10:57
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kingspawnniko_: you said compile, not execute :)10:58
gymsmokeSeveas: 2.6.12-10 (almost up there with gentoo)... does ubuntu setup a slot for the new kernel similar to gentoo and other distro's ?10:58
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niko_kingspawn, :O I could've sworn I said "run" or something!10:58
Bone`bim you might have to help me from the very beginning here but I swear I'm a quick learner10:58
Seveasgymsmoke, not sure what you mean there10:58
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Bone`I got a few more q's about general installation10:58
Seveasif you mean in the bootloader: definitely10:58
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Smirnoffgymsmoke: so "man" = meaning manual i'm guessing then the command I am wanting a manual about?10:59
gymsmokeSeveas: in gentoo, when you install a new kernel version, it gets 'slotted' in /boot, so that on restart, grub gives you a choice of which kernel you want to boot10:59
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|lostbyte|Smirnoff: yes10:59
kingspawnniko_: heh, well10:59
lumpi#ubuntuusers.de10:59
gnomefreakgymsmoke: yes it updates grub10:59
niko_kingspawn, is that a yes? :D10:59
kingspawnniko_: it does not compile at all :)10:59
Seveaslumpi, don't spam.11:00
kingspawnniko_: I'll pastebin you the output.11:00
niko_Gah! What errors do you get?11:00
niko_Thanks11:00
gymsmokeSmirnoff: yes.  you type man xx, where xx is the command you're interested in.  there's also info xx ...  some dev's prefer the info pages, so if you don't find alot about something in man, try info as well11:00
gymsmokegnomefreak: thanks... i11:00
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gymsmokegnomefreak: ill check the changelog on the kernel update...11:00
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ekahi all11:00
ekaneed help with nvidia drivers11:00
kingspawnniko_: http://pastebin.com/67580511:01
gnomefreakeka: can you give alil mor einfo?11:01
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gnomefreaka little more info even11:01
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niko_kingspawn, you don't have g++-4.0?11:01
ekagnomefreak: i get Failed to initialize NVIDIA kernel module11:01
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kingspawnniko_: 4.0.211:02
ekagnomefreak: i followed instructions from ubuntu web page11:02
gnomefreakeka: did you install the restriced mods?11:02
AurelianHey, i have just downloaded, burned and booted the Ubuntu DVD Iso. is there a way i can install from this, as it boots into a live distro... <-- can anyone help please?11:02
ekagnomefreak: i did11:02
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gnomefreakeka: stock kernel?11:02
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ekagnomefreak: whats that?11:03
niko_kingspawn, can you go to the makefile and change the first line to "CXX=g++-4.0" and try it again?11:03
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gnomefreakeka: what kernel are you using?11:03
kingspawnniko_: same errors11:03
kingspawnniko_: lets take it to #ubuntu-offtopic11:03
eka2.6.12-10-68611:03
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ekagnomefreak: 2.6.12-10-68611:03
Apostle^Aurelian: you need an install cd11:03
gnomefreakeka: did you run through sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?11:04
Smirnoffgymsmoke: Cool, ya I am so use to "command /?" in dos based. I like to learn how this all works before I go breaking it :). Also how do I just talk to you or single users so I don't spam the irc chat?11:04
ekagnomefreak: no why?11:04
ekagnomefreak: should?11:04
ellbiddyAh yes, the helpful hand of IRC...I had a (what I thought would be) simple question, I want to compile the kernel I'm currently using which was an image,  manually, the version is 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8-smp11:04
ellbiddy and the sources aren't in synpatic using the repositories that I have. So I was wondering what the easy solution would be to setup the EXACT same thing, but having it compile manually?11:04
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gnomefreakeka: because you have to (something they left out) you have to make sure your using the right drivers and so on11:05
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ekagnomefreak: i'll try11:05
ekagnomefreak: give me a min11:05
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AurelianApostle^: there is an install directory on the DVD, this is my first attempt to install Ubuntu so i guess the DVD would include more packages. i didnt realise it was only a live CD, website isnt very clear on that...11:05
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fenstahey guys.. will 1.5 partition my drive and leave my windows drive intact?11:06
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Apostle^can you install from the live-dvd .. anyone?11:07
gravesonwhat can i use to create dvd video -anyone11:07
blindxI'm having some trouble getting songs from my computer to my ipod through gtkpod. does anyone have experience with it? it's kinda confusing :\11:07
Apostle^blindx: i do, but i suggest rockbox11:07
bimberiAurelian: There is probably a boot option to go into install mode - hit F1 at the boot prompt.  Hopefully it's documented11:07
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tarvidin a bit of a muddle over php4 php5 and mysql11:07
tarvidearly I installed drupal and wound up with php511:08
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blindxApostle^, what is rockbox? i remember you saying something about the "getting rid of" the itunes db..11:08
tarvidrecently i installed phpmyadmin and wound up with php411:08
tarvidnow things like mysql_connect no longer work11:08
Apostle^blindx: it's a firmware for ipod that allows it to play many more games / view .jpg's play all audio file types and drag+drop audio without using itunes DB11:08
tarvidphp4-mysql is installed11:09
Apostle^blindx: if your interested i can help you install it11:09
Aurelianbimberi: ok il check that11:09
Aurelianthx guys11:09
blindxapostle: will it work with my iPod? I know IPL doesn't without some patching, and even then not to its fullest.11:09
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Apostle^what ipod do you have11:09
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blindxIt's not a video, and it's not a photo. It's a color iPod..11:10
Apostle^blindx: should be fine11:10
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onkeljonasrockbox rocks :)11:10
blindxsure, i'll try it.11:10
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Apostle^blindx: download this http://download.rockbox.org/daily/ipodcolor/rockbox-ipodcolor-20060422.zip11:12
blindxdone.11:12
Apostle^you have aim or msn11:12
blindxboth. which do you prefer? :P11:12
Apostle^can do this faster on their11:12
Apostle^FearTheTrain @ aim11:13
Apostle^is me11:13
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jinhois there a java channel?11:15
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Edisonhi everybody11:16
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gnomefreakjinho: #java11:16
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Edisoni had a problem updating and the message is: Unable to lock the download directory11:16
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Edisonwhat can i do???11:16
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RibsEdison: Check you haven't got synaptic running already11:17
RibsEdison: or anything similar :)11:17
dos000anyone: is it a know bug that espresso will refuse reluctuntly to create a reiserfs partitiion ?11:17
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Edisonbut is synaptic the one which is trying to update a program11:17
RibsEdison: Is it running twice, do you have something else which may be trying to work on your system or install programs?11:18
Edisonnope that i know11:18
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Edisona message appear in my desktop saying that new uppdates were avaliable11:19
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Edisonand i press show updates11:19
RibsEdison: That's not the same as synaptic.11:19
Edisonummmm11:20
Edison???11:20
Ribsmake sure synaptic and friends are closed when you do that11:20
gymsmokegnomefreak: is dist-upgrade new ?11:20
gnomefreakgymsmoke: what do you mean new?11:20
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gnomefreakgymsmoke: its been around as long as apt has afaik11:20
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gnomefreaki know its been around for all ubuntu versions11:21
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gymsmokegnomefreak: that's what i meant, thanks...11:21
gnomefreakyw11:22
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gravesoncan anyone help me please ? what can i use to create dvd video11:23
gymsmokei'm excited - my first ubuntu server install, first nameserver, first mailserver... everything seems to be working so far...11:23
dos000stupid espresso is refusing to create a resiserfs partition !11:23
ompaulgymsmoke, of course it does, its real software :-)11:23
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ompauldos000, u doing dapper?11:23
mrami have a problem with totem player, when i launch it is quickly errors out and closes itself. any suggestions as to why it would do that?11:23
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nookhow do I format my usbstick???11:23
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gnomefreakdos000: #ubuntu+1 for dapper please11:24
dos000yes11:24
Edisonsorry but can u give more info about the updating problem!!!11:24
nookhow do I format my usbstick???11:24
nookhow do I format my usbstick???11:24
Edisoncause im new using ubuntu11:24
gymsmokeompaul: i've been around unix/xenix/linux for alot of years as a developer/tuner/db consultant... now since i own my own companies, i wanted to have my own server...11:24
ompauldos000, as gnomefreak said please join the channel #ubuntu+1 for dapper11:24
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gnomefreakEdison: what is the problems?11:24
EdisonCould not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)11:24
ompaulnook, do not repeat. thanks we will get to you in a moment11:24
nookompaul: ok11:24
nookompaul: ok11:24
gymsmokewoot! 2.6.12-10 ... fresh kernel meat... yum11:24
gnomefreakEdison: open synaptic11:24
gnomefreakEdison: let me know when its open11:25
Edisonit says another synaptic is running11:25
gnomefreakEdison: than close it11:25
Edisonok now is open11:25
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gnomefreakEdison: close all synaptic updater or terminals used to isndtall things11:25
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gnomefreakEdison: if you read the rest of the error it should have said "is another process using it"11:26
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MrRiowhy isnt the linux-686 package automatically installed on my AMD64?11:26
kingspawnnook: what fileformat do you want on it?11:26
gnomefreak686 is not 64bit?11:26
kingspawnnook: and where is it located?11:26
nookkingspawn: fat1611:26
amandahhey, I'm not sure how to edit and save login.defs11:26
nookkingspawn: /dev/sda11:26
gnomefreakjust a thought11:26
MrRiognomefreak: i want 32bit11:26
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kingspawnnook: why not fat32?11:26
gnomefreakMrRio: with the 64bit disk?11:26
MrRiognomefreak, Nope, this is just the normal disc11:27
ompaulnook, from the menu System Administration Disks, Then choose disable then choose format11:27
nookkingspawn: I want to place there installiso. Don't ask why fat1611:27
MrRiognomefreak: its given me linux-36811:27
MrRio386*11:27
gnomefreakMrRio: thats fine11:27
nookompaul: may I do it from console?11:27
kingspawnnook: heh, sorry. do as ompaul instructed11:27
Edisonbut how do i close the one in the background??11:27
kingspawnnook: mkfs.msdos /dev/sda11:27
gnomefreakEdison: is ther ea window for it?11:27
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MrRiognomefreak: So I can just install the 686 package and it will edit grub for me?11:27
Edisoncause a program is still running but dont know how to close it11:27
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ompaulnook, yes but it takes longer11:28
gnomefreakMrRio: edit grub for what?11:28
nookkingspawn: mkfs.msdos: command not found11:28
nookkingspawn: that's all about :[11:28
kingspawneh?11:28
Edisonit says package manager is working11:28
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gnomefreakEdison: than let it work11:28
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MrRiognomefreak: Adding the new 686 kernel to the list11:28
Edisonthat program is downloding???11:28
kingspawnompaul: do you know which package contains mkfs.msdos? I thought it was default. Doesnt ubotu have some sort of searching mechanism for such things?11:29
gnomefreakEdison: its more than likely reading your sources list11:29
Edisonahh ok11:29
gnomefreakMrRio: install the 686 kernel if it doesnt get installed for you11:29
nookkingspawn: it has apt. apt says me it's dosfstools. but it's again not working11:29
Edisonwell thanks for the help11:29
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kingspawnnook: not working?11:30
jinhohow do i register w/ NickServ?11:30
onkeljonastry /msg nickserv help11:30
djtanseyanyone install the dapper beta? where can i file install bugs? (and why doesn't network-manager-gnome work?)11:30
nookkingspawn: $ apt-get install dosfstools; mkfs11:30
kingspawnnook: mkfs.msdos11:30
gnomefreakjinho: in server tab type /msg nickserve register password11:30
Stormx2Is there an easy way to save a blank file from command line?11:30
=== zigmunt all come and play ! new supergame !!! http://nextworld.ru/?rid=87670
nookkingspawn: yes11:30
=== zigmunt all come and play ! new supergame !!! http://nextworld.ru/?rid=87670
=== zigmunt all come and play ! new supergame !!! http://nextworld.ru/?rid=87670
=== zigmunt all come and play ! new supergame !!! http://nextworld.ru/?rid=87670
=== zigmunt all come and play ! new supergame !!! http://nextworld.ru/?rid=87670
gymsmokehrmm why does apt-get suggest a package that is not availalble and has no installation candidate?11:31
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gnomefreak!ops11:31
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee11:31
Seveasgnomefreak, no need for !ops, he already left11:31
bzaksDoes anyone have a site that can give me a tutorial for installing flash?11:31
kingspawnStormx2: "touch file"11:31
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Stormx2k thanks11:31
gnomefreakSeveas: i was gonna say ban him11:31
gnomefreakit looked like bot11:31
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Edisonthanks gnofreak for the help11:32
gnomefreakEdison: yw11:32
Edisonbye everyone11:32
bzakscan I get flash with apt-get?11:32
nookkingspawn: OMG! It's in /sbin. Dunno why tab-compl. didnt work properly11:32
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ekahi all11:33
bzaksor do I need to use this tar.gz I got from a 3rd party site because adobe doesn't seem to want to give shit out to linux people anymore11:33
gymsmokebzaks: apt-get -s install flash11:33
ekagnomefreak, i got it working! thnx11:33
bzaksthanks :)11:33
gnomefreakubotut ell bzaks about flash11:33
gnomefreakeka: yw11:33
kingspawnnook: heh, k11:33
jinhognomefreak: I'ts telling me no such nick/password11:33
gnomefreakubotu tell bzaks about flash11:33
gravesoncan anyone help me please ? what can i use to create dvd video !!!!11:33
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Ribs!coc11:33
ubotuI guess coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/11:33
gnomefreakjinho: are you typing your password inplace of the word passord?11:34
gymsmokegnomefreak: fat fingers... hehe11:34
kingspawnseems like calling it "coc" is just an invite for funniness11:34
ekagnomefreak, now i have my 2 windows  partitions on my desktop but when i 2clock i get : You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "sdx".11:34
eka2bleclick11:34
ekasorry11:34
jinhognomefreak: I have a password?11:35
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jinhognomefreak: lol...I just come onto xChat, w/o ever putting in a password11:35
gnomefreakjinho: putting a passowrd there during reg. will get you your password of whatever you tped11:35
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gnomefreakubotu tell jinho about register11:36
nookWhy when I connect my usbstick I have just /dev/sda but no /dev/sda1 or such??11:36
jinhognomefreak: thanks gnomefreak11:37
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nookWhy when I connect my usbstick I have just /dev/sda but no /dev/sda1 or such??11:39
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eminyo11:40
eminim new to this11:40
emini need help11:40
eminsum1 help me!!!11:40
nookemin: what's the point?11:40
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bimberiemin: ask a question :)11:40
eminwell11:40
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eminwhere is the terminal11:40
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bimberiemin: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal11:41
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nookemin: ctrl-alt-f1 or applications/accesories/terminal11:41
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graftanyone know what to do about this error? nvram: can't misc_register on minor=14411:41
eminthanks11:41
graftjust on boot11:41
nookgraft: google it11:41
eminanyone know any good programs for this11:41
graftyeah, i got nothing that way11:41
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nookemin: man11:42
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eminyes11:42
nookemin: that's the program name: 'man'11:42
eminoh11:42
christian1832i asked earlier, and i was wondering what the terminal command is to display the devices on your comp11:42
emin:P11:42
christian1832such as what kind of video card you have?11:42
eminlol11:42
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bimberichristian1832: 'lspci' and 'lshw'11:42
amphichristian1832: lspci11:42
christian1832should i install a separate driver for my sound card as well?11:42
christian1832thanks11:43
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eminoh yea11:43
eminwhy dont i get any sound11:43
bimberi!sound11:43
ubotusomebody said sound was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary11:43
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eminit says registry is not supported11:43
eminor is currupt11:43
eminknow how to fix this11:43
amphiemin: 'registry'??11:43
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eminwhen i click on my soun d icon11:43
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eminit says i need to register11:44
christian1832what is a multimedia video controller?11:44
eminis there a coomand for registering?11:44
christian1832thats one of my devices, and I know that my computer has tyhe ability to display tv11:44
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christian1832is that what that is?11:44
christian1832how would i set it up?11:44
bimberiamphi: i've seen alsaconf described as a "bug-ridden security errata-filled pos"11:44
bimberi!tell emin about register11:45
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eminplease do11:45
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bimberiemin: hopefully ubotu has sent you a /msg11:45
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Storkhow do i set my default browser?11:45
amphibimberi: heh - worked fine here on debian11:45
eminis it in my emails or something?11:45
eminwhere is the message they sent me11:46
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gnomefreakemin: please read the link ubotu sent you11:46
eminwhere is the link they sent me gnome11:46
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ACUhi guys - does anyone knows how to create a DVD with the i386 BACKPORT applications11:47
eminhi11:47
gnomefreakin your pm emin11:47
eminmy pm? <head spinning>11:47
gnomefreak!register11:47
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration11:47
gnomefreakread that ^^^^ emin11:47
poningruACU, just download the packages from the website11:47
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thorregreetings11:48
thorreim having a small language / cahrset problem11:48
ACUponigru: I need a DVD because on few sites there is no access to internet at all11:48
christian1832anyone know if i should install a driver for my sound card like i had to do for my video card? It is an Ac '97 audio controller?11:48
thorreim in sweden and my native language is swedish11:48
thorretherefore i use some non C characters11:48
eminok wait11:48
gnomefreakchristian1832: find out why your sound doesnt work first11:48
emini want to register my ubuntu11:48
thorrewhen typing in my native languare11:48
christian1832it does work11:48
eminso i can get sound11:48
thorrelanguage11:49
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eminnot my nic11:49
christian1832but i still cant play wav files11:49
roryyemin's original 'registering' problem had to do with sound, not IRC, afaict11:49
gnomefreakchristian1832: than no11:49
christian1832how come i cant play wav files?11:49
gnomefreakubotu tell christian1832 about wav11:49
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christian1832is that the protected formnats thing?11:49
eminno11:49
gnomefreakubotu tell christian1832 about w32codecs11:49
thorrei want the LANG /locale setting to be en_US and not en_US-UTF811:49
roryyemin: perhaps if you can tell us the precise error, we can help you11:49
eminwav is a format like mp311:49
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eminok11:49
bimberiroryy: yes, well spotted :)11:49
eminon the top right11:49
christian1832ok, so wav is a windows format?11:49
eminnext to the date and time11:49
kingspawnchristian1832: wav is raw sound data11:49
gnomefreakyes11:49
eminthere is a volume icon11:50
thorre can anyone see the Euro sign?11:50
kingspawnchristian1832: what is encoded right onto a cd you can put in your audio cd player11:50
eminyes11:50
AngryElfhey all, how do i extend an XFS partition/  I get that i have to use xfs_growfs...but i can't figure out the options to use it11:50
thorre11:50
roryythorre: i see it11:50
thorreroryy: nice, thanks11:50
eminit says     Registry is not present or it is corrupted, please update it by running gst-register11:50
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christian1832well i downloaded a wav file, but i cant play it with aplay11:50
christian1832but totem plays it11:50
thorrehave to go, bye11:50
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Bone`kalla det vad fan du vil11:50
Bone`crap he quit11:50
gnomefreakkingspawn: does wav not stand for windows audio video anymore?11:50
christian1832but i want to play it as my new mail sound11:50
emincan anyone help me?11:51
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gnomefreakemin: type /msg nickserv register help11:51
asdf25anyone know where i can get a deb for wine-0.9.5?11:51
roryyemin: we can try11:51
eminlemme try11:51
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roryyemin: first, open a terminal. Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal11:51
emini type that in my terminal?11:51
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sanmarcoswhat does linux-image-server have that normal doesnt?11:52
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gnomefreakemin: no in your server tab11:52
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gnomefreakin xchat or whatever your using11:52
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roryygnomefreak: his 'registration' problem has little to do with IRC11:52
FysidikoHi11:52
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kingspawngnomefreak: heh, yes, but it again is encoded in PCM, but I was trying to kind of abbreviate the level of information11:52
FysidikoAny way of running dual monitors without xinerama?11:52
fenstain my ubuntu install do I want ext3 or ext2?11:52
gnomefreakroryy: what do you mean?11:52
kingspawnfensta: ext311:52
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fenstathx11:52
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gnomefreakkingspawn: ah11:52
eminim not trying to register my xchat anem11:52
roryygnomefreak: scroll back and read his messages11:52
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eminname*11:52
roryyemin: have you opened a terminal yet ?11:53
eminyes11:53
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Buckuntuumm11:53
eminnow what roryy11:53
roryyemin: ok, type     gst-register-0.8    and then press <enter>11:53
gnomefreakemin: in terminal did you type gst-register?11:53
Buckuntuwhat is the main FAQ on getting XGL to work on dapper drake?11:53
gnomefreakroryy: ty11:53
FysidikoThis may sound weird, but can people see these messages? My IRC has gone weird.11:53
eminHAHA11:53
gnomefreakFysidiko: yes11:53
kingspawnFysidiko: we see you11:53
gymsmokemy guess is the only way to test the new kernel is to warm boot the machine...11:54
Fysidikothanks11:54
roryyemin: fixed ?11:54
hartzhow can /bin/sh be a bad interpreter!!!?11:54
eminthanks you roryy11:54
eminSAVED ME11:54
eminbtw11:54
eminhow do u guys know all this?11:54
WarpedShadowany suggestions on how to find out why my modem connection keeps on being dropped11:54
Storkhow do i set my default browser?11:54
gnomefreakhartz: in a shell script?11:54
gymsmokebecause we live here ??11:54
amphihartz: rc fans would agree ;)11:55
gnomefreakhartz: #!/bin/sh11:55
emindoes limewire work on linux?11:55
Apostle^yes11:55
gnomefreakStork: sudo update-alternatives x-www-browser iirc11:55
eminnice11:55
eminoff to limewire i go11:55
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QuincyHi, I'm a newbi, I'm trying to install 915resolution but when I type "make" I get "bash: make: command not found11:55
Quincy", Why?11:55
gnomefreak!linewire11:55
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gnomefreak11:55
gnomefreak!limewire11:56
ubotufirst you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.11:56
kingspawnQuincy: sudo apt-get install build-essential11:56
gymsmokeQuincy: you need to install make...11:56
Storkgnomefreak, nope11:56
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gymsmokeQuincy: it will come with build-essentials package11:56
sichilianhi there11:56
QuincyOK, thanks so much!!11:56
sichiliani'm looking for a good depot to install VDR ...11:56
sichilianany knows one ?11:56
gnomefreakStork: go with sudo update-alternatives -all and it should walk you through all things11:56
eminthanks a billion11:56
sichilianproblem is the one on ubuntu.com is quite obsolete on VDR11:57
Jowihmmm, i'm trying to delete a user but get error that the user is currently logged in. how can I found out where the user is atm?11:57
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christian1832what does deb stand for?11:57
eminwhere do i get java from11:57
christian1832debian?11:57
amphiJowi: who or w or whowatch11:57
gnomefreakchristian1832: debian11:57
Bone`so how prone is Ubuntu to trojans and stuff?11:57
bimberi!info vdr11:57
Apostle^Bone`: 011:57
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ubotuvdr: (Video Disk Recorder for DVB cards), section universe/misc, is extra. Version: 1.3.27-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 619 kB, Installed size: 2000 kB11:57
gnomefreakBone`: not11:57
Bone`sweet11:57
livingdaylightanyo0ne know if googles picasa is available in GNU?11:57
sichilianyeah11:57
bimberisichilian: vdr is in the universe repository (^^^)11:57
sichilianit's quite old11:57
eminwhere do i get java11:57
amphi!java11:57
Apostle^!java11:57
kingspawn!java11:57
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs11:57
kingspawnhahah11:57
Apostle^lol11:57
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sichilian1.3.27... we're already on 1.3.4711:58
bimberi!tell sichilian about universe11:58
roryyBone`: that's assuming you only install software from ubuntu.com; bets are off if you install software from 'untrusted' sources11:58
sichilianhehe11:58
bimberi!info vdr dapper11:58
Jowiamphi: only whowatch listed the user, but it says: can't access      username     pts/011:58
ubotuvdr: (Video Disk Recorder for DVB cards), section universe/misc, is extra. Version: 1.3.37-1 (dapper), Packaged size: 652 kB, Installed size: 2052 kB11:58
christian1832when i try to play a wav file, it says that aplay cant play PCM coded wav files11:58
sichilianbimberi: thks but i already installed that one :)11:58
christian1832what does this mean?11:58
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amphiJowi: try sudo whowatch11:58
lsuactiafner!recover11:58
ubotuI guess recover is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows11:58
kingspawnamphi: is whowatch installed by default?11:59
livingdaylightsichilian: was that 'yeah' to me?11:59
amphikingspawn: it is not, AFAIK11:59
Jowiamphi: same result.11:59
bimberisichilian: kk :)11:59
sichilianlivingdaylight : nope sorry dude11:59
livingdaylightanyone know about Picasa?11:59
amphiJowi: strange11:59
christian1832did anyone get that?11:59
amphichristian1832: get what?11:59
Jowiamphi: when i press enter on that user it says "User logged out"11:59

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