[02:02] <httpdss> does anyone know if there is any plaxo (as a resource) for kontact being developed ?
[02:09] <httpdss> its like a web service that works as a personal online agenda (contacts and event calender) ... http://www.plaxo.com/
[02:10] <httpdss> there is a thunderbird plugin for it...
[02:11] <httpdss> and also works with M$ outl**k
[10:06] <_Sime> I can't open mulitple Kates now... anyone know how to fix this?
[10:11] <Lure> _Sime: I think Tonio_ added some magic to desktop file...
[10:12] <Lure> you should be able to start tem from shell ;-)
[01:19] <hunger> Any idea why my display keeps getting darker at random times?
[01:20] <Lure> hunger: just when inactive or in general? Laptop?
[01:20] <hunger> Lure: When my laptop is on AC and I am working on it.
[01:21] <hunger> Lure: Suddenly the milo brightness dialog comes up and the screen gets much darker.
[01:21] <hunger> Lure It is a T43p (Lenovo Thinkpad)
[01:21] <Lure> interesting... my notebook has only HW key controls for brightness
[01:21] <hunger> using kpowersave.
[01:22] <Lure> do you use kpowersave - I know it has some brithness settings in last version
[01:23] <Lure> maybe you scheme in powersave changes (not sure why) and causes change in brightness setting
[01:24] <hunger> Lure: Possible.
[01:24] <hunger> Lure: I wonder why that would happen though.
[01:24] <hunger> Well, something for eft to fix;-)
[01:26] <jpatrick> or us to fix in eft
[01:46] <freeflying> Riddell: I got lots feedback that beta's install cd can not install grub 
[01:47] <\sh> same I heard yesterday for ubuntu espresso install
[01:48] <freeflying> \sh: seems this is know ?
[01:54] <\sh> dunno..but looks like..
[02:09] <kmon> kubuntu live beta torrent for amd64 is way sloow....
[02:12] <jpatrick> can someone confirm bug #40628 ?
[02:12] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 40628 in kmediafactory "kmediafactory seems to depend on mjpegtools to work." [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/40628
[02:48] <mornfall> Riddell: ping?
[02:49] <mornfall> hi Hobbsee 
[02:49] <jpatrick> hi everyone
[02:50] <Hobbsee> hi jpatrick 
[02:51] <Lure> hi evertone
[02:51] <Lure> s/evertone/everyone/ ;-)
[02:52] <jpatrick> although evertone sounds better
[02:53] <jpatrick> I'll be dead by that time
[02:54] <Lure> can somebody confirm bug 35581 - I cannot reproduce...
[02:54] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 35581 in kubuntu-meta "dapper f5 live: administrator mode doesn't work in systemsettings" [Critical,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/35581
[02:56] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: really?  why?
[02:56] <Hobbsee> hypoglycaemia?
[02:56] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: i get hungry
[02:56] <Hobbsee> good point
[02:58] <jpatrick> I'm off to lunch
[02:59] <Hobbsee> Lure: trying to reproduce
[03:01] <Hobbsee> Lure: i cant reproduce that - p/w box comes up, it wont accept the wrong p/w, it does accept the correct p/w
[03:01] <Lure> exactly - I do not know whay they got such behaviour - it is too bad to be true 
[03:04] <Hobbsee> Lure: it seems commonly reported.  does it happen on a new user?
[03:05] <Lure> Hobbsee: good point - I have dual boot with Kubuntu Beta (no update yet) and will try there
[03:05] <mornfall> Hobbsee: you did something to Riddell?
[03:06] <Hobbsee> Lure: okay.   mine's always worked in dapper, all the way thru the flights (installed off flight 1, and flight 4)
[03:06] <Hobbsee> mornfall: er...duct tape and locked him in the cupboard?  how'd you figure that out?
[03:06] <mornfall> Hobbsee: he doesn't react
[03:07] <Hobbsee> mornfall: idle for an hour....
[03:07] <mornfall> so probably the duct tape prevents him from reaching keyboard? :)
[03:07] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:07] <Hobbsee> well, the problem probably is more that he cant see the screen, to know when to type
[03:11] <raphink> let's fix kipi-plugins for gallery2 support :)
[03:12] <raphink> small yet useful :)
[03:12] <raphink> hi Hobbsee
[03:12] <Hobbsee> hey raphink 
[03:12] <raphink> thanks for the reporting about the kopete patch Hobbsee, that was a very nice one :)
[03:13] <Hobbsee> raphink: no problem :)  _arthurb_ first mentioned it in here though
[03:13] <raphink> :)
[03:13] <raphink> good
[03:13] <raphink> my #1 bug to fix now is the korganizer one
[03:13] <raphink> which is horrid
[03:13] <Hobbsee> ewww
[03:13] <raphink> and I don't have the knowledge to fix it myself in a reasonable time
[03:14] <raphink> I mean shipping a korganizer that crashes everytime you try to add/edit an event is not an option
[03:15] <Lure> raphink: which bug - I am adding events on daily basis...
[03:15] <raphink> Lure: really?
[03:16] <raphink> I have this bug even on debian sid
[03:16] <raphink> and people ahve it on BSD too
[03:17] <Lure> raphink: bug id?
[03:17] <raphink> let me find it
[03:18] <raphink> Lure: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/39419
[03:19] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 39419 in kdepim korganizer "korganizer krashes when creating event" [Normal,Confirmed]  
[03:20] <Lure> interesting... the only thing I can think of is that I have recreated my ~/.kde with Flight 6
[03:20] <Lure> (I did manually move from Breezy)
[03:21] <Lure> Maybe is something that was left by older korginizer in config files that makes 3.5.2 unhappy
[03:22] <Lure> raphink: you tested korganizer through kontact?
[03:22] <raphink> both
[03:23] <Lure> and I suppose your chroot tests where on clean user (no upgrades)...
[03:24] <raphink> Lure: sorry i'm a bit busy I'll test again soon
[03:26] <raphink> not sure I tested with a clean profile Lure
[03:26] <raphink> I'll do that
[03:27] <Lure> raphink: since it crashes in Q widget, I suspect it may have to do with screen resolutions potentially
[03:27] <raphink> ah
[03:27] <raphink> that's weird
[03:27] <raphink> the weird thing is that editing tasks works fine
[03:27] <raphink> but not events
[03:27] <Lure> I will test on my desktop which does not have high-res display (145 DPI) - maybe I can reproduce there
[03:28] <Lure> yes, but todo has different dialog than event
[03:28] <Lure> it may be good to run with valgrind...
[03:28] <raphink> I reproduced it on 3 machines
[03:28] <raphink> with different resolutions
[03:29] <raphink> Lure: crashes just the same with a clean profile
[03:29] <raphink> on dapper, up-to-date
[03:31] <Lure> it looks this crash is due to assert (checking index 56), maybe some field is limited to 55 elements and you have more...
[03:32] <Lure> raphink: you tested on english or french?
[03:32] <raphink> french
[03:32] <raphink> I don't have anything in the fields
[03:33] <Lure> that might be - all reporters have non-english names...
[03:33] <Lure> ;-)
[03:33] <raphink> since I'm adding an event
[03:33] <raphink> hmm
[03:33] <raphink> I'll test in english US then
[03:35] <raphink> Lure: crashes all the same in US english
[03:52] <Riddell> mornfall: hi
[03:53] <mornfall> Riddell: hi
[03:53] <mornfall> Riddell: when will debtags update get back to debtags postinst?
[03:53] <mornfall> people cry about adept not working all the time
[03:53] <Riddell> I don't think it can, the build daemons don't have internet access so it times out
[03:54] <Riddell> is that what makes adept think the apt database isn't there?
[03:54] <mornfall> Riddell: yes
[03:54] <mornfall> adept depends on debtags specifically because of the postinst
[03:54] <Hobbsee> so he escaped from the duct tape and the closet!  welcome back Riddell!
[03:55] <Riddell> mornfall: can't it just ue the debtags database that debtags has?
[03:56] <Riddell> morning Hobbsee 
[03:56] <mornfall> Riddell: the one generated by debtags update?
[03:56] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:56] <mornfall> :)
[03:56] <Riddell> mornfall: doesnt it have one to fall back on?
[03:57] <Riddell> what happens if there's no internet access?
[03:57] <Riddell> which is the case with the live fs build, and probably a fair proportion of traditional style installs
[03:57] <mornfall> debtags update has fallback -- but there is no fallback if the binary index is not there
[03:58] <mornfall> there's also debtags update --local
[03:58] <mornfall> from some point onwards
[03:59] <mornfall> Riddell: but you don't have tags in Packages file, do you?
[04:00] <Riddell> let me download it and ee
[04:00] <Riddell> see
[04:00] <mornfall> Riddell: anyway, there's /usr/share/debtags/ IIRC with *some* database
[04:00] <Riddell> there's tags-current.gz
[04:01] <mornfall> Riddell: so you should be able to put file:///usr/share/debtags into debtags/sources.list
[04:01] <mornfall> and let debtags update run
[04:02] <mornfall> Riddell: it also gives you a way to fix kde/gnome/other selection of adept_installer (if the local database is used you can fix that one)
[04:15] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: any tips for new upstream release updating for PackGuide?
[04:16] <Hobbsee> er...what?
[04:16] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: i know it's getting kinda late, but that sentence isnt making much sense no matter how many times i read it!
[04:17] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: I'm working on the PackGuide now
[04:17] <Hobbsee> yes...
[04:17] <Hobbsee> oh, for how to upgrade a package that upstream has released?
[04:17] <jpatrick> and you had some points on the updating package bit
[04:18] <Hobbsee> oh...from a conversatoin that i had with Riddell many months ago..
[04:18] <Hobbsee> which i pastebinned for a guy?
[04:18] <jpatrick> something for ubuntu-motu
[04:18] <jpatrick> from*
[04:19] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[04:20] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: this?  http://pastebin.com/676887
[04:21] <jpatrick> ok, I'll right up a bit on it
[05:09] <Riddell> mornfall: I've uploaded a copy of debtags that includes a copy of the files needed in /var/lib/debtags
[05:09] <Riddell> sorry for messing that up
[05:31] <mornfall> Riddell: i still think that there's a proper way to do that (like using debtags update on a local-only database)
[05:31] <mornfall> no idea how you generate the file in /var/lib, but if it's tdb it's architecture-dependent IIRC
[06:00] <Riddell> mornfall: the version of debtags in ubuntu doesn't seem to have the --local
[06:06] <mornfall> Riddell: but if default sources.list has nothing remote, it won't fetch anything now, will iT?
[06:06] <mornfall> it*
[06:06] <mornfall> but yeah, there'll probably be this problem with upgrade path
[06:06] <mornfall> Riddell: whatever, if it works...
[06:17] <OdyX> Who cares about Kubuntu's iconset ?
[06:18] <Tm_T> kwwii I think
[06:18] <OdyX> 'cause I wondered about Ogg's icons...
[06:19] <OdyX> I have a video with Vorbis and Theora... Icon stays "loudspeaker"
[06:20] <Tm_T> OdyX: well, problem of ogg video when it's not .ogv
[06:21] <OdyX> Tm_T: Ogv is no known extension...
[06:21] <Tm_T> true, but I have seen it somewhere :p
[06:21] <Tm_T> and that did tell me directly what it is
[06:21] <OdyX> Tm_T: AFAIK (after reading the Ogg specs), Ogg is a container... could contain only video with no sound.
[06:21] <Tm_T> true
[06:22] <Tm_T> ogg is just container, normally containing vorbis-audio
[06:22] <OdyX> BUT... I just tried to rename it...
[06:22] <OdyX> it doesn't change anything...
[06:22] <Tm_T> ugh
[06:22] <Tm_T> might be mime problem
[06:22] <OdyX> in properties, it is still said "Ogg Vorbis sound"
[06:23] <Tm_T> well, then container tells it's audio perhaps?
[06:23] <OdyX> Tm_T: could be that my Ogg is bad formed....
[06:27] <OdyX> Tm_T: That's it....
[06:27] <OdyX> Tm_T: the file in Examples is treated correctly.
[06:28] <OdyX> Tm_T: so this is a thoggen error.
[06:56] <OdyX> Tm_T: bug kde 109598
[06:56] <Ubugtu> KDE bug 109598 in general "konqi needs to be a bit tolerant with theora headers" [Wishlist,Resolved: fixed]  http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109598
[08:37] <Tm_T> OdyX: aah, interesting
[08:38] <jpatrick> Tm_T: that took a while to reply to
[08:38] <Tm_T> it did?
[08:38] <Tm_T> nah, I don't think so
[08:39] <jpatrick> let's see an hour and a half
[08:40] <jpatrick> say*
[08:40] <Tm_T> that's not much
[08:41] <jpatrick> max is 5 months
[09:57] <MidMark> devels: there are no 1.5.0.2 for mozilla browser and email client?
[09:58] <jpatrick> raphink: ping
[09:58] <raphink> pong jpatrick
[09:58] <jpatrick> REVU request: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2300
[09:58] <raphink> not right now
[09:58] <raphink> send me a mail about it
[09:59] <raphink> I'm busy with a few bugs
[09:59] <jpatrick> just so you know :)
[09:59] <raphink> ok 
[10:00] <jpatrick> and anyone else that can revu
[10:01] <raphink> sure
[10:03] <raphink> Lure: seems you're right about i18n && korganizer bug
[10:03] <raphink> I'm testing stuff on the live CD right now
[10:03] <raphink> and it seems switching languages provokes the bug
[10:04] <raphink> jpatrick: the week has just begun ;)
[10:04] <Lure> raphink: good - at least it is more clear now
[10:04] <raphink> I'm still testing to get sure of it
[10:04] <jpatrick> well in two hours
[10:04] <jpatrick> night
[10:04] <raphink> I consider weeks begin on sunday :)
[10:04] <jpatrick> ;)
[10:05] <Lure> yes, and jpatrick is already done with this one ;-)
[10:05] <raphink> hehe right
[10:05] <raphink> that's right
[10:06] <jpatrick> bye now
[10:45] <raphink> hmmpf
[11:35] <Tonio_> hey
[11:46] <raphink> allee: I updated kipi-plugins with a patch for gallery2 export, if you feel like forwarding that to debian
[11:56] <allee> raphink: Thx. For the info: My current todo is first digikam, then the imageplugins and kipi-plugins.
[11:56] <raphink> it's very fast 
[11:57] <raphink> just take the patch and forward it if you feel
[11:57] <raphink> it allows to log into gallery2
[11:57] <raphink> which is currently not possible
[11:57] <raphink> but many people have switched to gallery2 now
[12:00] <allee> raphink: yeah, I've seen the gallery2 discussion and patch in kde-imaging ml
[12:01] <raphink> ok
[12:01] <allee> raphink: but I was too busy lately :(
[12:01] <raphink> there has been 3 patches
[12:01] <raphink> so I've merged them in one
[12:01] <raphink> that's applied in kipi-plugins now
[12:01] <raphink> in ubuntu
[12:01] <allee> raphink: lots of bug fixing is currently going on in kipi-plugins.  They try to finalize a 1.0 release
[12:01] <raphink> great
[12:02] <raphink> that'll be for edgy
[12:02] <allee> raphink: yes, it will be too late.
[12:02] <allee> raphink: + for dapper
[12:03] <raphink> yes
[12:03] <allee> raphink: pity because the html export plugins has quite some bugs. and it's successor sounds promising
[12:03] <raphink> mhm