[12:12] <angasule> umh, in Adept, if I click on 'Install Package' for 'boson' (a game) it says 'BREAK(install)', why is that?
[12:12] <kevin> !sound
[12:12] <ubotu> hmm... sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[12:21] <satempler> angasule: because it would cause havoc with the system
[12:21] <angasule> satempler: I don't know why, though, some libraries it installs or what?
[12:21] <mark---> Blissex: This is on a Mac TiBook, about six years old.
[12:21] <satempler> angasule: it happens some times with trivial stuff probly libs like you said
[12:22] <angasule> :(
[12:22] <GiGaHuRtZ> I'm having some trouble getting streaming video going with konqueror, it works in firefox but not konq, and konq picks up the plugins, any idea?
[12:22] <GiGaHuRtZ> Also java isn't running in konq but runs fine in FF
[12:23] <mark---> Blissex: when booted to OS X, it works just great.
[12:25] <stephenkl> Jesus christ, the dapper KDM theme is bright as hell
[12:34] <r0xz> damn, that gmain_server process sometimes stressed my amd64 3200+ totally :(
[12:34] <r0xz> *gam_server
[12:35] <r0xz> i thought i left that (and the more than 1 gig ram usage) with breezy 2 months ago
[12:40] <r0xz> and my bug report on breezy is still not confirmed, although another users said having the same problem. Look like this gamin is a pain in the ass?
[12:42] <r0xz> guys, is there anything i can do to supply information?
[12:42] <r0xz> please let me know...
[12:54] <FrdPrefct> is there any other decent graphics program besides gimp?
[01:00] <dumbkiwi> FrdPrefct: krita
[01:01] <dumbkiwi> Does anyone have the audiocd:/ kio-slave running on konqueror.  I just get 100% cpu usage, and nothing else
[01:05] <viator> i like krita
[01:05] <viator> but im too used to gimp
[01:05] <viator> so i keep using it
[01:13] <dumbkiwi> Does anyone have the audiocd:/ kio-slave running on konqueror.  I just get 100% cpu usage, and nothing else
[01:14] <Joshr> does kubuntu come with amarok or do i have to get it from repositories?
[01:15] <Manta> I think it is inculded on the install cd
[01:15] <Joshr> ok, cause i am installing kubuntu right now on a machine, i wanna vnc to it, does anyone know of a guide to do that
[01:15] <Joshr> what i need on my kubuntu machine to do this
[01:16] <slow-motion> n8
[01:18] <Joshr> will kubuntu mount both my hdd when it installs or do i have to mount my second one?
[01:19] <Manta> it has the kde romote desktop shareing thingy, which is basicly a vnc server, other wise you can DL and install a vnc server but you will ned to tell it what window to host, never did quite fugure that out my self
[01:19] <Manta> It will try and automount ALL your hard drives for you
[01:20] <Manta> you can specify mount pints manualy if you will during setup
[01:20] <Joshr> can i access the kde remote desktop thingy via a vnc client or does it have to set it up somehow
[01:20] <Joshr> i setup the main hdd but i didnt format the second, it is still in a windows format
[01:20] <nir> hello
[01:21] <nir> how i upgrade to the latest version , is there a wiki  ?:)
[01:21] <mfb__> !tell nir about upgrade
[01:21] <Manta> you need to set krfb up, (mainly just click ok a few times and give pirmisions etc) and then any vnc client will conect
[01:22] <Joshr> ok
[01:22] <Joshr> is krfb in a menu or so i have to get it from repositories
[01:23] <Manta> I "think it was installed automaticly, if not it is in the kde networking package
[01:23] <Joshr> ok
[01:23] <Joshr> thanks
[01:23] <Manta> krfb should show up in the internet or utilities menu when it's installed
[01:24] <Manta> I moved mine so don't remeber wher it was originaly
[01:24] <Joshr> thanks manta
[01:25] <Manta> and the partitioner in the install would have left the windows partition alone, it should be in your /meda/ directory
[01:25] <Manta> np, just learning myself ;)
[01:25] <Joshr> i have used ubuntu, but not a whole lot, just a lil experimenting, not very good at it
[01:27] <Joshr> manta do you know if i need a internet connection to boot kubuntu, I know it searched for one and gave me errors on ubuntu if i didnt have a connection
[01:27] <Joshr> it always finsihed booting, but it always wanted a connection
[01:28] <Manta> I have booted without one conected, it did sit awhile when it didn't find a DNS server but it did start eventualy
[01:28] <dumbkiwi> Does anyone have the audiocd:/ kio-slave running on konqueror.  I just get 100% cpu usage, and nothing else
[01:28] <Joshr> ok
[01:28] <Joshr> thanks
[01:28] <Manta> it might pop up it it tried to find update automaticly, but that can be disable I'd imigin
[01:29] <Joshr> ok
[01:29] <Joshr> thanks
[01:29] <GiGaHuRtZ> Any ideas on how to get my volume control wheel on my laptop work under KDE?  It works fine in gnome...
[01:29] <ubuntu> anyone here?
[01:30] <Evil_Monkey> GiGaHuRtZ: I have an even more annoying problem - the volume down bit works, but not the volume up bit
[01:30] <GiGaHuRtZ> Ha, same here
[01:30] <GiGaHuRtZ> in some apps
[01:30] <GiGaHuRtZ> Like, like when I stream video in firefox
[01:30] <Lilfade> is there a fix for the beta yet?
[01:30] <Evil_Monkey> the weird thing is that it works fine after a clean install of Dapper Flight 5, but then when I do dist-upgrade it craps out
[01:31] <GiGaHuRtZ> Odd
[01:31] <GiGaHuRtZ> I found my volume wheel to be a nice feature, and almost not worth using kde without it :(
[01:31] <Lilfade> i cant even get it to install
[01:31] <GiGaHuRtZ> Get what to install?
[01:31] <Lilfade> 6.06
[01:32] <GiGaHuRtZ> Worked fine for me...
[01:32] <GiGaHuRtZ> What's the problem with it?
[01:32] <Joshr> is flight 5 stable?
[01:32] <GiGaHuRtZ> Well flight 6 is the newest afaik
[01:32] <Lilfade> the install thing works but at step 6 it shuts off and wont continue
[01:32] <GiGaHuRtZ> Oh I use a daily build cd
[01:32] <GiGaHuRtZ> not the live cd
[01:33] <GiGaHuRtZ> What did you use for a filesystem?
[01:33] <GiGaHuRtZ> I heard of a glitch like that
[01:33] <stephenkl> Is this the appropriate channel to ask what the big changes for KDE are with dapper, or should I ask that in ubuntu+1?
[01:33] <stephenkl> since the question involves KDE
[01:33] <Lilfade> well im on the live version of 5.10 can i dl the iso and mount it on this system and install it?
[01:33] <Manta> Lilfade: I think there must be a problem with the installer on the live cd, the same exact thing happend to me, but I then used the "install" cd and it worked fine
[01:33] <GiGaHuRtZ> Nope, unless you go two cd drives
[01:34] <Lilfade> o pooh
[01:34] <Lilfade> lol
[01:34] <GiGaHuRtZ> I know it stinks...
[01:34] <GiGaHuRtZ> I had the same sort of thing happen
[01:34] <GiGaHuRtZ> So I had to install windows just to get a install cd
[01:34] <GiGaHuRtZ> :(
[01:35] <Lilfade> thats what im temped to but it just takes to damm long lol
[01:35] <GiGaHuRtZ> I know :(
[01:37] <Joshr> Manta, do you know if i have to be booted into kubuntu to use the kde remote sharing thing, or if the sharing thing can sign me on, i dont plan on using this box with a monitor, just vnc so i can't access it to put a password in
[01:38] <embrik> what do i do to get kaffeine to play avi and such?
[01:39] <HymnToLife> !tell embrik about codecs
[01:39] <Manta> Joshr:  Hmm, I'm not sure, I did just that at one time, but I don't remeber if I was using kfrb, you will have to try it, the vnc server will forsure but takes a little configuring
[01:40] <dumbkiwi> Does anyone have the audiocd:/ kio-slave running on konqueror.  I just get 100% cpu usage, and nothing else
[01:40] <Lilfade> where do i find the dapper reposits list?
[01:40] <dumbkiwi> Does anyone have the audiocd:/ kio-slave running on konqueror.  I just get 100% cpu usage, and nothing else
[01:40] <dumbkiwi> oops
[01:40] <Joshr> thanks
[01:40] <embrik> and what do i do to fasten up the speed on the usb-port?
[01:42] <Lilfade> anyone?
[01:42] <dumbkiwi> \/etc/sources.list
[01:42] <Manta> I used the hoary rep list and changed the names to dapper
[01:43] <apokryphos> Manta: say goodbye to your system :D
[01:43] <apokryphos> hoary -> dapper dist-upgrade is specifically not supported
[01:43] <Manta> tnx, lol
[01:43] <apokryphos> as is listed on practically every upgrade guide
[01:43] <apokryphos> you have to hoary -> breezy -> dapper
[01:44] <Manta> sorry, ment for finding the address,
[01:44] <Manta> for the dapper files
[01:50] <Lilfade> hey can i run the "live cd" from my external hdd to install it?
[01:58] <Joshr> does anyone know if you can have a user account that can automatically log on without a password?
[01:59] <stephenkl> Yes, it's possible...there's something about it in kcontrol
[01:59] <stephenkl> I'm not sure where
[01:59] <Joshr> ok
[02:00] <Joshr> is kcontrol installed off the cd?
[02:00] <GiGaHuRtZ> Yes, but kubuntu uses some poorly modified dumbed down version of kcontrol
[02:01] <Joshr> gigahurtz do u know how i can set up so it automatically logs me on without a password, or a tutorial on how to
[02:01] <GiGaHuRtZ> umm
[02:01] <arrinmurr> Joshr: alt+f2 -> kcontrol -> System Administration -> Login Manager -> Convenience -> Enable Auto-Login
[02:02] <GiGaHuRtZ> I just edit the "system settings" thing on my kmenu so it opens kcontrol ;)
[02:02] <Joshr> ok
[02:02] <Joshr> i will see if i can get it to work
[02:03] <Joshr> my system is slow i am using just as a media center kinda for now
[02:03] <GiGaHuRtZ> KDE is ALOT more resource intensive compared to Gnome
[02:03] <Joshr> well the one that i have kubuntu on
[02:04] <_apollo2011_> my fonts got messed up after I updated some packages and I set the GTK font settings to use the KDE fonts, but now they are all either too small or too big. I want to switch it back to a different font, but the System Settings window never saves the setting.
[02:04] <Joshr> well i was told that amarok was a good audio player and i didnt like anything off of ubuntu for audio playback
[02:04] <_apollo2011_> Is there someway I can edit a file directly to change the setting?
[02:05] <embrik> what is the channel for open office called? I tried with #openoffice
[02:06] <arrinmurr> embrik: ...and?
[02:06] <embrik> I was alone there..
[02:07] <embrik> arrinmur: almost :-)
[02:07] <arrinmurr> embrik: #openoffice.org
[02:07] <Manta> embrik: #openoffice.org
[02:07] <embrik> thanks
[02:08] <Joshr> does anyone know how to change my default screen resoulution?
[02:09] <Joshr> i think what i entered during setup is gonna be too big when i vnc to it
[02:09] <ice_1963> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:13] <_apollo2011_> my fonts got messed up after I updated some packages and I set the GTK font settings to use the KDE fonts, but now they are all either too small or too big. I want to switch it back to a different font, but the System Settings window never saves the setting.
[02:14] <embrik>  I m not able to insert sound in ipress 2.0. There are no alternatives under the insert-menu
[02:14] <embrik> I know this isn't a channel for asking about oo, but I am in a hurry and didn't get any contact at openoffice.org
[02:15] <embrik> anybody with the same experience?
[02:23] <Evil_Monkey> has anyone else found that with Kerry, the fonts are all weird looking, but then if you go to another window and then back to Kerry, they are fine?
[02:24] <_apollo2011_> my fonts goet messed up after I updated some packages and I set the GTK font settings to use the KDE fonts, but now they are all either too small or too big. I want to switch it back to a different font, but the System Settings window never saves the setting. How else can I edit these settings?
[02:30] <m5m> my fetchmail/mutt setup broke... something with local smtp/mta settings... I need a hand figuring out the problem please
[02:33] <soulfreshner> what is the ubuntu pacage called that includes all the build tools like gcc, make, etc?
[02:34] <Evil_Monkey> build-essential ?
[02:34] <soulfreshner> ta, Evil_Monkey!
[02:35] <Evil_Monkey> np
[02:37] <soulfreshner> this is the first time I set up ubuntu with KDE ... it looks so much nicer - pity the default software is pretty crappy compared to gnome
[02:39] <HymnToLife> soulfreshner> I personnally think KDE software is much better than GNOME
[02:39] <HymnToLife> k3b, Amarok, Konqueror...
[02:39] <soulfreshner> but konqueror doesn't have stumbleupon :-/
[02:40] <soulfreshner> hehe - I suppose some of the software isn't too bad
[02:40] <Joshr> how do i check my ip adress in kubuntu
[02:40] <soulfreshner> I like konsole compared to gnome-terminal
[02:40] <HymnToLife> Joshr> ifconfig
[02:40] <soulfreshner> ifconfig
[02:41] <HymnToLife> Kopete is very nice too compared to gaim
[02:41] <HymnToLife> too bad there's still that bug in MSN file transfers
[02:41] <soulfreshner> btw - What is k3b and amarok?
[02:41] <HymnToLife> k3b is the app to burn CDs and Amarok is the audio player
[02:42] <soulfreshner> I think I might be a bit biased because I cant get Adept to work
[02:42] <HymnToLife> agreee to that, Adept stinks compared to Synaptic
[02:42] <soulfreshner> oh well - I installed both desktops, so I can use both sets of software
[02:43] <HymnToLife> same here :)
[02:43] <soulfreshner> I haven't had any problems using gnome apps in KDE anyway
[02:43] <HymnToLife> first thing I do after installing my Ubuntu : sudo apt-get install kubuntu-dektop :p
[02:44] <soulfreshner> u using dapper?
[02:44] <HymnToLife> nope
[02:44] <HymnToLife> actually right now I'm using Windows :p
[02:44] <Joshr> one of my hdd don't show up how do i enable it?
[02:44] <soulfreshner> well - when you do decide to upgrade to dapper - get xgl to work
[02:45] <soulfreshner> it is ubercool
[02:45] <HymnToLife> Joshr> which filesystem ?
[02:45] <Joshr> not sure, either ntfs or fat32
[02:45] <Joshr> i dunno which one
[02:45] <Joshr> it used to be a windows box
[02:45] <HymnToLife> Joshr> sudo fdisk -l will tell you
[02:45] <HymnToLife> (that's a lowercase L, for list)
[02:46] <Joshr> how do i mount it
[02:46] <HymnToLife> !ntfs
[02:46] <ubotu> I guess ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:46] <HymnToLife> it's all explained in there
[02:52] <soulfreshner> thanks for the help guys, I'm off to bed :)
[02:54] <_greg> hello
[02:55] <_greg> I've got a new kubuntu installation. No internet
[02:55] <_greg> KWifiManager shows 54 MBit/sconnection speed;  iwconfig shows I'm connected with an access point,
[02:56] <_greg> but no accessing of internet possible.
[02:56] <_greg> "An error occured while loading Http://yahoo.com
[02:56] <_greg> unknown host
[03:00] <stephenkl> _greg: hm, check the output of ifconfig
[03:02] <_greg> k thx
[03:03] <_greg> okay stephenkl what in particular?
[03:03] <_greg> "UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST"
[03:10] <stephenkl> _greg: how many interfaces do you see? is there anything other than lo?
[03:10] <stephenkl> any eth0 or eth1?
[03:10] <stephenkl> or wlan0
[03:11] <stephenkl> Sorry, I have to reboot, just dist-upgraded
[03:11] <_greg> k
[03:11] <_greg> I know that ath0 has worked with other distroes on the box
[03:12] <_greg> yes, it does mention an eth0
[03:14] <dumbkiwi> Does anyone have the audiocd:/ kio-slave running on konqueror.  I just get 100% cpu usage, and nothing else
[03:17] <Joshr> i mounted a second harddrive and i can't get it to let me delete files on it
[03:17] <Joshr> i am logged in under the default user
[03:19] <stodge> This is driving me nuts - I'm trying to run configure through kdevelop for an app I'm developing, but it just won't see a shared library in /usr/local/lib
[03:19] <Joshr> why can't i delete files on a harddrive
[03:19] <Joshr> it isnt the installed drive it is a second hard drive
[03:20] <stodge> libclanApp-0.8.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:20] <stodge> ls -al /usr/local/lib/libclanApp-0.8.so.1
[03:20] <stodge> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 23 2006-04-17 19:40 /usr/local/lib/libclanApp-0.8.so.1 -> libclanApp-0.8.so.1.0.0
[03:21] <Joshr> any help?
[03:21] <Joshr> why wont it let me delete files on a harddrive?
[03:22] <stodge> Who owns the files joshr? I presume it was mounted as root
[03:22] <stodge> Which means you have to be root to delete the files
[03:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> Joshr: try using 'kdesu konqueror /path/to/harddrive/' -- that'll open you a root konqueror in the hard drive.
[03:22] <Joshr> thanks
[03:25] <sledge> Hey, I would like to use the Cursor font for my editor, but the plus sign ("+") shows up as a small subscript. What's the deal here? O.o
[03:27] <juanfe> hallo all
[03:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hello
[03:30] <_josh> I am trying to delete files on my hard drives, i am also signed in as joshr on my windows machine
[03:30] <_josh> how do i delete files
[03:30] <stephenkl> Can i get an opinion on how big my root partition should be?
[03:31] <_josh> how do i figure out the path to my hard drive
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> _josh: look in /media
[03:33] <_josh> CheeseBurgerMan what is a typical path to a Hardrive, mine is in media
[03:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> /media/hda1
[03:34] <_josh> thanks i think i had an extra charactger
[03:34] <_apricot> welcome to kubuntu!
[03:34] <_apricot> says a gnome user
[03:35] <_josh> i can't get anything to delete
[03:35] <_josh> how do i delete files
[03:36] <viator> rightclick and choose delete?
[03:36] <_josh> viator that isnt working
[03:36] <viator> you can only delete what you have permission to delete
[03:36] <_josh> how do i get permission
[03:36] <_josh> i am the only user on the computer
[03:36] <viator> where are the files
[03:37] <_josh> my second harddrive
[03:37] <Snake__> lol
[03:37] <_josh> it is either ntfs or fat32 format
[03:37] <_josh> dont remember
[03:37] <Snake__> _josh: if its NTFS your not going to be able to delete it
[03:38] <_josh> is there a utility to format a hdd inside kubuntu
[03:38] <viator> you can read and write to ntfs just that write doesnt work so well
[03:38] <viator> format a seperate hd?
[03:38] <Snake__> _josh: sudo apt-get install qtparted and run it
[03:38] <_josh> yes
[03:39] <viator> qtparted yep
[03:39] <_josh> what format should i have just a extra hdd in
[03:39] <viator> well depends
[03:39] <Snake__> is it linux
[03:39] <_josh> for linux
[03:39] <viator> 3xt3
[03:39] <viator> ext3
[03:40] <Snake__> ext3
[03:40] <Snake__> ;)
[03:40] <_josh> ok
[03:40] <_josh> just for file storage
[03:40] <viator> you can red and write to it from windows with a plugin
[03:40] <viator> if you want
[03:40] <_josh> ok
[03:40] <sledge> _josh: If you want access it from Windows, I would recommend fat32.
[03:40] <Snake__> viator: I stopped suggesting that when someone came to me complaining about how their years of data got screed :)
[03:40] <Snake__> screwed*
[03:40] <viator> lol
[03:40] <stodge> libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libGL.la'
[03:40] <viator> o well
[03:41] <_josh> nothing on this computer is valuable
[03:41] <_josh> just using it for audio
[03:41] <stodge> Any ideas how to fix this?
[03:42] <_josh> nothing happened when i sudo apt-get install qtparted
[03:42] <LeeJunFan> crap, be careful what you open with krita, I didn't even save the image and just lost it.
[03:42] <Emess> hey, im trying to set up openSSH authentication with pub/priv keys, but i dont have the file .ssh/authorized_keys2 on the box, am i meant to make it or do i need to dl it?
[03:42] <viator> nvidia
[03:42] <viator> problem?
[03:42] <LeeJunFan> Emess: make it
[03:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> _josh: Have you enabled multiverse/universe?
[03:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> It's in my repos
[03:42] <LeeJunFan> Emess: just put the pub keys in you wish to be able to log in.
[03:42] <_josh> oh, lol not yet
[03:42] <_josh> haven't gotten that far
[03:42] <_josh> my bad
[03:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> NP
[03:43] <viator> i like krita
[03:43] <Emess> LeeJunFan: its jsut an empty file plaintext that i fill with the pub data?
[03:43] <viator> but im just too used to the gimp
[03:43] <LeeJunFan> viator: I did until I just lost a pic of my kid.
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> Do it, and...try 'sudo apt-get install qtparted' again. ;)
[03:43] <_josh> thanks
[03:43] <LeeJunFan> Emess: yep, just copy your pub key and paste it into that file for each user.
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> Krita has potential, but I still like GIMP better.
[03:44] <Emess> ok, any particular exntension i should give it or its fine without one?
[03:44] <LeeJunFan> CheeseBurgerMan: only thing I don't like about gimp is all the stinking windows on the desktop. Pain to manage that.
[03:44] <LeeJunFan> Emess: no extension just .ssh/authorized_keys
[03:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> LeeJunFan: True, but that's not enough to make me use Krita. :)
[03:44] <Emess> ok, thanks a lot
[03:44] <_josh> cheeseburgerman do i use adept package updater
[03:44] <LeeJunFan> CheeseBurgerMan: true.
[03:44] <LeeJunFan> Emess: np.
[03:44] <_josh> that is the repository prog?
[03:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> _josh: You can use any text editor
[03:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> you just have to run it as root
[03:45] <viator> gimp should use tabs thatsa true
[03:45] <_josh> oh ok
[03:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> 'kdesu [program]  /etc/apt/sources.list'
[03:45] <_josh> how do i get it root?
[03:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> What I just said. :)
[03:45] <Emess> mmm for some reason i need to setup the network on it eery time i boot....
[03:46] <_josh> ok
[03:48] <viator> what ever you doto your network add those lines to etc/network /interfaces
[03:49] <Emess> ?
[03:50] <_josh> cheeseburgerman where do i turn on the universe repositories?
[03:50] <_josh> is that under adept pagage updater?
[03:51] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm
[03:51] <CheeseBurgerMan> not sure, I don't use adept very often
[03:51] <CheeseBurgerMan> Try this 'kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list'
[03:52] <_josh> nothing happens
[03:52] <viator> open the cli
[03:53] <viator> and do sudo nano /etc/sources.list
[03:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, then listen to viator, I don't use nano. :P
[03:53] <_josh> cli?
[03:53] <viator> konsole
[03:53] <viator> commandline
[03:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> command line interface, aka conosle
[03:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> console*
[03:53] <_josh> ok
[03:54] <stephenkl> Can someone tell me what the optimum size for one's root partition should be?
[03:54] <_josh> is that the terminal or run console
[03:54] <viator> same thing
[03:55] <_josh> ok
[03:55] <dumbkiwi> stephenkl: Depends on what other partitions you intend having
[03:55] <_josh> still nothing happens
[03:55] <viator> you can type konsole
[03:55] <viator> from the run command box
[03:55] <_josh> i have konsole open
[03:55] <viator> ok
[03:55] <_josh> i type in sudo nano /etc/sources.list and nothing happens
[03:55] <viator> typ cd /etc/apt
[03:56] <stephenkl> dumbkiwi: I'm using a separate /home, is that what you mean?
[03:56] <_josh> nothing
[03:56] <stephenkl> I want to know how much space i need for the OS, not my /home stuff
[03:56] <_josh> does adept have to be closed?
[03:56] <viator> does iot show
[03:56] <viator> your in the apt dir
[03:56] <viator> now
[03:57] <emmakelley> Hi
[03:57] <viator> next to your cursor there
[03:57] <emmakelley> Hi
[03:57] <viator> yes
[03:57] <_josh> i am confused
[03:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> _josh: Close Adept, Open Konsole, and paste in 'sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list' (don't paste the quotes)
[03:57] <dumbkiwi> stephenkl: I'd say 10GB to be safe
[03:57] <_josh> what am i looking for
[03:57] <emmakelley> kubuntu is cool
[03:57] <viator> dont be confused
[03:57] <viator> your looking for a file
[03:57] <viator> the files name is sources.list
[03:57] <stephenkl> dumbkiwi: ok
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> emmakelley: Yep, that's why we use it. :)
[03:58] <viator> you can only edit it as root or as a sudoer
[03:58] <stephenkl> yeah dapper seems to use about 5 gigs
[03:58] <emmakelley> yeah
[03:59] <_josh> I did that
[03:59] <_josh> now what
[03:59] <emmakelley> edubuntu is cool to
[03:59] <emmakelley> But in schoo; they use windows
[03:59] <emmakelley> school
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> _josh: what did you do? DId you paste the command?
[04:00] <_josh> yes
[04:00] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK.
[04:00] <_josh> it did something
[04:00] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yes
[04:00] <CheeseBurgerMan> It opened the /etc/apt/sources.list in vi
[04:00] <CheeseBurgerMan> which is a console text editor
[04:00] <_josh> ok
[04:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, see the lines that have a "#" before "deb" and "deb-src"?
[04:01] <_josh> hold on a min
[04:01] <_josh> some reason my sys is running stuff i typed in like 30min ago
[04:01] <viator> :))
[04:02] <_josh> i must have had a backlog of shit in here
[04:02] <_chris_> hi can someone tell me what repo i can install jre from?
[04:02] <viator> use blackdown
[04:03] <_josh> ok back cheeseburger man
[04:03] <_josh> i got to what u meant
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> hehe, OK
[04:03] <_chris_> eh? can u tell me what to add to sources.list?
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> Now, take out the "#", before all the "deb" and "deb-src" lines.
[04:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> This uncomments them, making it so that apt doesn't ignore them.
[04:05] <_josh> ok
[04:05] <_josh> now what
[04:05] <viator> i have the plf repos
[04:05] <emmakelley> jre?
[04:05] <noteventime> !easysources
[04:05] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime
[04:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, now press escape, and then type it ':wq'
[04:05] <viator> which has alot of extra stuff
[04:05] <noteventime> !easysources
[04:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> emmakelley: Java Runtime Environment
[04:06] <noteventime> !universe
[04:06] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:06] <emmakelley> oh
[04:06] <noteventime> !easysource
[04:06] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:06] <_josh> ok
[04:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> _josh: Now type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install qtparted'
[04:07] <emmakelley> robert?
[04:07] <viator> # Penguin Liberation Front packages not available elsewhere deb ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[04:08] <viator> is helpful :)
[04:08] <_josh> this time it worked
[04:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> :)
[04:08] <viator> if you want libdvdcss2 w32codecs etc etc
[04:08] <_josh> will the formater installed to the programs list then?
[04:08] <_josh> or do i have to call it with a command?
[04:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> Eh?
[04:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> Not sure what you mean by that.
[04:09] <viator> qtparted will show on the list
[04:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh
[04:09] <viator> after you install it
[04:09] <_josh> ok
[04:09] <_josh> thanks
[04:09] <viator> sudo apt-get update
[04:09] <_josh> it is installing now
[04:09] <viator> sudo apt-get install qtparted
[04:09] <viator> o cool
[04:09] <viator> im just used to using the cli for apt
[04:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> As am I. :)
[04:10] <viator> i dont use adept or synaptic
[04:10] <_josh> okj
[04:10] <emmakelley> go on wallpaperstock and you'll get some nice backgrounds form the nature section
[04:11] <viator> goto kdelook
[04:12] <viator> http://www.kde-look.org/
[04:12] <_josh> what category is gtparted in in the menus
[04:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> Look in system
[04:12] <_josh> thanks
[04:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> If not, look in utilities
[04:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> I don't know where it is, that's a guess. :)
[04:12] <emmakelley> Anyone heard of tamagochi v3
[04:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> Not I
[04:13] <_josh> nothing happens when i run qtparted
[04:13] <viator> lol
[04:13] <Massacration> hi
[04:13] <Massacration> everyone
[04:13] <Massacration> good evening
[04:13] <viator> somthing give me the impression josh is having problems
[04:14] <_josh> lol
[04:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hey, Massacration
[04:14] <viator> josh you have an old system
[04:14] <_josh> i just installed it andi can't get it to run
[04:14] <viator> ?
[04:14] <_josh> yeah older
[04:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> _josh: run qtparted from a console.
[04:14] <Massacration> hi cheeseburger
[04:14] <_josh> tried
[04:14] <viator> whats the specs
[04:14] <Massacration> nice to see u again
[04:14] <_josh> 400mhz
[04:14] <_josh> 128mb ram
[04:14] <viator> yeah
[04:14] <viator> well
[04:14] <viator> itsll tak a min
[04:14] <_josh> ok
[04:14] <_josh> everythign else runs fine
[04:15] <Massacration> is there anyway to update de brezy5.10 to the new dapper?
[04:15] <viator> think about this vista to run with all the eyecandy at a DECENT rate you need a gig of ram
[04:16] <noiesmo> Massacration, yes but may break your system you need to change the breezy to dapper in sources.list file then apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:16] <Massacration> vista wil scuk
[04:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> viator: I tried vista, it ran at a decent rate with 512MB of RAM
[04:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> With the default eyecandy at least, I didn't check to see if there was more.
[04:16] <viator> i would say 512 minimum
[04:16] <Massacration> I updated from kubuntu 5.0.4 to 5.1.0 and worked fine
[04:17] <viator> that might be what it says on their packaging when released
[04:17] <McScruff> i have used so many os's and i have now stuck to kubuntu as main os on pc and lappy both dueling with winxp
[04:17] <Massacration> I think vista won't be any different
[04:17] <Massacration> from XP
[04:17] <Massacration> which sucks
[04:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> Massacration: This is only a beta - it's not the final product. It broke on Flight 6, don't know if it does with the new beta.
[04:18] <viator> its prettier and has some features that make it a little more secure
[04:18] <Massacration> that's ok i ll not update...
[04:18] <Massacration> but it's still based on ms dos
[04:19] <McScruff> Massacration: you say xp sucks but i cant go without it, if i dont duel boot i still need it in a vm
[04:19] <Massacration> off course me neither...
[04:19] <viator> what do you run in windows
[04:19] <Massacration> i wish i could
[04:19] <McScruff> i run many windows only tools
[04:19] <Massacration> I work with softwares made in C# .net
[04:19] <McScruff> like nintendo ds homebrew stuff
[04:20] <m5m> Does anyone here run fetchmail and have a clue what might be preventing it to delivering mail locally via system smtp???
[04:20] <viator> mono
[04:20] <viator> :)
[04:20] <Massacration> say mono to my boss and he will laugh
[04:20] <viator> you mean ya snag games :P
[04:20] <m5m> I'm getting fetchmail error "SMTP connect to localhost failed
[04:21] <Massacration> they don't wanna port anything to linux
[04:21] <viator> ofcourse not mass
[04:21] <viator> cause they are BRAINWASHED
[04:21] <Massacration> 'cause they don't have any client demand
[04:21] <viator> lol
[04:21] <viator> well i see that
[04:21] <Massacration> nothing to fo with brainwash
[04:21] <McScruff> also i need windows for the 1 thing i cnat live without "Football manager 2006" and i dont want to ruin it by useing wine
[04:21] <Massacration> money is the word
[04:22] <Massacration> small company
[04:22] <Massacration> www.mobiltec.com.br
[04:22] <emmakelley> McScruff: Don't use wine
[04:22] <viator> i dont know why in 2006 there windows only or linux only or mac only executables
[04:22] <Massacration> why}?
[04:22] <Massacration> is there any fix for that?
[04:23] <Massacration> multiplataform exe?
[04:23] <viator> everything should be univeral not making calls for things that are only on certain os's
[04:23] <Emess> my inet config keeps resetting when i reboot, so i  have to reconfigure my network every time i boot, is there a way to make it stay?
[04:23] <Massacration> universal libs?
[04:23] <viator> somthing like that yes
[04:23] <Massacration> like java
[04:24] <viator> or atleast an improved java
[04:24] <viator> yep
[04:24] <Massacration> yeah java is still too slow
[04:24] <Massacration> vista won't be based on .NET anymore, is this true?
[04:24] <viator> dunno
[04:25] <Massacration> why can't I run 2 audios at the same time in kubuntu? this really pisses me off
[04:28] <_josh> would qtparted not run if i need updates from adept
[04:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> _josh: I'm not sure why qtpared isn't running.
[04:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> Try running it in a console, and pastebin the output.
[04:29] <_josh> should i try reinstalling it?
[04:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> No
[04:29] <_josh> i try to run through console too
[04:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> Did you get an error?
[04:30] <viator> close everything EXCEPT irc
[04:30] <_josh> no, nothing
[04:30] <McScruff> Massacration: audio thing is something to do with arts
[04:30] <viator> f-arts
[04:30] <_josh> i even look in the task manager thing and nothing runs when i run it
[04:30] <viator> lol
[04:30] <viator> im asking you is anything else open?
[04:31] <viator> running
[04:31] <_josh> just this
[04:31] <viator> or
[04:31] <viator> for fun in the console try sudo qtparted
[04:31] <_josh> are there any tasks that would prevent qtparted from working
[04:32] <viator> not really
[04:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> Try running it in the console, and pastebin the output
[04:32] <viator> is this a live cd josh or a hd install?
[04:32] <_josh> hdinstall
[04:32] <_josh> it ran now
[04:32] <_josh> why wont it run from the menu?
[04:32] <viator> it was a permission prob
[04:33] <Massacration> arts? but its installed correctly
[04:33] <_josh> how do i get my account to have all permissions?
[04:33] <McScruff> like root ?
[04:33] <_josh> yeah i guess
[04:33] <McScruff> you do know thats not a good idea
[04:33] <_josh> i want my user account to have all permissions
[04:33] <_josh> i dont care
[04:34] <_josh> i am the only user
[04:34] <viator> ya cant run as root in kubuntu
[04:34] <viator> chmod
[04:34] <viator> the file
[04:34] <McScruff> stick yourself in the root group
[04:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> viator: Yes you can. sudo -i
[04:34] <_josh> so how do i go about running things that need root
[04:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> kdesu <app>
[04:34] <viator> well yes
[04:34] <viator> but
[04:34] <McScruff> sudo kcontrol
[04:34] <_josh> sudo kcontrol
[04:34] <McScruff> &run kcontrol as root
[04:35] <viator> theres no "login"  from kdm
[04:35] <viator> :P
[04:35] <_josh> k
[04:35] <McScruff> sudo will run wiith root privs
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> viator: True
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> But you can go to a console login, and then use sudo -i, and then run 'startx'
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> :P
[04:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> Generally though, you don't need to run as root, so it's not a big deal anyway. ;)
[04:36] <viator> yep
[04:36] <viator> i can login to from kdm as root though
[04:36] <_josh> i just have to remember to run anythign from the console with sudo to run it if i need it to run in root?
[04:36] <viator> Linux mepis1 2.6.15-20-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Apr 6 13:43:48 EDT 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> _josh: Generally if it's a GUI app, you should use kdesu
[04:37] <_josh> ok
[04:37] <viator> with dapper as my base :)
[04:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> I'm still on breezy, and plan to stay that way until Dapper final is out. :)
[04:38] <McScruff> CheeseBurgerMan: both my machines are on dapper
[04:38] <McScruff> lappy and desktop
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> Well, mine's not. :)
[04:39] <viator> im using mepis 6.0
[04:39] <McScruff> i was on that
[04:39] <McScruff> Sysinfo for 'Laptop': Linux 2.6.15-20-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Intel(R)Celeron(R)Mprocessor1.40GHz at 1396 MHz (2795 bogomips), , RAM: 416/496MB, 83 proc's, 1.45h up
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> System Information for    [ kworld ] 
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> OS/Kernel                 Linux 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> CPU Info                  AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-28 797.726 Mhz   1568.76 Bogomips
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> HD Info                   80GB total storage capacity
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> Memory                    240.457/462.977MB
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> Processes                 90
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> Uptime                    2 days
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> That's an annoying amount of lines. :\
[04:40] <McScruff> lol
[04:40] <McScruff> its been updated :)
[04:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[04:40] <viator> not thewhats the command for sys info again?
[04:40] <McScruff>  - /sysinfo
[04:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> /sysinfo
[04:40] <McScruff> for konversation anyway
[04:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> yeah, I don't remember what you do for irssi. :P
[04:41] <Massacration> is there anyway to knemo shows when you disconnect your pc from the network, like windows does?
[04:41] <viator> nope not for xcha
[04:41] <viator> t
[04:42] <Massacration> xcha?
[04:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> xchat
[04:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> viator: I don't think that xchat has it
[04:43] <Massacration> which program do you use to visualize your network activities?
[04:43] <Massacration> I use Knemo...
[04:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> I don't use any. :P
[04:44] <Massacration> is ther anyway to install gnome in kubuntu?
[04:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:45] <Massacration> and how do i start it? which gui will strt first?
[04:45] <Massacration> which other gui could i use with kubuntu?
[04:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> You get to choose
[04:52] <apricot> file browser in kubuntu?
[04:53] <stephenkl> Damn, I forgot how to tell KDE how to change focus rules
[04:53] <stephenkl> anyone remember?
[04:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> apricot: Konqueror
[04:53] <stephenkl> I know it's in kcontrol somewhere
[04:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> stephenkl: I'm not sure
[04:55] <apricot> ok, can i import contacts from thunderbird to Kontact?
[04:57] <apricot> thunderbird want start, why is that?
[04:57] <devin__> is the kubuntu LTS dapper drake pretty stable?
[04:57] <McScruff> [03:57]  <apricot> thunderbird want start, why is that? <<want typo for wont?
[04:58] <apricot> wont
[04:59] <McScruff> open a konsole and goto start it , it will give an error
[05:04] <apricot> ?
[05:19] <viator> Sysinfo for 'mepis1': Linux 2.6.15-20-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMD Athlon at 1222 MHz (2447 bogomips), HD: 2/69GB, RAM: 491/502MB, 102 proc's, 3.4d up
[05:30] <canllaith> Hi, I'm having a bit of a problem where suspend-to-ram only works in gnome and not in KDE
[05:31] <DeadS0ul> you acutally got that working in linux?
[05:31] <canllaith> Works flawlessly in gnome and it used to work on KDE until I upgraded from breezy to dapper
[05:31] <canllaith> Now it only works in gnome
[05:31] <canllaith> This laptop has a great ACPI compliant bios
[05:32] <DeadS0ul> ah
[05:36] <canllaith> So if I hit fn f4 in gnome, the laptop goes to sleep. In KDE nothing happens.
[05:36] <canllaith> If I select 'sleep' from the gnome logout dialog, the laptop goes to sleep.
[05:36] <canllaith> but if I right click on klaptop icon and select 'suspend' once again nothing happens
[05:36] <canllaith> This worked fine in breezy until I upgraded to dapper yesterday
[05:40] <canllaith> k, and if I manually run klaptop-acpi-helper it sleeps fine :(
[05:41] <DeadS0ul> are there any packages you might be missing?
[05:42] <canllaith> I don't think so
[05:43] <DeluxXx> hm weird after i updated i cant listen to music anymore without being an admin
[05:43] <crimsun> DeluxXx: is your user still in the audio group?
[05:43] <DeadS0ul> DeluxXx: add your user account to the audio group
[05:44] <DeluxXx> where do i add it to the audiogroup ?
[05:44] <DeadS0ul> open up kuser
[05:44] <DeadS0ul> click on the groups tab
[05:44] <DeadS0ul> look for the audio group, and check if your user name is there
[05:45] <DeluxXx> hm looks like im in there
[05:46] <crimsun> DeluxXx: pastebin ``ls -l /dev/snd''
[05:48] <DeluxXx> sudo pastebin ``ls -l /dev/snd''
[05:48] <DeluxXx> sudo: pastebin: command not found
[05:48] <crimsun> !pastebin
[05:48] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[05:48] <DeluxXx> ah srry =)
[05:49] <DeadS0ul> he's asking you to check the permissions of your sound devices ..do ls -l /dev/snd and check the group and permissions your sound devices are assigned
[05:49] <DeluxXx> ok =)
[05:49] <DeadS0ul> =)
[05:50] <DeluxXx> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12759
[05:51] <DeadS0ul> seems right
[05:52] <DeadS0ul> hmm. ..you can play sound files are root, or using sudo, but you can't when you're a user?
[05:53] <crimsun> DeluxXx: pastebin ``lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*''
[05:53] <DeadS0ul> he did that
[05:53] <DeadS0ul> oh no he didn't =|
[05:55] <DeluxXx> srry
[05:55] <DeluxXx> wait a sec
[05:55] <canllaith> ok, I know where it's fouling up now.
[05:55] <DeadS0ul> where?
[05:55] <canllaith> when I suspend from the gui the suspend is hanging when it calls dcop kded for some reason
[05:56] <DeadS0ul> ah
[05:56] <DeadS0ul> might as well submit a bug report.
[06:01] <DeadS0ul> dammit juk doesn't query musicbrainz anymore
[06:03] <DeluxXx> srry guys my http ports get blocked at 12 and i just wanted to send the stuff on pastebin
[06:03] <DeluxXx> can i paste it ?
[06:04] <robotgeek> DeluxXx: yeah, put it on pastebin
[06:04] <DeluxXx> cant
[06:05] <robotgeek> DeluxXx: use #flood
[06:06] <DeluxXx> k i pasted it
[06:06] <crimsun> DeluxXx: what error do you get with ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''?
[06:07] <DeluxXx> aplay: test_wavefile:726: can't play not PCM-coded WAVE-files
[06:07] <crimsun> hmm, you have more serious issues
[06:07] <DeluxXx> hm sounds great ^^
[06:07] <crimsun> ``lsmod''
[06:07] <DeadS0ul> what happens when you try that as root?
[06:08] <DeluxXx> you mean lsmod or aplay .. ?
[06:08] <DeadS0ul> aplay
[06:08] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:08] <DeadS0ul> heh wahs't you make him pase
[06:08] <Hobbsee> clearly that was a long flood
[06:09] <DeadS0ul> paste
[06:09] <Hobbsee> huh?
[06:09] <DeadS0ul> what did you make him paste even
[06:09] <DeadS0ul> ahh..nm..need a drink..bbs
[06:09] <Hobbsee> i dont know....i didnt ask anything
[06:11] <_josh> cheeseburgerman, i can't get qtparted to format my drive
[06:12] <_josh> and i am using the kdesu to open it
[06:12] <_josh> it runs, but i can't get it to format a drive
[06:12] <DeadS0ul> that nick always makes me hungry
[06:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> _josh: What happens?
[06:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> DeadS0ul: You have now noticed the power of the CheeseBurgerMan of Steel!
[06:13] <_josh> it opens, but it has the options for deleting and formating greyed out
[06:13] <DeadS0ul> until cheeseburgermanwithmushrooms and his bro cheeseburgermanwithbacon come along
[06:13] <_josh> and i am using kdesu to open it
[06:14] <_josh> in console
[06:14] <stephenkl> !fonts
[06:14] <ubotu> fonts is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[06:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> _josh: I'm not sure why, to be honest.
[06:15] <_josh> when i first opened it the first time there was an option to format and delete, but now the option is gone
[06:16] <_josh> it isnt asking me for my root password anymore
[06:16] <temifowl> hey a quick one, how do i open sources.list again :P
[06:16] <DeadS0ul> vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:17] <temifowl> thanks :D
[06:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> You can't edit it unless you're root. :)
[06:17] <temifowl> ya lol
[06:24] <temifowl> hey anyone know if theres another way to get flash player then dling it?
[06:30] <robotgeek> temifowl, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:33] <temifowl> thanks
[06:47] <stephenkl> Can someone tell me how to get the little katapult icon in my taskbar
[06:47] <stephenkl> so I can right click and configure it
[06:48] <Hobbsee> stephenkl: alt+f2, katapult, ctrl+c
[06:54] <stephenkl> Hobbsee: oh wow thx
[06:54] <Hobbsee> stephenkl: not a problem :)
[07:19] <dumbkiwi> Does anyone have the audiocd:/ kio-slave running on konqueror.  I just get 100% cpu usage, and nothing else
[07:33] <tiglionabbit> hello
[07:35] <tiglionabbit> I'm new to kubuntu, so I have a few questions.  First of all, konsole is chopping off the ends of letters like m that go outside the box...  how can I change the font so it doens't do that?
[07:38] <tiglionabbit> oh, fixed it.  Secondly, it didn't install properly.  After installing 84% of the packages after the restart, it said some didn't install properly and I may experience problems, and that I'd have to fix this manually
[07:38] <tiglionabbit> how do I fix something like that?
[07:42] <tyler> Whats the command for print screen in Kubuntu
[07:45] <robotgeek> tyler: press the print screen button (in dapper), otherwise install ksnapshot
[07:45] <Hobbsee> tiglionabbit: sudo dpkg-configure -a i think
[08:01] <mzinz> how do i register my nickname
[08:03] <Emess>  /nickserv register password
[08:04] <mzinz> Emess: it says the beta for dapper came out.. would u advise people to get it or to wait for the final? or any clue?
[08:05] <Emess> me? id wait for the full distro, but im pretty new to k/ubuntu
[08:05] <mzinz> ya
[08:12] <tiglionabbit> why doesn't kubuntu include kynaptic?
[08:13] <robotgeek> tiglionabbit: cause you have adept
[08:14] <Emess> why doesnt kubuntu include slackware?
[08:15] <robotgeek> Emess: oh, apt-get install it :P
[08:16] <barby> dapper-beta?
[08:16] <barby> O_o
[08:17] <barby> boy
[08:17] <barby> i've a problem
[08:17] <barby> i start kubuntu
[08:17] <crimsun> robotgeek: emacs install slackware? :p
[08:17] <robotgeek> crimsun: parse error :)
[08:17] <barby> arriving to cheecking root file system
[08:18] <barby> and doesn't find it
[08:21] <tiglionabbit> dwarg adept's hanging on me
[08:22] <ice_1963> i use synaptic in kde :)
[08:24] <tiglionabbit> does kubuntu use qt4?
[08:24] <robotgeek> tiglionabbit: nope, qt4 is not usable right now
[08:25] <tiglionabbit> not usable?
[08:25] <tiglionabbit> what do you mean by that?  I've used it
[08:25] <robotgeek> tiglionabbit: qt4? are you sure?
[08:25] <tiglionabbit> yes
[08:26] <rohan> and, being on kubuntu dapper beta, i really dont like this "Simplified Konqueror" how do i get back the original one ?
[08:26] <robotgeek> tiglionabbit: well, kubuntu doesn't use (and i don't think it's going to be in dapper +1 even)
[08:27] <robotgeek> rohan: check the faq on www.kubuntu.org
[08:27] <tiglionabbit> hm.  I wonder why not.  It really simplifies things from previous versions, and it's finally free for windows and mac as well-- portability
[08:27] <rohan> robotgeek: hi ! we meet again :)
[08:27] <robotgeek> rohan: hey
[08:27] <rohan> robotgeek: and, that FAQ applies to dapper?
[08:27] <robotgeek> rohan: sure, you could also check for stuff in the Kubuntu Docs in Help menu
[08:28] <rohan> oh, never thought of those, robotgeek , thanks
[08:28] <rohan> robotgeek: :)
[08:30] <rohan> robotgeek: you sure that the original konqueror method is there in kubuntu docs ? then i will fish deeper
[08:30] <robotgeek> rohan: yeah, i think i put it in there
[08:30] <rohan> robotgeek: oh, ok
[08:31] <robotgeek> rohan: it is there in the webbrowsing section
[08:32] <rohan> robotgeek: aha, thanks.. i was waiting for you ;)
[08:32] <tiglionabbit> grr.  Adept lets me mark incompatible changes and then just fails when I try to install them
[08:32] <rohan> How do I change Konqueror back to the default KDE profiles?
[08:33] <rohan> :D
[08:33] <tiglionabbit> but it never tells me they're not going to work beforehand
[08:34] <rohan> robotgeek: that didnt do it, do i need to logout and back in kde ?
[08:35] <robotgeek> rohan: not sure, probably not
[08:36] <rohan> :(
[08:38] <rohan> hmm.. kubuntu has got konqi to look like ff :D
[08:42] <rohan> robotgeek: nevermind, silly joke.
[08:47] <rohan> ah, no k3b-mp3 packages ?
[08:52] <rohan> err.. how do i select which locales to generate ? dpkg-reconfigure locales does not give the list, as it used to, in older ubuntu 5.10
[08:57] <rohan> hmm.. how do i configure what locales to generate ?
[09:04] <TheChronoTrigger> does anyone have experience with sendmail? I'm trying to get php to have mail support, and it seems to need sendmail. I've tried installing send mail, but it keeps failing. Anyone have any ideas?
[09:05] <robotgeek> TheChronoTrigger: maybe php-mail package needs to be installed, i am not sure
[09:06] <TheChronoTrigger> hmm.. I'll check.. thanks
[09:09] <wawb> Heya, how do I setup users/dirs for vsftp?
[09:11] <rohan> aha, on dapper the konsole icon is broken
[09:11] <rohan> the small icon shown in menus
[09:12] <Hobbsee> rohan: why broken?
[09:12] <Hobbsee> well, how broken?
[09:12] <rohan> does not show
[09:12] <rohan> i set my panel size to small
[09:13] <rohan> and added the konsole application
[09:13] <rohan> and even in the menus, the icon shows a black
[09:13] <rohan> *blank
[09:13] <rohan> the big 48x48 icon is fine
[09:13] <rohan> the smaller one is broken, i think
[09:14] <rohan> whats the package that provides the "crystal" icon set ?
[09:15] <rohan> on kubuntu dapper ofcourse :P
[09:16] <Hobbsee> rohan: apt-cache search crystal
[09:17] <rohan> why didnt they name the icon set Krystal ? then it would have been unique
[09:18] <Hobbsee> upstream is named crystal
[09:18] <rohan> whoa! there is no package for kde-icons-crystal on the cd of kubuntu dapper text install
[09:18] <Hobbsee> !info kde-icons-crystal dapper
[09:18] <ubotu> kde-icons-crystal: (Crystal icon theme for KDE), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 3.7-2 (dapper), Packaged size: 1521 kB, Installed size: 3412 kB
[09:19] <Hobbsee> universe, yeah
[09:20] <DeadS0ul1`> yeah i foudn it too hehe
[09:20] <DeadS0ul1`> thank god for apt-cache search
[09:20] <DeadS0ul1`> i remember my rpmfind days
[09:26] <rohan> but from where is the kubuntu install getting the crystal icons ?
[09:27] <DeadS0ul> what do you mean?
[09:27] <DeadS0ul> from where...?
[09:31] <rohan> robotgeek: oh, well konqui is fine after restarting kde
[09:33] <rohan> :o koffice 1.5 will not make it to dapper officially ?
[09:33] <Hobbsee> rohan: it may
[09:34] <rohan> Hobbsee: then why the unofficial pkgs on kubuntu.org ? for people who cant wait ?
[09:35] <crimsun> packages on kubuntu.org are _official_
[09:35] <Hobbsee> rohan: there's a main inclusion report in at the moment, IIRC
[09:35] <Hobbsee> they're waiting to see if they will be included in
[09:35] <rohan> crimsun: yes, i just said that.
[09:35] <crimsun> it's probably the one exception to the archive.u.c rule
[09:36] <Hobbsee> crimsun: which rule is that?
[09:36] <crimsun> rohan: you did?
[09:36] <Hobbsee> oh...yeah...
[09:36] <Hobbsee> about official packages, yeah
[09:36] <rohan> crimsun: yes.
[09:36] <rohan> 13:04 < rohan> Hobbsee: then why the unofficial pkgs on kubuntu.org ? for people who cant wait ?
[09:36] <Hobbsee> rohan: unofficial is not the same as official
[09:36] <crimsun> sorry, but I only see "unofficial" whereas I'm referring to official
[09:37] <rohan> oh, sorry, my mistakte in reading.
[09:37] <Hobbsee> :P
[09:45] <ecker> has anyone ever gotten this error. kubuntu A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: divxc32.dll     This is a new install of dapper drake kubuntu and im getting the error in kaffeine
[10:06] <n3storm> hi everyone
[10:06] <ecker> Hello
[10:37] <rohan> if i have a file, how can i find which package does it belong to ?
[10:38] <smoosh> hi. how can hi speed up my dvd player? hdparm don't work fine...
[10:39] <dumbkiwi> Does anyone have the audiocd:/ kio-slave running on konqueror.  I just get 100% cpu usage, and nothing else
[10:40] <rohan> is there some way i can tell apt to install the dependencies of a package, but not the pkg itself ? (not build-dep, just runtime deps)
[10:43] <smoosh> dumbkiwi: yes, but mine don't use 100% cpu..
[10:58] <smoosh> how can i spped up my dvd player, hdparam work only if i run cdda2wav....
[11:00] <cfraz89> hi
[11:09] <tvo> rohan, dpkg -S for finding out to which package a file belongs
[11:09] <tvo> oops he left already :/
[11:20] <Mastus> Good morning everyone, and could you help me a bit... Is this a mission impossible: fglrx (using Radeon 9550se) and tv-out?
[11:25] <cossidhon> Is there a way to disable all popup messages from knetworkmanager?
[11:26] <cfraz89> i havent found one yet
[11:27] <cfraz89> i have been looking too
[11:27] <cossidhon> It's distracting me
[11:34] <chx> hi. i have a strange problem, which irks me ever since my desktop runs Linux. Internet browsing is not 'smooth'. With IE, I click a page and it's there. Under Opera/FF/Konqueror there is a visbile wait. It's quite possible that the time from click to full page is the same, but it feels slower :(
[11:35] <cfraz89> its annoying when you log in to get flooded with popups
[11:35] <cfraz89> chx, maybe you could try increasing the cache size?
[11:35] <chx> And this is definitely ISP related, I have two ISPs (one cable, one wifi) and I get the same from both.
[11:35] <cfraz89> i think ie uses lots of cache by default
[11:36] <chx> mmmm
[11:36] <cfraz89> konqueror uses 5
[11:36] <cfraz89> which isnt much
[11:36] <chx> Opera uses 20
[11:36] <chx> of disk cache
[11:36] <chx> i upped to 400
[11:36] <chx> we shall see
[11:37] <cfraz89> ok
[11:39] <Mastus> I wonder whether is possible to "Force TV detection" in xorg.conf?
[11:42] <smoosh> hdparam setting are enabled only after that i've run cdda2wav.... how can i fix this?
[11:42] <cfraz89> ?
[11:44] <smoosh> i can extract a cd audio tracks at max speed with kaudio, only if first run cdcd2wav from console...
[11:45] <cfraz89> hmm
[11:45] <cfraz89> you can use sudo hdparm -D 1 /dev/cdrom
[11:45] <cfraz89> you can edit /etc/hdparm.conf
[11:46] <cfraz89> for setting on boot
[11:46] <smoosh> cfraz89: it's already set, and the dma is enabled...
[11:47] <DeadS0ul> there's an /etc/hdparm.conf that runs at boot time
[11:47] <smoosh> DeadS0ul: yes
[11:47] <cfraz89> have you set it up?
[11:47] <smoosh> cfraz89: yes
[11:47] <cfraz89> ok
[11:48] <cfraz89> so you get dma on boot, but not max speed ripping?
[11:48] <DeadS0ul> i don't hink i have, i'm gonna try it out
[11:49] <DeadS0ul> hahah sweet
[11:49] <cfraz89> maybe you could just put cdda2wav in your kde autostart
[11:49] <smoosh> cfraz89: yes, the dma is on, but i got max speed ripping only first i run "cdda2wav with paramiters" from console
[11:50] <cfraz89> hmm
[11:50] <cfraz89> maybe you could make it do that every time you logind
[11:50] <cfraz89> put the cdda2wav command in .kde/Autostart
[11:50] <smoosh> cfraz89: ok, i'll try
[11:50] <cfraz89> that way you dont have to do it manually
[11:51] <cfraz89> what command would it be?
[11:51] <cfraz89> because my cd ripping is soooo sloooowwww
[11:52] <smoosh> i've uset this: "cdda2wav -D /dev/hda -x -d0 -t1" -t1 is for extract the first track only...
[11:52] <cfraz89> so you actually have to rip a track?
[11:53] <smoosh> cfraz89: yes, but with cdca2wav all work fine...
[11:54] <cfraz89> hmm
[11:54] <cfraz89> do you tell kaudiocreator doesnt work max speed because it is slow?
[11:55] <smoosh> cfraz89: yes, but when i run cdda2wav, also kaudiocreator is speed...
[11:55] <cfraz89> i think cdda2wav sets the drive speed
[11:56] <cfraz89> you should be able to do the same with hdparm
[11:56] <cfraz89> hdparm -E
[11:57] <smoosh> cfraz89: i understand... great...
[11:57] <cfraz89> i hope its right
[11:57] <cfraz89> im not sure how you would set it from /etc/hdparm.conf
[11:58] <cfraz89> but i think your drive should be set to max speed at boot anyway shouldnt it?
[11:58] <smoosh> cfraz89: now i try to set the speed in hdparm.conf and reboot... and then i let you know if it work or not...
[11:59] <cfraz89> ok
[12:04] <smoosh> cfraz89: no, it don't work :(
[12:04] <Mastus> reboot ->
[12:07] <cfraz89> hmm
[12:07] <cfraz89> smoosh, how did you set it in hdparm.conf?
[12:08] <smoosh> cfraz89: command_line {
[12:09] <smoosh> cfraz89: hdparm -E52 -d1 /dev/hda
[12:09] <smoosh> cfraz89: }
[12:09] <cfraz89> does that work?
[12:09] <smoosh> cfraz89: no :(
[12:09] <cfraz89> i mean can you actually do that
[12:09] <cfraz89> is it legal
[12:10] <smoosh> yes, but i don't understand why it don't work...
[12:12] <lackdiant_> hi, before having my kubuntu dapper i had a debian and i could print perfectly, but now i'm trying to configure my epson stylus and kubuntu doesn't want to install it
[12:12] <lackdiant_> i don't know what packages i need
[12:13] <cfraz89> hmm
[12:13] <cfraz89> lackdiant_:  the default install should support it
[12:13] <cfraz89> what happens when you try to isntall it?
[12:13] <lackdiant_> ok one moment
[12:14] <lackdiant_> kcontrol recognise my printer
[12:14] <lackdiant_> it appears the controller in the list
[12:14] <cfraz89> controller?
[12:15] <lackdiant_> well, my english is not perfect :P
[12:15] <cfraz89> sorry
[12:15] <lackdiant_> when i select my printer
[12:15] <cfraz89> ok
[12:15] <cfraz89> in printers, it shows up?
[12:15] <lackdiant_> an error appears
[12:16] <cfraz89> about connecting to cups?
[12:16] <lackdiant_> saying me there's no driver or i don't have permission
[12:16] <lackdiant_> i'm trying on cups, in kcontrol
[12:17] <cfraz89> peripherals->Printers ?
[12:17] <lackdiant_> yes
[12:17] <lackdiant_> i tried also on localhost:631 but it doesn't accept my password
[12:17] <cfraz89> hmm
[12:17] <lackdiant_> the error that appears (in spanish) is: Imposible cargar el controlador solicitado:
[12:17] <lackdiant_> Imposible crear el controlador Foomatic [Epson-Stylus_Color_670,gimp-print] . O bien el controlador no existe, o usted no dispone de los permisos necesarios para realizar esa operacin.
[12:17] <cfraz89> so as soon as you go to printers you get error?
[12:18] <lackdiant_> no
[12:18] <lackdiant_> only in the last dialog
[12:18] <lackdiant_> when i select a driver
[12:18] <cfraz89> hmm
[12:18] <cfraz89> are you in the group lpadmin?
[12:18] <lackdiant_> it seems there aren't these drivers
[12:18] <cfraz89> and administrators?
[12:18] <lackdiant_> mmmmm maybe not
[12:18] <lackdiant_> sorry
[12:18] <cfraz89> its ok
[12:18] <lackdiant_> when i do these operations i'm admin
[12:19] <lackdiant_> because i press the root button before configuring the printer
[12:19] <cfraz89> it shouldnt matter
[12:19] <lackdiant_> aha
[12:19] <cfraz89> as long as you are in lpadmin group
[12:20] <lackdiant_> i think i'm not in that group
[12:20] <cfraz89> i hope thats it
[12:20] <cfraz89> i could be wrong
[12:20] <lackdiant_> well, how can i do it
[12:20] <lackdiant_> in kuser
[12:21] <cfraz89> click on your user
[12:21] <cfraz89> and press modify
[12:21] <lackdiant_> ok
[12:21] <lackdiant_> these are my secondary groups
[12:21] <lackdiant_> adm, admin, audio, cdrom, dialout, dip, floppy, lpadmin, plugdev, scanner, video
[12:22] <lackdiant_> lpadmin appears :P
[12:23] <cfraz89> hmm
[12:23] <cfraz89> so you are in it
[12:23] <cfraz89> hmmmmm
[12:23] <cfraz89> i was thinking
[12:23] <cfraz89> is there a gutenprint version of the driver?
[12:25] <smoosh> cfraz89: bye :)
[12:25] <lackdiant_> one moment
[12:26] <cfraz89> cya
[12:27] <lackdiant_> yes
[12:27] <lackdiant_> there's one
[12:27] <cfraz89> try that?
[12:28] <cfraz89> its gimp-print 5.0
[12:28] <lackdiant_> EPSON Stylus Color 670 - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.0.0-rc2 [English] 
[12:28] <cfraz89> it should work better
[12:28] <lackdiant_> but there's no info about this driver
[12:28] <cfraz89> try it
[12:29] <lackdiant_> i press try button
[12:29] <cfraz89> ok
[12:29] <lackdiant_> and window closes
[12:29] <cfraz89> hmm
[12:29] <cfraz89> doesnt sound good
[12:29] <lackdiant_> sigsegv
[12:29] <cfraz89> maybe you could try reinstalling cups
[12:29] <lackdiant_> L in aptitude
[12:33] <lackdiant_> well cfraz89 thanks for your help, i'm trying later :P
[12:34] <cfraz89> ook
[12:34] <cfraz89> sorry i couldnt help
[12:34] <lackdiant_> another question
[12:34] <cfraz89> yep
[12:34] <lackdiant_> i have my registered nick lackdiant but yesterday i had to reboot
[12:34] <cfraz89> yeah
[12:35] <cfraz89> and its still logged on?
[12:35] <lackdiant_> and since then i can't come with this nick
[12:35] <lackdiant_> yes
[12:35] <cfraz89> i think i know what to do
[12:35] <cfraz89> use /msg nickserv reckover lackdiant <password>
[12:35] <cfraz89> sorry, use /msg nickserv recover lackdiant <password>
[12:36] <lackdiant_> ah ok
[12:36] <lackdiant_> jajaja
[12:36] <cfraz89> it should kick lackdiant
[12:37] <lackdiant> ooooooook!
[12:37] <lackdiant> :D
[12:37] <lackdiant> thanks
[12:37] <cfraz89> np
[12:38] <lackdiant> i had to put also /msg NickServ RELEASE lackdiant to release the nickname before the timeout
[12:38] <cfraz89> oh ok
[12:38] <lackdiant> well i log out
[12:38] <lackdiant> thanks
[12:38] <lackdiant> bye!
[12:39] <cfraz89> cya
[12:43] <Mastus> some progress: Added the "ForceMonitors" "CRT, TV" in xorg.conf... and now it detects tv (no picture though)
[12:45] <Mastus> there still must be something missing from xorg.conf...
[12:48] <tiglionabbit> so uh, in kubuntu, how do I get sound to work in games?
[12:48] <tiglionabbit> I can hear amarok, but I can't hear wine or chromium
[12:49] <cfraz89> try killing artsd
[12:49] <tiglionabbit> is there a more elegant solution, involving configuration?  I'll try that first
[12:49] <cfraz89> you can configure to disable arts :)
[12:50] <cfraz89> first make sure its the problem
[12:50] <tiglionabbit> tried killing artsd but no differenc
[12:50] <cfraz89> hmm
[12:50] <cfraz89> is there anything else running which could be using the soundcard?
[12:51] <tiglionabbit> killed stuff and now I can hear it
[12:52] <tiglionabbit> well, i can hear chromium but not wine
[12:52] <cfraz89> hmm
[12:52] <cfraz89> sorry im not too sure about wine
[12:52] <cfraz89> try changing the sound driver?
[12:53] <tiglionabbit> what do you mean and how?
[12:53] <cfraz89> in wine
[12:53] <cfraz89> i think there is a program called winecfg which lets you configure wine
[12:54] <tiglionabbit> on apt?
[12:54] <cfraz89> part of wine i think
[12:55] <tiglionabbit> there's winesetuptk, but it conflicts with my version of wine
[12:55] <cfraz89> nah
[12:55] <cfraz89> hmm
[12:55] <cfraz89> im pretty sure its winecfg
[12:55] <cfraz89> or wineconfig
[12:55] <cfraz89> it comes with the wine source builds at least
[12:56] <tiglionabbit> you sure that's not for before you build it?
[12:56] <cfraz89> yes
[12:56] <cfraz89> its a program for setting wine's settings
[12:56] <cfraz89> like sound and video drivers
[12:56] <tiglionabbit> oh =P I do have it
[12:57] <cfraz89> ah
[12:57] <tiglionabbit> okay it doesn't seem to like me clicking on the audio tab.  Say uh, how do I get my artsd stuff back the way it was?
[12:57] <tiglionabbit> (restart x?)
[12:57] <cfraz89> nah
[12:58] <cfraz89> just run artsd again
[12:58] <tiglionabbit> /etc/init.d/artsd restart ?
[12:58] <cfraz89> jsut artsd
[12:59] <tiglionabbit> really?  It seemed to have quite a few instances before
[12:59] <cfraz89> you might want to lower its timeout so that chromium can get sound
[12:59] <tiglionabbit> how do I do that?
[12:59] <cfraz89> it multithreads when its using the soundcard
[12:59] <cfraz89> in system settings
[12:59] <cfraz89> sound and multimedia
[12:59] <cfraz89> sound system
[01:00] <cfraz89> turn autosuspend down to about 5 seconds
[01:00] <tiglionabbit> okay
[01:00] <tiglionabbit> error while initializing the sound server
[01:00] <cfraz89> oh
[01:01] <cfraz89> maybe should login again
[01:01] <tiglionabbit> yeah..
[01:01] <tiglionabbit> brb
[01:01] <cfraz89> make sure chromium and wine arent running
[01:08] <tiglionabbit> had to do a full restart to get arts working again
[01:08] <cfraz89> oh
[01:08] <cfraz89> sorry
[01:08] <tiglionabbit> and the 5 second delay thing didn't make chromium work
[01:09] <cfraz89> it means that you should be able to play chromium 5 seconds after arts has finished playing a sound
[01:09] <tiglionabbit> oh, it does work then
[01:09] <cfraz89> so either you started chromium before the  seconds of the login sound
[01:09] <tiglionabbit> I guess it was too soon after the startup noise
[01:09] <tiglionabbit> yeah
[01:09] <cfraz89> oh ok
[01:09] <cfraz89> cool
[01:10] <tiglionabbit> can I make that 0 seconds without any problems?
[01:10] <cfraz89> i think 1 is minimum
[01:11] <cfraz89> it should be ok too
[01:11] <tiglionabbit> why don't we use alsa?
[01:11] <cfraz89> chromium doesnt
[01:11] <cfraz89> its kind of old
[01:11] <tiglionabbit> ya
[01:11] <cfraz89> but arts doe
[01:12] <tiglionabbit> I was able to get it to be happy with alsa on my other install-- that one was ubuntu
[01:12] <cfraz89> chromium?
[01:12] <tiglionabbit> yes.  I mean I made everything else alsa and chromium still played sound
[01:13] <cfraz89> maybe it was piped through esd or arts
[01:13] <tiglionabbit> I killed esd I believe =P
[01:13] <cfraz89> if you used 'artsdsp chromium' it will work with alsa
[01:13] <tiglionabbit> oo
[01:13] <cfraz89> but also drop sound quality
[01:13] <tiglionabbit> oh
[01:13] <tiglionabbit> say, how do I get konsole to not do beeps by default?
[01:14] <cfraz89> settings -> bell ->none
[01:14] <tiglionabbit> yeah but it doesn't remember
[01:14] <cfraz89> oh
[01:14] <tiglionabbit> "save as default"?
[01:15] <cfraz89> yeah
[01:15] <tiglionabbit> cool
[01:16] <tiglionabbit> =D!!   Cave Story is working, with sound!  Dig that chip music, yeah
[01:16] <tiglionabbit> wow, that's some bad sound lag though
[01:16] <tiglionabbit> nearly a second late
[01:17] <cfraz89> whats cave story?
[01:18] <tiglionabbit> a really awesomely retro game made by only one person, who goes by "Pixel"
[01:18] <cfraz89> cool
[01:19] <tiglionabbit> you play as a robot who wakes up on this floating island and has to stop the evil doctor from taking over the world with rabit bunnies
[01:19] <tiglionabbit> *rabid
[01:19] <cfraz89> awesome
[01:20] <tiglionabbit> it's so awesome that it has three endings, the latter of which are significantly harder to get
[01:20] <cfraz89> cool its japanese
[01:20] <tiglionabbit> yep
[01:20] <tiglionabbit> unfortunately, I'm not so sure about the emulation here yet..
[01:20] <cfraz89> your running it through wine?
[01:20] <tiglionabbit> I played it on windows
[01:21] <cfraz89> try dosbox
[01:21] <cfraz89> gtg
[01:21] <tiglionabbit> just trying to see if it'll work on linux so I can show it to some linuxy friends
[01:32] <theD3viL> how to save session in kde if i have selected "restore manualy saved season"?
[01:40] <adb> hi, anyone know how to install openoffice 2.0.2 with breezy?
[01:41] <adb> i see dapper has that - so maybe upgrading to dapper would do it
[01:41] <adb> but i do not know how to do that either
[01:41] <tiglionabbit> anyone know how to fix sound delay from certain programs?
[01:45] <bimberi> !ooo2
[01:45] <ubotu> To upgrade to OOo 2.0.x, see http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html (add one of the 'deb' lines to sources.list and update+upgrade)
[01:45] <bimberi> adb: ^^^^ (although it's 2.0.1)
[01:50] <Pupeno> What do I have to do to play a divx, I have installed the gstreamer plug in, yet, kaffeine doesn't play it.
[01:51] <Pupeno> is there some server to re-start ?
[01:52] <adb> ubotu, bimberi: what if i install using the .deb file from the official openoffice.org site?
[01:52] <ubotu> adb: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[01:56] <Pupeno> adb: not recommended.
[01:56] <Mastus> Pupeno: Have you ran gst-register-0.8
[01:57] <noteventime> Is there any way to tunnel all sound in the system through alsa?
[01:57] <noteventime> I mean artS
[01:57] <Pupeno> Mastus: no, is it needed to get the new plug ins to work ?
[01:57] <adb> Pupeno: what might go wrong?
[01:57] <Mastus> Pupeno: Yes. Had the same thing with monkey audio-plugin and Amarok...
[01:57] <Pupeno> adb: at best, it just won't install due to dependency problems.
[01:58] <Pupeno> Mastus: ok, let me see.
[01:58] <adb> Pupeno: how about and upgrage to dapper?
[01:58] <Pupeno> adb: what with an upgrade to dapper ?
[01:58] <LeeJunFan> noteventime: no, but you can use artsdsp per application.
[01:58] <noteventime> I know, hmm, to bad
[01:59] <Pupeno> Mastus: I still can't see the video.
[02:00] <adb> Pupeno: ah, maybe dapper is not what i want - Kubuntu 6.06 LTS  will give me ooo 2.0.2
[02:00] <Mastus> did you sudo the command or ran it as a user?
[02:00] <Pupeno> as a user.
[02:00] <Pupeno> (it worked: Rebuilding user_registry (/home/pupeno/.gstreamer-0.8/registry.xml) ...)
[02:00] <adb> Pupeno: but i need to know how to upgrade a kubuntu installation
[02:00] <jpatrick> adb: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:01] <Pupeno> adb: do whatever you want, but all those paths lead to un-stabilities and problems, be prepare to solve them.
[02:01] <Pupeno> Mastus: even as root, it still doesn't show the video :(
[02:02] <Pupeno> Mastus: nevermind, I'll use the Xine engine for now.
[02:02] <adb> Pupeno: do you know of a web page that shows how to upgrade a kubuntu installation?
[02:02] <jpatrick> Pupeno: xine's better
[02:03] <LeeJunFan> yes, and it's the default engine in dapper too [xine] .
[02:03] <Pupeno> adb: I believe that when Kubuntu is released, upgrade information is released with it.
[02:03] <Pupeno> LeeJunFan: really ?
[02:03] <LeeJunFan> Pupeno: yep.
[02:03] <Pupeno> I know that xine might be better now, but gstreamer seems like a better design.
[02:04] <LeeJunFan> adb: you'd have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list, change any instances of breezy to dapper, and do apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:04] <LeeJunFan> adb: dapper is 6.06, it's in development still, so there may be some problems.
[02:04] <LeeJunFan> Pupeno: I'd say a design that works is better. :p I've never had good luck with gstreamer.
[02:06] <adb> LeeJunFan: i have downloaded a stack of .deb files from the openoffice.org site. what are the chances of them working and how do i get apt to use them?
[02:06] <Pupeno> LeeJunFan: I disagree. Most things working currently are worst designs that things being developed on now... If we stick to what works we would be still using arcane programming languages like C.
[02:06] <jpatrick> adb: "dpkg -i *.deb" them
[02:06] <adb> jpatrick: thanks
[02:07] <LeeJunFan> Pupeno: you mean like the kernel?
[02:07] <Pupeno> oh! we are still using arcane programming languages like C!
[02:08] <Pupeno> Well, some people move forward... at least, most of us are not using Cobol anymore :)
[02:08] <LeeJunFan> adb: you may want to use the --dry-run with dpkg to see if it's all going install correctly.
[02:08] <adb> LeeJunFan: too late :-)
[02:12] <tiglionabbit> omg fixed audio lag using jack
[02:12] <rohan> hi all, i installed kubuntu dapper a few hours back. then kdm was fine. now, it takes like 2 minutes to start it.
[02:13] <rohan> the cursor just shows busy for a long time
[02:13] <rohan> why is kdm lagging so much ?
[02:13] <LeeJunFan> rohan: before you even get to the password prompt?
[02:14] <rohan> LeeJunFan: yes, before i get the password prompt. the screen is all black, and cursor shows the busy cursor
[02:14] <LeeJunFan> rohan: have you changed your hostname? and if so did you change /etc/hosts to reflect 127.0.0.1 as your new hostname?
[02:16] <rohan> LeeJunFan: i used the text install cd, and at time of install set my hostname to the default "ubuntu", and havent changed it since
[02:16] <rohan> wtf!
[02:16] <rohan> the line is etc hosts is -
[02:16] <rohan> 127.0.1.1       ubuntu
[02:17] <rohan> what may have cuased this problem ? and do i change it to "127.0.0.1" ?
[02:17] <LeeJunFan> rohan: which it should be if that's what your hostname is - ubuntu
[02:17] <LeeJunFan> rohan: that is correct for a system with a hostname of ubuntu.
[02:17] <rohan> strange is the fact that i have _never_ touched that file.
[02:18] <rohan> 17:46 < rohan> 127.0.1.1       ubuntu  ----> is correct ? my host name is "ubuntu"
[02:18] <LeeJunFan> rohan: yes, that's right.
[02:18] <LeeJunFan> rohan: but do you also have an entry 127.0.0.1    localhost ?
[02:19] <rohan> LeeJunFan: i dont know, do i remove that line ?
[02:19] <rohan> and there is also all this ipv6 stuff in it .. i dont use ipv6, do i remove all that ?
[02:19] <LeeJunFan> rohan: you should probably have 2 lines starting with 127.0.0.1, one will be prepended to 'localhost' the other will have 'ubuntu'
[02:19] <LeeJunFan> rohan: no, leave that all there.
[02:20] <rohan> LeeJunFan: can you please paste your hosts so that i know ?
[02:20] <LeeJunFan> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/676714
[02:23] <rohan> can someone please paste their /etc/hosts file for me, so that i get the proper layout ?
[02:24] <LeeJunFan> rohan: 127.x.x.x is your local machine. so 127.0.0.1 and 127.0.1.1 reach the same place. 127.0.0.1 should be localhost and 127.0.1.1 should be your hostname.
[02:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> rohan, ip hostname.netowrk hostname
[02:24] <rohan> LeeJunFan: so then my hosts file is correct
[02:24] <LeeJunFan> rohan: follow the above link.
[02:24] <LeeJunFan> rohan: so it seems
[02:24] <rohan> rohan@ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/hosts
[02:24] <rohan> 127.0.0.1       localhost
[02:24] <rohan> 127.0.1.1       ubuntu
[02:25] <LeeJunFan> rohan: yes, that's right. That's not your problem.
[02:25] <rohan> oh, then what do i do for kdm :S
[02:25] <LeeJunFan> rohan: does running 'hostname' tell you your systems name is ubuntu?
[02:25] <rohan> yes its ubuntu
[02:25] <noteventime> !executable
[02:25] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime
[02:25] <rohan> i had got such problem, at that time my lo was no running. now lo is fine
[02:28] <LeeJunFan> rohan: I'm not sure, perhaps the logfiles for kdm or Xorg will have some clues.
[02:28] <rohan> X starts fine ... where are the logfiles for kdm ?
[02:29] <LeeJunFan> rohan: /var/log/kdm.log
[02:30] <rohan> error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[02:30] <rohan> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom No such file or directory.
[02:30] <rohan> i am getting that wacom error repeatedly
[02:30] <LeeJunFan> rohan: do you have a wacom tablet?
[02:30] <rohan> and this is interetsting
[02:30] <rohan> krootimage: WARNING: failed to load SVG file /usr/share/wallpapers/kubuntu-wallpaper.
[02:30] <rohan> svgz
[02:31] <rohan> LeeJunFan: no, its a desktop pc, and i have no tablet.
[02:32] <LeeJunFan> rohan: odd, maybe try changing your wallpaper on the login screen.
[02:32] <rohan> can someone please to "dpkg -S /usr/share/wallpapers/kubuntu-wallpaper.svgz" ?
[02:32] <rohan> LeeJunFan: ^^^
[02:33] <LeeJunFan> rohan: it's part of kubuntu-defaults which I don't have installed here.
[02:33] <rohan> kubuntu-default-settings ?
[02:33] <LeeJunFan> rohan: yeah, that's it I think.
[02:34] <paulvolk> Heloo
[02:34] <paulvolk> I was just wondering what is the diffrence between Xubuntu and Ubuntu?
[02:34] <rohan> also, dapper doesnt have that nifty menu in right click, for installing .debs ?
[02:35] <cfraz89_away> i have it
[02:35] <cfraz89_away> the menu
[02:35] <rohan> paulvolk: Ubuntu uses gnome as main desktop, xubuntu uses xfce
[02:35] <rohan> awww no
[02:35] <rohan> cfraz89_away: :(
[02:35] <cfraz89_away> :?
[02:36] <rohan> cfraz89_away: why is my dapper install so broken
[02:36] <cfraz89_away> is it a fresh install?
[02:36] <rohan> yes.
[02:36] <shogouki> cause its beta ?
[02:36] <cfraz89_away> do you know how it broke?
[02:36] <rohan> cfraz89_away: no.
[02:36] <cfraz89_away> hmmm
[02:36] <paulvolk> I did a fresh install and then I couldn't use adept it wouldn't work. nothing else went wrong except that.
[02:37] <cfraz89_away> i think i figured out the adept errors
[02:37] <rohan> tell me, whats the name of menu, or the menu under which its displayed, for installing .deb;s ?
[02:37] <cfraz89_away> if adept fails to start
[02:37] <paulvolk> How would I fix that?
[02:37] <cfraz89_away> run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' in a terminal
[02:37] <cfraz89_away> its called kubuntu package menu
[02:37] <paulvolk> why did you have the same problem?
[02:38] <rohan> cfraz89_away: awww do you know what package provides it ?
[02:38] <cfraz89_away> ill see if i can find it
[02:38] <rohan> ok, no hurry
[02:38] <cfraz89_away> paulvolk: sometimes i do
[02:38] <paulvolk> oh ok
[02:38] <cfraz89_away> if dpkg needs to ask a question adept will fail
[02:38] <LeeJunFan> rohan: what do you want to bet - kubuntu-default-settings? :)
[02:38] <rohan> LeeJunFan: heh :D
[02:38] <rohan> LeeJunFan: i am reinstalling that on anyway
[02:38] <paulvolk> it should be fixed though by the final release?
[02:38] <cfraz89_away> i dont know
[02:39] <cfraz89_away> if adept isnt upgraded then it wont be
[02:39] <cfraz89_away> they need to make it parse dpkg questions
[02:39] <cfraz89_away> instead of bombing out
[02:39] <paulvolk> That problem better be fixed
[02:39] <paulvolk> I don't want to upgrade to find out that I can't get any updates
[02:39] <paulvolk> like what is the point of that?
[02:40] <paulvolk> lol
[02:40] <cfraz89_away> ewll running that command after adept is done fixes it
[02:40] <adb> LeeJunFan: any quick way to back track and uninstall all the stuff a load of .deb files installed?
[02:40] <rohan> also, is the "konsole" icon missing for you all dapper users, in the menu ? menu -> system -> Terminal program
[02:40] <rohan> is that icon missing ?
[02:40] <cfraz89_away> no
[02:40] <cfraz89_away> wow your install really is messed
[02:40] <cfraz89_away> if i were you id go for a complete kde reinstall
[02:40] <rohan> how ?
[02:41] <rohan> also, cfraz89_away , if you have time, please do "dpkg -S kubuntu-wallpaper.svgz" for me
[02:41] <cfraz89_away> sudo apt-get remove kdebase && sudo-apt get install kdebase ?
[02:41] <cfraz89_away> maybe
[02:41] <cfraz89_away> ok
[02:41] <cfraz89_away> actually dont do that
[02:42] <cfraz89_away> bad idea
[02:42] <cfraz89_away> package not found
[02:43] <cfraz89_away> maybe you should do an apt-get check
[02:43] <cfraz89_away> or reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[02:45] <rohan> maybe i'll just change the wallpaper ;)
[02:45] <cfraz89_away> lol
[02:45] <cfraz89_away> i meant to fix your install
[02:45] <cfraz89_away> well yeh it is kubuntu-default-settings which should give you the package menu
[02:46] <rohan> what does apt-get check do ?
[02:46] <cfraz89_away> checks dependencies
[02:48] <rohan> rohan@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get check
[02:48] <rohan> Reading package lists... Done
[02:48] <rohan> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:48] <rohan> thats all
[02:48] <cfraz89_away> so its ok
[02:48] <paulvolk> How would I start an windows install via Wine off a CD?
[02:48] <rohan> blaa, do i just go format and reinstal this thing ?
[02:48] <cfraz89_away> you shouldnt have to
[02:48] <cfraz89_away> maybe your kde settings are messed up
[02:48] <cfraz89_away> have you tried deleting .kde ?
[02:48] <rohan> then, what do i do about the konsole icon ?
[02:49] <rohan> cfraz89_away: ok, will do that
[02:49] <cfraz89_away> dont delete it
[02:49] <rohan> but first this icon thing
[02:49] <cfraz89_away> just rename it
[02:49] <cfraz89_away> it might help with icon too
[02:49] <cfraz89_away> login again
[02:49] <rohan> cfraz89_away: cant, i use the default icon theme
[02:49] <cfraz89_away> hmm
[02:49] <cfraz89_away> well to fix it right click on kmenu and edit it
[02:49] <cfraz89_away> then you can find its icon
[02:50] <rohan> yes, i can see th big one there
[02:50] <rohan> but the small one is black
[02:50] <cfraz89_away> so you can set konsoles icon
[02:50] <cfraz89_away> hmmm
[02:51] <paulvolk> How can I run a .exe file from a CD in wine?
[02:51] <cfraz89_away> paulvolk: open a terminal at the cd directory
[02:51] <cfraz89_away> probably /media/cdrom
[02:51] <paulvolk> ya
[02:51] <cfraz89_away> and then type in wine <name>.exe
[02:51] <rohan> which pkg provides the konsole icon ?
[02:52] <cfraz89_away> kdebase id say
[02:53] <paulvolk> ok cfraz89_away it says the command wine cannot be found
[02:54] <cfraz89_away> i think you need to install wine
[02:54] <rohan> paulvolk: sudo apt-get install wine
[02:54] <paulvolk> ok
[02:54] <kubuntutaotao> brothers, my ktorrent doesn't connect the peers and other mans.
[02:55] <kubuntutaotao> why
[02:55] <cfraz89_away> port forwarding maybe
[02:55] <cfraz89_away> what port are you useing in ktorrent?
[02:55] <kubuntutaotao> 6881
[02:56] <cfraz89_away> youll need to set that up for port forwarding in your modem
[02:56] <cfraz89_away> also sometimes it helps to use a different port
[02:56] <cfraz89_away> some isps block it
[02:56] <cfraz89_away> and some torrent networks block it too
[02:56] <frepe> Hello. Is there anyone here who speaks hungarian? I really need help translating a very short text into english.
[02:57] <cfraz89_away> i use 49153
[02:57] <cfraz89_away> gtg
[02:57] <cfraz89_away> cya
[02:57] <kubuntutaotao> amule??
[02:57] <rohan> LeeJunFan: ping
[02:57] <rohan> LeeJunFan: how do i disable all the errors about wacom tablet ?
[02:58] <LeeJunFan> rohan: not sure, I don't know why it would be doing that one.
[02:58] <rohan> :S
[03:01] <Chris_Tucker> i wanna switch back to kde but im getting overly acustomed to having the space of two taskbars :/
[03:02] <Chris_Tucker> im gonna try to switch over
[03:02] <LeeJunFan> Chris_Tucker: so make another one in kde. I've got 2.
[03:02] <rohan> LeeJunFan: baa now i removed all wacom stuff, yet the same problem
[03:02] <rohan> i changed the wallpaper too
[03:03] <Pupeno> I am converting images from tiff to png with ImageMagick's convert, how do I achieve the greatest compression ?
[03:03] <rohan> error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[03:03] <rohan> QImage::convertDepth: Image is a null image
[03:03] <rohan> QImage::smoothScale: Image is a null image
[03:03] <rohan> ScimInputContextPlugin()
[03:03] <rohan> ~ScimInputContextPlugin()
[03:03] <rohan> how do i remove this Scim stuff ?
[03:04] <rohan> ahhh.... konsole icon problem fixed ! atleast
[03:05] <LeeJunFan> rohan: not sure about scim, but I also don't have the xserver dir, so that's not it.e
[03:06] <LeeJunFan> rohan: I've also got the scim stuff loading in mine w/o a problem.
[03:07] <rohan> ok
[03:07] <rohan> i am trying to remove all possible problems
[03:07] <rohan> LeeJunFan: ok, i set wallapepr to a solid color
[03:08] <rohan> just in case
[03:08] <rohan> ah, ok, that didnt help
[03:08] <rohan> LeeJunFan: any more ideas plz ?
[03:10] <LeeJunFan> rohan: did you check the X logs just in case it logged something while kdm was starting?
[03:10] <rohan> nothing thats interesting
[03:11] <rohan> added ps2mouse as input device
[03:11] <rohan> and such
[03:11] <rohan> (II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 0
[03:11] <rohan> (II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 1
[03:11] <rohan> (II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 2
[03:12] <rohan> oh well, but for this kdm issue, everythings fine now
[03:13] <LeeJunFan> rohan: I'm about out of ideas unless strace kdm -nodaemon will show you where it's hanging.
[03:13] <rohan> oh, ok
[03:13] <rohan> trying that too
[03:14] <rohan> also, i request any kubuntu developer out here, to please implement this bug -- https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/40089
[03:14] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 40089 in kdebase kwin "Rebuild using the patch from bugs.kde.org/124807" [Normal,Unconfirmed] 
[03:14] <rohan> Riddell maybe ?
[03:17] <Chris_Tucker> AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH.... why does xchat look like it was written in the early days of QT in kde?!
[03:17] <rohan> aha, LeeJunFan got it
[03:17] <rohan> rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, NULL, [] , 8)  = 0
[03:17] <rohan> read(12, "\6\0\0\0", 4)                 = 4
[03:17] <rohan> select(17, [4 6 7 8 9 12 16] , NULL, NULL, NULL
[03:17] <rohan> here its hanging like hell
[03:18] <rohan> any more debugging i can do with that message ?
[03:18] <rohan> oh, even when the user/pass prompt is displayed, strace shows the same thing
[03:20] <LeeJunFan> rohan: I was hoping it would be more informative than that :-/ I'm at a loss.
[03:20] <rohan> Chris_Tucker: do you have gtk2-engines-gtk-qt installed and configured ?
[03:20] <LeeJunFan> rohan: have you done updates since you've installed?
[03:20] <rohan> LeeJunFan: any way of getting more verbose output ?
[03:21] <rohan> LeeJunFan: no, not done any updates
[03:22] <LeeJunFan> rohan: there were a lot of kde updates friday at about 7PM EST, perhaps that would fix you up.
[03:22] <Chris_Tucker> rohan, so ... xchat DOES use qt?
[03:22] <rohan> Chris_Tucker: no, xchat uses gtk2
[03:22] <Chris_Tucker> uh, w/e ... installing now... but how do i configure it?
[03:22] <rohan> LeeJunFan: yes, i do see lots and lots of kde updates
[03:23] <rohan> Chris_Tucker: kcontrol -> appearance -> gtk themes and fonts -> and set gtk apps to use "Qt" theme and "My KDE Fonts"
[03:23] <LeeJunFan> well, I gotta run for a while. good luck rohan.
[03:24] <rohan> LeeJunFan: hehe thanks
[03:25] <Chris_Tucker> thanks rohan, this is much better, but my fonts in xchat are still tiny, but tinier than any font size i have set in my fonts tab...
[03:26] <Chris_Tucker> only in xchat
[03:26] <Chris_Tucker> nvm... found that dialog
[03:26] <Chris_Tucker> here we are :)
[03:27] <rohan> :)
[03:28] <BrianB04> Morning all.
[03:29] <Hobbsee> hi
[03:30] <rohan> hello, BrianB04
[03:30] <BrianB04> How goes it in here today?
[03:41] <Chris_Tucker> hm
[03:41] <Chris_Tucker> kcontrol isnt in my menu
[03:41] <paulvolk> Hello could someone point me to a good how to on using Alien?
[03:41] <Chris_Tucker> weird... anyway.. where would i find the proper icon for kcontrol? i know how to add the menu item, just no idea where to link the icon from
[03:42] <jpatrick> !alien
[03:42] <ubotu> [alien]  a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[03:42] <paulvolk> and could someone tell me a good replacement for Limewire?
[03:43] <Chris_Tucker> paulvolk, frostwire
[03:43] <paulvolk> where could I get it?
[03:43] <paulvolk> adept?
[03:44] <ygetartson> hi. u know of gentoo, the file manager?
[03:44] <ygetartson> i got a prob:
[03:44] <ygetartson> kcontrol settings wont affect its look
[03:44] <ygetartson> hows that?
[03:45] <ygetartson> btw, i run ubuntu dapper
[03:45] <ygetartson> gnome
[03:45] <ygetartson> kcontrol affects, say, ktouch
[03:45] <ygetartson> properly.
[03:46] <jpatrick> because it's not a KDE app
[03:46] <ygetartson> its not?
[03:46] <ygetartson> it doesnt look like a gnome 1...
[03:46] <Chris_Tucker> the file manager in gnome is not a kde app... no
[03:46] <jpatrick> it's GTK
[03:47] <Chris_Tucker> i think its called nautilus, it will be affected by your gnome theme settings
[03:47] <ygetartson> no, i mean, gentoo
[03:47] <ygetartson> not the linux dist,
[03:47] <ygetartson> the file manager
[03:47] <apokryphos> I think Nautilus is even one of the few *gnome* apps (not just GTK), too.
[03:47] <Chris_Tucker> weird
[03:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> apokryphos, i would expect so
[03:48] <Chris_Tucker> anyway, where would i put a command to have it run on login in kde?
[03:48] <ygetartson> i know of nautilus, and i am not having probs with it
[03:48] <apokryphos> Kamping_Kaiser: I found it very curious when I first discovered how many apps weren't gnome at all, but just GTK.
[03:49] <ygetartson> praps gtk settings are not affected by gtk2?
[03:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> its got half a dozen gnome lib<blah> wich is gnoem related
[03:49] <etam> hi
[03:49] <etam> i want to adept mplayer but it sais break install :|
[03:50] <etam> apt-get install mplayer
[03:50] <etam> says that i need libdirectfb
[03:50] <florin-> i'm running kubuntu dapper 6.06 and when i'm tryng to run adept y get this: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.,apt-get install works just fine from the konsole, what can y do to remadiate?
[03:50] <etam> and it cant be installed
[03:50] <apokryphos> etam: /msg ubotu mplayer
[03:50] <etam> apokryphos: thanks
[03:51] <Chris_Tucker> where would i put a command to have it run on login in kde?
[03:52] <apokryphos> Chris_Tucker: ~/.kde/Autostart/
[03:52] <rohan> !mplayer
[03:52] <ubotu> [mplayer]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[03:52] <mornfall> florin-: sudo debtags update
[03:52] <apokryphos> Chris_Tucker: any executable file in there will be run on KDE startup
[03:52] <Chris_Tucker> thanks apokryphos
[03:53] <Riddell> hi mornfall
[03:54] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:56] <cossidhon> hi there :-)
[03:57] <paulvolk> Hey
[03:58] <paulvolk> Ya frostwire seems great but I can't get it to start
[03:58] <paulvolk> I click on the icon in the menu and it shows it loading but nothing ever comes up.
[03:58] <paulvolk> how can I fix it?
[04:03] <_simon_> sry for spam
[04:04] <solan> how can I make firefox my default web-browser?
[04:04] <etam> apokryphos: but there is anything about (BREAK) install
[04:05] <etam> is is possible to adept mplayer in kubuntu?
[04:05] <jpatrick> etam: do it from the konsole
[04:05] <Hobbsee> !+mplayer
[04:05] <jpatrick> see what breaks?
[04:05] <ubotu> somebody said mplayer was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[04:06] <etam> jpatrick: but in console it needs libdirectfb09.20
[04:06] <etam> jpatrick: and i have libdirectfb09.22
[04:06] <jpatrick> :/
[04:07] <etam> jpatrick: maybe my repository is wrong? or there is another error
[04:07] <jpatrick> etam: it's in multiverse
[04:08] <psyke83> solan: kcontrol, KDE Components, Component Chooser
[04:08] <etam> jpatrick: yes, i know
[04:08] <etam> jpatrick: i hav it in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:09] <etam> jpatrick: what is wrong with libdirect?
[04:09] <jpatrick> no idea
[04:09] <etam> jpatrick: ok, thanks
[04:12] <_simon_> how do i change the default firefox cursor to the kde cursor?
[04:13] <Hobbsee> !firefox
[04:13] <Hobbsee> !tell _simon_ about firefox
[04:13] <_simon_> thx ;)
[04:15] <solan> psyke83: thx m8:)
[04:15] <psyke83> np :)
[04:15] <paulvolk> ok in firefox my cursor changes from the default one I have choosen, how can I fix it sho that firefox/thunderbird use it?
[04:17] <Hobbsee> !tell paulvolk  about firefox
[04:17] <Hobbsee> paulvolk: _simon_ :  is this in dapper default too?
[04:17] <paulvolk> What do you mena?
[04:18] <paulvolk> mean*
[04:19] <_simon_> im using breezy... dont know about dapper, sry
[04:19] <h3sp4wn> paulovolk: you will need to change the default cursor for gtk as well as qt
[04:19] <amelie91> !de
[04:19] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[04:20] <_simon_> !sources
[04:20] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:20] <_simon_> is this the sources.list that comes with kubuntu?#
[04:20] <_simon_> !easysource
[04:20] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:21] <apokryphos> ubuntu and kubuntu have the same default sources.list, yes.
[04:21] <_simon_> ok thx, is there any sources.list you can recommend?
[04:21] <apokryphos> _simon_: the one ubotu provides
[04:22] <apokryphos> with a few additions ;-)
[04:22] <apokryphos> such as:
[04:22] <apokryphos> !kde3.5.2
[04:22] <ubotu> methinks kde3.5.2 is to upgrade to KDE3.5.2, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[04:22] <_simon_> thx
[04:22] <apokryphos> and..
[04:23] <apokryphos> ubotu: latest amarok is <reply> Latest amaroK packaged for Kubuntu is amaroK 1.4 beta 3: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4beta3.php
[04:23] <ubotu> okay, apokryphos
[04:27] <paulvolk> What would you guys say was the best media player for playing MP3s?
[04:28] <Hobbsee> paulvolk: amarok!
[04:29] <paulvolk> ok
[04:33] <paulvolk> have any of you heard of the game called Boson?
[04:37] <paulvolk> can anyone point me to a good how to for setting up windows shares?
[04:59] <soulfreshner> how do I select kdm as my default session manager?
[04:59] <soulfreshner> what is that configurator that runs when you install kbuntu-desktop?
[05:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> soulfreshner, `sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm`
[05:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> APT and dpkg mostly in answer rto your second question
[05:01] <soulfreshner> Kamping_Kaiser: ta! dpkg-reconfigure is what I was looking for
[05:01] <bert> ugh, default theme makes my eyes hurt :S
[05:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> np soulfreshner
[05:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> bert, you up to date?
[05:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> i hear it was "intersting" for a while
[05:02] <kubuntutaotao> why my ktorrent can't connect other mans
[05:02] <bert> Kamping_Kaiser: i just reinstalled kubuntu and did a dist-upgrade
[05:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> kubuntutaotao, whats up?
[05:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> beast, hm. in that case i would expect it to be the new theme (whatever it is)
[05:04] <bert> Kamping_Kaiser: it needs more customizing than the last time i installed it, that's sad...
[05:04] <kubuntutaotao> Kamping_Kaiser:my ktorrent can't connect
[05:04] <Chris_Tucker> i forget how to config kde so that single click = select and double click = open :(
[05:04] <Mastus> I just wonder, has anyone managed to get the TV-out working? (ATI)
[05:05] <Chris_Tucker> Mastus, what card?
[05:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> Mastus, very much depends on your card
[05:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> Chris_Tucker, its single by default isnt it?
[05:05] <Mastus> Chris_Tucker: Radeon 9550SE
[05:05] <Chris_Tucker> Kamping_Kaiser, single to open, yes. but i forget the program to change all the settings
[05:05] <Chris_Tucker> Mastus, your tv out should be no trouble to get working
[05:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> Chris_Tucker, i would expect it to be that controll center thing
[05:06] <Chris_Tucker> Kamping_Kaiser, no, it was a wizard somewhere...
[05:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> i dont know im afraid chip42
[05:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> * Chris_Tucker
[05:06] <Mastus> Chris_Tucker: So I thought...
[05:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry chip42 , not you
[05:07] <Chris_Tucker> Mastus, the forums have a how-to
[05:09] <Mastus> Chris_Tucker: I've followed the "ATI Drivers v.0.2 how-to" and have installed the fglrx and they are working.
[05:11] <Mastus> Problem is that how I "enable TV"
[05:20] <sledge> What are the keyboard shortcuts to switch between virtual desktops?
[05:20] <sledge> CTRL+TAB / CTRL+SHIFT+TAB don't work :/
[05:22] <bert> What's the difference between linux-k7 and linux-image-k7?
[05:24] <ubuntu> I, I have just tryed to install kubuntu with the new espresso installer, at the end of the 6th step of the installation the program crash, I rebot and I see that my MBR is removed !! I remember that the first partition end at sector 729 but for the other I forgot, how I can do ?
[05:25] <sledge> Nevermind. I found the keyboard shortcuts...
[05:31] <fjellrev1> How can I auto send programs when I start them to a certain desktops?
[05:33] <jpatrick> fjellrev1: what?
[05:33] <mrgreen> Can I load Firefox in kubuntu64?
[05:35] <fjellrev1> jpatrick: well,each time I start a program it automatically goes to desktop 1,seems kind of pointless if I have to organize my desktops each time I start a progam
[05:35] <jpatrick> fjellrev1: strange
[05:36] <fjellrev1> jpatrick: whats standard?
[05:36] <jpatrick> should go to the current desktop
[05:36] <xwolf-> any idea why cant i set my own ip number, just through dhcp am i able to connect anywhere external?
[05:37] <mrgreen> *bump
[05:39] <PSIplus> hi
[05:39] <PSIplus> There is a new Beagle-Web-Frontend with KDE-Support: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=38289
[05:44] <Mastus> It kind of works now  \o/
[05:45] <Mastus> actually I think it has been working all along...
[05:46] <Mastus> I just thought that "restart X" could be done in "Ctrl+Alt+Backspace"
[05:46] <Mastus> But nope, had to logout, and then it worked...
[05:47] <noteventime>                Frst och frmst mste du vara kund i Skandia eller SkandiaBanken och en ha personlig kod.
[05:47] <noteventime>  r du inte redan kund kan du bli det  hr. Inom ngra dagar fr du sedan en personlig kod och mer information med posten.
[05:47] <noteventime> 
[05:47] <noteventime> !tv
[05:47] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime
[05:47] <noteventime> !tvout
[05:47] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime
[05:48] <noteventime> Does someone know how to use the tvout connector in linux
[05:48] <noteventime> I'm using a i915gn
[05:48] <noteventime> gm*
[05:48] <noteventime> and Sorry for the random text, stupid touchpad hotkey for paste
[05:48] <Tm_T> noteventime: wiki.ubuntu.com knows
[05:49] <noteventime> Thanks Ill take a look
[05:52] <] Denis[> how i can install gnome via apt-get at kubuntu?
[05:52] <arrinmurr> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:53] <] Denis[> cool.. i will try arrinmurr
[05:53] <] Denis[> :)
[05:57] <CraiZE> Hi, how can i make konqueror (kbear actually, but i think if i get it right in konqueror, i will have it in kbear also) use a double click to launch / go into a folder instead of a single click ?
[05:58] <noteventime> CraiZE, kcontrol -> peripherals -> mouse
[05:58] <CraiZE> ok
[05:58] <xwolf-> any idea why cant i set my own ip number, just through dhcp am i able to connect anywhere external?
[05:58] <CraiZE> thanks! :)
[05:59] <GameOVer69> hey guys can anyone help me get xserver running on my laptop again, i just tried installing the ati DRI drivers, and now i cant get into the kde GUI
[06:01] <DeadS0ul> you installed the drivers but did you reconfigure x?
[06:02] <GameOVer69> i had to do the whole DRI stuff
[06:02] <GameOVer69> and no i dont think i reconfigured x
[06:02] <GameOVer69> im still new to linux so i dont know :(
[06:02] <Armagguedes> hello
[06:02] <DeadS0ul> GameOVer69: arlight, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:02] <Armagguedes> i've just updated to the beta version (from the previous flight) of Dapper
[06:02] <Armagguedes> and now i have a huge problem
[06:03] <Armagguedes> my keyboard is non-responsive
[06:03] <Armagguedes> in order to type smtg, i have to hold down the key 2-3 seconds
[06:03] <GameOVer69> DeadS0ul: do i attempt to autodetect hardware?
[06:03] <Armagguedes> for the first action to occur
[06:03] <DeadS0ul> Armagguedes: ps/2 keyboard?
[06:03] <DeadS0ul> GameOVer69: yeap
[06:03] <DeadS0ul> GameOVer69: what card do you have?
[06:03] <Armagguedes> DeadS0ul builtin laptop
[06:03] <GameOVer69> DeadS0ul: ati radeon mobility 7500
[06:04] <Armagguedes> any ideas?
[06:04] <GameOVer69> DeadS0ul: now for the desired xserver driver, shouldnt it be radeon... all i see is ati?
[06:06] <DeadS0ul> GameOVer69: what drivers do you have?
[06:07] <DeadS0ul> Armagguedes: never seen teh problem, I don't hink I can be of much help
[06:07] <GameOVer69> i downloaded radeon, and common
[06:07] <GameOVer69> for the DRI
[06:07] <DeadS0ul> and you have the kernel driver too?
[06:07] <GameOVer69> i dont think so
[06:08] <DeadS0ul> I think you need those more than anything else
[06:09] <GameOVer69> i didnt see those mentione din the message board from hwere i got the info from
[06:09] <GameOVer69> but what can i do then
[06:09] <DeadS0ul> one sec
[06:11] <DeadS0ul> I dunno bout your laptop, but to use the ati driver, I went to ati.com and downloaded their linux drivers
[06:11] <DeadS0ul> compiled, installed it
[06:11] <DeadS0ul> and then used their utility to create my xorg.conf
[06:11] <GameOVer69> they only support 8500+
[06:11] <DeadS0ul> ah
[06:12] <DeadS0ul> damn, alright you might ahve better luck in #linuxhelp on undernet
[06:12] <DeadS0ul> this channel is kinda quiet right now
[06:12] <GameOVer69> alright thanks
[06:17] <DeadS0ul> GameOVer69: tehy're like that over there at times
[06:17] <DeadS0ul> tell me whta you did? did you reconfigure X?
[06:18] <GameOVer69> they ar bastards
[06:18] <GameOVer69> im freaking new to this
[06:18] <GameOVer69> yes
[06:18] <Armagguedes> i've just updated from the alfa flights to the dapper beta, and i have a keyboard input problem (laptop, builtin): in order to type smtg, i have to hold down the key 2-3 seconds in order for something to happen (a character gets typed/enter-newline/capslock/etc). The problem gets pseudo-fixed with a Crtl-Alt-Backspace.
[06:18] <Armagguedes> any ideas?
[06:18] <GameOVer69> and i got into startx
[06:19] <GameOVer69> now im rebooting to see if i can get in normally
[06:19] <che_benway> Hi all. I want to edit/manage the processes that load at start-up. For eg my system loads PCMCIA and I'm using a desktop PC. Running Dapper. Thanks
[06:23] <GameOVer69> DeadS0ul
[06:26] <DeadS0ul> oops sory
[06:26] <DeadS0ul> how dod you reconfigure x?
[06:27] <jpatrick> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:27] <GameOVer69> be honest
[06:27] <GameOVer69> i just was pressing esc
[06:27] <GameOVer69> to get out
[06:27] <GameOVer69> and it still wrote whatever default changes
[06:27] <GameOVer69> but it works now
[06:27] <GameOVer69> with 3d acceleration
[06:27] <GameOVer69> make any sense to you?
[06:27] <DeadS0ul> che_benway: I think youc an configure stat up services with  KSysV
[06:28] <DeadS0ul> GameOVer69: not quite, but if you used dpkg-reconfigure, there will be a back up in your /etc/X11/ dir
[06:28] <DeadS0ul> and next time use Ctrl C to get out
[06:30] <GameOVer69> hmmm how do i see the fps in glxgears
[06:31] <arrinmurr> GameOVer69: glxgears -printfps
[06:34] <GameOVer69> arrinmurr: now now what can i do to increase my fps
[06:34] <GameOVer69> its only 700+
[06:39] <arrinmurr> GameOVer69: if you already have the best 3d-accelerated drivers installed for your graphics card, i don't know
[06:40] <GameOVer69> alright, question though do u use DRIconf?
[06:45] <arrinmurr> GameOVer69: me? no
[06:46] <cycus_zwisus> hi, how to make windows the default os in grub menu?
[06:52] <cycus_zwisus> how to make windows the default os in grub menu?
[06:54] <jpatrick> cycus_zwisus: look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:54] <cycus_zwisus> yes i looked there, but i don't know what sholud be changed
[06:54] <BearKnuckle> Silly question, how do I search in apt-get, I thought it was "apt-get --search" but... this doesn't work.
[06:55] <jpatrick> BearKnuckle: apt-cache search ...
[06:55] <BearKnuckle> jpatrick: Of course... me stupid, thanks!
[06:55] <jpatrick> cycus_zwisus: change the default line
[06:57] <cycus_zwisus> and what should be insterted there?
[06:57] <savas> Hi,i have a laptop that has an i915GM graphics on it.DRI works but,Flightgear and other GL apps crashes X immediately, i'm confused about mesa packages.There is libgl1-mesa and libglu1-mesa
[06:57] <cycus_zwisus> inserted*
[06:57] <BearKnuckle> "The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem." None of the hints solved the problem, anyone else has a hint for me?
[06:57] <jpatrick> cycus_zwisus: depends on your partitions
[06:58] <jpatrick> BearKnuckle: something using dpkg ?
[06:59] <BearKnuckle> jpatrick: I am starting ubuntu the first time I don't know what should use dpkg,
[06:59] <jpatrick> BearKnuckle: do you have adept or apt-get running?
[06:59] <cycus_zwisus> actually my friend wants windows as a default one , i'm happy with ubuntu as first
[07:00] <BearKnuckle> jpatrick: no, at the moment yes, but for sure not the time I tried to open the application
[07:00] <cycus_zwisus> ok, i'm reading grub manual at the moment
[07:01] <BearKnuckle> The only application running and having adept or apt in it's name is "adept_notifier", but I don't think this is blocking the application, isn't it?
[07:02] <buz> !s2ram
[07:02] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, buz
[07:02] <buz> does anybody know about s2ram binaries for ubuntu?
[07:02] <cycus_zwisus> ubuntu sucks, in mandriva there was a nice configuration tool
[07:04] <jpatrick> cycus_zwisus: you go program it then
[07:05] <buz> jpatrick: he's not totally wrong
[07:05] <buz> guidance seems dangerous to use
[07:05] <buz> the X config module is totally unusable
[07:05] <buz> better not offer something like that i say
[07:06] <paulvolk> Hello
[07:07] <paulvolk> I was trying to install a game on linux using Wine but it has 2 CDs. I was wondering how would I change cds half way through the installation
[07:08] <DeadS0ul> umount the cd..
[07:08] <DeadS0ul> eject it
[07:08] <DeadS0ul> put the new cd in
[07:08] <DeadS0ul> and mount it
[07:08] <cycus_zwisus> ubuntu tries to be the easiest distro but it's still much worse than amndriva
[07:08] <cycus_zwisus> mandriva*
[07:08] <paulvolk> oh ok cause when I tryed to press the eject button it wouldn't eject
[07:08] <buz> then why dont you use mandriva?!?
[07:09] <visik7> use mandriva and don't bother us
[07:09] <cycus_zwisus> visik7: i ahven't been using mandriva for a year but i think i'll go back to it
[07:09] <cycus_zwisus> a year with ubuntu was just a waste of time
[07:10] <buz> sure took you long to notice
[07:10] <cycus_zwisus> ubuntu is good for english speaking folks only
[07:11] <paulvolk> not true
[07:11] <buz> i18n in ubuntu is top notch
[07:11] <benny> hello, how can I install ndiswrapper? I think I dont have all sources in the apt-get list
[07:11] <BearKnuckle> How can I see if a kernel-modul (in my case vesafb) is installed and then how can I activate it to be loaded on start?
[07:11] <paulvolk> I think Ubuntu is a very good distro and is one of the easiest to use
[07:11] <cycus_zwisus> it's true, I can't find help in my native language for ubuntu
[07:11] <paulvolk> What is your native language?
[07:11] <visik7> cycus_zwisus: we'll consider your insigniful suggestion in the next ubuntu release
[07:12] <visik7> :)
[07:12] <paulvolk> wait even before that how long and hard have you looked
[07:12] <paulvolk> cause if you do a half assed job then doubt you would find anything
[07:12] <benny> is there a kubuntu channel for german user? my english is horrible :)
[07:13] <paulvolk> I think so
[07:13] <jpatrick> !de
[07:13] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[07:13] <paulvolk> lol there you go
[07:13] <cycus_zwisus> ubuntu is very slow too
[07:13] <benny> thx :)
[07:13] <paulvolk> no not true
[07:13] <paulvolk> 6.05 is faster
[07:14] <cycus_zwisus> 6.05??????
[07:14] <paulvolk> plus it depends on you hardware as well as what you us it for.
[07:14] <cycus_zwisus> ubuntu is for i386
[07:14] <paulvolk> I think you can get it for others too
[07:14] <paulvolk> I am sure of it
[07:15] <cycus_zwisus> for i686? where?
[07:15] <NiceGuy24_> is there any advantage of installing from DVD than CD?
[07:15] <paulvolk> ya you can get it for 64bit and powerpc
[07:16] <paulvolk> i386 is so that they can be avalible to a wider array of users
[07:16] <cycus_zwisus> but you can't get it for i686
[07:16] <cycus_zwisus> and i think it sucks
[07:16] <paulvolk> so??? what is the diffrence?
[07:16] <visik7> u want optimized code ? use ubuntu
[07:16] <visik7> u want optimized code ? use gentoo
[07:17] <cycus_zwisus> besides all thosew dependencies make mi sick
[07:18] <paulvolk> I don think mandrivia is a better choice then Ubuntu though I highly doubt it. I think Ubuntu is one of the most up-to-date OS
[07:18] <buz> dont feed the troll
[07:18] <paulvolk> I never get any dependencies.
[07:18] <paulvolk> lol
[07:18] <paulvolk> I wonder what I am doing right?
[07:18] <cycus_zwisus> both mandriva and ubuntu are so windows-like
[07:18] <paulvolk> which is a good thing
[07:19] <DeadS0ul> my kubuntu desktop is mac like =D
[07:19] <paulvolk> for users that migrate
[07:19] <paulvolk> basicly Linux you can modify to be like any OS from Mac to Windows to something totaly new
[07:19] <paulvolk> you can't really compare that I would say.
[07:20] <paulvolk> cause it can be changed so much.
[07:20] <ecker> Anyone in here run Azureous if so what repos in ur sources.list did you use ??
[07:20] <cycus_zwisus> have you ever compiled anything on ubuntu?
[07:20] <paulvolk> Ya
[07:21] <cycus_zwisus> ubuntu is for lazy people
[07:21] <buz> that's why i use it, really
[07:21] <cycus_zwisus> i have to compile a lot
[07:21] <paulvolk> it makes it easy which is good? do you want to decode everything from binary or something?
[07:22] <cycus_zwisus> nowadays many packages are just outdated
[07:22] <paulvolk> so you compile a lot. what is your point?
[07:22] <paulvolk> What do you mean?
[07:22] <cycus_zwisus> some older packages just can't be uninstalled because of dependencies
[07:22] <ecker> my point is wheres the Azureous at
[07:22] <ecker> im dying here
[07:23] <buz> how about ktorrent?
[07:23] <buz> faster than azureus, for sure
[07:23] <ecker> blah
[07:23] <cycus_zwisus> the only solution is to install newer ones to /usr/local so as not to interfere with the old ones
[07:23] <ecker> thats booty
[07:23] <cycus_zwisus> i don't actaully need two versions of the same package
[07:23] <paulvolk> ok so what is the problem cycus_zwisus
[07:23] <ecker> I like the lil from logo
[07:23] <paulvolk> ?
[07:23] <cycus_zwisus> but it's the only solution in ubuntu
[07:24] <ecker> frog*
[07:24] <paulvolk> so why can't you take the old one out cycus_zwisus?
[07:24] <cycus_zwisus> because of dependencies
[07:24] <buz> dpkg --force
[07:24] <buz> i suggest you go use gentoo
[07:24] <paulvolk> but if you replace it then there shouldn't be a problem should there?
[07:25] <cycus_zwisus> gentoo is for real maniacs, i think of trying slackware
[07:25] <paulvolk> THEN DO IT AND STOP FLAMING US FOR USING UBUNTU!
[07:25] <paulvolk> SHEESH!!!!!
[07:25] <paulvolk> lol
[07:26] <h3sp4wn> There is only one case that I have come across where I need something to be updated and I couldn't install it in /opt or /usr/local
[07:26] <cycus_zwisus> i just wan't you to admit that ubuntu is so cool and nice that it's actually unuseable
[07:26] <jpatrick> ok, calm down guys....
[07:27] <paulvolk> Correction I am using it so you are wrong!
[07:27] <cycus_zwisus> besides i hate gnome
[07:27] <visik7> I don't admit the false
[07:27] <paulvolk> I am not using Gnome
[07:27] <paulvolk> I am using KDE
[07:28] <cycus_zwisus> kde is neglected in ubuntu
[07:28] <paulvolk> lol no
[07:28] <paulvolk> ever heard of Kubuntu?
[07:28] <jpatrick> cycus_zwisus: there are less of us devs for Kubuntu
[07:28] <cycus_zwisus> all new and sometimes cool features concern gnome
[07:28] <buz> has anyone gotten http://suspend.sourceforge.net/ to work on dapper?
[07:28] <buz> or even compile, for that matter
[07:29] <paulvolk> cycus_zwisus: what desktop enviroment do you want?
[07:29] <DREAD> i have an emergancy
[07:29] <cycus_zwisus> yes paulvolk i mean kubuntu-desktop
[07:29] <jpatrick> DREAD: welcome to the club
[07:29] <jpatrick> ;)
[07:29] <DREAD> stuck installing at 25% instalation repositorys
[07:29] <jpatrick> cycus_zwisus: if you want to help: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HelpingKubuntu
[07:30] <DREAD> thanks
[07:30] <paulvolk> cycus_zwisus: again I ask you what desktop enviroment do you want???????????
[07:30] <visik7> cycus_zwisus: u are on kubuntu so it supposed that users use kde
[07:30] <visik7> bother ubuntu with your stupid opinion
[07:30] <visik7> or just use windows
[07:30] <cycus_zwisus> i know that kde is default in kubuntu
[07:31] <DREAD> i got the hump with windows
[07:31] <cycus_zwisus> i use it right now, i said that i hate gnome
[07:31] <Gom_Ark> ya til un francais ii ?
[07:31] <jpatrick> !fr
[07:31] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:31] <paulvolk> cycus_zwisus: WHAT DO YOU WANT? you aren't telling anyone so we can help you!!!
[07:31] <Gom_Ark> merci jpatrisk
[07:32] <paulvolk> do you want kde or gnome or something else what???
[07:32] <jpatrick> Gom_Ark: de rien
[07:32] <cycus_zwisus> i just wrote that kde is a bit neglected in (k)ubuntu
[07:33] <paulvolk> How so??? I don't understand???
[07:33] <cycus_zwisus> synaptic is gtk2 etc
[07:33] <buz> there's adept
[07:33] <paulvolk> Ya adept
[07:33] <h3sp4wn> cycus_zwisus: makes it more stable less messing with it
[07:33] <paulvolk> isn't the kynaptic or something?
[07:33] <buz> and there's dapper for the enterprising (like myself)
[07:33] <jpatrick> kynaptic sucks
[07:34] <DREAD> can someone help me with the install i made my account and set my password but now is got a loading bar stuck at 25% its been like that for ages
[07:34] <paulvolk> lol that may be nut I am giving him choices
[07:34] <h3sp4wn> aptitude is all you need
[07:34] <paulvolk> I use Adept myself
[07:34] <cycus_zwisus> it's possible to use ubuntu woithout qt  but it's frustrating to use kubuntu without gtk
[07:35] <cycus_zwisus> kynaptic - lol
[07:35] <paulvolk> know I think that is what it is called no joke
[07:36] <paulvolk> lol here you go... straight from Adept
[07:36] <paulvolk> and you said KDE is neglected
[07:36] <paulvolk> Kynaptic is a graphical package management tool based on KDE and APT using the same code base as Synaptic. Kynaptic enables you to install, upgrade and remove software packages in a user friendly way.
[07:37] <paulvolk> just have to make sure you see this part "based on KDE"
[07:37] <DREAD> kbuntu isnt very easy to install
[07:38] <paulvolk> anyways I have to go but one more thing KUBUNTU ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YAYAYAYA
[07:38] <paulvolk> that will change I think drapper is coming with a GUI installer
[07:38] <paulvolk> I read it somewhere
[07:38] <paulvolk> anyways bye
[07:38] <cycus_zwisus> kubuntu is very easy to install
[07:39] <DREAD> whys it stuck at 25% for 2 hours
[07:39] <DREAD> then :P
[07:39] <kosh> it doesn't like you
[07:39] <DREAD> should i reboot? or abort?
[07:39] <kosh> the most likely problem is a bad cd burn or bad hardware
[07:39] <cycus_zwisus> maybe your cd/dvd is corrupt
[07:39] <DREAD> oh great
[07:39] <kosh> it should not take more then about 10 minutes or so to install kubuntu on anything remotely modern
[07:40] <qweqwe> hi guys
[07:40] <qweqwe> anyone here?
[07:40] <DREAD> i burnt its at 4x so it cant be a burn error
[07:40] <kosh> no
[07:40] <element> hehe
[07:40] <element> im trying to install Kubuntu on a 17inch Powerbook
[07:40] <cycus_zwisus> today on my friend's computer i installed ubuntu as a server and then installed kde 3.5.2 via apt then
[07:40] <DREAD> and the iso is 640 megs so no problems there
[07:40] <kosh> what speed you burn it at has nothing to do with it being possible to have a burn error
[07:40] <h3sp4wn> DREAD: Did you verify the disk
[07:40] <element> but it keeps giving me a CD-ROM drive not found error
[07:40] <DREAD> nope
[07:41] <Vge> when computer starts why hidden panels start as nonhidden then fade to hide position, this messes my icons in desktop as my leftside panel is huge but autohidden?
[07:41] <element> ive downloaded the latest version.. any ideas?
[07:41] <DREAD> it vomited text very quick at me then asked whats my language
[07:42] <DREAD> then i installed it made my accound now it just says instalation repositroys 25%
[07:42] <DREAD> ill go have another look
[07:43] <DREAD> nope still stuck at 25%
[07:43] <element> does anyone kno how to install kubuntu on a 17icnh powerbook?
[07:44] <DREAD> powerbook is a mac right?
[07:44] <element> i keep getting an error message
[07:44] <element> ya :)
[07:44] <DREAD> no idea
[07:44] <element> oh ok
[07:44] <DeadS0ul> g'nite peeps
[07:44] <element> i keep getting the error message CD-ROM drive not found
[07:44] <DREAD> im trying to get it to install on my dads crap laptop
[07:44] <DREAD> gets to 25% and then sits there
[07:45] <DREAD> i got 25.1 gigs on the hdd what more does it want
[07:45] <DREAD> ori s it 12 :P
[07:45] <element> all u need is 5 gigs rly
[07:45] <DREAD> well i got plenty then
[07:45] <element> linux is very small
[07:45] <element> does it come up with an error message?
[07:45] <element> try expert install
[07:46] <element> it will ask u a lot of questions so u may need to sit next to a linux guru to help u install it :)
[07:46] <DREAD> no it says setting up primary installation repositorys
[07:46] <DREAD> 25% and thats all it wants to do
[07:46] <jpatrick> DeadS0ul: please get rid of that, gracias
[07:47] <DREAD> ill have yet another look
[07:47] <DREAD> no still 25%
[07:47] <Vge> element: i have now used 5Gb from my 10Gb / partition
[07:48] <element> ahh well i guess it dont take up a lot
[07:48] <element> my m8 says 10gb's is all u need
[07:48] <element> vge: any idea how to get kubuntu working on a 17inch powerbook (MAC POWERPC)
[07:49] <DREAD> i pressed cntrl alt delete and gave it a smack
[07:49] <Vge> well for / partition yes, but i had the same sized windows partition as well, what is "alot" to you?
[07:49] <element> i get the error CD-ROM not found when trying to use the live CD on my powerbook
[07:49] <DREAD> .
[07:49] <DREAD> what kind of cd is it?
[07:49] <element> live-CD of kubuntu for powerpc
[07:49] <element> the cd in the powerbook is a dvd-drive
[07:49] <Vge> element: never used a mac, never will
[07:50] <element> dunno what make
[07:50] <DREAD> u burnt it yourself?
[07:50] <element> yea
[07:50] <element> vge: tell me about it i hate the OS
[07:50] <DREAD> hm
[07:50] <element> the hardware is good tho
[07:50] <element> apart from that stupid single click
[07:50] <DREAD> dont talk about the mouse
[07:50] <DREAD> it annoys me
[07:50] <element> well u just plug a mouse into the usb
[07:50] <DREAD> my teacher and i hat a argument over it
[07:50] <element> and then u get right click
[07:50] <DREAD> ah heres the thing
[07:51] <DREAD> THEN WHY GIVE ME A ONE BUTTON MOUSE
[07:51] <DREAD> it should come with one
[07:51] <element> cuz mac want to be different
[07:51] <Vge> oversimplicity
[07:51] <DREAD> hows removing buttons be different
[07:51] <element> they are all about style, whilst not thinking about practicality and ease of use
[07:51] <DREAD> ha
[07:52] <DREAD> lets say for instance the prnt screen button
[07:52] <element> its all part of trying to be seperate from PC's and Windows, which is why they also made the ctrl key the Apple Command key
[07:52] <element> its gay
[07:52] <DREAD> i have to press 3 buttons to do 1 thing
[07:52] <element> ive been spending a long time getting past those issues
[07:52] <element> oh yea print screen button isnt there either
[07:52] <element> i had to install a seperate application to print screen
[07:52] <DREAD> well i only need it for grage band final cut pro and imovie
[07:52] <cycus_zwisus> which web browsers do you use guys on kubuntu?
[07:53] <jpatrick> konqueror
[07:53] <element> well i would tell u if i could get the bloody thing working on my mac :D
[07:53] <DREAD> since im a film student the whole uni has nothing but macs
[07:54] <DREAD> and the best thing for windows is sony vegas and imovie is better than that
[07:54] <DREAD> linux doesnt have anything id imagine
[07:54] <jpatrick> kmediafactory?
[07:54] <DREAD> never heard of it is it good?
[07:54] <h3sp4wn> What do you think pixar etc use ? It is available if you pay for it
[07:55] <jpatrick> DREAD: pretty good to me
[07:55] <DREAD> is it a industry standard or more of a imovie thingy
[07:55] <cycus_zwisus> did any of you use fedora?
[07:55] <DREAD> once
[07:55] <DREAD> dont like it
[07:56] <jpatrick> DREAD: http://susku.pyhaselka.fi/damu/software/kmediafactory/
[07:56] <cycus_zwisus> i don't like it either
[07:56] <jpatrick> err it's for DVDs
[07:57] <DREAD> thats a film editor :P
[07:57] <h3sp4wn> DREAD: what about maya ?
[07:58] <DREAD> maya doesnt edit video
[07:58] <DREAD> or does it?
[07:58] <jpatrick> try it
[07:59] <cycus_zwisus> why there is no usplash in kubuntu with kernels 2.6.15 and above?
[07:59] <DREAD> maya is for cg :P
[08:00] <DREAD> they dont seem to have a video editor
[08:01] <jpatrick> DREAD: look! there's tons of stuff out there
[08:02] <DREAD> okay
[08:02] <DREAD> :P its just usualy u find the good stuff by asking around
[08:04] <stephenkl> How hard would it be to rename my main user?
[08:04] <h3sp4wn> stephenkl: sudo vipw
[08:06] <h3sp4wn> stepjhenkl: find the name of your user and then change it
[08:07] <_dominic> hi anybody here?
[08:07] <element> i am
[08:07] <element> Kubuntu on MAC anyone ?
[08:07] <element> how can i get it working?
[08:07] <_dominic> intel oder g5 mac?
[08:07] <element> g4 powerbook 17inch :)
[08:08] <element> powerpc processor
[08:08] <element> i was trying the live-cd release when i encountered an error saying somin about it cant find my CD-ROM drive
[08:09] <_dominic> sorry :/ i dont know this on powermacs
[08:09] <element> nope not many do :) its ok
[08:11] <cycus_zwisus> windows on mac anyone?
[08:11] <cycus_zwisus> how can i get it working?
[08:11] <element> virtual pc
[08:11] <cycus_zwisus> thanks
[08:11] <element> its very slow on the g4 powerbook
[08:11] <element> i wouldnt recommend it
[08:11] <cycus_zwisus> ubuntu on commodore c64 anyone?
[08:11] <element> on the G5 then it will probably be ok
[08:11] <element> a miricle
[08:11] <element> lol
[08:12] <cycus_zwisus> how can i get it working? :P
[08:12] <wawb> How do I add  users/dirs to vsftp?
[08:12] <cycus_zwisus> kde 3.5.x anyone?
[08:13] <DREAD> doesnt new kde work with old kde stuff?
[08:13] <kkathman> cycus_zwisus: what are you asking exactly?
[08:13] <h3sp4wn> wawb: add the user normally but set the shell to /bin/false
[08:13] <DREAD> i have no idea
[08:13] <kkathman> DREAD:  yes
[08:13] <cycus_zwisus> kkathman: did you upgrade from 3.4.x or did you do a fresh installation?
[08:14] <kkathman> both
[08:14] <kkathman> both on separate machines
[08:14] <kkathman> upgraded on one, and installed fresh on another
[08:14] <cycus_zwisus> the former didn't work for me, there were error messages every 5 minutes
[08:15] <kkathman> cycus_zwisus: what kind of error messages?
[08:15] <cycus_zwisus> especially the ones concerning kwin
[08:15] <kkathman> you were at 3.4.3 or something?
[08:15] <cycus_zwisus> yes
[08:16] <kkathman> you put in the 3.5.2 repos, and did the sudo apt-get update
[08:16] <kkathman> then the dist-upgrade?
[08:16] <cycus_zwisus> i put 3.5.0. and then apt-get upgrade
[08:17] <kkathman> when you add a repo, you must do a sudo apt-get update first
[08:17] <kkathman> then for a KDE install, you must do a dist-upgrade for best results
[08:17] <kkathman> Im pretty sure thats what the kubuntu instructions say
[08:17] <cycus_zwisus> yes, first repos, then apt-get update and finally apt-get upgrade
[08:17] <kkathman> but not a dist-upgrade?
[08:18] <cycus_zwisus> there was no dist-upgrade
[08:18] <kkathman> then to go to 3.5.2 for instance, you have to remove the other repo and put in the new
[08:18] <kkathman> okie dokie..there we go :)
[08:19] <cycus_zwisus> this is what i did
[08:19] <cycus_zwisus> sometimes kubuntu is strange and unpredictable
[08:20] <Mastus> Argh, I think these ATI-drivers aren't too great...
[08:20] <kkathman> shrug...sometimes there are random things that cause one package to be installed out of order
[08:22] <cycus_zwisus> ubuntu is considered more stable, but why? both use the same repositories
[08:23] <jpatrick> cycus_zwisus: I don't know where you get all this stuff from but oh well
[08:25] <cycus_zwisus> jpatrick: didn't you hear such opinions? there are plenty of them
[08:25] <jpatrick> i'm a dev, so anyhoo
[08:27] <cycus_zwisus> jpatrick: so it's all your fault!!
[08:27] <cycus_zwisus> ;)
[08:27] <jpatrick> cycus_zwisus: :'(
[08:28] <jpatrick> i just do what I can
[08:28] <jpatrick> cycus_zwisus: for example: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PatrickDavies
[08:28] <cycus_zwisus> i've been using kubuntu for a year so for me you do much
[08:29] <cycus_zwisus> otherwise i wouldn't be here
[08:30] <cycus_zwisus> hello apokryphos
[08:30] <cycus_zwisus> how's your suse?
[08:30] <jpatrick> cycus_zwisus: right now, I have personal to attend to, then i'll be working kubuntu-es related stuff
[08:31] <jpatrick> stuff*
[08:31] <apokryphos> hi cycus_zwisus; it's doing good. It's pretty amazing how many bugs were squashed in such a short time (RC1 -> RC2)
[08:31] <n3storm> hi everyone
[08:31] <cycus_zwisus> hi n3storm
[08:32] <cycus_zwisus> apokryphos: when is the stable version going to be released?
[08:33] <apokryphos> planned release is 25th
[08:33] <Mastus> does someone know, whether it's possible to get two different resolutions/refresh rates (VGA+Tv-out) out with fglrx drivers...?
[08:33] <element> i keep getting the error "No Common CD-ROM Drive was detected"
[08:33] <element> any idea?
[08:41] <slow-motion> re
[09:28] <slow-motion> bbl
[09:35] <xwolf-> any idea why cant i set my own ip number, just through dhcp am i able to connect anywhere external?
[09:39] <slow-motion> re
[09:42] <xwolf-> the hard way: if i put DHCP, it gets an IP and is able to connect to the net and everything. But, if i set the IP and DNS myself, it will reach the router, but not be able to connect anywhere external. how can i do that? i got a port forwarded to 192.168.254.123 and want to set that as my ip
[09:44] <slow-motion>  /dev/hdc is my dvd drive. bevore the dvd drive there was a cdrom on that port. can i delete links to /dev/hdc that are named cdrom or cdrw under /dev/ delete safely?
[09:45] <jpatrick> I wouldn't
[09:45] <ablyss> xwolf, are you setting the DNS to those your ISP provided?
[09:45] <xwolf-> i've tried like a trillion dns servers
[09:45] <xwolf-> none worked.
[09:46] <xwolf-> i did think it was a dns problem...
[09:46] <slow-motion> it is just so that i dont want more links that i need
[09:46] <ablyss> xwolf,  i'm not sure why you are port forwarding either
[09:46] <frank23> slow-motion: just leave them as they are. when programs look for a cd, often they look at /dev/cdrom and you'll also put CDs in that DVD-Rom
[09:46] <slow-motion> allright
[09:47] <xwolf-> ablyss just ports... 17011 and 65530
[09:47] <slow-motion> but i killed the links under /media and under /
[09:47] <xwolf-> but this is a router issue.
[09:47] <ablyss> xwolf, is this a router your ISP leased to you or one you got yourself?
[09:48] <slow-motion> and made an /media/cdrom and a /media/dvd entry in my fstab. it looks nicer to find a dvd in the file that is named dvd
[09:48] <xwolf-> define 'leased'.
[09:48] <ablyss> i got better things to do man..
[09:48] <slow-motion> mean me?
[09:49] <slow-motion> i want a nice looking system
[09:49] <frank23> slow-motion: you distinguished between CD and DVD in fstab?
[09:49] <xwolf-> is there a way to check which dns am i using through dhcp?
[09:49] <ablyss> just nslookup your ISP
[09:49] <ablyss> that is the DNS you should use
[09:50] <NiceGuy24_> Hi guys. can anyone tell me how to use the MD5SUMS file to check the integrity of an ISO?
[09:50] <ablyss> i.e., nslookup charter.net
[09:50] <slow-motion> yes frank23, because i have a cd burner and a dvd drive and find it stupid to find a dvd always in cdrom0
[09:50] <ablyss> nslookup earthlink.com
[09:51] <slow-motion> and a cdrom in cdrom1
[09:51] <frank23> slow-motion: so you have two entries for /dev/hdc?
[09:51] <slow-motion> no i have /dev(hdc thats my dvd drive ind /dev/hdd tahts ma cdrom drive
[09:52] <frank23> slow-motion: what happens when you put a CD in your dvdrom drive?
[09:52] <slow-motion> hmm
[09:52] <slow-motion> gopd question
[09:54] <slow-motion> frank23 i find it under /media/dvd because it is in my dvd drive
[09:54] <slow-motion> that is ok for me and makes more snse then cdrom0
[09:54] <frank23> slow-motion: ok
[09:55] <SinnerG> A new graphical installer is available on the live CD, allowing Kubuntu to be installed quickly and easily to your hard disk => where ?
[09:55] <frank23> SinnerG: its called expresso
[09:56] <SinnerG> and how can I find it?
[09:56] <SinnerG> I mean where ;p
[09:56] <slow-motion> frank23 i just wanted to change it in a way that i can see where the cd is. /media/cdrom0 and ../cdrom1 are no good names for that.
[09:56] <frank23> SinnerG: I have no idea. I imagine its in the menu somewhere
[09:56] <frank23> slow-motion: ok
[09:57] <uniq> niceguy24_: 'md5sum file.iso' - compare result with md5sum from secure source.
[09:57] <frank23> SinnerG: you're using a dapper live cd right?
[10:02] <NiceGuy24_> uniq: and for the file.ISO what do I put? the file on my drive I just downloaded? or the url of the download site?. Thanks. Do I have to download the file with the Md5SUM code? or what do I do with that long parameter. i.e.:"3ee9eb2611ea57767110b2d984c76357  kubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386.iso"
[10:02] <vge> somebody can make my day and say how i can remove tab switching when scrolling with mousewheel over tabbar?
[10:05] <uniq> niceguy24_: run 'md5sum downloadedfile.iso' that will give you a output like '3ee9eb2611ea57767110b2d984c76357' if that is the same as the md5sum from the trusted location, it's all good :)
[10:05] <NiceGuy24_> uniq: thanks man.
[10:07] <smoosh> hi, someones use kaudiocreator
[10:07] <smoosh> ?
[10:07] <GameOVer69> hey question how come i can edit DRIconf from the konsole using xstart, but when i normally log into kde, and then use the terminal it wont let me?
[10:10] <Otherland> hi there... can anyone help me with some NIS problems ?
[10:10] <smoosh> i can't extract at max speed with kaudiocreator...
[10:11] <Otherland> I've setup an ubuntu server, running ubuntu 5.10..everything seems to work
[10:11] <robotgeek> Otherland: hmm, i wonder if there is #ubuntu-server
[10:12] <Otherland> brb..
[10:12] <samuel> I've got a "burning" question involving how Kubuntu manages to not overheat while another distro does.  Anyone up for duscussing ACPI?
[10:13] <robotgeek> samuel: might want to try mailing list, actually
[10:14] <samuel> Thanks, RobotGeek, but I've actually been RTFMing for at least 7 hours over this issue and would prefer to chat with another person ;-)
[10:15] <robotgeek> samuel: would have loved to, but no idea abou ACPI issues
[10:21] <smoosh> anyones can extract cd audio tracks at max speed in kubuntu?
[10:24] <troy> smoosh: what version of kubuntu?
[10:24] <smoosh> troy: breezy
[10:25] <Menno>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY fiets
[10:25] <troy> breezy and older have DMA mode turned off by default for optical drives which slows it the hell down
[10:25] <frank23> Menno: now we all know your password ;)
[10:26] <troy> smoosh: one second, there's an easy fix, but I'll see if I can find a website for it
[10:26] <smoosh> troy: the dma is on with hdparm...
[10:26] <Menno> well it not fiets!!
[10:26] <smoosh> troy: ok
[10:26] <troy> smoosh: are you using kaudiocreator or audiocd:/
[10:27] <smoosh> troy: kaudiocreator...
[10:27] <troy> does it seem to stall when ripping?
[10:27] <Menno> do i have contact anyway?
[10:27] <NiceGuy24_> uniq: I did that and they came different. does it mean I have to download it again to make sure it will work fine?
[10:27] <smoosh> troy: it rip at slow speed...
[10:28] <Menno> can someone see this message please?
[10:28] <troy> Menno: I can
[10:29] <Menno> thanks Troy so it working
[10:31] <troy> smoosh: if you type in the konsole "hdparm /dev/hd?" - does it say "using_dma = 1" for your cd drive?
[10:33] <smoosh> troy: yes dma=1
[10:33] <GameOVer69> !q
[10:33] <ubotu> GameOVer69: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:33] <ahmeni> Anyone have any idea why my aterm's TERM is being overridden with TERM=rxvtXcursor.theme: kubuntu?
[10:33] <troy> hrmm, since that is not the problem, I'll bet it's a setting in cdparanoia that can be changed...
[10:34] <GameOVer69> anyone here familiar with DRIconf?
[10:34] <troy> but I don't know how to do that :/
[10:34] <smoosh> troy: the strange thing is if i use cdda2wav, it rip at max speed...
[10:34] <ahmeni> my .Xdefaults is fine, can't even find a reference to Xcursor in any of my bash scripts..
[10:34] <smoosh> troy: ...and then also kaudiocreator go at max speed...
[10:35] <troy> smoosh: file a bug
[10:35] <smoosh> troy: do you have breezy?
[10:35] <troy> smoosh: I did until yesterday :/
[10:36] <troy> worked quick enough for me that I didn't think there was a problem
[10:36] <smoosh> troy: but your kaudiocreator rip at max speed?
[10:37] <Menno> something completely different: how can i change my password?
[10:37] <Menno> in Xchat i mean
[10:37] <troy> smoosh: you know, I'm not sure - it ripped fast enough to keep up with the encoding process so I never through anything was unusual
[10:38] <troy> s/through/thought
[10:39] <smoosh> troy: oh, ok...
[10:39] <troy> I could quickly try it on dapper here and see what it does
[10:39] <uniq> niceguy24_: that basically means the files are not identical. incomplete download or something.
[10:40] <troy> smoosh: the cd sounds like it's spinning a hell of a lot faster than it did in breezy
[10:41] <troy> like 20 seconds to rip the first track
[10:41] <Seantater> That's usually not a bad thing
[10:41] <Seantater> Are you using kaudiocreator
[10:41] <troy> yeah
[10:41] <smoosh> troy: maybe it's a breezy bug...
[10:41] <troy> smoosh: dapper also has new hdparm defaults which may help
[10:42] <smoosh> troy: can you tell me?
[10:42] <NiceGuy24_> uniq: does it happen frequently? I just downloaded the file, should I try to download it again? For example you, when you download files and check them, they come out all good?
[10:51] <Otherland> is there a way to change a users uid ?
[10:54] <uniq> otherland: 'usermod -u newuid username' - 'man usermod' for more info.
[10:55] <ubuntu> First of all, I admit that I did a very stupid thing with a beta product, now, having got that out of the way, the Kubuntu 6.06 live installer deleted my partition tables without finishing the installation.
[10:56] <uniq> niceguy24_: matches. as an example 95833fc045a9a17e7f25e22d31863306  kubuntu-6.06-beta-live-powerpc.iso
[10:56] <Otherland> uniq: thanks :-)
[10:56] <uniq> niceguy24_: matches the md5sum from http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.06/MD5SUMS
[10:56] <ubuntu> Any recomendations for data recovery?
[10:57] <uniq> gnite.
[10:58] <ubuntu> If I use QT Parted and set up my partitions exactly how they were before, telling it not to reformat, will I be able to access my data again?
[10:59] <andre_> after a recent update all my fonts appear very small anyone have an idea why?
[10:59] <andre_> i'm using dapper.
[10:59] <uniq> ubuntu: if the partitions were re-formatted by the installer you're probably out of luck. if they were not formatted there is still hope.
[10:59] <ubuntu> uniq - I don't think they were reformatted, if they were, it was with the quick options since I the end of the installer was so fast and abrupt...
[10:59] <uniq> ubuntu: if only the partition table were changes that could work.
[11:00] <uniq> ubuntu: try, if the partition were re-formatted you're probably out of luck. Hope you have backups. :[
[11:01] <uniq> !wajig
[11:01] <ubuntu> uniq: (-8  Thanks.  I have some backups.
[11:01] <ubuntu> Feature Request: Partition setup in the graphical installer.  (-8
[11:01] <uniq> i have to goto bed, gnite all.
[11:02] <frank23> ubuntu there isn't any? I never tried the graphical installer. You're talking about expresso right?
[11:03] <troy> last I tried espresso (the beta livecd for kubuntu), it crashed on the parition handler - so I know it's there at least :P
[11:06] <m5m> how do I enable the konqueror sidebar?  I just installed a plugin for it, but I can't find the sidebar anwyhere :-P
[11:12] <paulvolk> Was anyone in here before when that guy was complaining about Ubuntu being "unusable"?
[11:13] <ubuntu> m5m: You mean the F9 sidebar?
[11:14] <ubuntu> m5m: You
[11:14] <frank23> Riddell: please check out https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kde-systemsettings/+bug/38530   It leaves a new install of kubuntu unusable because you can't setup networking.
[11:14] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 38530 in kde-systemsettings "systemsettings crashes when you try to configure a network interface on a fresh install" [Normal,Unconfirmed] 
[11:14] <ubuntu> m5m: You're probably talking about something different since the F9 sidebar comes as part of Konqueror.
[11:14] <Riddell> frank23: it's on my todo list
[11:14] <frank23> Riddell: ok. great ;)
[11:19] <m5m> nope ubuntu that was it!  the F9 sidebar :-P thanks a bunch.  I dl'ed a delicious bookmarking feature that fits into that sidebar... funny I couldn't find the sidebar in the menus
[11:23] <ahmeni> ffjjjfff
[11:24] <frank23> ahmeni: that's like the first thing you learn when you learn to type ;)
[11:24] <robotgeek> m5m: btw, bookmarkelets go into minitools in konq
[11:24] <ahmeni> heh, my screen session is acting up.. i still remember doing fff jjj on old Amigas
[11:25] <bixter> any1 know when mesa is going to be updated to 6.5.1?
[11:29] <mkulke> hello, i've been using breezy for quite a while. today i tried a dapper kubuntu livecd and it kind of broke my wlan pcmcia card :/
[11:29] <mkulke> on breezy i used the ndiswrapper driver w/o problems
[11:30] <mkulke> dapper obviously uses the mrv8k driver
[11:30] <mkulke> which writes a firmware to the card on every module load
[11:30] <grendel> is there a spanish user here? i need some help ;)
[11:30] <mkulke> dmesg says there is a firmware file missing
[11:31] <mkulke> i extracted the firmware file using the tools on the mrv8k driver website
[11:31] <mkulke> but there is null information on where to put those firmware files
[11:32] <robotgeek> mkulke: usually /usr/lib/firmware
[11:34] <grendel> (well, if someone can help me: i get "unknown host" when ping to any url [it only happens some times). dns are right. i friend of mine tell me that it's a kubuntu problem)
[11:35] <frank23> !es
[11:35] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:35] <grendel> thanks ;)
[11:36] <mkulke> robotgeek: i placed the mrv8k-b.fw here, but dmesg still says: "mrv8k: Firmware 'mrv8k-b.fw' not available or load failed."
[11:36] <mkulke> i had to create /usr/lib/firmware btw
[11:36] <robotgeek> mkulke: maybe u have to extract the firmware from that file, not sure
[11:37] <ryanakca> is there a utility for dealing with .sea files (mac self extractors)?
[11:37] <mkulke> no, according to several forum entries it's the correct file
[11:38] <robotgeek> mkulke: hmm, no idea, sorry
[11:40] <puckman> anyone still awake?
[11:40] <robotgeek> puckman: depends on your question :P
[11:41] <mkulke> robotgeek: it's /lib/firmware/
[11:42] <robotgeek> mkulke: ah, okay :)
[11:42] <mkulke> robotgeek: thanks it's working now
[11:42] <mkulke> at least i hope so
[11:42] <mkulke> i have to reboot into breezy
[11:42] <robotgeek> mkulke: could you please wikify the instructions for your card
[11:42] <robotgeek> mkulke: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[11:42] <mkulke> i think i should trigger a bugreport aswell
[11:43] <mkulke> because trying a livecd shouldn't kill your wlan card
[11:49] <mkulke> damn
[11:49] <mkulke> that did not help
[11:49] <mkulke> seems my wlan card is gone for good :P
[11:49] <mkulke> at least with ndiswrapper
[11:54] <Zaire> I have a question for installing the manufacturer driver for and Nvidia fx5200 whats the apt-get command for aquiring the kernel sources, gcc and make files?
[11:54] <robotgeek> Zaire, sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:54] <robotgeek> !nvidia
[11:54] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:55] <Zaire> so that command will show me the stuff I need?
[11:55] <robotgeek> Zaire: i'm not familiar with the nvidia stuff, you might want to read that link
[11:56] <Zaire> k the reason Im asking is I thought it would be imperitive to before I format and install kubuntu
[11:56] <Zaire> lol
[11:56] <robotgeek> Zaire: heh
[11:57] <satempler> Zaire: well you will get 2D graphics
[11:57] <satempler> on default
[11:57] <satempler> that link tells you how to get 3D graphics working
[11:58] <Zaire> any working graphics without a crash would be nice lol
[11:58] <satempler> Zaire: ya it should work have you tried the live cd
[11:58] <Zaire> Ive found Nvidia to be an unstable card to run with certain distros of linux
[11:58] <Zaire> nope
[11:58] <satempler> the live cd will tell you if it can be done without formating
[11:59] <satempler> Zaire: i have found quite the oppisite but that was back in the Geforce 4 days
[11:59] <Zaire> the 2 copies I have are breezy badger i386 and the AMD64 versions
[12:00] <satempler> Zaire: can you download the Live CD
[12:00] <Zaire> possibly how big is it?
[12:00] <satempler> in other words do you have broadband
[12:00] <slow-motion> n8
[12:00] <satempler> its 650MB or so
[12:00] <Zaire> yes lol I like to call it dialup on speed
[12:01] <satempler> ha
[12:01] <Zaire> 256k d/l speed 128k up lol
[12:01] <satempler> wow
[12:01] <satempler> I have 9Mbps down and 1Mbps up