[12:29] <LaserJock> pretty dead IRC today
[12:29] <crimsun> pretty dead archive, too.
[12:33] <bddebian> Dead archive?
[12:33] <crimsun> I can't reach CC.archive.ubuntu.com at all
[12:33] <bddebian> ah
[12:39] <LaserJock> well, I got the beta text installer .iso downloaded
[12:40] <crimsun> g'luck
[12:40] <LaserJock> well, at least the partitioner works better on the text installer
[12:41] <LaserJock> even if I can't figure  out the LVM, I can still do it the old fashioned way ;-)
[02:32] <joelbryan> hello, how do I upload a package in universe?
[02:37] <bddebian> joelbryan: Well first you need to become an MOTU if you are not one :-)
[02:37] <joelbryan> I'm not yet one
[02:37] <bddebian> Then you cannot upload, sorry
[02:39] <bddebian> Is it a new package or a fix?
[03:05] <joelbryan> bddebian: it's http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport
[03:07] <bddebian> Ah cool
[03:10] <joelbryan> I've uploaded it in revu using anonymous, but I just recently recieve an email that I should use my email as a login. should I re upload again?
[03:12] <bddebian> joelbryan: Probably wouldn't hurt
[03:12] <bddebian> Why does apsfilter suggest dvips?  dvips hasn't been in Debian for a while afaict
[03:28] <StevenK> bddebian: dvips has been sucked into tetex-bin
[03:28] <bddebian> Aye
[03:28] <bddebian> Thx StevenK
[03:29] <StevenK> So apsfilter should Suggest tetex-bin, unless there is something stronger on it already.
[03:37] <bddebian> Anyone know where .mime files are supposed to go that get processed by updatemimedb or whatever it's called?
[06:22] <tuxmaniac> Hey is REVU working?
[06:23] <crimsun> afaict, yes. Why?
[06:23] <tuxmaniac> crimsun: The site is not loading for me.. It is waiting for data from revu
[06:24] <crimsun> loads fine here.
[06:25] <tuxmaniac> crimsun: Can you find my newly uploaded package xcircuit there?
[06:26] <crimsun> no.
[06:28] <tuxmaniac> something is wrong!
[06:28] <tuxmaniac> I did a dput *.changes> and the upload went smothly
[06:28] <tuxmaniac> crimsun: Is it the right method
[06:28] <tuxmaniac> crimsun: I am a new packager
[06:30] <crimsun> is your key in the revu keyring?
[06:30] <Hobbsee> REVU's down here too crimsun
[06:30] <Hobbsee> no, wait, it's come back, hitting refresh
[06:31] <tuxmaniac> crimsun: yeah
[06:31] <crimsun> tuxmaniac: you'll have to ask a revu admin to look, then
[06:31] <LaserJock> hi tuxmaniac
[06:31] <tuxmaniac> Hi LaserJock
[06:32] <crimsun> as in shrubbery "ni"?
[06:32] <Hobbsee> crimsun: of course.
[06:32] <crimsun> I can never tell.
[06:32] <bddebian> NI
[06:32] <Hobbsee> ni @ bddebian!
[06:32] <crimsun> beware, I have sharp pointy teeth
[06:33] <bddebian> haha
[06:33] <crimsun> someone has been playing with the beacon again
[06:33] <LaserJock> RUN AWAY!!
[06:34] <Hobbsee> hey no, we're not going into the beacon section!
[06:34] <Hobbsee> yes, RUN AWAY!  RUN AWAY!
[07:17] <answerguy> I have an off-topic question: I've just created a very simple PAM module ... and I've packaged it up as a tarball and in RPM form.  (The tarball contains a working .spec file .. which I've tested)
[07:17] <answerguy> Once ... many eons ago ... I "debiatized" some package ... just to teach myself how.
[07:17] <answerguy> The question: where would be the best place for me to ask for a little coaching on how to package this PAM module for Debian/Ubuntu as well?
[07:18] <Hobbsee> answerguy: here, and see http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[07:18] <answerguy> Actually the question *here* is ... a little more specific:  do I have to have a .diff?
[07:18] <crimsun> yes, because your module is not native.
[07:18] <answerguy> If my original source tree has a ./debian directory can I just package with that way?
[07:19] <crimsun> yes, but it still needs a diff.
[07:20] <ajmitch> afternoon
[07:20] <crimsun> 'afternoon, ajmitch
[07:21] <Hobbsee> hi ajmitch!
[07:21] <ajmitch> how's it going?
[07:23] <crimsun> not bad, you?
[07:23] <ajmitch> alright, just been visiting parents
[07:23] <crimsun> ah, they're doing well?
[07:23] <ajmitch> yep
[07:24] <crimsun> excellent
[07:24] <ajmitch> was just celebrating dad's 50th birthday
[07:24] <crimsun> cool :)
[07:25] <ajmitch> yeah, it was good to see the family again
[07:27] <LaserJock_away> hmm, quick question. should I run into any problems using XFS for / ?
[07:27] <ajmitch> you may do
[07:28] <ajmitch> I've only heard of rumours of grub issues lately
[07:28] <LaserJock_away> well, I finally got dapper beta installed and I went all crazy with the FS stuff
[07:28] <LaserJock_away> I did LVM with XFS
[07:29] <LaserJock_away> now I am thinking to myself if I maybe shouldn't have done XFS
[07:29] <ajmitch> you're seeing a few issues?
[07:29] <LaserJock_away> no, nothing yet
[07:29] <LaserJock_away> I just wondered if you more "experienced" guys would know
[07:30] <LaserJock_away> I guess I can switch it latter if I want, I made a large backup non-LVM ext3 partition
[07:30] <crimsun> I ran XFS on / for years
[07:31] <LaserJock_away> with no problems? what do you use currently?
[07:31] <crimsun> at first I had /boot as ext2 (then ext3), but it was no big deal
[07:31] <crimsun> eventually I wiped out the separate /boot
[07:32] <LaserJock_away> I have /boot as a seperate partition right now since I like to store other kernels there
[07:32] <crimsun> I run JFS on lvm (Breezy) on one older machine, and this X41-2527 uses ext3 for /
[07:32] <Chipzz> I've been wonderig the same thing actually; what if upstream keeps track of all debian/ changes (and no diff is *needed*); do you stillhave to ship an empty .diff.gz?
[07:33] <LaserJock_away> Chipzz: my experience is that it is nice to still seperate them in case a bug fix needs to be quickly done
[07:33] <crimsun> Chipzz: is the package native?
[07:33] <LaserJock_away> Chipzz: it is much easier if you don't have to upload the entire source tarball each time
[07:34] <answerguy> crimsun: What does "native" mean in this context?
[07:35] <Chipzz> crimsun: lets presume for a moment that the upstream maintainer is the debian packager and he keeps changes in upstream cvs/svn/whatever
[07:36] <answerguy> Meanwhile let's presume that the package maintainer is the author but that the package not in any archive ... it's just out on some website
[07:36] <Chipzz> and in such case, the upstream maintainer would commit any changes needed in debian/ upstream the moment they're needed
[07:37] <Chipzz> or, upstream != native, but debian maintainer is authorized to make commits in upstream cvs/svn/whatever
[07:37] <crimsun> Chipzz: a diff is extremely useful. That's precisely the situation with vlc.
[07:37] <Chipzz> and debian/ubuntu maintainer decides to keep changes in upstream
[07:37] <crimsun> Sam is both upstream developer and its Debian maintainer
[07:38] <Chipzz> is there a reason to keep a diff.gz in such case?
[07:38] <crimsun> yes, for Debian-specific things
[07:39] <Chipzz> for example, debian maintainer wants to any user to be able to build a package from upstream cvs/svn/etc at whatever time possible, and keeps upstream up-to-date
[07:40] <Chipzz> crimsun: let me put it another way: is possible, would there be a reason *not* to keep the debian/ dir in sync upstream all the time?
[07:40] <Chipzz> s/is/if/
[07:42] <crimsun> Chipzz: that's a maintainer preference, really. Ideally, no, but if the package was not written specifically for Debian/Ubuntu, then it's non-native and must have a diff.
[07:45] <Chipzz> crimsun: so the debian/ubuntu archive would still contain a diff, which, if expanded, would be 0 bytes?
[07:46] <crimsun> I've never seen that case, but if so, it could happen
[07:49] <Chipzz> I'm just assuming someone with an upstream version ocntrol account, with a big interest in debian/ubuntu, would, with the approval of upstream, instantly commit any changes in the debian dir
[07:51] <Chipzz> actually, I have been in the case of having a gnome cvs account in the past, and was interested i commiting changes in upstream cvs, but never dared/bothered to ask the debian maintainers
[07:51] <crimsun> it would be more sensible imo to maintain debian/ on alioth, perhaps
[07:52] <Chipzz> but lets say for a moment upstream either didn't care/did agree?
[07:52] <Chipzz> what about commiting changes on alioth in upstream?
[07:53] <Chipzz> (yes, I know, this is very theoretical, but I'm just wondering)
[07:55] <answerguy> As a practical matter I've installed the dh_make, pbuilder, lintian and linda pages, etc and done an apt-get source hello
[07:55] <crimsun> Chipzz: personally maintaining debian/ outside of the upstream source makes things easier
[07:56] <answerguy> ... and I've created a copy of my (upstream) source tree and copied in the hello.../debian/* files thereunder.  So now I've edited the changelog, control and other files, and removed the postinst and prerm scripts (which are unnecessary for this package)
[07:56] <Chipzz> (I'm asking because in practice, if there *is* a debian dir upstream at all, most upstream maintainers don't care to keep it up-to-date; so you would have an out-of-date upstream debian dir whch wouldn't work most of the time anyway)
[07:56] <answerguy> Now I'm looking at the debian/rules file.  What a mess.
[07:56] <crimsun> take for instance quod libet, where Joe is both upstream co-developer and Debian maintainer. debian/ is maintained in upstream svn but in a completely separate section from the QL/EF source.
[07:58] <crimsun> answerguy: some people would argue that cdbs is far preferable.
[07:58] <answerguy> Well, I'm not here to argue.  I don't even know what a cdbs is
[07:58] <crimsun> it's also covered in the Packaging Guide
[07:59] <crimsun> (well, an introduction to it at least)
[07:59] <answerguy> So I see
[08:00] <answerguy> So I have a question for you crimsun ... would you be willing to look at the sources to my package and give some suggestions?
[08:00] <Chipzz> crimsun: anyway, my apologies for bothering you, I should have asked on a mailinglist in the first place I guess ;))
[08:00] <crimsun> np, you're not bothering
[08:00] <answerguy> It's pretty trivial; one .c file which compile into a .so PAM module.
[08:01] <answerguy> http://www.starshine.org/jimd/pam_primesudo/
[08:01] <crimsun> answerguy: I'm busy atm, perhaps later today?
[08:01] <answerguy> NP
[08:01] <crimsun> (someone else can, too)
[08:01] <answerguy> I'll still take a crack at doing it myself, but I'm a bit tired now.
[08:01] <Chipzz> crimsun: nn :)
[08:02] <answerguy> the coding for this was trivial (just took Solar Designers pam_mktemp package, ripped about half of it, added less than a dozen lines of my own and it works)
[08:02] <answerguy> But documenting and packaging is all the real work.
[09:03] <Hobbsee> to all who ask, no, i was not nick changing at random, i was testing someone
[09:04] <Hobbsee> s/someone/something
[09:10] <crimsun> stop changing nicks randomly@!
[09:10] <crimsun> ;p
[09:11] <Hobbsee> crimsun: sorry!
[09:11] <Hobbsee> konv has dodgy scripting!
[09:11] <Hobbsee> it's better than opping random people by accident!
[09:20] <sivang> morning all
[09:20] <crimsun> 'morning, sivang
[09:22] <Hobbsee> hi sivang
[09:27] <sivang> hey crimsun , Hobbsee , how's it going ?
[09:27] <Hobbsee> cold!!!!
[09:28] <Hobbsee> :P
[09:28] <sivang> Hobbsee: cold? where are you based at?
[09:29] <Hobbsee> sivang: sydney.
[09:30] <crimsun> sivang: not too bad, finding a bedtime story
[10:04] <nomed> hi all
[10:21] <nomed> does ubuntu livecd use same gdm.conf as the installed system ?
[10:34] <ajmitch> \sh: documented the cdimage stuff yet? ;)
[10:34] <zakame> hi all
[10:34] <\sh> ajmitch:no didn't have the time last week...was all the week down in karlsruhe to get the new job running
[10:34] <ajmitch> \sh: ok, I'll accept that :)
[10:35] <ajmitch> when do you start working?
[10:36] <\sh> ajmitch: oh well..that was a bit strange...I came to karlsruhe around noon, then I had a 30min interview, around 3pm I signed an NDA, and at 6pm I was sitting in a meeting to discuss what I will do to setup FAI :)
[10:36] <ajmitch> hehe nice :)
[10:36] <ajmitch> very quick
[10:37] <\sh> yeah...this guy is a debian freak :)
[10:37] <ajmitch> always a good sign
[10:39] <\sh> so I hope when I write my invoice next week, I get the money asap...and I can transfer some money back to the donators :)
[10:39] <ajmitch> :)
[11:20] <Yagisan> ajmitch: I see you finally overtook me.
[11:26] <ajmitch> Yagisan: yes, I did
[01:51] <phanatic> hi people
[01:52] <Yagisan> G'day phanatic
[01:52] <phanatic> hello Yagisan
[03:39] <bddebian> Heya gang
[03:40] <bddebian> Hi Hobbsee
[03:49] <ajmitch> hello bddebian, Hobbsee :)
[03:54] <Hobbsee> me?  excited?  not in particular, why?
[04:30] <zakame> hi all
[04:30] <Hobbsee> hi zakame
[04:31] <zakame> heya Hobbsee!
[04:31] <highvoltage> zzzzakame!
[04:31] <phanatic> hey zakame
[04:31] <bddebian> Oh, Hi over here too zakame :-)
[04:31] <zakame> hi phanatic
[04:31] <zakame> heya bddebian ! :D
[04:39] <joelbryan> hello, how to be a MOTU member?
[04:43] <phanatic> joelbryan: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes
[04:43] <phanatic> upload packages to revu
[04:43] <joelbryan> thanks
[04:43] <joelbryan> just got a new package, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCommercialSupport
[04:43] <phanatic> be arund for a couple of months, and you'll become a motu ;)
[04:43] <phanatic> s/arund/around
[04:43] <joelbryan> kewl!
[04:54] <zakame> cool new app
[05:27] <zakame> hello \sh
[05:27] <\sh> hey zakame
[06:39] <jpatrick> LaserJock_away: warn me when you're back
[07:00] <tuxmaniac> Any Revu Admin here!!?
[07:00] <jpatrick> not sure...
[07:00] <tuxmaniac> I want to know how much time will it take for a uploaded package to get reflected on the site
[07:00] <jpatrick> 5 minutes
[07:00] <tuxmaniac> I uploaded  reflecteda package around 12 hrs back! And still not yet
[07:01] <tuxmaniac> I uploaded a package around 12 hrs back! And still not yet
[07:02] <jpatrick> what's it called?
[07:02] <tuxmaniac> XCircuit
[07:03] <tuxmaniac> I used dput <*.changes> command
[07:03] <tuxmaniac> jpatrick: It uploaded four files after verifying my sig!! But still it has not got reflected
[07:03] <jpatrick> tuxmaniac: what's your default dput server?
[07:04] <jpatrick> you may of have uploaded to ubuntu
[07:04] <jpatrick> try "dput revu *.changes"
[07:04] <tuxmaniac> Oh ok.
[07:07] <tuxmaniac> jpatrick: Yeah I see the mistake!
[07:08] <tuxmaniac> dput.cf not configured properly
[07:08] <jpatrick> ok, there you go
[07:09] <tuxmaniac> jpatrick: I need help configuring it! the default_host_main is pointing to ubuntu
[07:09] <tuxmaniac> jpatrick: If I am right it should point to rev?
[07:09] <jpatrick> yep
[07:09] <jpatrick> "revu"
[07:10] <tuxmaniac> jpatrick: Also the fqdn should be chaned to upload.revu.com?
[07:11] <jpatrick> no
[07:11] <jpatrick> defaults are fine
[07:12] <jpatrick> just try dput revu *.changes
[07:13] <tuxmaniac> jpatrick: Error is No host revu found in config
[07:13] <jpatrick> ...
[07:14] <tuxmaniac> If I change fqdm setting to upload.revu.com
[07:14] <tuxmaniac> it checks my signature and says good.. And then pops the following error
[07:14] <jpatrick> tuxmaniac: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/677155
[07:14] <tuxmaniac> Connection refused.
[07:15] <jpatrick> put that into your /etc/dput.cf ^
[07:17] <tuxmaniac> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/677164
[07:17] <tuxmaniac> After doing the changes the above error pops up.. So the server has got my upload?
[07:18] <jpatrick> ...
[07:18] <jpatrick> i don't see it in incoming/
[07:19] <tuxmaniac> Then how is this error
[07:21] <jpatrick> tuxmaniac: beyond me, sorry
[07:22] <tuxmaniac> jpatrick: Ok. No probs
[07:22] <tuxmaniac> bddebian on ubuntu-bugs is tryi to sort it also :)
[07:36] <phanatic> hi people
[07:40] <tuxmaniac> hi paniq
[07:40] <tuxmaniac> hi phanatic
[07:41] <phanatic> hello tuxmaniac
[07:44] <bddebian> Hello phanatic
[07:44] <phanatic> hey bddebian
[08:03] <sivang> re all
[08:04] <awb4422> morning all
[08:05] <bddebian> wb sivang
[08:05] <bddebian> Hello awb4422
[08:07] <sivang> hey bddebian , still breaking stuff? :)
[08:08] <sivang> slomo: gonna clean the rules file now, do that build-indep change, then will you be up for some review?
[08:08] <sivang> slomo: (re: HomeUserBackup)
[08:08] <slomo> sivang: sure... just give me the url
[08:08] <bddebian> sivang: Of course :-)
[08:08] <awb4422> I'm sure you guys get this question all the time..well at I least I hope you do..
[08:08] <sivang> bddebian: hehe, you always make me laugh with how you describe what you do ;)
[08:09] <sivang> slomo: k, in about 30 minutes from now
[08:09] <awb4422> but I really want to help - and I'm hoping to just hang out in here while I learn some stuff if that's cool
[08:09] <sivang> slomo: then, how do I upload subsequent versions?
[08:09] <awb4422> eventually I'd like to become a MOTU-Hopeful
[08:09] <slomo> sivang: i don't understand your question ;) upload to where?
[08:10] <sivang> slomo: after the inital upload, can we have an arrangemnet to quick upload for fixes and progress?
[08:10] <awb4422> and maybe maintain openafs packages if possible
[08:10] <slomo> sivang: sure... just ping me whenever you want something uploaded :)
[08:11] <sivang> slomo: not something, but this specific thing :) HUB
[08:12] <slomo> sivang: sure :) well, something was a bit broad anyway (think of the kernel etc ;) )
[08:14] <sivang> slomo: indeed, which I won't touch even after I have been granted main upload rights.
[08:14] <hub> sivang: stop pinging me
[08:16] <slomo> hub: a package will be named after you soon ;)
[08:18] <sivang> hub: sorry :-(
[08:18] <sivang> hub: it's just that HomeUserBackup shortcut is your nick :)
[08:18] <sivang> slomo: heh
[08:19] <sivang> slomo: should I touch the arch-build target ?
[08:20] <jpatrick> haha
[08:21] <slomo> sivang: do it how you think it would make sense :)
[08:21] <sivang> slomo: okay, I leave it untouched as I see it removes the .bzr meta data. I assume this makes the buildds happy.
[08:25] <zul__> right time to catch up with bddebian
[08:27] <bddebian> Never happen.. Mwuhahaha
[08:28] <zul__> im a quarter a way there ;)
[08:29] <bddebian> I'm kidding, I hope you surpass me :-)
[08:31] <zul__> i know...im very competetive though
[08:34] <sivang> zul__ , bddebian : talking about who fixed more bugs?
[08:34] <zul__> yep..
[08:35] <sivang> slomo: although I read some bits about make files in the GNU manual, could you give a short concise explenation for the .PHONEY target and it's dependants ?
[08:36] <slomo> sivang: afaik the .PHONY lists all rules that are meant to be real rules and not files
[08:37] <sivang> slomo: ah, makes sense with I found in this makefile
[08:37] <sivang> slomo: thanks
[08:40] <zul__> ooh...crocodile dundee is on
[08:43] <sivang> slomo: re s/unstable/dapper, should I do this only in the changlog or is there another place where this is taken from?
[08:43] <slomo> only changelog
[08:44] <sivang> k
[09:27] <jpatrick> LaserJock_away: here: http://www.kubuntu-es.org/jpatrick/parches/ubuntupackguide-20060423.diff
[09:52] <TTT_Travis> hi guys, I develop Ubuntu Center ( http://ubuntucenter.info ) I did a pre-Alpha release last month I did make a deb to install it but for my postinst script I just used a simple shell script that asked some question and I am working on making better packaging structure. I am wondering how to make it ask questions using those blue ncurses popup windows
[09:52] <TTT_Travis> is there a guide somewhere on howto make them?
[09:55] <zyga> TTT_Travis: debian packaging policy, use debconf stuff instead of hand-made questions
[09:56] <zyga> I'm not fluent in that so I cannot tell you the details but the policy manual it thick enough to help
[09:56] <TTT_Travis> k
[09:56] <TTT_Travis> debconf
[09:56] <TTT_Travis> gotcha
[09:57] <zyga> TTT_Travis: note that asking questions during install is a pain in the ass
[09:57] <zyga> don't do it unless there is really no other way around
[10:00] <TTT_Travis> k
[10:00] <TTT_Travis> I get what you're saying
[10:01] <TTT_Travis> I think I have an idea on howto make it all web based
[10:02] <zyga> package installation?
[10:03] <TTT_Travis> no
[10:03] <TTT_Travis> right now during installation it asks like what password you want to use to access ubuntu center and stuff
[10:03] <TTT_Travis> but I think I can make the web based
[10:04] <zyga> TTT_Travis: you can make ~/.some-file or even /etc/some-file, that's easier
[10:05] <TTT_Travis> yeah but its no config based
[10:06] <TTT_Travis> and since this is a web based tool a web based setup is appropriate
[10:06] <zyga> but the password can be, right/
[10:06] <TTT_Travis> so I think thats what I will do
[10:06] <TTT_Travis> what?
[10:07] <zyga> if all you need to ask is the password then you can either ask at runtime/first-run or put it in some per-user config file
[10:07] <TTT_Travis> yeah
[10:07] <TTT_Travis> first run time
[10:07] <TTT_Travis> so it would be the first time someone goes to ubuntu center in there web browser
[10:19] <sivang> slomo: okay, I think I'm ready. one last thing -
[10:19] <sivang> slomo: dhlobach noted I should alos upload and .orig
[10:19] <sivang> slomo: yu didn't mention anything about that, what do you think ?
[10:19] <slomo> either make a native package or don't make one
[10:19] <slomo> and i thought you want to make a native package :)
[10:21] <sivang> slomo: hmm right, however , HUBackup could be used on any debian/ubuntu derivatives, and maybe from source if the distro supports /etc/adduser.conf
[10:22] <sivang> what do you think?
[10:23] <slomo> make it non-native and make separate release without debian packaging if it could work on other distros too
[10:23] <slomo> make it native if it's debian specific
[10:24] <sivang> okay, so currently it's debian specific
[10:24] <sivang> so it's gonna be native :)
[10:26] <sivang> slomo: http://muse.19inch.net/~sivan/upbackup
[10:26] <sivang> slomo: let me know about it now
[10:27] <slomo> sivang: i'll take a look in ~1 hour
[10:27] <sivang> slomo: okay, thanks
[10:27] <sivang> slomo: I may go to sleep by then , let's hope I won't have any show-stoppers :)
[10:37] <cbx33> hi guys, anyone able to answer my questions about REVU?
[10:42] <phanatic> cbx33: i hope i can help you...
[10:42] <cbx33> phanatic, ahhh kewl
[10:42] <cbx33> I'm not a MOTU
[10:43] <cbx33> but I fixed a bug in a package
[10:43] <cbx33> uploaded a debdiff to launchpad
[10:43] <cbx33> two questions
[10:43] <cbx33> 1) What do I change the status of the bug to
[10:43] <cbx33> 2) Someone said I could upload the patched source to REVU
[10:43] <cbx33> if the answer to 2 is yes....what exactly do i need to submit and how :p
[10:44] <sivang> slomo: crap, I forgot one debug option I need to remove, re-uploading
[10:44] <phanatic> cbx33: for 2) i don't think you need to upload it to revu
[10:45] <cbx33> someone said it would happen quicker if I did?
[10:46] <cbx33> but i would submit it for a UVF one of the wiki's said?
[10:46] <phanatic> i don't really think so
[10:46] <phanatic> for a bugfix you don't need an uvfe afaik
[10:46] <cbx33> no no
[10:46] <cbx33> but I have filed a UVF
[10:47] <cbx33> on an unrelated issue
[10:47] <phanatic> you should assign the bug to the motu-reviewers
[10:47] <phanatic> and they'll take care of it
[10:47] <cbx33> ok
[11:11] <Zdra> hi ! I just uploaded a package to universe using the howto there: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU?action=show&redirect=REVU
[11:11] <Zdra> but I don't understand how and where I can see my package
[11:12] <Zdra> where are comments from MOTU members if they say something on my package ?
[11:13] <Gloubiboulga> Zdra, on http://revu.tauware.de
[11:13] <phanatic> http://revu.tauware.de
[11:13] <phanatic> and your package is not in universe yet
[11:13] <phanatic> just up for reviewing
[11:13] <phanatic> hey Gloubiboulga :)
[11:13] <Gloubiboulga> hi phanatic :)
[11:13] <Zdra> phanatic: yes of course, that's my first package, so I'm waiting for comments ;-)
[11:14] <Zdra> thx
[11:14] <phanatic> Zdra: okay :)
[11:14] <Zdra> great it's on the list :D
[11:23] <phanatic> Zdra: what does this package do?
[11:24] <Zdra> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2301 --> it install unrealtournament
[11:24] <Zdra> download and copy data from CDROM
[11:24] <phanatic> i see...
[11:24] <phanatic> thx :)
[11:24] <Zdra> that's just scripts mainly copied from flashplugin-nonfree
[11:25] <phanatic> so, then it'll go to multiverse if accepted
[11:25] <Zdra> If this package can be accepted I'll make package for ut2003, ut2004 and doom3
[11:26] <Zdra> and also make package for demo of all those games
[11:27] <Zdra> phanatic: I know it's for multiverse... should I upload it else where ? Or is universe/multiverse managed by the same team ?
[11:29] <phanatic> Zdra: the same team, so it's in the right place
[11:29] <phanatic> but the reviewers are busy with bughunting for dapper, so please be patient
[11:30] <Zdra> phanatic: of course !
[11:30] <Zdra> I can wait for edgy :)
[11:31] <sivang> slomo: please wait with the upload , I have yet one more thing to fix in the ode
[11:31] <sivang> slomo: code
[11:31] <Zdra> and this is my first package so I'm sure there will be thinks to change... but I can learn :)
[11:32] <slomo> sivang: sure, i didn't have any time to look at it yet anyway... i fear that i can't do it anymore today but have to do it tomorrow :(
[11:37] <Zdra> how can I login revu.tauware.de ?
[11:37] <Zdra> I enter my email of the changelog, as said
[11:37] <Zdra> I presse recover
[11:38] <Zdra> but then I receive no mail
[11:38] <Zdra> all I have is this message:
[11:38] <Zdra> To decrypt your password, type the following into your shell:
[11:38] <Zdra> > gpg -d <<EOT ; echo
[11:38] <Zdra> Now paste the text below, and enter EOT<return>
[11:38] <Zdra> but no encrypted password...
[11:44] <zul> have you ever uploaded before?
[11:45] <Zdra> zul: I just uploaded unrealtournament package
[11:45] <Zdra> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2301
[11:45] <Zdra> never before... as far as I know
[11:46] <zul> not sure...i dont revu either :)
[11:49] <Zdra> phanatic: any idea ?
[11:50] <phanatic> don't know, you should get it i think...
[11:50] <LaserJock> Zdra: did you use the same email that you used in the changelog of you packages?
[11:50] <Zdra> yes
[11:50] <Zdra> xclaesse@gmail.com
[11:51] <LaserJock> and did you get an email back from an admin saying your key was added?
[11:51] <sivang> slomo: I see
[11:51] <sivang> slomo: never mind, I'll continue working on it then
[11:51] <Zdra> LaserJock: I got no mail
[11:51] <sivang> slomo: ping m tomorrow okay? :)
[11:51] <slomo> sivang: sure :)
[11:52] <LaserJock> Zdra: did you send an email asking to be added?
[11:52] <Zdra> I think I did that long before but I didn't uploaded since now
[11:55] <LaserJock> Zdra: I'd email the revu admins if you can't find one here that is awake
[12:01] <sivang> does anybody recall the name of the gnome program that allows you to have another GNOME session of a new user inside a window?
[12:02] <sivang> hmm, I think it's sabayon