[12:29] pretty dead IRC today [12:29] pretty dead archive, too. [12:33] Dead archive? [12:33] I can't reach CC.archive.ubuntu.com at all [12:33] ah === cassidy_ [n=cassidy@89.113-201-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:39] well, I got the beta text installer .iso downloaded [12:40] g'luck [12:40] well, at least the partitioner works better on the text installer [12:41] even if I can't figure out the LVM, I can still do it the old fashioned way ;-) === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL01-0149.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sophie^ [n=sophie@host-203-172-27-253.dhcp.infocom.ph] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-96-69.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === joelbryan [n=joelbrya@210.213.161.246] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:32] hello, how do I upload a package in universe? === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:37] joelbryan: Well first you need to become an MOTU if you are not one :-) [02:37] I'm not yet one [02:37] Then you cannot upload, sorry [02:39] Is it a new package or a fix? === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-96-69.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] bddebian: it's http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuLiveChatSupport [03:07] Ah cool [03:10] I've uploaded it in revu using anonymous, but I just recently recieve an email that I should use my email as a login. should I re upload again? [03:12] joelbryan: Probably wouldn't hurt [03:12] Why does apsfilter suggest dvips? dvips hasn't been in Debian for a while afaict === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:28] bddebian: dvips has been sucked into tetex-bin [03:28] Aye [03:28] Thx StevenK [03:29] So apsfilter should Suggest tetex-bin, unless there is something stronger on it already. [03:37] Anyone know where .mime files are supposed to go that get processed by updatemimedb or whatever it's called? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.211.143] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arr0gance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-84-245.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arr0gance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-84-245.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:22] Hey is REVU working? [06:23] afaict, yes. Why? [06:23] crimsun: The site is not loading for me.. It is waiting for data from revu [06:24] loads fine here. [06:25] crimsun: Can you find my newly uploaded package xcircuit there? [06:26] no. [06:28] something is wrong! [06:28] I did a dput *.changes> and the upload went smothly [06:28] crimsun: Is it the right method [06:28] crimsun: I am a new packager [06:30] is your key in the revu keyring? [06:30] REVU's down here too crimsun [06:30] no, wait, it's come back, hitting refresh === tuxmaniac wonders whether it was due to his upload :P [06:31] crimsun: yeah [06:31] tuxmaniac: you'll have to ask a revu admin to look, then [06:31] hi tuxmaniac [06:31] Hi LaserJock === Hobbsee Ni's at LaserJock [06:32] as in shrubbery "ni"? [06:32] crimsun: of course. [06:32] I can never tell. === LaserJock sends an IT Hobbsee's way === Hobbsee demands a shrubbery, crying NI!!!!! [06:32] NI [06:32] ni @ bddebian! [06:32] beware, I have sharp pointy teeth [06:33] haha === bddebian whips out the Holy Hand grenade of Antioch === Hobbsee has, in her posession, a large killer rabbit === Hobbsee sets the killer rabbit to go and attack crimsun [06:33] someone has been playing with the beacon again [06:33] RUN AWAY!! [06:34] hey no, we're not going into the beacon section! [06:34] yes, RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY! === tuxmaniac is away: Off to a function!! === caravena [n=caravena@166-171-28.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === answerguy [n=guest@mercury.starshine.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:17] I have an off-topic question: I've just created a very simple PAM module ... and I've packaged it up as a tarball and in RPM form. (The tarball contains a working .spec file .. which I've tested) [07:17] Once ... many eons ago ... I "debiatized" some package ... just to teach myself how. [07:17] The question: where would be the best place for me to ask for a little coaching on how to package this PAM module for Debian/Ubuntu as well? [07:18] answerguy: here, and see http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html [07:18] Actually the question *here* is ... a little more specific: do I have to have a .diff? [07:18] yes, because your module is not native. [07:18] If my original source tree has a ./debian directory can I just package with that way? [07:19] yes, but it still needs a diff. === answerguy reads the Ubuntu Packaging Guide [07:20] afternoon [07:20] 'afternoon, ajmitch [07:21] hi ajmitch! [07:21] how's it going? [07:23] not bad, you? [07:23] alright, just been visiting parents [07:23] ah, they're doing well? [07:23] yep [07:24] excellent [07:24] was just celebrating dad's 50th birthday [07:24] cool :) [07:25] yeah, it was good to see the family again [07:27] hmm, quick question. should I run into any problems using XFS for / ? [07:27] you may do [07:28] I've only heard of rumours of grub issues lately [07:28] well, I finally got dapper beta installed and I went all crazy with the FS stuff [07:28] I did LVM with XFS [07:29] now I am thinking to myself if I maybe shouldn't have done XFS [07:29] you're seeing a few issues? [07:29] no, nothing yet [07:29] I just wondered if you more "experienced" guys would know [07:30] I guess I can switch it latter if I want, I made a large backup non-LVM ext3 partition [07:30] I ran XFS on / for years === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:31] with no problems? what do you use currently? [07:31] at first I had /boot as ext2 (then ext3), but it was no big deal [07:31] eventually I wiped out the separate /boot [07:32] I have /boot as a seperate partition right now since I like to store other kernels there [07:32] I run JFS on lvm (Breezy) on one older machine, and this X41-2527 uses ext3 for / [07:32] I've been wonderig the same thing actually; what if upstream keeps track of all debian/ changes (and no diff is *needed*); do you stillhave to ship an empty .diff.gz? === answerguy looks at Chipzz [07:33] Chipzz: my experience is that it is nice to still seperate them in case a bug fix needs to be quickly done [07:33] Chipzz: is the package native? [07:33] Chipzz: it is much easier if you don't have to upload the entire source tarball each time [07:34] crimsun: What does "native" mean in this context? [07:35] crimsun: lets presume for a moment that the upstream maintainer is the debian packager and he keeps changes in upstream cvs/svn/whatever [07:36] Meanwhile let's presume that the package maintainer is the author but that the package not in any archive ... it's just out on some website [07:36] and in such case, the upstream maintainer would commit any changes needed in debian/ upstream the moment they're needed [07:37] or, upstream != native, but debian maintainer is authorized to make commits in upstream cvs/svn/whatever [07:37] Chipzz: a diff is extremely useful. That's precisely the situation with vlc. [07:37] and debian/ubuntu maintainer decides to keep changes in upstream [07:37] Sam is both upstream developer and its Debian maintainer [07:38] is there a reason to keep a diff.gz in such case? [07:38] yes, for Debian-specific things [07:39] for example, debian maintainer wants to any user to be able to build a package from upstream cvs/svn/etc at whatever time possible, and keeps upstream up-to-date [07:40] crimsun: let me put it another way: is possible, would there be a reason *not* to keep the debian/ dir in sync upstream all the time? [07:40] s/is/if/ [07:42] Chipzz: that's a maintainer preference, really. Ideally, no, but if the package was not written specifically for Debian/Ubuntu, then it's non-native and must have a diff. [07:45] crimsun: so the debian/ubuntu archive would still contain a diff, which, if expanded, would be 0 bytes? [07:46] I've never seen that case, but if so, it could happen [07:49] I'm just assuming someone with an upstream version ocntrol account, with a big interest in debian/ubuntu, would, with the approval of upstream, instantly commit any changes in the debian dir [07:51] actually, I have been in the case of having a gnome cvs account in the past, and was interested i commiting changes in upstream cvs, but never dared/bothered to ask the debian maintainers [07:51] it would be more sensible imo to maintain debian/ on alioth, perhaps [07:52] but lets say for a moment upstream either didn't care/did agree? [07:52] what about commiting changes on alioth in upstream? [07:53] (yes, I know, this is very theoretical, but I'm just wondering) [07:55] As a practical matter I've installed the dh_make, pbuilder, lintian and linda pages, etc and done an apt-get source hello [07:55] Chipzz: personally maintaining debian/ outside of the upstream source makes things easier [07:56] ... and I've created a copy of my (upstream) source tree and copied in the hello.../debian/* files thereunder. So now I've edited the changelog, control and other files, and removed the postinst and prerm scripts (which are unnecessary for this package) [07:56] (I'm asking because in practice, if there *is* a debian dir upstream at all, most upstream maintainers don't care to keep it up-to-date; so you would have an out-of-date upstream debian dir whch wouldn't work most of the time anyway) [07:56] Now I'm looking at the debian/rules file. What a mess. [07:56] take for instance quod libet, where Joe is both upstream co-developer and Debian maintainer. debian/ is maintained in upstream svn but in a completely separate section from the QL/EF source. [07:58] answerguy: some people would argue that cdbs is far preferable. [07:58] Well, I'm not here to argue. I don't even know what a cdbs is [07:58] it's also covered in the Packaging Guide [07:59] (well, an introduction to it at least) [07:59] So I see [08:00] So I have a question for you crimsun ... would you be willing to look at the sources to my package and give some suggestions? [08:00] crimsun: anyway, my apologies for bothering you, I should have asked on a mailinglist in the first place I guess ;)) [08:00] np, you're not bothering [08:00] It's pretty trivial; one .c file which compile into a .so PAM module. [08:01] http://www.starshine.org/jimd/pam_primesudo/ [08:01] answerguy: I'm busy atm, perhaps later today? [08:01] NP [08:01] (someone else can, too) [08:01] I'll still take a crack at doing it myself, but I'm a bit tired now. [08:01] crimsun: nn :) [08:02] the coding for this was trivial (just took Solar Designers pam_mktemp package, ripped about half of it, added less than a dozen lines of my own and it works) [08:02] But documenting and packaging is all the real work. === answerguy goes to take a break === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:03] to all who ask, no, i was not nick changing at random, i was testing someone [09:04] s/someone/something [09:10] stop changing nicks randomly@! [09:10] ;p [09:11] crimsun: sorry! [09:11] konv has dodgy scripting! [09:11] it's better than opping random people by accident! === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:20] morning all [09:20] 'morning, sivang [09:22] hi sivang [09:27] hey crimsun , Hobbsee , how's it going ? [09:27] cold!!!! [09:28] :P [09:28] Hobbsee: cold? where are you based at? [09:29] sivang: sydney. [09:30] sivang: not too bad, finding a bedtime story === doko__ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-096-020.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mongoose [n=mongoose@ip68-106-216-206.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:04] hi all === webwolf_27 [n=jeremy@DSL01.83.171.153.124.NEFkom.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dewd [n=dewd@201.29.127.220] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:21] does ubuntu livecd use same gdm.conf as the installed system ? === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh [n=shermann@ubuntu/member/backslash-sh] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi_x41 [n=herzi@pD9E2B2EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-10-238-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:34] \sh: documented the cdimage stuff yet? ;) [10:34] hi all [10:34] <\sh> ajmitch:no didn't have the time last week...was all the week down in karlsruhe to get the new job running [10:34] \sh: ok, I'll accept that :) === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-131-132.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:35] when do you start working? [10:36] <\sh> ajmitch: oh well..that was a bit strange...I came to karlsruhe around noon, then I had a 30min interview, around 3pm I signed an NDA, and at 6pm I was sitting in a meeting to discuss what I will do to setup FAI :) [10:36] hehe nice :) [10:36] very quick [10:37] <\sh> yeah...this guy is a debian freak :) [10:37] always a good sign [10:39] <\sh> so I hope when I write my invoice next week, I get the money asap...and I can transfer some money back to the donators :) [10:39] :) === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ozamosi- [n=nozamosi@h145n12c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:20] ajmitch: I see you finally overtook me. [11:26] Yagisan: yes, I did === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@ip-124-244.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac is away: Off to FSUG-Bangalore Meet! Be right Back! === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh__ [n=shermann@xdsl-81-173-252-99.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryu [n=chris@dslb-084-061-008-146.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:51] hi people [01:52] G'day phanatic [01:52] hello Yagisan === poningru_ [n=poningru@n128-227-50-237.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === |ZuZuu| [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-45-242.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi_x41 [n=herzi@pD9E2B2EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:39] Heya gang === Hobbsee waves to bddebian [03:40] Hi Hobbsee [03:49] hello bddebian, Hobbsee :) === Hobbsee waves to ajmitch === highvoltage wonders what Hobbsee is so excited about... perhaps bug1 got solved or something. [03:54] me? excited? not in particular, why? === Natja [n=lionel@102-44.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul__ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === paniq [n=braniq@port-212-202-51-233.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:30] hi all [04:30] hi zakame [04:31] heya Hobbsee! [04:31] zzzzakame! === Hobbsee considers falling asleep on the keyboard [04:31] hey zakame [04:31] Oh, Hi over here too zakame :-) [04:31] hi phanatic [04:31] heya bddebian ! :D === zakame has finally gotten around to merge the CVS patch annotations [04:39] hello, how to be a MOTU member? === cassidy [n=cassidy@225-130.240.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:43] joelbryan: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes [04:43] upload packages to revu [04:43] thanks === jinty [n=jinty@173.Red-83-56-136.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:43] just got a new package, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCommercialSupport [04:43] be arund for a couple of months, and you'll become a motu ;) [04:43] s/arund/around [04:43] kewl! === ryu [n=chris@p5487E679.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL01-0381.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:54] cool new app === Mongoose is away: /_\ zzZzZZZZzz === \sh [n=shermann@ubuntu/member/backslash-sh] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac is back (gone 05:37:19) [05:27] hello \sh [05:27] <\sh> hey zakame === infinito [n=infinito@VPNPOOL01-0474.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rajasun [n=maximusp@bb220-255-206-65.singnet.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryu [n=chris@p5487FE78.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xophEr [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dz0nni [n=dzonni@217-159-219-166-dsl.est.estpak.ee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TMM [n=hp@cp611456-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:39] LaserJock_away: warn me when you're back [07:00] Any Revu Admin here!!? [07:00] not sure... [07:00] I want to know how much time will it take for a uploaded package to get reflected on the site [07:00] 5 minutes [07:00] I uploaded reflecteda package around 12 hrs back! And still not yet [07:01] I uploaded a package around 12 hrs back! And still not yet [07:02] what's it called? [07:02] XCircuit [07:03] I used dput <*.changes> command [07:03] jpatrick: It uploaded four files after verifying my sig!! But still it has not got reflected [07:03] tuxmaniac: what's your default dput server? [07:04] you may of have uploaded to ubuntu [07:04] try "dput revu *.changes" [07:04] Oh ok. === xophEr [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:07] jpatrick: Yeah I see the mistake! === nomed [n=nomed@host19-60.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:08] dput.cf not configured properly [07:08] ok, there you go [07:09] jpatrick: I need help configuring it! the default_host_main is pointing to ubuntu [07:09] jpatrick: If I am right it should point to rev? [07:09] yep [07:09] "revu" [07:10] jpatrick: Also the fqdn should be chaned to upload.revu.com? [07:11] no [07:11] defaults are fine [07:12] just try dput revu *.changes [07:13] jpatrick: Error is No host revu found in config [07:13] ... [07:14] If I change fqdm setting to upload.revu.com [07:14] it checks my signature and says good.. And then pops the following error [07:14] tuxmaniac: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/677155 [07:14] Connection refused. [07:15] put that into your /etc/dput.cf ^ [07:17] http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/677164 [07:17] After doing the changes the above error pops up.. So the server has got my upload? [07:18] ... [07:18] i don't see it in incoming/ [07:19] Then how is this error [07:21] tuxmaniac: beyond me, sorry [07:22] jpatrick: Ok. No probs [07:22] bddebian on ubuntu-bugs is tryi to sort it also :) === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.145.89] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:36] hi people [07:40] hi paniq [07:40] hi phanatic [07:41] hello tuxmaniac === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.127.102.241] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mongoose is back (gone 02:27:42) [07:44] Hello phanatic [07:44] hey bddebian === ryu [n=chris@p5487FE78.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === awb4422 [n=awb4422@12-210-86-35.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:03] re all [08:04] morning all [08:05] wb sivang [08:05] Hello awb4422 === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-170-163.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:07] hey bddebian , still breaking stuff? :) [08:08] slomo: gonna clean the rules file now, do that build-indep change, then will you be up for some review? [08:08] slomo: (re: HomeUserBackup) [08:08] sivang: sure... just give me the url [08:08] sivang: Of course :-) [08:08] I'm sure you guys get this question all the time..well at I least I hope you do.. [08:08] bddebian: hehe, you always make me laugh with how you describe what you do ;) [08:09] slomo: k, in about 30 minutes from now [08:09] but I really want to help - and I'm hoping to just hang out in here while I learn some stuff if that's cool [08:09] slomo: then, how do I upload subsequent versions? [08:09] eventually I'd like to become a MOTU-Hopeful [08:09] sivang: i don't understand your question ;) upload to where? [08:10] slomo: after the inital upload, can we have an arrangemnet to quick upload for fixes and progress? [08:10] and maybe maintain openafs packages if possible [08:10] sivang: sure... just ping me whenever you want something uploaded :) [08:11] slomo: not something, but this specific thing :) HUB [08:12] sivang: sure :) well, something was a bit broad anyway (think of the kernel etc ;) ) === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.127.102.241] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:14] slomo: indeed, which I won't touch even after I have been granted main upload rights. [08:14] sivang: stop pinging me [08:16] hub: a package will be named after you soon ;) [08:18] hub: sorry :-( [08:18] hub: it's just that HomeUserBackup shortcut is your nick :) [08:18] slomo: heh === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.126.155.205] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:19] slomo: should I touch the arch-build target ? [08:20] haha [08:21] sivang: do it how you think it would make sense :) [08:21] slomo: okay, I leave it untouched as I see it removes the .bzr meta data. I assume this makes the buildds happy. [08:25] right time to catch up with bddebian [08:27] Never happen.. Mwuhahaha === nictuku [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:28] im a quarter a way there ;) [08:29] I'm kidding, I hope you surpass me :-) [08:31] i know...im very competetive though [08:34] zul__ , bddebian : talking about who fixed more bugs? [08:34] yep.. [08:35] slomo: although I read some bits about make files in the GNU manual, could you give a short concise explenation for the .PHONEY target and it's dependants ? [08:36] sivang: afaik the .PHONY lists all rules that are meant to be real rules and not files === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457afde7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:37] slomo: ah, makes sense with I found in this makefile [08:37] slomo: thanks [08:40] ooh...crocodile dundee is on === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:43] slomo: re s/unstable/dapper, should I do this only in the changlog or is there another place where this is taken from? [08:43] only changelog [08:44] k === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:27] LaserJock_away: here: http://www.kubuntu-es.org/jpatrick/parches/ubuntupackguide-20060423.diff === highvoltage [n=Jono@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === TTT_Travis [n=Travis@bal-bb-cable-1-39.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:52] hi guys, I develop Ubuntu Center ( http://ubuntucenter.info ) I did a pre-Alpha release last month I did make a deb to install it but for my postinst script I just used a simple shell script that asked some question and I am working on making better packaging structure. I am wondering how to make it ask questions using those blue ncurses popup windows [09:52] is there a guide somewhere on howto make them? [09:55] TTT_Travis: debian packaging policy, use debconf stuff instead of hand-made questions [09:56] I'm not fluent in that so I cannot tell you the details but the policy manual it thick enough to help [09:56] k [09:56] debconf [09:56] gotcha [09:57] TTT_Travis: note that asking questions during install is a pain in the ass [09:57] don't do it unless there is really no other way around === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:00] k [10:00] I get what you're saying [10:01] I think I have an idea on howto make it all web based [10:02] package installation? [10:03] no [10:03] right now during installation it asks like what password you want to use to access ubuntu center and stuff === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:03] but I think I can make the web based [10:04] TTT_Travis: you can make ~/.some-file or even /etc/some-file, that's easier [10:05] yeah but its no config based [10:06] and since this is a web based tool a web based setup is appropriate [10:06] but the password can be, right/ [10:06] so I think thats what I will do [10:06] what? [10:07] if all you need to ask is the password then you can either ask at runtime/first-run or put it in some per-user config file [10:07] yeah [10:07] first run time [10:07] so it would be the first time someone goes to ubuntu center in there web browser === marcin` [n=marcin@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:19] slomo: okay, I think I'm ready. one last thing - [10:19] slomo: dhlobach noted I should alos upload and .orig [10:19] slomo: yu didn't mention anything about that, what do you think ? [10:19] either make a native package or don't make one === ozamosi__ [n=ozamosi@h196n6c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:19] and i thought you want to make a native package :) [10:21] slomo: hmm right, however , HUBackup could be used on any debian/ubuntu derivatives, and maybe from source if the distro supports /etc/adduser.conf [10:22] what do you think? [10:23] make it non-native and make separate release without debian packaging if it could work on other distros too [10:23] make it native if it's debian specific [10:24] okay, so currently it's debian specific [10:24] so it's gonna be native :) === sivang uploads a source to temp location === theCore [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4206357.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB_ [i=ghoseb@ubuntu-in.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:26] slomo: http://muse.19inch.net/~sivan/upbackup [10:26] slomo: let me know about it now === sivang crosses fingers [10:27] sivang: i'll take a look in ~1 hour [10:27] slomo: okay, thanks [10:27] slomo: I may go to sleep by then , let's hope I won't have any show-stoppers :) === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zdra [n=zdra@213.182-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@host213-171.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:37] hi guys, anyone able to answer my questions about REVU? === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:42] cbx33: i hope i can help you... [10:42] phanatic, ahhh kewl [10:42] I'm not a MOTU [10:43] but I fixed a bug in a package [10:43] uploaded a debdiff to launchpad [10:43] two questions [10:43] 1) What do I change the status of the bug to [10:43] 2) Someone said I could upload the patched source to REVU [10:43] if the answer to 2 is yes....what exactly do i need to submit and how :p [10:44] slomo: crap, I forgot one debug option I need to remove, re-uploading [10:44] cbx33: for 2) i don't think you need to upload it to revu [10:45] someone said it would happen quicker if I did? === mgalvin_ [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-40-144.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:46] but i would submit it for a UVF one of the wiki's said? [10:46] i don't really think so [10:46] for a bugfix you don't need an uvfe afaik [10:46] no no [10:46] but I have filed a UVF [10:47] on an unrelated issue [10:47] you should assign the bug to the motu-reviewers [10:47] and they'll take care of it [10:47] ok === |ZuZuu| [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-63-94.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.154.175] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:11] hi ! I just uploaded a package to universe using the howto there: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU?action=show&redirect=REVU [11:11] but I don't understand how and where I can see my package [11:12] where are comments from MOTU members if they say something on my package ? === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:13] Zdra, on http://revu.tauware.de [11:13] http://revu.tauware.de [11:13] and your package is not in universe yet [11:13] just up for reviewing [11:13] hey Gloubiboulga :) [11:13] hi phanatic :) [11:13] phanatic: yes of course, that's my first package, so I'm waiting for comments ;-) [11:14] thx [11:14] Zdra: okay :) [11:14] great it's on the list :D === farruinn [n=nathan@dialup-4.156.99.72.Dial1.Boston1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:23] Zdra: what does this package do? [11:24] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2301 --> it install unrealtournament [11:24] download and copy data from CDROM [11:24] i see... [11:24] thx :) [11:24] that's just scripts mainly copied from flashplugin-nonfree [11:25] so, then it'll go to multiverse if accepted [11:25] If this package can be accepted I'll make package for ut2003, ut2004 and doom3 [11:26] and also make package for demo of all those games [11:27] phanatic: I know it's for multiverse... should I upload it else where ? Or is universe/multiverse managed by the same team ? === ajmitch__ [n=ajmitch@203.89.166.123] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:29] Zdra: the same team, so it's in the right place [11:29] but the reviewers are busy with bughunting for dapper, so please be patient [11:30] phanatic: of course ! [11:30] I can wait for edgy :) [11:31] slomo: please wait with the upload , I have yet one more thing to fix in the ode [11:31] slomo: code [11:31] and this is my first package so I'm sure there will be thinks to change... but I can learn :) === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-96-165.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@ip-124-244.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [11:32] sivang: sure, i didn't have any time to look at it yet anyway... i fear that i can't do it anymore today but have to do it tomorrow :( === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.144.117] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:37] how can I login revu.tauware.de ? [11:37] I enter my email of the changelog, as said [11:37] I presse recover [11:38] but then I receive no mail [11:38] all I have is this message: [11:38] To decrypt your password, type the following into your shell: [11:38] > gpg -d < Now paste the text below, and enter EOT [11:38] but no encrypted password... === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:44] have you ever uploaded before? [11:45] zul: I just uploaded unrealtournament package [11:45] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2301 [11:45] never before... as far as I know [11:46] not sure...i dont revu either :) [11:49] phanatic: any idea ? [11:50] don't know, you should get it i think... [11:50] Zdra: did you use the same email that you used in the changelog of you packages? [11:50] yes [11:50] xclaesse@gmail.com [11:51] and did you get an email back from an admin saying your key was added? [11:51]