| Zdra | gdmflexiserver --xnest | 12:03 |
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| sivang | Zdra: nice :) what is gdmflexiserver ? | 12:06 |
| sivang | Zdra: so sabayon only adds profiles to those :) | 12:07 |
| Zdra | sivang: I don't know ubuntu had a icon in the application menu with that before dapper, now it's hidden by default :) | 12:07 |
| sivang | way cool | 12:07 |
| Zdra | all I know is that it worked on breezy :) | 12:07 |
| sivang | I wish I know what this is | 12:07 |
| sivang | knew | 12:07 |
| sivang | slomo: maybe you have an idea about gdmflexiserver ? | 12:08 |
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| ajmitch | afternoon Hobbsee | 03:32 |
| ajmitch | well, morning for you | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | morning ajmitch | 03:33 |
| bddebian | Heya Hobbsee, ajmitch | 03:33 |
| === Hobbsee didnt think it was *that* late! | ||
| ajmitch | hello bddebian | 03:33 |
| Hobbsee | hi bddebian | 03:33 |
| === ajmitch ended up waking up at 7:30AM, of course :P | ||
| Hobbsee | heh | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | crazy ajmitch! | 03:34 |
| ajmitch | yes, crazy for staying up that late | 03:35 |
| ajmitch | someone is a bad influence on me, I'm sure | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | !@#$#$%^^ | 03:35 |
| ajmitch | ? | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | found a new way for the dcc exploit | 03:35 |
| ajmitch | ah | 03:36 |
| ajmitch | something else to deal with in channels | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 03:36 |
| ajmitch | sigh, I have to go off to uni in a few minutes | 03:37 |
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| Hobbsee | heh, enjoy | 03:43 |
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| ajmitch | yay, 3 students in the lab | 04:00 |
| ajmitch | it's going to be an exciting afternoon | 04:00 |
| bddebian | heh | 04:00 |
| ajmitch | ok, it's grown to 4 students, I might be really busy then :) | 04:02 |
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| === Kyral mutters to himself | ||
| === Hobbsee pokes Kyral | ||
| Kyral | hey | 04:31 |
| bddebian | Heya Kyral | 04:32 |
| Kyral | hey.... | 04:32 |
| === Kyral is thinknig about stopping going for MOTU | ||
| bddebian | Ack, why? | 04:34 |
| Kyral | I dunno...I'm becoming more involved with ArchLinux... | 04:36 |
| bddebian | Gah | 04:36 |
| TheMuso | Kyral: I guess you are finding it better for your needs? | 04:37 |
| Kyral | TheMuso, yah | 04:37 |
| Kyral | its quicker on the draw so to speak and its easier to tweak every aspect | 04:38 |
| TheMuso | quicker on the draw? | 04:38 |
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| Kyral | Yah....as in performs faster | 04:39 |
| Mongoose | O RLY? | 04:39 |
| Mongoose | Kyral: =) | 04:39 |
| Kyral | yah | 04:40 |
| Kyral | and the AUR is nice | 04:40 |
| TheMuso | Do you really think i686 optimizations are helping with that? | 04:40 |
| TheMuso | AUR? | 04:40 |
| bddebian | Kyral: What packaging system does it use? | 04:40 |
| TheMuso | bddebian: Its own AFAIK. | 04:41 |
| TheMuso | Their packages aren't broken down so much however. | 04:41 |
| TheMuso | So you want ncurses, you get the libs and the headers in the one package. | 04:41 |
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| bddebian | TheMuso: Ah | 04:41 |
| Kyral | TheMuso, moreso that it doesn't assume you want any daemons running | 04:42 |
| Kyral | ie, drops you to a command line and lets you build from scratch | 04:42 |
| TheMuso | Right. | 04:42 |
| Kyral | so I don't have RAID running when I don't need | 04:42 |
| TheMuso | It is targeting a different audience I guess. | 04:42 |
| Kyral | same with modules | 04:42 |
| bddebian | Sounds like Slackware or Gentoo :-) | 04:42 |
| Kyral | do a lsmod | wc -l right now and tell me how many modules you have loaded | 04:42 |
| Kyral | I have 66 loaded | 04:43 |
| TheMuso | I was a Slackware user, but got sick of tweaking and settings things up | 04:43 |
| TheMuso | And the package management... | 04:43 |
| TheMuso | I played with arc a bit, but wasn't fond of it./ | 04:43 |
| bddebian | Kyral: 63 | 04:43 |
| Kyral | bddebian, on Ubuntu? | 04:43 |
| bddebian | Kyral: Yep | 04:44 |
| Kyral | hmm nm then lol | 04:44 |
| Kyral | then again I have my full complement loaded | 04:44 |
| bddebian | Kyral: Of course that's my server install ;-P | 04:44 |
| === Kyral falls down | ||
| Kyral | No GUI? | 04:44 |
| bddebian | Nope :-) | 04:44 |
| Kyral | Cheater.... | 04:45 |
| TheMuso | Kyral: So I guess the question is, why are you still here? | 04:45 |
| Kyral | TheMuso, because I still maintain packages... | 04:45 |
| Kyral | I won't abandon them | 04:45 |
| TheMuso | Right. | 04:45 |
| Kyral | Oh bddebian I have you beat | 04:45 |
| Kyral | horribly beat | 04:45 |
| TheMuso | If thats the case, you should go for MOTU, as the middle man will be removed if you have upload rights. | 04:46 |
| Kyral | my XenBreezy server, only 12 modules loaded :P | 04:46 |
| TheMuso | So to speak. | 04:46 |
| TheMuso | But how much of that is in the kernel? :) | 04:46 |
| Kyral | good point...I had to custom compile the kernel.... | 04:46 |
| bddebian | Kyral: :-) | 04:46 |
| Kyral | it IS Xen | 04:46 |
| Kyral | 5.1 MB kernel | 04:47 |
| Kyral | I should slash it down when I go to Xen 3 | 04:47 |
| Kyral | I don't need like ANYTHING in there | 04:47 |
| Kyral | I could prolly drop it to 2 MB | 04:47 |
| Kyral | basically I'm a performance junkie right now | 04:50 |
| Kyral | my laptop is 3 years old, so I need every advantage I can get | 04:50 |
| Kyral | this Desktop is almost a year and a half and lives on an Athlon XP, which isn't made anymore (sadly) | 04:51 |
| Kyral | and personally I find it fun to take these things to the limit :D | 05:03 |
| Kyral | To see how far I can push my hardware | 05:03 |
| Kyral | to see if I can do it | 05:03 |
| Kyral | this is why I'm gonna (at least try) to make my own distro at some point | 05:03 |
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| TheMuso | Good luck. :) | 05:09 |
| TheMuso | LFS is probably the place to start. | 05:09 |
| Kyral | How'd you guess I was gonna start there :P | 05:11 |
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| TheMuso | Thats where most would start probably. | 05:18 |
| === Hobbsee shudders at the idea of masses of compiling | ||
| Kyral | hehe | 05:20 |
| Kyral | It would be fun to see if I could do it | 05:20 |
| Kyral | to write my own package management system | 05:20 |
| Kyral | I may be getting ahead of my self, but I think I know what I would call it | 05:21 |
| Kyral | Infinity Linux (I was doodling in class the other day and I randomly drew the Infinity symbol and thought "Hey! That would be a cool name for a distro") | 05:25 |
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| TheMuso | hehe | 05:31 |
| bddebian | Heya tritium | 05:32 |
| tritium | hello bddebian :) | 05:32 |
| Se7h | Fetched 150MB in 5m50s (427kB/s) | 05:32 |
| Se7h | \o/ updates | 05:32 |
| Se7h | lol | 05:32 |
| Se7h | hello :) | 05:32 |
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| bddebian | Heya zakame | 05:36 |
| zakame | hello bddebian | 05:36 |
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| jmg | anyone run ubuntu on a macbok pro? | 06:13 |
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| dholbach | good morning motu world :) | 07:58 |
| Hobbsee | afternoon dholbach | 07:59 |
| ajmitch | it's evening, not afternoon | 07:59 |
| ajmitch | the sun has set! | 07:59 |
| dholbach | hey Hobbsee :) | 07:59 |
| dholbach | Hobbsee: how are you? | 07:59 |
| Hobbsee | i'm okay, thinking about lunch and work | 07:59 |
| === dholbach thinks about coffee and work ;) | ||
| dholbach | i finally got that vi mug during the weekend | 08:01 |
| dholbach | maybe it'll work better for me today :-p | 08:01 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: isn't it a little late for lunch? :) | 08:02 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: its' 4pm... | 08:02 |
| Hobbsee | and if i dont have some form of lunch before work, i'll pass out... | 08:02 |
| dholbach | Hobbsee: don't worry - seb128 asks me the same questions all the time :) | 08:02 |
| ajmitch | yes | 08:02 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 08:02 |
| ajmitch | so it's dinner, not lunch | 08:02 |
| ajmitch | we really don't think passing out is a good idea | 08:03 |
| Hobbsee | no, dinner will be when i get home again! | 08:04 |
| ajmitch | heh | 08:05 |
| ajmitch | and breakfast was at noon? | 08:05 |
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| === Hobbsee now has lunch. | ||
| Hobbsee | er...did breakfast occur today? | 08:14 |
| ajmitch | welcome back, good to see you're still with us | 08:14 |
| Hobbsee | oh yeah, it was yesterday that it didnt occur. yes, lunch occured today...11am or something... | 08:15 |
| Hobbsee | of course i'm still here. i'd only pass out in a few hours, at work | 08:21 |
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| sivang | slomo_: ping, morning | 10:31 |
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| adu | ahh | 11:18 |
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| zakame | hi all | 02:18 |
| ajmitch | hi zakame | 02:20 |
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| ajmitch | evening Hobbsee | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | hi ajmitch | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | thought you might still be awake | 02:24 |
| ajmitch | me? nah.. | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | yes. you. | 02:26 |
| ajmitch | why would I be awake at this hour? | 02:26 |
| Hobbsee | because you never sleep? | 02:27 |
| zakame | hello ajmitch Hobbsee | 02:27 |
| Hobbsee | hi zakame | 02:27 |
| === StevenK jumps on Hobbsee. | ||
| === Hobbsee pokes StevenK hard in the ribs | ||
| ajmitch | hello StevenK | 02:29 |
| StevenK | Ouch! | 02:29 |
| === StevenK waves. | ||
| zakame | heya StevenK | 02:30 |
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| === Hobbsee waves to Seveas | ||
| zakame | hi Seveas | 02:30 |
| Seveas | hi | 02:31 |
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| cyberix | slomo_: GNUnet update ack. gnunet-gtk will get an update too? | 02:45 |
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| zul | heylo | 02:50 |
| zakame | heylo zul | 02:50 |
| zul | hey zakame | 02:51 |
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| phanatic | hi people | 03:52 |
| zakame | hello phanatic | 03:52 |
| Gloubiboulga | hi phanatic, zakame | 03:53 |
| phanatic | hey zakame, Gloubiboulga | 03:53 |
| === Hobbsee waves to zakame Gloubiboulga and phanatic | ||
| === phanatic waves back to Hobbsee :) | ||
| Gloubiboulga | hi Hobbsee | 03:55 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: it's easier to just wave to .* | 03:55 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 03:56 |
| zakame | heya Gloubiboulga Hobbsee | 03:57 |
| zakame | $motu->wave | 03:57 |
| === Mithrandir waves to ajmitch, tickles Hobbsee and runs away again | ||
| ajmitch | heh | 03:58 |
| zakame | lol | 03:58 |
| === Hobbsee thwaps Mithrandir and pokes him hard in the ribs | ||
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: too late, I'm out of range already. | 03:58 |
| === Hobbsee gets her big stick ready for the next time | ||
| Mithrandir | I'll have to bring a long stick with feathers on, then? | 03:59 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | you'll find it pretty hard to manipulate | 04:00 |
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| ajmitch | morning bddebian | 04:00 |
| zakame | heya bddebian | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | hi bddebian | 04:00 |
| === Hobbsee pokes bddebian with the big stick | ||
| Hobbsee | see, this is how it's done... | 04:01 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 04:01 |
| bddebian | Hi ajmitch, zakame, Hobbsee | 04:01 |
| sivang | heya bddebian jaw breaker :) | 04:01 |
| bddebian | heh | 04:01 |
| bddebian | Hi sivang | 04:01 |
| sivang | bddebian: what are you plans for breaking today? :-D | 04:02 |
| sivang | *your | 04:02 |
| Hobbsee | he's going to break apt, of course :D | 04:02 |
| sivang | hehe | 04:02 |
| bddebian | Dunno yet, got something I SHOULD break? ;-P | 04:02 |
| sivang | bddebian: hehe | 04:02 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: yes, apt. | 04:03 |
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| bddebian | Nah, I like "fixing" a bug for a universe package, trying to upload, then finding out part of it is in main :-( | 04:05 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:05 |
| ajmitch | and having to get main UVF exceptions? :) | 04:06 |
| zakame | lol | 04:06 |
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| bddebian | ajmitch: Nah, it was a small change | 04:07 |
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| bddebian | Heya tuxmaniac | 04:12 |
| tuxmaniac | bddebian: Hi | 04:12 |
| tuxmaniac | Got your email | 04:12 |
| tuxmaniac | bddebian: I will change the changelog | 04:12 |
| bddebian | Cool. Any resolution on the REVU problem yet? | 04:12 |
| tuxmaniac | bddebian: Nope. Still it says file already present in the server! :) | 04:13 |
| zakame | changelog the changelog | 04:13 |
| bddebian | zakame: :-) | 04:13 |
| tuxmaniac | hi zakame :) | 04:13 |
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| zakame | heya tuxmaniac | 04:14 |
| zakame | wb phanatic | 04:14 |
| phanatic | hey zakame | 04:15 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Any chance you have a second to look at tuxmaniac's upload to REVU? | 04:15 |
| tuxmaniac | ajmitch: I dont know whether it got uploaded :) | 04:15 |
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| zakame | wowoctaviz takes long | 04:17 |
| zakame | gar sticky keys | 04:17 |
| ajmitch | tuxmaniac: what package? | 04:18 |
| tuxmaniac | XCircuit | 04:18 |
| ajmitch | tuxmaniac: how far did the upload get? | 04:19 |
| ajmitch | since I don't see it at all on there | 04:19 |
| tuxmaniac | ajmitch: All the 4 files got uploaded.. | 04:20 |
| ajmitch | unless someone has kindly removed it | 04:20 |
| tuxmaniac | Initially I dint configure it to revu | 04:20 |
| ajmitch | ah right | 04:20 |
| tuxmaniac | ajmitch: so might have got uploaed to ubuntu | 04:20 |
| ajmitch | that's probably why | 04:20 |
| ajmitch | you tried again with dput -f ? | 04:20 |
| tuxmaniac | ajmitch: But afterwards bddebian helpeed me.. And when i again tried | 04:21 |
| tuxmaniac | ajmitch: it throws up a File already present in the server error! | 04:21 |
| ajmitch | and in your dput config? | 04:21 |
| ajmitch | I can see that it's certainly not here | 04:21 |
| tuxmaniac | yes | 04:21 |
| tuxmaniac | I did change my dput.cf file. | 04:22 |
| ajmitch | yes, but tell me what's in your dput.cf file, please | 04:22 |
| tuxmaniac | http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/677164 | 04:23 |
| tuxmaniac | Thats the error i get | 04:23 |
| ajmitch | right, so it says that files *may* be present | 04:23 |
| bddebian | tuxmaniac: Can you pastbin your dput.cf? | 04:23 |
| ajmitch | but it's likely that your dput.cf is wrong | 04:23 |
| tuxmaniac | http://pastebin.com/678896 | 04:24 |
| tuxmaniac | ajmitch: I am new to packaging.. So bare with me pls :) | 04:24 |
| ajmitch | tuxmaniac: it's wrong, change it to what is on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU | 04:25 |
| zakame | hmm gnus just got the O | 04:25 |
| ajmitch | specifically the incoming = / line | 04:25 |
| ajmitch | should be incoming = /incoming | 04:25 |
| tuxmaniac | ajmitch: Oh ok | 04:26 |
| tuxmaniac | ajmit:)ch: zakame : bddebian : Its uploading finally | 04:27 |
| tuxmaniac | ajmitch: Danke! | 04:27 |
| ajmitch | ok, now people can get on correcting the packages :) | 04:27 |
| bddebian | tuxmaniac: Awesome! | 04:27 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Thanks | 04:28 |
| zakame | tuxmaniac: rock on! =) | 04:28 |
| tuxmaniac | thanks all.. I luv ubuntu for this only... | 04:28 |
| bddebian | :-) | 04:28 |
| tuxmaniac | bddebian: And abt the other issue of installing into X diectory | 04:29 |
| tuxmaniac | bddebian: thats how the previous package was packed :P | 04:29 |
| tuxmaniac | Guys while uploading should the dinstall run? | 04:30 |
| bddebian | No | 04:31 |
| bddebian | tuxmaniac: Well it was wrong too then :-) | 04:31 |
| bddebian | tuxmaniac: Does it run imake or xmkmf? | 04:32 |
| tuxmaniac | Yeah.. Successfully uploaded packages :) | 04:34 |
| tuxmaniac | Nope | 04:35 |
| tuxmaniac | bddebian: it did not run.. I first did a simulation and then really uploaded then | 04:35 |
| ajmitch | tuxmaniac: because you uploaded a binary package, not a source package | 04:36 |
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| Hobbsee | maybe it was somethign else that i was thinking of... | 04:37 |
| bddebian | Hobbsee: A PITA, that's what imake/xmkmf is :-) | 04:37 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:37 |
| Hobbsee | right | 04:37 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: Evil | 04:37 |
| Hobbsee | even more evil than checkinstall? | 04:37 |
| ajmitch | almost | 04:37 |
| Hobbsee | oh yeah, it was that that i was thinking of... | 04:38 |
| Hobbsee | how does one change the file to use make instead? change teh makefile or something? | 04:38 |
| tuxmaniac | ajmitch: I have uploaded .orig also.. Is that enough? | 04:39 |
| tuxmaniac | ajmitch: I mean when I gave dput.. It uploaded the changes, dsc,deb, .orig.tar | 04:39 |
| tuxmaniac | ajmitch: Is that fine or something else to be done? | 04:39 |
| Hobbsee | tuxmaniac: did it upload the .diff.gz? | 04:40 |
| tuxmaniac | Sorry I missed it out | 04:40 |
| tuxmaniac | Hobbsee: Yes it did :D | 04:41 |
| Hobbsee | oh good | 04:41 |
| ajmitch | tuxmaniac: no it's not ok, sorry\ | 04:41 |
| ajmitch | you need to build a source-only package | 04:41 |
| ajmitch | eg debuild -S -sa | 04:41 |
| tuxmaniac | Oh Thanks I do it right away | 04:42 |
| tuxmaniac | ajmitch: Done! | 04:43 |
| tuxmaniac | ajmitch: I upload it once again? | 04:43 |
| ajmitch | yes | 04:43 |
| ajmitch | make sure you upload the _source.changes file | 04:44 |
| tuxmaniac | ajmitch: Again the previous problem of file already existent on the server comes :( | 04:47 |
| ajmitch | try again, with dput -f | 04:48 |
| tuxmaniac | ajmitch: Yeah Doing it! | 04:48 |
| tuxmaniac | ajmitch: Danke :) | 04:49 |
| tuxmaniac | ajmitch: Hey Connection Refused upload I guess! | 05:00 |
| tuxmaniac | Sorry for disturbing you ajmitch | 05:00 |
| ajmitch | what do you mean? | 05:00 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: likes being kept up all night, you know :P - he doesnt sleep, anyway | 05:01 |
| ajmitch | shh | 05:01 |
| tuxmaniac | Connection refused.. My network dropped.. :( Again I try to do a dput and same file already existing rror | 05:01 |
| tuxmaniac | pops up | 05:02 |
| ajmitch | which is different from the connection being refused | 05:02 |
| ajmitch | I can clear it so you can try again | 05:02 |
| tuxmaniac | Yeah pls.. :) Sorry yaar! | 05:02 |
| ajmitch | try again please | 05:02 |
| tuxmaniac | yeah uploading | 05:03 |
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| ajmitch | night all | 05:12 |
| bddebian | Later ajmitch | 05:12 |
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| jpatrick | hi tuxmaniac | 05:57 |
| tuxmaniac | jpatrick: Hi.. The thing got solved! Wrong Dput configuraton :) | 05:57 |
| jpatrick | d'oh | 05:57 |
| tuxmaniac | jpatrick: But my network is irritating me.. | 05:57 |
| tuxmaniac | jpatrick: Murphy's law!! Still unable to upload! | 05:57 |
| bddebian | :-( | 05:57 |
| jpatrick | I usually get that | 05:58 |
| jpatrick | just that it doesn't go slooow, it just _stops_ entirely | 05:58 |
| tuxmaniac | jpatrick: Exactly the problem!! :) | 05:58 |
| tuxmaniac | jpatrick: Somebody has to clear the previous upload for me now! Hope ajmitch does not mind once again.. :) | 05:59 |
| jpatrick | tuxmaniac: I could | 06:00 |
| tuxmaniac | bddebian: U have any suggestion to automatically force! -f is _not_ working | 06:00 |
| tuxmaniac | jpatrick: Nice if you can do it :) | 06:00 |
| jpatrick | tuxmaniac: try now | 06:01 |
| tuxmaniac | yeah thanks jpatrick | 06:04 |
| jpatrick | no problem | 06:04 |
| bddebian | tuxmaniac: I didn't know you hung out in #hurd too ;-) | 06:05 |
| tuxmaniac | bddebian: A newbie there too.. Jus got impressed with its archtecture | 06:06 |
| tuxmaniac | bddebian: A fan from yesterday! | 06:06 |
| tuxmaniac | :) | 06:06 |
| bddebian | :-) | 06:06 |
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| tuxmaniac | Done! Upload successful | 06:08 |
| jpatrick | woohoo | 06:08 |
| jpatrick | tuxmaniac: running revu-report as an added extra | 06:09 |
| jpatrick | wow, lots of compile warnings | 06:11 |
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| tuxmaniac | jpatrick: Yes.. :) I tried to remove it.. Seems its an Upstream problem! | 06:11 |
| jpatrick | tuxmaniac: done; http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2302 | 06:11 |
| tuxmaniac | jpatrick: Super! Thanks | 06:12 |
| tuxmaniac | jpatrick: Seems there are lots of problems! | 06:15 |
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| Tonio_ | hello all | 06:42 |
| Gloubiboulga | hi Tonio_ | 06:42 |
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| Tonio_ | Gloubiboulga: you're trying the motu membership ? | 06:45 |
| bddebian | Heya Tonio_ | 06:46 |
| Tonio_ | hey bddebian | 06:46 |
| LaserJock | hi bddebian and Tonio_ | 06:47 |
| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 06:47 |
| Tonio_ | hey LaserJock ;) | 06:47 |
| Gloubiboulga | Tonio_, yes :) | 06:48 |
| Tonio_ | Gloubiboulga: I'll be there to support you :) | 06:48 |
| Gloubiboulga | merci Tonio_ :) | 06:49 |
| Tonio_ | de rien ;) | 06:49 |
| Tonio_ | Gloubiboulga: j'ai toujours aim l'ile aux enfants ;) | 06:49 |
| Gloubiboulga | hh | 06:49 |
| jpatrick | _ groovy | 06:50 |
| phanatic | hey Gloubiboulga, that's great :) i'm sure you make it | 06:53 |
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| Gloubiboulga | phanatic, thanks, we'll see tomorrow... | 06:53 |
| phanatic | i'll try to be there too as a silent supporter :) | 06:56 |
| Gloubiboulga | thanks :) | 06:57 |
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| slomo_ | cyberix: yes | 07:33 |
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| bddebian | Is there some way I can get 'apt-get build-dep foo' to continue even on errors? | 08:06 |
| === bddebian loves talking to himself | ||
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| ogra | ever thought about podcasting your monologues ? :P | 08:13 |
| ogra | i guess a local repo in sources.list might do | 08:13 |
| bddebian | ogra: What, of me talking to myself since no one answers me? :-) | 08:14 |
| ogra | yep :) | 08:14 |
| bddebian | This is why I'll never be a main uploader :'-( | 08:14 |
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| cyberix | slomo_: Great | 08:17 |
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| === bddebian crosses his fingers and starts a scilab build | ||
| LaserJock | heh | 08:22 |
| LaserJock | I'll cross mine too | 08:22 |
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| jpatrick | LaserJock: ping | 09:17 |
| LaserJock | jpatrick: hi | 09:17 |
| jpatrick | did you get my patch? | 09:18 |
| bddebian | scilab SUCKS! :-) | 09:18 |
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| LaserJock | jpatrick: yep | 09:19 |
| slomo_ | sivang: ping? | 09:19 |
| LaserJock | jpatrick: but I haven't applied it yet. | 09:19 |
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| sivang | slomo_: pong | 09:31 |
| slomo_ | sivang: i have some time now for your package :) | 09:32 |
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| sivang | slomo_: cool, lt me see if I can put an archive online somewhere with fixes | 09:33 |
| slomo_ | sivang: ask siretart for a revu login and upload it there ;) | 09:33 |
| sivang | slomo_: at the momnet it would be faster for me to put it on one of the servers I'm using :-) | 09:34 |
| crimsun | bddebian: url to packages in which you're getting that error on autoconf | 09:34 |
| bddebian | crimsun: It's scilab | 09:34 |
| bddebian | crimsun: But I'm using the newer .1 release from Debian | 09:35 |
| crimsun | do you plan to/have you file/d a uvfe for it? | 09:35 |
| sivang | slomo_: there some small fixes (yet) I want to do before the initial upload, until when will you be available ? | 09:35 |
| slomo_ | sivang: 2 1/2 hours from now at least | 09:36 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Do I need one for a release add for a bugfix? I thought that was only for API/ABI changes? | 09:36 |
| sivang | slomo_: okay, if I can pull the fix in an hour, I'll do that, if not then just ping you back to review and upload if appropriate | 09:36 |
| crimsun | bddebian: no, it's more like an informative clue for me, since I need to prioritise my pbuilder attempts | 09:37 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Well just give me a hint, you don't have to build it :-) | 09:37 |
| crimsun | I can't give you a hint without trying it, but I'll attempt Debian's .1 in a few minutes as soon as I leave this meeting. | 09:38 |
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| sivang | slomo_: okay, let's do it this way, I've put the fixed archive online, http://mercury.linuxguru.net/~sivan/HUB | 09:47 |
| hub | ? | 09:47 |
| sivang | slomo_: see if this is okay, if so, I'll then work on the fix I wanted to have and then ping you to do the actual upload given I do not touch the packaging anymore. | 09:47 |
| slomo_ | sivang: as it's a native package don't use a x.y.z-a version... but only x.y.z | 09:47 |
| sivang | hub: oh, sorry again. | 09:47 |
| ogra | sivang, you should consider renamming the abbreviation :) | 09:48 |
| sivang | ogra: yes :) | 09:48 |
| sivang | slomo_: apart for that, everything's okay with respect to your other comments? | 09:49 |
| slomo_ | sivang: no... i found new issues ;) shall i write them here or by mail? | 09:49 |
| sivang | slomo_: email plesae | 09:49 |
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| slomo_ | sivang: address? | 09:50 |
| sivang | slomo_: sivan@ubuntu.com | 09:50 |
| ogra | why dont you guys just use revu ? | 09:50 |
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| slomo_ | ogra: don't ask me but sivang ;) | 09:50 |
| LaserJock | ogra: I was wondering that myself | 09:50 |
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| === sivang searches for the revu instructions. | ||
| sivang | I need to send a signed email somewhere right? | 09:53 |
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| sivang | slomo_: I recall now I forgot to take off the shlibs:Depends | 09:53 |
| slomo_ | sivang: yes, but that's not the only problem ;) | 09:54 |
| ogra | sivang, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU | 09:54 |
| sivang | hmm, ajmitch already added a while ago | 09:55 |
| sivang | ogra: how di I put my package there if I'm already in the keyring? | 09:55 |
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| sivang | ogra: thanks, this page has all instructions | 09:56 |
| ogra | sivang dput | 09:56 |
| ogra | :) | 09:56 |
| sivang | weird, | 09:58 |
| sivang | I already have a revu entry in dput.cf | 09:58 |
| sivang | does it come like this when you install dput ? :) | 09:58 |
| ogra | yep iirc | 09:59 |
| sivang | nice | 10:01 |
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| crimsun | bddebian: ping | 10:02 |
| bddebian | Yo | 10:03 |
| bddebian | So, what are we doing with "fixed in Dapper" bugs? | 10:03 |
| crimsun | bddebian: are you syncing? | 10:03 |
| bddebian | crimsun: No, I'm adding a desktop file and cping X11_defaults/scilab.xpm to usr/share/pixmaps | 10:04 |
| crimsun | bug #(s)? | 10:04 |
| bddebian | Bug #3496 | 10:05 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 3496 in scilab "scilab installer bad path and fonts" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/3496 | 10:05 |
| crimsun | ok, maybe I'm missing something, but there's no attachment with a desktop file | 10:07 |
| slomo_ | sivang: review finished :) | 10:07 |
| crimsun | bddebian: does 14.1 actually address the font issue(s)? Nothing in the changelog mentions it. | 10:09 |
| crimsun | bddebian: 14.1 pbuilds fine here (ia32) | 10:10 |
| bddebian | crimsun: No, I am adding the desktop file myself. That's my specialty ;-P I know it builds fine but it's picking up /X11R6/ dirs from configure, which is why I wanted to try an autoconf, etc | 10:11 |
| bddebian | Try to run it | 10:11 |
| crimsun | ah, ok. | 10:11 |
| sivang | slomo_: yes, got your email. Funny I was sure I moved all needd to Binary-Indep :) | 10:13 |
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| sivang | :) | 10:13 |
| slomo_ | sivang: huh? i didn't say something about binary-indep, that was ok :) | 10:14 |
| sivang | slomo_: hmm, after workday tiredness then : | 10:14 |
| sivang | :) | 10:14 |
| sivang | slomo_: sorry for whining | 10:14 |
| sivang | slomo_: btw, how do you pick al those errors so quick and with detail? :) | 10:15 |
| slomo_ | sivang: np :) hmm, you get used to find such problems fast after reviewing many packages | 10:16 |
| bddebian | I can't reproduce Bug #33528 Close it as Fixed in Dapper? | 10:16 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 33528 in gbib "starting gbib produces segmentation fault in breezy" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/33528 | 10:16 |
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| sivang | slomo_: how do you set up debuild to sign your package at end of debuil -S ? | 10:17 |
| uniq | i think it's default behaviour if you have gnupg installed? -us -uc tells it to not sign. | 10:18 |
| slomo_ | sivang: no idea, i use dpkg-buildpackage... and it does this by default unless you specify -uc or -us | 10:18 |
| sivang | slomo_: okay, thanks | 10:18 |
| sivang | slomo_: debuild is basically a frontend to dpkg-buildpackage IIRC | 10:20 |
| uniq | sivang: you can actually set the options in /etc/devscripts.conf | 10:20 |
| uniq | i have not done it, and it sill works.. though. | 10:21 |
| sivang | uniq: yes worked for me now, I guess it just needed to sense that the secring is there | 10:21 |
| sivang | uniq: I just plugged the usbdisk with my keys, so may it be it needed time to open the secring file | 10:21 |
| sivang | weird, in any case. | 10:22 |
| sivang | but works now | 10:22 |
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| sivang | slomo_: I upload to revu just to see if it works, it does not include the changes required yet. | 10:23 |
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| bddebian | crimsun: Are you playing with this or did I lose you? :-) | 10:28 |
| crimsun | my machine is very slow, dpkg is just finishing postinst | 10:28 |
| bddebian | Ahh :-) | 10:28 |
| sivang | slomo_: is the {python:Depends} like shlibs:Depends for python programs? | 10:31 |
| crimsun | bddebian: the bug report is a red herring for scilab | 10:31 |
| bddebian | ?? | 10:32 |
| slomo_ | sivang: not really... only the python dependencies are put in there... the dependencies on python, not the dependencies on any python packages like python-gtk2 | 10:32 |
| crimsun | bddebian: pvm is a Recommends; the font issue is due to defoma | 10:32 |
| bddebian | Did you run it? | 10:32 |
| crimsun | yes | 10:32 |
| bddebian | You get that weird ass font? | 10:32 |
| crimsun | yes, it's due to defoma | 10:32 |
| bddebian | OK, fine but how do I fix it? :-) | 10:33 |
| crimsun | that bug report is misfiled against scilab | 10:33 |
| sivang | slomo_: is there something like the shlibs for python? I would envisage a subtvar that would take care of adding the required dependenies by going over my import statement sin the code :-) | 10:33 |
| bddebian | Ooohhh | 10:33 |
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| bddebian | Hmm | 10:33 |
| seamus-laptop | anyone from laptop testing here? | 10:33 |
| bddebian | What about the weird pvm3 path error on startup? | 10:33 |
| tseng | seamus-laptop: #ubuntu-laptop | 10:33 |
| seamus-laptop | gratzi | 10:33 |
| crimsun | bddebian: that's not an error, that's just informative. pvm is a Recommends, so using apt-get doesn't install it by default. It's harmless. | 10:34 |
| slomo_ | sivang: unfortunately not (afaik) as not all import are a depenendency... think of (try: import foo except: try: import bar except pass) | 10:34 |
| bddebian | Hmm | 10:34 |
| === bddebian wonders if it's built with --with-pvm, why it's just a recommends | ||
| sivang | slomo_: ah right | 10:34 |
| crimsun | bddebian: well if you feel strongly, promote pvm to Depends :) | 10:35 |
| bddebian | I don't know, I'm dumb, remember | 10:35 |
| crimsun | then flip a coin | 10:35 |
| crimsun | heads don't promote, tails promote | 10:35 |
| bddebian | So what do I do about defoma? It's in main :-( | 10:36 |
| sivang | bddebian: you broke defoma ? ;-) | 10:36 |
| crimsun | reassign, wash your hands like Pilate, and find another boog. :) | 10:36 |
| bddebian | Bah, I need to fix stuff.. :-( | 10:37 |
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| bddebian | crimsun: BTW, how did you determine that it's defoma? | 10:37 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: as long as it disappers from my list ;-) | 10:38 |
| === bddebian pokes LaserJock in the eye ;-P | ||
| LaserJock | bddebian: maybe you should file a bug upstream about pvm, if there isn't one already | 10:38 |
| crimsun | bddebian: try removing the Eastern ttf* packages | 10:39 |
| bddebian | crimsun: ?? | 10:39 |
| bddebian | Oh | 10:39 |
| bddebian | But where is it getting it from? | 10:39 |
| bddebian | Grr, maybe I should just hang my hat | 10:39 |
| crimsun | whatever's injecting it into defoma (pango?) | 10:39 |
| bddebian | So, no one ever answered me about what to do about Bug #33528 | 10:41 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 33528 in gbib "starting gbib produces segmentation fault in breezy" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/33528 | 10:41 |
| crimsun | close it | 10:42 |
| crimsun | I'm facing a similar bug in vlc RE: matroska files crashing it | 10:42 |
| bddebian | Close it as Fix Release "Fixed in Dapper" ? | 10:43 |
| bddebian | +d | 10:43 |
| crimsun | no, reject it. Fixed means it was actually fixed; that can't be confirmed here. | 10:43 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: yeah, upstream was never really able to fully confirm it, and I couldn't either for dapper | 10:44 |
| bddebian | But rejecting it just means we aren't going to fix it doesn't it? | 10:44 |
| LaserJock | it closes it as rejected | 10:44 |
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| LaserJock | don't do it! | 10:44 |
| crimsun | it can imply that, yes, but how can you fix it if you don't know what's wrong? It's simply not possible to fix it. | 10:44 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: I know but as a user, I would take that as "We ain't gonna fix it" :) | 10:44 |
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| LaserJock | bddebian: yes, we ain't gonna fix something that we can't confirm happens | 10:45 |
| crimsun | if you're really at odds with rejecting it, mark it Needs Info | 10:45 |
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| crimsun | (granted it'll probably stay in "Needs Info" indefinitely in that case ;) | 10:46 |
| LaserJock | but Debian has basically closed the same bug | 10:47 |
| crimsun | yes, Steve was nice enough to say "we can't reproduce it [so I'm rejecting it] " | 10:47 |
| bddebian | Hmm, what about the scilab bugs then | 10:49 |
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| sivang | slomo_: wow! http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/upbackup-0604241620/lintian | 10:50 |
| sivang | slomo_: cool | 10:50 |
| sivang | slomo_: almost as having a private slomo :) | 10:51 |
| bddebian | I guess I'll reject that one too | 10:51 |
| sivang | ogra: I'm sold on revu for now on | 10:52 |
| crimsun | I wouldn't; I'd reassign it to either pango or defoma | 10:52 |
| slomo_ | sivang: but it only lists some very common bugs ;) about the second one... ignore it... but debhelper in B-D and the other stuff in B-D-I | 10:52 |
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| bddebian | crimsun: Sorry, I was talking about the dies on startup bug. I'll re-assign the font problem to defoma | 10:54 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: it still does that? | 10:55 |
| crimsun | bddebian: it doesn't die on startup. | 11:00 |
| crimsun | bddebian: what appears in the console is simply an informative message | 11:01 |
| sivang | slomo_: second one on the revu/linda output? | 11:01 |
| slomo_ | sivang: lintian output... about the build-depends | 11:01 |
| bddebian | crimsun: I know, I rejected that one :-) | 11:02 |
| bddebian | Sheesh :-) | 11:02 |
| sivang | slomo_: okay, what about the -stamps ? | 11:03 |
| slomo_ | sivang: stamps? | 11:04 |
| sivang | slomo_: I see they do something, like dh_testdir and then touch the stamps so they won't get created on subsequent calls | 11:04 |
| sivang | slomo_: is it safe to remove them? | 11:04 |
| slomo_ | sivang: "safe" but not very wise ;) but you can remove the complete configure* targets because you don't do anything in there | 11:05 |
| sivang | slomo_: true, why "unwise" ? | 11:05 |
| slomo_ | sivang: because they save time :) | 11:06 |
| sivang | slomo_: but you told me to remove them :) | 11:06 |
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| slomo_ | sivang: it told you? | 11:06 |
| sivang | slomo_: no, in your email to me: | 11:07 |
| sivang | - remove the configure/configure-stamp targets... they don't do anything | 11:07 |
| slomo_ | yes... configure and configure-stamp, not all -stamp targets :) | 11:07 |
| sivang | slomo_: okay, so leave the configure one only. | 11:08 |
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| slomo_ | sivang: ? | 11:09 |
| sivang | slomo_: yes? | 11:11 |
| sivang | slomo_: sorry, I mean, remove all the configure ones, leave build-stamps :) | 11:12 |
| slomo_ | sivang: ok :) | 11:12 |
| dholbach | good night motus :) | 11:14 |
| LaserJock | cya dholbach | 11:15 |
| slomo_ | gn8 daniel :) | 11:15 |
| dholbach | night you two | 11:16 |
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| sivang | slomo_: hrm I realize now I have no idea why arch build is there | 11:29 |
| sivang | slomo_: or what it does | 11:29 |
| slomo_ | sivang: ok =) | 11:30 |
| slomo_ | sivang: then remove it ;) | 11:30 |
| sivang | slomo_: say, if I later want to add a C binary to my package, how easy would it be given that I am making this package Build-INdep mostly? | 11:30 |
| slomo_ | sivang: fairly easy... but why would you want to do that? ;) | 11:30 |
| sivang | slomo_: I may to add some C magic to detect free space on multi sessions CDs and non empty ones, as currently hal only reports the size of the allocated volume on a CD | 11:31 |
| sivang | slomo_: so I have realiable reading only for empty CDs | 11:31 |
| sivang | slomo_: (coreutils stat is used for other disk devices) | 11:31 |
| slomo_ | sivang: there should be hal magic for all of this imho | 11:33 |
| slomo_ | sivang: so better get this fixed there :) | 11:33 |
| sivang | slomo_: already checked upstream, this is as good as it gets. | 11:33 |
| sivang | slomo_: they told me to look for / implement my own methods to check this specific free space | 11:33 |
| slomo_ | sivang: do you call cdrecord directly? | 11:34 |
| sivang | slomo_: as adding this to hal would mean they'd need to probe devices every once in a while | 11:34 |
| sivang | slomo_: yes, why? | 11:34 |
| slomo_ | sivang: it can tell you this too iirc :) | 11:34 |
| sivang | slomo_: I sa something about cdrdao that can do this, not sure about cdrecord. I will check | 11:34 |
| sivang | slomo_: if you happen to run by it, please let me know or email me : | 11:35 |
| sivang | :) | 11:35 |
| sivang | argh, latency is killing me | 11:35 |
| slomo_ | sivang: i'll take a look tomorrow... but why don't you use nautilus-burn? | 11:36 |
| sivang | slomo_: well, I wanted it to be usable from nautils-cd-burn and libn-c-b is not installed | 11:36 |
| sivang | slomo_: to have as little dependencies a sI can | 11:36 |
| sivang | it works pretty good, only needs some more error trapping basically. | 11:37 |
| slomo_ | ok | 11:37 |
| sivang | slomo_: anyway, for the last change - must I remove all the shebangs? | 11:37 |
| sivang | slomo_: ah never mind, removed it from everything that is not menat to be run directly :) | 11:39 |
| slomo_ | cool | 11:39 |
| slomo_ | and everything else should be executable | 11:39 |
| sivang | slomo_: hmm, I wonder how I can do that in the existing package, and not intefere with the "scripts" directive of the dist-utils | 11:43 |
| sivang | slomo_: ny idea? mos tof the stuff installed under the package UPBackup in site-packages is to be executed reictly, but how do I make them executable? | 11:44 |
| slomo_ | sivang: make it after the python ./setup.py --install | 11:44 |
| sivang | slomo_: using install -m ? | 11:47 |
| slomo_ | sivang: using chmod +x ;) whatever you like more | 11:47 |
| sivang | slomo_: maybe there is a way to do that in the MANIFEST.in file? | 11:47 |
| slomo_ | maybe... no idea about python's distutil stuff ;) | 11:48 |
| sivang | slomo_: where can I assume the files to be for the chmod +x thingy? debian/tmp/pkg-name-ver ? | 11:52 |
| slomo_ | debian/tmp/usr/lib/python2.4/.... | 11:53 |
| sivang | slomo_: ah, okay, maybe I can use $(CURDIR) as it's used here: | 11:53 |
| sivang | python ./setup.py install --prefix=$(CURDIR)/debian/upbackup/usr | 11:53 |
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| sivang | although I'm not entirely sure about why it's /usr .. | 11:54 |
| slomo_ | where would you want it to be? ;) | 11:55 |
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| sivang | I just copied this bit from gdebi :) | 11:58 |
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