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[12:07] Zdra: so sabayon only adds profiles to those :) [12:07] sivang: I don't know ubuntu had a icon in the application menu with that before dapper, now it's hidden by default :) [12:07] way cool [12:07] all I know is that it worked on breezy :) [12:07] I wish I know what this is [12:07] knew [12:08] slomo: maybe you have an idea about gdmflexiserver ? === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.126.154.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === redguy [n=mati@acr136.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.126.146.37] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4208390.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@173.Red-83-56-136.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore__ [n=alex@70.55.133.162] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore__ [n=alex@70.55.133.162] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.126.154.186] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@ip-124-244.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@70.55.133.162] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung__ [n=abelcheu@221.126.144.56] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jmg [n=jmg@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@70.55.133.162] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung__ [n=abelcheu@221.126.152.171] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:32] afternoon Hobbsee [03:32] well, morning for you [03:33] morning ajmitch [03:33] Heya Hobbsee, ajmitch === Hobbsee didnt think it was *that* late! [03:33] hello bddebian [03:33] hi bddebian === ajmitch ended up waking up at 7:30AM, of course :P [03:34] heh [03:34] crazy ajmitch! [03:35] yes, crazy for staying up that late [03:35] someone is a bad influence on me, I'm sure [03:35] !@#$#$%^^ [03:35] ? [03:35] found a new way for the dcc exploit [03:36] ah [03:36] something else to deal with in channels [03:36] yes [03:37] sigh, I have to go off to uni in a few minutes === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:43] heh, enjoy === abelcheung__ [n=abelcheu@221.126.153.27] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] yay, 3 students in the lab [04:00] it's going to be an exciting afternoon [04:00] heh [04:02] ok, it's grown to 4 students, I might be really busy then :) === theCore [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4205883.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ozamos-__ [n=nozamosi@h48n5c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ growls at her dodgy net connection === Mongoose [n=mongoose@ip68-106-216-206.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral mutters to himself === Hobbsee pokes Kyral [04:31] hey [04:32] Heya Kyral [04:32] hey.... === Kyral is thinknig about stopping going for MOTU [04:34] Ack, why? [04:36] I dunno...I'm becoming more involved with ArchLinux... [04:36] Gah [04:37] Kyral: I guess you are finding it better for your needs? [04:37] TheMuso, yah [04:38] its quicker on the draw so to speak and its easier to tweak every aspect [04:38] quicker on the draw? === Mongoose [n=mongoose@ip68-106-216-206.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:39] Yah....as in performs faster [04:39] O RLY? [04:39] Kyral: =) [04:40] yah [04:40] and the AUR is nice [04:40] Do you really think i686 optimizations are helping with that? [04:40] AUR? [04:40] Kyral: What packaging system does it use? [04:41] bddebian: Its own AFAIK. [04:41] Their packages aren't broken down so much however. [04:41] So you want ncurses, you get the libs and the headers in the one package. === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:41] TheMuso: Ah [04:42] TheMuso, moreso that it doesn't assume you want any daemons running [04:42] ie, drops you to a command line and lets you build from scratch [04:42] Right. [04:42] so I don't have RAID running when I don't need [04:42] It is targeting a different audience I guess. [04:42] same with modules [04:42] Sounds like Slackware or Gentoo :-) [04:42] do a lsmod | wc -l right now and tell me how many modules you have loaded [04:43] I have 66 loaded [04:43] I was a Slackware user, but got sick of tweaking and settings things up [04:43] And the package management... [04:43] I played with arc a bit, but wasn't fond of it./ [04:43] Kyral: 63 [04:43] bddebian, on Ubuntu? [04:44] Kyral: Yep [04:44] hmm nm then lol [04:44] then again I have my full complement loaded [04:44] Kyral: Of course that's my server install ;-P === Kyral falls down [04:44] No GUI? [04:44] Nope :-) [04:45] Cheater.... [04:45] Kyral: So I guess the question is, why are you still here? [04:45] TheMuso, because I still maintain packages... [04:45] I won't abandon them [04:45] Right. [04:45] Oh bddebian I have you beat [04:45] horribly beat [04:46] If thats the case, you should go for MOTU, as the middle man will be removed if you have upload rights. [04:46] my XenBreezy server, only 12 modules loaded :P [04:46] So to speak. [04:46] But how much of that is in the kernel? :) [04:46] good point...I had to custom compile the kernel.... [04:46] Kyral: :-) [04:46] it IS Xen [04:47] 5.1 MB kernel [04:47] I should slash it down when I go to Xen 3 [04:47] I don't need like ANYTHING in there [04:47] I could prolly drop it to 2 MB [04:50] basically I'm a performance junkie right now [04:50] my laptop is 3 years old, so I need every advantage I can get [04:51] this Desktop is almost a year and a half and lives on an Athlon XP, which isn't made anymore (sadly) [05:03] and personally I find it fun to take these things to the limit :D [05:03] To see how far I can push my hardware [05:03] to see if I can do it [05:03] this is why I'm gonna (at least try) to make my own distro at some point === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:09] Good luck. :) [05:09] LFS is probably the place to start. [05:11] How'd you guess I was gonna start there :P === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:18] Thats where most would start probably. === Hobbsee shudders at the idea of masses of compiling [05:20] hehe [05:20] It would be fun to see if I could do it [05:20] to write my own package management system [05:21] I may be getting ahead of my self, but I think I know what I would call it [05:25] Infinity Linux (I was doodling in class the other day and I randomly drew the Infinity symbol and thought "Hey! That would be a cool name for a distro") === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:31] hehe [05:32] Heya tritium [05:32] hello bddebian :) [05:32] Fetched 150MB in 5m50s (427kB/s) [05:32] \o/ updates [05:32] lol [05:32] hello :) === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:36] Heya zakame [05:36] hello bddebian === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seamus-laptop [n=matt@cpe-024-211-236-248.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:13] anyone run ubuntu on a macbok pro? === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-96-165.d-ip.magma.ca] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.155.229] has joined #ubuntu-motu === redguy [n=mati@adr8.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B032F.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:58] good morning motu world :) [07:59] afternoon dholbach [07:59] it's evening, not afternoon [07:59] the sun has set! [07:59] hey Hobbsee :) [07:59] Hobbsee: how are you? [07:59] i'm okay, thinking about lunch and work === dholbach thinks about coffee and work ;) [08:01] i finally got that vi mug during the weekend [08:01] maybe it'll work better for me today :-p [08:02] Hobbsee: isn't it a little late for lunch? :) [08:02] ajmitch: its' 4pm... [08:02] and if i dont have some form of lunch before work, i'll pass out... [08:02] Hobbsee: don't worry - seb128 asks me the same questions all the time :) [08:02] yes [08:02] hehe [08:02] so it's dinner, not lunch [08:03] we really don't think passing out is a good idea [08:04] no, dinner will be when i get home again! [08:05] heh [08:05] and breakfast was at noon? === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee now has lunch. [08:14] er...did breakfast occur today? [08:14] welcome back, good to see you're still with us [08:15] oh yeah, it was yesterday that it didnt occur. yes, lunch occured today...11am or something... [08:21] of course i'm still here. i'd only pass out in a few hours, at work === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@mail.trinsite.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dewd [n=dewd@201009186251.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-097-132.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:31] slomo_: ping, morning === selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === adu [n=adu@pool-72-66-81-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:18] ahh === adu [n=adu@pool-72-66-81-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === herzi_x41 [n=herzi@pD9E2BB53.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@host122-214.pool8249.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sivang [n=sivang@piware.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@173.Red-83-56-136.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@host199-235.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Slant_Mobile [n=scott@64-13-84-119.lew.clearwire-dns.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Slant_Mobile [n=scott@64-13-84-119.lew.clearwire-dns.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tdjb [n=tdjb@209.151.52.189] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@84.Red-83-55-199.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:18] hi all [02:20] hi zakame === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:24] evening Hobbsee [02:24] hi ajmitch [02:24] thought you might still be awake [02:24] me? nah.. [02:26] yes. you. [02:26] why would I be awake at this hour? [02:27] because you never sleep? [02:27] hello ajmitch Hobbsee [02:27] hi zakame === StevenK jumps on Hobbsee. === Hobbsee pokes StevenK hard in the ribs [02:29] hello StevenK [02:29] Ouch! === StevenK waves. [02:30] heya StevenK === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee waves to Seveas [02:30] hi Seveas [02:31] hi === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@84.Red-83-55-199.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin` [n=marcin@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cyberix [n=cyberix@hoas-fe36dd00-251.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:45] slomo_: GNUnet update ack. gnunet-gtk will get an update too? === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:50] heylo [02:50] heylo zul [02:51] hey zakame === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryu [n=chris@p5487D8E0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === selinium [n=selinium@82-45-118-133.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:52] hi people [03:52] hello phanatic [03:53] hi phanatic, zakame [03:53] hey zakame, Gloubiboulga === Hobbsee waves to zakame Gloubiboulga and phanatic === phanatic waves back to Hobbsee :) [03:55] hi Hobbsee [03:55] Hobbsee: it's easier to just wave to .* [03:56] heh [03:57] heya Gloubiboulga Hobbsee [03:57] $motu->wave === Mithrandir waves to ajmitch, tickles Hobbsee and runs away again [03:58] heh [03:58] lol === Hobbsee thwaps Mithrandir and pokes him hard in the ribs [03:58] Hobbsee: too late, I'm out of range already. === Hobbsee gets her big stick ready for the next time [03:59] I'll have to bring a long stick with feathers on, then? [04:00] haha [04:00] you'll find it pretty hard to manipulate === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] morning bddebian [04:00] heya bddebian [04:00] hi bddebian === Hobbsee pokes bddebian with the big stick [04:01] see, this is how it's done... === sivang [n=sivang@piware.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:01] Heya gang [04:01] Hi ajmitch, zakame, Hobbsee [04:01] heya bddebian jaw breaker :) [04:01] heh [04:01] Hi sivang [04:02] bddebian: what are you plans for breaking today? :-D [04:02] *your [04:02] he's going to break apt, of course :D [04:02] hehe [04:02] Dunno yet, got something I SHOULD break? ;-P [04:02] bddebian: hehe [04:03] bddebian: yes, apt. === zerokarmaleft_ [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zerokarmaleft_ is now known as zerokarmaleft [04:05] Nah, I like "fixing" a bug for a universe package, trying to upload, then finding out part of it is in main :-( [04:05] hehe [04:06] and having to get main UVF exceptions? :) [04:06] lol === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:07] ajmitch: Nah, it was a small change === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:12] Heya tuxmaniac [04:12] bddebian: Hi [04:12] Got your email [04:12] bddebian: I will change the changelog [04:12] Cool. Any resolution on the REVU problem yet? [04:13] bddebian: Nope. Still it says file already present in the server! :) [04:13] changelog the changelog [04:13] zakame: :-) [04:13] hi zakame :) === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:14] heya tuxmaniac [04:14] wb phanatic [04:15] hey zakame [04:15] ajmitch: Any chance you have a second to look at tuxmaniac's upload to REVU? [04:15] ajmitch: I dont know whether it got uploaded :) === herzi [n=herzi@d060237.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] wowoctaviz takes long [04:17] gar sticky keys [04:18] tuxmaniac: what package? [04:18] XCircuit [04:19] tuxmaniac: how far did the upload get? [04:19] since I don't see it at all on there [04:20] ajmitch: All the 4 files got uploaded.. [04:20] unless someone has kindly removed it [04:20] Initially I dint configure it to revu [04:20] ah right [04:20] ajmitch: so might have got uploaed to ubuntu [04:20] that's probably why [04:20] you tried again with dput -f ? [04:21] ajmitch: But afterwards bddebian helpeed me.. And when i again tried [04:21] ajmitch: it throws up a File already present in the server error! [04:21] and in your dput config? [04:21] I can see that it's certainly not here [04:21] yes [04:22] I did change my dput.cf file. [04:22] yes, but tell me what's in your dput.cf file, please [04:23] http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/677164 [04:23] Thats the error i get [04:23] right, so it says that files *may* be present [04:23] tuxmaniac: Can you pastbin your dput.cf? [04:23] but it's likely that your dput.cf is wrong [04:24] http://pastebin.com/678896 [04:24] ajmitch: I am new to packaging.. So bare with me pls :) [04:25] tuxmaniac: it's wrong, change it to what is on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU [04:25] hmm gnus just got the O [04:25] specifically the incoming = / line [04:25] should be incoming = /incoming [04:26] ajmitch: Oh ok [04:27] ajmit:)ch: zakame : bddebian : Its uploading finally [04:27] ajmitch: Danke! [04:27] ok, now people can get on correcting the packages :) [04:27] tuxmaniac: Awesome! [04:28] ajmitch: Thanks [04:28] tuxmaniac: rock on! =) [04:28] thanks all.. I luv ubuntu for this only... [04:28] :-) [04:29] bddebian: And abt the other issue of installing into X diectory [04:29] bddebian: thats how the previous package was packed :P [04:30] Guys while uploading should the dinstall run? [04:31] No [04:31] tuxmaniac: Well it was wrong too then :-) [04:32] tuxmaniac: Does it run imake or xmkmf? [04:34] Yeah.. Successfully uploaded packages :) [04:35] Nope [04:35] bddebian: it did not run.. I first did a simulation and then really uploaded then [04:36] tuxmaniac: because you uploaded a binary package, not a source package === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee wonders what imake actually is [04:37] maybe it was somethign else that i was thinking of... [04:37] Hobbsee: A PITA, that's what imake/xmkmf is :-) [04:37] hehe [04:37] right [04:37] Hobbsee: Evil [04:37] even more evil than checkinstall? [04:37] almost [04:38] oh yeah, it was that that i was thinking of... [04:38] how does one change the file to use make instead? change teh makefile or something? [04:39] ajmitch: I have uploaded .orig also.. Is that enough? [04:39] ajmitch: I mean when I gave dput.. It uploaded the changes, dsc,deb, .orig.tar [04:39] ajmitch: Is that fine or something else to be done? [04:40] tuxmaniac: did it upload the .diff.gz? [04:40] Sorry I missed it out [04:41] Hobbsee: Yes it did :D [04:41] oh good [04:41] tuxmaniac: no it's not ok, sorry\ [04:41] you need to build a source-only package [04:41] eg debuild -S -sa [04:42] Oh Thanks I do it right away [04:43] ajmitch: Done! [04:43] ajmitch: I upload it once again? [04:43] yes [04:44] make sure you upload the _source.changes file [04:47] ajmitch: Again the previous problem of file already existent on the server comes :( [04:48] try again, with dput -f [04:48] ajmitch: Yeah Doing it! [04:49] ajmitch: Danke :) [05:00] ajmitch: Hey Connection Refused upload I guess! [05:00] Sorry for disturbing you ajmitch [05:00] what do you mean? [05:01] ajmitch: likes being kept up all night, you know :P - he doesnt sleep, anyway [05:01] shh [05:01] Connection refused.. My network dropped.. :( Again I try to do a dput and same file already existing rror [05:02] pops up [05:02] which is different from the connection being refused [05:02] I can clear it so you can try again [05:02] Yeah pls.. :) Sorry yaar! [05:02] try again please [05:03] yeah uploading === ozamos-__ [n=nnozamos@h48n5c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac is away: Off for Dinner! [05:12] night all [05:12] Later ajmitch === ozamos-__ [n=nnnozamo@h75n14c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ozamos0__ [n=nnnnozam@h157n1c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === wooster1168 [n=josh@24.115.218.54.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac is back (gone 00:47:09) [05:57] hi tuxmaniac [05:57] jpatrick: Hi.. The thing got solved! Wrong Dput configuraton :) [05:57] d'oh [05:57] jpatrick: But my network is irritating me.. [05:57] jpatrick: Murphy's law!! Still unable to upload! [05:57] :-( [05:58] I usually get that [05:58] just that it doesn't go slooow, it just _stops_ entirely [05:58] jpatrick: Exactly the problem!! :) [05:59] jpatrick: Somebody has to clear the previous upload for me now! Hope ajmitch does not mind once again.. :) [06:00] tuxmaniac: I could [06:00] bddebian: U have any suggestion to automatically force! -f is _not_ working [06:00] jpatrick: Nice if you can do it :) [06:01] tuxmaniac: try now [06:04] yeah thanks jpatrick [06:04] no problem [06:05] tuxmaniac: I didn't know you hung out in #hurd too ;-) [06:06] bddebian: A newbie there too.. Jus got impressed with its archtecture [06:06] bddebian: A fan from yesterday! [06:06] :) [06:06] :-) === goslackware [n=goslackw@ip70-174-144-140.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:08] Done! Upload successful [06:08] woohoo [06:09] tuxmaniac: running revu-report as an added extra [06:11] wow, lots of compile warnings === Unfrgiven [n=ankur@ubuntu/member/unfrgiven] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:11] jpatrick: Yes.. :) I tried to remove it.. Seems its an Upstream problem! [06:11] tuxmaniac: done; http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2302 [06:12] jpatrick: Super! Thanks [06:15] jpatrick: Seems there are lots of problems! === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ozamos-__ [n=nnnnnoza@h10n14c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B032F.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:42] hello all [06:42] hi Tonio_ === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:45] Gloubiboulga: you're trying the motu membership ? [06:46] Heya Tonio_ [06:46] hey bddebian [06:47] hi bddebian and Tonio_ [06:47] Heya LaserJock [06:47] hey LaserJock ;) [06:48] Tonio_, yes :) [06:48] Gloubiboulga: I'll be there to support you :) [06:49] merci Tonio_ :) [06:49] de rien ;) [06:49] Gloubiboulga: j'ai toujours aim l'ile aux enfants ;) [06:49] hh [06:50] _ groovy [06:53] hey Gloubiboulga, that's great :) i'm sure you make it === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.155.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:53] phanatic, thanks, we'll see tomorrow... [06:56] i'll try to be there too as a silent supporter :) [06:57] thanks :) === marcin` [n=marcin@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jmg [n=jmg@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === |ZuZuu| [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-65-40.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@d060237.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:33] cyberix: yes === lbm [n=lbm@82.192.169.174] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:06] Is there some way I can get 'apt-get build-dep foo' to continue even on errors? === bddebian loves talking to himself === ozamosi [n=ozamosi@80.252.191.79] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:13] ever thought about podcasting your monologues ? :P [08:13] i guess a local repo in sources.list might do [08:14] ogra: What, of me talking to myself since no one answers me? :-) [08:14] yep :) [08:14] This is why I'll never be a main uploader :'-( === bddebian feels unloved again [08:17] slomo_: Great === Mithrandir ruffles bddebian === bddebian crosses his fingers and starts a scilab build [08:22] heh [08:22] I'll cross mine too === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:17] LaserJock: ping [09:17] jpatrick: hi [09:18] did you get my patch? [09:18] scilab SUCKS! :-) === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:19] jpatrick: yep [09:19] sivang: ping? [09:19] jpatrick: but I haven't applied it yet. === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === farruinn [n=nathan@ssprange-3.umm.maine.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [09:31] slomo_: pong [09:32] sivang: i have some time now for your package :) === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:33] slomo_: cool, lt me see if I can put an archive online somewhere with fixes [09:33] sivang: ask siretart for a revu login and upload it there ;) [09:34] slomo_: at the momnet it would be faster for me to put it on one of the servers I'm using :-) [09:34] bddebian: url to packages in which you're getting that error on autoconf [09:34] crimsun: It's scilab [09:35] crimsun: But I'm using the newer .1 release from Debian [09:35] do you plan to/have you file/d a uvfe for it? [09:35] slomo_: there some small fixes (yet) I want to do before the initial upload, until when will you be available ? [09:36] sivang: 2 1/2 hours from now at least [09:36] crimsun: Do I need one for a release add for a bugfix? I thought that was only for API/ABI changes? [09:36] slomo_: okay, if I can pull the fix in an hour, I'll do that, if not then just ping you back to review and upload if appropriate [09:37] bddebian: no, it's more like an informative clue for me, since I need to prioritise my pbuilder attempts [09:37] crimsun: Well just give me a hint, you don't have to build it :-) [09:38] I can't give you a hint without trying it, but I'll attempt Debian's .1 in a few minutes as soon as I leave this meeting. === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:47] slomo_: okay, let's do it this way, I've put the fixed archive online, http://mercury.linuxguru.net/~sivan/HUB [09:47] ? [09:47] slomo_: see if this is okay, if so, I'll then work on the fix I wanted to have and then ping you to do the actual upload given I do not touch the packaging anymore. [09:47] sivang: as it's a native package don't use a x.y.z-a version... but only x.y.z [09:47] hub: oh, sorry again. [09:48] sivang, you should consider renamming the abbreviation :) [09:48] ogra: yes :) [09:49] slomo_: apart for that, everything's okay with respect to your other comments? [09:49] sivang: no... i found new issues ;) shall i write them here or by mail? [09:49] slomo_: email plesae === sivang sighs [09:50] sivang: address? [09:50] slomo_: sivan@ubuntu.com [09:50] why dont you guys just use revu ? === CarlFK [n=carl@c-67-163-39-124.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:50] ogra: don't ask me but sivang ;) [09:50] ogra: I was wondering that myself === G0SUB_ [i=ghoseb@ubuntu-in.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sivang searches for the revu instructions. [09:53] I need to send a signed email somewhere right? === Lure_ [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:53] slomo_: I recall now I forgot to take off the shlibs:Depends [09:54] sivang: yes, but that's not the only problem ;) [09:54] sivang, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU [09:55] hmm, ajmitch already added a while ago [09:55] ogra: how di I put my package there if I'm already in the keyring? === sivang recalls he already set up REVU acces IHRR [09:56] ogra: thanks, this page has all instructions [09:56] sivang dput [09:56] :) [09:58] weird, [09:58] I already have a revu entry in dput.cf [09:58] does it come like this when you install dput ? :) [09:59] yep iirc [10:01] nice === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:02] bddebian: ping [10:03] Yo [10:03] So, what are we doing with "fixed in Dapper" bugs? [10:03] bddebian: are you syncing? [10:04] crimsun: No, I'm adding a desktop file and cping X11_defaults/scilab.xpm to usr/share/pixmaps [10:04] bug #(s)? [10:05] Bug #3496 [10:05] Malone bug 3496 in scilab "scilab installer bad path and fonts" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/3496 [10:07] ok, maybe I'm missing something, but there's no attachment with a desktop file [10:07] sivang: review finished :) [10:09] bddebian: does 14.1 actually address the font issue(s)? Nothing in the changelog mentions it. [10:10] bddebian: 14.1 pbuilds fine here (ia32) [10:11] crimsun: No, I am adding the desktop file myself. That's my specialty ;-P I know it builds fine but it's picking up /X11R6/ dirs from configure, which is why I wanted to try an autoconf, etc [10:11] Try to run it [10:11] ah, ok. [10:13] slomo_: yes, got your email. Funny I was sure I moved all needd to Binary-Indep :) === sivang hopes for a last nitpicking cycle [10:13] :) [10:14] sivang: huh? i didn't say something about binary-indep, that was ok :) [10:14] slomo_: hmm, after workday tiredness then : [10:14] :) [10:14] slomo_: sorry for whining [10:15] slomo_: btw, how do you pick al those errors so quick and with detail? :) [10:16] sivang: np :) hmm, you get used to find such problems fast after reviewing many packages [10:16] I can't reproduce Bug #33528 Close it as Fixed in Dapper? [10:16] Malone bug 33528 in gbib "starting gbib produces segmentation fault in breezy" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/33528 === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:17] slomo_: how do you set up debuild to sign your package at end of debuil -S ? [10:18] i think it's default behaviour if you have gnupg installed? -us -uc tells it to not sign. [10:18] sivang: no idea, i use dpkg-buildpackage... and it does this by default unless you specify -uc or -us [10:18] slomo_: okay, thanks [10:20] slomo_: debuild is basically a frontend to dpkg-buildpackage IIRC [10:20] sivang: you can actually set the options in /etc/devscripts.conf [10:21] i have not done it, and it sill works.. though. [10:21] uniq: yes worked for me now, I guess it just needed to sense that the secring is there [10:21] uniq: I just plugged the usbdisk with my keys, so may it be it needed time to open the secring file [10:22] weird, in any case. [10:22] but works now === TMM [n=hp@cp611456-a.roemd1.lb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:23] slomo_: I upload to revu just to see if it works, it does not include the changes required yet. === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:28] crimsun: Are you playing with this or did I lose you? :-) [10:28] my machine is very slow, dpkg is just finishing postinst [10:28] Ahh :-) [10:31] slomo_: is the {python:Depends} like shlibs:Depends for python programs? [10:31] bddebian: the bug report is a red herring for scilab [10:32] ?? [10:32] sivang: not really... only the python dependencies are put in there... the dependencies on python, not the dependencies on any python packages like python-gtk2 [10:32] bddebian: pvm is a Recommends; the font issue is due to defoma [10:32] Did you run it? [10:32] yes [10:32] You get that weird ass font? [10:32] yes, it's due to defoma [10:33] OK, fine but how do I fix it? :-) [10:33] that bug report is misfiled against scilab [10:33] slomo_: is there something like the shlibs for python? I would envisage a subtvar that would take care of adding the required dependenies by going over my import statement sin the code :-) [10:33] Ooohhh === seamus-laptop [n=matt@cpe-024-211-236-248.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:33] Hmm [10:33] anyone from laptop testing here? [10:33] What about the weird pvm3 path error on startup? [10:33] seamus-laptop: #ubuntu-laptop [10:33] gratzi [10:34] bddebian: that's not an error, that's just informative. pvm is a Recommends, so using apt-get doesn't install it by default. It's harmless. [10:34] sivang: unfortunately not (afaik) as not all import are a depenendency... think of (try: import foo except: try: import bar except pass) [10:34] Hmm === bddebian wonders if it's built with --with-pvm, why it's just a recommends [10:34] slomo_: ah right [10:35] bddebian: well if you feel strongly, promote pvm to Depends :) [10:35] I don't know, I'm dumb, remember [10:35] then flip a coin [10:35] heads don't promote, tails promote [10:36] So what do I do about defoma? It's in main :-( [10:36] bddebian: you broke defoma ? ;-) [10:36] reassign, wash your hands like Pilate, and find another boog. :) [10:37] Bah, I need to fix stuff.. :-( === sivang hugs bddebian and cheers him up [10:37] crimsun: BTW, how did you determine that it's defoma? [10:38] bddebian: as long as it disappers from my list ;-) === bddebian pokes LaserJock in the eye ;-P [10:38] bddebian: maybe you should file a bug upstream about pvm, if there isn't one already [10:39] bddebian: try removing the Eastern ttf* packages [10:39] crimsun: ?? [10:39] Oh [10:39] But where is it getting it from? [10:39] Grr, maybe I should just hang my hat [10:39] whatever's injecting it into defoma (pango?) [10:41] So, no one ever answered me about what to do about Bug #33528 [10:41] Malone bug 33528 in gbib "starting gbib produces segmentation fault in breezy" [Normal,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/33528 [10:42] close it [10:42] I'm facing a similar bug in vlc RE: matroska files crashing it [10:43] Close it as Fix Release "Fixed in Dapper" ? [10:43] +d [10:43] no, reject it. Fixed means it was actually fixed; that can't be confirmed here. [10:44] bddebian: yeah, upstream was never really able to fully confirm it, and I couldn't either for dapper [10:44] But rejecting it just means we aren't going to fix it doesn't it? [10:44] it closes it as rejected === bddebian runs towards the cliff face [10:44] don't do it! [10:44] it can imply that, yes, but how can you fix it if you don't know what's wrong? It's simply not possible to fix it. [10:44] LaserJock: I know but as a user, I would take that as "We ain't gonna fix it" :) === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@host199-235.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:45] bddebian: yes, we ain't gonna fix something that we can't confirm happens [10:45] if you're really at odds with rejecting it, mark it Needs Info === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:46] (granted it'll probably stay in "Needs Info" indefinitely in that case ;) [10:47] but Debian has basically closed the same bug [10:47] yes, Steve was nice enough to say "we can't reproduce it [so I'm rejecting it] " [10:49] Hmm, what about the scilab bugs then === seamus-laptop [n=matt@cpe-024-211-236-248.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [10:50] slomo_: wow! http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/upbackup-0604241620/lintian [10:50] slomo_: cool [10:51] slomo_: almost as having a private slomo :) [10:51] I guess I'll reject that one too [10:52] ogra: I'm sold on revu for now on [10:52] I wouldn't; I'd reassign it to either pango or defoma [10:52] sivang: but it only lists some very common bugs ;) about the second one... ignore it... but debhelper in B-D and the other stuff in B-D-I === Mithrand1r [n=tfheen@c5100BC63.inet.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:54] crimsun: Sorry, I was talking about the dies on startup bug. I'll re-assign the font problem to defoma [10:55] bddebian: it still does that? [11:00] bddebian: it doesn't die on startup. [11:01] bddebian: what appears in the console is simply an informative message [11:01] slomo_: second one on the revu/linda output? [11:01] sivang: lintian output... about the build-depends [11:02] crimsun: I know, I rejected that one :-) [11:02] Sheesh :-) [11:03] slomo_: okay, what about the -stamps ? [11:04] sivang: stamps? [11:04] slomo_: I see they do something, like dh_testdir and then touch the stamps so they won't get created on subsequent calls [11:04] slomo_: is it safe to remove them? [11:05] sivang: "safe" but not very wise ;) but you can remove the complete configure* targets because you don't do anything in there [11:05] slomo_: true, why "unwise" ? [11:06] sivang: because they save time :) [11:06] slomo_: but you told me to remove them :) === sivang is confused [11:06] sivang: it told you? [11:07] slomo_: no, in your email to me: [11:07] - remove the configure/configure-stamp targets... they don't do anything [11:07] yes... configure and configure-stamp, not all -stamp targets :) [11:08] slomo_: okay, so leave the configure one only. === farruinn [n=nathan@ssprange-3.umm.maine.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:09] sivang: ? [11:11] slomo_: yes? [11:12] slomo_: sorry, I mean, remove all the configure ones, leave build-stamps :) [11:12] sivang: ok :) [11:14] good night motus :) [11:15] cya dholbach [11:15] gn8 daniel :) [11:16] night you two === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:29] slomo_: hrm I realize now I have no idea why arch build is there [11:29] slomo_: or what it does [11:30] sivang: ok =) [11:30] sivang: then remove it ;) [11:30] slomo_: say, if I later want to add a C binary to my package, how easy would it be given that I am making this package Build-INdep mostly? [11:30] sivang: fairly easy... but why would you want to do that? ;) [11:31] slomo_: I may to add some C magic to detect free space on multi sessions CDs and non empty ones, as currently hal only reports the size of the allocated volume on a CD [11:31] slomo_: so I have realiable reading only for empty CDs [11:31] slomo_: (coreutils stat is used for other disk devices) [11:33] sivang: there should be hal magic for all of this imho [11:33] sivang: so better get this fixed there :) [11:33] slomo_: already checked upstream, this is as good as it gets. [11:33] slomo_: they told me to look for / implement my own methods to check this specific free space [11:34] sivang: do you call cdrecord directly? [11:34] slomo_: as adding this to hal would mean they'd need to probe devices every once in a while [11:34] slomo_: yes, why? [11:34] sivang: it can tell you this too iirc :) [11:34] slomo_: I sa something about cdrdao that can do this, not sure about cdrecord. I will check [11:35] slomo_: if you happen to run by it, please let me know or email me : [11:35] :) [11:35] argh, latency is killing me [11:36] sivang: i'll take a look tomorrow... but why don't you use nautilus-burn? [11:36] slomo_: well, I wanted it to be usable from nautils-cd-burn and libn-c-b is not installed [11:36] slomo_: to have as little dependencies a sI can [11:37] it works pretty good, only needs some more error trapping basically. [11:37] ok [11:37] slomo_: anyway, for the last change - must I remove all the shebangs? [11:39] slomo_: ah never mind, removed it from everything that is not menat to be run directly :) [11:39] cool [11:39] and everything else should be executable [11:43] slomo_: hmm, I wonder how I can do that in the existing package, and not intefere with the "scripts" directive of the dist-utils [11:44] slomo_: ny idea? mos tof the stuff installed under the package UPBackup in site-packages is to be executed reictly, but how do I make them executable? [11:44] sivang: make it after the python ./setup.py --install [11:47] slomo_: using install -m ? [11:47] sivang: using chmod +x ;) whatever you like more [11:47] slomo_: maybe there is a way to do that in the MANIFEST.in file? [11:48] maybe... no idea about python's distutil stuff ;) [11:52] slomo_: where can I assume the files to be for the chmod +x thingy? debian/tmp/pkg-name-ver ? [11:53] debian/tmp/usr/lib/python2.4/.... [11:53] slomo_: ah, okay, maybe I can use $(CURDIR) as it's used here: [11:53] python ./setup.py install --prefix=$(CURDIR)/debian/upbackup/usr === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:54] although I'm not entirely sure about why it's /usr .. [11:55] where would you want it to be? ;) === nikolas_ [n=nick@unaffiliated/nicktastic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:58] I just copied this bit from gdebi :) === sivang checks gdebi to get reminded