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AnsiC | hello | 03:13 |
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AnsiC | apt-get install toolchain-source | 03:14 |
AnsiC | tpkg-install i*86-linux OR tpkg-install i686-linux ?? | 03:14 |
AnsiC | the target list show i*86-linux | 03:14 |
AnsiC | i must write * or i need susbstitute * whit 6 ? | 03:15 |
doko | AnsiC: I think, toolchain-source is a bit outdated | 03:18 |
AnsiC | are you mean that is better i download a updated toolchain | 03:19 |
AnsiC | ?? | 03:19 |
AnsiC | i was in the channel LFS, i ask: why create a toolchain for build a linux system? | 03:21 |
AnsiC | can i use my ubuntu to build a system | 03:21 |
AnsiC | somebody respond: no, for build a sane system you need a toolchain | 03:22 |
AnsiC | i do not tall the this is not true | 03:22 |
AnsiC | but nobody can explain me why is better use a toolchain | 03:22 |
AnsiC | or tall me what risks i have if i build the new system under ubuntu | 03:23 |
doko | I'm not sure about your goal | 03:25 |
AnsiC | on lfs channel somebody tall: for build a sane system you need a toolchain | 03:26 |
AnsiC | ubuntu is not a toolchain, ubuntu is not good for build a sane system | 03:26 |
AnsiC | so i respond, a sane system is good for build other sane system | 03:27 |
AnsiC | and somebody tall me: no! toolchain is not a system | 03:27 |
AnsiC | :( | 03:27 |
AnsiC | now i whant just have good tool for programming | 03:28 |
AnsiC | that build sane programs | 03:28 |
AnsiC | if you do not know what is LFS. it is Linux From Scratch | 03:29 |
AnsiC | a project the explain you how build your minimal linux system | 03:29 |
AnsiC | thi project explain to create some link but after this link i has problem with linker and gcc | 03:30 |
AnsiC | so. i want install a toolchain but i do not whant that this make interference whit my system | 03:31 |
AnsiC | what source about toolchain you suggest me download ? | 03:34 |
doko | we don't support rebuilding a package from scratch; if you want the sources used in ubuntu, download binutils, glibc and gcc-4.0 | 03:35 |
AnsiC | are you sure that new versions of package is a good idea? | 03:36 |
AnsiC | new version sometime = not very stable | 03:37 |
AnsiC | ok | 03:39 |
AnsiC | are you meand that is better i do not download toolchain-source | 03:39 |
AnsiC | but directly the components: binutils. gcc and glibc | 03:39 |
AnsiC | ? | 03:39 |
doko | I don't know the toolchain-source package | 03:39 |
AnsiC | apt-cache search toolchain | 03:41 |
AnsiC | toolchain-source - The GNU binutils and gcc source code | 03:41 |
AnsiC | toolchain-source-gdb - The GNU gdb source code | 03:41 |
AnsiC | toolchain-source-newlib - The newlib source code | 03:41 |
AnsiC | uclibc-toolchain - A compiler wrapper for uClibc | 03:41 |
AnsiC | and something more | 03:41 |
AnsiC | normally "apt-get install package" install the new versions | 03:44 |
infinity | AnsiC: Dude, "toolchain" is just a nickname given to "compiler, assembler, linker" combinations, and sometimes the lase libraries (libc, libstdc++) | 03:45 |
infinity | AnsiC: If you install "build-essential", you'll have what most people consider a "toolchain". | 03:45 |
infinity | AnsiC: Rebuilding it from toolchain-source (or from "apt-get source gcc-4.0 binutils glibc") may be fun for some, but not likely to provide you with what you want. | 03:46 |
infinity | AnsiC: Also, toolchain-source is horribly out of date, and doesn't contain sources matching our current toolchain. | 03:46 |
AnsiC | for me build a toolchain is not FUN becouse if i compile it and i forget someimportant thing the toolchain is corrupt | 03:54 |
AnsiC | and the programs that i build use this toolchain can be not sane | 03:55 |
AnsiC | so i prefer to install directly a sane toolchain | 03:55 |
AnsiC | when i have a sane toolchain i can build all | 03:55 |
AnsiC | what you suggets me to do ? | 03:56 |
AnsiC | i need to install the tools in one separate directory. for example /home/user/toolchain ? | 03:57 |
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