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[03:13] <AnsiC> hello
[03:14] <AnsiC> apt-get install toolchain-source
[03:14] <AnsiC> tpkg-install i*86-linux OR tpkg-install i686-linux ??
[03:14] <AnsiC> the target list show i*86-linux
[03:15] <AnsiC> i must write * or i need susbstitute * whit 6 ?
[03:18] <doko> AnsiC: I think, toolchain-source is a bit outdated
[03:19] <AnsiC> are you mean that is better i download a updated toolchain
[03:19] <AnsiC> ??
[03:21] <AnsiC> i was in the channel LFS, i ask: why create a toolchain for build a linux system?
[03:21] <AnsiC> can i use my ubuntu to build a system
[03:22] <AnsiC> somebody respond: no, for build a sane system you need a toolchain
[03:22] <AnsiC> i do not tall the this is not true
[03:22] <AnsiC> but nobody can explain me why is better use a toolchain
[03:23] <AnsiC> or tall me what risks i have if i build the new system under ubuntu 
[03:25] <doko> I'm not sure about your goal
[03:26] <AnsiC> on lfs channel somebody tall: for build a sane system you need a toolchain
[03:26] <AnsiC> ubuntu is not a toolchain, ubuntu is not good for build a sane system
[03:27] <AnsiC> so i respond, a sane system is good for build other sane system
[03:27] <AnsiC> and somebody tall me: no! toolchain is not a system
[03:27] <AnsiC> :(
[03:28] <AnsiC> now i whant just have good tool for programming
[03:28] <AnsiC> that build sane programs
[03:29] <AnsiC> if you do not know what is LFS. it is Linux From Scratch
[03:29] <AnsiC> a project the explain you how build your minimal linux system
[03:30] <AnsiC> thi project explain to create some link but after this link i has problem with linker and gcc
[03:31] <AnsiC> so. i want install a toolchain but i do not whant that this make interference whit my system
[03:34] <AnsiC> what source about toolchain you suggest me download ?
[03:35] <doko> we don't support rebuilding a package from scratch; if you want the sources used in ubuntu, download binutils, glibc and gcc-4.0
[03:36] <AnsiC> are you sure that new versions of package is a good idea?
[03:37] <AnsiC> new version sometime = not very stable
[03:39] <AnsiC> ok
[03:39] <AnsiC> are you meand that is better i do not download toolchain-source
[03:39] <AnsiC> but directly the components: binutils. gcc and glibc 
[03:39] <AnsiC> ?
[03:39] <doko> I don't know the toolchain-source package
[03:41] <AnsiC> apt-cache search toolchain
[03:41] <AnsiC> toolchain-source - The GNU binutils and gcc source code
[03:41] <AnsiC> toolchain-source-gdb - The GNU gdb source code
[03:41] <AnsiC> toolchain-source-newlib - The newlib source code
[03:41] <AnsiC> uclibc-toolchain - A compiler wrapper for uClibc
[03:41] <AnsiC> and something more
[03:44] <AnsiC> normally "apt-get install package" install the new versions 
[03:45] <infinity> AnsiC: Dude, "toolchain" is just a nickname given to "compiler, assembler, linker" combinations, and sometimes the lase libraries (libc, libstdc++)
[03:45] <infinity> AnsiC: If you install "build-essential", you'll have what most people consider a "toolchain".
[03:46] <infinity> AnsiC: Rebuilding it from toolchain-source (or from "apt-get source gcc-4.0 binutils glibc") may be fun for some, but not likely to provide you with what you want.
[03:46] <infinity> AnsiC: Also, toolchain-source is horribly out of date, and doesn't contain sources matching our current toolchain.
[03:54] <AnsiC> for me build a toolchain is not FUN becouse if i compile it and i forget someimportant thing the toolchain is corrupt
[03:55] <AnsiC> and the programs that i build use this toolchain can be not sane
[03:55] <AnsiC> so i prefer to install directly a sane toolchain
[03:55] <AnsiC> when i have a sane toolchain i can build all
[03:56] <AnsiC> what you suggets me to do ?
[03:57] <AnsiC> i need to install the tools in one separate directory. for example /home/user/toolchain ?
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