[12:00] <mart> scarn: they're not both linux?
[12:00] <graft> searunner: i mean the packages.ubuntu.com search page
[12:00] <sesstreets> harisund, ?
[12:00] <jirwin> i have played them before
[12:00] <jirwin> movie trailers and such.
[12:01] <searunner> ok here's another approach down load a DVD with all the source and then reinstall from scratch just to get the kernel source and gcc update needed for installing nforce drivers and then nvidia drivers
[12:01] <harisund> sesstreets, I want to try and backup my hard disk, exactly the way it is. There is a paid software called Symantec Ghost, from Norton, which maks copies of hard disks that can be deployed on other machines.
[12:01] <patrick_king> once i have installed samba, how do i set swat up
[12:01] <sesstreets> ok bootlogic
[12:01] <sesstreets> google it
[12:02] <zcat[1] > dd if=/dev/hda of=reallyybigimage.img
[12:02] <noisy_1> patrick, swat is incredibly easy
[12:02] <searunner> graft so searching for kernel gets a swarm of unrelated things which kernel am I supposed to be searcihing for
[12:02] <zcat[1] > 'exactly the way it is' -- including an exact copy of all the unused space..
[12:02] <scarn> mart one in winxp pro, other ubuntu 64bit
[12:03] <patrick_king> noisy_1: how do i install it
[12:03] <jeremybk> Hey everyone, could I get some to help me install LiveIce-SN
[12:03] <noisy_1> apt-get install swat
[12:03] <mart> scarn: why didn't you install ubuntu with the other drive in the machine, if that's how you are going to use them
[12:03] <harisund> By the way, does anybody know how to boot Ubuntu LiveCD into command-line only mode?
[12:03] <sesstreets> jeremybk, What the hell is LiveIce-SN?
[12:03] <noisy_1> use sudo if you're not root
[12:03] <patrick_king> noisy_1: ok cheers
[12:03] <sesstreets> or type su and then login
[12:03] <scarn> it seems to screw up the mbr on winxp
[12:03] <jeremybk> Its a program to stream mp3's it an icecast server
[12:04] <cens0red> can anyone recommend a utility that will tell me about my internal hardware? Things like FSB, CPU type, etc.
[12:04] <sesstreets> um synaptic
[12:04] <zcat[1] > cens0red: lshw
[12:04] <jeremybk> synaptic doesnt have it
[12:04] <Madpilot> cens0red, "sudo lshw" in terminal
[12:04] <jeremybk> Ive got directions on how to install it but...
[12:04] <sesstreets> jeremybk, did u enable the extra repos?
[12:04] <graft> searunner: what kernel are you running?
[12:04] <patrick_king> noisy_1: then i go to   http://localhost:901 dont i
[12:04] <usr13> How about installing a printer?
[12:04] <noisy_1> patrick, enable swat in inetd then restart it... It will have instrictions
[12:04] <cens0red> Madpilot and zcat[1]  thanks.
[12:04] <noisy_1> make sure its enabled and started
[12:04] <Joetheodd> How can I burn a BIN cd image file?
[12:05] <jeremybk> I run ./configure it says....loading cache ./config.cache
[12:05] <jeremybk> FSSTD DISABLED
[12:05] <jeremybk> checking for gcc... no
[12:05] <jeremybk> checking for cc... no
[12:05] <jeremybk> configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
[12:05] <sesstreets> Joetheodd, google it
[12:05] <gnomefreak> jeremybk: dont paste use pastebin for pasting please
[12:05] <sesstreets> you have to get gcc
[12:05] <Madpilot> jeremybk, pastebin next time!
[12:05] <sesstreets> Its his first its okay
[12:05] <jeremybk> whats pastebin?
[12:05] <sesstreets> pastebin.com
[12:05] <gnomefreak> jeremybk: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:05] <mart> Joetheodd: I'm not sure you can. I think you might need to convert it to iso first
[12:05] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell jeremybk about pastebin
[12:05] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[12:05] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[12:06] <jeremybk> ohhh ok
[12:06] <jeremybk> sorry
[12:06] <graft> all this pastebin talk is more spammy than his original paste
[12:06] <sesstreets> its ok
[12:06] <jeremybk> lol
[12:06] <scarn> mart , ubuntu installs on the mbr on winxp..which screws everything up
[12:06] <Madpilot> graft, not in the long run, it's not
[12:06] <jeremybk> so sudo apt-get install build-essentials should work?
[12:06] <mart> scarn: you might have to use expert mode install to prevent that.
[12:06] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:06] <jeremybk> ok
[12:06] <sesstreets> Why isnt build essentials already in there?
[12:06] <jeremybk> ill go try that
[12:06] <gnomefreak> jeremybk: no s on the end
[12:06] <Joetheodd> mart: bchunk does it. =)
[12:06] <jeremybk> ok
[12:07] <hftz_> hi, i have a radeon x300se, what would be the best way to get it supported in dapper?
[12:07] <jeremybk> I have no clue what im doing so....
[12:07] <gnomefreak> sesstreets: its on the cd but not installed by default
[12:07] <mart> sesstreets: because  most people shouldn't need it.
[12:07] <sesstreets> wow if anybody has tlc I suggest you turn it on
[12:07] <scarn> mart i actually looked at that during install. a little advanced for me heh
[12:07] <sesstreets> OMG THIS LADY PUT WORMS IN HER ARM!
[12:07] <sesstreets> OMG UGHHH
[12:08] <gnomefreak> sesstreets: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:08] <Madpilot> sesstreets, no need for ALL CAPS - and that sounds like #ubuntu-offtopic material
[12:08] <noisy_1> how's it goin patrick?
[12:08] <sesstreets> ok its just whoa...
[12:08] <phish_> how do i install drivers properly?
[12:08] <mart> sesstreets: please... take it elsewhere. :(
[12:08] <gnomefreak> phish_: what drivers?
[12:08] <sesstreets> kay
[12:08] <phish_> geforce
[12:08] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell phish_ about nvidia
[12:09] <jmoncayo> why aim disconnects everytime in gaim???
[12:09] <Eppu> falcon3: You should be abile to export both /export/data and the actual /export parent directory. This works as long as they are on different filesystems.
[12:09] <Madpilot> phish_, gforce what?
[12:09] <ags06> anyonw knows when 6.04 is going to be released
[12:09] <gnomefreak> phish_: read your pm please
[12:09] <Madpilot> ags06, June 1st
[12:09] <phish_> madpilot: geforce 5200 fx
[12:09] <mart> making it 6.06.
[12:09] <gnomefreak> ageits 6.06
[12:09] <gnomefreak> phish_: hey thats mine ;)
[12:09] <ags06> Madpilot: thanks
[12:09] <gnomefreak> phish_: breezy?
[12:09] <phish_> dappy
[12:09] <phish_> or whatever the new one is
[12:09] <gnomefreak> phish_: come to #ubuntu+1 please
[12:09] <ags06> anyone has a dell inspiron 8600
[12:10] <jmoncayo> somebody knows why aim gets disconnected evrytime in gaim???
[12:10] <LoMonteiro> gnomefreak, please, the version gnome  GNOME2.12.1 2.12.1. it's old version ?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> LoMonteiro: no its the release that breezy has
[12:10] <LoMonteiro> gnomefreak, thanks.
[12:11] <jeremybk> thanks gnomefreak
[12:11] <jeremybk> that works like charm
[12:11] <hftz_> x300se, anyone have any experience with it?
[12:12] <jeremybk> Ill eventually figure out all this linux stuff but Im glad im not sure XP anymore.
[12:12] <jeremybk> using*
[12:13] <Eppu> falcon3: Also, you might wish to try "nohide" option in the /etc/exports
[12:13] <falcon3> what does it do ?
[12:13] <Nomad411> !mp3
[12:13] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:13] <noisy_1> mp3 is restricted?
[12:13] <graft> mp3 is a non-free format
[12:14] <graft> just the patent isn't enforced
[12:14] <noisy_1> ah
[12:14] <noisy_1> good ^^
[12:14] <mart> er, I think they do enforce the patent against companies.
[12:14] <graft> or bad,depending how you look at it
[12:14] <falcon3> Eppu: you know a programm to check my network usage ?
[12:14] <graft> not for decoders... just for encoders
[12:14] <noisy_1> of course
[12:14] <Eppu> falcon3: you mean like tcpdump or ethereal?
[12:14] <mart> graft: ah, yeah... sounds familiar
[12:14] <jenda> Anyone use eterm?
[12:14] <noisy_1> That's why ogg wins
[12:14] <jenda> I'd like to know what fonts it supports
[12:14] <NeverDream> only newbs use eterm
[12:14] <graft> falcon3: iptraf
[12:14] <NeverDream> :p
[12:14] <noisy_1> of FLAV
[12:14] <searunner> graft, the kernel that comes with the edubuntu386 iso.  as a reminder im looking for which krenel pacakage to download.
[12:15] <noisy_1> FLAC*
[12:15] <falcon3> Eppu: see how much kbps is running through my network/pc
[12:15] <graft> searunner: type uname -r in the shell and let usknow what it says
[12:15] <jenda> NeverDream: thanks...
[12:15] <Eppu> falcon3: well that iptraf is probably better for statistics
[12:15] <searunner> its not running
[12:15] <noisy_1> cmd to show net activity?
[12:15] <NeverDream> jenda: lol just playin'
[12:15] <falcon3> graft and Eppu: Thanks
[12:15] <graft> searunner: um. can you run it?
[12:15] <jenda> Alright... now about the fonts...
[12:16] <blazemonger> a friend of mine used to hate linux until i showed him Ubuntu
[12:16] <blazemonger> hehe
[12:16] <noisy_1> lol
[12:16] <searunner> oinly by shutting down this box, rebooting , waiting for hte load and x-crash and then type one comand and reboot again and then come back here and tell ya what that is
[12:16] <graft> searunner: wait... i thought you said the box had no network card?
[12:17] <searunner> it sthe kernel that comes with the install iso
[12:17] <searunner> graft IT WONT RUN ON UBUNTU
[12:17] <graft> searunner: what's the card? i'd be surprised if it wasn't supported
[12:17] <NeverDream> jenda: I think eterm supports ttf
[12:17] <noisy_1> holy caps
[12:17] <searunner> please it wont run until I update the kernel with nforce
[12:18] <jenda> NeverDream: nvm, I think I found the solution in xfontsel
[12:18] <searunner> onboard NFORCE
[12:18] <searunner> it takes nforce chipset drivers
[12:19] <falcon3> Gentoo has some nice progressbar with cp and mv -g ... does ubuntu have something like that too ?
[12:19] <Beawolfe> severe NOOB having problems trying to install programs..............any and all help is appreciated!
[12:19] <kalk> hi, how can i install my video card in ubuntu 5.10 ? its a geforce 6600GT...
[12:19] <noisy_1> debian sux that way
[12:19] <kalk> i check into device manager and see its there as unknown device
[12:19] <searunner> nforce 430/410 chipset. i know it should work at least for the network card but it doesnt
[12:19] <noisy_1> default anyway
[12:19] <graft> searunner: ah. so okay, i get it now. you want to enable your onboard nforce network card in ubuntu, and you need to build the driver for it. cool. thanks for making that clear so long ago
[12:20] <noisy_1> hehe graft
[12:20] <Xenguy> Seveas: Some feedback on freenx (using your breezy packages, and wiki instructions):  My setup works fine with a linux client, but fails with latest windows client (from nomachine.com).  Errors are pasted here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12805   Questions on my mind (after much fruitless googling):  Should I try an earlier windows client version? (if yes, is there a cache of earlier client EXE's?); should I try VNC via the windows client instead?  An
[12:20] <searunner> I also need to download the gcc patch so that I can install the nforce drivers on this system
[12:21] <mart> gcc patch?  gawd!
[12:21] <searunner> graft, I thought when I entered that line 4 times it may have been clear
[12:21] <Trunkz> More problems.. x.x
[12:21] <Trunkz> This time its with the combo drive
[12:21] <Trunkz> Dont think its been recognised by Linux properly o.O
[12:21] <searunner> mart, yeah but the nvidia install instructions say it is required
[12:22] <searunner> if the network card worked my life would certainly be easier
[12:22] <Xenguy> Seveas: oh, one more question: do I need to do a 'nxserver --adduser' on the server side at all?
[12:23] <beasty> mm
[12:23] <Trunkz> lets give the waptop another try
[12:23] <searunner> graft, so now that you're clear on my problem and objective perhaps you have some info to make that happen
[12:23] <Seveas> Xenguy, no you should *NOT* do that
[12:23] <beasty> anyone knows why mplayer and other video crap doesn't stretch my movie ?
[12:23] <hachre> How do I reconfigure my networking settings using the console - is there something like dpkg-configure networking?
[12:24] <anstei> hachre: ifconfig, and iwconfig for wireless setup
[12:24] <Trunkz> any kernel people here?
[12:24] <hachre> anstei: I want something that's editing /etc/network/interfaces for me :)
[12:24] <Trunkz> I need to dl the kernel-headers for the 2.6.16 kernel :o
[12:25] <searunner> hey does the DVD iso include the kernel sources??
[12:25] <jmoncayo> somebody knows why aim gets disconnected evrytime in gaim???
[12:25] <graft> searunner: if you don't know what kernel you're running, this is going to be really difficult to tell you waht to download
[12:26] <scarn> somegeek, is there anyway to make ubuntu 64bit boot itself on its own HD, without writing the the mbr of winxp (on its own HD aswell)?
[12:26] <noisy_1> uname -a
[12:26] <graft> searunner: but the standard breezy kernel is here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/devel/linux-source-2.6.12
[12:26] <scarn> ehh no idea how somegeek got in there..
[12:26] <kalk> anyone can point me where to look to install my geforce 6600gt on ubuntu?
[12:26] <searunner> graft so is that going to allow me to recompile the kernel to addd the nforce drivers?
[12:26] <Trunkz> I still cant seem to be able to mount the dvd properly o.O
[12:26] <Trunkz> Any help with this?
[12:26] <graft> searunner: and that ought to be all you need, yes
[12:27] <Psilocybe> Alguem fala portugus aqui?
[12:27] <Psilocybe> xD
[12:27] <graft> searunner: assuming you're using nvidia's tarball from their website
[12:27] <_jason> !pt
[12:27] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[12:27] <noisy_1> you have to recompile the kernel to install nforce?
[12:27] <noisy_1> ouch
[12:27] <graft> noisy_1: nah, you just (might) need source for it to compile itself
[12:27] <Psilocybe> _jason ohh! great! thanks bro
[12:27] <noisy_1> k brb
[12:28] <hachre> How do I reconfigure my networking settings using the console - is there something like dpkg-configure networking that's editing /etc/network/interfaces for me?
[12:28] <graft> hachre: nope, you muck around with that all by yourself
[12:28] <Trunkz> graft, got a question
[12:28] <hachre> graft: allright thanks
[12:28] <Trunkz> how do I find out how to mount a new drive?
[12:28] <nickrud> !mount
[12:28] <ubotu> methinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[12:28] <Trunkz> Basically.. I replaced the cd drive in the laptop with a combo drive
[12:29] <Trunkz> I know how to mount
[12:29] <hachre> graft: you sure there isnt a way to bring up that question about my interfaces from setup again?
[12:29] <Trunkz> I just dont know the /dev/*wtv* one
[12:29] <nickrud> Trunkz, a new, unformatted drive you mean?
[12:29] <{o_O}> testing
[12:29] <graft> hachre: um. there might be, dunno how you did it last time. but it's not that intimidating a file, really, pretty simple
[12:29] <nickrud> Trunkz, and not a usb external :)
[12:30] <hachre> graft: well what i dont like about it is that i need to google for all the stuff i have to write in there
[12:30] <hachre> graft: its not in there already (commented out or something)
[12:30] <Trunkz> nickrud, no.. this is a combo drive
[12:30] <graft> hachre: wha' trying to achieve?
[12:30] <zielony> How can I manage my Nokia phone connected to PC via COM cable ? (DKU-5 i think)
[12:30] <Trunkz> that I put into the laptop (i replaced the old cd drive)
[12:30] <Trunkz> its /devhdc
[12:30] <hachre> graft: i wanna set my networking card to static values not dhcp
[12:30] <Trunkz> and its being mounted to /mnt/cdrom0 accordin to fstab
[12:30] <packy> hello sweet bellydancers :-) I've got a quick popquiz which neither the wiki nor anything else on the web has helped me figure out. in gnome-keyboard-shortcuts, I have a lot of 0xdf and shit, and a few hours back, my computer restarted, the /var/log/acpid says it got a keyboard call and restarted, but how do i dechiper the 0xdf to a keyboard combination?
[12:31] <Riddell> packy: xev
[12:31] <graft> hachre: ah... easy.
[12:31] <hachre> :)
[12:31] <nickrud> Trunkz, then you need to change the /etc/fstab for /dev/hdc , since it's changed to a hard drive. You planning on plugging the cd back in?
[12:31] <graft> hachre: instead of 'inet dhcp' you just say 'inet static'
[12:31] <Trunkz> ...
[12:31] <Trunkz> nickrud
[12:32] <Trunkz> I didnt touch the hard drive
[12:32] <graft> then add a line after that saying '    address <whatever.whatever.blah.blahdiblah>'
[12:32] <Trunkz> I had a cd drive in a laptop
[12:32] <Trunkz> I replaced this cd drive
[12:32] <zielony> How can I manage my Nokia phone connected to PC via COM cable ? (DKU-5 i think)
[12:32] <searunner> which version of gcc is breezy running from the iso, before any updates have been done?
[12:32] <Trunkz> with a combo drive (reads dvds, writes cds)
[12:32] <Trunkz> Now, for example.. I put in a DVD
[12:32] <Trunkz> goto totem, select play dvd
[12:32] <Trunkz> and it says.. failed to find mountpoint for /dev/hdc
[12:32] <nickrud> Trunkz, eh, I came in on 'mount a new drive', my assumption was a new hard drive, my bad
[12:33] <Trunkz> :P
[12:33] <hachre> graft: yep? :)
[12:33] <graft> Trunkz: why does i tneed to mount anything to play a dvd? hrm
[12:33] <Trunkz> dunno o.O
[12:33] <packy> Riddell, alright, but how do I... uhm, you know... get to the 0xdf, I should just press lots of keys or?
[12:33] <Trunkz> Just wanna play a DVD xD
[12:33] <hachre> graft: i "man"ed it
[12:33] <hachre> graft: ty ;)
[12:35] <graft> Trunkz: um. in dmesg does it say hdc is your combo drive?
[12:35] <HymnToLife> what's the command to extract a bzipped tar ? I never remember it
[12:35] <Trunkz> i did lstw or wtv its called
[12:35] <graft> tar -xjf
[12:35] <HymnToLife> thanks
[12:36] <Trunkz> Ooh.. I got an error in dmesg
[12:36] <Trunkz> device-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed
[12:36] <graft> hm. that's never happened to me.
[12:36] <Trunkz> device-mapper: error adding target to table
[12:36] <graft> an error in dmesg... weird
[12:36] <Trunkz> error's repeated a few times
[12:37] <searunner> well i'll reboot now and give this one more shot
[12:37] <juan> hola
[12:37] <searunner> graft - thanks
[12:37] <nickrud> Trunkz, was this a live swap, or done while the machine is off? (general curiosity)
[12:37] <Trunkz> was off lol :p
[12:37] <Trunkz> I'm not trying to fry myself here xD
[12:37] <Trunkz> It had the CD drive
[12:37] <Trunkz> switched it off normally
[12:38] <Trunkz> took the cd drive
[12:38] <Trunkz> put in the combo drive
[12:38] <Trunkz> and its fine..
[12:38] <Trunkz> now linux is being annoying
[12:38] <phace> Trunkz: what is the issue ?
[12:39] <Trunkz> errr
[12:39] <graft> Trunkz: is there no a line about hdc in dmesg?
[12:39] <Trunkz> there's a line up there somewhere
[12:39] <venox> hey, how can I install xfce4.4 to ubuntu breezy?
[12:40] <sybariten> kingspawn: put the HD back into the mac, it boots up, i can reach it over SSH, Samba .... files play normally.
[12:40] <Trunkz> the line's there ya
[12:40] <Trunkz> hdc: Toshiba CD-RW/DVD-ROM bla bla bla
[12:40] <phish_> how can i get my usb microphone to work as my input device and my soundcard to work as my playback device?
[12:40] <NullVector> could someone direct me to a page that will help me get streaming video working in firefox? I know I saw it somewhere once before
[12:41] <Trunkz> install the mozilla-mplayer plugin
[12:41] <blindx> how can I delete files recursively via terminal? e.g. I want to delete all .jpg files in /media/ipod, as well as /media/ipod/folder, as well as /media/ipod/folder/folder, etc etc.
[12:41] <Trunkz> pop over to easylinux.info/ubuntu
[12:41] <Trunkz> i'll be there NullVector :)
[12:41] <venox> blindx: rm -r
[12:41] <Trunkz> blindx, try rm -f -r
[12:41] <NickGarvey> rm -are
[12:41] <NickGarvey> !!!
[12:41] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[12:41] <blindx> lmfao, which one is it? :P
[12:42] <NickGarvey> aaaahhh no
[12:42] <Trunkz> blindx, just do rm -f -r :)
[12:42] <NickGarvey> autocorrect
[12:42] <Trunkz> -f forces it :p
[12:42] <NickGarvey> "how are u"
[12:42] <NickGarvey> how are you
[12:42] <Trunkz> so it dont complain xD..
[12:42] <NickGarvey> see? changes it
[12:42] <NullVector> mozila m-player plugin, can I find this in the repos?
[12:42] <Trunkz> anyway, i'll get off.. I'll solve this nitty gritty problem of mine
[12:42] <graft> phish_: using ALSA?
[12:42] <Trunkz> Nullvector, http://www.easylinux.info/Ubuntu
[12:42] <Trunkz> look there :)
[12:42] <graft> Trunkz: i'd try mplayer!
[12:42] <graft> that'll probably do it right
[12:43] <vladuz976> gnome used to have that thing when i exit it asks me if i want to save my current session setup. it doesn`t do that anymore, do i need to add stuff manually now?
[12:43] <phish_> graft: whats ALSA?
[12:43] <ompaul> NullVector, yes
[12:43] <graft> phish_: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
[12:43] <HymnToLife> !alsa
[12:43] <ubotu> hmm... alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[12:43] <ompaul> !tell NullVector about mplayer
[12:43] <graft> phish_: don't believe them about the 'advanced' part
[12:43] <NullVector> trunkz: 404 not found at that link
[12:43] <blindx> rm: cannot remove `*.jpg': No such file or directory -- am I stuck in DOS mode? what's the wildcard for a the terminal?
[12:43] <NullVector> ompaul: ty
[12:44] <phish_> graft: how do i use it (linux newb, just installed last night :D)
[12:44] <sybariten> i installed ububtu server using the swedish locale, which appearently makes all of my OS swedish ... which sucks badly. Can i revert to english somehow ?
[12:44] <graft> phish_: are you running breezy?
[12:44] <phish_> dapper
[12:44] <jenda> What's teh command (using gconftool?) to change the desktop background?
[12:44] <graft> phish_: ah. um. try 'sudo modprobe snd-pcm'
[12:44] <HymnToLife> I've just installed an AMD64 Breey, what kernel will run best (I have an Athlon 64 cpu) ?
[12:45] <ompaul> phish_, if you join the channel #ubuntu+1 they all talk of dapper there  - its the home of dapper
[12:45] <sybariten> in other words, i chose "swedish" at one of the first requesters where it asked what language i wanted .... i tried english once, but then it asked where i was in the world and gave me the choices of some englishspeaking countries and it felt strange chosing any of those
[12:45] <graft> i thought this was the home of dapper now?
[12:45] <axl000> hi
[12:45] <axl000> anyone can help me to install alsa
[12:45] <blindx> rm: cannot remove `*.jpg': No such file or directory -- Does linux have a different wildcard than DOS? :\
[12:46] <HymnToLife> sybariten> at the bootom of the "country" list, there's"Others"...
[12:46] <graft> blindx: no, but it is case sensitive unlike DOS
[12:46] <sesstreets> or DoS as i call it
[12:46] <blindx> ahhhh i see.
[12:46] <blindx> DoS is something else :P
[12:46] <hyphenated> sybariten: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locale ?
[12:46] <regeya> the home of dapper?
[12:46] <regeya> Chez Dapper?
[12:46] <sybariten> HymnToLife: yes there is, but still .... those choices probably determine ftp servers and such
[12:47] <vladuz976> how do i add programs to gnome session
[12:47] <sybariten> hyphenated: ok i'lll try that, thanks
[12:47] <graft> dunno. Seveas - is this chez dapper, ou #ubuntu+1?
[12:47] <Seveas> !dapper
[12:47] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[12:47] <blindx> Okay, rm -r did not work....
[12:47] <graft> fair enough
[12:49] <blindx> Okay, I want to remove all .jpg files from /media/ipod and all child folders, doing "rm -r /media/ipod/*.jpg" does not work.. anyone know why?
[12:49] <MuFallen> hi
[12:49] <jenda> What's teh command to change the desktop background?
[12:49] <hyphenated> blindx: because you only told it to look for *.jpg in /media/ipod
[12:49] <FliesLikeALap> jenda  on what?
[12:49] <|lostbyte|> blindx: rm -rfv *.jpg
[12:49] <blindx> but i thought -r was 'recursive'
[12:49] <jenda> FliesLikeABrick: Gnome
[12:50] <|lostbyte|> blindx: go into the folder first.
[12:50] <jenda> blindx: it is...
[12:50] <FliesLikeALap> jenda  why not just use the gnome control panel to do it?
[12:50] <hyphenated> blindx: it is. but it's only told to look for *.jpg in /media/ipod ;-)
[12:50] <jenda> FliesLikeABrick: I need the command for a script
[12:50] <blindx> Well, I've also run that command in /media/ipod "rm -r *.jpg"
[12:50] <blindx> and it tells me "rm: cannot remove `/media/ipod/*.jpg': No such file or directory
[12:50] <blindx> "
[12:50] <NullVector> do I want mplayer-nogui?
[12:50] <graft> blindx: do rm -rf
[12:51] <nickrud> jenda, gconftool-2 is the command line tool for manipulating the gconf database
[12:51] <jenda> graft: careful with that...
[12:51] <SinnerG> grmbl - tried to install dualboot-ubuntu...
[12:51] <SinnerG> fuxored my system ;p
[12:51] <graft> blindx: oh. ah. you want to do something like rm `find . -name "*.jpg"`
[12:51] <szb> does anyone know of a gui interface firewall that allows multiple nics?
[12:51] <hyphenated> blindx: it's doing precisely what it's told to do. since *.jpg doesn't match any directory names, it's not going into directories
[12:51] <jenda> nickrud: Alright, but what would the syntax be to work the background?
[12:51] <SinnerG> It keeps getting stuck OR @ apt or when trying to install lilo or grub (always fails)
[12:51] <blindx> how do i tell it to go into directories?
[12:51] <SinnerG> anyone got any clue?
[12:52] <graft> SinnerG: updated?
[12:52] <fensta> !tell fensta gnome
[12:52] <fensta> anyone know how to use that?
[12:52] <blindx> brb, no one answer my question till i get back please :P
[12:52] <hyphenated> blindx: you don't want to use rm directly like that to remove just JPG files. you want to use something like what graft said, once you understand what it does
[12:52] <redguy> !tell fensta about gnome
[12:52] <SinnerG> updated? I just tried to install dapper (the install just fails when it comes to the hd)
[12:52] <jenda> nickrud: nvm I got it :)
[12:52] <graft> ubotu tell fensta about gnome
[12:52] <szb> anyone??
[12:52] <SinnerG> and an old 5.04
[12:53] <fensta> ok kewl.. wish it told me about repositories for gnome
[12:53] <graft> stupid bot... yelling at me for trying to help
[12:53] <nickrud> jenda, good ;-)
[12:53] <SinnerG> the last one goes wrong @ lilo install
[12:53] <graft> SinnerG: what's the error?
[12:53] <tatters> is breezy still latest ubuntu?
[12:53] <regeya> !dapper
[12:53] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[12:53] <graft> yeah, dapper is beta
[12:54] <SinnerG> I think lilo gives an error code 1 not sure tho..
[12:54] <SinnerG> (not anything detailed..)
[12:54] <tatters> I though dapper was gunna be released in april?
[12:54] <graft> they pushed it back
[12:54] <FliesLikeALap> no tatters  there was a news release changing it to 6.06
[12:54] <fensta> grrr...kubuntu keeps loading when I only want gnome
[12:55] <SinnerG> well I'm gonna try agian ;p
[12:55] <FliesLikeALap> fensta  do you have a login screen at boot time? you can change the session type there
[12:55] <SinnerG> bbl
[12:55] <arun> is it possible set environment variables in ubuntu as soon as login.. not just for bash..
[12:55] <szb> hey guys!! please help me with my firewall problem!!
[12:55] <sybariten> hyphenated: hmmm....? the package "locale" isnt installed ?
[12:55] <szb> i need a good firewall that has a gui interface
[12:55] <_jason> arun: ~/.gnomerc
[12:55] <fensta> well I logged out... chose gnome and logged back in but it still shows the kubuntu login screen
[12:55] <Madpilot> szb, install firestarter
[12:55] <DewDude> fensta: because it's loading kdm rather than gdm
[12:55] <zukalk> hey, i'm monitoring a file using tail (here, /var/log/apache2/access.log). is there any way to make the console, e.g., beep when tail's output changes, i.e., when the file changes?
[12:55] <FliesLikeALap> fensta  that is a matter of telling it to use gdm instead of kdm, I'm not sure exactly how to do that
[12:56] <FliesLikeALap> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg maybe
[12:56] <fensta> hrmmmmz
[12:56] <FliesLikeALap> or dpkg-reconfigure gdm ?
[12:56] <graft> probably just installing gdm will do it
[12:56] <graft> or reconfiguring gdm
[12:56] <hyphenated> sybariten: 'locales', my bad
[12:56] <_jason> FliesLikeALap: last thing you said :)
[12:56] <searunner> ok so now that ive got a bunch of files and a few .debs in some/dir/with/files/  can I tell spt-get to use the deb on said path or must this sources list have some special entry for some/dir/with/files/
[12:56] <DewDude> system -> admin -> logn window
[12:56] <FliesLikeALap> graft  he has gdm installed it sounds like
[12:56] <DewDude> at least on dapper that's where it is
[12:56] <Rizo> i cant get my kde to load in ubuntu! jk, can anyone give me advice on why my ubuntu live wont boot?
[12:56] <szb> madpilot i did but need a feer wall that allows multiple nics ie two seperate internal networks and one nic connects to my internet connection
[12:56] <_jason> arun: just create it
[12:56] <noisy_1> bios boot order?
[12:56] <graft> FliesLikeALap: enh. on debian gdm and kdm used to conflict
[12:57] <sybariten> hyphenated: uhmmm.... i get a long list of char codings
[12:57] <DewDude> they don't with ubuntu
[12:57] <FliesLikeALap> well graft  on ubuntu thats definately not the case since many people have both installed
[12:57] <FliesLikeALap> including me on many computers
[12:57] <graft> yeah, parently not..
[12:57] <Madpilot> szb, hmm - firestarter might be able to do that - I've got no idea, though
[12:57] <searunner> i would rather specify the package by path and file name at the command line, is that possible?
[12:57] <noisy_1> Rizo: BIOS boot order?
[12:57] <graft> but, just sayin'... not an unreasonable assumption...
[12:57] <Rizo> no it boots up to graphics, then fails after checking battery status
[12:57] <graft> grumble grumble
[12:57] <fensta> grrr.. when  I try to go to make that adjustment DewDude it does nothing :\
[12:57] <fensta> the little wheel shows and thats it
[12:57] <noisy_1> laptop?
[12:57] <DewDude> are you sure it does nothing?
[12:58] <DewDude> you obviously won't see an effect till you reboot
[12:58] <fensta> I dont know.. no windows popup or anything
[12:58] <DewDude> hrmm
[12:58] <DewDude> well
[12:58] <facugaich> searunner, you can use dpkg for thta
[12:58] <fensta> no I mean when I choose admin, login screen
[12:58] <fensta> that does nothing
[12:58] <arun> jason, is it okay if i add Path and ld_libray_path there.
[12:58] <noisy_1> Rizo: laptop?
[12:58] <szb> i tried but it only allows for one internal nic
[12:58] <DewDude> umm
[12:58] <DewDude> ok
[12:58] <_jason> arun: you can set env vars there, same as you would in .bashrc
[12:58] <DewDude> then you have to modify your startup scripts
[12:58] <DewDude> good luck with that
[12:58] <fensta> well I would think it would do something
[12:58] <Rizo> noisy_!: no desktop, nvidia gfx amd xp chip
[12:58] <arun> _jason, ok.. thanks..
[12:59] <fensta> iseems like it is acting funny
[12:59] <noisy_1> Check the cd for scratches etc ?
[12:59] <Rizo> brand new cd, no scratches, seems to be a common issue on post boards but only when people have it installed and update vid drivers
[01:00] <fensta> all the other admin stuff works
[01:00] <tr0nic> i'm trying to install a standard driver and the configure script is asking for flex,lex and make why is not even make part of the standard install (and what are flex and lex) anyone?
[01:00] <sybariten> hyphenated: OK, after that i got a questoin on what locale should be the system environment, as a language for the whole system. is en_gb.utf-8 a good choice ?
[01:00] <fensta> maybe there is something not installed DewDude?
[01:00] <sybariten> or do i want en_in.utf-8
[01:00] <sybariten> ?
[01:00] <BlueEalge> !info flex
[01:00] <noisy_1> Why are you booting livecd?
[01:00] <ubotu> flex: (A fast lexical analyzer generator.), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.5.31-31ubuntu0.5.10.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 250 kB, Installed size: 744 kB
[01:00] <BlueEalge> !info lex
[01:00] <tr0nic> i thought make would be there
[01:00] <Rizo> to test if ubuntu will run alright on this box
[01:00] <tr0nic> ty blueagle
[01:00] <Rizo> relatively new
[01:00] <patrick_king> hello, i have looked on google about enabling swat on ubuntu, but i cant seem to get it running. and #samba doesnt help really
[01:00] <Rizo> to linux
[01:00] <searunner> ok so I take it one can not specify the /full/local/path/with/debs/whatever.deb  to be used with apt-get, what syntax is used for /etc/apt/sources.list so apt-get can find those files in /full/path/with/fresh/deb-packages/
[01:01] <hyphenated> sybariten: either way, it should be english :-)
[01:01] <sybariten> hyphenated: ok
[01:01] <noisy_1> Rizo, the only way to really test out an os is to install it
[01:01] <tr0nic> its not on the install disk bluealge
[01:01] <Luke> does anyone know how to get sudo apps to have a different theme than the default one if I switch from human?
[01:01] <noisy_1> live cds can lack drivers that are readily available
[01:01] <sybariten> hyphenated: just curious if utf-8 is something you wanna stay away from ... actually the en_in didnt have utf-8 in its name
[01:01] <tr0nic> even make noisy?
[01:01] <tr0nic> i'm not on a live cd i'm on an install cd
[01:01] <hyphenated> sybariten: no, it's a good thing to have there
[01:01] <facugaich> searunner, you can use dpkg
[01:01] <noisy_1> not you tron
[01:02] <tr0nic> anyway hi noisy
[01:02] <facugaich> searunner: sudo dpkh -i /the/dir/*.deb, I think, not sure
[01:02] <Rizo> i cant get live to boot at all though, do other people have this issue a lot? I thought live would be generally stable for any pc
[01:02] <facugaich> dpkg*
[01:02] <searunner> facugaich ok but what then would I do with dpkg  ?    dpkg -install /full/path/to/deb-pack/whatever.deb   ??
[01:03] <noisy_1> I didn't even bother with livecd, went for the install
[01:03] <sethk> Rizo, I've only seen it have that problem once, and it was solved by telling the PC to not use DMA for ide drives
[01:03] <searunner> ah k
[01:03] <noisy_1> installed a server, then decided to go for a simple Sarge Debian install
[01:03] <blindx> rm `find . -name "*.jpg"` -- now what that does, is runs the "find" command to find all .jpg files in the current and child directories, then removes them using rm, right?
[01:03] <noisy_1> I'll install the 64 ubuntu on my good comp within the next couple weeks
[01:03] <facugaich> searunners, it installs the deb package
[01:03] <searunner> that'll due for now i can get the rest with man dpkg when im in ubuntu again.
[01:03] <Jwarrier> type /join hks
[01:03] <Jwarrier> #hks :P
[01:04] <DewDude> blindx, that doesn't seem right
[01:04] <Talldave2002> can amyome help i am trying to use old PC as a router. it connects to the net ok ond it sees the network, from the messages on its screen, but i cannot connect to the net from my other boxes
[01:04] <graft> blindx: yep
[01:04] <blindx> no?
[01:04] <DewDude> oh
[01:04] <DewDude> nvm then
[01:04] <Rizo> ill try nodma then try an install
[01:04] <Jwarrier> type /join #hks
[01:04] <blindx> DewDude, what seems wrong with it?
[01:04] <blindx> lol
[01:04] <Rizo> thx dudes
[01:04] <hachre_> blindx: it is gonna look for all jpgs in the directory you start the command in and subdirs and deletes them
[01:04] <hachre_> blindx: IF it works that is
[01:04] <hachre_> :P
[01:04] <sophie^> i'm having trouble with wine... after apt-get install wine xwine, i do not know what's the next step... :( help needed...
[01:05] <blindx> well i just ran 'find . -name "*.jpg"' and that listed em all
[01:05] <blindx> so now lets rm that
[01:05] <hachre_> blindx: :)
[01:05] <blindx> hah. it didn't work
[01:05] <hachre_> i knew it
[01:05] <hachre_> :P
[01:05] <graft> backticks, dude
[01:05] <graft> not quotes
[01:05] <Jwarrier> type /join #hks
[01:05] <graft> `, not '
[01:05] <blindx> blind@ubuntu:/media/ipod$ rm `find . -name "*.jpg"`
[01:05] <blindx> rm: invalid option -- C
[01:06] <hachre_> yeah
[01:06] <hachre_> blindx: do rm < find...
[01:06] <hachre_> or find ... | rm
[01:06] <hachre_> blindx: but im not good at that
[01:06] <hachre_> blindx:  :)
[01:06] <sophie^> can anyone help me pleas
[01:06] <graft> hrm... nah he has issues with spaces in filenames i'm guessing.
[01:06] <Jwarrier> type /join #comeforagoodtime
[01:06] <tr0nic> where do i get flex from it's not on the cd
[01:06] <blindx> yeah, there's definitely spaces.
[01:06] <tr0nic> does it include lex?
[01:06] <blindx> how would i fix that :\
[01:07] <tr0nic> i suppose it must
[01:07] <hachre_> blindx: try ' instead of "
[01:07] <hachre_> blindx: but im not good at that :D
[01:07] <graft> um. fire up konqueror or something and search your disk?
[01:07] <_jason> blindx: use find -name foo -print0 | xargs -0 rm
[01:07] <hachre_> now jason is someone who knows his stuff
[01:07] <hachre_> :P
[01:08] <blindx> it worked. thanks _jason
[01:08] <hachre_> :)
[01:08] <_jason> blindx: np
[01:08] <hachre_> \o/
[01:08] <hachre_> yay
[01:08] <arun> _jason, i created a ~/.gnomerc file.. and logged out and logged in again.. but the env vars diddnt get craeted.. here is my .gnomerc file.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12808.. can u see if i am doing anything wrong
[01:09] <_jason> arun: add 'export ' to the beginning of each line
[01:09] <graft> ah, neat shell trick... that'll be useful
[01:09] <harisund> Does anybody know if we can boot the Ubuntu LiveCD into Command Line mode instead of the regular GUI?
[01:09] <arun> _jason, okay.
[01:10] <Jwarrier> type /join #comeforagoodtime
[01:10] <theCore> how do I setup my machine to have 3d acceleration on?
[01:10] <NullVector> trying to install mplayer using the following instructions - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061 - having trouble with the mplayer download. getting error 404
[01:10] <graft> theCore: boy is that a loaded question
[01:11] <_jason> NullVector: mplayer is in the multiverse repository
[01:11] <pmafia> hey guys!
[01:11] <harisund> I have these 2 questions basically. Booting Ubuntu LiveCD into command line mode. Why doesn't Ubuntu have a disk defragmenter utility?
[01:11] <harisund> hey pmafia. What's up?
[01:11] <theCore> graft: that why I asked it :)
[01:11] <pmafia> i have a question about ubuntu
[01:11] <graft> theCore: well what's your video card?
[01:11] <Madpilot> harisund, because ext3 doesn't need defraging like MS formats do
[01:11] <noisy_1> gg @ ms
[01:11] <jadacyrus> is it true XGL/Compiz breaks twinview?
[01:11] <Luke> harisund: wht filesystem do you want to defrag?
[01:11] <falcon3> harisund: ext doesnt get fragmented
[01:11] <graft> !ask
[01:11] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[01:11] <pmafia> i really dislike windows, and i wanna move to ubunutu, but i have a problem
[01:11] <Jowi> theCore: if your video card and driver support it, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and when you get the question about adding a DRI section, press "yes"
[01:11] <scarn> i installed the nvidia driver ubuntu 64bit. but i have only 3 choices for resolution. is there a way to set my monitor?
[01:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell scarn about fixres
[01:12] <harisund> falcon3, Luke and Madpilot: ext3 doesn't get fragmented. Does it mean it is smart enough to automatically allocate spaces correctly?
[01:12] <scarn> yes yes fixres!!
[01:12] <Madpilot> harisund, AFAIK, yes
[01:12] <theCore> graft: CyberBlade/XP
[01:12] <scarn> hah
[01:12] <pmafia> i have a marvell yukon 88e8001, and it doesnt look like its supported on ubuntu, can somebody help me get this thing going so i can install ubumntu?
[01:12] <falcon3> harisund: something like that
[01:12] <pmafia> its a eithernet 1gig card
[01:12] <theCore> Jowi: that's it?
[01:12] <Luke> harisund: yea you dont need to defrag ext3
[01:12] <jadacyrus> is is true XGL will break Twinview?
[01:12] <NullVector> _jason: I tried using sudo apt-get install mplayer
[01:12] <eneried> hello, anybody
[01:12] <Madpilot> pmafia, wired or wireless card?
[01:12] <Jowi> theCore: but that assumes that you have the correct video driver installed already. if you have an ati or nvidia card type !ati or !nvidia in this channel
[01:13] <_jason> ubotu: tell NullVector about mplayer
[01:13] <harisund> Madpilot and pmafia: ok that's good to hear. Now how do I boot Ubuntu LiveCD into command line only mode?
[01:13] <eneried> i need to know the hardware of a linux machine using command line or ssh, cuold you help me?
[01:13] <NullVector> _jason: thats where I got the forum install directions from
[01:13] <pmafia> wired
[01:13] <_jason> NullVector: follow the wiki
[01:13] <Madpilot> eneried, "sudo lshw"
[01:13] <hachre> eneried: cat /proc/cpuinfo, cat /proc/meminfo, lspci
[01:13] <NullVector> tried, didn't help, seems I can't find it in the repository
[01:13] <hachre> Madpilot: omfg, i didnt know that
[01:13] <hachre> lol
[01:14] <theCore> Jowi: well, I don't have a ATI or Nvidia video card, so how do I tell that I have the right driver?
[01:14] <pmafia> can you guys help me with my lan card, i really like ubuntu i wanna start using it instead of windows, but i need my internet ;(
[01:14] <_jason> NullVector: have you enabled breezy multiverse?
[01:14] <Madpilot> pmafia, I've got a Yukon gigabit port, it runs fine in Ubuntu...
[01:14] <eneried> hachre, does it work if the machine has more than one processor??
[01:14] <NullVector> _jason: yes, as far as I can tell I have
[01:14] <graft> pmafia: it's supported in the linux kernel
[01:14] <noisy_1> model name      : AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor
[01:14] <noisy_1> GG
[01:14] <_jason> NullVector: can you pastebin your sources.list please?
[01:14] <theCore> Jowi: s/that I/if I/
[01:14] <hachre> eneried: yep
[01:14] <pmafia> im also using DSL, sympatico
[01:14] <eneried> thanks, hachre and Madpilot
[01:14] <harisund> If Ubuntu LiveCD can't be booted into command line mode, can someone suggest a very small rescue CD for Linux that can be booted into command line mode?
[01:14] <NullVector> _jason: sure
[01:14] <pmafia> it wont let me enable my LAN i have 2, nvidia and yukon, eth0 and eth1 i think
[01:15] <pmafia> can somebody please help me set it up
[01:15] <arun> _jason, hm.. i created the env vars.. thanks.. i am still having a trouble with running this app which i think is using ssh to my machine.. that keeps complaining abt env vars.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12809 any thoughts on the problems..
[01:15] <pmafia> there both disabled
[01:15] <graft> pmafia: pppoe?
[01:15] <pmafia> yes i think
[01:15] <amphi> harisund: the sysresccd.org iso is a nice one IMHO
[01:15] <graft> damnit
[01:15] <graft> stupid cheap ISPs
[01:15] <pmafia> i need to dail to sympatico but theres no number...
[01:15] <pmafia> just username/pass
[01:15] <Jowi> theCore: select your video card in the setup "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", answer YES for DRI  then restart X. when you've gotten that far, you can check if it is enabled by typing "glxinfo | grep rendering" if you get a Yes there you're good to go.
[01:16] <harisund> amphi: Ok I am trying that out right now. Thanks a ton .. let's see if that solves my purpose.
[01:16] <graft> yeah install pppoe and pppoeconf, pmafia
[01:16] <amphi> harisund: it's been a lifesaver for me before now
[01:16] <pmafia> how do i install that?
[01:16] <Zarephath> anyone know mysql?
[01:16] <NullVector> _jason: you just want the url's right?
[01:16] <_jason> arun: when you echo $SAGE_DIRECTORY it is set?
[01:16] <graft> off your CD?
[01:16] <pmafia> ya i have a live cd
[01:16] <_jason> NullVector: just pastebin the whole thing
[01:16] <harisund> amphi: That good,eh? ok .. neat. .
[01:16] <arun> _jason, yeah..
[01:16] <NullVector> _jason, is there and easy way to copy it without having to open each source and type it out?
[01:17] <pmafia> if i can just get on the internet with ubuntu i'll format this shitty windows immediatly
[01:17] <_jason> arun: don't know, you'll have to find someone familiar with that program
[01:17] <amphi> harisund: no X, just zsh, and lots of useful implements; it fits on a small (80mm?) cd, which is handy
[01:17] <_jason> NullVector: just 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and pastebin what is in there
[01:17] <Zarephath> pmafia: that should be pretty much a no brainer...you have wifi?
[01:17] <arun> _jason, ok.. anyways thanks a lot for you try..
[01:17] <pmafia> no i dont
[01:17] <graft> pmafia: well connecting to DSL is doable... i think pppoe should be on the live cd
[01:17] <harisund> amphi: that's awesome. But wait, no BASH?
[01:17] <_nano_> how do I remove passive mode for gnome ftp folders?
[01:17] <Jowi> theCore: maybe i misunderstood your question. can you run "glxgears" and it looks good? or are you asking to enable compiz and stuff?
[01:18] <pmafia> i think it is
[01:18] <Zarephath> pmafia: dialup? cable/dsl? should pretty much set it up for you...
[01:18] <pmafia> DSL sympatico
[01:18] <harisund> amphi: Nevertheless, zsh should be good enough I guess. Thanks. I am going to try that outnow.
[01:18] <pmafia> but it had both my network cards
[01:18] <pmafia> disabled
[01:18] <amphi> harisund: dunno, never looked, I use zsh anyway - zsh is ++bash ;)
[01:18] <pmafia> and ppoe was disabled 2
[01:18] <bobbyd> hi
[01:18] <_nano_> !ftp
[01:18] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[01:18] <jadacyrus> has anyone installed XGL with twinview?
[01:18] <pmafia> it wouldnt let me enable it eithor
[01:18] <sobersabre> hi is there a doc on how to enable skype work with alsa 1.0.10 ?
[01:18] <Thinjon100> hello, having trouble with Ubuntu 5.10 AMD64... finalyl got it installed, but after the login screen, the video comes up horribly garbled and the system appears to hang (though the mouse moves)... any ideas?
[01:18] <theCore> Jowi: glxgears doesn't looks good, and glxinfo show direct rendering: off
[01:19] <Jowi> theCore: ah, ok. then follow my instructions :)
[01:19] <Pordos> whenever i try to run certain apps, like Gizmo or gThumb, I'm asked for my keyring password for an ssh login that i have set up in nautilus.
[01:19] <Pordos> wtf
[01:19] <graft> jadacyrus: i think there's a #ubuntu-xgl
[01:19] <jadacyrus> thx
[01:19] <eneried> thanks a lot
[01:19] <Madpilot> Pordos, that's because some apps can browse remote volumes thru SSH
[01:19] <tr0nic> can i ask why the command 'make' isn't included in the ubuntu install
[01:20] <Madpilot> tr0nic, install build-essential
[01:20] <graft> tr0nic: build-essenti... fargh
[01:20] <tr0nic> is that from synaptic
[01:20] <NullVector> _jason: give me a minute to figure out hwo to install webboard so I can use pastebin
[01:20] <hachre> graft: haha too slow
[01:20] <Madpilot> tr0nic, yes
[01:20] <tr0nic> ok ty
[01:20] <tr0nic> just thought it would be there
[01:20] <pmafia> any body can help me?
[01:20] <tr0nic> ty
[01:20] <Zarephath> Or apt-get if you prefer\
[01:20] <graft> Madpilot probably has that aliased
[01:20] <_jason> NullVector: k
[01:20] <Thinjon100> I'm using a GeForce 7800GT PCI-E if that helps
[01:20] <tr0nic> not connected
[01:20] <tr0nic> ok bye
[01:20] <tr0nic> thanks
[01:20] <harisund> What does the grub option "rescue mode" do, aside from logging me in as root?
[01:20] <Madpilot> graft, nope, I'm just a fast typist
[01:20] <Zarephath> pmafia: Why do you have two nics?
[01:20] <graft> i thought i was too!
[01:20] <hachre> harisund: it starts in runlevel 1
[01:21] <_jason> graft: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[01:21] <hachre> harisund: which is single user mode
[01:21] <pmafia> it came with 2
[01:21] <amphi> harisund: boots into single-user (runlevel 1)
[01:21] <_jason> graft: 2 letters for that
[01:21] <pmafia> my board is a8n-sli delux
[01:21] <harisund> hachre: does that mean the disks are mounted at that point?
[01:21] <theCore> Jowi: DRI was enabled, what I do now?
[01:21] <hachre> harisund: i think so
[01:21] <pmafia> one is firewire or something
[01:21] <graft> _jason: haha
[01:21] <amphi> harisund: only /, and ro IIRC
[01:21] <hachre> harisund: if they dont depend on network or raid or something
[01:21] <Zarephath> pmafia: Any  idea which one is actually the one connected to your dsl modem?
[01:21] <pmafia> ya i know
[01:21] <harisund> hachre: I am asking because I want to run a fsck, for which the disks are not supposed to be mounted. I can do it booting in liveCD..
[01:21] <pmafia> the marvell yukon 1
[01:21] <pmafia> im using it on windows
[01:21] <pmafia> right now
[01:21] <hachre> harisund: you can only do it using a bootcd or another installation
[01:21] <pmafia> but its disabled on ubuntu for some reason
[01:21] <harisund> amphi So / does get mounted? hmm... ok ..yeah, I am going to use a bootcd then.. no problem.. thanks..
[01:22] <pmafia> and it wont let me re-enable it
[01:22] <Thinjon100> the same thing happens when I boot in LiveCD as when I try to boot form the HDD installation
[01:22] <hachre> harisund: at least for the / disk
[01:22] <Jowi> theCore: and you selected the correct videocard driver? then restart X like this "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" (warning you will be logged out)
[01:22] <NullVector> !pastebin
[01:22] <ubotu> pastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:22] <graft> pmafia: it doesn't matter... pppoeconf figures all that crap out for you, even
[01:22] <Zarephath> pmafia: Sounds like it is not detecting you nic correctly.....I know of no firewire network cards...
[01:22] <hachre> harisund: for some fscks its enough to mount ro
[01:22] <phish_> how do i configure my nvidia driver settings? is there a gui for it also?
[01:22] <hachre> harisund: you can try using mount / -o ro,remount to do that
[01:22] <hachre> harisund: but it fails most of the time
[01:23] <amphi> harisund: I expect / is mounted ro anyway; mount with no args would show you
[01:23] <harisund> hachre: Well thanks for the tips.. I think I can use a LiveCD.. and preferrably a smaller live CD than the Ubuntu one, since I want to only bootin command line mode
[01:23] <Zarephath> phish_: Breezy has nvidia-settings that needs to be installed
[01:23] <amphi> harisund: what fs?
[01:23] <NullVector> _jason: how do I install this?
[01:23] <pmafia> 1398 network adapter, nvideo nforce networking controller, and marvell yukon
[01:23] <hachre> harisund: hehe
[01:23] <fensta> so we will get xgl with dapper?
[01:23] <hachre> harisund: good luck :)
[01:23] <pmafia> those are install on my windows
[01:23] <Falstius> pmafia: If it helps my Marvel Yukon doesn't have any problems.
[01:23] <harisund> amphi fs? meaning file system? ext3 of course.
[01:23] <graft> goo... damnit. it's so difficult getting musicbrainz tagging support working in amarok
[01:23] <graft> i can never figure out what i have to rebuild
[01:23] <amphi> pmafia: not 8139? ;)
[01:23] <_jason> NullVector: you don't /need/ webboard, you can just copy the text into your browser window and rpess send at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[01:23] <phish_> what about settings on dapper? (im on that channel no help yet :( )
[01:23] <harisund> hachre: thanks.. though I doubt my hard disk is bad.. It automatically fscks every 30 times anyway.
[01:24] <pmafia> no 1397
[01:24] <pmafia> 1394*
[01:24] <Thinjon100> :(
[01:24] <amphi> harisund: pretty much any livecd should support that
[01:24] <hachre> harisund: if you think its physically damaged do a badblocks on its device
[01:24] <pmafia> it has my network cards named eth0 and eth1
[01:24] <graft> fensta: yeah xgl is in dapper
[01:24] <Madpilot> pmafia, 1394 is firewire, not an ethernet connection
[01:24] <pmafia> and there both disabled
[01:24] <fensta> looks rad
[01:24] <Pordos> Madpilot but why would they need access to that password?
[01:24] <graft> fensta: still a pain to get working
[01:24] <NullVector> _jason: gotcha, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12810
[01:24] <Zarephath> 1394* usually has to do with firewire...we aren't concerned with firewire...you have to figure out which one of the 3 you just listed actually is the network card...
[01:24] <pmafia> ok
[01:24] <harisund> hachre: I doubt that. amphi: yeah, I am going to use the SysRescueCD anyway. It has something called partimage which might come in handy for me :)
[01:24] <amphi> harisund: sysresccd.org iso has smartctl on it, which is handy for the onboard disk tests/diagnostics
[01:24] <fensta> even after dapper releases?
[01:25] <pmafia> marvell yukon is the network card
[01:25] <Madpilot> Pordos, because the Gnome keyring has a password on it
[01:25] <harisund> amphi: awesome, more tools eh?
[01:25] <graft> i don't have my crystal ball on me
[01:25] <pmafia> it just had it disabled for some reason
[01:25] <amphi> harisund: it has a consolefb version of qtparted
[01:25] <harisund> amphi: that's precisely what I am looking for :)
[01:25] <fensta> im installing gdesklets now
[01:25] <Pordos> Madpilot but it's not an account i've asked those apps to access in the first place.
[01:25] <_jason> ubotu: tell NullVector about easysource
[01:26] <fensta> not sure where they installed to though :\
[01:26] <Madpilot> pmafia, on my slightly older Asus mobo w/ twin ethernet, my Yukon gbit is eth1, the non-gbit is eth0
[01:26] <Pordos> and what is this gnome keyring stuff?  how can i delete all the keys in it?
[01:26] <Thinjon100> anyone have any ideas?
[01:26] <falcon3> my cat's breath smells like catfood
[01:26] <harisund> amphi, hachre: thanks a ton, I will catch up with you guys later.
[01:26] <pmafia> oh
[01:26] <pmafia> so how can i get mine working?
[01:26] <amphi> harisund: good luck
[01:26] <Madpilot> Pordos, the keyring just stores passwords - FTP, SSH, etc, that's all
[01:26] <pmafia> it has both of them disabled, and cant enable them
[01:26] <_jason> NullVector: go to that page, make a new sources with official and community supported repos and replace your current one.  The command you need to edit your current one is: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[01:27] <NullVector> _jason: shall try
[01:27] <facugaich> can I download a package from the same place I apt-get it, but with wget?
[01:27] <falcon3> the doctor said i wouldnt have so many nosebleeds if i didnt kept my finger in there
[01:27] <ro> hmmm, my /dev/null is broken (missing the c i can now apppend to it) any ideas on how to get it back?
[01:27] <fensta> is there a launcher application similar to mac launch bar for linux?
[01:27] <hachre> harisund: cya around :)
[01:27] <Madpilot> falcon3, if you just want to chat, #ubuntu-offtopic is the place...
[01:27] <Pordos> Madpilot okay, where is this "account" being stored, so that other apps can see it?
[01:28] <Pordos> Madpilot this was a nautilus ssh location that i stored.  i have no idea why _Gizmo_ would be concerned with it, or how it even knows about it.
[01:28] <tulioBRA> someone know how to do a spoofed ping ?
[01:28] <SD_> hi all! does anyone know of an ubuntu based tool for checking harddrive integrity? without damaging files
[01:28] <Pordos> tulioBRA if you spoofed it, how would it know how to be returned to you?
[01:28] <amphi> ro: heh, how did you break /dev/null?
[01:28] <pmafia> so nobody can help me?
[01:28] <Madpilot> Pordos, presumably Gizmo can view the remote volumes, so it asks keyring for the pw to access them
[01:28] <tulioBRA> Pordos :p
[01:29] <hachre> tulioBRA: write your own c program
[01:29] <hachre> tulioBRA: :P
[01:29] <ro> amphi: typo in a script ran as root : (
[01:29] <tulioBRA> xD
[01:29] <Madpilot> pmafia, have you checked ubuntuforums.org? Your mobo should work, not sure why it isn't.
[01:29] <ro> amphi: effectively sudo mv foo /dev/null ,lol
[01:29] <amphi> ro: you could delete it and recreate it with mknod; major 1 minor 3 root root & the permissions of the Beast
[01:30] <hachre> tulioBRA: i dont think this is the right channel for this :P
[01:30] <pmafia> yes i checked
[01:30] <cedric77> here is my question, im new to linux and ubuntu.. while ubuntu installation i made 3 partition 1 swap one aimed at / and the other /home (ext3) ... now id like to create a new partition out of /home like resizing it to get free space to allow me to create another one....... i just installed gparted after some google search, but cant figure out how to do this
[01:30] <ro> amphi: cheers : )
[01:30] <graft> ARGH! what does it take? I rebuilt taglib, i rebuilt tunepimp, i rebuilt musicbrainz, i rebuilt amarok. why won't it let me use musicbrainz servers?
[01:30] <pmafia> its supposed to be supported now i think
[01:30] <daaku> hey everyone.. any powermanagement gurus? i'm trying to figure out how to get suspend working without gnome.. i've tried some of the scripts in /etc/acpi
[01:30] <pmafia> but the version 2
[01:30] <fensta> anyone know where gdesklets installs to?
[01:30] <pmafia> is supported
[01:30] <pmafia> mine is 88e8001
[01:31] <Falstius> fensta, you could check with dpkg -L gesklets
[01:31] <daaku> fensta: dpkg -L gdesklets
[01:31] <NullVector> _jason: do I want to copy over what is already in my source list?
[01:31] <amphi> daaku: I have some idea - your trying to use swsusp?
[01:31] <daaku> Falstius: beat me to it
[01:31] <_jason> NullVector: yes
[01:31] <Falstius> daaku: but I typed gdesklets wrong ;)
[01:31] <gott> Can somebody help me print from my Windows XP computer onto this computer that has Ubuntu Breezy installed on it?
[01:31] <stuzz78> hello :) with apt-get i was going to remove xchat and firefox from my xubuntu-desktop install... but it said that xubuntu-desktop would then be broken... does this matter at all?
[01:31] <fensta> I just dont get it.. why would it not make an icon.. similar to other OS's
[01:31] <Pordos> Madpilot doh!  if i just remove that site from my nautilus bookmarks, it solves the problem ! ;)
[01:32] <daaku> amphi: i'm not sure, but i have a gnome/breezy desktop running and suspend worked fine on a clean install
[01:32] <tulioBRA> hey, i have a dedicated server with ubuntu, and it DDoS only up to 80mbps, and the link is 100mbps, someone know why?
[01:32] <theCore> Jowi: nope, still the same
[01:32] <tonyyarusso> stuzz78: Nope.  -desktop packages can be safely removed.
[01:32] <packy> aaw man, does anyone here have a quick (in their head xev ideA) to what keys 0xdf might be? this xev is eating my harddrive with data :-P
[01:32] <Pordos> i just sent my friend a SIP phone in Seoul, so he can receive free calls from his US friends, and call the US for 1 per minute.  Technology rocks.
[01:32] <Jowi> theCore: what video card you got?
[01:32] <tonyyarusso> stuzz78: However, you probably don't want to remove firefox.
[01:32] <amphi> daaku: assuming sysfs is mounted, 'echo disk > /sys/power/state' should suspend to disk
[01:32] <pmafia> come on somebody shold be able to help me
[01:32] <gott> Can somebody help me be able to print stuff from my Windows XP computer through my network onto this computer that has Ubuntu Breezy installed on it?
[01:32] <tonyyarusso> stuzz78: xchat's fine to drop, but firefox has the gecko rendering engine, which many things depend on.
[01:32] <daaku> daaku: i setup a new dapper system without gnome, and i installed all the relevent powermanagement-interfaces..
[01:32] <Pordos> anyone here live in SF and plan to take advantage of the free wi-fi?
[01:32] <daaku> amphi: let me try that
[01:33] <cedric77> here is my question, I am new to linux and ubuntu.. while ubuntu installation i made 3 partition 1 swap one aimed at / and the other /home (ext3) ... now id like to create a new partition out of /home like resizing it to get free space to allow me to create another one....... i just installed gparted after some google search, but cant figure out how to do this
[01:33] <alexcamilo> pordos: Tech does rock.
[01:33] <NullVector> _Jason, won't let me copy over or edit
[01:33] <gott> Can somebody help me print from my Windows XP computer onto this computer that has Ubuntu Breezy installed on it?
[01:33] <theCore> Jowi: I'm not sure, it's a laptop built-in one. Linux say that it's a Trident CyberBlade/XP
[01:33] <_jason> NullVector: did you use the gksudo command I gave you?
[01:33] <Falstius> cedric77: you need to unmount /home before running gparted.  It is easier to do from a LiveCD (which will have gparted installed)
[01:33] <amphi> !tell gott about samba
[01:33] <pmafia> So nobody can help me? i should forget ubuntu for now?
[01:34] <gott> Yeah, I installed Samba, bu I have no idea what to do with it.
[01:34] <Madpilot> pmafia, try the forums, or google - or complain to Sympatico :P
[01:34] <jirwin> hey could anyone help me stream this video in linux
[01:34] <jirwin> http://media.oregonstate.edu/ramgen/courses/anth210/02/anth210_lecture2.rm
[01:34] <tonyyarusso> pmafia: Sympatico issues?  What?
[01:34] <jirwin> the username is anth210
[01:34] <Jowi> theCore: is xserver-xorg-driver-trident installed?
[01:34] <stuzz78> tonyyarusso:  i'm removing them because i've install opera, and am using that right now to chat, and browse...  do you know what else needs firefox?
[01:34] <jirwin> and the password is Tupac
[01:34] <amphi> gott: that factoid contains a url for an entire book on samba, which covers linux print servers for windows clients
[01:34] <theCore> pmafia: what problem do you have with Sympatico?
[01:34] <pmafia> no i just cant connect to ubuntu with my marvel yukon exam on tues and havent really started to study lol says:
[01:34] <pmafia> just know the intervention model and the differences with political parties
[01:34] <pmafia> DARIUS.5ace says:
[01:34] <pmafia> + read all those cases, + read all those slides
[01:34] <pmafia> my bad...
[01:35] <searunner> so in downloading the breezy dvd (damn kernel dependencies) does it matter if the dvd.iso is burned as -R or +R  ??
[01:35] <cedric77> Falstius: is it safe or even possible to unmount it using gparted or the partition is currently active and it would fail
[01:35] <dark_fibre> i have a couple of HOWTOs that require me to rebuild the kernel. am i right in thinking that if if rebuild it a second time, the first time's changes will be gone?
[01:35] <cedric77> or ill loose data
[01:35] <Madpilot> stuzz78, don't remove firefox - various other apps depend on it
[01:35] <pmafia> i just cant connect to sympatico through my marvel yukon because its disabled for some reason
[01:35] <pmafia> :S
[01:35] <gott> Can somebody help me use Samba to print from my Windows XP pc over my network to this one with Ubuntu that has my printer attached to it?
[01:35] <pmafia> i really wanted to uninstalled windows xp too,
[01:35] <theCore> Jowi: yes
[01:35] <tonyyarusso> stuzz78: I'm not sure, but I think https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion lists a few in the warning at the top.  Give me a minute and I think I can figure out a better answer for you.
[01:35] <Madpilot> gott, ubotu should have sent you a PM
[01:35] <daaku> amphi: tried that.. it seemed like it put it to sleep correcty, but it booted like a clean boot
[01:35] <gott> Where do I read the PM?
[01:35] <Falstius> cedric77: you'll have a difficult time unmounting it will logged in as a normal user.  You'll find it a lot easier using a liveCD.
[01:35] <amphi> daaku: what do you mean?
[01:36] <troyfrew> where is ubuntu xgl channel/
[01:36] <NullVector> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12811 am I missing anything now?
[01:36] <bimberi> !tell gott about xpprint
[01:36] <daaku> amphi: i remember from trying swsp a while ago, do i need any special kernel options?
[01:36] <stuzz78> Madpilot, tonyyarusso:  ok..  firefox stays then...
[01:36] <Madpilot> troyfrew, #ubuntu-xgl
[01:36] <cedric77> ok thank you ill get the live cd than :)
[01:36] <amphi> daaku: sorry, that wasn;t for you - did it restore the previous state?
[01:36] <jirwin> can anyone help me get this video to stream?
[01:36] <tonyyarusso> stuzz78: Yeah, that's wise.
[01:36] <pmafia> hey the core, are you using sympatico?
[01:36] <_jason> NullVector: nope
[01:36] <daaku> amphi: no it didnt, it came back as a clean boot, and didnt complain about anything either
[01:36] <_jason> NullVector: just run sudo apt-get update now and follow the wiki for firefox
[01:37] <daaku> amphi: does it matter if i'm using an encrypted swap partition?
[01:37] <SinnerG> I got troubles installing ubuntu.. again with lilo AND grub..
[01:37] <Jowi> theCore: what I can see at dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Trident the Cyberblade uses the Via apollo ple133 chipset which is not supported it seems (via cle266 is the only via chipset it seems). But to make sure you can try with a later kernel.
[01:37] <tonyyarusso> stuzz78: This should give you an idea: 'apt-cache rdepends firefox | grep -v mozilla | grep -v firefox'
[01:37] <SinnerG> is there a way I can create a bootable floppy ?
[01:37] <stuzz78> tonyyarusso:  actually i was going to remove sylpheed aswell..  since opera can do my emailing to...  any problems there?
[01:37] <Pordos> how do i make it so that a window doesn't automatically open when i mount a USB device?
[01:37] <theCore> Jowi: I'm kinda on the bleeding edge right now :/
[01:38] <tonyyarusso> stuzz78: That should be fine.
[01:38] <pmafia> do you use symptico?
[01:38] <theCore> pmafia: me?
[01:38] <_jason> Pordos: system > prefs removable drives and media
[01:38] <theCore> pmafia: yes
[01:38] <pmafia> yes
[01:38] <NullVector> _jason, thanks
[01:38] <pmafia> how did you set it up?
[01:38] <SinnerG> anyone?
[01:38] <amphi> daaku: strange what does 'grep SOFTWARE_SUSPEND /boot/config-`uname -r`' show?
[01:38] <Jowi> theCore: bleeding edge always take longer to get drivers for
[01:38] <amphi> daaku: note the backticks around 'uname -r'
[01:39] <theCore> pmafia: I connect through a router
[01:39] <stuzz78> tonyyarusso:  don't suppose i can remove firefox and keep gecko some how?
[01:39] <pmafia> is your network card disavled by defualt?
[01:39] <dark_fibre> i have a couple of HOWTOs that require me to rebuild the kernel. am i right in thinking that if if rebuild it a second time, the first time's changes will be gone?
[01:39] <SinnerG> I guess not then...
[01:39] <theCore> Jowi: Hmm... I'm not sure about that
[01:39] <hachre> stuzz78: why would you want that
[01:39] <daaku> amphi: its compiled in (shows a y)
[01:39] <Madpilot> stuzz78, dont' think so
[01:40] <Madpilot> dark_fibre, what're you trying to install?
[01:40] <theCore> pmafia: what do you mean?
[01:40] <pmafia> thecore: is your network card disabled by default?
[01:40] <stuzz78> Madpilot:  ok..  sounds like too much fiddling anywayz
[01:40] <tonyyarusso> stuzz78: Not easily.  I'm sure you could, but I don't think it's worth it.  (Would involve compiling a separate thing of just the gecko engine and then reworking how dependant programs reference it, just icky overall.)
[01:40] <pmafia> because my yukon marvell is disabled
[01:40] <pmafia> and wont let me connect...
[01:40] <stuzz78> hachre:  why would I want what?
[01:40] <stuzz78> tonyyarusso:  you've sold me :)
[01:40] <tonyyarusso> ;)
[01:40] <hachre> stuzz78: remove firefox and keep gecko
[01:40] <Jowi> theCore: cross your fingers and hope it will be included in dapper then :) or even better, file a bug/feature request.
[01:40] <dark_fibre> Madpilot, some IVTV and LIRC drivers
[01:40] <theCore> pmafia: did you enabled it with the networking tool?
[01:41] <pmafia> it wouldnt let me enable it for some reason
[01:41] <theCore> Jowi: I'm on Dapper :/
[01:41] <pmafia> thats my problem :(
[01:41] <Falstius> pmafia, have you been having this problem for a week?  I just had a weird moment of DejaVu.
[01:41] <stuzz78> hachre: apprently other things depend on gecko..  but i don't depend on firefox
[01:41] <hachre> stuzz78: firefox is like 10 mb
[01:41] <bixter> any using the xgl stuff from quinnstorm?
[01:41] <hachre> stuzz78: just keep it :)
[01:41] <pmafia> well before i installed ubuntu couldnt get my network card going, 6 months ago, im giving it another shot right now...
[01:41] <theCore> pmafia: how do you connect?
[01:41] <hachre> stuzz78: but i think those things depend on mozilla not on firefox
[01:41] <pmafia> DSL, ppoe
[01:41] <tr0nic> can i ask if the sources are on the install cd i can't see them in synaptic
[01:42] <pmafia> but i have a router i can use somewhere...
[01:42] <theCore> pmafia: oh, it's not the same then
[01:42] <amphi> daaku: anything in the log? did it you see it saving state to the swap partition? perhaps you need to use a kernel arg to specify the swap partition to use, but I'd have thought it'd would abort rather than silently fail
[01:42] <Jowi> theCore: ouch. maybe you can do what I did on breezy. download a vanilla kernel and see if trident has got any patches for it. compile your own kernel if needed.
[01:42] <amphi> daaku: it should find a signature in the swap partition at boot time
[01:42] <tr0nic> can i ask if the sources are on the install cd i can't see them in synaptic
[01:42] <theCore> Jowi: hehe, easy to say
[01:43] <pmafia> can you guys tell me what eth0 and eth1 mean?
[01:43] <SinnerG>  I tried to install ubuntu and all is well EXCEPT when it gets to the lilo/grub installing it returns with a fatal <= anyone knows how to fix it?
[01:43] <tr0nic> eth0 is the primary ethernet device
[01:43] <Madpilot> tr0nic, don't think so - there are seperate repos for the sources
[01:43] <pmafia> theCore: is it okay if i PM you for a couple of seconds?
[01:43] <tr0nic> its not on the install cd?
[01:43] <graft> arr. anyone know how to get tunepimp with mp3 support?
[01:43] <dark_fibre> i have a couple of HOWTOs that require me to rebuild the kernel. am i right in thinking that if if rebuild it a second time, the first time's changes will be gone?
[01:43] <tr0nic> ok
[01:43] <daaku> amphi: ah, thats the problem, my swap is encrypted using a random key on every boot..
[01:43] <theCore> pmafia: ok...
[01:43] <Madpilot> pmafia, they're just the IDs for different net connections
[01:43] <bixter> pmafia: its the different cards in ur computer
[01:43] <NullVector> _jason: won't let me save the config file
[01:44] <UKMatt> hey is there a ctrl alt del equivalent for ubuntu?
[01:44] <Der_Richter> Why won't "make" work out-of-the-box on 5.10!? Bah.
[01:44] <tonyyarusso> !b-e
[01:44] <ubotu> b-e is, like, no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.
[01:44] <graft> UKMatt: ctrl-alt-del works in ubuntu
[01:44] <daaku> amphi: this looks like suspend-to-disk.. would 'echo ram > /sys/power/state' do a suspend-to-ram?
[01:44] <_jason> NullVector: start mplayer, then close it, then try again
[01:44] <theCore> pmafia: i don't really like the idea of private helping though ...
[01:44] <tr0nic> build-install der-richter it's a package you must install
[01:44] <UKMatt> it's not for me
[01:44] <Madpilot> UKMatt, yeah, ctrl+alt+del - or ctrl+alt+backspace
[01:44] <graft> ctrl-alt-backspace just kills X, no?
[01:44] <daaku> amphi: cause the one that i have working in gnome/breezy is suspend to ram, not disk
[01:44] <Der_Richter> tr0nic: I know. But personally i would have liked it included.
[01:44] <tr0nic> same here der-richter it's very small
[01:44] <daaku> amphi: and that has the same encrypted swap setup
[01:45] <Jowi> theCore: it was the first kernel patching i had done as well. it can be done and is easier than it looks, if you find a patch.
[01:45] <NullVector> _jason: still no go
[01:45] <stuzz78> hachre:  yep..  sounds like all too much work..  only 10mb on a 6gb drive is still something tho :)
[01:45] <tr0nic> same as the sources bah
[01:45] <stuzz78> harchre:  that's right..  i said 6.4!!
[01:45] <_jason> NullVector: you are trying to save ~/.mplayer/config right?
[01:45] <NullVector> yes
[01:45] <tr0nic> never mind i still like ubutu :)
[01:45] <UKMatt> ha well ctrl alt backspace is RESTART i guess........'
[01:45] <_jason> NullVector: ls -l ~/.mplayer
[01:45] <theCore> Jowi: compiling a kernel, it's finding the right problem that's hard
[01:45] <Der_Richter> Is kernel-sources included on install? Haven't checked yet since my switch from slack...
[01:46] <_jason> NullVector: ls -ld ~/.mplayer
[01:46] <tr0nic> no der_richter not according to someone else just then
[01:46] <UKMatt> is there a task manager, i keep opening amarok, and load screen comes up and then goes away and never finishes opening
[01:46] <tr0nic> i have a problem now because they won't fit on a floppy
[01:46] <Madpilot> UKMatt, ctrl alt bksp is "restart X"
[01:46] <_jason> tr0nic: build-essential is on the cd
[01:46] <UKMatt> what do you mean restart X
[01:46] <Der_Richter> tr0nic: Crap. Well. Might as well get that. Don't need it now, but i will. I know it.
[01:46] <theCore> Jowi: s/kernel/kernel is easy/
[01:46] <tr0nic> jason the sources aren't on the cd are they
[01:46] <Madpilot> UKMatt, restart just the GUI, more or less
[01:46] <Buntun00b> Is the default install broken with some packages?
[01:46] <Jowi> theCore: what you are looking for is called "linux kernel patch for trident dri support". make a google search :)
[01:47] <nickrud> Der_Richter, why in the world would you need the kernel sources :)
[01:47] <_jason> tr0nic: what do you mean by ``sources''?
[01:47] <UKMatt> oh yeah it seemed really quick, is there a task manager?
[01:47] <tr0nic> the kernel sources
[01:47] <psyke83> hi is anyone here using an ati rage 128-based (r128) video card?
[01:47] <_jason> tr0nic: ah, they are not
[01:47] <tr0nic> you need them in order to compile some drivers
[01:47] <daaku> amphi: i got it working! thanks to a forum entry: 'sudo pmi action suspend'
[01:47] <_jason> afaik
[01:47] <tr0nic> ok
[01:47] <Madpilot> UKMatt, Applications -> System Tools -> System Monitor
[01:47] <nickrud> erm, well that was about as bad a place to add that comment as possible
[01:47] <pmafia> ok guys my problem is...i was just wondering what eth0 and eth1 mean? (my network cards?) there both disabled, if i use a router and auto connect, wil it become enabled? or is it disabled because its not detected?becuase when i tried to use pppoe to setup sympatico account, it wouldnt let me enable modem, and i couldnt enable my eht0 and eth1? my network card is the marvell yukon 88e8001
[01:47] <Der_Richter> nickrud: I need built in support for stuff that's not supported from the start. Perhaps?
[01:48] <Der_Richter> :)
[01:48] <UKMatt> madpilot ty
[01:48] <NullVector> _jason: still no go
[01:48] <nickrud> Der_Richter, heh, and Jowi just gave an example :)
[01:48] <tr0nic> i'm only a beginner
[01:48] <UKMatt> does anyone here know any music programs very well?
[01:48] <Buntun00b> When I try and install imagicmagick it says, dependences not met, yet this is a clean install.
[01:48] <_jason> NullVector: I wanted the output from that last command
[01:48] <amphi> daaku: uhuh - I wonder why the sysfs interface doesn't work for you
[01:49] <amphi> daaku: what machine is this?
[01:49] <Madpilot> Buntun00b, how are you installing imagemajick?
[01:49] <NullVector> _jason: drwxr-xr-x  2 chad chad 176 2006-04-23 19:44 /home/chad/.mplayer
[01:49] <The_thing> http://www.wikiguitar.net/index.php?title=Main
[01:49] <_jason> NullVector: close gedit and start over, does it still happen?
[01:49] <daaku> amphi: its a Compaq/HP nc6220 Laptop
[01:49] <The_thing> Please?
[01:49] <The_thing> http://www.wikiguitar.net/index.php?title=Main
[01:49] <Buntun00b> Madpilot, apt-get install imagemagick
[01:49] <NullVector> yes
[01:49] <The_thing> PLEASE?
[01:49] <The_thing> http://www.wikiguitar.net/index.php?title=Main
[01:49] <_jason> The_thing: stop
[01:49] <NullVector> _jason: yes
[01:49] <The_thing> why
[01:49] <Madpilot> The_thing, stop spamming
[01:49] <sybariten> ok appearently dpkg-reconfigure locales didnt do it for the system language .... any other ideas on how to change for instance what language fdisk is in, before i reinstall this darn machine from CD
[01:50] <jinho> hi is it possible to mount 2 sata hds in raid 0 (ntfs) to ubuntu?
[01:50] <amphi> The_thing: what are you raving about?
[01:50] <_jason> NullVector: touch ~/.mplayer/config
[01:50] <pmafia> can anybody please help me!
[01:50] <Madpilot> Buntun00b, you should enable the Universe & Multiverse repos, then try again
[01:50] <The_thing> about http://www.wikiguitar.net/index.php?title=Main
[01:50] <daaku> amphi: i think the encrypted swap is the issue. suspend-to-disk never worked for me anyways - but the suspend to ram is enough
[01:50] <UKMatt> can anyone help me with Amarok?
[01:50] <Buntun00b> Madpilot, I have.
[01:50] <The_thing> now lemme guess
[01:50] <daaku> amphi: thanks for your help
[01:50] <amphi> daaku: ah, encrypted swap - now you tell me ;)
[01:50] <packy> internet
[01:50] <packy> it does these amazing things
[01:50] <packy> :-P
[01:51] <NullVector> _jason: thats command did nothing??
[01:51] <jinho> hi is it possible to mount 2 sata hds in raid 0 (ntfs) to ubuntu? Also, is there a chance I could screw up those 2 hds by moutning if it is possible?
[01:51] <_jason> NullVector: ls -l ~/.mplayer/config
[01:51] <Madpilot> Buntun00b, did you update after changing your sources?
[01:51] <blindx> There's an error of some sort.... The "Updates Available" icon pops up in the corner, and when I click on it, the available updates (there's five) are apt, apt-utils, firefox, firefox-gnome-support, and gimp. (all of which I believe I already have installed)
[01:51] <amphi> jinho: mounting ro should be ok
[01:51] <Buntun00b> Madpilot, yes.
[01:51] <pmafia> somebody please help me...........
[01:51] <Der_Richter> blindx: New versions?
[01:51] <_jason> !helpme
[01:51] <blindx> When I click apply anyways, it prompts for the CD. I put in the CD, it does its thing, but they stay on the list, and the icon doesn't go away...
[01:51] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[01:52] <NullVector> _jason: you want that output?
[01:52] <_jason> NullVector: yeah
[01:52] <pmafia> my question is i was just wondering what eth0 and eth1 mean? (my network cards?) there both disabled, if i use a router and auto connect, wil it become enabled? or is it disabled because its not detected?becuase when i tried to use pppoe to setup sympatico account, it wouldnt let me enable modem, and i couldnt enable my eht0 and eth1? my network card is the marvell yukon 88e8001
[01:52] <NullVector> -rw-r--r--  1 chad chad   44 2006-04-23 19:50 config
[01:52] <NullVector> -rw-r--r--  1 chad chad 2432 2006-04-23 19:47 gui.conf
[01:52] <NullVector> -rw-r--r--  1 chad chad    0 2006-04-23 19:47 gui.history
[01:52] <NullVector> -rw-r--r--  1 chad chad    0 2006-04-23 19:47 gui.pl
[01:52] <NullVector> -rw-r--r--  1 chad chad    0 2006-04-23 19:47 gui.url
[01:52] <nickrud> blindx, you can easily check: dpkg -l firefox shows your installed version, compare to what the updater says
[01:52] <Buntun00b> Madpilot, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get install imagemagick
[01:52] <NullVector> sorry for spam
[01:52] <amphi> NullVector: please don't barf in the channel ;)
[01:52] <Madpilot> NullVector, pastebin next time
[01:52] <blindx> nickrud, even if it was a new version, it doesn't actually DO anything.
[01:52] <jinho> amphi: do you know how to go about doing it?
[01:52] <Madpilot> Buntun00b, you had sudo in front of all of those?
[01:52] <NullVector> sorry, didn't realise it would paste like that
[01:52] <_jason> NullVector: umm ls -l ~/.mplayer/config should have only given you one line :P, now do 'gedit ~/.mplayer/config' and try to change it and save
[01:52] <Buntun00b> Madpilot, I've enable root on my machine,
[01:53] <amphi> jinho: doing what?
[01:53] <graft> pmafia: if you use pppoe, it creates a new interface, usually ppp0, which is the one it uses as your 'real' internet connection.
[01:53] <Der_Richter> blindx: Try changing your package-sources.
[01:53] <jinho> amphi: and is there any chance of changing/ ruining whats on those drives by mounting them up in ubuntu?
[01:53] <Madpilot> Buntun00b, bleh - why? anyway, I just tried installing imagemagick, and it worked here
[01:53] <graft> pmafia: you should run pppoeconf
[01:53] <nickrud> blindx, hrm. Downloaded but not installed? (first guess, there's a lot of reasons for an apparent difference)
[01:53] <jinho> amphi: mount the raid 0 hds so I can access stuff in them
[01:53] <pmafia> how do i run that?
[01:53] <graft> um
[01:53] <jinho> amphi: I'm on dual boot right now thats why
[01:53] <graft> sudo pppoeconf
[01:53] <blindx> nickrud, it doesn't download anyway. it prompts me for the CD
[01:53] <pmafia> i dont understand what that means :S
[01:53] <Madpilot> Buntun00b, copy this sources.list into yours, and try again: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[01:53] <Buntun00b> Madpilot, regardless of my reasons for having root enbable. That is not my problem. My problem is that this is suppose to be a stable ssytem yet it's complaining about dependences
[01:53] <pmafia> im new to linux
[01:53] <Buntun00b> thanks
[01:53] <amphi> jinho: I doubt it, if you mount ro (which is the default for ntfs AFAIK) - but my 'knowledge' if ntfs is hearsay ;)
[01:54] <graft> pmafia: type 'sudo pppoeconf' in your shell
[01:54] <blindx> butit just happened out of the blue.. i hadn't changed them, it just randomly happened.
[01:54] <blindx> and by them, i mean my sources.
[01:54] <Madpilot> Buntun00b, I suspect there's some error in your sources.list...
[01:54] <pmafia> where my shell? sorry bro, im really new to linux
[01:54] <Der_Richter> Oh. Quake4 is actually around 20% faster running under Ubuntu than WinXP. Sweet. All according to my personal tests :)
[01:54] <nickrud> blindx, ar, comment out the cdrom line in /etc/apt/sources.list (add a # to the beginning of that line)
[01:54] <graft> ergh. hrm
[01:54] <graft> !shell
[01:54] <ubotu> shell is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[01:54] <Buntun00b> Madpilot, I'll get back to you in 2 mins. :D thanks.
[01:54] <jinho> amphi: sorry i didnt quite get that
[01:54] <NullVector> now to see if streaming works, thanks Jason
[01:54] <Madpilot> pmafia, application menu -> accessories -> terminal
[01:54] <nickrud> blindx, then sudo apt-get update
[01:54] <pmafia> thanks
[01:55] <amphi> jinho: I'm by no means an authority on ntfs, but if you mount it read-only, it should survive unscathed
[01:55] <pmafia> before i go try that. can you guys confirm if my eht0 and eth1 are disabled, does that mean there not supported, or does it mean they are supported and there disabled because im not connected to the internet
[01:55] <theCore> pmafia: it is the Terminal
[01:55] <Madpilot> jinho, Linux cannot safely write to NTFS (yet)
[01:55] <blindx> nickrud, same issue.
[01:56] <amphi> pmafia: try sudo ifconfig -a in your term
[01:56] <jinho> Madpilot so that means I can only acess it right?
[01:56] <NullVector> _jason: other than sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer, is there something else I need to do in order to stream?
[01:56] <pmafia> sure, but what about the eth0 and eth1 thing?
[01:56] <amphi> jinho: although there is 'captive ntfs' which may write safely
[01:56] <jinho> Madpilot: therefore having no chance of accidentally changing something?
[01:56] <theCore> pmafia: I had issues too, when I did try to configure PPPoE on Linux
[01:56] <_jason> NullVector: possibly, you may have totem as your default
[01:56] <nickrud> blindx, how about posting on a pastebin, cat /etc/apt/sources.list. sudo aptitude update
[01:56] <amphi> pmafia: the command I gave you will show what interfaces are available
[01:57] <Madpilot> jinho, yes, provided you mount it read-only as was mentioned
[01:57] <jinho> amphi, Madpilot: do you know how I could mount a Raid 0 sata drives?
[01:57] <graft> pmafia: if eth0 and eth1 are listed when you do ifconfig -a, then they're supported and disabled because you're not connected to the internet
[01:57] <Madpilot> jind, I've got SATA, but not RAID - I know zip about RAID -sorry
[01:57] <pmafia> ok thanks!
[01:58] <amphi> graft: it's more relaxing at the trailing edge ;)
[01:58] <Madpilot> nickrud, what issues? Plug it in, format it, done. :P
[01:58] <pmafia> imgunna go try everything again
[01:58] <pmafia> and come back and tell you guys wassup, tahnks !
[01:58] <NullVector> _jason: how do I check to see which is set as defualt?
[01:58] <amphi> pmafia: good luck
[01:58] <blindx> nickrud, http://pastebin.com/677915
[01:58] <nickrud> Madpilot just how long have you been using ubuntu? :)
[01:58] <_jason> NullVector: about:plugins in your firefox address bar
[01:58] <Madpilot> nickrud, a year
[01:58] <_jason> NullVector: restart firefox after installing mozilla-mplayer
[01:59] <jinho> does anyone here know how to mount 2 sata drives in RAID 0?
[01:59] <graft> amphi: zoobat?
[01:59] <Madpilot> nickrud, and w/ SATA for most of that
[01:59] <Buntun00b> Madpilot, how many years linux?
[01:59] <amphi> graft: sorry, misfire
[01:59] <nickrud> Madpilot, I you luck dude :)
[01:59] <Madpilot> Buntun00b, a year :)
[01:59] <nickrud> s/I/I curse/ :)
[01:59] <NullVector> _jason: I did
[01:59] <NullVector> _jason: The Totem 1.2.0 plugin handles video and audio streams.
[02:00] <graft> Madpilot: what before this?
[02:00] <Buntun00b> Madpilot, Guess I should change my nick from n00b then...hehe....
[02:00] <NullVector> _jason, don't see away to change it to mplayer
[02:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell NullVector about replacetotem
[02:00] <__mikem> FedoraHore I like your screen name, but it might be against the coc
[02:00] <Madpilot> nickrud, I've had really good luck w/ hardware, actually. Everything just works, pretty much.
[02:00] <nickrud> blindx, and you say it's asking for the CD?
[02:00] <Madpilot> graft, Win98 then XP
[02:00] <blindx> when i click apply updates, yes
[02:00] <nickrud> Madpilot, me too. I stick with the old stuff :)
[02:00] <blindx> Actually, nickrud, now it's not.
[02:00] <blindx> but it doesn't do anything
[02:00] <Buntun00b> Sadly I need use XP here, cubase/reason are windows/mac software, but linux is my gateway/file backup.
[02:01] <Xenguy> Seveas: OK, I did not do it (nxserver --adduser), just grasping at straws/ideas as to what I can do to get the windows client to work with my Ubu/Breezy freenx server setup (as I mentioned, the current setup works with the linux 'nxclient')
[02:01] <blindx> i click apply, it shows a window, but the bar moves so fast and it finishes, before i can read it
[02:01] <amphi> blindx: replicating windows behaviour *sigh*
[02:02] <blindx> :\
[02:02] <nickrud> heh. I typed several things, but amphi summarizes well
[02:02] <amphi> blindx: console is so much more civilised ;)
[02:02] <blindx> what can i... do?
[02:02] <nickrud> blindx, try aptitude update & aptitude upgrade in a terminal
[02:03] <blindx> ok
[02:03] <Xenguy> Seveas: basically ssh authentication seems fine; it is when it gets to the X connection stage that something fails :-/
[02:03] <__mikem> amphi, there called terminals, console is winblows lingo
[02:03] <theCore> Jowi: could you take a look to my xorg.conf file?
[02:03] <Jowi> sure theCore, put it in the pastebin
[02:03] <theCore> Jowi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12812
[02:03] <amphi> __mikem: er, console is called 'console' - by 'terminal' I assume you mean xterms
[02:04] <blindx> hey, nickrud, that got it. thanks
[02:04] <Buntun00b> Madpilot, Thanks man it's worked.  I'm still confused as to why my previous sources list did not work, it was the gb.ubutu ones, they are suppose to be mirrors correct just more localized.
[02:04] <__mikem> yes, I was, weren't you?
[02:04] <Jowi> theCore: looks correct
[02:04] <Madpilot> Buntun00b, some of the mirrors have issues - I always use the main archives
[02:04] <theCore> Jowi: the last section bother me
[02:04] <graft> what the... apt-build? how long has this been around?
[02:04] <nickrud> blindx, yw. Testing & finding gui errors will help in the long run, if you can work it out
[02:04] <graft> damnit
[02:05] <amphi> __mikem: no, I meant 'console' - ie. what you see if you press atl-ctrl-1 & friends
[02:05] <Buntun00b> Madpilot, I'm going to as well now.
[02:05] <__mikem> !language
[02:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[02:05] <__mikem> oh, my bad
[02:05] <theCore> Jowi: what mode 666 mean?
[02:05] <NullVector> _jason: well quicktime video is working, no sound though. wegular streaming video isn't though
[02:05] <Jowi> theCore: the DRI section is fine. but if the kernel driver (or xorg driver) doesn't support it it doesn't matter
[02:05] <Jowi> theCore: it means it is evil of course ;)
[02:05] <amphi> theCore: the permissions of the Beast, rw for all
[02:05] <blindx> 666 means everyone can read it :D
[02:05] <Pordos> anyone know of a calendar program that supports ical format?
[02:05] <blindx> and write.
[02:05] <_jason> NullVector: does about:plugins show mplayer as default?
[02:05] <Buntun00b> Madpilot, who do we report broken mirrors to? Because I'd much rather have downloads at 400k than 40k.
[02:06] <sybariten> even Lu Ci Fer
[02:06] <Jowi> blindx: and *that* is eeeeviiiiiil
[02:06] <facugaich> I need to install linux-686 and its dependencies, but I have to download 20+ Mb. Is there a way pause and resume download like with wget?
[02:06] <blindx> haha
[02:06] <theCore> amphi: even in xorg.conf?
[02:06] <Madpilot> Buntun00b, I'm not sure
[02:06] <__mikem> lol 666
[02:06] <bobbyd> Buntun00b, broken mirrors? 7 years of bad luck!
[02:06] <bimberi> Pordos: mozilla-calendar and evolution are 2
[02:06] <__mikem> black cats
[02:06] <amphi> theCore: nothing under /etc  should be 666
[02:06] <__mikem> walks under laters
[02:06] <__mikem> friday 13
[02:06] <Buntun00b> facugaich, it should cache it automatically as it downloads.
[02:06] <__mikem> steping on a crack
[02:06] <amphi> facugaich: apt-get will resume
[02:06] <NullVector> _jason: appears to be defualt yes
[02:07] <bimberi> facugaich: apt tools (such as apt-get) will resume where they leave off if interrupted
[02:07] <Xenguy> .oO(where's the guy who's nick is 'satan' and 'lucifer' combined, when we need him?)
[02:07] <_jason> NullVector: have you installed w32codecs?
[02:07] <amphi> 'satifer'?
[02:07] <facugaich> even if I ctrl-C them?
[02:07] <NullVector> _jason: matter of fact, its the only plugin being used
[02:07] <theCore> amphi: yes, but I was talking about a section in my xorg.conf file
[02:07] <blindx> hey _jason, do you remember that command you gave me before? find -name *.jpg -print0 | xargs rm 0   or something of the sort?
[02:07] <NullVector> _jason: no
[02:07] <_jason> blindx: you didn't write it down!!!?
[02:07] <Buntun00b> facugaich, look in /var/cache/apt/archives  it puts the cached stuff there.
[02:07] <Xenguy> amphi: all letters of both names, combined
[02:07] <blindx> :[ im sorry haha
[02:07] <_jason> blindx: xargs -0
[02:07] <amphi> theCore: that's different
[02:07] <Jowi> Xenguy: well, since DRI need DRM to work maybe it IS the number of the beast (a longshot I know and a tiny bit offtopic)
[02:07] <blindx> -0 thanks
[02:07] <Buntun00b> facugaich, yes even if you crtl-c them.
[02:07] <_jason> ubotu: tell NullVector about w32codecs
[02:08] <theCore> amphi: I know, that why I asked ;)
[02:08] <facugaich> thank you all
[02:08] <amphi> Xenguy: oh, like INTERCAL's interleave operator? ;)
[02:08] <blindx> so it's..  find -name *.jpg -print0 | rm xargs -0
[02:08] <Xenguy> amphi: over my head ;-)
[02:08] <_jason> blindx: xargs -0 rm
[02:08] <theCore> Jowi: ok, thanks for the help. I think I will have to write my own driver then ...
[02:08] <blindx> oh. ok
[02:08] <blindx> thanks
[02:09] <amphi> blindx: put the '*.jpg' in single quotes to stop the shell expanding it
[02:09] <sybariten> hey
[02:09] <sybariten> about jumper settings
[02:09] <sybariten> which one do i want to use for an extra storage drive ... from this page
[02:09] <Jowi> theCore: unfortunatly. it is being worked on though according to dri.sourceforge.org but when will it be ready is a totally different question.
[02:09] <sybariten> http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/dtla/dtlajum.htm
[02:09] <Pordos> bimberi i can't get evolution to add an ical calendar on the web. :(  it wants something called webcall://
[02:09] <sybariten> ubuntu server, with a 3.5 gb drive as system drive .... and the drive i am adding already has a ubuntu system but i am hoping it will be mountable anyhow
[02:10] <theCore> Jowi: dri.sourceforge.org???
[02:10] <Jowi> theCore: sorry, replace .org with .net
[02:10] <amphi> sybariten: you probably want slave mode, but I don't know exactly what you're doing
[02:11] <theCore> Jowi: doesn't exist neither
[02:11] <sybariten> amphi: yes i'd say slave mode too ... but could it be that i want 15 logical head ?
[02:11] <Jowi> theCore: it redirects to http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[02:11] <sybariten> the sketch to the right
[02:11] <Buntun00b> Thank you for the help, have a good evening/morning/day. ^-^
[02:11] <theCore> Jowi: nevermind
[02:11] <bimberi> Pordos: not sure sorry, you could try a http://... address
[02:11] <amphi> theCore: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[02:11] <facugaich> Also, how come I have an AMD Athlon processor and my architecture is 686?
[02:12] <amphi> sybariten: no idea
[02:12] <FedoraHore> hello everyone
[02:12] <NullVector> _jason: not having much luck
[02:12] <Jowi> facugaich: you should use the k7 kernel
[02:13] <Pordos> google calendar is sick.
[02:13] <_jason> NullVector: with?
[02:13] <Jowi> !info linux-k7
[02:13] <ubotu> linux-k7: (Complete Linux kernel on AMD K7.), section restricted/base, is optional. Version: 2.6.12.16.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[02:13] <__mikem> Hey FedoraHore, I love your nick name, but it might be against the CoC
[02:13] <FedoraHore> lol
[02:13] <Pordos> bimberi well, now it doesn't spit out an error, but it's not loading my google calendar.
[02:13] <FedoraHore> CoC?
[02:13] <__mikem> Code of Conduct
[02:13] <facugaich> I know Jowi, but it installed automatically with the 686
[02:13] <FedoraHore> ah
[02:13] <FedoraHore> okie..
[02:13] <Jowi> facugaich: "sudo apt-get install linux-k7" will fix that :)
[02:13] <blindx> is there a switch you can put on find to list everything EXCEPT the given variable?
[02:13] <NullVector> _jason: streaming video
[02:14] <AkariChan> fc is not bad but it won't run on my pc, period -_-
[02:14] <facugaich> Jowi, I see, thanks
[02:14] <_jason> NullVector: did w32codecs install ok
[02:14] <sybariten> Pordos: whats cool about it ?
[02:14] <bimberi> Pordos: sorry, i haven't done this myself :/
[02:14] <AkariChan> anyways can someone help me - i am trying to mount a raid (2+0 stripe), any ideas anyone?
[02:14] <Psykus> hey, anyone have experience running ubuntu under vmware?
[02:14] <__mikem> Psykus yes
[02:14] <__mikem> Psykus I did it for a while
[02:15] <NullVector> _jason: no, says sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[02:15] <_jason> NullVector: hmm?
[02:15] <AkariChan> are u guys running 6.06?
[02:15] <_jason> !dapepr
[02:15] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _jason
[02:15] <_jason> !dapper
[02:15] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[02:15] <__mikem> nope, I am still on breezy
[02:15] <NullVector> jason: it says - package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[02:15] <Psykus> not sure if the issue is related to vmware or not, but when launching gnome, I get the error message "The application "gnome-panel" attempted to change an aspect of your configuration that your system administrator or operating system vendor does not allow you to change. Some of the settings you have selected may not take effect, or may not be restored next time you use the application"
[02:16] <_jason> NullVector: umm, yeah amd64 is difficult to get working with that and I don't know how, you'll have to look into chroot afaik
[02:16] <Psykus> i recently wiped the drive I had been using my home folder on, and recreated the home folder and user folder, changing ownership to the appropriate user
[02:16] <NullVector> joy
[02:16] <__mikem> Psykus, I never saw that before, but in windows, what is the permissions level of your current windows username
[02:17] <NullVector> was going so well to
[02:17] <Psykus> administrator
[02:17] <__mikem> ok, then that obviously aint the problem
[02:17] <__mikem> what version of ubuntu is it and where did you get it
[02:18] <Psykus> under details, it says "No database available to save your configuration: Unable to store a value at key '.apps/panel/toplevels/top_panel_screen0/size', as the configuration server has no writable databases."
[02:18] <__mikem> ok, do me a favor and boot the thing to a command line
[02:19] <Psykus> from inside vmware? or natively?
[02:19] <__mikem> vmware
[02:19] <Psykus> i have it using a physical drive for ubuntu
[02:19] <Psykus> k
[02:19] <Psykus> i killed the GUI, it's at a command prompt
[02:20] <UKMatt> Does anyone know why middle clicking a tab in firefox not close it?
[02:20] <Psykus> i also haven't installed the vmware tools yet, mainly because I haven't been able to get net access to the virtual machine yet
[02:20] <Jowi> UKMatt: that annoys me as well.
[02:20] <__mikem> alright, I want you to try dpkg-reconfigure on x
[02:21] <Psykus> UKMatt, there's some option in about:config that allows you to change that
[02:21] <UKMatt> jowi: is there a way to change it to stop the weird copy and close instead
[02:21] <Pmafia> THANKS!
[02:21] <Pmafia> those commands you gave me made me run
[02:21] <Pmafia> my internet, i set it up
[02:21] <__mikem> Psykus, Try to dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[02:21] <UKMatt> psykus: how?
[02:21] <Pmafia> everything is working!
[02:21] <Pmafia> I love ubuntu
[02:21] <Pmafia> !
[02:21] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Pmafia
[02:21] <Psykus> UKMatt, type "about:config" in the URL bar, and hit enter
[02:21] <Psykus> there's some setting in there that you change, but I can't remember which
[02:22] <__mikem> Psykus, did you get that
[02:22] <UKMatt> psykus: yeah I'm there, which do you change?
[02:22] <Pmafia> thanks guy!
[02:22] <Jowi> UKMatt: copy and close? i don't get that either. well "about:config" does not have the middle click option listed it seems.
[02:22] <amphi> Pmafia: w00t ;)
[02:22] <Pmafia> w0000000000000000000000000000t!
[02:22] <Pmafia> linux owns! deleted windows tonight!
[02:22] <Jowi> UKMatt: only for opening tabs, not for closing them
[02:22] <UKMatt> jowi: no i'm saying when I use it it does some kind of paste, i WANT it to close
[02:22] <Psykus> __mikem, says the package xorg is not installed
[02:23] <amphi> Pmafia: congratulations on your auto-defenestration ;)
[02:23] <__mikem> thats weird
[02:23] <UKMatt> psykus: what do i change in the about:config? any idea?
[02:23] <Psykus> i could still use gnome, the panel just wouldn't come up
[02:23] <Pmafia> but guys, just a question if i want to give my buddy linux, if his drivers arnt supported or auto detected, how can he install drivers?
[02:23] <sneex> is there away to disable the log in sounds (Brezzy badger) -- I cant seem to turn them off
[02:23] <joshr> is vlc in the repositories?
[02:23] <Psykus> UKMatt, type "middle" into the filter box, and double click on "middlemouse.paste", change to false
[02:24] <Psykus> erm, double clicking it will change it to false
[02:24] <__mikem> ok, can you find out if a package called ubuntu-desktop is installed for me
[02:24] <bimberi> sneex: System -> Preferences -> Sound
[02:24] <Jowi> UKMatt: middle click to paste is a feature of X (highlite any text even in a terminal then middle click in a textarea anv voila), it has nothing to do with firefox. but middle click on a tab to close i want. it seems to have dissappeard
[02:24] <amphi> Pmafia: you could see what hw he has and check that it's supported before you start
[02:24] <UKMatt> Psykus, yeah I did that, is there a way to change it so that when I middle click an open tab, it closes it?
[02:24] <Jowi> anv = and
[02:24] <bobbyd> Pmafia, run a live cd on his machine and lspci
[02:24] <Pmafia> lspci?
[02:24] <Pmafia> whats that?
[02:24] <Psykus> UKMatt, also change "middlemouse.contentLoadURL"
[02:24] <amphi> Pmafia: man lspci in a terminal ;)
[02:24] <Psykus> to false of course
[02:25] <joshr> is vlc mediaplayer in the repositories?
[02:25] <Pmafia> sorry man im new...
[02:25] <UKMatt> Psykus: that was it, tyvm
[02:25] <amphi> Pmafia: no worries
[02:25] <Psykus> cool :D
[02:25] <bobbyd> Pmafia, it's a cimmand line app that shows you all the cards an other hardware in a machine, identifying it if it knows it
[02:25] <scorchsaber> Hey, My brother was using my computer, and somehow managed to delete the bottom panel-thing. How would I get it back?
[02:25] <Jowi> Psykus: wow, look at that. i thought it couldn't be disabled.
[02:25] <Psykus> __mikem, sec
[02:25] <__mikem> ok
[02:25] <bobbyd> Pmafia, there's probably a graphical app in Gnome, but I ude KDE so I don't know...
[02:25] <amphi> Pmafia: it lists hw connected to the pci bus
[02:26] <Pmafia> but what if its not?
[02:26] <sneex> bimberi, thats turns off all sounds - I want logging on sounds stopped.  maybe Im misunderstanding you?
[02:26] <Pmafia> for my buddy
[02:26] <Pmafia> because he has a sony vaio laptop p4
[02:26] <Pmafia> 3.0
[02:26] <bimberi> scorchsaber: right-click on the top panel -> New Panel
[02:26] <Pmafia> and maybe some of his hardware isnt accepted
[02:26] <Pmafia> how would he go about installing drivers on linux?
[02:26] <amphi> Pmafia: laptop? look at linux-laptop.net and tuxmobil.org for his model
[02:27] <Pmafia> thanks! i will, is ther a guide on how to install and located drivers on the internet, other then just using google? like how to find drivers you probly use google, but how to install them?
[02:27] <Psykus> __mikem, i'll brb, will try booting ubuntu natively just to see if the problem comes back
[02:27] <amphi> Pmafia: those sites should document any problematic hw and possibly workarounds/solutions
[02:27] <bimberi> sneex: Sound Events tab, under System events
[02:27] <__mikem> ok
[02:27] <Psykus> if it's gone, I know the issue is related to vmware
[02:27] <__mikem> ok
[02:27] <scorchsaber> bimberi: How do I move the items in the panel?
[02:27] <Psykus> and likely that vmware tools that I need to install
[02:27] <amphi> Pmafia: most drivers are already in the kernel
[02:27] <__mikem> what version of vmware are you using
[02:27] <AkariChan> 5.5?
[02:28] <__mikem> nvm
[02:28] <Pmafia> i know but im saying worst case scenerio, sorry to be a pain in the ass too
[02:28] <Pmafia> i just want to know how to install drivers,
[02:28] <Pmafia> because im completely new to linux,
[02:28] <__mikem> same way you install any other package
[02:28] <Pmafia> i only used windows before today
[02:28] <amphi> Pmafia: 'sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof'
[02:28] <bimberi> scorchsaber: you will need to create them in the new panel - right-click -> Add to Panel - most of the bottom panel ones in the "desktop and windows" category
[02:29] <__mikem> Pmafia, do you like to read
[02:29] <sneex> bimberi, yippy =)
[02:29] <Pmafia> only for my exams i read
[02:29] <amphi> Pmafia: there may be driver source that you need to compile
[02:29] <sneex> that stuff was lost in all the game sounds
[02:29] <Pmafia> i try to avoid that as much as possible
[02:29] <Pmafia> compile? :S
[02:29] <Pmafia> linux comes with a compiler?
[02:29] <bimberi> sneex: yeah.  now you can enjoy the silence :)
[02:29] <scorchsaber> bimberI: I was doing that, but they are only where I right click. Should I just right click exactly where I want them, or is there  a way to move them?
[02:29] <sneex> ty ty =)
[02:29] <__mikem> Well, I was going to recomend a good book I am reading about linux, but if you don't like to read, I won't bother
[02:29] <amphi> Pmafia: you'll need to read if you want to build drivers
[02:29] <amphi> Pmafia: several compilers and interpreters
[02:30] <bimberi> scorchsaber: oh sorry, right click on the applet and select move
[02:30] <scorchsaber> bimberi: Thanks
[02:30] <noisy_1> is there a built-in c++ compiler?
[02:30] <bobbyd> Pmafia, I've never needed to build a kernel since I started using ubuntu...
[02:30] <__mikem> noisy_1
[02:30] <bobbyd> noisy_1, apt-get install build-essential
[02:30] <bimberi> noisy_1: no, but if you install build-essential you'll get one
[02:30] <Pmafia> i dont even know what a kernel is lol
[02:30] <noisy_1> k
[02:30] <Jowi> Pmafia: easiest thing to locate drivers is first to see if it isn't included already by using this page: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ (then locate the hardware and driver and in a terminal type "sudo modprobe drivername")
[02:30] <__mikem> try apt-get install g++
[02:30] <theCore> Jowi: wierd ... I trying the Vesa driver, and now glxgears spin for 10 sec! wooho
[02:30] <Pmafia> so hopefully i wont have to deal with it
[02:30] <bobbyd> Pmafia, don't find out unless you need to :)
[02:30] <robertj> are there any window managers that will let you pin windows to each other?
[02:30] <Pmafia> lol
[02:30] <Jowi> theCore: bizarre man. really.
[02:30] <Pmafia> you guys are going to see me in here alot
[02:31] <scorchsaber> bimberi: THank you very much
[02:31] <robertj> I'd love to pin the dia toolbar to the diagram I am working on to the head of the guy...
[02:31] <bimberi> scorchsaber: np :)
[02:31] <Pmafia> which uses more resources, linux ubuntu or windows xp?
[02:31] <__mikem> linux and ubuntu are the same thing
[02:31] <noisy_1> pin the tail window on the donkey window
[02:31] <__mikem> but windows uses more regardless
[02:31] <Pmafia> yes i know
[02:31] <amphi> Pmafia: linux uses all my RAM all the time ;)
[02:31] <Pmafia> really?
[02:31] <Pmafia> or you kidding?
[02:32] <bimberi> robertj: annoys you too eh? :)
[02:32] <Jowi> Pmafia: luckily, you rarely have to download drivers as you do for windows.
[02:32] <AkariChan> __mikem almost, ubuntu is a flavor of linux but linux is not ubuntu :D
[02:32] <amphi> Pmafia: yeah, of course, I didn't buy it for it to be idle ;)
[02:32] <AkariChan> lol
[02:32] <robertj> bimberi: but seriously is there a way to pin windows together?
[02:32] <__mikem> yes, but the way he stated it, I don't think he realized that AkariChan
[02:32] <sneex> i have Apche 2.2.2 compiled on a UbuntuPPC with mod_security   --  if anyone else has PPC let me know.
[02:32] <robertj> I don't want it ontop exactly...
[02:32] <Pmafia> isnt ubuntu free?
[02:32] <AkariChan> __mikem ah,
[02:32] <__mikem> Yup
[02:32] <noisy_1> yes
[02:32] <bimberi> robertj: idk sorry :|
[02:32] <AkariChan> yep
[02:32] <AkariChan> im downloading it now
[02:32] <Pmafia> "Pmafia: linux uses all my RAM all the time ;)" i dont get it
[02:32] <__mikem> So is fedora core, but ubuntu is better, more stable
[02:32] <AkariChan> 86%
[02:32] <amphi> Pmafia: it uses memory not needed by programs for caching files
[02:32] <noisy_1> ubuntu is good for pretty much anything
[02:33] <dj-fu> It's supposed to use your ram.
[02:33] <AkariChan> fc is nice, but ubuntu is good i heard
[02:33] <dj-fu> Linux actually knows how to manage ram, unlike our friend Windows
[02:33] <__mikem> AkariChan, what distro are you using right now
[02:33] <noisy_1> great desktop environment. Good support. And it can be installed as a minimal server system
[02:33] <AkariChan> fc and slack, mandriva on my centrino 0.6Ghz
[02:33] <__mikem> Windows is no friend of mine
[02:33] <chatboy> !mp3
[02:33] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:33] <AkariChan> (it's a 1.6 but i underclock it all the time, i don't need the power on linux)
[02:33] <noisy_1> windows is great! ... for about 2 hours
[02:34] <hondadarrell> how do i add a public key for a custom repo?
[02:34] <__mikem> lol @ noisy_1
[02:34] <AkariChan> hondadarrell man gpg
[02:34] <scorchsaber> Windows is cool for games, and for .NET and stuff. But now I use Python, so its pretty much only games now
[02:34] <ReWT_AxS> What program can I get where I can  block access to a certain website?
[02:34] <scorchsaber> That and 3D editing
[02:34] <dingus9> how do you tell ubuntu live to not use an existing swap partition
[02:34] <__mikem> AkariChan you should definitely try ubuntu. Its stable, and it gets the job done
[02:35] <theCore> hondadarrell: use apt-key
[02:35] <noisy_1> does that frontend firewall dealie do that?
[02:35] <hondadarrell> thank you theCore
[02:35] <amphi> Pmafia: the kernel has had 10 hours of cpu time in the last 59 days
[02:35] <noisy_1> firestarter
[02:35] <aeon17x> ReWT_AxS: I think you can do that in the hosts file, like you can in windows.
[02:35] <theCore> hondadarrell: np
[02:35] <AkariChan> __mikem yeah i tried so many distro, deb (never got it installed properly); suse (best of all that i used so far, but no updates = crap), rh (not free), fc (my wirelesscard = junk, and occasional freeze), mandriva (urpmi = baaad)
[02:35] <ReWT_AxS> aeon17x....how?
[02:35] <amphi> Pmafia: not too greedy
[02:36] <noisy_1> aeon, does firestarter have configuration for that sort of thing?
[02:36] <Pmafia> :)
[02:36] <AkariChan> so im gonna give this u bun too a try
[02:36] <bryanl> quick poll... webalizer or awstats?
[02:36] <aeon17x> noisy_1: not sure, last time I checked I used it for blocking ports.
[02:36] <Pmafia> so in a nutshell which uses more resources causes more lag, ubuntu or winxp?
[02:36] <noisy_1> k
[02:36] <noisy_1> xp
[02:36] <__mikem> My dad uses suse at work. It is true that Ubuntu is a debian dirivative, but the install process is prety streight forward, and should be uneventful, I say just give it a try
[02:37] <amphi> Pmafia: linux uses your hw more efficiently, I believe
[02:37] <AkariChan> __mikem i shall, 95% done
[02:37] <Pmafia> can you play steam counter strike on ubuntu? and other games?
[02:37] <theCore> hondadarrell:  gpg --export --armor SOMEKEY | sudo apt-key add -
[02:37] <scorchsaber> Pmafia: Generally, no
[02:37] <__mikem> As for me, the one reason I never could get into fedora is because I don't want to be a guini pig for RHEL
[02:37] <AkariChan> Pmafia u can technically
[02:37] <noisy_1> my k-6 @ 333mhz is more responsive than my A64 4000+ on xp
[02:37] <AkariChan> i got wine to work with cs
[02:37] <ReWT_AxS> there isnt a program i can get to block websites?
[02:37] <scorchsaber> Pmafia: You might want to try Cedega though
[02:37] <__mikem> whats cs?
[02:37] <scorchsaber> !Cedega
[02:37] <scorchsaber> damn
[02:37] <Pmafia> cedega?
[02:37] <AkariChan> counterstrike
[02:37] <amphi> Pmafia: people seem to play windows games on linux (I'm not one of them), dunno how painful it is
[02:37] <__mikem> I use cedega,
[02:38] <AkariChan> windows games
[02:38] <scorchsaber> It's like Wine, only for directX
[02:38] <noisy_1> akarichan, HOW?
[02:38] <aeon17x> ReWT_AxS: the hosts file is /etc/hosts
[02:38] <AkariChan> noisy_1 and others: use wine
[02:38] <__mikem> THe only reason I use cedega is to run bejeweled right now
[02:38] <aeon17x> ReWT_AxS: just add entries to it that point to 127.0.0.1.
[02:38] <AkariChan> i had a lot of 3d games like unreal tournament running
[02:38] <amphi> Pmafia: they should be coding and/or bug fixing IMHO ;)
[02:38] <AkariChan> but new ones like oblivion, i doubt it
[02:38] <noisy_1> wine can run it? ... I thought wine was only for simple exes
[02:38] <scorchsaber> AkariChan: You can get that for linux native you know
[02:38] <bimberi> ReWT_AxS: dansguardian
[02:38] <bryanl> hello?
[02:38] <AkariChan> scorchsaber yeah i find that out later, 3rd cd
[02:39] <theCore> AkariChan: do you use a non-us keymap ?
[02:39] <AkariChan> noisy_1 yeah i was surprised too
[02:39] <ReWT_AxS> bimberi, sudo apt-get install dansguardian
[02:39] <ReWT_AxS> ?
[02:39] <__mikem> AkariChan, never tried those games, but as I said, bejeweled should work right out of the box on cedega
[02:39] <AkariChan> theCore G15
[02:39] <amphi> !poll
[02:39] <ubotu> [poll]  asking a question to figure out who is running what in a channel with over 500 in is of questionable value - given that someone wrote something somewhere somewhere is most likely running it, is there anything specific you wanted to ask?
[02:39] <blindx> Anyone in here familiar with the program "translucy" for Mac?
[02:39] <daaku> anyone running dapper see odd total CPU usage in top?
[02:39] <AkariChan> __mikem i shall give cedega a try
[02:39] <noisy_1> cadega = $$ though doesn't it?
[02:39] <bimberi> ReWT_AxS: yep (if universe is enabled)
[02:39] <scorchsaber> __mikem: Id use bejeweled for stuff like WoW
[02:39] <ReWT_AxS> yep it's downloading
[02:39] <ReWT_AxS> :)
[02:39] <AkariChan> is bejeweled a wrapper
[02:39] <amphi> daaku: what process is eating cpu?
[02:39] <aeon17x> ReWT_AxS: for example, if you want to block doubleclick, you add "127.0.0.1 ad.doubleclick.net"
[02:39] <Pmafia> so how can i play games, doom or coutner strike on ubuntu!
[02:39] <__mikem> before you go and buy cedega, consider compiling it from source from cvs
[02:40] <AkariChan> __mikem and try it?
[02:40] <hollywoodb> Pmafia: cedega, doom has native client
[02:40] <ReWT_AxS> aeonon if im trying to block myspace?
[02:40] <theCore> AkariChan: because you're sending the 0095 char everytime your TAB someone
[02:40] <amphi> __mikem: cvs source is free (as in beer)?
[02:40] <daaku> amphi: i have the processes sorted by CPU usage, and at times the total usage says 45-50% but the processes report much smaller numbers
[02:40] <noisy_1> how might I run Half-Life 2 on linux?
[02:40] <noisy_1> without paying money
[02:40] <amphi> daaku: what about sys above?
[02:40] <AkariChan> theCore i am using winblows now
[02:40] <__mikem> I used cvs to get cedega, its difficult, but its worth it not to buy a subscription
[02:40] <AkariChan> scripted irc crap
[02:40] <aeon17x> ReWT_AxS: then just add "127.0.0.1 www.myspace.com"
[02:41] <daaku> amphi: sys is more accurate, shows smaller numbers
[02:41] <theCore> AkariChan: ah, 
[02:41] <AkariChan> __mikem neat
[02:41] <amphi> __mikem: heh - luckily I'm not a gamer
[02:41] <ReWT_AxS> aeonon...what would the exact thing be/?
[02:41] <aeon17x> ReWT_AxS: you can read more about it here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HOSTS_file
[02:41] <AkariChan>  i love this (sorry won't abuse again)
[02:41] <__mikem> !cedega
[02:41] <scorchsaber> amphi: You're missing out
[02:41] <blindx> rewt_axs haha that's clever.
[02:41] <noisy_1> is there a free cadega-like utility?
[02:41] <daaku> amphi: i'm not sure its something to worry about, since system performance doesnt seem to be affected, but its odd none-the-less
[02:41] <Pmafia> hey the core
[02:42] <Pmafia> thanks bro, i got my internet working with those commands
[02:42] <theCore> Pmafia: yes?
[02:42] <nickrud> gaim! this is what they give me?
[02:42] <__mikem> I aint really a gamer either
[02:42] <amphi> daaku: what's the load average?
[02:42] <Pmafia> im on ubuntu right now
[02:42] <sevtastic> hey, anyone here using xgl and compiz? i just got it running and i get some render stuttering/pauses in animation when manipulating my windows.
[02:42] <theCore> Pmafia: uh? which commands?
[02:42] <daaku> amphi: 0
[02:42] <AkariChan|ubuntu> burning ubuntu now
[02:42] <AkariChan|ubuntu> i'll get on here with my lappy, brb guys
[02:42] <Thinjon100> Does anyone know why the Administration screens (like Network Administration) start loading, then simply vanish?
[02:42] <Pmafia> "sudo ppoeconf"
[02:42] <amphi> daaku: sounds good ;)
[02:42] <daaku> amphi: 0, 0.04, 0.08
[02:42] <daaku> amphi: i guess i'm gonna let it be unless i see issues
[02:43] <theCore> Pmafia: it wasn't me :)
[02:43] <noisy_1> akari, burn to RW
[02:43] <Pmafia> thanks anyways :D
[02:43] <AkariChan|ubuntu> meh, 1 cd =) i can take the plunge
[02:43] <noisy_1> :O what if it messes up?
[02:43] <Pmafia> so you have to pay for cedega? can you download it off bit torrent?
[02:43] <noisy_1> lol, we don't condone piracy
[02:43] <AkariChan|ubuntu> meh, i'll loose 890 gb of stuff.
[02:43] <Jowi> Pmafia: there is a howto on how to get steam and cs going here: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Steam&back=HOWTO+INDEX+Wine+Games
[02:43] <AkariChan|ubuntu> Current Drive Storage Status. I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n
[02:43] <AkariChan|ubuntu> Drive C of 40.0GB has 23.9GB free. Drive D of 189GB has 4.04GB free. Drive E of 189GB has 16.4GB free. Drive F of 74.3GB has 31.3GB free. Drive V of 5.86GB has 817MB free. Drive X of 465GB has 285GB free. Drive Z of 27.6GB has 26.1GB free.
[02:43] <AkariChan|ubuntu> Total Storage: 993GB  Total Used: 605GB  Total Free: 387GB
[02:44] <AkariChan|ubuntu> argh sorry -_-
[02:44] <noisy_1> ahhh!! spam!!
[02:44] <Pmafia> thanks bro
[02:44] <sevtastic> hey, anyone here using xgl and compiz? i just got it running and i get some render stuttering/pauses in animation when manipulating my windows.
[02:44] <AkariChan|ubuntu> =)
[02:44] <Thinjon100> Can anyone help me?
[02:44] <AkariChan|ubuntu> something close to this is only sysinfo eh? in xchat
[02:44] <sinnerg> You guys happy now ;p
[02:45] <sinnerg> I got ubuntu installed now
[02:45] <AkariChan|ubuntu> yay!
[02:45] <sinnerg> but I lost my winxp partition in the process ;p
[02:45] <noisy_1> so, is there a utility like cadega that can run DX that doesn't cost dollars?
[02:45] <sinnerg> containing c# code I worked all week on :p
[02:45] <noisy_1> of course you lost it
[02:45] <Jowi> sevtastic: try #ubuntu-xgl
[02:45] <theCore> sinnerg: what a luck! ;p
[02:45] <noisy_1> you didn't think that was going to happen?
[02:45] <sevtastic> Jowi, thanks
[02:45] <amphi> sinnerg: c#? good riddance ;)
[02:45] <blindx> Would this be proper syntax for /etc/fstab  ?? /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ext3 rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[02:45] <sinnerg> lol, I did leave some space for windows tho.. but I do not intend to install it atm :p
[02:45] <ReWT_AxS> woot worked
[02:45] <ReWT_AxS> thanks guys
[02:45] <twb> Anybody know what package provides pam_smb?
[02:45] <theCore> sinnerg: ouch
[02:45] <sinnerg> c# => I'm having troubles learning c/c++
[02:45] <AkariChan> hi there
[02:46] <AkariChan> <- laptop
[02:46] <sinnerg> I learned alot in 4 weeks (@ c#)
[02:46] <Thinjon100> Can anyone even see me typing?
[02:46] <amphi> sinnerg: c is knowable, c++ isn't ;)
[02:46] <twb> Thinjon100: no.
[02:46] <yanis> hi
[02:46] <noisy_1> I think a 5-year-old could learn Basic
[02:46] <theCore> sinnerg: there's C# support for Ubuntu, by the way
[02:46] <noisy_1> try that
[02:46] <NickGarvey> Thinjon100: what? what did your message say?
[02:46] <yanis> I get this when I try to configure a program
[02:46] <yanis> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[02:46] <yanis> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[02:46] <yanis> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[02:46] <mattyJ> hrmm, im having some problems with the latest dapper update, it hangs on loading essential drivers, older kernel works fine though
[02:46] <yanis> what should I do?
[02:46] <sinnerg> theCore: doesnt matter, I did lose 240GB of data - but only that 200KB of code I lost => thats bad
[02:46] <twb> noisy_1: but would a five year old *want* to learn Basic?
[02:46] <AkariChan|ubuntu> ouch
[02:46] <sinnerg> I can start all over :p
[02:46] <Pmafia> i found that
[02:47] <Pmafia> very confusing about getting cs to work with linux
[02:47] <Pmafia> lol
[02:47] <sinnerg> theCore : Mono, I know :p
[02:47] <noisy_1> no, but neither would a stoner
[02:47] <Thinjon100> I'm jsut trying to ask questions and nobody responds... since the channel subject says I must register I thought perhaps I was invisible... I've tried registering but nothing has changed
[02:47] <NickGarvey> Thinjon100: heh what do you need, don't ask if you can ask
[02:47] <AkariChan|ubuntu> guys, kde or gnome?
[02:47] <noisy_1> no
[02:47] <amphi> Thinjon100: perhaps no one has an answer
[02:47] <yanis> AkariChan|ubuntu: kde
[02:47] <noisy_1> dont start the kde vs gnome wars again
[02:47] <twb> AkariChan|ubuntu: Ratpoison!
[02:47] <NickGarvey> AkariChan|ubuntu: try them both
[02:47] <NickGarvey> !war
[02:47] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[02:47] <FlannelKing> !offtopic
[02:47] <amphi> AkariChan|ubuntu: neither
[02:47] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[02:47] <Pmafia> which one is ubuntu?
[02:47] <AkariChan|ubuntu> ratpoison?
[02:47] <Pmafia> kde or gnome?
[02:47] <noisy_1> fluxbox!
[02:47] <twb> http://ratpoison.sf.net
[02:47] <blindx> I like gnome. >_>
[02:47] <amphi> Pmafia: ubuntu uses gnome
[02:47] <blindx> fluxbox ftw!
[02:48] <noisy_1> hehe
[02:48] <Pmafia> i like gnome :)
[02:48] <Thinjon100> I jsut wasn't sure if I was doing something wrong
[02:48] <AkariChan|ubuntu> i love fluxbox
[02:48] <AkariChan|ubuntu> now that u mention it i haven;t touch that for a LONG time
[02:48] <theCore> Pmafia: gnome,
[02:48] <NickGarvey> !war is <reply> desktop/editor/anything wars belong in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:48] <ubotu> NickGarvey: okay
[02:48] <twb> fluxbox is too bloated :P
[02:48] <amphi> AkariChan|ubuntu: I prefer openbox, it's less buggy
[02:48] <Jowi> Thinjon100: you need to ask a specific question "can someone help" is not gonna give you any answers :)
[02:48] <noisy_1> there's a better alternative to all though... Command Line Interface
[02:48] <NickGarvey> !war =~ s/<reply> /<reply>/
[02:48] <ubotu> NickGarvey: OK
[02:48] <amphi> noisy_1: yeah, fb console & screen
[02:48] <AkariChan|ubuntu> hmm
[02:49] <Thinjon100> Actually, I did... Does anyone know why the Administration screens (like Network Administration) start loading, then simply vanish?
[02:49] <AkariChan|ubuntu> this one's going ubuntu, see u later!
[02:49] <twb> Ratpoison emulates screen on X11.
[02:49] <Pmafia> what is WINE?
[02:49] <twb> Pmafia: something users do.
[02:49] <AkariChan> something that goes with cheese
[02:49] <noisy_1> but yeah, its all in preference. Try Gnome Try KDE, eventually learn that flux is better, its up to you
[02:49] <NickGarvey> !tell Pmafia about wine
[02:49] <theCore> Pmafia: a windows emulator
[02:49] <jadaz87> hello is running apt-get install linux-image-686 wise on ubuntu?
[02:49] <amphi> Pmafia: 'wine is not an emulator' ;) it provides [a subset of]  the win32 api under linux
[02:49] <mattyJ> is anyone else having problems with the latest dapper kernel? i get kernel panic - not syncing only on the latest kernel
[02:49] <Jowi> Thinjon100: if you start it in a terminal "sudo network-admin" it might give you some errors, check if you do.
[02:49] <FlannelKing> jadaz87: if you've got a 686 proccessor
[02:49] <NickGarvey> theCore: Wine Is Not an Emulator
[02:49] <bobbyd> Pmafia, a way to run Windows programes under Linux. It stands for Wine is not an emulator
[02:50] <NickGarvey> :-P
[02:50] <theCore> NickGarvey: :)
[02:50] <jadaz87> FlannelKing what whould it do (btw i have a Mobile Pentium 4 2.66)
[02:50] <AkariChan> hmm
[02:50] <Pmafia> generally speaking, i just download watch movies, mp3's and word
[02:50] <Jowi> !tell mattyJ about dapper
[02:50] <Pmafia> can linux do all these no problem?
[02:50] <AkariChan> ubuntu has terminal graphics ><
[02:50] <_jason> Pmafia: yep
[02:50] <amphi> jadaz87: 686 will be fine
[02:50] <Xenguy> Pmafia: yep
[02:50] <zcat[1] > wine doesn't emulate; it runs the windows code natively and translates the API's
[02:50] <FlannelKing> jadaz87: it allows the kernel to use commands that are 686 specific, not 386 only.
[02:50] <bobbyd> Pmafia, yes
[02:50] <Pmafia> do i have to download codecs for ubuntu?
[02:50] <Pmafia> for video?
[02:50] <AkariChan> yes.
[02:50] <_jason> Pmafia: yep
[02:50] <FlannelKing> !troll
[02:50] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, FlannelKing
[02:50] <NickGarvey> !tell Pmafia about restrictedformats
[02:50] <Thinjon100> what is the easiest way to run terminal? I don't see it in the menu
[02:50] <_jason> ubotu: tell Pmafia about multimedia
[02:50] <Xenguy> !terminal
[02:50] <bimberi> !codecs
[02:51] <mattyJ> Jowi: thanks for not helping
[02:51] <NickGarvey> Thinjon100: under applicaations
[02:51] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[02:51] <amphi> !terminal
[02:51] <NickGarvey> !tell mattyJ about patience
[02:51] <zcat[1] > !easysource
[02:51] <noisy_1> I can smell lasagne cooking. It smells meaty and cheesy and delicious.
[02:51] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:51] <Thinjon100> ahh, Accessories... thanks
[02:51] <theCore> NickGarvey: you need to understand how to interpret recursive acronymes ;P
[02:51] <FlannelKing> Thinjon100: ctrl-f2 (or is it alt? I don't use a GUI, I dont remember)
[02:51] <Xenguy> !tell Thinjon100 about terminal
[02:51] <Jowi> mattyJ: as I hoped you would see from the message ubotu sent you: /join #ubuntu+1 for discussions/troubleshooting dapper
[02:51] <_jason> mattyJ: he did help you, he told you the right place to go for dapper help
[02:51] <NickGarvey> mattyJ: after you take the rudeness down a notch, you will notice your in the wrong channel
[02:51] <jadaz87> flannelking should i uninstall linux-image-386?
[02:52] <kanenas_> r there any drivers for usb tv cards?
[02:52] <noisy_1> kan, probably
[02:52] <mattyJ> he could of just told me that, instead of some dumb script
[02:52] <Thinjon100> hrmm... sudo network-admin asked for my password, which I entered... thne it did nothing and went back to prompt
[02:52] <amphi> jadaz87: might be better to boot the new kernel first
[02:52] <jadaz87> amphi oh ok
[02:52] <joshr> how do i install vlc media player?
[02:52] <_jason> mattyJ: you could have read the topic too
[02:52] <FlannelKing> jadaz87: it won't hurt anything.  And you definately shouldn't uninstall it until you've rebooted into 686, and ran it for a few days (to make sure you don't have problems)
[02:52] <NickGarvey> mattyJ: or.. you could read it and stop being rude to a volunteer..
[02:52] <noisy_1> matty, you have to understand that typing something over and over to many different people is stressful
[02:52] <Jowi> mattyJ: it gets old after you've typed it 100 times, that's why
[02:52] <noisy_1> the bot helps
[02:52] <jadaz87> flannelking amphi oh ok thanks guy going for reboot
[02:52] <noisy_1> plus it keeps advice in pms
[02:53] <chatboy> !nvu
[02:53] <ubotu> nvu is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.
[02:53] <NickGarvey> !!good bot
[02:53] <ubotu> thanks nickgarvey :)
[02:53] <amphi> !botsnack
[02:53] <sinnerg> I love my 20mbit line ^^
[02:53] <ubotu> :)
[02:53] <mattyJ> guys im frustraited with this, sorry for being mean
[02:53] <noisy_1> what's the problem?
[02:53] <sinnerg> upgrading to breezy atm
[02:53] <sinnerg> then dapper :p
[02:53] <Jowi> mattyJ: no probs. but join #ubuntu+1 :)
[02:53] <sinnerg> or should I wait with dapper?
[02:53] <NickGarvey> sinnerg: its beta, your call
[02:53] <joshr> how do i install vlc media palyer?
[02:53] <NickGarvey> !tell joshr about vlc
[02:54] <noisy_1> apt-get install?
[02:54] <daddius> hey are there c++ man pages around?
[02:54] <_jason> joshr: enable universe and sudo apt-get install vlc
[02:54] <Pmafia> um guys for the codecs: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies
[02:54] <Pmafia> isnt working
[02:54] <sinnerg> yeah I know its beta, but are there any known problems? maybe someone have a url with a list of themN
[02:54] <sinnerg> ?
[02:54] <NickGarvey> Pmafia: what do you mean?
[02:54] <Pmafia> that website isnt working for me
[02:54] <Thinjon100> ok... I ran su and /then/ network-admin worked... for some reason it didn't under sudo.  Does anyone know a good resource to check on how to install my Airlink WIreless NIC?
[02:54] <kanenas_> i need drivers for my tv card
[02:54] <amphi> Pmafia: "isn't working" is not a useful error report
[02:54] <NickGarvey> Pmafia: what kind of not working?
[02:54] <joshr> thanks, i didnt see it in synaptec tha is why i wa asking
[02:54] <joshr> i also have universe enabled
[02:54] <Pmafia> connection refused
[02:54] <NickGarvey> joshr: did apt-get install do it?
[02:55] <joshr> trying right now
[02:55] <amphi> Pmafia: you can't get the url you pasted?
[02:55] <AkariChan> hmm the partition tool is quite confusing
[02:55] <Pmafia> no i cant...
[02:55] <NickGarvey> Pmafia: where did you get that link?
[02:55] <Pmafia> you pasted to me from ubotu
[02:55] <NickGarvey> Pmafia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:55] <Silverwizard> Anyone know how to hook up a printer on a Windows network onto a linux machine
[02:55] <amphi> Pmafia: nope, doesn't load here
[02:56] <joshr> it is installing now
[02:56] <AkariChan> is there any reason to separate /home and /?
[02:56] <joshr> thanks
[02:56] <NickGarvey> joshr: :)
[02:56] <Pmafia> jason actually gave it to me
[02:56] <Pmafia> u _jason wants you to know: methinks multimedia is for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[02:56] <NickGarvey> AkariChan: what do you mean seperate?
[02:56] <zcat[1] > AkariChan: makes backups and reinstalls easier
[02:56] <amphi> AkariChan: yes - /home is a very Good Thing(TM)
[02:56] <hondadarrell> is there a  way to reinstall dapper?
[02:56] <AkariChan> 2 different partions and mount point
[02:56] <amphi> AkariChan: separate /home, that is
[02:56] <Thinjon100> Will I have to use something like ndiswrapper to get my wireless NIC working?  Is ndiswrapper something I can easily download from apt-get?
[02:56] <AkariChan> hmm, never thought of that. true.
[02:56] <amphi> Thinjon100: what nic?
[02:56] <noisy_1> you should delete C:/
[02:56] <AkariChan> maybe i sholud separate /root as well
[02:56] <NickGarvey> AkariChan: I have 2 different hard drives.. so I can have a lot of linux distros with the same data
[02:57] <NickGarvey> AkariChan: that's a reason
[02:57] <AkariChan> nick: ahhh
[02:57] <Thinjon100> amphi: Airlink AWLH4030 Wireless PCI Adapter
[02:57] <bimberi> !wireless
[02:57] <ubotu> wireless is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[02:57] <amphi> AkariChan: no, /root should be mounted when only / is mounted
[02:57] <zcat[1] > AkariChan: if you have anything important in /root, you're using it wrong :)
[02:57] <_jason> Pmafia: help.ubuntu.com seems to be down, I think the same info is in system > help somewhere (multimedia codecs section)
[02:57] <amphi> Thinjon100: I have no idea about that I'm afraid
[02:57] <bimberi> Thinjon100: check to see if it's listed there ^^^^
[02:57] <noisy_1> I've been transferring media for 4 1/2 hours
[02:57] <Pmafia> oh
[02:57] <AkariChan> zcat: true uusually i just su and do compilations
[02:57] <Thinjon100> Thanks, I'll check those sites
[02:57] <noisy_1> hdb-hda
[02:57] <Pmafia> is it a lot of work to get codecs to work in ubuntu?
[02:57] <noisy_1> hope not
[02:57] <noisy_1> I plan to
[02:58] <amphi> Pmafia: no, not once you have the necessary repos in your sources.list
[02:58] <Thinjon100> And has anyone tried to get multi-monitor working under nVidia drivers? I just installed the latest nvidia drivers for my 7800GT but I don't see any option to enable multi-monitor support
[02:58] <AkariChan> does it have any xorg preinstalled for ubuntu?
[02:58] <Pmafia> what a sources.list?
[02:58] <ramza3> how do I keep my 'xset dpms ...' settings, they seem to be lost when I reboot
[02:58] <zcat[1] > Thinjon100: tried and failed. :-9
[02:58] <CPUFreak91> I abenstmindedly installed the ATI drivers, when the laptop that I installed ubuntu on uses an S3 video card. How can I restart the auto configuring of X?
[02:58] <Pmafia> first on linux, sorry :)
[02:58] <amphi> ramza3: stick the command in ~/.xsession
[02:58] <Pmafia> first day**
[02:58] <zcat[1] > CPUFreak91: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:59] <amphi> !tell Pmafia about sources
[02:59] <CPUFreak91> zcat[1] : thanks
[02:59] <noisy_1> no sudo if you're root
[02:59] <bimberi> Pmafia: /etc/apt/sources.list is the the list of repositories from where you can install software packages using apt tools (such as Synaptic)
[02:59] <zcat[1] > sudo doesn't hurt.. if you're root it'll do nothing :)
[02:59] <noisy_1> less typing : /
[02:59] <Pmafia> i have a lot to learn dont i lol
[02:59] <AkariChan> cool ,i can run amd64 distro on this badass destop ^^
[02:59] <NullVector> can anyone help me get the w32codecs and install them for amd64?
[02:59] <Pmafia> synpatic is a installer?
[03:00] <NickGarvey> NullVector: mm get 32 bit mplayer and stuff..
[03:00] <noisy_1> Pmafia, I just started linux a week ago and I'm already nearly finished my file server
[03:00] <bimberi> Pmafia: yes ...
[03:00] <bimberi> !tell Pmafia about synaptic
[03:00] <zcat[1] > do w32codecs work in amd64? I know they don't work in ppc :)
[03:00] <noisy_1> running samba and swat
[03:00] <ramza3> amphi, I dont have an .xession file, create it?
[03:00] <noisy_1> this irc network has been a great help
[03:00] <Pmafia> wha ti want to know is
[03:00] <Pmafia> is ubuntu really worth it
[03:00] <noisy_1> ubuntu is very nice
[03:00] <amphi> ramza3: yeah
[03:00] <Pmafia> to transfer from windows, because it seems like a lot of work
[03:00] <AkariChan> hm, ubuntu has no package choice?
[03:01] <AkariChan> it din't prompt me
[03:01] <mjr> zcat[1] , not with 64-bit players, but you can run a 32-bit player if you like. Might require some twiddling. And I'm going to bed now.
[03:01] <amphi> Pmafia: worth what?
[03:01] <NullVector> NickGarvey: are you saying there is no way to install the w32codecs on a amd64?
[03:01] <sybariten> i just tried to install oem-config-locale
[03:01] <noisy_1> akarichan, used to debian?
[03:01] <Pmafia> to tranfer from windows
[03:01] <sybariten> and it asked me to insert the CD
[03:01] <zcat[1] > Pmafia: depends why you want to swicth. For most people it's probably not worth it..
[03:01] <sybariten> any explanation to that? why cant it DL from the net?
[03:01] <AkariChan> not at all . my last attempt faliled during installation.'
[03:01] <sybariten> (using sudo apt-get install
[03:01] <sybariten> )
[03:01] <NickGarvey> !aptcd
[03:01] <ubotu> to turn off apt-get from trying to install from the cd, comment out the line (put a # in front of it) that says "deb cdrom:"
[03:01] <ramza3> Pmafia: I still wouldn't mind my win32 system for compability, but I have probably done 5 ubuntu installs
[03:01] <IceTox> Hey! I've got a problem with totem since day one.. Sems it's not capable to play anything.. Especially this problem comes when I wanna see movie clips on the internet, or listen to music online. Can anyone please check it out and tell how to fix it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12815
[03:01] <sybariten> ubotu: oh, so that is there per default ?
[03:01] <Jowi> zcat[1] : the restrictedformats page has got a workaround for it it seems
[03:01] <NickGarvey> !tell sybariten about aptcd
[03:01] <ubotu> sybariten: what are you talking about?
[03:01] <jadaz87> hello i was wondering i installed kubuntu-desktop and the bootup progress splash changed but the login has not and i checked under System>Admin>Login Screen Setup and there is no kubuntulogin
[03:01] <NickGarvey> sybariten: oh that's a ot
[03:02] <amphi> Pmafia: only you can say - you'll have to do some work before you can make a meaningful comparison
[03:02] <NickGarvey> sybariten: that's a bot*
[03:02] <Pmafia> true
[03:02] <rukuartic> Anyone have a good way of capturing video and putting it into .avi format?
[03:02] <NickGarvey> sybariten: yes it is, just comment out or delete the line
[03:02] <_jason> is there a correspond factoid for !aptcd with synaptic instructions?
[03:02] <zcat[1] > rukuartic: mencoder
[03:02] <Xenguy> Pmafia: get the live cd and take it for a test drive
[03:02] <sybariten> NickGarvey: hahaha OK, i was talking to a bot
[03:02] <NickGarvey> _jason: I doubt it, I wrote !aptcd
[03:02] <amphi> Pmafia: freedom from viruses and malware should be a fairly instant plus
[03:02] <Pmafia> does anybody know what the minimum and recoomendded requirements for XGL is? im already on ubuntu xenguy
[03:02] <jadaz87> hello i was wondering i installed kubuntu-desktop and the bootup progress splash changed but the login has not and i checked under System>Admin>Login Screen Setup and there is no kubuntulogin also the whole ubuntu color scheme is still brown :-\
[03:02] <sybariten> NickGarvey: interesting that it chooses CD before the net , so to speak
[03:02] <NickGarvey> Pmafia: 364 ram is the min
[03:02] <Pmafia> what about video card?
[03:03] <NickGarvey> Pmafia: no idea :)
[03:03] <amphi> Pmafia: 32mb ram IIRC
[03:03] <rukuartic> zcat[1] : I basically have a real media file I want to convert to AVI... video capturing seems like the easiest route
[03:03] <Pmafia> i got x300 256pcie
[03:03] <NullVector> _jason: if I uninstall mplayer64 and install the mplayeri386 version, will the w32codecs install?
[03:03] <Pmafia> is that enough?
[03:03] <FlannelKing> Pmafia: it should have 3d accel
[03:03] <AkariChan> pmafia plenty
[03:03] <Pmafia> nice
[03:03] <_jason> NullVector: if you use a chroot
[03:03] <AkariChan> my x850xt runs on it
[03:03] <NickGarvey> Pmafia: 32 ram for xgl?  I was reading the korarra (spelling) faqs today
[03:03] <AkariChan> 256 as well.
[03:03] <Pmafia> i just need to learn how to use linux, codecs, WINE, games, ect...
[03:03] <zcat[1] > rukuartic: mencoder + w32codecs will convert anything it has a codec for to any other format.. takes a little reading up the manpage though
[03:04] <rukuartic> zcat[1] : its a streaming file =\
[03:04] <zcat[1] > mplayer --dumpstream :)
[03:04] <rukuartic> Nice
[03:04] <_jason> !aptcd is also in synaptic, go to settings > repositories and disable the cdrom repository
[03:04] <ubotu> okay, _jason
[03:04] <amphi> Pmafia: there's a useful 'introduction to linux' book you can download from tldp.org
[03:04] <Pmafia> whats the shortcut to talk to somebody in IRC, like...   PMAFIA: there's useless ect..
[03:04] <AkariChan> type first few letters + tab
[03:04] <rukuartic> zcat[1] : Whats k6 and custom opposed to 586
[03:05] <amphi> Pmafia: type the first letters and hit tab
[03:05] <sesstreets> You know one thing Ive noticed so far about ubuntu is that it manages my resources WAY better than windows
[03:05] <Pmafia> amphi, thanks
[03:05] <Pmafia> :)
[03:05] <FlannelKing> rukuartic: k- things are athlon, 586 is intel, theyre both older processors
[03:05] <sesstreets> Every 40 minutes my fan would wack out cause the cpu got too hot
[03:05] <rukuartic> sesstreets: Bingo ;)
[03:05] <rukuartic> FlannelKing: Thanks
[03:05] <Pmafia> you guys will see me alot around here from now on lol
[03:05] <amphi> Pmafia: if you use irssi, ther's a script that'll let you tab-complete every word ;)
[03:05] <sesstreets> It hasnt done it yet
[03:05] <AkariChan> sesstreets: any linux distro i can pretty much say manages ram better than windows
[03:05] <jadaz87> Flannelking amphi hello i was wondering i installed kubuntu-desktop and the bootup progress splash changed but the login has not and i checked under System>Admin>Login Screen Setup and there is no kubuntulogin
[03:05] <zcat[1] > I just use 586.. there are builds optimised for each chip but 386 or 586 is good enough for most
[03:05] <Thinjon100> what's the syntax to use terminal like an internet terminal? (connecting to a remote shell)
[03:05] <sesstreets> I think I have 800mb free out of 1024
[03:05] <Pmafia> for now im gunna go watch calgary anahiem hockey! thanks again for evberything guys, bye.
[03:06] <amphi> Thinjon100: ssh user@host
[03:06] <Thinjon100> thanks
[03:06] <AkariChan> i am so happy that my centrino 0.6 can run a raw 1920x1080 .tp raw mpeg2 with 0 lag
[03:06] <FlannelKing> jadaz87: eh? you switch at the login screen itself.  Itll be under the session tab thing.  If you want to use kdm (kde display manager) as opposed to gdm (those both are the login screen things) then youll have to reconfigure that
[03:06] <Pmafia> bye guys, thanks again
[03:06] <iwalker> .dns peercommons.com
[03:06] <NickGarvey> Pmafia: :)
[03:06] <AkariChan> np Pmafia
[03:06] <HaxoR91> where can i get a compiler and a editor for ubuntu?
[03:06] <jadaz87> flannelking how do i do that?
[03:06] <NickGarvey> HaxoR91: what knid of compiler?
[03:07] <HaxoR91> c++
[03:07] <rukuartic> zcat[1] : You wouldn't by chance happen to know the command to convert the .ram stream to .avi would you?
[03:07] <NickGarvey> HaxoR91: and what knid of editor ;)
[03:07] <AkariChan> gcc?
[03:07] <amphi> HaxoR91: vim/emacs and the build-essential package
[03:07] <HaxoR91> c++
[03:07] <FlannelKing> jadaz87: I dont know, I haven't used a display manager in ages
[03:07] <NickGarvey> HaxoR91: apt-get intstall build-essential
[03:07] <zcat[1] > HaxoR91: you already have nano and vi.. apt-get build-essentials will give you a compiler and stuff to go with it..
[03:07] <NickGarvey> wow my typing is garbage today!
[03:07] <sybariten> ok i just installed a package using apt, and i really cant figure out what kind of executable it installed. in other words, what to run. whats the first thing i want to check?
[03:07] <FlannelKing> jadaz87: theres a script for it though, itll ask what you want to use
[03:07] <AkariChan> vim is great i got gvim and got used to it even in windows
[03:07] <NickGarvey> sybariten: what did you install?
[03:07] <amphi> sybariten: dpkg -L <package_name> | grep bin
[03:07] <jadaz87> flannelking oh ok i need to find out where that script is
[03:07] <sybariten> the package was called oem-config-locale, but i dont have any executable called that, or localechooser
[03:07] <CPUFreak91> How do I uninstall the ati-drivers from the console? dpkg -r xserver-xorg?
[03:08] <ramza3> amphi, I created a ~/.xsession file and added that line ..dpms 1200 1200 ...now I can't get back login, "Session lasted less than 10 seconds, blah,blha"
[03:08] <NickGarvey> ramza3: oh I get that
[03:08] <IceTox> Hey! I've got a problem with totem since day one.. Sems it's not capable to play anything.. Especially this problem comes when I wanna see movie clips on the internet, or listen to music online. Can anyone please check it out and tell how to fix it? I've pasted the stream error in here -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12815
[03:08] <sybariten> amphi: thanks!
[03:08] <NickGarvey> ramza3: I have no idea what (if someone knows why please share), but a reboot fixes it
[03:08] <amphi> ramza3: switch to a VT and correct your .xsession
[03:08] <sybariten> interesting ... no binary!
[03:08] <NickGarvey> amphi: how do you correct it?
[03:08] <HaxoR91> that command doesnt work
[03:08] <NickGarvey> HaxoR91: what command?
[03:08] <NickGarvey> HaxoR91: pastebin it
[03:08] <HaxoR91> i did
[03:09] <NickGarvey> !tell HaxoR91 about pastebin
[03:09] <amphi> NickGarvey: edit the file in a console (alt-ctrl-f1 or whatever)
[03:09] <NickGarvey> amphi: I mean what do you need to do to it
[03:09] <jadaz87> does anyone know where the script for the kdm config is? so i can switch between kdm and gdm
[03:09] <amphi> NickGarvey: what's wrong with it?
[03:09] <NickGarvey> jadaz87: oh its called default-display-manager or something very simple, use a find command
[03:09] <amphi> NickGarvey: just delete it if you can't figure it out
[03:09] <HaxoR91> it doesnt work
[03:09] <HaxoR91> i get errors
[03:10] <NickGarvey> amphi: it is safe to delete it?
[03:10] <NickGarvey> HaxoR91: pastebin please
[03:10] <HaxoR91> E: Invalid operation build-essentials
[03:10] <chuenjiksatsauco> hi ppl
[03:10] <Jowi> IceTox: you're probably missing a whole bunch of plugins. open up synaptics and name search for "gstreamer".
[03:10] <chuenjiksatsauco> respect
[03:10] <zcat[1] > err build-essential perhaps:)
[03:10] <NickGarvey> HaxoR91: drop the s
[03:10] <NickGarvey> jadaz87: its in /etc/X11
[03:10] <amphi> NickGarvey: I don't know what you have in it - you could just undo whatever you did to break it. WAYTTD?
[03:10] <_jason> sesstreets: kingspawn is a fan of the other editor/operating system
[03:10] <_jason> bah that was suppose to be in ot
[03:10] <iwalker> Anyone know of a gnu port of the NSV stream?
[03:10] <zcat[1] > HaxoR91: you already have nano and vi.. 'apt-get install build-essential' will give you a compiler and stuff to go with it..
[03:10] <HaxoR91> still doesnt work
[03:10] <CPUFreak91> Will dpkg -r ati-drivers uninstall the ati drivers (I'm running with a S3 video card)?
[03:10] <HaxoR91> install
[03:10] <HaxoR91> lol i forgot
[03:11] <NickGarvey> (what is wayttd?)
[03:11] <zcat[1] > sorry ..
[03:11] <sybariten> ok so theres no binary, no man entry, and google doesnt tell me much. Is there some built in readme thats guaranteed to be there, with installed packages ?
[03:11] <NickGarvey> amphi: and that's the thing, I have no idea what I do to break it
[03:11] <amphi> CPUFreak91: apt-get remove <package_name> should do it
[03:11] <amphi> NickGarvey: you must have changed something
[03:11] <HaxoR91> thanks
[03:11] <NickGarvey> amphi: oh I am sure I did, but it happens after what I would call normal work
[03:11] <mike1> hello all, I have two computers, both with network cards, one doesn't have a CD drive and I want to install ubuntu.  How do I do it?
[03:12] <NickGarvey> !tftp
[03:12] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[03:12] <amphi> NickGarvey: what happens?
[03:12] <FlannelKing> jadaz87: you really don't have to switch, you can still use gdm with KDe, and vv.
[03:12] <HaxoR91> ok it finished installing
[03:12] <jadaz87> nickgarvey so just change the line to: /usr/sbin/kdm?
[03:12] <NickGarvey> amphi: it spits out some error that I will be sure to pastebin next time :)
[03:12] <jadaz87> flannelking it looks bootleg with the blue at bootup brown at login :-\
[03:12] <NickGarvey> jadaz87: yessir, if you have it installed of course
[03:12] <FlannelKing> jadaz87: heh.
[03:12] <HaxoR91> how do i open it/
[03:12] <zcat[1] > mike1; pull the CD drive out and put it in the other machine temporarily. It's the easiest way
[03:12] <HaxoR91> how do i open the compiler?
[03:13] <amphi> NickGarvey: .xsession should contain commands that work from the command line
[03:13] <NickGarvey> HaxoR91: open? what do you mean?
[03:13] <bimberi> HaxoR91: cc file.c
[03:13] <amphi> HaxoR91: gcc -o foo foo.c
[03:13] <NickGarvey> HaxoR91: man gcc
[03:13] <HaxoR91> i mean to open the compiler
[03:13] <HaxoR91> and the editor
[03:13] <amphi> HaxoR91: gcc -Wall -o foo foo.c better
[03:13] <sinnerg> pfff
[03:13] <CPUFreak91> hmm. I figured out how to uninstall something... now I'll update my question: what's the proprietary ati driver's package name?
[03:13] <sinnerg> I have to be @ work in 6 hours
[03:13] <NickGarvey> 8277 lines of goodness
[03:13] <zcat[1] > amphi: make foo
[03:13] <sinnerg> need to go to bed soon ;p
[03:13] <itrebal> how do i add printers to my system? i tried going through localhost:631 and its asking me for the root username/password, so i put in root/mypass, failed, itrebal/mypass failed what should i do?
[03:14] <AkariChan> hey guys
[03:14] <AkariChan> i am at the grub install step
[03:14] <amphi> zcat[1] : he said nothing about a makefile ;)
[03:14] <AkariChan> what should i type there, (hd0,0) ?
[03:14] <bimberi> itrebal: System -> Administration -> Printing
[03:14] <itrebal> bimberi: i cannot, i don't use Gnome
[03:14] <AkariChan> i dont wanna screw up my grub T_T
[03:14] <bimberi> itrebal: ah, ok...
[03:14] <CPUFreak91> AkariChan: What's your hard drive partitioning look like?
[03:14] <bimberi> !tell itrebal about cupsweb
[03:15] <amphi> AkariChan: what's the question? you want to install grub into the mbr (hd0)
[03:15] <itrebal> could you find out what program name it is?
[03:15] <AkariChan> /dev/hda1 = ntf /hda5 is / hda6 is swap hda7 is /home
[03:15] <AkariChan> oh so just mbr?
[03:15] <rukuartic> zcat[1] : Having a bit of problems with mencoder
[03:15] <CPUFreak91> AkariChan: grub-install (hd0,0) is fine
[03:15] <AkariChan> ok...got it
[03:15] <amphi> AkariChan: what is it asking?
[03:15] <AkariChan> rebooting! T__T
[03:15] <CPUFreak91> AkariChan: because you do want the MBR
[03:16] <AkariChan> ah thanks
[03:16] <AkariChan> i hope it works
[03:16] <AkariChan> i can always reedit grub.conf
[03:16] <zcat[1] > amphi: if make can't find a makefile it will just 'gcc -O2 foo.c -o foo' or something close to that..
[03:16] <AkariChan> but i want my first trial to run :D
[03:16] <CPUFreak91> AkariChan: grub-install --no-floppy (hd0,0) might help it go faster
[03:16] <AkariChan> woot runs!
[03:17] <AkariChan> anyway to set my fb to run 1680x1050?
[03:17] <amphi> zcat[1] : really? never tried that, that seems silly bloat
[03:17] <AkariChan> its so ugly and brow now T_T
[03:17] <AkariChan> brown*
[03:17] <Testing1351235> aoeu
[03:17] <amphi> AkariChan: quite possibly, but you'd have to google
[03:17] <NickGarvey> jadaz87: any luck?
[03:18] <zcat[1] > silly why? it makes things 'just work'
[03:18] <jadaz87> nickgarvey it came up to tty1 lmao i had to login and and manually type startx rofl
[03:18] <AkariChan> yeah i remmeber back then i had to modify vga=0x030F to run 16.7 million colors on 1280x1024
[03:18] <AkariChan> OMFG
[03:18] <AkariChan> it renamed all my UTF-8 files to something.ren!
[03:18] <AkariChan> )()$% fvck
[03:18] <NickGarvey> jadaz87: oh.. that's not good.. is kdm in your startup scripts?
[03:18] <AkariChan> omg i cant believe this
[03:18] <jadaz87> nickgarvey how whould i know that?
[03:19] <amphi> zcat[1] : it strikes me as a useless extension, and worse requires make to know too much about gcc IMHO. breaks the rule of modularity
[03:19] <zcat[1] > biggest bummer with Dapper at the moment; every day there's about 100mb of new updates..
[03:19] <AkariChan> shit, my files are all renamed
[03:19] <NickGarvey> !language
[03:19] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[03:20] <AkariChan> ....\
[03:20] <jadaz87> Nickgarvey how do i check that?
[03:20] <NickGarvey> jadaz87: is it in /etc/init.d?
[03:20] <CPUFreak91> Hmm gonna see if X works now
[03:20] <AkariChan> ARGH...
[03:21] <IceTox> thanks Jowi :-)
[03:21] <amphi> zcat[1] : but that's the GNU way *sigh* - do you know why /bin/date links to libpthread?? ;)
[03:21] <HaxoR91> how do i open main.cpp?
[03:21] <NickGarvey> HaxoR91: vi main.cpp
[03:21] <zcat[1] > no idea
[03:21] <amphi> HaxoR91: $EDITOR main.cpp
[03:21] <amphi> zcat[1] : it's ridiculous
[03:21] <HaxoR91> where are the 12345 and etc?
[03:21] <NickGarvey> HaxoR91: hop in cdlug I'll give you a howto on basics like that there, ian is pretty smart too
[03:22] <zcat[1] > apt-get remove --purge unnecessary-bloat
[03:22] <amphi> zcat[1] : heh
[03:22] <GammaRay> amphi: if that was not the way, *every* package's update would be 100mb
[03:22] <nickrud> rflmao, zcat[1] 
[03:22] <jadaz87> nickgarvey there is a /etc/init.d/kdm
[03:23] <NickGarvey> jadaz87: hmm.. not sure why it wouldn't work.. worked for me.. check a howto online I'd say, you can type kdm from the command line to start it
[03:23] <zcat[1] > Audio LAVC, couldn't find encoder for codec mp3 -- bummer.
[03:23] <amphi> GammaRay: huh? I'm not arguing against shared libs on principle, that's a whole other flamewar, but why does /bin/date need to link to libpthread?
[03:23] <jadaz87> nickgarvey you mean from tty1?
[03:23] <Remy> !podcast
[03:23] <ubotu> Remy: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:23] <NickGarvey> jadaz87: yessir, sudo kdm
[03:23] <Remy> hey guys, what's a good podcast program ?
[03:23] <jadaz87> brb
[03:24] <[phiz] > http://www.securident.com/vuln/ff.txt :-/
[03:25] <AkariChan> hey if i lost my root password, how do i recover it?
[03:25] <noisy_1> akari, that's bad news
[03:25] <amphi> !tell AkariChan about root
[03:25] <AkariChan> is there a default root pass in ubuntu?
[03:25] <zcat[1] > no..
[03:25] <NickGarvey> !tell AkariChan about root
[03:25] <amphi> AkariChan: no
[03:25] <AkariChan> cra
[03:25] <AkariChan> p
[03:25] <jadaz87> NickGarvey sudo tty1 does nothing
[03:25] <AkariChan> i can't su.
[03:25] <NickGarvey> !tell AkariChan about root
[03:25] <cjones> how do you uninstall the bata?
[03:26] <Remy> so... anyone know any good podcast programs ?
[03:26] <noisy_1> can you sudo?
[03:26] <jadaz87> nickgarvey i mean sudo kdm
[03:26] <zcat[1] > you can boot init=/bin/bash, remount /, and change it that way
[03:26] <jadaz87> !kdm
[03:26] <ubotu> jadaz87: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:26] <bimberi> AkariChan: sudo (read the link that ubotu is probably spamming you with)
[03:26] <NickGarvey> jadaz87: nothing? like.. it doesn't print anything at all?
[03:26] <AkariChan> T_T ok
[03:26] <jadaz87> nickgarvey nope
[03:26] <zcat[1] > ubuntu doesn't really have a root password as ubutu is probably telling you.. none by default anyway
[03:26] <noisy_1> akari, write down your pws and hide them somewhere
[03:26] <zcat[1] > *ubotu
[03:27] <pangbh> hello fangyu
[03:27] <NickGarvey> jadaz87: but it is clearly a command right?
[03:27] <GammaRay> Remy: you mean like... apache? ;-)
[03:27] <Remy> apache ?
[03:27] <jadaz87> nickgarvey does not return a syntax error
[03:27] <AkariChan> zcat? it didnt prompt me for a pass when i install
[03:27] <Remy> apache does podcasting ?
[03:27] <fangyu> hello pangbh
[03:27] <cjones> can some one help me ?
[03:27] <zcat[1] > AkariChan: only first user, who gets root access via sudo..
[03:27] <NickGarvey> jadaz87: check ctrl alt f7 then
[03:27] <AkariChan> hm
[03:28] <jadaz87> i did it did nothing
[03:28] <amphi> cjones: the bata?
[03:28] <noisy_1> cjones, just ask the question
[03:28] <AkariChan> so first user is inheriting root pass?
[03:28] <bimberi> Remy: do you mean for recording? - some use audacity
[03:28] <zcat[1] > the root login is dissabled by default
[03:28] <AkariChan> imean root accessability
[03:28] <AkariChan> AH!
[03:28] <Remy> nah, just to play podcasts
[03:28] <Pmafia> hey guys quick question
[03:28] <Pmafia> what are the workplace shortcuts?
[03:28] <AkariChan> ok that scared me for a bit, thanks zcat
[03:28] <Remy> it's ok, i'll try ipodder
[03:28] <Remy> !ipodder
[03:28] <ubotu> Remy: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:29] <cjones> i installed the bata and now i want to go back whats the best way of doing that?
[03:29] <bimberi> Remy: yep, i use ipodder
[03:29] <sesstreets> cjones, reformat and reinstall
[03:29] <AkariChan> i can't even touch fstab
[03:29] <noisy_1> the beta?
[03:29] <zcat[1] > cjones: you mean dapper?
[03:29] <noisy_1> dapper, you mean?
[03:29] <cjones> yeah
[03:29] <noisy_1> no clue, I'd reinstall
[03:29] <zcat[1] > AkariChan: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:29] <jadaz87> nickgarvey what am i supposed to do?
[03:30] <zcat[1] > dapper -> breezy == reinstall
[03:30] <cjones> how do i keep form louseing all the stuff i ve done
[03:30] <Pmafia> hello guys?
[03:30] <zcat[1] > burn a DVD?
[03:30] <NickGarvey> jadaz87: not sure.. I'd say google it
[03:30] <noisy_1> save it?
[03:30] <NickGarvey> Pmafia: hello!
[03:30] <Pmafia> can you guys tell me the shortcut for ubuntu workplace?
[03:30] <blindx> Anyone in here familiar with the program "translucy" for Mac?
[03:30] <Pmafia> shortcut to switch between workplaces?
[03:30] <linux_galore> cjones: save /home to disk
[03:30] <jadaz87> nickgarvey how will googling it help? lmao
[03:30] <cjones> is ther a way to save stuff like tones and  firefox ext's
[03:30] <noisy_1> anyone here familiar with mac?
[03:31] <sybariten> slightly, yes
[03:31] <zcat[1] > cjones: they'll be in /home.
[03:31] <cjones> ok thanks
[03:31] <NickGarvey> jadaz87: google, "kdm ubuntu" ?
[03:31] <bimberi> Pmafia: ctrl-alt-<left or right arrow>
[03:31] <Pmafia> THANKS!
[03:31] <linux_galore> cjones: if your clever you usually create a seperate partition for /home so when you do a new install you just tell the installer not to format the  /home partition thus all your personal stuff isnt deleted
[03:31] <sybariten> noisy_1: familiar, in the way that my foot feels very familiar when i ram it into a mac keyboard
[03:31] <Pmafia> bye guys, you guys are life savers!
[03:31] <ice_1963> it will tell you how and were
[03:31] <noisy_1> syb, amen
[03:32] <noisy_1> NO, life savers are life savers
[03:32] <zcat[1] > never install alpha software on a machine you _need_
[03:32] <cjones> how much longer befor dapper becomes a full version ?
[03:32] <zcat[1] > 6 weeks?
[03:32] <NickGarvey> !tell cjones about dapper
[03:32] <meheren> i just installed debian builder and pentium builder to suck the maximum power outa my system can someone xplain to me how to use them? (plz /msg meheren) [ill not be paying attention
[03:32] <meheren> }
[03:32] <NickGarvey> !netsplit
[03:32] <ubotu> hmm... netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show.
[03:32] <blindx> netsplit ftw
[03:32] <zcat[1] > ohh
[03:32] <amphi> noisy_1: I installed debian on an ibook once...
[03:33] <lolipod> It wasn't a netsplit
[03:33] <lolipod> lol
[03:33] <noisy_1> I'm running debian
[03:33] <sesstreets> lol
[03:33] <NickGarvey> !tell jamesthered about wine
[03:33] <sybariten> noisy_1: whats the problem?
[03:33] <scarn> !fixres
[03:33] <ubotu> fixres is probably Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:33] <noisy_1> A lot of people just got pwned
[03:33] <linux_galore> Digs out the Majic Daper Release Crystall ball, I seee smoog and looots of cooode
[03:33] <amphi> noisy_1: same here ;)
[03:33] <noisy_1> http://www.nestle.com.au/lifesavers/body.asp
[03:33] <blindx> When running video in VLC, I don't get sound unless I go to audio > disable, and then reenable it afterwards... why?
[03:33] <AkariChan> does anyone know how i can su ?
[03:33] <sesstreets> lol
[03:33] <noisy_1> those are life savers
[03:33] <zcat[1] > pwned == lame
[03:33] <paloyme> anybody has any idea if i could run IE on ubuntu?
[03:33] <blindx> AkariChan, sudo passwd
[03:33] <ice_1963> noisy_1:so a'm i etch :)
[03:33] <blindx> (type that, then you pick a password for su)
[03:33] <AkariChan> thanks!
[03:34] <bimberi> AkariChan: 'sudo -i' gets you a root login shell
[03:34] <noisy_1> why would you WANT to run IE on ubuntu?
[03:34] <amphi> paloyme: perhaps under wine, or run windows under qemu - but why??
[03:34] <NickGarvey> paloyme: yes.. look for ie4linux or something..
[03:34] <zcat[1] > paloyme: crossover office ?
[03:34] <DrSpin> So I'm trying to use my USB-Drive in vmware but I can't figure out how to detach USB-Storage from the device without unloading the module -- anyone have any ideas?
[03:34] <noisy_1> good god man
[03:34] <AkariChan> i love you blind & bimberi XD
[03:34] <DrSpin> IE runs quite well under wine
[03:34] <paloyme> nickgarvey, ie4linux is a browser or a tunneler?
[03:34] <AkariChan> got it~
[03:34] <noisy_1> you mean Internet Explorer?
[03:34] <DrSpin> (not that I use it)
[03:34] <noisy_1> pwned.
[03:34] <bimberi> Hobbsee: ping
[03:34] <paloyme> IE = Internet Explorer
[03:34] <zcat[1] > IE runs well? where?!! it doesn't even run well on windows :)
[03:34] <Hobbsee> bimberi: pong
[03:34] <noisy_1> lol @ zcat
[03:35] <noisy_1> ahah
[03:35] <paloyme> i need to frequently access a site that is IE feature heavy....
[03:35] <DrSpin> zcat -- I stand corrected -- it runs better under Wine ;)
[03:35] <Hobbsee> mmm...netsplit
[03:35] <bimberi> Hobbsee: hi, that's the 2nd time ravenmind_dj has done that
[03:35] <linux_galore> yeah for IE you dont need crossover the standard wine setup works fine, you only need crossover for more complex things like photoshop or Office XP etc
[03:35] <noisy_1> Firefox / K-meleon / Opera
[03:35] <Hobbsee> @#$%
[03:35] <wy> I'm wondering how can I identify my self automatically in xchat
[03:35] <amphi> paloyme: best run it in a windows install under qemu, that way it's confined nicely
[03:35] <paloyme> zcat, its not about a question of running well, its a question about being able to run a certain feature
[03:35] <Hobbsee> bimberi: didnt know that was possible
[03:35] <_jason> wy: in the server settings, you can add it there
[03:35] <DrSpin> So... USB Drive Vmware, USB-Storage... anyone can help??
[03:35] <paloyme> amphi, qemu is a program for linux?
[03:36] <noisy_1> I think the last time I used IE I needed 3 popup blockers
[03:36] <NickGarvey> paloyme: to google my friend
[03:36] <kestas> paloyme: I'd use WINE, but it takes a bit of work
[03:36] <zcat[1] > anyhow.. I've never got anything to run in wine apart from solitare and minesweeper.
[03:36] <noisy_1> I'd use firefox
[03:36] <linux_galore> qemu = emulator for Linux
[03:36] <amphi> paloyme: yeah, an emulator - with the kernel module, it's very fast emulating x86 on x86
[03:36] <kestas> paloyme: qemu is very slow
[03:36] <noisy_1> contradiction!
[03:36] <NickGarvey> qemu is very nice.. saves me a lot of blank cds
[03:36] <amphi> paloyme: see http://qemu.org/
[03:36] <paloyme> NickGarvey> paloyme: to google my friend <hehehehe, ok
[03:36] <bimberi> Hobbsee: he/she has d.c.c. s.e.n.d in their quit mssage, Ubugtu doesn't seem to do anything
[03:36] <linux_galore> cthe idea behind crossover is to make installing certain windows applications in Linux very easy
[03:36] <amphi> kestas: bochs is slow
[03:37] <kestas> amphi: it's fast at emulating in instructions, but virtualizing memory is painfully slow
[03:37] <bimberi> Hobbsee: thanks :)
[03:37] <Hobbsee> bimberi: yep, i know.  tryign to fix it better than that...
[03:37] <McScruff> im using xchat-gnome, how can i get the nicklist on the right
[03:37] <paloyme> somebody is saying qemu is slow heheheheh
[03:37] <paloyme> care to justify it:)
[03:37] <blindx> how can i get transparency in ubuntu?
[03:37] <noisy_1> how did the target of my cp become larger than my source?
[03:38] <wy> back. It's works. thank you
[03:38] <zcat[1] > blindx: compiz-gnome?
[03:38] <amphi> kestas: 'disk' access is quite slow, but otherwise I find it quite ok for running plan9 on 16GHz pentium m
[03:38] <noisy_1> 16GHz?
[03:38] <kestas> paloyme: well gee, it takes 3-4 mins to boot win xp, menus are slow and unresponsive, no graphics accel, it's just slow
[03:38] <amphi> noisy_1: er, 1.6
[03:38] <paloyme> kestas, what can you recommend if you think qemu is slow?
[03:38] <wy> 4x4GHz?
[03:38] <noisy_1> aw, I thought you got som esort of hybrid supercomputer chip
[03:38] <bimberi> McScruff: embrace the change :)  (took me a while but i'm used to it)
[03:38] <AkariChan> anyone know how to install more codepage?
[03:38] <kestas> paloyme: WINE is the only option, maybe VMWare but it still requires emulating the whole OS
[03:39] <linux_galore> I wait for a stable XGL release before I would worry about transparancies
[03:39] <kestas> paloyme: WINE will let you just run IE, no need for XP, but it takes some work
[03:39] <blindx> hm. zcat[1]  where can i get that?
[03:39] <amphi> paloyme: give it a try; I've run plan 9, the hurd, and netbsd fine under qemu, dunno about windows
[03:39] <noisy_1> Linux will let you run Firefox, no need for anything
[03:39] <paloyme> does qemu need you to run the whole OS first before i could run IE?
[03:39] <kestas> amphi: you probably didnt use X?
[03:39] <kestas> paloyme: yeah
[03:39] <hftz_> hi, i'm getting an error when gdm tries to start "there is already an xserver instance running on display :1"
[03:39] <linux_galore> I have IE installed but that only to test web sites, firefox does everything else
[03:39] <paloyme> yeeesh... i was hoping of just running IE
[03:40] <paloyme> and your asnwer to that is wine
[03:40] <kestas> paloyme: well as Ive said twice, that's what WINE is for
[03:40] <noisy_1> does ntfs store at higher compression? I copied some files from ntfs to ext3 and its 2gb larger and rising
[03:40] <hftz_> anyone know how to fix that?
[03:40] <kestas> noisy_1: it can compress, yes
[03:40] <DrSpin> hftz_: at the prompt type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:40] <paloyme> linux_galore, can you test www.eriworld.net for me? and try to enter under "student login"?
[03:40] <DrSpin> hftz_: then try to start it again
[03:40] <NickGarvey> noisy_1: ntfs can compress if you check it..
[03:40] <amphi> kestas: no, didn't bother with it; I use rio on plan 9 though
[03:40] <hftz_> k,
[03:40] <hftz_> one more thing
[03:40] <hftz_> when i first boot
[03:40] <NickGarvey> !enter
[03:40] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[03:40] <noisy_1> it beeps madly?
[03:41] <wy> paloyme:  Can qemu boot my existing Windows XP partition?
[03:41] <hftz_> it just hangs when gdm tries to run
[03:41] <kestas> amphi: well when youve got little memory usage and no graphics anything'll be fast tbh
[03:41] <linux_galore> paloyme: IE isnt designed for anything but winows, the idea behind wine is to emulate the windows api calls so windows applications when they run think there running on windows but they arent
[03:41] <kestas> wy: not without screwing it up
[03:41] <DrSpin> hftz_: ATI or Nvidia?
[03:41] <linux_galore> windows*
[03:41] <amphi> kestas: rio is a graphical interface
[03:41] <hftz_> Ati
[03:41] <frank23> paloyme: this is what I used to get IE6 working with WINE: http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html
[03:41] <kestas> amphi: oh yeah, I remember now
[03:41] <paloyme> wy, dont know, just found out that there is a program called qemu
[03:41] <noisy_1> why frank?
[03:41] <paloyme> go here qemu.org
[03:41] <kestas> amphi: how is plan9 btw?
[03:41] <NickGarvey> !qemu
[03:41] <ubotu> methinks qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[03:41] <DrSpin> hftz_: did you install the ATI drivers?
[03:41] <wy> kestas:  vmware can't boot my XP. I'm wondering why
[03:41] <hftz_> yeah
[03:42] <NickGarvey> wy: think thats what you are looking for
[03:42] <DrSpin> hftz_: is that when it broke?
[03:42] <frank23> noisy_1: why what?
[03:42] <hftz_> fglrx
[03:42] <wy> NickGarvey:  You mean qemu?
[03:42] <paloyme> frank23, thanks
[03:42] <hftz_> i was trying to get no
[03:42] <itsonlyme> Is it possible to boot a kernel, and initrd from a usb drive?  Have grub installed on my laptops HD, but no other bootable dives.  I hate the thought of removing the drive again.
[03:42] <sesstreets> qem bleh
[03:42] <hftz_> err sorry, it didnt break then
[03:42] <NickGarvey> wy: waht did I put?
[03:42] <noisy_1> Damn Small Linux
[03:43] <hftz_> i got direct rendering working successfully, and then tried to install xgl.
[03:43] <DrSpin> hftz_: LOL -- isn't XGL beta??
[03:43] <wy> NickGarvey:  "think thats what you are looking for"
[03:43] <DrSpin> hftz_: like REALLY beta?
[03:43] <NickGarvey> wy: oh I did !qemu
[03:43] <NickGarvey> !tell wy about qemu
[03:43] <iwalker> xgl is the shit
[03:43] <NickGarvey> :)
[03:43] <AkariChan> how do i make apt-get retrieve debs from packages.ubuntu.com? anyone?
[03:43] <NickGarvey> !language
[03:43] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[03:43] <jadaz87> nickgarvey sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm did the trick
[03:43] <NickGarvey> (although yes xgl is very nice)
[03:43] <amphi> kestas: interesting; you might like to look at some of the docs at http://cm.bell-labs.com/sys/doc/
[03:43] <hftz_> i know this, but alot of people have gotten it working, so i figured that i could.
[03:43] <NickGarvey> jadaz87: ah ha!
[03:44] <NickGarvey> jadaz87: yeah I never would have thought of that heh
[03:44] <tonyyarusso> This is showing up in my terminal randomly throughout today, why?: '[4303382.621000]  ipw2200: Firmware error detected.  Restarting.'
[03:44] <noisy_1> the chat moves too fast to read! >_<
[03:44] <jadaz87> nickgarvey :-) now all i have to do is get rid of that depressing brown gnome splash
[03:44] <Hobbsee> noisy_1: hehe, it always does
[03:44] <NickGarvey> :)
[03:44] <paloyme> my main concern with firefox is that it doesnt play the wmv on the website, it kinda downloads it, which is prohibited by the site, so all i get at totem is an error
[03:44] <paloyme> but thats just my speculation
[03:44] <paloyme> i dont really know how firefox works with wmv's
[03:44] <blindx> how can i get transparency in ubuntu?
[03:44] <NickGarvey> !tell paloyme about restricted
[03:45] <AkariChan> how do i make apt-get retrieve debs from packages.ubuntu.com? anyone? ^^
[03:45] <noisy_1> it works in windows but I think its restricted
[03:45] <blindx> you can play wmv's in VLC
[03:45] <frank23> paloyme: did you install w32codecs? ant totem-xine?
[03:45] <jadaz87> nickgarvey sys>admin>login scr setup does not work now
[03:45] <noisy_1> even in IE it wont work without a decoder
[03:45] <paloyme> no no no, its not about a question of codecs
[03:45] <jadaz87> :-(
[03:45] <amphi> tonyyarusso: that's a known problem; dmesg -n1 will stop it spamming your term
[03:45] <Hobbsee> bimberi: nalioth says it's grounds for a kline :P
[03:45] <paloyme> its a question of the site allowing the player to play
[03:45] <paloyme> or something like that
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Thanks.  (btw then, is it fixed in Dapper?)
[03:46] <frank23> paloyme: try mediaplayerconnectivity extension to play videos embedded in websites in a external player
[03:46] <linux_galore> frank23: what you need to do is install the "user agent switcher:  this will alow firefox to spoof the server and pretend its IE
[03:46] <bimberi> Hobbsee: fair enough :)
[03:46] <frank23> linux_galore: paloyme is the one with that problem
[03:46] <paloyme> i tried user agent swither, its no good
[03:46] <jadaz87> nickgarvey where are the kde backgrounds kept?
[03:46] <AkariChan> does anyone know how do i make apt-get retrieve debs from packages.ubuntu.com?
[03:46] <amphi> tonyyarusso: no idea, I build that driver myself - I'm using 1.0.4 myself ATM, which is far behind the bleeding edge, but it seems to work ok for me
[03:46] <NickGarvey> jadaz87: not sure.. I'm not a gui person
[03:46] <NickGarvey> jadaz87: I know bits and pieces
[03:47] <tonyyarusso> amphi: All right.
[03:47] <jadaz87> nickgarvey oh ok
[03:47] <hftz_> is there any way i can force xorg to use display :1 as default or something?
[03:47] <amphi> hftz_: startx -- :1 or xinit -- :1 ?
[03:47] <paloyme> the link to the file is this http://pictronstream.erinet2.com/mgwms/pictron/workspace/reacha/ot_100k.wmv
[03:47] <blindx> heh. office space. he closes down his mac operating system and gets a dos prompt. heh...
[03:47] <hftz_> hmm
[03:47] <paloyme> you can't access that simply by clicking on it
[03:47] <noisy_1> blindx, it is incredibly sad that you noticed that
[03:48] <paloyme> try running that in your firefoxes
[03:48] <blindx> noisy_1 ... :[
[03:48] <linux_galore> frank23: IE under wine works fine with that website
[03:48] <noisy_1> hehe
[03:48] <frank23> linux_galore: wrong guy
[03:48] <wy> NickGarvey:  That page have explained how to make an existing XP partition boot and run
[03:48] <NickGarvey> wy: okie, what were you looking for?
[03:48] <paloyme> linux_galore, it think thats for me?
[03:48] <linux_galore> aaah ok
[03:49] <itsonlyme> PC Load Letter...  WFT is PC Load letter?
[03:49] <blindx> lol.
[03:49] <paloyme> http://pictronstream.erinet2.com/mgwms/pictron/workspace/reacha/ot_100k.wmv please try this on your firefoxes
[03:49] <itsonlyme> :)
[03:49] <ro> how do you create a directory and specify the user and group?
[03:49] <wy> NickGarvey:  I have a XP installed in /dev/sda1. Now I want something that can boot from that partition as if in my real machine
[03:49] <linux_galore> paloyme: yeah either grab crossover (has a no brainer ie installer even download its for you) or read up on wine
[03:49] <NickGarvey> itsonlyme: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC_LOAD_LETTER
[03:49] <frank23> paloyme: MediaPlayerConnectivity works fine for that site
[03:49] <amphi> paloyme: I tried with wget, it just gave me some text file with a couple of urls, one of which was 10.x.x.x
[03:50] <paloyme> ok thanks linux_galore
[03:50] <linux_galore> paloyme: I saw a script on www.freshmeat.net  that downloads IE 6 and installs it for you
[03:50] <itsonlyme> I love Office Space,  I got a red stapler for my birthday last year.
[03:50] <NickGarvey> wy: oh um no idea never tried..
[03:50] <linux_galore> paloyme: dont have to do a thing
[03:50] <blindx> ies4linux
[03:50] <bluelotus> how do you determin the name of a driver/module?
[03:50] <paloyme> amphi: exactly, its a very secured site, one which only allows embedded wmplayer, i think
[03:50] <hftz_> ok, now even if i stop gdm before i start it, i get the same error that there is already an open x server on display :1
[03:50] <fensta> anyone know how to edit my startup script to start in gnome not kde?
[03:50] <blindx> paloyme, linux_galore its name is ies4linux
[03:50] <NickGarvey> hftz_: sudo killall gdm
[03:51] <NickGarvey> hftz_: perhaps someone is vncing in?
[03:51] <paloyme> linux_galore, thanks for that info
[03:51] <frank23> paloyme: I could play the video with IE. I can even do a save as...
[03:51] <frank23> paloyme: I could play the video without* IE. I can even do a save as...
[03:51] <amphi> paloyme: oh, no idea about that - why not just ignore such a crap?
[03:51] <noisy_1> I want a red stapler
[03:51] <noisy_1> so I can give it to people and say "I believe you have my stapler"
[03:51] <noisy_1> maybe I need a life
[03:52] <paloyme> amphi, i cant hehehe, my reviwees need to access the site because it contains their review videos hehehe
[03:52] <ro> Anybody know how to create a directory and specify the user and group?
[03:52] <amphi> noisy_1: nah, what would you do with one if you had it? ;)
[03:52] <itsonlyme> I'll burn this place down... .I've done it before
[03:52] <amphi> paloyme: ah
[03:52] <McScruff> gnome is so much faster then kde
[03:52] <ZeZu> what is /dev/sequencer ?
[03:52] <noisy_1> and CLI is faster than both
[03:52] <noisy_1> GG
[03:52] <itsonlyme> http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/61b7/
[03:52] <NickGarvey> ro: mkdir name; chown user name; chgrp group name
[03:52] <itsonlyme> OOps
[03:52] <ZeZu> alsa shit ?
[03:53] <NickGarvey> ro: probably an easier way
[03:53] <blindx> how can i get transparency in ubuntu?
[03:53] <NickGarvey> !language
[03:53] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[03:53] <itsonlyme> Red Swing Line  Stapler here - http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/61b7/
[03:53] <sherwin> hello
[03:53] <amphi> ro: or chown user.group directory
[03:53] <NickGarvey> amphi: would user:group work also?
[03:53] <sherwin> i would like to know a cafe timer for my computer shop
[03:53] <NickGarvey> amphi: I know user: sets the group to the users group
[03:53] <amphi> NickGarvey: yes - one is deprecated, but I forget which ;)
[03:53] <noisy_1> its so glorified on that page itsonlyme
[03:53] <hftz_> i think that the problem is that as a workaround for ati and xgl, it told me to use display :1 as default in xorg.conf-custom, but that gdm opens on that window, and xserver doesnt
[03:53] <hftz_> is is possible to fix that?
[03:53] <ro> NickGarvey, amphi: Thanks guys :)
[03:54] <NickGarvey> hftz_: using dapper?
[03:54] <noisy_1> and it makes me want one even more
[03:54] <linux_galore> paloyme: here we go http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/
[03:54] <hftz_> yeah
[03:54] <NickGarvey> !tell hftz_ about dapper
[03:54] <Pmafia> hey guys, can you install any linux program on ubuntu, like KDE programs too?
[03:54] <NickGarvey> Pmafia: yessir
[03:54] <Pmafia> install method the same?
[03:54] <hftz_> oh sorry.
[03:54] <bimberi> !dstats breezy
[03:54] <amphi> Pmafia: indeed you can
[03:54] <sherwin> anyone using a cafe timer for ubuntu?
[03:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu Distro Stats on breezy... 18635 packages, 1641 maintainers, 37180 MB installed size, 11475 MB compressed size.
[03:54] <ZeZu> eh suddenly my audio doesn't work ...
[03:54] <noisy_1> anyone in the mood for a good riddle?
[03:54] <NickGarvey> hftz_: I know nothing about dapper heh
[03:54] <ZeZu> how can i play a sound using alsa for a test ?
[03:54] <ZeZu> err it does work but something is wrong
[03:54] <ice_1963> alsaconf
[03:54] <bimberi> Pmafia: 18635 software packages available :)
[03:55] <itsonlyme> Err...  I think everyone is asleep in #grub .   Is anyone here a GRUB expert?  I seek your wisdom...
[03:55] <NickGarvey> !helpme
[03:55] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[03:55] <ZeZu> what is /dev/sequencer ?
[03:55] <sherwin> hello anyone using a cafe timer for a computer shop?
[03:55] <rukuartic> noisy_1: sudo apt-get install fortune?
[03:55] <NickGarvey> !anyone
[03:55] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[03:55] <Pmafia> nice
[03:55] <frank23> bimberi: so with 37GBs you can get ALL of Ubuntu installed. hehe
[03:55] <Pmafia> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installingsoftware.php
[03:55] <Pmafia> do i have to read all of that to learn how?
[03:56] <amphi> Pmafia: apt-get install package_name will work
[03:56] <NickGarvey> !anyone =~ s/probably 90%/a large amount/
[03:56] <ubotu> NickGarvey: OK
[03:56] <sherwin> cafe timer please?
[03:56] <fensta> hey guys.. when I click on system, administration, login screen setup.... nothing happens
[03:56] <fensta> it wont load up a window to adjust that
[03:56] <fensta> anyone know what the deal is?
[03:56] <noisy_1> sudo apt-get install red-stapler
[03:56] <NickGarvey> fensta: what are you trying to do?
[03:56] <bimberi> frank23: hehe, no there are conflicts that won't allow everything to be installed together :)
[03:56] <frank23> Pmafia: the #1 way on that page is the basic way
[03:56] <sherwin> nickgarvey
[03:56] <sesstreets> I belive you have my stapler.
[03:56] <fensta> trying to make it always boot up with gnome instead of kde
[03:56] <NickGarvey> sherwin:
[03:57] <fensta> it shows the kde bootupscreen.. then I have to choose gnome and login
[03:57] <sherwin> can i ask you a question?
[03:57] <frank23> bimberi: I know....
[03:57] <fensta> I want it to default to gnome login
[03:57] <bimberi> frank23: oh, kk :)
[03:57] <NickGarvey> fensta: ah, change /etc/X11/default-display-manager to gdm instead
[03:57] <ice_1963> for sound you need esuond alsa-base alsa-utils then do alsaconf that's it
[03:57] <sherwin> do you know a cafe timer for a computer shop?
[03:57] <NickGarvey> sherwin: why yes you can
[03:57] <Pmafia> im just leave my irc open, thanks guys, im learning by leaps and bounds already!
[03:57] <Pmafia> back to the hockey game, liking ubuntu btw :)
[03:57] <frank23> sherwin: oh you mean like in a internet cafe?
[03:57] <amphi> Pmafia: ugh, spr0t ;)
[03:58] <Pmafia> also guys when is the 6.06 comming out?
[03:58] <frank23> Pmafia: June 1st
[03:58] <sherwin> yes i need a cafe timer for an internet cafe
[03:58] <Pmafia> whats the difference between kubuntu and unbuntu ?
[03:58] <frank23> sherwin: I don't know....
[03:58] <amphi> sherwin: look on freshmeat.net perhaps
[03:58] <fensta> NickGarvey... chnage it to /usr/bind/gdm?
[03:58] <Slant_Mobile> ZeZu: Haha, they ZeZu!
[03:58] <Pmafia> one is KDE the other is GNOME, but whats the real difference?
[03:58] <ZeZu> whats up buddy
[03:58] <linux_galore> Pmafia: Ubuntu = default gnome desktop Kubuntu = KDE
[03:58] <frank23> Pmafia: that's the difference
[03:58] <NickGarvey> fensta: just change what ever says kdm to gdm
[03:58] <fensta> *NickGarvey... chnage it to /usr/bin/gdm?
[03:58] <amphi> Pmafia: that is the difference
[03:58] <fensta> k
[03:58] <Slant_Mobile> ZeZu: Nothing really. I'm on a laptop at my girlfriend's investigating a hoary to dapper migration.
[03:58] <NickGarvey> fensta: there we go :)
[03:59] <NickGarvey> fensta: then reboot I'd say
[03:59] <Pmafia> oh, um
[03:59] <ZeZu> nice
[03:59] <fensta> let me try that ;-
[03:59] <Pmafia> whats the difference between gnome and kde in a nutshell
[03:59] <linux_galore> Pmafia: you
[03:59] <fogos> i someone have 915resolution working?
[03:59] <fogos> hi someone have 915resolution working?
[03:59] <NickGarvey> linux_galore: oo thats a nice answer
[03:59] <bluelotus> how do I reconfig my kernel?
[03:59] <bimberi> s/gnom/kd/
[03:59] <Pmafia> im the difference?
[03:59] <Pmafia> which one is my prefrence?
[03:59] <Slant_Mobile> ZeZu: What's up with you recently?
[03:59] <NickGarvey> Pmafia: your preferences, yup
[03:59] <Thinjon100> Has anyone used Madwifi drivers for their Wireless NIC?  For some reason I cannot seem to get any connectivity from my wireless NIC, though I've double-checked all the WEP encryption and network settings
[03:59] <Slant_Mobile> ZeZu: I'm still reading the backlogs on the dev channel.
[04:00] <Pmafia> but whats the difference between them
[04:00] <ice_1963> kde and gnome are both good
[04:00] <Slant_Mobile> ZeZu: But uni has been killing me.
[04:00] <NickGarvey> Thinjon100: using ndiswrapper?
[04:00] <linux_galore> Pmafia: yes Linux offers choice, so often differences are a matter of opinion
[04:00] <Pmafia> i never knew linux was divided
[04:00] <ZeZu> Slant_Mobile, not too much, just work and the emulator
[04:00] <Pmafia> whats the major difference
[04:00] <linux_galore> Pmafia: not divided just you have choice
[04:00] <Thinjon100> NickGarvey: Using madwifi... I don't /think/ it uses ndiswrapper
[04:00] <ZeZu> Slant_Mobile, you'll have to see the emu sometime soon, it plays commercial games fullspeed now in many cases
[04:00] <ZeZu> sound etc
[04:00] <NickGarvey> Pmafia: gnome is more simple in most peoples opinion, where as kde has more utilities it's menus... I don't mean to stereotype so someone correct me if thats out of line
[04:00] <frank23> Pmafia: kde and gnome are different desktop environments. try both and see which one you like best. I use KDE
[04:01] <amphi> Pmafia: divided?? there are flamewars about almost anything
[04:01] <Slant_Mobile> ZeZu: Holy shit, really? That's amazing progress.
[04:01] <NickGarvey> xfce > all!!
[04:01] <AkariChan> do u guys modify your sources.list?
[04:01] <NickGarvey> !language
[04:01] <Pmafia> lol
[04:01] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[04:01] <jadaz87> i installed kdm and now when i start my laptop it comes up to tty1 instead of the kdm loading and kdm is in /etc/init.d
[04:01] <Slant_Mobile> ZeZu: I guess JIT is wokring well now. ;-)
[04:01] <NickGarvey> AkariChan: I do!
[04:01] <bluelotus> Anyone know the command to reconfig the kernel?
[04:01] <bimberi> amphi: no there's isn't :P
[04:01] <Pmafia> for multimedia/gaming which is better?
[04:01] <NickGarvey> jadaz87: eek thought you fixed it
[04:01] <Pmafia> gnome or KDE
[04:01] <amphi> bimberi: ;)
[04:01] <bimberi> s/'s//
[04:01] <AkariChan> nick: for amd64, are there any sources?
[04:01] <NickGarvey> AkariChan: do you need different sources? didn't think so
[04:01] <ZeZu> Slant_Mobile, yea, well its actually a different emulator too, not sure if you caught any of that but me and drkIIRazi wrote out own, its going fairly well, the atomiswave bios works as well ;)
[04:01] <AkariChan> i can't seem to get xine codecs
[04:01] <linux_galore> Pmafia: lol, thats like asking what the difference between a Nissan and a Toyota, both are cars both have 4 wheels but are different
[04:02] <amphi> Pmafia: emacs or vi[m] ? linux or bsd? shared libs or static linking? etc ad nauseam
[04:02] <AkariChan> i can get xine to install (finally) but i can't find some of the codecs T_T
[04:02] <Slant_Mobile> ZeZu: Yeah, I caught that. What are the release plans?
[04:02] <NickGarvey> my programming language is better than yours amphi
[04:02] <frank23> Pmafia: well since you can run kde apps in gnome and vice versa, it doesn't matter which one you use for specific apps
[04:02] <fensta> grrr
[04:02] <NickGarvey> I use BASIC
[04:02] <fensta> that didnt work :\
[04:02] <Pmafia> Amphi: i have no idea what you just said lol
[04:02] <bifodus> does anyone here use networkmanager and a BCM4306 network card?
[04:02] <ZeZu> Slant_Mobile, sometime soon, trying to get website situated now
[04:02] <NickGarvey> !anyone
[04:02] <ubotu> a large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[04:02] <amphi> NickGarvey: I should hope so, I use INTERCAL ;)
[04:02] <NickGarvey> bifodus: but yes I do
[04:02] <Slant_Mobile> bifodus: I do.
[04:02] <Pmafia> frank23, thanks
[04:02] <ZeZu> Slant_Mobile, i'll send you a beta though if you'd like
[04:03] <linux_galore> Pmafia: KDE is more like windows were Gnome is a bit like windows but has some of the simplicity of OSX
[04:03] <bifodus> does nm-applet display signal strengths?
[04:03] <NickGarvey> bifodus: wait not networkmanager though
[04:03] <Pmafia> yes i noticed that linux_galore
[04:03] <theskunk> hello, anybody here know how to change a default application? for instance, i'd like to use VLC as my default media player, but i cannot find the option to change it
[04:03] <fensta> I keep seeing the kubuntu login screens.. but once I login it goes to gnome.. but still it is annoying as piss
[04:03] <NickGarvey> bifodus: I use a bcm43xx card though
[04:03] <Slant_Mobile> ZeZu: I'd appreciate it. Slant on DC dev should be able to auto-DCC, or scott@quadhome.com works.
[04:03] <fensta> whats the dealio?
[04:03] <NickGarvey> fensta: change what it says under session, there should be a button
[04:03] <Pmafia> does ubuntu come with a program which i can view powerpoint slides?
[04:03] <NickGarvey> Pmafia: yessir, open office
[04:03] <theskunk> Pmafia, openoffice > impress
[04:03] <frank23> Pmafia: yes, openoffice
[04:03] <bifodus> i got it working using fwcutter for the drivers, but nm-applet doesn't seem to be showing any signals
[04:04] <Pmafia> sweet im lovin this :D
[04:04] <ZeZu> Slant_Mobile, ok, it will prob come from the nick "`plot`" fyi
[04:04] <rukuartic> Not quite related to Ubuntu, but are WesternDigital hard drives reliable? Both me and my friend have had them fail within a year or so. Data was safe but I couldn't boot...
[04:04] <bifodus> it detects the open access points, but they're all at 0% signal strength
[04:04] <Apostle^> when i type startx in a different tty my first one fails, and the second gives me an error message that screen 0 is already in use
[04:04] <fensta> NickGarvey.. I do that... and thats when it goes to gnome... but it keeps showing the kubuntu login pages
[04:04] <rukuartic> Pmafia: We love it too :D
[04:04] <jadaz87> i installed kdm and now when i start my laptop it comes up to tty1 instead of the kdm loading and kdm is in /etc/init.d
[04:04] <theskunk> Pmafia, good deal, we're all glad!
[04:04] <Pmafia> :D
[04:04] <Slant_Mobile> ZeZu: It's all good. :-)
[04:04] <linux_galore> Pmafia: you dont want to see my default kde desktop it looks exactly like OSX, even has a docker with the weird zooming icon effects
[04:04] <Pmafia> aight guys thanks, brb
[04:04] <Apostle^> fensta: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm and select gdm
[04:04] <NickGarvey> fensta: under session you hit kde and it does gnome anyway?
[04:04] <Slant_Mobile> ZeZu: So what are you hanging around in here for? Supporting or getting support?
[04:04] <Pmafia> i like that dock linux_galore
[04:04] <Apostle^> when i type startx in a different tty my first one fails, and the second gives me an error message that screen 0 is already in use
[04:04] <amphi> NickGarvey: you might find this page of interest: http://www.catb.org/~esr/intercal/intercal.txt.gz
[04:04] <Pmafia> can i use that for ubuntu?
[04:04] <Thinjon100> I can't figure out why the wireless isn't working... everytihng says it's properly ocnfigured... it just isn't broadcasting/receiving
[04:04] <NickGarvey> Thinjon100: can you iwlist wlan0 scan?
[04:05] <amphi> Apostle^: try startx -- :1
[04:05] <Apostle^> amphi: just like that?
[04:05] <linux_galore> apache2: type  xinit  /usr/bin/startgnome   -- :1
[04:05] <amphi> Apostle^: just like that
[04:05] <fensta> Apostle^.. lemmie give that a shot
[04:05] <Apostle^> startx - - :1
[04:05] <Thinjon100> NickGarvey yes, and that was successful, and I found my access point (after setting my WEP key)
[04:05] <linux_galore> apache2: Linux can have multiple desktops
[04:05] <ZeZu> Slant_Mobile, mostly i just sit around in here, once in a while i answer one or ask a question too, atm i'm having some problem w/ an app i wrote crapping out and giving me an error about /dev/sequencer, i'm assuming its due to audio
[04:05] <amphi> Apostle^: no, startx -- :1
[04:05] <Slant_Mobile> ZeZu: /dev/sequencer is the midi interface.
[04:05] <N2DIY> hi gang, I just did an install and my mouse wasn't detected, it's a serial mouse that worked fine on the box before I installed over Fedora Core 5.
[04:05] <Pmafia> linux_galore: where can i get a dock for my ubuntu?
[04:05] <Slant_Mobile> ZeZu: Is the app SDL?
[04:06] <rukuartic> N2DIY: You still use serial? Why not ps2?
[04:06] <NickGarvey> Thinjon100: mm I had the exactly some problem (which would be why I am running suse right now heh)
[04:06] <bifodus> oh, i see...apparently BCM drivers don't support signal strength at all
[04:06] <linux_galore> Pmafia: hold on
[04:06] <ZeZu> Slant_Mobile, yes for audio it is
[04:06] <Pmafia> sure.
[04:06] <NickGarvey> N2DIY: old computer eh?
[04:06] <jadaz87> i installed kdm and now when i start my laptop it comes up to tty1 instead of the kdm loading and kdm is in /etc/init.d
[04:06] <N2DIY> Legacy hardware.
[04:06] <Thinjon100> NickGarvey: I've tried for 3 days straight to install SuSE with 0 success
[04:06] <ZeZu> Slant_Mobile, not using any midis though, but perhaps its not using alsa or smth
[04:06] <amphi> N2DIY: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should let you set it up
[04:06] <Slant_Mobile> ZeZu: Is the app using libsdl?
[04:06] <amphi> N2DIY: or are you talking about gpm?
[04:06] <Thinjon100> I felt proud I finalyl got Ubuntu installed
[04:06] <NickGarvey> Thinjon100: no? did a network install?
[04:07] <N2DIY> How do I access the menus/terminal with out the mouse?
[04:07] <linux_galore> Pmafia: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=10955
[04:07] <fensta> still loads up and shows kubuntu
[04:07] <fensta> this is driving me insane
[04:07] <slew> hi, im trying to install a game called freereign. the ./configure says "You need to have the libstdc++ headers installed" but i already have the libstdc dev files installed. anyone know what else i need?
[04:07] <amphi> N2DIY: alt-ctrl-f1 will take you to a console
[04:07] <N2DIY> Yes, Gnome.
[04:07] <rukuartic> N2DIY: Ctrl+alt+f1 goes to a pure terminal, ctrl+alt+f7 goes back to gui
[04:07] <ZeZu> Slant_Mobile, yes
[04:07] <Linux_Junkie> ahh Thinjon100 congratz.
[04:07] <Pmafia> linux_galore, thank you
[04:07] <N2DIY> Roger another terminal.
[04:07] <ZeZu> Slant_Mobile, SDL_mixer to be exact
[04:07] <rukuartic> N2DIY: Mice are overrated anyways. I've stopped using mine
[04:07] <amphi> rukuartic: ;)
[04:07] <Linux_Junkie> I use ion3
[04:07] <Thinjon100> NickGarvery: For SuSE?  Downloaded the SuSE10 AMD64 DVD... got installed up through bootloader, reboot into a black screen with a small green line across the top and nothing else... even "failsafe" mode locks up
[04:07] <aP> now i can't use the ctrl+alt+F keys anymore
[04:07] <Pmafia> linux_galore, says it depends on Depends on:  KDE 3.4.x
[04:07] <AkariChan> omg
[04:07] <fensta> oooh there it went
[04:07] <AkariChan> i love debs!!!!
[04:08] <rukuartic> N2DIY: Alt+f2 brings up a run line like "Start>Run" indoze
[04:08] <Pmafia> can i use it still?
[04:08] <Linux_Junkie> no mouse needed.
[04:08] <aP> after doing startx -- :1
[04:08] <linux_galore> Pmafia: I run kde not gnome
[04:08] <Slant_Mobile> ZeZu: libsdl will always try to initialize the sequencer, and will pop a warning if it can't. However, it shouldn't affect execution.
[04:08] <fensta> now it goes to ubuntu login.. but for some reason it shows kubuntu screen as it is loading packages
[04:08] <linux_galore> Pmafia: yes if you have kde installed
[04:08] <Pmafia> i thgouth kde and gnome where interchangable with the programs?
[04:08] <ZeZu> Slant_Mobile, ok i'll keep looking then and see what causes the segfault
[04:08] <Linux_Junkie> fensta,  are you trying to use gnome instead of kde ?
[04:08] <rukuartic> N2DIY: And I could help ya find progs to work int he console too XD
[04:08] <Linux_Junkie> Pmafia, they are.
[04:08] <fensta> I want gnome
[04:08] <fensta> not kde
[04:08] <linux_galore> Pmafia: you can run kde app under gnome but you need to have kde installed
[04:08] <amphi> aP: that's odd - just kill that X server then
[04:09] <ZeZu> Slant_Mobile, i prob do something else stupid like a bad filename (case is bad or such)
[04:09] <Linux_Junkie> fensta, perhaps reconfigure /etc/rc.conf
[04:09] <aP> amphi: how ?
[04:09] <Pmafia> im completly lost now
[04:09] <amphi> aP: alt-ctrl-backspace
[04:09] <Pmafia> i thought KDE was a OS
[04:09] <linux_galore> fensta: did you install gnome
[04:09] <Slant_Mobile> ZeZu: Compile your program with -g, and then run gdb against it?
[04:09] <aP> amphi: that just restarts it
[04:09] <imbrandon> no kde is a windows manager just like gnome
[04:09] <Slant_Mobile> ZeZu: I assume you did that and the error is coming from SDL somewhere?
[04:09] <fensta> ya it was isntalled with ubuntu
[04:09] <amphi> aP: you're running two x servers, right?
[04:09] <fensta> I am happy with it now I guess... the login screen is correct
[04:09] <Slant_Mobile> (It sucks that libsdl isn't compiled with debugging symbols, though you can fix that.)
[04:09] <aP> amphi: yea
[04:09] <amphi> kde is a desktop environment, not a window manager
[04:09] <fensta> is there a way to shutdown ubuntu in gnome without logging out first?
[04:09] <bosco> is there a way to repartition my hard drive and still leave ubuntu installed i need 10gb partitioned
[04:10] <ZeZu> Slant_Mobile, nope, never used gdb before
[04:10] <Slant_Mobile> ZeZu: I'll private message and step you through it, if you want?
[04:10] <ZeZu> sure
[04:10] <Slant_Mobile> gdb is "easy", once you're told the commands.
[04:10] <Pmafia> gnome is a desktop environment too?
[04:10] <aP> amphi: my amarok on the other xserver is still playing
[04:10] <amphi> aP: and the second one respawns? I don't use a ?dm myself
[04:10] <Linux_Junkie> amphi, kde, gnome, e-17 all work on top of X windows.
[04:10] <jadaz87> i installed kdm and now when i start my laptop it comes up to tty1 instead of the kdm loading and kdm is in /etc/init.d
[04:10] <aP> amphi: i dunno what to do, i want to kill xserver on :1
[04:10] <linux_galore> Pmafia: yes Linux unlike windos doesnt have just one desktop
[04:10] <bosco> is there a way to repartition my hard drive and still leave ubuntu installed i need 10gb partitioned
[04:10] <Linux_Junkie> jadaz87, might wanna start xdm by default.
[04:10] <aP> amphi: i can't switch to ctrl+alt+f7
[04:10] <aP> anymore
[04:10] <amphi> Linux_Junkie: that's the 'X window system' or 'X' </pedant>
[04:10] <NickGarvey> bosco: of coures
[04:11] <ZeZu> Slant_Mobile, yea my emulator even supports gdb if you believe that one
[04:11] <linux_galore> Pmafia: you have to think of Linux as being like lego, things can be changed and swapped out to your tasts
[04:11] <N2DIY> rkuartic: I'd like to have the mouse, I'm going to try the reconfigure option now.
[04:11] <Slant_Mobile> ZeZu: Stubs?
[04:11] <bosco> NickGarvey,  well how do i get 10 gb free to install another OS
[04:11] <ZeZu> you can use insight and do source level debugging
[04:11] <imbrandon> jadaz87: you need to reconfigure x it sounds like ( "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" )
[04:11] <Slant_Mobile> ZeZu: Remote stubs?
[04:11] <ZeZu> yes
[04:11] <jadaz87> Linux_Junkie i already have kdm as the defauly dm
[04:11] <Slant_Mobile> ZeZu: That's awesome.
[04:11] <Slant_Mobile> I just priv-messaged.
[04:11] <jadaz87> imbrandon all i did was install kubuntu-desktop
[04:11] <amphi> aP: strange - what about ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[04:11] <ZeZu> Slant_Mobile, sure you got the right person ?
[04:11] <aP> amphi: none of them
[04:11] <aP> amphi: can i just log out?
[04:11] <linux_galore> Pmafia: nothing is truly a default in Linux
[04:11] <linux_galore> Pmafia: everything can be changed
[04:12] <Slant_Mobile> ZeZu: Yeah.... weird. I just priv-messaged.. One sec, let me try again.
[04:12] <Pmafia> indeed, so ive learned
[04:12] <Slant_Mobile> Oh, lame.
[04:12] <imbrandon> jadaz87: did you dist-upgrade too? if not might be a good idea
[04:12] <Slant_Mobile> I need ot reigster.
[04:12] <amphi> aP: dunno, I don't use a ?dm - I expect it'll respawn
[04:12] <Slant_Mobile> One sec, I'll use SLant.
[04:12] <Slant_Mobile> Brb.
[04:12] <ZeZu> ok
[04:12] <NickGarvey> bosco: look into partitioning and gparted using google
[04:12] <Pmafia> is there anychange of me running that dock on my ubuntu?
[04:12] <Linux_Junkie> heh the gentoo channel isn't nearly this active.
[04:12] <cesar> boa noite....
[04:12] <Pmafia> any chance*
[04:12] <amphi> aP: you'll have to kill it from a term perhaps
[04:12] <doms> halow were i can get for rope for my breezy badger beside the mulitunivers and universe
[04:12] <Linux_Junkie> Pmafia, dock ??
[04:12] <bosco> NickGarvey, kk
[04:12] <doms> i mean repo
[04:12] <Pmafia> that dock bar
[04:12] <linux_galore> Pmafia: yes just install kde
[04:12] <Slant_Mobile> ZeZu: I just switched to the dev channel.
[04:12] <Pmafia> how can i install kDE?
[04:12] <Apostle^> amphi: now i'm back on the other x after logging out of the other
[04:12] <cesar> alguem do brasil?
[04:12] <sifl_> what's the name of the pkg that allows u to run the make command....i thought it was build-essentials, but i cant seem to find it
[04:13] <linux_galore> Pmafia: with the package manager
[04:13] <Apostle^> amphi: but how do i set it so i can switch with the ctrl #'s
[04:13] <linux_galore> Pmafia: you need to read up on it
[04:13] <imbrandon> Pmafia: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:13] <NickGarvey> !tell Pmafia about kde
[04:13] <amphi> Apostle^: cool - strange that you couldn't switch VTs
[04:13] <amphi> sifl_: make is installed by build-essential
[04:13] <jadaz87> imbrandon sudo: dist-upgrade: command not found
[04:13] <doms> halow were i can get for repo for my breezy badger beside the mulitunivers and universe
[04:14] <imbrandon> jadaz87: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:14] <Pmafia> imbrandon, what does this command exactly do?  apt-get install kubuntu-desktop......does it download straight from a website?
[04:14] <jadaz87> imbrandon nothing needs to be upgraded
[04:14] <sifl_> thx amphi u'd think i woulda thought to search just for essential rather than essential
[04:14] <linux_galore> Pmafia: yes
[04:14] <sifl_> essentials
[04:14] <Pmafia> so its okay to install kubuntu over ubuntu?
[04:15] <imbrandon> ok jadaz87then i would reconfigure x if it was me, shouldent have to BUT that should fix it anyhow
[04:15] <linux_galore> Pmafia: it doesnt overwrite anything it just adds the kde desktop
[04:15] <imbrandon> Pmafia: yes it installs kde from the ubuntu website
[04:15] <astro9040> hello
[04:15] <imbrandon> Pmafia:  yes
[04:15] <linux_galore> Pmafia: think lego, add some pieces as you go
[04:15] <Pmafia> and if i want gnome back i use " apt-get install "buntu-desktop"
[04:15] <astro9040> can anyone explain to me why ubuntu is a good linux distro
[04:15] <jadaz87> imbrandon what is the command for that?
[04:16] <linux_galore> Pmafia: it doesnt remove anything
[04:16] <imbrandon> no you can choose eithern one at login once both are installed Pmafia
[04:16] <linux_galore> Pmafia: its adding
[04:16] <Pmafia> really?
[04:16] <Pmafia> thats sweet
[04:16] <jadaz87> astro9040 for one look at how many people are in here giving//for support
[04:16] <regeya> astro9040: sure!  after this, we'll discuss why the nonexistence of god has to be taken purely on faith. *wink*
[04:16] <Pmafia> how can i set one as defualt though? and interchange ect... is there a readme, or is it simple?
[04:16] <doms> halow were i can get for repo for my breezy badger beside the mulitunivers and universe
[04:16] <imbrandon> jadaz87: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:16] <linux_galore> astro9040: simplicity
[04:17] <thugren> Hey I am need some help getting the root account active.. On Ubuntu 5.10..
[04:17] <astro9040> jadaz87, thats true
[04:17] <thugren> 64 bit
[04:17] <thugren> ;)
[04:17] <linux_galore> Pmafia: when you login you can select the desktop gnome/kde
[04:17] <NickGarvey> !tell thugren about root
[04:17] <imbrandon> Pmafia: at the login screen there  is a "sessions' button you can choose there before you login but if you just leave it alone it will use your last choice as "default"
[04:17] <thugren> i have do the SU..
[04:17] <astro9040> linux_galore, is it really that simple once u learn it, how is the learning curve on this thing
[04:17] <linux_galore> Pmafia: theres a menuin the login screen
[04:17] <noisy_1> how do I tell if my cp is complete?
[04:17] <jadaz87> astro9040, i believe it has the best support for consumer computers especially laptops
[04:17] <imbrandon> Pmafia: at the login screen there  is a "sessions' button you can choose there before you login but if you just leave it alone it will use your last choice as "default"
[04:17] <thugren> But I can't get the password to run
[04:17] <linux_galore> astro9040: anything new has a learning curve
[04:17] <jadaz87> astro9040, hotkeys work right off the bat
[04:17] <Pmafia> nice...
[04:18] <astro9040> jadaz87, u mean hardware
[04:18] <thugren> I get an error /etc/password can not be changed?
[04:18] <jadaz87> astro9040, they will be supporting Broadcom wireless chipset with dapper
[04:18] <noisy_1> I'm addicted to penguin
[04:18] <Pmafia> if i have kubuntu, i use the command " apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" to get gnome, vice versa right?
[04:18] <linux_galore> Pmafia: just select kde or gnome
[04:18] <Linux_Junkie> thugren, try to log in as root
[04:18] <jadaz87> astro9040, yes hardware
[04:18] <IceTox> what?
[04:18] <astro9040> jadaz87, ooh i just got rid of a laptop that had broadcom too
[04:18] <sifl_> has anyone else had issues w/ installing ati drivers and the OpenGL renderer string still comes up as Mesa
[04:18] <imbrandon> brb installed new kernel gonna reboot
[04:18] <IceTox> oh, I knew it wasn't a good idea to have penguin highlighted
[04:18] <noisy_1> How do I tell if my cp is complete? will the cp from ps dissapear?
[04:18] <Linux_Junkie> thugren, and does your user have the group wheel added to it ?
[04:18] <jerware> !java
[04:18] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:19] <mikomiko> how do i change password
[04:19] <NickGarvey> mikomiko: man passwd
[04:19] <sifl_> passwd
[04:19] <jerware> !java jre
[04:19] <ubotu> jerware: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:19] <linux_galore> or just grab the easyubuntu script
[04:19] <imbrandon> passwd <username>
[04:19] <Linux_Junkie> mikomiko, as root "passwd (user)"
[04:19] <linux_galore> jerware: grab the easyubuntu script
[04:19] <Pmafia> linux_galore, imsaying if i installed kubuntu from scratch, and i wanted to install gnome since kubuntu is KDE, i would have to type in " apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" to get kde
[04:19] <Linux_Junkie> mikomiko, just passwd will change root pasword.
[04:19] <Pmafia> i mean gnom
[04:19] <jadaz87> astro9040, :-\ they have support for Broadcom with Dapper Drake which comes out in June, they have done this and Broadcom itself has not come out with linux drivers
[04:20] <darx> hi guys. help needed. mplayer plugin for firefox spawns multiple video windows. any ideas???
[04:20] <linux_galore> Pmafia: if you installed kubuntu yes you can install the gnome desktop
[04:20] <NickGarvey> astro9040: ndiswrapper
[04:20] <imbrandon> Pmafia: correct
[04:20] <regeya> astro9040: more seriously, you've got an actively-developed desktop in which the current release is only updated with service releases.  now, the 'stable' release only lasts (in theory) 6 months, rather than the years that debian releases may be out.  further, it's focused primarily on desktop; desktop isn't an afterthought or a side-project.  it isn't solely aimed at ricers, sysadmins, etc. as other popular distros are.  final
[04:20] <regeya> stribution is very high-quality.  ok, one more finally:  many ubuntu devs also happen to be major smarties involved in some pretty impressive projects.
[04:20] <astro9040> jadaz87, i notice its not good with programs i download
[04:20] <Linux_Junkie> Pmafia, you an even run kde and gnome at the same time.
[04:20] <sifl_> darx: get automatix it'll work wonders
[04:20] <NickGarvey> wait what
[04:20] <Pmafia> by using this command " apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" correct?
[04:20] <Linux_Junkie> pmafia by directing them to different displays
[04:20] <darx> i'm on dapper
[04:20] <jadaz87> astro9040, what do you mean?
[04:20] <sifl_> eh
[04:20] <Pmafia> Linux_Junkie, really? sweet, wouldnt that use more memory ?
[04:21] <sifl_> soon enough they'll make a script for it
[04:21] <imbrandon> Pmafia: correct
[04:21] <Linux_Junkie> Pmafia, yeah, but you have the option to do so.
[04:21] <darx> dapper doesn't support automatix.. or does it??
[04:21] <Linux_Junkie> Pmafia, welcome to freedom.
[04:21] <regeya> !automatix
[04:21] <ubotu> automatix is probably unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[04:21] <Pmafia> lol
[04:21] <Pmafia> thanks guys
[04:21] <linux_galore> Pmafia: more software you run the more memory it uses, thats a fact of life
[04:21] <astro9040> jadaz87, like rpm's
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> dark, no automatix does not support dapper
[04:21] <regeya> afaik no release supports automatix.  it's an unsupported piece of software.
[04:21] <Pmafia> thanks guys
[04:21] <imbrandon> automatix == devil
[04:21] <astro9040> regeya, u mean finish no?
[04:21] <N2DIY> Ok, I did the reconfigure, and I'm restarting now.
[04:21] <DCampbell> Hi everyone.
[04:21] <riverz> anyone got any ideas what might be causing firefox and mozilla to freeze up?
[04:21] <linux_galore> isnt automatix broken
[04:22] <cafuego> astro9040: Ubuntu comes with nearly 19,000 software apckages. it's unlikely you need to download anything.
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> riverz, hwo fast? it could be leaking to death
[04:22] <Linux_Junkie> riverz, start it from console and see where it hangs
[04:22] <darx> why does mplayer plugin spawn these multiple windows?
[04:22] <imbrandon> i hope so linux_galore
[04:22] <imbrandon> lol
[04:22] <linux_galore> Ive been using easyubuntu to install java/flash/codecs
[04:22] <jadaz87> astro9040, ubuntu is a debian based, which means it uses debian files <.deb> not rpms
[04:22] <regeya> astro9040: let's back up a bit and help me put your question in context :-}
[04:22] <jadaz87> !tell astro9040 about alien
[04:22] <DCampbell> I've got a slight problem; I can't get into synaptic or other admin packages. Ubuntu always returns the "bad password" error, or one like the following:
[04:22] <riverz> starting it from console
[04:22] <riverz> it seems every time an applet trys to load it leaks out
[04:22] <linux_galore> its funny as soon as easyubuntu came out a week later easysuse came out
[04:22] <astro9040> jadaz87, i heard alien wasnt good to use on system files
[04:22] <DCampbell> " Failed to run /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator: Child terminated with 1 status"
[04:23] <Linux_Junkie> riverz, there should be some verbose information.
[04:23] <astro9040> jadaz87, or essential
[04:23] <sifl_> has anyone else had issues w/ installing ati drivers and the OpenGL renderer string still comes up as Mesa
[04:23] <jadaz87> astro9040, just download the debian version
[04:23] <slew> how can i tell my opengl version?
[04:23] <tehmiller> anyone have a moment to offer a little help as to why in the world I cant get configure to recognize the gtk2.0-dev pkg I have installed?
[04:23] <jerware> any one ever install java via,   sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[04:23] <jerware>   ?  must i edit $PATH manually?
[04:23] <intelikey> crimsun it was initrd.img  problem.... it boots now :)
[04:23] <riverz> is there a possibility for me to get ubuntu to run on my ps2? it is debian based
[04:23] <darx> guess i'll have to live with it.......jeez its so frustrating....
[04:23] <Linux_Junkie> riverz, hmmm not sure.
[04:23] <rukuartic> riverz: Yes its debian based.
[04:23] <astro9040> jadaz87, is the version im using now ubuntu?
[04:23] <jadaz87> astro9040, either check the repositories for the software you need it has a vast library or you can download the debian file for the install
[04:23] <amphi> tehmiller: what is the error message? (just the gtk line)
[04:23] <riverz> take the ubuntu dist. and use a mips kernel?
[04:24] <Kteeh> hi there, I'm having problem with breezy trying to reconigze my USB flash device without restarting hotplug. I mean, I need to restart hotplug before I can read my USB flash device
[04:24] <noisy_1> ps2?
[04:24] <imbrandon> riverz: good question, try it and tell us, i have ubuntu running on 2 of my xboxes ( classic )
[04:24] <astro9040> jadaz87, and i use dpkg on that one right
[04:24] <bigjaws> Greetings... lame newbie question...  I just DL Thunderbird, but have no clue how to install... Anyone want to give me a hand?
[04:24] <rukuartic> imbrandon: Howdja do that?
[04:24] <Linux_Junkie> Kteeh, manually restart the hotplugin init.d script ?
[04:24] <riverz> noisy_1 yeah mipsEEl kernel and ubuntu?
[04:24] <astro9040> jadaz87, the .deb file i mean
[04:24] <tehmiller> amphi: in checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.0.0 it isnt finding it
[04:24] <Kteeh> Breezy seems to be lost I don't know when the USB flash is connected, I have always to restart
[04:24] <imbrandon> rukuartic: softmod's
[04:24] <rukuartic> bigjaws: Didja check the wiki?
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> bigjaws: No need to download.
[04:24] <Kteeh> Linux_Junkie, that works but I don't wanna do that all the time
[04:24] <linux_galore> Ive also got nexenta installed. basically Ubuntu apps built on opensolaris, its weird
[04:24] <darx> sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> bigjaws: Just apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird and be done with it.
[04:24] <darx> thats easier
[04:24] <amphi> tehmiller: what does it find?
[04:25] <noisy_1> apt-get is a wonderful thing
[04:25] <jadaz87> astro9040, ubuntu is the operating system name like window, and breezy or 5.10 is the version system
[04:25] <doms> halow were i can get for repo for my breezy badger beside the mulitunivers and universe
[04:25] <riverz> ahh
[04:25] <riverz> console isnt working
[04:25] <catholikos> hello all
[04:25] <tonyyarusso> darx: mozilla-thunderbird is the package name, btw.
[04:25] <Kteeh> after I write /etc/init.d/hotplug restart it works but is mounted as root, so, I can't modify the files via "normal user"
[04:25] <jadaz87> astro9040, yes you whould use: sudo dpkg -i <nameofdebfile>.deb
[04:25] <darx> sorry
[04:25] <bigjaws> Where can you get a list of all the ap-get programs?
[04:25] <Kteeh> any suggestio?
[04:25] <riverz> repository sites
[04:25] <noisy_1> sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[04:25] <astro9040> jadaz87, ok
[04:25] <darx> sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[04:25] <intelikey> doms main and restricted
[04:25] <catholikos> i just have installed ubuntu
[04:25] <darx> there you go
[04:25] <Linux_Junkie> Kteeh,  is it a usb hd ?
[04:25] <noisy_1> beat ya to it darx ;P
[04:25] <tonyyarusso> bigjaws: Umm...there are 18,000.  That would be quite the list.
[04:25] <imbrandon> brb one sec
[04:25] <bigjaws> thanks for the info...
[04:25] <linux_galore> bigjaws: apt can search your repository
[04:26] <catholikos> what to do next?
[04:26] <sifl_> just run apt-cache search <string you're looking for>
[04:26] <darx> lol
[04:26] <ZeZu> !w32codecs
[04:26] <ubotu> [w32codecs]  a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[04:26] <riverz> use synaptic to get the package lists
[04:26] <Thinjon100> Why do any of the apps that require the root password (Admin screens, "Add Applications") ask for the password, then never appear?
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> bigjaws: Better to do things like 'apt-cache search thunderbird' to find them.
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> bigjaws: Or use Synaptic.
[04:26] <astro9040> so is the version dapper better than breezy?
[04:26] <noisy_1> its newer
[04:26] <doms> halow were i can get for repo for my breezy badger beside the mulitunivers and universe and also main and restricted
[04:26] <noisy_1> it really just depends what you want to do with it
[04:26] <catholikos> thx
[04:26] <intelikey> Thinjon100 because you are not inputting your user password ?>
[04:26] <Linux_Junkie> I am gonna have to make a partition for ubuntu one of these days.
[04:26] <N2DIY> Still no mouse, what were the keyboard commands for accessing menus again? I can't keep up with all traffic here, and configure the box in the other room!
[04:26] <jadaz87> astro9040, it is newer it is in beta state right now but as soon as Jne 1st comes around it will be up to par and then you can upgrade
[04:27] <riverz> im going to see if i can get my ps2 linux box to fire up today... its being a bitch lately
[04:27] <jadaz87> !language
[04:27] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[04:27] <Linux_Junkie> interested to play around in a binary world.
[04:27] <noisy_1> why are you running linux on a ps2?
[04:27] <Thinjon100> I know I'm getting the password right.. .same password I use for "su" when I run things from commandline :-\
[04:27] <sifl_> someone told me that everyone using old ubuntu can run a command that updates to dapper once it's complete...is this true?
[04:27] <riverz> its a strong 128bit machine
[04:27] <DCampbell> Thinjon: I just found this on Google; had the same problem.
[04:27] <noisy_1> lol
[04:27] <astro9040> jadaz87, ok
[04:27] <DCampbell> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-38211.html
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> sifl_: Yes.
[04:27] <noisy_1> can you use keyboards and mice in the usb on ps2?
[04:27] <DCampbell> Dunno how secure or safe it is, though.
[04:27] <riverz> sifl_ you have to change the sources.list file and run apt-get dist upgrade
[04:28] <jadaz87> sifl_ yes from old ubuntu>hoary>breezy>dapper where ever the old version is
[04:28] <astro9040> jadaz87, i see what your saying
[04:28] <doms> halow were i can get for repo for my breezy badger beside the mulitunivers and universe and also main and restricted
[04:28] <jadaz87> astro9040, yeap :-)
[04:28] <DCampbell> I'm able to use synaptic because of the fix, though.
[04:28] <jadaz87> astro9040, hold on i will brb
[04:28] <Kteeh> Linux Junkie, it is a usb flash drive
[04:28] <jadaz87> astro9040, reboot
[04:28] <astro9040> jadaz87, k let me know when your back
[04:28] <Kteeh> 512 MB and 128 MB, I have no problems reading, the only problem is...I don't wanna restart the hotplug each time
[04:28] <jadaz87> astro9040, sure thing
[04:28] <Apostle^> gh!ati
[04:28] <intelikey> anyone dubuntu on dapper ?  is it buggy atm ?
[04:28] <Apostle^> !ati
[04:28] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:29] <lgc> _jason, hi. Do you know how I can make my gnomebaker work (apparently, the cdrom unit mounts readonly, ignoring the fstab settings)?
[04:29] <N2DIY> How do I navigate without a mouse?
[04:29] <Kumo> hi guys, I have some troubles with the gnome-settings-daemon
[04:29] <Breezy-CA> I keep finding my Breezy box at the Ubuntu login screen. When I check log files I see that gconfd has received signal 15 and shut down; there is also a gdm_slave_xioerror_handler msg "Fatal X error - restarting: 0". This has happened repeatedly. I have checked RAM, kept an eye on CPU temps, checked for a root kit ... what could be causing this? Where to look ?
[04:29] <ahmeni> N2DIY: Depends on the desktop, for KDE it's ctrl-escape
[04:29] <catholikos> synaptic does not show any new updates
[04:29] <imbrandon> intelikey: no ive been running dapper a long time no bugs to speak of, but dapper talk is in #ubuntu+1 not here
[04:29] <riverz> how do i solve a memory leak problem
[04:29] <intelikey> N2DIY [tab]   [<]  [>]  [^]  .....
[04:30] <N2DIY> ahmeni, ok I think I'm running gnome?
[04:30] <noisy_1> riverz, you have to get out of the river to fix the leak
[04:30] <lgc> _eins, _zwei?
[04:30] <intelikey> imbrandon that wasn't dapper talk that was a simple question.
[04:30] <intelikey> and tanks...
[04:30] <dc22> hey guys, i'm new to linux and after getting a new computer and installing ubuntu 5.10 I cannot get into a gaphical interface, x.org gives me errors (most likely due to my geforce 6100) Is there a way to fix this without an internet connection? (I have one here, but not on that comp (temporarily))
[04:30] <N2DIY> intelikey, roger, I'll give that a try too.
[04:30] <imbrandon> hehe i konw thats why i awnsered it ;)
[04:30] <riverz> noisy_1 . o0 ?
[04:30] <noisy_1> sorry, bad pun
[04:31] <riverz> whats the general procedure
[04:31] <noisy_1> I don't know
[04:31] <Kumo> does anybody knows how to fix something with the gnome-settings-daemon?
[04:31] <riverz> run it from console and see where it floods out?
[04:31] <AkariChan> noisy_1: wow, i couldn't believe that ubuntu just became my favourite distro of all in 2 hours.
[04:31] <noisy_1> I thought linux was immune to mem leaks
[04:31] <Apostle^> i'm trying to get ati drivers working .................. i have followed the wiki, but fglrxinfo always shows mesa indirect
[04:31] <intelikey> noisy_1 lol  no.
[04:31] <amphi> Apostle^: what card?
[04:31] <noisy_1> I know akari, it owns
[04:31] <noisy_1> feel free to hug your computer
[04:31] <Apostle^> amphi: x700 a previous guide had me add fglrx to disabled modules, is this the problem ?
[04:31] <imbrandon> dc22: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:31] <N2DIY> noisy_1, no way, that is why I'm dumping my FC1 box.
[04:31] <ahmeni> dc22: without knowing the errors it's impossible for us to tell, paste the error at pastebin.com
[04:31] <AkariChan> i did... now i am getting this lappy to run it as well
[04:32] <opiate> how do I display files in the html directory for apache?
[04:32] <catholikos> where do i get good list for updates?
[04:32] <Apostle^> amphi: i want to use the ATI provided drivers
[04:32] <amphi> Apostle^: I don't know about fglrx, my old card is supported by the xorg driver
[04:32] <riverz> then what else would be causing firefox or mozilla to freeze up?
[04:32] <AkariChan> i love apt-get now, once i figured ohw to use universe
[04:32] <Apostle^> amphi: i need direct rendering
[04:32] <noisy_1> :) Ubuntu will be my distro of choice after I get this Debian fileserver going
[04:32] <Apostle^> amphi: the ati driver  = fglrx right ?
[04:32] <dc22> ahmeni: it says that there are no devices detected
[04:32] <amphi> Apostle^: I have direct rendering with the free driver here
[04:32] <Apostle^> amphi: which one
[04:33] <amphi> Apostle^: yes, fglrx is the proprietary ati driver I believe
[04:33] <ubuntu_rocks> how do I display files in the html directory for apache?
[04:33] <noisy_1> FC1 N2?
[04:33] <Apostle^> amphi: so then i need to remove fglrx from restricted modules yes?
[04:33] <amphi> Apostle^: it's an old card
[04:33] <noisy_1> have you tried FC5?
[04:33] <amphi> Apostle^: no idea about fglrx I'm afraid
[04:33] <intelikey> ok i think i'll work on getting my sound and X working now.....    see j'all  .
[04:33] <N2DIY> How do I access my drop down menus without a mouse?
[04:33] <ubuntu_owns> yeah, was using fc5 before this.
[04:33] <noisy_1> like ubuntu more?
[04:33] <riverz> just build your kernel with everything as modules, it doesnt make a performance difference these days
[04:33] <jadaz87> imbrandom no it does not it still comes up to tty1 :'( this needs to be fixed
[04:34] <Kumo> any help with the gnome-settings-daemon?
[04:34] <riverz> change the driver in the xorg.conf to fglrx and it should work
[04:34] <themachine> what is currently the fastest programming language?
[04:34] <riverz> add dri as a module line
[04:34] <jadaz87> themachine asm
[04:34] <noisy_1> fortran
[04:34] <EricBetts> themachine, lol
[04:34] <themachine> thanks
[04:34] <jadaz87> themachine but it is a pain to right in since it is a low level language
[04:35] <themachine> well a high level should optimize itself
[04:35] <doms> halow were i can get for repo for my breezy badger beside the mulitunivers and universe and also main and restricted
[04:35] <jadaz87> themachine asm = assembler btw
[04:35] <ubuntu_owns> one thing noisy, know any program that works like flashget?
[04:35] <themachine> so it runs like a low level
[04:35] <amphi> themachine: not overly portable, you should use portable asm, ie. c ;)
[04:35] <go1dfish> c/c++ can get near asm speed
[04:35] <ubuntu_owns> a program that streams different parts of a file to download
[04:35] <go1dfish> depending on what your doing
[04:35] <riverz> anyone messed with blackrhino?
[04:35] <Breezy-CA> Pls - any thoughts? -- I keep finding my Breezy box at the Ubuntu login screen. When I check log files I see that gconfd has received signal 15 and shut down; there is also a gdm_slave_xioerror_handler msg "Fatal X error - restarting: 0". This has happened repeatedly. I have checked RAM, kept an eye on CPU temps, checked for a root kit ... what could be causing this? Where to look ?
[04:36] <jadaz87> astro9040, i am back
[04:36] <N2DIY> How can I access my drop down menus without a mouse?
[04:36] <themachine> would it be possible to make c++'s syntax look like python?
[04:36] <linux_galore> doms always google for them
[04:36] <blindx> how can i get transparency in ubuntu?
[04:36] <amphi> N2DIY: alt-$UNDERLINED_LETTER ?
[04:36] <astro9040> jadaz87, do u know anything about broken packages
[04:36] <ro> how do you run glxgears and give the framerate?
[04:36] <N2DIY> amphi, Thank you.
[04:36] <amphi> N2DIY: can you not just switch to a console?
[04:36] <jadaz87> astro9040 broken packages?
[04:36] <lgc> Has anyone had problems with their Gnomebaker? Help!
[04:36] <noisy_1> how do I make cd disregard caps in filenames?
[04:37] <noisy_1> err folders
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: tell blindx about xgl
[04:37] <astro9040> jadaz87, yeah like how to fix them cause i cant get this one off my system
[04:37] <blindx> tonyyarusso, im on breezy
[04:37] <amphi> noisy_1: rename them?
[04:37] <noisy_1> bah
[04:37] <linux_galore> Breezy-CA: try booting the machine on a liveCD see if it stays up
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> blindx: I think you're out of luck then.
[04:37] <blindx> :\
[04:38] <linux_galore> Breezy-CA: Im thinking it could be your screen saver
[04:38] <N2DIY> amphi, yes I can, I already tried reconfiguring X, and there are no underline letters on my GUI!?
[04:38] <jadaz87> astro9040 no i do not :-( there should be a option in synaptic to take care of broekn packages
[04:38] <catholikos> how do i get recent package ressources?
[04:39] <Breezy-CA> linux_galore,  I forgot: I disabled power management in the screen saver
[04:39] <amphi> N2DIY: there's a serial mouse howto at tldp.org IIRC; you could use a console browser like lynx or w3m to read it ;)
[04:39] <ubuntu_rocks> anyone any good with apache?
[04:39] <amphi> !anyone
[04:39] <ubotu> a large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[04:39] <rukuartic> ubuntu_rocks: #apache?
[04:39] <ubuntu_rocks> thanks
[04:39] <astro9040> jadaz87, yeah im still new to ubuntu but i think i've tried in there o well
[04:39] <rukuartic> :P
[04:40] <jadaz87> astro9040 hold on let me look
[04:40] <N2DIY> amphi, fine business, I can go there from this box, Ubuntu is currently running on my test box.
[04:40] <linux_galore> Breezy-CA: I set the screen saver to a blank screen
[04:40] <noisy_1> I'm in love with PuTTY
[04:40] <noisy_1> O_O
[04:40] <AkariChan> putty is great
[04:40] <AkariChan> i used it since working with an AIX
[04:40] <Breezy-CA> linux_galore,  Not disregarding the live-CD suggestion ... would take being up for several days, though, to show anything one way or the other ... sometimes happens in a few hours, mostly after being up for several days
[04:40] <astro9040> jadaz87, alright
[04:40] <zcat[1] > oes anyone know why people don't just ask the question right away?
[04:40] <AkariChan> zcat[1] : they wanna be polite>
[04:40] <zcat[1] > hehe
[04:41] <amphi> heh
[04:41] <AkariChan> or theyre too dumb to figure out even the question.
[04:41] <zcat[1] > "does anyone.." :)
[04:41] <AkariChan> sad.
[04:41] <linux_galore> Breezy-CA: Ive had issues with machines, most times I track them to motherboard problems, could be a cap failing after a while
[04:41] <jadaz87> astro9040, ok go to synaptic and on the bottom select custom
[04:41] <ro> What's a good generic benchmarking tool?
[04:41] <Breezy-CA> linux_galore - OK, I've reset the screensaver to blank screen ... sorry to do it, though; I find it entertaining
[04:41] <AkariChan> woot got wine working
[04:41] <jadaz87> astro9040, then select broken on the left
[04:41] <nickrud> bogomips
[04:41] <AkariChan> i love ubuntoooooooO
[04:41] <noisy_1> "I was sorta just kinda wondering if some one could help me with something"
[04:41] <AkariChan> uuU
[04:41] <Apostle^> im having trouble with the fglrx drivers can somone help?
[04:41] <Breezy-CA> linux_galore,  I hope it's not a mobo issue ... don't want to spend money (naturally)
[04:42] <jadaz87> astro9040, the broken packages should come up in the right right
[04:42] <ice_1963> lol
[04:42] <jadaz87> astro9040, are you trying to get rid of these or reinstall?
[04:42] <mike_> putty?
[04:42] <linux_galore> Breezy-CA: In general Ive found Linux more stable than the physical hardware lol
[04:42] <akcom> is it legitimate to install linux & windows on different partitions of the same harddrive? I mean, can I boot both of them using something like grub?
[04:42] <dc22> yes
[04:42] <astro9040> i can't reinstall i dont have the dependencies so uninstall
[04:42] <zcat[1] > akcom: yes
[04:42] <themachine> what type of compiler will highlight sections of code while running and show where the "PC's point of view" is?
[04:42] <amphi> akcom: yes
[04:42] <akcom> ok, so windows doesnt need to be the primary partition or anything?
[04:43] <jadaz87> astro9040, rightclick on the packages and select complete removal
[04:43] <zcat[1] > install windows first, otherwise it will overwrite grub..
[04:43] <amphi> themachine: gdb is perhaps what you want, and/or ddd
[04:43] <lgc> PLEASE HELP ME WITH cdrecord CONFIGURATION!
[04:43] <B166ER> ok, i'm in IRSSI, and need serious help, i cannot load in gnome, there is an error just after the login screen...i cannot paste it, but i could send the error log ...can someone help ?
[04:43] <jadaz87> !caps
[04:43] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[04:43] <linux_galore> Breezy-CA: you can always open the machine and heat set parts of the motherboard with a hair dryer see if it fails
[04:43] <akcom> zcat[1] , thats not much of a problem i can just install grub afterwards
[04:43] <themachine> thanks amphi
[04:43] <amphi> lgc: what's the problem
[04:43] <Breezy-CA> linux_galore - true old-time bench tech :)
[04:43] <amphi> lgc: ?
[04:43] <rukuartic> B166ER: Does it have anything to do with .ICEauthority or something like that?
[04:43] <Breezy-CA> May do it too :)
[04:43] <TokenBad> ok I mounted a partition and everything that goes there goes so that I can't access it except as root...or something...anyone tell me how to fix it?
[04:44] <zcat[1] > install windows and leave half the drive unallocated.. then install ubuntu and the grub package is smart enough to set up dual boot for you
[04:44] <jadaz87> astro9040, hold on i will be back i need to uninstall kde
[04:44] <B166ER> rukuartic, nope, i can handle the .ICEauthority error :) but its the same result...
[04:44] <lgc> jadaz87, noone seems to have answered otherwise, except for trying to teach me manners!
[04:44] <rukuartic> B166ER: Whats it say? Don't know if I can help
[04:44] <amphi> lgc: what's the problem?
[04:44] <linux_galore> Breezy-CA: could be something as dumb as dust in a pin contact
[04:44] <astro9040> jadaz87, np
[04:45] <Breezy-CA> linux_galore, hate to think about that ... but maybe I should buy some canned air and blow it out again
[04:45] <lgc> amphi, the thing is that with both k3b and Gnomebaker I get that cdrecord can't get the operation through. It seems the unit is configured readonly.
[04:45] <linux_galore> Breezy-CA: canned air is hit an miss, tooth brush and pcb cleaner work better
[04:45] <yoink23> anyone here happen to have any help for me with this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=164456
[04:46] <amphi> lgc: what happens if you use cdrecord? the error message might be more informative
[04:46] <noisy_1> is there a way to compare one folder to another (I want to see if all files are identical) ?
[04:46] <B166ER> rukuartic : unable to create /?(C).gnome2 directy, : permission denied       impossible to create a config file for the user /home/ghost/.gnome2 permission denied
[04:46] <linux_galore> Breezy-CA: just use mums vacuum cleaner lol
[04:46] <rukuartic> noisy_1: md5sum
[04:46] <Breezy-CA> lol
[04:46] <noisy_1> sum <foldername> ?
[04:46] <B166ER> rukuartic    minus the ?(C) part
[04:46] <chatboy> !mp3
[04:46] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:46] <skpl_> can someone help me? my music player keeps crashing
[04:46] <Breezy-CA> *then* buy the new mobo
[04:47] <rukuartic> B166ER: Go into /home/ghost, type "ls -lah | grep .gnome2" and see who owns the file. First name is owner, second is group
[04:47] <linux_galore> only time a teenage geek uses the vacuum cleaner (to clean there computer of dust)
[04:47] <D1> hey guys, what program do you guys use to utilize DC++??
[04:47] <holden> how can I modify grub or whatever bootloader comes with ubuntu so as to get my computer to boot from a cd rather than the bootloader right away? (bios is already set up to start from the cdrom, but this sort of bypasses that setting...)
[04:47] <noisy_1> What should I use to clean out my comp?
[04:47] <lgc> amphi It says there are unresolved issues with 2.6 kernels or something like that. And then I get that it can't write to the CD.
[04:47] <noisy_1> I have a shopvac with a lot of suck
[04:48] <linux_galore> got a nast story about an air compressor and a computer, blew the parts off
[04:48] <noisy_1> thats why I dont use my air compressor
[04:48] <rukuartic> was it a commercial quality air compressor?
[04:48] <amphi> lgc: does cdrecord dev=ATA -scanbus show the writer?
[04:48] <zcat[1] > yeah, i use it from a distance.. 120psi is a bit much at close range..
[04:48] <catholikos> how do i install apt?
[04:48] <B166ER> rukuartic 'root' 'root'
[04:48] <jadaz87> astro9040, back
[04:48] <rukuartic> B166ER: "sudo chown ghost:ghost .gnome2"
[04:49] <zcat[1] > i can easily spin fanblades off..
[04:49] <lgc> amphi what should it say?
[04:49] <astro9040> jadaz87, alright
[04:49] <riverz> arrrr the switch is failing me!
[04:49] <TokenBad> can someone tell me how to use the file manager as root?
[04:49] <amphi> lgc: it should show which device the writer is
[04:49] <rukuartic> TokenBad: gksudo <program name>
[04:49] <blindx> gksudo nautilus @ TokenBad
[04:49] <zcat[1] > I probably should turn the pressure down but I use it for other jobs too
[04:50] <jadaz87> astro9040 this is what i want you to do
[04:50] <lgc> amphi, "Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface. cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/hd*'. Cannot open SCSI driver."
[04:50] <astro9040> jadaz87, do you know how to fill dependencies?
[04:50] <B166ER> rukuartic the ls now list the   subdir    '.'  as ghost ghost, will it do ?
[04:50] <astro9040> jadaz87, oh
[04:50] <noisy_1> How do I use md5 to compare Directories?
[04:50] <astro9040> jadaz87, what is it sorry misread
[04:50] <B166ER> i can try to boot with this
[04:50] <jadaz87> astro9040, i forget what the command is i need that my self
[04:50] <rukuartic> B166ER: I don't get what you said
[04:50] <jadaz87> astro9040, :-\
[04:50] <B166ER> rukuartic i will get back to you after a try in X ..
[04:51] <amphi> lgc: try sudo modprobe ide0cd perhaps
[04:51] <amphi> lgc: er, modprobe ide-cd
[04:51] <TokenBad> can someone tell me how to set my mounted drive so that its readable to me..and not just root?
[04:51] <lavi> excuse me. i compiled the package at-poke, however, i met some problems. please chech on http://pastebin.com/678139. thank advance!
[04:51] <noisy_1> Is there a way to compare directories of the same name (They should have the same files) ?
[04:51] <riverz> chmod -R 777 /mountpoint
[04:51] <zcat[1] > riverz: no.
[04:52] <BudaH> lukinhas:
[04:52] <lukinhas> kra tu tah em tds
[04:52] <lukinhas> shauhsuahuas
[04:52] <TokenBad> thats not right?
[04:52] <lgc> amphi, it went through. Now what?
[04:52] <amphi> lgc: try tht cdrecord command again
[04:52] <BudaH> lukinhas: nem..
[04:52] <noisy_1> :(
[04:52] <BudaH> mas entao.. fui pela underlinux tmb..
[04:52] <_jason> !pt
[04:52] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[04:52] <lgc> amphi, let me do that...
[04:53] <linux_galore> noisy_1: http://www.brunolinux.com/02-The_Terminal/Diff_Find_and_Md5sum.html
[04:53] <N2DIY> I plugged in my USB mouse, an it worked! A lame fix, but who cares.
[04:53] <theBishop> is there an ubuntu respository for Gnomefiles?
[04:53] <Pmafia> hey guys how would you go about remove totem media player?
[04:53] <zcat[1] > TokenBad: one of the options in mount.. but I can't remember it. Changing permissions on the mountpoint won't do anything
[04:53] <noisy_1> ty
[04:53] <rukuartic> Pmafia: Sudo apt-get remove totem
[04:53] <_jason> Pmafia: aptitude remove totem
[04:53] <yoink23> anyone here happen to have any help for me with this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=164456
[04:53] <Pmafia> whats the difference between both those commands?
[04:53] <theBishop> is there an ubuntu respository for Gnomefiles?
[04:53] <BudaH> lukinhas: a sugestao de ajuda em portugues nao foi bem vinda.. pq a galera la nao ajuda.. s ban
[04:53] <rukuartic> Pmafia: aptitude's slower :P
[04:53] <catholikos>  thx all, bye
[04:53] <_jason> Pmafia: not much, a few letters
[04:54] <Pmafia> lol ok
[04:54] <lukinhas> so...
[04:54] <rukuartic> Pmafia: Aptitude is a frontend for apt-get.
[04:54] <Pmafia> "sudo" command only for ubuntu?
[04:54] <lavi> would anyone help me?
[04:54] <regeya> isn't there a portugues channel?
[04:54] <BudaH> lukinhas: q q eles falaram dps q sai!?
[04:54] <bimberi> !pt
[04:54] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[04:54] <BudaH> q eles estavam certo.. auhauh
[04:54] <rukuartic> Pmafia: It makes life easier. And no, I'm sure other distrobutions use/could use it too.
[04:54] <lukinhas> nd
[04:54] <lukinhas> fikei discutindo 1 poko
[04:54] <lukinhas> mas dps paro
[04:54] <Pmafia> sweet
[04:54] <Pmafia> thanks guy
[04:54] <bimberi> Pmafia: no, it can be installed on other unixes
[04:55] <_jason> lukinhas: aqui so se pode falar ingles, para portugues, por favor vai a #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt
[04:55] <zcat[1] > TokenBad: mode=0 I think, in the options field of fstab or -o mode=0 when you mount it..
[04:55] <Pmafia> sudo can be installed?
[04:55] <Pmafia> what do you mean? i thought sudo was a command?
[04:55] <lukinhas> ok
[04:55] <lukinhas> sorry
[04:55] <rukuartic> Pmafia: Yep, all commands get installed :P
[04:55] <AkariChan> ahy of u guys uses axel>
[04:55] <rukuartic> Pmafia: Well, its actually a program.
[04:55] <AkariChan> any*
[04:55] <Pmafia> an add/remove program?
[04:55] <AkariChan> does it support rsync servers, if u know what that is?
[04:55] <bimberi> Pmafia: no it's a program - there is a package for it
[04:55] <zcat[1] > or use the 'user' option, then you can mount it as yourself and you'll own it..
[04:56] <rukuartic> Pmafia: No, a command that lets a user execute another program that only a super user (su in the sudo) can do.
[04:56] <Pmafia> so its a program, a command program?
[04:56] <rukuartic> Pmafia: For example... if I wanted to shut off a network interface, I'd have to be root to do that. but for security reasons, there is no root. So you'd type "sudo" to issue the command as root.
[04:56] <rukuartic> Pmafia: A program
[04:56] <AkariChan> I LOVE UBUNTU
[04:57] <AkariChan> i cant say more than enough
[04:57] <Pmafia> well the firefox in ubuntu does suck
[04:57] <Pmafia> doesnt have flash... more complications...
[04:57] <rukuartic> Pmafia: Ay... It does have flash!
[04:57] <Pmafia> not mine :S
[04:57] <BudaH> guys.. have a application to detect webcam's for ubuntu?!
[04:57] <rukuartic> Pmafia: Eh... i think its mozilla-flashplayer or omething
[04:57] <zcat[1] > firefox in windows doesn't have flash either
[04:57] <noisy_1> akari, you were so negative in the beginning
[04:57] <rukuartic> Pmafia: Search for flash in wiki.ubuntu.org
[04:57] <noisy_1> now you see the light
[04:57] <rukuartic> !flash
[04:57] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:58] <Pmafia> mine says download missing plugin, then it tells me install it manually
[04:58] <riverz> 1111111212122222222111111111111111`1
[04:58] <Pmafia> firefox 1.0.7
[04:58] <linux_galore> Pmafia: ok I'll try make this simple, with Linux you have the user working space and the system stuff, to secure your system what we have done is basically said ok all the system stuff we will restrict so only root/super user can change these things this way its harder for a user to accidental break things
[04:58] <rukuartic> Pmafia: Check out what ubotu said
[04:58] <rukuartic> linux_galore: That, and a bruteforcer can't get in
[04:58] <Hobbsee> riverz: ?
[04:59] <AkariChan> haha yeah
[04:59] <AkariChan> i was negative because of apt-get
[04:59] <Pmafia> linux_galore, and rukuartic thanks.
[04:59] <riverz> sorry
[04:59] <AkariChan> and debian packages
[04:59] <Pmafia> so root means, main? or admin?
[04:59] <riverz> my switch is acting up
[04:59] <riverz> wont switch
[04:59] <riverz> kvm
[04:59] <Hobbsee> ah drat
[04:59] <noisy_1> Can some one please give me an example Samba share for user name tim
[04:59] <AkariChan> now i love it as much as my girlfriend XD
[04:59] <dotheuganda> hi
[04:59] <noisy_1> that's not good akari
[04:59] <zcat[1] > windows lets you download random executables off the net and install them; ubuntu makes this intentionally hard.. programs like flash get installed from signed packages that you know you can trust.
[05:00] <AkariChan> oh one question, there are two differnt versions of ubuntu
[05:00] <lgc> amphi, "cdrecord: No write mode specified. cdrecord: Asuming -tao mode. Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively ...TOC Type: 3 = CD-ROM XA mode 2".
[05:00] <noisy_1> there are more than 2
[05:00] <AkariChan> one dvd, and one cd, does the dvd include the universe packages?
[05:00] <AkariChan> oh really>
[05:00] <dotheuganda> is there higher bit rate ogg vorbis
[05:00] <dotheuganda> ?
[05:00] <AkariChan> i got the CD one...
[05:00] <riverz> ah
[05:01] <Pmafia> what is root exactly? and you can have multiple users on linux? multiple user accounts?
[05:01] <AkariChan> im wondering what the dvd includes
[05:01] <rukuartic> Pmafia: Root is admin... In windows its "Administrator" in linux, its "root"
[05:01] <linux_galore> dotheuganda: yes you can set ogg ripps pretty high
[05:01] <rukuartic> Pmafia: And yep, you can have as many users logged in/created as your computer can handle!
[05:01] <Pmafia> rukuartic, thanks. in that case im guessing you can have multiple users...
[05:01] <linux_galore> dotheuganda: depends on your resources I find
[05:01] <dotheuganda> because i use sound juice
[05:01] <imbrandon> Pmafia: root is like administrator on windows only more powerfull
[05:01] <Pmafia> sweet
[05:01] <dotheuganda> and i think it has a low bitrate
[05:01] <rukuartic> Pmafia: Right now, I have two running, "rukuartic" and "hladmin". Rukuartic's me, and "hladmin" is what I use to run my counterstrike server
[05:02] <Pmafia> i just need to learn a few basic commands and i'll be good to go
[05:02] <noisy_1> useradd
[05:02] <johnm1019> Other than NVU, does anyone have any reccomendations for IDE's for PHP on ubuntu?
[05:02] <noisy_1> there's one
[05:02] <rukuartic> Pmafia: And every now and then, my friend logs in through "ssh"
[05:02] <dotheuganda> and i want to know how i can get it to rip at a higer bitrate
[05:02] <Pmafia> cs player eh ;)
[05:02] <N2DIY> I didn't notice an upgrade option when I installed Ubuntu, can I upgrade a Knoppix box to Ubuntu, with out loosing my stuff?
[05:02] <linux_galore> rukuartic: streams are set by the server, not much you can do your end
[05:02] <Pmafia> rukuartic, what you use to run CS, cederine or whatever?
[05:02] <zcat[1] > Right now my main computer has three people logged in. And I'm not even on it :)
[05:02] <dotheuganda> or is there a better ecoder program thing for ubuntu?
[05:02] <imbrandon> johnm1019: nano ;)
[05:02] <astro9040> does anyone know a shortcut to finding dependencies?
[05:02] <AkariChan> any idea what kubuntu is?
[05:02] <rukuartic> Pmafia: no, I run a server, not the game. And its cedega
[05:02] <AkariChan> korean version of ubuntu? lol
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> N2DIY: A Knoppix box?  I thought Knoppix was only a Live CD.
[05:02] <Pmafia> you dont play on linux?
[05:02] <jadaz87> !kubuntu
[05:02] <ubotu> methinks kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[05:02] <zcat[1] > kubuntu is ubuntu with more k and less gnome
[05:02] <AkariChan> tonyyarusso: u can install it
[05:02] <johnm1019> imbrandon, :-\
[05:03] <AkariChan> AH!
[05:03] <tonyyarusso> News to me.
[05:03] <Pretto> meu xchat t em ingreiz
[05:03] <rukuartic> Pmafia: No, I play on windows XD
[05:03] <N2DIY> Nope, you can install from the Live CD.
[05:03] <lgc> !pt
[05:03] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[05:03] <Pmafia> xd?
[05:03] <AkariChan> tonyyarusso: there is a hard drive install option (scripted)
[05:03] <Pmafia> xp?
[05:03] <AkariChan> but all programs are precompiled
[05:03] <chatboy> hi guys, im trying to install gstreamer0.8.mad in Synaptic and getting gstreamer0.8-mad:
[05:03] <chatboy>  Depends: libid3tag0 (>=0.15.1b) but it is not installable
[05:03] <chatboy>  Depends: libmad0 (>=0.15.1b) but it is not installable. what can i do?
[05:03] <Pmafia> is xd something new :S
[05:03] <rukuartic> Pmafia: Windows 2000
[05:03] <linux_galore> astro9040: ?? with binaries or with source
[05:03] <N2DIY> tonyyarusso, Nope, you can install from the Live CD.
[05:03] <jadaz87> does anyone know how to config wine? what is the wine config command?
[05:03] <Pmafia> oh
[05:03] <tonyyarusso> N2DIY: I see.
[05:03] <rukuartic> jadaz87: winecfg
[05:03] <imbrandon> winecfg
[05:03] <AkariChan> lol, i think he gets it after 5 responses :D
[05:03] <Pmafia> ok imgunna play around a little bit with ubuntu
[05:03] <Pmafia> thanks
[05:04] <astro9040> linux_galore, with .deb files or any files for that matter
[05:04] <tonyyarusso> N2DIY: Well, the packages would not be binary compatible, so I doubt it.
[05:04] <rukuartic> Pmafia: No problem man, keep commin' back here
[05:04] <lgc> amphi, still around?
[05:04] <AkariChan> tonyyarusso: : it runs on i386 common base
[05:04] <AkariChan> not sparc or ppc
[05:04] <N2DIY> tonyyarusso, have I run into you on the chlug, or lvlug?
[05:04] <nickrud> chatboy, you need to fix your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:04] <bimberi> johnm1019: screem includes "features for including PHP" (from the description)
[05:04] <B_166-ER> rukuartic (i'm b166ER) it didnt work, still the same error , here is the content of my /.xsession-errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12818
[05:05] <chatboy> nickrud: can you tell me how to do that please ?
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> AkariChan: No, I mean in the same way that Ubuntu and Debian packages aren't compatible.  It would be tricky at least.
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> N2DIY: I don't thinks so...
[05:05] <zcat[1] > bah, compiz used to work.. now they're added stuff my cheap video card can't do :(
[05:05] <N2DIY> tonyyarusso, roger, name looked familiar.
[05:05] <nickrud> chatboy, sure. The simplest method is to use http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:05] <AkariChan> tonyyarusso: yeah they aren't. so its better to find a repository with ubuntu programs.  worse case scenario go for universe or .configure everthing XD
[05:06] <rukuartic> Wow B_166-ER Thats quite a problem you have there
[05:06] <noisy_1> I cant login to my samba server from a winxp machine using account and pass
[05:06] <rukuartic> B_166-ER: Its actually 11 here, and i need to hit the sack
[05:06] <AkariChan> hey can u install kde on ubuntu if u idn't get kubuntu?
[05:06] <rukuartic> AkariChan: Yep
[05:07] <B_166-ER> rukuartic it is here too
[05:07] <AkariChan> cuz i wanna use kdrc and kdsc
[05:07] <B_166-ER> but thanks anyway
[05:07] <B_166-ER> i think i will have to reinstall :\
[05:07] <zcat[1] > apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or apt-get install kde
[05:07] <chatboy> checking that right now, thanks nickrud
[05:07] <nickrud> AkariChan, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop will install kde for you
[05:07] <rukuartic> AkariChan: You can use KDE apps on gnome, but you'd have to have some base things
[05:07] <AkariChan> rukuartic: neat. anything that functions like kdrc in ggnome?
[05:07] <B_166-ER> and i dont even know what caused this
[05:07] <zcat[1] > depending how much kde you want..
[05:07] <rukuartic> AkariChan: Whats kdrc?
[05:07] <AkariChan> neat
[05:07] <rukuartic> B_166-ER: Sorry mate... you could try looking for someone a bit smarter than me though
[05:07] <AkariChan> rukuartic: like vnc, but it uses your :0 instead of making a new display
[05:08] <AkariChan> i love it
[05:08] <N2DIY> 73 all, got log off this box, and setup my dialer on the new Ubuntu box.
[05:08] <noisy_1> akari try fluxbox too
[05:08] <stone61> hi all
[05:08] <rukuartic> AkariChan: ssh?
[05:08] <linux_galore> astro9040: apt-cache showpkg <package>
[05:08] <AkariChan> rukuartic: ssh can do graphic?
[05:08] <Thinjon100> If I'm getting an error from a ./configure command that says I need a curses library, what does that mean?
[05:08] <AkariChan> man i am old school
[05:08] <rukuartic> AkariChan: Not sure...
[05:08] <lgc> I'm stuck with a non-burning CD/RW unit. Help?
[05:08] <stone61> is it possible to update from hoary to dapper?
[05:08] <AkariChan> i wanna do something like remote desktop share in windows
[05:08] <stone61> and if so how?
[05:08] <zl3cat> hmm..
[05:08] <rukuartic> Thinjon100: There's a program out there called curses, it helps you make graphics in a console environment.
[05:08] <AkariChan> so i can just remote control it
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> stone61: Yes.
[05:09] <rukuartic> Thinjon100: "sudo apt-get install ncurses" I think
[05:09] <tonyyarusso> stone61: You need to update to breezy first, then dapper.
[05:09] <B_166-ER> well, does anyone is good with login/startup ubuntu problem ? ;) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12818 mine seems a bit 'complicated' i cannot log in, i need some help..
[05:09] <zl3cat> how many ppl here are hams?
[05:09] <Thinjon100> rukuartic: Thanks... I thought it wanted me to swear at it or something :P
[05:09] <rukuartic> Thinjon100: Hold up
[05:09] <stone61> how to update breezy?
[05:09] <rukuartic> Thinjon100: libncurses4
[05:09] <AkariChan> anyone know a replacement for kdrs/kdsc replacement for gnome?
[05:09] <tonyyarusso> stone61: Check the message from ubotu.
[05:09] <Thinjon100> Thanks :)
[05:09] <astro9040> sorry i ment download them automatically
[05:09] <rukuartic> Thinjon100: That should work, come back if it doesn't
[05:09] <rukuartic> and now, I'm off to bed!
[05:09] <stone61> ok
[05:10] <AkariChan> noisy_1: i will, gotta get the basics first =)
[05:10] <astro9040> linux_galore, sorry i ment download them automatically
[05:10] <stone61> thx tonay
[05:10] <bananasontoast> Does anyone know why I get the message "You don't seem to have 'make' or 'gmake' in your PATH"? I am sure I have installed QT properly?
[05:10] <zcat[1] > bananasontoast: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> !b-e
[05:10] <ubotu> b-e is probably no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.
[05:11] <linux_galore> astro9040: apt-get downloads dependencies automatically already
[05:11] <B_166-ER> if no one can help, i will have to reinstall , again,
[05:11] <spuddogg> does anyone know the command to find my local ip?
[05:11] <szandor> anyone find a way around the usb problems on a Dell Dimension 3100 to run Hoary?
[05:11] <sesstreets> spuddogg, ipchicken.com
[05:11] <AkariChan> spuddogg: sudo ifconfig
[05:11] <Breezy-CA> ifconfig
[05:11] <zcat[1] > spuddogg: ifconfig
[05:11] <NickGarvey> ifconfig!
[05:11] <spuddogg> thanks fellas!
[05:11] <astro9040> linux_galore, im still new to ubuntu can u tell me how to use apt-get
[05:11] <sesstreets> _jason, what do I have to do to get .mov working in firefox?
[05:11] <B_166-ER> well, at least installing ubuntu is not like gentoo
[05:11] <NickGarvey> sesstreets: that won't show his local, that will show his public
[05:11] <zcat[1] > or visit whatismyip.com
[05:11] <sesstreets> astro9040, use synaptic
[05:11] <AkariChan> www.whatismyip.com
[05:11] <noisy_1> does swat auto-restart samba after writing the smb.comf?
[05:11] <_jason> sesstreets: mplayer plugin and w32codecs
[05:11] <noisy_1> conf*
[05:11] <AkariChan> hehe
[05:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell sesstreets about replacetotem
[05:11] <sesstreets> _jason, it downloads the file but stops at 99%
[05:11] <AkariChan> oh i know
[05:12] <NickGarvey> zcat[1] , AkariChan, sesstreets: that won't show his local, that will show his public
[05:12] <zcat[1] > is ipchicken stil up? last time I visited it was 404
[05:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell sesstreets about w32codecs
[05:12] <AkariChan> your ip is 127.0.0.1
[05:12] <AkariChan> lol
[05:12] <sesstreets> I swear I did that already
[05:12] <_jason> sesstreets: using mplayer?
[05:12] <Breezy-CA> (never did find ifnotconfig though)
[05:12] <themachine> learn to use the "man" command
[05:12] <noisy_1> There's no place like 127.0.0.1
[05:12] <themachine> type man man
[05:12] <_jason> sesstreets: right click and press play, does that work?
[05:12] <Breezy-CA> noisy_1,  there's no place like ~
[05:12] <AkariChan> noisy_1: there's no place like home
[05:12] <zcat[1] > no place like localhost?
[05:12] <astro9040> sesstreets, and synaptic will automatically download the dependencies
[05:12] <sesstreets> _jason, nope
[05:12] <AkariChan> zcat[1] : ...
[05:12] <AkariChan> localhost.localdomain
[05:12] <Apostle^> i need help with my ati card, the fglrx module loads but i get mesa indirect instead of the ati driver?
[05:12] <_jason> sesstreets: so... are you using mplayer plug-in or still totem?
[05:13] <sesstreets> mplayer
[05:13] <sesstreets> I think...
[05:13] <sesstreets> yeah
[05:13] <noisy_1> does swat auto-restart samba after writing the smb.conf?
[05:13] <_jason> sesstreets: is this a file I can try?
[05:13] <linux_galore> astro9040: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/12/concise-apt-get-dpkg-primer-for-new.html
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> Apostle^: You have to change the driver in xorg.conf.
[05:13] <bananasontoast> zcat[1] , Thanks so much! :D
[05:13] <sesstreets> http://www.firefoxflicks.com/flick/index.php?id=19542&c=false
[05:13] <AkariChan> u guys gotta learn how to use axel
[05:13] <Apostle^> tonyyarusso: it's set to fglrx ...
[05:13] <AkariChan> its greattt
[05:13] <LoMonteiro> Movie in .wmv I can watch no Ubuntu ? If yes, how ?
[05:13] <astro9040> linux_galore, thx
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> Apostle^: Oh really...
[05:13] <zcat[1] > I like lo.. i get the best pings back on that interface!!
[05:13] <Apostle^> tonyyarusso: yes :\
[05:13] <astro9040> linux_galore, ill bookmark it
[05:14] <lgc> How can I change the colors of my postings in X-chat? They apper gray and they're easy to lose sight of...
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> Apostle^: You've checked out the wiki page already?
[05:14] <Apostle^> tonyyarusso: i followed the guide :\
[05:14] <AkariChan> hmm who uses 172.*.*.* as local network ??
[05:14] <stone61> thx tony bye
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> Apostle^: Ick.  Not sure then.
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> stone61: Bye.
[05:14] <sesstreets> _jason, it work for you?
[05:14] <Apostle^> tonyyarusso: any way to just 'start over' without having to reinstall?
[05:14] <_jason> sesstreets: you aren't missing much, umm lets see what does this do in a terminal: mplayer http://media02.revver.com/broadcast/19542/video.mov
[05:14] <AkariChan> instead of 192.168
[05:15] <sesstreets> plays it
[05:15] <bobonthenet> I can't seem to save anything on my jumpdrive, I have been able to in the past can someone help me get this working?
[05:15] <tonyyarusso> Apostle^: Maybe reinstall the driver only, and 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', not sure what else.
[05:15] <nickrud> lgc, Settings->Preferences->Colors-> items 15 & 31, change those for your name & text
[05:15] <_jason> sesstreets: pastebin the page that firefox displays when you enter about:plugins in the address bar please
[05:15] <noisy_1> I'm trying to shar /hdb/ and it wont work for me. I'm using SWAT
[05:15] <AkariChan> hmmmmm
[05:16] <AkariChan> gah
[05:16] <AkariChan> hmm who uses 172.*.*.* as local network ??
[05:16] <sesstreets> _jason, http://pastebin.com/678171
[05:16] <AkariChan> instead of 192.168
[05:16] <bananasontoast> Does anyone here use Psi? When I try and apt-get it, it tells me "E: Couldn't find package psi"?
[05:16] <zcat[1] > hmm.. dapper claims it's beta now..
[05:16] <sesstreets> thats for othe rrouters right?
[05:16] <zcat[1] > I thought it was alpha
[05:16] <AkariChan> sesstreets: ya
[05:16] <mDot> gentle men, ladies. join with me as i celebrate the removal of my 'Designed for Windows XP' case badge, and replace it with a Ubuntu badge.
[05:16] <AkariChan> local area networks
[05:16] <AkariChan> some uses 10.0.*.*
[05:16] <sesstreets> You can change it
[05:16] <noisy_1> lol @ mDot
[05:16] <Breezy-CA> cheers mDot
[05:16] <AkariChan> some uses 192.168 (i,e. linksys)
[05:16] <_jason> sesstreets: you are on breezy?
[05:16] <linux_galore> bananasontoast: means its not listed
[05:16] <sesstreets> yep
[05:16] <zcat[1] > mDot: I scraped mine off, and the XP Home code.
[05:16] <noisy_1> rip it right where it say's designed for
[05:17] <noisy_1> and put the ubuntu one right there
[05:17] <bananasontoast> linux_galore, Am I able to get it listed somehow?
[05:17] <linux_galore> bananasontoast: apt-get can only install what it can find in the repositories
[05:17] <lgc> nickrud, thanks. And what do these numbers mean?
[05:17] <zcat[1] > I just peeled off intel inside too..
[05:17] <mDot> done! chers!
[05:17] <mDot> cheers too
[05:17] <bananasontoast> linux_galore, amusinc considering that the Psi website says to install it you only need to apt-get...
[05:17] <nickrud> lgc, it's the numbers on the color squares on that dialog page
[05:17] <sesstreets> _jason, any ideas?
[05:18] <zcat[1] > not that I have anything against intel.
[05:18] <LoMonteiro> tonyyarusso, Thanks! ;)
[05:18] <nickrud> test
[05:18] <sesstreets> macintel>amd>intel
[05:18] <blmartin777> Can someone help me with wpasupplicant please?
[05:18] <_jason> sesstreets: not really, maybe mine plays only because I have a later version of the plugin
[05:18] <noisy_1> I can see my samba server in my workgroup but I cant connect using a username and password, can I please get some help with this?
[05:18] <_jason> sesstreets: I did have to right click and press play though
[05:18] <bobonthenet> I can't seem to save anything on my jumpdrive, I have been able to in the past can someone help me get this working?
[05:18] <sesstreets> _jason, that doesnt work...v_v
[05:18] <linux_galore> bananasontoast: yes thats true, if the package is in one of the repositories list in the /etc/apt/sources.list list file
[05:18] <linux_galore> listed*
[05:19] <_jason> sesstreets: ahem, how much does the plugin mean to you? worth a compile?
[05:19] <bananasontoast> linux_galore, can I update that list some way to put it in there or something?
[05:19] <bimberi> noisy_1: Samba maintains its own password list - 'sudo smbpasswd <yourusername>'
[05:19] <sesstreets> Would it take hours?
[05:19] <ntumba> So who has tried dapper?
[05:19] <_jason> sesstreets: have you compiled before?
[05:19] <nickrud> !dapper
[05:19] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[05:19] <zcat[1] > ntumba: been running dapper on this lappy for weeks
[05:19] <sesstreets> once or twice
[05:19] <linux_galore> bananasontoast: sudo apt-get update
[05:19] <_jason> sesstreets: should take 10 minutes
[05:19] <bobonthenet> Dapper looks awesome I went to a lecture where I got to see a preview of it.
[05:19] <ntumba> How stable is it? I really want to try it...
[05:19] <sesstreets> okays
[05:19] <sesstreets> where to get?
[05:19] <lgc> nickrud, let me rephrase it: How can I relate these numbers to any event on the X-chat window? For example, what does "19", or any other number, relate to?
[05:20] <zcat[1] > xgl+compiz is awesome..
[05:20] <linux_galore> bananasontoast: if its still not there then you need to add a repository
[05:20] <ntumba> cool @ bobon
[05:20] <nickrud> lgc, that is another question. I found those thru trial and error
[05:20] <zcat[1] > but now it won't run.. they upgraded past what my cheap card can support :(
[05:20] <bananasontoast> linux_galore, yeah it's still not there... How do I do that exactly?
[05:20] <_jason> sesstreets: just remove the package you have now for mplayer plugin first, search google for mplayer plugin, get the deps (sudo apt-get build-dep mozilla-mplayer), read the README, ./configure, make, checkinstall
[05:21] <noisy_1> bimberi, I love you
[05:21] <_jason> sesstreets: oh... and I missed the part where you download the source :)
[05:21] <sesstreets> just tell me how to uninstall it and i can manage the rest
[05:21] <bimberi> noisy_1: please, people are watching :P
[05:21] <bobonthenet> can someone help me with my USB drive problem?  I have to save a final exam on it.
[05:21] <_jason> sesstreets: sudo aptitude remove mozilla-mplayer
[05:21] <noisy_1> I see folders! *tears*
[05:21] <lgc> nickrud, did you say "15" and "31"? Because I changed both and I get the same gray for my postings (though my nick did change).
[05:21] <nickrud> bimberi, I'd never have though you were that shy :)
[05:21] <_jason> sesstreets: note that after you install with checkinstall, you need to manually symlink in the firefox plugin directory
[05:21] <nickrud> lgc, dapper? I'm seeing something similar there
[05:22] <bimberi> nickrud: lol
[05:22] <sesstreets> O_o?
[05:22] <linux_galore> bananasontoast: http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/system_administration_books/ubuntu_starter_guide/ch02.html
[05:22] <lgc> nickrud, Breezy.
[05:22] <Pmafia> hey guys whats fedora? is it anothe distro like ubuntu?
[05:22] <_jason> sesstreets: it doesn't make the symlinks in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ it puts them in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ only, so you symlink to there
[05:23] <linux_galore> Pmafia: Fedora is a developer release of Linux by Red Hat
[05:23] <sesstreets> symlink...
[05:23] <imbrandon> ubuntu == better than fedora, but yea
[05:23] <nickrud> lgc, I don't know then. I do remember having red text & nick, & I was sure I'd changed 15 &31 (the only grey boxes there)
[05:23] <linux_galore> Pmafia: basically your a guinea pig for Red Hat
[05:23] <ntumba> brb
[05:23] <_jason> sesstreets: it's like a shortcut to a file basically
[05:23] <_jason> ubotu: tell sesstreets about symlink
[05:23] <Pmafia> if your using fedora?
[05:23] <linux_galore> Pmafia: yes
[05:23] <sesstreets> oks
[05:23] <noisy_1> I like Ubuntu and Debian and have a new found respect for DSL
[05:23] <_jason> sesstreets: you might want to find a breezy user to test the file too, just to make sure it is indeed the version
[05:24] <sesstreets> ..
[05:24] <sesstreets> dude i installed linux yesterday
[05:24] <lgc> nickrud, let me play around with it again...
[05:24] <Pmafia> but the main thing i wanna know is all the main distro's (os's i guess like ubuntu) do they share the same basic core/functions? if i know ubuntu, will i know other distro, how to operate them?
[05:24] <sesstreets> but i get that
[05:24] <sesstreets> anyone: who can play this file? http://www.firefoxflicks.com/flick/index.php?id=19542&c=false
[05:24] <nickrud> lgc, please do, I'll reboot breezy later, but not now
[05:24] <linux_galore> Pmafia: Fedora 5 (called FC5 for short) is nice but at the end of the day you have to ask, what am I getting out of this deal other than allot of broken apps and why cant I get the stable version for free
[05:25] <arrick> hey tonyyarusso if it works guess what I have
[05:25] <lgc> :)
[05:25] <sesstreets> anyone?
[05:25] <imbrandon> Pmafia:  somewhat but core things like apt-get are only in debain and ubuntu , fedora and others use rpm , and gentoo compiles it all from src
[05:25] <imbrandon> etc
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> arrick: Malaria.
[05:25] <linux_galore> yeah yum (the package manager on Fedora) is soooo slooow
[05:26] <lgc> :)
[05:26] <Pmafia> rpm uses same function as sudo?
[05:26] <szandor> !usb
[05:26] <imbrandon> no
[05:26] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, szandor
[05:26] <arrick> tonyyarusso, you famaliar with a pastebot?
[05:26] <nickrud> Pmafia, hum?
[05:26] <darryl> hi gang, I'm on my new ubuntu install box!
[05:26] <szandor> !hardware
[05:26] <ubotu> well, hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:26] <linux_galore> Pmafia: rpm has nothing to do with sudo there seperate applications
[05:26] <noisy_1> bimberi, what should I put in "hosts allow" ?
[05:26] <nickrud> !tell Pmafia about sudo
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> arrick: Sort of.  Not entirely.
[05:26] <Pmafia> linux_galore, i know but i ment are they simular?
[05:26] <lgc> Mary had a little lamb...
[05:27] <darryl> why am I darryl and not N2DIY? Who cares at this point!
[05:27] <IceTox> Do you know if any other linux friendly bittorent clients?
[05:27] <imbrandon> rpm is more akin to debs than sudo Pmafia
[05:27] <linux_galore> Pmafia: no. sudo is for permissions rpm is a package installer
[05:27] <nickrud> Pmafia, sudo is a means of accessing adminstrative funtions, rpm is a container for installing programs
[05:27] <bimberi> noisy_1: not with you sorry. for samba?
[05:27] <arrick> tonyyarusso, if you copy something and want to paste it, you open the browser, it pastes, you put in your name and it sends the link to the channel automatically
[05:27] <ro> how do you get glxgears to show fps (it doesn't do so for me)
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> arrick: cool.
[05:27] <bimberi> !tell ro about glxgears
[05:27] <Pmafia> nickrud, thanks, linux_galore , thanks, is ubuntu compatible with rpm?
[05:27] <nickrud> -iaknowledgethisisnotabenchmark
[05:27] <nickrud> I think
[05:27] <arrick> tonyyarusso, (the secret is getting it to work all the way
[05:28] <noisy_1> yeah for samba
[05:28] <noisy_1> #=anyone?
[05:28] <nickrud> Pmafia, no. There are ways of using rpms, but they are an absolute last gasp
[05:28] <linux_galore> Pmafia: there are two main competing package format with Linux (yes I know there are others) one is rpm the other is .deb
[05:28] <Whyvas> ro, glxgears -printfps
[05:28] <imbrandon> sudo == switch user ( ie su ) do something ( ie the command you tpe afterwords like apt-get ) if no user is specified it assumes root I.E. "sudo apt-get" will run apt-get as root instead of the user your loged in as
[05:28] <ro> bimberi, Whyvas: cheers
[05:29] <Pmafia> linux_galore, so which one if any, does ubuntu use?
[05:29] <nickrud> Pmafia, always look for a deb, there are as many/more debs as there are rpms
[05:29] <imbrandon> apt-get
[05:29] <linux_galore> Pmafia: no rpm's are not 100% compatable with Debian based systems but some will work with the alien command
[05:29] <imbrandon> deb
[05:29] <Pmafia> linux_galore, ubuntu is debian based?
[05:29] <linux_galore> Pmafia: ubuntu uses .deb
[05:29] <ro> bimberi: On a similar note, you wouldn't happen to know any decent benchmarking tool?
[05:29] <imbrandon> Pmafia: yes
[05:29] <linux_galore> Pmafia: yes
[05:29] <Pmafia> sweet
[05:29] <CNAP> anybody know how to fix this?
[05:29] <CNAP> Cannot find mozilla installation directory. Please set MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to your mozilla directory
[05:30] <N2DIY> test
[05:30] <N2DIY> That's better.
[05:30] <nickrud> Pmafia, but don't expect to use a debian deb on ubuntu, no more than you would a suse deb on redhat
[05:30] <nickrud> s/suse deb/suse rpm/ :)
[05:30] <Pmafia> what format does redhat use?
[05:30] <Pmafia> nickrud, you just completely confused me
[05:30] <linux_galore> Pmafia: getting used to this choice thing can have its ups and down sides heh heh
[05:30] <eyequeue> RedhatPackageManager
[05:30] <zcat[1] > N2DIY: hi from zl3cat :)
[05:31] <kkathman> yum
[05:31] <lgc> nickrud, it's "15" & "31". The last one is for the postings...
[05:31] <noisy_1> bimberi: on samba I can access my home for that user but the shares I set up say I have no permissions
[05:31] <kkathman> thats what RedHat/Fedora uses :)
[05:31] <linux_galore> Pmafia: red hat uses rpm thus Red Hat Package rmp
[05:31] <linux_galore> rpm*
[05:31] <nickrud> Pmafia, sorry :) Base rule: use only packages that you can apt-get while using official ubuntu sources.
[05:32] <linux_galore> Pmafia: Redhat Package Manager = rpm sorry
[05:32] <zcat[1] > ubuntu repos or build it from source.. anything else is likely to break stuff.
[05:32] <bimberi> noisy_1: iirc it uses whatever permissions your user has
[05:32] <CNAP> Cannot find mozilla installation directory. Please set MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to your mozilla directory
[05:33] <Pmafia> linux_galore, clears stuff up a bit lol, apt-get only downloads from ubuntu website?
[05:33] <CNAP> how do i fix that?
[05:33] <morphix> how can i get crontab to execute my script every 30 mins??
[05:33] <nickrud> CNAP, that is something I haven't seen in a long time, what are you compiling?
[05:33] <Flannel> Pmafia: it only downloads from your repositories, which are all at ubuntus website (or a mirror)
[05:33] <cuong> exit
[05:33] <CNAP> nickrud, actually i just apt-get'ed monodevelop, ran it and got that
[05:33] <arrick> tonyyarusso, copy something, and try this out for me please? http://pastebot.no-ip.org put your name in and click submit please?
[05:33] <blu3_c> hi
[05:33] <imbrandon> Pmafia: it only downloads from sites that are listed in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> arrick: 'k.
[05:33] <noisy_1> I have /hdb/ mounted and I want to share it to user "tim", I gave tim permission on SWAT, but tim cant access
[05:34] <Pmafia> for example, somebody earlier told me of a program, a OSX dock for KDE, lets say i install KDE... what would that program use?
[05:34] <Akari> hmm
[05:34] <noisy_1> how do I give tim permission?
[05:34] <nickrud> CNAP, heh. that's an error I thought would be very old, can I see the whole error?
[05:34] <blu3_c> i have trouble with gyach, anyone can help me?
[05:34] <bimberi> ro: sorry i don't
[05:34] <CNAP> nickrud, you did. that's the error message
[05:34] <linux_galore> Pmafia: no you can find other repositores, apt-get will download from all sites listed in the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[05:34] <nickrud> CNAP, thats it?!
[05:34] <CNAP> CNAP@mr-jax-210-48:~$ monodevelop
[05:34] <CNAP> Cannot find mozilla installation directory. Please set MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to your mozilla directory
[05:34] <CNAP> frankie@mr-jax-210-48:~$
[05:35] <linux_galore> Pmafia: you can add your own
[05:35] <blu3_c> _jason, do you use gyach?
[05:35] <arrick-pastebot> "tonyyarusso" at 69.158.82.11 pasted "My current /etc/fstab" (16 lines) at http://arrick.no-ip.com:10020/1
[05:35] <nickrud> CNAP, try export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla , that'd be my first stab at it
[05:35] <_jason> blu3_c: nope
[05:35] <linux_galore> Pmafia: some listed on apt.org
[05:35] <ro> does anyone know of any generic benchmarking tools?
[05:35] <skpl_> has anyone else had trouble using their ipod with ubuntu?
[05:35] <CNAP> nickrud: export? how?
[05:35] <Madpilot> who owns the pastebot?
[05:35] <Pmafia> so before you download/install something, you must enter it in the source.list file?
[05:35] <lgc> eyequeue, Hi!
[05:35] <CNAP> nickrud: i don't even know what's MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME
[05:36] <eyequeue> hi lgc
[05:36] <Pmafia> if you want to directly install from the web?
[05:36] <linux_galore> Pmafia: just beware if you use none official package repositories things can break
[05:36] <Flannel> Pmafia: no, sources.list has the location of the place of a LOT of packages, everything supported by ubuntu
[05:36] <nickrud> CNAP, try typing exactly: MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla monodevelop
[05:36] <Flannel> Pmafia: its like a directory of all the software
[05:36] <zcat[1] > Pmafia: you don't download random crap and run it.. that's the windows way of doing things.
[05:36] <Madpilot> Pmafia, you use Synaptic for most installs, or apt-get
[05:36] <lgc> eyequeue, say, are you familiar with "cdrecord"?
[05:36] <_jason> Madpilot: does pastebot mean http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  ?
[05:36] <blu3_c> well, thanks
[05:36] <Flannel> Pmafia: everything you see in synaptic/apt/etc is in the repositories
[05:36] <noisy_1> how do I set file permissions?
[05:36] <eyequeue> lgc, no
[05:36] <Madpilot> _jason, no, pastebot means the arrick-pastebot that just posted above
[05:36] <eyequeue> noisy_1, chmod
[05:36] <CNAP> nickrud: whoa...ok now how did you know that would work? ;-)
[05:36] <linux_galore> Pmafia: yeah there are methods to do that, theres a thing called "klick" that allows you to install packages in a fully self contained container like with windows
[05:37] <lgc> eyequeue, hmm...I've been trying to get some help for a while now...
[05:37] <_jason> Madpilot: ah ok :)
[05:37] <ricardo_> ei galera blz
[05:37] <arrick> _jason, im testing a pastebot out
[05:37] <nickrud> CNAP, I used to compile galeon, and back in the day I had to know that environment variable. You should file a bug
[05:37] <ricardo_> #J /ubuntu-br
[05:37] <Pmafia> hmmm....confused but learning the linux way...
[05:37] <tonyyarusso> arrick: You catch that?
[05:37] <Pmafia> what is synaptic, what is repository?
[05:37] <wastrel> ahh galeon
[05:38] <CNAP> cnap: when googling that error message, i kept finding stuff on galeon. what's galeon?
[05:38] <sesstreets> _jason, damnit not working
[05:38] <ricardo_> #/ j ubuntu-br
[05:38] <_jason> sesstreets: what the compile?
[05:38] <Madpilot> !tell Pmafia about synaptic
[05:38] <sesstreets> yeah
[05:38] <sesstreets> I use ./configure --with-gecko-sdk=/path/to/gecko-sdk --enable-gtk1
[05:38] <Madpilot> !tell Pmafia about repos
[05:38] <sesstreets> i mean not that
[05:38] <lgc> ricardo  /j #ubuntu-br
[05:38] <imbrandon> ricardo_: /j #ubuntu-br
[05:38] <sesstreets> ./configure --enable-x --with-gecko-sdk={path to gecko sdk}
[05:38] <noisy_1> how do I use chmod? "chmod -c <filename> <username>" ?
[05:38] <arrick> yeah I got it, now I gotta figure out how to use it from inside the network, wo I can view it
[05:38] <nickrud> CNAP, a very nice browser
[05:38] <ricardo_> imbrandon, valeu
[05:38] <sesstreets> but at the end it says something about not using gtk will remove functinoality now what
[05:39] <imbrandon> yw
[05:39] <linux_galore> Pmafia: well with Linux to secure things what we did was put all the packages on a server and create a "package manager" that downloads and install stuff for you and makes sure you dont break things, the advantage with this is you dont end up with apps that have been tampered with
[05:39] <Madpilot> noisy_1, no. "chmod <permissions> <filename>
[05:39] <nickrud> CNAP, it's in the repos
[05:39] <eyequeue> noisy_1, no, there's no username with chmod.  "man chmod" for syntax
[05:39] <arrick> Madpilot, I own the pastebot, hence the name arrick attached
[05:39] <sesstreets> and make gives me hundreads of errors
[05:39] <arrick> sorry didnt get your post right away
[05:39] <_jason> sesstreets: join me in offtopic
[05:39] <CNAP> nickrud: i'll look it up. thanks for the assist ;-)
[05:39] <eyequeue> noisy_1, man chown if you need to change the owner to another username
[05:39] <zcat[1] > like windows 'add/remove windows components' except that instead of just a dozen things that come with windows, synaptic gives you access to about 17,000 packages
[05:40] <Madpilot> arrick, OK - just wondering - I'm sure you know that bots come in for more scrutiny than regular users - some of them have bad manners...
[05:40] <Pmafia> linux_galore, okay , so its basically like way more organized then windows, lets say a software developer released a software for ubuntu, they have to contact ubuntu get a certification type clearance and list it on the sources.list?
[05:40] <linux_galore> Pmafia: one of the big problems with Windows are you can install software from all over the place often the programs even though looking like an official copy of an app. lest say mozilla the version on the server has been tampered with and has a virus in it
[05:40] <gtrplr>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY gtplr
[05:40] <Thinjon100> What's the curses library called again so I can install it? I thought he said libncurses, but apt-get can't find that
[05:40] <gtrplr> LOL
[05:40] <gtrplr> can you say wups?
[05:41] <arrick> Madpilot, yep
[05:41] <Madpilot> gtrplr, time to change your nick :P
[05:41] <Flannel> Pmafia: something like that, yeah.  Of course, users areallowed to install stuff not in the official repos,
[05:41] <gtrplr> naw
[05:41] <Madpilot> gtrplr, password, rather
[05:41] <eyequeue> or at least password :)
[05:41] <linux_galore> Pmafia: no Ubuntu team keep an eye on the releases
[05:41] <nickrud> CNAP, I'm serious about the bug, I don't use monodevelop but that's not right
[05:41] <gtrplr> if someone wants it THAT bad
[05:41] <gtrplr> who cares
[05:41] <noisy_1> can I chmod to make multiple users the owner?
[05:41] <gtrplr> :)
[05:41] <zcat[1] > Pmafia: ubuntu devs will package it if it looks useful or people want it.. make sure it does what it says, sign the package so you know you're getting exactly what they packaged..
[05:41] <Pmafia> how would i install a non official program?
[05:41] <morphix> in crontab, wouldnt 30 * * * * make the script execute every 30 mins??
[05:41] <Madpilot> noisy_1, no - chmod is just permissions, not ownership
[05:41] <arrick> hey Madpilot now I gotta figure out how I can give the name out and view the pastes, cause the location is inside my network
[05:42] <eyequeue> gtrplr, well, judging by the /topic, i'd guess this channel would ...
[05:42] <mikomiko> how do i run a notepad
[05:42] <eyequeue> noisy_1, a file only has one owner
[05:42] <zcat[1] > Pmafia: there's almost nothing you'd want that isn't already in the repos.
[05:42] <noisy_1> operate on files and folders recursively?
[05:42] <eyequeue> noisy_1, you may want to investigate groups, man chgrp, man adduser
[05:42] <merc> i just did a dist-upgrade (kdm failed, but whoopty doo), im trying to get automatix to run, but it wont because it says it wont work on breezy/etc..  shouldn't the dist-upgrade have made it the latest version available?
[05:42] <Pmafia> but lets say its a custom program from a friend or something, something that isnt public, how would i go about installing it
[05:43] <gtrplr> any way to update gnome2.14 without changing from breezy to dapper?
[05:43] <Pmafia> sorry, i just wnat general knowledge about linux
[05:43] <Flannel> gtrplr: the easy way is to update to dapper ;)
[05:43] <bananasontoast> linux_galore, thanks a lot, I finally got Psi working... Now I just need to work on Wireless networking and sound... :(
[05:43] <eyequeue> Pmafia, dpkg -i foo.deb
[05:43] <zcat[1] > ok.. assuming it's source; download it first..
[05:43] <CNAP> nickrud: what do you mean?
[05:43] <gtrplr> Flannel, tried that twice
[05:43] <Madpilot> Pmafia, did you see the two pm's from the bot?
[05:43] <morphix> >> in crontab, wouldnt 30 * * * * make the script execute every 30 mins?? <<
[05:43] <zcat[1] > then untar (tar xzf foo.tgz)
[05:43] <gtrplr> it pukes on my wireless card
[05:43] <Madpilot> morphix, man crontab
[05:43] <Flannel> gtrplr: then, youll juts have to wait, well, if you want an easy way.
[05:43] <CNAP> nickrud: i'm just trying to pick up C# and i've already gotten problems from the start
[05:44] <Pmafia> Madpilot, yes i did
[05:44] <zcat[1] > then build it; cd foo-x.y.z/ ; ./configure ; make ; sudo make install
[05:44] <Flannel> gtrplr: erm, has it been since the beta?
[05:44] <gtrplr> I can do the garnome
[05:44] <gtrplr> but...
[05:44] <skpl_> can someone tell me how to get mplayer in dapper?
[05:44] <morphix> Madpilot: i have.. and that is what i "think" would execute every 30 mins.. can u just tell me if i am right?
[05:44] <gtrplr> flange, last night
[05:44] <nickrud> CNAP, I gave up programming C back in the k&R days, but a bug is a bug
[05:44] <gtrplr> wups
[05:44] <Flannel> its ok
[05:44] <Flannel> I got it ;)
[05:44] <gtrplr> Flannel, last night
[05:44] <arrick> hey tonyyarusso you got a lot of partitions
[05:44] <eyequeue> !tell skpl_ about mplayer
[05:44] <arrick> wow
[05:44] <gtrplr> damn
[05:44] <gtrplr> brb
[05:44] <Madpilot> morphix, I actually don't know - haven't done much with crontab
[05:45] <CNAP> nickrud: k&r?
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> arrick: And I'm adding more  :P
[05:45] <morphix> :(
[05:45] <Flannel> well, file a bug report, so the devs will know to look into it, otherwise the actual release still might not have support
[05:45] <arrick> haha
[05:45] <nickrud> CNAP, kernigan & richie
[05:45] <arrick> tonyyarusso, I have 8 hd's on mine, with 40 partitions
[05:45] <arrick> haha
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> arrick: Nice.
[05:45] <noisy_1> how much space?
[05:45] <arrick> tonyyarusso, you want to buy my extra plugn play pci-dual ide adapter?
[05:46] <arrick> noisy_1, that for me?
[05:46] <noisy_1> mhm
[05:46] <zcat[1] > arrick: scsi or ide?
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> arrick: Not in the market for any upgrades until I find a job.
[05:46] <arrick> zcat[1] , ide
[05:46] <zcat[1] > hmm..
[05:46] <merc> i just did a dist-upgrade (kdm failed, but whoopty doo), im trying to get automatix to run, but it wont because it says it wont work on breezy/etc..  shouldn't the dist-upgrade have made it the latest version available?
[05:46] <arrick> I can give you a link to my page hang on zcat[1] 
[05:47] <zcat[1] > I used to have a mobo with four ide ports onboard, and 2 scsi's..
[05:47] <slavik> zcat[1] : server board?
[05:47] <zcat[1] > yeah.
[05:47] <zcat[1] > dual cpu too
[05:47] <slavik> nice
[05:48] <slavik> my school got 6 quad xeon systems :D
[05:48] <Pmafia> madpilot, thanks. i have a better understanding now
[05:48] <zcat[1] > had about 6 ide drives + 2 cdroms + a few scsi drives at one point..
[05:48] <CNAP> kickrud: what's that?
[05:48] <skpl_> can someone show me what a sources.list file with multiverse enabled looks like? i do not have multiverse in my sources.list
[05:48] <slavik> zcat[1] : CD-RW and DVD-RW I think
[05:48] <noisy_1> say I wanted to give tim permission to read and write /hdb/ ... "chmod rw " <-- I'm lost at this point
[05:48] <eyequeue> !tell skpl_ about repos
[05:49] <Flannel> !sources
[05:49] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:50] <wastrel> i have a laptop with ubuntu
[05:50] <nickrud> CNAP, it's a book written by the original authors of C , before it got standardized & extended.
[05:50] <slavik> wastrel: same here
[05:50] <slavik> wastrel: checkout the laptop testing team
[05:50] <zcat[1] > wastrel: I'm on a laptop ruinning dapper now..
[05:50] <arrick> hey zcat[1]  check out the page at http://arrick.no-ip.com/index_013.htm
[05:51] <CNAP> nickrud: yeah i just googled it
[05:51] <merc> how do i find out if im running breezy/dapper/warty etc?
[05:52] <Pmafia> so by adding custom software you have to add a resportry line like "  deb http://www.getsweaaa.com/~tseng/ubuntu/debs ./ "
[05:52] <nickrud> CNAP, I spent many fruitful hours reading that book, it's almost as useful as Strunk
[05:52] <zcat[1] > i have a few dual-ide adapters spare already. two drives is enough for me now though
[05:52] <eyequeue> merc, look in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:52] <Madpilot> Pmafia, you should be very, very careful about adding extra repos - it can break your system in a surprising hurry...
[05:52] <nickrud> 's The Elements of Style
[05:52] <merc> eyequeue: thanks
[05:52] <wastrel> lsb_release -a
[05:53] <merc> wastrel: thanks!
[05:53] <Thinjon100> Has anyone tried compiling ALSA on Breezy?  I'm tryign to get my soundcard to work, but every time I try to compilu the utils, it demands a curses library (but I have the latest ncurses installed)
[05:53] <Pmafia> most likely i wont, but i just want to get a understanding of the linux system, because im new, i just wnat to know how to get around certain things, how to perform certain functions, so i can improve my general knowledge, your help is greatly appreciate :D
[05:53] <merc> ok, next question... i just ran dist-upgrade, and its friggin hoary...shouldnt it be breezy?
[05:54] <slavik> Thinjon100: did you install the ncurses dev library?
[05:54] <CNAP> merc: you need to update the sources.list to reflect breezy
[05:54] <Pmafia> also how would you go about installing from a file you downloaded already, or a file on cd...?
[05:54] <Thinjon100> slavik: I don't think so, is that something I'll need?
[05:54] <skpl_> can someone tell me if there is an mplayer plugin for firefox?
[05:54] <merc> CNAP: is there a howto or something for this?
[05:54] <ro> how does someone find out what system architecture they have?
[05:54] <eyequeue> merc, you run update and dist-upgrade *after* you make the desired changes to sources.list
[05:54] <zcat[1] > Pmafia: depends on the file..
[05:55] <Madpilot> !upgrade
[05:55] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[05:55] <merc> thanks
[05:55] <Pmafia> zcat[1] , what do you mean, what exactly are the dependables?
[05:55] <jadaz87> hello what is the direct path to the cdrom not the /media/cdrom0 one i am talking about the /dev/something
[05:55] <slavik> Thinjon100: if you are compiling something that says you are missing it, you need the dev lib of that thing
[05:55] <Thinjon100> slavik: Thanks a lot... that got it working :)
[05:55] <CNAP> merc: check this out: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntulinux.nl%2Fsource-o-matic&ei=OExMRNa6DZGcsQHvi9n4Ag&sig2=zIsy3z0xnQg4ejnrqncq1Q
[05:55] <slavik> np
[05:55] <merc> thanks for the help guys
[05:56] <noisy_1> wow, chmod is confusing
[05:56] <zcat[1] > Pmafia: most linux stuff is distributed as source so it can be built on a variety of systems.. usually you untar it and find a textfile called README which tells you how to build it.
[05:56] <nickrud> Pmafia, there are four classes of installable software: debs (hug) source(work) rpm(arms length) everything else(tongs)
[05:56] <imbrandon> if a program needs certain lib installed ( LIKE dll's from the windows world ) it will install them automaticly
[05:56] <noisy_1> !chmod
[05:56] <ubotu> from memory, chmod is a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.
[05:56] <jadaz87> nickrud do you what is the direct path to the cdrom not the /media/cdrom0 one i am talking about the /dev/something
[05:56] <nickrud> jadaz87, /dev/hd* most likely, unless you you have scsi
[05:57] <jadaz87> nickrud how do i know which one?
[05:57] <zcat[1] > AFK..
[05:57] <Pmafia> you guys already explain what debs and rpm is, what is source?
[05:57] <skpl_> which is better, totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[05:57] <imbrandon> Pmafia: source code
[05:57] <jadaz87> !deb & rpm
[05:57] <ubotu> jadaz87: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:57] <BTDog> source is the original code
[05:57] <noisy_1> chmod [OPTION] ... MODE[,MODE] ... FILE...   <---- where is the username?
[05:58] <noisy_1> -_-"
[05:58] <Pmafia> which can be compiled into whatever class you wish?
[05:58] <nickrud> jadaz87, a cdrom will have a line where ls -l /dev/hd* will have cdrom 22,  0 appears; a dvd will have cdrom 22, 64 (based on my machine)
[05:58] <eyequeue> noisy_1, again, there is NO username in that command syntax.  man chmod, man chown
[05:58] <imbrandon> it can be compiled into binary then made into a rpm or deb or both
[05:58] <noisy_1> How do I give Tim permission?
[05:58] <wastrel> chmod can be confusing.  it helps to draw it out on a piece of paper when you're first learning it.
[05:58] <imbrandon> but it takes a bit more skill
[05:59] <eyequeue> noisy_1, man adduser as well
[05:59] <imbrandon> than installing a deb
[05:59] <noisy_1> I have the user added, that was the easy part
[05:59] <Pmafia> ubuntu comes with a compiler?
[05:59] <wastrel> noisy_1:  how can you gie tim permission to do what?
[05:59] <linux_galore> Pmafia: ok developers releaser there programes/code as source, basically a source file is just a simple text file full of programming junk that you dont need to understand right now
[05:59] <noisy_1> to /hdb/
[05:59] <eyequeue> noisy_1, you used the group syntax of adduser?
[05:59] <wastrel> Pmafia:  actually no, you can install one easily though
[05:59] <imbrandon> Pmafia: you can install a compiler by running "apt-get install build-essential"
[05:59] <nickrud> Pmafia, it's human readable stuff, before you let the compiler at it to make machine readable code. deb's & rpm's are specific instances of stuff after the compiler got at it, along with some massaging by the developer
[05:59] <noisy_1> nah, it added it when I installed
[05:59] <Pmafia> linux_galore, yeah i know..
[06:00] <eyequeue> noisy_1, to what group did you add that user?
[06:00] <noisy_1> how do I check?
[06:00] <wastrel> groups tim
[06:00] <UKMatt> if I install a program, and it's not listed under Applications, how do I get to it?
[06:00] <eyequeue> noisy_1, you're the one who typed the command, not i
[06:00] <linux_galore> Pmafia: to install the source what we do is turn them into binaries and what a distributions does is put those binaries on a cd and on a repository
[06:00] <Pmafia> thanks guys, "apt-get install build-essential" is the command i would need then...
[06:00] <linux_galore> Pmafia: yes apt-get is all you need to know
[06:00] <noisy_1> : tim dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev
[06:01] <Pmafia> linux_galore, linux systems are all based on internet?
[06:01] <nickrud> Pmafia, yes, if you want to compile source. You will need to get specific support packages for what you want to compile;
[06:01] <imbrandon> Pmafia: most are
[06:01] <Pmafia> if I didnt have any inernet? i would be screwed as far as performing my options?
[06:01] <wastrel> noisy_1:  ok so now you want tim to be able to access /hdb/  which i assume is the mount point for a windows drive or something?
[06:01] <linux_galore> Pmafia: even then thats an option because you can also use synaptic, thats basically a clicky graphical version of apt
[06:01] <noisy_1> yeah, an ntfs drive I want to backup
[06:02] <doms> how can i add GTK+ to my gnome
[06:02] <imbrandon> Pmafia: ummm you COULD use linux without the internet but it would be about the same as windows without the internet, what point is it?
[06:02] <nickrud> doms, gtk+ is a prerequisite for gnome, ?
[06:02] <zcat[1] > Pmafia: I suggest you get familiar with what's already installed (about 1000 packages) and what's readily available in multiverse (about 17,000 packages) before you worry about stuff that isn't packaged..
[06:02] <Pmafia> i think windows has better functionality without internet
[06:02] <doms> ic
[06:02] <UKMatt> does anyone use Rhythmbox?
[06:02] <doms> that is installed already in gnome
[06:02] <UKMatt> - with an iPod that is
[06:02] <nickrud> zcat[1] , make that about 8000 apps & 17000 packages :)
[06:02] <Pmafia> because all the main install comands that i know of are apt-get which are dependant on the internet
[06:03] <seamus-laptop> Anyone from the laptop team in here?
[06:03] <linux_galore> Pmafia: windows doesnt install an office suite by default
[06:03] <imbrandon> Pmafia: apt-get can install from cd-rom too ;)
[06:03] <Pmafia> a unattendant install does...
[06:03] <linux_galore> Pmafia: apt-get also works for stuff on the cd
[06:03] <linux_galore> or dvd
[06:03] <wastrel> noisy_1:  and you are mounting that drive with the "user" flag?
[06:03] <noisy_1> http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/ <-- it is pretty interesting
[06:03] <Pmafia> linux_galore, really? how does the cd version of apt-get work?
[06:04] <noisy_1> I don't know wastrel
[06:04] <linux_galore> Pmafia: yep
[06:04] <imbrandon> and windows dosent come with games or office stuff or pdf readers or trons of other stuff like gimp ( photoshop like graphic editor )
[06:04] <arrick> anyone: if you want to use the pastebot at any time, just type !pastebot to get the address, put your username in and click submit, the paste link will be automatically added here
[06:04] <imbrandon> etc
[06:04] <wastrel> noisy_1:  how are you mounting the drive?  is it automatic?
[06:04] <noisy_1> yeah
[06:04] <noisy_1> pretty sure it is
[06:04] <zcat[1] > the CD is a repository.. apt-get and synaptic can use it just like any other
[06:04] <eyequeue> Pmafia, it's the same apt-get, but sources.list has an entry for the cd or dvd
[06:04] <noisy_1> I think it made it automatic automatically
[06:04] <wastrel> noisy_1:  check in /etc/fstab and see if there's a line for /hdb/
[06:04] <noisy_1> I mounted it once and never had to again
[06:04] <Pmafia> ok ok im getting it.......
[06:04] <Pmafia> so before you use apt-get you have to make an entry in the source.list
[06:05] <nickrud> Pmafia, exactly!!
[06:05] <Madpilot> Pmafia, if you want a different repo, yes
[06:05] <zcat[1] > the whole install is just packages off the CD..
[06:05] <Pmafia> meaning whatever you set in source.list the file can be anywhere, harddrive? cdrom? website, ect...
[06:05] <monsterb> !java
[06:05] <imbrandon> yea but the default sources.list has over 17000 packages
[06:05] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:05] <UKMatt> I have two quick questions for someoneeee....
[06:05] <eyequeue> Pmafia, sources.list should come already populated with the standard entries
[06:05] <linux_galore> Pmafia: remember apt-get see's anything that listed in the /etc/apt/sources.list file even cd's and dvd or even a flash usb thumb drive
[06:05] <nickrud> Pmafia, you can get add just about anyone's repo there, just be careful whose.
[06:05] <Madpilot> UKMatt, please just ask them, don't ask to ask...
[06:05] <noisy_1> there is no entry for /hdb/
[06:05] <UKMatt> madpilot, no one's answering!
[06:05] <Pmafia> okay.........now where getting somewhere lol
[06:06] <imbrandon> Pmafia: its just when you get them from the inet you get the latest etc
[06:06] <eyequeue> UKMatt, ask the questions, if someone knows the answer they will answer
[06:06] <linux_galore> Pmafia: so if you want to know what apt-get see's just type cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:06] <nickrud> Pmafia, a good place to experiment is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:06] <UKMatt> anyways the first is: in Rhythmbox, it recognizes my iPod when it is connected, and reads the songs and allows me to play them, but it only reads the first couple artists, and not the rest, I wanted to know if there was a way to get it to read them all so that I could access ALL my music
[06:06] <imbrandon> agrees ^^
[06:07] <Pmafia> nickrud, thanks for the site.
[06:07] <nickrud> Pmafia, thank seveas, I just get to parrot it
[06:07] <Pmafia> linux_galore, what do you mean, type cat.
[06:07] <noisy_1> what should I put for <options> <dump> and <pass> for /hdb/ in fstab?
[06:07] <arrick> tonyyarusso, if you want to us the pastebot, its at !pastebot
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> arrick: 'k.
[06:07] <eyequeue> Pmafia, "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:07] <Pmafia> in the terminal i type cat /ect/apt/ect,,,,
[06:07] <wastrel> noisy_1:  i think you should read this page and follow the instructions for mounting the drive with the "user" flag turned on - that will allow users to access files on the drive.  link is:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[06:07] <linux_galore> gtkpod*
[06:08] <Pmafia> where do i type that?
[06:08] <noisy_1> thanks wastrel
[06:08] <imbrandon> Pmafia: command prompt
[06:08] <linux_galore> Pmafia: cat basically lists whats in the file
[06:08] <Madpilot> Pmafia, Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[06:08] <arrick> zcat[1] , you see the part?
[06:08] <eyequeue> Pmafia, your terminal
[06:08] <linux_galore> Pmafia: in a terminal type  cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:08] <Pmafia> cat loads up the file browser basically?
[06:08] <linux_galore> Pmafia: no
[06:08] <imbrandon> no
[06:08] <Pmafia> the specific file?
[06:09] <eyequeue> Pmafia, no, cat is an app that does this:  cat (1)              - concatenate files and print on the standard output
[06:09] <linux_galore> Pmafia: it basically just throws what in the file onto the screen for viewing
[06:09] <zcat[1] > cat concatenates a number of files and sends the result to stdout..
[06:09] <wastrel> yes
[06:09] <zcat[1] > "one or more files"
[06:09] <imbrandon> Pmafia: think of the terminal as the "dos prompt" and "cat" is the same as the dos command "type" , so 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list" will just show you whats in that file
[06:09] <UKMatt> I don't think anyone knows, so my second (this is trivial I know... but...) I installed Scorch3d playing around just trying to learn Ubuntu, and followed all the directions including editing the text insterting whatever, and it doesn't show up on any application list, it seems to be installed I just don't know how to get to it
[06:09] <Pmafia> eyequeue, you should make it simplier like linux_galore does lol
[06:09] <wastrel> zero or more files actually
[06:10] <wastrel> with no file argument it defaults to stdin
[06:10] <imbrandon> Pmafia: think of the terminal as the "dos prompt" and "cat" is the same as the dos command "type" , so 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list" will just show you whats in that file
[06:10] <graft> hey does anyone know a decent music player that can browse itunes shares?
[06:10] <zcat[1] > bah, zero or more files then!
[06:10] <Pmafia> imbrandon, thanks.
[06:10] <arrick> Madpilot, check out my pastebot, !pastebot is open for use
[06:10] <eyequeue> Pmafia, that is not my output, that is the standard output from "whatis cat"
[06:10] <heatxsink> graft:  banshee
[06:10] <nickrud> graft, rhythmbox :::)
[06:10] <zcat[1] > cat with zero files reads from stdin though, doesn't it?
[06:10] <graft> curses! none for kde?
[06:10] <UKMatt> graft, i'm trying Rhythmbox so far
[06:10] <davecb> how can i install xubuntu desktop on breezy?
[06:10] <heatxsink> graft:  hehe, oh man you run kde?
[06:10] <heatxsink> hahaha
[06:10] <UKMatt> graft, i hear a lot about amarok too
[06:10] <crimsun> davecb: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:10] <imbrandon> davecb: yes
[06:11] <heatxsink> graft:  j/k
[06:11] <nickrud> graft, I hear amarok has a lot of functionality, try that one
[06:11] <linux_galore> heatxsink: install xfce
[06:11] <Pmafia> dictionary definitions are always more confusing
[06:11] <graft> heatxsink: uh, yeah, i do... it's actually way more popular than gnome
[06:11] <eyequeue> davecb, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:11] <davecb> crimsun,  but already did that i dont get nothing :S i think i need the repository link :S
[06:11] <linux_galore> heatxsink: all xubuntu is is the base ubuntu system with the xfce desktop
[06:11] <heatxsink> graft:  I was just joking around
[06:11] <arrick-pastebot> "Madpilot" at 24.68.123.252 pasted "test paste" (1 line) at http://arrick.no-ip.com:10020/3
[06:11] <jmg> anyone run ubuntu on a macbok pro?
[06:11] <UKMatt> why?! lol
[06:11] <noisy_1> how do I restart fstab to change my mounts?
[06:12] <Pmafia> file browser is whats used to browse the contents of the drive right?
[06:12] <eyequeue> noisy_1, /etc/fstab is sourced upon need, no "restart" involved
[06:12] <heatxsink> graft:  are there numbers or some kind of metric that keeps track of that?
[06:12] <linux_galore> Pmafia: yes
[06:12] <noisy_1> ok
[06:12] <nickrud> noisy_1, try mount -a ; you may need to umount/mount specific points if you have changed /etc/fstab
[06:12] <linux_galore> Pmafia: in Linux everything is a file, even hardware
[06:12] <Madpilot> Pmafia, yes - Places -> Home or any of the entries in the Places menu
[06:12] <graft> heatxsink: um. there's polls and stuff... nothing rigorous
[06:12] <Pmafia> linux_galore, the one thing i dont get, i dont see any drives? can you have different drives like in windows,? c:/ d:/ ect...
[06:12] <linux_galore> Pmafia: the drives thing is actually fake
[06:13] <heatxsink> graft:  ahh, hrm....there should be though don't you think?
[06:13] <linux_galore> Pmafia: its just a link
[06:13] <graft> well rhythmbox was pretty coo last time i tried it... which was like... four years ago
[06:13] <noisy_1> umount /hdb/ ?
[06:13] <jmg> UKmatt: just asking
[06:13] <graft> heatxsink: sure... how would you do it, exactly?
[06:13] <wastrel> noisy_1:   yes that should work.
[06:13] <nickrud> Pmafia, one of the fundamental differences in unix is one unified file system; c:/ or d:/ would be mounted somewhere in the base filesystem
[06:13] <linux_galore> Pmafia: you can create a link to anything an call it anything
[06:13] <heatxsink> graft:  probably make some kind of web service that talks to clients
[06:13] <noisy_1> do i need to remount it with fstab?
[06:14] <graft> heatxsink: 90% of linux users wouldn't do it on account of privacy concerns
[06:14] <Pmafia> what if you have 2 hard drives?
[06:14] <heatxsink> graft:  so that when KDE / GNOME is installed  it'll +1
[06:14] <nickrud> noisy_1, sudo umount /dev/<point> && sudo mount /dev/<point>
[06:14] <Pmafia> its going to show filesystem 1 and filesystem 2?
[06:14] <arrick> hey Madpilot it worked: hoorah
[06:14] <heatxsink> graft:  there's a metric for that too?
[06:14] <graft> heatxsink: you could get statistics from, e.g. debian servers
[06:14] <arrick> thanks
[06:14] <heatxsink> hrmm..
[06:14] <linux_galore> Pmafia: yes I can create a link to lest say Windows on /dev/hda1  and call it Windows C:
[06:14] <graft> that's probably doable.... actually they post package popularity counts
[06:14] <noisy_1> wow, linux rules
[06:14] <Madpilot> arrick, np - you should talk to Sev. and get the regular ubuntu pastebin working that way
[06:15] <nickrud> Pmafia, hm, let me look for a quick tutorial on the way it works
[06:15] <arrick> mad
[06:15] <arrick> haha
[06:15] <Pmafia> nickrud, thanks really appreciate it
[06:15] <arrick> Madpilot, this bot is here to stay no worries
[06:15] <linux_galore> Pmafia: put the link on the desktop
[06:15] <Pmafia> linux_galore, im wonering because i have 2 hard drives
[06:15] <heatxsink> graft:  well check out banshee it's far from polished but it works with browsing iTunes shares
[06:15] <Pmafia> how would linux recognize them?
[06:16] <monkey> I need to know how to compile programs with this distro. Others I could ./configure make and make install. how is this done on here?
[06:16] <Pmafia> both of them included inthe "filesystem"
[06:16] <arrick> Madpilot, had lot of help from buu in #perl with it though, he sshed in to help set it up tonight
[06:16] <wastrel> Pmafia:  one hard drive contains the "root" and the other hard drive appears as a directory under "root"
[06:16] <Pmafia> or seperate filesystems
[06:16] <arrick> Madpilot, been working on it for 4 days now
[06:16] <linux_galore> Pmafia: when Linux boots up it looks in a file called /etc/fstab  and sets up the devices listed in there
[06:16] <eyequeue> monkey, the standard commands work in ubuntu
[06:16] <eyequeue> monkey, sudo apt-get install build-essential, first
[06:16] <Madpilot> monkey, install build-essential package, then do the make/etcetc dance
[06:16] <nickrud> Pmafia, http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/ <-- this is the technical version
[06:16] <wastrel> Pmafia:  floppy disks and cd's are treated the same way.  the main, root filesystem is always at the top of the file tree
[06:17] <monkey> ahhhh cool
[06:17] <Pmafia> wastrel, so "my computer" is "root" in this case?
[06:17] <graft> heatxsink: will do
[06:17] <linux_galore> Pmafia: another thing you will notice linux has no registry like windows all the system configuration files (accept user stuff) are in the /etc directory, there all text files too and can be edited by hand
[06:17] <Madpilot> Pmafia, kind of. Linux & MS setups don't really map exactly to each other
[06:17] <patrick24601> IS there any way to make synaptic automatically resolved dependency issues
[06:18] <nickrud> Pmafia, http://www.freeos.com/articles/3102/ <-- I'd be interested if you consider this one useful
[06:18] <mikomiko> Is there a way to view a video protected by DRM technology in linuz
[06:18] <Madpilot> patrick24601, um, it should already to that...
[06:18] <noisy_1> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb, missing vodepage or other error. In some cases useful info is found in syslog... etc
[06:18] <eyequeue> patrick24601, it should by default
[06:18] <patrick24601> I can't upgrade cairo because of libstd6++, then I cannot up grade that becaise of something else
[06:18] <skpl_> can someone help me? i am having trouble playing a .wmv file
[06:18] <arrick> Pmafia, ms root is C:/windows on some, and C:/windows nt on others
[06:18] <linux_galore> Pmafia: My Computer is actually not a file its an application in windows
[06:18] <mikomiko> those that only run in windows media player and needs of a license
[06:18] <patrick24601> I keep getting error messages that a dependency is not at the correct version
[06:18] <heatxsink> graft:  sweet
[06:18] <wastrel> Pmafia:  what they said :] 
[06:18] <Pmafia> lol
[06:18] <eyequeue> too much ms in here for me
[06:19] <Pmafia> will linux auto detect my hard drives/devices?
[06:19] <UKMatt> jmg, what was that? didn't see
[06:19] <wastrel> noisy_1:  you need to make sure the fstab entry for your hdb is set to use ntfs, and has flags appropriate for ntfs drives
[06:19] <arrick> hahahahahaahah
[06:19] <gn0m3> guys i need help
[06:19] <linux_galore> Pmafia: what my computer does is run a hidden app that checks the windows registry then shows them
[06:19] <arrick> Pmafia, depends on if it is in /etc/fstab
[06:19] <devnull_> hello ... i was wondering what happened to gnome multimedia selector ?
[06:19] <noisy_1> "/dev/hdb        /hdb/           ntfs    ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000     $"
[06:19] <noisy_1> is that right?
[06:19] <patrick24601> i.e. The following package have unresolvable dependencies
[06:19] <Pmafia> nickrud, that website is actually useful
[06:19] <gn0m3> anyone willing to spend a few minutes and help me
[06:19] <arrick> but most of them it will, ntfs you gotta set up manually in order to view it
[06:19] <Madpilot> gn0m3, please just ask your questions, someone will answer if they can
[06:19] <wastrel> !ask
[06:19] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[06:19] <gn0m3> oops
[06:19] <arrick> gn0m3, what up?
[06:20] <gn0m3> what program do you guys use
[06:20] <gn0m3> to play avi files
[06:20] <graft> mplayer
[06:20] <UKMatt> skpl_ as far as i know you'll have to convert to some other format
[06:20] <devnull_> because i can't have sound in xmms and firefox at the same time
[06:20] <Madpilot> patrick24601, messages like that often seem to mean your sources.list is messed up...
[06:20] <devnull_> and it is very annoying
[06:20] <arrick> !restricted
[06:20] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:20] <Pmafia> but i dont understand? will it automatically detect it, if i shutdown, install it, and boot up? or do i hve to put some kind of shortcut in the root?
[06:20] <nickrud> Pmafia, I skimmed it, saw it talked about things that were relevant, but since I'm not reading it from scratch, I wasn't sure
[06:20] <arrick> gn0m3, ^^ see ubotus post
[06:20] <gn0m3> i saw it
[06:20] <patrick24601> madpilot: Easy to fix?
[06:20] <gn0m3> thanks
[06:21] <graft> avi is a restricted format?
[06:21] <noisy_1> yep
[06:21] <doms> wer i can download suite for my breezy badger what i nid is like a teacher grade tracking sytem
[06:21] <Madpilot> patrick24601, set your sources.list back to the standard Ubuntu ones, and you should be OK
[06:21] <Madpilot> !tell patrick24601 about repos
[06:21] <wy> NickGarvey:  Are you here?
[06:21] <arrick> doms check open office
[06:21] <wastrel> noisy_1:   change  /hdb/  to /hdb    get rid of $  and add 0  0  to the end
[06:22] <noisy_1> the 0 0 wont fit
[06:22] <nickrud> avi is not a restricted format, it's a container; it can contain a restricted format
[06:22] <wastrel> how do you mean it won't fit?
[06:22] <noisy_1> oh nvm
[06:22] <gn0m3> arrick:: nothing there about avi
[06:22] <wastrel> k
[06:22] <wy> I can't use mouse and keyboard within qemu. Why?
[06:22] <arrick> noisy_1, you dont have to have the 0 0 in there necessarily
[06:22] <gn0m3> arrick: know any players i can use?
[06:22] <arrick> gn0m3, see graft
[06:22] <doms> openoffice i hav installed a openoffice what i mean is something programming that can automate my grading system
[06:23] <Pmafia> anybody?
[06:23] <graft> yeah i'm a shameless mplayer advocate
[06:23] <linux_galore> Pmafia: ??
[06:23] <Pmafia> but i dont understand? will it automatically detect it, if i shutdown, install it, and boot up? or do i hve to put some kind of shortcut in the root?
[06:23] <biovore> graft: same here
[06:23] <unperson> I'm having trouble recording with the sound recorder tool.
[06:23] <arrick> doms, look for database templates that will work with o.0
[06:23] <gn0m3> graft: what do u use for .avi video playback
[06:23] <Pmafia> for the hard drive...
[06:23] <linux_galore> Pmafia: if you add the hardisk
[06:23] <linux_galore> ??
[06:23] <graft> gn0m3: mplayer, as i said
[06:23] <wastrel> beam robotics
[06:23] <Pmafia> oh there's an option to add...
[06:23] <noisy_1> wastrel still gives the same error
[06:23] <gn0m3> graft: where can i get that
[06:24] <devnull_> does gnome multimedia selector exist anymore ?
[06:24] <unperson> Eventually I'd like to be able to record from the microphone, but at the moment I'd settle for being able to record from any source.
[06:24] <arrick> gn0m3, you using a gui?
[06:24] <graft> gn0m3: it's in the repository if you enable 'multiverse'
[06:24] <linux_galore> Pmafia: you can add yes
[06:24] <alex__> Hello everyone
[06:24] <doms> what was the site of openoffice pls.
[06:24] <wastrel> noisy_1:  i don't have a ntfs partition... maybe someone else can show you their fstab with an example ntfs line
[06:24] <noisy_1> should I get rid of fmask and dmask?
[06:24] <arrick> !o.o
[06:24] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[06:24] <gn0m3> graft: im a noob so i have no idea what your asking me
[06:24] <nickrud> devnull, nope
[06:24] <arrick> !openoffice
[06:24] <Pmafia> another example, lets say i want to connect my cam corder via USB to my computer, can linux do that?
[06:24] <graft> ubotu tell gn0m3 about multiverse
[06:24] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[06:24] <arrick> help me out guys
[06:24] <linux_galore> Pmafia: yes
[06:24] <nickrud> devnull, don't ask me what's the alternative, either :)
[06:24] <linux_galore> Pmafia: dont have to reboot either
[06:25] <linux_galore> Pmafia: and its automatic
[06:25] <noisy_1> can anyone please show me their fstab mount for an ntfs?
[06:25] <Pmafia> Nice.
[06:25] <zcat[1] > Pmafia: most of the time it's like windows.. just plug stuff in and ubuntu finds it..
[06:25] <alex__> Hello im new in here
[06:25] <_jason> ubotu: tell noisy_1 about ntfs
[06:25] <graft> uh, the openoffice site is openoffice.org
[06:25] <Pmafia> zcat[1] , except the hard drive right?
[06:25] <graft> which also happens to be the frickin' name of the program
[06:25] <fogos> hi... someone uses 915resolution?
[06:25] <zcat[1] > hard drive tpp O think..
[06:25] <zcat[1] > too
[06:25] <nickrud> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1 noisy_1 <--- this was created by a dapper install
[06:25] <linux_galore> Pmafia: you will have to manually add the extra hardrive to the setup
[06:26] <doms> you openoffice from template
[06:26] <Pmafia> where's the setup? in the root somewhere?
[06:26] <B166ER> uh, i know its kind of simple, but i just reinstalled, and i forgot what to do so ubuntu can detect my windows HD ?
[06:26] <zcat[1] > linux_galore: it doesn't get detected and added in /media/ ?
[06:26] <B166ER> 'hda1'
[06:26] <Hobbsee> !tell B166ER about windowsdrives
[06:26] <wastrel> !tell B166ER about mountwindows
[06:26] <monkey> where is the kernel path located or how can I find out for myself
[06:26] <arrick> Pmafia, once you install, you can ask in here for help
[06:26] <devnull_> why is it the documentation never matches what is in the repositories ?
[06:26] <linux_galore> zcat[1] : not always I found
[06:26] <Pmafia> arrick, what difference does it make, if i format today, i will need to install it tomorrow...
[06:26] <arrick> who is zed?
[06:27] <_jason> nickrud: did dapper really set up umask=007 and gid=46 what is that group?
[06:27] <sesstreets> im am zed
[06:27] <doms> i hav already installed a openoffice what i mean is something programming that can automate my grading system
[06:27] <arrick> Pmafia, easier to help you do that setup when you have to fstab in hand
[06:27] <noisy_1> do I need anything in options when I mount?
[06:27] <sesstreets> _jason, LATERS
[06:27] <jmg> zed is for zacharaiah
[06:27] <_jason> sesstreets: adios
[06:27] <linux_galore> doms: ??
[06:28] <zcat[1] > zed's dead baby! </tarintino>
[06:28] <graft> devnull_: this is the classic failure of free software projects. crap documentation.
[06:28] <graft> fortunately they have great live support!
[06:28] <devnull_> ya it happens
[06:28] <nickrud> _jason, yes, I just had to step away. I copy&pasted that before I read it :)
[06:28] <devnull_> yes
[06:28] <devnull_> good point
[06:28] <arrick> zcat[1] , he just dcc me, and I wanted to know who the (*&93421 he was
[06:28] <devnull_> though ubuntu is extremely terribly poor with restricted formats
[06:28] <Pmafia> when you install a new hard drive, it creats a fstab file in the root? and you have to edit that?
[06:28] <unperson> So no one has any idea how to record sound, eh?
[06:28] <CNAP> nickrud, is there a permanent way i can set MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to The mozilla directory
[06:28] <linux_galore> graft: Ive always found something on www.google.com/linux
[06:28] <graft> yeah... even debian is less hardcase about that stuff
[06:28] <devnull_> which are the formats everyone in the world uses and there is no way to force people to use anything else
[06:28] <beefsprocket> unperson: audacity is good for recording
[06:28] <nickrud> _jason, plugdev
[06:28] <Pmafia> sorry in the /etc/vfstab
[06:28] <arrick> Pmafia, yes
[06:29] <arrick> /etc/fstab
[06:29] <doms> i'am looking for a grading system
[06:29] <zcat[1] > I always thought it did pretty well considering that in most cases support for them in ubuntu is prohibited by law..
[06:29] <_jason> nickrud: cool, I'm glad to see it takes care of them like that now.  It would be nice for disks-admin to let the user edit perms too though imo
[06:29] <nickrud> CNAP, yes, you can add export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla to /etc/profile , it should be valid
[06:29] <unperson> beefsprocket, Eh, at the moment I just want to be able to record sound period.  I don't care with what program.
[06:30] <linux_galore> doms:  www.freshmeat.net
[06:30] <beefsprocket> unperson: try audacity then
[06:30] <nickrud> _jason, the device permissions & the like are moving so darned fast, it's almost scary
[06:30] <CNAP> nickrud, would you be kind enough to tell me how? appreciate all your help on this
[06:30] <Pmafia> does linux sometimes autodetect? or you have to always manualy fix the fstab file?
[06:30] <linux_galore> doms: no shortage of school apps
[06:30] <wastrel> doms:  check freshmeat
[06:30] <monkey> where is the kernel path located or how can I find out for myself?
[06:31] <unperson> beefsprocket, Should I expect audacity to work if sound recorder is not?
[06:31] <arrick> Pmafia, sometimes if you are lucky, but most of the time ntfs has to be configured by hand to be viewable
[06:31] <nickrud> CNAP, gksudo gedit /etc/profile      , then add that line to the end of that file & save it. When you next log out and back in, it should be active
[06:31] <CNAP> nickrud, i knew that ;-)
[06:31] <linux_galore> monkey: /boot
[06:31] <beefsprocket> unperson: I had a hard time getting soundrecorder to capture anything
[06:31] <gn0m3> _jason: sup man
[06:31] <Pmafia> arrick, alow, what is the best format for linux fat32, fat or ntfs?
[06:31] <doms> i did not find any matches on freshmeat
[06:31] <zcat[1] > Linux does better detecting ntfs than windows does detecting ext3 or reiserfs :)
[06:31] <arrick> Pmafia, ext3
[06:31] <devnull_> even the suggested packages dont exist
[06:31] <zcat[1] > reiserfs!!
[06:31] <Pmafia> do most hard drives support that?
[06:32] <arrick> yes
[06:32] <gn0m3> graft: hey graft what do i do after i install repositories
[06:32] <graft> does windows even detect ext3 or reieserfs?
[06:32] <arrick> nope
[06:32] <graft> gn0m3: just install mplayer-686
[06:32] <Pmafia> lol
[06:32] <Madpilot> Pmafia, the hard drive doesn't care what it's formatted to
[06:32] <zcat[1] > hard drives don't 'support' filesystems, they just store bitpatterns
[06:32] <gn0m3> graft: i couldnt find anything with mplayer
[06:32] <gn0m3> graft: lemme check again
[06:32] <linux_galore> graft: not by default there are apps though that will let windows do so
[06:32] <graft> gn0m3: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[06:32] <Pmafia> madewokherd, indeed.
[06:32] <graft> linux_galore: yeah, probably written by linux zealots
[06:32] <wastrel> doms:  not sure what you're looking for, but i found several gradebook apps on freshmeat just now :]   i like to check before i send ppl over
[06:32] <beefsprocket> unperson: I posted this on the forums re audacity: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=154375&highlight=beefsprocket+audacity
[06:32] <noisy_1> how many mhz is in a simple + - / * hand calculator?
[06:33] <Pmafia> do you have the option to format it ext3 when your performing a fresh install?
[06:33] <beefsprocket> noisy_1: how fast can you push the buttons :P
[06:33] <linux_galore> graft: always use shares
[06:33] <graft> meanwhile linux has had a fricking GMail-based filesystem for like a year now
[06:33] <nickrud> Pmafia, yes, that's the default ubuntu file type
[06:33] <zcat[1] > noisy_1: i think they're asynchronous
[06:33] <linux_galore> graft: if you lazy just use a thumb drive
[06:33] <devnull_> sorry for complaining ... just not in a good mood about the state of any debian based distro
[06:33] <FearMoth> what ports do gnome-btdownload use by default?
[06:34] <zed> hi, ubuntu-peple! :) my isa-soundcard doesn't work at all :( how i canfix it? (mediaforte with fm-tuner)
[06:34] <kestas> zcat[1] : nah theyre not asynchronous
[06:34] <CNAP> NICKRUD: HOLY CRAP! i just opened that file...where in the hell do i put that line?
[06:34] <arrick> hey Pmafia check ou tthe next post
[06:34] <graft> linux_galore: sometimes that's not good enough... i mean i can't always keep all my stuff on an independent networked server
[06:34] <arrick> !dualboot
[06:34] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[06:34] <noisy_1> bah, I'll figure the rest of this out tomorrow
[06:34] <zcat[1] > on well.. probably <<1MHz
[06:34] <noisy_1> I'm off to ZzZz
[06:34] <noisy_1> later
[06:34] <linux_galore> graft: ooh you mean meta search, yeah Linux has had that for ages, way more than a year
[06:34] <Pmafia> the next post?
[06:34] <nickrud> CNAP, just go to the bottom, add it there :)
[06:34] <doms>  TabCompletionGradeBook-1.0-beta4.1.jar i download that then i ran it something missing on his programming
[06:34] <arrick> that will help immensly if you look at ubotus last post
[06:34] <doms> no view of reports
[06:34] <graft> linux_galore: no, i mean a gmail file system... it uses gmail to build a fully transparent network file system
[06:35] <Pmafia> "eyequeue wants you to know: [rute]  a great guide for learning about Linux and is available at http://rute.2038bug.com/" is the last post
[06:35] <gn0m3> graft: it didnt work [sudo command] 
[06:35] <unperson> beefsprocket, Ok, I'll check it out.
[06:35] <arrick> Pmafia,
[06:35] <arrick> !dualboot
[06:35] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[06:35] <linux_galore> graft: gmail is a service not a file system
[06:35] <graft> http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html
[06:35] <nickrud> CNAP, but, I still think it's a bug that you need to do that. I'll never run monodevelop myself so I can't usefully file it
[06:35] <Pmafia> thanks
[06:35] <freeninad> Hi
[06:35] <arrick> np :^)
[06:35] <linux_galore> graft: you mean use the gmail account as a virtual storage system
[06:35] <zcat[1] > gmail stores bitpatterns. You can use it as a filesystem!!
[06:35] <graft> gn0m3: do you have multiverse enabled?
[06:35] <freeninad> I had 1 problem
[06:35] <doms> no view of reports
[06:35] <graft> linux_galore: yeah
[06:36] <gn0m3> i have universe enabled
[06:36] <linux_galore> graft: yeah that been around for about 3 years
[06:36] <kestas> nothing virtual about it
[06:36] <graft> gn0m3: you need multiverse i think
[06:36] <arrick> night all
[06:36] <blindx> the trash is ~/.Trash -- correct?
[06:36] <CNAP> nickrud: i agree
[06:36] <freeninad> can any one help
[06:36] <devnull_> is there an easy way to get xmms and firefox to use ESD at the same time ?
[06:36] <nickrud> CNAP, so file it :)
[06:36] <arrick> evening to you cowboy nickrud
[06:36] <kestas> blindx: not all of it, if you have a mountpoint in ~/asdf/ then there'll be a trash at ~/asdf/.Trash too
[06:36] <wastrel> doms:  http://www.gnu.org/software/ggradebook/  maybe.  It's not in the repos though...  also you might want to ask the edubuntu folks about gradebook software.
[06:36] <devnull_> well even a hardway would do
[06:36] <linux_galore> graft: even more funky link gmail to beagle and you have a virtual meta search system for all your remote backup files
[06:36] <CNAP> nickrud: what other IDE's can i use for C#>
[06:36] <graft> linux_galore: heh... not likely, gmail isonly 2 years old
[06:36] <nickrud> arrick, yeah, I'm here sowing discontent & discord, how about you :)
[06:36] <freeninad> my windoze connection for internet shows
[06:36] <_jason> devnull_: tell firefox to use aoss
[06:37] <Thinjon100> Can anyone give me any guidance in installing wine?  I can't seem to find it in the packages... tried adding the backports to my sources.list but it still doesn't show
[06:37] <blindx> kestas: but that wouldn't show up in the icon in the bottom right, would it?
[06:37] <_jason> gn0m3: hi
[06:37] <freeninad> connect using ISDN channel
[06:37] <kestas> blindx: it should
[06:37] <arrick> I was too, check out my pastebot nickrud, !pastebot
[06:37] <blindx> hm.
[06:37] <freeninad> and this has been congigured as dialup
[06:37] <linux_galore> graft: for you maybe :-)
[06:37] <nickrud> !pastebot
[06:37] <ubotu> methinks pastebot is http://pastebot.no-ip.org
[06:37] <freeninad> how to set this up in ubuntu
[06:37] <devnull_> _jason, how do you do that ?
[06:37] <blindx> welllll... how come right clicking and "Empty Trash" doesn't rid me of trash? :D
[06:37] <devnull_> i have no multimedia selector for gnome anymore
[06:37] <_jason> devnull_: are you using default firefox in breezy?
[06:37] <k31th> Guys im trying to use pam_mkhomedir.so to make a users home dir the first timr they log into SquirrelMail (SquirrelMail needs a home dir to store email and files). However im failing how can i see whats happening ? is there a way of finding out wat error its throwing back ?
[06:37] <doms> ok thanks wastrel
[06:38] <devnull_> _jason, dapper
[06:38] <nickrud> arrick, actually not bad, especially if it defaulted to #ubuntu for the channel
[06:38] <_jason> devnull_: #ubuntu+1 for dapper support please
[06:38] <devnull_> okay
[06:38] <kestas> blindx: is the trash still in .Trash? do you have any mountpoints which would also have Trash? which files are left? any weird permission problems?
[06:38] <arrick> nickrud, it does when accesed from in here
[06:38] <Thinjon100> Anybody know how to install wine?
[06:38] <arrick> and it sends the link here autmatically nickrud
[06:38] <TehDotCommunist> I have a problem where I have magenta line all over my monitor, scrolling makes more lines, moving a window turns that window completely magenta, rebooting doesnt help......and it true cymk magenta
[06:38] <arrick> Thinjon100, sudo apt-get wine
[06:38] <TehDotCommunist> any ideas?
[06:38] <kestas> Thinjon100: if you cant figure out how to install it you wont get very far using it
[06:39] <linux_galore> Thinjon100: apt-get install wine
[06:39] <arrick> yeah that to linux_galore
[06:39] <nickrud> arrick, not from here, it goes to (none) Is this machine available 24/7?
[06:39] <arrick> haha
[06:39] <blindx> kestas, clicking the icon opens up Trash, obviously, but nothing's there.... hovering over the icon gives me "18 Items in Trash" -- I've tried Ctrl+h, they're not hidden..
[06:39] <graft> TehDotCommunist: do you have lines when you boot, before the OS starts up?
[06:39] <arrick> yep
[06:39] <Thinjon100> I tried that... it returned an error... said it couldn't install, but it was referenced by another package
[06:39] <TehDotCommunist> graft, nope, not till X loads
[06:39] <gn0m3> graft: doesnt work
[06:39] <doms> anybody can help me wer i can get more sample programs in gambas with free source code? is possible i can use like MS Access for my gambas? is their something an altertaive of MS Access in OpenOffice
[06:40] <graft> TehDotCommunist: hm. well i had that problem and it was just my card being fried
[06:40] <arrick> ok, I gotta fix that part, should go to the channel its attached to
[06:40] <claiton> hello
[06:40] <Thinjon100> Package wine has no installation candidate
[06:40] <kestas> blindx: hmm, not sure, open up a terminal and look in the .Trash places
[06:40] <graft> gn0m3: mplayer is definitely in multiverse
[06:40] <nickrud> _jason, you wouldn't happen to have a link in your forebrain for plugdev would you?
[06:40] <gn0m3> i just checked
[06:40] <kestas> blindx: try removing the trash icon and putting it back afterwards
[06:40] <gn0m3> is there a section its in?
[06:40] <doms> is open base like a MS access
[06:40] <graft> gn0m3: you have multiverse enabled, you did sudo apt-get update?
[06:40] <_jason> nickrud: nope, first time I heard about it
[06:40] <Flannel> doms: yes, there is. OOo "Base"
[06:40] <kestas> doms: its way worse, but yeah
[06:41] <linux_galore> Thinjon100: mean wine isnt on any or the repositories listed in the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[06:41] <linux_galore> Thinjon100: you need to add one
[06:41] <arrick> linux_galore, Thinjon100 needs easyaource to help him ut
[06:41] <gn0m3> yes
[06:41] <claiton> only in English ?
[06:41] <nickrud> I'm beginning to think I wanna kick some kernel developers to heck & gone, except I couldn't do without them
[06:41] <blindx> kestas, no mount points had a .Trash, but removing the icon cleared the situation up. Thanks.
[06:42] <arrick> nickrud, yep
[06:42] <linux_galore> Thinjon100: or run apt-get update
[06:42] <Flannel> claiton: we have other channels for other languages, which are you looking for?
[06:42] <crimsun> nickrud: eh?
[06:42] <TehDotCommunist> graft, here is the screen http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a99/bhchance/?action=view&current=Screenshot.png
[06:42] <Thinjon100> Will try that
[06:42] <graft> gn0m3: then sudo apt-get install mplayer ought to work...
[06:42] <gn0m3> ok
[06:42] <gn0m3> thanks
[06:42] <doms> can i make a data connection from my gambas front-end to my Open Base for my back-end
[06:42] <nickrud> crimsun, I'm just slow to keep up with the hotplug/udev/plugdev/????? changes
[06:42] <claiton> i wold prefer in portuguese
[06:43] <claiton> or .... i want in Potuguese
[06:43] <nickrud> crimsun, if you happen to know of a document that would bring me up to date ....
[06:43] <wastrel> !pt
[06:43] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:43] <claiton> !pt
[06:43] <Pmafia> well, for a beginner i do find linux very confusing, as i did when i first used a windows, i appreciate all your help guys, this is probly the most helpful irc channel i ever been too lol, thanks again for everything guys, good night.
[06:43] <claiton> alright!! Thanks!!
[06:43] <crimsun> nickrud: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2005-December/000028.html
[06:44] <Flannel> doms: you should look into a real database if youre looking to do anything substantial programming-wse
[06:44] <arrick-pastebot> "arrick" at 192.168.1.24 pasted "hello" (1 line) at http://arrick.no-ip.com:10020/4
[06:44] <linux_galore> bbl watching video
[06:44] <Thinjon100> Ahhh... apparently there aren't any debs for wine in 64-bit architecture :(
[06:44] <arrick> sorry about that wrong channel
[06:44] <gn0m3> graft: are u sure its called mplayer
[06:44] <graft> TehDotCommunist: um. that's a very tiny screenshot, but i guess the problem is most likely your monitor or your video card...
[06:45] <mikomiko> I am using UBUNTU GNOME. I want to view some videos protected with DRM, i previously can be view them using WMP with license
[06:45] <graft> gn0m3: yeah, i'm sure... want to pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:45] <harisund> Hello people, I want my machine to have a static ip. How do I set its DNS servers using the command line?
[06:45] <doms> i'am not familiar for the other database built-in linux
[06:45] <doms> like SQl
[06:45] <graft> mikomiko: you're screwed, sorry
[06:45] <gn0m3> graft: can u repeat that in english [ima beginner] 
[06:45] <crimsun> harisund: you'd enter that data into /etc/network/interfaces. man 5 interfaces
[06:45] <graft> ubotu tell gn0m3 about pastebin
[06:46] <blmartin777> what is the dapper chat
[06:46] <harisund> crimsun, I know .. but man interfaces doesn't have any information for entering the dns details.
[06:46] <crimsun> harisund: as for the dns servers, place those into /etc/resolv.conf
[06:46] <graft> #ubuntu+1, blmartin777
[06:46] <blmartin777> ubuntu+1 is that right
[06:46] <gn0m3> graft: oh this thing
[06:46] <arrick> mikomiko, find the css code and remove the DRM
[06:46] <gn0m3> graft: what did you want be to paster
[06:46] <harisund> crimsun: Ah smooth .. thanks a ton man !
[06:46] <graft> gn0m3: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:46] <gn0m3> graft: how do i get that
[06:47] <graft> arrick: you can't remove WMV drm with css, only DVDs
[06:47] <nickrud> crimsun, thanks. Of course, your personal experience expands on that :)
[06:47] <arrick> graft ok
[06:47] <CNAP> nickrud: can you do me a favor and check the pastebin to see if i've entered the path correctly? i'm not getting any change in behavior
[06:47] <arrick> CNAP, paste the link
[06:47] <nickrud> CNAP, which pastebin?
[06:47] <graft> gn0m3: um. you can type 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list'
[06:47] <arrick> CNAP, use !pastebot
[06:48] <rob138> does ssh only work within a lan?
[06:48] <Thinjon100> !pastebot
[06:48] <ubotu> well, pastebot is http://pastebot.no-ip.org
[06:48] <arrick> rob138, with wireless as well
[06:48] <nickrud> !pastebin
[06:48] <graft> no, ssh works everywhere...
[06:48] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[06:48] <CNAP> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12822
[06:48] <CNAP> !pastebot
[06:49] <nickrud> CNAP, change that line to   '   export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla  '
[06:49] <gn0m3> graft: hey graft this is the link                 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12823
[06:49] <nickrud> CNAP, when you log out & back in, monodevelop will use that data
[06:49] <arrick> see what i mean about chaos nickrud (heheh hahah) night
[06:50] <CNAP> nickrud, ok let me try it
[06:50] <nickrud> arrick, yes, I do. I love amorphousness
[06:50] <gn0m3> graft: did it work
[06:50] <arrick> nickrud, old habbits die hard dont they?
[06:51] <graft> gn0m3: err... okay, so you want to comment out the second two 'deb' lines, the ones for 'breezy main restricted'
[06:51] <rob138> arrick, what would prevent my laptop from connecting to a computer through ssh, unless it is connected in the same lan?
[06:51] <graft> gn0m3: then you want to comment out the next two, the ones for 'breezy-updates'
[06:51] <arrick> rob138, you need to show the error
[06:51] <arrick> or tell what it is
[06:51] <graft> gn0m3: then comment out the next two, for breezy universe
[06:52] <wastrel> rob138:  firewall or NAT blocking access
[06:52] <arrick> most of the time cause you have it setup for the internal lan, not the external ip with port 22 forwarded to that puter
[06:52] <graft> gn0m3: then change 'breezy-backports' in the next two deb lines to just 'breezy'
[06:52] <nickrud> arrick, speaking of habbits, there's a neighborhood in the portland area that has all street names of streets from the tolkien
[06:52] <rob138> all it says is connection time out port 22
[06:52] <rob138> how do i change the setup?
[06:53] <arrick> and you are trying to connect to which ip?
[06:53] <wastrel> rob138:  connecting from where and to where
[06:53] <gn0m3> graft: OMG i found it== it was  mozillamplayer
[06:53] <rob138> from this computer i am on wirelessly, to my desktop computer
[06:53] <graft> gn0m3: and finally, comment out the second-to-last deb line, for 'breezy universe'
[06:53] <arrick> you connect fin internally correct?
[06:53] <graft> gn0m3: no, that' snot it... sorry :)
[06:53] <gn0m3> graft: X] 
[06:53] <doms> oooooooooo i c  a tools>Database MAnager from gambas
[06:53] <doms> cool haaaaaaaaaa
[06:53] <doms> no need for openbase
[06:53] <rob138> arrick, what do you mean?
[06:53] <gn0m3> graft:  where and how do i comment the lines
[06:54] <arrick> if you hook hardwire, you connect without timing out?
[06:54] <rob138> yes
[06:54] <graft> gn0m3: err just stick a # in front of them
[06:54] <arrick> wastrel, you getting this?
[06:54] <gn0m3> gnome:  where do i add a number
[06:54] <graft> gn0m3: err actually i'll do it and pastebin the new file for you, ok?
[06:54] <gn0m3> ok
[06:54] <gn0m3> ThANKS
[06:55] <Alives> whats wrong with this sudo entry? %www-data ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL /usr/share/cacti/scripts/iptables.pl
[06:55] <arrick> graft, tryout !pastebot
[06:55] <arrick> much easier
[06:55] <gn0m3> ubotu tell gn0m3 about pastebot
[06:55] <rob138> arrick, is my laptop just looking on the wireless network i'm on for the IP?
[06:56] <arrick> not necessarily, you have the ip of the desktop pc that your trying to connect to right?
[06:56] <graft> !pastebot
[06:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebot is http://pastebot.no-ip.org
[06:56] <arrick> and the are on the same router?
[06:56] <rob138> yes
[06:56] <rob138> no
[06:56] <CNAP> oy vey...
[06:56] <arrick> ok, thats your problem then
[06:57] <rob138> arrick, what is?
[06:57] <CNAP> nickrud: i did what you said and still doesn't want to work. i not only logged out, but rebooted
[06:57] <arrick> one of the routers is blocking the ssh
[06:57] <graft> err... anyway, gn0m3, replace the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list with the version here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12824
[06:57] <arrick-pastebot> "sfar" at 83.226.240.125 pasted "This is a test" (2 lines) at http://arrick.no-ip.com:10020/5
[06:57] <sfar> kewl
[06:57] <sfar> :D
[06:57] <gn0m3> graft: dont mean to be dumb but how do i replace :)
[06:57] <nickrud> CNAP, in a terminal (in X) env | sort ; does MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME appear ?
[06:57] <rob138> arrick, what do i need to do?
[06:57] <arrick> is the wirless ap the same that you hook into witht the wire?
[06:58] <graft> gn0m3: err... open it in your favorite editor, delete the contents, put the new ones in?
[06:58] <rob138> arrick, no
[06:58] <gn0m3> graft: err  im lost
[06:58] <graft> gn0m3: try 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' for the easiest one
[06:58] <CNAP> nikcrud, no
[06:58] <CNAP> nickrud, no
[06:58] <arrick> you need to forward port 22 on the wireless ap to the router that your desktop is hooked to then
[06:58] <gn0m3> graft: ok when i do that
[06:59] <rob138> arrick, how do i do that?
[06:59] <arrick> what is your wireless ip #?
[06:59] <rob138> 147.222.241.192
[07:00] <arrick> that looks more like your actual ip address, you have more than one?
[07:00] <arrick> or is that an internal one?
[07:00] <gn0m3> graft: what do i do after that
[07:00] <rob138> arrick, you're going over my head, what am i looking for if not my ip?
[07:00] <nickrud> CNAP, I'm gonna skip all the right stuff, and tell you a hack: create the file ~/.gnomerc , and add the line export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla     to that file.
[07:01] <nickrud> CNAP, don't forget to file a bug about this
[07:01] <arrick> your internal ip on your network, not your isp#
[07:01] <rob138> arrick, how should i figure that out?
[07:01] <CNAP> nickrud, i've done a little research and i don't think i'm the first one to complain about it. but i'll file one anyway just so they don't forget about it
[07:01] <arrick> type iwconfig in terminal
[07:02] <arrick> look for the gateway address then post that
[07:02] <nickrud> CNAP, bugs get dealt with one way or another someday, if the bug doesn't exist the issue will drop thru the cracks.
[07:02] <grap3> Can I install kernal headers from some place other than the installation cd? It's refusing to work from the cd for some reason.
[07:02] <arrick> what namebrand is your "router" rob1
[07:02] <arrick> rob138, ^^
[07:02] <graft> gn0m3: um, okay, pasted in the new version? just do 'sudo apt-get update', and then 'sudo apt-get install mplayer'
[07:03] <nickrud> CNAP, like I said I'll never use monodevelop so I'll never see that but. You have :)
[07:03] <gn0m3> graft: i tried i get somethign that says E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:03] <graft> gn0m3: um, close synaptic
[07:03] <CNAP> nickrud: alright, do i need to log out and back in to activate it?
[07:03] <gn0m3> oops
[07:03] <gn0m3> :P
[07:03] <LeeJunFan> Can someone jog my memory as to what app might display remote web pics on my desktop [ie. mrtg graphs] , I swear I once had an app that acted more like windows active desktop than telak does.
[07:03] <rob138> arrick, it's my school's wireless network, i don't know.  but the thing is, this used to work. would it have anything to do with switching from ndiswrapper to bcm43xx on this computer?
[07:03] <arrick> very well could
[07:03] <nickrud> CNAP, try source ~/.gnomerc from a terminal, then run monodevelop from that terminal. If it works there, it should be good anytime you log in
[07:04] <wastrel> rob138:  can you ping the desktop system?
[07:04] <nickrud> CNAP, log into gnome
[07:04] <rob138> yes i can
[07:04] <arrick> unless they blocked the port on you
[07:04] <grap3> Can I install kernal headers from some place other than the installation cd? It's refusing to work from the cd for some reason.
[07:04] <CNAP> nickrud: ~/.gnomerc is going to be located in my home dir?
[07:04] <nickrud> CNAP, yes, that's what ~ means (/home/<you>)
[07:04] <graft> grap3: what's it saying?
[07:05] <CNAP> nickrud: just checking.
[07:05] <wastrel> rob138:  but when you ssh to the same system, it hangs?
[07:05] <grap3> Unpacking replacement linux-headers-2.6.12-9 ...
[07:05] <grap3> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[07:05] <grap3> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault.
[07:05] <nickrud> CNAP, just expanding, like the ~ :)
[07:05] <graft> grap3: can you install it with dpkg by hand?
[07:06] <rob138> wastrel, yse
[07:06] <rob138> yes
[07:06] <grap3> I wouldn't know... I'm a linux newb.
[07:06] <CNAP> nickrud: why is it when i type 'ls' in the home dir it doesn't show
[07:06] <arrick_inbed> rob138, are you te netadmin at the school?
[07:06] <wastrel> rob138:  but you can ssh when your laptop is connected to the ethernet, rather than wireless?
[07:06] <graft> grap3: erm... try dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers-<etc.>.deb
[07:06] <nickrud> CNAP, you'd use ls -a (all, including the hidden files that start with a .)
[07:07] <gn0m3> graft: can u connect i wanna send u something
[07:07] <arrick_inbed> wastrel, the answer to your last is yes
[07:07] <rob138> arrick_inbed, no i am not
[07:07] <gn0m3> graft: it isnt working
[07:07] <CNAP> nickrud: ok i ran monodevelop, nothing....
[07:07] <rob138> wastrel, yes i can
[07:07] <graft> gn0m3: err, what's it saying?
[07:07] <gn0m3> You should explicitly select one to install.
[07:07] <gn0m3> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:07] <gn0m3> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:07] <gn0m3> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[07:07] <gn0m3> E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[07:07] <gn0m3> emin@ubuntu:~$
[07:07] <gn0m3> emin@ubuntu:~$ apt-get update
[07:07] <gn0m3> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[07:08] <graft> gn0m3: err, don't do that
[07:08] <gn0m3> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[07:08] <gn0m3> sorry about that
[07:08] <arrick_inbed> rob138, your netadmin might have done some updating and closed the port
[07:08] <graft> gn0m3: use the pastebin
[07:08] <wastrel> rob138:  ok is there some access list on the desktop that is restricting incoming ssh connections?  /etc/hosts.allow maybe?
[07:08] <arrick_inbed> gn0m3, sudo that
[07:08] <grap3> cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[07:08] <grap3> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:08] <grap3>  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386.deb
[07:08] <grap3> =(
[07:08] <FearMoth> where do I set the device for sane to use? xsane wants to use my tv capture card for some reason, and I don't know how to set it to my parallel port scanner
[07:08] <rob138> arrick_inbed, well if my friend is also connected wirelessly in the same building as me, i can connect to him, but not when he is plugged in at our dorm and i am wireless ly away
[07:09] <graft> gn0m3: um, it gives you a list of packages to choose from to install?
[07:09] <nickrud> CNAP, if MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla monodevelop works, putting export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla in ~/.gnomerc and relogging in and running monodevelop in a terminal will work. Check for typos.
[07:09] <rob138> wastrel, would the installation of KDE alter that, because i think this may have been concurrent with switching to kde
[07:09] <gn0m3> graft: ermmm im not sure
[07:10] <wastrel> rob138:  no, kde install wouldn't do that
[07:10] <graft> grap3: do ls /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers* to see the full filename
[07:10] <CNAP> nickrud: ok let me check, and tweak...
[07:10] <graft> gn0m3: when you do sudo apt-get install mplayer, can you pastebin that output? all of it?
[07:10] <gn0m3> yes
[07:10] <wastrel> rob138:  i think this must be a restriction getting from the wireless to the wired network.  you are in a dorm or something?  that's got wifi and ethernet throughout the building?
[07:11] <gn0m3> graft: its http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12825
[07:11] <vinboy> hi, i have just bought a new HDD, i would like to make it my as my HOME
[07:11] <Kambingz> hi
[07:11] <vinboy> should I use the Ubuntu installer's partitioning GUI to do it or I can do it by editing the /etc/fstab?
[07:12] <Kambingz> i got the cd's last month
[07:12] <rob138> wastrel, the dorm has ethernet only, and the two linux computers can connect fine in it through wired,  then other buildings have wireless, which cannot connect to either of the wired computers in the dorm, but can connect to each other wirlessly, if that makes sense
[07:12] <Kambingz> but i cannot installes
[07:12] <graft> gn0m3: yeah... so do 'sudo apt-get install mplayer-586'
[07:12] <gn0m3> k
[07:12] <Kambingz> error package or something
[07:12] <egerds> where do I find a torrent for Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[07:12] <grap3> ls: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers*: No such file or directory
[07:12] <Cheerios> hello all
[07:12] <graft> grap3: oops. um. i guess it doesn't cache stuff off the CD, makes sense
[07:12] <Cheerios> does exim come with mysql support built-in??
[07:12] <wastrel> rob138:  while wireless, can you connect to internet hosts via ssh?
[07:12] <egerds> or a xdcc here? or ftp? for Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[07:13] <BTDog> vinboy, mount the new drive somewhere first, copy /home to it, then mount it to /home
[07:13] <graft> grap3: well you have to find the .deb file on the CD-ROM
[07:13] <grap3> =\
[07:13] <rob138> wastrel, have not tried that, is there an example i could try?
[07:13] <vinboy> BTDog: ok so you mean editing the /etc/fstab?
[07:13] <wastrel> try polarhome.com
[07:14] <BTDog> when you finally want to mount it to home edit the /etc/fstab
[07:14] <vinboy> BTDog: ic.. thanks buddy :P
[07:14] <BTDog> temporarily mount it to like /mnt/newdrive
[07:14] <vinboy> ok
[07:14] <vinboy> yes i get wat you mean now
[07:14] <vinboy> copy the data then mount it
[07:14] <vinboy> thx
[07:14] <BTDog> np
[07:14] <skpl_> can someone help me? i am having trouble playing a video with vlc player
[07:14] <harisund> aad/clear
[07:15] <rob138> wastrel, yes i connected to it
[07:15] <graft> skpl_: wha sorta video?
[07:15] <imbrandon> !restrictedformats
[07:15] <ubotu> well, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:15] <skpl_> graft, would you like the url?
[07:16] <nickrud> CNAP, success?
[07:16] <graft> skpl_: um. yes?
[07:16] <skpl_> graft, http://www.firefoxflicks.com/flick/index.php?id=21159&c=false
[07:16] <CNAP> nickrud: FCUK YEAH! YOU'RE A MAD GENIUS!
[07:16] <skpl_> graft, evidently it is a quicktime file, which vlc should play
[07:16] <nickrud> CNAP, people who know me would drop the noun
[07:17] <CNAP> nickrud: so how do you know all this stuff?
[07:17] <nickrud> CNAP, same you will, time
[07:17] <imbrandon> i just played it with mozilla-mplayer just fine skpl_
[07:17] <graft> skpl_: read that restrictedformats thing
[07:17] <nickrud> CNAP, if you get serious, you'll outstrip me in no time :)
[07:17] <graft> skpl_: i can play it fine here with mplayer plug-in...
[07:17] <wastrel> rob138:  wellsir i don't know what to say exactly.  i'd recommend bugging the campus IT support office.  without knowing how the networks are set up it's hard to say where the problem is.  it's probably not a routing issue, cause you can ping. so i guess it's a firewall blocking access. ...
[07:18] <skpl_> graft, where can i get the mplayer plugin?
[07:18] <Sivik> how do i use apt-get to upgrade the kernel to at least 2.6.16
[07:18] <skpl_> !restrictedformats
[07:18] <ubotu> somebody said restrictedformats was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:18] <graft> skpl_: mozilla-mplayer packarge
[07:18] <nickrud> Sivik, you won't
[07:18] <CNAP> nickrud: lol, now that i got it working i've got to figure out how to use it
[07:18] <Sivik> ok
[07:18] <Sivik> then how do i do it?
[07:18] <Sivik> using the src?
[07:18] <wastrel> rob138:  you might want to map ssh to a different port and try again...
[07:18] <nickrud> Sivik, you'd need to use the source :)
[07:18] <graft> they don't have beyond 2.6.15 in dapper yet
[07:18] <Sivik> ok
[07:19] <rob138> wastrel, how would i map it?
[07:19] <graft> gotta get it from kernel.org and much about
[07:19] <Flannel> I don't believe they will ever.
[07:19] <nickrud> Sivik, and you'd need to check out the patches that ubuntu adds to the kernel, to see if you want to port them to the vanilla sources
[07:19] <graft> yeah, at this point probably not
[07:19] <CNAP> nickrud: so what's a .gnomerc file anyway?
[07:19] <Flannel> since, .16 is features, not security fixes, right?
[07:19] <Sivik> ok
[07:19] <rob138> watrel, can you ssh 147.222.178.28?
[07:19] <Sivik> what is the vanilla sources?
[07:19] <nickrud> CNAP, it's simply a file that gnome reads upon startup, it's like a .bashrc
[07:19] <crimsun> graft: we won't have beyond 2.6.15 in dapper.
[07:19] <graft> dunno, haven't read the changelog, Flannel
[07:20] <wastrel> rob138:  probably edit the port line in /etc/ssh/ssd_config and restart ssh (on the desktop)
[07:20] <nickrud> Sivik, kernel.org
[07:20] <BTDog> why is libmysqlclient10 a suggested package when you install bitchx?
[07:20] <CNAP> nickrud: so basically a really simple script
[07:20] <zyth> man, loading openoffice2 on a livecd is ... killer
[07:20] <wastrel> rob138:  i can't connect to that ip via ssh
[07:21] <wastrel> rob138:  no ping either.
[07:21] <rob138> no ping?
[07:21] <skpl_> graft, i installed that package but i do not see it anywhere after i did about:plugins in my browser
[07:21] <nickrud> CNAP, roughly yes.
[07:21] <graft> Sivik: what do you need 2.6.16 for anyway?
[07:21] <rob138> wastrel, why would i be able to ping it but not you?
[07:21] <zcat[1] > rc files are runtime configuration.. sometimes a script to run, sometimes a list of options..
[07:21] <graft> skpl_: do you have quicktime support in about:plugins?
[07:21] <Sivik> so i can run my wireless card without ndiswrapper
[07:21] <wastrel> rob138:  nope, prolly blocked for internet
[07:22] <skpl_> graft, no i do not
[07:22] <crimsun> Sivik: bcm43xx?
[07:22] <Sivik> yeap
[07:22] <crimsun> Sivik: we have the native driver.
[07:22] <graft> skpl_: um what's in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins?
[07:22] <Sivik> oh really?
[07:22] <crimsun> yes.
[07:22] <Sivik> but does it work with a kernel older than 2.6.16?
[07:22] <nickrud> the joys of the debian backport system, Sivik :)
[07:22] <TraceGreen> hello, in my /dev/, i don't find any audio, dsp files, i can not play sound, how shoud i do?
[07:22] <graft> skpl_: is there something like mplayerplug-in-blahblah.so?
[07:23] <Sivik> PM crimsun
[07:23] <crimsun> Sivik: yes, we rebase them for our kernel.
[07:23] <rob138> wastrel, that would be the network blocking it, or my desktop blocking it?
[07:23] <Sivik> ok, how do i use it?
[07:23] <crimsun> Sivik: please don't query me atm, I'm in a meeting.
[07:23] <Sivik> ok
[07:23] <wastrel> rob138:  the network.
[07:23] <skpl_> graft, yes, wmp
[07:23] <skpl_> and some others
[07:23] <graft> skpl_: qt?
[07:23] <rob138> can you ssh 147.222.241.192?
[07:23] <skpl_> yes
[07:24] <graft> skpl_: then you hsould be good... restart firefox
[07:24] <Sivik> so what do i need to get it to work crimsun
[07:24] <nickrud> Sivik, that's really a dapper question, try him on #ubuntu+1
[07:24] <pvd2006> graft, skpl_ I show quicktime support in my about:config and it still doesnt open mplayer for the file types.:-\ I built mine from source and copied the plugins straight to the directories
[07:24] <pvd2006> mplayer 3.2.1 I think.
[07:24] <pvd2006> mplayer plugin 3.2.1 I Mean
[07:25] <zyth> how much faster is a naitive install than a livecd?
[07:25] <skpl_> graft, there is nothing in about:plugins
[07:25] <graft> skpl_: um. you're running firefox from that same directory?
[07:25] <skpl_> graft, and it will not play any movies
[07:25] <vladuz976> when i connect my laptop running dapper to ethernet cable after boot up i don`t get a connection, why is that? can i somehow restart the dhcp daemon to do that?
[07:25] <skpl_> graft, no actually, im running it from /opt/firefox
[07:25] <skpl_> graft, should i install it to /usr/lib?
[07:26] <graft> skpl_: uh. well where are those plugins?
[07:26] <bananasontoast> I'm trying to install ieee80211 drivers, but I keep getting this message: http://bananasontoast.pastebin.com/678291 Does anyone know why?
[07:26] <rob138> wastrel, did you try that ip?
[07:26] <skpl_> graft, i imagine they are in/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins where they are absolutely useless
[07:26] <pvd2006> skpl_, locate firefox/plugins
[07:26] <graft> skpl_: well, either symlink them to /opt/firefox/plugins or copy 'em or something
[07:26] <graft> skpl_: and i'm guessing you didn't install firefox from the repository
[07:27] <skpl_> graft, to symlink i just go to the directory i want the links to appear in and type ln -s /location of plugins, right?
[07:27] <skpl_> graft, no, i wanted the latest version of firefox, 1.5.0.2
[07:27] <wastrel> rob138:  i connected to 147.222.241.192
[07:28] <pvd2006> skpl_, why did you say the plugins in usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins are useless?
[07:28] <skpl_> pvd2006, because i am running my firefox fronm /opt/firefox
[07:28] <pvd2006> AH ok
[07:28] <skpl_> pvd2006, should i reinstall to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox?
[07:28] <graft> skpl_: i'd just copy 'em
[07:28] <rob138> wastrel, well they are both on the same school network, just different buildings...
[07:28] <skpl_> graft, ok
[07:29] <graft> skpl_: but if you ever upgrade you're going to lose all that stuff
[07:29] <wastrel> rob138:  one ethernet, one wireless/
[07:29] <wastrel> ?
[07:29] <pvd2006> graft, have you gotten mplayer-plugin to work with firefox?
[07:29] <graft> pvd2006: yeah...
[07:29] <pvd2006> graft, did you use the source?
[07:29] <graft> nope
[07:30] <pvd2006> graft, just like apt-get install mplayer-plugin or something?
[07:30] <graft> pvd2006: yeh... mozilla-mplayer
[07:31] <vladuz976> anybody here know how i can restart the dhcp thing, so can get a connection i
[07:31] <rob138> wastrel, yes
[07:31] <pvd2006> I guess I will try that real quick, Does yours plays quicktime files without errors?
[07:31] <rob138> wastrel, the one you connected to was the wirless one
[07:31] <davecb> is there a way to show the desktop icons on XUBUNTU (xfce4)
[07:31] <davecb> ?
[07:31] <wass_> hi ...  I would like to know how to configure my wireless connection.  I loaded the driver...  in the connection properties the router is found but I need to put the wep key.  Once put it doesn't connect.. what's wrong ?
[07:31] <skpl_> graft, what do you mean?
[07:31] <graft> ?
[07:31] <skpl_> graft, by the way i got it to work, but mplayer seems to hang after buffering to 99%
[07:32] <graft> skpl_: hit play... :P
[07:32] <skpl_> i did
[07:32] <sethk> wass_, there are several possibilities
[07:32] <graft> hrm. do you have mplayer installed? :P
[07:32] <skpl_> yes
[07:32] <sethk> wass_, I would start by, for testing purposes only, turning off WEP.  Then see if it connects
[07:32] <wastrel> rob138:  it's probably a firewall restricting access to the wired network.  talk to campus IT or try to move ssh on wired systems to an open port.
[07:32] <davecb> is there a way to show the desktop icons on XUBUNTU (xfce4) ?
[07:33] <wass_> sethk: fine.. brb :P
[07:33] <sethk> wass_, if it does connect, you'll know you have a wep issue.  If it still doesn't connect, you have a more general issue
[07:33] <wass_> let's try
[07:34] <rob138> wastrel, so editing "/etc/ssh/ssd_config" on the wired computers to change the port would maybe solve this?
[07:34] <graft> skpl_: well you can copy the URL and play it with command-line mplayer
[07:34] <davecb> is there a way to show the desktop icons on xfce 4.2?
[07:35] <imbrandon> davecb: thats not part of the window manager, use something like idesk for icons on xfce
[07:35] <skpl_> graft, i do not want to. it is supposed to be embedded.
[07:35] <davecb> imbrandon,  tks
[07:35] <wastrel> rob138:  if you can find an open port into the wired network.
[07:36] <bimberi> vladuz976: 'sudo dhclient'
[07:36] <graft> skpl_: true. could try restarting firefox, might work... dunno
[07:37] <AngryElf> hey all, what's a command that would write the contents of a directory tree to a file?
[07:37] <graft> find . > filename
[07:37] <pvd2006> graft, I always seem to have a problem witht eh > operator
[07:38] <pvd2006> it always gives me permission denied for some reason even if I use sudo
[07:38] <bananasontoast> I'm trying to install ieee80211 drivers, but I keep getting this message: http://bananasontoast.pastebin.com/678291 Does anyone know why?
[07:38] <sethk> AngryElf, what graft said, if you want to show everything, files, links, directories, etc
[07:38] <sethk> bananasontoast, the files are for a different kernel version than the one you are running
[07:39] <Daskies> I feel like a moron, but what's the copy command again?
[07:39] <rob138> wastrel, how can i look for an open port?
[07:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Daskies: cp
[07:39] <wastrel> pvd2006:  that's because the sudo applies to the command, not the file write operation
[07:39] <sethk> Daskies, for future reference, try  "apropos copy"
[07:39] <pvd2006> wastrel, is there a way to get around  the permission denied.
[07:39] <wastrel> pvd2006:  you'd have to manually set the permissions on the destination file, or make sure you're in a directory that allows you to write
[07:39] <pvd2006> oh ok
[07:40] <wastrel> rob138:  trial and error, or ask the firewall admin..  or portscan but that could get you in trouble.
[07:41] <wastrel> rob138:  popular open ports might include 21, 22(ssh, so already tested),23, 25, 80, 110
[07:41] <Daskies> PuMpErNiCkLe, cp [file]  [destination]  ?
[07:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Daskies: exactly
[07:41] <Daskies> PuMpErNiCkLe: Why do I get: cp: omitting directory `/home/jordan/Desktop/clea
[07:42] <sethk> Daskies, because you didn't use -r
[07:42] <sethk> Daskies, it doesn't copy directories by default, only files
[07:42] <Daskies> sethk, so cp -r [file]  [destination] 
[07:42] <sethk> Daskies, so it is telling you that your copy list included this name, but the name was not used
[07:42] <blindx> In order to get sound in videos with VLC, I have to disable the audio track, then reenable it. This gets rather bothersome sometimes. Anyone know why this might be?
[07:42] <sethk> Daskies, yes, if that is what you want
[07:42] <grap3> I'm trying to make a driver and it needs the "KERNEL_SRC = "
[07:42] <sethk> Daskies, use  cp -av
[07:42] <grap3> where should I point it?
[07:42] <rob138> wastrel, could there be any reason why this doesn't work now, as it worked a week ago (same problem with VNC)
[07:43] <sethk> Daskies, the -v just makes it noisier; the -a tells it to copy everything about the files, permissions, mod times, etc.
[07:43] <Daskies> sethk, what's -av ?
[07:43] <Daskies> Ah
[07:43] <sethk> Daskies, again, if that's the behavior you want, but most often it's the best choice
[07:44] <grap3> I'm trying to make a driver and it needs the "KERNEL_SRC = "
[07:44] <grap3> where should I point it?
[07:44] <wastrel> rob138:  if you don't control the network there's no way of knowing.  changing your wifi drivers shouldn't have affected it unless you're supposed to be using a specific static ip with special access rules  and aren't anymore due to your local reconfig
[07:45] <doms> wer i can get more database connection of gambas programming
[07:45] <pschulz01> Where is the best place to put a new directory inti my PATH? Does ubotu know?
[07:45] <wastrel> pschulz01:  you want to add system-wide or just for your user?
[07:45] <gn0m3> lmfaoooooo
[07:45] <gn0m3> this is hilarious
[07:45] <pschulz01> I have programs in '~/bin' but this only get's added when I remotle login.
[07:46] <gn0m3> dwnload carlos mencia standup
[07:46] <rob138> wastrel, but i guess it is the network firewall if you cannot even ping the wired computer
[07:46] <pschulz01> wastrel: Just for me (user by user basis).
[07:47] <pschulz01> wasrel: I have to do '. ~/.bash_profile' each time I open a local xterm for it to pick up the path.
[07:47] <wastrel> pschulz01:  sounds like you're setting your path in one of those little .bash_login .bashrc .bash_profile things
[07:47] <sethk> pschulz01, put it in .bashrc
[07:47] <wastrel> yeah, either tell xterm to open a login shell or set path in .bashrc instead of profile
[07:47] <sethk> pschulz01, .bash_profile is only read for a login shell.  .bashrc is read for all shells
[07:47] <pschulz01> '~/bin' gets added by default if it exists, but only if you remotely login.
[07:47] <wastrel> so confusing.
[07:48] <sethk> pschulz01, right.  put it in .bashrc, because .bash_profile is only read for login shells.
[07:48] <wastrel> pschulz01:  that's because xterm is opening a non login shell
[07:48] <pschulz01> sethk: But if I put it in '.bashrc' (so the path is appeneded) won't it just keep appending (multiple times) when I run another shell?
[07:49] <pschulz01> wasrel: I haven't modified anything yet.. other than create '~/bin' and put some programs in it.
[07:49] <sethk> pschulz01, use zsh instead of bash.  It has a feature where that behavior does not occur
[07:49] <grap3> I'm trying to make a driver and it needs the "KERNEL_SRC = "
[07:49] <grap3> where should I point it?
[07:49] <sethk> pschulz01, but, if you want to stay with bash, put the entire path in, not just the part you are adding
[07:50] <DvUs> hello
[07:50] <sethk> pschulz01, you can set the path 1000 times, without a problem, as long as the path doesn't include $PATH
[07:50] <pschulz01> sethk: I'm keen to use whatever ubuntu defaults to..
[07:50] <wastrel> pschulz01:  +ls  arg for xterm will open it as a login shell
[07:50] <imbrandon> grap3: /usr/src/linux ( if you have it installed )
[07:50] <DvUs> any one know about apt-get
[07:50] <DvUs> and xwindows?
[07:50] <imbrandon> DvUs: what about it?
[07:50] <DvUs> My upgrade is really stuffed ;-)
[07:50] <sethk> pschulz01, well, unix is built around flexibility.  There are I think at least six shells that ubuntu is configured to allow as a login shell
[07:51] <wastrel> pschulz01:  er  -ls  heh  misread man page
[07:51] <sethk> pschulz01, do   cat /etc/shells, and you'll see the list
[07:51] <DvUs> I'm fairly new to Linux and I've beeb batteling with the upgrade a bit
[07:51] <grap3> grap3@ubuntu:~/Desktop/ITE8212/Linux/Driver/2.6.x$ sudo make
[07:51] <grap3> make -C /usr/src/linux SUBDIRS=/home/grap3/Desktop/ITE8212/Linux/Driver/2.6.x modules
[07:51] <grap3> make: *** /usr/src/linux: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[07:51] <grap3> make: *** [modules]  Error 2
[07:51] <DvUs> all was going well in xwindows when I hit update
[07:51] <sethk> pschulz01, zsh is in the repositories, has a bash compatibility mode, and is far, far, far better
[07:51] <Flannel> DvUs: upgrade to dapper?
[07:51] <DvUs> until I got some weird colours and stuff
[07:51] <sethk> grap3, it's looking for kernel source, installed in the default location.
[07:51] <DvUs> yeah
[07:51] <Flannel> DvUs: ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:51] <Flannel> (thats the dapper channel)
[07:52] <imbrandon> grap3: "sudo apt-get install linux-headers`uname -r`"
[07:52] <DvUs> ok thanks
[07:52] <sethk> grap3, you may not have the source.  If you do, ubuntu doesn't install it in the correct location
[07:52] <sethk> grap3, so what you have to do is make a link of /usr/src/whatever to the directory name ubuntu uses
[07:52] <grap3> imbrandon, I've done that already
[07:52] <pschulz01> sethk: Cheers...
[07:52] <GreySim> Is it possible to use the Live CD of the beta to just install without loading up the graphical bits?
[07:53] <Madpilot> GreySim, I don't think so. The install CD has a "server" option, though
[07:53] <imbrandon> then its /usr/src/linux`uname -r`
[07:53] <grap3> grap3@ubuntu:~/Desktop/ITE8212/Linux/Driver/2.6.x$ sudo make
[07:53] <grap3> make -C /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10 SUBDIRS=/home/grap3/Desktop/ITE8212/Linux/Driver/2.6.x modules
[07:53] <grap3> /bin/sh: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10/scripts/gcc-version.sh: No such file or directory
[07:53] <grap3> make[1] : gcc-3.4: Command not found
[07:53] <grap3> make[1] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10'
[07:53] <grap3>   WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10/Module.symvers
[07:53] <grap3>            is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.
[07:53] <Flannel> !paste
[07:53] <grap3> make[2] : scripts/Makefile.build: No such file or directory
[07:53] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[07:53] <grap3> make[2] : *** No rule to make target `scripts/Makefile.build'.  Stop.
[07:53] <Madpilot> grap3, pastebin next time!
[07:53] <grap3> make[1] : *** [_module_/home/grap3/Desktop/ITE8212/Linux/Driver/2.6.x]  Error 2
[07:53] <grap3> make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10'
[07:53] <grap3> make: *** [modules]  Error 2
[07:53] <imbrandon> PASTEBIN
[07:53] <imbrandon> PASTEBIN
[07:53] <grap3> Sorry
[07:53] <imbrandon> PASTEBIN
[07:53] <grap3> <- idiot
[07:53] <grap3> I don't know what a fucking pastebin is
[07:53] <imbrandon> !pastebin
[07:53] <GreySim> Thanks.
[07:53] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[07:55] <sethk> grap3, I told you what's wrong and how to fix it
[07:55] <grap3> I did it and it didn't work.
[07:55] <sethk> grap3, tell me what you did, exactly
[07:56] <Hobbsee> grap3: it's usually a good idea to read the /topic before you come in
[07:56] <sifl_> i know this isn't related to this forum, but does anyone know how to change the track, artist, etc. properties of audio files?
[07:56] <crimsun> sifl_: easytag, ex falso are two example progs
[07:57] <Madpilot> sifl_, easytag is nice
[07:57] <GreySim> sifl_: cowbell is another option.
[07:57] <sifl_> thx
[07:57] <grap3> I changed KERNEL_SRC = /usr/src/linux to KERNEL_SRC = /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10 and it still didn't work when I tired to make it
[07:57] <sethk> grap3, that's not what I told you to do
[07:57] <sethk> grap3, not even close
[07:57] <sethk> grap3, you have to make a link, in /usr/src, not change an environment variable
[07:57] <grap3> You said apt-get install linux-headers(uname -r)
[07:57] <sethk> grap3, no, that was someone else
[07:58] <doms> ahahah
[07:58] <doms> i'am screeweddddddddddddd
[07:58] <pvd2006> I should use checkinstall instead of make install right?
[07:58] <grap3> The only links I know how to make are <a href=
[07:58] <grap3> =P
[07:58] <imbrandon> man ln
[08:00] <sethk> grap3, look as ln -s
[08:00] <Beawolfe> Looking for some help trying to install programs......Very New(2 days) and tried what wiki said to do it it tells me no default action associated with that location
[08:00] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, which wiki page, and what are you trying to install?
[08:00] <grap3> what?
[08:00] <sethk> grap3, by the way, I'm not sure you can get away with installing only headers.  You may have to install the kernel source
[08:01] <sethk> grap3, what what?  do  man ln   to learn how to make a link
[08:01] <BTDog> grap3: ln -s <original> <alias>
[08:01] <sethk> grap3, it's simple.  the man page explains it better than we can.
[08:01] <Beawolfe> Madpilot...several proggies and I have installed Breezy if that helps any
[08:01] <grap3> How retarded of a distro is this that you can't simply hit make and have it work
[08:02] <sethk> grap3, well, most of the distros are retarded in that sense
[08:02] <theshibboleth> When I print pages from firefox, and the url and date, etc. are supposed to be in the margins, they don't get printed. Also, the text is abnormally large. How can I get the documents to print how I want them to?
[08:02] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, you used Synaptic?
[08:02] <sethk> grap3, the first thing I do, on any of the distros I use, is download the kernel from kernel.org and install it.
[08:02] <sethk> grap3, then all these problems disappear
[08:02] <sethk> grap3, slackware doesn't have the problem, but fedora does, mandrake does, suse, does, and of course debian and ubuntu
[08:03] <doms> wer i can find more sample source code on gambas
[08:03] <Beawolfe> Madpilot.....want to try and install par2....captive -static.........rar and unrar...and yes I used Synaptic...found the program and highlighted it but it wont do anything after that
[08:04] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, click on the box beside the package name, select "Mark For Installation" - when you're done marking stuff, hit the Apply button on the top toolbar in Synaptic
[08:05] <Beawolfe> it isnt in any list so I can mark it
[08:05] <KrisWood> Hi all, I was just wondering, does anyone know what the package name for Wine is?
[08:05] <crimsun> 'wine'
[08:05] <KrisWood> thanks
[08:06] <KrisWood> I coulda guest that hehe
[08:06] <kosnick> !tell kosnick grub
[08:06] <KrisWood> has anyone tried wine on breezy?
[08:06] <BTDog> apt-cache is a very useful too for this
[08:06] <BTDog> tool that is
[08:06] <KrisWood> apt-cache?
[08:06] <BTDog> run it
[08:06] <BTDog> apt-cache search <blah>
[08:06] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, sorry, I'm still not sure exactly what you're trying to install
[08:06] <BTDog> find packages
[08:07] <KrisWood> oooh cool
[08:07] <KrisWood> very useful
[08:07] <KrisWood> thanks! :D
[08:07] <kosnick> i have ubuntu and debian on the same machine. if i format the debian partition wiil grub work with ubuntu?
[08:07] <BTDog> yep :)
[08:07] <Beawolfe> trying to install several programs I have d/led to the desktop that ar needed to work with files from the newsgroups
[08:08] <luigi> hi
[08:08] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, look in Synaptic first - which apps do you need?
[08:09] <eggzeck> Why doesn't anyone ever show people Applications->Add Applications?
[08:09] <Madpilot> eggzeck, because you can get *everything* thru Synaptic
[08:09] <crimsun> um, we do.
[08:09] <eggzeck> yes Madpilot, but you can also show them that :P
[08:09] <BTDog> lol
[08:09] <KrisWood> later all thanks for the help!
[08:10] <crimsun> don't assume that just because you've not seen anyone suggest gnome-app-install that no one suggests it.
[08:11] <eggzeck> I've always seen people say 'use synaptic' (not that it's a problem).. was just curious
[08:11] <eggzeck> I use apt anyways
[08:12] <Beawolfe> par2.........rar and unrar......gdebi.......captive-static.....dvdrtools...and I dont find them on the list in Snaptic....I find them doing a search but then it doesnt have anywhere to mark for install...it just shows the proggie is all
[08:13] <BTDog> Beawolfe, try the apt tools, you should be able to install it. for example, run apt-get install par2
[08:13] <eggzeck> Beawolfe, sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[08:13] <BTDog> well, first to apt-cache search par2 and find the package name... etc. that's a typical flow to find what you want
[08:14] <eggzeck> Beawolfe, use 'apt-cache search <namehere>' for all the rest :)
[08:14] <BTDog> typical for me anyway
[08:14] <eggzeck> Beawolfe, you type that in terminal btw
[08:14] <bimberi> eggzeck: is that in Add Applications? ;)
[08:14] <llama32> what debian release does 5.10 correspond to?
[08:14] <eggzeck> bimberi, sarcasm is childish
[08:15] <eggzeck> llama32, breezy
[08:15] <bimberi> llama32: I'd guess sid at about August 2005
[08:15] <eggzeck> oh wait, Debian release
[08:16] <ConfidentiaL> where is a good place to get the packages xhydra, dsniff, etherape etc... ?
[08:16] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, do you have the Universe & Multiverse extra repos enabled?
[08:16] <bimberi> eggzeck: wasn't meant to offend - i did add a ;)
[08:16] <Madpilot> !info etherape
[08:16] <ubotu> etherape: (graphical network monitor modeled after etherman), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.9.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 113 kB, Installed size: 596 kB
[08:16] <eggzeck> Beawolfe, you might have to enable those that Madpilot suggested
[08:16] <Madpilot> ConfidentiaL, Universe repo, it looks like
[08:16] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell ConfidentiaL about universe
[08:16] <tomaj> I'm having a bit of trouble with my sound and I want to remove the module i compiled using the wiki guide for setting up Audigy cards. Is someone able to tell me how to do this please?
[08:16] <GreySim> !info gemrb
[08:17] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Beawolfe about universe
[08:17] <ConfidentiaL> Madpilot: thx :)
[08:17] <Beawolfe> where can I enable them at?
[08:17] <eggzeck> Beawolfe, in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:17] <BTDog> ubotu, tell BTDog about universe
[08:18] <bimberi> !tell Beawolfe about universe
[08:18] <bimberi> gah - must clean my glasses
[08:18] <BTDog> get contacts
[08:19] <tomaj> I'm having a bit of trouble with my sound and I want to remove the module i compiled using the wiki guide for setting up Audigy cards. Is someone able to tell me how to do this please?
[08:19] <bimberi> BTDog: :)
[08:21] <BTDog> is par used anywhere else other than download stuff off usenet?
[08:21] <pvd2006> I am installing mplayer by CVS cource using this guide http://johnvansickle.com/mplayer and I need to make sure I have all the plugins i need to support all video types including .movs. I have a list of the output of ./configure here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12827
[08:21] <milesirc> of my ubuntu desktop or a link to this information?
[08:22] <starkes> does anyone know how to unblock the ports needed for bittorrent in ubuntu?
[08:23] <BTDog> are they blocked by default?
[08:23] <BTDog> do you have a router?
[08:24] <Humility> I think you might want to hack your modem/routher for that Starkes. I never had port problem with ubuntu. the modems block the ports ... I think
[08:24] <starkes> i do have a router and they are not blocked
[08:24] <starkes> they work under my windows install on the same comp
[08:25] <mDot> just sitting here doing nothing.. slowly watching Firefox eat memory
[08:25] <Madpilot> starkes, firestarter has a setting to explicitly unblock the BT ports
[08:25] <mDot> this is crazy
[08:25] <Madpilot> mDot, Opera doesn't eat memory ;)
[08:25] <Humility> yep
[08:25] <sethk> mDot, that's a known problem
[08:25] <sethk> mDot, however I strong advise against using opera if you actually want to visit websites
[08:25] <starkes> i've messed with firestarter but nothing has seemed to change
[08:26] <mDot> sethk i agree, Firefox is infinately safer and extentons make it great, its just a memory hog
[08:26] <mDot> maybe flock deals better
[08:26] <sethk> mDot, indeed, it is that
[08:27] <rfm> starkes: got a fresh new ubuntu install here and no clue that any bt ports are blocked
[08:27] <BTDog> which BT client do you use under windows?
[08:27] <Madpilot> sethk, only broken websites don't work in Opera - and they frequently screw up in FF, too, in my experience..
[08:27] <starkes> azureus with identical settings
[08:28] <Madpilot> thankfully, really borked websites like that seem to be becoming rarer...
[08:28] <sethk> Madpilot, all the sites I visit display perfectly in FF.  One out of 10 display correctly in opera
[08:28] <BTDog> also using azureus in ubuntu?
[08:28] <rfm> starkes: so, if you have a windows box working behind the same router, don't you have the bt ports redirected there?
[08:28] <starkes> which is why this problem seems so strange. i know that it works under windows with seemingly identical settings, which is why i figure firestarter isnt doing what it should
[08:28] <starkes> no, i manually connect to my DSL line so i dont need to forward ports
[08:28] <starkes> so its not the router
[08:29] <starkes> since my router has always been a bitch about connecting for me and sharing the internet, i have to get a direct connection on whatever computer i use
[08:30] <rfm> starkes: well, you probably need a smarter router or need to learn how to tickle it right, but neither here nor there
[08:31] <quietFrank> hi all Im trying to get a Genius web cam working I have found out that it uses the sn9c103 driver but not really sure where to go from here ... new to linux ... can someone point me in the right direction
[08:31] <DvUs> is there a way to install mono on ubuntu?
[08:31] <steel> i cant figure it out
[08:31] <steel> plasma pong won't work either :(
[08:32] <starkes> it sends a PADT packet which tells the router to disconnect the DSL every time it tries to connect, i read up about it and it seems like its just something that my router does sometimes, regardless of firmware versions, settings, or anything like that
[08:32] <Error405> hello: I'm having issues connecting to my apache server on my ubuntu installation. I've forwarded the port but I'm not sure if there is a certain configuration of ubuntu I need to make to allow remote access?
[08:32] <mlalkaka> hi everyone
[08:33] <steel> hi
[08:33] <pvd2006> On mplayer to enable x264 wouldnt i just type /.configure --enable-x264
[08:33] <steel> try it
[08:34] <pvd2006> steel, I did but its still under optional disabled codecs
[08:34] <pvd2006> :-\
[08:34] <steel> hmm
[08:34] <pvd2006> I looked at the list of ./configure --hel;p
[08:34] <pvd2006> help
[08:35] <darqueMeye> hi linux newbie here... trying to install an .lexe program. anyone know how this is done through the terminal?
[08:35] <tomaj> I'm having a bit of trouble with my sound and I want to remove the module i compiled using the wiki guide for setting up Audigy cards. Is someone able to tell me how to do this please?
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> darqueMeye: What exactly are you doing?
[08:35] <tomaj> darqueMeye, did u mean .exe?
[08:35] <DvUs> using the drive bay?
[08:36] <pvd2006> ohh
[08:36] <pvd2006> its /.configure --enable-codec=x264
[08:36] <pvd2006> :
[08:36] <pvd2006> :)
[08:36] <pdash> it works
[08:36] <darqueMeye> i have a client that lets me connet to various severs. i downloaded the linux version and it gave me a .lexe file to install. not sure if this is even right...
[08:37] <sethk> darqueMeye, that's a new one to me
[08:37] <tonyyarusso> darqueMeye: Seems odd.  What's the program, and where'd you get it?
[08:37] <rfm> tomaj: well, poke around in /lib/modules, find the module you don't like, rm it, reboot.  Whether this will help or not I dunno
[08:37] <doms> hu kalibog ba ani uy pangit manjud grave
[08:37] <tomaj> rfm, thanks ill try doing that :)
[08:37] <doms> wala ko kasabot sa inyo tana uy mga paknuh ug ulo dri
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> !ph
[08:38] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[08:38] <darqueMeye> www.haxialsoftware.com
[08:38] <darqueMeye> kdx client for linux
[08:38] <rfm> tomaj: actually there may be another place sound modules hide
[08:38] <tomaj> rfm, ?
[08:39] <doms> pangit
[08:40] <rfm> tomaj: no, looks ok.  I am actually new to ubuntu but worked with debian a lot
[08:40] <tomaj> rfm, they're pretty much the same :)
[08:40] <rfm> tomaj: debian used to hide some sound modules in an alsa directory
[08:40] <tomaj> ah k
[08:41] <doms> pangit
[08:41] <rfm> tomaj: but looks like that is all gone now
[08:41] <tomaj> rfm, whats the command to see the active modules in terminal?
[08:41] <imbrandon> lsmod
[08:41] <tomaj> ty
[08:41] <darqueMeye> tonyyarusso: here is a direct link. scroll to the bottom.  http://www.haxial.com/products/kdx/
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> darqueMeye: Does look odd...
[08:42] <darqueMeye> yea i might be SOL i think
[08:43] <doms>  nganu mga pangit manmo
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> darqueMeye: Try e-mailing them and asking what the heck it is.
[08:43] <AngryElf> hey all is there a central script-sharing website?
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> !ph
[08:43] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[08:43] <darqueMeye> im new but ive never seen a file like that for linux
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> darqueMeye: Nor have I.
[08:44] <rfm> tomaj: note rmmod and insmod can unload and load modules.  not necessarly will make things work but look at the messages in /var/log and sometimes they help
[08:44] <doms> is their x-chat for windows
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> doms: Yes.
[08:44] <darqueMeye> alright. thanks for looking at it. ill just have to go back to windows (cough) to use it. :(
[08:44] <tomaj> rfm, kk thanks that helps a lot :) ill have a look around and see if i can solve it
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> doms: http://www.silverex.info/news/
[08:48] <blindx> nautilus keeps freezing :|... i force quit, it opens a new window and freezes again
[08:49] <doms> pangit
[08:49] <blindx> ?
[08:49] <blindx> is this linux im running.. or windows heh.
[08:49] <kosnick> hi all
[08:49] <blindx> hi kosnick
[08:49] <doms> pangit
[08:50] <blindx> what's pangit?
[08:51] <kosnick> how to unistall debian?
[08:52] <rfm> kiosnik: cat /dev/zero >/dev/hda
[08:52] <llama32> bindx: neither - it's gnome you're running... what do you expect for such a massive platform written mostly in C? [i know im gonna get flamed and i know i don't know much about gnome so i'll lose] 
[08:52] <rfm> kosnik: oh, I'm sorry, too snarky
[08:52] <kosnick> rfm : this will delete the dabian partition
[08:53] <kosnick> ?
[08:53] <llama32> eh, blindx*
[08:53] <rfm> kosnik: like, why do you want to uninstall debian?
[08:53] <rfm> kosnik: either put something else in the partition or just ignore it until you want the space back...
[08:54] <kosnick> rfm: got two GNU/linux partitions , one with debian and one with ubuntu. I don't need debian any more
[08:54] <llama32> blindx: use Rox... way better file manager [and it never misbehaves] 
[08:54] <kosnick> rfm : actually the q is , if i format the debian partition will grub (ubuntu grub i mean) find what has happened?
[08:54] <rfm> kosnik: right.  so do you need the space back, or do you just want to boot straight into ubunto
[08:55] <kosnick> rfm : both space and straight up booting
[08:55] <rfm> kosnik: the booting is easier.  find which partition has /boot/grub/menu.lst in it and edit it to your liking
[08:56] <Beawolfe> Madpilot....I was only able to find and install 2 programs after that.....par2 and unrar............still need to get gdebi installed so I can install the rest
[08:56] <kosnick> rfm : as far as i have seen both debian and ubuntu have a /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:56] <rfm> if the /boot/grub/ directory is in the debian paritition then things get complicate
[08:56] <GTroy> hey guys, how do you enable java in firefox 1.5.0.2?
[08:57] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, if you've got .deb files, you can install them thru the terminal
[08:57] <GTroy> I have jre 1.5 installed
[08:57] <rfm> GTroy: the ubuntu wiki has the majik
[08:57] <GTroy> hmmm
[08:57] <kosnick> rfm : where is grub installed? in boot-sector or MBR?
[08:57] <Beawolfe> I am very new so can you tell me how to do that..I would greatly appreciate that!
[08:58] <Madpilot> GTroy, on the wiki page w/ the Java info, look right at the end of the Java section - there's a bit about choosing which version of Java you're using
[08:58] <kosnick> rfm: i installed debian after ubuntu. So what has happened? Is debian's grub over ubuntu's grub in MBR or is it each one on boot-sector of its partition?
[08:58] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, open the terminal, cd to the directory you put the .deb files in, then "sudo dpkg -i nameoffile.deb"
[08:59] <rfm> kosnik: ah, the key is the mbr version "knows" which partition to look at for menu.lst.  I always have to read the grub docs at this point but there should be a way to tell grub to look at the ubuntu partition
[09:00] <Beawolfe> Madpilot...what if I put them on the desktop?
[09:00] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, that's a directory too - Desktop
[09:00] <pvd2006> can someone bring up ubotu to bring up info about Checkinstall
[09:00] <steel> how do i search in nautilus?
[09:00] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, in the terminal: "cd /Desktop"
[09:00] <Madpilot> !checkinstall
[09:00] <ubotu> [checkinstall]  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[09:00] <kosnick> rfm : i have checked a little on grub doc and in the grub shell there is some root command and setup command
[09:01] <pvd2006> ah ok, thanks
[09:01] <bliss1_> hi
[09:01] <tonyyarusso> CHKDSK is done - bad to the Live CD to attempt partitioning!
[09:02] <rfm> kosnick: sounds right.  just try.  Burn a grub boot cd first so you have a way out if you screw things up
[09:02] <pvd2006> if there was only a shortcut to see if make is going to compile or not:-\
[09:02] <kosnick> rfm : what is a grub boot cd?
[09:02] <kosnick> ?
[09:02] <kosnick> to brign things back
[09:02] <rfm> kosnick: grub docs do explain this
[09:02] <doms> pangit
[09:02] <pvd2006> its fun waiting 10 minutes each time to get an other errror:)
[09:03] <kosnick> rfm : ok thx rfm!
[09:03] <doms> pangit ka
[09:03] <rfm> kosnick: the grub docs are kind of terse but keep at it and it does make sense
[09:03] <chiche> hot news!!! http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=11547
[09:04] <bliss1_> just downloaded a exe file called  iasl how you i put this into my path so it becomes ./iasl ?
[09:04] <chiche> is it real?
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> chiche: That's not hot news.  I saw that at least a week ago.
[09:05] <chiche> lol
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> Sad news is more like it.
[09:05] <eggzeck> ciche: they probably do a lot of dirt.... But that is offtopic :P
[09:05] <steel> is there a way to search in the file browser?
[09:05] <pvd2006> ah, Im glad I switched to linux
[09:06] <chiche> linux?
[09:06] <pvd2006> yeah ubuntu
[09:06] <chiche> oww
[09:06] <eggzeck> ubuntu IS linux
[09:06] <eggzeck> heh
[09:06] <doms> pangit
[09:06] <pvd2006> yep
[09:07] <chiche> must be
[09:07] <chiche> (in theory)
[09:08] <Beawolfe> Madpilot...can you explain to me what sudo means or is in typing in the terminal?
[09:08] <steel> oh i can!
[09:08] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, sudo is how you get admin privs. in terminal, basically
[09:08] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Beawolfe about sudo
[09:08] <eggzeck> Beawolfe, 'sudo' means running a command as root
[09:08] <BTDog> sudo is a command... when you run sudo <blah> it means run <blah> as superuser
[09:08] <eggzeck> perhaps you should type: 'man sudo' in terminal Beawolfe
[09:09] <steel> how do i exit a manual in the term
[09:09] <eggzeck> 'q'
[09:10] <steel> ah
[09:10] <steel> thank you
[09:10] <eggzeck> yw
[09:11] <tapu> hi
[09:11] <tapu> i m a new user of ubuntu...
[09:11] <llama32> hehehe... i see why linux is confusing for some newbies... three answers to the same question use three different terms for root
[09:11] <steel> hey ditto
[09:11] <tapu> can any one help me
[09:11] <tapu> ? rgd printer installation
[09:11] <tapu> ?
[09:15] <bliss1_> just downloaded a exe file called  iasl how you i put this into my path so it becomes ./iasl ?
[09:15] <PwcrLinux> !goodmorning
[09:16] <steel> hah
[09:16] <Beawolfe> Madpilot..eggzeck.......something is not right because I do that and nothing happens
[09:16] <Madpilot> bliss1_, exe files are windows files, not Linux ones..
[09:16] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, sorry, do what?
[09:16] <chiche> .com files?
[09:16] <bliss1_> Madpilot: just a sec
[09:17] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell tapu about printers
[09:17] <chiche> what printers?
[09:17] <munzir_> Hi, I manually changed /etc/hosts and now sudo anything gives me "sudo: unable to lookup ossc via gethostbyname()" how should this be fixed?
[09:17] <Beawolfe> cd to desktop then sudo dpkg -i filename
[09:17] <chiche> munzir_, the wrong config
[09:18] <munzir_> chiche: yes I know but how can I fix it?
[09:18] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, make sure it's Desktop - case matters inthe command line
[09:18] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Beawolfe about cli
[09:18] <pax> munzir_: do the same to /etc/hostname
[09:19] <chiche> munzir_, hehehe
[09:19] <pax> munzir_: change the hostname there too.
[09:19] <chiche> munzir_, I forgot it
[09:19] <eggzeck> Beawolfe, better yet, use 'cd ~/Desktop'
[09:19] <munzir_> pax: yes you are right I should do this but  the problem now is I can't use sudo to change that file
[09:20] <bliss1_> Madpilot: its a linux files it has a star shaped icon
[09:20] <chiche> lol
[09:20] <mlalkaka> if my bootloader gets cleared from the master boot record, how can i reinstall it? i'm using grub
[09:20] <BTDog> munzir_, can you become superuser with su?
[09:20] <pax> munzir_: exit that shell and reopen it.
[09:20] <frootstripe> i forgot i was on ubuntu and shouldn't set root - i.e. i set root - is this a prob?
[09:21] <GueVaRa> hello~~
[09:21] <GueVaRa> first time user need some help..
[09:21] <chiche> hi
[09:21] <Madpilot> !tell frootstripe about root
[09:21] <BTDog> !tell BTDog about root
[09:21] <Madpilot> frootstripe, there's some unsetting-root info in the URL the bot just sent you
[09:22] <GueVaRa> !tell frootstripe about root
[09:22] <chiche> is there a dpkg-like bot in the room?
[09:22] <munzir_> BTDog: how? I need to use sudo su too , no?
[09:22] <bliss1_> Madpilot : i must run command  ./iasl -tc dsdt.dsl
[09:22] <munzir_> pax: I rebooted my pc to no avail
[09:22] <Madpilot> munzir_, rescue console is your friend, it sounds like...
[09:22] <chiche> !tell me about dpkg
[09:22] <pax> munzir_: can you show me your hosts in a pastebin?
[09:23] <Madpilot> bliss1_, what're you trying to install?
[09:23] <GueVaRa> just install 5.10....after reboot....come to command prompt....Gnome UI didnt come up...what should i do??
[09:23] <Beawolfe> Madpilot.....that didnt work either
[09:23] <eggzeck> munzir_, you do not do sudo su
[09:23] <BTDog> so by default you can't do su, but you can do sudo su...
[09:23] <PwcrLinux> GueVaRa: What is your system ram?
[09:23] <BTDog> why is sudo su a more secure way?
[09:23] <GueVaRa> 256mb..
[09:24] <Madpilot> BTDog, because sudo is always logged - su isn't, I understand
[09:24] <IceTox> Is there any way to check which type of RAM I have in my computer by command in terminal?
[09:24] <pax> munzir_: it's not big deal, you can always change it by using the install or live CD, let's see your hosts file first.
[09:24] <BTDog> ahh
[09:24] <GueVaRa> PwcrLinux: 256mb
[09:24] <AnAnt> is there something like mountloop in Ubuntu ?
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[09:24] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, do "cd ~/Desktop", then "ls -la" and tell me if your .deb files are listed in the "ls -la" results
[09:25] <PwcrLinux> GueVaRa: Hmm, try xstart
[09:25] <intelikey> AnAnt mount -o loop     ?
[09:25] <AnAnt> intelikey: that should be done by superuser
[09:25] <linav> where can i get decoders for totem player
[09:25] <GueVaRa> PwcrLinux: old laptop....only has 800mb for core installtion....pb??
[09:25] <munzir_> pax: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12829
[09:25] <AnAnt> intelikey: mountloop was done by normal users
[09:25] <bliss1_> Madpilot: its here http://pastebin.ca/50886
[09:25] <Madpilot> !tell linav about codecs
[09:26] <intelikey> pmount then
[09:26] <munzir_> pax: i didn't typed those ip6 lines
[09:26] <Beawolfe> This really is getting frustrating...it says there is no default action for that location
[09:26] <linav> madpilot: where can i get codecs
[09:26] <AnAnt> intelikey: hmm, thx
[09:26] <PwcrLinux> GueVaRa: Oh! you don't have enuff the HD space, the ubuntu need to install about 1.5 GB.. you can get new HD and install them..
[09:26] <munzir_> pax: i tried livecd but it's a bit complicated with my lvm system
[09:27] <intelikey> AnAnt you know that mount could be aliased in /etc/sudoers   right ?
[09:27] <pax> munzir_: delete that second line
[09:27] <joachim_> okey, so i have apt-get'ed 'csh' and i'm wondering, where the hell didi that go? so what do i do about #!/bin/csh since that doesn't exist?
[09:27] <Madpilot> linav, the bot will have sent you a pm
[09:28] <luke_> anyone know where I can find a reasonably big wordlist?
[09:28] <AnAnt> intelikey: yeah, but then any user can mount anything (ie. not just loop files)
[09:28] <intelikey> luke on your system.
[09:28] <Madpilot> bliss1_, try asking in that ubuntuforums thread if the instructions aren't clear
[09:28] <GueVaRa> PwcrLinux: thx....need to resize partitions again...lol
[09:29] <linav> madpilot: i didnt got any
[09:29] <Madpilot> !+codecs
[09:29] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[09:29] <luke_> intelikey, oh really? im pretty noob, is it a dictionary file or something?
[09:29] <Madpilot> linav, ^^^
[09:29] <intelikey> AnAnt no you can specify what the full command is.   i.e.   all : nopasswd:mount -o loop *.iso *
[09:29] <joachim_> anyone?
[09:29] <Madpilot> linav, ignore that one, actually. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats instead
[09:30] <intelikey> luke_ yes  passwd checks against it.
[09:30] <AnAnt> ic
[09:30] <luke_> intelikey, what's it called please?
[09:30] <bliss1_> Madpilot i asking how to make iasl to .\iasl ?
[09:31] <PwcrLinux> GueVaRa: : I recommend partitation up to 10 GB or more whenever you want it's more stable..
[09:31] <Madpilot> bliss1_, looks like it - but go thru the ubuntuforums thread again
[09:31] <pig> hi
[09:32] <Das|Sleeping> I have a thumbnail, but it says I'm not the owner? Is there a way to reformat it so I'm set as the owner?
[09:32] <Das|Sleeping> *the owner.
[09:32] <luke_> when I use 'find' how can I make errors >/dev/null?
[09:32] <ailean> Das|Sleeping, edit the permissions as root
[09:32] <intelikey>  2>/dev/null
[09:32] <pig> anyone know italian irc for ubuntu?
[09:32] <luke_> ty
[09:32] <Beawolfe> Madpilot....none of those commands work...keeps telling me the is no default action associated with that location
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> !it
[09:32] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:33] <intelikey> luke_ give me a sec on the name....
[09:33] <bliss1_> Mudpilot: ok how do i  file a into file .\a ?
[09:33] <Das|Sleeping> ailean, sudo chmod what?
[09:33] <luke_> intelikey, sure mate
[09:33] <Das|Sleeping> !chmod
[09:33] <ubotu> from memory, chmod is a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.
[09:33] <jond3rd> !ph
[09:33] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[09:33] <Madpilot> bliss1_, I don't know - but whoever wrote that forum thread probably does
[09:33] <ailean> Das|Sleeping, there's your answer :)
[09:33] <Das|Sleeping> !man chmod
[09:33] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Das|Sleeping
[09:33] <ailean> oh
[09:33] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: In your terminal.
[09:34] <Das|Sleeping> Yes, but what is 777?
[09:34] <BTDog> find . >& /dev/null
[09:34] <theshibboleth> how do I start up the cups server--I shut it down after I made some changes to the config file
[09:34] <Das|Sleeping> Just chmod 777
[09:34] <BTDog> right?
[09:34] <ailean> Das|Sleeping, I usually open nautilus temporarily as root :D
[09:34] <ailean> bad linux practise i suppose . . .
[09:34] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, you downloaded these .deb to you Desktop, correct?
[09:34] <Das|Sleeping> ailean, How do you do that?
[09:34] <ailean> sudo nautilus
[09:34] <ailean> but don't use it like that longer than you have to
[09:35] <IceTox> Madpilot, do you know of any way I can find out which kind of SDRam my ubuntu is running at? (without looking inside the cabinet)
[09:35] <tonyyarusso> ailean: Yeah, generally a bad idea.
[09:35] <Beawolfe> yes that is correct
[09:35] <ailean> I know, but I'm very new. tonyyarusso
[09:35] <Das|Sleeping> tonyyarusso, What's chmod 777?
[09:35] <Madpilot> IceTox, no. try "sudo lshw", though?
[09:35] <ailean> why is it so bad though tonyyarusso?
[09:35] <intelikey> luke_   apt-get search wordlist
[09:35] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: Set permissions for read, write, and execute for everybody.
[09:35] <PwcrLinux> IceTox: you can look up at www.18004memory.com and enter your system info they will find which SDRAM models..
[09:36] <ailean> i'm only saying that because I've been told it's bad
[09:36] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, you opened a terminal (applications->accessories->terminal) the type "cd ~/Desktop" (without the quotes) and "ls -la"
[09:36] <Das|Sleeping> tonyyarusso, Yes, but what's the full command? sudo [what's the device name]  777 ?
[09:36] <tonyyarusso> ailean: Because you end up with files owned by root all over the place.
[09:36] <intelikey> Das|Sleeping four sevens ?
[09:36] <ailean> tonyyarusso, but if i only do it to set permissions it's okay?
[09:36] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: sudo chmod 777 /path/to/the/file/you/need/to/fix
[09:36] <Das|Sleeping> tonyyarusso, I mean sudo chmod [device]  777 ?
[09:36] <luke_> intelikey, awesome, thats the one. thanks again
[09:36] <Das|Sleeping> I see
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> ailean: Maybe.  That's still tricky.
[09:37] <Das|Sleeping> tonyyarusso, What's the path to a removable device?
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> ailean: In short, you can do it, but if something gets screwy, don't be surprised.
[09:37] <ailean> k :D
[09:37] <theshibboleth> how do I start cups server?
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> ailean: A recursive chown on your home directory will usually fix it though.
[09:37] <ailean> tonyyarusso, i'll try to learn the commands then
[09:37] <Beawolfe> Madpilot, That is what comes up .....dale@ubuntu:~$ cd ~/desktop ls - la
[09:37] <Beawolfe> bash: cd: /home/dale/desktop: No such file or directory
[09:37] <Beawolfe> dale@ubuntu:~$
[09:37] <freeride> hy everyone
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: It would need to be mounted.
[09:37] <freeride> i need help
[09:37] <Das|Sleeping> tonyyarusso, It is
[09:38] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: /media/something usually.
[09:38] <BTDog> u use ruby?
[09:38] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, "ls -la" - exactly, no extra spaces or anything, except removing the quotes
[09:38] <freeride> i have an ac97 sound onboard and it does'n work
[09:38] <freeride> i have ubuntu & win xp instaled
[09:38] <ailean> Das|Sleeping, mine is at /media/usbdisk
[09:38] <freeride> in win xp it works but in ubuntu doesn't
[09:39] <freeride> can someone help me pls?
[09:39] <luke_> intelikey, sorry to be a pain, but after installing it how do I access it?
[09:39] <Beawolfe> Madpilot...keeps comming up with the same thing
[09:40] <Das|Sleeping> sudo chmod 777 /media/usbdisk
[09:40] <Das|Sleeping> tonyyarusso, that does nothing
[09:41] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, what exact error?
[09:41] <intelikey> ok guys.   i have the official report now.    it can be done over dialup in two days.     i installed hoary server-install  then set the repos  did dist-upgrade streight into dapper.    yes it borked a few things.   but after making a initramfs.img  and  configuring things  all seems to be working well.   only exception is X still not set to let users start it.   that i'll fix in a bit.
[09:41] <Das|Sleeping> It doesn't produce an error, but nothing happens
[09:41] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: Try this instead: 'sudo chmod -R 777 /media/usbdisk/*'
[09:41] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: In Linux, when nothing happens, that's a good thing.
[09:41] <ailean> Das|Sleeping, u sure it doesn't just seem that nothing happens?
[09:41] <IceTox> thanks PwcrLinux, but that website didn't support my Operating system :-) And Madpilot, lshw did work, but it only showed me how much memory, not which type it was :-)
[09:41] <freeride> can somenone help me winth my ac97 audio card  pls
[09:41] <doms> why
[09:41] <doms> yeas
[09:41] <ailean> Das|Sleeping, that command doesn't produce an output when it's done correctly
[09:42] <Das|Sleeping> Yes, but when I right click and find properties nothing has changed
[09:42] <doms> you can get a butter then butter you computer
[09:42] <Beawolfe> Madpilot "There is No default action associated with that location"
[09:42] <intelikey> luke_   dpkg -L <package>   for a list of the files it installed....  and  "man man "   manual pages are your friend.
[09:42] <PwcrLinux> IceTox: ur welcome :)
[09:42] <freeride> it doesn't work on ubuntu but on winxp does
[09:42] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, for the ls command or the cd one?
[09:42] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: Try my second one there.
[09:43] <Beawolfe> for all of them!!!
[09:43] <Das|Sleeping> tonyyarusso, sudo chmod -R 777 /media/usbdisk/* does nothing
[09:43] <ailean> sorry freeride we do see your messages, but I'm not able to help on that one
[09:43] <Das|Sleeping> No changes
[09:43] <bjourne> Im trying to upgrade to dapper, but apt-get always complain about "somepackage: Depends in advance: x-commom (>= 1.0)" but there is no x-common package availible
[09:43] <bjourne> what to do?
[09:43] <ailean> freeride, ask again in half an hour and maybe someone who can help will be on
[09:43] <steel> can i make the backwards and forwards buttons (for browsing) on my mouse work?
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: Show me the output of 'ls -l /media/usbdisk/fileinquestion'
[09:43] <Madpilot> !tell steel about mouse
[09:43] <freeride> thx ailean i'l try later
[09:43] <ailean> freeride, np
[09:44] <Das|Sleeping> tonyyarusso, I'm not just trying to edit one file, but the whole device
[09:44] <steel> heh your command didnt work sadly
[09:44] <steel> oh
[09:44] <pvd2006> command to delete all files and subdirectories starting from a certain directory?
[09:44] <steel> it did
[09:44] <AnAnt> should Ubuntu be installed on a free partition ? what if I do have another distro installed & I want to install Ubuntu on it ?
[09:44] <doms> just get a butter then but your PC
[09:45] <AnAnt> I cannot remove some directories (like /home & /opt)
[09:45] <ailean> AnAnt, it should have its own partition yes, otherwise it will overwrite the other distro
[09:45] <doms> rm -rf
[09:45] <doms> sudo -s
[09:45] <doms> type pwassword
[09:45] <doms> then
[09:45] <doms> rm -rf
[09:45] <doms> you can erase
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: Oh.
[09:45] <Das|Sleeping> bash: oh: command not found
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: You should mount it differently then.  (Although it's odd it didn't automatically.)
[09:45] <Das|Sleeping> :r
[09:45] <pvd2006> rm -rf will that work for removing sub dirs?
[09:46] <luke_> when is the new ubuntu coming out? will i be able to just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to get it?
[09:46] <AnAnt> ailean: do u mean by overwrite that it will delete everything on that partition  OR that it will overwrite using files that it will install ?
[09:46] <Das|Sleeping> tonyyarusso, How should I mount it?
[09:46] <Madpilot> pvd2006, yes
[09:46] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: I'm pondering.
[09:46] <Das|Sleeping> tonyyarusso, Not to mention that when I put the device in it automatically mounts
[09:46] <ailean> AnAnt, depends what's there beforehand. a previous version of Ubuntu, it will upgrade. another distro, you'll have to delete it before starting
[09:46] <Das|Sleeping> Ok
[09:47] <doms> what do you like to mount
[09:47] <AnAnt> ic
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> Das|Sleeping: Actually, it's four in the morning here, so I'm a little bit less than coherent, so if you don't mind I'm going to recommend reading 'man mount' for instructions on that rather than coming up with something that's wrong.  How's that sound?
[09:48] <PwcrLinux> Das|Sleeping: on desktop right click on your USB icon and unmount it and then do in the terminal box to mount it for chmod settings..
[09:48] <ailean> AnAnt, diff distros are only very loosely related. they all work in their own ways, so they can't be mixed. you either run one or the other, but that doesn't mean to say you can't have 20 diff distros on the one machine
[09:48] <doms> halow just type ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:48] <Beawolfe> Madpilot...I finally got a list up in the teminal and it shows all of the .deb files I am trying to install
[09:48] <Das|Sleeping> tonyyarusso, Ok
[09:48] <doms> then rm -rf
[09:48] <Das|Sleeping> PwcrLinux, It wont let me unmount, It can't eject
[09:48] <AnAnt> ailean: well, the problem is that I don't want to remove /home & /opt
[09:49] <PwcrLinux> Das|Sleeping: Hmm oh well..
[09:49] <ailean> AnAnt, that's the reason that a lot of people create a /home partition to allow them to have the same files available right across diff distros
[09:49] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, good - now "sudo dpkg -i debname.deb" - obviously put one of the actual filenames in there
[09:49] <AnAnt> ailean: I dont care about the rest
[09:49] <AnAnt> ic
[09:49] <Das|Sleeping> !man mount
[09:49] <ubotu> Das|Sleeping: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:49] <Madpilot> Das|Sleeping, the bot doesn't have man pages - terminal for that
[09:50] <CompuChip> Hmmz, I'm trying to install courier-imap but it keeps giving Authentication FAILED without useful info :(
[09:50] <luke_> I just downloaded a program and compiled it using the source (woot go me) anyway, where do I put the folder now. is there anything else I need to do to install it completely?
[09:51] <Das|Sleeping> Madpilot, heh thanks
[09:52] <bjourne> luke_: make install
[09:52] <Beawolfe> Madpilot it says it "dale@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ ls
[09:52] <Beawolfe> captive-static-1.1.7.tar.gz  par2_0.4-2build1_i386.deb
[09:52] <Beawolfe> dvdrtools_0.2.1-1_i386.deb   rar_3.30-2_i386.deb
[09:52] <Beawolfe> gdebi_0.1.5_all.deb          unrar-free_0.0.1-2_i386.deb
[09:52] <Beawolfe> dale@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i /home/dale/Desktop/dvdrtools_0.2.1-1_i386.de b
[09:52] <Beawolfe> Password:
[09:52] <Beawolfe> Sorry, try again.
[09:52] <Beawolfe> Password:
[09:52] <Beawolfe> Selecting previously deselected package dvdrtools.
[09:52] <Beawolfe> (Reading database ... 61397 files and directories currently installed.)
[09:52] <Beawolfe> Unpacking dvdrtools (from .../dvdrtools_0.2.1-1_i386.deb) ...
[09:52] <Beawolfe> Setting up dvdrtools (0.2.1-1) ...
[09:52] <Beawolfe> "
[09:52] <CompuChip> how much are you going to paste?
[09:52] <ailean> Beawolfe, in pastebin
[09:53] <luke_> bjourne: yeah i did all that. is there anything else I should do with it?
[09:53] <Madpilot> looks like he figured out how to get a .deb installed, anyway... :P
[09:54] <bjourne> luke_: if make install succeds, then you have installed the program. congratulations
[09:54] <luke_> bjourne, can I remove the folder then?
[09:55] <bob_4_a_day> luke_ dont.
[09:55] <luke_> bob_4_a_day, how come?
[09:55] <bjourne> luke_: yes
[09:55] <bob_4_a_day> luke_ the way you remove things like that is   make uninstall in that folder.
[09:56] <luke_> ah ic, ill just stick it in an arhive somewhere then. thanks
[09:56] <bob_4_a_day> luke_   do a  make clean   then  compress the folder and save it.  it's your removal tool.
[09:56] <Nameeater_> I some how installed the kernel-restricted package and it has messed up my hand installed nvidia driver, I cant remove the package with apt as it wants to uninstall the kernel, how can I get rid of the ubuntu released driver so I can make my hand install one work, X complains of a mismatch with the kernel driver being the older ubuntu one, and the X driver being the newer one
[09:56] <invite> hi
[09:56] <hyphenated> bob_4_a_day: or use checkinstall
[09:56] <invite> how can i install amsn in ubuntu?
[09:57] <luke_> bob_4_a_day, so do I execute the "rm -f ..." command the make clean gave to me then archive yeah?
[09:57] <GueVaRa> PwcrLinux: thx....need to resize partitions again...lol
[09:57] <luke_> bob_4_a_day, my bad, it all ready did
[09:57] <hyphenated> personally, I'd just configure it to install somewhere that I want (with --prefix) and have an easy to remove directory
[09:57] <ailean> does anyone run compiz?
[09:57] <bob_4_a_day> hyphenated yeah....   i'm an old schooler i guess..
[09:58] <hyphenated> old school habits ruined my pristine system. I learned new tricks ;-)
[09:59] <CompuChip> I just reinstalled courier-imap clean and "courierauthtest mylogin mypassword" fails
[09:59] <bob_4_a_day> hyphenated that special dir wont have all the files tho.
[09:59] <cerberus> does anyone know how to add modem lights to a gnome panel? It doesn't show up when I right click and select 'Add to Panel...'
[09:59] <hyphenated> bob_4_a_day: if it doesn't, the ./configure program is broken
[09:59] <PwcrLinux> GueVaRa: Yea, hopefully it's stable
[10:00] <CompuChip> and when I use the /etc/courier/userdb file and insert |imappw=testie then also "courierauthtest mylogin testie" fails
[10:00] <ailean> is it possible to use a modem with ubuntu? Surely the number of updates makes that impossible
[10:00] <CompuChip> anyone has an idea what I'm doing wrong?
[10:00] <cerberus> of course you can use a modem, that's how I'm connected at the moment
[10:01] <GueVaRa> PwcrLinux: should i set 1.5GB for my "/" directory??? keep getting not enf space for installation??! :?
[10:01] <ailean> cerberus, but how do you update
[10:01] <Nameeater_> how can I see what files a package installed?
[10:01] <cerberus> either wait untill the next release comes out on CD, or very be very selective in the packages I choose to update. Just because you can update doesn't mean you have to.
[10:02] <ailean> suppose :)
[10:02] <CompuChip> Hi
[10:02] <bob_4_a_day> GueVaRa system default install ?   2g
[10:02] <CompuChip> Can you hear me now? :)
[10:02] <cerberus> not to say I wouldn't update more often if I could
[10:02] <River> Hi .. can anyone point me in the right direction to find out how to open / install the debian skype ?
[10:03] <GueVaRa> bob_4_a_day: thx :) sry for stupid Q....1st timer..
[10:03] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell River about skype
[10:03] <ailean> River, add deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free to your repos
[10:03] <ailean> then install using synaptic
[10:04] <hyphenated> ailean: have they fixed the dependencies problem?
[10:05] <ailean> hyphenated, well it's working on my system, but I'm using dapper
[10:05] <bob_4_a_day> GueVaRa not a problem...  the default install is about 1.8 g  but you have to have a little slack  so  2g is about minimum   also you may want to allow a little more if possable for testing new apps.   the repos have about 18k packages now.
[10:05] <steel> Madpilot, could you !tell me about the mouse again?
[10:05] <hintswen> can someone tell me the default root username/password for 5.1?
[10:05] <luke_> anyone know how I can make XMMS the default .MP3 player in Gnome (Breezy)?
[10:05] <ailean> hyphenated, I installed it only yesterday
[10:05] <PwcrLinux> GueVaRa: try 5 GB..
[10:05] <Madpilot> steel, anyone can talk to the bot - it's not choosy ;) Just do !mouse or !tell me about mouse
[10:05] <bob_4_a_day> !dstats dapper
[10:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu Distro Stats on dapper... 18635 packages, 1766 maintainers, 36579 MB installed size, 11339 MB compressed size.
[10:06] <bjourne> hintswen: there is no default, the password is the same as your user password
[10:06] <luke_> !dstats dapper
[10:06] <steel> oh ok
[10:06] <hyphenated> ailean: ok. it had compatibility issues a while back
[10:06] <steel> !tell me about the mouse
[10:06] <hintswen> and username is root?
[10:06] <CompuChip_> Hi all
[10:06] <steel> !tell me about the mouse buttons
[10:06] <Madpilot> hintswen, are you on the LiveCD?
[10:06] <Madpilot> !tell steel about mouse
[10:06] <bjourne> hintswen: you were supposed to chose a username when you installed
[10:06] <hintswen> installed
[10:06] <steel> oh
[10:06] <steel> no the
[10:06] <hintswen> oh, so my username/password is the root account?
[10:07] <Madpilot> hintswen, then username & pw are whatever you picked during install
[10:07] <bob_4_a_day> is ubotu down ?
[10:07] <ubuntu> sorry
[10:07] <Madpilot> !tell hintswen about sudo
[10:07] <Madpilot> hintswen, pretty much, yes
[10:07] <hintswen> ok and how do i shutdown?
[10:08] <Madpilot> hintswen, System->Log Out
[10:08] <bob_4_a_day> hintswen  sudo init 0
[10:08] <hintswen> thank you
[10:08] <liouba> hello
[10:08] <tapu> i hve installed printer
[10:09] <Sir_X> Hi
[10:09] <tapu> thnkz to ubutu
[10:09] <tapu> well can any one tell me how to run DVD in ubuntu hoary?
[10:09] <hintswen> is there some way i can use the hard drive on my ubuntu from a different PC to store files?(ie. from this windows machine)
[10:09] <GueVaRa> any good place to learn how to install pkg or load programs using commands?
[10:09] <patrick_king> tapu: do you mean dvd videos
[10:10] <ailean> why are you running hoary tapu?
[10:10] <patrick_king> !tell tapu about restricted formats
[10:10] <bob_4_a_day> GueVaRa you're there.
[10:11] <steel> !tell me about mouse
[10:11] <bob_4_a_day> !cli
[10:11] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[10:11] <GueVaRa> bob_4_a_day: lol...but dont want to keep asking stupid Qs.... :)
[10:11] <GueVaRa> ubotu: thx :)
[10:11] <ubotu> GueVaRa: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:12] <patrick_king> has any one been able to enable swat with samba 3
[10:12] <hintswen> also how do i change the screen resolution(for login screen)
[10:13] <patrick_king> !swat
[10:13] <ubotu> well, swat is Samba Web Administration Tool | sudo apt-get install swat | http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/swat.8.html
[10:13] <Sir_X> Why did my courier-imap work yesterday and now I get Authentication failure all the time?
[10:13] <Sir_X> The log doesn't give any useful info, just LOGIN FAILED, ip=[::ffff:0.0.0.0] 
[10:14] <maz> hi all
[10:14] <Sir_X> hi maz
[10:14] <maz> I have a little problem with fonts...
[10:14] <PwcrLinux> aha, it's IPv6
[10:14] <Sir_X> Well, what do I do about it?
[10:15] <onkarshinde> maz: State your problem
[10:16] <bob_4_a_day> please state the nature of the medical emeregency
[10:16] <Sir_X> PwcrLinux what do I do about it?
[10:16] <falcon3> State the nature of your ubuntu emergency
[10:16] <maz> I'm using dapper and it's the second time I upgrade some package and the fonts become "ugly"
[10:16] <PwcrLinux> Sir_X: Ask someone in here, I'm not sure the failures..
[10:16] <Mystery47> hello ppl...:)
[10:16] <River> ailean: thanks for the link & info
[10:17] <Sir_X> I made the userdb and when I try courierauthtest with either my account login or the password in the userdb I just get Authentication FAILED :S I use breezy btw
[10:17] <Mystery47> Does someone know latest repository to ubuntu....that where i can get newest evolution update...?
[10:17] <Sir_X> BTW before upgrading from hoary I got it working in a ... breeze
[10:17] <onkarshinde> maz: Dapper questions in #ubuntu+1
[10:18] <intelikey> Mystery47 dapper ?
[10:18] <bliss1_> onkarshinde: hi
[10:18] <Mystery47> sorry...i dont know what is dapper?
[10:18] <maz> onkarshine: thnaks
[10:19] <bliss1_> ompaul:cloudy 9'C
[10:19] <Sir_X> Ah well, I guess it's not possible to get a working mail system as easily as I thought on ubuntu
[10:19] <onkarshinde> Mystery47: Repositories are always for an particular release. Can you tell whiche release you are using? 5.10?
[10:19] <intelikey> !dapper
[10:19] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[10:19] <onkarshinde> bliss1_: Hi
[10:19] <Mystery47> 5.10....yes
[10:19] <Sir_X> I guess I'll just install Fedora again
[10:20] <intelikey> onkarshinde you in ub plus one  of just like sending people there ?
[10:20] <ompaul> bliss1_, 11 :-) good morning
[10:20] <PwcrLinux> Gm ompaul
[10:20] <ompaul> morning PwcrLinux
[10:20] <onkarshinde> Mystery47: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin.
[10:21] <bliss1_> ompaul: yep good morning nice to here and not at work
[10:21] <onkarshinde> intelikey: I didn't understand that
[10:21] <intelikey> onkarshinde it's ok.  nm.
[10:21] <Mystery47> and then what?
[10:21] <zyth> I don't believe in this 'ubuntu'
[10:21] <zyth> sounds fictional to me
[10:21] <zyth> ;)
[10:22] <falcon3> LIES! ALL VICIOUS LIES !
[10:22] <zyth> serious question: an installation to my HD will be much faster than the livecd, correct?
[10:22] <intelikey> zyth  it is.  the made up story of some code monkey.
[10:22] <ompaul> zyth, it is correct
[10:22] <onkarshinde> Mystery47: paste it and procide us url. SO that we know if you need to change repositories
[10:22] <falcon3> zyth: you know what sounds fictional? flying chickens that eat oversized koala's
[10:22] <zyth> falcon3, I have one of THOSE in my backyard.
[10:22] <bliss1_> ompaul: got a file called iasl its a star shape how can i make iasl in to ./iasl
[10:22] <zyth> this 'easy to use linux' however... ;)
[10:23] <zyth> bliss1_, ./ just means 'current directory'
[10:23] <falcon3> zyth: any leprechaun albino elephants back there?
[10:23] <zyth> so if you're in the same dir as iasl, it'd be run as ./iasl, assuming it'd chmod'd +x
[10:23] <intelikey> ./  $PWD    `pwd`
[10:23] <zyth> falcon3, no, they dislike the cold canadian winter.
[10:23] <ompaul> bliss1_, is it executable?
[10:24] <falcon3> zyth: they just dislike canadians :p
[10:24] <bliss1_> zyth: ok at the moment its in /home how to tranfer into ./
[10:24] <zyth> falcon3, possibly.
[10:24] <bliss1_> ompual yes
[10:24] <Mystery47> oh.....but how i can put url to you.....and what was that pastebin...? (im sorry for my bad eng...)
[10:25] <zyth> bliss1_, ,/ just means 'whereever you are now' directory-wise, unless you're asking how to move a file to / ?
[10:25] <plouf> bonjour
[10:25] <intelikey> !paste
[10:25] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[10:25] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Mystery47 about pastebin
[10:25] <zyth> er ./
[10:25] <ompaul> !fr
[10:25] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:26] <patrick_king> has any one been able to enable swat with samba 3
[10:26] <sethk> bliss1_, he meant . not ,
[10:26] <zyth> yeah, I typod.
[10:26] <intelikey> Mystery47  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/    and after you paste your text there  the url will be something like   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/82638
[10:26] <Mystery47> ok....ill check that thing...and i send it there....:)
[10:26] <bliss1_> zyth yep move or copy from /home to ./
[10:26] <intelikey> of course that is a fictitious url ^
[10:27] <bliss1_> zyth: as in ./iasl
[10:27] <sethk> bliss1_, cp ~/whatever .
[10:27] <zyth> bliss1_, you are missing the point.  './' is not a directory.  It is a term used to denote the CURRENT directory.  '/' is a directory, namely, the root of your filesystem...
[10:27] <intelikey> ~ !=  /home
[10:28] <thatGuy_> guys.  how do i get general avi files to play?
[10:28] <thatGuy_> general divx i guess
[10:28] <bliss1_> zyth ok yes i was missing the point
[10:28] <zyth> thatGuy_, mplayer works.
[10:28] <intelikey> ~ = /home/`whoami`/
[10:28] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell thatGuy_ about divx
[10:28] <thatGuy_> naw, it aint playing 'em
[10:28] <onkarshinde> thatGuy_: You totem-xine
[10:29] <Mystery47> ok..
[10:29] <bliss1_> sethk cp /home/iasl ~/isal ?
[10:29] <bliss1_> isal
[10:30] <sethk> bliss1_, no, ~ is an abbreviation for /home/you
[10:30] <thatGuy_> thx gnomefreak
[10:30] <intelikey> well maybe i should by default  ~ = /home/`whoami`/    you can set your home dir...   i had one in /usr/local/opt/sneeky     so go figure.
[10:30] <zyth> bliss1_, is this 'isal' a program? shell script?
[10:30] <gnomefreak> thatGuy_: yw
[10:30] <sethk> bliss1_, so, cp ~/iasl .   copies the file from /home/iasl to the current directory
[10:30] <bigfoot1> help, i'm not getting any sound from flash anymore (the flash like in google video)
[10:30] <Chousuke> sethk: actually, ~ is an abbreviation of $HOME
[10:30] <bliss1_> zyth: its an excutable
[10:30] <zyth> bigfoot1, tried rebooting?
[10:30] <Chousuke> if your home dir is /var/www/something, then it points to that. :)
[10:31] <bliss1_> sethk; ok i will try
[10:31] <ussjoin> I have somewhat of an odd question, with which I hope you guys can help me....
[10:31] <sethk> Chousuke, true, but you can see why I would omit that detail  :)
[10:31] <bigfoot1> zyth: i just did
[10:31] <ussjoin> I have ubuntu breezy, and mysql5 installed.
[10:31] <zyth> bigfoot1, or something could be hogging the sound device, or flash may have gone nuts.
[10:31] <bigfoot1> zyth: maybe enablig system sounds did it.
[10:31] <Mystery47> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12830
[10:31] <ussjoin> I need to uninstall mysql5, so that I can do a dist-upgrade, and just go ahead and do dapper's mysql version.
[10:31] <ussjoin> How do I do that?
[10:31] <Mystery47> there it is...:)
[10:31] <zyth> bigfoot1, using gnome or kde?
[10:32] <bigfoot1> zyth: gnome
[10:32] <gnomefreak> ussjoin: why do you have to uninstall it the upgrade should upgrade it
[10:32] <zyth> bigfoot1, esd could be hogging it.
[10:32] <ussjoin> gnomefreak: Because breezy didn't install it in the first place.
[10:32] <gnomefreak> would be why its called _upgrade_
[10:32] <intelikey> ussjoin sudo apt-get remove mysql5
[10:32] <ussjoin> gnomefreak: So I didn't think it would magically apt-control it now.
[10:32] <zyth> bigfoot1, so check to see if anything is using /dev/dsp
[10:32] <ussjoin> intelikey: I didn't install it using apt. It wasn't in the repo.
[10:32] <PwcrLinux> bigfoot1: go to your speaker icon and right click to volume control, check on PCM is enabled..
[10:32] <gnomefreak> ussjoin: what do you mean breezy didnt install it?
[10:33] <ussjoin> gnomefreak: mysql5 isn't in breezy. So I had to install using the download of the binaries.
[10:33] <intelikey> ussjoin then go the the dir of the makefile and do a   make uninstall       oh i forgot you rm'd the dir.... right.
[10:33] <bigfoot1> PwcrLinux: zyth rythymbox's plays audio
[10:34] <bigfoot1> i just tried now
[10:34] <ussjoin> intelikey: Also I didn't compile from source, I used the downloadable binaries. :-)
[10:34] <bigfoot1>  so i think this means that nothing is/was using dev/dsp
[10:34] <ussjoin> intelikey: But yes, I rm'd the directory.
[10:34] <intelikey> oh binarry ussjoin use the binarry to remove it.
[10:34] <bigfoot1> PwcrLinux: yes, pcm is selected
[10:34] <zyth> bigfoot1, rythmbox uses esd.. if esd is locking /dev/dsp...
[10:35] <zyth> esd = laaaame.  needs to be shot.  just use ALSA.
[10:35] <ussjoin> intelikey: how?
[10:35] <PwcrLinux> bigfoot1: okay good and try again
[10:35] <intelikey> --help   it   maybe they put the help in it....
[10:35] <bigfoot1> PwcrLinux: when you say "try again" do you mean reboot?
[10:36] <PwcrLinux> bigfoot1: try to play video if the sound working
[10:36] <ussjoin> intelikey: Nope.
[10:36] <ussjoin> intelikey: Nothing there about uninstalling.
[10:36] <zyth> can I install from a livecd?
[10:36] <intelikey> aren't they nice.
[10:37] <ussjoin> intelikey: Mm-hmm.
[10:37] <intelikey> zyth what version ?
[10:37] <zyth> oops
[10:37] <zyth> darnit, I missed the answer to my question
[10:37] <ussjoin> intelikey: Any ideas?
[10:38] <zyth> can whomever posted it please repeat?
[10:38] <intelikey> ussjoin avtually your question fell off the ubuntu topic when you said  'unsupported'
[10:38] <intelikey> zyth what version ?
[10:38] <zyth> intelikey, 5.10 breezy powerpc livecd
[10:38] <ussjoin> intelikey: What?
[10:39] <zyth> that's current I do believe
[10:39] <intelikey> zyth not unless you are a pretty good hand with linux.
[10:39] <sethk> zyth, why would you install with the live cd?  Install with the install cd, and run live with the live cd
[10:39] <zyth> well, I've installed debian with no install media but a single floppy, but I don't feel like chrooting around.  I'll just d/l the install cd.
[10:40] <pvd2006> I am having trouble installing mozplayerxp into firefox I placed the .so files under plugin folder and .xpt under component folders yet it is not showing up under about:plugins. I dont see why its not working...
[10:40] <zyth> sethk, cause I don't want to have to dl another 650mb and burn it.
[10:40] <intelikey> ussjoin you installed unsupported package,  it's a question for the packagers  not  ubuntu... if i had the answer i'd tell you but.
[10:40] <sethk> zyth, download it and burn it
[10:40] <zyth> sethk, yes, I said I'd do that.  I was just hoping I wouldn't need to.
[10:40] <zyth> :P
[10:40] <sethk> zyth, in the long run you'll be much better off
[10:41] <ompaul> zyth, if you do the new (Beta) version it will install but you would be better with the install
[10:41] <ompaul> zyth, just cos there is no going back :-)
[10:41] <intelikey> yeah and you can't do dist-upgrade from hoary to dapper either.  but i just did.
[10:42] <ompaul> intelikey, be happy it worked for you keep testing
[10:42] <intelikey> ompaul it didn't work.  hehhe
[10:42] <gnomefreak> what is mozplayerxp?
[10:42] <intelikey> i had to fix it.
[10:42] <ompaul> intelikey, the supported way to do that is hoary ->  breezy -> dapper
[10:42] <PwcrLinux> lol
[10:43] <intelikey> ompaul not on dialup it aint
[10:43] <pvd2006> gnomefreak, mozplayerxp is  a alternative to mplayer-plugin
[10:43] <pvd2006> I cant get mplayer-plugin to work whatsoever with firefox and mozilla
[10:43] <gnomefreak> oh
[10:43] <pvd2006> gnomefreak, it shows up under about:plugins when I install mplayer, and it shows that all file formats are supported and enabled but when I try to open something firefox and mozilla just crash with a segmentation fault
[10:43] <ompaul> intelikey, get CDs for each version and enjoy, dapper will have more updates than you need if your on dial up
[10:44] <pvd2006> I'
[10:44] <pig> i
[10:44] <bliss1_> seth\zyth ok I have both these files in my pwd when i invoke command bliss1@xstation:~$ sudo ./iasl -tc dsdt.dsl
[10:44] <bliss1_>    i am told sudo: ./iasl: command not found
[10:44] <pvd2006> I'm talking to people in #mplayer, #firefox, #mozilla, still havent figured it out.
[10:44] <pvd2006> funny thing is, I had mplayer working beforel
[10:44] <pvd2006> mplayer plugin working that is.
[10:45] <gnomefreak> pvd2006: im thinking they would beable to help more because breezy nor dapper have that in repos
[10:45] <pig> i have a problem with ubuntu boot loader
[10:45] <intelikey> pig which boot loader ?
[10:45] <intelikey> default   gnome ?
[10:46] <pig> i'm italian so my english isn't so perfect so sorry
[10:46] <frootstripe> #physics
[10:46] <gnomefreak> !it
[10:46] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:46] <doms> italiano
[10:46] <doms> pangit ka
[10:46] <luke_> whenever I attempt to execute firefox 1.5.2 I get this error http://pastebin.com/678447
[10:46] <luke_> does anyone know how Ive screwed up?
[10:47] <gnomefreak> luke_: in terminal?
[10:47] <luke_> yes
[10:47] <gnomefreak> dont owrry about it
[10:47] <gnomefreak> worry*
[10:47] <bliss1_> ompaul: i thought dapper was 1 st June release date
[10:47] <gnomefreak> luke_: it will still start
[10:47] <luke_> but it still doesnt start, even from Gnome
[10:47] <ompaul> bliss1_, and it is
[10:47] <gnomefreak> luke_: did you read the wiki?
[10:47] <pig> the boot stopp in this voice: calculating module depencies
[10:47] <luke_> yes
[10:47] <luke_> i did what it said
[10:48] <ompaul> bliss1_, for that command sudo sh ./foo
[10:48] <gnomefreak> luke_: if you followed it    ff1.5.0.2 will work
[10:48] <sethk> luke_, that's harmless
[10:48] <pig> what is the cause?
[10:48] <bliss1_> ompaul: ok i will try thanks
[10:48] <luke_> sethk, it doesnt run however
[10:49] <gnomefreak> luke_: the errors in terminal you get from starting ff from terminal are from the updater
[10:49] <sethk> luke_, ok, but those messages aren't the reason
[10:49] <gnomefreak> ff 1.5.0.2 checks updates on every startup
[10:49] <luke_> ill copy the whole error message guys, one sec
[10:49] <bliss1_> ompaul: ./iasl: ./iasl: cannot execute binary file
[10:50] <ompaul> bliss1_, type >> file iasl <<
[10:51] <luke_> no, luckily
[10:52] <luke_> gnomefreak, sethk, http://pastebin.com/678452
[10:53] <bliss1_> ompaul; bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[10:53] <bliss1_> 
[10:53] <sethk> luke_, it's the messages about not finding shared object file that are killing it
[10:53] <gnomefreak> luke_: the other version of ff did you happen to disable pango?
[10:53] <luke_> sethk, can I fix that?
[10:53] <sethk> luke_, looks like you don't have pango installed
[10:53] <sethk> luke_, install what's missing
[10:53] <luke_> gnomefreak, Im not even sure what pango is, i tried to apt-get install pango it but it didnt work
[10:53] <gnomefreak> luke_: there was a work around in ff you didnt happen to use it did you?
[10:53] <luke_> no
[10:54] <sethk> luke_, use synaptic and try search and see if it finds stuff for pango
[10:54] <gnomefreak> luke_: what ff version were you using?
[10:54] <ompaul> bliss1_, and you typed >> file iasl <<
[10:54] <ompaul> bliss1_, without the <><>
[10:54] <luke_> 1.0.8
[10:55] <luke_> sethk, cant find it in synaptic
[10:55] <luke_> sethk, unless you mean libpango
[10:55] <sethk> luke_, libpango it is
[10:56] <sethk> luke_, whenever you see a message about not finding a shared object, it's talking about a library
[10:56] <bliss1_> ompaul: iasl: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
[10:57] <will_> hi guys
[10:57] <ompaul> bliss1_, that seems like a very very old file
[10:57] <ompaul> bliss1_, where did you get it?
[10:57] <darx> hi guys. I'd like to compile imule.. What are the packages required???
[10:57] <luke_> turns out libpango was already installed. I reinstalled it, but it didnt seem to work
[10:57] <fyrestrtr> can someone recommend a browser that is able to alter is UA string? Opera can change its 'identify as Internet Explorer', but it doesn't work for one site (it refuses to let me login).
[10:57] <will_> how can i cature video from a tv card (tvtime plays beatufully) but i want to expoty to mpeg or divx ,,,, is there a prog that can do this >>
[10:58] <will_> ?
[10:58] <bliss1_> ompaul http://pastebin.ca/50886
[10:58] <ompaul> will_, please read the message from the bot
[10:58] <will_> thankyou
[10:59] <darx> hi guys. I'd like to compile imule.. What are the packages required???
[10:59] <luke_> although I only have version 1.0, it seems to be searching for 1.4.0
[10:59] <darx> any ideas??
[11:00] <ompaul> bliss1_, roll back a bit, what do you actually want to run/build the url in that post is truncated
[11:01] <will_> ompaul , thanks man , my questions was about video capture tho .... it plays fine from my vcr .... im cant output to AVI YET
[11:01] <will_> (sorry caps)
[11:01] <dli> darx, if you don't really know howto :( I suggest you to find a .deb
[11:02] <luke_> oh well nevermind, Firefox 1.0.8 is fine I guess
[11:02] <ompaul> will_, sorry "mythtv" stick that word into wiki.ubuntu.com and do a text search I don't have specific reference the bot has one but I am not sure if it is good I'll send it but I suggest the wiki first
[11:03] <dli> luke_, I suggest firefox-1.5.0.2, lower versions all crash from time to time
[11:03] <gnomefreak> luke_: sethk when i updated the ff1.5 wiki it was tested with 1.0.7 and 1.5.0.1 not 1.0.8 im wondering if they changed something that much from 1.0.7-1.0.8
[11:03] <darx> i can't
[11:03] <will_> lol cheers ompaul
[11:03] <luke_> dli, I agree, but atm Im unable to make the upgrade
[11:04] <darx> have to get my hands dirty once in a while
[11:05] <dli> Luke, as a temporary solution, you can go to mozilla.org and download the general binary version :( I think dapper has 1.5, but not sure about 1.5.0.2
[11:05] <luke_> gnomefreak, the wiki worked great, its just a probelm with the actual execution of firefox
[11:05] <gnomefreak> dli: dapper has 1.5.0.1
[11:05] <sethk> gnomefreak, it's possible, but I think it's more likely an install or configuration issue
[11:05] <gnomefreak> luke_: but if 1.0.8 needs a lib that 1.0.7 didnt use it can cause issues
[11:05] <dli> darx, okay, download the source, usually, there's a howto or readme or install (in Capitals, most likely), read it (them)
[11:06] <luke_> ah ic
[11:06] <gnomefreak> luke_: did you run the divert command?
[11:06] <bliss1_> ompaul; try http://pastebin.ca/50902
[11:06] <luke_> gnomefreak, yes
[11:06] <Bunta> Hey folks.. I'm at school atm, but still havin some problems regardin my combo drive o.o
[11:07] <liquidindian> In what way is su different from sudo?
[11:07] <will_> mythtv is for dbv ... bugger .... im on analog
[11:07] <gnomefreak> liquidindian: yes but sudo can do anything su can do and more
[11:07] <darx> thanks
[11:07] <wy> I'm looking for something like screen, which can let Emacs frontends to be detached from the editing work. And later another emacs can attach to it.
[11:08] <gnomefreak> wy: cant you run emacs in screen?
[11:08] <liquidindian> gnomefreak, Is su similar?  I've only used sudo...
[11:08] <hyphenated> liquidindian: su _always_ prompts for a password, and defaults to running a shell if no command is specified
[11:08] <gnomefreak> liquidindian: my advice is to keep using sudo dont bother with su
[11:09] <wy> gnomefreak:  Yes. But sometimes I want to switch from emacs -nw to emacs with X without quitting the editing session
[11:09] <ompaul> !root
[11:09] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[11:09] <ompaul> liquidindian, read that page ^^ its useful
[11:09] <dli> gnomefreak, does sudo handle XAUTHORITY?
[11:10] <liquidindian> Cheers.
[11:10] <Trunkz> ompaul, you mind helpin me out with my combo drive problem?
[11:10] <Sir_X> Hmm, I got a bit further with the mail setup but now I ran into another problem
[11:10] <liquidindian> Cheers!
[11:10] <gnomefreak> dli: afaik it does
[11:10] <Sir_X> I let fetchmail deliver mail to test@mydomain.com to root and want postfix+procmail to sort it out
[11:10] <firepol> hi huys, i want to use the latest version of amarok, to do so i see i must use the dapper packages (else there are dependency problems) do you think im safe to upgrade to dapper?
[11:11] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell firepol about easysource
[11:11] <Sir_X> but I get it back because <root@localhost> gets expanded to <root@localhost.mydomain.com> and the domain localhost.mydomain.com does not exists
[11:11] <ompaul> Trunkz, define the issue on one line please
[11:11] <Snow> Hello. I'm having trouble getting started.
[11:11] <gnomefreak> firepol: go to that link there is amarok repos
[11:11] <firepol> there isnt
[11:11] <KrisWood> Hi Snow, what kind of trouble are you having?
[11:11] <firepol> ive justr added to sopurces.list the repos, it cant find the Packages.gz
[11:11] <gnomefreak> firepol: what do you mean there isnt?
[11:11] <firepol> i had to add it as "dapper"
[11:11] <gnomefreak> on easysource there is
[11:12] <firepol> http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/Installation_HowTo#Distribution_Packages
[11:12] <gnomefreak> firepol: 1st mistake was mixing breezy and dappers repos
[11:12] <ompaul> Trunkz, and it is better to ask the channel, than one person what if I don't know the answer, maybe you end up having to ask the channel, and if you repeat the question you will have people on your back
[11:12] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[11:12] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:12] <Snow> OK. I tried running a Live CD of the old Badger version. It crashed by just giving me a black screen until I selected the safe mode instead of the default.
[11:12] <Trunkz> o.O
[11:12] <gnomefreak> ^^^ there are amarok and kubuntu repos
[11:12] <adu> hi
[11:12] <Trunkz> anyway.. gonna try a different CD
[11:12] <Trunkz> see how that works
[11:13] <gnomefreak> Snow: sounds like a video card issue
[11:13] <Snow> How do I set up Python so I can program in that, creating and running code?
[11:13] <ompaul> Trunkz, define the issue on one line please was my request, where is the answer to that?
[11:13] <Snow> Gnome: A live CD of the Kubuntu version did work, though.
[11:13] <adu> does Ubuntu use Gnome by default?
[11:14] <adu> k
[11:14] <gnomefreak> adu: yes and kubuntu uses kde and xubuntu uses xfce
[11:14] <KrisWood> yes ubuntu uses gnome by default
[11:14] <ompaul> Snow, install eric or idle to develop it
[11:14] <KrisWood> unless you use kubuntu
[11:14] <firepol> ubotu: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest breezy mai doesnt work
[11:14] <ubotu> firepol: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[11:14] <adu> thanks
[11:14] <liquidindian> gnomefreak, ompaul :  I found sudo i which does what I need, thanks :)
[11:14] <firepol> ubotu: its what im trying to explain you
[11:14] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, firepol
[11:14] <adu> i like gnome :)
[11:14] <Snow> How do I install Eric or Idle?
[11:15] <gnomefreak> firepol: define doesnt work?
[11:15] <gnomefreak> Snow: apt-get install idle
[11:15] <Trunkz> Ubuntu seems to be having problems with my Combo Drive.. I had shut down the laptop, removed the old cd drive, and replaced it with a combo drive. Now for example, I put in a DVD.. Load up Totem, click on play dvd.. and it says failed to find mountpoint for /dev/hdc
[11:15] <Snow> Without the "sudo" part?
[11:15] <gnomefreak> eric isnt on live cd iirc
[11:15] <gnomefreak> Snow: with sudo
[11:15] <firepol> gomefreak: if i do apt-get update i get these errors: Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[11:15] <firepol> Reading package lists... Done
[11:15] <firepol> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://kubuntu.org breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kubuntu.org_packages_amarok-latest_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[11:15] <firepol> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[11:15] <firepol> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:15] <putte> How can I get sound from several applications at the same time?
[11:15] <gnomefreak> firepol: no pasting
[11:15] <firepol> sorry
[11:15] <ompaul> adu, ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde, xubuntu = xfce (for low powered machines), edubuntu gome aimed at education and kids, ubuntu-server -no X just a few more server packages but nothing you won't find in the repos
[11:15] <gnomefreak> firepol: run sudo apt-get update and paste the full thing to me on pastebin please
[11:16] <ompaul> Trunkz, does it play cds?
[11:16] <KrisWood> Snow, You'll get used to sudo after a while, it's there for your own safety. ;) You can alternatively use a root terminal but then you're eternally in root mode and that can be dangerous hehe
[11:16] <Snow> OK... I also need to get online, and to get my USB drive working so I can transfer files from Windows. (I'm hoping to have a dual installation.)
[11:16] <Trunkz> Well, I put in the Ubuntu install cd.. browsed to /media/cdrom0, and the files are there and everything
[11:16] <Snow> Actually, I'm not even sure how to get to the terminal or to this sudo program.
[11:16] <Trunkz> and it also works when I put a DVD in, I see the video_ts folder, with all the .vob files inside
[11:17] <gnomefreak> Snow: applications>accesories>terminal
[11:17] <Trunkz> But totem doesnt seem to be recognising the mount point o.O
[11:17] <firepol> gomefreak: http://pastebin.com/678465
[11:17] <Snow> That brings up the terminal, and there I type "sudo apt-get install [whatever] "?
[11:17] <Trunkz> Exact error: "Failed to find mountpoint for device /dev/hdc in /etc/fstab"
[11:18] <KrisWood> Snow, the terminal is in Applications > accessories
[11:18] <Snow> OK.
[11:18] <gnomefreak> firepol: go to kubuntu's main page i think its kubuntu.com and you will see different "working" repos for kubuntu and amarok
[11:18] <KrisWood> There was a root terminal in Applications > System Tools in hoary but I don't see it in Breezy hmmm
[11:19] <gnomefreak> KrisWood: you have to add it to menu in breezy and dapper
[11:19] <ompaul> Trunkz, put in the ubuntu CD and do this: df -h and put the output in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:19] <KrisWood> ah ok
[11:19] <gnomefreak> using smeg or alacarte
[11:19] <KrisWood> I'm not too worried about it, I've gotten in the habit of typing sudo now
[11:19] <Sir_X> KrisWood, or just open a regular terminal and type su -
[11:19] <gnomefreak> sudo -i will put you in "root" term
[11:19] <KrisWood> I don't think su works in ubuntu...
[11:20] <Snow> So... I add a program to the desktop so I can access a terminal to access sudo to install IDLE so I can run Python?
[11:20] <KrisWood> thanks gnomefreak, good to know
[11:20] <Sir_X> It does here, but maybe it's because I enabled the root user temporarily
[11:20] <gnomefreak> Sir_X: su is disabled in ubuntu by default and is _not_ recommended to enable it
[11:20] <KrisWood> Snow, Python should run native in ubuntu, you shouldn't have to run it through anything
[11:20] <firepol> gnomefreak, ill do that
[11:20] <Snow> Gnome: If that's so, how do I install stuff?
[11:20] <Trunkz> ompaul.. okey :o
[11:21] <will_> xawtv look like it will do it ... thanks anyway
[11:21] <Snow> Kris, how do I do that? I tried creating a .py file on the desktop and opening it. That gave me an editor, but I couldn't run it as code.
[11:21] <gnomefreak> Snow: sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[11:21] <ompaul> Sir_X, what you do in the privacy of your own command line is your business, however in this channel we support doing things with sudo, please assist us in that thanks
[11:21] <Snow> Didn't you say sudo is disabled?
[11:21] <KrisWood> no
[11:22] <KrisWood> sudo is not disabled
[11:22] <ompaul> Snow, no root is disabled by default
[11:22] <tonyyarusso> Is there a Linux driver for a Lexmark P 6250 printer?  It's not listed on the wiki or linuxprinting.org.
[11:22] <Trunkz> !pastebin
[11:22] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[11:22] <Trunkz> better xD
[11:22] <KrisWood> sudo is ubuntu's way of keeping you from being root all the time
[11:22] <KrisWood> it's a good thing in the end
[11:22] <BlueEalge> snow: su is disabled sudo is enabled
[11:22] <ompaul> KrisWood, and in the beginning
[11:23] <KrisWood> lol ompaul
[11:23] <Trunkz> ompaul: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12832
[11:23] <BlueEalge> tonyyarusso: Odds are that there isn't. Lexmark are not friendly to Linux. But please feel free to email them and ask for linux drivers for your printer. If enough people ask them they just might start making them.
[11:24] <tonyyarusso> BlueEalge: Was afraid of that.
[11:24] <putte> How can I make applications play sound simultaneously?
[11:24] <Snow> How about getting my wireless Net connection working? How do I do that?
[11:25] <firepol> gnomefreak: seems that amarok is no more releasing breezuy packages. latest trunks are available only for dapper
[11:25] <ompaul> Trunkz, try another DVD after you have implemented the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:25] <BlueEalge> snow: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[11:25] <firepol> gnomefreak: do you think Ill break my distro if I upgrade to dapper now?
[11:25] <liquidindian> putte,  I changed amarok to xine instead of gstreamer, and that worked.  I'm not too knowlegable, though
[11:25] <BlueEalge> !wireless
[11:25] <ubotu> it has been said that wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[11:25] <Trunkz> I've followed that wiki, and installed the libdvdcss3 package etc..
[11:26] <gnomefreak> firepol: theres that chance but its for most part "safe" or atleast the devel team feels it is
[11:27] <firepol> the devel team is probably using ubuntu, not kubuntu, right?
[11:27] <gnomefreak> firepol: i suggest if you want to upgrade to first make sure ubuntu-desktop is installed or kubuntu-desktop if using kde than changing sources.list to dappers list (will have ubotu send you list) and than sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:27] <liquidindian> Odd question for here, but you're friendly.   Is it possible for XP to read ext3 partitions?  (Or does anyone use an iriver with ubuntu?)
[11:27] <gnomefreak> firepol: the devel team for kubuntu uses kubuntu
[11:27] <BlueEalge> liquidindian: There are a couple of ext3 drivers. Most of them are read-only afaik.
[11:28] <gnomefreak> firepol: or it wouldnt be developed
[11:28] <KrisWood> Snow, do you mean get your wireless net working in safe mode? I'm not sure if it will work in safe mode on the live cd like that
[11:28] <Snow> No, once I try installing.
[11:28] <KrisWood> ah ok
[11:28] <BlueEalge> liquidindian: http://www.google.com/search?q=windows+ext3+filesystem
[11:28] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell firepol about sources
[11:28] <Snow> And am I correct in assuming I can safely install from the install CD, onto a Windows machine, without it eating my Windows and files?
[11:28] <KrisWood> it should just automagicly work if your network is set for dhcp
[11:28] <ompaul> Trunkz, just try this ls -al /media/*  and paste that into paste.ubuntu-nl.org thanks
[11:29] <KrisWood> Snow, no, windows may well get eaten
[11:29] <liquidindian> BlueEalge,  thanks.  Looks like I'm going to have to install XP to get my girlfriend's mp3 player working :/
[11:29] <KrisWood> You'll want to back up stuff first
[11:29] <gnomefreak> firepol: use the link that ends in 6666 and replace yours with that
[11:29] <ompaul> Trunkz, I am trying to discover the layout of your machine - as the software sees it
[11:29] <hyphenated> Snow: most people manage to do that without any trouble, but back things up "just in case" and follow the instructions precisely
[11:29] <BlueEalge> liquidindian: Really? Isn't that just an USB storage device?
[11:29] <KrisWood> Snow, yeah, what hyphenated said
[11:29] <Trunkz> ompaul, aight :P.. tryin to see if VLC will play the DVD
[11:30] <luke_> how do I erase my 'history' in console?
[11:30] <KrisWood> Snow, it helps if you have a second hard drive or partition that you can install ubuntu on which has no windows files on it
[11:30] <liquidindian> BlueEalge,  That's what I thought.  I can tranfer files across, but the mp3 player doesn't 'see' them.
[11:30] <KrisWood> Then there's little risk to the rest of your files
[11:30] <hyphenated> luke_: in a shell, type in 'help history'
[11:30] <firepol> gnomefreak, i dont get the "6666", what do you mean with that number?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> firepol: look in your pm
[11:31] <Snow> Says here that my model of wireless card "works out of the box, though CD-installer doesn't recognize it."
[11:31] <BlueEalge> liquidindian: Then you've probably just put them in the wrong directory.
[11:31] <Snow> "configure it from the gnome network config tool."
[11:32] <Snow> Any particular way I should configure it?
[11:32] <BlueEalge> liquidindian: Some (most?) mp3 players has got to have the files in a spesific dir to access them. I know that my g/fs mp3 player has got something like a database too to keep track of the tunes. That needs a spesific util to update.
[11:32] <KrisWood> The gnome network config tool isn't too horrible. Most of its elements should be familiar to most windows users who've set up networking of any sort before, I think
[11:32] <BlueEalge> liquidindian: however you can manually browse the filesystem of that player.
[11:32] <ompaul> Snow, click on system administration networking highlight the card enable it and and configure it to your network
[11:32] <liquidindian> BlueEalge, that makes sense, as it thinks the files I deleted are still there.
[11:33] <KrisWood> Snow, it'll ask you for a password, it's the same password you use for sudo
[11:34] <Snow> And what password will that be?
[11:34] <KrisWood> whatever password you choose
[11:35] <KrisWood> when you install it should ask you to choose a root password
[11:35] <bliss1_> ompaul: just in case you did not get the reposted pastebin here is the url http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=387628&postcount=18
[11:35] <Snow> OK.
[11:35] <BlueEalge> liquidindian: Well then you just need to find out how that database thing works. Have you got any option of browsing the filesystem on the player itself?
[11:35] <BlueEalge> liquidindian: what is the make and model of it?
[11:36] <ompaul> bliss1_, I did not see it
[11:36] <bliss1_> ompaul; lets keep it simple do not read url i will post pastebin
[11:36] <liquidindian> BlueEalge, An Iriver H10, 1Gig
[11:36] <Dime|RD> can someone help me get gDesklets
[11:37] <Dime|RD> im looking for help on installing it
[11:37] <liquidindian> BlueEalge, I think it's called a Jr, it's a bit confusing at I bought it here in Japan.
[11:37] <ompaul> bliss1_, ls -al iasl <<please
[11:38] <tonyyarusso> I have two machines hooked up with a crossover ethernet cable, IPs are set to 192.168.2.10 and 192.168.2.12, same mask, but I can't ping between them.  Why?
[11:38] <BlueEalge> liquidindian: bad news on http://www.playerblog.com/archives/000493.shtml
[11:38] <Arafangion> The upgrade to Dapper broke my system. Could anyone help me recover information from my ext3 partitions that lived on LVM?
[11:38] <liquidindian> BlueEalge, Actually, looking in the system files on it is a H10Jr
[11:38] <davecb> How can i install TTF fonts on ubuntu????
[11:38] <Snow> Oh, right -- once I get IDLE going, how do I run Python programs independently from the interpreter?
[11:38] <Arafangion> davecb: I think you just put them into ~/.font or ~/.fonts
[11:38] <davecb> hmmmmmmm
[11:39] <davecb> no addons needed?
[11:39] <liquidindian> BlueEalge, Yep, that's a picture of it :)
[11:39] <Arafangion> davecb: afaik, no.
[11:39] <Codename_V> Snow: you don't
[11:39] <Sir_X> Shouldn't postfix be able to relay my mails to the ISP's smtp server without any special config?
[11:39] <Codename_V> Snow: python is an interpreted language
[11:39] <Arafangion> davecb: Linux has used truetype fonts for a LONG time.
[11:39] <Arafangion> Codename_V: Not neccessarily.
[11:39] <Snow> In Windows I can double-click on a .py file and it runs. Or I can open it in IDLE.
[11:39] <Codename_V> Arafangion: ok, I spose
[11:39] <BlueEalge> liquidindian: "Specifically iRiver said that the H10 will only support Microsoft's new Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) instead of the more common Mass Storage Class (MSC)." <= bad news
[11:40] <Arafangion> Snow: ONLY .exe's can be executed on windows.
[11:40] <Arafangion> Snow: Chances are, you have .py files "associated" with python, thus when you double click on the file, the OS tells python to load the file.
[11:40] <BlueEalge> snow: If you want to run a .py file in linux you need to make it executable (chmod a+x filename.py). Check man chmod for more options.
[11:41] <Arafangion> Snow: On linux, you have to actually make them executable, (chmod +x), and add #!/usr/bin/python as the first line of the program.
[11:41] <ompaul> Snow, you need to wrap them in python so the first line of the script should say:: #!/usr/bin/env python
[11:41] <bliss1_> pomaul; -rw-r--r--  1 bliss1 bliss1 509177 2006-04-24 08:18 iasl
[11:41] <bliss1_>   should i chmod+x iasl?
[11:41] <BlueEalge> snow: Also the files need to start with #!/usr/bin/python
[11:41] <hyphenated> need to make it executable _and_ make the first line say "#!/usr/bin/env python" or equivalent
[11:41] <liquidindian> BlueEalge, There a link at the bottom, though.  Thanks!
[11:41] <ompaul> bliss1_, I would
[11:41] <gnomefreak> Snow: you can double click them in ubuntu also but first you have to maek the file executable using chmod a+x file.py
[11:41] <Arafangion> So, does anybody know how one might mount LVM drives?
[11:41] <ompaul> bliss1_, 744 actually
[11:41] <BlueEalge> liquidindian: well, what do you know. :)
[11:42] <KrisWood> If someone wanted to make a suggestion to the ubuntu dev team how would they go about it?
[11:42] <ndlovu> tonyyarusso: cable good (do you have a link light)? firewall maybe?
[11:42] <ompaul> bliss1_, unless its a single user box
[11:42] <bliss1_> ompaul: yep its only me
[11:42] <tonyyarusso> ndlovu: Link light?  No.  Firewalling's built into the kernel of course.
[11:42] <firepol> KrisWood: forums?
[11:42] <KrisWood> hmmm good idea
[11:42] <KrisWood> I'll try that thanks
[11:42] <tonyyarusso> ndlovu: (I did this once before but don't remember how for the life of me.)
[11:42] <gnomefreak> hyphenated: !#/usr/bin/python should be fine since that is where the py interpruter is by default
[11:43] <dsas> Sound output has stopped working in Dapper - any ideas?
[11:43] <dsas> sorry wrong channel.
[11:43] <ndlovu> tonyyarusso: could it not be a cable problem?
[11:43] <firepol> KrisWood: also try to chat in #kubuntu channel
[11:43] <hyphenated> gnomefreak: on linux distros, it usually is. not so on other UNIX ones tho
[11:43] <tonyyarusso> ndlovu: I don't think so.
[11:44] <gnomefreak> hyphenated: true
[11:44] <Sonderblade> how do you change which language open office uses to spell check?
[11:44] <troglo> troglo
[11:44] <gnomefreak> hyphenated: i normally assume they are here for ubuntu help but truthfully i shouldnt assume that
[11:45] <gnomefreak> Sonderblade: in the OOo settings iirc
[11:45] <luke_> omg my Netgear Router wont allow me to perform port scans outbound of my network...
[11:45] <ndlovu> tonyyarusso: I also did it once but can't remember how :-)
[11:45] <will_> can i free space by deleting the downloaded files for the installed packages ??
[11:45] <tonyyarusso> ndlovu: Ah.
[11:45] <Sonderblade> gnomefreak: more specific?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> Sonderblade: in the writer/whatever OOo package in the tool bar there should be settings or prefferences
[11:46] <BlueEalge> luke_: ...and how is that a bad thing?
[11:46] <luke_> because I want to perform a portscan of my server
[11:47] <Sir_X> Is it possible to search for a specific phrase in all files?
[11:47] <BlueEalge> luke_: there are free 3rd party utils/web pages to do that.
[11:47] <ndlovu> tonyyarusso: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=110270 might help (not comprehensive)
[11:48] <will_> guys .... what folder does synaptic download install files to ??
[11:48] <martyn> Whats the best allround Media player like Win Meidaplayer
[11:48] <Snow> OK, I'm overwhelmed with info right now. Thanks for the help.
[11:49] <liquidindian> BlueEalge, Hmm, doesn't work on this player.  BAH
[11:49] <luke_> BlueEagle, yes but surely theres someway I can configure my router to allow it
[11:50] <bliss1_> ompaul; i have the correct command here ?  sudo sh ./iasl -tc dsdt.dsl
[11:52] <ompaul> bliss1_, no ./iasl -d dsdt.aml
[11:53] <BlueEalge> luke_: open a browser on your server (links or lynx will do) and head to http://scan.sygatetech.com/
[11:53] <BlueEalge> luke_: ...and check netgears site for information on your router.
[11:54] <bliss1_> ompaul; no i do have a .aml file thats what I am trying to make by invoking  sudo sh ./iasl -tc dsdt.dsl
[11:54] <bliss1_>    look at http://pastebin.ca/50902
[11:56] <ompaul> bliss1_, you create that using>>> cat /proc/acpi/dsdt > dsdt.aml
[11:56] <akonkwa> Hi everyone
[11:56] <luke_> BlueEalge, thanks
[11:56] <akonkwa> Does anyone Know How I can add fonts to inkscape?
[11:56] <akonkwa> Im using breezy
[11:56] <bliss1_> ompaul; did you  read the pastebin or have i misundrstood it
[11:58] <thatGuy_> !divx
[11:58] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:58] <Dime|RD> im upgrading to drake right now
[11:58] <Dime|RD> i guess the drake release is not final
[11:59] <spikeb> no, it's in beta
[11:59] <Dime|RD> when the final is released will be be able to upgrade like so?
[12:00] <BlueEalge> luke_: ain't no thing. :)
[12:00] <spikeb> yeah Dime|RD
[12:01] <akonkwa> Does anyone Know How I can add fonts to inkscape?
[12:01] <PaoloC> what is the difference between apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade?
[12:01] <BlueEalge> luke_: oh, and if the router does allow you to disable the blocking of port scans please enable it again after you have performed the neccessary scan(s). Even the most tech savy user might get infected by trojans that portscan other hosts.
[12:02] <luke_> will do mate
[12:02] <GreySim> akonkwa: I think you should just be able to drop fonts in ~/.fonts and have Inkscape get them automatically.  Inkscape may need a restart though, but I'm not sure.  I remember 1-2 apps I used to use didn't always catch on to the new fonts without a restart...
[12:02] <BlueEalge> paoloc: apt-get upgrade upgrades all new packages of your current distribution. apt-get distupgrade upgrades all files to the newest distro (ie. from hoary to breezy or from breezy to dapper) (both need apt-get update first)
[12:03] <BlueEalge> dime|rd: dapper drake is still beta. Will be stable by june 1st afaik.
[12:03] <Dime|RD> kool
[12:03] <Dime|RD> what are the differences?
[12:04] <Dime|RD> anything much?
[12:04] <PaoloC> I'm on dapper and today doing apt-get update I got:
[12:04] <PaoloC> paolo@Italia:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:04] <PaoloC> Lettura della lista dei pacchetti in corso... Fatto
[12:04] <PaoloC> Generazione dell'albero delle dipendenze in corso... Fatto
[12:04] <PaoloC> I seguenti pacchetti sono stati mantenuti alla versione attuale:
[12:04] <PaoloC>   gnome-cups-manager hplip-data linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386 python-netcdf
[12:04] <PaoloC> 0 aggiornati, 0 installati, 0 da rimuovere e 5 non aggiornati.
[12:05] <PaoloC> so i had to do dist-upgrade...
[12:10] <KrisWood> I've got a small problem: I tried to empty my trash and now I can't open anything in the "places" menu and cannot open the trash from its icon either
[12:10] <KrisWood> anyone have any ideas on how to resolve something like that?
[12:11] <GatoLoko> hi
[12:11] <BlueEalge> ubotu: tell paoloc about pastebin
[12:12] <newadmin> hi all..
[12:12] <KrisWood> ok what's the command to restart nautilus?
[12:12] <newadmin> i really need help ight now..
[12:13] <newadmin> ive got printing problem after i upgrade my dapper
[12:13] <GatoLoko> I've tried to install a package that says there is a conflict with a previous installed one. I know what do each conflickting package and what to install both (i think there must be no conflict and are thinking on filing a bug), is posible to install them?
[12:13] <newadmin> i use ubuntu dapper for print server..
[12:14] <newadmin> i use cupsys.. yesterday before i upgrade it, the cups was running smoth.. but today after i upgrade, the cups is not running well..
[12:15] <newadmin> the problem is, our window client could not print trough the print server.
[12:15] <pitti> newadmin: can you please look for a similar bug on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bugs, and if there is no such bug yet, file one?
[12:15] <newadmin> this is the error msg: I [24/Apr/2006:16:50:16 +0700]  Print-Job client-error-document-format-not-supported: Unsupported format 'application/octet-stream'!
[12:16] <newadmin> ouch.. i reaaly need help.. no one could print today.. :(
[12:16] <pitti> newadmin: you are on dapper, right?
[12:16] <KrisWood> ok I found nautilus restart but it's not fixing my problem.... :-/
[12:16] <KrisWood> does anyone know how to empty the trash from the terminal?
[12:17] <newadmin> yes.. i use dapper drake
[12:18] <Adross> for some reason, my ubuntu keeps freezing. I'll be using, then bam, nothing responds. Now, when i restart, the gui won't start at all and my monitor displays the 'no signal' sign. Thoughts?
[12:18] <GreySim> KrisWood: rm ~/.Trash
[12:18] <GreySim> I think.
[12:18] <newadmin> the link u've just gae me (launchpad) is error
[12:18] <GatoLoko> KrisWood try deleting the content of .Trash directory in your home
[12:18] <pitti> newadmin: so, please open a bug and attach your /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and the error_log
[12:18] <pitti> newadmin: you can revert to the previous version for now to repair it for you
[12:18] <pitti> newadmin: but I'd like to fix it in the current version
[12:18] <newadmin> how to downgrade my cupsys?
[12:19] <pitti> newadmin: oh,  could you try to remove and re-add the printer?
[12:19] <Sir_X> I have a cron question
[12:19] <newadmin> yes i could..
[12:19] <desastre> en catala
[12:19] <newadmin> the printer is ok when people print from linux client.. but not windows..
[12:20] <Adross> for some reason, my ubuntu keeps freezing. I'll be using, then bam, nothing responds. Now, when i restart, the gui won't start at all and my monitor displays the 'no signal' sign. Thoughts?
[12:21] <newadmin> i've googling bout it, and they said to uncomment "application/octet-stream" in /etc/cups/mime.types
[12:21] <Sir_X> Cron/sendmail question: I had to disable the MSP queues line in /etc/cron.d/sendmail because it was sending out mails to the root user of my ISP (??) for some odd reason. What are MSP queues, why should the line be there and how do I get it to send the mails to my local root user instead of to my ISP's root (probably it sent it to root but used the relayhost option in the postfix config)
[12:21] <newadmin> and in /etc/cups/mime.convs
[12:21] <newadmin> but still not work.. :((
[12:21] <PaoloC> I installed webboard on dapper but I doesn't start...
[12:22] <doms> wer i can download more fontwork gallery in my open writer
[12:22] <newadmin> whaa.. help me.. my client start yelling at me.. :((
[12:23] <newadmin> haloo..
[12:24] <newadmin> hello.. pitti where r u??
[12:24] <newadmin> please help.
[12:24] <pitti> newadmin: I need more specific information, like your configuratoin file and error_log, and what 'yelling' is in particluar :)
[12:25] <newadmin> where could i send you my config files?
[12:25] <KrisWood> thanks to those who answered me, I ended up googling it while waiting and forgot to check back here, the solution was indeed to rm .Trash followed by doing a killall nautilus to get everything running normal again
[12:25] <FearMoth> is there supposed to be a parport0 node in dapper? I'm trying to get xsane working with a parallel scanner, but it only runs as root.
[12:25] <pitti> newadmin: just attach them to the bug report
[12:26] <pitti> newadmin: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+filebug
[12:26] <PaoloC> ok, here is where you can see the problem I had with apt-get upgrade: http://pastebin.com/678527
[12:26] <pitti> FearMoth: /dev/lp0
[12:27] <FearMoth> pitti: should I make a symlink?
[12:27] <upmanza> hola
[12:27] <pitti> FearMoth: no, you should just use that device
[12:27] <newadmin> i think current cupsys cannot load mime.type "application/octet-stream"
[12:27] <upmanza> alguien espaol
[12:28] <GatoLoko> is possible to override the conflict between two packages?
[12:28] <FearMoth> pitti: any idea why xsane only detects my scanner while running as root?
[12:28] <pitti> newadmin: this is a generic 'binary' mime type, there's no driver for it
[12:28] <pitti> FearMoth: /dev/lp0 has group 'lp'?
[12:28] <FearMoth> yeah
[12:28] <FearMoth> and my regular user's in group lp and scanner
[12:29] <pitti> FearMoth: oh, well, you shouldn't actually be in 'lp', but if you are, it should just work
[12:29] <Alexi5> hello
[12:29] <pitti> FearMoth: but I don't have a scanner, sorry; file a bug maybe?
[12:29] <Steven_M> is there an ubuntu package for midnight commander?
[12:29] <pitti> Steven_M: mv
[12:29] <pitti> Steven_M: mc, sorry
[12:31] <selinium> FearMoth, try uninstalling and reinstalling xsane... It migt have got it's knickers in a twist... Remember to purge config files..
[12:31] <FearMoth> tried many times.. would the ppdev module need to be loaded? it's not, but xsane works as root, so I don't see why I would need to load it
[12:32] <Steven_M> pitti: is mc the package name, or merly the command to run it?
[12:32] <pitti> Steven_M: both actually
[12:33] <Steven_M> ok thanks
[12:35] <bigfoot1> how do i check my java version?
[12:36] <bimberi> bigfoot1: java -version
[12:36] <newadmin> hi pitti.. i just submit the bugs report..
[12:36] <zido> i'm using a Laptop with Ubuntu 5.10, and i was wondering, where should i look/what program to use if i want to use an external screen?
[12:37] <pitti> newadmin: thanks
[12:37] <newadmin> i also thank you in advance.. i really need the help..
[12:38] <pitti> newadmin: so, 'sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/cupsys_1.1.99.b1.r4929-0ubuntu9_*.deb' reverts to the previous version, btw
[12:39] <newadmin> $ sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/cupsys_1.1.99.b1.r4929-0ubuntu6_i386.deb
[12:39] <newadmin> dpkg - warning: downgrading cupsys from 1.1.99.rc2-0ubuntu1 to 1.1.99.b1.r4929-0ubuntu6.
[12:39] <pitti> newadmin: that looks good :)
[12:40] <newadmin> Installing new version of config file /etc/init.d/cupsys ...
[12:40] <newadmin> Installing new version of config file /etc/logrotate.d/cupsys ...
[12:40] <newadmin>  * Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd cupsd: Child exited on signal 11!
[12:40] <newadmin> invoke-rc.d: initscript cupsys, action "start" failed.
[12:40] <newadmin> admin@sta30:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys stop
[12:40] <newadmin>  * Stopping Common Unix Printing System: cupsd                                                                        [ ok ] 
[12:40] <newadmin> admin@sta30:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys start
[12:40] <newadmin>  * Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd cupsd: Child exited on signal 11!
[12:40] <pitti> newadmin: hm, seems you need to downgrade (i. e. install) libcups*.deb and cupsys-client*.deb as well
[12:41] <george-remp> hi, how can i install activex?
[12:42] <FearMoth> is /etc/init.d/networking == /etc/init.d/inetd in dapper?
[12:42] <GreySim> Does anyone know if it would be bad to have Avahi and Howl on the same machine?  I have this tutorial here which uses Howl, but the impression that I get from various sources is that Avahi is preferable, but I don't know enough about either to translate these instructions over to Avahi.  http://viebrock.ca/article/22/file-sharing-from-linux-to-os-x-a-quick-guide
[12:42] <thatGuy_> !flash
[12:42] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:42] <newadmin> pittiiiiiii... horeee...
[12:42] <_JuDgEn_> !raid
[12:42] <ubotu> I guess raid is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[12:43] <spikeb> im looking forward to gnash, it's looking like a bright futured project
[12:43] <newadmin> it work again... :)
[12:43] <newadmin> i just did your instruction.. :)
[12:43] <dt-oz-gc> Hi all. I get the message "Network host 'alice' is busy; will retry in 30 seconds..." when I try to print from on eubuntu host to a printer on the other. Anyway know why?
[12:43] <_JuDgEn_> !ntfs raid
[12:44] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _JuDgEn_
[12:44] <newadmin> i thinks current cupsys in dapper repo have big problem..
[12:44] <dt-oz-gc> I am running Breezy
[12:44] <falcon3> ntfs raid on linux... jich!
[12:44] <falcon3> evil! pure evil !!
[12:45] <newadmin> pitti.. thank you so much.. :) now our Windows clien could print again.. :)
[12:45] <pitti> newadmin: heh, no problem; the real problem will be to fix it for the 1.2rc2 version
[12:45] <dt-oz-gc> Has anyone got printing to work from one ubuntu box to another?
[12:46] <GreySim> Okay, nevermind.  Just gonna not try the easy way out and read up more on Avahi instead.  :)
[12:46] <newadmin> ok. we'll waiting for it.. :)
[12:46] <newadmin> ok.. now i've to go to fix another print server.. :D
[12:47] <newadmin> cu. bye.. :)
[12:49] <Beawolfe> Can someone tell me if a fat32 data drive can be shared by both Win XP Pro and Ubuntu?
[12:49] <coz_> before I reboot and most likely get the same error I ws hoping someone here could tell me hoe to get around the following error
[12:49] <catholikos> hi all
[12:50] <coz_> "ALERT! /dev/sda1 does not exist
[12:50] <coz_> /bin/sh: can't access tty; job controll turned off
[12:50] <catholikos> what is nfs?
[12:50] <bimberi> Beawolfe: yes
[12:50] <bimberi> !nfs
[12:50] <ubotu> methinks nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[12:51] <Beawolfe> is ther any particulars I need to know about?
[12:51] <bimberi> catholikos: it stands for "Network File System"
[12:51] <catholikos>  thx
[12:51] <catholikos> i am upgrading from hoary to breezy
[12:51] <bimberi> Beawolfe: read and write from both is possible
[12:52] <bimberi> !upgrade
[12:52] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[12:52] <catholikos> andi read i can
[12:52] <catholikos> If not running NFS as either client or server, remove portmap, as it's no longer needed:
[12:52] <catholikos> sudo apt-get --purge remove portma
[12:52] <Beawolfe> right now Ubuntu wont right to my ntsf drives...but I have a spare 20 gigger I can use for nothing but data so I can move files back and forth
[12:53] <thatGuy_> gnomef: just wanna tell you completely COMPLETE these directions are on the wiki about restricted formats. LOVE IT
[12:53] <thatGuy_> gnomefreak ^^^
[12:53] <coz_> ALERT! /dev/sda does not exist      /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[12:53] <thatGuy_> poningru_ ^^^
[12:54] <bimberi> !ext3
[12:54] <ubotu> I guess ext3 is a filesystem that Linux can be installed on and can be read/written from Windows via http://www.fs-driver.org
[12:54] <bimberi> Beawolfe: ^^^^^ is another option
[12:54] <liquidindian> How can I check a symbolic link in the terminal?
[12:55] <hachre> liquidindian: ls -l /path/to/the/link | grep -i nameofthelink
[12:55] <_JuDgEn_> ln-s
[12:55] <bimberi> liquidindian: 'ls -l link' will show you where it points to
[12:55] <Beawolfe> bimberi..... All I have to do is mark the drive from both OS's as a shared drive right?
[12:55] <liquidindian> Thanks!
[12:55] <thatGuy_> thatGuy_: test
[12:56] <bimberi> Beawolfe: yes, you get each OS to mount the drive.  Is this a dualboot setup?
[12:58] <thatGuy_> !ext3
[12:58] <ubotu> I guess ext3 is a filesystem that Linux can be installed on and can be read/written from Windows via http://www.fs-driver.org
[12:59] <Beawolfe> bimberi...yes it is a dual boot system
[01:00] <bimberi> Beawolfe: kk - i think my advice is ok then :)
[01:01] <Beawolfe> I have been trying to get Captive-Static to install tonight but to no avail
[01:01] <Frogzoo> !captive
[01:01] <ubotu> methinks captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[01:02] <Beawolfe> okay Thanx
[01:03] <Beawolfe> will just install the spare drive so I can quit writing dvd -r's to move files of of the Ubuntu drive
[01:03] <spikeb> yeah use ext3 or fat32 for a shared drive
[01:04] <Beawolfe> Okay Thanx!
[01:05] <needlz_> captive works on ubuntu :)
[01:06] <hachre> !captive
[01:06] <ubotu> captive is, like, totally, a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[01:06] <needlz_> oh
[01:06] <hachre> :P
[01:06] <Beawolfe> Someone early yesterday morning told me that was what I needed to write to a ntfs drive
[01:06] <needlz_> ill ask my room mate in a few hours
[01:06] <needlz_> i KNOW he uses captive
[01:06] <needlz_> :)
[01:06] <hachre> hehe
[01:06] <needlz_> hes a fcking dual boot'er :P
[01:06] <liquidindian> I'm trying to run a script to start a game, but it won't execute with bash...
[01:06] <needlz_> liquidindian: pastebin.ca
[01:07] <needlz_> paste the code
[01:07] <Beawolfe> it is just alot easier to format a drive with fat32 and use it for storage between the two
[01:07] <needlz_> or paste the error message
[01:07] <Frogzoo> would be nice to how one defines "does not work properly" - this implies it could seem to work, but have some obscure bug that will screw all your data
[01:07] <_JuDgEn_> needlz_ just use the extdriver for windows instead
[01:07] <_JuDgEn_> n00b
[01:07] <_JuDgEn_> its faster
[01:08] <needlz_> n00b? im not using windows at all
[01:08] <_JuDgEn_> hehe
[01:08] <hachre> lol
[01:08] <hachre> why is a windows user a noob?
[01:08] <needlz_> and btw, i would call anyone a n00b with YOUR nick
[01:08] <_JuDgEn_> needlz_ im just yakin ya =)
[01:08] <needlz_> hachre: i didnt say that :)
[01:08] <hachre> :)
[01:08] <Frogzoo> hachre: all doze users are noobs, that's why they use windows :)
[01:08] <Beawolfe> needlz...I am a f**king daul booter for now also....just installed ubuntu 2 days ago and still trying to learn the OS
[01:08] <_JuDgEn_> needlz_ i have had this nick since the tims of the bbs systems
[01:08] <Beawolfe> dual even
[01:08] <needlz_> Beawolfe: c'mon, dont take it personal, i was just kidding :)
[01:09] <Frogzoo> !tell Beawolfe about docs
[01:09] <bimberi> Frogzoo: the factoid is probably getting out of date - i recall the dapper install offers ntfs write if it finds an ntfs partition (with warnings)
[01:09] <needlz_> _JuDgEn_: heh alright
[01:09] <Frogzoo> bimberi: cool, in a scary kind of way
[01:09] <_JuDgEn_> atm, im using BeOS =))
[01:09] <_JuDgEn_> beos can also use ext volumes... really nice
[01:09] <bimberi> Frogzoo: :)
[01:10] <Beawolfe> Frogzoo.......I have been all over wiki trying to find answers the last 2 days now
[01:10] <_JuDgEn_> gonna play some quake3 soon in BeOS =) (just recently releasede) only five years or so after windows and the first release of quake3 for beos
[01:11] <_JuDgEn_> Beawolfe what do you need?
[01:12] <Beawolfe> I have had alot of problems just trying to get stuff to install to the OS.....Captive-Static is the last one I needed to install for now.........and once I do get stuff installed how can I get it on the menu system for use?
[01:13] <natta> hi really silly q: how do i make 'cp' copy hidden folders?
[01:13] <Beawolfe> I installed dvdrtools but cant find it now or run it at all
[01:13] <MrTrick> I want to save the exact state of my system before I make some changes - a full backup, of course. Is there a tool in the repository to do this?
[01:13] <MrTrick> [That 'search' function in the application installer is useless, TBH] 
[01:14] <kingspawn> natta: cp -a
[01:14] <needlz_> alright, i asked my room mate, and he said that he's using captive on ubuntu 5.10...and had no problems installing it ;x
[01:14] <FearMoth> should /etc/inetd.conf be empty in dapper?
[01:15] <FearMoth> (with a clean install, i mean)
[01:15] <Beawolfe> needlz...I have both the .mo file and the tar.gz file and cant get either one to install
[01:16] <diffe> [Spooky] ,  se p fan, s du hnger hr med :P
[01:19] <hachre> FearMoth: if you dont have inetd installed
[01:19] <hachre> inetutils-inetd
[01:19] <skpl> has anyone here gotten itunes to run in ubuntu?
[01:19] <hachre> ITUNES?
[01:19] <skpl> itunes.
[01:20] <hachre> what kind of an idea is that
[01:20] <skpl> i guess a stupid one
[01:20] <needlz_> Beawolfe: uhm, whats the error message?
[01:20] <hachre> itunes is for os x and windows
[01:20] <hachre> :)
[01:20] <hachre> if you want a player with similar features use rhythmbox
[01:20] <hachre> or amarok in kde
[01:21] <GreySim> skpl: No.  If you're interested in rough equivalents Rhythmbox, Banshee, and I guess Amarok would be good choices to look at.
[01:21] <FearMoth> thanks
[01:21] <chx> I would like to offer a helping hand and would be happy to offer (for free, of course) Ubuntu CDs in Hungary. Where should I enlist? :)
[01:21] <hachre> chx: I think it's best to ask somewhere on the forums at www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:22] <Beawolfe> needlz "no default action for that location"
[01:22] <hachre> Beawolfe: you are trying to double click it?
[01:22] <Beawolfe> no I have tried through the terminal to get it to run
[01:23] <hachre> Beawolfe: if its a .tar.bz2 you need to extract it
[01:23] <hachre> Beawolfe: using tar xvjf filename.tar.bz2
[01:25] <spikeb> amarok is a good equivilent feature wise, although not interface wise
[01:25] <Sir_X> What would you suggest: enabling catch-all at my ISP and have the mail sorted out locally or creating a popbox for each user at my ISP pull it directly through fetchmail and postfix to the correct user
[01:25] <Beawolfe> it says it isnt a bzip2 file
[01:26] <hachre> Beawolfe: whats its exact name?
[01:28] <Beawolfe> captive-static-1.1.7.tar.gz
[01:28] <hachre> Beawolfe: oh
[01:28] <ubuntu_user``> i have problems, because ubuntu cannot handle correctly "cp1251" encoded text. anyone with the same problem?
[01:28] <hachre> Beawolfe: then you need tar xvzf file.tar.gz2
[01:28] <hachre> Beawolfe: err
[01:28] <hachre> Beawolfe: .gz
[01:28] <hachre> Beawolfe: tar xvzf file.tar.gz and tar xvjf file.tar.bz2
[01:29] <hachre> Beawolfe: x stands for eXtract, v stands for Verbose, z for extracting gZ, f for File
[01:30] <taran> hello
[01:30] <Beawolfe> oaky it extarcted...to where I dont know but it says it extacted
[01:30] <ReD_BuLLeT> hello , i have a quastion please tell me how can i change the premmisons of the files ?
[01:31] <hachre> Beawolfe: well there should be alot of files displayed on your screen
[01:31] <taran> hello guys i have a problem
[01:31] <Sir_X> ReD_BuLLeT: chmod permissions file
[01:31] <hachre> Beawolfe: it always extracts into the directory you start the command in
[01:31] <Beawolfe> only three
[01:31] <taran> gnome.pm problem
[01:31] <hachre> Beawolfe: those are the files you extracted
[01:32] <needlz_> heh
[01:32] <hachre> Beawolfe: i dont know anything about captive though so i cant help you further
[01:32] <taran> how can get this gnome.pm to install on my ubuntu
[01:32] <needlz_> Beawolfe: lol
[01:32] <needlz_> unpacked it now?
[01:33] <bliss1_> hi
[01:33] <bliss1_> ompaul: its ok
[01:33] <sneex> is there a way to get gnome to execute certain programms on log out?
[01:33] <ompaul> bliss1_, you got sorted, my isp thought it was fun to break my connection
[01:34] <Beawolfe> it did extract to the desktop where I had it and it had an install file in the folder......tried to run it in file browser and nothing happened
[01:34] <bliss1_> ompaul; yes i did sack then you have the power
[01:34] <needlz_> Beawolfe: open a shell
[01:34] <bliss1_> ompaul; zen rule ok
[01:34] <needlz_> and type: cd <your captive dir>
[01:34] <Beawolfe> you mean the terminal?
[01:34] <needlz_> and read the INSTALL file
[01:34] <needlz_> yeah
[01:35] <needlz_> hold on, ill download it and read it for you ;>
[01:35] <bliss1_> ompaul; if i have postfix a nd i close it for say a day will the mails commig in get returned
[01:35] <Beawolfe> I found it
[01:35] <needlz_> k
[01:35] <needlz_> pico INSTALL
[01:35] <needlz_> anything special mentioned in it?
[01:36] <ompaul> bliss1_, unless there is a host that will hold them for you - a secondary mx
[01:36] <needlz_> oh
[01:36] <Beawolfe> it gives me a text file
[01:36] <needlz_> there isnt a INSTALL file at all
[01:36] <needlz_> ok
[01:36] <needlz_> then
[01:36] <needlz_> try
[01:36] <needlz_> ./install
[01:36] <needlz_> err, sudo ./install
[01:36] <bliss1_> ompaul: i do not have a 2nd mx record
[01:37] <alberto> first time using xchat
[01:38] <bliss1_> ompaul: maybe on my isp's  inbox i have a smtp feed
[01:38] <ompaul> bliss1_, not unless it is documented :-/
[01:39] <bliss1_> ompaul in other words they will bounce!!!!!!!!!
[01:40] <Beawolfe> it says too few arguments
[01:40] <bliss1_> ompaul; in the words of that alki god Elvis return to sender address unknown
[01:41] <hajuu> bliss1_,
[01:41] <hajuu> lay off the drugs
[01:41] <hajuu> I mean come on
[01:41] <hajuu> alki king elvis?
[01:42] <hajuu> poodle swizzle table to you too
[01:42] <bliss1_> hajuu: kicks him in the head
[01:42] <bigfoot1> where's my java directory?
[01:42] <needlz_> Beawolfe: hm
[01:43] <bliss1_> bliss1- tells himself to behave
[01:43] <needlz_> you typed: "sudo ./install" in the captive directory?
[01:43] <kevinz> what's the default vnc server in ubuntu? I found that it is automatically on and guard the display :0
[01:43] <Beawolfe> oh well I think it is time I give up for the day and get some sleep and try again when I get up.................Thanx for all the help!
[01:43] <ompaul> bliss1_, heh, I would not have gone that far
[01:43] <scenestar> i know that debian binaries are incompatible with ubuntu but can i still use debian src repos for apt-build dep
[01:44] <needlz_> Beawolfe: mhm prolly, i cant even find the error message in the "install" script ;)
[01:44] <ompaul> bliss1_, but RTS is the way
[01:44] <bliss1_> ompaul; RTS?
[01:45] <Beawolfe> Thanx Again All!
[01:45] <ompaul> bliss1_,  return to sender
[01:45] <scenestar> hmmm
[01:45] <scenestar> anyone?
[01:46] <kroiz> Hi, how can I upgrade qt lib to 4.1.2? please
[01:46] <scenestar> build it from source kroiz
[01:46] <bliss1_> ompaul: how can i install 6.0.6 directly from the internet
[01:46] <scenestar> ompaul as in?
[01:46] <scenestar> a net install?
[01:46] <kroiz> I could not find it
[01:46] <kroiz> is it the troll tech
[01:46] <ompaul> bliss1_, net install is in the wiki
[01:47] <bliss1_> ompaul: which one
[01:47] <scenestar> kroiz
[01:47] <scenestar> http://freshmeat.net/redir/qt/8673/url_tgz/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.1.2.tar.gz
[01:47] <scenestar> wget http://freshmeat.net/redir/qt/8673/url_tgz/qt-x11-opensource-src-4.1.2.tar.gz
[01:47] <kroiz> wow thanks alot
[01:47] <scenestar> ./configure && make && make install
[01:47] <scenestar> as root
[01:48] <scenestar> allthough its probably best you check the docs and use checkinstall
[01:48] <ompaul> bliss1_, on the page the bot sent you -- then there is this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[01:49] <kroiz> I dont know what is checkinstall but I will sure read the docs
[01:49] <bliss1_> ompaul: thanks does this make sence it you have a large swap partition you can have more virtual memory?
[01:49] <scenestar> kroiz it keeps track of installed files with make in apt
[01:50] <ompaul> scenestar, kfoiz >>sudo './configure && make && make install'<<
[01:50] <kroiz> is this tar is with the full sdk?
[01:50] <scenestar> sudo or su
[01:50] <scenestar> same thing
[01:50] <ompaul> bliss1_, the suggested size is 2.5 times or there abouts your actual ram -
[01:50] <ompaul> scenestar, they are not
[01:50] <scenestar> ompaul im not having this discussion with you
[01:50] <ompaul> scenestar, this distro uses sudo
[01:51] <scenestar> says who
[01:51] <ompaul> its in its design spec
[01:51] <ompaul> !root
[01:51] <scenestar> link me
[01:51] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:51] <bliss1_> ompaul: how does your os allocate RAM to swap is it automatic?
[01:51] <ompaul> bliss1_, automagic
[01:52] <ompaul> bliss1_, how much ram have you got?
[01:53] <scenestar> bliss1_ : cat /proc/meminfo
[01:53] <bliss1_> ompaul: total 768mb but i think at the moment free says 710mb
[01:54] <ompaul> bliss1_, betweek 1.5G and 2G should be enough for you, if you get anything close to to those levels of use you have serious issues :)
[01:54] <bliss1_> scenestar; thanks
[01:55] <scenestar> bliss1_ : you're welcome
[01:56] <bliss1_> ompaul; serious issues/ just kill -9 does the job sometimes
[01:56] <thatGuy_> does external display work on ubuntu?
[01:56] <scenestar> thatGuy_ what
[01:56] <scenestar> be more specific
[01:56] <thatGuy_> like on a laptop
[01:56] <thatGuy_> using an external monitor
[01:56] <scenestar> depends on the chipset
[01:56] <scenestar> xorg version
[01:56] <bliss1_> scenestar; well now i am worried
[01:56] <scenestar> and xgl yadda yadda
[01:56] <scenestar> bliss1_ why?
[01:57] <thatGuy_> so xgl effects it?
[01:57] <scenestar> thatGuy_  depends
[01:57] <thatGuy_> settign that up, will it help it or prolly create a problem?
[01:57] <thatGuy_> ci did want to do that eventually also
[01:57] <scenestar> it will not make it easies
[01:58] <NickGarvey> how would I log someone out over an SSH session?
[01:58] <scenestar> NickGarvey : logout?
[01:58] <bliss1_> scenestar: http://pastebin.ca/50914
[01:59] <scenestar> just a seconf
[01:59] <scenestar> my dns is trippin
[01:59] <iwalker> "Never fear, I is here"
[01:59] <NickGarvey> scenestar: yeah, I want to log in over vnc but it flips out because I am on screen 0 also
[02:00] <scenestar> errrrr
[02:00] <scenestar> i dont get it
[02:00] <scenestar> how can you be logged in to an xserver over ssh?
[02:00] <NickGarvey> there is a user on, that I want to log out
[02:00] <scenestar> sudo killall gdm
[02:00] <scenestar> over ssh
[02:00] <NickGarvey> no, I have ssh connection, I want to log on over vnc, but I can't because I am logged on the local machine also
[02:00] <NickGarvey> ah ha genius
[02:00] <NickGarvey> thank you
[02:00] <Sionide> scenestar, using -XC you can run X stuff over ssh:) i do it all the time, the server needs to be properly configged
[02:01] <scenestar> Sionide you mean have it use the local xserver?
[02:01] <Sionide> yeah i dunno how it works, but it's cool
[02:01] <scenestar> i dunno
[02:01] <scenestar> dont really use it
[02:01] <scenestar> i have synergy
[02:02] <scenestar> but i prefer ssh
[02:02] <Sionide> i can run bluefish from my web server, which is nice
[02:02] <scenestar> use VI
[02:02] <scenestar> like a real man
[02:02] <Sionide> pfft, no i dun like VI much
[02:02] <scenestar> it has a steep learning curve
[02:03] <bliss1_> scenestar: your busy right now but the pastebin is a few screens up
[02:03] <idefix_> with a bash-script I want the seventeenth argument with "$17" but it gives me not the 17th argument but argument 1 followed with a 7, how do I fix this? $(17) doesn't work
[02:03] <scenestar> yeah, ever since i got this new cable modem i have a hard time resolving dns
[02:03] <_jason> idefix_: ${17}
[02:03] <_jason> i think
[02:03] <ompaul> scenestar, mind if I pm you?
[02:03] <Sir_X> Guys (and girls): what would you suggest: enabling catch-all at my ISP and have the mail sorted out locally or creating a popbox for each user at my ISP pull it directly through fetchmail and postfix to the correct user
[02:04] <scenestar> ompaul cool
[02:05] <PaoloC> Hi all, I'm on dapper. Does anybody have a list of application that are strongly suggested on a desktop?
[02:06] <ompaul> PaoloC, hiya channel #buntu+1 for that one :-)
[02:06] <scenestar> beep media player, amsn
[02:06] <scenestar> yeah
[02:06] <ompaul> PaoloC, is there a #ubuntu+1 even :-)
[02:07] <scenestar> dapper is pretty hot
[02:07] <nick_> only problem is, when I started it ip again the user auto logged in
[02:07] <nick_> so I need to log him out not kill x
[02:07] <nick_> is there just a command that would do it?
[02:08] <scenestar> nick_ good one, let me get my big ole book on unix
[02:08] <AngryElf> nick_,  you need to stop auto-login?
[02:09] <sufa> hey, where can i add deb sources, not through synaptic
[02:09] <AngryElf> sufa, /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:09] <sufa> i want to add multiverse so i can apt-get mplayer
[02:09] <scenestar> nick_ open a terminal
[02:09] <scenestar> do su
[02:09] <scenestar> and make it say
[02:09] <scenestar> logout
[02:10] <nick_> "Not a login shell"
[02:10] <scenestar> then do ctrl shift f1
[02:10] <scenestar> login as that user
[02:10] <scenestar> and that would be retarded
[02:10] <scenestar> nvm
[02:10] <nick_> remote machine
[02:10] <nick_> I need to kick him over ssh
[02:11] <sufa> thank you AngryElf
[02:11] <bliss1_> ompaul: did you see the patebin
[02:11] <scenestar> bliss1_ nothing wrong with that
[02:11] <ompaul> bliss1_, when did you send it?
[02:12] <bliss1_> scenestar: ok but then you did get my pm or not
[02:12] <ompaul> scenestar, is it possible to look at your ubotu pms :-) the list is full
[02:13] <scenestar> bliss1_ : negative
[02:13] <nick_> logout username doesn't work..
[02:13] <ompaul> bliss_ you need to register with nickserv
[02:13] <ompaul> !register
[02:13] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:13] <ompaul> bliss1_,  ^^^
[02:13] <bliss1_> scenestar: ok I think ompaul has the soultion
[02:14] <scenestar> hmm ok
[02:14] <scenestar> im kinda busy atm, i need to see which router to buy today
[02:14] <graveson1> can someone please recommend a good torrent client for ubuntu
[02:15] <scenestar> ktorrent
[02:15] <bliss1_> scenestar; i want to free as much RAM as possible i am going to make a swap partition then run qemu with kqemu emlators
[02:15] <bliss1_> emulators
[02:15] <scenestar> and not have it max out 100 percent cpu?
[02:16] <bliss1_> yes
[02:16] <apokryphos> ubotu: torrent clients is <reply> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)
[02:16] <ubotu> okay, apokryphos
[02:16] <scenestar> ah cool, ive been working on a load balancing system for quemu
[02:16] <scenestar> is this for a production server or just home?
[02:16] <bliss1_> scenestar; can you pastebin it please
[02:17] <scenestar> sorry, no
[02:17] <scenestar> its a big project for a foundation
[02:17] <bliss1_> scenestar; home, no is it private
[02:17] <bliss1_> i will sign the offical secrets acy!
[02:17] <bliss1_> act
[02:17] <scenestar> well really, why exactly do you need it for
[02:18] <bliss1_> scenestar; its for a project i am doing for my MSc
[02:18] <scenestar> isnt a chroot or jail sufficient?
[02:19] <scenestar> i only use vms for VPS systems or database servers
[02:19] <Sir_X> graveson1 what's wrong with the bittorrent client that's included?
[02:20] <bliss1_> vms is fine
[02:20] <bliss1_> i will run it out of sarge on a no X box
[02:21] <nick_> bah I can't get it
[02:21] <nick_> seems so simple..
[02:21] <graveson1> Sir_X: i am looking for one that has commmand line functions as well
[02:22] <scenestar> ah
[02:22] <idefix_> test
[02:22] <scenestar> in that case you want bittornado
[02:22] <nick_> btdownloadheadless :)
[02:22] <scenestar> or that other that was ncurses based, i cant remember the name though
[02:23] <donza> btdownloadcurses & btlaunchmanycurses
[02:24] <nick_> I think.. I need to kill everything that user is running
[02:25] <graveson1> donza:thank you
[02:26] <axisme> Hmm..having problems using CUPS. Since ubuntu uses sudo and cups requires the username and password of root, what do i enter in cups?
[02:26] <dtamas> I have installed dapper on my laptop, but the wifi doesn't work. Can anybody help me?
[02:26] <donza> graveson1: no problem
[02:26] <Emess> ok this is wierd, im isntalling ubuntu and when i get to the partitioning part it jsut repepatedly says 'Killed' and jsut keeps on repeating...
[02:26] <Emess> from the forums it seems to be a problem on computers with 64mb rasm...which is what this box has :(
[02:26] <sybariten> if anyone has good experience with drive-juggling between different servers, attaching cables like a maniac, mounting up, mounting down, adding space like a real freak, well then please take a look at my post at the forums:
[02:26] <sybariten> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=164915
[02:26] <sybariten> my problem is that i cant access a drive that was originally a system drive in an iMac (running linux)
[02:27] <Ap4ch3> sybariten is it using hpfs+?
[02:27] <nick_> I win
[02:27] <sybariten> Ap4ch3: thats a good question. What is it ?
[02:27] <sybariten> Ap4ch3: it is ext2 btw, as far as i know
[02:27] <Ap4ch3> its the default filesystem  type for osx
[02:28] <sybariten> Ap4ch3: running linux
[02:28] <PaoloC> does anybody know how to play video from www.repubblica.it?
[02:28] <ompaul> Emess, that is so small I don't think you will get much use out of that install, that is a very low spec machine I would suggest that you use DSL (damn small linux) or install server first and see if you can get xubuntu-desktop working on it - its really low on resources
[02:28] <lflashl> HOW DO I MOUNT MY FLASH DRIVE
[02:29] <pierre-> lflashl: just plug it in
[02:29] <zyth> Is a g3/400mhz powerbook with 384 mb ram worth running ubuntu on?
[02:29] <lflashl> yea and then what?
[02:29] <pierre-> lflashl: then wait and that's all
[02:29] <Codename_V> zyth: depends on what you want to do with it
[02:30] <lflashl> call thanks
[02:30] <zyth> Codename_V, same stuff I'm doing in OS X.  irc, email, web, some older gaming (diablo, diablo 2, warcraft 2, obviously in Linux it'd be different games)
[02:30] <lflashl> can i install ubuntu on my 512MB flash drive?
[02:31] <Codename_V> zyth: should work alright.  if it works at all.  linux can be problematic on some macs.
[02:31] <lflashl> juat wnt ut as a network o/s with no X install
[02:31] <zyth> Codename_V, the livecd booted 100% fine and detected all my stuff.. it was just kludgy, but I only have a 2x dvd drive
[02:31] <pip> hello,everyone
[02:31] <Emess> ompaul: its a good system, jsut low on ram. it wont run DSL (monitor rejects the resolution it uses) but its failing on partitioning, not the actual OS
[02:32] <pip> can I compile C# souce file on ubuntu ?
[02:33] <slackern> !b-e
[02:33] <Codename_V> pip: sure
[02:33] <ubotu> somebody said b-e was no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.
[02:33] <Emess> i guess il see if it can run vector....
[02:33] <pip> Codename_V, Thank you! I love ubuntu more and more,so can you tell me how to do it ?
[02:34] <Codename_V> pip: get mono and compile your junk.  it's pretty simple.  course if it uses windows forms or whatever it probably won't work too well.  a simple console app would be no problem.
[02:34] <ompaul> Emess, for dsl start the boot with vga=771
[02:34] <Codename_V> and that .net web stuff, I really couldn't say where that's at.
[02:35] <PwcrLinux> oops, wrong parted chan..
[02:35] <Emess> ok, DSL works now, but that doesnt really get me anywhere with ubuntu
[02:36] <ompaul> Emess, how big is the drive?
[02:36] <pip> Codename_V, you mean it doesnot support C# well enough,right?
[02:36] <Emess> 10GB
[02:37] <bina> i am unable to boot my Xp from GRUB
[02:37] <Codename_V> pip: nope.  c# in its entirety is certainly supported
[02:37] <bina> even Xp alone
[02:37] <ubuntu> hello
[02:37] <ompaul> Emess, whats on it?
[02:37] <Codename_V> pip: it's just the .net libraries that would perhaps be missing.
[02:37] <Emess> 2GB of windows stuff
[02:37] <Codename_V> pip: in particular the one for doing windows guis is rather lacking from what I hear.
[02:37] <bina> any one free to help me here?
[02:38] <Codename_V> bina: what's it tell ya?
[02:38] <zyth> bina, XP doesn't like not being on the first partition, as I recall.
[02:38] <ompaul> Emess, partition wise what do you want to do with it
[02:38] <[hicken> hello, is this chat channel friendly to niggers such as myself? Is this a nigger friendly chat channel?
[02:38] <pip> Codename_V, OK! I see,then how do you find pnet?
[02:38] <ubuntu> Somebody Speak spanish?
[02:38] <bina> i hav three hdd
[02:39] <Codename_V> pip: come again?  find pnet?
[02:39] <[hicken> hello, is this channel a member of the nigger friendly chat channel commission?
[02:39] <bina> i just changed some grub xp settings
[02:39] <[hicken> hello, is this channel a member of the nigger friendly chat channel commission?
[02:39] <[hicken> hello, is this chat channel friendly to niggers such as myself?
[02:39] <Codename_V> yikes.
[02:39] <bina> from that time i am unable to boot it directly from BIOS too
[02:39] <bina> before that i can boot my Xp from BIOS
[02:40] <pip> Codename_V, dont you know pnet,another project which is like mono project?
[02:40] <Codename_V> pip: nah, sorry.  never heard of it.
[02:40] <Emess> ompaul: its empty now, 9.6GB ext3 and 512MB of swap
[02:41] <pip> Codename_V, Thank you !
[02:41] <bina> Codeman: do u have any idea???
[02:41] <ompaul> Emess, so try to do a server install from the off
[02:42] <bigfoot1> i get a "Starting PCMCIA devices          Failed" . I don't have any. so how can i turn this off?
[02:42] <Codename_V> bina: spose if you gave me a look at your grub config file that might help.  but just to head it off at that pass, don't paste it here.
[02:42] <Emess> ompaul: server misntall? off?
[02:42] <LadyNikon> Why hasn't [hicken been banned yet?
[02:42] <idefix_> how do you block out lines in bash-shell?
[02:42] <Warbo> bigfoot1: You could try using BUM (Boot Up Manager) but it crashes on me for some reason
[02:43] <LadyNikon> oh nevermind he cant speak anymore yay
[02:43] <Codename_V> bina: but then it would probably be kinda helpful if you'd go ahead and answer my original question, namely what's it say when you try and boot windows?
[02:43] <ompaul> Emess, as the machine boots, it pauses, type server and work away from there
[02:43] <Emess> ah, ok il try that
[02:43] <Codename_V> bina: but heck, not having windows isn't so bad.  least you can surf the web still, play some poker, read your email, etc.
[02:43] <fyrestrtr> bigfoot1: sudo update-rc.d -f pcmcia stop
[02:43] <Codename_V> don't even run windows myself.
[02:44] <fyrestrtr> bigfoot1: sorry, stop should be remove
[02:44] <fyrestrtr> bigfoot1: sudo update-rc.d -f pcmcia remove :)
[02:45] <Sonderblade> is there a way with ubuntu to return a computer to a "pristine state"? i want to clear a box so that everything on it is exactly like it was after i installed ubuntu server on it
[02:45] <Akaishi> are the universe and multiverse repos down?
[02:46] <Frogzoo> Sonderblade: formate/reinstall?
[02:47] <Sonderblade> Frogzoo:  yeah, except that i don't wanna do a whole reinstallation. I need to be able to do this over ssh
[02:47] <sufa> anyone ever have problems with vlc like being very jumpy when playing a dvd?
[02:47] <Emess> ompaul: now its giving a segmentation fault on teh drive at partition stage
[02:47] <orbin> sufa: enabled dma?
[02:48] <Warbo> sufa: Only on a slow laptop
[02:48] <joelbryan> hello, does mpg and mp3 works in fresh install dapper?
[02:48] <fyrestrtr> joelbryan: no
[02:48] <fyrestrtr> !mp3
[02:48] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:48] <Warbo> joelbryan: Not in fresh install, but it is easy to enable
[02:48] <ompaul> Emess, while the machine your on is way below spec - I would now suspect the media more than anything
[02:48] <sufa> orbin,  how do i enable dma
[02:48] <joelbryan> ok thanks
[02:48] <Frogzoo> sufa: DMA enabled?
[02:48] <orbin> ubotu: tell sufa about dma
[02:49] <sufa> Warbo,  mplayer plays it fine but it cant see my sound device
[02:49] <Frogzoo> !dma
[02:49] <Frogzoo> !tell sufa about dma
[02:49] <Emess> il try a reburn then...
[02:49] <joelbryan> what are other file format that is not supported in dapper? (and can be installed in synaptics)
[02:49] <joelbryan> !mpg
[02:49] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, joelbryan
[02:49] <sufa> thanks guys
[02:49] <Warbo> sufa: If your PC is up to spec then I think it is the vlc engine. Try going through the preferences and seeing if you can "turn down" anything
[02:50] <fyrestrtr> !tell joelbryan about RestrictedFormats
[02:50] <joelbryan> wow thanks!
[02:50] <Akaishi> I tend to have better luck with dvd using xine
[02:50] <Frogzoo> Sonderblade: if you had multiple disks, you could boot a backup os, & dump the disk image back in place with dd - though you'd need to do a fresh install to make the image of course
[02:51] <Frogzoo> Sonderblade: actually, just one disk needed, just multiple bootable partitions
[02:51] <Warbo> I use a "proper" dvd palyer or a ps2, if I use a PC then I like Ogle because it is simple and supports menus well
[02:51] <spikeb> speaking of vlc, it'd be nice if there was a safari plugin
[02:52] <Akaishi> are universe/multiverse down or is my install getting ready to die on me?
[02:52] <Emess> ompaul: thanks, i think iv found the problem, it was burned at 16x the first time insteadc of 4x, il see how it goes after reburning
[02:52] <ompaul> Emess, good luck
[02:53] <sufa> wow, that worked beautifully :-) thanks guys
[02:54] <Sonderblade> Frogzoo:  why can't i just sudo apt-get make-it-clean-and-good? much easier
[02:55] <joelbryan> !mpg
[02:55] <ubotu> joelbryan: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:55] <Warbo> Sonderblade: You could sudo apt-get install your-custom-fresh-install-package which conflicts with everything not in a fresh install but depends on everything that is in the installer. I don't know much about making custom deb packages though
[02:55] <freezey> hey guys whats a good FTP service for linux
[02:55] <_jason> ubotu: tell joelbryan about multimedia
[02:55] <kingspawn> freezey: Like a daemon? ProFTPD is nice.
[02:56] <idefix_> what is [hicken] ? a racist?
[02:56] <Warbo> idefix_: I asuume so
[02:56] <Sonderblade> Warbo: to complicated
[02:56] <freezey> kingspawn: is it good for like setting up outside accounts and allowing them to login and retrieve certain files and what not
[02:56] <Warbo> Sonderblade: Exactly, just fresh install it.
[02:56] <kingspawn> freezey: Well, every ftp daemon does that, but yes, it's pretty easy to get the hang of
[02:56] <freezey> kingspawn: ok thanks king
[02:57] <freezey> kingspawn: is it in synaptic?
[02:57] <orbin> idefix_: what'd he/she do?
[02:57] <kingspawn> freezey: Should be
[02:57] <Warbo> Sonderblade: Sysnaptic can save a package setup, so if you did that after install you could reload it and apply. I've never used that feature though
[02:58] <Sonderblade> Warbo: will that delete stuff like additional home directories etc?
[02:58] <kameleons> hello what is comand unistall  mplayer?
[02:59] <Warbo> Sonderblade: No, just stuff from packages
[02:59] <Warbo> kameleons: sudo apt-get uninstall mplayer
[02:59] <fyrestrtr> kameleons: sudo apt-get remove mplayer
[02:59] <_jason> kameleons: you can use synaptic and remove it, it should be mplayer-<arch>
[02:59] <Sonderblade> Warbo: then its no good
[02:59] <Warbo> fyrestrtr: REMOVE! What was I thinking?
[02:59] <Warbo> Anyway, got to go now. Bye
[03:01] <AnsiC> hello
[03:01] <MrMist> Hi all
[03:01] <MrMist> hmm... I've got a small question...
[03:02] <apokryphos> MrMist: shoot
[03:02] <MrMist> Why can't people get MySQL 5.0 from the apt-get system ?
[03:02] <Frogzoo> Sonderblade: what you don't realise is that apt does more than just sparf packages to disk - it also tweaks config files & symlinks. It gets pretty complicated testing to make sure upgrades work, to get downgrades to work would be a lot of effort for no good reason. Also, apt has no knowledge of files installed without its knowledge, so things like home directories are right out
[03:03] <kingspawn> Anyone know of a good stream ripper?
[03:03] <Frogzoo> MrMist: so do most people in chan, but they advertise it by saying what their problem is
[03:04] <MrMist> The question came... gotta look a bit closer
[03:04] <Eppu> kingspawn: mplayer? It can "rip" anything it can play
[03:04] <kingspawn> Eppu: Might be worth a look into, thanks.
[03:04] <Frogzoo> kingspawn: probly vlc is what you need
[03:05] <freezey> kingspawn: hhmm doesn't show up synaptic
[03:05] <kingspawn> Frogzoo: Thinking about ripping some good stuff off of www.di.fm
[03:05] <kingspawn> Maybe I wasn't exactly making myself clear
[03:06] <axisme> mrmist
[03:06] <axisme> client or server?
[03:07] <AnsiC> apt-get install toolchain-source
[03:07] <AnsiC> tpkg-install i*86-linux OR tpkg-install i686-linux ??
[03:07] <AnsiC> i must write * or i must substitute * whit the value
[03:07] <AnsiC> ???
[03:07] <axisme> if server sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.0
[03:07] <MrMist> axisme: huh !? There's no mysql-server-5.0 package ?
[03:07] <axisme> if client sudo apt-get install mysql-client-5.0
[03:08] <kingspawn> AnsiC: You should be able to use *
[03:08] <axisme> oh im using dapper drake
[03:08] <MrMist> perhaps you're using Dapper... I'm still on breezy
[03:08] <ompaul> !dapper
[03:08] <axisme> dunno if its in breezy
[03:08] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[03:08] <axisme> have a search for it in synaptic
[03:08] <freezey> isn't dapper drake already releaser
[03:08] <freezey> released
[03:08] <ompaul> axisme, >>cat /etc/issue<< that will tell you
[03:08] <ompaul> freezey, no its not
[03:08] <freezey> they are comin out with a newer version than that
[03:08] <freezey> ompaul: yeah it is its
[03:08] <AnsiC> of course i can use *
[03:08] <AnsiC> but what is correct ?
[03:08] <freezey> ompaul: my friend is running on it already
[03:09] <AnsiC> tpkg create a package whit the targat append
[03:09] <freezey> ompaul: ubuntu's designers are releasing a newer version than that
[03:09] <AnsiC> but is important what i append
[03:09] <MrMist> took about 30 minutes to compiles MySQL5
[03:09] <ompaul> freezey, okay let me put it this way, its in beta and anyone on the planet can use it
[03:09] <_jason> freezey: official release hasn't been made, that's June 1st.  You can always run the devel version
[03:09] <sybariten> why is it that sudo apt-cache search midnight doesnt show midnight commander ?
[03:09] <freezey> ompaul: that comes with a whole lot more things... XGL will be included
[03:09] <AnsiC> becouse the script that i applies to this paackages after
[03:09] <AnsiC> use it
[03:09] <ompaul> freezey, that will be the octobet release
[03:09] <AnsiC> is a toolchain
[03:09] <sybariten> do i need to change the sources list from a fresh ubuntu server install ?
[03:09] <axisme> dunno what to say mrmist, its in dapper drake :-)
[03:10] <_jason> !info mc
[03:10] <ubotu> mc: (midnight commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2048 kB, Installed size: 5712 kB
[03:10] <AnsiC> if i use 686 after the package is named
[03:10] <_jason> ubotu: tell sybariten about universe
[03:10] <AnsiC> fooi686-i386
[03:10] <dwa> ok, dumb question: i need to enter some exotic commands for ndiswrapper at boot time, where do i put those so they execute automatically every time?
[03:10] <sybariten> _jason: thank you
[03:10] <_jason> sybariten: erm, do you have X?
[03:10] <AnsiC> and that is strange
[03:10] <sybariten> _jason: no, why ?
[03:10] <dwa> they require sudo
[03:11] <_jason> sybariten: well, can you read the link ubotu provided ok?
[03:12] <sybariten> _jason: hey i've got computers high and low. I'm doing IRC from an XP computer for instance, so thats not a problem
[03:12] <_jason> sybariten: ok good, in case the wiki doesn't discuss how to do it with synaptic, just read the comments in /etc/apt/sources.list or you can just use the official sources ubotu provided for breezy (those give you multiverse which the comments don't include afaik)
[03:13] <_jason> s/with synaptic/without synaptic
[03:13] <freezey> with proftpd should i get using SRPMS or RPMS
[03:15] <sybariten> _jason: ok thanks! (repositories issues are so damn confusing ... why not just add as many servers as possible from the beginning?)
[03:15] <orbin> recommendations for text-mode web browsers?
[03:15] <_jason> ubotu: tell sybariten about components
[03:16] <Frogzoo> opening links appearing in irssi with firefox, can it be done?
[03:16] <_jason> Frogzoo: happens when I use gnome-terminal, I didn't change anything
[03:16] <kingspawn> sybariten: Hey, you got that disk working?
[03:16] <sybariten> kingspawn: nope :)
[03:17] <sybariten> kingspawn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=164915&highlight=ibm
[03:17] <jsmidt> Does anybody know when the 2.17 Kernal is supposed to be released?
[03:18] <paperinopaperoga> ciao
[03:18] <ompaul> !it
[03:18] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:18] <kingspawn> sybariten: Strange indeed. Have you tried gparted on it?
[03:18] <paperinopaperoga> grazie per l'indicazione
[03:19] <sybariten> kingspawn: no, i was advised to run parted to check the partition table, and also to do that with a working added 4gb slave drive, to compare how the partition tables look .... but after doing backiup of the big drive
[03:19] <sybariten> which is a big project of its own ofcourse
[03:19] <Edhunter> anyone with a D-Link G630 Wireless Network card?
[03:20] <kingspawn> sybariten: Heh, yeah
[03:20] <bliss1_> ompaul: do you think a xen install on sarge could be addopted to ubuntu
[03:20] <axisme> whats the problem, edhunter?
[03:20] <axisme> it shoudl work out of the box heh
[03:21] <Edhunter> i cant get it to work, i don't know how to install the drivers
[03:21] <flashman> Hello!
[03:21] <jsmidt> sorry I ment the 2.6.17 kernal release
[03:22] <axisme> you using breezy or dapper drake?
[03:22] <Edhunter> i've searched Madwifi and since i got the E version of the card i had to go to some other page to download a RT61 driver
[03:22] <Edhunter> that doesn't have any manual (yes i'm a noob ;) )
[03:23] <cratuki> I've just tried to eject a CDROM, and the process has hung and won't respond to kill signals.
[03:23] <kingspawn> cratuki: tried kill -9?
[03:23] <cratuki> Is there a way to enforce the kill, or to restart the bit of the kernel that controls that sort of thing?
[03:23] <cratuki> kingspawn: yes
[03:24] <axisme> edhunter
[03:24] <axisme> looks at your private messages
[03:24] <kingspawn> cratuki: Hm, strange
[03:24] <orbin> cratel1: sudo eject
[03:24] <cratuki> In my syslog it says stuff like "atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0)."
[03:25] <fyrestrtr> what kind of keyboard is it?
[03:25] <cratuki> orbin: I think if I do that then I'll have another hung process, this time as root.
[03:25] <cratuki> I don't think it's normal for a process to freeze and don't want to pick at it.
[03:25] <cratuki> Would rather .. find a way to fix it.
[03:26] <Frogzoo> cratuki: did you know there's a cdrom kernel module? you could try rmmod, modprobe  (& x your fingers)
[03:26] <joelbryan> !rm
[03:26] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, joelbryan
[03:26] <joelbryan> !ram
[03:26] <ubotu> joelbryan: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:27] <bliss1_> anybody taken a look at the 6.0.6 server
[03:27] <fyrestrtr> !tell joelbryan about realplayer
[03:27] <kingspawn> How does one go about mounting .bin and .cue?
[03:27] <Edhunter> axisme, does it work with pm?
[03:27] <fyrestrtr> kingspawn: using the mount command :)
[03:28] <Edhunter> i've sent some messages but don't know if they arrived?
[03:28] <kingspawn> fyrestrtr: ;) A little help on the syntax would be much appreciated, the iso9660 isn't doing me good
[03:28] <kingspawn> (since its not an iso...)
[03:28] <orbin> cratuki: how/why did you try and eject it in the first place?
[03:28] <Emess> ompaul: nope, when i do normal install it jsut repeats "killed" ans when i  do server it says "segmentation fault" i guess therses jsut not enough ram, it cant partition the drive
[03:29] <ompaul> Emess, dsl ? ;-)
[03:29] <Edhunter> "/msg ubotu
[03:29] <beerockxs> .
[03:29] <Emess> not going with DSL, i think it's gonna be vector or slack on this one
[03:29] <sybariten> anybody care to take a scientific approach at my repositories problems? heres a paste : http://pastebin.ca/raw/50927
[03:29] <sybariten> i am going crazy
[03:30] <cratuki> orbin: To see if it would.Basically I've had lots of problems with these CDROMs not playing nice with the system and this is the latest part of the problem.
[03:30] <kingspawn> fyrestrtr: It seems you cant mount a .bin without converting it to iso
[03:30] <Edhunter> axisme???
[03:30] <axisme> sorry on phone
[03:30] <axisme> one sec
[03:30] <orbin> cratuki: how did you try and eject it?
[03:30] <Emess> but i can see why my first disk didnt work, its got a completely see-thru chunk on it...
[03:30] <Edhunter> aha:) no problem;)
[03:31] <cratuki> orbin: 'eject /dev/hdb' which is the device for the cdrom.
[03:31] <sybariten> or, let me put it like this; anyone here running ubuntu server from the "red" disc and care to post their sources.list that is working ?
[03:32] <cratuki> orbin: hmm. I also have a stale mount command which I kicked off before the eject.
[03:32] <cratuki> mount /dev/hdb
[03:32] <orbin> cratuki: are you running gnome?
[03:32] <pricechild> hey all, could anyone help me with installing a new network card?
[03:32] <cratuki> orbin: yes
[03:33] <orbin> cratuki: the best way to eject media is to right-click on the dekstop icon and select unmount
[03:33] <pricechild> i don't think my ralink rt2500 type card was installed automatically this time round
[03:33] <orbin> cratuki: the disc should then be unmounted and ejected automaticaly
[03:33] <kingspawn> fyrestrtr: If you are interested, it can be done with a program called binchunker
[03:33] <cratuki> orbin: this is a blank CD so doesn't have an icon. it didn't automount.
[03:33] <Frogzoo> pricechild: have you checked the nic has a linux driver?
[03:33] <sybariten> pricechild: not unless you live in norrkoping, sweden .... AAAHAHAHA sorry, i had to
[03:33] <pricechild> last time i installed breezy, it was picked up perfectly
[03:33] <orbin> cratuki: oh
[03:33] <pricechild> i didn't need to do anything about it
[03:33] <pricechild> it just worked
[03:33] <cratuki> orbin: the 'mount' was actualyl eperimental because I wanted to see if it would respond - I've been unable to get my cd burning program to talk to the cd correctly.
[03:34] <pricechild> i've tried replacing the card with one i KNOW works in winxp on another machine
[03:34] <cratuki> I recon I've had success on this system with cdrecord in the past houg.
[03:34] <Frogzoo> pricechild: so now edit /etc/network/interfaces & add and entry for eth#
[03:34] <pricechild> ok... what do i put?
[03:34] <pricechild> can i call it ra0 as that's what it was last time and i was used to it :)
[03:34] <Frogzoo> pricechild: largely you just copy what's already there for eth0 if it's just a question of changing ips/netmasks
[03:35] <pricechild> ah ok
[03:35] <mthizozo> i cant play my dvd movies plz can anyone help me.
[03:35] <pricechild> it's a wireless card... it'll just work if i copy it?
[03:35] <pricechild> mthiziozo you need to install media codecs
[03:36] <pricechild> so i just copy this:
[03:36] <pricechild> iface eth0 inet static
[03:36] <pricechild> address 192.168.0.1
[03:36] <pricechild> netmask 255.255.255.0
[03:36] <pricechild> auto eth0
[03:36] <_jason> !dvd
[03:36] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[03:36] <axisme> sorry back
[03:36] <pricechild> and make it all ra0 instead?
[03:36] <axisme> customers ya kno ;-)
[03:36] <Frogzoo> pricechild: if it's wireless, you'll also need to set essid, & the if name's most likely what it was, ra0
[03:36] <axisme> edhunter
[03:36] <axisme> you should see a little window
[03:36] <axisme> with my name on it, at the bottom of your screen
[03:36] <axisme> type in there
[03:37] <pricechild> so how do i set up the essid :)
[03:37] <Frogzoo> pricechild: 1st try just 'sudo ifconfig ra0 up'  & then ifconfig should show the if name
[03:37] <Edhunter> can u see my msg s?
[03:37] <Frogzoo> Edhunter: not a thing
[03:37] <pricechild> ra0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[03:37] <axisme> no but you arent registered, most likely
[03:37] <axisme> ok anyway
[03:37] <Edhunter> no i'm not:S
[03:38] <Frogzoo> pricechild: check dmesg to see if the kernel found anything
[03:38] <axisme> open a terminal
[03:38] <pricechild> any chance of you quiding me to dmesg :)
[03:38] <Edhunter> i have to be registerd to make private msgs?
[03:38] <Edhunter> ok, done
[03:38] <axisme> sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:38] <Frogzoo> !tell pricechild about wifi
[03:38] <axisme> scroll down till you find a line starting with  kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-
[03:39] <axisme> or whatever kernel your using
[03:39] <sboo> Who can I play the music viedo
[03:39] <Edhunter> # kernel        /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
[03:39] <Edhunter> ?
[03:40] <Edhunter> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386
[03:40] <axisme> any other stuff at the end?
[03:40] <Edhunter>  root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[03:41] <axisme> okies
[03:41] <axisme> paste me the whole line
[03:41] <Edhunter> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[03:41] <axisme> anything else after splash?
[03:42] <Edhunter> nope, not on the same line
[03:42] <axisme> ok make the terminal fill the screen
[03:42] <Jowi> hi all, network probs on one of my friends laptop. it only get an inet6 address. what can be done to fix that?
[03:42] <axisme> then tell me if there is anything else
[03:42] <Edhunter> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[03:42] <Edhunter> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-10-386
[03:42] <pricechild> Ok none of that has helped me
[03:42] <pricechild> ubuntu just doesn't recognise that my card is plugged in anymore
[03:42] <axisme> ok...we can try...should be slightly different
[03:42] <pricechild> i've tried moving it to different pci slots
[03:43] <pricechild> and using a different card
[03:43] <axisme> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash pci=assign-busses
[03:43] <axisme> replace with that
[03:43] <axisme> exit and save
[03:43] <axisme> reboot
[03:43] <Edhunter> okaj, exactly what are we doing now:)?
[03:43] <axisme> and hopefully your wireless will be detected
[03:43] <pricechild> axis... you were talking to me?
[03:43] <axisme> no, im talking to edhunter
[03:43] <pricechild> ah good :P
[03:44] <pricechild> would that help me?
[03:44] <Edhunter> okay wait a sec will change it
[03:44] <axisme> i dunno what your prob is
[03:44] <pricechild> seen as my wireless won't get recognised either
[03:44] <pricechild> i'm using a rt2500 based pci chipset
[03:44] <pricechild> and last time i installed ubuntu, it was recognised
[03:44] <pricechild> but this time not
[03:44] <Edhunter> pci?
[03:44] <pricechild> yeah
[03:44] <Edhunter> i have a pc card:S
[03:44] <Jowi> how do i make the nic to only get a ipv4 address?
[03:44] <pricechild> as in goes in the pci slots
[03:44] <pricechild> tis a desktop
[03:44] <axisme> edhunter?
[03:45] <axisme> did you replace the line?
[03:45] <axisme> or add to the line, however you want to do it
[03:45] <axisme> pricechild il try and help you soon
[03:45] <Edhunter> nope not yet, should i write PCI even if i have a pc card network card?
[03:45] <pricechild> thanks dude :)
[03:45] <void^> pccard = pci
[03:46] <helfrez> Jowi, inet6 shows up in the config by default, it shouldnt affect ur ipv4 setup
[03:47] <Edhunter> now i've changed it, how do i save it?
[03:47] <helfrez> Jowi, treat it as a regular ipv4 dhcp problem
[03:47] <axisme> ctrl x
[03:47] <axisme> will ask you to save
[03:47] <axisme> type yes
[03:47] <axisme> then reboot
[03:47] <axisme> and your wireless should then be detected
[03:47] <Jowi> helfrez: it does affect it. if i restart the network the problem goes away but, if i reboot the computer again it only get ipv6.
[03:48] <kingspawn> Anyone know of a program that can display .chm? (I think its the Windows Help file-format)
[03:48] <Jowi> helfrez: i want to disable ipv6 totally since i don't need it.
[03:48] <_jason> !info xchm
[03:48] <ubotu> xchm: (Compiled HTML Help (CHM) file viewer for X), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2:0.9.8-5ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 221 kB, Installed size: 828 kB
[03:49] <Edhunter> restarting brb
[03:50] <helfrez> Jowi, u can probably comment ipv6 out of the aliases
[03:50] <_jason> !ipv6
[03:50] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[03:50] <Jowi> thanks _jason
[03:51] <arrick> _jason, morning
[03:51] <_jason> arrick: morning
[03:51] <helfrez> there u go
[03:51] <helfrez> hehe i was on the right track
[03:52] <arrick> hey do you know if there is any way to remove the ubuntu partition on a dual boot and not have messed up the win partition?
[03:52] <Edhunter> axisme: nothing :S
[03:52] <kingspawn> arrick: Just get into windows and remove if from there
[03:52] <helfrez> thats probably one of the single most important secrets to ubuntu's success...people actually friggin help
[03:52] <axisme> not working?
[03:52] <Edhunter> nope:S
[03:52] <_jason> arrick: what's wrong with just deleting the ubuntu partition?
[03:52] <axisme> the lights at the back come on?
[03:52] <axisme> or not?
[03:52] <helfrez> you can ask a question and usually get a str8 answer....which is not common for linux lol
[03:52] <Edhunter> nothing
[03:52] <paradox_bound> Hello can anyone help with getting xclipboard to work with the Terminal Server Client, I need to be able to cut and paste between remote windows desktops and my local Ubuntu desktop?
[03:52] <arrick> _jason, I cant see it to delete it for some reason
[03:53] <_jason> arrick: what are you using?
[03:53] <arrick> Windows XP pro
[03:53] <axisme> are you dual booting with windows, edhunter?
[03:53] <dwa> ok, dumb question: i need to enter some exotic commands for ndiswrapper at boot time, where do i put those so they execute automatically every time?
[03:53] <dwa> they require sudo
[03:53] <Alexandre> I need istall my printer HP deskjet 720c tb no XFCE.
[03:53] <Edhunter> no, only Ubuntu ;)
[03:53] <_jason> arrick: try booting with a livecd and using gparted
[03:53] <axisme> k
[03:53] <arrick> ok thanks
[03:53] <axisme> sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:53] <Frogzoo> dwa: usually /etc/init.d, with a symlink from /etc/rc2.d
[03:53] <axisme> paste the line to me again
[03:53] <franke> I'm following a gmail-FUSE guide, and I have a problem , can anyone make any suggestions about this error ? http://pastebin.ca/50933
[03:54] <dwa> thanks Frogzoo
[03:54] <Edhunter> yepp, w8 a sec ;
[03:54] <dwa> Frogzoo, and how do i cover the need for sudo?
[03:55] <hyphenated> dwa: at boot time, things are being run as root
[03:55] <Edhunter> ## ## End Default Options ##
[03:55] <Edhunter> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-386
[03:55] <Edhunter> root            (hd0,0)
[03:55] <Edhunter> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash pci=assign-busses
[03:55] <Edhunter> initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-10-386
[03:55] <Edhunter> savedefault
[03:55] <Edhunter> boot
[03:55] <dwa> ok, thanks
[03:55] <hyphenated> dwa: so even though after login, you might need to use sudo, while it's booting, you won't :-)
[03:55] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell Edhunter about paste
[03:55] <Frogzoo> dwa: rc scripts are run by init, which has uid=0, of course
[03:55] <dwa> thanks hyphenated en Frogzoo
[03:55] <dwa> en = and
[03:56] <watson540> hello guys. I'm really at a loss here. I just realized last night after running ubuntu for months that my fans stayed on steadily and never really went faster or slower like they usually do. Plus im getting some high hard drive temperature readings, and it seems I dont know wwhere to start gettingg this acpiu to turn on or whatever. i have all the acpi pkg's installed though
[03:57] <watson540> i wish there was a ncurses interface maybe to config it all I dunno
[03:57] <axisme> try changing to  kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-20-386 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash vga=0x323 pci=assign-busses
[03:57] <axisme> cant see how its gonna make any difference though. If this doesn't work im out of ideas
[03:57] <watson540> i just wanna be able to tweak my fan speed a bit higher
[03:58] <MetaMorfoziS> What "Kernel panic" means?
[03:58] <Edhunter> ok, i'll try. thx for the help. Can u just see if you know how to install this driver?
[03:58] <watson540> i swear ive googled the heck outta thi s one too
[03:58] <AnsiC> hello
[03:59] <AnsiC> on this server there is a command to list the channels
[03:59] <watson540> hel-desk on vacvation lol
[03:59] <AnsiC> ^^
[03:59] <AnsiC> ??
[03:59] <AnsiC> example: /list *foo*
[03:59] <Edhunter> RT61 @ http://www.ralinktech.com/supp-1.htm
[03:59] <Edhunter> i have no idea how to install this driver
[04:00] <AnsiC> and show me something like: #foo1 #abcfoode
[04:00] <daninj> wow, cool
[04:00] <daninj> hello ;)
[04:00] <pricechild>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[04:00] <orbin> AnsiC: ask in #freenode
[04:00] <markus_dresch> i'm trying to compile a list of apps for windows users who think about migrating to linux. comments are welcome: http://markus.dresch.com/?title=migrating_to_linux
[04:00] <axisme> edhunter, you shouldnt need to
[04:01] <Edhunter> why?
[04:01] <Frogzoo> watson540: I don't know how the fans are controlled but at a guess, what does 'cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ATF0/cooling_mode' give you?
[04:01] <axisme> because ubuntu should detect it
[04:01] <AnsiC> #freenode or ##freenode
[04:01] <AnsiC> ?
[04:01] <Edhunter> okay, my card might be broken than:S
[04:01] <axisme> anyway, save with that new line and reboot
[04:02] <AnsiC> . /join #freenode go into #freenode-social
[04:02] <Edhunter> but last time i installed Dapper Drake and it recognized te card it didn't support WPA encryption
[04:02] <AnsiC> AnsiC hello
[04:02] <AnsiC> * #freenode-social :Cannot send to channel
[04:02] <arrick> ok _jason im in the live cd, want to walk me through getting gparted?
[04:03] <arrick> or using it actually?
[04:03] <_jason> arrick: should be in system tools or system... somewhere in there... or just run gparted in a terminal
[04:03] <markus_dresch> gparted is pretty straight-forward...
[04:03] <pricechild> don't forget me axis :)
[04:03] <Edhunter> rebooting ;)
[04:04] <orbin> AnsiC: are you using xchat?
[04:04] <dwa> hyphenated and Frogzoo, it worked perfectly, thanks again
[04:04] <arrick> _jason, how do I unlock the ubuntu partitions?
[04:04] <arrick> they show a padlock
[04:04] <Frogzoo> dwa: yw
[04:04] <_jason> arrick: are they mounted?
[04:04] <arrick> Im not sure, let me check
[04:04] <AnsiC> yes
[04:04] <orbin> AnsiC: window>channel list
[04:05] <AnsiC> a tks
[04:06] <arrick> _jason, when I type mount hey dont show up, so Im thinking no
[04:07] <bony> how to install complete working desktop environment with dapper/drake amd64 ? i get options like "install to hard disk" and when i see the command line i find that it actually installs ubuntu-server were in notting get's installed other than few packages.
[04:07] <_jason> arrick: I'm not sure why they would be locked then
[04:07] <bony> at the boot prompt
[04:07] <pdlnhrd> does anyone know how to add a new panel in gnome to an display... i want to have a panel on each monitor in my dual  monitor setup
[04:07] <Edhunter> nothing:S
[04:08] <pricechild> pdlnhrd, right click an existing pannel
[04:08] <pricechild> (an empty bit of space on it)
[04:08] <pricechild> and it'll say "add panel"
[04:08] <arrick> anyone: I am using gparted from the livecd, and the installed ubuntu partitions are locked, they are not mounted, how do I unlock them?
[04:09] <pdlnhrd> pricechild: thanks i was looking in the add to panel i missed new panel
[04:09] <Edhunter> it must be my card that is broken :S
[04:09] <arrick> brb rebooting
[04:09] <pricechild> you can then just drag them around :)
[04:09] <orbin> bony: ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:10] <bony> orbin, ok
[04:10] <daninj> hi, im having what should be a simple problem with screen res. im using vnc to log into a box that doesnt have a monitor plugged in and the highest res i can get is 640x480. ive played with the xserver video config to no avail, any help would be really appreciated as 640 really blows.
[04:11] <Edhunter> anyway, axisme thanks for the help ;)
[04:11] <pricechild> Axisme, any chance of helping me with my wireless card? or anyone else?
[04:12] <paradox_bound> daninj if you are using the Terminal Server client there are options there for increasing the resolution have you tried those?
[04:13] <skpl> can someone help me? this is what im trying to do: http://pastebin.com/678849
[04:13] <daninj> i must have missed it, ill have another look, cheers.
[04:13] <pricechild> hey can anyone help me with my wireless card?
[04:13] <skpl> this is the error i am recieving : http://pastebin.com/678851
[04:13] <pricechild> its a ralink chipset, rt2500
[04:13] <pricechild> and hasn't been recognised this time around
[04:13] <pricechild> i've tried different pci slots
[04:14] <pricechild> and also a replacement card which i know works
[04:14] <AnsiC> is possible use dpkg for install to other root ?????
[04:14] <pricechild> but ubuntu doesn't recofnise it
[04:14] <pricechild> *recognise it
[04:14] <AnsiC> example if i have the directory /home/user/mydistro
[04:15] <parlament> pricechild, since when has your card been recognised before?
[04:15] <AnsiC> and i want install there
[04:15] <parlament> i mean has it been recognised before ;)
[04:15] <pricechild> it was recognised last time i isntalled ubuntu. I have since formatted ad reinstalled, this time, not being picked up
[04:15] <skpl> can someone help me with this?  http://pastebin.com/678851
[04:16] <parlament> are you using breezy or dapper
[04:16] <pricechild> breezy
[04:16] <klaxian> does anyone know how to delay an application starting upon login in the gnome-session-properties?
[04:16] <pricechild> i compiled my own kernel... but took most of the old settings from the original breezy onw
[04:16] <pricechild> *one
[04:16] <orbin> AnsiC: no.  it puts the files to wherever the package maintainer specifies, probably following a standard
[04:16] <pricechild> i haven't taken out any support for anything which could hve affected this
[04:16] <pricechild> as far as i know anyway :P
[04:17] <AnsiC> but /home/user/mylinux must contain a standard structure
[04:17] <usr13> (Trying to help a friend with a new Breezy install) Is the GUI mode on runlevel 4 ?
[04:17] <parlament> which kernel are you using
[04:17] <pricechild> all i did was remove graphics card support for ati etc. and a few performance tweaks mentioned on the forums
[04:17] <pricechild> 2.6.16.9
[04:17] <arrick> Anyone: how do i get the unstalled ubuntu partitions unlocked so I can delet them with gparted
[04:17] <pricechild> 386
[04:17] <pricechild> arrick... are you getting rid of ubuntu, or reinstalling it?
[04:18] <orbin> AnsiC: what?
[04:18] <arrick> getting rid of it on this box pricechild
[04:18] <pricechild> ok
[04:18] <pricechild> you might wanna try using the ubuntu install cd, skipping to the partitioning stage, and just deleteing them from there... that always works better for me than gparted
[04:18] <pricechild> any ideas parlament?
[04:18] <AnsiC> the name of directory tall all: /home/user/mylinux
[04:19] <AnsiC> of course /home/user/mylinux contain bin etc dev
[04:19] <arrick> ok thanks
[04:19] <Jaymac> can anyone give me any advice for this problem? ubuntu pc connected to the net... windows laptop plugged in via crossover cable, i can chat on IRC on the laptop but do nothing else.. no websites, no AIM, MSN etc
[04:19] <franke> I'm following a gmail-FUSE guide, and I have a problem , can anyone make any suggestions about this error ? http://pastebin.ca/50933
[04:19] <AnsiC> i want install packages considering /home/user/mylinux as ROOR_DESTINATION
[04:19] <orbin> AnsiC: no. i don't think you could do that
[04:19] <AnsiC> ROOT_DESTINATION
[04:19] <skpl> can someone tell me why i am getting this erro
[04:20] <NoUse> usr13 ubuntu runs everything in level 2 by default I believe
[04:20] <usr13> Oh...
[04:20] <hyphenated> AnsiC: why? they won't run properly if you put them there
[04:20] <AnsiC> becouse i want my separate linux system
[04:20] <AnsiC> minimal system
[04:21] <AnsiC> without window manager
[04:21] <AnsiC> only a minimal system
[04:21] <usr13>  NoUse, My friend is quite the novice but has tried to follow instructions to load KDE on Ubuntu 10.5
[04:21] <freakabcd> AnsiC, and why would this minimal system need stuff to be installed elsewhere?
[04:21] <hyphenated> AnsiC: how do you plan on using it? you can't just drop/unpack the files there and expect it to all work
[04:21] <freakabcd> you mean you _will_ have a window manager, but just not for systemwide use?
[04:21] <NoUse> usr13 its just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and then select KDE as the session type at the login screen
[04:21] <usr13> but, when he got done, he had a blank KDE screen and he rebooted and was back to Gnome.
[04:22] <orbin> hyphenated: obviosuly he does :-/
[04:22] <AnsiC> becouse / is not the / of minimal system
[04:22] <AnsiC>  / is root of ubuntu
[04:22] <orbin> usr13: how did he install kde?
[04:23] <pricechild> parlament suggested that the self compiled 2.6.16.9 kernel might cause problems with the detection of my wireless networking card, which did work perfectly
[04:23] <pricechild> has anyone any suggestions?
[04:23] <usr13> http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5668
[04:23] <AnsiC> and / of minimal system is /home/user/mylinux
[04:23] <axisme> edhunter, it is more likely ubuntu doing something wrong than your card broken
[04:23] <pricechild> i noticed that axisme was prescribing adding "pci=assign-busses" to the gub menu for a similar problem
[04:23] <hyphenated> AnsiC: and you switch to the minimal system using..?
[04:23] <usr13>  orbin He used instructions from ^^
[04:23] <NoUse> usr13 that won't work
[04:23] <NoUse> usr13 he needs to install the kubuntu-desktop package
[04:23] <usr13>  NoUse apparrently not.
[04:24] <usr13>   NoUse, Have releayed that info to him...
[04:24] <AnsiC> depend of what i must do
[04:24] <daninj> cheers p[aradox_bound  thanks for the tip although i think thats for the other way around. i am using realvnc on a dos box to connect to the liunx box. the dos box running vnc opens its fkn window at 640 and wont allow me to increase the screen res either locally (there appears to be no option) or to increase screen res on linux box via admin /. screen res
[04:24] <skpl> can someone help me? i am trying to install a program...
[04:24] <orbin> usr13: tell him to stick to official info sources :-/
[04:24] <GueVaRa> question: when i install...it only asked me to set 1st user pass...now...after i log in...and try to install new prog....it asks me for root pass..
[04:25] <GueVaRa> where the hell do i get the pass??
[04:25] <hyphenated> GueVaRa: no, it wants _your_ password
[04:25] <orbin> GueVaRa: no it doesn't, it asks for yours
[04:25] <NoUse> skpl give me specifics and we can try
[04:25] <GueVaRa> so enter my pass twice??
[04:25] <_jason> GueVaRa: you enter your password to get sudo privileges
[04:25] <AnsiC> so. i want use apt to install into other root
[04:26] <hyphenated> GueVaRa: yes, for two different reasons
[04:26] <AnsiC> is possible ?
[04:26] <usr13>  orbin, What is the official info or instructions on how to install KDE on Ubuntu Breezy
[04:26] <Sonderblade> is there an app for taking an image of a harddisk to a file so that you can use dd to restore the disk?
[04:26] <hyphenated> AnsiC: with a heck of a lot of work, you could make it happen. or jsut learn about hard links
[04:26] <GueVaRa> i enter my new root pass??? but how come i get "sry, try again"??
[04:26] <usr13> Where rather than What....
[04:26] <orbin> AnsiC: no.  just do a server install if you want a minimal system
[04:26] <_jason> GueVaRa: hmm? there is no root password set
[04:27] <skpl> NoUse, http://pastebin.com/678905
[04:27] <LoMonteiro> Hi, how I install the Binnary file ?
[04:27] <_jason> LoMonteiro: what are you trying to install?
[04:27] <NoUse> skpl what program are you trying to install?
[04:27] <skpl> NoUse, it is called mizio
[04:28] <usr13> Should he switch from gdm to kdm ?
[04:28] <NoUse> !tell usr13 about kde
[04:28] <NoUse> usr13 once he gets to the login screen he has to select KDE from the session menu
[04:28] <usr13> !tell usr13 about kde
[04:28] <orbin> usr13: wiki should have a page on it i would think
[04:29] <usr13>  orbin Ok, tnx.
[04:29] <LoMonteiro> _jason: The RealPlayer
[04:29] <_jason> ubotu: tell LoMonteiro about realplayer
[04:29] <AnsiC> i do this becouse i want a minimal linux system that i can put in my hand
[04:29] <AnsiC> go to friend and use it by friend
[04:30] <AnsiC> this must be, minimal. and contain the programming tools
[04:30] <AnsiC> that can build sane programs
[04:30] <freakabcd> AnsiC, why not just use the live cd ?
[04:30] <freakabcd> last time i checked it had devel tools
[04:30] <AnsiC> becouse all sens dead
[04:31] <freakabcd> all sens dead?
[04:31] <skpl> NoUse, can you help?
[04:31] <skpl> NoUse, IM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE SED COMMAND
[04:31] <skpl> oops
[04:32] <skpl> NoUse, inside the shell script i posted the url to
[04:32] <_jason> skpl: sed 'y/[A-Z] /[a-z] /' :)
[04:32] <arrick> _jason, I deleted them, nwo I cant boot the system without the livecd, cause the grub is still there, and throwing error 22
[04:32] <AnsiC> why I have passion for computer science and the programming
[04:32] <skpl> NoUse, i do not understand what directory it is looking for, or why
[04:32] <AnsiC> becouse
[04:32] <_jason> arrick: boot with the xp install disk and run fixmbr in recovery console
[04:32] <arrick> ok thanks
[04:32] <AnsiC> and base all to a specific distribution
[04:33] <LoMonteiro> _jason: Thanks!
[04:33] <AnsiC> i do not like it
[04:33] <skpl> _jason, so what are y, and a-z
[04:33] <stamen81> hello
[04:33] <_jason> skpl: my syntax is a bit off it seems since it's not working :), y should translate, like tr
[04:33] <orbin> !it
[04:33] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:34] <stamen81> how can I check my linux kernel which version is
[04:34] <stamen81> and where it is
[04:34] <pricechild> uname -r
[04:34] <stamen81> !kernel
[04:34] <stamen81> 10x
[04:34] <Frogzoo> stamen81: /boot/vmlinuz...
[04:34] <_jason> skpl: http://doc.novsu.ac.ru/oreilly/unix/sedawk/index.htm
[04:34] <NoUse> skpl give me a minute, I'm looking at it
[04:34] <stamen81> Frogzoo, thank you too :)
[04:34] <Frogzoo> yw
[04:35] <skpl> NoUse, ok
[04:35] <stamen81> Frogzoo, I am installing Vmware distrib
[04:35] <_jason> skpl: heh, has to be: y/abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz/ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ/
[04:35] <stamen81> and it asks me where is the linux image
[04:35] <_jason> but backwards in your case
[04:35] <skpl> _jason, yes but what are they
[04:35] <stamen81> Frogzoo, will it be mistake to show it the /boot path
[04:36] <_jason> skpl: what the y?
[04:36] <_jason> skpl: just read through taht link I put up, 's' is what you use most, here is what 'y' does: http://doc.novsu.ac.ru/oreilly/unix/sedawk/ch05_07.htm
[04:36] <KaYOz> helo
[04:37] <[Rodrigo> !apt
[04:37] <ubotu> well, apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[04:37] <freakabcd> _jason, its simpler with tr
[04:37] <freakabcd> _jason, tr a-z A-Z
[04:37] <[Rodrigo> !apt-proxy
[04:37] <ubotu> [Rodrigo: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:37] <[Rodrigo> !proxy
[04:37] <_jason> freakabcd: yeah, it is, but he said I WANT TO LEARN SED, so I thought it would be more appropriate :)
[04:37] <ubotu> [Rodrigo: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:37] <[Rodrigo> !kde
[04:37] <ubotu> kde is, like, A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[04:38] <NoUse> skpl ok, heres the problem, you downloaded the slackware package
[04:38] <orbin> [Rodrigo: dude, /msg the bot
[04:38] <freakabcd> heh, ok
[04:38] <NoUse> skpl https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=85218
[04:38] <NoUse> skpl download the package named:  mizio-0.3.1.tar.gz
[04:38] <NoUse> skpl you can install that using the typical ./configure; make; sudo checkinstall
[04:39] <skpl> oh really?
[04:39] <Hattory> how to install playground?
[04:39] <Hattory> is it possible with apt-get?
[04:40] <skpl> NoUse, bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[04:40] <Hattory> which repository needed to be added?
[04:40] <johnm1019> what is the hotkey to switch between x desktops?
[04:40] <KaYOz> can anybody help me. my ubuntu doesnt work on my notebook...
[04:40] <orbin> Hattory: what is it?
[04:40] <skpl> NoUse, can you explain how to do that?
[04:40] <NoUse> skpl you have to uncompress the archive and cd into the directory
[04:40] <orbin> johnm1019: ctrl+alt+left/right
[04:40] <johnm1019> orbin, thanks! :)
[04:40] <KaYOz> i insert the cd. it staarts booting but stops after 10 seconds... it just hungs up
[04:41] <Hattory> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/gnome/playground
[04:41] <Hattory> i have not understand
[04:41] <Hattory> i download the deb
[04:41] <Hattory> dpkg it but it asks for dependencies
[04:41] <NoUse> !tell skpl about compile
[04:41] <Hattory> !tell playground
[04:41] <NoUse> skpl but at the stage where is says "make install", read what it says about Checkinstall which is a better option
[04:41] <Hattory> !tell hattory about playground
[04:42] <Hattory> how to search for a package and add the corresponding repository on sources.list?
[04:42] <orbin> Hattory: you should stick to ubuntu packages
[04:43] <Hattory> hmm?
[04:43] <orbin> ubotu: tell Hattory about repos
[04:43] <KaYOz> can anybody help me? - concerning my boot problem on my notebook
[04:43] <skpl> NoUse, but the program does not come with source code
[04:43] <orbin> ubotu: tell Hattory about synaptic
[04:43] <Profichilla> nicotine throws out a strange error message and doesn't start. May someone have a look its output? http://pastebin.com/678944
[04:43] <NoUse> skpl did you download the package I told you to?
[04:44] <skpl> im not sure
[04:44] <orbin> Hattory: or you can use apt-get (i'm guessing you used debian before)
[04:44] <skpl> NoUse, yes, i did
[04:44] <Hattory> orbin
[04:44] <NoUse> skpl that has the source in it
[04:44] <Hattory> apt-get doesn't find the package
[04:44] <Hattory> that's what i'm asking
[04:44] <Hattory> how can i find the right repository
[04:45] <Hattory> i have already the right repository
[04:45] <orbin> Hattory: it might not be available in the ubuntu repositories
[04:45] <Hattory> ya, and?
[04:45] <orbin> Hattory: i can't see it in universe or multiverse
[04:45] <Hattory> how to install it?
[04:45] <skpl> NoUse, OK
[04:45] <watson540> Frogzoo: cat: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THZN/cooling_mode: No such file or directory - :(
[04:45] <Frogzoo> !tell Hattory about enter
[04:45] <Hattory> k
[04:45] <watson540> but i checked and all of my 'acpi' packages are instyalled
[04:45] <bur[n] er> wtf is playground
[04:46] <watson540> and i checked and it's in my 'sysinit' too
[04:46] <Frogzoo> watson540: lappie or desktop?
[04:46] <KenSentMe> when i put a dvd-rom in my machine, i can't see the contents of the dvd in nautilus. Anyone know why?
[04:46] <Hattory> it says it needs playground-plugin-xmms | playground-plugin-bmp too... i found only the first one. any advice?
[04:46] <watson540> Frogzoo: desktop
[04:46] <KenSentMe> It's a game dvd and i use Dapper Drake
[04:46] <orbin> Hattory: i'd go w/ the source.  are you sure it's compatible w/ gnome 2.12 though?
[04:46] <Hattory> what's the meaning of i would go with the source? how?
[04:47] <watson540> i have 1 hard drive running at 45 C and another at 41C
[04:47] <Profichilla> nicotine throws out a strange error message and doesn't start. May someone have a look its output? http://pastebin.com/678944
[04:47] <Frogzoo> watson540: your mobo does support fan control?
[04:47] <watson540> of course it should
[04:47] <watson540> i even have a knob on the front to control the speed of my power supply fan
[04:48] <orbin> Hattory: http://home.gna.org/playground/#sec3
[04:48] <arrick> thanks _jason
[04:48] <watson540> but when i used windows way back when with this, it 'controlled' the fan speed as needed
[04:48] <arrick> I got it back up now
[04:48] <orbin> Hattory: get the source, extract it and compile it
[04:48] <orbin> ubotu: tell Hattory about compile
[04:48] <Frogzoo> watson540: does /proc/acpi exist?
[04:48] <watson540> i could hear it speeding up and down..with linux its just a steady humm, and sometimes i do get the dreaeded 'cpu running to hot, blah blah running in modulated clock mode!'
[04:48] <arrick> morning Frogzoo
[04:48] <watson540> yes it exists
[04:49] <watson540> itsd wierd
[04:49] <Profichilla> http://pastebin.com/678944
[04:49] <Profichilla> ups
[04:49] <watson540> ac_adapter  battery  dsdt                 event  fan     info            processor  sony          video   wmi
[04:49] <watson540> alarm       button   embedded_controller  fadt   hotkey  power_resource  sleep      thermal_zone  wakeup
[04:49] <watson540> thats my output from 'ls /proc/acpi'
[04:49] <simpo> hi! whats the linux app like discdoctor ?
[04:50] <watson540> and 'lsmod' shows the modules are loaded
[04:50] <watson540> i googled a couple forum hits on this topic, but none had siolved it..dead threads
[04:50] <orbin> Hattory: actually, it tells you how to install it on that page
[04:50] <watson540> believe me asking for help is my last resort :)
[04:51] <skpl> can someone tell me why i am getting this error? http://pastebin.com/678964
[04:51] <NoUse> simpo I'm not familiar with discdoctor, is just like scandisk?
[04:52] <_jason> skpl: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[04:52] <simpo> NoUse,  yes
[04:53] <arrick> Morning Seveas
[04:53] <almuleon> ola
[04:53] <arrick> !es
[04:53] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:53] <Iceyes> what do need to do for use a ntfs hardive on ubuntu? mounth?
[04:53] <_jason> ubotu: tell Iceyes about ntfs
[04:53] <almuleon> eeooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[04:53] <NoUse> simpo there is a console application called fsck
[04:53] <arrick> almuleon, Por favor usen #ubuntu-es
[04:54] <simpo> NoUse,  thx
[04:54] <almuleon> peroeso q es
[04:54] <arrick>  type /j #ubuntu-es almuleon
[04:55] <KenSentMe> when i put a dvd-rom in my machine, i can't see the contents of the dvd in nautilus. Anyone know why?
[04:55] <KenSentMe> It's a game dvd and i use Dapper Drake
[04:55] <almuleon> olA
[04:55] <orbin> Profichilla: how'd you install nicotine?
[04:55] <arrick> KenSentMe, you might want to go to #ubuntu+1 for dapper support
[04:55] <Profichilla> orbin, aptitude
[04:55] <Jowi> KenSentMe: /j #ubuntu+1 , only breezy support in here
[04:55] <Kumo> hi guys, does anybody know what is wacom?
[04:56] <arrick> morning orbin
[04:56] <watson540> wtf is dapper drake?! i thought this was #ubuntu
[04:56] <Kumo> I mean /dev/wacom
[04:56] <watson540> oooh its a distro lol
[04:56] <watson540> n/m
[04:56] <orbin> Profichilla: werid, that should have grabbed all the dependencies, but it looks like it's complaining about libcairo?
[04:56] <Jowi> watson540: dapper is the beta version of the new ubuntu
[04:56] <watson540> ic
[04:56] <orbin> hello arrick. see that you removed ubuntu from a box. shame on you :P
[04:56] <Profichilla> orbin, aye. I have already reinstalled libcairo2 without effect :/
[04:56] <almuleon> OLA EEEOOOOOOOO
[04:57] <orbin> almuleon: stop that
[04:57] <Frogzoo> watson540: hope this helps some: http://secure.netroedge.com/~lm78/supported.html
[04:57] <watson540> man you would think there would be a faq on this whole ubuntu and acpi thing!@
[04:57] <arrick> orbin, I needed more room for my recording studio software, unless you know of some good oo for that I had to do it
[04:57] <Jowi> almuleon: "/join #ubuntu-es"
[04:57] <beneiro> hi, can anyone help me install amsn?
[04:57] <orbin> Profichilla: -dev?
[04:57] <axisme> sudo apt-get install amsn
[04:57] <arrick> Jowi, I alreadt told almuleon that a couple times
[04:58] <__filip_> http://pastebin.com/678972 i get that when i try to play an mp3 in juk, no sound work in my machine.
[04:58] <Profichilla> orbin, is also installed.
[04:58] <freezey> how do i recover things from the trash?
[04:58] <almuleon> OLA
[04:58] <VincentMX> yo
[04:58] <Iceyes> does any information got deleted when i mounth a ntfs disc? can i still use it in windows?
[04:58] <Lous> almuleon, vete a dar por saco a tu casa (pon /#join ubuntu-es y deja de molestar)
[04:58] <arrick> sombody boot almuleon to the es channel please?
[04:58] <orbin> Profichilla: dunno.  maybe file a bug on it
[04:59] <freezey> orbin: how do i recover things from the trash
[04:59] <Jowi> almuleon: escriba esto: /j #ubuntu-es .solamente ingl?s adentro aqu?.
[04:59] <watson540> does anyone know what the 'use 32 bit mode' for hard disks does? its in my bios menu?? shold i enable 32 bit mode for my hd's?
[04:59] <axisme> freezer, just right click on it
[04:59] <axisme> click cut
[04:59] <axisme> and paste wherever you want it
[04:59] <Jowi> arrick: yeah, saw that
[04:59] <arrick> watson540, yes
[04:59] <NoUse> Iceyes ubuntu won't write anything to your NTFS drive by default
[04:59] <VincentMX> i've just booted my ubuntu pc, and now my screen resolution is set to 640x480, and i cannot change this
[04:59] <freezey> axisme: whats the commands for it tho
[04:59] <orbin> Iceyes: if you mount it properly and don't try to write to it it'll be ok, it should be readonly
[04:59] <Profichilla> orbin, it suddenly stopped working, that is what surprised me. But I'll probably do it anway.
[04:59] <patrick_king> heyall
[04:59] <s3phiroth> hi there. i'm having a weird problem here and i'm not finding any reference to it on the forums, or wiki or anything: when i create new users and they login, the session exits immediatly. i'm using dapper btw
[04:59] <VincentMX> yo patrick_king
[04:59] <Jowi> hi patrick_king
[04:59] <daninj> vincent, i have the same problem
[05:00] <arrick> NoUse, ubuntu wont write to ntfs period unless you want it very unstable
[05:00] <axisme> mv blablabla.bla /home/axisme/blablabla.bla
[05:00] <watson540> arrick: does it make it more effecient or faster or what?
[05:00] <orbin> freezey: move them out of ~/Trash?
[05:00] <daninj> althoug mine happened when i disconnected the monitor
[05:00] <Jowi> !tell s3phiroth about dapper
[05:00] <Iceyes> orbin ty
[05:00] <arrick> yes
[05:00] <freezey> orbin: yeah
[05:00] <NoUse> arrick yeah I know
[05:00] <arrick> watson540, yes
[05:00] <watson540> cool
[05:00] <s3phiroth> oh...
[05:00] <orbin> Profichilla: oh, so it worked before?
[05:00] <s3phiroth> Jowi: ok, thanks :)
[05:00] <Jowi> np s3phiroth
[05:00] <s3phiroth> not used to come here
[05:00] <arrick> s3phiroth, go to #ubuntu+1 for dapper support
[05:00] <Profichilla> orbin, Until today, that is.
[05:00] <VincentMX> daninj, my monitor has been disconnected
[05:01] <[Rodrigo> !rar
[05:01] <ubotu> methinks rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[05:01] <orbin> Profichilla: i don't know tbh.
[05:01] <orbin> !fixres
[05:01] <ubotu> somebody said fixres was Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:01] <watson540> you can download 'unrar' for free
[05:01] <watson540> or apt-get unrar-free
[05:01] <daninj> try this vincent : sudo dpkg- reconfigure xserver-xorgsudo
[05:01] <s3phiroth> what the hell ?! i'm banned from #ubuntu+1 ?
[05:01] <patrick_king> !swat
[05:01] <daninj> sry hang on
[05:01] <orbin> VincentMX, daninj :  see above
[05:01] <ubotu> from memory, swat is Samba Web Administration Tool | sudo apt-get install swat | http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/swat.8.html
[05:01] <daninj> dont try that!
[05:01] <VincentMX> ok
[05:01] <Hobbsee> s3phiroth: give me a min..
[05:02] <s3phiroth> i never even been there...
[05:02] <VincentMX> orbin, thnx
[05:02] <s3phiroth> lol
[05:02] <taran> hello guys
[05:02] <arrick> orbin, I tried having my music record on the ext3 partition, from windows, and it was a nogo, any thought on this
[05:02] <arrick> ?
[05:02] <arrick> I could see the partition
[05:02] <s3phiroth> some crazy mass ban, is it ?
[05:02] <taran> i am having problem with gkismet
[05:02] <Iceyes> I had some problem, start ubuntu after my installation (no operating system found) what to do?
[05:02] <arrick> s3phiroth, hang on
[05:02] <s3phiroth> ok ok :)
[05:02] <nolan_22> I just installed Ubuntu yesterday and most everything is working fine, however I cannot get it to display on my external viewsonic LCD through the DVI port on my IBM mini dock. any ideas?
[05:02] <freezey> orbin: i got it
[05:02] <daninj> try this vince, then go through and reset it up : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:03] <Hobbsee> s3phiroth: ah yes.  change your "real name" to not be offensive.  then you'll be okay to go in
[05:03] <s3phiroth> ooohhhhhhh
[05:03] <daninj> i read a post that it can help to specify the actualy vram used
[05:03] <s3phiroth> that
[05:03] <VincentMX> arrick, windows would probably screw your ext3 partition all up, just so it can read it
[05:03] <nolan_22> It will go through the boot process on the external monitor, then when ubuntu starts, it shuts off
[05:03] <VincentMX> ok
[05:04] <watson540> nolan_22: sounds like you need to tweak yoour xserver
[05:04] <VincentMX> still there, arrick?
[05:04] <watson540> nolan_22: do a XF86Config
[05:04] <arrick> yeah
[05:04] <watson540> or the GUI equivalant
[05:04] <orbin> arrick: using the fs-driver?
[05:04] <arrick> orbin, nope
[05:04] <orbin> arrick: then how did you try and write to the ext3 partition? :-/
[05:04] <nolan_22> watson540: thanks, i'll give it a shot
[05:04] <Iceyes> how should i probperly mounth my operating system hardrive?
[05:05] <orbin> arrick: http://ubuntustudio.com/wiki/index.php/Welcome,_Musicians!
[05:05] <arrick> Iceyes, it should automount
[05:05] <minerale> Hi, does anyone know how to install codecs for mplayer ? I downloaded the .tar.gz and it has lots of .DLL's but I dont know what to do with them
[05:05] <arrick> thanks orbin
[05:05] <orbin> arrick: looks like a bit of effort though
[05:05] <NoUse> !tell minerale about w32codecs
[05:05] <Iceyes> arrick, the problems is it says no operating system found
[05:05] <arrick> no prob with me and a little work
[05:06] <arrick> Iceyes, grub is borked, ask for help with it
[05:06] <patrick_king> im havin trouble with swat i have installed swat and samba and i have enabled swat, but i still cant login localhost:901
[05:06] <Iceyes> who should i ask?
[05:06] <VincentMX> arrick, i wouldn't even try doing so, windows tends to screw this like this up. ever seen Stargate? Windows is like gua-uld, it tends to destroy what it doesn't understand
[05:06] <patrick_king> well :901 doesnt even lo0ad
[05:07] <arrick> VincentMX, thanks for your insight
[05:07] <arrick> VincentMX, I dis have it recording there, but then I couldnt access the files from the network, wven through ssh and crap, so I removed ubuntu from that box
[05:08] <none2> hi, how can I know which port a processes is running on?
[05:08] <Plitskin> hi, how can I know which port a processes is running on?
[05:08] <orbin> Iceyes: when do you get the error msg?
[05:09] <Iceyes> orbin, when i try to start ubuntu after i installed in
[05:09] <Iceyes> when the computer starts
[05:09] <patrick_king> the problem: i have installed swat and samba and i have enabled swat, but i still cant login localhost:901 i have inted installed aswell
[05:10] <bur[n] er> Plitskin: netstat -a
[05:10] <orbin> Iceyes: search the forum: ubuntuforums.org   that's kind of a generic error that could be caused by a lot of things
[05:11] <Plitskin> oh... silly me... thanks bur[n] er...
[05:11] <watson540> Frogzoo: do you think maybe its a kernel thing and i need to re-compile?
[05:12] <minerale> nouse: I'm on AMD64... trying to install 32codecs I get: package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[05:12] <Iceyes> orbin, sure
[05:12] <Rafa_Vzla> Ayudenme
[05:12] <arrick> hey orbin I think I will stick to what I know until they get their mess there straightened out, thanks for the site location though, something for me to play with on an extra box
[05:12] <Boglizk> Thats the second tiem that happend, I cant write, i can go in any menus, but ican browse the web with my mouse.
[05:12] <Boglizk> Any ideas?
[05:13] <boggiex64> had the same problem dont remember though how i worked around
[05:13] <Frogzoo> watson540: don't know - can only recommend google at this stage
[05:13] <Tomcat_> minerale: Well, w*32*codecs won't work on a 64bit system. ;P
[05:14] <patrick_king> the problem: i have installed swat and samba and i have enabled swat, but i still cant login localhost:901
[05:14] <boggiex64> I have a simmilar Q'
[05:14] <brynk> http://pastebin.com/678955
[05:15] <brynk> how do i fix that?
[05:16] <boggiex64> my chip says Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]  K8 [Athlon64/Opteron]  when I lspci but when i try to use a 64bit ubuntu or any other 64bit os it says 64bit hardware not found!
[05:17] <AnsiC> exist a channel about developers wher people do not sleep ?
[05:17] <AnAnt> isn't there a gpm in Ubuntu ?
[05:17] <AnsiC> and wher is possible to have an answare sometime?
[05:17] <mooky> AnsiC gpm as in the mouse driver exists in ubuntu
[05:17] <watson540> AnsiC: google.com
[05:17] <ompaul> watson540, I am not suggesting that this is the way foward but it be useful, you will have to research it yourself is there something you can do with outputs from lm-sensors?
[05:17] <AnAnt> mooky: I need mouse support for virtual console
[05:17] <watson540> ompaul: thank you..yeah i saw that on a web page somewhere i need to look into that
[05:18] <mooky> AnAnt gpm is a great tool for that
[05:18] <AnAnt> mooky: well, Ubuntu says that gpm is obsolete
[05:18] <AnAnt> I did apt-get install gpm
[05:18] <mooky> really ?
[05:18] <mooky> I'm quite surprised by that
[05:18] <AnAnt> oh sorry
[05:18] <mooky> more so if there is no replacment
[05:18] <AnAnt> I got the problem
[05:18] <mooky> ahhh super
[05:18] <AnAnt> ok, how can I configure apt-get to get sources from Internet ?
[05:19] <brynk> can anyone tell me how i can fix broken packages? i keep getting this error when i try to use apt or dpkg: http://pastebin.com/678955
[05:19] <mooky> is it not in the ubuntu repo
[05:19] <AnAnt> I installed Ubuntu from a DVD while my network was disabled
[05:19] <mooky> yeah, you'll need to hit the internet repo's
[05:19] <brynk> AnAnt: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:19] <mooky> if its not on your DVD
[05:19] <ompaul> AnAnt, it is in universe
[05:19] <mooky> there you go, from the hourses mouth
[05:21] <AnAnt> k, cool thx
[05:21] <AnAnt> it was commented
[05:21] <prgrmr> when i try using aptitude i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12841 , can i do something?
[05:25] <axisme> prgrmr
[05:25] <_jason> prgrmr: where is the error?
[05:25] <axisme> doesnt that means its already installed?
[05:25] <prgrmr> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12841
[05:25] <_jason> prgrmr: yes, I read it, but there is no error there :)
[05:25] <axisme> it looks to be already installed
[05:26] <mike1o> how do i change my default system jvm?
[05:26] <arrick> !pastebot
[05:26] <ubotu> pastebot is, like, http://pastebot.no-ip.org
[05:26] <_jason> ubotu: tell mike1o about multijava
[05:26] <mike1o> _jason, tnx
[05:27] <prgrmr> _jason, 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:27] <_jason> arrick: hmm I like that idea, did you run it by Seveas ?
[05:27] <kchiefs> can someone help me with a LTSP Breezy issue.  My monitors are set at 800x600 but the screen is to big. ie..i can't see all the buttons on some boxes.  This is just on the Thin clients themselves.
[05:27] <axisme> yes, that tends to mean its already installed :-)
[05:27] <_jason> prgrmr: as axisme said, it is probably already installed.  If you substitute aptitude with apt-get you will probably get a message saying that
[05:28] <_jason> prgrmr: or use aptitude -v
[05:28] <arrick> _jason, not yet, I have been trying to get in touch with Seveas though
[05:28] <Seveas> !forget pastebot
[05:28] <ubotu> i forgot pastebot, Seveas
[05:28] <arrick> I wanted to get it added in the topic
[05:29] <arrick> ok Seveas, thanks
[05:29] <Seveas> do NOT put pastebots in here
[05:29] <arrick> ok I won
[05:29] <arrick> wont
[05:29] <Seveas> they are far too easy to abuse
[05:29] <arrick> hey Seveas ok
[05:30] <mike1o> _jason, question do i need j2re if i have j2sk?
[05:30] <arrick> as soon as my transfer is done I will remove it from this channel
[05:30] <minerale> tomcat_: What? there's all kinds of 32bit libraries being used on amd64 systems !
[05:30] <_jason> mike1o: I don't believe so
[05:30] <varsendagger> !flash
[05:30] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:31] <mike1o> _jason, is it safe gcj and gij once i don't use them anymore?
[05:31] <_jason> mike1o: I don't know about that, personally, I just leave them
[05:32] <Tomcat_> minerale: Yes, but they are being accessed by 64bit libraries allowing access to 32bit libraries. w32codecs get accessed by totem, and apparently the 64bit totem can't access 32bit w32codecs. You could install a 32bit totem, I heard that might work.
[05:33] <apokryphos> or just install xine
[05:33] <mike1o> _jason, tnx again
[05:33] <axisme> or vlc
[05:33] <Tomcat_> apokryphos: xine can't do WMV9 afaik...
[05:33] <_jason> Tomcat_: it can with w32codecs
[05:34] <apokryphos> Tomcat_: neither can the w32codecs available for GNU/Linux, no?
[05:34] <apokryphos> have an example file?
[05:34] <Jowi> minerale: there is a workaround for w32codecs at the restrictedformats wiki page. something with chroot if i remember
[05:34] <Tomcat_> apokryphos: Sure, works for me.
[05:34] <Tomcat_> _jason: Yes, but exactly that is the problem we're talking about... ;P
[05:34] <_jason> Tomcat_: hmm didn't read the thing that was said before :)
[05:34] <apokryphos> Tomcat_: got an example file? I only have xine here, I'll tell you if it works.
[05:34] <Tomcat_> :-)
[05:35] <kchiefs> can someone help me with a LTSP Breezy issue.  My monitors are set at 800x600 but the screen is to big. ie..i can't see all the buttons on some boxes.  This is just on the Thin clients themselves.
[05:35] <kchiefs> if i need a different channel to ask this in let me know
[05:35] <definity> hi
[05:35] <djk_> i have a cfdisk process apparently running since apr 22. is it safe to kill it?
[05:36] <freezey> can someone help me out for a few minutes
[05:36] <_jason> !justask
[05:36] <ubotu> Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[05:36] <Jowi> djk_: is it using any resources?
[05:36] <freezey> administrator@server2-linux:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd restart
[05:36] <freezey> /etc/init.d/proftpd: line 19: /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions: No such file or directory
[05:36] <freezey> why am i gettin this error
[05:36] <Tomcat_> apokryphos: http://www.jengajam.com/r/lazy-sunday-chris-snl <--- Press "download"... try that file.
[05:36] <djk_> Jowi: about 90% cpu
[05:37] <GueVaRa> question: trying to get GAIM....but dont know which install file to get....the "autopackage"? or should i get the source to compile??
[05:37] <GueVaRa> and how to run the installation?
[05:37] <Frogzoo> GueVaRa: just use synaptic
[05:37] <Jowi> djk_: very tricky question
[05:37] <definity> dose anyone know where i can get  a green console theme
[05:37] <djk_> Jowi: which seems rather odd, since i only looked at the partition table 2 days ago and changed the swap partitions.
[05:38] <apokryphos> Tomcat_: I don't see any "Download" text there...
[05:38] <Jowi> djk_: is it possible to put the cfdisk to foreground for you? using "fg"?
[05:38] <GueVaRa> Frogzoo: i opened the "autopackage" under synaptic...but how to install it??
[05:38] <apokryphos> Tomcat_: geh, ignore me. Got it.
[05:39] <djk_> Jowi: foreground?
[05:40] <Al-Daja> hi ems[afk] 
[05:40] <ems[afk] > hi :)
[05:40] <Frogzoo> GueVaRa: I have no idea what an "autopackage" is - just search for gaim in synaptic, select it & click apply - done
[05:41] <Plitskin> can someone explain this to me?
[05:41] <Plitskin> I noticed that whenever I'm using windows
[05:41] <arrick> !ask
[05:41] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[05:41] <Plitskin> my laptop gets terribly hot
[05:41] <Plitskin> but when in linux
[05:42] <arrick> !enter
[05:42] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[05:42] <Plitskin> it's cool most of the time...
[05:42] <Plitskin> sorry...
[05:42] <Jowi> djk_: if you have a look at "pstree" can you see if cfdisk is straight under init or has got another parent?
[05:42] <arrick> Plitskin, thats because Windows runs a lot of unnecessary crap, and linus doesnt
[05:42] <freezey> i am stuck right now
[05:43] <freezey> in a rut
[05:43] <freezey> with this damn proftpd
[05:43] <Plitskin> arrick: yeah, I was really surprised since I've been using it for quite a while now...
[05:43] <arrick> haha
[05:43] <Jowi> freezey: what's the problem?
[05:43] <arrick> freezey, whats your problem you are hving with proftpd?
[05:43] <GueVaRa> Frogzoo: hum...thx...but dont see specific built for ubuntu....which one i should use??
[05:43] <GueVaRa> anyone use GAIM?? which install file i should use??
[05:43] <djk_> Jowi: straight under init, no parents
[05:43] <aidehua> What packages are installed by an Ubuntu install CD?  I've debootstrap'd Dapper and would like to now install all the 'usual' packages.
[05:43] <wimpies> HI all, Is there a special IRC for OpenOffice ? I have some problems with text animations
[05:43] <arrick> Gerrath, Frogzoo died a minute ago
[05:44] <_jason> GueVaRa: use synaptic in your administration menu to install gaim
[05:44] <mwe> GueVaRa: install file? sudo apt-get install gaim
[05:44] <ompaul> wimpies, #openoffice ?
[05:44] <_jason> .org I believe
[05:44] <freezey> jowi,arrick: like i edited the conf file and all that since i didn't get it from synaptic i don;t think it installed itself correctly
[05:44] <arrick> Plitskin, I switched all but one of my laptops to ubuntu to get away from the heat
[05:44] <wimpies> no  ... I tried
[05:45] <GueVaRa> _jason: there are so many diff rpm on the GAIM d/l page...which one should i get?? :S
[05:45] <freezey> jowi,arrick: is there a certain command i had to run to install all of it
[05:45] <Jowi> djk_: might be risky to kill it. you only changed the swap?
[05:45] <vapor> New to Ubuntu Linux, want to know how to get an app to launch at startup. (sudo & gksudo does not work)
[05:45] <arrick> freezey, paste your conf file please
[05:45] <axisme> why are you on the gaim page
[05:45] <axisme> and rpm? in ubuntu?
[05:45] <axisme> :-(
[05:45] <freezey> arrick: the thing is i don;t know if i installed it correctly
[05:45] <axisme> open synaptic
[05:45] <_jason> GueVaRa: do this: close your browser, go to System > administration > synaptic, search for gaim, right click > install, apply
[05:45] <axisme> search for gaim
[05:45] <axisme> install
[05:45] <anto9us> vapor, you mean after login to gnome desktop?
[05:45] <GueVaRa> axisme: http:..gaim.sourceforge.net/downloads.php
[05:45] <vapor> greets to all
[05:45] <vapor> New to Ubuntu Linux, want to know how to get an app to launch at startup. (sudo & gksudo does not work)
[05:45] <mwe> GueVaRa: just sudo apt-get install gaim like I suggested
[05:45] <Jowi> freezey: sudo apt-get install proftpd
[05:46] <freezey> arrick: its not about the conf at all... its about the fact that i had to manually put the init.d file into it
[05:46] <Plitskin> arrick: Just now?
[05:46] <axisme> guvara, do what jason said
[05:46] <arrick> freezey, did you "make test"?
[05:46] <freezey> jowi: i did that and it can;t find the package
[05:46] <arrick> Plitskin, yeah
[05:46] <freezey> arrick: yeah
[05:46] <Jowi> !info proftpd
[05:46] <arrick> in the last month
[05:46] <ubotu> proftpd: (Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-22 (breezy), Packaged size: 347 kB, Installed size: 1044 kB
[05:46] <Plitskin> arrick: sweet :)
[05:46] <_jason> ubotu: tell GueVaRa about synaptic
[05:46] <anto9us> vapor, select System | Preferences | Sessions | Startup Programs
[05:46] <Jowi> freezey: section universe. you need the correct repos
[05:46] <mwe> freezey: enable universe
[05:46] <arrick> freezey, did the make test throw any errors?
[05:46] <vapor> Doesn't work in the sessions
[05:46] <Jowi> !tell freezey about universe
[05:46] <freezey> Jowi: the test won't even run
[05:46] <vapor> Launch form the teminal works
[05:46] <anto9us> vapor, what is it you're running?
[05:46] <|neo> can any one helpme  instaling a rt2500 wireless pcmcia card !?
[05:46] <vapor> firestarter
[05:47] <GueVaRa> _jason: thx for the how-to
[05:47] <vapor> anarrgh
[05:47] <anto9us> vapor, firestarter is a frontend to iptables, iptables runs automatically
[05:47] <freezey> Jowi: that will make it able to get that off the synaptic
[05:47] <_jason> GueVaRa: in ubuntu, you don't install files by downloading them.  They make it real easy by letting you do everything from synaptic
[05:47] <vapor> so how do I get the thing to start at system login
[05:47] <Jowi> yes freezey, correct
[05:47] <arrick> freezey, yep
[05:48] <freezey> jowi: if i already have it on my system is it gonna overwrite everything
[05:48] <arrick> nope
[05:48] <freezey> jowi:  or should i just move whatever i edited over to that
[05:48] <axisme> neo, check priv messages
[05:48] <freezey> ok thanks
[05:48] <vapor> anto9us:  ps -A doesn't list it unless I start it
[05:48] <arrick> freezey, it will too, sorry
[05:48] <Jowi> freezey: depends on where you installed proftpd i guess
[05:48] <freezey> ok thanks
[05:49] <anto9us> vapor, the frirewall will function without firestarter being open
[05:49] <axisme> neo?
[05:49] <aidehua> Something like ubuntu-standard or ubuntu-minimal?
[05:49] <arrick> I thought ubuntu was a firewall?
[05:49] <vapor> OK does that mean it is running though it isn't listed in ps?
[05:50] <anto9us> vapor, iptables is part of the kernel, I do believe
[05:50] <freezey> jowi: should i just install all these? under the repositories
[05:50] <dark_fibre> I'm trying to get gtvlistings, a mono based XMTL reader to work. It bombs out with several errors, the important one seeming to be "libglade-WARNING **: could not find a parent that handles internal children for `action_area'". Is there anyone here that could explain what this means or what I can do to figure out what's wrong?
[05:50] <arrick> anto9us, correct
[05:50] <Jowi> freezey: yes, just follow the insctructions. after you're done you just "sudo apt-get install proftpd"
[05:50] <anto9us> vapor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IptablesHowTo
[05:50] <vapor> Well thats good news thought discomforting that I can't verify its existance.
[05:51] <freezey> jowi: oh no i am following them but i am asking if i should install all of these
[05:51] <vapor> Thanks for the help. Will check the link. :)
[05:51] <anto9us> vapor, that web page tells you how to verify
[05:51] <axisme> |neo ?
[05:51] <|neo> yes
[05:51] <arrick> freezey, yes
[05:51] <axisme> did you read what i messaged you?
[05:51] <|neo> yes
[05:51] <|neo> but
[05:51] <axisme> and?
[05:51] <|neo> it does not show any ting
[05:51] <axisme> are u sure
[05:52] <|neo> yes
[05:52] <axisme> ok
[05:52] <vapor> Thanks again. Will be back again in the futer I'm sure. Unix made easy doesn't quite cut it. LOL
[05:52] <axisme> messages again
[05:52] <|neo> i right rt2500 int adapt and does not show ani thing
[05:52] <anto9us> vapor, sometimes it's a matter of unlearning :)
[05:52] <Bilange> just wondering: how fast is ubuntu shipit's service?
[05:52] <Jowi> freezey: if you want all apps under your fingertips, yes. if you only want proftpd and nothing else just install universe
[05:52] <vapor> true
[05:52] <Jowi> brb
[05:53] <axisme> did you read the messages?
[05:53] <_jason> Bilange: 6-8 weeks for me
[05:53] <arrick> Bilange, I live about 8 hours from their location and it took 6 weeks for me to get mine
[05:54] <mwe> Bilange: sometimes fast sometimes slow. Maybe it has improved
[05:54] <MystaMax> hello, I'm receiving a fatal error when restarting proftpd. It states 'Fatal': group: Unknown group 'nobodyy'. on line 20 of '/etc/proftpd.conf'
[05:54] <Bilange> ive read (from outdated forum posts) that the service is somewhat slow, or maybe sent by "batch" of orders
[05:54] <_jason> MystaMax: did you install from the repos, cus that seems to be a typo
[05:54] <arrick> MystaMax, on lin 20 in the .conf file, you have the group set to a non-existing group
[05:54] <|neo> nothing show's
[05:55] <freezey> jowi: it says it can't find the package
[05:55] <slackern> MystaMax: I think it should be "nogroup" for groups and "nobody" for users
[05:55] <Bilange> Anyhow, I guess it gives me plenty of time to get prepared :)
[05:55] <axisme> you added all respoitries?
[05:55] <|neo> yes the one i have
[05:55] <freezey> yeah
[05:55] <|neo> i only have 5
[05:55] <Apostle^> hmm just installing the ati driver automatically works..
[05:55] <freezey> all of the breezey ones
[05:55] <arrick> Bilange, where are you located?
[05:55] <MystaMax> _jason what typo? I'm not sure I understand
[05:55] <arrick> ( i happen to have about 30 or the CDS
[05:55] <_jason> MystaMax: 'nobodyy'
[05:55] <Bilange> arrick: small town in Quebec, Canada
[05:56] <MystaMax> that is my error
[05:56] <definity_> is there a way i can make a script that when i run it will run a command in console
[05:56] <MystaMax> sorry
[05:56] <MystaMax> it should be nobody
[05:56] <arrick> haa
[05:56] <_jason> MystaMax: probably what slackern said then
[05:56] <arrick> give me your address in #arrick, or in a pm and I'll send you 2 sets
[05:56] <|neo> yes the breezy's i have isthe breezy-updates and breezy-security
[05:56] <|neo> and they are enabled
[05:56] <joshritger> i am thinking about testing dapper flight6, is there a easy way to upgrade it to 6.06 when it becomes final?
[05:57] <slackern> I've only used proftpd with gproftp the graphical-ui for it and ran into the same problem.
[05:57] <MystaMax> _jason and slackern THANKS!
[05:57] <MystaMax> it started!
[05:57] <Apostle^> joshritger: yep
[05:57] <MystaMax> slackern: yep thats exactly what I'm doing
[05:57] <Apostle^> joshritger: just do a dist-upgrade
[05:57] <sherab> Hi@all i want to seperate my home folder to an partition, on a running ubuntu-system. What mount options in fstab do you suggest??
[05:57] <joshritger> ok
[05:58] <freezey> slackern: what was the problem u ran into?
[05:58] <MystaMax> slackern: is that the only problem you ran into?
[05:58] <Apostle^> joshritger: you on breezy now?
[05:58] <joshritger> and does flight6 have universe repositories yet?
[05:58] <Apostle^> joshritger: go here
[05:58] <Apostle^> !easysource
[05:58] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:58] <joshritger> i have breezy on my other comp i am on windows now
[05:58] <Apostle^> just make a dapper sources list
[05:58] <Apostle^> and then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:58] <MystaMax> where can I read about how users and groups work in linux?
[05:58] <MystaMax> or ubuntu, if its different
[05:59] <|neo> is their any other way !?
[05:59] <LoMonteiro> Hi, how I do for change mplayer mozilla for real player. I want watch movies in Real Player.
[05:59] <freezey> mystamax: dude did you download proftp from synaptic? or the proftpd.org site?
[05:59] <joshritger> I was just wandering if it is hard to upgrade it, i dont wanna install over breezy if i cant upgrade it
[05:59] <Apostle^> joshritger: it works the same way
[05:59] <axisme> neo
[05:59] <Apostle^> joshritger: sudo apt-get update and then updates come up
[05:59] <MystaMax> freezey: i just did sudo apt-get install profptd
[05:59] <joshritger> ok
[05:59] <joshritger> thanks
[05:59] <axisme> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/r/rt2500/rt2500_1.1.0+cvs20051217.orig.tar.gz
[05:59] <MystaMax> proftpd
[05:59] <axisme> download that
[05:59] <axisme> and compile it
[05:59] <freezey> mystamax: damn that won't work for me
[05:59] <Apostle^> axisme: don't tell people to do that
[05:59] <freezey> mystamax: and i ahve no idea why
[05:59] <axisme> why?
[06:00] <Apostle^> axisme: thats for debian not ubuntu
[06:00] <MystaMax> do you get an error?
[06:00] <Apostle^> and it can break their system
[06:00] <CapNemo> hello
[06:00] <freezey> mystamax: yeah
[06:00] <MystaMax> what is it?
[06:00] <freezey> mystamax: tells me it can't find the package
[06:00] <axisme> i have lots of debian stuff installed on my system..
[06:00] <Apostle^> yea, but it's not safe
[06:00] <MystaMax> you may need to add the other repositories
[06:00] <MystaMax> i cant remember if I did or not
[06:00] <freezey> mystamax: jjust did it
[06:00] <arrick> freezey, which repos did you put in? us? ie?
[06:00] <freezey> mystamax: still won't work
[06:00] <axisme> the other repoitorie is gonna be a debian one anyway...
[06:00] <definity_> is there a way i can make a script that when i run it will run a command in console
[06:01] <freezey> arrick: i just put the ones in that were in the box
[06:01] <Apostle^> definity: yea, use bash
[06:01] <freezey> mystamax: did you try out the GUI version also?
[06:01] <Apostle^> !#$/Bin/Bash or something. google it
[06:01] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Apostle^
[06:01] <MystaMax> yep
[06:01] <definity_> what do u mean?
[06:01] <arrick> ok, change the coutries to us in the repos
[06:01] <freezey> mystamax:  i was reading and it said it just controls everything
[06:01] <MystaMax> freezey: it seems to working good
[06:01] <sherab> Whats the entry in /etc/fstab for a home-partition?
[06:01] <MystaMax> it does
[06:01] <|neo> axisme : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12843 error
[06:01] <freezey> mystamax:  where did u get the gui version?
[06:01] <Trunkz> Well thats lovely
[06:01] <arrick> sorry, change them to ie
[06:01] <CapNemo> is there a way to play mov files (quicktime) on ubuntu ?? totem refuse to play them ?!! and mplayer freeze the whole kernel !!
[06:01] <Trunkz> Figured out that it wasnt really ubuntu's fault
[06:01] <freezey> mystamax:  synaptic also?
[06:02] <Trunkz> but that totem was being stupid with dvds xD
[06:02] <Trunkz> VLC loads the DVDs fine now :)
[06:02] <MystaMax> freezey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588&highlight=ftp+server
[06:02] <freezey> arrick: ok let me see where to change these things
[06:02] <Trunkz> Now, just some kernel stuff
[06:02] <freezey> arrick: where do i change that?
[06:02] <|neo> axisme :
[06:02] <Apostle^> |neo: did you do ./configure before make ?
[06:02] <|neo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12843
[06:02] <axisme> yes one second
[06:03] <r0ver> hi there, do you know if there are a deb package for the module sundance-icplus ?
[06:03] <Trunkz> Odd..
[06:03] <|neo> it does not have configure file
[06:03] <albert> hello?
[06:03] <Apostle^> |neo: odd what are you trying to do
[06:04] <|neo> install the rt2500 wireless pcmcia card
[06:04] <freezey> how do i change which repo's i get?
[06:05] <stormwolf> hi all..does anyone know how to enable sshd on ubuntu so i can remote login to my pc?
[06:05] <arrick> stormwolf, look below
[06:05] <minerale> *possibly inflamatory*: considering vim-gnome & vim-gdk2  ..... which one is faster?
[06:05] <arrick> !openssh
[06:05] <ubotu> somebody said openssh was server and client setup at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[06:05] <freezey> arrick: how do i change the repo's?
[06:06] <stormwolf> arrick: thank you sir
[06:06] <Iceyes> apt get install sshd ?
[06:06] <axisme> found an ubuntu one
[06:06] <axisme> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/r/rt2500/rt2500_1.1.0+cvs20050530.orig.tar.gz
[06:06] <stamen81> hi again
[06:06] <arrick> freezey, open /etc/fstab and change them there
[06:06] <stamen81> how to fix this : http://pastebin.com/679105
[06:06] <freezey> ok
[06:07] <Moox> I try to install Networkmanager on my dapper today but is doen't work. Does-it corrupt actually ?
[06:07] <|neo> axisme :
[06:07] <|neo> same error
[06:07] <freezey> arrick: and u want me to add IE?
[06:07] <AnAnt> some startup scripts give me this warning: Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing.
[06:07] <AnAnt> what's that about ?
[06:08] <darius_> I'm running Dapper Drake beta which has been great.  but there seems to be a lot more CPU consumption while the system sits idle.  Is there a known cause for this?
[06:08] <arrick> freezey, anywhere you see a lint that has http://?? put in ie
[06:08] <Trunkz> How do I remove a kerne?
[06:08] <Trunkz> kernel*
[06:08] <AnAnt> some startup scripts (those in /etc/init.d) give me this warning: Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing.
[06:08] <AnAnt> what's the problem ?
[06:10] <tmjb> how this is posible dhcp3-relay: Depends: dhcp3-common (= 3.0.2-1ubuntu6) but 3.0.2-1ubuntu7 is to be installed
[06:10] <tmjb> E: Broken package
[06:10] <sambagirl> can someone try this ftp tell me if they can connect please
[06:10] <sambagirl> ftp.cctvsentry.com
[06:10] <AnAnt> ????
[06:11] <iBalo> Hi, can anyone enlighten me about the difference between /mnt and /media (what are the intentions behind that?) and why Gnome is showing desktop items for things in /media, but not in /mnt?????
[06:11] <AnAnt> some startup scripts (those in /etc/init.d) give me this warning: Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing.
[06:11] <AnAnt> what's the problem ?
[06:12] <ketsugi> What gstreamer plugin do I need to play mp3s in Rhythmbox? I get the "missing decoder" problem for mp3s as well as m4a files off my ipod
[06:12] <Hattory> hi
[06:13] <AnAnt> ???
[06:13] <Apostle^> ketsugi: have you checked out amarok ?
[06:13] <b3nw> is there a gui cron manager in ubuntu by default?
[06:13] <ketsugi> Yeah, same problem
[06:13] <Hattory> http://pastebin.com/679111 who know what package is needed there ?
[06:13] <Apostle^> ketsugi: use xine
[06:13] <FliesLikeALap> how can I get gnome to stop opening programs when I reboot (it tries to open programs that I had open, in an attempt to recreate my previous session)
[06:13] <Apostle^> ketsugi: sudo apt-get install amarok-xine
[06:13] <ketsugi> I uninstalled Amarok after I couldn't get it to play anything
[06:13] <craize> hello, could someone tell me how i can freeze a package in synaptic, so it will not be updated again?
[06:13] <Hattory> can't find any bmp package that would fit
[06:13] <FliesLikeALap> !tell craize about freeze
[06:14] <ketsugi> I just want to be able to play my music off my iPod using gtkPod
[06:14] <MisterN> hi
[06:14] <ketsugi> Should I install xmms?
[06:14] <mDot> whats the terminal command to stop x?
[06:14] <AnAnt> what is that Fake start-stop-daemon ?!
[06:14] <craize> no freeze
[06:14] <craize> on ubotu
[06:15] <kchiefs> sambagirl..nothing
[06:15] <Apostle^> ketsugi: amarok works great /w ipod
[06:15] <sambagirl> ok thanks kchiefs
[06:15] <craize> uhm, anybody knows how to freeze packages?
[06:15] <Hattory> http://pastebin.com/679111 who know what package is needed there ? can't find any that would fit that BMP thing...
[06:15] <sambagirl> yes you use dry ice
[06:15] <Some1StoleMyNick> i have a question.. i'm currently running a livecd of ubuntu.. earlier today, I burnt 3 JPG image files onto a CD-R, but I can't seem to read them in ubuntu.. any idea why?
[06:15] <marky`> is there a way to tell synaptic not to update certain packages?
[06:16] <pierre-> mDot; 'killall X' maybe
[06:16] <ketsugi> So I've been told, but I couldn't get it to play any music at all, plus I find the interface a bit cluttered. I like the look of gtkpod so far; I'd just like to be able to play music directly off it
[06:16] <Some1StoleMyNick> ketsugi Should I install xmms? <-- o.o ketsugi-kun? :O
[06:16] <Putiikki> Hattory: beep-media-player
[06:16] <|neo> : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12843  can any one helme with this error ?
[06:17] <ketsugi> Er
[06:17] <ketsugi> Do I know you?
[06:17] <Some1StoleMyNick> <-- Hso :P
[06:17] <ketsugi> ...
[06:17] <Hattory> ok thx
[06:17] <Some1StoleMyNick> the question is, Do i know you? :P
[06:17] <ketsugi> Wow
[06:17] <ketsugi> I can't ever escape from you, can I?
[06:17] <ketsugi> ;o
[06:17] <Some1StoleMyNick> ;P
[06:17] <Some1StoleMyNick> how ya doing? XD
[06:18] <ketsugi> all right
[06:18] <ketsugi> getting used to using Ubuntu as my primary desktop
[06:18] <Some1StoleMyNick> good good XD
[06:19] <Some1StoleMyNick> any idea why I can't access some image files i burnt onto a CD-r, that i burnt using WinXP?
[06:20] <williamvergara_> hi, i have a really fast question; how do i add a custom deb package to a local mirror? i would apreciate a link to documentation also. regards
[06:20] <AnAnt> how can I solve that Fake start-stop-daemon thing ?
[06:21] <freezey> arrick: thats not how i did it
[06:21] <freezey> arrick: dont edit that in there
[06:21] <freezey> arrick: bad idea to edit nething from US
[06:21] <freezey> arrick: did everything through the sources.list
[06:22] <|neo> axisme i just found out what was missing
[06:22] <|neo> i didn't had the kernel headers
[06:25] <knoppix> hi all
[06:25] <Trunkz> So guys
[06:25] <knoppix> new2irc
[06:25] <Trunkz> how do I remove a kernel/
[06:26] <arrick> freezey, I had to change it to get a good repo for proftpd to install correctly
[06:26] <AnAnt> hmmm, ok, anyone knows how I can find out what package provides "start-stop-daemon" ?
[06:26] <goldeagle> hi, I need a video player for dixv, with subtitles, I use dapper
[06:26] <ketsugi> Well, installing xmms worked
[06:27] <AnAnt> what is that Fake start-stop-daemon ?!
[06:28] <AnAnt> some startup scripts (those in /etc/init.d) give me this warning: Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing.
[06:29] <lesshaste> is there a linux client for ichat?
[06:30] <CodeWarrior_> hello folks, anyone uses ubuntu 64bit ?
[06:30] <arrick> lesshaste, yeah xchat
[06:30] <knoppix> i have installed but could not install on em64t
[06:31] <AnAnt> can anyone DCC me his /sbin/start-stop-daemon ?
[06:31] <kchiefs> i have it installed at home...i don't use it very much thanks to BF2
[06:31] <axisme> neo, is it working now?
[06:31] <almuleon> ola
[06:32] <lesshaste> iChat is an AOL Instant Messenger (AIM), ICQ and Jabber client for Mac OS X.
[06:32] <raf> lalala
[06:32] <HumanPrototype> hi, i am having problems with initng under dapper. Is anybody using it successfully?
[06:33] <arrick> hey AnAnt here you go http://arrick.no-ip.com:10020/8
[06:34] <MystaMax> hello again, I am unable to create new directories on my ftp server. I am using proftpd, and gproftpd for management... Any ideas?
[06:34] <arrick> HumanPrototype, go to #ubuntu+1 for dapper support please?
[06:34] <gn0m3> Hey has anyoen ever heard of the israfel worm
[06:34] <arrick> MystaMax, have you pasted you .conf file yet?
[06:34] <gn0m3> produced by the Gedzac Labs?
[06:35] <MystaMax> arrick: pasted? where?
[06:35] <arrick> !pastebin
[06:35] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[06:35] <MystaMax> oh
[06:35] <MystaMax> ok
[06:35] <watson540> ure is
[06:35] <watson540> lol u didnt know that?!
[06:35] <gn0m3> noone has heard of it?
[06:36] <qualus> any idea when the KDE - Gnome project should be launching or in it's beta stage ?
[06:36] <watson540> i heward of it
[06:36] <watson540> its main purpose id for freenode
[06:36] <HumanPrototype> arrick, thanks - sorry i didnt know
[06:36] <qualus> heh.. they named it Knome
[06:36] <CodeWarrior_> is there any ubuntu64 channel ?
[06:36] <gn0m3> watson540: do u know how to remove it
[06:36] <ikaruga2099> hello all, great work!
[06:36] <ikaruga2099> I just had one question---does anyone know if there's a Windows Briefcase equivalent for linux? (For those of you who don't know what Briefcase is, it allows you to sync files across a usb stick and hd
[06:36] <arrick> CodeWarrior_, ask in here
[06:37] <CodeWarrior_> arrick: thanks
[06:37] <arrick> np
[06:37] <gn0m3> my hd drive got screwed cuz of the damn worm
[06:37] <felipe__> hi, I need help connecting through ssh to this box. I have the ssh service running and the port enabled on the firewall, I have a adsl modem that gets the dinamic ip and redirects everything to this box. I added a rule to the nat specifiyin to redirect incoming request for port 22 to this box but still I cant connect. Any ideas?
[06:37] <CodeWarrior_> people that use 64 bit Dapper version: is it good to install it or not to use as desktop ?
[06:38] <gn0m3> watson540: do u know how to remove it?
[06:38] <watson540> i thought windows briefcase dies with windows 98 haha
[06:38] <MystaMax> arrick: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12846
[06:38] <arrick> CodeWarrior_, I thought you were going to ask for ubuntu support, try in #ubuntu+1 for dapper question
[06:38] <watson540> remove what?!
[06:38] <gn0m3> watson540: the worm
[06:39] <gn0m3> watson540: u said u knew what it was
[06:39] <CodeWarrior_> arrick: thanks, I'll
[06:39] <watson540> what worm? lol
[06:39] <watson540> i was talking about pastebin
[06:39] <gn0m3> watson540: woops
[06:39] <gn0m3> watson540: x] 
[06:39] <watson540> i didnt know linux had worms :(
[06:39] <watson540> how did u pick it up?
[06:39] <gn0m3> watson540: not for linux
[06:39] <watson540> oh ic
[06:39] <gn0m3> watson540: damn windows
[06:39] <watson540> windows is a virus haha
[06:39] <watson540> :(
[06:40] <gn0m3> watson540: its some random worm sent from israel and it says free iraq
[06:40] <Erika> w linux
[06:40] <gn0m3> ywatson540:       :[
[06:40] <NullVector> music is playing distorted. any ideas why?
[06:40] <arrick> hey MystaMax first we will set it up right, mwe are you here?
[06:40] <MystaMax> ok
[06:40] <MystaMax> im determined to learn
[06:40] <arrick> IdleOne has been lost in the sauce for about 3 weeks now moving to phile
[06:40] <Sonderblade> is it possible to tweak the ubuntu installation cd so that instead of asking you questions, it configures and installs the system from predefined values?
[06:40] <gn0m3> crud
[06:40] <minerale> What is the command line equivalent of System>Administration>Network Setting>Select eth0>"enable this connection",activate,"DHCP"?
[06:41] <gn0m3> i need aa new hd
[06:41] <watson540> wow that sucks bad man
[06:41] <arrick> Hey proftpd conf gurus, we need help
[06:41] <watson540> free israel of all things too
[06:41] <watson540> not  'have a nice day' or anything at least
[06:41] <gn0m3> and the thing is my hard drive cost 650$
[06:41] <gn0m3> i dun wanna dump it
[06:41] <watson540> whoah
[06:42] <watson540> thats why i never anted to buy a massive hdf
[06:42] <gn0m3> its a 147 gig raptor [10000rpm] 
[06:42] <watson540> its a lot of space to lose with just 1 hd going out
[06:42] <watson540> i think the max i would buy is 200 gig ata time
[06:42] <arrick> gn0m3, you paid way to much for a hd, I could have sold you one for 200 and made 200% profit
[06:42] <MystaMax> arrick: what about line 69
[06:42] <minerale> What is the command line equivalent of System>Administration>Network Setting>Select eth0>"enable this connection",activate,"DHCP"?
[06:42] <arrick> hang on
[06:42] <watson540> sounds like a SATS drive
[06:42] <watson540> but way too much indeed
[06:42] <watson540> SATS*
[06:42] <watson540> SATA*
[06:42] <williamvergara_> >	hi, i have a really fast question; how do i add a custom deb package to a local mirror? i would apreciate a link to documentation also. regards
[06:42] <watson540> damn
[06:42] <arrick> hey MystaMax let me look at mine right quick
[06:42] <MystaMax> ok
[06:42] <beware> does ubuntu have any kind of disk diagnosis tools? like SMART, surface scan, etc
[06:42] <gn0m3> yea it is an SATA
[06:43] <watson540> nah i just picke dupa 300 gig IDE for 99 bux at staples :)..the last one they had
[06:43] <williamvergara_> i just need a hint
[06:43] <williamvergara_> thats all
[06:43] <watson540> even their 200 gig'ers cost more than that lol
[06:43] <gn0m3> b/c mine is a 10000 rpm it costs lots mor
[06:43] <watson540> williamvergara_: man dpkg
[06:43] <arllen> ALGUM BRASILEIRO NA REA?
[06:43] <williamvergara_> ok
[06:43] <_jason> !br
[06:43] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:43] <arrick> gn0m3, you price these on www.tigerdirect.com yet?
[06:43] <watson540> williamvergara_: dpkg -i to install a pkg
[06:43] <Unetixs> hey all, I'm having a problem with DHCP. I can't get any leases, even on a known good line straight to my switch. The problem started when I couldn't DHCP with my wireless card (using ndiswrapper), I thought it was an ndiswrapper problem but now I'm not so sure. I tried to DHCP today over eth0 (a normal cat5 connection to a switch) when it was disconnected, and ever since I can't DHCP to anything.
[06:43] <arllen> opa, obrigado
[06:44] <gn0m3> it was a long time ago
[06:44] <watson540> dunno if thats what u were asking
[06:44] <gn0m3> thats why it cost alot
[06:44] <arrick> oh ok
[06:44] <watson540> but the man page is the best docs u'll get prollly :)
[06:44] <VincentMX> arrick, it works, thnx
[06:44] <arrick> np
[06:44] <gn0m3> now its like150-200 buckS
[06:44] <Unetixs> Has anyone ever had a problem like that or does anyone have any ideas as to what I can try to fix it?
[06:44] <watson540> u use DHCP on a cat 5 conn?!!
[06:44] <williamvergara_> i mean, i already have the .deb, i just want to know where in the local mirror i have, i should put it
[06:44] <williamvergara_> just that
[06:44] <Unetixs> watson540: it's a laptop
[06:45] <watson540> williamvergara_: why bother ??
[06:45] <watson540> laptop or desktop so what...
[06:45] <williamvergara_> cuz it is a customized kernel
[06:45] <Unetixs> don't be a douche watson dhcp is useful
[06:45] <watson540> a big beast of a conn like that shouldnt use dhcp u would think
[06:45] <Wass|> Hi, I setup my wireless connection successfully without wep security.  Now I would like to put it on; my router generated 4 digit keys.  should I choose only one of them ?
[06:45] <williamvergara_> that i need for a classroom
[06:45] <watson540> but then again i know jack aboput networking :)
[06:45] <williamvergara_> all the computers will use that kernel
[06:46] <watson540> i would just think for big connections that all the stuff would be like 'hard-coded' in ya know
[06:46] <davidhouse> hi guys. are there any documents out there that explain ubuntu's root policy? i seem to be able to use kdesu with my own password to run commands as root, but not su in a konsole session. anyone clarify?
[06:46] <watson540> not tryng to be an as :)
[06:46] <spikeb> yeah ther eis
[06:46] <Unetixs> you don't seem to know what cat5 is watson
[06:46] <Yango> pear install ssh2-0.10.tgz => phpize command not found
[06:46] <Unetixs> what are you doing in a linux chat
[06:46] <Yango> in what package can I find phpize onubuntu?
[06:46] <watson540> davidhouse: did u edit /etc/sudoers?
[06:47] <spikeb> davidhouse, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:47] <gn0m3> i found this awesome computer
[06:47] <mDot> guys, i need to completely stop x server, is there a kill commnd for that?
[06:47] <watson540> i guess not i was thinking it was lke bigger n t1 but since u said something..cat5 is reg ol ethernet huh?
[06:47] <williamvergara_> killall X
[06:47] <Jimmey__> mDot, CTRL + ALT + Backspace
[06:47] <Jimmey__> or
[06:47] <Jimmey__> CTRL + ALT + F1
[06:47] <davidhouse> watson540, spikeb, thanks.
[06:47] <gn0m3> for 1000$ u get 2 gig ram 500 gig hd dual amd proc and dual geforce 7800gts
[06:48] <spikeb> davidhouse, kdesu is a graphical bit for sudo, in this case
[06:48] <mDot> Jimmey__ that restarts x, or only suspends it
[06:48] <MystaMax> where?
[06:48] <davidhouse> spikeb: yeah, i guessed that.
[06:48] <varsendagger> one thing i don't like aobut gnome is how plain the virtual desktops look, with little or no "little images
[06:48] <Jimmey__> The F1 one then
[06:48] <watson540> varsendagger: imho, gnome is fugly period :)
[06:48] <watson540> i used it for like 3months
[06:48] <Yango> in what package can I find phpize on ubuntu? (or php-devel)
[06:48] <watson540> came crawling back to kde
[06:48] <mDot> f1 suspends it
[06:48] <watson540> although i found it more useful for ertain things
[06:48] <Unetixs> wow this chatroom is useless
[06:49] <Unetixs> go back to windows guys
[06:49] <watson540> Unetixs: go back to your hole
[06:49] <Yango> php4-dev
[06:49] <watson540> go read google man
[06:49] <mlehrer> is anyone here familiar with a module called "thermal"
[06:49] <watson540> no need to criticize us
[06:49] <freakabcd> Unetixs, pray tell how you concluded that this chatroom is useless?
[06:49] <Unetixs> watson540 learn what cat 5 is
[06:49] <watson540> u cant figger your own dang problem  out maybe U need windows!
[06:49] <watson540> cat 5 is ethernet
[06:49] <watson540> and i dont need to cuz i KNOW how to plug a cable into my card
[06:50] <Hattory> hi, i have a CANON IP2000 printer... is there any way to install it on ubuntu?
[06:50] <spikeb> windows is not for those who can't figure out their problems, just for the record.
[06:50] <watson540> its for lazyppl who dont qwanna figger em heh
[06:50] <Unetixs> freakabcd: the chat threads. "How do I kill X", "I went crawling back to kde", "cat5 is faster than t1"
[06:50] <Unetixs> I think I'll go back to #debian
[06:50] <freakabcd> that says nothing of the 'chatroom'
[06:50] <watson540> i said 'i was thinking that' thats bad paraphrasing
[06:50] <mDot> Unetixs bye
[06:50] <spikeb> oooh look, a debian asshole
[06:50] <spikeb> no wonder
[06:50] <Unetixs> sorry if I offended you, if you happen to be intelligent
[06:50] <freakabcd> onl of the current crazy as they may be, discussions
[06:50] <watson540> i never said i was official support anyway lol
[06:51] <watson540> im here to learn something too
[06:51] <watson540> its just so many ppl come in asking every 5 secs its hard to keep up
[06:51] <beware> "cat5 is faster than t1" <- lol.
[06:51] <watson540> its too bad we dont get paid for support then we could accept the slander
[06:51] <Unetixs> what is this we
[06:51] <varsendagger> watson540, have you ever used enlightenment?
[06:51] <beware> if i booted from an ubuntu live cd, can i install packages (into ram) ?
[06:51] <spikeb> Hattory, looks like there might be a commercial thing to support it, but no free software drivers
[06:51] <mDot> Unetixs linux zealots and eliteist are always wecome so you be sure to comback when you feel you want to
[06:52] <freakabcd> lol, please stop this.
[06:52] <watson540> does have a kind of #debian like attitude toward him
[06:52] <spikeb> Hattory, that's what i get from a quick google search
[06:52] <watson540> varsendagger: yeah i tried it about a year ago
[06:52] <watson540> it was ok...a  lot of stuff to learn it seemd just to get some cool things going on
[06:52] <watson540> as far as customizing the loks and stuff
[06:52] <freakabcd> watson540, e16 or e17?
[06:52] <Hattory> damn
[06:52] <watson540> not sure freakabcd
[06:52] <mDot> !enter
[06:52] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[06:53] <Hattory> what's the software?
[06:53] <Unetixs> I just get annoyed when I ask a question about dhcp and I get "wow is cat5 bigger than t1"
[06:53] <me> hi all ?
[06:53] <arrick> MystaMax, it will take a bit, Im writing a conf for you right quick
[06:53] <Yango> why
[06:53] <Yango> not
[06:53] <Yango> ?
[06:53] <Yango> :P
[06:53] <watson540> i just remember it was takling about all the cool new eye candy and i couldnt figger hwo to use any of it haha
[06:53] <MystaMax> arrick: I'm patient
[06:53] <arrick> ok
[06:53] <watson540> Unetixs: noone actually said that
[06:53] <MystaMax> arrick: and i appreciate it
[06:53] <watson540> Unetixs: someone said 'they were thinking that'
[06:53] <me> i am new to ubuntu and trying apt-get its failing
[06:53] <arrick> np
[06:53] <me> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:53] <me> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:53] <watson540> but once u sparked their mind from the 100 oither questions reality came back
[06:53] <MystaMax> me: with what
[06:54] <watson540> so give itup on your #debian attitude
[06:54] <mDot> me pastebin.com
[06:54] <spikeb> Hattory, i'm still looking though
[06:54] <watson540> either shut up and quit bitching or plz leave!
[06:54] <Unetixs> me: you have the synaptic package manager open or you're not suid root
[06:54] <MystaMax> me: you have snaptic open
[06:54] <MystaMax> and you are trying to run apt-get
[06:54] <green_earz> me: sudo apt-get update   then apt-get install name-of-package
[06:54] <me> my conne/join #indictrans
[06:55] <varsendagger> me wtf?
[06:55] <me> join #indictrans
[06:55] <watson540> heh
[06:55] <watson540> spam?
[06:55] <Yango> what does "The following packages have been kept back" mean? why aren't they updated?
[06:55] <watson540> dependancies likely?
[06:55] <spikeb> Hattory, i see an entry on linuxprinting.org for the ip4000, but nothing else. i dont know if that driver would work
[06:55] <Unetixs> Yango: they're dependencies that would break
[06:56] <freezey> mystamax: you there?
[06:56] <MystaMax> yep one sec though
[06:56] <Unetixs> Yango: sometimes a dist-upgrade will be able to upgrade them if it can upgrade what depends on them at the same time
[06:56] <freezey> ok
[06:56] <freezey> mystamax: i just wanted to know that gui of proftp
[06:56] <freezey> mystamax: just what its called so i can download it
[06:56] <aidehua> My fonts in GNOME are smaller than when I was working in Debian.  Where is this configuration stored?  (Is it 75dpi vs 100dpi stuff?)
[06:57] <MystaMax> gprotfpd
[06:57] <freezey> mystamax: is that synaptic?
[06:57] <Yango> Unetixs, yup... the new version needed a extra package
[06:57] <teletubbie> hello
[06:57] <Unetixs> Yango: glad to help.
[06:57] <MystaMax> freezey: Samba 4
[06:58] <teletubbie> why can't  my transfer go faster than 500kb/s?
[06:58] <teletubbie> I'm on a lan connected by wireless :(
[06:58] <MystaMax> woops
[06:58] <patrick_king> im having a problem with swat i cant get :901 working  heres my log from /var/logs/samba/    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12844
[06:58] <watson540> Yango: i said it first
[06:58] <MystaMax> http://mange.dynalias.org/linux.html
[06:58] <watson540> :)
[06:58] <Unetixs> teletubbie: you're probably connected at 11 megabits
[06:58] <Unetixs> teletubbie: 802.11b
[06:58] <Yango> watson540, but Unetixs said my nick and you didn't :P
[06:59] <watson540> Yango: damn..ahah
[06:59] <arrick> MystaMax, have you forwarded the passive port range of 60000-61999 to the ftp server?
[06:59] <tdn> I have some ntfs and vfat partitions that I need to mount. Regular users (or at least one particular regular user) needs to be able to browse and read the contents of these partitions. It works perfectly with the vfat, but not with the ntfs. How do I make an ntfs partition readable for regular users?
[06:59] <teletubbie> I'm connected 48mbps
[06:59] <teletubbie> 77/100 link quality
[07:00] <watson540> tdn: apt-cache search ntfs
[07:00] <tdn> Also I would like it to be mounted readable for regular users on every boot.
[07:00] <MystaMax> arrick: no
[07:00] <patrick_king> !tell tdnabout mount
[07:00] <arrick> MystaMax, how about 49152-65534 ?
[07:00] <tdn> !tell tdn about mount
[07:00] <MystaMax> freezey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588&highlight=ftp+server
[07:00] <MystaMax> arrick: i am connecting over 21
[07:01] <arrick> MystaMax, you still gotta have the passive ports
[07:01] <MystaMax> ah ok
[07:01] <aidehua> fonts> it was because I was using a lower resolution / screen DPI./
[07:02] <MystaMax> so am I changing the PassivePorts in the .conf file?
[07:02] <tdn> The url: http://tinyurl.com/bly9f does not work. I was given the url by ubotu
[07:03] <FaithX> turck mmcache or eAccelerator which to chose?
[07:03] <MystaMax> arrick: where am I forwarding the ports from?
[07:04] <Unetixs> tdn: You need to edit your fstab to give the drive user permissions
[07:04] <arrick> from your router to your ftpserver ip
[07:04] <gymsmoke> hey,  all
[07:04] <MystaMax> arrick: I'm actually doing this @ work
[07:05] <arrick> yep
[07:07] <arrick> hey MystaMax Im gonna paste my proftpd .conf, and let you compare
[07:08] <MystaMax> ok
[07:08] <anabelen> hola
[07:08] <arrick> MystaMax, check this out http://arrick.no-ip.com:10020/10
[07:08] <MystaMax> arrick: my sysadmin said its a permissions issue w/ my www directory
[07:09] <MystaMax> which is the default w/ my ftp server
[07:09] <arrick> yeah,
[07:09] <MystaMax> if i do a ls -alh on my var directory
[07:09] <MystaMax> wwww is listed as root
[07:09] <arrick> do which proftpd
[07:09] <anabelen> hola
[07:09] <arrick> !es
[07:09] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:10] <MystaMax> whats that?
[07:10] <AnAnt> can someone please DCC me his /sbin/start-stop/daemon
[07:10] <arrick> type that in termina;
[07:10] <arrick> l
[07:10] <AnAnt> ?
[07:10] <anabelen> hello
[07:10] <arrick> AnAnt, I already sent you the paste, I dont do dcc
[07:10] <axisme> hi
[07:10] <anabelen> hi
[07:11] <ronove> which package contains xwinwrap?
[07:11] <AnAnt> arrick: I got d/c
[07:11] <MystaMax> arrick: /usr/sbin/proftpd
[07:11] <_jason> !find xwinwrap
[07:11] <arrick> ok hang on myst
[07:11] <MystaMax> it also timed out, when trying to access that URL arrick
[07:11] <AnAnt> arrick: where is it ?
[07:12] <Jimmey__> 'while the bot attacks are on'
[07:12] <Jimmey__> ?
[07:12] <arrick> AnAnt, here http://arrick.no-ip.com:10020/8
[07:12] <AnAnt> thx
[07:12] <arrick> np
[07:12] <_jason> Jimmey__: there were spam bots attacking freenode a few days a go
[07:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'xwinwrap' returned no results.
[07:12] <Jimmey__> Oh
[07:13] <Jimmey__> So someone'd programmed these bots, just to be annoying?
[07:13] <_jason> Jimmey__: yes, pretty much
[07:13] <Jimmey__> _jason, you'd think they'd have better things to do XoD
[07:14] <spikeb> well, it might just be comedy to them or something
[07:14] <spikeb> which would explain it.
[07:15] <arrick> hey MystaMax I was looking over your .conf, how can you allow all logins and denythem at the same time?
[07:15] <MystaMax> i saw that!
[07:15] <MystaMax> and i dont know
[07:15] <Fratteli> fala maluco...
[07:16] <AnAnt> arrick: it doesn't open ?
[07:16] <MystaMax> yea that URL didnt work
[07:16] <arrick> hey MystaMax due to time constraints on my end, I must refer you to others in the channel for help with this, hang on
[07:16] <MystaMax> anAnt: did it timeout
[07:16] <AnAnt> MystaMax: not yet
[07:17] <MystaMax> arrick: thats cool, i appreciate what you've done so far...
[07:17] <arrick> MystaMax, try this http://arrick.no-ip.com:8888:10020/10
[07:17] <dinsley> Does anyone know what that application is called that lets you use remote machines as extra monitors (like a laptop LCD).. the name is on the tip of my tongue but I can't remember.
[07:17] <arrick> AnAnt, hang tight a sec
[07:18] <AnAnt> arrick: ok, it did a receiver time out
[07:20] <arrick> AnAnt, I will have to fix it later, as I have to go to a finals test at college right now please ask again in here.
[07:20] <arrick> MystaMax, did that site work?
[07:20] <MystaMax> good luck arrick! yes it did
[07:20] <arrick> ok
[07:20] <AnAnt> can someone please DCC me his /sbin/start-stop/daemon
[07:20] <arrick> AnAnt, I will have the post here in a second
[07:20] <AnAnt> can someone please DCC me his /sbin/start-stop-daemon
[07:20] <MystaMax> whoa dont spam the channel :)
[07:20] <re|run> I am running ubuntu in Parallels (think vmware for mac) on my macbook pro and am trying to get it setup with the native resolution of 1440x900. How can I do that?
[07:20] <arrick> AnAnt, http://arrick.no-ip.com:8888:10020/8
[07:21] <AnAnt> thx
[07:21] <arrick> np
[07:21] <arrick> I had to add a port
[07:21] <arrick> later all
[07:21] <MystaMax> see ya
[07:21] <rabe> couldn't a virus/trojan just execute commands a "sudo ..." and make big damage?
[07:21] <Fysidiko> rabe: Not without a password
[07:21] <kchiefs> if it had your password
[07:22] <rabe> but isn't it memorized for some minutes
[07:22] <Fysidiko> rabe: That's why it's dangerous to give apps your password
[07:22] <rabe> i mean if i give sudo once in a terminal
[07:22] <rabe> i don't have to enter it again, the password that is
[07:22] <arrick> anyone, if I type pastebot to start it, how do i stop it?
[07:23] <|neo> can any one thell me were can i get the kdm maneger dep's
[07:23] <kchiefs> rabe: i wouldn't worry to much about it...there are virus scanners  for linux if you need one
[07:23] <spikeb> sudo apt-get install kdm?
[07:23] <AnAnt> arrick: r  u sure of this URL ?http://arrick.no-ip.com:8888:10020/8
[07:23] <rabe> ok, anyways, was just a tought
[07:23] <gymsmoke> anyone here skilled at configuring apache2 ?
[07:23] <kchiefs> it's a good thought
[07:23] <arrick> AnAnt, yep
[07:23] <AnAnt> arrick: it says bad URL/syntax in elinks
[07:23] <polpak> gymsmoke, what's up?
[07:24] <MystaMax> anAnt: it works for me
[07:24] <Fysidiko> rabe: If you're worried, you can limit what sudo can do
[07:24] <|neo> it does not find it  i had to download a deb pack and it has dome dependenceis that i cant find
[07:24] <arrick> your browser must be borked, cause it worked for MystaMax
[07:24] <spikeb> AnAnt, it works fine in firefox
[07:24] <Fysidiko> rabe: Not sure how you'd recover from that without a root account...
[07:24] <AnAnt> k
[07:24] <arrick> later guys
[07:24] <gymsmoke> polpak: i've gotten the server up and running ok, but, after spending the last two days going through the apache2 docs, i'm a little confused on config issues
[07:24] <MystaMax> see ya
[07:24] <rabe> Fysidiko: how to limit sudo?
[07:25] <polpak> gymsmoke, what are you trying to config?
[07:25] <Stormx2> come play #trivia folks
[07:25] <Jowi> c u arrick
[07:25] <gymsmoke> polpak: for starters, the default site... i have a directory for / and a directory for /var/www/apache2-default...
[07:25] <Fysidiko> rabe: I wouldn't recommend it on Ubuntu, since you'll have trouble recovering
[07:25] <spikeb> aside from doing a trial sandbox run of EVERY app before actually allowing you to run it, i don't see any way to prevent stupid users from helping viruses along.
[07:25] <AnAnt> k
[07:25] <AnAnt> thx
[07:25] <gymsmoke> polpak: the docroot here is /var/www ... when i access the default site, i get 403 ...
[07:25] <rabe> another question: does GNOME (Ubuntu, have it now) cause confilcts/issues with KDE (Kubuntu), if i want to install both
[07:26] <arrick> hey Jowi , I need to stop my pastebot, its a perl script, and I typed perl pastebot.perl to start it, how do I stop it?
[07:26] <AnAnt> that's a binary file
[07:26] <polpak> gymsmoke, ok, well that's generally a permission problem
[07:26] <AnAnt> how can I copy/paste that ?
[07:26] <Jowi> arrick: no idea. never used a pastebot. maybe you can killl it?
[07:27] <kchiefs> my buddy across the divider here runs KDE with Gnome...no conflicts that i've heard him complain about
[07:27] <arrick> o
[07:27] <AnAnt> can someone just DCC it to me ?
[07:27] <arrick> k
[07:27] <Fysidiko> rabe: You can edit the /etc/sudoers file to limit priv. escalation
[07:27] <rabe> but also for KUBUNTU (kde + apps)?
[07:27] <Fysidiko> rabe: I've never had trouble
[07:27] <AnAnt> or tell me what package does it come in ?
[07:27] <Fysidiko> rabe: They seem to play nicely
[07:27] <kchiefs> on breezy i installed Ubuntu and then apt-get kde-base and whatever else i wanted..i had no issues but now i'm currently on Dapper Gnome only
[07:28] <polpak> gymsmoke, what's the permissions on /var and /var/www and do you have a DirectoryIndex directive, or an index.html file in that directory?
[07:28] <spikeb> rabe, gnome/kde play nicely.
[07:28] <|neo> were can i get more souces ?
[07:28] <rabe> ok, or can i just install kde apps in gnome? i know i can, any guide/tutorial?
[07:28] <rabe> what must i do for this?
[07:28] <tmjb> anyides how to install dhcp3-relay i got this error dhcp3-relay: Depends: dhcp3-common (= 3.0.2-1ubuntu6) but 3.0.2-1ubuntu7 is to be installed
[07:28] <PaoloC> does anybody know why I see FATAL: Module dm_mod not found. every time I update udev? see http://pastebin.com/679294
[07:28] <polpak> rabe, not much. just sudo apt-get install kdeapp
[07:28] <polpak> rabe, where kdeapp is the program you want to install
[07:28] <Fysidiko> rabe: They normally need things like kdelib etc
[07:29] <Fysidiko> rabe: Apt will install them automatically
[07:29] <rabe> ok, so the apt will do the job?
[07:29] <rabe> ok
[07:29] <rabe> and why iare there no updated versions in the Breezy apt? (for ex. firefox, only 1.0.7 (8?)?
[07:30] <kchiefs> you need the kde-base
[07:30] <Papageno> If I have two hdds on one IDE cable, how do I tell my BIOS from which to boot?
[07:30] <polpak> !ff1.5
[07:30] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:30] <rabe> i know
[07:30] <dabaR> cafuego: ping
[07:30] <gymsmoke> polpak: /var = 755 , /var/www = 755. apache2-default definitely has indexes in it.  /var/www (Directory /) has no index, but /var/www/apache2-default (Directory /var/www/apache2-default) does
[07:30] <Fysidiko> rabe: There was a discussion about them, it was decided not to
[07:30] <rabe> i have it but why is it NOT in the repos of breezy?
[07:30] <kchiefs> use the command sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop for kde
[07:30] <Fysidiko>  rabe: Can't remember the reason
[07:31] <AnAnt> can someone please DCC me his /sbin/start-stop-daemon?
[07:31] <spikeb> er
[07:31] <polpak> gymsmoke, well if the DocumentRoot is /var/www then you'll need either an index.html file in there, or you'll need a DirectoryIndex directive
[07:31] <spikeb> why would it be?
[07:31] <vvlaw> ping 192.168.2.3
[07:31] <vvlaw> From 192.168.2.8 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
[07:31] <spikeb> unless it'd be in breezy-updates
[07:31] <kchiefs> rabe: firefox 1.5.0.1 is in the dapper repos.
[07:31] <vvlaw> what's the mean?
[07:31] <vvlaw> ping 192.168.2.3
[07:31] <vvlaw> From 192.168.2.8 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
[07:31] <gymsmoke> polpak: i don't want to allow access to /var/www, only /var/www/apache2-default
[07:31] <scanwinder> i seem to be unable to use chvt as a normal user, it only works as root, as normal user, i get "Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console" is there a way to make it work as a normal user?
[07:31] <Fysidiko>  rabe: Looks like there were problems with 3rd party apps because 1.0.x was integrated for help files etc
[07:31] <knuxxles> anyone has problems with dapper/nvidia drivers?
[07:32] <polpak> gymsmoke, then change your DocumentRoot
[07:32] <dabaR> !dapper
[07:32] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[07:32] <Fysidiko>  rabe: The announcement's available here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=566619&postcount=75
[07:32] <gymsmoke> polpak: oh!
[07:32] <knuxxles> I can't succesfuly install nvidia drivers for dapper drake.
[07:32] <Fysidiko> knuxxles: go to #ubuntu+1
[07:32] <kchiefs> knuxxles: go to the dabbar channel
[07:32] <gymsmoke> polpak: i wasn't aware that each site could have a different DocRoot ...
[07:32] <Fysidiko> knuxxles: That's the Daper room
[07:32] <polpak> gymsmoke, and make sure that /var/www/apache2-default is set 755
[07:32] <rabe> kchiefs: not in the breezy ones!
[07:32] <kchiefs> knuxxles: #ubuntu+1
[07:32] <gn0m3> wow
[07:32] <gymsmoke> polpak: ok
[07:32] <vvlaw> anybody using IBM T30 at ubuntu here?
[07:32] <gn0m3> how do u erase histroy in mozilla
[07:33] <bina1> Fysidiko: i did whatever u says
[07:33] <dabaR> vvlaw: why?
[07:33] <polpak> gn0m3, in firefox?
[07:33] <vvlaw> dabaR, are you?
[07:33] <LoCusF> !flash
[07:33] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:33] <kchiefs> rabe: the new firefox is not in the breezy repos for reason i have no idea.
[07:33] <dabaR> gn0m3: go to comcast.net/faq and find it there.
[07:33] <gn0m3> yea'
[07:33] <gn0m3> um
[07:33] <gn0m3> ok
[07:33] <spikeb> why WOULD it be in the breezy repos?
[07:33] <polpak> gn0m3, edit->preferences->privacy->clear history button
[07:33] <arrick> can one of the ops please kick my "arrick-pastebot" out of here please?
[07:33] <Fysidiko> kchiefs: already sent it to rabe, if you're interested the reason's here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=566619&postcount=75
[07:34] <bina1> Fysidiko: will u tell me
[07:34] <vvlaw> dabaR, ?
[07:34] <kchiefs> Fysididko: thanks but since i use Dapper Only now i don't really care the reason
[07:34] <dabaR> arrick: kill the process.
[07:34] <Fysidiko> bina1: What's up?
[07:34] <spikeb> ahh, you're talking about -backports
[07:34] <spikeb> nevermind
[07:34] <gn0m3> ahh
[07:34] <gn0m3> thanks
[07:34] <dabaR> vvlaw: Ask your question that you have about your IBM is my suggestion.
[07:34] <gn0m3> in the other mozilla
[07:34] <Fysidiko> kchiefs: OK, I'm on Dapper too, just thought you might be curious
[07:34] <gn0m3> prefs isnt in edi
[07:34] <arrick> dabaR, I am about 20 mile from the server, I forgot to shutdown the bot
[07:34] <AnAnt> can someone please DCC me his /sbin/start-stop-daemon?
[07:34] <bina1> Fysidiko: ferro here sorry
[07:34] <dabaR> arrick: no ssh?
[07:34] <Fysidiko> bina1: Ah, that makes more sense
[07:34] <arrick> not from here
[07:34] <Fysidiko> bina1: How's it going?
[07:34] <gymsmoke> polpak: that worked!
[07:34] <kchiefs> Fysidiko: I will proly read it...i was curious once about it
[07:35] <polpak> gymsmoke, =)
[07:35] <vvlaw> dabaR, i'm using T30 now. but i can't using wifi to work :(
[07:35] <bina1> Fysidiko: i did whatever u says
[07:35] <Boglizk> how do i use 'javac' without having to write the path to the 'jdk1.5.0_06' folder?
[07:35] <gymsmoke> polpak: thanks...
[07:35] <arrick> dabaR, if i load a ssh client what would be the systax to killit?>
[07:35] <polpak> gymsmoke, sure thing
[07:35] <rabe> how to create accounts with passwords and rights? (sorry if this is a basic question)
[07:35] <bina1> Fysidiko: try to change GRUB
[07:35] <Boglizk> rabe: System > Administration
[07:35] <|neo> ani one can help instaling  kdm it gives me dependenci eror
[07:35] <arrick> !useradd
[07:35] <Fysidiko> bina1: Still the same error from XP?
[07:35] <ubotu> arrick: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:35] <arrick> !aduser
[07:35] <ubotu> arrick: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:35] <arrick> !adduser
[07:35] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[07:36] <stamen81> please help
[07:36] <bina1> Fysidiko: now got big probem please dont say u wont help me
[07:36] <polpak> Boglizk, put the folder in your path, or make a symlink to javac in /usr/bin
[07:36] <Fysidiko> bina1: You'll have to tell me what the problem is
[07:36] <stamen81> how to fix the snd_ctl_open
[07:36] <dabaR> arrick: you would find out the process number (second column from the "ps aux" command), then kill -9 <procNum> it.
[07:36] <kchiefs> Fysidiko: that is a pretty good reason
[07:36] <Fysidiko> bina1: I'll try my best
[07:36] <Boglizk> i cant really say i got that.. sorry
[07:36] <stamen81> it says failed
[07:36] <AnAnt> nevermind , I reinstalled dpkg, so it worked
[07:36] <AnAnt> thx
[07:36] <Fysidiko> kchiefs: Yeah, still annoying though, especially on 64 bit...
[07:36] <bina1> Fysidiko: now when i choose Boot Xp from BIOS ,
[07:36] <dabaR> cafuego: ping
[07:37] <bina1> Fysidiko: after one beep it just stand
[07:37] <Fysidiko> bina1: Anything on screen?
[07:37] <bina1> Fysidiko: a blank screen whith cursor blinking
[07:37] <bina1> no errors
[07:37] <thoreauputic> dabaR: arrick often you can just do " pkill process-name"
[07:37] <Fysidiko> bina1: We didn't do anything to XP / the XP hard disk last time, have you changed anything on your XP install?
[07:37] <ubuntu> hi
[07:37] <dabaR> thoreauputic: do you use a mac at all?
[07:38] <axisme> hi
[07:38] <dabaR> ubuntu: hello, live CD world
[07:38] <thoreauputic> dabaR: yes, I have an iBook G4
[07:38] <bina1> Fysidiko: no did nothing to Xp i just changed from GRUB
[07:38] <inv_Arp> whats the command to figure out what package contains a certain lib?  libwxsvg.so.0:
[07:38] <bina1> hd2,0
[07:38] <thoreauputic> dabaR: running breezy
[07:38] <bina1> hd2,1
[07:38] <dabaR> thoreauputic: sweetness. Did you install the package cafuego created for the bcm43xx?
[07:38] <bina1> sda,1
[07:38] <arrick> thanks guys
[07:38] <dabaR> You did not, then.
[07:38] <Fysidiko> bina1: So you haven't been able to boot to XP at all since we made changes to Grub?
[07:38] <bina1> like that only
[07:38] <gymsmoke> polpak: i'm going to give the ssl docs at apache2 a readthrough before thwrowing out frivolous questions, but thanks alot for the help... i didn't realize that each site could have a different doc root... i thought that the doc root was for all of apache2...
[07:38] <axisme> sda1 shouldnt be in grub
[07:38] <spikeb> inv_Arp, apt-cache search libwxsvg
[07:39] <dabaR> thoreauputic: have a airport extreme in it?
[07:39] <thoreauputic> dabaR: no, not yet - I haven't much reason to use wireless - does it work for you?
[07:39] <Drowsiness> I have to say... Ubuntu was the most painless linux install for me EVER. Quite impressive as a desktop.
[07:39] <thoreauputic> dabaR: yes, it has airport extreme
[07:39] <polpak> gymsmoke, there is a document root for the server, but each site can also have a document root
[07:39] <spikeb> Drowsiness, and it's supposed to be getting better, install wise, in the next release :)
[07:39] <dabaR> Yes, it works. I am just wanting to ask him a question. I am lazy to read his package. thoreauputic
[07:39] <polpak> gymsmoke, let me know if you have other questions =)
[07:39] <Drowsiness> spikeb: Man.. I can't see how they could improve on it :D
[07:39] <Fysidiko>  bina1: So you haven't been able to boot to XP at all since we made changes to Grub?
[07:40] <thoreauputic> dabaR: well, since it's almost 4 am in .au, he's probably asleeep ;)
[07:40] <bina1> after 2 changes nothing happend,when i tried lot more  5 or 6 times
[07:40] <polpak> Drowsiness, dapper =)
[07:40] <dabaR> thoreauputic: not great, but it works. Works great for no security networks. WEP works great too. wpa is flaky for me now.
[07:40] <spikeb> Drowsiness, livecd installation. you boot a livecd, and assumming it works well, you can run a graphical installer from the livecd
[07:40] <dabaR> thoreauputic: OK, I'll catch him later, if I still have a q.
[07:40] <thoreauputic> :)
[07:40] <bina1> after that i wanna to check my Xp is allright, i boot my PC from Xp today i find this problem
[07:40] <axisme> wpa works great in dapper drake
[07:41] <dabaR> axisme: I am new to it. I lose my association with the access point after some time.
[07:41] <thoreauputic> dabaR: was installing the firmware a problem?
[07:41] <re|run> is there someone who might be able to help me get my macbook pro running full native resolution in a virtual machine?
[07:41] <Fysidiko> bina1: Have you been able to boot to XP at all since we changed grub?
[07:41] <dabaR> thoreauputic: not at all, cafuego made a package that just works.
[07:41] <dabaR> sudo wpa_supplicant -Dwext -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -w
[07:41] <dabaR> axisme: that is the command I use.
[07:41] <bina1> Fysidiko: nope
[07:41] <thoreauputic> dabaR: cool - yes I saw it referred to on ubuntu-devel list
[07:41] <axisme> you on dapper drake?
[07:41] <dabaR> axisme: connects after a few tries, and after a while starts dropping packets, loses association with the access point, and I need to restart that command.
[07:41] <bina1> not even from BIOS tooo now
[07:42] <nevrona> hello
[07:42] <dabaR> axisme: Yes, dapper.
[07:42] <Fysidiko> bina1: That's very strange
[07:42] <axisme> you have network manager installed?
[07:42] <nevrona> does someone knows how can I administer from gnome-terminal the services under dapper?
[07:42] <Fysidiko> bina1: We didn't do anything to your XP hard disk, nothing at all
[07:42] <^tmjb^> could some help with 5.10 and dhcp3-relay
[07:42] <bina1> Fysidiko: yes right
[07:42] <axisme> guess not, since you are doing it manually
[07:42] <Fysidiko> bina1: Shouldn't have made any difference to booting it by changing the HD order
[07:43] <axisme> open a terminal and type  sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[07:43] <dabaR> axisme: that one does nothing for me. In fact, it allowsme to enter the wpa pass, but never enables the OK button to apply the key. Stupid:)
[07:43] <bina1> can i send u my menu.list
[07:43] <axisme> then do sudo gtk-update-icon-cache -f /usr/share/icons/hicolor
[07:43] <bina1> to check
[07:43] <Fysidiko> bina1: via the pastebin
[07:43] <nevrona> does someone knows how can I administer from gnome-terminal the services under dapper?
[07:43] <axisme> log out of ubuntu and come back
[07:43] <bina1> yes
[07:43] <bina1> give me the link
[07:43] <Fysidiko> bina1: go for it
[07:43] <Fysidiko> !pastebin
[07:43] <ubotu> well, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[07:43] <axisme> network manager should then find the wireless networks and connect on its own
[07:43] <polpak> nevrona, what "services" ?
[07:43] <dabaR> Not if it needs a key.
[07:43] <^tmjb^> nevrona, terminal u mean console
[07:44] <axisme> it will ask
[07:44] <evert> error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:44] <evert> error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:44] <nevrona> ^tmjb^, yep.
[07:44] <Fysidiko> bina1: Did you try fixing XP with the recovery console like we discussed?
[07:44] <evert> /skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:44] <evert> /skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:44] <evert> i wanna use skype on my 64 bit system, so i downloaded a normal .deb package but that won't install (becouse i have 64bit) so i downloaded the static qt version of skype , but now i'm getting this error :
[07:44] <evert> /skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:44] <polpak> !tell evert about pastebin
[07:44] <axisme> anyway, do what i said ande come back
[07:44] <nevrona> polpak, chkconfig ones :P those found in /etc/init.d/xxx
[07:44] <polpak> nevrona, you wanting to disable some of them?
[07:44] <^tmjb^> nevrona, apt-get install sysv-rc-conf
[07:44] <nevrona> polpak, Yes :)
[07:45] <nevrona> ^tmjb^, do I get chkconfig afterwise?
[07:45] <dabaR> axisme: I said it asks for the key, but when I type it in, it never lets me press apply.
[07:45] <polpak> nevrona, you can either do what ^tmjb^  said and use that utility, or you can just remove the symlinks from /etc/rc2.d
[07:45] <evert> i accidentily left sry
[07:45] <axisme> you have network manager working perfectly?
[07:45] <Fysidiko> bina1: OK, got the menu file, I'll have a look through it
[07:45] <thoreauputic> evert: skype is 32 bit - it isn't going to work on 64 bit unless you run it in a chroot
[07:45] <bina1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12849
[07:45] <nevrona> polpak, I am not in the mood of file working. :D
[07:45] <Fysidiko> bina1: Got it
[07:45] <brent> is there any way to reset the gnome-panel settings to the default?
[07:46] <polpak> nevrona, your call =)
[07:46] <nevrona> polpak, I had used RH/Fedora for several years.
[07:46] <evert> ok , how can i fix that ? to run it in a chroot ?
[07:46] <dabaR> axisme: one moment.
[07:46] <Fysidiko> bina1: That looks fine
[07:46] <^tmjb^> nevrona,then apt-get install sysv-rc-conf
[07:46] <nevrona> ^tmjb^, ok.
[07:46] <Fysidiko> bina1: And it doesn't get used if you boot straight to the XP hard disk anyway
[07:46] <thoreauputic> !chroot
[07:46] <ubotu> chroot is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[07:46] <nevrona> ^tmjb^, thank you.
[07:46] <nevrona> polpak, thank you.
[07:46] <^tmjb^> nevrona, it is much better than chkconfig
[07:46] <bina1> Fysidiko: yes u r right
[07:46] <Fysidiko> bina1: So when you try to boot to XP from grub, what do you get?
[07:47] <Fysidiko> bina1: still NTLDR missing?
[07:47] <dabaR> axisme: I have to go for a few minutes. And, I do not have wireless here anyhow. Thanks for the tips, I did the gtk update thing.
[07:47] <thoreauputic> evert: got ubotu's URLs ?
[07:47] <axisme> ok
[07:47] <bina1> Fysidiko: in this settings right that i hav given u---there is no such partition
[07:47] <bina1> press any Key
[07:47] <thoreauputic> !tell evert about chroot
[07:48] <nevrona> ^tmjb^, ok... but how do I get chkconfig? I haven't seened it only on Gentoo/Ubuntu.
[07:48] <bina1> rootnoverify -------(hd2,1)
[07:48] <bina1> in this settings
[07:48] <bina1> Fysidiko: in (hd2,0) i think NTLDR missing
[07:48] <engla> Obligatory question: I'm trying to take a screenshot for a bug, but I need 1. the hover (prelight?) effect on a button and 2. A screengrab with a menu open. 1. Doesn't capture to the screenshot (?!) and 2. You can't take screenshots when having a menu open. Solution?
[07:49] <Fysidiko> bina1: I think that should be hd2,0
[07:49] <bina1> Xp is in SATA channel = 0
[07:50] <nevrona> engla, I am sure there are timed screenshots in GIMP
[07:50] <bina1> i hav only one sata hdd
[07:50] <thoreauputic> engla: have you tried using the gimp to take the screenshot?
[07:50] <^tmjb^> nevrona,source http://www.tuxx-home.at/projects/chkconfig-for-debian/ i did not tryit nor i am planing to use it chkconfig use redhat based distros debian is not one of them
[07:50] <polpak> engla, or there ways to take a timed screenshot w/ an Xwindow util
[07:50] <tombs> hi all
[07:50] <Fysidiko> bina1: grub doesn't see them as SATA etc, just as partitions
[07:50] <bina1> Fysidiko: Ok
[07:51] <nevrona> ^tmjb^, ok, so I see that sysv style is used in Debian/Ubuntu?
[07:51] <thoreauputic> engla: or install "imagemagick" and try  import -window root screenie.png
[07:51] <Fysidiko> bina1: If you change it to hd2,0 I think you'll get the NTLDR missing error again
[07:51] <engla> nevrona, thoreauputic thanks. I'm looking for a timed screenshot! Isn't there a cli util for taking screenshots?
[07:51] <bina1> Fysidiko: yes right
[07:51] <thoreauputic> engla: yes, as I said , imagemagick - the "import" command
[07:51] <Fysidiko> bina1: This is really beyond my knowledge of XP, I can't really help you
[07:52] <nevrona> engla, imagemagick
[07:52] <engla> thoreauputic: yeah I see. INteresting, will try
[07:52] <Fysidiko> bina1: You might want to try asking about it in #windows
[07:52] <thoreauputic> engla: you can also do for instance  sleep 5 && import -window root foo.png   etc
[07:52] <^tmjb^> polpak,any idea how to install bloody dhcp3-relay got conflict E: Broken packages?
[07:52] <thoreauputic> engla: although in gnome that may need a different -window
[07:53] <thoreauputic> since nautilus draws the desktop ...
[07:53] <engla> thoreauputic: that worked, import grabbed it all! (at least for the button hover thing)
[07:53] <bina1> Fysidiko: i ha just d/l ---install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz----how to install it
[07:53] <engla> thoreauputic: I'm going to alias that command
[07:54] <thoreauputic> engla: cool :)
[07:54] <Fysidiko> bina1: What're you using? Breezy?
[07:54] <Fysidiko> bina1: And 32 bit or 64 bit?
[07:54] <bina1> 32 bit
[07:54] <bina1> ubuntu
[07:54] <polpak> engla,  You can also use  "xwd -root -out screenshot.xwd" if you don't have imagemagic
[07:54] <engla> polpak: ah, interesting
[07:54] <Fysidiko> bina1:   sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[07:55] <engla> polpak: but what is .xwd?
[07:55] <Fysidiko> bina1: That should do it automatically
[07:55] <polpak> engla, to time it you'd just use "sleep 10 && xwd -root -out screenshot.xwd"
[07:55] <Newbuntu>  in kde how do you kill a second X session that you dont want to be running?
[07:55] <bina1> what that i hav already d/l
[07:55] <polpak> engla, it's an image format. You can use the gimp to convert it if nessicary. But if you already have imageMagic installed that's probably easier
[07:56] <Fysidiko> bina1: Easier to do it with apt, I'd use apt and delete the one you downloaded
[07:56] <engla> polpak: yeah, those commands are pretty equivalent. I already have the work done with IM now :)
[07:56] <bina1> wine_0.9.10-winehq1-2_i386.deb
[07:56] <bina1> Fysidiko: what is this
[07:57] <Fysidiko> bina1: It's wine, it lets you run (some) Windows programs
[07:57] <Fysidiko> !tell bina1 about wine
[07:57] <bina1> Fysidiko: Like
[07:57] <Fysidiko> bina1: There's a database of supported programs here: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[07:58] <bina1> ok
[07:58] <der0b> has anyone here exported data from ms money to kmymoney2?
[07:59] <thoreauputic>  fluxbox
[07:59] <bina1> ok i d/d it on my desktop
[07:59] <thoreauputic> 
[07:59] <bina1> now how i install it
[07:59] <der0b> thoreauputic: fluxbox is a light weight desktop
[07:59] <thoreauputic> der0b: I know
[07:59] <der0b> oh
[07:59] <Fysidiko> bina1: Follow the instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585
[08:00] <thoreauputic> der0b: I take it you didn't get that in utf-8 :)
[08:00] <bina1> Fysidiko: Ok
[08:00] <niklas> i need some help adding my extern cd-burner in fstab
[08:00] <der0b> I'm guessing nor
[08:00] <der0b> I'm guessing not
[08:00] <Fysidiko> bina1: that should get it installed and working
[08:00] <thoreauputic> der0b: what I sent was the utf-8 equivalent of <3 (heart)
[08:00] <niklas> can some1 help me with that?
[08:00] <bina1> ok
[08:01] <der0b> nope I got a ?
[08:01] <bina1> i think i hav to go to widow room
[08:01] <der0b> that's why I thought you were asking :)
[08:01] <thoreauputic> der0b: then your client isn't set for utf-8
[08:01] <bina1> Fysidiko: what u say
[08:01] <thoreauputic> der0b: I see :)
[08:01] <evert> i made a chroot (with the chroot wiki) but how can i install a thing in chroot ?
[08:01] <bina1> Fysidiko: or u gona help me
[08:01] <der0b> is there an advantage to utf 8?
[08:01] <Fysidiko> bina1:  If you follow that guide it should get it installed and running
[08:02] <Fysidiko> bina1: Try to follow it, if you get stuck come back and ask
[08:02] <bina1> i will do it
[08:02] <thoreauputic> der0b: depends - you see more international characters with it
[08:02] <bina1> Fysidiko: what abot my Xp
[08:02] <bina1> Fysidiko: my main Os
[08:02] <der0b> k, I'll look at it..
[08:02] <Fysidiko> bina1: I'm afraid I really have no idea what's wrong with it
[08:03] <Drowsiness> Hello, belkin
[08:03] <thoreauputic> der0b: you can even send "phone" symbols like this (you will probably not see it) 
[08:03] <Rodrigo> !xgl
[08:03] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[08:03] <belkin> Drowsiness hello there
[08:03] <bina1> now i will try some help in window room
[08:04] <bina1> i will be back
[08:04] <bina1> Fysidiko: bye
[08:05] <der0b>  yeah.. got another ?..  I'm reading up on it now
[08:05] <freezey> questiong with proftpd.....question.... why am i getting this error localhost - PRIVS_RELINQUISH: unable to seteuid(session.uid): Operation not permitted
[08:05] <thoreauputic> der0b: I'll get an URL for you
[08:05] <_jason> When i run udo apt-build install vlc I receive an error saying the apckage could not be authenticated.  Is anyone familiar with what I have to do to correct this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12850
[08:05] <MeeKs> i just downloaded ubuntu-5.10-live-powerpc.iso and rebooted my mac holding down the C key and ubuntu didn't boot....anyone have an idea why?
[08:05] <thoreauputic> der0b:  http://mindprod.com/jgloss/unicode.html#SYMBOLS
[08:06] <der0b> lol..  and half of the symbols don't show in my browser
[08:06] <thoreauputic> MeeKs: how did you burn the CD?
[08:07] <thoreauputic> der0b: change the font setting to utf-8 - but even then a few don't show up
[08:07] <thoreauputic> der0b: the font set has to include the symbols
[08:07] <der0b> got ya.  I can see the heart now anyway....
[08:08] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:08] <MeeKs> thoreauputic: i just burned the cd as an ISO in toast
[08:08] <thoreauputic> MeeKs: did you check the md5sum of the ISO and disc ?
[08:08] <MeeKs> yes
[08:09] <MeeKs> they match
[08:09] <Rodrigo> dapper is the new release of ubuntu or is the 5.10 version?
[08:09] <polpak> !breezy
[08:09] <ubotu> Breezy is the current stable version of Ubuntu. If you would like to upgrade to it, the guide to upgrading to Breezy is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:09] <polpak> !dapper
[08:09] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[08:09] <_jason> Rodrigo: dapper is released on June 1st
[08:09] <belkin> how do i turn the sound down without using alsmixer command line ... the volume controll doesnt work ... it will turn down PCM witch is no good i need to turn down front
[08:09] <Rodrigo> humm
[08:09] <thoreauputic> MeeKs: odd then - hoding down C should work
[08:09] <Rodrigo> _jason,  im thinking to test xgl on ubuntu, so i need to update to dapper?
[08:09] <thoreauputic> MeeKs: is it a new world mac?
[08:09] <der0b> is there a way to feed md5sum the known good md5 and have it compare for you?
[08:09] <_jason> !xgl
[08:09] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[08:09] <polpak> Rodrigo, yep
[08:10] <Rodrigo> polpak, hummm , i will update after in my home
[08:10] <MeeKs> thoreauputic: powermac g5
[08:10] <evert> pff , when installing skype in chroot i'm getting packages errors :(
[08:10] <evert> how to fix them ?
[08:10] <thoreauputic> MeeKs: have you previously installed ubuntu on it?
[08:10] <MeeKs> no
[08:11] <MeeKs> i just need the live cd for a few tools occasionally
[08:11] <Rodrigo> !update
[08:11] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Rodrigo
[08:11] <thoreauputic> MeeKs: well, I can't really help, sorry - the Ubuntu CDs boot fine on my iBook G4
[08:11] <MeeKs> how did you burn it?
[08:12] <MeeKs> i just right clicked it hit toast it and burn
[08:12] <belkin> is there anyway i can set the main button .. that when i scroll down over it it will turn the volume down ?
[08:12] <Kronoz> what filesystems can i use that windows and linux will share (as /home) ?
[08:12] <thoreauputic> MeeKs: I burned it in linux using nautilus or gnomebaker ( forget which)
[08:12] <MeeKs> hmm
[08:12] <Kronoz> the ubuntu installer moaned about fat32 and is being difficult with ext2 and won't mount it
[08:12] <MeeKs> might be that then
[08:12] <thoreauputic> Kronoz: you can't really
[08:13] <evert> how can i start synaptic (or adept) from chroot ?
[08:13] <thoreauputic> Kronoz: fat32 doesn't understand *nix permissions amongst other things
[08:13] <MeeKs> ok thanks for the help thoreauputic im gonna try something else
[08:14] <thoreauputic> Kronoz: better to make a fat32 partition as an interim between win and linux
[08:14] <Kronoz> yeah, ok, i'll do that then
[08:14] <thoreauputic> Kronoz: also fat32 is an awful file system anyway :)
[08:14] <Jowi> Kronoz: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd = NT/2000/XP ext driver
[08:14] <Drowsiness> FAT32 is the little file system that could ;)
[08:15] <evert> how can i start synaptic (or adept) from chroot ?
[08:16] <binil> how do i change PATH variable permanently?
[08:16] <thoreauputic> bina: edit /etc/profile , from memory
[08:17] <thoreauputic> bina: that's system-wide though
[08:18] <jenda> Hello... anyone familiar with audacity? I'm trying to make a multitrack recording - but it only does the first one right, all beyond that are way too low (as if it automatically changed pitch about one octave down. any ideas?
[08:18] <_jason> thoreauputic: I believe that does not get sourced when you log into gnome, it gets set in /etc/login.defs for gnome and binil you can use ~/.gnomerc for a change just for your user
[08:18] <thoreauputic> bina: or possibly /etc/bash.bashrc
[08:18] <Gosha> ... can grub run without linux?
[08:18] <binil> ok thanks. Let me try it
[08:19] <thoreauputic> _jason: hmm - I think you may be right - I thinlk /etc/bash.bashrc would be sourced though
[08:19] <binil> jason: i cant find .gnomerc
[08:19] <_jason> thoreauputic: yeah, whenever he starts a shell, but I think gnome menu items wouldn't be aware of it
[08:19] <_jason> binil: just create it
[08:20] <binil> jason:did u mean .loginrc?
[08:20] <Gosha> ... can grub run without linux?
[08:20] <thoreauputic> binil: why do you need to cahnge $PATH ?
[08:20] <_jason> binil: I'm not aware of what that file does
[08:20] <kingspawn> Gosha: Yes, grub has nothing to do with linux
[08:20] <_jason> binil: (but I use ~/.gnomerc and it works for sure)
[08:20] <thoreauputic> Gosha: I don't think so - it needs /boot/grub/menu.list
[08:21] <binil> thoreauputic: i updated the path in /etc/login.But the change i not seen when i login in graphical mode
[08:21] <thoreauputic> kingspawn: doesn't grub need to reference menu.list? Unless on a floppy etc ?
[08:21] <binil> jason: what to add to the file gnomerc?
[08:22] <Gosha> ...aaah
[08:22] <Gosha> ...
[08:22] <Gosha> ... does it or not?
[08:22] <thoreauputic> binil: don't forget the dot - ~/.gnomerc
[08:22] <Jowi> Gosha, thoreauputic: maybe if a bootpartition is created?
[08:22] <thoreauputic> Gosha: you can run grub from a floppy
[08:22] <_jason> binil: for example: PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"
[08:22] <Nomad411> Hi,  Is there a favorite version of java fo ruse in 5.10?
[08:22] <Gosha> blllehr?
[08:23] <binil> jason:ok thanks
[08:23] <thoreauputic> Gosha: otherwise I think it needs a boot partition as Jowi says
[08:23] <Gosha> thoreuputiv?
[08:23] <Gosha> c
[08:23] <kingspawn> thoreauputic: It needs to reference it, but it doesn't need to be on a linux partition :)
[08:23] <binil> Nomad411: but i need sun's jsdk
[08:23] <thoreauputic> kingspawn: OK
[08:23] <Nomad411> binil: ?
[08:23] <Gosha> .... how do i delete it then?
[08:23] <binil> Nomad411:sorry....
[08:24] <thoreauputic> kingspawn: but it sounds like a hassle for Gosha in any case
[08:24] <Papageno> I am using a live CD of Ubuntu 5.04 to download the iso image of the install CD of Ubuntu 5.10 so I can install it. What application should I use to burn the iso image onto a CD?
[08:24] <Nomad411> is blackdown better?
[08:24] <kingspawn> thoreauputic: no doubt
[08:24] <thoreauputic> Gosha: why do you need to?
[08:24] <codecaine> hi how come I can't get sound to play on flash videos on webpages on ubuntu
[08:24] <_jason> ubotu: tell Papageno about burniso
[08:24] <Gosha> i mean ... if i delelte my linux partion .. with grub stuff on it .. will the computer be unable to start?
[08:24] <Drowsiness> Nomad411: I never had luck with Blackdown Java.. it always behaved weird for me, so I stick with Sun's
[08:24] <codecaine> but sound works on the pc
[08:24] <Rodrigo> _jason, how i update my ubuntu to dapper?
[08:24] <thoreauputic> Gosha: probably
[08:24] <Nomad411> ok
[08:24] <_jason> ubotu: tell Rodrigo about upgrade
[08:24] <Nomad411> !java
[08:24] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:24] <Papageno> _jason: Thanks.
[08:25] <thoreauputic> Gosha: what other OS do you have on the drive?
[08:25] <Nomad411> !javadebs
[08:25] <Gosha> Windows XP
[08:25] <Jowi> Gosha: the MBR can not be deleted, only overwritten. for example, when you install windows, the windows installer overwrites MBR with its own contents.
[08:25] <codecaine> if you add to the respirtory java is installed for u
[08:25] <Rodrigo> _jason,  whoa! thanks
[08:25] <|neo> my linux is booting in text mod how do i change that
[08:25] <thoreauputic> Gosha: you will need the windows rscue CD I think ( fixmbr or something)
[08:25] <Gosha> want kind of delete ubuntu and make one really small partiotion for win 98 and another one for 'fun'
[08:25] <kingspawn> Gosha: Just use your WinXP cd to boot up into rescue mode, and use the fixmbr tool to rewrite the Windows mbr on the disk. Then delete the linux partition from within windows
[08:25] <|neo> my log in is in text mode
[08:25] <thoreauputic> *rescue
[08:26] <polpak> |neo, how did you install?
[08:26] <Gosha> ... it's an "wierd XP CD"
[08:26] <Gosha> ... i call it like that for now ...
[08:26] <|neo> i had some problems instaling the kdm maneger
[08:26] <Gosha> it's a chopped down version of win xp
[08:26] <Jowi> Gosha: as kingspawn said: fixmbr and fixboot probably works in rescue mode
[08:26] <polpak> |neo, well that's probably why then
[08:26] <|neo> and it started to do this now its fixed but i is still ding this
[08:27] <Gosha> don't have any leagal XP CD
[08:27] <ompaul> |neo, >>sudo dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg<< and choose >VESA< as the card type can help
[08:27] <Gosha> ... never got one to my computer ..
[08:27] <Gosha> it was all on the harddrive
[08:27] <Drowsiness> If you have a coppy of FDISK on a Windows boot floppy, you can do fdisk /mbr
[08:27] <jenda> Anyone know anything about audacity?
[08:27] <Drowsiness> copy*
[08:27] <Jowi> Gosha: you can even do it in dos: fdisk /mbr
[08:27] <livingdaylight> anyone  know about thunderbird 'Themes'?
[08:27] <Gosha> ... well i think i got a floppy at least
[08:27] <Stormx2> How do you stop people from pinging you?
[08:28] <livingdaylight> when i try to install themes im told i ca't because it doesn';t integrate with Firefox?
[08:28] <kingspawn> Gosha: You can also download something called the Ultimate Boot CD, it has all kinds of tools on it.
[08:28] <Drowsiness> Stormx2: You can't! muahahaha
[08:28] <Stormx2> Drowsiness: Bastard.
[08:28] <_jason> you can disconnect your internet
[08:28] <ompaul> Stormx2, you have been in this channel long enough
[08:28] <Drowsiness> Stormx2: I am just kidding. You can block the pings in a firewall or router, but what good is it? :D
[08:29] <alchemist__> hola
[08:29] <ompaul> !es
[08:29] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:29] <codecaine> anybody else can't hear sound on there flash?
[08:29] <_jason> codecaine: are you using the default version of firefox in breezy?
[08:30] <codecaine> yes
[08:30] <Gosha> .... meh, i think i'll be okay with the CD
[08:30] <Gosha> floppy*
[08:30] <ompaul> codecaine, have you read the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ?
[08:30] <Drowsiness> codecain: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75237.html helped me
[08:30] <codecaine> naw
[08:30] <Gosha> where do i get a copy of fdisk?
[08:30] <ompaul> codecaine, have a look at them
[08:31] <ompaul> Gosha, it is on the ubuntu live CD
[08:31] <Gosha> ?
[08:31] <Gosha> .....
[08:31] <ompaul> !patience
[08:31] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[08:31] <_jason> codecaine: let me know if you still have problems after reading that
[08:31] <Gosha> meh, can't i download it from somewhere?
[08:31] <Gosha> not really in a mood to search that CD up
[08:31] <ompaul> Gosha, have you a working ubuntu install?
[08:32] <Gosha> ...huh?
[08:32] <Gosha> well ubuntu works so i guess so
[08:32] <teletubbie> why can't  my transfer go faster than 500kb/s?
[08:32] <ompaul> Gosha, well sudo fdisk /dev/partitionyouwanttodostuffto
[08:32] <teletubbie> I'm on wireless lan @48mbps
[08:32] <Gosha> Huuuh?
[08:33] <kingspawn> ompaul: He wants to put fdisk.exe on a floppy and erase his mbr :)
[08:33] <gn0m3> hey
[08:33] <DShepherd> hey
[08:33] <helfrez> teletubbie, u on AC power or battery?
[08:33] <gn0m3> anyone know any good hacks for linux?
[08:33] <ompaul> kingspawn, ohh I would not know anything about windows or that
[08:33] <ompaul> gn0m3, what do you mean
[08:33] <gn0m3> tweaks/mods anything of that sort
[08:33] <DShepherd> gn0m3: what do you want to hack?
[08:33] <teletubbie> I'm ona desktop pc here
[08:33] <Drowsiness> gn0m3: I know of a good virus you can install... they call it "WIndows"
[08:33] <teletubbie> I use gftp to transfer files
[08:33] <kingspawn> Gosha: just google for fdisk.exe
[08:33] <gn0m3> ?
[08:34] <DShepherd> gn0m3: changing your wallpaper is a great mod! :-D
[08:34] <Gosha> oh, okay
[08:34] <gn0m3> i should do that huh
[08:34] <helfrez> gn0m3, hacks and tweaks are 2 dif things in this world...
[08:34] <Gosha> http://www.filebot.org/Utilities/File-Disk-Management/item12239-2.htm
[08:34] <Gosha> is that good?
[08:34] <DShepherd> gn0m3: yup
[08:34] <gn0m3> i know
[08:34] <gn0m3> i mean tweaks
[08:34] <Gosha> oh, it costs
[08:34] <ompaul> gn0m3, there are thousands
[08:34] <helfrez> gn0m3, tweaks, i dont think u could live long enough to count all the possibel mods/tweaks lol
[08:34] <gn0m3> or any good programs or apps
[08:34] <gn0m3> anything that stands out
[08:35] <gn0m3> like a really good tweak
[08:35] <ompaul> !tell gn0m3 about repos
[08:35] <Rodrigo> !xgl
[08:35] <helfrez> your gonna have to be a heckuva lot more specific
[08:35] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[08:35] <gn0m3> ompaul: ive dont that
[08:35] <gn0m3> ummmm
[08:35] <DShepherd> gn0m3: here what.. find one thing you want us to help you with.. and then ask ur questions..
[08:36] <simpo> This are my fdisk and fstab results : http://rafb.net/paste/results/kGnHCC98.html http://rafb.net/paste/results/EthyHF86.html can somebody look at it and tell me what should i do to get GRUB working, please...
[08:36] <Gosha> should i just put it on a CD?
[08:36] <DShepherd> one specific thing that is
[08:36] <Gosha> floppy?
[08:36] <Gosha> *
[08:36] <Gosha> and that's it=
[08:36] <jenda> Hello... anyone familiar with audacity? I'm trying to make a multitrack recording - but it only does the first one right, all beyond that are way too low (as if it automatically changed pitch about one octave down. any ideas?
[08:36] <gn0m3> lemme think----> anything to help me with my biology?
[08:36] <gn0m3> like an app
[08:36] <gn0m3> :O
[08:36] <ompaul> Gosha that stop your spamming, put all your thoughts on one line in a specific qestion thanks
[08:36] <helfrez> thats like askign Jacques Coosto to tell u about fish...be specific
[08:36] <helfrez> biology hmm
[08:36] <DShepherd> gn0m3: packages.ubuntu.com <-- do a search for biology there.
[08:37] <Gosha> lol, okay, is it okay to just put it on a floppy? does it need anything moore?
[08:37] <Gosha> !fish
[08:37] <ubotu> [fish]  A way to access another computer's files using a simple SSH shell account and standard UNIX utilities on the remote side.
[08:37] <helfrez> education i general u wanna check out edubuntu or at leats kdedu package
[08:37] <secureboot> how can i change the default settings on my printer?  When I click something like the duplex box, the next time i open up the printer, the box is unclicked again.  The cups webinterface is disabled, so how exactly am I supposed to do this?
[08:37] <guest> when directions say : 1) cp Makefile.x Makefile  // x is your kernel ::>> what do i put for the kernal or how do i figure it out?
[08:37] <DShepherd> gn0m3: or try synaptic/apt/aptitude.. and do a search for biology there..
[08:37] <helfrez> secureboot, your desktop env shoudl be abel to do it
[08:38] <helfrez> secureboot, printers in gnome or kcontrol printers in kde
[08:38] <MystaMax> Hello, I cannot create any directories on my ftp server, if I change the user/group to root/root so that the server runs as this user/group will that fix my problem?
[08:38] <Gosha> ...well?
[08:38] <secureboot> helfrez: yes - the default desktop env in Ubuntu - but how do it exactly, is the question
[08:38] <ompaul> gn0m3, at the command line do this>> apt-cache search biology | more <<  then if you see anything interesting install it using synaptic
[08:38] <secureboot> helfrez: that's what I'm doing - when i make a change there, it doesn't "stick"
[08:38] <helfrez> MystaMax, what system > administration > Printing
[08:38] <Gosha> ...oh, btw.. should i do the fix /mbr before or after the deletion?
[08:39] <helfrez> hmmm doesnt stick...if u modify it and save setting it should
[08:39] <MystaMax> hellfrez: I'm not sure I understand what you asking
[08:39] <helfrez> if it doesnt you may wanna file a bug report, ive never seen it not save changes
[08:39] <guest> how do i knwo hat my kernal is?
[08:39] <helfrez> MystaMax, sorry miss quote i meant to ask u what ftp server
[08:39] <ompaul> guest, uname -r
[08:39] <helfrez> MystaMax, that was a reply to secureboot
[08:39] <MystaMax> ok, I'm running proftpd
[08:40] <blindx> how do I compile a c program with gcc via terminal? is it gcc foo.c -o foo  ?
[08:40] <MystaMax> and using gproftpd to manage
[08:40] <gn0m3> ompaul: omp im not getting any soujnd
[08:40] <secureboot> helfrez: how do you "save setting"?
[08:40] <ompaul> !sound
[08:40] <ubotu> rumour has it, sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[08:40] <ompaul> gn0m3, ^^^^
[08:40] <MystaMax> !ftp
[08:40] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[08:40] <helfrez> secureboot, let me add printer right quick so i can give u exact setting
[08:40] <secureboot> helfrez: you go to properties, to modifiy things, but it doesn't save the settings
[08:40] <secureboot> helfrez: thanks
[08:41] <codecaine> is the new distro of ubuntu way better then the stable version?
[08:41] <MystaMax> !proftpd
[08:41] <ubotu> MystaMax: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:41] <ompaul> codecaine, its shaping up that way
[08:41] <helfrez> MystaMax, i would have to check gproftpd, but i know in the proftpd config there is a setting for write access, are u getting any errors
[08:43] <MystaMax> helfrez: I'm using FileZilla on windows to connect to the server, when I try and create a directory, I receive the following: Command:     MKD test2 Response:     550 test2: Perrmission denied
[08:43] <kingspawn> blindx: It is
[08:44] <blindx> thanks kingspawn
[08:44] <ssam> did anyone remember reading recently (i think on a blog) about a tool for finding duplicate music files
[08:44] <kingspawn> blindx: if you omit "-o foo" you get an executable named a.out
[08:44] <MystaMax> helfrez: here is my config http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12846
[08:44] <re|run> I'm running ubuntu on my macbook pro under a Parallels virtual machine. I'm trying to get full resolution (1440x900) but so far, no dice. I have messed around with the xorg.conf but haven't gotten anywhere. Is there someone who might be able to help me?
[08:44] <kingspawn> ssam: shouldnt be very hard to do by yourself. for comparing two files you can run "cmp file1 file2"
[08:45] <blindx> kingspawn, but -o foo is telling it to output into the executable "foo" instead of a.out, correct?
[08:45] <gn0m3> no luck
[08:45] <gn0m3> omg
[08:45] <kingspawn> blindx: Right on the money. You getting into programming?
[08:45] <gn0m3> i dont have sound
[08:45] <gn0m3> i had it 20 minutes ago
[08:45] <gn0m3> now its gone
[08:45] <polpak> !enter
[08:45] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[08:45] <ssam> kingspawn, someone was talking about a tool, that could do it even if the songs had different encoding and tags
[08:45] <Apostle^> gn0m3: check alsamixer
[08:45] <ompaul> gn0m3, what have you done  in the last 20 minutes?
[08:45] <blindx> kingspawn, just found a bunch of c and c++ books I didn't even know I had.
[08:45] <gn0m3> nuthing
[08:45] <polpak> blindx, =)
[08:46] <gn0m3> thats y im lost
[08:46] <kingspawn> ssam: Oh, thats another story :)
[08:46] <kingspawn> blindx: Hehe, cool. Just ask if you need any help.
[08:46] <blindx> "the basics of programming in c" "C" "learn c++ in 24 hours" -- ha "C: a programming guide (second edition)"
[08:46] <Iceyes> what do i need to do to play .mp3?
[08:46] <polpak> !mp3
[08:46] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:46] <re|run> can anyone see me or am I invisible?
[08:46] <AnAnt> I got a problem with some keys in Ubuntu, when I press Shift+PageUP in virtual console I get this error:
[08:46] <AnAnt> [4297700.617000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[08:47] <AnAnt> [4297700.617000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[08:47] <AnAnt> re|run: I can see u
[08:47] <kingspawn> re|run: Invisible!
[08:47] <AnAnt> why is that ?
[08:47] <gn0m3> 56
[08:47] <Gosha> what exactly do i need on a floppy to make it able to boot correctly to fix my mbr?
[08:47] <blindx> kingspawn, would you recommend learning c then c++, or just going into c++ ?
[08:47] <gn0m3> can someone make my linux run like windows?
[08:47] <gn0m3> this is complicated
[08:47] <secureboot> i had to remove gcj and install sun's java - however, now i can't get eclipse to start from the menu, even when i ran update-alternatives --config java to point to sun's new java.  I get an error that /usr/lib/j2sdk1.4-sun/bin/java can't be found, when the java binary is in /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java
[08:47] <ompaul> gn0m3, so check cables if you have done nothing - if you have played a video on line or used skype or some such shut down your audio appliactions and restart them
[08:47] <secureboot> how do i make ubuntu know that java binary is now there?
[08:47] <gn0m3> ok
[08:47] <gn0m3> ill try
[08:47] <polpak> re|run, you need to check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see what it's saying as far as supported display modes for your video card
[08:48] <ompaul> !tell secureboot about jave
[08:48] <ompaul> !tell secureboot about java
[08:48] <blindx> gn0m3, my linux has been running like windows haha. nautilus would freeze, then when i did a force quit, it would reopen, and freeze again.
[08:48] <ompaul> !tell secureboot about javadebs
[08:48] <re|run> thanks polpak, i'll try that
[08:48] <ompaul> secureboot, that will give you lots of java
[08:48] <kingspawn> blindx: Depends on what you want to use it for. If you learn C++, you basically know C, but not so the other way around. Still, if you'd like to tinker around with low level stuff like filesystems and kernels etc. C is the way to go (currently)
[08:48] <fw6> obm
[08:48] <guest> what is th link for pastbin?
[08:48] <fw6> obm
[08:48] <polpak> kingspawn, or assembler
[08:48] <blindx> !tell guest about pastebin
[08:49] <kingspawn> polpak: Well, yeah
[08:49] <codecaine> u can low level in c++ too
[08:49] <polpak> blindx, if you want to work with a higher level language check out python
[08:49] <polpak> blindx, or ruby, though I haven't used ruby myself
[08:49] <kingspawn> codecaine: Well, yeah, just that the kernel is built with C and assembler.
[08:49] <blindx> assembly looks.. difficult haha. i remember going to buy a book, and the book was hard to lift. i changed my mind in that instant.
[08:49] <secureboot> ompaul: so silly - update-alternatives should actually update the alternatives, in this case, point to the right java.  It found the right jre, but eclipse won't point to it
[08:49] <spikeb> LOL blindx
[08:49] <spikeb> blindx, good idea.
[08:50] <blindx> lmfao
[08:50] <kingspawn> polpak: I'd go with Ruby. I use both, and Ruby is neater
[08:50] <hachre> hi guys
[08:50] <kingspawn> blindx: Good free assembler books on the net
[08:50] <hachre> does anyone use a asus a8n vm csm board?
[08:50] <helfrez> MystaMax, sorry had to do some real work...looked at the config...do u have the perms correct on the login dir?
[08:50] <MystaMax> lemme check
[08:50] <blindx> so ruby is neater than python?
[08:51] <ghost> !kernel
[08:51] <polpak> blindx, it's a personal preference
[08:51] <helfrez> MystaMax, usually its something off with user group for proftpd or the user:group for the client
[08:51] <ompaul> secureboot, ahh just a min I was told this a while ago
[08:51] <MystaMax> so are u suggesting I change something?
[08:51] <re|run> polpak: in the 1440x900 (native) line it says VESA(0) ... no mode of this name
[08:51] <kingspawn> blindx: preference, but I think Ruby is better laid out, and with better support for regexing and generally doing more with less.
[08:52] <helfrez> the user test...is that a valid system account or does it not have a valid shell
[08:52] <guest> could some one help me with this please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12851
[08:52] <helfrez> and what is the default server root its login into
[08:52] <polpak> re|run, ah.. that's why then. You need to change your driver to one specific for your card
[08:52] <helfrez> that may be where the problem lies
[08:53] <re|run> polpak: what would I use as a specific one for a virtual machine?
[08:53] <MystaMax> it is not a valid system account
[08:53] <MystaMax> ok, im starting to understand
[08:53] <polpak> re|run, I couldn't say. I've never used a virtual machine. It's probably in the documentation though
[08:53] <re|run> hm... k
[08:53] <polpak> re|run, the documentation for the virtual machine that it
[08:53] <ompaul> secureboot, sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-'uname -r'  << that helped me
[08:53] <polpak> re|run, err that is
[08:54] <re|run> polpak: yeah... :-)
[08:54] <AnAnt> what package includes setfont ?
[08:54] <MystaMax> how do I set it up so I can use my user account I created when setting up ubuntu?
[08:54] <re|run> polpak: thanks for the help. let me go agoogling and see what I can dig up.
[08:54] <re|run> polpak: greatly appreciate it.
[08:55] <ompaul> secureboot, that is when update-alternatives fails you for splash and other strange stuff
[08:55] <guest> can some one help me copy a file?? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12851
[08:56] <blindx> guest, is your Makefile.2.6.12-10-386 in that directory?
[08:56] <helfrez> MystaMax, i think it uses pam auth by default and you should be able to set the group for it to read and add users to the group....proftpd is a pain soemtimes and i find it easiest to configure if u start from the default config and edit it manually
[08:56] <guest> no i dont know were it is
[08:57] <mzuverink> Does anyone know what I need to do to make firefox utilize real player 10.  Is that what mozplugger does, add the plugins(I actually know it does,but does it do it in firefox)?
[08:57] <guest> how cani find it?
[08:57] <DShepherd> so debian sarge deb packages work with ubuntu?
[08:57] <helfrez> gproftpd doesnt comment its config which makes it hard to understand what its doing
[08:57] <DShepherd> so =  do?
[08:57] <guest> i dont know if it exits
[08:57] <ompaul> guest,  >> sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 << I think that is what it wants
[08:57] <blindx> try find -name 'Makefile.2.6.12-10-386' /
[08:57] <Jimmey_1> DShepherd, the debian sarge package for Yafray did for me...
[08:57] <FliesLikeALap> !tell FliesLikeALap about ntfs
[08:58] <MystaMax> helfrez: maybe i should start all over
[08:58] <DShepherd> Jimmey_1: ok... do you know if that is a generic thing? or it just works sometimes and it doesnt sometimes
[08:58] <helfrez> i prefer to user vsftpd, and stopped using proftpd for that reason....i would check for a default config file in docs and start from there, its usually very easy to see what needs to be changed
[08:58] <Jimmey_1> DShpherd, I'm betting that it'll work
[08:58] <Jimmey_1> But I don't know for sure
[08:58] <blindx> guest, sorry it should be: find / -name 'Makefile.2.6.12-10-386'
[08:58] <DShepherd> ok
[08:58] <picur> How to install metacity themes??
[08:59] <Jimmey_1> picur, open the theme manager, and drag into that window the appropriate .tar.gz
[08:59] <polpak> !themes
[08:59] <goldeagle> HedgeMage: Hello, I need your help, I try do nickserv identify, but I dont have my password and my e-mail is wrong, can you help me ?
[08:59] <helfrez> MystaMax, im installign it reall quick to see hwo it looks,
[08:59] <MystaMax> hefrez: u say i should check for a default config in 'docs' , Where is docs?
[08:59] <polpak> !tell picur about themes
[08:59] <MystaMax> ok
[08:59] <spikeb> another idea is to install gnome-art
[08:59] <MystaMax> man i really appreciate it
[08:59] <HedgeMage> goldeagle: please drop me a /msg so we don't clog up #ubuntu with our discussion and I will help you :)
[08:59] <spikeb> it's a nice little app that lets you browse and install themes from art.gnome.org
[09:00] <debbie_Anne> Okay, xubuntu live and running... Now that I know the login info ;-O
[09:00] <helfrez> MystaMax, /usr/share/doc/proftpd
[09:00] <spikeb> debbie_Anne, cool
[09:00] <MystaMax> thx, i'm going now
[09:00] <debbie_Anne> ;-D
[09:01] <helfrez> MystaMax, installed apps usually do a good job of placing a copy of the default config file in docs folder
[09:01] <MystaMax> now i know, thats a valuable tip, thanks
[09:01] <debbie_Anne> Yes, my sister is call Suzie ;-)
[09:01] <AnAnt> anyone knows what package contains setfont ?
[09:01] <picur> Jimmey_1, I tryed but it says... The file format is invalid
[09:01] <Gosha> .... again : :P My partitions [37gb Win partion|34 GB Linux partion|1 gb Swap Memoryy]  ... i want to delete the linux partiotion and make it look like this: [37 GB WinXP | 5 gb Win98 | Rest Anything, free memory]  .. how do i do this the best way? ..  and btw does windows use the swap memory that linux uses or is it another one?
[09:01] <blindx> Question: if I boot ubuntu live onto a windows computer, can I then mount the NTFS drive inside, and read it?
[09:01] <helfrez> MystaMax, yeah default config file is there, copy it back to etc and start over
[09:01] <picur> Aphacube Metacity x.y .tar.gz
[09:01] <psyke83> hi, is it possible to tell apt-get to reinstall an older version of a package installed on your machine?
[09:02] <Jimmey_1> picur, extract the .tar.gz to /home/.themes
[09:02] <Jimmey_1> Maybe
[09:02] <HedgeMage> goldeagle: you can message my by typing "/msg HedgeMage hi there" without the "s
[09:02] <MystaMax> ok helfrez
[09:02] <ENE|Toxic> Gosha: windoes uses a pagefile for swap which is usually located on the windows - c partition
[09:02] <Gosha> okay
[09:02] <goldeagle> HedgeMage: I send :)
[09:02] <debbie_Anne> Yes, check for infestations lol
[09:02] <spikeb> Gosha: gparted on a live cd can resize partitions, or you can use a windows program
[09:02] <helfrez> MystaMax, with that default config and no modification
[09:02] <Gosha> the rest??
[09:02] <helfrez> i can login with a regular user account
[09:03] <MystaMax> regular u mean ubuntu user account
[09:03] <helfrez> MystaMax, yes
[09:03] <MystaMax> k\
[09:03] <KainET> somebody install X850XT PCI-E for Ubuntu ??
[09:03] <minerale> I just installed Dapper on a second hard driver... when I boot i se "C" on the desktop and on the "computer", it's mapped as /media/hda1 ... but I can't even 'ls' or view anything in it
[09:03] <helfrez> MystaMax, use that as ur basis and work outward from there, its gotta a details comment on anonymous accounts and such
[09:03] <guest> the find did not turn up any files... how do i get a Makefile.2.6.12-10-386
[09:04] <guest> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12851
[09:04] <Gosha> ... so nobody knows how?
[09:04] <Gosha>  :P
[09:04] <debbie_Anne> Xubuntu Live CD Login "User: live Password: (none)"  make it sticky baby!
[09:05] <re|run> polpak: if the documentation says it currently only supports svga, I probably can't do any custom resolutions like 1440x900 in my vm at this time, do you think that's correct?
[09:05] <Iceyes> does anyone know how to install VLC?
[09:05] <ENE|Toxic> If a package/library is requird to build an application from source, how come that same package/library won't be needed if the binaries are installed?
[09:06] <debbie_Anne> apt-get install vlc
[09:06] <FearMoth> how can I automatically modprobe ppdev every time my computer boots? It's not being loaded right now
[09:07] <polpak> re|run, yep
[09:07] <MystaMax> should i restart proftpd after updating the conf file?
[09:07] <Iceyes> debbie_Anne alredy tried that, it says it cant find the package vlc
[09:07] <re|run> polpak: alright -- well, once again --- thanks!
[09:07] <crimsun> FearMoth: echo ppdev |sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[09:07] <debbie_Anne> edit /etc/modules file
[09:07] <helfrez> MystaMax, yes if u have it runnign standalone
[09:08] <helfrez> MystaMax, if u have it runnign inet service restart inetd
[09:08] <MystaMax> i think its running the other way... inited
[09:08] <teletubbie> what tool can I use to configure/monitore my wireless card?
[09:09] <debbie_Anne> Iceyes Use synaptic search "vlc-" if no luck check your sources.list repositories entery
[09:09] <Albert_> hello ppl
[09:09] <Spofer> How can i use two monitors?
[09:09] <debbie_Anne>   /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:09] <wendyk> Ubugtu, tell me about mplyaer
[09:09] <wendyk> Ubugtu, tell me about mplayer installation
[09:09] <ENE|Toxic> Spofer: you need a gfx card which supports two monitors
[09:09] <huiamu> is it normal for synaptic to aply the changes after downloading and instaling for 30mins that were only 15mbs
[09:09] <helfrez> MystaMax, restart whichever inetd ur running, if u need just pam auth for local ubuntu accounts, u will probably find vsftpd much easier to manage
[09:09] <Albert_> This is my first time using Linux and I don't know how to install a program.
[09:09] <wendyk> ubotu, tell me about mplayer installation
[09:10] <debbie_Anne> wndyk mplayer is really cool! You won't find it installed by default ;)
[09:10] <Spofer> I have one
[09:10] <teletubbie> Albert_: hey
[09:10] <wendyk> ubotu, tell me about mplayer
[09:10] <ENE|Toxic> wendyk: sudo apt-get install mplayer ?
[09:10] <kchiefs> apt-get albert
[09:10] <teletubbie> Albert_: just use synaptic
[09:10] <wendyk> ENE|Toxic, err... no ..that doesn't work :-)
[09:10] <Albert_> ok
[09:10] <teletubbie> system -> admin -> synaptic package manager
[09:10] <Spofer> How do i tell the ubuntu to use dual monitor?
[09:10] <pike> wendyk: sudo apt-get install mplayer-586?
[09:10] <ENE|Toxic> wendyk: You need to enable multiverse/universe
[09:10] <pike> ;P
[09:11] <Albert_> ty
[09:11] <ENE|Toxic> wendyk: /etc/apt/source.lst
[09:11] <debbie_Anne> wendyk yes
[09:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell wendyk about mplayer
[09:11] <_jason> oh you got it already... :)
[09:11] <wendyk> thanks guys..
[09:11] <teletubbie> what tool can I use to configure/monitore my wireless card?
[09:11] <debbie_Anne> wendyk It will not play MS ,QT by default. Codec pack needed.
[09:11] <ENE|Toxic> teletubbie: configure -> "iwconfig"
[09:12] <ENE|Toxic> teletubbie: mtr-diag -> network diagnostics tool.
[09:12] <secureboot> ompaul: i just installed the sun pacakges, and that worked fine.
[09:12] <ENE|Toxic> If a package/library is requird to build an application from source, how come that same package/library won't be needed if the binaries are installed?
[09:12] <wendyk> debbie_Anne, oh ok. I am actually following the CVS instructions from #mplayer with the bot's instructions as well. :-)
[09:12] <secureboot> anyone able to tell me how to change printer settings by default for everyone?
[09:12] <MystaMax> helfrez: ok that worked, I can connect w/ my default 'ubuntu' account, but i can't create directories in my /var/www directory
[09:12] <helfrez> !mplayer
[09:12] <ubotu> I guess mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[09:13] <_jason> wendyk: why are you compiling?
[09:13] <Em`Zee> I'm having serious trouble upgrading to Dapper
[09:13] <Em`Zee> can anyone help me?
[09:13] <Em`Zee> I'm getting this:
[09:13] <debbie_Anne> wendyk  apt-get install mplayer (mplayer-586) should work! For codecs search "w32codecs" on forum
[09:13] <Albert_> ok
[09:13] <wendyk> _jason, because the pre-7 source is too olde.
[09:13] <Em`Zee> Setting up gconf2 (2.14.0-1ubuntu1) ...
[09:13] <Em`Zee> gconf-merge-tree: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgconf-2.so.4: undefined symbol: g_slice_alloc0
[09:13] <Em`Zee> dpkg: error processing gconf2 (--configure):
[09:13] <Em`Zee>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
[09:13] <_jason> Em`Zee: use #ubuntu+1 for dapper please
[09:13] <helfrez> MystaMax, ahh ok, you need to modify perms on the directory or users group
[09:13] <Spofer> ubotu
[09:13] <Em`Zee> Oh sorry
[09:13] <hafta> jason: what u did to my menu.list
[09:13] <_jason> Em`Zee: and don't paste, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:14] <_jason> hafta: huh? I am innocent I swear
[09:14] <sybariten> hey'all
[09:14] <wendyk> debbie_Anne, oh. Let me try that.
[09:14] <hafta> jason: ferronica here
[09:14] <Em`Zee> I can't open a web browser =(
[09:14] <helfrez> MystaMax, filesystem perms trumps everything, so if the user cant write to the directory normally, just say from nautilus
[09:14] <Spofer> ubotu: tell me about graphics
[09:14] <sybariten> is there a name for the tool used to specify what you want to share using Samba, that i use from Gnome ?
[09:14] <Bilange> on my installation, grub failed to install correcly (refuses to boot, saying "error #16"... when a bit of digging, grub tells me "inconsistent filesystem structure" when I try to "initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-9-386 --what gives?
[09:14] <MystaMax> helfrez: but if i mod permission or group on the /var/www directory will my server still run?
[09:14] <MystaMax> my apache server that is
[09:14] <ENE|Toxic> MystaMax: you can always add you apache user/group to the group owning /var/www
[09:14] <_jason> hafta: you have official sources, your other ones are backed up as /etc/apt/sources.list.backup iirc
[09:15] <helfrez> MystaMax, thats the tricky part, its probably better to add the user to the group and give the group perms, than modify the perms on the fodler itself
[09:15] <debbie_Anne> wendyk  you must add to /etc/apt/sources.list new entry for multimedia goodies
[09:15] <polpak> sybariten,  shares-admin
[09:15] <_jason> hafta: menu.lst I never touched :)
[09:15] <baconbacon> sybariten: shares-admin
[09:15] <MystaMax> man, ok i gotta figure this out.  where can read on how to change these permissions
[09:15] <sybariten> polpak, baconbacon: merci!
[09:15] <MystaMax> isn't it chmod
[09:15] <helfrez> MystaMax,  cause yes if u just start changing ownership u might bork something....adding the
[09:15] <ENE|Toxic> MystaMax: man chmod
[09:15] <wendyk> debbie_Anne, oh.. what entry should i put in?
[09:15] <baconbacon> de rien,
[09:15] <hafta> jason: today morning i booted my computer from Xp , after one beep blank screen
[09:16] <hafta> jason: and blinking cursor upper left corner
[09:16] <MystaMax> toxic: i tried that, but it doesn't seem elaborate, i prefer examples
[09:16] <rabe> oi, does osx have a registry? and vista?
[09:16] <_jason> hafta: as I explained before, I do not know how to help you with your windows problem
[09:16] <MystaMax> if not, i'll dig deeper
[09:16] <sybariten> next question: is there some kind of console version of shares-admin? Its the only way i've shared linux harddrives to a Win network before, and whenever i try to do it the normal samba way i get lost in an endless night of reading conf files and drinking tea
[09:16] <sybariten> conf files that dont work, that is
[09:16] <ENE|Toxic> MystaMax: Tell me what you want to do then and I'll help you from there
[09:16] <debbie_Anne> wendyk please wait...
[09:17] <MystaMax> ok :-)  I have an ftp server setup and i want to be able to do as please with all the directories below /var/www/  using my default ubuntu account
[09:17] <hafta> ok
[09:17] <debbie_Anne> wendyk please add the following:  deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main
[09:17] <hafta> what is there in backup iirc
[09:18] <hafta> can u tell me how to unmount window drive
[09:18] <helfrez> MystaMax, persa if all users of group httpd have write permission to a folder, add the user to the group and it should be sufficient ok i believe
[09:18] <ENE|Toxic> MystaMax: You should probably add yourself to the apache group, it's in the group menu in gnome. That way your user will also stand as an owner to the file.
[09:18] <MystaMax> one sec, damn phone ringing. sorry
[09:18] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[09:19] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i reset the network settings
[09:19] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[09:19] <ENE|Toxic> MetaMorfoziS: what do you mean reset ?
[09:19] <Flannel> helfrez: it depends on the server, some allow you to specify a group (ftp-users) and then that group can get the /var/www as their home dir
[09:19] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm under a router, but my brothers took the rooter, and i set up the pppoe connection with pppoeconf
[09:19] <debbie_Anne> wendyk  when done, apt-get update && apt-get install mplayer && apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[09:19] <MetaMorfoziS> and this time, the router is back
[09:19] <Albert_> I have this program TeamSpeak but it cannot be installed with Synaptic or can it?
[09:19] <MetaMorfoziS> and i hasn't got automatically connected to the net, i need sudo dclient
[09:19] <ENE|Toxic> MetaMorfoziS: So you want to reconfigure the router ?
[09:19] <helfrez> Flannel, correct but hes using a flat default proftpd config, so if u have a better suggestion specific to his issue, please speak up
[09:20] <MetaMorfoziS> no the router
[09:20] <rabe>  does osx have a registry? and vista?
[09:20] <MetaMorfoziS> dhclient
[09:20] <helfrez> hafta, umount (mountpoint)
[09:20] <MetaMorfoziS> rabe unixes hasn't got registry
[09:20] <hafta> oh ok
[09:20] <Albert_> Does anyone have TeamSpeak installed?
[09:20] <rabe> hate registry
[09:20] <ENE|Toxic> MetaMorfoziS: Yeah, you need to enable the router as a DHCP server in which you will get an IP from it using dhcpclient3
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> What would be an appropriate vga mode for 1280x768?
[09:20] <helfrez> hafta, if u dont want it mounted in the future by default, comment it out in the /etc/fstab
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> hafta: Or just add the option noauto.
[09:21] <MetaMorfoziS> why i need to change the router?
[09:21] <helfrez> hafta, youshoudl find the line for it there, comment it out is better than deleting in case u change ur mind leter ;P
[09:21] <hafta> jason: i think i did by command earlier
[09:21] <MetaMorfoziS> i need reconfiguer the internet settings, i think
[09:21] <ENE|Toxic> MetaMorfoziS: Maybe I didn't understand what your problem is
[09:21] <MetaMorfoziS> the router isn't changed
[09:21] <ENE|Toxic> MetaMorfoziS: So you're not getting an IP from the router, or you can't access the internet ?
[09:21] <helfrez> hafta, noauto option it will still show up in your my computer, comment it out if u dont want it listed at all, to be more specific
[09:21] <MetaMorfoziS> so the first time, i has router, and evrything works fine
[09:22] <wendyk> debbie_Anne: thank u :-)
[09:22] <MetaMorfoziS> the second time, i hasn't got router, i settted up the pppoe configuration, manually
[09:22] <MetaMorfoziS> and all works fine.
[09:22] <MetaMorfoziS> the this time, i has router again
[09:22] <hafta> in my computer it showing me the hdd
[09:22] <hafta> window hdd
[09:22] <MetaMorfoziS> and i not connected aotumatically to the internet
[09:23] <Albert_> Does anyone knows how to install the program TeamSpeak?
[09:23] <MetaMorfoziS> i need to run sudo dhclient
[09:23] <MetaMorfoziS> it sets up all, and it connects
[09:23] <ENE|Toxic> MetaMorfoziS: Oh and now you want to remove the settings you made from pppoe ... I haven't used that personally myself so I can't help you on that matter. Checking the manual there should probably be something about it. Do you receive an IP from the router using dhclient, and can you ping the router with it ?
[09:23] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[09:23] <MetaMorfoziS> ni
[09:23] <MetaMorfoziS> no
[09:23] <MetaMorfoziS> what?
[09:23] <MetaMorfoziS> with dhclient works
[09:23] <polpak> Albert_,  have you tried http://www.goteamspeak.com/index.php?page=downloads
[09:23] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm under that machine...
[09:23] <helfrez> hafta, yes, if u dont even want it listed there there comment it out in fstab, if u want it listed but not mounted by default at bootup, add the options noauto to fstab
[09:23] <polpak> Albert_, it seems they have a linux version
[09:24] <hafta> when i try to mount floppy drive error came-- this drive is already handled by /etc/fstab
[09:24] <ENE|Toxic> MetaMorfoziS: no to what ? Can you ping the router ?
[09:24] <ompaul> cafuego, u here?
[09:24] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[09:24] <Albert_> ok
[09:24] <helfrez> hafta, u shouldnt have to manually moutn floppy it should supermount
[09:24] <blindx> Question: if I boot ubuntu live onto a windows computer, can I then mount the NTFS drive inside, and read it?
[09:24] <MetaMorfoziS> so not better solution, but i think if i can run automatically the dhclient at startup its good
[09:24] <polpak> blindx, yes
[09:24] <sybariten> would there be any way i could call shares-admin from the console? what i mean is that i cant really find that as a binary by tabbing
[09:24] <blindx> ok just making sure.
[09:25] <hafta>  noauto/etc/fstab
[09:25] <hafta> like this
[09:25] <ompaul> blindx, yes do this >> /msg ubotu ntfs << it should return a howto
[09:25] <polpak> sybariten, if it's installed it should find it in /usr/bin/shares-admin
[09:25] <Nomad411> !fat32
[09:25] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:25] <helfrez> /dev/hda1       /boot           ext3    noauto        0       2
[09:25] <ENE|Toxic> MetaMorfoziS: Hmm, you should already get an IP during the startup. If you want to add dhclient automatically during login, add it to .xinitrc which load whenever a new enviroment loads.
[09:26] <SinnerG> How can I alter the size of the text in the Firefox menu (on dapper beta) ?
[09:26] <MetaMorfoziS> .xinitrc
[09:26] <MetaMorfoziS> wherE?
[09:26] <helfrez> hafta, add it to the 4th section
[09:26] <ENE|Toxic> MetaMorfoziS: $HOME/.xinitrc
[09:26] <_jason> !dapper
[09:26] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[09:26] <MetaMorfoziS> i  hasn't got it
[09:26] <sybariten> polpak: actually, its not there ... maybe because i dont have X :)
[09:26] <MetaMorfoziS> it's breezy (kubuntu)
[09:26] <sybariten> anyone know if there is a way to install just shares-admin ? this is from a Ubuntu Server version
[09:26] <ENE|Toxic> MetaMorfoziS: In you're home folder there's a file .xinitr
[09:27] <hafta> bash: /dev/hdb1: Permission denied
[09:27] <ompaul> SinnerG, menu  -- edit preferences fonts n colours  -- please move to the irc channel #ubuntu+1 for dapper discussion or issues
[09:27] <ENE|Toxic> hafta: Sudo ?
[09:27] <hafta> oh ok
[09:27] <SinnerG> just did  ;)
[09:27] <MetaMorfoziS> ENE|Toxic: no
[09:27] <MetaMorfoziS> but it needs run as root
[09:27] <Albert_> I need to install a .sh document how can i do that?
[09:28] <MetaMorfoziS> so i need a solution for it to run it as root
[09:28] <MetaMorfoziS> sudo dhclient
[09:28] <Drowsiness> Albert_: sudo sh <name_of_file>.sh
[09:28] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, sudo 'command  line to be expanded' or sudo command
[09:28] <simonpca> plop
[09:28] <ENE|Toxic> MetaMorfoziS: you can create one then. In gnome there's a special menuitem which enables you to start programs during startup, I haven't personally used KDE but I'm quite sure there's an equivalent there.
[09:28] <hafta>  sudo /dev/hdb1       /boot           ext3    noauto        0       2
[09:28] <MetaMorfoziS> kde has autostartup folder
[09:29] <MetaMorfoziS> but not as root
[09:29] -transm:#ubuntu- http://babes.on.nimp.org/
[09:29] <spikeb> whew
[09:29] <spikeb> wasnt just me
[09:29] <blindx> I want to boot to ubuntu live on a computer at my school.. but they use a network to get online. would it be easy to hook up the network connection?
[09:29] <Albert_> Drowsiness: I am new with Linux what do you mean with sudo sh and the rest.
[09:29] <ompaul> spikeb, how did you guess?
[09:30] <ENE|Toxic> MetaMorfoziS: Hmm, check "man visudo", I think you can set users/program with sudo access not having to specify a password. There's probably a better way to do this though.
[09:30] <Albert_> Drowsiness: I am sorry for asking really annoying questions.
[09:30] <spikeb> ompaul, lucky brain cell spark
[09:30] <freezey> Segmentation fault
[09:30] <freezey>  i am gettin this error on gproftp
[09:30] <helfrez> hafta, yes that should allow it to show up in your My Computer, but not mount by default...if you dont even want it to be listed then add a "#" at the beginning of that line and reboot
[09:30] <kingspawn> blindx: a network? dont you use a network?
[09:30] <spikeb> if gproftp is what i think it is, i know the developer
[09:30] <spikeb> heh
[09:30] <spikeb> that's neat
[09:30] <ENE|Toxic> Albert_: sudo is short for switch-user-do which runs a command under root (the superuser). sudo command_name
[09:31] <freezey> spikeb: u talkin to me?
[09:31] <spikeb> freezey, just rambling
[09:31] <freezey> oh ok
[09:31] <BearPerson> ompaul, that won't be too efficient
[09:31] <blindx> kingspawn, but theirs is different? like you have to log in, into the network, not log onto the computer.
[09:31] <ompaul> BearPerson, I tried /stats p :-) but your there
[09:31] <MetaMorfoziS> it's hard for me
[09:31] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm newbie
[09:31] <kingspawn> blindx: Aha. Well, you should be able to do it somehow, but you'll probably need some passwords and thinga-ma-jigs
[09:32] <MetaMorfoziS> so no other way to reset the internet settings?
[09:32] <ompaul> BearPerson, gotcha
[09:32] <BearPerson> yeah, I'm in the getting-late-staring-at-terminal state :)
[09:33] <Drowsiness> ompaul is a quick draw :D
[09:33] <ompaul> Drowsiness, I just winged them
[09:33] <Drowsiness> haha
[09:33] <ompaul> BearPerson, I must actually sit down with the manual for this app some time
[09:33] <BearPerson> heh
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Aa!  Cutting it close there.
[09:34] <MystaMax> hello helfrez and toxic
[09:34] <MystaMax> i see a www-data group
[09:34] <MystaMax> but no apache group, so i'll assume...
[09:35] <ENE|Toxic> hhtd ?
[09:35] <lucien> hi there
[09:35] <MystaMax> i dont see a group by that name
[09:35] <Gfunk> hello
[09:35] <MetaMorfoziS> hoh
[09:35] <MystaMax> hello lucien
[09:35] <ENE|Toxic> MystaMax: I'm compiling fluxbox again atm, so I can't look at groups right now though :P
[09:36] <MystaMax> will it hurt to try adding myself to that www-group?
[09:36] <Gfunk> quit
[09:36] <LiteWait> hey all!
[09:36] <ENE|Toxic> MystaMax: No that will be a safe operation
[09:36] <MystaMax> good deal, and i should restart proftpd?
[09:36] <Iceyes> !easy ubuntu
[09:36] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Iceyes
[09:36] <fratteli> .
[09:37] <fratteli> e ai...
[09:37] <ENE|Toxic> MystaMax: not necesarily no
[09:37] <MystaMax> k
[09:37] <MystaMax> im gonna try it now
[09:37] <MetaMorfoziS> meta@sajt:~$ sudo echo lol
[09:37] <MetaMorfoziS> sudo: unable to lookup sajt via gethostbyname()
[09:37] <ENE|Toxic> MystaMax: It's just file-system access, apache shouldn't bother about that.
[09:37] <MetaMorfoziS> this is problem
[09:37] <fratteli> quem aqki conhece realmente esse sistema operacional...
[09:37] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^ i'm sucked up my setttings in kcontrol
[09:37] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm deleted sume dns-es
[09:37] <MetaMorfoziS> and i'm can't login su
[09:37] <MystaMax> toxic: the more you elaborate.. the more i learn, and i appreciate that!
[09:37] <fratteli> e ai jason
[09:38] <MetaMorfoziS> what i need? somebody helpmee please fast
[09:38] <ENE|Toxic> MystaMax: np
[09:38] <ompaul> cirqueduphreak, why did you do that?
[09:38] <lucien> does an kernel boot option exist, which prevents a specific module from being loaded?
[09:38] <ENE|Toxic> lucien: you can have the removed from /etc/modules or /etc/init.d
[09:38] <sybariten> i dont have gnome nor X installed on my machine. If i chose to apt-get install gnome-system-tools, will i have problems? want to run it from another machines X
[09:39] <lucien> thx
[09:39] <lucien> i'll try it, bye
[09:39] <immolo> sybariten, Xorg and GNOME will be depenices of gnome-system-tools :P
[09:39] <blindx> I'm having A LOT of troubles burning a VCD, can someone help me out?
[09:40] <immolo> blindx, you looked on doom9.org?
[09:40] <mike-e> how do i get ubuntu to allow a certain application to listen on port 21 so i can vnc in and modify port forwarding on my router?
[09:40] <blindx> nope. I'll have a look.
[09:40] <immolo> blindx, heh, use dvds then I can help you :P
[09:40] <sybariten> immolo: ok ... :-/
[09:41] <immolo> sybariten, why do you want that package anyway
[09:41] <sybariten> immolo: in order to set up samba sharing
[09:41] <blindx> immolo, I'm just burning a sopranos episode. a DVD isn't really needed :P
[09:41] <sybariten> cant find any other application that seems to do the job in that easy way
[09:41] <immolo> sybariten, edit the config file, samba is easy
[09:42] <immolo> blindx, ah very well I'll let you off
[09:42] <sybariten> immolo: believe me, i've been there, it just always gives me problems
[09:42] <sybariten> immolo: there are as many ways to set up that conf file, as there are guides to it ... they never look consistent
[09:42] <immolo> sybariten, I did me too until I just sat down and read it
[09:42] <immolo> sybariten, don't use guides read the comments
[09:42] <sybariten> hm
[09:43] <immolo> they are there for a reason
[09:43] <sybariten> yeah
[09:43] <immolo> trust me, grab a coffee and start with a fresh config file and you will have samba up within 15mins
[09:44] <ompaul> !samba
[09:44] <ubotu> methinks samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[09:44] <Dutchy> is there no program with a gui to unrar?
[09:44] <Albert_> In the terminal for the next map what is the commen like /usr/setup.sh ?
[09:44] <Albert_> Something like this?
[09:44] <immolo> Dutchy, file-roller
[09:44] <Dutchy> ok thanks
[09:48] <blindx> When I open my home folder, nautilus freezes and the only way to fix it is to restart my computer. Why?
[09:48] <atze> hi
[09:48] <rabe> is there an easy guide how to install a program from source and by that also creating the deb archive?
[09:48] <budluva> rabe, what program?
[09:49] <Ohzie> Is there a way for me move and resize my linux partition?
[09:49] <Whyvas> Ohzie, partition magic
[09:49] <sybariten> holy crap, theres a lot of different questions all in once now
[09:49] <Ohzie> O_o
[09:49] <immolo> blindx, my friends nautilus crashed due to an image, try moving it out using a terminal
[09:49] <rabe> budluva: fl4, for creating flash
[09:49] <Ohzie> Whyvas: Is there a partition magic for linux?
[09:49] <blindx> an image. hm.
[09:49] <atze> I have severe problems with skype, I have dmix on alsa working oss-emulation and every other oss app mixes fine, but when I launch skype every other app gets blocked even alsa apps!
[09:49] <rabe> bufluve: i meant f4l
[09:49] <teletubbie> how do I know if I have dma enbled or not?
[09:49] <Whyvas> Ohzie, download hiren's boot cd
[09:49] <atze> This is sooo irritating ;)
[09:50] <Ohzie> Whyvas: URL?
[09:50] <Ohzie> And why  isn't there a linux app to do this yet? >:(
[09:50] <blindx> ohzie: you can't move/resize a partition you're currently using
[09:50] <rabe> is there an easy guide how to install a program from source and by that also creating the deb archive?
[09:50] <Whyvas> Ohzie, www.google.com
[09:50] <ompaul> rabe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware   http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall (but first carry out this >>/msg ubotu repos<< and search there for the software
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> Whyvas: GParted.
[09:50] <blindx> immolo, it WAS an image.
[09:51] <blindx> Thanks.
[09:51] <immolo> blindx, no problem
[09:51] <schtinky> my hosting company appears to be down... is there a forum or anything where you can find out what's going on?
[09:51] <schtinky>  or an IRC channel that tracks that kind of thing?
[09:51] <tonyyarusso> Ohzie: Sorry, that's for you.  GParted.
[09:51] <ompaul> rabe, please do not reapeat so quickly - give it 10 minutes it can take that long to get an answer together
[09:51] <atze> rabe: just download the .tar.gz and deflate it with tar -xvvjf then run ./configure
[09:51] <atze> rabe: or just read the INSTALL :)
[09:52] <Whyvas> tonyyarusso, yeah but then you have to get a live cd, which is usually much bigger than the 50 meg download hiren's boot cd is.
[09:52] <rabe>  tar -xvvjf filename?
[09:52] <immolo> schtinky, if you're hosting company is down you are with the wrong company
[09:52] <schtinky> immolo, it's pretty highly rated
[09:52] <ompaul> rabe, if you don't know what your doing read those web pages they were put there to help
[09:52] <atze> rabe: yes, type man tar for more explanation on the xvvjf stuff
[09:52] <schtinky> immolo, maybe it's a bigger internet problem?
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> Whyvas: You can just get the GParted live CD, about 30MB>
[09:52] <Ohzie> tonyyarusso: Thank you! :D
[09:52] <Iceyes> i cant get easy ubuntu work properly
[09:52] <rabe> ok
[09:53] <marginoferror> I have a question about Ubuntu's involvement in Google's Summer of Code.
[09:53] <marginoferror> Anyone here involved with that?
[09:53] <immolo> schtinky, I'm not having internet problems today, you aren't with 1&1 are you?
[09:53] <atze> Iceyes: be more specific :)
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> Whyvas: See http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[09:53] <Whyvas> tonyyarusso, yeah but you get a TON of other very useful utilities with hiren's
[09:54] <ompaul> marginoferror, this is not the forum for that, what is on the web is more than likely going to me more useful wiki.ubuntu.com and search for summer of code
[09:54] <Albert_> Arg... Linux is way more difficult then Windows.
[09:54] <marginoferror> Hmm, all right.
[09:54] <schtinky> immolo, no I'm not
[09:54] <marginoferror> Is there an appropriate mailing list as well?
[09:54] <schtinky> immolo, it's lunarpages.com... ranked in the top ten of every rating site I can find
[09:55] <er4z0r> Albert_: freedom is never easy ;)
[09:55] <Albert_> When i want to install a simple program it takes hours and I still don't know what to do.
[09:55] <rabe> should i use make or checkinstall ? what's better?
[09:55] <Albert_> er4z0r: hehe :P
[09:55] <noiz> join #mepis
[09:55] <er4z0r> Albert_: define simple software ;)
[09:55] <immolo> Albert_, no way, you just need more time the learning curve is just alittle harder
[09:55] <noiz> ls
[09:56] <spikeb> ./home/noiz
[09:56] <spikeb> heh
[09:56] <ompaul> Albert_, if you knew what it is you wanted to install it would most likely take 2-5 minutes to install any standard software
[09:56] <atze> rabe: read the README or INSTALL file or something similar, but i would say make because I have no idea what checkinstall is :)
[09:56] <Iceyes> atze what more do i have to do to listen to .mp3 and such? i installed it do i have a specific player?
[09:56] <immolo> schtinky, your best beat is to try www.webhostingtalk.com
[09:56] <schtinky> immolo, my ping and traceroute programs can't even lookup the domain... what the hell is that about?
[09:56] <Albert_> I need to install TeamSpeak with a terminal but it isn't working so far.
[09:56] <budluva> how do i force apt to install a package that has been held back? for some reason when i apt-get upgrade it wants to hold back totem...
[09:56] <rabe> atze: is it then easy to uninstall?
[09:56] <immolo> schtinky, and seeing as you are running Linux why not run you're own server
[09:56] <budluva> just apt-get -force upgrade
[09:56] <jeldert> do a apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:56] <budluva> ?
[09:57] <schtinky> immolo, ha, on my 256K upstream? right
[09:57] <NickGarvey> dist-upgrade will do it
[09:57] <ompaul> Albert_, is that a linux program?
[09:57] <blindx> how do you specify output type with mencoder? I forget the command?
[09:57] <immolo> schtinky, mine site works ok on mine
[09:57] <Albert_> ompaul: it is made for Linux to
[09:58] <atze> Iceyes: If you have default ubuntu you have totem, which plays mp3's, try installing xmms for something simple (it looks like winamp)
[09:58] <NickGarvey> yeah, is it not working Albert_?
[09:58] <ompaul> Albert_, can it be downloaded?
[09:58] <NickGarvey> Albert_: I mean why is it not working
[09:58] <Iceyes> !xmms
[09:58] <ubotu> I heard xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary and Breezy, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[09:58] <atze> rabe: actually I don't know, I'm new to this stuff too
[09:58] <Iceyes> ill try
[09:59] <Albert_> ompaul: yes
[09:59] <NickGarvey> ompaul: yeah, you can get the bins or the source
[09:59] <NickGarvey> Albert_: are you doing source or bin install?
[09:59] <MystaMax> toxic u still around?
[09:59] <ENE|Toxic> MystaMax: yeah
[09:59] <belkin> is there anything better then gtkpod  ? anyother ipod package ?
[09:59] <NickGarvey> !ipod
[09:59] <atze> could someone please help me, I've lost contact with all my friends :)
[09:59] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[09:59] <atze> I have severe problems with skype, I have dmix on alsa working oss-emulation and every other oss app mixes fine, but when I launch skype every other app gets blocked even alsa apps!
[09:59] <MystaMax> adding that my account to www-data didnt help? are you still compiling?
[09:59] <Albert_> NickGarvey: A .sh
[10:00] <baconbacon> Albert_: im working on installing it right now
[10:00] <NickGarvey> Albert_: looks like the bin to me.. I'd do source install
[10:00] <ENE|Toxic> MystaMax: I'll take a look, brb
[10:00] <ENE|Toxic> Does moving a source folder with a compiled package allow make clean or make uninstall ?
[10:01] <Albert_> Well I still need help this is my first day working with Linux.
[10:01] <Albert_> So I don't know anything.
[10:01] <NickGarvey> Albert_: download the .tar.bz2
[10:01] <Iceyes> atze where do i get xmms?  its first time i use ubunut in my whole life im kinda gone in it
[10:01] <NickGarvey> !tell Iceyes about xmms
[10:01] <baconbacon> Albert_: ok its installed... so it must work
[10:01] <er4z0r> Albert_: wow, then ts is a nice task to tackle
[10:01] <NickGarvey> Iceyes: oh that didn't say how to install
[10:02] <NickGarvey> Iceyes: from synaptic look for xmms
[10:02] <Albert_> NickGarvey:  uhh.... okay i have download the program
[10:02] <atze> Iceyes: Go too System at the top and then administration then synaptic package etc. and search for xmms
[10:02] <rabe> waht should i use: "make" or "checkinstall", to install programs from source and also be able to remove them compeltely?
[10:02] <baconbacon> So Albert_, you got to extract it somewhere, ex your desktop
[10:02] <Albert_> NickGarvey:  the tar.bz2
[10:02] <IceTox> Anyone here tried using CounterStrike Stream in ubuntu using Wine? It doesn't work for me.. Someone either able to give me a better solution, or at least analyze the error message I get? I've pasted it in the pastebin -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12852
[10:02] <atze> Iceyes: you can install all sorts of programs this way
[10:02] <NickGarvey> how do you unzip a bz2?
[10:03] <baconbacon> NickGarvey: console or gui
[10:03] <NickGarvey> j thats it
[10:03] <baconbacon> k
[10:03] <NickGarvey> baconbacon: I got it, tar xvfj
[10:03] <NickGarvey> Albert_: do you know how to work your way around the terminal?
[10:03] <Albert_> NickGarvey:  Not really.
[10:04] <NickGarvey> Albert_: okie, know how to open it?
[10:04] <Albert_> NickGarvey:  Yes i have it open right know.
[10:04] <Stc> hi
[10:04] <NickGarvey> Albert_: good, do you know where you saved it? desktop?
[10:04] <baconbacon> NickGarvey: i just installed teamspeak w/o terminal
[10:04] <NickGarvey> Albert_: try typing "cd"
[10:04] <Albert_> NickGarvey:  ok
[10:04] <NickGarvey> baconbacon: work fine?  what did you do?
[10:05] <NickGarvey> baconbacon: you take over from here :)
[10:05] <Iceyes> atze it dident told me where to find xmms is that a program installed default? on ubuntu?
[10:05] <Albert_> NickGarvey:  CD to destkop?
[10:05] <baconbacon> Albert_: you save the .tar.bz2 file on desktop right
[10:05] <NickGarvey> Albert_: talk to baconbacon, he got it working with out any of this ugly command line ;)
[10:05] <ENE|Toxic> MystaMax: Come to think of it. root:root owns /var/www
[10:06] <baconbacon> Albert_:  then right click on it and "extract here"
[10:06] <MystaMax> yea if i do an ls -alh on var/www thats what it says
[10:06] <Albert_> baconbacon: Yes it is on desktop.
[10:06] <Albert_> baconbacon: ok
[10:06] <Albert_> baconbacon: The files are extracted.
[10:06] <rabe> ok, found about checkinstall: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[10:07] <baconbacon> go to the directory and double click setup.sh
[10:07] <Elazar> There a recommended filesharing app of choice for Ubuntu?
[10:07] <ENE|Toxic> MystaMax: You could add yourself to the admin group then to be part of root
[10:07] <atze> Iceyes: no it's not installed by default search for xmms. then right click and choose mark for install and click apply button
[10:07] <simonpca__> re
[10:07] <ENE|Toxic> MystaMax: hmm, on second though you probably already are, and it's about sudo anyway, my bad
[10:07] <Albert_> baconbacon: Now i get 4 options to do.
[10:07] <baconbacon> theres a dialog, choose "launch"
[10:07] <Albert_> baconbacon: ok
[10:08] <baconbacon> then.. standard "windows" install wizard... next next netx
[10:08] <Albert_> baconbacon: it worked tyvm
[10:08] <MystaMax> toxic: so wait, what are u suggesting?
[10:08] <baconbacon> now in your home directory theres a ts2something folder
[10:08] <skruw> anyone using modular synths?
[10:08] <MystaMax> i just got confused
[10:09] <ottscho> abend
[10:09] <baconbacon> you can launch Teamspeak with the teamspeak script (SH icon)
[10:10] <ompaul> ottscho, only if your willing to IPL
[10:10] <Albert_> baconbacon: Thanks dude =D
[10:10] <Albert_> baconbacon: I've already have the next question. =S
[10:10] <immer> hey...i'm trying to install kxdocker from binary and when i run the config script, konsole spits out an error saying my cpp fails sanity check
[10:10] <immer> help, anyone?
[10:10] <Albert_> baconbacon: Is it possible with .exe files to?
[10:10] <ENE|Toxic> MystaMax: 1) You could add yourself to the root group, which would probably not be a good idea considering security 2) You could chmod /var/www to belong to another group (say admin) which might affect the server. But then again, it's easy to chmod back to root:root 3) Hmm, not so sure. Perhaps www.apache.org has a hint
[10:11] <NoUse> immer kxdocker is in apt-get
[10:11] <ottscho> what is IPL
[10:11] <baconbacon> Albert_: i must say im surprised it worked this way, most linux sofware is installed differently then this windows way
[10:11] <belkin> need help installing java please
[10:11] <baconbacon> !java
[10:11] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:11] <Albert_> baconbacon: ok
[10:11] <NickGarvey> baconbacon: yeah.. I was confused on what you were saying heh
[10:12] <NickGarvey> baconbacon: double click? I don't understand?! heh
[10:12] <Albert_> baconbacon: Do you know the program EasyPHP?
[10:12] <baconbacon> yes
[10:12] <baconbacon> a bit
[10:12] <immer> moUse: what version? because i got ver .3x though kynaptic a while back, and it ran really poorly...i found 1.1.4a on the developer's site and thought i'd give it a try
[10:12] <skruw> and that omsynth well it really sucks
[10:12] <belkin> i followed a couple of guide but they all tell me to install  java-package witch doesnt exist
[10:12] <belkin> any ideea ?
[10:12] <skruw> no music creators here?
[10:12] <NoUse> !info kxdocker
[10:12] <ubotu> kxdocker: (innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.35-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 215 kB, Installed size: 708 kB
[10:13] <atze> belkin: this will make your life easier: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80295&highlight=automatix
[10:13] <Albert_> baconbacon: I want to install that program only i don't know how and im not sure if its possible.
[10:13] <NickGarvey> NO
[10:13] <NickGarvey> NO
[10:13] <NoUse> immer put your error message in pastebin
[10:13] <_jason> belkin: java-package is in multiverse, but there are already-made deb packages for java which you can use
[10:13] <NickGarvey> atze: how dare you!
[10:13] <NickGarvey> !automatix
[10:13] <ubotu> I heard automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[10:13] <baconbacon> ubotu tel belkin about java
[10:13] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, baconbacon
[10:13] <_jason> ubotu: tell belkin about javadebs
[10:13] <atze> what?
[10:13] <NickGarvey> atze: you just suggested automatix..
[10:13] <immer> moUse: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[10:13] <immer> See `config.log' for more details.
[10:13] <_jason> immer: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[10:13] <NickGarvey> !tell belkin about easyubuntu
[10:13] <atze> NickGarvey: yeah... what's wrong with that ?
[10:14] <NoUse> immer did you look in config.log?
[10:14] <baconbacon> Albert_: easyPHP equivalent is a group of packages on linux
[10:14] <baconbacon> for mysql, apache, php
[10:14] <NickGarvey> !tell atze about automatix
[10:14] <immer> no
[10:14] <_jason> immer: hmm?
[10:14] <NoUse> immer try that
[10:14] <belkin> atze i heard automatix its no good
[10:14] <immer> in the process
[10:14] <NickGarvey> belkin: did you read about easyubuntu?
[10:14] <Albert_> baconbacon: ok
[10:14] <_jason> immer: does it still do that after installing build-essential?
[10:15] <atze> NickGarvey: Then why the heck is it a sticky on the forums! I already used it now :)
[10:15] <Albert_> baconbacon: U have really being helpfull thank you.
[10:15] <NickGarvey> atze: your mistake..
[10:15] <mantono> How can I stop the toppanel from starting and replace it with fbpanel while logging in with GDM?
[10:15] <baconbacon> Albert_: ask around for installing "easyphp" on linux
[10:15] <_chris> how can i configure my wifi to connect automatically?
[10:15] <Albert_> NickGarvey: You have been helpfull to
[10:15] <belkin> NickGarvey yeah ... trying it now
[10:15] <immer> _jason - haven't isntalled build-essential yet...checkign config.log presently
[10:15] <Albert_> See ya later ppl
[10:15] <_jason> immer: if you haven't install build-essential, you can't build :)
[10:16] <NickGarvey> belkin:  :)
[10:16] <NoUse> immer yeah install build-essential first
[10:16] <ATP74> :-D
[10:16] <atze> NickGarvey: Maybe that's why skype doesn't work.. it was installed by automatix..
[10:17] <baconbacon> atze: oh please
[10:17] <teletubbie> can you use kde on ubuntu?
[10:17] <DavidW2> hi. I seem to be missing the timezone files. What package are they in or how are they created? *My timezone is stuck at UTC and I can't select another)
[10:17] <NickGarvey> !tell teletubbie about kde
[10:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell teletubbie about kde
[10:17] <NickGarvey> I win
[10:17] <_chris> how can i configure my wifi to connect automatically?
[10:17] <_jason> ):
[10:17] <mlehrer> teletubbie: try installing kubuntu-desktop
[10:18] <teletubbie> but I'm running dapper already
[10:18] <teletubbie> :\
[10:18] <atze> baconbacon: I'm pulling my hairs out here and accepting every possiblility :)
[10:18] <mlehrer> teletubbie: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:18] <skruw> anyone using synths in linux?!
[10:18] <DavidW2> Or, how can I find what package a given file on the filesystem belongs to?
[10:18] <_jason> ubotu: tell atze about skype
[10:18] <belkin> NickGarvey Could not download all repository indexes the error i get using easyubuntu
[10:18] <_jason> DavidW2: dpkg -S /path/to/file
[10:18] <teletubbie> even when running dapper?
[10:18] <_jason> !dapper
[10:18] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[10:19] <Iceyes> how can i update ubuntu to latest version stable?
[10:19] <_jason> Iceyes: what version are you using now?
[10:19] <ENE|Toxic> Iceyes: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:19] <NickGarvey> atze: http://nalioth.hostdestroyer.com/comparison.html
[10:19] <Iceyes> i have no idea but i know its isent the newest
[10:19] <belkin> (synaptic:9261): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[10:19] <belkin> NickGarvey thats the error
[10:19] <ENE|Toxic> Iceyes: uname -a
[10:19] <_jason> Iceyes: type 'lsb_release -c' in a terminal
[10:20] <Iceyes> hoary
[10:20] <_jason> ubotu: tell Iceyes about upgrade
[10:20] <NickGarvey> belkin: from what?
[10:20] <_jason> Iceyes: breezy is latest stable
[10:20] <Iceyes> ok
[10:21] <belkin> NickGarvey  easyubuntu
[10:21] <tonyyarusso> What vga mode should I use for a 1280x768 screen?
[10:21] <NickGarvey> belkin: it spit that out?
[10:22] <pike> tonyyarusso: you mean in hex?
[10:22] <tonyyarusso> pike: Yeah.
[10:22] <graveson1> is azureus available for ubuntu
[10:22] <belkin> NickGarvey yeah ... you think i spit it ?
[10:22] <_jason> ubotu: tell graveson1 about azureus
[10:23] <NickGarvey> belkin: its a .sh script right?
[10:23] <baconbacon> anyway, skype is there: ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/pool/i386/non-free/skype/skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb
[10:23] <tonyyarusso> NickGarvey: No, they switched it to python.
[10:23] <apokryphos> graveson1: /msg ubotu azureus
[10:23] <belkin> NickGarvey  yeah i think so ,,, you should know what it is .. you gave me the link :)
[10:23] <NickGarvey> belkin: used it once aw hile ago
[10:23] <NickGarvey> belkin: did all I needed it too
[10:24] <NickGarvey> tonyyarusso: oh cool, python is nice stuff
[10:24] <cannibal27> greetings
[10:24] <NickGarvey> can easy ubuntu be run for the command line?
[10:25] <qualus> heya, how do you get Firefox to be the default browser on your system instead of Konqueror ?
[10:25] <belkin> NickGarvey yeah cheers
[10:25] <cannibal27> Nickgarvey: is easy ubuntu a type of C?
[10:25] <NickGarvey> belkin: ?
[10:25] <Iceyes> _jason i tried  sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is that unstable?
[10:26] <DavidW2> _jason: OK, it's part of libc6 apparenlt. Is there any way I can force a reinstall libc6?
[10:26] <NickGarvey> cannibal27: tonyr said it was python
[10:26] <NickGarvey> cannibal27: tonyy*
[10:26] <cannibal27> ok
[10:26] <_jason> Iceyes: did you modify your sources.list?
[10:26] <Iceyes> _jason no, i think i just typed those things?
[10:26] <DavidW2> I need to force a reinstall with apt-get somehow
[10:26] <belkin> NickGarvey what man ? i said cheers = thanks for the link you gave me ... that packge help me out a lot ;)) deleted already
[10:27] <Iceyes> _jason its first time i use this i dunno anything
[10:27] <atze> how do i view what applications are using which sound devices?
[10:27] <NickGarvey> belkin: oh ok :) sorry about that
[10:27] <_jason> Iceyes: ok I'll walk you through it, let me load up the wiki so you can follow along
[10:27] <DavidW2> What happens if it thinks libc6 is installed, but some of the files are missing, and you want to bring the package back to its original form?
[10:28] <Iceyes> _jason i think it installed the stuff it was like 68 mb but i dunno if its stable
[10:29] <_jason> Iceyes: alright, first we do Pre-upgrade.  Open a terminal, applications > system tools > terminal.  Type 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop'
[10:29] <_jason> without the '
[10:29] <IceTox> Anyone here tried using CounterStrike Stream in ubuntu using Wine? It doesn't work for me.. Someone either able to give me a better solution, or at least analyze the error message I get? I've pasted it in the pastebin -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12852
[10:29] <Iceyes> _jason it says it alredy is the newest
[10:30] <cannibal27> look, all i wanted to do was try ubuntu out, and the disk has erased windoze
[10:30] <Iceyes> _jason what next?
[10:30] <_jason> Iceyes: good, now lets install anybreezy  upgrades you may have: sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:30] <_jason> erm hoary I mean
[10:30] <cannibal27> now i'm stuck with it!
[10:30] <Iceyes> _jason whats the diffrence?
[10:30] <_jason> Iceyes: the difference with?
[10:31] <NickGarvey> cannibal27: eek! how did you delete it!
[10:31] <drip_billy> hello all
[10:31] <NickGarvey> drip_billy: greetings
[10:31] <mzuverink> Does utilizing smeg in Gnome Ubuntu-desktop alter the KDE menu from Kubuntu_desktop?
[10:31] <Iceyes> hoary and breazy?
[10:31] <cannibal27> every time i start the pc, ubuntu....
[10:31] <Amaranth> mzuverink: no
[10:31] <NickGarvey> cannibal27: ah you might have not deleted it
[10:31] <_jason> Iceyes: you have hoary now, breezy is more recent has more recent packages
[10:31] <Amaranth> mzuverink: you want kmenuedit for that
[10:31] <NickGarvey> cannibal27: open a terminal, we will check
[10:31] <_jason> Iceyes: all done with that last command?
[10:31] <cannibal27> nick...i dunno, i think i burned the wrong iso image
[10:31] <Apostle^> !botsnack
[10:31] <ubotu> thanks apostle^ :)
[10:31] <Iceyes> _jason yup
[10:32] <NickGarvey> cannibal27: no no it wouldn't do that, open a terminal we might be able to save windows
[10:32] <cannibal27> ok
[10:32] <_jason> Iceyes: now type this (gedit should open with a bunch of deb lines): gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[10:32] <NickGarvey> cannibal27: windows xp?
[10:32] <_jason> this time, include the '
[10:32] <Edhunter> can anyone help me to get my WLAN working with WPA?
[10:32] <cannibal27> nick....i found the terminal
[10:32] <mzuverink> Amaranth: What about the reverse, can you safely alter the Kubuntu-desktop menu without altering the Ubuntu-desktop?  Thanks for responding so quickly, it is very much appreciated.
[10:32] <NickGarvey> cannibal27: ok now type "sudo su" without the "
[10:33] <_jason> NickGarvey: sudo -i is preferred
[10:33] <cannibal27> nick...yep, xp sp2 fully patched
[10:33] <NickGarvey> _jason: what does that do?
[10:33] <drip_billy> i am needing some mounting help
[10:33] <qualus> can anyone please help ? i need to disable Konqueror from popping up when i i.e. click on links in IRC, instead i want Firefox to handle them.. but i'm at a loss when it comes to Konqueror O_o
[10:33] <NickGarvey> to the man pages!
[10:33] <drip_billy> if anyone is willing to try
[10:33] <Amaranth> mzuverink: yeah, they're separate
[10:33] <_jason> Iceyes: gedit opened up ok?
[10:33] <cannibal27> sudo -1   is that right?
[10:33] <tortho> Anyone who can help me with samba?
[10:33] <mzuverink> Aramanth: Sorry, looked down to type and missed your answer
[10:33] <NickGarvey> cannibal27: sudo -i su
[10:33] <Amaranth> mzuverink: yeah, they're separate
[10:34] <Amaranth> mzuverink: But hopefully not for long (trying to fix that for edgy).
[10:34] <_jason> NickGarvey: just sudo -i, no su
[10:34] <cannibal27> ok
[10:34] <Edhunter> anyone that can make Ubunto 5.10 work with WPA encrytion?
[10:34] <Iceyes> _jason ya, a text window
[10:34] <NickGarvey> _jason: oo
[10:34] <NoUse> tortho be specific in your problem and you have a better chance of getting help
[10:34] <kwiat> it would be nice if anyone could help me with this video encoding related problem: http://pastebin.com/679684 thank you very much!
[10:34] <NickGarvey> ...? he left
[10:34] <_jason> Iceyes: ok, now delete everything in there and replace it with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[10:35] <baconbacon> qualus: #kubuntu
[10:35] <qualus> right
[10:35] <belkin>  i just installed sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb  and how come that java -version output its " java version "1.4.2" its this latest ?
[10:35] <Iceyes> _jason i cant delete anything there?
[10:35] <drip_billy> my problem is i got two HDs with alot of stored files on them that i dont want to lose however i cant get them to mount one is a fat32 and the other is NTFS labeled hdb1 and hdc1 i have treid any and all things to get it to mount and have gotten errors ranging from nonexisting to bad code
[10:35] <mzuverink> Amaranth:  I like the fact they are seperate.  I prefer to use only KDE apps in KDE and the same with gnome.  I stick with the same brrowser in both, but prefer the enviroments offings.  Same look and feel etc...  Plus I do certain things in each desktop.
[10:36] <_jason> Iceyes: why?
[10:36] <NoUse> !tell belkin about multijava
[10:36] <Iceyes> _jason write procection
[10:36] <NoUse> belkin make sure you have the correct JVM selected for your system
[10:36] <_jason> Iceyes: ok close that window.  You need to include the gksudo at the beginning of the command, use everything after the color here:   gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[10:36] <tortho> I'll get the message Not a valid location when i try to access smb://192.168.132.20/tortho/ Am i typing something wrong?
[10:36] <belkin> NoUse how will i do that ?
[10:36] <NoUse> belkin ubotu sent you instructions
[10:36] <_jason> Iceyes: s/color/colon
[10:37] <NoUse> tortho have you set up a share at that location?
[10:37] <belkin> NoUse thank you
[10:38] <belkin> NoUse do i need to get rid of the old version ?
[10:38] <Iceyes> _jason what about the last u wrote?
[10:38] <NoUse> belkin no, which ever version is selected via update-alternatives will be the default
[10:38] <_jason> Iceyes: hmm? you just have to replace it and then save
[10:39] <tortho> NoUse: Yes I have, and if itry to dubble click "windows network" under Places -> Network servers I'll get smb:///  is not a valid location... This is in Dapper, and i'm quite sure it did work after my update...
[10:39] <Iceyes> _jason ok the text file is empty now i place the text there
[10:39] <NoUse> tortho you should go into #ubuntu+1 for dapper stuff
[10:39] <_jason> Iceyes: yes
[10:39] <tortho> NoUse: OK, thanks
[10:39] <jeremybk> Could someone help me with samba
[10:39] <drip_billy> oh and i am using ubuntu 5.1
[10:40] <Iceyes> sources.list gksudo i put the text there and saved
[10:40] <NoUse> jeremybk be more specific with your problem
[10:41] <Iceyes> _jason i think thats done now what next?
[10:41] <jeremybk> I installed samba using synaptic.  im trying to make it mount an XP share when Ubuntu starts up
[10:41] <Error405> How do I get apache to autostart on boot?
[10:41] <_jason> Iceyes: ok now: 'sudo apt-get update && sude apt-get dist-upgrade' and that's it
[10:41] <jeremybk> Whenever it restarts, it asks for a password even though the XP shares arent passworded
[10:41] <_jason> Iceyes: wait!
[10:41] <NoUse> !tell jeremybk about samba
[10:41] <_> umm
[10:41] <NoUse> jeremybk those links should help
[10:42] <|neo> i'm having some prblems... after the ati driver isntalation the resolution's valeable in the kde are not the ones i have selected
[10:42] <NickGarvey> _: could you change your name?.. its going to be very hard to help much..
[10:42] <_jason> Iceyes: made a typo :) should be: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:42] <jeremybk> ok
[10:42] <_> k
[10:42] <jeremybk> thanks
[10:43] <Iceyes> _jason i thinks its done how do i see it is installed properly?
[10:43] <Iceyes> _jason do i have to reboot?
[10:43] <|neo> can i change the relutions listed on kde
[10:43] <_jason> Iceyes: umm wait, that was too fast
[10:43] <_jason> Iceyes: can you copy what it said and paste it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ so I can see?
[10:44] <Error405> do I use rc-update ?
[10:44] <Error405> wait that's not in deb
[10:44] <_jason> Error405: it should do so after isntalling from the repos, no need to do anything else
[10:44] <NickGarvey> Error405: apache doesn't start on boot? and no I don't think thats it
[10:44] <eugen_> hello
[10:44] <NoUse> !tell |neo about fixres
[10:44] <NickGarvey> Error405: should do it out of the box from the repos like _jason said
[10:44] <eugen_> where can i get vedeo codecs for ubuntu??
[10:44] <_jason> ubotu: tell eugen_ about multimedia
[10:44] <NoUse> !tell eugen_ about w32codecs
[10:45] <eugen_> 10x
[10:45] <Chopsuiy> I downloaded a hexeditor and installed it but i can't use it.
[10:45] <eugen_> and where can i get a winapm or something simmilar for ubuntu??
[10:46] <NoUse> !players
[10:46] <ubotu> rumour has it, players is Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[10:46] <ENE|Toxic> Is there a way to see output (scroll) output in basic terminal (what it's called being logged in as failsafe user).
[10:46] <Chopsuiy> I downloaded a hexeditor and installed it but i can't use it.
[10:46] <Iceyes> _jason http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12854
[10:46] <Error405> in addition, how do I get a static IP address?
[10:46] <Chopsuiy> I downloaded a hexeditor and installed it but i can't use it.
[10:46] <Chopsuiy> I downloaded a hexeditor and installed it but i can't use it.someone help??
[10:46] <Iceyes> _jason the problem is i use swedish
[10:47] <_jason> Iceyes: your sources still seem to be hoary, can you do: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'   , and check that you saved properly?
[10:47] <Chopsuiy> I downloaded a hexeditor and installed it but i can't use it.someone help??
[10:47] <NoUse> Error405 System -> Admin -> networking
[10:47] <NoUse> Chopsuiy what do you mean you can't use it?
[10:48] <_jason> ubotu: tell Chopsuiy about repeat
[10:48] <Chopsuiy> it just does not do anything
[10:48] <boonjungo> Hi all :)
[10:48] <kingspawn> Chopsuiy: I suggest you describe your error in a little more detail
[10:48] <Error405> NoUse, I assumed that was how to do it, but alas on reboot it gets a new using DHCP even though I set it for static.
[10:48] <Chopsuiy> I try to open it and nothing happens
[10:49] <baconbacon> what hex editor
[10:49] <kingspawn> Chopsuiy: Is it for the terminal, or a GUI app?
[10:49] <Chopsuiy> version 2.1.10-1
[10:49] <kingspawn> Error405: Error405: cat /etc/network/interfaces and pastebin it
[10:49] <NickGarvey> Chopsuiy: whats the name of it..
[10:49] <Iceyes> _jason i think i saved it properly now, it says when i try upgrade again uknown row
[10:50] <drip_billy> ok if i reinstall ubuntu 5.10 how can i assure that my new hds will get picked up or mounted
[10:50] <kingspawn> Error405: sorry for the double nicking.. =)
[10:50] <Chopsuiy> i dunno the name
[10:50] <kingspawn> Chopsuiy: Then how on earth can you presume to start it?
[10:50] <Error405> ah it's working now, I apologize kingspawn
[10:50] <_jason> Iceyes: can you pastebin what your sources.list contents look like now?
[10:50] <kingspawn> Error405: Np
[10:50] <NickGarvey> Chopsuiy: gather a bit more information about your problem, we can't help if we don't know whats wrong
[10:50] <Chopsuiy> what do you mean
[10:50] <NickGarvey> Chopsuiy: all I know is you don't have a working hex editor that you don't know the name of
[10:51] <NickGarvey> Chopsuiy: certinally not enough to give you any advice on how to fix it
[10:51] <NickGarvey> s/certin/certain/
[10:51] <Iceyes> _jason http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12857
[10:51] <sybariten> i got a guide for setting up samba as a link here earlier. In that one, they set up the windows workgroup/domain for the ubuntu machine, using a gnome networking tool. what if you dont run gnome or X. How can you then set your workgroup name?
[10:52] <NickGarvey> sybariten: look online I'd say, I'm sure theres a conf file to change or such
[10:52] <_jason> Iceyes: you have to visit http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 in a browser and actually copy and paste the text on the page
[10:52] <kingspawn> sybariten: /etc/samba/smb.conf maybe?
[10:53] <graveson1> can someone help me to configure my firewall correctly for azureus(bittorrent)
[10:53] <sybariten> kingspawn: ok, so there is not a "higher" setting that samba takes this from?
[10:53] <kingspawn> sybariten: No idea, hardly ever used samba :)
[10:53] <sybariten> ok
[10:53] <apokryphos> sybariten: http://www.portforward.com/
[10:53] <apokryphos> * graveson1
[10:53] <Error405> anyone mind checking to see if they can connect to my apache server?
[10:53] <radone> using  5.10 _Breezy Badger, jsut installed. Iin source list I have universe, multiverse enabled.
[10:53] <radone> Please could anyone help me why: E: Couldn't find package java-package is displayed?
[10:54] <ENE|Toxic> Error405: sure, ip ?
[10:54] <simonpca> a+
[10:54] <NoUse> !tell radone about javadebs
[10:54] <Error405> http://widgetville.kicks-ass.net
[10:54] <graveson1> apokryphos: yes
[10:54] <apokryphos> graveson1: have you gone to that site?
[10:55] <Humility> Just want to give a quick thanks to the people who were here this morning. I managed to install dapper ... it's absolutely great!
[10:55] <hafta> how to unmount window drive
[10:55] <Error405> are you using xgl Humility?
[10:55] <NickGarvey> hafta: umount /location/of/mount
[10:55] <ENE|Toxic> Error405: if "hi" is the page I'm supposed to see, then yeah
[10:55] <Error405> sweet. my isp didn't block :D
[10:55] <Humility> Error 405, no, I haven't installed xgl. Somehow I'm not really interested lol
[10:56] <Error405> it's unbelievably hot
[10:56] <Iceyes> _jason it asked to download like 275mb so i guess it take some time is that correct?
[10:56] <HaxoR91> hi
[10:56] <graveson1> apokryphos: no i only downloaded the package.sorry let me check it out
[10:56] <hafta> only root can unmount /dev/hdb1 from media/hdb1
[10:56] <_jason> Iceyes: yes
[10:56] <kingspawn> hafta: sudo in front
[10:56] <Humility> Maybe I'll install it in a few days..we'll see ;)
[10:56] <HaxoR91> i wanted to know what was the best bsd os
[10:56] <HaxoR91> they all hard to install
[10:56] <hafta> location??
[10:56] <HaxoR91> me?
[10:56] <Iceyes> _jason: then just wait and reboot and all is done?
[10:56] <kingspawn> HaxoR91: why ask in here about bsd?
[10:57] <_jason> Iceyes: yep
[10:57] <vladuz976> can someone help? i installed dapper on a toshiba dynabook. works fine, only thing is i only get a working network connection if i connect to the ethernet cord before i boot. how can i change that?
[10:57] <boonjungo> trying to update firefox,cough ultranew user
[10:57] <PatrickBic> my laser mouse (vivanco, 1600dpi, usb, wireless) operates very good in ubuntu (6,06) but since i booted it the mouse is slow and so i ask: is there any possibility to adjust the mouse speed in ubuntu?
[10:57] <Iceyes> _jason: oh nice, tyvm for you help and time
[10:57] <HaxoR91> ubotu
[10:57] <Humility> Anyway, brb later!
[10:57] <_jason> Iceyes: np
[10:57] <_jason> Iceyes: and for the next upgrade in June you can use the gui :)
[10:59] <Error405> _jason: upgrade in june?
[10:59] <PatrickBic> my laser mouse (vivanco, 1600dpi, usb, wireless) operates very good in ubuntu (6,06) but since i booted it the mouse is slow and so i ask: is there any possibility to adjust the mouse speed in ubuntu?
[10:59] <Iceyes> _jason i hope ive learned this a little bit more in june, its my absolute first hours spending on linux
[10:59] <hollywoodb> PatrickBic, System -> Preferences -> Mouse -> Motion
[10:59] <_jason> Error405: dapper is scheduled to be released on June 1st
[10:59] <Chopsuiy> There is no name for for this version of hexedit just hexedit 1.2.10-1
[11:00] <hafta> what abot automount
[11:00] <Chopsuiy> that's even what synaptic calls it
[11:00] <PatrickBic> thanks hollywoodb
[11:01] <NoUse> Chopsuiy try installing ghex, I believe thats a hex editor writen for Gnome
[11:01] <teletubbie> what do I install to get kde header files to compile stuff for kde?
[11:01] <hafta> but again it shwing me in my computer
[11:02] <Chopsuiy> k
[11:02] <Chopsuiy> Thx
[11:02] <hafta> window drive
[11:02] <knight__> hello all
[11:02] <HaxoR91> is there a bsd channel/
[11:02] <hafta> i dont want auto mount
[11:02] <HaxoR91> ?
[11:02] <eugman> My printer isn't working. I recently reinstalled. The setup doesn't appear to recieve any jobs at all.
[11:02] <knight__> I am having problems with a nic card
[11:02] <NoUse> HaxoR91 probably at #bsd
[11:02] <HaxoR91> the NoUse
[11:03] <hollywoodb> telemaco: sudo apt-get install kde-devel
[11:03] <knight__> I activate the nic card and it stays the frozen
[11:03] <sesstreets> I cant make bootable ubuntu cds on ubuntu.,..
[11:03] <george-remp> hi, when i ran counter strike with wine a messege tells me that i need activex browser but mozilla activeX control is curently not installed.....any idea how i ca fix this??
[11:03] <patrick24601> synaptic will not install KDE: Fails with  Depends: kdesdk but it is not going to be installed.
[11:04] <patrick24601> What is up with that? Shouldn't it resolved the dependencies?
[11:04] <NoUse> patrick24601 make sure your repos are all in order
[11:04] <NoUse> !tell patrick24601 about repos
[11:04] <boonjungo> Hello,may I ask for some help,humbly?
[11:05] <eugman> Anyone Know how I can figure out why my printer doesn't seem to be accepting jobs?
[11:05] <NoUse> !ask
[11:05] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[11:05] <patrick24601> already enabled
[11:05] <ENE|Toxic> boonjungo: state your question in the main channel so anyone can help
[11:05] <patrick24601> NoUse: Already been there
[11:05] <iloadmine> I have to connection eth0 and eth1 on active of eth1 when u click ok to make it final it just sits there ne clue ad to why?????
[11:05] <boonjungo> I am a first timer,how would I install FIrefox even if I dont know where I downloaded it to
[11:05] <NoUse> patrick24601 go to a console and run sudo apt-get install kdesdk and see why it can't be installed
[11:05] <baconbacon> !firefox
[11:05] <ENE|Toxic> boonjungo: use synaptic, just use it's search tool to find firefox
[11:06] <vladuz976> boonjungo: why don't you use apt-get to install it?
[11:06] <hafta> how to cancel automount???
[11:06] <NickGarvey> hafta: edit /etc/fstab
[11:06] <boonjungo> I have no clue what apt get is
[11:06] <ENE|Toxic> hafta: ctrl+c ?
[11:06] <boonjungo> New LInux user from SOuth Africa
[11:06] <vladuz976> boonjungo: i am sure it's firefox is already installed
[11:06] <boonjungo> Yes,it is installed
[11:06] <vladuz976> boonjungo: so what's the problem?
[11:07] <boonjungo> I ,however would like to run the latest version
[11:07] <Bourlotieris> Hello everyone. Today I installed the gtkAtlantic and tried to find a server but no luck. Anyone knows a server for this game or for London Law (besides the darkrazor.org one)?
[11:07] <hafta> what ctrl+c
[11:07] <graveson1> apokryphos: i cannot find anything regarding firewall setup
[11:07] <NoUse> !tell boonjungo about ff1.5
[11:07] <ENE|Toxic> hafta: that's general for "break"
[11:07] <hafta>  "/etc/fstab" -- using "application/*"
[11:07] <NickGarvey> I get the following error when I try to log in http://pastebin.com/679762
[11:07] <apokryphos> graveson1: the whole site is about firewall setup
[11:07] <vladuz976> boonjungo: you installed breezy?
[11:07] <gudalo> im' happy
[11:07] <ENE|Toxic> hafta: nano or vim or gedit (gedit is easiest)
[11:07] <boonjungo> Yes vladuz976
[11:08] <patrick24601> NoUse: Says it depends on kspy
[11:08] <boonjungo> All very new to me
[11:08] <vladuz976> boonjungo: how come you don't know where you downloaded it to?
[11:08] <NoUse> patrick24601 are you sure you have enabled univserse?
[11:08] <hafta> one text opened
[11:08] <gudalo> is kspy kaspersky?
[11:08] <patrick24601> I installed easyubuntu awhile back which was supposed to do that
[11:09] <graveson1> apokryphos: misunderstanding i got it now-thanks
[11:09] <NoUse> patrick24601 I would double check
[11:09] <vladuz976> boonjungo: if you just clicked on the link i think it downloads to ~/Desktop by default
[11:09] <pike> NickGarvey: sudo rm ~/.ICEauthority
[11:09] <hafta>  "/etc/fstab" -- using "application/*"
[11:09] <hafta> just tell me the command to unmount
[11:09] <hafta> please
[11:09] <baconbacon> umount
[11:09] <boonjungo> Cannot see it anywhere,hehe
[11:09] <boonjungo> It is downloaded though
[11:10] <vladuz976> boonjungo: wget http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-1.5.0.2&os=linux&lang=en-US
[11:10] <vladuz976> boonjungo: try this in your home dir
[11:10] <thecrazymonk> i'm having trouble configuring my linksys wmp54g pci wireless card, i dled a tool that allows me to install the drivers(got it from automatix), the divice shows up in the network config, it sees my network, but when i select it and put in the key, it says the link is 100%(which it cant be) and wont give me internet
[11:10] <ENE|Toxic> hafta: umount /mnt/folder (if /mnt/folder is the folder you mounted it to)
[11:10] <george-remp> hi, when i ran counter strike with wine a messege tells me that i need activex browser but mozilla activeX control is curently not installed.....any idea how i ca fix this??
[11:10] <thecrazymonk> the chip on that card is a broadcom
[11:11] <ENE|Toxic> george-remp: play counter-strike under windows enhanced binaries (in windows!) :)
[11:11] <sesstreets> How do you burn an bootable image to a disk
[11:11] <boonjungo> K,just trying to see what I can do here
[11:11] <NoUse> george-remp you might try asking that question in #wine
[11:11] <george-remp> thanks
[11:11] <ssam> sesstreets, is it an iso file?
[11:11] <sesstreets> yeah
[11:11] <sesstreets> dapper live cd
[11:11] <ssam> sesstreets, right click -> write to disk
[11:12] <sesstreets> didnt boot
[11:12] <Bourlotieris> Hello everyone. Today I installed the gtkAtlantic and tried to find a server but no luck. Anyone knows a server for this game or for London Law (besides the darkrazor.org one)?
[11:12] <NoUse> 6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource)
 Hello,may I ask for some help,humbly?
[11:12] <sesstreets> !upgrade
[11:12] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[11:12] <Zarephath> anyone have phpmyadmin working?
[11:12] <iloadmine> ne1 here no anything about have 2 eth on a meachine I have a question as to how you have them set up
[11:12] <Zarephath> Need some help..can't connect to index.php
[11:12] <eugman> Anyone know why all my print jobs are getting fropped?
[11:13] <joelbryan> anyone, what will happen if I press <ctrl>+<alt>+<delete> in gnome, will it restart my computer or open gnome-system-monitor?
[11:13] <ssam> joelbryan, restart X
[11:13] <NoUse> ssam aren't you thinking of ctrl+alt+backspace?
[11:14] <patrick24601> NoUse: same results  and multiverse is enabled
[11:14] <eugen_> how can i make my NTFS HDD work??
[11:14] <Zarephath> Mine does nothing...
[11:14] <sveni> Im using XGL and want to give the top and bottom side of the cube a background image
[11:14] <ssam> NoUse, oops yes
[11:14] <NoUse> joelbryan I think it just opens gnome montiro
[11:14] <ssam> joelbryan, that will restart the machine
[11:14] <sveni> like in the novell video, is there a howto?
[11:14] <baconbacon> sven_: #ubuntu-xgl
[11:14] <NoUse> patrick24601 multiverse and universe?
[11:14] <Zarephath> eugen: Add the drive to fstab....WARNING...write access to NTFS drives can be dangerous
[11:14] <baconbacon> sveni: #ubuntu-xgl
[11:14] <baconbacon> sry sven_
[11:14] <joelbryan> I can't test it, I have alot of working documents open
[11:14] <patrick24601> NoUse: for cimmunity right?
[11:14] <sveni> thanks
[11:14] <phace> when will the new version of ubuntu be available for download ?
[11:15] <pike> phace: now
[11:15] <NoUse> patrick24601 hmm? kspy is in the universe repo
[11:15] <phace> pike: when ?
[11:15] <ENE|Toxic> phace: 1june
[11:15] <eugman> phace: The stable version june 1st
[11:15] <eugen_> oky
[11:15] <knight__> has anyone taken a look at suse
[11:15] <boonjungo> I have the latest version of firefox on my desktop downloaded,is there something I can type to initialize the installation?
[11:15] <phace> eugman: is there a beta version ?
[11:15] <iloadmine> anyone have 2 eth connection here if you do I have a question as to how you seet it up that way???????
[11:15] <eugen_> can u tell me where can i get an mp3 player soft
[11:15] <NoUse> !tell boonjungo about ff1.5
[11:15] <knight__> with the new workspace 360 effect
[11:16] <NoUse> boonjungo follow the link ubotu sent you
[11:16] <baconbacon> !tell eugen_ about mp3
[11:16] <phace> oh and one more thing is there a 2.6.16.11 version of the kernel for ubuntu ?
[11:16] <Marineboy> phace: there is a betta version.
[11:16] <knight__> eugen_ download xmms player
[11:16] <boonjungo> It is highly confusing Nouse!
[11:16] <eugman> Yes there is . Do you think you can do a search for dapper in thewiki and find it or do you need a link?
[11:16] <joelbryan> anyone would like to test ctrl+alt+del?
[11:16] <eugen_> ok thanks
[11:16] <NoUse> boonjungo which part?
[11:16] <Zarephath> joelbryan: Pay attention...it does nothing on my machine
[11:16] <joelbryan> thanks!
[11:16] <NoUse> boonjungo it tells you exactly what to type
[11:17] <knight__> eugen_  you can downlod them in synaptic package manager
[11:17] <iloadmine> joelbryan I just did it in breezy but I got nothing by pressing ctrl alt delete
[11:17] <Marineboy> !wiki
[11:17] <joelbryan> thsnks
[11:17] <Iceyes> !xmms
[11:17] <ubotu> [xmms]  to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary and Breezy, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[11:18] <hafta> i wanna to know how to cancel auto mount window drive on boot UP
[11:18] <sorush20> hi guys
[11:18] <boonjungo> "#
[11:18] <boonjungo> change to the directory you downloaded it to.
[11:18] <boonjungo> #
[11:18] <boonjungo> Install it to /opt/firefox: "
[11:18] <iloadmine> ANYONE HERE USE TWO ETH CONNECTIONS I HAVE A QUESTION AS TO HOW YOU SET IT UP?????
[11:18] <boonjungo> Explain?
[11:19] <patrick24601> dont yell
[11:19] <sorush20> I really don't know what has happened I keep getting the message when the grub is tryig to load, like
[11:19] <patrick24601> NoUse: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12860
[11:19] <sorush20> GRUB
[11:19] <polpak> !caps
[11:19] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[11:19] <sorush20> nothing else is happening after that.
[11:19] <pike> hafta: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:19] <NoUse> boonjungo the page explains how to do that
[11:19] <thecrazymonk> i'm having trouble configuring my linksys wmp54g pci wireless card, i dled a tool that allows me to install the drivers(got it from automatix), the divice shows up in the network config, it sees my network, but when i select it and put in the key, it says the link is 100%(which it cant be) and wont give me internet
[11:19] <simonpca> plop
[11:19] <NoUse> boonjungo read further
[11:19] <hafta> what to edit there
[11:19] <hafta> pike:  ??
[11:19] <iloadmine> sorry I just want to no if anyone has a similar setup
[11:20] <hafta> pike: what i do there
[11:20] <hafta> pike: in that text window
[11:20] <NoUse> patrick24601 your repos are messed up somehow
[11:20] <wass_> rello, I just bought a Microsoft Intellimouse explorer for bluetooth.  I run breezy, do I need a special configuration for that ?
[11:20] <patrick24601> NoUse: any eay way to reset
[11:20] <NoUse> patrick24601 you running breezy?
[11:20] <eugen_> i still can not see my second hdd NTFS
[11:20] <hafta> pike: in that text window????
[11:21] <iloadmine> cya you guys latter i'll ask you all in the morning
[11:21] <polpak> iloadmine, the network card drivers should load fine if they're supported. As for configuring them you just use System->Administration->Networking
[11:21] <patrick24601> NoUse:  whatever the ltest iso is - i think it is
[11:21] <Bourlotieris> Hello everyone. Today I installed the gtkAtlantic and tried to find a server but no luck. Anyone knows a server for this game or for London Law (besides the darkrazor.org one)?
[11:21] <pike> hafta: you will see a line for the ntfs parttion you can remove it or comment it out if you want
[11:22] <NoUse> patrick24601 cat /etc/lsb-release
[11:22] <eugen_> help please
[11:22] <eugen_> can u tell me how to make my NTFS HDD work??
[11:22] <NoUse> !tell eugen_ about ntfs
[11:22] <eugen_> i have important data on it
[11:22] <hafta> pike: #Added by diskmounter utility
[11:22] <hafta> in this
[11:22] <patrick24601> NoUse:  Breezy
[11:22] <NoUse> ok
[11:22] <iloadmine> polpak I have etho active it the one I use for the server I have configured eth1 for the Thin Client but it taking a very long time to to really active after I hit ok any suggestions?
[11:23] <NoUse> patrick24601 run the following in a console: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6047 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:23] <Iceyes> is it possible to force close a program?
[11:23] <hafta> pike: ??
[11:23] <pike> hafta: not sure of you question sorr?
[11:23] <NoUse> patrick24601 then apt-get update
[11:23] <hafta> pike: /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[11:24] <NoUse> patrick24601 if you just want all of kde, install kubuntu-desktop
[11:24] <hafta> i wanna cancel Automount on start UP
[11:24] <hafta> pike: of window drive
[11:24] <hafta> how to do it
[11:24] <_jason> hafta: use the 'noauto' option in fstab
[11:24] <pike> hafta: you can remove that or just add a # at beginng if you dont want it to mount at bootup
[11:24] <pike> or that
[11:24] <Iceyes> can i force a program to close in some way?
[11:25] <Rhyste> Is there any special way to set up wireless internet that runs through a USB based wireless-thinger =/
[11:25] <bimberi> Iceyes: Applications -> System Tools -> System Monitor
[11:25] <Rhyste> It's not recognizing it right now
[11:25] <polpak> iloadmine, is eth1 configured using dhcp?
[11:25] <_harm> can i upgrade to dapperF6 via consule or do i need to download and burn an iso?
[11:25] <Seq> can anybody point me to some way to determine if a fsck on almost every boot (that only recovers journal and works fine thereafter) is a hardware issue, or caused by some sort of software issue?
[11:25] <baconbacon> _harm: #ubuntu+!
[11:25] <baconbacon> _harm: #ubuntu+1
[11:25] <NoUse> !tell _harm about upgrade
[11:25] <Iceyes> bimberi ty
[11:26] <bimberi> Iceyes: yw :)
[11:26] <iloadmine> polpak, eth0 has DHCP setup and I have to use eth1 with a static ipaddress
[11:26] <eugman> Anyone have an idea why it says my printer is offline? The cable is connected and the printer is flashing it's ready light.
[11:27] <Rhyste> Is there any special way to set up wireless internet that runs through a USB based wireless-thinger =/...I have it running fine on windows but it's not recognized on Ubuntu
[11:27] <iloadmine> polpak, be write back in a few i'll look for you
[11:27] <mantono> How can I stop gdm from starting at boot?
[11:27] <Blissex> Seq: make sure that the root file system is mounted 'rw' in '/etc/fstab'. But usually it is just a dmon that won't die before shutdown
[11:27] <polpak> iloadmine, well generally the "slowness" when activating network interfaces is caused by the dhcp handshake, etc
[11:27] <Iceyes> xmms just hang when try to play an .mp3 whats wrong?
[11:27] <polpak> mantono, remove the symlink for it in /etc/rc2.d
[11:27] <mantono> polpak: thanks :)
[11:28] <Dime|RD> anyone able to help me with Samba?
[11:28] <Dime|RD> ive got it up and running
[11:28] <Dime|RD> but on my windows xp machine
[11:28] <Seq> Blissex: the root system is mounted rw by default, but switches to ro on a journal error. doing a fsck and rebooting (since numerous services failed to start anyway) brings the system operational again.
[11:28] <farruinn> Rhyste: Are you trying to connect to the internet via usb or wireless?
[11:28] <Dime|RD> it doesnt always come up in my networks
[11:28] <Dime|RD> and has problems connecting to it when logging in
[11:28] <mad_matt> does anyone here use firestarter?
[11:28] <Dime|RD> it is fully setup
[11:29] <farruinn> Rhyste: Or are you trying to forward your connection to the wireless via usb?
[11:29] <PeteOI812> firestarter?
[11:29] <Rhyste> farruinn- It's a wireless network but my desktop connects through a USB wireless network adapter
[11:29] <Iceyes> xmms just hang when try to play an .mp3 what could be wrong?
[11:29] <mad_matt> yeah it's a firewall
[11:29] <patrick24601> NoUse:  Still can't install kde
[11:30] <NoUse> patrick24601 what error?
[11:30] <bimberi> Dime|RD: Samba has a separate password list - 'sudo smbpasswd -a <yourusername>'
[11:30] <pike> ubotu: tell Iceyes about mp3
[11:30] <baconbacon> Iceyes: try changing oss for ALSA in preferences maybe
[11:30] <patrick24601> NoUse:  same as the last pastebin
[11:30] <baconbacon> Iceyes: if you already have mp3 support of course
[11:30] <mad_matt> has anyone here had any experience with firestarter
[11:31] <NoUse> patrick24601 apt-get install kspy and see what it doesn't like
[11:31] <Iceyes> !.mp3
[11:31] <ubotu> Iceyes: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:31] <EvilDin> where can i set iptables conf file
[11:31] <kingspawn> !restrictedformats
[11:31] <ubotu> I guess restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:31] <kingspawn> Iceyes: ^^^
[11:32] <trappist> anyone know why my cdrom doesn't show up at all?  I can boot to it, so the box knows it's there, but there's no /dev/hdc
[11:32] <patrick24601> NoUse:   kdelibs4-dev
[11:32] <loply> hi folks
[11:32] <trappist> (it would be /dev/hdc if it were there)
[11:32] <kingspawn> trappist: show up in sudo lshw -C disk ?
[11:32] <hachre> hiya
[11:32] <NoUse> patrick24601 something is hosed on your system, I don't know what
[11:32] <NoUse> patrick24601 try apt-get dist-upgrade or apt-get -f install
[11:33] <trappist> kingspawn: oops, lemme try that and ask again when I'm at that box :)
[11:33] <loply> I have an iBook with Dapper on it, and MP3 files play really quietly in Banshee/Rythmbox even though system sounds (gaim, gnome, etc) are very loud... Ive checked all the volumes, theyre on full... Any ideas what to do?
[11:33] <trappist> kingspawn: but with no /dev/hdc, $10 says no
[11:33] <loply> I guess its the gstreamer plugin
[11:33] <hachre> im using 6.06 and i have 3.0.22-1ubuntu1 installed. When I set up a "guest account = something" in the /etc/samba/smb.conf it still keeps creating files as nobody which is the default setting. is this a bug or am i doing something wrong?
[11:33] <farruinn> Rhyste: I don't have a wireless adapter, but have you looked for yours on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport?
[11:33] <[blindx] > haha, running ubuntu live at my school :P
[11:33] <kingspawn> trappist: heh, yeah, a good bet
[11:34] <hachre> oops
[11:34] <loply> hachre: There is a samba directive which is something like "force user" and "force group" which ive found useful in the past, try using both of them to force the user you want
[11:34] <Rhyste> farruinn- that's a good idea, thanks a million
[11:34] <trappist> kingspawn: it started after upgrading my mobo/cpu/distro to 64bit
[11:34] <baconbacon> hachre: maybe #ubuntu+1 can help better
[11:34] <HaxoR91> how do i make a bootable floppy with ubuntu?
[11:34] <kingspawn> trappist: Ah, 64bit is a nightmare.
[11:34] <hachre> loply: thanks ill try that
[11:34] <hachre> baconbacon: thanks
[11:34] <trappist> kingspawn: not nearly as bad as I thought, so far.  I've run into some issues, but google has solved most of them
[11:35] <kingspawn> trappist: hehe, good. Im not switching till everybody gets up to speed
[11:35] <mad_matt> !firefox
[11:35] <trappist> kingspawn: the 32bit chroot solves pretty much everything
[11:35] <altair> oi
[11:36] <kingspawn> trappist: Yeah, but thats just not something Im interested in right now ;)
[11:36] <mad_matt> !firefox1.5
[11:36] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:36] <kingspawn> trappist: My trusty old 1.8ghz amd is doing its job nicely :)
[11:36] <hachre> loply: thanks this is very useful
[11:36] <hachre> loply: it works now :)
[11:36] <tdn> Why must VNC be so hard to set up?
[11:36] <trappist> kingspawn: yeah that's what I got rid of for this, because my motherboard was dying.  if I could get a /dev/hdc I'd be a happy man.
[11:36] <[blindx] > vnc is easy to set up
[11:37] <HaxoR91> how do i make a bootable floppy?
[11:37] <HaxoR91> for bsd?
[11:37] <HaxoR91> freebsd
[11:37] <loply> hachre: Ive found it useful for all sorts in the past, remember it :)
[11:37] <[blindx] > Am I going to be able to mount an NTFS disk from ubuntu live?
[11:37] <trappist> HaxoR91: if you have a floppy image, dd if=filename.img of=/dev/fd0 - if not, wrong channel.
[11:37] <trappist> [blindx] : read-only
[11:37] <kingspawn> trappist: Hehe, yeah, if my setup fails I'll opt for amd64, no doubt
[11:38] <tdn> [blindx] , well... I have used TightVNC for Windows for years. It is very easy to set up. But I can't seem to set up vnc on Linux.
[11:38] <tdn> [blindx] , will you help me?
[11:38] <kingspawn> HaxoR91: Try out any flavor of #freebsd, #openbsd, #dragonfly
[11:38] <pike> tdn: i really prefer freenx these days https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[11:39] <[blindx] > tdn: what problem are you having?
[11:39] <tdn> pike, what is freenx? Does it work with tightvnc as a client?
[11:39] <BockBilbo> hello
[11:39] <NoUse> tdn go to System-> preferences -> Remote Desktop
[11:39] <loply> I have an iBook with Dapper on it, and MP3 files play really quietly in Banshee/Rythmbox even though system sounds (gaim, gnome, etc) are very loud... Ive checked all the volumes, theyre on full... Any ideas what to do?
[11:39] <loply> I guess its the gstreamer plugin or something
[11:39] <pike> tdn: no you would have to download the nomachine client for windows
[11:39] <BockBilbo> ive just added a serial ata HD to my pc... how can i know if ubuntu detects it?
[11:39] <loply> BockBilbo: dmesg | grep ^hd | less
[11:40] <kingspawn> BockBilbo: check /var/log/messages, or simply type dmesg | grep hd
[11:40] <[blindx] > trappist, I understand it would be read only. I am having an issue mounting, though
[11:40] <loply> kingspawn: Pow! Beat you to it
[11:40] <tdn> [blindx] , I am having trouble setting up a tightvnc server so that I can control my linux computer from Windows computers like from the school and such. I know that I can use X for that, but I want to "emulate" that I am physically in front of the computer.
[11:40] <[blindx] > system > preferences > remote desktop
[11:41] <[blindx] > check the box that says "allow clients to control" or whatever it says
[11:41] <MisterN> n8
[11:41] <kingspawn> loply: :)) but ^hd?
[11:41] <BockBilbo> ./
[11:41] <polpak> tdn, why does that matter? Linux doesn't really make a distinction
[11:41] <pike> [blindx] : mount -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/something not work?
[11:41] <loply> kingspawn: Yeah, the kernel outputs like... "hdc: Seagatge ST89838" and a similar line for each hard drive
[11:41] <[blindx] > i didn't do all that. let me try
[11:42] <pike> tdn: i have had problems with tightvnc client before though. try another client maybe
[11:42] <loply> kingspawn: else you might pick up lots of lines with "hd" inside other words
[11:42] <kingspawn> loply: It prefixes all my lines with the date, making ^hd do nothing
[11:42] <BockBilbo> kingspawn, wont it be ata?
[11:42] <loply> kingspawn: Ahh, curses
[11:42] <tdn> [blindx] , ok. Thanks. I'll try that.
[11:42] <loply> kingspawn: Bleh, new kernels. Who wants them?
[11:42] <kingspawn> loply: ;)
[11:42] <[blindx] > trappist: i get "mount: mount point /mnt/hda1 does not exist"
[11:42] <kingspawn> BockBilbo: No, still be hd
[11:42] <BockBilbo> i mean.. if found this at dmesg:  ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x9400 ctl 0x9802 bmdma 0xA400 irq 20
[11:43] <kingspawn> BockBilbo: It should output something about which /dev/hd* it is too
[11:43] <Dime|RD> How do i move files?
[11:43] <kingspawn> Dime|RD: mv
[11:43] <Dime|RD> ok
[11:43] <BockBilbo> well i se no new ponter..
[11:43] <kingspawn> BockBilbo: sudo lshw -c disk
[11:43] <polpak> [blindx] , well then create the directory
[11:43] <[blindx] > i did
[11:43] <[blindx] > mount: /dev/hda already mounted or /mnt/hda busy
[11:43] <[blindx] > :\
[11:43] <kingspawn> BockBilbo: sorry, sudo lshw -C DISK
[11:44] <polpak> [blindx] , I think you forgot the 1 ?
[11:44] <BockBilbo> kingspawn, nothing
[11:44] <BockBilbo> it detects the other ata disk
[11:44] <BockBilbo> and the cdrom
[11:44] <BockBilbo> but not the newly installed serial ata disk
[11:44] <[blindx] > no, i've tried a bunch of different commands, just pasted the wrong response.
[11:44] <polpak> [blindx] , also make sure you aren't in the /mnt/hda directory before you mount it
[11:44] <tdn> Now. How do I connect to this vnc server that I just enabled from System -> Pref. -> Remote desktop?
[11:44] <[blindx] > I'm not.
[11:45] <polpak> [blindx] , well what's the right response?
[11:45] <MetaMorfoziS> good night all!
[11:45] <harisund> tdn From which machine are you planning to connect to your current machine?
[11:45] <NoUse> tdm that dialog game you the address
[11:45] <BockBilbo> kingspawn, what should i do? recheck if everything is plugged fine?
[11:45] <NoUse> it opens a VPN server at localhost:0
[11:45] <[blindx] > it's the same thing, just with a 1 :P
[11:45] <eugen_> when i try to acces my ntfs partition it tels me that i don`t have permission to acces it !! why??
[11:45] <Dime|RD> wont let me move a file
[11:45] <kingspawn> BockBilbo: Does bios/other see it?
[11:45] <kingspawn> BockBilbo: you visited the bios to make sure everything was okay?
[11:45] <BockBilbo> nope
[11:46] <kingspawn> Dime|RD: depends on which file you want to move where
[11:46] <BockBilbo> im remotely controlled this pc
[11:46] <BockBilbo> its my server
[11:46] <kingspawn> BockBilbo: Then that is a safe bet
[11:46] <Dime|RD> im logged in as root
[11:46] <BockBilbo> so.. should i check my bios?
[11:46] <kingspawn> BockBilbo: Still, when dealing with hardware, you need to get down and dirty
[11:46] <Dime|RD> im trying to mv a file to /usr/local/bin
[11:46] <kingspawn> Dime|RD: Well, then it will 99% surely let you move the file
[11:46] <BockBilbo> alrite kingspawn
[11:46] <BockBilbo> thanks so
[11:46] <kingspawn> np
[11:46] <BockBilbo> im gonna take a look at the bios
[11:47] <BockBilbo> and if it is not showed up there, ill recheck the plugs
[11:47] <kingspawn> BockBilbo: Good plan
[11:47] <BockBilbo> cya
[11:47] <kingspawn> gl
[11:47] <Chriffer> Does the livecd installer delete all partitions by default?
[11:48] <kingspawn> Chriffer: No
[11:48] <Chriffer> I was just blindly clicking through it and bad things seem to have happened
[11:48] <_harm> bash: gksudo: command not found <-- what the hell
[11:48] <Chriffer> hopefully it's just my grub is lost
[11:48] <kingspawn> Chriffer: Well, then its not by "default" is it?
[11:48] <Chriffer> I never told it hey delete everything or anything like that
[11:48] <kingspawn> Chriffer: "blindly clicking"...
[11:48] <Chriffer> Or even install to a particular hard drive
[11:49] <kingspawn> Chriffer: It comes with the territory of "blindly clicking"
[11:49] <Chriffer> I was just enering what it asked like keyboard layout and username
[11:49] <[blindx] > I just used diskmounter. Easiest thing to mount ntfs drives.
[11:50] <tdn> Thanks for the help with VNC guys! It was in fact quite easy to set up. You don't wan't to know the things I've tried to make it work ;)
[11:50] <[blindx] > lol tdn.
[11:50] <Dime|RD> how do i make a directory?
[11:50] <looksaus> firefox freezes regularly here
[11:50] <looksaus> ppc, dapper
[11:50] <kingspawn> Dime|RD: mkdir
[11:50] <[blindx] > Dime|RD,  mkdir
[11:50] <looksaus> http://www.standaard.be/Artikel/Detail.aspx?artikelId=DMF24042006_103
[11:50] <looksaus> oops, sorry, wrong paste
[11:51] <looksaus> *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x7fd73b04 ***
[11:51] <idefix_> every time I log in with GAIM my router crashes, why is this?
[11:51] <idefix_> status=orange
[11:52] <kingspawn> idefix_: No idea, but Ive had some weird things happen with Gaim too. I think its pretty sloppishly coded
[11:52] <idefix_> I replaced my motherboard should I reinstall linux?
[11:52] <idefix_> motherboard and processor
[11:52] <eugen_> how can i make my tv-tunner work??
[11:52] <polpak> idefix_, shouldn't have to
[11:52] <hachre> idefix_: : no
[11:53] <polpak> idefix_, unless you switched to a different arch
[11:53] <idefix_> what's an arch?
[11:53] <polpak> eugen_, what kind of tv-tuner?
[11:53] <hachre> something like amd64 instead of x86
[11:53] <kingspawn> idefix_: if you want my point of view, you should not have to, but often you need to.
[11:53] <Chriffer> I guess I should never pick the easy option
[11:53] <osotogari> hello all, is anyhere familiar with Firestarter?
[11:53] <kingspawn> Chriffer: Right-o
[11:53] <eugen_> x-pert with connexant chip set
[11:54] <Chriffer> I generally install textmode minimal and go from there
[11:54] <Chriffer> but no I had to test the livecd
[11:54] <Chriffer> now I have to go rescue all my data
[11:54] <idefix_> its the amd seperon 2800+
[11:54] <kingspawn> Chriffer: Haha. Go with what you know, man :)
[11:54] <LoMonteiro> idefix_: Seperon = Sempron ?
[11:54] <idefix_> yes
[11:54] <Chriffer> The kubuntu livecd install asked nothing of HDs or partitions or anything, and it didn't work
[11:55] <hachre> idefix_: sempron is x86 i think
[11:55] <hachre> idefix_: so you dont have to do anything
[11:55] <Iceyes> I installed the package for mp3 playback and still cant play them what could be wrong?
[11:55] <idefix_> oke thanks
[11:55] <polpak> Iceyes, did you follow the wiki? there are several things you need
[11:56] <Chriffer> There's no way it did what it did, I refuse to believe it
[11:56] <idefix_> is there an alternative to GAIM?
[11:56] <Iceyes> polpak ya, here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:56] <[blindx] > Photoshop CS2 just DOESN'T wanna run under ubuntu :[
[11:56] <eugen_> how can i make my tv-tuner work is an x-pert tv with connexant chip set
[11:56] <kingspawn> [blindx] : who woulda thunk it
[11:57] <meshe> i'm going to buy a pci 802.11 G card for my ubuntu workstation, what's the most recommended card?  I'm running a Linksys WRT54GS router at home
[11:57] <hachre> idefix_: alot
[11:57] <[blindx] > guess I'm stuck with PS7 hah
[11:57] <polpak> [blindx] , there's always the gimp
[11:57] <hachre> idefix_: use synaptic and search for icq in descriptions
[11:57] <kingspawn> blindx: thats not free software! SHAME on you
[11:57] <eth0> hi, anyone know of an itunes type program that will run on ubuntu?
[11:57] <[blindx] > meshe, go with WMP54GS then
[11:57] <polpak> !tunes
[11:57] <hachre> eth0: rhythmbox
[11:57] <ubotu> polpak: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:57] <[blindx] > polpak: nah, i'll stick with PS7
[11:57] <polpak> !itunes
[11:57] <kingspawn> eth0: I think I have heard something of gtkpod and rhythmbox
[11:57] <Iceyes> polpak, i dont get the same error message when i try to play them now but they still dont work?
[11:57] <eth0> hachre: thanks :)
[11:57] <eth0> kingspawn: thanks
[11:57] <meshe> does that require ndiswrapper? or does ubuntu natively have the driver for it?
[11:57] <osotogari> @ eth0: Amarok works for me
[11:58] <[blindx] > no ndiswrapper required
[11:58] <polpak> Iceyes, do you get an error?
[11:58] <Apostle^> how do i resize my home partition to make room for windows?
[11:58] <polpak> Apostle^, gparted
[11:58] <kingspawn> Apostle^: your /home?
[11:58] <Apostle^> kingspawn: yea
[11:58] <Iceyes> xmms hangs, tomem give me an error message
[11:58] <LoMonteiro> Hi, when I open MPlayer - Error! New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf).
[11:59] <Apostle^> polpak: i need to boot from a live-cd don't i
[11:59] <kingspawn> Apostle^: well, gparted is a bet. but seriously, please back up your stuff :)
[11:59] <eth0> are all those programs for legal mp3s?
[11:59] <polpak> Apostle^, it'd probably be easier yes
[11:59] <meshe> thx [blindx] , i've used the pcmcia version of the GS on my laptop and it required the ndiswrapper
[11:59] <Apostle^> polpak: or just unmount /home ?
[11:59] <polpak> Apostle^, that would work too
[11:59] <concept10> Firestarter will start when I use root account but not user accounts.  Any suggestions?
[11:59] <[blindx] > meshe: well I know wmp54g doesn't. i might be wrong about gs
[11:59] <kingspawn> LoMonteiro: I get that too, but I dont care. (Im an outlaw ;)
[11:59] <polpak> Apostle^, but like kingspawn said.. be sure you've backed up the important stuff
[11:59] <idefix_> hachre, it's a big list, which one do you recommend?
[11:59] <Apostle^> polpak: just sudo umount /home ?
[11:59] <Iceyes> polpak xmms hangs, tomem give me an error message and rythmbox hangs too
[11:59] <polpak> Apostle^, yep
[11:59] <eth0> kingspawn: are both those for legal mp3s?
[12:00] <kingspawn> Apostle^: back    -   up :)
[12:00] <hachre> idefix_: i use gaim :)
[12:00] <idefix_> but it's sloppish!
[12:00] <kingspawn> eth0: Whats a legal mp3?