=== superseth [n=smarinel@24-205-231-12.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #edubuntu === linuxboy [n=anon@yoda.frogfoot.net] has joined #edubuntu === linuxboy [n=anon@yoda.frogfoot.net] has joined #edubuntu === alexcamilo [n=alexcami@KAMIRO87-01.WIFI.WPI.EDU] has joined #edubuntu === superseth [n=smarinel@24-205-231-12.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === superset1 [n=smarinel@24-205-231-12.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === bash [n=bash@pc-55-105-104-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:28] Hello. Is it possible to download the polish language content via apt-get for the edubuntu apps [02:29] i tried "apt-cache search polish" and "apt-cache search pl" [02:29] *sudo [02:29] I'm pretty sure if you install the polish language packs then you will get what has been translated [02:29] what are they called? [02:30] nvm i'l hit up google and come back if search comes up dry [02:30] alexcamilo: language-pack-pl [02:31] oh, thanx [02:31] np [02:32] alexcamilo: and you might want language-support-pl if you don't have it already [02:33] hmm. not popping up. do i need to add a repository? [02:36] hmm, what release of ubuntu are you using? [02:37] edubuntu 5.10 [02:37] ahh, what I gave you might be for 6.06 [02:38] actually, they are in the Main repository in breezy [02:39] is there something like updating apt-cache [02:39] like the list [02:39] apt-get update [02:41] doesnt seem to help [02:41] maybe i should spin the install disk while online. someone told me it will grab what it needs. [02:41] hmm, odd, but unfortunately I have to go [02:41] thanx for the help [02:41] it is there I'm sure [02:41] somewhere [02:41] i'l keep messin around toll it works === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as LaserJock_away === superseth [n=smarinel@24-205-231-12.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-130-84-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:41] i've noticed something odd about the splash screen in edubuntu. it's nice and shiny provided that nothing goes wrong but when something fails it goes back to white text mode. marks it as "failed" and continues. is there any way to tell it to stay in that spash screen? its annoying when something like contacting the ntp server when not online fails. === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has joined #edubuntu === neurogeek [n=neurogee@201.211.166.11] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === B4zzA [n=chevron_@l2-202-89-183-33.arach.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has joined #edubuntu === superseth [n=smarinel@24-205-231-12.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === DarkElf [n=109rattl@ip68-98-18-98.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #edubuntu === DarkElf is now known as DarkElf109 [05:00] Hey there. I was wondering, is it possible to configure auto-login with LTSP clients? I've searched the 'net and forums high and low, and there have only been vague mentionings of it. If it is possible, how is it done? === HedgeMage [i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock_away is now known as LaserJock === DarkElf109 [n=109rattl@ip68-98-18-98.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #edubuntu [] === HedgeMage [i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has joined #edubuntu === B4zzA2 [n=chevron_@l2-202-89-183-254.arach.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as LaserJock_away === zakame [n=zak@210.1.85.16] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.108.229] has joined #edubuntu === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-165-196-126.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === eniac_petrov [n=admin@212.124.89.173] has joined #edubuntu [08:25] hi aLL [08:27] hi eniac_petrov [08:27] I'm only somewhat here, but if you want my attention just hilight me (say my name) [08:27] :) === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@mail.trinsite.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [08:39] ok [08:39] np [08:39] thanks [08:39] hi all [08:39] hi [08:39] ogra's not around yet is he? === HedgeMage always assumed ogra was a "she"... at least it would make sense if named for the character in Dark Crystal === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@mail.trinsite.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === pips1 [n=philipp@182-170.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu === crimsun [i=crimsun@hacked.org] has joined #edubuntu [09:35] HedgeMage: no ogra is a he [09:35] HedgeMage: oliver grawert, not a women [09:35] HedgeMage: and he is named after himself ;) === Burgundavia suddnetly has a vision of ogra is drag... [09:35] ogra = Oliver Grawert [09:36] ahhh [09:36] although it's pretty cool if that's a character somewhere too [09:36] JaneW: I thought perhaps it was the interesting woman with the mechanical model of outer space and the removable eye from the movie Dark Crystal [09:37] lol [09:37] (Jim Hensen's first movie, yay muppets!) [09:37] Muppets are cool === eniac_petrov [n=admin@212.124.89.173] has left #edubuntu [] [09:42] prtty kewl that his namse makes up ogra :p [09:42] I'd get [09:42] psav [09:42] that sux [09:45] lol [09:45] I'd get SSTEW which sounds like some horrible sea ration :P === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [10:18] i get hbos, and i already use that :p [10:18] on launchpad [10:19] excellent [10:19] it is funny how people come up with their handles [10:19] I just can't get the hang of this karma business [10:20] you don't want to know how i got up with "spacey" [10:20] hehehe [10:20] cbx33: its really simple: its not important :P so don't worry about it :) [10:20] just makes me laugh that's all [10:20] I've been inactive the past few days and it keeps going up and up [10:20] heheh === jinty [n=jinty@84.Red-83-55-199.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === sm|away is now known as sankarshan === B4zzA3 [n=chevron_@l2-202-89-181-19.arach.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === B4zzA [n=chevron_@l2-202-89-181-19.arach.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu [12:09] ogra: you around yet bud? === Bluekuja [n=bluekuja@host199-235.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has joined #edubuntu === B4zzA [n=chevron_@l2-202-89-181-19.arach.net.au] has joined #edubuntu [12:17] hi Bluekuja [12:17] hey pete [12:17] :) [12:17] sorry I didn't get round to checking those channels yesterdya, I had to go out [12:17] np man [12:18] you can come when you want [12:18] didn't even get the changes done for ogra till this morning === ogra waves [12:18] howz it all going. I see you're a member of quite a few groups now :d [12:18] hi ogra [12:18] wnat that URL [12:18] lol [12:18] http://www.progbox.co.uk/bazaar/ltsp/devel [12:19] yup, i just reloaded :) [12:19] cool [12:19] ok ogra got a bit of bad news. I still can't install LTSP [12:19] i had tried on two machines now [12:19] both with and without network capability [12:19] i'll do a i386 test ijnstall during the day [12:19] I don't know what's going wrong but it sure as hell ain't working [12:20] just tocheck..I'm installing it onto a laptop [12:20] that shouldn't make a difference should it? [12:20] as i said, i could explain it if you have a more recent daily build than the beta is [12:20] since there are packages missing on the CD [12:20] I have tried it with 24/04/06 [12:20] due to overzizedness [12:20] I went back to the older ones [12:21] none of them work. I was trying the beta seeing as I thought it shuld be the most stable of all the recent ones [12:21] ok, a hint [12:21] before you download have a look at this file [12:21] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current/report.html [12:21] if its empty, everything is ok [12:21] indeed [12:22] was it empty on the 20/04/06 [12:22] if you see some stuff like alien or lsb thats a very good indicator the iso is oversized [12:22] if so i want that iso back [12:22] heh [12:22] i think that's the one i used [12:23] then it also depends if you have a YYYYMMDD iso or a YYYMMDD.1 iso :) [12:23] ah...me thinks it was a .1 [12:23] i think the one we released as beta was at least a .1 if not a .2 [12:23] .1 should be fine [12:23] do you have it anywhere still? [12:24] cos it's dissapoeared from the archive [12:24] http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dapper/ [12:24] only the recent 3 isos are kept by default [12:24] (from the dailies) [12:29] are the others deleted? [12:29] yep [12:29] dog nang it === cbx33 wants an LTSP server again....was gonna work on getting winbind working [12:30] :( [12:31] ogra: did those LTSP changes come down ok? [12:31] i have some other stuff to do currently, but will look at them during the next hour [12:31] sorry ogra not meaning to be nagging [12:31] nah, its fine [12:31] sorry ogra not meaning to be nagging [12:32] sorry ogra not meaning to be a nag [12:32] i'm just out of diskspace on this machine and need to free up some space [12:32] :) === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@mail.trinsite.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [12:41] phew - it's hot in this office today [12:41] well i say office...did i mention i work in an ex-toilet :p [12:41] heh [12:43] the total opening window area is less than .5m square === cbx33 gets headaches.....a lot ! === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #edubuntu [12:48] hi, what ltsp version does dapper/edubuntu comes with? how hard is it to upgrade to 4.2? [12:49] Sergi0, ubuntu-ltsp [12:49] its newer than 4.2 [12:50] ah, great :D damn u are good! [12:52] but we lack local device support out of the box ... [12:52] ogra: will that be in eft? [12:52] the rest is similar bt different :) [12:52] is there a howto on setting up that? [12:52] i.e. we use the so called muecow implementation which only uses distro packaages [12:52] cbx33, not yet [12:52] will there be? [12:52] :p [12:52] i still have to update the packages for it [12:53] I'd write it....if I had a working LTSP server :( [12:53] probably after release, i'm not sure i have the time before [12:53] yeh sure np [12:53] cbx33, i'm working on 41088, relasx [12:53] oh, i looked at the new features in 4.2 and the local support is improved [12:53] :) [12:53] Sergi0, yep [12:53] ooooh.....sorry ogra not bugging...just extremely keen === Sergi0 needs 25h in a day [12:54] but i dont agree with the implementation at all, our local device support will be integrated differently === cbx33 would love to have about 40 hours a day [12:55] brb [12:55] (i.e. jim and scott reinvented the wheel with lbus for notifications, while we already have dbus running in every ubuntu, the clen implementation is to use the existing parts and enhance them) [12:55] but that takes a bit longer [12:55] nice [12:55] I'm impressed ogra [12:55] its on my list for edgy eft :) [12:56] w00t [12:56] :) [12:56] the ltspfs and ltspfsd are nivce programs we'll already have in universe for dapper, just integrating them is up to the user [12:56] (thats where we'll need documentation) [12:57] I'll help out there if I can === B4zzA [n=chevron_@l2-202-89-181-19.arach.net.au] has joined #edubuntu [12:58] that would be very good, since thats the area i cant put much time in [12:58] ogra: well, I definitely will work on that area then === jeang [n=jeang@dsl-145-20-191.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === jeang [n=jeang@dsl-145-20-191.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #edubuntu [] [01:01] ogra: did you look at ltsp localapps? *brrr* :) [01:01] spacey, not yet [01:01] ogra: please don't implement that in their way :P [01:02] it makes you feel secure with windows [01:02] you mean with an ssh server on every client ? [01:03] cbx33, seems our apt maintainer thinks you dont have gpg on your iso ... [01:03] (41088) [01:03] oh? [01:04] is there a new comment? [01:04] http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42?topic=LocalApps :) [01:04] cbx33, nope i'm discussing it with him [01:04] In your /etc/exports file, make sure you have an entry that looks like this: [01:04] ah [01:04] /home 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,root_squash,async) [01:04] ok, sounds good [01:04] :o [01:04] would that affect from the CD too [01:04] ie with no network connectivity? [01:04] *BRRR* [01:04] spacey, hah [01:05] thanks btw ogra [01:05] ogra: thats simply horrible [01:05] cbx33, the ltsp-client-builder *exclusively* uses the CD, no matter if networked or not [01:05] spacey, yep [01:05] ah right ok [01:06] but you are the only person which sees it until now [01:06] thats whats bugging me [01:06] I hope I'm not doing anyting stupid [01:07] i doubt that :) [01:08] do you think it's the start-stop-daemon package that's causing it? [01:09] nope [01:09] thats no package [01:09] oh.... [01:09] make_dummy_start_stop_daemon() { [01:09] cat > $ROOT/sbin/start-stop-daemon.dummy < #!/bin/sh [01:09] echo 1>&2 [01:09] echo 'Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing.' 1>&2 [01:09] well the pacakge that contains it? [01:09] exit 0 [01:09] EOF [01:09] ahh [01:09] there is no package :) [01:09] only that code snippet [01:09] i see [01:09] and this [01:10] remove_dummy_start_stop_daemon() { [01:10] rm $ROOT/sbin/start-stop-daemon [01:10] chroot $ROOT dpkg-divert --remove --local --rename /sbin/start-stop-daemon [01:10] } [01:10] (and some copying of the .dummy file) [01:10] its definately an apt error [01:11] right [01:12] I'm going to try installing it on my virtual machine now === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@mail.trinsite.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === B4zzA [n=chevron_@l2-202-89-181-19.arach.net.au] has joined #edubuntu [01:46] cbx33, can you try on console #2 in the installer if gpgv is installed an executable ? [01:46] i think thats our prob [01:48] s/an/and/ [02:12] ok [02:12] just trying now [02:13] ogra: does it install the ltsp chroot before the rest of the system? [02:13] console 3 is for ltsp install no? [02:17] w00t - just finished recording the first section for youth lug radio [02:17] ogra: we got to interview you edubuntu guys soon :p [02:17] heh :) [02:17] console 3 is the ltsp install, right [02:18] ok [02:18] well then this install is working fine on the vm machine [02:18] it's b0rked on 2 laptops [02:18] ones a dell latitude d600 [02:18] same iso ?# [02:18] the other is a toshiba [02:18] yes [02:18] both from the CD that I burnt [02:19] and I'm using that CD with the vmware machine [02:19] and you always had the gpgv error with apt ? [02:19] not an ISO the actual cd [02:19] yes on the two laptops [02:19] thats horribly strange [02:19] yes... [02:19] can you tell me whats in .disk/info ? [02:19] on which machine? [02:20] the one that's installing? [02:20] from the iso/CD [02:20] ok [02:20] hang on [02:20] its in the root dir of each CD/iso [02:21] Beta i386 (20060420) [02:21] hm, k [02:21] that ok? [02:22] what you were expectng? [02:22] Beta i386 (20060420) [02:22] :) [02:22] heh [02:23] what would be loaded differently? [02:23] pcmcia? [02:23] could that be b0rking something? [02:23] nope [02:24] swat I thought [02:24] but it seems to be laptop related [02:24] unless you have installed in on a laptop [02:24] i test on a laptop over here [02:24] (all arches) [02:24] hmmm [02:24] these aren't particularly old [02:24] (or rather on two laptops) [02:24] d600 - isn't that old [02:24] meine either [02:24] *mine [02:25] slip of the tongue eh? [02:25] :p [02:25] hmmm this is very strange [02:25] it's german [02:25] lucasvo: I know [02:25] I did study german at secondary school [02:25] ah [02:25] but have forgotten most of it unfortunately [02:25] cbx33: where are you from? [02:26] Was machst du nach der schule? [02:26] UK [02:26] u? [02:26] lucasvo, hi [02:27] Ich werde sehr wahrscheinlich studieren [02:27] CH [02:27] juliux: hi [02:27] heh [02:27] Ich mache meine Hausafgaben [02:27] cbx33, lucasvo there is a extra channel for german ;) [02:27] juliux: I don;t think I'm up for that yet [02:27] juliux, and ? [02:27] or...well...ever really [02:28] juliux, we even have french days in #ubuntu-motu from time to time :) === juliux only want so push the german channel [02:28] juk [02:28] french [02:28] ogra: it's gone through fine here on the VM - just configured xorg [02:28] great === lucasvo has to learn french, italian, german, english in school === juliux has learned, latin, russian and englisch at school [02:29] ogra: but not on those two laptops [02:30] can you run through an install on one of them and let it finish, so we have the complete logs ? [02:31] ogra: do you mean skip the ltsp step when it bombs out? [02:31] yep [02:31] it will drop you to the installer menu, just pick the next step after "build ltsp environment" [02:31] any particular settings for the remainder of the steps [02:31] nope [02:31] just jump over the failing step [02:32] ok, you'll have to let this VM ware machine finish [02:32] i want the installer logs of the base install that happens before [02:32] hmmm....I could suspend the VM take out the CD, then resume it later :p === xwind__ [n=nrv@58.69.49.206] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 hugs VMWare [02:32] i suspect the lappies cant read a package or something, that silently fails ... and makes gpgv bomb out [02:32] yes [02:33] me thinking that too [02:33] also my comment onn rthe bug was silly [02:33] indeed you need to do: chroot /target gpgv [02:33] to check if its working [02:33] hi people. [02:33] ok [02:34] running the install now [02:34] and i suspect the installers gpg is installed, but the one in /target is missing (by whatever install error that happens before) [02:34] hi xwind__ [02:34] ok [02:35] hello ogra. A bit smoother this time with Dapper 6.06. [02:35] :) [02:35] although, i am puzzled why the user/group administration menu disappeared after adding another user. [02:36] was that expected? [02:36] xwind__: filed a bug? [02:36] for that user oor for the user you added the other one with ? [02:36] new users are not in the admin group by default [02:36] my first acct i used to have access to it. [02:36] menu items that require this group are hidden from users that dont belong to it in dapper [02:37] my first acct is a sudoer so maybe i can fiddle something to have it appear again? [02:37] yes, a bug against gnome-system-tools would be a good start [02:37] so is this thing a bug? [02:38] might be [02:38] let the g-s-t maintainer check ;) [02:38] ok. [02:39] but, which group has access rights to the user admin menu? am thinking of just adding my username to it. === pygi [n=pygi@83.131.240.143] has joined #edubuntu [02:42] ogra: is s-c-p going to be in eft? [02:44] its already in dapper [02:45] if its in the default install in eft is a question of being finished ... [02:45] if someone works on it and its stable i'll happily include it ... [02:45] i doubt i'll have the time to work on it [02:46] lucasvo: please remind me what s-c-p is? [02:48] student-control-panel [02:48] o, nice [02:48] python? [02:49] yes [02:49] sudo apt-get install student-control-panel [02:49] here is the bazaar archive: [02:49] http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/bzr-archive/student-control-panel-0.1/ [02:49] in case someone wants to work on it === ogra will concentrate on http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/LTSPManager/ for eft [02:52] ogra: did ya get a chance to look at those changes yet? [02:53] ah, sorry, not yet [02:53] ogra: ok it's skipped the step and is now installing [02:53] np [02:54] does it normally do the select and install procedure....???? [02:54] it's taking ages :p [02:56] yep [03:01] do you get your people.ubuntu.com address when you become an ubuntu developer? just outta interest? [03:01] yep [03:01] oh..and is the ubuntu CC meeting organised yet? [03:01] (yep for paied developers fwiw) [03:08] so ogra how did you get your "paid" job :p [03:09] luck ? [03:09] heheh [03:09] very so..... [03:09] or because i'm so nice looking ... [03:09] I wish I could do something a little more worth while [03:09] oh..yes....you're so handsome ogra :p [03:09] lol === JaneW waits for the hot-tub session to start ;) === cbx33 runs a mile [03:10] no, honestly, i just helped as much as i could, got sponsoring for creating the hwdb-client and was hired at the conference [03:10] "i'm toooo younggg foooor that kind of thiiiiinng [03:10] ogra: which conf? [03:10] udud [03:10] udu [03:10] oic, I never knew that [03:10] thought you were around before then [03:10] for mataro i paied myself and learned to know everybody [03:11] ogra: was foged at a conf [03:11] forged [03:11] between mataro and udu i developed hwdb-client and the lockscreen patch [03:11] that was what got me involved ... [03:12] after that i started leading the MOTU until dholbach took over [03:12] its all about involvement ... and patiency [03:12] oh yeh...i wasn't looking for getting paid [03:14] sorry to insert, i just did adduser and i got "Only one or two names allowed." I already have 2 users. BUT, is this normal? Can somebody point me to an explanation why only 2 users are allowed? [03:14] huh ? [03:14] thats rather an error from the command ... [03:14] are you sure you used it right ? [03:14] sudo adduser [03:15] and what user do you ant to add ? [03:15] ops! [03:15] :) [03:15] :) [03:15] i just tested adduser ogra [03:15] and it worked! [03:16] ha ha ha [03:16] also i'm not sure it creates the home dir, chack that [03:16] it's afraid of u. [03:16] *check [03:17] it should [03:17]