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slow-motionn812:03
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Kamelknuffenhowdy12:04
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nico_re12:05
Kamelknuffenhow do i change charmap?12:05
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Kamelknuffeni cant seem to get the aa,ae and oe characters to work12:05
Kamelknuffenbut strangely enough i seem to have all other keys in the right place12:05
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tarik_hi to everyone12:06
tarik_can someone tell me if there is a translator like babylon for dapper?12:06
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tarik_one i can easy install with apt-get12:07
tarik_hey12:07
tarik_anyone there12:08
tarik_are there any translators i can use like babylon12:08
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Kamelknuffentarik_:  have you searched apt?12:09
tarik_babylon?12:10
tarik_no12:10
tarik_is there a source?12:10
tarik_i ll have a look12:10
Kamelknuffenthe package you are looking for is: wordtrans-kde12:10
Kamelknuffensudo apt-get install wordtrans-kde12:10
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tarik_can i use it on gnome too?12:11
tarik_thx12:11
Kamelknuffenwell, yeah if you have qt installed12:11
tarik_qt?12:11
tarik_was ist qt?12:11
Kamelknuffenlibqt is a plattform to build apps on12:12
Kamelknuffenalsmost like gtk with some differences12:12
Kamelknuffenand the package for that is libqt3-mt12:12
tarik_do i have just to install wordtrans-qt and then is it working or do i have to someting else12:13
Kamelknuffenapt should handle all the eventuall dependencies, so yes12:13
tarik_ok thx i will have a try12:14
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tarik_this eveniung i have to wirte 3 summarys about each half a side12:14
tarik_so i need this prog to translate me words form en to ger12:14
_JuDgEn_i like aspell, when running openoffice12:15
_JuDgEn_why dont you use that instead?12:15
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tarik_i'll try that one out too12:15
_JuDgEn_ok12:16
tarik_I need a function like clicking a word and then get the translation12:16
_JuDgEn_wonder why my swedish/finnish-specific keyboard characters stopped to work..12:16
_JuDgEn_it worked before ubuntu crashed on me12:16
syniei installed ubuntu on my old system. it has a nForce2 chipset. ubuntu detects it, and lspci lists the nforce-networkinterface and an other card, i plugged in. but there isn't any ethX o,O can some1 help me ? how can i activate the cards12:17
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Draevencan anyone tell me what seems to be the major malfunction between KDE and CUPS - I am having a heck of a time getting a printer configured and shared on my network12:25
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apricotis there a program similar to autocad?12:28
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bimberiapricot: there's qcad12:29
apricotthank you12:29
bimberiapricot: yw, hope it fills the need :)12:29
ObiWanKanabisDraeven ] > i resolved that problem this afternoon (sorry, bad english)12:29
Draevenis there a way to re-enable admin rights to cups thru a browser? I am so sick of the KDE printmanager telling me that there is no running cups server12:30
apricotwhat about wine and autocad?12:30
DraevenI have a few users that need access to the printers and this is just holding up productivity - I mean breezy is a great distro and all, but if I wanted to waste time like this I would have installed 2003 Server12:31
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ObiWanKanabisDraeven ] > you got to edit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf12:32
ObiWanKanabisdelete everything12:32
ObiWanKanabisand write this lines12:32
ObiWanKanabis<Location />12:33
ObiWanKanabisOrder Deny,Allow12:33
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ObiWanKanabisDeny From All12:33
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ObiWanKanabisDeny From 127.0.0.112:33
ObiWanKanabis</Location>12:33
ObiWanKanabis<Location /printers/>12:33
ObiWanKanabisOrder Deny,Allow12:33
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ObiWanKanabisDeny From All12:33
ObiWanKanabisDeny From All12:34
ObiWanKanabisAllow From 127.0.0.112:34
ObiWanKanabisAllow From 192.168.1.*12:34
DraevenObiWanKanabis: send that to me in a query so we're not flooding the channel or use pastebin12:34
ObiWanKanabisthe fu"" query does not work12:34
ObiWanKanabisafter that finish12:34
ObiWanKanabisthen restart cups and12:35
ObiWanKanabisfrom a browser go to localhost:63112:35
ObiWanKanabisnot working12:37
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_JuDgEn_i lost my swedish/finnish keyboard characters after a crash of kdetv how do i recover them?12:40
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_JuDgEn_damnit i cant get swedish keyb to function properly12:47
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SeantaterThat is not a good word to start out on in a forum with ops..12:48
SeantaterWhay have you tried?12:48
_JuDgEn_i have tried setting it to swedish in the kcontrol app12:50
_JuDgEn_it worked perfectly before kdetv took down the system about 15minutes ago12:51
ObiWanKanabisDraeven ] > ????12:51
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SeantaterHave you restarted?12:53
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apricotwhere is kmail shorcut in kubuntu?12:54
_JuDgEn_sure12:54
_JuDgEn_the entire system crashed12:54
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_JuDgEn_also my alt-gr key does not work anymore12:55
apricotwhere is kmail shortcut in kubuntu? How to make one?12:55
Seantatergr?12:55
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Seantaterapricot: drag it from the menu 0-- tada12:55
Seantaterapricot: drag it from the menu -- tada12:55
fjellrev1how do I install something with a .daa extension?12:55
localDoes anybody know if "sudo parted resize ..." physically wipes data or just reshapes partition boundaries?12:55
apricotwhich menu, i do not see it.12:56
Seantaterapricot: The K menu12:56
Seantaterlocal: I would backyup either way12:56
apricotno kmail shortcut in the kmenu.12:57
_JuDgEn_apricot: have you got it installed12:57
_JuDgEn_apricot: just make an shortcut on the desktop and use that12:57
apricotyes12:57
Seantaterapricot: end the session and start it again and it might appear12:57
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localSeantater: I am trying to recover my hda2, 3 and 4 after optimistically installing from the latest live dvd desktop icon. It went pear-shaped, but I didn't install over the whole disk content (so far as I know). But the MBR was screwed and I don't have a hand-written record of the partitions I had. I need to recover the data on the disk that now appears as unused diskspace.01:01
Seantaterlocal: I'm afraid you may have to shell out big bucks (in comparison to free) for that01:02
Seantaterlocal: I'm not aware of any Linux data recovery software..01:02
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localSeantater: I've been trawling for a free solution or advice without success. I don't get why it needs to be so complicated (=expensive). It's a bit surprising that data recovery is that hard.01:05
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cromoqtcurve01:06
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SeantaterI just think It's not usually that needed (rule #1 for every OS (but most well known in linux) is to backup everything all the time01:06
Seantater!info qtcurve01:06
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_JuDgEn_Seems that i dont have any keyboard-layouts according to kcontrol after my reboot01:08
_JuDgEn_how do i reinstall only the layouts?01:08
kev1n!sound01:08
ubotuwell, sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary01:08
localSeantater: You're right, and it was sloppy/naive to think Dapper would turn out to be as it was, hanging as it did. Still, maybe there's a simple BASH script waiting to be discovered (or written)... goodnight01:09
_JuDgEn_how do i reinstall the keymaps?01:10
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DeshHello everyone. I am running Kubuntu 5.10, after failing at getting fglrx drivers to work I reverted back to ati drivers. however, I can no longer "Lock Sessions." Also, Penguin Racer and another game, which used to load up, though they'd lag, don;t even load anymore.01:12
DeshWould reconfigure-xserver fix any of this?01:12
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HymnToLifeit can't hurt, I would do it if I were you01:13
DeshOk. Do you think anthing else could be causing this?01:14
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_JuDgEn_how do i reinstall the keymaps?01:15
mzinzIf three doubles are passed into a method, whats the shortest and fastest way to organize them from low-to-high?01:16
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mathiasbritohi everyone... one of you know a list with the fastests ubuntu mirrors?!01:32
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jeff__hey guys01:41
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tmdx120hello room01:41
jeff__does anybody know how to center the page on the working space in kword?01:41
tmdx120I have a q about vegastrike.01:41
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jeff__instead of it being to the far left01:42
jeff__tmdx120: whats vegastrike?01:42
tmdx120it is a 3d linux game.01:42
jeff__o01:42
jeff__so does anybody know how to view the page in the center of the workspace?01:43
jeff__?01:50
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wubrgamerhey guys....i am looking for some advice to net-installing xubuntu on a bunch of old mac laptops in my schools science lab, i'm  a pretty new user to linux01:58
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stodgeI'm trying to debug a program with gdb but I get:    ../sysdeps/i386/elf/start.S: No such file or directory.02:30
stodgeAny ideas what this means?02:30
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_andreashmz, here I am trying to install my wifi card, i find a good howto, and get ndiswrapper to work, but then acers ftp site is down :P02:55
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_andreasor at least i can't conneckt to it :P02:55
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FHXCould comeone please advise? I was trying to do a dual boot, so i wanted to startover new and install windows then add on linux, like a normal dual boot configuration would go. So I inserted the windows cd in, deleted my linux partition, and reformatted the HD. at 64% it got stuck, so I thought okay, I' ll try that again. This time I Selected " quick format" , so it formatted and then it went on to copying files. It kept getting stuck and co03:01
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unpersonCan anyone help me out with KRec?  I'm trying to record from my mic, but the "VU-meter" isn't showing any signal and (not surprisingly) the recordings are just silence.03:02
unpersonAfter messing with KMix I can hear the sound from the mic in my headphones.03:03
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unpersonBut nothing seems to be getting to KRec.03:04
unpersonIn the audio manager KRec::In is set to in_soundcard03:04
DeshI need to move some files, but I can;t since I'm not root..how can I do it w/o rebooting into recovery mode?03:04
unpersonDesh: You can gain root prividges using sudo.03:05
unpersonDesh: The easiest way to do this is in the Konsole.03:06
ablyssFhx, sounds like bad sectors.. tried checking the disk?03:06
DeshOk, see my problem is, I am trying to uninstall fglrx, but the diversion for a file is in the wrong place...03:06
DeshAnd it won;t uninstall.03:06
unpersonDesh: If you wanted to move file foo to director /home/desh/bar you could use the command "sudo mv foo /home/desh/bar"03:06
DeshHmm...03:07
unpersonSorry, you want to make a softlink point to a different place?03:08
unperson(maybe I don't understand what "diversion" means in this context")03:08
DeshOk, let me show you the error.03:08
DeshRemoving xorg-driver-fglrx ...03:09
Deshdpkg-divert: mismatch on divert-to03:09
Desh  when removing `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/share/fglrx/diversions/libGL.so.1.2 by xorg-driver-fglrx'03:09
Desh  found `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx'03:09
=== ablyss glad you're helping him unperson and not me :P
unpersonDesh: Hmm...sorry, I don't understand that error, so I don't think I can offer good advice.03:10
DeshAlright. :)03:10
DeshThanks anyways...03:10
unpersonDesh: My guess is that it started to remove a softlink and found it pointed somewhere other than what was expected.03:11
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DeshRight, and now I don;t know how to delete it.03:11
unpersonDesh: Then is said "uh,oh, I better not remove it."03:11
DeshRIght, that's what I think aswell.03:11
gifufirstable...sorry about my bad english...i installed with Wiki help mp3 support and now i installed xmms...xmms says:please check that: yuor sound card is configured properly etc etc....so what i can do?....i have said to xmms that uses alsa....i use sb live 5.1...03:12
unpersonDesh: Well, you can delete it with "sudo rm /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2", but I don't know that that's a good idea.03:12
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unpersonDesh: Because, like I said, I don't understand the problem.03:13
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unpersonDesh: In other words, try it at your own risk.  ;-)03:13
DeshHmm..when I look for the file...it doesn't exist..03:13
unpersonDesh: Well then I really don't have any idea what's up.03:15
unpersonHave you tried the forum?03:15
DeshNo.03:15
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pr1rhey all03:15
steveklhyhy03:16
steveklI still can't get yakuake's tab bar to not be transparent03:16
stevekldoes anyone possibly know what I am talking about03:16
r0xzin konqueror i can go backwards with alt+left, but under the international variant of the US keyboard layout this doesn't work. Can i enable this somehow?03:16
pr1ranyone have 2 monitors runnin off 1 video card???03:17
unpersonDesh: Well, if no one here can help you try ubuntuforums.org03:17
pr1ri have a 5200 geforce fx tryin to get 2 monitors runnin03:17
DeshHow can I run this: /usr/share/fglrx/ati-uninstall.sh03:17
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temifowlOk, heres the deal, how the hell do i use my sound card?03:18
steveklDesh: "sh /usr/share/fglrx/ati-uninstall.sh"03:19
steveklas root03:19
steveklor using sudo03:19
DeshOk, thanks. :)03:19
stevekltemifowl: Well you need to be more specific!03:19
temifowlheh03:19
temifowlyeah well thats all i know03:19
unpersontemifowl: How have you tried using it so far?03:19
temifowlwell03:20
temifowli tried plugging in my speakers and playing sound03:20
unpersonwith which program?03:20
temifowlthe sound?03:20
unpersonyes03:20
unpersonoops, baif.03:21
temifowlwell i tried online wmp sounds, flash sounds, clicking sounds, radio sounds03:21
unpersonSorry, I'm sure the other kind (and smarter) folks will help03:21
temifowllol?03:21
temifowltheres kinds of folk now?03:21
steveklWell03:23
stevekltemifowl: go into a console and type in 'alsactl'03:23
stevekloops03:23
steveklnot that03:23
stevekldamn what's the command03:23
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stevekloh yeah, do 'alsamixer'03:23
steveklDo you get a bunch of volume sliders?03:24
steveklor does it give you an error?03:24
temifowl?03:24
temifowlno i dont get sound03:24
DeshIs there a command to force uninstallation? Like, apt-get force-remove, or something03:25
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HobbseeDesh: sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename03:29
DeshWould that be safe? Even if I remove a package with a diversion error?03:30
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temifowlok, so i got everything i think i need to play sound, and i set the volume thingy to play in my speakers, but still nothings coming out03:37
CheeseBurgerMantemifowl: What is 'everything you need', and what are you using to play?03:38
temifowlwell i got the codecs for win3203:38
temifowlwhich apperently is used03:38
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temifowland im trying to play sound from google video03:38
CheeseBurgerMangoogle video uses flash, actually.03:39
temifowlhm03:39
temifowlok well03:39
CheeseBurgerManyou don't need win32 codecs -- I'd know, since I'm on AMD64 and can't use them. ;)03:39
temifowli just put sound to my mic and im getting sound03:39
temifowlwtf...03:39
temifowli put volume to Mic, and now i get sound03:39
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temifowlWTF!03:39
temifowlah03:40
temifowlits my Front!03:40
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temifowllol03:40
temifowljust you talking to me made it work03:40
CheeseBurgerManlol03:40
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gren-hi. i have a question. where are the package files located? :)03:50
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DeshI think they go to different places..03:51
DeshWhy?03:51
gren-just wondering.03:51
DeshYou can find the location for specific ones from the menu, if you edit it and see the location a specific menu choice leads to.03:51
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gren-cant i add packages too adept-manager? ive found no way03:52
gren-im new to this. :)03:52
Hobbseegren-: what, you mean the .deb files that are downloaded?03:53
gren-no, i want too install Synaptic too make the installing more easier03:54
gren-too be honest, i dont know what im talking about03:54
gren-im just trying to learn linux because im getting 100mbit in a while and im gonna setup a few game-servers03:55
tarmathgren-: you should start by reading the ubuntu/kubuntu starter guide03:56
tarmathgren-: i believe it would answer most, if not all of your questions03:56
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gren-doh, and im always the one whos saying too people i know: i will google before asking dumb questions ;)03:57
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fatejudger!ntfs03:59
ubotuwell, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions03:59
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fatejudgerdoes anyone know how to give permission to non-root users to browse mounted NTFS partitions?04:00
fatejudgerI tried assigning user level permission and it doesn't seem to do anything04:01
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me2winfatejudger: sudo mount /dev/bleh /media/bleh -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=022204:02
fenderman!repositories04:02
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource04:02
fatejudgerme2win: that's a one time deal04:02
fatejudgerme2win: and by the way, I hate you04:02
fatejudgerlol04:03
fenderman!backports04:03
ubotuI guess backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports04:03
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naliothfatejudger: you'll need to modify your fstab04:09
fatejudgernalioth: yeah, I got it working04:12
gren-whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?04:13
gren-:p04:13
CheeseBurgerManKubuntu has KDE, Ubuntu uses Gnome04:13
bleakedis it possible to use the helix engine in amarok on a kubuntu system?04:14
fatejudger!kdenetworkmanager04:15
ubotufatejudger: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:15
me2winlol04:15
fatejudgerdoes anyone know what package the new kde network manager is?04:15
me2win!networkmanager04:15
ubotunetworkmanager is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto04:15
fatejudgerdamn you04:15
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me2winlol04:16
fatejudgerI'm gonna put this on my laptop04:16
fatejudgerso cool :D04:16
me2winput what?04:16
fatejudgerkde network manager04:16
me2winoh'04:16
fatejudgerit switches between wired and wireless seamlessly04:16
fatejudgerit prefers wired04:16
fatejudgerand autoconnects and whatnot04:16
me2winnice04:16
fatejudgerjust what I need04:16
me2winits too bad i dont have a laptop, otherwise id use it04:17
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fatejudgerI thought there was a KDE frontend for it04:17
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me2wini thought so too04:17
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fatejudgerme2win: apparently there IS a KDE frontend04:20
fatejudgerme2win: I'm looking at it right now04:20
me2winfatejudger: good04:20
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gren-goodnight folks.04:28
DeshWhat kernel should I use, k7 or amd64, if I am using the 32bit Kubuntu with an amd62 proccessor..04:28
gren-62? :P04:29
Desh*64, typo04:29
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robotgeekDesh: 32 bit will work on a 64 bit chip, and i would recommend you use it (till you become more familiar with linux)04:29
DeshRight, so the k7 (Amd Athlon) kernel?04:30
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robotgeekDesh: yeah, it will pick one, i am guessing04:32
DeshAlright. :) Thanks.04:32
DeshAny clues why Lock Session and certain games like Penguin Racer would stop loading?04:33
DeshThey used to work, and now..they don't.04:33
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nfxhello04:34
DeshHi.04:34
nfxcan someone help me configure my logitech mx1000 to work with the thumb buttons?04:34
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DeshI would, but I'm a n00b.04:35
nfxokay great04:35
nfxwell most of the support on the forums are for a USB connection, but i've got mine connected to the internal bluetooth...04:35
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nfxand i can't seem to figure out the right protocal or device name to put on xorg.conf04:36
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nathanaelWhen I right-click on any Karamba theme, "customize theme" is grayed out...why?04:38
CheeseBurgerMannathanael: Because that particular theme doesn't have any options.04:38
nathanaelIt's Ubermon!04:38
nathanaelThe font color...04:39
nathanaelto white, for my dark bg04:39
CheeseBurgerManYou change that by manually editing the .theme file.04:39
CheeseBurgerManIf you downloaded it using superkaramba, it's in ~/.kde/share/apps/superkaramba04:40
nathanaelah04:40
nathanaelyou rock!04:40
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Nomad411Good evening all.. I don't understand the difference betoween korganizer and kontact?04:40
Nomad411they look pretty much like the same app04:41
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robotgeekNomad411: kontact uses korganizer04:41
httpdssNomad411: kontact includes korganizer+kmail+etc ...04:42
httpdssNomad411: its like an all in one app04:42
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Nomad411ahhhh.. makes sense now, thanks04:45
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Antonnhola04:46
CheeseBurgerManHello04:47
jeff__hey04:47
jeff__lol hey cheesie04:47
Antonnwould you like some ketchup?04:48
CheeseBurgerManNo. :P04:48
Antonn:P04:48
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ports-hrm04:49
Deshsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:50
DeshOopps.04:50
DeshHow do I check what video card driver I'm using?04:51
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CheeseBurgerManLook in /etc/X11/xorg.conf In section "Device" there's a line with 'driver'04:52
CheeseBurgerManit'll tell you which one. :)04:52
DeshHmm...I chose fglrx in reconfigure-xserver04:52
Deshsudo sed -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf   <--- this would switch all ati's with fglrx, no?04:52
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DeshHehe, ok, restart time...hope this works...04:53
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Mr_Grieves|UI'm having difficulties installing kubuntu04:57
Mr_Grieves|Uit's the x86_64 flavor of 5.10, and I can't get the xserver started04:57
Mr_Grieves|Uit's a fresh install04:58
noiesmoMr_Grieves|U, what video card do you have04:58
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Mr_Grieves|Uati radeon mobility x60004:59
CheeseBurgerManTry disabling hardware acceleration. I'll walk you through it if you don't know how.04:59
CheeseBurgerManIt worked for me. :)05:00
Mr_Grieves|UI'll need the help :)05:00
jeff__aw man im using a radeon mobility m6 too05:00
jeff__are you on an inspiron 4100?05:00
CheeseBurgerManjeff__: Well, if you know of a better way to get it working, spout the knowledge. :)05:00
Mr_Grieves|Uis it working ok for you, jeff__05:00
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jeff__no05:01
jeff__i havent been able to get my 3d accel or tvout to work since i switched to linux05:01
Mr_Grieves|Uwell, we're off to a good start :)05:01
noiesmoMr_Grieves|U, did you install xorg-driver-fglrx also maybe do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select ati or try fglrx05:01
Mr_Grieves|UI had trouble getting the ati drivers to work under Suse, too05:01
jeff__did you ever manage to get tvout?05:02
Mr_Grieves|Unot yet...lemme try05:02
CheeseBurgerManLet's just say that ATI drivers for Linux suck. :)05:02
jeff__they do05:02
noiesmohere here CheeseBurgerMan05:02
Mr_Grieves|UI'll drink to that05:02
jeff__and that its on a dell is even worse05:02
jeff__the dell guy actually got mad at me because im using linux05:02
noiesmolol05:02
CheeseBurgerMan:o05:03
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noiesmoMr_Grieves|U, this is how I installed ati drivers sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:04
jeff__what does sudo dpkg-reconfigure do?05:05
noiesmoMr_Grieves|U, check this http://pastebin.com/68032305:05
noiesmojeff__, it reconfigures the setting on the package05:05
noiesmojeff__, in the case of xorg it lets yu pick video drive res etc05:06
jeff__ok05:06
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CheeseBurgerManSo then 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup && sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx && sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) && sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ' should be fine05:07
Mr_Grieves|Uis fglrx included on the cd?05:07
noiesmoMr_Grieves|U, no05:07
CheeseBurgerMansince that will backup your xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup05:07
noiesmoCheeseBurgerMan, should do dude05:07
CheeseBurgerManYep, I'm running it. :)05:07
noiesmonice05:07
noiesmosweet05:07
Mr_Grieves|Ucause if not I'll have to go ahead and set up ndiswrapper...05:07
jeff__what are you helping him do noiesmo?05:07
noiesmoMr_Grieves|U, the drivers for ati are restricted and not inclued on cd05:08
CheeseBurgerManMr_Grieves|U: Heh, you're installation is sounding like mine. Install, disable hardware acceleration, setup ndiswrapper.05:08
noiesmojeff__, helping who do05:08
CheeseBurgerManyour*05:08
CheeseBurgerManjeff__: install ati drivers.05:08
Mr_Grieves|U:)05:08
jeff__noiesmo: so he gan get graphic accel?05:09
Mr_Grieves|UI love how you can't buy a notebook w\o windows and broadcom.....05:09
noiesmojeff__, if the fglrx drivers work for his card he will have 3d accel05:09
jeff__oh i know05:09
jeff__i dont think they do05:09
jeff__i looked at the list of supported cards05:09
CheeseBurgerManDo I want to use kernel framebuffer device interface?05:10
noiesmoCheeseBurgerMan, go defaults on that05:10
CheeseBurgerManOK05:10
noiesmoCheeseBurgerMan, i normall go defaults all the way except on the driver part select fglrx05:11
CheeseBurgerManhehe, OK.05:11
CheeseBurgerManThat's what I'm doing. :)05:12
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CheeseBurgerManOK, it's done.05:12
CheeseBurgerMansuppose I should restart the X server now.05:13
noiesmoCheeseBurgerMan, no resart X and hopefully it work05:13
noiesmobrb05:13
CheeseBurgerManHow do I just restart X?05:13
CheeseBurgerManOh, OK05:13
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CheeseBurgerManHeh, look at that.05:14
CheeseBurgerManIt automatically backed up my xorg.conf05:14
CheeseBurgerManHow nice of it. :)05:14
Mr_Grieves|Uhow do I install the kernel sources w\o an internet connection?05:15
CheeseBurgerManMr_Grieves|U: Get everything working without the hardware acceleration, then try the better drivers.05:15
CheeseBurgerManIt'll be easier.05:15
noiesmoCheeseBurgerMan, how d you go05:16
CheeseBurgerManI dunno yet, how do I just restart X?05:16
noiesmoK05:16
Mr_Grieves|Ui need the sources so I can get ndiswrapper, so I can get a connection, so I can get the drivers, so I get the drivers :)05:17
CheeseBurgerManMr_Grieves|U: You can get ndiswrapper setup without an internet connection. :)05:17
Mr_Grieves|Uactually, know that I'm thinking about it, I may already have the driver sources somewhere on my hdd from my suse install...05:17
CheeseBurgerManOK,  BRB, gonna try the drivers.05:18
Mr_Grieves|Uhow do I get ndiswrapper installed w\o the sources?05:23
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Mr_Grieves|Utime for bed...I'll be back later05:28
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CheeseBurgerManWell...that certainly didn't work. :)05:29
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mischkoWhere do I point Aspect to get the latest beta of kubuntu?05:38
mischkos/Aspect/Adept05:39
mischkoWhere do I point Adept to get the latest beta of kubuntu?05:42
mischkoI'm running from a CD install of 5.105:42
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xwolf-i got a little problem here... i have just reinstalled winxp and GRUB is not initializing anymore, since win has taken over the boot thingie... how can i fix it?05:44
CheeseBurgerMan!grub05:44
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting05:44
CheeseBurgerManTry the second link. :)05:44
xwolf-thanks :)05:44
jeff__SEX05:48
mischkoWhere do I point Adept to get the latest beta of kubuntu?05:49
jeff__dude05:49
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jeff__are you on breezY?05:49
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mischkojeff__: kubuntu 5.10 = breezy?05:51
jeff__yeah05:51
mischkoyup.05:51
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jeff__you have to change your sources.list05:51
mischkoright. what do I put in?05:51
jeff__change everything that says breezy to dapper05:51
mischkook05:52
jeff__then atp-get update05:52
jeff__then apt-get dist-upgrade05:52
mischkoThanks.05:52
jeff__np05:52
noiesmoCheeseBurgerMan, i'm back didnt it work05:56
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jeff__lol05:57
CheeseBurgerMannoiesmo: Nope, it didn't.05:58
jeff__noiesmo: what is your computers make and model?05:58
noiesmoamd xp2500 ati 9800pro but now back on nvidia as ati had a problem it worked but it was faulty and id get wierd lines from time to time worked good 90% but got annoying05:59
jeff__lol ok06:00
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JeffAMcGeeHowdy06:08
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sig-11Hi everyone. I'm using kubuntu 5.10 and trying to rebuild one of the tools provided by "shadow" (newgrp). ./configure results in: config.status: error: cannot find input file: debian/Makefile.in. Google didn't turn up anything at all. Is it a bug with the shadow source package? Does anyone have any ideas?06:14
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httpdsssig-11: newgrp is allready packaged inside the login package06:32
sig-11One of our coders has modified newgrp and needs to rebuild it. I'm here on his behalf...06:34
sig-11the source package appears to be missing debian/Makefile.in06:34
fatejudgerhow big of a flash drive would you need to install Kubuntu on it?06:35
me2winfatejudger: server version or with gui?06:37
fatejudgergui...06:37
me2winno more than 3 gbs06:38
fatejudgerlol06:38
me2winmaybe even less than 106:38
fatejudgeridiot06:38
fatejudgerI'm looking at a 1 GB flash drive06:38
fatejudgerfor 25 bucks06:38
fatejudgerI want to boot it at school06:39
me2wini know some people have ti down to like 500mb06:39
fatejudgerhow?06:39
me2winfatejudger: http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/11/10/taking_linux_on_the_road_with_ubuntu/06:39
fatejudgerold06:40
fatejudgerI heard something about dapper being easier to install on a flash drive06:40
me2winprobably the UbuntuUSB distro06:40
me2winnvm06:41
me2winthat requires 10gb06:41
fatejudgerI guess I could buy a 2GB flash drive06:42
fatejudgerbut that's so dumb06:42
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me2winfatejudger: seagate sells those 5gb ones for like 89 bucks06:42
fatejudgerall I really want is a solid IDE and my documents06:42
fatejudgerJEdit sucks though06:42
fatejudgerthe text is all funky06:42
me2winyou could use Damn Small06:43
fatejudgerI'd rather use Xubuntu06:43
fatejudgerbut that's really dumb06:43
fatejudgersince the macs at my school are really nice06:43
fatejudgerthey could easily run KDE06:43
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me2winyou could use Damn Small Linux Not06:44
fatejudgerI'd rather use Xubuntu than that06:46
fatejudgerwhat I really want is to be able to use Kate06:46
fatejudgerI guess I COULD use another editor like Gedit06:46
fatejudgerbut Gnome is evil...06:46
fatejudgerI'm wondering how useful all of this will be06:47
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fatejudgerit's cool, but the comp sci building is on the complete opposite side of campus from where I work and park06:47
fatejudgersig-11: lol06:47
fatejudgerkate kicks ass06:47
me2winfatejudger: then park closer...06:47
fatejudgerI can't06:47
fatejudgerour school has a parking problem06:48
me2winfatejudger: do what i did06:48
fatejudgerbecause it's run by a bunch of liberals06:48
me2winpark and take your bike to school06:48
me2winso you can ride to class06:48
fatejudgerdude, I don't have to06:48
fatejudgerI park close enough that that is silly to do06:48
me2winthen why are you complaining06:48
me2winjust walk06:48
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fatejudgerbecause, I don't want to walk 10 minutes just to use a computer06:48
me2winthen use your laptop06:48
fatejudgerI'd rather just use my laptop06:48
me2winand if its ten minutes06:49
me2winthen take the bike06:49
fatejudgerI just get pissed off with the lack of internet06:49
fatejudgerI'm wondering how pissed off they'd get at me for booting Linux on those computers06:49
fatejudgereven if I'm only emulating it06:49
me2winlol06:49
me2winyou can boot inside windows with DSL i believe06:49
fatejudgerwell Macs have great emulation06:50
fatejudgerso I should be able to emulate Linux easily06:50
me2winyeh06:50
fatejudgerI wonder if you can boot a Linux live cd that way06:50
me2winnot sure06:51
fatejudgeryeah, it looks like you can06:52
me2winusing?06:54
fatejudgerlive cds06:54
fatejudgeror usb flash06:54
fatejudgermac is really good with the emulation06:54
fatejudgerI guess I could just have netbeans for Windows and Mac installed on it06:56
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fatejudgerand have my documents on there06:56
me2winuse eclipse06:56
fatejudgernetbeans06:56
me2winruns off an EXE06:56
fatejudgernetbeans is better, it has Matisse06:56
fatejudgeryou're not cool enough for Matisse06:56
fatejudgerthat's why you use Eclipse06:56
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me2winoh lord06:57
fatejudgerjedit has a cross platform version06:58
fatejudgerbut the text is ugly06:58
fatejudgerand it too does not have matisse06:58
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fatejudgernothing will be as cool as booting linux either06:58
me2winthere is a difference between cool and unneccesary06:59
fatejudgerwell with Linux I'll have KOffice06:59
fatejudgermeh, you're right06:59
me2winim sure your school as word07:00
fatejudgerI'll just buy a tiny one and deal with it07:00
fatejudgeris it any cheaper to buy two USB keys on newegg rather than one?07:00
fatejudgeras far as shipping goes07:00
fatejudgerwhat FS do those USB drives usually use?07:02
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me2winfatejudger: whatever FS you ant07:04
me2winbut they come with FAT07:04
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me2winfatejudger: buy that 5gb seagate, its awesome, my brother has one07:06
fatejudgerthat's got to be huge07:06
fatejudgerand expensive07:06
me2winfatejudger: nah, fits int he palm of your hand, and is 90 bucks07:06
fatejudgerway more than the 25 dollar 1 gig flash drive07:06
me2winfatejudger: yeah well, for you, being cheap is more important than being smart ;)07:07
fatejudgerwtf07:07
fatejudgerhaving a small drive is smart07:07
me2winlike i said07:07
me2winbeing cheap is more important to you than being smart07:08
jeff__what are we arguing about now?07:08
me2winlol07:08
me2winfatejudger: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682214813207:08
fatejudgeryou couldn't put that in your pocket07:09
me2winits 3.1", of yourse you can07:09
fatejudgeryou'd look like an idiot, even more so than you currently do07:09
me2winif you can stick your hand in your pocket07:09
me2winyou can put that in your pocket07:09
me2winits tiny07:10
me2winits like 2 usb drives side by side07:10
fatejudgerwhy not have 1 usb drive?07:10
fatejudgerI'm still not convinced I even need all of this07:10
me2winbecause the capacity on this one is larger07:10
fatejudgerI'm never going to use it but for transferring documents07:11
fatejudgerI'll end up using my laptop instead07:11
fatejudgerI'll just get a tiny one for an IDE and document transfer07:11
fatejudgerit'll be good enough07:11
me2wini suppose07:12
me2winif you have a laptop, then you can use the laptop07:12
me2wini guess its more practical if you dont have a laptop07:12
fatejudgeryeah07:12
fatejudgermy laptop is anything but practical07:13
fatejudgerit weighs more than your fat ass07:13
me2winlol07:13
me2wini weigh less than you07:14
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fatejudgerhow much?07:14
me2win13007:14
fatejudgersame here07:14
me2winbah07:14
fatejudgerand I'm 6'07:14
fatejudgerwhat are you?07:14
me2win5'707:14
fatejudger4'10"07:14
fatejudgermidget07:14
me2winbut alot of my weight is muscle07:14
fatejudgerand that fat clogging your  brain07:15
jeff__lol07:15
fatejudgerI hate KPilot07:15
fatejudgerit never works07:15
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fatejudgerwhy can't I just hotsync my palm pilot without worries?07:16
crimsunwin 2307:16
crimsunerr, sorry07:16
me2winfatejudger: because you touch yourself at night07:16
fatejudgerit detects my palm pilot fine07:16
fatejudgerbut it just won't hotsync07:16
fatejudgerI hate it07:16
me2winfatejudger: im sure it hates you too, you know you are a very hateable person07:17
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fatejudgerfinally07:24
fatejudgerI changed the speed07:24
fatejudgerand it works now07:24
fatejudgeravantgo works in linux too07:24
fatejudgerI wish that the document thing worked too07:24
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kkathmanyo fatejudger!   Good job :)07:28
fatejudgerkkathman: thanks!07:29
fatejudgerlol07:29
me2winkkathman: nice job leaving offtopic XD07:31
kkathmanXD ?07:31
me2winlike :D except XD07:31
kkathmanoh hehe07:31
me2winive never ever used that smiley before, dont know why I tried it now lol07:32
kkathmanI hadnt removed #k-o from my autosignin07:33
me2winah07:33
kkathmanI rebooted into dapper, and it was still there07:33
kkathmanI fixed it07:33
kkathmanme2win:  Hey I've been delving into Ajax :)07:34
me2winkkathman: nice. I haven't really found a reason to yet. Mostly because fatejudger always harasses me about learning more about it.07:35
kkathmanits an interesting approach - kinda like having .NET apps without the .NET overhead07:36
me2winyeh07:36
me2winI was going to make the login system for that poker website ajax07:36
kkathmanits not a tremendous stretch, because I know Javascript reasonably well07:37
me2winbut the turnaround time for it needed to be quick, so i didnt have time to learn/implement07:37
kkathmanwell, the key is really to know when you can use it, and when to use straightforward scripting07:37
kkathmanIm just scratching the surface now, have coded a couple of things07:38
me2wincool07:38
me2winwhere are you learning about it from?07:38
kkathmanthe asynchronous aspect of it can certainly make the web app appear to be more responsive and less clunky07:38
kkathmanI got this really excellent book called "Head Rush Ajax"07:38
kkathmanits excelent07:39
me2winnice07:39
kkathmanyou are writing your first stuff by the end of the 1st chapter...good presentation, easy to follow07:39
kkathmanIts an O'Reilly Book07:39
me2winnice07:40
kkathmanI have alot of respect for them07:40
me2winim adding it to my bn.com wishlist as we speak07:40
kkathmanyah thats where I got it07:40
kkathmanonly I was at the store :)07:40
me2winheh07:40
me2winI've always like the visual quickstart guides07:41
kkathmanIts a unique book...very visual... they use alot of different techniques to get you to learn07:41
kkathmanI thought it would just be - big woop...Javascript and XML07:42
kkathmanbut the overally techonological approach is very challenging and broad07:42
me2winheh07:42
me2wini bet07:42
me2winits only good if you implement it right07:42
kkathmanthey weave PHP alot into it, which is very good for me07:42
kkathmanyes exactly, and they DO spend some good time explaining WHEN to use it and when not to07:43
me2winnice07:43
kkathmanno disk with it, but the examples and sample code is all online through their website07:44
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me2winI'll most likely be buying it on my next paycheck07:44
me2wini have 6 books on my wishlist07:44
kkathmanI might use it only sparsely, but when I do, it will be a really nice improvement07:45
me2wincool07:45
kkathmanme2win:  have you ever gone back and taken a look at a client's site you programmed say 2 years ago07:45
kkathmanand then said "OMG I cant believe I did it that way!!!"07:45
me2winkkathman: lol yes, several times07:46
kkathmanthere's a good and bad to that...you feel good that you have progressed..but feel bad that the client paid you for such primitive code :)07:46
kkathmanI actually got called by an old client end of last week, wanting me to touch up her site07:47
kkathmanI looked at it and holy cow I hadnt used any CSS, and there were like <font> clauses everywhere07:47
me2winlol07:47
kkathmanI felt like  " Did I really used to do that!!"07:48
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superdumphello07:49
kkathmanso thats why I'll learn Ajax, so that in 2 years I can go back to the sites Ive just done and say 'Wow I cant believe ti did that!!"07:49
superdumpi have the kubuntu dapper live install cd07:49
me2wini look at my current website and think that same thing because i haven't had time to redo it07:49
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superdumpis it possible to run a text mode install from it?07:49
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kkathmansuperdump:  no, afraid not..but you can test things07:50
superdumpthe live installation gui closes with no error messages when it gets to the partition section07:50
superdumpbah07:50
superdumpi guess i'll have to burn another cd with the text mode installer on it then07:50
kkathmanbut it would "install"  except from the fact that if you get it to boot, chances are your equipment is fine07:50
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kkathmanLive CD's are good to have around anyway superdump :)07:50
kkathmanso dont throw it away07:51
superdumpi know07:51
superdumpit's just a pain... :)07:51
kkathmanwell, if you can boot and get online, etc with the LIveCD, then you'll likely not have anyproblems07:51
superdumpanother question, is it possible to prevent kubuntu booting into X07:52
kkathmanso its a good "test"07:52
superdumpkkathman: i'm using the livecd right now07:52
kkathmanexcellent!07:52
kkathmangood job..that should make you feel good :)07:52
superdumpbut i can't install because when it gets to the partitioning section of the graphical installer it crashes07:52
superdumpwhy should it make me feel good? i put in a cd and it booted07:52
superdumpi'd expect that07:53
kkathmansuperdump:  well, a Live CD goes through a full equipment checkout07:53
superdumpand i want to prevent kubuntu booting into X because for some reason my nvidia drivers don't like my PCI-E 7800GT07:53
kkathmanmany times if there are incompatibilities the LIve CD wont work and you'll know them ahead of time without a destructive install07:53
superdumpi switched from an AGP 6800GT (so yes, the chipset has changed but it seemed to cope with that)07:54
kkathmanahhh yeah.. Im not sure of the status of support of PCI-E07:54
kkathmanacross the board I mean07:54
superdumpi guess i could mount the partition and edit the xorg.conf07:54
kkathmanif you are comfy doing that...sure07:54
superdumpi am07:55
kkathmankewl07:55
superdumpso there's no key combo to stop X booting and just go straight to a console login?07:55
me2winthere is the runlevel07:55
me2winbut07:55
me2winsince its on a live CD, you can't really change it07:55
kkathmansuperdump:  hmm at boot add a 307:56
kkathmanoh maybe so..never tried with a LIve CD07:56
kkathmanI dont know if you get that option on the LIve CD07:56
me2winim sure you can07:57
me2wincuz its runlevel 3 that does cli07:57
kkathmanright07:57
kkathmangrub should let you07:58
kkathmanbut I've never done it07:58
kkathmani had to do that one time on my SUSE install, because KDE let out a bad initial kdeboot proggy07:58
me2wingrub isn't on the live CD07:58
kkathmanand had  to bypass a service07:59
kkathmanme2win: well whatever the bootloader is right07:59
kkathmansomething has to tell it to get the linux image07:59
kkathmanvmlinuz07:59
kkathmanoff the CD07:59
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superdumphmm08:01
superdumpdoes the xorg nv driver support 7800GTs?08:01
kkathmanthat I dont know08:02
me2winnot sure08:02
Tm_Tsuperdump: well, you should use "nvidia"08:02
kkathmanyah, if you can, use nvidia, not nv08:02
Tm_Tnv is really slow here :(08:02
superdumpTm_T: i know, but like i said, i upgraded my hardware yesterday and while it detected the chipset change ok, it didn't like the graphics card change08:03
superdumpand as it always boots straight into X, that's a problem08:03
superdumpbut i've told it to use the vesa driver for the moment until i sort out the nvidia binary drivers again08:03
kkathmanman I was finally able to get my nvidia driver loaded in SuSE and what a big difference!!08:03
superdumpthanks for your assistance08:04
Tm_Tyah, nv should be ok08:04
superdumpbye bye08:04
kkathmanI have a real old nvidia card08:04
kkathmannv is fine if you dont wanna play games etc.08:04
Tm_Tkkathman: hehe, let me guess, like night and day?08:04
kkathmanbut its also good cuz it offloads the CPU08:04
Tm_Tkkathman: here it's really slow in 2d even08:04
kkathmanyeah08:04
Tm_Tjust changing desktops took seconds08:05
kkathmanim getting 1350 on glxgears08:05
kkathmanand thats not bad considering I have a very old card08:05
kkathmanthats under SUSE tho...havent installed an nvidia under dapper08:05
fatejudgerwhat I don't understand is how SuSE manages to find 4 discs worth of bloatware to stick in their distro08:07
fatejudgerI mean seriously08:07
fatejudgerI didn't know there were that many programs out there08:07
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me2winfatejudger: seriously08:09
kkathmanfatejudger:  actually, its really not that at all08:09
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kkathmanthe disks are merely the contents of many basical programs that you can also get from the repositories. You dont have to have all 5 CDs08:10
kkathmanbut if, for some reason, you dont have an internet connection, you can install and get most applications up and running without one.08:10
kkathmanits no more bloatware, than programs in any repository08:11
fatejudgerkkathman: yeah, but I can do the same thing with a Kubuntu install08:11
fatejudgerkkathman: what programs do I need other than what comes by default?08:11
fatejudgerkkathman: other than Dappers awesomeness features like Kerry and KDE Network Manager08:11
kkathmanfatejudger:  I can install SUSE using a single CD also, the same as kubuntu.08:12
fatejudgerwill that give me an office suite?08:12
kkathmanbut for instance, I like kvirc for my IRC client, and thats not a normal thing08:12
kkathmanfatejudger: of course it will08:12
fatejudgerwhat's wrong with Konversation?08:12
fatejudgerKonversation is kool08:12
kkathmanfatejudger:  I personally dont like the tabbed environment...just a personal preference :)08:13
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kkathmankonversation is a good program tho :)08:13
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fatejudgerKDE apps and tabs are practically synonymous now08:13
kkathmanwell many prefer that environment, but Linux is all about preference :)08:13
fatejudgerabsolutely08:14
kkathmanand I like kvirc :)08:14
kkathmanbut other programs...KMyMoney for instance08:14
kkathmanthats not in a standard install08:14
me2wini use xchat cuz i have a cussing problem and it filters that for me08:14
kkathmanyou have to apt-get install that08:14
fatejudgerhow is that program btw?08:14
kkathmanthat would be a program that might be on the disk08:14
fatejudgerI have to use MS Money in Windows, but it'd be better not to have to08:15
kkathmanKMyMOney is very nice... I think its one of the few apps thats equal to its counterpart08:15
kkathmanfatejudger:  you should give it a try08:15
kkathmanvery full featured08:15
fatejudgerwhich is?08:15
kkathmanQuicken/MS Money08:16
fatejudgerI just hope I can import my existing financial info08:16
kkathmanthere are import functions...I know you can offload/upload Quicken files08:16
fatejudgermaybe MS Money can export to Quicken08:16
fatejudgerI doubt it08:16
kkathmanI'd imagine it can...just for market's sake :)08:17
kkathmanhaha08:17
kkathmanand vice versa probably08:17
fatejudgerhopefully08:17
kkathmanthere is some "universal" format08:17
kkathmanfor that financial stuff and Quicken offloads in it08:17
kkathmanI imagine MS Money does too08:17
fatejudgerit should at the very least import08:17
fatejudgerbut that doesn't help me :P08:18
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kkathmanits worth a simple download and an afternoon playing with it08:18
kkathmanits pretty intuitive..espc  if you use Quicken or MSMoney now08:18
fatejudgerhmm08:19
fatejudgerI'm surprised someone took the time to make that program08:19
kkathmanfatejudger:  I believe there is a good web page on KMyMoney with screenshots08:19
fatejudgerone of my favorite things about KDE is its extensive list of applications08:19
kkathmanprobably can Google it easily08:19
fatejudgerit just can't be surpassed08:19
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huehhh08:31
me2winiii08:31
fatejudgerweirdness, on my laptop I have 3 packages kept back08:32
fatejudgerthey've been like that for a couple of weeks now08:32
fatejudgerbut nothing like that on my desktop08:33
fatejudgerlibrdf0, python-mysqldb, and python2.4-mysqldb08:33
huemm08:33
hue:)08:33
hueway08:33
me2winfatejudger: i keep getting these wierd errors about ogg desktop or something like that08:34
fatejudgerI have those on my desktop08:34
fatejudgerbut not on my laptop08:34
fatejudgerlol08:34
me2winlol08:34
fatejudgerboth are broken in their own ways.... :(08:35
fatejudgerI guess I'll reinstall both this weekend08:35
fatejudgerwith the new beta08:35
me2wini have to buy a PCI USB card this weekend lol08:35
me2winand then deal with the problems that stem from that08:35
me2winwe all know you cant install new hardware without something going wrong08:35
fatejudgerlol08:36
fatejudgercheaper to buy that than a new mobo?08:36
fatejudgerpci usb = slow08:36
me2windefinately. 25 bucks for one of those08:36
fatejudger!networkmanager08:37
ubotuI guess networkmanager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto08:37
fatejudgerI think the Kubuntu people love to change the font every month just to keep people on their toes08:39
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me2winfatejudger: agreed.08:42
fatejudgeroh wow, this kde network manager thing is teh awesomeness08:46
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fatejudgerit trancends awesomeness08:48
fatejudgerinto a level of its own08:48
slow-motionbbl08:50
fatejudgerI never thought I'd see the day that network connections were easier in Linux than in Windows08:53
fatejudgerbut today, it has happened08:53
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_harmhi all, how do i get a performance grapgh on my desktop?09:34
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publichi09:34
me2win_harm: performance of what09:34
public   konnichiwa09:35
me2winhey public09:36
_harmme2win CPU Network such things, you know one of those cool desktop graphs09:36
publichello09:36
publichow are you?09:36
_harmwe are all good i hope09:36
me2win_harm: most common way is using superkaramba widgets09:37
me2winpublic: im doing good, how are you09:37
publiconaji dayo.....same09:37
_harmdomo?09:37
publicnihonjin?09:39
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publicme2win09:42
me2winpublic: yes?09:42
publicwhere are you from?09:47
me2winpublic: San Antonio, TX, USA09:48
publicI'm from Java09:51
publicIndonesia09:51
publicbut sorry09:51
publicI have to go09:51
publicsee you later09:51
publicbye09:51
Pyre Hasta luego, amigo.09:51
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Chameleon22is there a file like on RH based systems that executes everytime a machine boots?10:24
DenHi - What's the best mail client program for KDE - something that will manage multiple mail accounts?10:24
Chameleon22evolution is nice and will run on kde although its a gnome app, kmail is also very good10:26
Chameleon22thunderbird will run on anything really but i dont like it10:26
painesChameleon22: for dapper /etc/rc.local10:26
painesDen: kmail can handle multiple accounts10:27
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Chameleon22paines, on breeze mate10:27
painesChameleon22: I think  breezy has /etc/initi.d/boot.local. not sure10:27
Denpaines: Any idea why kmail isn't installed with the default kubuntu (dapper is whaqt I'm running)?10:27
painesDen: it is installed by default. pretty sure10:28
Chameleon22paines, doesnt look like it, doesnt matter will make my own10:28
Chameleon22paines, just link it into rc2.d10:28
Chameleon22hrmm10:28
Denpaines: It's not installed in my system - Is that a bug? Shoud someone be notified, so that it is installed by default?10:29
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Chameleon22Den, look for kontact10:29
painesDen: what did you use for install dapper. update from breezy, flightX or beta cd's ?10:30
Chameleon22kmail is part of it, just in the menu its under kontact , you can launch it from console and add icon to menu your self10:30
DenChameleon22: I see contact. & am starting it now10:30
Chameleon22ok10:30
DenainesI installed Dapper iso, IIRC10:31
paineswell. that's confusing. cause kmail ist kde's default mail client. and so it must be installed with kubuntu.10:31
Denpaines: I installed Dapper iso, IIRC10:31
Chameleon22paines, it is10:31
Chameleon22my parents know how to use kubuntu but not windows10:31
Chameleon22damn proud of the old folks10:31
Chameleon22lol10:31
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vgehow do i make a shortcut for myself in kubuntu? i mean a systemwide command. there must be a easier way than to edit .bash_profile?10:40
Hobbsee!symlink10:42
ubotuwell, symlink is ln -s /path/to/file/or/dir /path/to/link10:42
Hobbseevge: create a symlink10:42
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tiggy|lappyI've got a problem10:53
tiggy|lappywhen I start up, kdm runs as usual and I type in my name and password.  Then, the screen goes terminal black with a blinking cursor in the corner10:55
tiggy|lappythen, kdm starts again10:56
tiggy|lappyit's like x is suddenly crashing as soon as I log in10:56
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tiggy|lappyI just tried making a new user and trying to log in, and it does the same thing10:57
tiggy|lappyfailsafe works10:57
tiggy|lappywhat could be my problem?10:58
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noaXess_kubuntutiggy|lappy: hm.. what graphic driver you use?11:12
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tiggy|lappyuhhh11:12
tiggy|lappyit's onboard.  I didn't install one11:13
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noaXess_kubuntutiggy|lappy: hm.. you are on a notebook?11:14
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tiggy|lappyyes, an acer travelmate tablet pc11:14
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tiggy|lappyit was working before11:14
tiggy|lappyand I have the same problem with a newly created user11:14
noaXess_kubuntutiggy|lappy: think there is a ati inside..11:14
noaXess_kubuntutiggy|lappy: you get no X right?11:14
tiggy|lappyI get X11:14
tiggy|lappyit starts kdm, I can log in failsafe and it works11:15
tiggy|lappybut just recently when I try and log in regularly with any user it dies11:15
noaXess_kubuntutiggy|lappy: you get the kubunt login scrren?11:15
tiggy|lappyyes11:15
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tiggy|lappyas soon as I log in, X goes byebye11:16
tiggy|lappywhere are the logs for something like that?11:16
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noaXess_kubuntutiggy|lappy: /var/log/Xorg.0.log11:17
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Dr3as check /var/log/Xorg.0.log11:17
Dr3asheh, u beat me11:17
noaXess_kubuntuDr3as: yea :)11:17
tiggy|lappyoh I bet this is related to my tablet11:17
tiggy|lappydoes kdm also start evdev?11:17
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DeadS0ulyou can check for that in /etc/X11/Xsession.d11:20
DeadS0ulI think11:20
vge<Hobbsee> vge: create a symlink <-- sry im little late, but how i create a symlink that works from every folder?11:22
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vgeic11:23
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tiggy|lappyugh, kdm crashes when I try and log into gnome as well.  I'm going to restart, brb11:25
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tiggy|lappyokay, it's totally a problem with kdm.  I just switched to gdm at it works11:40
tiggy|lappyfor some reason kdm is crashing whenever I try to log in with any user to any desktop environment11:40
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DeadS0ulcheck out teh kdm log in /var/log/kdm yet?11:48
DeadS0uls/kdm/kdm.log11:49
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gogohi,everyone11:53
tiggy|lappygeez, it's setting up my tablet really badly11:56
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tiggy|lappystuff like pressure minimum: 64, maximum: 63.  Maybe that's why kdm is crashing11:56
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tweeksalut tt le monde12:17
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nico8481hi12:20
Hobbseehi nico848112:21
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twosouls82in what way does "Kubuntu 6.06 LTS Beta Released" defer from "Dapper Flight 6"?12:40
twosouls82is someone using the Beta, and does it work properly?12:41
Hobbseetwosouls82: a few updates.  if you keep upgrading from dapper flight 6, you'll get to the beta, then past that, as there have been more updates12:41
twosouls82Hobbsee: do you use the Beta already?12:42
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Hobbseetwosouls82: i have used dapper since flight 1, so yeah12:42
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Hobbseetwosouls82: do you have flight 6 installed already?12:42
twosouls82Hobbsee: I was distro hopping, so no, I currently only have a working ArchLinux installation12:43
Hobbseeah ok12:43
Hobbseetwosouls82: each of the flights, and the beta, are snapshots of an always-updating release...12:44
twosouls82and Flight 6 gave me errors12:44
Hobbseeah great12:44
mendredis neone here using initng with dapper?12:44
Hobbseemendred: i dont, have you tried it?12:44
mendredyeah its working fine12:44
mendredonly one funny thing12:44
mendredknetworkmanager12:44
mendredshows status as connecting all the time12:44
mendredthough my network is working12:45
Hobbseethat's weird12:45
Hobbseetry running it thru a console, see what it says...12:45
Hobbseethen it shows the debug output...12:45
mendredhmmmm k...12:45
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mendredhmm got thrown back to the console after a couple of messages12:46
mendredis there any arg i need to pass?12:46
mendredneways i have a feeling this has to do with the changes i had to make to net.i to get network working12:47
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mendredotherwise np..boots up in 36 sec shuts down in 10 :)12:47
apricothow to run programs on startup*12:47
apricot?12:47
apricotanybody alive here?12:48
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mendredhey apricot12:50
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apricothello, how to run programs on startup?12:51
mendredu can put ur command in ~/.kde/Autostart12:51
apricottnx.12:51
mendreddepends actually what prog is it?12:51
mendredcause if it is a system service12:52
mendredu need to enable it in system settings..12:52
apricotit is a pon-dsl provider12:55
mendredoh12:55
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mendredthen u can enable it12:55
mendredin system setting12:55
mendredif i remember right12:55
mendredone sec12:55
mendredthere should be something called ppp in  services in system settings12:56
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mendredin runlevel 212:58
mendredenable yes on start at boot section12:58
mendredthat should take care of it12:58
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apricotis this a support chanel?01:00
mendredyup01:01
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apricotwhy so little questions?01:01
apricoteverybody uses gnome?01:02
JunThat's a question.01:02
mendredheh its rather silent here today :)01:02
mendredmaybe because kde requires little support ? :))01:02
apricoti still didn't found how to run dsl on startup01:02
mendredk01:02
mendredopen system settings01:02
mendredclick system services01:03
mendredclick on the runlevel combo box01:03
mendredselect runlevel 201:03
apricotdo not have system services01:03
mendredscroll down the list01:03
mendredis there a section called system administration?01:03
apricotyes01:04
mendredthere is no entry called system services there?01:04
apricotok, found that01:04
mendredpls to be clicking that01:04
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apricoti am not in admin mode01:04
mendrednp click on the admin mode button01:05
mendredand enter ur password01:05
apricotwhere in services, i cannot01:05
apricoteverything is grey01:05
mendredummm there is an administrator mode button01:06
mendreddown to the right01:06
apricotah01:06
apricotppp is enabled at startup.01:07
mendredwait01:07
mendredclick on the runlevel combo01:07
mendredand select mode 201:07
apricotyes01:08
mendredppp is enabled?01:08
apricotyes01:09
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mendredthats wierd01:09
mendredoh well.. in that case01:10
mendredopen a text editor01:10
mendredkedit01:10
mendredtype the command there01:10
apricotok01:11
apricotand01:11
mendredand save it in ~/.kde/Autostart01:11
mendredgive it any name say netcon01:11
mendredthen goto a terminal01:11
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mendredenter the ~/.kde/Autostart folder01:12
mendredvia konqueror01:12
mendredand press F401:12
mendredthat should drop u into a konsole01:12
apricotand01:12
mendredin there type chmod 744 <urfilename>01:12
mendred<urfilename> being the name u saved it under01:13
Hobbseemendred: i agree with you...01:13
mendredHobbsee: ????????????01:13
apricotok01:13
Hobbseeon why kde's so quiet...01:13
mendredoh :)01:13
apricotthat's it?01:14
mendredbtw Hobbsee do u need to set exec permissions to files saved in Autostart folder?01:14
mendredyeah thats it01:14
Hobbseei didnt think so...01:14
Hobbseei thought an ordinary symlink wors fine01:14
Hobbsee*works01:14
apricothow to see hidden files and folders in konqueror?01:14
Hobbseeapricot: view01:14
apricotok01:15
Hobbseeshow hidden files01:15
mendredHobbsee: any better way to do the pon dsl-provider thing on startup?01:15
mendredcause i suddenly realised it will run the thing even if he restarts X01:15
Hobbseehmmm....maybe stick it in the stuff where the machine boots up - in init.d or something.  iv'e got no idea how to do that01:16
mendredhmm01:16
apricotwhat is equal to synaptic in kde?01:16
mendredin kubuntu its adept01:16
apricotok01:16
apricoti do not see kmail icon in kmenu.01:17
apricotand i made one, and puted it on panel but the default icon want change.01:18
apricoton the desktop i see icon and on the panel is default icon01:18
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mendredhmmm apricot in the kmenu >office>kontact01:19
mendredthats a shell for running kmail knode etc..01:19
apricotkontact=kmail?01:20
mendredkontact=kmail+other things01:20
apricotstupid question01:20
mendrednah not really01:20
mendredbtw apricot01:20
mendredwhen u connect to ur dsl provider01:21
mendreddo u have to do a poff01:21
mendredfirst01:21
mendredand then do a pon dsl-provider?01:21
apricotno01:21
mendredhmmm k..01:21
mendredwell did u use pppoeconf to setup ur dsl thingy?01:22
mendredcause that has an option to start at bootup01:22
apricotyes01:22
apricotit starts in gnome01:22
mendredstrange01:24
mendredbecause that ppp service is for switching on ur dsl01:24
mendredand it should work irrespective01:25
mendredof kde /gnome01:25
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apricothow to import a .txt adressbook in kontact?01:28
mendredclick on Contacts in Kontact's sidebar01:31
mendredand File>import01:31
mendredpun not intended01:31
mendredwots the .txt addressbook ?01:32
mendredexported from outlook or something?01:32
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mendredCSV?01:32
apricoti menaged that01:32
twosouls82yep, I would asume01:32
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puckmanexit01:34
mendredhokays need to reboot to check something in initng..01:36
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twosouls82I have a working installation of Dapper, fresh. I want to install kdevelop, but I can't find it using aptitude01:39
OdyXkdevelop301:39
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OdyXtwosouls82: and add universe & multiverse01:39
twosouls82OdyX: that would be the reason, I asume01:40
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ahmuck_jri am having problems with adept on dapper beta01:41
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Hobbseeahmuck_jr: what problems?01:42
ahmuck_jrwhen i try to start it it suggests that i do apt-setup or apt-get update01:42
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ahmuck_jrit tells me the apt database could not be opened01:43
Hobbseeahmuck_jr: well, did you try doing either of those?01:43
Hobbseeeek01:43
Hobbseemornfall: you around?01:43
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ahmuck_jryes, sudo apt-setup gives me an error and sudo apt-get update works but i still get the same dialoge box when trying to start adept01:43
ahmuck_jrall i really want to do is do an apt-get install ethereal01:44
twosouls82OdyX: thanks, I seem have everything I need now01:44
ahmuck_jrhowever i get a reply that package is not found01:44
OdyXno worry twosouls8201:44
twosouls82seem to*01:44
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Hobbsee!info ethereal dapper01:46
ubotuethereal: (network traffic analyzer), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.10.13-1.1ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 505 kB, Installed size: 1360 kB01:46
Hobbseeahmuck_jr: got universe enabled?01:46
ahmuck_jrnot sure.  not even sure what universe is.  this is my first install of kubunu01:47
Hobbsee!+repos01:47
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource01:47
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ahmuck_jr:-( can't start adept01:49
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mendredahmuck_jr: what error does sudo apt-setup give?01:50
Hobbseeahmuck_jr: do a kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list and paste all of what's in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 into it, removing what's currently in there.  then sudo apt-get update01:50
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ahmuck_jrmendred "command not found"01:51
mhterresmorning01:51
Hobbseehi mhterres01:51
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twosouls82how to get mplayer on my sys? I have enabled alll repo's, except for the backports, but I still can't find it in aptitude01:53
mendredhmmm on debian apt-setup is usually in base-config01:54
mendredneways..i think hobbsee's way is easier01:54
HymnToLifetwosouls82> normally you should, mplayer is in multiverse01:54
twosouls82HymnToLife: could it be missing on the Dutch mirror?01:55
HymnToLifetwosouls82> seems the package is on the security server, weird01:58
HymnToLifehttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmultiverse%2Fm%2Fmplayer%2Fmplayer-586_1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9.1_i386.deb&md5sum=d5bb95941ad8f5b425d5dc65bb411d7c&arch=i386&type=security01:58
twosouls82odd01:59
twosouls82thanx01:59
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Mr_Grieves|Uhow do I tell a ethernet card to use dhcp from the command line in ubuntu?02:05
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ahmuck_jr:~$ kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list02:06
ahmuck_jrX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16802:06
ahmuck_jr  Major opcode:  14502:06
ahmuck_jr  Minor opcode:  302:06
ahmuck_jr  Resource id:  0x002:06
ahmuck_jrFailed to open device02:06
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ahmuck_jri'm good02:09
ahmuck_jrto go now i think02:09
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Mr_Grieves|Unvm - got it - dhclient02:11
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ahmuck_jrfor the most part, i like kubuntu so far.  "it just works".02:14
theineahmuck_jr: have you tried "sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list"?02:15
ahmuck_jri need to connect to kubuntu via vnc from windows xp ... so i need to setup a vnc server on kubuntu ?02:16
theineahmuck_jr: yes02:16
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twosouls82everything is working on my sys, except for amarok, it doesn't produce any sound.. I just installed Dapper btw02:17
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twosouls82xine doesn't seem to work, I also discovered that KMplayer doesn't work02:18
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twosouls82what could be the reason?02:18
kkathmantwosouls82:  do you get sound with other things?  like on boot?02:20
twosouls82kkathman: sound does work fine, I even heard you using my name02:22
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theinetwosouls82: that might be the pc speaker02:22
kkathmantwosouls82:  ok, well, how about kaffeine?02:22
twosouls82theine: that's my own (handmade) sound I heard :D02:23
theinetwosouls82: did sound work with previous versions of ubuntu?02:23
kkathmantwosouls82:  you do have amarok-xine installed right?02:24
twosouls82theine: yes, it did (but that was months ago, same sys though)02:24
twosouls82kkathman: yep I have02:24
kkathmani.e.  do a dpkg - i |  grep amarok-xine   just to make sure :)02:24
kkathmanok02:24
theinetwosouls82: and you're sure that all mixer channels are unmuted?02:24
twosouls82kaffeine doen't work with xine either02:24
kkathmanhmm02:24
theinekkathman: that's dpkg -l02:25
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kkathmanyah - sorry I just noticed that :)02:25
kkathmantoo used to typing the other .. plus..not awake yet ;)02:25
theinetwosouls82: launch alsamixer in a terminal and see (you can exit with ESC)02:25
kkathmantbh I havent even checked my own amarok :)02:25
theinekkathman: no worries :)02:26
twosouls82theine: Esc worked fine02:27
twosouls82and I have amarok-xine installed02:27
twosouls82xine just doesn't work02:27
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twosouls82it streams/tunes in, but no sound02:28
theinein which applications do you actually *get* sound02:28
theine?02:28
twosouls82the kde sound system produces sound, and so all the kde apps supporting sound themes02:29
twosouls82so do*02:30
theinetwosouls82: hmmm, no idea then02:30
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twosouls82:'(02:30
twosouls82i wanna have music02:30
theinetwosouls82: what about amarok-gstreamer?02:30
kkathmantwosouls82:  I can verify that I have the same issue02:31
twosouls82kkathman: you do :)02:31
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twosouls82theine: I love the quality of xine02:31
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theinetwosouls82: I guess it's time for a bug report then...02:33
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twosouls82damn, I don't like that02:33
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kkathmaninteresting - I cant play audio, but video is fine :)02:33
twosouls82first I want it verified by someone02:33
twosouls82kkathman: lol02:34
twosouls82are kkathman and I the only one using Dapper out here?02:34
koshI am using dapper also02:35
twosouls82kosh: does xine work with you?02:35
kkathmantwosouls82:  kaffeine wont play the file either02:35
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twosouls82kkathman: that's my conclusion as well02:36
koshtwosouls82: just a sec02:36
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koshxine is working flawlessly02:37
twosouls82:s02:37
koshI just used xine directly to play an mov file, I used kaffeine/xine to play a divx file and amarok/xine to play an ogg file02:37
koshno issues with any of them02:37
twosouls82kosh: and streaming media?02:38
koshno idea on that02:38
koshI don't have any streaming media and I am not even sure where to get any without doing a fair bit of looking02:38
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twosouls82xine works here too, only the streaming media doesn't seem to work...02:39
twosouls82kkathman: could you verify that again?02:40
kkathmantwosouls82:  i have no audio at all02:41
kkathmanthrough players that is02:41
koshI wonder if your issue is something else02:41
koshie something has the sound card locked02:41
koshwhat audo card do you have?02:41
kkathmannow, Im trying to play an mp302:41
twosouls82I have sound, only no streaming media02:42
kkathmanthe wiki says you have to install a bunch of stuff thats gstreamer-based02:42
kkathmanbut Ive done that and it still doesnt play..in fact amarok doesnt let me replace the xine engine02:42
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theinetwosouls82: what streaming media are you trying to play, maybe I can reproduce your result02:43
twosouls82theine: rtsp://streams.omroep.nl/tv/nos/journaal/bb.laatste.rm02:43
twosouls82it's Dutch ;)02:43
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kkathmantwosouls82:  are you able to play mp3s ?02:44
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twosouls82could it be that I don't have any codecs installed, or doesn't xine use them?02:44
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twosouls82kkathman: I need to rip first02:44
r0xzDoes anyone know when there's muc support for xmmp in kopete?02:44
twosouls82:P02:44
kkathmanahh ok02:44
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kkathmanyou probably will need w32codecs02:45
theinetwosouls82: works for me with kaffeine02:45
kkathmanI have those installed tho...video is fine02:45
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kkathmanbut not through totem02:45
theinetwosouls82: using the xine engine02:46
kkathmanHobbsee:  welcome - can you help us with some sound probs ?02:46
twosouls82I looked for w32codecs using aptitude, but I can't find them02:46
Hobbseekkathman: possibly...02:46
kkathmantwosouls82:  check the wiki... you need another repo02:46
kkathmanHobbsee:  several of us cant seem to get audio through amarok02:46
twosouls82kkathman: damn, just like the 'old-Suse-days'02:47
Hobbseekkathman: which engine?02:47
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kkathmanbut sound works... even my video works02:47
kkathmanxine02:47
theinetwosouls82: or get it directly from ftp.nerim.net and install via dpkg -i02:47
theinetwosouls82: w32codecs is extremly non-free...02:47
kkathmanHobbsee:  I have xine in amarok, but I did install all the gstreamer ,....ugly  stuff as indicated in the wiki02:47
theinetwosouls82: as in speech that is...02:48
kkathmanbut amarok doesnt seem to see the gstreamer02:48
twosouls82theine: I know, bu other distros behav better on this one02:48
twosouls82behave*02:48
theinetwosouls82: they have a different policy regarding non-free software then02:48
koshI have not had any problems here02:48
koshactually pretty much all my sound problems vanished in linux where I first started getting emu10k1 cards and above02:49
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Hobbseeyou really want crimsun, if he's around02:49
twosouls82theine: I may be dumb, but I can't find the package on that server (there are only Debian packages)02:49
kkathmanah ha02:49
kkathmangot it02:49
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kkathmantwosouls82:  go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=mp302:50
kkathmaninstall both things02:50
kkathmanthen it works in amarok02:50
twosouls82kkathman: (k) ;)02:50
kkathmanI installed the "other non-free format" stuff for dapper and it works now02:51
twosouls82kkathman: I will do so too02:51
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theinetwosouls82: this particular debian package (w32codecs) is totally fine02:55
theinetwosouls82: ... to use in Ubuntu02:55
theinetwosouls82: get it here, ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs02:55
twosouls82theine: I am installing all extra's, such as libxine-codecsextra now02:59
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twosouls82it worked!!!!!!!! xine operates again03:00
twosouls82I used http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15766403:00
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twosouls82and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=mp3, Other Non-Free Formats03:00
twosouls82theine and kkathman: thanx03:01
twosouls82kkathman: do you need help?03:01
twosouls82with xine? I got it working perfectly here03:02
kkathmantwosouls82:  mine worked once I loaded those gstreamer thngs03:02
kkathmanyes thats what I passed on to you a bit ago :)03:02
twosouls82kkathman: xine is much better, in my opinion03:03
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kkathmanI didnt change the xine engine03:03
kkathmanbut apparently there is something it needs03:03
kkathmanthat isnt loaded default03:03
twosouls82kkathman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=mp3, Other Non-Free Formats03:03
kkathmanyes - thats the link I passed to you03:03
kkathmanhehe03:04
twosouls82you will need all the multiverse and universe repo's03:04
twosouls82repos*03:04
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twosouls82:P03:04
kkathmantwosouls82:  if you look above, thats the link I sent you :)03:04
kkathmanhehe03:04
twosouls82kkathman: I know, but you mentioned the section above Other Non-Free Formats03:04
kkathmanI didnt try it with streaming media tho03:05
twosouls82it works now here, with that section's command03:05
kkathmantwosouls82:  [07:51:16]  <kkathman> I installed the "other non-free format" stuff for dapper and it works now03:05
twosouls82:P03:05
twosouls82I missed that03:06
kkathmanhehe03:06
twosouls82sorry03:06
kkathmannot a prob03:06
kkathmanits working :)03:06
twosouls82cool, thanks again03:06
kkathmaninteresting when you install SUSE, there is one package for audio and it all gets automatically installed03:07
kkathmanso its slightly different here03:07
kkathmanthe default configuration doesnt quite work...dont know that it might be a licensing thing03:07
twosouls82kkathman: true, but the 'not giving a working xine away' is the same here03:07
kkathmanyeah odd that03:08
twosouls82kkathman: it is03:08
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twosouls82w32codecs is illegal03:08
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twosouls82on a non MS sys, it is03:08
twosouls82my dapper work now :D03:09
DeadS0ulheh03:09
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gurumeditationerWould I be right in assuming no checkinstall created .debs will get accepted into the k/ubuntu repositories?03:15
kkathmangurumeditationer:  true03:15
gurumeditationer'k.  What about one time additions also say like I've made a deb for the newest aircrack, if I make the deb properly will it only be accepted if I make some sort maintenance commitment03:17
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kkathmanbrb rebooting03:22
twosouls82:)03:22
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smooshhow can i see the rules of iptables?03:44
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_smooshhow can i see the rules of iptables?03:45
zmo_smoosh: iptables --list03:46
_smooshzmo: thanks03:46
zmo_smoosh: yw, check out man iptables03:46
_smooshzmo: but iptables don't save the rules on file?03:47
zmo_smoosh: no it doesn't03:48
_smooshzmo: wit iptables --list, i can see only the realtime monitor of iptables...03:48
_smooshzmo: ...and not the rules that i've entered...03:48
zmo_smoosh: where did you enter your rules?03:49
_smooshzmo: from console...03:49
Tonio_little question,03:49
Tonio_did someone already scanned using kooka without sane ?03:50
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Tonio_I need to know if sane is "strongly suggested" or "absolutly required"03:50
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koshI doubt that scanning works without sane03:51
koshso probably absolutely required03:51
Tonio_kosh: then sane should be installed by default03:51
Tonio_okay, I note that for tomorrow's kubuntu meeting :)03:51
Tonio_kosh: thanks03:51
zmo_smoosh: you should see them. what table did you edit?03:52
_smooshzmo: nat table...03:52
zmo_smoosh: for example iptables -t nat --list shows your nat table03:52
koshTonio_: it already depends on sane, if you have kooka installed then sane should already be installed at least enough for what kooka needs03:53
koshTonio_: kooka depends on libkscan1 and it depends on libsane03:53
Tonio_kosh: not out of the box since sane is in universe03:53
koshthen kooka should not be installable03:54
Tonio_kosh: true but well....03:54
koshsince it certainly looks like it absolutely depends on sane at the package level03:54
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Tonio_kosh: sane_1.0.14-1_i386.deb is a frontend to the lib ?03:55
Tonio_this package is in universe03:55
Tonio_but maybe only libsane is required for kooka, I don't know03:55
korvenWhy does my x11 keyboard layout got wiped off when computer crashed, and how do i reinstall it03:55
koshyeah that package should just be a frontend03:56
korvenit works in cli03:56
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Tonio_kosh: ok then, thanks for the info03:58
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_JuDgEn_how do i reinstall the keyboard layouts?03:58
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Tonio__JuDgEn_: reinstall of reconfigure ?03:58
_JuDgEn_reinstall03:58
Tonio__JuDgEn_: reinstall xserver-xorg03:59
_JuDgEn_Tonio_ i have lost them all when computer crashed03:59
_JuDgEn_allready done that03:59
_JuDgEn_didnt help03:59
Tonio_so they should be installed03:59
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Tonio_then I would suggest a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:59
_JuDgEn_done that too03:59
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Tonio_hum......... very strange03:59
_JuDgEn_it works fine in cli though03:59
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Tonio__JuDgEn_: so the problem is in kde only ?04:00
_JuDgEn_tried upgrading to dapper, but that didnt help either04:00
_JuDgEn_Tonio_ yes04:00
Tonio_tried to look in systemsettings, accebility section ?04:00
Tonio_then choose keyboard layout04:00
Tonio_?04:00
_JuDgEn_yes, there are no keyb layouts available for selection04:00
Tonio_hurg....... _JuDgEn_breezy or dapper ?04:01
_JuDgEn_Tonio_ had breezy, now running dapper04:01
_JuDgEn_did dist-upgrade04:01
_smooshwhen i write "sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward", i've got a permission denied error message... how can i fix this?04:02
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Tonio_locate "/etc/X11/xkb/"04:02
Tonio_are the files there ?04:02
Tonio__JuDgEn_: ho, did you try to create another user and login with it ?04:02
Tonio_can be a kde profile issue then04:02
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Tonio_I sometimes had to recreate profiles when upgrading to dapper04:03
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berkesellow. afternoon folks.04:03
berkesafter some hunting (months ago) I found some working .debs for kmplayer. However, that version has a bug.....04:04
zmo_smoosh: run the command from a root shell: sudo -s04:04
berkesthe playlist os b0rken. evertime when I load more then one file into kmplayer it plays nothing.04:04
berkesdoes anyone know up-to-date binaries for kmplayer.04:04
berkesbinaries for kmplayer that run on *breezy*?04:05
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_smooshzmo: great, it work! thanks :)04:05
zmo_smoosh: ...or you can edit /etc/network/options and make ip forwarding permanent04:06
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_smooshzmo: oh, ok... thanks again :)04:07
_JuDgEn_Tonio_ ill try that, thanks04:07
Tonio__JuDgEn_: I hope that helps :)04:08
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Olimoin04:09
mfabhello all04:09
OliHaving problem to get up mysql server 4.1, problem is no stuff in anylogs mysql start script or just mysqld_safe just start and instantly stopping again - where should Ilook at?04:10
mfabanyone there who successfully installed via espresso without partititioning problems?04:10
mfabi would like to install kubuntu, but do not dare to use the installer because i read about some bugs with it...04:12
OdyXmfab: use text installer instead04:12
mfabi tried, but it wont work on my laptop... all debian based installers didn't work04:13
Olinoone any idea why my fresh apt-get'ed mysqld wont start - but I dont find any interessting messages in syslo04:13
Oli+g04:13
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mfabhmm anyone got an idea when they bring a final version of dapper?04:15
Olisummer  or so...04:15
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Hobbseemfab: june04:15
mfabok thanks, where do you get the dates?04:16
Hobbseeer...04:16
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Hobbseewiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule?04:16
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mfabhmm thanks alot... couldn't find it when i searched for about half an hour ;)04:17
judgenTonio_ how do i reinstall the profiles then?04:18
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judgeni have loads of iles in xkb04:18
judgenfiles*04:18
Tonio_judgen: remove it...04:18
Tonio_I mean back it up and restart kde04:18
judgenall of them, or the entire folder04:18
Tonio_judgen: does it work with a new account ?04:18
judgennope04:19
Tonio_I would suggest mv /home/foo /home/foo.bak04:19
judgenok04:19
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Tonio_and if that works then copy back the files you need04:19
judgenfoo? dont got that folder04:20
Tonio_judgen: maybe just mv /home/foo/.kde /home/foo/.kde.bak is enought04:20
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Tonio_judgen: foo = bla = average joe = username :)04:20
judgenhehe04:20
Tonio_judgen: simply try with .kde folder first04:21
Tonio_no need to remove the full profile04:21
judgentried both, now i get a swedish keyboard but with not all keys working04:22
judgenlike the characters for aa,ae,oe and alt+gr04:23
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judgenhow do i change keymaps when i have none?04:25
judgenwhere is the x11 keymaps stored?04:25
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judgenTonio_ where are the x11 keymaps stored?04:30
Phleagorhi04:30
Phleagoris there a list of available packages for kubuntu?04:30
Phleagorlike the one on the debian page04:30
HobbseePhleagor: packages.ubuntu.com04:30
Phleagorthx04:30
Tonio_judgen: I must say I don't really know, since I never had any issue with it04:30
Tonio_let me check04:31
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Tonio_judgen: I assume it is not stored in the profile04:32
Tonio_kde should read xkb files04:32
Tonio_in /usr/share04:32
judgencd /usr/share04:33
judgenls04:33
judgenoops04:33
judgenhehe04:33
Tonio_that's why I don't understand why you don't see them04:33
Tonio_to me that's because your profile is corrupted, and kde reads the bad directory or something04:33
Tonio_that why you first should adduser test04:33
Tonio_log with this one, and compare if that works or not04:33
Tonio_did you do it ?04:33
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Phleagorhmm...some packages cannot be found with the standard sources list04:34
Phleagoris there something i have to add to it?04:35
Tonio_Phleagor: yes you have to activate universe04:35
judgenyes04:35
Phleagorhow?04:35
Tonio_Phleagor: wiki04:35
Phleagork04:35
Tonio_search a bit, it is written everywhere on the net ;)04:35
Tonio_and I'm getting tired explaining this 3 times a day for 8 month :)04:35
judgenPhleagor just remove the # infrong of all the deb lines in the default ubuntu sources.list04:36
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judgenTonio_ the same error is still there with the new user04:37
chowsapalwondering if anyone can help -- my usb drive seems to unmount after ahile04:37
Tonio_judgen: argh......04:37
judgenfourk keys that does not work04:38
Tonio_judgen: did you try a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-standard ubuntu-minimal kubuntu-desktop04:38
Tonio_you may miss a package ?04:38
judgenTonio_ it worked yesterday04:38
Tonio_I must say I'm a bit lost....... I never got any issue concerning keymaps04:38
Tonio_judgen: hum.........04:38
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judgenthen kdetv crashed an after that i have had no alt+gr key and no aa,ae, or oe keys04:39
Tonio_did you upgrade a few minutes ago ,04:39
Tonio_?04:39
judgenyes04:39
Tonio_amazing......04:39
Tonio_I must say I can't find without direct acces to the computer.....04:40
Tonio_look xorg logs for reading files error04:40
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Tonio_sounds weired, really04:40
judgenwhere shoule i look for them?04:40
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judgenTonio_  where would this logs be located?04:42
Tonio_xorg logs ?04:43
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judgenyes04:43
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judgenTonio_ yes04:44
Tonio_judgen: /var/log/Xorg.0.log04:45
DeadS0ulman I don't get all this stuff in imwheel's website04:46
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judgenTonio_ WW couldnt load xkb keymap falling back to pre-xkb keymaps04:55
Tonio_judgen: in xorg logs ?04:56
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wcc_hi04:58
judgenTonio_  yes04:58
wcc_how do i execute display config in root in kubuntu ?04:58
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uroskonqueror won't embed realplayer ("player not installed") although firefox and epiphany work, on about:plugins it seems to be there - any ideas what could be wrong?05:00
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DeadS0uluros:does the plugin show up when you scan for it in konq's plugin section?05:03
urosdeadsoul: nphelix.so is there05:04
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urosdeadsoul: sorry - not only nphelix, under mozplugger there are some other "real" things05:05
judgenTonio_ i am not really in a mood for another reinstall, takes bloody ages on a slow internet connection05:06
Tonio_judgen: yes, I can understand........05:06
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Tonio_you should search the net a bit now you know what the error is, I must say I don't personnaly know the solution05:06
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judgenTonio_ now i get a different error in the logs too "cant find wacom"05:07
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judgenTonio_ how do i reinstall only deforma?05:12
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Tonio_judgen: sudo apt-get install defoma ;)05:12
Tm_Tjudgen: sudo apt-get install --reinstall defoma05:13
judgenTonio_ "package is allready latest version"05:13
judgenhehe05:13
_Rosen_NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETSPLIIIIIIIIIIT!05:13
Tm_T--reinstall is impoertant05:13
_Rosen_clear05:13
Tonio_sudo dpkg --purge && sudo apt-get install then05:13
Tonio_:)05:13
Tm_TTonio_: noooo05:13
_Rosen_sudo apt-get install x11vnc05:13
Tm_TTonio_: man apt-get05:13
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Phleagorand how can i activate multiverse? there is nothing to comment out in the sources.list05:14
Tm_T!multiverse05:15
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource05:15
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mhterresj #ldap05:16
mhterresoops05:16
Tonio_Tm_T: yes I know, but that's an horrible way to do I never managed to stop ;)05:16
Tm_TTonio_: =)05:16
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Tonio_Tm_T: I know --reinstall, but well......05:16
Tm_Twell?05:16
Tonio_Tm_T: we all have stupid ways to do things ;)05:16
Tm_Ttrue =)05:17
Tonio_for example I don't seem to be able to stop cat for less ;)05:17
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judgenstill no luck =(05:20
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judgencan i reinstall all previosly installed packages some way?05:21
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DeadS0uljudgen: what's wrong?05:27
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sonicAnyone know a shortcut for switching between desktops?05:29
judgenDeadS0ul i lost all my keymaps when kdetv crashed, and noi cant get alt+gr aa,ae or oe keys to work in kde05:29
judgenthey all work in cli though05:30
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_mathiassonic, it is ctrl + tab05:30
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BroxtorI'm trying to compile an opensync plugin on Dapper. Configure tells me I need the X includes. Which packages do I need to install to get those?05:30
BroxtorI already have x11-dev05:31
visik7xlibs-dev05:31
sonic_mathias: Thanks, do you know how I can drag an app from one to the other?05:31
visik7probably05:31
urostryed everything my limited knowledge permits: could somebody who surfs with konqueror try and tell me if he gets an embedded real player on site: http://www.rtvslo.si/, link Avdio/Video on top panel (pop up window)05:31
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_mathiassonic, use the task bar and click right on the application05:32
Broxtorvisik7: That did the trick! Thanks a heap.05:32
judgenDeadS0ul got any ideas?05:32
_mathiassonic: and then in the sub menu you can choose the "arbeitsflche" (sorry, i dont know the english word05:32
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sonicAha, got it :-)05:33
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sonicThanks!05:33
_mathiasno problem05:33
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DeadS0ulsorry I missed what you said earlier, you want to resintall all your pakcages?05:33
DeadS0ulor a certain number of packages?05:34
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sonicActually, one more thing. Wen I was using gnome, I used to get automatic updates every time I logged in. I don't get them now that I'm using kde. Why?05:34
judgenDeadS0ul all of them, so it might get fixed05:35
DeadS0ulsonic: do you have adept?05:35
_mathiasmmmh, i never used gnome. which type of update do you mean? the apt-repository?05:35
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DeadS0ulfix what exactly? unistalling, reinstalling is never really a good idea05:36
ahmuck_jrin kubuntu, is there a a network configurator05:36
ahmuck_jr?05:36
sonicDeadS0ul: no I don't use adepy05:36
DeadS0ulahmuck_jr: kontrol/system settings -> Network Setttings05:37
sonic_mathias: I used to get application updates when I logged on05:37
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DeadS0uljudgen: adept will usually tell you if you need to update packages05:37
DeadS0uljudgen: was that with synaptic?05:37
_mathiassonic: usually i do it manually by typing apt-get update and apt-get upgrade as root05:37
DeadS0ulyeah or apt-get update && apt-get upgrade05:38
DeadS0ulor you can put it in your crontab05:38
_mathiasbut you can also use synaptic05:38
sonicok cheers guys :-)05:38
sonicI like the apt get :-)05:38
robotgeekadept on dapper is awesome :P05:38
jpatrickrobotgeek: :)05:38
judgenwell it seems that i will have to reinstall the entire system anyways. DAMNIT!!05:39
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DeadS0ulbbs05:40
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inc|freakyhi all. where can i change the options for grub? i want to change the artwork05:47
inc|freakyof it05:47
xwolf-i have kaffeine-mozilla installed, but i still can't play streaming video from firefox... i try to install mozilla-mplayer but it asks to install firefox altogether, and i already have it installed from binary download05:48
xwolf-what do i install to have streaming working properly?05:48
robotgeekxwolf-: if you want to install it from repos, it will install the repository version05:49
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xwolf-yes.05:50
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DeadS0ulany of you know how to use imwheel?05:53
xwolf-robotgeek isnt there another way?05:54
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robotgeekxwolf-: not sure, sorry05:55
francolq_hello. i want to resize the root filesystem of my ubuntu. a good way to do this? parted-doc says i should make a Parted Boot Disk from ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/parted/bootdisk but the link is dead!05:55
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_thenightriderhey05:56
_thenightriderhow can i disable spellcheck?05:56
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Pupeno_Having some VOB files, can I make a DVD and watch it in an standalone system or may I watch it with Xine or another player on my computer ?05:58
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robotgeekPupeno_: i think vob files can be played by vlc or something05:59
ubuntuhey, i'm getting a kernel panic - not syncing: I/O error reading memory image. what shall i do to fix that?06:00
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atidemhi folks06:06
ubuntu_Hi alone06:06
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ubuntu_i am on beta06:07
ubuntu_i would like to connect my network06:07
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atidemsomeone know if there is a logo_ansi_art made for kubuntu?06:07
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ubuntu_but the connection crash in admin mode ?06:07
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topylitell me, kubuntu users: when you change the icon theme in kcontrol, does it affect the amarok icons?06:09
jpatricktopyli: i don't think so06:10
topylii use gnome, and when i choose the gperfection icon set in kcontrol, nothing happens06:10
topylijpatrick: oh ok06:10
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topyliso is there another way? this looks very bad: http://personal.inet.fi/koti/jsiltala/juha/Screenshot.png06:11
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urosmoved one step closer to solving realplayer not embedding in konqueror. in about:plugins i get MozPlugger 1.7.1 Configuration file:  Not found!, Helper binary:  Not found!, Controller binary:  Not found!, while in firefox Configuration file:/etc/mozpluggerrc, Helper binary:mozplugger-helper, Controller binary:mozplugger-controller. can anyone help follow this lead?06:21
robotgeekuros: qhat does konq say?06:22
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urosrobotgeek: konq does the three not founds06:23
robotgeekuros: not sure, havent installed them before. sorry06:23
urosrobotgeek:thanks anyway06:24
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cristobalcarneroplease, i have a problem with dns!!06:30
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mhterreswhat problem ?06:31
cristobalcarneroi use dhcp and all go well, but some moments the dns disappear. i do ping to ips but no to www.google.es, for example06:31
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mhterresit's not a problem with your DNS ?06:32
mhterrestry a different DNS server06:32
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DeadS0ulany of you got imwheel working?06:32
cristobalcarneroin windows i have no problem06:32
mhterresmaybe some dhcp server configuration06:33
cristobalcarnerothe dns don't work in some moments06:33
_Rosen_hello can anyoone help me? sometimes the computer shuts the network connection by itself06:33
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TheNightRider``_Rosen_ are you from bulgaria??06:34
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_Rosen_TheNightRider``, no Sweden why?06:35
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ahmuck_jri am having trouble enabling my wireless device in kubuntu drapper beta06:36
qualuswhy do my videos hang in firefox after only about 1/8th of a second playback ?06:36
qualusanyone else have that ?06:36
qualus(In KDE that is)06:36
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TheNightRider``_Rosen_ just asking, rosen is a very common name here in bulgaria. =)06:41
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_Rosen_TheChronoTrigger, oo okey here its made from my lastname06:42
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davixwhy dont i get amarok 1.4b for dapper?06:50
ahmuck_jris there something i can check to see why my wireless conection will not enable?06:50
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_Rosen_davix why do you use amorak?06:51
davixwhat do you have to offer?06:52
v3ctoramarok is great06:52
davix_Rosen_?06:52
_Rosen_xmms?06:52
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davixomg06:53
davixstfu.06:53
NoUse_Rosen_ you're kidding right06:53
v3ctorlol06:53
NoUsedavix http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4beta3.php06:53
NoUsedavix add that repo to get amarok beta06:53
_Rosen_acctually not, i just dont like amorak06:53
davixthanks nouse06:53
jpatrick_Rosen_: why not?06:54
_Rosen_when i first started kubuntu it just kept screwing up but xmms worked just fine plus ive used xmms in other distros to so im used to it, what advantage does amorak have? (serious question not sarcastic)06:55
NoUse_Rosen_ xmms is a player while Amarok is a music manager06:57
_Rosen_aha okej, i didnt realize that06:57
NoUseAmarok will organize, rank, keep cover art, submit to last.fm06:57
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NoUsetalks to iPods06:58
_Rosen_okej, mabye thats sometging for me after all06:58
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v3ctorgive you lyrics and band info06:58
_Rosen_okay07:00
twosouls82what does "configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check" mean :s07:00
twosouls82ah, config.log says I don't have cc1plus installed07:02
NoUsetwosouls82 install build-essential07:02
twosouls82how do I get cc1plus? which package provides it?07:02
twosouls82NoUse: I hope it is OfUse ;)07:02
twosouls82thnx07:03
twosouls82NoUse: why didn't all that get installed when I installed KDevelop?07:03
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thoreauputic!b-e07:04
uboturumour has it, b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo aptitude install build-essential.07:04
thoreauputictwosouls82: have you installed build-essential ?07:05
twosouls82thoreauputic: I have now07:05
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thoreauputicah sorry I didn't see NoUse 's message07:06
twosouls82thoreauputic: np, thnx07:06
thoreauputic:)07:06
twosouls82:)07:06
twosouls82nice to see people be so helpfull ;)07:07
puckmananyone here ever play with ktts?07:07
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DeadS0ulyee haw, I got imwheel configured07:27
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syniehey guys07:34
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syniei tried to get the fglrz module running. i need dri. i got a radeon 9700 pro. but if i start X, the whole computer freezes. the only thing i see is a blue screen and the mouse. but nothing works anymore07:35
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NoUsesynie how did you install the ATI driver?07:37
synieapt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx and then aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf07:38
NoUsesynie check out the wiki page on the driver https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI07:39
syniehey, strange ... now it works ... after some reboots o.O07:39
NoUsewell thats good07:40
synieyeah, but i think, if i'll do some reboots, there will be the same problem ...07:40
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twosouls82where is that (ugly) KMenu side image located in Dapper?07:44
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v3ctortry /usr/share/icons/default.kde07:47
waylandbillis there a way to make a konsole window partially transparent?07:47
DeadS0ultwosouls82: just use krfb07:47
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DeadS0ulnayway I'm off07:47
DeadS0ulg'nite07:47
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twosouls82DeadS0ul: tried it, doesn't work here07:47
twosouls82DeadS0ul: good night07:47
DeadS0ulah07:47
DeadS0ul=\07:47
v3ctor  /usr/share/icons/default.kde/*/apps/kmenu.png07:47
NoUsewaylandbill yeah its in the configure menu, I don't know the exact menu07:48
twosouls82v3ctor: thnx07:48
v3ctornp07:48
twosouls82v3ctor: that's the menu button07:48
v3ctor * = size of icons you use07:48
twosouls82I need the side imgae07:48
v3ctoroh07:48
v3ctorsorry07:48
twosouls82:P07:48
twosouls82np07:49
v3ctori just turn mine off07:49
twosouls82:P07:49
twosouls82I have my own I want to use07:49
twosouls82with my name07:49
twosouls82:D07:49
v3ctoropen configure k-panel07:49
v3ctorright click on the checkbox to turn it on of off07:50
v3ctortells you the path07:50
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v3ctor /usr/share/apps/kicker/pics07:51
v3ctorthere you go07:51
twosouls82v3ctor: ;) you tha man, for now07:51
v3ctorlol07:51
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v3ctordon't worry...i will let you down befoe the end of the day07:52
twosouls82gheghe07:52
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lilminimey06hi, i have this problem getting removed amarok completely from my kubuntu system, anyone knows how to do it?08:04
Skrotapt-get remove amarok amarok-engines amarok-xine ; dpkg --purge amarok08:06
Skrotshould do the trick08:06
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bleakedSkrot. wouldn't: sudo aptitude purge amarok amarok-engines amarok-xine    be easier and work better?08:11
SkrotPerhaps. I've never used aptitude and I gave root a password right after install. Too used to Debian I guess :)08:12
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hischamhello, how to change priority of a process in KDE?08:13
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hischamanyone?08:14
bleakedSkrot. well nearly every deb  user i have ever met (especially the devs) recommend aptitude, since it actually tracks your actions and allows you to undo them.  it also works the exact same way apt-get does..same commands and everything.  So your argument that you're 'used to debian' doesn't seem valid.08:14
bleakedand for the record, running a purge command removes and cleans up files.08:15
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Skrotbleaked: Forgive my ignorance, but I've never used aptitude and I'm used to apt-get. But I'll take your word for it, and I'll try it out :)08:16
bleakedrabe, hischam, whatever you are, on your keyboard: ctrl-esc   -- then right click no the process and renice it08:17
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rabeok08:22
rabeyeah, worked, thanks08:23
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lilminimey06do anyone have a idea howto get amarok working with a ipod?08:26
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lilminimey06just bought me ipod nano :P And i sure wanna test it;P08:26
SeantaterI'd look on wiki.ubuntu.com08:27
SeantaterI've never had (or seen) an ipod08:27
robotgeeklilminimey06: doesn't it work automagically08:27
SeantaterProbably08:27
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lilminimey06robotgeek: no08:27
robotgeeklilminimey06: there's a bit reagrding ipod management in the amarok handbook, i think08:27
lilminimey06robotgeek: tnks, *starting to read*08:28
nochhey . . . what is a site where i can browse plugins?08:29
robotgeeknoch: plugins for what?08:29
lilminimey06robotgeek: didn't find any:/08:29
nochplugins in general08:29
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nochkubuntu i guess08:29
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noch??08:31
robotgeeklilminimey06: http://amarok.kde.org/files/articles/ipod_amarok_tux_june05.pdf08:32
Seantaterwhat kind of plugins?08:32
Seantaternoch: The world does not have every plugin in existance in one place08:32
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Seantaternoch: We employ redundancy08:32
nochlol i guess not . . .08:33
Seantaternoch: You have to more specific08:33
nochi guess i dont have anything in mind08:33
nochjust wanted to browse08:33
Seantaternoch: For an IRC bot written in python that has plugins, there is supybot.com08:33
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SeantaterI just don;t think that is what you are looking for08:33
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Seantaternoch: If you are bored; try www.kde-look.org08:34
nochahh there we go . . . just throw me a shiny red ball08:34
nochwoot08:34
nochthx seantater08:34
Seantaterhow about www.kde-apps.org08:35
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nochill bookmark it for later08:36
nochthx08:36
Seantaterinstall kde-amusements08:36
Seantaterit may keep you entertained for a minute08:37
flohow can y abilitate the transparencies in dapper?i'vd tried modifing my xorg.conf but then my xserver wont startup08:37
Seantater!composite08:37
ubotu[composite]  at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20769 -- make sure you read the whole thread.08:37
SeantaterThat _may_help08:37
flothx08:37
Seantaterwow--those were easy :-)08:39
flohttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20769 this is for Hoary, should work for dapper?08:39
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nochok, im back, with a noob question08:46
nochhow do i copy file(s) to a restricted location?08:46
nochi have root access08:47
robotgeeksudo cp <target> <destination>08:48
robotgeekubotu: tell noch about cli08:48
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che_benwayhi all. my internet connection is really slow recently. Works super fast with windows. Any idea how I can tweak the settings to make it faster? Find out whats slowing it down??09:00
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syniehmm, quake freezes the whole computer, if i run q3dm2 o.O09:04
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sledgeche_benway: Can you explain what you mean with slow? Is web browsing slow?09:13
sledgeche_benway: Or are you not getting the full bandwidth your ISP provides to you?09:14
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che_benwaysledge: I get one meg from my ISP. It takes a long time (about 15 - 20 secs) from the time I enter a web address to the time it actually starts loading09:27
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mzinzIs there an apt-get for Shockwave?09:30
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digitsmzinz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Flash#head-55dd46852b91060cde557660462b56e31cac305f09:35
Fuzzy76I'm having trouble getting konqueror to stop handling my weblinks from thunderbird. I have firefox installed. Any quick hints?09:35
Fuzzy76hmm... weird. the topic links from this channel opened in firefox as they should.09:36
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digitsFuzzy76: K -> System Settings -> User Account -> Default Applications09:36
jonathan_I'm having cpu trouble with gam_server09:37
jonathan_running it with amarok it's taking 15%-20% of my cpu09:37
Fuzzy76digits: I did. It works from Kopete, but not from Thunderbird. :-/09:37
mzinzdigits: does wine take many resources?09:38
Fuzzy76and yes, I tried to restart thunderbird09:38
digitsmzinz: yes and no, it depends on which program you use... some are more supported than others09:38
digitsFuzzy76: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/linuxurls.html09:40
Fuzzy76thanks :)09:41
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digitsFuzzy76: np09:42
digitsFuzzy76: (klicked the first link on google ;P)09:42
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Fuzzy76:p09:44
derekSi am running kde (with no gnome/gtk apps) however if i remove libgtk, it wants to remove things like dbus and avahi09:44
derekSand koffice09:44
jorikhow do i record sounds in ubuntu ?09:44
derekSis there a reason for this?09:44
derekSand parts of amorak09:44
derekSetc09:44
kkathmanapparently there is a reason09:46
kkathmanyou can go to #kubuntu-dev and perhaps ask them09:47
jonathan_is anyone else experiencing problems with gam_server?09:47
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uniqdereks: which package is it you're trying to remove?09:54
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derekSuniq: libgtk2.0-009:55
derekSso it wipes out gtk09:55
derekShere is some of the ones that concern me that it wants to remove "amarok-engines amarok-gstreamer avahi-utils dbus-1-utils gconf2"09:56
uniqdereks: you can use 'apt-cache rdepends libgtk2.0-0' to see which packages depend on it.09:56
uniqthat'll explain why you can't remove it.09:56
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derekSactually gconf2 doesn't concern me09:56
kkathmanlibgtk is a foundational library, that unfortunately has the gtk in it.09:57
jonathan_is anyone in here besides me using the beta kubuntu?09:57
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kkathmanso its "assumed" to be part of "gnome"09:57
jonathan_i have resource questions09:57
derekSi know what depends on it but why would koffice depend on libgtk?09:57
derekSkkathman: its not a foundation library, koffice *shouldn't* depend on libgtk09:57
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derekSi actually understand why the ones above do09:57
kkathmanderekS:  because libgtk is just a C lib thats all and many many proggies use it09:58
kkathmanits foundational09:58
derekSkkathman: yeah, but kde programs don't09:58
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kkathmanyeah alot of them do believe it or not :)09:58
kkathmanrightly or wrongly09:58
derekSkkathman: you are telling me that koffice and kword use it?09:58
kkathmanapparently09:58
derekSkkathman: go into #koffice and ask them if they do :)09:58
kkathmanI didnt write them, but yeah there's a dependency09:58
kkathmanshrug09:59
kkathmanwhat can I say?09:59
kkathmanhehe09:59
kkathmanwanna find out?   get the source of koffice and try to compile it without libgtk09:59
kkathmanhehe09:59
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kkathmanyo sNake :)10:00
kkathmanSnake__:  :)10:00
kkathmannot the fake sNake but the real one :)10:00
Snake___kkathman: heyy10:01
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Snake__kkathman: I want sNake grrr!! lol10:01
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kkathmanhehe10:02
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derekSkkathman: find libgtk here: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-kde/trunk/packages/koffice/debian/control?op=file&rev=0&sc=010:03
kkathmandont know what to tell ya :)10:05
derekSheh10:05
kkathmanlike I said go to #kubuntu-dev and tell them10:05
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kkathmanthey can tell you or fix it10:05
derekSheh10:05
derekSok10:05
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kkathmanderekS:  and if you find out about it..please let us know :)10:06
derekSheh ok10:06
derekSfirst i am upgrading to 1.510:06
temifowlDoes anyone know how to set up a printer?10:07
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kkathmanderekS:  if its of any consequence, Im on SUSE right now, and a KDE-only install - and when I look at my lib list...libgtk shows installed :)10:08
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derekSkkathman: did you look at what packages required it?10:08
kkathmanlemme check10:08
kkathmanim firing up YaST...one moment10:10
derekS:)10:10
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gottloshow do i set a program to run at startup?10:10
temifowlanyone know how to set up a printer?10:11
NoUsetemifowl system settings -> printers10:11
NoUsegottlos put a link to the app in Autostart via konqueror10:11
gottlosthanks10:11
temifowlyo nouse, how do i find my printer?10:12
NoUsetemifowl is it via USB?10:12
temifowlya10:13
NoUsetemifowl I think you just say its a USB printer and then select the model10:13
temifowllol, how do you say its a usb printer, theres no options10:13
kkathmanderekS:  well odd...  now it says its NOT installed :)10:14
temifowlooh10:14
temifowlfound it :D10:14
derekSkkathman: haha, there is NO reason it should be10:14
kkathmanI have a libgtkhtml10:14
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kkathmanwhich is new10:14
kkathmanhm10:14
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derekSnow it wants to remove kubuntu-desktop if i remove libgtk10:15
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kkathmanderekS:  ahhh I was looking in the wrong section10:15
derekSohhh10:16
kkathmanits now libgtk10:16
kkathmanits just gtk and gtk210:16
kkathmanbut10:16
kkathmanit does specifically state its a Gnome specific lib10:16
kkathmanUI lib10:16
derekSkkathman: i don't think you can have gtk2 without libgtk210:16
kkathmanbut I cant explain why its installed10:16
kkathmanwell SUSE has a slightly different packaging too10:17
derekSkkathman: yeah i know10:17
kkathmanthere is no "libgtk"  but a gtk dev package10:17
kkathmanbut still10:17
temifowlIt works :o10:17
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kkathmanim perplexed as well10:18
derekSkkathman: why not try removing it?10:18
kkathmanagainst I figure it must be because some developer uses a routine in it :)10:18
kkathmanstill worth a question to #kubuntu-dev10:18
derekSkkathman: heh10:18
derekSkkathman: i asked there10:18
derekSno response10:18
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kkathmanhmm10:19
kkathmanpage Riddell10:19
kkathmanmaybe he knows10:19
qualusheya. i'm runnign Kubuntu, but for some reason i can't use the "make" commands. ever.10:19
qualusO_o10:19
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derekSkkathman: he isn't in there10:20
kkathmanhe should be around later10:20
derekSyeah10:20
kkathmanderekS:  whats the package again?10:22
kkathmanlibgtk what?10:22
derekSlibgtk2.0-010:22
kkathmanhmm10:23
derekSits just the libraries behind gtk10:23
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kkathmanahh there he is now10:23
kkathmanRiddell right on cue :)10:23
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derekSi just asked him in devel :)10:24
kkathmanderekS:  that library has to do with GIMP I think10:25
kkathmanGTK - Gimp Tool Kit10:25
derekSkkathman: right, i don't have gimp on it :)10:25
kkathmanbut I wonder10:25
derekSall gtk = gimp tool kit10:25
derekSthats what it started as10:25
kkathmandoes koffice somehow need the drawing tools in the gtk for something?10:25
derekSkkathman: no10:25
kkathmanhmm10:26
derekSgtk would be comparable to qt10:26
kkathmanwell Riddell would know10:26
derekSyeah10:26
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Search4Lancer!codec10:32
ubotuSearch4Lancer: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:32
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NoUse!w32codecs10:32
ubotuw32codecs is, like, totally, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install10:32
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bobbinThe live DVD is ok live but does badly as an install medium. I had to use the CD iso to install, the DVD versions of things still consistently fail on my machine.10:44
kkathmanderekS:  well..do we have a verdict?10:45
derekSkkathman: gstreamer is in kubuntu-desktop :)10:46
kkathmanyes10:46
kkathmanwell10:46
kkathmanits an add on10:46
kkathmannot standard10:46
kkathmani just installed it this morning in fact because amarok wasnt working10:47
bobbinAnyway, I want to demonstrate Dapper (KDissert in particular) to a Windows buddy, but not to do a full install. I was wondering, does anybody know the necessary steps to install particular apps from repositories to a directory on a Windows partition, and then add it to the path when the live dvd is booted?10:47
uniqbobbin: can't you put it on a usb-stick or something?10:48
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derekSkkathman: no it is a standard10:48
uniqor download from within the live dvd.10:48
derekSnot on dapper, on breezy10:48
kkathmanohh perhaps so...Im on dapper10:48
derekSyeah10:48
uniqdereks: you don't need to have kubuntu-desktop installed, you can safely remove the kubuntu-desktop package if it depends on packages you don't want.10:49
derekSuniq: i know10:49
derekSbut when i dist-upgrade10:50
derekSit will come back10:50
derekSiirc10:50
uniqno, it won't.10:50
derekSi thought it will?10:50
uniqno.10:50
bobbinuniq: Probably, but it's smaller than the live DVD image (at 1 GB vs >1GB). Or do you mean install the extra apps to the USB stick?10:50
uniqnot unless some updated version of a package depends on it.10:51
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derekShmm10:51
uniqbobbin: download the needed files to install kdissert on to a usb-stick, and install them on the live system while running.10:52
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derekSuniq: i am considering upgrading to dapper on this machine soon anyways...10:52
uniqbobbin: you could always download and install from the internet while running from the live dvd.. if you have internet access, that's probably the easiest way.10:52
derekSso i am not THAT worried10:52
bobbinuniq: That's what I thought. What command would I need to use to install to the USB stick's /etc or /opt or /user/bin ? I don't want to do a reinstall every time...10:54
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uniqdereks: on a clean dapper system amarok is the only application in kubuntu-desktop depending on libgtk2.0-0.10:54
derekSuniq: this is more or less clean10:54
derekSand i thought dapper uses xine10:54
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uniqbobbin: if you can, use a live dvd, connect to the internet, sudo apt-get install kdissert. copy the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives to the usb-stick. when installing on a new system dpkg -i *.deb from the usb-stick.10:56
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vgeback, whats the easiest way to use MS Word in KDE :/10:57
derekSvge: you don't :)10:57
derekSuse kword10:57
vgei just have to and i dont have dual boot10:57
derekSor ooo writer10:57
derekSvge: crossover office MIGHT work for you, but its not free10:57
uniqdereks: sorry, my bad, wrong chroot. i mean in breezy it's only amarok that depends on gtk. :)10:57
vgevmware just aint fast enought in my laptop10:58
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derekSuniq: on mine, koffice and kword do :(10:58
vgederekS: well i have allot of doc documents atm :/10:58
derekSvge: i told you, crossover office MIGHT work, as might XINE10:58
uniqkoffice and kword isn't in kubuntu-desktop. but yes, you're right.10:58
derekSvge: abiword/ooo/koffice open word files10:59
derekSuniq: yeah10:59
vgederekS: i know i know10:59
derekSuniq: i didn't realize it wasn't in it10:59
vgejust that ms cant do it correctly :D10:59
vgei just cant start to learn OOWriter and all it's differences atm, im kinda in a deadline with my thesis :)11:00
bobbinuniq: does "when instalIing on a new system" refer to putting the apt/archives to the Windows partition?11:00
vgebut ill try the methos you suggested11:01
derekSvge: theyare VERY similar11:01
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vgederekS: yes, i know, but it's just not a option atm11:02
slow-motionre11:02
derekSok11:02
uniqbobbin: when installing kdissert on a new live system. You can of course copy the files to a windows partition instead of a usb-stick if you prefer. That wouldn't matter. The only problem could be writing to NTFS, most winxp systems use it, and it's not recommended to write to from linux. Using a usb-stick with FAT or similar that won't be a problem.11:04
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navidjoonSorry guys, sounds like I messed my Adept11:25
navidjoonIt gives some wiered message11:25
navidjoonHere it goes:11:25
navidjoonThe APT Database will be opened in read-only mode, this means you cannot install/uninstall/upgrade anything. You have to run this program as root to be able to do that.11:26
navidjoonWhat can I do?11:26
joriknavidjoon, run it as root ?11:26
jorikyou probably mistyped your password or something11:26
navidjoonAs root?11:26
joriktry opening a shell and typing "sudo adept"11:26
navidjoonNo, I type adept11:26
navidjoonIt prompts for  the password and ...11:26
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navidjoonAs I always did11:26
navidjoonI did a sudo adept11:27
navidjoonBut still no luck11:27
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navidjoonIs there some kind of lock file for it?11:28
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jorikyeah but that would give a diffrent error AFAIK11:28
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navidjoonAny further suggestion guys?11:28
navidjoonPlease help, I have just set up this box and need it for my job11:29
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uniqnavidjoon: 'sudo fuser -vk /var/lib/dpkg/lock' then try 'kdesu adept'11:35
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nico8481re11:36
Boeboeis it possible to install extra programs while using the live cd? even if only until you shut down the pc11:36
navidjoonDid that uniq but no luck again11:37
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HaxoR91hi11:39
HaxoR91i want to add sounds on kubuntu11:39
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wimpiesI need a newer version of open office.  Use breezy's version now.11:39
uniqboeboe: yes.11:39
wimpiesCan I use Dapper's.  Would I need to upgrade lots ofpackages Or only OO ?11:40
HaxoR91i want to add sounds on gaim i meant11:40
HaxoR91but it work on kubuntu11:40
HaxoR91wont work11:41
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HaxoR91how do i make the sounds work on gaim with kubuntu?11:42
ph3rHey, I just installed kubuntu. I have an nVidia gfx card, and I've noticed this with gnome too, when kde starts, the screen is "distorted" like a moasic.11:43
uniqwimpies: i would not recommend using dapper packages in breezy. Try to find a backported version.11:43
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ph3rHey, I just installed kubuntu. I have an nVidia gfx card, and I've noticed this with gnome too, when kde starts, the screen is "distorted" like a moasic.11:44
wimpiesBackported ? any idea where ?11:44
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krenxwhen ive untared files and ./configure them, it says "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH". why?11:47
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krenxive installed a c compiler from adept-manager11:47
uniqwimpies: don't know, try searching google for 'openoffice breezy backport' or something similar.11:48
uniqkrenx: find 'build-essential' in adept, and install it.11:48
krenxcheers11:49
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uniqwimpies: you can try theese: http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2/11:51
uniqthat would be 'deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2/ ./' in sources.list11:51
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HaxoR91where can i download audio drivers?11:55
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HaxoR91?11:57
HaxoR91where can i download audio drivers?11:57
SeantaterI doubt you need to11:57
SeantaterMost drivers for Linux come built-in11:57
SeantaterAre you having sound problems?11:57
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SeantaterHaxoR91:bump11:59
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HaxoR91yea i am sean12:00
SeantaterI beleive ubotu had something to say on this:12:01
SeantaterI'm going to have to check12:01
lilminimey06hallo everyone. Today i bought me a ipod nano and i wanted to get it working with Amarok, but with no luck. Anyone got a ipod working with amarok?12:01
Seantater!sound12:01
ubotumethinks sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary12:01
HaxoR91i have problems with totem12:01
HaxoR91i cant play anything with totem12:02
Seantateronly totem, nothing else?12:02
Seantater!info totem12:02
ubotutotem: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop (dummy package)), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-0ubuntu3.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 36 kB12:02
Seantaterah-ha!12:02
krenxuniq: now i have problems with the make command, it says: no makefile found12:02

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