=== lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@84.Red-83-55-199.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:09] slomo_: still there? I hope I'm not missing you again another day.. [12:09] sivang: still there, yes ;) [12:09] but not for long [12:09] :-/ === sivang is slow [12:10] don't worry :) i'll take a look at your package... and then go to bed :) [12:10] slomo_: well, I don't want to keep you up [12:10] slomo_: if we don't finish before you need to go to bed, just sign off, I'll ping you again tomorrow === sivang tries to understand the relation between --prefix in disutils and where the package is getting builu [12:11] built, eeven === baconbacon [n=bacon@modemcable020.207-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:24] slomo_: hmm, weird, I suggenly get this when binary building : [12:24] slomo_: Died at /usr/bin/intltool-merge line 1069. [12:24] slomo_: for both desktop files [12:24] sivang: nice... what did you do? [12:25] slomo_: well, only what you said :) [12:26] sivang: ok, weird :) could you upload it somewhere? [12:26] I'm trying to run it manually now, maybe I will get a prope error message [12:26] slomo_: sure, to revu [12:26] sec [12:26] just need to finish the "making scripts executable bit" [12:37] slomo_: okay, building source and uploaidng [12:40] slomo_: done, it's on revu [12:40] sivang: url? :) [12:40] slomo_: well, I need ot wait 5 minute for it to come up there, and then I will send you [12:40] ok === sivang waits impatiently for REVU to process [12:42] slomo_: see f you can check the intl tool die out please ;-) ? [12:44] slomo_: this is what intl tool tried to do when diying - open OUTPUT, ">${OUTFILE}" or die; === Gervystar [n=alessand@ip-124-244.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4206395.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:48] slomo_: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2304 === baconbacon [n=bacon@modemcable020.207-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Quitte"] [12:50] sivang: thanks... hm, i'll take a look tomorrow, ok? or is it really urgent? [12:50] slomo_: well, only if you can ack that the previous issue are okay and I'm only left at finding out that die out ? :) === sivang would like ot have knowlege of what is still broken to be prepared for tomorrow [12:51] oh [12:51] hm [12:51] shouldn't python be in Build-Depends? [12:52] and you should only set the files executable that have the shebang ;) [12:52] not all .py files [12:52] they all do [12:52] in the backend dir [12:53] each program makes sens to run on it's own [12:53] the unit tests are differnet cmd line utils [12:53] ok [12:53] and please put python into Build-Depends [12:53] ah, apart maybe for the __init__.py ... [12:53] it's required for clean [12:53] how come ? [12:53] (for clean, that is) [12:53] you call python in clean ;) === nictuku [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:54] but isn't depending on python-dev in -indep enough? [12:54] no... Build-Depends must contain everything that is needed for clean and binary-arch [12:54] Build-Depends-Indep everything additionally required for binary-indep [12:54] ah... [12:55] did you remove the .bzr directories? [12:55] yes [12:55] I added it to a script I made to create the source [12:55] there's still the space missing for the coreutils Depends [12:56] hm why don't you use bzr export or similar? :) [12:56] in the rules file? [12:56] coreutils in control === cyberix [n=cyberix@hoas-fe36dd00-251.dhcp.inet.fi] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:56] and bzr export for your create-source script [12:57] fixed coreutils space [12:57] fixed python build-depends [12:58] hm should be fine then [12:58] slomo_: ah, I sometimes commit only after building a source and seeing it's good [12:58] but i'll take a closer look tomorrow :) [12:58] okay :-) I didn't packaging something so siple can become such a project === sivang wishesfor 48 hours a day [01:01] hehe [01:01] packaging can be much work :) [01:02] well, I already had so much work in the coding itself, [01:02] I thought this is going to be resting :) [01:02] so I'm surprised [01:03] slomo_: anyway, thank you for your help [01:03] np :) if you still have any questions feel free to ask... and i'll tell you tomorrow when something is still wrong with the package, otherwise get bddebian to look at it and upload :) === sivang would open a chapmagne [01:04] this seems a hard birth :) [01:04] well, your package was really good for the first time :) [01:05] hehe, thanks. I followed and studied gdebi, and tried to make it best suited for upbackup, so I leanred from the best eventhough they made it a bit hackish due lack of time :) [01:06] slomo_: so coreutils space and Python into build depends are the last two thing syou can remember fornow right? [01:06] yes [01:06] okay, I'll upload a new version to revu so you could take a look tommorow morning [01:07] thanks :) and now i go to bed... good night :) [01:08] night === theCore__ [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4207665.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:13] hmm, I wonder why when dputting i get "this key is not certified blah blah" for my own key .. [01:14] anybody an idea? [01:15] ah, never mind, night all === redguy [n=mati@acr126.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore__ [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4208346.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure_ [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] Heya gang [02:10] hi all [02:11] Hello jmg [02:11] afternoon [02:11] Heya ajmitch [02:12] does dholback hang out here? [02:13] bach* [02:13] yes, but he's asleep. [02:13] crimsun: thanks [02:14] dholbach is everywhere === LaserJock looks around nervously ;-) [02:14] LaserJock: :-) [02:15] everything is slow [02:15] (all the *.ubuntu.com sites) [02:16] LP seems OK to me [02:16] seems a bit sluggish, but I can't tell whether that's due to current wifi traffic [02:16] seems fast enough for me [02:16] cant search ubuntu-devel from google groups :( [02:17] Gads, some of these bug reports are just funky [02:18] jmg: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel [02:18] if you think it's bad now, just wait til dapper releases === theCore [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4205928.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:18] we're going to have loads of fun [02:19] Why, our job it done after release ;-P [02:19] hi [02:20] Heya chillywilly [02:20] if you don't work with/aren't upstream, sure ;) [02:20] crimsun: I'm nobody :-) [02:20] bddebian: you're somebody to me :) [02:21] chillywilly: Aww, thanks d00d :-) === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jmg updates wiki for xen on dapper === jmg heads up the road for some food === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marineboy [n=PX2@nc-71-49-180-128.dhcp.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marineboy [n=PX2@nc-71-49-180-128.dhcp.sprint-hsd.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:51] Egads, vnc4 is 26 Mb [02:53] sure, it probably has a bunch of xfree86 source in it [02:53] if I attach a debdiff to a bug in a universe package, I can assign it to motu-reviewers? [02:54] trappist: Sure [02:55] ossum. and that's motu-reviewers@tauware.de ? === imbrandon [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo__ [n=slomo@p5486FBC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Se7h [n=MUAHAHAH@tor/session/external/x-44c174568ed0415e] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mau [n=ubuntu@201.19.250.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mau [n=ubuntu@201.19.250.30] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Fui] [03:14] why cant i edit a spec on lp? says permission denied [03:17] A spec? [03:18] bddebian: specifications [03:19] jmg: I know what spec means, I didn't get the context for LP :-) [03:20] ajmitch: Is vnc4 unfixable? [03:20] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/xen-enabled-kernel === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] Ohh === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:26] Heya Hobbsee [03:26] heh, rename is disabled. === Hobbsee waves to bddebian === StevenK jumps on Hobbsee. === Hobbsee retaliates, and bashes StevenK up repeatedly :P [03:28] That took some doing. [03:28] hehe [03:28] bddebian: vnc4 is *hard* to fix. [03:28] bashing, wheee! [03:28] me too, me too! [03:29] bddebian: It contains parts of XFree86 in its source tree. [03:29] StevenK: OK thx, I'll assign it to ajmitch then ;-P [03:29] bddebian: I spent the better part of two hours looking at it, and gave up in disgust. [03:30] haha...ajmitch will love that... === StevenK ponders asking for a UVF exception for pocketpc-sdk [03:32] I don't like my chances, though. [03:34] I looked at that one. Didn't touch it :-) === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:35] hi I have made a patch for bug #41123 should I send it to revu? [03:35] Malone bug 41123 in smart "wrong default channel for dapper " [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/41123 [03:35] I mean, send the updated package [03:36] nictuku: I would prefer the patch on LP, but that's just my worthless personal opinion :-) [03:36] bddebian: Well, I'm going to try a rebuild, and see what that does. [03:36] should I update the changlog too? [03:37] nictuku: Yes [03:38] ok, done, sent the patch to LP. who should I talk to to merge that? :-) [03:38] mvo? [03:38] Someone who to can upload to universe? :-) [03:40] motu's, please consider merging this. smartpm is cool and deserves working default settings :-) [03:40] nictuku: If it's a universe packages, I'll try to take a look after fceu finishes building [03:40] bddebian, thank you [03:40] yes it's a universe package [03:41] I'm here to serve! :-) === theCore__ [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4207901.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK looks for MOTU UVF docs. [03:41] Even though crimsun hates me ;-P [03:42] hehe...poor bddebian [03:42] StevenK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-February/000545.html [03:44] Hobbsee: I found the wiki page about one minute ago. :-P === StevenK is typing out a bug report. [03:44] hehe === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:45] nictuku: Trying now [03:53] OK fceu sucks [03:54] heh [03:55] OK, you folks are killing my Morrowind time [03:55] nictuku: Uploaded [03:56] :-) nice! [03:56] nictuku: I have marked the bug as Fix Committed. Watch for it and close the bug as Fix Released. Thanks! === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch returns [03:58] uh-oh === alex__ [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4208431.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:59] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenEnabledKernelDraft <- thoughts, comments? [04:00] there is also bug #26601 but i don't know if the patch applies anymore [04:00] Malone bug 26601 in bittornado bittornado-gui "btdownloadgui crashes on startup" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/26601 [04:01] nictuku: Oh, so now I'm your slave? ;-) [04:02] bddebian: is that a change from normal? [04:02] bddebian, *you* volunteered to be a MOTU :-) [04:02] ajmitch: No :-) [04:04] I don't know how the repositories updates work, but now that the change was uploaded, when is it expected to be in the universe? Is there a daily update or so? [04:04] heya guys who/where do i need to talk to about getting a fubuntu-desktop going, i've get a meta package and respitory foing right now but i'm talking aobut "officialy" ( fubuntu being fluxbox desktop for mini ram mini mhz machines ) [04:04] nictuku: Should be there in a couple hours unless the buildds are extremely busy [04:04] bddebian, ah ok [04:06] jmg, /me likes that spec [04:06] nictuku: Can't touch that one, it's main. Sorry [04:07] oh [04:07] forgot about that [04:07] sorry [04:07] imbrandon: Add a spec for edgy on launchpad [04:08] imbrandon: and discuss on ubuntu-devel [04:08] ok thanks , just wasent sure what direction to head, that gives me a starting point === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:19] ahmm bddebian said "... and close the bug as Fix Released". It's not the time to close it yet, but I couldnt find the option for fixing/closing/changing status of a bug. do I have access to that? [04:20] should I use reportbug or malone is fine? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:20] nictuku: Click on the bug title (package name) hyperlink [04:20] But I haven't gotten an accepted message yet either?? Hmm === theCore__ [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4206347.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4206347.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nictuku [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-motu === alex__ [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4206054.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@ip68-226-0-76.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4206340.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore__ [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4206340.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:10] hi all [05:10] evening [05:10] hello imbrandon [05:14] Heya zakame [05:14] hello bddebian === alex__ [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4206293.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === alex__ [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4206293.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:35] wb LaserJock :-) [05:35] bddebian: fix my bugz kthx [05:35] crimsun: Gimme some, I'll try [05:35] bddebian: take any of them with alsa-lib in the source package :-) [05:36] alsa.. Ugh :-) [05:36] :-) [05:36] Got an example? [05:36] you could probably search and find one faster than I can load Opera atm [05:37] OK [05:37] crimsun: Hey, want access to a faster box to build on? [05:37] is it ppc or amd64? [05:37] Oh, i386 sorry === theCore__ [n=alex@toronto-HSE-ppp4206293.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:38] If I keep at this Ubuntu thing, I may get one of each though ;-P [05:39] cool :) [05:39] I'm good on ia32, but thanks for offering :) [05:40] I used to have a bunch of PowerBooks but I gave them all away to GNU and Hurd folks :-( [05:40] I've got an old crappy Wallstreet II laying around here somewhere [05:46] I've got a x86 mac but that doesn't help :( === bddebian wants an RS/6000 :-) [05:46] sometimes I wish I had ordered it a week before [05:50] crimsun: alsa stuff is going to be main though isn't it? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:50] bddebian: yep [05:51] hmm [05:53] most of the alsa-lib ones are "thinking" options. I'm debating whether to propose a change to src:gnome-control-center so that if the normal name string selector (System> Preferences> Sound> default sound card) doesn't work, it will fall back to using the old Breezy-style index [05:54] (currently alsa-lib accepts both ``asoundconf list'' syntax and the old Breezy-style index) [05:55] granted the new Dapper way is much more flexible, but it fails on some serious cases, whereas the old Breezy-style index always works [but you run the risk of the id changing underneath you when you reboot] [05:59] Ah, hmm [05:59] yeah, "lesser of two evils" deal. The trick is masking it from the user. [06:00] Hmm, kinda like voting here in the US ;-P [06:01] heh :p [06:02] bddebian: what? people vote? ;-) === Mongoose [n=mongoose@ip68-106-216-206.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:02] LaserJock: Well, not FOR anything, just against things :-) [06:16] we all ok to upload atm? [06:17] yes [06:21] Hasn't stopped me. :-) [06:22] nothing would stop you, bddebian [06:22] guys - i did somethign before wher ei could view a diff [06:23] highlighting changes at a sub-line level [06:23] anyone knwo what it was? :) [06:23] wdiff [06:23] ah it is wdiff? [06:23] that'l show an existing patch? [06:23] when used in conjunction with other stuff, sure [06:23] ajmitch: :-) [06:23] I think debdiff has an option to use wdiff [06:23] hrm [06:24] yeh [06:24] maybe thats what i was doing === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:27] is anyone else having issues getting to archive.u.c intermittenly? [06:28] in fact i seeem to be having intermitten issues to the canonical stuff in general [06:28] launchpad is haibitually timing out too === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:42] Bedtime for Bonzo. Gnight folks === keel [n=keel@tor/session/external/x-4f893d3c975c9809] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:22] what is that took ubuntu so long until it got a functional installation/live cd? why was it not possible to simply import knoppix technology? (i am not complaining or rhetoricizing, i really am very much interested in understanding what makes such cooperation impossible in the world of open source.) === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@210.1.85.16] has joined #ubuntu-motu === franck [n=franck@tikiwiki/franck] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:42] Hi all motu [07:42] I have two packages I made for mandriva and I'd like to see them included in ubuntu... How to go about that? [07:43] the packages do not need compile, it is php script and data [07:43] the packages name are tikiwiki and tikiwiki-mapdata they require php4-mapscript which is in universe [07:43] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUNewSoftware [07:46] crimsun: thanks.... tikiwiki is #5 most popular php application as per freshmeat ;) === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B0B03.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:57] good morning motu world === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:01] dholbach: nooooooo === Tm_T hides [08:02] Tm_T: the sun is shining... :-) [08:02] dholbach: it is, been shining directly to my monitor last 4 hours [08:02] hmmmm nice [08:03] indeed, can't really tell what happens in black spots =) [08:05] hi dholbach, Tm_T [08:05] after my last appartment, I enjoy every ray of sun and didn't think of buying blinds yet [08:05] hi ajmitch [08:06] ajmitch: heya [08:07] dholbach: ugh, as soon as I get enough money for laptop and wifi I'll sit out there ircin' [08:07] sun is down ~6h in day, but its dark only few night hours [08:07] haha! Tm_T: good thinking - it's just they're building in front of my house - so no summer love on the balcony yet [08:08] and birds... start around 0430 :p === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === franck [n=franck@tikiwiki/franck] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK prods dholbach to look at his UVF exception. :-P [08:20] StevenK: relax [08:20] I'm just going through the unread ones I have. This very moment. === polx [n=polx@S0106001346161fe5.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:21] hello StevenK [08:21] dholbach: Heh === StevenK waves to ajmitch [08:21] StevenK: is there a upstream changelog? [08:22] hm, doesnt seem so [08:22] dholbach: Not that I could see, but the upstream version doesn't change. [08:22] oh [08:22] then you don't need a uvf [08:22] ...exception [08:22] I don't? [08:22] no [08:22] UPSTREAM version freeze [08:23] not DEBIAN version freez :-p === dholbach hugs StevenK === StevenK grins shiftly. [08:23] just subscribe ubuntu-archive and get it synced [08:23] So, I just need to ask for a sync. [08:23] yeah [08:23] and thanks for working that out [08:25] dholbach: Sorry for a being a dill. :-) [08:25] StevenK: not at all [08:26] StevenK: we won't make fun of you at all ;) [08:27] Heh === Lure_ [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK trips over the make documentation. === StevenK shivers at the warnings generated when building glpk. [08:46] re all === Mithrandir [n=tfheen@c5100BC63.inet.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK kicks make. [09:04] make love, not war [09:05] It will always add -fPIC, or never add it. I can't force it to behave how I want it to. === keel [n=keel@tor/session/external/x-4f893d3c975c9809] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === herzi [n=herzi@d060237.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:25] hummm === Tm_T wonders what are chances to get Kopete 0.12 to dapper === crimsun [i=crimsun@hacked.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B0B03.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i577B0B03.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-100-191.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem [n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach__ [n=daniel@i577B0B03.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dewd [n=dewd@201009186251.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === adu [n=adu@pool-72-66-81-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee waves to the room === ajmitch waves to the Hobbsee [10:05] i tried Ubuntu Live today [10:05] :) [10:05] it was good [10:06] ooh fun! [10:12] hi Hobbsee [10:12] and hi ajmitch [10:13] hello Mithrandir === Hobbsee tickles Mithrandir and pokes him with a big stick, then runs away [10:18] beat you :P [10:18] Hobbsee: I'm still not very tickly. :-) [10:18] :( [10:22] any administrator of revu around ? === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:23] freeflying: what's wrong? === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:24] ajmitch: transfer error due to the damn network here , :) [10:24] Hello [10:25] freeflying: ok [10:25] ajmitch: please delete the diveintopython-zh on revu, I can not finish upload [10:25] ajmitch: thx [10:25] done === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@84.Red-83-55-199.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mongoose is away: /_\ zzZzZZZZzz === marcin` [n=marcin@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_away [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-125-48.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:45] hi all [11:45] hey zakame :) [11:46] hello Gloubiboulga [11:46] what's up? [11:47] today's the day zakame, I'll apply for MOTUness at today's TB :) [11:48] Gloubiboulga: woohoo! :D [11:50] :) [11:50] Gloubiboulga: I'm not sure if I can attend the TB, I'll sure hope that $DEITY bless $you => $MOTU [11:51] hehe, thanks [12:01] woohoo LP is down :D [12:02] and so am I :D === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.126.153.233] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:33] tseng: ping? === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] Lathiat: pong === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh [n=shermann@ubuntu/member/backslash-sh] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:23] slomo__: ping [01:23] slomo__: did you have a chance to look at the freshened package? [01:23] <\sh> moins [01:23] moins \sh , how are you? [01:24] <\sh> back at work :) and a burning brain already :) [01:24] hey \sh [01:24] \sh: I heared Advil can do wonders :) [01:25] <\sh> sivang: :)) well, I just read a totally cluttered cfengine configuration :) no wonder that I'm feeling terrible :) [01:25] \sh, just dont touch cfengine ... its evil [01:26] :) [01:26] use plain preseeding ;) [01:26] <\sh> ogra: too late...I'm integrating now cfengine into fai :) [01:26] eeek === ogra would use ubuntus kickstart implementation, its way cleaner :) [01:27] ... and doesnt use cfengine :) [01:27] \sh: heh [01:28] <\sh> ogra: my order is to install sles9/10 automatically via fai from a debian system :) [01:28] *shudder* [01:28] tell them to use a real OS then ;) [01:30] ogra: I tried to tell people to do that, but they're still stuck with the notion that SLES/RHEL are enterprise grade distros. [01:30] heh, yes [01:31] <\sh> tbh, the problem is, as long there is no oracle certification of debian or ubuntu, redhat and novell/suse will have the advantages [01:31] <\sh> that's why they are using suse here :( === ryu [n=chris@p5487DC7C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:35] \sh: I hope Oracle certification will come promptly :-) [01:36] <\sh> sivang: which would be more then cool :) === sivang nods [01:36] its pretty likely [01:37] indeed. I don't think they will let IBM be there alone for long time [01:37] <\sh> depends, what larry will do about his idea of buying an OS :) [01:37] hehe [01:38] \sh: this is not official anyways, no? [01:38] (his idea of buying an OS etc) [01:38] <\sh> sivang: well, his mind is ill, so it can be real in no time... ;) [01:38] hehehe [01:39] \sh: he should go to another sail around the world and come back well :) [01:40] do you guys have an idea how I can query programtically for file extension which are supposed to be media files, rather then including a hard coded list of those? [01:40] (doing that from python, ofcourse) [01:40] <\sh> sivang: actually for Oracle an OS is the last coup they can do :) [01:43] \sh: it's not like they're in trouble or something..no? why would they need a last coup ? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:46] <\sh> because of MS and RedHat :) .... MS has everything from several OS to databases and application server business applications...redhat has an OS, with jboss also application server for business applications, oracle just has application server, databases and the business applications (like SAP) [01:51] \sh: I'm quite comfortable and happy with cfengine2 === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:52] \sh: we used FAI in the past, but switched to d-i preseeding [01:52] <\sh> siretart: as I said, I don't install d-i based systems...I adjusted fai like this, that it can install any os I like :) right now, it's been a suse rollout :) [01:53] <\sh> configuration management will be included with cfengine2, directly into fai..so there is only one master console for this stuff [01:53] <\sh> means, all configuration which is application dependant, not os dependant [01:59] \sh: sounds challanging :) === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@d059201.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.126.146.187] has joined #ubuntu-motu === truz24 [n=truz24@12-203-70-118.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:34] heylo === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@ip-124-244.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === moe_evil [n=patatama@118.Red-80-34-69.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:11] hi moe_evil [03:11] hi "r" u [03:11] hi vud1 ;) === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.212.10] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@ip-124-244.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock_away [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB_ [i=ghoseb@ubuntu-in.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jmg [n=jmg@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chninkel [n=yann@alcyone.pleiades.fr.eu.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lifeless [n=robertc@dsl-43.1.240.220.rns01-kent-syd.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === buggs [n=noidentd@shadow.splashground.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marticus [n=demart01@12-208-16-9.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@69.60.114.100] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kaloz [i=kaloz@openwrt.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:37] Heya gang [03:37] hi bddebian [03:38] Hi Hobbsee === Hobbsee waits for all the netsplitted people to rejoin === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.212.10] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu === VincentMX [n=vincent@c3eea5664.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:47] thanks for your reply, and for forwarding my bug report to the evolution team, dholbach! [03:47] hi all [03:47] hi zakame [03:47] Heya zakame, tritium [03:47] hi tritium bddebian! :D [03:49] is it hard to become packager? [03:49] do i need a fast pc? [03:49] hi bddebian! [03:50] VincentMX: nope, all you need is LOTS of love :) [03:50] i'ver got that [03:50] coolness, I just helped track an LP bug :) [03:50] And time :-) [03:50] only i don't hjave lots of people who love me as well [03:50] if I assign a bug to the motu reviewers team, it's motu-reviewers@tauware.de in lp? === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:51] VincentMX: Well you'll fit in fine with me then :-) [03:51] trappist: @lists.tauware.de iirc [03:51] I'm well disliked in #ubuntu-devel ;-P [03:51] just 'motu-reviewers' is fine too [03:51] ok [03:51] lol [03:51] dholbach: assignee not found if I do that [03:51] k right [03:52] motureviewers? [03:52] does any1 know if pykde works on dapper by any chance ? [03:53] ok here, can any motus, especially those running amd64, have a look at bug 41207 ? [03:53] Malone bug 41207 in libast "Eterm built against libast on amd64 has its buffer filled with garbage" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/41207 [03:53] what's the chances of make getting updated for dapper? this is the changelog http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/cbngtd43.html === vud1 is now known as jakin-vud1 [03:54] Hobbsee: What bugs does it fix? [03:54] StevenK: i'm not sure, it's being asked about in #ubuntu - i dont really understand much of the changelog.. [03:56] Hobbsee: Um. It depends on the case made to the MOTU UVF peoples. I'm not seeing anything in the changelog that is jumping out at me and saying, "Hey! I should be fixed in Dapper." [03:57] Hobbsee: i was going to upload the patch tonight [03:57] hmm, probably too late [03:57] zul: ah okay :) [03:57] oh, great then :) [03:57] zakame: its an amd64 patch for libast === godrik [n=godrik@mandan.imag.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:57] hi [03:57] i was asking on #ubuntu for an update of make 3.8.1b4 to make 3.8.1 [03:57] godrik: yes, [23:57] Hobbsee: i was going to upload the patch tonight [03:57] it seems that the release fixs bugs about function included by all make 3.8.1* like eval function [03:57] just found out [03:58] that cool! :) [03:58] zul: oh I thought it was for make [03:58] it is tonight in the USA ? [03:58] zakame: noope libast [03:58] godrik: No, it's the morning. [03:59]