[12:09] <sivang> slomo_: still there? I hope I'm not missing you again another day..
[12:09] <slomo_> sivang: still there, yes ;)
[12:09] <slomo_> but not for long
[12:09] <sivang> :-/
[12:10] <slomo_> don't worry :) i'll take a look at your package... and then go to bed :)
[12:10] <sivang> slomo_: well, I don't want to keep you up
[12:10] <sivang> slomo_: if we don't finish before you need to go to bed, just sign off, I'll ping you again tomorrow
[12:11] <sivang> built, eeven
[12:24] <sivang> slomo_: hmm, weird, I suggenly get this when binary building :
[12:24] <sivang> slomo_: Died at /usr/bin/intltool-merge line 1069.
[12:24] <sivang> slomo_: for both desktop files
[12:24] <slomo_> sivang: nice... what did you do?
[12:25] <sivang> slomo_: well, only what you said :)
[12:26] <slomo_> sivang: ok, weird :) could you upload it somewhere?
[12:26] <sivang> I'm trying to run it manually now, maybe I will get a prope error message
[12:26] <sivang> slomo_: sure, to revu
[12:26] <sivang> sec
[12:26] <sivang> just need to finish the "making scripts executable bit"
[12:37] <sivang> slomo_: okay, building source and uploaidng
[12:40] <sivang> slomo_: done, it's on revu
[12:40] <slomo_> sivang: url? :)
[12:40] <sivang> slomo_: well, I need ot wait 5 minute for it to come up there, and then I will send you
[12:40] <slomo_> ok
[12:42] <sivang> slomo_: see f you can check the intl tool die out please ;-) ?
[12:44] <sivang> slomo_: this is what intl tool tried to do when diying -     open OUTPUT, ">${OUTFILE}" or die;
[12:48] <sivang> slomo_: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2304
[12:50] <slomo_> sivang: thanks... hm, i'll take a look tomorrow, ok? or is it really urgent?
[12:50] <sivang> slomo_: well, only if you can ack that the previous issue are okay and I'm only left at finding out that die out ? :)
[12:51] <slomo_> oh
[12:51] <slomo_> hm
[12:51] <slomo_> shouldn't python be in Build-Depends?
[12:52] <slomo_> and you should only set the files executable that have the shebang ;)
[12:52] <slomo_> not all .py files
[12:52] <sivang> they all do
[12:52] <sivang> in the backend dir
[12:53] <sivang> each program makes sens to run on it's own
[12:53] <sivang> the unit tests are differnet cmd line utils
[12:53] <slomo_> ok
[12:53] <slomo_> and please put python into Build-Depends
[12:53] <sivang> ah, apart maybe for the __init__.py ...
[12:53] <slomo_> it's required for clean
[12:53] <sivang> how come ?
[12:53] <sivang> (for clean, that is)
[12:53] <slomo_> you call python in clean ;)
[12:54] <sivang> but isn't depending on python-dev in -indep enough?
[12:54] <slomo_> no... Build-Depends must contain everything that is needed for clean and binary-arch
[12:54] <slomo_> Build-Depends-Indep everything additionally required for binary-indep
[12:54] <sivang> ah...
[12:55] <slomo_> did you remove the .bzr directories?
[12:55] <sivang> yes
[12:55] <sivang> I added it to a script I made to create the source
[12:55] <slomo_> there's still the space missing for the coreutils Depends
[12:56] <slomo_> hm why don't you use bzr export or similar? :)
[12:56] <sivang> in the rules file?
[12:56] <slomo_> coreutils in control
[12:56] <slomo_> and bzr export for your create-source script
[12:57] <sivang> fixed coreutils space
[12:57] <sivang> fixed python build-depends
[12:58] <slomo_> hm should be fine then
[12:58] <sivang> slomo_: ah, I sometimes commit only after building a source and seeing it's good
[12:58] <slomo_> but i'll take a closer look tomorrow :)
[12:58] <sivang> okay :-) I didn't packaging something so siple can become such a project
[01:01] <slomo_> hehe
[01:01] <slomo_> packaging can be much work :)
[01:02] <sivang> well, I already had so much work in the coding itself,
[01:02] <sivang> I thought this is going to be resting :)
[01:02] <sivang> so I'm surprised
[01:03] <sivang> slomo_: anyway, thank you for your help
[01:03] <slomo_> np :) if you still have any questions feel free to ask... and i'll tell you tomorrow when something is still wrong with the package, otherwise get bddebian to look at it and upload :)
[01:04] <sivang> this seems a hard birth :)
[01:04] <slomo_> well, your package was really good for the first time :)
[01:05] <sivang> hehe, thanks. I followed and studied gdebi, and tried to make it best suited for upbackup, so I leanred from the best eventhough they made it a bit hackish due lack of time :)
[01:06] <sivang> slomo_: so coreutils space and Python into build depends are the last two thing syou can remember fornow right?
[01:06] <slomo_> yes
[01:06] <sivang> okay, I'll upload a new version to revu so you could take a look tommorow morning
[01:07] <slomo_> thanks :) and now i go to bed... good night :)
[01:08] <sivang> night
[01:13] <sivang> hmm, I wonder why when dputting i get "this key is not certified blah blah" for my own key ..
[01:14] <sivang> anybody an idea?
[01:15] <sivang> ah, never mind, night all
[02:10] <bddebian> Heya gang
[02:10] <jmg> hi all
[02:11] <bddebian> Hello jmg
[02:11] <ajmitch> afternoon
[02:11] <bddebian> Heya ajmitch
[02:12] <jmg> does dholback hang out here?
[02:13] <jmg> bach*
[02:13] <crimsun> yes, but he's asleep.
[02:13] <jmg> crimsun: thanks
[02:14] <LaserJock> dholbach is everywhere
[02:14] <bddebian> LaserJock: :-)
[02:15] <jmg> everything is slow
[02:15] <jmg> (all the *.ubuntu.com sites)
[02:16] <bddebian> LP seems OK to me
[02:16] <crimsun> seems a bit sluggish, but I can't tell whether that's due to current wifi traffic
[02:16] <ajmitch> seems fast enough for me
[02:16] <jmg> cant search ubuntu-devel from google groups :(
[02:17] <bddebian> Gads, some of these bug reports are just funky
[02:18] <crimsun> jmg: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel
[02:18] <crimsun> if you think it's bad now, just wait til dapper releases
[02:18] <crimsun> we're going to have loads of fun
[02:19] <bddebian> Why, our job it done after release ;-P
[02:19] <chillywilly> hi
[02:20] <bddebian> Heya chillywilly
[02:20] <crimsun> if you don't work with/aren't upstream, sure ;)
[02:20] <bddebian> crimsun: I'm nobody :-)
[02:20] <chillywilly> bddebian: you're somebody to me :)
[02:21] <bddebian> chillywilly: Aww, thanks d00d :-)
[02:51] <bddebian> Egads, vnc4 is 26 Mb
[02:53] <ajmitch> sure, it probably has a bunch of xfree86 source in it
[02:53] <trappist> if I attach a debdiff to a bug in a universe package, I can assign it to motu-reviewers?
[02:54] <bddebian> trappist: Sure
[02:55] <trappist> ossum.  and that's motu-reviewers@tauware.de ?
[03:14] <jmg> why cant i edit a spec on lp? says permission denied
[03:17] <bddebian> A spec?
[03:18] <jmg> bddebian: specifications
[03:19] <bddebian> jmg: I know what spec means, I didn't get the context for LP :-)
[03:20] <bddebian> ajmitch: Is vnc4 unfixable?
[03:20] <jmg> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/xen-enabled-kernel
[03:20] <bddebian> Ohh
[03:26] <bddebian> Heya Hobbsee
[03:26] <jmg> heh, rename is disabled.
[03:28] <StevenK> That took some doing.
[03:28] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:28] <StevenK> bddebian: vnc4 is *hard* to fix.
[03:28] <Tm_T> bashing, wheee!
[03:28] <Tm_T> me too, me too!
[03:29] <StevenK> bddebian: It contains parts of XFree86 in its source tree.
[03:29] <bddebian> StevenK: OK thx, I'll assign it to ajmitch then ;-P
[03:29] <StevenK> bddebian: I spent the better part of two hours looking at it, and gave up in disgust.
[03:30] <Hobbsee> haha...ajmitch will love that...
[03:32] <StevenK> I don't like my chances, though.
[03:34] <bddebian> I looked at that one.  Didn't touch it :-)
[03:35] <nictuku> hi I have made a patch for bug #41123 should I send it to revu?
[03:35] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 41123 in smart "wrong default channel for dapper " [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/41123
[03:35] <nictuku> I mean, send the updated package
[03:36] <bddebian> nictuku: I would prefer the patch on LP, but that's just my worthless personal opinion :-)
[03:36] <StevenK> bddebian: Well, I'm going to try a rebuild, and see what that does.
[03:36] <nictuku> should I update the changlog too?
[03:37] <bddebian> nictuku: Yes
[03:38] <nictuku> ok, done, sent the patch to LP. who should I talk to to merge that? :-)
[03:38] <nictuku> mvo?
[03:38] <StevenK> Someone who to can upload to universe? :-)
[03:40] <nictuku> motu's, please consider merging this. smartpm is cool and deserves working default settings :-)
[03:40] <bddebian> nictuku: If it's a universe packages, I'll try to take a look after fceu finishes building
[03:40] <nictuku> bddebian, thank you
[03:40] <nictuku> yes it's a universe package
[03:41] <bddebian> I'm here to serve! :-)
[03:41] <bddebian> Even though crimsun hates me ;-P
[03:42] <Hobbsee> hehe...poor bddebian
[03:42] <Hobbsee> StevenK: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-February/000545.html
[03:44] <StevenK> Hobbsee: I found the wiki page about one minute ago. :-P
[03:44] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:45] <bddebian> nictuku: Trying now
[03:53] <bddebian> OK fceu sucks
[03:54] <jmg> heh
[03:55] <bddebian> OK, you folks are killing my Morrowind time
[03:55] <bddebian> nictuku: Uploaded
[03:56] <nictuku> :-) nice!
[03:56] <bddebian> nictuku: I have marked the bug as Fix Committed.  Watch for it and close the bug as Fix Released.  Thanks!
[03:58] <bddebian> uh-oh
[03:59] <jmg> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenEnabledKernelDraft <- thoughts, comments?
[04:00] <nictuku> there is also bug #26601 but i don't know if the patch applies anymore
[04:00] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 26601 in bittornado bittornado-gui "btdownloadgui crashes on startup" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/26601
[04:01] <bddebian> nictuku: Oh, so now I'm your slave? ;-)
[04:02] <ajmitch> bddebian: is that a change from normal?
[04:02] <nictuku> bddebian, *you* volunteered to be a MOTU :-)
[04:02] <bddebian> ajmitch: No :-)
[04:04] <nictuku> I don't know how the repositories updates work, but now that the change was uploaded, when is it expected to be in the universe? Is there a daily update or so?
[04:04] <imbrandon> heya guys who/where do i need to talk to about getting a fubuntu-desktop going, i've get a meta package and respitory foing right now but i'm talking aobut "officialy" ( fubuntu being fluxbox desktop for mini ram mini mhz machines )
[04:04] <bddebian> nictuku: Should be there in a couple hours unless the buildds are extremely busy
[04:04] <nictuku> bddebian, ah ok
[04:06] <nictuku> jmg, /me likes that spec
[04:06] <bddebian> nictuku: Can't touch that one, it's main.  Sorry
[04:07] <nictuku> oh
[04:07] <nictuku> forgot about that
[04:07] <nictuku> sorry
[04:07] <jmg> imbrandon: Add a spec for edgy on launchpad
[04:08] <jmg> imbrandon: and discuss on ubuntu-devel
[04:08] <imbrandon> ok thanks , just wasent sure what direction to head, that gives me a starting point
[04:19] <nictuku> ahmm bddebian said "... and close the bug as Fix Released". It's not the time to close it yet, but I couldnt find the option for fixing/closing/changing status of a bug. do I have access to that?
[04:20] <nictuku> should I use reportbug or malone is fine?
[04:20] <bddebian> nictuku: Click on the bug title (package name) hyperlink
[04:20] <bddebian> But I haven't gotten an accepted message yet either?? Hmm
[05:10] <zakame> hi all
[05:10] <imbrandon> evening
[05:10] <zakame> hello imbrandon
[05:14] <bddebian> Heya zakame
[05:14] <zakame> hello bddebian
[05:35] <bddebian> wb LaserJock :-)
[05:35] <crimsun> bddebian: fix my bugz kthx
[05:35] <bddebian> crimsun: Gimme some, I'll try
[05:35] <crimsun> bddebian: take any of them with alsa-lib in the source package :-)
[05:36] <bddebian> alsa.. Ugh :-)
[05:36] <crimsun> :-)
[05:36] <bddebian> Got an example?
[05:36] <crimsun> you could probably search and find one faster than I can load Opera atm
[05:37] <bddebian> OK
[05:37] <bddebian> crimsun: Hey, want access to a faster box to build on?
[05:37] <crimsun> is it ppc or amd64?
[05:37] <bddebian> Oh, i386 sorry
[05:38] <bddebian> If I keep at this Ubuntu thing, I may get one of each though ;-P
[05:39] <crimsun> cool :)
[05:39] <crimsun> I'm good on ia32, but thanks for offering :)
[05:40] <bddebian> I used to have a bunch of PowerBooks but I gave them all away to GNU and Hurd folks :-(
[05:40] <bddebian> I've got an old crappy Wallstreet II laying around here somewhere
[05:46] <LaserJock> I've got a x86 mac but that doesn't help :(
[05:46] <LaserJock> sometimes I wish I had ordered it a week before
[05:50] <bddebian> crimsun: alsa stuff is going to be main though isn't it?
[05:50] <crimsun> bddebian: yep
[05:51] <bddebian> hmm
[05:53] <crimsun> most of the alsa-lib ones are "thinking" options. I'm debating whether to propose a change to src:gnome-control-center so that if the normal name string selector (System> Preferences> Sound> default sound card) doesn't work, it will fall back to using the old Breezy-style index
[05:54] <crimsun> (currently alsa-lib accepts both ``asoundconf list'' syntax and the old Breezy-style index)
[05:55] <crimsun> granted the new Dapper way is much more flexible, but it fails on some serious cases, whereas the old Breezy-style index always works [but you run the risk of the id changing underneath you when you reboot] 
[05:59] <bddebian> Ah, hmm
[05:59] <crimsun> yeah, "lesser of two evils" deal. The trick is masking it from the user.
[06:00] <bddebian> Hmm, kinda like voting here in the US ;-P
[06:01] <crimsun> heh :p
[06:02] <LaserJock> bddebian: what? people vote? ;-)
[06:02] <bddebian> LaserJock: Well, not FOR anything, just against things :-)
[06:16] <Lathiat> we all ok to upload atm?
[06:17] <crimsun> yes
[06:21] <bddebian> Hasn't stopped me. :-)
[06:22] <ajmitch> nothing would stop you, bddebian
[06:22] <Lathiat> guys - i did somethign before wher ei could view a diff
[06:23] <Lathiat> highlighting changes at a sub-line level
[06:23] <Lathiat> anyone knwo what it was? :)
[06:23] <ajmitch> wdiff
[06:23] <Lathiat> ah it is wdiff?
[06:23] <Lathiat> that'l show an existing patch?
[06:23] <ajmitch> when used in conjunction with other stuff, sure
[06:23] <bddebian> ajmitch: :-)
[06:23] <ajmitch> I think debdiff has an option to use wdiff
[06:23] <Lathiat> hrm
[06:24] <Lathiat> yeh
[06:24] <Lathiat> maybe thats what i was doing
[06:27] <Lathiat> is anyone else having issues getting to archive.u.c intermittenly?
[06:28] <Lathiat> in fact i seeem to be having intermitten issues to the canonical stuff in general
[06:28] <Lathiat> launchpad is haibitually timing out too
[06:42] <bddebian> Bedtime for Bonzo.  Gnight folks
[07:22] <keel> what is that took ubuntu so long until it got a functional installation/live cd? why was it not possible to simply import knoppix technology? (i am not complaining or rhetoricizing, i really am very much interested in understanding what makes such cooperation impossible in the world of open source.)
[07:42] <franck> Hi all motu
[07:42] <franck> I have two packages I made for mandriva and I'd like to see them included in ubuntu... How to go about that?
[07:43] <franck> the packages do not need compile, it is php script and data
[07:43] <franck> the packages name are tikiwiki and tikiwiki-mapdata they require php4-mapscript which is in universe
[07:43] <crimsun> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUNewSoftware
[07:46] <franck> crimsun: thanks.... tikiwiki is #5 most popular php application as per freshmeat ;)
[07:57] <dholbach> good morning motu world
[08:01] <Tm_T> dholbach: nooooooo
[08:02] <dholbach> Tm_T: the sun is shining... :-)
[08:02] <Tm_T> dholbach: it is, been shining directly to my monitor last 4 hours
[08:02] <dholbach> hmmmm nice
[08:03] <Tm_T> indeed, can't really tell what happens in black spots =)
[08:05] <ajmitch> hi dholbach, Tm_T
[08:05] <dholbach> after my last appartment, I enjoy every ray of sun and didn't think of buying blinds yet
[08:05] <dholbach> hi ajmitch
[08:06] <Tm_T> ajmitch: heya
[08:07] <Tm_T> dholbach: ugh, as soon as I get enough money for laptop and wifi I'll sit out there ircin'
[08:07] <Tm_T> sun is down ~6h in day, but its dark only few night hours
[08:07] <dholbach> haha! Tm_T: good thinking - it's just they're building in front of my house - so no summer love on the balcony yet
[08:08] <Tm_T> and birds... start around 0430 :p
[08:20] <dholbach> StevenK: relax
[08:20] <dholbach> I'm just going through the unread ones I have. This very moment.
[08:21] <ajmitch> hello StevenK
[08:21] <StevenK> dholbach: Heh
[08:21] <dholbach> StevenK: is there a upstream changelog?
[08:22] <dholbach> hm, doesnt seem so
[08:22] <StevenK> dholbach: Not that I could see, but the upstream version doesn't change.
[08:22] <dholbach> oh
[08:22] <dholbach> then you don't need a uvf
[08:22] <dholbach> ...exception
[08:22] <StevenK> I don't?
[08:22] <dholbach> no
[08:22] <dholbach> UPSTREAM version freeze
[08:23] <dholbach> not DEBIAN version freez :-p
[08:23] <dholbach> just subscribe ubuntu-archive and get it synced
[08:23] <StevenK> So, I just need to ask for a sync.
[08:23] <dholbach> yeah
[08:23] <dholbach> and thanks for working that out
[08:25] <StevenK> dholbach: Sorry for a being a dill. :-)
[08:25] <dholbach> StevenK: not at all
[08:26] <ajmitch> StevenK: we won't make fun of you at all ;)
[08:27] <StevenK> Heh
[08:46] <sivang> re all
[09:04] <highvoltage> make love, not war
[09:05] <StevenK> It will always add -fPIC, or never add it. I can't force it to behave how I want it to.
[09:25] <Tm_T> hummm
[10:05] <adu> i tried Ubuntu Live today
[10:05] <adu> :)
[10:05] <adu> it was good
[10:06] <Hobbsee> ooh fun!
[10:12] <Mithrandir> hi Hobbsee
[10:12] <Mithrandir> and hi ajmitch
[10:13] <ajmitch> hello Mithrandir
[10:18] <Hobbsee> beat you :P
[10:18] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: I'm still not very tickly. :-)
[10:18] <Hobbsee> :(
[10:22] <freeflying> any administrator of revu around ?
[10:23] <ajmitch> freeflying: what's wrong?
[10:24] <freeflying> ajmitch: transfer error  due to the damn network here , :)
[10:24] <Gloubiboulga> Hello
[10:25] <ajmitch> freeflying: ok
[10:25] <freeflying> ajmitch: please delete the diveintopython-zh on revu, I can not finish upload
[10:25] <freeflying> ajmitch: thx
[10:25] <ajmitch> done
[11:45] <zakame> hi all
[11:45] <Gloubiboulga> hey zakame :)
[11:46] <zakame> hello Gloubiboulga
[11:46] <zakame> what's up?
[11:47] <Gloubiboulga> today's the day zakame, I'll apply for MOTUness at today's TB :)
[11:48] <zakame> Gloubiboulga: woohoo! :D
[11:50] <Gloubiboulga> :)
[11:50] <zakame> Gloubiboulga: I'm not sure if I can attend the TB, I'll sure hope that $DEITY bless $you => $MOTU
[11:51] <Gloubiboulga> hehe, thanks
[12:01] <zakame> woohoo LP is down :D
[12:02] <zakame> and so am I :D
[12:33] <Lathiat> tseng: ping?
[12:41] <tseng> Lathiat: pong
[01:23] <sivang> slomo__: ping
[01:23] <sivang> slomo__: did you have a chance to look at the freshened package?
[01:23] <\sh> moins
[01:23] <sivang> moins \sh , how are you?
[01:24] <\sh> back at work :) and a burning brain already :)
[01:24] <Gloubiboulga> hey \sh
[01:24] <sivang> \sh: I heared Advil can do wonders :)
[01:25] <\sh> sivang: :)) well, I just read a totally cluttered cfengine configuration :) no wonder that I'm feeling terrible :)
[01:25] <ogra> \sh, just dont touch cfengine ... its evil
[01:26] <ogra> :)
[01:26] <ogra> use plain preseeding ;)
[01:26] <\sh> ogra: too late...I'm integrating now cfengine into fai :)
[01:26] <ogra> eeek
[01:27] <ogra> ... and doesnt use cfengine :)
[01:27] <sivang> \sh: heh
[01:28] <\sh> ogra: my order is to install sles9/10 automatically via fai from a debian system :)
[01:28] <ogra> *shudder*
[01:28] <ogra> tell them to use a real OS then ;)
[01:30] <sivang> ogra: I tried to tell people to do that, but they're still stuck with the notion that SLES/RHEL are enterprise grade distros.
[01:30] <ogra> heh, yes
[01:31] <\sh> tbh, the problem is, as long there is no oracle certification of debian or ubuntu, redhat and novell/suse will have the advantages
[01:31] <\sh> that's why they are using suse here :(
[01:35] <sivang> \sh: I hope Oracle certification will come promptly :-)
[01:36] <\sh> sivang: which would be more then cool :)
[01:36] <ogra> its pretty likely
[01:37] <sivang> indeed. I don't think they will let IBM be there alone for long time
[01:37] <\sh> depends, what larry will do about his idea of buying an OS :)
[01:37] <sivang> hehe
[01:38] <sivang> \sh: this is not official anyways, no?
[01:38] <sivang> (his idea of buying an OS etc)
[01:38] <\sh> sivang: well, his mind is ill, so it can be real in no time... ;)
[01:38] <sivang> hehehe
[01:39] <sivang> \sh: he should go to another sail around the world and come back well :)
[01:40] <sivang> do you guys have an idea how I can query programtically for file extension which are supposed to be media files, rather then including a hard coded list of those?
[01:40] <sivang> (doing that from python, ofcourse)
[01:40] <\sh> sivang: actually for Oracle an OS is the last coup they can do :)
[01:43] <sivang> \sh: it's not like they're in trouble or something..no? why would they need a last coup ?
[01:46] <\sh> because of MS and RedHat :) .... MS has everything from several OS to databases and application server business applications...redhat has an OS, with jboss also application server for business applications, oracle just has application server, databases and the business applications (like SAP)
[01:51] <siretart> \sh: I'm quite comfortable and happy with cfengine2
[01:52] <siretart> \sh: we used FAI in the past, but switched to d-i preseeding
[01:52] <\sh> siretart: as I said, I don't install d-i based systems...I adjusted fai like this, that it can install any os I like :) right now, it's been a suse rollout :)
[01:53] <\sh> configuration management will be included with cfengine2, directly into fai..so there is only one master console for this stuff
[01:53] <\sh> means, all configuration which is application dependant, not os dependant
[01:59] <siretart> \sh: sounds challanging :)
[02:34] <zul> heylo
[03:11] <vud1> hi moe_evil
[03:11] <vud1> hi "r" u
[03:11] <moe_evil> hi vud1 ;)
[03:37] <bddebian> Heya gang
[03:37] <Hobbsee> hi bddebian
[03:38] <bddebian> Hi Hobbsee
[03:47] <tritium> thanks for your reply, and for forwarding my bug report to the evolution team, dholbach!
[03:47] <zakame> hi all
[03:47] <tritium> hi zakame
[03:47] <bddebian> Heya zakame, tritium
[03:47] <zakame> hi tritium bddebian! :D
[03:49] <VincentMX> is it hard to become packager?
[03:49] <VincentMX> do i need a fast pc?
[03:49] <tritium> hi bddebian!
[03:50] <zakame> VincentMX: nope, all you need is LOTS of love :)
[03:50] <VincentMX> i'ver got that
[03:50] <zakame> coolness, I just helped track an LP bug :)
[03:50] <bddebian> And time :-)
[03:50] <VincentMX> only i don't hjave lots of people who love me as well
[03:50] <trappist> if I assign a bug to the motu reviewers team, it's motu-reviewers@tauware.de in lp?
[03:51] <bddebian> VincentMX: Well you'll fit in fine with me then :-)
[03:51] <zakame> trappist: @lists.tauware.de iirc
[03:51] <bddebian> I'm well disliked in #ubuntu-devel ;-P
[03:51] <dholbach> just   'motu-reviewers'  is fine too
[03:51] <VincentMX> ok
[03:51] <zakame> lol
[03:51] <trappist> dholbach: assignee not found if I do that
[03:51] <viviersf> k right
[03:52] <dholbach> motureviewers?
[03:52] <viviersf> does any1 know if pykde works on dapper by any chance ?
[03:53] <trappist> ok here, can any motus, especially those running amd64, have a look at bug 41207 ?
[03:53] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 41207 in libast "Eterm built against libast on amd64 has its buffer filled with garbage" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/41207
[03:53] <Hobbsee> what's the chances of make getting updated for dapper?  this is the changelog http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/cbngtd43.html
[03:54] <StevenK> Hobbsee: What bugs does it fix?
[03:54] <Hobbsee> StevenK: i'm not sure, it's being asked about in #ubuntu - i dont really understand much of the changelog..
[03:56] <StevenK> Hobbsee: Um. It depends on the case made to the MOTU UVF peoples. I'm not seeing anything in the changelog that is jumping out at me and saying, "Hey! I should be fixed in Dapper."
[03:57] <zul> Hobbsee: i was going to upload the patch tonight
[03:57] <zakame> hmm, probably too late
[03:57] <Hobbsee> zul: ah okay :)
[03:57] <zakame> oh, great then :)
[03:57] <zul> zakame: its an amd64 patch for libast
[03:57] <godrik> hi
[03:57] <godrik> i was asking on #ubuntu for an update of make 3.8.1b4 to make 3.8.1
[03:57] <Hobbsee> godrik: yes, [23:57]  <zul> Hobbsee: i was going to upload the patch tonight
[03:57] <godrik> it seems that the release fixs bugs about function included by all make 3.8.1* like eval function
[03:57] <Hobbsee> just found out
[03:58] <godrik> that cool! :)
[03:58] <zakame> zul: oh I thought it was for make
[03:58] <godrik> it is tonight in the USA ?
[03:58] <zul> zakame: noope libast
[03:58] <StevenK> godrik: No, it's the morning.
[03:59] <godrik> so the new version of make will be included in 18H (more or less) ?
[03:59] <zakame> zul: indeed
[03:59] <zul> godrik: check on #ubuntu-devel i think make is in main
[03:59] <StevenK> make is certainly in main.
[04:00] <StevenK> However, I doubt it will get included in Dapper.
[04:00] <zakame> Hobbsee: I don't see a make update coming, there isn't much bugs except malone 35570
[04:00] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 35570 in make "SEGV in hash set code" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/35570
[04:00] <zakame> 2 rejected, 2 fixrel
[04:00] <StevenK> There are a lot of code changes, and nothing I can see that is a real show-stopper, including the eval functions.
[04:00] <godrik> thank you
[04:00] <StevenK> (I can't see that they've changed at all, given the changelog)
[04:05] <zakame> besides, make is quite a heavy package, from a packager's perspective, since it has its own build system hand-crafted by Manoj
[04:05] <tuxmaniac> heya bddebian
[04:06] <bddebian> Hi tuxmaniac, how's it going?
[04:06] <tuxmaniac> bddebian: Seems like the scilab bug has been transferred?
[04:07] <bddebian> tuxmaniac: Yes, it's a pango/defoma issue
[04:09] <StevenK> zakame: Heh, yes.
[04:10] <zakame> StevenK: and, with the current goings-on, I think touching make wouldn't be such a good idea for now :/
[04:12] <zakame> o-oh, speaking of that...
[04:13] <zakame> indeed
[04:14] <tseng> I met manoj last year
[04:14] <tseng> a real character
[04:15] <bddebian> heh
[04:15] <StevenK> I wouldn't suggest touching make unless one had to.
[04:15] <StevenK> I was so tempted to put "make is my bitch" in a comment in debian/rules earlier today.
[04:15] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:15] <zakame> I would, however, suggest looking into make, or any Manoj package, for that matter, for the learning experience :)
[04:15] <zakame> lol
[04:16] <StevenK> ifeq ($(DEB_HOST_ARCH), $(findstring $(DEB_HOST_ARCH),$(sort amd64 ia64)))
[04:21] <bddebian> StevenK: :)
[04:21] <bddebian> Heya highvoltage
[04:21] <highvoltage> hi bddebian!
[04:21] <highvoltage> how are things?
[04:22] <Hobbsee> StevenK: sleep's overrated
[04:22] <bddebian> Drowning man, you? :-)
[04:22] <ajmitch> StevenK: sleep already?
[04:24] <bddebian> crimsun: Did you say alsa-driver bugs are yours?
[04:39] <crimsun> bddebian: generally, yes. Assign them to the linux-source-2.6.15 source package, no need to assign them to me directly since I'll be subscribed automatically.
[05:12] <zakame> wb everyone
[05:13] <slomo__> sivang: pong?
[05:14] <bddebian> Heya slomo__
[05:14] <slomo__> bddebian: hi :)
[05:14] <zakame> gn8 all! :D
[05:16] <bddebian> Ack, why do #u-devel hate me.. :'-(
[05:16] <bddebian> s/do/does/
[05:18] <slomo__> bddebian: nobody hates you
[05:18] <bddebian> slomo__: Yes they do.  I'm an irritant :-)
[05:21] <sivang> slomo__: hey :)
[05:21] <sivang> bddebian: because you break stuff ? ;-)
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[05:21] <bddebian> :-)
[05:26] <trappist> before I say something in #-devel I try to formulate my statement carefully, run it by a few peers and proofreaders, ensure syntactical and political correctness, and have the statement blessed by a priest and a rabbi
[05:26] <slomo__> trappist: as long as everybody understands what the reporter wants to say :)
[05:28] <trappist> but if I wanna say something in #c I'm *really* careful.
[05:39] <sivang> slomo__: had any chance to review my freshly uploaded package?
[05:40] <slomo__> sivang: i'll do it after poking a bit at tomboy :) are will you be away in some minutes?
[05:40] <bddebian> libguichan0 is broken?
[05:40] <jpatrick> sivang: I could, if you want
[05:42] <slomo__> sivang: what was the problem with intltool btw?
[05:43] <bddebian> WTH is xlibmesa-gl-dev these days?
[05:45] <bddebian> Oh, shoot, "lunch meeting" :-(
[05:45] <sivang> slomo__: build does not exist at some points of the invocation
[05:45] <sivang> slomo__: mvo confirmed it and it can be safely ignored
[05:45] <sivang> jpatrick: feel free, search for upbackup on revu
[05:45] <sivang> jpatrick: I will thank you
[05:45] <sivang> slomo__: I will be away in some mintues, going to fetch something to eat and heading home
[05:46] <slomo__> sivang: ok, you'll get my advocation later probably :)
[05:47] <sivang> slomo__: well, when I reach home in about an hour I can ping you back
[05:47] <slomo__> sivang: ok :)
[05:47] <sivang> jpatrick: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2305
[05:47] <sivang> slomo__: cool
[05:48] <jpatrick> sivang: running revu-report now
[05:50] <sivang> jpatrick: cool, thanks
[05:50] <jpatrick> done now
[05:50] <slomo__> sivang: ok, looking at it now :)
[05:51] <slomo__> sivang: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/upbackup-0604241910/upbackup_0.0.1_all.lintian please fix
[05:52] <slomo__> dpkg-source: error: file upbackup_0.0.1.tar.gz has size 40190 instead of expected 40215
[05:52] <slomo__> hmm
[05:52] <sivang> huh?
[05:52] <sivang> how come we didn't see this yesterday?
[05:52] <slomo__> i guess you didn't run lintian on the binary package but only on the source package
[05:53] <sivang> okay, I will remove the shebangs form those:
[05:53] <sivang> : upbackup: script-not-executable ./usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/UPBackup/GUI/upbackup.py
[05:53] <sivang> W: upbackup: script-not-executable ./usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/UPBackup/GUI/uprestore.py
[05:53] <sivang> since they are not menat to be executed
[05:53] <sivang> and will dechmod 755 __init__.py
[05:54] <sivang> sorry, that is not chmod +x on __init__.py
[05:55] <slomo__> let's hope the broken tarball is fixed after uploading the new version ;)
[05:56] <sivang> oh, man, I can't upload to revu here, as I don't have my kkey
[05:57] <sivang> I will have to go home and fix it from there, or are you willing to review outside to revu?
[05:57] <slomo__> i don't really care ;)
[05:57] <sivang> okay, so I will let you fetch it from the alternative location
[05:58] <sivang> and will fix this now quickly , okay?
[05:58] <slomo__> sure
[06:04] <sivang> W: There is no debian/watch in this package. Although this is not compulsory, it helps maintaining the package properly.
[06:04] <sivang> heh, it thinks this is not a native pakcage :)
[06:07] <slomo__> sivang: linda?
[06:08] <sivang> slomo__: not sure, it's in http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/upbackup-0604241910/revu-orig.report
[06:08] <sivang> slomo__: anyway, new package is up
[06:08] <sivang> slomo__: http://mercury.linuxguru.net/~sivan/HUB/
[06:08] <slomo__> sivang: maybe the script creating it is broken... native pacakges can't include a watch file... it would be pointless
[06:08] <hub> someone call me?
[06:08] <slomo__> poor hub
[06:09] <sivang> slomo__: at least the package name is upbackup, but in any case I need to change it to hubackup
[06:10] <slomo__> sivang: so better change this before we upload anything ;)
[06:10] <sivang> slomo__: hmm
[06:11] <sivang> ;-)
[06:11] <sivang> hmm, actually probably only in contorl file no?
[06:12] <slomo__> sivang: control and changelog, maybe copyright... and everywhere else in your sources,etc where you use the old name ;)
[06:12] <sivang> slomo__: I am not going to chagne it in the sources, it will stay UPBackup as the python package name
[06:13] <sivang> slomo__: maybe for next release :) it might have a different name anyhow
[06:13] <sivang> slomo__: anyway, how do we stand wrt packaging quality now?
[06:14] <slomo__> well
[06:14] <slomo__> whiprush: upbackup: script-not-executable ./usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/UPBackup/GUI/upbackup.py
[06:14] <slomo__> whiprush: upbackup: script-not-executable ./usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/UPBackup/GUI/uprestore.py
[06:14] <slomo__> whiprush: upbackup: executable-not-elf-or-script ./usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/UPBackup/backend/__init__.py
[06:14] <slomo__> damn, sorry whiprush :(
[06:15] <slomo__> other than that the package is perfect
[06:15] <sivang> slomo__: weird, I just removed all the shebang lines from up*.py
[06:15] <sivang> slomo__: and do not chmod +x on *.py anymore, but rather
[06:15] <sivang> ah!
[06:16] <sivang> damn
[06:16] <sivang> i bzr branch to buikld,
[06:16] <sivang> and forgot to commit the changes
[06:17] <slomo__> hehe
[06:20] <sivang> slomo__: okay, try again ( I won't paste again to not bug h u b )
[06:23] <sivang> sladen: yay, you're back :)
[06:23] <sivang> sladen: and muse as well :)
[06:24] <sladen> broken terminal server and a fsck question
[06:24] <sivang> sladen: ah, I see. so it just hung and waited for response
[06:24] <sivang> poor muse
[06:25] <sladen> yes, 4 days of hell for a few people
[06:25] <jpatrick> hi sladen
[06:25] <sivang> slomo__: okay, okay, what broke this time? :-) (taking by the time it takes you to respond)
[06:25] <slomo__> sivang: oh, i was writing a mail and didn't notice that the build finished, sorry ;)
[06:26] <slomo__> sivang: the package is perfect now... upload this to revu later, ping me, get someone else to review and then it could be uploaded :)
[06:26] <sivang> slomo__: yay thanks
[06:26] <sivang> jpatrick: you're up?
[06:27] <sivang> slomo__: must I go through revu before it uploaded to universe?
[06:27] <jpatrick> sivang: ok, I'm on it
[06:27] <slomo__> sivang: well... if we get this reviewed here by two motu it is fine too :)
[06:28] <sivang> slomo__: cool :)
[06:29] <sivang> slomo__ , jpatrick : anyway, I'm out , let me know if it got uploaded :)
[06:30] <jpatrick> ok
[06:30] <slomo__> jpatrick: ok so ping me when you finished the review :)
[06:30] <slomo__> jpatrick: or just upload it
[06:31] <sivang> ah , that's better
[06:31] <sivang> anyway, now out for real. laters dudes, and thanks alot!
[06:31] <slomo__> sivang: wasn't this a dapper goal btw?
[06:31] <slomo__> ok, bye bye :)
[06:34] <jpatrick> slomo__: doing so
[06:37] <jpatrick> slomo__, sivang: ok done
[06:37] <slomo__> jpatrick: uploaded?
[06:37] <jpatrick> yes
[06:38] <slomo__> cool, thanks
[07:24] <LaserJock> tuxmaniac: ping?
[07:24] <tuxmaniac> LaserJock: pong
[07:25] <LaserJock> tuxmaniac: what are you doing with xcircuit?
[07:25] <tuxmaniac> LaserJock: Why? there had been a upstream release!
[07:26] <tuxmaniac> LaserJock: And I upgraded the package!
[07:26] <tuxmaniac> LaserJock: Why anything wrong?
[07:27] <LaserJock> tuxmaniac: no, I wasn't mad, I just say bug #6266 was assigned to you and it was "in progress"
[07:27] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 6266 in xcircuit "xcircuit version is old" [Normal,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6266
[07:27] <tuxmaniac> LaserJock: It has been uploaded
[07:27] <tuxmaniac> LaserJock: To revu for review!
[07:27] <LaserJock> ahh, ok. URL?
[07:28] <tuxmaniac> LaserJock: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2302
[07:31] <LaserJock> hi raphink
[07:31] <raphink> hi
[07:32] <caravena> raphink: hi
[07:37] <G0SUB> LaserJock: hello!
[07:38] <Tonio_> raphink: je viens finalement ;)
[07:38] <raphink> quand ?
[07:39] <LaserJock> G0SUB: hi!
[07:39] <G0SUB> LaserJock: how are you?
[07:39] <G0SUB> LaserJock: I am stuck up with exams here :(
[07:40] <LaserJock> G0SUB: I'm busy, busy, busy :-)
[07:40] <LaserJock> G0SUB: btw, I just added tuxmaniac to MOTUScience
[07:41] <G0SUB> LaserJock: excellent. he is very enthusiastic about electronics packages
[07:42] <bddebian> LaserJock: Nice
[07:42] <LaserJock> unfortunately, I feel like I should remove a couple people though :/
[07:42] <LaserJock> or something
[07:43] <bddebian> LaserJock: Oh, you going to remove me are you? ;-P
[07:43] <tritium> LaserJock: :(
[07:43] <LaserJock> bddebian: I can't remove you. you haven't even joined :-)
[07:43] <bddebian> :-)
[07:43] <LaserJock> tritium: not you ;-)
[07:43] <tritium> LaserJock: Oh, thanks ;)
[07:44] <LaserJock> maybe I just need to get the other members pumped up
[07:44] <G0SUB> LaserJock: then who? /me ?
[07:44] <LaserJock> G0SUB: no
[07:45] <bddebian> Go LaserJock go
[07:46] <LaserJock> the thing is, I was thinking of taking a Ubuntu leave of absence after today
[07:46] <bddebian> WHAT
[07:46] <bddebian> ??
[07:47] <G0SUB> LaserJock: for how many days?
[07:47] <LaserJock> well, my PhD has sort of been delayed and I have a lot to take care of at home
[07:48] <bddebian> Stupid fscking shlib deps
[07:49] <tuxmaniac> heya bddebian ! am back
[07:50] <bddebian> :-)
[07:50] <LaserJock> I think what I might do is go away from IRC for a bit
[07:53] <tritium> LaserJock: nobody can blame a guy for trying to finish his degree on time :)
[07:54] <LaserJock> tritium: well, the big problem is that my wife really needs to be in a different state, and I feel bad for holding her back as long as I am
[07:57] <tritium> LaserJock: I can relate to that as well.  You need to do what's best for your wife and your self.
[07:57] <LaserJock> anyway, IRC seems to be a real time sink for me. I like helping people out, but I just don't get any real work done
[07:58] <LaserJock> so after today I'm going to try to minimize my IRC time and use email more for communication
[07:58] <LaserJock> I think that should also get ubuntu-science a little more pumped up :-)
[07:58] <bddebian> LaserJock: Bah, come on man, just drop out.. ;-P
[07:58] <azeem> LaserJock: :-/
[07:58] <LaserJock> bddebian: I've been doing this for 8 straight year (not even a summer off), it is too late to stop now :-)
[07:58] <truz24> LaserJock, so if your wife needs to be in a different state, you're moving?
[07:59] <bddebian> LaserJock: I'm kidding man
[07:59] <LaserJock> truz24: no, I'm trying to finish my PhD as fast  as I can
[07:59] <LaserJock> truz24: so then we can move
[07:59] <truz24> You can't finish your phd in the new state?
[08:00] <tritium> LaserJock: who's your advisor, so we can send him gifts?
[08:00] <truz24> (not sure if phd credits are transferrable)
[08:00] <LaserJock> truz24: well, that would take longer, I'd have to apply to a new university, etc.
[08:00] <truz24> I see.
[08:00] <truz24> So are you looking to teach?
[08:00] <tritium> LaserJock: gifts of persuasion for him to let you finish up ;)
[08:01] <LaserJock> anyway, I mean I'm not talking anything radical, but since UVF I've been doing about 10hr/day on Ubuntu
[08:01] <LaserJock> cutting back to 1-2 hr/day would really help
[08:02] <LaserJock> truz24: I'd like to
[08:02] <truz24> UVF?
[08:02] <LaserJock> January 19th I believe
[08:02] <LaserJock> Upstream Version Freeze
[08:02] <azeem> LaserJock: man, that's crazy
[08:03] <tritium> LaserJock: how do you get _any_ research done?
[08:03] <LaserJock> tritium: well, that's my point
[08:04] <tritium> LaserJock: a year ago this time, I did the same thing you're contemplating so I could finish up.
[08:04] <bddebian> LaserJock: And tritium hasn't been the same since ;-P
[08:04] <tritium> bddebian: sadly, you're right :(
[08:05] <bddebian> I can't talk.  I had to duck for a few months because of work so.. :-(
[08:05] <LaserJock> well, now that the Ubuntu Packaging Guide is done it is a little better (although people are starting up for the Edgy docs already)
[08:05] <LaserJock> but I've spread myself out so thin I can't get much of anything done
[08:05] <LaserJock> without spending insane hours on it
[08:07] <LaserJock> so I'm going to try to schedule my Ubuntu work, something like (1 hr MOTUScience, 1/2 hr Doc team, 1/2 hr other stuff)
[08:07] <LaserJock> that way, I can only spend 2 hrs/day on Ubuntu and I hope I can still get something done
[08:07] <azeem> (unless you stay on irc...) ;)
[08:08] <LaserJock> azeem: exactly
[08:08] <LaserJock> I'm an Ubuntu-aholic for sure
[08:11] <tritium> This is not good, having no alarms/notifications for calendar items on my Exchange account in evo...
[08:19] <LaserJock> tuxmaniac: btw, ubuntu-science us subscribed to all the MOTUScience bugs and bug on any MOTUScience package
[08:19] <LaserJock> s/us/is/
[08:19] <tuxmaniac> LaserJock: Ok
[08:23] <tuxmaniac> LaserJock: thanks.. I had a very tough time finding Science Packages related info! I should have joined the mailing list sometime back.. But neverthless not too late!
[08:25] <bddebian> tuxmaniac: New sear from Debian is unbuildable :-(
[08:25] <tuxmaniac> bddebian: Ugh! Maybe thats the reason why the package was not upgrade :P
[08:26] <bddebian> tuxmaniac: Yeah.  Well libguichan0 was broken but I fixed that.  But we don't have new enough versions of libires and libvarconf :-(
[08:26] <tuxmaniac> bddebian: How is such situations generally handled?
[08:27] <bddebian> Need sync/merge requests for the new libires and libvarconf from Debian
[08:27] <crimsun> if you need newer versions of libires and libvarconf to make sear buildable, make it so
[08:27] <bddebian> crimsun: Me?
[08:27] <crimsun> sure, why not?
[08:28] <bddebian> What the hell am I the one man bugfixing machine?? ;-P
[08:28] <crimsun> duh
[08:28] <tuxmaniac> Ubuntu turns to the best when something is needed and bddebian is the best at this :) Cmon!
[08:30] <tuxmaniac> Bye all
[08:30] <crimsun> 'night
[08:32] <bddebian> gah
[08:39] <phanatic> hi people
[08:39] <bddebian> Heya phanatic
[08:40] <phanatic> hey bddebian, Gloubiboulga, raphink :)
[08:40] <raphink> hi phanatic
[08:40] <Gloubiboulga> hi phanatic :)
[08:50] <sivang> re
[08:50] <sivang> hi all
[08:50] <sivang> slomo__: ping, was it uploaded?
[08:50] <slomo__> yes
[08:50] <sivang> yay!
[08:51] <slomo__> :)
[08:51] <sivang> ofcourse I need to work on more packages, and not only those I created ;-)
[08:53] <bddebian> wb sivang
[08:53] <sivang> hey bddebian
[08:55] <bddebian> sivang: Awesome, congrats
[08:57] <sivang> bddebian: :)
[08:57] <sivang> bddebian: I see you dealing with some merge bugs, are mergers still ongoing?
[08:58] <bddebian> I don't know, I'm just trying to fix shit :-(
[08:58] <wasabi> Heh. So I have no idea where buildd logs are now.
[08:59] <ogra> wasabi, LP
[08:59] <wasabi> Yeah, figured that.
[09:00] <wasabi> It have a nifty-cool new name?
[09:00] <wasabi> Found soyez...
[09:02] <wasabi> Ahh found the launchpad-buildd
[09:03] <wasabi> A hint woudl help. ;)
[09:04] <wasabi> Wiki will help! yay
[09:04] <LaserJock> wasabi: anybody can make a wiki page, *hint* ;-)
[09:04] <bddebian> heh
[09:05] <wasabi> Heh. Wiki points to lamonts stuff still.
[09:06] <wasabi> oooh. Launchpad is neat.
[09:08] <bddebian> Sometimes :-)
[09:09] <LaserJock> I really wish they would do some documentation
[09:14] <sivang> slomo__: can you plesae check if it's in the archive? I can't see it, and glaztor couldn't as well, maybe it didn't ge tout of new?
[09:15] <slomo__> sivang: it's in NEW and will stay there until someone looks at it... and when it's accepted it will be on dapper-changes
[09:16] <ogra> ususally Kamion and infinity process NEW ... infinity is ill
[09:18] <LaserJock> my last NEW went through today and it took 4 days, if that is any help
[09:21] <bddebian> What would we need for tuxmaniacs new xcirciut?  Is that a UVF exception?  It would be jumping Debian
[09:33] <LaserJock> hi \sh
[09:34] <\sh> moins motus :)
[09:34] <sivang> slomo__: If I create a subsequent version with fixes, can it be uploaded then and be proccessed instead of the previous NEWd pkg?
[09:34] <slomo__> sivang: yes
[09:35] <bddebian> Heya \sh
[09:53] <ryu> 11
[09:57] <bddebian> 12
[09:58] <LaserJock> 13, unlucky me :(
[09:59] <bddebian> heh
[09:59] <bddebian> I thought you were going to study or some shit? ;-P
[10:00] <LaserJock> lunch break
[10:00] <LaserJock> :-)
[10:52] <\sh> good night motus :) cu tomorrow :)
[11:07] <lifeless> morning all
[11:07] <bddebian> Heya lifeless
[11:07] <Gloubiboulga> congrats lifeless :)
[11:07] <bddebian> ?
[11:08] <ogra> bddebian, he's a MOTU since some minutes
[11:08] <dholbach> congratulations new MOTUs!
[11:09] <Gloubiboulga> thanks again dholbach :)
[11:10] <bddebian> Oh shit, did I miss a meeting?
[11:10] <bddebian> w00t, congrats lifeless
[11:11] <bddebian> Gloubiboulga: You too?
[11:11] <ogra> yep :)
[11:11] <Gloubiboulga> bddebian, yes :)
[11:12] <bddebian> Oh, awesome, congrats Gloubiboulga
[11:12] <Gloubiboulga> thanks bddebian
[11:13] <lifeless> bddebian: thanks
[11:13] <lifeless> thanks Gloubiboulga and congrats too
[11:14] <Gloubiboulga> thanks lifeless
[11:14] <bddebian> Now, both of you get to work :-)
[11:14] <Gloubiboulga> sir yes sir !
[11:32] <ajmitch> lifeless: good work
[11:33] <jmg> revu is broken, i cant retreive my password
[11:33] <jmg> once decrypted the password given by revu is "None"
[11:34] <ajmitch> have you uploaded a package there yet that got accepted?
[11:35] <jmg> ajmitch: no because i cant login :)
[11:35] <ajmitch> um
[11:35] <ajmitch> you upload first, and then login
[11:35] <jmg> oh ok
[11:36] <jmg> that's not clear at all, since there is no upload option on the front page
[11:36] <ajmitch> that's because you don't upload anything via the web interface
[11:36] <ajmitch> since that would be crackful
[11:36] <ajmitch> sue dput
[11:36] <bddebian> heh
[11:36] <ajmitch> use dput, that is
[11:37] <ajmitch> all on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU
[11:40] <lifeless> ajmitch: :)
[11:46] <bddebian> Later MOTUs
[11:59] <dholbach> night guys
[12:00] <jmg> uploading now
[12:00] <jmg> gah
[12:00] <jmg> missed him