[12:03] <Seantater> krenx: what are  you compiling?
[12:03] <HaxoR91> yes only totem
[12:03] <krenx> gimp
[12:03] <HaxoR91> how do i put the driver?
[12:03] <HaxoR91> show me a command so i can make it work
[12:03] <Seantater> HaxoR91: I'm afraid there is no real command that I know of..
[12:04] <HaxoR91> then how am i supposed to fix it?
[12:04] <Seantater> HaxoR91: Don;t ask me -- I;m not that knowledgeable.
[12:04] <Seantater> HaxoR91: Hoever, since it;s a GNOME program, you may have luck in #ubuntu
[12:05] <Seantater> krenx: Step 1: do you have build-essentials installed?
[12:05] <Seantater> krenx: sorry, not build-essnetials, build-essential
[12:06] <krenx> Seantater: yea, i have
[12:06] <ubuntu> long life kubuntu
[12:06] <Seantater> krenx: Tried any GUI compiliers (aka: kompile)
[12:06] <Seantater> ubuntu: Than how come your name is not _k_ubuntu
[12:06] <vge> krenx: gimp from repos is not for you?
[12:07] <ubuntu> ;)
[12:07] <krenx> dunno :P
[12:07] <ubuntu> sorry
[12:07] <krenx> Seantater: im trying to install gimp
[12:07] <Seantater> ubuntu: that's fine
[12:07] <vge> krenx: i just mean it's n+1 times easyer
[12:08] <Seantater> krenx: I know: why not just install the version from apt-get?
[12:08] <krenx> oh
[12:08] <Seantater> krenx: It's WAY easier that way
[12:08] <krenx> there is one, hehe
[12:08] <Seantater> !apt
[12:08] <ubotu> methinks apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[12:08] <Seantater> !synaptic
[12:08] <ubotu> I heard synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[12:08] <Seantater> !adept
[12:08] <ubotu> I guess adept is a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[12:08] <Seantater> krenx: You can use any of the above!
[12:09] <Seantater> krenx: It will make your life much easier!
[12:09] <krenx> Seantater: yea, its easyer but I learn from isntalling them myself too, I want to learn linux good since im getting 100 mbit and gonna setup a few game servers
[12:09] <Seantater> krenx: Wen you are done learning this (or perhaps _as_ you are learning it)
[12:10] <krenx> then what?
[12:10] <Seantater> krenx: #gentoo and the gentoo forums will be very helpful IMO
[12:10] <krenx> :)
[12:10] <krenx> I dont use gentoo
[12:10] <krenx> I use kubuntu
[12:11] <Seantater> krenx: I know; but they are very compile_from_source-ey people
[12:11] <vge> slackware frw
[12:11] <Seantater> krenx: If you want to be advanced or have an extremely fast computer, they are the people to talk to
[12:11] <krenx> Seantater: yea, ok
[12:11] <lilminimey06> anyone know how to get ipod working with amarok or even with kubuntu
[12:11] <lilminimey06> ?
[12:12] <sclarke> Has anyone had any success with FreeNX/NX on Dapper and AMD64?
[12:12] <Seantater> lilminimey06: Have you googled it? I'd imagine many people have tried this before
[12:12] <Seantater> sclarke: what is freeNX
[12:13] <imbrandon> sclarke, not on amd64 but i did it on dapper just fine with plain old x86
[12:13] <nico8481> lilminimey06: you shouldn't need to do anything to get it to work... do you have a recent version of amarok ?
[12:13] <lilminimey06> Seantater: i did, didnt find anything
[12:14] <lilminimey06> nico8481: have the lastes
[12:14] <sclarke> It's a version of teh X protocol that has excellent compression and nifty features like round trip supression.. in plain English it means you can run a full X seesion (e.g. a KDE desktop) over a low bandwidth link
[12:14] <Seantater> lilminimey06: have you search ubuntuforums.org, or wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:14] <Seantater> sclarke: Sounds neat, but is foreign to me..
[12:14] <sclarke> I have seen it run over a 60Kbps link and it was pretty responsive!
[12:15] <Seantater> sclarke: whay not a local X?
[12:15] <lilminimey06> Seantater: i know this sounds stupid, but searching is just not my thing:P
[12:15] <lilminimey06> I rather get help by chatting on irc
[12:15] <krenx> Seantater: You said "extremely fast computer". why should it be faster with gentoo ?
[12:15] <nico8481> well so it should work if you connect the ipod and then click on the "media device" tab of amarok... then "connect" (having selected the correct type of device: ipod [not "generic vfat"] ) and you should see its contents
[12:15] <sclarke> It means you can run a session from a machine somewhere else on the internet... because of the compression it's pretty much like being there
[12:15] <Seantater> krenx: because you have control over every nook and cranny
[12:16] <nico8481> lilminimey06: however i'm no expert... try joining #amarok :)
[12:16] <krenx> Seantater: isnt Gentoo like very hard too install/configure (especially if your new to linux)
[12:16] <lilminimey06> nico8481: ok, ill trie that, thanks anyway
[12:16] <Seantater> krenx: also, when programs are compiled on your computer, the C compiler compiler make it somwwhat more optimized
[12:17] <Seantater> krenx: To a newbie, yes, even to me, yes.. But then again, I;m all about eye-candy
[12:18] <Seantater> krenx: it really depends on what makes a difference to you -- Fast or Pretty/Easy..
[12:18] <krenx> so is Kubuntu a good dist too run gameservers on?
[12:19] <Seantater> krenx: What gameserver, and how many people
[12:19] <Seantater> krenx: if the bottleneck is your computer, Gentoo, if its the net, kubuntu should be fine
[12:20] <krenx> Seantater: quake2( maxclients 12), cs:s (max clients 32)
[12:21] <XVampireX> dapper is in beta, cool
[12:22] <Seantater> krenx: Can you give a test run? Ren a mem/cpu/net monitor and see which is more full?
[12:23] <krenx> Seantater: Im not gonna run them on this computer. im gonna buy another one and use as a server
[12:23] <krenx> or maybe even i buy a server when im more into this
[12:23] <krenx> *me loves sweden and their great cheap connections*
[12:24] <HaxoR91> so uhmm how do install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse?
[12:25] <Seantater> !multiverse
[12:25] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:25] <Seantater> Do you have the Multiverse repository on?
[12:25] <HaxoR91> i dont know
[12:27] <HaxoR91> how do i put it on?
[12:28] <lilminimey06> anyone want to help a guy getting completely ridd of amarok?
[12:28] <lilminimey06> apt-get remove doesnt work properly
[12:28] <krenx> HaxoR91: : click the K meny/system/package manager(adept)
[12:29] <krenx> i should just shutup, im new to this and trying to help ppl
[12:29] <krenx> Seantater: was it right? :P
[12:31] <lilminimey06> anyone
[12:31] <lilminimey06> how do i delete a program completely?
[12:31] <Seantater> krenx: not at all -- Linux is about choice -- whatever you do, you are allowed and encouraged to do, you just have to be stubborned and push through to learn
[12:32] <krenx> im stubborned enough for this
[12:32] <krenx> ive learned alot in one day
[12:32] <krenx> but i guess this never ends :)
[12:33] <imbrandon> i've been using linux since 96ish and still learin every day ;)
[12:33] <imbrandon> but you get the basics real fast ;)
[12:34] <imbrandon> lilminimey06, sudo apt-get --purge remove amarok
[12:35] <imbrandon> anyone know a program that enables alt-tab in fluxbox ?
[12:35] <krenx> sudo, what does "SO" stand for? i know what su stand for
[12:36] <krenx> "DO" i mean
[12:36] <imbrandon> su ( switch user ) then "DO" something , ie the command
[12:36] <IronMan> Hm, how stable is Kubuntu 6.06 LTS Beta Release
[12:36] <IronMan> ?
[12:37] <krenx> switch user? thought su was superuser
[12:37] <imbrandon> IronMan, i've been running it a few months ( dapper ) and no major issues
[12:37] <IronMan> nice
[12:37] <IronMan> when the stable release get released, will I be able to just upgrade then?
[12:37] <IronMan> yea i know, i'm stupid :P
[12:38] <imbrandon> krenx, its switch user, ie you can type "su <username>" to change to that user but if non is specified it assumed root
[12:38] <imbrandon> IronMan, yes, you just will use apt-get to update
[12:39] <IronMan> nice, thx imbrandon
[12:39] <krenx> imbrandon: have you ever used Cedega? does it work fine ?
[12:40] <imbrandon> not cedega becouse i dont run games but i've used both wine and crossover office and both run smooth, and i've seen cedega run good for other poeple
[12:41] <noxs> moin
[12:41] <noxs> noch jemand wach?
[12:41] <imbrandon> ?
[12:41] <krenx> ah, ok. Is wine for free?
[12:41] <imbrandon> yes
[12:41] <noxs> hi all
[12:41] <imbrandon> !wine
[12:41] <krenx> !beer
[12:41] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, krenx
[12:41] <krenx> :)
[12:41] <imbrandon> ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run the majority of windows programs. To get wine installed, download http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wine/wine_0.9.10-winehq1-2_i386.deb then follow this guide to installing it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=149585 More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq
[12:41] <ubotu> ...but wine is already something else...
[12:41] <noxs> how to start some applications while booting?
[12:42] <noxs> which configuration file is the right one?
[12:42] <imbrandon> nox, depends on the program but rc.local is a good place to start
[12:42] <noxs> ah i see
[12:42] <krenx> imbrandon: does wine work  with all windows programs?
[12:43] <noxs> thanks a lot
[12:43] <imbrandon> krenx, not all but most ( cedega is based on wine , just has a gui )
[12:43] <Seantater> krenx: no, but many
[12:43] <noxs> its about mpd...i want to start mpd automaticallc
[12:43] <noxs> s/automaticallc/automatically
[12:44] <krenx> yea, i read that yesterday, that cedega is based on winex
[12:44] <imbrandon> winex == wine
[12:44] <imbrandon> sme thing
[12:44] <IronMan> hmm, moving files, NTFS -> EXT3 works fine, right?
[12:45] <Seantater> IronMan: probably, but EXT3 -> NTFS might be dangerus
[12:45] <imbrandon> IronMan, yea, just dont write to ntfs with the native ntfs drivers ( captive seems to work ok )
[12:45] <IronMan> ok
[12:45] <IronMan> cus i want to convert my 250gb hdd from ntfs without losing the data
[12:46] <imbrandon> wait
[12:46] <IronMan> and it's partitioned into 2 partitions
[12:46] <imbrandon> if you format the ntfs to ext3 it will loose all data
[12:46] <imbrandon> i thought you ment copying it to ext3
[12:47] <IronMan> The second one is empty.. Wouldn't it be possible to format the second partiton to ext3, move the files from the ntfs-partiton there.. then format the first partiton to ext3
[12:47] <imbrandon> ohhh yea
[12:47] <imbrandon> ok your right sorry mis understood you
[12:47] <IronMan> but that would work, right?
[12:47] <imbrandon> yup
[12:47] <IronMan> awesome :P
[12:48] <IronMan> i'm not into linux yet.. but I just hate this windows-crap.. Sorry if my questions are dumb
[12:48] <IronMan> hehe
[12:48] <krenx> Damn
[12:49] <imbrandon> np IronMan gotta learn somehow
[12:49] <krenx> When i go sudo dpkg -i win_0.9.10-winehql-2_i386.deb  , it says the statusbase is locked by another process
[12:49] <IronMan> yea, true
[12:49] <leagris> oyo all
[12:49] <IronMan> hi leagris
[12:49] <IronMan> ;)
[12:49] <Seantater> krenx: Look for other packagemanagers and apt processes
[12:50] <slow-motion> n8
[12:50] <imbrandon> krenx, means you have synaptic or something still open
[12:50] <krenx> oh
[12:50] <leagris> I experience bad behaviours with kmix when unplugging an usb audio device. Kmix takes 100% cpu.
[12:51] <leagris> any idea if there is a workaround other than quitting kmix before unplugging the USB audio headset ?
[12:53] <krenx> imbrandon: and now it says the packetarchitecture (i386) doesnt match the systems (amd64)
[12:54] <krenx> erm
[12:54] <ramonv> !restricted
[12:54] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:54] <imbrandon> krenx, you on a amd64 ?
[12:54] <krenx> imbrandon: yes
[12:55] <imbrandon> you will probbly have to compile wine from source then unless you can find a wine amd64 deb
[12:57] <imbrandon> krenx, add this to you sources.list
[12:57] <imbrandon> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[12:57] <imbrandon> then do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine"
[12:58] <imbrandon> that should fix you up on amd64
[12:58] <imbrandon> if not you can add the deb-src from wine and build the package from src
[12:59] <imbrandon> let me know and if the binary dosent work , i'll help you compile the deb-src
[12:59] <krenx> k
[12:59] <krenx> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/
[01:00] <krenx> wups
[01:00] <imbrandon> no
[01:00] <imbrandon> dont take out the space
[01:00] <krenx> k
[01:00] <imbrandon> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[01:00] <imbrandon> deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/
[01:00] <krenx> not # deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/ ?
[01:00] <krenx> k
[01:00] <imbrandon> there is a space in there, dont take it out
[01:01] <lilminimey06> anyone rember the ipod+amarok+problem boy here? I got it working now, but i need to manualy mount it everytime
[01:01] <imbrandon> you have a #, dont need that either
[01:01] <lilminimey06> and since its my fathers computer and he is even more newb than me, i need it to be auto mounted...
[01:02] <lilminimey06> anyone got any idea?
[01:03] <lilminimey06> i also want a icon on my desktop
[01:03] <lilminimey06> it must be a way to auto mount it when i connect it
[01:04] <fjellrev1> How do I install a package with a .daa extension ?
[01:05] <krenx> imbrandon: erm, cant save it: it  says i cant write the file
[01:05] <imbrandon> you need to "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:05] <imbrandon> you have to be super user to edit sources.list
[01:06] <krenx> yea i am
[01:06] <imbrandon> then you can save it
[01:06] <imbrandon> brb
[01:06] <krenx> so no #  ?
[01:09] <lilminimey06> anyone
[01:12] <krenx> Grr
[01:13] <krenx> Seantater: I cant save the text in sources.list , i do ^O but it still doesnt save. why?
[01:16] <v3ctor> check the filename it saves to when you edit
[01:16] <v3ctor> it doesn't overwrite by default
[01:17] <krenx> im doin this from terminal
[01:18] <Hobbsee> krenx: in nano?  try ^x
[01:18] <krenx> ^x it quit
[01:18] <krenx> is
[01:19] <Hobbsee> lets you save while quitting though
[01:19] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:20] <krenx> :)
[01:21] <krenx> bah
[01:22] <krenx> cant i edit sources.list if i open it in kate ?
[01:22] <robotgeek> krenx: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:23] <krenx> thanks
[01:24] <robotgeek> heh, human contact on irc :)
[01:24] <kkathman> lol
[01:25] <krenx> lol
[01:26] <kkathman> I have that effect on people. yes robotgeek
[01:28] <krenx> so
[01:28] <kkathman> robotgeek is so afraid of committment :)
[01:29] <robotgeek> kkathman: yeah, right
[01:29] <krenx> how do i get wine for amd64 ?
[01:29] <kkathman> hehe
[01:29] <kkathman> robotgeek:  that was a joke :)
[01:29] <robotgeek> krenx: maybe not, nt without a chroot
 krenx, add this to you sources.list
 deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[01:31] <robotgeek> kkathman: no offense taken :)
 then do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine"
[01:31] <krenx>  <imbrandon> that should fix you up on amd64
[01:32] <robotgeek> krenx: that would be asuming you have are on x86, but you are on amd64
[01:32] <krenx> yes i am
[01:32] <krenx> then hes wrong.
[01:32] <krenx> :)
[01:32] <robotgeek> krenx: yes, he's wrong
[01:35] <krenx> whats a chroot ?
[01:35] <robotgeek> krenx: if you are new user, you can safely use the x86 installer on you machine
[01:36] <robotgeek> !chroot
[01:36] <ubotu> I heard chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[01:36] <krenx> nah, i wanna learn the hard way
[01:36] <robotgeek> krenx: sounds good, read up :)
[01:37] <krenx> robotgeek: I will , see ya in 10 years, lol
[01:37] <krenx> :)
[01:38] <krenx> is there cedega for amd64 ?
[01:40] <krenx> robotgeek: I read this somewhere : "Or, if you think a chroot just for wine is a bit much, you can install all the ia32-libs, and manually download the deb from wine.sourceforge.net/apt. and there you have it."
[01:40] <krenx> So it works that way too ?
[01:41] <robotgeek> krenx: hmm, i would guess so
[01:42] <krenx> K, trying it
[01:47] <krenx> !wine
[01:52] <lilminimey06> everytime i connect my ipod i need to type this in a console: "mount -o users,exec,suid,umask=0 /dev/sdb2 /mnt/ipod/" how can i make this auto?
[01:53] <lilminimey06> plz ppls
[01:54] <lilminimey06> ?
[01:55] <krenx> robotgeek: its working just fine.
[01:55] <SlimG> is there a guide on howto install cedega from cvs (wihout paying for it) ?
[01:56] <robotgeek> krenx: would you be so kind as to document it on the wiki?
[01:56] <krenx> robotgeek: i started to use linux yesterday
[01:57] <krenx> URL ?
[01:57] <lilminimey06> isnt there some one who can help me?
[01:57] <lilminimey06> i need my ipod to be automaticly mounted
[01:57] <lilminimey06> when inserted
[01:58] <IronMan> #ubuntu
[01:58] <IronMan> ask there
[01:59] <lilminimey06> ok
[02:02] <Ranma> Hi to all
[02:02] <Ranma> does anyone knows any application to use v.92 modem on hold feature?
[02:10] <ahmuck_jr> is mysql availale on kubuntu ?
[02:11] <robotgeek> ahmuck_jr: yes, you can install it from repositories
[02:11] <robotgeek> !info mysql
[02:11] <robotgeek> !info mysql-server
[02:11] <ahmuck_jr> !info event not found
[02:11] <ubotu> mysql-server: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.0.24-10ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 3471 kB, Installed size: 8796 kB
[02:12] <krenx> robotgeek: cant you document it on the wiki?
[02:13] <robotgeek> krenx: i don't own a x86/amd64 box, i don't know what you did, etc etc
[02:14] <krenx> ok, gimme url to the wiki and ill try to document it even if i started to use linux yesterday
[02:15] <robotgeek> krenx: wiki.ubuntu.com , it's probably a good idea to include it on the page where (if you found it on the wiki)
[02:16] <robotgeek> krenx: much appreciated :)
[02:16] <robotgeek> that ways, i can redirect the next person who asks me the same question to the page
[02:20] <flaccid> does kubuntu have openoffice.org 2.0?
[02:20] <flaccid> yet...
[02:21] <crimsun> kubuntu dapper does, yes
[02:25] <flaccid> ok cool, what is dapper?
[02:30] <Riddell> flaccid: codename for the next release
[02:30] <Riddell> but the current release has openoffice 2.0 as well
[02:41] <sgilroy> hello - I am having problems with xlib6g.  I can't find it anywhere or how to install it.
[02:42] <flaccid> ah sweet
[02:42] <flaccid> how long till dapper is in prod?
[02:43] <robotgeek> flaccid: june 1, iirc
[02:43] <crimsun> sgilroy: it's already installed if you're running KDE in Kubuntu.
[02:43] <crimsun> sgilroy: it's just now called libx11.
[02:43] <crimsun> specifically, libx11-6
[02:45] <flaccid> iirc ?
[02:45] <tarmath> what does iirc stand for?
[02:46] <crimsun> if I remember correctly
[02:46] <tarmath> ahh
[02:53] <flaccid> cool
[02:56] <XVampireX> A little error, perhaps you people would know what it means (Process number varies, as I get this error in more than just one place). I get that while doing apt-get upgrade: ** (process:6380): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[03:03] <krenx> robotgeek: doh, it didnt work, I need  the 32bit libXxf86vm libs aswell
[03:03] <krenx> where do i get em?
[03:04] <robotgeek> krenx: not sure, look on packages.ubuntu.com
[03:04] <robotgeek> krenx: sorry, but as i said earlier, i don't run x86/amd64
[03:04] <krenx> k thx
[03:06] <XVampireX> funny you are
[03:08] <TehUni> how do i get twinview working in Kubuntu?
[03:08] <TehUni> got 2 20" widescreens that i'd like to get setup side-by-side
[03:13] <TehUni> anyone?
[03:19] <krenx> robotgeek: is there any program similar too wine/cedega for amd64?
[03:19] <robotgeek> krenx: probably not
[03:20] <krenx> so basicly, i need a chroot cos this didnt work so  well
[03:21] <robotgeek> krenx: yes, i think
[03:38] <wubrgamer> hey, i just did a oem install on a mac, but how do i get rid of the oem user ? and start using as the end user ?
[03:39] <TehUni> can someone help me get both monitors working? i want to use twinview on my nvidia card
[03:41] <wubrgamer> hey, i just did a oem install on a mac, but how do i get rid of the oem user ? and start using as the end user ?
[03:42] <lee_> Hello
[03:42] <lee_> Is there anybody out there?
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> wubrgamer: You setup a user during the install, what's wrong with that user?
[03:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> lee_: What's the problem?
[03:44] <krenx> wot
[03:44] <krenx> sudo: gedit: command not found
[03:44] <krenx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575&highlight=32+bit+chroot <- says gedit !
[03:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> krenx: replace with kate or kwrite
[03:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> or vi or emacs :)
[03:44] <krenx> cheers
[03:48] <krenx> kdesu kate
[03:53] <hgladden> what up everyone
[03:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> Other than that, not much. ;)
[03:54] <wannaBlinuxguru> awesome.. i'm on a 30day trial run
[03:54] <wannaBlinuxguru> seeing if i can truely become windows free; which i'm doubting
[03:55] <krenx> sudo kate /chroot/etc/apt/sources.list
[03:55] <krenx> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[03:55] <krenx> Xlib: No protocol specified
[03:55] <krenx> wtf?
[03:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> wannaBlinuxguru: Dual boot for awhile, you'll get used to Linux. :)
[03:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> krenx: Then try vi.
[03:56] <wannaBlinuxguru> oh meh.. i've got a dedicated windows box, dedicated linux box and a dual boot laptop
[03:56] <wannaBlinuxguru> so i think i'm covered.  Only do my .NET dev on the windows box
[03:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> I've got a dedicated Linux laptop. :)
[03:57] <wannaBlinuxguru> i don't think i can go that far.. since the world is still very windows friendly
[03:57] <krenx> CheeseBurgerMan: vi ?
[03:58] <wannaBlinuxguru> emacs
[03:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> vi :P
[03:58] <krenx> :PP
[03:58] <wannaBlinuxguru> where bouts ya'll from?
[03:58] <krenx> CheeseBurgerMan: vi? :P
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, a command line text editor.
[04:00] <wannaBlinuxguru> cheeseburgerman: u using dapper?
[04:00] <CheeseBurgerMan> Nope.
[04:01] <wannaBlinuxguru> how about setting up nfs?
[04:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> Considerin I'm not sure what that is, no. I haven't. ;)
[04:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> considering*
[04:02] <wannaBlinuxguru> lol  ok, fair enough
[04:03] <wannaBlinuxguru> do you do any programming cbm?
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> Nope.
[04:04] <wannaBlinuxguru> what made u switch to linux?
[04:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm
[04:05] <krenx> dude
[04:05] <krenx> nothin wiorks
[04:05] <krenx> :P
[04:05] <wannaBlinuxguru> what up krenx
[04:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> krenx: What's going wrong now?
[04:05] <h3sp4wn> use kernel-nfs-server (its more mature than the userland one) man exports is detailed enough to easily understand (and has examples)
[04:06] <krenx> kdesu kate /chroot/etc/apt/sources.list, sodu kate /chroot/etc/apt/sources.list, tried vi too
[04:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> Assuming that you typed 'sudo' and not 'sodu', tose look fine.
[04:07] <h3sp4wn> krenx: try using ed :P
[04:07] <krenx> lol
[04:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> those*
[04:07] <krenx> i typed sudo
[04:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> krenx: What happens when you use 'sudo vi /chroot/ect/apt/sources.list' ?
[04:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> rats, a typo
[04:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> 'sudo vi /chroot/etc/apt/sources.list' ;)
[04:09] <krenx> took a screendump
[04:09] <krenx> nevemrind
[04:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> wannaBlinuxguru: I mostly switched because Windows was starting to bug me, and I...just wanted to try Linux. :)
[04:09] <krenx> think i got it
[04:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> Good. :)
[04:10] <wannaBlinuxguru> good enough
[04:10] <krenx> no, i didnt  got it
[04:10] <krenx> lol
[04:10] <wannaBlinuxguru> krenx.. why don't u just use kpackage
[04:10] <wannaBlinuxguru> it'll make your life much easier
[04:11] <krenx> beecause
[04:11] <krenx> im trying to setup a 32bit chroot
[04:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> wannaBlinuxguru: It's better to do it the hard way. You learn more. :)
[04:11] <krenx> yes
[04:11] <wannaBlinuxguru> oh i completely agree
[04:11] <krenx> i said   that  before
[04:11] <krenx> :)
[04:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> And amd64 has taught me all about needing to do it the hard way. :)
[04:12] <wannaBlinuxguru> lol yea.. i avoided the 64bit stuff.. even though the laptop supports it
[04:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> I didn't. :P
[04:12] <wannaBlinuxguru> figured that be more of aheadache than i wanted at the moment
[04:12] <krenx> me neither
[04:12] <krenx> i started using linux yesterday
[04:12] <krenx> :P
[04:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> I've noticed that there are a lack of packages for it, but now I'm actually making packages. :)
[04:13] <wannaBlinuxguru> oh nice. welcome aboard!
[04:13] <krenx> so
[04:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> krenx: Welcome to the blue side. :) <insert fakish darth vader voice here>
[04:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> Anyway.
[04:13] <wannaBlinuxguru> so.. how would u go about that.. would it just be a matter of compiling the programs on a 64bit machine?
[04:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> What happens when you use vi?
[04:13] <wannaBlinuxguru> or does it completely need to be re-written?
[04:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> wannaBlinuxguru: Yeah, you just have to compile them.
[04:13] <krenx> black screen with Blue things on the side
[04:13] <wannaBlinuxguru> oh okay
[04:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> Or you can try using dpkg -i --force-architecture, but I've had mixed success with that.
[04:14] <krenx> he
[04:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> krenx: I can't think of a reason that vi wouldn't work, it's installed by default.
[04:16] <wannaBlinuxguru> try pico
[04:16] <wannaBlinuxguru> that's installed by default aswell i think
[04:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yep, it is.
[04:17] <krenx> CheeseBurgerMan: accept it
[04:18] <krenx> cant add anything there
[04:18] <wannaBlinuxguru> u still have to use the sudo command
[04:18] <krenx> yes, i know
[04:19] <krenx> but i said too CheeseBurgerMan  :P
[04:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> krenx: That's what it looks like when you open a new file. You still have to add the repos. :)
[04:20] <krenx> i couldnt :P
[04:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> Use sudo. ;)
[04:20] <krenx> anyway, pico worked fine
[04:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, good. :)
[04:21] <wannaBlinuxguru> krenx, are u using dapper??
[04:22] <krenx> Why doesnt the ^O command save ?
[04:22] <TehUni> grrr!
[04:22] <TehUni> why wont this work?
[04:23] <TehUni> STILL trying to get twinview working
[04:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> krenx: I don't know, I've not used pico
[04:27] <krenx> K so i typed it in VI now CheeseBurgerMan , it saves automaticly if i close it?
[04:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> No
[04:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> Press Esc, then type in ':wq', then Enter
[04:29] <krenx> doesnt look saved to me
[04:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> krenx: it should save and then quit.
[04:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> Sorry I took so long. I was being helped elsewhere. :)
[04:35] <tmhai> WOW! alot of people here
[04:35] <tmhai> i real quick question
[04:36] <tmhai> will a live cd of kubuntu alter anything on a harddrive?
[04:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, ask away.
[04:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> Nope.
[04:36] <tmhai> thanks
[04:39] <tmhai> ok, im at the download page and i selected my mirror in the dvd section but which file is the live version?
[04:39] <tmhai> np
[04:39] <tmhai> i mean nm
[04:45] <krenx> I think ill reinstall with i386.. .P
[04:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> :o
[04:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> What do you need?
[04:46] <krenx> nah, i wont, this just pisses me off :P
[04:48] <krenx> Package fakechroot
[04:48] <krenx> breezy (utils): gives a fake chroot environment [universe] 
[04:48] <krenx> 0.9+1.3: amd64 i386 powerpc
[04:48] <krenx> thats 32-bit chrroot package ?
[04:48] <TehUni> got it!
[04:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> Looks like it, although I've not done a chroot, so I cna't be 100% certain.
[04:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> can't*
[04:48] <TehUni> if anyone needs help with twinview just let me know, heh
[04:49] <krenx> I need help to get my ass from here
[04:49] <krenx> im stuck
[04:49] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm
[04:49] <CheeseBurgerMan> What now? :)
[04:50] <krenx> dunno, guess im addicted to computers
[04:52] <krenx> lol
[04:55] <krenx> ok, got the package. it installs if i type sudo dpkg -i fakechroot_0.9+1.3_amd64.deb ?
[04:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yep
[05:03] <krenx> CheeseBurgerMan: You know if there is Cedega for amd64 ?
[05:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> Not sure. I just got wine working today. :)
[05:03] <LeeJunFan> krenx: Well if it's anything like codeweavers they compiled static libs and it'll work just the same.
[05:04] <krenx> CheeseBurgerMan: On amd64?
[05:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> yep :)
[05:04] <LeeJunFan> crossover installs to your home dir, and I've use the same install between amd64 and ia32.
[05:04] <Search4Lancer> don't mean to sound like a n00b, but where the heck is the equivalent of Ctrl-Alt-Del that allows me to kill programs?
[05:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> Search4Lancer: KSysGuard, Ctrl+Esc
[05:05] <Search4Lancer> danke
[05:05] <krenx> CheeseBurgerMan: you should guide a newbie like me :P
[05:06] <Search4Lancer> surprised I couldn't find it again.... I only keep KSysGuard open nearly all the time...
[05:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> With wine or your chroot? ;)
[05:06] <krenx> wine
[05:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> Search4Lancer: I tend to use xkill since I usually know which app is causing problems.
[05:06] <krenx> i tried before, but didnt get it too work
[05:06] <krenx> i installed all the ia32 libs
[05:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> krenx: Alright, let me find a couple things first. :)
[05:07] <krenx> Lets take it priv
[05:07] <Search4Lancer> well CheeseBurgerMan, that wouldn't have helped, since apparently I opened boinc (which runs invisibly) instead of boincmgr, so I would've tried to kill the wrong thing
[05:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ah
[05:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> krenx: 'sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk linux32'
[05:10] <krenx> I alreday have wine-tools installed
[05:10] <krenx> should i uninstall it first ?
[05:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> Don't bother.
[05:10] <krenx> ok
[05:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> If it doesn't work later on, then we can try uninstalling it. ;)
[05:11] <krenx> ok done
[05:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> Now download http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/libwine_0.9.12~winehq1-1_all.deb and http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/wine_0.9.12~winehq1-1_i386.deb
[05:12] <krenx> k
[05:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> Now download http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/tech/deb/deb2targz
[05:13] <krenx> ok done
[05:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> Copy the script you just downloaded into /usr/bin
[05:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> 'sudo cp /path/to/script /usr/bin/deb2targz'
[05:17] <krenx> k
[05:17] <krenx> 1 sec
[05:17] <krenx> done
[05:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> Alright, now you'll want to make it executable, so 'sudo chmod 755 /usr/bin/deb2targz'
[05:20] <krenx> and why do I want to do that? just for learning purposes
[05:20] <krenx> :)
[05:20] <krenx> done.
[05:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> Because the script converts a debian package to a targz, and you need the permissions to execute the script before you can use it.
[05:21] <krenx> so the code 755 makes it executable ?
[05:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yep
[05:22] <krenx> k
[05:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> I think it's rwxr-xr-x
[05:22] <kkathman> or a chmod u+x hehe
[05:23] <krenx> :)
[05:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> Or that, but that's now how I did it. ;)
[05:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> Anyway. Now install the libwine deb.
[05:23] <krenx> I hope i can teach you guys stuff some day.. .P
[05:23] <krenx> ok
[05:24] <krenx> sudo dpkg - wine*.deb ?
[05:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> 'cd /directory/with/package && sudo dpkg -i libwine_0.9.12~winehq1-1_all.deb'
[05:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> The libwine package, not the actual wine package. :)
[05:24] <krenx> wich off them, all or i386 ?
[05:25] <krenx> ok
[05:25] <krenx> hoho ok :P
[05:26] <krenx> done
[05:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> Alright, now we convert the other package to a tar.gz
[05:26] <krenx> shoot
[05:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> And, shockingly enough, we do this with the script that was downloaded earlier. So that would be 'deb2targz wine[blah] .deb'
[05:27] <krenx> in the usr/bin dir or where i copied it from ?
[05:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> You have to be in the dir where the wine deb is.
[05:28] <krenx> ya
[05:28] <krenx> whats the convert command ?
[05:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> deb2targz
[05:29] <bleaked> so today i was messing around the the kde options and i was attempting to customize the look of kdm..and so i made changes from the System Settings, yet they don't actually take effect.  why might this be?
[05:29] <krenx> im lost
[05:30] <krenx> you lost me at: So that would be 'deb2targz wine[blah] .deb'
[05:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, the deb2targz script, converts a debian package to a targz. Since you copied it into /usr/bin, bash finds it as an executable it can run. This means you just have to type in 'deb2targz <package name>' to invoke the command.  Since you're converting the wine deb to a targz, the final command would be  'deb2targz wine_0.9.12~winehq1-1_i386.deb' in the directory where you're wine_0.9.12~winehq1-1_i386.deb is.
[05:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hope that made more sense. :)
[05:32] <krenx> yeah
[05:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> Good. :)
[05:32] <krenx> wrote 'wine_0.9.12~winehq1-1_i386.tar.gz'
[05:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> Good, now you have to extract that to /
[05:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> I think that would be 'sudo tar -zxfp wine_0.9.12~winehq1-1_i386.tar.gz /'
[05:37] <krenx> isnt it -zxvf
[05:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> v is just verbose.
[05:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> You can add that if you want. :)
[05:37] <chip42> its the same. p is telling it preserve permissions
[05:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, I was just leading to that. :P
[05:39] <krenx> heh
[05:40] <krenx> didnt work with -zxfp
[05:40] <krenx> but with zxvf
[05:40] <krenx> hmm
[05:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> files have would be more appropriate. Pretend I typed that instead. :)
[05:41] <krenx> hmm
[05:41] <krenx> cant untar them
[05:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> Well, now get an exe and try 'linux32 wine filename.exe'
[05:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> The permissions may be screwy though, so we may have to try this un-tarring business again. :)
[05:42] <krenx> it sais the files not there, but i copied the name to terminal
[05:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> 'filename.exe' just means try any exe you have. :)
[05:43] <krenx> yeah i got that :P
[05:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> Good. ;)
 I think that would be 'sudo tar -zxfp wine_0.9.12~winehq1-1_i386.tar.gz /' -- that doesnt work
[05:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm
[05:46] <xiO__> tar doesn't need the -
[05:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> But it shouldn't affect the final outcome.
[05:46] <bleaked> does anyone know if there exists an app to put photos on ones ipod?
[05:46] <xiO__> if tar doesn't work then that effects the outcome
[05:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, I know :P
[05:49] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, lets try this. run 'kdesu ark' and then open the tar.gz
[05:49] <CheeseBurgerMan> then extract it to / :P
[05:51] <CheeseBurgerMan> krenx: You still here?
[05:51] <krenx> they are in /home/wine now
[05:52] <krenx> or i put them in
[05:52] <krenx> .        /    ? =)
[05:52] <krenx> im laughing here :/
[05:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> krenx: Try this 'sudo tar zxvfp wine_0.9.12~winehq1-1_i386.tar.gz -C /'
[05:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> That should work. :)
[05:53] <krenx> ya it did
[05:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> :D
[05:53] <krenx> <-------- :D
[05:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> Now try running an exe :)
[05:54] <krenx> so now i try any .exe fil
[05:54] <krenx> ok
[05:54] <krenx> just gonna find one
[05:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> 'linux32 wine filename.exe'
[05:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK. :)
[05:56] <krenx> gren@gren:~$ linux32 wine eyeinst.exe
[05:56] <krenx> err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"winex11.drv": libXxf86dga.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:56] <krenx> any many many more lines
[05:56] <krenx> :P
[05:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> :o
[05:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> You need libXxf86dga. ;)
[05:58] <krenx> i got it
[05:58] <krenx> no
[05:58] <krenx> i got libXxf86dga1
[06:00] <CheeseBurgerMan> are the so and so.1 in /lib32?
[06:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://tinyurl.com/e6vvw and http://tinyurl.com/krqzn <-- Get those, make them into a tar.gz and put the .so and .so.1 into /lib32 and then run 'ldconfig'
[06:06] <krenx> k
[06:07] <multi> greetings
[06:08] <multi> anyone familiar with ssh_keygen?
[06:08] <multi> anyone awake?
[06:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> Awake, I am. But I don't know anything about ssh_keygen
[06:09] <multi> well thanks for letting me know I wasn't talking to myself.... again :P
[06:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> hehe, no problem. ;)
[06:10] <multi> is there another channel where someone might know?
[06:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> Possibly #ubuntu
[06:10] <multi> thank you
[06:12] <krenx> ok CheeseBurgerMan , done
[06:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, now try running the program again.
[06:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> Should work this time. :)
[06:14] <krenx> bah, it doesnt, im going to bed.
[06:14] <krenx> err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[06:14] <krenx> err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[06:14] <krenx> err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[06:14] <krenx> err:imagelist:ImageList_ReplaceIcon no color!
[06:14] <krenx> err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"winex11.drv": libXxf86dga.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:15] <krenx> err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"winex11.drv": libXxf86dga.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:15] <krenx> err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"winex11.drv": libXxf86dga.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:15] <krenx> Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[06:15] <krenx> Unknown error (127).
[06:15] <krenx> Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
[06:15] <krenx> Unknown error (127).
[06:15] <krenx> could you please give me the page and ill read it some other day, i got a barbeque party commin up today  :P
[06:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> I don't have a page. :\
[06:16] <krenx> k
[06:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> It's still having problems with libXxf86dga :(
[06:17] <krenx> ops
[06:17] <krenx> i put em in usr/llib
[06:17] <krenx> not bin
[06:17] <krenx> lol
[06:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> The so and .so.1?
[06:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> They go in /lib32 ;)
[06:18] <krenx> o
[06:18] <krenx> lol
[06:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> Just move them over to /lib32 and try again. :)
[06:19] <krenx> you have to be patient with me, i have only been using linux for 1 day :P
[06:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> It's OK, I've done stupider things. :)
[06:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> But lets not get into that. ;)
[06:21] <krenx> fs
[06:22] <krenx> they go in usr/ when i untar them too lib32
[06:22] <krenx> they should?
[06:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> Don't untar the whole thing, just open it in ark, and extract only the so and so.1 onto your desktop. Then run 'kdesu konqueror /lib32' and drag & drop them into it. :)
[06:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> Or you could just directly drag & drop them from ark into konqueror. :)
[06:27] <krenx> ye
[06:27] <krenx> they are in lib32 now but still no progress
[06:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm
[06:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> Did you run 'ldconfig' after moving them?
[06:29] <krenx> ops, no
[06:30] <krenx> ok, it seemed to work now but:
[06:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> But?
[06:31] <krenx> wine: creating configuration directory '/root/.wine'...
[06:31] <krenx> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[06:31] <krenx> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm, now this is a problem I never had. :o
[06:32] <krenx> why  cant they just make wine for amd64,would be so much easier
[06:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> Because it depends on being 32 bit. If it was for amd64, none of the Windows programs would run. ;)
[06:33] <krenx> oh ye true
[06:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> Anyone else able to help here?
[06:34] <stevekl> I wonder if anyone still runs warty
[06:34] <krenx> Make sure that your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly.
[06:34] <krenx> X server ?
[06:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> krenx: Ah, I got THAT error enough times.
[06:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> That didn't happen when I used linux32 though
[06:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> only when I didn't.
[06:34] <krenx> :)
[06:34] <krenx> so how i get my x server running
[06:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> It's running. All the GUI stuff runs off of the X server.
[06:36] <bleaked> is there an app which will go out and find available apps and add them to the kmenu?
[06:36] <krenx> err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"msxml3.dll": libxslt.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, now you need libxslt
[06:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> None that I know of, bleaked
[06:37] <bleaked> CheeseBurgerMan. see that's odd, i swear i've used such an app a year or so ago on deb.
[06:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> Maybe you have, but I don't know about it. ;)
[06:38] <krenx> CheeseBurgerMan: , i got it working now
[06:38] <krenx> u da man
[06:38] <krenx> installed libxslt
[06:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yay!
[06:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> :D
[06:39] <WhyM> Congratz  (*)
[06:39] <krenx> lol
[06:39] <krenx> WhyM has been reading and scratching his head and wondering "wtf?"
[06:40] <WhyM>  ;-)
[06:40] <WhyM> I hop CheeseBurgerMan was writting an HowTo during that time...
[06:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> I was. :)
[06:40] <WhyM> You rock
[06:41] <krenx> you should put "Credit too krenx" at the end ;)
[06:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> I've put up the rough version on my site, I'm going to put it on the wiki once I clean it up a bot (probably tomorrow)
[06:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> bit*
[06:41] <krenx> whats your site ?
[06:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://cheeseburgerman.nocosthost.com/ it is now
[06:42] <krenx> k
[06:44] <krenx> ops
[06:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> WB. ;)
[06:45] <krenx> im off to bed now, thank you very much for the help, CheeseBurgerMan   !
[06:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> You're welcome. :) I just got it working myself a few hours ago. :P
[06:56] <swedish> is there a processor/mobo temp/fan monitor for linux/kubuntu   (woah...that was alot of slashes)
[06:57] <krenx> ja sena de e leifi
[06:58] <krenx> No idea
[06:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> swedish: 'sudo apt-get install lm-sensors ksensors'
[07:00] <krenx> CheeseBurgerMan:  Are you using the wine-tools ?
[07:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> No
[07:01] <krenx> Ok
[07:01] <krenx> :)
[07:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> I tried xwine, but that was worse that just using  console. :)
[07:02] <krenx> So now i can play basicly any game that i can on windows ?
[07:02] <krenx> or use a program.
[07:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> You should be able to play most games.
[07:04] <krenx> k, nice
[07:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> It is. :)
[07:05] <krenx> you play any games ?
[07:06] <kkathman> hehe
[07:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> hehe
[07:06] <kkathman> I wish I could get my FB working :)
[07:06] <kkathman> its got some sound command that freezes it on start :(
[07:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> But I always seem to be called elsewhere at around level 20 :(
[07:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> :o
[07:07] <krenx> :o
[07:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> Did you try 'frozen-bubble -ns'?
[07:08] <kkathman> nope whats that?
[07:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> That disables the sound
[07:08] <kkathman> no sound?
[07:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yep
[07:08] <kkathman> hmm lemme check
[07:11] <kkathman> well that works, but it doesnt seem to launch my ball when I press the space bar until the "HURRY: sign comes up
[07:11] <kkathman> sniff
[07:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> :o
[07:12] <kkathman> I think that game got facked up
[07:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah
[07:12] <kkathman> it was working fine, and then I did an update
[07:12] <kkathman> hehe
[07:12] <kkathman> shrug
[07:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> You could always try either reinstalling or just installing monkeybubble
[07:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> :)
[07:12] <kkathman> hehe
[07:12] <kkathman> forgot about that
[07:13] <kkathman> monkeybubble hehe
[07:13] <kkathman> brb..rebooting to dapper
[07:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> ALright
[07:14] <krenx> ah
[07:14] <krenx> finally got the mp3s workin
[07:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> :)
[07:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> Need to install the xine engine?
[07:15] <krenx> xine engine ?
[07:15] <krenx> no, dont thionk so
[07:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> hehe
[07:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> It's another engine for  putting sound to your speakers
[07:16] <krenx> i need to install my other hdd with lots of music and movies tho
[07:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> Breezy has Gstreamer by default.
[07:16] <krenx> ah
[07:16] <krenx> nah, i play music upstairs, i only use headphones down here
[07:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> I just hope that HDD is fat32
[07:17] <krenx> thx anyway
[07:17] <krenx> no, its ntfs :) cant use it on this machine?
[07:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> Linux can only read ntfs drives
[07:18] <krenx> k
[07:18] <krenx> then why <CheeseBurgerMan> I just hope that HDD is fat32 ? :)
[07:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> Because you'll want to write to it. ;)
[07:19] <krenx> :/
[07:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> WB
[07:20] <kkathman> thanks
[07:20] <krenx> shit, im not gonna much sleep before ppl are comming
[07:20] <krenx> get*
[07:21] <kkathman> i shuttle back and forth between SUSE and dapper
[07:21] <krenx> c ya everybody
[07:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> Bye
[07:21] <Pyre>  Hasta luego, amigo.
[07:21] <krenx> hasta lavista, baby
[07:21] <krenx> i'll be back
[07:22] <kkathman> 54
[07:22] <kkathman> hmm thats since this morning :)
[07:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ilol
[07:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol*
[07:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> had 4 in about a week :P
[07:22] <kkathman> well to be expected in the beta phase :)
[07:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> yeah
[07:23] <kkathman> want a real shock??  Do an apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:23] <kkathman> that will show you what the updates are missing :)
[07:23] <kkathman> hehe
[07:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> kkathman:
[07:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> Calculating upgrade... Done
[07:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> :P
[07:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> Thats what I got for a dist-upgrade. ;)
[07:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> httpdss: Hmm, make 'em smaller. ;)
[07:25] <kkathman> thats good :)
[07:26] <kkathman> its amazing, sometimes I can do the system update, then do the dist-upgrade and boom - bunches more
[07:26] <kkathman> i dont understand that sometimes
[07:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> That's strange.
[07:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> I thought that the system update was a GUIfied dis-upgate
[07:27] <kkathman> ok I just finished 54 updates
[07:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> minus typos. ;)
[07:27] <kkathman> now I'll try a dist-upgrade
[07:28] <kkathman> heh ok...came back with 0 :)
[07:28] <kkathman> hehe
[07:28] <kkathman> make a liar out of me you stinkin machine :)
[07:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[07:28] <kkathman> oh well
[07:30] <kkathman> im coming to a cross roads
[07:30] <kkathman> hmm wonder why its so slow all of a sudden?
[07:31] <kkathman> nighters
[07:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> G'night
[07:37] <_mod> can someone help me with cedega?
[07:48] <swedish> whats the default password for SU in cmd prompt?
[07:50] <noiesmo> swedish, your default user password you set up when installed I believe
[07:50] <vge> swedish: first added user password
[08:00] <fatejudger> !flgrx
[08:00] <ubotu> fatejudger: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:00] <fatejudger> !fglrx
[08:00] <ubotu> well, fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:04] <httpdss> how do i change the default mail client on firefox (now evolution) ... to kmail ? (im using kde dapper)
[08:04] <fatejudger> by using Konqueror
[08:06] <httpdss> fatejudger: ;) i use both but firefox has things i need (for example when developing web pages) ... etc etc etc ..
[08:07] <fatejudger> httpdss: yeah, that is true
[08:07] <me2win> httpdss: dont listen to him, his solution to everything is to use something else, which is pretty half a**ed if you ask me
[08:07] <fatejudger> me2win: asshole
[08:07] <me2win> :D
[08:07] <fatejudger> me2win: I hope you die
[08:08] <me2win> httpdss: see? :D
[08:08] <fatejudger> me2win: alright, let's see the answer then
[08:08] <me2win> !language
[08:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language. We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[08:08] <httpdss> me2win: hahaha
[08:09] <fatejudger> me2win: I just installed the 686 kernel
[08:09] <fatejudger> me2win: my laptop is running kinda slow for some reason
[08:10] <fatejudger> me2win: I think I might install the fresh beta
[08:10] <httpdss> i went to about:config but there is no reference to the default mail client (evolution).. :S
[08:12] <me2win> httpdss: yeah, one sec lemme see if i can find an option for you
[08:13] <fatejudger> I wish Kontact loaded a bit faster....
[08:13] <fatejudger> at least on my laptop
[08:13] <fatejudger> it loads instantly on my desktop
[08:13] <me2win> fatejudger: celerons are slow
[08:13] <httpdss> me2win: finally just found something ... network.protocol-handler.app.mailto = kmail ... and thats it .. :) hurray
[08:13] <DukGalNamu> i am guessing that 32megs of memory isn't enough to install kubuntu?
[08:13] <me2win> httpdss: lol, i found it just as you did
[08:14] <httpdss> me2win: thx anyway ..
[08:14] <fatejudger> me2win: yeah, does your dad have a Pentium?
[08:15] <DukGalNamu> the kernel seems to be stuck in an endless circle of killing things
[08:15] <me2win> fatejudger: yeah celeron
[08:15] <fatejudger> me2win: that sucks
[08:15] <httpdss> DukGalNamu: kubuntu needs 256
[08:15] <fatejudger> me2win: I'd buy a new laptop, but I think I'm going to buy an Origami
[08:15] <me2win> fatejudger: you see 2.8 ghz and think holy crap thats awesome, but its a celeron...
[08:15] <fatejudger> I guess I'll have to switch back to Windows :(
[08:15] <fatejudger> yeah
[08:15] <fatejudger> Pentium M's just blow them away
[08:15] <me2win> yeah
[08:15] <me2win> when i get a laptop
[08:15] <httpdss> DukGalNamu: you should use icewm .. or similar ..
[08:16] <me2win> i wont settle for a celeron
[08:16] <fatejudger> the $1,000 dell is really fast
[08:16] <fatejudger> and nice
[08:16] <fatejudger> great screen
[08:16] <DukGalNamu> httpdss: missed the last post
[08:16] <fatejudger> 17 inch widescreen
[08:16] <fatejudger> 5.5 pounds
[08:16] <httpdss> DukGalNamu: you should use icewm .. or similar ..
[08:16] <DukGalNamu> httpdss: the live cd won't even boot
[08:16] <DukGalNamu> httpdss: i will try to install DSL
[08:17] <fatejudger> me2win: so I guess I can't emulate Linux at school
[08:17] <fatejudger> me2win: my teacher says they don't have boot camp or anything on the macs
[08:17] <DukGalNamu> httpdss: but this is a system that is for people that know nothing of linux (not much of windoze for that matter)
[08:17] <fatejudger> me2win: he can't even use them
[08:17] <me2win> lol
[08:17] <fatejudger> that stupid adept update thing finally went away on my laptop
[08:17] <fatejudger> so I dunno if I'll format it now
[08:18] <fatejudger> my desktop is really pissing me off though
[08:18] <me2win> fatejudger: dude, they're unwillingness to cooperate is a signal that they are begging to have somebody get the wep key and spread it to the students
[08:18] <httpdss> DukGalNamu: i think DSL is the more user-friendly you can get with 32ram ..
[08:18] <fatejudger> it shuts down properly about half the time
[08:18] <fatejudger> me2win: lol, seriously
[08:18] <me2win> fatejudger: ive only seen the shutdown GUI 1 time
[08:18] <DukGalNamu> httpdss: i guess so... didn't relize how little ram it had until i got those errors though...
[08:18] <fatejudger> me2win: the LCDs don't do so well with the window resizing
[08:18] <DukGalNamu> might need to upgrade
[08:18] <fatejudger> me2win: I've noticed that
[08:18] <me2win> fatejudger: yeah
[08:18] <fatejudger> me2win: my problem is my computer just doesn't shut down
[08:18] <fatejudger> me2win: I click shut down, KDE terminates
[08:19] <fatejudger> me2win: and then blackness
[08:19] <me2win> lol
[08:19] <fatejudger> me2win: and nothing happens
[08:19] <fatejudger> I never know what's happening
[08:19] <me2win> fatejudger: for me, it goes through all the shutdown processes, but in the old style, no GUI like on startup
[08:19] <DukGalNamu> fatejudger: what does ctrl alt backspace do?
[08:19] <fatejudger> my laptop does that
[08:19] <fatejudger> DukGalNamu: shuts down X
[08:19] <httpdss> DukGalNamu: yup .. ubuntu server-mode (console only) runs on 64ram
[08:19] <me2win> restarts X to be exact
[08:19] <me2win> doesnt shut it down
[08:19] <DukGalNamu> fatejudger: i meant after the screen goes black
[08:19] <DukGalNamu> me2win: no it shuts x down
[08:20] <fatejudger> me2win: I wonder if it would help to reinstall Kubuntu
[08:20] <DukGalNamu> me2win: then the login manager restarts it
[08:20] <fatejudger> me2win: maybe that would fix the problem?
[08:20] <me2win> fatejudger: doubt it, it still happens to me reguardless
[08:20] <fatejudger> me2win: I'm wondering if there's some error showing up
[08:20] <me2win> DukGalNamu: thanks for clearing that up
[08:20] <fatejudger> me2win: and my screen just isn't showing it, because it isn't resizing
[08:20] <fatejudger> me2win: do you even understand what I'm talking about?
[08:20] <me2win> fatejudger: yes
[08:20] <fatejudger> me2win: it isn't that it doesn't show that shutdown GUI screen
[08:20] <fatejudger> me2win: it just hangs there
[08:20] <fatejudger> me2win: never shuts down
[08:20] <fatejudger> me2win: black screen
[08:20] <me2win> oh it HANGS at the gui for you?
[08:20] <me2win> or its just a black screen
[08:20] <fatejudger> me2win: just a black screen
[08:21] <me2win> hmm
[08:21] <fatejudger> me2win: I've left it alone for 20 minutes
[08:21] <fatejudger> me2win: nothing
[08:21] <fatejudger> me2win: I think an error is popping up
[08:21] <fatejudger> me2win: but I can't see it
[08:21] <me2win> fatejudger: wierd
[08:21] <fatejudger> me2win: maybe I should switch to VGA mode before I shut down
[08:21] <fatejudger> me2win: so that it resizes properly
[08:21] <fatejudger> me2win: and I can see any errors that crop up
[08:22] <httpdss> fatejudger: im using kubuntu dapper and sometimes when its trying to ifdown the network interfaces it gets stuck and then the black screen comes up :S .. maybe something similar is happening to you ??
[08:22] <me2win> fatejudger: not sure
[08:23] <fatejudger> httpdss: maybe, I'm going to switch to VGA mode next time before I shut down to see the error, if there is any
[08:23] <fatejudger> me2win: on your dad's laptop, does your network card act funny with network-manager on?
[08:23] <me2win> fatejudger: no
[08:23] <me2win> fatejudger: but he is running breezy
[08:23] <fatejudger> me2win: mine will suddenly show the disconnecting lights
[08:23] <me2win> not dapper
[08:23] <fatejudger> me2win: then turn back on
[08:23] <fatejudger> me2win: breezy doesn't have network-manager
[08:24] <fatejudger> me2win: I think you're thinking of something else
[08:24] <fatejudger> me2win: network manager just completely invalidates the need for a /etc/network/interfaces file
[08:24] <fatejudger> me2win: and controls all of your networking stuffs
[08:24] <me2win> hmm
[08:24] <fatejudger> all of this Zeroconf and network-manager stuff gets me nervous
[08:25] <fatejudger> I like being in control of the process
[08:26] <fatejudger> although I have to admit, it does a damn good job
[08:26] <fatejudger> it's so seamless, and you never have to think about it
[08:26] <fatejudger> it just works
[08:27] <mzinz> For some reason when Ubuntu is botting, it stalls on "initializing network interfaces" for about 3-5min... it happens 80% of the time.
[08:27] <mzinz> Anyone know why that might be?
[08:35] <HymnToLife> mzinz> probably it's configured to use DHCP but o DHCP server is running on your network
[08:35] <HymnToLife> you can press Ctrl+C to abort it
[08:35] <HymnToLife> no*
[08:42] <fatejudger> me2win: what's that command that show my partition stats?
[08:42] <fatejudger> me2win: like used space
[08:42] <HymnToLife> fatejudger> df
[08:42] <me2win> fatejudger: what he said ^
[08:43] <fatejudger> lol
[08:43] <fatejudger> I wish that KDE had that stuff built into Konq
[08:44] <fatejudger> I can't believe I've used 44% of my space already
[08:44] <me2win> fatejudger: how big is your HD?
[08:47] <fatejudger> me2win: 8 gig partition
[08:47] <me2win> fatejudger: ah
[08:47] <fatejudger> me2win: I have two office suites installed
[08:47] <fatejudger> me2win: kdevelop
[08:47] <fatejudger> me2win: and some other misc programs
[08:47] <fatejudger> me2win: didn't know it would take up so much space
[08:47] <me2win> ah
[08:47] <me2win> you should use Zend DE
[08:48] <me2win> its integrated with MySQL so you can search the DB inside the prog
[08:48] <mornfall> fatejudger: you're stupid
[08:48] <fatejudger> mornfall: you're gay
[08:48] <me2win> lol
[08:49] <fatejudger> ahahahaha
[08:49] <fatejudger> a new widget is out
[08:49] <fatejudger> KTerrorAlert
[08:49] <me2win> ?
[08:49] <me2win> LOL
[08:50] <me2win> fatejudger: dell 2405 for 789 shipped
[08:50] <fatejudger> I'm going to put it right next to my C> George Bush wallpaper
[08:50] <fatejudger> not bad
[08:50] <me2win> lol
[08:51] <fatejudger> or my "Who cares about capitalism when you can have relgious dogmatism." wallpaper
[08:51] <me2win> lol
[08:51] <fatejudger> hah, I need to make a wallpaper like that
[08:52] <me2win> fatejudger: did you see the House vs. God episode today?
[08:52] <fatejudger> no
[08:52] <fatejudger> I could have a picture of the pope or something
[08:52] <fatejudger> doing the thumbs up
[08:52] <fatejudger> and some money with the "crossed out" symbol on it
[08:53] <me2win> lol
[08:53] <fatejudger> damn, I need a funny picture of the pope
[08:53] <fatejudger> where am I going to find that?
[08:54] <me2win> which pope
[08:54] <me2win> the new one or the recently deceased one
[08:54] <fatejudger> it doesn't matter
[08:55] <fatejudger> just as long as it looks funny
[08:55] <fatejudger> I'm going to crop it and stick a white background behind it
[08:55] <fatejudger> with a shadow or something
[08:55] <fatejudger> and some money with a drop shadow
[08:55] <fatejudger> and then the text below
[08:55] <me2win> lol
[08:56] <fatejudger> it'll be great
[08:58] <fatejudger> damn, I can't find one
[08:58] <fatejudger> I guess I'll have to settle for something else
[08:58] <fatejudger> like a funny picture of George Bush
[08:58] <fatejudger> that'll suck though
[08:59] <fatejudger> I don't want to look like a damn hippy
[08:59] <me2win> loll
[09:00] <fatejudger> oh well, maybe inspiration will strike when I wake up tomorrow
[09:00] <me2win> or not
[09:03] <fatejudger> idiot
[09:06] <fatejudger> me2win: I'm pissed, they never fixed the problem with my Audigy 2 NX
[09:06] <fatejudger> me2win: I still can only play one sound stream at a time
[09:06] <me2win> lol
[09:15] <fatejudger> me2win: well I'm out
[09:15] <fatejudger> I'll cya
[09:15] <me2win> fatecya man
[09:36] <zambba> What do you like the most in Linux? What do you consider as pros with Linux?
[09:53] <nrdb> I am making a GUI using GTK+, I have a GtkEntry widget, I was wondering if it is posible to make it accept only numbers (i.e. 321.32) ?
[09:55] <claude> hello
[10:03] <GMullen> shit
[10:04] <GMullen> sorry worng window
[10:08] <nrdb> I am making a GUI using GTK+, I have a GtkEntry widget, I was wondering if it is posible to make it accept only numbers (i.e. 321.32) ?
[10:09] <twosouls82> run as different users is broken here, someone has this problem before?
[10:09] <twosouls82> user*
[10:13] <GMullen> is there a way to test a wireless connection without unpluging my wired connection
[10:22] <GMullen> where's the best place to get wireless connection help?
[10:40] <noodleman> hey
[10:53] <bobbin> Will KDissert/Semantik be put on the Dapper DVD?
[10:54] <visik7> how the boot splash of *ubuntu works ?
[11:13] <BearKnuckle> xserver-xorg-dev is installed, what else is missing? "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!" ?
[11:25] <truthseek> hiyo@ll
[11:26] <truthseek> I have a problem with my ati radeon all in wonder 9000
[11:26] <truthseek> I've followed the instructions on the wiki
[11:26] <twosouls82> people, someone ever written a KDE app on Kubuntu? I need automake 1.6 (http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/682592), apt only shows 1.4, 1.7, 1.8 and 1.9
[11:26] <truthseek> 1) sudo apt-get install fakeroot gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential debhelper
[11:27] <truthseek> 2) chmod +x ati-driver-installer-8.22.5-i386.run (a 29 mb file)
[11:28] <truthseek> but after selected the ubuntu distro I use (5.10 breezy) I get an error (vkpsc or something similar)
[11:28] <truthseek> what's wrong with my configuration?
[11:29] <truthseek> I've launched the ati installer with a sudo
[11:30] <truthseek> please help me :-) I've already googled a bit
[11:30] <truthseek> btw I'm on ubuntu with gnome and kde (I've installed later kde)
[11:33] <HymnToLife> truthseek> try to install your drivers the Ubuntu way
[11:33] <HymnToLife> !ati
[11:33] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[11:34] <truthseek> I'm using this now: wget https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9448/1m/dlmdownloads.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.18.6-i386.run --no-check-certificate --referer www.ati.com
[11:34] <leagris> hi all
[11:35] <HymnToLife> I guess it's better to follow the Wiki on it
[11:35] <truthseek> on the wiki the file were of 60megs.. and the file I've received is only 29
[11:35] <leagris> I experience bad behaviours with kmix when unplugging an usb audio device. Kmix takes 100% cpu.
[11:35] <leagris> any idea if there is a workaround other than quitting kmix before unplugging the USB audio headset ?
[11:35] <truthseek> the file I'm downloading now is 60 megs, I'll try it
[11:37] <BearKnuckle> I can't have transparency on my desktop. Things that used to be transparent only look kinda blur?
[11:41] <nico8481> hi
[11:47] <twosouls82> I just installed the updates that were available for Dapper, but now my size 9 font appears king size on my screen
[11:47] <twosouls82> see: http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7831/dapperafterupdatesize9fonthuge.png
[11:47] <twosouls82> how do I fix this, what caused it?
[11:51] <twosouls82> join #linux
[12:06] <Hattori> is there a way to resize monitor on kde?
[12:07] <Hattori> can't see some portion on the lower side of the monitor
[12:07] <Hattori> how to move/resize monitor screen?
[12:10] <krenx> Mornin
[12:49] <R3D3V1L> hi
[12:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[12:50] <R3D3V1L> I'm looking for the ubuntu support channel
[12:50] <R3D3V1L> I hope to be in the right place
[12:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubuntu in #ubuntu, kubuntu here
[12:50] <R3D3V1L> no...kubuntu is perfect then!
[12:51] <R3D3V1L> Is there anyone that can help me with my AC97 soundcard?
[12:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> Kool :). right spot
[12:51] <R3D3V1L> I've tryed everything but this "$%$%& card is not working
[12:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> um. cafergo isnt here atm. afaik hes the sound god. but i dont know bugger all about it
[12:51] <R3D3V1L> (...what a crappy card...on windows it plays mono....)
[12:52] <R3D3V1L> sorry, I haven't understood your last sentence...(sorry for my english but I'm italian)
[12:53] <kosh> a card so bad that under windows it only plays mono?
[12:53] <R3D3V1L> yeah
[12:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> R3D3V1L, is it ISA?
[12:53] <Snake[Sleep] > upgradee!!
[12:54] <R3D3V1L> no no...is integrated
[12:54] <kosh> R3D3V1L: have you considered spending about $30 on an sblive? that should work well under every os and solve all kinds of problems
[12:54] <R3D3V1L> I've got an old Asus CUV4X-M
[12:54] <Snake[Sleep] > upgradee!!
[12:54] <Snake[Sleep] > :P
[12:54] <R3D3V1L> and there is a VIAxxx chipset on it
[12:54] <R3D3V1L> ehrr....I think that I will upgrade
[12:54] <R3D3V1L> ok...let's see ebay :P
[12:55] <R3D3V1L> anyway...it's not a mono card
[12:55] <R3D3V1L> but in windows you can hear only one speaker
[12:55] <R3D3V1L> the other one produces only buzzy sounds
[12:55] <kosh> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829102003
[12:55] <R3D3V1L> I've tryed lots of different speakers but....it's the soundcard
[12:56] <R3D3V1L> Anyway...I've got an old P3 1000...I don't want an Audigy :)
[12:56] <R3D3V1L> 29$?
[12:56] <R3D3V1L> wow
[12:56] <R3D3V1L> thanks kosh!
[12:56] <R3D3V1L> Ah...there is a problem I guess...
[12:56] <R3D3V1L> I'm in italy :)
[12:56] <kosh> actually get the retail one
[12:57] <kosh> it is only $4 more :)
[12:57] <kosh> R3D3V1L: there has to be some computer store around you that will have something like that
[12:57] <kosh> R3D3V1L: my point is that stuff like the audigy and sblive cards are very cheap now
[12:57] <R3D3V1L> oh yeah :)
[12:57] <kosh> R3D3V1L: you will waste more then $35 in time trying to get what you have working
 R3D3V1L: you will waste more then $35 in time trying to get what you have working <-- that's right! I've got an exam this week!!
[12:58] <R3D3V1L> eheh...ok
[12:58] <R3D3V1L> so I will list to your advice :)
[12:58] <R3D3V1L> next question
[12:58] <R3D3V1L> I'd like to try XGL on kubuntu....
[12:59] <R3D3V1L> I have tryed to download xgl package from the unstable repository
[12:59] <kosh> umm you might want to work on your exam instead :)
[01:00] <R3D3V1L> but after the installation x did not want to start, so I had to reinstall everything
[01:00] <_mod> hallo, why cant my kaffein play mpeg's
[01:00] <R3D3V1L> ahah.... but it's a boring exam :)
[01:00] <_mod> i have installed nearly any mpg package... but still no change
[01:01] <_mod> if so would help me it would be nice
[01:01] <kosh> nah my point is that getting xgl to work well is probably too much trouble right now
[01:01] <kosh> _mod: no idea why it can't play them, I have not seen that problem and I just played some here
[01:02] <R3D3V1L> eheh...I think that you're right again kosh
[01:02] <R3D3V1L> and so I've downloaded Kororaa Live CD :)
[01:03] <R3D3V1L> now I'm gonna try it :)
[01:03] <_mod> and i only can play mp3 with xmms ... but i have to switch fromm oss to alsa... dont have any idea what i can change
[01:08] <s-toned> An usbstick plugged in is aoutomounted at /media/usbstick, and /media/sda1. How can I change this? (rgrep -i usbstick /etc didn't find anything)
[01:18] <R3D3V1L> thanks for your help, now I've got to leave
[01:18] <R3D3V1L> bye!
[01:47] <Seantater> jarle: go to ~/.kde
[01:48] <Seantater> jarle: in konqueror
[01:48] <Seantater> jarle: still there?
[01:48] <jarle> Seantater: and do what?
[01:49] <Seantater> jarle: no go to Autostart
[01:49] <Seantater> jarle: s/no/now
[01:50] <Seantater> jarle: OK, press alt-f2, and type in kcontrol
[01:51] <Seantater> jarle: In kcontrol, open "KDE Components"
[01:52] <Seantater> jarle: In "KDE Components", open "File Manager"
[01:52] <Seantater> jarle: Still there?
[01:52] <jarle> Seantater: so far so good :)
[01:53] <Seantater> jarle: Sorry, I'm not entirely awake .. :P Instead of "file Manager", in "KDE Components", open "File Associations"
[01:53] <Seantater> jarle: In that, go to Application
[01:53] <jarle> Seantater: not quite sure what you are trying to show me? How to use Konsole for /var/log/messages or something else?
[01:55] <Seantater> jarle: In the big picture, I'm adding a schellscript handler, BASH, and placing a BASH script into ~/.kde/Autostart, so that it will start every time KDE starts
[01:56] <Seantater> jarle: Is that what you wanted, or am I way off? 
[01:57] <jarle> Seantater: that is part of what I wanted, but also I'm trying to figure out if I should use Konsole or some other program to display the log. I would like a semi-transparent, no-border window with a small scrollbar, the Scrollbar in Konsole is a bit too big for my taste..
[01:58] <Seantater> I'm afraid that's not easy to fit into a sh script
[01:58] <Seantater> Hum...
[01:58] <waylandbill> jarle: you should look at KDE's wiki that shows the different command line switches to affect how a window is displayed. That should help you with no borders and such...
[01:59] <momo3> instruction Google Adsense--> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Google.htm                 Download Firefox -->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/FireFox7.htm
[01:59] <Seantater> Sry -- I've got to go...
[02:00] <jarle> waylandbill: I'm okay with all the no-border, semi-transp stuff, it's only the scrollbar that I'm not happy with...
[02:01] <Seantater> jarle: I think that's the most difficult pert to implement
[02:01] <waylandbill> jarle: you want to remove the scrollbar?
[02:02] <jarle> waylandbill: I just want to change it so that it is not so dominant in exactly this log-window... maybe I should just go for Eterm anyway...
[02:03] <jarle> waylandbill: I still want a scrollbar, but the one Konsole has is to big and I can only hide it or put it on left/right side of the window, no way to change the look on just this window?
[02:04] <visik7> !easyubuntu
[02:04] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[02:11] <Seantater> jarle: Im not guessing you can change that.. sorry...
[02:20] <jarle> How do I get Konqueror to show a preview of my .mpg files in IconView?
[02:28] <Seantater> jarle: Try installing kipi-plugins
[02:33] <jarle> Seantater: what is kipi-plugins?
[02:35] <Seantater> jarle: it's a image manipulation library for KDE, but it does movies too..
[02:42] <jarle> How big is a typical /lib dir in Ubuntu ?
[02:43] <jarle> I only have a 170MB / which is already filled to the rim, so I guess I have to move /lib to a different partition...
[02:44] <skjdf> 147mb for me
[02:45] <Dr3as> anyone that can recommend a program to view tv on, with my tvcard pvr-500 or something
[02:47] <jarle> Any reason not to have /lib and /usr/lib in one dir?
[02:49] <waylandbill> jarle, / and /usr could be on different partitions on some systems.
[02:51] <_sonic> Hi there I'm trying to do an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and I keep getting the following message:
[02:51] <_sonic>  E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[02:51] <_sonic> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[02:51] <kkathman> use sudo
[02:51] <_sonic> I did
[02:52] <kkathman> sudo apt-get update  ....
[02:52] <jarle> waylandbill: I have / and /usr on different partitions, used to be running Mandrake, /usr is apx 6GB while / is only 170MB so /lib is quite full when running Ubuntu... guess Ubuntu uses /lib more than Mandrake used to..
[02:53] <_sonic> kkathman: The update works fine, I think it's the upgrade thats having the problem
[02:53] <slow-motion> hallo
[02:53] <waylandbill> jarle, I came from Mandrake too. :-)
[02:53] <kkathman> you have to sudo both
[02:53] <kkathman> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get ....
[02:53] <waylandbill> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:54] <sonic> AAAHhhhhh, I thought the one sudo would do
[02:54] <sonic> Thanks!
[02:54] <jarle> waylandbill: I was getting tired of the growing commercialism in Mandrake, changed to Ubuntu yesterday so I still have some tweeking to do, but its looking good so far!
[02:55] <waylandbill> that's because the && doesn't make it one command. it's two commands with the && a short circuit in case the first fails.
[02:56] <waylandbill> jarle, yes. I left Mandrake since they've went the way of Linspire.
[02:56] <slow-motion> what is the way of linspire?
[02:57] <kkathman> yeah I think thats what I said :)
[02:57] <kkathman> lol
[02:57] <waylandbill> "way of linspire" = give you a running desktop system with nothing and charge you to add anything else.
[02:59] <kkathman> mandrake's mantra is to be "the" desktop linux solution so it fits their strategy
[03:00] <kkathman> but they dont have the economic base to do so I dont think
[03:00] <waylandbill> the problem of someone's strategy though, is it doesn't fit the freedom ideal
[03:00] <kkathman> eh thats all rhetoric anyway
[03:03] <waylandbill> HA! who knew installing Lynx would put a menu item for it.. lol
[03:07] <jarle> oups! How do I fix this: I copied /lib to a different partition, then deleted /lib and was going to make a symbolic link to the new partition, but as I have deleted /lib no commands work!
[03:07] <jarle> "bash: /bin/ln: No such file or directory"
[03:07] <kkathman> letcopy it back?
[03:08] <kkathman> hehe
[03:08] <jarle> cp don't work...
[03:09] <kkathman> ohh hehe yeah you have no commands
[03:09] <waylandbill> jarle, yipes... worst comes to worst you can use a live cd or install cd to get an emergency shell to make the link from
[03:09] <kkathman> ouch
[03:09] <kkathman> hopefully you have another computer networked, or can burn a live CD
[03:11] <waylandbill> all you need is a shell that's enough to mount the partition and make the link. Could be almost any distro CD that you can bring up a console.
[03:12] <kkathman> rule #1 in linux - always have a live CD :) hehe
[03:12] <v3ctor> lcconfig -n /new/lib/location
[03:12] <v3ctor> ldconfig*
[03:12] <v3ctor> or sudo ldconfig -n /new/lib/location
[03:14] <jarle> v3ctor: Doesn't work as I have no working commands....
[03:14] <jarle> Guess I have to fire up my ubuntu Live CD...
[03:14] <v3ctor> yup
[03:14] <kkathman> that would be thing to do yes
[03:15] <jarle> I'm off then, see you soon :)
[03:16] <waylandbill> good luck. :-D
[03:24] <_master> hi
[03:31] <jarle> Now Im back from within Ubuntu Live CD... How do I go about making the symbolic link, should it point to /usr/store/lib *as it will be called on the system, or should it point to /mnt/hdc1/store/lib as it is called while running from this LIVE CD
[03:32] <jarle> Is a symbolic link stored as a directory link, or is it a link directly to a file on a specific device
[03:35] <synie> hello
[03:36] <synie> i'm using a Logitech MouseMan. The sidebutton works, but Quake3 interprets it as "Button3". But the Mousewheel is Button3. How can i fix this ?
[03:57] <Toran> I'm having problems building the latest version of Amarok, could someone please have a look? http://pastebin.ca/raw/51492
[04:02] <yuma> hi
[04:03] <markrian> I'm having some trouble with KMail - I can't seem to send any messages with it.
[04:03] <markrian> I get the error "Unrecognised transport protocol"
[04:03] <yuma> does anyone have this problem: when i close and open the lid of the laptop it corrupts my screen
[04:03] <yuma> i'm using i810 module of X
[04:04] <yuma> and the latest dapper X package
[05:13] <Seantater> Why do the names in Konversation have colors?
[05:13] <Seantater> They seem random..
[05:15] <trappist> if it's anything like xchat, it's not quite random, but it's there to make it easier to see who's saying what
[05:26] <vge> hmm, can somebody say a easy way to count words in text document?
[05:26] <vge> can kate do it?
[05:31] <klet> Anyone here know if it is possible to have your trashcan on the desktop instead of the systray in kubuntu dapper?
[05:36] <Oli> HIya, just apt-get'ed mysql server, trying to start it up, without look evenwith the start script or just mysqld_safe it starts and instantly shutsdown...no interessting loogs, next step to try? Some other friend has exact the same issue - any hints?
[05:38] <Kleggas> Anyone here know if it is possible to have your trashcan on the desktop instead of the systray in kde 3.5.2? or has that feature been disabled and systray is the only option?
[05:38] <ep> What's the proper way to "unplug" my usb flash drive?
[05:38] <Kleggas> ep: unmount it then remove
[05:42] <ep> as a normal user "unmount /media/usbx", Is this right?  How do i know what whether it's usb0 or usb1?  It mounted automatically when i plugged it in.
[05:43] <Seantater> ep: do dir /media/usb
[05:43] <Seantater> ep: it will tell you what options you have
[05:44] <Kleggas> mine allways mounts as 7dev/sda1 :p but don't you have a desktop icon for the drive? the icon has a menu option for it, or it should have
[05:44] <teqel> does sobebody speak polish?
[05:45] <Seantater> teqel: Probablt not here, but ubuntu might help you find a challel of people who can
[05:45] <Seantater> !pl
[05:45] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:45] <Seantater> was that right?
[05:45] <teqel> thanks for help
[05:50] <BearKnuckle> Anyone else having problems with the latest xorg-update?
[06:03] <Pupeno> How do I prevent kscd from running when I insert a CD ?
[06:06] <Pupeno> nobody knows ?
[06:06] <ninHer> hi all
[06:07] <mhterres> hi
[06:07] <Pupeno> ok, rm /usr/bin/kscd will do it.
[06:09] <thoreauputic> Pupeno: that's a sledgehammer solution
[06:09] <Pupeno> I know, but I need a solution fast.
[06:10] <thoreauputic> Pupeno: you could do sudo chmod -x /usr/bin/kscd
[06:10] <thoreauputic> at least that's easy to reverse
[06:10] <v3ctor> or you could edit the setting on kscd
[06:10] <Pupeno> thoreauputic: nice idea, but too late.
[06:10] <Pupeno> v3ctor: what settings 'on kscd' ?
[06:10] <v3ctor> uncheck the autoplay box
[06:10] <thoreauputic> but I expect there's a setting in kcontrol anyway
[06:11] <v3ctor> extras > configure kscd
[06:11] <thoreauputic> Pupeno: you just blew the executable away - rather extreme :)
[06:11] <Pupeno> thoreauputic: I would too, but I can't find it.
[06:11] <Pupeno> thoreauputic: I know what I did.
[06:11] <thoreauputic> *shrug*
[06:12] <Pupeno> damn... audiocd still doesn't work.
[06:12] <bo_tux> ssalut tout le monde, j'ai un probleme sur kubuntu que je viens tout juste d'installer, il ne dtecte pas ma cle usb
[06:12] <thoreauputic> !fr
[06:12] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:12] <DeadS0ul> salut!
[06:12] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:12] <bo_tux> salut !
[06:13] <DeadS0ul> I dobut I can make a setence in french now, it's been 9 years
[06:13] <bo_tux> ok
[06:14] <bo_tux> peux-tu m'aider ?
[06:14] <DeadS0ul> je disolee, je ne said pas
[06:14] <bo_tux> tanpis...
[06:14] <DeadS0ul> s/said/sais
[06:15] <bo_tux> I understood you !
[06:15] <DeadS0ul> parlez vous anglais?
[06:16] <bo_tux> I speak english but my vocabulary is limited
[06:16] <DeadS0ul> better than my friench
[06:16] <DeadS0ul> did you say that you just installed kubuntu but  you're having trouble with usb?
[06:16] <DeadS0ul> it's not detecting your what...?
[06:16] <thoreauputic> bo_tux: y a pas beaucoup do gens ici qui peuvent t'aider en franais
[06:17] <thoreauputic> *de
[06:17] <evil-doer> bibliotheque
[06:17] <v3ctor> lol
[06:17] <DeadS0ul> that's library isnt' ti!
[06:17] <bo_tux> yes that's why I write english now...
[06:17] <DeadS0ul> I remember merde!
[06:17] <bo_tux> yessss !!
[06:17] <bo_tux> you understood me very well !
[06:18] <DeadS0ul> yeah, good memory, lousy grammar
[06:18] <bo_tux> so my usb key is not detected by kubuntu...
[06:19] <DeadS0ul> type dmesg | tail
[06:19] <DeadS0ul> ..wait taht only works iwth udev
[06:19] <DeadS0ul> do you have hal installed?
[06:20] <bo_tux> hal demon ?
[06:20] <DeadS0ul> yeah
[06:20] <bo_tux> I saw it yeah
[06:20] <bo_tux> it's installed
[06:21] <DeadS0ul> and you tried typing media:/ in konq?
[06:22] <bo_tux> in media/ there is not my usb key I just have looked
[06:23] <bo_tux> I work essentially in the console
[06:23] <ep> what's the utilities (gui and cli) which show the files using up disk space?
[06:23] <DeadS0ul> kwikdisk and df
[06:24] <DeadS0ul> what do you see when you to dmesg | tail -n 20
[06:24] <bo_tux> only my partitions on the hard disk
[06:24] <bo_tux> I reboot and I am in Windows XP now...
[06:25] <DeadS0ul> alright
[06:25] <DeadS0ul> when you plug in your usb key
[06:25] <bo_tux> but I can reboot again
[06:26] <DeadS0ul> check what dmesg | tail -n 20 says, it should say that a disk has be detected and should name it sda or sdb etc etc
[06:27] <DeadS0ul> make sure you have hal and kde 3.5.2 and i think you need at least kernel version 2.6.12
[06:29] <bo_tux> for kde I've  updated it just after the installation and my kernel is 2.6.14.3 it seems
[06:30] <bo_tux> I reboot my system to be on kubuntu, do you wait during my rebooting ?
[06:30] <DeadS0ul> oui!
[06:30] <DeadS0ul> or is that, bien sur!...
[06:30] <DeadS0ul> or..
[06:30] <thoreauputic> bo_tux: erm, that doesn't look like an ubuntu kernel - maybe udev support is not compiled with that ?
[06:30] <DeadS0ul> hmm I forget
[06:31] <bo_tux> I will give you all details in 5 minutes...
[06:31] <thoreauputic> d'accord :)
[06:32] <DeadS0ul> ah that
[06:33] <gonzalo> Wolas
[06:33] <DeadS0ul> meh I'll get him to do apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-686-20
[06:34] <visik7> anyone got kwin crask on kde3.5.2 breezy ?
[06:35] <DeadS0ul> naw but I could try
[06:37] <bo_tux> It's re-me !
[06:39] <DeadS0ul> wb
[06:39] <DeadS0ul> plug in the usb key
[06:39] <DeadS0ul> and type in dmesg | tail -n 20
[06:39] <bo_tux> yes
[06:40] <DeadS0ul> any mention of sda ?
[06:40] <bo_tux> my usb key doesn't here...
[06:40] <bo_tux> no sda
[06:40] <DeadS0ul> nothing =|
[06:40] <DeadS0ul> lsmod | grep usb_storage
[06:41] <bo_tux> no
[06:41] <DeadS0ul> usb_storage            79488  1
[06:41] <DeadS0ul> scsi_mod              145448  4 microtek,sg,sd_mod,usb_storage
[06:41] <DeadS0ul> you see anything liek that?
[06:42] <bo_tux> neither
[06:42] <DeadS0ul> modprobe usb_storage
[06:42] <bo_tux> no
[06:42] <DeadS0ul> type that in
[06:43] <DeadS0ul> and then do dmesg | tail -n 20 again
[06:43] <DeadS0ul> any mention of sda?
[06:43] <bo_tux> wait please
[06:44] <bo_tux> no mention of sda or usb
[06:44] <ep> How do I unmount my usb flash drive so I can unplug it?
[06:44] <DeadS0ul> umount /path/to/dir
[06:45] <DeadS0ul> god dammit
[06:45] <bo_tux> lol
[06:45] <DeadS0ul> you ran modprobe usb_storage?
[06:45] <bo_tux> yes just before dmesg
[06:45] <DeadS0ul> lsmod | grep usb_storage
[06:45] <DeadS0ul> did it load?
[06:46] <bo_tux> what ?
[06:46] <DeadS0ul> when you do lsmod | usb_storage, do you get any output?
[06:47] <ep>  umount: /media/sda1 is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
[06:47] <bo_tux> "usb_storage is not a command"
[06:48] <thoreauputic> erm -  lsmod | grep usb_storage
[06:48] <ep> I didn't have to be root to mount it (the usb drive mounted automatically when I plugged it in) why do I have to be root to unmount it?
[06:48] <ep> thoreauputic: are you speaking to me?
[06:48] <thoreauputic> ep:  pumount /dev/sda1
[06:49] <DeadS0ul> oops
[06:49] <bo_tux> erm = command not found
[06:49] <ep> what is pumount?
[06:49] <thoreauputic> bo_tux: hehe - no that's like *cough*
[06:49] <bo_tux> what is hotplug ?
[06:49] <thoreauputic> bo_tux: leave out the "erm"
[06:50] <DeadS0ul> bo_tux you don't want hotplug, you want udev
[06:50] <thoreauputic> ep: pumount/ pmount are user commands for mounting devices like usb sticks
[06:50] <DeadS0ul> thoreauputic: really?
[06:51] <thoreauputic> DeadS0ul: really
[06:51] <DeadS0ul> i just use mount =D
[06:51] <DeadS0ul> udev kinda fixed the permissions for me
[06:52] <ep> pumount doesn't work either: /media/sda1$ pumount /dev/sda1 | umount: /media/sda1: device is busy | umount: /media/sda1: device is busy
[06:52] <DeadS0ul> ep: fuser /media/sda1
[06:52] <thoreauputic> ep: do you have the directory open?
[06:52] <DeadS0ul> that should telll you who's using the device
[06:52] <ep> yes :-)
[06:52] <DeadS0ul> heh get outta the dir
[06:52] <ep> in kong perhaps
[06:52] <bo_tux> but I've installed udev yet !!
[06:53] <thoreauputic> ep: well get out of it - you can't unmount a directory that's in use
[06:53] <bo_tux> usbutils must be installed ?
[06:54] <DeadS0ul> bo_tux naw
[06:54] <DeadS0ul> bo_tux: where did you get your kernel? did you download it?
[06:54] <DeadS0ul> um, compile it yourself?
[06:55] <bo_tux> no , from a live cd
[06:55] <DeadS0ul> ah
[06:55] <ep> Ok I closed konq file browser, I also closed a kwikdisk window (its still in the task tray however). I'm still getting a "device is busy" message.
[06:55] <DeadS0ul> try upgrading to the latest kernel
[06:55] <thoreauputic> bo_tux: why would you use a non-ubuntu kernel?
[06:56] <DeadS0ul> apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-20-686
[06:56] <bo_tux> what's the command to know what kernel I get ?
[06:56] <thoreauputic> DeadS0ul: that only works if you havedapper sources
[06:56] <thoreauputic> bo_tux:  uname -a
[06:56] <v3ctor> uname -r
[06:57] <thoreauputic> either
[06:57] <DeadS0ul> i should go to bed, I'm too sleepy to help out
[06:57] <bo_tux> I have the 2.6.12-9-936
[06:58] <bo_tux> but it is a kubuntu kernel
[06:58] <bo_tux> I have it in a magazine
[06:58] <DeadS0ul> g'nite guys
[06:58] <bo_tux> you tooo !
[06:59] <DeadS0ul> bon nuit!
[06:59] <bo_tux> lol !!!!
[06:59] <ep> Anything else i can try? /media/sda1$ fuser /media/sda1 '\nl' /dev/.static/dev: Permission denied '\nl' /media/sda1:         10044c
[06:59] <thoreauputic> ep: get *out* of /media/sda1 !
[07:00] <thoreauputic> ep: you are still using the mount point directory
[07:00] <thoreauputic> ep:  type cd
[07:00] <DeadS0ul> ep: if you do pwd and it spits out /media/sda1, smack yourself one and type cd .. && umount /dev/sda1
[07:00] <thoreauputic>   /media/sda1$   <<< he's still in there
[07:01] <ep> ok :-)
[07:04] <ep> Finally, no complaints on "pumount /media/sda1/"  However, I wish I would of use a verbose option.  How can I verify that its unmounted before I unplug?  I'm trying to learn here. Sorry to be a pest.
[07:09] <_thumper_> Anyone here up for a couple of questions?
[07:10] <thoreauputic> ep: tail -f /var/log/messages while inserting, then if you pumount you'll see it is unmounted > Also, if /media/sda1 is empty, it's unmounted (assuming the usb device contained data)
[07:11] <thoreauputic> !ask
[07:11] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[07:13] <TehUni> ls
[07:13] <TehUni> oops, heh
[07:14] <slow-motion> bye
[07:14] <Pyre>  Hasta luego, amigo.
[07:14] <ep> ok thanks for the helpfull info
[07:21] <_vincent> Could someone help me configuring my RT2400 wireless card ?
[07:24] <KAOS_JNR> good afternoon everyone i was wondering if someone could help me???
[07:24] <trip> just ask, if someone can help they will
[07:25] <KAOS_JNR> i'm a complete linux noob and i d/led kubuntu and burnt to a disk but it wont boot any ideas???
[07:26] <DeadS0ul> youdid burnas image right..you didn't just burn the iso onto the cd
[07:26] <Blissex> KAOS_JNR: most probably you burned it as a file. You probably need to burn it as an image.
[07:26] <Blissex> KAOS_JNR: to burn as an image: most burning programs have that as a special option.
[07:28] <KAOS_JNR> i used the iso that i downloaded in nero as a image not sure if it has a boot.bin???
[07:28] <_marco> ldap users?
[07:29] <Blissex> KAOS_JNR: the image will have boot code. Can you see inside the image? It should have a couple dozen files and directories...
[07:29] <Blissex> KAOS_JNR: more precisely: does the CD has a couple dozen files and directories?
[07:33] <KAOS_JNR> blis it has 10 folders 3 files
[07:33] <_marco> ldap users?
[07:39] <GMullen> is there a way to increase screen resolution?
[07:41] <noch> tell noch about editing xerver
[07:41] <noch> tell noch about editing xserver
[07:41] <noch> =/
[07:41] <noch> rabble rabble rabble
[07:41] <WhyM> GMullen : You have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:41] <noch> hey, real quick, whats the command to edit the xserver?
[07:42] <noch> liek sudo kgpd xcong-xserver
[07:42] <HymnToLife> noch> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:42] <noch> ahh thx
[07:45] <GMullen> do i want to use the kernel framebuffer device interface?
[07:48] <rus> hi all
[07:49] <rus> im trying to install a package without dependancy
[07:49] <rus> dpkg --ignore-depends=cedega -i cedega_5.1_i386.deb
[07:49] <rus> it keeps telling me that dependancies are unsatisfied
[07:50] <rus> where am i wrong
[07:50] <rus> ?
[08:00] <uniq> rus: installing a package without depends? Why would you want to do that? The program will probably not work.
[08:02] <_wombat> hi, is there an easy way to open kate with sudo.. it generally crashes when i try it from terminal
[08:04] <rus> because xlibs is not in my distro
[08:04] <rus> dapper that is
[08:05] <_wombat> hi
[08:19] <WhyM> _wombat> kdesu kate
[08:21] <Patrick_> HEY; HERE'S A TIP:
[08:21] <Patrick_> SHUT UP.
[08:21] <_wombat> archeers WhyM
[08:21] <_wombat> a la thx
[08:21] <Patrick_> YOU'RE WELCOME.
[08:21] <Patrick_> ANYTIME.
[08:21] <HymnToLife> !ops
[08:21] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[08:21] <Patrick_> GLAD I WAS OF ASSITANCE.
[08:22] <HymnToLife> ooops, I meant
[08:22] <HymnToLife> Patrick_> drop the caps please
[08:22] <Patrick_> OH, RIGHT.
[08:22] <nalioth> Patrick_: weren't you warned about that in #ubuntu ?
[08:25] <_wombat> kdesu kate just make it crash
[08:26] <_wombat> maybe it needs a root user and not just the kubuntu admin account
[08:26] <WhyM> What does it say ?
[08:26] <_wombat> zip, just drops out
[08:26] <HymnToLife> weird...
[08:26] <HymnToLife> kdesu works fine here
[08:27] <WhyM> for me to, even with a normal user
[08:27] <_wombat> from terminal? i tried it in the run dialogue
[08:27] <WhyM> yep
[08:28] <_wombat> ah sweet, thankyou very much.. works fine in terminal.. run dialogue it pops a valve
[08:29] <_wombat> :) betta than vim for a newby
[08:30] <WhyM> Good, but I've just tried with the run applet and it works just fine for me... There must be something to do with your dialogue...
[08:30] <_wombat> yeah, have'nt mod it er anything
[08:32] <WhyM> Anyway, as a complete noob, I'm glad I could give my first relevant advice :-)
[08:32] <_wombat> lol, really i spent hours cause im not familiar with its workings
[08:33] <visik7> am I the onlyone who got kwin crash on kde 3.5.2 ?
[08:33] <_wombat> I had Damn Small Linux before this, it was ok... super fast in RAM
[08:35] <_wombat> ok, thankyou lots and cya
[08:40] <ph8> hi guys, does anyone know whether i can upgrade kubuntu to dapper?
[08:40] <tsdgeos> !dapper
[08:40] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[08:41] <ph8> i'm there
[08:41] <ph8> they sent me here
[08:41] <tsdgeos> lol
[08:41] <tsdgeos> ok
[08:41] <tsdgeos> iirc basically you have to edit /etc/apt/sources.dontRemebem and change all breezy to dapper
[08:41] <tsdgeos> nothin anything kubuntu specific
[08:41] <ph8> will do cheers
[08:44] <GMullen> can someone help me unf*** up my system one of my "firends" had me switch to Gnome and now I can't seem to boot past the GDM login/password
[08:44] <GMullen> it also locksup when i try and change to failsafe
[08:45] <ph8> can you ctrl+alt+F1 to another desktop from the login screen that you can't get past?
[08:45] <GMullen> 1 sec
[08:46] <ph8> s/desktop/terminal
[08:46] <GMullen> no
[08:46] <vge> i guess this is a stupid question, but how does apt-get actually work? i can get updates to running items, how are they applyed?
[08:47] <v3ctor> try all of the f keys
[08:47] <GMullen> nothing
[08:47] <MEtaLpREs> is there any word of a possible final release date of dapper? or an estimate? like a week or 2 weeks or a month or more?
[08:48] <vge> !dapper
[08:48] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[08:48] <v3ctor> lesson #1 - never fall for the `try gnome, it's great` trick
[08:48] <MEtaLpREs> ok thanks
[08:49] <GMullen> heh
[08:49] <GMullen> i'll try to remember that
[08:49] <GMullen> it my system hosed(i.e.would it be faster to just reinstall)
[08:50] <GMullen> is*
[08:53] <uros> hi all - does anybody know if i could use kmail and epiphany simultaneously - as in when in gnome ep. and when in KDE kmail - but to have both save to same files (so both would be synchronised)
[08:54] <uros> not epiphany, evolution of course
[08:54] <gix> hi
[08:54] <gix> i've problem
[08:55] <mhterres> hi
[08:55] <gix> can i past here?
[08:55] <mhterres> what's the problem ?
[08:55] <gix> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[08:55] <gix> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[08:55] <gix>         LANGUAGE = "it_IT:it:en_GB:en",
[08:55] <gix>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[08:55] <gix>         LANG = "it_IT.UTF-8"
[08:55] <gix>     are supported and installed on your system.
[08:55] <gix> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[08:55] <gix> this
[08:55] <mhterres> hmmm
[08:56] <vge> how can i create a userwide shortcut to a program that i can run from every folder i wish like i can ls or cd commands?
[08:56] <uniq> gix: apt-get install locales, if it's installed 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow locales'
[08:56] <Snake[Sleep] > !seen kkathman
[08:56] <ubotu> kkathman <n=kkathman@pool-72-64-82-112.dllstx.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 4h 45m 41s ago, saying: 'wow Packard Bell is still making stuff?? hehe'.
[08:56] <uniq> vge: add the path to the directory where the binary is, to $PATH.
[08:57] <vge> in .bash?
[08:57] <BearKnuckle> Can anyone explain why "glxgears" does not have a fps-output in dapper?
[08:57] <uniq> vge: in .bash_profile for example.
[08:57] <vge> uniq: i tought there would be easier way, ok ty
[08:58] <gix> locale is installed
[08:58] <mzinz> I used to use Gnome exclusively, then I installed and tried KDE and I love it.  Do I still need Gnome? Or is there a way to get rid of it, along with the programs that are for Gnome that I no longer need?
[08:58] <gix> but the problem
[08:58] <mzinz> Or would that be 'not-so-smart'
[08:59] <uniq> vge: you can just make a directory called 'bin' in your homedir ~/bin/ and put the executable in there.
[08:59] <uniq> then bash should pick it up automatically.
[08:59] <vge> naah, i guess thats not so "neet"
[09:03] <vge> hmm, how do i actually add a new variable to $PATH in .bash_profile? I used to do it someway, have forgotten :)
[09:03] <v3ctor>  export PATH=$PATH:/new/path
[09:04] <v3ctor> appends the new path to the end of old path
[09:04] <vge> that for every new variable i want to add?
[09:04] <v3ctor> that will work for any variable
[09:04] <profke> hi everybody... :-)
[09:05] <v3ctor> export DOG=cat
[09:05] <profke> could someone please help me upgrading to kde 3.52? I've posted on the forum to, but I get nowhere...
[09:06] <Tm_T> !kde3.5.2
[09:06] <ubotu> hmm... kde3.5.2 is to upgrade to KDE3.5.2, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[09:06] <vge> well, messing with path has cribbled my system once, i was forced to use VI to fix it ^^
[09:06] <profke> obuty: yeah, I tried... but it keeps telling me that I have packages held back...
[09:06] <profke> sorry, i meant obutu, of course :-)
[09:07] <profke> obutu: it seems all of kde 3.52 is 'kept back', but I cannot understand why.....
[09:08] <vge> can i "restart" my bash other than restarting computer?
[09:09] <v3ctor> log out and log back in
[09:09] <v3ctor> or source the profile
[09:09] <vge> killing x is enough?
[09:09] <GMullen> what xorg server modules should i have loaded by default?
[09:09] <v3ctor>  . ~/.bash_profile
[09:09] <v3ctor> vge: you can just log out...no need to kill x
[09:10] <docta_v> heh restart your computer to pick up bash_profile changes...that's silly
[09:10] <[IRCbot>  Hello! Je suis IRCbot!
[09:10] <vge> docta_v: world is full of silly things, thanx
[09:10] <docta_v> vge: the only time you ever restart is for a kernel upgrade
[09:10] <profke> please, does anyone know what I can do about 'packages kept back"?
[09:10] <uniq> it's not silly, just unneccessary.
[09:11] <profke> (i m not new to linux, just to debian :-) )
[09:11] <uros> q: how do i create a symlink from one dir to other?
[09:11] <Snake__> [IRCbot: are you a bot?
[09:11] <v3ctor> profke: try using adept?
[09:11] <uniq> uros: ln -s source dest
[09:11] <v3ctor>  ln -s /source /destination
[09:11] <uros> uniq: tnx
[09:11] <profke> v3ctor: yeah, I tried that... but it says the packages are 'upgradable', but when I try, it says they will break the system...
[09:12] <picca> does the kubuntu dapper beta support WPA in its network manager gui thing?
[09:12] <profke> v3ctor: at least, it says 'break', and won;t upgrade...
[09:13] <v3ctor> profke: no clue..i followed the instruction posted ealier and it worked
[09:13] <v3ctor> you on dapper or breezy?
[09:13] <profke> v3ctor: lucky you :-)
[09:13] <profke> v3ctor: huh;... I downloaded 5.10 - is that enogh information?
[09:13] <v3ctor> yes
[09:14] <profke> v3ctor: should that still work?
[09:14] <v3ctor> yes
[09:14] <profke> v3ctor: damn :-)
[09:15] <profke> v3ctor: I don't get it - i installed no strange things, nothing, only apache 2 and mysql... that should be no problem, I hope :-(
[09:15] <v3ctor> those should not have any impact on kde
[09:15] <[IRCbot>  Hello! Je suis IRCbot!
[09:15] <profke> v3ctor: that's what i thought :-)
[09:17] <profke> anybody else have any idea?
[09:18] <mornfall> profke: pastebin of apt-get output?
[09:20] <profke> mornfall: pastebin does not mean anything to me, but I can quote what apt-get says?
[09:20] <GMullen> how do i set GDM ad the default or do i need to ask that in #unbuntu
[09:20] <mornfall> profke: rafb.net/paste
[09:20] <profke> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:20] <mornfall> profke: give us the resulting url
[09:21] <mornfall> just don't paste the whole output into the channel pretty please
[09:21] <profke> mornfall: i type this in konqueror?
[09:21] <mornfall> it's an url yes
[09:21] <MEtaLpREs> so i put in the dapper dekstop cd, booted up, everything seemed good, then around the time when it should go to the login screen my monitor goes black and powers down like theres no signal from the vid card and doesnt go any further,  i tried switch it to my onboard video and still nothing, any idea on why i cant get a display?
[09:22] <profke> mornfall: http://rafb.net/paste/results/l0sfxV80.html
[09:22] <profke> mornfall: this is a new trick for me :-)
[09:23] <v3ctor> good trick to learn ;)
[09:23] <profke> yeah :p-))
[09:23] <nico8481> re
[09:24] <mornfall> profke: can you also paste your sources.list? and apt-cache policy kdelibs4c2 and maybe output of apt-get install kdelibs4c2
[09:25] <MEtaLpREs> no one has any thoughts on a solution?
[09:26] <profke> sources.list: http://rafb.net/paste/results/89qofh99.html
[09:28] <profke> (i did the exact instructions on the site, but... no luck!)
[09:28] <Lolapela> is some one here?
[09:29] <profke> mornfall: apt-cache policy kdelibs4c2: http://rafb.net/paste/results/mGaEBn88.html
[09:29] <profke> lolapela: yeah, sure :-)
[09:29] <mornfall> interesting
[09:29] <profke> mornfall.... well... that's one way of putting it :-)
[09:30] <mornfall> profke: and apt-get install kdelibs4c2 says?
[09:30] <Lolapela> its kubuntu good for laptops?
[09:30] <mornfall> Lolapela: define being good for laptops
[09:31] <profke> mornfall: http://rafb.net/paste/results/FovJPn52.html
[09:31] <profke> lolapela: well, it works on mine :-)
[09:31] <Xemanth^^> Lolapela: depends about laptop
[09:31] <mornfall> profke: use sudo, obviously ;)
[09:31] <Xemanth^^> Lolapela: works fine for my Acer 5024wlmi
[09:31] <profke> mornfall: sorry :-)
[09:32] <profke> mornfall: http://rafb.net/paste/results/zc0BPL72.html
[09:32] <mornfall> profke: that's it
[09:32] <profke> mornfall: still geting used to sudo :-)
[09:32] <profke> mornfall: i used to be on MDK, with a root-user....
[09:33] <Lolapela> i mean.. i wanna get a good performance... and i dont know what dist use...
[09:33] <mornfall> profke: apt-cache policy libavahi-client1
[09:33] <profke> mornfall: none installed....
[09:33] <mornfall> profke: forget it
[09:33] <mornfall> profke: just add universe to repos and it shall work
[09:34] <mornfall> (don't forget to sudo apt-get update after adding the repo)
[09:34] <Xemanth^^> Lolapela: depends what laptop do you have, if you have nvidia graphics and new laptop you will get
[09:34] <profke> mornfall: huh.... ok... can you be a bit more specific?
[09:34] <Xemanth^^> Lolapela: with ati these days 3d graphics are o.k.
[09:34] <profke> mornfall: standard there seem to be 2 universe reposiories, but they are commented out... do you mean those?
[09:35] <mornfall> profke: sure
[09:35] <profke> mornfall: ok, giving it a try right now...
[09:35] <GMullen> how do i kill all xserver(s)
[09:36] <mornfall> profke: if the instructions you followed are in a wiki, maybe fix them so other people after you don't run into same problem :)
[09:36] <h3sp4wn> GMullen: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop (presuming you are using kdm)
[09:36] <profke> mornfall: after sudo apt-get update i can do apt-get dist-upgrade? do I need to drop out of X
[09:36] <profke> ?
[09:37] <mornfall> just run dist-upgrade
[09:37] <mornfall> you will eventually have to log out and log back in to get new kde
[09:37] <profke> ok.. there I go :-)
[09:38] <Lolapela> ty guys
[09:38] <profke> mornfall: everyting seems to go ok!
[09:38] <profke> it is installing!
[09:39] <profke> mornfall thanks a million!
[09:40] <GMullen> ok
[09:41] <profke> sorry, wrong x :-)
[09:43] <_thumper_> After a brief try of Dapper on a different partition (same home mount though) coming back to Breezy and my Kicker is a bit stuffed
[09:43] <_thumper_> I can't move things around anymore
[09:46] <GMullen> i'm trying to reinstall kubuntu (on a partion next to xp) and it's asking if i want to setup swap space
[09:47] <GMullen> do I need to set swap space/how do I
[09:50] <profke> mornfull: well, back, and on 3.52! TNX!
[09:53] <profke> u=a
[09:58] <IronMan> whoa, what's better with the dvd? :P
[09:58] <IronMan> oh, never min
[09:58] <IronMan> d
[10:10] <jeff_> hey guys
[10:10] <jeff_> anybody know what SKIM is?
[10:10] <uniq>  skim is KDE frontend for the SCIM input method platform.
[10:10] <jeff_> lol oh thanks
[10:10] <jeff_> what does it do?
[10:11] <uniq> it's for writing chinese.
[10:11] <jeff_> seriously
[10:11] <uniq> and similar.
[10:14] <WhyM> Chinese?... Wonder why it's on my system...
[10:14] <jeff_> yeah i knwo
[10:14] <jeff_> strange
[10:14] <jeff_> does anybody know where the default giFT installation is?
[10:15] <jeff_> !gift
[10:15] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jeff_
[10:15] <jeff_> damn
[10:23] <jeff_> nobody? nobody knows where the default giFT installation is?
[10:25] <dereks> jeff_: what do you mean?
[10:25] <dereks> jeff_: the daemon is at giftd
[10:29] <colea> hi
[10:30] <colea> im using kubuntu 5.10, i was checking out the gpl screensavers, that made my system crash...
[10:31] <colea> could it be a driver problem?
[10:32] <colea> openGL screensavers i meant
[10:35] <WhyM> What graphic card do you have ?
[10:40] <_uros> have difficulty installing opera, after install and when run from console i get ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. Segmentation fault. WIKI says i should correct the Java path under Tools -> Preferences -> Advanced Tab -> Content -> Java options, but i can not do this as opera does not even start
[10:40] <jeff_> dereks: im trying to set up apollon, its asking where it can find my gift installation
[10:41] <dereks> jeff_: which giftd
[10:41] <dereks> that will tell you
[10:41] <jeff_> dereks: ?
[10:41] <dereks> utype that at the console
[10:41] <jeff_> ok
[10:42] <jeff_> ok cool
[10:42] <jeff_> ill try that
[10:42] <jeff_> thanks dereks
[10:42] <dereks> np
[10:44] <gabriel> hola mara
[10:44] <gabriel> que honda
[10:45] <ubijtsa> !es
[10:45] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:45] <gabriel> les cuento que soy usurio nuevo en esto del linus
[10:45] <gabriel> y tengo mis dudas
[10:45] <gabriel> alguien me puede ayudar
[10:45] <kow> anyone here get kopete crashing when you try to configure it? breezy..kde 3.5.2
[10:46] <colea> WhyM , my card   is an Intel Corp. 82865G Integrated Graphics Device
[10:46] <colea> gabriel, entra al canal #kubuntu-es
[10:46] <colea> este canal es para angloparlantes mayormente
[11:09] <dibz> can I ask nood questions in here or is there a help channel for kubuntu?
[11:10] <dibz> lol noob
[11:10] <ljl> there is one, and it's this one
[11:10] <ljl> you can ask in #ubuntu too
[11:10] <dibz> sweet.
[11:11] <dibz> If I connect to my kubntu box via my lan and start something running ie torrent, do i need to keep putty window open?
[11:12] <dibz> via ssh
[11:12] <ljl> yes, unless you run "screen" first
[11:12] <dibz> just 2screen at prompt?
[11:12] <ljl> "screen" is a program that will create a "persistent" session, so that programs started from it will keep running even after you disconnect
[11:12] <yanis> hi ppl
[11:12] <ljl> yes
[11:12] <yanis> screen rocks :)
[11:13] <ljl> later, when you reconnect, "screen -r" will bring your session back to the terminal
[11:13] <yanis> who Riddell
[11:13] <dibz> cool, thanks
[11:13] <ljl> not sure "screen" is installed by default in ubuntu, but if it isn't, "sudo aptitude install screen" will get it to you
[11:14] <Riddell> yanis: hmm?
[11:14] <dibz> 1 more quickie....i use kde - where is the config file where i can manually set resolution and bit depth?
[11:14] <ljl> it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but you should probably try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:15] <dibz> thanks so much.  I'm very grateful
[11:15] <ryanakca> are 9+ caracter user passwords supported in kubuntu?
[11:16] <yanis> Riddell: can we speak private?
[11:17] <ljl> ryanakca: they certainly work, but it's possible that only the first 9 characters are matched
[11:18] <ryanakca> ljl: hmm... might as well stick with my 9 character passwords
[11:19] <ljl> ryanakca: my password is 10 characters, and both sudo and kdesu refuse it when only the first 9 are typed - just tried
[11:19] <ryanakca> ljl: kk
[11:19] <ryanakca> ljl: goodies
[11:21] <dibz> there is options in my xorg.conf about the resolution (ie 1024x768) that are not available from within kde.   anyone know why?
[11:22] <ljl> dibz: it's normal in my experience
[11:23] <Daskreec1> can I freeze a package in adept?
[11:23] <dibz> i'm trying to get 1024x768 8 bit
[11:23] <ljl> dibz: try using "ctrl alt +" and/or "ctrl alt -", that should cycle between the resolutions you have available
[11:23] <ljl> dibz: well, the quick way is to leave that as the *only* available resolution in xorg.conf
[11:24] <ljl> (1024x768 8bit? argh! :o)
[11:24] <dibz> very old graphics card and in kde @800x600 its impossible to use some of the control panel
[11:24] <dibz> 2mb on nboard!!
[11:25] <Riddell> yanis: if it's quick
[11:25] <dibz> apply/ok/cancel buttons are off bottom of screen
[11:25] <ljl> hm yes, 1024x768 is the very minimum to be usable
[11:25] <ljl> my advice is to get a new card, they cost very little, like 30 or so
[11:25] <dibz> ctrlalt+ not doing much
[11:26] <ljl> but anyway, if you remove everything except 1024x768 at 8 bits from your xorg.conf, it should be used
[11:26] <ljl> remember to restart X though
[11:26] <yanis> sure Riddell
[11:26] <ljl> (and to backup your old xorg.conf, just in case ;)
[11:26] <dibz> ok thanks.  will try that now.
[11:27] <ljl> also, tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"? will do the same thing, but it's somewhat more user friendly... it'll ask a lot of questions, you can just press Enter to most of them (it'll use the current values), just change the part about resolutions
[11:27] <ljl> leave only 1024x768 selected, and choose 8 bit as default
[11:27] <lilminimey06> hi everyone, ive just installed doom 3 on my kubuntu box, but when i trie to lunch it, it says that i dont have opengl, how do i get it all?
[11:27] <dibz> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[11:29] <WhyM> lilminimey06> You probably need to install the proprietary driver for your graphic card...
[11:29] <lilminimey06> WhyM: o
[11:29] <ljl> lilminimey06: nvidia or ati? (or something else)
[11:29] <Daskreec1> can I freeze a package in adept?
[11:30] <lilminimey06> ljl: nVidia
[11:30] <ljl> !nvidia
[11:30] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:30] <ljl> following the tutorial worked very easily for me - though i *have* heard people having problems
[11:30] <Riddell> yanis: I need to go now
[11:31] <slicslak> anyone know if ffmpeg can be used to view files, a la mpeg?
[11:31] <slicslak> sorry, mpeg=mplayer
[11:31] <yanis> ok Riddell.I'll talk to you another time.
[11:31] <Daskreec1> Riddell: Bye
[12:02] <NoUse> anyone know how to keep krfb from using ~80% of my CPU while connected?