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LaserJockyou might want /names for here ;-)12:52
jmgwhat is required to be able to modify specs on launchpad?12:54
jmgSorry, you don't have permission to access this page.12:54
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wasabiPermission. ;)01:03
sivanganyone here that can upload a package?01:16
sivang(it's laready been approved by slomo__ and jpatrick)01:17
sivangI just want to upload an update01:17
sivanglifeless: ping ^^ ? :)01:18
sivangnight all01:24
crimsunsivang: sure, url?01:24
lifelesssivang: sorry, right now am flat out01:28
lifelesssivang: and I'd have to review the whole thing, third party oks aren't sufficient to upload to a buildd01:28
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crimsunwell. Apparently the mysterious queue ate my upload. /me sighs and uploads again02:57
Hobbseedeath to all mysterious queues!02:57
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crimsunok, something is very, very broken, because it's simply dropping all my uploads.03:13
LaserJockbummer crimsun, soyuz hates you03:14
crimsunI guess so.03:14
crimsunLaserJock: mind uploading the fix for #40408, then?03:15
LaserJockcrimsun: got a debdiff?03:17
crimsunLaserJock: http://www.sh.nu/~crimsun/flashplugin-nonfree/03:17
FunnyLookinHatAnyone here working on the network-manager-gnome package?03:19
LaserJockcrimsun: do I need to do debuild -S -sa on that to get it signed?03:20
crimsunLaserJock: debsign it03:21
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bddebianHeya gang03:24
LaserJockcrimsun: sure those are right? dput says the md5sums are right03:26
LaserJockargg, whatever. It didn't work03:27
crimsunwhat the...03:27
LaserJockcrimsun: yeah, a manual md5sum on the tarball is different then what is in your .dsc03:29
crimsundput should have failed on my system, then.03:30
crimsunI just now used wget on a Debian system, and I get the same md5sum03:30
LaserJockoh crap, just a sec03:32
LaserJockcrimsun: ok, I uploaded it03:34
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LaserJockcrimsun: so how did you know that yours weren't going through?03:34
crimsunLaserJock: I rebuilt -ubuntu2 as -ubuntu1 and attempted to upload it. I should have gotten a REJECT, but I got nothing.03:36
LaserJockI just got an accepted email from Ubuntu Installer03:36
LaserJockhmm, that is weird that your having problems03:37
crimsunbddebian: well, don't feel so bad. You may not be marked a Ubuntu member, but at least you can upload. :-p03:37
bddebiancrimsun: :-(  You can't upload?03:37
bddebianMan we are behind on vnc403:37
crimsunLaserJock: this is not the first time. This is actually the fifth or sixth time the upload infrastructure has been broken for me.03:37
LaserJockbddebian: vnc4 needs major work :(03:38
LaserJockbddebian: I tried, but it was just too messy for me03:38
bddebianLaserJock: I know that's why I wondered if 4.1.1 from Debian would do any good03:38
LaserJockbddebian: perhaps, last I knew though the big problem is is it ships its own X source03:39
crimsunI _bet_ it's my key. Again. LP seems to have major issues with my GPG key.03:39
lifelesshave you filed a bug?03:40
crimsunI filed one a while ago, it was marked fixed03:41
crimsunI can file another one...03:41
LaserJockthe more the merrier03:42
LaserJockright bddebian?03:42
bddebianLaserJock: Absolutely :-)03:47
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ajmitch-/+ buffers/cache:      99760   1652179205:10
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LaserJockajmitch: hmm05:14
bddebianWTF should I do about all these merges?  They'll require UVF exceptions right?05:15
LaserJocknot if they are just new debian revisions, I don't think05:15
bddebianThese aren't new revisions05:15
ajmitchmost of them were filed months ago05:16
ajmitchthere needs to be a good reason to ask UVF exceptions05:16
ajmitchmore than just 'the bug is open'05:16
LaserJockyeah, I wouldn't worry about them unless they are bug fixes05:16
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bddebiantsk, tsk, crimsun was supposed to merge insight :-)05:19
bddebianOh, scratch that, you reported it :-)05:19
bddebianOh, it's ajmitch's fault pyx isn't gonna make it.. :-)05:29
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bddebianHehe, nice nick zerokarmaleft05:29
zerokarmaleftbddebian: thanks05:30
ajmitchdescribes me fairly well soon05:30
zerokarmaleftit doesn't have anything to do with launchpad05:33
zerokarmaleftbut it's not like my karma cup runneth over in that respect either05:34
bddebianajmitch: Well get to work d00d :-)05:39
bddebianzerokarmaleft: Well it's funny in both contexts here :-)05:39
ajmitchbddebian: I would, but you're fixing all the bugs05:41
bddebianajmitch: Sha, right.  I'm not even making a dent :-(05:42
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bddebianThere's still over 5,000 unconfirmed bugs alone :'-(05:45
crimsunhmph. gst now refuses to play certain media types.06:01
LaserJocklike what?06:02
crimsununencumbered m4as that I purchased from iTMS and ran through jHymn. They played fine just three hours ago.06:03
ajmitchhow annoying06:05
LaserJockhmm, I'm trying to figure out how to use ssh keys today :)06:07
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bddebianMan, this sucks06:08
LaserJockbut bzr has a bug right now where you can't use password auth for sftp06:08
bddebianI think EVERYTHING has a bug at this point :'(06:09
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lifelessbddebian: many bugs is normal. its less than one per package06:09
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crimsunthe good news is that it's not even one per package. the bad news is that some packages have a LOT of bugs. :)06:10
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LaserJockbddebian: yeah in motuscience there are only something like 48 bugs for ~450 packages06:11
bddebianLaserJock: Yeah, why only 48? ;-P06:11
LaserJockcause somebody clean house06:11
crimsunhmm...could it be...bdd...06:11
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bddebianlifeless: It's not fuss, I just wish I could do some more significant stuff I guess.  I don't really know what I'm looking for or what to focus on half the time.. :-(06:12
bddebianLaserJock: pfft06:12
crimsundude, triaging and your efforts are hugely significant06:12
lifelessbddebian: well, there are two basic approaches, per-package, or time based triage06:13
bddebianlifeless: Time-based?06:13
lifelessI tend to do per - package. Like I'll pick a package and look at *every* bug in the package.06:14
bddebianlifeless: And I usually try to hit any/all bugs for a package I "fix" if I can06:14
lifelessbddebian: time based is when you do a custom search for bugs in all of ubuntu, for bugs that are 'unconfirmed' in oldest-first order06:14
lifelesstime based is harder because there is less context between the bugs06:14
bddebianlifeless: Ah, well that's what I'm doing now :-)06:14
bddebian>5600 Unconfirmed bugs :-(06:15
LaserJockbddebian: just write some mass-confirm script ;-)06:16
LaserJockakkk, my package doesn't build in dapper!06:19
LaserJockNo such file or directorypy to ./ .../bin/sh: /usr/share/dpatch/dpatch-run06:21
bddebianThere wasn't an /usr/X11R6/ symlink in Breezy was there?06:22
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ajmitchit would have been a directory then06:26
LaserJockdang it, all of a sudden pbuilder doesn't like my dpatch rules or something06:27
bddebianajmitch: X11R6 existed in Breezy?  Are you sure?06:28
ajmitchI may be wrong - it exists in my chroot but with very few files in it06:29
ajmitchwhich would indicate that it was meant to be removed then06:29
bddebianWell I know there is /usr/X11R6/lib which is symlinked but I thought everything else was gone06:29
bddebianDoes anyone have an /etc/alternatives/mozilla?  I don't06:30
crimsunlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2005-10-25 14:03 /etc/alternatives/mozilla -> /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox06:30
bddebianWeird, I wonder why I don't have one06:31
bddebianOh, I do, I can't type06:32
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pschulz01_I'm looking the a SVG Perl package... similar to 'libgd-gd2-perl'. I can do 'dh-make-perl --cpan GD::SVG' which almost works.. but no package is produced. (I'm using dapper).06:36
crimsunoh ho, I see the gst issue.06:48
crimsungst, due to alsa dmix, will not play 48kHz files without a rate parameter, which requires a hand-modified ~/.asoundrc . I 'converted' the file to ogg vorbis, and I received the same gst error.06:49
crimsunduh, I should have noticed that, being involved with audio and all...06:50
crimsun...except this is an alsa-lib issue, not gst. Blarg.06:50
bddebianYou can't know everything06:51
bddebianYou could be like me and not know anything ;-P06:51
crimsunwell, no, I _should_ know that. I first diagnosed this precise problem half a year ago.06:53
crimsunI just didn't pay any attention to the original files' sampling rates.06:54
bddebianShit, 1am, I gotta get to bed.  Gnight folks.07:03
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zakamehi all07:16
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crimsunany MOTUs alive?08:14
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jmgcrimsun: are you an alsa expert?08:17
crimsunjmg: expert? I don't know if anyone besides Takashi or Jaroslav can be an expert08:18
jmgcrimsun: okay... let me rephrase..08:18
jmgexpert on alsa and ubuntu perhaps?08:18
crimsunperhaps, what's up?08:19
jmgwell, i have an ice171208:19
jmgHoontech DSP24 Value08:19
jmgthe volume slider doesnt affect the volume08:19
crimsunmm, you need the envy*control08:20
jmgice1712 driver is not very good i know that08:20
jmgcrimsun: tried it... didnt help08:20
crimsuneven the one from alsa-utils_1.0.11?08:21
jmgI can go and give it a go08:21
jmgjust a sec08:21
jmgrhythmbox wont play at all08:28
crimsunok, is any sound audible?08:28
jmgyeah, the ubuntu chime at start08:28
crimsunand nothing afterward?08:29
jmgbeep can play08:29
jmgbut not rhythmbox08:29
crimsunis beep configured to use oss, esd, or alsa?08:29
jmgalso no control in envy24control has any affect08:29
jmgcurrently configured for oss, but alsa works08:29
jmgalsa only works with default pcm device08:30
crimsunok. do you have multiple cards?08:31
crimsuns/cards/sound devices/08:31
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jmgi have an onboard ac97 thats disabled in bios08:31
jmgso it doesnt get discover1ed08:32
jmgalsa is listing 3 devices08:32
jmgice1712 multi and 2 ice1712 consumer devices08:32
jmgwell not devices, i forget what the alsa term is... slots? or maybe the other way round08:33
crimsunerr, well, what does /proc/asound/cards list?08:33
jmg0 [DSP24          ] : ICE1712 - Hoontech SoundTrack Audio DSP2408:33
jmg                     Hoontech SoundTrack Audio DSP24 at 0xec00, irq 18508:33
jmgthat's all08:34
ajmitchyay, done with work for the day08:34
ajmitchnow for my other job..08:34
pschulz01_Greetings.. is there a 'single signon' system for a ubuntu network? Does edubuntu support this?08:35
crimsunjmg: ok, does ``amixer'' give you an error?08:35
jmgcrimsun: Nope, but it gives more options than you can shake a stick at08:36
crimsunjmg: ok, so you've never used System> Preferences> Sound> Default sound card  (or asoundconf set [..] )08:36
crimsunjmg: please pastebin the output from amixer08:37
jmgcrimsun: Stand by :)08:38
crimsunjmg: ok, is sound currently audible?08:42
jmgyes but as i said volume sliders et al have no effect08:42
ajmitch[    2.725265]  Brought up 32 CPUs08:43
ajmitch[    2.725434]  Total of 32 processors activated (64001.81 BogoMIPS).08:43
crimsunajmitch: nice08:43
jmgajmitch: :D08:43
jmgwhat is that? superdome?08:43
crimsunjmg: so adjusting 'PCM' (after unmuting it) has no effect?08:43
jmggot one of the test systems?08:43
ajmitch4 of them, bought08:44
ajmitch16GB RAM each08:44
jmgdid you use a t1 before that?08:44
jmgmy puny sgi 1100 with 4gb ram doesnt seem so cool now :(08:44
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jmgcrimsun: sliders in volume control?08:45
jmgneither master nor pcm does anything08:45
crimsunjmg: using amixer or alsamixer, actually.08:45
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jmgi went through every slider in alsamixer and none of them did anything08:45
ajmitchjmg: this thing is great for throughput, crap for any floating point code or stuff that's not heavily threaded08:45
jmgit might be a routing thing?08:45
jmgajmitch: i know, i wanted to get one and run 64 tremor encoders on it08:46
crimsunjmg: could be, can't investigate atm (heading to bed soon)08:46
jmgajmitch: and then go and stream an orchestra08:46
jmgor the UN or similar event that could do with having boatloads of channels08:47
ajmitchserver room is nice & loud now08:47
jmgare the niagras really loud?08:47
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jmgi thought they were supposed to be lo power consumption?08:48
ajmitchthey are, but they still have a reasonable noise level, and with 4 of them going..08:48
jmg"low" is probably still what, 600watt?08:48
ajmitchthe cases mainly have fans at the front which create most of the noise08:49
ajmitchCPU is meant to be around ~75W08:49
jmgthats just cpu though08:49
ajmitcheach box we have has 2 2.5" drives08:49
jmgcute :)08:50
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ajmitchmy home pc probably has more power consumption08:50
ajmitch(dual-core, 5 drives)08:50
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ajmitchnice, I see davem has a "Suuuuuuper Seeeeekret Tree." implementing some of van jacobson's stuff that he talked about at LCA08:54
Gloubiboulgamorning Universe08:54
ajmitchit was one of the only talks to get a standing ovation I think08:54
jmgA modest proposal to help speed up & scale up the linux networking stack?08:55
ajmitchmodest indeed08:55
ajmitchit'd provide vast improvements on multi-core hardware08:56
jmgpity my boss didnt let me go to lca08:56
ajmitchquite a shame, it was very good this year08:56
jmgespecially when im in auckland08:56
ajmitchit helped that I live 10 minutes walk away08:56
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jmgdid revu just go down?09:28
ajmitchwhy do you say that?09:29
ajmitchit appears to be working09:29
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sivangcrimsun: still up for my package review and refresh upload?10:02
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ajmitchsivang: probably the wrong time of day to ask10:03
sivangajmitch: ah, okay, what about you? :)10:03
sivang(It's already been uploaded and approved by jpatrick / slomo)10:03
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sivangajmitch: k, np, thanks anyway.10:04
ajmitchseeing how long this box takes a build a kernel :)10:04
sivanghmm, that's rather boring, isn't it? :)10:07
ajmitchnice, about 8 minutes for a standard build10:07
slomosivang: is it that urgent? ;) just wait until it's out of NEW... and then get the new version uploaded10:08
ajmitchhi slomo10:09
sivangslomo: what difference will it be then then now? oh, and hi btw :-)10:09
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slomosivang: the uploader would have something to diff against... now he would need to review to complete package again (in theory)10:10
sivangslomo: ah, okay then.10:11
ajmitchamazing how many posts on the local LUG list are about ubuntu at the moment :)10:12
ajmitchincluding a few trying xubuntu on older hardware10:12
ajmitchcrap, no j2re or j2se for this platform10:14
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dholbachheya motu world!10:20
sivangmornign dholbach10:20
dholbachhey sivang10:20
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ajmitchhey dholbach10:21
ajmitchhow are you?10:21
dholbachhey ajmitch, fine - thanks10:22
ajmitchgreat :)10:22
dholbachjust got a nice croissant with nougat and chocolate from the bakery and a coffee10:22
dholbachhow are you?10:22
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ajmitchI'm good thanks10:22
cbx334 hours?10:23
ajmitchslow cd10:23
cbx33how so?10:23
ajmitchand very slow console for installer10:24
ajmitch9600 baud, I think10:24
ajmitchit's odd considering what the rest of the machine is like :)10:24
cbx33i use VM ware now for most of my install testing10:24
ajmitchno way you could simulate this in vmware10:24
ajmitchsun T200010:25
cbx33well not all of us are as hardcore as you ajmitch :p10:25
ajmitchno need to be sarcastic10:25
cbx33i work in a school10:25
cbx33sorry ajmitch, wasn't trying to be sarvastic :p10:26
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freeflyinghow shall I change the source of pbuilder ?10:28
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kelmo_laphi siretart10:31
siretarthey kelmo_lap10:31
kelmo_lapsiretart, can i ask for some assistance please? to clean up and tag/discuss some wpasup bugs10:32
kelmo_lapi have little good experience with the BTS . . .10:32
ajmitchhi siretart, how are you?10:32
siretarthey ajmitch - I'm fine, and you?10:33
siretartkelmo_lap: sure. what is it?10:33
kelmo_lapok, lets see if the bug bot will work for me10:33
kelmo_lapdebian bug #30408710:34
UbugtuDebian bug 304087 in wpasupplicant "Subject: wpasupplicant not working with ipw2100 driver" [Important,Closed]  http://bugs.debian.org/30408710:34
kelmo_lapi think fixed with: http://hostap.epitest.fi/bugz/show_bug.cgi?id=14010:34
kelmo_lapwhich i have already ported to our 0.5 branch10:34
kelmo_lapfixes wext with static wep keys10:34
kelmo_lapi can port to 0.4.8 or we can wait for 0.4.910:35
kelmo_lapeither way, we can tag that ticket as oending, i think10:35
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siretartkelmo_lap: there is a shellscript called 'bts' in the devscripts package you can use10:36
siretartkelmo_lap: try 'bts tag 304087 pending'10:36
kelmo_lapah cool, i shall read up on it, thanks10:36
siretartit expects a local mta functional though10:36
kelmo_laphmm, i don't have that . . .10:36
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kelmo_lapcontrol<at> i must use10:36
kelmo_lapanyway, lets continue10:37
kelmo_lapdebian bug #29544510:37
UbugtuDebian bug 295445 in wpasupplicant "Subject: Please add hotplug support and driver autodetection" [Wishlist,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/29544510:37
kelmo_lapi think we disagreed on this one10:37
siretartkelmo_lap: just a mom10:37
kelmo_lapi don't like it one bit10:37
ajmitchsiretart: good thanks :)10:37
siretarthostap #140 doesn't talk about static wep keying with ipw2100 - Are you sure these things are related?10:38
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siretartajmitch: cool :)10:38
kelmo_lapsiretart, related to wext10:38
ajmitchsiretart: it currently just Doesn't Work :)10:39
kelmo_lapdon't matter what damn driver, just the wpasupplicant backend10:39
ajmitchprobably because I still have an old config file lying around10:39
kelmo_lapfeel free to test it yourself with our 0.5 branch on ya girlfriends ipw2100 laptop10:39
joelbryanhow do you use someone else patch and make derivatives of it?10:40
siretartkelmo_lap: ah, i see10:40
siretartkelmo_lap: If this really fixes the issue, I'd love to have this fix in dapper asap, since we are currently in deep freeze mode10:41
kelmo_lapsiretart, well, i can easily port to 0.4 branch tonight if need be10:41
kelmo_laptrivial patch10:41
kelmo_lapor you can, whatever10:41
siretarta sec, boss in room10:42
kelmo_lapajmitch, i've never attempted to use nm yet10:42
kelmo_lapajmitch, can you chosse interfaces to control and not to control via nm?10:42
ajmitchI don't know10:45
siretartkelmo_lap: would be great, I'd happily test that patch on the affected laptop. she would be very thankful as well ;)10:48
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kelmo_lapsiretart, just committed10:51
kelmo_lapto stable branch10:51
kelmo_lapplease test10:52
kelmo_lapif possible ; )10:52
siretartthanks! will test it asap (most likely tomorrow)10:52
kelmo_lapsiretart, that patch was so important it also went straight into 0.3 0.4 and 0.5 branches of upstream cvs10:52
siretartuuh. I see.10:53
kelmo_lapnot many people must use wpa_supplicant for wep ; )10:53
siretartok. spotted the patch, it is a 4-liner, will test it asap10:54
kelmo_lapdebian bug #35438810:55
UbugtuDebian bug 354388 in wpasupplicant "Subject: wpasupplicant: please recompile with madwifi-dev" [Wishlist,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/35438810:55
kelmo_lapthat is not valid10:55
kelmo_lapmy new madwifi packaging does not and will not include a -dev package anymore10:55
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siretartwe have 2 options: either close it with explanation, or, if you think that ppl will reopen it anyway, mark it 'wontfix'10:55
kelmo_lapi will close it then10:55
siretartI agree10:56
siretartif they reopen (or refile dupes), we can mark them wontfix anyway10:56
kelmo_lapdebian bug #35096310:56
UbugtuDebian bug 350963 in wpasupplicant "Subject: wpasupplicant: wait-for-interface option -w does not work anymore" [Normal,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/35096310:56
kelmo_laphis argument was refuted on the hostap mailing list10:56
kelmo_lapanyway, its not really pertinent to the package now10:57
siretartkelmo_lap: could you perhaps post a link to the bugreport to the relevant links on the mailing list?10:58
kelmo_lapif i can find them . . .10:58
kelmo_lapone last thing, then i'll leave you alone11:00
kelmo_lapin 0.5 branch, i began putting the code in the ifupdown script into functions11:00
kelmo_lapto make it more readable11:00
kelmo_lapif you agree with that style, then i'd like to throw it into the stable packaging at some stage too11:01
siretartlike in, -4?11:01
kelmo_lapup to you, thats why i ask11:02
siretartconsidering that we are currently in deep freeze for dapper, I'd prefer focused patches to trunk/11:02
siretartis it only refactoring or are there functional changes as well?11:03
kelmo_laprefactoring will allow functional changes to be integrated with greater ease11:03
siretarthm. I'd like to compare the to scripts first11:03
kelmo_lapi don't want to maintain two vastly different scripts for too long11:03
siretartme neither11:04
kelmo_lapwell, they are not much different11:04
kelmo_lapbut you know what i mean . . .11:04
siretartI understand. sure11:04
siretarthm. the refactoring makes very sense11:07
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kelmo_lapsiretart, looks much better now huh?11:09
kelmo_lapeasier on the eye11:09
kelmo_lapespecially for people looking at it for the first time11:10
siretartI'm happy to test it. lets put it to trunk, and I'll cherry pick fixes for the next ubuntu upload11:11
kelmo_lapand thanks for your time too, siretart11:13
siretartno problem. :) thanks for your work on wpasupplicant :)11:16
siretartI'm just annoyed about Felix :/11:17
kelmo_lapah, i am over it now11:17
kelmo_lapforget about that guy11:17
kelmo_lapif he wants something to be done, he needs to attach code with his whingy emails11:18
kelmo_lapbecause i think we are both way past satisfying that guy ;-)11:18
siretartmaybe. But I still don't want to appear like an bad maintainer11:19
kelmo_lapwhat you are doing is fine11:22
kelmo_lapit is impossible to do what every single bug reporter wants you to11:22
kelmo_lapbut this guy is just a bit too persintent, and testing some nerves11:22
kelmo_lapthat is all11:22
kelmo_lapwe will get that roamin solution when we have a chance (and we are not replying to the same thing every other day)11:23
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siretartmaybe you're right11:24
kelmo_laporiginally i was going to start hacking on one straight away, but then the wifiroamd project was born11:25
kelmo_lapso i guess that effort should be backed11:25
kelmo_lapsiretart, well, hopefully the small patch will fix that static wep key issue, i am pretty confident it will, but of course cannot be sure about driver specific problems11:29
kelmo_lapsiretart, if it does, we can tag that changelog entry11:29
kelmo_lapapologies for all the noise motu's ;-)11:30
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ajmitchhah, as if talking about packaging is going to be off-topic11:31
siretartso, I'm out for lunch11:32
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kelmo_lapsiretart, forgot to discuss one other thing before, but that can wait until after dinner ;-)11:58
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kelmo_lapsiretart, also, we should end this poisonous mailing list thread . . .12:32
siretartyou're right. I should finally focus on my thesis here12:33
kelmo_lapyes, that is far more important12:33
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pygisomeone update and ask for UVFe libsdl please ? 02:09
dholbachI'm going to file a bunch of bug reports with the the prefix [UNMETDEPS]  in a bit and subscribe motu to them02:22
dholbachthat way it should be easy to get a list and them fixed for release02:22
dholbachwhich is good02:22
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StevenKI need those to fix bugs!02:24
StevenKBesides, typing with my nose is annoying.02:24
Hobbseei meant "keyboard" not "fingers"02:25
StevenKNow I can't type at all. :-(02:25
Mithrandirjust use gok02:27
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TheMusoOr maybe something a bit thicke.02:28
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Hobbseenot like i'd be able to do much damage anyway - i should be worried about you all doing damage to me02:28
ajmitchHobbsee: getting picked on again? :)02:28
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TheMusoI'd rather eat them02:29
TheMusoTHe red ones in particular.02:29
StevenKCapsicum spray isn't really capsicum.02:30
Mithrandirgood thing I had a helmet on, then02:30
StevenKCapsicum spray is vile, and *hurts*.02:30
StevenKDear me. Must have been something we said.02:30
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HobbseeStevenK: haha02:31
Hobbseeit timed out, for some reason - it's done it before02:31
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Mithrandirthere's one which instantly panics your box, at least02:32
Hobbseeyes, but i'm using the workaround for that02:33
Mithrandir"not having local users"?02:33
Mithrandirat least of the kind you don't trust.02:33
Hobbseeno, only one user on this machine, and thats me02:33
StevenKMithrandir: The ip multicast bug?02:34
MithrandirStevenK: yep02:34
StevenKThat's a fun DoS.02:34
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StevenKHobbsee: "ip r g iif eth0"02:37
StevenKWith a 'dev eth0' in there.02:37
Hobbseeah right...02:37
Mithrandiryou don't need dev eth0, do you?02:37
StevenKI'm unsure, and I don't really want to try it. :-)02:38
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Mithrandirit worked without eth0 when I tried it on my test box.02:38
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:dholbach] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | We are in feature freeze now. Focus on http://tinyurl.com/nl87h and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DhIconCacheChanges and http://tinyurl.com/rjcqu
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dholbachok, so if y'all search for UNMETDEPS in Launchpad's bugs, we should have a little list of bugs that should mostly be a rebuild03:10
dholbach(and I fixed the bug with the wrong subjects in the meantime) :)03:10
ajmitchdholbach: yeah, thanks, I'll get rebuilding03:11
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ajmitchI've assigned a bunch of zope* bugs to myself :)03:11
dholbachrock on - Karma love for you!03:11
ajmitchwaiting for syncs, and need to upload some python evils03:11
ograsivang, congrats03:12
zakamehi MOTUs ! :D03:12
ograAccepted upbackup 0.0.1 (source)03:12
dholbachGloubiboulga: some of the uninstallable packages are xubuntu ones03:15
dholbachGloubiboulga: you guys don't seam to default subscribe your team to those packages, do you?03:16
dholbachxfce4-wavelan-plugin for example03:16
Gloubiboulgadholbach, some plugins are not suscribed to the Xubuntu team, I'll add them03:16
dholbachrock on03:16
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dholbachhope those uninstallables are easy to fix03:17
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Gloubiboulgathe uninstallable plugins are the ones which have not been ported to the new panel yet03:17
dholbachah ok03:17
dholbachi see03:17
Gloubiboulganot really easy to fix, and it's upstream job...03:17
Gloubiboulgadholbach, do I have to do anything technically before starting uploads03:18
Gloubiboulgalike getting my gpg key signed03:18
dholbachGloubiboulga: um03:19
dholbachGloubiboulga: you don't have a key on launchpad yet?03:19
Gloubiboulgadholbach, it's on03:20
dholbachsounds good03:20
dholbachtry it :)03:20
dholbachajmitch: if we remove zope2.7, can we subscribe 'ubuntu-archive' to the bug and look into getting it done?03:21
Gloubiboulgaok, I have a few in progress bugs, it's time to upload :)03:21
dholbachajmitch: or when is the removal planned?03:21
dholbachGO Gloubiboulga, GO GO GO!03:21
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StevenKI wonder if remove-packages.py actually works now.03:23
ajmitchdholbach: #3963103:23
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dholbachbug 3963103:24
UbugtuMalone bug 39631 in Ubuntu "sync and removal requests: zope*" [Normal,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3963103:24
dholbachajmitch: thanks - then close the bug - it has no point03:24
sivangogra: ?03:26
sivangogra: ah ;-)03:26
sivangogra: Well, already pending a fix. I need someone to upload the new fixed packaged, which I already uploaded to revu for ease of check and retrival :)03:26
sivangogra: and thanks :)03:27
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sivangis everything okay with revu?03:31
sivangit does not respond anymore.03:31
Gloubiboulgagroovy, my first upload has been accepted :)03:38
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bddebianHeya gang03:48
Gloubiboulgahey bddebian03:49
bddebianHello Gloubiboulga03:49
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zakamehi bddebian04:00
bddebianHeya zakame04:00
bddebianOhh, vnc4 4.1.1 from Unstable builds and installs.. Hmm04:23
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carthik :)zakame, thanks for taking on the streamtuner bugs04:36
zakamecarthik: hey, no problem04:36
zakameI'm preparing a patch as soon as I get my upload privs back, courtesy of malone 41102 :)04:37
UbugtuMalone bug 41102 in qprocd "Could not upload any Universe packages; email parsing bug?" [Major,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4110204:37
bddebianzul: ping04:37
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zulbddebian: pong05:34
bddebianzul: Caught up yet? ;-P05:38
zulbddebian: no i was watching the hockey game last night05:39
zulim a canadian and its the play-offs ;)05:40
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zulits quiet today05:52
bddebianYeah, you better be working ;-P05:53
bddebianHeya cbx3305:53
cbx33hey bddebian05:53
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zuli will when i get home :P05:54
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bddebianHeya Seveas, highvoltage06:01
highvoltagehi bddebian!06:01
Seveashi Boo 06:02
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bddebianHmm, why would cacti bring in apache and apache2 packages?06:58
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FunnyLookinHatOn latest updates:07:12
FunnyLookinHatE: /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg_7.0.0-0ubuntu31_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 207:12
ograFunnyLookinHat, there is really no need to spam all ubuntu channels with it07:13
FunnyLookinHatogra,  only sent to devel and motu, wasn't sure where it should go.07:14
ograto launchpad07:14
dholbachyeah, file a bug.07:15
ogra32 is already building with the fix since 1h so you'll surely find a bug about it07:17
bddebianwb sivang07:19
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sivanghey bddebian , anything broken already ? :)07:20
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bddebiansivang: xorg apparently but I didn't do that one ;-P07:21
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sivangbddebian: I would be scared if you have, MOTU is not dealing with xorg as it's in main right?07:22
sivangbddebian: care to upload a fixed version of upbackup for me in a couple of seconds?07:23
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tuxmaniacbug 4130507:26
UbugtuMalone bug 41305 in scilab "Scilab version is old, new stable version is 4." [Normal,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4130507:26
bddebiantuxmaniac: D00d, keep dreaming :-)07:26
tuxmaniacbddebian: Why this?07:27
bddebiantuxmaniac: Need UVF exceptions for all your "new" packages :-)07:28
tuxmaniacbddebian: Yeah!!! I got it :( I know what you mean also!07:28
bddebiantuxmaniac: Actually they are fairly self contained so you could file UVF bugs for them07:29
farruinnDoes setting up a new pbuilder environment usually take a while? It's been on "Checking component main..." for quite a while07:45
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farruinnIgnore my question - it just wasn't being verbose about downloading stuff07:48
sivangbddebian: I've uploaded a fixed version to revu, will you be able to review and upload?07:53
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tuxmaniacbddebian: Am off now! And will not be in IRC Tomorrow mostly as I am travelling :) See ya07:55
LaserJocktuxmaniac: did you package scilab 4?07:57
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tuxmaniacLaserJock: You want me to ? I can do it07:57
tuxmaniacBut I thought I will get MAgic up!07:57
LaserJocktuxmaniac: dude, I think scilab4 is going to be a beast07:58
LaserJocktuxmaniac: did you get any reviews from xcircuit on REVU?07:58
tuxmaniacLaserJock: Not yet! HAve some errors on Lintian but the previous package also has the same!07:58
LaserJocktuxmaniac: yeah, there is some stuff that needs to be taken care of, if I have time I'll try to do a more thorough review and make a comment08:00
tuxmaniacthank u! LaserJock  I am still new to packaging! So the more the revoew points more helpful it would be08:00
LaserJockyes,  learn by doing08:02
tuxmaniacLaserJock: Oh my god.. Scilab is really gonna be one!!!08:02
LaserJockMOTU is a great place to learn to package08:02
tuxmaniachelluva lot of features added also !!08:02
tuxmaniacBut LaserJock Does everybody know that Scilab is _Not_ free software! It was pointed out by one of my friends08:03
LaserJocktuxmaniac: yeah, that is why I wasn't too keen on packaging 408:03
tuxmaniacLaserJock: :))08:04
tuxmaniacLaserJock: Octave?08:04
LaserJocktuxmaniac: what about it?08:04
tuxmaniacLaserJock: Nothing! I was thinking something and typed something08:06
tuxmaniacLaserJock: HAve to leave now! Will be pretty late on IRC tomorrow!08:06
LaserJockcya tuxmaniac08:06
tuxmaniacLaserJock: Bye08:06
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LaserJockya know, sometimes I could just strangle Mr. Gates :/08:12
LaserJockI but a new motherboard in the HP I bought in 2002, now Windows XP refuses to recognize my key08:13
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FunnyLookinHatHow do I clear or remove a specific package from my downloaded cache?08:33
LaserJockFunnyLookinHat: I usually just go to /var/cache/apt/archives and rm it08:34
FunnyLookinHatLaserJock, sweet thanks08:34
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bddebianHeya jaldhar09:09
LaserJockhowdy bddebian09:14
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bddebianHeya LaserJock09:15
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freeflying-ibookcan anyone close bug 3499609:19
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LaserJockfreeflying-ibook: you can't?09:23
freeflying-ibookLaserJock: howw to do it?09:24
LaserJockfreeflying-ibook: mark it "Fix Released" or "Rejected"09:24
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freeflying-ibookLaserJock: thx09:26
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bddebianGawd I hate it when work gets in the way of my Ubuntu work.. :-)09:37
Tonio_hi everyone ;)09:39
Gloubiboulgahey Tonio_ :)09:40
bddebianHeya Tonio_09:40
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sys8794if someone packaged captive-ntfs what are the chances it could get included in a dapper flight?09:43
zulisnt that the binary only driver?09:44
ograzero ?09:44
sys8794it is a script written to r/w to ntfs09:45
sys8794there is already a lice cd (trinity rescue kit) that uses it, however since ubuntu is my fav I was wandering if there was a way to get that included ?09:46
tsengchances of a brand new experimental module loading proprietary ms code going into a dapper install cd post beta:09:47
tseng"not gonna happen"09:47
tsengfeature freeze was a long time ago, and kernel freeze has past09:47
sys8794ok well I hadnt had a chance to keep up with all of the deadlines I have been out of country (with no access) for last 8 months. Now I am back where I have access trying to make things happen so thought I would ask09:50
tsengyou missed the boat for dapper unfortunately09:51
sys8794no worries actually it will give me time to package and test, and include in beta on own, and if I can create a stable encior then I will try for next flight so we can get it included09:52
sys8794encior-envior (short for enviorment:)09:53
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Gloubiboulgahi pef !10:05
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pefGloubiboulga: salut, j'ai bien recu ton mail ;)10:06
Gloubiboulgapef, ok, a me tenait  coeur de te prvenir :)10:07
pefc'est sympa :] 10:08
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dolsonyay, I just got a job offer as a Perl developer10:12
dolsonI guess I gotta go learn Perl now10:12
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LaserJockdolson: I feel sorry for you ;(10:18
dolsonWhatever dude, I haven't had a job since December10:18
dolsonI'm just glad I don't have to move to another city now10:19
sivangLaserJock: why? among us there are people who has to do PHP for a living ;-)10:20
LaserJockarggh, you all just need to go into the sciences where we use *real* languages like Fortran10:20
tsengsivang: hah-hah10:21
dolsonI like PHP, but I don't have a choice here10:21
dolsonat least they will allow me to run Ubuntu on my system at this place :)10:22
LaserJockI only know a little python and fortran :/10:24
zul*shudder* fortran10:25
LaserJockI've had a hard time getting my advisor to let me use python instead of Fortran10:25
LaserJockbut we still use it for most everything10:25
GloubiboulgaMOTUs, if we have a bug in ubuntu for foo_1.4-1, and debian's foo_1.4-2 fixes it, can we just sync the package?10:26
LaserJockmy advisor almost had a fit when he bought us all iMacs and then realized that they don't have g7710:27
bddebianGloubiboulga: If it is just a revision update for a bug fix, yes afaik10:27
LaserJockGloubiboulga: yes, if it builds ok, etc.10:27
Gloubiboulgaok, so do I just upload the package (after testing it), or is there something else to do for syncs?10:28
bddebianOh no10:28
bddebianFile a sync request bug on LP10:28
bddebianUnless you need to make Ubuntu changes, then you can upload10:28
Gloubiboulgaah ok10:28
LaserJockGloubiboulga: wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources10:28
Gloubiboulgathanks LaserJock10:28
Gloubiboulgaand bddebian :)10:29
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LaserJockGloubiboulga: you made MOTU? !!!10:29
GloubiboulgaLaserJock, yep :)10:30
LaserJockGloubiboulga: congrats!!10:30
Gloubiboulgathanks LaserJock :)10:31
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LaserJockI think I finally got all the NEW packages in I wanted, and removed all the ones I wanted :-)10:33
bddebianOh cool, so xcircuit got in? :-)10:35
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dholbachbye everybody10:42
highvoltagebye dholbach!10:43
dholbachbye highvoltage10:44
crimsunbye daniel10:44
dolsonbye dholbach10:45
dholbachbye dolson, crimsun *wave*10:45
crimsunyay, I have the same issue as zak10:45
crimsunand we'll both be using the same hackaround for soyuz :(10:45
crimsunerr, :)10:45
crimsunit's a good thing -- we can both upload again :)10:47
bddebianOh, cool10:50
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LaserJockackk, my virtual machine ate my network connection11:03
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uniqi've made a patch for bug 41547, (url in bug comment) can someone review, apply and upload fix?12:01
UbugtuMalone bug 41547 in kbanking "[UNMETDEPS]  xsim has unmet dependencies" [Normal,Fix committed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4154712:01
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