=== Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-119-69.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth_ [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth_ [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth_ [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === redguy [n=mati@adn235.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:37] heylo === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:52] ls [12:52] oops [12:52] heh [12:52] you might want /names for here ;-) [12:54] what is required to be able to modify specs on launchpad? [12:54] Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === |ZuZuu| [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-81-21.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ash211 [n=ash211@user-11fapcr.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:03] Permission. ;) [01:16] anyone here that can upload a package? [01:17] (it's laready been approved by slomo__ and jpatrick) [01:17] I just want to upload an update [01:18] lifeless: ping ^^ ? :) [01:24] night all [01:24] sivang: sure, url? [01:28] sivang: sorry, right now am flat out [01:28] sivang: and I'd have to review the whole thing, third party oks aren't sufficient to upload to a buildd === farruinn [n=farruinn@user-uinj0k6.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theliz48_ [n=prout@mou06-1-82-246-4-197.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee glares at ajmitch === Hobbsee waves to everyone else [02:56] hullo [02:57] well. Apparently the mysterious queue ate my upload. /me sighs and uploads again [02:57] hehe [02:57] death to all mysterious queues! === stratus [n=stratus@201.19.209.152] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=FunnyLoo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee whacks StevenK with a rubber mallet on her way out to work [03:13] ok, something is very, very broken, because it's simply dropping all my uploads. [03:14] bummer crimsun, soyuz hates you [03:14] I guess so. [03:15] LaserJock: mind uploading the fix for #40408, then? [03:17] crimsun: got a debdiff? [03:17] LaserJock: http://www.sh.nu/~crimsun/flashplugin-nonfree/ [03:19] Anyone here working on the network-manager-gnome package? [03:20] crimsun: do I need to do debuild -S -sa on that to get it signed? [03:21] LaserJock: debsign it === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:24] Heya gang [03:26] crimsun: sure those are right? dput says the md5sums are right [03:27] s/right/wrong/ [03:27] argg, whatever. It didn't work [03:27] what the... [03:29] crimsun: yeah, a manual md5sum on the tarball is different then what is in your .dsc [03:30] dput should have failed on my system, then. [03:30] I just now used wget on a Debian system, and I get the same md5sum [03:32] oh crap, just a sec [03:34] crimsun: ok, I uploaded it [03:34] thanks === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:34] crimsun: so how did you know that yours weren't going through? [03:36] LaserJock: I rebuilt -ubuntu2 as -ubuntu1 and attempted to upload it. I should have gotten a REJECT, but I got nothing. [03:36] I just got an accepted email from Ubuntu Installer [03:36] great [03:37] hmm, that is weird that your having problems [03:37] bddebian: well, don't feel so bad. You may not be marked a Ubuntu member, but at least you can upload. :-p [03:37] lol [03:37] crimsun: :-( You can't upload? [03:37] Man we are behind on vnc4 [03:37] LaserJock: this is not the first time. This is actually the fifth or sixth time the upload infrastructure has been broken for me. [03:38] bddebian: vnc4 needs major work :( [03:38] bddebian: I tried, but it was just too messy for me [03:38] LaserJock: I know that's why I wondered if 4.1.1 from Debian would do any good [03:39] bddebian: perhaps, last I knew though the big problem is is it ships its own X source [03:39] I _bet_ it's my key. Again. LP seems to have major issues with my GPG key. [03:40] have you filed a bug? [03:41] I filed one a while ago, it was marked fixed [03:41] I can file another one... [03:42] the more the merrier [03:42] right bddebian? [03:44] c/ [03:47] LaserJock: Absolutely :-) === Arr0gance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-148-191.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PhilKC [i=PhilKC@azureus/PhilKC] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === awb4422 [n=awb4422@12-210-86-35.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:10] hm === ajmitch obviously needs more RAM in this box [05:10] Mem: 16621552 287288 16334264 0 63456 124072 [05:10] -/+ buffers/cache: 99760 16521792 === Mongoose [n=mongoose@ip68-106-216-206.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:14] ajmitch: hmm [05:15] WTF should I do about all these merges? They'll require UVF exceptions right? [05:15] not if they are just new debian revisions, I don't think [05:15] These aren't new revisions [05:16] most of them were filed months ago [05:16] there needs to be a good reason to ask UVF exceptions [05:16] more than just 'the bug is open' [05:16] yeah, I wouldn't worry about them unless they are bug fixes [05:16] Sheesh === Arr0gance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-170-160.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:19] tsk, tsk, crimsun was supposed to merge insight :-) [05:19] Oh, scratch that, you reported it :-) [05:29] Oh, it's ajmitch's fault pyx isn't gonna make it.. :-) === zerokarmaleft [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:29] Hehe, nice nick zerokarmaleft [05:30] bddebian: thanks [05:30] describes me fairly well soon [05:30] hahhahaha [05:33] it doesn't have anything to do with launchpad [05:34] but it's not like my karma cup runneth over in that respect either [05:39] ajmitch: Well get to work d00d :-) [05:39] zerokarmaleft: Well it's funny in both contexts here :-) [05:41] bddebian: I would, but you're fixing all the bugs [05:42] ajmitch: Sha, right. I'm not even making a dent :-( === ajmitch will be back soon, from uni :) [05:45] There's still over 5,000 unconfirmed bugs alone :'-( [06:01] hmph. gst now refuses to play certain media types. [06:02] like what? [06:03] unencumbered m4as that I purchased from iTMS and ran through jHymn. They played fine just three hours ago. [06:04] Ugh [06:05] how annoying [06:07] hmm, I'm trying to figure out how to use ssh keys today :) === LaserJock was apparently living in the stone ages [06:08] heh [06:08] Man, this sucks [06:08] but bzr has a bug right now where you can't use password auth for sftp [06:09] I think EVERYTHING has a bug at this point :'( === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.146.187] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:09] bddebian: many bugs is normal. its less than one per package === lifeless doesn't understand what the fuss is. for ubuntu, 64K bugs would STILL be only 4 bugs per package. [06:10] the good news is that it's not even one per package. the bad news is that some packages have a LOT of bugs. :) === Kyral [n=kyral@128.153.196.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:11] bddebian: yeah in motuscience there are only something like 48 bugs for ~450 packages [06:11] LaserJock: Yeah, why only 48? ;-P [06:11] cause somebody clean house [06:11] hmm...could it be...bdd... === LaserJock gives the MOTU of the month award to bddebian [06:12] lifeless: It's not fuss, I just wish I could do some more significant stuff I guess. I don't really know what I'm looking for or what to focus on half the time.. :-( [06:12] LaserJock: pfft [06:12] dude, triaging and your efforts are hugely significant [06:13] bddebian: well, there are two basic approaches, per-package, or time based triage [06:13] lifeless: Time-based? [06:14] I tend to do per - package. Like I'll pick a package and look at *every* bug in the package. [06:14] lifeless: And I usually try to hit any/all bugs for a package I "fix" if I can [06:14] bddebian: time based is when you do a custom search for bugs in all of ubuntu, for bugs that are 'unconfirmed' in oldest-first order [06:14] time based is harder because there is less context between the bugs [06:14] lifeless: Ah, well that's what I'm doing now :-) [06:15] >5600 Unconfirmed bugs :-( [06:16] bddebian: just write some mass-confirm script ;-) [06:19] Heh [06:19] akkk, my package doesn't build in dapper! [06:21] No such file or directorypy to ./ .../bin/sh: /usr/share/dpatch/dpatch-run [06:21] w00t [06:22] There wasn't an /usr/X11R6/ symlink in Breezy was there? === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.126.145.196] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:26] it would have been a directory then [06:27] dang it, all of a sudden pbuilder doesn't like my dpatch rules or something [06:28] ajmitch: X11R6 existed in Breezy? Are you sure? [06:29] I may be wrong - it exists in my chroot but with very few files in it [06:29] which would indicate that it was meant to be removed then [06:29] Well I know there is /usr/X11R6/lib which is symlinked but I thought everything else was gone [06:30] Does anyone have an /etc/alternatives/mozilla? I don't [06:30] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2005-10-25 14:03 /etc/alternatives/mozilla -> /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox [06:31] Weird, I wonder why I don't have one [06:32] Oh, I do, I can't type === pschulz01_ [n=paul@eth6067.sa.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:36] I'm looking the a SVG Perl package... similar to 'libgd-gd2-perl'. I can do 'dh-make-perl --cpan GD::SVG' which almost works.. but no package is produced. (I'm using dapper). [06:48] oh ho, I see the gst issue. [06:49] gst, due to alsa dmix, will not play 48kHz files without a rate parameter, which requires a hand-modified ~/.asoundrc . I 'converted' the file to ogg vorbis, and I received the same gst error. [06:49] w00t [06:50] duh, I should have noticed that, being involved with audio and all... [06:50] ...except this is an alsa-lib issue, not gst. Blarg. [06:51] You can't know everything [06:51] You could be like me and not know anything ;-P [06:53] well, no, I _should_ know that. I first diagnosed this precise problem half a year ago. [06:54] I just didn't pay any attention to the original files' sampling rates. [07:03] Shit, 1am, I gotta get to bed. Gnight folks. === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:16] hi all === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:14] any MOTUs alive? === carthik [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:17] crimsun: are you an alsa expert? [08:18] jmg: expert? I don't know if anyone besides Takashi or Jaroslav can be an expert [08:18] crimsun: okay... let me rephrase.. [08:18] expert on alsa and ubuntu perhaps? [08:19] perhaps, what's up? [08:19] well, i have an ice1712 [08:19] Hoontech DSP24 Value [08:19] the volume slider doesnt affect the volume [08:20] mm, you need the envy*control [08:20] ice1712 driver is not very good i know that [08:20] crimsun: tried it... didnt help [08:21] envy24control [08:21] even the one from alsa-utils_1.0.11? [08:21] hmm [08:21] I can go and give it a go [08:21] again [08:21] just a sec [08:25] ok [08:28] rhythmbox wont play at all [08:28] ok, is any sound audible? [08:28] yeah, the ubuntu chime at start [08:29] and nothing afterward? [08:29] beep can play [08:29] but not rhythmbox [08:29] is beep configured to use oss, esd, or alsa? [08:29] also no control in envy24control has any affect [08:29] currently configured for oss, but alsa works [08:30] alsa only works with default pcm device [08:31] ok. do you have multiple cards? [08:31] s/cards/sound devices/ === zerokarmaleft [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:31] i have an onboard ac97 thats disabled in bios [08:32] so it doesnt get discover1ed [08:32] alsa is listing 3 devices [08:32] ice1712 multi and 2 ice1712 consumer devices [08:33] well not devices, i forget what the alsa term is... slots? or maybe the other way round [08:33] err, well, what does /proc/asound/cards list? [08:33] 0 [DSP24 ] : ICE1712 - Hoontech SoundTrack Audio DSP24 [08:33] Hoontech SoundTrack Audio DSP24 at 0xec00, irq 185 [08:34] that's all [08:34] yay, done with work for the day [08:34] now for my other job.. [08:35] Greetings.. is there a 'single signon' system for a ubuntu network? Does edubuntu support this? [08:35] jmg: ok, does ``amixer'' give you an error? [08:36] crimsun: Nope, but it gives more options than you can shake a stick at [08:36] jmg: ok, so you've never used System> Preferences> Sound> Default sound card (or asoundconf set [..] ) [08:37] jmg: please pastebin the output from amixer [08:38] crimsun: Stand by :) [08:38] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12913 [08:42] jmg: ok, is sound currently audible? [08:42] yes but as i said volume sliders et al have no effect [08:43] [ 2.725265] Brought up 32 CPUs [08:43] [ 2.725434] Total of 32 processors activated (64001.81 BogoMIPS). [08:43] excellent... [08:43] ajmitch: nice [08:43] ajmitch: :D [08:43] what is that? superdome? [08:43] niagara [08:43] niiiiiiiiice [08:43] jmg: so adjusting 'PCM' (after unmuting it) has no effect? [08:43] got one of the test systems? [08:44] 4 of them, bought [08:44] 16GB RAM each [08:44] did you use a t1 before that? [08:44] wow [08:44] nope [08:44] my puny sgi 1100 with 4gb ram doesnt seem so cool now :( [08:44] heh === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:45] crimsun: sliders in volume control? [08:45] neither master nor pcm does anything [08:45] jmg: using amixer or alsamixer, actually. === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:45] i went through every slider in alsamixer and none of them did anything [08:45] jmg: this thing is great for throughput, crap for any floating point code or stuff that's not heavily threaded [08:45] it might be a routing thing? [08:46] ajmitch: i know, i wanted to get one and run 64 tremor encoders on it [08:46] jmg: could be, can't investigate atm (heading to bed soon) [08:46] ajmitch: and then go and stream an orchestra [08:47] heh [08:47] or the UN or similar event that could do with having boatloads of channels [08:47] server room is nice & loud now [08:47] are the niagras really loud? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:48] i thought they were supposed to be lo power consumption? [08:48] they are, but they still have a reasonable noise level, and with 4 of them going.. [08:48] heh [08:48] "low" is probably still what, 600watt? [08:49] the cases mainly have fans at the front which create most of the noise [08:49] CPU is meant to be around ~75W [08:49] thats just cpu though [08:49] each box we have has 2 2.5" drives [08:49] aww [08:50] cute :) === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:50] my home pc probably has more power consumption [08:50] heh [08:50] (dual-core, 5 drives) === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:53] hardcore. [08:54] nice, I see davem has a "Suuuuuuper Seeeeekret Tree." implementing some of van jacobson's stuff that he talked about at LCA [08:54] morning Universe [08:54] haha [08:54] Seeeeeeeeeeekret [08:54] it was one of the only talks to get a standing ovation I think [08:55] A modest proposal to help speed up & scale up the linux networking stack? [08:55] yes [08:55] modest indeed [08:56] it'd provide vast improvements on multi-core hardware [08:56] pity my boss didnt let me go to lca [08:56] quite a shame, it was very good this year [08:56] especially when im in auckland [08:56] it helped that I live 10 minutes walk away [08:56] hah === tdjb [n=tdjb@209.151.52.189] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@d023044.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theliz48__ [n=prout@mou06-1-82-246-4-197.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@ip68-226-0-76.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:28] uhh [09:28] did revu just go down? [09:29] why do you say that? [09:29] it appears to be working === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PhilKC [i=PhilKC@azureus/PhilKC] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-098-067.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:02] crimsun: still up for my package review and refresh upload? === joelbryan [n=joelbrya@210.213.158.141] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:02] hm [10:03] sivang: probably the wrong time of day to ask [10:03] ajmitch: ah, okay, what about you? :) [10:03] (It's already been uploaded and approved by jpatrick / slomo) === ajmitch is working on other stuff right now, sorry :) [10:04] ajmitch: k, np, thanks anyway. [10:04] seeing how long this box takes a build a kernel :) [10:07] hmm, that's rather boring, isn't it? :) [10:07] nice, about 8 minutes for a standard build [10:08] sivang: is it that urgent? ;) just wait until it's out of NEW... and then get the new version uploaded [10:09] hi slomo [10:09] slomo: what difference will it be then then now? oh, and hi btw :-) === lionelp [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:10] sivang: the uploader would have something to diff against... now he would need to review to complete package again (in theory) [10:11] slomo: ah, okay then. [10:12] amazing how many posts on the local LUG list are about ubuntu at the moment :) [10:12] including a few trying xubuntu on older hardware [10:14] crap, no j2re or j2se for this platform === Marticus [n=demart01@12-208-16-243.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B1451.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theliz48__ [n=prout@mou06-1-82-246-4-197.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:20] heya motu world! [10:20] mornign dholbach [10:20] hey sivang === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@mail.trinsite.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:21] hey dholbach [10:21] how are you? [10:22] hey ajmitch, fine - thanks [10:22] great :) [10:22] just got a nice croissant with nougat and chocolate from the bakery and a coffee [10:22] yummy [10:22] how are you? === ajmitch finally got ubuntu installed on another machine today - took 4 hours to install it [10:22] I'm good thanks [10:23] 4 hours? [10:23] yeah [10:23] slow cd [10:23] how so? [10:23] ahh [10:24] and very slow console for installer [10:24] 9600 baud, I think [10:24] crikey [10:24] it's odd considering what the rest of the machine is like :) [10:24] i use VM ware now for most of my install testing [10:24] :) [10:24] no way you could simulate this in vmware [10:24] heheh [10:25] sun T2000 [10:25] well not all of us are as hardcore as you ajmitch :p [10:25] no need to be sarcastic [10:25] i work in a school [10:26] hehehe [10:26] sorry ajmitch, wasn't trying to be sarvastic :p === theliz48_ [n=prout@mou06-1-82-246-4-197.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:28] how shall I change the source of pbuilder ? === kelmo_lap [n=kel@madwifi/support/kelmo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:31] hi siretart [10:31] hey kelmo_lap [10:32] siretart, can i ask for some assistance please? to clean up and tag/discuss some wpasup bugs [10:32] i have little good experience with the BTS . . . [10:32] hi siretart, how are you? [10:33] hey ajmitch - I'm fine, and you? [10:33] kelmo_lap: sure. what is it? [10:33] ok, lets see if the bug bot will work for me [10:34] debian bug #304087 [10:34] Debian bug 304087 in wpasupplicant "Subject: wpasupplicant not working with ipw2100 driver" [Important,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/304087 [10:34] awesome [10:34] i think fixed with: http://hostap.epitest.fi/bugz/show_bug.cgi?id=140 [10:34] which i have already ported to our 0.5 branch [10:34] fixes wext with static wep keys [10:35] i can port to 0.4.8 or we can wait for 0.4.9 [10:35] either way, we can tag that ticket as oending, i think [10:35] wow [10:35] s/oending/pending === Mongoose is away: /_\ zzZzZZZZzz [10:36] kelmo_lap: there is a shellscript called 'bts' in the devscripts package you can use [10:36] kelmo_lap: try 'bts tag 304087 pending' [10:36] ah cool, i shall read up on it, thanks [10:36] it expects a local mta functional though [10:36] hmm, i don't have that . . . === theliz48 [n=prout@mou06-1-82-246-4-197.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:36] control i must use [10:37] anyway, lets continue [10:37] debian bug #295445 [10:37] Debian bug 295445 in wpasupplicant "Subject: Please add hotplug support and driver autodetection" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/295445 [10:37] i think we disagreed on this one [10:37] kelmo_lap: just a mom [10:37] i don't like it one bit [10:37] siretart: good thanks :) [10:38] hostap #140 doesn't talk about static wep keying with ipw2100 - Are you sure these things are related? === ajmitch has to get wpasupplicant & networkmanager working together again [10:38] ajmitch: cool :) [10:38] siretart, related to wext [10:39] siretart: it currently just Doesn't Work :) [10:39] don't matter what damn driver, just the wpasupplicant backend [10:39] probably because I still have an old config file lying around [10:39] feel free to test it yourself with our 0.5 branch on ya girlfriends ipw2100 laptop [10:40] how do you use someone else patch and make derivatives of it? [10:40] kelmo_lap: ah, i see [10:41] kelmo_lap: If this really fixes the issue, I'd love to have this fix in dapper asap, since we are currently in deep freeze mode [10:41] siretart, well, i can easily port to 0.4 branch tonight if need be [10:41] trivial patch [10:41] or you can, whatever [10:42] a sec, boss in room [10:42] hehe [10:42] ajmitch, i've never attempted to use nm yet [10:42] ajmitch, can you chosse interfaces to control and not to control via nm? [10:42] choose* [10:45] I don't know [10:48] kelmo_lap: would be great, I'd happily test that patch on the affected laptop. she would be very thankful as well ;) === imbrandon [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:51] siretart, just committed [10:51] to stable branch [10:52] please test [10:52] if possible ; ) [10:52] thanks! will test it asap (most likely tomorrow) [10:52] siretart, that patch was so important it also went straight into 0.3 0.4 and 0.5 branches of upstream cvs [10:53] uuh. I see. [10:53] not many people must use wpa_supplicant for wep ; ) [10:54] ok. spotted the patch, it is a 4-liner, will test it asap [10:55] debian bug #354388 [10:55] Debian bug 354388 in wpasupplicant "Subject: wpasupplicant: please recompile with madwifi-dev" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/354388 [10:55] that is not valid [10:55] my new madwifi packaging does not and will not include a -dev package anymore === ealden [n=ealden@203.177.233.10] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:55] we have 2 options: either close it with explanation, or, if you think that ppl will reopen it anyway, mark it 'wontfix' [10:55] i will close it then [10:56] I agree [10:56] if they reopen (or refile dupes), we can mark them wontfix anyway [10:56] debian bug #350963 [10:56] Debian bug 350963 in wpasupplicant "Subject: wpasupplicant: wait-for-interface option -w does not work anymore" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/350963 [10:56] his argument was refuted on the hostap mailing list [10:57] oh [10:57] anyway, its not really pertinent to the package now [10:58] kelmo_lap: could you perhaps post a link to the bugreport to the relevant links on the mailing list? [10:58] if i can find them . . . [10:59] :) [11:00] one last thing, then i'll leave you alone [11:00] in 0.5 branch, i began putting the code in the ifupdown script into functions [11:00] to make it more readable [11:01] if you agree with that style, then i'd like to throw it into the stable packaging at some stage too [11:01] like in, -4? [11:02] up to you, thats why i ask [11:02] hm [11:02] considering that we are currently in deep freeze for dapper, I'd prefer focused patches to trunk/ [11:03] is it only refactoring or are there functional changes as well? [11:03] refactoring will allow functional changes to be integrated with greater ease [11:03] hm. I'd like to compare the to scripts first [11:03] i don't want to maintain two vastly different scripts for too long [11:04] me neither [11:04] well, they are not much different [11:04] but you know what i mean . . . [11:04] I understand. sure [11:07] hm. the refactoring makes very sense === ozamosi [n=nozamosi@h88n3c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ozamosi- [n=nnozamos@h88n3c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:09] siretart, looks much better now huh? [11:09] easier on the eye [11:10] especially for people looking at it for the first time [11:10] right [11:11] I'm happy to test it. lets put it to trunk, and I'll cherry pick fixes for the next ubuntu upload [11:11] thanks [11:13] and thanks for your time too, siretart [11:16] no problem. :) thanks for your work on wpasupplicant :) [11:17] I'm just annoyed about Felix :/ [11:17] ah, i am over it now [11:17] forget about that guy [11:18] if he wants something to be done, he needs to attach code with his whingy emails [11:18] because i think we are both way past satisfying that guy ;-) [11:19] maybe. But I still don't want to appear like an bad maintainer [11:22] what you are doing is fine [11:22] it is impossible to do what every single bug reporter wants you to [11:22] but this guy is just a bit too persintent, and testing some nerves [11:22] that is all [11:23] we will get that roamin solution when we have a chance (and we are not replying to the same thing every other day) [11:23] roaming* === theliz48 [n=prout@mou06-1-82-246-4-197.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:24] maybe you're right [11:25] originally i was going to start hacking on one straight away, but then the wifiroamd project was born [11:25] so i guess that effort should be backed [11:29] siretart, well, hopefully the small patch will fix that static wep key issue, i am pretty confident it will, but of course cannot be sure about driver specific problems [11:29] siretart, if it does, we can tag that changelog entry [11:30] later [11:30] apologies for all the noise motu's ;-) === kelmo_lap [n=kel@madwifi/support/kelmo] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Later"] [11:31] hah, as if talking about packaging is going to be off-topic [11:32] so, I'm out for lunch [11:32] bye! === theliz48_ [n=prout@mou06-1-82-246-4-197.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kelmo_lap [n=kel@madwifi/support/kelmo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:58] siretart, forgot to discuss one other thing before, but that can wait until after dinner ;-) === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:32] siretart, also, we should end this poisonous mailing list thread . . . [12:33] you're right. I should finally focus on my thesis here [12:33] yes, that is far more important === theliz48_ [n=prout@mou06-1-82-246-4-197.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryu [n=chris@p5487E9C2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theliz48__ [n=prout@mou06-1-82-246-4-197.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@84.Red-83-55-199.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theliz48 [n=prout@mou06-1-82-246-4-197.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=Viking@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-240-223.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:09] someone update and ask for UVFe libsdl please ? [02:22] I'm going to file a bunch of bug reports with the the prefix [UNMETDEPS] in a bit and subscribe motu to them [02:22] that way it should be easy to get a list and them fixed for release [02:22] which is good [02:22] YAY! === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK jumps on Hobbsee. === Hobbsee steals StevenK's fingers [02:24] OW! [02:24] I need those to fix bugs! [02:24] Besides, typing with my nose is annoying. [02:25] oops! [02:25] i meant "keyboard" not "fingers" [02:25] Heh. [02:25] Now I can't type at all. :-( [02:25] hehe [02:27] just use gok === TheMuso decides to stand at the door and hand everybody foam protection suits so that Hobbsee can't do any damage to anyone. [02:28] Or maybe something a bit thicke. [02:28] hehe === Mithrandir sprays foam at Hobbsee [02:28] not like i'd be able to do much damage anyway - i should be worried about you all doing damage to me [02:28] Hobbsee: getting picked on again? :) === Hobbsee accesses the secret stash, and sprays capsicum spray at Mithrandir === Mithrandir goes to wikipedia to see what capsicum is. === dewd [n=dewd@201009186251.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee has heard that the police use it [02:29] Heh [02:29] Some. [02:29] I'd rather eat them [02:29] THe red ones in particular. [02:29] hehe [02:30] Capsicum spray isn't really capsicum. [02:30] good thing I had a helmet on, then [02:30] Capsicum spray is vile, and *hurts*. [02:30] Dear me. Must have been something we said. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:31] StevenK: haha [02:31] it timed out, for some reason - it's done it before === Hobbsee wonders if there's a rotten new exploit out [02:32] there's one which instantly panics your box, at least [02:32] hehe [02:33] yes, but i'm using the workaround for that [02:33] "not having local users"? [02:33] at least of the kind you don't trust. [02:33] hehe [02:33] no, only one user on this machine, and thats me [02:34] Mithrandir: The ip multicast bug? [02:34] StevenK: yep [02:34] That's a fun DoS. === Hobbsee wonders what that is [02:37] Hobbsee: "ip r g 224.0.0.1 iif eth0" [02:37] With a 'dev eth0' in there. [02:37] ah right... [02:37] you don't need dev eth0, do you? [02:38] I'm unsure, and I don't really want to try it. :-) === zerokarmaleft [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:38] it worked without eth0 when I tried it on my test box. === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:dholbach] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | We are in feature freeze now. Focus on http://tinyurl.com/nl87h and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DhIconCacheChanges and http://tinyurl.com/rjcqu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:59] heylo === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:10] ok, so if y'all search for UNMETDEPS in Launchpad's bugs, we should have a little list of bugs that should mostly be a rebuild [03:10] (and I fixed the bug with the wrong subjects in the meantime) :) [03:11] dholbach: yeah, thanks, I'll get rebuilding === pygi_ [n=pygi@83-131-247-95.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@210.213.78.99] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:11] I've assigned a bunch of zope* bugs to myself :) [03:11] rock on - Karma love for you! [03:11] waiting for syncs, and need to upload some python evils [03:12] sivang, congrats [03:12] hi MOTUs ! :D [03:12] Accepted upbackup 0.0.1 (source) [03:15] Gloubiboulga: some of the uninstallable packages are xubuntu ones [03:16] Gloubiboulga: you guys don't seam to default subscribe your team to those packages, do you? [03:16] xfce4-wavelan-plugin for example [03:16] dholbach, some plugins are not suscribed to the Xubuntu team, I'll add them [03:16] rock on === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:17] hope those uninstallables are easy to fix === dholbach hugs Gloubiboulga [03:17] the uninstallable plugins are the ones which have not been ported to the new panel yet [03:17] ah ok [03:17] i see [03:17] not really easy to fix, and it's upstream job... [03:18] dholbach, do I have to do anything technically before starting uploads [03:18] like getting my gpg key signed [03:19] Gloubiboulga: um [03:19] Gloubiboulga: you don't have a key on launchpad yet? [03:20] dholbach, it's on [03:20] sounds good [03:20] try it :) [03:21] ajmitch: if we remove zope2.7, can we subscribe 'ubuntu-archive' to the bug and look into getting it done? [03:21] ok, I have a few in progress bugs, it's time to upload :) [03:21] ajmitch: or when is the removal planned? [03:21] GO Gloubiboulga, GO GO GO! === zakame hugs Gloubiboulga [03:23] I wonder if remove-packages.py actually works now. [03:23] dholbach: #39631 === Gloubiboulga hugs zakame back === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:24] bug 39631 [03:24] Malone bug 39631 in Ubuntu "sync and removal requests: zope*" [Normal,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/39631 [03:24] ajmitch: thanks - then close the bug - it has no point [03:24] ok [03:26] ogra: ? [03:26] ogra: ah ;-) [03:26] ogra: Well, already pending a fix. I need someone to upload the new fixed packaged, which I already uploaded to revu for ease of check and retrival :) [03:27] ogra: and thanks :) === theliz48 [n=prout@mou06-1-82-246-4-197.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:31] is everything okay with revu? [03:31] it does not respond anymore. [03:38] groovy, my first upload has been accepted :) === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:48] Heya gang [03:49] hey bddebian [03:49] Hello Gloubiboulga === svaksha [n=svaksha@unaffiliated/svaksha] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] hi bddebian [04:00] Heya zakame [04:23] Ohh, vnc4 4.1.1 from Unstable builds and installs.. Hmm === CarlFK [n=carl@c-67-163-39-124.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:36] :)zakame, thanks for taking on the streamtuner bugs [04:36] carthik: hey, no problem [04:37] I'm preparing a patch as soon as I get my upload privs back, courtesy of malone 41102 :) [04:37] Malone bug 41102 in qprocd "Could not upload any Universe packages; email parsing bug?" [Major,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/41102 [04:37] zul: ping === farruinn [n=farruinn@ssprange-3.umm.maine.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:34] bddebian: pong [05:38] zul: Caught up yet? ;-P [05:39] bddebian: no i was watching the hockey game last night [05:40] im a canadian and its the play-offs ;) [05:40] Heh === cbx33 [n=pete@84-45-238-195.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:52] its quiet today [05:53] Yeah, you better be working ;-P [05:53] Heya cbx33 [05:53] hey bddebian === lbm [n=lbm@82.192.169.174] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:54] i will when i get home :P === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:01] Heya Seveas, highvoltage [06:01] hi bddebian! 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[07:14] to launchpad [07:15] kk [07:15] yeah, file a bug. [07:17] 32 is already building with the fix since 1h so you'll surely find a bug about it [07:17] re [07:19] wb sivang === Ubugtu_1 [n=bugbot@81.171.100.21] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:20] hey bddebian , anything broken already ? :) === erez [n=erez@85-250-28-232.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:21] sivang: xorg apparently but I didn't do that one ;-P === bddebian opens the floodgates of -motu ML [07:22] bddebian: I would be scared if you have, MOTU is not dealing with xorg as it's in main right? [07:22] Aye [07:23] bddebian: care to upload a fixed version of upbackup for me in a couple of seconds? === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@www.binaries4all.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:26] bug 41305 [07:26] Malone bug 41305 in scilab "Scilab version is old, new stable version is 4." [Normal,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/41305 [07:26] tuxmaniac: D00d, keep dreaming :-) [07:27] bddebian: Why this? [07:28] tuxmaniac: Need UVF exceptions for all your "new" packages :-) [07:28] bddebian: Yeah!!! I got it :( I know what you mean also! [07:29] tuxmaniac: Actually they are fairly self contained so you could file UVF bugs for them [07:45] Does setting up a new pbuilder environment usually take a while? It's been on "Checking component main..." for quite a while === raphink-pbook [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:48] Ignore my question - it just wasn't being verbose about downloading stuff [07:53] bddebian: I've uploaded a fixed version to revu, will you be able to review and upload? === sivang needs to become a MOTU [07:55] bddebian: Am off now! And will not be in IRC Tomorrow mostly as I am travelling :) See ya [07:57] tuxmaniac: did you package scilab 4? === tuxmaniac says Scilab is not free software! [07:57] LaserJock: You want me to ? I can do it [07:57] But I thought I will get MAgic up! [07:58] tuxmaniac: dude, I think scilab4 is going to be a beast [07:58] tuxmaniac: did you get any reviews from xcircuit on REVU? [07:58] LaserJock: Not yet! HAve some errors on Lintian but the previous package also has the same! [08:00] tuxmaniac: yeah, there is some stuff that needs to be taken care of, if I have time I'll try to do a more thorough review and make a comment [08:00] thank u! LaserJock I am still new to packaging! So the more the revoew points more helpful it would be [08:02] yes, learn by doing [08:02] LaserJock: Oh my god.. Scilab is really gonna be one!!! [08:02] MOTU is a great place to learn to package [08:02] helluva lot of features added also !! [08:03] But LaserJock Does everybody know that Scilab is _Not_ free software! It was pointed out by one of my friends [08:03] tuxmaniac: yeah, that is why I wasn't too keen on packaging 4 [08:04] LaserJock: :)) [08:04] LaserJock: Octave? [08:04] tuxmaniac: what about it? [08:06] LaserJock: Nothing! I was thinking something and typed something [08:06] k [08:06] LaserJock: HAve to leave now! Will be pretty late on IRC tomorrow! [08:06] cya tuxmaniac [08:06] LaserJock: Bye === caravena [n=caravena@200.55.195.158] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zerokarmaleft [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:12] ya know, sometimes I could just strangle Mr. Gates :/ [08:13] I but a new motherboard in the HP I bought in 2002, now Windows XP refuses to recognize my key === dzonni [n=dzonni@217-159-219-166-dsl.est.estpak.ee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@ip68-226-0-76.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik_home [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:33] How do I clear or remove a specific package from my downloaded cache? [08:34] FunnyLookinHat: I usually just go to /var/cache/apt/archives and rm it [08:34] LaserJock, sweet thanks === ryu [n=chris@p5487E9C2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink-pbook [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:09] Heya jaldhar [09:14] howdy bddebian === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:15] Heya LaserJock === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zerokarmaleft [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:19] can anyone close bug 34996 === Gervystar [n=alessand@ip-124-244.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:23] freeflying-ibook: you can't? [09:24] LaserJock: howw to do it? [09:24] freeflying-ibook: mark it "Fix Released" or "Rejected" === imbrandon [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:26] LaserJock: thx === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tm_T [n=tm_travo@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [i=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:37] Gawd I hate it when work gets in the way of my Ubuntu work.. :-) [09:39] hi everyone ;) [09:40] hey Tonio_ :) [09:40] Heya Tonio_ [09:41] ;) === sys8794 [i=GripShin@adsl-65-71-180-185.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tm_T [i=tm_travo@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:43] if someone packaged captive-ntfs what are the chances it could get included in a dapper flight? [09:44] isnt that the binary only driver? [09:44] zero ? [09:45] it is a script written to r/w to ntfs [09:46] there is already a lice cd (trinity rescue kit) that uses it, however since ubuntu is my fav I was wandering if there was a way to get that included ? [09:47] chances of a brand new experimental module loading proprietary ms code going into a dapper install cd post beta: [09:47] "not gonna happen" [09:47] feature freeze was a long time ago, and kernel freeze has past [09:50] ok well I hadnt had a chance to keep up with all of the deadlines I have been out of country (with no access) for last 8 months. Now I am back where I have access trying to make things happen so thought I would ask [09:51] you missed the boat for dapper unfortunately [09:52] no worries actually it will give me time to package and test, and include in beta on own, and if I can create a stable encior then I will try for next flight so we can get it included [09:53] encior-envior (short for enviorment:) === sys8794 [i=GripShin@adsl-65-71-180-185.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === redguy [n=mati@adn235.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@ip68-226-0-76.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:04] hello [10:05] hi pef ! === redguy_ [n=mati@acr5.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:06] Gloubiboulga: salut, j'ai bien recu ton mail ;) [10:07] pef, ok, a me tenait coeur de te prvenir :) [10:08] c'est sympa :] === seth|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:12] yay, I just got a job offer as a Perl developer [10:12] I guess I gotta go learn Perl now === Tm_T [i=tm_travo@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@3.71.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef_ [n=loic@dyn-83-157-215-162.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:18] dolson: I feel sorry for you ;( [10:18] lol [10:18] Whatever dude, I haven't had a job since December [10:19] I'm just glad I don't have to move to another city now [10:20] LaserJock: why? among us there are people who has to do PHP for a living ;-) [10:20] arggh, you all just need to go into the sciences where we use *real* languages like Fortran [10:21] sivang: hah-hah [10:21] I like PHP, but I don't have a choice here [10:22] at least they will allow me to run Ubuntu on my system at this place :) [10:24] I only know a little python and fortran :/ [10:25] *shudder* fortran [10:25] I've had a hard time getting my advisor to let me use python instead of Fortran [10:25] but we still use it for most everything [10:26] MOTUs, if we have a bug in ubuntu for foo_1.4-1, and debian's foo_1.4-2 fixes it, can we just sync the package? [10:27] my advisor almost had a fit when he bought us all iMacs and then realized that they don't have g77 [10:27] Gloubiboulga: If it is just a revision update for a bug fix, yes afaik [10:27] Gloubiboulga: yes, if it builds ok, etc. [10:28] ok, so do I just upload the package (after testing it), or is there something else to do for syncs? [10:28] Oh no [10:28] File a sync request bug on LP [10:28] Unless you need to make Ubuntu changes, then you can upload [10:28] ah ok [10:28] Gloubiboulga: wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources [10:28] thanks LaserJock [10:29] and bddebian :) [10:29] :-) === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [10:29] Gloubiboulga: you made MOTU? !!! [10:30] LaserJock, yep :) [10:30] Gloubiboulga: congrats!! [10:31] thanks LaserJock :) === seth|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef__ [n=loic@dyn-83-157-215-224.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:33] I think I finally got all the NEW packages in I wanted, and removed all the ones I wanted :-) [10:35] Oh cool, so xcircuit got in? :-) === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [i=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:42] bye everybody [10:43] bye dholbach! [10:44] bye highvoltage [10:44] bye daniel [10:45] bye dholbach [10:45] bye dolson, crimsun *wave* [10:45] yay, I have the same issue as zak [10:45] and we'll both be using the same hackaround for soyuz :( [10:45] err, :) [10:47] :-( [10:47] it's a good thing -- we can both upload again :) [10:50] Oh, cool === jinty [n=jinty@84.Red-83-55-199.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === farruinn [n=farruinn@ssprange-3.umm.maine.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:03] ackk, my virtual machine ate my network connection === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-24-209-126-16.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === awb4422 [n=awb4422@12-210-86-35.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryu [n=chris@p5487E9C2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon- [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === carthik_home [n=carthik@pdpc/supporter/student/carthik] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:01] i've made a patch for bug 41547, (url in bug comment) can someone review, apply and upload fix? [12:01] Malone bug 41547 in kbanking "[UNMETDEPS] xsim has unmet dependencies" [Normal,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/41547 === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu