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NickGarveysethk: so stupid..12:00
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moparfan90hello everyone12:00
sethkNickGarvey, boot a rescue cd12:00
aaron_are there any problems with setting up unrealircd with ubuntu12:00
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mweNickGarvey: just add init=/bin/sh at the end of the line and change ro to rw then type passwd when you are booted to set the password12:00
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NickGarveymwe: ah ok, thank you12:00
jadaz87NickGarvey do you know how to run php from commandline? it should be: php bot.php right??12:00
mweNickGarvey: or /bin/bash12:00
moparfan90whats that command thing in this IRC channel to make the bot tell you about how to install NVIDIA drivers?12:00
mweNickGarvey: init=/bin/bash12:00
sethkmwe, I'd expect a /bin/sh link12:00
moparfan90o wait nevermind12:01
mianiakENE|Toxic, /etc/init.d/networking restart worked , i can now see eth0 in ifconfig eth0, but when i ifconfig eth0 up i get this error, i tried ifconfig eth0 down then up and same error, SIOCSIFFLAGS: Device or resource busy. then i do an dhclient eth0 and it comes back with send_packet network down.12:01
sethkmwe, so either should work12:01
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morosenickrud: right, the idea was to avoid babysitting it at first..it's going to be enough work installing and configuring all the services12:01
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bolshNo PPC flash answers?12:01
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: You should not have to perform "ifconfigh eth0 up". Turning it down may sometime require you to restart the network adapter again.12:01
knighthello12:02
moroseoh no...what is all this crap12:02
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nickrudmorose, I was really exaggerating the downside, while hinting at the upside. Once you have a working server, you will spend an astonishingly small amount of time babysitting.12:02
morosei just booted the kernel and installing a ton of crap i don't want...like nano12:03
Lynoure01:00, time for me to give up for today.12:03
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: I've had no good experience with ifconfig up/down, it just seems to set a flag and not the affect the actual network. All you should have to do is start the network and get an IP using dhclient, and then you're set to go.12:03
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morosenickrud: yeah..that's what i am hoping for...everytime the gentoo box gets updated, my sh!t breaks to my complete and utter dismay12:03
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nickrudmorose, the specific example you mention, nano, is a required package. A design decision, a simple usable editor that always works.12:04
morosenickrud: vive vi :>12:04
mianiakENE|Toxic, ok, i restarted it again ran dhclient eth0 and it is still down, what happened is my 10 month old daughter was sitting on my lap  when i was in the terminal and she typed something into it and since then i lost it, i dont even know what she typed in heh :)12:04
morosevi++12:04
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kbrooksmorose: flamebait!12:04
morosevim++12:04
nickrudmorose, so add it :)12:04
nickrud!editorwars12:04
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nickrud12:04
morosenickrud: i will12:04
nickrud!editor wars12:04
ubotunickrud: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:04
morosekbrooks: pfft :)12:04
nickrudheh. Gone :)12:05
kbrooks!editor war12:05
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kbrooks12:05
kbrooks!editor12:05
ubotu[editor]  ed, vim, nano, emacs, gedit, kate, bluefish, gvim, pida, eclipse, nvu, quanta12:05
Jowiwhere is mousepad in that list?12:05
HaxoR91how do i make totem work with any media files?12:06
HaxoR91i cant run anything on it12:06
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: she probably typed something like "aboogabaa" which is a secret command to turn off the network. On a more serious note, sometimes restarting the network won't do it. I've had this problem too, I've tried most of what I could think of, and yet I ended up rebooting the computer to get it to work again. So my advice to you is to reboot the computer when you can't get the network to functino properly again using /etc/init.d/network start.12:06
wprhello! another problem with ubuntu dapperdrake 6.. trying to add a norwegian keymap using Keyboard preferences, but I get the error "Error activating XXB configuration", and it refers to errors in libxklavier library, and the X server... any ideas?12:06
morosewtf!@#!@#!@12:06
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rustlerharvHaxoR91: what version ubuntu are you rinnig12:06
HaxoR915.1012:07
mianiakENE|Toxic, ok i will give that a go, i have rebooted it before but i will try again,12:07
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: type "history" in the console and you will see the last 500 commands typed into it.12:07
nickrudwpr, you will probably get more traction in #ubuntu+112:07
morosenickrud: i'm hating this already....in the stupid gui install, there was never a place to set up a root passwd....!@#!@#!12:07
ciplogicHello... how do I change the drive name to Ubuntu?  I have as name:12:07
ciplogic+12:07
ciplogic // End;12:07
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nickrudmorose, heh. welcome to sudo12:07
gnomefreakmorose: ubuntu doesnt have a root password12:07
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HaxoR91rustlerharv: how do i fix it?12:07
gnomefreakit does just disabled12:07
rustlerharvHaxoR91: there are packges in synaptic you can install idk what they are for breezy12:07
nickrudmorose, sudo gives you so much more control over adminstrative issues than a root account12:08
linxehI'm having a problem with my SD/MMC card reader - [4490680.628000]  generic_make_request: Trying to access nonexistent block-device mmcblk0 (0). I have tried mknod to create the device (even though there was a device there already) and it still isn't working. Any ideas?12:08
JowiHaxoR91: gstreamer0.8-plugins is what you want. that will install them all12:08
morosenickrud gnomefreak: euhhhh and if you type su, you are prompted for a password, what then?12:08
ciplogicI use ubuntu dapper :)12:08
mianiakENE|Toxic, fc ?12:08
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nickrudmorose, sudo -i12:08
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JowiHaxoR91: you also have gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse12:08
nickrudmorose, that gives you the exact same situation as su -12:08
morosenickrud: oyeeeee  em em *runs around in circles*12:08
navidjoonI downloaded firefox 1.5.0.2 and I want to have it running by typing firefox in the Alt+F2 dialog box. What should I do?12:08
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: that just opens vim, a text-editor12:09
nickrudmorose, lol, you amuse me :)12:09
gnomefreaknavidjoon: if you follow the guide it should just work12:09
ciplogicHow/where I change the drive names to GNOME?12:09
seamus-laptopciplogic: clarification?12:09
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: By the way, are you using wlan ?12:09
navidjoonIt works12:09
gnomefreakshould meaning it did here12:09
mianiakENE|Toxic, no just lan12:09
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ciplogicseamus-laptop: one drive gets a strange name: a multiline drive name12:09
gnomefreaknavidjoon: type firefox in alt+f212:09
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ENE|Toxicmian1ak: k, reboot and let me know if it works12:09
ciplogicThe all others are normal (drive size)12:09
mianiakENE|Toxic, k12:09
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navidjoonThe problem is if I type firefox in the Alt+F2 dialog in brings on the older version since it's in the path12:10
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seamus-laptopciplogic: where are you seeing this?12:10
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navidjoonNow I want to have the new firefox running12:10
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ciplogicIn places... anywhere :)12:10
gnomefreaknavidjoon: if you ran the divert command it should use firefox 1.5.0.2 for default12:10
ciplogicThe name is: + \n //End;12:10
ciplogicFor that drive12:10
dabaRRemove old one from the path, link to new one in the path.12:10
navidjoondivert command? What is it?12:11
gnomefreakthe instructions are there for that i think there is a divert command and an ls command12:11
gnomefreaknavidjoon: its on the wiki12:11
morosenickrud: mkay so any secret switches needed for apt-get?  i'm about to install apache212:11
ciplogicMy question is how to define at least even after a format...12:11
seamus-laptopciplogic: what drive?12:11
dabaRmorose: --super-secret-special12:11
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ciplogicWas an old C letter from WIndows12:11
morosedabaR: seeee..that's what i thought :/12:11
ciplogicI removed Windows and I format as ReiserFS12:12
ciplogicUsing System->Admin->Disks12:12
nickrudmorose, secret switches? (and I am going to strongly recommend aptitude)12:12
ciplogicseamus-laptop: anyway: if it needs another format to another FS please to say... I backup data... and I will do everything to not be multiline drive12:13
ciplogicAs name12:13
navidjoonFound it gnomefreak, thanks for help12:13
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ciplogicIs really annoying that bug :(12:13
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NickGarveyI win!12:14
seamus-laptopciplogic: have you tried cfdisk?12:14
ciplogicnope12:14
rustlerharvdoes anyone know how i can fix having to run gaim as root12:14
ciplogicbut cfdisk is a fdisk12:14
ciplogicI don't know if knows to format a drive12:14
redguyciplogic: it doesn't12:14
nickrudNickGarvey, heh. You been a loser too ? :)12:14
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gnomefreaknavidjoon: your welcome12:15
wobbleWhat package do I need to be able to see shares on a networked Windows computer?12:15
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NickGarveynickrud: heh I locked my root password12:15
seamus-laptopciplogic: you may need to repartition / reformat that drive12:15
wobbleSamba?12:15
NickGarveywobble: yessir, /msg ubotu samba for me12:15
navidjoonwobble: samba12:15
NickGarveywobble: s/me/more/12:15
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nickrudNickGarvey, why did you ever unlock it in the first place ;)12:15
wobbleOkay, thankyou guys12:15
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seamus-laptopciplogic: resier4 is still fairly new, untested, and ubggy12:16
ciplogicseamus-laptop: in which FS?12:16
NickGarveynickrud: suse 10.012:16
Alihi all12:16
ciplogicI used reiser12:16
ciplogicNot reiser412:16
Imperio59stupid quick and dirty question: if i did "sudo rm -r /" would that delete every file on my system?12:16
seamus-laptopah12:16
ciplogicImperio59: yes12:16
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Imperio59hmm'k :)12:16
rustlerharvImperio59: i thing its -rf but ya you can12:16
ciplogicDon't do on your system12:16
Imperio59couldn't be assed to check, thanks :p12:16
redguyImperio59: most of them, yes12:16
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gnomefreakImperio59: i doubt it because you didnt give it enough parameters but feel free to try :(12:16
Imperio59yea that's why i ask12:16
mlehrercat /dev/random > /dev/hda12:16
Alihow can i make a pppd connection on startup ?12:16
ciplogicyou may chheck after a chroot command12:16
Imperio59I don't really feel like trying12:17
Imperio59:)12:17
mlehrerjust kidding there12:17
redguymlehrer: not funny12:17
ciplogicseamus-laptop: I shoud reformat?12:17
Alianyone ?12:17
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ciplogicAli:12:17
funkyhi12:17
ciplogicPreferences-12:18
ciplogic.Sessionm12:18
nickrudImperio59, it's a learning experience, if you have the partition to examine afterwards :)12:18
funkywhen is finally planned the next release ?12:18
Aliciplogic: startup, not login12:18
nickrud!dapper12:18
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)12:18
gnomefreakImperio59: yes it will remove all directories and their contents12:18
funkynickrud: thx12:18
gnomefreakman rm will give you the info12:18
morosenickrud: heh...i got it fixed up now so root can log in anyways..none of this sudo -i stuff12:19
Alianyone ?12:19
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mianiakENE|Toxic, its booting now , it gets to configuring network interfaces and says ok, then goes to waiting for network to come up, pauses for a while says ok, then when it gets to syncing time it fails the time sync. maybe it is a hardware problem and just a coincidence when my daughter went ape in terminal, when i ifconfig eth0 i get HWaddr FF:FF:FF:FF:FF12:19
rustlerharvis there a way i can change it so i dont have to be root to run progs12:19
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ciplogicAny idea how may I setup the drive names in Ubuntu/GNOME?12:19
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linxehapt-get nightmare - how can I fix this error which stops me installing/removing anything?   dpkg-divert: mismatch on divert-to when removing `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/share/fglrx/diversions/libGL.so.1.2 by xorg-driver-fglrx' found `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx'12:20
nickrudmorose, there are a lot of useable security models. But, please use the sudo one on this channel12:20
moroseare you ppl using openssh?12:20
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morosenickrud: emmm oki12:20
Alimorose: yes12:20
fiendskull9hey guys12:20
endersshadowciplogic: are you talking like C:\ in windows?12:20
nickrudmorose, it'll make it easier for the next guy :)12:20
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fiendskull9what basic language would you reccomend for programming a simple multi-user chat? server-client12:20
svu_why oh why mt-daapd is not in ubuntu repository?12:20
morosenickrud: understood....only two ppl have access to the actual physical box, here, so its no huge deal to login as root12:21
Alifiendskull9: python or ruby12:21
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NickGarveyyeah python is very easy12:21
morosenickrud: i mean, in my case, but i understand the desire for consistency on the channel12:21
ciplogicendersshadow: I have an ex-drive of C:\ of windows12:21
nickrudmorose, yeah :)12:21
ciplogicendersshadow: and I format it12:21
fiendskull9Ali, ok, i was thinking python :), im waiting for a guy to send me a TCPcommunications class for REALbasic.12:21
alekzhi, im going to buy a new pc thinking on a AMD 64 3200 FX, how good is ubuntu 64 ??12:22
endersshadowciplogic: all right, linux deals with drives and the file structure a lot differently than windows does12:22
Alifiendskull9: REALBasic is closed source12:22
biovoreI am running kubuntu 64bit here.. works fine12:22
ciplogicendersshadow: as reiserfs and at the end I sow a strange name as was plus a new line //End;12:22
Alifiendskull9: and you won't get enough support from community12:22
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: You daughter should by no reason be able to have done anything to your system. That it fails time sync is because it cannot find ntp.ubuntu.com. Have you tried "ping 127.0.0.1". You can also check "lshw -C network" to find informatino about your hardware specifics. Make sure it's eth0 and the fields are accurate.12:22
fiendskull9ok12:22
Alifiendskull9: python and asynchat module12:22
rustlerharvhow differnt is kbuntu12:22
Alifiendskull9: or ruby12:22
ciplogicbiovore: my question is how do I setup that to change a name to drives12:22
nickrudrustlerharv, the desktop will be totally different, but the guts are all the same12:23
ciplogicendersshadow: At least the coresponding to /media/C12:23
biovoreciplogic: setup what for what?12:23
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rustlerharvhow differnt is kde12:23
endersshadowciplogic: what does your /etc/fstab look like?12:23
NickGarveyrustlerharv: try it and find out ;)12:23
ciplogicis normal12:23
rustlerharvive only run ubuntu12:23
jadaz87does anyone know how i set an username and password  for mysql?12:23
nickrudkde is evil, gnome is heaven :)12:23
gnomefreakrustlerharv: its different12:23
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mianiakENE|Toxic, k12:23
NickGarveyxfce > all12:23
rustlerharvi like gnome12:23
linxehrustlerharv, : I have ubuntu with the kubuntu desktop added, so I can switch between both12:23
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: That you said, about ifconfig tells you your MAC address is ff:ff:ff... That's a good sign to that your system doesn't recognise your networking card properly. You should have a uniqe mac-address.12:23
ciplogiclike that: /dev/hda1       /media/C        reiserfs defaults      0        012:24
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gnomefreakrustlerharv: it makes me think of windows desktop :(12:24
rustlerharveww12:24
gnomefreaklol12:24
endersshadowciplogic: all right, so it's mounting to /media/C just fine or do you just want to change the name in media?12:24
NickGarveyhow do you make an ubotu factoid refer to another one?12:24
nickrudrustlerharv, gnomefreak is exaggerating, it's not that bad12:24
gnomefreakrustlerharv: it has a K in lower left hand corner (your start menu)12:24
biovorejadaz87: use mysql admin to set the password for root.. then use the grant command to setup users12:24
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ciplogicendersshadow: name is ok... mounting too\12:25
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jadaz87biovore what is the terminal command for mysqladmin?12:25
gnomefreaknickrud: no? than you have your "launchers" to the right of the K12:25
Alianyone willing to help me with pppd ?12:25
ciplogicendersshadow: but in GNOME the name is really strange12:25
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gnomefreakand the apps dock at bottom12:25
biovorejadaz87: see mysql.com support documents12:25
ciplogicendersshadow: and takes 2 lines as name :-S12:25
rustlerharvred hat is kde isnt it12:25
N2DIYHi, how to I get email with evolution, the send/receive button is ghosted out.12:25
nickrudgnomefreak, er, I'm thinking kde 2.2 or so, it can't have gotten truly evil, only relatively :)12:25
linxehis there a way to manipulate the package installation list by hand?12:25
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gnomefreakthat reminds me way too much of windows lol12:25
jshriverGreetings12:25
endersshadowciplogic: okay, give me just a second12:25
ciplogicSure12:25
redguyjadaz87: also, you might want to check /usr/share/doc/mysql12:25
jshriverIs it possible to convert from Debian stable to ubuntu?12:26
A[D] minSNighty all12:26
rustlerharvi tinhk my schools computers use kde12:26
ciplogicjshiver: install first the kernel, reboot12:26
nickrudjshriver, no, you should do a fresh install for debian12:26
jshriverw/o FFR12:26
ciplogicjshiver: then after reboot to me works12:26
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gnomefreakjshriver: its not recommended things have a 98% chance of breaking badly12:26
biovorejadaz87: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/grant.html12:26
linxehie I want to remove a package that is installed from the lists, but keep the package installed (well, I want to remove the package, but I cant, so I figure if I can overwrite it I might be able to uninstall)12:26
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linxehor should I do a fresh install?12:26
jshriverI've been a debian user for years.. and starting to get tired of the lack off applications... some of the ppl in my lug are big ubuntu fans.. so thought I'd give it a shot12:26
nickrudlinxeh, eh, more info?12:26
gnomefreaklinxeh: what package and what errors when you try to remove it12:27
nickrudjshriver, unstable?12:27
linxehapt-get nightmare - how can I fix this error which stops me installing/removing anything?   dpkg-divert: mismatch on divert-to when removing `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/share/fglrx/diversions/libGL.so.1.2 by xorg-driver-fglrx' found `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx'12:27
biovorelinxeh: is that package a dependancy for another package12:27
jshrivernickrud, na stable.. and another machine is running testing12:27
linxehRemoving xorg-driver-fglrx ...12:27
linxehon that package12:27
mianiakENE|Toxic, ping 127.0.0.1 works, lshw -C network comes back with, network dissabled, though it recognises the n/w card12:27
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biovorelinxeh: I have noticed alot of people having problems with this fglrx stuff12:27
jshriverbut some of the apps Iwant are in testing, but I dont want to upgrade to testing just to get a couple applications12:27
borgistaAnybody else having Dapper MPlayer-plugin woes too?12:27
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jshriverubuntu is debian like right? I can still use apt-get/apt-cache dpkg?12:28
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Bilangefor the record, I also had this kind of problem-- dont remember what I did to get rid of the nag12:28
redguyAli: the initscript check if file /etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot exists on boot12:28
nickrudjshriver, the tools are identical12:28
gnomefreakjshriver: yes12:28
NickGarveyborgista: most likely in #ubuntu+1 would be the best place to check12:28
linxehbiovore: yeah,  its because there arent any real suitable packages yet - I want to drop it and stick with standard I guess12:28
biovoreborgista: I built mplayer from source, newest cvs works alot better then that package in multiverse12:28
borgistaThanks12:28
linxehalthough Xgl is so nice to use :o12:28
gnomefreakjshriver: the packages are _not_ the same hence the reason things will break on cross platform upgrade12:28
Beaksterhi, im thinking about installing Ubuntu in a Athlon 800 512MB to use for mythtv.  DOes that soud like a good idea?  or better to stick with debian?12:28
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: network disabled ? That's odd. I'm not really sure how to fix that. I'm guessing you can't ping a local server or your router?12:28
NickGarveyxgl is beautiful..12:28
nickrudxgl is october away (I hope)12:29
NickGarveymian1ak: ifconfig eth0 shows stuff though?12:29
redguyAli: if it's set as executable it will be run, otherwise pppd call provided is issued12:29
biovorenickrud: I had it working in dapper just a little while ago12:29
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rustlerharvBeakster: i cant get mythtv to work right but im and idiot so12:29
fiveironwhats a good php editor?12:29
NickGarveyfiveiron: vi12:29
redguyAli: s/issued/executed/12:29
NickGarvey;)12:29
dabaReclipse, vi, gedit, bluefish12:29
mianiakENE|Toxic, nope cant ping local NickGarvey yes12:29
fiveironNickGarvey: heheh12:29
redguyfiveiron: vim, emacs, kate12:29
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fiveironsorry let me clarify12:30
NickGarveymianiak: do you have an IP?12:30
ciplogicendersshadow any result?:12:30
NickGarveymianiak: like 192.168.*.*?12:30
Bilangefiveiron: bluefish was a favourite of mine, although eclipse might be a good idea if you have a fast machine too12:30
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endersshadowciplogic: yeah, i'm looking for the program to rename reiserfs partitions12:30
fiveironi'm looking for a php code beautifier which IDEALLY also has the capability from within the application to open and save files on a remote ftp server12:30
mianiakNickGarvey, nope, ifconfig eth0 would show ip yes?12:30
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N2DIYhow do I get Evolution to fetch my mail, the send/receive button is ghosted out.12:31
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ENE|Toxicmian1ak: But it won't show mac-address (but ff:ff..) ?12:31
ciplogicendershadow: I think that is only a GNOME issue, and to remane it in GConf or somelike that12:31
NickGarveymianiak: I don't understand what you just said? could you pastebin ifconfig eth0?12:31
ciplogicendersshadow: for my knowledge reiser FS haven't names12:31
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nickrudbiovore, so have I, but I hope for better tools, like better window management12:31
mianiakENE|Toxic, yeh ff:ff....12:31
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biovorenickrud: don't we all :-P12:31
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: Line NickGarvey said, pastebin :)12:31
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NickGarveys/Line/Like/ ;)12:32
nickrud!!! unleash the devs !!!12:32
ubotunickrud: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:32
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haasteemhi, is there anybosy else using blackbox as window manager?12:32
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angelQUE ONDA12:32
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nickrud!es12:33
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:33
fiendskull9do you guys know of any good Python GUI IDE's?12:33
mianiakNickGarvey, ENE|Toxic  cant paste it i will hve to put it in a ile and transfer with my usb stick..12:33
Bilangehaasteem: i did in the past, but in windows though :/12:33
NickGarveymianiak: haha good point12:33
iudiciumBoa Constructor fiendskull912:33
NickGarveymianiak: um yeah if that wouldn't be to much of a hastle..12:33
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gnomefreakfiendskull9: eric12:33
NickGarveymianiak: do you have a cross over cable?12:33
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Sannefiendskull9, there are lots, I like eric (qt-based), also take a look at drpython.12:33
fiendskull9gnomefreak, is it GUI? and an ide12:33
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12:34
mianiakENE|Toxic, NickGarvey i gotta feed my daughter srry but i have to stop now, i will get back to it asap, thnx for help so far12:34
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: np12:34
fiendskull9ill try eruc12:34
NickGarveyENE|Toxic: well its just he doesn't have internet heh how can he pastebin it12:34
fiendskull9*eric12:34
gnomefreakfiendskull9: yes12:34
NickGarveymianiak: alright, good luck12:34
gnomefreakalso anjuta is good12:34
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ENE|ToxicNickGarvey: ooo now I get it haha :)12:34
fiendskull9it does python?12:34
gnomefreakbut iirc eric will only do python12:34
gnomefreakfiendskull9: yes anjuta does python12:34
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ciplogicendersshadow: the name is asigned in Volume name12:35
fiendskull9gnomefreak, oh, i thought it only did c and cpp, i have it.12:35
ciplogicWhen I choose property on the drive12:35
endersshadowciplogic: there's a bug filed about it in launchpad12:35
endersshadowciplogic: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/3086712:35
haasteembilange: ahhh, ok... i was having some font trouble12:35
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ciplogicendersshadow: Nope... it is good... is not like bug12:36
haasteemso i guess it is in fact more gtk related12:36
nickrudciplogic, rierserfstune --label  ?12:36
ciplogicnickrud12:36
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ciplogicNickrud: I try right now12:36
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nickrudciplogic, man rieserfstune for the details12:36
haasteemdoes gedit use gtk?12:37
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nickrudhaasteem, of course it does, it's gnome12:37
biovorehaasteem: I think it dose12:37
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redguyhaasteem: the g suggests so12:37
nicolas__ok, i just upgraded from sarge to breezy, everything worked almost without problems, except for the last step, which is apt-get install ubuntu-desktop12:37
haasteemright12:37
haasteemstupid question12:37
nicolas__broken deps with gaim, synaptic, python-apt etc12:37
rustlerharvwhat is gtk12:37
nickrudhaasteem, no, not a stupid question, just a brain fart :)12:37
redguynicolas__: erm12:37
haasteembut how come then that it does not listen to my setting in the gtkrc-2.0 file?12:37
nicolas__redguy: what?12:38
redguynicolas__: updated from sarge to breezy? since when sarge was an ubuntu release?12:38
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ciplogicI cannot umount partition :P12:38
nicolas__redguy: it is not12:38
gnomefreakredguy: sarge was never a ubuntu release12:39
redguynicolas__: you should say: I broke my sarge install when I was tryng to change my distro to ubuntu12:39
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nicolas__redguy: well, someone else did it on ubuntuforums, and so i did12:39
redguy!debian12:39
ubotuDebian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/12:39
nicolas__everything is working well12:39
gnomefreakredguy: sarge nad ubuntu dont use same packages there is no doubt it will break12:39
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nicolas__redguy: i dont think you have anything to teach me12:40
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nickrudnicolas__, were you the guy that said he was going from sarge to breezy when I came in today?12:40
nicolas__nickrud: yes12:40
juztinif i use an alternative wm, for instance blackbox, will the icon that notifies you of available updates still pop up when updates are available?12:40
NickGarveynicolas__: good luck12:40
endersshadowciplogic: the more i look into it, there doesn't seem to be an easy way to change volume labels, but there are people working on it...i'm sorry12:40
nicolas__NickGarvey: its done12:40
redguynicolas__: hmm, I thing dpkg's ubuntu factoid is more clear on that12:40
nickrudnicolas__, I commented cuz I know it's a difficult road, you will have serious issues.12:40
toby_justin: no12:40
haasteemnickrud: it looks like the rest e..g x-chat, gimp, etc. run ok, but not gedit, the update manager.. it is rather strange12:40
Bilangeabotu xfce4: does apt-get install xfce as the default window manager when installing packages, or some tuneup is required?12:40
biovorenicolas__: I done a sarge to brezzy dist-upgrade as well12:41
nicolas__nickrud: not too much12:41
juztinbummer :/12:41
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nicolas__just a couple dpkg segfaults ;P12:41
toby_you can do an apt-get something or other as a cron job12:41
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|austin|quick question: I have a 5 gig partition which just became free.  is this big enough for a ubuntu install with gnome?12:41
redguynicolas__: I doubt that you will learn anything usefull other than debian != ubuntu12:41
kbrooks|austin|: ubuntu requires min 1 gb12:41
|austin|awesome12:42
toby_fluxbox is nice12:42
|austin|does that include gnome?12:42
_jason|austin|: it's big enough with and without gnome (~1.8 is min for gnome included)12:42
Bilangeaustin: yes, 2 and more gb is required to install it, after the installation 1.5 gig is really used12:42
nicolas__redguy: almost12:42
nickrudhaasteem, I've fought that, and gave up. I stick with the tools for themes, and maybe alter a theme slightly here and there12:42
rustlerharvi tinhk i used 4 for everything12:42
nicolas__biovore: had any problem with installing ubuntu-desktop ?12:42
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redguynicolas__: but maybe you could educate me: what's the point in such an "upgrade" ?12:42
biovorenicolas__: I didn't have any problems with it here12:42
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haasteemnickrud: ok. i do not really want to use gnome-font properties, i am using blackbox (without a desktop manager)... and if i did run gnome-font-properties other unecessary gnome stuff is loaded...12:42
ciplogicreisertune works... but no effect :)12:43
nickrudnicolas__, 'just a dpkg segfault *cough*(12:43
nicolas__redguy: prevent data loss while preventing data backup when changing distro12:43
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rustlerharv|austin|:  right now im using 3.4 gigs12:43
nicolas__and also12:43
endersshadowsorry :(12:43
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nickrudhaasteem, I've never used blackbox, so I don't have much to offer12:43
nicolas__i saved almost 30 minute12:43
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slavikI got dapper working :D12:44
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slavikno wifi yet12:44
ciplogicThe name change from C in + even I choose as label: test12:44
netgeek60Is the Dapper beta worth taking for a spin? <relatively stable?>12:45
redguynicolas__: there are at least several way better ways of acheiveing the goal you described12:45
rustlerharv netgeek60 yes12:45
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rustlerharvi havent had any problems12:45
nickrudnetgeek60, if you're comfortable with the tools provided to fix problems, yes. Otherwise I'd suggest waiting.12:45
nicolas__redguy: did i told you it went almost perfectly ?12:46
Sannehaasteem, there's lightweight the gtk-theme-switch utility to control some of the gnome/gtk appearance when you haven't installed a full Gnome.12:46
nicolas__in less than 20 min12:46
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gn0m3hi12:46
gn0m3can anyone help me with the gaim messenger12:46
nicolas__!upgrade12:46
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .12:46
netgeek60Cool... i don't mind fixing problems as long as there are only a few now & then.12:46
rustlerharvgn0m3: whats up12:47
gn0m3how do u add pictures to your profile?12:47
gn0m3it gives u the option12:47
rustlerharvi tinhk thats your buddy icon12:47
redguynicolas__: "broken deps with gaim, synaptic, python-apt etc" <-- you call this "almost perfect"12:47
gn0m3but is there a specific format or a specific size?12:47
ciplogicgn0m3: you have in account property12:47
gn0m3i know but it did not allow me12:47
matth-wnickrud, hey did you ever find anything about the cd-r?12:47
gn0m3i added the pic but nothing came up12:47
redguynicolas__: I call it "broken system"12:47
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redguynicolas__: a amtter of perspective12:48
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kbrooksOK12:48
kbrooksi have this idea12:48
_Dezhow do i mount a usb drive in terminal12:48
rustlerharvwhat messenger are you using12:48
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kbrooksi think12:48
haasteemSanne: i know that one, it has no effect unfortunately...12:48
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kbrooks...12:48
rustlerharvaim msn etc12:48
nickrudmatth-w, your issue scrolled out of my xchat window, what was it again?12:48
gn0m3im using aim12:49
gn0m3but its gaim here12:49
haasteemSanne: by the way, i do have a full gnome installed12:49
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codecaineanybody using gaim2?12:49
Milk_ello12:49
matth-wOh, I need mp3 plugin's to burn with serpentine or gnomebaker12:49
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moparfan90hi everyone/......... how do i give write access for everyone for    /usr/games12:49
moparfan90?12:49
rustlerharvcodecaine: i am12:49
nickrudmatth-w, ah12:49
codecaineis it real nice does it have webcam?12:49
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rustlerharvmy only problem is i have to run it as root12:49
moparfan90.. in a terminal12:49
Sannehaasteem, it hasn't? It should... oh, if you have gnome, then you could run the gnome theme manager from the command line.12:49
Milk_I'm having issues getting any software to recognise my joystick.. any sugestions on where I can edit a config file or otherwise get this setup correctly?12:49
__nev__moparfan90: chmod 1777 /usr/games12:49
rustlerharvno web cam12:49
biovoregaim2 is in beta 312:49
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moparfan90ok12:49
moparfan90thanks12:49
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sb_salve12:49
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redguymoparfan90: what for?12:49
diomedesso whats with ubuntu install not asking for a root password? and assuming i want to use dhcp?12:49
codecaineoh nothing really new12:50
nickrudmatth-w, I answered up on that one thinking it was ripping, not writing. I've never written a music cd in my life :)12:50
sb_oh merda12:50
nxvlhi12:50
sb_hi12:50
redguy!tell diomedes about root12:50
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sb_i have Dapper Drake12:50
Milk_diomedes, thats the default, its meant to make install easy and safe12:50
haasteemSanne: yeah.... gnome theme manager does not invoke other gnome stuff?12:50
sb_what i use to see a divx?12:50
sethkdiomedes, it asks for a root password in expert mode12:50
matth-wnickrud, never burned a audio cd?12:50
_Dezhow do i mount a usb drive in terminal12:50
biovoresb_: xine or mplayer will do it12:50
sethkdiomedes, and the dhcp assumption isn't unreasonable for a default12:50
redguydiomedes: if you want to have more controll on what is actually done during the install do an expert install12:50
sb_but i haven't a codec12:50
rustlerharvsb_: totem will do it12:51
ciplogicnickrud: I have write with a soft crayon and say the content of it ;)12:51
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biovoresb_: google for divx4linux12:51
sb_ok12:51
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biovoreor divx5linux12:51
redguy!tell sb_ about restricted12:51
diomedesgrr, linux is becoming windows12:51
rustlerharvyou nmeed to install the good bad and ugly pcks12:51
nickrudmatth-w, only once, I just put a bunch of mp3's on a data cd, which my dvd player recognized. That was for fun, and never repeaed12:51
ciplogicnickrud: do you know how to change the volume in GNOME?12:51
Milk_diomedes, why do you say that?12:51
matth-wokay12:51
diomedesos aren't meant to think for you12:51
Sannehaasteem, well, it will load the libraries it needs to run, as would for example gimp or firefox or openoffice, if you run them.12:51
nxvli want to install ubuntu but i haven't a CD-drive or a Floppy12:51
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nickrudciplogic, no, I'd look at that bug report someone pointed you at12:51
s|k!dapper12:51
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)12:51
Milk_diomedes, so defaulting to static IP and defaulting asking for a default root is not thinking for you?12:52
redguydiomedes: sorry, I must have missed the expert mode in the Windows setup12:52
nxvlis there any way to install it throu the net?12:52
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ciplogicnickrud: the bug say that: should display the volume info but displays the names of the drive12:52
sethkdiomedes, not really.  you want expert mode behavior, install in expert mode12:52
ciplogicTo me display correctly the volume info12:52
steelwhat were the commands to see who's in the FTP server? for proftpd?12:52
redguydiomedes: if you like to think for the os try slackware12:52
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__nev__steel: ftpwho12:52
steelthanks12:53
ciplogicAnd that bug doesn't apply to me... the bad part is that the drive name is really wrong12:53
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ciplogicMy question is how to change it12:53
codecaineanybody have file sharing problems with windows on ubuntu using samba?12:53
ciplogicI have nothing with name, only my question is how to change ;)12:53
diomedesmilk did i say default to anything? no i said ask, ie static or dhcp12:53
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redguydiomedes: aor lfs even12:53
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Milk_codecaine, its all about setup, what problem are you having?12:53
rustlerharvdoesnt nautilis do file sharing12:53
nickrudciplogic, if using reiserfstune --label doesn't show the correct name in gnome but will on the command line, that's a bug to be filed12:53
redguycodecaine: no, what is your problem?12:53
haasteemSanne: ok, i will give it a try, thanks12:53
matth-wWell is there someone that might help me, I'm needing plugin's for my serpentine to burn a audio-cd from mp3's12:54
Sannehaasteem, you're welcome12:54
nickrudciplogic, I haven't used rieserfs under ubuntu so I'm not up on the latest12:54
diomedesredguy this install is for my wife, i use solaris.. its just sad that the defaults for linux are now dumbed down12:54
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ciplogicnickrud: changing to xfs may fix that things?12:54
mianiakNickGarvey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1290612:54
sethkdiomedes, that's not true.  the defaults for ubuntu are dumbed down12:54
codecaineI click on share folder under system then choose a external hd I want to share give it an name as a windows file server but when I try to open it up in windows theres no folder showing12:54
nickrudciplogic, what's wrong with ext3?12:54
sethkdiomedes, use slackware12:54
diomedesare native debian and slackware the only old school distros12:54
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sethkdiomedes, no, but of the majors possibly12:55
jmgdiomedes no there are others that predate and have died out12:55
sethkdiomedes, there are a slew of distros now12:55
jmgyggrdasil12:55
ciplogicnickrud: I heard that may remain corrupt the transaction log on a power break12:55
NickGarveymianiak: whoa is that messed up12:55
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ciplogicnickrud: reiserfs haven't that problem12:55
mianiakheh12:55
codecaine?12:55
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nickrudciplogic, heh. I have totally useless power here, and never had that issue.12:55
sethkciplogic, reiserfs has many many other problems, though12:55
NickGarveymianiak: show that to someone smarter than me I have no idea at all..12:55
spoonsI'm having trouble installing Blender 3D 2.41, I could only get blender 2.37 from the repositories, so I found a copy that was supposed to be packed for Ubuntu. when I try to install it with this command "dpkg -i blender_2.41-1ubuntu4_i386.deb" I get dependancy errors.12:55
spoons blender: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2) but 1:4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed           Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.2-4) but 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed12:55
diomedesa slew isn't really a good thing, they all just try to be dumber then the other so the pc mag reader uses their version12:55
sethkciplogic, ext3 is really quite stable, and doesn't claim to be totally bullet proof12:55
redguydiomedes: Note that ubuntu is mostly a desktop distro and dhcp is what most desktop users want. The install should be simple to attract more users from the Windows world, don't you agree?12:56
NickGarveyspoons: then get the dependancies :)12:56
mianiakNickGarvey, ok , i post it int he forum, thanx for your help12:56
diomedeswhat happened to unix being selective about its friends12:56
Milk_diomedes, whats the difference, use expert or fix it afterwards12:56
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nickrudciplogic, I rebooted on power failure in probably 10 times in a month before buying a ups, and never lost data12:56
spoonsNickGarvey how do I do that?12:56
NickGarveymianiak: :)12:56
sethkdiomedes, you have the behavior you want.  why bitch because it isn't the default?12:56
Milk_codecaine, you need to setup samaba users for the user12:56
NickGarveyspoons: apt-get what it says, libgcc1 or smotheing12:56
kingspawndiomedes: chill out, install Arch Linux from archlinux.org12:56
spoonsNickGarvey that just gives me the same errors.12:56
codecainefor windows user name12:56
NickGarveyspoons: exact same? like it depends on itself?12:57
Milk_codecaine, yes12:57
spoonsNick, it gives me the blender error12:57
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Sannespoons, I always use the blender from blender.org and install it manually in /usr/local/<whereveryouwant>.12:57
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spoonsSanne do you not need these dependancies that way?12:58
zanthgood day12:58
Milk_diomedes, if your looking for a completely configurable, highly selctive distro, try standard debian or slackware, but don't fault ubuntu for being EXACTLY what it advertises12:58
ciplogicnickrud: I backup the partition and I will format as EXT3 :)12:58
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redguydiomedes: so you say that linux and/or unix should be only for "the chosen ones", right? Or do you expect that every computer user knows about IP configuration?12:58
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noaxispointI have looked online for this; is there a way to make the gdm route the X session to a remote X server already started?  The other machine would have a static IP address.12:58
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ciplogicnickrud: I believe you... I was only affraid of that side...12:58
zanthI was wondering if there was anything like kxdocker for gnome?12:58
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sethkredguy, not only that, but it has a mode that does exactly what he wants.  He's just bitching because it isn't the default.  That's not reasonable at all.12:58
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Sannespoons, no, I don't have those problems on Breezy. But there's one: you would need to get blender for python2.3 and also install python2.3 from apt (if you want to use that), because breezy's python2.4 isn't compatible with blender/python2.312:59
kingspawnthe os wars are getting old. no need.12:59
_jim_hey guys , can anyone help me ? ubuntu cant see my other Fat32 partitions12:59
NickGarveyI'd use !wars but I had to delete it (cough)12:59
sethk_jim_, why do you think that?12:59
diomedesredguy if they dont know about ip config then i highly doubt *nix is the os for them12:59
kingspawnNickGarvey: heh12:59
nickrudms1.2!!12:59
_jim_i cant see my other partitions12:59
rustlerharv_jim_: is it your fstab01:00
Milk_diomedes, your a bit of a windows user then?01:00
_jim_whats fstab ?01:00
sethk_jim_, did the partitions exist when you installed ubuntu?01:00
kingspawnMilk_: let it go, man01:00
codecaineuser under security? in the smb.conf?01:00
_jim_no seth01:00
Milk_kingspawn, but but but01:00
_jim_they was RAW01:00
sethk_jim_, that's the reason01:00
_jim_so01:00
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sethk_jim_, you'll have to add them manually now01:00
_jim_is there a reason to fix that ?01:00
redguydiomedes: right, let that herd stick in the Windows world, so that we, the True Computer Users can have the power of unix just to ourselves01:00
Milk_codecaine, in the smb.conf... well... kinda01:00
nalioth!offtopic01:00
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!01:00
_jim_ah yeh :D01:00
nickrud_jim_, it's actually the file /etc/fstab , it's the definition of where disk partitions are mounted in the unified file system01:00
rustlerharvyou need to add lines to fstab01:00
nicolas__ok i fixed all those broken packages, due to my usage of debian backports, everything would have go really well, from a fresh sarge to breezy, this is nothing risky01:00
sethk_jim_, a reason?  the reason is that you want to see the partitions01:01
Sannespoons, I hope I wasn't too confusing...01:01
Milk_codecaine, check out the samba docs for adding a user01:01
Milk_codecaine, let me see if I can find a link01:01
_jim_sorry mistake01:01
sethk_jim_, it is easy to do, you simply have to edit /etc/fstab, as several have started to tell you01:01
_jim_so01:01
_jim_i open fstab in etc ?01:01
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baconbacon!mount01:01
ubotuit has been said that mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f01:01
sethk_jim_, yes, with an editor01:01
rustlerharvsudo gedit01:01
nickrud_jim_, read the ubotu link that baconbacon so kindly provided01:01
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sethk_jim_, rustlerharv 's was for you01:01
diomedesredguy no its horses for courses,  look at the lashing lindows/linspire got when if came out01:02
_jim_wow01:02
Milk_codecaine, http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2002-May/043748.html01:02
nickrud!mountwindows01:02
ubotuDownload and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions01:02
_jim_so much support in here lol thanks alot guys !01:02
_jim_ubuntu rox :D01:02
nickrud_jim_, check out the ubotu one just above as well01:02
naliothdiomedes: redguy: distro discussion can take place happily in #ubuntu-offtopic01:02
diomedessorry if i feel someone should know something about an os that can be used to be harmful to others if not looked after correctly01:02
_jim_alright01:02
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redguysorry nalioth01:02
baconbaconi glance once in a while to type !something and im praised for it :)01:02
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amphidiomedes: dos can be used to be harmful to others ;)01:03
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dyloniumhey01:04
rustlerharv_jim_: the little life peserve has alot of this stuff in it01:04
ciplogicamphi: MS distros may be on #ubuntu-offtopic :P01:04
amphiciplogic: ack01:04
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_jim_hey guys01:05
_jim_i dont know the hda0 / 1 things01:05
dyloniumDoes anyone know how to boot on GRUB if its on an external HDD?01:05
_jim_and i cant access System/Disks01:05
dyloniumit messed up my whole computer01:05
baconbaconhda is first hard disk, hdb first slave, hdc second master..01:05
sethkdylonium, your BIOS has to support it01:05
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Milk_dylonium, thats dependent on your bios01:05
sethkdylonium, and most don't01:05
dyloniumit does01:06
codecaineso you have to set a password for a user :/01:06
dyloniumhuh?01:06
rustlerharv_jim_: hda is your master hdd 1 is the first partition on it01:06
Milk_codecaine, you have to have the same user on both systems with the same smbpassword01:06
amphi_jim_: hda is the first disk on the first controller, hda1 the first parttion on that disk, hda2 the second, etc.01:06
dyloniumi already screwed my comp. up, im running on a live version01:06
dyloniumhow can i get back on windows01:06
sethkdylonium, you can install grub on the MBR of the internal disk and have it boot from the external01:06
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baconbaconhda1-2-3-4 are 1st,2nd,... primary partitions01:06
dyloniumwhen i boot, it immidiately gets a gruub error01:06
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sethkdylonium, what's the error?01:06
rustlerharvi love how 20 ppl answer the same ?01:06
dyloniumhold on one sec01:06
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baconbaconhda5-6-7-8-... are logical partitions01:06
kingspawndylonium: have you still got the original partition?01:06
NickGarveyhow do you make cat continue to dump a file?  like a log for example01:07
kingspawndylonium: windows, that is01:07
Milk_rustlerharv, its called good service01:07
sethkrustlerharv, you want one right answer and 19 wrong ones?  :)01:07
kingspawnNickGarvey: doesnt tail have some kind of option?01:07
amphiNickGarvey: tail -f perhaps01:07
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SanneNickGarvey, I don't use cat, I use: tail -f <filename>01:07
dyloniumyes i do01:07
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kingspawnthats it01:07
rustlerharvat least you nkow its right01:07
dyloniumi do have the original pertition01:07
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Milk_rustlerharv, yep01:07
dyloniumpar*01:07
NickGarveyyeah I was thinking of tail, just wondering if cat had it too, alright though thank you01:07
Milk_codecaine, did that help?01:07
dyloniumbut i heard i have to use the recover disk in order to recover the MBR01:08
sethkdylonium, if you mean you have the original MBR, you can restore it01:08
dyloniumbut i lost it, and it doesnt work01:08
codecainekinda but on windows I do use passwords for file sharing01:08
sethkdylonium, no, not true01:08
dyloniumi do ahve it01:08
dyloniumbut how?01:08
codecaineI have a password to login to windows01:08
sethkdylonium, dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=101:08
dyloniumGrub Loading stage 1.5.01:08
dyloniumError 21 ----thats the error btw01:08
Milk_codecaine, good, but you need the same user and password on linux01:08
baconbacon_jim_ you can use fdisk /dev/hda (command line) or disk manager in system menu to check partitions01:08
dyloniumdylonium, dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 *whats that?*01:08
kingspawndylonium: you can boot the windows cd and use fixmbr utility in rescue mode, if you just need to get back your windows mbr01:09
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Milk_you know.. I asked a question when i came in. and I have no idea if it got answered01:09
Milk_hahaah01:09
sethkdylonium, that's how to restore the mbr01:09
sethkdylonium, which is what you asked01:09
Milk_Anyone here using a Joystick and maybe.. gl-11701:09
_jim_i mounted01:09
dyloniumso how do i do it01:09
_jim_should i reboot now ?01:09
dyloniumwhere do i type what u jsut gave me?01:09
dyloniumthat *dylonium, dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1*01:09
sethk_jim_, no01:09
rustlerharv_jim_: yes01:09
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_jim_lol01:09
sethk_jim_, rebooting for what reason?01:09
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_jim_to see them01:09
_jim_i got no confirmation01:10
sethk_jim_, just do mount -a01:10
rustlerharvyou can reboot or mount manually01:10
_jim_and dont see them01:10
dyloniumhello?01:10
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phoulExcuse me01:10
dyloniumwhere do i type *dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1*01:10
NickGarveyphoul: excused01:10
alex_hola01:10
sethkdylonium, at a command prompt.  where do you type anything?01:10
phoulIm looking for the latest dapper and such and somone just told me that this list: http://members.shaw.ca/darkcloud54/sources.list isnt the one to use01:10
phoulI was sure it was01:10
dyloniumwhere can i get a command prompt01:10
_jim_mount -a dont do anything too01:10
dyloniumthats my problem01:10
nickrudsethk, what's filename?01:10
NickGarvey!tell phoul about dapper01:10
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dyloniumwhere?01:11
ciplogicnickrud: I have clean up the partition, I format it as ext3 and no success :(01:11
phoulUmm could somone just check that list out tho01:11
rustlerharv_jim_: i reboot01:11
sethknickrud, I'm not sure, what'a file?01:11
phoulbecause im running dapper01:11
_jim_hey guys01:11
diomedesso back ontopic there an easy kde install for ubuntu?01:11
christianpiperjoin #blenderQA01:11
nickrudciplogic, ok, and arg, sethk :)01:11
_jim_when i do sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t vfat -o umask=00001:11
_jim_i get a confirmation ?01:11
dyloniumhello?01:11
dyloniumwhere can i get a command prompt to type dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=101:11
baconbacondiomedes: ubuntu with KDE is kubuntu, check #kubuntu01:12
sethk_jim_, I'm not sure what you mean by a confirmation, but probably not, no01:12
nickrudciplogic, what exactly are you trying to do? Last we talked, I thought you simply wanted to label your reiser partition01:12
_jim_alright01:12
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sethk_jim_, you can do  ls /media/windows and you'll see files01:12
rustlerharv_jim_: you should get an error or see the drie were you told it to go01:12
phoulanyone here who can see it01:12
dyloniumseth???01:12
baconbacondiomedes: but if you want kde and already have ubuntu installed, you can install the package kubuntu-desktop01:12
dyloniumcan you see my typing?01:12
baconbaconno01:12
blindnope.01:12
kingspawndiomedes: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, i believe.01:13
dyloniumall joking aside01:13
nickrudciplogic, ?01:13
dyloniumsomeone help me out please01:13
ciplogicnickrud: the partition is /dev/hda1 mounted to /media/C an ex-FAT32 partition and as name is seen in GNOME as "+ \n //End; "01:13
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dyloniumwhere can i get a command prompt01:13
dyloniumto type *dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1*01:13
NickGarveydylonium: I see your typing, applictions > terminal01:13
sethkdylonium, sorry, I have to handle work stuff at the moment01:13
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ciplogicnickrud: And is anoying at least because use 2 lines in places, and everywhere01:13
NickGarveydylonium: wait.. of01:13
blindapplications >accessories terminal01:13
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rustlerharvdylonium: apps01:13
dyloniumhuh?01:13
NickGarveyhaha sorry, no gui01:13
dyloniumso just go to terminakl and paste dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=101:13
deepakhello01:13
dyloniumand it should make my MBR recover?01:14
nickrudciplogic, ok. You have a partition that's /hda1 , it's a fat32, and it has a totally useless label name. You want to change it to something useful ?01:14
blindyes dylonium01:14
dyloniumTHANKS SO MUCH01:14
ciplogicnickrud: was fat3201:14
dyloniumill be back in shortly01:14
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nickrudciplogic, was fat32, is now?01:14
dyloniumcan i set this irc chat as a favorite?01:14
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ciplogicnickrud: now ext3 :P01:14
ciplogicnickrud: was until some moments ReiserFS01:14
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_jim_k ill go rebooting now01:15
_jim_brb01:15
dyloniumill be back possibly01:15
dyloniumpray for me-- hah01:15
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ciplogicnickrud: every case mounted well, I know how to edit fstab,etc. only has a bad label :((01:15
nickrudciplogic, if it's an ext3 partition, do:   sudo e2label /dev/hda1 <name you want>01:15
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ciplogicshould I logoff from gnome?01:16
linxehI'm having a problem with my SD/MMC card reader - [4490680.628000]  generic_make_request: Trying to access nonexistent block-device mmcblk0 (0). I have tried mknod to create the device (even though there was a device there already) and it still isn't working. Any ideas?01:16
ciplogicnickrud: no effect :(01:16
ciplogicI umount and mount again :(01:16
nickrudciplogic, no, you can do that from a terminal from inside gnome01:16
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ciplogicI've done that01:17
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biovorehttp://packages.ubuntu.com/  good for looking up package depencies01:17
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Seewaiis it possible to change the xorg bit depth on the fly?01:17
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Seewaidoes anyone know01:17
dyloniumit didnt work people01:17
dylonium*dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1*01:17
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ciplogicseewai: nope... xrandr can change refresh and resolution01:18
dyloniumit said, dd: opening `filename': No such file or directory01:18
blindwhat error did it give you, dylonium ?01:18
jarleHow do I install a .deb file that I have already downloaded to my HD? (Opera)01:18
Seewaibut it's not possible to change the bit depth?01:18
rustlerharvSeewai: idk if anything you would have to reboot x01:18
Hobbsee!tell jarle about deb01:18
JowiSeewai: not possible. i can change resolutions though and refresh rate01:18
nickrudciplogic that works here01:18
blindno no, you have to put an actual filename01:18
dyloniumwhats that mean?01:18
Seewainuts01:18
biovoreSeewai: hit ctrl alt + a few times..  if xorg is setup right you will flip though different modes and res01:18
dyloniumwhat filename01:18
dyloniummbr?01:18
kingspawndylonium: filename is just the filename of the mbr you said you had saved01:18
dyloniumi dont know the actual directory01:18
nickrudciplogic, on my mounted home partition (the things I try for people here :)01:18
ciplogicnickrud: life is anfair :)01:18
dyloniumanyone know of the mbr extension for windows?01:19
ciplogic*unfair01:19
Seewaioh well01:19
dyloniumdo you guys get paid to help out?01:19
Hobbseeno01:19
nickruddylonium, I get plenty of razzies, I live on them :)01:19
biovoreno01:19
dyloniumjust makes u guys better right?01:19
redguyno01:19
Seewaicheers anyways01:19
kingspawnwe get paid in smiles01:19
kingspawn(/cheese)01:19
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dyloniumwait, so anyone know the filename i can try?01:19
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blinddylonium, you have to use the filename of the mbr01:20
redguydylonium: did you do a backup of your mbr with dd earlier?01:20
biovoredylonium: mbr extention?01:20
kingspawndylonium: did you specifically do "dd if=/dev/hda of=file bs=512 count=1" at one time?01:20
dyloniumyes01:20
kingspawndylonium: what did you call the file?01:20
dyloniumidk about a backup01:20
niocinhey when i type mkdir /media/partitionname01:20
dyloniumi still have it tho01:20
niocinit says "access denied01:20
dyloniumits just GRUB tries to override it on the boot01:20
kingspawnniocin: sudo01:20
blindsudo, niocin01:20
dyloniumso do you know where i can find this file?01:20
kingspawndylonium: grub cant override this one, if youve got it01:21
kingspawndylonium: where did you save it? thats the question.01:21
niocinso type sudo mkdir /media/pat01:21
redguyniocin: is it by any chance a windows partition?01:21
dyloniummy internal hdd01:21
dyloniumand i partitioned my ex hdd01:21
niocinyeah redguy01:21
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blindyes niocin01:21
dyloniumand then it tries to load grub, btu its on the ex and it tries to read the internal one01:21
redguy!tell niocin about ntfs01:21
dyloniumand then my comoputer gets stuck01:21
nickruddylonium, people hang out here to help for a lot of reason, but every single one of us does it for one reason: we want your os to work01:21
dyloniumnice01:22
blinddiskmounter for ntfs. can't beat it in ease and quickness......01:22
dyloniumget what im saying?01:22
kingspawndylonium: you put the mbr on your external hd?01:22
dyloniumno, its on my internal hdd01:22
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redguyniocin: read the wiki link ubotu sent you01:22
niocinthank you01:22
redguyniocin: if it's NTFS then write access is not supported01:22
dyloniumi have to go eaty, ill be back in 5min01:23
ciplogicnickrud: how do I choose to reconfigure GNOME and reget the all configs?01:23
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dyloniumeat*01:23
ciplogicnickrud: I believe that is a problem of GNOME01:23
dyloniumplease stay ehre, give me 10 minutes01:23
dyloniumthanks!01:23
nickrudciplogic, you mean, reset your desktop to as if you have just started from scratch?01:23
amphiniocin: you might want to check out 'captive ntfs'01:23
ciplogicnickrud: yes01:23
moparfan90im trying to lunch boot-up manager and i get this error "Failed to run bum as user root:01:23
moparfan90 Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file"     what do i do??01:23
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ciplogicI use GNOME01:23
ciplogicand as metapackage: ubuntu-desktop01:24
amphiciplogic: shh ;)01:24
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nickrudciplogic, rm -r .gconf/* .gconfd/* .gnome/* .gnome2/*01:24
_jim_hey guys01:24
_jim_i made the dir /media/windows01:24
_jim_but when im trying to mount first the ntfs01:24
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_jim_it says      mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist01:25
ciplogicI log off and I will relogin01:25
julienhello01:25
rustlerharvif its ntfs you need differnt options in fstab01:25
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amphi_jim_: what does ls -l /dev/hda1 show?01:25
codecaineI have samba installed I don't see smbadduser anywhere01:26
_jim_root@10:~# ls -l /dev/hda101:26
_jim_ls: /dev/hda1: No such file or directory01:26
amphi_jim_: how did you do that? ;)01:26
rustlerharvit shoulden if it didnt mount it01:26
_jim_so , what i should do ?01:27
rustlerharv_jim_: is hda 1 ntfs or fat01:27
_jim_ntfs01:27
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rustlerharvdid you put the same lines in fstab as the fat01:27
niocinokay i did the diskmounter thing and it says no available partitions01:27
_jim_no01:27
_jim_its different01:27
rustlerharvwhat did you put01:27
amphi_jim_: it seems you lack the file in /dev for some reason01:28
NickGarvey_jim_: which is bad01:28
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niocinredguy: i type sudo fdisk -l it gives me my 200gb external, like it lists it there, but i cant access it anywehre, or am i just blind?01:28
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_jim_surt01:28
NickGarvey_jim_: because even if there is nothing there.. /dev/hda10 should still be there01:28
ciplogicI hate my drive C :)01:28
NickGarveywel 901:28
_jim_rustlerharv, i typed something different before for fat01:28
kingspawnniocin: what does the fdisk -l output? pastebin it01:28
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NickGarveyoh wait01:29
NickGarveymaybe not.01:29
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niocinkingspawn: pastebin?01:29
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kingspawn!pastebin01:29
niocinkingspawn: oh i didnt that earlier01:29
ubotupastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126901:29
redguyniocin: sorry, cant help you, got to go01:29
rustlerharvthe option is differnt too01:29
Bog_is there an ubuntu virtual machine?01:29
rustlerharv_jim_: i tihnk its umask=002 for ntfs01:30
crimsunfor version 5.10, yes, Bog_.01:30
_jim_oo01:30
niocinkingspawn: i mean i did that earlier01:30
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Bog_crim: where would I download it?01:30
crimsun_jim_: 022.01:30
_jim_in FAQ it says 022201:30
rustlerharvlook it up cuz thats off mory01:30
kingspawnniocin: oh, I didnt know that01:30
crimsunBog_: from vmware's Web site01:30
Bog_crim: I dont mean the player, I mean a pre-installed ubuntu image01:31
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_jim_still the same about special device dont exist01:31
ciplogicI will remove gtk and I will reinstall metapackage Ubuntu-dekstop and will reconfigure the drives01:31
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amphi_jim_: you can recreate the device file (if you need to) by doing 'cd dev; sudo mknod -m 660 hda1 b 3 1 && sudo chgrp disk hda1'01:31
niocinkingspawn: are you looking at my pastebin? or what. I'm new to this.01:31
rustlerharv_jim_: 0222 is right01:32
amphi_jim_: make that 'cd /dev' above, sorry01:32
_jim_guys , i tried to mount fat and it saying same thing : mount: special device /dev/hda2 does not exist01:32
amphi_jim_: note the leading slash01:32
kingspawnniocin: I dont know where your pastebin is01:32
kingspawnniocin: I would need the url01:33
_jim_im in /dev01:33
produkt_what's libdb-4.2.so and how do I get it?01:33
nickrud_jim_, sudo fdisk -l will tell you about your available partitions, does hda2 appear?01:33
amphi_jim_: ok - no hda? files at all?01:33
Siviki need some help with some wireless drivers01:33
ciplogic_jim_ : use sudo fdisk /dev/hda01:33
_jim_Ooo01:33
niocinkingspawn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1290301:33
_jim_with fdisk -l i see many things01:33
ciplogic_jim_: if starts means that you have hda01:33
_jim_non of them is HDA01:33
_jim_every is SDA01:33
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amphi_jim_: arrgh01:34
ciplogic_jim_ : pressing P will show the partition list01:34
nickrud_jim_, ah01:34
kingspawnniocin: okay, is the 200gb drive the one you want to interact with?01:34
niocinkingspawn: yeah and i have ubuntu installed on the 3001:34
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_jim_is it bad ?01:34
nickrudluckily (for me) I know nothing about sda stuff, I get to bow out01:34
ciplogic_jim_: SDA is for SATA/RAID drives01:35
rustlerharvive never heard of sda01:35
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ciplogicin rest works as HDA drives01:35
_jim_so01:35
kingspawnniocin: okay. problem is that there are no valid partitions recognized on that disk. what kind of filesystem have you got on it?01:35
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amphirustlerharv: first scsi device01:35
_jim_i can mount them too , right ?01:35
Jowihow do I export display :0 in tightvncserver?01:35
_jim_i got sata01:35
niocinkingspawn: its a fat16 i believe01:35
_jim_so i just change the letter H with S and try ?01:35
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niocinkingspawn: or is that not what your asking haha01:36
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ciplogic_jim_: to mount a /dev/sda1 like vfat you may use that command: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -fs vfat01:36
kingspawnniocin: yes, thats what i am asking. if you do sudo cfdisk /dev/hdd, and choose print, what does it output?01:36
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ciplogicyou should have created a folder named: /media/sda101:37
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bobbydhi01:37
dyloniumim back01:37
NickGarveyhello01:37
ciplogicSoon my Linux will quit :)01:37
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dyloniumwait, so where is the MBR located for windows?01:38
bobbydi want to add: "export PATH=$PATH:$PSPDEV/bin/" every time I log in, where should I put that so every shell I open has that set? .bashrc?01:38
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kingspawndylonium: I am telling you, this really does depend on where you saved that file01:38
niocinkingspawn: raw - sectors - table - cancle01:38
kingspawnbobbyd: /etc/login.defs01:38
dyloniumthe default place01:38
dyloniumfor windows01:38
bobbydkingspawn, thanks01:38
kingspawnniocin: no info about partitions at all?01:38
dyloniumshould it be like C:/WINDOWS/filename01:38
bobbydkingspawn, but I just want it for my user, not everyone...01:38
_jim_do i need to mount my ntfs primary boot sda1 ?01:39
nickruddylonium, the mbr is on the very beginning of a device: far more often than not on the first hard drive on the first socket on the mother board01:39
kingspawndylonium: there is no default place. the MBR is 512 bytes at the beginning of your disk telling grub/windows where to boot01:39
_jim_its already in desktop but i cant access it01:39
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niocinkingspawn: yeah like name: hdd1 ---part type : primary---FS type: FAT1601:39
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txoinaswenas gente01:39
txoinasalgun espaol ?01:39
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nickrud!es01:39
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:39
kingspawnniocin: now we're talking01:39
dyloniumhow can i fix my problem then?01:39
niocinkingspawn haha01:39
moparfan90hello... im running xubuntu and downloaded a theme... how do i extract it?01:39
dyloniumi was told i have to get my recovery disk and go into the recover mode and type: fix mbr01:39
kingspawnniocin: okay, out of cfdisk, and: sudo mkdir /media/hdd101:39
Sivikanyone use the drivers for the bcm43xx wireless cards?01:40
NickGarveySivik: pick me pick me01:40
kingspawndylonium: not "fix mbr" but "fixmbr"01:40
NickGarvey!bcm43xx01:40
ubotuTo use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.01:40
nickrud!bcm43xx01:40
NickGarveyI win01:40
nickrudheh01:40
dyloniumyes01:40
niocinkingspawn: okay01:40
txoinasi try, sudo apt-get install etherboot but not install, how install it01:40
kingspawnniocin: done that?01:40
niocinkingspawn: yep01:40
dyloniumbut how can i do this in a shorter form?01:40
dyloniumcause i cant get into my CD01:40
dyloniumit needs a pw01:40
dyloniumand i dotn ahve itm, and its not my windows default username01:40
dyloniumand troubleshooting ideas?01:41
linxehis there any way I can manually remove an entry from the installed package list ?01:41
kingspawnniocin: now: sudo mount -t msdos /dev/hdd1 /media/hdd101:41
Sivikthat url doesn't exsit01:41
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niocinkingspawn: okay, and it didnt say anything after, was it supposed to?01:41
NickGarveySivik: oh that sucks, let me check it01:41
codecaineI did smbpasswd -a codecaine then enter the password twice same password I use on window and linux and user name but still can't see the shared folder on winxp pro01:41
niocinkingspawn: OMG IT WORKED01:41
niocinkingspawn: i love you01:41
nickruddylonium, if you were trying to get an mbr that booted linux, you'd probably get lots of help here, for fixing windows ?01:41
niocinkingspawn: haha01:41
kingspawnniocin: :)01:41
NickGarveySivik: yes it does..01:41
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kingspawnniocin: lets get married ;)01:41
NickGarveySivik: 1. Using Broadcom Wireless in Ubuntu Breezy 5.1001:42
kingspawnniocin: great01:42
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niocinkingspawn: OKAY! hha01:42
Sivikthats what it gave me01:42
dyloniumim so confused01:42
SivikNick: thats what it gave me01:42
NickGarveySivik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx01:42
niocinkingspawn: is there an easier way instead of typeing or coyping out kingspawn: every time?01:42
niocinkingspawn: haha01:42
dyloniumdoes anyone know how to troubleshoot a windows admin passwrod?01:42
kingspawnniocin: Yes there is, you need to add this entry to your /etc/fstab01:42
NickGarvey!windows01:42
ubotuFor help with microsoft windows, please visit ##windows01:42
nickrudI thought I heard somewhere that cafuego had done some work on the bcm43xx recently01:42
Sivikthere we go01:43
Sivikit worked that way01:43
kingspawnniocin: sudo nano /etc/fstab01:43
dyloniumthanks01:43
niocinkingspawn: mmk now?01:43
Jowihow do I export display :0 in tightvncserver? i can export :1 and so on without problem.01:43
cafuegonickrud: I only packaged the firmware, nothing else.01:43
_jim_YUPEEEEEEEEE I mounted my 2 fat32 partitions!01:43
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dyloniumill still stay in here01:43
nickrudcafuego, I brought it up because of :01:43
_jim_now guys , i need help how to access the already mounted Primary Boot partition01:43
dyloniumjust in case i need help01:43
nickrud!bcm43xx01:43
ubotuTo use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.01:43
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kingspawnniocin: look at the other entries, at the bottom, start a new entry, and make it like: /dev/hdd1 /media/hdd1 msdos,umask=0000,fmask=0111,auto01:44
moparfan90how do i extract a .tar.gz file in terminal???01:44
kingspawnmoparfan90: tar zxvf file01:44
derekSmoparfan90: tar xvzf file01:44
nickrudcafuego, was mentioned as a bad link, my bad for not checking01:44
derekShaha01:44
moparfan90ok01:44
kingspawnderekS: ;)01:44
moparfan90thanks01:44
xnullhow can I make archives with zip ?01:44
jimcooncatnautilus question: I want to right-click on a file and get the md5sum. How to set this up so it's easy?01:44
dyloniumzip cvf filename.zip ?01:45
dyloniumnvm01:45
linxehzip filename.zip list.of.files01:45
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linxehyou may need -r for recursive01:45
_jim_hey guys how i can label my mounted partitions ?01:45
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niocinkingspawn: i have no clue haha, its fine i'll just stick to typing it out for now lmao01:46
moparfan90where are the themes stored for xfce?01:46
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kingspawnniocin: if you just add the line i gave you to the end of /etc/fstab, you should be okay01:46
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xnulllinxeh filename.zip dirs ?01:46
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chuckshello , could someone help me with a trouble i got with my laptop?01:46
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linxehxnull: zip -r filename.zip dirs01:47
zythAnyone here ever install/use ISPConfig on Ubuntu?01:47
nicolas__how do i manually get the pubkey for aptget ?01:47
xnulllinxeh thanks01:47
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moroseoyeee i'm back :(01:47
moparfan90sudo apt-get install pubkey .... maybe01:47
CaminomasterHello01:47
moparfan90lol idk01:47
nicolas__no01:48
CaminomasterHow can I configure aMSn to talk? (audio)01:48
christianpiperGAH! Anyone know how to find/install libcario1 on a ubununtu dapper machine?01:48
niocinkingspawn: i type that out and then i hit ctrl+x to get out then hit y to save and it says error writing /ect/fstab01:48
jmgapt-get install ubuntu-keyring01:48
niocinkingspawn: no such file dir01:48
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kingspawnniocin: /etc, not /ect01:48
johntramphey i have a problem with the xorg in ubuntu on my brother's computer.  he just installed 5.10 and then updated everything overnight and then this morning xorg wouldn't start,  so I reinstalled the ATI modules and now xorg starts but there are 8 overlapping screens01:48
johntramphas anyone seen this before?01:48
xnulllinxeh i got some warnings zip warning: name not matched: acs39co/acs39co/homedir/catalogs/acs39co/images01:48
nicolas__jmg: thx01:48
nickrudnicolas__, gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv  437D05B5      gpg --export --armor 437D05B5  | sudo apt-key add -01:49
xnulllinxeh: its everything ok? or ?01:49
linxehjohntramp: I've had no end of trouble with the ATI drivers so far01:49
linxehbut I'm using Dapper, so :o01:49
morosedoes one have to install spamassassin manually on breezy badger01:49
linxehxnull: does that path exist ?01:49
morose(5.10)01:49
nickrudnicolas__, erm, sorry  use :gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv  437D05B5  && gpg --export --armor 437D05B5  | sudo apt-key add -01:49
linxehmorose: think its in either multiverse or universe01:49
niocinkingspawn: er thats what i typed haha01:49
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xnulllinxeh: its a link01:49
nicolas__nickrud: thats what i was looking for but installing ubuntu-keyring fixed it01:49
CaminomasterHow can I configure aMSn to talk? (audio)01:49
johntramplinxeh, well he doesn't need 3d rendering,  just to be able to use the computer01:50
kingspawnniocin: there is no doubt that you have a /etc/fstab - you arent on a live cd are you?01:50
nickrudnicolas__, I'm always glad to hear of a shortcut :)01:50
moroselinxeh: s'anks01:50
matth-wIt actually almost seems like I'm having a problem running my hardware...01:50
matth-wBecause my cam isn't working, my cd-r is having problems.01:50
ciplogicnickrud: I was reinstalled GNOME and no progress :(01:50
niocinkingspawn: nope i'm on a install cd01:50
_jim_why i cant access Systen>Administration>Login Screen Setup ??????????/01:50
linxehjohntramp: have a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf, see the card/screen/Driver whatever section, and change it to "ati" from fglrx if that is what is there01:50
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kingspawnniocin: then /etc/fstab exists, undoubtedly.01:50
linxehxnull: humm01:50
kbrooksCaminomaster: #amsn ?01:50
linxehxnull: zip files wont handle links well - its not a windows concept I guess; why not use tar.gz ?01:51
nickrudciplogic, labels on a volume are nice, but not critical.01:51
niocinkingspawn: actually bro it doesnt01:51
xnulllinxeh : cuz tar is not working01:51
_jim_hey whats the FAQ ubuntu official site ?01:51
ciplogicnickrud: you have right... :P01:51
Jowi!vnc01:51
ubotu[vnc]  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)01:51
linxehxnull: what does tar do ?01:51
christianpiperHello-- Does anybody know if it is possible to install libcario1 on dapper? I am trying to get Dr Queue installed...01:51
_jim_!faq01:51
ubotuThe most Frequently Asked Questions of #ubuntu are summarized on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaqOnIrc - please have a look - see also !desktopguide01:51
kingspawnniocin: seriously? you are 100% sure here? ls -l /etc/fstab01:51
xnulllinxeh: core dumped i was hacked01:51
johntramplinxeh, ah yes that was the first error -  missing module fglrx01:51
amphixnull: see the -y option for zip for symlink option01:51
niocinkingspawn: wait, isnt /dev/hdd1 my 200gb one, i didnt install ubuntu on that01:51
Jowi!info x11vnc01:51
steelanyone have any idea how to get symlinks working in proftpd?01:51
johntramplinxeh, ill try that01:51
ubotux11vnc: (VNC server which uses your current X11 session), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.7.1-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 420 kB, Installed size: 920 kB01:51
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ciplogicchristianpiper: it is installed by default01:52
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kingspawnniocin: this is just to tell the system that it should make /dev/hdd1 available all the time01:52
linxehjohntramp,: it should work to get you up and runnign again - its what I've had to do here01:52
linxehxnull: ouch; want a binary for tar?01:52
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xnulllinxeh: nope01:52
ic56Trying to install on a bad harddisk.  How do I tell the installer to run01:52
niocinkingspawn: yeah dude i'm in on file browser on etc and i dont see fstab01:52
ic56badblocks(8) when creating the filesystems?01:52
kingspawnniocin: get into a terminal, and type ls -l /etc/fstab01:53
linxehmaybe another thing you could do is make a ext2 filesystem in a file, and mount it with loopback?01:53
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linxehassuming you are trying to backup files01:53
ciplogicis name is: /usr/lib/libcairo.so.201:53
kingspawnniocin: if it didnt exist, you probably wouldnt be able to boot your os01:53
nickrudniocin, are you saying that /etc/fstab doesn't exist?01:53
christianpiperOn DAPPER? Really? Cause the .Deb installer said it couldn't fix the dependency- and apt-get install libcario1 didn't find the package....01:53
ciplogicyou may use a symlink to your old references01:53
xnulllinxeh: or can I do it with bunzip2? or gunzip ?01:53
denisbrHi, What is include in the package ubuntu-desktop?01:53
linxehxnull: those will only handle single files at a time; you normally use them with tar01:53
ciplogicthe package is named: libcairo201:53
linxehxnull: you might be able to use cpio to create a cpio archive (older form of tar really), and gzip that etc01:54
niocinkingspawn: it says -rw-r--r--  1 root root 464 2005-07-08 06:08 /etc/fstab01:54
ciplogicbut inside has references to libcairo101:54
kingspawnniocin: it exists! now: sudo nano /etc/fstab01:54
amphixnull: why can't you use tar?01:54
scorchsaberHey, I want to install firefox 1.5.0.2, and I was wondering: Should I compile from source, or follow the directions for the default tar.gz that you can download (instructions:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion)01:54
linxehamphi: it cores01:54
nickrudchristianpiper, try libcairo201:54
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niocinkingspawn: hahaha woops, i was typing ect the entire time.......*slaps self*01:54
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ElazarCan anyone recommend a simple tool for Ubuntu that I can use to add text to a PDF file or export it to some editable format that won't rip the document formatting to shreds?01:54
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nickrudchristianpiper, but dapper questions should be in #ubuntu+101:55
kingspawnniocin: I was suspecting that ;)01:55
amphixnull: try running the tar command under gdb and see why/where it segfaults, perhaps01:55
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niocinkingspawn: sorrya bout that01:55
kingspawnniocin: its cool01:55
linxehamphi: he was hacked; I think he's just trying to backup a bunch of files01:55
farruinnscorchsaber: If there is documentation on the wiki I would follow that01:55
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niocinkingspawn: mmk did that, brb food01:55
kingspawnxnull: how did you get yourself hacked?01:56
amphilinxeh: ah01:56
scorchsaberfarruin: There is documentation for both precedures01:56
slavik!ubotu01:56
ubotuubotu is probably useless01:56
kingspawnniocin: k, leaving in about 5-1001:56
Caminomasterkbrooks, Yes,... can I configure aMSN to voice?01:56
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scorchsaberWhich should I choose?01:56
kingspawnnickrud: You know what I mean01:56
denisbrElazar, use the pdftotext for edit a pdf file01:56
linxehnickrud, depends if you are running a honeypot :)01:56
nickrudkingspawn, heh. It's all about voice :)01:57
kingspawnnickrud: :)01:57
spoonsI need to update libgcc1 to 1:4.0.2, though if I go to remove the old one it says it will take 600 and some odd meg off my hdd and that it is critical.01:57
spoonswhat do I have to do to get Blender 2.41 installed!01:57
zythhmm01:57
linxehwhy remove the old one ?01:58
Elazardenisbr: That'll convert it to plain text, though, won't it?01:58
nickrudlinxeh, and I stand corrected, that would be right voice01:58
scorchsaberShould I install from source or prebuilt tar.gz?01:58
niocinkingspawn: okay i'm back01:58
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spoonslinxeh don't I need to remove the old one to find the new one?01:58
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NickGarveyspoons: same say you need to sell your soul...01:58
chuckslinxeh- hey can i ask you some help?01:58
linxehspoons: can you not just upgrade the packet ?01:58
linxeherr01:58
linxehpackage01:58
denisbrElazar, yes, convert all text01:59
scorchsaberShould I install Firefox from source, or from the prebuilt tar.gz?01:59
farruinnscorchsaber: I would go with the the tar.gz - it won't take as long01:59
spoonsit says "libgcc1 is already the newest version."01:59
scorchsaberthank you01:59
Elazardenisbr: That's why I specifically said _won't_ rip the document formatting to shreds. :P01:59
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rustlerharvscorchsaber:  what about repos02:00
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scorchsaberrepos doesn't have up-to-date anything, really02:00
lilminimey06hi everyone02:00
nickrudscorchsaber, from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion02:00
lilminimey06everytime i connect my ipod i need to type this in a console: "mount -o users,exec,suid,umask=0 /dev/sdb2 /mnt/ipod/" how can i make this auto?02:00
romulohi, how i prevent one module from loading on kernel?02:00
kingspawnniocin: well, now you can test the fstab by first doing: sudo umount /media/hdd1  and then  sudo mount -a02:00
niocinkingspawn: mmk02:00
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scorchsabernickrud: I know, I have that page02:00
johntramplinxeh, no that didn't change anything :(02:00
denisbrWhat it is include in the package ubuntu-desktop? I want delete the package update-notifier, more is removing the package ubuntu-desktop02:00
nickrudscorchsaber, that wiki page will integrate firefox 1.5x properly with ubuntu02:00
dyloniumaha, i got the pw problem02:00
spoonsIf I upgrade to the new Beta unbuntu, will it run blender3d 2.4102:01
dyloniumso im fixed02:01
dyloniumhopefully02:01
lilminimey06anyone?02:01
niocinkingspawn: mmk i did that, now i check in file browser?02:01
scorchsaberYes. Thanks though02:01
kingspawnniocin: seems clever02:01
denisbrElazar, Sorry, I don't program for it02:01
amphidenisbr: don't worry about that - ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package02:01
rustlerharvspoons: it runs blender02:01
scorchsaberthe one on compiling also mentions that page to integrate your compiled version02:01
nickrudscorchsaber, if you'd already seen that page, why even ask02:01
rustlerharvidk about that version02:01
niocinkingspawn: yep its there02:01
farruinnspoons: You can check versions of packages on http://packages.ubuntu.com02:02
kingspawnniocin: then you're good to go, and it will mount every boot02:02
scorchsabernickrud: I didn't know whether to compile or use the default tar.gz02:02
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spoonsrustlerharv do you know if it is version 2.41? I can install blender 2.37 but its missing features I need for the tutorials.02:02
scorchsaberit was a deciosion02:02
ic56denisbr: dpkg -L ubuntu-desktop02:02
denisbramphi, humm, then How I removed the update-notifier our disabilited the automatic run?02:02
scorchsaberbleh02:02
lilminimey06dont anyone know?02:02
niocinkingspawn: mmk saweet, now about the whole typing out kingspawn: thing, is that something i'm just gonna have to do, or can i like shift click?02:02
nickrudscorchsaber, ah. Sorry, I hadn't seen it since some effort to mention self-compiled packages had been added.02:02
amphidenisbr: huh?02:02
kingspawnniocin: what do you mean now?02:02
lilminimey06i need to do that my ipod automaticly mounts when connected02:02
amphiipod schmipod02:03
scorchsabernickrud: I don't understand. What?02:03
rustlerharvspoons: im running 2.4102:03
nicolas__is there a metapackage for all the stuff that is normally installed at first boot ?02:03
denisbramphi, How I removed the package update-notifier ?02:03
niocinkingspawn: how i have to type out kingspawn: every time, is there an easier way?02:03
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kingspawnniocin: oh, heh, just type ki and hit tab02:03
amphidenisbr: htf would I know how you removed it?02:03
nickrudscorchsaber, never mind me. I'll just point at that page, and shut up :)02:03
niocinkingspawn, nice02:04
rustlerharvidk how to use it yet but thats what im runnning02:04
scorchsabernickrud: :D02:04
niocinkingspawn, that makes me less typing haha02:04
Sivikwhat is the easy way to upgrade from breezy to dapper?02:04
grungyI ruined my sources.list and ran apt-get upgrade-dist02:04
kingspawnniocin: does, doesnt it? :)02:04
spoonsrustlerharv do you know if I can upgrade ubuntu to the latest version without messing up my setup?02:04
scorchsaberthanks anyway nickrud02:04
niocinkingspawn, lol02:04
amphiniocin: soon you'll find yourself trying to tab-complete every word ;)02:04
hondadarrellanyone know where the C: drive is in wine?02:04
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niocinamphi, LOL yeah watch02:04
NickGarveyhondadarrell: need to mount it.. !mount02:05
kingspawnoh well, im off for the night02:05
rustlerharvspoons: upgrading to dapper in general or for blender02:05
amphiniocin: there's a script for irssi that uses a dictionary to let you do just that02:05
denisbramphi, yes, our How I then for to remove the execute automatic?02:05
spoonsrustlerharv upgrading to dapper02:05
hondadarrell!mount02:05
ubotumount is probably the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f02:05
scorchsaberIs there any terminal that accepts a command like Ctrl-V and C?02:05
scorchsaberI mean, i makes it a bit difficult02:05
grungyIs it possible to edit the sources.list in /etc/apt/sources.list from the cli?02:05
greenbmw530ican someone help me out with the flashplayer plugin for firefox?02:05
scorchsaberit* makes it a bit difficult02:06
niocinamphi, LoL wow you linux users get WAY lazy huh?02:06
kingspawnscorchsaber: ctrl-insert is copy, shift-insert is paste02:06
kingspawngrungy: yes yes02:06
niocinkingspawn, hey wait, if i want to put somehting on the hd, or change the name it wont let met02:06
inazad_Anyone can help me about my nividia tv out ?02:06
greenbmw530ican someone help me  with the flashplayer plugin for firefox?02:06
rustlerharvspoons: i tihnk it would prolly depend ive upgrade b4 with no problems other then having to reenable me nvidia drivers02:07
linxehniocin, it's not a linux thing :p02:07
grungycould you possibly tell me a way02:07
niocinlinxeh, haha02:07
grungyit would be most appreciated02:07
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farruinnscorchsaber: if you're in gnome-terminal just add shift for your ctrl-c/v type stuff02:07
amphidenisbr: sorry, you are hard to understand; you can use apt-get to remove the package; nothing else will be removed, just the ubuntu-desktop meta-package will no longer be installed, because one of the packages it 'contains' is being removed02:07
scorchsaberHm.. thanks02:07
kingspawnniocin: type !vfat in the channel here, and read the link on the wiki02:07
niocin!vfat02:07
ubotuDownload and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions02:07
amphiniocin: heh02:07
NickGarveyamphi: where can I find that script!? I have done that more than once, be like... supercali (tab tab tab) hey what the?...02:08
rustlerharvspoons: what tutorial are you r\unning02:08
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greenbmw530ican someone help me  with the flashplayer plugin for firefox?02:08
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amphiNickGarvey: heh - irssi.org02:08
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vinboyhi02:08
nickrudgreen_earz, sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree02:09
vinboyhow do I check my Xorg version?02:09
varsendaggerahh my computer keeps rebooting when i leave   how can i find out why it is doing this?02:09
varsendaggerhig02:09
Sivikgreen: are you using i386 or x86_64?02:09
varsendaggerhi02:09
greenbmw530ii get a "NOTE:  Please ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the02:09
greenbmw530i components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser"02:09
nickrudvinboy, X -version02:09
greenbmw530ii38602:09
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Sivikthen it should be very simple02:09
amphiNickGarvey: dictcomplete.pl it's called02:09
grungycould someone possible tell me how to edit a text file from the cli?02:09
greenbmw530iwhen i try to delete the two xpti.dat's, it says I don't have access.02:09
Sivikjust go to a page that needs the plugin and click on the plugin02:09
greenbmw530iyeah02:09
Sivikcli?02:09
greenbmw530ithen i download02:09
_jasongrungy: nano /path/to/file02:09
grungygedit will certainly not work02:09
scorchsaberscorchsaber@ubuntuDJ:/$ mv .mozilla/firefox .mozilla/firefox1.0.x.ubuntu02:09
scorchsabermv: cannot stat `.mozilla/firefox': No such file or directory02:09
Siviktry vi02:09
grungycommand line interface02:09
varsendaggeranyone?02:09
Sivikvi works02:10
Sivikvi filenam02:10
grungydamn, I don't know vi02:10
greenbmw530iread the readme...do it, but i get "NOTE: Please ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the02:10
greenbmw530i      components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser"02:10
grungyhow about emacs?02:10
scorchsaberWhats up with that? .mozilla is a hidden file, and there, and so is firefox in it. What do I need to do?02:10
NickGarveygrungy: nano then?02:10
nickrudgreenbmw530i, use sudo to remove those files (although I never had to)02:10
grungyseems more intuitive02:10
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Sivikgreen: it should it do automatily02:10
amphigrungy: there's mcedit too02:10
greenbmw530iit tells me i need an administrator to do so02:10
vinboythanks nickrud02:10
greenbmw530ibut i'll try sudo02:10
greenbmw530ity02:10
grungywould sudo vi filename work also02:10
grungy?02:10
nickrudgrungy, for editing system files, yes02:11
greenbmw530ibtw, how can i just log in as root/admin so i don't have to worry about things like this?02:11
sethkgrungy, sure02:11
nickrudgreenbmw530i, use sudo02:11
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j1pgr33npho3nix, logging in as root is bad, use sudo02:11
grungycool, thanks, this is great02:11
grungyI love it02:11
sethkgreenbmw530i, it's better to do sudo -i to get a root command shell02:11
greenbmw530ik02:11
scorchsabergreenbmw530i: You really don't want to, bad for security and all02:11
greenbmw530iok, thanks02:11
nickrudgreenbmw530i, it's a way of getting admin/root privileges, and a safe one02:11
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dligreenbmw530i, I enable root passwd on ubuntu :)02:11
scorchsaberwhats up with this:02:11
scorchsaberscorchsaber@ubuntuDJ:/$ mv .mozilla/firefox .mozilla/firefox1.0.x.ubuntu02:11
scorchsabermv: cannot stat `.mozilla/firefox': No such file or directory02:11
farruinnsethk: What's the difference between sudo -i and sudo -s -H?02:11
nickruddli, don't tempt people :)02:12
scorchsaberThere is that directory02:12
scorchsaberBut it won't move it?02:12
johntramplinxeh, hmmm now all i get is a black screen02:12
grungywell the problem is is that I ruined my sources.list for apt, so I'm stuck sans gui02:12
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grungyI'll try vi02:12
sethkfarruinn, -s sets the shell for each command, it isn't about getting a shell to enter multiple commands02:12
grungythanks guys02:12
nickrudfarruinn, you can see for yourself: do sudo -i , then env | sort. Then do sudo , then env | sort .02:13
Sivikhow do you upgrade from brezzy to dapper02:13
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scorchsabersolved it02:13
_jason!upgrade02:13
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .02:13
scorchsaberhad to add ~/ in front02:13
_jasonSivik: beware that dapper is still beta02:13
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scorchsaberI'll change the wiki to support that I guess02:13
Siviki don't care02:13
greenbmw530ibah, whats the command to delete files in terminal?02:13
nickrudfarruinn, the critical issue is what is your home dir, sudo -i uses /root and sudo uses /home/<you>02:13
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Siviki need the newer kernel02:13
_jasongreenbmw530i: rm02:13
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_jasonubotu: tell greenbmw530i about cli02:13
Sivikrm green02:13
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RedbluefireHey, X refuses to start on my fresh ubuntu install02:14
Sivikgreen: its rm and if its a folder, its rm -r02:14
greenbmw530imany thanks02:14
RedbluefireI've tracked it to the config file, but dexconf errors out02:14
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Sivikgreen: yw02:14
johntrampcan't i browse the ubuntu forums without registering?02:14
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nickrudRedbluefire, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't get you a working X?02:15
niocinWill someone help me install wine?02:15
newbuntucan anyone tell me what the best way to convert a downloaded avi movie into  mpg so I can turn around and have k3b burn it to a vcd that can be watched on a dvdplayer?02:15
crimsunniocin: enable universe, then use Synaptic to install wine02:15
nickrudno, wine is evil (rflmao)02:15
NickGarveynewbuntu: I saw a perl script, avi2mpeg02:15
newbuntuniocin apt-get install wine  then install winetools02:15
ic56cat: ../q1: No such file or directory02:16
j1pniocin, you should use the wine apt repository, instead of ubuntu's02:16
newbuntuim still shakey on scripts02:16
RedbluefirePassword? what's the default root password, or is it my password?02:16
niocinjlp, how woudl i do that?02:16
linxehjohntramp: humm; maybe you dont have the xorg-driver-ati package installed ?02:16
nickrudRedbluefire, there is no root password02:16
j1pniocin, add deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/ to your sources.list02:16
nickrud!tell Redbluefire about root02:16
linxehjohntramp, or the display settings (refresh, resolution etc) is incorrect for the driver ?02:16
niocinjlp, i've done that02:17
ic56Trying to install on a bad harddisk.  How do I tell the installer to run badblocks(8) when creating the filesystems?02:17
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nickrudRedbluefire, that msg you just got will give you an overview02:17
j1pniocin, alright, have you updated /etc/apt/preferences?02:17
Redbluefirenope, x still has the same error02:17
niocinjlp, nope02:17
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steelhow do i mount only a subdirectory of a hard drive into another hard drive02:17
j1pniocin, http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb should have all the information you need02:17
linxehic56: ctrl+alt+f1, get a command prompt and do it by hand, then dont let the installer format maybe ?02:17
niocinjlp, okay02:17
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rustlerharvsteel: what file systems02:18
nickrudRedbluefire, if you'd post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:18
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dougiefreshgreetings, what is the latest stable release of ubuntu?02:18
Redbluefirehmm, it's on the other computer, can i do that via command prompt?02:18
amphisteel: you mount partitions02:18
steela windows partition02:18
johntramplinxeh, usually when they are the problem xorg wont start tho wont it?  would it have anything to do with the dri line?02:18
rustlerharvntfs or fat02:18
steelfat02:18
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nickrudRedbluefire, hm, yes, there's a script to help with that, a sec02:18
Redbluefirehehe02:18
schultzihey, quick question, is there any way i can get an image background for my framebuffer?02:19
amphisteel: mount -t vfat /dev/whatever /mount/point02:19
rustlerharvyou should be able mv them02:19
dougiefreshanyone?02:19
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johntramplinxeh, is there an xorgconfig of some sort which i can run so that it generates the same xorg file as after a new install?02:19
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steelbut how do i mount only part of the drive... i dont want to mount the whole HD only a subdirectory within it02:19
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majdhi02:19
rustlerharvsteel: y not the whole ting02:20
amphisteel: you mount partitions02:20
majdcan i use wine to install my camera's driver and then load up msn messenger (also using wine) and use my webcam?02:20
dougiefreshbreezy is out of beta isn't it?02:20
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crimsunbreezy released in october 2005.02:20
brandon_steel: the path to the subdirectory should be in the /dev/whatever section02:20
steelim sharing it for FTP, don't need to FTP my personal files02:20
ic56dougiefresh: breezy badger (5.10) is current.  Dapper Drake, the next one, is due June 1st02:20
schultzimajd: it probably wont work, something as low-level as drivers dont play well with wine02:20
brandon_steel: so /dev/drive/pathtodirectory02:20
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steelthanks02:21
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nickruddoes anyone have seveas's python pastebin script at hand, I can't seem to google it02:21
steelwrong slash02:21
myleftfoothehe, wrong slashy02:21
dougiefreshso if I'm running breezy what would I put in apt.sources file?02:21
Seveasnickrud, perhaps it's linked on the pastebin site....02:22
nickrudSeveas, doh, kick me again :)02:22
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Redbluefireheh02:22
majdwhat kernel version does breezy 5.10 use?02:22
rustlerharvdougiefresh: change breezy to dapper02:22
Seveasmajd, 2.6.1202:22
majdk thanks02:22
Sivik2.6.1202:22
dougiefreshbut isn't dapper beta?02:22
steelwhat kernal do i have to have to mount things to multiple places02:23
schultzianybody good with framebuffers?02:23
rustlerharvya02:23
dougiefreshdont wanna use beta02:23
Sivikhow do i upgrade from breezy to dapper02:23
amphisteel: what do you mean?02:23
Seveas!tell Sivik about upgrade02:23
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nickrudSeveas I meant the one that doesn't need a gui, I know I saw it once02:23
steelamphi: there's a new kernal that allows mounting HDs to multiple places, i might not be that high up02:23
scorchsaberFirefox is correctly installed, and an error in the wiki changed02:23
rustlerharvdougiefresh: then dont upgrae02:23
scorchsaberHooah!02:24
biovoresteel: thats nothing new02:24
nickrudSeveas, and you need a better sense of humor, or a better sense of context02:24
dougiefreshnothing trying to upgrade?02:24
dougiefresh:)02:24
dougiefreshtrying to bootstrap it02:24
varsendaggerSeveas, ahh my computer keeps rebooting when i leave   how can i find out why it is doing this?02:24
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astro9040hello02:24
steelwell i dont think mine is doing it02:24
astro9040on .deb files i use dpkg right?02:24
steelbecause when i try to mount it it says it doesnt exist02:24
steeland it does02:25
PuMpErNiCkLesteel: Wouldn't using a symlink be easier?02:25
amphisteel: you can't mount a directory02:25
varsendaggeris there a crash report that i can read, it weems to do it everyday since i redid my system02:25
steeli thought... i could mount a subdirectory, and symlinks dont work in ftp02:25
PuMpErNiCkLevarsendagger: check the output of dmesg02:25
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SivikSaveas: the command on that page doesn't work02:25
myleftfootSivik, you can use    gksudo "update-manager -d"  to upgrade to dapper02:25
NickGarveysteel: oohh.. thats why I couldn't cd over ftp to a sym link.. oh...02:25
twingeanyone had any luck getting xinerama working with a dell laptop?02:25
astro9040or the command sudo dpkg -i <.debfile>02:26
steelhehe02:26
nicolas__how do you call that gnome applet that reminds you of updates ?02:26
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Siviki get an error that says "Xlib: connction to ":0.0" refused by server02:26
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PuMpErNiCkLenicolas__: update-manager02:26
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Sivikmyleftfoot: i get that error and it stops02:26
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nickrudRedbluefire, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin02:27
Redbluefirewget it?02:27
brandon_steel: you could just change your shared ftp folder fromt eh default, which i think is var/pub, to this fat folder you're mounting02:27
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zithtest02:27
NickGarveying12302:27
sinnergtest back :p02:27
Sivikmyleftfoot: it says my system is up to date02:28
steelbrandon_: I have other things i need to have in there and the fat is read only02:28
NickGarveyharvard.stanford.edu02:28
NickGarveyshow off02:28
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Sivikthere it goes02:28
Sivikmyleftfoot: nvm02:28
steelthis is what the proftpd guide says to do,"Work arounds to allow access to other parts of the file system include exporting the part of the filesystem to be accessed from inside the chroot and mounting via NFS" how do i do that?02:28
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nicolas__PuMpErNiCkLe: this is an application02:28
nicolas__it doesnt appear on gnomes applet list02:28
Sivikwhat kernel does dapper use?02:29
linuxgeekerySivik: 2.6.1502:29
Sivikis the bcm43xx drivers in that on?02:29
Sivikone*02:29
cafuegoyes02:29
Sivikkick02:29
NickGarvey Sivik: ndiswrapper is what I use02:29
steelit also says "As of the 2.4.x Linux kernel tree it is possible to mount filesystems multiple times and to mount subdirectories of filesystems elsewhere on the filesystem."02:29
Sivikndiswrapper is old and i could never get to work02:30
PuMpErNiCkLenicolas__: It iconifies if there are any updates.02:30
NickGarveySivik: old?02:30
niocinmmk so i did pretty much everything the wine site told me, and it installed i think but it went from settiing up wine to ... and stopped02:30
Sivikthe old way to do it02:30
Redbluefirenickrud, what's it's usage, how do I execute the script?02:30
Siviksince there are drivers now02:30
NickGarveySivik: if its old and it works why not do it?02:30
NickGarveyI still eat with my mouth but people have been doing that for thousands of years ;)02:30
SivikNick: i never can get it to work02:30
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brandon_steel: maybe when you tried to mount the folder, you got the path wrong02:30
NickGarveyah, okie, worked fine when I compiled the newest version from svn02:31
steeli hope so02:31
steellet me recheck02:31
Sivikwell, then you must be a better man than me02:31
niocinNickGarvey, hey can you help me getting wine to work?02:31
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brandon_steel: and remember, it's case sensitive02:31
NickGarveyniocin: mm I use suse, it was very easy for me, not sure how to get it to work for you02:31
steelyea02:31
majdhi02:31
majdhow can i "2) run 'make'"02:31
steeli did it right...02:32
niocincan anyone help me get wine working?02:32
Sivikwhat wrong with it niocin?02:32
Sivikdo you have it installed?02:32
linuxgeekeryniocin: what's the problem?02:32
PuMpErNiCkLemajd: If you have the 'build-essential' package installed, make sure you're in the right directory, you've run ./configure, and then just invoke 'make'.02:32
steelhow do i check my kernal version?02:32
Sivikman /proc/version02:33
PuMpErNiCkLesteel: uname -r02:33
niocinI think i got it installed, it sayd it finished downloading then it says Setting up wine (0.9.12~winehq1-1) ...02:33
niocin and then goes back to niocin@jakin:02:33
linuxgeekerysteel: uname -r02:33
biovoresteel: uname -a02:33
biovorelolz02:33
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steelheh02:33
nickrudRedbluefire , a sec.02:33
Sivikniocin: then type wine --help02:33
Sivikand see what you get02:33
biovore1 question 4 valid different answers02:33
Redbluefirek02:33
linuxgeekeryniocin: or winecfg - configure wine02:33
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Sivikthat works as well02:33
brandon_steel: uname -r02:33
steelheh thanks02:33
niocinlinuxgeekery, okay that seemed to come up haha02:34
nickrudRedbluefire, I thought it was a simple 'paste the following file to the pastebin', but it's a bit better than that it seems02:34
majdgrr02:34
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Redbluefirelol02:34
majdi have a Logitech Quickcam Orbit02:34
NickGarveysteel: I think it might just be uname -r02:34
majdi read that it can work in linux02:34
majdbut i can't get it working for the life of me02:34
steelim not... sure02:34
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varsendaggerPuMpErNiCkLe, hey i got the dmesg   output, what should i be looking for?02:35
majdhttp://kerneltrap.org/node/540202:35
niocinlinuxgeekery, if i have a other hard drive mounted, can i access a program to run off of that?02:36
niocinlinuxgeekery, because i go to applications>add app and try and find it, and it wont let me02:36
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PuMpErNiCkLevarsendagger: Anything that looks like 'fatal error' or 'panic' or 'something really bad is happening and I don't know how to handle it'.  It could be anything, really.02:36
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niocinlinuxgeekery, or do i have to run the .exe off the disk and re-install it?02:37
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varsendaggerlinux is so articulate02:37
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NickGarveyvarsendagger: expressing yourself easily or characterized by clear expressive language; "articulate speech"; "an articulate orator"; "articulate beings"02:38
NickGarveyvarsendagger: so.. thats good?02:38
niocinOr, i an not be helped..02:38
hou5tonHow do I set up a spam filter in Evolution?02:38
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NickGarveyniocin: mm I don't totally understand your question..02:38
varsendaggeri got an out of memory killed xorg02:39
jerwarewhen i clean my cookies and web browser reminance, i still see past search results in any web pages text/search bar.  such as google.  how do i delete these too?02:39
varsendagger^ that is bad02:39
steelanyone know how to to mount subdirectories of filesystems elsewhere on the filesystem?02:39
niocinNickGarvey, Well, i have wine installed, and i have a program that was installed on my mounted hd from windows, do i have to run the setup.exe off of the disk and re-install it, or can i run it off the other drive?02:39
amphivarsendagger: the curse of the OOMkiller ;)02:39
NickGarveyjerware: "saved form information" clear that02:39
jerwareamphi:  isnt oomkiller Rawplayer?02:40
NickGarveyniocin: eh.. I don't know much about wine.. notihng about how to install stuff02:40
amphijerware: ?02:40
jerwarewhats oomkiller?02:40
niocinNickGarvey, haha okay..02:40
biovoreoom.. its moo backwards..02:40
biovore:-P02:40
niocinAnyone famillar with wine?02:40
amphijerware: the kernel 'out of memory' process killer02:40
biovorehmm I drink wine..02:40
varsendaggerNickGarvey, Hi my name is Varsendagger, but my superpower is STanting the obvious and My real name is captian obvious02:40
amphi!anyone02:40
ubotua large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>02:40
NickGarveyniocin: maybe #wine02:40
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varsendaggeroomkiller how do i fix it?02:41
NickGarveyvarsendagger: was that an insult?02:41
amphivarsendagger: don't run out of memory ;) do you have swap enabled?02:41
varsendaggerNickGarvey, No i Just state the obvious02:41
hou5tonHow do I set up a spam filter in Evolution?02:41
jerwareNickGarvey:  Thanx alot pal02:41
NickGarveyhou5ton: I'd look into spamassassin02:41
varsendaggeronly like 25602:41
NickGarveyjerware: :)02:41
Jinkgunshttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16855603835 <--- Bought this today. It works with linux. :D02:41
hou5tonNickGarvey:  It asks for the original Ubuntu install disk .... don't have it .... ??02:42
NickGarveynice Jinkguns02:42
jerwarenow i can take my laptop into work, show presentations, with out revealing "BLOWJOBS GALORE/POOP PORN "02:42
NickGarveyoo just nice02:42
jerwareNickGarvey ^02:42
niocinokay02:42
NickGarvey!tell hou5ton about aptcd02:42
niocincan anyone help me install fluxbox?02:42
_jasonniocin: sudo aptitude install fluxbox02:42
NickGarveyjerware: thats.. good...02:42
amphivarsendagger: how much ram?02:42
jerwarelol02:42
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RobyXDO I type "sudo apt-get install PACKAGE.deb" to install a .deb from the desktop?02:42
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_jason!deb02:42
ubotuTo install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)02:42
varsendaggerNickGarvey, Thou beslubbering reeling-ripe vassal!    that is an insult02:42
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RobyXthanks.02:42
varsendaggerlike 38402:43
varsendaggeramphi,02:43
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niocin_jason, okay, now how do i run it02:43
NickGarveyvarsendagger: eek take it easy man you are going to make me cry with insults like thta02:43
NickGarveys/thta/that02:43
amphivarsendagger: you could make more swap, 512 or so02:43
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amphivarsendagger: what ran you out of ram?02:43
varsendaggerok02:43
varsendaggerxorg02:43
majdWhy can't i copy-paste folders from my windows drive to my linux drive?02:43
_jasonniocin: logout and at the login screen, press the 'sessions' button and choose fluxbox02:43
niocinokay02:43
varsendaggermajd, !samba02:44
majd!samba02:44
ubotumethinks samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html02:44
varsendaggeramphi, NickGarvey thanks02:44
NickGarveyany time?02:44
RobyXJason, will that  "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb" install the file that is placed on my desktop?02:44
Sivikthanks for telling me how to upgrade my kernel all02:45
_jasonRobyX: first you will have to change the current working directory to the Desktop, this command would do that: cd ~/Desktop02:45
ranixHow do I run Enlightenment instead of Metacity on login but make no other changes to my GDM startup? (.Xsession hoses everything)02:45
_jasonubotu: tell RobyX about cli02:45
Sivikranix: did you install entrance?02:45
NickGarvey!tell ranix about enlightenment02:45
codecainewhen im playing flash on a webpage the sound it off from the video how can I fix that?02:45
ranixI have enlightenment02:45
ranixwhat is entrance, Sivik?02:45
codecaineI use firefox monzilla02:45
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Siviknvm, i'm wrong02:45
NickGarveyoh okie sorry02:45
_jasoncodecaine: are you using the default firefox in breezy?02:45
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amphivarsendagger: do you run gnome?02:45
codecainenaw I upgraded to the newest firefox02:46
Sivikjust set the session to default when it asks you if you want to join just this time or set as default02:46
majdvarsendagger, do i access it normally after installing samba?02:46
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ranixsivik, that will load up my normal session02:46
ranixSivik, I want to replace metacity with enlightenment in the default session02:46
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nickrudRedbluefire, just to let you know I'm still struggling, if you still need non X pastbinning02:46
Sivikthen edit the .xsession file02:46
Redbluefireyea, still need it, thanks a ton :)02:46
faroushi all just fast c question what is := stand for02:46
ranixwhere?02:46
_jasoncodecaine: install alsa-oss and run firefox as 'aoss firefox'02:46
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codecainedid that02:47
nickrudRedbluefire, I don't currently, but I can see it in my future :)02:47
farouscodecaine: is it for mplayer plugin02:47
codecaineyoutube02:47
_jasoncodecaine: did you close all instances of firefox and then run it through aoss?02:48
codecaineyes02:48
codecaineaoss is saved in the config file02:48
Sivikranix: you may have to create the file, just read the readme for installing elightenment.  It will explain how to change the xsession file02:48
myleftfootThanks to All. I Love Dapper!!!02:48
_jasoncodecaine: no, you need to actually run it as 'aoss firefox' on a command line02:48
Sivikwhats new in dapper?02:48
_jasoncodecaine: that config file only works with the firefox that comes from ubuntu afaik02:48
codecaineoh02:48
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codecaineits a older firefox though has security holes02:49
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_jasoncodecaine: really?  what are they?02:49
hou5tonI installed spamassasin and associated packages, but don't see it anywhere ..... how do I get it to interface with Evolution?02:50
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NickGarveyhou5ton: eek no idea use google, I use kontact02:50
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Sivikdoes that make sense ranix02:50
nickrudRedbluefire, well, I haven't figured out how to use the pastebin script, sorrry02:50
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Redbluefiregah :P02:51
nickrudRedbluefire, ask the authority02:51
Redbluefirewhossat?02:51
codecainelet me find the link02:51
nickrudRedbluefire, I got it from http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin02:51
Redbluefireyea, I wgetted it and tried to get it working02:52
iffhi has anybody had their fonts change in xfce after ctrl-alt-backspace such as the menu and titlebar?02:52
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farouscodecaine: is it for plugin for mplayer or just for flash02:52
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abkhey guys, I'm trying to get WPA working with wpa_supplicant, with the ipw2100 driver. when I run "sudo wpa_supplicant -i eth1 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -D ipw -w" I get a message "ioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA] : Operation not supported02:53
abk" and then nothing. any ideas?02:53
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abkmy instructions are all off the WPAHowto wiki page02:53
spoons9 minutes!02:53
codecainehttp://www.pro-linux.de/security/529902:54
codecainefor flash02:54
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farouscodecaine: than use _jason way you need aoss firefox02:55
hou5tonNickGarvey:  you running KDE in Ubuntu?02:55
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_jasoncodecaine: that page states ``The problem can be corrected by upgrading the affected package toversion 1.0.8-0ubuntu4.10 (for Ubuntu 4.10), 1.0.8-0ubuntu5.04 (for buntu 5.04), or 1.0.8-0ubuntu5.10 (for Ubuntu 5.10).''02:55
codecainedid it from terminal the sound is still off02:55
NickGarveyhou5ton: nope, suse 10.002:55
abkack, ka-durr. mis-set the SSID in wpa_supplicant.conf02:55
hou5tonNickGarvey:  Now you got me REAL curious ... so ... you run SuSE and hang out here to help wannabe's like me?  :-)02:56
_jasoncodecaine: did you close all instances of firefox beforehand?02:56
amphiNickGarvey: debian here ;)02:56
NickGarveyhou5ton: if you want to put it that way.. I find theres a lot more newer linux users here and I like to help them get on their feet02:57
farouscodecaine: first type killall firefox-bin02:57
Sivikthanks Nick02:57
Sivikby the way02:57
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NickGarveyyup02:57
niocin_how do i change my resolution with ubuntu02:57
Sivikhey Nick: how do i get flash to work in a 64 bit version of FC or Suse02:57
codecaineyes02:58
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NickGarveySivik: suse uses a 32 bit firefox, so get the 32 bit flash player02:58
hollywoodbiff: i believe your session is saved when you log out, if you ctrl+alt+backspace X, then your settings won't be preserved02:58
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farouscodecaine: than type /usr/bin/aoss /bin/sh /usr/bin/firefox02:58
Sivikok02:58
NickGarveySivik: that easy02:58
nickrud!tell niocin about fixres02:58
Sivikthat would explain why its not working02:58
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Sivikcause i'm trying to download the 64 bit flash02:58
NickGarveyyup02:58
Sivikthanks02:58
farruinnTrying to build a kernel from the linux-source-2.6.12 package but can't even get to configuration: http://pastebin.com/68213602:58
nickrud!tell Seveas about heh02:58
Sivikcause the auto doesn't work02:58
MHobbit!fixres02:58
ubotufixres is, like, Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:58
_jasoncodecaine: what else do you have playing sound?02:58
ubuntulinanyone know how to delete old kernels?02:58
spoons5 minutes!02:58
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amphispoons: ?02:59
codecainejust the system02:59
spoons*Laughs*02:59
codecainewhen u click on icons etc02:59
hollywoodbfarruinn: you need gcc-3.4 (ubuntu ships with gcc-4.0), apt-get install gcc-3.402:59
farouscodecaine: did you set default multimedia to alsa02:59
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farousanyway got to go now care codecaine  and care all02:59
hollywoodbfarruinn: you can have both versions installed without problems03:00
farruinnhollywoodb: Thanks - wasn't mentioned in the wiki :)03:00
spoonsupgrading my ubuntu from breezy to dapper. getting board watching my terminal screen. So I decied to tell everyone how much time was left before it was done.03:00
ubuntulinanyone know how to delete old kernels?03:00
hou5tonApparantly Thunderbird has built-in spam filtering ...03:00
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NickGarveyhou5ton: heh sounds good to me03:00
amphiubuntulin: apt-get remove <old_kernel_package>03:00
nickrudubuntulin, just run synaptic, and remove all the kernels you don't wnat03:00
ubuntulinnickrud: how do i find them in synaptic?03:00
amphihou5ton: yeah, the baysian filters are said to work well by friends how use tbird03:01
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spoons2 minutes!03:01
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ubuntulinnickrud: i'm not sure what to search for03:02
nickrudubuntulin, simplest way is ctl-f , and linux-image -> all your installed kernels should show up there03:03
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codecaineoh well I guess its not that important03:03
niocinokay does can anyone help me along with installing World of Warcraft?03:03
NickGarvey!wow03:03
ubotuit has been said that wow is To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/WoW and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource03:03
niocinhaha that rules03:03
NickGarvey:)03:03
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steelhow do i access windows networks after i've installed samba?03:04
ubuntulinnickrud: is it okay to remove "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-18-386" it's affected by removing "linux-image-2.6.15-20-386"03:05
spoonsaaaah my systems going bonkers now!03:05
halazeaHi folks.  I was hoping someone here could tell me how to rearrange the control, win, and alt keys for my system.03:05
niocinanyone know how to make terimal opaque?03:06
hollywoodbubuntulin: what kernel are you running? (uname -a)03:06
nickrudubuntulin, you're gonna want to remove all the restricted modules that match kernels you want to remove ; -21 is the latest (why are you asking here, that's a #ubuntu+1 question :)03:06
niocinnevermind03:06
ubuntulinhollywoodb: 2.6.15-21-38603:06
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Falstiusis there a windows manager that looks okay on a TV?  I don't want to use mythtv since there's no actual recording involved, just display.03:07
codecaineis it was faster the kernel ubuntu installs for u?03:07
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hollywoodbubuntulin: then you should only need linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-21-i386 unless you plan on downgrading kernels03:07
ubuntulinnickrud: didn't want to join +1 b/c removing kernels isn't *directly* related to dapper03:07
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ubuntulinhollywoodb: nope :)03:08
sifl_i'm starting to learn how to use php and mysql, does anyone know what apps i should install to just mess around with till i learn it full on?03:08
nickrudubuntulin, if you're running dapper, all questions belong there. Breezy is really different.03:09
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ubuntulinnickrud: okay, i'll keep it in mind -- problem solved03:09
ubuntulinnickrud: thx for your help03:09
spoonsI'm just upgrading to dapper, been running breezy for a few weeks. :)03:09
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Siviki'm upgrading to dapper too03:09
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Sivikdidn't know there was a newer one03:09
ubuntulinhollywoodb: thx, deleted all but linux-image...21..03:09
spoonsI didn't relize this channel was more for dapper.03:10
NickGarveyits not03:10
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NickGarvey!tell sifl_ about lamp03:10
hollywoodbubuntulin: double-check you have the right linux-restriced-modules by 'apt-get install linux-restricted-modules'03:10
ronivillab2aw03:10
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ronivillab2iloveyou03:11
steeli love you03:11
ronivillab2hi03:11
steven_is there a way to run windows and ubuntu at the same time03:11
nickrudshmoochie stuff has to have another channel :)03:11
_jason#ubuntu-love03:11
ronivillab2maybe03:11
ubuntulinhollywoodb: got another package "linux-restricted-modules" gives me "couldn't find package..."03:11
nickrudsteven_, vmware03:11
ubuntulin?03:12
sifl_thanks nick i definately got hella readin to do for a project i'm workin on....more sleepless nights03:12
NickGarveysifl_: :) thats the fun of linx03:12
ronivillab2hi everybody03:12
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steven_nickrud how do i get that03:12
spoonscan ya get vmware with apt-get03:12
ronivillab2any one can help me this ubonto03:12
ubuntulinspoons: as far as i know you have to buy vmware03:12
sifl_linux and no doze....all i need in life03:12
NickGarveyubuntulin: yes, everything cept vmplayer03:12
nickrudsteven_, http://www.vmare.com/03:12
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ubuntulinnickgarvey: what's vmplayer?03:13
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hollywoodbubuntulin: oops, linux-restricted-modules-i38603:13
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NickGarvey!vmplayer03:13
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey03:13
nickrudvmware, vmware player, they all come from the same place03:13
NickGarveyubuntulin: http://www.vmware.com/products/player/03:13
steven_nickrud that wasn't anything03:13
steven_is there another link03:13
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NickGarveysteven_: he forgot the w, its http://www.vmware.com03:14
spoonscan you run windows in ubuntu with vmplayer?03:14
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ubuntulinhollywoodb: i think it's "linux-restricted-modules-386" sans 'i'...anyway i got 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. -- that means i'm good to go right?03:14
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nickrudNickGarvey, I swear I cut and pasted :)03:14
TehUnihow can i get 2 monitors working in ubuntu? got a nvidia 6600gt with 2 monitors plugged in, but only 1 active.03:15
codecainemplayer is the best player for linux right?03:15
NickGarveycodecaine: never use the word best ;)03:15
lvraabcodecaine, VLC03:15
j1pcodecaine, for what purposes?03:15
ubuntulinnickgarvey: interesting, i used to run ubuntu on vmware, but my computer didn't have enough ram03:16
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codecaineto watch movies like divx wmv files etc03:16
j1pcodecaine, try VLC, it works with a lot less hassle than mplayer03:16
codecaineonly down fall you can't can't strech the movies to full screen :/03:16
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hollywoodbubuntulin: yep03:16
codecainecool ok03:16
amphicodecaine: I prefer mplayer03:16
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niocinhow come i cant copy from my other hard drie03:16
nickrudspoons, there's this whole thing going on, slicing the processor between different operating systems. vmware is the granddaddy, xen is what edgy eft is supposed to have, and microsoft is claiming they'll have a working slicer. It's the most exciting thing I've heard of in the last ten years, that this is actually happening03:16
NickGarveyI like amarok03:16
ubuntulinhollywoodb: thx for your help, i'm going to restart03:17
codecaineVLC has alot of codec support?03:17
GoDawgshey ya'll..03:17
amphicodecaine: they all use the same codec libs AFAIK03:17
GoDawgswanna know how to add programs to the applications menu once their installed through synaptic03:17
_jasonGoDawgs: applications > system tools > applications menu editor03:18
j1pcodecaine, VLC supports almost all codecs out of the box, except for RealMedia i think03:18
GoDawgs_jason: ok... let me give that a shot... thanks03:18
_jasonvlc in the repos will not play wmv903:18
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GoDawgs_jason: I don't have that open... even when I go into alacarte menu editor03:19
_jasonGoDawgs: you don't have what open?03:19
GoDawgsI dont' have the applications menu editor03:20
GoDawgsdon't03:20
amphi_jason: just say 'no' to evil proprietary codecs03:20
_jasonGoDawgs: what version of ubuntu are you using?03:20
GoDawgsdapper03:20
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GoDawgsdidn't think this was a dapper specific question though03:20
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_jasonGoDawgs: well applications menu editor is alacarte03:21
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_jasonamphi: I would love to, just tell that to the content providers :/03:21
GoDawgs_jason: ok, then I'm confused... why aren't the programs I downloaded there?  could they be somewhere else?03:22
ubuntulinhollywoodb: good, thx03:22
_jasonGoDawgs: what program in particular?  (not all programs get a menu item, although if it is a gui program it should and you should file a bug003:22
ubuntulincan anyone explain to me what "memtest86+" is?03:22
GoDawgs_jason: it's a gmail notifier03:22
christina_i need help installing a hp web cam03:23
GoDawgs_jason: let me see what the specific name of it is03:23
GoDawgs_jason: I thought it was a panel insert though03:23
RobyXHow do I access "universe repository"03:23
_jasonGoDawgs: try 'killall gnome-panel' and then check your internet menu again03:23
_jasonubotu: tell RobyX about universe03:23
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GoDawgs_jason: ok03:23
christina_can anyone help me?03:23
spoonsI started upgrading to dapper about 30 min ago or so, should I have shut everything else off to do this? I obviously havn't, and I just thought of it realy. *Laughs*03:24
GoDawgs_jason: it's the mail watcher plugin for the Xfce4 panel03:24
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amphi_jason: _you_ tell 'em, I don't come across wmvs03:24
christina_can someone help me ?03:24
_jasonamphi: heh we must have different surphing habits ;)03:24
GoDawgs_jason: maybe that's my problem... it's for xfce4... what's xfce4?  is that another name for gnome?03:25
amphi_jason: so it would seem ;) I use w3m mostly03:25
christina_i want to install my web cam03:25
_jasonGoDawgs: no it's a different desktop environment03:25
christina_my cd for it won't run03:25
GoDawgs_jason: oh... so it's not compatible with gnome?03:25
_jasonGoDawgs: is the package, gmail-notify ?03:25
christina_is there something else i should do?03:25
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GoDawgs_jason: no... it's mail watcher plugin for the Xfce4 panel03:26
_jasonGoDawgs: ok, not sure about that then.  And I'm not familiar with xfce to tell you how to add a shortcut in the menu03:26
GoDawgs_jason: no problem... thanks for trying though...03:26
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christina_can anyone talk me through hooking up my web cam?03:27
_jasonubotu: tell christina_ about repeat03:27
_jasonubotu: tell christina_ about support03:27
amphiGoDawgs: there's always xbiff ;)03:27
GoDawgsamphi: what's xbiff?03:28
amphiGoDawgs: man xbiff03:28
GoDawgsamphi: sorry... but I don't know what you're talking about... :(03:28
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amphiGoDawgs: type man xbiff in a term03:29
GoDawgsamph03:29
GoDawgsok03:29
GoDawgsamphi: sorry... ok... will do it now03:29
amphiGoDawgs: it might be more basic than you want03:29
GoDawgsamphi: actually, no... that's actually exactly what I want... but it says it's for X... what's X?03:30
Installer36My wireless card is Identified but for me to connect I must type sudo ifconfig eth1...is there a way around this?03:31
amphiGoDawgs: the x window system, on which your desktop is built; it'll work03:31
Installer36sudo ifconfig eth1 up03:31
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GoDawgsamphi: oh okay... thanks for the tip and education! :)03:31
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nickrudGoDawgs, the thing that writes to your screen is X, a lot of old stuff that worked under X was called x<stuff>03:31
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GoDawgsnickrud: right on... thank you!!!03:32
ubuntulnxis there a way to remove memtest86+ ?03:32
amphiGoDawgs: there's also a system monitor called gkrellm which includes a mailbox watcher03:32
nickrudGoDawgs, try apt-cache search biff , you'll see some other stuff03:32
hou5tonInstaller36:  I have found that Ubuntu will now allow two live connections at the same time .... do you have a cable plugged in too?03:32
GoDawgsamphi: nickrud:  let me try both of them... I can't believe how many great programs are written for Linux...03:33
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cpl-tnt900hi !03:33
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the_guy1Hi03:33
cpl-tnt900does any one know how can i load wireless network with dlink dwl650 +?03:33
ubuntulnxis there a way to remove memtest86+?03:33
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amphiubuntulnx: apt-get remove03:34
Installer36hou5ton...no but it says eth0 active in the networking so I deactivate it the type eth1 up03:34
ubuntulnxamphi: apt-get remove what?03:34
nickrudubuntulin, memtest86+ ?03:34
hou5tonInstaller36:  ya .. I have to do the same thing .... and then it will be fine as long as I don't change the type of connection.03:34
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cpl-tnt900ubuntulnx : do u know hot how to load wireless d-link dwl650+ to ubunto  ?03:35
Installer36hou5ton ..when I did the install I was wired with a ethernet cable03:35
ubuntulnxyep memtest86+03:35
johntrampis there a xorgconfig like prog in ubuntu to get an xorg.conf like when you finish a fresh install?03:35
cafuegocpl-tnt900: Dapper has built-in support for it (acx)03:35
cafuegocpl-tnt900: In breezy, you need ndiswrapper.03:35
cpl-tnt900can u be more specific since im new to this envirement03:35
hou5tonInstaller36:  right ... but if you plug that back in, AND have the wireless working as well, you get nothing.  Windows will let you do that ... it doesn't care ... but Ubuntu won't.03:35
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nickrudubuntulin, so, sudo apt-get remove memtest86+ (although I can't think of reason for doing that)03:36
MunchkinguyI'm having trouble setting up my printer in Dapper03:36
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cpl-tnt900cafuego talk in privet...03:36
cafuegocpl-tnt900: The next Ubuntu version supports it out of the box. The version you run now needs  window driver and an ugly hack to make it work, since d-link aren't interested in providing a Linux driver.03:36
hou5tonInstaller36:  so .... you have to tell Ubuntu which one you are using, AND ...if the other one is actually  hooked up and working, then deactivate it03:36
nickrudMunchkinguy, ask in #ubuntu+103:36
Installer36hou5ton ..I just thought there was something I could put in to a file to automatically say eth1 up when the wireless card is in03:36
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hou5tonInstaller36:  there might be .... don't know about that03:36
Installer36hou5ton...thank you03:37
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hou5tonInstaller36:  My wireless is internal and on all the time ... but in some locations if I have the cable plugged in, I don't want it to use the wireless03:38
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Installer36hou5ton...so you have to go to system,admin,networking to deactivate or can you do it threw the terminal03:39
cpl-tnt900 ndiswrapper ? i ran a search on google what exsacly should i be looking for if i wanna install a wireless lan ?03:39
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hou5tonInstaller36:  I right-click on the icon that is in the Gnome bar at the top of my screen ... and select properties03:40
Installer36thats quicker03:40
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fiendskull9halayjalughia, just finished KynixChat! anyone wanna beta test it? (tell me if this shouldnt be in here)03:42
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Installer36cpl-tnt900 ...IAM USING THAT CARD WITHOUT NDISWRAPPER03:42
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Installer36sorry caps03:42
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goudkovhi guys, in what package is the configure script located?03:43
Sivikwhich configure script are you referring to?03:44
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goudkovas in configure make make install03:44
hyphenatedgoudkov: it's not part of a package. most programs have their own one as part of the source code03:44
cpl-tnt900installer36 : i see wireless lan i have dhcp but i cant get it to run why !?03:45
amphigoudkov: the configure script should be in the tarball03:45
goudkovhyphenated: oh yeah, found i. thanks.03:45
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johntrampis there a way to generate a new xorg.conf?03:45
hyphenatedjohntramp: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:46
Installer36cpl-tnt900...try in a terminal ...sudo ifconfig eth1 up...03:46
ciplogicnalioth: deleting and recreate the partitions fix the name :)03:46
johntramphyphenated, thanks03:46
naliothciplogic: fix what?03:46
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the_guy1were do you find firefox safe mode03:46
ciplogicthe bad name in gnome03:46
ciplogicI used gparted to do so03:47
hondadarrellanyone know any good data cd burning apps for ubunut?03:47
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ciplogicyes: gnometoaster03:47
hyphenatedhondadarrell: I use k3b because it's pretty03:47
fiendskull9hondadarrell, gnomebaker, k3b03:47
fiendskull9i reccomend k3b03:47
ciplogicgnomebaker :P03:47
nickrudhondadarrell, Places->CD/DVD creator?03:47
N2DIYHow can I install on a labtop, that won't boot from a cdrom, and doesn't have a floppy drive?03:48
hondadarrellI use gnome. does k3b work on gnome?03:48
cpl-tnt900installer36 : i get , no such device msg03:48
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Installer36cpl-tnt900...what do you get with iwconfig03:48
ciplogichondadarell: use gnomebacker else03:48
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hyphenatedhondadarrell: yes, or you could just use gnomebaker03:48
the_guy1there should be a boot from cd in your bios03:49
ciplogichondadarell: k3b looks like Nero and gnomebaker looks as NeroExpress03:49
AnsiCi have installed binutils-static03:49
N2DIYno boot from cd option03:49
AnsiCbut i do not see binutils installed into /usr/bin03:49
the_guy1no clue03:49
cpl-tnt900i get : lo no wireless extension , same for sit0 , in wlan0 i get iee802.11b essid : linksys etc...03:49
nickrudand nautilus looks like a place you just drag & drop to. For simple data disks, it's the easiest03:50
AnsiCroot@hostname:/bin# whereis ar03:50
AnsiCar:03:50
Installer36cpl-tnt900...was the card in at boot up03:50
cpl-tnt900yeah...03:50
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cpl-tnt900should i try reboot ?03:50
the_guy1when all else fales reboot03:50
cpl-tnt900yeah the card was on the boot but i think it false...03:50
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cpl-tnt900rebooting...03:51
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ZeroFrozenhello03:52
Installer36cpl-tnt900..with "lspci"...do you have ... Network controller: Linksys ADMtek ADM8211 802.11b Wireless Interface (rev 11)03:52
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Pupbuntuhi, i have ubuntu on my laptop.  every time i close the lid, the screensaver comes on.  that's fine.  the problem is, it demands a password before letting me back into the session, which is really redundant for me.  is there a way to turn that off?03:53
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goudkovin what package can i find zlib? configure gives me "configure: error: You must have zlib installed!"?03:54
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sethkgoudkov, configuring what?03:55
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goudkovsethk: mutella03:55
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sethkgoudkov, I think that's the devel for gzip03:55
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goudkovsethk: do you know the name of the package? i can't find which one to install03:56
goudkovgzip-dev or something like that?03:56
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Iceman_Anyone know a url where a person might get NeXTSTEP or OPENSTEP operating system ... ISO ?03:56
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sethkgoudkov, I'm not sure it's a package with that name, I think it's in one of the utility packages03:56
sethkgoudkov, not much help, sorry, but I do recognize it03:57
goudkovsethk: ok, thanks03:57
majdHi, i have a couple of mp3's that won't play03:58
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Xenguyfolks, I am trying for the first time to backup a dvd with the 'k3b' tool, and unfortunately I am getting the error 'Cannot copy encrypted DVDs'.  Is there a way around this, or do I need to find another tool besides 'k3b' ?03:58
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cpl-tnt900installer36 : i rebooted now the card is off...03:59
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Installer36lspci... Network controller: Linksys ADMtek ADM8211 802.11b Wireless Interface (rev 11)04:00
Installer36...is that present04:00
ZeroFrozeni dwlded and installed the ubuntu 5.10 IA64 (for an athlon 64) and everything freeze while i boot (it seems random, sometimes while loading modules, sometimes when it sets the rtc, and other times it boots ok) where can i look for error message, or how do i suppress the graphical boot?04:00
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sethkZeroFrozen, try booting to run level 104:00
nickrudIceman_, gnustep is already available from ubuntu, try apt-cache search gnustep04:00
sethkZeroFrozen, look in /var/log/messages04:00
intelikeyXenguy can't you dd if=/dev/your-dvd-reader of=image.file and then burn the file to disk  ?    haven't done that with dvd myself, i don't have a dvd drive.04:00
sethkdo ls -ltr /var/log, see what else was written in /var/log04:00
Installer36cpl-tnt900...lspci.... Network controller: Linksys ADMtek ADM8211 802.11b Wireless Interface (rev 11)04:01
Installer36...is my card04:01
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cpl-tnt900myn is D-link DWL650+ with WRT54G router04:01
dougiefreshgreetings, is there a security.ubuntu.org like ther eis for debian?04:01
cpl-tnt900?04:01
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Xenguyintelikey: not sure, but I'll add that to my list of ideas.  I would have thought that k3b would allow this somehow (it is very nice software in general)04:02
Installer36type lspci in term04:02
ZeroFrozensethk, ok, i'm going to look04:02
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intelikeydougiefresh yes there is security repos   for system updates.04:02
dougiefreshcan you tell me what it is?04:02
cpl-tnt900ok i typed04:02
cpl-tnt900what should i look for ?04:02
intelikeyXenguy i agree.   clone copy maybe04:02
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Installer36To make sure the cards are the same.... Network controller: Linksys ADMtek ADM8211 802.11b Wireless Interface (rev 11)04:03
Xenguyintelikey: hrm, worth a try04:03
Sivikwhen i upgrade from brezzy to dapper, will it mess up my GUI04:03
cpl-tnt900nope ! he writes network controller : Texas Instrument : Unknow Device 040004:03
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majdI get this when i try to unmount windows04:03
majdumount: /media/hda1: device is busy04:03
intelikeySivik probably04:03
majdhow can i stop it?04:03
nickrudSivik, no, it'll just add some nicer stuff04:03
Siviknickrud: k04:04
nickrudintelikey, eye of the viewer :)04:04
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hyphenatedmajd: uh.. whafor? that's probably your root partition04:04
cpl-tnt900the card is PCMCIA installer46 @04:04
cpl-tnt900*3604:04
intelikeynickrud well most people call it "messed up" when they have to reconfigure things04:04
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N2DIYhow can I play DVDs, I removed Totem-gstreamer, installed Totem-xine and it complained about not having libdvdcss, I installed that, and it is still complaining about it?04:04
Installer36mine is a Dlink DWL650 ...so they have different chipset....you will probably need the ndiswrapper...sorry.04:04
cpl-tnt900can u explain how do i do this ?04:05
majdhyphenated, it's windows04:05
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majdsudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=022204:05
majdthis won't run04:05
majdmount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /media/windows/ busy04:05
majdmount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is mounted on /media/hda104:05
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Installer36No I bought cards till one worked..lol...Iam new to this..04:05
hyphenatedmajd: ah. cd /, then run it again04:05
intelikeymajd close everything that is accessint the mount   then umount it    man fuser04:06
nickrudmajd, sudo umount /dev/hda1 , then run that mount command again04:06
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Installer36Someone here will be able to help04:06
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ajaychi guys!!!04:06
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nickrudsorry hyphenated didn't realize you were on it04:07
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ajaycubuntu install cd wont detect my laptops cdrom any ideas?04:07
DiablituxHello!!! I don't speak in english :( my question is about an error in mysql-admin. I do clic in "user administration" and the windows it's freezed04:07
nickrudajayc, buy a new laptop /runs04:07
Diablituxhelp me please!!!04:07
nickrudDiablitux, language?04:08
DiablituxI don't add usser in mysql04:08
dougiefresh5.10 is breezy correct?04:08
cpl-tnt900does any one know how to run ndiswapper ?04:08
Diablituxspanish04:08
N2DIYajayc, my laptop won't boot from the cd, I'm trying to figure out where the install file is, no joy yet.04:08
nickrud!es04:08
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:08
Diablituxin dapper beta04:08
ajaycnickrud, well why dont u give me one?04:08
nickrudajayc, soon as I get mine, and the next, it's in the mail :)04:08
ajaycN2DIY, though 4.10 boots damn fine04:08
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ajaycis 4.10 good?04:09
N2DIYajayc, hmm, I have 5.10, and it is my first time playing with Ubuntu. I managed to get FC3 on the laptop.04:09
Diablituxhelp me please!!!04:09
steve_laptopDiablitux: what is it04:10
_jasonDiablitux: type this to get help in spanish: /join #ubuntu-es04:10
cpl-tnt900installer36 now he writes Network Controller: Texas Instruments ACX 100 22MBps Wireless Interface04:10
intelikeyDiablitux> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.    si  /join #edubuntu-es04:10
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DiablituxI have type in this channel, but no request :(04:10
nickrudajayc, seriously though, 4.10 (warty) install boots, but the 5.10 (breezy) doesn't?04:10
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ajaycyes nickrud04:11
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cpl-tnt900how do i activate wireless lan !?04:11
Installer36cpl-tnt900 ...if you get no wireless with the command..iwconfig...it is beyond me04:11
steve_laptopDiablitux: /join #xxxxx  will work04:11
nickrudajayc, are you sure you have a good iso? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IsoVerifyHowto will walk you through that04:11
cpl-tnt900ok no wireless in what !?04:12
cpl-tnt900in wlan !?04:12
majdTotem returns this error: This is an audio-only file, and there is no audio output available.04:12
majdwhere's the problem?04:12
cpl-tnt900he writes The interface wlan0 is active : WIRELESS CONNECTION04:12
dagercpl-tnt900: does running "iwconfig" show any detected wirelessness?04:12
cpl-tnt900its just i cant get it to surf04:12
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intelikeymajd totem not configured to use  esd ?04:12
N2DIYwhat version of totem, gstreamer? Totem-xine is recommended.04:13
cpl-tnt900lo shows no wireless and sir0 shows no wireless but lan0 shows wireless04:13
intelikey!vlc04:13
ubotuI heard vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)04:13
majdintelikey, what's esd?04:13
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toMte83ais it possible to c how much one process takes in cpu  (%) Like in windows Xp when u hit ctrl+alt+del ??? would be intresting04:13
intelikey!esd04:13
cpl-tnt900installer 36 :lo shows no wireless and sir0 shows no wireless but lan0 shows wireless04:13
dagercpl-tnt900: make sure you set up dhcp on lan0 if it's required, and all relevant passkeys, then ifconfig your wireless connection up04:14
nickrudTom39Away, top in a terminal04:14
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cpl-tnt900dager : got no relevet passkey all open on the router...04:14
dagercpl-tnt900: do "ifconfig lan0 up"04:14
cpl-tnt900dhcp is on auto ... should i manual it ?04:14
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dagercpl-tnt900: see if that works.. if not, do "dhcpcd lan0" or whatever the command is04:15
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N2DIYHow can I manually start the install off of the CD?04:15
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cpl-tnt900nope not working04:16
cpl-tnt900and im new i dunno the commands i try going to system >> NETWORKING and set it there ?04:16
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majdis there a way to change the options of my hda1 mount so that i can copy files from it to my desktop? hda1 is my windows mount04:16
dagercpl-tnt900: go for it, normally dhcp is the extent of my problems, but i'd imagine an interface is suitable for solving such problems04:17
intelikeymajd sure.04:17
intelikey!ntfs04:17
ubotumethinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions04:17
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ajay_back04:17
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ajay_so what to do?04:17
cpl-tnt900dager : so what should i do ? it recognize the wireless network i pressed activate and its activated...04:17
dagercpl-tnt900: try and get online with it, i guess04:18
N2DIYajay, where you ajayc?04:18
cpl-tnt900got online and nothing ...04:18
intelikeymajd basicly mount it fmask=2 umask=2  iirc04:18
ajay_N2DIY, s04:18
N2DIYs?04:18
majdintelikey, so "/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,fmask=2 umask=2        0       0"04:19
toMte83ahmm ... try again...  anyone who know if its possible to c the CPU % for all running processes anywhere?04:19
majdin my fstab file?04:19
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intelikeycomma not space between but yeah majd04:20
majdtoMte83a, top04:20
csixty4toMte83a: top, then shift-P to sort by % CPU04:20
N2DIYtoMte83a, run top in a terminal.04:20
ajay_yes04:20
ajay_N2DIY, what do i do?04:20
majdintelikey, would i need to restart the computer?04:20
intelikeyxtop ?04:20
ajay_upgrade from 4.10?04:21
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intelikeymajd no.  just umount and mount the drive.04:21
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twystedis there a good FAQ on setting up a mailserver on ubuntu04:21
intelikeythis is not micro-reboot_windows....04:21
N2DIYajay_, we need to find the file that starts the install, I've looked and can't find it, thought someone here would know?04:21
majdintelikey, but see, the problem is i can't unmount windows.....it says it's busy04:21
majdi tried what you suggested earlier04:22
toMte83amajd csixty4 N2DIY : Cool, thanks... =)04:22
ajay_N2DIY, nobody here know that?04:22
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twystedmajd type cd / and try unmounting it if ANYTHING is using ANYTHING on that drive itll show as busy, even if its just a open window04:22
intelikeymajd like i said use  fuser and find what is accessing it, kill it.  then umount.   man fuser04:22
ZeroFrozenmajd, try "lsof | grep /media/windows" to see what's making it busy04:22
N2DIYajay_, which file on the CD will start the install.04:22
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ajay_N2DIY, dunno04:22
Installer36cpl-tnt900 what do you mean got online and nothing04:23
ajay_N2DIY, its not workin on ur lappy too04:23
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majdok04:24
majdi'll try04:24
N2DIYajay_, roger my bios won't boot from the CD.04:24
intelikeyN2DIY the init[rd,ramfs] .img  in  the dir with the kernel that it boots04:24
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N2DIYintelikey, any idea what dir. that's in?04:25
ajay_well N2DIY in my case it boots from cd and after selecting language it says cdrom not found select manually04:25
intelikeyboot maybe ?04:25
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warysnayhello04:25
intelikeyi'll look    give me a sec N2DIY04:25
warysnayhowdy?04:25
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warysnaydominicans here?04:26
N2DIYintelikey, standing buy.04:26
ajay_N2DIY, atleast tell me how do u upgrade 4.10?04:26
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cpl-tnt900gn all try again tommorow ..04:26
_jason!upgradehoary04:26
ubotu_jason: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:27
swandoes anyone how to fix this apt-get error:        The following has unmet dependencies:  lib32gcc1: depends: gcc-4.0-base (=4.0.3-1ubuntu4) but have 4.0.3-1ubuntu5??04:27
ajay_well what size it is?04:27
GigaCloni think im missing man pages04:27
_jason!upgrade2hoary04:27
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _jason04:27
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N2DIYajay_, I didn't it is a FC3 box, I had to run rawwrite and a bunch of other stuff to get it installed, took me three days.04:27
_jason!upgrade2hoary04:27
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GigaClon!hoary04:28
intelikeyN2DIY look in isolinux/isolinux.cfg    &   install/initrd.img04:28
ubotuhoary is, like, a word that means grey or ancient.  Shakespeare made a joke about it in his play Romeo and Juliet04:28
ajay__jason, what is the upgrade size?04:28
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_jasonajay_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes04:28
intelikeyerrr  not .img  .gz04:28
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N2DIYintelikey, will do, thanks, copy that ajay_?04:28
jmgubotu: he did?04:28
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jmg04:28
jmg_jason: dont you mean upgrade2breezy? thats the latest stable...04:28
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GigaClonubotu is a bot04:28
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, GigaClon04:28
CSManhello04:28
_jasonjmg: well he has 4.10 now so he has to upgrade to hary first04:29
CSMani'm trying to mount a samba share that has filenames in korean04:29
_jasonhoary04:29
CSManno luck so far04:29
jmgah04:29
jmg4.10 eek04:29
GigaClonim missing the man page to mount04:29
intelikeyback in a few.04:29
jmgwhat release was 4.10?04:29
twysted_jason you should be able to upgrade straight to breezy04:29
jmgtwysted: no04:29
blindGigaClon, "man mount" doesn't do anything for you?04:29
_jasonjmg: warty warthog04:29
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twystedive done it before =S04:30
jmgtwysted: upgrades are only supported to the next release04:30
GigaClonmount --help say to do man 8 mount04:30
_jasontwysted: yes, it's safer though04:30
jmgtwysted: it might work but not safe as jason says04:30
swandoes anyone how to fix this apt-get error:        The following has unmet dependencies:  lib32gcc1: depends: gcc-4.0-base (=4.0.3-1ubuntu4) but have 4.0.3-1ubuntu5??04:30
ajay_well i gotta do that cos the damn 5.10 install cd says it cant find the cdrom04:30
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_jasonswan: are you on dapper?04:30
GigaClonblind, that doesn't work04:30
swan_jason: yeah04:30
jmg_jason: simply change from warty to hoary in sources.list, then:04:30
_jasonswan: please use #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions04:30
blindwhat doesn't work, GigaClon ? "man mount" gives me the manual page...04:31
jmg_jason: apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade04:31
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GigaClonand when I follow the undocumented directions it can't find that either04:31
GigaClonblind, man mount04:31
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Sivikanyone here use the bcm43xx wireless drivers?04:31
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ajay_well please help me guys i want to sort this damn thing out today itself04:31
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cafuegoSivik: lots of people do. just ask your question.04:32
_jasonajay_: what are you trying to do?04:32
Sivikdo the firmware that comes with dipper work?04:32
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blindlol GigaClon I just did a man mount > mount ... so i have it in a text file if you'd like me to give it to you :P04:32
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GigaClonwell you know how i can fix it04:32
blindI don't.04:32
ajay__jason, well see i am not on ubuntu , 5.10 cd wont recognize my cdrom and i can install 4.1004:32
cafuegoSivik: Yes04:32
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cafuegoSivik: Well, no firmware comes with dapper, but the one referenced on the wiki works.04:33
_jasonajay_: have you tried a different cd? verified the cd works on another computer?04:33
bintuthello all...04:33
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csixty4_Sivik: What wireless card are you using?04:33
Sivikbcm4318 AirForce ver 0204:34
ajay_yes _jason04:34
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bintuti'm using a laptop here right now.. was it the cpufreqd that automatically set my cpu half of its mhz when unused?04:34
GigaClonajay_, you can try an upgrade from warty to brezzy but its not recommened04:34
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GigaClonajay_, just replace hoary with breezy in those directions04:34
_jasonajay_: weird, just do warty > hoary upgrade and then hoary > breezy by following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes and then http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.04:34
ajay_well what do i do then04:34
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Sivikcsixty4?04:35
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domswere i can find my install package repo04:35
csixty4_Sivik: according to the bcm43xx-dev mailing list, 4318 support is broken (https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/bcm43xx-dev/2006-March/001555.html)04:35
domslike a cache04:35
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domswere is the exact directory of that04:35
CoirUpon booting, Ubuntu shows the following: (\ = line break) dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN\ /XFDISC1.I00\ File Size is 0 bytes, cluster chain length is04:36
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csixty4_I was up all night trying to get my 4311 working, and ran across that message04:36
cafuegoSivik: Yes, I've only tested on bcm4306 hardware, can't help you with anything else.04:36
Coirerr...04:36
Siviki understand thats its broken, but i have it working in redhat but was wondering if the firmware is already install, if it worked04:36
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GigaCloncan anyone help me with my missing man pages04:36
GigaClonI don't seem to have any at all04:36
CoirUpon booting, Ubuntu shows the following: (\ = line break) dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN\ /XFDISC1.I00\ File Size is 0 bytes, cluster chain length is Upon booting, Dapper shows the following: (\ = line break) dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN\ /XFDISC1.I00\ File Size is 0 bytes, cluster chain length is Upon booting, Dapper shows the following: (\ = line break) dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN\ /XFDISC1.I00\ File Size is 0 byt04:36
Coires, cluster chain length is Upon booting, Dapper shows the following: (\ = line break) dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN\ /XFDISC1.I00\ File Size is 0 bytes, cluster chain length is Upon booting, Dapper shows the following: (\ = line break) dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN\ /XFDISC1.I00\ File Size is 0 bytes, cluster chain length is Upon booting, Dapper shows the following: (\ = line break) dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN\ /XFD04:36
CoirISC1.I00\ File Size is 0 bytes, cluster chain length is04:36
Coireeps04:36
_jason!paste04:36
ubotuPlease don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL04:36
Coirmy apologies for that.04:36
nickrudGigaClon, man man shows nothing?04:37
GigaClonyes04:37
GigaClonNo manual entry for man04:37
GigaClonSee 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not available.04:38
GigaClonthat doesn't exist either04:38
blindweird.04:38
_nano_anyone with a radeon7500 graphics card here?04:38
domswere i can locate my package cache in my file directory04:38
CoirCan someone help me with this error I am encountering upon boot of Ubuntu? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1291004:38
domswere i can locate my package cache in my file directory04:38
Sivikcsixty: i understand that its broken, but i was wondering if i really needed to reinstall the firmware if its already installed in dapper04:38
domswere i can locate my package cache in my file directory04:38
nickrudis manpages installed? that is, dpkg -l manpages shows ii04:38
ajay_HELP MEE04:39
nickruddoms, /var/cache/apt/archives04:39
domsthanks04:39
GigaClonwhat ajay_ ?04:39
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Sivikwhat is the issue there ajay?04:39
_jasonajay_: what is the problem?04:39
ajay_the issue is i cant get UBUNTU working on my acer laptop04:39
Sivikwhat part of it can't you get working?04:39
_jasonajay_: is this different than your upgrading issue?04:39
Sivikis it a xorg issues?04:40
twystedis there a good FAQ on setting up a mailserver on ubuntu ? anyone?04:40
intelikeyGigaClon mandb ?04:40
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codecaineim try to code in c++ but it says no such file as stdio.h04:40
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GigaClon!build04:40
ubotuIf you want to build software, you need the build-essential package to start with04:40
Coirv_v04:41
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intelikeycodecaine !b-e04:41
_jasoncodecaine: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'04:41
nickrudtwysted, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postifx04:41
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codecainety04:41
GigaClonintelikey, mandb does not show up in Synaptic04:41
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Milk_anyone here have experiance with joysticks in cedega.. no one is answering over there04:42
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_nano_Hi..my installation doesn't seem to have 3d support ...my xorg.conf : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12911 .. please help me out here :(04:42
CoirHow is aptitude install dif. from apt-get install? Does it pop-up a gui or something?04:42
_nano_my tuxcart doesn't move :|04:42
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Sivikwhat video card nano04:43
_nano_radeon 750004:43
_nano_i searched my wits out on google...04:43
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_nano_all they say is that ati has no support for cards below radeo 9000 :|04:43
nickrudCoir, aptitude keeps track of packages that were installed in support of packages you requested; if the package you requested is removed, aptitude will remove the support packages. apt-get will not.04:43
_jasonCoir: aptitude will remember what dependencies got install along with a package04:43
Sivikcan't hep you nano, i still having problems getting my ati to work04:43
Coirooo04:43
RobyXMy friend wants to know why LInux is better then MS, is there like a list of reasons somewhere?04:43
_nano_Sivik, what's your FPS?04:43
codecaineim using anjuta ide is there any others recommended?04:43
SimplyFlowerhello04:44
_nano_Sivik, what kinda card do you have?04:44
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Sivikradeon xpress 200 m04:44
_jasonRobyX: for some MS may be better, it depends on the individual04:44
Siviki can't even get it to work with the ati drivers in it04:44
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_nano_Sivik, and FPS? could you play tuxcart? :P04:44
nickrudRobyX, there are all sorts of comparisons on the net, some show better one way or another, depending on need. But, by definition, free is better :)04:44
CoirCan someone help me with this error I am encountering upon boot of Ubuntu? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1291004:45
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Sivikno, my GUI doesn't work with the ati stuff in it04:45
roe!mp304:45
ubotuit has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:45
_nano_Sivik, that's sad :|04:45
nickrudCoir, how are you booting ubuntu, I've never seen a dosfsck04:46
CoirI was using GRUB04:46
Siviki installed via the flglx install04:46
Sivikapt-get flglx or whatever it is04:46
CoirBut, I had my /home setup on a different drive from my /04:46
CoirSo do you think that might make it a bit weird?04:46
_nano_Sivik, yeah from what i gathered flglx doesn't support my card atleast04:46
nickrudCoir, did you try installing ubuntu onto a fat32?04:46
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CoirNo.04:46
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nickrudor your home on a fat32?04:46
Coirnope04:46
Sivikwhich radeon is it04:46
Coirext3 =P04:46
_nano_Sivik, radeon 750004:47
Sivikits too old04:47
nickrudCoir, so, that can't be the whole error :)04:47
Sivikyou have to have the 9200 first04:47
CoirI have a fat32 partition..04:47
Coirbut it's just mounted as media04:47
_nano_Sivik, I know :( ...it's a laptop...replacing graphics card is a pain :|04:47
Siviknot really04:47
Siviki replaced a one in  dell 7600 yesterday04:47
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GigaClonintelikey, i can't find "mandb" in the d-pkg list or synaptic04:47
_nano_Sivik, in case i go for replacement...which one would you recommend?04:47
nothow can you alter resolution if a friend of yours skipped the instellation step involving which resolutions you can have?04:48
Sivikgo nvidia if you can04:48
_jasonGigaClon: man-db04:48
intelikeyCoir your fstab specify that vfat partition  to be checked at boot ?    also of note.   the file XFDISC1.I00 should probably be rm'd04:48
_nano_Sivik, thanks for the info...i'll see if I can afford a replacement04:48
Sivikyw04:48
Coirintelikey, well, the system wouldn't boot...04:48
GigaClonits installed, reinstalling....04:49
SimplyFlowercan somebody please help me... how do i get ubuntu to recognize my ethernet connection?04:49
intelikeyGigaClon which release are you using ?  dapper ?04:49
sybaritenanyone here running lighttpd ?04:49
GigaClonbreezy04:49
intelikey!info mandb breezy04:49
GigaClonno dice04:50
_jason!info man-db04:50
ubotuman-db: (The on-line manual pager), section doc, is standard. Version: 2.4.3-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 579 kB, Installed size: 1628 kB04:50
nickrudGigaClon, you probably have problems in your /etc/apt/sources.list if man-db isn't shown in dpkg -l04:50
GigaClonits there04:50
intelikeyGigaClon there ya go  ^04:50
GigaClonand installed04:50
GigaClonbut it still doesn't work04:50
_jasonGigaClon: ls /usr/share/man/man1/man.1.gz04:50
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sybaritensomeone on the forum has written a howto on installing lighttpd. He says it more or less "needs" dapper. I have that other install, that came before. Are there any chances for me ?04:51
GigaClon_jason,  its there04:51
sybaritenif i do apt-cache search lighthttpd i get nil04:51
_jasonGigaClon: and man man says it can't find the file?04:51
GigaClonbut man man is not working04:51
nickrudls /usr/bin/man?04:52
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GigaClonwhen i type cd /usr/bin/man04:52
GigaClonit don't exist04:52
eggzeckwtf, my monitor just went "poff (off)" then "poof on"! And the color is getting messed up04:52
rob138is there anyway to get to my computer that is on my schools network that is not pingable from the internet?04:52
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_jasonGigaClon: it's a file, don't cd it04:52
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nickrudGigaClon, man is a file, you can't cd to it. but ls /usr/bin/man should give you something04:53
N2DIYintelikey, there is no /install/initrd.img on the cd, and /isolinux/isolinux.cfg just display the file contents.04:53
_jasonGigaClon: while you are there, get the output for 'manpath' too04:53
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GigaClonahh04:53
nickrudman is so basic, I think I've forgotten nearly all of it04:53
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GigaClonit pointing in my home dir04:53
_jasonGigaClon: what is?04:54
GigaClonmanpath04:54
GigaClonmanpath: warning: $MANPATH set, ignoring /etc/manpath.config04:54
GigaClon/home/gigaclon/.local/share/man04:54
nickrudGigaByte_, whoa, there you are04:54
sybaritencan i somehow check how big an apache install witll be, with apt ?04:54
_jasonGigaClon: clear MANPATH I guess04:54
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nickrudGigaClon, echo $MANPATH04:55
rukuarticHehe... curious thing just happened. X crashed, but restarted on tty8 instead of tty704:55
GigaClon/home/gigaclon/.local/share/man04:55
rukuarticAnd now tty7 is just a black box with a cursor, not even a bash prompt. Anyone have ideas?04:55
nickrudhm, what's a good find for MANPATH04:55
rukuarticnickrud: whereis?04:56
_jasonnickrud: can't we just do export MANPATH=     ?04:56
nickrudrukuartic, but why was GigaClon 's different from the default?04:56
_jasonGigaClon: if you start a new shell does man still not work?04:56
rukuarticI dunno, I dun like him. He's got shifty eyes. Oh wait I mean, no clue nickrud04:56
nickrudrukuartic, heh. Been here, done this :)04:57
GigaClonyeah04:57
rukuarticnickrud: man man? maybe?04:57
rukuarticnickrud: Or can you not access that... lol...04:57
nickrudrukuartic, been there, done that :)04:57
rob138is there anyway to get to my computer that is on my schools network that is not pingable from the internet?04:57
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N2DIYrob138, ssh.04:58
_jasonGigaClon: what kind of stuff were you doing before this happened?04:58
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nickrudI've gone five years without learning find, I'm hoping someone will come up with a find/grep that locates all MANPATH defs04:58
GigaClonI have never been able to get man pages04:58
GigaClonthat I can recall04:58
intelikey!info mtr-tiny04:58
ubotumtr-tiny: (Full screen ncurses traceroute tool), section net, is standard. Version: 0.69-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 32 kB, Installed size: 100 kB04:58
rukuarticrob138: Yeah, I use ssh too. Great thing. :D "sudo apt-get install openssh-client open-sshserver"04:58
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rukuarticAnyone have any clues about my previous mentioned problem?04:59
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_jasonGigaClon: well we have to figure out what is setting MANPATH... I would start grepping files :)04:59
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nickrudrukuartic, /etc/init.d/gdm restart ?05:00
_jasonGigaClon: grep MANPATH ~/.*, might be worth a try05:00
rukuarticnickrud: Well thats the odd thing... Xorg runs on f8 but not f7 now.05:00
rob138rukartic, N2DIY, thats what i use, i think its awesome, but everytime connection times out05:00
chip42my harddrive goes into sleep mode far too often. how do you set how many ms before it spins down? seems like it is always spinning up every few seconds :\05:00
rukuarticnickrud: f7 is just a blank screen. tried "startx" etc, its just a big box to type stuff and hit enter05:00
GigaClongrep: /home/gigaclon/.gnome-system-monitor.gigaclon: No such device or address05:00
rob138like my computer isn't visable05:00
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GigaClonthats what I got05:01
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intelikey            debfoster  is kewl   :)05:01
rukuarticrob138: What types of connections are you on?05:01
nickrudrukuartic, the only reason X would start on 8 (that I know of) is X is already active on 7, and you've started another instance05:01
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rob138the computer i am trying to connect to is on a dorm lan, and it's ip adress btw is 147.222.178.28 to see if you can ping/connect to it05:01
juztinwhen i upgrade to dapper, will i lose my current setup and have to start all over again (my menus, desktop, home dir, etc)?05:01
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rob138rukartic,05:01
N2DIYrob138, sounds like the server ip address changed on you?05:01
_jasonGigaClon: see if it happens with a new user05:02
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SimplyFlowerplease help... can't connect to the internet with ubuntu05:02
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NickGarveywould cd .. be going up a directory or going down a directory?05:02
Dr_Willisup05:02
rob138N2DIY, that is my IP adress for sure05:02
nickrudup05:02
Dr_Willisbash 101 :P05:02
rukuarticnickrud: Heh... it actually didn't. Its weird.05:02
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NickGarveythank you05:03
juztindoes anyone know if, when i upgrade to dapper, i will lose my current setup and have to start all over again (my menus, desktop, home dir, etc)?05:03
rukuarticrob138: So you're connecting on an intranet?05:03
Dr_Willisthe idea of going 'down' implies you are changing to a given dir.. not the generic 'parent'05:03
rukuarticrob138: Or an internet?05:03
NickGarveythats what I thought but someone said something that didn't make sense ;)05:03
N2DIYSimplyFlower, what are you trying to connect with, evolution? Find the work online icon, and click that.05:03
_jasonjuztin: should keep them05:03
juztinsweet05:03
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juztincuz i just spent two hours writing my fluxbox menu :P05:03
Dr_Willisjuztin,  i often keep  home on a seperate partition. to make it easier.05:03
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SimplyFlowerunbuntu doesn't recognize my ethernet connection at all05:03
Dr_Willisjuztin,  backup the files :)05:03
juztinok :)05:03
nickrudrukuartic, I'd really look into seeing if there's an active X you're missing05:04
sybariteni have a server version of ubuntu, the breezy i think ..... is it possible to "upgrade" it to dapper ? is it a big project ?05:04
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juztinthx Dr_Willis, _jason05:04
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intelikeynickrud  <nickrud> rukuartic, the only reason X would start on 8 (that I know of) is X is already active on 7, and you've started another instance <--- actually  x starts on the first avalable tty  thus if you only have one login tty setup and haven't opened any other ttys startx will start on tty2   conversly wise   if you had 30 ttys open and did startx it would start on tty3105:04
N2DIYSimplyFlower, a that is a hardware issue, I'm on dialup, so I can't help you.05:04
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rob138rukuartic, i believe intranet (it's a school building's LAN, through ethernet, if that helps)05:04
godhow can i install tinyx05:05
Centaur5I get an ip from my router and I can ping it but I can't ping other computers or browse the net. In network-admin it won't save the default gateway.  How can I fix this?05:05
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nickrudintelikey, ah, point to you. I'm brainwashed :)05:05
rukuarticrob138: Yep, you're right. So you get a connection, but it keeps dropping? What port are you using?05:05
biovoregod: your god.. figure it out :-P (know clue here)05:05
Dr_Willis!info tinyx05:05
Deterministany of you guys know of anything similar to yakuake for gnome? i really like this app and i would want to use it on gnome05:05
SimplyFlowerN2DIY: thanks anyway05:05
godi wish05:05
biovorelolz05:05
biovoreI don't think its a package in ubuntu.. would have to build from source05:05
nickrudgod, you never changed your nick?05:06
Dr_Willisgod,  if its not in the repos.. i guess ya sould to to the programs homepage.. and start reading.05:06
rob138rukuartic, i cannot get a connection is my problem, i cannot ssh 147.222.178.28 unless i am connected on the same LAN05:06
rukuarticrob138: Yeah. Its going to be difficult to telnet to your computer from anywhere else but from inside the intranet. Have you successfully connected from outside before?05:06
N2DIYrob138, that makes sense, sound like you can't get through the firewall.05:07
goddont make me zap you with 10000000000000000volts the site dosent seem to have a howto05:07
intelikey<nickrud> intelikey, ah, point to you. I'm brainwashed :)  <--- hehhe  a clean mind is a good thing  :)05:07
rukuarticrob138: In order to connect to your computer, you'd need the root router (the one that distributes internet to the campus) to directly redirect all SSH connections to your computer05:07
nickrudintelikey, that's a fault I cannot claim, a clean mind05:07
Dr_Willishow unfortunate.05:07
intelikey:)05:07
nickrudthe longer you live, the crustier the ring05:08
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rob138rukuartic, N2DIY, so it's probably impossible for me to?05:08
ramza3anybody know why they changed xchat, this gnome-xchat sucks05:08
GigaClon_jason, a new user can access man man05:08
nickrudramza3, you can get xchat back, it's in universe05:08
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_jasonGigaClon: ok, that narrow down your search to your home directory05:09
stone61hi all05:09
rukuarticrob138: Not quite sure. Try contacting your sysadmin, see if he has any solutions. Or try a few different ports.05:09
nickrudramza3, but that's a #dapper+1 question05:09
ramza3nickrud: you remember the name?05:09
rukuartichi stone6105:09
stone61i cannot login as admin05:09
N2DIYrob138, not impossible, but I don't know how to crack a firewall.05:09
nickrudramza3, xchat :)05:09
rukuarticstone61: You mean "root"?05:09
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stone61sorry wrong chat05:09
_jasonGigaClon: grep MANPATH .[^g] *05:09
rob138rukuartic, but that IP adress is not even pingable from outside the network, so using a different port wouldnt work right?05:09
stone61its kjoomla i cannot log in05:09
ramza3nickrud, I am getting rid of this garbage05:09
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stone61thx bye05:09
_jasonGigaClon: make sure you use caps05:09
stone61i stay05:09
stone61and listen and learn05:10
_jasonGigaClon: should have said: grep MANPATH ~/.[^g] *05:10
chip42rob138: the machine could be there and ignoring the pings. using a different port might work, provided the machine is actually there05:10
nickrudramza3, I tripped over that one so bad, I bitched before I fixed my sources. I felt stupid :)05:10
vaaXhow do you register a name on irc?05:10
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_jason!register05:10
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration05:10
rukuarticrob138: No, they have the router set to be not pingable to prevent from attacks. I can't ping my own router, but I can still connect to it. Thing is, I say "forward all port 22" (thats ssh) "to 192.168.1.101" (thats my computer)05:10
godhow do you install tinyx05:10
ramza3nickrud, hehe; there are a lot of little changes with dapper that are getting to me05:10
N2DIYrob138, the system is probably set up to ignore pings, to prevent denial of service attacks.05:10
GigaClongrep: /home/gigaclon/.sound-juicer.gigaclon: No such device or address05:10
GigaClon _jason05:10
vaaXhow?05:10
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rukuarticrob138: When the head router at the campus (connected directly to the internet) gets a packet saying "I want to connect to ssh!" the router says "OK! Where do I send it? There's a million computers on campus."05:11
rob138chip42, rukuartic, on the sshd.config file of the computer i am trying to connect to i have added port 2222 to and cannot ssh to that either05:11
nickrudramza3, change is good for the soul, it's bad to get too crusty05:11
ramza3nickrud: we shall see05:11
rukuarticrob138: So you'd need to ask the system administrator to forward one port to your computer. depending on the size of the campus, that may or may not be too hard.05:11
rukuarticrob138: Or possibly he may have a solution for you :P05:11
_jasonGigaClon: heh maybe we should jsut jump straight to find: grep MANPATH ~/.[^sg] *05:11
nickrudramza3, when I get too frustrated, I consider going back to unstable. Then, I consider the upside of sticking, and have.05:11
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SimplyFlowerwhere can i get help a hardware problem?05:12
ramza3nickrud, small quetion, you seem smart; you know how I can get the default terminal to do an automatic copy-paste when I select something05:12
GigaClon/home/gigaclon/.bash_history:grep MANPATH ~/.*05:12
GigaClon _jason05:12
N2DIYSimplyFlower, here, we need to know what the hardware is!05:12
_jasonGigaClon: nothing?05:12
godhow do you install tinyx05:13
sethkN2DIY, it's that stuff with all the wires connected to it05:13
nickrudramza3, select, then middle-button click where you want to paste? works mostly, except where gnome resists05:13
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SimplyFlowerD-Link Ethernet05:13
ramza3nickrud, thanks05:13
sethkSimplyFlower, a bit more detail might help05:13
N2DIYSimplyFlower, model number?05:13
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ramza3uburamza3: hello05:13
sethkSimplyFlower, d-link makes many different cards and products05:13
rob138rukuartic, thanks, don't know if the admin will be helpful, they are assholes here05:13
N2DIYSimplyFlower, that's why a model number helps!05:13
SimplyFlowerD_Link DFE-500TXPCI Fast Ethernet05:14
sybaritenis this information up to date? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP05:14
sybaritenif so, why does the introduction say that mySQL can only be installed by compiling ?05:14
_jasonGigaClon: find ~ -type f -exec grep MANPATH '{}' \;               I think that will work, maybe someone can check me on that?05:14
SimplyFlowerDECchip 21142/4305:14
chip42rob138: probably right about that. if there is access across port 80 or some other standard service, you might be able to setup a tunnel over and achieve the connection you are after.. talking about not letting the admins in on it05:14
sybaritenand why do they install first php4 and then php5 ?05:14
sybaritensame for mySQL? (first 4 then 5)05:15
rukuarticrob138: =\05:15
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rukuarticsybariten: If you want a quick server up and running in 5 minutes, use XAMPP05:15
kkathmanxampp rocks05:16
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sybaritenrukuartic: yeah i know05:16
rukuarticsybariten: Comes with Apache, MySQL, PHP, Python, and a whole buncha other stuff05:16
rukuarticsybariten: Or just use apachetoolbox05:16
N2DIYsethk, I don't understand your question? You mean microphones and antennas? Yes.05:16
rob138chip42, how could i setup a tunnel?05:16
martyndahi, has anyone gotten HP calculators to connect to ubuntu and transfer files?05:16
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rukuartic_jason: running05:16
sybaritenrukuartic: but considering how far apt and easy *nix distros like Ubuntu has come, i figiured it would be pretty easy to set up the most common style of apache05:17
sybaritenbut the guide is a bit confusing05:17
sethkN2DIY, I was just trying to be amusing.  :)05:17
chip42rob138: google for "ssh tunnel"... i believe there is even a howto using only putty05:17
rukuarticsybariten: Heh I had trouble too05:17
sethkN2DIY, not terribly successfully it appears05:17
rukuarticchip42: He's in a university network...05:17
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chip42rukuartic: oh. starting to seem clearer to me :05:17
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N2DIYsethk, I turned my head for a second, and with all the traffic here, almost missed your message, where you referring to ham radio?05:18
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chip42rukuartic: but he is trying to establish a connection from withinthe university network to the outside, no? ssh tunnel would accomplish that05:18
rukuarticchip42: Other way around. From outside to inside network.05:18
sethkN2DIY, I don't even remember by now  :)05:18
nickrud_jason, I wish i could check your find statement :)05:19
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N2DIYsethk, OOKKAAYY!05:19
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chip42rukuartic: not really a difference. he will required access to both machines. ssh tunnel still does the job05:19
Vaske_Carseen dabar05:19
rukuarticchip42: Thing is, how do you tunnel inside? You still have to have port forwarding to your box05:19
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Vaske_Carman my server with ubuntu laster 75days and i had to restart it because of server upgrade, amazing!!05:20
rukuarticVaske_Car: Wow you didn't lose power for that long?05:20
Vaske_Carno05:21
GigaClon_jason, I think autopackage is the culprit05:21
nickrud!autopackage05:21
ubotusomebody said autopackage was evil05:21
N2DIYSimplyFlower, you may want to ask your question again, with the make, model and chip info?05:21
_jasonGigaClon: heh there you go05:21
nickrudhm, I wonder who someone was05:21
Vaske_Cari just host samba, teamspeak and few other stuff05:21
rukuarticROFL...05:21
CoirCan someone help me with this error I am encountering upon boot of Ubuntu? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12910 . I am not booting off FAT32 or anything...05:21
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_jasonubotu: botsnack05:21
ubotu:)05:21
GigaCloninkscape uses autopackage05:21
rukuartic_jason: ?05:22
chip42rukuartic: don't think so. i think the tunnel would have to be created from inside since the internal machine most likely gets all its access from a proxy.. tunnel would operate over the proxy05:22
_jasonrukuartic: what's up?05:22
Vaske_Caranybody here familiar with dedicated servers?05:22
nickrudGigaClon, Inkskape is in the repos ..05:22
rukuartic_jason: botsnack?05:22
_jasonrukuartic: yeah, he was a good bot so he got a snack05:22
rukuarticchip42: Still not following you.05:22
rukuartic_jason: haha05:22
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rukuartic_jason: so we're teaching emotion to a robot?05:22
nickrudI'm gonna see who taught ubotu that one05:22
GigaClonit was before inkscape was05:23
nickrudheh. Sev eas did :)05:23
chip42rukuartic: i guess you are right. the connection is in reverse order..  what i am saying is no port forwarding would be required if the connection originates from the internal network.. the internal box doesn't have to listen around for connections.05:23
GigaClonso how do i get rid of autopackage05:23
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JKnifedo yall harbor trolls?05:23
Vaske_Caris there any channel with people who host servers, resale itd..?05:24
SimplyFlowersethk, the only info i have about my D-Link Ethernet is from the the listing of devices.  its says:  D-Link DFE-500TX PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter(RevD) DECchip 21142/43.  ubuntu doesn't recognize for a connection to the internet.  What can I do?05:24
nickrudGigaClon, no Idea. But the autopackage home page should have instructions for using autopackage to remove it's own packages05:24
sethkSimplyFlower, the DFE-500TX is an important piece of information05:24
rukuarticchip42: Yeah, thats a granted. :p05:24
toMte83ahmm.. feels impossible to learn all about the terminal, i mean, what way is a smart place to start? New ubunta user and it feels like most of the things should be done thrue the Terminal... =/05:24
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PORDOhow do i stop a window from popping up when a usb device is mounted?05:24
rukuartictoMte83a: :O You are my hero!05:24
sethkSimplyFlower, when you do ifconfig -a, is the adapter listed?  Is it listed with ifconfig (without -a)?05:25
nickrudCoir, there's gotta be some more errors around there, maybe some context will help05:25
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toMte83arukuartic ? lol why?05:25
rukuartictoMte83a: Well the terminal is bash based. Type in "whatis bash"05:25
nickrudCoir, or at least some messages05:25
N2DIYDon't mount it! :)05:25
rukuartictoMte83a: Because everyone's like "Whee gui! Pretty colors"05:25
rukuartictoMte83a: First thing that I would reccommend you doing, is reading up on bash tutorials. And then? Ctrl+alt+f1 brings you to a bash only environment. ctrl+alt+f7 should bring you back.05:26
SimplyFlowerdon't know.  i'll check... give me a minute... have to go to the computer its on05:26
Coirlet me see05:26
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_jasontoMte83a: do you /want/ to do it or do you feel it is the only way to do thing?05:26
toMte83arukuartic : lol ... well, yeah, it is pretty colors but i dont go from win to Ubunta just becouse of the colors05:26
rukuartictoMte83a: And then just learn to use the big cli programs like "irssi" and "vi" and stuff like that... "apt-get" and "grep"05:26
N2DIYWhat's Ubunta?05:26
rukuarticXD How people from New Jersy say Ubuntu05:26
toMte83a_jason: i feel like i really wanna learn all about the terminal there is to know05:27
chip42rukuartic: i guess i don't understand the difficulty then.. unless the whole point is to initiate the connection from the outside.05:27
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N2DIYI'm from New Jermany, but I don't say it that way!05:27
toMte83arukuartic : never heard of any of those programs05:27
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_jasontoMte83a: that's cool, I'm going to send you some basic tutorials to get you started and then I recommend you read the bash scripting tutorial on tldp.org to get into more advanced stuff05:27
_jasonubotu: tell toMte83a about cli05:27
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toMte83athanks _jason05:28
_jasonubotu: tell toMte83a about rute05:28
_jasontoMte83a: rute is a good guide to but it goes into much more than just terminal05:28
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Coirnickrud, I am not seeing any other error messages05:29
N2DIY_jason, the rute manual is good stuff, I wish I had found that years ago.05:29
rukuartictoMte83a: Vi - Like "gedit"; irssi - IRC, apt-get - install stuff; grep - search05:29
SimplyFloweri'm back.   no to both questions, sethk05:29
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Coirnickrud, the error I gave occurs aftger "Starting Enterprise Volume Management System"05:29
_jasonN2DIY: that's exactly what I thought when I first learned about it05:29
rukuartictoMte83a: "man command" gives a complete tutorial, "whatis command" tells you in a nutshell05:29
rukuartic!rute05:30
ubotuwell, rute is a great guide for learning about Linux and is available at http://rute.2038bug.com/05:30
rukuarticCool.05:30
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rukuartictoMte83a: There's like, a program for every gui program... "mocp" is my favorite ^_^05:31
Coirnickrud, art thou there? =P05:31
xinI've downloaded a package (php5) source with apt-get source and ./configure'd it to suit my needs and then tested it and it works properly. How do I compile it as a .deb that provides for php5 and its counterparts?05:31
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rukuartictoMte83a: w3m and lynx work well too. "naim" is a must for all those AIM people05:31
toMte83a_jason / rukuartic thanks too both of u... i hope this give me some more knowleage... =)05:32
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rukuartictoMte83a: To find out what I'm talking about, type "apt-cache search w3m" and other programs. VI comes preinstalled though. here's a hint, press "i" to start editing, "esc" to stop, and type ":q" to quit05:32
rukuartictoMte83a: The console's especially handy to have if you use SSH to get into your computer. Oh, and SCREEN is a must have :P05:33
_jasontoMte83a: and if you want to get started with vim, 'vimtutor' is a great thing to run too05:33
Vaske_Caris there any site with SHELL tutorial for beginers?05:33
nickrudCoir, ok. my first pass is that something somewhere is running a fat32 check of some kind. The first two references I've seen are about usb sticks, so I don't know if that matters, but sda devices I shy away from.05:33
mikeCould anybody assist me with nVidia nForce 2 issues on Ubuntu Breezy?05:33
_jasonubotu: tell Vaske_Car about cli05:33
toMte83a_jason rukuartic: saving all the things u whriting too me and im gonna check it all, thanks again :)05:33
Coirhrm05:34
nickrudCoir, what kind of device are you booting from, anyway?05:34
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N2DIYVaske_Car, run man bash in a terminal05:34
SimplyFlowersethk:  the adapter isn't listed when i do ifconfig -a or ifconfig05:34
CoirIDE HDD05:34
sethkSimplyFlower, ok, that means either that a kernel module must be loaded, or possibly that a kernel rebuild is necessary with support for that NIC05:34
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toMte83aNice, Now i have something too do all day long... :)05:34
mikeAm I invisible? I just need a little help with my nForce2 audio drivers.05:35
toMte83aLoads of coffey and this is gonna be fun... =)05:35
N2DIYSimplyFlower, google search for your cards make and model, and "linux module."05:35
rukuartictoMte83a: To show you the coolness of bash, try this "ps aux" (that lists all the programs running) Now try this, "ps aux | grep <your username>" now that shows you all the programs you're running. You can do that with "ls" too (list files in the directory) "ls | grep <files>"05:35
SimplyFlowersethk:  i'm a newbie.  what does that mean and what do i need to do?05:35
nickrudCoir, then if I saw that error, I'd check my data trail and reinstall.05:35
SimplyFloweror what can i do?05:35
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mjbHello my /var/lib/dpkg/available is missing? apt-get update does't seem to refresh. Any clues?05:36
sethkSimplyFlower, it isn't really difficult.  I'm going to have to look up the name of the module.   I'm a bit tied up with work stuff at this moment but be patient and I'll get to it.  Or, perhaps, someone else knows?  The name of the kernel module for his Dlink NIC (exact model above)?05:36
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N2DIYSimplyFlower, once we find what module(driver) the card needs, we can get it to work.05:36
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ramza3ubuthe smb.conf file provided; what changes do most people make to it; for example just a simple share with a winxp machine05:36
Coirnickrud, I tried reinstallation, albeit the Dapper Drake Beta, it worked on the first boot fine, but after that... I guess I'll try installing Breezy.05:36
rukuartictoMte83a: Can you tell I'm obsessed? O_o :: fervish fever... drinks coffee::05:37
mikenVidia nForce 2 drivers don't seem to be powering my sound except for at the login screen where I get a da-da-da type sound.05:37
GigaClon_jason what was that find command?05:37
nickrudCoir, do you have really new hardware?05:37
Coirnickrud, nope05:37
_jasonGigaClon: find ~ -type f -exec grep MANPATH '{}' \;05:37
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GigaClonit finds some of our discussion05:38
nickrudCoir, my last dapper install was the live beta, and I installed that to disk. I have normal ide hardware.05:38
SimplyFlowersethk and N2DIY:  thank you05:38
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_jasonGigaClon: what do you mean? like irc logs :P ?05:38
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toMte83arukuartic : lol ... my english is so bad so i didnt get that line 100% but i know one importent thing, cant live without coffey...05:38
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GigaClonyeah05:39
rukuartictoMte83a: What do you natively speak? There are #ubuntu-<lang> channels05:39
GigaClonheheh05:39
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Coirnickrud, the live beta of dapper has always been buggy for me for some reason, the first time I tried it, my GRUB partition got messed-up05:39
_jasonGigaClon: haha05:39
mikeIf it helps, I have the nForce driver download from nVidia.com. I've attempted following directions from the site and I get an error saying that the kernel isn't in the right location.05:39
_jasonGigaClon: but nothing useful?05:39
Coirnickrud, well, grub bootloader rather05:39
GigaClonnot yet05:39
toMte83ai know, im just visiting this one, im from sweden and spend most of the time in #ubuntu-se but all swedes are asleep right now, boring people05:40
toMte83ai know, im just visiting this one, im from sweden and spend most of the time in #ubuntu-se but all swedes are asleep right now, boring people rukuartic05:40
GigaClonhttp://pastebin.com/68232505:41
mikeSomebody please help me.05:41
GigaClonwe can't05:41
GigaClon:)05:41
mikeI'm at the end of my rope with this. I'll admit, I'm a newb to linux.05:41
nickrudCoir, I went for several years without a reinstall, but I've done a handful of fresh installs over the last year. If you're trying to second guess the installer, don't.05:41
_jasonubotu: tell mike about support05:41
_jasonmike: have you been directed to the nvidia wiki yet?05:42
mikeNo, I haven't.05:42
_jasonubotu: tell mike about nvidia05:42
GigaClonignore me05:42
_jasonGigaClon: well definitely seems to be autopackage05:42
GigaClonis there a way to see what files they come from?05:43
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_jasonGigaClon: oops, should have given you that option, use grep -H05:44
mikeubotu?05:44
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GigaClonyou mean find?05:44
GigaClonmike look at your private messages05:44
_jasonmike: you should have received a private message from ubotu with nvidia wiki link05:44
_jasonGigaClon: find ~ -type f -exec grep -H MANPATH '{}' \;05:44
_jasonGigaClon: even better:05:45
_jasonGigaClon: find ~ -type f -exec grep -Hn MANPATH '{}' \;05:45
mikeOh! Am I ever dense! LOL Thank you.05:45
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rukuarticmike: humansnack05:45
grap3okay, I was following this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106285&highlight=patch+kernel+2.6.12 and at step nine I compile my kernel like it says but I get an error during05:45
grap3make[4] : *** No rule to make target `drivers/ide/pci/it821x.c', needed by `drivers/ide/pci/it821x.o'.  Stop.05:45
grap3Can anyone help me out?05:45
N2DIYprivate messages? I'm new to irc, what's that all about?05:46
mikeRight now, all information about my nvidia parts are not available until a later time. I'm using the Breezy Badger version now. The Ubuntu help site seems to have nothing.05:46
mikeSo, I'll check out the wiki05:47
rukuarticmike: lspci?05:47
xinwhere can I file a bug with ubuntu? or atleast something that looks like a bug?05:47
eggzeckgrap3, did you ./configure (whatever it is you're trying to do)?05:47
_jason!bug05:47
ubotubugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs05:47
xinduh, im dumb05:47
chip42N2DIY: all about /msg ;)05:47
grap3yeah05:47
mikelspci?05:47
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rukuarticxin: Thats ok :P We all are05:47
eggzeckgrap3, then 'make' and then 'make install'05:47
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toMte83arukuartic "whatis bash" didnt give anything... just came a -"bash (1) <!--------space-----------//>  -GNU Bourne-Again Shell :/05:47
rukuarticmike: Lists PCI devices on your machine05:47
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rukuartictoMte83a: Well thats what it is XD05:47
mikeOh, would this work for onboard audio?05:47
rukuartictoMte83a: Try "man bash"05:47
toMte83aOh...05:47
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toMte83arukuartic better... thanks05:48
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rukuartictoMte83a: Press "q" to exit the manpage. (ps: man = manual)05:48
mikeHmm... while I'm at it. Is there any way to make Ubuntu Breezy rescan all USB ports? I've moved my computer and didn't plug things back in where they originally were at installation.05:49
toMte83arukuartic could figure.... ;)05:49
xinhey my bug has been reported, now i just post the fix ^_^05:49
mjbhey wheres the best irc for apt-get q's?05:49
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cafuegomike: That should not matter at all.05:50
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RobyXWhat plugins am I supposto install to play music? I downloaded off gtuntella and using rythmbox music player but it tells me every song is not a correct audio stream05:50
mikeInteresting... My USB mouse refuses to cooperate with me now.05:50
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_jasonRobyX: mp3?05:50
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RobyXUm?05:51
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_jasonRobyX: what type of music files are they?05:51
rukuartictoMte83a: So yeah, lemme know if you want/need a console app :p05:51
RobyXmp305:51
_jason!mp305:51
ubotump3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:51
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RobyXThanks05:52
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toMte83aconsole app? extras for the terminal?05:53
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toMte83aconsole app? extras for the terminal?  rukuartic05:53
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N2DIYmjb, why mess wiht apt-get, when you have /system/admin/synaptic?05:53
GigaClon_jason, now how to reset my Manpath05:53
intelikeyback.05:53
_jasonGigaClon: export MANPATH=05:53
rukuartictoMte83a: A console app is just a program designed to run in the console. Search for "music on console" and "ncurses AIM" and "irssi"05:53
rukuartictoMte83a: irssi is actually preinstalled on ubuntu. Try typing "irc" at the bash prompt05:53
intelikeyN2DIY why mess with a GUI when you have linux ?05:54
GigaClon_jason thanks05:54
eggzeckN2DIY, ? I still use apt-get heh05:54
_jasonGigaClon: np05:54
toMte83aok?05:54
rukuarticN2DIY: You mean there's a gui to apt-get?05:54
eggzeckN2DIY, and synaptic still uses apt-get ;p05:54
rukuartictoMte83a: :P Just a start to learning the console, using console apps05:54
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intelikeyrukuartic it's called synaptic05:54
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rukuarticintelikey: :OOOO You mean I don't have to sit forever typing endless lines of commands into the commandline!? Does that involve using one of those darn fangled mouse things?05:55
christina_can anyone talk me through installing my web cam?05:55
N2DIYintelikey, egzeck, urbuartic, yes apt-get has a gui, and yes you can do more with eight fingers and two thumbs.05:55
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xinIf a bug I've found is allready on the bugtracker but listed as unconfirmed, should I mark it as confirmed? Or dont I have the permissions to do that?05:55
christina_i know nothing about this computer05:55
eggzeckN2DIY, I wasn't asking if apt-get had a gui ;)05:55
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N2DIYthan you can with one hand and a mouse.05:56
rukuarticintelikey: I actually prefer aptitude05:56
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intelikeywell as soon as you geeks learn how to use dpkg  and leave all those  "frontends" alone......05:56
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christina_i really need help before i cry05:56
N2DIYeggzeck, yes, that is what I get for answering a question with a question, I hate that too.05:56
eggzeckhehe :)05:56
toMte83arukuartic gonna read more about irssi too... remeber your nick and if u are online i can yell... but first i need too read a lot and get some good basic ground too stand on05:57
InnerFIREwhats wrong christina05:57
seamus-laptopanyone here using Breezy on an Inspiron 600m?05:57
rukuartictoMte83a: Yep :) Good for you.05:57
rukuarticRight guys05:57
rukuarticits late05:57
mikeUh-huh... maybe I should have used a female name to get answers faster! LOL j/k05:57
toMte83arukuartic~ yeah05:57
rukuarticand Imma head to bed soon.05:57
christina_innerfire i need to connect my web cam and have no clue how05:57
pundaihey i just upgraded to dapper but my synaptics touchpad doesnt scroll anymore05:57
eggzeckpundai, #ubuntu+105:58
InnerFIREwhat kinda webcam?05:58
pundaieggzeck, oh05:58
christina_all i know is that is says hp on it05:58
pvd2006Ubuntu use to be an option on the boot loader along with windows xp, then I re-installed windows xp on the same partition windows xp was on before and now I dont have an option to boot into ubuntu. Butwhen I goto system info it still shows me I have all 3 partitions.05:58
intelikeymike maybe....    but sometimes  just asking at the right time is the trick.05:58
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pvd2006Both partitions are on the same hard drive.05:58
slavikwtf?05:59
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toMte83arukuartic cant have Ubuntu / linux just becouse its nice colors and chatting... ;) cya later going /away now, learning shit...05:59
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slavikok, good05:59
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InnerFIREare u using dapper or breezy?05:59
InnerFIREcheck your p/m05:59
mikeI'm just hoping to get sound working on here... unless I need modules to play wav files too.05:59
rukuarticInnerFIRE: Methinks, its a dual boot box. Shutdown/reboot maybe, but then no login.05:59
slavikdapper ftw05:59
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seamus-laptopLooking for some help with the screensavers on my laptop.  When they're previewed, they seem to run fine, but in fullscreen they are horribly slow.  Running the open source ati drivers on a mobility radeon 9000.05:59
rukuarticInnerFIRE: That is, if I'm wrong.05:59
christina_i think it's breezy05:59
christina_yes it is06:00
eggzeckseamus-laptop, what's your memory like?06:00
rukuarticseamus-laptop: Welcome to Xorg06:00
N2DIYpvd2006, winders eats up the partiton table, or your boot manager.06:00
pvd2006is there a way I can get ubuntu working again through some file in windows?06:00
InnerFIREmost hp cameras work with breezy.. ive only had problems with creative..06:00
rukuarticAnd happy new day from EST everyone06:00
seamus-laptopeggzeck: 64 megs on the video, 512 main06:00
slavikrukuartic: same06:00
mikeHeh, EST... we've still got an hour to go here. LOL06:01
InnerFIREopen up ekiga06:01
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christina_ekiga? what's that?06:01
pvd2006m2kiy, so how can I get the partition table back and get the option to boot back into ubuntu?06:01
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pvd2006can I use the ubuntu cd06:01
InnerFIREgnomemeeting06:01
mikeInnerFIRE: What about a dual mode camera from Vivitar?06:01
N2DIYpvd2006, you might be able to re-install Ubuntu? always install winder, and then linux, or winders will mess things up.06:01
christina_i'm sorry i'm not very bright...lol06:01
intelikey!tell pvd2006 about dualboot06:01
pvd2006m2diy yeah, that is what I did before.06:02
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christina_it won't let me open it06:02
InnerFIREchristina.. open up gnomemeeting, it should be in your applications menu under internet06:02
|Lord_Zoo|Hi people06:02
N2DIYintelikey, dual boot won't work if winders is the second install, always install linux last.06:02
GigaClonanyone use davfs?06:03
christina_then what?06:03
|Lord_Zoo|can anybody tell me where's the modprobe.conf or modules.conf in ubuntu?06:03
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InnerFIRErun the initial setup and see if your system will detect your camera06:03
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christina_brb06:03
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christina_thanks06:03
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intelikeyN2DIY he said it's on the first partition06:04
seamus-laptop|Lord_Zoo|  /etc/modules06:04
pvd2006intelikey, I read the site and I saw the part about the partition table, but what if ubuntu is already installed and I just need to get the partition table back so I can boot back into ubuntu. Can I use the ubuntu cd for that?06:05
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N2DIYintelikey, doesn't matter, that is where the mbr are is, and that is what winders is going to grab.06:05
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N2DIYIf he can still see his linux partition, maybe he can save his data, but he'll have to reload linux to dual boot.06:06
jmoncayois there any kind of Cbuilder or delphy 7 for linux??06:06
pvd2006windows xp is the first partition(0) and ubuntu is partition (1) but windows load as partition(0)06:06
|Lord_Zoo|seamus-laptop, so, if I want to disable ipv6, like I do in fedora, I must put alias net-pf-10 off in there?06:06
nickrud|Lord_Zoo|, which version of ubuntu are you running?06:06
intelikeypvd2006 all you need to do is reinstall grub,   as i see it.06:06
sethkjmoncayo, not precisely, but there are gui builders and IDEs.06:06
sethkjmoncayo, take a look at anjuta06:06
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slavik!anjuta06:06
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik06:06
|Lord_Zoo|nickrud, 5.1006:06
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pvd2006ok re-install gfrub, so can you just reinstall grub straight from the ubuntu cd on bootup?06:06
intelikeyN2DIY no not a reload  just reinstall grub/lilo  or what ever boot loader he uses.06:07
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jmoncayosethk, what is IDE, ?? i am kind of learning programming gui?06:07
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nickrud|Lord_Zoo|, a sec, I need to mount that partition06:07
sethkjmoncayo, IDE means integrated development environment06:07
N2DIYintelikey, ok, I don't know alot about this, just what I've read, I don't mess with dual boot systems.06:07
|Lord_Zoo|thanks, nickrud, I'll wait :)06:08
intelikeypvd2006 yes you can.    you can mount your linux partition cd into it  then  do   chroot . grub-install06:08
sethkjmoncayo, it refers to an editor with smart indenting, and you can compile from within the editor, and such06:08
avrhi. does anybody know how to get a fullscreen presentation using xpdf? i do xpdf -fullscreen, but the scrollbar and the border at the bottom reappear06:08
sethkjmoncayo, a GUI builder is often part of an IDE; it allows you to build a user interface interactively06:08
sethkjmoncayo, I don't do user interfaces, so I know more about IDEs than I know about GUI builders06:09
jmoncayosethk, oh yea i remember that from class :)06:09
InnerFIREhas anyone here ever owned a Gateway performance 500?06:09
N2DIYintelikey, and I hope your right, I've savaged some winder boxes, and had to run debug on hard drive to get them bootable with linux.06:10
jmoncayoso do you know any gui builder?06:10
sethkjmoncayo, for java, look at eclipse06:10
sethkjmoncayo, sun has a java gui builder06:10
sethkjmoncayo, that can run in linux06:10
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pvd2006intelikey, alright, so then I should have an option to boot into ubuntu and windows xp after that.06:11
intelikeypvd2006 yes.    the options are in the /boot/menu.lst  file on the linux partition.06:11
slavikjmoncayo: there is also Glade for C/C++06:11
multiis it possible to do a ssh_keygen so that 4 machines can sign on to each other in any combination without needing a password?06:11
jmoncayoslavik, Glade is like c++builder>06:12
jmoncayo?06:12
|Lord_Zoo|it is possible that the configuration resides on /etc/modutils?06:12
sethkmulti, yes06:12
N2DIYpvd2006, your going to have to preserve your partitions, be careful. I've never messed with that.06:12
slavikright, what did I say?06:12
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multisethk: what is the magic incantation?06:12
nickrud|Lord_Zoo|, you'd put that in a new file in /etc/modprobe.d . I need to refresh my memory every time I need to tweak the kernel06:12
slavikoh, oops, misworded06:12
toMte83arukuartic only atleast 2000 lines of information... this is gonna take time... lol06:12
slavikyou were talking about a GUI builder ...06:12
|Lord_Zoo|no matter what's the file name?06:12
slavikGlade builds GUI in C/C++06:12
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christina_ok innerfire?06:13
sethkmulti, you set ssh to do pki (public/private keys), and you have to put the keys into the .ssh directory ($HOME/.ssh) on all the machines06:13
jmoncayoslavik, oki thanks06:13
intelikeyok i've had it.    pvd2006 i'll go and let N2DIY talk you out of fixing it.   good night and good luck.06:13
christina_it won't let me in gnome meeting either06:13
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nickrud|Lord_Zoo|, assuming it's not set by anything that already in that dir, that's where all those alias's show up06:14
InnerFIREwhat do u mean?06:14
jmoncayoslavik, what is the difference between glade and glade-2? or GTK and GTK-206:14
InnerFIREwhat did it say?06:14
N2DIYintelikey, what happened, I said I didn't know how to do it?06:14
|Lord_Zoo|thanks nickrud , I'll try it and let you know :)06:15
jmoncayosethk, anjuta is only for gnome??06:15
sethkjmoncayo, no, I run it on a kde machine also06:15
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multisethk: looking up pki... ... the previous procedure for 2 machines was to copy the id_rsa.pub file to the other authorized_keys file.... but this dosn't seem to work for more than two06:15
|Lord_Zoo|I'm too fedorized right now, and I want to test ubuntu :)06:16
christina_it says it's already running if you want to call a given callto or h323 url use gnomeeting -c url06:16
jmoncayosethk, have you used c++ builder or delphi?06:16
sethkjmoncayo, something can be "for gnome" or "for kde" but can still run in either environment.  I know that sounds weird but it's true06:16
christina_what's that mean?06:16
sethkjmoncayo, I used delphi a long time ago06:16
jmoncayosethk, in antuja like delphi?06:16
InnerFIREnevermind calling..06:17
sethkjmoncayo, there are similarities.  they aren't identical06:17
jmoncayoi mean the IDE and that stuff06:17
nickrud Lord_Zoo|, /etc/modprobe.d/alias file has the  net-pf-10 ipv6 def, you might want to look there to make any changes06:17
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InnerFIREduring the setup of gnomemeeting, it should ask you for your camera settings06:17
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sethkjmoncayo, for one thing, anjuta can do various languages, and delphi is pretty much a one language tool06:17
no_no_noI need help!!06:17
jmoncayosethk, ok i will try it then06:17
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sethkjmoncayo, that's the best thing to do.  it's definitely worth looking at; it's a nice program06:17
christina_i can't even get in it though06:17
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christina_i just wanna cry06:17
no_no_noi'm a complete noob.. and am trying to edit etc/network/options ... but dunno how to..06:17
slavikjmoncayo: glade-2 and gtk-2 are more up to date :)06:18
jmoncayosethk, what is that of GTK?06:18
christina_i'm so stupid with computers....i wish i knew more06:18
jmoncayoslavik, what about anjuta?06:18
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zithhow do you test out an fstab config without restarting?06:19
InnerFIREholdon..06:19
multisethk; thank you... peace06:19
no_no_nocan anyone help me? im trying to setup an ltsp server with two NIC...06:19
chip42zith: use mount... where you got the idea you need to restart after making a change, i dunno. that is generally not true in linux06:19
|Lord_Zoo|I saw it there, but I Thought I can define this in another file06:19
sethkjmoncayo, GTK is the GUI toolkit that gnome is built on top of06:19
|Lord_Zoo|I'll change it directly in alias and see what happens06:19
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InnerFIREchristina, what are you going to use the webcam for?06:20
|Lord_Zoo|thanks again nickrud06:20
no_no_noi dunno anything and im following these directions : https://wiki.edubuntu.org/ThinClientHowtoNAT06:20
holy_cowno_no_no, in terminal type in sudo gedit, and open it up with gedit06:20
sethkjmoncayo, if you'll excuse the dangling prepositions06:20
zithchip42: just type mount and that applies fstab?06:20
harisundToday I observed a very strange thing. The computer that I have here doesn't allow me to install either of breezy or hoary, but actually installed Warty !06:20
InnerFIREwhich program?06:20
christina_to chat on line06:20
no_no_nobut i dunno how to edit etc/network/options if i dont have permission. :(06:20
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lrojashi all06:20
InnerFIREusing what?06:20
zithchip42: i just know that processing fstab is part of the boot initialization but don't know where it's initiated exactly :>06:20
InnerFIREmsn?06:20
InnerFIREyahoo?06:20
holy_cowno_no_no, thats why i told you to type 'sudo gedit'06:20
christina_no06:20
harisundIs there a difference in the way Canonical burnt those CDs (the ones sent through shipit) ?06:20
christina_firefox06:20
no_no_nooh sorry06:20
no_no_no:)06:20
holy_cowthat will start gedit wit proper permissions06:20
InnerFIREhrm06:20
lrojashi guys06:21
no_no_noit didnt start anyting06:21
InnerFIREhave u tried going to a channel?06:21
nickrud|Lord_Zoo|, theoretically any changes you make to a file in /etc is supposed to be sacrsanct; kernel parameters don't fall into that categority06:21
christina_channel?06:21
holy_cowdid you get asked for a password?06:21
no_no_nono06:21
chip42zith: sort of got it... once you modified fstab, the changes were made... mount is being run on boot.. it reads fstab and brings up the fileystems... you can use the command manually to bring up any recent changes you just made to fstab06:21
lrojasanybody experienced with xubuntu?06:21
InnerFIREhave you tried to use the camera already with firefox?06:21
holy_cowimpossible06:21
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jmoncayosethk, oki so gtk+ 2 comes with new libraries for gui?06:21
holy_cowif its not asking for your pass your hosed your system06:21
chip42zith: man mount will tell you how... but generally mount /mount/point will bring up something defined in fstab06:21
harisundI have a quick question guy, if I install warty (4.10!) can I just modify the sources to point to dapper, do an upgrade, and then a dist-upgrade, and expect a working system?06:21
no_no_nolet me restart06:22
christina_i have to run the cd first to install it06:22
sethkjmoncayo, not sure what you mean by "new" libraries06:22
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holy_cowno_no_no, have you done something stupid like create a root account and are using that?06:22
christina_it won't run06:22
jmoncayosethk, well can antuja run under fluxbox??06:22
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mramfinally flas player 7 is out for ubuntu06:22
no_no_noim using whatever edubuntu asked for..06:22
mramflash06:22
sethkjmoncayo, yes, as long as the libraries it needs are installed.  but the libraries aren't packaged with it, you have to install them first06:22
_jasonmram: it's been out for a while?06:22
no_no_noits a $06:22
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InnerFIREcheck your private msgs06:23
lrojasi want to install xubuntu but i am not sure of the propper way to do it06:23
slavikjmoncayo: I am using Anjuta. It is an IDE for C/C++/Perl and some others06:23
nickrudharisund, no, release to release and the wiki has the gotchas06:23
jmoncayosethk, if i install antuja with apt-get will it get all the libraries i need06:23
christina_how?06:23
slavikI am having trouble creating distributions though06:23
InnerFIRE?06:23
sethkjmoncayo, yes, it will take care of those automatically06:23
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InnerFIREi just private msged u06:23
rob138hi, is there a way to download files off daap shares on a network?06:23
harisundnickrud: Ok, so what is your suggestion? I have just installed Warty now. I want breezy.06:23
jmoncayoslavik, antuja can make gui06:23
InnerFIREis your nickname registered?06:23
zithchip42: perfect thanks!  when I rebooted that machine it didn't start sshd agaain for me to get into remotely... :(06:23
christina_yes06:23
holy_cowno_no_no,  your messing something up ... your shell is the program you start from applications / accessories / terminal by the way06:23
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holy_cownot alt/ f2 if that is what your doing06:24
no_no_nowhat's alt ft?06:24
lrojasxubuntu mentions dapper, but i see it as a beta..  can someone please clarify?06:24
nickrudharisund, if your pipe to the internet is really big, going from warty -> hoary -> breezy might make sense, but if not just getting the breezy install iso makes better sense.06:24
slavikjmoncayo: Anjuta uses Glade to make GUI :)06:24
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holy_cow*sigh*06:24
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jmoncayooki, so i can do it cool06:24
no_no_nohey it worked!06:25
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slavikno_no_no: 'ALT' is a key next to the space bar06:25
mram_jason: really hmm, mine just did the update!06:25
holy_cowno_no_no, of course it did06:25
slavik'F2' is a key along the top of the keyboard06:25
zhenrewhy does ubuntu have to reboot after updates...debian/knoppix don't seem to require it06:25
no_no_noalt-f2 is terminal shortcut?06:25
_jasonmram: macromedia's link was down the last few days06:25
|Lord_Zoo|besides this, I tend to like ubuntu :)06:25
no_no_nosorry im brand new to this06:25
holy_cowno its not06:25
slavikzhenre: what did you update?06:25
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harisundnickrud: The problem is, for some reason only the Warty CD was identified by my machine here. So I could end up with Warty only. The other CDs (ones from Canonical) stopped and gave the error, something along the lines of unable to verify CD integrity06:25
|Lord_Zoo|Now it's matter of time and patience to learn a few new things06:25
mram_jason: i see that could be why mine just updated right now06:25
InnerF|REi honestly never got my camera to work until i upgraded to dapper..06:25
_jasonmram: yeah06:25
mram_jason: thanks for the info06:26
no_no_nohey after i did sudo gedit once it didnt ask for the paswd after i closed the terminal and tried it again06:26
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rob138hi, is there a way to download files off daap shares... like daap:// or even with a program?06:26
holy_cowharisund, it  makes no difference, you can start off with warty and dist-upgrade to whatever current is btw.06:26
christina_how do i do that?06:26
harisundnickrud: I am sure the problem is not with the CDs, since I have around 10 such CDs (I do a lot of distribution here) and I have installed on other machines with them. I know the CD drive is not a problem since it installed FC 4/5 and Warty06:26
InnerF|REim trying to private msg you..06:26
InnerF|REwhat are u using06:26
InnerF|REXchat?06:26
christina_yes06:27
holy_cowno_no_no, once you give the command permission, it remembers it for that session.  when you log out it will forget it because the session is reset06:27
harisundholy_cow looks like I will have to end up doing that only. Just wanted to make sure that nothing gets broken along the way.06:27
InnerF|RElook at the bottom of your screen, you should have a msg from me06:27
christina_i just see u said updrade dapper06:27
holy_cowharisund, *nod* mostly its foolproof, but stuff does happen ... i've never had a debian / ubuntu system unfixeable doing an upgrade06:27
harisundnickrud: I remember you told me about an upgrade route mentioned in the wiki. Could you help me find that out?06:27
harisundholy_cow: Yeah, I agree with that.I really do bow down to the power of apt in that regard.06:28
nickrudharisund, if you can get one of those machines up to dapper from a warty install, that might help narrow the problem :)06:28
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lrojas:/06:28
KingBahamutevening all06:28
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lrojasxubuntu?06:29
lrojasanybody?06:29
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blindhow do you get transparent windows in ubuntu?06:29
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lrojasalso (how can i eliminate the ubuntu user and create my own user and others to use the machine? )06:29
nickrudharisund, I've pointed a few people at ubotu, but warty's fallen off I see06:30
mramlrojas: sorry man i am gnome lover ;-)06:30
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slaviklrojas: what do you mean "eliminate the ubuntu user" ?06:31
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rob138is there a way in snome to access daap shares through nautilus?06:31
slaviklrojas: to create users, look into passw I think06:32
harisund_nickrud and holy_cow, I got disconnected...sorry about that.. anyway, nickrud could you point me towards a wiki link?06:32
slavik!daap06:32
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik06:32
lrojaswell, ubuntu ( i only have tested the live cd and am prepping to install thge real oine ) comes with a default user ( ubuntu ) and i would like to get asked for what user name to use06:32
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slavikahh06:32
zhenrehow does one get mp3 working with rhythmbox (works fine with mpg123)06:32
slaviklrojas: when you install it should ask to create a user account ...06:32
zhenreand xmms06:32
slavik!restricted06:33
ubotufrom memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats06:33
slavikzhenre: follow that link06:33
nickrudharisund, there was one, a sec ( I was away )06:33
rob138slavik, so no luck huh06:33
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chip42Irojas: its a live cd... of course it is going to come with a default user :p06:34
chip42bleh06:34
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zhenreslavik: thanks! it worked like a charm06:34
harisund_nickrud: Don't bother.. I searched the Ubuntu forums, and found the links.06:35
lrojashmmm06:35
harisund_nickrud: Thanks though.06:35
nickrudharisund, good, cuz I was about to say I have no clue :)06:35
lrojashow about regarding xubuntu? anybody has any experience using it?06:35
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dabaR!anyone06:35
ubotua large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>06:35
harisund_nickrud: No problem. Anyway, the wiki suggests I upgrade to Hoary first, and then Breezy. So I guess I will be going that route only.06:35
slavikrob138: with what?06:36
blindCan I watch .wmv's on ubuntu? I thought VLC could run any format?06:36
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slavikblind: try totem06:36
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dabaRubotu: no, anyone is a large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>06:36
ubotudabaR: okay06:36
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chichehehe, somebody could06:36
carthikblind, I can, you need the proper codecs06:36
blindslavik: where can i get decoders for totem? I can't run anything in totem06:36
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blindcarthik: codecs for VLC?06:37
rob138with !daap06:37
dabaRblind: some wmv has encryption that can not be decoded06:37
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slavikoh06:37
no_no_nookay.. another question... if im setting up ltsp clients and they cant network boot.. i need to put a boot loader like grub on the HD....06:37
slavikwhat's daap? someone else was asking about it06:37
no_no_nodoes that mean i cant use the HD for anything else?06:37
lrojasubotu: well my question is self explanatory, i am looking for someone who had installed xubuntu, i am curios as to what method should i choose, since the iso images are the recomended way but are basede on the next ( beta ) release06:37
ubotulrojas: okay06:37
dabaRno_no_no: did you ask in #edubuntu06:37
carthikblind, I answered the first of your questions.06:37
slavik!tell blind about restricted06:37
blindpossible to run WMP through wine? :D06:37
no_no_nois that a channel?06:37
dabaRubotu: tell lrojas about uvotu06:37
no_no_nooh it is.. thanks for your help.06:37
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dabaRno_no_no: edubuntu.org06:38
slavik!deskbar06:38
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik06:38
lrojas*sigh*06:38
carthikblind, use mplayer with codecs-essential and w32codecs - which is what I do. There are files I can open that my windows user friend cannot :) (which is just awesome, I tell you)06:38
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slavikbrb06:38
clichelol06:38
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no_no_noyall are great help... im reading the wiki and faq06:38
dabaRlrojas: there are isos maybe for breezy. do9 you have ubuntu installed?06:38
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dabaRno_no_no: no, no, no, we suck.06:39
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mpg456hi06:39
no_no_no:)06:39
Sniper00Xi'm trying to install breezy amd64 from cd and it keeps failing at the same location ... load additional components .. any ideas?06:39
blindcarthik: alright, I'll give it a whirl. downloading the w32codecs now.06:39
Sniper00Xi have tried multiple cds06:39
clicheno_no_no, no no_no_no06:39
Sniper00Xand checked their integrity06:39
no_no_noim confused.06:39
no_no_no:/06:39
mpg456hi folks06:39
dabaRcliche: that is a total cliche06:39
clichehehe06:39
mpg456could someone pls help me?06:39
clicheI doubt06:40
Dr_Willisand the problem is?06:40
dabaR!helpme06:40
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.06:40
no_no_noi can follow directions.. but even the help and faqs are wirtten for engineers. I dunno even how to use a floppy on this thing.06:40
mpg456im having trouble in running mpg123 on background06:40
dabaRno_no_no: nice. which one do you not understand and which part?06:40
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cliche! tell me about smart questions06:40
ubotucliche: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:40
mpg456im runnung it via cron... and it runs...06:41
slavikback06:41
carthikmpg456, try mpg123 <whatever> &06:41
mpg456but it dies right away06:41
no_no_nowell Im following this : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowtoNAT06:41
SimplyFlowersethk:  any luck on finding the module for D-Link Ethernet?  don't mean to be a pest, but am getting drowsy.06:41
mpg456this is the line06:41
carthikmpg456, the "&" at the end is important06:41
mpg456mpg123 -z --list playlist &06:41
clicheD-Link sucks06:41
mpg456and it dies....06:41
dabaRmpg456: nohup mpg123 blah&06:41
dabaRheh06:41
clicheespecialy, usb wireless device (b/g)06:41
sethkSimplyFlower, give me that model number again?06:41
mpg456I'm using the same script on suse and it works T_T06:42
dabaRmpg456: come back to ask how to kill it.06:42
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Sniper00Xany ideas on why i'm getting "problem reading data from cd-rom" at "load installer componets from cd" stage?06:42
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carthikdabaR, you're evil.06:42
SimplyFlowersethk:  DFE-500TX PCI06:42
N2DIYI can't play DVDs, I keep getting libdvdcss errors, ideas?06:42
Apostle^sudo apt-get install libdvdcss06:42
dabaRcarthik: :( >:[06:42
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clicheSimplyFlower, are you using the D-Link usb wireless bar?06:43
Apostle^also libdvdread3-dev06:43
Apostle^also libdvdread306:43
jmoncayosethk, how can i make a button with anjuta06:43
N2DIYI did that last nigh, now I'm rebooting in case something needs to stick?06:43
jmoncayowhere do i find the labels and that stuff06:43
sethkjmoncayo, that's the GUI builder part06:43
sethkSimplyFlower, that's USB, wireless?06:43
slavikjmoncayo: anjuta does not build a GUI, Glade does06:44
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slaviksethk: you try anjuta2 beta?06:44
sethkslavik, not yet06:44
Sniper00X!helpme06:44
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.06:44
SimplyFlowersethk:  no it's not wireless its my ethernet card installed into my computer06:44
sethkslavik, have you?06:44
sethksimplydazed, ok06:44
slavikI did, had trouble06:44
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jmoncayoslavik, so anjuta is only a c/c++ IDE but not a gui builder?06:45
slavikfirstly I couldn't compile it with 3 plugins06:45
slavikjmoncayo: correct06:45
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r3dickHello,  Can any point me to a site or page where I might find info on a 686 keyboard not working problem06:45
slashhi guys06:45
slavikjmoncayo: anjuta uses glade to build GUI06:45
slashI have a question06:45
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crimsunr3dick: please answer my question from -devel.06:45
clichelol06:45
clicheanjuta +106:45
slaviksethk: then, I tried to open a file and the text wouldn't be rendered properly06:45
sethkSimplyFlower, what speed?  10? 100? 1000?06:45
slashhow do I configure services on ubuntu?06:45
user01is the #debian channel open?06:45
thatGuy_does anyone here use expocity?06:45
jmoncayoslavik, is glade like delphi?06:45
thatGuy_mine doesn't seem to be working right06:45
sethkslavik, well, it is beta  :)06:45
slavikuser01: yes, but don't ask them ubuntu question06:46
thatGuy_its taking forever to display windows06:46
SimplyFlowersethk:  10006:46
clicheuser01, #debian has too many users06:46
N2DIYlibdvdcss, ribdvdread3-dev and libdvdread3 are all in the same package?06:46
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r3dickcrimsun I did not see ur question could you please ask again.06:46
slaviksethk: yes, and I think it compiling and running (without crashing) is already a big start ;)06:46
dabaRslavik: remember that? Do you think a lot of people still go there for Ubuntu questions?06:46
thatGuy_i'm wondering where i can go to configure to configure its settings and settings for metacity06:46
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slavikjmoncayo: delphi is a language, I think.06:46
user01#debian unable to join channel (address is banned)06:46
sethkSimplyFlower, I found the 550, but not the 500 yet.  I'm still looking06:46
user01ah ok that explains it06:46
crimsunr3dick: 23:42 < crimsun> only 2.6.15-21.32-686 ? 23:42 < crimsun> as in 2.6.15-21.32-386 works fine?06:46
slavikdabaR: I wasn't here during that time, but the topic still says 'this is not #ubuntu'06:46
clicheslavik, delphi is a city06:46
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slashsomebody?06:47
slavikcliche: in greece06:47
SimplyFlowersethk: ok, thank you... will be waiting06:47
jmoncayoslavik, is glade another language or is c/c++ gui builder?06:47
sethkSimplyFlower, did you have the chipset for that?06:47
clicheslavik, + old greece06:47
slavikjmoncayo: it is a builder06:47
NafaiIs there a reason that I would still be getting British spellings in my dialog boxes (like colours in the desktop background properties) when I have English (United States) selected in Language Support.   I'm running Dapper06:47
sethkSimplyFlower, I think you said, but there is so much info flying by ....06:47
slavikjmoncayo: glade spits out the proper code for the gui06:47
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slavikusing gtk framework06:47
ic56slash: which services?06:47
SimplyFlowersethk:  DECchip 21142/4306:47
ic56!services06:47
ubotuI heard services is to view and alter system services, use one or more of rcconf, sysvconfig, sysv-rc-conf, update-rc.d or ls, ln and rm in /etc/rc?.d/06:47
slavikcliche: old greece is called delphi?06:47
slashic56: anything06:47
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slashah.. sysvconfig06:48
slashmay rcconf :)06:48
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slashmay be.. going to try that ;)06:48
slashubotu: thanks06:48
ubotuslash: no problem06:48
jmoncayoslavik, so glade is another programming language?06:48
slavikjmoncayo:06:48
user01cliche: so if i got #debian unable to join channel (address is banned) that doesnt mean i was banned then...06:48
clicheglade = ogl-like?06:48
slasherr... rcconf no such command06:48
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slashwhich package is that?06:49
slavikgtk06:49
jmoncayoslavik, have you used c/c++ builder?06:49
slavikjmoncayo: have you ever used Visual Basic?06:49
clicheborland?06:49
slashah.. ok :)06:49
no_no_nowhat is initrd?06:49
r3dickcrimsun I dont believe I have the 21.32 kernel.  when I uname it  it comes back 15-21.  and yes the 386 works fine.  I do get a i8042 error on the 686 boot.06:49
jmoncayoslavik, yes i have, but now in college i am using c/c++ builder, so i am looking for some program that does that stuff06:50
clicheis Borland still alive?06:50
thatGuy_can i get some help with metacity06:50
no_no_noomg. ramdisk.06:50
slavikjmoncayo: remember making the GUI in Visual Basic?06:50
jmoncayolike i have c/c++ for windows and i have c/c++ for linux06:50
slavikthat is what Glade does.06:50
slavikright06:50
slashthanks guys06:50
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cliche"C++ is the ONE"06:50
slavikjmoncayo: are you looking for something like Visual C 6?06:50
thatGuy_this is locking up my computer everytime i hit alt+tab, which i do habitually06:51
slavikcliche: C++ is D actually06:51
jmoncayoslavik, yes but i dont know if you understand me06:51
cliche"C# is ... nothing"06:51
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crimsunr3dick: you're running 21.32 if you have 2.6.15-21-x8606:51
slavikjmoncayo: I don't, you either want a GUI builder (Glade) or an IDE (Anjuta)06:51
slavikIDE = Integrated Development Environment06:51
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clicheoww, I remember06:51
jmoncayoslavik, i mean if i write a program in c i can copy the code and make the same program in linux06:51
slavikIDE is the text editor that allows you to compile in one button press06:51
blindcarthik, running this wmv in mplayer now works, but it's unbelievably choppy. anything I can do about that?06:51
sethkSimplyFlower, you want the de4x5 driver06:51
TarkaDoes anyone know if there are nightly builds of Dapper?06:51
slavikjmoncayo: right06:51
clicheglade = a GUI builder like the Delphi's ?06:52
slavikjmoncayo: did you do apt-get install build-essential yet?06:52
jmoncayoslavik, yes06:52
SimplyFlowersethk:  where do i get it and how do i install it?06:52
slavikcliche: never used delphi, but glade is a gui builder that spits out gtk c/c++ code06:52
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slavikjmoncayo: good06:52
carthikblind, change the video output option and restart mplayer, till one works. I forgot which one is the one that works best, perhaps XV ?06:52
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blindI'll try it.06:52
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slavikjmoncayo: what did you use on windows for write your programs?06:52
cliche*sigh*, Delphis WAS amazing06:52
sethkSimplyFlower, you already have it, because it's part of the standard kernel06:53
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N2DIYOk, I shutdown the box, brought it back up and Totem is still complaining about not having libdvdcss to play DVDs?06:53
daddiusi would like to run emacs off a server but for some reason my display vairable won't work... any clue?06:53
jmoncayoslavik, now i mae a program gui in windows with c/c++ builder, and i want to copy the same code and make a gui program in linux06:53
slavikjmoncayo: that might not be possible06:53
jmoncayoslavik, for gui i use delphi 7 and c/c++ builder06:53
sethkSimplyFlower, the question is:  Is it compiled as a module and not inserted into the kernel, or is it not compiled?  In the latter case you need to do a kernel build.  In the former case you only need to do insmod06:53
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r3dickcrimsun OK I did not know that piece of info.  Today is my first time using chat so I am still working on learning protocol and functioning of xchat.  Thank you for answering my query even on wrong channel.06:53
mpg123hi06:53
slavikc/c++ builder ... I don't get that term06:53
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clicheC++ builder > Visual C++06:54
mpg123nohup mpg123 -z --list playlist also dies06:54
daddiuswhat is a c/c++ builder?  a compiler?06:54
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jmoncayoslavik, is a program to make gui with c/c++ code06:54
SimplyFlowersethk:  how do i know which it is or find out06:54
clichedaddius, a compiler bondle06:54
sethkSimplyFlower, I'm trying to find the module file name06:54
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jmoncayoslavik, like i want to use Application.Terminate(); in one button can i use that command or is a different one in glade06:55
clichedaddius, C/C++/Delphi compilers + GUI builder + ....06:55
slavikjmoncayo: then you want glade06:55
slavikjmoncayo: I don't know06:55
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slavikglade only builds the gui06:55
sethkSimplyFlower, the docs say the driver name is de4x5.ko06:55
daddiuscliche, how about emacs and gcc?06:55
sethkSimplyFlower, so, cd to /lib/modules06:55
slavikjmoncayo: look into gtk, tht is what glade uses06:56
sethkthen do this:   find . -name '*de4x5*' -print06:56
clichedaddius, they are articles06:56
dabaRdaddius: install build-essential06:56
jmoncayoslavik, well delphi 7 does the same thing but you can make code for the button for example with pascal code06:56
crimsunr3dick: ok, where does it fail to boot?06:56
clichedaddius, nano+hexedit+gcc is enough06:56
slavikI don't think Glade would allow you to do it06:56
sethkSimplyFlower, the directory from my original ubuntu install has the file06:57
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slavikcliche: hexedit isn't nice ... text rendering is off06:57
daddiuscliche, how is nano?06:57
jmoncayoslavik, is gtk like a programming language?06:57
dabaRjmoncayo: or monodevelop+gtk#06:57
daddiusgtk program lang is c06:57
sethkjmoncayo, gtk is a set of libraries06:57
clichenano/ee is good06:57
N2DIYSimpleFlower, just run "modprobe de4x5", the card should come up.06:58
sethkjmoncayo, you access them typically with c++ although you can use other languages as well06:58
sethkN2DIY, that's true06:58
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jmoncayooki06:58
sethkN2DIY, I think he's gone06:58
clichewho?06:58
sethkN2DIY, ingrate  :)06:58
daddiuscliche, since at my job we have emacs on all servers so i figure i spend some time learning it.. I hate the lack of indenting on it06:58
N2DIYsethk, who's gone?06:59
sethkdaddius, emacs has the best indenting of any editor06:59
sethkN2DIY, simplyflower06:59
slavikdaddius: emacs indents :)06:59
pip_how to install mono ?06:59
clichedaddius, :)06:59
SimplyFlowersethk: give me a minute... have to change computers again brb06:59
sethkdaddius, it has totally configurable smart indenting for dozens of languages06:59
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slaviksethk: maybe that is a problem :P06:59
N2DIYsethk, nope.06:59
daddiussethk, it indents true..  but out of the box it doesn't indent.. also i got it to indent with c++ but now i can't indent with perl. :-(06:59
newbuntuwhats the best way to rip a dvd to your harddrive?07:00
ic56daddius: emacs is programmable.  You can make it do anything, including toast (assuming your toaster is networked).07:00
slaviksethk: do you know if there is a way to install anjuta 2.0 along side with 1.2?07:00
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clichedaddius, you words suit for the program dummies07:00
sethkdaddius, it has c++, c, perl, java, out of the box07:00
daddiustrue07:00
r3dickcrimsun, after line loading linux comes the error i8042.c cant read CTR while init i8042.  Then continues booting to login prompt.  by the way I removed splash from menu.lst to see errors if any.07:00
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sethkdaddius, you just need to say M-x perl-mode07:00
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PORDOi'm logged into a machine where i'm trying to change my password with passwd, and it keeps complaining that my password is a reverse dictionary word, or too short, or whatever.  isn't there some way to override this BS?!07:00
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daddiusnot indenting.. perhaps i am wrong..07:00
sethkPORDO, sudo passwd username07:00
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sethkPORDO, e.g.  sudo passwd pordo  (if your user name happens to be pordo)07:01
z0rzHey I just installed a lamp server but when I try to view a php file.. in firefox... it tries to download the php file instead of vieweing it07:01
crimsunr3dick: wait, the system boots fine with -686?07:01
sethkPORDO, root can override the rules07:01
daddiussethk, mmmmm M-x perl-mode?   now is that the meta key?07:01
clichedaddius, emacs is made in korea07:01
daddiusle tme try now07:01
z0rzIs that because I don't have php loaded in apache.. or is it because I don't have the right MIME types setup in apache?07:01
FilipinoDXBwhat's the terminal command to access my Windows partition? it can be seen by my browser.07:01
daddiuscliche, figure it was gnu07:01
sethkdaddius, esc-x  or alt-x07:01
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z0rzAnyone?07:01
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slavikFilipinoDXB: cd is what changed the current directry07:02
arrickDid IdleOne change his/her name?07:02
clichedaddius, because it has anything, just not to come ture yet07:02
daddiussethk, I solute you ... I can see all the perl modes... now if I could only get this working07:02
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clichedaddius, hahahaha07:02
daddiusalso everyone i tend to run X and like to ssh into systems at work and do things..07:02
daddiusbut i found out that i can't do it with ubuntu07:03
daddiusi did it with cygwin07:03
sethkdaddius, sure you can07:03
no_no_noyay i found help: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/BootingClientsWithoutPxe07:03
daddiusbut hey screw cygwin07:03
sethkdaddius, I do it all the time07:03
daddiusi did the xhost + thing07:03
daddiusto disable all hosts and what not07:03
sethkdaddius, I use the same .ssh directory in cygwin and ubuntu07:03
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daddiusbut when i say something like export display=$ssh_connection:0.007:03
daddiusdoesn't wokr07:03
daddiuswork07:03
clichelol07:03
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ic56daddius: display should be uppercase07:04
daddiussorry i install ubuntu on a 710m laptop and i got big hands07:04
daddiuslol07:04
r3dickcrimsun,  It boots to the login but the keyboard and mouse are dead, like no interrupts are being generated.  I am guessing between the 386 which does not have the i8042 error and the keyboard mouse work and the 686 which displays error and keyboard is dead is an indication to someone who know about the kernel might point me to how to figure out whats wrong07:04
skplcan someone tell me why when i re-install ubuntu previous installations show up on my grub boot menu?07:04
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daddiusic56, yes i didn't want to be disrespectful in irc07:04
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mrgenixuslooking for a way to configure alsa for ac '97 sound  (i810 flavor) on a debina-based liveCD (gnome 2.12-live) the card is recognized and identified by lspci, but alsamizer returns 'function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such file or directory' and while the gentoo manual indicates thi can be correcte by running alsaconf this appears to be a gentoo-only tool, since I can't find it on this CD07:04
daddiusi am woundering if there is someting blocking my accesss... or is it my .ssh directory07:05
daddiusmmm07:05
clichemmmmmm07:05
tapoxHi everyone, I'm being annoyed by a usability quirk that Ubuntu has, and I'm wondering if I should file a bug for it.07:05
tapoxIt07:05
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tapox*It's just so small, I'm not sure if filing a report is worth it.07:05
daddiusthe only thing i have against it07:06
arrickubotu tell tapox about fixres07:06
daddiusubuntu07:06
daddiusis the wireless part07:06
tapoxOh, nevermind, it was my pwn problem.07:06
Madpilottapox, what's the bug?07:06
daddiusi didn't know wha network i was on07:06
daddiusbut i fix with some wireless radar program and all is fine07:06
skplcan someone tell me why when i re-install ubuntu previous installations show up on my grub boot menu?07:06
sethkdaddius, I don't know, but I have password-less login from ubunto to fedora, to slackware, to other ubuntu of course07:06
daddiusyeah07:06
RobyXAnyone know where I can find a download for  sun-j2re1.5 everything is down.07:06
sethkdaddius, and logging into ubuntu from slackware and fedora and cygwin07:06
arrickskpl, cause you didnt delet the original partition07:06
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_jasonubotu: tell RobyX about javadebs07:07
sethkRobyX, java.sun.com07:07
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Iceman_Anyone know a place to get Nextstep or Openstep ... Operating systems ?07:07
daddiussethk, i can login fine.. the thing is I would like to fire up emacs..07:07
daddiussethk, I really need to work on getting a passwdless access07:07
skplarrick, yes i did. and they no longer show up in the ubuntu partitioner07:07
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arrickskpl, are you dual booting?07:08
N2DIYsethk, I guess it worked? Or Flower would have been back by now?07:08
tapoxMadpilot: I wanted some more screen space, and so I made the Ubuntu panel act somewhat like Windows'. However, whenever I aim blindly by moving the mouse to the bottom left corner and click, the Ubuntu logo's hit radius is so small that I need to focus my attention on it.07:08
sethkN2DIY, hope so07:08
sethkdaddius, are you using ssh with -X ?07:08
skplarrick, yes07:08
mpg123hi07:08
mpg123pipz07:08
N2DIYsethk, Roger roger.07:08
Madpilottapox, use the multiple desktop feature - the four grey boxes in the lower-right corner - for more space07:09
daddiusyes07:09
arrickskpl, you need to rewrite the grub cause with dual boot, it only adds the new grub to it07:09
mpg123i need help pls07:09
daddiussethk, yes ssh -X07:09
daddiuslet me try again07:09
sethkdaddius, I run emacs on all my boxes07:09
pip_anyone who uses mono ?07:09
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obaketenshiHi, all. I have an iBook G3, and recently installed Breezy. I can't get it to sleep properly - or rather, it sleeps,l but it won't wake up. Anyone have any suggestions?07:09
sethkdaddius, you must have a configuration parameter not quite right07:09
pip_I need help07:09
dabaRpip_: for what?07:09
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clichepip_, is mono still alive?07:09
mpg123any one knows why mpg123 dies when run under cron?07:09
arrick!ask07:09
obaketenshiI'm not sure if I need to patch he kernel or not07:09
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.07:09
tapoxMadpilot: I'd just like more room for a single web browser window. It isn't an issue of many windows open at once.07:09
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arrick!enter07:09
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.07:09
mpg123pls07:10
daddiussethk, i am thinking it must be that07:10
pip_cliche, yes07:10
daddiusi have a debian box here i should try it07:10
N2DIYsethk, but now she/he needs to install the command in /etc/modules, no?07:10
pip_cliche, mono is a project ,do you know ?07:10
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tapoxMadpilot: Is there any way to bind the super key to open the GNOME main menu?07:10
clichepip_, only in the ms?07:10
sethkN2DIY, yes, I'm sure07:10
mpg123anyone?07:10
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pip_dabaR, Do you use mono ?07:10
no_no_nookay dumb question... how do i use a floppy disk?07:10
ic56mpg123: what command line are you using?07:10
clichepip_, ha ha ha ha07:10
dabaRfor what?07:10
mpg123anyone have any idea why mpg123 dies when runned under cron?07:10
pip_cliche, no,it is for many platforms07:10
no_no_noim trying to do : ./install.s07:11
mpg123mpg123 -z --list playlist07:11
dabaRno_no_no: you put it in, right? Maybe you will have to mount it:-/07:11
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NafaiIs there a place other than the Language Selector in System -> Administration where the language choice is set?07:11
pip_cliche, can you help me ? if you use mono07:11
mpg123it runs on bash though07:11
holy_cowno_no_no, put the floppy in, select places/computer07:11
no_no_noand it says : mknod : 'dev... permission denied07:11
Madpilottapox, I think there is, but I've never done it myself07:11
dabaRNafai: login screen07:11
mpg123ive put it also in a script....07:11
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clichepip_, I am waiting for the FREE mono07:11
dabaRmpg123: nohup?07:11
mpg123and it runs... but when the script is runned under cron.. it dies though07:11
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ic56mpg123: how did you setup cron to run the command?07:11
pip_cliche, it is free07:11
no_no_nooh nevermind.. sudo07:11
tapoxMadpilot: Okay, thanks anyway.07:11
mrgenixusis there a support chan for the gnome 2.12 live?07:11
N2DIYSimpleFlower, Hello, how'd did it work out?07:11
holy_cowno_no_no, that script is trying to create a node in /dev ... why are you running that? what will it accomplish?07:11
clichepip_, free beer != freedom07:11
mpg123* * * * * username mpg123 -z --list playlist &07:12
no_no_noits installing tomsrtbt07:12
Madpilottapox, so far, I've just put up with having a totally useless key on my keyboard... :P07:12
no_no_noonto a floppy07:12
mpg123and the $path is good07:12
pip_cliche, I have downloaded mono from its offical webpage ,but I dont knwo how to install it07:12
tapoxno_no_no: Just go into Computer and click on floppy drive. It should mount automatically.07:12
dabaRcliche: stop that.07:12
Madpilotpip_, mono is available in ubuntu's repos07:12
pip_cliche,maybe you are right07:12
clichedabaR, stop what?07:12
dabaRpip_: do you ever use synaptic to install?07:12
no_no_noit wont mount.. i dunno why07:12
slavikso, who knows how to install a package along size another package?07:12
mpg123my logs says it runs mpg123 and starts streaming... then it dies07:12
no_no_nobut itll format07:12
holy_cowno_no_no, what? it should just write to floppy, i think somethings messed up.  no need for priviledge escelation07:12
dabaRmpg123: nohup, already.07:12
mpg123yup07:12
clichedabaR, should I disapear like the reporter?07:12
dabaRmpg123: nohup command & stays running.07:12
ic56mpg123: so you put this line in a file and you said crontab <file> ?07:12
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daddiuscliche, did it again07:13
mpg123dabaR: yup. ive used nohup also07:13
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no_no_noi think this is how edubuntu sets up this acct07:13
holy_cowno_no_no, are you sure you have an image to write to a floppy? thats what tombrt usually comes in, use something else to write image to floppy07:13
daddiusunable to set07:13
no_no_noif i sudo it works07:13
dabaRcliche: no.07:13
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pip_dabaR, I have downloaded a new version mono which is 1.1.15,but in synaptic there is a 1.1.8,so ...07:13
mpg123yup... then i change it to a bash script.. and it dies still07:13
holy_cowno_no_no, why are you using tombsrta anyway? that sounds weird07:13
daddiusin a default install would it have some sort of firewall setup in ubuntu?07:13
SimplyFlowersethk:  i'm back.  i got the message "no such file or directory."  tried the modprobe de4x5 and it didn't do anything... what now?07:13
mpg123but if i run the bash script it work though07:13
pip_Madpilot, do you use it ?07:13
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slavikdaddius: firewall is in the kerne;07:13
ic56mpg123: when running things from cron, neither nohup, nor backgrounding via `&' are necessary -- cron does these for you.07:13
Madpilotpip_, I run a couple of Mono apps - Muine, mostly07:13
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sethkSimplyFlower, that's odd.  you are running with the ubuntu install kernel?07:14
daddiusslavik, could that be it?07:14
daddiusmmmm07:14
no_no_noim following these instructions : https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/BootingClientsWithoutPxe07:14
slavikdaddius: look into firestart (gui for that kernel)07:14
no_no_nowhat's dd?07:14
mpg123ok. but my log says... it starts mpg123 and tries to play a file... then it dies..07:14
sethkSimplyFlower, because I checked, and it's on all three of my ubuntu boxes07:14
mpg123is there a possible problem with devices?07:14
dabaRno_no_no: man dd07:14
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obaketenshiAnyone knowlegable about G3 iBooks and their associated sleep bug?07:14
pip_Madpilot, how do you find it |?07:14
arrick!sleep07:14
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick07:14
mpg123im totaly lost...07:14
SimplyFlowersethk:  i installed breezy using the install cd i made from the install iso.  it worked fine on my other computer07:14
sethkno_no_no, man dd     a copy program that works at a very low level07:14
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dabaRno_no_no: even a drive is a file.07:15
holy_cowno_no_no, ah so whats the problem? just follow th einstructions ... they seem correct.  don't forget sudo07:15
no_no_nook07:15
tapoxQuestion 2: I installed a program called Gajim, a jabber IM client. Whenever I login to GNOME, it appears, yet it isn't listed in the things to launch when my session is started. How is this launching?07:15
sethkSimplyFlower, it works fine on this computer also.  the question is why you don't have that module07:15
Madpilotpip_, if you just want to run mono apps, try just installing muine - that'll pull down whatever it needs07:15
sethkSimplyFlower, you might need to reinstall the kernel.  You're sure you typed it as I wrote it?07:15
holy_cowyes and dd is already on your system for sure, if not install it with synaptic07:15
mpg123is there a probability that mpg123 could not access alsa or the devices needed to play?07:15
no_no_nohow are you supposed to know or learn all this?07:15
sethkSimplyFlower, it's the tuplip driver, which is a very common one07:15
N2DIYSimpleFlower, just run "sudo modprobe de4x5", I keep forgetting about Ubuntu's sudo user stuff!07:16
no_no_noi dont have a CS degree.. i write grants07:16
pip_Madpilot, I want develop app with mono ,in fact I want to use C#07:16
sethkno_no_no, you are supposed to learn how to look things up07:16
holy_cowno_no_no, the same way any kid learns anyone, just osmosis07:16
sethkno_no_no, for what do you need dd, anyway?07:16
holy_cowno_no_no, you are mistaken about how much you need to know, it seems overwhelming at first07:16
dabaRsethk: he posted a link to his instructions.07:16
arrickno_no_no, you give me a grant and I'll teach yo uhow to use your computer with ubuntu07:16
SimplyFlowersethk:  i typed:  find .-name '*de4x5*' -print07:16
ic56no_no_no: you can learn by reading the manual.  Start with `man intro'07:16
no_no_nomkay.07:16
holy_cowno_no_no, you don't need to knkow too much more than on windows, its just that everyone has 15 years of training on win07:16
no_no_nowhat's man?07:16
Madpilotpip_, hmm, check Synaptic - the developing stuff for mono/C# is all there, but I don't program so I'm not sure what exactly to look for07:16
dabaRholy_cow: haha07:16
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mpg123can i have a private chat with anyone.. regarding mg mpg123 problem?07:16
Madpilotno_no_no, manual files07:17
cliche...07:17
daddiuscan't scan my own port07:17
no_no_noahh07:17
dabaRno_no_no: command in a terminal.07:17
sethkSimplyFlower, the current directory had to be /lib/modules.   try find /lib/modules -name '*de4x5*' -print07:17
holy_cowno_no_no, but you do need to know a little bit more than on windows to not remain a tard and do stupid things like install spyware deliberately07:17
holy_cow>_>07:17
arrickno_no_no, it pulls up the manual for the program you are trying to use07:17
no_no_noahh kewl thanks07:17
clicheinfo > man07:17
dabaRcliche: pah07:17
no_no_noim trying to set up 7 computers for kids to use in a lab07:17
slavikholy_cow: how much spyware is written for *nix?07:17
pip_Madpilot, thanks07:17
no_no_nothey were windows xp home... and it was a mess to keep them up to date07:17
sethkno_no_no, give that URL again.  I can't imagine why you would need dd07:17
clichehowto > readme > info > man07:17
slavikwoah!!!!!!!!07:18
dabaRno_no_no: did you see there is an edubuntu installation CD?07:18
holy_cowslavik, i just saw a piece of firefox extension that looked like spyware actually07:18
holy_cowi wish i  had a link07:18
no_no_nothis tech guy wanted to install a pirarted version of windows terminal server07:18
no_no_nohttps://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/BootingClientsWithoutPxe07:18
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no_no_noits done with the floppy07:18
slavikholy_cow: but that is for firefox, not for *nix :P07:18
clichethe source > howtos07:18
N2DIYholy_cow, who cares, setup tripwire, and you'll catch em.07:18
no_no_noi downloaded the edubuntu cd to install it for the SERVER07:18
holy_cowcross platform ... most windows spyware is trickery surrounding free software, people install it willingly. it will come here too07:18
dabaRcliche: stop that.07:18
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no_no_nobut the clients i need to use a floppy not all have CD07:18
sethkno_no_no, you want to boot diskless workstations using 10 year old hardware?07:18
no_no_no7 years old..yah07:19
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arrickhahahahahahha :^(07:19
SimplyFlowersethk:  i did change directories to /lib/modules before typing find, but will try again... brb07:19
sethkno_no_no, that is for machines that have no disk at all07:19
no_no_nothey have hard disks.07:19
no_no_noand floppy07:19
sethkSimplyFlower, double check, because as I said it is there on all my machines and none of them even have a card of that type07:19
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no_no_nobrb07:19
sethkno_no_no, then those instructions are totally irrelevant07:19
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no_no_nowhat??07:19
arrickno_no_no, are these clients in the dumpster?07:19
no_no_nosomeone else said they make sense..they seem fine to me07:20
no_no_noclient in the dumpster?07:20
sethkno_no_no, pxe is a protocol for booting diskless workstations from a network server07:20
no_no_nono theyre P4 1.4 GHz with 256 MB07:20
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no_no_nothey dont have PXE07:20
holy_cow7 yaer old systems are still quite powrfull07:20
sethkno_no_no, are you trying to do a network install, perhaps?07:20
no_no_nono!07:20
holy_cowi have a whole bunch of 1ghz machines, throw enough ram into them and they are fine07:20
no_no_noi know what im trying to do.07:20
dabaRsethk. no_no_no: heh07:20
arrickno_no_no, you know a cd rom doesnt run very much, and you can move it from pc to pc right?07:20
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no_no_noits keeping them all administered thats the problem07:21
dabaRarrick: nice07:21
sethkno_no_no, the link you posted is about network booting07:21
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sethkno_no_no, if you don't want to do network booting, you don't need to understand those instructions07:21
SimplyFlowersethk:  found it this time.  now what?07:21
holy_cowits clear we need some sort of gui with step 1, 2, 3 instructions for things like this07:22
holy_cow*hmm*07:22
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no_no_nookay.. if thats not what i want to do then tell me what its called?07:22
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sethkSimplyFlower, did you try the modprobe command?07:22
holy_cowno_no_no, what re you trying to do exactly? i'm confused now07:22
no_no_noi have 7 lab computers07:22
no_no_noi want kids to be able to sign in with their name07:22
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SimplyFlowersethk:  i did but will try again... brb07:22
arrickno_no_no, I wasnt ehre when you posted your question, exactly what are you trying to accomplish?07:22
no_no_noand have  a place for their files no matter which computer they are on07:22
no_no_noand it looks the same wherever07:22
sethkSimplyFlower, you may have to use insmod with the full file name  (the name you found with the find command)07:23
N2DIYSimpleFlower, you found the module? Then do "modprobe module name".07:23
sethkno_no_no, you just need NFS07:23
arrickyep07:23
holy_cowi think he is trying to run thinclients, which makes the most sense actually07:23
no_no_nowhats the difference between LTPS and NFS and where's a guide on how to do that07:23
holy_cowi wouldn't install anything locally07:23
holy_cownfs is basically a full install with your /home mounted over network07:24
arrick!nfs07:24
ubotuI heard nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.07:24
holy_cowltsp is a thinclient ... all the software is on the server, the client machine boots everything over the network, like you seem to be trying to setup07:24
no_no_nothat means i only have to maintain one machine?07:24
holy_cowcorrect07:24
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no_no_nothen thats what i want!07:25
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no_no_noi dont care about the computers its the time spent keeping them in working order07:25
arrick!ltsp07:25
ubotuI heard ltsp is the Linux Terminal Server Project - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto (for Breezy), https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSPHowTo (pre Breezy).  See also http://www.ltsp.org/07:25
slavikok, sethk want to help me do a good thing?07:25
no_no_noi have those up.. thanks :)07:25
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arricknp07:25
N2DIYWhat's ubotu mean?07:25
slavikN2DIY: nothing actually07:25
no_no_nois there someway to setup a default desktop and have each kids account start out like that?07:25
arrickPeople Freedom, see www.ubuntu.com07:26
slavikarrick: he meant ubotu, not ubuntu :P07:26
holy_cowno_no_no, i've not setup thinclients my self so i cant help you, closest i did something like that was setting up remote access to xsessions via nomachine.com software07:26
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no_no_noahh07:26
arrickN2DIY, ubotu is a bot, that gives out info, sorry, been up too long07:26
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mpeg123anyone07:27
arrick!ask07:27
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.07:27
mpeg123any idea about mpg123 running on background?07:27
arrickslavik, yeah i cought that as my eyes started watering07:27
slavikheh07:27
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slavikarrick: want to do a good thing?07:27
arrickIm working on a @#$$#^* windows xp box for a client right now07:28
arrickslavik, whats that?07:28
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holy_cowno_no_no, plug away at it, the biggest problem is just having the network card driver for your thinclients available on the bootdisk ... which is what you are trying to do, those instructions look right to me07:28
holy_cowthe rest is just configuring a bit the network settings and off you go07:28
slavikarrick: build anjuta 2.0.1 with all 3 plugins and make sure that it doesn'toverwrite anjuta 1.2... :D07:28
slavikand give me the deb07:28
arrickhaha07:28
no_no_nohttp://www.rom-o-matic.net/07:29
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mpeg123can anyone help me pls?07:29
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slavik!mpg12307:29
no_no_nothis place lets you put the driver on a floppy after you format the HD with the other tool07:29
mpeg123?07:29
arrickslavik, write a bot for it, they are cool07:29
mpeg123slavik, ?07:29
slavikhmm07:29
holy_cowcool, i've not heard of that before07:29
slavik!tell mpeg123 about mpg12307:29
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N2DIYmpeg123, no, we can't, you have to ask a question first. If you already did, it has scrolled off my screen, sorry.07:30
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arrickmpeg123, just ask your question, if someone know they will answer07:30
Double_Danyone: i'm having some trouble getting the right resolution options for my monitor.  i know my monitor will support 1600x1200, but can't seem to get that option to show up.  any ideas?07:30
arrick!fixres07:30
ubotuit has been said that fixres is Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:30
Double_Dthanks, arrick.07:30
arricknp :6)07:31
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N2DIYBouble_D, go to/system/preferences/screen resolution, and play there.07:31
mpeg123my problem is that i have this script that i put on cron07:32
mpeg123it should run mpg123....07:32
arrickhey slavik you want to setup a recoding wtudio box for me, while i do all my projects I have here?07:32
SimplyFlowersethk:  i'm back.  tried several times but got the same message:  FATAL: Module de4x5.ko not found.  even tried including the directory and changed into the directory.  now what?07:32
arrickstudio eve07:32
mpeg123it runs the script but dies when it starts streaming an mp3 file07:32
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arrickNight guys07:34
N2DIYSimpleFlower, loose the .ko on the command, or try .o If that doesn't work try using "insmod" and then the module name.07:34
sethkSimplyFlower, instead, do   insmod /full/path/to/de4x5.ko07:34
Double_DN2DIY: way ahead of ya on that one.07:34
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SimplyFlowerN2DIY and sethk:  will try.... brb07:35
nickrudarrick, we're all still here, just watching you :)07:35
Double_DN2DIY: only have three options there and not the ones I want.  i've put the horiz and vert sync that's correct for my monitor into the xorg.conf file and restarted X, but says the frequency is out of range.07:35
mpeg123does anyone have any idea?07:35
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ic56mpg123: you must give us more details.07:36
Double_Danyone: when i run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and i get to the part to select resolutions, what's the actual key to press to select/deselect a resolution?07:36
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N2DIYBouble_D, Ok, try Ctrl+Alt+(+or-), and see if that works for you?07:37
starkeshey, would anyone out there know why azureus would report that my connection is firewalled and not work whatsoever, but bittornado seems to work fine?07:37
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Double_DN2DIY: aso, thanks.  i'm gonna get to a VT quick and try that.  brb (hopefully in 1600x1200).07:37
starkesalso, with identical settings on my windows partition, azureus works fine. same version and everything.07:37
holy_cowpoor guy googled the wrong refresh rates for his moni07:38
holy_cowheh07:38
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Guest309HI07:39
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N2DIYholy_cow, I hope not, that is a good way to burn down your house!07:39
skplis there any way to remove the words from my gnome menu, so that there is just the ubuntu logo?07:40
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nickrudskpl, not without hacking the applet code probably07:41
holy_cowN2DIY, well, x does the whatever calculations automatically now (i guess for quite a few years now), it's been a while since one was able to start a fire that way :)07:41
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aaron__heya... what is ./07:42
N2DIYholy_cow, this is good.07:42
nickrudholy_cow, I was trying to visualze my monitor exploding, but I just couldn't07:42
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ic56aaron__: ./ is the current directory07:42
aaron__how do I copy a file to a floppy in terminal?07:43
nickrudskpl, the closest I've come to that is changing thye logo next to the text07:43
aaron__or where do i look to get help on that?07:43
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aaron__i tried "help" but dunno which command it is07:43
holy_cowaaron__, cp /some/file /media/floppy07:44
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nickrudaaron__, that is a way of saying, 'the current directory'07:44
Double_DN2DIY: didn't work.  Ctrl+Alt+(+/-) still didn't select or deselect the options.07:44
holy_cowDouble_D, i strongly urge you to regoogle  your refresh rates07:45
holy_cowthat is all you got wrong07:45
holy_cowget them right, re\start x, and you will have the available res for that setting in system/settings/resolution or whatever07:45
nickrudaaron__, often used to make sure that the command you are running is using command in the current directory. Why are you asking?07:45
aaron__can i drag and drop in the terminal?07:45
N2DIYBouble_D, did the screen image change?07:45
holy_cowaaron__, no but you can copy paste07:46
aaron__im trying to copy a file to a floppy and dont have permissions in the gui so im sudoing07:46
holy_cowhow can you not have permission in gnome?  you mean when you go to places/ computer / floppy ... you can't open floppy?07:46
aaron__it wont mount.07:46
holy_cowtry anothe floppy maybe? just curious07:46
aaron__sorry - i was no_no_no07:47
aaron__the wifi cut out..07:47
Double_DN2DIY: no.  i just regoogled the refresh rates, per holy_cow, and get the same numbers but with decimals after (i.e. 30.0 instead of 30).  would that make a difference?07:47
Double_Di'll give it a shot with the decimals and see if that works.07:47
holy_cowDouble_D, nope.07:47
ic56aaron: what is the error message when you are unable to mount the floppy?07:47
holy_cow*hmmm*07:47
holy_cowaaron__, that doesn't sound right, try another floppy, i've seen that in some weird situations07:48
aaron__places : computer: FLOPPY DRIVE07:48
aaron__this is the second one07:48
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holy_cowsame error?07:48
N2DIYBouble_D, so nothing got bigger or smaller? Weird, Ubuntu isn't playing with your video controller.07:48
aaron__when i did sudo stuff in the terminal it worked fine before on the other one07:48
aaron__unable to moutn the volume07:48
aaron__given UDI is not mountable07:48
holy_cowwell yes because sudo runs the command as root, root has power to do anything07:48
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nickrudaaron__, I haven't used a floppy disk in at least a year, I've forotten how :)07:49
aaron__this is in edubuntu.07:49
holy_cowaaron__, lets change the perms on the floppy mount07:49
aaron__its prob set up the permissions weird.07:49
mpeg123hi pips... how can i run a script in cron... where it will fool the script that it runs under a terminal07:49
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mpeg123it should fool itself that its running under a terminal?07:49
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ic56aaron__: are you sure the floppy is formatted?07:49
RugHowdy all07:49
aaron__owner is ROOT and everything is greyed out in gnome.07:49
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aaron__yah i can format it fine with floppy format07:50
holy_cowaaron__, well of course, you aren't running as root,you logged in as another user07:50
SimplyFlowersethk and N2DIY:  i'm back.  tried the insmod /fullpath/de4x5.ko got the following error: insmod: error inserting '/fullpath/de4x5.ko: -1 File exists.  tried the modprobe without ko didn't help.  i am noticing when i type the full path  for modprobe the terminal changes my dashes (-) to underscore (_).  doesn't happen with insmod.07:50
holy_cowthats because floppy format asks for password, which means it runs as root07:50
holy_cow>_>07:50
aaron__yah :)07:50
N2DIYOh no, another Bug in the system! Hi bug. :)07:50
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RugHow are the other insomniacs doing tonight?07:50
nickrudis floppy that bad these days :)07:50
RugN2DIY: I'm good thanks07:50
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aaron__you dont know how long i had to dig to find one of these.07:51
aaron__arcane.07:51
Rugnickrud: everybody wants floppies to go away07:51
holy_cowlol too much trouble to bother with07:51
aaron__they die if you look at them.07:51
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Rugwell it seems all the email I get tries to help with that07:51
nickrudI copied a few files from my last floppies to a cd, Rug07:51
Double_Dholy_cow, N2DIY: that got it.  stupid significant digits.... thanks a million.07:52
holy_cowaaron__, system don't have cd's? well i guess you want student to  be able to use those ...07:52
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holy_cowDouble_D, weird, but okay, cool that it works07:52
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nickrudOllie Ollie In Free, no one needs to understand floppies :)07:52
holy_cowwe need some additional gui stuff to the resolution picker to let people select monitor make and model like on suse07:53
N2DIYSimpleFlower, forget the path, just do "sudo modprobe module name" or insmode instead of modprobe. Linux can be funny with path names.07:53
Rugyeah that would be nice07:53
nickrudholy_cow, yes07:53
nickrudI hope that get's stolen for eft07:53
holy_cowheh07:53
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holy_cow*mmhhmm*07:54
nickrud*stolen*07:54
shekhar__can someone help me install acroread plugin on firefox 1.5 on dapper?07:54
fogoshi... someone how i can put on a direct access from desktop the next command: "cd /file/folder" then put "sudo ./load" its for load a driver that is on that folder07:54
holy_cowshekhar__, don't do that it's evil07:54
holy_cowshekhar__, instead, install evince07:54
holy_cowterrific pdf reader07:54
Rugshekhar__: the Dapper support channel is:  #ubuntu+107:54
shekhar__ok07:54
SimplyFlowerN2DIY:  i tried but nothing happens.  it just gives me the prompt again.07:54
RugEvince is awesome07:55
holy_cowyou want to always read pdf docs in a standalone app, pdf is a hell of a document to shove into a web browser via plugin07:55
xerophytecan i able to split the tar archive file into small parts ?? i have huge folder which has 12G of data07:55
fogossomeone have a inspiron 6400 on ubuntu?07:55
aaron__okay.. trying to copy to a floppy here07:55
aaron__ive read cp --help07:55
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holy_cowaaron__, what you need is dd07:55
shekhar__holy_cow:  thanks for your help07:56
shekhar__holy_cow:  if what i am trying to do is evil, then most of the world is evil07:56
heroinhi i messed up my drivers and now i cant see anything? can i startup a terminal before gnome starts or something?07:56
holy_cowaaron__, what you would do is sudo dd /dev/whatever /pathe/someimagefilename07:56
shekhar__holy_cow:  that's not exactly the ubuntu spirit methinks07:56
holy_cowaaron__, then you would just dd it out to the flopp with sudo dd /file /device07:56
aaron__this is what im typing : cp eb-5.4.2-eepro100.zhd /media/floppy ? but i know thats not right07:56
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Rugheroin: if you hit Ctrl + alt + F1 that will give you a terminal to login with07:56
holy_cowshekhar__, just do it the right way and stop acting like a windows dip07:57
nickrudaaron__, you really need this floppy back then07:57
heroinbut after gnome starts everythng is fubar07:57
holy_cowshekhar__, just because windows users think it is fine to stuff every application into a browser doesn't mean you should07:57
shekhar__holy_cow:  i have never used windows in my life07:57
Rugheroin: did you try Crtl + Alt + F1 ?07:57
heroini will when i get out of bed07:57
holy_cowshekhar__, in that case you are aware of the principle of using the right tool for the right job07:57
RugFFS then why ask for help?07:57
holy_cowlet a browser render html, use a pdf reader to render pdf07:57
N2DIYSimpleFlower, nothing happend, and a new prompt? This is good! Now try "sudo ifup eth0"07:57
nickrudaaron__, we make fun of floppies, only because I had to use them. Whart do you need to do?07:58
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holy_cowkeep your life simple is all my advice means. beyond that, suit your self.07:58
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heroinkeep life simple get linux :( not really07:58
lrojaswhere can i find the iso for the dapper version of ubuntu?07:58
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diomedesthis having to use sudo all the time is getting annoying07:58
heroinIrojas u can just upgrade a breezy install07:58
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SimplyFlowerN2DIY:  ok... brb07:58
Nafaidiomedes: If you want to have a root prompt, just do sudo su -07:59
nickrudheroin, no, it's keep life (or at least this part of it) under control: use linux07:59
holy_cowheroin, linux is simple, but simplicity depends on your perspective.  people conveniently forget how many years they have spent on either mac or windows and think picking up a new os will take 5 minutes07:59
holy_cowit just isn't so07:59
Rugif simple = virus+adware+spyware=0 the Linux is simple07:59
monsterbHow do switch to superuser in Nautilus?07:59
holy_cowthen again, its not that hard either, but it is simple07:59
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kurimawguys... what's nautilus? is it a software where i can access?07:59
heroinRug but linux+games+drivers=not simple07:59
RugUse the right tool for the job08:00
carthikmonsterb, gksudo nautilus .08:00
holy_cowmonsterb, well you don't switch to super user, you start nautilus with super user perms as in: sudo nautilus if you need to08:00
carthikkurimaw, nautilus is the file manager in Ubuntu/GNOME - the equiv of Windows explorer, so to speak08:00
RugThere are LOTS of Linux native games, several are VERY fun too.08:00
holy_cowdiomedes, one says that at first coming from debian maybe, but it is an excellent technique for keeping your self from doing stupid things via carelessness08:01
aaron__ok im ready to tear it up.. i cant copy this freaking thing to the floppy because i dont know the syntax of a command line08:01
RugIf you are crying because you can't get FarCry to work, well Linux is not windows08:01
aaron__cant i shift click and run as root or something ?08:01
holy_cowaaron__, i gave you the basic idea ... where are you stuck?08:01
carthikaaron__, shift click what?08:01
monsterbcarthik, holy_cow - ok thanks - I was in the middle of copying files - i was hoping i could switch to superuser without restarting Natilus.08:01
aaron__sudo cp filename /dev/ ? then what?08:02
diomedesi was just never a fan of sudo08:02
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SimplyFlowerN2DIY:  i'm back.  got the following: Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth008:02
carthikaaron__, use "sudo" before the command to complete the action as a superuser, without permissions.08:02
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holy_cowmonsterb, no and when you start nautilus with superuser privileges, anything it copies will have those priviledges too08:02
Rugdiomedes: I use su all the time.  I never use sudo.08:02
carthikaaron__, /dev/fd0 is usually the floppy drive08:02
aaron__whats the floppy called? c: is hda right?08:02
holy_cowaaron__, no dude08:02
aaron__:/08:02
carthikaaron__, well, C is not always hda08:02
nickrudaaron__, two things08:02
holy_cowaaron__, dd /dev/devicename /path/to/file/image/to/create08:02
carthikaaron__, type $mount08:03
nickrudone, we're all venting08:03
neirasif you want a root prompt, "sudo -s"08:03
holy_cowaaron__, then dd /path/to/image /dev/devicename08:03
carthikaaron__, that will tell you all the mounted filesystems08:03
baconbaconlol everybodys on aaron08:03
aaron__lol08:03
holy_cowis it /dev/floppy on ubuntu? i forget i never use that08:03
nickrudtwo, you'll mount your floppy in the filesystem, and copy your files to that place08:03
aaron__ok08:03
aaron__lemme try that08:03
N2DIYSimpleFlower, ignoring it? So it knows it is there, but it won't play with it, interesting. I'm at a loss.08:03
neirasdd if=/path/to/image of=/path/to/device08:03
holy_cow!xgl08:04
monsterbholy_cow - once a file is in /home - will i have all priviledges without superuser?08:04
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nickrudaaron__, sudo mount /dev/fdo /mnt08:04
holy_cowmonsterb, it depends on how you copied it there.  if you copy it as the user, then it gets user perms, if you copy it as any other user it gets that users ownership.08:04
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N2DIYSimpleFlower, maybe you can try some modules that are in the same family? Google search for them?08:05
monsterbholy_cow - thx08:05
sethkN2DIY, it's a tulip; that's the correct driver08:06
aaron__omg that worked08:06
aaron__thank you!!!!08:06
sethkN2DIY, it's even the older form of tulip08:06
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aaron__mount /dev/fd0 /mnt08:06
nickrudaaron__, I apologize for being a few sheets to the wind :)08:06
aaron__now there's something called mnt in the computer browser08:06
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RugI forget, how do I get GDM/XDM/whatever to be launched at startup?08:07
thatGuy_anyone got an answer for flash on amd64 cpus?08:07
aaron__fuck. i cant drag and drop. why is this set up like this.08:07
nickrudaaron__, that's normal08:07
holy_cownickrud, ummm, you really need to give them cleaner instructions bro08:07
nickrudaaron__, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone08:07
holy_cow./mnt is not a very good idea08:07
aaron__mmkay08:08
nickrudholy_cow, there is no better place to mount than /mnt08:08
holy_cowyou told him to mount it AS /MNT not IN /mnt/whatever .. yes?08:08
N2DIYSimpleFlower, Ok according to sethk, it needs the tulip module, modprobe, or insmod tulip, or tulip.o, and see if that works??08:08
nickruduntil you've defined a permanent mount point08:08
aaron__fstab??? wtf?08:08
holy_cowi would of put it in /mount my self .. /mnt is just weird but anywhoo :)08:08
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SimplyFlowerN2DIY:  ok... brb08:08
aaron__oooh to do this now im using what i learned 'sudo gedit'08:09
sethkN2DIY, no, the module he's been trying to use _is_ the tulip module08:09
holy_cowlol i mean /mnt/whatever oh nm :)08:09
nickrudholy_cow, that's why /media was used for auto mounting stuff, to leave /mt available for the admin08:09
holy_cowaaron__, your picking pu quick :)08:09
holy_cownickrud, yeah but hes mounted it as mnt :) he might potentially have something already in there ... but i digress :)08:10
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ubuntuis there a good introduction to linux out there?08:10
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aaron__nano? wow08:10
nickrudholy_cow, he won't. Unless he named it. But you're right, we digress :)08:10
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holy_cowubuntu, wiki.ubuntulinux.org is a great start08:10
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holy_cownickrud, :) i shutup now08:11
ubuntuthanks08:11
holy_cowhehe08:11
N2DIYubuntu, yes look for the rute manual.08:11
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ubuntusweet, see ya08:11
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stjepanwhat do you think of tabbed window managers?08:12
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s|k!nvidia08:12
ubotuhmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736808:12
necroX/Gnome displays only at 640x480 resolution max because I cannot figure out how to configure my 3Dfx Voodoo 3 with dri/glx enabled because I can't seem to enable bus mastering on my system.  Is there a generic video driver I can use to display at 1600x1200 resolution without direct rendering?08:12
aaron__how do i get rid of that floppy drive : mnt thing?08:12
N2DIYsethk, ok, gravity is starting get strange here, and my video procesors are acting weird, it's probably best if I log out.08:13
holy_cowumount /mnt08:13
aaron__oh i guess thats another thing i have to do as root?08:13
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nickrudaaron__, sudo umount /mnt08:14
SimplyFlowerN2DIY: i'm back.  insmod returned with no such file.  modprobe tulip took me back to the prompt.  what now?08:14
aaron__im doing that08:15
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sethkSimplyFlower, it can't give you "no such file" if you give it the full path to the file08:15
aaron__....08:15
sethkSimplyFlower, which is what I told you to do.  that was the purpose of the find, to get the path08:15
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nickrudaaron__, floppies are like usbsticks in windows, you mount them, and before you take them out you 'eject/unmount' them08:16
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SimplyFlowersethk: i typed the full path, but the terminal is changing my dashes (-) into underscores (_).  i don't know why.  therefore, the path it is reading is incorrect.08:17
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sethkSimplyFlower, then cd to the directory and use ./filename08:18
aaron__another dumb question08:18
sethkSimplyFlower, but the shell (the terminal is just a display device) does not change dashes to underscores.08:18
N2DIYSimpleFlower, modprobe gave you a prompt, god, try " ifup eth0" again.08:18
aaron__does linux wait until unmount to write changes to floppies?08:18
sethkSimplyFlower, tell me exactly what you typed08:18
aaron__thansk for your help with the fstab08:18
N2DIYI meant good not god!08:18
aaron__i went to terminal and did mount /dev/fd0 and dragged and dropped what i wanted...but didnt see a light on tht floppy drive08:19
holy_cow!xgl08:19
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aaron__then I did umount /dev/fd0 and it came on08:19
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aaron__well see08:19
holy_cowaaron__, heh no08:19
aaron__oh no!08:19
nickrudaaron__, that's easy. It's because linux assumes you're more interested in reading than writing. It'll sync when you're not reading, or when you say,, umount08:19
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holy_cowaaron__, everything in /dev are physical device nodes08:19
N2DIYSimpleFlower, can you see the card with lsmod, or lspci?08:19
holy_cowyou cant umount that08:19
holy_cowyou can only mount the locations you mounted those devices to08:20
SimplyFlowersethk:  i typed: modprobe /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/tulip/de4x5.ko08:20
aaron__wwell it looked like it worked08:20
holy_cowso if you do mount /dev/thisdevice /to/this/location08:20
aaron__!!08:20
ubotuaaron__: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:20
holy_cowyou do umount /to/this/location08:20
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aaron__i dont understand that abstraction.. i dont know where things are at08:21
holy_cownot yet give it time08:21
aaron__something is on the desktop and i want it on a floppy08:21
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holy_cowthere is too much to absorb in one night, it will all fall into place shortly08:21
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nickrudholy_cow, do you have a floppy in hand?08:22
nickrudcuz I don't08:22
ic56holy_cow: you are mistaken.  umount will accept either the device or the mountpoint as its argument.  The device argument is the older usage (from the 70s)08:22
N2DIYSimpleFlower, try "modprobe tulip", or "modprob de4x5" forget the paths, and let linux figure them out.08:22
holy_cownickrud, nope i just setup a mini pc :) no floppy anywhere, i'm actually not installing cdroms anymore either, everything is network based08:22
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holy_cowoh i stand corrected, what ic56 said08:22
holy_cow*nod*08:23
SimplyFlowerN2DIY:  don't understand what you mean.  but will try the ifup eth0 again... brb08:23
nickrudholy_cow, cuz I recognize what you're saying, we just don't have the device in hand :)08:23
holy_cow*nod*08:23
RugI am having problems with my printer.  Cups is asking for a login/pass (when I access it via 127.0.0.1:631)  I have tried my root and user pass.  What am I forgetting?08:23
N2DIYSimpleFlower, ok just remember to prefix everything with sudo, I'm new to Ubuntu too, so I keep forgettig that.08:24
nickrudRug, sudo adduser cupsys shadow && sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart , then try the :631 again.08:24
Rugnick Thansk08:24
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holy_cownickrud, please don't tell them to that08:25
nickrudRug, using your sudo self08:25
holy_cowdamnit08:25
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nickrudholy_cow, what other way is there?08:25
holy_cowRug, there is no html gui frontend meant to be accessible via ubuntu08:25
holy_cowother way for what?08:25
holy_cowuse the damn gui08:25
nickrudholy_cow, I've used lynx for that without a gui08:25
holy_cowwhy?08:25
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holy_cowubuntu is a desktop, use the gui provided08:25
_harmhi08:26
nickrudholycow, hm. point08:26
N2DIYLynx is a cli client!08:26
RugNo.  I can't   AND  I'm using fluxbox so the gnome crap isn't there08:26
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holy_cowRug, okay in that case what nickrud said08:26
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Rug=)  ok will-do08:27
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SimplyFlowerN2DIY and sethk:  i'm back.  i've done everything as instructed.  still no go.  and yes i'm using sudo everytime... forgot to mention that.  anything else?08:27
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HedgeMageRug: if you add yourself to the group lpadmin you should be able to access the webmin using your username and pw08:28
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clichehi?08:28
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clicheanybody here?08:28
RugHedgeMage: thanks08:28
Rugcliche: nope08:28
mzinzFor some reason when Ubuntu is booting, it will stall on "initializing network interfaces" for 3-5 minutes.. it happens 80% of the time.  Anyone have any clue why?08:28
clichehahaha :)08:28
ic56!justask08:28
ubotuAsk your question and we'll try to answer it.08:28
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ic56mzinz: do you use DHCP?  If so, it could be the DHCP server is slow to respond to you.08:29
N2DIYSimpleFlower, yes, is this a laptop? Make and model?  Laptops can be strange.08:29
HedgeMageRug: np... mind you, I'm already on dapper so there's an off chance it's different if you're not... /etc/cups/conf.d will have a line in it specifying which group can admin cups :)08:30
sethkmzinz, you are configured for DHCP but there is no dhcp server on your network08:30
clicheok... a question: when is the usb wireless card has its own driver?08:30
nickrudHedgeMage, it wasn't sufficient for breezy08:31
RugHedgeMage: no, it's all good.   Thanks for the tip.08:31
holy_cowyour question doesn't make a lot of sense, careto rephrase a bit cliche ?08:31
PORDOis there a version of the kernel i can get through apt-get that has the low latency or realtime lsm thing or whatever?08:31
holy_cowoh wait, broken english, parsing error08:31
holy_cowlol08:31
SimplyFlowerN2DIY:  no... its a generic built desktop with an AMD Athlon 550 MHz, 256 Mb ram, 2 hard drives08:31
HedgeMageRug: np08:31
holy_cowcliche, generally speaking if it doesn't exist now, your manufacturer will never release one08:31
sethkSimplyFlower, you have to understand that what you are telling us isn't correct, because it can't happen that way.08:31
clichethere is pci one, no driver for the usb type08:31
cliche:(08:31
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holy_cowcliche, the rule of thumb is hardware manufacturers have little to no clue about open source, and a lot of them have driver issues with even windows so expect little08:32
sethkSimplyFlower, you couldn't have done a cd to the directory, and an insmod of the file from that directory08:32
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RugG'night all08:32
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sethkSimplyFlower, because, had you done it, it either would work or you would get an error message08:32
holy_cowcliche, as with anything, you must research first and make sure th ehardware is supported08:32
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clicheholy_cow, d a m i t i t08:32
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N2DIYSimpleFlower, ok, has it ever had linux on it?08:33
holy_cowcliche, people are lazy, cruel and shortsighted.  it can be a beautiful world, everyone simply chooses to not make it so08:33
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nickrud's definition when it comes time to buy a lapton08:34
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holy_cowi buy laptop with the exclusive note that all the chipsets are supported.08:34
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holy_cowheh08:35
nickrudSomeday I'll find a vendor who'll let me boot my own darn cd,  and test it08:35
SimplyFlowersethk:  i did change to the directory... my prompt reads as the following: chirpie@ubuntu:/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/tulip$08:35
holy_cowacer has a linux laptop you can buy ... its super low end but it works08:36
holy_cowyou should be able to buy one without windows08:36
HymnToLifeall of HP stuff works great with Linux too08:36
nickrudcheap is god , holy_cow :)08:36
sethkSimplyFlower, ok, and what command did you type in from there?08:36
clichethe second question: is there a high-end laptop totally designed for linux/bsd?08:36
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sethkcliche, "designed for" is microsoft propaganda.  there is no such thing08:37
OhzieIs there a way that I can upgrade from breezy to dapper with synaptic?08:37
clichesuch as: "designed for linux/bsd" tags08:37
ice_1963i got my laptop for $50 :)08:37
HymnToLifenow THAT would be fun08:37
sethkcliche, you can buy a tag maker08:38
HymnToLifeA "Designed for *nix" sticker on a laptop :p08:38
clichesuch as: "we recommend you to use linux/bsd" tags08:38
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OhzieIn reference to a laptop for linux/bsd08:38
sethkcliche, why would they do that?  they make no profit if you use linux or bsd08:38
OhzieI have a recommendation08:38
holy_cowcliche, one day perhaps08:38
OhzieAnything with an nVidia card. ;D08:38
_harmwhere is the source.list locatedD?08:38
HymnToLifesethk> to look kewl08:38
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sethkcliche, they sell you windows and mark it up08:38
OhzieThe older dv5000's from HP are ridiculously awesome for linux. Run Ubuntu like a dreeeeeaaaaaam08:39
HymnToLife_harm> /etc/apt08:39
h4ch3rthey waked up08:39
HymnToLifeOhzie> all HP stuff does08:39
clichesethk, hahaha, nice oke08:39
clichesethk, hahaha, nice joke08:39
sethkcliche, I have ubuntu running on four laptops08:39
sethkcliche, it isn't a joke, it's perfectly serious08:39
holy_cowyou know i don't trust hp for anything but printers08:39
sethkcliche, they are running a business.  their purpose is to sell you stuff for more than they have to pay for it08:39
OhzieSpeaking of ubuntu...can I upgrade to dapper drake from breezy via synaptic! :D08:40
holy_cowall their towers are monstrous pieces of crap08:40
sethkcliche, they aren't going to put a tag on their box that says "please, pay us less"08:40
h4ch3rI use ltsp 4,2 in ubuntu dapper. but do not obtain to initiate xserver in the stations!  :(08:40
holy_cowand their laptops have historically been primed for proprietary components08:40
HymnToLifeI have had thee HP laptops and one desktop, all of them ran Ubuntu like a charm08:40
clichesethk, even they sole you the sh*t?08:40
sethkholy_cow, hp laptops have awful keyboards08:40
h4ch3rI am with problem in lts.conf....nao I obtain to initiate xserver in the station08:40
SimplyFlowersethk:  i've tried everything i was told.  i typed sudo modprobe de4x5.ko, sudo modprobe de4x5, sudo modprobe de4x5.o, sudo modprobe /fullpath/de4x5.ko, sudo modprobe /fulpath/de4x5, sudo modprobe /fulpath/de4x5.0 ... the same was typed using insmod instead of modprobe.08:40
jmgas long as it boots08:40
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sethkcliche, microsoft gives them free advertising and all sorts of incentives so you use use windows.08:41
holy_cow*nod* their tower cases suck dell ass, and dell is as bad as it gets for bad case design imho08:41
sethkSimplyFlower, none of those are what I told you to type08:41
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sethkSimplyFlower, everything I type is significant.  you can't leave parts out.08:41
OhzieMicrosoft's new advertising service launches on the second of May.08:41
h4ch3rthey alquem uses ltsp 4.2?  or it has lts.conf that it can pass me08:41
h4ch3r????????????????????????????????????????????????08:41
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sethkSimplyFlower, type insmod ./de4x5.ko08:41
h4ch3rHELP ME08:41
clichesethk, is that behave legal?08:41
h4ch3r=(08:41
sethkSimplyFlower, if you leave out the ./, it isn't going to work08:41
HymnToLife!helpme08:41
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.08:41
holy_cowOhzie, what does it do? spam your windows install or what?08:41
holy_cowcliche, actually no08:41
sethkcliche, of course.  they are quite up front about their purpose.  they are in business to make money08:42
holy_cowcliche, they have been convicted of monoply practices in the us and eu now08:42
OhzieIt's basically like google's search sponsered ads, but for msn search./08:42
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holy_cowcliche, us didn't want to do anything because it would cost them jobs08:42
holy_coweu is going through the appeals process now for that08:42
nanoHi, I needed a resource to help me learn how to enable 3d support from scratch...any leads?08:42
sethkcliche, holy_cow is correct, there is a chance the e.u. will force them to change.  never happen in the us08:42
clichesethk, even they make too much money already?08:42
holy_cowcliche, basically its up to us to make the change and educate those areound us08:42
holy_cowcliche, the only way freedom will win is if we change our selves and our culture08:43
clichehahaha08:43
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sethkcliche, I've been working in seattle lately, in a building where Paul Allen has his office.  Two blocks from there are a dozen homeless shelters.  People begging for food, lining up for blocks for free meals.08:43
holy_cowcliche, why are you laughing? ubuntu is only 3 years old08:43
holy_cowcliche, its one of the biggest distros on th eplanet08:43
sethkcliche, they could feed all these people and never even feel it.  they don't08:43
holy_cowlots can happen, you just haveto have the willpower08:43
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holy_cowbut poitn being, mark had no clue this was going to happen when he started it08:44
clichewill-power?08:44
SimplyFlowerN2DIY:  it has never had a linux installed, but has run PuppyLinux, and SystemRescue from the cd that uses linux and has gotten an internet connection with both.  It also has installed on it windowsXP08:44
holy_cowlook at mozilla, they have a staff of 30 now08:44
holy_cowwho knows give it time08:44
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holy_cowmicrosoft didn't become microsoft overnight08:44
holy_cowit took them 30 years08:45
etmntcan somebody please help me. My applications menu pops up for a second and then it disapears and I see a small 3x3px square!08:45
aaron__ugh08:45
etmntI don't want to reformat again08:45
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etmnt:(08:45
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etmntany idea?08:45
aaron__on startup i get error 17 from grub : http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=12080208:45
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holy_cowetmnt, i have never heard of that08:45
holy_cowetmnt, what are your systetm specs?08:45
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ice_1963well uninstall windowsxp08:45
etmntAXP 3200+, 1GB, 680008:45
etmntit worked an hour ago08:46
etmntnow stopped...08:46
Imsdlei have setup my ubuntu as an Internet gateway but it is not very reliable... anyone got any suggestions08:46
h4ch3rtrident 2MB08:46
sethkSimplyFlower, why don't you type the command in correctly and tell us what message you get08:46
Imsdleit works sometimes but not others08:46
etmntI don't know what to do, I can't afford to reformat again08:46
clichethe third question: if Bill could restart again, would he join the free source camp?08:46
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SimplyFlowersethk: i'm sorry.  so many messages coming through... must have missed that one about ./ ... will try now... brb08:46
holy_cowetmnt, ati video card?08:46
etmntI even tried to add the other gnome menu where it's just 1 button, but same exact thing happens08:46
etmntnvidia 680008:46
holy_cow*hmmm*08:46
etmnteverything was fine an hour ago, but it started happening08:46
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etmntplaces and system work08:47
holy_cowthat sounds driver related ... not sure what to say actually, i've never heard of that issue08:47
etmntbut applications doesnt08:47
N2DIYSimplyFlower, winders is the problem, I think? It doesn't like playing with other operatig system, on the same hard drives, or even partitions.08:47
etmntapplications pops up for a single second and then disapears08:47
holy_cowetmnt, well try this08:48
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RobyXUh what was the command to install from Desktop "C ~/Desktop" or something like that?08:48
holy_cowopen up a terminal and startup something like gedit from terminal08:48
holy_cowlook for error messages08:48
RobyXI accidently removed my command list -_-08:48
clicheetmnt, disappear?08:48
etmntgedit opens fine08:48
etmntyeah08:48
holy_cowRobyX, install what?08:48
holy_cowetmnt, what about other applications?08:48
clicheetmnt, weird :(08:48
etmntit comes up and disapears, places and system work fine though08:48
etmnt:(08:48
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ic56aaron__: are you sure your boot partition is the 2nd partition on that disk?08:49
RobyXI remember installing .deb files I had to put something so I can install it from the desktop08:49
etmntevery app runs fine but applications disapears. I don't know what to do08:49
holy_cowetmnt, are you running breezy or dapper?08:49
etmntbreezy08:49
etmntI been running very nice for about 2 weeks and this happend an hour ago, no idea why08:49
etmntso I restart08:49
clicheetmnt, which application?08:49
etmntand same thing08:49
aaron__ic56 there should be NOTHING else on the disk right?08:49
etmntjust "Applications" the menu08:49
aaron__im trying to put grub on a thin client08:49
etmntwhen I click it I see the list08:49
etmntfor a second08:49
etmntthen it disapears08:50
ice_1963it's a gnome bug08:50
aaron__i used fdisk on a floppy to take all the partitions off08:50
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holy_cowetmnt, you don't put grub on a thinclient08:50
etmnthuh?08:50
holy_cowsorry that was for aaron08:50
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aaron__holy_cow : thats what the instructions said to do : https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/BootingClientsWithoutPxe08:50
ice_1963if your useing gnome 2.1408:50
holy_cowreally? that doesn't sound right08:50
cliche2.14? lol08:51
ic56aaron__: you have configured grub to boot from the local hard disk.08:51
aaron__im at the bottom : Delete all existing partitions with the d key, then make a new one with the n key. (A small partition is fine). Activate the partition you created with the a key, then press w to write it to disk and exit.08:51
aaron__B08:51
etmntteag08:51
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etmntyeah*08:51
etmnt2.1408:51
etmntno08:51
etmnt2.1208:51
aaron__it asks should it be primary or extended.. i dunno08:51
aaron__i make it primary... then it wants a number.. so i picked 108:51
aaron__but i have no idea08:51
etmntI even loaded failsafe gnome08:51
etmntsame problem08:51
holy_cowaaron__, that should be fine08:52
aaron__this problem is on 2 computers08:52
ice_1963well i'm running 2.14 :0)08:52
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ice_1963deb08:52
ice_1963sid08:52
cliche*sigh*, a bug in a live-cd is horrible08:52
aaron__:/08:52
cliche:|08:52
holy_cowit just means grub can't find the kernel08:52
holy_cowor whatever08:53
aaron__17 : Cannot mount selected partition08:53
aaron__This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB.08:53
_nano_how do I install a graphics driver?08:53
etmntanybody know of any .deb files f 2.14?08:53
aaron__theres all this arcana about fixing it08:53
_nano_glxinfo says "direct rendering: no"08:53
aaron__but its greek08:53
SimplyFlowersethk:  i'm back.  typed sudo insmod ./de4x5.ko got the following:  insmod: error inserting './de4x5.ko' : -1 File exists.  then typed:  sudo modprope ./de4x5.ko got the following: FATAL: Module ./de4x5.ko not found.  did i type it right this time?08:54
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etmntI really don't want to reformat again08:54
sethkSimplyFlower, don't type modprobe when I tell you to type insmod08:54
aaron__im ready to put windows back on these things.08:54
holy_cowaaron__, wow you got that far eh?08:54
holy_cowis this your first time using linux?08:54
aaron__yah08:54
sethkSimplyFlower, ok, you got an error inserting the module.  then you got file exists.  that's almost certainly because the module is already inserted08:55
holy_cowlol you need to do more research, but sure put windows back on08:55
sethkSimplyFlower, do lsmod, see if de4x5 is listed08:55
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holy_cowhave fund cleaning perpetually win boxen of spyware :) you are so close bro don't give up08:55
aaron__but itll be a mess... i dont want a mess. i just want it to work.08:55
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holy_cowwhy not give it a night and continue later08:55
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aaron__lol.08:56
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SimplyFlowersethk:  ok... i will type ismod and see what is listed... brb08:56
holy_cowlooking at those instructions tho, thats pretty simple to setup, i'm not sure where the problem is right now.  fixing a grub related issue can be tricky... especially over irc :)08:56
holy_cow*hmm*08:56
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etmntcan anybody help me? I can show you want I mean with VNC08:57
aaron__thanks for your help... everyone.08:57
AnAnthow can I disable tap-to-click in Xorg ?!08:57
AnAntI tried setting MaxTapTime to 008:58
AnAntbut it didn't work08:58
holy_cowaaron__, okay basically you seem to either have messed up the partition08:58
holy_cowor you messed up the floppy08:58
aaron__lol. this is on 2 computers that this happens08:58
holy_cowaaron__, fixing that is rather tough over irc08:58
holy_cowaaron__, your making the same mistake twice08:59
plutonashello, I convinced a friend of me to intsall linux across with windows on his computer, and he choosed ubuntu. He downloaded the disk, and burned it on a cd, and now wants me to go, install it, configure it and show him something about linux. What do I need to know and what should I have with me? I think I need partion magic for ubuntu right? what else?08:59
aaron__i think i messed up the partitions coz it doesnt look like what the instructions say08:59
holy_cowit happens a lot when you try to force your self to do something, particularly when you expect it to work like windows and its not windows08:59
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holy_cowaaron__, thus08:59
holy_cowyou can just go back to the partition bit08:59
holy_cowand retry08:59
skeffis there a console/terminal apt frontend?08:59
aaron__i did that.08:59
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aaron__resized it from 4886 or something to 1024 whatever that means08:59
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PORDOcan someone tell me how i'd remedy the problem of not having gtk-config found?09:00
holy_cowtry again damnit :)09:00
AnAntskeff: apt-get ?09:00
aaron__lol09:00
skeffAnAnt, with ncurses interface or something09:00
AnAntskeff: oh, dunno09:00
aaron__editing the registry is more fun than this09:00
holy_cowaaron__, the instructions don't seem to be asking you to resize09:00
jmgplutonas: are you a linux newbie?09:00
holy_cow*sigh*09:00
aaron__they dont..09:00
holy_cowthen go edit a registry09:00
holy_cowlol09:00
plutonasjmg, no I'm not, but not an expert either09:00
plutonasI'm a newbie at ubuntu, never seen them installed09:00
holy_cowjesus, why is it that noobs always expect everything instantly? knowledge isn't free09:01
jmgplutonas: if you need to resize a partition the best software is partition expert, if he has windows xp09:01
etmntanybody have a deb package of gnome 2.14... I guess thats my only hope09:01
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plutonasbut I use debian for the last 3 weeks and befora that fedora and mandrake09:01
jmgplutonas: read the wiki09:01
aaron__hmm...?09:01
plutonasjmg, link?09:01
jmgplutonas: installing is identical to debian09:01
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ic56aaron__: there's a lot of disks on that box.  How do you know that your SCSI disk is hd2?  I suspect you have grub installed on one of the IDE disks and that is the one that's being invoked.09:01
bluelotusreturn (blah) if (blah), else false?09:01
bluelotusoops09:01
jmgplutonas: except ubuntu uses sudo09:02
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aaron__huh?09:02
jmgplutonas: wiki.ubuntu.com09:02
plutonasjmg, I see and there isn't support for mp3's dvd etc right?09:02
aaron__on the computer im putting it on theres only one HD09:02
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aaron__and in fdisk i deleted all the partitions and tried to make a new one09:02
holy_cowand?09:02
ic56aaron__: please name the person you are addressing.  "huh?" doesn't tell me if you are confused by what I said or by what holy_cow said.09:02
holy_cowdid you write the changes back?09:02
aaron__oh.. yah w09:03
holy_cowallright ..09:03
aaron__then i did this dd if=/mnt/eb-5.4.1-3c90x.zhd of=/dev/hda109:03
N2DIYGoodnight, 73 N2DIY09:03
aaron__if the thing that i download wasnt for the right ethernet card it wouldnt cause this problem...09:03
holy_cowdid it indicate a successfull write?09:03
SimplyFlowersethk:  i'm back.  typed lsmod got:  Module: de4x5  Size: 43424  Used by: 0  (tulip was there also)09:03
AnAntis there an unstable repository for Ubuntu ?09:04
ic56aaron__: did you previously have linux installed on this machine?09:04
holy_cowAnAnt, no09:04
aaron__yah something like 50+109:04
sethkSimplyFlower, ok, then you successfully inserted the module, probably an hour ago or more.  It's there.09:04
aaron__yes ic56 there was straight ubuntu on it before09:04
holy_cowAnAnt, ubuntu IS debians UNSTABLE just polished and frozen09:04
sethkSimplyFlower, do ifconfig -a, see if your interface shows up09:04
N2DIYBelay my last.09:04
AnAntholy_cow: u mean, there is no debian package of gpm version 1.20 ?09:05
SimplyFlowersethk:  ok... will type ifconfig -a ... brb09:05
ic56aaron__: you probably still have a grub installed in the boot sector of the disk from your previous installation.  You have 2 copies of grub09:05
ic56 and the old one is the one being invoked.09:05
aaron__ahh09:05
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aaron__how do i fix that?09:05
holy_cowAnAnt, it would depend on debian not ubuntu.  ubuntu just freezes their unstable every 6 months ... on debian new stuff is always dropping in you shouldcheck there09:05
holy_cowic56, excellent point actually, i'm drawing a blank take over :)09:06
N2DIYSimpleFlower, does lsmod tell you what iterface the card is using, eth0 or something like that?09:06
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nickrudaaron__, I don't think you do.  of=/dev/hda109:06
jmgplutonas: its in the wiki search for RestrictedFormats09:06
jmg!dvd09:06
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)09:06
ic56holy_cow: I don't remember how to correctly clear the boot sector.09:06
AnAntholy_cow: could I add debian unstable repository to Ubuntu's apt-get ?09:07
jmg!wiki09:07
skeffAnAnt, found it, aptitude is the command, or dselect for a less fancy one.09:07
AnAntskeff: for what ?09:07
AnAntskeff: oh ok09:07
holy_cowAnAnt, nope, not binary compatable, not for any particular reason than you can't mix rapidly moving targets09:07
plutonasjmg, thanks09:07
jmg!mp309:07
ubotuhmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:07
ic56nickrud: hda1 is different from hda.  The boot sector of the disk isn't overwritten when you dd of=/dev/hda109:07
aaron__one thing that seemed weird : when in fdisk and trying to delete partitions it first said pick 1-509:07
AnAntskeff: cool, thx09:07
aaron__then after I deleted 1 of them, it said pick 1-4..But wouldnt delete them coz it said they were empty names or something09:08
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skeffAnAnt, heh, if you care, somebody else might care, but either way, now you may know it. For the time when you lose your ati or nvidia driver09:08
AnAntholy_cow: u mean I can add the source not binary repository?09:08
AnAntskeff: well, I am mostly on virtual console09:08
nickrudic56, I was thinking that whatever he had on hda1 (usually windows or it's backup) was hosed09:08
aaron__theres NOTHING on these09:08
holy_cowAnAnt, i would presume so, never done that tho ....09:08
zithhow do I figure out free hard drive space on each of my drives?09:08
AnAntskeff: are u good at linux console ? I have a couple of problems here09:09
AnAntzith: df -h09:09
holy_cowaaron__, chances are there is,most windows users don't know anything about boot sector and thats always there after a reformat09:09
AnAntzith: that's for mounted partitions09:09
nickrudic56, if I came in late enough that that was wrong, that's just fine :)09:09
zithAnAnt: thanks :)09:09
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aaron__:/ a volunteer installed ubuntu earlier in the week and formatted all the drives during the install09:09
AnAntnp09:09
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holy_cowaaron__, thats the problem09:09
holy_cowaaron__, your old ubuntu bootsector is looking for the OLD ubuntu kernel09:10
SimplyFlowersethk:  i'm back... still not showing.  i've got:  lo   Link encap: Local Loopback     and     sit0   Link encap: IPv6-n-IPv409:10
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AnAntI got a problem with Ubuntu's virtual console09:10
AnAntwhen I press Shift+PageUP , I get this:09:10
AnAnt[4296178.253000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).09:10
fogoshi someone knows on what folders are the videocard drivers of xorg?09:10
AnAnt[4296178.253000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.09:10
AnAntanyone knows what I should do ?09:10
sethkSimplyFlower, ok.  the lo is loopback; it has nothing to do with hardware.  sit0 is a virtual ipv6 interface which also  is not relevant.09:10
aaron__hmm.. okay holy_cow...09:10
N2DIYsit0? What's that?09:11
sethkSimplyFlower, what I would normally do in a case like this is to rebuild the kernel with the driver compiled into the kernel (instead of using a module).09:11
sethkN2DIY, that's an ipv6 thing, ignore it.09:11
N2DIY70-409:11
sethkN2DIY, your systems will likely show it if you do ifconfig -a09:11
N2DIYwhoops, I meant 10-409:12
sethkN2DIY, :)09:12
sethkSimplyFlower, odds are it still won't work, though09:12
holy_cowaaron__, what i don't get is how the instructions they gave you have anything to do with a bootloader, i don't see how a  bootloader would know where your dd'd image is09:12
sethkSimplyFlower, where did the information about the NIC's chip set come from?09:12
aaron__i dunno.09:12
holy_cowic56, any ideas?09:13
sethkholy_cow, from a network server probably using BOOTP or PXE09:13
SimplyFlowersethk:  from device manager09:13
holy_cowsethk, should he then just dd out his bootsector?09:13
aaron__i am setting up a lab of thin clients09:13
aaron__but they cant boot from the network09:13
holy_cow... yet09:14
holy_cowdon't give up dude09:14
aaron__so the instructions say to put something on the HD that will pull it over the network.. so09:14
_harmhow do i remove games from ubuntu?09:14
holy_cowwith synaptic harm09:14
sethkaaron__, you shouldn't have to resort to using dd09:14
_harmk09:14
sethkaaron__, if your hardware supports BOOTP, that's much easier.  Sometimes you need extra firmware on the NICs for bootp09:14
ic56holy_cow: the instructions for setting up thinclients assume a generic boot loader exists on the drive which will look in the first partition.  This is a reasonable assumption for new systems.09:14
sethkaaron__, or support in the BIOS09:14
holy_cowic56, ah okay09:15
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sethkaaron__, the thing with dd is a hack for machines that don't really support network boot09:15
aaron__ok09:15
aaron__theres no option in the bios to boot from ethernet09:15
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sethkaaron__, the thing is, any tiny detail will make that sort of hack not work09:15
RobyXWhat's a good torrent client for Linux09:15
PhilKCAzureus.09:15
RobyXOk ill try that09:15
PhilKCDon't use the package manager to get it...09:15
sethkaaron__, and unless you are good at the network bit level or have a hardware ethernet analyzer (or both), there isn't a lot you can do09:15
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aaron__i dunno what dd is.. im just doing the instructions :/09:15
holy_cowsethk, so it might be cheaper to just buy nick cards with pxe support eh?09:16
sethkSimplyFlower, do lspci, if you haven't already, see what it says about the NIC09:16
PhilKCRobyX, http://azureus.sourceforge.net, grab the bz2 from there, extract, and run...09:16
sethkholy_cow, sure, but if you are buying, do BOOTP09:16
sethkholy_cow, the server setup for BOOTP is basically trivial09:16
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PhilKCRobyX, The package manager version is... fubar.09:16
holy_cowreally eh?09:16
SimplyFlowersethk:  ok ... brb09:16
sethkholy_cow, you set up a tftp server09:16
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sethkholy_cow, bootp is much newer and much easier, at least to me.09:16
holy_cowhuh09:17
holy_cowthats neat09:17
aaron__brb09:17
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sethkhmm, according to this email I just got, I'm going to be the "man that women desire"09:17
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sethknone of the spam filters are worth a damn09:17
holy_cowseth bootp looks neat09:18
holy_cowthanks for the heads up09:18
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holy_cowseems all the onboard stuff is pix09:18
aaron__woah wait09:18
aaron__omg09:18
aaron__they can boot09:18
sethkaaron__, well, that was easy.  :)09:18
sethkaaron__, what did you do?09:19
holy_cowlol09:19
aaron__except the one where we had to replace the motherboard09:19
holy_cowsethk, you work effin magic09:19
sethkholy_cow, :)09:19
holy_cowaaron__, so what happened, you just had to wait?09:19
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aaron__we have 8 but the mobo got fried on one coz of the powersupply09:19
neutrinomassHello. I have a weird sound issue with ubuntu 5.10. The sound card is detected OK by the kernel and alsa. Programs play music, the volume is open, the speakers correctly connected but I can hear nothing. How does one troubleshoot such a situation ?09:19
sethkaaron__, must be different firmware on that mobo (or it's a different mobo)09:19
aaron__but it says its looing for DHCP and thers not one09:19
aaron__:/09:19
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sethkaaron__, that's easy to set up09:19
sethkaaron__, three minutes09:19
holy_cowaaron__, :) dude09:20
mephisto_hallo09:20
sethkneutrinomass, if it has a headphone jack, plug in a pair of phones and see if you hear anything09:20
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holy_cowdo you have any idea how advanced your stupid little project is for someone thats never seen linux?09:20
holy_cow:)09:20
sethkneutrinomass, make sure the levels are up on the input part of the mixer, not just the output09:20
SimplyFlowersethk:  i'm back.  lspci lists:  Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21142/43 (rev 30)09:20
holy_cowwelcome to linux where EVERYTHING is possible bro09:20
etmntanyknow know where I can get Gnome 2.14 in .deb?09:20
aaron__mka.. so i got the edubuntu server setup with 2 NIC one to the router and one to a hub with the lab09:20
sethkSimplyFlower, figures, that's where device manager gets it.  that's good confirmation.09:20
sethkSimplyFlower, do we know that this card works?09:20
sethkSimplyFlower, that it isn't simply broken?09:21
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AndyRRneutrinomass, use alsamixer in a shell to adjust levels09:21
neutrinomasssethk: The levels were all up, everything was unmuted! I've had my share of problems with sound, but I couldn't figure this one out.09:21
ic56aaron__: one of the machines has problems with DHCP while the others which are supposedly identically configured don't?  Something else must be going on.09:21
aaron__wait the NIC serving DHCP wasnt active09:21
SimplyFlowersethk:  yes, works fine with PuppyLinux, WindowsXP, and SystemResucue cd (linux)09:22
holy_cow*cough*09:22
N2DIYholy_cow, this crap is thirty years old, or older!09:22
sethkSimplyFlower, ok09:22
neutrinomassAndyRR: Yes, I tried that, everything was enabled and full volume. The speakers' volume was up too :P I also tried from gnome to select different sound cards (4 show up for no apparent reason) but it didn't work.09:22
holy_cowN2DIY, well the concepts09:22
holy_cowlisp basically invented everything all modern languages are re-implementing forever something like almost 50 years ago09:22
holy_cow:)09:22
holy_cowneither here nor there09:22
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holy_cowms is reinventing vms09:23
holy_cowbadly09:23
holy_cowheh09:23
sethkSimplyFlower, you probably won't like this idea, but what I would do is download the kernel from kernel.org, build, and install it.  That's the first thing I do with any distro, is get rid of the distro's hacked up kernel and use the vanilla kernel from kernel.org09:23
nickrudforth, if we're getting into language wars :)09:23
aaron__okay now this is easy. i just make the server the one with the weird mobo. that just means i switch the memory and HD09:23
sethkSimplyFlower, for me that's a trivial thing to do, but it would probably take you a couple of hours the first time you learn to do it.09:23
holy_cowaaron__, i have a question for you09:23
aaron__sure09:23
holy_cowaaron__, what on earth prompted you to do something this advanced without doing any research?09:23
holy_cowwhere is the benefit for you and the students?09:24
AndyRRneutrinomass, what soundcard/chipset is it?09:24
zithwhat's the recommended way to start a process and have it not terminate when exiting the shell?  i've used screen in the past :/09:24
holy_cowi mean its aprime example of hackerdom09:24
aaron__holy_cow09:24
aaron__coz i wanna get it done09:24
holy_cowjust go for it, its a big difference in philosophy from windows world09:24
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holy_cowi'm just curious09:24
neutrinomassAndyRR: It's a desktop computer. An Allegro PCI sound card, Sis chipset ....09:24
holy_cowaaron__, but why linux? you know nothing about it09:24
holy_cowaaron__, all windows users i've ever watched google for some software they can buy and click and run09:24
ic56zith: nohup <command> &09:25
holy_cowinfact, you could of done this with windows terminal services fairly easily09:25
neutrinomassIt's not my computer, it's a friends (his words were "What's this crap? Suse just worked here"), and he has no internet access.09:25
aaron__because that would require pirating software09:25
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zithic56: thanks for the pointer :)09:25
SimplyFlowersethk: ok.. how hard is it... what do i need to know... and how do i install it.... and what exactly do i need to install?  i'm a newbie to linux, but not to computers... do have some knowlege, but am a dinosaur got my knowlege almost twenty years ago.09:25
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holy_cowaaron__, ah! so purely out of financial reasons eh?09:26
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holy_cowaaron__, what will the students do on the box?09:26
zithic56: as a token of my appreciation, i give you an airplane hanger filled with fire-retardant foam: http://www.boingboing.net/2006/04/15/photos_of_malfing_fi.html09:26
aaron__holy_cow.... it just nags me when they get messed up and cluttered up with junk. i have a certian way i want them set up09:26
aaron__its a neighborhood computer lab09:26
aaron__people check email09:26
holy_cowahhhhhh09:26
holy_cownice09:26
aaron__play flash games09:26
aaron__and kids use gcompris09:27
holy_cowright for that you did the perfect thing09:27
aaron__thats really why i wanted it09:27
holy_cowvery cool09:27
N2DIY73, goodnite, morning, whatever, I'm goning to bed!09:27
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aaron__and people use open office09:27
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neutrinomassI may have to resort to dapper to get rid of that sound problem...it happens on the livecd too :(09:27
RobyXWhat's the command I use before the dkpg -i, to tell the computer where the .deb file is located?09:27
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holy_cowaaron__, nice09:28
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nickrudRobyX, it's cd /where/the/deb/is09:28
aaron__i dunno how to do this.. i write grants and fundraise and do stuff with volunteers during the day... i had some guy who was a computer expert try to keep these things set up and he was a total loser he didnt know anything09:28
DBORobyX, "dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb"09:28
sethkaaron__, the kids will love it.  they are too young to get intimidated by a little cli09:28
RobyXThanks09:28
aaron__and like all this pirated software got on here.. and he wanted to put windows sharepoint server (whatever that is)09:29
aaron__no!09:29
holy_cowsethk, in a weird way, thats a very sad thing to say09:29
nickrudaaron__, it's a good philosophy to introduce09:29
holy_cowaaron__, all ms products are designed to sell other ms products09:29
holy_cowthey say they are integrated but they aren't, they are just created to be vaguely interdependent09:29
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sethkholy_cow, it's true, people get intimidated.  they are afraid of typing 30 characters, I've never understood why09:29
holy_cowthey will suck money out of any non profit faster than you can say go09:30
holy_cowsethk, *nod* me neither09:30
aaron__we've saved over $5000 using this09:30
holy_cowat least09:30
aaron__ifi can figure it out, that is09:30
holy_cowdon't forget counting antispyware and antivirus software09:30
holy_cowlockdown software09:30
holy_cowmanagement software09:30
holy_cowcals09:30
aaron__thats what i had to do with windows09:30
holy_cowbackups and imaging software because all win install at minimium require it09:30
aaron__i had to search google and figure out how to hack the registry to disable and hide stuff09:31
nickrudaaron__, you'd get sufficient support on this server for you non-profit, I'd think09:31
holy_cowyour maintenance will be next to 009:31
holy_cowyour questions will go from how to fix this machine09:31
aaron__how do you get support?09:31
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holy_cowto how to use a tool to its best extent09:31
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nickrudaaron__, pay, or figure out who to ask :)09:31
aaron__aaaahh09:31
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holy_cowlol09:32
holy_cowi'm still giggling at the sharepoitn server idea for a lab09:32
holy_cowthats hillarious09:32
holy_cowaaron__, we are switching to linux09:33
aaron__whats that?09:33
holy_cowgetting rid of ms products is saving us $280 000 dollars09:33
aaron__omg09:33
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SimplyFlowersethk:  how do i install the new kernel?  you called it vanilla kernel... is that the actual name i'm looking for to download?09:33
holy_cowi can take half that money now and invest in training and software development to be rolled back into the community09:33
holy_cowor will anyway09:33
geanhi all !09:33
DBOhi gean09:34
aaron__wow09:34
holy_coweveryone wins09:34
sethkSimplyFlower, go to www.kernel.org.  Download the most recently released 2.6 kernel.09:34
sethkSimplyFlower, "vanilla" is a common way to describe it but not an official term you'll see anywhere09:34
sethkSimplyFlower, make sure you download the kernel, not patches.  Almost everyone who goes there downloads patches instead of the kernel the first time09:34
aaron__but no one who comes in if i leave will know anything about this09:34
DBOSimplyFlower, more to the point, when talking about computers, "vanilla" usually means plain or standard and unmodified09:35
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holy_cowaaron__, don't be so sure09:35
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sethkSimplyFlower, the site is a bit confusing.  the file you want will be called linux-2.6.15.6.tar.bz2  (probably the 15.6 is out of date and it will be 15.# or 16.#; just get the most recent)09:35
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holy_cowaaron__, you figured it in a day :) surely if one cares enough they can pick up the knowledge too09:35
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aaron__i need to get CS students from the university to do this..but I dunno what their jargon is to ask for09:35
sethkSimplyFlower, if the file name is not as I described it, you'll be downloading the wrong thing09:35
nickrudaaron__, just in case you haven't actually seen the front page for this irc server network, you should look at it. http://freenode.net/  It's intended for your useage.09:35
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aaron__ok09:36
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SimplyFlowersethk:  ok... can i save the download to cd so i can transfer it to the other computer?09:36
holy_cowask for students with linux experience, preferably ubuntu and the ltsp project09:36
holy_cowfrom there you pick who is available with whatever qualification09:36
holy_cowyou don't need a qualification09:36
sethkSimplyFlower, sure09:36
holy_cowyou need a student with the desire to learn09:36
holy_cowall linux users have that by default, itsjust how it is09:36
SimplyFlowersethk:  then i do i install it09:36
SimplyFlowersethk:  oops meant how do i install it?09:37
aaron__so i can go to a CS dept and ask for someone who knows linux to setup a lab of thin clients?09:37
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aaron__hmm09:37
tonyyarussoUh oh.  Any way to get the secret half of a gpg key back from a keyserver?  Or does it die with a machine?09:37
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sethkSimplyFlower, you extract it.  you go to /usr/src, and do:  tar xvjf ./linux-2.6.15.6.tar.bz2    (I'm assuming you've copied the tar file to /usr/src)09:37
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joel_I'm just trying out Ubuntu for the first time, I haven't messed with linux since Mandrake 6.5.  I've stuck mostly to FreeBSD and the more commercial variants, Solaris, MP-RAS, Unisys, HP-UNIX, etc.  I have to say...09:37
holy_cowaaron__, pretty much, depends on their internal structure.  usually they point you to their hire or placement deptments09:38
joel_I am impressed with Ubuntu.09:38
sethkSimplyFlower, there are good instructions on the kernel.org site09:38
holy_cowaaron__, you want to find a professor enthusiastic about open source first, they can give you a personal hand up tho09:38
DBOjoel_, yes, we like it too09:38
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neutrinomassjoel_: Nice :)09:38
ErpoI'm trying to compile a modular kernel, so I started with make allmodconfig, and then changed some things (like removing oss and isdn support, and deactivating smp). Then I followed up with a make, a make install, and a make modules_install. Then I ran mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.16.2 2.6.16.2 (that's the kernel version I just compiled), and then I updated /boot/grub/menu.lst to reflect the changed. When I try to boot with the new kerne09:39
Erpol, I get a kernel panic. What gives?09:39
nickrudtonyyarusso, if you search my name on the key servers, you'll see a couple of dead machines ;(09:39
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holy_cowokay time to try kororaa on this thin09:39
holy_cowbbl09:39
aaron__ah kewl thats a good idea09:39
SimplyFlowersethk:  ok... i will try it.  thank you for your patience and all your help.09:39
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tonyyarussonickrud: Gotcha.  So I should revoke this one and start over?  Oh wait, I probably can't even revoke it now can I?09:39
neutrinomassErpo: Unable to mount root? You can't have a totally modular kernel....support for your IDE controller and root filesystem should be compiled in the kernel.09:39
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Erponeutrinomass: It can't be compiled as a module and then loaded via initrd?09:40
nickrudtonyyarusso, probably not. If you didn't make revoke certificate and save it, you're just dangling in the wind09:40
tonyyarussonickrud: Oops.09:40
sethkSimplyFlower, understand that you could go through this and find out it doesn't fix it.  I think it's the best thing to try next, but I can't guarantee results09:40
ErpoI thought the boot loader was responsible for loading the initrd and making the necessary modules (including the hdd controller and root filesystem drivers) available to the kernel.09:41
geanSimplyFlower : to extract stuff in general : install the (ubuntu) package called     unp          (e.g. by synaptic), then simply type unp stuff.bz2 or stuff.tar or stupp.zip; the package will always do the right thing (for rar-files one needs the non-free version of rar -some uni or multiverse- to be installed on sys)09:41
neutrinomassErpo: I don't know, I've never used initrd....when compiling a normal kernel though, no. It can't read your HD without the ide controller, and cannot read the filesystem without ext3 support.09:41
nickrudtonyyarusso :)09:41
SimplyFlowersethk:  ok... i guess if this doesn't work ubuntu just won't work on my other computer :(09:42
neutrinomassgean: It's in multiverse, "unrar"09:42
sethkSimplyFlower, it can.  eventually you'll find the problem.  but it might be more trouble than it's worth.09:42
geanneutrinomas yep..09:42
aaron__nickrud : im filling out your form09:43
sethkSimplyFlower, it's more common for hardware to not work with other distros and work with ubuntu, but there are always odd cases.09:43
aaron__whats this biz about the channel?09:43
nickrudaaron__, what form?09:43
aaron__Group Contact Form09:43
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SimplyFlowergean:  i can't install using synaptic because i have no internet connection on that computer.09:43
neutrinomasssethk: Grrr...my friend's sound card for example :P09:43
aaron__its on freenode.net09:43
DBOSimplyFlower, download the debs on another PC and transfer them with CD09:44
DBOthen use dpkg -i to install them09:44
geanSimplyFlower Oh... it also happens for me at home..09:44
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nickrudaaron__, cool that you're using it. I just know one person associated with this network. If he's a sample, you'll probably get good feedback from that contact you're makeing09:45
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aaron__cool09:45
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SimplyFlowerDBO:  where do i find the debs that synaptic downloads?09:45
DBOSimplyFlower, are you on another linux box?09:45
nubi-hello09:46
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nubi-how to install iptables on ubuntu?09:46
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SimplyFlowerDBO:  yes, i have 2 computers, one can connect to the internet with ubuntu, the other one can't which is what i'm trying to fix09:46
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DBOSimplyFlower, "sudo apt-get -d install package"09:47
Psykushey, can't seem to get sound working with frozen bubble, gives this error output in the terminal, ""Warning: can't initialize sound (reason: No available audio device)"09:47
nickrudnubi-, iptables are already installed, a couple of front ends are shorewall and firestarter09:47
SimplyFlowerDBO:  what does that do?09:47
Psykussound works for other parts of ubuntu09:47
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DBOSimplyFlower, it will download the file to /var/cache/apt/archives09:48
DBOSimplyFlower, it will not install it however09:48
Psykusi do have an old version of ubuntu though, need to get the newer version back from my friend...using hoary now, friend has the breezy CD (i'm on dial-up so I can't exactly dist upgrade)09:49
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DBOPsykus, does the sound work anywhere else?09:50
Psykusyes09:50
nickrudPsykus, you can upgrade from your friends breezy cd, I would think09:50
SimplyFlowerDBO: ok... if i understand... sudo apt-get -d whateverpackage then i can find it to copy it to cd09:50
Psykusyes, I meant he has the CD, I need to get it from him09:50
Psykusi recently re-installed, and only had the old CD around09:50
DBOSimplyFlower, you got it, smart girl =)09:50
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SimplyFlowerDBO:  thank you :)09:51
s|k!rhythmbox09:51
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, s|k09:51
Psykusi mentioned it because I figured it might of been fixed for breezy09:51
s|k!rhythymbox09:51
ubotus|k: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:51
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nickrud!info rhythmbox09:51
uboturhythmbox: (music player and organizer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.9.0-0ubuntu6 (breezy), Packaged size: 1565 kB, Installed size: 4724 kB09:51
DBOs|k, what do you want to know?09:51
s|k!version rhythmbox dapper09:51
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, s|k09:51
s|kah09:51
kennethwhat is the difference between "hibernation" and "standby" power modes?09:52
s|kDBO what version of rhythmbox is in dapper09:52
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hintsweni don't know my root password, i was never asked for 1 when i installed. i only know my account's username and password09:52
hintswenor is that my root password?09:52
Ohziehintswen: There is no root password.09:52
nickrud!info rhythmbox dapper09:53
uboturhythmbox: (music player and organizer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.9.3.1-0ubuntu7 (dapper), Packaged size: 1758 kB, Installed size: 6332 kB09:53
Psykushintswen, use sudo before the commands you need root for09:53
hintswenso root is my account?09:53
OhzieType sudo su09:53
Psykuslike:09:53
OhzieThen type your user's password09:53
nickrudheh, it worked :)09:53
DBOs|k, .9.3.109:53
Psykussudo apt-get install package09:53
OhzieAnd then run passwd root to give it a password.09:53
s|kDBO: thanks09:53
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DBOhintswen, you dont need root, it is locked by default and should stay that way.  Use sudo instead =)  security is good09:54
hintswenoh, so if i type 'sudo su' and set a password that will create a account with username root and password i set?09:54
DBOhintswen, root already exists, it is just locked09:54
hintswenokay09:54
Psykushintswen, use sudo before the commands you need root for09:55
SimplyFlowerone more question before i go... when i installed ubuntu, grub wouldn't work... so i had to use lilo, but am no longer able to boot to windowsXP only Ubuntu.  what do i need to do so i can dual boot.  It took me 2 days just to get the computer to boot to ubuntu.09:55
Psykuslike, sudo apt-get install package09:55
hintswenokay thanks... and 2 more questions09:55
hintswencan i 'remote desktop' my ubuntu from my windows box? or something similar09:55
hintsweni need GUI09:55
jduhow do I display a certain number of characters of a variable e.g. first 3?09:55
DBOSimplyFlower, can you be more descriptive about how "grub wouldnt work"09:55
Psykushintswen, yes, ubuntu has something called VNC built in09:55
DBOhintswen, VNC will do the trick09:55
Psykus:P09:55
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hintswenok how do i set up VNC on it lol09:56
DBO:P09:56
hintswenand what's a windows VNC program that IS un-inatlallable09:56
Psykushere's a good program to use for it on the windows side: http://www.snapfiles.com/get/vnc.html09:56
Psykus^09:56
DBOhintswen, System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop09:56
hintswencause i had Real VNC on my old comp and people said it's not good cause u casn't fully remove it09:56
Psykusoh09:56
DBOhintswen, then use tight VNC or ultraVNC if you dont like realVNC09:57
hintswenit's not that i don't like it, just others don't like it lol. i thought it was great09:57
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nickrudhintswen, you're probably not going to get anyone to go out on a limb for any windows tool here09:58
hintswenok last question: is there some way i can store files on my ubuntu, transfering them to it from my other computer09:58
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DBOhintswen, you mean like Samba file shares?09:58
hintswenno idea what that is09:58
SimplyFlowerDBO:  tried installing grub to floppy, partition, and to the mbr, in all cases when i tried to reboot grub gave an error message and wouldn't boot my computer at all.  I couldn't even get into windowsXP.  Had to restore the mbr with fdisk and tried clean installing several times.  same problems.  finally installed with lilo, but now can't boot to windowsXP only Ubuntu.09:58
nickrudhintswen, or writing to a cd?09:58
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DBOhintswen, Samba is a way to share files over the network between linux and windows09:59
hintsweni mean moving files from this computer to my ubuntu09:59
hintswenlike FTP or something09:59
DBOSimplyFlower, do you know what error message it gave?09:59
hintswenor can i get it to appear on 'my network places' so i can easily drag and drop files?09:59
bliss1_DBO: your looking god!09:59
hedrekQ:  I am getting "mount:  /dev/hda1 already mounted or /media/hda1 busy".. it's not mounted, it worked in the 2.6.15ubuntu kernel and now doesn't work with my self compiled 2.6.16 using the same .config09:59
DBOhintswen, yes, you do that with samba10:00
hintswenok where do i get it?10:00
DBOhintswen, "sudo apt-get install samba"10:00
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DBObliss1_, I look god every day, or so I like to think =P10:01
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SimplyFlowerDBO: one i remember is grub error 15, otherwise my computer just told me to insert a floppy disk10:01
DBOhedrek, just for kicks and giggles, try changing its mount point10:01
hintswendone, now can i FTp it or how do i move files onto it?10:01
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DBOhintswen, open nautilus window and navigate so you can see the folder you want to share10:02
DBOright click on it, and select Share Folder10:02
s|kI'm compiling rhythymbox 9.4 from source :<10:02
s|kI compiled 3.9 from source when I was on breezy10:02
bliss1_DBO; your to modest10:02
s|kand it broke on dapper10:02
hedrekDBO: same thing, changed dirs, made a new mount point, "mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1" and got the message again10:03
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DBOhintswen, it will give an option for share with, select SMB, then for name select a name, and check "Allow browsing folder"10:03
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DBOhintswen, then select Genereal Windows Share Settings, and change your workgroup to match your XP machines workgroup, press ok on both windows, and go have fun =)10:04
DBOhedrek, command "mount" -> pastebin10:04
nickrudSimplyFlower, if you'd put your working lilo config up, I might be able to remember what to add for a standard windows boot10:04
bliss1_nickrud; man your not in bed!10:05
SimplyFlowerDBO: where do i find it?10:05
DBOSimplyFlower, I dont know... I dont do lilo, sorry =(10:05
nickrudbliss1_, no, I still have an appliance in my mouth, which is driving my crazy10:06
DBOnickrud, blender?10:06
nickrudDBO, broken jaw :)10:06
SimplyFlowerDBO: give me a minute i will try to find it... brb10:06
DBOnickrud, that will teach you to get in bar fights, well, at least we know the other guy was really messed up =)10:06
nickrudbut the blender is a truly marvelous invention10:06
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hedrekDBO: ok, sent10:06
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FearMothshould I have to modprobe lirc_serial or put it in /etc/modules for lirc to work, or does it do that when I build and install it? mode2 and irrecord only seem to work if I modprobe first10:06
DBOhedrek, ok, link?10:07
harisundDoes anybody here use the GNU Screen program while SSHing?10:07
DBO(my crystal ball is broke, sorry)10:07
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nickrudDBO, im 50 years old, haven't been in a fight since I was 14, and it happened at my front door, and it was my stupidity. I'm still looking for the computation :)10:07
bliss1_nickrud: bliss_ gets the sledge hammer out10:07
hedrekDBO: i guess that would be 12915?  paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1291510:07
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s|kDBO: where are programs usually stored?10:08
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s|kdo you know?10:08
Tiduss|k: usually /usr/bin10:08
s|kTidus: thanks10:08
DBOs|k, stuff you compile yourself should go into /opt10:08
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Tidusharisund: yes, i use screen on SSH10:08
harisundTidus: Ah awesome. Have you ever got disconnected because, perhaps, of a bad internet?10:09
Tidusharisund: yes... more than once.10:09
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Tiduslol10:09
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harisundTidus: Now when I reconnect, how do I get back to that screen? screen -r tells me that the screen is already attached.10:09
Tidusharisund: screen -x10:09
_jim_hey guys , yesterday i mounted 2 partitions - today i turned on the pc and they are gone ....... any help ?10:09
DBO_jim_, did you add them to /etc/fstab?10:10
_jim_no10:10
nickrud_jim_, you need to add the mount definitions to /etc/fstab to make them permanent10:10
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_jim_i cant edit them by my account10:10
harisundTidus: Really? That's great .. wow .. I knew #ubuntu would be the answer to all my questions :) thanks a ton ..10:10
Tidusharisund: np10:10
DBO!tell _jim_ about fstab10:10
_jim_do you know how to logon as root by the logon screen ?10:10
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DBO_jim_, you have to use "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" to edit it10:10
holy_cowjim you can't10:11
Tidusharisund: that's general linux information, not ubuntu specific... works on gentoo, debian, ubuntu, mandrake(iva), slack, FC .... any others i might have forgotten...10:11
holy_cow!root10:11
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.10:11
_jim_thnx guys10:11
s|kyay rhythmbox works10:11
s|k:D10:11
s|k.9.4 even10:11
nickrudbliss1_, I'm almost wishing I'd missed the sledgehammer comment, I already one that part of it :)10:11
holy_cow!xgl10:11
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/10:11
harisundTidus: oh .. Ok .. thanks for that info .. is there any general #linux channel :) ?10:11
zzz_join10:11
holy_cowanyone here have 915gm chipset and run xgl?10:12
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Tidusharisund: ##linux is a general linux channel10:12
_jim_how i run diskmounter ? i have a code10:12
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dbuganyone know where i disable the modules not used in the boot?10:12
s|krhythmbox .9.4 comes with podcast support heh10:12
harisundTidus Is the double '#' a typo, or is it specifically 2 '#' ?10:13
kurimawguys... i've installed limewire... i was able to successfully installed but it doesn't show in any menu.. where can i find the file and how can i execute it?10:13
Tidusharisund: specifically 2 "#"10:13
nickruddbug, any modules you don't want loaded should be mentioned in /etc/hotplug/blacklist10:13
harisundkurimaw: How did you install limewire? Using the repositories?10:13
kurimawi think from the limewire website10:13
s|kharisund: two # means it's a support channel10:13
s|ker10:13
s|kan about channel10:13
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harisundkurimaw: if all had gone right, you can execute it by typing Alt+F2 (which is like the Windows RUN command) and type there 'limewire'10:14
DBOhedrek, oops, forgot to tell you what I wanted you to do.  type "umount /dev/hda1" and tell me the output10:14
harisunds|k Oh I see..10:14
Tiduss|k: their 'technical' name is 'unofficial channel' but it works either way10:14
klos_im looking for a tool to encrypt my hdd for ubuntu10:14
nickrudkurimaw, you'd need to create your own launcher for it applications->system tools->menu editor I thin10:14
kurimawit sayd could not run the specified command10:14
dbugnickrud, and where i see the actual list modules load in boot ?10:14
DBOhedrek, correction "sudo umount /dev/hda1"10:14
Tidusdbug: /sbin/lsmod10:15
kurimawok thanks.10:15
nickruddbug, lsmod ?10:15
FearMothhas anyone had much luck getting xgl working with an ATI Radeon 9550?10:15
hedrekDBO: umount: /dev/hda1: not mounted10:15
_jim_im trying to run diskmounter by using ./diskmounter in the dir but it says permission denied10:15
nickrud_jim_, usually that means you want to run the program with sudo10:15
dbugtks10:16
_jim_im already by root10:16
_jim_isnt the same ?10:16
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hedrekDBO: i think I will not pursue this much further for time constraints, I appreciate your help10:17
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nickrud_jim_, yes, but having root get permission denied is not common10:17
DBOhedrek, "sudo mkdir /media/windows"10:18
_jim_hmmm10:18
zoxmelI tried upgrading to dapper, and now after I log in to gnome it just stays at a brown screen :/ ... any suggestions?10:18
DBOhedrek, then "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" and add the line "/dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    ro,user,auto,fmask=0177,dmask=0077,uid=1000     0       3"10:18
DBOhedrek, then "sudo mount -a"10:18
hedrekDBO:  Ok, I will try that, sec10:18
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_jim_i tried with sudo and it asked for the pass and after that nothing happened10:19
_jim_the script run ?10:19
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holy_cow*hmm* how do you turn on direct rendering in ubuntu?10:19
DBO!tell zoxmel about dapper10:19
holy_cow!dri10:19
ubotuholy_cow: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:19
sifl_i'm having issues w/ apache where i can load my .php files through a browser, but the .html files give me directory permissions errors....any suggestions?10:20
bliss1_nickrud: can you open the window in your office can smell the stuf on your jaw from here10:20
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nickrudbliss1_, I brushed my teeth as much as the pain would allow :) and on that, and 36 hours till metal is gone, good night10:21
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_jim_guys a little help please or gimme any link...10:22
_jim_the script cannot be run10:22
DBO_jim_, what are you trying to do again?10:22
_jim_i type sudo ./diskmounter  , type pass and nothing happens10:22
asdf25anyone know what package i should install to get manpages for unix api functions, ie. sockets?10:23
DBOok10:23
DBO_jim_, what are you trying to mount, and where do you want to mount it?10:23
bliss1_where do i get the package from this sentence not in apt-get To get the source including the patches I looked for the kernel-tree-2.6.8 meta package and installed it10:23
hedrekDBO: that didn't work , got same 'already mounted' error... went back to generic kernel and it is working again, i must have fouled something up! anyway it is off to be, thanks10:23
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_jim_i want to mount my 2 fat32 partitions10:23
ompaul_jim_, if your trying to work with disks try System Administration Disks - its fairly easy to use10:23
_jim_it cannot be accessed10:23
_jim_like many things10:23
_jim_i dont know why10:23
_jim_i run it and simply nothing happens10:24
ompaul_jim_, stop a second10:24
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DBO_jim_, step by step instructions -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions10:24
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gean_jim : hm try sudo bash from a terminal..., then u r root in a terminal, maybe there is some message (error) when trying to mount : alternatively : use the GUI , nautilus , it mounts by click... (usually detects all devices) , just as an idea... (u had better)10:25
ompaul_jim_, in the terminal type >> sudo id << what is the first word returned for uid?10:25
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_jim_bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'10:26
_jim_bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'10:26
_jim_sry10:26
_jim_that one by using >> sudo id <<10:26
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Jaseyhelp!10:26
ompaul!anyone10:27
ubotuI guess anyone is a large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>10:27
DBOwhat is your problme?10:27
Jaseyim trying to install a package which cant find its dependency. yet it is installed already :(10:27
Jaseyconfusion on set10:27
MM2I'm trying to set up ltsp-server with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto and in step 2 "Build the thin client runtime..." I get error failed getting release file http://us.archive... what to do?10:27
DBOJasey, can you be more specific about the packages?10:27
ompaul_jim_, leave out the arrow heads the part in the middle is the command10:27
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Jaseywell10:27
Jaseyumm10:27
Jaseygive me a mo10:27
ompaul!enter10:27
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.10:27
Jaseysorry10:28
DBOits ok, you're new10:28
Jaseyim not new ive been here before lol10:28
SimplyFlowerDBO:  i'm back... found the lilo.config looking at it appears to have windows listed as other operating system.10:28
DBOSimplyFlower, yes that is correct, can you post your lilo config to pastebin?10:28
geanby the way : ANY1 any idea, how can i ENLARGE (as secure as possible) my own 30GB lptop partition (ubuntu-linux from it now) to the whole (40GB) laptop hd.. (there will be no wind* and wine on this hd)10:29
_jim_dbo10:29
Jaseyerm, so im trying to install libgcc1_4.1.0-1+b1_i386, which says it cant find its dependency libc6. but that already seems to be installed.10:29
DBOgean, liveboot then use gparted10:29
DBO_jim_,10:29
_jim_i type that wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter@10:29
_jim_i download it10:29
_jim_(without the @)10:29
_jim_then type that : sudo bash diskmounter10:30
_jim_and nothing happens10:30
_jim_the file its in Home i see10:30
DBO_jim_, what is the filename?10:30
SimplyFlowerDBO:  how would i do that... i assume i would have to first save it to a floppy to transfer it to this computer... then how would i post it to pastebin?10:30
DBO!pastebin10:30
ubotuhmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126910:30
geanDBO : so : i use the ubuntu-live CD, and inside of it the gparted dialog sttarting ? There is also some gparted in the ubuntu-Applications-SystemTools , would it also work ?!10:31
ompaul_jim_, I asked you to leave out the <<>> and run the part in the middle >> sudo id <<10:31
DBOgean, no, you need to use the liveboot to work on your root partition10:31
_jim_sorry ompaul what do you mean10:32
_jim_i run >> sudo id << without >><< and nothing happens10:32
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MM2I'm trying to set up ltsp-server with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto and in step 2 "Build the thin client runtime..." I get error failed getting release file http://us.archive... what to do?10:32
montbazinhello, please can someone tell me how to reduce the size of the icons on the desktop, thanx10:33
ompaul_jim_, are you saying you have run        sudo id              and get no reply?10:33
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_jim_yes10:33
teletubbiehi10:33
teletubbie!scilab10:33
ubotuteletubbie: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:33
teletubbiewhy can I only find the old scilab version in apt?10:33
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_jim_i see it now by connecting in root first10:34
_jim_:)10:34
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DBOteletubbie, because that is the version in the repos10:34
_jim_uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)10:34
teletubbieI remember I got scilab 4 before using apt10:34
teletubbieany one on dapper?10:34
nicholaspaulmontbazin: try System/Admin/Themes - installing new themes would def. work.10:34
teletubbiecan you do a search scilab?10:34
nicholaspaulteletubbie: Dapper right here.10:34
teletubbienicholaspaul, apt-cache search scilab10:35
DBO!info scilab dapper10:35
ubotuscilab: (Matrix-based scientific software package (a la Matlab and Xmath)), section multiverse/math, is optional. Version: 3.0-12 (dapper), Packaged size: 2395 kB, Installed size: 28956 kB10:35
SimplyFlowerDBO: am not quite understanding?  i have to install a package called pastebin in order to use it?10:35
ompaul_jim_, your able to be root so what you need to do is >> sudo ./diskmounter  <<  same rules apply10:35
montbazinthanx, nicholaspaul10:35
nicholaspaulnp10:35
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DBOSimplyFlower, no, you just go to the website that is listed and paste it up there10:35
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DBOSimplyFlower, you know what, just join #dbo and paste it there...10:35
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_jim_root@10:/home/jimoupas# sudo bash diskmounter10:36
_jim_yay10:36
nicholaspaulteletubbie: which file are you looking for?10:36
_jim_thx man10:36
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_jim_now its like a wizard /10:36
teletubbieI already got it. it looks like the old version is in dapper also10:36
SimplyFlowerDBO: i don't know how to paste to a chat10:36
nicholaspaulteletubbie: oh ok.10:36
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_jim_i think i did it10:37
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nicholaspaulDoes anyone know if you can schedule startup ???10:37
DBOSimplyFlower, ok, just go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and paste it into the text box, and click send.   Then all you need to do is send me the resulting link10:37
geanDBO : please give me a hint (or link) about *liveboot* (to work on my hda), just googled liveboot+gparted an got no useful stuff...10:37
noodlemanhey, im having problems with an Edubuntu install. Anyone want to help?10:37
Nermalnicholaspaul: ?10:38
DBOgean, did you download the discs yourself or did you get the pressed discs?10:38
SimplyFlowerDBO:  ok will try... give me a few minutes ok?  brb10:38
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noodlemanI keep getting a repeated "killed" message when I install10:38
montbazinnicholaspaul: I didn't find anything to chancge the icon size in "System/Prefs/Temes"10:38
_jim_any clue why i cant access my Ntfs primary partition ? im getting this : You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "sda1".10:38
nicholaspaulNermal: in some OS's (like OS 9) you can schedule the machine to startup/shutdown at  certain times of the day.10:38
axismejim10:38
Nermal_jim_: I'm guessing you do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "sda1".10:38
DBOSimplyFlower, okie dokie10:38
axismeuse sudo10:39
DBOgean, http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso10:39
Nermaladd umask=022 to the mount options in /etc/fstab ?10:39
montbazinI remeber there was somethin to change the size if icons but I don't remember where10:39
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nicholaspaulmontbazin: sorry.10:39
teletubbie!upgrade10:39
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .10:39
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montbazinnicholaspaul, never mind10:39
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_jim_how i can change the permissions so i can see the ntfs ?10:40
_jim_by sudo which one command ?10:40
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geanDBO, it was a ubuntu-install-CD (downloaded from some short working knoppix), then all packages were installed fron the net... yes, i should also have the live-CD version for ubuntu... so ubuntu-live-CD can enlarge ``me'' ?!10:40
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axismesudo nautilus10:41
DBOgean, yes, it can resize your primary partition10:41
axismethats the lazy way of accessing it :-)10:41
_jim_yay i got it now :)10:41
_jim_thansk10:41
axismei prefer it like that10:41
osfameronIs flash plugin 8.0 packaged for Hoary ?10:41
_jim_isnt there a way to access it directly ?10:41
DBOmontbazin, just right click on the icon and select stretch icon10:41
geanDBO, ok ! thanks a lot, i'll try it after the session today ! (*Appreciate the hints*)10:41
_jim_without terminal ?10:41
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DBO_jim_, you have to set the uid=1000 option while mounting so you own it persay10:42
osfameronoh, ffs, Flash 8 isn't available for Linux ?10:42
ivoksuh, lots of people :)10:42
DBOivoks, yep, 700 is about were it peaks10:43
mDotosfameron nope10:43
_jim_o so i edit the fstab ?10:43
DBOwhere*10:43
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DBO_jim_, I dont know how you mounted it, but if you used the fstab, yes, you have to edit that10:43
teletubbie!performance10:43
ubotuteletubbie: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:43
[nige] is there a linux networking channel by any chance?10:43
teletubbie##linux10:44
osfameronmDot: that's annoying.  (I'm supposed to be developing a flash video player thingummy, which currently seems to require Flash 8...  this is going to be fun10:45
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mDotosfameron agreed10:45
teletubbieI have a very strange problem here :\10:45
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teletubbieI can download files at 500kb/s from a website but can't transfer files at 500 kb/s from a lan server :\10:46
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DBOteletubbie, have you verified that the lan server is not the issue?10:46
teletubbieanother lan client could transfer at 500kb/s :\10:46
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teletubbiethe server is connected through cable to the wireless router10:47
tonyyarussoCould someone please hilight me quick?10:47
DBOsure tonyyarusso10:47
teletubbieand my pc is connected via wireless at 48mbps10:47
tonyyarussoDBO: Thanks.  (Worked.)10:47
tonyyarussoNow to find out if Dapper lets me hibernate...10:48
MM2I'm trying to set up ltsp-server with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto and in step 2 "Build the thin client runtime..." I get error failed getting release file http://us.archive... what to do?10:48
DBOtonyyarusso, maken sure your swap has been embiggened enough for the swap to hold everything (so what if I watch too much simpsons)10:48
tonyyarussoDBO: How big are we talking?10:48
DBOtonyyarusso, must at LEAST be larger than your physical RAM10:49
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tonyyarussoDBO: Okay.10:49
ic56teletubbie: and the other LAN client is similarly connected to the router via wireless?10:49
teletubbieyep10:50
_jim_is there any program to download from repositaries ?10:50
DBOteletubbie, what kind of signal strength are you getting?10:50
teletubbieat 11mbps :\10:50
DBO_jim_, like apt-get?10:50
teletubbieand mine is on 48 or 52mbps10:50
_jim_something different10:50
_jim_apt-get works only from terminal... right ?10:50
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teletubbieuality=73/100 using iwconfig10:50
DBO_jim_, like synaptics?10:50
_jim_synaptics doesnt run by System/Admin10:51
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DBO_jim_, o rly?  well then, what happens when you click it?10:51
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_jim_it asks for a pass10:51
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_jim_i type my root pass right ?10:51
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DBO_jim_, no, you type YOUR password10:52
_jim_ok10:52
_jim_its the same pass anyway...10:52
DBOO_o10:52
mikemiezterloz10:52
_jim_press ok and the window dissapears10:52
DBOsuch security10:52
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_jim_yeah :)10:52
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_jim_many things doesnt work and i dont know why10:53
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_jim_SYSTEM/admin/disks10:53
_jim_too10:53
DBO_jim_, in terminal "ps -ef | grep synaptic | wc -l"10:53
cedric_bonjour10:53
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carbonx_10:54
_jim_im getting a 110:54
DBO_jim_, ok, what I thought...10:54
cedric_quelqu'un connait la commande pour demarrer Ubuntu directement en mode graphique je sais pas ce que j'ai encore triffouiller10:54
DBO!fr10:54
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:54
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DBO!zh10:54
ubotuFor support in Chinese, please try the channel #ubuntu-zh.10:54
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teletubbieI think it is the firewall on the server10:55
_jim_gazzak , do you play gr ? you have the same nick as oe of my friends10:55
thesaltydogis ubuntu-desktop package needed also for laptops?10:55
DBOteletubbie, is the server wireless too?10:55
_jim_DBO , so ? whats wrong ?10:55
teletubbienope, it is wired10:55
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kevinzhi there. my ooo does not show up as the splash window never end. it once worked but i don't know what bring problems to it now10:55
DBO_jim_, no idea, we will need to troubleshoot more, but right now I do know something is SNAFU10:56
_jim_i dont know what snafu is :p10:56
_jim_but i understand you r busy :)10:56
DBO_jim_, (nice version) Situation Normal: All Fouled Up10:56
_jim_ok :)10:56
teletubbieyou can upgrade from dapper test to dapper stable after its release. right?10:56
_jim_brb10:56
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DBOthesaltydog, no its not needed, but it is useful for upgrades10:57
thesaltydogkevinz, there is a sort o tutorial here: http://www.newsforge.com/software/03/04/22/1931223.shtml?tid=5110:57
DBOteletubbie, yes10:57
deananybody know how to enable the gnome foot icon in apps?10:57
thesaltydogDBO, tnx10:57
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deanI want to change the ubuntu icon in applications to the gnome foot10:57
visik7how the boot splash of *ubuntu works ?10:57
dean?10:58
teletubbiedl-ing at 599kb/s from a website outside my lan10:58
DBOdean, replace /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png with whatever you want10:58
imbrandonnice10:58
teletubbieif I'm connected at 48mbps. I should be able to dl at a few mb/s10:58
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DBOteletubbie, unless the signal isnt strong enough10:58
deanwasn't there a command for the gnome icon?10:58
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animatohello, any ubuntu app to view computer stats such as cpu and system temp?10:58
Quan-Timehey. me and a friend have a fair bit of experience with linux.. but currently we both use winxp.. we are sick to death of the problems we get.. i have a nvidia triple monitor display. TV / LCD off a 7800gtx and a CRT on a 6200 (also PCIe). he has a ATI and dual monitor.. how much grief are we gonna encounter by installing and trying to get multi monitors working ?10:58
DBOdean, not that I know of10:58
imbrandonviviersf, lookup the usplash package10:58
viviersf??10:59
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imbrandonthats the boot splash stuff10:59
imbrandonfor the kernel10:59
DBOQuan-Time, you wont have much, he will have more10:59
deansudo mv /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png.bak10:59
deankillall gnome-panel10:59
viviersfimbrandon, why you telling me ?10:59
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ajaycHELP ME GET UBUNTU TO WORK ON MY LAPPY10:59
imbrandon[03:57]  <visik7> how the boot splash of *ubuntu works ?10:59
DBOdean, that will just get rid of the icon10:59
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viviersfimbrandon, you got tab key issues ;p10:59
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deanhmm11:00
DBOajayc, no yelly please, what is your problem?11:00
imbrandonoops lol11:00
imbrandonsorry11:00
Quan-TimeDBO, excellent.. thats what i like to hear. i used mdk10.1 for about 6 months with ati.. and hated every min of it (about a year ago).. and since now i have nvidia again.. thought id do the big switch...11:00
imbrandon;)11:00
DBOdean, if you use the cp command to copy over an icon of the foot logo, it will replace it11:00
deanI screwed something up and now the foot icon was copied over with the ubuntu icon...11:01
deanheh11:01
DBOQuan-Time, Im not sure about that third output, probably going to have a bit of trouble with that triple monitor deal, but I didnt think the 7800GTX could do dual AND tv at the same time (I have one myself)...11:01
SimplyFlowerDBO: i'm back... the link is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1291711:01
DBOdean, oh wells, foot icon is better =P11:01
deanI'm stuck with the ubuntu icon :(11:01
DBOSimplyFlower, ok, now your turn to wait while I learn lilo11:01
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ajaycinstall cd wont detect my cdrom11:02
Quan-TimeDBO, its a nvidia thing.. you have 3 outputs.. 2 DVI (or dvi and dsub) and TV.. you can only use 2 at the same time11:02
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SimplyFlowerDBO: ok, i'll be here11:02
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etmntmeh11:02
visik7!wiki usplash11:03
DBOQuan-Time, that is what I thought11:03
Quan-Timehttp://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/nonichan/DSCF0408.jpg <-- my triple monitor setup (19" sony CRT, 19" samsung LCD, old tv.. good for crap quality divx, looks quite reasonable on that)11:03
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Quan-Timeoh.. and beer bottles :)11:03
ajaycit says the install cd says it cant find my cdrom11:03
DBOdean, you can get a new foot icon off the interweb if you want11:03
Quan-Timei have seen triple monitor setup before.. on fedora11:04
ajaycso any ideas?11:04
ajaycplease guys help11:04
DBOQuan-Time, Im not saying it cant be done, but I dont think it can be done with one card all being run at the same time.  At any rate I wouldnt know where to start with the tv, but the two monitors will essentially work out of the box with the nvidia drivers11:04
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DBOajayc, do you have a second CD drive you could try?11:05
Quan-Timeajayc, your cd you burnt, wont detect in the drive ? saying please insert ? ive had that before, couldnt fix.. so i leeched the DVD version and it fixed it11:05
OhzieHey11:05
OhzieI'm running into this problem11:05
ajaychey guys the cd is perfect11:05
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OhzieSee, I've installed gstreamer11:05
ajaycbut the isntaller says cant find cdrom11:05
OhzieAnd the gstreamer firefox plugin11:05
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guillem101Quan-Time, wow, an IBM keyboard11:05
OhzieBut when I try to play media in firefox, it tries to use Kaffeine11:06
DBOSimplyFlower, Im sorry, it looks fine to me...  if it was Grub i could be more help.  Does anyone in here know lilo well enough to help SimplyFlower?11:06
Quan-TimeDBO, xconfig86 can do it... tv-out shouldnt be an issue. ive done it before.. just have to specify res / hz..11:06
Quan-Timeguillem101, HARHRAHR.. hella yes.. nothing but the best.. ibm model M pal ;)11:06
Quan-Timeits also in "dvorak" layer11:06
Quan-Timebetter for typing11:06
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DBOQuan-Time, cool, do a writeup of what you do step for step, I may end up using it =)11:06
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m_0_r_0_nHi, which program is best to decrypt the content of text files encrypted by pgp?11:06
teletubbieyep. it was pf that caused the problem11:06
ecenhello, im trying to install kubuntu from the Synaptic Package Manager and Im getting the following: kubuntu-desktop: Depends: gwenview but it is not going to be installed ... any ideas?11:06
teletubbienow I can transfer at 10mbytes/s11:06
teletubbie:)11:06
guillem101Quan-Time, sorry for my point-less comment. I love those old IBM keyboards.11:06
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Quan-TimeDBO, HARHRAH.. fair enough.. i just dont know about 2 video cards is all.. thats basically my issue.. but since they are both nvidia core. i cant see too much of an issue. if i pull it off, ill explain how i do it later :)11:07
Quan-Timebut this weekend we are having an installfest.. also installing watercooling for a mate.. as he never done it before..11:07
ajaycwell i saw that bug on the site too11:07
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Quan-Timeguillem101, not pointless.. good eyes i say ;)11:07
_harm_how do i get a performance grapgh on my desktop?11:07
Quan-Timeif your eyes were REALLY good guillem101, you would have noticed my PC is actually sitting on 2 bricks11:08
OhzieHmm11:08
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ecenanyone?11:08
DBO !tell _harm about gdesklets11:08
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guillem101Quan-Time, lol.11:08
imbrandonecen, make sure all your sources.list are enabled11:08
guillem101Quan-Time, and the clocks? thermomether, igrometer, ...?11:08
Quan-Timehttp://users.on.net/auska/grinder/ <-- see the size of the rad.. and the 3x120mm fans are external11:08
DBOQuan-Time, people still own dreamcasts? =P11:09
imbrandonlike universe and you run sudo apt-get update afterwords11:09
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Quan-TimeHRAHRAH. dreamcast is on TV2 (pc is TV1).. and controller is in the draw.. i LOVE my dreamcast... DOA2 and soulcalibur..11:09
Quan-Timeguillem101, thermometer, hygrometer, clock11:09
DBOSimplyFlower, do you get an error with lilo when you try to boot windows?11:09
Quan-TimeDBO, dreamcast also has the VGA output attachment.. so i can tak it to LANs and things with mates, and play on LCDs.. works sweet11:10
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DBOQuan-Time, me, and guillem101, I hate to say it, but we have wondered offtopic, we need to take it to #ubuntu-offtopic11:11
Quan-Timeoh sorry.. my bad everyone11:11
DBO=) its cool11:11
ajaycwell can anyone help?11:11
ajayccdrom not getting detected any workarounds?11:11
guillem101ajayc, have you tried live-cd?11:12
DBOajayc, do you ever get to a point where you can enter a command?11:12
Quan-Timeajayc, as i said, is it the CD or the rom ? coz i had to burn a DVD version to make it work11:12
ajaycthat also doesnt work11:12
ecenimbrandon: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?11:12
ajaycits the rom11:12
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teletubbiemhh still downloading files to upgrade11:13
ajaycits the cdrom!!!11:13
DBOajayc, you basically have two options, get a different image or a different drive (afaik) =(11:13
ajaycimage?11:13
ajaycwell 4.10 works11:13
ajaycbut releases after that dont11:13
DBOdo you have the pressed versions or ISO's you downloaded?11:13
ajaycand havent tried 611:13
ajaycpressed11:14
DBOhmmm11:14
guillem101ajayc, you burn the ISO images at the lower speed possible, don't you?11:14
DBOhe didnt burn it11:14
ajaycI got pressed cd's guillem10111:14
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guillem101ajayc, sorry.11:14
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DBOajayc, could you perhaps try a different CD drive?  (I know, big pain...  Im really sorry I cant think of a better solution)11:14
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ajaycwell please guys get ubuntu working i desperatley want it11:15
guillem101ajayc, can you check the media at the boot menu?11:15
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ajaycdidnt do that11:15
Quan-Timetime to leech ubuntu... whats latest.. breezy badger ?11:15
Quan-Time5.10 ?11:15
seraphim6.06 beta11:15
Quan-Timeohh... any good ?11:15
imbrandondapper11:16
ecenthank you11:16
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Quan-Timeand like, is there a DVD version with everything in one ? or it still the 1cd thing ?11:16
imbrandon1cd11:16
Quan-Timekk. cheers. it do the whole debian thing of update from any version ?11:16
imbrandonand yes dapper is good ;)11:16
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Quan-Timecoz i have 5.10 cds here11:16
imbrandonyes Quan-Time11:16
Quan-Timeoh wootah.. good old debian11:17
imbrandonjust after install change your sources.list11:17
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siruzhey,my dvd+r says it fits 4,7Gb but K3B only lets me burn 4,4Gb on it, is it supposed to be like this?11:17
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imbrandonfrom "breezy" to "dapper" if you wanna upgrade11:17
mDotyeah, don't bother downloading a dapper iso11:17
Quan-Timeimbrandon, cheers for that11:17
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ajaycno solution to my prob?11:18
imbrandonajayc, ??11:18
ajaycwell my cdrom i snot being detected by installer11:18
guillem101ajayc, try to check the media from boot menu.11:18
guillem101ajayc, also, you may install 4.10 since it works and upgrade to 5.1011:19
imbrandonyea check the media from the boot menu, or try a diffrent cdrom11:19
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ajaycwell i directly press enter and it says no cdrom found11:19
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ajaycor i disable acpi and stuff still it doesnt detect my cdrom11:19
guillem101ajayc, Once i found a pressed CD that was wrong....11:19
guillem101ajayc, perhaps I scratched it without realizing.11:20
ecenok, uncommenting the sources did it. but now it says it will remove "mysql control center" (a gui to manage mysql databases) why that?11:20
imbrandonwell the easy way would be to upgrade from 4.10 like guillem101 said but you could also check a diffrent cdrom and/or cddrive11:20
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ajaychey hey i tried it with 5 different ubuntu cd's11:20
imbrandonecen, it might be outdated and will install a new version11:20
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guillem101ajayc, and live CDs do not work?11:21
DBOecon, see if a newer version is in the install list, otherwise it conflicts with something new being installed11:21
ecenok,is there a way to avoid this removal?11:21
skpl_has anyoen here gotten yahoo messenger to work?11:21
imbrandonajayc, ok then your left with a new cddrive or upgrading from 4.10 from apt-get ;)11:21
ajaycno they dont same prob11:21
DBOskpl_, gaim works dandy for that =)11:21
imbrandonskpl_, gaim works as yahoo im , not tried the official client11:21
DBOjinx11:22
skpl_yeah but it does not have webcam support11:22
imbrandonhehe11:22
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guillem101ajayc, you're screwed. I would recommend you to follow the 4.10 path or drop the drive to the rubbish...11:22
SimplyFlowerDBO: sorry... was doing something else... no lilo doesn't give me any errors... it just boots ubuntu.  i don't get a screen that gives be any option of choosing the operating system to boot.11:22
ajaycdrive is inbuilt11:22
ecenDBO: no new version is in the list, is there a way to avoid this removal?11:23
guillem101ajayc, is it a laptop?11:23
DBOecon, yeah, dont install what you are trying to install =P11:23
imbrandonajayc,ok simple install 4.10 and update to 5.10 using apt-get from the internet11:23
ajaycyes it is a laptop11:23
teletubbiestill upgrading :\11:23
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DBOecon, the dependancies are there to prevent conflicting versions from being installed, something is conflicting and apt is telling you that needs to be removed11:23
ecenhehehe, im just want to install kubuntu... i dont get what mysqlcc has to do with kubuntu11:23
guillem101ajayc, try adding "acpi=off" et other options at the grub command line11:23
imbrandonecen, not unless you dont update BUT you can easly add it again when it done11:24
DBOSimplyFlower, hmmm, okies, I see what you mean now, lemme see what I can dig up11:24
ajaycimbrandon, did that guillem10111:24
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ecenoh, ok. if i can reinstall it later, then everyhting is ok11:24
SimplyFlowerDBO:  thank you11:24
DBOecen, it must have its own mysql manager11:24
ecenthank you11:24
imbrandonecen, yes you can readd it when its done11:24
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imbrandonajayc,ok simple install 4.10 and update to 5.10 using apt-get from the internet11:25
ajayci will use the cd to upgrade11:25
imbrandonumm then you might have the same problem11:26
DBOSimplyFlower, in your lilo.conf there is a line that reads "delay=20" change that 20 to 20011:26
imbrandonits probbly bad media11:26
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ajaycno i will upgraade thorugh synaptic11:26
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ecenlast q. does kubuntu and ubuntu live together with no conflicts?11:26
hintswenDBO, how do i open that nautilus thing?11:26
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SimplyFlowerDBO: ok, brb11:26
mindframewenasss11:26
imbrandonummm aja ok do what you want me and guillem101 are just trying to help11:26
DBOhintswen, just open your home directory and go from there11:26
eceni mean, will kubuntu overwite any ubuntu configuration?11:27
hintswen?11:27
mindframevaya, veo que esto no est en espal verdad???11:27
DBOhintswen, the file browser is called nautilus...11:27
ajaycwell i know imbrandon thnkx for that :)11:27
hintswenokay11:27
ajaycbtw can anyone mail me ubuntu dapper cdrom?11:27
DBOecen, they work together fine11:27
imbrandonecen, depends on the config you mean , yes some configs it will over write11:27
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Quan-Timeinstall question: i have 2x 400gb in raid0 on a DFI lanparty ultra-d. currently its NTFS.. i can resize it no problems.. will ubuntu have drivers or am i gonna have to somehow wrestle with lions and tigers to get ubuntu dual booting ?11:27
ajayccos i cant download my broad band has 400mb download limit11:27
ajayccos i cant download my broad band has 400mb download limit11:27
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mindframehay algun canal en espaol por aki????11:27
Quan-Timeajayc, crazy, you in australia ?11:28
imbrandonajayc, conical will send them to you, check out ubuntu.com11:28
ajaycno in INDIA11:28
osfameron!es11:28
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:28
DBOQuan-Time, it should work fine, but ubuntu has something of a bad habit of "seeing through" hardware RAID...11:28
ajaycwell dapper cd's?11:28
Quan-Timeindia *shudder*11:28
mindframethanks ubotu !11:28
Quan-TimeDBO, explain this "seeing thru" thing.. meaning, it wont work with raid ?11:28
hintswenis there some place i should make the folder i'm using to store files?11:28
ecenimbrandon: you mean files that i have configured at hand like /etc/bash.bashrc? hosts file? etc?11:28
ajaycQuan-Time, why?11:28
imbrandonajayc, not dapper yet, they will in june11:28
imbrandonecen, no they wont get over wtiten11:29
hintswenor just anywhere?11:29
DBOQuan-Time, in some rare cases, despite hardware RAID being set up, ubuntu will still detect both hard drives individually11:29
ajaycso thats what can anyonw mail me the written disc?11:29
ajaycplease11:29
Quan-Timeajayc, in australia we have "PIPE" networks.. basically, anything already in austraila, is free content.. so i could have given you some links to download most anytihng, without going towards your download quota11:29
Quan-Timebut i dont know any india things like that sorry11:29
ajaycplease guys11:30
ajayca request11:30
ecenum, will kubuntu try to rewrite mbr?11:30
imbrandonajayc, i can mail them to you but it would take a few days to get there, pm me you FULL address as i have never shiped anything to india before11:30
hintswenqualus what do you mean it won't go towards my download quota? works with optus? and link please? lol11:30
DBOecen, no11:30
imbrandonecen, no11:30
Quan-Timeecen, if you want it to.. dual boot ?11:30
hintswenQuan-Time*11:30
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Fabhi11:30
ajaycimbrandon, where do u live?11:30
ecenok, thats all, you have been very helpfull, thanks11:30
DBOhi Fab11:30
Fabhey DBO :)11:30
imbrandonajayc, usa ( kansas city missouri )11:31
Quan-Timehintswen, harhar. so what you wanna leech ?11:31
Quan-Timeand what state you in ?11:31
hintswen<--will download anything that won't go to his quota11:31
hintswenvictoria11:31
FabDBO: I finally deleted the whole Harddisk11:31
FabDBO: I think you've got right, what you said last time11:31
DBOFab, sorry, I have a bad memory for peoples problems, I remember the name but not the issue11:31
DBOoh THAT problem11:31
FabDBO: np, I know how that is ;)11:31
Quan-Timevictoria.. gotcha.. we have "peeringSA" here in adelaide. its a network of ppl (about 3000).. so only one person leeches ep / somethin.. and puts it on emule / our private torrent tracker11:32
DBOyeah I know I was right... but I didnt want to get pushy because ompaul is much smarter than me...11:32
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ajaycimbrandon, got it?11:32
FabDBO: the paritiontable was messed up11:32
Quan-Timehintswen, http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/108296.html11:32
imbrandonyup ajayc give it a few days , i'll mail it out later tonight11:32
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Quan-Timeread on that.. should help you11:32
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ompaulDBO, that is not my opinion :-)11:32
ajaycthankx imbrandon11:32
DBOQuan-Time, you need to take this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic ... sorry11:32
Fabhi ompaul :D11:32
DBOompaul, I was afraid I was going to set off your highlight =P11:33
Quan-TimeDBO, 10-411:33
FabI think you both got a right11:33
ompaulDBO, flashing lights and sirens :)11:33
Fabbut just one question :)11:33
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momo3Download Firefox -->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox3.htm11:33
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ajaycimbrandon, please see pm11:33
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FabI'm making some new partitions, one fr linux and 1 Windows11:34
hintswenDBO, is there some specific place that i should make my shared folder?11:34
DBOhintswen, in your home directory11:34
sopidohi i tried to install opera9b on dapper (etch pkg) but i get a missing xlibs/xlib6g error. when i dpkg --force-all it installs and works fine but now i always get "The following packages have unmet dependencies: opera..." how can i force apt to accept this installation?11:34
pax!opera11:34
ubotuopera is, like, totally, not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser11:34
Fabso the question is: which parition should be primary, which logic?11:34
Fabthe windows or the linux11:34
DBOprimary partition doesnt matter with linux or GRUB11:34
DBOwait no...11:35
DBOim thinking bootable11:35
imbrandonwindows should be primary linux dont care11:35
DBOit still really shouldnt matter11:35
Fabimbrandon: I though so too11:35
DBOwindows XP dont care either11:35
Fabimbrandon: I though so too11:35
IceToxbrb.. need to restart gdm [amsg] 11:35
Fabimbrandon: because windows is too stupid ^11:35
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Fab:)11:35
klosanyone can help11:35
imbrandonlol11:35
FabDBO: Ok11:35
klosi killed my xserver while11:35
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ompaulFab, all can be primary, you can have 4 primary, you should have three paritions, and you should make first parition windows , second linux third linux swap11:36
klossetting up twinview11:36
klosusing the ubuntu tutorial for nvidia graphics11:36
imbrandonand you dident backup you xorg.conf ;)11:36
klosi did11:36
toresbeI'm on Dapper beta11:36
klosand i moved it again11:36
klosbut it still wont start11:36
toresbewas middle paste disabled in dapper!?11:36
DBOklos, can you please paste your xorg.conf to pastebin11:36
kloslinux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-k7-nvidia-legacy11:36
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ompaulFab, install windows first, it will all be good from then on11:37
kloscould this package be the problem11:37
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Fabompaul: ompaul: ok, the swap also primary?11:37
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klos?11:37
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imbrandonklos,try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"11:37
klosmaybe i shoudl use the ione wiht SMP support11:37
jamestheredwhere can I grab an mpeg plugin for totem?11:37
sopidopax: question: why should i install this xlibs package just for opera if the installation works fine without it (just the conflicts appear)?11:37
sopidoisn't there a way to let apt accept this installation without it?11:37
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sopidojust curious..11:37
SimplyFlowerDBO:  i'm back... made the change... rebooted the computer to see what would happen.  still no option screen it just takes longer for lilo to boot unbuntu.11:38
paxsopido: if you don't care about broken packages, do what you have to do,11:38
klosshould i choose the nvidia or the nv driver ??11:38
imbrandonsopido, becouse it might be missing some obscure feature that you are not noticing11:38
kbrookssopido: its just a package. install it11:38
imbrandonklos, i use nvidia11:38
DBOSimplyFlower, ah ha, so I now understand the problem... but as for a solution, I have but one stupid workaround to try =P11:38
DBOSimplyFlower, when you get to that blank screen where you are waiting, press the down arrow twice then hit enter11:39
sopidosure i will install but actually i really want to know if there is a way to accept this broken dependency .. just out of interest.. is there some wiki/faq about this?11:39
Fabompaul: should I make the paritions with fdisk or with the windows setup it's self?11:39
imbrandongrub > lilo hehehe11:39
DBOFab, use the windows setup itself11:39
FabDBO: oke11:40
jamestheredor does anyone have a URL to a guide to getting totem to play movies (especially mpegs)?11:40
FabDBO: I just don't want that mess I had before11:40
paxlilo is a thing of the past, altho stitch is still around11:40
DBO!tell jamesthered abour restricted11:40
FabDBO: that's why I'm so unsure ^^11:40
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DBO!tell jamesthered abour restrictedformats11:40
SimplyFlowerDBO:  ok...  there isn't a blank screen though... but where it says lilo at the bottom i will try it... brb11:40
DBOhmmm, doesnt work11:40
DBO!restricted11:41
ubotuit has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats11:41
DBOthere you go jamesthered11:41
imbrandondbo you mistyped "about"11:41
jamestheredDBO, thanks.11:41
imbrandonthats why11:41
DBOimbrandon, wow Im dumb11:41
klosimbrandon, my xorg.conf i the origianl one but there seems to be a drive conflict11:41
Fabokay, well11:41
klosshould i use the smp package11:41
Fabthank you guys for your help11:41
DBOanytime Fab11:42
Fabhave a pleasant day :)11:42
Fabcu11:42
kloslinux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-k7-nvidia-legacy or this one linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-k7-smp-nvidia-legacy11:42
imbrandonbrb gotta reboot, not sure klos thats why i said reconfigure it11:42
klos:(11:42
klosk thx11:42
imbrandonsmp is for multi pro kernels11:42
kloshm11:42
klosnah idont have this11:42
klosdamn11:43
imbrandondo the one that matches your kernel install11:43
imbrandonbrb11:43
klosyea11:43
imbrandonnvidia-legacy? why not nvidia-glx ?11:43
DBOklos, linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`-nvidia-legacy will get you what you want11:44
klosthere is no nvidia-glx11:44
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imbrandonumm sure there is , i'm running it as we speak11:44
klosi have the right one11:44
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klosyea11:44
SimplyFlowerDBO:  i'm back.  tried hitting the down arrow key 2x then hitting enter... nothing happened.  still boots directly to ubuntu.11:44
klosthe tutorial says that it needs both11:44
imbrandonsudo apt-get install nvidia-glx11:44
Nermal question: if I have previously been sent CDs from ubuntu, does anyone know if I'll be automatically sent the next release when it's out?11:44
kloshttp://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html11:44
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klosi ve got all11:45
DBOSimplyFlower, okies... well then it should be giving you a display but its not.  Though it IS still doing the delay11:45
DBOIm confused now11:45
Quan-Timeklos, close, now get triple monitor working for me11:45
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klosclose now ?11:45
mikemiezterhow come make command doesnt work when installing .tar.gz file11:45
klosah11:46
etmntanybody know how to config lm-sensors... I forgot the cmd and can't find nothing online11:46
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klosi dont get at least 2 monitors11:46
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etmntanybody know how to config lm-sensors... I forgot the cmd and can't find nothing online11:47
klosi#ll try the other kernel again :-/11:47
Quan-Timeklos, http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=close11:47
DBONermal, no you will not11:47
Quan-Timeclose meaning "almost, but not quite what i need"11:47
newstnihDBO it's not showing in network places11:47
Quan-Timei need 3 monitor guide, not 2 monitor guide11:47
DBOSimplyFlower, if you type when it says lilo at the bottom, does it do anything?11:48
newstnihi tried adding it and it won't show the folder for the computer11:48
DBOnewstnih, you mean for samba?11:48
newstnihyeah11:48
newstnih<--hntswen11:48
DBOnewstnih, on the windows machine, open explorer and type \\ipofsambamachine\sharename11:49
Quan-Timeuh huh11:49
SimplyFlowerDBO:  i'll try.  i doubt it... what it shows is:  LILO 22.6.1 __  , brb11:49
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skpl_can someone tell me what this error means? http://pastebin.com/68261411:49
sopidook thanks for your help.. got to go...11:49
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newbie_unixcan someone help me with make command?11:49
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kloshm i dont get this now the xserver runs again11:50
DBOskpl_, you have a bad .deb11:50
DBOI thinks11:50
kloswithout any changes. i only killed the restricetd module package11:50
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klos2.6.12-10-k711:50
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klosbut the kernel fits11:50
klos:(11:50
newstnihit's asking for username and password, i tried the ubuntu's user and pass and it didn't work11:50
DBOnewstnih, yep, you havent set up Samba users yet, we havent done that11:51
csgirlmsg/ ubotu11:51
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newstnihokay so how do i do that?11:51
paineshi11:51
DBOnewstnih, now back on the ubuntu machine type in terminal "smbpasswd" and give it a password for your user (NOT THE SAME PASSWORD PLEASE)11:52
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DBOthen use your username and the password you just entered to connect to the samba share11:52
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painesI am playing around with usplash and wondering howto change text size and text color. any idea ?11:52
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newbie_unixcan anyone help me how to use make command?11:54
newstnihDBO, it gave a error: account dissabled11:54
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ompaulpaines, perhaps this is the right directory to look in :-)  /usr/share/doc/usplash/ (I honestly have not looked myself)11:54
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DBOnewstnih, when did it give that error?11:54
rune_kgYO. Hey guys. Big problems. I m lost in MTAs', MUA's,...... What I Want is 5 pop3 accounts in emacs or mutt via ssh. I m ready to read and learn but I am overwhelmed by the number of options. What is the simplest solution? Thx a lot!11:54
kloshm ok i foudn the failure why the xserver didnt start but anyone her who could help why twinview doenst work11:54
DBOnewstnih, you didnt sudo it did you, dont use sudo =P11:54
klosi'll paste my x11org.conf into pastebin11:55
newstnihafter i retyped new password11:55
PuMpErNiCkLenewbie_unix: If you have teh 'build-essential' package installed, you've cd'ed to the right directory, and you've run ./configure, just run make.11:55
ompaulnewbie_unix, before you do >>sudo apt-get install build-essential<< run the command between the arrows11:55
newstnihi didn't use sudo11:55
newstnihold password i was supposed to leave blank right?11:55
DBOyes11:55
newstnihk well i didn't use sudo and left old password blank11:55
painesompaul: read both readme's in there. but didn't found the information11:55
SimplyFlowerDBO:  i'm back.  tried typing but nothing happened.  didn't have any effect at all.11:55
ompaulpaines, hmm more digging needed11:55
newbie_unixwhere can i get the build essential package?11:56
kloshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1291811:56
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DBOSimplyFlower, ok, now I really am out of ideas, I dont know lilo at all, perhaps if you ask ompaul11:56
klosplease someone take a look11:56
PuMpErNiCkLenewbie_unix: From the repository.  sudo apt-get install build-essential11:56
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DBOnewstnih, are you logged in as root?11:56
newstnihyes11:56
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newbie_unixthanx for the help...11:56
PuMpErNiCkLenewbie_unix: np :)11:56
DBOnewstnih, it wont work if you are using root...11:56
painesompaul: well, i will try to understand the sources. thanks mate11:56
newstnihwell i'm loged in using the first accout created lol11:57
SimplyFlowerDBO:  okay, thank you.11:57
newstnihoh... so i need to make a new account?11:57
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DBOnewstnih, yes, hold on, let me make you a command to do it all in one pass11:57
SimplyFlowerompaul: would it be possible for you to help me with getting lilo to work correctly?11:57
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newstnihnaw it k, i know how to make new user11:58
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DBOnewstnih, "sudo useradd remsamba -s /bin/false" then "sudo passwd remsamba" then "sudo smbpasswd remsamba"11:59
sysioshi11:59
dimohi everybody i want some help about configuring my wireless card to connect to a WPA-protected  Wireless Network. I was following one of the howTO's on ubuntu Forums but it didn't work.....Any Help?11:59
DBOnewstnih, yes, but we want to give a fake shell11:59
sysios have question11:59
DBO!ask11:59
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.11:59
sysiosi'm going to boot the ubuntu livecd from harddisk11:59
sysioswhat i must do?11:59
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skpl_can smoeone tell me what vmware, and what it is used for?12:00
DBOerm, install ubuntu normally if you want to boot from hard disk...12:00
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sysiosDBO, but i not have a space12:00
sysiosand i going to boot12:00
imbrandonvmware is like a virtual computer12:00
PuMpErNiCkLesysios: You can run the images in qemu, or burn them to disk and run them from cd.  Either works, I recommend the cd.12:00
sysiosthis is possible?12:00
Nermalskpl_: it's a virtual machine which can be primarily used to run windows under linux12:00
Nermalor the other way round12:00
DBOsysfault, you can boot from CD if you dont have space on your hard drive.  but if you dont have space on your hard drive, I dont see how you are goign to install the live boot on the hard drive...12:00
Nermalbasically a virtual x86 computer with it's own bios and everything12:01
klosanyone with an idea whats wrong with my xorg.conf12:01
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klos?12:01
DBOklos, did you paste it in pastebin?12:01
kloshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1291812:01
klosyea12:01
DBOok, lemme go take a gander12:01
klosthx12:01
newstnihDBO: Failed to find entry for user remsamba.12:01
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zzz_SKPL,you can run different OSs under linux.Such as ,linux,windows,bsd,sun os,etc12:02
jamestheredwhen you're installing something, how do you compile from source?12:02
sysiosslax have a funciotn to boot from harddisk12:02
sysiosubuntu no?12:02
PuMpErNiCkLeklos: You should comment out the "GLcore" module - it doesn't work with the nvidia module, last I checked.12:02
klosDBO, i do run with this configuration right now but the second monitor is dark12:02
klosok12:02
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DBOklos, no idea, sorry...12:03
sysiosits possible ? to boot livecd from hardisk?12:03
sysioswho have any ideas?12:03
DBOnewstnih, when does it give that error?12:03
newstnihafter sudo smbpasswd remsamba12:03
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_jim_if you want to boot live cd from hdd , why u dont install from install cd12:04
PuMpErNiCkLejamesthered: Install the 'build-essential', open a terminal, cd to the directory that has the source, and run './configure' 'make' and 'sudo make install'.  That's the most common way.12:04
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DBOnewstnih, cat /etc/passwd | tail -112:04
PuMpErNiCkLe*build-essential package12:04
newstnih?12:04
RobyXHow do I find my LAN ip using linux? I need to forward some ports right now.12:04
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jamestheredPuMpErNiCkLe, I've got build-essential, and thanks12:04
sysioshey why ubuntu dont have gcc??12:04
newstnihremsamba:x:1003:100::/home/remsamba:/bin/false12:04
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klosno change12:04
PuMpErNiCkLejamesthered: np :)12:04
klosre12:04
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klosDBO, you foudn any other failure ?12:05
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osfameronis there a way to embed .3gp documents to be played in a Linux browser?12:05
ompaulpaines, thanks to my ISP https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto12:05
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Nermalsysios: apt-get install gvv12:05
Nermalerm12:05
Nermalgcc12:05
[Leo] hi all12:05
Nermaland install build-essential12:06
osfameronas in, Quicktime (nope), Flash 8 (nope).  Anything else play .3gp that can live in a browser ?12:06
SimplyFlowerompaul, any ideas how i can get lilo to show the option screen so i can boot from either ubuntu or windowsXP?12:06
Nermalosfameron: yeah.. mplayerplug-in12:06
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ompaulSimplyFlower,  lilo must run  /sbin/lilo after you create the lilo.conf the way you want12:06
Nermalyou might need w32codecs installed as weell12:06
osfameronNermal: eeeek!  I think mplayer crashes everything... or was that totem?12:06
newstnih?12:07
osfameronNermal: thanks, I'll check it out12:07
Nermaldunno.. totem can if you use totem-xine12:07
ompaulSimplyFlower, it is so long since I used it I can't remember much about it12:07
Nermalthe totem mozilla / firefox plugin is shite12:07
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NermalI usually manually remove it12:07
ompaulNermal, we say rubbish12:07
SimplyFlowerompaul, i ran lilo after changing the lilo.conf.  but i still don't get the option screen when i reboot.12:07
NermalI say shite. deal.12:07
ompaulno deal12:07
Nermaloh don't get all pissy.. I'm helping people out here12:08
PuMpErNiCkLeNermal: ompaul is a channel op...12:08
Nermaland ?12:08
ompaulIm not getting anything - we don't do language that is all, thanks12:08
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PuMpErNiCkLeNermal: Well, that was my point in its entirety, really.12:08
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DBOnewstnih, im looking, hold up...12:08
newstnihokay12:08
Nermalompaul: /ignore nermal*!*@* ALL should fix the problem12:09
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Nermalbloody code of conduct waving people are the bane of this channel12:09
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alleyoopsterGood afternoon or morning depending on where you are. Can anyone help me get an HP Officejet scanner working in Dapper? Or even in Breezy? It is a printer / scanner combo, the printer works fine. Any takers?12:09
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Hattoriis there a way to resize monitor on kde? can't see some portion on the lower side of the monitor. how to move/resize monitor screen?12:09
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DBOnewstnih, doh, dumb me, I forgot to give you the -a "sudo smbpasswd -a remsamba"12:09
PuMpErNiCkLeharsh12:10
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SeveasPuMpErNiCkLe, call it a cooling down period12:10
newstnihokay added12:10
sysiosok bye12:10
Seveasthere's no room for heated egos or foul language in here12:10
PuMpErNiCkLeSeveas: ofc :)12:10
Seveasofc?12:11
DBOnewstnih, now use "sudo smbpasswd remsamba" to change the password (if it didnt prompt you to do it already)12:11
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newstnihchanged already12:11
Beanbaglearn how to ban people properly dear.. hostmask / etc12:11
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PuMpErNiCkLeSeveas: of course12:11
Beanbagyou want /ban *!*@lucy.nermal.net12:11
Beanbagto ban me12:11
Beanbagdid you win ops in a lottery or what ?12:12
DBOnewstnih, ok, you should be able to log in with remsamba as the user and the password you just made12:12
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Seveasban *!*@lucy.nermal.net12:12
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N3rmalnow you need to account for additional hosts12:12
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PuMpErNiCkLe*sigh*12:12
Seveassee, that's why we ban12:12
PuMpErNiCkLesome people...12:12
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newstnihbrb12:13
Hattoriis there a way to resize monitor on kde? can't see some portion on the lower side of the monitor. how to move/resize monitor screen?12:13
osfameronbeanbag?12:13
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Seveasgood call12:13
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ompaulSeveas, well its been smart before12:13
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Seveasnermal now has a permanent ban - I'll add him to the autoremove list12:14
ompaulI was trying to find this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:14
ompaulahh well12:14
Seveasiirc this is the 3rd time he's been annoying12:14
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ompaulat least12:14
Hattoriany idea?!12:14
DBOautoremove list?12:14
klosDBO, right now it uses this setting (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1280x1024,NULL"12:14
klos:-/12:14
ompaulDBO, if bad and bad again the front door remains closed12:15
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imbrandonubotu ircguide is Ubuntu IRC Guidelines https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:15
ubotuokay, imbrandon12:15
SeveasDBO, /cs autorem #ubuntu list12:15
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DBOompaul, oooooooh, you mean the "retirement" home12:15
imbrandon!ircguide12:15
ubotuircguide is, like, Ubuntu IRC Guidelines https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:15
Seveas!no forget ircguie is <reply> see guidelines12:15
ubotuSeveas: okay12:15
Seveasurgh12:16
Seveas!no ircguide is <reply> see guidelines12:16
ubotuokay, Seveas12:16
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Seveas!forget no forget ircguie12:16
ubotui didn't have anything called 'no forget ircguie', Seveas12:16
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osfameronENONERMAL :-)12:16
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osfameronanyone else got any pointers for how to embed a video to be played with mplayer plugin in firefox?12:17
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osfameronI'm not finding immediate googlehelp12:17
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imbrandonosfameron, should be the same as media player on windows guide12:17
Seveasosfameron, <object something> look on w3schools.com12:17
knuxxles anyone knows how to remove manually installed nvidia drivers from nvidia.com?12:18
osfameronah, ok, I have a generic object syntax, but not the clsid and other thingies specific to mplayer12:18
IceToxHow do I config my mouse to function with the scroll wheel?12:18
nookieknuxxles: you have guides there12:18
knuxxleswhere?12:18
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ompaul!nvidia12:19
ubotuit has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736812:19
imbrandonIceTox,you have to do the zaxis thing in xorg.conf lemme look one sec12:19
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imbrandonIceTox, add ( Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5" ) to your configured mouse in xorg.conf12:20
imbrandonwithout the ()12:20
nookieknuxxles: here http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=60712:20
imbrandonthen restartx12:20
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IceToxI'll check it out imbrandon12:20
RobyXMy torrent download speed is insane under Linux @_@12:22
RobyXWish I didint use Windows so much12:22
imbrandonIceTox, should look something like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1292012:22
soundrayI have a bluetooth problem. hidd terminates with an error: "Can't open input device: No such file or directory".12:22
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imbrandonRobyX, thats an easy problem to fix, just delete the windows partition and force your self to use linux ;)12:23
nookieis anyone else feeling that when they use wireless with network-manager that it goes much much slower12:24
RobyXlol12:24
DBORobyX, or install windows patented BSOD Magic12:24
DBOand realize you hate it12:24
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jamestheredwhen terminal's sudo apt-get command returns a Reading package lists... Done12:24
jamestheredBuilding dependency tree... Done12:24
jamestheredE: Couldn't find package message, what do you do to fix the situation?12:24
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er4z0rre12:25
DBOjamesthered, /etc/apt/sources.list -> pastebin12:25
jamestheredDBO: can you give that to me again in newbie dummy-talk?12:25
imbrandon!pastebin12:25
ubotumethinks pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126912:25
DBOsure12:25
IceToximbrandon, do I have to HUP the gdm then to make it work?12:26
DBOjamesthered, "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" highlight EVERYTHING, press ctrl+c, go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, paste it in the text window, click send, and give me the new link12:26
imbrandonIceTox, probbly12:26
IceToxthanks a lot imbrandon :-) Very good helping with that ubuntu pasting too :-) Thanks a lot! =)12:26
DBOjamesthered, is newbie dummy-talk your patent or can I steal that? =P12:26
imbrandonnp IceTox12:27
jamestheredDBO it's actually an adapted quote from the TV show Firefly12:27
newstnihDBO, you know how u said to use \\ipofsambamachine\sharename to get my files, is there some way i can include the username/password in that so i don't have to type it in?12:27
jamestheredDBO so steal away12:27
DBOnewstnih, no12:27
newstnih:( ok12:27
DBOnewstnih, you can have windows remember the password an username however12:27
alleyoopsteryou can use automatix to install the mplayer firefox plugin12:28
DBO!automatix12:28
ubotuwell, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.12:28
newstnihadd, i added it to my network places and it didn't ask me for password12:28
alleyoopsterwget http://beerorkid.com/automatix/automatix_5.8-1_i386.deb12:28
alleyoopstersudo dpkg -i automatix_5.8-1_i386.deb12:28
newstnihodd*12:28
DBOdo not recommend automatix please!12:28
imbrandonno automatic12:28
imbrandonno automatix12:28
ompaul!automatix12:29
ubotuhmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.12:29
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imbrandonumm just as easy to "apt-get install mozilla-mplayer"12:29
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paxdon't recommand any other script either12:29
IceToximbrandon, you don't happend to know how to add new screen resolutions too do you? I want to have a bigger resolution then 1280x1024 :S And is there a way to find out how big the graphical card accepts the resolution to be? :-)12:30
jamestheredapt-get is not working for me for some reason12:30
jamesthereddoesn't find the packages12:30
ompaul!resolution12:30
ubotuit has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:30
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ompauljamesthered, have you put in universe and multiverse?12:30
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IceToxI'll have a look ompaul :-)12:30
jamestheredompaul, nope12:30
imbrandonIceTox, i dont know how to do it other than "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" but i know thats not the best way12:30
jamestheredompaul, what are they?12:30
imbrandonbut it does work12:30
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IceToxsure thing imbrandon.. Tried that :-)12:31
ompauljamesthered, the reason you can't see lots of software :-)12:31
alleyoopsterhave a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:31
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jamestheredompaul, thanks, i'll go have a look12:31
ompauljamesthered, check out the message from the bot12:31
imbrandonummm who is alleyoopster talking to?12:32
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DBOno idea...12:32
alleyoopstersorry, to jamesthered12:32
IceToximbrandon, do you know where I can find out which video driver I've got then?12:32
soundrayPlease have a look at my issue. I have a program (hidd) that looks for some device files (/dev/uinput, /dev/input/uinput), doesn't find them and bails out. What can I do?12:32
jamestheredalleyoopster, no problem12:32
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IceToxlspci?12:32
imbrandonwhat does restricted formats have to do with apt-get not working ;)12:32
klosDBO, you found any failure ?????12:32
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alleyoopsterit gives you info on setting up repos12:33
DBOklos, nope, no idea what your problem is, im not an xserver person.  90% of what I do is on boxes that dont even run X12:33
imbrandonIceTox, lspci will give you the card, not the driver, the driver should be listed in the xorg.conf12:33
klosok12:33
klosthx12:33
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klosi postetd in the forum12:33
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imbrandonthe one you have loaded atleaste12:34
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DBOim out12:35
DBOlater guys12:35
imbrandonl8tr12:35
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imbrandonIceTox, you'll have something like ( Driver          "i810" ) under the device that is your vid card in xorg.conf12:35
RobyXWhy does my mouse cursor randomly freeze? my keyboard still works and i've restarted a few times12:35
RobyXI have to replug it for it to work again12:35
osfameronooo, I used to get that12:36
imbrandonbad mouse? lol dunno12:36
osfameronnope, ubuntu bug12:36
osfameronwith usb ouse12:36
imbrandonahh12:36
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osfameronI tried 3 separate mice12:36
RobyXOh12:36
osfameronI think using a ps/2 mouse is a workaround (I use touchpad on laptop, which is also badly configured...)12:36
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osfameronsometimes I hate using linux12:37
RobyXWell I better get that at the store tomorrow.12:37
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IceToxI thin I've got it now imbrandon.. I'm gonna run a restart at gdm and see :-)12:37
imbrandongood luck ;)12:37
soundrayI need a gentle introduction to udev. Can you help?12:38
imbrandonbrb , smoke break12:39
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imbrandonsoundray, and if you were asking me  i have no clue about udev ;)12:39
ompaulsoundray, the simplest thing there is to read the guy who said he was killing off devfs on the kernel mailing list in 2003 :-) - it does it all dynamically12:39
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ompaulsoundray, I have stuff on atm if you can wait a while I'll come back to it12:40
soundraySure -- I'll hang around.12:40
soundrayThanks ompaul12:41
markitoxs_hello, does anyone know, how to desactivate alt+click to move windows? I've looked in keybindings menu and can't find it..12:41
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soundraymarkitoxs_: system-prefs-windows12:41
markitoxs_ouch soundray thx, could never figure it was there12:42
markitoxs_thx12:42
markitoxs_cheers12:42
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leeyeeHi guys12:42
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leeyeeI'd like to compile a custom vanilla kernel12:43
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soundray!kernelcompile12:43
ubotuYou will probably find info about this at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto12:43
Yumi_matoHi, i can't install ubuntu dapper beta on a ibook g3 500 mhz.12:43
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leeyeeBut i don't know how to find the old .config file of my currently using kernel12:43
soundrayleeyee: look in /boot/12:44
IceToximbrandon, didn't get that resolution any higher, but the scroll works just fine now :-) thanks a lot12:44
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Yumi_matoWhen i boot from CD the screen gets blank even booting with live video=ofxx, don't remember well the command line12:44
imbrandonIceTox,np ;)12:44
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leeyeeYou mean this:12:44
imbrandonsorry couldent help more12:44
leeyeeconfig-2.6.12-10-686 ?12:44
soundrayleeyee: exactly12:45
leeyeewhat's this? I recall when i was using fedora, I can get .config file from /usr/src12:45
leeyeeand then i can do make oldconfig12:45
leeyeeHow can i do this on ubuntu?12:45
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soundrayleeyee: there are different ways you can go about this. Best if you look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto12:46
soundrayfor starters12:46
leeyeewell, thank you12:46
leeyeeI have found it12:46
leeyeeI'm reading, brb12:47
leeyeethanks again!12:47
osfameronhmmm, CrossoverOffice sounds like it might be worth the $4012:47
imbrandonosfameron, it is, i use it every day12:47
imbrandoni'm one of the "advocates" for it and can send you a tryal if you like12:48
osfameronimbrandon: I'm thinking of basically IE, Flash player, and possibly Excel12:48
cpl-tnt900Can any one help me setup a wireless network with D-Link DWL650+ ,Linksys WRT54G Router ?12:48
osfameronimbrandon: ooo, yes, that sounds helpful, I'll /query you, thanks12:48
imbrandonosfameron, yup would work perfect12:48
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imbrandonone sec osfameron lemme find the loki installer12:50
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imbrandonosfameron, run that from a USER account ( i.e. NOT sudo )12:52
leeyeewell, what's the make-kgkg meaning?12:52
leeyeeI can't find this command in my system12:52
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cirqueduphreaksorry i have a bad connection kept dc-ing12:53
IceToxWhere do I enable the support for wester union keyboards? I can't write the three latest charecters that we have included in the norwegian language. I used to.12:53
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lockheadIceTox, doubt it's your keyboard, think it's your char encoding12:56
soundrayleeyee: you are either spelling it wrong (make-kpkg) or you need a package called kernel-package12:57
Apostle^their might be bugs on some of you mugs but their aint no bugs on me12:57
FearMothwhen I add a new ext3 drive to my /etc/fstab, what do I put for the options, dump and pass columns if I'm going to be using it as my new /home drive?12:57
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Apostle^/dev/sda3       /home           ext3    defaults        0       212:57
leeyeeI just copyed the config file from /boot to the current folder12:57
leeyeeI'm compiling vanilla kernel downloaded from the kernel.org12:57
FearMothApostle^ what's the 2 mean in pass column?12:58
Apostle^not sure lol12:58
leeyeeIf there are many differences between the ubuntu source and it?12:58
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Apostle^leeyee: why are you configging your own kernel12:59
cpl-tnt900How can i define a wireless network adapter in laptop under ubunto ?12:59
leeyeejust for fun12:59
leeyeehehe....12:59
leeyeeI want to get a more custom kernel for my laptop12:59
FearMoththanks12:59
leeyeeif it won't work, i can also use the current one12:59
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cpl-tnt900leeyee do u know how can i define a wireless network under ubunto ?01:00
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leeyeehmmm...I'm not sure01:00
leeyeei have no wireless card on my laptop01:00
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soundraycpl-tnt900: what do you mean by "define"?01:00
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leeyeealthough it's running Pentium M chip01:01
IceToxlockhead where do I change my character set then? :-)01:01
cpl-tnt900i mean , from the moment i connect the pcmcia card...01:01
vxhow do i change my screen resolution, it seems to have vchanged itself to 600x? on its own01:01
cpl-tnt900i already have a DHCP server...01:01
cpl-tnt900just need to get the network running and im new to ubunto so ... i ask...01:01
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axismecpl-tnt900, has ubuntu detected it?01:01
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cpl-tnt900i think so ... i can see a network icon on the taskbar .. .but it has an alert sign on it01:02
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axismeyou using dapper drake or breezy?01:02
cpl-tnt900axisme  u refer me ?01:03
axismeyes01:03
aaronwhat is the url for multiverse for breezy?01:03
cpl-tnt900i use none ... i told ya i just connected the card..01:03
aaroni'm trying to get java-package01:03
soundraycpl-tnt900: go to System-Administration-Networking and see if there's a net device that corresponds to the card.01:03
_modcan some one help me on mpeg video playback?01:03
cpl-tnt900yes there is01:04
ivoks_mod: what's the problem?01:04
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RobyXaaron read this http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum11/HTML/017401.html01:04
cpl-tnt900i can see Wireless Connection wlan0 is active01:04
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_modi cant play any mpeg s or mp3 files...01:04
IceToxaaron If you need java, you could always try blackdown. YOu can get that using the add application feauture on the menu.01:04
soundraycpl-tnt900: so, can you ping your router?01:04
ivoks_mod: what ubuntu version? 5.10?01:04
_modi installed every mpeg package with adept that i could find01:04
_modyes... youre right01:04
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axismemod, install vlc01:05
cpl-tnt900soundray : instructions will be usefull ... since im new to the evirement.01:05
aaronRobyX: ahh found it01:05
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aaronhad to click add to show more repos'01:05
lockheadIceTox, dunno, when you find out let me know01:05
_modbut vlc is only a workaround isnt it... wanna install that needed codec01:05
IceTox*sighs*01:05
lockheadutf8 sucks if you ask me01:05
cpl-tnt900?01:05
ivoks_mod: install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse01:05
aaronIceTox: i need the latest version for dev'ing01:06
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soundraycpl-tnt900: the device being active *probably* means that your wireless card is already working.01:06
vxhow do i change my screen resolution in ubuntu?01:06
imbrandon!resolution01:06
ubotu[resolution]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:06
IceToxDoes anyone else know how to change the character setting so I can use the 3 extra norwegian characters?01:06
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Tidus!locale01:06
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tidus01:06
Tidusgah...01:06
TidusIceTox: check your locale settings, and check your keyboard map01:07
lockheadIceTox, dosnt work at all?01:07
cpl-tnt900<soundray : yeah i know but i cant surf or do anything wireless...01:07
vxthanks01:07
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soundraycpl-tnt900: you could confirm this by opening a terminal (Alt-F2, enter 'gnome-terminal') and running 'ping 192.168.1.1' (replacing the actual IP address of your router)01:07
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JDahlI am trying to setup a samba server under Dapper/Gnome. Browsing etc. works fine, but I can't find a place to configure anything wrt. passwords (which I want)...01:07
cpl-tnt900soundray and when i try ping in the terminal to 192.168.1.1 ( this is my router ) i get from 192.168.1.110 icmp_seq=x Destination host unreachable01:07
ivoksJDahl: there is no gui app for that yet01:08
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soundraycpl-tnt900: hmm, but apparently your machine has been assigned the .110 address via DHCP (unless you've set it yourself)01:08
JDahlivoks, I need to use smbadduser first, and then manually edit /etc/samba/smb.conf?01:08
cpl-tnt900soundray : i asigned it manually !01:09
ivoksJDahl: smbpasswd -a and yes, manually edit file01:09
cpl-tnt900should i move dhcp ?01:09
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ronyAre there any community repo's for dappa ?01:09
s-tonedAn usbstick plugged in is automounted at /media/usbstick, and /media/sda1. How can I change this? ("rgrep -i usbstick /etc" didn't find anything)01:09
JDahlivoks, ok... thanks!01:09
soundraycpl-tnt900: only if you have a DHCP server running on the router.01:09
cpl-tnt900i have ...01:10
IceToxlockhead everything works just fine, but I can't use the three last characters in the norwegian alphabeth, even though, they're here at my keyboard :-) I'll check it out Tidus01:10
ivoks_mod: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:10
cpl-tnt900soundray : any other suggestion ?01:10
soundraycpl-tnt900: where did you configure the IP address for wlan0 - in the dialog or in the file directly?01:10
cpl-tnt900soundray : i defined in the Network Setting01:10
lockhead01:10
lockheadops01:11
lockhead*fell asleep on my keys*01:11
IceTox:-)01:11
soundraycpl-tnt900: in that case, I suggest you configure DHCP and see what happens.01:11
soundraylockhead: are we boring you? ;)01:11
IceToxWell it used to work, but I was high on weed while installing last time, so I can't remember what I did to make it work :P01:12
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cpl-tnt900i did now i get a No entrance Sign on the network icon taskbar... doesnt seemed to helo01:12
codecaine_anybody got a good tutorial site for linux api?01:12
soundraycpl-tnt900: did you give it the ESSID that your router uses?01:12
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IceToxmight just have found it lockhead.. There was a language selector on the administrations menu.. There was option to enebale norwegian settings for writing.. I'll restart GDM and check it out :-)01:13
lockheadsoundray, no, lack of sleep. havent slept more than 5h the last 3 nights, added together01:13
soundraylockhead: new baby?01:14
ronyAre there any community repo's for dappa ?01:14
cpl-tnt900ESSID  ?01:14
cpl-tnt900dunno ?01:14
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JDahlcodecaine, there are a few good unix programming books, if that's what you had in mind (Steven's "Advanced Unix Programming" to mention one - you could look for that one + related books at amazon)01:14
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leeyeesoundray: hi, how can i know which hardware are running on my lappy?01:14
murraycHow can I report a launchpad/malone bug?01:14
ivoksrony: what is dappa?01:14
lockheadsoundray, no, new project in c01:15
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soundraycpl-tnt900: every wireless network has an identifier (ESSID). With a Linksys router, it is "linksys" by default. You have to tell ubuntu your ESSID in the networking dialog.01:15
ronydapper sorry01:15
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ronyAre there any community repo's for dapper01:15
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soundrayleeyee: are you asking so you can configure your kernel correctly?01:17
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leeyeeactually, just to configure it properly01:18
cpl-tnt900<soundray : yes i defined it ...01:18
soundrayleeyee: can I ask why you want to compile a kernel anyway?01:18
leeyeeI'd like to unselect as many as unneeded drivers01:19
leeyeeTo be honest, just for fun01:19
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leeyeethe current kernel works fine01:19
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leeyeebut i just installed it with apt-get01:19
leeyeeI want a custom one, although it might not work fine.01:20
leeyeeBut i think i can get it working properly some day01:20
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soundrayleeyee: a lsmod with your current kernel should show you the names of the modules you need.01:20
cpl-tnt900soundray : apprantrly there was a problem in the pcmcia ... now the power light is on in the device...01:20
soundraycpl-tnt900: so you're making headway?01:21
cpl-tnt900i pressed activate on the wireless network and now it doing: Activating interface wlan001:21
cpl-tnt900i think so ...01:21
cpl-tnt900now the interface is active ...01:21
cpl-tnt900chk pings ?01:21
soundraycpl-tnt900: try the ping now01:21
kingspawn!kernelcompile01:22
ubotuYou will probably find info about this at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto01:22
cpl-tnt900still unreachable01:22
kingspawnleeyee^^^01:22
soundraykingspawn: we're past that stage already.01:22
kingspawnsoundray: oh, sorry01:22
kingspawnjust barging in as usual01:22
soundraykingspawn: so rude, ts ts ;)01:22
kingspawn=)01:23
leeyeeHi kingspawn, what are you meaning for?01:23
soundraycpl-tnt900: is your router on and within wireless range?01:24
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kingspawnleeyee: I dont know, whats the problem?01:25
lrojaswhat is suposed to be the standard and better way to do sound? oss or alsa ?01:25
leeyeeI'm trying to compile my own kernel01:25
leeyeehehe....01:25
soundraylrojas: alsa is the only way these days. OSS is supported via a compatibility module.01:25
PuMpErNiCkLelrojas: alsa01:25
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lrojasthanks guys01:26
minuuulhello01:26
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cpl-tnt900soundray : yes , im talking to from the wireless on an other system with winxp01:26
ivoksleeyee: and, how's it going?01:26
leeyeenot bad01:26
soundraycpl-tnt900: are you using wep or wpa?01:26
ivoksleeyee: using ubuntu kernel source or vanilla source?01:27
leeyeeI'm still doing menuconfig01:27
cpl-tnt900soundray : none ...01:27
leeyeevanilla01:27
leeyee2.6.16.1101:27
ivokshm... ok01:27
cpl-tnt900soundray : using open wireless... for now...01:27
ivoksleeyee: any special need for that version?01:27
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cpl-tnt900soundray : every time i get the device activated i get an exclamation mark in the taskbar01:28
leeyeenope01:28
leeyeeI know few of the kernel actually, I just want a try01:28
minuuulhello, are anyone from indonesia??01:28
soundraycpl-tnt900: you could run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' to see any error messages that come up during the process.01:28
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leeyeeivoks: have you ever tried this?01:29
ivoksleeyee: compiling my own kernel? :)01:29
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ivoksleeyee: i was compiling it since '97... but stoped a year ago... there is no real use of that these days...01:29
soundrayivoks: I'm with you on that one01:30
leeyeehehe...I have just been using linux since mid-July 200501:30
ivoksdistributions provide really good kernels now01:30
kingspawnits still nice experience, imho, if you like tinkering with your comp01:30
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buithuhiensorri01:31
leeyeeindeed, but if i alway use that, i will never know the real thing of linux01:31
buithuhiencan i ask a question01:31
buithuhiendefault of root is : passwd ???????????????????????????01:31
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soundray!root01:31
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.01:31
buithuhienoh01:32
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buithuhienit mean that you can't login by root01:32
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ivoksbuithuhien: right01:32
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soundraybuithuhien: read the web link.01:32
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ivokskingspawn: it's allways good to know system better01:32
Trouble_Makerhowdi guys01:32
LinuxJonesTrouble_Maker: welcome01:33
Trouble_Makeri just installed ubuntu dapper drake.. i think it is called01:33
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buithuhienso how to access the ntfs partition01:33
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soundray!ntfs01:33
ubotuhmm... ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions01:33
Trouble_Makerim having troubles gettting sound to play01:33
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soundrayTrouble_Maker: go to #ubuntu+1 to ask dapper questions pls01:33
Trouble_Makerthanks :)01:33
Trouble_Makerwill do01:33
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buithuhien#ubuntu+101:34
LinuxJonesTrouble_Maker: usually you have to right click the sound icon in the taskbar, open Mixer Settings and unmute Master and Pcm01:34
soundraybuithuhien: /join #ubuntu+101:34
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buithuhienoh thanks01:35
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buithuhienbye01:36
morganhow may I access my ntfs partiton?01:36
leeyeeHi, do i need IPv6 selected here?01:36
buithuhienthanks for help me01:36
leeyeeI'm not very sure01:36
RobyXHow do you change the size of icons lol01:37
ivoksmorgan: cd into it?01:37
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soundrayRobyX: via Nautilus Edit-Preferences01:38
soundrayleeyee: I doubt that IPv6 would be of benefit to you. If it was, you'd know.01:39
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imbrandon!wine01:39
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LinuxJonesIRC server is gone wonky ?01:41
jarleWhat do you guys use for displaying output from /var/log/messages on the dektop?01:41
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soundrayjarle, gnome-terminal and tail01:41
kingspawnjarle: on the desktop as in gui?01:41
kingspawnjarle: im with soundray on that one01:41
LinuxJonesjarle, usually the tail command or less01:41
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jarleI have been using Eterm earlier (with tail), I'm now looking at Konsole, but I want a small scrollbar, not the big one that Konsole has..01:42
BeawolfeNeed help trying to straighten out a F**K UP in Firefox if possible01:43
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LinuxJonesBeawolfe: what's that ?01:43
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jarle...and I also want the terminal to startup running "tail -f /var/log/messages" when I start KDE...01:44
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soundrayjarle, sounds like you should ask in #kubuntu as well.01:45
BeawolfeLinuxJones...tried to install new theme and now all buttons are gone and no themes are present to change into....and commands are all jumbled together on the screen...HELP!01:45
zool2005i would like some advice about backing up partitions in Linux - partimage or dd?01:45
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BeawolfeLinuxJones... was fine until I restarted Firefox01:45
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LinuxJonesBeawolfe: do alt + t followed by t    that will open the themes dialog hopefully you can remove it from there01:46
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BeawolfeLinuxJones... window is blank01:47
soundrayzool2005: partimage is fairly smart and saves you headaches. dd has the advantage of being in practically every distribution (including rescue floppies).01:47
Seantaterjarle: Go to #kubuntu, I'll help you there01:47
BeawolfeLinuxJones As in no themes there01:47
zool2005cheers soundray01:47
LinuxJonesBeawolfe: argh, is this a fresh install ?01:47
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soundrayzool2005: also consider sbackup01:48
zool2005I know that Norton Ghost is usually recommended but it doesn't work with ReiserFS apparently01:48
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LinuxJonesBeawolfe: meaning do you have many bookmarks etc...01:48
plbgnrhello, can somebody help with wifi card (pci)? ...I have in /etc/network/interfaces line ' /sbin/iwconfig ra0 essid my_working_AP' ...but it does connect to another AP after booting ...then I must run sudo /sbin/iwconfig ra0 essid my_working_AP to get working internet connection ... can anybody help?01:48
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BeawolfeLinuxJones They also show up all crammed into a smaller space01:48
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soundrayplbgnr: that sounds wrong. You shouldn't place an iwconfig call in interfaces.01:49
LinuxJonesBeawolfe: when things like this happen to me I usually backup what I can (bookmarks or whatever) then purge remove the app and do a fresh install.01:49
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plbgnrsoundray: it was explained this way in doc for module for wireless card01:50
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fatalbertHi, I'm having trouble getting my network adapter working (i've tried both an realtek 8139 based card and an intel ethernet pro 100 card (using 8139too and e100 respectivly)). Both cards seem to be detected fine, however no traffic seems to be able to pass through them, including dhcp etc.01:50
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BeawolfeLinuxJones Install the whole OS?...just installed Ubuntu 2 days ago01:50
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kbrooksI have a CD with all my pictures on it01:50
plbgnrsoundray: http://www.methods.co.nz/doc/ralink-2400.html01:51
kbrooksand I'd like to get them off the CD01:51
kbrooksand onto my HD01:51
soundrayplbgnr: I suggest you configure your card via System-Administration-Networking instead of messing with the interfaces file directly01:51
LinuxJonesBeawolfe: no just remove (purge) firefox and do a re-install01:51
kbrookshow do I do that?01:51
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momo3instruction Google Adsense-->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/en.htm                 Download Firefox -->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Firefox3.htm01:51
kingspawnkbrooks: mount the cd and copy them01:51
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NET||abusehmm, is there a deb package for jre in firefox for breezy?01:52
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NET||abuseor do i have to configure jre manually?01:52
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soundrayNET||abuse: I'd use easyubuntu. Least trouble I've ever had installing java01:53
soundray!easyubuntu01:53
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu01:53
BeawolfeLinuxJones Trying that now I hope01:53
LinuxJonesBeawolfe: apt-get --purge remove firefox (that will remove the borked theme you installed. apt-get install firefox (to get a fresh copy re-installed)01:53
plbgnrsoundray: ok and when I use fluxbox?01:53
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BeawolfeLinuxJones I d/led Firefox to the desktop01:54
kbrookssoundray: be glad i'm involved in EasyUbuntu :-)01:54
soundraykbrooks: well done01:55
cpl-tnt900`soundray : hi again ... ok look i ran tail command , and got the following resaults  :01:55
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soundraycpl-tnt900: don't paste here!01:55
fatalberthow do i turn acpi off as a kernel option in menu.lst?01:55
cpl-tnt900wlan : no ipv6 routers present01:55
soundray!pastebin01:55
ubotusomebody said pastebin was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126901:55
cpl-tnt900dont paste !?01:55
soundraycpl-tnt900: it sounded like you were about to paste a massive amount of log messages01:56
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soundrayplbgnr: can you put your /etc/network/interfaces on the pastebin please01:56
prsFilesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on01:56
prs/dev/sda7              7692876   7657648         0 100% /01:56
prsShould 0 available concern me ?01:57
BeawolfeLinuxJones what dir is firefox in?01:57
prsThere are no obvious problems now.01:57
imbrandondepends on what sda7 is, if its a cdrom no01:57
kbrooksgr01:57
plbgnrsoundray: ok moment01:57
kbrooksi dont know why this doesnt work :-P01:58
soundrayimbrandon: a 7.5 GB cdrom? ;)01:58
imbrandondvd01:58
cpl-tnt900soundray : lol no .. i write down with my bare hands .. the linux is on the other comp...01:58
imbrandonlol01:58
prsSounds like there is a problem as sda7 is not a cd-rom (there is scd0)01:58
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kbrooksthe hd is spinning :/01:58
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ic56prs: by default, 5% of blocks are reserved for use by root.  Hence the disk shows 100% utilization even though used and total blocks don't match.01:59
kbrooksthere, stopped01:59
soundrayprs: it's not entirely full, but only root can write to the partition at this point.01:59
LinuxJonesBeawolfe: you can find out where any app is located by doing whereis appname01:59
plbgnrsoundray: http://pastebin.com/68278901:59
soundrayprs: if this is your root partition, you should probably do some cleaning up. Start with sudo apt-get autoclean01:59
vxhow do i re-instal my video card drivers, i was using the right ones at one point yesterday, but i had to modify an xserver file and i'm pretty sure i screwed up and it didnt detect my card02:00
kbrooksslow :|02:01
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kbrooksbut cd drives are that way02:01
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kbrooksat least the progress dialog is modal :|02:02
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BeawolfeLinuxJones So what dir should I be in to type the apt-get command then......I tried it in the home dir and it said purge was an invalid operation02:02
prsThank you for your time and quick response.02:02
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pygijoin #ubuntu-devel02:02
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AlthHey guys. Got a really stupid question for you. If, when copying a file in the gui, it says 'you do not have permission to copy to this folder', what should I do? Do I need to move the file command-line sudo? If so, help a poor newbie out and tell me the command >.<02:03
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cpl-tnt900soundray : what do u recommand to check next ?02:03
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Davey|LaptopAlth, or you can go to Applications > System Tools (?) > Root File Browser or whatever it is, bring up two iwndows and move it using that02:03
soundrayplbgnr: http://pastebin.com/682795 should work better02:04
kingspawnAlth: Sounds like you havent set your permissions correctly. Is this an ntfs disk?02:04
AlthThanks Davey, I'll give it a shot :)02:04
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AlthKingspawn, I'm copying from a SMB share on my windows box (NTFS) to my ubuntu laptop (ext3 filesystem).02:04
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kingspawnAlth: Aha. to your home dir?02:04
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AlthNo, kingspawn. My home dir isn't big enough, so I was copying, first to /, then to /usr. It's a big file.02:05
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AlthIt wouldn't let me copy to either of those directories, however.02:05
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intuos_penhi, how do i just get a list of packages installed on my pc?02:06
ben_underscoreAlth, on the same filesystem?02:06
kingspawnAlth: thats the problem then, you havent got write permissions there. as a quickie you can copy to /tmp, but that gets wiped when you reboot, so watch out02:06
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AlthKingspawn - it's a compressed file, so that's ok :)02:06
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Alth<ben_underscore> Alth, on the same filesystem? <-- Pardon?02:06
kingspawnAlth: good. you always have write permissions in /tmp02:06
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AlthOk, kingspawn, I'll try that :)02:06
AlthAh, copying, there we go :)02:07
BeawolfeLinuxJones ... did you read my last02:07
AlthThanks kingspawn. Sorry, I'm another sorrowful newbie :P02:07
kingspawnAlth: no problem at all02:07
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ic56Beawolf: apt-get doesn't care what the current directory is.02:07
soundraycpl-tnt900: let's recap. Your card appears as wlan0 in Admin-Networking. You configure it to use DHCP, entering the correct ESSID. DHCP works on the router, as demonstrated by your WinXP box. Still, the interface doesn't come up. Correct?02:08
Beawolfethen it says the purge command is invalid02:08
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soundraycpl-tnt900: and you haven't done any security tricks on the router, like MAC authentication?02:08
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BeawolfeAnd when I type it with just the remove command it says I dont have permission to unlock a file02:10
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plbgnrsoundray: ok I'll try but on mentioned page which should be HOWTO for module for wifi card is paragraph about why aren't used wireless tools (http://www.methods.co.nz/doc/ralink-2400.html)02:12
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Bog_hello02:12
Bog_does anyone know the minimal install to get VMWare server to run?02:13
ic56Beawolfe: did you remember to use sudo on the apt-get commmand/02:13
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BeawolfeStill says purge is an invalid operation02:15
Bog_what is the remote desktop in system preferences?  VNC?02:15
bwlangBog_: uh... you just install it using their install.sh  should be fine.  ( i couldn't get it running on 64 bit though)02:15
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intuos_penhi, how do i list all my installed packages?02:15
Boglizki hav a highlight on bog.. lol02:16
Bog_bw: I want to do a minimal install before I add vmware server02:16
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leeyeeaha..i finally finished configure02:16
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arrickbog02:16
leeyeethen i should do  "make all", eh?02:16
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arrickBog_, type server when you install02:16
ic56Beawolfe: firefox should not be running when you try to remove it with apt-get.02:16
soundrayintuos_pen: dpkg -l (or ls /usr/share/doc)02:16
kingspawnBeawolfe: remember two -   --purge02:16
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Beawolfeit isn't02:17
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bon_what would i need to install to get 5.1 surrond sound wroking02:18
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ic56Beawolfe: I don't know what's wrong with it then.  Try repeating the full command line you used plus the error message so that others might answer.02:18
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BeawolfeI that got it ...I am very new to this and I added a space to the command line when I shouldnt have02:19
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nikosgrhello02:19
nikosgr<nikosgr> hello guys02:19
nikosgr<nikosgr> i have just installed ubuntu02:19
nikosgr<nikosgr> and i noticed it disn ask me for a root password02:19
nikosgr<nikosgr> an when ask for a pass02:19
nikosgr<nikosgr> with sudo i must give my user pass02:19
nikosgr<nikosgr> how is this normal?02:19
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feydinhi, is there a way to encrypt an imap folder and make it only readable when i connect with my email client?02:19
intuos_pensoundray: dpkg -l isn't accurate, it list packages which i already removed.02:19
ic56!root02:19
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.02:19
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bwlangintuos_pen: you have to "purge" packages to fully remove them (including their configuration)02:20
bon_what would i need to install to get 5.1 surrond sound wroking02:20
AlthOk, kingspawn, I went to extract my compressed game to /usr, and guess what? I still can't write there. How can I make it so? :P02:20
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Beawolfewell unfortunatly that didnt fix the problem02:21
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nikosgryesthen why it asks for a password?02:21
nikosgri eman it wants sudo bu thena gain it doens require root password02:21
nikosgrso what the point in sudo ?02:21
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intuos_penbwlang: dpkg -l shows it but the packages cannot be found already in synaptic "installed" list.02:22
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kellemes_psudo makes you root for some time, 10 or 15 minutes or so.. dependes on how configured.02:22
ic56nikosgr: sudo asks for your personal password to confirm who you are, then grants you the privileges that its config file says you're allowed to have.  Subsequent sudo commands, upto a configured timeout, won't ask you for a password.02:22
BeawolfeI guess I will have to format and reinstall ubuntu all over again.........................Hate to say it but atleast WinXP waited about 3 months before I had to do a reinstall instead of 3 days02:22
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LinuxJonesBeawolfe: no, remove the .mozilla directory from within your home directory02:23
AlthOk. I need to extract this file somewhere, but it's too big for my home directory. Where can I stash it?02:23
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AlthHey Hobbsee :)02:23
kingspawnnikosgr: it is asking for _your_ password02:23
nikosgryes02:23
Hobbseehi Alth02:23
intuos_penbwlang: is there a way that can make synaptic and dpkg list of installed packages in sync?02:23
nikosgrbut i think this is alittle crazy02:23
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AlthHow've you been, Hobbsee?02:23
LinuxJonesBeawolfe: then dpkg-reonfigure firefox02:23
nikosgrwhy is askign me for my passwors sinc eiam already lgged on?02:23
ic56Alth: do you actually have free diskspace anywhere on your system?02:24
kingspawnnikosgr: it enables you to do root work. well, you might forget to log out, and then asking for a password is good if someone sits down at your computer02:24
kingspawnnikosgr: you might run some crazy script that has a little thing that deletes your whole harddrive in it. then you will be glad sudo asks for your pass02:24
ic56nikosgr: because you might have stepped away from your terminal and someone else might have taken over while you weren't looking.  Root access needs to be well protected.02:25
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Althic56: Yes, I have plenty of diskspace, but I partitioned my home directory quite small and my / directory quite big.02:26
Beawolfewell that didnt fix it either02:26
Jimmey__How can I access / print from a shared printer that's attached to a Windows machine02:26
nikosgryes kingspawn and ic56 :-)02:27
nikosgrtrue02:27
nikosgrnow thats clear to me02:27
nikosgrbut when it asks for a password02:27
djs!tell Jimmey__ about xpprint02:27
nikosgrshouldnt that passord be aroot pass sicne iam tryign to run commands as root?02:27
Jimmey__Thankyou02:28
djsJimmey__: yw :)02:28
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kingspawnnikosgr: no. this makes it possible to have different users do small root tasks. with sudo, you can limit what a user can do with sudo :)02:28
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ic56Alth: yes, /tmp gets cleared on boot and possibly also periodically every few days or so.  Is this something you need to install on the system, or is private user data?02:30
nikosgryes but kingspawn if a user can run 'sudo' then he may use it all the time to do anything he likes in the system02:30
nikosgrso it si actually as loggen is as root02:30
BeawolfeLinuxJones ... where is the .mozilla dir then02:30
AlthIt's something I need to install on the system. Linux binaries for a game.02:30
kingspawnnikosgr: i just told you that you can limit what they can do with sudo...02:30
Beawolfeit isnt in my home dir02:30
kingspawnAlth: then stick it in tmp and install from there02:30
kingspawnBeawolfe: directories starting with . are hidden02:30
Althkingspawn: No, it doesn't install, it extracts and is then...installed, I guess. >.>02:30
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nikosgrso with sudo someone for example cannot format his /02:31
AlthIt extracts to have the folder structure I need to run the game. I just want to know where I can put it that's not /home or /tmp :P02:31
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kingspawnAlth: haha, well, put it in tmp, sudo mv file /where/you/want, and get on :)02:31
ic56nikosgr: your objection is valid -- the way sudo is used with Ubuntu, the user isn't actually prevented from doing anything -- only discouraged and warned02:31
kingspawnAlth: technically you can put it whereever you'd like, with a couple of exceptions02:32
Althkingspawn: Can I move a folder that way?02:32
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kingspawnAlth: yes02:32
AlthRight, thanks, that's all I needed to know >.<02:32
ic56nikosgr: there is nothing preventing you from creating a root password, if you prefer to manage your system that way.  Just sudo passwd.02:32
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kingspawnic56: I also object to the 15 minute timeout02:32
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nikosgrwell ic56 iam used to work as root in many cases02:34
nikosgrand i prefer it opposed tohave to 'sudo' all the time02:34
nikosgrso i think ill use sudo passwd02:34
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nikosgrup until now there ws no root password?02:36
kingspawnnikosgr: correct.02:36
nikosgri eman until i picked one now02:36
nikosgryes02:36
Sonderbladehow do you do to apt-get install a special version of a package?02:36
cahill_johni got probs with ubuntu guys02:36
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cahill_johnSOMEONE HELP ME02:36
Warbocahill_john: Be more specific please :)02:37
ic56Alth: is this a tar file?02:37
cahill_johni need to configure my IP Address02:37
nikosgrif i wan to witch for nikos to root i must su root or su - root ?02:37
cahill_johnbcoz DHCP failed to do so02:37
nikosgrs/witch/switch/02:37
Warbocahill_john: Is this to a router or another machine?02:37
Alth<ic56> Alth: is this a tar file? <-- Yes.02:37
cahill_johnno02:37
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cahill_johni wanna type in my static IP02:37
cahill_johnhow can i do that02:37
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djsSonderblade: download the .deb and try installing it using dpkg02:38
cahill_johnhello warbo02:38
Warbocahill_john: You can do it in the Networking tool in System>Administration, but you need to know a valid one first02:38
Jaseyquick question: logged into root in graphical (my reasons are my own, dont tell me this is not recommended i already know that) and some of the menus are missing. the administration menu for example... quite annoying. using dapper drake beta.02:38
cahill_johni know my IP address02:38
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cahill_johni know the complete shit and i need to type it in02:38
BeawolfeTime to format and reinstall I guees02:38
cahill_johnhow can i do that plz02:38
ic56Alth: Use: tar tvf <file>  to find out what directory hierarchy it wants to install in.  Tell us if the pathnames in there begin with /usr /usr/local or /opt or if they are relative (don't begin with slashes)02:39
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Warbocahill_john: You can do it in the Networking tool then, or in a terminal type "ifconfig eth0 youripaddress"02:39
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nikosgri see its sudo -i02:39
cahill_johnand what abt my subnet mask and gw02:39
nikosgrmany things are differnet for other linxu distros02:39
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cahill_johnhelp warbo!02:39
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_Dezhow do i run xfce4 i already installed it02:39
Warbocahill_john: Hmmm. Not sure about the ifconfig commands for that (try "man ifconfig") but it is easy in the graphical tool02:40
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waylandbillcahill_john, you just type those after the address.. as shown in the ifconfig man page02:40
cahill_johnmy graphical tool asks for my password02:40
Jaseyput it in then02:40
cahill_johni enter it but it doesnt accept02:40
Jaseyoh02:40
vxhow do i get ubuntu to let things boot from cd, seems it will only let itself reformat02:40
Sonderbladedjs: do i have to do that manually?02:40
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Warbo_Dez: You should get the option to run xfce as your session in the login screen02:40
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Jaseyodd02:40
cahill_johnyeah jasey02:40
Jaseyyoure putting in your own pw right?02:40
_Dezthx Warbo02:40
Jaseynot the root or anything02:40
cahill_johni logged in02:41
cahill_johnmy root and password r same02:41
Althic56: it's ok, I used kingspawn's 'sudo mv' thing, it's fine now. Thanks anyway :)02:41
Jaseyoh02:41
Jaseyoddness02:41
cahill_johni could log in02:41
nikosgri also noticed that be default ubuntu logns in in gnome (wehich is fine)02:41
cahill_johnwith that very password02:41
nikosgrbut i down have xfce402:41
Warbocahill_john: If your internal networking (Linux talking to itself) is screwed then you may not be able to run things as super user. More likely is that you are not in the admin group02:41
cahill_johni am02:41
djsSonderblade: yes, sorry i don't know any way using apt based tools02:41
nikosgrbecaus ei ddi an installation setup02:41
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nikosgrapt-get install xfce4 wont do it02:42
cahill_johni logged in as root in the terminal02:42
Warbocahill_john: OK then, gimme one second :)02:42
nikosgrPackage xfce4 is not available, but is referred to by another packag02:42
apt-gettry apt-get reconfigure02:42
waylandbillnikosgr, you should be able to choose xfce session from the gdm login02:42
scultzi just installed breezy and it did not recognize my on board sound. the pci chip set sound is listed in gnome device manager as "at-style speaker sound".  what do i need to do to get this to work?02:42
nikosgri clciked on sessions but it isnt there02:42
cpl-tnt900<soundray> cpl-tnt900: let's recap. Your card appears as wlan0 in Admin-Networking. You configure it to use DHCP, entering the correct ESSID. DHCP works on the router, as demonstrated by your WinXP box. Still, the interface doesn't come up. Correct? YES ...02:42
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nikosgrits not instaled02:42
waylandbillnikosgr, oh..02:42
cpl-tnt900<soundray> cpl-tnt900: and you haven't done any security tricks on the router, like MAC authentication? YES correct ...02:43
Warbocahill_john: I just checked the command, if you can log in as root in a terminal then type "network-admin" to open the graphical tool02:43
nikosgrit was inatleld from cd 6.0.6 toreent file02:43
nikosgrthat i ahev downlaod and burned02:43
cahill_johnok02:43
nikosgrunfortunately it wasnt a dvd one02:43
nikosgrso it coudl ahve allt he packages02:43
cahill_johnthen how do i proceed to configure it02:43
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cahill_johncan u tell me the way to avoid my graphical tool?02:43
nikosgrroot@dell:~#  apt-get reconfigure02:44
nikosgrE: Invalid operation reconfigure02:44
cahill_johnand directly use the terminal?02:44
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vxany warcrack advocates? trying to update world of warcraft, using cedega, i'm getting FATAL ERROR!,  \directoryect\bnupdate.exe, 0x406FCE21 referenced memory at 0x00000000" the memory could not be "read".02:44
Warbocahill_john: You should see your devices. Click on the one you want to configure and then click the configure (or something like that) button on the right, enter your IP and stuff, click OK then Activate and OK02:44
Hobbseenikosgr: apt-get --reconfigure, maybe?02:44
cahill_johnubuntu isnt accepting a correct passowrd02:44
apt-getnikosgr , i thought apt-get reconfigure xfce402:44
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Hobbseenikosgr: i thought it was sudo dpkg-configure -a or something02:44
cahill_johncan i use ifconfig?02:44
Warbocahill_john: I will have to check the ifconfig manual for a minute to find the exact command02:45
kingspawnvx: if something is trying to access memory at 0x00000000, it will fail hard, usually02:45
cahill_johnok02:45
kingspawnvx: other than that, I have no idea, never tried using cedega or anything related to it02:45
waylandbillI've heard people talking about the root password... how'd they set that, cause I was never asked to supply one. Is that done with some advanced install or something?02:45
kingspawnwaylandbill: no need to set it, you have sudo02:45
apt-getmhm02:45
apt-getsudo is much better02:45
Jaseyquick question: logged into root in graphical (my reasons are my own, dont tell me this is not recommended i already know that) and some of the menus are missing. the administration menu for example is depleted... quite annoying. using dapper drake beta. how do i restore all my icons and things. tried alacarte, but did not do anything.02:46
kingspawnJasey: #ubuntu+102:46
Jaseyoki then02:46
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apt-getcopy the config files from your old home partition02:46
waylandbillkingspawn, yeah. I know of sudo and the ubuntu way of doing it. I just keep seeing people referring to their setting of the root password and thought they were using some black magic or something.02:46
waylandbillI prefer sudo myself anyway.02:46
kingspawnwaylandbill: sudo passwd root, or just sudo passwd does the black magic02:47
waylandbillkingspawn, ah yeeesss.... of course.. the answer was so simple. hehe02:48
prs # cd ${xvidcore}02:48
prs  # dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot  --> produces errors. Can you tell if this is correct syntax ?02:48
Warbocahill_john: OK, I think it is "ifconfig yourdevice netmask netmaskaddress ipaddress" where yourdevice is something like eth0, netmaskaddress is your netmask address and ipaddress is your ip address. Sorry, I can't find the gateway, try asking someone else02:48
cahill_johnits eth002:48
AlthAfter all that, the damn game doesn't work :P02:49
AlthMissing some library or other.02:49
cahill_johnok i'll restart in linux and try it02:49
cahill_johnthanx warbo02:49
ic56cahill_john: default gateway is configured with the route command.  The other stuff with ifconfig.02:49
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kkathmanor you can use sudo network-admin02:49
kingspawnAlth: Aint it wonderful?02:49
Warbonp02:49
trappistor use /etc/interfaces02:50
trappisterr /etc/network/interfaces02:50
kingspawncahill_john: rout add default gw <ip>02:50
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kingspawncahill_john: might make that "route" and not "rout"02:50
Althkingspawn. Yes. :P02:50
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cahill_johnrout02:50
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cahill_johnin the same line or differnt line02:50
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kingspawncahill_john: what? rout is simply wrong, type route instead02:50
jadijadion my new laptop (sony vgn-s580) ubuntu doese not boots ! :( what is the problem ?02:50
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Warbo"route add default gw ipaddress" I think he means02:51
cahill_johni mean do i type route in the same lne as this02:51
ubuntusalve02:51
cahill_johnor in a different line02:51
AlthQuick question - easy way to remove a folder at the command line? rm, right?02:51
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Whatsisnamerm -r02:51
Warbocahill_john: Use ifconfig and route on seperate lines02:51
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cahill_johnok thanx02:51
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samuel_speak italien02:51
ic56!it02:52
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:52
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eThyanxhi all02:52
jadijadion my new laptop (sony vgn-s580) ubuntu does not boots. hangs while "mounting root file system"02:52
Warbojadijadi: Do you use a weird type of drive (USB, SATA or something?)02:53
kkathmansudo network-admin  will give all options for network settings (it writes the /network/interfaces)02:53
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AlthOk, thanks for the help guys :)02:53
DerekHeI have a question.02:53
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jadijadiwarbo: maybe ! I dont know much about computers !02:53
jadijadilet me check the specifications02:53
HymnToLifeDerekHe> ask it then :)02:54
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Warbojadijadi: Just that I sometimes get that problem, but then I realise my external hard drive is not switched on :)02:54
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jadijadiwarbo: i do now have a external02:54
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DerekHeWhy not the Freetype, Libxft, and the Libcairo2 can't make bold text for Chinese in official release02:54
Warbojadijadi: Did you install Ubuntu on it?02:54
jadijadiyes02:55
DerekHeWhy not the Freetype, Libxft, and the Libcairo2 make bold text for Chinese in official release02:55
jadijadii this it's hard is sata02:55
_DezWarbo that didnt work there was no option to switch to XFCE402:55
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DerekHeNow, many Chinese users use unoffcial patch to make bold text for Chinese fonts.02:56
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Warbojadijadi: OK, You need to enable SCSI and SATA at boot, but I'm not sure how to do that (I forgot how I got my USB working)02:56
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DerekHeAnd we need an official patch in Ubuntu02:57
jadijadiI have to enable scsi and sata at boot ? thanks. let me search for it.02:57
Warbojadijadi: You could ask someone here, just that I'm not sure02:58
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prsWhat is Synaptic should be selected to get 'make' ?03:01
Warboprs: build-essential03:01
PuMpErNiCkLeprs: 'build-essential'03:01
_jasonprs: build-essential03:01
PuMpErNiCkLelol03:02
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kingspawnremember build-essential, man03:02
soundrayprs: at least you can be certain now ;)03:02
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kingspawnsuch a helpful bunch03:02
hajuuI just have no idea whats wrong with my sound03:02
_jasonubotu: tell hajuu about sound03:02
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_Dezhow do i run xfce4 i already installed it03:03
prsThank you _jason, PuMpErNiCkLe, Warbo !!!03:03
dg_wIs iit in the gdm sessions list ?03:03
waylandbill_Dez, gdm should have it in the session list03:03
soundray_Dez: select the appropriate session at the login screen03:03
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roni87hi all03:04
Warbohi03:04
dg_wIs there a clamav frontend in the Ubuntu repos ?03:05
immolowhy would you need a frontend to clamav?03:05
dg_wJust fancied one :)03:06
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immololol you know clamav is mainly used to stop windows virus03:06
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_Dezdo i need ot install gdm?03:06
dg_wYep ...03:06
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WarboShould we be stopping them, as that gets rid of incentive to dump Windows :)03:07
dg_w:)03:07
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slavikI have a printer on my WinXP system set up for sharing ... how do I get to it from ubuntu?03:07
immolodg_w, why do you need one when you run linux03:07
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roni87is it true that virus can't infect linux ?03:07
slavikroni87: no03:07
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immoloroni87, of course not03:07
_jasonroni87: no, it's just really hard and unlikely03:07
soundray_Dez: if you haven't got gdm, log in on the text console and try startx03:07
aliguorithere just aren't that many of them03:07
dg_wI dont NEED i want :)03:07
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aliguoriactually, it's not any harder than windows...03:07
_DezGnome loads when i do startx03:07
roni87ok, why then ?03:07
_Dezi want xfce4 to load03:07
Warboroni87: There are very few, and those can't do much harm due to permissions (don't run as root)03:08
slavikroni87: what is true is that there are much less virii (sp?) for linux as compared to windows03:08
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dg_wI got loads of documents through this machine ... from the file server , WHICH "COULD" BE INFECTED ..03:08
immolomost linux virus are more worms of which Ihave heard of 303:08
dg_wi FORWARD THEM ON03:08
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soundrayslavik: viruses (or viri if you want to be fancy)03:08
slavikWarbo: if windows users followed the same root/user mentallity as Unix/Linux has had for decades, many Windows virii would not exist03:08
domsany body knows a libpq.so dynamic lib, i hav a executable programm from windows made by delphi then i install it in ubuntu box using codeweaver but when i run it in crossover it promt libpq.so? how can find this for a solution03:09
immolodg_w, then run clam on the samba share03:09
StonekeeperDoes anyone know how long "downloading the release file" takes to timeout in espresso? I'm behind a proxy and it's just hanging. Thanks...03:09
damian_what's the package name for the gdlibs? :/03:09
WarboI know a guy who found a bug in windows, he couldn't fix it 'cos it isn't open source. What could he do? He made a virus03:09
roni87yes, i've proofed that....03:09
slaviksoundray: I dunno, which is more correct?03:09
soundrayslavik: viruses03:09
slavikdamian_: libgd ?03:09
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slaviksoundray: ty, will remember that :)03:09
domsany body knows a libpq.so dynamic lib, i hav a executable programm from windows made by delphi then i install it in ubuntu box using codeweaver but when i run it in crossover it promt libpq.so? how can find this for a solution03:09
WarboHe left the virus to run, to test his concept. He came back from 2 weeks holiday and "MSBlaster worm" was everywhere. That is actually true03:10
_Dezwoot it worked03:10
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soundrayslavik: take it from a doctor ;)03:10
slavikso, usb printer on winxp ... how do I get to it from ubuntu03:10
eneriedhello ;)03:10
slaviksoundray: I thought that virii was more correct since the term comes from latin?03:11
Warboslavik: You need to set up Samba, but that's all I know03:11
auth00_I am running dapper and I can't start gdm after my apt-get upgrade this morning. Anyone else have the same problem? I get a kernel freeze...03:11
damian_mm, cant aptget any gd's03:11
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immoloWarbo, you are trying to say a hole that has been known about for years was just found a few weeks before msblast03:11
slavikWarbo: I know that too, but need help with that03:11
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jadijadimy laptop hangs on boot (while mounting root file system) :( how can I add SATA support to my Ubuntu ?03:11
chuckypdamian_, you may need universe or multiverse enabled03:11
eneriedi want to install ubuntu in my pc but having access from my windows Os to that partition... its better to use ext3 or ext2??03:11
soundrayslavik: virii is most certainly and definitely wrong, even in the Latin03:11
kingspawn!xpprint03:11
ubotuPrinting from ubuntu to an XP connected printer - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter.  Printing from XP to an ubuntu connected printer - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP03:11
damian_ahh. i've got it03:11
damian_!03:11
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, damian_03:11
damian_ta03:11
mustafuIs there a OSS solution for editing PDF files?  Does OO.org do it by chance?03:11
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stevebi think OOo can export to pdf03:12
slaviksoundray: ty ... shows not to look at slashdot for proper spelling/grammer03:12
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slaviksteveb: you are correct03:12
stevebi dont think it can edit them but dont quote me03:12
Warboimmolo: I don't know. Just that he made msblast (actually msblast-b, because a variant was found first) and released the source on Yahoo!. The police have dealt with him though03:12
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jadijadimustafu: yes. OOo can print to PDF03:12
domsany body knows a libpq.so dynamic lib, i hav a executable programm from windows made by delphi then i install it in ubuntu box using codeweaver but when i run it in crossover it promt libpq.so? how can find this for a solution03:12
_Dezthanks guys03:12
jadijadimy laptop hangs on boot (while mounting root file system) :( how can I add SATA support to my Ubuntu ?03:12
_Dezyall rock !!03:12
mustafuok, thanks03:12
cyphasehmm03:12
slavikdoms: install libpq03:12
hajuuok sound just started working03:12
cyphasemy video card is vibrating03:12
nikosgrguys what is apot-get reconfiguration?03:12
cyphaseloudly03:12
immoloWarbo, you could be right I'm thinking of code red03:13
slavikI realized something ... only OSS can make communism really work03:13
Warbonikosgr: dpkg-reconfigure reconfigures packages (and may ask you questions)03:13
slavikcyphase: fan dying, maybe03:13
domswere i can install libpq03:13
slavikdoms: 1 sec03:13
cyphaseslavik, it's a pretty new card..03:13
Warbocyphase: My graphics card fan doesn't work at all03:13
domsi hav a libpq3 and libpq4 installed03:13
nikosgrwhats the relationship bettween apt-get and dpkg ?03:13
slavikcyphase: hmm, what make/model03:13
domsthats not the same03:13
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jadijadimy laptop hangs on boot (while mounting root file system) :( how can I add SATA support to my Ubuntu ?03:13
slaviknikosgr: apt-get is on top of dpkg03:14
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Warbonikosgr: dpkg deals with the packages and the files in them, apt makes sure you have the needed packages (dependencies)03:14
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_Dezis there a way i can make "modprobe ndiswrapper" and "dhclient" everytime i boot?03:14
cyphaseslavik, GeForce4 Ti 440003:14
slavikdpkg only deals with deb files and such I think, apt-get uses dpkg and adds network support for repositorie and such03:14
Warbo_Dez: Ad them to /etc/modules03:14
soundray_Dez, add them to /etc/modules03:14
_Dezthx03:14
slavikcyphase: hmm03:14
nikosgri see03:14
soundray_Dez: not dhclient...03:14
nikosgran syanptic is a well implementes apt-gets' fronend03:15
cyphaseslavik, i just woke up, so it could have been going for hours03:15
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_Dezk just add modprobe ndiswrapper on the next line in modules?03:15
nikosgrbut why ap-get or dpkg need reconfiguration?03:15
leeyeeHi guys03:15
Warbonikosgr: Exactly. Seems a little wasteful (so many programs to do 1 thing), but it works quite well03:15
slavikcyphase: not a good sign for sure. is it just vibrating? or just plain loud?03:15
nikosgrwhy i just cant install xfce4?03:15
leeyeei have finished the kernel compilation03:15
leeyeeBut i don't know how to install it properly03:15
soundray_Dez: no, just ndiswrapper03:15
sneexfajita is mia ?03:15
nikosgri just want xfce403:15
domsany body knows a libpq.so dynamic lib, i hav a executable programm from windows made by delphi then i install it in ubuntu box using codeweaver but when i run it in crossover it promt libpq.so? how can find this for a solution03:15
cyphaseslavik, well..03:16
_Dezk03:16
Warbonikosgr: They don't need reconfiguring, the packages do. Do you want to change your X? Reconfigure the package xserver-xorg03:16
jadijadimy laptop hangs on boot (while mounting root file system) it seems it is becaue of my sata hda :( how can I add SATA support to my Ubuntu ?03:16
leeyeeI did "sudo make all" and "sudo make modules_install" "sudo make install"03:16
chuckypdoms, try apt-get apt-file then you can apt-file search libpq.so03:16
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_Dezok how do i do dhclient03:16
leeyeeBut i can't see the new kernel version in /boot/grub/menu.lst03:16
nayifj/ #ubuntu+103:16
nikosgrWarbo: what we mean when we say we are reconfiguring a package?03:16
slavikdoms: in terminal "sudo apt-get install libpq4"03:16
cyphaseslavik, it's making a noise like someone's typing out morse code, only fast03:16
cyphase:P03:16
Inner|REwhats the quickest way to convert .ogg to .mp3?03:16
cyphaseand it kind of goes in and out03:16
cpl-tnt900Soundray u there ?03:16
soundrayI need advice please: I have a program that looks for a device (/dev/input/uinput), but it doesn't exist, so the program bails out. What can I do?03:17
slavikcyphase: I see ... can you open the box and hold the card (push it in) to the mobo?03:17
trappistInner|RE: ogg2mp303:17
soundraycpl-tnt900: yeah03:17
Warbonikosgr: The files are checked, to make sure they are still there and stuff like that. If you are asked any questions when you install a package (some ask whether you want them to start on boot, X asks loads about resolutions and stuff) then you can change your answers03:17
immoloInner|RE, or for gui people audacity03:17
slaviksoundray: you can symlink that to another device?03:17
Inner|REaudacity never works for me..03:18
Inner|REsays my i/o settings are invalid..03:18
Inner|REbut i cant figure it out03:18
immoloreally, I must be lucky03:18
nikosgrso in order to install xfce what must i do?03:18
Warboslavik: Maybe to /dev/null03:18
slaviknikosgr: apt-get install xfce4 :)03:18
soundrayslavik: I think the device as such doesn't exist. IMO udev should create it, but it doesn't.03:18
slavikWarbo: or a device that corresponds to the uinput device :)03:18
domsyes i hav installed the libpq4 then when my executable file which enrollment system programm an made by delphi in windows, i try to install it in ubuntu box using crossover but that problem is libpq.so library error in windows that was libpq.dll03:18
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teletubbie!azureus03:18
ubotuhmm... azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo03:18
Inner|REis ogg2mp3 in a certain reposititory, it couldnt find it?03:18
domsyes i hav installed the libpq4 then when my executable file which enrollment system programm an made by delphi in windows, i try to install it in ubuntu box using crossover but that problem is libpq.so library error in windows that was libpq.dll03:18
_Dez!restricted03:19
ubotuit has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats03:19
chuckypdoms, please stop spamming03:19
nikosgrslavik thats what i did and got thsi error03:19
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slavikdoms: you need the dll then to be in the same dir as the program03:19
nikosgrPackage xfce4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.03:19
nikosgrThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or03:19
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cyphaseslavik, doesn't do anything03:20
cyphasemaybe i just need to clean the dust out..03:20
domsyes03:20
animatohello, is there a way to create a shortcut that'll restart my machine?03:20
cyphasemight be slowing the fan03:20
cyphasei don't know03:20
slavikdoms: that happens when you try to install or to run the program?03:20
joyriderHey, I have a Acer Travelmate Tablet PC, and I need some help for the WACOM stylus to function :)03:20
Warbonikosgr: If you use Synaptic or aptitude then you can get the right one. You are trying to install a package that doesn't exist03:20
slavikcyphase: maybe that, too03:20
domsthats it the libpq.so03:20
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slaviknikosgr: instead of xfce4, install 'xubuntu-desktop'03:20
nikosgrxfce4 does nto exist?03:20
kkathmanxfce4-desktop03:21
slaviknikosgr: use xubuntu-desktop03:21
kkathmanno03:21
Warbonikosgr: You need the right package name, obviously xfce4 is not the right name.03:21
kkathmanwell depending on what release you are on03:21
kkathmanhehe03:21
kkathmanone of those03:21
slavikdoesn't matter03:21
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slavikxubuntu-desktop is what you need03:21
domsmy programm ask for a username and password03:21
nikosgrok ill try However the following packages replace it:03:21
nikosgr  xfce4-panel03:21
nikosgrE: Package xfce4 has no installation candidate03:21
domswhat do nid03:21
kkathmanin breezy and before xubuntu-desktop, dapper its xfce4-desktop03:21
slavikit will install everything needed for xfce403:22
nikosgrmaybe i need  xfce4-panel instead?03:22
Warbonikosgr: The panel does not replace the desktop :)03:22
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slavikkkathman: I am on dapper03:22
kkathmanthen its xfce4-desktop03:22
nikosgrthis is what apt-get told me when it couldt find xfce403:22
domsdynamic library libpq.so not foung03:22
darkarmys jacy Polacy?03:22
slavikkkathman: no it isn't03:22
soundraynikosgr: I think you should install xubuntu-desktop03:22
nikosgrok then ill try apt-get install  xubuntu-desktop03:22
kkathmansigh03:22
slavikunless you want to say that apt is wrong03:22
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slaviknikosgr: don't forget sudo03:23
GNAMwhen unification of ubuntu-xubuntu-kubuntu? :P03:23
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iggehello03:23
kkathmantry typing apt-cache search xfce and see what you get then03:23
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nikosgrslavik :ioam logged inas root :)03:23
domsdo i nid to install delphi for linux03:23
slavikGNAM: xubuntu and kubuntu are spinoffs03:23
Warbonikosgr: That is just because there is a package that depends on xfce4, but that doesn't exist. Now that dependency has changed to xfce4-panel. It is a fancy way of saying the package doesn't have that name03:23
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slaviknikosgr: not a good idea03:23
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GNAMyes, slavik03:23
iggeany program I can use to open Stuff It archives? (.sit)03:23
slavikigge: file roller should open them03:23
kkathmanxfce4-desktop - Desktop manager for the XFce Desktop Environment03:23
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nikosgri see03:24
nikosgrNeed to get 34.5MB of archives.03:24
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WarboGNAM: How can they unify when Ubuntu fits one one CD? I would rather have 3 CDs of different desktops than one with 3 desktops but no OpenOffice and stuff03:24
nikosgrwoow! xfce4 is cool, very small03:24
iggeslavik: nope... it can't...03:24
teletubbiewhat does apt-get -f install do?03:24
slavikyes03:24
slavikigge: huh?03:24
waylandbillthat's why it's colesterol free. :-)03:24
soundrayteletubbie: fix missing packages03:24
jadijadimy laptop hangs on boot (while mounting root file system) it seems it is becaue of my sata hda :( how can I add SATA support to my Ubuntu ?03:24
nikosgri just also downlaoded vidalia03:24
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Warboteletubbie: If fixes any "broken" dependencies by installing what is needed, and if that cannot be done it removes the broken packages03:24
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nikosgryou know tor's frontend03:25
nikosgrbut its in tar.gz03:25
nikosgrcan you helpe me unpack and install this plz?03:25
iggeslavik: it says "Archive type not supported"03:25
waylandbillforget the 3cds... need it all on a nice DVD. :-)03:25
umarmungigge: i use unstuff for it, but afaik it's not in the repositories03:25
slavikI see, igge search synaptic for stuff it as description03:25
teletubbieI have problems installing azureus on dapper03:25
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slavikDescription: Xubuntu desktop system This package depends on all of the packages in the Xubuntu desktop system03:26
Warbonikosgr: "tar -xzf filename.tar.gz" "cd newdirectory" "./configure" "make" "sudo checkinstall -y"03:26
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iggeumarmung: aha... where can I get it?03:26
slavikPackage: xubuntu-desktop03:26
Warbonikosgr: If you are on Breezy that is. On Dapper use "sudo make install" istead of checkinstall -y03:26
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slavikWarbo: why?03:26
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slavikno checkinstall on dapper?03:27
astro9040hello03:27
nikosgryes iam on dapper drake :)03:27
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umarmungigge: i think i download it from the stuffit homepage03:27
Warboslavik: checkinstall is broken on Dapper03:27
nikosgriam ali ttle fristrated though03:27
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astro9040how do i get totem to play my movies03:27
nikosgrsynaptic doesn find for me alot of pchages03:27
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nikosgrnot Tor, nbot vidalia, not irrsi03:27
teletubbieany one got azureus installed on dapper?03:27
slavikWarbo: I have 1.6 installed03:27
slavikalthough it did come from the devs03:27
teletubbie!azureus dapper03:27
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, teletubbie03:27
nikosgrwhy it doens lcoate them and i ahve to visit the sites instead?03:27
soundray!tell nikosgr about easysource03:27
nikosgrso i can get the sources?03:27
slavik!easysource03:28
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic03:28
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Warboslavik: I tried it a few times on a few tarballs, but got an error. Someone in here said it segfaults when moving files or something03:28
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nikosgri prefer installking through synaptic03:28
iggeumarmung: is it a free version? (just found a trial version there)03:28
slavikWarbo: did yours come from the repos?03:28
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nikosgrrather than downloading and configuring tar.gz03:28
joyriderwhat's the URL for the newbieguide ??03:28
slavik!newbie03:29
ubotuslavik: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:29
umarmungigge: well i have a free version. but i downloaded it more than a year ago, so maybe they changed it now03:29
slavik!new03:29
ubotuslavik: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:29
Warbonikosgr: Good on you. So many people start downloading crap from websites then asking "how do I install this program, which I haven't noticed is in the repos?"03:29
slavikyes03:29
iggeumarmung: aha..03:29
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nikosgryes synaptic willt ake care of all dependencie doent it?03:29
apokryphosyes03:29
umarmungigge: i just checked the version, it's 5.2.x from 2001 :P03:29
Cdo i need a net connection to aptget install build-essiential?03:30
Warbonikosgr: That's right. Also you can be pretty sure it will work on Ubuntu, and it will keep itself updated03:30
nikosgryes03:30
nikosgrbecause vidalia eben i triued to confiure it03:30
Inner|REwhat do i need to put m3u on an ipod using gtkpod03:30
kingspawnC: yes indeed.03:30
Coh03:30
WarboC: If it isn't working it may be that you aren't typing apt-get (not aptget), but I think you do03:30
nikosgrit qwouils laso need soem qt libray i dotn knwo about03:30
nikosgrand tor03:31
nikosgrbut hwo cna i update my sourc elist03:31
nikosgri must find a greek repository server03:31
nikosgrthat why ic an find packages right?03:31
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slaviknikosgr: apt-get update03:31
astro9040hey does anyone know how do i get totem to play my movies03:31
slaviknikosgr: did you enable universe and multiverse?03:31
Cso how would i go about installing the build essentials on a computer that doesn't have a net connection?03:31
kingspawn!restrictedformates03:31
Cbeing the case03:31
ubotukingspawn: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:31
nikosgrno slavik03:31
kingspawn!restrictedformats03:31
ubotusomebody said restrictedformats was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats03:31
nikosgri just installed ubuntu03:31
kingspawnastro9040: ^^^03:31
slaviknikosgr: you should03:31
nikosgri didn almost configured anything03:32
iggeumarmung: the one they have for download is 5.20 as well.. :)03:32
Warbonikosgr: Your repositories can be from anywhere, but the closer they are the faster they download. BTW QT is the buttons and stuff that KDE uses03:32
slavikC: you can download the deb files and transfer them via CD or USB driver03:32
Ccan i install the build essential on another box then copy it?03:32
Cslavik, awesome!03:32
Cwhere are they stored?03:32
slavikC: that, too ... but there is a way to only download the packages03:32
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kingspawnC: Yes. everything you install gets copied to /var/cache/apt03:32
WarboC: Make sure you copy the .deb files (they will be in /var/cache/apt/archives) and not the files they create!03:32
enzohi all03:32
slavikC: In synaptic, right before hitting OK, you can check the box to only download the stuff03:32
Ck03:32
Ck03:33
nikosgrum please can you tell em how i can update my sources list?03:33
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enzoI need help with external usb case w/Hard Disk.. not being able to see it when I plug it in...03:33
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slaviknikosgr: see !repos03:33
nikosgr!repos03:33
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource03:33
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slavikenzo: what does dmesg say? (run dmesg before plugging in the drive and then after). Use pastebin.03:34
slavik!pastebin03:34
ubotu[pastebin]  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126903:34
Warbonikosgr: you can do it in Synaptic (Settings>Respositories) or change it with an editor (as super user) like "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"03:34
astro9040kingspawn, ?03:34
kingspawnastro9040: read what ubotu said right before i ^^^ you03:34
nikosgrWarbo: thank you that is much easier03:34
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slavikToma-: !!!!!!! :D03:34
bastijnalloa. Is here somebody who can help me with MP3 decoders for ubuntu 6.06 (beta)??03:34
enzodmesg speaks of FAt (the disk is ext3.. wanting to get my samba conf back... LOL... changed disks) lemme get that dmesg again..03:34
slavikToma-: I applied to Epic ... they rejected me :(03:35
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Warboubotu: tell bastijn about mp303:35
Toma-:(03:35
mynameisdeletedhow do I fix gg: "[drm]  drmSetBusid failed (7, PCI:1:0:0), Permission denied?"?03:35
slavikyes ... so UT2k7 is going to suck03:35
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enzo[4296132.628000]  usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5[4296132.749000]  usb 2-2: not running at top speed; connect to a high speed hub03:35
enzo[4296132.760000]  scsi5 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices03:35
enzo[4296132.760000]  usb-storage: device found at 503:35
enzo[4296132.760000]  usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning03:35
enzo[4296139.342000]    Vendor: SAMSUNG   Model: SV1022D           Rev:  0 003:35
enzo[4296139.342000]    Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 0003:36
enzo[4296139.347000]  SCSI device sda: 19931184 512-byte hdwr sectors (10205 MB)03:36
enzo[4296139.347000]  sda: assuming drive cache: write through03:36
slavikWarbo: how do I get ubotu to tell the person but not to send me anything03:36
bastijn Package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg has no installation candidate03:36
enzo[4296139.352000]  SCSI device sda: 19931184 512-byte hdwr sectors (10205 MB)03:36
enzo[4296139.352000]  sda: assuming drive cache: write through03:36
Warboenzo: pastebin.com !!!03:36
enzo[4296139.352000]   sda: sda1 sda203:36
DBOenzo, please dont paste in here03:36
slavikenzo: please use pastebin ...03:36
enzo[4296139.401000]  sd 5:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda03:36
enzo[4296139.401000]  sd 5:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 003:36
Frogzoobad enzo:03:36
enzo[4296139.403000]  usb-storage: device scan complete03:36
enzo[4296140.824000]  FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!03:36
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enzo[4296140.834000]  FAT: Filesystem panic (dev sda1)03:36
Toma-!ops03:36
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee03:36
enzo[4296140.834000]      fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 0)03:36
enzo[4296140.834000]      File system has been set read-only03:36
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enzo[4296143.268000]  FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!03:36
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Warboslavik: I don't know. I'm suprised that worked (I've only done it once before!)03:36
slavikrofl03:36
bastijnubotu, can you help me with this?       Package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg has no installation candidate03:36
ubotubastijn: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about03:36
Toma-slavik: applied anywhere else?03:36
bastijnokee :(03:37
_jasonbastijn: are you using dapper?03:37
Toma-bastijn: ubotu is a bot03:37
slavikno :(03:37
bastijnyes03:37
_jasonbastijn: #ubuntu+1 for dapper please03:37
bastijnoh :p03:37
Frogzoo!ubotu, are you a bot?03:37
ubotuFrogzoo: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:37
slavik!ubotu03:37
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.03:37
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Warbobastijn: Dapper groups the codecs and stuff into good, bad and ugly, not individually like 0.803:37
bastijnoh03:37
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bastijni got my text from the wiki03:38
DBOhey Frogzoo, you wanna take a shot at an error in my kernel log that has me stumped (and got me a big ass log)03:38
bastijni will try that one then :D03:38
DBOdoh, language on me, sorry03:38
Toma-ubotu: tell DBO about pastebin03:38
enzoLOL... pastebin.com.... ok clear...03:38
slavikDBO: go to the bathroom more often = less logs :P03:38
slavikenzo: you didn't finish reading what I said :(03:38
FrogzooDBO: pastebin & I'll take a look03:38
Warboslavik: More logs, smaller logs03:39
slavik;)03:39
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Frogzoo!tell enzo about pastebin03:39
slavikhow do I get ubuntu to use a windowsxp attached printer?03:39
slavikprinter is set for sharing03:39
enzoyeah.. pls tell me bout pastebin.. I just pasted in there.. I send & it figures everything out ??03:39
Warboslavik: Samba isn't it? Don't ask me any more, as I've never tried it03:40
enzoSamba is good !03:40
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slavikWarbo: I need help configuring samba :P03:40
Frogzooenzo: you past to pastebin, & post the url back here03:40
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DBOhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1292403:40
Warboenzo: Put it in, then copy the URL from the address bar into here, so we can look at it03:40
enzolol... lots of howtos on samba out there03:40
slavikenzo, you paste text there and then click send or submit, then give us the url of the resulting page03:40
nikosgris there a way to run a jpg image from console line?03:40
DBOFrogzoo, take that and multiply by a couple orders of 20003:40
enzook03:40
slaviknikosgr: run or view?03:40
nikosgrsorry i meant view03:40
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enzohere 'tis03:41
enzohttp://pastebin.com/68293603:41
Warbonikosgr: Type your favourite viewer, then the filename. So: "eog /home/me/mypic"03:41
Toma-DBO: bad sectors? tried using fsck?03:41
slavikenzo: you have seen the light ;)03:41
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LinuxJonesslavik: search the wiki there are howto's on there03:41
DBOToma-, I dont even have an hda, all my drives are SATA which means SCSI interface which means sda03:41
nikosgrWarbo: i dotn ahve a favourote viewer up until now03:41
domswere i can download kylix for ubuntu03:41
eneriedsorry, i wasn't here, then i don't know if you answered me03:41
nikosgrcaus ei dont kn ow eben one! :)03:42
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domswere i can download kylix for ubuntu03:42
FrogzooDBO: gut feel is disk's going bad - install smartmontools & test disk & make backups03:42
DBOToma-, but I did think of that, and I did fsck em, they are quite clean03:42
eneriedwich is better? ext2 or ext3 file system?03:42
LinuxJonesdoms: kylix has been discontinued hasn't it ?03:42
nikosgrill try eog as you say03:42
slavikeneried: ext303:42
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domswhy03:42
eneriedLinuxJones, yep, discontinued, use KDevelop, and QT or glade03:42
domswhy discontinued03:42
DBOFrogzoo, thats what I thought, so I gave the disks a serious going over, both come up 100% healthy in everything I throw at them03:42
LinuxJonesdoms: because there was no interest in it03:42
FrogzooDBO: well if you don't have an hda, I guess that's different... - wierd03:42
Toma-DBO: could be udev or hal trying to make them hda type devices. and from that it will obviously think its bad if its an SATA drive. gmm03:42
domsare you sure03:42
eneriedslavik, and can i access  that partition from my windows OS?03:43
slavikenzo: it doesn't show the drive in /media ?03:43
Warbonikosgr: I used to prefer Kuickshow (from KDE) even though I use GNOME just because it has no control buttons, just the image, and you can choose the next and previous pics in a folder with the mouse wheel. I now like the GNOME image viewer as it has forward, back buttons (but still an ugly interface. I just like the image)03:43
slavikeneried: not natively03:43
LinuxJonesdoms: there are tons of usefull dev tools for Linux development the most popular for Ubuntu is Python + pyGTK.03:43
enerieddoms, we're sure, look at imprise or borland, they developed kylix in the past03:43
toMte83ahmm.. anyone here using Evelutions ?03:43
slavikwindowsxp only know ntfs and fat/3203:43
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eneriedslavik, i have the ifs drives extension, but it seems that works better with ext2... and i dont know if ext2 is good enough03:44
slavikeneried: I read about drivers being available03:44
joyriderIs there a init command for Standby ?03:44
nikosgrWarbo: yes, eog is fine03:44
enzoslavik. well I do see it but can't open it..03:44
eneriedslavik, do you know a good driver to access ext3?03:44
slavikeneried: no, sorry03:44
slavikenzo: did you try to go into it?03:45
eneriedslavik, no prob, thanks ;)03:45
enzosays : mount: /dev/sda1: ne peut lire le super bloc03:45
enzoerreur: ne peut pas excuter pmoun03:45
DBOFrogzoo, Toma-, the other odd aspect is these errors are concentrated to a specific timespan, are NOT ongoing anymore, and seem somehow linked to specific types of network traffic03:45
slavikeverything in /media is a directory03:45
dt-oz-gcHi all. Does anyone else get phantom mouse clicks occurring quite often? Any solutions?03:45
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enzooh yeah...03:45
enerieddoes anybody know a good driver|extension to acces ext3 partitions from my windows XP?03:45
slavikenzo: translate it into english please03:45
enzobut to no avaik03:45
enzoavail *03:45
Toma-DBO: network traffic??????03:45
enzo/dev/sda1 : cant read super blac03:45
enzoCan't execute pmount03:46
slavikhmm03:46
eneriedT_T03:46
DBOToma-, your guess is as good as mine on that one.  But I kid you not, these errors showed up when I was testing a router's weakness to ARP poisoning03:46
LinuxJonesdoms: there is also boa-constructor which is modeled after borland Delphi but is designed to work with wxPython.03:46
enzocan we go pv on this topic?03:46
DBO(our Cisco guy gets to keep his job it seems)03:46
slavikDBO, Toma-, any guess on the usb drive issue?03:46
WarboI get that error with pmount. I always mount from the command line (automounting stuff is fine, just not floppies and stuff which are manual)03:46
slavikenzo: no, others might be able to help03:46
enzook..03:46
DBOslavik, what issue?  Im sorry I wasnt doing yours...  but Im willing to help03:47
Toma-DBO: hotplug. try grepping for something about hda and hotplug...03:47
enerieddoms: try glade and gtk+, or KDevelop and QT03:47
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slavikenzo is trying to get a usb hard drive to work03:47
domsqt03:47
Toma-slavik: im not really reading. about to goto bed03:47
slaviksomething with pmount gives him errors03:47
DBOToma-, no hotplug on this system03:47
domswere i can download qt for gnome03:47
apheszeneried: try this app.. http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm03:47
slavikdoms: in the repos03:47
Toma-DBO: so modules are getting loaded by themselves?03:47
enzoand dmesg talks about fat.. this disk is ext303:47
eneriedthanks :)03:47
enerieddoms: add it from repositories03:48
DBOToma-, no need for it really03:48
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domsi mean the Qt GUI environment03:48
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DBOactually wait... we just redid this box, it may still have hotplug03:48
LinuxJonesdoms: you might also want to look at wxglade (cross platform development using WxPython) as well.03:48
ToranI'm having problems building the latest version of Amarok, could someone please have a look? http://pastebin.ca/raw/5149203:48
nikosgrguys i cant configure m y source list03:48
nikosgralthough ime reading the manul on how to do it through synaptric03:48
domswxglade03:49
domswhat site03:49
Warbodoms: QT GUI environment? KDE? You can get various theme-applying things if that is what you mean03:49
nikosgrA list of repositories is shown. Click the Settings button at the bottom and tick Show disabled software sources. Then click the Close button.03:49
Toma-DBO: yeh, my guess is something like udev, hal, or hotplug are loading this drive but dont recognise it as SATA...03:49
domsnot gnome03:49
enzoI did a google search, & found nothing so I dropped in here...03:49
enerieddoms: um, go directly to QT homepage, the developers are... Trolltech03:49
domsi used gnome now03:49
Toma-pesky automation.03:49
LinuxJonesdoms>> http://wxglade.sourceforge.net/03:49
nikosgrthe re ius no show disabled software source03:49
sk8azplease, can anyone help me with skype: i tried debian version - it said somethin' about archive unreadable, i tried another version, but it still does not work, can anyone tell me how to install skype or what am i doing wrong03:49
eneriedi've to go, thanks guys ;)03:49
domsyes i know trolltech03:49
domsthats can be found n the Qt help site03:49
enerieddoms: this is the place for QT,but i think there's enough QT packages on ubuntu repositories...03:50
ToranI'm having problems building the latest version of Amarok, could someone please have a look? http://pastebin.ca/raw/5149203:50
slavikenzo: hold on03:50
DBOToma-, you might be right, but the network traffic link doesnt make sense, but here it is, I can reproduce it with ettercap...03:50
domsyes there are03:50
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domshow can i run it in gnome environment03:50
enzoholding on... tightly.. :)03:50
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nikosgris there an easy way please to insall a server to sources list?03:51
Warbonikosgr: In Synaptic Settings>Repositories>Add>Custom03:51
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domscan i download and install wxglade debian package for (sarge) in my ubuntu box03:51
Toma-DBO: probably something to do withy the inner workings of module alias's and the automations. File a bug if you can find the root of this evil. However, i gtg :(03:52
LinuxJonesdoms: apt-get install wxglade03:52
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nikosgrwarbo yes03:52
nikosgrEnter the complete APT line of the channel that you want to add03:52
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nikosgri gues tha manul was old on this03:52
jitais there a kernel customized for athlon in ubuntu repo?03:52
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LinuxJonesdoms: why would you want Debian sarge packages on Ubuntu ?03:53
slavikenzo: 'sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /media/usbdrive'03:53
Jimmey__jita, if it's 64 bit then yeah...If it's a 32 bit, I don't know.03:53
slavikenzo: try that03:53
Warbonikosgr: That will be something like "deb http://www.thesite.org distro1 distro2 distro3"03:53
sk8azplease, can anyone help me with skype: i tried debian version - it said somethin' about archive unreadable, i tried another version, but it still does not work, can anyone tell me how to install skype or what am i doing wrong03:53
enzowill do that.. brb03:53
DBOToma-, thanks for the help on tracking this down, I nearly had a heart attack looking at my logs this morning03:53
WarboBTW, I made that link up03:53
jitaJimmey__: its 32 :P03:53
Jimmey__slavik, yafray only comes as a sarge package..That's one I needed03:53
nikosgrWarbo: since iam greek i must find a greek server03:53
Jimmey__jita, maybe a 686 kernel, or something03:53
domsis their a repo for wxglade for ubuntu03:53
slavikwhat's yafray?03:53
domsis their a repo for wxglade for ubuntu03:53
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Jimmey__slavik, blender plugin03:53
Warbonikosgr: Try Google, search for "greek ubuntu repository"03:53
LinuxJonessk8az: there was a howto in the ubuntu forums have a peek there03:54
slavikdoms: have you enabled universe and multiverse?03:54
slavikJimmey__: what's it do?03:54
domsyes i hav03:54
LinuxJonesdoms: yes you must enable the universe repository03:54
nikosgrWarbo: thank you , many thanks03:54
domsmy repo is change03:54
jitaJimmey__: there is 686 kernel?03:54
domsyes its enable03:54
Jimmey__slavik, http://jimmey.ath.cx/content/BASEPROF1Z0001.png03:54
nikosgrWarbo: youa re very helpfull to me :)03:54
sk8azLinuxJones: thx, i`ll take a look there03:54
Warbonikosgr: no problem03:54
Jimmey__jita, yeah, it's called "linux-686"03:54
DBOdoes anyone know of a GOOD parametric modeller for linux?  something similar to CATIA03:54
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Warbonikosgr: (I'm bored)03:54
Jimmey__jita, try uname -a to see which kernel would best suit, maybe?03:55
deeps_Hi everyone03:55
Jimmey__deeps_, hey03:55
Toma-DBO: i can imagine :D try giving dapper live cd a spin, and see if its fixed. otherwise, get onto it in the bug lists, coz this is really something that could send bells ringing in system admins on server and such!03:55
enzook... that works.. doesnt show up on desktop, but got it in file system in /media... (the usbdrive folder didn't exist, so I did it fast & dirty...03:55
LinuxJonesdeeps_: welcome03:55
jitaJimmey__: one more thing, is there 2.6.16 kernel in repo ?03:55
nikosgrWarbo: who isnt? it happens to me all the time :)03:55
slavikJimmey__: nice picture ... new house?03:55
domswhat in breezy badge updates or binary03:55
Toma-cya all!03:55
deeps_I need some help regarding Azureus03:55
slavikjita: no03:55
deeps_can anyone help me?03:55
Jimmey__slavik, I made that with Yafray03:55
domswer i can add the univers repo03:55
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domsto install wxglade03:55
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slavikJimmey__: so yafray is a camera? :P03:55
enzoGoog, I can now get back all the breezy configs files.. they ARE compatible with dapper ??03:56
DBOToma-, I can't get this specific setup for testing again till next friday, but I will.  I need a shower and new pants now03:56
deeps_LinuxJones,  can u help me??03:56
LinuxJonesdoms: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list03:56
Jimmey__slavik, not quite =-P03:56
slavikenzo: so that mount thing worked?03:56
LinuxJonesdeeps_: if I can what's up ?03:56
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slavikJimmey__: nice modeling job though ... I wish I was as good03:56
enzoyep.. i can now access my old ubuntu disk...03:56
slavik:D03:56
deeps_I am getting some NAT error03:56
enzowent from breezy to dapper03:56
deeps_what can i do now?03:56
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domsthen03:56
jimcooncat!tell doms about universe03:56
Jimmey__slavik, I've been told that the sofa looks like a brick - All the models are basically cubes.03:56
domswhat should i add03:56
slavikenzo: not all the config files would work03:56
enzohowever, I'd like to know why It doesn't automount..03:57
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enzohmm03:57
slavikJimmey__: sofa looks "new"03:57
LinuxJonesdeeps_: your sharing your internet connection but are having random troubles with connections ?03:57
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Jimmey__deeps_, try configuring your router?03:57
ToranI'm having problems building the latest version of Amarok, could someone please have a look? http://pastebin.ca/raw/5149203:57
enzowell... how bout passwd.. I've got 20 users on this server03:57
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keleushaving trouble with printing...03:57
deeps_i am able to download using it03:57
enzowould like to get passwd file03:57
slavikenzo: those should be compatible03:57
deeps_but, am getting yellow colored smiley03:57
enzo& get the right users to right home owner..03:57
keleustrying to print to a windows ME machine. Cups is saying something about backend failing03:57
deeps_so, unable to download at higher speeds03:58
enzohere's the setup03:58
deeps_what can i do now?03:58
slavikenzo: things like hotplug aren't ... since there is no hotplug in dapper :D03:58
enzoI've got a 10 gig disk for OS03:58
enzoand 200 gig disk for home03:58
Jimmey__deeps_, using firefox? Bit-torrent?03:58
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enzowhen I do an install03:58
keleusfor that matter i couldnt print directly, the jobs would just stop every time i tried to start them03:58
LinuxJonesdeeps_: you mean using downloading bittorrent files or other p2p apps ?03:58
enzoI always keep the last 10 gig disk for config files03:58
deeps_i am using Bittorrent03:58
deeps_yeah linuxjones, am dl bt files03:59
keleusanyone know how to convert a .ps file to a .pdf?03:59
jitaif i want to use 2.6.15 kernel, do i need to get it from daper repo?03:59
deeps_AZUREUS03:59
slavikenzo: you are going beyond me :(03:59
LinuxJonesdeeps_: you need to configure your firewall to allow a few ports for bittorrent03:59
Jimmey__deeps_, you're going to have to configure your router, and firewall. For the router, try www.portforward.com. For the firewall, try Firestarter03:59
enzothat worked kool when I went from mandrake to fedora.. but fedora to ubuntu, well, I had to redo all..03:59
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slavikkeleus: look for ps2pdf ... there should be something available03:59
snoopyHi, there!03:59
deeps_i disabled the firewall03:59
enzolol03:59
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enzooh.. well03:59
enzo:/03:59
Jimmey__snoopy, Hey03:59
nikosgrWarbo: ic an find one :(03:59
nikosgri cant03:59
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Frogzookeleus: ps2pdf03:59
Warbojita: I would only do that if you upgrade EVERYTHING to Dapper03:59
deeps_i have been using firestarter03:59
enzoThank you for the strait mount :))03:59
slavikenzo: the passwd should be transferable I think ... but I won't vouvh for that03:59
deeps_right now, i disabled it..03:59
toMte83aanyone knows about a nice calendar?? for Ubuntu / Linux... ?03:59
snoopyi wanna give dapper a try, but i can't install with network as it won't find my usbnet card04:00
deeps_still am getting the same problem04:00
slaviknp04:00
jitaWarbo: otherwise kee on using 2.6.12?04:00
jitakee/keep04:00
Jimmey__deeps_, that wont disable the firewall. Configure firestarter by adding a policy to let the required port be open.04:00
LinuxJonesdeeps_: ok you need to allow these ports access >> 6881-688904:00
slaviktoMte83a: like apple's ical?04:00
Warbonikosgr: Does it really have to be greek? The packages are the same, just set your locale to greek and they will all be in greek04:00
slavikI think evolution has a calender thing04:00
deeps_yeah.. i did it n tried04:00
enzoI wonder if passwd is the only file ?.. I'm also thinkg about transfering the samba folder straight over..04:00
jarleI have moved my /lib dir to another partition so now I have booted a LiveCD to setup a symlink to the new partition. Should the symlink point to where the dir is located NOW or should it point to where is is mounted upon booting Ubuntu_04:00
deeps_after all such efforts, i now remain clueless04:00
LinuxJonesdeeps_: did you re-start firestarter ?04:00
slavikenzo: program configs should tansfer over04:00
Jimmey__deeps_, not just firestarter, but your router aswell04:00
enzoI'm afraid of having probs with pre-existing home directories not having the right user numbers..04:01
keleusi'm getting this on the printer's status page. "/usr/lib/cups/backend/smb failed"04:01
nikosgrwarbo: no they dotn have to be in greek04:01
toMte83aslavik dont heard of that one either, just something to whrite some important happenings and dates in...04:01
Jimmey__jarie, the mount point, I think04:01
enzoor group numbers04:01
slavikenzo: system configs too, you just have to make sure what is not in dapper that was in breezy04:01
deeps_k.. i will try now04:01
nikosgrbut i dotn even know of a foreign one04:01
slaviktoMte83a: try evolution, I think it has a calendar program04:01
LinuxJonesdeeps_: as Jimmey__ points out if your behind a router you will have to do it there as well via your webbrowser configuration utility.04:01
enzoAnd I still have this USB problem not wanting to work on hardisks04:01
enzobut I'm gonna take this step by step..04:01
Warbonikosgr: Just use another server from Europe. Ubuntu actually chooses the closest one to you (well, it set mine to UK) during install04:01
deeps_sorry guys.. am dumb at all these things..04:02
enzoLeeme try to x-fer the config files & passwd.04:02
slavikenzo: add the line to fstab ... read up on specifics though04:02
Jimmey__deeps_, usually available at the same address as your default gateway ( mine's 192.168.1.1 )04:02
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nikosgrWarbo: can you name one please?04:02
Jimmey__deeps_, I'll talk you through, if you want.04:02
deeps_k sure04:02
deeps_:)04:02
enzowill do that, as long as I need this disk.. prob is that I have other sdisks, they're fat32...04:02
slavikdeeps_: there is no dumb in linux ... there is unknowing ... dumb is when you don't want to learn :P04:02
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LinuxJonesdeeps_: your not dumb, it's just something new :)04:02
Jimmey__slavik, true04:02
enzoI use external disk to backup home directory.. just in case..04:03
nikosgrill try deb http://ftp.ntua.gr dapper main04:03
slavikand Jimmey__ is dumb :P04:03
nikosgrto se if that works04:03
Warbonikosgr: Here is my dapper line in my sources.list "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse"04:03
whaley_workslavik speaks the truth04:03
deeps_thanks guys04:03
deeps_:)04:03
toMte83aslavik yeah, Evolution works kinda good..04:03
enzoaveryone here uses the server as backup.. if they're disks fail, they get it all back04:03
slavikthen elect me as president04:03
nikosgrwarbo i must add this to the field in custom in synaptic?04:03
Jimmey__slavik, thanks =-S XoD04:03
slavikenzo: offsite tape backups ;)04:03
enzoand I keep a regular backup on external disk... just in case a fire breaks out.. ya never know...04:03
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whaley_workslavik: vote has been cast for '0804:03
whaley_work:)04:03
cahill_johnWARBO u there04:03
slavikJimmey__: any time ;)04:04
Warbonikosgr: That will give you standard Dapper, as well as Dapper Universe and Dapper Multiverse. If you put it in the custom field04:04
cahill_johni have another problem04:04
slavikwhaley_work: only I am not US born :(04:04
cahill_johnWARBO ?04:04
Jimmey__slavik, neither Arnold Schawrtzerthingy04:04
nikosgri will then :)04:04
Warbocahill_john: Hello. (Why are you so impatient :))04:04
enzoBut, my ext usb disks just don't get accepted... my lil usb flashdisks work fine04:04
cahill_johni thot u werent there04:04
snoopyi wanna give dapper a try, but i can't install with network as it won't find my usbnet card04:04
enzobutr the harddisks in usb case, nope..04:04
slavikwell, we will violently overthrow the gov't ... by running naked across the white house lawn :D04:04
snoopyups04:04
keleusq04:04
cahill_johnyeah i need to ask u how to configure my DNS server04:04
snoopysorry for the repost... wrong keys04:04
Warbocahill_john: Sorry. I have ABSOLUTLEY no idea about DNS04:05
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cahill_johnboth the preferred and the alternate04:05
slavikenzo: it might be something with the controller (ATA to USB translator)04:05
cahill_johnok anyone in there configuring DNS04:05
Jimmey__cahill_john, are you using a router?04:05
cahill_johnno04:05
cahill_johnbut i need to config my DNS04:05
slavikcahill_john: you are setting up your own DNS server? or you need one?04:05
cahill_johnlemme google04:05
Jimmey__Okay, do you happen to have a Windows machine in your house, or access to one, that has access to the internet?04:05
slavikahh04:05
cahill_johnyeah04:05
cahill_johnlinux is on the same system04:06
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LinuxJonescahill_john: best to hit google for a dns howto there are tons of them04:06
cahill_johnok thanx04:06
Jimmey__cahill_john, in a command prompt in Windows, type ipconfig/all04:06
Jimmey__It will tell you both04:06
slavikbtw, network manager is freaking awesome04:06
nikosgrwarbo: cna you plz exaplin it?04:06
nikosgrthat line04:06
slavikubuntu lost 1 user, btw ...04:07
slavikmy friend could not get a hard drive working in ubuntu ... :(04:07
Jimmey__But could with other operating systems?04:07
slavikfor some reason his other drive was getting detected ...04:07
slavikthey are both on the same IDE channel, too04:08
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slavikand mandrake sees both ... weirdness04:08
nikosgrdamn, although i updates repositroies i still can\t fidn vidalia04:08
Jimmey__ubotu, tell Jimmey__ about thankyou04:08
Jimmey__Damn04:08
Warbonikosgr: OK. The deb" bit tells it to get regular packages (deb-src would get source code) the address tells it where to get them from. The dapper tells it the distribution, the main is the main ubuntu section, restricted is for non-free (not open source) stuff like nvidia drivers. universe tells it to add universe, the huge list of free packages which are not supported by Canonical and finally multiverse adds the list of no04:08
Jimmey__ubotu, tell Jimmey__ about thanks04:08
cahill_johni find all crap in google04:08
DBOslavik, sometimes you just have to go with whatever distro is best for your machine04:09
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cahill_johnisnt there anything about DNS in ur minds?04:09
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slavikDBO: no ... ubuntu is best!!!04:09
Jimmey__cahill_john, in an MS-DOS prompt, 'ipconfig/all' will tell you04:09
slavikhis other choice is gentoo04:09
whaley_workhmmm, this reminds me:  is there a list of laptops that are known to work very well with ubuntu?04:09
slavikcahill_john: you need a DNS server? or are you setting one up?04:09
apokryphoswhaley_work: /msg ubotu hardware04:10
whaley_workI'm in the market to buy a laptop, but don't want to be arsed with windows or a mac04:10
slavikwhaley_work: compaq v2000z I have worked pretty much out of the box04:10
whaley_workapokryphos: thanks :)04:10
Jimmey__whaley_work, mine's a Packard Bell Easynote R4, and it EVERYTHING works04:10
enzoI got a Asus laptipe, works wonderfully w/ubuntu04:10
whaley_workthanks guys :)04:10
enzo*laptop04:10
kkathmanwow Packard Bell is still making stuff?? hehe04:10
slavik!v2000z04:10
ubotumethinks v2000z is The followng wiki page has some information on fixing problems you might encounter with installing Breezy Badger on the Compaq Presario V2000Z. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/CompaqPresarioV2000Z04:10
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DBOwhaley_work, pretty much everything works, the widescreens take a bit extra configuration sometimes, but its not a deal breaker04:10
Frogzoowhaley_work: just be sure it's an nvid vid card, not ati04:10
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slavikFrogzoo: I resent that statement04:11
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whaley_workya, i have an nvida card on my desktop and it works well with every linux distro i've tried04:11
Frogzooslavik: too bad :p04:11
slavikFrogzoo: ati support is getting better and better04:11
whaley_worki've only heard horror storeis about ati's04:11
nikosgrWarbo: yes04:11
DBOslavik, that may be true, but its still not fantastic04:11
enzoanyone here know about pmout.allow in the etc folder???04:11
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Frogzooslavik: so it sux marginally less than it used to04:11
xerophytedoes anybody know why do i get this error ount: block device /dev/sda5 is write-protected, mounting read-only the fstab entry for that /dev/sda5 /       ext3    defaults 1 1 and when i  try to  mount -o remount  / does anybody know does that mount is mounting with read-onley04:11
slavikDBO: he told me horror stories of rpm and urpmi04:11
nikosgrdamn thsi xchat is not to what iam used too04:11
slavikFrogzoo: much less :P04:12
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slaviknikosgr: gaim :)04:12
nikosgrknoppix xhat is very differnt form this xchat04:12
ElazarI did a default install of Ubuntu 5.1 and I'm getting this error when I try to do a JAR install of JEdit: Exception in thread "main" java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit04:12
Jimmey__slavik, I was about to suggest the same04:12
nikosgrgaim is intant messaging04:12
nikosgriam talkign about chating04:12
Jimmey__nikosgr, I'm using Gaim04:12
Frogzooslavik: I have an ati on my lappie, worse luck04:12
nikosgrGaim?04:12
ElazarCan anyone suggest how to get around it?04:12
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nikosgryou talk to irc through gaim?04:12
nikosgr!!104:12
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nikosgr04:12
Warbonikosgr: I am using GAIM this very second to chat to you04:12
nikosgrwooow!04:12
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nikosgri didnt know Gaim can be used to chatting too!04:13
Warbonikosgr: That's 'cos my XChat crashes :(04:13
slavikDBO: urpmi broke itself when updating itself. and then there was rpm dependency hell (when he told me what it was ... I finally learned what horror it was)04:13
nikosgri though gaim was soemthign like MSN04:13
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enzoxerophye... fstab saying rw for sda 5 ?04:13
Frogzooslavik: to be fair, ati's 2d support is very good, but they're badly let down in the 3d department04:13
slaviknikosgr: gaim supports more chatting protocols than any other software04:13
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Warbonikosgr: GAIM connects to MSN, Yahoo!, AIM, Jabber (Google Talk) and others04:13
b08yhello, does some one get also a damaged icon themes after updateing yesterday? (dapper beta)04:13
DBOslavik, getting out of dependancy hell is easy... you get your install discs... =P04:13
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Frogzoob08y: -> #ubuntu+1 for dapper04:13
Jimmey__!dapper04:13
nikosgrwooow04:13
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)04:13
nikosgrthank you guiys04:13
slavikFrogzoo: I will agree that ati driver support for linux is crap ... their driver support for windows used to be terrible, too ...04:14
nikosgri ddin knew this atll04:14
slavikFrogzoo: remember?04:14
nikosgrxchat is very differnt that what iam sude to04:14
slavikFrogzoo: I have ati 200m on my lappy04:14
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nikosgrmaybe its because it is gnomes xhat and not kde04:14
cahill_johnPPL I FOUND NO RESULTS MATCHING MY REQUEST04:14
slaviknikosgr: xchat is a GUI, GUI requires you to poke (click) things and figure things out04:14
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waylandbillWhere do I make a suggestion for the Live CD Installer?04:14
NoUseElazar search synaptic for gtk and java, there are gtk bindings for java you probably need to install04:14
nikosgri like irssi as well04:14
enzoslavik.. seems that I should add mount lines to pmount for addition mounts.... from what I figure..04:14
Jimmey__cahill_john, I've told you twice what you could do to solve you problem04:14
cahill_johnANYONE04:14
slavikcahill_john: do you need a DNS server or are you setting one up?04:14
slavikenzo: would make sense ...04:15
NoUse!caps04:15
ubotuFYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.04:15
cahill_johni need to enter it for my connection to work04:15
nikosgrbut when i open console i see this bloody white backgreound and ti really gets oin my nrvers04:15
nikosgri want it black with greenforeground04:15
cahill_johnhow do i just enterit04:15
slavikahh, so you need a DNS server04:15
cahill_johnyeah04:15
nikosgrbut it sdeosnt hav an option04:15
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Warbowaylandbill: Maybe the #ubuntu-devel (I think it is called)04:15
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cahill_johnso slavik what do i do04:15
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slavikcahill_john: firstly: 'sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf'04:15
enzoguess I'll man pmount.. LOL !04:15
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slavikenzo: that's the spirit (/me knows nothing about pmount)04:16
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rane_how can i connect my linux computer to my windows comp?04:16
slavikcahill_john: that will bring up a text file in gedit04:16
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Jimmey__rane_, you'll need Samba04:16
DBOrane_, to share files?  samba04:16
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rane_what's that04:16
Jimmey__DBO, damn, I'm too quick..04:16
Warborane_: With a network card, or wireless. Either way use SAMBA (don't ask me though)04:16
cahill_johnok04:16
Jimmey__rane, lets you share files04:16
NoUse!tell rane about samba04:16
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cahill_johnhey SLAVIK04:17
slavikcahill_john: add this to the end, nameserver 64.105.124.15504:17
antisocial_borishow do i set up a network proxy?04:17
slavikeverything after the comma04:17
port7apt-get install squid04:17
cahill_johni have the dns server no.04:17
Warbobe right back04:17
Jimmey__cahill_john, why didn't you say!?04:17
cahill_johnit is 202.144.105.404:17
slavikwhat would make a good OS for a transparent proxy?04:17
nikosgrummm, ima looking at GAIM but i dotn see how can i connect to an irc networjk through it04:17
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slavikcahill_john: add that line ... that's a DNS server04:18
slaviknikosgr: add an account04:18
Jimmey__nikosgr, right click on the gaim icon, and click 'accounts'04:18
rane_what's samba04:18
slavikin account type, you select IRC04:18
slavik!samba04:18
ubotuwell, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html04:18
Jimmey__slavik, you're on fire, man04:18
DBOrane_, it lets you share files between windows and linux machines04:18
slavikyes04:18
nikosgra y yes!04:18
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nikosgrit support protocls04:18
slaviknikosgr: yup, what did I say? :P04:18
cahill_johnJimmey i have seen my DNS server no.s in windows and need to put them in ubuntu04:18
nikosgri must inform it that i need an irc network yes...04:18
nikosgrslavik: yeah ;)04:19
cahill_johnhow can i do that04:19
cppnewbienikosgr, #ubuntu-gr :D04:19
slavikcahill_john: change the IP address then if you want04:19
Jimmey__cahill_john, system, administration, networking, then click the DNS tab04:19
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enzoI think I got the answer..04:19
nikosgrthere is also ubuntu-gr??!04:19
nikosgrthat would be very nice!04:19
cahill_johnhow do i do it in the terminal04:19
cppnewbieyep04:19
slaviknikosgr: it fills the irc server with freenode, the network you are on right now04:19
cppnewbiethere is04:19
Jimmey__!gr04:19
ubotumethinks gr is #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia ellhnes xrhstes04:19
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Jimmey__cahill_john, why?04:19
cahill_johnbcoz my GUI is bugging me04:19
Jimmey__Ehrm04:19
cahill_johnbcoz i tried doing it04:19
Jimmey__Man ifconfig04:20
nikosgrslavik: yeah by itself!04:20
cahill_johnok then04:20
nikosgri diodn even had to type it!04:20
DBOcahill_john, ok, you can do it this way "sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf"04:20
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slavikcahill_john: you need to exit gedit first I think04:20
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DBOcahill_john, then add the line "nameserver <IPADDRESS>"04:20
slavikDBO: not vi04:20
slavikDBO: gedit ...04:20
enzoImportant  note  for  Debian:  The  permission  to  execute  pmount  is restricted to members of the system group plugdev. Please add all desk top users who shall be able to use pmount to this group by executing -   adduser user plugdev  (as root).04:20
DBOslavik, he wanted to do it in terminal04:20
cahill_johni have my DNS server no.s04:20
slavikthen nano04:20
nikosgran i can be loggen into at rhe sma time with msn and irc and google chat?04:20
cppnewbieto anyone that can help, while installing some packages i encounter errors. is it possible that they happen cuz of the fact that i am using 64 bits?04:21
cahill_johnthey r 202.144.105.404:21
slavikcahill_john: sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf04:21
cahill_johnok04:21
cppnewbieor it also depends on the errors?04:21
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enzohence my seeing the disk & being unable to mount it !!04:21
Jimmey__nikosgr, yes04:21
slavikcppnewbie: possibly04:21
nikosgrthat great04:21
slavikcppnewbie: and depends on errors04:21
nikosgrhey iam coming now through gaim!04:21
cppnewbiewell ill post a simple one04:21
DBOslavik, you got a problem with the worlds "best" text editor =P04:21
Jimmey__cppnewbie, you're better off using a 32bit system. Or Gentoo XoD04:21
Jimmey__DBO, XoD04:21
cahill_johnslavik after that04:21
slavikDBO: I started using vi after going through vitutor... but new people should use something with lower learning curve04:21
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cppnewbiewell ive heard that u can just as well use a 64 bit system with symlinks to a 32 bit system chroot04:22
slavikcahill_john: you're in nano?04:22
cahill_johni am in windows man04:22
DBOslavik, its not a learning curve, its more of a learning cliff04:22
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cahill_johnif i could connect to IRC in linux i wouldnt be here04:22
slavikcahill_john: scroll down to the last line, make a new one if needed ...04:22
Jimmey__cppnewbie, you've just baffled me with technical words. You clearly know more than me :)04:22
enzoslavik.. this is new to me.. to uses usb plugins, you gatta be membre of group plugdev??!!!04:22
slavikenzo: I guess04:22
cppnewbieJimmey__, i barely know a thing about ubuntu. i havent even used it for a week04:22
enzowow.. that's not very kool...04:22
DBOenzo, its a security thing04:22
cahill_johnadd what line04:23
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enzoshoud be a line on this somewhere in ubuntu forums.. important nowadays..04:23
slaviknameserver04:23
cahill_johnlet me tell u my DNS no.s04:23
slavikfollowed by a space and the IP address (number) of the DNS server04:23
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slavikdo same line for each number04:23
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cahill_johnmy preferred DNS no. is 202.144.105.404:23
enzogoona check it out... bbl04:23
slaviknameserver 202.144.105.404:23
cahill_johnmy alternate is 202.144.10.5004:23
slavikthat is the line you want04:24
ElazarNoUse: Thanks. :)04:24
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slaviknameserver 202.144.10.5004:24
cahill_johnin the end?04:24
slavikis the other line04:24
slavikyes04:24
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Jimmey__cahill_john, system, administration, networking..04:24
Jimmey__It's that simple :S04:24
cahill_johndo i add 2 lines then?04:24
slavikyes04:24
slavikJimmey__: I think he is editing it from windows ...04:24
NikosGrhey04:24
NikosGrhi!04:25
DBOwith the ext2 file system plugin mcdoogle?04:25
Jimmey__slavik, oh04:25
NikosGrvery beautifull04:25
slavikhey, who are you?04:25
cahill_johnso i add these 2 lines slavik04:25
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Jimmey__The gaim guy..04:25
Jimmey__:P04:25
slavikcahill_john: yes04:25
NikosGrslavik: :)04:25
cahill_johnand press ctrl. 004:25
slavikomg, he killed niko!!!04:25
slavik:D04:25
cahill_johnor is it ctrl. + o04:25
slavikcahill_john: yes04:25
slavikthen ctrl+x to exit04:25
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NikosGrloool04:25
cahill_johnthen u sure it'll work?04:25
slavikyes04:25
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cahill_johnbcoz verything occured fine till noe04:26
slavikunless something changes it ...04:26
cahill_johnmy ip got configured correctly04:26
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slavikcahill_john: in terminal do 'sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf.backup'04:26
cahill_johnso did my subnet mask and my dw04:26
slavikbut not dns servers?04:26
slavikcahill_john: I had the same thing04:26
cahill_johnu said nano?04:26
slavikcahill_john: yes04:26
cahill_johnnow why did u change04:27
slaviknano is an easier to use editor than vi04:27
slavikgedit is a graphical text editor04:27
cahill_johni use nano so i am proficient with  it04:27
slavikoh, ok04:27
cahill_johni use it for g++04:27
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slavikvi is another command line editor04:27
cahill_johni hate it04:27
DBOits wonderful04:27
slavikif you code, look into vi evetually04:27
cahill_johni know04:27
cahill_johnyeah04:27
cahill_johnso after i exit04:27
cahill_johnwhat do i do04:28
slavikcahill_john: look for a file named 'vitutor'04:28
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cahill_johnok04:28
slaviknothing ... they should work right away04:28
cahill_johnok thanx04:28
slavikyou might have to restart your program though04:28
cahill_johnok04:28
cahill_johni.e. my firefox browser04:28
slavikyes04:28
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cahill_johnok man thanks a million04:29
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slaviknp04:29
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NikosGrguys jabber is googls chat server?04:29
DBOyes04:29
cahill_johnbut i'll be back with more linux troubles04:29
slavikJimmey__: ib that render, did you do the textures?04:29
cahill_johnok bye04:29
slavikcahill_john: I or someone else will be here :)04:29
Jimmey__slavik, every single one04:29
slavikNikosGr: other way around :)04:29
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DBONikosGr, do you need help setting up gtalk in GAIM?04:29
NikosGrye splease04:29
slavikJimmey__: want to UVMap and texture a Glock21C?04:30
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NikosGrbecaus ei also have an account there04:30
DBONikosGr, ok, go to the add new account area04:30
slavikNikosGr: there is no voice support though04:30
Jimmey__slavik, that's a handgun, right?04:30
NikosGrno problem04:30
slavikyes04:30
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slavikJimmey__: it's about 2k triangles04:30
DBONikosGr, click add, a new window will pop up, in there are a bunch of options, here is what you need to fill out04:30
Jimmey__slavik, I don't know - The only UV map in that render was the floor, and that was really simple04:30
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slavikp00p04:30
NikosGrDBO: i did fill them04:31
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NikosGrbut still i cant connect04:31
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DBONikosGr, your screen name should not have the @gmail.com part04:31
slavikNikosGr: any errors?04:31
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NikosGra yes guys04:31
NikosGri was entering @gmail.com as well04:31
Jimmey__slavik, can I see the model?04:31
NikosGrbecause i though i must fill it all04:31
slavikJimmey__: hold on ...04:31
stravhe, anyone kind enough to tell me where does sendmail.cf got it's value for the cw line? (I've seen on other distros (other than debian/ubuntu) there's the sendmail.cw... )04:31
DBONikosGr, server is gmail.com, resources is game, and in advanced options TLS if available should be checked, connect port is 5222 and connect server is talk.google.com04:31
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DBOresource is gaim* (sorry)04:32
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NikosGryeah!04:33
NikosGrwhat is resources stand for?04:33
DBONikosGr, no idear, I think its an identifier for... something... yes04:34
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martin_hi04:34
DBOhi04:34
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NikosGrlike an ident or something04:34
DBONikosGr, I believe so yes04:34
martin_my first time in irc :)04:34
hajuuAnyone know why like 90% of the time I get "bad header lines" from apt-get au universe repositories, and sometiems it works perfect?04:34
DBOmartin_, here for help or fun? =)04:35
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NikosGralias is the handle i wan tot appear right?04:35
martin_just fun04:35
DBONikosGr, yes04:35
slavikfor you04:35
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koobiwould anyone happen to know how a windows disk is acessible via the live CD? how can it be mounted? df -Th doesnt show any windows disks04:35
DBOmartin_, the fun room is #ubuntu-offtopic, this is for tech support mostly =)04:35
martin_have just installed ubuntu in vmware04:35
Jimmey__koobi, fdisk -l04:35
Jimmey__Try that04:35
slavikJimmey__: I have a terrible render (low poly)04:35
_jasonkoobi: sudo fdisk -l04:36
martin_oh, sorry04:36
NikosGrwhen i configure gaim chats04:36
koobithanks, i'll try. its for a friends PC, cant try it here coz i dont hve win here04:36
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cppnewbieis it possible to change the white background of the terminal to black and the letters to white?04:36
NikosGri cant understand what i must fiull as screen anem and what as an alias04:36
NoUseNikosGr its so when you are logged into your jabber account from multiple accounts, you can set stuff like 'home' or 'office' so people know where you are chatting from,  In better jabber clients, you can set priorities and do some pretty cool stuff04:36
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Jimmey__cppnewbie, yep04:36
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Jimmey__Try editing the profile04:36
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DBONikosGr, alias is what will show up on YOUR buddy list.  This is handy in cases were people have obscure screen names and you just want their real name to show up04:36
NikosGrNoUse: Aaaah!, isee so that the use o\f resources04:37
martin_how can i change channel?04:37
NoUseNikosGr yup04:37
cppnewbieJimmey__, how?04:37
Jimmey__Jimmey__, hit the 'edit' tab04:37
Jimmey__Let me check04:37
DBOmartin_, into the text entry box type "/j #ubuntu-offtopic"04:37
Jimmey__Yeah04:37
slavikjimmey, a bad render of the gun ... I have the wavefront obj file if you want it04:37
Jimmey__'Edit', 'Profiles'04:37
martin_thx04:37
hajuuAnyone know why like 90% of the time I get "bad header lines" from apt-get au universe repositories, and sometiems it works perfect?04:38
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Jimmey__slavik, I don't think that the import scripts are working in my Blender04:38
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DBOhajuu, /etc/apt/sources.list -> pastebin04:38
Jimmey__slavik, it doesn't appear to be sending, although I've accepted04:38
slavikJimmey__: take the render :P04:38
slavikhmm, I'll pastebin it04:39
slavik!pastebin04:39
ubotupastebin is, like, totally, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126904:39
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cppnewbieJimmey__, thx, its better this way04:39
Jimmey__cppnewbie, http://jimmey.ath.cx/content/Screenshot.png04:40
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NikosGrscreen names and alias are soemthign different on irc conf of gaim?04:40
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slavikhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1292604:40
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Jimmey__Thanks04:40
slavikNikosGr: correct04:40
hajuuhttp://pastebin.com/683043 --sources.list04:40
DBOJimmey__, your background is sexerific04:40
hajuuI can apt-get update, with no errors04:40
AnsiChello04:40
Jimmey__DBO, thanks ;)04:41
hajuubut downloading fails04:41
NikosGri understand screen anme as handle04:41
DBOhi AnsiC04:41
Jimmey__Slavik, that's a nice model :P04:41
slavikI made a higher poly one04:41
DBOhajuu, any way we can talk you into upgrading?04:41
NikosGrbut in alias what must i fill?04:41
slavikthe tac light lacks detail though04:41
slavikbecause I don't have any shots of the back of it04:41
hajuudbo: sure... when my cds arrive.04:41
hajuu:D04:41
slavikNikosGr: leave it blank04:42
NikosGryes04:42
NikosGrubuntu is getting prettier and more easier at the time! :004:42
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DBOhajuu, my guess is the problem isnt with your machine but that might just be me being stupid.  You COULD try using a different countries servers and see if that helps04:42
NikosGrif only i could change teminal consoles background04:42
NikosGrcolor and foreground color and size04:42
DBOJimmey__, how do I talk you into giving me a high res version of that?04:43
NikosGri hate white as bg04:43
Jimmey__DBO, the background?04:43
DBOJimmey__, yes04:43
Jimmey__DBO, like this04:43
cppnewbieNikosGr, ellhniko ubuntu exeis?04:43
NikosGroxi xeno04:43
Jimmey__Jimmey__, can I please have a high-res version of that background?04:43
Jimmey__Then I'd say,04:43
Jimmey__Sure, let me find it04:43
Jimmey__;)04:43
slavikI'd give it for a sexual favor ...04:43
DBOJimmey__, can I please have a high-res version of that background?04:44
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slavikor money04:44
Jimmey__DBO, sure, let me find it04:44
slavikwatch Jimmey__ say he doesn't have it04:44
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NikosGrsorry i got disconenctes04:44
NikosGrdid i missed soemthing?04:44
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slavikNikosGr: gr = greece?04:44
DBOnot really04:44
NikosGryes slavik04:44
slavikk04:44
Jimmey__DBO, the good news, or the bad news?04:44
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axismewhat background?04:45
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NikosGrumm any way i can chnage the terminal colors?04:45
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NikosGrbg and fg04:45
slavikNikosGr: yes04:45
Jimmey__http://jimmey.ath.cx/content/Screenshot.png04:45
slavikprofile04:45
NikosGrconosle are ncie when they are green on black :)04:45
DBObad news?04:45
rune_kg#?04:46
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NikosGrand thay are bigeger sizes04:46
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Jimmey__DBO, I've not got the original, high-res04:46
DBOdoh04:46
ElazarNoUse: Did what you suggested and now I get this when I run the jEdit installer: ** ERROR **: file ../../../src/libjava/jni/gtk-peer/gnu_java_awt_peer_gtk_GtkImage.c: line 572 (createRawData): assertion failed: (data_fid != 0)04:46
utentesorry, a new user, sandra. May someone can tell me how install java on Ubuntu?04:46
Jimmey__DBO, good news is, I've got an trimmed version that's ready made for terminal backgrounds, and...04:46
axismecan i have a copy of that background too? :-D04:46
Jimmey__I'll host it on FTP :P04:46
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teletubbiehi04:47
teletubbiewhat tool do I install to see the cpu temperature?04:47
NoUseElazar I would talk to the Jedit people04:47
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Jimmey__Actually, guys, try http://jimmey.ath.cx/content/Firefox_wallpaper2.png04:47
DBOtelemaco, lm-sensors04:47
NikosGris it easy to do what i want or is it complicated?04:47
ElazarNoUse: K, thanks. Don't suppose you have any suggest as to why Ubuntu sees my Creative MuVo 256 MB as a "973.8 MB Removable Volume?"04:47
slavikNikosGr: profile04:47
slavikright click in window and then settings or whatever04:48
slavikor file -> settings04:48
slavikpoke around the menu04:48
PutiikkiElazar: my 1GB muvo says same04:48
slavikElazar: are you against the extra storage ???04:48
teletubbiehow do I use lm-sensor?04:48
NikosGredit->profiels i see04:48
teletubbieany aplet for that?\04:48
NoUseElazar well my Muve 64MB is seen as a "removable volume" but I don't know why it is messing up the size so much04:48
Elazarslavik: I just know it's not there. ;)04:48
NikosGryeahh04:48
ElazarNoUse: Hm... K, thanks.04:49
slavikElazar: well, wasn't there a 512MB mp3 player with a 4gb card or something?04:49
NikosGrit sthere i can anjust anythign now!04:49
slavik:P04:49
NikosGrthanks!04:49
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VR_how can i do a clean install of dapper over the network, even though i only have a breezy cd.04:49
ubuntuVi saluto04:49
ubuntucom?04:49
slavikmark needs to get on here more often so we can bug him about russians in space :D04:49
teletubbiehow do I use lm-sensor?04:50
VR_i tried a server install with breezy, then changed the sources.list to read dapper instead of breezy and did sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop... that gave me problems though04:50
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slavikyes it would VR_ ... not a good idea to do that04:50
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VR_slavik: is there any other method?04:50
slavikVR_: change those back to breezy and the update04:50
zielonyDo you know some good free isp panels ? (something like CPanel)04:50
slavikVR_: you want to upgrade to dapper?04:51
VR_slavik: oh i tried it on my test machine, i've since reinstalled breezy on there.04:51
slavikzielony: SSH ;)04:51
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slavikVR_: you can use the update manager :)04:51
VR_slavik: not really upgrade, but do a clean-install04:51
slavik!update04:51
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik04:51
slavikthere is a wiki page on upgrading to dapper from breezy if you want04:51
slavikhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1292804:51
VR_i see04:51
ElazarYeah, this makes a whole lot of sense -- Contents: 176.3 MB, Volume: 973.8 MB, Free Space: 64.6 MB.04:52
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slaviksudo "update-manager -d"04:52
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slavikpretty much all it tells you to do04:52
figarosalut04:52
VR_alrighty04:52
VR_thanks slavik04:52
Jimmey__!fr04:52
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:52
figarohi04:52
slavikVR_: it's how I updated mine04:52
VR_that's a cool screeny btw04:52
slavikElazar: maybe your muvo is 1GB but the stuff over 256MB is disabled?04:53
NikosGrdone! looks great04:53
slavikty04:53
VR_slavik: sudo: update-manager -d: command not found04:53
VR_oh maybe i need to install it04:53
slavikhmm04:53
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slavikprobably ... heh04:54
VR_=)04:54
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enzoJoin Ubuntu-fr04:54
enzodarned04:54
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slavikVR_: did you put update-manager -d in quotes?04:55
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slavikit has to be in quotes04:55
VR_slavik: yeah04:55
Elazarslavik: Guess so...04:55
slavikgood04:55
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VR_its not working04:55
slavikElazar: read up if you can unlock the hidden power!!! :D04:56
slavikhmm04:56
slavikyou have update-manager installed?04:56
VR_and i had update-manager already installed04:56
VR_yup04:56
slaviksudo "update-manager -d"04:56
slavikjust like that ...04:56
slavikwith quotes04:56
VR_slavik: it's gksudo "update-manager -d"04:57
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_jasonVR_: type: which update-manager04:57
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VR__jason: it's working already04:57
_jasonoh04:57
NikosGrnikos@dell:~$ find / -name eth*.conf04:57
VR_it was gksudo04:57
VR_not just sudo04:57
slavikhmm, should've been gksudo ...04:57
NikosGriam lokking eth0.conf gile04:57
slavikyea04:57
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VincentMXis there any good x86 emulator in Ubuntu's apt?04:59
VR_thanks slavik, _jason04:59
FrogzooNikosGr: /etc/network/interfaces04:59
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slavikVincentMX: are you not on x86?05:00
slavikVR_: any time ...05:00
samuel_speak italien05:00
samuel_italian05:00
NikosGrFrogzoo: /etc/network/interfaces is a conf file?05:00
slavik_jason will be here so you can bother him :D05:00
slavik!it05:00
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:00
FrogzooNikosGr: aye, that it be05:00
NikosGryeah05:00
NikosGri though it would be called eth0.conf05:00
VincentMXslavik, yes i am, but i want to try ReactOS, and i don't feel like installing it, since it takes hours on my computer, and i won't be able to be on irc then05:00
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FrogzooNikosGr: Redhat?05:01
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slavikVincentMX: read into vmware05:01
slavik!vmware05:01
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik05:01
VR_slavik: ubotu doesn't like you at all today05:01
astro9040does anyone know what i need to start compiling programs like what programs im going to need05:01
slavikhe's still not happy about last night05:01
Frogzoo!build-essential05:01
ubotuwell, build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info05:01
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NikosGrFrogzoo: yeah :)05:01
slavikFrogzoo: the line about interface file, add an "arrg, matey!" at the end :D05:02
Frogzooarrr05:02
astro9040!build-essential05:02
ubotuit has been said that build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info05:02
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NikosGriam getting used to ubuntru pretty qucik with your help guys!05:02
mojohello party people.  i have had my first kernel panic.  isn't that fun?  I upgraded from breezy to dapper using the update manager (gksudo update-manager -d).  Luckily I have a amd64 install to play with on a different partition.  But thanks to macromedia I can't really just start up and using this install daily yet.  Anyone got some advice for me?   I have never had a kernel panic before.05:02
slaviknow you need a parrot ... and you are all set to be a pirate :D05:02
jonohi all05:02
NoUse!xen05:02
ubotuwell, xen is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/ .05:02
jonoanyone running Xgl here with the ATI propreitary driver?05:03
teletubbiehow do you configure lm-sensor?05:03
astro9040can anyone help05:03
slavikjono: ati driver yes, xgl no ...05:03
NikosGrumm, may i ask what tool u use to listen music(mp3)? is there soemthign similar to  media player classic?05:03
slavikjono: try the #ubuntu+1 channel and also the forums05:03
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FrogzooNikosGr: amarok05:03
slavikNikosGr: media player :P05:03
Frogzoo!amarok05:03
ubotu[amarok]  a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/05:03
slavik!totem05:04
jonoI am having trouble getting accelleration working with xgl05:04
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik05:04
slavikwtf?05:04
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NikosGryes but amarok is for kde no?05:04
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slavikubotu, totem is a very nice media player that is installed with Ubuntu. It can be found in Applications -> Sound and Video.05:04
ubotuslavik: okay05:04
slavikNikosGr: yes05:05
NikosGrbut iam using gnome05:05
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slavikNikosGr: go to applications and then sound and video and just about anything there will play sound stuff05:05
NikosGrso its btter to sue totem?05:05
klmubotu totem05:05
ubotufrom memory, totem is a very nice media player that is installed with Ubuntu. It can be found in Applications -> Sound and Video.05:05
NikosGri mean download totem05:05
slavikNikosGr: doesn't matetr really05:05
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slaviktotem is already installed05:05
slavikso is xmms05:05
slavikxmms is like winamp on linux05:05
NikosGri see05:06
astro9040totem doesnt always work05:06
NikosGrtotem is not installed to me05:06
slavikhmm05:06
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astro9040i cant get it to play my movies or music05:06
slavikNikosGr: are you using the default install of ubuntu?05:06
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slavikastro9040: do you have the codecs?05:06
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NikosGryes form the torrent i download05:06
NikosGrcd instalaltion05:06
NikosGrnot dvd installation05:06
slavikk05:06
astro9040slavik, how do i get them/install them and where to05:06
slavik'Movie Player'05:06
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zielonyDo you know some good free isp panels ? (something like CPanel)05:06
slavik!w32codecs05:06
ubotuhmm... w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install05:06
shamea05:07
teletubbieNo i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.05:07
slavikzielony: hit up google for that, it is a better source than this channel05:07
shamea, Hi05:07
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shamea..05:07
tdnI have just installed my HP LaserJet 1010 In ubuntu Dapper Drake and when trying to print a text file using lpr, it says: lpr: Error - no default destination available.05:07
shamea  ?05:07
slavikshamea: please type in english05:07
shamea..05:07
shameasorry,,05:07
NikosGrslavik: must i download totem?05:07
slavikit's ok05:07
slackernwas that chinese?05:07
slavikNikosGr: it's not required05:07
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slavikdunno05:08
slavikshamea: what language do you speak?05:08
alterrhello guys: what the command to list the  packages dependency?05:08
shameaWhere's Korean..? I'm Ubuntu Korean user/..05:08
slavikahh05:08
slackern!kr05:08
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slackern05:08
slavik!kr05:08
NikosGrslavik: what do you mean?05:08
NikosGri need totem to ehar music and watch videos no?05:08
shameayeah.. I'm korean..05:08
slavikNikosGr: I use totem05:08
astro9040slavik, actually where do i install them i have a copy of the win32 codecs do i put them in /usr/lib/win32 like the other distros05:08
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shameaahh!!05:09
slavikastro9040: there is a package for those05:09
StargazersHi. Does GNomes sound recorder Jack?05:09
hajuuyeah.. switched over to the main ubuntu repositories.. all good05:09
slavikshamea: I don't think there is a ubuntu channel for korean users05:09
slavikshamea: let me check more05:09
ColD_7is the ubuntu 6.04 available to the web now?05:09
shameaI'll going to my Korean sever...sorrysorry..;;05:09
NikosGrslavik: yes but i dotn have it, must i apt-get install totem ?05:09
astro9040slavik, in the ubuntu repository?05:09
tdnHow to set the defaul tprinter for lpr?05:10
shameaHave a nice day.!! slavik..05:10
StargazersI have a problem to record audio :S05:10
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StargazersIt just don't record it05:10
sadfasdfi have a small problem with  finding dc++ server and client progs that are in exucutable and not in source anyone got any clue i have tried goggle but dont realy no what to seach for05:10
slavik!ko05:10
ubotuFor Korean help, /join #ubuntu-ko05:10
StargazersOn Line In05:10
slavikColD_7: no 6.04 ... we get 6.06 ...05:10
NikosGrslavik: ?05:10
slavikahh, yes then05:10
alterrwhat the command to list the  packages dependency?05:11
jonowhats the name of the propreitary ATI driver package in dapper?05:11
slavikfglrx-something ...05:11
slavikalterr: apt-cache depends packagename05:11
GazzaKerm, when you run glxgears -printfps to give an idea of fps, is the gear ani supposed to be run full screen?05:11
alterrslavik: thanks05:12
StargazersAnyone ideas?05:12
StargazersWhy I can't record Line In05:12
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StargazersI try to record guitars in Line In05:12
ColD_7slavik, so am i able to get 6.06 on web now?05:12
StargazersBut I can't record05:12
StargazersIt just don't save anything05:12
StargazersBut I can play thru soundcard05:12
StargazersThat works fine05:12
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rane_what is WINS05:12
slavikColD_7: only beta05:12
StargazersI can mute it or let it play05:12
StargazersAnd that workd05:13
StargazersWorks05:13
StargazersBut recording - No way :(05:13
StargazersAny ideas what it might be?05:13
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rane_what is WINS?05:14
slavik!wins05:14
ubotuslavik: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:14
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slavikhttp://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=1&q=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WINS&e=14905&ei=f45PRIHPCJT2qAK1-6XJAQ05:15
Jimmey__For anyone that downloaded the background from my site, I found it on gnome-look. I feel guilty for not giving the artist that created it credit :(05:15
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slavikJimmey__: it's ok, I already dtole your render :P05:15
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Jimmey__slavik, XoD05:15
Jimmey__Nice to know it's worth stealing05:16
slavikJimmey__: better than nothing ;)05:16
rane_!wins05:16
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rane_05:16
teletubbiedoes cpu freq scaling save energy?05:17
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slavikteletubbie: yes05:17
slavikbecause lower freq also uses lower voltage05:18
VincentMXslavik, VMware is not in Ubuntu's apt05:18
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VincentMXbecouse it isn't opensource05:18
slavikVincentMX: no it isn't05:18
VincentMXand the file is rpm05:18
VincentMXand alien takes hours to install it05:18
slavikvmware is not free with proper "patches" ;)05:18
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slavikhmm ... there was something else that was mentioned ...05:19
VincentMXxen?05:19
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slavikI think so05:19
slavik!xen05:19
ubotuhmm... xen is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/ .05:19
VincentMXhmm05:19
slavikyes, that05:19
StargazersAnyone doesn't know about recording audio??05:19
VincentMXxen can't run lot's of os's05:19
valentyn_what exacly?05:20
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VincentMXyou need to compile the OS for xen05:20
Frafrahi all05:20
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valentyn_hi05:20
VincentMXyo Frafra05:20
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FrafraI need to edit the partition table of my ipod and I must be sure that is not mounted and not in use. How can I do that?05:21
teletubbiecpu running at 30 C :)05:21
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slavikumount it ...05:22
slavikteletubbie: nice05:22
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Frafraslavik: yes :) but when I write new partitions, ubuntu mount them!05:22
slavikI see ... can you umount them?05:23
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rane_how do run files on terminal? what command do i use?05:24
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Frafraslavik: yes, but I want that ubuntu don't touch them :) No automount included.05:24
slavikrane_: what do you mean? you want to view a file?05:24
Seantaterrane_: what do you want to run?05:24
rane_i want to change some things in smb.conf05:24
Seantaterrane_: then open gedit05:24
slavikFrafra: I am sure you can disable the automounter05:24
rane_where05:25
Seantaterrane_: to the file you are trying to edit05:25
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NoUserane_ gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf should work05:25
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Frafraslavik: yes, but I don't know how05:25
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slavikneither do I :(05:25
slavik!automount05:25
ubotuslavik: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:25
slavik!amount05:25
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik05:25
slavikhmm, sorry :(05:25
Frafraok :(05:25
FrafraI think that I must edit fstab...05:26
fastwingsif i want install the win coedc so i can play moviews and staff05:26
Gryzo1The Synaptic version in 6.06 has no "showdisabledsoftwaresources", any ideas on how to perform this very same task?05:26
fastwingswhat i need do05:26
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WolfmanKI'm installing dapper but the live cd forces a gnome 640x 480 resolution on my system with...   any way to change that?05:26
slavik!w32codecs05:26
ubotuw32codecs is, like, totally, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install05:26
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slavik!tell Gryzo1 -about repos05:26
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ElazarTrying to install the JRE 1.5 using the directions here ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=AddingJavaSupport#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c249 ... up to the point where I'm running this command ... sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common ... and getting this error ... E: Couldn't find package java-package ... suggestions?05:27
smlI cant run update-manager .. this message appears .. The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.05:27
ElazarI've enabled universe and multiverse repos in Synaptic.05:27
Frafraif I edit fstab, do I have to restart pc? [excuseme for the bad english] 05:27
NikosGrto listen an mp3 i must totem filename.mp3 ?05:27
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Gryzo1slavik: thanks, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto says one thing and the screen shows a different one. There's no such checkbox in my synaptic.05:28
NoUse!info java-package05:28
ubotujava-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.26 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 308 kB05:28
Gryzo1!tell Gryzo1 -about repos05:28
smlusually it asks for the root password .. but nothing happens anymore :(05:28
NikosGrGryzo1: me too05:28
senjinanyone know a dc++ server prog that dont have to bee compiled?05:28
NikosGri had the smae problem today Gryzo105:28
NoUseElazar have you refreshed your sources since you've updated your repos?05:28
slavikGryzo1: uncomment the proper lines with a text editor05:28
farruinnFrafra: Depends on the changes you made I guess05:28
Gryzo1NikosGr: and what did you do ? hand edit?05:28
NikosGri asked warbo and he told me05:29
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NikosGrwait iam gonan paste to youu the lien i have added05:29
Frafrafarruinn: I've put 3 lines at the end like this: /dev/sdb1       /media/cdrom2   auto    noauto          0       005:29
Gryzo1NikosGr: thanks.05:29
smlhas anyone else had similar issues with update-manager?05:29
NikosGrno problem05:30
farruinnFrafra: I don't think you should have to reboot then05:30
NikosGrdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse05:30
NikosGrhere05:30
slaviksml: use gksudo instead of sudo05:30
Gryzo1NikosGr: in which file did you add this?05:30
ElazarNoUse: If you mean doing sudo apt-get update then yes.05:30
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slavikGryzo1: /etc/apt/sources.list05:30
NikosGryou have 2 ways05:30
NoUseElazar I would double check your repos and make sure multiverse isn't commented out05:30
NikosGryou can deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse >> /etc/apt/sources.list05:31
smlslavik .. same message ... The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.05:31
Gryzo1NikosGr: no prob, i've used vi ;)05:31
NikosGrot uou can do it via synaptic05:31
slavikgksudi update-manager05:31
NikosGrsettings->add->custom an then add this line05:31
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slavikgksudo*05:31
NikosGrcat deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse >> /etc/apt/sources.list05:31
ElazarOdd... it was. :\ I used Synaptic to enable it. Not sure why it didn't take.05:32
NikosGrdamn sorry05:32
NikosGrecho deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse >> /etc/apt/sources.list05:32
Gryzo1NikosGr:  :) thanks05:32
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slaviksml: you have to be the user that was created when ubuntu was installed05:32
NikosGrGryzo1: glad to be of a help Gryzo105:32
OliHIya, just apt-get'ed mysql server, trying to start it up, without look evenwith the start script or just mysqld_safe it starts and instantly shutsdown...no interessting loogs, next step to try? Some other friend has exact the same issue - any hints?05:32
smlsalvik .. yes .. result .. Failed to run update-manager05:32
smlThe underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.05:32
fastwingsarmm will win32codec will run video of mp4?05:32
fastwingsthe new encoding05:32
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smlslavik ... yes I was ... but i did add a new user after ? has that done something?05:32
smlhow do i remove a user?05:33
kornichehi all05:33
kornichei'm having a little problem here ,05:33
kornicheis there anyone to help me ?05:33
Gryzo1NikosGr: Now I need to remember why I wanted to add this :D05:33
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NoUse!ask05:34
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.05:34
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kornichei just finished installing Ubuntu05:34
NikosGrGryzo1: lol05:34
kornichei'm newbie ..05:34
astro9040anyone know anything about vservers or xen05:34
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_jason!ask =~ s/outputs/and outputs/05:35
ubotu_jason: OK05:35
kornichei've an SCSI hard disk05:35
NikosGrbecause you need your sytem to know where to find new packages05:35
kornichehow can i mount it to read datas inside ?05:35
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NikosGri wonder why be default isn like this05:35
_jason!ask =~ s/outputs/output/05:35
ubotu_jason: OK05:35
slavikkorniche: do you know the file system on the drive?05:35
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mwe!ask =~ s/,and/and/05:36
ubotumwe: that doesn't contain ',and'05:36
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smlhow do you delete a user from the system?05:36
mwe!ask =~ s/, and/ and/05:36
ubotuOK, mwe05:36
kornicheslavik,  i don't think so ..05:36
slaviksml: using passwd ...05:36
slavikkorniche: did Windows format the scsi drive?05:37
kornicheslavik,  , i think that i just need to know how to mount a hard disk05:37
NoUsesml you can use the users and passwords dialgo in system -> administration05:37
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smlNoUse .. of course .. ta :)05:37
slavikkorniche: for that, we need to know the file system that the drive was formatted with.05:37
kornicheslavik, , i tryed with windows , i saw it as a hard disk , but i can't get inside , coz it's an Unix partition ..05:37
slavikkorniche: this is so that the system knows how to access it and stuff05:37
slavikkorniche: that is closer05:37
smlslavik .. man passwd looks easy also :)05:37
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slaviksml: :P05:38
slavikkorniche: which unix formatted the drive?05:38
kornicheahh slavik  , u're talking about witch partition ? if it's NTFS or FAT or something else ?05:38
slavikwhat OSmade the partition?05:38
slavikyes05:38
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slavikthat is called the file system though05:38
kornicheok .. this hard disk was on a server with Unix05:38
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NikosGrcan ubuntu write to ntfs volumes as well as it read them?05:38
axismeno05:39
slavikntfs, fat32, ext3 ... are file systems :)05:39
mweNikosGr: not safely05:39
slavikNikosGr: what mwe said05:39
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patrick_kingi have a file called   realsoft3d-4.5-linux-i386.sh  on my desktop how do i install it05:39
kornicheok slavik  :p05:39
slavikkorniche: so, do you know the file system?05:39
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NikosGriam willing to try it05:39
kornichejust a second , i'll check it05:39
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slavikpatrick_king: in terminal 'sudo sh filename.sh'05:40
axismethen you need to recompile your kernel05:40
mweNikosGr: it will probalby break05:40
NikosGri will now create  a test file with vi and i will try to write it to windows xo d:\ drive05:40
konstandinoskhi i got disconnected so if anyone replied please let me know05:40
slavikNikosGr: before you do that05:40
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konstandinoskmilas ellinika?05:40
teletubbiehow do you install spell check for xchat?05:40
slavikwriting that single file can mess up the entire thing ... so back up first05:40
NikosGrbut i dont want my xp to crush05:40
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NoUseNikosGr then I would recommend against it05:41
kornichehey slavik  , it's telling that it's not formated , but i just took it off from the server and it was working and there's still the datas , and i even can boot on it too05:41
ElazarNoUse: OK, uncommented the multiverse lines, did an update (and actually got updates this time), did an upgrade, and then tried the same command again and got the same error.05:41
dg_wAre ther rumurs right that Ubuntu are thinking of using the click and run warehouse  ..... plese tell me no :(05:41
kornichebut , here it's telling that it's not formated with ubuntu05:41
slavikNikosGr: I would suggest using winxp and burning important data to a CD first05:41
NikosGrumm ok i will use it in an ntfs partitoin i dotn have crucial data on05:41
slavikkorniche: can you get the file system type? we need it for mount05:41
axismei think it can write to fat32 safely05:42
NikosGrpray for me folks! :)05:42
slavikNikosGr: then feel free to write and stuff05:42
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kornicheslavik, , how can i do it ? just for informations , when i saw it on windows with Partition magic 8.0 , it said that it's a Unix partition05:43
konstandinoskdoes anyone know how to configure xserver-xorg for a radeon x550?05:43
slavikhmm, that's not enough info05:43
konstandinoskdefault ati drivers dont work05:43
slavik!ati05:43
ubotuit has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358905:43
konstandinoskthanks slackern05:43
konstandinoskslavik even05:43
slavikuse the BinaryDriverHowTo ...05:43
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visik7hi05:43
slavikkorniche: hold on05:43
NoUseNikosGr https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite05:43
kornicheok05:44
Seantatervisik7: helllo05:44
visik7anyone know how can I use target DROP cited in man iptables with ubuntu ?05:44
overriderdoes postfix have already pop3 server?05:44
visik7overrider: no05:44
slavikkorniche: what Unix system was it?05:44
overridervisik7, ah i thought so. can you recommend a good one?05:45
slavikkorniche: go to System -> Administration -> Disks ... see if it gets listed there05:45
kornicheyeah , it's listed there05:45
visik7overrider: pop server or a mail server that includes smtp and pop3 ?05:45
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kornichebut it's telling that it's not formated05:45
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slavikhmm05:45
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kornicheslavik korniche: what Unix system was it? ==> i don't know exactelly , it's not mine05:45
overridervisik7, sorry. a popserver i can use in conjunction with postfix05:45
NoUsekorniche are you sure there is data on the drive?05:46
slavikkorniche: k, what is it in /dev ?05:46
teletubbiehow do I enable spell checking?05:46
XamDMis the package xserver-xorg in dapper broken ??05:46
visik7overrider: depend on the method u use to store accounts05:46
slavikNoUse: can mount detect the file system automatically?05:46
Jimmey__!dapper05:46
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)05:46
kornicheNoUse,  , yeah i'm sure !05:46
NoUseslavik sometimes05:46
slavikXamDM: don't think so05:46
GazzaKI used glxgears to test if my ati drivers were working okay, but I have noticed that if the size of the window the gears are displayed in changes, the fps rate changes, is there a standard window size to use this to compare performance with?05:46
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slavikNoUse: I want him to do that05:46
XamDMslackern, hm upgrade failed05:46
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slavikGazzaK: glxgears is not a good benchmark tool05:47
XamDMslackern,  /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg_7.0.0-0ubuntu31_i386.deb05:47
XamDME: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)05:47
Jimmey__slavik, what is05:47
slavikJimmey__: 3dmark2001se?05:47
teletubbiehow do I enable spell checking?05:47
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NoUseXamDM the deb you have might be corrupt, try deleting it and redownloading05:47
ElazarNoUse: Uncommented multiverse lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, updated, upgraded, ran sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common, and I'm still getting E: Couldn't find package java-package.05:47
kornicheyeah , it's /dev/sda05:47
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NoUseElazar pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list05:47
slavikkorniche: sda ... what? there should be a number after it05:47
XamDMNoUse, didn't work05:47
kornicheNope05:48
kornichejust sda05:48
slavikk05:48
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kornicheah wait , sda405:48
kornichesorry05:48
slavikkorniche: try 'sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/scsidrive'05:48
BeawolfeCan anyone tell me how to get firefox to update to its newest version05:48
slavikok, the instead of sda, use sda4 in that line05:48
NikosGrexmm guys05:49
slavikBeawolfe: breezy is not getting forefox 1.505:49
kornicheslavik korniche: try 'sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt/scsidrive' ==< where ?05:49
ElazarNoUse: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1292905:49
thoreauputicElazar: my guess is you uncommented the backports multiverse but didn't add normal multiverse lines05:49
NoUseXamDM I'm getting the same error now, its probably broken05:49
waylandbillis there a script that makes ssh public/private key pair and uploads to a server?05:49
NikosGrwhat si the comamnds that will show mw all mounted volumes?05:49
slavikkorniche: in terminal (command line)05:49
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Elazarthoreauputic: D'oh! You're probably right about that. :P05:49
NikosGrand their mountpoints?05:49
slavikNikosGr: mount05:49
XamDMNoUse, ok, thx05:49
BeawolfeDo you mean its not available for Breezy?05:49
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NikosGrslavik: that simpel huh? :)05:49
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thoreauputicElazar: just add the word multiverse on each universe line05:50
slavikBeawolfe: correct, although you can still install it05:50
NikosGri though cat /etc/fstab05:50
GazzaKslavik, thanks for that, will keep that in mind.05:50
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slavik!tell Beawolfe about firefox05:50
thoreauputicElazar: and yes, looks like that's the problem05:50
patrick_kingwhere can i get  wormux05:50
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slavik!ff05:50
ubotuslavik: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:50
patrick_kingas theversion that i got with my linux mag int working05:50
NoUseElazar if you do apt-cache search java-package does it show up?05:50
slavikNikosGr: what did you expect? this isn't windows :P05:50
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ElazarNoUse: Command runs, but no output.05:51
thoreauputicNoUse: it won't until he fixes the list and runs apt-get update05:51
thoreauputic:)05:51
NikosGrok folks i knwo try to!05:51
kornicheslavik,  , it's first time that i use ubuntu , i used mandrake before , where can i find the remote ?05:51
NikosGrnikos@dell:~$ cp korios.txt /dev/hdb305:51
kornichethe terminal ?05:51
Jimmey__slavik, what do you use to model05:51
NikosGrthis si th big moment we all awaiting for!05:51
NoUseElazar pastebin the output of apt-get update05:51
slavikused 3ds max for that one05:51
slavikkorniche: remote?05:51
Jimmey__You use others?05:51
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NikosGrcp: cannot create regular file `/dev/hdb3': Permission denied05:52
slavikI used milkshape3d ...05:52
NikosGrdamn! why?05:52
slavikwhy?05:52
kornicheslavik korniche: in terminal (command line) ==< how can i open it ?05:52
NikosGrmust i define a filename?05:52
Jimmey__slavik, no Blender?05:52
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thoreauputicNikosGr: /dev/hdb3 is a device - what are you trying to do?05:52
slavikkorniche: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal05:52
ElazarNoUse, thoreauputic: Took thoreauputic's suggestion and it seems to be working now. Thanks to both of you.05:52
BearKnuckleNikosGr: Why do you want to create a file there?05:52
slavikJimmey__: have it but haven't learned it05:52
thoreauputicElazar: :)05:52
patrick_kinganyone05:53
Jimmey__slavik, I see..05:53
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VincentMX/join #reactos05:53
slavikwhen I started modeling blender wasn't popular yet ...05:53
VincentMX/join #freenode05:53
VincentMX?05:53
NikosGri must then try to05:53
NikosGrcp korios.txt /dev/hdb305:53
VincentMXwhy doesn't xchat join?05:53
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NikosGrcp korios.txt /dev/hdb3/korios.txt05:53
thoreauputicVincentMX: leading space?05:53
NikosGr?05:53
NikosGrgive a filename05:53
VincentMXthoreauputic, no05:53
kornicheslavik,  , it's telling " mount: vous devez spcifier le type de systme de fichiers05:53
korniche "05:53
NikosGri just wantes to palce a file form my home folder to a ntfs partition05:53
slavikkorniche: can you translate that to english please?05:53
kornicheit mean => u need to specify the type of system files05:53
DBONikosGr, you cant write to NTFS is ubuntu05:54
ompaulVincentMX, so why the spam?05:54
DBOin*05:54
slavikkorniche: right... this is why we need to know the system type05:54
Gryzo1Did anyone have success installing Opera 9 on 6.06 ?05:54
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VincentMXompaul, i don't spam, i just try to join a f*cking channel05:54
NikosGrnikos@dell:~$ cp korios.txt /dev/hdb3/korios.txt05:54
NikosGrcp: accessing `/dev/hdb3/korios.txt': Not a directory05:54
Jimmey__!dapper05:54
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)05:54
BearKnuckleThere is hardly a good write-support for ntfs-filesystems yet, NikosGr05:54
Jimmey__XoD05:54
NoUsekorniche what does 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' output?05:54
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VincentMXi'll use xchat's gui channel thing05:54
ompaulVincentMX, (A) we don't do *language and (B) you must have a leading space05:54
kornicheok , slavik  , when i was on windows , it said that it's a UNIX partition and another name05:54
kornichei forgot , if u tell me 2 or 3 types of partitions05:55
runelinddoes xinerama need to have the same resolution on both displays?05:55
ompaulVincentMX, click on the channels05:55
kornichei'll remember it05:55
slavikext305:55
BearKnuckleNikosGr: You cannot write directly to a device. You must mount the harddisk and then write to the mounted filestructure.05:55
slavikreiserfs05:55
slavikxfs05:55
slavikufs05:55
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BearKnuckleNikosGr: Anyway you cannot write on ntfs-disks at the moment.05:55
DBONikosGr, also, you cannot write to NTFS in ubuntu05:55
kornicheslavik,  , nope05:55
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NikosGri see05:55
kornicheare they Unix partitions ?05:55
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NoUsekorniche slavik Windows isn't aware of Unix partitions, it just calls Unix partions "Unknown" or "Corrupt"05:56
Jimmey__BearKnuckle, or he could open up his hard drive and start writing stuff with a magnet05:56
NikosGrand all of that caosue microsuck keeps ntfs code locked05:56
Jimmey__XoD05:56
slavikNoUse: I realize that05:56
ompaulthoreauputic, :-)05:56
slavikkorniche: check your messages05:56
slavikany of those?05:56
NoUsekorniche did you run the fdisk command I sent you?05:56
BearKnuckleYou can use the captive-driver to write to ntfs-filesystems, but you have to own a windows-license since this driver is using windows-drivers directly.05:56
kornicheNoUse , it was the partition magic that told that05:56
Gryzo1Fedora Core 5 had a "tab" in the screen settings to enable Dual Head, is there anything like that in Ubuntu 6.06?05:56
thoreauputic!captive05:56
uboturumour has it, captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.05:56
BearKnucklehttp://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/05:57
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thoreauputicBearKnuckle: see ubotu above05:57
kornicheslavik,  , nope , noone of those05:57
jonoanyone getting problems with a recent package upgrade with xserver-xorg ?05:57
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BearKnuckleYes, I saw to late, didn't know this is not usable in ubuntu.05:57
kornichehow can i know the system file on linux then ?05:57
jonoI am getting: /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/config: line 973: syntax error near unexpected token `)'05:57
XamDMkorniche, me to05:57
BearKnucklejono: Me too!05:57
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slavikit's ext3 if you don't know which one it is05:58
NoUsekorniche did you run the fdisk command I sent you?05:58
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visik7why iptables hasn't lib/iptables/libipt_ROUTE.so while debian has ? if debian has it I don't think it's a porting problem to other arch05:58
jonoBearKnuckle: ahhh, I figured it was just me05:58
visik7it's stupid to disable this module05:58
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BearKnucklejono: there is a rumor about a fix, but no explicit infos yet. I think we must wait.05:58
kornicheNoUse korniche what does 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' output? ==> this ?05:58
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NoUsekorniche yes05:58
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kornicheyeah i did now05:58
BearKnucklejono: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16641005:58
kornichei past it here ??05:58
NoUsekorniche no pastebin it05:59
konstandinoskslavik: "couldn't find package xorg-driver-fglrx" - now what? tutorial doesn't say what to do in that situation05:59
kornichehow ?05:59
slavikkorniche: no, paste tp pastebin05:59
NoUse!tell korniche about pastebin05:59
Hattorii'm experiencing this problem after the apt-get update/upgrade... how to solve please? http://pastebin.com/68319505:59
slavikkonstandinosk: hmmm05:59
mlehrerkonstandinosk: look at the package named linux-restricted-modules05:59
slavik!ati05:59
ubotuwell, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358905:59
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BearKnuckleOh my, a new apt-get dist-upgrade problem, the last upgrade wasn't tested intensivly enough, eh?06:00
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bembowhat flowchart program would you recommend (except dia)?06:00
bembo06:00
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NoUsebembo there a program called kivio06:01
slavikDraw?06:01
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Hattorii'm experiencing this problem after the apt-get update/upgrade... how to solve please? http://pastebin.com/68319506:01
slavikOOo2 Draw06:01
kornicheslavik,  , nouse , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d1293106:01
bemboNoUse, thanx i will  try it06:01
kornicheNoUse,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d1293106:02
DaneeBoyI have a question... I'm about to format and go back to Breezy from Dapper. I want to make a seperate home partition. I know how to tell the partitioner to mount a partition at /home. Does ubuntu automaticalyl regonize that home is on a seperate partition?06:02
jonoBearKnuckle: ok, I had a chat with a dev and he is onto it06:02
konstandinosk!linux-restricted-modules06:02
ubotukonstandinosk: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:02
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NoUsekorniche that means there is no partition on that disk06:02
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DaneeBoyI know.. I'm going to format and create the parition06:02
kornicheoh my god06:03
Jimmey__Guys, try /msg ubotu moo06:03
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slavik!moo06:03
ubotumoo is, like, totally, moo06:03
kornicheNoUse,  mean that there's no data then !!06:03
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NoUsekorniche doesn't look like it06:03
kornicheok06:03
DaneeBoyBasically i'm figuring on keeping a seperate partition for Dapper & Breezy and giving them each 10 GB but keeping my home parition seperate06:03
kornicheBrB06:03
kornichei'll reboot on the SCSI hard disk06:04
kornicheto check !!06:04
kornichesee ya , and thx for ur help !!06:04
Jimmey__DaneeBoy, smart idea :S I should've thought of that06:04
slavikJimmey__: and waste 10gb? it can be used for better purposes ;)06:04
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Hattorii'm experiencing this problem after the apt-get update/upgrade... how to solve please? http://pastebin.com/68319506:04
Jimmey__ubotu, tell slavik about moo06:04
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DaneeBoyJimmey_: I read it on the forums but cannot find the link that explaned how to make ubuntu mount the /home parition on boot06:05
Jimmey__Ask slavik, he knows everything06:05
slavikHattori Hanzo ... you are missing MySQL ...06:05
DaneeBoyReally? ^.^?06:05
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Jimmey__I'm betting slavik knows06:05
Hattorislavik, the package got upgraded06:06
NikosGrlets suppose we could in fact write to ntfs volumes06:06
Hattoriprobably..06:06
slavikJimmey__: if I knew half of what you think I know ... you would welcome your new knowledgeable overlord :D06:06
NikosGris this correct?06:06
NikosGrnikos@dell:~$ cp korios.txt /dev/hdb3/korios.txt06:06
NikosGrcp: accessing `/dev/hdb3/korios.txt': Not a directory06:06
Jimmey__( He's been here, helping people, non-stop, for hours )06:06
jonoBearKnuckle: ok a fix has been uploaded, just wait a while until it is resolved06:06
slavikHattori: re-install it06:06
NikosGrsorry i meant this: cp korios.txt /dev/hdb3/06:06
DaneeBoythen he is a generous man! :)06:06
slavikI am about to leave06:06
farruinnMy iPod isn't being mounted automatically anymore. This happen to anyone else?06:06
NikosGrand the hdd is mounted06:06
slavikschool work ... :(06:06
NikosGrno no06:07
Jimmey__slavik, how old're you?06:07
NikosGri must used a mount point sorry06:07
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slavik2006:07
Jimmey__Good06:07
slavikgoing to be 21 soon :D06:07
Hattoriwhat packages exactly?06:07
thoreauputicNikosGr: you don't copy to a device - you copy to the mount point of the device06:07
slavikgoing to get wasted and such06:07
slavikhopefully06:07
Jimmey__When you are: Happy birthday06:07
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slavikin a month06:07
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slavikJimmey__: I prefer a million dollars :P06:07
BearKnucklejono: thx for the info!06:07
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krackerquestion: i am running firefox but don't have java recognized to be used in the browser but ... i have a manualy installed the java runtime engine (tested and working :)06:08
slavikif I had a million res nodes ... I would buy you a house ...06:08
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krackerhow can i connect the two parts to get java running in mozilla06:08
useronethis is an openoffice Draw problem: does anyone know how to stop 'connectors' from snapping to the centre of boxes?06:08
thoreauputic!tell kracker  about java06:08
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slavikkracker: did you isntall java from sun's web site? I followed their guide and it worked (involved making a symlink)06:08
krackeryes06:08
krackerslavik, yes, i used it to run ghantt charts :)06:09
slavikfollow their mozilla guide ...06:09
krackerhmmm, ok, know of a link?06:09
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NikosGrhow does a mount point is any different that the device?06:10
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slavikkracker: no ... just go to java.com and then follow signs to manual install06:11
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slavikNikosGr: what is the difference between C:\ and the actual drive?06:11
starzingerNikosGr: The device is the hardware, the mountpoint is just where you want to access your data from06:11
DBONikosGr, what is your question, its not very clear?06:11
Jimmey__!gr06:11
ubotuhmm... gr is #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia ellhnes xrhstes06:11
starzingerYou can mount the same device in different mountpoints06:11
useroneany help with the Draw problem?06:11
krackerslavik, nods ok06:11
DBOstarzinger, not at the same time...06:12
slavikuserone: dunno ... why wouldn't you want it to snap to center06:12
farruinnAnyone knows what causes an iPod to mount automatically? Mine isn't getting mounted anymore.06:12
slavikbrb, need to check if hot water is back06:12
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starzingerDBO: You can mount the same harddrive in different mountpoints06:12
NikosGrStavlik yes i didn think of it this way..yeah...c:\ is windows mount point as well06:12
slavikfarruinn: I would search the forums...06:12
slavik:)06:12
NikosGrbut in linux we can choose where we want our devices mounted06:12
NikosGrwhile in windows we cant06:13
slavikyou can in windows, too06:13
DBOif you know where to look =)06:13
slavikyou can have your D: drive as a folder ...06:13
NikosGrhehe06:13
DBObut I think C: is pretty well hardcoded in06:13
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slavikDBO: so is /06:13
slavik:P06:13
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useroneslavik: I want 3 arrows going into one side of the box. They are from different functions (in a flowchart) so I need each arrowhead to be seperate. (Same for all sides of the box)06:13
NikosGryou mean that in instalaltion time i could be choose to install win to d:\06:13
starzinger/dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)06:13
farruinnslavik: Thanks - I just realized that it might be caused by the new kernel I installed last night06:13
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starzinger/dev/hda1 on /mnt/temp type ext3 (rw)06:13
DBOslavik, point06:13
slavikuserone: I see, but I dunno the answer ...06:13
slavikfarruinn: makes sense06:14
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slavikNikosGr: no06:14
useroneslavik: any idea where I could look? I went to the Openoffice.org site and it directed me here!06:14
slaviksame as you can't instal linux into other places besides /06:14
BearKnucklenikosgr: Windows definetly wants itself installed on the primary harddisk in the primary partition, maybe you can overcome this, but it's not recommended I think!06:14
slavikuserone: did you try the openoffice forums?06:14
slavikand what BearKnuckle said06:15
NikosGrBearKnuckle: yeah xp is very greedy06:15
useroneslavik: do you have a link?06:15
_jasonuserone: there is also #openoffice.org06:15
slavikand in *nix, you  can have your root partition half way across the world ...06:15
slavikuserone: no ... it's in their support page06:15
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slavik_jason: NM > *06:16
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slavik:D06:16
slavikoh, and beagle :D06:16
BearKnuckleslavik: What a cool idea, I set up a system using one folder on every continent... that's what would be "ubuntu". :D06:16
userone_jason: slavik: thanks..let me try that...06:16
slavikBearKnuckle: yup ... windows can't touch that06:16
slavik:P06:16
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userone_jason: I just checked the server list, #openoffice.org is not listed?06:18
slavikheh06:18
tombshi all06:18
_jasonuserone: I'm in it right now06:18
BearKnuckleuserone: Not in the list does not mean it's not there!06:18
BearKnuckleYou can hide channels.06:18
userone_jason: ok..so silly question..how do I connect to it!? :-)06:18
slavikholy crap, man ... beagle is so powerful it is scary06:19
_jasonuserone: /join #openoffice.org06:19
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slavik_jason: the new network status icon is teh crap IMO06:19
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_jasonslavik: yeah, I don't like it much either06:19
slavikand old one knew the diff between wired and wireless06:20
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BockBilbohello06:21
slavikhi06:22
sys8794is there a way to use the live cd on a win machine and access the win dirs to alter files )temp,temp internet. etc) to solve win issues ?06:22
NoUsesys8794 you can only alter it if it's not an NTFS drive06:22
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LabThugI have a laptop running ubuntu (Dapper).  How do I get my X session to display through the connected projector?06:23
sys8794so if ntfs then there is no way to access data to alter it?  I do repairs on some win boxes and thought when they wouldnt boot that I could live in like that?06:23
LabThugI can get the projector to pickup tty 1-6, but it never sees what's on tty706:23
NoUseLabThug thats usually done through the Fn+something on laptops06:23
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Hattorii'm experiencing this problem after the apt-get update/upgrade... how to solve please? http://pastebin.com/68319506:23
LabThugNoUse: the projector can see the screen during the bootup.  As soon as X starts, the projector no longer recieves information06:24
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LabThugbecause of this, Fn isn't the issue :-)06:24
BockBilboi have a problem when trying to halt the system; the system instead of halt, reboots06:24
NoUseLabThug I wouldn't be so sure06:24
BockBilboany idea  of why this can be?06:24
NoUseLabThug I've seen the same thing happen, Fn+F7 (for me) fixed it06:24
LabThugBockBilbo: try `shutdown -h`06:25
NoUseHattori what program are you trying to run?06:25
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LabThugNoUse: which type of laptop?  Mine is a Dell Latitude06:25
NoUseI have a Thinkpad06:25
cpl-tnt900is there's a guide to all those linux command in the terminal !?06:25
BockBilbolets see La_PaRCa06:25
slavikcpl-tnt900: man06:25
BockBilboi meant LabThug06:25
slavikman = manual06:26
NikosGr                           SO YOUA RE SAYING THAT I CAN HAVE A DEVICE IN AFRICA and mount here on my pc in thessaloniki, greece`1?06:26
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slavikso 'man print' will give you the manual page on 'print'06:26
slavikNikosGr: yes06:26
slavikNikosGr: if there is a network connection06:26
jobezonecpl-tnt900: http://www.linuxcommand.org/06:26
BearKnucklesys8794: I think Knoppix has captive-support, but ubuntu has not, at least I know there were knoppix-releases which had ntfs-write-support.06:26
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slavikbut performance is going to be slow06:26
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NikosGrslavik: for example could you try now to mount my root partition upon your hard drive?06:27
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LabThugNoUse: I did try pressing Fn+F8 a bunch of times.  The closest I could get was nada06:28
NoUseLabThug google around06:28
sys8794bearknuckle couldnt I create a mnt point to the win dir and access it through that? nm your right that would only give me read optition not write also06:28
sys8794do you think that the 4.0 knop had it?06:28
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NikosGrima tryting to install vidalia and it is dependand on06:29
NikosGrMake sure you have Qt 4.1 and Tor 0.1.1.13 or later installed.06:29
LabThugNoUse: I am :-D06:29
slavikNikosGr: you can only try ... I am not giving out access to my 'video' to anyone ... yet06:29
NikosGrhow do i know if at least i ahve Qt 4.1 installed?06:29
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slavikNikosGr: through synaptic06:29
vincent__Hi all06:29
sys8794I have 3.1 to 4.0 so one of them should. do you know if ubuntu is ever going to incorp ntfs r/w function within the live envioroment?06:29
NikosGrslavik i can give you access if you want06:29
slaviknah06:29
cpl-tnt900jobezone 10x06:29
jobezonesys8794: I think the next knoppix will be able to write to ntfs by default, but it isn't released yet. It was shown at Cebit, I think. I know this, because I wanted to do what you want now a week ago, when a winXP system of mine got screwed.06:30
NikosGrslavik by console with apt-get hwo do i check if i ahve a apckage installed?06:30
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slavikNikosGr: apt-cache I think06:30
slavikapt-get and apt-cache06:30
slavikman them :P06:30
NikosGrapt-cache search Qt ?06:31
jobezonecpl-tnt900: Also have a look at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com . I'm sure there are good command line (shell) tutorials there.06:31
sys8794jobezone lol I been wanting to do this for bout a month now...just today I have started this path06:31
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BockBilboLabThug, doesnt work06:31
BockBilboi bet it is something related with the bios..06:31
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vincent__I need help with external harddrive (again)06:31
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vincent__my dmesg is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1293306:31
NikosGrit scrolled06:31
sys8794does anyone know if ubuntu will every incorp ntfs r/w func within its live cd?06:31
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vincent__ntfs rw ?? lol !06:32
sys8794ntfs read/write06:32
jobezonesys8794: I eventually caved in, backed up all my stuff (with a LiveCD), reinstalled XP, and sweared I would never install it in my computer (it was a friend's).06:32
sys8794from the live cd lol06:32
thoreauputic!ntfs06:32
ubotufrom memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions06:32
sys8794jobezone haha I know the feeling06:32
vincent__hh.. try kaptive.. but make backups before !06:32
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NikosGrwhen i issue a search with synaptic does it search locally on my hdd for the package or only in the remote repository?06:33
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thoreauputicbah the factoid doesn't mention that rw to ntfs is not supported06:33
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jobezonesys8794: there is something called captive-ntfs, but I've never tried it.06:33
vincent__on repos that you set up in synaptic06:33
cahill_johnhi ppl06:33
Caminomasterhello people06:33
sys8794vincent__ you are saying that with kaptive I can run live cd and alter (r/w ntfs files)?06:33
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vincent__no, not on live CD..06:34
Caminomasterdoes dapper support write access on NTFS??06:34
axismesys8794, you cant write to ntfs06:34
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alekhi06:34
sys8794jobezone cool I will look into it06:34
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thoreauputicNikosGr: it searches the list of available packages - the list is local, on your hard drive06:34
axismeyou cant do it even if you install it06:34
vincent__but kaptive (or captive) allows ntfs rw.. but it is really hazardous..06:34
NoUseCaminomaster no06:34
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aleki want to run *.bin file from console. how to do it?06:34
Caminomasterthanks, NoUse06:34
vincent__I need help with external harddrive (again)06:34
Fractureis it possible to use espresso to install dapper onto a lvm partition ?06:35
vincent__my dmesg is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1293306:35
axismea bin is an image ...06:35
NikosGrthoreauputic: so the search mus inform me if i already have the package right?06:35
kingspawnalek: sure you can run that .bin?06:35
axismeyour supposed to burn it to disc06:35
alekyes Im sure. when I dobuleclicked it, it runs06:35
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alekbut I dont know how to do it in console06:35
thoreauputicNikosGr: the seach won't, but the listing in synaptic shows what is installed06:35
Caminomasternew question: how to recover my damaged breezy installation? somebody was playing with security and now my system is wrong, i want to fix current installation not reinstalling it06:35
thoreauputicNikosGr: or do dpkg -l packagename06:36
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NikosGrthoreauputic: iam alitel confused06:36
kingspawnalek: just get into the directory it is in, and type ./file.bin06:36
NikosGrhow do i know through synaptic if i already have a package?06:36
thoreauputicalek:  ./filename.bin06:36
kingspawnNikosGr: its marked with a green checkbox-thingy06:36
sys8794jobezone and vincent__ thanks for the info I got a dummmy machine I am going to go try that on, I will report back on the status as soon as I get a chance06:36
Caminomasterthere's an option that let me do that from install or live cds?06:36
NoUsevincent__ this guy seems to have the same problem and he has a workaround http://hallx049.oit.umn.edu/linux/laptops/tp-r40/06:36
vincent__the button will be green next to name of install pkg06:36
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krackeri have the jre installed at: /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so06:37
thoreauputicNikosGr: seach for it, and see if it is marked as installed06:37
krackeri have created a symlink to the plugin (in the jre dir) at: /home/jack/.firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so06:37
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krackeryet, firefox still acts like java is not installed or recognized06:37
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kornichere all06:37
NikosGrAh! good! now i understannd06:37
kracker i followed the doc instructions at : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-ef347c277a133b64af0600bd1bf24bc64e7038b806:37
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krackeri also followed the instructions at: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html#Java06:37
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thoreauputicNikosGr: in the terminal, you can do for instanec,   apt-cache policy your-package (tells you what is installed, what section etc for that package)06:38
Caminomasterhow to recover a damaged installation from install or live cd?06:38
alekit works thanks!06:38
krackerand _still_ after restarting firefox i can not seem to have firefox recognize the java plugin06:38
kornicheNoUse,  r u there ?06:38
NikosGrsynapci will show to me all search results for what iam lookign for but will also mark as green if i ahve the package in my system. otherisw if tis empty and lcik in it then it will be downlaoed for me06:38
thoreauputic*instance06:38
Beawolfeslavick ....still around the keyboard?06:38
NoUsekorniche yeah06:38
kornicheNoUse,  , there's still datas inside the hard disk06:38
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slavikyes, what?06:38
kornichethe system installed is Unix06:38
cahill_johnhi slavik06:38
kornicheslavik,06:38
slavikuh oh ...06:38
kornicheScoterm Open server TM06:39
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NikosGrdpkg = debian package ? ?06:39
cahill_johnTHANX LINUX IS WORKIN NOW06:39
NoUsekorniche what of file system is it?06:39
vincent__->NoUse - Wow ! rmmod ehci ???? but I need USB fast !!!06:39
jobezoneCaminomaster: depends on the "damage" itself.06:39
slavikkorniche: NEVER HEARD OF IT06:39
slavikcahill_john: good06:39
Beawolfeyou said breezy wont upgrade the new firefox is that true?06:39
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NoUsevincent__ I don't know06:39
kornicheslavik,  it's a really so old server06:39
slavikBeawolfe: yes06:39
slavikkorniche: back important data to a CD or something and then wipe the drive06:39
Beawolfewhat is the newset version breezy will handle?06:39
vincent__wow.. no soluce, just disabling EHCI ???06:40
NoUseslavik it's from SCO, thats why it isn't work :-)06:40
kornicheslavik,  , i couldn't know what system file is installed with06:40
slavik1.0.7 is what is in the repos06:40
vincent__lemme read this thread..06:40
slavik!firefoxnewversion06:40
ubotuslavik: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:40
slavik!ff1.506:40
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:40
kornicheslavik,  , this Scoterm Unix do not support USB or cds or anything ..06:40
slavikfollow that wiki guide for 1.506:40
NikosGrguys i need toc keck if i ahve this: Qt 4.1 must i dpkg -l 'Qt 4.1' ?06:40
NikosGris thsi correct?06:40
Hattorii'm experiencing this problem after the apt-get update/upgrade... how to solve please? http://pastebin.com/68319506:40
slavikkorniche ... then I dunno what to say ...06:40
slavikcan it connect to an ftp server?06:40
Caminomasterthe damage related is, trying to change the access of hidden files on my folder i typed "chmod -R 777 .*" but it modified all the system .* files :( then brother tryied to fix it and changed it to 644 i think, and now some things work bad06:41
slavikyou can set up an ftp server and have the OS transfer the files there06:41
slavikthen wipe it :D06:41
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kornicheslavik,06:41
vincent__HERES a question : If I hremove EHCI module & leave only OHCI, will I still have USB2 fast transfers?? this is for an external backup disk...06:41
cahill_johnon which server is icq located SLAVIK ??06:41
NikosGrthere are so many qt packages that i dotn know if they are Qt 4.106:42
slavikno idea ...06:42
kornicheslavik,  when the hard disk is on the server , other clients can get in with Telnet , but i couldn't copy data ..06:42
NoUsevincent__ you can test it, if it slows it down just reboot and it will fix itself06:42
cahill_johnhmmmmm06:42
slaviktelnet doesn't do file transfer06:42
NoUsevincent__ just dont' delet the module06:42
slavikuse ftp ...06:42
jobezoneCaminomaster: ahh06:42
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cahill_johnANYONE WHICH CRAP SERVER IS ICQ ON ?06:42
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NoUse!caps06:42
ubotuFYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.06:42
kornicheslavik,  how can i make it work with Ftp ?06:42
slavikwhy icq and not ftp?06:42
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konstandinoskHi I still can't get my ati card to work. Here is a detailed report of my problem for those who think they can help. I've dont a lot of research and am still stuck. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16644706:43
slavikyou set up an ftp server on another system and then have the old unix connect to it and then upload data06:43
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Caminomasterjobezone, it seems to be a very bad change to my system06:43
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Beawolfeokay got the link and the info....thanx!06:43
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jobezoneCaminomaster: so you would want your system to be re-installed, or fixed, leaving your personal files and configuration intact? The only way to do that would be to backup, and re-install.06:43
vincent__NoUse : Thx for that link.. I'm gonna simpluy drop the module... rmmod ehci_hcd & see what happens then..06:43
cpl-tnt900i have a quastion not related to ubunto else to windows xp : has anyone got the last update with the fucking blue microstar at the taskbar ? how can i fucken remove it !?06:43
kornicheslavik,  , easy to say :p06:43
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jobezoneCaminomaster: And next time you install ubuntu, make a separate partition for /home, so it's less troublesome if it happens again :)06:44
slavikkorniche: or, you set up a web server on this server drive and simply download the entire thing06:44
kornicheslavik,  , do u think that it's easy to do with such old system ? this scoterm  ?06:44
godishi everyone :)06:44
krackerslavik, i'm alreadying firefox 1.5+ using the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:44
jobezoneCaminomaster: I gotta go, good luck!06:44
slavikit should be able to do ftp ... ftp is old06:44
ruffneck_Can someone point me in the right direction for the differences in compiz-aiglx and compiz-vanilla ?06:44
vincent__How about that !!!06:45
vincent__It worked !!06:45
slavikgood06:45
vincent__Sooo....06:45
kornicheftp can it work with Intranet ?06:45
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vincent__OHCI & EHCI usb jst don't get along AT ALL !!!06:45
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NikosGrnikos@dell:~$ sudo echo "deb http://mirror.noreply.org/pub/tor dapper main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list06:45
NikosGrbash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied06:45
slavikkonstandinosk: use the wiki, there is a repo there provided by Seveas that has the ati driver06:45
NikosGrcan you see soemthign wrong?06:45
vincent__This should be reported somewhere ...06:45
Caminomasterjobezone06:46
vincent__on ubuntu forum or something of the likes06:46
Caminomasterjobezone, i see, thanks, i have that partition now06:46
slavikNikosGr: use pipe06:46
slavikinstead of |06:46
kornicheslavik,  ftp can it work with Intranet ?06:46
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slavikkorniche: no idea ...06:46
cpl-tnt900i have a quastion not related to ubunto else to windows xp : has anyone got the last update with the fucking blue microstar at the taskbar ? how can i fucken remove it !? - im refering to Guinuine Cdkey they require now ... (A CRAPY OS and they want money on it !!! BAH ! ! !! )06:46
kornicheok06:46
NikosGrbut i need the rediection to a file not to a command06:46
vincent__--->NoUse : Thanks for this info.. really life saver !06:46
kornichei think that there's no hope with my case :p06:46
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slavikoh, right06:46
slavikno clue then06:46
NoUsevincent__ I just plugged your error message into google06:47
kornicheslavik,  , do u know any partition viewer in windows ?06:47
XamDMcpl-tnt900, you should ask in a windows-forum .....06:47
unforcerI did  sudo rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives :/ I did not think that there was an partipal file in there. What to do?06:47
kornichesuch partition magic , that don't see Unix partition ? something else like it ?06:47
vincent__dammit, I did that, and didn't get that link at all06:47
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vincent__but I'm on google.fr06:47
vincent__:/06:48
petsciihola06:48
NikosGrslavik: cxan yous how me pleae?06:48
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NikosGri just want to append a line tou sources06:48
NoUsevincent__ you can add a line: "blacklist ehci_hcd" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" and it will keep it from loading at boot06:48
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slavikhmm06:48
NikosGrmy statement looks correct06:49
godishey does anyone of u know how to link my computer to my other comp ??? in a network'06:49
NikosGrbut it doesnt work06:49
vincent__Very nice of you to tell me.. I was gonna seach that one too.. thx NoUse !!06:49
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NoUsevincent__ no prob06:49
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godisr det ngn hr som pratar svenska??06:50
Patrick_HEY GUYS.06:50
Patrick_I HAVE A QUESTION.06:50
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Caminomasteri want to use some applications rom breezy on dapper, could it be possible?06:50
Patrick_IS ANYONE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER IT?06:50
TrunkzPatrik06:50
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Trunkzdont use caps please06:50
DoatPatrick_, caps off and someone might06:50
Patrick_OKAY.06:50
Patrick_I WILL TAKE THE CAPS OFF.06:50
sonork_Guys, i got the following problem, and this is somekinda confusing me: I downloaded ipod_fw.c (to get Rockbox-software on my ipod mini) then i tried to compile it using "gcc -o path/to/ipod_fw.c" the gcc output is: "gcc: no input files". this confuses me cuz it just worked yesterday but i erased the file,... can anyone of u compile it for me or gimme some help?06:50
Patrick_THANKS FOR THE SUGGESTION, GUYS.06:50
Trunkz...06:51
Patrick_A NEW USER LIKE MYSELF NEEDS TIPS LIKE THAT.06:51
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Doatcalm down06:51
kingspawnsonork_: gcc path/bla.c -o outfile06:51
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Hattorii'm experiencing this problem after the apt-get update/upgrade... how to solve please? http://pastebin.com/68319506:51
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konstandinoskslavik: is there any way i can set the apt-get install command to also look at my cdrom?06:51
Seveaskonstandinosk, apt-cdrom add06:51
konstandinosk(im not the ubuntu expert at all)06:51
konstandinoskok ill try that thnx06:51
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Hattori!mysql06:52
ubotuLinux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP06:52
slavikkonstandinosk: use synaptic06:52
slavikit's easier06:52
NikosGrapt-get update updates its current package list with the one of a remote repository?06:52
cahill_johnANYONE KNOWS WHICH SERVER ICQ IS ON?06:52
godisdoes anyone here know how i link my two comp with each other so i can run them in a network??06:52
cahill_johngodis try using a wifi06:52
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NikosGrwhile upgrade also updates packages?06:52
slavikNikosGr: seems like you have to do the sudo su trick06:53
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cahill_johnthanx again slavik06:53
konstandinoskslavik: what is synaptic?06:53
cahill_johnur advice was brilliant06:53
NikosGrslavik: i just did sudo -i and it worked06:53
slavikupgrade upgrades the packages, update updates the available packages list06:53
konstandinoskor how do i use it?06:53
NikosGrwhat trick are you talking?06:53
slavik!synaptic06:53
ubotusynaptic is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto06:53
cahill_johnsynaptic is touchpad06:53
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konstandinoskthankx06:53
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cahill_johnhey PPL ICQ SERVER PLZ06:53
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Patrick_HEY, THANKS FOR KICKING ME OUT.06:53
Patrick_I LEARNED A REAL LESSON TODAY.06:53
slavikNikosGr: whatever works I guess06:54
Patrick_DON'T ANNOY PEOPLE WITH THE CAPS LOCK ON.06:54
etmntI hope you did.06:54
godiscahill_john what is a wifi?? i new in this06:54
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_jasonubotu: tell Patrick_ about attitude06:54
slavikPatrick_: caps06:54
cahill_johninternet connection godis06:54
Patrick_OKAY, I'LL TURN THEM OFF RIGHT NOW.06:54
CaminomasterPtrick you seems to be working on calc or excel06:54
cahill_johnhowever u can set it up between 2 systems06:54
Patrick_THANKS AGAIN.06:54
CaminomasterPatrick you seems to be working on calc or excel06:54
godisok06:54
NikosGrslavik: yes it worked but what trickes were you talking? i must know06:54
Patrick_Actually, I'm on a Mac.06:54
godisthx06:54
Patrick_Intel iMacs rule.06:54
cahill_johndo u have wireness connection godix06:54
Caminomaster!attitude06:54
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.06:54
cahill_johnwireless*06:54
konstandinoskseveas: i mounted the cdrom (with the ubuntu live cd in it) and when i tried 'apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx' it instantly told me 'couldn't find package' -> is it possible that its not checking the cdrom drive at all?06:54
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CaminomasterXD06:55
Patrick_Ubotu, can i get a credit check in this room?06:55
ubotuPatrick_: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:55
konstandinosk(im going to try synaptic now)06:55
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cahill_johnHEY GODIS06:55
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Patrick_Can I get a credit check in here?06:55
Patrick_Hello?06:55
Patrick_Anyone?06:55
cahill_johnwireless connection, do u have 1?06:55
Inner|REwtf06:55
slavik!tell cahill_john about caps06:55
Patrick_I said Hello.06:55
CaminomasterPatrick, what do you mean with credit check?06:55
Patrick_Uh, hello?06:55
cahill_johnok slavik06:55
Caminomasterhello Patrick06:55
Patrick_Como Estas?06:55
slavikPatrick_: do you have a problem?06:55
CaminomasterPatrick be a bit be patient06:55
godisyes cahill john...06:55
Patrick_I think I have a problem with my credit06:55
cahill_johnbut can anyone tell me y my macromedia plugin shows no script in it06:56
Patrick_And thus it needs a check.06:56
Patrick_Hence, credit check.06:56
CaminomasterPatrick, do you speak spanish?06:56
problemanhello, i have problem installing ut2003demo on ubuntu x86_64. I'm running installer with linux32 but anyway have error: ./setup.sh: line 104:  5956 Przerwane               "$setup" "$@" 2>/dev/null06:56
problemanThe setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2. Anyone can help? :)06:56
Patrick_Mi Casa Su Casa06:56
slackernNot only thing needing to be checked06:56
cahill_johnbcoz i tried to login from their website06:56
farruinnCaminomaster: I don't think Patrick_ is here for help - just wait a moment and I'm sure he'll get kicked again06:56
slavik!ops06:56
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee06:56
Patrick_Guys! It's a serious question!06:56
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Patrick_I really need help with this problem.06:56
slavik!ask06:56
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.06:56
Doatprobably not on this channel06:56
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CaminomasterPatrick, this is an ubuntu IRC, if you need to talk about credit cards, go to the correct place06:56
etmntlol06:57
cahill_johnlol06:57
Patrick_Okay, THANKS CAMINO.06:57
DoatPatrick_, if you're trying to be funny, you're not06:57
Zoroasterdoes anyone know of a good linux network monitor?06:57
Patrick_I APPRECIATE IT!06:57
Mitzialt+f4 for credit card info06:57
slavikuse !ops to get an op's attention06:57
Patrick_GOODBYE06:57
NikosGrwill someoen help me install tor please?06:57
etmnthis name is Patrick, and he likes the caps.06:57
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slavikwhat Mitzi said06:57
konstandinoskseveas: i mounted the cdrom (with the ubuntu live cd in it) and when i tried 'apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx' it instantly told me 'couldn't find package' -> is it possible that its not checking the cdrom drive at all?06:57
slavikpeace all06:57
NikosGrhttp://mirror.noreply.org/pub/tor/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found06:58
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Psikosishello !06:58
Psikosisi love ubuntu!06:58
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Doatlol06:58
_harmwhats should i enter to connect to hotmail server pop3 and then whats the server adress?06:58
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AnsiCuff06:59
Sodiumwhich software is similar to DVD shrink to copy DVD movies?06:59
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Caminomasterhello Psikosis06:59
AnsiCfuck binutils06:59
ruffneck_hi guys, how can u tell what was the last thing you installed using apt-cache or something of the like?06:59
AnsiCglibc and gcc and all configuraitions file06:59
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holohi06:59
Seveaskonstandinosk, the ubuntu live cd has no packages on it06:59
rabeHello, I just compiled a program successfully (i think), but I don't have any shortcut to it in the panel !? How to add one?06:59
kingspawnAnsiC: whats the matter?06:59
farruinn_harm: it would be pop.hotmail.com or semething like that06:59
holoi'm having trouble with esound. i can't send audio format to stream. i'm using xmms with plugin and connecting remotly07:00
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holoi can play in localhost07:00
AnsiCi'm tring to create a chroot enviroment07:00
konstandinoskseveas: ok so if i want to get fglrx, and i cant connect the the internet, my only option is to get the full breezy package cd (which i can do)?07:00
AnsiCinstall into chroot enviroment all tool for building programs07:00
AnsiCbuild07:00
Seveaskonstandinosk, yes07:00
konstandinoskok thanks07:00
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AnsiCbut LFS book create much caos in my head07:00
farruinnrabe: Applications>System Tools>Applications menu editer07:00
konstandinoskone last quick question - i can get the full ubuntu (packages and all) on a dvd. is it easy to mount a dvd from command line?07:01
AnsiCthe sound is like that my system can create negative interferenc07:01
jobezoneI just checked, and it will be knoppix 5.0 that will have by default the ability to write to ntfs (using, I presume, captive-ntfs)07:01
Seveaskonstandinosk, just put it in, it will automount07:01
konstandinoskgreat. now i know what to do07:01
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konstandinoskthanks for your help07:02
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cvaI have a driver attached to a usb device, but throughout the day, the system seems to reset the usb devices, which causes my driver connection to be lost. http://pastebin.com/68332307:02
cvaany idea as to what would cause this?07:03
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gnu2it2how to disable gdm/xdm from stsrting on boot?07:04
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NoUsegnu2it2 via gui you can install bum and it gives you a dialgo to disable boot services07:06
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iloadminhello all07:06
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KoRniChere07:08
Dr_Willismoo07:09
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KoRniCheNoUse07:10
KoRniCher u there ?07:10
Dr_Willishmm?07:11
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NoUseKoRniChe yes07:12
NikosGrdeb http://mirror.noreply.org/pub/tor dapper main07:12
NikosGrthis is also ot workign 4u?07:12
KoRniChedo u know any program to view the partition ?07:12
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KoRniChelike partition magic ?07:13
thoreauputicgparted07:13
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NoUseKoRniChe if fdisk didn't see it, gparted probably won't07:13
thoreauputic!info gparted07:13
ubotugparted: (partition editor for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.0.8+cvs2005061901-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 236 kB, Installed size: 1260 kB07:13
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KoRniChesomething on windows i mean07:14
asdf__hi there07:14
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NoUseKoRniChe Partition magic is probably your best bet07:14
thoreauputic /join ##windows07:14
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asdf__i have a problem with s-video out07:15
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KoRniCheNoUse , the partition magic saw it .. and said that it's a Unix partition07:15
KoRniChebut i can't browse it07:15
thoreauputicKoRniChe: what are yo trying to do exactly?07:15
thoreauputic*you07:15
mzuverinkKoRniChe:I would not use partition magic, fire=burn07:15
ElazarWhy on the default MPlayer install do I get this error message on startup? "New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)"07:15
asdf__anybody can help me?07:16
NoUseElazar install mplayer-fonts07:16
KoRniChei've a hard disk , i need to back up datas from it , but it's Unix partion , so i can't see it from windows07:16
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thoreauputicElazar: install mplayer-fonts07:16
grahalI just installed linux-source package but I got a tar.bz2 file in /usr/src directory. Is that normal? Why wasn't the kernel source uncompressed?07:16
NoUseasdf__ if you explain your problem we can try07:16
ConfidentiaLwhat is the best torrent program for ubuntu?07:16
NoUsethoreauputic its a SCO OpenServer partiion, fdisk says there are no partitions on the disk but apparently PartMagic says there is07:17
mzuverinkIve got a usb 1 gig flash drive that i can read and write to but i cannot rename it or format it.  What do i need to do to be able to do those tasks?07:17
asdf__i have a nvidia gforce 440 and i can't use the tv out07:17
KoRniChemzuverink , do u have a link to donwload fireburn ?07:17
thoreauputicNoUse: oh, SCO :-(07:17
NoUsethoreauputic07:17
NoUseoops yeah07:17
NikosGrpleae tell me how do you issue comamnds to irc server through gaim?07:17
mzuverinkasdf__:read the nvidia manual, it is in the appedicies, it will explain what you need to edit and what to place in the file when editing07:17
mzuverinkKoRniChe: fireburn?07:18
KoRniChe[18:17]  <thoreauputic> NoUse: oh, SCO :-( ==> do u know this Sco Open server TM ?07:18
asdf__where is the nvidia manual07:18
thoreauputicNikosGr: gaim is pretty limited for IRC - try xchat is my advice07:18
NikosGrok ill try irssi07:18
NoUseKoRniChe SCO has been suing IBM for the last 4 years claiming they own Linux07:18
ElazarNoUse, thoreauputic: Hm... odd how it doesn't include that as a dependency. Thanks guys. :P07:18
NoUseKoRniChe they are evil07:18
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ConfidentiaLwhat is the best torrent program for ubuntu?07:19
mzuverinkKoRniChe: I was stating that you need to be careful with Partition Magic, it is like playing with fire, yo will get burned07:19
NikosGrthoreauputic: what are you sing?07:19
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thoreauputicKoRniChe:  SCO is the company that claimed Linux is a derivative of Unix and is continuing to sue IBM - where have you been for the last 3 years ?07:19
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thoreauputic*grin*07:19
rabehello, the package manager is bothering me with an "update" of firefox to 1.0.8, i have however the 1.5.0.2 (in Breezy). How to make it STOP asking for updates for a specific app (in this case firefox)?07:19
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Seveas@nick Ubugtu07:19
Elazarrabe: Just go ahead and install it. It won't overwrite your 1.5.0.2 install.07:19
rabewill is not mix up my shortcuts or so?07:20
Hattorii'm experiencing this problem after the apt-get update/upgrade... how to solve please? http://pastebin.com/68319507:20
Hattorifollowed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP but still got same problem07:20
Elazarrabe: No. I've done it.07:20
rabeok then07:20
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thoreauputic!tell rabe about ff1.507:21
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rabe???07:21
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rabei have ff1.507:21
NikosGris there a way to make an rpm packge to work to ubuntu?07:21
_jasonHattori: what version of ubuntu are you using?07:21
NikosGrwill be instaleld ok?07:21
Hattoridapper07:21
Hattoriafter update/upgrade07:21
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_jasonHattori: please use #ubuntu+1 for dapper support07:21
Hattoriworked before update/upgrade07:21
asdf__where can i find the nvidia manual07:21
Elazarrabe: If you followed those instructions already, then just install the update you're being prompted to install.07:21
MonsieurBonhello07:21
thoreauputicrabe: updating ff 1.0.7 to 1.0.8 won't break anything if you followed the wiki above07:22
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MonsieurBonhow do I double the space between letters of an existing ttf with fontforge?07:22
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thoreauputicMonsieurBon: sounds a bit specialised for a general ubuntu channel07:23
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rabe07:23
MonsieurBonthoreauputic, true, but there's no fontforge channel...07:23
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thoreauputicah07:23
korrrKoRniChe07:23
|lostbyte|Hi ! how to shutdown wlan0 ?07:23
whaley_workhave you guys seen this, someone is doing a starcraft port in mono: http://squeedlyspooch.com/blog/archives/002040.html07:23
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korrr[18:18]  <mzuverink> KoRniChe: fireburn?07:23
korrr[18:18]  <KoRniChe> [18:17]  <thoreauputic> NoUse: oh, SCO :-( ==> do u know this Sco Open server TM ?07:23
korrr[18:18]  <KoRniChe> mzuverink ?? [18:15]  <mzuverink> KoRniChe:I would not use partition magic, fire=burn07:23
korrr??07:24
thoreauputic|lostbyte|: sudo ifdown wlan0  ?07:24
NikosGrdoes anyone form here has tor instaleld?07:24
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mojohello party people.  i have had my first kernel panic.  isn't that fun?  I upgraded from breezy to dapper using the update manager (gksudo update-manager -d).  Luckily I have a amd64 install to play with on a different partition.  But thanks to macromedia I can't really just start up and using this install daily yet.  Anyone got some advice for me?   I have never had a kernel panic before.07:24
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mojosudo ifdown wlan0 (?)07:24
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korrrNoUse : http://experts.about.com/q/Unix-Linux-OS-1064/Viewing-SCO-OpenServer-Partition.htm07:25
|lostbyte|thoreauputic: tx, which line tells me if the if is down ?07:25
NikosGrWILL SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME FIND AND INSTALL tOR?07:25
thoreauputic|lostbyte|:  ifconfig07:25
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SeveasNikosGr, drop the caps07:25
thoreauputicNikosGr: patience07:25
NoUse!tell NikosGr about caps07:25
NikosGrok07:25
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mojoNikosGr, yeah, but not on this install... it has been runnin on breezy for me for a long time with no real problems or interaction really.  I use privoxy and fast proxy switch plugin in firefox to go "stealth"07:25
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thoreauputic!patience07:25
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.07:25
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|lostbyte|thoreauputic: huh ? i think you mean iwconfig..07:26
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NikosGrmojo: yes but Tor in conjuction with freecap can sockify every network aplication to go stealth behind a series of proxies07:26
tucozhello. Is it possible to make rythmbox not scan my mp3-player each time I plug it in?07:26
thoreauputic|lostbyte|: whatever - ifconfig shows all interfaces07:26
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tucoz*rhythmbox07:26
thoreauputicafaik07:26
korrrNoUse , saw the link ?07:26
|lostbyte|thoreauputic: yeah ! i see it.. but i want to know which line tells me if my wifi lan is on line or ofline ?07:27
korrrNoUse : http://experts.about.com/q/Unix-Linux-OS-1064/Viewing-SCO-OpenServer-Partition.htm07:27
mojoNikosGr, freecap????07:27
NikosGra proxyfying tool07:27
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RugHowdy all07:27
NikosGrit can make very aplication fo your to use proxies07:27
CarlFKapt-get upgrade... "The following packages have been kept back:  linux-image-686" - how do I upgrade it?07:27
coda_Does anyone have any experience getting dual monitors to work with Dapper x86_64 with the fglrx drivers? fireglcontrol doesn't save any changes for me.07:27
thoreauputic|lostbyte|: the inet line I suppose07:27
NikosGrwithout you having to configure each one07:27
|lostbyte|thoreauputic: ifconfig does'nt show my wlan0, where as iwconfig shows..07:27
korrrthoreauputic : http://experts.about.com/q/Unix-Linux-OS-1064/Viewing-SCO-OpenServer-Partition.htm07:27
NikosGrand even if applications dot work with procies07:27
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mojoNikosGr, ok... I will look that up07:28
NikosGrwww.freecap.org07:28
mojothanks07:28
NikosGri use it in xp all th time07:28
NikosGrin conjuction with Vidalia07:28
thoreauputickorrr: sorry, I know nothing about SCO and frankly I don't want to know - they are the scum of the earth07:28
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NikosGrvidalia is a cross platform Tor monitoring gui07:28
korrrlol thoreauputic :pp07:28
NikosGrmojo: you shoul really try this out07:28
korrrthoreauputic , do u think that i'd like to know me too ? just that's my work , save datas :p07:29
|lostbyte|thoreauputic: :) ok.. one more thing.. what do i do if i want to apply the configuration of the /etc/network/interfaces config07:29
NoUsekorrr the problem is Linux isn't seeing the partition, so it can't read it07:29
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mojoNikosGr, okay.  um okay.  I guess I still have a bit to learn about the sockets with tor07:29
NoUsekorrr I think you should try to FTP the files off07:29
thoreauputickorrr: understood :)07:29
baconbaconanybody knows/remembers how to enable gpg signing in gedit?07:29
NikosGrmojo anyway man i can insall tor here in ubunty07:29
_jasonbaconbacon: install seahorse and enable the plugin in gedit's preferences07:29
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baconbaconseahorse that's it07:30
NikosGrapt-get doesn fidn it even though i have appaened a surces.list07:30
NikosGrthat i found on google07:30
NikosGr:(07:30
thoreauputic|lostbyte|: I don't understand what you mean07:30
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NikosGrdeb http://mirror.noreply.org/pub/tor dapper main07:30
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NikosGrthis supposed to have helped me find it but it doesnt07:30
arnold84Hi i have a problem whne mounting an usb penn07:30
|lostbyte|thoreauputic: if you look in your /etc/network/interfaces file you will see that your network info is writen there which takes effect at boot. but i have made changes to it and it want to apply it :)07:31
arnold84mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda,07:31
arnold84       missing codepage or other error07:31
arnold84       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try07:31
arnold84       dmesg | tail  or so07:31
arnold84mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda,07:31
arnold84       missing codepage or other error07:31
arnold84       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try07:31
thoreauputicNikosGr: did you put that line in /etc/apt/sources.list and run sudo apt-get update ?07:31
arnold84       dmesg | tail  or so07:31
arnold84Error: could not execute pmount07:31
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Rug!pastebin07:31
ubotupastebin is, like, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126907:31
NoUse!tell arnold84 about paste07:31
arnold84Sry for floodin07:31
senjinhello i was trying to instal a prog but when doing the make command this text appears senjin@c-3e84e155:~/desktopa/opendchub-0.7.15$ make07:31
senjinbash: make: command not found07:31
senjin what shall i do07:31
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arnold84Sorry!!07:31
NikosGrthoreauputic: exactly07:31
thoreauputicarnold84: never do that again07:31
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polpaksenjin, sudo apt-get install build-essential07:31
arnold84i wont07:31
|lostbyte|thoreauputic: Did you get me yet ?07:31
thoreauputicarnold84: you'd better not ;)07:32
arnold84:-)07:32
NoUsearnold84 does 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' output anything?07:32
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IceToxI think I've tried like every tip on the ubuntuforums.org, but still I can't get my layout for norwegian.. I'm not able to write the three extra characters (letters) that we have in our langugage, nor does the previous keyboard shortcuts I set while installing work..07:32
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thoreauputic|lostbyte|:  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart07:32
senjinwere do i then check what the esntials are?07:32
thoreauputicI think07:32
korrrNoUse07:32
korrrthoreauputic07:32
korrri found a solution :p07:32
NikosGris there a way to install an .rpm on ubuntu?07:32
NoUsekorrr cool07:32
polpak!rpm07:32
ubotumethinks rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien07:32
thoreauputickorrr: aha !07:32
arnold84yep07:32
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NikosGr!alien07:33
ubotu[alien]  a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Its use is discouraged, as it could create serious problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/07:33
korrri've the norton ghost 2005 , i'm making a clone of the hard disk in one file on another hard disk07:33
polpaksenjin, it will install make, gcc, autoconf, etc07:33
mojoSO:  Anyone want to take on a KERNEL PANIC after a Breezy=>Dapper upgrade??  I am a KP virgin so be gentle!07:33
roryysenjin: build-essential is the package; installing that will automatically install compilers etc07:33
arnold84it seems okay, it finds the usbpen07:33
polpakNikosGr, what rpm are you trying to install?07:33
|lostbyte|thoreauputic: k07:33
roryysenjin: if you care, you can run 'apt-cache depends build-essential'07:33
NikosGri see07:33
korrrand , i've a clone viewer so i can see what files are in my backup07:33
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NoUsearnold84 usually usb pens just show up on the gnome desktop07:33
korrri think that it's a solution no ?07:33
NoUsearnold84 what did fdisk show? put it in pastebin07:33
korrrwhat do u think thoreauputic NoUse ?07:33
korrr:p07:33
arnold84i know, and i never got the problem before07:33
thoreauputickorrr: I guess cloning it should work07:34
polpakarnold84, it may have an odd filesystem, you can always reformat/partition and it should work07:34
NoUsekorrr how are you going to read the cloned image?07:34
korrrthoreauputic , i'll be back with results soon :p07:34
korrrsee ya07:34
IceToxI think I've tried like every tip on the ubuntuforums.org, but still I can't get my layout for norwegian.. I'm not able to write the three extra characters (letters) that we have in our langugage, nor does the previous keyboard shortcuts I set while installing work..07:34
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korrrNoUse , there's a Norton Ghost Explorer integrated with Norton Ghost 200507:35
NoUsekorrr ok07:35
korrrBrB07:35
senjinthx for the help i am instaling the pagages now07:35
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arnold84It an has some valuble data07:35
arnold84valueble07:35
arnold84damn!07:35
arnold84Cant spell!!:-)07:35
thoreauputicarnold84: typos are acceptable ;-)07:36
NikosGricant vene perform a whois through gaim?07:36
mojoNikosGr, I could not find www.freecap.org but I found http://www.freecap.ru/eng/ instead.  Same thing, right?07:36
NikosGryeah thas it, my mistake07:36
NikosGrsorry07:36
thoreauputicNikosGr: as I told you, gaim is limited for IRC07:36
NikosGryes but now veen i whois....07:36
arnold84should i edit fstab?07:37
thoreauputicNikosGr: I recommend you use another client - maybe xchat07:37
Rugarnold84: no07:37
polpakarnold84, for the usb drive? no07:37
NikosGrthoreauputic: well xhat is very ugly07:37
arnold84.....07:37
NikosGrin ubuntu gnome07:37
NikosGri dotn know why07:37
thoreauputicNikosGr: your decision07:37
NikosGrother xchat wher more beautifull07:37
arnold84i got no idea what to do:-(07:37
NikosGristn there a ncie gui?07:37
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polpakarnold84, did you pastebin the output of the command sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda    ?07:38
Rugarnold84: can a Windows box read it?07:38
thoreauputicNikosGr: you made the choice to prefer beauty over functionality :)07:38
IceToxI think I've tried like every tip possible, but still I can't get my layout for norwegian.. I'm not able to write the three extra characters (letters) that we have in our langugage, nor does the previous keyboard shortcuts I set while installing work.. Do you guys think about anything I might have missed? I've edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf and I've tried editing it with the keyboard manger thingie on the menu.07:38
NoUsearnold84 does it show up in System->Admin->Disks?07:38
NikosGrthoreauputic: well i prefer both07:38
thoreauputicIceTox: stop repeating please07:38
arnold84windows rerad fine. The same does my ubuntu box at home07:38
NikosGrill conenct through irssi07:38
NikosGr:)07:38
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RugNikosGr: Irssi is da bomb07:38
IceToxsorry then thoreauputic, just wanted to edit it, to having mroe infromation07:39
thoreauputicIceTox: once every ten minutes or so might be OK07:39
NikosGryeah!07:39
IceToxsure thoreauputic :-)07:39
thoreauputicIceTox: I guess currently no one knows how to help you07:39
mojoNikosGr, Hey man, that FreeCap thing looks like it is a Microsoft Windows program.  I am strictly Linux here (Ubuntu).  Is there something else I should be looking at or is there a Linux version?  Windows stuff does nothing for me (except give me headaches)07:39
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polpakmojo, what are you trying to do?07:39
Rug=)07:39
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arnold84it is pastes07:40
arnold84d07:40
kIOskis there an idnet daemon integrated in ubuntu ?07:40
polpakarnold84, then give us the url =)07:40
polpakkIOsk, not by default I'm pretty sure07:41
arnold84http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1293507:41
thoreauputickIOsk: I think you mean ident - and no, not bydefault07:41
arnold84Damn it kinda slow today07:41
kIOskpolpak,  is there any advice ?07:41
mojopolpak, well NikosGr was asking about tor and I told him I run it (ubuntu/breezy).  He told me about freecap but looking into it I believe it is a Windows program.  GPL yes, but not a Linux thing.  I am REALLY here because I have a KERNEL PANIC after Breezy-Dapper upgrade and am stuck07:41
NoUsearnold84 when you call pmount, you have to use /dev/sda1, not /dev/sda07:41
thoreauputicmojo: try #ubuntu+1 for dapper problems07:41
pequatrehi. Would anyone be kind enough to direct me to the repository where i can find linux-headers-2.6.15.386" ? i've just upgraded from flight-5 to Beta. thx.07:42
mojothoreauputic, hey thank you, I didn't know about that (cuz i'm too retarded today to read the channel tagline)07:42
Rugpequatre: if you have Dapper related questions you should try #ubuntu+107:42
mojoPeace on Men and Good Will toward Earth!  I'll hop to the dapper support .  LATER!07:43
thoreauputic!info dapper linux-headers-2.6.15.38607:43
pequatretypo: 2.6.15.20.38607:43
arnold84if i use sda1 nothing happens07:43
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pequatrethx thoreauputic07:43
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thoreauputichmm wrong syntax07:43
NoUsearnold84 you mean pmount didn't output anything?07:43
arnold84Yes07:43
NoUsearnold84 that means it worked07:43
pequatre!info dapper linux-header07:43
NoUsearnold84 have you checked your mount table?07:43
pequatre!info dapper07:44
pequatre!info linux-header07:44
arnold84where to find?07:44
NoUsearnold84 run 'mount'07:44
davidXi'm having problems with xserver-xorg on dapper07:44
pequatre!info linux-header-2.6.15-20.38607:44
pequatre!info linux-headers-2.6.15-20.38607:45
thoreauputicpequatre: the packagename is wrong07:45
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davidXerror on line 973 in /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/config07:45
NoUsedavidX #ubuntu+1 for dapper stuff07:45
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johnrorksorry for being a n00b, do i just jump in here?07:46
momo3instruction Google Adsense--> http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/Google.htm                 Download Firefox -->  http://planet.nana.co.il/hartk2003/FireFox7.htm07:46
momo3?!07:46
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NoUsejohnrork yeah, ask your question07:46
arnold84http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1293607:46
smaursup guys, my ubuntu install just fucked up while installing, now XP Pro on a seperate partition wont boot, shall i try reinstalling ubuntu and hope it finds the windows xp install?07:46
NoUsearnold84 so it's mounted07:46
johnrorkThanks, issues with 5.10, not getting an IP at all over ethernet on an IBm t2307:46
NoUsearnold84 although you shouldn't mount it at /mnt07:47
NoUsearnold84 should be something like /mnt/usbdisk07:47
thoreauputicpequatre:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)07:47
johnrorkFigured it would be driver-related, but it worked with whatever the preveious version was... hoary?07:47
arnold84still the smae mistake about the filesystem07:47
johnrorkand it works perfectly on my 1.67 PowerBook G407:47
pequatrethoreauputic, i'm currently using windows :(07:47
arnold84But in: admin-disks it finds it07:47
thoreauputicpequatre: well write the command down07:48
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farruinnjohnrork: You've configured and activated it through the network manager?07:48
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johnrorkYes07:48
thoreauputicpequatre: that will install headers for your running kernel07:48
wilycabque fue johnny ya entraste07:48
NoUsearnold84 its mounted07:48
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NoUsearnold84 what else are you trying to do?07:48
pequatre!info linux-headers-2.6.15-20-38607:48
Hattorii'm experiencing this problem after the apt-get update/upgrade... how to solve please? http://pastebin.com/68319507:48
Hattorifollowed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP but still got same problem07:48
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sonork_is there an ipod Software out there working with Linux and a 4GB Ipod Mini? anyone knows something?07:48
johnrorkbut it seems to be stuck on a self-assigned ip (127.xxx)07:48
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nalioththoreauputic: what's goin on in here?07:48
Patrick_HEY GUYS.07:49
thoreauputicpequatre: I already told you - that package name is wrong07:49
NoUse!ipod07:49
ubotuinfo for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto07:49
Patrick_I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.07:49
kingspawnpequatre: useful tidbit: just query ubotu, and write "info whatever" or just "whatever" (without the !) to get the info it has got07:49
wilycaboye que esta hablando la profe no enriendo nada07:49
NoUse!tell Patrick_ about caps07:49
Patrick_CAN ANYBODY HELP ME OUT?07:49
farruinnsonork_: check out amarok, gtkpod, and banshee07:49
thoreauputicpequatre: ask in #ubuntu+107:49
pequatrek07:49
RugPatrick_: Stop yelling07:49
Patrick_OH, RIGHT.  SORRY.07:49
pequatrek07:49
Patrick_I have a question.07:49
RugAsk07:49
thoreauputicPatrick_: you have been warned before07:49
johnnynada loco07:49
Patrick_It was an unwitting mistake.07:49
Patrick_Christ.07:49
sonork_gtkpod does not work for me since it crashes my itunesDB everytime i add a song07:49
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wilycabque desgracia no entinedo ni papa??07:49
sonork_amarok just does nothing07:49
kIOskhow to relaod inetd.conf07:50
kIOskinetd07:50
johnnyla plena loco07:50
wilycabjajaj07:50
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sonork_not tried banshee yet, trying it later07:50
farruinnsonork_: Have you tried banshee? I haven't actually had a chance to look at it myself07:50
thoreauputicPatrick_: and you add language to your list of stupidities07:50
johnnyjajjajja07:50
wilycaboe ya sabes como pasarnos informacion07:50
johnnypilas para las ayudantias07:50
johnnyla plena07:50
wilycabjajaj simon07:50
kingspawn!es07:50
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:50
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sonork_farruinn, i actually meant something like rockbox, or ipodlinux by "ipod software"07:50
ElazarIs there a way to get a listing of the files installed for a package from command line?07:50
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mathieuElazar: dpkg -L package07:50
Elazarmathieu: Thanks.07:51
arnold84i think i know a way07:51
rushi all07:51
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farruinnsonork_: Sorry, don't know what those are07:51
rusim trying to install a package without dependancy07:51
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arnold84It has no path in admin-disks07:51
rusdpkg --ignore-depends=cedega -i cedega_5.1_i386.deb07:51
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rus it keeps telling me that dependancies are unsatisfied07:51
arnold84SHouldnt i make a path07:51
ruswhere am i wrong?07:52
johnrorkSo what should I do next if my properly-configured NIC can't get an IP (5.10 on IBM T23)?07:52
thoreauputicrus: installing without deps is kind of pointless, since it won't work without them07:52
rusthis one does07:52
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NoUsejohnrork try manually assinging an IP and see if that works07:53
johnrorkdid and it doesn't07:53
NoUserun what dependecies does it want?07:53
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rusNoUse: asking me?07:54
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arnold84what path should i specifi?07:54
NoUserus sorry, yeah07:54
rusxlibs07:54
saik0rus, --ignore-depends tells which dependencies to ignore, you want --force-depends, and packahes dont work without their deps so it's moot07:54
rusim on dapper07:54
NoUsearnold84 /media/usbdisk or something similar07:54
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arnold84okay its done07:54
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saik0!tell rus about dapper07:55
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russaik0: i know, i just wanted the syntax07:56
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johnrorkNoUse, thanks for the acknowledgements... my network skills are strong, but i have no linux-fu. So I've tried all the basics, what now?07:56
russaik0: thanx it worked07:56
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sivangre all07:57
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NoUsejohnrork google around for your notebook model and linux and see if anyone else has the same problem07:58
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johnrorkwill do, thanks07:58
sivangdoes anybody know if there anyting to do to make my HD not spin down every second? I've already put ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE=false but that didn't seem to help07:58
NoUsejohnrork might try the dapper beta CD to see if its been fixed in the upcoming ubuntu release07:58
sivangit's a pain trying to get work done like that.07:58
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johnrorkthanks, but like i said, it worked in the last version...07:58
Putiikkisivang: have tried hdparm?07:59
johnrorkwhich is weird, not like they'd DROP drivers07:59
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NoUsejohnrork yeah I don't know07:59
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sivangPutiikki: not really, what should I try with it?07:59
sk8azcan anyone help...  i tried all posts in forum... but i can't still get skype to work... i tried everything... an anyone help me in any way?>07:59
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johnrorkok thanks anyway07:59
Putiikkisivang: read it's man page07:59
sivangPutiikki: good ide a:)07:59
Putiikkiit has lots of options07:59
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Putiikki:)07:59
multimidiakkkkkk08:00
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sivangPutiikki: I'm on a T43p with a SATA2PATA motherboard brige , standard on those thinkpad models08:00
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multimidialots... you08:00
multimidia?08:00
sivangPutiikki: should this be of interest as of this issue?08:00
multimidiaissue, yes08:00
senjini instaled a prog app with synaptic but cant find it on the menu what should i do?08:01
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kIOskiwheres the inetd located in ubuntu ??08:01
Putiikkisivang: don't know, and i go to sleep :P08:01
sivangPutiikki: night08:01
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Putiikkiyea08:01
mathieukIOski: "locate inetd"?08:01
multimidiaubuntun... dont?08:01
khaladandoes ubuntu have longer term viability than fedora?08:01
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multimidiaputiikki you08:02
kIOskihm it seems it doesnt use inetd08:02
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multimidiastandalono08:02
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t35t0rhow do i make a udev rule for multiple DIRECT-ACCESS USB or Firewire drives?08:02
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sk8azcan anyone help...  i tried all posts in forum... but i can't still get skype to work... i tried everything... an anyone help me in any way?08:02
RugI have a nice custom bash prompt setup in my .bashrc but it doesn't seem to work.  what might I be doing wrong?  (Manually I can make it work by typing: (eg) PS1="custom bash here"08:02
multimidiatakanakara, devoce08:03
multimidiapau em two08:03
senjinI instaled opendchub with synaptic and then i cant find the prog on the menu and i dont know were it is instalet and i wonder how do i start the prog?08:03
multimidiapikas no cess08:03
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harisundRug you might want to add it to your .bash_profile too.08:03
NoUsesk8az have you read the wiki howto?08:03
sk8azi think so08:04
Rugahh, thanks08:04
NoUse!tell sk8az about skype08:04
sk8azit has something to do with the file08:04
NoUsesk8az something to do with the file.... could you be more specific?08:04
harisundRug, if that doesn't work too, ensure you are logging into bash. Sometimes you might be logging into .sh and hence PS1 wouldn't response.08:04
sk8azi downloaded the file08:04
Rugnah it is bash08:04
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RugI already made sure of that08:05
sk8azi tried easyubuntu also, no mater what i did, everything exept skype worked08:05
senjinhow do i start a prog that isent on the menu?08:05
harisundRug: Ok Then I am guessing adding it to .bash_profile should work ..08:05
saik0senjin, Are sure thats a GUI prog?08:05
ElazarAnyone know why dragging-and-dropping in gftp doesn't seem to take? Is that not a feature?08:05
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t35t0rdo usb/firewire devices just work in ubuntu ?08:06
RugI have to log-out for changes to take effect?08:06
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t35t0rsomeone zip me up the entire /etc/udev rules and gimme08:06
harisundRug I am guessing so08:06
saik0Elazar, you can use ftp through nautilus08:06
Rugbummer...  thanks for the tip08:06
senjini first instaled the source then i found it in synatec and no i dont know if it is gui. i dont actualy got a to big grasp of gui either08:06
Elazarsaik0: Thanks, I'll look into that then.08:06
NoUsesk8az can you provide any error mesages? anything that would give us a clue as to the nature of the problem? "Doesn't work" doesn't tell us much08:07
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eneriedhello08:07
MonsieurBonI'm trying to install gimp from source. the configure script gave this error: checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool08:08
MonsieurBonwhat do I do?08:08
RugEnigma is great music to hack away at code to...08:08
harisundRug could you get it to work?08:08
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AnsiCafter make08:08
AnsiCmake install install_root=/home/user/new_root08:08
AnsiCis correct?08:08
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RugI can't logout.  =(   I've got 3 different projects on the go08:08
saik0senjin, open up a terminal and do 'man opendchub'08:09
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harisundRug, you could do ". .bash_profile" And you might change your prompt.08:09
saik0!tell senjin about cli08:09
eneriedcould you help me? i'v just installled ubuntu, and now i want to auntomount my fat32 partitions at boot time, but i want to have full access to them, ubuntu by default let them hidden from me T_T08:09
Jimmey__!cli08:09
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org08:09
harisundRug, or you could ssh into your local box (ssh localhost) and see if you get the prompt you want.08:09
saik0!tell Jimmey__ about fishing08:10
t35t0rthis is the stupidest thing ever ...i can't find any articles online to figure out how to setup udev to automount any direct-access usb or firewire device!!!08:10
RugHar, I love that idea!08:10
icedid flash 8 come out for linux yet ?08:10
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iceI need it08:10
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harisundRug, yeah... or you could use screen instead :)08:10
saik0ice, Macromedia )back when they were still Macromedia) said there will be no flash 8 for linux08:11
iceare you serious08:11
Rugno it isn't working....08:11
icethats not cool08:11
johnrorkHAHA!!! For some reason the damn think defaulted to lo! Problem solved!08:11
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saik0ice, Yes, they are "skipping" support for flash 8 and will be supporting flash 908:11
t35t0reverywhere i look it always needs a SYSFS{model} ..well i don't know what model a user is going to come by with and stick into the machine ..i need a UNIVERSAL udev rule for all usb/firewire devices08:11
NoUsejohnrork w00t08:11
lucky_bro~~~08:11
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saik0ice, Flash 9 for win went into beta a couple days ago, so hopefuly it wont be long08:12
eneriedhello?08:12
rane_why can't i login as root?08:12
lucky_this ubutu is someting gggggggggggoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood08:12
lucky_:D08:12
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rane_!root08:12
ubotuDirect login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.08:12
eneriedplease help me to configure my /etc/fstab file...08:13
harisundrane_ There is specifically no root account. All administrative activities are performed using the sudo command08:13
sk8azwhile installing skype i get :08:13
sk8az  Package libqt3-mt is not installed.08:13
sk8az  Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.08:13
sk8az  , what should i do?08:13
saik0lucky_, we appreciate the sentiment, but this is a support channel.08:13
Seveassk8az, install either of those packages08:13
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NoUsesk8az read the wiki page08:13
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NoUse!skype08:13
uboturumour has it, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/08:13
MonsieurBonI need gtk+ >=2.8.8 How do I get it??08:13
takedownHi there, guys im updated from breezy to dapper and i have a problem with fglrx. Ok, i installed it via apt-get module was loading, but when i try to login with kdm i dont have 3d accelerate,but module is load. And if i run kde via startx all fine. Can anyone help me?08:14
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eneriedit seems nobody can read me08:14
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saik0!tell takedown about dapper08:15
sk8azSeveas: how can i install those packedges?08:15
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Rugeneried: can you be more specific about your problem?08:15
khaladandoes Canonical have long-term viability? if they go away what happens to Ubuntu?08:16
kronozwell if they go away ubuntu dies ultimatley08:16
khaladanIf I want to, can I recompile some packages, like apache, under ubuntu?08:16
kronozbut they don't seem to be going anywhere08:16
eneriedRug, i'm trying to automount  fat32 partitions, but i want full access, only rot can read tghem and cannot write :(08:16
tonyyarussokhaladan: The plan is to have Ubuntu be self-sufficient.  I don't know if it's there yet, but it should be soon.08:16
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kronozkhaladan, yes, just install make, gcc et al08:16
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khaladanand it won't mess up the package database or anything?08:17
eneriedRug, i'm trying to edit the fstab file, somebody does it before, but now i can't remember how :">08:17
saik0khaladan, you can download the source packages and recompile and install them08:17
tonyyarussokronoz: You can get them all at once with the build-essential metapackage, btw.08:17
kingspawneneried: mount it with options udask=0000 and fmask=011108:17
myleftfoothi, by default is gdm compiled with --enable-secureremote in ubuntu?08:17
kingspawns/udask/umask08:18
kingspawns/umask/dmask  <-- geez08:18
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eneriedthanks kingspawn, i'll try08:18
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kingspawnSeveas: puh, needed08:18
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roy_how can i get mo3 support in linux08:19
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kingspawn!restrictedformats08:19
ubotufrom memory, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats08:19
roy_i am new to it08:19
kingspawnroy_: ^^^^08:19
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scifihey guys just got my network switch, now able to get online via windows and linux :)08:20
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com4When i update dapper, i get this error: xserver-xorg_7.0.0-0ubuntu31_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 208:20
roy_can anyone help me please08:20
scifitrying out gaim for the 1st time08:20
SeveasRug, heh08:20
kingspawnroy_: read the link that ubotu just provided08:20
com4/tmp/xserver-xorg.config.64791: line 973: syntax error near unexpected token `)'08:20
Seveascom4, known bug08:20
Seveasjust wait for a fix08:20
com4Seveas: ok, thanks08:20
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saik0!tell scifi about offtopic08:20
eneriedkingspawn what's dmask?08:20
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kingspawneneried: mask applied to directories08:21
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roy_ok thanks08:21
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eneried;)08:21
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eneriedkingspawn, what does umask=0000 and fmask=0111 means? it works :)08:23
Jimmey__saik0, I'm sorry08:23
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MM2I wonder if MD5 sums are right for flight 6 i386 install packages? I got different MD5 hash.08:24
kingspawneneried: they set permissions. the numbers are in octal08:25
eneriedkingspawn, is it not better to say umask=0777?08:25
gozzwill rhythmbox play shoutcast streams? i add the location to the .pls file but i cant get any of them to play?08:25
RugWhat would it take to get sshd installed by default on Ubuntu?  I have a spare kidney that I'd be willing to part with (slightly pickled though) if ti helps.08:25
eneriedkingspawn, but i don't understand what zeros means :(08:25
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_jasonRug: why?08:26
jimcooncatRug, I believe they wouldn't, no open ports policy08:26
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Rug_jason: It's just my biggest (and only) pet-peeve about Ubuntu08:26
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FalcHi. I want to change my recently installed Ubuntu system so that X does not start at the beginning.08:27
gozzthey play in totem on debian but totem wont work on ubuntu08:27
_jasonRug: but it only takes one command, not everyone wants to use ssh08:27
FalcI'd like it so that I have to start it manually- I do not want it uninstalled.08:27
jimcooncatRug, hopefully they'll come through and make it easy to roll your own distro08:27
HymnToLifegozz> it does, you just need the right GStreamer plugins08:27
Rughehe yes I know it's easy.08:27
Jimmey__Falc, try downloading BUM, maybe to can stop X from starting that way08:27
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kingspawneneried: 0000 means "everyone gets permissions"08:28
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gozzi got the ones from apt-get08:28
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eneriedkingspawn, thanks ;)08:28
FalcIsn't there a configuration file or anything?08:28
solanhi, how do I update from Hoary to Breezy?08:28
polpak!upgrade08:28
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .08:28
Jimmey__Falc, probably, I just don't know of it08:28
solanthx;)08:28
FalcAhh, okay.08:28
polpakFalc, just uninstall or disable gdm08:28
roy_where do i type this sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad for mpe format08:29
HymnToLifein a terminal08:29
eneriedkingspawn, i set it in that way, but now i can't rename or modify files :(08:29
_jasonroy_: applications > accessories > terminal08:29
HymnToLifeaAlt+F2 > gnome-terminal08:29
eneriedi canc opy and see08:29
saik0!tell Falc about wiki UbuntuBootupHowto08:29
kingspawneneried: did you set umask or dmask?08:29
roy_oh i see thanks guys08:30
eneriedi set "umask=0000,fmask=0000,dmask=0000"08:30
FalcHow do I disable gdm?08:30
kingspawneneried: dont set umask. and you can use fmask=000,dmask=000 (the forth digit isnt needed anymore)08:30
_jasonFalc: system > administration > services, or man update-rc.d08:31
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roy_it says it couldnt find the package08:31
eneriedkingspawn, ok, i'll go and see :)08:31
_jasonroy_: did you enable universe?08:31
roy_do i need to download08:31
FalcOkay, thank08:31
saik0!tell Falc about BUM08:31
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gozzHymnToLife: i got the totem-gstreamer package do i also need gstreamer0.8-plugins08:31
roy_no08:31
roy_how do i do that08:31
_jasonubotu: tell roy_ about universe08:31
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azathorHola, tengo un problema de booteo con Ubuntu Dapper en un Notebook acer 351TEV08:33
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NikosGrhi08:33
saik0!tell azathor about es08:33
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NikosGrhihi08:33
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NikosGrtotem cannot play mp3 for me. why?08:33
polpak!tell NikosGr about mp308:33
|lostbyte|dlink, linksys or robotics ? which one would you'll prefer as a wifi router ?08:33
saik0!tell NikosGr about restrictedformats08:33
roy__jason how do i enable universe08:33
|lostbyte|!linksys08:33
ubotuIf you have a Linksys or Netgear router please get your firmware update08:33
azathorel problema es que al bootea pero en un momento pierde conexion el lector y el sistema08:33
FalcOkay, maybe I'm in trouble here. 1) I cannot install anything, sudo fails to work (i couldn't get a solution for that anywhere) and 2) I can't change anything in services, sudo.08:34
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HymnToLife!es08:34
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:34
_jasonroy_: check your private messages from ubotu08:34
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|lostbyte|!d-link08:34
ubotu|lostbyte|: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:34
|lostbyte|!dlink08:34
ubotu|lostbyte|: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:34
HymnToLifeFalcwhat's wrong with sudo ?08:34
_jason!es08:34
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azathoralguien puede ayudarme?08:34
polpakFalc, you need to type in your user password for sudo (assuming you are an administrator)08:34
saik0!tell |lostbyte| about fishing08:34
_jasonazathor: /join #ubuntu-es08:35
azathorok, thanks08:35
rkz_who could help with bitchx I cand find configuration files, my created .ircrc not work :/08:35
FalcI do type in my password, it fails to work.08:35
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FalcI've tried root password, and user pssword. both fail to work repetedly.08:35
Falc.window 408:35
HymnToLifefalc > any error message ?08:35
NikosGrthis is what i need? sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly ?08:35
saik0!tell NikosGr about dapper08:36
_jasonNikosGr: are you using dapper?08:36
FalcNo error messages whatsoever, ever.08:36
NikosGryes08:36
HymnToLifethat's weird...08:36
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HymnToLifeit just does nothing and get you back to the propmpt ?08:36
|lostbyte|saik0: does'nt replay to me in private, i dont know why :(..08:36
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_jasonFalc: paste the output of 'groups' please08:36
FalcIt is weird.08:36
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polpakFalc, use pastebin08:37
FalcHow do I paste in a terminal? XP08:37
NikosGrway the package name is ugly? :)08:37
FalcOkay, I can do that...08:37
saik0NikosGr, try #ubuntu+108:37
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NikosGrubuntu+l is specially for dapper drake userS?08:37
_jasonFalc: just check if groups says you are in the 'admin' group then08:38
eneriedkingspawn, can i make another question? i want to know how to use the reading,writing attributes of fat32 on ubuntu08:38
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ph8no, that's not what the topic says :)08:38
KoRniCheRe08:38
_jasonNikosGr: yes08:38
KoRniCheNoUse08:38
kingspawneneried: hm?08:38
_jasonNikosGr: actually, no.  It is +1 not +l08:38
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NoUseKoRniChe yes08:38
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saik0NikosGr, yes and this channel is specifically for breezy badger users08:39
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DBOhowdy saik008:39
KoRniCheNoUse , i fixed my problem thx to norton ghost :p08:39
Falc_jason: Apparently not. How do I put myself in there?08:39
NoUseKoRniChe cool08:39
NikosGrok08:39
NikosGrwhat dapper darke mean anyway?08:39
_jasonFalc: is this the user you created during install and is this an expert install?08:39
eneriedkingspawn, i'm looking my fat32 partition, there are a desktop.ini file, that's hidden on wondows, but here is visible, and there's an image that is readonly but here not, can i use the fat32 settings?08:39
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FalcThis is an expert install.08:40
kingspawneneried: i would imagine so08:40
DBONikosGr, it means free publicity along the lines of "what the heck does dapper drake mean?"08:40
acetechanyone know why I cannot get my flash drive out of read only mode...?  I have tried mounting with umask=0000, tried chown and chmod08:40
_jasonFalc: so you have a root password and can su to root?08:40
definityhow come my ubuntu has gone all laggy when i first installed it it was quite fast now i installed kde for about 3 months and slowly its been getting worse and worse, any ideas on how to speed it up08:40
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saik0!tell NikosGr about wiki DevelopmentCodeNames08:40
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eneriedkingspawn, but you don't know how08:41
kingspawneneried: wasn't that what we just talked about with dmask and fmask?08:41
ElazarUsing Synaptic to do a complete removal of gPHPEdit doesn't seem to have gotten rid of the option I get to open it in the menu that appears when I right-click on a file. Any ideas on how I can do that?08:41
Bog_I'm using the livecd, is it possible to use a usb key to save all my session information?08:41
NikosGrDBO: ?08:41
Falc_jason: Yep. Sure can/.08:41
NikosGri didnt got that08:41
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_jasonubotu: tell Falc about expert08:41
DBONikosGr, it was a bad joke, ignore me08:41
Bog_so when I reboot the docs on my desktop are still there, and settings are preserved08:42
NikosGr:)08:42
eneriedkingspawn, ah, sorry :(08:42
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scifihey guys, just installed gparted, but when i right -click on a partition the resize option is unavailable08:42
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NoUsescifi you can't resize while the drive is mouted08:42
NoUsescifi get the gparted livecd, its a nice small iso08:43
mjschultzi am using firefox for ubunto, and i was wordering if there is a plug in for wma streams08:43
baconbacon!w32codecs08:43
ubotuhmm... w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install08:43
_jasonmjschultz: mplayer with w32codecs I believe works08:43
ElazarI tried reinstalling it and doing a complete removal again to make sure that something odd didn't happen when I originally completely removed it, but the menu option is still there.08:43
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NoUsemjschultz try mozilla-mplayer08:43
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_jasonubotu: tell mjschultz about mplayer08:43
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mjschultzthank you i forgot about that program..08:44
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scifiNoUse: ok so i just need to unmount them, or how do i use the gparted iso?08:45
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NoUsescifi you download the iso, burn it to a disc and boot from said disc08:45
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loststar4545Hello when is 6.06 comming out08:46
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NoUse!tell loststar4545 about dapper08:46
scifiNoUse: k kewl may try it sometime. (looks for option in gaim where he can press arrow keys to scroll to show previous sentence :P )08:46
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DBOscifi, dont think you can do that in GAIM08:47
loststar4545if i download the latest flight should i  be fine when  the relase comes out or do i have to download again08:47
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DBOloststar4545, you will be fine08:47
scifiDBO: doesnt look like it :P08:47
baconbaconscifi: ctrl+arrows08:47
NoUseloststar4545 if you keep updated it will install the final version when it comes out08:48
DBOreally?08:48
eneriedif chmod allow me to change permissions of a folder, how can i see the current ones?08:48
DBOsweet08:48
scifibacon: ty08:48
saik0eneried, ls -l08:48
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Ace_B_747___anyone know how to deal with a usb flash drive that will not mount of read only settings?08:48
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FalcYES! Thank you _jason08:48
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_jasonFalc: np08:49
eneriedthanks saik008:49
saik0eneried, you got it08:49
scifianyone managed to get counter-strike running in ubuntu using wine ?08:49
NoUsescifi if you google around you'll find some howtos08:50
DBO1 or 2?08:50
scificus at the moment thats the only thing holding me back from using linux more08:50
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DBOscifi, erm, dual boot?08:50
iloadminhow can I join a windows channel???08:50
DBOiloadmin, "/j #windows"08:51
scifiDBO: it is dual-boot system08:51
Ace_B_747___anyone know how to deal with a usb flash drive that will not mount of read only settings?08:51
NoUseiloadmin its actually ##windows08:51
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iloadminty guys08:51
DBONoUse, yeah, but #windows will dump to ##windows08:51
NoUseDBO ok08:51
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scifiok looking at a wine how to, 1st step, download deb files or use apt-get after adding wine repositories, how do i check i have wine repos added?08:54
eneriedkingspawn, i found the error (^ ^), i can mopdify files inside folders in the partitions, but not on mounting points, i've just changed the mounting points permissions and all is working well, thanks a lot ;)08:55
baconbacon!wine08:55
NoUsescifi go to winehq.com they have a howto08:55
baconbaconbah08:55
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BearKnuckleCan anyone explain why "glxgears" does not have a fps-output in dapper?08:57
NoUseBearKnuckle #ubuntu+108:57
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Jowisawfish in the universe repo does not include sawfish-themer. the sources for sawfish 1.3 include it but I get some errors trying to compile it (AM_PATH_REP). anyone has a clue of how to fix that?08:58
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crimsunJowi: apt-get build-dep sawfish08:58
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Jowicrimsun: thanks alot. will try it09:00
kingspawneneried: my pleasure09:00
scifiit suggests using ubuntu backports to install latest wine, and links me to the ubuntu forum on how to enable them. this sound ok to do ?09:00
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NoUsescifi I just use winehq.com's ubuntu repository09:02
Jowicrimsun: cool. i got a make file now :)09:02
CoirOk, I have a problem.09:02
Coirerr09:02
sk8azwhere can i download libstdc++5 library?09:02
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_jasonsk8az: apt-get09:02
crimsun!info libstdc++509:02
ubotulibstdc++5: (The GNU Standard C++ Library v3), section base, is optional. Version: 1:3.3.6-8ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 288 kB, Installed size: 848 kB09:02
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rungehi. are there any apps for handling ipods?09:02
CoirWhen running the "flurry" sceensaver, my desktop crashes - even when trying to change it in the Screensaver preferences menu. So, how can I do this via GUI?09:02
Coirerr09:03
_jason!ipod09:03
ubotuinfo for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto09:03
CoirCLI09:03
_jasonCoir: ~/.xscreensaver09:03
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zelevwhi..when i try to connect to this channel from home it tells me im banned...i have no problem connecting from work...what could be the cause...its been like that since last friday...thx09:03
rungethanks _jason09:03
mzinzI need flash/shockwave player.  I read the restricted formats wiki and installed the Windows version of Firefox with Wine.  It says that I now must go to a website that requires the plugin and to download it... but how do I open firefox with wine again?09:04
revAndrewhey, sorry for the typical newbue question but how do I mount a FAT32 harddrive?09:04
_jasonubotu: tell revAndrew about vfat09:04
_jasonrevAndrew: you can also use system > administration > disks09:04
revAndrewthank you09:04
sk8az_jason : can you be a little more specific? what should i type, im a bit new ;] 09:05
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NoUse!tell sk8az about synaptic09:05
NoUsesk8az use synaptic, just search for that package09:05
eggzecksk8az: sudo apt-get install libstdc++509:05
_jasonsk8az: that file has the preferences stored in there, make a backup first (cp ~/.xscreensaver ~/.xscreensaver.backup) and then edit it (gedit ~/.xscreensaver)09:05
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_jasonsk8az: ha thought you were someone else, ignore me09:06
BeruBearKnuckle : try glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark09:06
sk8az;] 09:06
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BearKnuckleBeru: read it in #ubuntu+1, thanks!09:06
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eggzecksk8az: do what I said :)09:06
zelevwhi..when i try to connect to this channel from home it tells me im banned...i have no problem connecting from work...what could be the cause...its been like that since last friday...thx09:07
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Coir_jason, when I open the ~/.xscreensaver, the file is blank09:07
enerieddoes anybody know how to hear mp3 in dapper? wich packages i must install?09:07
_jasonCoir: hmm are you on breezy?09:07
eggzeckeneried: /j #ubuntu+109:07
mzinzI used to use Gnome exclusively, then I made the switch to KDE.  Do I still need Gnome installed? Is there a way to remove it, along with *most* of the gnome programs?09:07
Coir_jason, Dapepr09:07
roy_hey thanks guys09:07
CoirDapper*09:07
_jasonCoir: dapper questions in #ubuntu+1 please09:08
roy_its working now09:08
sambristahi! I have a lan internet conection and an usb wifi adapter from a laptop. When i active both in this computer, internet doesn't work. How can i fix it?09:08
eneriedthanks eggzeck09:08
roy_thanks _jason and ubotu09:08
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scifiwine 0.9.12 ok?09:08
cpltnt303hi all i have a quastion how do i install application like gnome to ubunto ?09:08
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NoUsescifi should be09:08
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cpltnt303for exsample i wanna install Gnome , there are millions of files in there ftp what is the extension i should be looking for ?09:09
scifiNoUse: when i go to install it i get a popup saying it cant be authenticated but allows me to install it anyway , that sound right?09:10
NoUsescifi yeah thats fine09:10
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eggzeckyou can do: rm -rf *~ (that would work)09:10
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unforcereggzeck: great09:11
ConfidentiaLhow do I configure ubuntu to share files on a linux network?09:11
saik0!tell ConfidentiaL, about nfs09:11
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eggzeckerr, unforcer: that was meant for another channel! Don't do that, it deletes all backup files in current dir09:11
zelevwConfidentiaL: system, administration, shared folders09:11
saik0!tell ConfidentiaL about nfs09:12
PuMpErNiCkLecpltnt303: Do you want the complete Ubuntu desktop + application set, or just a minimal Gnome install?09:12
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unforcereggzeck: yeah I know that :D09:12
scifiNoUse: k package downloading now, only getting 10k tho ^^09:12
GazzaKHi folks, does anyone know a plt file viewer for ubuntu?  I have a need to open a documentname.plt file (plt is a plot file - a cad drawing)09:12
cpltnt303Pumper YEAH the full ....09:12
NoUsescifi yeah wine's mirror gets slow sometimes09:12
unforcereggzeck: there are lots of n00bs here :D09:12
unforcerso please no "rm -rf / with sudo"09:12
scifi42k now :)09:12
PuMpErNiCkLecpltnt303: the command to do that is 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'09:13
eggzeckunforcer: yeah, :)09:13
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nikos_hi again09:13
scifidown to 84b/s now lol09:13
nikos_iam having major problems09:13
nikos_root@dell:/home/nikos/easyubuntu# gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst09:13
nikos_cannot open display: (null)09:13
Drehow do i install java on ubuntu?09:13
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cpltnt303PuMpErNiCkLe u mean i dont need to download it ?09:13
revAndrewis there a way to change the name of a mounted hard drive on the desktop from the default "hda1" to another name such as "media"?09:13
kingspawnnikos_: nano /boot/grub/menu.lst09:13
Jowicrimsun: hmm, looks like i need rep-gtk libglade wrapper. can't find any such thing in the repos.09:13
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cpltnt303PuMpErNiCkLe just go into the terminal and input the command ?09:14
PuMpErNiCkLecpltnt303: That command downloads everythign pre-packaged from the repository and installs it automatically.  Convenient, simple, safe. :)09:14
scifirevAndrew: not easily, i tried symlinks and a ntfsprogs, both had problems :P09:14
nikos_kingspawn: nano works but what happend to edit09:14
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nikos_and what this cnnot find dipaly error iam getting?09:14
cpltnt303im maybe new to linux BUT DAMN thats awsume Q!@(*&!#@!09:14
scifiNoUse: getting this error now: W: Failed to fetch http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/wine_0.9.12~winehq1-1_i386.deb09:15
scifi  Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection09:15
NoUsescifi just keep running it until you get the whole file09:15
kingspawnnikos_: good question. can you start other gui-applications from the terminal?09:15
NoUsescifi i get the same problem09:15
Drehow do i install java on ubuntu?09:15
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revAndrewscifi: so short answer "no" and l;ong answer "yes with a but"?09:15
NoUse!java09:15
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs09:15
cpltnt303PuMpErNiCkLe it says ubunto is already in full mode...09:16
PuMpErNiCkLecpltnt303: Most 'desktop' linux distributions have a feature like that.  Ubuntu has apt-get, RedHat has Yum, Arch has Pacman, I forget what SuSe has but it's very similar.09:16
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Drethanks09:16
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nikos_E: Malformed line 10 in source list /home/nikos/easyubuntu/conf/sources.list (URI)09:16
nikos_E: The list of sources could not be read.09:16
scifirevAndrew: yeh im sure someone in here with more knowledge can take u thru it09:16
nikos_Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.09:16
cpltnt303PuMpErNiCkLe thanks ... any hows ... it says i already have it ...09:16
PuMpErNiCkLecpltnt303: Uh... did you do a standard install?  If so, you already have Gnome.09:16
nikos_what this? i dotn understand09:16
cpltnt303PuMpErNiCkLe Oh really thats gr8 so where do i change themes ?09:16
nikos_i just wanted to run easyubuntu09:16
scifiNoUse: will it resume from where it stopped or start from beginning ?09:17
PuMpErNiCkLecpltnt303: System menu -> preferences -> theme09:17
NoUsescifi it will resume09:17
nikos_plz help me out09:17
_nano_Hi I'm having trouble in enabling direct rendering....need help09:17
PuMpErNiCkLecpltnt303: You can get more from gnome-look.org09:17
_nano_!3d09:17
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _nano_09:17
cpltnt303PuMpErNiCkLe thanks , i'm now learning the shell u got any more good site or subject to learn inside this linux ?09:18
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scifiNoUse: kewl resuming @ 80k09:18
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nikos_NoUse: can u help?09:18
PuMpErNiCkLecpltnt303: Nothing in particular... the wiki has guides on a lot of stuff, so if you get stuck, or want to know more about anything, it's a good place to start.09:18
PuMpErNiCkLe!wiki09:18
scifirevAndrew: ask ur question again so a proper techie will see it09:18
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PuMpErNiCkLehm09:19
nikos_gedit09:19
cpltnt303ok thanks can i have the url since this a new computer i got NONE URLS ..09:19
PuMpErNiCkLewiki.ubuntu.com anyway :)09:19
NoUsenikos_ I've never used easyubuntu09:19
nikos_whats the drake channel again?09:19
PuMpErNiCkLe#ubuntu+109:19
nikos_ubuntu+l ?09:19
nikos_ah +109:19
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Keytwociao a tutti09:20
i3dmasterhow to config shortcuts in KDE?09:20
cpltnt303PuMpErNiCkLe btw i'm working with an old laptop is ubunto easy install would work smother ?09:21
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NoUsei3dmaster when you drag a file, when you releae the file you get the option to make a link09:21
scifiNoUse: ok it downloaded and i assume installed09:21
Keytwohey guys is there someone who have problem with gam_server?09:21
NoUsescifi cool09:21
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i3dmasterNoUse, not for that, I want to config some shortcuts for launch apps09:22
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noppopeople, where can i change my Desktop manager from GNOME to fluxbox?09:22
scifiNoUse: now just looking for the CS howto09:22
PuMpErNiCkLecpltnt303: Possibly easyubuntu could help.  There are some options you can set to optimize performance, too, and there's also Xubuntu, which is based on Xfce instead of Gnome, which makes it more lightweight.09:22
NoUsei3dmaster right-click -> create link to application09:22
cpltnt303PuMpErNiCkLe thanks09:23
Profichillanoppo: sudo apt-get install fluxbox and then just select it on login.09:23
PuMpErNiCkLecpltnt303: np :)09:23
noppook, thx, gonna try09:23
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loststar4545is a nvidia 5500 good enough to run ubuntu09:24
i3dmasterNoUse, well that is really not what I want. I thought there was a place to config keyboard shortcuts..09:24
PuMpErNiCkLeloststar4545: Definitely.09:24
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PuMpErNiCkLei3dmaster: like in System -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts ?09:25
noppodidn't help09:25
KeytwoMay I pose a question?09:25
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noppothere was no menu to select the Window manager09:25
i3dmasterPuMpErNiC, let me take a look there09:25
PuMpErNiCkLeKeytwo: You already did.  You may, however, ask another. :)09:25
NoUsei3dmaster settings -> Accessibility09:25
Keytwosure I do ^^: is there someone else (over me) who have problems with gam_server (gamin)?09:26
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OmegHi all. My updater says that it is "Analysing" my system. Since I'm not running UK English as my Ubuntu language, shouldn't it be saying "Analyzing"?09:27
jeff303is there a quick way to find out the full path called by a command?  ex: I have multiple JREs installed and I want to know which is getting called by doing just "javac"?09:27
KeytwoIt spreads out about 33% of my CPU time... -.-"09:27
Keytwojeff303: which <command>09:27
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jeff303Keytwo: I'd like to know in general, but in this specific case, javac09:28
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jeff303Keytwo: since I have many "javac"s installed - sun, GCJ, etc.09:28
noppojeff303, which javac09:28
i3dmasterNoUse, PuMpErNiC, sorry don't see those. Im using 3.5.2 and not familiar with it (was just off from gnome)09:28
noppoobviously09:28
jeff303noppo: that's what I'm trying to figure out09:28
cpltnt303I need Internet Explorer 6 Based browser in order to run a certain web site that dont work with Firefox ,What other options do i have for linux ?09:28
Keytwotry "ps aux" you'll have a complete list of tasks with the arguments passed09:28
jeff303noppo: I can always do javac -version or something but that doesn't answer my question in general09:28
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noppojeff303, type 'which javac' at the terminal09:29
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traineris there a keyboard shortcut for switching between workspaces?09:29
jeff303noppo: ooh ok09:29
jeff303noppo: perfect, thank you09:29
noppojeff303, thank Keytwo09:29
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go1dfishare the repositories dead?09:29
cpltnt303I need Internet Explorer 6 Based browser in order to run a certain web site that dont work with Firefox ,What other options do i have for linux ?09:29
revAndrewubuntu is a debian derivitive, right? so if I want to install a program I download the debian version?09:29
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jeff303Keytwo: thanks09:30
damotorhi09:30
Keytwonp ^^09:30
noppo:)09:30
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go1dfishrevAndrew: if there is no debian specific version that is generally your best bet09:30
jeff303cpltnt303: there is a way to install IE6 using Wine, I've done it before09:30
go1dfisherr ubuntu* specific09:30
NoUsei3dmaster in the KMenu, there is a settings option09:30
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jeff303cpltnt303: don't remember the specifics, though, sorry09:30
jeff303cpltnt303: I'm sure you can google it09:30
damotordo u know about a program to find coincidences between two images?09:30
cpltnt303what i s Wine ?09:30
i3dmasterok, found it. Its under Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard shortcuts09:30
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i3dmasterthanks for help09:30
patrick_kinghow do i ssh in to my sql09:30
noppocould somebody PLEASE tell me how to change my Desktop manager - i would like to use fluxbox instead of GNOME09:31
NoUse!wine09:31
scifiNoUse: do i just type "wine" in terminal to run it for the first time?09:31
noppo!x09:31
ubotuI heard x is a portable, network-transparent window system.09:31
noppo!fluxbox09:31
ubotuhmm... fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net09:31
NoUsescifi wine file.exe09:31
Keytwopatrick_king: ssh in your remote host then mysql09:31
jeff303cpltnt303: look at the first few hits for   "internet explorer" ubuntu    on google09:31
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loststar4545how does fluxbox compare to gnome09:32
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patrick_kingi dont think i have ssh open how do i do this09:32
noppoloststar4545, that's what I'm trying to figure out by experimenting09:32
jeff303patrick_king: ssh username@server09:32
jeff303patrick_king: from the command line09:32
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loststar4545i tried gnome and kde so far i prefer gnome09:33
noppoloststar4545, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox09:33
runge_jason, the ipod-fix-page worked very nicely. thanks very much!09:33
_jasonrunge: great09:33
mzinzI used to use Gnome exclusively, then I made the switch to KDE.  Do I still need Gnome installed? Is there a way to remove it, along with *most* of the gnome programs?09:33
loststar4545what do you guys use09:33
_jasonanyone happen to know how to make openoffice writer update text so that it has 2 spaces after a period if it only has 1 now?09:34
go1dfishis anyone else having trouble updating?09:34
noppoloststar4545, the page says that fluxbox requires less RAM, but has less features than GNOME or KDE09:34
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PuMpErNiCkLe_jason: search and replace ". " with ".  "09:34
noppoloststar4545, at the moment i'm using gnome, just because it was the default window manager for ubuntu09:34
jeff303PuMpErNiCkLe: lol09:34
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_jasonPuMpErNiCkLe: hehe yes thanks09:34
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PuMpErNiCkLenp :)09:35
alambahi all....looking for some exim on ubuntu help...not able to figure out how I could capture all mails for a given virtual domain09:35
cpltnt303I need help installing Wine i'm in the download url but i dont know what to do ...09:36
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cpltnt303I need help installing Wine i'm in the download url but i dont know what to do ... where is synaptic Package Manager09:37
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runge_jason, there is an error in the page you showed me. who do I talk to to change it? (one place says "mnt" instead of "media")09:37
NoUse!tell cpltnt303 about synaptic09:37
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_jasonrunge: you may edit that page yourself, it's a wiki :)09:37
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runge_jason, uhm.. ignore me while I go and beat my self09:37
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scifiNoUse: did u do this transgaming activex control part, or just use the default activex that comes with firefox ?09:38
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NoUsescifi I don't remember needing that09:39
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NoUsescifi the last time I ran CS through wine was probably 2-3 years ago09:39
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scifigrrr keep closing tabs by accident in gaim :P09:40
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simonpcaplop09:41
jeff303cpltnt303: google for "winteools" there is a GUI in that program which will install everything (including IE) and put a shortcut right on your desktop09:41
_jason!info winetools09:42
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_jasonguess not09:42
sys8794could I package captive-nfts and include it in a fapper flight?09:42
ZoohouseHello everyone09:42
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_jasonsys8794: ask in #ubuntu-motu perhaps09:42
sys8794_jason thanks09:42
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Keytwois there a way to make gam_server avoid spread out so much CPU time?09:43
ZoohouseWhats a quick tool that I can use to create a FAT32 filesystem on another drive?09:43
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jeff303Zoohouse: try gparted or qtparted?09:43
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jouellettemy Xorg is using 2.6 GB or ram... is there a special reason for that?09:43
jeff303jouellette: is it all resident?09:44
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Zoohousejeff303, thanks09:44
KeytwoZoohouse: type 'man mkfs' in terminal09:44
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ZoohouseKeytwo, k09:44
Keytwo;)09:44
Zoohouseill check it out09:44
jouellettejeff303, yeah09:44
jeff303jouellette: holy crap... sorry don't know how to help you there09:45
_jasonjouellette: wow, how much ram do you have?09:46
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jouellettejeff303, I do have 4 gigs and and 10 gig of swap09:46
_jason10gigs of swap09:46
immolo10gigs of swap09:46
immolohaha09:46
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immoloI'm going to piss myself09:46
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Zoohousegparted is nice :)09:47
jouelletteIt'09:47
jouelletteIt's a Dual xeon too... It's my work PC09:47
_jasonjouellette: is that 2.6 gb of resident memory?09:47
immolojouellette, could you paste bin the output of free -m as I would really like to see what it says09:48
jouellette             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached09:49
jouelletteMem:          3671       3544        126          0         16        31109:49
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scifiNoUse: cant navigate to "/.wine/drive_c/Program Files" in terminal, can navigate to /.wine/drive_c/ but then it says cant find Program files directory ^^09:49
NoUsescifi you need to escape the space: cd Program\ Files09:49
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scifiNoUse: i tried an * in the back and that worked :)09:50
bkeatingis LVM volumes like.. "JOBOD config?"09:50
bkeatinger.. *are* LVM volumes09:50
immolojouellette, well you are wasting 9.6Gb but ram is being wasted somewhere09:50
Jimmey__Guys and Gals, I've followed the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter, but am still unable to send print jobs ( sucessfully ) to my HP Deskjet 810c09:50
Jimmey__Any ideas?09:50
scifiback = gap*09:51
jouelletteyeah... I have tomcat and Eclipse running and it seems like java is using about 1.5 gb for it09:51
immoloah java that explains all09:51
jeff303scifi: if you're trying to run a command from your terminal just use tab for all those messy wine autocompletions09:51
jouellettebut it still doesn't explain why xorg is using so much09:51
jeff303scifi: makes it a breeze to navigate lovely Windows spaced directories  :-)09:51
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HurinHello09:52
immolojouellette, tryed running top?09:52
jimcooncatJimmey__, are you sure XP has printer shared?09:52
NoUsejouellette does X use that much when it first starts, or does it grow?09:52
jouelletteit grows...09:52
immolosee how much memory it is reallly using09:52
jouelletteNoUse, you think it's a leak09:52
scifijeff303: not sure what u mean but thx09:52
jouelletteTOP says 2.5g09:53
immoloscifi, if you press the tab button it autocompletes the word09:53
NoUsejouellette possibly, I'd report it the xorg people, they would know if its a bug or not09:53
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Zoohousehumm..09:53
NoUsejouellette there is a #xorg channel here09:54
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jeff303scifi: just try pressing tab after you're typed part of the path, and if there is a unique completion, it will get filled in for you09:55
josehello there can any one point me to a good page about wireless networking??09:55
HurinI have the question about ethernet connection, if it's ok?09:55
Jimmey__jimcooncat, I'm sure, in the control panel, printers are shared..09:56
jeff303scifi: if there is more than one unique completion, pressing tab repeatedly will show you a list of all the possibilities09:56
scifikewl thanks09:56
Hurin(I have notebook, hp nx6110 with Ubuntu Breezy on it)09:56
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Hurineth0: Flow control is off for TX and off for RX. - doeas ANYONE knows what does that mean, and how I can resolve this problem09:57
Hurin??09:57
HurinBecause of it, I can't connect to internet09:57
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n0rusapt-get install <what?> to get headers like "stdio.h, stdint.h etc."09:58
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moparfan90how do you paste in aterm?09:58
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jeff303n0rus: libstdC++09:59
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jeff303n0rus: something like that09:59
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NoUsen0rus you can search that kind of stuff at http://packages.ubuntu.com09:59
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jeff303n0rus: libc6 and libc6-dev for the straight up C stuff10:00
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Hurinmoparfan, use middle-click10:00
d3vhello, I've got a little problem with the Live CD with the error "[!!]  Enter preinstalled session when it is booting up10:00
judahxserver-org package is broken:  /tmp/xserver-xorg.config.177961: line 973: syntax error near unexpected token `)'10:00
judah13:03:48 @        judah | xserver-xorg failed to preconfigure, with exit status 210:00
judahfyi10:00
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burninglegioncan anyone help me with booting the ubuntu 5.10 live cd?10:01
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d3vburninglegion, do you have a similar problem to mine?10:02
DBOwhat is the problem?10:02
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obscuriteIs perl/CPAN broken on breezy? I can't install perl modules properly as root or via sudo with perl -MCPAN -e10:02
burninglegionwell, after the loading screen at the part where it says "loading gnome window manager"10:02
burninglegionmy computer just stalls10:02
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nikos_hello10:02
burninglegionoh yeah, i also have my monitor plugged into a nvidia geforce2 video card10:03
burninglegionif that is of any help10:03
nikos_does /run ls works for you guys through irssi?10:03
heerohello, anyone know how remove the all packages installed in ubuntu?10:03
heeroi want upgrade10:03
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heerobut im still having problems with dependences10:03
NoUse!tell heero about upgrade10:03
d3vhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~jdub/2005/synaptic-remove-all-packages-dialogue.jpg10:03
heero:O10:03
ZoohouseQucik question, I have ubuntu on sda and I want to install winxp on sdb. Prior to wanting to install win xp on sdb I had fedora on sda and ubuntu on sdb. Now when I pop in the winxp cd it says that there is no hard drives intalled on my computer... The same computer i am typing from.. What might it be? Does sdb need to be fat32 so that winxp would pick it up?10:04
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judahdisregard which is already disregarded.. dist-upgrade installed things without error. please move along.10:04
jeff303Zoohouse: I believe Windows insists on installing itself on the first partition10:04
Jimmey__Zoohouse, XP always wants to be on the first drive of your computer10:04
parpic2002hi10:05
obscuritenevermind, figure it out.10:05
scifiNoUse: steam installing now :O *crosses fingers*10:05
Zoohousejeff303, Jimmey__ so I have to install winxp first? I tried to do it first but it wouldn't pick up the drives10:05
sys8794Zoohouse however if you wipe (fdsik and format) sdb and then your xp should see that section and install to it (in theory it should)10:05
harisundnikos_ I was just wondering about your question.10:05
DBOZoohouse, SATA drives?10:05
jeff303Zoohouse: it's easist if you install Windows XP first on a clean drive (before any other partitions)10:05
harisundnikos_ What is /run ls supposed to be doing anyway?10:05
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harisundYou should have a script named ls for that, right?10:06
ZoohouseDBO, right, I have 2 SATA drives10:06
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DBOZoohouse, do you have the floppy disk your mobo came with?  You need that for windows to detect them10:06
|lostbyte|What gui tool you guys use to do wifi networking ?10:06
ZoohouseDBO, motherboard?10:06
harisund|lostbyte| I use the command line .. sorry :(10:07
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bunglehow do i install xfce10:07
DBOZoohouse, yeah, its a big green (usually) thing with all the fancy doodads on it, usually comes with a driver disk for the SATA drives (floppy)10:07
bungle!xfce10:07
ubotuwell, xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/10:07
|lostbyte|harisund: Ok ! i like the command line too.. =_10:07
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ZoohouseDBO, ah ok, never heard someone call the M.B by mobo lol10:08
Zoohouseok let me go check brb10:08
DBOreally?10:08
harisundbungle for xfce, you can install a meta package "xubuntu-desktop", either through command line or through synaptic.10:08
|lostbyte|harisund: Q. How to set an essid for your card ?10:08
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immoloiwconfig <iface> essid <insert essid here>10:08
harisund|lostbyte|, Assuming your wireless card is wlan0, I use the following command "sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode managed essid NameEssid key 12...."10:09
harisund|lostbyte| and then to get a IP address, I use "sudo dhclient wlan0" and that generally works for me.10:09
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|lostbyte|immolo: harisund Hold on ! :S i was told by #wireless that that command is used to connect to the essid specified ? are you sure...10:09
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ZoohouseDBO, can't find it in the box, let me check the site.10:10
_jim_im having problems with synaptic10:10
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harisund|lostbyte| Yes, why do you ask? Was there a problem trying that out?10:10
DBOZoohouse, what mobo?10:10
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immolo|lostbyte|, not unless my linux box is so clever it can do things by itself10:11
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|lostbyte|harisund: huh ? no, but my question was how i could set an essid for my card !10:11
_jim_i finally made it working , but when installing something i get this error every time : E: locales: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 410:11
CraiZEhey, how can i convert my video files to the PSP format?10:11
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harisundThe command that immolo suggested. iwcofig <interface_name> essid <essid_name>10:11
_jim_what should i do ?10:11
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immoloCraiZE, cvs ffmpeg10:11
CraiZEah10:11
|lostbyte|immolo: My card does'nt have an essid as i found out through iwconfig.10:11
CraiZEimmolo, you got a link10:11
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CraiZEfor me to get cvs ffmpeg?10:12
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harisund|lostbyte| You will have to associate your card with a wireless access point. The command for that is the one that immolo gave.10:12
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immoloCraiZE, not for the cvs on ubuntu but I know the windows version has been ported back to unix which gives better quailty10:12
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OetmetI have a Core Duo processor and I've read i got to download a kernel with SMP support10:12
CraiZEimmolo, well i just want to convert it10:13
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CraiZEyou said cvs ffmpeg10:13
Oetmetcan i download the regular kernel and enable SMP on it ?10:13
CraiZEbut i cant do much with that info10:13
CraiZE:S10:13
Oetmet2.6.16.1110:13
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Oetmetor do i have to download an special kernel10:13
immolouse cvs and download, configure/make10:13
immoloeasy :P10:13
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CraiZEoh my10:13
CraiZEcan you link me10:13
CraiZEto the ffmpeg CVS ?10:14
|lostbyte|harisund: This is going over my head, Wait.. so your saying to get an essid for me(wlan0), i have to connect to the Access point.10:14
immolouse google10:14
harisund|lostbyte| ok let me walk you through this one.10:14
CraiZEk10:14
_jim_hey guys , please , can you help me when you can ?10:14
geanbye all ! may the spirit of ubuntu be with u !10:14
_jim_cya10:14
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|lostbyte|harisund: :) ..10:14
ZoohouseDBO, can't find it on the asus site...10:14
harisund|lostbyte| You have a wireless router right? It creates a wireless network, with a name that you specify. That name is the essid.10:15
DBOZoohouse, well, i promise it came with a floppy disk, they all do.  Ive never seen a SATA mobo that didnt10:15
ZoohouseI used gparted to make sdb fat32.. thought that would help10:15
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harisund|lostbyte| The router acts as a access point, meaning other computers "access" the internet by connecting to the router.10:15
DBOZoohouse, its not even picking up the drives right?10:15
jeff303Zoohouse: I think that what Linux calls /dev/hda1 needs to be FAT or NTFS10:15
harisund|lostbyte| So for your computer to wireless connect to the internet, you have to tell it what network it should connect to, right?10:15
jeff303Zoohouse: otherwise the dumb Microsoft installer will think there is nowhere to install Windows10:16
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DBOjeff303, so long as the windows isntaller can pick up the drives, it can edit the partions regardless of their current state of formatting10:16
DBO(it might destroy the data, but it can do it)10:16
|lostbyte|harisund: yes.. ok10:16
|lostbyte|ok10:16
harisund|lostbyte| Your router might be the access point for a network called "lostbyte" .. your neighbour might have a wireless router that generates the network "neighbour"10:17
Zoohousejeff303, oh?10:17
|lostbyte|harisund: k10:17
harisund|lostbyte| and so on..if you want to see a list of wireless networks that your wireless card can pick up, execute the command "iwlist wlan0 scan | grep ESSID"10:17
ZoohouseDBO, not picking any up. It tells me to try turning them on10:17
harisund|lostbyte| that command will list out all the networks that your wireless card can see (which are generally the networks around your house...)10:17
|lostbyte|harisund: k10:18
DBOZoohouse, yeah, you need that floppy disk.  It will say RAID drivers or something of that sort10:18
harisund|lostbyte| Now you need to tell your wireless card what network to connect to. In other words, you need to tell it what "access point" to connect to. right?10:18
Zoohouseill look agin10:18
|lostbyte|harisund: yes..10:18
DBOZoohouse, when windows installer is just starting it will ask you to press F6 at some point, you do that, then later down the road it will ask for that floppy10:18
harisund|lostbyte| That is, if you remember the ESSID. So you first tell it the name of the essid.10:18
|lostbyte|harisund: ok10:18
harisund|lostbyte| the syntax for that is "iwconfig wlan0 essid lostbyte"10:19
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harisund"iwconfig" calls the wireless- configuration program. wlan0 is the "code-word" for your wireless card (it could be different.) essid is the command for it, and lostbyte is the name of the network it should join.10:19
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|lostbyte|harisund: got it.. and if another pc scans what will it display as my name ?10:19
Stormchaser'lo... Where can I find Drapper repository (want to upgrade my ubuntu)10:20
kbrooksHow do I find out my CD drive speed?10:20
harisundYou mean if somebody else is trying to access your wireless?10:20
|lostbyte|harisund: so the router is in adhoc mode and i am in managed..10:20
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Stormchaserkbrooks: o.O10:20
guerraanyone programs in fortran therE?10:20
ZoohouseDBO, doesn't ask me for a floppy...10:20
kbrooksStormchaser: ?10:20
Zoohouseunless i didn't see it10:20
harisundlostbyte: I am not sure what adhoc mode is, but generally wireless routers are not in ad hoc mode (atleast not by default) .. I think you have to make sure the router is also in managed mode only.10:21
Stormchaserkbrooks: Um... That should be written on the CD itself...10:21
DBOZoohouse, at the VERY beginning there will be a part where at the bottom it will say "press F6 if you need to install additional drivers" or something to that effect10:21
kbrooksStormchaser: "CD drive speed"10:21
DBOyou press F6 then, and then it will ask you for a floppy about 10 minutes later10:21
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ccc_Stormchaser: just change 'breezy' to 'dapper' (not drapper :) ) in your /etc/apt/sources.list and run apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade10:22
kbrooksStormchaser: on the cd? i havent heard of such a CD that shows that10:22
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harisund|lostbyte| but yes, by executing "iwconfig wlan0 mode managed" you ask your wireless card to be in managed mode.10:22
ZoohouseDBO, i might have overlooked that10:22
|lostbyte|harisund: ok ! i understand now..10:22
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|lostbyte|harisund: Is it easy to set the pc to adhoc mode ?10:22
OetmetI have a core duo processor... and have read i have to download a SMP enabled kernel.. is this the same than downloading the regular kernel and enabling SMP support?10:22
Oetmeto10:22
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Oetmetor i just have to apt-get the smp kernel10:22
kbrooksOetmet: apt-get it10:23
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harisund|lostbyte| I think so, but I don't know the command for that. If you want your wireless router to broadcast IP address, and you are using it to connect to the internet, you need managed mode.10:23
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Oetmetkbrooks: ok but once i download it, it will boot as the default kernel?10:23
Oetmetor what?10:23
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_jim_hey guys , i cant run some tools like synaptic by Gnome10:23
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moparfan90hello. does anyone know if theres a channel for openbox?10:23
|lostbyte|harisund: Alright.. ok..10:23
_jason_jim_: what happens when you try?10:23
kbrooksOetmet: it will show as a entry in grub10:23
harisund|lostbyte| I think ad hoc mode is more of a device-device connection, kind of temporary, stuff like blue tooth etc .. typically for multiplayer gaming (atleast that['s what wikipedia says)10:23
_jim_it aint running10:23
_jim_nothing happens10:23
kbrooksOetmet: apt-get will install it for you10:23
_jim_its like it trying to load it10:24
_jason_jim_: what does 'sudo echo hi' do in a terminal?10:24
|lostbyte|harisund: Makes sence now..10:24
Oetmetlinux-686-smp is ok for Core Duo's ?10:24
|lostbyte|harisund: thanks so much..10:24
_jim_it does nothing10:24
_jim_run as root ?10:24
Oetmetit says PIV, when I thought Core Duos are like PVII10:24
Oetmetheh10:24
harisund|lostbyte| Of course, it doesn't end there. Once you have set your wireless card parameters, you will need to instruct the wireless card to ask the router for an IP address.10:24
_jason_jim_: paste the output as 'groups' please10:24
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harisund|lostbyte| which is done using the "sudo dhclient wlan0" command. Get it?10:24
_jason_jim_: s/as/of10:24
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|lostbyte|harisund: What if i am not using dhcp..10:25
_jim_jason sorry im not getting u10:25
_jason_jim_: type 'groups', it is a command.  Then copy and paste the output so we can see it10:25
harisund|lostbyte| Hmm.... How are you connecting to your router?10:25
_jim_ok , by root ?10:25
_jason_jim_: no, no root10:25
_jim_jimoupas@10:~$ groups10:25
_jim_jimoupas adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner10:25
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|lostbyte|harisund: oh.. ok ok.. got you.. but if i keep a static ip for my router..10:26
_jason_jim_: is this the first user created during install?10:26
sambagirldid seveas quit ubuntu? like bob2?10:26
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mweno admin there10:26
_jim_yes10:26
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|lostbyte|harisund: then i dont have to do the dhclient.10:26
_jason_jim_: did you do an expert install?10:26
harisund|lostbyte| What exactly do you mean "static IP for my router"?10:26
_jim_yes10:26
sambagirlsirkillalot you played ET yes?10:26
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_jasonubotu: tell _jim_ about expert10:26
harisund|lostbyte| With wireless the general practice is dhcp only. If you want your machine to have a static IP, you set that in the router/10:26
Seveassambagirl, no10:26
|lostbyte|harisund: If i turn off dhcp on my router.. that is..10:27
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sambagirlohh hello seveas10:27
|lostbyte|harisund: ok10:27
Seveassambagirl, I'm just very busy with bugs10:27
harisund|lostbyte| If you turn off the DHCP in your router.. hmmm.. I am not sure if it would work.. you could try .. never tried that before.10:27
_jim__jason run this as root ?10:27
OetmetAnyone using a Core Duo processor on Linux?10:27
_jason_jim_: yes10:27
sambagirlwell you better get some bug spray and go to hospital fast for protection and i would avoid those types of associations too ;).10:27
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_jim__jason god bless you man!10:28
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jasonthanks?10:28
sambagirlis seveas a programmer for ubuntu?10:29
MM2I hate this: dapper installer installed a system with no user accounts. I rebootet to maintenache-mode and added password to root and an account. But things are wrong...10:29
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sambagirlis there anything really really super exciting coming up for the next release of Ubuntu?10:29
Seveassambagirl, not really, I write occasional patches and have made a few packages10:29
ZoohouseDBO,  VIA VT8237 SATA RAID 64-bit driver v4.30C (WHQL). Thats it?10:30
jasoncan you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?10:30
_jim__jason , i tried to install something by synaptic but im getting this error : E: locales: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 410:30
kbrookssambagirl: seveas doesnt really code10:30
kbrooksSeveas: few? don't you mean many?10:30
sambagirlwell who is the leader for Ubuntu?10:30
kbrooksleader?10:30
kingspawnhey, anyone know of a program that probes my videocard's clockcycles and outputs them to me?10:30
_jason_jim_: what are you trying to install? does that happen with other things?10:31
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kbrookssambagirl: well, if you want our SABDFL:10:31
kbrooks!sabdfl10:31
ubotusabdfl is probably Mark Shuttleworth, cosmonaut and founder of Canonical and Ubuntu10:31
Seveaskbrooks, one package so far which is in ubuntu, and some pathces landed in Ubuntu too10:31
_jim__jason yeah with everything im trying to install10:31
harisundThat's interesting, we have both a _jason and a jason. Anyway, jason from which machine are you trying to connect to which machine?10:31
_jim_i cant even update my ubuntu10:31
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sambagirlwell i received a box of cd's for different platforms and it had to be from the leader of Ubuntu. I wonder how they can afford to send from Europa this box of 20 cd's atleast? i did give out to my friends them tho.10:32
_jason_jim_: taking a shot in the dark: dpkg-reconfigure locales10:32
kbrookssambagirl: it was not from him alone10:32
sambagirlahh ok10:32
_jim_as root ?10:32
kbrookssambagirl: it was from canonical10:32
sambagirl a covenant10:32
mDotsambagirl and its shipped out of south america10:32
sambagirlwow10:32
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kbrooksmDot: incorrect10:32
_jim_yes...10:32
kbrooksmDot: south america10:33
scifiNoUse: u here m8?10:33
mDotand if you order 1 or 100 is cost the company the same10:33
kbrookser10:33
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kbrooksmDot: south africa10:33
_jim__jason /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed10:33
sambagirlthis is so much more thrilling then anything that windows does.10:33
mDotkbrooks must be time for my nap =P10:33
_jim_:*-(10:33
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ziutsiemka!10:33
sambagirlthere needs to be some commercials on the media to make it even more popular. imagine if there were 10 million users in this channel right now asking for support :D.10:33
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mDotsambagirl scary though10:34
jimcooncatsambagirl, hopefully there'd be another channel10:34
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_jim_is there a way to fix locales ?10:34
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ziutsorry #ubuntu.pl not #ubuntu10:34
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_jason_jim_: not sure what to suggest, sorry10:35
gnomefreak_jim_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales i think is the command10:35
sambagirlwho ever organized the whole ubuntu structure is very international in thinking...global.10:35
gnomefreakor use the language menu option10:35
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_jim_same problem ...... it saying its broken10:36
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harisundsambagirl, indeed.. I wonder whether any poll has been conducted to find out the localities of Ubuntu users ... and find out whethere there is a concentration in any particular country.10:36
scifiwhen i start steam, the login box appears, i can see the boxes but there is no words on anything, anyone else have the same problem ?10:36
sambagirlis there a plan for a big ubuntu users party or conference or like what they do for Amiga computer? something humungous? something in maybe the french riviera or Rio or Maui?10:36
jimcooncatwhere was the last one, Toronto?10:37
OffHandharisund, there are10:37
jimcooncatI like your venues better10:37
harisundOffHand yeah I would expect that ..10:37
ZoohouseDBO, still there?10:37
OffHandI can confirm it10:37
OffHandit's somewhere on the forums10:38
sambagirlwell harisund i think that all users should make an effort to make local user groups and this is how you can learn this otherwise the only other way i can think if there is a web counter that stores the ip for dowloads from the website and maintining the distribution regions you could get close in determining that.10:38
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harisundOffHand, on the forums, ah yes ! most likely .. sambagirl, that's true.. you will need a counter .. and perhaps some mechanism to count only unique IP addresses...10:39
sambagirlnow i am curious to know if there is any report by any major corporations as to whether they are using ubuntu in testing for deploykents in their various operations?10:39
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d3vhello, I've got a little problem with the Live CD with the error "[!!]  Enter preinstalled session" when it is booting up and the CD check said "./casper/filesystem.cloop file failed to MD5 checksum" does anybody know how I could solve this? I have burnt a second downloaded iso and the exact same happened10:40
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gnomefreaksambagirl, your best bet is to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic this is a support channel10:40
sambagirlwell i am sure that the website is already maintining raw data on downloads etc..10:40
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kbrookssambagirl: please10:40
kgrimm_how do i disable gdm/xdm so a server is not wasting resources?10:40
sambagirlthey dont talk abbout anytthing interesting in there.10:40
sambagirlok10:40
sambagirlok10:40
kbrookssambagirl: not a excuse10:40
OffHandd3v, did you do a md5sum on the iso?10:41
kbrookssambagirl: START a topic10:41
_jim_please , anyone knows how i can fix my locales ? it says its broken10:41
mnemnonicI need to count files that are in all subtrees of a directory, has anyone an idea how to do that? (console)10:41
d3vi did a md5 check thing on the one i downloaded (from ubuntu) and it came up correct10:41
ljlmnemnonic: find | wc -l10:41
simonpca++10:41
OffHandhow fast did you burn it d3v?10:42
ljlmnemnonic: you might want to refine that to avoid counting directories, and stuff like that (man find)10:42
scifianyone know how to install tahoma.tff font for steam in ubuntu ?10:42
d3vfirst time very fast 2nd i took advice on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=123440 and did it at x810:42
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mnemnonicljl: Aren't there blank lines in the output?10:42
harisundnalioth: exactly ..10:43
OffHandhmmm10:43
ljlmnemnonic: no, 'find' is supposed to just output a newline-separated list of files/directories, no blanks10:43
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mnemnonicljl: Ok, thx10:43
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naliothharisund: hmm?10:44
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fidis there a way to configure the grub boot loader to default to windows?10:44
harisundnalioth: wrong window. I meant to type that in the offtopic channel, regarding the process-quitting in Windows.10:44
gnomefreak!grub10:44
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting10:44
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ljlmnemnonic: the way to make it avoid counting directories too would be "find -type f | wc -l"10:44
nicolitohello, can anyone help me?? When I plug a NTFS formatted USB disk it is write protected, and I cannot save anything on it (nor change the propierties)10:45
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ljlnicolito: you can not and should not save to ntfs from linux10:45
_jasonnicolito: linux can't safely write to ntfs10:45
mathieucorrection: there are no _free_ drivers that can safely write ntfs10:45
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nicolitoljl, _jason... why?????10:45
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_jasonnicolito: microsoft doesn't disclose the specifications for ntfs so people can't write in support for it10:46
Hattorii'm experiencing this problem after the apt-get update/upgrade... how to solve please? http://pastebin.com/68319510:46
Hattorifollowed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP but still got same problem10:46
ljlnicolito: because write support is extremely flaky (basically, there is none) --- i think the reason for that is mostly lack of open specifications10:46
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nicolito_jason, so no way to use this USB DISK???10:46
_jasonnicolito: format it as something else10:46
mnemnonicljl: Counting directories is ok for my particular problem ... trying to figure out how many inodes I need to copy lot's of files from a cd ;)10:46
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_jasonnicolito: fat is good since both widnows and linux can write to it10:47
mathieubut fat itself is crap10:47
ljl_jason: yeah, unfortunately it's bad for a few other reasons10:47
nicolito_jason ok, thanks very much for your help10:47
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nicolitothanks very much LJL10:47
mcmillenanyone know of a good way to make GNOME not look like KDE after logging in to KDE once? i seem to be stuck with KDE's blue highlights, even though i'm using the ubuntu "Human" theme in GNOME (this is on Dapper Beta)10:47
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_jasonljl: yeah for transfering docs on a usb disk i think it's the best option though10:48
IncipitFiniswhats up all10:48
ljl_jason: agreed - unfortunately10:48
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IncipitFinisOk, this is really noobish, but how do I get a p2p program running on ubuntu?10:49
_jason!p2p10:49
ubotup2p is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo10:49
ljl_jason: ext2 might also be an option... there is more than one ext2 driver for Windows, some with write support... would be interesting to investigate how robust they are10:49
IncipitFinisoic10:49
IncipitFinisthanks10:49
scifianyone know how to install tahoma.ttf font for steam in ubuntu ?10:49
zythbe a real man and use HPFS.10:49
zythos/2 4 ever!10:49
zyth:P10:49
HymnToLifeljl> Ext2Fsd works pretty wel for read/write10:50
_jasonljl: they seem to work well, if you are allowed to install the driver on the windows computers you use that is :)10:50
IncipitFiniswhat about wine?10:50
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IncipitFinishow do I install wine, I mean lol10:50
bluefoxicy2Hey guys I'm trying to merge an SQLDump into a new MySQL 4.1 install on Breezy, did nothing but install, ideas?10:50
ljl_jason: yes, of course... if what we're talking about is a standard USB key that one uses to load stuff to/from other people's computers, then FAT is definitely the only real option10:51
bluefoxicy2(too lazy to google)10:51
bluefoxicy2is this gonna be more than 1 command10:51
mathieubluefoxicy2: IT DON'T WORK!!!111 HELP MEE!!11!!10:51
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bluefoxicy2mathieu, I'm asking questions, not answering, try me later10:52
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mathieui hope that's irony10:52
Mactel :)10:52
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Mactel:D10:53
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kingspawnoh, that was just precious10:53
kingspawnfantastic10:53
mzinzI used to use Gnome exclusively, then I made the switch to KDE.  Do I still need Gnome installed? Is there a way to remove it, along with *most* of the gnome programs?10:54
ljlmzinz: you could remove libgnome, that would sweep almost everything away10:55
HymnToLifemzinz> try removing a "core" GNOME app like Evolution or Nautilus10:55
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IncipitFiniscan you install kde from gnome?10:55
linux_drivehi ............10:55
ljlIncipitFinis: of course10:55
mzinzljl: would it remove the actual gnome desktop *and* the applications?10:55
Mactelmzinz: In terminal, type sudo apt-get remove libgnome. :)10:55
_jim_please , anyone knows how i can fix my locales ? it says its broken10:55
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zythIncipitFinis, sure10:56
mwemzinz: sudo apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common10:56
ljlmzinz: it would remove everything that depends on the gnome libraries... so yes, mostly10:56
ljlmzinz: might leave some GTK-only apps, like perhaps the GIMP, but those are not really Gnome apps anyway and you might want to keep them10:56
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mzinzljl: thats what i was hoping10:56
mwemzinz: that works, I did it. then remove the rest if anything is left in aptitude10:57
mzinzmwe: thank u10:57
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DaSkreec1can I hold a package in Ubuntu?10:57
DaSkreec1Or rather in apt?10:57
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ljlmzinz: after that, you could do a "dpkg -l | grep ii | grep gnome" too check if any libraries are left installed10:57
relbsanyone know how to prevent gnome-cups-icon from starting up with a gnome login session?10:57
odyssey12386hello10:57
moparfan90does anyone here use openbox?10:57
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Zoohousejeff303, I can't find the drivers for sata :(10:58
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mweDaskreec1: yes. I'm not that familiar with synaptic but in aptitude it's straight forward10:58
Daskreec1mwe: Ah. ok So it's client based?10:58
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Zoohousejeff303, you think it is the lack of driver the problem?10:58
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scifianyone know how to install tahoma.ttf font for steam in ubuntu ?10:59
fiendskull9scifi, lol. yeah man, hold on10:59
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kgrimm_how do i disable gdm/xdm at startup so a server is not wasting resources?10:59
mzuverinkIf I want to go back from dapper to breezy, can I not format the drive that contains only /home and format the the other drive that contains / and not have issues in Breezy?11:00
vr_how do i force apt-get to say "yes" without my interaction?11:00
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_jasonkgrimm_: system > administration > services, or man update-rc.d11:00
fiendskull9scifi, dont use easy-ubuntu, or automatix, they install it in a werid folder wine doesnt reconize11:00
Plukkgrimm_, sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove11:00
ljlvr_: "apt-get -y"11:00
mathieukgrimm_: remove gdm and xdm?11:00
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vr_ljl: thanks11:00
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ljlvr_: or the verbose version of the same option, "apt-get --assume-yes"11:00
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vr_ljl: great. how about incorporating a password? is it anything like sudo apt-get -p password ?11:01
mwekgrimm_: or use rcconf11:01
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scififiendskull9: ive not tried easy-ubuntu or automatix. i gathered ive got to download the core fonts and install them, but im not sure exactly which files i need and HOW to install them11:01
ljlvr_: note that, in some situations that apt-get considers particularly sensitive, that option will simply make apt-get abort11:01
vr_i see11:01
ljlvr_: a password for what?11:01
vr_ljl: for sudo operations11:02
kgrimm_thanks11:02
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fiendskull9scifi, are you nickserved?11:02
mzuverink_jason: That Open Office problem with the buttons disappearing returned again in my Dapper install, it returned right after i installed Kubuntu-desktop.11:02
ljlvr_: can't think of a way right now, but anyway, i *would not* do anything like that11:02
_jasonmzuverink: maybe you can check to see if it has been reported as a bug, and you might want to report it yourself if you can recreate it11:03
ljlvr_: what is it that you're trying to accomplish? perhaps it can be "taken sideways"11:03
fiendskull9scifi, look for my dialog window in your bottom bar of xchat11:03
scififiendskull9: if u mean is my nick registered then no :P11:03
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_jim_fiendskull9 i need some help to install fonts too :)11:03
scififiendskull9: im using gaim and yes i replied as "andyt"11:03
vr_ljl: im trying to make this huge "alias" for bash that installs everything for me. kind of like a script.11:03
vr_for a fresh install11:03
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vr_i wanted to make it unattended.11:03
fiendskull9_jim_, and scifi - join #skachat real quick.....11:04
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mzuverink_jason: it has hapened twice now with a kubuntu install, plus all the window notification buttons on my bottom panel get a odd baby blue tint to them as well11:04
momo3http://israel.275mb.com/index2.php  <- - -    11:04
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blindxheyyy can someone help me set up a wired network connection? i tried both DHCP and Static, but I'm not getting anything.11:04
ljlvr_: well, can't you write a script, and then run the *whole* script from sudo? you'd only have to type the password once, at the beginning, and then go away and drink coffee11:04
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vr_ljl: yes, you're right. i got it now, thank you11:05
teohi there! :)11:05
ljlvr_: now, i suppose you could make that script suid root, too, so that you'd have to type no password at all... but that's a *huge* security issue11:07
vr_true11:08
vr_i'll leave it as is11:08
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ingwehi11:09
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Sodiumis there any progress on macromedia developing shockwave for us?11:10
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mweI don't think so11:11
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elaoufisalut11:12
elaoufi$11:12
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kevorHi, what repository do i need to add to get mplayer?11:12
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mweuniverse11:13
FunnyLookinHatHas anyone here used Ubuntu with a bluetooth mouse?11:13
_jasonkevor: multiverse11:13
OffHandlol11:13
mweoh yes11:13
_jasonubotu: tell kevor about mplayer11:13
mwemultiverse ...11:13
kevori got those commented out repossies enabled, but still no mplayer11:13
_jasonmwe: although why multiverse and not universe, I have no clue11:13
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_jasonkevor: you need to actually add multiverse, it's not in the comments11:13
_jasonubotu: tell kevor about sources11:14
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kevoroooh, ok :D11:14
gnomefreaksounds like he has backports enabled11:14
kevor_jason: what line do i need to add multithingy to?11:14
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_jasonkevor: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and I can tell you11:14
_jason!pastebin11:14
ubotusomebody said pastebin was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126911:14
mcmillenany idea why, after upgrading to dapper beta, that a bittorrent tracker is started at bootup?11:15
gnomefreakkevor, on the lines that start with the word deb and end with the word universe put a space after universe and add the word multiverse11:15
_jasonmcmillen: #ubuntu+1 please for dapper11:15
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dracflamlochello11:15
kevorgnomefreak: also lines that end on restricted?11:15
dracflamlocwhere are samba shares mounted in ubuntu when i use the "connect to server" item int he places menu11:16
gnomefreakkevor, the lines that end with universe11:16
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kevorok sorry, did that, let's try11:16
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kevorWorks, /me hugs gnomefreak11:16
kevorthank you for you quick and powerful help :P11:16
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gnomefreakanytime ;)11:17
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alpha-onehi all, i have a problem with my starting (login) screen. when i start gnome a black window appears (called login or screen manager or something like that) and prompts me for a user and a pw which is noch my regular one11:17
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kevorgnomefreak: can't install it because it deps on some files, do you know what that is about?11:17
Eduardo_Boa tarde11:17
gnomefreakkevor, sudo apt-get update11:18
Eduardo_Algum do Brasil?11:18
_jason!br11:18
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.11:18
kevordid that11:18
dracflamlocdoes anyone know where samba shares are mounted ubuntu?11:18
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_jasonkevor: what does it say is missing?11:18
kevoryes it says the follow packages have unmet deps: mpalyer-568. depends: libfaad2-0 libflame0 libxvidcore411:19
gnomefreakkevor, paste full error on pastebin if you can11:19
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_jason!info libfaad2-011:19
ubotulibfaad2-0: (freeware Advanced Audio Decoder - runtime files), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 193 kB, Installed size: 544 kB11:19
gnomefreakkevor, sudo aptitude install mplayer-58611:19
gnomefreakkevor, if your using 586 arch11:19
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gnomefreaklibfaad is needed oh yeah i guess it would be11:19
alpha-onecan anyone help me with my login problem ?11:19
_jasonkevor: sources.list > pastebin :)11:20
kevorgnomefreak: did exactly this: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install mplayer-586 (p4 here, so that's the good one)11:20
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kevoryes _jason :)11:20
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kevorurl of pastebin? :$11:20
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_jasonkevor: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11:20
dracflamlochi11:20
ebbheadI need to change from utf-8 to sv_SE.iso8859-1 ..  dpkg-reconfigure locales is somewhat "broken" in dapper flight 6..  anyone know anything aobut this ?11:20
mwe_jason: I think mplayer is in multiverse because of the license though I'm not into the details11:20
gnomefreakkevor, than install libfaad   use instructions on !restricted  lets see errors first11:20
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_jim_ebbhead im getting same error on 5.1011:20
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ebbheadoK11:21
gnomefreakebbhead, try #ubuntu+1 for dapper and filght 6 you shouldnt have installed11:21
_jim_it says its broken ..11:21
ebbheadgnomefreak .. OK . thanks. What do you mean about nog having installed flight 6 ?11:21
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mwe_jason: but then again isn't it GPL'ed ?11:22
kevorgnomefreak, _jason  pastebinned it11:22
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gnomefreakebbhead, once its installed you run apt-get upgrade or do your updates and you are pushed to newest version of packages11:22
gnomefreakkevor, can you paste the link in here11:22
_jasonmwe: yeah, my guess is they get support for some things by using stuff that isn't gpl'd11:22
ebbheadgnomefreak: .. yes, that's the GOOD part.11:22
kevorhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1294111:22
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gnomefreakebbhead, so if your updated you can leave off the flight 611:23
mwe_jason: maybe so11:23
_jasonkevor: you missed some lines 41 and 42 on the pastebin11:23
moparfan90im trying to install a python file and i get a error saying /makefile cannot be found11:23
selmanjQuestion:  I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu onto my Pentium 4 hyperthreading system.  It will boot from cd, then it seems to freeze at the keyboard selection.  As far as I can tell, the keyboard and mouse both freeze after it boots.  If I try to pass the kernel option "acpi=off" or "acpi=ht", I get a kernel panic...  any ideas?11:23
moparfan90what should i do?11:23
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ebbheadgnomefreak .. yes, well I'm updated, so I guess I'm not on flight 6 anymore. Anyway it's broken locales. I'll change channel now. Thanks !11:23
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kevorok :)11:25
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i3dmasterhow to rename the printers created in gnome-cups-manager?11:26
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kevor_jason: retrying now, thanks11:26
Edisonhi everyone11:26
i3dmasterthey all named like Queue, Queue-1 and so forth...11:26
kevor_jason: it works now :)11:26
kevorgnomefreak: thanks for you trouble, again :P11:26
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gnomefreakkevor, im here to help never trouble11:26
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mwei3dmaster: in kde you just right click it, can't you do the same in gnome?11:26
Edisoni have a question how can i change file permissions??11:27
mweEdison: chmod11:27
gnomefreakEdison, man chmod11:27
Edison??11:27
mwegnomefreak: copycat11:27
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gnomefreak;)11:27
_jasonEdison: right click > properties > permissions, works too11:27
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i3dmastermwe, I can change, but the there is only a close button, after close, the name didn't get changed11:27
Edisonthanks11:27
kevorEdison: chmod ugo+rwx (ugo= user group other) ( + means on you can also youse -) (rwx is read write execute)11:27
poningrudont bother with all of that11:28
Edisonim learning how to use ubuntu lol11:28
poningrujust learn the numbering system11:28
kevorponingru: that's hard for newbies :)11:28
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mwei3dmaster: I don't know. it sounds a bit broken then11:28
poningruno its not thats easier11:28
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poningruwell it was easier for me11:28
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Edisonbut _jason i cant change filesystem permissions11:28
i3dmastermwe, I think it is11:28
Edisonthat way11:28
kevorponingru: i'm dislectic.. so i'm scared of numbers ;)11:28
poningruhehe11:28
_jasonEdison: you can only change permissions for files you own.  What file are you trying to change?11:29
Edisonim trying to change a user file11:29
mweEdison: file system perms?11:29
Edisonyes11:29
mweEdison: what's that?11:29
i3dmastermwe, I was trying to see if anyone knows if the gnome-cups-manager reads any conf file so I can just edit the conf file and change the names instead of going to GUI11:29
fiendskull9!locales11:29
ubotumethinks locales is at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LocaleConf11:29
gnomefreakEdison, chmod <parameters> <path/to/file>11:30
produkt_j/ #mepis11:30
mwei3dmaster: Well I believe you can edit the cups conf files by hand11:30
produkt_oops11:30
Mars^Hi i need some help. I will ask here cause i am using ubuntu and i feel it is the right thing. I want to learn how to write apps. I will start with C. Schould i use special course for linux system, or these for windows will be good?11:30
green__saotomehi guys11:30
kingspawnMars^: get one that is linux specific11:30
ElazarUsing Synaptic to do a complete removal of gPHPEdit doesn't seem to have gotten rid of the option I get to open it in the menu that appears when I right-click on a file. Any ideas on how I can do that? I tried reinstalling it and doing a complete removal again to make sure that something odd didn't happen when I originally completely removed it, but the menu option is still there.11:30
green__saotomei'm still trying to switch over from the dark side, what can i use to handle my podcast subscriptions?11:31
gnomefreakEdison, if you want it to be read + writable for everyone it would look something like chmod a+x ~/file     if a file in your home dir11:31
produkt_the windows one should be okish for console apps shouldn't it?11:31
mweMars^: if the programs rely only on ansi c any book is good11:31
i3dmastermwe, edited printers.conf but when I open gnome-cups-manager, it still using those old names11:31
Edisonthats the one11:31
Edisonthanks let me try11:31
mweMars^: if they explicitly use the win32 API they won't work in linux11:31
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mwei3dmaster: that sounds odd11:31
i3dmastermwe, very11:32
mwei3dmaster: does it update if you restart cupsys?11:32
mwei3dmaster: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart11:32
i3dmastermwe, I can try11:32
NickGarveyElazar: rebooting to get everything back to defaults?11:32
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ElazarNickGarvey: *rae* Rebooting? Huh? I'm not running off a Live CD, if that's what you meant.11:33
i3dmastermwe, no unfortunately11:33
ElazarNickGarvey: I have rebooted since I did the removal of gPHPEdit, though, and that hadn't had any effect.11:33
mwei3dmaster: I don't think I can help then. maybe someone else ...11:33
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i3dmastermwe, haha.. you know what, I changed from the KDE printer manager.11:34
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i3dmastermwe, I think the gnome one is just broken11:34
jasoncan you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?11:34
Edisonthanks everyone for the help bye11:34
jasoncan you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?11:34
jasoncan you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?11:34
jasoncan you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?11:34
jasoncan you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?11:34
jasoncan you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?11:34
jasoncan you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?11:34
jasoncan you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?11:34
NickGarvey!ops11:34
jasoncan you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?11:34
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee11:34
gnomefreakjason,11:34
jasoncan you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?11:34
jasoncan you do a remote conection between a windows and  inux machine?11:34
_jim_omg11:34
tdnCan anyone help me fix my locale. I get this error alle the time: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1294211:34
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NickGarveythank you11:34
digenphew11:34
apokryphosspeedy ;-)11:34
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gnomefreakoh that wasnt _jason11:35
_jasonheh11:35
gnomefreaklol11:35
Seveasnot the first time...11:35
Seveasgnomefreak, no, _jason is a good guy 11:35
gnomefreaki know i was confused for a sec11:35
ElazarI guess a better question would be, how do I remove a file type-program association?11:35
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tdnI am wondering if my message got lost in the flood. Would it be ok to resend it maybe? :)11:35
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gnomefreaktdn, yeah go ahead11:36
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_jasonElazar: can't you right click > properties > open with, and remove it there?11:36
tdngnomefreak, ok.11:36
tdnCan anyone help me fix my locale. I get this error alle the time: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1294211:36
_jim_im getting error that my locale is broken and cant install or update anything please help11:36
gnomefreaktdn, _jim_  ok you guys need to look at launchapd bugs nad see if ther eis one already if not please file one11:36
gnomefreak!bug11:37
ubotubugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs11:37
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Elazar_jason: Not that I'm seeing, no.11:37
_jasonElazar: is it listed there?11:37
Seveastdn, your LC_CTYPE and LC_ALL are broken. Fic that11:37
SeveasFix that even11:37
Elazar_jason: Ah, wait... OK, found it. Thanks. :P11:37
tdngnomefreak, I really don't think that my problem is a bug in Ubuntu.11:37
ElazarAnother question: is there a way to remove arrows on symbolic links? (i.e. when they're located on the desktop)11:37
gnomefreaktdn, im seeing it with more than just you people in dapper are having issue also and _jim_11:38
_jim_im on 5.1011:38
gnomefreaktdn, should be also11:38
tdngnomefreak, ok. Actually I am not running Dapper.11:38
gnomefreaktdn, i know read what _jim_ posted11:38
tdngnomefreak, hmm... Ok. I have the same problem on a Debian Stable box too...11:39
tdngnomefreak, related?11:39
_jim_i cant install anything or update :(11:39
gnomefreaktdn, that tells me its not just you11:39
gnomefreak_jim_, did sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales work?>11:39
tdngnomefreak, ok. I'll just wait and see if it fixes itself in some time ;)11:39
_jim_no11:39
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_jim_root@10:/home/jimoupas# dpkg-reconfigure locales11:40
_jim_/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed11:40
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Elazar_jason: Any idea about that one?11:40
gnomefreak_jim_, run sudo apt-get update please11:40
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_jim_done11:40
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gnomefreak_jim_, any updates?11:41
_jim_Reading package lists... Done11:41
gnomefreak_jim_, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:41
_jasonElazar: nope, but you could make it a launcher instead11:41
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Mon_anyone succesfully used sshfs?11:42
_jim_im getting 4 lines error...11:42
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_jim_post them here ?11:42
gnomefreak_jim_, can you paste them to pastebin please11:42
_jim_sure11:42
gnomefreak!pastebin11:42
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126911:42
_jim_ill paste the whole thing11:43
Elazar_jason: Hm... how do I go about doing that?11:43
Elazar_jason: Ah, NM, found it.11:43
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_jim_gnomefreak http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1294311:43
gnomefreak_jim_, while im looking at this can you open system>preff>languages   or language selector cant remember name but open it and let it do what it needs to let me know if it updates itsself or errors11:44
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gnomefreakium writing my last disk finally (might make it to ubuntu11:44
_jim_i cant find languages option...11:44
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gnomefreak_jim_, system>admin>languages i guess than11:45
_jim_ah language selector ?11:45
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_jim_i cant update any language....11:46
dracflamlocanyone know a way to make a window close when you double click the top-left icon in the titlebaR?11:46
dracflamloc(in gnome)11:46
_jim_same error11:46
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gnomefreak_jim_, yes also try this and look for how to configure locales11:47
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gnomefreaklocaledef --help11:47
gnomefreak^^^ _jim_11:47
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erpoIs there a way to do WPA without wpa_supplicant? I was hoping for something along the lines of iwconfig eth1 channel # essid <whatever> wpakey s:mywpakey11:47
george-remphi, my ubuntu cannot read any dvd-rom,it shows that there is no files in the disk...can anyone help??11:47
gnomefreakhmmmmm wonder if localdef --config works11:47
_jim_hey gnomefreak > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1294411:47
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_jim_lets tr11:48
_jim_try*11:48
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J_Phi all11:48
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daddiussup11:48
_jim_root@10:/home/jimoupas# localdef --config11:49
_jim_bash: localdef: command not found11:49
gnomefreakhmmmmmmmmm11:49
_jim_:(11:49
gnomefreak_jim_, the last paste was from localdef --help or whatever the command was?11:49
FlameSphereIs there an actual place I can suggest stuff11:50
gimmulf_3Hi, i just installed Ruby thru synaptic but when i type "ruby" in shell nothing happens :/ its just waiting and no error msg11:50
fiendskull9gimmulf_3, i have same prob11:50
J_Ppeople, I have ubuntu 5.10, and I am using redir program and doing this : "redir --laddr=200.xxx.xxx.xxx --lport=9000 --caddr=192.168.0.195 --cport=80  --debug", but this isn't working, but I test this comand in debian sarge and are working, version is equal (2.0). In ubuntu redir receive conection but cannot redirect it... Anyone have anyone idea ?11:50
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_jim_sorry mate , what do u mena11:50
gnomefreakgimmulf_3, what are you expecting it to do?11:50
_jim_mean*11:50
NoUseFlameSphere report a bug of severity "wishlist"11:50
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gimmulf_3gnomefreak: give me a prompt or something11:50
fiendskull9gnomefreak, it should pop up with an IDE, its for programming in ruby11:50
_jim_lol omg11:51
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brendananyone know how to set up /etc/network/interfaces to put both a static inet4 and inet6 address on eth0 ?11:51
gnomefreaklocaledef --help  this _jim_11:51
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gnomefreakfiendskull9, well that would depend because ruby is just a lanuage no? you would have to install an ide or use a text editor?11:51
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gnomefreaki thought rub file.ruby or whatever the .ext is would run a ruby app11:52
gnomefreaks/rub/ruby11:52
gnomefreakmeaning the word ruby would be for interpreter11:53
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gnomefreakbrb _jim_ let me know if you see a way to run the --config11:53
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_jim_k11:53
RootSnatchhey guys11:53
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scififiendskull9: u there m8?11:53
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RootSnatchI am trying to compile xbnbt and I type make xbnbt in the correct directory and it says make is not found11:54
RootSnatchI am using a brand new version of 5.1011:54
PVZhey,does anybody experienced speaks portuguese here to help me on private?11:54
PVZplease11:54
_jasonRootSnatch: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'11:54
_jason!pt11:54
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.11:54
PVZthank you very much11:54
PVZand im sorry for entering here11:54
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scifihey guys i have CS running in software mode but its Extremely jerky, anyway tweaks to get hardware acceleration working ?11:55
luckyshotdoes anyone know shell scripting??11:55
luckyshotnot too advanced level11:55
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_jasonluckyshot: just ask your question11:55
hyphenatedluckyshot: the guys in #bash do11:55
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luckyshotthanks11:55
hyphenatedor just ask it here11:56
J_Ppeople, I have ubuntu 5.10, and I am using redir program and doing this : "redir --laddr=200.xxx.xxx.xxx --lport=9000 --caddr=192.168.0.195 --cport=80  --debug", but this isn't working, but I test this comand in debian sarge and are working, version is equal (2.0). In ubuntu redir receive conection but cannot redirect it... Anyone have anyone idea ?11:56
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gnomefreakok _jim_ what did you find?11:56
thecrazymonk86hey, i was messing with my sound using a guide and it told me to restart, i restart then go to log in, after typing in my pass i get this error: /usr/bin/gnome-session: erro while loading shared libraries: libesd.so.0" cannot open shared object file: Error 40, it wont let me log in11:56
_jim_hmm11:56
FlameSphereis there a place i can go to just suggest ideas11:57
brendananyone know how to set up /etc/network/interfaces to put both a static inet4 and inet6 address on eth0 ? ifup eth0 seems to ignore the inet6 stanza11:57
_jasonthecrazymonk86: what does ``messing with my sound'' mean exactly?11:57
_jim_i dont see any conf commands11:57
_jim_should i pastebin u all this ?11:57
gnomefreakyes11:57
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thecrazymonk86_jason: i was trying to get my sound to work in ut2004 and they had me move change somethings in esd.conf11:58
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_jasonthecrazymonk86: did you make a backup?11:58
thecrazymonk86yes11:58
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thecrazymonk86i went back in a loaded the defaults11:58
thecrazymonk86but11:58
_jim_gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1294511:58
PepsMy laptop blew it's motherboard and the thec said that after fixing it linux would not start, so I guess I lost the drive and have to re-install. This lap (NX8220)had some problems with the  X driver under breezy, so I am asking how safe it is to use Dapper Flight 6 and what does it mean RE the repositories11:59
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FlameSphereIs there a program that can play WMA11:59
eckhow can i prevent a module from loading?11:59
thecrazymonk86they made me run this command sudo ln -fs /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.111:59
hyphenatedPeps: #ubuntu+111:59
FlameSphere#suggest11:59
FlameSphereoops11:59
_jasonthecrazymonk86: that shouldn't hurt anything11:59
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