NickGarveysethk: so stupid..12:00
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moparfan90hello everyone12:00
sethkNickGarvey, boot a rescue cd12:00
aaron_are there any problems with setting up unrealircd with ubuntu12:00
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mweNickGarvey: just add init=/bin/sh at the end of the line and change ro to rw then type passwd when you are booted to set the password12:00
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NickGarveymwe: ah ok, thank you12:00
jadaz87NickGarvey do you know how to run php from commandline? it should be: php bot.php right??12:00
mweNickGarvey: or /bin/bash12:00
moparfan90whats that command thing in this IRC channel to make the bot tell you about how to install NVIDIA drivers?12:00
mweNickGarvey: init=/bin/bash12:00
sethkmwe, I'd expect a /bin/sh link12:00
moparfan90o wait nevermind12:01
mianiakENE|Toxic, /etc/init.d/networking restart worked , i can now see eth0 in ifconfig eth0, but when i ifconfig eth0 up i get this error, i tried ifconfig eth0 down then up and same error, SIOCSIFFLAGS: Device or resource busy. then i do an dhclient eth0 and it comes back with send_packet network down.12:01
sethkmwe, so either should work12:01
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morosenickrud: right, the idea was to avoid babysitting it at first..it's going to be enough work installing and configuring all the services12:01
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bolshNo PPC flash answers?12:01
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: You should not have to perform "ifconfigh eth0 up". Turning it down may sometime require you to restart the network adapter again.12:01
moroseoh no...what is all this crap12:02
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nickrudmorose, I was really exaggerating the downside, while hinting at the upside. Once you have a working server, you will spend an astonishingly small amount of time babysitting.12:02
morosei just booted the kernel and installing a ton of crap i don't want...like nano12:03
Lynoure01:00, time for me to give up for today.12:03
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: I've had no good experience with ifconfig up/down, it just seems to set a flag and not the affect the actual network. All you should have to do is start the network and get an IP using dhclient, and then you're set to go.12:03
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morosenickrud: yeah..that's what i am hoping for...everytime the gentoo box gets updated, my sh!t breaks to my complete and utter dismay12:03
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nickrudmorose, the specific example you mention, nano, is a required package. A design decision, a simple usable editor that always works.12:04
morosenickrud: vive vi :>12:04
mianiakENE|Toxic, ok, i restarted it again ran dhclient eth0 and it is still down, what happened is my 10 month old daughter was sitting on my lap  when i was in the terminal and she typed something into it and since then i lost it, i dont even know what she typed in heh :)12:04
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kbrooksmorose: flamebait!12:04
nickrudmorose, so add it :)12:04
ubotuBugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nickrud12:04
morosenickrud: i will12:04
nickrud!editor wars12:04
ubotunickrud: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:04
morosekbrooks: pfft :)12:04
nickrudheh. Gone :)12:05
kbrooks!editor war12:05
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kbrooks12:05
ubotu[editor]  ed, vim, nano, emacs, gedit, kate, bluefish, gvim, pida, eclipse, nvu, quanta12:05
Jowiwhere is mousepad in that list?12:05
HaxoR91how do i make totem work with any media files?12:06
HaxoR91i cant run anything on it12:06
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: she probably typed something like "aboogabaa" which is a secret command to turn off the network. On a more serious note, sometimes restarting the network won't do it. I've had this problem too, I've tried most of what I could think of, and yet I ended up rebooting the computer to get it to work again. So my advice to you is to reboot the computer when you can't get the network to functino properly again using /etc/init.d/network start.12:06
wprhello! another problem with ubuntu dapperdrake 6.. trying to add a norwegian keymap using Keyboard preferences, but I get the error "Error activating XXB configuration", and it refers to errors in libxklavier library, and the X server... any ideas?12:06
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rustlerharvHaxoR91: what version ubuntu are you rinnig12:06
mianiakENE|Toxic, ok i will give that a go, i have rebooted it before but i will try again,12:07
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: type "history" in the console and you will see the last 500 commands typed into it.12:07
nickrudwpr, you will probably get more traction in #ubuntu+112:07
morosenickrud: i'm hating this already....in the stupid gui install, there was never a place to set up a root passwd....!@#!@#!12:07
ciplogicHello... how do I change the drive name to Ubuntu?  I have as name:12:07
ciplogic // End;12:07
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nickrudmorose, heh. welcome to sudo12:07
gnomefreakmorose: ubuntu doesnt have a root password12:07
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HaxoR91rustlerharv: how do i fix it?12:07
gnomefreakit does just disabled12:07
rustlerharvHaxoR91: there are packges in synaptic you can install idk what they are for breezy12:07
nickrudmorose, sudo gives you so much more control over adminstrative issues than a root account12:08
linxehI'm having a problem with my SD/MMC card reader - [4490680.628000]  generic_make_request: Trying to access nonexistent block-device mmcblk0 (0). I have tried mknod to create the device (even though there was a device there already) and it still isn't working. Any ideas?12:08
JowiHaxoR91: gstreamer0.8-plugins is what you want. that will install them all12:08
morosenickrud gnomefreak: euhhhh and if you type su, you are prompted for a password, what then?12:08
ciplogicI use ubuntu dapper :)12:08
mianiakENE|Toxic, fc ?12:08
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nickrudmorose, sudo -i12:08
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JowiHaxoR91: you also have gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse12:08
nickrudmorose, that gives you the exact same situation as su -12:08
morosenickrud: oyeeeee  em em *runs around in circles*12:08
navidjoonI downloaded firefox and I want to have it running by typing firefox in the Alt+F2 dialog box. What should I do?12:08
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: that just opens vim, a text-editor12:09
nickrudmorose, lol, you amuse me :)12:09
gnomefreaknavidjoon: if you follow the guide it should just work12:09
ciplogicHow/where I change the drive names to GNOME?12:09
seamus-laptopciplogic: clarification?12:09
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: By the way, are you using wlan ?12:09
navidjoonIt works12:09
gnomefreakshould meaning it did here12:09
mianiakENE|Toxic, no just lan12:09
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ciplogicseamus-laptop: one drive gets a strange name: a multiline drive name12:09
gnomefreaknavidjoon: type firefox in alt+f212:09
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ENE|Toxicmian1ak: k, reboot and let me know if it works12:09
ciplogicThe all others are normal (drive size)12:09
mianiakENE|Toxic, k12:09
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navidjoonThe problem is if I type firefox in the Alt+F2 dialog in brings on the older version since it's in the path12:10
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seamus-laptopciplogic: where are you seeing this?12:10
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navidjoonNow I want to have the new firefox running12:10
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ciplogicIn places... anywhere :)12:10
gnomefreaknavidjoon: if you ran the divert command it should use firefox for default12:10
ciplogicThe name is: + \n //End;12:10
ciplogicFor that drive12:10
dabaRRemove old one from the path, link to new one in the path.12:10
navidjoondivert command? What is it?12:11
gnomefreakthe instructions are there for that i think there is a divert command and an ls command12:11
gnomefreaknavidjoon: its on the wiki12:11
morosenickrud: mkay so any secret switches needed for apt-get?  i'm about to install apache212:11
ciplogicMy question is how to define at least even after a format...12:11
seamus-laptopciplogic: what drive?12:11
dabaRmorose: --super-secret-special12:11
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ciplogicWas an old C letter from WIndows12:11
morosedabaR: seeee..that's what i thought :/12:11
ciplogicI removed Windows and I format as ReiserFS12:12
ciplogicUsing System->Admin->Disks12:12
nickrudmorose, secret switches? (and I am going to strongly recommend aptitude)12:12
ciplogicseamus-laptop: anyway: if it needs another format to another FS please to say... I backup data... and I will do everything to not be multiline drive12:13
ciplogicAs name12:13
navidjoonFound it gnomefreak, thanks for help12:13
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ciplogicIs really annoying that bug :(12:13
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NickGarveyI win!12:14
seamus-laptopciplogic: have you tried cfdisk?12:14
rustlerharvdoes anyone know how i can fix having to run gaim as root12:14
ciplogicbut cfdisk is a fdisk12:14
ciplogicI don't know if knows to format a drive12:14
redguyciplogic: it doesn't12:14
nickrudNickGarvey, heh. You been a loser too ? :)12:14
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gnomefreaknavidjoon: your welcome12:15
wobbleWhat package do I need to be able to see shares on a networked Windows computer?12:15
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NickGarveynickrud: heh I locked my root password12:15
seamus-laptopciplogic: you may need to repartition / reformat that drive12:15
NickGarveywobble: yessir, /msg ubotu samba for me12:15
navidjoonwobble: samba12:15
NickGarveywobble: s/me/more/12:15
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nickrudNickGarvey, why did you ever unlock it in the first place ;)12:15
wobbleOkay, thankyou guys12:15
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seamus-laptopciplogic: resier4 is still fairly new, untested, and ubggy12:16
ciplogicseamus-laptop: in which FS?12:16
NickGarveynickrud: suse 10.012:16
Alihi all12:16
ciplogicI used reiser12:16
ciplogicNot reiser412:16
Imperio59stupid quick and dirty question: if i did "sudo rm -r /" would that delete every file on my system?12:16
ciplogicImperio59: yes12:16
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Imperio59hmm'k :)12:16
rustlerharvImperio59: i thing its -rf but ya you can12:16
ciplogicDon't do on your system12:16
Imperio59couldn't be assed to check, thanks :p12:16
redguyImperio59: most of them, yes12:16
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gnomefreakImperio59: i doubt it because you didnt give it enough parameters but feel free to try :(12:16
Imperio59yea that's why i ask12:16
mlehrercat /dev/random > /dev/hda12:16
Alihow can i make a pppd connection on startup ?12:16
ciplogicyou may chheck after a chroot command12:16
Imperio59I don't really feel like trying12:17
mlehrerjust kidding there12:17
redguymlehrer: not funny12:17
ciplogicseamus-laptop: I shoud reformat?12:17
Alianyone ?12:17
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nickrudImperio59, it's a learning experience, if you have the partition to examine afterwards :)12:18
funkywhen is finally planned the next release ?12:18
Aliciplogic: startup, not login12:18
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)12:18
gnomefreakImperio59: yes it will remove all directories and their contents12:18
funkynickrud: thx12:18
gnomefreakman rm will give you the info12:18
morosenickrud: heh...i got it fixed up now so root can log in anyways..none of this sudo -i stuff12:19
Alianyone ?12:19
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mianiakENE|Toxic, its booting now , it gets to configuring network interfaces and says ok, then goes to waiting for network to come up, pauses for a while says ok, then when it gets to syncing time it fails the time sync. maybe it is a hardware problem and just a coincidence when my daughter went ape in terminal, when i ifconfig eth0 i get HWaddr FF:FF:FF:FF:FF12:19
rustlerharvis there a way i can change it so i dont have to be root to run progs12:19
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ciplogicAny idea how may I setup the drive names in Ubuntu/GNOME?12:19
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linxehapt-get nightmare - how can I fix this error which stops me installing/removing anything?   dpkg-divert: mismatch on divert-to when removing `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/share/fglrx/diversions/libGL.so.1.2 by xorg-driver-fglrx' found `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx'12:20
nickrudmorose, there are a lot of useable security models. But, please use the sudo one on this channel12:20
moroseare you ppl using openssh?12:20
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morosenickrud: emmm oki12:20
Alimorose: yes12:20
fiendskull9hey guys12:20
endersshadowciplogic: are you talking like C:\ in windows?12:20
nickrudmorose, it'll make it easier for the next guy :)12:20
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fiendskull9what basic language would you reccomend for programming a simple multi-user chat? server-client12:20
svu_why oh why mt-daapd is not in ubuntu repository?12:20
morosenickrud: understood....only two ppl have access to the actual physical box, here, so its no huge deal to login as root12:21
Alifiendskull9: python or ruby12:21
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NickGarveyyeah python is very easy12:21
morosenickrud: i mean, in my case, but i understand the desire for consistency on the channel12:21
ciplogicendersshadow: I have an ex-drive of C:\ of windows12:21
nickrudmorose, yeah :)12:21
ciplogicendersshadow: and I format it12:21
fiendskull9Ali, ok, i was thinking python :), im waiting for a guy to send me a TCPcommunications class for REALbasic.12:21
alekzhi, im going to buy a new pc thinking on a AMD 64 3200 FX, how good is ubuntu 64 ??12:22
endersshadowciplogic: all right, linux deals with drives and the file structure a lot differently than windows does12:22
Alifiendskull9: REALBasic is closed source12:22
biovoreI am running kubuntu 64bit here.. works fine12:22
ciplogicendersshadow: as reiserfs and at the end I sow a strange name as was plus a new line //End;12:22
Alifiendskull9: and you won't get enough support from community12:22
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: You daughter should by no reason be able to have done anything to your system. That it fails time sync is because it cannot find ntp.ubuntu.com. Have you tried "ping". You can also check "lshw -C network" to find informatino about your hardware specifics. Make sure it's eth0 and the fields are accurate.12:22
Alifiendskull9: python and asynchat module12:22
rustlerharvhow differnt is kbuntu12:22
Alifiendskull9: or ruby12:22
ciplogicbiovore: my question is how do I setup that to change a name to drives12:22
nickrudrustlerharv, the desktop will be totally different, but the guts are all the same12:23
ciplogicendersshadow: At least the coresponding to /media/C12:23
biovoreciplogic: setup what for what?12:23
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rustlerharvhow differnt is kde12:23
endersshadowciplogic: what does your /etc/fstab look like?12:23
NickGarveyrustlerharv: try it and find out ;)12:23
ciplogicis normal12:23
rustlerharvive only run ubuntu12:23
jadaz87does anyone know how i set an username and password  for mysql?12:23
nickrudkde is evil, gnome is heaven :)12:23
gnomefreakrustlerharv: its different12:23
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mianiakENE|Toxic, k12:23
NickGarveyxfce > all12:23
rustlerharvi like gnome12:23
linxehrustlerharv, : I have ubuntu with the kubuntu desktop added, so I can switch between both12:23
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: That you said, about ifconfig tells you your MAC address is ff:ff:ff... That's a good sign to that your system doesn't recognise your networking card properly. You should have a uniqe mac-address.12:23
ciplogiclike that: /dev/hda1       /media/C        reiserfs defaults      0        012:24
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gnomefreakrustlerharv: it makes me think of windows desktop :(12:24
endersshadowciplogic: all right, so it's mounting to /media/C just fine or do you just want to change the name in media?12:24
NickGarveyhow do you make an ubotu factoid refer to another one?12:24
nickrudrustlerharv, gnomefreak is exaggerating, it's not that bad12:24
gnomefreakrustlerharv: it has a K in lower left hand corner (your start menu)12:24
biovorejadaz87: use mysql admin to set the password for root.. then use the grant command to setup users12:24
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ciplogicendersshadow: name is ok... mounting too\12:25
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jadaz87biovore what is the terminal command for mysqladmin?12:25
gnomefreaknickrud: no? than you have your "launchers" to the right of the K12:25
Alianyone willing to help me with pppd ?12:25
ciplogicendersshadow: but in GNOME the name is really strange12:25
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gnomefreakand the apps dock at bottom12:25
biovorejadaz87: see mysql.com support documents12:25
ciplogicendersshadow: and takes 2 lines as name :-S12:25
rustlerharvred hat is kde isnt it12:25
N2DIYHi, how to I get email with evolution, the send/receive button is ghosted out.12:25
nickrudgnomefreak, er, I'm thinking kde 2.2 or so, it can't have gotten truly evil, only relatively :)12:25
linxehis there a way to manipulate the package installation list by hand?12:25
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gnomefreakthat reminds me way too much of windows lol12:25
endersshadowciplogic: okay, give me just a second12:25
redguyjadaz87: also, you might want to check /usr/share/doc/mysql12:25
jshriverIs it possible to convert from Debian stable to ubuntu?12:26
A[D] minSNighty all12:26
rustlerharvi tinhk my schools computers use kde12:26
ciplogicjshiver: install first the kernel, reboot12:26
nickrudjshriver, no, you should do a fresh install for debian12:26
jshriverw/o FFR12:26
ciplogicjshiver: then after reboot to me works12:26
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gnomefreakjshriver: its not recommended things have a 98% chance of breaking badly12:26
biovorejadaz87: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/grant.html12:26
linxehie I want to remove a package that is installed from the lists, but keep the package installed (well, I want to remove the package, but I cant, so I figure if I can overwrite it I might be able to uninstall)12:26
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linxehor should I do a fresh install?12:26
jshriverI've been a debian user for years.. and starting to get tired of the lack off applications... some of the ppl in my lug are big ubuntu fans.. so thought I'd give it a shot12:26
nickrudlinxeh, eh, more info?12:26
gnomefreaklinxeh: what package and what errors when you try to remove it12:27
nickrudjshriver, unstable?12:27
linxehapt-get nightmare - how can I fix this error which stops me installing/removing anything?   dpkg-divert: mismatch on divert-to when removing `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/share/fglrx/diversions/libGL.so.1.2 by xorg-driver-fglrx' found `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx'12:27
biovorelinxeh: is that package a dependancy for another package12:27
jshrivernickrud, na stable.. and another machine is running testing12:27
linxehRemoving xorg-driver-fglrx ...12:27
linxehon that package12:27
mianiakENE|Toxic, ping works, lshw -C network comes back with, network dissabled, though it recognises the n/w card12:27
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biovorelinxeh: I have noticed alot of people having problems with this fglrx stuff12:27
jshriverbut some of the apps Iwant are in testing, but I dont want to upgrade to testing just to get a couple applications12:27
borgistaAnybody else having Dapper MPlayer-plugin woes too?12:27
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jshriverubuntu is debian like right? I can still use apt-get/apt-cache dpkg?12:28
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Bilangefor the record, I also had this kind of problem-- dont remember what I did to get rid of the nag12:28
redguyAli: the initscript check if file /etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot exists on boot12:28
nickrudjshriver, the tools are identical12:28
gnomefreakjshriver: yes12:28
NickGarveyborgista: most likely in #ubuntu+1 would be the best place to check12:28
linxehbiovore: yeah,  its because there arent any real suitable packages yet - I want to drop it and stick with standard I guess12:28
biovoreborgista: I built mplayer from source, newest cvs works alot better then that package in multiverse12:28
linxehalthough Xgl is so nice to use :o12:28
gnomefreakjshriver: the packages are _not_ the same hence the reason things will break on cross platform upgrade12:28
Beaksterhi, im thinking about installing Ubuntu in a Athlon 800 512MB to use for mythtv.  DOes that soud like a good idea?  or better to stick with debian?12:28
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: network disabled ? That's odd. I'm not really sure how to fix that. I'm guessing you can't ping a local server or your router?12:28
NickGarveyxgl is beautiful..12:28
nickrudxgl is october away (I hope)12:29
NickGarveymian1ak: ifconfig eth0 shows stuff though?12:29
redguyAli: if it's set as executable it will be run, otherwise pppd call provided is issued12:29
biovorenickrud: I had it working in dapper just a little while ago12:29
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rustlerharvBeakster: i cant get mythtv to work right but im and idiot so12:29
fiveironwhats a good php editor?12:29
NickGarveyfiveiron: vi12:29
redguyAli: s/issued/executed/12:29
dabaReclipse, vi, gedit, bluefish12:29
mianiakENE|Toxic, nope cant ping local NickGarvey yes12:29
fiveironNickGarvey: heheh12:29
redguyfiveiron: vim, emacs, kate12:29
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fiveironsorry let me clarify12:30
NickGarveymianiak: do you have an IP?12:30
ciplogicendersshadow any result?:12:30
NickGarveymianiak: like 192.168.*.*?12:30
Bilangefiveiron: bluefish was a favourite of mine, although eclipse might be a good idea if you have a fast machine too12:30
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endersshadowciplogic: yeah, i'm looking for the program to rename reiserfs partitions12:30
fiveironi'm looking for a php code beautifier which IDEALLY also has the capability from within the application to open and save files on a remote ftp server12:30
mianiakNickGarvey, nope, ifconfig eth0 would show ip yes?12:30
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N2DIYhow do I get Evolution to fetch my mail, the send/receive button is ghosted out.12:31
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ENE|Toxicmian1ak: But it won't show mac-address (but ff:ff..) ?12:31
ciplogicendershadow: I think that is only a GNOME issue, and to remane it in GConf or somelike that12:31
NickGarveymianiak: I don't understand what you just said? could you pastebin ifconfig eth0?12:31
ciplogicendersshadow: for my knowledge reiser FS haven't names12:31
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nickrudbiovore, so have I, but I hope for better tools, like better window management12:31
mianiakENE|Toxic, yeh ff:ff....12:31
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biovorenickrud: don't we all :-P12:31
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: Line NickGarvey said, pastebin :)12:31
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NickGarveys/Line/Like/ ;)12:32
nickrud!!! unleash the devs !!!12:32
ubotunickrud: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:32
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haasteemhi, is there anybosy else using blackbox as window manager?12:32
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angelQUE ONDA12:32
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ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:33
fiendskull9do you guys know of any good Python GUI IDE's?12:33
mianiakNickGarvey, ENE|Toxic  cant paste it i will hve to put it in a ile and transfer with my usb stick..12:33
Bilangehaasteem: i did in the past, but in windows though :/12:33
NickGarveymianiak: haha good point12:33
iudiciumBoa Constructor fiendskull912:33
NickGarveymianiak: um yeah if that wouldn't be to much of a hastle..12:33
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gnomefreakfiendskull9: eric12:33
NickGarveymianiak: do you have a cross over cable?12:33
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Sannefiendskull9, there are lots, I like eric (qt-based), also take a look at drpython.12:33
fiendskull9gnomefreak, is it GUI? and an ide12:33
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12:34
mianiakENE|Toxic, NickGarvey i gotta feed my daughter srry but i have to stop now, i will get back to it asap, thnx for help so far12:34
ENE|Toxicmian1ak: np12:34
fiendskull9ill try eruc12:34
NickGarveyENE|Toxic: well its just he doesn't have internet heh how can he pastebin it12:34
gnomefreakfiendskull9: yes12:34
NickGarveymianiak: alright, good luck12:34
gnomefreakalso anjuta is good12:34
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ENE|ToxicNickGarvey: ooo now I get it haha :)12:34
fiendskull9it does python?12:34
gnomefreakbut iirc eric will only do python12:34
gnomefreakfiendskull9: yes anjuta does python12:34
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ciplogicendersshadow: the name is asigned in Volume name12:35
fiendskull9gnomefreak, oh, i thought it only did c and cpp, i have it.12:35
ciplogicWhen I choose property on the drive12:35
endersshadowciplogic: there's a bug filed about it in launchpad12:35
endersshadowciplogic: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/3086712:35
haasteembilange: ahhh, ok... i was having some font trouble12:35
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ciplogicendersshadow: Nope... it is good... is not like bug12:36
haasteemso i guess it is in fact more gtk related12:36
nickrudciplogic, rierserfstune --label  ?12:36
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ciplogicNickrud: I try right now12:36
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nickrudciplogic, man rieserfstune for the details12:36
haasteemdoes gedit use gtk?12:37
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nickrudhaasteem, of course it does, it's gnome12:37
biovorehaasteem: I think it dose12:37
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redguyhaasteem: the g suggests so12:37
nicolas__ok, i just upgraded from sarge to breezy, everything worked almost without problems, except for the last step, which is apt-get install ubuntu-desktop12:37
haasteemstupid question12:37
nicolas__broken deps with gaim, synaptic, python-apt etc12:37
rustlerharvwhat is gtk12:37
nickrudhaasteem, no, not a stupid question, just a brain fart :)12:37
redguynicolas__: erm12:37
haasteembut how come then that it does not listen to my setting in the gtkrc-2.0 file?12:37
nicolas__redguy: what?12:38
redguynicolas__: updated from sarge to breezy? since when sarge was an ubuntu release?12:38
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ciplogicI cannot umount partition :P12:38
nicolas__redguy: it is not12:38
gnomefreakredguy: sarge was never a ubuntu release12:39
redguynicolas__: you should say: I broke my sarge install when I was tryng to change my distro to ubuntu12:39
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nicolas__redguy: well, someone else did it on ubuntuforums, and so i did12:39
ubotuDebian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/12:39
nicolas__everything is working well12:39
gnomefreakredguy: sarge nad ubuntu dont use same packages there is no doubt it will break12:39
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nicolas__redguy: i dont think you have anything to teach me12:40
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nickrudnicolas__, were you the guy that said he was going from sarge to breezy when I came in today?12:40
nicolas__nickrud: yes12:40
juztinif i use an alternative wm, for instance blackbox, will the icon that notifies you of available updates still pop up when updates are available?12:40
NickGarveynicolas__: good luck12:40
endersshadowciplogic: the more i look into it, there doesn't seem to be an easy way to change volume labels, but there are people working on it...i'm sorry12:40
nicolas__NickGarvey: its done12:40
redguynicolas__: hmm, I thing dpkg's ubuntu factoid is more clear on that12:40
nickrudnicolas__, I commented cuz I know it's a difficult road, you will have serious issues.12:40
toby_justin: no12:40
haasteemnickrud: it looks like the rest e..g x-chat, gimp, etc. run ok, but not gedit, the update manager.. it is rather strange12:40
Bilangeabotu xfce4: does apt-get install xfce as the default window manager when installing packages, or some tuneup is required?12:40
biovorenicolas__: I done a sarge to brezzy dist-upgrade as well12:41
nicolas__nickrud: not too much12:41
juztinbummer :/12:41
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nicolas__just a couple dpkg segfaults ;P12:41
toby_you can do an apt-get something or other as a cron job12:41
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|austin|quick question: I have a 5 gig partition which just became free.  is this big enough for a ubuntu install with gnome?12:41
redguynicolas__: I doubt that you will learn anything usefull other than debian != ubuntu12:41
kbrooks|austin|: ubuntu requires min 1 gb12:41
toby_fluxbox is nice12:42
|austin|does that include gnome?12:42
_jason|austin|: it's big enough with and without gnome (~1.8 is min for gnome included)12:42
Bilangeaustin: yes, 2 and more gb is required to install it, after the installation 1.5 gig is really used12:42
nicolas__redguy: almost12:42
nickrudhaasteem, I've fought that, and gave up. I stick with the tools for themes, and maybe alter a theme slightly here and there12:42
rustlerharvi tinhk i used 4 for everything12:42
nicolas__biovore: had any problem with installing ubuntu-desktop ?12:42
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redguynicolas__: but maybe you could educate me: what's the point in such an "upgrade" ?12:42
biovorenicolas__: I didn't have any problems with it here12:42
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haasteemnickrud: ok. i do not really want to use gnome-font properties, i am using blackbox (without a desktop manager)... and if i did run gnome-font-properties other unecessary gnome stuff is loaded...12:42
ciplogicreisertune works... but no effect :)12:43
nickrudnicolas__, 'just a dpkg segfault *cough*(12:43
nicolas__redguy: prevent data loss while preventing data backup when changing distro12:43
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rustlerharv|austin|:  right now im using 3.4 gigs12:43
nicolas__and also12:43
endersshadowsorry :(12:43
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nickrudhaasteem, I've never used blackbox, so I don't have much to offer12:43
nicolas__i saved almost 30 minute12:43
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slavikI got dapper working :D12:44
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slavikno wifi yet12:44
ciplogicThe name change from C in + even I choose as label: test12:44
netgeek60Is the Dapper beta worth taking for a spin? <relatively stable?>12:45
redguynicolas__: there are at least several way better ways of acheiveing the goal you described12:45
rustlerharv netgeek60 yes12:45
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rustlerharvi havent had any problems12:45
nickrudnetgeek60, if you're comfortable with the tools provided to fix problems, yes. Otherwise I'd suggest waiting.12:45
nicolas__redguy: did i told you it went almost perfectly ?12:46
Sannehaasteem, there's lightweight the gtk-theme-switch utility to control some of the gnome/gtk appearance when you haven't installed a full Gnome.12:46
nicolas__in less than 20 min12:46
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gn0m3can anyone help me with the gaim messenger12:46
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .12:46
netgeek60Cool... i don't mind fixing problems as long as there are only a few now & then.12:46
rustlerharvgn0m3: whats up12:47
gn0m3how do u add pictures to your profile?12:47
gn0m3it gives u the option12:47
rustlerharvi tinhk thats your buddy icon12:47
redguynicolas__: "broken deps with gaim, synaptic, python-apt etc" <-- you call this "almost perfect"12:47
gn0m3but is there a specific format or a specific size?12:47
ciplogicgn0m3: you have in account property12:47
gn0m3i know but it did not allow me12:47
matth-wnickrud, hey did you ever find anything about the cd-r?12:47
gn0m3i added the pic but nothing came up12:47
redguynicolas__: I call it "broken system"12:47
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redguynicolas__: a amtter of perspective12:48
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kbrooksi have this idea12:48
_Dezhow do i mount a usb drive in terminal12:48
rustlerharvwhat messenger are you using12:48
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kbrooksi think12:48
haasteemSanne: i know that one, it has no effect unfortunately...12:48
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rustlerharvaim msn etc12:48
nickrudmatth-w, your issue scrolled out of my xchat window, what was it again?12:48
gn0m3im using aim12:49
gn0m3but its gaim here12:49
haasteemSanne: by the way, i do have a full gnome installed12:49
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codecaineanybody using gaim2?12:49
matth-wOh, I need mp3 plugin's to burn with serpentine or gnomebaker12:49
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moparfan90hi everyone/......... how do i give write access for everyone for    /usr/games12:49
rustlerharvcodecaine: i am12:49
nickrudmatth-w, ah12:49
codecaineis it real nice does it have webcam?12:49
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rustlerharvmy only problem is i have to run it as root12:49
moparfan90.. in a terminal12:49
Sannehaasteem, it hasn't? It should... oh, if you have gnome, then you could run the gnome theme manager from the command line.12:49
Milk_I'm having issues getting any software to recognise my joystick.. any sugestions on where I can edit a config file or otherwise get this setup correctly?12:49
__nev__moparfan90: chmod 1777 /usr/games12:49
rustlerharvno web cam12:49
biovoregaim2 is in beta 312:49
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redguymoparfan90: what for?12:49
diomedesso whats with ubuntu install not asking for a root password? and assuming i want to use dhcp?12:49
codecaineoh nothing really new12:50
nickrudmatth-w, I answered up on that one thinking it was ripping, not writing. I've never written a music cd in my life :)12:50
sb_oh merda12:50
redguy!tell diomedes about root12:50
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sb_i have Dapper Drake12:50
Milk_diomedes, thats the default, its meant to make install easy and safe12:50
haasteemSanne: yeah.... gnome theme manager does not invoke other gnome stuff?12:50
sb_what i use to see a divx?12:50
sethkdiomedes, it asks for a root password in expert mode12:50
matth-wnickrud, never burned a audio cd?12:50
_Dezhow do i mount a usb drive in terminal12:50
biovoresb_: xine or mplayer will do it12:50
sethkdiomedes, and the dhcp assumption isn't unreasonable for a default12:50
redguydiomedes: if you want to have more controll on what is actually done during the install do an expert install12:50
sb_but i haven't a codec12:50
rustlerharvsb_: totem will do it12:51
ciplogicnickrud: I have write with a soft crayon and say the content of it ;)12:51
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biovoresb_: google for divx4linux12:51
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biovoreor divx5linux12:51
redguy!tell sb_ about restricted12:51
diomedesgrr, linux is becoming windows12:51
rustlerharvyou nmeed to install the good bad and ugly pcks12:51
nickrudmatth-w, only once, I just put a bunch of mp3's on a data cd, which my dvd player recognized. That was for fun, and never repeaed12:51
ciplogicnickrud: do you know how to change the volume in GNOME?12:51
Milk_diomedes, why do you say that?12:51
diomedesos aren't meant to think for you12:51
Sannehaasteem, well, it will load the libraries it needs to run, as would for example gimp or firefox or openoffice, if you run them.12:51
nxvli want to install ubuntu but i haven't a CD-drive or a Floppy12:51
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nickrudciplogic, no, I'd look at that bug report someone pointed you at12:51
ubotuDapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)12:51
Milk_diomedes, so defaulting to static IP and defaulting asking for a default root is not thinking for you?12:52
redguydiomedes: sorry, I must have missed the expert mode in the Windows setup12:52
nxvlis there any way to install it throu the net?12:52
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ciplogicnickrud: the bug say that: should display the volume info but displays the names of the drive12:52
sethkdiomedes, not really.  you want expert mode behavior, install in expert mode12:52
ciplogicTo me display correctly the volume info12:52
steelwhat were the commands to see who's in the FTP server? for proftpd?12:52
redguydiomedes: if you like to think for the os try slackware12:52
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__nev__steel: ftpwho12:52
ciplogicAnd that bug doesn't apply to me... the bad part is that the drive name is really wrong12:53
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ciplogicMy question is how to change it12:53
codecaineanybody have file sharing problems with windows on ubuntu using samba?12:53
ciplogicI have nothing with name, only my question is how to change ;)12:53
diomedesmilk did i say default to anything? no i said ask, ie static or dhcp12:53
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redguydiomedes: aor lfs even12:53
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Milk_codecaine, its all about setup, what problem are you having?12:53
rustlerharvdoesnt nautilis do file sharing12:53
nickrudciplogic, if using reiserfstune --label doesn't show the correct name in gnome but will on the command line, that's a bug to be filed12:53
redguycodecaine: no, what is your problem?12:53
haasteemSanne: ok, i will give it a try, thanks12:53
matth-wWell is there someone that might help me, I'm needing plugin's for my serpentine to burn a audio-cd from mp3's12:54
Sannehaasteem, you're welcome12:54
nickrudciplogic, I haven't used rieserfs under ubuntu so I'm not up on the latest12:54
diomedesredguy this install is for my wife, i use solaris.. its just sad that the defaults for linux are now dumbed down12:54
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ciplogicnickrud: changing to xfs may fix that things?12:54
mianiakNickGarvey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1290612:54
sethkdiomedes, that's not true.  the defaults for ubuntu are dumbed down12:54
codecaineI click on share folder under system then choose a external hd I want to share give it an name as a windows file server but when I try to open it up in windows theres no folder showing12:54
nickrudciplogic, what's wrong with ext3?12:54
sethkdiomedes, use slackware12:54
diomedesare native debian and slackware the only old school distros12:54
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sethkdiomedes, no, but of the majors possibly12:55
jmgdiomedes no there are others that predate and have died out12:55
sethkdiomedes, there are a slew of distros now12:55
ciplogicnickrud: I heard that may remain corrupt the transaction log on a power break12:55
NickGarveymianiak: whoa is that messed up12:55
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ciplogicnickrud: reiserfs haven't that problem12:55
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nickrudciplogic, heh. I have totally useless power here, and never had that issue.12:55
sethkciplogic, reiserfs has many many other problems, though12:55
NickGarveymianiak: show that to someone smarter than me I have no idea at all..12:55
spoonsI'm having trouble installing Blender 3D 2.41, I could only get blender 2.37 from the repositories, so I found a copy that was supposed to be packed for Ubuntu. when I try to install it with this command "dpkg -i blender_2.41-1ubuntu4_i386.deb" I get dependancy errors.12:55
spoons blender: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2) but 1:4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed           Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.2-4) but 4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed12:55
diomedesa slew isn't really a good thing, they all just try to be dumber then the other so the pc mag reader uses their version12:55
sethkciplogic, ext3 is really quite stable, and doesn't claim to be totally bullet proof12:55
redguydiomedes: Note that ubuntu is mostly a desktop distro and dhcp is what most desktop users want. The install should be simple to attract more users from the Windows world, don't you agree?12:56
NickGarveyspoons: then get the dependancies :)12:56
mianiakNickGarvey, ok , i post it int he forum, thanx for your help12:56
diomedeswhat happened to unix being selective about its friends12:56
Milk_diomedes, whats the difference, use expert or fix it afterwards12:56
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nickrudciplogic, I rebooted on power failure in probably 10 times in a month before buying a ups, and never lost data12:56
spoonsNickGarvey how do I do that?12:56
NickGarveymianiak: :)12:56
sethkdiomedes, you have the behavior you want.  why bitch because it isn't the default?12:56
Milk_codecaine, you need to setup samaba users for the user12:56
NickGarveyspoons: apt-get what it says, libgcc1 or smotheing12:56
kingspawndiomedes: chill out, install Arch Linux from archlinux.org12:56
spoonsNickGarvey that just gives me the same errors.12:56
codecainefor windows user name12:56
NickGarveyspoons: exact same? like it depends on itself?12:57
Milk_codecaine, yes12:57
spoonsNick, it gives me the blender error12:57
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Sannespoons, I always use the blender from blender.org and install it manually in /usr/local/<whereveryouwant>.12:57
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spoonsSanne do you not need these dependancies that way?12:58
zanthgood day12:58
Milk_diomedes, if your looking for a completely configurable, highly selctive distro, try standard debian or slackware, but don't fault ubuntu for being EXACTLY what it advertises12:58
ciplogicnickrud: I backup the partition and I will format as EXT3 :)12:58
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redguydiomedes: so you say that linux and/or unix should be only for "the chosen ones", right? Or do you expect that every computer user knows about IP configuration?12:58
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noaxispointI have looked online for this; is there a way to make the gdm route the X session to a remote X server already started?  The other machine would have a static IP address.12:58
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ciplogicnickrud: I believe you... I was only affraid of that side...12:58
zanthI was wondering if there was anything like kxdocker for gnome?12:58
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sethkredguy, not only that, but it has a mode that does exactly what he wants.  He's just bitching because it isn't the default.  That's not reasonable at all.12:58
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Sannespoons, no, I don't have those problems on Breezy. But there's one: you would need to get blender for python2.3 and also install python2.3 from apt (if you want to use that), because breezy's python2.4 isn't compatible with blender/python2.312:59
kingspawnthe os wars are getting old. no need.12:59
_jim_hey guys , can anyone help me ? ubuntu cant see my other Fat32 partitions12:59
NickGarveyI'd use !wars but I had to delete it (cough)12:59
sethk_jim_, why do you think that?12:59
diomedesredguy if they dont know about ip config then i highly doubt *nix is the os for them12:59
kingspawnNickGarvey: heh12:59
_jim_i cant see my other partitions12:59
rustlerharv_jim_: is it your fstab01:00
Milk_diomedes, your a bit of a windows user then?01:00
_jim_whats fstab ?01:00
sethk_jim_, did the partitions exist when you installed ubuntu?01:00
kingspawnMilk_: let it go, man01:00
codecaineuser under security? in the smb.conf?01:00
_jim_no seth01:00
Milk_kingspawn, but but but01:00
_jim_they was RAW01:00
sethk_jim_, that's the reason01:00
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sethk_jim_, you'll have to add them manually now01:00
_jim_is there a reason to fix that ?01:00
redguydiomedes: right, let that herd stick in the Windows world, so that we, the True Computer Users can have the power of unix just to ourselves01:00
Milk_codecaine, in the smb.conf... well... kinda01:00
ubotuNon Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!01:00
_jim_ah yeh :D01:00
nickrud_jim_, it's actually the file /etc/fstab , it's the definition of where disk partitions are mounted in the unified file system01:00
rustlerharvyou need to add lines to fstab01:00
nicolas__ok i fixed all those broken packages, due to my usage of debian backports, everything would have go really well, from a fresh sarge to breezy, this is nothing risky01:00
sethk_jim_, a reason?  the reason is that you want to see the partitions01:01
Sannespoons, I hope I wasn't too confusing...01:01
Milk_codecaine, check out the samba docs for adding a user01:01
Milk_codecaine, let me see if I can find a link01:01
_jim_sorry mistake01:01
sethk_jim_, it is easy to do, you simply have to edit /etc/fstab, as several have started to tell you01:01
_jim_i open fstab in etc ?01:01
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ubotuit has been said that mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f01:01
sethk_jim_, yes, with an editor01:01
rustlerharvsudo gedit01:01
nickrud_jim_, read the ubotu link that baconbacon so kindly provided01:01
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sethk_jim_, rustlerharv 's was for you01:01
diomedesredguy no its horses for courses,  look at the lashing lindows/linspire got when if came out01:02
Milk_codecaine, http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2002-May/043748.html01:02
ubotuDownload and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions01:02
_jim_so much support in here lol thanks alot guys !01:02
_jim_ubuntu rox :D01:02
nickrud_jim_, check out the ubotu one just above as well01:02
naliothdiomedes: redguy: distro discussion can take place happily in #ubuntu-offtopic01:02
diomedessorry if i feel someone should know something about an os that can be used to be harmful to others if not looked after correctly01:02
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redguysorry nalioth01:02
baconbaconi glance once in a while to type !something and im praised for it :)01:02
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amphidiomedes: dos can be used to be harmful to others ;)01:03
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rustlerharv_jim_: the little life peserve has alot of this stuff in it01:04
ciplogicamphi: MS distros may be on #ubuntu-offtopic :P01:04
amphiciplogic: ack01:04
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_jim_hey guys01:05
_jim_i dont know the hda0 / 1 things01:05
dyloniumDoes anyone know how to boot on GRUB if its on an external HDD?01:05
_jim_and i cant access System/Disks01:05
dyloniumit messed up my whole computer01:05
baconbaconhda is first hard disk, hdb first slave, hdc second master..01:05
sethkdylonium, your BIOS has to support it01:05
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Milk_dylonium, thats dependent on your bios01:05
sethkdylonium, and most don't01:05
dyloniumit does01:06
codecaineso you have to set a password for a user :/01:06
rustlerharv_jim_: hda is your master hdd 1 is the first partition on it01:06
Milk_codecaine, you have to have the same user on both systems with the same smbpassword01:06
amphi_jim_: hda is the first disk on the first controller, hda1 the first parttion on that disk, hda2 the second, etc.01:06
dyloniumi already screwed my comp. up, im running on a live version01:06
dyloniumhow can i get back on windows01:06
sethkdylonium, you can install grub on the MBR of the internal disk and have it boot from the external01:06
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baconbaconhda1-2-3-4 are 1st,2nd,... primary partitions01:06
dyloniumwhen i boot, it immidiately gets a gruub error01:06
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sethkdylonium, what's the error?01:06
rustlerharvi love how 20 ppl answer the same ?01:06
dyloniumhold on one sec01:06
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baconbaconhda5-6-7-8-... are logical partitions01:06
kingspawndylonium: have you still got the original partition?01:06
NickGarveyhow do you make cat continue to dump a file?  like a log for example01:07
kingspawndylonium: windows, that is01:07
Milk_rustlerharv, its called good service01:07
sethkrustlerharv, you want one right answer and 19 wrong ones?  :)01:07
kingspawnNickGarvey: doesnt tail have some kind of option?01:07
amphiNickGarvey: tail -f perhaps01:07
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SanneNickGarvey, I don't use cat, I use: tail -f <filename>01:07
dyloniumyes i do01:07
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kingspawnthats it01:07
rustlerharvat least you nkow its right01:07
dyloniumi do have the original pertition01:07
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Milk_rustlerharv, yep01:07
NickGarveyyeah I was thinking of tail, just wondering if cat had it too, alright though thank you01:07
Milk_codecaine, did that help?01:07
dyloniumbut i heard i have to use the recover disk in order to recover the MBR01:08
sethkdylonium, if you mean you have the original MBR, you can restore it01:08
dyloniumbut i lost it, and it doesnt work01:08
codecainekinda but on windows I do use passwords for file sharing01:08
sethkdylonium, no, not true01:08
dyloniumi do ahve it01:08
dyloniumbut how?01:08
codecaineI have a password to login to windows01:08
sethkdylonium, dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=101:08
dyloniumGrub Loading stage 1.5.01:08
dyloniumError 21 ----thats the error btw01:08
Milk_codecaine, good, but you need the same user and password on linux01:08
baconbacon_jim_ you can use fdisk /dev/hda (command line) or disk manager in system menu to check partitions01:08
dyloniumdylonium, dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 *whats that?*01:08
kingspawndylonium: you can boot the windows cd and use fixmbr utility in rescue mode, if you just need to get back your windows mbr01:09
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Milk_you know.. I asked a question when i came in. and I have no idea if it got answered01:09
sethkdylonium, that's how to restore the mbr01:09
sethkdylonium, which is what you asked01:09
Milk_Anyone here using a Joystick and maybe.. gl-11701:09
_jim_i mounted01:09
dyloniumso how do i do it01:09
_jim_should i reboot now ?01:09
dyloniumwhere do i type what u jsut gave me?01:09
dyloniumthat *dylonium, dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1*01:09
sethk_jim_, no01:09
rustlerharv_jim_: yes01:09
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sethk_jim_, rebooting for what reason?01:09
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_jim_to see them01:09
_jim_i got no confirmation01:10
sethk_jim_, just do mount -a01:10
rustlerharvyou can reboot or mount manually01:10
_jim_and dont see them01:10
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phoulExcuse me01:10
dyloniumwhere do i type *dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1*01:10
NickGarveyphoul: excused01:10
sethkdylonium, at a command prompt.  where do you type anything?01:10
phoulIm looking for the latest dapper and such and somone just told me that this list: http://members.shaw.ca/darkcloud54/sources.list isnt the one to use01:10
phoulI was sure it was01:10
dyloniumwhere can i get a command prompt01:10
_jim_mount -a dont do anything too01:10
dyloniumthats my problem01:10
nickrudsethk, what's filename?01:10
NickGarvey!tell phoul about dapper01:10
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ciplogicnickrud: I have clean up the partition, I format it as ext3 and no success :(01:11
phoulUmm could somone just check that list out tho01:11
rustlerharv_jim_: i reboot01:11
sethknickrud, I'm not sure, what'a file?01:11
phoulbecause im running dapper01:11
_jim_hey guys01:11
diomedesso back ontopic there an easy kde install for ubuntu?01:11
christianpiperjoin #blenderQA01:11
nickrudciplogic, ok, and arg, sethk :)01:11
_jim_when i do sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t vfat -o umask=00001:11
_jim_i get a confirmation ?01:11
dyloniumwhere can i get a command prompt to type dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=101:11
baconbacondiomedes: ubuntu with KDE is kubuntu, check #kubuntu01:12
sethk_jim_, I'm not sure what you mean by a confirmation, but probably not, no01:12
nickrudciplogic, what exactly are you trying to do? Last we talked, I thought you simply wanted to label your reiser partition01:12
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sethk_jim_, you can do  ls /media/windows and you'll see files01:12
rustlerharv_jim_: you should get an error or see the drie were you told it to go01:12
phoulanyone here who can see it01:12
baconbacondiomedes: but if you want kde and already have ubuntu installed, you can install the package kubuntu-desktop01:12
dyloniumcan you see my typing?01:12
kingspawndiomedes: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, i believe.01:13
dyloniumall joking aside01:13
nickrudciplogic, ?01:13
dyloniumsomeone help me out please01:13
ciplogicnickrud: the partition is /dev/hda1 mounted to /media/C an ex-FAT32 partition and as name is seen in GNOME as "+ \n //End; "01:13
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dyloniumwhere can i get a command prompt01:13
dyloniumto type *dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1*01:13
NickGarveydylonium: I see your typing, applictions > terminal01:13
sethkdylonium, sorry, I have to handle work stuff at the moment01:13
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ciplogicnickrud: And is anoying at least because use 2 lines in places, and everywhere01:13
NickGarveydylonium: wait.. of01:13
blindapplications >accessories terminal01:13
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rustlerharvdylonium: apps01:13
NickGarveyhaha sorry, no gui01:13
dyloniumso just go to terminakl and paste dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=101:13
dyloniumand it should make my MBR recover?01:14
nickrudciplogic, ok. You have a partition that's /hda1 , it's a fat32, and it has a totally useless label name. You want to change it to something useful ?01:14
blindyes dylonium01:14
dyloniumTHANKS SO MUCH01:14
ciplogicnickrud: was fat3201:14
dyloniumill be back in shortly01:14
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nickrudciplogic, was fat32, is now?01:14
dyloniumcan i set this irc chat as a favorite?01:14
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ciplogicnickrud: now ext3 :P01:14
ciplogicnickrud: was until some moments ReiserFS01:14
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_jim_k ill go rebooting now01:15
dyloniumill be back possibly01:15
dyloniumpray for me-- hah01:15
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ciplogicnickrud: every case mounted well, I know how to edit fstab,etc. only has a bad label :((01:15
nickrudciplogic, if it's an ext3 partition, do:   sudo e2label /dev/hda1 <name you want>01:15
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ciplogicshould I logoff from gnome?01:16
linxehI'm having a problem with my SD/MMC card reader - [4490680.628000]  generic_make_request: Trying to access nonexistent block-device mmcblk0 (0). I have tried mknod to create the device (even though there was a device there already) and it still isn't working. Any ideas?01:16
ciplogicnickrud: no effect :(01:16
ciplogicI umount and mount again :(01:16
nickrudciplogic, no, you can do that from a terminal from inside gnome01:16
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ciplogicI've done that01:17
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biovorehttp://packages.ubuntu.com/  good for looking up package depencies01:17
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Seewaiis it possible to change the xorg bit depth on the fly?01:17
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Seewaidoes anyone know01:17
dyloniumit didnt work people01:17
dylonium*dd if=filename of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1*01:17
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ciplogicseewai: nope... xrandr can change refresh and resolution01:18
dyloniumit said, dd: opening `filename': No such file or directory01:18
blindwhat error did it give you, dylonium ?01:18
jarleHow do I install a .deb file that I have already downloaded to my HD? (Opera)01:18
Seewaibut it's not possible to change the bit depth?01:18
rustlerharvSeewai: idk if anything you would have to reboot x01:18
Hobbsee!tell jarle about deb01:18
JowiSeewai: not possible. i can change resolutions though and refresh rate01:18
nickrudciplogic that works here01:18
blindno no, you have to put an actual filename01:18
dyloniumwhats that mean?01:18
biovoreSeewai: hit ctrl alt + a few times..  if xorg is setup right you will flip though different modes and res01:18
dyloniumwhat filename01:18
kingspawndylonium: filename is just the filename of the mbr you said you had saved01:18
dyloniumi dont know the actual directory01:18
nickrudciplogic, on my mounted home partition (the things I try for people here :)01:18
ciplogicnickrud: life is anfair :)01:18
dyloniumanyone know of the mbr extension for windows?01:19
Seewaioh well01:19
dyloniumdo you guys get paid to help out?01:19
nickruddylonium, I get plenty of razzies, I live on them :)01:19
dyloniumjust makes u guys better right?01:19
Seewaicheers anyways01:19
kingspawnwe get paid in smiles01:19
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dyloniumwait, so anyone know the filename i can try?01:19
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blinddylonium, you have to use the filename of the mbr01:20
redguydylonium: did you do a backup of your mbr with dd earlier?01:20
biovoredylonium: mbr extention?01:20
kingspawndylonium: did you specifically do "dd if=/dev/hda of=file bs=512 count=1" at one time?01:20
kingspawndylonium: what did you call the file?01:20
dyloniumidk about a backup01:20
niocinhey when i type mkdir /media/partitionname01:20
dyloniumi still have it tho01:20
niocinit says "access denied01:20
dyloniumits just GRUB tries to override it on the boot01:20
kingspawnniocin: sudo01:20
blindsudo, niocin01:20
dyloniumso do you know where i can find this file?01:20
kingspawndylonium: grub cant override this one, if youve got it01:21
kingspawndylonium: where did you save it? thats the question.01:21
niocinso type sudo mkdir /media/pat01:21
redguyniocin: is it by any chance a windows partition?01:21
dyloniummy internal hdd01:21
dyloniumand i partitioned my ex hdd01:21
niocinyeah redguy01:21
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blindyes niocin01:21
dyloniumand then it tries to load grub, btu its on the ex and it tries to read the internal one01:21
redguy!tell niocin about ntfs01:21
dyloniumand then my comoputer gets stuck01:21
nickruddylonium, people hang out here to help for a lot of reason, but every single one of us does it for one reason: we want your os to work01:21
blinddiskmounter for ntfs. can't beat it in ease and quickness......01:22
dyloniumget what im saying?01:22
kingspawndylonium: you put the mbr on your external hd?01:22
dyloniumno, its on my internal hdd01:22
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redguyniocin: read the wiki link ubotu sent you01:22
niocinthank you01:22
redguyniocin: if it's NTFS then write access is not supported01:22
dyloniumi have to go eaty, ill be back in 5min01:23
ciplogicnickrud: how do I choose to reconfigure GNOME and reget the all configs?01:23
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ciplogicnickrud: I believe that is a problem of GNOME01:23
dyloniumplease stay ehre, give me 10 minutes01:23
nickrudciplogic, you mean, reset your desktop to as if you have just started from scratch?01:23
amphiniocin: you might want to check out 'captive ntfs'01:23
ciplogicnickrud: yes01:23
moparfan90im trying to lunch boot-up manager and i get this error "Failed to run bum as user root:01:23
moparfan90 Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file"     what do i do??01:23
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ciplogicI use GNOME01:23
ciplogicand as metapackage: ubuntu-desktop01:24
amphiciplogic: shh ;)01:24
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nickrudciplogic, rm -r .gconf/* .gconfd/* .gnome/* .gnome2/*01:24
_jim_hey guys01:24
_jim_i made the dir /media/windows01:24
_jim_but when im trying to mount first the ntfs01:24
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_jim_it says      mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist01:25
ciplogicI log off and I will relogin01:25
rustlerharvif its ntfs you need differnt options in fstab01:25
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amphi_jim_: what does ls -l /dev/hda1 show?01:25
codecaineI have samba installed I don't see smbadduser anywhere01:26
_jim_root@10:~# ls -l /dev/hda101:26
_jim_ls: /dev/hda1: No such file or directory01:26
amphi_jim_: how did you do that? ;)01:26
rustlerharvit shoulden if it didnt mount it01:26
_jim_so , what i should do ?01:27
rustlerharv_jim_: is hda 1 ntfs or fat01:27
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rustlerharvdid you put the same lines in fstab as the fat01:27
niocinokay i did the diskmounter thing and it says no available partitions01:27
_jim_its different01:27
rustlerharvwhat did you put01:27
amphi_jim_: it seems you lack the file in /dev for some reason01:28
NickGarvey_jim_: which is bad01:28
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niocinredguy: i type sudo fdisk -l it gives me my 200gb external, like it lists it there, but i cant access it anywehre, or am i just blind?01:28
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NickGarvey_jim_: because even if there is nothing there.. /dev/hda10 should still be there01:28
ciplogicI hate my drive C :)01:28
NickGarveywel 901:28
_jim_rustlerharv, i typed something different before for fat01:28
kingspawnniocin: what does the fdisk -l output? pastebin it01:28
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NickGarveyoh wait01:29
NickGarveymaybe not.01:29
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niocinkingspawn: pastebin?01:29
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niocinkingspawn: oh i didnt that earlier01:29
ubotupastebin is probably http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=126901:29
redguyniocin: sorry, cant help you, got to go01:29
rustlerharvthe option is differnt too01:29
Bog_is there an ubuntu virtual machine?01:29
rustlerharv_jim_: i tihnk its umask=002 for ntfs01:30
crimsunfor version 5.10, yes, Bog_.01:30
niocinkingspawn: i mean i did that earlier01:30
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Bog_crim: where would I download it?01:30
crimsun_jim_: 022.01:30
_jim_in FAQ it says 022201:30
rustlerharvlook it up cuz thats off mory01:30
kingspawnniocin: oh, I didnt know that01:30
crimsunBog_: from vmware's Web site01:30
Bog_crim: I dont mean the player, I mean a pre-installed ubuntu image01:31
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_jim_still the same about special device dont exist01:31
ciplogicI will remove gtk and I will reinstall metapackage Ubuntu-dekstop and will reconfigure the drives01:31
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amphi_jim_: you can recreate the device file (if you need to) by doing 'cd dev; sudo mknod -m 660 hda1 b 3 1 && sudo chgrp disk hda1'01:31
niocinkingspawn: are you looking at my pastebin? or what. I'm new to this.01:31
rustlerharv_jim_: 0222 is right01:32
amphi_jim_: make that 'cd /dev' above, sorry01:32
_jim_guys , i tried to mount fat and it saying same thing : mount: special device /dev/hda2 does not exist01:32
amphi_jim_: note the leading slash01:32
kingspawnniocin: I dont know where your pastebin is01:32
kingspawnniocin: I would need the url01:33
_jim_im in /dev01:33
produkt_what's libdb-4.2.so and how do I get it?01:33
nickrud_jim_, sudo fdisk -l will tell you about your available partitions, does hda2 appear?01:33
amphi_jim_: ok - no hda? files at all?01:33
Siviki need some help with some wireless drivers01:33
ciplogic_jim_ : use sudo fdisk /dev/hda01:33
niocinkingspawn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1290301:33
_jim_with fdisk -l i see many things01:33
ciplogic_jim_: if starts means that you have hda01:33
_jim_non of them is HDA01:33
_jim_every is SDA01:33
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amphi_jim_: arrgh01:34
ciplogic_jim_ : pressing P will show the partition list01:34
nickrud_jim_, ah01:34
kingspawnniocin: okay, is the 200gb drive the one you want to interact with?01:34
niocinkingspawn: yeah and i have ubuntu installed on the 3001:34
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_jim_is it bad ?01:34
nickrudluckily (for me) I know nothing about sda stuff, I get to bow out01:34
ciplogic_jim_: SDA is for SATA/RAID drives01:35
rustlerharvive never heard of sda01:35
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ciplogicin rest works as HDA drives01:35
kingspawnniocin: okay. problem is that there are no valid partitions recognized on that disk. what kind of filesystem have you got on it?01:35
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amphirustlerharv: first scsi device01:35
_jim_i can mount them too , right ?01:35
Jowihow do I export display :0 in tightvncserver?01:35
_jim_i got sata01:35
niocinkingspawn: its a fat16 i believe01:35
_jim_so i just change the letter H with S and try ?01:35
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niocinkingspawn: or is that not what your asking haha01:36
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ciplogic_jim_: to mount a /dev/sda1 like vfat you may use that command: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -fs vfat01:36
kingspawnniocin: yes, thats what i am asking. if you do sudo cfdisk /dev/hdd, and choose print, what does it output?01:36
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ciplogicyou should have created a folder named: /media/sda101:37
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dyloniumim back01:37
ciplogicSoon my Linux will quit :)01:37
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dyloniumwait, so where is the MBR located for windows?01:38
bobbydi want to add: "export PATH=$PATH:$PSPDEV/bin/" every time I log in, where should I put that so every shell I open has that set? .bashrc?01:38
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kingspawndylonium: I am telling you, this really does depend on where you saved that file01:38
niocinkingspawn: raw - sectors - table - cancle01:38
kingspawnbobbyd: /etc/login.defs01:38
dyloniumthe default place01:38
dyloniumfor windows01:38
bobbydkingspawn, thanks01:38
kingspawnniocin: no info about partitions at all?01:38
dyloniumshould it be like C:/WINDOWS/filename01:38
bobbydkingspawn, but I just want it for my user, not everyone...01:38
_jim_do i need to mount my ntfs primary boot sda1 ?01:39
nickruddylonium, the mbr is on the very beginning of a device: far more often than not on the first hard drive on the first socket on the mother board01:39
kingspawndylonium: there is no default place. the MBR is 512 bytes at the beginning of your disk telling grub/windows where to boot01:39
_jim_its already in desktop but i cant access it01:39
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niocinkingspawn: yeah like name: hdd1 ---part type : primary---FS type: FAT1601:39
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txoinaswenas gente01:39
txoinasalgun espaol ?01:39
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ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:39
kingspawnniocin: now we're talking01:39
dyloniumhow can i fix my problem then?01:39
niocinkingspawn haha01:39
moparfan90hello... im running xubuntu and downloaded a theme... how do i extract it?01:39
dyloniumi was told i have to get my recovery disk and go into the recover mode and type: fix mbr01:39
kingspawnniocin: okay, out of cfdisk, and: sudo mkdir /media/hdd101:39
Sivikanyone use the drivers for the bcm43xx wireless cards?01:40
NickGarveySivik: pick me pick me01:40
kingspawndylonium: not "fix mbr" but "fixmbr"01:40
ubotuTo use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.01:40
NickGarveyI win01:40
niocinkingspawn: okay01:40
txoinasi try, sudo apt-get install etherboot but not install, how install it01:40
kingspawnniocin: done that?01:40
niocinkingspawn: yep01:40
dyloniumbut how can i do this in a shorter form?01:40
dyloniumcause i cant get into my CD01:40
dyloniumit needs a pw01:40
dyloniumand i dotn ahve itm, and its not my windows default username01:40
dyloniumand troubleshooting ideas?01:41
linxehis there any way I can manually remove an entry from the installed package list ?01:41
kingspawnniocin: now: sudo mount -t msdos /dev/hdd1 /media/hdd101:41
Sivikthat url doesn't exsit01:41
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niocinkingspawn: okay, and it didnt say anything after, was it supposed to?01:41
NickGarveySivik: oh that sucks, let me check it01:41
codecaineI did smbpasswd -a codecaine then enter the password twice same password I use on window and linux and user name but still can't see the shared folder on winxp pro01:41
niocinkingspawn: OMG IT WORKED01:41
niocinkingspawn: i love you01:41
nickruddylonium, if you were trying to get an mbr that booted linux, you'd probably get lots of help here, for fixing windows ?01:41
niocinkingspawn: haha01:41
kingspawnniocin: :)01:41
NickGarveySivik: yes it does..01:41
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kingspawnniocin: lets get married ;)01:41
NickGarveySivik: 1. Using Broadcom Wireless in Ubuntu Breezy 5.1001:42
kingspawnniocin: great01:42
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niocinkingspawn: OKAY! hha01:42
Sivikthats what it gave me01:42
dyloniumim so confused01:42
SivikNick: thats what it gave me01:42
NickGarveySivik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx01:42
niocinkingspawn: is there an easier way instead of typeing or coyping out kingspawn: every time?01:42
niocinkingspawn: haha01:42
dyloniumdoes anyone know how to troubleshoot a windows admin passwrod?01:42
kingspawnniocin: Yes there is, you need to add this entry to your /etc/fstab01:42
ubotuFor help with microsoft windows, please visit ##windows01:42
nickrudI thought I heard somewhere that cafuego had done some work on the bcm43xx recently01:42
Sivikthere we go01:43
Sivikit worked that way01:43
kingspawnniocin: sudo nano /etc/fstab01:43
niocinkingspawn: mmk now?01:43
Jowihow do I export display :0 in tightvncserver? i can export :1 and so on without problem.01:43
cafuegonickrud: I only packaged the firmware, nothing else.01:43
_jim_YUPEEEEEEEEE I mounted my 2 fat32 partitions!01:43
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dyloniumill still stay in here01:43
nickrudcafuego, I brought it up because of :01:43
_jim_now guys , i need help how to access the already mounted Primary Boot partition01:43
dyloniumjust in case i need help01:43
ubotuTo use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.01:43
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kingspawnniocin: look at the other entries, at the bottom, start a new entry, and make it like: /dev/hdd1 /media/hdd1 msdos,umask=0000,fmask=0111,auto01:44
moparfan90how do i extract a .tar.gz file in terminal???01:44
kingspawnmoparfan90: tar zxvf file01:44
derekSmoparfan90: tar xvzf file01:44
nickrudcafuego, was mentioned as a bad link, my bad for not checking01:44
kingspawnderekS: ;)01:44
xnullhow can I make archives with zip ?01:44
jimcooncatnautilus question: I want to right-click on a file and get the md5sum. How to set this up so it's easy?01:44
dyloniumzip cvf filename.zip ?01:45
linxehzip filename.zip list.of.files01:45
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linxehyou may need -r for recursive01:45
_jim_hey guys how i can label my mounted partitions ?01:45
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niocinkingspawn: i have no clue haha, its fine i'll just stick to typing it out for now lmao01:46
moparfan90where are the themes stored for xfce?01:46
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kingspawnniocin: if you just add the line i gave you to the end of /etc/fstab, you should be okay01:46
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xnulllinxeh filename.zip dirs ?01:46
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chuckshello , could someone help me with a trouble i got with my laptop?01:46
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linxehxnull: zip -r filename.zip dirs01:47
zythAnyone here ever install/use ISPConfig on Ubuntu?01:47
nicolas__how do i manually get the pubkey for aptget ?01:47
xnulllinxeh thanks01:47
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moroseoyeee i'm back :(01:47
moparfan90sudo apt-get install pubkey .... maybe01:47
moparfan90lol idk01:47
CaminomasterHow can I configure aMSn to talk? (audio)01:48
christianpiperGAH! Anyone know how to find/install libcario1 on a ubununtu dapper machine?01:48
niocinkingspawn: i type that out and then i hit ctrl+x to get out then hit y to save and it says error writing /ect/fstab01:48
jmgapt-get install ubuntu-keyring01:48
niocinkingspawn: no such file dir01:48
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kingspawnniocin: /etc, not /ect01:48
johntramphey i have a problem with the xorg in ubuntu on my brother's computer.  he just installed 5.10 and then updated everything overnight and then this morning xorg wouldn't start,  so I reinstalled the ATI modules and now xorg starts but there are 8 overlapping screens01:48
johntramphas anyone seen this before?01:48
xnulllinxeh i got some warnings zip warning: name not matched: acs39co/acs39co/homedir/catalogs/acs39co/images01:48
nicolas__jmg: thx01:48
nickrudnicolas__, gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv  437D05B5      gpg --export --armor 437D05B5  | sudo apt-key add -01:49
xnulllinxeh: its everything ok? or ?01:49
linxehjohntramp: I've had no end of trouble with the ATI drivers so far01:49
linxehbut I'm using Dapper, so :o01:49
morosedoes one have to install spamassassin manually on breezy badger01:49
linxehxnull: does that path exist ?01:49
nickrudnicolas__, erm, sorry  use :gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv  437D05B5  && gpg --export --armor 437D05B5  | sudo apt-key add -01:49
linxehmorose: think its in either multiverse or universe01:49
niocinkingspawn: er thats what i typed haha01:49
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xnulllinxeh: its a link01:49
nicolas__nickrud: thats what i was looking for but installing ubuntu-keyring fixed it01:49
CaminomasterHow can I configure aMSn to talk? (audio)01:49
johntramplinxeh, well he doesn't need 3d rendering,  just to be able to use the computer01:50
kingspawnniocin: there is no doubt that you have a /etc/fstab - you arent on a live cd are you?01:50
nickrudnicolas__, I'm always glad to hear of a shortcut :)01:50
moroselinxeh: s'anks01:50
matth-wIt actually almost seems like I'm having a problem running my hardware...01:50
matth-wBecause my cam isn't working, my cd-r is having problems.01:50
ciplogicnickrud: I was reinstalled GNOME and no progress :(01:50
niocinkingspawn: nope i'm on a install cd01:50
_jim_why i cant access Systen>Administration>Login Screen Setup ??????????/01:50
linxehjohntramp: have a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf, see the card/screen/Driver whatever section, and change it to "ati" from fglrx if that is what is there01:50
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kingspawnniocin: then /etc/fstab exists, undoubtedly.01:50
linxehxnull: humm01:50
kbrooksCaminomaster: #amsn ?01:50
linxehxnull: zip files wont handle links well - its not a windows concept I guess; why not use tar.gz ?01:51
nickrudciplogic, labels on a volume are nice, but not critical.01:51
niocinkingspawn: actually bro it doesnt01:51
xnulllinxeh : cuz tar is not working01:51
_jim_hey whats the FAQ ubuntu official site ?01:51
ciplogicnickrud: you have right... :P01:51
ubotu[vnc]  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)01:51
linxehxnull: what does tar do ?01:51
christianpiperHello-- Does anybody know if it is possible to install libcario1 on dapper? I am trying to get Dr Queue installed...01:51
ubotuThe most Frequently Asked Questions of #ubuntu are summarized on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaqOnIrc - please have a look - see also !desktopguide01:51
kingspawnniocin: seriously? you are 100% sure here? ls -l /etc/fstab01:51
xnulllinxeh: core dumped i was hacked01:51
johntramplinxeh, ah yes that was the first error -  missing module fglrx01:51
amphixnull: see the -y option for zip for symlink option01:51
niocinkingspawn: wait, isnt /dev/hdd1 my 200gb one, i didnt install ubuntu on that01:51
Jowi!info x11vnc01:51
steelanyone have any idea how to get symlinks working in proftpd?01:51
johntramplinxeh, ill try that01:51
ubotux11vnc: (VNC server which uses your current X11 session), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.7.1-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 420 kB, Installed size: 920 kB01:51
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ciplogicchristianpiper: it is installed by default01:52
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kingspawnniocin: this is just to tell the system that it should make /dev/hdd1 available all the time01:52
linxehjohntramp,: it should work to get you up and runnign again - its what I've had to do here01:52
linxehxnull: ouch; want a binary for tar?01:52
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xnulllinxeh: nope01:52
ic56Trying to install on a bad harddisk.  How do I tell the installer to run01:52
niocinkingspawn: yeah dude i'm in on file browser on etc and i dont see fstab01:52
ic56badblocks(8) when creating the filesystems?01:52
kingspawnniocin: get into a terminal, and type ls -l /etc/fstab01:53
linxehmaybe another thing you could do is make a ext2 filesystem in a file, and mount it with loopback?01:53
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linxehassuming you are trying to backup files01:53
ciplogicis name is: /usr/lib/libcairo.so.201:53
kingspawnniocin: if it didnt exist, you probably wouldnt be able to boot your os01:53
nickrudniocin, are you saying that /etc/fstab doesn't exist?01:53
christianpiperOn DAPPER? Really? Cause the .Deb installer said it couldn't fix the dependency- and apt-get install libcario1 didn't find the package....01:53
ciplogicyou may use a symlink to your old references01:53
xnulllinxeh: or can I do it with bunzip2? or gunzip ?01:53
denisbrHi, What is include in the package ubuntu-desktop?01:53
linxehxnull: those will only handle single files at a time; you normally use them with tar01:53
ciplogicthe package is named: libcairo201:53
linxehxnull: you might be able to use cpio to create a cpio archive (older form of tar really), and gzip that etc01:54
niocinkingspawn: it says -rw-r--r--  1 root root 464 2005-07-08 06:08 /etc/fstab01:54
ciplogicbut inside has references to libcairo101:54
kingspawnniocin: it exists! now: sudo nano /etc/fstab01:54
amphixnull: why can't you use tar?01:54
scorchsaberHey, I want to install firefox, and I was wondering: Should I compile from source, or follow the directions for the default tar.gz that you can download (instructions:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion)01:54
linxehamphi: it cores01:54
nickrudchristianpiper, try libcairo201:54
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niocinkingspawn: hahaha woops, i was typing ect the entire time.......*slaps self*01:54
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ElazarCan anyone recommend a simple tool for Ubuntu that I can use to add text to a PDF file or export it to some editable format that won't rip the document formatting to shreds?01:54
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nickrudchristianpiper, but dapper questions should be in #ubuntu+101:55
kingspawnniocin: I was suspecting that ;)01:55
amphixnull: try running the tar command under gdb and see why/where it segfaults, perhaps01:55
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niocinkingspawn: sorrya bout that01:55
kingspawnniocin: its cool01:55
linxehamphi: he was hacked; I think he's just trying to backup a bunch of files01:55
farruinnscorchsaber: If there is documentation on the wiki I would follow that01:55
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niocinkingspawn: mmk did that, brb food01:55
kingspawnxnull: how did you get yourself hacked?01:56
amphilinxeh: ah01:56
scorchsaberfarruin: There is documentation for both precedures01:56
ubotuubotu is probably useless01:56
kingspawnniocin: k, leaving in about 5-1001:56
Caminomasterkbrooks, Yes,... can I configure aMSN to voice?01:56
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scorchsaberWhich should I choose?01:56
kingspawnnickrud: You know what I mean01:56
denisbrElazar, use the pdftotext for edit a pdf file01:56
linxehnickrud, depends if you are running a honeypot :)01:56
nickrudkingspawn, heh. It's all about voice :)01:57
kingspawnnickrud: :)01:57
spoonsI need to update libgcc1 to 1:4.0.2, though if I go to remove the old one it says it will take 600 and some odd meg off my hdd and that it is critical.01:57
spoonswhat do I have to do to get Blender 2.41 installed!01:57
linxehwhy remove the old one ?01:58
Elazardenisbr: That'll convert it to plain text, though, won't it?01:58
nickrudlinxeh, and I stand corrected, that would be right voice01:58
scorchsaberShould I install from source or prebuilt tar.gz?01:58
niocinkingspawn: okay i'm back01:58
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spoonslinxeh don't I need to remove the old one to find the new one?01:58
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NickGarveyspoons: same say you need to sell your soul...01:58
chuckslinxeh- hey can i ask you some help?01:58
linxehspoons: can you not just upgrade the packet ?01:58
denisbrElazar, yes, convert all text01:59
scorchsaberShould I install Firefox from source, or from the prebuilt tar.gz?01:59
farruinnscorchsaber: I would go with the the tar.gz - it won't take as long01:59
spoonsit says "libgcc1 is already the newest version."01:59
scorchsaberthank you01:59
Elazardenisbr: That's why I specifically said _won't_ rip the document formatting to shreds. :P01:59
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rustlerharvscorchsaber:  what about repos02:00
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scorchsaberrepos doesn't have up-to-date anything, really02:00
lilminimey06hi everyone02:00
nickrudscorchsaber, from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion02:00
lilminimey06everytime i connect my ipod i need to type this in a console: "mount -o users,exec,suid,umask=0 /dev/sdb2 /mnt/ipod/" how can i make this auto?02:00
romulohi, how i prevent one module from loading on kernel?02:00
kingspawnniocin: well, now you can test the fstab by first doing: sudo umount /media/hdd1  and then  sudo mount -a02:00
niocinkingspawn: mmk02:00
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scorchsabernickrud: I know, I have that page02:00
johntramplinxeh, no that didn't change anything :(02:00
denisbrWhat it is include in the package ubuntu-desktop? I want delete the package update-notifier, more is removing the package ubuntu-desktop02:00
nickrudscorchsaber, that wiki page will integrate firefox 1.5x properly with ubuntu02:00
dyloniumaha, i got the pw problem02:00
spoonsIf I upgrade to the new Beta unbuntu, will it run blender3d 2.4102:01
dyloniumso im fixed02:01
niocinkingspawn: mmk i did that, now i check in file browser?02:01
scorchsaberYes. Thanks though02:01
kingspawnniocin: seems clever02:01
denisbrElazar, Sorry, I don't program for it02:01
amphidenisbr: don't worry about that - ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package02:01
rustlerharvspoons: it runs blender02:01
scorchsaberthe one on compiling also mentions that page to integrate your compiled version02:01
nickrudscorchsaber, if you'd already seen that page, why even ask02:01
rustlerharvidk about that version02:01
niocinkingspawn: yep its there02:01
farruinnspoons: You can check versions of packages on http://packages.ubuntu.com02:02
kingspawnniocin: then you're good to go, and it will mount every boot02:02
scorchsabernickrud: I didn't know whether to compile or use the default tar.gz02:02
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spoonsrustlerharv do you know if it is version 2.41? I can install blender 2.37 but its missing features I need for the tutorials.02:02
scorchsaberit was a deciosion02:02
ic56denisbr: dpkg -L ubuntu-desktop02:02
denisbramphi, humm, then How I removed the update-notifier our disabilited the automatic run?02:02
lilminimey06dont anyone know?02:02
niocinkingspawn: mmk saweet, now about the whole typing out kingspawn: thing, is that something i'm just gonna have to do, or can i like shift click?02:02
nickrudscorchsaber, ah. Sorry, I hadn't seen it since some effort to mention self-compiled packages had been added.02:02
amphidenisbr: huh?02:02
kingspawnniocin: what do you mean now?02:02
lilminimey06i need to do that my ipod automaticly mounts when connected02:02
amphiipod schmipod02:03
scorchsabernickrud: I don't understand. What?02:03
rustlerharvspoons: im running 2.4102:03
nicolas__is there a metapackage for all the stuff that is normally installed at first boot ?02:03
denisbramphi, How I removed the package update-notifier ?02:03
niocinkingspawn: how i have to type out kingspawn: every time, is there an easier way?02:03
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kingspawnniocin: oh, heh, just type ki and hit tab02:03
amphidenisbr: htf would I know how you removed it?02:03
nickrudscorchsaber, never mind me. I'll just point at that page, and shut up :)02:03
niocinkingspawn, nice02:04
rustlerharvidk how to use it yet but thats what im runnning02:04
scorchsabernickrud: :D02:04
niocinkingspawn, that makes me less typing haha02:04
Sivikwhat is the easy way to upgrade from breezy to dapper?02:04
grungyI ruined my sources.list and ran apt-get upgrade-dist02:04
kingspawnniocin: does, doesnt it? :)02:04
spoonsrustlerharv do you know if I can upgrade ubuntu to the latest version without messing up my setup?02:04
scorchsaberthanks anyway nickrud02:04
niocinkingspawn, lol02:04
amphiniocin: soon you'll find yourself trying to tab-complete every word ;)02:04
hondadarrellanyone know where the C: drive is in wine?02:04
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niocinamphi, LOL yeah watch02:04
NickGarveyhondadarrell: need to mount it.. !mount02:05
kingspawnoh well, im off for the night02:05
rustlerharvspoons: upgrading to dapper in general or for blender02:05
amphiniocin: there's a script for irssi that uses a dictionary to let you do just that02:05
denisbramphi, yes, our How I then for to remove the execute automatic?02:05
spoonsrustlerharv upgrading to dapper02:05
ubotumount is probably the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f02:05
scorchsaberIs there any terminal that accepts a command like Ctrl-V and C?02:05
scorchsaberI mean, i makes it a bit difficult02:05
grungyIs it possible to edit the sources.list in /etc/apt/sources.list from the cli?02:05
greenbmw530ican someone help me out with the flashplayer plugin for firefox?02:05
scorchsaberit* makes it a bit difficult02:06
niocinamphi, LoL wow you linux users get WAY lazy huh?02:06
kingspawnscorchsaber: ctrl-insert is copy, shift-insert is paste02:06
kingspawngrungy: yes yes02:06
niocinkingspawn, hey wait, if i want to put somehting on the hd, or change the name it wont let met02:06
inazad_Anyone can help me about my nividia tv out ?02:06
greenbmw530ican someone help me  with the flashplayer plugin for firefox?02:06
rustlerharvspoons: i tihnk it would prolly depend ive upgrade b4 with no problems other then having to reenable me nvidia drivers02:07
linxehniocin, it's not a linux thing :p02:07
grungycould you possibly tell me a way02:07
niocinlinxeh, haha02:07
grungyit would be most appreciated02:07
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farruinnscorchsaber: if you're in gnome-terminal just add shift for your ctrl-c/v type stuff02:07
amphidenisbr: sorry, you are hard to understand; you can use apt-get to remove the package; nothing else will be removed, just the ubuntu-desktop meta-package will no longer be installed, because one of the packages it 'contains' is being removed02:07
scorchsaberHm.. thanks02:07
kingspawnniocin: type !vfat in the channel here, and read the link on the wiki02:07
ubotuDownload and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions02:07
amphiniocin: heh02:07
NickGarveyamphi: where can I find that script!? I have done that more than once, be like... supercali (tab tab tab) hey what the?...02:08
rustlerharvspoons: what tutorial are you r\unning02:08
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greenbmw530ican someone help me  with the flashplayer plugin for firefox?02:08
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amphiNickGarvey: heh - irssi.org02:08
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nickrudgreen_earz, sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree02:09
vinboyhow do I check my Xorg version?02:09
varsendaggerahh my computer keeps rebooting when i leave   how can i find out why it is doing this?02:09
Sivikgreen: are you using i386 or x86_64?02:09
greenbmw530ii get a "NOTE:  Please ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the02:09
greenbmw530i components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser"02:09
nickrudvinboy, X -version02:09
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Sivikthen it should be very simple02:09
amphiNickGarvey: dictcomplete.pl it's called02:09
grungycould someone possible tell me how to edit a text file from the cli?02:09
greenbmw530iwhen i try to delete the two xpti.dat's, it says I don't have access.02:09
Sivikjust go to a page that needs the plugin and click on the plugin02:09
greenbmw530ithen i download02:09
_jasongrungy: nano /path/to/file02:09
grungygedit will certainly not work02:09
scorchsaberscorchsaber@ubuntuDJ:/$ mv .mozilla/firefox .mozilla/firefox1.0.x.ubuntu02:09
scorchsabermv: cannot stat `.mozilla/firefox': No such file or directory02:09
Siviktry vi02:09
grungycommand line interface02:09
Sivikvi works02:10
Sivikvi filenam02:10
grungydamn, I don't know vi02:10
greenbmw530iread the readme...do it, but i get "NOTE: Please ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the02:10
greenbmw530i      components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser"02:10
grungyhow about emacs?02:10
scorchsaberWhats up with that? .mozilla is a hidden file, and there, and so is firefox in it. What do I need to do?02:10
NickGarveygrungy: nano then?02:10
nickrudgreenbmw530i, use sudo to remove those files (although I never had to)02:10
grungyseems more intuitive02:10
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Sivikgreen: it should it do automatily02:10
amphigrungy: there's mcedit too02:10
greenbmw530iit tells me i need an administrator to do so02:10
vinboythanks nickrud02:10
greenbmw530ibut i'll try sudo02:10
grungywould sudo vi filename work also02:10
nickrudgrungy, for editing system files, yes02:11
greenbmw530ibtw, how can i just log in as root/admin so i don't have to worry about things like this?02:11
sethkgrungy, sure02:11
nickrudgreenbmw530i, use sudo02:11
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j1pgr33npho3nix, logging in as root is bad, use sudo02:11
grungycool, thanks, this is great02:11
grungyI love it02:11
sethkgreenbmw530i, it's better to do sudo -i to get a root command shell02:11
scorchsabergreenbmw530i: You really don't want to, bad for security and all02:11
greenbmw530iok, thanks02:11
nickrudgreenbmw530i, it's a way of getting admin/root privileges, and a safe one02:11
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dligreenbmw530i, I enable root passwd on ubuntu :)02:11
scorchsaberwhats up with this:02:11
scorchsaberscorchsaber@ubuntuDJ:/$ mv .mozilla/firefox .mozilla/firefox1.0.x.ubuntu02:11
scorchsabermv: cannot stat `.mozilla/firefox': No such file or directory02:11
farruinnsethk: What's the difference between sudo -i and sudo -s -H?02:11
nickruddli, don't tempt people :)02:12
scorchsaberThere is that directory02:12
scorchsaberBut it won't move it?02:12
johntramplinxeh, hmmm now all i get is a black screen02:12
grungywell the problem is is that I ruined my sources.list for apt, so I'm stuck sans gui02:12
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grungyI'll try vi02:12
sethkfarruinn, -s sets the shell for each command, it isn't about getting a shell to enter multiple commands02:12
grungythanks guys02:12
nickrudfarruinn, you can see for yourself: do sudo -i , then env | sort. Then do sudo , then env | sort .02:13
Sivikhow do you upgrade from brezzy to dapper02:13
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scorchsabersolved it02:13
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .02:13
scorchsaberhad to add ~/ in front02:13
_jasonSivik: beware that dapper is still beta02:13
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scorchsaberI'll change the wiki to support that I guess02:13
Siviki don't care02:13
greenbmw530ibah, whats the command to delete files in terminal?02:13
nickrudfarruinn, the critical issue is what is your home dir, sudo -i uses /root and sudo uses /home/<you>02:13
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Siviki need the newer kernel02:13
_jasongreenbmw530i: rm02:13
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_jasonubotu: tell greenbmw530i about cli02:13
Sivikrm green02:13
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RedbluefireHey, X refuses to start on my fresh ubuntu install02:14
Sivikgreen: its rm and if its a folder, its rm -r02:14
greenbmw530imany thanks02:14
RedbluefireI've tracked it to the config file, but dexconf errors out02:14
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Sivikgreen: yw02:14
johntrampcan't i browse the ubuntu forums without registering?02:14
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nickrudRedbluefire, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't get you a working X?02:15
niocinWill someone help me install wine?02:15
newbuntucan anyone tell me what the best way to convert a downloaded avi movie into  mpg so I can turn around and have k3b burn it to a vcd that can be watched on a dvdplayer?02:15
crimsunniocin: enable universe, then use Synaptic to install wine02:15
nickrudno, wine is evil (rflmao)02:15
NickGarveynewbuntu: I saw a perl script, avi2mpeg02:15
newbuntuniocin apt-get install wine  then install winetools02:15
ic56cat: ../q1: No such file or directory02:16
j1pniocin, you should use the wine apt repository, instead of ubuntu's02:16
newbuntuim still shakey on scripts02:16
RedbluefirePassword? what's the default root password, or is it my password?02:16
niocinjlp, how woudl i do that?02:16
linxehjohntramp: humm; maybe you dont have the xorg-driver-ati package installed ?02:16
nickrudRedbluefire, there is no root password02:16
j1pniocin, add deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/ to your sources.list02:16
nickrud!tell Redbluefire about root02:16
linxehjohntramp, or the display settings (refresh, resolution etc) is incorrect for the driver ?02:16
niocinjlp, i've done that02:17
ic56Trying to install on a bad harddisk.  How do I tell the installer to run badblocks(8) when creating the filesystems?02:17
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nickrudRedbluefire, that msg you just got will give you an overview02:17
j1pniocin, alright, have you updated /etc/apt/preferences?02:17
Redbluefirenope, x still has the same error02:17
niocinjlp, nope02:17
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steelhow do i mount only a subdirectory of a hard drive into another hard drive02:17
j1pniocin, http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb should have all the information you need02:17
linxehic56: ctrl+alt+f1, get a command prompt and do it by hand, then dont let the installer format maybe ?02:17
niocinjlp, okay02:17
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rustlerharvsteel: what file systems02:18
nickrudRedbluefire, if you'd post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:18
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dougiefreshgreetings, what is the latest stable release of ubuntu?02:18
Redbluefirehmm, it's on the other computer, can i do that via command prompt?02:18
amphisteel: you mount partitions02:18
steela windows partition02:18
johntramplinxeh, usually when they are the problem xorg wont start tho wont it?  would it have anything to do with the dri line?02:18
rustlerharvntfs or fat02:18
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nickrudRedbluefire, hm, yes, there's a script to help with that, a sec02:18
schultzihey, quick question, is there any way i can get an image background for my framebuffer?02:19
amphisteel: mount -t vfat /dev/whatever /mount/point02:19
rustlerharvyou should be able mv them02:19
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johntramplinxeh, is there an xorgconfig of some sort which i can run so that it generates the same xorg file as after a new install?02:19
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steelbut how do i mount only part of the drive... i dont want to mount the whole HD only a subdirectory within it02:19
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rustlerharvsteel: y not the whole ting02:20
amphisteel: you mount partitions02:20
majdcan i use wine to install my camera's driver and then load up msn messenger (also using wine) and use my webcam?02:20
dougiefreshbreezy is out of beta isn't it?02:20
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crimsunbreezy released in october 2005.02:20
brandon_steel: the path to the subdirectory should be in the /dev/whatever section02:20
steelim sharing it for FTP, don't need to FTP my personal files02:20
ic56dougiefresh: breezy badger (5.10) is current.  Dapper Drake, the next one, is due June 1st02:20
schultzimajd: it probably wont work, something as low-level as drivers dont play well with wine02:20
brandon_steel: so /dev/drive/pathtodirectory02:20
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nickruddoes anyone have seveas's python pastebin script at hand, I can't seem to google it02:21
steelwrong slash02:21
myleftfoothehe, wrong slashy02:21
dougiefreshso if I'm running breezy what would I put in apt.sources file?02:21
Seveasnickrud, perhaps it's linked on the pastebin site....02:22
nickrudSeveas, doh, kick me again :)02:22
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majdwhat kernel version does breezy 5.10 use?02:22
rustlerharvdougiefresh: change breezy to dapper02:22
Seveasmajd, 2.6.1202:22
majdk thanks02:22
dougiefreshbut isn't dapper beta?02:22
steelwhat kernal do i have to have to mount things to multiple places02:23
schultzianybody good with framebuffers?02:23
dougiefreshdont wanna use beta02:23
Sivikhow do i upgrade from breezy to dapper02:23
amphisteel: what do you mean?02:23
Seveas!tell Sivik about upgrade02:23
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nickrudSeveas I meant the one that doesn't need a gui, I know I saw it once02:23
steelamphi: there's a new kernal that allows mounting HDs to multiple places, i might not be that high up02:23
scorchsaberFirefox is correctly installed, and an error in the wiki changed02:23
rustlerharvdougiefresh: then dont upgrae02:23
biovoresteel: thats nothing new02:24
nickrudSeveas, and you need a better sense of humor, or a better sense of context02:24
dougiefreshnothing trying to upgrade?02:24
dougiefreshtrying to bootstrap it02:24
varsendaggerSeveas, ahh my computer keeps rebooting when i leave   how can i find out why it is doing this?02:24
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steelwell i dont think mine is doing it02:24
astro9040on .deb files i use dpkg right?02:24
steelbecause when i try to mount it it says it doesnt exist02:24
steeland it does02:25
PuMpErNiCkLesteel: Wouldn't using a symlink be easier?02:25
amphisteel: you can't mount a directory02:25
varsendaggeris there a crash report that i can read, it weems to do it everyday since i redid my system02:25
steeli thought... i could mount a subdirectory, and symlinks dont work in ftp02:25
PuMpErNiCkLevarsendagger: check the output of dmesg02:25
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SivikSaveas: the command on that page doesn't work02:25
myleftfootSivik, you can use    gksudo "update-manager -d"  to upgrade to dapper02:25
NickGarveysteel: oohh.. thats why I couldn't cd over ftp to a sym link.. oh...02:25
twingeanyone had any luck getting xinerama working with a dell laptop?02:25
astro9040or the command sudo dpkg -i <.debfile>02:26
nicolas__how do you call that gnome applet that reminds you of updates ?02:26
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Siviki get an error that says "Xlib: connction to ":0.0" refused by server02:26
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PuMpErNiCkLenicolas__: update-manager02:26
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Sivikmyleftfoot: i get that error and it stops02:26
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nickrudRedbluefire, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin02:27
Redbluefirewget it?02:27
brandon_steel: you could just change your shared ftp folder fromt eh default, which i think is var/pub, to this fat folder you're mounting02:27
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sinnergtest back :p02:27
Sivikmyleftfoot: it says my system is up to date02:28
steelbrandon_: I have other things i need to have in there and the fat is read only02:28
NickGarveyshow off02:28
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Sivikthere it goes02:28
Sivikmyleftfoot: nvm02:28
steelthis is what the proftpd guide says to do,"Work arounds to allow access to other parts of the file system include exporting the part of the filesystem to be accessed from inside the chroot and mounting via NFS" how do i do that?02:28
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nicolas__PuMpErNiCkLe: this is an application02:28
nicolas__it doesnt appear on gnomes applet list02:28
Sivikwhat kernel does dapper use?02:29
linuxgeekerySivik: 2.6.1502:29
Sivikis the bcm43xx drivers in that on?02:29
NickGarvey Sivik: ndiswrapper is what I use02:29
steelit also says "As of the 2.4.x Linux kernel tree it is possible to mount filesystems multiple times and to mount subdirectories of filesystems elsewhere on the filesystem."02:29
Sivikndiswrapper is old and i could never get to work02:30
PuMpErNiCkLenicolas__: It iconifies if there are any updates.02:30
NickGarveySivik: old?02:30
niocinmmk so i did pretty much everything the wine site told me, and it installed i think but it went from settiing up wine to ... and stopped02:30
Sivikthe old way to do it02:30
Redbluefirenickrud, what's it's usage, how do I execute the script?02:30
Siviksince there are drivers now02:30
NickGarveySivik: if its old and it works why not do it?02:30
NickGarveyI still eat with my mouth but people have been doing that for thousands of years ;)02:30
SivikNick: i never can get it to work02:30
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brandon_steel: maybe when you tried to mount the folder, you got the path wrong02:30
NickGarveyah, okie, worked fine when I compiled the newest version from svn02:31
steeli hope so02:31
steellet me recheck02:31
Sivikwell, then you must be a better man than me02:31
niocinNickGarvey, hey can you help me getting wine to work?02:31
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brandon_steel: and remember, it's case sensitive02:31
NickGarveyniocin: mm I use suse, it was very easy for me, not sure how to get it to work for you02:31
majdhow can i "2) run 'make'"02:31
steeli did it right...02:32
niocincan anyone help me get wine working?02:32
Sivikwhat wrong with it niocin?02:32
Sivikdo you have it installed?02:32
linuxgeekeryniocin: what's the problem?02:32
PuMpErNiCkLemajd: If you have the 'build-essential' package installed, make sure you're in the right directory, you've run ./configure, and then just invoke 'make'.02:32
steelhow do i check my kernal version?02:32
Sivikman /proc/version02:33
PuMpErNiCkLesteel: uname -r02:33
niocinI think i got it installed, it sayd it finished downloading then it says Setting up wine (0.9.12~winehq1-1) ...02:33
niocin and then goes back to niocin@jakin:02:33
linuxgeekerysteel: uname -r02:33
biovoresteel: uname -a02:33
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nickrudRedbluefire , a sec.02:33
Sivikniocin: then type wine --help02:33
Sivikand see what you get02:33
biovore1 question 4 valid different answers02:33
linuxgeekeryniocin: or winecfg - configure wine02:33
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Sivikthat works as well02:33
brandon_steel: uname -r02:33
steelheh thanks02:33
niocinlinuxgeekery, okay that seemed to come up haha02:34
nickrudRedbluefire, I thought it was a simple 'paste the following file to the pastebin', but it's a bit better than that it seems02:34
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majdi have a Logitech Quickcam Orbit02:34
NickGarveysteel: I think it might just be uname -r02:34
majdi read that it can work in linux02:34
majdbut i can't get it working for the life of me02:34
steelim not... sure02:34
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varsendaggerPuMpErNiCkLe, hey i got the dmesg   output, what should i be looking for?02:35
niocinlinuxgeekery, if i have a other hard drive mounted, can i access a program to run off of that?02:36
niocinlinuxgeekery, because i go to applications>add app and try and find it, and it wont let me02:36
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PuMpErNiCkLevarsendagger: Anything that looks like 'fatal error' or 'panic' or 'something really bad is happening and I don't know how to handle it'.  It could be anything, really.02:36
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niocinlinuxgeekery, or do i have to run the .exe off the disk and re-install it?02:37
=== seyon est Ausente, Razo: ( cd ~ ) | Desde: ( Friday, April 14, 2006. 22:22:29 ) Xlack v2.1
varsendaggerlinux is so articulate02:37
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NickGarveyvarsendagger: expressing yourself easily or characterized by clear expressive language; "articulate speech"; "an articulate orator"; "articulate beings"02:38
NickGarveyvarsendagger: so.. thats good?02:38
niocinOr, i an not be helped..02:38
hou5tonHow do I set up a spam filter in Evolution?02:38
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NickGarveyniocin: mm I don't totally understand your question..02:38
varsendaggeri got an out of memory killed xorg02:39
jerwarewhen i clean my cookies and web browser reminance, i still see past search results in any web pages text/search bar.  such as google.  how do i delete these too?02:39
varsendagger^ that is bad02:39
steelanyone know how to to mount subdirectories of filesystems elsewhere on the filesystem?02:39
niocinNickGarvey, Well, i have wine installed, and i have a program that was installed on my mounted hd from windows, do i have to run the setup.exe off of the disk and re-install it, or can i run it off the other drive?02:39
amphivarsendagger: the curse of the OOMkiller ;)02:39
NickGarveyjerware: "saved form information" clear that02:39
jerwareamphi:  isnt oomkiller Rawplayer?02:40
NickGarveyniocin: eh.. I don't know much about wine.. notihng about how to install stuff02:40
amphijerware: ?02:40
jerwarewhats oomkiller?02:40
niocinNickGarvey, haha okay..02:40
biovoreoom.. its moo backwards..02:40
niocinAnyone famillar with wine?02:40
amphijerware: the kernel 'out of memory' process killer02:40
biovorehmm I drink wine..02:40
varsendaggerNickGarvey, Hi my name is Varsendagger, but my superpower is STanting the obvious and My real name is captian obvious02:40
ubotua large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>02:40
NickGarveyniocin: maybe #wine02:40
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varsendaggeroomkiller how do i fix it?02:41
NickGarveyvarsendagger: was that an insult?02:41
amphivarsendagger: don't run out of memory ;) do you have swap enabled?02:41
varsendaggerNickGarvey, No i Just state the obvious02:41
hou5tonHow do I set up a spam filter in Evolution?02:41
jerwareNickGarvey:  Thanx alot pal02:41
NickGarveyhou5ton: I'd look into spamassassin02:41
varsendaggeronly like 25602:41
NickGarveyjerware: :)02:41
Jinkgunshttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16855603835 <--- Bought this today. It works with linux. :D02:41
hou5tonNickGarvey:  It asks for the original Ubuntu install disk .... don't have it .... ??02:42
NickGarveynice Jinkguns02:42
jerwarenow i can take my laptop into work, show presentations, with out revealing "BLOWJOBS GALORE/POOP PORN "02:42
NickGarveyoo just nice02:42
jerwareNickGarvey ^02:42
NickGarvey!tell hou5ton about aptcd02:42
niocincan anyone help me install fluxbox?02:42
_jasonniocin: sudo aptitude install fluxbox02:42
NickGarveyjerware: thats.. good...02:42
amphivarsendagger: how much ram?02:42
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RobyXDO I type "sudo apt-get install PACKAGE.deb" to install a .deb from the desktop?02:42
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ubotuTo install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)02:42
varsendaggerNickGarvey, Thou beslubbering reeling-ripe vassal!    that is an insult02:42
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varsendaggerlike 38402:43
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niocin_jason, okay, now how do i run it02:43
NickGarveyvarsendagger: eek take it easy man you are going to make me cry with insults like thta02:43
amphivarsendagger: you could make more swap, 512 or so02:43
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amphivarsendagger: what ran you out of ram?02:43
majdWhy can't i copy-paste folders from my windows drive to my linux drive?02:43
_jasonniocin: logout and at the login screen, press the 'sessions' button and choose fluxbox02:43
varsendaggermajd, !samba02:44
ubotumethinks samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html02:44
varsendaggeramphi, NickGarvey thanks02:44
NickGarveyany time?02:44
RobyXJason, will that  "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb" install the file that is placed on my desktop?02:44
Sivikthanks for telling me how to upgrade my kernel all02:45
_jasonRobyX: first you will have to change the current working directory to the Desktop, this command would do that: cd ~/Desktop02:45
ranixHow do I run Enlightenment instead of Metacity on login but make no other changes to my GDM startup? (.Xsession hoses everything)02:45
_jasonubotu: tell RobyX about cli02:45
Sivikranix: did you install entrance?02:45
NickGarvey!tell ranix about enlightenment02:45
codecainewhen im playing flash on a webpage the sound it off from the video how can I fix that?02:45
ranixI have enlightenment02:45
ranixwhat is entrance, Sivik?02:45
codecaineI use firefox monzilla02:45
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Siviknvm, i'm wrong02:45
NickGarveyoh okie sorry02:45
_jasoncodecaine: are you using the default firefox in breezy?02:45
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amphivarsendagger: do you run gnome?02:45
codecainenaw I upgraded to the newest firefox02:46
Sivikjust set the session to default when it asks you if you want to join just this time or set as default02:46
majdvarsendagger, do i access it normally after installing samba?02:46
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ranixsivik, that will load up my normal session02:46
ranixSivik, I want to replace metacity with enlightenment in the default session02:46
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nickrudRedbluefire, just to let you know I'm still struggling, if you still need non X pastbinning02:46
Sivikthen edit the .xsession file02:46
Redbluefireyea, still need it, thanks a ton :)02:46
faroushi all just fast c question what is := stand for02:46
_jasoncodecaine: install alsa-oss and run firefox as 'aoss firefox'02:46
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codecainedid that02:47
nickrudRedbluefire, I don't currently, but I can see it in my future :)02:47
farouscodecaine: is it for mplayer plugin02:47
_jasoncodecaine: did you close all instances of firefox and then run it through aoss?02:48
codecaineaoss is saved in the config file02:48
Sivikranix: you may have to create the file, just read the readme for installing elightenment.  It will explain how to change the xsession file02:48
myleftfootThanks to All. I Love Dapper!!!02:48
_jasoncodecaine: no, you need to actually run it as 'aoss firefox' on a command line02:48
Sivikwhats new in dapper?02:48
_jasoncodecaine: that config file only works with the firefox that comes from ubuntu afaik02:48
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codecaineits a older firefox though has security holes02:49
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_jasoncodecaine: really?  what are they?02:49
hou5tonI installed spamassasin and associated packages, but don't see it anywhere ..... how do I get it to interface with Evolution?02:50
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NickGarveyhou5ton: eek no idea use google, I use kontact02:50
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Sivikdoes that make sense ranix02:50
nickrudRedbluefire, well, I haven't figured out how to use the pastebin script, sorrry02:50
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Redbluefiregah :P02:51
nickrudRedbluefire, ask the authority02:51
codecainelet me find the link02:51
nickrudRedbluefire, I got it from http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin02:51
Redbluefireyea, I wgetted it and tried to get it working02:52
iffhi has anybody had their fonts change in xfce after ctrl-alt-backspace such as the menu and titlebar?02:52
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farouscodecaine: is it for plugin for mplayer or just for flash02:52
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abkhey guys, I'm trying to get WPA working with wpa_supplicant, with the ipw2100 driver. when I run "sudo wpa_supplicant -i eth1 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -D ipw -w" I get a message "ioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA] : Operation not supported02:53
abk" and then nothing. any ideas?02:53
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abkmy instructions are all off the WPAHowto wiki page02:53
spoons9 minutes!02:53
codecainefor flash02:54
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farouscodecaine: than use _jason way you need aoss firefox02:55
hou5tonNickGarvey:  you running KDE in Ubuntu?02:55
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_jasoncodecaine: that page states ``The problem can be corrected by upgrading the affected package toversion 1.0.8-0ubuntu4.10 (for Ubuntu 4.10), 1.0.8-0ubuntu5.04 (for buntu 5.04), or 1.0.8-0ubuntu5.10 (for Ubuntu 5.10).''02:55
codecainedid it from terminal the sound is still off02:55
NickGarveyhou5ton: nope, suse 10.002:55
abkack, ka-durr. mis-set the SSID in wpa_supplicant.conf02:55
hou5tonNickGarvey:  Now you got me REAL curious ... so ... you run SuSE and hang out here to help wannabe's like me?  :-)02:56
_jasoncodecaine: did you close all instances of firefox beforehand?02:56
amphiNickGarvey: debian here ;)02:56
NickGarveyhou5ton: if you want to put it that way.. I find theres a lot more newer linux users here and I like to help them get on their feet02:57
farouscodecaine: first type killall firefox-bin02:57
Sivikthanks Nick02:57
Sivikby the way02:57
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niocin_how do i change my resolution with ubuntu02:57
Sivikhey Nick: how do i get flash to work in a 64 bit version of FC or Suse02:57
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NickGarveySivik: suse uses a 32 bit firefox, so get the 32 bit flash player02:58
hollywoodbiff: i believe your session is saved when you log out, if you ctrl+alt+backspace X, then your settings won't be preserved02:58
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farouscodecaine: than type /usr/bin/aoss /bin/sh /usr/bin/firefox02:58
NickGarveySivik: that easy02:58
nickrud!tell niocin about fixres02:58
Sivikthat would explain why its not working02:58
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Sivikcause i'm trying to download the 64 bit flash02:58
farruinnTrying to build a kernel from the linux-source-2.6.12 package but can't even get to configuration: http://pastebin.com/68213602:58
nickrud!tell Seveas about heh02:58
Sivikcause the auto doesn't work02:58
ubotufixres is, like, Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:58
_jasoncodecaine: what else do you have playing sound?02:58
ubuntulinanyone know how to delete old kernels?02:58
spoons5 minutes!02:58
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amphispoons: ?02:59
codecainejust the system02:59
codecainewhen u click on icons etc02:59
hollywoodbfarruinn: you need gcc-3.4 (ubuntu ships with gcc-4.0), apt-get install gcc-3.402:59
farouscodecaine: did you set default multimedia to alsa02:59
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farousanyway got to go now care codecaine  and care all02:59
hollywoodbfarruinn: you can have both versions installed without problems03:00
farruinnhollywoodb: Thanks - wasn't mentioned in the wiki :)03:00
spoonsupgrading my ubuntu from breezy to dapper. getting board watching my terminal screen. So I decied to tell everyone how much time was left before it was done.03:00
ubuntulinanyone know how to delete old kernels?03:00
hou5tonApparantly Thunderbird has built-in spam filtering ...03:00
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NickGarveyhou5ton: heh sounds good to me03:00
amphiubuntulin: apt-get remove <old_kernel_package>03:00
nickrudubuntulin, just run synaptic, and remove all the kernels you don't wnat03:00
ubuntulinnickrud: how do i find them in synaptic?03:00
amphihou5ton: yeah, the baysian filters are said to work well by friends how use tbird03:01
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spoons2 minutes!03:01
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ubuntulinnickrud: i'm not sure what to search for03:02
nickrudubuntulin, simplest way is ctl-f , and linux-image -> all your installed kernels should show up there03:03
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codecaineoh well I guess its not that important03:03
niocinokay does can anyone help me along with installing World of Warcraft?03:03
ubotuit has been said that wow is To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/WoW and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource03:03
niocinhaha that rules03:03
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steelhow do i access windows networks after i've installed samba?03:04
ubuntulinnickrud: is it okay to remove "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-18-386" it's affected by removing "linux-image-2.6.15-20-386"03:05
spoonsaaaah my systems going bonkers now!03:05
halazeaHi folks.  I was hoping someone here could tell me how to rearrange the control, win, and alt keys for my system.03:05
niocinanyone know how to make terimal opaque?03:06
hollywoodbubuntulin: what kernel are you running? (uname -a)03:06
nickrudubuntulin, you're gonna want to remove all the restricted modules that match kernels you want to remove ; -21 is the latest (why are you asking here, that's a #ubuntu+1 question :)03:06
ubuntulinhollywoodb: 2.6.15-21-38603:06
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Falstiusis there a windows manager that looks okay on a TV?  I don't want to use mythtv since there's no actual recording involved, just display.03:07
codecaineis it was faster the kernel ubuntu installs for u?03:07
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hollywoodbubuntulin: then you should only need linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-21-i386 unless you plan on downgrading kernels03:07
ubuntulinnickrud: didn't want to join +1 b/c removing kernels isn't *directly* related to dapper03:07
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ubuntulinhollywoodb: nope :)03:08
sifl_i'm starting to learn how to use php and mysql, does anyone know what apps i should install to just mess around with till i learn it full on?03:08
nickrudubuntulin, if you're running dapper, all questions belong there. Breezy is really different.03:09
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ubuntulinnickrud: okay, i'll keep it in mind -- problem solved03:09
ubuntulinnickrud: thx for your help03:09
spoonsI'm just upgrading to dapper, been running breezy for a few weeks. :)03:09
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Siviki'm upgrading to dapper too03:09
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Sivikdidn't know there was a newer one03:09
ubuntulinhollywoodb: thx, deleted all but linux-image...21..03:09
spoonsI didn't relize this channel was more for dapper.03:10
NickGarveyits not03:10
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NickGarvey!tell sifl_ about lamp03:10
hollywoodbubuntulin: double-check you have the right linux-restriced-modules by 'apt-get install linux-restricted-modules'03:10
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steeli love you03:11
steven_is there a way to run windows and ubuntu at the same time03:11
nickrudshmoochie stuff has to have another channel :)03:11
ubuntulinhollywoodb: got another package "linux-restricted-modules" gives me "couldn't find package..."03:11
nickrudsteven_, vmware03:11
sifl_thanks nick i definately got hella readin to do for a project i'm workin on....more sleepless nights03:12
NickGarveysifl_: :) thats the fun of linx03:12
ronivillab2hi everybody03:12
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steven_nickrud how do i get that03:12
spoonscan ya get vmware with apt-get03:12
ronivillab2any one can help me this ubonto03:12
ubuntulinspoons: as far as i know you have to buy vmware03:12
sifl_linux and no doze....all i need in life03:12
NickGarveyubuntulin: yes, everything cept vmplayer03:12
nickrudsteven_, http://www.vmare.com/03:12
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ubuntulinnickgarvey: what's vmplayer?03:13
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hollywoodbubuntulin: oops, linux-restricted-modules-i38603:13
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ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey03:13
nickrudvmware, vmware player, they all come from the same place03:13
NickGarveyubuntulin: http://www.vmware.com/products/player/03:13
steven_nickrud that wasn't anything03:13
steven_is there another link03:13
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NickGarveysteven_: he forgot the w, its http://www.vmware.com03:14
spoonscan you run windows in ubuntu with vmplayer?03:14
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ubuntulinhollywoodb: i think it's "linux-restricted-modules-386" sans 'i'...anyway i got 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. -- that means i'm good to go right?03:14
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nickrudNickGarvey, I swear I cut and pasted :)03:14
TehUnihow can i get 2 monitors working in ubuntu? got a nvidia 6600gt with 2 monitors plugged in, but only 1 active.03:15
codecainemplayer is the best player for linux right?03:15
NickGarveycodecaine: never use the word best ;)03:15
lvraabcodecaine, VLC03:15
j1pcodecaine, for what purposes?03:15
ubuntulinnickgarvey: interesting, i used to run ubuntu on vmware, but my computer didn't have enough ram03:16
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codecaineto watch movies like divx wmv files etc03:16
j1pcodecaine, try VLC, it works with a lot less hassle than mplayer03:16
codecaineonly down fall you can't can't strech the movies to full screen :/03:16
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hollywoodbubuntulin: yep03:16
codecainecool ok03:16
amphicodecaine: I prefer mplayer03:16
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niocinhow come i cant copy from my other hard drie03:16
nickrudspoons, there's this whole thing going on, slicing the processor between different operating systems. vmware is the granddaddy, xen is what edgy eft is supposed to have, and microsoft is claiming they'll have a working slicer. It's the most exciting thing I've heard of in the last ten years, that this is actually happening03:16
NickGarveyI like amarok03:16
ubuntulinhollywoodb: thx for your help, i'm going to restart03:17
codecaineVLC has alot of codec support?03:17
GoDawgshey ya'll..03:17
amphicodecaine: they all use the same codec libs AFAIK03:17
GoDawgswanna know how to add programs to the applications menu once their installed through synaptic03:17
_jasonGoDawgs: applications > system tools > applications menu editor03:18
j1pcodecaine, VLC supports almost all codecs out of the box, except for RealMedia i think03:18
GoDawgs_jason: ok... let me give that a shot... thanks03:18
_jasonvlc in the repos will not play wmv903:18
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GoDawgs_jason: I don't have that open... even when I go into alacarte menu editor03:19
_jasonGoDawgs: you don't have what open?03:19
GoDawgsI dont' have the applications menu editor03:20
amphi_jason: just say 'no' to evil proprietary codecs03:20
_jasonGoDawgs: what version of ubuntu are you using?03:20
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GoDawgsdidn't think this was a dapper specific question though03:20
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_jasonGoDawgs: well applications menu editor is alacarte03:21
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_jasonamphi: I would love to, just tell that to the content providers :/03:21
GoDawgs_jason: ok, then I'm confused... why aren't the programs I downloaded there?  could they be somewhere else?03:22
ubuntulinhollywoodb: good, thx03:22
_jasonGoDawgs: what program in particular?  (not all programs get a menu item, although if it is a gui program it should and you should file a bug003:22
ubuntulincan anyone explain to me what "memtest86+" is?03:22
GoDawgs_jason: it's a gmail notifier03:22
christina_i need help installing a hp web cam03:23
GoDawgs_jason: let me see what the specific name of it is03:23
GoDawgs_jason: I thought it was a panel insert though03:23
RobyXHow do I access "universe repository"03:23
_jasonGoDawgs: try 'killall gnome-panel' and then check your internet menu again03:23
_jasonubotu: tell RobyX about universe03:23
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GoDawgs_jason: ok03:23
christina_can anyone help me?03:23
spoonsI started upgrading to dapper about 30 min ago or so, should I have shut everything else off to do this? I obviously havn't, and I just thought of it realy. *Laughs*03:24
GoDawgs_jason: it's the mail watcher plugin for the Xfce4 panel03:24
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amphi_jason: _you_ tell 'em, I don't come across wmvs03:24
christina_can someone help me ?03:24
_jasonamphi: heh we must have different surphing habits ;)03:24
GoDawgs_jason: maybe that's my problem... it's for xfce4... what's xfce4?  is that another name for gnome?03:25
amphi_jason: so it would seem ;) I use w3m mostly03:25
christina_i want to install my web cam03:25
_jasonGoDawgs: no it's a different desktop environment03:25
christina_my cd for it won't run03:25
GoDawgs_jason: oh... so it's not compatible with gnome?03:25
_jasonGoDawgs: is the package, gmail-notify ?03:25
christina_is there something else i should do?03:25
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GoDawgs_jason: no... it's mail watcher plugin for the Xfce4 panel03:26
_jasonGoDawgs: ok, not sure about that then.  And I'm not familiar with xfce to tell you how to add a shortcut in the menu03:26
GoDawgs_jason: no problem... thanks for trying though...03:26
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christina_can anyone talk me through hooking up my web cam?03:27
_jasonubotu: tell christina_ about repeat03:27
_jasonubotu: tell christina_ about support03:27
amphiGoDawgs: there's always xbiff ;)03:27
GoDawgsamphi: what's xbiff?03:28
amphiGoDawgs: man xbiff03:28
GoDawgsamphi: sorry... but I don't know what you're talking about... :(03:28
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amphiGoDawgs: type man xbiff in a term03:29
GoDawgsamphi: sorry... ok... will do it now03:29
amphiGoDawgs: it might be more basic than you want03:29
GoDawgsamphi: actually, no... that's actually exactly what I want... but it says it's for X... what's X?03:30
Installer36My wireless card is Identified but for me to connect I must type sudo ifconfig eth1...is there a way around this?03:31
amphiGoDawgs: the x window system, on which your desktop is built; it'll work03:31
Installer36sudo ifconfig eth1 up03:31
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GoDawgsamphi: oh okay... thanks for the tip and education! :)03:31
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nickrudGoDawgs, the thing that writes to your screen is X, a lot of old stuff that worked under X was called x<stuff>03:31
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GoDawgsnickrud: right on... thank you!!!03:32
ubuntulnxis there a way to remove memtest86+ ?03:32
amphiGoDawgs: there's also a system monitor called gkrellm which includes a mailbox watcher03:32
nickrudGoDawgs, try apt-cache search biff , you'll see some other stuff03:32
hou5tonInstaller36:  I have found that Ubuntu will now allow two live connections at the same time .... do you have a cable plugged in too?03:32
GoDawgsamphi: nickrud:  let me try both of them... I can't believe how many great programs are written for Linux...03:33
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cpl-tnt900hi !03:33
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cpl-tnt900does any one know how can i load wireless network with dlink dwl650 +?03:33
ubuntulnxis there a way to remove memtest86+?03:33
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amphiubuntulnx: apt-get remove03:34
Installer36hou5ton...no but it says eth0 active in the networking so I deactivate it the type eth1 up03:34
ubuntulnxamphi: apt-get remove what?03:34
nickrudubuntulin, memtest86+ ?03:34
hou5tonInstaller36:  ya .. I have to do the same thing .... and then it will be fine as long as I don't change the type of connection.03:34
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cpl-tnt900ubuntulnx : do u know hot how to load wireless d-link dwl650+ to ubunto  ?03:35
Installer36hou5ton ..when I did the install I was wired with a ethernet cable03:35
ubuntulnxyep memtest86+03:35
johntrampis there a xorgconfig like prog in ubuntu to get an xorg.conf like when you finish a fresh install?03:35
cafuegocpl-tnt900: Dapper has built-in support for it (acx)03:35
cafuegocpl-tnt900: In breezy, you need ndiswrapper.03:35
cpl-tnt900can u be more specific since im new to this envirement03:35
hou5tonInstaller36:  right ... but if you plug that back in, AND have the wireless working as well, you get nothing.  Windows will let you do that ... it doesn't care ... but Ubuntu won't.03:35
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nickrudubuntulin, so, sudo apt-get remove memtest86+ (although I can't think of reason for doing that)03:36
MunchkinguyI'm having trouble setting up my printer in Dapper03:36
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cpl-tnt900cafuego talk in privet...03:36
cafuegocpl-tnt900: The next Ubuntu version supports it out of the box. The version you run now needs  window driver and an ugly hack to make it work, since d-link aren't interested in providing a Linux driver.03:36
hou5tonInstaller36:  so .... you have to tell Ubuntu which one you are using, AND ...if the other one is actually  hooked up and working, then deactivate it03:36
nickrudMunchkinguy, ask in #ubuntu+103:36
Installer36hou5ton ..I just thought there was something I could put in to a file to automatically say eth1 up when the wireless card is in03:36
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hou5tonInstaller36:  there might be .... don't know about that03:36
Installer36hou5ton...thank you03:37
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hou5tonInstaller36:  My wireless is internal and on all the time ... but in some locations if I have the cable plugged in, I don't want it to use the wireless03:38
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Installer36hou5ton...so you have to go to system,admin,networking to deactivate or can you do it threw the terminal03:39
cpl-tnt900 ndiswrapper ? i ran a search on google what exsacly should i be looking for if i wanna install a wireless lan ?03:39
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hou5tonInstaller36:  I right-click on the icon that is in the Gnome bar at the top of my screen ... and select properties03:40
Installer36thats quicker03:40
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fiendskull9halayjalughia, just finished KynixChat! anyone wanna beta test it? (tell me if this shouldnt be in here)03:42
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Installer36sorry caps03:42
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goudkovhi guys, in what package is the configure script located?03:43
Sivikwhich configure script are you referring to?03:44
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goudkovas in configure make make install03:44
hyphenatedgoudkov: it's not part of a package. most programs have their own one as part of the source code03:44
cpl-tnt900installer36 : i see wireless lan i have dhcp but i cant get it to run why !?03:45
amphigoudkov: the configure script should be in the tarball03:45
goudkovhyphenated: oh yeah, found i. thanks.03:45
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johntrampis there a way to generate a new xorg.conf?03:45
hyphenatedjohntramp: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:46
Installer36cpl-tnt900...try in a terminal ...sudo ifconfig eth1 up...03:46
ciplogicnalioth: deleting and recreate the partitions fix the name :)03:46
johntramphyphenated, thanks03:46
naliothciplogic: fix what?03:46
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the_guy1were do you find firefox safe mode03:46
ciplogicthe bad name in gnome03:46
ciplogicI used gparted to do so03:47
hondadarrellanyone know any good data cd burning apps for ubunut?03:47
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ciplogicyes: gnometoaster03:47
hyphenatedhondadarrell: I use k3b because it's pretty03:47
fiendskull9hondadarrell, gnomebaker, k3b03:47
fiendskull9i reccomend k3b03:47
ciplogicgnomebaker :P03:47
nickrudhondadarrell, Places->CD/DVD creator?03:47
N2DIYHow can I install on a labtop, that won't boot from a cdrom, and doesn't have a floppy drive?03:48
hondadarrellI use gnome. does k3b work on gnome?03:48
cpl-tnt900installer36 : i get , no such device msg03:48
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Installer36cpl-tnt900...what do you get with iwconfig03:48
ciplogichondadarell: use gnomebacker else03:48
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hyphenatedhondadarrell: yes, or you could just use gnomebaker03:48
the_guy1there should be a boot from cd in your bios03:49
ciplogichondadarell: k3b looks like Nero and gnomebaker looks as NeroExpress03:49
AnsiCi have installed binutils-static03:49
N2DIYno boot from cd option03:49
AnsiCbut i do not see binutils installed into /usr/bin03:49
the_guy1no clue03:49
cpl-tnt900i get : lo no wireless extension , same for sit0 , in wlan0 i get iee802.11b essid : linksys etc...03:49
nickrudand nautilus looks like a place you just drag & drop to. For simple data disks, it's the easiest03:50
AnsiCroot@hostname:/bin# whereis ar03:50
Installer36cpl-tnt900...was the card in at boot up03:50
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cpl-tnt900should i try reboot ?03:50
the_guy1when all else fales reboot03:50
cpl-tnt900yeah the card was on the boot but i think it false...03:50
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Installer36cpl-tnt900..with "lspci"...do you have ... Network controller: Linksys ADMtek ADM8211 802.11b Wireless Interface (rev 11)03:52
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Pupbuntuhi, i have ubuntu on my laptop.  every time i close the lid, the screensaver comes on.  that's fine.  the problem is, it demands a password before letting me back into the session, which is really redundant for me.  is there a way to turn that off?03:53
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goudkovin what package can i find zlib? configure gives me "configure: error: You must have zlib installed!"?03:54
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sethkgoudkov, configuring what?03:55
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goudkovsethk: mutella03:55
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sethkgoudkov, I think that's the devel for gzip03:55
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goudkovsethk: do you know the name of the package? i can't find which one to install03:56
goudkovgzip-dev or something like that?03:56
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Iceman_Anyone know a url where a person might get NeXTSTEP or OPENSTEP operating system ... ISO ?03:56
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sethkgoudkov, I'm not sure it's a package with that name, I think it's in one of the utility packages03:56
sethkgoudkov, not much help, sorry, but I do recognize it03:57
goudkovsethk: ok, thanks03:57
majdHi, i have a couple of mp3's that won't play03:58
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Xenguyfolks, I am trying for the first time to backup a dvd with the 'k3b' tool, and unfortunately I am getting the error 'Cannot copy encrypted DVDs'.  Is there a way around this, or do I need to find another tool besides 'k3b' ?03:58
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cpl-tnt900installer36 : i rebooted now the card is off...03:59
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Installer36lspci... Network controller: Linksys ADMtek ADM8211 802.11b Wireless Interface (rev 11)04:00
Installer36...is that present04:00
ZeroFrozeni dwlded and installed the ubuntu 5.10 IA64 (for an athlon 64) and everything freeze while i boot (it seems random, sometimes while loading modules, sometimes when it sets the rtc, and other times it boots ok) where can i look for error message, or how do i suppress the graphical boot?04:00
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sethkZeroFrozen, try booting to run level 104:00
nickrudIceman_, gnustep is already available from ubuntu, try apt-cache search gnustep04:00
sethkZeroFrozen, look in /var/log/messages04:00
intelikeyXenguy can't you dd if=/dev/your-dvd-reader of=image.file and then burn the file to disk  ?    haven't done that with dvd myself, i don't have a dvd drive.04:00
sethkdo ls -ltr /var/log, see what else was written in /var/log04:00
Installer36cpl-tnt900...lspci.... Network controller: Linksys ADMtek ADM8211 802.11b Wireless Interface (rev 11)04:01
Installer36...is my card04:01
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cpl-tnt900myn is D-link DWL650+ with WRT54G router04:01
dougiefreshgreetings, is there a security.ubuntu.org like ther eis for debian?04:01
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Xenguyintelikey: not sure, but I'll add that to my list of ideas.  I would have thought that k3b would allow this somehow (it is very nice software in general)04:02
Installer36type lspci in term04:02
ZeroFrozensethk, ok, i'm going to look04:02
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intelikeydougiefresh yes there is security repos   for system updates.04:02
dougiefreshcan you tell me what it is?04:02
cpl-tnt900ok i typed04:02
cpl-tnt900what should i look for ?04:02
intelikeyXenguy i agree.   clone copy maybe04:02
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Installer36To make sure the cards are the same.... Network controller: Linksys ADMtek ADM8211 802.11b Wireless Interface (rev 11)04:03
Xenguyintelikey: hrm, worth a try04:03
Sivikwhen i upgrade from brezzy to dapper, will it mess up my GUI04:03
cpl-tnt900nope ! he writes network controller : Texas Instrument : Unknow Device 040004:03
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majdI get this when i try to unmount windows04:03
majdumount: /media/hda1: device is busy04:03
intelikeySivik probably04:03
majdhow can i stop it?04:03
nickrudSivik, no, it'll just add some nicer stuff04:03
Siviknickrud: k04:04
nickrudintelikey, eye of the viewer :)04:04
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hyphenatedmajd: uh.. whafor? that's probably your root partition04:04
cpl-tnt900the card is PCMCIA installer46 @04:04
intelikeynickrud well most people call it "messed up" when they have to reconfigure things04:04
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N2DIYhow can I play DVDs, I removed Totem-gstreamer, installed Totem-xine and it complained about not having libdvdcss, I installed that, and it is still complaining about it?04:04
Installer36mine is a Dlink DWL650 ...so they have different chipset....you will probably need the ndiswrapper...sorry.04:04
cpl-tnt900can u explain how do i do this ?04:05
majdhyphenated, it's windows04:05
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majdsudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=022204:05
majdthis won't run04:05
majdmount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /media/windows/ busy04:05
majdmount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is mounted on /media/hda104:05
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Installer36No I bought cards till one worked..lol...Iam new to this..04:05
hyphenatedmajd: ah. cd /, then run it again04:05
intelikeymajd close everything that is accessint the mount   then umount it    man fuser04:06
nickrudmajd, sudo umount /dev/hda1 , then run that mount command again04:06
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Installer36Someone here will be able to help04:06
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ajaychi guys!!!04:06
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nickrudsorry hyphenated didn't realize you were on it04:07
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ajaycubuntu install cd wont detect my laptops cdrom any ideas?04:07
DiablituxHello!!! I don't speak in english :( my question is about an error in mysql-admin. I do clic in "user administration" and the windows it's freezed04:07
nickrudajayc, buy a new laptop /runs04:07
Diablituxhelp me please!!!04:07
nickrudDiablitux, language?04:08
DiablituxI don't add usser in mysql04:08
dougiefresh5.10 is breezy correct?04:08
cpl-tnt900does any one know how to run ndiswapper ?04:08
N2DIYajayc, my laptop won't boot from the cd, I'm trying to figure out where the install file is, no joy yet.04:08
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:08
Diablituxin dapper beta04:08
ajaycnickrud, well why dont u give me one?04:08
nickrudajayc, soon as I get mine, and the next, it's in the mail :)04:08
ajaycN2DIY, though 4.10 boots damn fine04:08
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ajaycis 4.10 good?04:09
N2DIYajayc, hmm, I have 5.10, and it is my first time playing with Ubuntu. I managed to get FC3 on the laptop.04:09
Diablituxhelp me please!!!04:09
steve_laptopDiablitux: what is it04:10
_jasonDiablitux: type this to get help in spanish: /join #ubuntu-es04:10
cpl-tnt900installer36 now he writes Network Controller: Texas Instruments ACX 100 22MBps Wireless Interface04:10
intelikeyDiablitux> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.    si  /join #edubuntu-es04:10
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DiablituxI have type in this channel, but no request :(04:10
nickrudajayc, seriously though, 4.10 (warty) install boots, but the 5.10 (breezy) doesn't?04:10
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ajaycyes nickrud04:11
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cpl-tnt900how do i activate wireless lan !?04:11
Installer36cpl-tnt900 ...if you get no wireless with the command..iwconfig...it is beyond me04:11
steve_laptopDiablitux: /join #xxxxx  will work04:11
nickrudajayc, are you sure you have a good iso? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IsoVerifyHowto will walk you through that04:11
cpl-tnt900ok no wireless in what !?04:12
cpl-tnt900in wlan !?04:12
majdTotem returns this error: This is an audio-only file, and there is no audio output available.04:12
majdwhere's the problem?04:12
cpl-tnt900he writes The interface wlan0 is active : WIRELESS CONNECTION04:12
dagercpl-tnt900: does running "iwconfig" show any detected wirelessness?04:12
cpl-tnt900its just i cant get it to surf04:12
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intelikeymajd totem not configured to use  esd ?04:12
N2DIYwhat version of totem, gstreamer? Totem-xine is recommended.04:13
cpl-tnt900lo shows no wireless and sir0 shows no wireless but lan0 shows wireless04:13
ubotuI heard vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)04:13
majdintelikey, what's esd?04:13
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toMte83ais it possible to c how much one process takes in cpu  (%) Like in windows Xp when u hit ctrl+alt+del ??? would be intresting04:13
cpl-tnt900installer 36 :lo shows no wireless and sir0 shows no wireless but lan0 shows wireless04:13
dagercpl-tnt900: make sure you set up dhcp on lan0 if it's required, and all relevant passkeys, then ifconfig your wireless connection up04:14
nickrudTom39Away, top in a terminal04:14
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cpl-tnt900dager : got no relevet passkey all open on the router...04:14
dagercpl-tnt900: do "ifconfig lan0 up"04:14
cpl-tnt900dhcp is on auto ... should i manual it ?04:14
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dagercpl-tnt900: see if that works.. if not, do "dhcpcd lan0" or whatever the command is04:15
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N2DIYHow can I manually start the install off of the CD?04:15
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cpl-tnt900nope not working04:16
cpl-tnt900and im new i dunno the commands i try going to system >> NETWORKING and set it there ?04:16
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majdis there a way to change the options of my hda1 mount so that i can copy files from it to my desktop? hda1 is my windows mount04:16
dagercpl-tnt900: go for it, normally dhcp is the extent of my problems, but i'd imagine an interface is suitable for solving such problems04:17
intelikeymajd sure.04:17
ubotumethinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions04:17
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ajay_so what to do?04:17
cpl-tnt900dager : so what should i do ? it recognize the wireless network i pressed activate and its activated...04:17
dagercpl-tnt900: try and get online with it, i guess04:18
N2DIYajay, where you ajayc?04:18
cpl-tnt900got online and nothing ...04:18
intelikeymajd basicly mount it fmask=2 umask=2  iirc04:18
ajay_N2DIY, s04:18
majdintelikey, so "/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,fmask=2 umask=2        0       0"04:19
toMte83ahmm ... try again...  anyone who know if its possible to c the CPU % for all running processes anywhere?04:19
majdin my fstab file?04:19
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intelikeycomma not space between but yeah majd04:20
majdtoMte83a, top04:20
csixty4toMte83a: top, then shift-P to sort by % CPU04:20
N2DIYtoMte83a, run top in a terminal.04:20
ajay_N2DIY, what do i do?04:20
majdintelikey, would i need to restart the computer?04:20
intelikeyxtop ?04:20
ajay_upgrade from 4.10?04:21
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intelikeymajd no.  just umount and mount the drive.04:21
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twystedis there a good FAQ on setting up a mailserver on ubuntu04:21
intelikeythis is not micro-reboot_windows....04:21
N2DIYajay_, we need to find the file that starts the install, I've looked and can't find it, thought someone here would know?04:21
majdintelikey, but see, the problem is i can't unmount windows.....it says it's busy04:21
majdi tried what you suggested earlier04:22
toMte83amajd csixty4 N2DIY : Cool, thanks... =)04:22
ajay_N2DIY, nobody here know that?04:22
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twystedmajd type cd / and try unmounting it if ANYTHING is using ANYTHING on that drive itll show as busy, even if its just a open window04:22
intelikeymajd like i said use  fuser and find what is accessing it, kill it.  then umount.   man fuser04:22
ZeroFrozenmajd, try "lsof | grep /media/windows" to see what's making it busy04:22
N2DIYajay_, which file on the CD will start the install.04:22
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ajay_N2DIY, dunno04:22
Installer36cpl-tnt900 what do you mean got online and nothing04:23
ajay_N2DIY, its not workin on ur lappy too04:23
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majdi'll try04:24
N2DIYajay_, roger my bios won't boot from the CD.04:24
intelikeyN2DIY the init[rd,ramfs] .img  in  the dir with the kernel that it boots04:24
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N2DIYintelikey, any idea what dir. that's in?04:25
ajay_well N2DIY in my case it boots from cd and after selecting language it says cdrom not found select manually04:25
intelikeyboot maybe ?04:25
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intelikeyi'll look    give me a sec N2DIY04:25
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warysnaydominicans here?04:26
N2DIYintelikey, standing buy.04:26
ajay_N2DIY, atleast tell me how do u upgrade 4.10?04:26
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cpl-tnt900gn all try again tommorow ..04:26
ubotu_jason: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:27
swandoes anyone how to fix this apt-get error:        The following has unmet dependencies:  lib32gcc1: depends: gcc-4.0-base (=4.0.3-1ubuntu4) but have 4.0.3-1ubuntu5??04:27
ajay_well what size it is?04:27
GigaCloni think im missing man pages04:27
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _jason04:27
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N2DIYajay_, I didn't it is a FC3 box, I had to run rawwrite and a bunch of other stuff to get it installed, took me three days.04:27
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intelikeyN2DIY look in isolinux/isolinux.cfg    &   install/initrd.img04:28
ubotuhoary is, like, a word that means grey or ancient.  Shakespeare made a joke about it in his play Romeo and Juliet04:28
ajay__jason, what is the upgrade size?04:28
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_jasonajay_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes04:28
intelikeyerrr  not .img  .gz04:28
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N2DIYintelikey, will do, thanks, copy that ajay_?04:28
jmgubotu: he did?04:28
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jmg04:28
jmg_jason: dont you mean upgrade2breezy? thats the latest stable...04:28
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GigaClonubotu is a bot04:28
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, GigaClon04:28
_jasonjmg: well he has 4.10 now so he has to upgrade to hary first04:29
CSMani'm trying to mount a samba share that has filenames in korean04:29
CSManno luck so far04:29
jmg4.10 eek04:29
GigaClonim missing the man page to mount04:29
intelikeyback in a few.04:29
jmgwhat release was 4.10?04:29
twysted_jason you should be able to upgrade straight to breezy04:29
jmgtwysted: no04:29
blindGigaClon, "man mount" doesn't do anything for you?04:29
_jasonjmg: warty warthog04:29
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twystedive done it before =S04:30
jmgtwysted: upgrades are only supported to the next release04:30
GigaClonmount --help say to do man 8 mount04:30
_jasontwysted: yes, it's safer though04:30
jmgtwysted: it might work but not safe as jason says04:30
swandoes anyone how to fix this apt-get error:        The following has unmet dependencies:  lib32gcc1: depends: gcc-4.0-base (=4.0.3-1ubuntu4) but have 4.0.3-1ubuntu5??04:30
ajay_well i gotta do that cos the damn 5.10 install cd says it cant find the cdrom04:30
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_jasonswan: are you on dapper?04:30
GigaClonblind, that doesn't work04:30
swan_jason: yeah04:30
jmg_jason: simply change from warty to hoary in sources.list, then:04:30
_jasonswan: please use #ubuntu+1 for dapper questions04:30
blindwhat doesn't work, GigaClon ? "man mount" gives me the manual page...04:31
jmg_jason: apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade04:31
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GigaClonand when I follow the undocumented directions it can't find that either04:31
GigaClonblind, man mount04:31
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Sivikanyone here use the bcm43xx wireless drivers?04:31
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ajay_well please help me guys i want to sort this damn thing out today itself04:31
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cafuegoSivik: lots of people do. just ask your question.04:32
_jasonajay_: what are you trying to do?04:32
Sivikdo the firmware that comes with dipper work?04:32
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blindlol GigaClon I just did a man mount > mount ... so i have it in a text file if you'd like me to give it to you :P04:32
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GigaClonwell you know how i can fix it04:32
blindI don't.04:32
ajay__jason, well see i am not on ubuntu , 5.10 cd wont recognize my cdrom and i can install 4.1004:32
cafuegoSivik: Yes04:32
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cafuegoSivik: Well, no firmware comes with dapper, but the one referenced on the wiki works.04:33
_jasonajay_: have you tried a different cd? verified the cd works on another computer?04:33
bintuthello all...04:33
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csixty4_Sivik: What wireless card are you using?04:33
Sivikbcm4318 AirForce ver 0204:34
ajay_yes _jason04:34
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bintuti'm using a laptop here right now.. was it the cpufreqd that automatically set my cpu half of its mhz when unused?04:34
GigaClonajay_, you can try an upgrade from warty to brezzy but its not recommened04:34
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GigaClonajay_, just replace hoary with breezy in those directions04:34
_jasonajay_: weird, just do warty > hoary upgrade and then hoary > breezy by following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes and then http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade.04:34
ajay_well what do i do then04:34
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domswere i can find my install package repo04:35
csixty4_Sivik: according to the bcm43xx-dev mailing list, 4318 support is broken (https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/bcm43xx-dev/2006-March/001555.html)04:35
domslike a cache04:35
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domswere is the exact directory of that04:35
CoirUpon booting, Ubuntu shows the following: (\ = line break) dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN\ /XFDISC1.I00\ File Size is 0 bytes, cluster chain length is04:36
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csixty4_I was up all night trying to get my 4311 working, and ran across that message04:36
cafuegoSivik: Yes, I've only tested on bcm4306 hardware, can't help you with anything else.04:36
Siviki understand thats its broken, but i have it working in redhat but was wondering if the firmware is already install, if it worked04:36
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GigaCloncan anyone help me with my missing man pages04:36
GigaClonI don't seem to have any at all04:36
CoirUpon booting, Ubuntu shows the following: (\ = line break) dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN\ /XFDISC1.I00\ File Size is 0 bytes, cluster chain length is Upon booting, Dapper shows the following: (\ = line break) dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN\ /XFDISC1.I00\ File Size is 0 bytes, cluster chain length is Upon booting, Dapper shows the following: (\ = line break) dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN\ /XFDISC1.I00\ File Size is 0 byt04:36
Coires, cluster chain length is Upon booting, Dapper shows the following: (\ = line break) dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN\ /XFDISC1.I00\ File Size is 0 bytes, cluster chain length is Upon booting, Dapper shows the following: (\ = line break) dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN\ /XFDISC1.I00\ File Size is 0 bytes, cluster chain length is Upon booting, Dapper shows the following: (\ = line break) dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN\ /XFD04:36
CoirISC1.I00\ File Size is 0 bytes, cluster chain length is04:36
ubotuPlease don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL04:36
Coirmy apologies for that.04:36
nickrudGigaClon, man man shows nothing?04:37
GigaClonNo manual entry for man04:37
GigaClonSee 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not available.04:38
GigaClonthat doesn't exist either04:38
_nano_anyone with a radeon7500 graphics card here?04:38
domswere i can locate my package cache in my file directory04:38
CoirCan someone help me with this error I am encountering upon boot of Ubuntu? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1291004:38
domswere i can locate my package cache in my file directory04:38
Sivikcsixty: i understand that its broken, but i was wondering if i really needed to reinstall the firmware if its already installed in dapper04:38
domswere i can locate my package cache in my file directory04:38
nickrudis manpages installed? that is, dpkg -l manpages shows ii04:38
ajay_HELP MEE04:39
nickruddoms, /var/cache/apt/archives04:39
GigaClonwhat ajay_ ?04:39
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Sivikwhat is the issue there ajay?04:39
_jasonajay_: what is the problem?04:39
ajay_the issue is i cant get UBUNTU working on my acer laptop04:39
Sivikwhat part of it can't you get working?04:39
_jasonajay_: is this different than your upgrading issue?04:39
Sivikis it a xorg issues?04:40
twystedis there a good FAQ on setting up a mailserver on ubuntu ? anyone?04:40
intelikeyGigaClon mandb ?04:40
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codecaineim try to code in c++ but it says no such file as stdio.h04:40
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ubotuIf you want to build software, you need the build-essential package to start with04:40
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intelikeycodecaine !b-e04:41
_jasoncodecaine: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'04:41
nickrudtwysted, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postifx04:41
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GigaClonintelikey, mandb does not show up in Synaptic04:41
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Milk_anyone here have experiance with joysticks in cedega.. no one is answering over there04:42
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_nano_Hi..my installation doesn't seem to have 3d support ...my xorg.conf : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12911 .. please help me out here :(04:42
CoirHow is aptitude install dif. from apt-get install? Does it pop-up a gui or something?04:42
_nano_my tuxcart doesn't move :|04:42
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Sivikwhat video card nano04:43
_nano_radeon 750004:43
_nano_i searched my wits out on google...04:43
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_nano_all they say is that ati has no support for cards below radeo 9000 :|04:43
nickrudCoir, aptitude keeps track of packages that were installed in support of packages you requested; if the package you requested is removed, aptitude will remove the support packages. apt-get will not.04:43
_jasonCoir: aptitude will remember what dependencies got install along with a package04:43
Sivikcan't hep you nano, i still having problems getting my ati to work04:43
RobyXMy friend wants to know why LInux is better then MS, is there like a list of reasons somewhere?04:43
_nano_Sivik, what's your FPS?04:43
codecaineim using anjuta ide is there any others recommended?04:43
_nano_Sivik, what kinda card do you have?04:44
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Sivikradeon xpress 200 m04:44
_jasonRobyX: for some MS may be better, it depends on the individual04:44
Siviki can't even get it to work with the ati drivers in it04:44
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_nano_Sivik, and FPS? could you play tuxcart? :P04:44
nickrudRobyX, there are all sorts of comparisons on the net, some show better one way or another, depending on need. But, by definition, free is better :)04:44
CoirCan someone help me with this error I am encountering upon boot of Ubuntu? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1291004:45
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Sivikno, my GUI doesn't work with the ati stuff in it04:45
ubotuit has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:45
_nano_Sivik, that's sad :|04:45
nickrudCoir, how are you booting ubuntu, I've never seen a dosfsck04:46
CoirI was using GRUB04:46
Siviki installed via the flglx install04:46
Sivikapt-get flglx or whatever it is04:46
CoirBut, I had my /home setup on a different drive from my /04:46
CoirSo do you think that might make it a bit weird?04:46
_nano_Sivik, yeah from what i gathered flglx doesn't support my card atleast04:46
nickrudCoir, did you try installing ubuntu onto a fat32?04:46
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nickrudor your home on a fat32?04:46
Sivikwhich radeon is it04:46
Coirext3 =P04:46
_nano_Sivik, radeon 750004:47
Sivikits too old04:47
nickrudCoir, so, that can't be the whole error :)04:47
Sivikyou have to have the 9200 first04:47
CoirI have a fat32 partition..04:47
Coirbut it's just mounted as media04:47
_nano_Sivik, I know :( ...it's a laptop...replacing graphics card is a pain :|04:47
Siviknot really04:47
Siviki replaced a one in  dell 7600 yesterday04:47
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GigaClonintelikey, i can't find "mandb" in the d-pkg list or synaptic04:47
_nano_Sivik, in case i go for replacement...which one would you recommend?04:47
nothow can you alter resolution if a friend of yours skipped the instellation step involving which resolutions you can have?04:48
Sivikgo nvidia if you can04:48
_jasonGigaClon: man-db04:48
intelikeyCoir your fstab specify that vfat partition  to be checked at boot ?    also of note.   the file XFDISC1.I00 should probably be rm'd04:48
_nano_Sivik, thanks for the info...i'll see if I can afford a replacement04:48
Coirintelikey, well, the system wouldn't boot...04:48
GigaClonits installed, reinstalling....04:49
SimplyFlowercan somebody please help me... how do i get ubuntu to recognize my ethernet connection?04:49
intelikeyGigaClon which release are you using ?  dapper ?04:49
sybaritenanyone here running lighttpd ?04:49
intelikey!info mandb breezy04:49
GigaClonno dice04:50
_jason!info man-db04:50
ubotuman-db: (The on-line manual pager), section doc, is standard. Version: 2.4.3-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 579 kB, Installed size: 1628 kB04:50
nickrudGigaClon, you probably have problems in your /etc/apt/sources.list if man-db isn't shown in dpkg -l04:50
GigaClonits there04:50
intelikeyGigaClon there ya go  ^04:50
GigaClonand installed04:50
GigaClonbut it still doesn't work04:50
_jasonGigaClon: ls /usr/share/man/man1/man.1.gz04:50
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sybaritensomeone on the forum has written a howto on installing lighttpd. He says it more or less "needs" dapper. I have that other install, that came before. Are there any chances for me ?04:51
GigaClon_jason,  its there04:51
sybaritenif i do apt-cache search lighthttpd i get nil04:51
_jasonGigaClon: and man man says it can't find the file?04:51
GigaClonbut man man is not working04:51
nickrudls /usr/bin/man?04:52
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GigaClonwhen i type cd /usr/bin/man04:52
GigaClonit don't exist04:52
eggzeckwtf, my monitor just went "poff (off)" then "poof on"! And the color is getting messed up04:52
rob138is there anyway to get to my computer that is on my schools network that is not pingable from the internet?04:52
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_jasonGigaClon: it's a file, don't cd it04:52
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nickrudGigaClon, man is a file, you can't cd to it. but ls /usr/bin/man should give you something04:53
N2DIYintelikey, there is no /install/initrd.img on the cd, and /isolinux/isolinux.cfg just display the file contents.04:53
_jasonGigaClon: while you are there, get the output for 'manpath' too04:53
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nickrudman is so basic, I think I've forgotten nearly all of it04:53
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GigaClonit pointing in my home dir04:53
_jasonGigaClon: what is?04:54
GigaClonmanpath: warning: $MANPATH set, ignoring /etc/manpath.config04:54
nickrudGigaByte_, whoa, there you are04:54
sybaritencan i somehow check how big an apache install witll be, with apt ?04:54
_jasonGigaClon: clear MANPATH I guess04:54
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nickrudGigaClon, echo $MANPATH04:55
rukuarticHehe... curious thing just happened. X crashed, but restarted on tty8 instead of tty704:55
rukuarticAnd now tty7 is just a black box with a cursor, not even a bash prompt. Anyone have ideas?04:55
nickrudhm, what's a good find for MANPATH04:55
rukuarticnickrud: whereis?04:56
_jasonnickrud: can't we just do export MANPATH=     ?04:56
nickrudrukuartic, but why was GigaClon 's different from the default?04:56
_jasonGigaClon: if you start a new shell does man still not work?04:56
rukuarticI dunno, I dun like him. He's got shifty eyes. Oh wait I mean, no clue nickrud04:56
nickrudrukuartic, heh. Been here, done this :)04:57
rukuarticnickrud: man man? maybe?04:57
rukuarticnickrud: Or can you not access that... lol...04:57
nickrudrukuartic, been there, done that :)04:57
rob138is there anyway to get to my computer that is on my schools network that is not pingable from the internet?04:57
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N2DIYrob138, ssh.04:58
_jasonGigaClon: what kind of stuff were you doing before this happened?04:58
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nickrudI've gone five years without learning find, I'm hoping someone will come up with a find/grep that locates all MANPATH defs04:58
GigaClonI have never been able to get man pages04:58
GigaClonthat I can recall04:58
intelikey!info mtr-tiny04:58
ubotumtr-tiny: (Full screen ncurses traceroute tool), section net, is standard. Version: 0.69-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 32 kB, Installed size: 100 kB04:58
rukuarticrob138: Yeah, I use ssh too. Great thing. :D "sudo apt-get install openssh-client open-sshserver"04:58
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rukuarticAnyone have any clues about my previous mentioned problem?04:59
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_jasonGigaClon: well we have to figure out what is setting MANPATH... I would start grepping files :)04:59
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nickrudrukuartic, /etc/init.d/gdm restart ?05:00
_jasonGigaClon: grep MANPATH ~/.*, might be worth a try05:00
rukuarticnickrud: Well thats the odd thing... Xorg runs on f8 but not f7 now.05:00
rob138rukartic, N2DIY, thats what i use, i think its awesome, but everytime connection times out05:00
chip42my harddrive goes into sleep mode far too often. how do you set how many ms before it spins down? seems like it is always spinning up every few seconds :\05:00
rukuarticnickrud: f7 is just a blank screen. tried "startx" etc, its just a big box to type stuff and hit enter05:00
GigaClongrep: /home/gigaclon/.gnome-system-monitor.gigaclon: No such device or address05:00
rob138like my computer isn't visable05:00
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GigaClonthats what I got05:01
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intelikey            debfoster  is kewl   :)05:01
rukuarticrob138: What types of connections are you on?05:01
nickrudrukuartic, the only reason X would start on 8 (that I know of) is X is already active on 7, and you've started another instance05:01
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rob138the computer i am trying to connect to is on a dorm lan, and it's ip adress btw is to see if you can ping/connect to it05:01
juztinwhen i upgrade to dapper, will i lose my current setup and have to start all over again (my menus, desktop, home dir, etc)?05:01
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N2DIYrob138, sounds like the server ip address changed on you?05:01
_jasonGigaClon: see if it happens with a new user05:02
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SimplyFlowerplease help... can't connect to the internet with ubuntu05:02
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NickGarveywould cd .. be going up a directory or going down a directory?05:02
rob138N2DIY, that is my IP adress for sure05:02
Dr_Willisbash 101 :P05:02
rukuarticnickrud: Heh... it actually didn't. Its weird.05:02
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NickGarveythank you05:03
juztindoes anyone know if, when i upgrade to dapper, i will lose my current setup and have to start all over again (my menus, desktop, home dir, etc)?05:03
rukuarticrob138: So you're connecting on an intranet?05:03
Dr_Willisthe idea of going 'down' implies you are changing to a given dir.. not the generic 'parent'05:03
rukuarticrob138: Or an internet?05:03
NickGarveythats what I thought but someone said something that didn't make sense ;)05:03
N2DIYSimplyFlower, what are you trying to connect with, evolution? Find the work online icon, and click that.05:03
_jasonjuztin: should keep them05:03
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juztincuz i just spent two hours writing my fluxbox menu :P05:03
Dr_Willisjuztin,  i often keep  home on a seperate partition. to make it easier.05:03
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SimplyFlowerunbuntu doesn't recognize my ethernet connection at all05:03
Dr_Willisjuztin,  backup the files :)05:03
juztinok :)05:03
nickrudrukuartic, I'd really look into seeing if there's an active X you're missing05:04
sybariteni have a server version of ubuntu, the breezy i think ..... is it possible to "upgrade" it to dapper ? is it a big project ?05:04
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juztinthx Dr_Willis, _jason05:04
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intelikeynickrud  <nickrud> rukuartic, the only reason X would start on 8 (that I know of) is X is already active on 7, and you've started another instance <--- actually  x starts on the first avalable tty  thus if you only have one login tty setup and haven't opened any other ttys startx will start on tty2   conversly wise   if you had 30 ttys open and did startx it would start on tty3105:04
N2DIYSimplyFlower, a that is a hardware issue, I'm on dialup, so I can't help you.05:04
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rob138rukuartic, i believe intranet (it's a school building's LAN, through ethernet, if that helps)05:04
godhow can i install tinyx05:05
Centaur5I get an ip from my router and I can ping it but I can't ping other computers or browse the net. In network-admin it won't save the default gateway.  How can I fix this?05:05
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nickrudintelikey, ah, point to you. I'm brainwashed :)05:05
rukuarticrob138: Yep, you're right. So you get a connection, but it keeps dropping? What port are you using?05:05
biovoregod: your god.. figure it out :-P (know clue here)05:05
Dr_Willis!info tinyx05:05
Deterministany of you guys know of anything similar to yakuake for gnome? i really like this app and i would want to use it on gnome05:05
SimplyFlowerN2DIY: thanks anyway05:05
godi wish05:05
biovoreI don't think its a package in ubuntu.. would have to build from source05:05
nickrudgod, you never changed your nick?05:06
Dr_Willisgod,  if its not in the repos.. i guess ya sould to to the programs homepage.. and start reading.05:06
rob138rukuartic, i cannot get a connection is my problem, i cannot ssh unless i am connected on the same LAN05:06
rukuarticrob138: Yeah. Its going to be difficult to telnet to your computer from anywhere else but from inside the intranet. Have you successfully connected from outside before?05:06
N2DIYrob138, that makes sense, sound like you can't get through the firewall.05:07
goddont make me zap you with 10000000000000000volts the site dosent seem to have a howto05:07
intelikey<nickrud> intelikey, ah, point to you. I'm brainwashed :)  <--- hehhe  a clean mind is a good thing  :)05:07
rukuarticrob138: In order to connect to your computer, you'd need the root router (the one that distributes internet to the campus) to directly redirect all SSH connections to your computer05:07
nickrudintelikey, that's a fault I cannot claim, a clean mind05:07
Dr_Willishow unfortunate.05:07
nickrudthe longer you live, the crustier the ring05:08
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rob138rukuartic, N2DIY, so it's probably impossible for me to?05:08
ramza3anybody know why they changed xchat, this gnome-xchat sucks05:08
GigaClon_jason, a new user can access man man05:08
nickrudramza3, you can get xchat back, it's in universe05:08
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_jasonGigaClon: ok, that narrow down your search to your home directory05:09
stone61hi all05:09
rukuarticrob138: Not quite sure. Try contacting your sysadmin, see if he has any solutions. Or try a few different ports.05:09
nickrudramza3, but that's a #dapper+1 question05:09
ramza3nickrud: you remember the name?05:09
rukuartichi stone6105:09
stone61i cannot login as admin05:09
N2DIYrob138, not impossible, but I don't know how to crack a firewall.05:09
nickrudramza3, xchat :)05:09
rukuarticstone61: You mean "root"?05:09
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stone61sorry wrong chat05:09
_jasonGigaClon: grep MANPATH .[^g] *05:09
rob138rukuartic, but that IP adress is not even pingable from outside the network, so using a different port wouldnt work right?05:09
stone61its kjoomla i cannot log in05:09
ramza3nickrud, I am getting rid of this garbage05:09
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stone61thx bye05:09
_jasonGigaClon: make sure you use caps05:09
stone61i stay05:09
stone61and listen and learn05:10
_jasonGigaClon: should have said: grep MANPATH ~/.[^g] *05:10
chip42rob138: the machine could be there and ignoring the pings. using a different port might work, provided the machine is actually there05:10
nickrudramza3, I tripped over that one so bad, I bitched before I fixed my sources. I felt stupid :)05:10
vaaXhow do you register a name on irc?05:10
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rukuarticrob138: No, they have the router set to be not pingable to prevent from attacks. I can't ping my own router, but I can still connect to it. Thing is, I say "forward all port 22" (thats ssh) "to" (thats my computer)05:10
godhow do you install tinyx05:10
ramza3nickrud, hehe; there are a lot of little changes with dapper that are getting to me05:10
N2DIYrob138, the system is probably set up to ignore pings, to prevent denial of service attacks.05:10
GigaClongrep: /home/gigaclon/.sound-juicer.gigaclon: No such device or address05:10
GigaClon _jason05:10
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rukuarticrob138: When the head router at the campus (connected directly to the internet) gets a packet saying "I want to connect to ssh!" the router says "OK! Where do I send it? There's a million computers on campus."05:11
rob138chip42, rukuartic, on the sshd.config file of the computer i am trying to connect to i have added port 2222 to and cannot ssh to that either05:11
nickrudramza3, change is good for the soul, it's bad to get too crusty05:11
ramza3nickrud: we shall see05:11
rukuarticrob138: So you'd need to ask the system administrator to forward one port to your computer. depending on the size of the campus, that may or may not be too hard.05:11
rukuarticrob138: Or possibly he may have a solution for you :P05:11
_jasonGigaClon: heh maybe we should jsut jump straight to find: grep MANPATH ~/.[^sg] *05:11
nickrudramza3, when I get too frustrated, I consider going back to unstable. Then, I consider the upside of sticking, and have.05:11
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SimplyFlowerwhere can i get help a hardware problem?05:12
ramza3nickrud, small quetion, you seem smart; you know how I can get the default terminal to do an automatic copy-paste when I select something05:12
GigaClon/home/gigaclon/.bash_history:grep MANPATH ~/.*05:12
GigaClon _jason05:12
N2DIYSimplyFlower, here, we need to know what the hardware is!05:12
_jasonGigaClon: nothing?05:12
godhow do you install tinyx05:13
sethkN2DIY, it's that stuff with all the wires connected to it05:13
nickrudramza3, select, then middle-button click where you want to paste? works mostly, except where gnome resists05:13
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SimplyFlowerD-Link Ethernet05:13
ramza3nickrud, thanks05:13
sethkSimplyFlower, a bit more detail might help05:13
N2DIYSimplyFlower, model number?05:13
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ramza3uburamza3: hello05:13
sethkSimplyFlower, d-link makes many different cards and products05:13
rob138rukuartic, thanks, don't know if the admin will be helpful, they are assholes here05:13
N2DIYSimplyFlower, that's why a model number helps!05:13
SimplyFlowerD_Link DFE-500TXPCI Fast Ethernet05:14
sybaritenis this information up to date? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP05:14
sybaritenif so, why does the introduction say that mySQL can only be installed by compiling ?05:14
_jasonGigaClon: find ~ -type f -exec grep MANPATH '{}' \;               I think that will work, maybe someone can check me on that?05:14
SimplyFlowerDECchip 21142/4305:14
chip42rob138: probably right about that. if there is access across port 80 or some other standard service, you might be able to setup a tunnel over and achieve the connection you are after.. talking about not letting the admins in on it05:14
sybaritenand why do they install first php4 and then php5 ?05:14
sybaritensame for mySQL? (first 4 then 5)05:15
rukuarticrob138: =\05:15
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rukuarticsybariten: If you want a quick server up and running in 5 minutes, use XAMPP05:15
kkathmanxampp rocks05:16
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sybaritenrukuartic: yeah i know05:16
rukuarticsybariten: Comes with Apache, MySQL, PHP, Python, and a whole buncha other stuff05:16
rukuarticsybariten: Or just use apachetoolbox05:16
N2DIYsethk, I don't understand your question? You mean microphones and antennas? Yes.05:16
rob138chip42, how could i setup a tunnel?05:16
martyndahi, has anyone gotten HP calculators to connect to ubuntu and transfer files?05:16
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rukuartic_jason: running05:16
sybaritenrukuartic: but considering how far apt and easy *nix distros like Ubuntu has come, i figiured it would be pretty easy to set up the most common style of apache05:17
sybaritenbut the guide is a bit confusing05:17
sethkN2DIY, I was just trying to be amusing.  :)05:17
chip42rob138: google for "ssh tunnel"... i believe there is even a howto using only putty05:17
rukuarticsybariten: Heh I had trouble too05:17
sethkN2DIY, not terribly successfully it appears05:17
rukuarticchip42: He's in a university network...05:17
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chip42rukuartic: oh. starting to seem clearer to me :05:17
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N2DIYsethk, I turned my head for a second, and with all the traffic here, almost missed your message, where you referring to ham radio?05:18
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chip42rukuartic: but he is trying to establish a connection from withinthe university network to the outside, no? ssh tunnel would accomplish that05:18
rukuarticchip42: Other way around. From outside to inside network.05:18
sethkN2DIY, I don't even remember by now  :)05:18
nickrud_jason, I wish i could check your find statement :)05:19
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N2DIYsethk, OOKKAAYY!05:19
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chip42rukuartic: not really a difference. he will required access to both machines. ssh tunnel still does the job05:19
Vaske_Carseen dabar05:19
rukuarticchip42: Thing is, how do you tunnel inside? You still have to have port forwarding to your box05:19
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Vaske_Carman my server with ubuntu laster 75days and i had to restart it because of server upgrade, amazing!!05:20
rukuarticVaske_Car: Wow you didn't lose power for that long?05:20
GigaClon_jason, I think autopackage is the culprit05:21
ubotusomebody said autopackage was evil05:21
N2DIYSimplyFlower, you may want to ask your question again, with the make, model and chip info?05:21
_jasonGigaClon: heh there you go05:21
nickrudhm, I wonder who someone was05:21
Vaske_Cari just host samba, teamspeak and few other stuff05:21
CoirCan someone help me with this error I am encountering upon boot of Ubuntu? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12910 . I am not booting off FAT32 or anything...05:21
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_jasonubotu: botsnack05:21
GigaCloninkscape uses autopackage05:21
rukuartic_jason: ?05:22
chip42rukuartic: don't think so. i think the tunnel would have to be created from inside since the internal machine most likely gets all its access from a proxy.. tunnel would operate over the proxy05:22
_jasonrukuartic: what's up?05:22
Vaske_Caranybody here familiar with dedicated servers?05:22
nickrudGigaClon, Inkskape is in the repos ..05:22
rukuartic_jason: botsnack?05:22
_jasonrukuartic: yeah, he was a good bot so he got a snack05:22
rukuarticchip42: Still not following you.05:22
rukuartic_jason: haha05:22
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rukuartic_jason: so we're teaching emotion to a robot?05:22
nickrudI'm gonna see who taught ubotu that one05:22
GigaClonit was before inkscape was05:23
nickrudheh. Sev eas did :)05:23
chip42rukuartic: i guess you are right. the connection is in reverse order..  what i am saying is no port forwarding would be required if the connection originates from the internal network.. the internal box doesn't have to listen around for connections.05:23
GigaClonso how do i get rid of autopackage05:23
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JKnifedo yall harbor trolls?05:23
Vaske_Caris there any channel with people who host servers, resale itd..?05:24
SimplyFlowersethk, the only info i have about my D-Link Ethernet is from the the listing of devices.  its says:  D-Link DFE-500TX PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter(RevD) DECchip 21142/43.  ubuntu doesn't recognize for a connection to the internet.  What can I do?05:24
nickrudGigaClon, no Idea. But the autopackage home page should have instructions for using autopackage to remove it's own packages05:24
sethkSimplyFlower, the DFE-500TX is an important piece of information05:24
rukuarticchip42: Yeah, thats a granted. :p05:24
toMte83ahmm.. feels impossible to learn all about the terminal, i mean, what way is a smart place to start? New ubunta user and it feels like most of the things should be done thrue the Terminal... =/05:24
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PORDOhow do i stop a window from popping up when a usb device is mounted?05:24
rukuartictoMte83a: :O You are my hero!05:24
sethkSimplyFlower, when you do ifconfig -a, is the adapter listed?  Is it listed with ifconfig (without -a)?05:25
nickrudCoir, there's gotta be some more errors around there, maybe some context will help05:25
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toMte83arukuartic ? lol why?05:25
rukuartictoMte83a: Well the terminal is bash based. Type in "whatis bash"05:25
nickrudCoir, or at least some messages05:25
N2DIYDon't mount it! :)05:25
rukuartictoMte83a: Because everyone's like "Whee gui! Pretty colors"05:25
rukuartictoMte83a: First thing that I would reccommend you doing, is reading up on bash tutorials. And then? Ctrl+alt+f1 brings you to a bash only environment. ctrl+alt+f7 should bring you back.05:26
SimplyFlowerdon't know.  i'll check... give me a minute... have to go to the computer its on05:26
Coirlet me see05:26
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_jasontoMte83a: do you /want/ to do it or do you feel it is the only way to do thing?05:26
toMte83arukuartic : lol ... well, yeah, it is pretty colors but i dont go from win to Ubunta just becouse of the colors05:26
rukuartictoMte83a: And then just learn to use the big cli programs like "irssi" and "vi" and stuff like that... "apt-get" and "grep"05:26
N2DIYWhat's Ubunta?05:26
rukuarticXD How people from New Jersy say Ubuntu05:26
toMte83a_jason: i feel like i really wanna learn all about the terminal there is to know05:27
chip42rukuartic: i guess i don't understand the difficulty then.. unless the whole point is to initiate the connection from the outside.05:27
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N2DIYI'm from New Jermany, but I don't say it that way!05:27
toMte83arukuartic : never heard of any of those programs05:27
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_jasontoMte83a: that's cool, I'm going to send you some basic tutorials to get you started and then I recommend you read the bash scripting tutorial on tldp.org to get into more advanced stuff05:27
_jasonubotu: tell toMte83a about cli05:27
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toMte83athanks _jason05:28
_jasonubotu: tell toMte83a about rute05:28
_jasontoMte83a: rute is a good guide to but it goes into much more than just terminal05:28
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Coirnickrud, I am not seeing any other error messages05:29
N2DIY_jason, the rute manual is good stuff, I wish I had found that years ago.05:29
rukuartictoMte83a: Vi - Like "gedit"; irssi - IRC, apt-get - install stuff; grep - search05:29
SimplyFloweri'm back.   no to both questions, sethk05:29
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Coirnickrud, the error I gave occurs aftger "Starting Enterprise Volume Management System"05:29
_jasonN2DIY: that's exactly what I thought when I first learned about it05:29
rukuartictoMte83a: "man command" gives a complete tutorial, "whatis command" tells you in a nutshell05:29
ubotuwell, rute is a great guide for learning about Linux and is available at http://rute.2038bug.com/05:30
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rukuartictoMte83a: There's like, a program for every gui program... "mocp" is my favorite ^_^05:31
Coirnickrud, art thou there? =P05:31
xinI've downloaded a package (php5) source with apt-get source and ./configure'd it to suit my needs and then tested it and it works properly. How do I compile it as a .deb that provides for php5 and its counterparts?05:31
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rukuartictoMte83a: w3m and lynx work well too. "naim" is a must for all those AIM people05:31
toMte83a_jason / rukuartic thanks too both of u... i hope this give me some more knowleage... =)05:32
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rukuartictoMte83a: To find out what I'm talking about, type "apt-cache search w3m" and other programs. VI comes preinstalled though. here's a hint, press "i" to start editing, "esc" to stop, and type ":q" to quit05:32
rukuartictoMte83a: The console's especially handy to have if you use SSH to get into your computer. Oh, and SCREEN is a must have :P05:33
_jasontoMte83a: and if you want to get started with vim, 'vimtutor' is a great thing to run too05:33
Vaske_Caris there any site with SHELL tutorial for beginers?05:33
nickrudCoir, ok. my first pass is that something somewhere is running a fat32 check of some kind. The first two references I've seen are about usb sticks, so I don't know if that matters, but sda devices I shy away from.05:33
mikeCould anybody assist me with nVidia nForce 2 issues on Ubuntu Breezy?05:33
_jasonubotu: tell Vaske_Car about cli05:33
toMte83a_jason rukuartic: saving all the things u whriting too me and im gonna check it all, thanks again :)05:33
nickrudCoir, what kind of device are you booting from, anyway?05:34
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N2DIYVaske_Car, run man bash in a terminal05:34
SimplyFlowersethk:  the adapter isn't listed when i do ifconfig -a or ifconfig05:34
CoirIDE HDD05:34
sethkSimplyFlower, ok, that means either that a kernel module must be loaded, or possibly that a kernel rebuild is necessary with support for that NIC05:34
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toMte83aNice, Now i have something too do all day long... :)05:34
mikeAm I invisible? I just need a little help with my nForce2 audio drivers.05:35
toMte83aLoads of coffey and this is gonna be fun... =)05:35
N2DIYSimplyFlower, google search for your cards make and model, and "linux module."05:35
rukuartictoMte83a: To show you the coolness of bash, try this "ps aux" (that lists all the programs running) Now try this, "ps aux | grep <your username>" now that shows you all the programs you're running. You can do that with "ls" too (list files in the directory) "ls | grep <files>"05:35
SimplyFlowersethk:  i'm a newbie.  what does that mean and what do i need to do?05:35
nickrudCoir, then if I saw that error, I'd check my data trail and reinstall.05:35
SimplyFloweror what can i do?05:35
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mjbHello my /var/lib/dpkg/available is missing? apt-get update does't seem to refresh. Any clues?05:36
sethkSimplyFlower, it isn't really difficult.  I'm going to have to look up the name of the module.   I'm a bit tied up with work stuff at this moment but be patient and I'll get to it.  Or, perhaps, someone else knows?  The name of the kernel module for his Dlink NIC (exact model above)?05:36
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N2DIYSimplyFlower, once we find what module(driver) the card needs, we can get it to work.05:36
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ramza3ubuthe smb.conf file provided; what changes do most people make to it; for example just a simple share with a winxp machine05:36
Coirnickrud, I tried reinstallation, albeit the Dapper Drake Beta, it worked on the first boot fine, but after that... I guess I'll try installing Breezy.05:36
rukuartictoMte83a: Can you tell I'm obsessed? O_o :: fervish fever... drinks coffee::05:37
mikenVidia nForce 2 drivers don't seem to be powering my sound except for at the login screen where I get a da-da-da type sound.05:37
GigaClon_jason what was that find command?05:37
nickrudCoir, do you have really new hardware?05:37
Coirnickrud, nope05:37
_jasonGigaClon: find ~ -type f -exec grep MANPATH '{}' \;05:37
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GigaClonit finds some of our discussion05:38
nickrudCoir, my last dapper install was the live beta, and I installed that to disk. I have normal ide hardware.05:38
SimplyFlowersethk and N2DIY:  thank you05:38
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_jasonGigaClon: what do you mean? like irc logs :P ?05:38
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toMte83arukuartic : lol ... my english is so bad so i didnt get that line 100% but i know one importent thing, cant live without coffey...05:38
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rukuartictoMte83a: What do you natively speak? There are #ubuntu-<lang> channels05:39
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Coirnickrud, the live beta of dapper has always been buggy for me for some reason, the first time I tried it, my GRUB partition got messed-up05:39
_jasonGigaClon: haha05:39
mikeIf it helps, I have the nForce driver download from nVidia.com. I've attempted following directions from the site and I get an error saying that the kernel isn't in the right location.05:39
_jasonGigaClon: but nothing useful?05:39
Coirnickrud, well, grub bootloader rather05:39
GigaClonnot yet05:39
toMte83ai know, im just visiting this one, im from sweden and spend most of the time in #ubuntu-se but all swedes are asleep right now, boring people05:40
toMte83ai know, im just visiting this one, im from sweden and spend most of the time in #ubuntu-se but all swedes are asleep right now, boring people rukuartic05:40
mikeSomebody please help me.05:41
GigaClonwe can't05:41
mikeI'm at the end of my rope with this. I'll admit, I'm a newb to linux.05:41
nickrudCoir, I went for several years without a reinstall, but I've done a handful of fresh installs over the last year. If you're trying to second guess the installer, don't.05:41
_jasonubotu: tell mike about support05:41
_jasonmike: have you been directed to the nvidia wiki yet?05:42
mikeNo, I haven't.05:42
_jasonubotu: tell mike about nvidia05:42
GigaClonignore me05:42
_jasonGigaClon: well definitely seems to be autopackage05:42
GigaClonis there a way to see what files they come from?05:43
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_jasonGigaClon: oops, should have given you that option, use grep -H05:44
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GigaClonyou mean find?05:44
GigaClonmike look at your private messages05:44
_jasonmike: you should have received a private message from ubotu with nvidia wiki link05:44
_jasonGigaClon: find ~ -type f -exec grep -H MANPATH '{}' \;05:44
_jasonGigaClon: even better:05:45
_jasonGigaClon: find ~ -type f -exec grep -Hn MANPATH '{}' \;05:45
mikeOh! Am I ever dense! LOL Thank you.05:45
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rukuarticmike: humansnack05:45
grap3okay, I was following this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106285&highlight=patch+kernel+2.6.12 and at step nine I compile my kernel like it says but I get an error during05:45
grap3make[4] : *** No rule to make target `drivers/ide/pci/it821x.c', needed by `drivers/ide/pci/it821x.o'.  Stop.05:45
grap3Can anyone help me out?05:45
N2DIYprivate messages? I'm new to irc, what's that all about?05:46
mikeRight now, all information about my nvidia parts are not available until a later time. I'm using the Breezy Badger version now. The Ubuntu help site seems to have nothing.05:46
mikeSo, I'll check out the wiki05:47
rukuarticmike: lspci?05:47
xinwhere can I file a bug with ubuntu? or atleast something that looks like a bug?05:47
eggzeckgrap3, did you ./configure (whatever it is you're trying to do)?05:47
ubotubugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs05:47
xinduh, im dumb05:47
chip42N2DIY: all about /msg ;)05:47
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rukuarticxin: Thats ok :P We all are05:47
eggzeckgrap3, then 'make' and then 'make install'05:47
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toMte83arukuartic "whatis bash" didnt give anything... just came a -"bash (1) <!--------space-----------//>  -GNU Bourne-Again Shell :/05:47
rukuarticmike: Lists PCI devices on your machine05:47
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rukuartictoMte83a: Well thats what it is XD05:47
mikeOh, would this work for onboard audio?05:47
rukuartictoMte83a: Try "man bash"05:47
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toMte83arukuartic better... thanks05:48
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rukuartictoMte83a: Press "q" to exit the manpage. (ps: man = manual)05:48
mikeHmm... while I'm at it. Is there any way to make Ubuntu Breezy rescan all USB ports? I've moved my computer and didn't plug things back in where they originally were at installation.05:49
toMte83arukuartic could figure.... ;)05:49
xinhey my bug has been reported, now i just post the fix ^_^05:49
mjbhey wheres the best irc for apt-get q's?05:49
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cafuegomike: That should not matter at all.05:50
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RobyXWhat plugins am I supposto install to play music? I downloaded off gtuntella and using rythmbox music player but it tells me every song is not a correct audio stream05:50
mikeInteresting... My USB mouse refuses to cooperate with me now.05:50
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_jasonRobyX: mp3?05:50
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_jasonRobyX: what type of music files are they?05:51
rukuartictoMte83a: So yeah, lemme know if you want/need a console app :p05:51
ubotump3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:51
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toMte83aconsole app? extras for the terminal?05:53
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toMte83aconsole app? extras for the terminal?  rukuartic05:53
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N2DIYmjb, why mess wiht apt-get, when you have /system/admin/synaptic?05:53
GigaClon_jason, now how to reset my Manpath05:53
_jasonGigaClon: export MANPATH=05:53
rukuartictoMte83a: A console app is just a program designed to run in the console. Search for "music on console" and "ncurses AIM" and "irssi"05:53
rukuartictoMte83a: irssi is actually preinstalled on ubuntu. Try typing "irc" at the bash prompt05:53
intelikeyN2DIY why mess with a GUI when you have linux ?05:54
GigaClon_jason thanks05:54
eggzeckN2DIY, ? I still use apt-get heh05:54
_jasonGigaClon: np05:54
rukuarticN2DIY: You mean there's a gui to apt-get?05:54
eggzeckN2DIY, and synaptic still uses apt-get ;p05:54
rukuartictoMte83a: :P Just a start to learning the console, using console apps05:54
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intelikeyrukuartic it's called synaptic05:54
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rukuarticintelikey: :OOOO You mean I don't have to sit forever typing endless lines of commands into the commandline!? Does that involve using one of those darn fangled mouse things?05:55
christina_can anyone talk me through installing my web cam?05:55
N2DIYintelikey, egzeck, urbuartic, yes apt-get has a gui, and yes you can do more with eight fingers and two thumbs.05:55
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xinIf a bug I've found is allready on the bugtracker but listed as unconfirmed, should I mark it as confirmed? Or dont I have the permissions to do that?05:55
christina_i know nothing about this computer05:55
eggzeckN2DIY, I wasn't asking if apt-get had a gui ;)05:55
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N2DIYthan you can with one hand and a mouse.05:56
rukuarticintelikey: I actually prefer aptitude05:56
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intelikeywell as soon as you geeks learn how to use dpkg  and leave all those  "frontends" alone......05:56
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christina_i really need help before i cry05:56
N2DIYeggzeck, yes, that is what I get for answering a question with a question, I hate that too.05:56
eggzeckhehe :)05:56
toMte83arukuartic gonna read more about irssi too... remeber your nick and if u are online i can yell... but first i need too read a lot and get some good basic ground too stand on05:57
InnerFIREwhats wrong christina05:57
seamus-laptopanyone here using Breezy on an Inspiron 600m?05:57
rukuartictoMte83a: Yep :) Good for you.05:57
rukuarticRight guys05:57
rukuarticits late05:57
mikeUh-huh... maybe I should have used a female name to get answers faster! LOL j/k05:57
toMte83arukuartic~ yeah05:57
rukuarticand Imma head to bed soon.05:57
christina_innerfire i need to connect my web cam and have no clue how05:57
pundaihey i just upgraded to dapper but my synaptics touchpad doesnt scroll anymore05:57
eggzeckpundai, #ubuntu+105:58
InnerFIREwhat kinda webcam?05:58
pundaieggzeck, oh05:58
christina_all i know is that is says hp on it05:58
pvd2006Ubuntu use to be an option on the boot loader along with windows xp, then I re-installed windows xp on the same partition windows xp was on before and now I dont have an option to boot into ubuntu. Butwhen I goto system info it still shows me I have all 3 partitions.05:58
intelikeymike maybe....    but sometimes  just asking at the right time is the trick.05:58
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pvd2006Both partitions are on the same hard drive.05:58
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toMte83arukuartic cant have Ubuntu / linux just becouse its nice colors and chatting... ;) cya later going /away now, learning shit...05:59
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slavikok, good05:59
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InnerFIREare u using dapper or breezy?05:59
InnerFIREcheck your p/m05:59
mikeI'm just hoping to get sound working on here... unless I need modules to play wav files too.05:59
rukuarticInnerFIRE: Methinks, its a dual boot box. Shutdown/reboot maybe, but then no login.05:59
slavikdapper ftw05:59
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seamus-laptopLooking for some help with the screensavers on my laptop.  When they're previewed, they seem to run fine, but in fullscreen they are horribly slow.  Running the open source ati drivers on a mobility radeon 9000.05:59
rukuarticInnerFIRE: That is, if I'm wrong.05:59
christina_i think it's breezy05:59
christina_yes it is06:00
eggzeckseamus-laptop, what's your memory like?06:00
rukuarticseamus-laptop: Welcome to Xorg06:00
N2DIYpvd2006, winders eats up the partiton table, or your boot manager.06:00
pvd2006is there a way I can get ubuntu working again through some file in windows?06:00
InnerFIREmost hp cameras work with breezy.. ive only had problems with creative..06:00
rukuarticAnd happy new day from EST everyone06:00
seamus-laptopeggzeck: 64 megs on the video, 512 main06:00
slavikrukuartic: same06:00
mikeHeh, EST... we've still got an hour to go here. LOL06:01
InnerFIREopen up ekiga06:01
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christina_ekiga? what's that?06:01
pvd2006m2kiy, so how can I get the partition table back and get the option to boot back into ubuntu?06:01
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pvd2006can I use the ubuntu cd06:01
mikeInnerFIRE: What about a dual mode camera from Vivitar?06:01
N2DIYpvd2006, you might be able to re-install Ubuntu? always install winder, and then linux, or winders will mess things up.06:01
christina_i'm sorry i'm not very bright...lol06:01
intelikey!tell pvd2006 about dualboot06:01
pvd2006m2diy yeah, that is what I did before.06:02
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christina_it won't let me open it06:02
InnerFIREchristina.. open up gnomemeeting, it should be in your applications menu under internet06:02
|Lord_Zoo|Hi people06:02
N2DIYintelikey, dual boot won't work if winders is the second install, always install linux last.06:02
GigaClonanyone use davfs?06:03
christina_then what?06:03
|Lord_Zoo|can anybody tell me where's the modprobe.conf or modules.conf in ubuntu?06:03
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InnerFIRErun the initial setup and see if your system will detect your camera06:03
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intelikeyN2DIY he said it's on the first partition06:04
seamus-laptop|Lord_Zoo|  /etc/modules06:04
pvd2006intelikey, I read the site and I saw the part about the partition table, but what if ubuntu is already installed and I just need to get the partition table back so I can boot back into ubuntu. Can I use the ubuntu cd for that?06:05
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N2DIYintelikey, doesn't matter, that is where the mbr are is, and that is what winders is going to grab.06:05
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N2DIYIf he can still see his linux partition, maybe he can save his data, but he'll have to reload linux to dual boot.06:06
jmoncayois there any kind of Cbuilder or delphy 7 for linux??06:06
pvd2006windows xp is the first partition(0) and ubuntu is partition (1) but windows load as partition(0)06:06
|Lord_Zoo|seamus-laptop, so, if I want to disable ipv6, like I do in fedora, I must put alias net-pf-10 off in there?06:06
nickrud|Lord_Zoo|, which version of ubuntu are you running?06:06
intelikeypvd2006 all you need to do is reinstall grub,   as i see it.06:06
sethkjmoncayo, not precisely, but there are gui builders and IDEs.06:06
sethkjmoncayo, take a look at anjuta06:06
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ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik06:06
|Lord_Zoo|nickrud, 5.1006:06
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pvd2006ok re-install gfrub, so can you just reinstall grub straight from the ubuntu cd on bootup?06:06
intelikeyN2DIY no not a reload  just reinstall grub/lilo  or what ever boot loader he uses.06:07
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jmoncayosethk, what is IDE, ?? i am kind of learning programming gui?06:07
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nickrud|Lord_Zoo|, a sec, I need to mount that partition06:07
sethkjmoncayo, IDE means integrated development environment06:07
N2DIYintelikey, ok, I don't know alot about this, just what I've read, I don't mess with dual boot systems.06:07
|Lord_Zoo|thanks, nickrud, I'll wait :)06:08
intelikeypvd2006 yes you can.    you can mount your linux partition cd into it  then  do   chroot . grub-install06:08
sethkjmoncayo, it refers to an editor with smart indenting, and you can compile from within the editor, and such06:08
avrhi. does anybody know how to get a fullscreen presentation using xpdf? i do xpdf -fullscreen, but the scrollbar and the border at the bottom reappear06:08
sethkjmoncayo, a GUI builder is often part of an IDE; it allows you to build a user interface interactively06:08
sethkjmoncayo, I don't do user interfaces, so I know more about IDEs than I know about GUI builders06:09
jmoncayosethk, oh yea i remember that from class :)06:09
InnerFIREhas anyone here ever owned a Gateway performance 500?06:09
N2DIYintelikey, and I hope your right, I've savaged some winder boxes, and had to run debug on hard drive to get them bootable with linux.06:10
jmoncayoso do you know any gui builder?06:10
sethkjmoncayo, for java, look at eclipse06:10
sethkjmoncayo, sun has a java gui builder06:10
sethkjmoncayo, that can run in linux06:10
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pvd2006intelikey, alright, so then I should have an option to boot into ubuntu and windows xp after that.06:11
intelikeypvd2006 yes.    the options are in the /boot/menu.lst  file on the linux partition.06:11
slavikjmoncayo: there is also Glade for C/C++06:11
multiis it possible to do a ssh_keygen so that 4 machines can sign on to each other in any combination without needing a password?06:11
jmoncayoslavik, Glade is like c++builder>06:12
|Lord_Zoo|it is possible that the configuration resides on /etc/modutils?06:12
sethkmulti, yes06:12
N2DIYpvd2006, your going to have to preserve your partitions, be careful. I've never messed with that.06:12
slavikright, what did I say?06:12
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multisethk: what is the magic incantation?06:12
nickrud|Lord_Zoo|, you'd put that in a new file in /etc/modprobe.d . I need to refresh my memory every time I need to tweak the kernel06:12
slavikoh, oops, misworded06:12
toMte83arukuartic only atleast 2000 lines of information... this is gonna take time... lol06:12
slavikyou were talking about a GUI builder ...06:12
|Lord_Zoo|no matter what's the file name?06:12
slavikGlade builds GUI in C/C++06:12
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christina_ok innerfire?06:13
sethkmulti, you set ssh to do pki (public/private keys), and you have to put the keys into the .ssh directory ($HOME/.ssh) on all the machines06:13
jmoncayoslavik, oki thanks06:13
intelikeyok i've had it.    pvd2006 i'll go and let N2DIY talk you out of fixing it.   good night and good luck.06:13
christina_it won't let me in gnome meeting either06:13
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nickrud|Lord_Zoo|, assuming it's not set by anything that already in that dir, that's where all those alias's show up06:14
InnerFIREwhat do u mean?06:14
jmoncayoslavik, what is the difference between glade and glade-2? or GTK and GTK-206:14
InnerFIREwhat did it say?06:14
N2DIYintelikey, what happened, I said I didn't know how to do it?06:14
|Lord_Zoo|thanks nickrud , I'll try it and let you know :)06:15
jmoncayosethk, anjuta is only for gnome??06:15
sethkjmoncayo, no, I run it on a kde machine also06:15
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multisethk: looking up pki... ... the previous procedure for 2 machines was to copy the id_rsa.pub file to the other authorized_keys file.... but this dosn't seem to work for more than two06:15
|Lord_Zoo|I'm too fedorized right now, and I want to test ubuntu :)06:16
christina_it says it's already running if you want to call a given callto or h323 url use gnomeeting -c url06:16
jmoncayosethk, have you used c++ builder or delphi?06:16
sethkjmoncayo, something can be "for gnome" or "for kde" but can still run in either environment.  I know that sounds weird but it's true06:16
christina_what's that mean?06:16
sethkjmoncayo, I used delphi a long time ago06:16
jmoncayosethk, in antuja like delphi?06:16
InnerFIREnevermind calling..06:17
sethkjmoncayo, there are similarities.  they aren't identical06:17
jmoncayoi mean the IDE and that stuff06:17
nickrud Lord_Zoo|, /etc/modprobe.d/alias file has the  net-pf-10 ipv6 def, you might want to look there to make any changes06:17
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InnerFIREduring the setup of gnomemeeting, it should ask you for your camera settings06:17
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sethkjmoncayo, for one thing, anjuta can do various languages, and delphi is pretty much a one language tool06:17
no_no_noI need help!!06:17
jmoncayosethk, ok i will try it then06:17
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sethkjmoncayo, that's the best thing to do.  it's definitely worth looking at; it's a nice program06:17
christina_i can't even get in it though06:17
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christina_i just wanna cry06:17
no_no_noi'm a complete noob.. and am trying to edit etc/network/options ... but dunno how to..06:17
slavikjmoncayo: glade-2 and gtk-2 are more up to date :)06:18
jmoncayosethk, what is that of GTK?06:18
christina_i'm so stupid with computers....i wish i knew more06:18
jmoncayoslavik, what about anjuta?06:18
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zithhow do you test out an fstab config without restarting?06:19
multisethk; thank you... peace06:19
no_no_nocan anyone help me? im trying to setup an ltsp server with two NIC...06:19
chip42zith: use mount... where you got the idea you need to restart after making a change, i dunno. that is generally not true in linux06:19
|Lord_Zoo|I saw it there, but I Thought I can define this in another file06:19
sethkjmoncayo, GTK is the GUI toolkit that gnome is built on top of06:19
|Lord_Zoo|I'll change it directly in alias and see what happens06:19
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InnerFIREchristina, what are you going to use the webcam for?06:20
|Lord_Zoo|thanks again nickrud06:20
no_no_noi dunno anything and im following these directions : https://wiki.edubuntu.org/ThinClientHowtoNAT06:20
holy_cowno_no_no, in terminal type in sudo gedit, and open it up with gedit06:20
sethkjmoncayo, if you'll excuse the dangling prepositions06:20
zithchip42: just type mount and that applies fstab?06:20
harisundToday I observed a very strange thing. The computer that I have here doesn't allow me to install either of breezy or hoary, but actually installed Warty !06:20
InnerFIREwhich program?06:20
christina_to chat on line06:20
no_no_nobut i dunno how to edit etc/network/options if i dont have permission. :(06:20
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lrojashi all06:20
InnerFIREusing what?06:20
zithchip42: i just know that processing fstab is part of the boot initialization but don't know where it's initiated exactly :>06:20
holy_cowno_no_no, thats why i told you to type 'sudo gedit'06:20
harisundIs there a difference in the way Canonical burnt those CDs (the ones sent through shipit) ?06:20
no_no_nooh sorry06:20
holy_cowthat will start gedit wit proper permissions06:20
lrojashi guys06:21
no_no_noit didnt start anyting06:21
InnerFIREhave u tried going to a channel?06:21
nickrud|Lord_Zoo|, theoretically any changes you make to a file in /etc is supposed to be sacrsanct; kernel parameters don't fall into that categority06:21
holy_cowdid you get asked for a password?06:21
chip42zith: sort of got it... once you modified fstab, the changes were made... mount is being run on boot.. it reads fstab and brings up the fileystems... you can use the command manually to bring up any recent changes you just made to fstab06:21
lrojasanybody experienced with xubuntu?06:21
InnerFIREhave you tried to use the camera already with firefox?06:21
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jmoncayosethk, oki so gtk+ 2 comes with new libraries for gui?06:21
holy_cowif its not asking for your pass your hosed your system06:21
chip42zith: man mount will tell you how... but generally mount /mount/point will bring up something defined in fstab06:21
harisundI have a quick question guy, if I install warty (4.10!) can I just modify the sources to point to dapper, do an upgrade, and then a dist-upgrade, and expect a working system?06:21
no_no_nolet me restart06:22
christina_i have to run the cd first to install it06:22
sethkjmoncayo, not sure what you mean by "new" libraries06:22
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holy_cowno_no_no, have you done something stupid like create a root account and are using that?06:22
christina_it won't run06:22
jmoncayosethk, well can antuja run under fluxbox??06:22
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mramfinally flas player 7 is out for ubuntu06:22
no_no_noim using whatever edubuntu asked for..06:22
sethkjmoncayo, yes, as long as the libraries it needs are installed.  but the libraries aren't packaged with it, you have to install them first06:22
_jasonmram: it's been out for a while?06:22
no_no_noits a $06:22
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InnerFIREcheck your private msgs06:23
lrojasi want to install xubuntu but i am not sure of the propper way to do it06:23
slavikjmoncayo: I am using Anjuta. It is an IDE for C/C++/Perl and some others06:23
nickrudharisund, no, release to release and the wiki has the gotchas06:23
jmoncayosethk, if i install antuja with apt-get will it get all the libraries i need06:23
slavikI am having trouble creating distributions though06:23
sethkjmoncayo, yes, it will take care of those automatically06:23
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InnerFIREi just private msged u06:23
rob138hi, is there a way to download files off daap shares on a network?06:23
harisundnickrud: Ok, so what is your suggestion? I have just installed Warty now. I want breezy.06:23
jmoncayoslavik, antuja can make gui06:23
InnerFIREis your nickname registered?06:23
zithchip42: perfect thanks!  when I rebooted that machine it didn't start sshd agaain for me to get into remotely... :(06:23
holy_cowno_no_no,  your messing something up ... your shell is the program you start from applications / accessories / terminal by the way06:23
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holy_cownot alt/ f2 if that is what your doing06:24
no_no_nowhat's alt ft?06:24
lrojasxubuntu mentions dapper, but i see it as a beta..  can someone please clarify?06:24
nickrudharisund, if your pipe to the internet is really big, going from warty -> hoary -> breezy might make sense, but if not just getting the breezy install iso makes better sense.06:24
slavikjmoncayo: Anjuta uses Glade to make GUI :)06:24
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jmoncayooki, so i can do it cool06:24
no_no_nohey it worked!06:25
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slavikno_no_no: 'ALT' is a key next to the space bar06:25
mram_jason: really hmm, mine just did the update!06:25
holy_cowno_no_no, of course it did06:25
slavik'F2' is a key along the top of the keyboard06:25
zhenrewhy does ubuntu have to reboot after updates...debian/knoppix don't seem to require it06:25
no_no_noalt-f2 is terminal shortcut?06:25
_jasonmram: macromedia's link was down the last few days06:25
|Lord_Zoo|besides this, I tend to like ubuntu :)06:25
no_no_nosorry im brand new to this06:25
holy_cowno its not06:25
slavikzhenre: what did you update?06:25
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harisundnickrud: The problem is, for some reason only the Warty CD was identified by my machine here. So I could end up with Warty only. The other CDs (ones from Canonical) stopped and gave the error, something along the lines of unable to verify CD integrity06:25
|Lord_Zoo|Now it's matter of time and patience to learn a few new things06:25
mram_jason: i see that could be why mine just updated right now06:25
InnerF|REi honestly never got my camera to work until i upgraded to dapper..06:25
_jasonmram: yeah06:25
mram_jason: thanks for the info06:26
no_no_nohey after i did sudo gedit once it didnt ask for the paswd after i closed the terminal and tried it again06:26
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rob138hi, is there a way to download files off daap shares... like daap:// or even with a program?06:26
holy_cowharisund, it  makes no difference, you can start off with warty and dist-upgrade to whatever current is btw.06:26
christina_how do i do that?06:26
harisundnickrud: I am sure the problem is not with the CDs, since I have around 10 such CDs (I do a lot of distribution here) and I have installed on other machines with them. I know the CD drive is not a problem since it installed FC 4/5 and Warty06:26
InnerF|REim trying to private msg you..06:26
InnerF|REwhat are u using06:26
holy_cowno_no_no, once you give the command permission, it remembers it for that session.  when you log out it will forget it because the session is reset06:27
harisundholy_cow looks like I will have to end up doing that only. Just wanted to make sure that nothing gets broken along the way.06:27
InnerF|RElook at the bottom of your screen, you should have a msg from me06:27
christina_i just see u said updrade dapper06:27
holy_cowharisund, *nod* mostly its foolproof, but stuff does happen ... i've never had a debian / ubuntu system unfixeable doing an upgrade06:27
harisundnickrud: I remember you told me about an upgrade route mentioned in the wiki. Could you help me find that out?06:27
harisundholy_cow: Yeah, I agree with that.I really do bow down to the power of apt in that regard.06:28
nickrudharisund, if you can get one of those machines up to dapper from a warty install, that might help narrow the problem :)06:28
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KingBahamutevening all06:28
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blindhow do you get transparent windows in ubuntu?06:29
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lrojasalso (how can i eliminate the ubuntu user and create my own user and others to use the machine? )06:29
nickrudharisund, I've pointed a few people at ubotu, but warty's fallen off I see06:30
mramlrojas: sorry man i am gnome lover ;-)06:30
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slaviklrojas: what do you mean "eliminate the ubuntu user" ?06:31
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rob138is there a way in snome to access daap shares through nautilus?06:31
slaviklrojas: to create users, look into passw I think06:32
harisund_nickrud and holy_cow, I got disconnected...sorry about that.. anyway, nickrud could you point me towards a wiki link?06:32
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik06:32
lrojaswell, ubuntu ( i only have tested the live cd and am prepping to install thge real oine ) comes with a default user ( ubuntu ) and i would like to get asked for what user name to use06:32
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zhenrehow does one get mp3 working with rhythmbox (works fine with mpg123)06:32
slaviklrojas: when you install it should ask to create a user account ...06:32
zhenreand xmms06:32
ubotufrom memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats06:33
slavikzhenre: follow that link06:33
nickrudharisund, there was one, a sec ( I was away )06:33
rob138slavik, so no luck huh06:33
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chip42Irojas: its a live cd... of course it is going to come with a default user :p06:34
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zhenreslavik: thanks! it worked like a charm06:34
harisund_nickrud: Don't bother.. I searched the Ubuntu forums, and found the links.06:35
harisund_nickrud: Thanks though.06:35
nickrudharisund, good, cuz I was about to say I have no clue :)06:35
lrojashow about regarding xubuntu? anybody has any experience using it?06:35
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ubotua large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>06:35
harisund_nickrud: No problem. Anyway, the wiki suggests I upgrade to Hoary first, and then Breezy. So I guess I will be going that route only.06:35
slavikrob138: with what?06:36
blindCan I watch .wmv's on ubuntu? I thought VLC could run any format?06:36
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slavikblind: try totem06:36
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dabaRubotu: no, anyone is a large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>06:36
ubotudabaR: okay06:36
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chichehehe, somebody could06:36
carthikblind, I can, you need the proper codecs06:36
blindslavik: where can i get decoders for totem? I can't run anything in totem06:36
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blindcarthik: codecs for VLC?06:37
rob138with !daap06:37
dabaRblind: some wmv has encryption that can not be decoded06:37
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no_no_nookay.. another question... if im setting up ltsp clients and they cant network boot.. i need to put a boot loader like grub on the HD....06:37
slavikwhat's daap? someone else was asking about it06:37
no_no_nodoes that mean i cant use the HD for anything else?06:37
lrojasubotu: well my question is self explanatory, i am looking for someone who had installed xubuntu, i am curios as to what method should i choose, since the iso images are the recomended way but are basede on the next ( beta ) release06:37
ubotulrojas: okay06:37
dabaRno_no_no: did you ask in #edubuntu06:37
carthikblind, I answered the first of your questions.06:37
slavik!tell blind about restricted06:37
blindpossible to run WMP through wine? :D06:37
no_no_nois that a channel?06:37
dabaRubotu: tell lrojas about uvotu06:37
no_no_nooh it is.. thanks for your help.06:37
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dabaRno_no_no: edubuntu.org06:38
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik06:38
carthikblind, use mplayer with codecs-essential and w32codecs - which is what I do. There are files I can open that my windows user friend cannot :) (which is just awesome, I tell you)06:38
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no_no_noyall are great help... im reading the wiki and faq06:38
dabaRlrojas: there are isos maybe for breezy. do9 you have ubuntu installed?06:38
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dabaRno_no_no: no, no, no, we suck.06:39
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Sniper00Xi'm trying to install breezy amd64 from cd and it keeps failing at the same location ... load additional components .. any ideas?06:39
blindcarthik: alright, I'll give it a whirl. downloading the w32codecs now.06:39
Sniper00Xi have tried multiple cds06:39
clicheno_no_no, no no_no_no06:39
Sniper00Xand checked their integrity06:39
no_no_noim confused.06:39
mpg456hi folks06:39
dabaRcliche: that is a total cliche06:39
mpg456could someone pls help me?06:39
clicheI doubt06:40
Dr_Willisand the problem is?06:40
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.06:40
no_no_noi can follow directions.. but even the help and faqs are wirtten for engineers. I dunno even how to use a floppy on this thing.06:40
mpg456im having trouble in running mpg123 on background06:40
dabaRno_no_no: nice. which one do you not understand and which part?06:40
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cliche! tell me about smart questions06:40
ubotucliche: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:40
mpg456im runnung it via cron... and it runs...06:41
carthikmpg456, try mpg123 <whatever> &06:41
mpg456but it dies right away06:41
no_no_nowell Im following this : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowtoNAT06:41
SimplyFlowersethk:  any luck on finding the module for D-Link Ethernet?  don't mean to be a pest, but am getting drowsy.06:41
mpg456this is the line06:41
carthikmpg456, the "&" at the end is important06:41
mpg456mpg123 -z --list playlist &06:41
clicheD-Link sucks06:41
mpg456and it dies....06:41
dabaRmpg456: nohup mpg123 blah&06:41
clicheespecialy, usb wireless device (b/g)06:41
sethkSimplyFlower, give me that model number again?06:41
mpg456I'm using the same script on suse and it works T_T06:42
dabaRmpg456: come back to ask how to kill it.06:42
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Sniper00Xany ideas on why i'm getting "problem reading data from cd-rom" at "load installer componets from cd" stage?06:42
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carthikdabaR, you're evil.06:42
SimplyFlowersethk:  DFE-500TX PCI06:42
N2DIYI can't play DVDs, I keep getting libdvdcss errors, ideas?06:42
Apostle^sudo apt-get install libdvdcss06:42
dabaRcarthik: :( >:[06:42
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clicheSimplyFlower, are you using the D-Link usb wireless bar?06:43
Apostle^also libdvdread3-dev06:43
Apostle^also libdvdread306:43
jmoncayosethk, how can i make a button with anjuta06:43
N2DIYI did that last nigh, now I'm rebooting in case something needs to stick?06:43
jmoncayowhere do i find the labels and that stuff06:43
sethkjmoncayo, that's the GUI builder part06:43
sethkSimplyFlower, that's USB, wireless?06:43
slavikjmoncayo: anjuta does not build a GUI, Glade does06:44
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slaviksethk: you try anjuta2 beta?06:44
sethkslavik, not yet06:44
ubotuIf you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.06:44
SimplyFlowersethk:  no it's not wireless its my ethernet card installed into my computer06:44
sethkslavik, have you?06:44
sethksimplydazed, ok06:44
slavikI did, had trouble06:44
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jmoncayoslavik, so anjuta is only a c/c++ IDE but not a gui builder?06:45
slavikfirstly I couldn't compile it with 3 plugins06:45
slavikjmoncayo: correct06:45
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r3dickHello,  Can any point me to a site or page where I might find info on a 686 keyboard not working problem06:45
slashhi guys06:45
slavikjmoncayo: anjuta uses glade to build GUI06:45
slashI have a question06:45
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crimsunr3dick: please answer my question from -devel.06:45
clicheanjuta +106:45
slaviksethk: then, I tried to open a file and the text wouldn't be rendered properly06:45
sethkSimplyFlower, what speed?  10? 100? 1000?06:45
slashhow do I configure services on ubuntu?06:45
user01is the #debian channel open?06:45
thatGuy_does anyone here use expocity?06:45
jmoncayoslavik, is glade like delphi?06:45
thatGuy_mine doesn't seem to be working right06:45
sethkslavik, well, it is beta  :)06:45
slavikuser01: yes, but don't ask them ubuntu question06:46
thatGuy_its taking forever to display windows06:46
SimplyFlowersethk:  10006:46
clicheuser01, #debian has too many users06:46
N2DIYlibdvdcss, ribdvdread3-dev and libdvdread3 are all in the same package?06:46
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r3dickcrimsun I did not see ur question could you please ask again.06:46
slaviksethk: yes, and I think it compiling and running (without crashing) is already a big start ;)06:46
dabaRslavik: remember that? Do you think a lot of people still go there for Ubuntu questions?06:46
thatGuy_i'm wondering where i can go to configure to configure its settings and settings for metacity06:46
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slavikjmoncayo: delphi is a language, I think.06:46
user01#debian unable to join channel (address is banned)06:46
sethkSimplyFlower, I found the 550, but not the 500 yet.  I'm still looking06:46
user01ah ok that explains it06:46
crimsunr3dick: 23:42 < crimsun> only 2.6.15-21.32-686 ? 23:42 < crimsun> as in 2.6.15-21.32-386 works fine?06:46
slavikdabaR: I wasn't here during that time, but the topic still says 'this is not #ubuntu'06:46
clicheslavik, delphi is a city06:46
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slavikcliche: in greece06:47
SimplyFlowersethk: ok, thank you... will be waiting06:47
jmoncayoslavik, is glade another language or is c/c++ gui builder?06:47
sethkSimplyFlower, did you have the chipset for that?06:47
clicheslavik, + old greece06:47
slavikjmoncayo: it is a builder06:47
NafaiIs there a reason that I would still be getting British spellings in my dialog boxes (like colours in the desktop background properties) when I have English (United States) selected in Language Support.   I'm running Dapper06:47
sethkSimplyFlower, I think you said, but there is so much info flying by ....06:47
slavikjmoncayo: glade spits out the proper code for the gui06:47
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slavikusing gtk framework06:47
ic56slash: which services?06:47
SimplyFlowersethk:  DECchip 21142/4306:47
ubotuI heard services is to view and alter system services, use one or more of rcconf, sysvconfig, sysv-rc-conf, update-rc.d or ls, ln and rm in /etc/rc?.d/06:47
slavikcliche: old greece is called delphi?06:47
slashic56: anything06:47
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slashah.. sysvconfig06:48
slashmay rcconf :)06:48
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slashmay be.. going to try that ;)06:48
slashubotu: thanks06:48
ubotuslash: no problem06:48
jmoncayoslavik, so glade is another programming language?06:48
user01cliche: so if i got #debian unable to join channel (address is banned) that doesnt mean i was banned then...06:48
clicheglade = ogl-like?06:48
slasherr... rcconf no such command06:48
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slashwhich package is that?06:49
jmoncayoslavik, have you used c/c++ builder?06:49
slavikjmoncayo: have you ever used Visual Basic?06:49
slashah.. ok :)06:49
no_no_nowhat is initrd?06:49
r3dickcrimsun I dont believe I have the 21.32 kernel.  when I uname it  it comes back 15-21.  and yes the 386 works fine.  I do get a i8042 error on the 686 boot.06:49
jmoncayoslavik, yes i have, but now in college i am using c/c++ builder, so i am looking for some program that does that stuff06:50
clicheis Borland still alive?06:50
thatGuy_can i get some help with metacity06:50
no_no_noomg. ramdisk.06:50
slavikjmoncayo: remember making the GUI in Visual Basic?06:50
jmoncayolike i have c/c++ for windows and i have c/c++ for linux06:50
slavikthat is what Glade does.06:50
slashthanks guys06:50
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cliche"C++ is the ONE"06:50
slavikjmoncayo: are you looking for something like Visual C 6?06:50
thatGuy_this is locking up my computer everytime i hit alt+tab, which i do habitually06:51
slavikcliche: C++ is D actually06:51
jmoncayoslavik, yes but i dont know if you understand me06:51
cliche"C# is ... nothing"06:51
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crimsunr3dick: you're running 21.32 if you have 2.6.15-21-x8606:51
slavikjmoncayo: I don't, you either want a GUI builder (Glade) or an IDE (Anjuta)06:51
slavikIDE = Integrated Development Environment06:51
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clicheoww, I remember06:51
jmoncayoslavik, i mean if i write a program in c i can copy the code and make the same program in linux06:51
slavikIDE is the text editor that allows you to compile in one button press06:51
blindcarthik, running this wmv in mplayer now works, but it's unbelievably choppy. anything I can do about that?06:51
sethkSimplyFlower, you want the de4x5 driver06:51
TarkaDoes anyone know if there are nightly builds of Dapper?06:51
slavikjmoncayo: right06:51
clicheglade = a GUI builder like the Delphi's ?06:52
slavikjmoncayo: did you do apt-get install build-essential yet?06:52
jmoncayoslavik, yes06:52
SimplyFlowersethk:  where do i get it and how do i install it?06:52
slavikcliche: never used delphi, but glade is a gui builder that spits out gtk c/c++ code06:52
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slavikjmoncayo: good06:52
carthikblind, change the video output option and restart mplayer, till one works. I forgot which one is the one that works best, perhaps XV ?06:52
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blindI'll try it.06:52
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slavikjmoncayo: what did you use on windows for write your programs?06:52
cliche*sigh*, Delphis WAS amazing06:52
sethkSimplyFlower, you already have it, because it's part of the standard kernel06:53
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N2DIYOk, I shutdown the box, brought it back up and Totem is still complaining about not having libdvdcss to play DVDs?06:53
daddiusi would like to run emacs off a server but for some reason my display vairable won't work... any clue?06:53
jmoncayoslavik, now i mae a program gui in windows with c/c++ builder, and i want to copy the same code and make a gui program in linux06:53
slavikjmoncayo: that might not be possible06:53
jmoncayoslavik, for gui i use delphi 7 and c/c++ builder06:53
sethkSimplyFlower, the question is:  Is it compiled as a module and not inserted into the kernel, or is it not compiled?  In the latter case you need to do a kernel build.  In the former case you only need to do insmod06:53
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r3dickcrimsun OK I did not know that piece of info.  Today is my first time using chat so I am still working on learning protocol and functioning of xchat.  Thank you for answering my query even on wrong channel.06:53
slavikc/c++ builder ... I don't get that term06:53
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clicheC++ builder > Visual C++06:54
mpg123nohup mpg123 -z --list playlist also dies06:54
daddiuswhat is a c/c++ builder?  a compiler?06:54
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jmoncayoslavik, is a program to make gui with c/c++ code06:54
SimplyFlowersethk:  how do i know which it is or find out06:54
clichedaddius, a compiler bondle06:54
sethkSimplyFlower, I'm trying to find the module file name06:54
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jmoncayoslavik, like i want to use Application.Terminate(); in one button can i use that command or is a different one in glade06:55
clichedaddius, C/C++/Delphi compilers + GUI builder + ....06:55
slavikjmoncayo: then you want glade06:55
slavikjmoncayo: I don't know06:55
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slavikglade only builds the gui06:55
sethkSimplyFlower, the docs say the driver name is de4x5.ko06:55
daddiuscliche, how about emacs and gcc?06:55
sethkSimplyFlower, so, cd to /lib/modules06:55
slavikjmoncayo: look into gtk, tht is what glade uses06:56
sethkthen do this:   find . -name '*de4x5*' -print06:56
clichedaddius, they are articles06:56
dabaRdaddius: install build-essential06:56
jmoncayoslavik, well delphi 7 does the same thing but you can make code for the button for example with pascal code06:56
crimsunr3dick: ok, where does it fail to boot?06:56
clichedaddius, nano+hexedit+gcc is enough06:56
slavikI don't think Glade would allow you to do it06:56
sethkSimplyFlower, the directory from my original ubuntu install has the file06:57
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slavikcliche: hexedit isn't nice ... text rendering is off06:57
daddiuscliche, how is nano?06:57
jmoncayoslavik, is gtk like a programming language?06:57
dabaRjmoncayo: or monodevelop+gtk#06:57
daddiusgtk program lang is c06:57
sethkjmoncayo, gtk is a set of libraries06:57
clichenano/ee is good06:57
N2DIYSimpleFlower, just run "modprobe de4x5", the card should come up.06:58
sethkjmoncayo, you access them typically with c++ although you can use other languages as well06:58
sethkN2DIY, that's true06:58
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sethkN2DIY, I think he's gone06:58
sethkN2DIY, ingrate  :)06:58
daddiuscliche, since at my job we have emacs on all servers so i figure i spend some time learning it.. I hate the lack of indenting on it06:58
N2DIYsethk, who's gone?06:59
sethkdaddius, emacs has the best indenting of any editor06:59
sethkN2DIY, simplyflower06:59
slavikdaddius: emacs indents :)06:59
pip_how to install mono ?06:59
clichedaddius, :)06:59
SimplyFlowersethk: give me a minute... have to change computers again brb06:59
sethkdaddius, it has totally configurable smart indenting for dozens of languages06:59
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slaviksethk: maybe that is a problem :P06:59
N2DIYsethk, nope.06:59
daddiussethk, it indents true..  but out of the box it doesn't indent.. also i got it to indent with c++ but now i can't indent with perl. :-(06:59
newbuntuwhats the best way to rip a dvd to your harddrive?07:00
ic56daddius: emacs is programmable.  You can make it do anything, including toast (assuming your toaster is networked).07:00
slaviksethk: do you know if there is a way to install anjuta 2.0 along side with 1.2?07:00
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clichedaddius, you words suit for the program dummies07:00
sethkdaddius, it has c++, c, perl, java, out of the box07:00
r3dickcrimsun, after line loading linux comes the error i8042.c cant read CTR while init i8042.  Then continues booting to login prompt.  by the way I removed splash from menu.lst to see errors if any.07:00
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sethkdaddius, you just need to say M-x perl-mode07:00
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PORDOi'm logged into a machine where i'm trying to change my password with passwd, and it keeps complaining that my password is a reverse dictionary word, or too short, or whatever.  isn't there some way to override this BS?!07:00
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daddiusnot indenting.. perhaps i am wrong..07:00
sethkPORDO, sudo passwd username07:00
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sethkPORDO, e.g.  sudo passwd pordo  (if your user name happens to be pordo)07:01
z0rzHey I just installed a lamp server but when I try to view a php file.. in firefox... it tries to download the php file instead of vieweing it07:01
crimsunr3dick: wait, the system boots fine with -686?07:01
sethkPORDO, root can override the rules07:01
daddiussethk, mmmmm M-x perl-mode?   now is that the meta key?07:01
clichedaddius, emacs is made in korea07:01
daddiusle tme try now07:01
z0rzIs that because I don't have php loaded in apache.. or is it because I don't have the right MIME types setup in apache?07:01
FilipinoDXBwhat's the terminal command to access my Windows partition? it can be seen by my browser.07:01
daddiuscliche, figure it was gnu07:01
sethkdaddius, esc-x  or alt-x07:01
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slavikFilipinoDXB: cd is what changed the current directry07:02
arrickDid IdleOne change his/her name?07:02
clichedaddius, because it has anything, just not to come ture yet07:02
daddiussethk, I solute you ... I can see all the perl modes... now if I could only get this working07:02
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clichedaddius, hahahaha07:02
daddiusalso everyone i tend to run X and like to ssh into systems at work and do things..07:02
daddiusbut i found out that i can't do it with ubuntu07:03
daddiusi did it with cygwin07:03
sethkdaddius, sure you can07:03
no_no_noyay i found help: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/BootingClientsWithoutPxe07:03
daddiusbut hey screw cygwin07:03
sethkdaddius, I do it all the time07:03
daddiusi did the xhost + thing07:03
daddiusto disable all hosts and what not07:03
sethkdaddius, I use the same .ssh directory in cygwin and ubuntu07:03
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daddiusbut when i say something like export display=$ssh_connection:0.007:03
daddiusdoesn't wokr07:03
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ic56daddius: display should be uppercase07:04
daddiussorry i install ubuntu on a 710m laptop and i got big hands07:04
r3dickcrimsun,  It boots to the login but the keyboard and mouse are dead, like no interrupts are being generated.  I am guessing between the 386 which does not have the i8042 error and the keyboard mouse work and the 686 which displays error and keyboard is dead is an indication to someone who know about the kernel might point me to how to figure out whats wrong07:04
skplcan someone tell me why when i re-install ubuntu previous installations show up on my grub boot menu?07:04
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daddiusic56, yes i didn't want to be disrespectful in irc07:04
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mrgenixuslooking for a way to configure alsa for ac '97 sound  (i810 flavor) on a debina-based liveCD (gnome 2.12-live) the card is recognized and identified by lspci, but alsamizer returns 'function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such file or directory' and while the gentoo manual indicates thi can be correcte by running alsaconf this appears to be a gentoo-only tool, since I can't find it on this CD07:04
daddiusi am woundering if there is someting blocking my accesss... or is it my .ssh directory07:05
tapoxHi everyone, I'm being annoyed by a usability quirk that Ubuntu has, and I'm wondering if I should file a bug for it.07:05
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tapox*It's just so small, I'm not sure if filing a report is worth it.07:05
daddiusthe only thing i have against it07:06
arrickubotu tell tapox about fixres07:06
daddiusis the wireless part07:06
tapoxOh, nevermind, it was my pwn problem.07:06
Madpilottapox, what's the bug?07:06
daddiusi didn't know wha network i was on07:06
daddiusbut i fix with some wireless radar program and all is fine07:06
skplcan someone tell me why when i re-install ubuntu previous installations show up on my grub boot menu?07:06
sethkdaddius, I don't know, but I have password-less login from ubunto to fedora, to slackware, to other ubuntu of course07:06
RobyXAnyone know where I can find a download for  sun-j2re1.5 everything is down.07:06
sethkdaddius, and logging into ubuntu from slackware and fedora and cygwin07:06
arrickskpl, cause you didnt delet the original partition07:06
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_jasonubotu: tell RobyX about javadebs07:07
sethkRobyX, java.sun.com07:07
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Iceman_Anyone know a place to get Nextstep or Openstep ... Operating systems ?07:07
daddiussethk, i can login fine.. the thing is I would like to fire up emacs..07:07
daddiussethk, I really need to work on getting a passwdless access07:07
skplarrick, yes i did. and they no longer show up in the ubuntu partitioner07:07
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arrickskpl, are you dual booting?07:08
N2DIYsethk, I guess it worked? Or Flower would have been back by now?07:08
tapoxMadpilot: I wanted some more screen space, and so I made the Ubuntu panel act somewhat like Windows'. However, whenever I aim blindly by moving the mouse to the bottom left corner and click, the Ubuntu logo's hit radius is so small that I need to focus my attention on it.07:08
sethkN2DIY, hope so07:08
sethkdaddius, are you using ssh with -X ?07:08
skplarrick, yes07:08
N2DIYsethk, Roger roger.07:08
Madpilottapox, use the multiple desktop feature - the four grey boxes in the lower-right corner - for more space07:09
arrickskpl, you need to rewrite the grub cause with dual boot, it only adds the new grub to it07:09
mpg123i need help pls07:09
daddiussethk, yes ssh -X07:09
daddiuslet me try again07:09
sethkdaddius, I run emacs on all my boxes07:09
pip_anyone who uses mono ?07:09
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obaketenshiHi, all. I have an iBook G3, and recently installed Breezy. I can't get it to sleep properly - or rather, it sleeps,l but it won't wake up. Anyone have any suggestions?07:09
sethkdaddius, you must have a configuration parameter not quite right07:09
pip_I need help07:09
dabaRpip_: for what?07:09
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clichepip_, is mono still alive?07:09
mpg123any one knows why mpg123 dies when run under cron?07:09
obaketenshiI'm not sure if I need to patch he kernel or not07:09
ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.07:09
tapoxMadpilot: I'd just like more room for a single web browser window. It isn't an issue of many windows open at once.07:09
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ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.07:09
daddiussethk, i am thinking it must be that07:10
pip_cliche, yes07:10
daddiusi have a debian box here i should try it07:10
N2DIYsethk, but now she/he needs to install the command in /etc/modules, no?07:10
pip_cliche, mono is a project ,do you know ?07:10
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tapoxMadpilot: Is there any way to bind the super key to open the GNOME main menu?07:10
clichepip_, only in the ms?07:10
sethkN2DIY, yes, I'm sure07:10
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pip_dabaR, Do you use mono ?07:10
no_no_nookay dumb question... how do i use a floppy disk?07:10
ic56mpg123: what command line are you using?07:10
clichepip_, ha ha ha ha07:10
dabaRfor what?07:10
mpg123anyone have any idea why mpg123 dies when runned under cron?07:10
pip_cliche, no,it is for many platforms07:10
no_no_noim trying to do : ./install.s07:11
mpg123mpg123 -z --list playlist07:11
dabaRno_no_no: you put it in, right? Maybe you will have to mount it:-/07:11
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NafaiIs there a place other than the Language Selector in System -> Administration where the language choice is set?07:11
pip_cliche, can you help me ? if you use mono07:11
mpg123it runs on bash though07:11
holy_cowno_no_no, put the floppy in, select places/computer07:11
no_no_noand it says : mknod : 'dev... permission denied07:11
Madpilottapox, I think there is, but I've never done it myself07:11
dabaRNafai: login screen07:11
mpg123ive put it also in a script....07:11
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clichepip_, I am waiting for the FREE mono07:11
dabaRmpg123: nohup?07:11
mpg123and it runs... but when the script is runned under cron.. it dies though07:11
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ic56mpg123: how did you setup cron to run the command?07:11
pip_cliche, it is free07:11
no_no_nooh nevermind.. sudo07:11
tapoxMadpilot: Okay, thanks anyway.07:11
mrgenixusis there a support chan for the gnome 2.12 live?07:11
N2DIYSimpleFlower, Hello, how'd did it work out?07:11
holy_cowno_no_no, that script is trying to create a node in /dev ... why are you running that? what will it accomplish?07:11
clichepip_, free beer != freedom07:11
mpg123* * * * * username mpg123 -z --list playlist &07:12
no_no_noits installing tomsrtbt07:12
Madpilottapox, so far, I've just put up with having a totally useless key on my keyboard... :P07:12
no_no_noonto a floppy07:12
mpg123and the $path is good07:12
pip_cliche, I have downloaded mono from its offical webpage ,but I dont knwo how to install it07:12
tapoxno_no_no: Just go into Computer and click on floppy drive. It should mount automatically.07:12
dabaRcliche: stop that.07:12
Madpilotpip_, mono is available in ubuntu's repos07:12
pip_cliche,maybe you are right07:12
clichedabaR, stop what?07:12
dabaRpip_: do you ever use synaptic to install?07:12
no_no_noit wont mount.. i dunno why07:12
slavikso, who knows how to install a package along size another package?07:12
mpg123my logs says it runs mpg123 and starts streaming... then it dies07:12
no_no_nobut itll format07:12
holy_cowno_no_no, what? it should just write to floppy, i think somethings messed up.  no need for priviledge escelation07:12
dabaRmpg123: nohup, already.07:12
clichedabaR, should I disapear like the reporter?07:12
dabaRmpg123: nohup command & stays running.07:12
ic56mpg123: so you put this line in a file and you said crontab <file> ?07:12
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daddiuscliche, did it again07:13
mpg123dabaR: yup. ive used nohup also07:13
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no_no_noi think this is how edubuntu sets up this acct07:13
holy_cowno_no_no, are you sure you have an image to write to a floppy? thats what tombrt usually comes in, use something else to write image to floppy07:13
daddiusunable to set07:13
no_no_noif i sudo it works07:13
dabaRcliche: no.07:13
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pip_dabaR, I have downloaded a new version mono which is 1.1.15,but in synaptic there is a 1.1.8,so ...07:13
mpg123yup... then i change it to a bash script.. and it dies still07:13
holy_cowno_no_no, why are you using tombsrta anyway? that sounds weird07:13
daddiusin a default install would it have some sort of firewall setup in ubuntu?07:13
SimplyFlowersethk:  i'm back.  i got the message "no such file or directory."  tried the modprobe de4x5 and it didn't do anything... what now?07:13
mpg123but if i run the bash script it work though07:13
pip_Madpilot, do you use it ?07:13
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slavikdaddius: firewall is in the kerne;07:13
ic56mpg123: when running things from cron, neither nohup, nor backgrounding via `&' are necessary -- cron does these for you.07:13
Madpilotpip_, I run a couple of Mono apps - Muine, mostly07:13
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sethkSimplyFlower, that's odd.  you are running with the ubuntu install kernel?07:14
daddiusslavik, could that be it?07:14
no_no_noim following these instructions : https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/BootingClientsWithoutPxe07:14
slavikdaddius: look into firestart (gui for that kernel)07:14
no_no_nowhat's dd?07:14
mpg123ok. but my log says... it starts mpg123 and tries to play a file... then it dies..07:14
sethkSimplyFlower, because I checked, and it's on all three of my ubuntu boxes07:14
mpg123is there a possible problem with devices?07:14
dabaRno_no_no: man dd07:14
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obaketenshiAnyone knowlegable about G3 iBooks and their associated sleep bug?07:14
pip_Madpilot, how do you find it |?07:14
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick07:14
mpg123im totaly lost...07:14
SimplyFlowersethk:  i installed breezy using the install cd i made from the install iso.  it worked fine on my other computer07:14
sethkno_no_no, man dd     a copy program that works at a very low level07:14
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dabaRno_no_no: even a drive is a file.07:15
holy_cowno_no_no, ah so whats the problem? just follow th einstructions ... they seem correct.  don't forget sudo07:15
tapoxQuestion 2: I installed a program called Gajim, a jabber IM client. Whenever I login to GNOME, it appears, yet it isn't listed in the things to launch when my session is started. How is this launching?07:15
sethkSimplyFlower, it works fine on this computer also.  the question is why you don't have that module07:15
Madpilotpip_, if you just want to run mono apps, try just installing muine - that'll pull down whatever it needs07:15
sethkSimplyFlower, you might need to reinstall the kernel.  You're sure you typed it as I wrote it?07:15
holy_cowyes and dd is already on your system for sure, if not install it with synaptic07:15
mpg123is there a probability that mpg123 could not access alsa or the devices needed to play?07:15
no_no_nohow are you supposed to know or learn all this?07:15
sethkSimplyFlower, it's the tuplip driver, which is a very common one07:15
N2DIYSimpleFlower, just run "sudo modprobe de4x5", I keep forgetting about Ubuntu's sudo user stuff!07:16
no_no_noi dont have a CS degree.. i write grants07:16
pip_Madpilot, I want develop app with mono ,in fact I want to use C#07:16
sethkno_no_no, you are supposed to learn how to look things up07:16
holy_cowno_no_no, the same way any kid learns anyone, just osmosis07:16
sethkno_no_no, for what do you need dd, anyway?07:16
holy_cowno_no_no, you are mistaken about how much you need to know, it seems overwhelming at first07:16
dabaRsethk: he posted a link to his instructions.07:16
arrickno_no_no, you give me a grant and I'll teach yo uhow to use your computer with ubuntu07:16
SimplyFlowersethk:  i typed:  find .-name '*de4x5*' -print07:16
ic56no_no_no: you can learn by reading the manual.  Start with `man intro'07:16
holy_cowno_no_no, you don't need to knkow too much more than on windows, its just that everyone has 15 years of training on win07:16
no_no_nowhat's man?07:16
Madpilotpip_, hmm, check Synaptic - the developing stuff for mono/C# is all there, but I don't program so I'm not sure what exactly to look for07:16
dabaRholy_cow: haha07:16
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mpg123can i have a private chat with anyone.. regarding mg mpg123 problem?07:16
Madpilotno_no_no, manual files07:17
daddiuscan't scan my own port07:17
dabaRno_no_no: command in a terminal.07:17
sethkSimplyFlower, the current directory had to be /lib/modules.   try find /lib/modules -name '*de4x5*' -print07:17
holy_cowno_no_no, but you do need to know a little bit more than on windows to not remain a tard and do stupid things like install spyware deliberately07:17
arrickno_no_no, it pulls up the manual for the program you are trying to use07:17
no_no_noahh kewl thanks07:17
clicheinfo > man07:17
dabaRcliche: pah07:17
no_no_noim trying to set up 7 computers for kids to use in a lab07:17
slavikholy_cow: how much spyware is written for *nix?07:17
pip_Madpilot, thanks07:17
no_no_nothey were windows xp home... and it was a mess to keep them up to date07:17
sethkno_no_no, give that URL again.  I can't imagine why you would need dd07:17
clichehowto > readme > info > man07:17
dabaRno_no_no: did you see there is an edubuntu installation CD?07:18
holy_cowslavik, i just saw a piece of firefox extension that looked like spyware actually07:18
holy_cowi wish i  had a link07:18
no_no_nothis tech guy wanted to install a pirarted version of windows terminal server07:18
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no_no_noits done with the floppy07:18
slavikholy_cow: but that is for firefox, not for *nix :P07:18
clichethe source > howtos07:18
N2DIYholy_cow, who cares, setup tripwire, and you'll catch em.07:18
no_no_noi downloaded the edubuntu cd to install it for the SERVER07:18
holy_cowcross platform ... most windows spyware is trickery surrounding free software, people install it willingly. it will come here too07:18
dabaRcliche: stop that.07:18
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no_no_nobut the clients i need to use a floppy not all have CD07:18
sethkno_no_no, you want to boot diskless workstations using 10 year old hardware?07:18
no_no_no7 years old..yah07:19
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arrickhahahahahahha :^(07:19
SimplyFlowersethk:  i did change directories to /lib/modules before typing find, but will try again... brb07:19
sethkno_no_no, that is for machines that have no disk at all07:19
no_no_nothey have hard disks.07:19
no_no_noand floppy07:19
sethkSimplyFlower, double check, because as I said it is there on all my machines and none of them even have a card of that type07:19
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sethkno_no_no, then those instructions are totally irrelevant07:19
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arrickno_no_no, are these clients in the dumpster?07:19
no_no_nosomeone else said they make sense..they seem fine to me07:20
no_no_noclient in the dumpster?07:20
sethkno_no_no, pxe is a protocol for booting diskless workstations from a network server07:20
no_no_nono theyre P4 1.4 GHz with 256 MB07:20
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no_no_nothey dont have PXE07:20
holy_cow7 yaer old systems are still quite powrfull07:20
sethkno_no_no, are you trying to do a network install, perhaps?07:20
holy_cowi have a whole bunch of 1ghz machines, throw enough ram into them and they are fine07:20
no_no_noi know what im trying to do.07:20
dabaRsethk. no_no_no: heh07:20
arrickno_no_no, you know a cd rom doesnt run very much, and you can move it from pc to pc right?07:20
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no_no_noits keeping them all administered thats the problem07:21
dabaRarrick: nice07:21
sethkno_no_no, the link you posted is about network booting07:21
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sethkno_no_no, if you don't want to do network booting, you don't need to understand those instructions07:21
SimplyFlowersethk:  found it this time.  now what?07:21
holy_cowits clear we need some sort of gui with step 1, 2, 3 instructions for things like this07:22
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no_no_nookay.. if thats not what i want to do then tell me what its called?07:22
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sethkSimplyFlower, did you try the modprobe command?07:22
holy_cowno_no_no, what re you trying to do exactly? i'm confused now07:22
no_no_noi have 7 lab computers07:22
no_no_noi want kids to be able to sign in with their name07:22
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SimplyFlowersethk:  i did but will try again... brb07:22
arrickno_no_no, I wasnt ehre when you posted your question, exactly what are you trying to accomplish?07:22
no_no_noand have  a place for their files no matter which computer they are on07:22
no_no_noand it looks the same wherever07:22
sethkSimplyFlower, you may have to use insmod with the full file name  (the name you found with the find command)07:23
N2DIYSimpleFlower, you found the module? Then do "modprobe module name".07:23
sethkno_no_no, you just need NFS07:23
holy_cowi think he is trying to run thinclients, which makes the most sense actually07:23
no_no_nowhats the difference between LTPS and NFS and where's a guide on how to do that07:23
holy_cowi wouldn't install anything locally07:23
holy_cownfs is basically a full install with your /home mounted over network07:24
ubotuI heard nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.07:24
holy_cowltsp is a thinclient ... all the software is on the server, the client machine boots everything over the network, like you seem to be trying to setup07:24
no_no_nothat means i only have to maintain one machine?07:24
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no_no_nothen thats what i want!07:25
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no_no_noi dont care about the computers its the time spent keeping them in working order07:25
ubotuI heard ltsp is the Linux Terminal Server Project - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto (for Breezy), https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTSPHowTo (pre Breezy).  See also http://www.ltsp.org/07:25
slavikok, sethk want to help me do a good thing?07:25
no_no_noi have those up.. thanks :)07:25
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N2DIYWhat's ubotu mean?07:25
slavikN2DIY: nothing actually07:25
no_no_nois there someway to setup a default desktop and have each kids account start out like that?07:25
arrickPeople Freedom, see www.ubuntu.com07:26
slavikarrick: he meant ubotu, not ubuntu :P07:26
holy_cowno_no_no, i've not setup thinclients my self so i cant help you, closest i did something like that was setting up remote access to xsessions via nomachine.com software07:26
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arrickN2DIY, ubotu is a bot, that gives out info, sorry, been up too long07:26
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ubotuJust ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.07:27
mpeg123any idea about mpg123 running on background?07:27
arrickslavik, yeah i cought that as my eyes started watering07:27
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slavikarrick: want to do a good thing?07:27
arrickIm working on a @#$$#^* windows xp box for a client right now07:28
arrickslavik, whats that?07:28
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holy_cowno_no_no, plug away at it, the biggest problem is just having the network card driver for your thinclients available on the bootdisk ... which is what you are trying to do, those instructions look right to me07:28
holy_cowthe rest is just configuring a bit the network settings and off you go07:28
slavikarrick: build anjuta 2.0.1 with all 3 plugins and make sure that it doesn'toverwrite anjuta 1.2... :D07:28
slavikand give me the deb07:28
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mpeg123can anyone help me pls?07:29
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no_no_nothis place lets you put the driver on a floppy after you format the HD with the other tool07:29
arrickslavik, write a bot for it, they are cool07:29
mpeg123slavik, ?07:29
holy_cowcool, i've not heard of that before07:29
slavik!tell mpeg123 about mpg12307:29
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N2DIYmpeg123, no, we can't, you have to ask a question first. If you already did, it has scrolled off my screen, sorry.07:30
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arrickmpeg123, just ask your question, if someone know they will answer07:30
Double_Danyone: i'm having some trouble getting the right resolution options for my monitor.  i know my monitor will support 1600x1200, but can't seem to get that option to show up.  any ideas?07:30
ubotuit has been said that fixres is Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:30
Double_Dthanks, arrick.07:30
arricknp :6)07:31
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N2DIYBouble_D, go to/system/preferences/screen resolution, and play there.07:31
mpeg123my problem is that i have this script that i put on cron07:32
mpeg123it should run mpg123....07:32
arrickhey slavik you want to setup a recoding wtudio box for me, while i do all my projects I have here?07:32
SimplyFlowersethk:  i'm back.  tried several times but got the same message:  FATAL: Module de4x5.ko not found.  even tried including the directory and changed into the directory.  now what?07:32
arrickstudio eve07:32
mpeg123it runs the script but dies when it starts streaming an mp3 file07:32
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arrickNight guys07:34
N2DIYSimpleFlower, loose the .ko on the command, or try .o If that doesn't work try using "insmod" and then the module name.07:34
sethkSimplyFlower, instead, do   insmod /full/path/to/de4x5.ko07:34
Double_DN2DIY: way ahead of ya on that one.07:34
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SimplyFlowerN2DIY and sethk:  will try.... brb07:35
nickrudarrick, we're all still here, just watching you :)07:35
Double_DN2DIY: only have three options there and not the ones I want.  i've put the horiz and vert sync that's correct for my monitor into the xorg.conf file and restarted X, but says the frequency is out of range.07:35
mpeg123does anyone have any idea?07:35
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ic56mpg123: you must give us more details.07:36
Double_Danyone: when i run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and i get to the part to select resolutions, what's the actual key to press to select/deselect a resolution?07:36
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N2DIYBouble_D, Ok, try Ctrl+Alt+(+or-), and see if that works for you?07:37
starkeshey, would anyone out there know why azureus would report that my connection is firewalled and not work whatsoever, but bittornado seems to work fine?07:37
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Double_DN2DIY: aso, thanks.  i'm gonna get to a VT quick and try that.  brb (hopefully in 1600x1200).07:37
starkesalso, with identical settings on my windows partition, azureus works fine. same version and everything.07:37
holy_cowpoor guy googled the wrong refresh rates for his moni07:38
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N2DIYholy_cow, I hope not, that is a good way to burn down your house!07:39
skplis there any way to remove the words from my gnome menu, so that there is just the ubuntu logo?07:40
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nickrudskpl, not without hacking the applet code probably07:41
holy_cowN2DIY, well, x does the whatever calculations automatically now (i guess for quite a few years now), it's been a while since one was able to start a fire that way :)07:41
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aaron__heya... what is ./07:42
N2DIYholy_cow, this is good.07:42
nickrudholy_cow, I was trying to visualze my monitor exploding, but I just couldn't07:42
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ic56aaron__: ./ is the current directory07:42
aaron__how do I copy a file to a floppy in terminal?07:43
nickrudskpl, the closest I've come to that is changing thye logo next to the text07:43
aaron__or where do i look to get help on that?07:43
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aaron__i tried "help" but dunno which command it is07:43
holy_cowaaron__, cp /some/file /media/floppy07:44
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nickrudaaron__, that is a way of saying, 'the current directory'07:44
Double_DN2DIY: didn't work.  Ctrl+Alt+(+/-) still didn't select or deselect the options.07:44
holy_cowDouble_D, i strongly urge you to regoogle  your refresh rates07:45
holy_cowthat is all you got wrong07:45
holy_cowget them right, re\start x, and you will have the available res for that setting in system/settings/resolution or whatever07:45
nickrudaaron__, often used to make sure that the command you are running is using command in the current directory. Why are you asking?07:45
aaron__can i drag and drop in the terminal?07:45
N2DIYBouble_D, did the screen image change?07:45
holy_cowaaron__, no but you can copy paste07:46
aaron__im trying to copy a file to a floppy and dont have permissions in the gui so im sudoing07:46
holy_cowhow can you not have permission in gnome?  you mean when you go to places/ computer / floppy ... you can't open floppy?07:46
aaron__it wont mount.07:46
holy_cowtry anothe floppy maybe? just curious07:46
aaron__sorry - i was no_no_no07:47
aaron__the wifi cut out..07:47
Double_DN2DIY: no.  i just regoogled the refresh rates, per holy_cow, and get the same numbers but with decimals after (i.e. 30.0 instead of 30).  would that make a difference?07:47
Double_Di'll give it a shot with the decimals and see if that works.07:47
holy_cowDouble_D, nope.07:47
ic56aaron: what is the error message when you are unable to mount the floppy?07:47
holy_cowaaron__, that doesn't sound right, try another floppy, i've seen that in some weird situations07:48
aaron__places : computer: FLOPPY DRIVE07:48
aaron__this is the second one07:48
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holy_cowsame error?07:48
N2DIYBouble_D, so nothing got bigger or smaller? Weird, Ubuntu isn't playing with your video controller.07:48
aaron__when i did sudo stuff in the terminal it worked fine before on the other one07:48
aaron__unable to moutn the volume07:48
aaron__given UDI is not mountable07:48
holy_cowwell yes because sudo runs the command as root, root has power to do anything07:48
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nickrudaaron__, I haven't used a floppy disk in at least a year, I've forotten how :)07:49
aaron__this is in edubuntu.07:49
holy_cowaaron__, lets change the perms on the floppy mount07:49
aaron__its prob set up the permissions weird.07:49
mpeg123hi pips... how can i run a script in cron... where it will fool the script that it runs under a terminal07:49
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mpeg123it should fool itself that its running under a terminal?07:49
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ic56aaron__: are you sure the floppy is formatted?07:49
RugHowdy all07:49
aaron__owner is ROOT and everything is greyed out in gnome.07:49
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aaron__yah i can format it fine with floppy format07:50
holy_cowaaron__, well of course, you aren't running as root,you logged in as another user07:50
SimplyFlowersethk and N2DIY:  i'm back.  tried the insmod /fullpath/de4x5.ko got the following error: insmod: error inserting '/fullpath/de4x5.ko: -1 File exists.  tried the modprobe without ko didn't help.  i am noticing when i type the full path  for modprobe the terminal changes my dashes (-) to underscore (_).  doesn't happen with insmod.07:50
holy_cowthats because floppy format asks for password, which means it runs as root07:50
aaron__yah :)07:50
N2DIYOh no, another Bug in the system! Hi bug. :)07:50
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RugHow are the other insomniacs doing tonight?07:50
nickrudis floppy that bad these days :)07:50
RugN2DIY: I'm good thanks07:50
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aaron__you dont know how long i had to dig to find one of these.07:51
Rugnickrud: everybody wants floppies to go away07:51
holy_cowlol too much trouble to bother with07:51
aaron__they die if you look at them.07:51
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Rugwell it seems all the email I get tries to help with that07:51
nickrudI copied a few files from my last floppies to a cd, Rug07:51
Double_Dholy_cow, N2DIY: that got it.  stupid significant digits.... thanks a million.07:52
holy_cowaaron__, system don't have cd's? well i guess you want student to  be able to use those ...07:52
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holy_cowDouble_D, weird, but okay, cool that it works07:52
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nickrudOllie Ollie In Free, no one needs to understand floppies :)07:52
holy_cowwe need some additional gui stuff to the resolution picker to let people select monitor make and model like on suse07:53
N2DIYSimpleFlower, forget the path, just do "sudo modprobe module name" or insmode instead of modprobe. Linux can be funny with path names.07:53
Rugyeah that would be nice07:53
nickrudholy_cow, yes07:53
nickrudI hope that get's stolen for eft07:53
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shekhar__can someone help me install acroread plugin on firefox 1.5 on dapper?07:54
fogoshi... someone how i can put on a direct access from desktop the next command: "cd /file/folder" then put "sudo ./load" its for load a driver that is on that folder07:54
holy_cowshekhar__, don't do that it's evil07:54
holy_cowshekhar__, instead, install evince07:54
holy_cowterrific pdf reader07:54
Rugshekhar__: the Dapper support channel is:  #ubuntu+107:54
SimplyFlowerN2DIY:  i tried but nothing happens.  it just gives me the prompt again.07:54
RugEvince is awesome07:55
holy_cowyou want to always read pdf docs in a standalone app, pdf is a hell of a document to shove into a web browser via plugin07:55
xerophytecan i able to split the tar archive file into small parts ?? i have huge folder which has 12G of data07:55
fogossomeone have a inspiron 6400 on ubuntu?07:55
aaron__okay.. trying to copy to a floppy here07:55
aaron__ive read cp --help07:55
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holy_cowaaron__, what you need is dd07:55
shekhar__holy_cow:  thanks for your help07:56
shekhar__holy_cow:  if what i am trying to do is evil, then most of the world is evil07:56
heroinhi i messed up my drivers and now i cant see anything? can i startup a terminal before gnome starts or something?07:56
holy_cowaaron__, what you would do is sudo dd /dev/whatever /pathe/someimagefilename07:56
shekhar__holy_cow:  that's not exactly the ubuntu spirit methinks07:56
holy_cowaaron__, then you would just dd it out to the flopp with sudo dd /file /device07:56
aaron__this is what im typing : cp eb-5.4.2-eepro100.zhd /media/floppy ? but i know thats not right07:56
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Rugheroin: if you hit Ctrl + alt + F1 that will give you a terminal to login with07:56
holy_cowshekhar__, just do it the right way and stop acting like a windows dip07:57
nickrudaaron__, you really need this floppy back then07:57
heroinbut after gnome starts everythng is fubar07:57
holy_cowshekhar__, just because windows users think it is fine to stuff every application into a browser doesn't mean you should07:57
shekhar__holy_cow:  i have never used windows in my life07:57
Rugheroin: did you try Crtl + Alt + F1 ?07:57
heroini will when i get out of bed07:57
holy_cowshekhar__, in that case you are aware of the principle of using the right tool for the right job07:57
RugFFS then why ask for help?07:57
holy_cowlet a browser render html, use a pdf reader to render pdf07:57
N2DIYSimpleFlower, nothing happend, and a new prompt? This is good! Now try "sudo ifup eth0"07:57
nickrudaaron__, we make fun of floppies, only because I had to use them. Whart do you need to do?07:58
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holy_cowkeep your life simple is all my advice means. beyond that, suit your self.07:58
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heroinkeep life simple get linux :( not really07:58
lrojaswhere can i find the iso for the dapper version of ubuntu?07:58
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diomedesthis having to use sudo all the time is getting annoying07:58
heroinIrojas u can just upgrade a breezy install07:58
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SimplyFlowerN2DIY:  ok... brb07:58
Nafaidiomedes: If you want to have a root prompt, just do sudo su -07:59
nickrudheroin, no, it's keep life (or at least this part of it) under control: use linux07:59
holy_cowheroin, linux is simple, but simplicity depends on your perspective.  people conveniently forget how many years they have spent on either mac or windows and think picking up a new os will take 5 minutes07:59
holy_cowit just isn't so07:59
Rugif simple = virus+adware+spyware=0 the Linux is simple07:59
monsterbHow do switch to superuser in Nautilus?07:59
holy_cowthen again, its not that hard either, but it is simple07:59
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kurimawguys... what's nautilus? is it a software where i can access?07:59
heroinRug but linux+games+drivers=not simple07:59
RugUse the right tool for the job08:00
carthikmonsterb, gksudo nautilus .08:00
holy_cowmonsterb, well you don't switch to super user, you start nautilus with super user perms as in: sudo nautilus if you need to08:00
carthikkurimaw, nautilus is the file manager in Ubuntu/GNOME - the equiv of Windows explorer, so to speak08:00
RugThere are LOTS of Linux native games, several are VERY fun too.08:00
holy_cowdiomedes, one says that at first coming from debian maybe, but it is an excellent technique for keeping your self from doing stupid things via carelessness08:01
aaron__ok im ready to tear it up.. i cant copy this freaking thing to the floppy because i dont know the syntax of a command line08:01
RugIf you are crying because you can't get FarCry to work, well Linux is not windows08:01
aaron__cant i shift click and run as root or something ?08:01
holy_cowaaron__, i gave you the basic idea ... where are you stuck?08:01
carthikaaron__, shift click what?08:01
monsterbcarthik, holy_cow - ok thanks - I was in the middle of copying files - i was hoping i could switch to superuser without restarting Natilus.08:01
aaron__sudo cp filename /dev/ ? then what?08:02
diomedesi was just never a fan of sudo08:02
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SimplyFlowerN2DIY:  i'm back.  got the following: Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth008:02
carthikaaron__, use "sudo" before the command to complete the action as a superuser, without permissions.08:02
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holy_cowmonsterb, no and when you start nautilus with superuser privileges, anything it copies will have those priviledges too08:02
Rugdiomedes: I use su all the time.  I never use sudo.08:02
carthikaaron__, /dev/fd0 is usually the floppy drive08:02
aaron__whats the floppy called? c: is hda right?08:02
holy_cowaaron__, no dude08:02
carthikaaron__, well, C is not always hda08:02
nickrudaaron__, two things08:02
holy_cowaaron__, dd /dev/devicename /path/to/file/image/to/create08:02
carthikaaron__, type $mount08:03
nickrudone, we're all venting08:03
neirasif you want a root prompt, "sudo -s"08:03
holy_cowaaron__, then dd /path/to/image /dev/devicename08:03
carthikaaron__, that will tell you all the mounted filesystems08:03
baconbaconlol everybodys on aaron08:03
holy_cowis it /dev/floppy on ubuntu? i forget i never use that08:03
nickrudtwo, you'll mount your floppy in the filesystem, and copy your files to that place08:03
aaron__lemme try that08:03
N2DIYSimpleFlower, ignoring it? So it knows it is there, but it won't play with it, interesting. I'm at a loss.08:03
neirasdd if=/path/to/image of=/path/to/device08:03
monsterbholy_cow - once a file is in /home - will i have all priviledges without superuser?08:04
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nickrudaaron__, sudo mount /dev/fdo /mnt08:04
holy_cowmonsterb, it depends on how you copied it there.  if you copy it as the user, then it gets user perms, if you copy it as any other user it gets that users ownership.08:04
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N2DIYSimpleFlower, maybe you can try some modules that are in the same family? Google search for them?